Whatever Podcast - ØF VlRGlN?! 18 With A BBL?! Methany?! Feminists vs. Andrew! Gigachad! E-GIRLS!

Jan. 27, 2025 - Whatever Podcast

07:30:35

ØF VlRGlN?! 18 With A BBL?! Methany?! Feminists vs. Andrew! Gigachad! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #223

Dating Talk is LIVE on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube.com/whatever
[Read More]

Large

Audio Only |

Scroll

Time	Text
	Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape.
	I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
	We're coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California, every Sunday and Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
	A few quick announcements.
	This podcast is viewer-supported, heavy YouTube demonetization.
	So please consider donating through Streamlabs instead of super chatting as YouTube takes a brutal 30% cut.
	Streamlabs.com/slash/whatever link is in the description.
	We do prioritize messages that are made via Streamlabs.
	To read a message is $100 and up.
	If you want to interact nearly instantly with us and weigh in on the conversation, consider sending a TTS text-to-speech message.
	$200 an up triggers TTS.
	TTS is via Streamlabs only.
	We have a slight moderation delay, but we try to get those TTSs in within like a minute or so.
	You can mute a microphone, pop a ball of champagne, and if you're a real G for one Ethereum, we will pop a bottle of Crystal, which is like, I think, I don't know, $400, $400, I think.
	See the description for all details.
	Now, if you want to just tip, just the tip, if you want 100% of your contribution to go towards us, no platform fees, no cut, you can do this via Venmo or Cash App.
	So there it's at whatever pod on both.
	And if you can tab over to the Cash App, whatever pod on both, link is in the description.
	I'll give you guys a shout out to during the stream.
	We have channel memberships to become a member.
	You can hit that join button.
	Tier one is just $5 a month.
	Thank you guys so much for all those.
	Also, live on Twitch right now.
	Pull up another tab.
	Go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow in the Prime sub if you guys have one.
	Guys, can you get us to 97,000 followers on Twitch before the end of the stream?
	We just need about 200 more.
	That's twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	If you have Amazon Prime, you can link it to your Twitch quick for easy way.
	To support the show every single month, we got merch shop.whatever.com.
	I got a new, I got scroll up to the big labia matter one.
	There's a little new merch.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Big labia matter.
	All right, get that one.
	Follow us on Instagram at whatever.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM us at whatever.
	Follow me on Instagram, BD underscore Atlas.
	Check out my nonprofit movement, Big Labia Matter, or BLM for short.
	10,000 labia plasties place a year in the USA.
	Total tragedy.
	Really, the pressing issue of our time.
	If you can't catch the full shows, we have Eclipse channel.
	Link is in the description.
	There it is.
	We have a Discord.
	Discord.
	Oh, actually, I don't know if it's probably on the right tab.
	Can you pull up before you pull it up, maybe the BTS tab?
	Oh, perfect.
	Discord.gg/slash whatever.
	We post behind the scenes, hate mail, a bunch of other cool stuff.
	We've got a good community over there.
	So yeah, be sure to check it out.
	And disclaimer, the views expressed by the guests do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever channel.
	With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, location, occupation, and education.
	Go ahead.
	My name is Skye.
	I live in Washington State currently.
	I am 20 years old and I do only fans for work.
	All right.
	Any college or anything?
	No, I graduated high school.
	Okay.
	City college or no.
	Okay.
	What do you do on OF?
	Just solo content.
	No BG content.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Sophia Summers.
	I'm 18 years old.
	I'm from Oregon and I am an OF model and work at Walmart.
	All right.
	And any college or anything?
	No, I just graduated high school.
	Okay, just.
	And when did you turn 18?
	November.
	I graduated early.
	Oh, okay.
	Wait, so when did you start your OF?
	Right when I turned 18.
	Like the day of?
	The month, yeah.
	When, no, like a month ago, yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	So, well, you turned 18 in November.
	And so you started in December.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'm going to turn a month in like the 28th.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	My name's Abigail Wetz, and I'm 18, and I'm from Skibity, Ohio.
	And for work?
	I do social media.
	Okay.
	Education?
	Anything?
	Like college or anything?
	No, high school.
	Okay.
	Could you just scoot the microphone a little bit to the edge of the table?
	And you do social media.
	Yeah.
	What kind?
	What do you do?
	All sorts.
	YouTube, TikTok.
	Only thing.
	Instagram.
	Maybe.
	Maybe.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Hello.
	I am Peaches.
	I am 29.
	I am from San Diego.
	I work in critical care and I'm working on my master's in psychiatry right now and I have an unsuccessful OnlyFans.
	So check that out.
	Unsuccessful.
	How long have you been doing that?
	I've had it for about a year.
	And I have maybe 10 fans.
	10 fans.
	But they're very quality and reliable.
	How much have you made?
	I don't know because I've actually made more doing like private dominatrix like fetish sessions.
	That's more my bread and butter, but with school, I don't have any questions.
	How long have you been doing that?
	Two years?
	Maybe three years?
	Two years.
	How long have you been?
	You said you're a critical care nurse.
	How long have you been doing that?
	Three years.
	And then I did one year in progressive care.
	Okay.
	So they're moving.
	You're an RN, right?
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Scarlett Hampton.
	I'm 24.
	I'm from Wisconsin, like really normal, like small town Wisconsin.
	Shano, it's called.
	And then occupation, I do for porn.
	I do porn for three years now.
	It didn't start out like that way, but that's how it is.
	But it's not always to be that way.
	I like it, but I'm working on other things too.
	Any college?
	Yeah, I went to UW-Madison for three years.
	And then I withdrew during the COVID pandemic.
	All right.
	What were you studying?
	I was studying environmental studies, economics, and theater.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	What about you?
	What's up, everyone?
	My name is Bella Angelina, and I am a streamer on TikTok.
	I sell designer bags on a TikTok shop.
	Okay, how old are you?
	I'm 27.
	All right.
	Where are you from?
	San Diego, California.
	All right.
	Any college or anything like that?
	Yes, I actually studied child development, but I mean, I like fast money, so I started hustling and became a casting director as well.
	For what?
	Casting director for music videos, productions, small projects.
	I see, got it.
	And no OF or anything like that?
	No OF.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Hello, everyone.
	My name is Eva.
	I am from Barcelona.
	I'm living in America from five years ago.
	And my occupation is to work in the ATM Machines, AT company, around Holt, LA.
	And I was studying for a lawyer, but life's taking me here.
	Age?
	33 years old.
	Okay.
	And you say you run all the ATM machines?
	Yes, I do.
	I have to put the money in every machine and the bands.
	So you work for a company in the middle of the market.
	Yes.
	Gotcha.
	And hang on.
	So do you repair the machines or do you just fill them with money?
	No, no, no.
	I just the money.
	Okay, so you work for an armor carrier?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And you're from Barcelona, Spain?
	Yes, I do.
	Did you go to college in Spain or Madrid?
	Madrid.
	You got your bachelor's or the equivalent?
	There is different.
	The ESO and high school is different.
	You finish the high school and after the university.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	My name's Adriana.
	I'm 22 and I'm a professional dancer, choreographer, and dance teacher.
	All right.
	Where are you from?
	I'm from Massachusetts and I live in LA now.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	And any college or anything like that?
	I graduated in May with my bachelor's in biology and psychology.
	Double major?
	Okay, got it.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Nina.
	I'm 28.
	I live in Miami and I work in occupational therapy.
	All right, cool.
	Any college?
	Yes, I went to college in New Jersey.
	I graduated in 2018.
	Bachelor's?
	Bachelor's.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Oh, sorry.
	And I missed this.
	Age?
	28.
	28.
	Got it.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Go ahead.
	My name is Brandon Clark.
	I'm a natural bodybuilder from Bozeman, Montana.
	I'm also an online fitness coach, and I own a couple other businesses.
	I am a college dropout as well.
	Did you say age?
	24 years old.
	24.
	And from Bozeman, Montana.
	RS.
	Middle of nowhere.
	Rock and roll.
	Rock and roll.
	Is this your first time in California?
	Yes, natural bodybuilder.
	Natural.
	What does that mean?
	That just means you don't do like steroids.
	Yep, no steroids, no PEDs, and I compete in a natural federation.
	Can we get like a double eye?
	It doesn't mean you're a vegan.
	Damn.
	Doesn't mean you're a vegan, right?
	I'm definitely not a vegan.
	Not a vegan.
	Not as for sure.
	All right.
	I'm Brian Atlas, 35 years old, over the hill, washed up, has been, YouTuber, podcast host.
	And then, Andrew, what about you?
	Yeah, my name is Andrew Wilson.
	I'm the host of The Crucible, it's a popular entertainment channel on YouTube.
	I'm a political analyst, political satirist, and I also engage in debates all over the world and have conversations all over the world with various people.
	I'm happy to be here tonight.
	Thank all of you for coming.
	All right.
	Also, I'm working on my father time beard.
	I hope you guys enjoy it.
	It's looking good.
	Looking good.
	Gray fluff going on on the edges.
	I'm pretty good.
	That's great.
	Looking good.
	All right.
	We're going to go around the table once more.
	What's everybody's current relationship status?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Go ahead.
	I am taking my current boyfriend.
	Me and him have been together for about a year and a half, almost two years.
	And I would say this is like around the same as my last relationship lengthwise.
	So I've had until it hits two years, I'll have a longer relationship than the last one.
	Okay, so you had a previous relationship that was about two years also.
	Okay, gotcha.
	And the last relationship, who broke up with who?
	It was kind of a mutual agreement.
	I had moved away states.
	So it was kind of no thank you to long distance.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm currently single.
	I've never dated anyone.
	Never had a talking stage situationship, actually.
	You've never dated anybody?
	Right.
	Have you been on a date?
	No.
	But you, so you're what?
	A virgin?
	Question mark?
	Yeah.
	No, yeah, I'm a virgin.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So I was wondering if you were asking me if I was a virgin.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, what do you say to people who find this maybe dubious given that you're involved in S-work, you have an OnlyFans posting like full nudity on there, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I just started.
	So, yeah, I mean.
	But like, you don't, it's the virgin to OF pipeline is typically not, you know, usually there's like promiscuity and then like OnlyFans.
	Well, it makes good money, so that's why I'm doing it.
	Okay.
	Well, one thing Brian's getting at is there have been an awful lot of women who have come on to various programs like this, including this one, and said that they are a virgin OnlyFans girl.
	And you can imagine that's quite the selling point for a woman who's on OnlyFans, right?
	They want to promote themselves as being a virgin.
	There's a fetishism.
	My membership is but word.
	Oh no.
	Happy New Year and welcome back, Brixon.
	I do not.
	Oh no.
	This is.
	This is.
	That was Donald Trump.
	He actually called in.
	I'm not sure why that's happening.
	I thought I fucking.
	I thought I ended it.
	Thank you, Grid One, though.
	Sorry, Andrew, did you want to finish the question?
	Yeah, I was just saying that it's, and then often they're exposed later as that not actually being accurate, right?
	So that's why the skepticism.
	Well, I'm not.
	I have a question for.
	Do you promote like on your OnlyFans that you're a virgin?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I do.
	It's not like I'm waiting for a marriage.
	I just haven't had a boyfriend or anything, so the opportunity hasn't come up.
	I'm not against it.
	All right.
	I have a question that might be completely off topic, but did anyone buy Trump coin?
	I did not.
	No.
	Where's your brain out, right?
	Well, his voice.
	And then I have ADHD.
	Sorry.
	Do you want to weigh in on the whole Colombian thing, how like Trump just BTFO'd the Colombian president?
	Do you want to weigh in on that too, right?
	Sorry.
	Like, you know, he, the Colombian president denied, so Trump deported some Colombians back to Colombia and they turned them down.
	They sent the plane back.
	And then Trump's like tariffs, denying visas.
	Do you want to, what are your thoughts on that?
	I'm just like scrolling on Twitter and I saw a bunch of meme coins.
	No, but I'm asking you about the Colombian deportation thing.
	I don't know much about that.
	What do you think, though?
	Like, I just laid out what happened.
	Or were you still thinking about Trump coin?
	I was just thinking about the coin itself.
	Oh, okay.
	Did you buy some?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, did you take like a big L on it?
	No, I actually made money.
	I got in pretty early.
	How much money?
	I mean, it's kind of tanked a little bit.
	Yeah, but I sold.
	You sold?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Do you want to tell us any other crypto-related things?
	No.
	Sorry.
	How's your Bitcoin doing?
	Is that did you buy Hot Tua coin?
	No, I did not.
	You should have gotten early on.
	I know.
	I know.
	So, okay.
	Are we back to this, I guess?
	Yeah, the whole virgin OF thing.
	Yeah, I just.
	I've never been on a date.
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Is there like an objection to her, like give is there an objection to her having an OF and being a virgin?
	Or like, no, it's just, I mean, Andrew raised a really good point.
	A lot of OF girls lie in furtherance of their OnlyFans career.
	So it's dubious that she's a virgin.
	If she is, in fact, a virgin, that's most virgin women are not like straight to like, okay, I'm going to become a sex worker.
	If she wasn't lying, does it change any question?
	Here, I'll give you a demonstration.
	It actually would make sense, right?
	If you're so socially awkward that you end up being a virgin, for instance, you blame it on being socially awkward, why would you start an OF, right?
	Socially awkward people don't usually do outgoing things like that.
	So that would be, that would be one.
	And then two, if you promote your OnlyFans as I am a virgin, you have every incentive in the world to push that fetish on people.
	So it actually doesn't make that much sense, right?
	Ultimately, you would expect that there's just probably not that many women on OnlyFans who are virgins, essentially.
	Yeah, well, I just didn't have time for that.
	Before OF, well, I'm currently in foster care.
	Before that, I was homeless and I have two younger sisters that I basically raised.
	So I just didn't have time to go on dates or meet guys or anything to date.
	Yeah.
	I can explain it to you like this.
	Can a virgin be an OF creator?
	Sure, of course.
	It seems unlikely, but sure, it could be the case.
	I had a couple questions for you, though, just following up.
	Actually, before, hold on, we'll get everybody's relationship status.
	But first, I need to let Grid One come in here.
	Yo, Grid One, thank you, man.
	Grid One Motorsports donated $200.01.
	Thank you, man.
	My membership is bug boys.
	So weird.
	Happy New Year and welcome back, Brixon.
	Yo, thank you, man.
	Good to see you in the chat.
	I hope you had a good holiday.
	Good to see you in 2025.
	And I think I saw it's working though, right?
	Is it your membership?
	Can you chat?
	Are you able to chat?
	I don't know.
	Relationship status?
	Go ahead.
	I'm single.
	All right.
	How long have you been single?
	A couple years.
	Have you ever had a relationship?
	Yeah.
	How long was that?
	It was like almost two years.
	Two years?
	That was like my longest one.
	So you were like 15 or something?
	Yeah, like 15 to 17.
	And it was like.
	Wait, 15 to 17?
	Yeah.
	You said you've been single for a couple years, though.
	Yeah, because I'm almost going to be 19 in February.
	February 7th.
	I'm going to be 19.
	Why did you break up with him?
	No, he broke up with me.
	Oh, he dumped you.
	Why is that?
	Because he cheated on me.
	But I just took it like a good girl.
	Like, I knew he was cheating on me, and I stayed in the relationship because I loved him so much.
	Happy New Year.
	Yes.
	I don't know why it's.
	I can't tell today's panel is going to be an interesting one.
	Do I regard it?
	Also, as the cue.
	No, because I learned a lot.
	By Dollar Trump.
	Yeah.
	Hold on, since it's coming in, I'll send in the actual one.
	Ogle, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Ogle donation.
	Not sure why it's doing the Trump tunnel.
	I can tell today's panel is going to be an interesting one.
	Also, as the QT said, by Dollar Trump.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Rock and roll.
	Okay.
	And so there's no guy in the picture right now?
	Well, there kind of was.
	What do you mean?
	Like, there's this one guy, Greeny.
	He does like TikTok, but he went on a date with Brekkie and he's, yeah.
	Okay.
	And then, Yeah, but I can't even really talk about the situation.
	So you just have a crush on him?
	No, like we have been talking and then there's like so much drama around the whole entire situation.
	So now I'm kind of like moving on.
	Because like.
	Was it ever a situationship or yeah, for sure?
	Okay.
	Like there were, there was definitely a thing between us happening.
	And now he's officially with Brecky?
	No, they just hung out.
	And like they definitely.
	We've had her on the show like two years ago, I think.
	It sounds like you were talking to him and he was talking to everybody.
	Yeah.
	I mean, he should have said that I was like just a bird on his roster.
	So.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let me read one chat here.
	Actually, here, I'll get it.
	Lucas, I'll get in just a sec.
	Relationship status.
	I'm in a relationship and I've been in a relationship for 12 years.
	Almost 13, I think.
	Okay.
	Right around there.
	All right.
	So pretty much since like 18 then?
	I met him the week I turned 18.
	Got it.
	I've been together ever since.
	He's two years older than me.
	Okay.
	So 31.
	All right.
	Can I do math?
	Got it.
	How did you guys meet?
	Well, that's a long story.
	I was living in my car and he asked me out on a first date and I thought it would just be like banging for roof.
	But then I ended up liking him a lot and he liked me back.
	So it just lasted 12 years.
	Hold on.
	Banging for roof.
	Yes.
	Were you homeless?
	I was in my car, but it's winter, so warm house, you know.
	Okay.
	So initially.
	That's really is.
	Do you want kids or?
	No.
	No kids.
	Okay.
	I was going to say, like, that's what you could tell your kids.
	If I did, I would think.
	Bang him for roof, then that's how I met your father.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, what about you?
	I'm single, and that's how it should be.
	I feel like it's appropriate, though, for everyone.
	If I stay single, you know.
	I tried to date.
	Well, I don't really think it was dating.
	I just think I had a lot of friends.
	But like, it was more like mentorships.
	And then I learned things from people and like I have friendships and that can involve a lot of stuff.
	So I prefer to just be single.
	Do you think that should be the case for most women in your line of work?
	Or are you just saying decisions for other people?
	Yeah.
	I don't generalize.
	Gotcha.
	Yeah, if I was going to have children, I wouldn't do OnlyFans, but that's just me personally.
	All right.
	You're saying ever?
	If I thought I was going to have children, I wouldn't have done it.
	You wouldn't have done that.
	Okay.
	Longest relationship?
	Just me personally.
	Really?
	I didn't have a relationship.
	I had like a lot of that were like, I saw a guy that I wanted to just be friends, but he wouldn't let me stay with him unless we did other stuff.
	So then I just stopped.
	It was probably eight.
	What's the longest period of time you've seen a guy?
	Oh, yeah.
	It's been a year now.
	Like a flame thing.
	Yeah, I have a.
	Should I repeat the question?
	What's the longest?
	So are you saying it's been a year?
	I have a year.
	No, no, no.
	Hold on.
	Just listen to my words and then you'll understand the question.
	What's the longest period of time you've seen a guy?
	Not how long have you been single?
	The same guy.
	A year.
	Maybe.
	But not like.
	Wait.
	Well, just a quick follow-up.
	Do you recreationally take drugs by chance?
	No, I don't.
	I take Crozac.
	But no, I don't recreationally take a drug.
	Okay.
	But I'm accused of that because I'm spacey and I have OCD.
	So I've been accused of that, but I'll take a drug test.
	I don't.
	So a year, the longest period of time you've like seen a guy was a year.
	Is that fair to say?
	Yeah, but not to say, I don't, yeah, I guess I don't really know how to answer the question.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay, I don't really date.
	I'll try to make it as simple as possible.
	So you met a man.
	Yes.
	And you were in either a romantic or sexual situation with him.
	You met him on January 1st.
	I'm throwing out a date there.
	If you continued a romantic or sexual situation with him until January 1st of the next calendar year, you were with him for one year.
	So the question is, what's the longest period of time that there's been?
	Okay, all right.
	December 15th, I think.
	That's the day that you're going to be able to do that.
	Okay, and then backstage.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'm single.
	Okay.
	And I've been single for about a year.
	And the longest relationship I've had has been six years.
	All right.
	When did that end?
	Well, my last relationship ended in March of last year.
	But the six-year relationship, is that the one that ended up?
	No, that ended in 2017?
	2017, 2018.
	Okay.
	And then the most recent one, how long was that one?
	A year.
	One year, okay.
	The most recent one, who broke up with who?
	We just mutually broke up with each other.
	Okay.
	And then the six-year relationship, who broke up with who?
	I broke up with my son's dad.
	Sorry, you broke up with me?
	I broke up with my son's dad.
	So he was my high school sweetheart, and we just kind of broke it off.
	I had bigger priorities than just being a stay-at-home wife, girlfriend.
	You have just one kid or?
	Yeah, we have one son.
	What were your bigger priorities?
	Well, he didn't let me go to college.
	He was very jealous, and it got into a domestic violence situation where he was just very violent.
	And I couldn't be around that environment.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Were you guys married or?
	We weren't married.
	We were high school sweethearts.
	And he had me paying half the bills.
	And it was also like, every time I would go to school, he'd be like, who are you talking to?
	I'm like, okay, I can't do this.
	Okay, jealousy.
	Got it.
	What about you?
	Okay.
	My life about relationship is really longer because I like it to be very close of my man's because in the last time I don't been using one.
	I've been twice.
	So I broke out just already with one and the other one last year.
	So you're single right now?
	Yes, I am single right now.
	Okay.
	And you've been single for one year?
	Right now I am single for just two months.
	Oh, two months.
	Okay.
	What's the longest relationship you've been in?
	Five years.
	Five years.
	Okay, got it.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	I've been single for almost two years now.
	Basically, since I've lived here, which is like a year and a half.
	It just didn't work out because I moved here.
	I chose my career over.
	Which is dancing, right?
	Yes.
	Wait, you chose your career over your boyfriend?
	Pretty much, yeah.
	How long were you guys together?
	Like almost a year.
	Is that your longest relationship?
	No.
	Two years would be my longest?
	Two years.
	Okay.
	Who broke up with who in that one?
	The two-year?
	The two-year one?
	It was me.
	It was you?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And you were living where originally?
	Massachusetts.
	Massachusetts.
	Okay.
	So you were with him.
	Was the relationship otherwise good?
	It was great.
	It was great.
	Yeah.
	But you wanted to pursue your dance career.
	There's no dance in Massachusetts.
	What about New York?
	It's just not the same.
	Like, there were certain things.
	I got offered an internship here at a studio.
	So it was just better for me.
	I've always wanted to move here.
	And I kind of always had the plan to move here.
	So I just, yeah, full-size.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Broke up with a boyfriend to pursue dance career.
	All right.
	What about you?
	So I'm single.
	I've been single for the past seven years.
	And my longest relationship was on and off three years.
	How many times was it on and off?
	Quite a few.
	More than 10?
	Five, four.
	I don't know.
	Of all the times it was off, who initiated it?
	Was it him?
	You?
	It was me.
	Yeah.
	Every single time?
	I don't really remember.
	Mostly you, though.
	Yeah.
	And what would be the reasons for it being off?
	Well, this was in college.
	So I met him in college, Move-in-Tay, and I found out he had a girlfriend back home.
	And yeah, so I cut it off.
	And then it was just like, you know, back and forth, you know.
	And he was disrespectful at times.
	And eventually I ended it because I couldn't, you know, handle the disrespect anymore.
	And I still, you know, he said he broke up with her, but, you know, I could never really prove it.
	So it was kind of like a toxic situation.
	All right.
	And who would go back to who?
	He would come back to me.
	He would be like asking you to get back together.
	Okay.
	Single for seven years.
	So nothing.
	Has it been nothing?
	I've had flings lasting like a month or two, but no boyfriends.
	No boyfriends.
	Okay, when's the last time you had a fling or whatever?
	Last month.
	Last month?
	Okay.
	And then do you cut all these flings off or do they or fizzles?
	I cut this last one off.
	The other ones, I mean, kind of fizzled.
	Another one, he cut it off.
	So, yeah.
	Okay.
	Totally everything.
	Brandon, what about you?
	I've been single for about seven months now.
	In total, I'd say I've been in three pretty serious relationships and then, you know, just probably six total, just not fully relationships, just sort of trying to figure things out, and then it didn't pan out.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	All right.
	May I ask Bella a follow-up question if you're comfortable?
	Yeah.
	What was, like, if there was a straw that broke the camel's back with your partner that made you leave, like, what was it?
	The six-year?
	Yeah.
	The father of your child?
	Was there like a specific thing?
	Well, I mean, he went to jail for a week.
	Oh.
	So that's when I was like, I don't want my kid to look at this.
	Yeah.
	You know, and mind you, I'm paying half the bills, all that bad.
	So do you have your kid and you have custody of your child?
	Yeah.
	Well, no, now we're actually good friends.
	Okay.
	So it turned out I have the best relationship with him, but during that specific time period, I could not be around him.
	But now we actually have dinner together and like I'll go in and out his house whenever I want and we're cool.
	That's awesome.
	Yeah, we have a good relationship.
	You mentioned that there was DV in the relationship.
	Was it one-directional?
	I think because I was with somebody such a long period of time, it was at first it was him being very jealous.
	Then I was kind of getting even.
	And then it went back to him back and forth and me.
	You know, kind of like just let's see who can top who pretty much.
	So it just being in that cycle.
	Yeah, when you say getting even, what do you mean?
	Who can get more rowdy?
	Like it got very, very aggressive.
	Aggressive, yes.
	It got very aggressive to the point where I was like, once he ended up in jail for a week, I was like, to hell with this.
	You know, this is not the lifestyle that I want to be in.
	And I let him keep our apartment and I moved on to start over.
	So it almost sounds like in the relationship, you were becoming the provider almost, or at least that's kind of what you wanted to become.
	And he wasn't happy with it.
	He was okay with having just a job to pay a rent.
	And I was trying to make something more happen.
	And having those type of people keeping you down is not always good.
	So I just was a bigger person to say, you know what?
	You can stay here.
	I'll go start over and do things from scratch.
	Now that you guys are friends, do you think you'd ever rekindle anything?
	No, no, we're good as friends.
	I love him as my son's dad, but no, he's trying.
	Trust me.
	Even after I left him, still to this day, he'll be like, I miss you.
	He'll call me when he's drunk and like, I still love you.
	And I'm like, I love you, but as my son's dad, nothing else.
	Nothing else.
	Yeah, no, we're cool.
	But that's it.
	So you're saying it would get, like, verbally escalated, but when I think of DV, I think of, like, physical altercations.
	So was this...
	He got too comfortable.
	Right, but so he would put his hand.
	Yeah, he's asking.
	What does that mean?
	Did you ever hit him?
	Me?
	Or did he hit him?
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, I've never hit him, but I'm not going to let him, you know, touch me and not call the police or like do something about the situation.
	You know, like I've never gotten super physical as him, but it got to the point where we were like chasing each other on the freeway.
	Like it was bad.
	And we were 21.
	We didn't know what the hell we wanted.
	We just missed each other on foot.
	No, I was driving and he was driving behind me.
	And then I was being petty and I would like start like it.
	I could not let it get further than that.
	Like, obviously, it got to that point.
	I'm like, wait, this is not who I am.
	This is not who I am.
	So mind you, I'm like 22 at the time.
	Like, I couldn't just normally go to school like, you know, any other 22-year-old.
	It was too escalated.
	So I'm like, you know what?
	Cool.
	Like, this is not going to work out.
	I'm out.
	And he kept trying.
	He kept trying.
	But no, I had to get out.
	All right.
	We got a message here from Lucas.
	Holy shit.
	Did the entire progeny of Sodom and Gomorrah show up for today's panel?
	Speaking of Jacked, how's Mason?
	Props to OT from New Jersey?
	Wait, who's OT?
	I guess that's me.
	Oh, that's you?
	It stands for occupational therapy.
	Oh, all right.
	There you got a fan already.
	Thank you, Lucas.
	Mason's doing good, man.
	He's gonna, we're gonna get him back on the show maybe in February.
	So he's made like a pretty miraculous recovery.
	For those who don't know here at the table or any viewers, Mason, he's been on our show a bunch of times and he was in like a really, really severe motorcycle accident.
	He was in the hospital for like a month or two, really bad, but he's apparently going to make a full recovery.
	So yeah, we're going to get him back on the show though soon, guys.
	So excited for that.
	Excited for that.
	All right.
	So let's get into some of the pre-show notes here.
	So we have quite a few, so I'll try to get through them as quick as possible.
	Let's start with Nina.
	Nina?
	That's you, right?
	Okay.
	Nina.
	Actually, you know what?
	Hold on, Nina.
	I have to hold it.
	I have to hold it for just a sec.
	We will come to your notes.
	Sophia.
	Yeah.
	In your pre-show notes, you said you've hardly dated.
	So, but you said that you haven't dated.
	So, is it hardly dated or?
	No, I've never dated.
	Have you texted with the dude?
	I mean, I guess I tried, but I mean, I haven't looked like this for a while.
	So, before that, I wouldn't talk to anyone.
	Okay.
	So, let's get into that.
	So, when you say you look like this, so you have a what?
	I have a boob job and a BBL.
	Okay.
	Anything else, like clip filler or anything?
	No, lipo on my chin as well.
	Chin lipo.
	Okay.
	So chin lipo.
	I want the fake boobs.
	Yeah.
	Fake boobs.
	And then the BBL.
	How old were you when you got those procedures?
	18.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I made the appointment after my birthday.
	And you turned 18 in November, right?
	Okay, so you got it in November?
	Yeah.
	December?
	Okay.
	You got it all at the same time?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I went to the DR. Oh, that was my next question.
	I was wondering where she went.
	Dominican Republic.
	Dominican Republic.
	The BBL.
	Do they take that from my stomach and my back?
	Yeah, it's at 360.
	Okay.
	Did you pay for that with your Walmart job?
	Yeah, I've been working.
	Sorry.
	I've been working since I was 14 to saving up for this low.
	Yeah, specifically for 14?
	Yeah.
	I saw models growing up that I really liked.
	Kim Kardashian.
	I loved her look.
	So I started looking up how she looked that way, learned what a BBL was, boob job.
	So this was always the plan.
	Kim Kardashian.
	Yeah, yeah, not the OF, but then I really.
	I'm not even a generation of.
	I guess.
	No, I like this look, and that's what I was going for.
	And so you wait, didn't you say you were like, did you say you're homeless?
	Or what did you say?
	I was, yeah, as a teenager with my mom and my sisters, I was homeless, but I still had a job.
	And mostly like couch surfing, shelters, and all that stuff.
	Then she wasn't obviously a great mom, so I entered the foster care system.
	Yeah.
	And is your dad in the picture?
	No.
	Okay.
	Single mom.
	I see.
	Okay.
	You said in your Instagram bio, it says that you're half, is it half Mexican, half Korean?
	Is your dad?
	The Korean one, yeah.
	Okay.
	Do you speak curtain?
	I'm assuming nothing.
	25% Korean.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, not half.
	Your mom, are you in touch with her?
	No.
	Okay.
	Is she aware that you do OF?
	No, I haven't talked to her in like a year and a half.
	And so when it comes to the plastic surgery, though, you wrote in your notes here, you haven't been on any dates, but one unique experience of yours is the dating world is totally different when it comes to how men have treated you before and after.
	Getting the plastic surgery, the boob job, BBL, chin surgery has that.
	You should have done one at a time and seen.
	Maybe it's all the chin.
	What do you mean?
	Like, forget the BBL and the fake tits.
	Now you're getting all this attention because of the chin job.
	Chin, no, no, no.
	Or the under the whatever that's called.
	I don't know what that is.
	The lipo.
	Yeah, I know, but what's that?
	The goalie.
	She looks great.
	I think she looks amazing.
	But before that, you said you got close to no attention from them.
	You said maybe one or two guys ever asked for your phone number and you rarely get DM'd on Instagram.
	Now that you've gone through these surgeries, you get guys that will come up to you on a daily basis asking to chat, get your number, and you get probably like 20 DMs a day on Instagram.
	But I mean, couldn't part of this be, I mean, you got all these procedures as soon as you turned 18.
	Perhaps you were less active on social media.
	Maybe you should have given it a couple years to really be able to make a determination when it comes to attention from the opposite sex.
	Well, I don't mind the attention.
	I just, that's not my priority right now.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Did you know you wanted to do OF as soon as you turned 18?
	A few years ago when it started really popping off because I know this kind of look really does get the attention.
	So before I wanted the plastic surgery because I love the look, right?
	But then I realized that I could profit from it on OF.
	So yeah.
	That's what I was wondering.
	You said a Twitter post of yours reads, if I was the president, I'd make plastic surgery free.
	Yeah.
	I'm pretty sure Brazil does that.
	Brazil does.
	I'm pretty sure, yeah.
	I mean, what?
	Don't have surgery.
	Like, if we want a surgery, I think one a year.
	It's like part of their health care.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Is that real?
	Totally.
	Like, I am with you.
	And actually, I'm not going to be able to do that.
	You're with her on what?
	With the children.
	Into the mic, guys.
	Guys, guys, into the mic.
	About the strategies.
	That's getting better for our women.
	What is wrong on that?
	Well, why?
	Wait, so hold on.
	Yeah, if you want it, why not?
	Why not?
	Are we still talking?
	Why not?
	Hold on, hold on.
	Why not?
	It should only be free.
	Hold on.
	Are we still talking about, you said you'd make plastic surgery free, so taxpayer-funded?
	Healthcare, yeah.
	Part of the healthcare.
	I have a bunch of pressure.
	Plastic surgery is not healthcare.
	I have a bone pastor, but it should be hair current.
	We're not paying for that in your name right now.
	How about this?
	The surgeries that she's gotten, was it healthcare?
	Well, no, but what I'm saying is in the state of California, I think there's certain transgender surgeries and breast doctors.
	Well, you just said that isn't healthcare.
	I was saying there's specific circumstances.
	I mean, I don't think that that's healthcare, though.
	I mean, I can't see that.
	You can get your breath reduced.
	Even the trans surgeries wouldn't be healthcare.
	You can get a breast reduction if your boobs are too big and it's causing back problems.
	That's a medical.
	Would like other women's health procedures be free?
	Like stuff that's like more like natural, like pop smears or birth control.
	Hold on, let's stick on topic here.
	So plastic surgery should be free.
	Who's in favor of this at the table?
	I think medically necessary plastic surgery.
	I think it's a package.
	Which is like 1% of plastic surgery?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so what about the other 99% of plastic surgery that's purely cosmetic?
	You got to pay for that.
	Oh, okay.
	But you're in favor of you want BBL free.
	You want fake boobs for the crap.
	I love it.
	It's really done wonders for me.
	I feel so much more confident and beautiful.
	So I think why shouldn't other people feel the way I do?
	Well, they can't.
	Well, because they don't want to pay for it, right?
	Like other people don't want to pay for you, even if it makes you feel wonderful.
	Like it's not their responsibility to pay for you, right?
	Well, and also like you grew up thinking that you needed that to be beautiful because you grew up seeing Kim K have it and then you had that doubts in your mind.
	Not really.
	I mean, I wasn't insecure before.
	I just, it's like customizing your own character.
	One sec, guys.
	Hold on.
	would that be healthcare covered?
	Sorry about that, guys.
	So, anyways, plastic surgery for free.
	Who's in favor?
	Show of hands.
	Who's in favor?
	Plastic surgery for free?
	With my caveats.
	Like, in the middle, if it's going to be free, then all the other healthcare situations should be free.
	Like, pops up.
	How about less money?
	No, less expensive.
	Under medical and Medicare.
	I think it depends on the individual.
	Wait, no way.
	Wait, I'm just curious.
	So going back to your thing about how after the surgeries, you got way more attention than you ever gotten before them.
	Do you have before and after photos that we could look at?
	Yes.
	Because I think on your IG, there's only like after photos.
	I have one with like a brawn underwear on.
	Okay.
	Or I mean, I can have to do it now, but when you go back there, maybe just like making the, well, we can take a look.
	Okay.
	Because I'm just curious, like, if there was how big the change was, but you said that you're also in your, I think on your OF it says, you love being a plastic doll.
	Yeah.
	Help me, these are your words.
	Help, help me grow and achieve my perfect bimbo body.
	I want to go much, much bigger.
	All tips go towards surgery.
	I will not spend a dime on anything else.
	So what precisely when it comes to the cosmetic surgery, do you want to do, like, you want to get a revision?
	Yeah, so I want to get like three to four BBLs.
	Come on, you're trolling, right?
	No.
	No.
	Three to four.
	Yeah, so that's just, I gain weight and then I get lipstick.
	So you just get fat.
	You intentionally get fatter.
	Yes.
	You eat a lot.
	Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	And then you continue to add it.
	Why don't you just like?
	Do you know Gracie Bond?
	No idea.
	You can donate it too.
	Oh, well, she's had, she's had like, huh?
	Gracie Bond?
	She's had like one of the two airplanes.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, yeah.
	She has a BBL, right?
	Oh, yeah.
	No, she's had like three or four.
	That's, that's, I know who you're talking about.
	She has a lipo.
	So like, she will get, like, her thighs are natural because it's just her face.
	So you want to look like her?
	Pretty much, yeah.
	Or it's hard.
	It's hard to get fat for some people.
	Like, I actually want to get fat.
	Like any shape.
	No one talking about that's men's for real.
	I get it.
	Yeah.
	Yes, everyone's like, no, I like a skinny girl who I eat girl.
	But what about they following on?
	Latinas and everything.
	That's true.
	So, come on.
	They want the girl that takes up two seats.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Aubrey Ni is like a more realistic goal of mine.
	She has such a tiny little waist.
	And do you want to do the yeah, I do want to go a bit bigger.
	Yeah.
	Not a bit.
	Bazongas?
	You want bigger?
	Bazongas.
	I do want a bigger ass than boobs.
	So how many boob jobs are you going to get?
	Two or three.
	To each their own.
	To each their own.
	Does anybody else here have any plastic surgery?
	Any plastic?
	No.
	Abigail?
	No.
	I've gotten a nose job.
	Nose job?
	Any plastic surgery?
	Boobs?
	Obviously.
	No.
	Okay.
	It looks great.
	Plastic surgery?
	Yes, I do.
	And I am very proud of that because so many in the world saw insecurity about that.
	And it is what it is.
	Why not?
	You got the boobs.
	Yes.
	And we paid for it ourselves.
	BBL?
	No.
	No BBL.
	No, BBL.
	No.
	Lips?
	I need lip.
	No, no, thanks God.
	No.
	Natural.
	No, natural.
	This face is not.
	No lip filler.
	No lip filler.
	Okay.
	No, nothing.
	Anything?
	If I could get a BBL, I would have told you.
	Why not?
	If you can afford it, get it.
	It's not that.
	I don't have enough.
	So you're going to go much, much bigger.
	Okay.
	And then I think final note here for you.
	So, okay.
	You said you're open to talking about any topics at all.
	You guys you want to talk about body count?
	What are your views there?
	Well, I personally wouldn't want a high body count.
	And a guy?
	Or yourself?
	Myself.
	Okay.
	Or a guy.
	I think there's an extreme.
	I could get, I don't know, insecure, or you could start getting like a sex addiction where you can start cheating, you know, because you just crave something that becomes an addiction.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I would prefer a lower body count for both parties.
	Sure.
	I did see, though, you wrote on your page, BG is coming soon.
	So do you have a plan?
	Like, you're going to film it, I'm assuming.
	Yeah, probably my highest donor.
	You're going to lose your virginity to your.
	Okay.
	So you're a prostitute.
	Will you still call yourself a virgin after that?
	No.
	No, she's.
	I was just wondering because I'm a virgin and people always ask me.
	Wow.
	Long virgin.
	Whoa, whoa, hold on.
	Are you guys laughing at him?
	Are you laughing at him?
	Wow.
	You're laughing.
	Are you going to tolerate this?
	I've been getting that my whole life.
	I mean, she's tolerating waiting.
	I'm not.
	So many fatigue says coming tonight for you.
	I'm just going to.
	Well, people laugh because they don't.
	Some people don't believe it, but then some people laugh because I kind of believe it.
	He's very focused on his fitness.
	I am, yes.
	Are you Catholic?
	Are you what?
	I am Presbyterian.
	Presbyterian.
	Okay.
	Gotcha.
	Okay.
	We'll get that beat out of you.
	You're Orthodox, right?
	Orthodox.
	Are you waiting until marriage?
	I am, yes.
	Okay, I was surprised.
	People always ask me, they're like, what does it mean to be a virgin?
	Like, how far have you gone?
	You know, and so a lot of people, a lot of people consider stuff like that not like not having lost your virginity.
	So how long was your longest relationship?
	My longest relationship was about two years, and it was pretty on and off, kind of like Nina, very on and off.
	All right.
	Were they also?
	That's why I was surprised.
	What was that?
	Were they also religious?
	Every woman that I have dated seriously has been a Christian, yes.
	But not the ones you've dated only the same woman.
	Sorry, what was that?
	But not the ones you've dated unseriously?
	I have.
	Yeah, I haven't taken things seriously with anybody except other people of the faith.
	Wow, but this is not much.
	Virgin and you selecting when you don't even know.
	Excuse me, when you have good connection with people is when you can say something.
	Just, oh, I meet you.
	I am dating you every day.
	Kiss, kiss, kiss.
	And like this.
	Every day?
	Everything like this?
	Kiss, kiss, kiss.
	Like this.
	Can you transfer?
	Here, can you say?
	This is why I'm here.
	This is why I'm here.
	What did you say?
	Can you say that?
	It's something I don't understand about Hennies.
	You say you've been dating for two years, right?
	So in that two years, I'm single and you asked.
	I was in a relationship with a girl.
	The relationship in total lasted about a year and a half to a year and eight months.
	And during that time, no, we did not have nothing.
	Just kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss.
	And that's beautiful.
	I do kiss.
	Oh, I understand.
	Me, I hate this.
	This is so disgusting.
	Depends how people have them.
	Their mouth is not nice.
	Wait.
	So I respect it.
	I respect DuPont.
	She couldn't just kiss.
	She wouldn't be able to wait.
	I'm sorry, my strong ass.
	I see.
	No, no, I understand.
	You'd just rather have sex with him immediately.
	Is that what you mean?
	Like, instead of kissing him?
	Is that what you're saying?
	Wait, have you ever?
	Question for you.
	Following off of what Andrew said.
	Have you ever had sex with a guy but didn't kiss him?
	Oscar, yes.
	That's a European thing.
	I don't like it.
	And the people watching to me now, they can say yes.
	That's true.
	I prefer do another thing with my mouth than kid somebody because now is it more like romantic for you?
	No, no more than romantic because I am not romantic really woman.
	I am I am coming from Europe and we are very open mind.
	You know, we don't have this type of topics.
	Oh yes, love or whatever.
	No, it is what it is and thank you.
	Bye-bye.
	Definitely a European thing.
	Have you had a lot of bad kissers then?
	That's why?
	No, it's not that.
	It's not that because actually I like it pretty boys.
	I don't like it even ugly boys.
	Voice?
	No, I don't like it.
	Ugly boys.
	I don't like it.
	Yes.
	Boys.
	Oh, wait, little boy, no ugly boys, really, ugly boys.
	I can understand.
	That's cool.
	No, no.
	No quiet fails.
	Give me 20 minutes here.
	I'll be back in about 20 minutes.
	Yeah, all good.
	You can just hide it there, Damien.
	We have a chat coming in here.
	Ogle, thank you, man.
	Ogle donated $200.
	This BBL obsession is a sickness that I hope modern-day women are cured of soon.
	Most well-done surveys show that over 70% of men prefer a natural woman, even with less curves and such.
	Yep.
	And we have their intention with that comment.
	What's your contention?
	Thank you, Ogle, by the way.
	Thank you.
	Ogle and other people say that, but that's not who they pay money to on the internet and who they subscribe to.
	Yeah.
	I'm like, I have a lot of guys that follow me that aren't their main accounts.
	You know, it's their secret desires, their fetishes.
	And that's the truth.
	Yeah, I don't think you've done anything to actually refute Ogle's point here.
	So 70% of men prefer someone with a natural body if that's not what they're putting their energy into in terms of who they're following, who they're liking, who they're paying money to, that doesn't really matter.
	Yeah, what's the population of the United States?
	I don't know off the top of my head.
	Well, so if we take 30% of that, that's like millions and millions of people.
	So like, wouldn't that be a sufficient number of people to like have an interest in these kinds of women to the point that they think, oh, all men must like this?
	It's not all men.
	It's just a majority of men say one thing, but then their actions are put towards a different type of body type than what is coming out of their mouth.
	I also like that.
	I mean.
	So you have encountered men who say, I don't find this attractive.
	And then like, what do you see?
	What are you pointing towards?
	Well, they'll say that they want like natural women and stuff like that or low makeup and things like that.
	But then they follow and like Instagram photos of like BBLs.
	Or they're just not aware.
	Yeah, but most people lie about their plastic.
	And after Latinas, Instagram is full of DM and say, oh no, I like it.
	They're a skinny one.
	So that's not much.
	Yeah, and then they pick the skinny one only to cheat on them with the other ones.
	I think most of them.
	It's very normalized, like what's natural and what's not.
	Now, I mean, Peaches was like, is that your natural body?
	And I'm no, like, I'm on it.
	Like, I feel not going to lie to you and say, oh, yeah, I went to the gym.
	You can achieve this look.
	Like, you can't.
	I think that a lot of guys that say that are actually lying.
	And I think a lot of them have underlying porn addictions that have made them lean towards that side of things.
	I think it's also very easy for a guy to say, I'd prefer a natural woman with curves, but that's also just very irregular to, you know, for a lot of people to have a lot of things.
	And it's so normal for people to cheat on their wives.
	And the wife can be natural and everything, but at the end of the day, they cheat on the love.
	Like, it's so normal nowadays.
	Or you can just feel ashamed because, I mean, there is like a negative connotation or a negative perspective to plastic surgery that you feel like, oh, I shouldn't like that.
	Ogle, do you think you could?
	I don't know if you can send us this study.
	If you can send us the study so we can actually look at it because she says that she thinks it's perhaps dubious.
	So if we could actually look at the study, please.
	That could be helpful.
	Kai Baca, thank you for the gifted 20 subs.
	Really appreciate it.
	Thank you so much.
	Over there on Twitch.
	Yeah.
	A lot of girls that do our work, not, yeah.
	They literally will pretend like they don't get anything done.
	And then they do.
	Make it seem like they are natural so that men feel like, oh, yeah, at least you're being like, yeah, like you're tweeting it.
	Like you're like, yeah, I get all this done, you know?
	So I have a question for, sorry, Sophia.
	I forgot your name.
	Eva.
	Eva, thank you.
	Would you like it if a man was on performance enhancing drugs like steroids?
	Because those are pretty common in South America.
	This is the situation because in Spain, people like it a lot, take care of their health and everything.
	So we women recognize right away when men just use this to get an attention, you know?
	But in my case, for example, I can recognize men when they are well for beautiful things.
	Interesting.
	I prioritize health, you know.
	So if you're healthy, if you're not taking a really high dose where you're going to kill yourself or hurting your heart, then I'm fine with that.
	I mean, once I start getting bigger, I'm going to go to the gym.
	I'm going to do cardio.
	So my health hurt is healthy, you know.
	So yeah, if I find a guy that's on steroids and he feels good and he likes the way he looks, then yeah, why not?
	Very interesting.
	We have another one just to follow up here from Ogle.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Ogle donated $200.
	Last comment on this from me.
	You guys are mixing up what a man will have sex with versus what he will end up with.
	You could be one or the other, I guess.
	Pick a choice.
	Okay, but is it like sleeping with a woman your foot in the door to dating them?
	Isn't that what a lot of guys say?
	Wait, hold on.
	So you'll date, but you're not going to be able to do that.
	Do you think men, all the women that men sleep with, they're going into that sexual encounter with the intention of being in a long-term relationship with her?
	No.
	Or don't you think it's actually more likely than not that when a man is pursuing a sexual interaction with a woman, it's probably not for long term.
	It's probably not, but it's a foot in the door to that direction.
	Yeah, sure.
	I would disagree with that.
	I mean, he's just pointing out that they'll have sex with these women, but long term.
	But even if that's the case, it's still a distraction to the ultimate goal if you're trying to be in a relationship.
	And they'll tell you upfront if they don't want a relationship with you, you know, like you kind of choose it.
	I mean, like, I don't choose to have a relationship with guys because they know what I do.
	Well, what about this?
	We have Metro Mac coming in.
	It has to be so up to you.
	$200.
	Women who get work are insecure themselves.
	And that's enough of a red flag in and of itself.
	Stay natural, ladies.
	Us men appreciate it.
	Okay, what's wrong with being insecure?
	I mean, if you're fat, you go to the gym because you want to look a certain way.
	I want it to look a certain way.
	It doesn't mean I'm insecure of my last body.
	I do think I got hotter.
	But so what?
	To each their own.
	I feel like everyone's insecure.
	I feel like he's saying it in a bad like way, like a negative way.
	But I think that everyone is insecure about something and they can work towards something and like make it better.
	So you might want to punch me after I say this, but couldn't you have gone to the gym to get your butt?
	Not really.
	No, again, to each their own.
	No, maybe, maybe not.
	That's a good point, Abigail.
	Maybe not like her butt, but like a nice button in the gym, yes.
	Yeah, for sure.
	But no, I was going for an extreme look.
	Okay.
	That's the look I like.
	I can't go to the gym.
	Like your booby, great.
	Like, I can't see your butt.
	Oh, like you're sitting.
	I'll stand up there.
	How about this?
	Do you guys think that a guy who didn't want to date a girl because she had plastic surgery, do you think that that's that's totally fair?
	I mean, we all have our own boundaries, you know?
	Like, I probably wouldn't date a ginger.
	That's fucking like.
	I mean, we all have preferences.
	So, I mean, are you a gentleman?
	Why?
	Just curious why.
	I mean, it's just not my type.
	Like, we have types.
	Yeah.
	I think that's.
	What's your type?
	I have, like, two different types.
	Yeah.
	So it really depends.
	No.
	Okay.
	So it's like a light skin or.
	What is that?
	You mean a light-skinned black guy?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Or like a white, like blue eyes.
	Oh, yes.
	Like, yeah, like brunette.
	Like, light.
	Dirty brown?
	Yeah, like, blondish hair, like two complete different types.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Listen to the mix.
	I honestly think if more people would be the case.
	I have a question for you.
	So you said you wanted to go for the extreme look.
	Was that something you always wanted, or is that something you decided on because you, you know, you knew you were going into OnlyFans?
	I mean, at first, I wanted like a Kim K look for sure.
	Nikki Minaj.
	I think throughout the years I got more comfortable.
	And like now that I have it, I thought these boots were going to be too big for me.
	I got 850 CC, which is the biggest you could get in one round.
	And I was like, okay, if it's the biggest, that's what I want.
	But they might look too big.
	Now that I have them and they've settled, I want more.
	So I think throughout the years I have, I mean, I didn't know Gracie Bond three years ago.
	I didn't know Aubrey Nee two years ago.
	So I think the most, the more I've been exposed, I'm like, that looks really good.
	I want to look like that.
	What draws you to the extreme look, though, which is, you know, what I'm wondering.
	Yeah, me personally, I like it, but also good money.
	I feel like it's going to make you more money.
	Yeah, that's my goal.
	So do you think if you were influenced by other women on the internet, you would have never had a plastic surgery?
	I don't think so.
	I think society also has beauty standards.
	So it's not just social media.
	It's everywhere.
	It's always been a thing, you know?
	No, I just want to understand because like I don't have any work done, but if I were to get work done, like I would want it to look as natural as possible.
	My thing is like if they could tell that it's fake, I don't want it.
	Like my eyelashes, for example, their lash extensions.
	A lot of people say you can't really tell.
	That's the look I was going for.
	You're just enhancing your own look.
	Yeah, so I just wanted to know like the opposite perspective.
	Plus, they are fake.
	You pay for that.
	So they are in the beginning.
	It's real.
	It's my own fat guys.
	It's just transfer.
	Your lashes look really good.
	Thank you.
	Very interesting.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	So cute.
	We're the man at the table, so go ahead and okay, fantastic.
	Well, I have another question for you.
	So you said that you're all pretty much in this for the money.
	Will you ever get to a point where you're satisfied with how much money you have?
	When I can like fully retire.
	Okay, so what would that look like?
	What's the goal?
	28.
	Okay, so your goal would be to retire at 28 years old.
	Kids in the future?
	Maybe.
	I have my younger sisters and I'm basically raising them.
	I want to adopt them.
	So I don't know.
	So family, husband eventually?
	Yeah, for sure.
	I mean, I want to meet someone organically.
	You know, I don't want to meet someone on social media.
	I do think social media has ruined the dating scene.
	So I want to get to know someone and obviously they need to be okay with what I do, the job I do, the way I look, obviously.
	So if they're okay with those boundaries and they have the same morals as me, of course.
	So by the age of 28, do you plan to keep your body count under a certain number so that like you said, you'll be able to have a lower body count when going into a relationship?
	Well, by that time, I hope I'm in a loving relationship.
	Okay, so by that time.
	Yeah, I would want someone that's okay with my work and maybe even willing to do it with me, you know?
	Okay.
	I don't want to sleep around with a bunch of guys.
	interesting do you plan to it one sec Jason Ketzsel donated $200.
	Thank you, Jason.
	Jeffrey, there are approximately 166 million men in the U.S. 30% of that is about 50 million.
	There is a good chance the men that like fake bitches is from the 50 million.
	Most men don't like fake women.
	Most men don't like it.
	So fake women.
	Since you dispute these things.
	I'm only thinking about the gay.
	Since you have some disputes over the 70% figure that Ogle mentioned, I guess what percentage of men do you think maybe, I don't know if this would be the right phrasing, prefer the whole fake look over natural?
	Or you give us your own percentages?
	It's hard because I don't know.
	So I would have to see exactly what study he's talking about.
	What's the demographic?
	What's the regions?
	And what's the percentage and things like that?
	That is just something that I've seen or experienced in life, my personal life, and seen on the internet.
	So having a set percentage, I can't even begin to speculate.
	Do you think it's a majority of men?
	So 51% or more?
	I think a majority of men either wander with their eyes or engage online by liking or following, et cetera, in women that have these extreme body types.
	Now, I'm not saying that they are DMing them or things like that, but I do think that most men are probably subscribing to that or like liking that and putting their energy towards that, which feeds the algorithm.
	And then you slowly get society pushing that everywhere, even if it's the minority of how most people live their lives.
	Okay.
	But also, I think it's okay if you don't like a person that has plastic surgery.
	I'll just find someone that likes me.
	Do you plan to invest your money into anything with the money you make on OnlyFans?
	Yeah, I mean, maybe like.
	She wants to just reinvest it in herself.
	She has her own.
	Not Trump coins.
	She has her money.
	No, not like she's real estate.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, I'd have to educate myself on that.
	But yeah, I don't want the money I've earned and all my hard work to go to waste.
	Especially because I don't plan on doing OnlyFans for the rest of my life.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What else do you want to do?
	Sorry.
	What was your decision to enter into the TikTok shop thing and sort of hustle?
	Did you ever consider doing OnlyFans and getting into that side of it?
	I actually had an ex that had a fetish with OnlyFans girls and he tried to like pressure me into it, but it just never was my thing.
	So you don't have like morals that were keeping you from doing it or anything?
	I just, it just wasn't my thing.
	I was a cosmetic and a hair model ever since I was 16.
	So I always like to do my own thing.
	When it came to me starting my modeling career, I've always been very independent and that's why I became a casting director.
	Because now I know I know how to place girls in a way that they don't get taken advantage of and they can make money without having to do a little bit extra and maybe getting taken advantage of.
	So I'm the middle person.
	I know the risks of both ends and I just chose to keep it in the production industry because I just felt like because somebody pressured me so much into getting into that environment, I was like, you know, F that.
	I don't want to do it.
	I kind of got a little bit of anger towards it.
	I'm not going to lie.
	I'm going to be straightforward.
	When somebody, a boyfriend, is trying to get you in there, it's because he had a lineup of girls that he was like, I want you to be like this girl.
	And I'm like, no, no.
	I don't want to fucking do that.
	I'm going to be comfortable with absolutely.
	Yo, Mimi, thank you for the gifted 50 subs on Twitch, man.
	Thank you so much, man.
	That's very generous of you.
	I guess final question on the plastic surgery thing, and I'm going to move it along.
	Would you guys date a guy who got pec implants, ab implants, and bicep implants?
	I've seen some pretty bad ones.
	If they looked.
	I don't know if I would.
	Yeah, the synthol injections where their biceps like out to here.
	It's really weird.
	Would you?
	Would you date?
	I would, I don't know.
	I don't think so.
	They could probably work out and get the same result, I feel like, in the end of the day.
	It depends.
	Well, how big, how big they want to get it.
	Do you think that there are some mental issues that go into that?
	What did you say?
	Do you think that there are some mental issues that would go along with a man that injects his muscles with people that do Roids have a lot of anger issues and are more like stuff like that?
	So I don't know.
	If he was probably.
	What do you think?
	Like, if you saw a guy that had, like Brian said, like, pec implants or like synthol injections, would you think this guy's probably not all there?
	I guess I want a mental guy that goes to the gym just because that takes like a lot of work and dedication.
	So I think that's, it, it shows them that they have a like a work ethic, you know?
	You guys are probably like, you should have gone to the gym too.
	But if they look good, I guess you, you do you, bae.
	Would any of you think it's like mental illness though?
	Kind of.
	I would date somebody with a two inches, a man with a jaw lipo.
	I think it's a lot easier to do that than to get injections for men.
	Yeah.
	I don't think it'd just be like physical preference for me.
	Have you ever seen like a man get like their eyebrows threaded?
	They think it's like the worst pain ever.
	I took my brother to get his eyebrows threaded.
	He didn't talk to me for a week.
	Yeah, like they were like, I couldn't imagine like they could not get any work done.
	Like I would date somebody with a jaw lipo.
	And like okay.
	When like my dad, yes, I have a dad.
	But like when he acts like when he has like the slightest cold, he acts like it's the end of the world.
	So I couldn't imagine him getting like a BBL and like laying there for weeks.
	He would be like, oh my God, like I'm in so much pain.
	Like he couldn't do the recovery process at all.
	I just think a lot of women would look at a guy who had those plastic surgery procedures and be like, you probably wouldn't find it aesthetically attractive.
	And then just, you'd also think, okay, this guy's like mentally ill.
	That's kind of how I think when it comes to women who have plastic surgery.
	Like he stares at himself too much in the mirror.
	Like all plastic surgery or just the extreme surgery.
	I mean, it's a sliding scale.
	Because what if you couldn't tell and you found out like way later?
	You'd been dating them for a year.
	I could tell.
	Oh, I'm not sure.
	But the jaw lipo is fine.
	I think I'm okay with the jaw lipo.
	Like a guy that gets jaw lipo is okay.
	Wait, are you okay with like hair transplants for guys?
	Oh my gosh.
	That was so obvious.
	Yeah, I think girls are easy.
	Please start to fool me.
	Do you be scrolling like on TikTok and like I'm seeing like girls getting like boob jobs and lipo and I'm like, holy, like, I didn't even like recognize it.
	Like it's getting like more and more like unrecognizable.
	And the sausage lips.
	What was your brain?
	I just want to let you know, you said about five sentences there and you said like 16 times.
	Who?
	Abbott?
	Yeah, I have really bad grammar.
	I am from Ohio, guys.
	She is.
	She is from Ohio.
	She is from Ohio.
	Yeah.
	What was your question?
	Well, if you, let's say theoretically, your detector failed and you were dating someone and a year down the road they were like, oh, yeah, I have had a nose job or lip filler, but you didn't notice.
	Are you going to be like, that's it?
	Call it off?
	Well, again, it goes to the degree of what they've gotten.
	Some procedures are more invasive than others.
	Rhinoplasty, not super invasive.
	Lip filler, not super invasive.
	I can tell if a girl's had lip filler.
	I mean, maybe there's some that's minimal, but like if you look at them from the side, the lip protrudes in such a way that never naturally occurs.
	Like if you look at a girl from the side, there's like a ridge.
	The sausage lips.
	Well, even if it's minimal, there's like a ridge that never naturally occurs.
	So lip filler is actually pretty obvious to me.
	But again, it's scales.
	Like, okay, breast implants, that's a bit more.
	Lipo, that's a bit more.
	BBL, that's going pretty far with it.
	And so I do think that these are probably proxy for some sort of mental illness.
	But so you would immediately break up with them if you didn't know and then they told you.
	Oh, so I got bamboozled.
	Yes.
	You couldn't figure, you like didn't tell, and then they tell you later.
	You didn't tell what, though?
	You couldn't tell.
	Like, you didn't.
	I know you say you're really good at seeing it, but I'm just saying if you didn't catch it.
	Do you bring that up?
	That's what I'm saying.
	Wait, so just for the sake of like the hypothetical, is it that much of a deal breaker?
	It doesn't matter at all.
	So one thing I'd like to try to avoid with these conversations is like going to like really kind of like extreme or like unrealistic scenarios.
	So like you can ask me like, what about this situation?
	So okay, be precise.
	What surgeries does she have that I'm not aware of?
	And I've been dating her for a year.
	Sometimes she got a boob job.
	And I know, let's just say, but theoretically, in this hypothetical, you did not know.
	Would it be that much of a deal breaker?
	How would I not know if I've been dating this girl for a year?
	I felt her boobs.
	Did I feel that?
	It doesn't feel normal.
	Okay, I mean, and the dotting on the booby.
	Have you felt fake boobs?
	Well, yeah, but the point isn't about the fake boobs.
	I just picked a random surgery.
	I'm just, it's just a plastic surgery.
	You could pick anyone you like if you didn't notice.
	Yes.
	There you go.
	That's all I was wondering.
	Yeah.
	That would not be a deal breaker for me.
	If she bamboozled me.
	If she lied about it, yeah, for sure.
	But if it was something that was so minor that it wasn't.
	She giggles in like, surprise.
	Like your beard, I feel like you're not.
	You're going to have a really hard time finding a girl that isn't incredibly insecure about something.
	So, yeah, I don't think that wouldn't bother me too much.
	So I guess to answer your question.
	Do you think it's an omission?
	Like she was hiding it for a reason?
	Yeah, if she was hiding it and she lied about it, like I said, that would be a good idea.
	She's not lying about it, she's omitting it because perhaps she, like in Brian's case, Brian's saying, okay, I don't like this.
	So the response from the gal is like, okay, but what if you really like this girl?
	And then you found out later that she had this work done and hadn't told you about it.
	Let's say Brian had never asked, so he has no idea.
	She didn't lie to him exactly, right?
	She just hit it.
	In this case, it would be she just hid it because he knows she knows he doesn't like it, right?
	That's the case.
	That's definitely...
	Isn't that like an omission, really?
	That's definitely a second-date question for me.
	I usually go with that one.
	And then, are you a virgin is usually a first-date question?
	That makes sense.
	No, no, I get that, but I'm not saying you specifically.
	I'm just saying in the case of Brian, what I'm saying is that there's an omission.
	So if you go for a year, right, and a girl's had boob job and things like this and knows that you don't like plastic surgery, that's why she omitted it.
	She hasn't lied to you, but she has done an omission here, which to me would be just as good as lying, essentially, right?
	So you just say, look, that's dishonest, even if the intent wasn't to lie directly.
	Yeah, if you've made it clear that you don't like it, for sure.
	Yeah, and I guess going back to your thing, so I mean, even going in, it's not 100% a deal breaker, like if she has fake pooz.
	It is like a negative mark, though.
	Like aesthetically, I don't like it.
	And then I'm going to probably make some assumptions, whether correct or incorrect, like maybe proxy for mental illness.
	Or she's just like, there's a degree of vanity there that I typically don't find attractive.
	It's not 100% a deal breaker, but it is like I am less inclined to date a woman with fake breasts.
	So Brian, for you, it's a red flag for you, personally.
	Like let's say outside of the word, yeah, so it's not 100% deal breaker, but do you guys, is red flag considered deal breaker?
	Is it just something like, I'm proceeding cautiously?
	I mean, it's not a deal breaker.
	Some people consider red flags deal breakers, but yes, it would be a red flag.
	But yeah, not 100% deal breaker, but I mean, it's just not my preference.
	It's not my preference.
	Understandable.
	But like if the girl is otherwise amazing and meets all my other criteria, I don't think it would be 100% deal breaker.
	But I do have a strong preference towards, I'm a natural body supremacist.
	Natural body supremacist prefer natural.
	I'll take flat or A-cup over perfect fake titties.
	I did a poll on it on Twitter, actually.
	80% of guys who responded to my poll said they'd prefer a girl who has A-cups or who is flat over a girl who has perfect, like I think I said C-cup fake breasts.
	I feel like your demographic might be biased, though.
	It could.
	Sure, it could.
	It's your followers.
	It also got into a way to them.
	But I mean, shouldn't it be?
	So if the idea here is you're kind of sampling the demographic who are in the dating market who are young men who are giving you their preference, like it seems like that's exactly a demographic you want to hear from, right?
	But you're pulling from a religious demographic specifically.
	What?
	This isn't a religious or demographic.
	Or I guess more conservative.
	I mean, between Andrew, you're really religious, and I would say you're fairly conservative.
	So I'm assuming most of the people that watch you align in that.
	Not whatever.
	No.
	Whatever.
	Not whatever explicitly.
	It's a specific following.
	You know what I mean?
	Well, I would agree with you on the Crucible, my channel, that probably 50-60% of people are religious.
	There's no doubt that that's true, but whatever is a whole different ball view.
	I don't think most of the people there are religious at all.
	Not specifically religious, but there's a type here.
	You know, the viewers are very familiar.
	They familiarize with his preferences, with his preferences, but I feel like that goes only that is only limited to your followers.
	So they are.
	You'll have clips, right?
	Those clips will go out to millions of people, literally millions.
	And then you can start reading through the comments, right?
	And it's like there's an awful lot of men who seem to agree with the social circle that's speaking in these polls or whatever.
	Now, is she right?
	Is that astute scientific information?
	Well, no, right?
	Of course not.
	And nobody's saying it is.
	Just that I'm not sure that it's biased.
	I mean, that's kind of who we want to hear from, right?
	Is men who are in that demographic or in the dating demographic.
	That's who you would.
	I don't see what's biased about that.
	Are you actually asking me, or are you just generally saying that?
	Yeah, I'm asking you.
	Like, what's actually bias about it?
	I don't know.
	I think if you also polled your general community about certain viewpoints, they probably lean more conservative than liberal.
	So therefore, they're probably going to align with more natural body types than non-natural body types.
	You mean just any random community anywhere?
	And whatever podcast specifically.
	I mean, if you go on a voice.
	But the problem with that is that most men lean conservative, period.
	Most women lean progressive.
	Most men lean conservative.
	Now, that's not saying that all women are progressives.
	It's not saying all men are conservatives, just that most men lean more conservative, center-right.
	Most women lean center-left.
	You see that in their voting pattern.
	So wouldn't that be reflective?
	You're saying it's more conservative.
	They like natural body types.
	Seems like you're making the case that men generally would like a more natural body type, right?
	That's what they say.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's not even clear to me that liberal men would be more inclined to fake body types.
	Yeah, well, I agree.
	Hang on.
	I agree with that.
	But her point was to say, I think that because they lean conservative, therefore most conservative men likely would prefer to have natural body types.
	But if we extend that logic out, it's like, fair enough.
	But if most men then lean conservative, this would be most men would like natural body types, regardless of what liberal men do or don't like, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay, we have a chat here from Jason.
	Yo, Jason, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Jason Castle donated $200.
	Ladies, listen to Buff David Bowie.
	He's making sense.
	Changing what you look like, especially to the extreme, is a mental illness.
	Gentlemen, not one step back.
	Not one step back.
	That's literally with screaming.
	Yeah.
	Men.
	All right, we're going to move on to the next one.
	David Bowie.
	You don't know David Bowie?
	Oh, my God.
	Do David Bowie?
	David Bowie?
	He is 24.
	Rock God, singer.
	Rock legend.
	We have one chat here, really quick from Lucas, then we'll get into some more notes.
	Lucas, you gals do realize that the woman we end up with becomes a reflection on our status both professionally and with our family.
	Of course, I married a woman with no tattoos, silicone, or any piercings.
	We got a couple.
	We have a couple septum piercings here.
	We got Sky with a septum piercing.
	You got a septum piercing.
	Anybody else got the rock and the septum?
	I have tattoos, though.
	Any tattoos?
	I have a lot of tattoos.
	My ears are pierced.
	Actually, with the tattoo thing really quickly since it came up, I think a majority of men, I think for maybe even most men, maybe that's the same thing.
	Prefer no tattoos.
	That's probably true, but I don't care about.
	I didn't know that.
	Like, I think when it comes to, I think when it comes to tattoos on women, like, it's good for overall, it's going to be neutral.
	Like, there's maybe some men who have like some sort of fetish or kink, like that do like that thing or they like the aesthetic.
	Majority of men, though, it's either going to be completely neutral or it's going to be negative.
	I think it depends on location.
	So, like, if a woman has a butterfly tattoo or something stupid like that that's covered up that nobody else has ever seen, like, I don't think, I don't think men care about that.
	But if they have a sleeve, right, it's instantly in the you're a trashy chick category almost instantly.
	If there's a sleeve or a neck tattoo or, you know, stuff like that, you instantly go in that category.
	I agree with you, Andrew.
	It certainly is like the degree to which they're tatted up.
	Like, if it's a little heart on their inner wrist, I don't think most men are going to care.
	But again, I think even then, it's still neutral.
	It's going to be neutral to them.
	Like, I don't think they're like, oh, I'm more attracted to her because she has tattoos.
	Whereas I think there's far more women who are going to be more attracted to a guy because he has tattoos.
	Not all women.
	For some women, it's neutral.
	For some women, it's negative.
	But I think you'll see on dating apps, for example, women are like, oh, I like a guy who's tatted up.
	You had something on this?
	I feel like everyone definitely is going to have their own opinion about this.
	But in my personal opinion, I see tattoos as art.
	People make those, they draw them, you put them on your body, and I feel like they represent you.
	I feel like a sleeve isn't trashy.
	Also, tattoos are expensive.
	I don't think it's trashy to have a full piece.
	I think, I mean, in my personal opinion, I think it's awesome, but I also am biased.
	I do have a lot of tattoos.
	Everyone in my family has tattoos.
	Everyone that I hang out with has tattoos.
	Did you have something?
	Yeah, I was going to say, like, in the adult film industry, a lot of us, like, if our stuff didn't sell to men, like, some of us, not everybody, but like some of the adult industry, we, like, let's say you're a girl performer, you're trying to sell to men.
	So, like, I know girls that have tattoos, they get them removed, or they even tell us, the agents tell us not to get tattoos, or we won't get work.
	And they also just tell us, yeah, not to get face piercings, or we won't get work.
	And then, you know, they basically kind of tell us what to do.
	You know, it's really interesting.
	I can tie something together for you real quick that might surprise you.
	So when women unalive themselves, when they do that, they almost never do it with anything regarding the face.
	So even if they use like a boom boom stick, right?
	I'm sorry, I have to use YouTube language for this.
	They'll actually do it in the chest, right?
	They'll actually, you know, chest, things like this.
	They actually will almost rarely do they do anything with their face.
	And the reason is, is because they want the presentation, you know, at their funeral to be a certain way.
	They want people to remember them a certain way.
	They want to be presented a certain way.
	And this actually correlates with body art the exact same way, right?
	Women generally don't want their faces tatted up.
	They don't want that because they think that there's an expression there that other people see that they don't like, right?
	There's something which is ingratiated there that they don't like.
	So I think it is true that men associate this, rightly so, because they would associate it with like way more outgoing, way more social, this and that.
	And if you're way more outgoing, way more social, generally they would associate that with promiscuity.
	And so I think that that's why that stereotype exists.
	And I think it's a rightful stereotype, to be honest with you.
	Do you think that preferences have hindered modern dating?
	So, like, for example, I guess like writing someone off over what I would argue are these superficial attributes that don't necessarily contribute to their character always.
	Sometimes they do, I know, whatever.
	But don't always contribute to their character is causing people to not partner up as much and things like that.
	Look, I don't disagree with you if what you're getting at is like you can be a completely head-to-toe tattoo-covered woman, have a heart of gold and follow every form of Christian ethics ever and keep your chastity intact and have tons of virtue.
	I'm not disputing that there's some women who could do this.
	What I am disputing is that most women who would do this are not that.
	And so, because of that, as pattern recognition machines, that's what human beings are.
	We generally associate behavior and patterns, right?
	That's what you were trained to do as a psychiatrist, right?
	You're literally diagnosing people based on behavioral patterns.
	That's the only way you could do it.
	So, if that's the case, what you're doing is you're categorizing behavioral patterns in order to make a diagnosis, but everybody does this all day long.
	We categorize behavioral patterns and people.
	And if we see that most of the time, women who have tattoos are skanks, right?
	Then we generally tend to stay away from skanks, right?
	That is a stereotype, I agree.
	And you may think it's unfair, but we don't categorize it that way for no reason.
	But do you think it's helpful to immediately dismiss them?
	And I'll use this in the context of dating apps.
	So, for example, on a dating app, if someone has a tattoo, you're like, okay, no, I'm not even going to engage.
	Whereas before, there was a lot more third spaces, or people just met at work and stuff like that.
	Like, you might not know the girl you had a crush on had a tattoo on her back, but you liked her, so you went out with her, and then you find that out later, and it doesn't matter as much.
	Yeah, the thing is, is like, no, I do, I do think it's it's actually helpful to dismiss immediately based on that's why the pattern's there.
	So, the whole thing is, is you're recognizing patterns of behavior, you're dismissing people immediately based on those patterns.
	It's a way for you to keep yourself protected, right?
	That's, I mean, we all, every human being on planet Earth does this.
	So, I do think it is actually very helpful to be like, oh, that chick has a tribal face tattoo next, right?
	I think that that's perfectly reasonable.
	You have something?
	I just don't, I just don't agree.
	I don't really have anything to add on to it.
	I mean, we could say this about men as well.
	We're specifically talking about women here.
	I mean, but we have a tatted up Christian man virgin who's right here.
	I don't think that I'm not saying that in a bad way at all.
	Congrats.
	I'm just saying that, like, I think you can't say specifically women.
	If you're like, oh, they're like this, tattoos are like this, and why is it not correlated with?
	Well, I think we can.
	And here's how I can make the argument.
	And I think it actually makes sense.
	So I think the characteristic of a man being very outgoing, being very charismatic, means that he may be promiscuous, but it's not really a sure thing.
	It's not really something which would just categorize him as being instantly in the domain of he's going to sleep around.
	For one thing, they always have way less options than women, no matter what.
	Anyway, with women, though, the categorization, I think, is much easier.
	When women are more outgoing, they tend to be more promiscuous than when the reason there's no doubt about that.
	Okay, so, but if it's easier for a woman to sleep with someone, then wouldn't the men be the skanks because the men are there lined up, not the women?
	It's harder for a man to sleep with a woman.
	He can go up to a chick and ask her 50 times, but like as soon as like, do I making sense?
	I'm sorry.
	I might have lost my train of thought.
	No, I get what we're saying.
	That makes sense.
	Sorry, I kind of lost it, but yeah, I got confused.
	No, I think I understand.
	Sorry.
	I understand what you're saying.
	I'm just not really sure what that would have to do with us categorizing based on tattoos and face art and things like that.
	Like, even like here, I'll give you an example.
	Even for men, if men have face tattoos, right?
	Generally, that's a red flag for other men to stay away from them.
	They're like, ah, don't trust us.
	You know, there's probably something wrong with you.
	You know, we're going to stay clear.
	You're in a gang or something like that.
	So even for other men, that would be a red flag.
	And generally speaking, they'd probably be right.
	They'd probably be like, okay, well, wait, guy who has tribal face tattoo, probably staying away from you is a good idea.
	And they would probably be correct.
	Okay, question for Andrew.
	Should women give bald men a chance then if their preference is non-bald men?
	Wait, hold on.
	I don't know what that would have to be.
	That's all I date.
	He can fix that.
	So like, that's the same thing with the tattoos.
	Like, that's not really that important of a trait, I guess.
	Wait, hold on.
	So.
	Well, what does the man being bald tell you about him, though?
	That's the distinction.
	So what we're talking about.
	I don't care about having children, but if you did, poor children.
	What we're talking about is a pattern.
	Being bald isn't always a choice.
	A pattern which shows behavior.
	So women who are highly batted up, they're probably outgoing, right?
	They're probably way more open with people.
	And so likely they're more promiscuous.
	There's like a good likelihood that that's true.
	So this is an inference that men make.
	And I think generally it's true.
	It's not always true, but it's true enough.
	What does a man being bald tell you about his behavior, though?
	Nothing.
	It doesn't tell you anything.
	It tells you that he has bad things.
	He's attractive.
	That's all the type of guy that gets on me.
	It tells you he's good at fishing.
	Calm down.
	Calm down.
	I'm almost done.
	Let me start.
	All you're saying is that based on my preference for attraction, should I date men I'm not attracted to?
	And it's like, no, but I don't know what that has to do with anything we're talking about.
	You're saying that tattoos show either like a mental instability.
	So if I, as a woman, see a bald man, that tells me like bad genes.
	So like that's the question.
	But hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on just a sec.
	Because you can fix that.
	You're literally proving our point because your original argument was, whoa, it's really bad, like how superficial men are because we're talking about like how we're going to disqualify women based on choices that they make, but women constantly zero men out and will not date men based off of like things totally out of their control.
	You mentioned superficial.
	Oh, it's so superficial for a guy to not want to date a woman because she has tattoos.
	Women are like, if you think men are superficial, women take superficiality to the fucking extreme.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Because you guys won't date a guy who's shorter than you.
	You guys won't date a guy who's a certain height.
	You won't date a guy who's balding.
	So by you bringing up this whole like, oh, well, what about the balding thing?
	Are you trying to argue that women like have a preference towards bald men despite like full head of hair being more attractive?
	No, women prefer to date men who have a full head of hair.
	Women prefer to date men who are tall.
	Women prefer to date men who are above average in the bulge.
	Women disqualify.
	Women will 100% disqualify a great guy if he's not a certain height, if he doesn't have a full head of hair, if he's below average in the bulge, whatever it is.
	And all those things I listed are completely out of men's control.
	Whereas the things we're talking about right now when it comes to tattoos, plastic surgery, that's choices y'all make.
	I agree, and I think more women should give more men with those traits.
	They don't, though.
	They don't, but they're not.
	They should.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Well, who cares about should?
	Who cares about should?
	They don't.
	Why don't they?
	Because most people.
	Because they're superficial.
	How about that?
	Yes, most people are engaging on dating apps and just swiping, swiping, swiping.
	Oh, you think that's an actual thing?
	Do you think height is only a dating app thing?
	I think it depends on the age.
	Like if you're probably 18 to 24, yes.
	Women's preference for tall men persists their entire life.
	What are you talking about?
	But women over the age of 24, 25 that aren't typically on dating apps as much, you typically see them with a more wide range of looks, I guess.
	Or they're not as, you know, they're not as dismissive of explicit traits because you're more likely to meet someone in real life and things like that.
	I'll give you this.
	So I think women as they get older do tend to deprioritize a little bit physical appearance in men.
	Other things start to become a bit more important.
	Status, money, personality.
	So yeah, sure, when women are younger, yeah, they're going to prioritize like, is this guy hot?
	Is this guy attractive?
	But if you look at most people in, like, married or coupled relationships, the guy's not six foot and jacked, and the woman doesn't look like Kim Kardashian.
	So that's what I'm saying is, like.
	That doesn't prevent a large amount of women from having, like, a really strong preference for tall men.
	Yeah, I mean, they have that preference, but I think when they give those other men a chance, they're surprised.
	Also, men on average are taller than women.
	So yeah, it's no surprise that, yeah, most relationships are you're going to see like an average height woman, average height guy.
	I don't think most women explicitly care about six foot, though.
	I think they'd be perfectly fine with like 5'8, 5'9.
	I mean, you say, or even 5'7.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Hey, put your mic back where it is.
	One thing with the microphones, guys, we've already placed them where they need to be a dumb move and put it back.
	So you mentioned like, oh, but on the dating apps, but studies show the majority of people meet on dating apps.
	They meet online.
	So like, I don't do dating apps, even people in their late 20s and 30s.
	The majority of people are still meeting.
	In fact, I almost think that dating apps, like, it's super easy to meet people in college.
	Once you're out of college 21, 22, then maybe you got work, but it's kind of frowned upon to like be dating people at work.
	I actually think there's a greater likelihood that people who are in their late 20s or 30s are going to have to rely on social media and dating apps because your social circle shrinks.
	You don't have college.
	You're not like in college.
	It's so easy to meet people.
	Do we have a fact checker?
	Because I'm curious.
	Wait, so just quite true.
	Wait, do you think according to recent studies, most people today meet their romantic partners online through dating apps and websites, making online dating the most prevalent way couples connect in the current era?
	The trend is particularly prominent among heterosexuals.
	Would you like to study links?
	This comes in from Q Research, the findings from them.
	This also comes in the focus for family.
	They did a study on this.
	There's a whole slew of studies about it, in fact, most of which are kept track of by the dating apps themselves because, well, they want to charge you money.
	So the best way to do that is to leak you with people who you get dates from.
	So they keep very close taps on that.
	Okay, I actually would like to see that.
	Does it break it up by age ranges?
	It does, yeah.
	But I mean, whether or not, I mean, let's say even for a second, it didn't break it up by age ranges, like just for the sake of it.
	It's still most.
	Most people romantically meet online now.
	Most.
	Like, there's no, that's that.
	I mean, that has to be the case, right?
	Because if you say, I'm romantically involved, and then you say, where'd you meet him?
	Well, I met him online.
	I mean, it's pretty, it's a pretty easy thing to keep track of, right?
	That's not exactly hard data to gather.
	I think there's a good demographic of people that have been in relationships for a longer period of time than dating apps have been popular, been around that can't really participate in that study because they're already in a relationship and have been for like 10 plus years.
	Why couldn't they participate in the study?
	They would just say, no, I didn't meet my partner on a dating app.
	Well, yeah, but they're pulling the sample from a dating app.
	So if you're not on the dating app.
	No, they're not.
	I mean, they do pull from dating apps.
	It is true that you could find some of this data specifically from dating apps, but the studies aren't making a reference to the dating app specifically.
	Wait, Andrew, I mean, one question though.
	Because the study you cited, it doesn't indicate that 100% of people are meeting on the dating apps.
	If you were pulling from the dating apps, wouldn't that number be 100%?
	Well, that's what I was confused about at first.
	Because you're pulling people who are on the dating apps than everybody who was on a dating app where you would 100% be meeting on the dating app.
	Of course.
	Well, I guess not.
	It is possible that you could be external to the dating app while you were using the dating app.
	That's fair.
	But the point being is that, no, most people are meeting.
	In fact, even with friendships, most friendships are now developed online.
	So, I mean, that's not really that shocking to me.
	So, yeah, I just figured I'd, you know, I thought it was fair if you asked for a source, you know, that you get the source.
	I would look at Pew Research.
	I think that you would probably agree that they're fairly accurate with their sourcing.
	Not perfect, but fairly accurate.
	I will look at that.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Let's see here.
	Did you have something on the tattoo thing?
	No, no, I'm done.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	I mean, can you remind me what your position was, though, on the whole tattoo thing?
	I feel like, I mean, it's art.
	I feel like tattoos don't define who you are at all.
	I mean, you can put them to represent you as your body.
	I mean, some people get tattoos, they have no meaning.
	It just depends who you are as a person, I feel like.
	I feel like you can have a, you can be covered in tattoos and be the world's shittiest person, but you could also be covered in tattoos and be the world's nicest caring person.
	I don't think it matters if you like getting tattooed, you like having colors on your body, then you like it.
	Who cares?
	Is my personal view on that?
	Yeah, I agree.
	I think tattoo is, tattoos are art.
	That's how I see them as well.
	But at the same time, I think that the tattoos that a woman has, I think Brian brought it up, placement, but then also what the tattoo is.
	I think it says a lot about them as a person.
	And I think in general, girls that have gotten a lot of tattoos, they tend to have a bit more of a complicated past.
	Would you say that about men as well?
	Or no?
	Yes, I would say that about men as well.
	I think that guys that have a lot more tattoos tend to be, yeah, they tend to have a more complicated history.
	I can't argue with that.
	Exactly, yes.
	The man most cheat on me doesn't have any tattoo.
	Wait, you're saying the guys that cheat on you don't have to do that.
	It's not tattoos?
	No tattoos.
	It's my ex, and he don't have even one.
	And he cheated me three times in my face.
	And plus, they told me, oh, yes, I do.
	I love you.
	And we don't meet in the datings.
	So I don't know.
	I think one of the things.
	This is one of the real points about now in the KDOE AR is for Ria, try everyone to work out the traumatizators.
	Me, the first one.
	Yeah, but this is the old argument where you say, look, in general, women like taller men.
	You go, I don't like taller men.
	It's like, what is it?
	That doesn't, it's a non-sequitur.
	It doesn't mean anything.
	Like, just because you have a certain preference doesn't mean that that preference meets up with the preferences of most women.
	It just doesn't mean that.
	You know what I mean?
	And for some reason, some odd reason, often when you're talking generalities with women and you say things like women like taller men, they'll say, I don't like taller men, as though that means anything.
	If that doesn't mean anything, you know what I mean?
	It's like if I said to you, most women prefer men who have blue eyes, and you're like, but I like men with brown eyes.
	That doesn't tell us anything.
	That's like, that goes nowhere.
	It's total non-sequitur.
	Just means nothing.
	You see what I'm saying?
	Like, it just, that doesn't actually mean anything.
	It doesn't actually engage with what we're talking about.
	Do you guys have preferences in terms of height of men?
	I know you said that you wouldn't date a guy if he was shorter than six foot, right?
	Yeah, because I'm five foot, 8.8.
	Okay, so you wouldn't date someone that's 5'9?
	No, absolutely not.
	And also, I feel like shorter guys tend to have, like, a smaller, like...
	Is that what you're trying to say?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like, I don't know how to say that.
	I'm not gonna be the word.
	Yeah, like, but like, like, tall men usually are packing.
	Honestly, from my experience, I have not had the best experience with taller men.
	The shorter men I've been have been.
	Shorter men are so sweet.
	They're so good.
	No, but for me personally, I don't know if I'm just like a rare.
	I think she's dated shorter men who have had bigger dicks.
	Sorry.
	Then the taller men that I've been with have been smaller.
	See, I've only physically been with one guy, but like I've seen, you know, and like I know like heights like matching, like aligning, you know.
	That's what I thought.
	I know like statistically taller guys are packing.
	So like if I were to like date, I would be like looking too short.
	Like I would swipe in a Jubilee body.
	I'm five foot.
	So if a guy isn't taller than me, that's kind of weird in general.
	Like if anyone is shorter than me, you're short, you know?
	So I'd be fine with someone that's taller than me.
	Okay.
	I'm also five foot.
	So I don't think I'd go for anyone shorter than me.
	But also if you're hot, you're hot.
	I don't have preference.
	You could be tall.
	You could be like 6'5, but you could also be like 5'5.
	I don't care.
	As long as you're a little bit taller than me.
	If you're hot, you're hot.
	That's my kind of take on it.
	Gotcha.
	Okay.
	You?
	Me?
	Do you have a preference?
	I mean, I'm 5'1.
	I can't date anyone shorter than me.
	And the five foot below guys are out of luck today.
	There has to be something medically wrong if you're shorter than us.
	I feel like you'd look like two inches shorter.
	Like, you have to be like an actual midget.
	Yeah.
	To be shorter than me.
	So it's like they're not facing you.
	You guys, I'm not going to lie.
	5'9, 5'9 is kind of like my lowest.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I don't.
	I wish to say this in Spanish, but I have to say in English.
	I mean, I don't know.
	My profanity is really heightened about that.
	I like tall guys because I am really shorter than like 5-1.
	Okay.
	I date a guy shorter than that.
	Wait, here, I'll just on the tattoo thing and then we'll move it on.
	So I think the big thing, again, it depends like how many tattoos, but a lot of men are going to look at that.
	Men are attracted to purity in women.
	Yes, I feel like men are attracted to innocence.
	Yeah.
	And I can understand that.
	I mean, with what I do for work, I haven't had any really bad, like negative connotations about me having tattoos.
	So personally, I don't, it hasn't really affected me.
	Well, just to be clear, if a woman has tattoos, a lot of tattoos even, I don't think it's going to preclude her from getting a boyfriend or getting sexual attention or romantic attention from men, even a lot of men.
	But what I am saying is that there's a subset of men.
	I don't know if it's a majority, but there are men who are not going to want to date you or other women who have a lot of tattoos because of their tattoos.
	You probably don't care.
	I mean, everyone has a preference.
	Sure, but we're just pointing out the reality that, hey, look, for a lot of men, a woman who has a lot of tattoos could be a deal breaker for him.
	He could view it as a negative.
	I wouldn't say it's a lot of men, but I would definitely say there is some.
	Well, so I think men will, there's some degree of toleration that's occurring.
	There's some degree of tolerating that men are doing.
	But I think realistically, like majority of men, when it comes to tattoos, it's going to be neutral and then negative.
	I think very few men are going to be like, it's a positive.
	You agree?
	I'm going to say that.
	Can I say something?
	No, I'm saying that I actually prefer.
	Go ahead, go ahead.
	I want to say something.
	So like a lot of, like most of my friends are guys, like all of them are.
	And they like girls best when they're just wearing like sweatpants and t-shirts and like no makeup and like messy hair.
	And then but like us girls, we like to like look nice and proper.
	And maybe so maybe it's just a gender thing.
	Like maybe girls think that we have to have these kind of looks and these kind of insecurity and things because that's what we're told by some something that's trying to sell us something.
	Maybe they're trying to make money off of whatever sort of look they want to give us.
	They're advertising something.
	So maybe this Kim Kardashians advertising a big butt to maybe sponsor some of this injection stuff.
	Like what if that's kind of what's going on?
	I don't know.
	It's just like we're told about what to believe.
	So we should just believe what we want to believe, what we know is true.
	Well, isn't that what was happening with you?
	Because you did say you worked in the porn industry.
	I work in the industry right now.
	I was just at AVN.
	Yes, but you get told what to do.
	You can't have tattoos.
	We don't get told what to do.
	So you can decide what you want to do.
	It's always your choice.
	Okay, but they recommend.
	Because earlier you were talking about that.
	They say that you, but I know a lot of girls that have tattoos and they get work.
	But it's just, there's a bias in every industry.
	Wait, are you saying that there's like in your industry, there's a preference for no or minimal tattoos?
	Yeah.
	Like it's conference.
	It's easier for women who are minimally or not tattooed to get work.
	Yeah, yeah, generally, yeah.
	Sure.
	We have a chat here from Rebecca Bridgman.
	Thank you for the soup chat, Rebecca.
	Brian, thank you for introducing me to Andrew and Rachel Wilson.
	I read her book over Christmas break and loved it.
	I was married at 19 to my age gap husband.
	We have three kids and are celebrating 16 years.
	Society made me feel like I did everything wrong.
	Society lied.
	There we are.
	Becca, thank you.
	Thank you for the soup chat, Rebecca.
	Guys, if you want to get a soup chat in, $200 for TTS, $100 for a read.
	Let's go to Twitch really quick.
	If you can get that pulled up, Damien, guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow in a Prime sub if you have one.
	Drop us a follow and a Prime sub if you have one.
	Yo, Life BD, thank you for the Prime.
	I cannot read your name, but thank you for the tier one.
	Red Devil, thank you for the Prime.
	Mimo, thank you for earlier for the 50 again.
	Index Dog, thank you for the tier one, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Thank you guys so much for supporting over there on Twitch.
	If you have Amazon Prime, you can link it to your Twitch quick for an easy way to support the show.
	And then also, we do have Venmo and Cash App if you guys want whatever pod on Venmo and Cash App.
	If you want 100% of your contribution or tip to go to us, some of these other platforms, they take a tip.
	YouTube takes 30%.
	Streamlabs takes about 3%.
	Also, guys, like the video if you're enjoying the stream so far, do appreciate it.
	Okay, we're going to get into the rest of the notes.
	We're going to go to Sky here.
	Sky, you said that you ran away from home to live with your current boyfriend.
	You never told your family where you were going, and you never came back.
	Okay, so I'm going to give you a little background so this is kind of a little bit explainable.
	So I moved out.
	I graduated a little late, like a little before I turned 19, about four months before I turned 19.
	But I got kicked out of my house in North Carolina the day before my 18th birthday.
	So I had moved to Virginia and I went and finished school online there.
	I had, so I had met my current boyfriend online and we were talking for about a month or two and he was just like, hey, come move down to Florida.
	And I, at the time, I felt obligated or like I felt wrong for living because I was living with like a family friend, but I felt like there was an obligation and I felt like I didn't belong there.
	Like she shouldn't be taking care of me.
	I shouldn't be living in her house.
	Like I'm not her problem.
	I'm not her daughter.
	So I felt like kind of not obligated to leave, but I feel like it was my responsibility to be taking care of myself at that point.
	And so I kind of was just like, yeah, I'm going to come back in like an hour.
	And I packed up my stuff and I kind of left.
	And I was gone for like two weeks before I called them and I was like, hey.
	Why were you kicked out?
	You said you got kicked out of your house.
	Why was that?
	My mom and me had a really tough relationship.
	My mom also had drug issues.
	So it was normal.
	I mean, I was getting, I was couch hopping a lot.
	She was kicking me in and out of the house.
	So, I mean, once she kicked me out the day before my 18th birthday, I was like, I'm not going to do this anymore.
	I was like, I'm an adult now and I can live and take care of myself.
	So I want to have dad?
	My dad died when I was 12.
	My mom is also dead now.
	She died four or five months ago.
	Jeez.
	Sorry to hear that.
	I'm so sorry.
	Dang it.
	Sorry to hear that.
	Thank you for sharing.
	Thank you.
	Oh my goodness.
	Oh, it's okay.
	I'm sorry.
	Let's see here.
	For the rest of your notes that you have, you said you did these are disagreements that you have.
	You said, yes, only that you disagree that OnlyFans is immoral and not good.
	Okay, I feel like in a capitalistic society, I don't feel like there is it's worse than any other job.
	If anyone in here has been a waitress or a waiter, and yes, yes, no, you're being paid by your job for your body.
	They wouldn't hire you if you didn't have the legs, the limbs, the arms, to be able to move.
	The only difference between OnlyFans and what a waitress is doing is that I'm wearing less clothes and making more money.
	You're just working for someone else and wearing more clothes.
	And I feel like there's you're being paid for your body regardless.
	Like if you're out and you're waitressing, like people are going to tip you because if you look good, you know, like girls make more tips than guys.
	Like they're sexualizing you already.
	It's just I am hiding in my house behind a screen and this is happening to people in real time.
	And like in their face.
	Does that make sense?
	Yeah, you're honestly saving.
	I'm going to have so I'm going to have Brandon.
	Do you have a response on this?
	So wait, do you think waiters and waitresses are disagree?
	Would you say someone that does OnlyFans is a prostitute?
	Yeah.
	Because the definition of a prostitute is someone who pays, is someone who has sex with someone for money.
	The person that does OnlyFans does not get paid to have sex with people.
	Yes, some people that do OnlyFans are prostitutes.
	I'm not one of them.
	I do not include myself in that.
	That is their own personal business.
	But the definition of a prostitute is getting paid for sexual activity.
	How do you know the definition if you've never done it?
	How do you know the definition of a prostitute?
	Can I ask you that?
	How do you definition of prostitute if you've never done that?
	Stop, stop for one second.
	The definition of a prostitute is a person, in particular, a woman who engages in sexual activity for payment, not that they're having sex for payment, sexual activity for payment.
	Now, do you want me to tell you why that has to be the case?
	Because if we were to use such a loose definition as you gave for what is a prostitute, we'd have to include all sorts of things which clearly are not prostitutes.
	But we would also have to include things which you would clearly say are prostitution.
	Like, for instance, if a man paid you to go up into his room and masturbate in front of him while he was masturbating reciprocally and you guys never touched each other, you're saying that that's not prostitution?
	I mean, I would say if it aligns with the definition of prostitution and prostitution, then it's prostitution.
	No, I'm just asking from your definition, whatever you think it is.
	Don't you agree that if a woman is paid to go up to a man's room and masturbate in front of him while he masturbates reciprocally and then he pays her for doing that, that that's prostitution?
	Yes.
	I mean, yes, it's in person.
	Hang on.
	It's in person.
	I would say yes.
	What's the difference then when you do it on a camera instead?
	That's the whole difference is that it's on a camera and not in person.
	He's paying you, he's paying you via virtual, right?
	Yes, virtual.
	Hang on, he's doing the exact same thing.
	Rather than handing you the cash for the same exact activity, he's just giving it to you through an online wallet.
	It's the same exact thing.
	It's literally the same thing.
	There's no difference at all.
	Okay.
	So do you have a problem with people calling you that?
	Like if somebody were to call you that, even if they weren't throwing it in your face?
	I mean, people, I don't care.
	Honestly, I don't give a fuck what people say.
	People are going to have their own opinions about me and what I do for a job, and I'll have my own opinions about what I do for a job.
	Everyone has their own moral compass and their own ideas of what's right and what's wrong.
	For me, if you guys decide to sit here and call me a prostitute for what I do for a job, it has nothing to do with me because you guys aren't the one that's making me money.
	Well, here, let's get back.
	Let's get back to the actual original disagreement that you had, which was, one sec, I'm getting this pulled up.
	OnlyFans being immoral and not good, right?
	So we're talking about definitions of prostitution.
	Do you think OnlyFans is immoral?
	I do think OnlyFans is immoral, but at the same time, you know, I'm really interested in you because it seems like you do have a moral compass in terms of you wouldn't go so far as to be what you call a prostitute, correct?
	As in, it sounds almost like you think that prostitution is worse than what you're doing.
	I mean, I wouldn't say, I mean, personally for me, I would never do it.
	But see, that's my own personal opinion.
	I personally think it's worse.
	Someone that does prostitution might think OnlyFans is worse.
	It just really depends on how you see things.
	Like for me, I would never do that.
	I don't know about everyone else.
	Sometimes we don't have a choice.
	So just saying that, putting that out there.
	Sometimes we're not giving a choice.
	And we sign a contract.
	Are you pro OnlyFans?
	Because it gives the creators a choice.
	I started out in OnlyFans, but I didn't end up there.
	Wait, you signed.
	I'm just trying to understand.
	Do you sign a contract?
	I started out in OnlyFans, and I did even do nude.
	And that, you know, things happen with people who're loaning groups, and you start taking stuff off for people.
	Isn't that ST?
	Why uh what oh why are you why are you crying?
	Because like you you don't always choose what you do, you end up there in certain ways and you don't realize it until it's there.
	Like you did sometimes you don't have a choice because you chose it.
	No, sometimes you end up with the internet on sites without your cassette.
	That's what yeah, I get that.
	I get that bad things can happen, but like you did show you did choose to go into corn.
	Oh yeah, and I very much accept it, but I don't encourage it.
	I don't promote my OnlyFans.
	Yeah, no, I get it, but I don't understand why you're crying exactly.
	Because it's like it's so materialistic.
	Like, I don't want to hurt people.
	So like, I don't want my porn to hurt people.
	So it's like, I didn't look at like that before how porn affects people.
	And I didn't know, like, it can hurt people that I don't want to do anymore.
	So then stop doing it.
	Well, no, if I stop doing it, then I can't help the industry do something about it.
	Wait, you have to do corn or you can't help the corn industry.
	No matter what, once you do porn, it's like you said a death set.
	It's life.
	That's life.
	So, you know, you have to accept it and do what you can.
	But do you not think there's any chance for salvation?
	You're always viewed as something that you walk in a room, you're bought.
	Well, anyways, so what do you say, prostitute, or whatever?
	Like, I'm just spit on and called prostitute.
	And I know, like, I don't consider myself prostitute.
	I don't pay taxes.
	How can you not be?
	Like, you're engaging in sexual intercourse for money.
	Yeah, but that's why I don't have a boyfriend.
	I never agreed to.
	You make sacrifices if you're really into what you're doing.
	You make sacrifices and you agree that you're going to be alone.
	That's what you choose.
	You chose that.
	You would take accountability for it.
	But why would you cry about it?
	Because it's hurtful.
	Like, it is the case.
	It is factually the case that you are engaging.
	It's hurtful.
	Yeah, don't accept me, okay?
	Why is it hurtful?
	Why are you doing this?
	It's terrible because I made a choice.
	When I make that choice.
	Unmake it.
	Just stop it.
	You can't.
	You end up on the floor after 15 shots under clothes and vomit.
	That's what you end up.
	Yeah, don't do that.
	That sounds awful.
	Stop doing that.
	But maybe we should stop some of these people that cheat these girls into that business and get them there and traffic happens.
	For sure.
	Traffic kills.
	So clearly there's some kind of trauma that she's been through that that's why she's so emotional.
	That's why she's crying.
	That's why I come in as a manager and I keep weirdos from getting to girls and taking advantage of them.
	That's where I come in because I prevent that type of shit.
	Yes.
	I didn't even realize that.
	Yes, on set, on music videos, there's guys that try to get girls drunk, try to give them drugs.
	But not middle people.
	But not with OnlyFans.
	You don't have to.
	I've had men ask me.
	I've had girls ask me to manage their OnlyFans.
	I don't touch that shit.
	You know why?
	Because that's not something I want to be around.
	She's clearly gone through some shit.
	She's clearly gone through some drama.
	If she's crying, it's because she already hit that point where it gets ugly.
	Well, forgive me if I don't just believe every woman who cries.
	Well, I mean, you need to read between the lines.
	I can show you proof.
	I can show you evidence.
	I'm instantly believing you because the waterworks turns on.
	But as you may know, after having talked to thousands upon thousands of women, they also use waterworks for the purpose of manipulation.
	I'm not being mean.
	I'm just asking her various questions about what it is she's upset about.
	Also, don't need your help.
	It's not necessary.
	I can definitely have this conversation.
	So I'm just wondering, like, if we can go back to it, I don't actually understand what it is that you're trying to convey, what you're upset about, why this is such a triggering event to discuss for you.
	Me.
	Yeah.
	Because it occupies every moment of your life.
	You can't undo anything.
	You can only.
	That's how you're looked at.
	You get that.
	Like, I take the car to get my brakes fixed.
	And they're like, they charge me double.
	And then they're like, because of what you do.
	That's why we charge you double.
	Can I ask a question?
	Wait, wait, double?
	They charge you double?
	Yeah, that's why my brakes taught him my stop.
	And he had to burn it off caliber.
	It took him extra time.
	And then the wife is like, well, because of what you do, you can't afford it.
	And this is my own small town of 100 people.
	That doesn't mean that you got charged double.
	I did.
	I paid double.
	Because the wife made a joke.
	That's not.
	That doesn't mean that.
	No, they charged me double.
	It was on the receipt.
	I have the receipt.
	But this happened years ago, so it doesn't matter.
	Wait, they put on the receipt.
	We're charging you double because you're in corn.
	They told me that in person, though.
	I have a question.
	This is a genuine question.
	I'm not trying to come at you, but like, what is genuinely stopping you from?
	If it's, if it's like, if it's, if it's upsetting you to be in the industry, it doesn't, oh well, then you can't undo it.
	What other choice do you have?
	Stopping you?
	Because there are resources to like, get out of it and there are ways to get out of it.
	No, I haven't.
	I know it's hard, but like well, you haven't think I haven't done things?
	No, I wouldn't.
	I'm asking that.
	So i'm asking you, go back to it.
	What specific, but what specifically like, makes you go back to it?
	Because sometimes we don't have to that straight to recognize what is the real problem we have in the moment.
	That is the point right now.
	What is they talking about?
	Am I working porn?
	Okay no, but i'm saying, is it like a financial thing?
	Is it like, no, it's not financial.
	I don't.
	I don't even discuss rates anymore.
	I don't even show up.
	I don't know what i'm making.
	Right, I go there because I will fall through with what I agree to do so you can afford paying.
	To pay double yeah, I mean, like it's like.
	It's like, okay, i'm gonna sign this uh contract.
	Okay, that's for life, and you dig a grave that is like well, if you just walk away you're gonna die.
	Now no, just keep.
	You have to keep going and you can maybe find a way through it and maybe make that burden less on other people.
	But if you breach your contract, they're gonna.
	You're in it for i'm not in a contract but i'm saying in life.
	It's terms of like, your life right, okay.
	So once you do porn, okay.
	Now you're a sex offender.
	Now you're this or that, right.
	So it's like you know well, you know because of all this stuff.
	So um, so what you're saying is, I should stay on a white and blue page.
	I don't know what a white and blue page is only oh yeah well, that somebody else owns that, so somebody else owns part of you.
	So have you ever thought about that?
	Comments i'm no speaking on.
	So do you guys?
	Yeah, you don't see it as a slippery slope at all.
	You think that I shouldn't make a white calf?
	Stick to what you're doing for the rest of your life.
	I mean not for like, not for the rest of my life.
	It's obviously.
	It's not something I want to do forever, but I don't.
	Some of you guys are.
	So i'm not.
	I don't see it as she is.
	If i'm uncomfortable with something, then i'm not gonna do it.
	I'm comfortable with the level i'm at right now and respect that.
	See, that's what.
	I'm just a little confused.
	Some of us didn't have boundaries, we didn't know things right.
	We end up in front of camera and we're doing things to please our bosses and do what they want us to do and then and that's not okay for them I understand what you're saying and that's not okay for them to do over and over again.
	I understand that.
	I'm just asking like, so maybe I can help protect girls from getting into that role with those people.
	It seems like what she's saying is, the issue is Like having a good role model for women.
	Don't you guys think that that's true?
	Like, don't you think that somebody who's encouraging people not to go into this, whether it's not to go into it that far or just to even do things in general like that you guys are doing?
	Because you, I remember you mentioned earlier on the podcast, like you were talking about Nikki Minaj and like Kim Kardashian.
	You really look at these people as idols.
	Body-wise.
	You have a lot of, but you have a lot of respect for like who they are as a person.
	No.
	I just like the way they look.
	Very interesting.
	I have a lot of respect for Kim Kardashian.
	I have money to hold empire out of a sexy.
	Okay, okay.
	So you guys see them as like good female role models.
	Like if you had daughters, you would say, I want you to go watch Kim Kardashian's life and replicate that.
	Yes.
	I mean, she worked hard and she is where she's at right now.
	Don't you want your kids to have individuality and make their own choice of right and wrong?
	Yeah, of course.
	And like, I dropped my OF when I was actively still in high school in my small.
	Wait, you were 18, though, right?
	Yeah, I was 18.
	Okay.
	Like, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, I was 18, but like, I've never ever done anything past my comfort zone.
	And, like, so I started getting, like, traction on social media when I was 15.
	And the OF comments have always been there since I was like 15 because I've always like kind of had like a chest.
	So they were like, oh, like, yeah.
	It's kind of like, could be gross, you know, but they were like, it is kind of gross, you know?
	They were like, oh, do OF, do OF, do OF.
	Excuse me?
	That's fucking disgusting.
	Yeah.
	And I didn't even know what it was.
	And I was like, I'm not going to do it.
	Did you have any?
	Okay.
	Yeah, no, I had no clue what it was.
	Like, I've always just been like, la la la, like, super innocent.
	Like, my body counts literally one.
	Like, I had no clue.
	And then when I was 17.
	Yeah, you had no idea.
	No, no, no, no.
	Like worked with my mother.
	I did not know what it was.
	And then I was 17 and I was like in my math class and I was like, I have no clue.
	Like I'm not the smartest.
	I was like, I'm not going to go to college.
	Like what the hell am I going to do with my life?
	And I was like, all these girls are making like a lot of money.
	What should I do?
	My comments are saying this one thing.
	What should I do?
	So I did some research and I was like, you don't have to take it that far.
	I can like stand my ground and I can do what I want to do.
	So like whenever like I like like will message these guys and if they'll like text me and they'll be like, hey, I want you to do like this, this, and this.
	And I will literally just be like, I'm not doing this.
	That's just heartbreaking.
	That's heartbreaking.
	It sounds like social media destroyed you.
	You got a choice now, you know.
	Because if there were men telling you, hey, start an OF, start an OF, start an OF on your Instagram, and then you just like listen to what they had to say and you just went right into it.
	I got to get into some chats going.
	No, finish.
	Go ahead, Finn.
	I thought you were going to be able to do it.
	Yeah, but like if you get a custom request, you don't want to have to do it.
	Did you want to finish your point?
	No, it's just, it's fascinating to me that you didn't even, you went from not even knowing what it was to being like, okay, this is how I'm going to make money.
	Like you don't see other routes of going about that.
	I could have done like TikTok shopped as amazing.
	You could have been an engineer.
	I would like to try that.
	You could have been a brain surgeon or a rock.
	Yes, but also like I could still be.
	Yeah, I could.
	She's still coming.
	I could go back.
	I've always wanted to be a lawyer.
	I love artists.
	I don't believe this, though.
	Why don't you become a lawyer?
	Guess what?
	Kim K, years later, did that.
	But you need to believe money to do stuff like that.
	I don't have that money to do that.
	I do have to move things on here a little bit.
	Kevin Alvanez says, Hello, everyone.
	OnlyFans, porn, and even social media needs to be banned.
	It's corrupted our society, both men and women.
	I'll be the first in line to admit it.
	Kevin, thank you for the very generous super chat, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Hang on, Ryan.
	I did want to say before you move on.
	Go ahead.
	To the gentleman there.
	Like, you don't, you shouldn't believe this.
	Like, this is obvious bullshit, right?
	So women like this will do this all the time.
	They'll be like, oh my God, I was perfectly innocent.
	I had an angelic halo.
	It was over my head.
	I was born with cherub wings.
	And then the evil men came and fucking corrupted me.
	Oh, my God.
	It was awful.
	Like, they're full of shit, bro.
	Full of shit.
	She didn't.
	Oh, I didn't know.
	I had no idea.
	Then I looked into it and went, oh, this sounds like a great idea.
	Yeah, no, it's right.
	Nobody believes that shit.
	Nobody believes that shit.
	No, I seriously didn't.
	Like, no one even talks about it in Ohio.
	Like, everyone in my school doesn't even like, they did not think I was going to do it.
	What did your parents think of it?
	My parents, they like fully support it because I also have epilepsy.
	So I can't drive.
	I'm going.
	What?
	Wait, hold on.
	Yeah, I'm going to be 19 and I cannot drive a car.
	Hold on, you're that way.
	You can't support it because you have epilepsy.
	Yes, because listen, what, okay, wait, it's hard to work when you have epilepsy.
	It's hard to work.
	You cannot work a certain job.
	Like, my whole entire, like, I would have a seizure.
	You cannot retain information.
	It wipes my memory away.
	So, like, I have several health.
	Do you take medications?
	Yes, daily.
	What are your other?
	I can show you like my narcotics.
	Like, if I were to have a seizure right now, you would put it in my nose.
	I put it in my nose.
	Yeah, my brother's missing.
	I probably should have told you of this if I were to have a seizure.
	My brother's an epileptic.
	He works as a mechanic.
	Literally, welding, doing things like that.
	Okay, when was his last seizure?
	Can I ask you?
	He has them all the time.
	All the time.
	He's working with heavy machinery.
	Can you drive?
	Yeah.
	That's not good.
	My bestie has seizures.
	Her life is a good idea.
	I think it's a blow.
	He shouldn't be driving.
	Yeah, it's good.
	When you had your most recent one, because I wasn't going to be able to take a seizure now.
	Are you going to have a seizure on the show?
	If you had a seizure, would you just wake up and just forget that you ever started an OnlyFans?
	Do you fall forward or backwards?
	No, it really, like, I like fall like.
	Did you slump?
	Yeah, like I fall and I started to shake it.
	Push the drink to the side.
	Guys, I'm three months seizure-free.
	I'm about to be able to drive.
	You have to be like six months.
	Something to trigger it.
	It's like different, like lack of sleep, flashing lights.
	It's like, no, I get like a really bad headache.
	And then like sometimes you're not going to be able to do it.
	What are your other health issues?
	I have POTS, which is I got completely nerfed.
	It's like a heart condition.
	So then I have also, oh my God.
	Yeah, POTS is pretty horrible.
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	So I get super sleepy and then I have to take salt tablets.
	Like I'm completely nerfed.
	So then also I have Raynouns, which is an autoimmune disease.
	Oh, yes.
	Yes.
	Most of these are autoimmune related, right?
	POTS is generally autoimmune related.
	Like aren't most of these autoimmune related?
	Even seizures have been linked to autoimmune disease.
	Epilepsy is like my brain.
	POTS is due to my heart.
	Andrew, are you okay?
	Andrew, are you okay with a woman who has POTS and Raynose and seizures?
	Do we give a bit of quarter?
	I was also in a wheelchair in third grade.
	To a woman.
	Look, most people who have these conditions without taking their clothes off for money.
	I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
	Like, I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but almost everybody who has these conditions doesn't have to take their clothes off for money.
	I'm just pointing this out.
	Just pointing it out.
	What's your question?
	I have a question.
	Do your parents financially support you in any way?
	I actually like my little sister is seven years old, and like I will do anything that I can for them.
	Like, so I bought her like a whole entire new summer wardrobe because, like, like my family's not like, I didn't come from like a lot, you know.
	So, then also, like, for her seventh birthday, I flew her out and like a whole entire Disney trip.
	So, like, I do like as much as I can for them.
	And I would like to give back once I make the money.
	Wonderful.
	I'd like to buy them like a whole new home.
	And, like, that's really like my goal with because my understanding of OF and like sex work in general is that like it's a last resort.
	Like, no.
	Like, no, no.
	Like, instead of I do have to move things on, I do have to move things on.
	Lucas, chair one.
	Would you care to point to where I can find the epistemic moral grounding principles upon which you base your claim that OF is not immoral?
	Is it in the Bible of Anton LeVay?
	This is for you, I think.
	And so, where does your moral compass stem from where everybody else's things I've been through?
	Personal experiences.
	I don't know.
	Day-to-day life.
	That's great.
	Did I answer that right?
	I mean, I don't think that's a good idea.
	That's good.
	I think that's the most common answer.
	I do have to move things on here.
	Going to Scarlett.
	Let me get your notes going here.
	Scarlett, you hold on.
	You're related to the president POTIS John Adams.
	Yeah, I am.
	Which president?
	He was like the second president.
	He was the second president.
	Yeah.
	You're related.
	How did you get like a grandma on my grandma's side?
	Okay.
	You're like up through the tree.
	So very distant.
	But I just found it out this, like, like, I found it out earlier, but like, I actually had to confirm it.
	Like, today?
	Well, like, it was recently.
	I had to confirm it.
	I thought that was the funny fact because we could all be related to each other.
	Who knows?
	Yeah.
	We don't know.
	I'm related to.
	Oh, you're definitely.
	Frederick Douglass.
	Oh, wow.
	Who's that?
	Yeah, I'm related to Frederick Douglass.
	Is that the black guy?
	Yeah, it's the black guy.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I don't know who that is.
	Probably didn't inherit anything from him.
	Crickets.
	So, anyways, you, in your notes, Scarlett, you say you've been in the industry for over three years now.
	Yeah.
	And you're conservative.
	Yeah.
	LOL.
	That's what you wrote.
	You wrote LOL.
	Oh, yeah.
	You didn't decide that you were conservative until you paid taxes your first year.
	Based.
	I felt like nine months and I'm like doing everything they're giving to me in front of me.
	This is what you got to do.
	Just a little closer to the mic if you can.
	Can you just scoot it to your to the left a little bit?
	Yeah.
	So you got hit with a big tax bill.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So like one-third of what everything I made.
	So then I'm like, why is it, why did I one year of my life define so much of who I am now, or as far as what other people see me as.
	And it takes one-third.
	It was not worth it then.
	So then I figure out how to do more business stuff, got to count it, and I learned how to do my own deductions.
	Yeah, my deductions.
	And my dad's conservative, so he taught me how to do my taxes.
	And see, my mom's liberal, and she never, she always let my dad do the taxes.
	Just curious, what does the typical like porn star deduct from her taxes?
	I'm just pointing out that liberals can indeed do taxes.
	Oh, my mom can, but they don't care as much about paying them.
	Right.
	Well, like, they don't care about how much they pay as much.
	It seems like my mom would pay like $90,000 a year or something.
	She did like, what?
	How much did I pay?
	It's just like, oh, that's just what the government takes.
	Your mom pays $90,000 a year in taxes?
	Well, when she had an office, she's an attorney.
	Oh, she's a she used to work for Milton Freeman, though.
	And Edward Teller.
	Well, she does.
	She's an attorney for Native Americans.
	She went into more humane ethics.
	Kilton Friedman, the astronomist?
	My mom went to Stanford.
	She worked at the Hoover Institute.
	And she worked for the guy, Edward Teller, who made the, I think, atomic bomb or the hydrogen bomb.
	And she did a lot of it.
	She also worked at Columbia and taught English to form.
	What does your dad do?
	He's a Christmas tree farmer.
	So I grew up with a salesperson and an attorney.
	Was your mom the breadwinner?
	I guess you could say that.
	But my dad was like taken in because he didn't know how to use a phone.
	By your mom?
	So I got the, yeah, yeah.
	My mom got him off the farm.
	My dad lived on the farm until he was like in his 30s.
	He lived in a Christmas, he lived on his farm with cows in Wisconsin.
	His Christmas tree farm with cows and with colours.
	So there was an age gap between my mom and my dad.
	My husband works for Native Americans.
	Your dad's older or younger?
	My dad's a lot younger than my dad.
	Wait, so your mom's a cougar?
	I don't know.
	How old were they?
	See, my mom had an interesting world.
	Wait, so your mom, hold on.
	Your mom was how old when she met your dad?
	She had me when she's 48.
	So I think she was like in her 40s.
	So she met my dad.
	My dad was in his early 30s, maybe.
	Damn.
	But he never had a girlfriend.
	So he was.
	Did she have other kids or were you the just me and my sister?
	And my sister was first, and then it's just me.
	How old was she?
	My sister's one year older than me.
	So 46 for your sister.
	Yeah, yeah.
	48 for you.
	Yeah.
	And now they divorced, and now my dad's marrying a girl I went to school.
	Wait, did you get like alimony?
	My dad is like, my dad is like, my dad got the good looks and was like my older brother.
	And then we played football and everything.
	And that he, so it's like, oh, the dad, dad is always the one that's like, so my mom would sign my ballot because I voted for Trump.
	And then my dad, I just called my dad, oh, come on over here.
	We go out and eat.
	Like, my dad always gave us the soda when we were kids.
	And my mom's like, nope.
	You eat wheat bread and peanut butter sandwiches like with the sun butter, sunflower butters help.
	And I got teased for that.
	What does that mean?
	My voting ballot.
	And I put it in the need to sign your voting ballot.
	Because I did an absentee vote.
	So it says you have to have a witness.
	Does your mom have like power of attorney or something?
	Oh, what does that mean?
	Like, is she your conservator?
	Do you have a conservator?
	I wish.
	But, like, I actually am very financially responsible.
	Like, I'm looking at buying some property right now in Wisconsin.
	And Madison.
	Madison's like a growing, like, the real estate there is actually pretty pricey, you know?
	Booming on the water.
	Wisconsin.
	You know, we got an isthmus, and then we tore down the blue wall.
	And then we got a Capitol.
	It's so pretty.
	It's like right outside my door.
	The Capitol's so pretty.
	I love it.
	Oh, yeah.
	Too many liberals.
	Other than that.
	Let's go.
	What's the blue wall?
	Well, you know, see, I would go home and I would get my mail when I'd come back.
	And during the voting stuff, like, it would all be Kamal Harris.
	It's like they went through and got all the Trump mail, took it out.
	And all of it would be like, it's like, I don't know why, but then it's just because.
	Did you vote Biden in 2020?
	So I did, but I felt like I was brainwashed.
	We only had one choice.
	And I went there in person and voted.
	And they're over there looking over my shoulder, like, you know, and then everybody's like, it was like, Biden.
	It's like, I'm like, because I went to a Trump rally when I was like 15.
	And when he first ran, and I went in like Wisconsin, and he's talking about waterboarding and stuff.
	And it was fun.
	It was exciting.
	Cheese races in Wisconsin.
	So there are people that call themselves cheese heads, and there's a Green Bay Packers and an Ice Bowl and stuff.
	But like, I don't know.
	I try not to eat a ton of cheese because I used to eat chocolate cheese.
	Box of fruit loops that I've ever seen.
	I know.
	Do you want to wear that?
	I have one.
	I have one in my suitcase outside.
	Put it on.
	Oh, wait, you have one.
	Mine says make America something else again.
	Slutty again?
	No, hard again.
	Oh, okay, my bad.
	I like this, though.
	I had it.
	I would go like, eh, with it.
	Oh, you'd lick it?
	Mine was a gift.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	I guess she doesn't want to.
	No, no.
	I don't want to put any shame on it right now.
	All right.
	I'm not trying to shame Trump.
	So you voted for Trump in 2024 then?
	Yeah, of course.
	You said your MAGA Trump.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	MAGA Trump.
	Heart, MAGA heart.
	Did you say this to any other presidents?
	I don't know.
	Like Abraham Lincoln or anything?
	I have a shared birthday with him, but I don't think that we're going to be able to do it.
	Did you wait until Obama?
	Holy no.
	No, okay.
	My grandma wouldn't know because she didn't like Obama.
	She'd always fight with my dad about Obama, and then my mom would come on.
	She'd be like, what is this going on here?
	Because my mom would always make him cut it out.
	Which isn't fair because my mom should let people express themselves.
	Like, my dad had to be this conservative that couldn't vote then.
	I guess since we're on the topic of politics, who did you just ask?
	I don't know.
	Do you guys want to say who you guys voted for?
	And wait, really quick, actually, before we do, I need to let this come through.
	RSV4Me Trocket donated $200 to the girl with the autoimmune conditions.
	It may be worth your time to look into the carnivore diet, which ameliorates or eliminates many autoimmune-related conditions, including epilepsy.
	Yeah, you should do the carnival.
	I actually hate red meat.
	I only eat chicken Caesar salads.
	You only eat chicken Caesar salads.
	Yeah, that's like plain keto.
	Two times a day.
	See, they had me on a keto diet when I first had really bad epilepsy.
	Like in my eighth grade year, I think I tried the keto diet, but it made my seizures worse.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Okay, good times.
	But I love avocado.
	All right, that's cool.
	Oh, going around the table.
	Would you date a guy who voted for Donald Trump both years?
	I don't know why that matters, but yeah.
	You date it?
	Okay.
	Would you date a Trump supporter?
	I'm not very political.
	It depends how he views me because I feel like he's like.
	He's Republican, but he's fine with you.
	A what?
	A strumpet.
	It's a polite term for like a sex worker.
	Oh.
	It's polite.
	It's not rude.
	It's not rude.
	It's like polite.
	Cool.
	Yes.
	Strumpet.
	I prefer a harlot myself.
	Andrew's more of a harlot guy, which I find more offensive.
	That's why I use the term strumpet, which is kind of neutral.
	Thanks.
	So he's fine with you being a.
	I'd liked his personality counts way more.
	Okay, so the politics doesn't matter.
	It's not a deal breaker then.
	Okay.
	As long as he's fine with the plastic surgery.
	If we're compatible.
	You're compatible.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What if he wanted to wear a MAGA hat while taking your virginity?
	That's crazy.
	Wearing a hat while taking your virginity is just anything in the middle.
	Any hat.
	Any hat.
	Any hat would be a problem.
	What if it's like a yarmulke?
	Is that okay?
	Like he's Orthodox.
	He's like I'm an atheist, so I think that wouldn't be very compatible.
	Okay.
	What kind of hats would be acceptable to wear?
	None.
	You should be foeing.
	Go back to Domenica Republican.
	Okay.
	Would you date a Trump supporter?
	Yeah.
	You voted.
	Did you vote for Trump?
	Well, she brought Trump coin.
	Yeah, but I actually didn't vote.
	This was my first year being able to vote.
	You didn't vote?
	Yeah, because I had the most consequential election.
	I know, but I had just moved to Miami and I didn't even know where I went, like, where I would go to vote.
	So I didn't.
	Would you date a Trump supporter?
	Like, let's say you and your boyfriend break up.
	What do you do?
	Well, he is one, and so it's all better.
	There you go.
	All right.
	Scarlett.
	Yeah, I am a Trump supporter.
	There you go.
	Also, I noticed conservatives also, they're more decided.
	So, like, whenever you're doing like a, you know, like a, like, we're in a room with them, they're like, they're already hard.
	So it's, like, not a problem.
	I will say, I don't agree with everything Trump's doing right now, but that tax-free overtime.
	You know, liberals kind of go a little bit limp sometimes.
	He brought Koch back.
	Wait, liberal men have a rectile.
	That's our joke.
	That's our little joke in the inside world.
	Conservative.
	Liberals are a little bit undecided.
	Limp.
	Unfortunately, sorry, I like my liberal guys out there.
	You guys are nice.
	You're too nice.
	All right.
	What about you?
	My ex is actually, my recent ex is a die-hard Persian Trump supporter.
	Sweet.
	What about you?
	Trump is so happy about Latina, so I love Trump.
	Okay.
	Would you date a Trump supporter?
	I'm pretty happy about the board.
	No, he's not going to take him out.
	I'm sorry.
	I have to, for sure, maybe getting married with the man who cheated me for three times.
	But it is what it is, no?
	No, everyone has that type of shoes to say, okay, yes, I don't want to be deporting, whatever.
	So you have to shoot.
	What do you have?
	Wait, three times?
	Yeah.
	You got cheated on three times?
	Yes, three times.
	And the three times I found on him.
	You saw him?
	I funding him, yes.
	She found out.
	I found out.
	I don't want to say because sometimes you don't love yourself enough and you don't have the right way to take it away from that person.
	Was he a Spaniard?
	The guy who was a man?
	No, no, he's white.
	A white Spaniard.
	No, no, he's white.
	He's from the American.
	Yes.
	Hello, Miyamon.
	How are you?
	He probably watched this for sure.
	What about you?
	Would you date a Trump supporter?
	It just really depends.
	Like, are they like pushy with like, oh, like, fuck you if you don't believe in Trump?
	Blah, It just like really depends like how there's like a scale, I think.
	Like, if you believe in Trump and that's it, you just leave it at your opinion.
	That's fine.
	Cool.
	But if you're like trying to push.
	I don't understand.
	So you're saying it would be a bad dating tactic for me to be like, okay, all I need you to do is get on your knees and swear allegiance to God Emperor Trump for the rest of your life.
	Like what's actually wrong with that?
	That's just totally reasonable.
	No, just trust him at all.
	The get on your knees.
	Yeah, you should have carpentburn at this point.
	If you're really loyal, you should have carpent burn.
	I just think they should just let you believe in your political opinion.
	I believe mine.
	That's fine.
	Like you took that one step clear on everything.
	But anyway, go ahead.
	I should believe in my political opinion.
	You should believe in yours.
	And if they're different, that's cool, whatever.
	But just like leave it at that.
	Like it should be.
	Yeah, but he's the man, so his political opinion is the one that's right, right?
	No.
	No, come on.
	I mean, I mean, come on.
	Come on.
	You come on, Andrew.
	Why would that make sense?
	Say something.
	Why would that make sense?
	So I do these things.
	Make it make sense.
	So I do these rush week things.
	I mean, I can actually make it make sense.
	Okay, do it.
	A fraternity boys will hire me to whip them.
	All women ran on.
	And I wore a Trump hat this year.
	That's it.
	Was that you?
	Sure.
	I don't care.
	Okay.
	Do you have a preference?
	Like, would you prefer to date a Kamala voter?
	I haven't done preference.
	I'm a moderate, so I prefer someone who's like kind of censorous.
	Like, if they were too much of anything, it would turn me out.
	Who did you vote for?
	I didn't vote.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	We have a chat here from Ash.
	We'll get to that in a sec.
	We have Bryant Goodwin.
	Yo, thank you for the $100 empty super chat.
	Really appreciate your patronage reminder, guys.
	You can do Stream Labs, you can do super chats, although Streamlabs does get a bit of priority.
	$100 and up to read.
	We do those reads at intervals.
	And then $200 and up is a TTS text-to-speech message.
	Kevin Albanez, for 100 chat.
	Everyone on the panel, I've had an addiction with corn since I was 11.
	I'm 31 now, 20 years.
	I have given myself to this disease.
	Trust me, porn, OnlyFans, or sex work, it's not the answer.
	I agree.
	Because, see, ethically, like now being in porn three years, I'm not, I don't, the money isn't what matters.
	I care about the people.
	So it's kind of like, I see how it affects people that I know, and then that hurts me.
	And I, I don't, it hurts because it's like, you know, what can I do as a performer to help some of these people that are dealing with these addictions?
	Because if I just quit, if I just quit, though, somebody else is going to do it, though.
	It's like drugs.
	If you, if you know, you know, somebody else is going to do it.
	But like, as a performer, is there something we can do to change things?
	Hang on.
	Let me ask you a question.
	If I quit murdering, does that mean that I shouldn't?
	Because then other people will start murdering in my stead.
	Well, it doesn't make you a good person to quit.
	It doesn't make me a good person.
	It makes you a good person to change.
	Change and stay identifying with who you are.
	I am 100% confident.
	So it's like if you're a better person to stop murdering today, but then you're just going to erase your life and start out as a new person and be like, I'm a new person.
	I'm a new good person.
	I'm not sure.
	You're not comparing a murder to go for it.
	You're comparing murder to beating it.
	Those are two.
	These aren't even on the same level of like fucked upness.
	And also, it depends on the person.
	If you do, let's say you do a line of something one time, that doesn't.
	I'm not getting masturbation.
	No.
	No, but I get porn doesn't make me a bad person.
	I don't get the best.
	Because I don't want the money.
	Yes, masturbation and not calling the people making you dice in.
	So she says it's better to masturbate than send that text.
	Yes.
	Well, I stopped doing that.
	After hearing that super chat, do you guys think that in any way, or do you think that you're a genuine positive influence on the people that pay you money?
	I wouldn't.
	Okay.
	Like I was just trying to say, I feel like it depends on the person.
	If you do one line of something one time, like if it was a drug, that doesn't make you a drug addict.
	You become a drug addict yourself.
	You keep, it's your own decision to keep beating it, keep taking a line.
	Like if you become a drug addict, drug addict, that's on you.
	Like, I personally believe, I've been an addict myself, so I feel like I can say this.
	I don't think that it's on the supplier, the whatever.
	Because if someone has, let's say, like, this juice box is in front of me.
	I don't have to, if she's like, hey, you want to send my juice box?
	I don't have to be like, yes.
	It's my decision to say yes or no.
	I get my own choice.
	If men decide that they want to continuously and build up a habit to what they're doing, do I feel bad for them?
	Yes.
	Am I going to change my way?
	Because is it my like decision?
	Do you have any want?
	This guess this goes for most of you.
	Do you have any want to put something out into the world that's like good and fruitful and almost be able to say, hey, I'm really, I'm not just keeping this person here.
	I'm actually elevating this person to a better element.
	Just overall improving their life.
	They would come to you and say, you've changed my life.
	I've saved many people's lives.
	I know, yeah.
	I have conversations where it constantly imagines the finger all supply and demand.
	Like they should not consume it, or you should not make it.
	When we need to be the change ourselves, so if we don't like a certain, you know, like porn, for example, like, don't watch it, and don't make it either.
	Like, we're always constantly pointing the finger, but the change starts with us.
	Like, be the change you want to see.
	Well, I know it sounds like supply and demand.
	This is a really good point, right?
	Like, which thing do you think is easier to choke off?
	100,000 drug addicts or 100 pushers of drugs?
	Which thing do you think is easier to manage?
	Obviously, the pushers are easier to manage because there's less of them.
	That's why we point at the pusher.
	That's supply and demand, right?
	You can't have demand without supply.
	If there's very few suppliers, you can manage suppliers.
	If you have tons and tons of addicts, though, it's very difficult to do it to manage that.
	That's why we go, that's why you go after the source.
	Stop watching porn.
	It's irrefutable that that is.
	Would you like guys?
	I do have to.
	We've been talking about POF porn stuff for a while now, so I do have to move it on.
	We have a message coming in from Ashley here.
	Ashley donated $200.
	Brian and Andrew, is it not obvious that chair number five is clearly on some form of drugs, common in the corn industry?
	Oh, yeah, comment on the porn.
	Please do something to change your life, making no one proud.
	Okay, yeah, I hear this over and over again.
	And it's just like, is it because I'm skinny and white and like a little bit like real in my emotions?
	And I'm not so held back.
	Like, I can express myself because I've been through stuff and I can feel it.
	And I can feel the pain and I heal the trauma.
	I feel it.
	I know it.
	And you're doing some drugs, maybe?
	No, no, because I think that if you can cry, it's because you're feeling pain.
	If you're doing drugs, maybe you're a little bit numb, aren't you?
	I mean, I don't know.
	Sometimes drugs make people more expressive.
	Do you want me to go take a drug test now and I'll mail you the results?
	Yes.
	Because I'll do that.
	Just for you.
	Yeah, just like a little bit.
	I don't want to be a pick-me, but I think I'm skinny and white also.
	And I don't think anyone would think I'm doing it.
	I mean, didn't you say you have like a pornography?
	I think you're on epileptic drugs.
	You're on.
	It's like, I like this cop every time a porn star is on anything and we get singled out.
	It's like, oh, we're the drug addict.
	Where it's like, I mean, I don't know if it's about that, but I'm from Wisconsin.
	Like, I didn't grow up doing anything.
	That's not who I am.
	So it's like, yeah, be offended if that's what you think.
	Go think whatever the fuck you want.
	Oh, I don't know.
	You sound pretty offended.
	Not me.
	I don't feel very offended right now.
	Because you just sit there like laughing and do whatever the hell you want.
	Is that what offended people do?
	They laugh.
	I'm not laughing at you.
	Yeah, I know, but I just don't understand how you're telling other people to not be offended when it seems like you're the one who's offended.
	You're offended at me because obviously that's why you're criticizing me.
	If you had like other things to do with your life, you wouldn't be poking out every little bit of bias.
	Like, oh, that's what I don't like about them.
	That's what I don't like.
	Well, be offended if you don't like that about me.
	If you want to make a judgment, be offended about it.
	I mean, you're the one who sounds very offended right now.
	Not me.
	You sound very offended.
	I feel like we were having a pretty productive conversation.
	I don't feel like that.
	I feel like this is stupid.
	You sound very offended.
	I don't know.
	You seem very upset.
	Yeah, you seem like you're just having so much fun over there smoking your little cigarettes.
	We're having clear air here.
	It's a filtered area.
	I always know when I'm getting owned on this show when somebody's.
	I get owned all the time.
	Guess what?
	I embrace it.
	But, Andrew, you smoke, though.
	You remember that?
	Like, the fact that you smoke means everything.
	Smoky man.
	You're on a drug right now.
	Smokey, spokey mad evil.
	Evil, smoky Marlboro, red smoking man.
	Just Gerald donated $200.
	Yo, thank you, Jerry.
	I have to know what recreational's chair five is on.
	Lot of bathroom breakers.
	Sex.
	You might have missing spoons.
	Welcome back, Brian.
	No, that wasn't a bathroom break.
	I wanted to leave.
	I was actually outside getting ready to leave, but they had my phone.
	So, I mean, did somebody tell you to calm down?
	No, I just got up and left out of my own choice.
	Oh, usually women run out because somebody told them to calm down.
	No one told me shit.
	Oh, okay.
	But yeah, I've been told shit all P4.
	And I listened.
	Calm down.com.
	Hey, calm down.
	We're just going to keep going.
	Good talk.
	Good talk.
	Okay, back to the notes here.
	Sky, we need to finish yours.
	You're not setting anyone.
	I'm sorry, guys.
	I don't want to be, I don't want to be mean to you.
	I'm not going to get that.
	No, that's all good.
	All right, moving on.
	I honestly just like people, and I'm sorry.
	I don't want to be mean to you.
	Why am I fighting with people?
	Yes.
	What does your shirt say?
	Be offended.
	So maybe that's just a beautiful thing.
	I feel like everything anybody says about anybody.
	Because I thought, maybe I'll just cover up my tits.
	My body's offensive.
	If what I'd sell for a life is put your shirt down.
	Put your shirt down, bro.
	covered up.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So going to your notes, Skye.
	You said you wanted to speak on 50-50 rules in a relationship.
	What do you mean by that?
	I see it be brought up in this podcast a lot, and I see there's like a lot of debate about it.
	For modern times, I think I love going 50-50, if I'm being honest.
	I think it should be more like for first date, it really depends, I feel like, on whatever, who asked who out first.
	But I feel like if you're like in a committed relationship, like I am with my boyfriend now, we do 50-50 on everything.
	Well, not everything.
	So, in your situation, is it you and your boyfriend that do OF or is it just you?
	It's Eileen DuSolo.
	It's me.
	He's like, he's my manager.
	So he, like.
	Okay, so you pay him, technically, because he managed.
	So, yes.
	Yes.
	It's both of your guys's money.
	I mean, I would consider it that because he's helped me get to like where I'm at.
	Technically, it's not, it's going into, yes, it's going into my account with my name on it, my bank account.
	But, like, I would consider it a like we both earned the money because he's helped me get to where I am.
	How would you feel if a guy took you out for a period of time and just refused to let you pay for anything?
	Would you see that as a positive or would you see that as a negative?
	I wouldn't be like, well, until my current relationship, I was the provider in my previous relationships.
	Like, none of my exes had a job or like anything.
	I came from like a really small run downtown.
	There was like two options.
	So, I mean, before I was always a provider, I wouldn't say it'd be a deal breaker for me if he didn't ever let me pay.
	I mean, obviously, it'd be a bonus because I'd be able to put more money into my account.
	But, like, it would be a little weird for me.
	I feel uncomfortable.
	I'd be like, let me get you something or like, you know, like, let me buy you dinner.
	Like, it's nice, I feel, like, to treat someone as well as how they treat you.
	What if a guy said he wanted you to pay for everything?
	If he wanted me to pay for everything?
	Like, everything, everything?
	I don't know if I could do that.
	I mean, I wouldn't expect a man to pay for everything for me, so I don't know why he would expect me to pay everything for him.
	You said that you love modern dating, except the expectations.
	What do you mean by that?
	The expectations of modern dating, I feel like with social media, kind of what we were talking about earlier, it's really hard.
	I feel like there's like expectations to look a certain way or to be a certain standard.
	And I mean, it kind of depends on like who that person is and what expectations they have.
	But yeah, sorry, I kind of lost my ideas there.
	I saw on your TikTok something about you posted something about blonde house.
	Now you're hot.
	What?
	Are you hot now?
	Yeah, I'm having flashes.
	Okay, that's right.
	You said, um, you said that something on TikTok about a blonde house.
	What's that?
	Oh, um, so you know, the bop house?
	There's a okay, there's a version of like the bop house, but it's the blonde house.
	I was just kind of calling, I was talking about them because they lie about their age for like content purposes, and I think it's disturbing.
	They make themselves older, younger.
	She's like, just turned 18 last month, and Homegirl's 22.
	And I think it's super inappropriate, especially if you're like sexualizing a younger age, or like you're putting it out there, you're pretending to be a certain age to like pull in certain people.
	I think it's a little wrong in my opinion.
	I mean, but none of them are claiming to be underage.
	No, they're claiming to be like eight.
	Yeah, she's like, I freshly just turned 18 like a month ago, but she's actually 22.
	She's 23, but she's like, I just turned 18.
	I just started my OnlyFans.
	And it's called The Blonde House.
	Yeah, it's, yeah.
	It's like another version of the house.
	You said also I saw another TikTok reviewers distracting him from the fact that I completely lack empathy and don't understand human emotions.
	I pick up really bad social cues.
	Like I said, my house that I grew up in wasn't like a normal household.
	And I've developed like, you know, issues from that mentally.
	So it's really hard for me to like pick up like social cues and I can't understand someone else's emotions.
	Like if someone tells me like a really like a deep emotional story, I can't understand it.
	Like, does that, like, I can't understand it on their personal level.
	Like, to me, it's just.
	Because you didn't experience it?
	Yes.
	I would say yes.
	I just can't.
	I'm not really good with emotional connection or emotional knowledge.
	So like, do you have maybe like borderline personality disorder or something like this?
	I went to a site.
	Like, I got diagnosed when I was 15 with a couple of things, but I only went to my therapist like twice.
	And then I stopped going because I don't believe in like taking.
	What do they diagnose you with?
	At the time, like I said, I only went twice.
	They diagnosed me with severe anxiety and depression.
	And I think that, yeah, that was it.
	That's all they.
	But they gave me like antipsychotic meds and like a bunch of weird stuff.
	It was not, the meds that they gave me didn't match up with the like the stuff, the diagnosis that they gave me.
	So I also stopped taking my meds because I just feel like taking meds every day to 15 to try to fix yourself is not great.
	And it kind of led me into a bad situation because I didn't, I was, I wasn't moderating myself and I wasn't having anyone watching me and I kind of fucked that up on my for myself.
	So I try to stay away from like going.
	I haven't been to a therapist since because I don't want to like go get a diagnostic diagnosis and then like have them be like, you should take this pill or you should do this and kind of thing, you know?
	Okay.
	Let's see what the other notes are one sec.
	I'm getting it back pulled up.
	Oh, and no, I think that's it.
	So, you lack empathy, basically?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Let me get into my notes here.
	Why don't we do Bellin?
	Is that Bella?
	Bella.
	Okay, I'm just going off your IG thing.
	You said you want to talk about a very funny and particular relationship that you've had in recent years.
	It was always an open relationship with a lot of passion and loyalty.
	Above all, that person is.
	Oh, I don't know.
	Me.
	Oh, okay.
	That's you?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Maquidano?
	Huh?
	Oh, no, I must have got my shit mixed up.
	This is so cute.
	So I'll repeat it again, please.
	So, okay, you were in an open relationship.
	I was, yes, I was.
	So you were like having sex with other men?
	I mean, when I was in that open relationship, I find my boyfriend, you know?
	And that time, when I find that my boyfriend, I decided to be with my boyfriend, and the other generation shit is still open.
	And that is the why too.
	I give it to him, one of my best friends, and they start to be together.
	But in the time when they were together, she takes it so personal.
	I don't know.
	She's insecurity, ungrateful.
	And she doesn't know handle the situation because she's getting jealous and everything like that.
	But we broke out.
	We don't have anything no more because I decided to be with my boyfriend who cheated me three times.
	So I don't have an open relationship.
	I don't have no boyfriend.
	And I don't know what will be happening with me.
	But I still believe in love.
	I still believe in the people for real when they went to be engaged.
	And yes, why not?
	I work out a lot about my insecurities, my time when I was alone and everything.
	Why not?
	I still believe in love and God and all the beautiful things can help me.
	Going to Bella here.
	Bella, you said you're Bella, right?
	Yeah.
	Are you.
	She's Evelyn?
	Evelyn.
	I'm Bella.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You said you dated.
	You told us a little bit about this.
	You dated the man who fell in love with you at 20 but had to flee to Mexico to avoid doing life in prison.
	Or you didn't tell us about that.
	That's a different guy.
	Huh?
	Wait, so you fell in love with a guy when you were 20?
	Yes.
	Or was he 20?
	I met him at 18.
	And I kind of like, I never really had like a full relationship with him.
	But when I was 20, he this guy has been in love with me still to this day.
	Like he'll message me on WhatsApp and he'll be like, what are you coming to Mexico?
	Like he was a very heavy person.
	So he got his house, one of his houses, he had multiple houses, one in Santa Rosa, one in Vegas.
	And his house in Vegas got raided and he was going to do life.
	And so he was like, flee to Mexico with me.
	And I had the choice to give up, you know, working and doing what I do now.
	And I could just be living off of him in Mexico, like freaking rough.
	Do life for what?
	Yeah, what was he arrested for?
	Pharmaceutical things.
	Okay, selling drugs.
	Yeah.
	Was he like gang-affiliated?
	No.
	Well, I don't know.
	I see, I don't know that far into his thing.
	He would always protect me from knowing further into what he was doing.
	I just know he was a heavy hitter.
	What do you mean, heavy hitter?
	He was like.
	He was a top guy of the fucking.
	Oh, so he's in the gang.
	He was running the whole circus.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Pretty much, yeah.
	Because the United States and Mexico have extradition treaties between each other.
	Well, I don't know the further details, and I don't care.
	I don't know the further details, and I don't care.
	Just honestly, it was like, look, I could leave with this guy and be living off of him and not pay anything for life.
	But I was just not attracted to him.
	And then here I am.
	Yeah, so he was maybe facing life in prison for the crimes he had committed.
	He flew to Mexico and he wanted you to come with him.
	And then you also wrote, Now here I am in the States working and paying my own bills, rethinking that off.
	Exactly.
	Because it's so funny.
	He did get remarried and everything in Mexico.
	And the girl, the new wife, like found me on Facebook.
	Mind you, I do not use Facebook at all.
	I only use it to keep up with my aunts or like family over there.
	But this girl looked me up.
	She was so concerned about me that she found me on Facebook.
	And then two years after I lost contact with him, he was like, if she adds you, don't approve her request.
	And I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
	And then after that, he kind of used that message of warning me not to add his new wife to kind of try to get me to meet him in Mexico to hang out.
	But he'll try to hang out with me.
	I just don't entertain it anymore.
	You said that one thing you've always misunderstood is if men feel intimidated by alpha women.
	Yes.
	Some men are not attracted to either women making as much or more money than them.
	So these are a little related.
	Do you consider yourself an alpha woman?
	Yes.
	Going around the table, do you consider yourself an alpha woman?
	Yeah, no.
	I yet know.
	Okay.
	I don't even know.
	I make money.
	Are you an alpha female?
	I don't like that word.
	Alpha female.
	Abigail, are you alpha abigail?
	I mean, that was, I guess that's my way of wording it, but I like to call the shots.
	Independent.
	Do you like to peg dudes?
	No.
	No, I just, you know, I don't, I'm not as submissive as other women.
	I guess.
	And then I make my own money.
	So if a guy comes over here and tries to, you know, lure me in with money, yes, it's cool enough, but if they don't treat me good, like, I can take myself out.
	I can, you know.
	Well, let's stick with that.
	It's part of treating you good, letting you call the shots.
	Huh?
	It's part of treating you good, letting you call the shots.
	I like a guy that lets me do whatever I want.
	So other dudes?
	No.
	No, I just keep letting you do whatever.
	Whatever makes Bella happy is going to happen.
	So what would be like, give us three examples of like a scenario where a guy would let you do whatever you want that makes you happy.
	If I want to buy stuff and he says no, then I don't like it.
	I don't like it.
	Buy stuff with your own money.
	How about this?
	Well, if I want to do something...
	Do you go to the club?
	Did you go to the club?
	Not really.
	Sometimes.
	Bars, yes.
	So, okay, he's like, I don't want you to go to the club.
	Then I will most likely go to the club.
	I don't know.
	I just, I like to do whatever I want.
	So when I feel like I'm caged in.
	Has a guy ever said, I don't like the way you're dressing?
	Yes, my ex.
	He's Persian.
	He was very like, don't show tits.
	And did you, anyways?
	Yeah.
	Sometimes I did, and I'd be like, I'm not doing anything.
	Just because I'm dressed a certain way doesn't mean I'm doing anything.
	Okay.
	Alpha woman.
	Are you an alpha woman?
	I don't think so.
	Okay.
	I'm an alpha human, regardless of my gender.
	I think I'd be alpha human.
	I think regardless of my gender, I would be alpha.
	So.
	Okay, then are you just your alpha then?
	Okay.
	I don't think it's separated by like masculine or feminine traits.
	It's just a set of traits.
	It's more so just having willpower and discernment over your life, right?
	No.
	I think it has more to do with the dynamic between you and the male.
	Oh.
	So if the man is telling you to do something, like in this case, if he's saying, don't go out in that, that dress is too provocative, like be more modest, would that be a huge trigger for you?
	I wouldn't be triggered, but I have always dressed kind of promiscuous, so it would be weird to care now.
	Okay, what about you?
	Are you alpha?
	No, but there's like different ones.
	So there's dominant and submissive, and that's different than like alpha, and then there's like omega and things like that.
	And then I was researching it this summer because I was one of those women types, but it wasn't the alpha one.
	It was the one that was Alpha, Omega.
	Well, there's like a Sigma female.
	Yeah, yeah, I was in the middle of the six.
	She's a fucking Sigma boy.
	Yeah, yeah, I was in the Sigma.
	She's a Sigma female.
	Whatever it made sense to me, though.
	It made sense to me.
	Wait, where is it?
	When I watched it.
	Because I found out who everyone I knew was.
	Let's see if I can find the.
	I didn't really associate with Alpha because they care too much about being all big and stuff.
	Sigma is like, eh, be real and I feel things that are good for others.
	Word.
	That's cool.
	Okay, question about the dynamic, though.
	So if my partner asked me not to do something, I would not do it out of respect for them, but they would do the same for me.
	So how does that work in terms of who's alpha?
	Yeah, I think that it's going to come down to ultimately how many of those discussions are you having?
	You know, is he constantly getting on you for specific things and telling you not to do specific things?
	And how willingly are you giving into them?
	Is also a factor as well.
	Okay, alpha.
	There's an impast.
	If there's an impast, who's the decider?
	Yeah.
	I think of furry.
	So I didn't have like boyfriends, but when I'm with a guy, like, and he's an older guy, like my first guy was like 60s, and I would spend the whole summer with him.
	I would just try to like be good.
	I was just trying to be good.
	So like I would do, like, what do you want it?
	So.
	60 years old?
	Yeah.
	My mom was okay with it.
	How old were you?
	This is like a year or two ago.
	So I like.
	But he's more like a mentor.
	Like, I respect him.
	So.
	Your 60-year-old boyfriend?
	I respect him, so I learned from him.
	He wasn't a boyfriend, no.
	He never said it was like that.
	Was he one of the limp liberals that you told her?
	No, because he was more like a Scientology guy.
	Oh, okay.
	Wait, what?
	So it was more like a cult thing, and then that was, I had to get rid of it.
	I had to stop.
	I had to stop that one.
	You got into the Scientology female.
	I got away from it.
	I got away from it.
	I'm gone.
	Wow.
	And I've volunteered.
	That's scary.
	That's cool.
	Are you an alpha female into the mic?
	No.
	I'm sorry, repeat again.
	Are you an alpha female?
	I am between.
	I am in between.
	She's in between.
	Yes.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm kind of with her on that.
	Like, it's always been different with everyone I've been with.
	Like, there's been situations I have been, and then situations where I'm not.
	Do you think it has to do with the man?
	Maybe, yeah, that might be the case.
	Because if someone's a limp liberal, I mean, I don't really see the female has to take on the role.
	It's like, no, I meant like when it's a liberal, you got to go a lot harder to get hard.
	I was like, okay.
	No.
	All right.
	Some men are not attracted to either women making as much or more money than them.
	I guess.
	I don't think men are intimidated by alpha women.
	We just don't want to deal with you.
	We just don't want to deal with the headache.
	Yeah.
	Oh, you're not going to listen to what I say?
	Okay.
	I'm like, Don't you know?
	I'm not intimidated.
	I'm just like, you're just annoying.
	Not you.
	I like Don.
	You're not.
	Many of you don't have that many disagreements, but it's just a mutual, beneficial.
	You guys just like you're in a mutually beneficial relationship and you both communicate about wants, needs, and goals and work on them together.
	Yeah, but somebody has to lead.
	Somebody has to be.
	Yeah, for example, in her relationship, the guy was not.
	He was very insecure.
	Yeah, he wasn't the alpha male because pretty much what he was saying is he's saying, don't dress like that.
	And then she would do it anyways, and they would stay in the room.
	Yeah, and then later on, like, he would be the type to message my friends.
	That's kind of what I mean by liberal.
	And the younger, like, mind you, this guy's like 44.
	He wanted to live a whole like bachelor, 21, 22 years old.
	That's where I was like, wait, so you're telling me I can't show a little bit of skin, but you're over there messaging 21, 22 year olds.
	Mind you, you're 44.
	While you're in a relationship in between and after, you know, after, he would still message me.
	He'd still be in my DMs.
	He'd still text guys that I started dating.
	And then he'd be like, he'd be like, oh, I hope you're doing great.
	I'm like, bro, leave me alone.
	If you see me dating a guy, do not message him.
	Please.
	Please don't message him.
	And he was still messaging.
	Mind you, he's messaging my friends that are like 22, 21.
	And that's weird.
	Okay.
	We're going to get back into some of the other show notes.
	We have Adriana here.
	Adriana, in your Instagram, it says, the girl with the chocolate chip cookie addiction, are you addicted to chocolate chips?
	And also, why did you not bring some to the studio?
	I actually did.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, just for me, though.
	Sorry, guys.
	Yeah, I bake them every night.
	You make chocolate chip cookies every night.
	Yeah, I bake four every night before I go to bed.
	I can't sleep without them.
	Do you eat them?
	I eat them.
	Like as you're sleeping, like you're just right before bed.
	Like, I can't sleep until I eat my chocolate chip cookies.
	Eat four chocolate chip cookies.
	Four.
	Before bed.
	Yes.
	With milk?
	With milk.
	It has to have.
	What if you did three?
	Three's not enough.
	It won't help me sleep.
	I need four.
	Did you put pot in them or something?
	What do you mean?
	No.
	They're just regular chocolate chips.
	I've just always been that way.
	Like since I was like 13, I've just been like.
	That's a lot of calories.
	Well, I dance a lot.
	So I burned it.
	You're drinking all the meal?
	You're drinking all the meal?
	I'm like a full glass of milk.
	Yeah.
	Oh, my God.
	Can you do five?
	I can.
	I used to.
	So fun fact, I actually used to do a full batch, but then I realized how unhealthy it was for me.
	And my grandma had a heart attack.
	So I was like, okay, let me chill.
	Like, let me start eating healthier.
	You are addicted to chocolate.
	So I cut down to six and then I cut down to four.
	She's a great candidate for my strange addiction.
	I mean, that's kind of like that's kind of you can ask all my friends.
	I make the best homemade chips.
	Are they good?
	Wow, you did.
	You should have brought us.
	I didn't think it would be brought up.
	Of course it is.
	I mean, you should.
	Wow.
	I mean, I'm kind of a fan of the children.
	You should have brought us all home.
	You should have brought us.
	I actually dressed as a Pillsbury Doughboy last Halloween.
	Oh my goodness.
	Wait, hold on.
	I carry chocolate chip cookies with me off.
	Hold on.
	Now we got to get into this.
	So do you have like, is this like a kink?
	I don't think it's a kink.
	It's just like going to be a bad thing.
	Like, has a guy ever been like, I want to have sex with you while you're eating chocolate chip cookies?
	Wow.
	And I mean, I mean, be truthful.
	Have you had sex while eating chocolate chip cookies?
	No, but I'll eat them after.
	Post-sex chocolate chip cookies.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Right.
	What if a guy wanted to dress up as a chocolate chip cookie?
	Eat him up.
	He really wants me to eat kinky.
	That's that's really.
	I never thought of it as a kinky thing.
	It was just, it's my own thing.
	Like, it's my own thing.
	It's like the thing to myself, like, if I share it with someone else, it's just like, it's not the same.
	It's just like, it's just a thing for me that keeps me grounded and happy and satisfied.
	All right.
	You said you dated the guy who got your social security number?
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	So I met him at the club.
	That was probably the first red flag.
	And he was just, he was so nice.
	He was a provider and he did everything for me and he was sweet talk to me all the time.
	And he went to Miami for like two weeks for work.
	So we would just like talk on the phone a lot while he was working.
	I found out he was actually a hacker and a scammer.
	So he could hack into anyone's Instagram, social media account, bank accounts.
	And then one day we were just like on the phone, kiki, giggling, la da da.
	He's like, yeah, I can find anyone's social security number.
	And I was like, yeah, right.
	Haha, like, so funny.
	He was like, no, like, yours is.
	And I was like.
	Whoa.
	Yeah.
	So you didn't do anything with your social security number.
	What can people do?
	I don't think he'll take out.
	They can do so much.
	He hasn't done anything yet.
	I haven't done anything to piss him off, thankfully.
	Good times.
	All right.
	So I'm just like, you know, always nice to him if he ever reaches back out.
	I'm like, hey, haha.
	You wrote here that hookup culture is too normalized.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	No objections there.
	No objections there.
	You did say that men need to stop thinking that they're the prize or women should earn their loyalty.
	So when you say that, do you mean to say that women are the prize or just what?
	I mean, I wouldn't say that anyone's the prize.
	I feel like in a relationship, you two should be treated as equal.
	But I feel like men, some men think that they are like, need to be put on a throne and women need to do everything and anything for them and then not reciprocate anything back.
	And that's just not.
	Yeah, those guys sound fucking.
	A relationship should have respect.
	You know?
	Should be equal.
	Yeah, you should have respect for people.
	Well, it should be equal.
	In certain cases, if it's like not like a thing like this, you know.
	I kind of think that men are the prize, though.
	I do too.
	Of course.
	Why?
	Well, so not all men are the prize, of course.
	But like, I think typically, one, I think relationships tend to work better when the woman likes the man more than the man likes the woman.
	Because like, girls, right?
	If the dude's simping, if the dude's simping and doing too much, like, you lose attraction.
	All of you guys, like, a lot of you guys are chasing after.
	Like, let me ask you guys a question.
	And maybe it's not the case for some of you, but the guy that you really want, does he want you?
	Have you had that experience?
	Yeah.
	And not want you in.
	I would have.
	If you got him.
	Would he be the prize?
	The guy that you really, really want.
	He would be the prize.
	Well, I mean, vice versa as well.
	Right.
	Whereas I do think it's the case that with men, like it's a better dynamic if the girl's kind of simping on us.
	Yeah, well, to follow that up, like, all of you who said that you had a guy who you really, really wanted, right?
	Can you just give me a show of hands if the desirable trait was that you thought he was going to treat you equally?
	That's why you desired him.
	No.
	Wait, I don't know.
	Go ahead.
	Raise it by a show of hands.
	If I can.
	Can you repeat the line?
	I know, I don't.
	Don't look confused.
	Is the reason that you desired this man because you thought he was going to treat you equally?
	Was that the trait that made you desire him?
	Emotionally and physically?
	That's a great question.
	Because men and women, I feel like.
	Yeah, whatever you think, however you think equal, whatever equal means to you, was the reason you desired this man because he was going to treat you equally.
	Yeah.
	That's the reason why you desired him.
	I mean, not necessarily the only reason, but there could be one of the factors that you're doing.
	Yeah.
	I mean, there's not only one reason.
	Attractive, asking is the primary trait of why you desired this man because you thought he was going to treat you equally.
	Oh, you want a dynamic.
	That makes it interesting.
	I feel like the man should treat you better than you're treating him.
	To like keep staying it.
	The imaginary trait of this man that you desired was that you thought he was going to treat you better than you treated him.
	Like, no, no, that sounds awful.
	That was the like.
	I mean, for me, that wasn't even anything I considered.
	Like, I just genuinely liked him as a person.
	So, like, it's not something like, oh, like, I like him because he's going to treat me good.
	Like, it's not something I thought about.
	Right, exactly.
	It's not, it's not an equal social media.
	But then, once they, if they don't treat you good, I'm like, okay, now I don't like you.
	Like, it's not like a determining thing.
	No, they can treat you not good, though, but it makes you want to work with them.
	But it's interesting that the desirable trait.
	The thing that makes you desire it, or this person, is not, it's not in your brain that the reason I desire them is because they're going to treat me equally.
	That's not what is moving you towards the desiring of the person.
	That's the point.
	So that's why Brian thinks that men are the prize because if you desire them and you want to get them and it's not in your head that are going to treat me equally, then they would be the prize, right?
	I think women are more emotional, and, like, we tend to, like, overthink more.
	So I think to stay in the relationship, men should, like...
	I do not believe women overthink.
	Yeah, I like to be told what to do, because I don't have to make the decision.
	I think women underthink.
	Okay.
	Almost always.
	Well, I think men should like the women more than the women like the man.
	Because then, I don't know.
	For like personal preference.
	I mean, you can totally fact check me if I'm wrong.
	This is something I heard.
	I don't even know if it's completely accurate, but I have heard that relationships do better when the guy is treating the girl right.
	I could be totally wrong, but that's just what I've heard.
	Yeah, which ones?
	Like all the big celeb relationships, when they're all crumbling, it's always like, I did everything I could for her.
	He treated her like gold, and she's just like, well, he wasn't, he wasn't fulfilling this.
	I didn't care.
	Because they need to respect the person.
	They didn't feel very fucking fulfilled, right?
	It's never like, oh, there was all these horrible things going on.
	It was like, I just wasn't fulfilled.
	And he's like, well, I did everything I possibly could to fulfill her needs.
	It seems like if one party is more into the other party, right?
	In this case, the woman is more into the man, they seem to be more likely to stick around with the man.
	No, I feel like he's a little bit more than he liked me and then we got choosed on.
	We'll run an experiment right here, okay?
	We'll see if this is the case or not.
	Would you prefer to have a man who could walk away from you anytime that they wanted?
	Or would you prefer to have a man that couldn't?
	Not that he would.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Not that he will walk away from you anytime.
	Just that he could.
	Would you rather have a man who could walk away from you anytime, or would you rather have a man that couldn't?
	And he always chooses me?
	Yeah, he chooses you.
	Yeah, if it's, but he could walk away, right?
	Would you rather have that or a man who couldn't?
	Like you're saying, as a man who couldn't, you're saying as far as like, you're the only option.
	Yeah, but you're it.
	I mean, I guess could, but.
	Yeah, could, right?
	I would, like, no, but like, who here would pick couldn't?
	But like, at the same time, having someone.
	Hang on, raise your hand if you would pick couldn't.
	I feel like someone having someone who couldn't.
	Not one of you would pick couldn't.
	So you would have to.
	Having someone who could walk away.
	Having someone who couldn't, it would give you like the security.
	Like it wouldn't give you like the fear and anxiety that someone's going to leave you.
	Then why would you pick the one that could?
	I don't know.
	I don't know what it would pick.
	It's inherently.
	It's in your DNA.
	If a guy wants to leave, he can leave.
	Don't care.
	Have you ever?
	But that's not the question.
	So, yeah, have you ever lost attraction for someone because they were so into you?
	No.
	Like, they were so into you that it was almost a turnoff.
	They were like, I need to get it.
	I think in like middle school.
	Like, like, middle school, like, freshman year, but he was like really, really into me.
	I think that that happens with most girls.
	I think most girls get turned off when a guy is super, super head over heels for them and they understand that they pretty much have all of the power in the relationship and that he's really not going anywhere.
	That's where I've actually seen a lot of relationships fall apart is in that situation.
	I think the guy, like having the choice to leave or having the ability to leave the relationship, is what ultimately keeps most relationships healthy.
	What keeps you in the middle of the main relationship is basically that you would prefer to have men that other women desired versus having a man that no other woman except you desired.
	I think people like having things that other people want.
	Is that a good way to put it?
	I will tell you that it is a lot different as a man walking around.
	If you're around attractive females, other women will automatically start reaching out to you more.
	And if you are in a relationship, you will actually get reached out to a lot more.
	There's something, I think it's called like the boyfriend effect or the girlfriend effect, where girls always want you more when you're in a relationship.
	And it's actually a lot of their friends.
	Yeah, I agree.
	It's because girls see that and they get jealous.
	They want same with guys too.
	Yeah, same with guys.
	It does happen.
	It does happen.
	It happens a lot.
	I've heard guys would wear like single guys would wear rings to the bar and then a lot of women would approach that.
	Wait, hit up.
	So here's the problem in reverse, right?
	It's like every guy who's with a girl, that girl's going to be desired by other men and that's a known.
	It doesn't even matter who the girl is, right?
	She could be like some like 400-pound wilder beast and some other men are still going to desire her.
	But that is not the case for men, right?
	It's not the case for men that other women are going to desire him.
	And so women have that as an advantage and men don't.
	That's why men who are desired by many women think of themselves as surprised because they think that women who are desired by many men aren't because, well, having sex with a man for a woman is usually just as easy as presenting yourself or for it, right?
	Also, not even more complex than that.
	Also, if we can even look at this somewhat mathematically, do you guys think, and I'm talking like in total, so like looks, personality, everything combined?
	Do you think that there are more women who are attractive or more like more men who are attractive?
	Women.
	Women.
	Like there's way more attractive women.
	Yeah.
	So if there's a smaller pool of like generally attractive men than just the math, like there's men are going to be the prize then.
	Like if you're saying no, if you're saying no to 90% of guys and guys only say no to 50% of women, then the guy who you are willing to get with, he's the prize.
	When you say attractive, do you mean purely physical or like in total?
	Okay.
	So I mean, I would argue that just on the physical basis, most women find like very few men physically attractive.
	Maybe not very few, but it's a small minority.
	Like most maybe you think 10% of men are physically attractive.
	I like personality.
	And then you got to actually like the guy after that.
	So like that reduces it down even more.
	Whereas men, like, when it comes to looks, they actually did this analysis of dating apps.
	So, men rate women on a bell curve when it comes to physical attractiveness.
	Women are like super harsh judges of physical attractiveness.
	So, maybe I don't think it's necessary to pull that up, but I mean, women are harsher on women too, though.
	It's just our nature, I guess.
	We have a lot more discerning.
	I think we're just judgmental.
	Yeah, we're just judgmental.
	We're very harsh.
	Yeah, it's our survivor skills.
	And plus now, we are indicated about princesmans.
	And we are indicating princesmans.
	Yes.
	Oh, she doesn't text me.
	I don't text her back.
	She doesn't look for me.
	I don't look for her.
	She doesn't invite me anything.
	I don't will biting her anything.
	So it's almost like men don't try anymore.
	No.
	No.
	Pretty harsh on other women when it comes to looks.
	Yes.
	Can you repeat the question?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Do all of you agree that women are usually pretty harsh on other women when it comes to looks?
	Yeah.
	Women are harsher on everyone when it comes to looks.
	Everything.
	Yeah, I would tend to agree.
	Do you think that women tend to be pretty honest, though?
	Honest?
	Honest?
	Yeah.
	Not to other people.
	Well, I think they think they're being honest, but I think a lot of people just don't know what they want truly.
	They say one thing, but I don't know if people truly know what they want.
	Yes, I feel like I'm pretty honest.
	Can you just, by a show of hands, real quick at the table.
	Who here thinks women are generally pretty honest?
	Okay.
	And who here thinks that women generally judge each other's looks pretty harshly?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So how many of you, by a show of hands when you sat down at this table, judge other women harshly?
	I judge everyone here harshly about that.
	There's one honesty.
	Sorry, I judge everyone here harshly about that.
	I like we are judging.
	I appreciate it.
	Everybody looks good.
	I judge everyone here, though, not just the women.
	You judge everybody?
	I like everybody here.
	As far as truth, though, I think it's easier for me to tell guys the truth than girls the truth sometimes because it's kind of like I feel like I'm judged harsher by girls.
	I judge myself.
	That's why I don't want to have children.
	Like in general, you feel like there's some sort of game going on with girls sometimes.
	I don't know.
	I think girls are gone.
	You can see it on social media.
	A lot of girls lie to each other at comment sections.
	I got pushed into the game.
	I scratched this.
	I deal with a lot of girls doing the casting stuff and I've seen it on everything.
	So I know how it works.
	Like that woman at the car plays.
	You know, that was just one example.
	That's terrible.
	I did have a question kind of related to what Andrew was saying.
	I'm trying to find it here really quick.
	What is it, though?
	Huh, I can't find it.
	Well, whatever.
	We'll get back into the.
	Actually, we got some messages here.
	We got one from Lucas.
	So if I'm 6'4, 235 pounds, and fit, and a partner at a New York City big law firm, I'll let you guys take guesses on the compensation.
	What percent of me exists out there, and what percent of you exist out there?
	It's a simple supply demand.
	He has one follow-up here.
	Thank you, Lucas, for the messages.
	I do appreciate it.
	What?
	Okay.
	And then we have Lucas.
	No, the woman needs to, the woman needs to be the adorer because she gets and needs to have the emotional experience by being the one she loves.
	Props and attribution to Dr. Orion Taraban for this one.
	We've had him on the show twice.
	Legend.
	Great guy.
	Yeah, so he kind of creates this dynamic of there's the adoree and the adorer.
	So the adorer is the one who's like feeling it more than the adoree.
	And basically his position is as a man, it's better to be the one who's adored than being the adorer.
	So yeah, I don't know if there's any disagreements on that, but we pretty much already.
	I always just say, because this is what I learned in school, biologically speaking, even if you go back way back in the day, the 1500s or whatever, it's usually the guy seeking the woman.
	In the 1500s?
	Yeah, and other species, like birds.
	I'm pretty sure they had arranged marriages back then.
	No, like, I don't know.
	You are correct.
	Like, the birds, like, birds are always like doing a dance to like prove to like the woman that they're worthy of being the spouse.
	Like, a lot of species, it's the male trying to court the female.
	Well, no, I mean, in the animal kingdom, for instance, there's one male lion and he humps all the chicks in the pride.
	I mean, that's just the way it works.
	I'm not saying all, but there's some.
	Yeah, well, yeah.
	So, I mean, that's not very comparable to say like behavior in animals.
	I can give you behavior, tons of animals where the women are basically just disposable to the men.
	Like, non-stop, they're just disposable.
	But when it comes to humans, are you talking about the 1500?
	Like, you make a valid point.
	Women, or men, did used to be the pursuers of women more than anything until women demanded equality.
	And so, what's happened is chivalry has continued for actually no good reason.
	And now men have realized, well, wait a second, why the fuck are we doing chivalry if there's equality?
	So, if you do chivalry, there's supposed to be additional authority, right?
	So, we're going, we're protecting women, we're doing this for women.
	Women are put in a status.
	They have a certain status in society.
	They have less authority, but they have a higher status.
	But now, they want equal status.
	So, it's like, well, if you have equal status, what the fuck are we doing chivalry for?
	That's stupid, right?
	That doesn't make any sense.
	Why buy the flowers and the candy and do the pursuing and this and that if there's no additional status?
	Like, what's the point?
	So, you do, so you're chivalrous, chivalrous.
	I don't know, I'm not bad.
	I'm not chivalrous.
	I gotta get it, right?
	Yeah, what he said.
	So, you do that just so you can have control over someone.
	That's what you're saying.
	If you didn't have control, well, I'm not sure what I did of the correct way to look at it.
	I'll explain it to you.
	So, if women have a status, a certain status in society, okay, you say, oh, well, it's control.
	I'm like, well, not really, because ultimately, they didn't have to fight the wars.
	They didn't have to do any of that shit, right?
	They didn't have to do any of it.
	So, they actually had a higher social status than men did.
	They were the first ones who get on the lifeboats.
	The women and the children, the men stay on and go down with a ship.
	They were the ones, et cetera, et cetera.
	I mean, I give you example after example after example, which puts women at a protected status.
	So, they actually have a higher status than men historically.
	I would consider that a higher status.
	Like, if you have to die before I have to die, I think that that means that I have the higher protect or social status.
	If you have to die in my stead, your status is higher than mine.
	But if you remove that and say, now our status is equal across the board, then what the hell am I dying for?
	I don't get it.
	So, you're telling me that you're not in the military because women can be in the military now?
	Well, no, women can't go into combat in the military.
	Well, they can be in fields of the military, whether it's not.
	So, you're telling me they can't die because you're not in combat?
	They're good at signing paychecks, but they're not in the military doing all the bang-bang combat, blow people up stuff.
	But neither are you.
	So, why is it fair for you to do?
	Why is he doing that?
	Yeah, men, not you particularly.
	So, why is it fair for you to ask?
	We're not talking about me.
	We're not talking about you.
	We're talking about men and we're talking about women.
	Isn't there, okay, isn't there a hierarchy to chivalry for everyone, though?
	Like, men protect women, women protect elderly and children.
	You know what I mean?
	So, like, if something happens and all the men got obliterated in here, what do men get?
	What do men get?
	What are we talking about?
	Basically, because women want to have a woman, hang on, let her answer.
	Let her answer.
	Women who want to get to the house.
	What do men now get?
	I can tell you what they got.
	What they got was chaste, virtuous, virgin women.
	That's what they got.
	So, hang on, hang on.
	What they got was chaste, virtuous, virgin women.
	Okay, that's what they got.
	And the status of those women was to be high and protected.
	And if any man were to come across and do things untowards towards women, you would challenge him to duels and fight to the death in the street and literally kill other men over the fact that they besmirched a woman's honor, right?
	That's a really high tier of social status.
	Well, what do men get now?
	What do we give them?
	I want them to.
	Why do they have to get something, though?
	Is chivalry only necessary if there's a transactional thing, or can you just be able to get to the center of the world?
	Yeah, well, otherwise, it just creates respectful society.
	So, I'll answer your question.
	Yes, it is.
	It is, in this case, it would be transactional because you're just asking for a higher sense of social status that you don't actually deserve.
	You're not giving anything for it.
	Like, what are you giving to actually have the door open for you?
	What are you giving to for men to go down with the ships and you to get the lifeboat?
	Like, what is it that you're giving now?
	You're not giving anything.
	So, you're just demanding a higher form of social status, and men are like, no, that's not equality.
	That's the opposite of equality.
	Do you want me to actually answer?
	Yeah.
	I, well, let's say in this hypothetical boat situation where we're all going down with the ship and we have to decide.
	I, because I'm not planning on having children, I would probably just stay back and let other people go.
	Like, I don't, I think it just depends on person to person, if that makes sense.
	Like, I am totally fine with being disposable, not having legacy, so I wouldn't need to go above other people that care to do those things.
	So, why should you get chivalry?
	Well, because you should be respectful.
	Like, I would be chivalrous to an elderly or a child.
	Why couldn't I treat just like other women treat you, which is not in a chivalrous way?
	Isn't that equal?
	I think from a biological perspective, women are the ones who are not.
	Let her answer.
	The sisterhood is a good idea.
	No, because I'm bouncing off of what she's saying.
	I know, but can you let her answer my question before you chime in?
	So, back to this: so, why do you deserve chivalry?
	Why?
	Well, this is probably going to get a whole can of worms, but I do think that there's a physical aspect of a man's physically stronger than me.
	I'm probably physically stronger than most elderly people and children.
	So, it's that's that's my general hierarchy, but everyone.
	Why does that mean that you deserve chivalry?
	I don't get it.
	Well, because what, okay, in a duel, for example, why would I fight my own duel?
	Yeah, but why should anybody fight your duel for you?
	Because there should be a general code of chivalry in society if there's.
	Why?
	That's what they that's just begging the question.
	It should be because it should be because it should be.
	It's like, why, though?
	Like, because we're all humans on this earth.
	If you have a higher social status where you're not allowed to punch women because they have this social status in society, that's chivalrous, right?
	If they hit you, you can't hit them back.
	Well, that's gone with equality.
	When you demand egalitarianism and equality, if men hit men and the social expectations that they get hit back, that's going to be the same exact thing for women now.
	That's real equality.
	That's what you're demanding: is that the social status go to that?
	So, why is it if you hit a man, you don't deserve to get hit back?
	Tell me why.
	Give me a real reason why.
	Well, because the man would probably be significantly stronger than me.
	The level of damage done is different.
	So, you're saying that if weaker men attack stronger men, which is always the case, there's always one weaker than the other.
	A stronger man is not justified, the stronger man is not justified in punching him back.
	That doesn't sound ridiculous to you.
	They can punch each other back, but someone else should defend that man that can't defend himself because that's chivalrous.
	So, if you attack a man, right, you can't say, oh, but I'm weaker.
	You're equal.
	Do you know what equality means?
	Equality means if even if you're weaker and you attack someone stronger, who cares?
	You get the same consequence because it's equal.
	I guess that's true.
	I'm more about pro-equity than equality.
	So, you're right, I misspoke.
	We should all just be allowed to punch each other.
	When you're talking about our lives, you get a punch, you get a punch.
	Equity is bringing up the same problem.
	No, because you're.
	I'm so confused.
	Okay, let's backtrack.
	Then I'm dumb and define equity versus equality for me because I don't see how they're the same thing.
	Well, don't you guys always use the box argument?
	The what?
	It's not that a shorter person, the equality is that the shorter person is as tall as the taller person.
	Equity would be if you, if you're both looking over the fence, the shorter person can't see, you put a box down so that the shorter person can stand on the box, and now both of you can see over the fence.
	Okay, we'll go with that example.
	Do you agree that that's a good explanation or descriptor for equity?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but that's not equality, then, right?
	Why shouldn't I get the same-size box?
	Yeah, that's why I said you're right, and I believe in equity over equality.
	So, what you're doing is demanding that there be a social class based on the fact that you're not as good as other people or you don't think you are.
	Yeah, that's true.
	I think that we should protect other people and help each other.
	You know, you should always help your howling.
	Yeah, and so what I mean.
	What do you say is, well, screw that.
	That's a violation of the social contract.
	You demanded equality.
	You said that you wanted political equality.
	You said that you wanted equality in the military.
	You say that you want equality in all social categories, but now you demand this thing called equity, which is saying, Well, actually, even if we are equal, we're still a disadvantage from you, and so we still need further things given to us, which now it's not equal then.
	Now it's you're a perpetual victim class.
	So it's like you got to make up your mind.
	But were people really asking for equality, the equal amount of everything?
	Or were people asking for the opportunity to pursue rights that they didn't have?
	Okay, rights equal to who?
	Legal rights equal for everyone of like age, race.
	So that would be equal, right?
	So when you ask for political rights, that's equal opportunity.
	That's the same political rights I have, right?
	The opportunity to engage in those political rights if I want to, but if I don't want to, I also have that choice not to.
	And that's exactly what I can do, right?
	Yeah.
	No, that's equality.
	So you're equal.
	So when you demand equity, you're actually demanding that there be a social class, that it be a social class system, and that you be part of a social class, which is now a protected social class.
	Men say, well, wait a second, that's not equality.
	That's not what you were demanding.
	So why is it that we should give you the equity when we don't get any additional authority?
	Why?
	That's not fair.
	I guess you don't have to, but chivalry being transactional is kind of a dick move.
	So I guess you just should.
	Great argument.
	I think it's kind of a bitch move to request that people give you social status when you don't deserve it.
	Like, what do you do to deserve this social status exactly, other than you just want it?
	I don't know if most people are demanding a social status, though.
	I think they're demanding equality.
	What is chivalry?
	Chivalry is the expectation that you have certain social statuses based on the fact that you're a female.
	That's all it is.
	I'm going to look it up.
	I'm going to look at the dictionary definition.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	How do you have a phone?
	I could be playing Roblox right now.
	Well, because I'm going to ask him about his peer research later, but they didn't tell me I could do that yet.
	Hey, yo, how did she get a phone?
	I would have been Googling it.
	I would have been Googling all kinds of stuff.
	Well, control conversations.
	I feel like women offer an emotional and more comforting.
	Like, men are strong.
	Like, men are meant to be the muscle, I feel like, and women are meant to be the caretakers and the protectors.
	I feel like that's what women offer.
	Not the protector, sorry.
	Yeah, no side combos.
	Okay, social media.
	Otherwise, the audience can't actually hear when people are talking.
	So go ahead and hear that.
	Okay, repeat yourself.
	Sorry.
	I said, I feel like the men are the muscle, like the protector, and the women are the caretaker.
	That's what women have to offer.
	We're gentle, we're kind, we have more of like an emotional connection.
	Can I bounce off of what you're saying?
	Yes.
	Women are the one who provide, I mean, like, from a biological perspective, women provide the babies.
	Women are the ones who have to go through the reproduction and like have to be cared for in that process.
	So I think that's what, like, why a guy should be able to be like the stronger one and be more of the providing one, not 100% the provider, obviously.
	Like, there's.
	And do men have any decision over your reproductive rights, or can you have an abortion?
	What was that question?
	Is the man allowed to say a word about you having an abortion?
	No.
	Why?
	Why would you?
	So then, if that's the case, then even if it is the case that you are the person who's responsible for reproduction, you're also the decider as to whose genes get to reproduce.
	So, again, when you're talking about equality, right, that's not even equitable.
	But not in every situation.
	When you're talking about equality, like, what does this have to do with equality?
	You're the ultimate decider in that category as well as to who is.
	Women aren't always the ultimate decider in that, though.
	Yeah, that's right.
	They are.
	So, again, there's nothing about that that's equitable.
	And when you're talking about equality, you already have that.
	So, why do you deserve chivalry?
	Why do you deserve a status given to you by men simply because you're female if men have no additional authority?
	They get nothing.
	What do they get?
	Can I tell you the definition of chivalry that I agree with based on the dictionary definition?
	Go ahead.
	Okay, the sum of ideal qualifications of a knight, including courtesy, generosity, valor, and dexterity in arms.
	Well, I don't understand.
	If you agree with that, then why are you saying that women deserve chivalry?
	Are you saying that women deserve knights who are great in the category of being good with arms?
	Otherwise, if that's the definition you agree with, then why are you even telling me that women deserve chivalry?
	That makes no sense.
	You don't think that men are supposed to be knights good with swords and shields and shit.
	So, why would you bring up chivalry?
	I think that men should display qualities of courtesy, generosity, and valor without it being transactional.
	And they should do it just because.
	Is that chivalry?
	I mean, it didn't specify whether it's transactional or not, but you're saying that you would only do that.
	I'm asking you, is that chivalry?
	Having qualities of valor.
	Yeah.
	What was the other thing?
	Courtesy?
	Yeah, and generosity, yeah.
	Okay, so then your definition of chivalry and mine are exactly the same.
	You just wanted to change it for the purpose of the argument, but it actually made no sense.
	So if you just say we as women deserve to have X, well, what is that then?
	Is it opening doors for you?
	Is it lifting heavy stuff that you can't lift?
	Is it going and dying in wars on your behalf when you don't have to die on the wars?
	Is it getting in the boat first?
	Is it protecting you and the children first?
	If it is all of those things, tell me what I get.
	I would say, yes, it's all of the above.
	And I wouldn't speak for me explicitly, but I would argue that there's a good amount of women that like to be homemakers, like to work in community, community fundraising, things like that.
	What do I get for you for us to treat you that way?
	What do we get?
	Well, that's what I'm saying.
	You're talking about it explicitly in a transactional way.
	Yeah, what do we get?
	Can you tell me one thing we get for giving you all of that shit?
	What do we get?
	Well, I'm also saying that women should be chivalrous to people underneath them.
	How could you be chivalrous to men?
	Like, what are you going to do?
	Pick up my groceries for me?
	Like, you're not going to do all that shit.
	No, because you're not weaker than me.
	That's the whole context.
	But I would do that first.
	You're just asking for a separate social status, and I want to know what I get for it.
	I want to know what men get.
	What do men get for you getting this social status?
	Why do you have to get something?
	If I do all of those.
	Why should I do anything if I don't get something?
	Let me know when I can finish.
	Let me know when I can finish.
	I'm answering your question.
	You just asked me a question.
	You said, why do things have to be transactional?
	I start answering your question that you want me to, you want to fit.
	Go ahead.
	Tell me, give me the nod when you're done.
	Go ahead.
	So from my understanding, your original question is, what do you get?
	And my statement is you shouldn't have to get anything.
	I would be chivalrous towards someone that needed my help as well.
	What is chivalrous?
	Generosity, things like that.
	So all those things that you said about opening doors, lifting things, et cetera, I would do for an elderly person, a child.
	What is valor?
	I don't know.
	I'd have to look into that more.
	Valor is like fighting off dragons.
	Valor is standing up against the horde.
	I would do that for an elderly person or a child without receiving anything.
	Valor is going to the okay corral when there's 12 different men and only you, right?
	Nobody's giving women these expectations.
	That's insanity.
	No woman anywhere has these expectations.
	And so as soon as you guys have those expectations, fine.
	Then we'll talk about whether or not you deserve your door open.
	You deserve to, you know, for men to go down with a ship and this type of thing.
	But if you demand equality and we get nothing for the equality, then we're going to treat you equally, which means you don't get to punch men.
	You get punched in the face back.
	It means that you get to go down with the ship.
	You get to go fight on the front lines just like men.
	You have to have the same social expectations have to apply to you or we're not equals.
	So if all men disappear tomorrow, women should only be chivalrous to elderly and children if they are getting something from them.
	Is that what you're saying?
	What?
	I'm saying that that would be the case if you're demanding equality.
	If you're saying, no, men and women are ontologically different.
	We have a different sense of being.
	And so we should have a different, unequal social status, then sure.
	Then you can say, if that's the case, we deserve to be protected.
	We don't have the same status.
	But the second you demand that you have the same exact status as men, then it becomes transactional.
	Because otherwise, why should I have the expectation of men that I don't have of you if you say you're my equal?
	That makes no fucking sense.
	I guess I don't understand what the correlation with chivalry and equality has to do.
	Like, so, this is where I'm confused.
	So, by women having the equal opportunity to engage in equal rights under the law, that is somehow going against chivalry.
	Is that what you're also saying?
	No, but I'll reiterate my argument again because it's really simple.
	If you and I are equal, Andrew, you and I are completely equal under the law, under political status, under all categories.
	There is no reason for me not to treat you exactly like an equal, exactly like one.
	I get no additional status by treating you as a protected class or by something which needs to be protected because you're demanding equality with me, not me with you.
	So, if that's the case, what do I get for this idea of, no, not only am I equal with you now, but I get protected status on top of that.
	Like, what the fuck is that?
	That's bullshit.
	That's not equality.
	Okay, so you're all equal under the law, but let's say someone has more traditional values.
	Are you then going to be chivalrous towards them because you might potentially get something from them?
	No.
	If a person who would follow a chivalrous value, like under Christian ethics, a woman, she would not say that she is equal to me.
	She would instead be in a submissive role to me.
	That submissive role would grant her additional statuses that I would not have.
	In exchange for that, I'd have elevated authority.
	This is how it was done all throughout human history.
	So, either you elevate men's authority or you say you're not equals, but the second you say you're equals, you can't demand additional social statuses.
	You can't do that or you're not equal.
	You're demanding non-equality at that point.
	Can you be submissive but pro having the opportunity to do the things you want or be pro letting other people?
	No, you can do, listen, you demand equality, you can do whatever you want, but just don't request additional social statuses.
	Like, men need to be chivalrous, pay for dates, open doors, go down with a ship, go fight your wars.
	Don't demand additional statuses if you say you're equal.
	That makes no sense.
	Either you're equal or you're not equal.
	You can't have it both ways.
	Maybe this might maybe make it a little easier.
	If you're a woman, we've got a couple women here who do OnlyFans.
	You guys don't deserve for men to pay for you on first dates.
	You have forsaken your traditional gender roles, chastity, modesty.
	Men should not have to pay on first dates with you.
	You might still want it, but that would be a trade-off.
	What you're asking is, yeah, the basic is like equality or privilege.
	You pick, but you can't have both.
	You can't be equal and be privileged.
	You can't have these special privileges granted to you and then still say you're equals.
	That's insane.
	That makes no sense.
	It's literally a contradiction.
	Okay, but what if you don't expect to be paid for on the first date, but I expect guys to open doors for me just like I would open for someone else that's not going to be a good thing.
	I mean, you can expect it.
	You don't deserve it.
	Or yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	Exactly.
	But I don't deserve something because of my occupation.
	I could be going out with somebody for the first like couple of times and they'd be opening my door and I'm like, oh yeah, by the way, I do this and their whole opinion and their view and everything changes about me and the way like just because of my job.
	So look.
	It means that I am less than something because of the job I have is what you're telling me.
	Well, here's what I'm telling you.
	So I don't doubt that you women who are involved in sex work, you're still going to get men who are chivalrous, who will pay for you on dates, who will open the car door, who will, what's the other thing?
	I don't know, open regular doors for you, buy flowers, do all this shit, right?
	Because maybe they don't know better.
	But you're still holding men to their traditional gender roles, but you're like prostitutes or whores or on OnlyFans or dressing revealing.
	Like you're not conducting yourself in a way that's traditional.
	Like don't you, doesn't that compute?
	Like, oh, okay, I'm not a traditional woman.
	Like, is it, look, you'll still get it.
	A lot of women still have these expectations, even though they're more promiscuous, they're more involved in sex work.
	They're the least submissive, the least feminine they've ever been in all of human history.
	Yeah, you can still get it because men know that on like a biological level, you guys respond to the traditional treatment.
	You guys respond.
	And if a guy wants to maximize his ability to either get you in bed or maybe even get you in a relationship, yeah, men do what works.
	So, but we're having a con, we're having like a higher level conversation.
	We're having a conversation about, do you deserve it?
	Oh, I know chicks who are strumpets who are on OnlyFans.
	They still get all that treatment.
	Do they deserve it?
	No.
	That's the conversation.
	That's a good question.
	So what about women who aren't doing any sex work, OnlyPans?
	Just women in general.
	Do you think they deserve it?
	What do you mean you'd have to be?
	Because you're basically saying, this is what I'm getting.
	You're basically saying they don't deserve it because of their job, but then we deserve it because we don't do sex work.
	That's what I'm getting.
	No, no, no.
	I'll explain it.
	The idea is like this.
	Let's say you have a Christian marriage.
	The idea here is the woman submits to the man's authority.
	The exchange, though, is the man is definitely giving her additional privilege, many additional privileges.
	Usually it's something like, well, I have the responsibility, right?
	The buck stops with me, so I have to take the responsibility, right?
	But with that comes the authority.
	That's a position of privilege immediately.
	That's a position of privilege immediately.
	So thing is, is like what you're saying, though, is I want equal authority.
	I want equal authority with you, but privilege.
	And it's like, no.
	So modern women can't have that either.
	You can't say, I want equal authority and have equal privilege.
	This doesn't work that way.
	I kind of see what everyone's saying because even though societal norms have changed and now, you know, some women, they don't want to be submissive or whatever, men are still like biologically hardwired, like, you know, as was said before, like to, you know, protect women, whether that be just holding the door, it's still, you know.
	No, we've been socially conditioned to do so over hundreds and hundreds of years of carryover from chivalry and from many eras in which women were a resource which needed to be protected and they needed to be protected because that's where the kids came from and for various other reasons as well.
	We're not in that age anymore.
	But it's still hardwired.
	They're still hardwired.
	The social conditioning is beginning to fall off.
	And all that remained, the second women, remember that the egalitarianism or women voting and being in the same social pedigree as men when it came to political power is brand new.
	We've only had a couple of generations since this happened.
	And so the boomers, for instance, they were still raised with this kind of chivalric code from their parents who went through that.
	The Gen Z has none of that.
	Okay, Gen X had a little bit.
	Millennials, Gen Z have none of that.
	So now we're re-evaluating how intersexual dynamics work.
	And men have realized, well, wait a second, this is really a bad deal for us.
	Why do women deserve to have additional social privileges?
	At the same time, they demand equality.
	We have no additional authority.
	Well, fuck that.
	We'll just treat them exactly like we do men.
	And women go, that's mean.
	That's heartless.
	That's evil.
	That's horrible.
	And it's like, well, you've got to pick one.
	I mean, I guess it depends.
	Like, if you're, you know, if they want to pay on a date or whatever, go 50-50, that's one thing.
	But at the end of the day, women are still physically weaker than men.
	So men should still pick up that box for a woman.
	Why?
	Why?
	Tell me why I should.
	They should, because they're stronger.
	That's what you should do.
	So just because a person's stronger than you, that entitles you to their labor?
	Yeah.
	Oh, so any person who's stronger than you, you're entitled to their labor.
	Did I hear that right?
	I'm sorry.
	Repeat that.
	Any person who's stronger than you, you are entitled to their labor.
	You can't say that.
	Men are hardwired to protect women, whether they realize it or not.
	Regardless of what age they're a biological thing, it's a biological thing.
	It's hardwiring.
	I don't believe you.
	Prove it.
	I'm not hardwired to pick up your fucking boxes because you're weaker than me.
	Show me where the hardwiring is.
	He's not hardwired.
	He's not hardwired to be your slave because he's stronger than you.
	Show me where the hotel is.
	Show me where the hardwire is.
	It's just picking up a box.
	It's not like I'm asking you to go outside and pick up every box you see.
	It's just picking up.
	Yeah, why should I pick up any box for you?
	Why should I help you with anything ever?
	There are just some things that are just spoken and you should do regardless.
	Hold on, though.
	I keep asking you why I should.
	How about this?
	Common courtism.
	We don't need a why.
	Let's talk about shoulds.
	We don't need a lie.
	Because you want things in return.
	Let's talk about shoulds.
	Should women be virgins?
	No, I don't know.
	What do you mean by the money?
	I don't know.
	Women may have a lot of men doing.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	You don't know, but you just listed out like multiple different things men should do.
	Why is it so easy for women to say men should do XYZ?
	And you actually, in addition to that, you have no problem with making should claims about what men should do.
	But the moment men say women should XYZ now that I think about it, men should strive to be virtuous, yes.
	I think women should have a low body count.
	Yeah, I think women should strive 100%.
	Should women be submissive.
	Is equality virtuous?
	What does virtuous mean?
	Well, virtues are series and sequences of duties which are applied to people that they're commanded to do in order for you to be in the like goodness category.
	I just think virtue.
	Relationships should be like reciprocal.
	How do you say that word?
	Reciprocatives.
	Relationships are equal.
	Reciprocation should be like 50-50.
	So if you open my door for me, I will be like wanting to be nicer to you.
	Perfect.
	You can go.
	I'll pick a box for you.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, that's what I live in that.
	Like, if you buy my dinner, I cook dinner.
	Exactly.
	You can't have to go fight on the front line.
	And because of my job.
	You can't fight on the front line.
	I'll probably.
	Like, let's say I make more money than the guy.
	I would have no problem paying for meals.
	Like, you know what I'm saying?
	Can I quote a movie scene from The Bronx Tale?
	Have everybody.
	Everybody has it?
	Okay.
	There was a part in the movie where the dad tells the main character, I forgot his name.
	He said, if you open, always make sure to open the door for a girl when she gets in the car.
	And this is going to be the test.
	If you go around the car and she opens the door for you, that means she's the one or like she's a good girl.
	So that was his test.
	The son, of course, he went and did that for the little girlfriend that he had.
	And she went and opened the door.
	So he was like, Dad, she's the one.
	She's the one.
	Or she's at least a good girl because he opened the door, but then she had the common courtesy of opening or unlocking the door for him.
	I just like to point out that I believe in that same movie, she cheated on him.
	But that's very good.
	She did not cheat.
	She did, yeah.
	I think she did.
	No.
	Yeah, what's the movie called?
	A Bronx Tale?
	A Bronx Tale.
	A Bronx Tale.
	I think that's what I'm saying.
	I'm just saying, yeah.
	Maybe I'm missing.
	Wrong movie, but she did not.
	But anyway, yeah, I've seen the scene.
	Okay.
	But the point here is, by the way, when Bronx Tale was around, women didn't have equality.
	I just want to let you know that this was a throwback movie.
	I love that movie.
	Yeah, it was a throwback movie.
	So there was no equality.
	So yeah, of course, they're shit testing.
	I get it.
	But the point is, is like, if you want equality, you can't have privilege because otherwise it's not equal.
	That's the point.
	It's very simple.
	So you can't say I demand privilege.
	What about when you're inequality?
	Sorry, what about when you are 50-50 and the men still be cheating you, still be try to manipulate to you, all those emotional things women we suffer with men.
	That's bad.
	Yeah, I think you should leave.
	Yeah, getting new.
	Yeah, no, exactly.
	But if you are in that position to do that, things, what's happening?
	Everybody's, oh, yes, 50-50, 50-50 or what?
	We women, we are more emotional.
	We're making a home.
	We're making a food.
	We are like that, of course.
	We're making the babies.
	Making a baby's.
	What was it?
	Wait, I got a question for you guys on this.
	Yeah, but that just literally has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
	Like, yes, it's bad when you're changing.
	Yeah, cheating bad.
	It's bad when women cheat.
	It's bad.
	All that cheating bad.
	I agree.
	One more question on this.
	Then we've got to do cup chats.
	Then we do have to move things on.
	Have you guys here ever been like, maybe you have a friends with benefits or like a buddy or sneaky link?
	Have you ever had a friends with benefits and you're like, I don't know, maybe you see him once a week, a couple times a month, whatever, or more.
	And so you're hooking up with him, but all the while, like, you're still going on dates?
	Has anybody done that?
	I don't.
	No, dates with like other guys.
	Other guys, yeah.
	I don't really sleep with people I'm not dating.
	No, but just go on dates.
	So like you have a friends with benefits.
	You're only fucking sorry.
	You've got like a friends with benefits, but like you're also dating other men while sleeping with that.
	Okay.
	I mean, you're a virgin.
	No.
	No.
	Have you done that?
	I date my husband and I only sleep with other people.
	I don't hang out with them.
	What, your husband?
	Or I thought you were...
	Well, whatever.
	It's been totally relationship.
	Yeah.
	Darkavia?
	No.
	Have you ever done that?
	I've had like friends with benefits, but I haven't been dating.
	No, no, like while you were in a friends with benefits, have you been like on a date with a guy?
	I'm not saying you hooked up with the date guy, but what about you?
	No.
	I thought you were in an open relationship.
	Yes, but when I was in the open relationship, I get engaged with my boyfriend and I left him.
	Wait, so question for you.
	When you were in your open relationship with your boyfriend, you were having sex with him, right?
	With my boyfriend?
	With your boyfriend?
	Yes.
	But you were in an open relationship.
	Were you going on dates with other men?
	No, literally, when I started with my boyfriend, I left the other guy.
	So that's in the middle of the day.
	So you were in an open relationship, but you didn't see, like, go on dates with anybody else?
	No.
	So he was in an open relationship?
	Yes, for sure.
	Yeah.
	So you were loyal to him?
	100%.
	So he was in the open relationship.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I don't.
	Into the mic?
	Into the mic?
	Oh, sorry.
	What was the question again?
	Sorry.
	Okay, you've had friends with benefits while you're with the friends with benefits.
	You'd like go on dates with other men?
	That's the thing is, I don't do friends with benefits.
	Like when I'm sleeping with someone, it's like an emotional thing.
	Okay, have you ever been sleeping with somebody and you were going on a date with somebody else?
	No, because if I'm sleeping with them, I'm dating them.
	Okay.
	I'm with them.
	No.
	I call cap on all this, but even if you guys were, you probably wouldn't admit it.
	How about I'm bringing it to my question, which is, do you think if a woman is sleeping with another guy, this kind of, you guys can win on this, related to the whole like chivalry thing.
	If a woman is sleeping with another guy, does she, and she goes on a date, because she's not in a relationship, right?
	She's single, but she's got friends with benefits.
	She's dating other people, whatever.
	Super common.
	Does she deserve, if she goes on a date with another guy, should the guy pay for the date?
	I think maybe I understand.
	So let me try to answer.
	Let's say I was going to be on a date with someone that was not my partner.
	I wouldn't expect them to pay because there is no way in hell this is ever going to be anything long-term.
	Okay.
	Anybody want to weigh in on this?
	It depends.
	If the man want it, why not?
	That's not the question.
	It's more just like, does she deserve it?
	And like, my position is, if I'm going on a date with a girl, maybe I know, maybe I don't know.
	I wouldn't even go on a date with a girl who's sexually involved with another man.
	Total turnoff.
	Wouldn't want anything to do with her.
	But it occurs to me that that would be totally bogus to go on a date with a girl who like fucked a dude last night and you want me to pay for the date?
	That's crazy.
	A lot of women move this way.
	So that's what we're trying to get at where this is the way not all women are moving that way, but maybe they're moving in other ways that are not deserving of like that sort of chivalry.
	I don't think men should pay for first dates if she's fucking another dude.
	That's what we're trying to get at.
	Like you guys have you're forsaken your traditional gender roles.
	You don't deserve traditional gender roles from the men's part.
	But then there's guys.
	Or do you disagree?
	Well, this is what I'll say is, sorry, I lost my train of thought a little bit.
	Wait, sorry.
	I lost my train of thought.
	I'm going to agree with what you just said.
	What's that?
	Restate what you just said.
	Oh, it's, I mean, it's just very simple.
	If a woman is sleeping with another guy, but she's not in a relationship with him, just a friends with benefits, she's got a roster, she's got a roster, and she's going on a date with somebody, I don't think she deserves to have her date paid for.
	She just got her guts rearranged earlier than last night.
	Some other dude's cum is still inside her.
	You want me to be chivalrous to a girl who's literally leaking out the semen of another dude?
	That's fucking crazy to me.
	That's what you're advocating for.
	That's not what I'm advocating for.
	Yes, you said men should still be chivalrous.
	Well, yeah, but I don't think paying for the date is always necessarily chivalrous or doesn't need to be in that category.
	What I mean by that is if I think whoever asked the person out on the date should be the one who pays.
	And I think that if you're more promiscuous, it's just an assumption.
	You're probably more likely to be the one that asked someone out on the date.
	I mean, that's the whole who should pay on the date because they're that.
	Women don't ask men out on dates.
	Generally speaking, generally speaking, women are not moving that way.
	I think maybe a lot of OnlyFans girls and maybe like sex workers probably do.
	I mean, I don't know for sure, but I've asked maybe they just don't ask me.
	Okay, here, let's go around the table.
	Let's go around the table.
	Of all the first dates you've been on, who initiated?
	Definitely not me.
	Okay, how many first dates have you been on?
	Like two.
	Two?
	Okay, the guy asked.
	Yes.
	You haven't been on any dates, Abigail?
	How many dates have you been on?
	You just go over the house and no.
	No, my body count is literally one.
	Okay.
	With the guy that I did for two years.
	And then I've just like okay, how about let me make it simple?
	Let me make it a bit more simple.
	And actually, here, I'll come back to you and then we'll go around.
	How many DMs do you get per day?
	Lots.
	How many DMs have you had in your entire life?
	Thousands.
	Thousands.
	Yeah, how many DMs have you sent to a man?
	Zero?
	How many DMs do you get?
	Right now, like 20.
	Per day.
	So you've had what?
	Hundreds, over a thousand DMs?
	20 times 30.
	A couple hundred.
	Have you ever sent?
	How many DMs have you sent to men?
	None.
	Yeah.
	Abigail, how many DMs do you get?
	A lot, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay, how many DMs do you send out?
	Zero?
	Never sent a DMs?
	I've actually slid in guys' DMs.
	Yeah, but like what, two or three times maybe?
	Like a really dude or something.
	I used to sled in guys' DMs a lot.
	Like who Zach Afron or some shit?
	No, it was like YouTubers that I would watch when I was like 15.
	That's a yikes.
	That I thought were funny.
	Oh boy.
	Okay, all right.
	Yeah.
	Well, you've been in a relationship for ever since social media has pretty much been around.
	But we're like, you've been on how many first dates do you think?
	Two.
	Two?
	Who asked who out?
	Well, the guy asked me out, but that was so long ago.
	What I would say is like the best example I would have now is: if I'm with my partner and we're going to sleep with other people, I usually get the other people.
	So like threesomes or what?
	Yeah, we're couples.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We're going to move it on.
	The Lucas asking men to bear the responsibility of chivalry.
	Actually, Skye, you get to read.
	Go ahead.
	You get reading privileges.
	While simultaneously stripping them of authority is, why'd you do this to me?
	You're into the mic, into the mic.
	Tantamount to slavery.
	Today, it's gone.
	I ran out of time.
	Sorry.
	Chivalry should only be provided in exchange for ladylike behavior.
	Agree, disagree?
	Neutral.
	I don't have an opinion on that.
	Well, I mean, it's like, you want a gentleman, you got to be a lady.
	Yeah.
	That makes sense, right?
	I think on average, but I do think that there's a minority of people, especially in the way that society is moving towards hypersexual, that people just don't care about promiscuity as much.
	Okay.
	All right, Lucas should show the vid of that Ukrainian kid being grabbed and shoved into a van to be taken to the front line to die while the Ukrainian women are out clubbing in some foreign country.
	Shit sandwich deal.
	Yeah, it's pretty unfortunate what's going on in Ukraine.
	Equality, you know, just you got Ukrainian women like flee the country.
	They're like partying it up, fucking dudes.
	Oh, I did a tweet about this a couple months ago.
	And then the Ukrainian men are being killed.
	Anyways, good talk.
	How to keep the bloodline going?
	The bloodline going?
	They got to keep everything going.
	So we can't get it.
	Wait, wait, question.
	I got a question for you on that.
	Oh, hold on.
	Let me see if I can.
	I got a really good question on that.
	So the men in Ukraine are being like drafted, forced to go to war.
	Do you think, would you be okay with there being a draft for women to give birth?
	Yeah, but can you opt out of it and do a different role on the boots on the ground instead?
	Like if I don't want to have children, can I go use my medical skills visit in Ukraine?
	Well, yeah, sure, then she can't have children.
	But like, I'm saying, like, if you said to continue, men can't opt out of combat.
	You can't be like, oh, but I think that I would be better not in combat.
	They're going to be like, we don't give a shit.
	You're going into combat.
	I thought there's certain like disabilities and stuff.
	Yeah, like if you're mentally insane, you can't complain.
	Yeah, if you're disabled and can't have children, I guess that would apply.
	But if you're not disabled, can have children, just like you're not disabled and can do combat, you're going to combat.
	Does mental instability count?
	Yeah, a lot of people try to play it, but what happens is they go, they send you to a shrink and he evaluates you for 15 minutes and goes, oh, you're crazy?
	Great.
	You can hold a rifle on the front lines.
	Now get going.
	That's how it works when there's an actual war and invasion, something like this.
	You can't go to war if you're crazy.
	You don't get to opt out.
	There's like psychological evaluations.
	You can't go to war if you're crazy.
	Okay, then.
	Whatever, okay, how about this?
	Whatever exemptions a man would get from being exempt from military conscription, women would also be exempt when it came to giving birth, whatever.
	I know.
	Although, even that's probably not realistic.
	But how about this?
	Are you in favor of like, would there be like a draft where women had to be drafted to give birth?
	Are you freaking out?
	Would the woman be supported financially for giving that birth?
	Because some women could give birth, but they wouldn't be able to support the business.
	Yeah, she got paid the same round.
	The soldier on the front line got paid.
	Do you have to raise a baby or you just give the baby off and then you can keep the baby?
	You'd raise the business.
	That's like, okay, but who's when you go to the military, it's not an 18-year sentence.
	So that's not really.
	Well, you're going to go as long as they need you for whatever it is they need you for.
	Yeah, but I want to answer my question.
	When you give the baby, are you going to be financially supported for that?
	That's not an 18-year sentence.
	What if it's like you die within a year?
	Like, that seems a bit worse than an 18.
	Is that how you view raising children?
	That's fine.
	You have to, you have to raise the child in the same exact period of time that the standard draft tour was.
	And then after that, if you didn't want the child, that would go over to state custody immediately.
	Or you could give it up for adoption.
	Here's the key, right?
	Are you paying for it?
	You gave it up for adoption immediately, just so you know, 100% of babies at birth who are given up for adoption are adopted.
	100%.
	But are you being paid to support the child?
	Because when you go to war, you get paid.
	We already answered that.
	Yeah.
	You get paid for the same amount of time that a typical tour for a soldier on the front lines would be.
	I think, I guess, if you only had to take care of the baby for four years, sure.
	Sure.
	Same thing.
	Because it's not usually a four-year presentation.
	She's okay with the birth draft.
	I'm okay with that.
	I'm okay.
	She's okay with it.
	All right.
	Here we go.
	We got it.
	It's only for four years.
	Bye-bye.
	Brian, are you going to apply to be a birth stud?
	I will be sure.
	I will volunteer.
	I'll be a birth stud.
	I'll volunteer.
	Just go house to house, like the stork or what?
	Yeah, pretty much.
	Although I'm going to get like screwed over and they're just going to give me the bigger girls.
	You know, it's going to be unfortunate.
	There's fluffer rolls also.
	You could throw it.
	I'm not sure about that one, but that's cool.
	Okay, we got Stiffler here, finally.
	Ask everyone to rate their own looks on the scale of one to ten.
	You can't pick seven, starting with you.
	Rate your own looks, scale of one to ten.
	Go ahead.
	I wanted the number seven, but I'll go with 7.5.
	It's either 6 or 8.
	You can't do a 0.5.
	Sorry.
	I'll do an 8 because I like my song.
	What about you?
	I don't think there's a perfect 10.
	So right now, I'd say I've improved my looks a lot.
	An eight.
	What were you before the BBL and fake boobies and the goal?
	Goalie.
	What is it called?
	The goalie.
	It's just a double chin, man.
	The double chin.
	What were you?
	What were you before?
	A six?
	What were you?
	I think a six, yeah.
	Okay, six to eight.
	All right.
	Abigail.
	One to ten.
	I'd say a solid eight point seven.
	There's no decimals.
	It's just a solid number.
	Can we just round that to either?
	8.7 repeating?
	No.
	8.777.
	Okay.
	No, like 8.76.
	Peaches.
	What about you?
	International 8.
	International.
	What about in Bozeman, Montana?
	What do you think?
	I break that scale.
	Okay.
	I'm just kidding.
	Does she break the Bozeman-Montana scale?
	I don't know.
	It's definitely an interesting scale for sure.
	Are there babes in Montana?
	Are there babes in Montana?
	Babes.
	Oh, man.
	I gotta be careful how I answer this question.
	Yeah, there's plenty of good-looking women in Montana.
	Yeah, there's a.
	I do live in a college town, so it's a little bit better than the rest of the state.
	Yeah, I've been to Bozeman, Montana.
	I mean, this is mostly like men who come in who are oil riggers and things like that.
	That's true.
	But now it's becoming more of a booming, like kind of industrious area.
	So there's plenty of good-looking women there, just like there are all over the country.
	Nice.
	Nice.
	Darkavia?
	10.
	Okay.
	I should have had you go.
	Okay, first of all, I say 10 because the last few times I was on here, I said 10, so I'm not going down.
	Oh, could you scoot into the table a bit?
	I look at her hack.
	What about you?
	I think I consider myself an eight, but I'm funny.
	I do consider myself a little bit of a personality.
	So you're seven.
	Hey, a nine.
	With a personality to make up a nine.
	I feel like a girl being funny makes her less.
	No.
	Just kidding.
	We don't like boring over here.
	Didn't you?
	Didn't you think she's an oxymoron anyway by saying a woman who's funny?
	That is true, Andy.
	Hey.
	Does it even exist?
	We're not talking to you.
	I mean, you exist.
	I'm just kidding.
	I made you laugh, but she never made me laugh once, not once.
	You're supposed to be the one.
	Tell us a joke.
	What's going on?
	Tell us a joke.
	All right.
	You're good.
	Are you more like her?
	I said I consider myself an eight, but if I, you know, if everybody agrees that I'm kind of funny, then I guess I could be a nine, but I don't know.
	I'll leave it up to you guys at the point.
	Are you funny in the like people laugh with you or ask you?
	Am I funny?
	You are.
	She isn't.
	I'd be making her laugh.
	Yeah, but remember how earlier you said women are completely judgmental, but then also lie.
	And then now you got a friend who's like, oh, yeah, of course you're funny.
	Yeah, just lie to me.
	It's fine.
	I don't care.
	Okay, what about you?
	I am honestly, I am seven because you can't pick seven.
	Yeah.
	Six or eight.
	Okay.
	Eight, yes.
	Eight.
	Okay.
	All right, what about you?
	Six.
	Six?
	Okay.
	Eight.
	Eight?
	All right.
	Yeah, I'm going to say an eight.
	All right, I'll get myself a little bit.
	We're all neutral.
	I've been going down, Brian.
	I just watched one last night that you said you were a six.
	I've been rating myself.
	I used to say six, but I gained a bit of weight, so I got a downgrade.
	I can help you fix that.
	All right.
	Yeah, let's do it.
	Yeah, I got to lose some weight.
	But Andrew, what do you?
	10.
	Andrew's a 10.
	Look at this handsome thing.
	With the beard.
	Only because of the new beard.
	Look at the handsome face.
	Like a 10, I'm a 10, right?
	Do you guys co-sign?
	Do you guys think, like, I want every girl here to say that, Andrew, you're a 10 out of 10?
	Oh, I feel like a 10.
	How could you say I'm not a 10 if I feel like a 10?
	Press that button.
	I still don't care about your feelings.
	Oh.
	Oh.
	Nice.
	That's why they don't care that you're a four.
	That doesn't seem factual.
	It seems factual.
	Sounds good.
	Okay.
	No one agreed.
	Yeah, I know, but they all love it.
	Remember that part?
	That you're the only honest woman in the room?
	All right.
	Oh, final question related to the rating thing.
	Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
	Hell no.
	So you're 20.
	Do you think you'll be better looking at 30?
	I hope it only goes up from here.
	I have confidence.
	But, I mean, what do you think?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What about 40?
	20 years, 40?
	Yeah.
	30 years, 50?
	Yes.
	40 years, 60?
	Mm-hmm.
	50 years, 70.
	I'll be hot until attractive.
	Sorry, that's a bad word.
	Thank you.
	Like 100?
	You're going to be hotter at 100.
	Yeah, I'm going to be like 109 on the cane, the wrinkliest skin you've ever seen, and it's going to be like, it's going to be great.
	I don't think your age or the wrinkles or anything determine.
	She's going to be the hottest in the graveyard.
	Thank you.
	I'm going to make everyone flip over in their graves.
	Just by showing up.
	Could you just tilt your mic down a little bit?
	What about you?
	You're 18, better looking in 10 years' time at 28.
	Oh, yeah.
	20 years' time 38?
	Yeah.
	Wait, 30 years' time, 48?
	Yes.
	40 years' time, 58.
	Yes.
	50 years' time, 68.
	That's your peak.
	You're peaking at 50.
	Hopefully, you work out, eat healthy.
	Oh, boy.
	Okay.
	This is better looking in 10 years' time.
	You're 18, 28.
	I think so, because corona cough is 28.
	So in 10 years, like she has a decade on me, so I think I should look good because she's hot.
	Okay.
	Can you just tilt your mic down a little bit?
	Just like tilt it down.
	Yeah, perfect.
	20 years' time at 38.
	30 years' time, 48.
	That's 20.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, 20 years' time, 38.
	Your math isn't mathing.
	No, 20 years' time, you'll be in 20 years' time.
	You'll be 38.
	Yeah.
	30 years' time at 48.
	40 years' time at 58.
	I think I'll probably just get nerfed at like 70.
	That's when you're.
	I think, yeah, because I feel like my hair extensions won't stay in at that point because there will be nothing to grip it to.
	Like, my hair will be so bleached that there will be like nothing to grip it to at that point.
	Do you even have lenses in those glasses?
	No, because it creates a glare.
	So it's like purposely just for like aesthetic.
	No, because like I like to do that in fifth grade.
	Like, I feel like I'm still cute without them.
	I just like purposely like I like them.
	Okay.
	Like I've been like, I don't know.
	All right.
	You're 29.
	Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time at 39?
	I will never be as hot and young as I am right now, but I'm hopeful.
	Sure.
	And then going backwards, do you think you were better looking 10 years ago at 19 versus now at 29?
	Surprisingly, no, this is the best I've ever looked in my life.
	I'm pretty happy with it.
	By the way, the girl who was sitting there, Scarlett, she's 24.
	Do you guys think she was 24?
	I would have said 45 earlier.
	I thought it was for real.
	Because you made a joke about calling her 48.
	That's a rough 24.
	Hopefully, that's not what I would know.
	She's going to watch this, guys.
	Be nice.
	Yeah, she's pretty.
	I mean, gorgeous.
	She did leave like multiple times.
	Anyways, okay, okay, okay.
	I won't.
	Why did she leave anyway?
	I mean, she was like on leaving four different times.
	She was back there crying.
	I personally blame Erwin.
	Andrew.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Maybe it was.
	Maybe.
	I don't know.
	I personally blame Adriana.
	You were really mean to her.
	I wasn't asking her those questions in a mean way.
	Like, I was genuinely asking her because I was concerned.
	Like, I was just thinking, is she being trafficked into something that she doesn't want to?
	Like, does she need help?
	Yeah, that was a good question.
	She went through some shit and you guys are poking the barriers.
	I was just genuinely confused and I wanted to run.
	Yeah, no, they tried around.
	I just dropped her off here.
	I wanted to know more about the cheese racing in Wisconsin, guys.
	Anyways, I love that question.
	Like, I'm genuinely concerned for her.
	Like, I don't know.
	Yeah, you sound genuinely concerned.
	I am.
	I actually hope she's okay.
	She's doing great.
	I hope so.
	Going to you, you are 27.
	Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time at 37?
	I hope so.
	I don't plan on getting anything done on my face.
	I want to age gracefully, so I'm really hoping it goes well.
	If not, I'm dying my hair and being that colorful grandma one day.
	What about 20 years' time at 47?
	Better looking than now?
	I hope so.
	I'm going to try to keep working out.
	How about 57?
	I'm just crossing my fingers and hoping for the best.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And then how about this?
	Are you better looking now at 27 than you were at 18?
	I was a lot more fit when I was 18.
	When you were 18?
	Yeah.
	So better looking?
	More athletic.
	So better body?
	Better body.
	I did gain a little bit of weight.
	We have the same problem.
	Yeah.
	But better face now.
	Better face, yeah.
	Better total package, too, right?
	Better total, in total, I'm assuming.
	I guess so, yeah.
	You're 33, better looking in 10 years' time at 43.
	And I think I still have the same type of life I still has.
	I think, yes, actually.
	Okay.
	20 years' time, 53.
	63, if for real, I don't fix something about the type or the mentalities or whatever, maybe not.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And then you're 33.
	Are you better looking now at 33 than you were at 23, 10 years ago?
	And the 23, yes, it's still looking good, but the madre has right now, that's better now.
	Better now, I guess.
	You're 22.
	Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time at 32?
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Okay.
	20 years' time, 42.
	I think I'm going to look great until I'm about 60.
	Great until 60.
	When's the peak for you?
	50, 50?
	I think my late 30s is going to be my peak.
	Your peak physically.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Okay.
	That's why we get gym trainers.
	28, better looking in 10 years' time at 38?
	No, unfortunately, we lose 1% of collagen every year at age 20.
	So, no, I will not look better in 60.
	There you go.
	There you go.
	Okay.
	And then, do you think, are you better looking now at 28 than you were at 18?
	I would say I'm better looking now, just a little bit.
	Okay.
	A lot of people say I look the same.
	Sure.
	Brandon, 24, better looking in 10 years' time?
	Yeah, I think 34 I'm looking better.
	Okay, and then what about 20 years' time?
	44?
	44, yeah, that's probably peak.
	All right.
	And then after that, it might start to come down.
	Like 55.
	That's too far.
	That's too far.
	All right, I'm just to say it, man.
	Like.
	All right.
	I'll say it.
	I'll say it.
	Look, okay.
	No, I'll say it.
	I'll say it.
	You guys are pretty much, everybody's going to be the best looking when they're like in their early 20s.
	Sorry.
	Maybe men, it's a little, it can be a little different.
	But Brian, they're all going to be super hot when they're 60 fucking eight years old.
	What's wrong with you?
	Thank you.
	Yeah, they're all saying, like, I'm going to be a babe at 78.
	Okay, well, I'm going to be a little bit more than 300.
	I said I'm aging gracefully.
	Hold on.
	She actually is.
	Okay.
	So we'll talk after the show.
	I feel like 23 will be my prime.
	20.
	20.
	Like, give me five years.
	Let me cook.
	Wait, I thought you said you're going to be like babe status until 50 or something, 60 or 40.
	Well, yeah, but like, I think that will be my peak.
	You didn't ask me when my peak will be.
	You said when my nerf will be.
	But I said better looking.
	So the question was.
	Do you think that your nerf's going to be when you're 68 years old?
	70.
	Like at that point, you're like, oh, it might come down just a shred when you're 70.
	Yeah.
	That's when I'm going to be like completely.
	I'll just say, y'all delusional.
	Y'all delusional.
	I said aging gracefully.
	You keep ignoring my comments.
	I'm aging gracefully so.
	The question is when you're going to be the most attractive.
	The question is, the question is actually just, are you going to be better looking in 10 years than you are right now?
	It doesn't matter if you age gracefully.
	I'm just hoping I look good.
	Yeah, because like critical.
	I know, but what's the question?
	I'll be 20.
	The question is.
	As long as I'm able to wash my own clothes by that age, I'm a good wife.
	Yeah, but nobody's asking if you're still going to look good in 10 years.
	Nobody disputes that many women who are in their 30s and 40s and 50s are good looking.
	The question is just to ask, are you going to be more or less good looking in 10 years?
	That's the question.
	Not if you're still, you could still be a good looking woman in 10 years.
	I have no idea.
	I'm just saying, do you think you'll be more or less?
	No, probably not.
	Yeah, probably not.
	That's like, that's totally irrational, right?
	It flies away from all of the growth evidence that we have.
	Wait, Sky, Sky, Di, what were you saying?
	Skye, what were you saying?
	Okay.
	Go ahead, Skye.
	Wait, are you able to scoop this way a little bit?
	You're getting a little out of fair.
	Just to be clear, while she's doing that, the question, women can be attractive in their 30s, 40s.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	You can still be attractive.
	It is compared, like comparing your 48-year-old self to your 28 or 18-year-old self, which is more attractive.
	Like, do you think you're going to make more money when you're 48?
	Yes, my mom is so hot on OF.
	Yeah, she do OF.
	No, she should.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	Probably, I don't know.
	I mean, honestly, yeah, I probably make more money now if we're being honest.
	But do I think I'm going to get more attractive?
	Here.
	Why would you make more money if you were less attractive?
	Why would you make more money if you were less attractive?
	Right, no, I was reiterating the question before I answered it.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	I'm kicking you.
	No.
	But I'm hopeful, and I'm going to be delusional.
	I'm going to tell myself I'm going to get better looking.
	The confidence is key.
	You got to lie to yourself to believe it.
	When I'm 70, I'm still just, I'm going to have a better chance of like bagging like a baddie 25 year old.
	I think you got it.
	I mean, some chicks are into grandpa.
	She's so hopeful.
	You don't know what she's doing.
	At least she admits that.
	Those like older men humanity is like a lot of fun.
	I know that's solutional.
	Okay.
	But like, I don't want to be.
	I know I'm very aware that's solutional, but I don't want to be like scared about my future and be like, wait, oh, the aging thing.
	Wait, Damien, do we have to discard?
	Because all of your value reduces down to like how beautiful you think people perceive.
	No, but once, no, no, no.
	Age comes with bodily functions.
	I feel like if I can't, not bodily functions, like going pee and stuff.
	I mean like physically, bodily movements.
	Like, the older you get, the less.
	Do you think you die at 40?
	No, I'm not.
	You have any bodily function.
	What do you mean?
	Yeah, and I'm saying like once you hit 70 and stuff, you're not going to be able to do things like how you used to.
	And like, even if you're 40, you can't do things that you used to do when you were, you know, 16, 20.
	Even I'm 40 and I could do everything I used to do when I was 16.
	Very unhealthy.
	Oh, yeah, Andrew.
	Can you do a cartwheel?
	How many.
	Wait, hold on.
	I don't want to be.
	Andrew, I'm 35, right?
	I'm 35.
	Okay.
	Listen, I could have sex multiple times a night.
	Now, like, once I'm good.
	I'm good.
	I do it once, and I'm okay.
	All right, leave me alone.
	You know what I mean?
	Andrew, are you just going, you doing the all-nighters?
	Sorry, is that weird?
	I can do everything that I could do.
	All right, okay.
	I don't.
	I'm just going to.
	Give me the push-ups.
	I want to see you get down and do the squirrel.
	I just want to look my body.
	It all comes down to you just having to take care of yourself.
	I could still do it.
	It's not a bucket.
	I could still do it.
	It's just I'm kind of like, you know, it's like when you're young, you know, you haven't had as much sex.
	Now it's like, eh, all right.
	Well, like, I mean, I don't care as much about sex anymore because I've had it.
	I've had a bunch of it.
	Now it's like I'm looking for a girl.
	Like, is she going to be a little bit more?
	You're trying to settle down.
	No.
	No.
	Well, maybe.
	But I'm just about sex.
	Will she fold my laundry?
	Will she bow?
	Will she be?
	Bow!
	Will she bow?
	Why are you that look, Darkie?
	You know the bow thing.
	You know what?
	You know about it.
	I thought we were over that.
	No, I'm still.
	It sounds like Andrew was hunting and fishing when he was 16, not having sex.
	So maybe that just wasn't in the cards for him at that moment in time.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm just not always.
	Should we show the bow video?
	After the foundational virtue ethicist you see before you today, okay?
	Once upon a time, I too was a degenerate, but not nearly as degenerate as all of you.
	But once upon a time, I too.
	So there's hope for me damaged.
	No, there's no damage.
	Probably not.
	But there was definitely hope for me.
	Look, let's pull up the aging things and then we'll do the bow video.
	Wait, oh, can we?
	Why?
	No.
	They didn't.
	Okay, let's do the second batch first.
	Do you have those ready?
	We'll do the second batch first.
	Thank you for whoever's doing it.
	If you guys can include the before and after, like the original photo and then the just admit it's a little easier for us.
	Oh, he took it.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'm eating.
	I eat up the whole person's home.
	You look like you would give me cookies.
	Thank you.
	I would love you if you feed birds on that.
	Next.
	Cutie.
	I'm scared.
	I'm scared.
	You're so.
	Oh, my God.
	They nerfed you.
	They nerfed me.
	You look like the turtle.
	I have an RBS.
	I was so worried about this photo.
	I look like I cuss out children.
	I know.
	You do look like you work at the front desk of high school.
	I know.
	And I like cuss out children.
	I'm like, don't run in the halls.
	Like, you're the lady who writes the late sex at the turtle for you.
	You guys did me so dirty.
	You could have just gotten it.
	You have to see yours, Brian.
	Like, the other two are like smiling.
	You have me like this.
	You look like you're the secretary at like the third worst.
	I have the worst RBM.
	You guys should have dirty.
	You're a couple of.
	Okay, so this is a little bit.
	You look good.
	She looks great.
	I love that.
	All right, next.
	Oh, my God.
	That's a yikes.
	I can't tell the difference.
	Next.
	Tom is cute.
	Are you the real guy?
	I'm that cute grandma.
	I'm Buelita.
	You look silly.
	I'm the one you bump into at the casino.
	I love the fun grandma.
	Abuela.
	The casino grandma.
	Abuelita.
	Abuela.
	Abuela.
	Casino grandma number two.
	Oh, boy.
	Milk.
	All right, next.
	Okay, you look like the type of kid who wouldn't have let me play my friends in Venmo.
	Like, that's.
	I'm just saying.
	I'm just going to throw that.
	Next.
	Oh, God.
	Why'd you kind of look wrong?
	Why does he kind of look like Trump?
	Do you see it?
	You look like you're retiring in San Diego.
	Hey, you look good.
	Goodness.
	Next.
	That's a good song.
	Okay, and then we'll go to the other one really quick.
	All right.
	Wow.
	Nice.
	Fun.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	Good times.
	All right.
	What is this?
	Next.
	What exactly are they doing?
	Next one.
	Holy shit.
	Okay, guys.
	Next.
	Wait, what age is this?
	Like 20, 30 years, probably.
	Next.
	What?
	I can't tell the difference.
	Next.
	I detect no care.
	No.
	Next.
	Okay, next.
	Whoa.
	Okay, next.
	Hold on, wait, go back.
	Go back?
	You look like Voldemort, bro.
	I was going to say the Mona Lisa.
	Oh, yes.
	Yeah, very rich.
	Mona Lisa.
	The Mona Lisa.
	Wow.
	Very art.
	Very cute.
	Very demure.
	All right, next.
	All right, next.
	Whoa.
	Whoa, y'all.
	Okay, next.
	Who did that?
	Oh, my God.
	How did I get older?
	How did I get older?
	You kind of look like me now.
	Next.
	Oh, boy.
	Emily.
	What?
	Next.
	Of course.
	Make it a little bit.
	Make it bigger.
	Chad.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	All right.
	All right.
	That's good.
	True.
	That's good.
	All right.
	Let's see here.
	Let's do a quick Twitch shout-out.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever, twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow in a Prime sub if you have one.
	Guys, if you have Amazon Prime, you can link it to your Twitch.
	It's a quick, free, easy way to support the show every single month.
	TTS is 200.
	Read is 100.
	Also, you can support us if you want all your contribution to go to us without the platforms taking their cut.
	Venmo Cash App 100% goes to us, whatever.
	Pod on that.
	Also, guys, like the video if you've been enjoying the stream.
	And let's do the bow video really quick since I brought it up because these girls were laughing.
	So this is a video I took of my ex-girlfriend.
	I dumped her.
	She deserved it.
	Let's go ahead and pull up the bow video.
	Go ahead and play it for us.
	Boom, huge bow.
	Did you see the bow?
	That's, I, you know.
	She did that naturally, but the other things I had to train.
	So, okay, there, you know, she has to do my laundry.
	And then, you know, this is after I got home from a long podcast episode.
	So she had the dinner ready.
	Ready.
	She opened my beer for me.
	I had to scold her for those tomatoes because that's just, I don't like tomatoes and they were just tomatoes.
	And play it.
	Let's see the bow really quick, just one more time.
	Boom, huge bow.
	Look at that angle.
	Just.
	So this is my expectation for a girl.
	For a girlfriend.
	Beautiful.
	He's beautiful, yeah.
	So you're moving to Japan?
	No, I want to make the whitest woman ever do that.
	Why do you say they're Japanese?
	What kind of a racism?
	That could be, that could be Korean.
	No, because they bow.
	They do that.
	Yeah, they do all that in those other Asian countries too.
	What do you mean?
	Well, okay, well, over there.
	He's moving over there.
	That's what I'm doing.
	He's moving over there.
	No, Don't move.
	No, no, don't move.
	Don't go.
	You have to be here.
	You have to be here.
	Why?
	No.
	But I am going to Spain and I will conquer the Spaniards.
	I will have these Spanish women bowing like you wouldn't believe the best bows, okay?
	The best.
	We womans in Spain, we love the gringos.
	You don't love?
	I love.
	I do.
	I love gringos.
	Yes, I love it.
	I am a gringo.
	There you go, Brian.
	Yeah.
	I've heard fives are like an eight over there in Asia.
	The what?
	Fives are like an eight in Asia.
	Maybe.
	If you're a white guy.
	There you go.
	I'm an eight in somewhere.
	Cambodia, Thailand.
	Have you seen how, like, like when you go to like India, how they treat like white women, how they've never seen them.
	Have you been to India?
	No, I've seen like TikToks.
	How like they all like pull out their phones and they'll like record because they've never seen it before.
	Yeah, just some advice for, I guess, any, don't go to India.
	Don't do it.
	Don't go to India.
	Don't go.
	Don't do it.
	What?
	Why?
	Sorry, sorry, sorry.
	What?
	What?
	Yeah.
	I mean.
	For a telemarketing job is what he's talking about.
	Don't go there for a telemarketing job.
	I thought it would be funny for like a TikTok clip.
	For you to go to India?
	You're going to go to India?
	Imagine it's like, oh, yeah, like all these guys want me.
	And then getting a funny ass clip.
	And then they just leave.
	You call them fuck you and like you're going to be able to get it.
	Yeah, yeah, until you can't leave because they forced you into marriage.
	You get H. pylori.
	They always go super viral every single clip.
	Also on the first date, I think a girl should do my laundry on the first date.
	Oh, vacation?
	Yeah.
	Have your high friends, everything.
	Oh, what do you mean?
	Am I going to be a bad thing?
	Are you paying for the date?
	Oh, no, I'm paying for the date.
	I'm paying for everything.
	Wait, so it's like a third day.
	Every gringo di servie Latina and Day Law.
	See, she's on board.
	She's on board.
	She wants to hold my laundry.
	Not the first date, though.
	That's like a third date test.
	No, it's a first date.
	Do you have random girls over on the first date?
	It's still good.
	You have someone over on the first date?
	Sure, why not?
	What if they're like a murderer or something?
	What if they're crazy?
	She don't got hands.
	Most men want girls to come over on the first date.
	Most men want girls to come over on the first date.
	Because you don't know if girls are crazy.
	But all Brian sees is.
	What if I'm the murderer, too?
	Exactly that, too.
	He probably is a murderer.
	What if you guys both try to kill people and you both try to kill each other?
	Would you guys go to the first date?
	That would be fun.
	He turns into a cake.
	I wouldn't either.
	That's crazy.
	It sounds fun.
	Yeah, good talk.
	It's like a book.
	Yeah, also, like, I actually have a test.
	Like, I do have a laundry machine at my house, like, washing machine dryer.
	But I also have a washboard.
	So, just to, like, test if she's actually, like, like a ride or die, she has to use the wash.
	She will do it.
	She will do it.
	This is my one.
	I said that one right here.
	Like, hang it up on a Garrett's de Gerdimens.
	Yeah, she passes a test.
	She's going to iron it when it's going to be.
	Yeah, she has to bring it on.
	Also, she's coming back tomorrow.
	She ain't the one.
	She's going to come back tomorrow, I promise.
	Maybe she can't make the cash.
	Look, if she won't find somebody who will.
	If she wanted to, she would.
	Absolutely.
	She also needs to make me a quilt.
	She's not going to leave.
	You want me to leave her?
	You're Spanish?
	Do you know how to make moccasins?
	And I am Latino, but I grew up all my life in Spain, so both things I know do.
	Do you know how to make Adobe brick?
	Adobe brick?
	Adobe brick.
	And quit the shingles for roofing.
	She doesn't know how to make a notebook.
	I don't want.
	So you want her to build you a house?
	That's what you want.
	Yes.
	Like the other one.
	No, you buy the house.
	I make it a family.
	The notebook, or wait, what is it called?
	Yeah.
	The notebook.
	And Brian Gosling.
	He wants Bob the Boo.
	You want Ryan Gosling to build you a house?
	Is that what you're doing?
	Female Ryan Gosling to build me a house.
	I want female Ryan Gosling to build me a house, too.
	That sounds lovely.
	Trans.
	I'll settle for trans Ryan Gosling.
	Oh, ouch.
	No.
	Ryan Gosling is Ryan Gosling.
	Yeah.
	Perfect timing.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Good talk.
	I don't know.
	Do you guys think that's fair, though?
	Like the whole bowel thing?
	It depends how he treats me.
	If he earns it.
	So he has to earn the bow.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	If he treats me nice, then I respect Brian's tiny peen subbed on Twitch.
	W.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	I have to love and respect you to do that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You know.
	It's actually advice for men.
	Here's what you do: okay.
	If you're bringing over a girl after first time she's coming over the house, already have your laundry in the dryer.
	So it's already dry.
	You're going to be a nice, you're going to be a gentleman.
	You're going to be a nice guy.
	You're not going to make her do everything.
	She just has to fold it.
	Second time she does everything, but first time you make her fold it.
	And if she does it, she's a keeper.
	Do you take it out of the laundry?
	No, she needs to take it out.
	So how does she know it's in there though?
	I'm like, hey, I need to show you something.
	I walk over the laundry room and then I just like, I look at her.
	I don't say anything.
	I just glance at her and then I exit the laundry room.
	And then I just stay.
	I don't even tell her.
	I don't tell her what to do.
	You just let nature take its course.
	Exactly.
	I just observe and see she just kind of naturally goes for it, you know?
	And that's a real woman.
	That's a real thing.
	Ayana Green.
	Ayanagri.
	Ayanagri.
	There you go.
	There you go.
	Oh, she's great.
	She is.
	There you go.
	But there's been situations where I've cleaned, cooked, and done everything for a guy.
	And then one time I, with one of my exes, I cooked a full meal, huge meal.
	I've ended up finding out he threw everything away because the next day he had somebody over while I was like home sleeping on a school.
	That's a thought that counts.
	Like one time I had a girl, you know, those Costco chickens?
	It would have been really cool if he had fed it.
	I had a girl.
	I had a girl freed the entire Costco chicken for me.
	And then I just never ate it.
	And then I threw it out.
	But it was a thought that counted.
	I guess so.
	True.
	Yeah.
	It's not good once it's been in the refrigerator for two days.
	Disintegrates.
	Would you only date a virgin because you're a virgin?
	That's a great question.
	Are they born again?
	Or they're not born again?
	You can't.
	I don't believe that.
	Yeah, let's say they're born again.
	When it comes to it, it's definitely something that I would keep in mind when choosing a partner.
	But at the same time, I have dated both virgins and non-virgins.
	But the virgins have to be committed to not having sex till marriage, if that makes sense.
	Let me say what I have to talk to you.
	If you want a virgin woman, raise a hair.
	Raise a hair.
	Take yourself.
	What did she say?
	Raise?
	Not raise her.
	Build her, is what she's saying.
	Build a virgin?
	No, like if you're gonna date her virgin.
	You can't undo that.
	No, no, no.
	So what she's saying.
	Let me think.
	I'm sorry.
	I mean, wait, scoot the mic closer to the edge.
	Yeah.
	When you want somebody like in the characteristics you want it, why are you not taking somebody, I don't know, from another part of the world?
	You know, United States doesn't exist, something like that.
	I mean, they do exist.
	And it's funny because I actually got on this podcast.
	Shout out to Rachel Wilson because she saw a couple of the videos that I had posted on this exact topic.
	And what's funny is there definitely are a lot out there.
	At least I figured that out ever since posting that video.
	But it's true that you can definitely find a lot more in other countries.
	And if you ask me, you can definitely go to the next one.
	One thing, Darkavia.
	Actually, I think you had posted some stories a couple days ago.
	And I'm not going to say who, but a girl reached out to me who she's like, I'm a virgin.
	I want to be on the show.
	Like, she was on the show.
	That's perfect.
	She's trying to be on the show, not to be on the show, but to get at you.
	Fantastic.
	I love it.
	That's exactly how.
	You had a question for him?
	Yeah, aren't you?
	Okay, so I know some guys are worried, or females are worried, that like women like men that are more experienced, I guess, when women are virgins.
	So I guess like doing less of the work, I guess.
	But are you, do you ever feel like insecure in that way about like being a virgin and not being able to know what you're doing?
	For sure.
	So I felt insecure about it for a really long time, especially I felt more insecure around men 100% because men, when you tell them that you're a virgin, they look at you like you're really weird.
	And one of the, I would say, the traits that guys look for when it comes to judging if another guy is successful is how many men he's gotten with.
	So it's like the opposite of body count, if anything.
	You know, guys will say, oh, you know, you slept with 50 women.
	That's awesome.
	You're good at your job.
	You're successful, if that makes sense.
	But when it comes to the female side of things, I have had a little bit of that before, but most of the women that I look for are also Christian.
	And so they hopefully will value that just as much.
	So words.
	Yeah, that's my situation.
	Honestly, man.
	So you're saying you would maybe date a girl who's not a virgin, though?
	I would if she was practicing Christian and she had repented of her previous sins.
	Hold on.
	I got to come in here, man.
	Yeah, no, go ahead.
	You're going to help me lose weight.
	I'm going to help you not settle for a woman who ain't a virgin.
	Bro, you're tall.
	You're a handsome guy.
	You're ripped.
	You're shredded.
	You're a giga Chad, you're a virgin.
	Someone the goal is definitely settle.
	Don't settle for less than the virgin.
	I am going to be every single girl that you come into contact with has to pass through me before she gets to the virgin.
	I am your matchmaker.
	I'm going to screen these girls, bro.
	First question: Are you a virgin?
	No.
	Next.
	That's out.
	That's part of me like this.
	It's going to be like, where is it?
	It's going to be.
	Peace out.
	Peace out.
	You too, homie.
	Also, to the Spanish speakers.
	Flint!
	Fucking out, bro.
	No, I definitely, that is the ideal scenario.
	I would say it is not very common, and in fact, it's very difficult, which is why, you know, I mentioned earlier that's one of the first questions that I'll even ask women, like on a first date, is I will just say, Are you a virgin?
	And even in Christian circles, it's not super common nowadays.
	First date, you're before you even go on the date.
	I should have rookie than that.
	Wait, how did you get that?
	Yeah, the first DM.
	How do you meet them?
	I meet girls through online dating and Instagram.
	They DM you?
	I get DM'd a lot on Instagram.
	I will say that.
	So you've been on dates with girls who've DM'd you?
	Correct.
	Oh, bro.
	You have all the power there.
	You can ask 30 questions before you even hop on a call with this girl, before you even go on a date.
	Are you a virgin?
	Question one.
	No, blocked.
	Yeah, that hasn't happened in the DM conversations.
	But like, I'm going to give you Brian's secret list of questions.
	27 questions that you're going to ask.
	And it's going to be a list.
	It's going to be a girlfriend application.
	You are going to send it to them.
	Okay.
	You're going to send it to them.
	They got to fill it out.
	And then send it back.
	And then also, from here on out, dude, I am your.
	Every single time.
	You're just going towards this without getting through me, bro.
	It's a you've got.
	I'm telling you, man.
	You got it.
	That sounds great to me.
	That's perfect.
	I'm cock blocking.
	That is the ideal situation.
	I'm like, fat friend.
	He's a defensive fat friend.
	Oh my god, this does.
	I do have to lose some weight.
	But I'm just saying, we're going to get you a virgin, bro.
	I know a couple.
	I know a few.
	I got a girl for you, actually.
	I got a girl for you.
	Brian's got the hookups, apparently.
	That's exactly why I came here.
	I've journeyed all the way here just for Brian to hook me up.
	Give us a double bike.
	Just a double bike with a virgin.
	No, check.
	Oh, yeah, that's going to get it.
	That's going to get it.
	That's going to get her.
	What are you talking?
	You're getting data born again.
	No, no, no.
	Fuck that shit.
	You're dating a virgin.
	You're dating a virgin.
	And it's my mission in life to make that happen.
	Fantastic.
	I love it.
	You're as committed to this, if not more, than I am, which is.
	I am your penis.
	That's like way off.
	That was kind of weird.
	Well, yeah.
	We already heard of the transparency.
	Okay, never mind.
	I definitely do.
	I very much consider body count to be something that I take into consideration very heavily.
	Me too.
	Very, very heavily.
	I pretty much think that it's sort of a half-life situation where if somebody has one, it sort of takes off 50%, and then it's like 25% after that.
	So if it's three and above, it's pretty rough.
	Easy.
	I think after this show, go find the virgin.
	I've got you multiple virgins within a fortnight.
	Done.
	One more.
	Done.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let's talk about body count, though, since you brought it up.
	Going around the table, do you think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count?
	Starting with you, go ahead.
	Yes and no.
	I don't know.
	I don't know how to explain it.
	Say it with your chest.
	Tell us how you really feel.
	Go ahead.
	Well, personally, I care.
	I wouldn't prefer, like, I would prefer to someone have like a lower body count versus like, I fucked 700 people.
	You know, it's like, whoa, like, what are you maybe giving me?
	I would prefer a lower one.
	I also like doing things with someone for the first time.
	I feel like it's.
	I don't know.
	I'm sorry.
	This is good.
	Yeah.
	Do you, you, your thoughts on, like, do you think men are insecure if they care about the woman's body count?
	No.
	Okay.
	Abby?
	I don't know.
	What was the question?
	Can you repeat it?
	No, you tell me what it was.
	Do I care if a man's body count is high?
	Wait, we're getting some audio.
	Andrew, are we getting?
	Do you have any audio issues from us, Andrew, on your end?
	Some people in the chat are saying audio issues.
	They're probably drolling.
	There's nothing on my end.
	Okay.
	Guys, just refresh the chat, I guess.
	People are saying chat, the audio is fine.
	So what was it?
	No.
	Do you think guys are insecure if they care about a woman's body count?
	I don't know.
	Abigail, stop looking at your titties in the screen and pay attention to the show.
	Go ahead.
	This whole show, she's fucking adjusting her titties.
	Oh, I gotta make sure they're popping out enough.
	Come on, Abigail.
	Okay, you gotta pay attention.
	No, because I've self-advertised.
	I don't know.
	ADD Abigail.
	ADHD Abigail.
	Yeah, no, because I don't know some of these words you guys are saying, if I'm going to be completely honest.
	Oh, like the?
	Like, no.
	Like, what was the word you were saying?
	Like, for like 20 minutes?
	I don't know any of that conversation that you guys said.
	I don't know what that one was about.
	But.
	No, okay.
	But, guys, I dyed my hair blonde for a reason.
	Anyways, no, I don't know, because my body count's only one, so I haven't really.
	What's the reason?
	What was that?
	Those like stereotypes, like, you're normally kind of blonde.
	Like, she's a blonde.
	She's dumb, you know?
	I guess she's saying she's a blonde.
	Anyways, blondes are dumb.
	No, they're like, it's like stereotypes, you know?
	Wait, so you're not a natural blonde and you're calling blondes dumb.
	No.
	Is that what's going on?
	I'm saying it's stereotypical.
	Don't offend him.
	I'm so offended, guys.
	Super offended.
	Super offended.
	Okay.
	Do you think men are insecure if they care about body count?
	That's the question.
	Well, I haven't dealt with men caring about their body count because mine's only one.
	So like when I tell them about it, they're like, How about this?
	What if you had a girlfriend who had like a body count of 20 and like she encountered problems?
	Like she would tell guys and the guys would lose interest.
	Do you think that would be insecure of the guy?
	No, because I'd probably not be friends with that girl.
	Because she's a whore?
	Oh, I mean, because she's.
	Hey, you know, that's a word.
	Yeah, just because, like, I like being friends with people with like this.
	You meant to say strumpet.
	I meant to say strumpet.
	Like, I like being friends with people with like the same values as me and like around like the same age as me.
	And I feel like being 18 and having like that many bodies is kind of crazy.
	Like, that's like one every year.
	Wait, so.
	Don't you do OnlyFans?
	Well, yeah, but that doesn't mean you have to actively.
	So what are your values?
	Would you say?
	Damien, can you open the little corner?
	I don't know.
	You value keeping your body count low.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Very interesting.
	You like to be around people who have your same values.
	Like, the man that I dated for two years, I literally made him wait seven months until I had sex with him.
	Like, he was like, oh, let's do it.
	I was like, no, you can wait.
	And then I turned 16 and I was like, okay, I'm 16 now, I guess.
	But I wouldn't do it until I turned 16 because I was like, that's weird.
	I'm 15.
	That's weird.
	I'm not going to tell my kid I lost it at 15.
	Then they will think it's okay to do it at 15.
	I was like, that's too young.
	I thought 16 was okay.
	But I don't know.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	Okay.
	Here, we'll get everybody else's answers.
	What about you?
	Do you think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count?
	I'm going to be honest.
	On the paper, I had said, yes, it's insecure.
	But if I think about like a guy, if I meet a guy, I don't really care.
	Like, I don't, that's none of my business.
	I don't care.
	So I don't think, I don't think he should be nosy enough to be like, what's your body count?
	It's like, no, don't ask me.
	You don't think that's a question that guys should ask their significant other?
	It's just like, am I going to ask you?
	Like, obviously, I don't like a guy that's burnt, that's burnt out.
	No.
	And I expect him to be like, I don't want a girl that's burned out either, but I just, I'm not going to go and poke at it and be like, how many, you know, brows have you been with?
	Like, I'm just, I don't know.
	That's very interesting.
	I feel like that should be a pretty much mandatory.
	No, it's, I mean, it is important, but it's just, you, you, you're, I don't know.
	Some guys, I don't know.
	I just.
	What's your answer?
	So they hate isolate your experience, but when they taste the new experience, this is the real true.
	So yes, they hate.
	They hate when you have experience or whatever you can in, but when they taste your experience, they like it.
	Oh, okay.
	So she's saying, she's saying that they say that they value purity, but they actually like experience.
	When you show it to them, yeah, but you know what I really like?
	If you get the experience from them, and then you still become experienced.
	Not really, not really, not really.
	In my country, it's not like that.
	Yes, in my country, not like that.
	More experienced, more spicy than we are.
	Spain is an existing values, a Catholic country.
	It's been this way forever and ever.
	Like, what are you talking about?
	Yes, it does.
	It has the same values.
	They still value body count.
	They still don't like promiscuity.
	Like, that's pure cope.
	Pure cope.
	But don't you think the men that are enjoying you having experience are the ones that are looking for the hookup?
	They're not the ones that are looking for a long-term relationship.
	Why we have to thinking about topics doesn't exist?
	Why you have to say, oh, yes, I just, I've been with one.
	And after, when you are in the action, you are, you have, you have to be with 10,000.
	That doesn't matter.
	So, doesn't matter.
	And you mind, maybe the girl has 10,000.
	But in the moment, do you like it?
	What happened?
	I don't understand that.
	But yes, some men matter, like you.
	It's really funny.
	So in other countries, I hear this all the time from women.
	They'll go, well, American women will come here and they'll say, oh, people in my country don't even care.
	Like the men in my country, they don't even care about body count.
	And then Europeans will come here and be like, oh, in my country, the men there don't even care about body count.
	It's all hoco.
	I'm just gonna like, I'm just gonna point this out.
	It's literally prostitute cope when they say that shit.
	It's like, obviously in America, men care about it.
	Obviously, in Spain, they care about it.
	In France, they care about it.
	In England, they care about it.
	But for some reason, even women from the US will go to a European country and be like, oh, yeah, men in the United States, they don't care about it at all.
	It's like, yeah, they do.
	They do care about it.
	Like, they really do.
	I don't know where this comes from.
	Like, why?
	I don't know why this phenomenon happens.
	I respect the point.
	I respect your point.
	Absolutely.
	But my experience, from our own experience, I don't have to even talk for how many men's I've been.
	But when they taste me, oh, nice.
	So this is double double.
	Well, yeah, I'm sure that they like having sex with you, but that doesn't mean that they would prefer that you hadn't had sex with anybody except them.
	Yes, but you know what I'm saying?
	Yes, but you don't have to show that person euphoria you have a lower experience.
	It depends how you're acting.
	What is matter if you have a really good experience to have sex?
	What is matter?
	I don't know.
	Well, it matters.
	You will be staying with my past.
	You will be staying with my past or with me.
	I don't know, I understand.
	Oh, well, let me explain it to you.
	So the thing is, is this is something biologically hardwired.
	So the thing of paternity tests is that they're new.
	This is a brand new technology.
	How in the world would you know if a child was yours before the invention of the paternity test?
	Well, you would know because the woman was chaste.
	She was pure.
	She was a virgin.
	You were the only one she'd ever been with.
	So if that was the case, they would even test for it, right?
	They would test to make sure the hymen was intact.
	She was a virgin.
	Why?
	Because it assured paternity.
	It assured that your child was actually yours.
	The thing is, is like, now, now that may not be the case, right?
	Number seven.
	No veo una mía aquí, güey.
	La número seven.
	No veo nada.
	Tú eres número siete.
	Ahorita te lo voy a poner en español.
	No, I don't see anything.
	Show the comment.
	And he told you that you're a fraud.
	What?
	Perdona, perdona, perdona.
	Yoonos oyene verguenza parax salutamentenadí.
	Si la vergüenza la tienes cargada en la frente, ese es tu problema.
	We take this break here at Telemundo to do we finish going around the table now.
	Oh, no, no.
	I thought you were just in time.
	Do you think men are insecure if they care about body count?
	I think it depends on the guy.
	If it's, for example, your situation, you your body count is zero, so it's fair for you to say, I care about what somebody else is.
	His body count's 100, and he doesn't want to date a girl who has a body count higher than 10.
	Then that's just being a hypocrite.
	Yes.
	Yeah, I really like how you said that.
	I think it just depends.
	It depends who you are.
	I can't break that down because I'm going to expect someone to have none.
	But if I can have you break that down for me, I understand that better.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	So I think it just depends.
	You just can't be a hypocrite about it.
	It doesn't make, I don't think that's hypocritical.
	How is it?
	I don't think that's it.
	How is it not hypocritical?
	But how is it?
	That's like, why would I expect you to do something when I couldn't do it myself?
	Yeah, my God.
	Well, so I guess there's, so let's say, how about this?
	Would it still be hypocritical if the guy has a high body count, but he's no longer promiscuous?
	Just when you have a high body count doesn't mean you're promiscuous.
	I mean, if you fucked up.
	It doesn't always, I mean, it can mean that.
	You were promiscuous at some point.
	But so, okay.
	Let's say he is, you know, he's 30.
	He ran through a bunch of chicks when he was like in his early 20s.
	Past five years, he's been in like long-term relationships, dates 1% of the time.
	And do you think it's hypocritical then?
	Yeah.
	Why would it be hypocritical?
	Because if a girl has the same amount of bodies as him, then it should be fair.
	It shouldn't have to matter.
	So you should have to date her?
	What if she's no longer promiscuous, too?
	Like they both had a value channel.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	What if they both had the same value?
	Well, he could still not want to date her because of her past.
	That would be a good thing.
	Yeah, that would be hypocritical.
	wouldn't be hypocritical because they're going through the same situation but he's expecting wait so So, hold on.
	So, if I, hang on, I just want to make sure I got this right.
	If my five-year-old wants to smoke and says, Dad, I want to smoke, and I say, you can't smoke.
	Am I a hypocrite?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's hypocrisy to you?
	If you said you can't smoke.
	So if a really fat person's on a treadmill and looks over at another really fat person and says, hey, if you lose weight, it would be really good for you.
	That person's a hypocrite.
	Yes.
	Yeah, that's not what hypocrisy means.
	Hypocrisy is just a chilly child.
	That's a different situation, though.
	We're talking about if we're in the same situation, if we're the same age, we have the same body count.
	Why should it matter if my body count is the same as you?
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	That's not the same as hypocrisy.
	Wait, there's nothing hypocritical.
	I feel like the two fat people are in the exact same situation as you.
	And then saying my preference still, even though I'm in the same situation as you, is that I have a woman with a lower body count.
	That's not hypocritical.
	I got this really easily here.
	Really simple.
	My current state of affairs, I have a penis.
	Is it hypocritical for me to not want to date somebody with a penis?
	Didn't you say you would take it?
	How is that even?
	Is it hypocritical?
	My current status is as somebody who is in possession of a penis.
	Whoa, that sounds weird.
	You're just going down the hall.
	We're going way.
	No, but am I a hypocrite for not wanting to date somebody who has a penis?
	No, but biologically, that's not how you're wired.
	Well, men and women are different, but even then, it's not hypocrisy.
	Yeah, hypocrisy, the idea of hypocrisy is that you're pretending something.
	So it's pretending to have a value which you don't have.
	So if you actually have a high body count, but you have a value that having a high body count is bad, so therefore other people shouldn't have a high body count, you're not being a hypocrite.
	Andrew, how am I not a hypocrite?
	Andrew, can I ask you a question?
	Would this be Andrew?
	Let me ask you a question.
	Would this be hypocrisy?
	A guy says that he doesn't want to sleep with women who have blonde hair, but then he sleeps with women who have blonde hair.
	Would that be hypocrisy?
	Yeah, because now he's pretending that he has a value he doesn't have.
	So hypocrisy, the idea behind hypocrisy is that you're pretending a value.
	You're pretending a value forward.
	So I wish you would really stop speaking Spanish in the backspace.
	It's not Telemundo TV.
	ICE will be here soon.
	So anyway, get a job joking, relax.
	I'm just trying to say like the crosstalk's super distracting.
	So anyway, the point is, is like, yeah, there has to be some pretense in there, right?
	You're pretending some set of values.
	So hypocrisy would be the act of pretending to have beliefs or qualities that you don't actually have.
	So for instance, I could be a person who murdered and then say, look, you shouldn't murder, right?
	I do have the value that you shouldn't murder, even if I have murdered.
	That's not hypocrisy.
	People use it incorrectly all the time.
	Okay, wait.
	For my oh, sorry, Oxcatso donated 200.
	Yo, Kat, thank you so much.
	Your past is part of you.
	Body count matters.
	304 apologists are a key.
	Yo, Kat, W's in the chat for Kat.
	She's part of our Discord.
	Thank you, Kat.
	Really appreciate it.
	Thank you for the TTS.
	Here, how about a couple clarifying questions?
	Let's say there's a woman who is not a professional athlete, but she wants to date a guy who is a professional athlete.
	Is she a hypocrite?
	It would be hypocritical if she wasn't in some semblance of physical good shape, I guess.
	Yeah.
	Like some type of physical.
	Yeah, I don't think that's a good idea.
	That would make her hypocritical.
	If you're valuing a physical attribute like physical fitness, but you're displaying a professional athlete.
	So that comes with, it's not just your physical looks.
	That comes with status, comes with money.
	Okay, well, then maybe not that explicitly, but I guess more so if we were going to talk about promiscuity as a value, like if you value virtue, but you're acting in your life promiscuously, you can't expect to date someone that also has that value of virtue if you're not.
	Does that make sense?
	You're verbalizing a value, but you're acting differently.
	So if you ask that person you're going to date to have that value, what if your value is men have a high body count, that's fine, but women have a high body count, that's not fine.
	That's my value.
	I'm not pretending anything.
	Those are conflicting values.
	If your value is how are they conflicting?
	Where's the conflict?
	Well, because if you value virtue, it should matter for both people.
	Well, it's not because I value virtue.
	Perhaps it's just a preference.
	My preference is that women have a low body count.
	Don't care if men do.
	I'm not pretending anything.
	There's no pretense there.
	So since I'm not pretending anything, I'm not faking anything.
	I'm telling you exactly what my preference is.
	Where's the hypocrisy?
	Well, preferences, I would say, are different than values.
	So you would have to ask, like, why do you care about this specific thing?
	Well, I don't think that absent you putting all of your values on like a deity or an unchanging standard, then all of your values just come down to preferences anyway.
	So if they're changeable, meaning they're changeable, if your morals are changeable morals, then they're just, they just come down to preferences, right?
	So it's all just what you prefer, what you don't prefer.
	So it's so then why wouldn't that be her preference if she's not promiscuous anymore?
	Yeah, it wouldn't matter if I said my value structure was I don't care if men have a high body count.
	I do care if women have a high body count.
	That's my actual value.
	What is the hypocrisy?
	So if a woman had a high body count but wanted a virgin man, is she not a hypocrite either?
	Is that just a preference?
	If that's her actual value, yes.
	Wait, how about this?
	There's no actual hypocrisy there unless you're pretending something.
	So now if you said nobody should have a high body count while you were racking your own body count up, yeah, that would be hypocrisy, right?
	Because now you have expressed what the value is and you're pretending.
	It's clear that you're pretending.
	So that would be hypocrisy.
	You see what I'm saying?
	Yeah, I see what you.
	It's one person versus the general population.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	So what about this?
	We were talking about like who should pay on a date, for example.
	If a woman wants a man to pay for the first date, is she a hypocrite if she's not willing to pay for the first date?
	A little bit.
	How would that make a woman a hypocrite?
	I think if you're similar to like how he was just saying, if you're speaking generally, that's a little hypocritical.
	But if she's saying that's how she specifically wants to move in her dating relationship, then that's a preference.
	But if you said that as a general statement, that is hypocritical.
	So if she made a general statement saying men, not just for me, but men in general, should pay for first dates, but she's not willing to pay for first dates, that makes her a hypocrite.
	Yeah, if you're saying that like a man should and a woman shouldn't, like there's not really a good enough reason.
	Okay, so men should not do anything and women should not do anything.
	I don't think you would have problems.
	Earlier, you said men should be chivalrous.
	Oh my God, nobody's going to win this fucking argument.
	I'm about to.
	I've already bought it.
	It's not about you don't.
	It's about you should do it out of.
	Because you're a man?
	No, because, well, no, it's not about being a man.
	It's about providing.
	How do I word this?
	Because I value treating other people how I would want to be treated, that's how I would move through my personal life.
	So it's not about.
	So there's perfect reciprocity and asymmetry in everything you do when it comes to like dating.
	Well, no, because I can acknowledge areas in which I'm hypocritical and I will just say like, this is an area in which I'm being delusional.
	You can either comply to the delusion or not.
	But I also would comply to other people's delusions if like the bow thing, a little delusional, but if it makes you happy, I don't care.
	No, I don't think it's delusional.
	I think it's super...
	It's not delusional, and I'll tell you why.
	First off, a girl who actually likes you, she'll do that shit instantly.
	Like, if she really likes you.
	How's it delusional?
	Well, because why are you doing it?
	Why are those other cultures doing it?
	Why do most people have people bow?
	There's usually a cultural relevance to it, right?
	But you're doing it because it makes you feel a certain way.
	What do you mean?
	I mean, it doesn't, it makes you feel good, so you ask your girlfriend to do that, right?
	Well, typically, she just does it.
	I don't even need to ask her.
	She just does that shit.
	But I don't understand your position, really.
	Like, how's it Dolulu?
	A little.
	Okay.
	I wouldn't expect the guy to pay for me on the first date just because of how I live my lifestyle, but I'm not going to go on a second date with someone who doesn't pay for the first date.
	I don't expect it.
	I don't deserve it, but does that make sense?
	So you do expect it then.
	If you want to date me, I do kind of expect it.
	You've just contradicted yourself.
	Okay, but I guess the difference is entitlement.
	I wouldn't be mad or like, oh my gosh, he didn't pay if they didn't pay.
	I would just say, okay, this isn't the relationship for me.
	This isn't the relationship dynamic for me.
	But that would only apply to the first date because then I wouldn't mind going 50-50 because of the first time.
	So just to be clear.
	So you don't expect men to pay for the first date, but that would be the end.
	So you do expect.
	it depends on if there's a lot of other really great qualities that wouldn't be a deal breaker but like you literally hold on don't walk back your position you're Your position was there would not be a second date if he doesn't pay for the first.
	You literally just said that.
	Don't walk back your own position.
	There's traditional things that if a man didn't do that, I would not go on a second date with them.
	So you expect them to pay for the date?
	Not necessarily date, but I not pay for the date because I also have a job.
	But like, I expect him to hold the door open for me and hold the door open.
	Do you hold the door open for men?
	Well, no, but.
	Oh, you're a hypocrite.
	Yeah.
	No, but I don't think you're a hypocrite, but like using your own framework, you would consider yourself a hypocrite because you're not.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I am hypocritical in that context.
	How about this?
	How about this?
	I'm trying to think.
	I want my future girlfriend, wife, whatever.
	Well, I'm not getting married.
	That's another conversation.
	I want her to.
	I just feel like there's different social media.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Sorry.
	want her to carry our future child am i a hypocrite for myself being unwilling to this is actually a dog shit Am I a hypocrite?
	I don't know.
	That's maybe a dog shit.
	That's maybe a dog shit.
	I don't know.
	It just came to my head.
	It's interesting because she like admits that she's hypocritical and valuable to find the people that I don't think it look.
	How about this?
	I don't think it makes you hypocritical because I don't think that in order to desire something in a potential partner, boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever it is, I don't think in order to desire it, you need to possess that trait.
	That doesn't make you hypocritical.
	Like there's plenty of things that men want in women that they don't have, and then there's things that men want in women that wait, did I just did I say it twice?
	I get what you're saying, but I would, yeah, but when it comes to values, I would disagree with you.
	No, I said it correct.
	And it's like, okay, you want, maybe you want a guy who's really, hold on.
	Do you think most women are attracted to confident men?
	Yes.
	Do you think women who maybe lack confidence, would they be hypocritical for desiring a man who's confident?
	I don't think that makes a girl hypocritical.
	I just think there are certain things that make men attractive that women are going to be attracted to.
	Whether they possess that trait or not, it wouldn't make them a hypocrite.
	I don't think it makes you hypocritical for wanting somebody to pay for the first date.
	I don't think that's just an answer.
	No, I think it is for me, but that's because I'm promiscuous.
	But that's just my personal standpoint.
	Wait, you're when you say you're promiscuous, like you're saying you deserve other men?
	I would say that if I was if I was theoretically in the dating market and I and someone like cared about body count and we like went on a date and that was a big deal for them, I don't pay for the date.
	I will pay for the date or I'll pay for half.
	I just want to get out of the sky.
	When you say you're promiscuous, you've been in a relationship for 12 years.
	Are you sleeping with other men?
	We sleep with other people together.
	Together?
	Never apart.
	I've slept with women by myself, just me and my men.
	But you have three sons then?
	More?
	Four sums, orgies?
	Like swingers.
	Are you a swinger?
	I mean, we don't.
	We're always together, so yes.
	Abigail, stop looking at your tits.
	I wasn't chill, Abigail.
	Chill.
	Bro, I wasn't.
	I'm just.
	It's crazy.
	No.
	I think you're looking.
	No, I just glued to the screen.
	Oh my god.
	He's looking at her looking.
	Put your whole chest in someone's face.
	You're like, why are you looking?
	Bro, her mic is covering them if you want to be frank.
	Are you upset by that?
	Yeah.
	Tell us how you're doing.
	If we're being honest, like she's only taking the spot in the other room.
	I mean, go to the other Switch cams.
	Yeah, see?
	I can't even stare at my tits in this frame.
	Well, they're most likely looking at hers.
	Like if we're being real.
	Wait, so you do sleep with other men, though, but with your partner.
	Does he sleep with men too?
	He's does no, but he's there when.
	So he watches.
	Has his penis ever touched another penis?
	There's been two penises in one girl's mouth.
	I think that's how it works.
	So yeah.
	That is.
	No, they like both fuck you, but they don't fuck each other.
	Yeah, correct.
	Or like, I love women, so I also like to fuck with other things.
	You know, it is what it is, you know?
	There's a type of thing I say, there was like in like the little, I was just going to say, like, social norms, I think, was like what you guys are going to set.
	Like, why do I say like so much?
	I never thought I said that until you brought that up.
	Now I'm like overthinking.
	That's just self-conscious.
	Yeah.
	I'm just trying to help you.
	That's all.
	We're just helping you out, Abby.
	But what's like a good filler word?
	Instead of saying like, skip it.
	How about just don't say filler words and just say the actual words?
	Okay, so chat GPT.
	I know.
	I need A out of the words.
	But what I was going to say was, maybe I should just skip it.
	No, what I was going to say was like social norms.
	No, stop.
	What I was going to say is like, I think you guys were just saying like social norms.
	So like you want someone to like pay for dinners.
	You want someone to like open the like the door.
	And then you just want someone with like a low body count.
	We need a light cat.
	Yes.
	And wash the clothes.
	Does that make sense?
	Or is like my brain not braining?
	Well, there are social norms.
	It's braining.
	But there's also a few more social norms that I don't abide by.
	Like is that what I picked up?
	Just by hearing all of you, please go to therapy.
	All of us, including myself.
	All of us.
	Let's get a fucking day.
	Nah, hell no.
	I went better.
	Do the investment, all of you.
	Please.
	I went to therapy and my therapist.
	Get us a free trial, please, after the show today.
	Nah.
	I went to therapy.
	I think we all need a little bit of a test.
	I am not paying a liberal money to listen to me complain.
	No.
	That's why he's looking for the girlfriend.
	I went to therapy and my therapy happened to me.
	I wasn't depressed and I was wasting his time.
	And then he told me I couldn't take therapy anymore.
	I will say there is such thing as bad therapists.
	Therapy is Red Dead Redemption 2 and all of those things.
	Then go meditate at the beach or something.
	Think life over.
	Andrew, who here is currently in therapy?
	No.
	Not no more.
	Therapy.
	Therapy.
	Tarquavia.
	I can't afford therapy.
	Therapy.
	You're in therapy?
	Therapy?
	I don't think I do.
	Okay.
	Who here has ever been in therapy?
	Just show of hands.
	I went once.
	One time?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I had to.
	And then he told me I didn't need it.
	My mom forced me to go after I got cheated on.
	Because I wouldn't leave my room for like two weeks.
	Damn.
	Yeah.
	Good times.
	Yeah.
	Good times.
	All right.
	Okay.
	We have a chat.
	Oh, actually, hold on before we get into this.
	Actually, I'll let this.
	Dayvon.
	Dayvon.
	Good to see you in the chat, man.
	Hope your 2025 is good.
	W's in the chat for Dayvon.
	He's an OG.
	It would only be hypocritical if I, as a high-body count man, who wanted a low-body count woman to tell a high-body count woman that she couldn't prefer low-body count men.
	That's also, yes, well put, Dayvon.
	That's like a ton of sugar.
	If he tells another girl that has body count that she wants a man with low body count, that'd be hypocritical.
	You just confuse that.
	Everybody does that.
	Yeah, that concept would seem to have a value.
	W's in the chat for Dave.
	Well, how about this?
	Going around the table, last thing on the body count discussion.
	What's your body count?
	Next question.
	Why?
	That's just, we're talking about body count.
	What's your body count?
	Here, you start, Abigail.
	Abigail.
	Okay, you go.
	Zero.
	What am I supposed to follow up with that?
	The truth.
	Okay, well, let's try.
	I will set you free.
	I know.
	Okay, I have.
	Okay.
	Five.
	Okay.
	That's not bad.
	That's fine.
	Good job.
	Proud of you.
	Very good.
	What about you?
	More than 40, not more than 50.
	Including women.
	Just men or also like women as well.
	Okay.
	D?
	Big D?
	It's still 12.
	Still 12?
	Okay.
	I am turista and I don't even remember.
	You're a tourist?
	Yes, Ayan Tourista.
	Don't speak English.
	How about this?
	Give us a range.
	A what?
	A range.
	Like, is it from 10 to 20.
	10 to 20.
	I mean, I don't really just sleep with anyone, so I'm very thankful.
	It's 100.
	Hey, no.
	That's what I thought.
	That's literally me.
	That's me figuring out when we're going to be done with this conversation.
	Trace, coatro, cinco.
	No se.
	No se.
	No se valley con dios.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	That's the extent of my Spanish.
	Donde estad la biblioteca.
	I knew you were going to say that.
	Donde salari lo tica interesante.
	No.
	Ayanturistan.
	I'm sorry.
	So you've like, hey, she got a silent one.
	It just tipped out.
	Nina, what about you?
	Single digits.
	Nine.
	I can't say a specific number.
	I might have family watching this.
	Yes.
	So I don't, you know, it's a little personal.
	Brandon.
	Zero.
	I gotta wait until what's her name's back.
	But I don't know.
	For everybody here.
	Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
	That's the real zero.
	I literally have my list of money.
	I'm thinking how you lost that spatial suggestion.
	I still think of that.
	How you kind of wake up.
	She got up quick.
	She got up quick when it was a bad thing.
	Not quick.
	Not quick.
	I tried to bring you back.
	Adrian.
	Damn.
	Okay, let's get.
	What's your body count, Brian?
	I'm a virgin.
	Exactly.
	I'm a virgin.
	Zero.
	So speaking.
	You didn't clap the girl's cheeks.
	You bowed.
	She bowed, man.
	Yeah, you're just virgin.
	It's very virgin.
	I figure.
	It's very hypocritical of you not to answer.
	Yep.
	That's why he was so excited.
	Yep.
	Anyways, it's not even hypocritical of him not to answer because what Brian says.
	Oh, I was joking.
	Brian says, hang on.
	But I bet this is going to be a bit of a drink.
	Here we go with another debate.
	It's actually not hypocritical.
	The value here is that women tend to not give a shit about men's body count, but men do tend to give a shit about women's body count.
	I think women care about men's body count.
	I don't think that they do.
	Oh my god, I think it's such an AI country.
	I think they do.
	Not only is it not what the polling shows, but because it's a non-penetrative act from a woman's perspective, they seem to care about it far less.
	I think hoes are drawn to hoes and non-hoes are drawn to non-hoes.
	Yeah, I would agree.
	This is a surprising answer to hear from this panel.
	I would.
	Do you think they're just capping, Brian?
	No, I think even promiscuous men.
	I think promiscuous men, because they've dealt with so many women and they've had so much experience, they're going to be like, bro, dealing with promiscuous women is a problem.
	And so as whether you're a man or a woman, you always want to get the best that you can get, right?
	And so the reality is, like it just happens to be the case, like low body count women, they're going to...
	Higher social status.
	Yeah.
	If you have a low-body count as a woman, you have a higher social status.
	If you have a high body count as a man, it doesn't negatively affect your social status whatsoever.
	Also, hold on, she's over there eating cookies.
	Hey, give me a cookie, bro.
	Bring all of us cookies, girl.
	Her cookie counts.
	Bring those cookies over here.
	That's crazy, bro.
	She's got a thousand-plus cookie count.
	She's going to fall asleep at that point.
	Oh, okay.
	I know.
	Right, right.
	Because the body count question was coming.
	That's what I'm saying.
	She had to go grab cookie counts.
	Oh, we need.
	Oh, those aren't like the home.
	Those aren't home bait.
	Those are like the ones for emergencies.
	She's got an emergency cookie stash.
	Body count?
	We went in the middle.
	Everybody, that's why you got up, right?
	Everybody already answered.
	Do you want to just body count?
	How about this range?
	Tell us the range.
	Is it more than 100?
	No.
	You don't sound you didn't look very convinced.
	I'm just saying.
	No, it's really not.
	Is it?
	Give us a range.
	How about that?
	Is that fair?
	No.
	Tell you what.
	If you answer this question, I will give you a $2 bill.
	Do you know how much this is worth?
	Nothing.
	Not in this economy.
	Well, it's worth something.
	I can't even get a coffee with that.
	You can definitely get coffee with that.
	You can sell this.
	You can sell a $2 bill on eBay.
	You're going to have to give her an iPhone 16 with TikTok down.
	I already have one.
	How about this?
	Do you see this card of Robert Lewandowski when he was playing for Barocious?
	No, what are you doing?
	I don't even know who that is.
	Yeah, who is that?
	Who is that?
	It's like turning down a card of babe Ruth.
	Literally.
	Literally?
	Lewandowski.
	Okay.
	Will you guys reveal for a $2 bill?
	Wow.
	You guys just don't know the value of a buck.
	I have so many $2 bills at my house.
	I'm good.
	Yeah, but you don't have that.
	Nobody asked your opinion, sir.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm working with the cash.
	I has a caputa.
	I'm working with the cash, with the money.
	That's why I have to do it.
	You steal from the ATMs?
	No, no, no.
	Thank God.
	Thank God.
	They've got a good job.
	God bless me with a good body.
	But he has tens, fives, tens, twenties, hundreds, not $2 bills.
	You don't keep me.
	She's a little hesitant to answer that body count question.
	You know, I will say that, you know, virtuous women, they do care about a man's body count.
	It's what I see in the church.
	So, you know, I wouldn't say that blatant statement that, you know, women don't care about men's body count at all because the lower body counts.
	I think she's gone from the table right now.
	I think women care less about it.
	There's definitely women who care about it, 100%.
	But I think, generally speaking, women care less about it.
	And then also, I do think it's the case that probably a promiscuous woman, she's not going to have like a satisfying sexual encounter with a man who's sexually inexperienced.
	But a man who's sexually experienced is going to have, can have a really good sexual encounter with a woman who's got no experience or minimal sexual experience.
	So it's like, you can just throw me under the bus like that, Brian.
	It's like a lot of these girls, like once they've had sex and they're just, you know, it's not a big deal to them.
	It's like they probably are going to prioritize like the quality, like the, not to say that you'd be bad in bed.
	Like, I think there's a sex is going down the hole.
	Hold on.
	You're like going spiraling.
	Look, sex is people been fucking forever.
	Sex is not a complicated procedure.
	It's not a complicated procedure, but yeah, especially in this day and age with, you know, porn and like shows like hire someone.
	And over sexualize this society.
	Sex coach.
	Yeah, but also like also, I think you can ask a guy, even for a one-night stand, if a guy has an option between a girl who's a virgin and a girl who has a hundred bodies, the dudes are going to pick the girl who's a virgin.
	Point blank, period.
	Point blank, period.
	Period.
	Okay, good talk.
	Good talk, guys.
	No, but what I'm saying is that, you know, a lot of men, you know, a lot of men, you know, they say they prefer like virgin woman, low body count woman, but does that woman want you?
	Does she want a promiscuous man?
	Is that what she wants?
	And the answer is most of the time, no.
	Oh, I mean, look, if a woman's a virgin or has a low body count and she doesn't want to date a man who's got a past, totally fine.
	No problem with that.
	Yeah.
	So all my, you know, you're saying like overall, most men care about body count and a low body count woman, but does she want you?
	And you're not going to get the woman that you want.
	So I think what matters most at the end of the day is the person that they are now.
	I don't know if that's even true.
	No, because, well, I'm Christian.
	So I believe like once someone repents, that you know, they're made new.
	So they still got bodies.
	Well, it depends.
	Like, are they healed from that?
	Like, they may still carry it.
	Probably not.
	I've seen it.
	Deep in the dark, deep in the dark recesses of a born-again virgin's mind.
	Deep, deep, I don't really believe in that term, born-again virgin.
	Like, I've never used that.
	Oh, no, whatever.
	What did you, what was the term you used?
	Repent?
	Yeah, repent.
	Yeah.
	She's repentant.
	Yeah.
	She's repented many times.
	Many times.
	She even confessed.
	No, repent is when you turn from it completely.
	Like, there's not like I feel bad.
	It's in there.
	It's in the dark recesses.
	You don't think that it do you think that a man would or shouldn't take that into consideration?
	No, he should definitely take it into consideration.
	What I'm saying is what matters most are the person that they are now.
	Like, what do you see in front of you?
	Because we could say, like, yeah, I want this, this, and that, and a checklist.
	But when it comes down to it, when you meet someone you really like, you're not going to care that she has like four, you know, four body count when you want no more than three.
	Like, you know what I'm saying?
	I think four is acceptable.
	So what's unacceptable, what's like the limit?
	She's five.
	So what?
	What's the limit?
	What's unacceptable?
	I don't know, whatever your body count is.
	I don't know.
	You won't reveal.
	I'm ready to bang my head on this fucking table with you guys' conversation.
	You love it, don't you?
	Hilarion.
	Get it over with.
	I mean, look, it depends on your age.
	I don't know.
	Tell me your body count, and I'll tell you if it's too high.
	How about that?
	Oh, my God.
	Is it double digit?
	How about that?
	I'm not saying anything.
	That's like, yes.
	Okay.
	It's all good.
	It's okay, Adriana.
	With that, if someone chooses to repent, this is just my opinion.
	I don't know if there's any scientific evidence to back this up, but I do believe that they should be absent for a period of time depending on how many people they slept with.
	So if they slept with like a lot of people, then you should be absent for a few years to try to repair that relationship with sex because you can't just go like banging and then be like, oh, I repent.
	And then, you know, suddenly, you know, you're celebrating.
	Like, you need time to repair that relationship with sex and yourself and spiritually.
	She makes a valid point.
	Yeah, that's true.
	That's fine.
	But I think to your point, like, okay, we got Brandon here, and it's like, a girl could have done that.
	She slept with 20 dudes, but she like repented.
	She's been abstinent for three years or whatever.
	I don't think there's anything wrong with Brandon saying, cool.
	Like, I don't think there's any sort of, what's the term for it?
	Like, both things can be true.
	Like, can she be forgiven?
	Can she be a Christian?
	Absolutely.
	Doesn't mean that he is obligated to date her.
	No, of course not.
	But he can use that as a metric to be like, I don't want to date you because of this.
	No, of course.
	But what I'm saying is when you really like someone, you're going to look at the person who they are now compared.
	So like we say, we could say, like, oh, this matters so much.
	Like, yeah, he may still choose to say, you know, I don't want to date a girl that slept with 20 dudes, even if that is in her past.
	And if she repented, but if he really liked her, he would.
	I'm not saying for you, but like just in general.
	Well, yeah, sure.
	I mean, so I agree with her.
	Yeah, men can make a determination like, oh, okay, like she's a great woman, and like in the calculus or whatever, the calculus of all the factors, then, yeah, I'm gonna accept it, I guess.
	But yeah, and obviously there's like, you know, a metric system.
	For sure, you were accepting.
	Like, let's see.
	What?
	Hell.
	But, how about this?
	Let's use like an extreme.
	Like, she has a body count of 100.
	It's over.
	No, I get that.
	But yeah, now it's like 99.
	Like, it's cool.
	No, no, no.
	Still, if it's 99, it's still over.
	Now, can she still get a guy?
	Sure.
	But what I'm saying, like, at least for my perspective, no matter how cool she is, no matter how hot she is, no matter, like, if she slept with 100 men, I don't care, like, all these other good factors.
	It's done.
	It's a wrap.
	No, any girl's going to tell you.
	I've slept with two men, and you're going to start a relationship in a lot.
	Okay, so this is my thing.
	No, how are you going to know?
	You're never going to know.
	Well, you guys are advocating for women to lie.
	She does a girl that slept with 100 men and dated.
	She's going to tell you she's only slept with two.
	And you're going to be like, okay, it's only two.
	Well, first off, terrible way to start a question.
	But that's why I'm saying what matters most is the person that is in front of you.
	Like, they could be lying about that.
	And there's no way like that.
	Oh, yeah.
	Women loved off her shit.
	Are you going to put out like a menu?
	Men always, like, what is it?
	They always times it by two.
	Is that how many men you slept with on your arm?
	Let's play your spice.
	I'm going to say this.
	I'm going to say this.
	Most women who have slept with 100 men, the way that they're moving in other ways in their life.
	You're going to know.
	She doesn't have to tell you a girl who slept with 100 men, it's going to be a little bit of a drink.
	We'll let you think that.
	We'll let you think that.
	We'll let you live in the fairy tales.
	It's all over.
	He's completely sad.
	He's completely sad.
	We have to think about how many men has one woman.
	We gotta break your head like this.
	We're gonna be on the next year alive.
	I have a question.
	One sec, one sec, one sec.
	I'll let you ask it.
	One sec.
	So many problems in the world would be fixed.
	And I'll give credit to Andrew Taylor on this one.
	You guys are.
	If women had their body count written on their forehead, all the problems of the world would be fixed.
	Same with fixed.
	There would be families and children again.
	Women would be conducting themselves properly.
	Men would be conducting themselves properly.
	It would fix everything.
	Wait, do men also have their number on their forehead?
	Can I ask my question?
	Does everyone have their number on their forehead?
	Just the women.
	Just the woman.
	Hypocritical.
	That's not hypocritical.
	Wait, so then who would be standard?
	If the women want to keep it like at zero, who would you guys sleep with?
	I guess we would.
	You have to marry the first person.
	That's what I heard.
	Look, if all women collectively were like, we're not sleeping with men until we're married, y'all would be courted like women and y'all would all be wives.
	That's a big commitment with that.
	Okay, can I ask my question?
	Got a test drive before I forget.
	Sure.
	So before we started asking this question, before I got up and left the room during the question, just look at me.
	To escape.
	To escape.
	Just looking at me, how many guys do you think I would have slept with?
	Are we counting BJs?
	Because the BJ count is higher.
	What?
	Fine, we can count it if you want to count.
	Wait, does that count with him, though?
	Yes, for sure.
	Didn't we talk about this?
	Wait.
	Have you received oral sex service?
	No.
	Nothing in the butt either.
	I was just kidding.
	The poop hole, loophole.
	That's why, that's why for you it's really high to find in San Juan because you already have your manipulations.
	And that's why it's really hard for you finding something because your level is really high.
	Wait, so can we answer the question?
	Because he's no, it's worth it.
	Why?
	What are you talking about?
	It is.
	It is.
	He wants a Christian virgin.
	Well, woman.
	He'll find it.
	Only gives him blow jobs.
	For sure.
	That only gives him blowjobs.
	That's all he wants.
	Nothing else.
	Nothing less, nothing more.
	He's laughing because he knows it's true.
	That's guilt right there, sir.
	Wait, what are you saying?
	You're saying I've gotten a VJ before?
	That's all you do.
	That's the only thing you need.
	I said, if it starts with sex, I haven't done it.
	That is not.
	In my opinion, actually, in one of my previous relationships, I was quite upset with my significant other because they, because I had asked them what their body count was, left that number out of having done other things instead of just wow.
	And that was something that I considered, I considered that a straight-up lie.
	Well, for me personally, I felt like it's excessive.
	It's like sex with you.
	Personally, I've never only given someone a blowjob.
	If I'm having sex with them, if I give him a blowjob, we're having sex.
	Exactly.
	It's a package.
	There's no fair package.
	There's no feed sped.
	If we do it, we're going all the way.
	Shit goes down, shit goes up.
	Shit is going to be a little bit more.
	You can't make him finish just.
	Hold on, here.
	What if you gave a guy that and he was like, I'm good.
	I wouldn't.
	I haven't.
	You would.
	What do you mean?
	Like, I'd never given someone a blowjob and then like not had sex with you.
	What if he was like, eh, I'm okay.
	But I won't.
	I won't give him a blowjob until we have sex first.
	Oh, the sex first.
	It's the sex first.
	The sex first.
	I need to be pleasured first.
	That's fair.
	That's fair.
	Fair deal.
	All right.
	I think.
	So what's your idea in general?
	You should give abstinence a shot.
	What's your guess?
	I agree with her.
	I do think that abstinence is the way to go.
	I mean, both on the male side.
	Sorry, Brian.
	And the female side of things.
	I am a big proponent of that.
	And this is just like my hot take, but.
	I think women should be abstinent until they meet me.
	Until they meet what?
	Until they meet me.
	That's like fair.
	Can I borrow that?
	Is that what I was going to say now?
	I know you were.
	Okay, I don't know.
	Adriana, the evasiveness has me a bit, you know, like concerned.
	Let me ask a couple questions.
	Have you ever had a threesome?
	No, with no question.
	Have you ever had a threesome?
	No.
	No.
	Have you ever had a one-night stand?
	No.
	Not intentionally.
	You had an accidental?
	No.
	I thought we were more than that, and then we just never heard from him again after.
	Good times, good times.
	Great time.
	Fallen soldier.
	The best of times.
	Have you ever?
	I have one little baby one, but it's like, it's like a meaningful one.
	What, Sky?
	What did that have to do?
	Yeah, what does that have to do?
	Listen, listen.
	What is that tattoo?
	I'm going to attack you.
	Don't judge by tattoos.
	Just looking at me right now.
	If you saw me walking on the side of the street and you saw me and you looked at me, what do you think my body count is?
	And we've also had the conversation.
	We've never had a conversation.
	And when the body count question came around, you got up.
	Before the body count question came around.
	Like a solid 18.
	Really?
	Is that too low?
	I knew.
	No, that's hot.
	No, because I've had people tell me before, like, oh, have you even, like, ever done it before?
	Oh, they think you're a virgin.
	Like, people think I'm a virgin.
	People fully think I'm a virgin.
	Okay, no, I'm curious.
	What it is.
	Yeah.
	What do you use all the time?
	How about that?
	I'm not saying anything.
	I'm not saying anything.
	What do I look like mine would be?
	You, Abigail?
	100.
	Are we for real?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You're too pretty.
	Did you?
	You're too pretty?
	I already know.
	I already know it would be high women.
	I'm not talking to you.
	If I just look at you, it's just because you're too pretty.
	Well, I think the prettier the girl, the lower the body count, typically.
	I feel like average.
	Well, so you're saying I'm ugly?
	No, not at all.
	Like Jessica.
	I didn't say that.
	Look at him.
	No, I feel like it's like the average girl who's like.
	Now you're blushing.
	I feel like it's an average girl who's kind of like insecure and she's going to fuck a bunch of dudes to like feel better about herself.
	Am I wrong?
	You think girls have sex because they're insecure?
	And you think girls have sex because they're insecure?
	Yeah, a lot of women have sex for validation.
	So why do men have sex?
	Because they want sex.
	What if you just want to get a sex?
	What if you're a woman?
	Those females do it.
	You do know that there's men that invite girls out to dinner.
	They flaunt that they're going to pay for everything because they want sex at the end of the night.
	There's a lot of men that do that just to trap girls in.
	I think deep down everybody's going to be able to do it.
	Tell me that's not what it is.
	Tell me that's not what it is.
	There's guys that will take you to the most expensive restaurant that will do the most to get girls to come out and get into that mood and they'll get them drunk and then they start, you know, they fall for it.
	There's guys that are like that.
	And you know what?
	I've been also to gay bars.
	Straight men go to gay bars to pick up drunk chicks.
	I've experienced it.
	Straight men go to, I've been hit, I go to a lot of gay bars and it's normal to come across straight men that go to these bars like freaking creeps and prey on these drunk girls.
	And they end up taking some home.
	What does that have to do with the no, no, no?
	I'm just saying, like, I mean, it got a little off topic, but there's guys, yeah, there's guys that will go out to bars to no, no, no.
	Aside from that, aside from that, what my point was at first was that there's guys that will take girls out on dates to very expensive places because they want the girl to give up.
	Make a girl fall in love and make her feel special.
	And then she's like, oh my God, he's a little bit of a drink.
	And then he gets laid.
	And then that was his only purpose.
	This is why everyone's got to wait till marriage.
	So, you know, I mean, that's the risk you take by sleeping around, though.
	No, but I'm saying there's guys that just do that.
	They're like every other girl.
	I'm not saying specifically one.
	It's just there's guys that consistently.
	Yeah, it's like every other night.
	And that's what I'm targeting right now.
	Well, I mean, look, I'll say this boy right now.
	I think me personally.
	I think that will pretend to be like, you know, Prince Charming and stuff.
	like you know mutual people so you'd probably also know that he's like oh there's just guys I'm just saying in general.
	I'm not saying like, oh, I'm dating.
	No.
	No, I'm not saying you particularly.
	Yeah, but in general, there's guys that have that strategy, is what I'm saying.
	Yeah, I don't deny that.
	I don't deny that menu.
	100%.
	I'm just saying.
	No, I wanted to women because I'm asking them, right?
	I haven't.
	You guys are talking about a bunch of nonsense, so I'm going to bring that up as well.
	Might as well say it.
	Might as well mention it.
	It happens.
	Okay, fine.
	I'll just address it.
	So is your point like men do all this stuff to try to like, maybe they like.
	Not all men.
	There's men that use that as a specific strategy to get laid.
	Okay, and so you're saying they're like misleading the woman, like they're telling the woman that he has long-term interest.
	Yes.
	Then she sleeps with him and then he's gone.
	He's gone, or he'll come back whenever he's ready to, you know, that's wrong.
	I don't think men should lie about that.
	And then also.
	Or they rely on alcohol to get girls to fuck them.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Speaking from experience, yes, absolutely.
	Okay, well, I mean, don't you maybe don't drink.
	I personally don't drink.
	And no, it's not even about the drink.
	No, but there's men out there, which are F-boys for the most part, that strategically do this kind of stuff.
	So don't you think that the correct answer to fix that would be to stay abstinent?
	Yeah, I don't, I don't, right now I'm not dating because I already know that I don't trust guys when it comes to like going out.
	Can I just say something?
	And I'm too busy.
	So I mentioned before, like I'm abstinent, right?
	And part of the reason, you know, a lot of people, when they say they're like, you know, celibate or whatever, they just say that it's like a spiritual journey and like whatever, whatever.
	Like my reasons for going abstinent were because I realized how much drama casual sex brings.
	Like for example, like emotions.
	Yeah, like, you know, feeling like, you know, possibly being used or like feeling stupid for sleeping with someone or, you know, pregnancy scares or, you know, feelings of jealousy, confusion.
	Like you're doing this very bad.
	It comes with emotions.
	Yeah.
	So that's why, that's why I decided like the sexual experience is not worth all those risks.
	I've taken my breaks.
	But is it worth that much?
	Like most of the time, like, are they like, don't look at me like that?
	So, yeah, like, I became, so it's just like a little background for me.
	Like, I first became abstinent like five years ago.
	But at first, it was for non-religious reasons, like the, you know, reasons I just stated.
	No, sometimes you just need a break.
	You just need to get a lot of stuff.
	Yeah, so two years, yeah.
	And then I became Christian.
	And then I, you know, then I finally had this firm foundation behind my beliefs.
	Like, okay, it's not just about the drama or whatever, but it's also like I'm honoring God with my body.
	Cause, you know.
	Wait, didn't you say you had a hookup like a month ago?
	I didn't hook up.
	No, that wasn't.
	No, it was just a fling.
	I didn't sleep with her.
	Okay.
	Oh, a fling.
	Coffee dates.
	A fling.
	Christian fling.
	No, just because someone has a fling doesn't mean they slept with me.
	I mean, when I think of a fling.
	Well, yeah, I know because we're definitely sexual.
	Okay, I'll just address the chicken.
	I do have to move things on, but I'll just address it.
	Oh, you have more?
	No, yeah, I just wanted to say.
	Go ahead.
	Next question.
	I mean, go ahead.
	No, you can finish your thought.
	Go ahead.
	No, yeah.
	So as I was saying, that, you know, then I had a firm foundation behind my beliefs.
	You know, there is times where I felt like I could have folded like in these certain flings, but now that I have God like behind me and those values, it's a lot easier to stick to it and not fall into temptation.
	So I do believe like everyone here should give abstinence a shot if you're not and you'll see how much peace it brings together.
	I do love how you talk and how you think.
	Yeah, but like it doesn't have to be.
	Be quiet.
	Nobody's telling you it just has to be for religious reasons.
	You can go to Japan.
	It has to be maybe stop in Barcelona.
	Ryan?
	What?
	She's going to be a little bit different.
	You go to Japan and maybe you stop in Barcelona.
	I have already a house there.
	Are you like trying to fuck me?
	No, no, no.
	No, she's going to first wash your clothes and then she's going to talk about the laundry value.
	I have to convince you.
	Take her to your laundry room.
	Go show her the laundry you got upstairs.
	I feel like there's a language barrier.
	Go show her the laundry you haven't done in three months upstairs.
	I do my laundry weekly, okay?
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, I just have one question I want to ask the panel.
	But, you know, a lot of girls, it's not just about the drama, but they also say like, oh, he was bad in bed.
	He only lasted two minutes.
	So it's like, you're risking all these things for like not even like two minutes.
	For 10 seconds of your life.
	Exactly.
	Like, well, is it really worth it?
	Like, you're risking pregnancy.
	You're risking SEDs, all the drama, and like the spiritual effects.
	Like, is it worth it for girls to have casual sex?
	Like, yeah, most of these girls don't even come.
	That's why I'm scared to have a lot of people.
	I see why I see why men don't have sex.
	But you're a virgin.
	Are you sure you are sure that's happening?
	Because I can say yes, yes, and that's ain't happening anything.
	No, he's saying they don't.
	He's saying no.
	They don't or they don't with you.
	No, they do with you.
	Yeah, my ex.
	Are you sure?
	Oh, yeah, I'm sure.
	Okay, okay.
	Bro, y'all's legs are twitching and shit.
	You can't take that.
	Okay, legs are twitching and shit.
	Me, I can't say a hundred times, yes, yes, I do.
	And I don't, I don't do anything.
	Chicks karate kick me and shit.
	Calm down, bro.
	Last thing, I want to go back to the double standards thing here.
	And it's related to this.
	Why is it?
	Is it hypocritical, for example?
	Why is it that when a man premature ejaculates, that's bad.
	But if a woman comes really quickly, like that's a good thing.
	That is so unfair and hypocritical.
	I think the real question is: did the other person finish?
	Or did they at least, you know, assist the other person to finishing?
	Regardless of when they finish.
	Yeah.
	I feel like a man, some men can't keep it up after they finish.
	So you have to give them some rejuvenation time.
	That's cool.
	Well, I'm being, I'm being for real.
	No, I know.
	It's cool.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	As long as we can go another ride.
	No, okay.
	So to your thing, to your point, really quick, then I got to get through a whole bunch of stuff.
	So I don't think men should lie about their intentions with women.
	Me personally, I've never really had an interest of just like sleeping with one girl after the other just once.
	I don't really understand the point of sleeping with a girl once, never talking to her again.
	I think that's weird.
	If I sleep with a girl, I make the decision to sleep with her.
	I just know.
	No, I know.
	It's positive.
	It's positive.
	I just respect you a lot for saying that.
	Just hold on.
	No, I'm just saying I respect you for saying that.
	I appreciate that.
	I appreciate it.
	If I sleep with a girl, I want there to be continuity.
	I don't even see the point in like a girl has to fuck up in some terrible way for me to sleep with her once and never want to deal with her again.
	I don't know what she'd have to do.
	She'd have to like sleep with someone else, not do anything.
	Sure, I don't know.
	Nausea laundry.
	Na dear laundry.
	If I make the choice to sleep with a girl, I'm going to keep seeing her.
	Now you could fuck it up, but like I'm not going to go in with the intention of, oh, I'm just going to try to sleep with this girl, never talk to her again.
	I think that's weird.
	But it's very normal.
	And I know you know that.
	Yeah.
	I think it's weird, but that's not weird.
	That's like, that's how it should be.
	I do think that's how it should be.
	So I have a question for men in general.
	Like something I never really understood is like, you know, they say men want to sleep with multiple women, but like I'm not a lesbian or a gynecologist, but like I'm sure most vaginas don't feel that much different from the next one.
	Like why do you have to sleep with so many different women?
	Actually, I'm not asking to sound crass or whatever, but I'm genuinely like it is a muscle, so it does like expand and contract.
	Okay, that one's a little bit.
	I have had at least hold on, never mind.
	But she's a little bit drier than the other girl's nigga.
	Like, they're not.
	For men, sex is like pizza.
	Even when it's bad, it's still a little bit.
	You're asking the labyrinth.
	I will say, I will say, like, the pizza, the pizza analogy.
	The pizza analogy.
	Absolutely.
	Like, it's hard to fuck up pussy.
	You know, it's hard to fuck it up.
	Most pussy is a good pussy.
	But there's some pussy that's better than other pussy.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	And they say for the dates.
	And they say for the dates.
	And they say the next one.
	Yes.
	And they say for the same.
	But this is why.
	Like men would cheat on their wives or like vagina that doesn't even feel like that much different than their wives' vagina.
	Like, I don't get it.
	There's differences.
	At least for the best.
	They're talking about it's always just the physical aspect that they cheat.
	But if you're getting it from your wife, why do you have to sleep on that?
	But I mean, by that same analogy, then they could go just watch porn.
	You know, they wouldn't have to actually go out and sleep with a whole nother woman.
	If the finishing is the goal, then wouldn't that sound like how you know?
	It definitely has to do with like ban porn.
	But yeah, I'm with her on that.
	I think we should ban porn.
	Ban porn.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And after the gers do porno and only fans dassing gang have the daily for first time pace.
	So I don't understand.
	I don't understand.
	I think it's really welcome to my Spanish English band.
	I think it's so interesting that the panel here, it seems like most people are pretty against hookup culture.
	I was not expecting that at all.
	But it does seem like, yeah, except for.
	No, I'm not pro-hookup culture.
	Okay, she's not even her.
	I think you need to be honest.
	So you think that they're completely lying.
	I always dematres.
	Hingies de matres.
	I'm a great actor.
	Thank you.
	I feel like.
	Okay, but I'm going to clarify on the modern dating culture thing that you said.
	I think that modern dating culture right now more pushes.
	It's more about the dishonesty and the lack of communication than the promiscuity that I have a problem with modern dating.
	That's beautiful.
	That's a valid point.
	I have a question.
	Hold on.
	One sec before you ask your question.
	Going to you about the vagina thing.
	Not your vagina.
	In the picture.
	Because you know, vagina in the picture.
	You know.
	Okay, the girls in the picture.
	The girls here who have had multiple partners, like who have had more than one partner, right?
	Like, have any of you landed on a dude who just did it right?
	Yeah.
	You know what I mean?
	Yep.
	And then you're comparing all like the future dudes.
	You're like, man, this new guy, he doesn't do it as good as fucking Pablo or whatever the fuck, right?
	Well, he doesn't do it as good as Gustavo.
	You know, whatever it is.
	And it's like, that can happen to men too.
	You start rolling the dice, you get a magical pussy.
	Like, you'll encounter.
	You'll encounter, like, some girls can't even, like, they can't even climax, even if you're like rubbing the clip, whatever.
	Then you got other girls who are like insanely multi-orgasmic who can come like 20 times.
	So, can I hit you with a biological fact that I learned and a psychological fact that I learned in school?
	Usually, when a girl can't come, it's because she's genuinely not interested in the guy.
	Fake news.
	And no, it's like science.
	Like, there was like no, it's fake news.
	No.
	Just by saying fake news is.
	No, it could look.
	Because I, I, when I, from personal experience myself, too, like, when I'm with someone that I don't like, why isn't God?
	Dude, hold on.
	Why are you fucking a guy you don't like?
	It was not by choice.
	Oh, right.
	Sometimes happen.
	Sometimes happen to you too.
	You too, too.
	That's hard.
	Sometimes you fucking can somebody you didn't even like.
	I'm talking about non-consensual sex.
	What?
	Come on, bro.
	Okay, I will say, and for like people that are in the hookup culture, or people that sleep with a lot of people, whatever you want to say, you learn more about what you actually like.
	So, like, honestly, six foot to six foot two, the schematics, not ideal.
	Wait, what?
	We don't need to know exactly what we like.
	We figure it out with that person that we marry and that we spend the rest of our lives with.
	We figure it out together.
	Like, we don't need constant comparison.
	That's what's really messing up.
	But that's what I'm saying.
	He's saying that do you just start comparing?
	No, if anything, you just learn, like, oh, I like this.
	I like that.
	Short buff guys?
	Never would have thought that was a thing, but we got a chat coming in.
	Then we're going to get through all the notes here.
	Practicing gentlemen, Sky, can you read this one?
	Why do you think there's an expectation for men to demonstrate they can provide, and there's no expectation for women to demonstrate they know how to take care of a home?
	Okay, wait, let me reread it to myself now before it goes away.
	Because we only teach men how to treat women, but we don't teach women how to treat men.
	Women naturally know how to do that, though.
	Well, I mean, I speak for myself.
	I feel like I've got a grown like learning how to, like, well, for me, I don't, I can't speak for everyone, but I learned how to clean and do the dishes and what a housewife would typically be special.
	Quality women know that by nature.
	Yeah, I actually like cleaning.
	So, all right, let's get into the notes here.
	Unless, sorry, somebody had a did you have a question?
	Whose caprice son is this?
	It's gonna be there to slowly.
	I've been staring at it for an hour.
	Me too.
	But when you drink it, you have to have the label facing the camera.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay, let's get through this as quick as possible.
	Here, Nina, you said that you once had an immature mentality as a lot of girls that go on the show, and now that you came to God, you know both sides, so you think your perspective can open up the minds and hearts of certain people?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You wanted to talk about modern dating as a Christian, waiting until marriage.
	Are you waiting until marriage?
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Experiencing temptation, having self-control and authority over our desires.
	Excuse me.
	The common notion that we need to test drive the car and the sexual compatibility topic.
	I get that one a lot.
	People always tell me, don't you want to drive the car before you buy it?
	Yes.
	So I've been absent for three years.
	I became a Christian two years ago, been absent for three years.
	Only slept with someone once the past five years.
	So pretty much I've been, you know, sexless the past five years.
	And honestly, like, you know, people act like sex is something we need, like it's air and water.
	And it's not.
	Like, it's just a story we tell her.
	Vibrero, yes.
	Vibreiro son time, yes.
	No sex, but vibreo.
	Vibrato.
	Vibrator.
	No sex, but vibrator.
	Vibrero?
	Yeah.
	I say vibrator in Spanish.
	Vibradoro.
	Vivre.
	Vivadoro.
	It's so elaborated.
	Wait, am I saying it right?
	Vibradoro.
	Vibradoro.
	Nina, you said, I don't know.
	You said, does body count matter?
	It sounds weird.
	We already went over that, yeah.
	Is marriage outdated?
	Should couples live together before?
	Okay, does sexual compatibility compatibility?
	Yeah, we talked about that.
	Relevance of chivalry and courtship today.
	We went through that.
	Yeah.
	Anything?
	Oh, disagreement.
	The show seems to be very men versus women and anti-marriage, basically all opposite of Christian values when it comes to dating relationships and marriage.
	I mean, so the anti-marriage component.
	So Andrew's Christian.
	I'm agnostic, but I'm actually, I have very positive attitudes towards Christianity.
	But yeah, I'm anti-marriage.
	So I want to get married one day.
	I look forward to the whole wedding.
	Nina, can I give you what you probably actually hear here, which is my argument?
	I think that marriage is extremely valuable because it's sacramental from a Christian form.
	I don't know what denomination you are.
	Some denominations don't believe that it's a sacrament.
	I think that they're just kind of like phony Christians, though.
	I think marriage is a holy sacrament.
	But what I don't understand is what incentive an atheist has to get married.
	Like, I actually don't understand.
	If I was an atheist man, I would not want to get married.
	It's literally fixed against them.
	So what would their incentive be?
	Like, it'd give me a good argument if I was an atheist, let's say.
	Give me a single good argument for why I should get married.
	Health insurance and other government benefits.
	Yeah, I know.
	I just want to want, if you don't mind, if I could finish the conversation with the person I'm talking to, that'd be great.
	Nina, why, if I was an atheist man, should I get married?
	Well, obviously, like, as she mentioned, the legal benefits, but also is because, you know, a lot of people say that marriage is just a piece of paper and da-da-da-da.
	But like, these things have meaning.
	Like, our college diploma, like, that's just a piece of paper, but it has meaning, money.
	Well, it has the meaning for me.
	You're putting it on paper.
	You're finalizing it.
	So.
	Yeah, why can't I finalize it by just declaring it?
	Well, usually you need a written, like, why do you need that?
	Because it's physical evidence.
	I think for the diplomatic event.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Why is it even for marriage?
	Legal marriage?
	Yes, you need it physically on a piece of paper.
	Why do you need that?
	For me to declare if I was an atheist that I'm married to a woman, why do I need a piece of paper exactly?
	Well, no, I get what you're saying.
	Atheists, they don't really need to get married, but this is just how they don't.
	It sounds like you're anti-marriage, Nina.
	No, I'm not anti-marriage.
	Well, exactly.
	That's the whole point, right?
	It's like you're not anti-marriage, but neither is Brian, neither am I. What we bring up is the point that I can't think other than you being religious what the purpose is for atheists and agnostics to get married.
	So she brings up things like health insurance, things like this, right?
	You can have all the perks of all of that absent marriage.
	You can forward your will, absent marriage.
	You can name people as your life insurance beneficiary, absent marriage.
	Like you can do all of these things absent marriage.
	Even when it comes to tax brackets, marriage doesn't even give you that much of a benefit there.
	And you're an earned income child credit.
	You get that even if you're not married.
	I was like, what is actually the incentive for men to take that risk?
	Even if there was these tiny offsets, let's say the risk is, oh, okay, well, we can get a divorce and the state takes half my shit and gives it to her.
	It sounds like quite the risk.
	So like, if I was an atheist man, really, as a Christian woman, give me the most compelling reason why I should get married.
	No, I see for an atheist man why they wouldn't want to get married because of the, you know, potential financial ramifications, but everything in life is a risk.
	Like, you know, there's a risk for everyone involved.
	Like, let's say an atheist woman, she doesn't get married.
	And then she ends up having a kid with that guy.
	And, you know, let's say he leaves her, he cheats on her, whatever.
	She doesn't even get child support.
	You know, like, I mean, alimony.
	So it's like, there's a risk for everyone involved.
	Like, it's like, there's no, like, it's very situational.
	There's no definitive answer.
	So it doesn't sound like you would advise atheist women to get married either.
	Like, if you think it's that risky.
	So it's like.
	Everything in life is a risk.
	Yeah.
	Everything in life is a risk.
	As Christians, in other words, how do we, as Christians, in other words, how do you incentivize an atheist man to marry a woman?
	Tell me how.
	If he wants to keep that woman in his life and she wants to get married, he has to put that.
	She's an atheist.
	She doesn't care.
	But even atheist people still care about marriage because there's still that legal aspect that they do care.
	Then why do they get married at such low rates?
	They still get married, though, even if it's at a low rate.
	We're talking about the atheist people who do get married.
	We're not talking about that.
	Yeah, Satanists get married too.
	But like, if you can't offer a single incentive, in other words, if you can't offer a single incentive, Andrew, the reason atheist men should get married is this and then that and all the offsets for risk, right?
	Those are still there.
	So like, what is your best, I'm a Christian, you're an atheist man, you need to get married because they still, from what I said before, you're making me repeat myself, that if they want to keep that woman in their life and that atheist woman wants the marriage, then he needs to marry her.
	And that's what a marriage is security for a woman.
	It's security.
	You're making in brand new conditionals.
	You're saying, well, they should get married if that's the only way he can keep the woman.
	Let's assume for a second that conditional is not present.
	He can still keep the woman, even absent, going and getting a marriage.
	Yeah, then everyone's happy.
	But tell me why he should do that.
	not saying he should like i see what you're saying but in the situation of like getting like your green card I don't know how that works specifically.
	I don't know anything about it, but I've heard people.
	What does this have to do?
	No, I'm saying people get married to say it.
	It could be incentive to go get a fucking green card.
	That's what I'm saying.
	A micro-portion of these situations has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
	Are you talking about, okay, I have a question for you.
	Are you talking about.
	I don't care about your question.
	I want to finish my conversation.
	No, but I think it might help you.
	I don't care.
	I want to finish my conversation.
	So real quick, try to understand it from my perspective.
	You have six different people who are wanting to talk to you at once while you're in the middle of a conversation, right?
	That's actually quite rude of you to do.
	But anyway, back to this.
	If you can't offer atheist men an incentive where you say the disincentives are there, where it's actually you could see the risk.
	You're like, I could actually see the risk from your perspective and can't give you a good compelling reason to get married.
	That's where Brian is.
	That's exactly where he is.
	He's like, well, I don't believe in God.
	So why should I get married?
	And the Christian answer to this, they don't have an answer to it.
	And so I hear all these like Daily Wire guys and Michael Knowles and all these different, you know, kind of like prominent Catholics and Christians talk about how atheists need to get married, but not a damn one of them will have a single conversation about the incentives and why they should because they don't have an answer to it either.
	And isn't that bothersome that Christians refuse to even engage on this?
	They just refuse to acknowledge that they have no good reason to give atheists for why they should get married.
	They don't have a single one.
	Yeah, I don't claim to have all the answers.
	just know that i want god's favor over my life and that's by just to keep things is it I just have a quick question.
	Are you talking about getting married within the church and not just within the state?
	Is that what you're talking about?
	You're only specifically talking about getting married.
	Yeah, I'll explain.
	I'll explain the delineation so that you understand.
	So sacramental marriage for Christians doesn't need to involve the state.
	We don't give a shit about the state.
	What does marriage have to do with the state?
	It's a sacrament from God.
	It has nothing to do with state authority.
	In other words, if I was on desert island somewhere and I'm a Christian and the woman I'm with is a Christian, could we get married?
	I'm just saying from what I answered my question real quick.
	Could we get married from a Christian view?
	Can you repeat the question?
	Yeah, I know.
	You got to listen to what I'm actually asking you.
	If two Christians are on a desert island, desert island, there's no government, there's no other people, they're just stuck there.
	They're marooned and they fall in love.
	Can they get married?
	No, there has to be a third person, doesn't there?
	To officiate the marriage?
	Why?
	I just, I don't know.
	I don't know anything about marriage.
	Yeah, you don't know.
	Right.
	Well, the thing is, is like the only reason that you think the government needs to be involved in marriage.
	No, I'm not saying the government.
	I'm saying like I'm saying like a priest, like a third person, like a third person witness, like not like legally.
	I'm just saying, like, that's just from my understanding.
	When two people get married, there's always one person to officiate the wedding, whether it's a priest or someone who's close in the family.
	That's very traditional.
	Yeah.
	But is it necessary?
	Is the question.
	So the thing is, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So, so I'll just grant this to you.
	Yes, in a Christian marriage, the sacrament, usually that's done by a priest in a church, right?
	So we would agree on that.
	But for an atheist, what's the requirement?
	Like, why is there any requirement?
	Why couldn't an atheist just be like, okay, we're married?
	And now we are.
	Gotta move it on.
	Gotta move it on.
	Okay, guys, if you want McKenzie thing for the, you sent $5 on them, though.
	Thank you so much, McKenzie.
	We have ICE.
	We've been getting a lot of requests from your chat to investigate a potential illegal immigrant.
	I was scared you're gonna make me read that one.
	Huh?
	I was scared you're gonna make me read that one.
	Oh, okay.
	Do you want to read it?
	No.
	Okay.
	No, thank you.
	Here, can one of you guys read it?
	Or does somebody want to read it?
	I knew you were.
	Huh?
	What?
	Okay, good.
	Oh, me?
	All right, let me get through the notes here, guys.
	Going back to, I think, actually, wait.
	So I guess I'm going to be.
	Oh, Nina, last thing for you.
	You said unique dating stories.
	You don't rule out men younger than you.
	You've briefly dated men five years younger than you.
	Some of your friends think you're crazy.
	So, yeah.
	You have a thing for younger guys?
	My friends say so.
	I just don't discriminate it.
	You know, like a lot of girls are adamant about not dating a guy younger than them.
	And I just think that's so stupid because what matters most is the maturity of the person.
	Like, I know it sounds super cliche, but you know, how I see a man matures when he wants to mature, when he has to mature.
	And like, you know, if a guy's Christian, like, he already has that, you know, firm foundation, solid values.
	Let's say if he is 23 or whatever, like, I would date a 23-year-old if he's Christian, has the same values.
	Girl, my ex was 44.
	He thinks, like, a 25-year-old.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, very mature.
	I feel like they either always.
	44 and he's so out and about.
	I think we have like three more people's notes we have got to get through.
	So let's go to Abigail.
	You have tons of dating stories.
	That's what you wrote.
	I don't know if that's actually true, but apparently tons of dating stories.
	Not really like dating, dating.
	Like currently.
	Oh, you wanted to talk shit about Brecky Hill, right?
	Yeah.
	You said you can talk about Brecky Hill and how she was.
	Like, so much.
	I actually hate her.
	I'm sorry, wait.
	Damn.
	Wait, who is this?
	Who are we talking about?
	Anolan.
	Can we see a picture of her?
	No, that's okay.
	She looks kind of like her.
	I'm just like, wait, nothing.
	She's mad.
	She's literally mad.
	Fight.
	Because people on the internet are saying that I look like her.
	And do you, though?
	I want to see her picture now.
	I want to see what she's doing.
	Pull it up.
	It doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter.
	It's just a blonde girl.
	And on LonelyFans?
	Just kidding.
	Everyone is like, yeah.
	Well, you said that Brecky Hill, you said this, just dates men for clout.
	Yeah.
	She literally does.
	Okay.
	And you guys are fighting over the same guy?
	Yeah, Greenie.
	Why?
	There's so many fish in the sea.
	Why fight over one?
	Sorry, who?
	Who the fuck is Greenie?
	He's from Minnesota.
	He does hockey.
	His name's Greenie.
	Yeah.
	For a hockey boy.
	Okay.
	is this the guy that you no never mind um she You said she's upset because you look like her.
	She blocked you on everything.
	She's being hypocritical because she duped Livy.
	I don't know who these people.
	Duped Olivier.
	And now that she's getting duped, she can't stand it.
	The drama.
	Wait, who's Livy?
	I need more context.
	Livvy Dunn.
	Who's that?
	Olivia.
	Bless you, Jimmy.
	Gymnast chick?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	How did she dupe Olivia Dunn?
	I hate that I know these names so much.
	I know nothing.
	We had Brecky Hill on the show a while ago.
	You're so beautiful.
	Don't think.
	Don't fight over nobody.
	Look into this camera.
	Look deep into this camera lens and say what you want to say to Brecky Hill right now.
	Stop using men for clout.
	My bazookas are 10 times bigger.
	I'm more natural.
	I don't know.
	No, there's just so much that I could say.
	There's so much that I could say.
	Are you going to box her?
	Physically here.
	We should do a boxing.
	Yes, but like do it here.
	Do a slap thing.
	So we could have like a face-to-face conversation.
	Because, like she keeps, why?
	Because, like she just no, because she keeps like just playing.
	Like oh, like she's, she'll call people and like will talk about me.
	And she's like oh, my god, she keeps like making these videos.
	Like, tell her to stop.
	But it's like you did the same thing to Libby for years, who's a college athlete like this is friendly fire.
	We do the same job we.
	It's literally as high as you cannot be mad.
	Like this is how you got your fame.
	Like it's karma, it's the taste of your own medicine.
	Like you can't be mad.
	Someone's doing the same exact thing to you same guy, and she's standing her ground.
	All right, you guys are both dating the same guy at the same time.
	Well, we're not dating, we're just both birds on this one.
	Well, you're still choosing to see a guy you know is actually seeing another girl.
	Girl, you have so many.
	I feel like you're better than that.
	So you also wrote, guys shouldn't have a roster.
	And then you also I think you repeated it Brecky Hill shouldn't just get with every guy for classes.
	Wait, you don't think that guys should have a roster?
	Vendetta right, personal vendetta no no no, i'm not on his roster anymore.
	I've moved on.
	Oh oh good, good for you, specifically because yeah guys, I said that I thought you were still seeing him.
	No, you.
	You said women shouldn't sleep around.
	It's disgusting.
	Yeah okay, that's cool.
	Um, and also um, you said, where are the wait?
	You wrote maybe this was a tweet.
	Where are the men that appreciate average women?
	Wait, did you write that wait?
	I don't know where the context is here.
	I don't know.
	Can we pull up her tweet about Luigi Mangioni, though?
	Oh no, perfect man.
	All right guys, that was probably just like, oh well, I think you faked this because you said I could have prevented this, bro just wanted some ass.
	And I think you photoshopped this.
	Come on, be honest, I guess we'll never know.
	He's so she's saying, she's saying that Luigi Mangioni slid into her DMS yeah, before everything happened before.
	Yeah, you could have saved him, I guess.
	All right um, that's cool, he just wanted some.
	She put money in his books too.
	All right, we got right here.
	Well, let's get to peaches peaches.
	Uh, you said you have an unsuccessful only fans.
	Uh, on your instagram it says you're you uh, diary of a hoe h-a-u-x a-hoe.
	How do you say that?
	Hoe hoe, hoe.
	Okay hoe, your attitude, your critical care aren't.
	I have a question.
	Yes, you've seen some.
	Yes literally, metaphor is, are nurses fucking not each other like, are just the female nurses?
	Are they fucking female nurses and male nurses?
	I see you er e ms. It's crazy.
	I will say not like, obviously at work, but like are you saying most nurses are whores, bro?
	Yeah, it's a huge red flag.
	They're either like really, really, really religious Mormon and just like wholesome.
	There's no like me.
	So there's no one between them.
	I love how she admits it, though.
	I respect you a lot for that.
	You know what?
	100% a lot of time.
	I could wake up tomorrow.
	I could be dead.
	She has flaccid.
	Something could not work.
	I'm just living life to the full.
	I'm going to keep that out of this.
	You're like, I'm here, Fred.
	You said you've been a professional dominatrix and a foot fetish artist.
	And you're also in the kink/slash BDSM community.
	So you've Domed, like the foot stuff is like my bread and butter.
	That's mainly what I'm doing.
	Well, that's part of it.
	Can we get a sample doming?
	Like, can you dom Brandon?
	Can you afford it?
	Can you afford it?
	I don't think he's ready for that.
	I do not consent.
	Brian, lay on the table.
	Lay on the table.
	It's a typical applicant for something like that.
	Is it similar to, I can't remember her name, but she was talking about the flaccid liberal men.
	Is it the same people?
	Or do masculine guys come and say, like, please step on my face?
	Who is coming to you?
	You know what I've heard on that, Brandon?
	Is like you'll have like really guys who are like really, really high up in like corporate, the corporate world.
	I've heard bosses and like managers who are like constantly having to like boss people around.
	And then like, I heard that that can be a dynamic.
	I don't know.
	Okay, okay.
	The higher power the job, the more extreme I would say the fetishes are.
	I'll put it that way.
	It's really more of like the norm.
	I don't say normal people, but like more less high-stress jobs, more like norm, like less super normal.
	Just less stressful jobs are more the feet people, I would say.
	Interesting.
	I had a friend.
	Have you done anything with like Quinton Tarantino?
	No, he has a, I think he has a foot set.
	I would love to be featured in a movie.
	Fleepod donated $200 is back.
	Yo, chat, would you guys like to see Quinton Tarantino like do like we do a one?
	He wouldn't come on the dating talk, but like a one-on-one conversation live convo with Quintin Tarantino.
	I might be able to make it happen.
	Do it.
	I don't know.
	Because yep, he definitely enjoys the feet for sure.
	I feel that.
	Same with Sam Raimi and Screaming Dominic.
	Yo, the pod.
	W's in the chat for the pod.
	Thank you for the $200 TTS man.
	We got OJ Simpson here.
	O.J. Simpson donated $200.
	Yo, Mr. Andrew Mann, any chance I could bump a sig bro starting to tweak out over here.
	Would love to see you light one up soon, too.
	Looks so baller.
	Thanks for seeing.
	Light it up.
	Oh, he's already got one.
	There you go.
	There it is.
	Boom.
	Can I say something to the feet thing?
	Oh, boy.
	Yeah.
	So I actually had a lot of people obsessed with my feet for a really long time on social media.
	It was super uncomfortable.
	Yeah.
	How did they find your feet?
	I don't know.
	I've been sent some stuff by people, but it actually, there was one scenario where I was sitting on a boat, like in the front of the boat, and I took a selfie and I had the reflection of my feet in my sunglasses.
	And this person had screen recorded it and zoomed in on it and screenshotted it and then like posted it on all these forums.
	And so people, yeah, I've had people offer me a lot of money for feet pics before.
	I've also been offered $50,000 to attend an orgy before.
	And yeah, all of stuff.
	You lost a lot of money.
	You lost a lot of money.
	Exactly.
	I know.
	It's pretty.
	Yeah.
	Storing treasures up in heaven, not on DVD.
	Here's the crazy shit.
	I googled my name.
	Why?
	And there's a website where other people will upload content creators' feet.
	And I had a page.
	Oh my God.
	I'm going to check that.
	There's a very good ranking on there.
	It's WikiFeet.
	And what size are you, bro?
	Huh?
	What size are you?
	Like 10 and a half.
	I'm a 13.
	They figured that out.
	Did you have your toes painted?
	Did you have your toes painted?
	Did you put your toes, Brian?
	I think it did.
	Damn, Virgin.
	So, okay, going back to peaches, you said men have paid you ridiculous rates to be stepped on, spit on, degraded, etc.
	How good a race are we talking?
	How much do people shell out for this?
	And we haven't even gone around and asked people how much they make, or do we not ask people that?
	We could.
	But like, let's say Abigail over there was like, I want you to step on my boobs or something.
	I don't know.
	Step on me.
	How much does that cost?
	Like $400 an hour.
	$400 an hour?
	Yeah.
	But for a full hour of stomping.
	Yeah.
	That's a lot of stomping.
	That is a lot of stuff.
	It's actually fucking hard.
	It was way harder.
	But you know, you have like, I rent a studio, and there's like, you're not just like, you have the bars, you can actually like step on people, and there's like, yeah, that's cool.
	I actually had someone in a club in Hollywood.
	He gave me $200 to slap him in front of everyone.
	That was fun.
	It was really fun.
	I took out all my anger during those five minutes.
	It was cool.
	Five minutes.
	It wasn't even that long, but he was like, do it harder.
	And I'm like, oh my goodness.
	It was cool.
	It was cool.
	And then the manager of the club was just like, I'm sure everyone was kind of like, it was fun.
	Do you want to ask them how much?
	I'm very interested.
	I'd love to know how much all of you guys.
	How much you guys make from like doing the OF stuff?
	Like yearly or monthly?
	Monthly?
	Monthly, I make five figures, almost six.
	Wait.
	Monthly, you make.
	I'm interested.
	I know.
	Yeah, but five figures could be.
	You mean 5,000 or you mean five figures?
	No, I mean like I make like anywhere from like 10,000 to 99,900.
	Well, I'm not, I don't want to give.
	I'm sorry, I'm not going to give an exact number.
	You can if you want, but this month has been 10K.
	Okay.
	First month.
	Hey, Dog, what about you?
	Do we want to play like a higher or lower game?
	No, just tell us.
	No, I'm not going to say numbers.
	Is it between like is it over 100,000 per month?
	January's been slow.
	So not.
	Oh, wait, over 100K?
	Per month.
	Every month.
	100k this month.
	This month.
	Yeah.
	Slow month.
	Cool.
	What about you?
	Oh, well, you said you're not going to be able to do it.
	Yeah, I just do for the love of the game.
	Wait, what?
	I'm in the wrong world.
	Hey, Adriana, cut that shit.
	Don't say that.
	Don't please.
	Don't you dare.
	Don't say that.
	Hold on.
	We have a chat here really quick.
	Practicing gentlemen.
	If you don't see a problem with a man paying a woman to degrade him, would there be any problem with a woman paying a man to send her essay threats?
	What?
	I mean, that would just be like, that's like incriminating yourself almost, especially if it's over text, unless you have like strict text.
	That's like, yeah, this is like, that's weird.
	That's like a kink, like CNC.
	I mean, whatever.
	That's a disturbance.
	Would there be a problem with it?
	Would there be a problem with it?
	I think it's weird.
	I think mentally that's weird.
	I went a half hour over where I usually am, but I'm going to send a raid over your way.
	Girls, it was really nice to meet Adrian.
	Hi, Andrew.
	Andrew, can bye.
	We're about to get into some potentially juicy stuff.
	Can you spare like 10-15?
	If not, no worries.
	If not, no worries.
	But I just figured.
	Okay.
	And if you need hard out, though, 100%, like 10, 15 minutes.
	Yeah, of course.
	Okay, you said you're pretty active on your local king club.
	Sorry.
	Experience.
	Shabari.
	That's like the Japanese rope time.
	Impact play, sensory deprivation play, wax play, breath play, electro stimulation, four ways, three ways, all with your partner 12 years.
	You've been in the king community seven years.
	You make money doing it, but it's purely a hobby that you make money from.
	You also have a normal job, the thing.
	You said you enjoy being a hoe.
	You enjoy taking nudes and making your own adult content to sell.
	You have a high-functioning career.
	You want to talk about OF girls that are doing it for the love of the game.
	So you're doing it for the love of the game.
	Okay.
	You want to talk more about the nuance of it?
	Many of the women I've seen die.
	Wait, many of the women.
	So this is when you're a critical care nurse.
	Many of the women you have seen die, like literally die, verbalize wishing they had more sex or more, well, you said more playful sex.
	Yeah, just more intimacy, connections.
	Wait, that's just a bit of sex, things like that.
	Just to clear it up.
	You're in the hospital and some chick, some chick's bleeding out.
	She's fucking dying, right?
	She got a gunshot to the fucking vagina.
	She's bleeding out.
	She's dead.
	She's dying.
	And she's like, I wish I fucked more.
	I mean, not quite like that, but people really do tell you like the things that they wish they did.
	And have you done hospice shit?
	Hospice stuff.
	If you're lucky, you make it to hospice.
	Is that where the money is?
	I don't know.
	Well, no, it's just more dangerous.
	What is that?
	It's a little ignorant.
	Hospice is like typically where people go who have like a very short amount of time to live.
	Oh.
	Or you can be at home.
	That's ideal, really, if you have the support.
	People already know they're about to die in like a week.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But it's like, I don't think the people on their deathbed are like, man, I wish I fucked more.
	They don't word it that way.
	That's so weird.
	That's what you wrote, though.
	What do they say?
	They say that they wish that they had more either experimental.
	You said explored their sexual playful.
	Yeah, adventurous, explored more things that are not missing out.
	It's like that guy, the Mount Vesuvius guy.
	Have you seen that in the eruption?
	No, no, the guy who died in the Mount Vesuvius eruption and he was masturbating and it's just coated.
	He's just coated in lava.
	But yeah, it was last minutes before he died.
	He had to get it in.
	Yeah, I agree.
	That's what I'm saying.
	And guys usually say that they wish they didn't hold so many gridges.
	That's what we usually hear.
	The overwhelming majority of people who are dying, I very much doubt, are revealing to you the secrets that they want to just diddle more chicks in more special ways.
	I'm guessing that most of the things you talk about is, I wish I had spent more time with my family, or I wish I had done this, various adventures, and this and that.
	I doubt that sex is the primary thing that they're talking to you about on their death.
	Do they know about your hobbies?
	What?
	No.
	No.
	She's not like, I think you're offering a lot of people.
	It depends on personality and whoever's on their deathbed.
	She's not like they're about to die and she's like, oh yeah, I like let guys stomp on me for $400 an hour.
	She's like, we got one hour, $400.
	Spend your money now.
	You also wrote related to the previous things that I read here.
	This is the main reason I, well, you, embrace your honess.
	And for OF and Fetish sessions, you believe in autonomy and the individual and think tradition works for some, but not all.
	When it comes to tradition, you said you disagree with your takes of tradition being the best way for people to live their lives.
	I also don't think anyone can say their religion is the correct one over others.
	I think this is kind of what I wanted, Andrew.
	There might be a few more things here, but I think probably this is a big disagreement that you have with Andrew.
	So she, Andrew, she says she disagrees with Takes about tradition being the best way, the most optimum way for people to live their lives.
	Yeah, well, she said for most, right?
	You say for most, or you think some people it is, some people it isn't.
	Is that the more nuanced perspective?
	Well, why don't you tell me your perspective?
	Well, she said the best way for people to live their lives.
	Yeah, well, what is the best way for people to live their lives?
	I think that's individual to them.
	That's my whole point is I don't think that there's like specific religious structures or things like that that are, you must live your life this way to have a quality life or like be a good person.
	Well, no, but that's objectively harming people.
	Me being a hoe isn't harming anyone because everyone's consenting.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Why is objectively harming people bad?
	What do you mean?
	Why is it bad?
	Why is murdering someone bad?
	Yeah.
	because you're ending a life.
	I mean, that's, I don't know.
	Why is that bad?
	Explain to me why that's bad without using a religious view.
	Yeah, it negatively affects society if you just go around.
	So what?
	Why is negatively affecting society bad?
	Because it's negative to the general cohesive structure of society.
	Just restating the questioning well.
	Listen, when I ask you why a thing is, you can't just restate the position.
	I know your position is that it's harm and harm bad.
	I'm asking you why harm is bad.
	And I'm asking you to tell me the justification for that, not using a religious view.
	So from your non-religious view, why is harming people even bad?
	I would say, well, I don't think being a hoe is harmful, which is my general point.
	I think that doing harmful people.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	I asked you why harming people is bad.
	I think doing harmful things is negative for the general construct of society and everyone cooperating and living in that cooperative society.
	Why is that bad?
	What do you mean?
	Because people don't do well in societies when it's all spread out.
	Yeah, but why is it good?
	Why do we need people to do good?
	So the thing is, like, you just keep on restating it's bad because it's bad because it's bad because it's bad.
	But why is it bad?
	So from my view, it's bad because God said, no, you're not allowed to do that, right?
	Here's your objective standard.
	It's immoral to do this.
	It's evil.
	Your standard for why it's bad is it's negative to the social construct that we call cooperative bad.
	How is just going around murdering people not negatively impacting the social cooperation?
	It negatively impacts.
	I agree with you, but why is that bad?
	Why would it be good?
	Yeah, I don't understand it.
	I'm telling you what.
	Well, I think that the word bad and the word good are religious words.
	I think evil is a religious connotation.
	It has nothing to do.
	Like, why, what is it?
	If all morals are just socially relative, then nothing's evil.
	That's just made up.
	So even you're saying this is just a social construction and it's bad for the social construction.
	It's like, yeah, but why is that actually, why is that actually bad?
	Like, if you had another place where murder was totally legal within the social construct and everybody was getting along just fine, would that be bad?
	No, because you wouldn't think it would be bad at all.
	Let her answer.
	Let her answer.
	I think it depends if it's oppressive to other people.
	So for example, like gladiators, if you were forced to be a gladiator, that's bad.
	But a lot of gladiators liked being gladiators because it was a good way for them to make money.
	Well, what made it bad, though?
	Them being forced to do it against their will.
	Them just fighting in an arena is not bad.
	Everybody in society likes that.
	What's wrong with it?
	There was nothing wrong with that in that time period until people changed their views on the social construct they wanted to adhere by.
	Yeah, so how could that be bad?
	That's what I'm what I'm what are you saying?
	I'm saying you have no murder used to not be bad, and now it is bad.
	I believe the only reason you think murder is bad is because you think so.
	That's it.
	That's your only standard for it.
	That's true.
	I think bad, therefore bad.
	But that's your only standard if you're going to use the context of religion for people who are not religious.
	Yeah, but we have an unchanging standard.
	Your standard changes.
	So you called it yourself a social construction, which means that that construct can change.
	My construct can't.
	It's an objective set of values which are unchanging, and you borrow them.
	So therefore, I think that my value structure, which you are borrowing, is far superior to your value structure, which I'm not borrowing.
	Okay, I don't know much about religion, but Old Testament said different things from New Testament.
	Didn't religious beliefs change in Christianity as well, or am I wrong?
	No, Christianity is still an unchanging standard to the religion itself.
	Christianity has an unchanging set of value structures.
	We cannot change it, right?
	So we can't just go, oh, okay, well, murder is okay, actually, and this is okay, actually.
	But in your view, as long as I can present to you a society in which nobody cares, right, you can't actually say that that's bad, right?
	It's not about no one caring.
	It's about how is it impacting the general welfare of society.
	If nobody cares, it can't be affecting it negatively, can it?
	Yeah, then it wouldn't have negative effects.
	Let me give you an example.
	There's a small island, you might have heard of it, called Papua New Guinea.
	On this island, Papua New Guinea, there are what are known as the come warriors of Papua New Guinea, and here's how this works.
	Not kidding, you can look this up.
	We're not making it up.
	What they do is a rite of passage for all of the boys in Papua New Guinea.
	They make them do bad acts.
	Okay?
	Now the boys seem to absolutely adore this.
	It's a rite of passage.
	They love it.
	They think it's great.
	They can't wait to go do it.
	Okay?
	So tell me, since there's no negative ramifications, the boys themselves are demanding it.
	It's a rite of passage in that culture.
	Why is that bad?
	Are they doing bad acts against another person?
	What is a bad act?
	You just said bad acts.
	I don't know what that means.
	They, okay, they do bad things.
	From my view, they do.
	I can't.
	The problem with this is the language is so confining on YouTube.
	They diddle kids, boys, young boys, as a rite of passage to manhood, and the young boys demand that they do so.
	But that is harming them.
	Okay, prove the harm.
	What's the harm?
	I don't think I could say what the harm is on here.
	What's the harm?
	I don't think I could say the word.
	What's the word?
	Essay of a minor.
	Yeah, but what makes it that other than your social construct?
	I think that everyone can agree essay against a minor is bad and they have throughout most of history.
	And honestly, there's a little bit of time in which they didn't believe that and then people changed their mind.
	So all of your morals come from agreement.
	My morals come from not what a book says, but what logically makes sense for the positive cohesiveness of a general society.
	That society is completely positively cohesive.
	There's nobody who's being harmed by their metric.
	All of them are agreeing to do this and they all demand to do it and they all love doing this.
	What's the actual harm here?
	I don't think that essaying minors is good or allowed.
	So I would say that.
	Yeah, that's just question begging.
	You're just restating the thing we already know.
	It's bad because it's bad because it's bad.
	I want to know why.
	Why is it bad if all of them are agreeing to it?
	Minors can't agree.
	What do you mean?
	Well, okay, minor itself is a social construct, right?
	Well, that's how they grew up.
	They grew up seeing one thing and believing one thing.
	Right.
	So that's why they think it's okay.
	Like, do we think it's okay that that happens there?
	No.
	But do they think it's okay that it happens there?
	Yes.
	But if the principle is harm and you can't demonstrate any harm happening, then how can you say it's bad?
	But I think you could demonstrate harm happening if people actually went there and did that.
	I think the harm is how it, like what she means, okay, I might be wrong, but bad is in a way how it affects the other person at the end of the day.
	I mean, like what you put in the, how you started the conversation was by murder, I guess, you should say.
	But I don't think they agreed to be murdered or how someone being murdered can affect the other party being murdered.
	So that's what makes it bad.
	Yeah, these kids do agree to it.
	What?
	Being just walking around the street and being murdered?
	Like, I don't see how they agree to that.
	I don't know what the minors are agreed to essay.
	I don't know.
	But that's on fuckahooka land, bitch.
	We are here in America.
	This isn't more than you talk, so I can explain.
	You explain so that you understand.
	You keep repeating.
	You're saying harm, bad.
	Things that harm bad, right?
	However, in this case, if you were to go in and break that up, that would do a lot of harm.
	That's their culture.
	So if you went in there with force and broke it all up and said, you're not allowed to do this anymore, they would actually fight with you over it.
	So is it actually less harmful to let them keep doing that or more harmful to go in and stop it?
	I would say in that specific situation, yes, because you're doing more harm by going in and disrupting an entire culture that you are a part of.
	If they came over here and we're trying to essay minors, yeah, I'm going to have a problem with that.
	So then what you just made was a harm argument for essay of children.
	Well, no, I just saw that total.
	It's just based on harm.
	You can justify the essay of children.
	That's why your fucking standard sucks.
	And why might it's good?
	Because you, yourself, can, with the harm principle, justify the essay of children.
	My worldview will not account or allow for that, and that's why it's superior to yours.
	Can I say that your state of mind is because of what you believe in as a religion, but can we not say that our state of mind is based on our government and the laws that we live by?
	So it wouldn't be ours by law, why we have these beliefs is by what was given by the government to us, and yours is a religion given by a God.
	But say a government makes murder legal.
	Legal.
	Does that automatically be available?
	The government does.
	Yes, that's where exactly.
	Higgs' example is an island that it's legal to do that to children.
	So if our government one day says that we can do that like it has once in the past, he also states that we did murder people in the past.
	If it becomes legal again, it becomes our normal society.
	So which means we would not be bad in that case because we believe that it's bad because given law.
	Everything you're saying.
	I agree with everything that you're saying, and that's what makes our view superior.
	What makes it superior.
	We believe in God and we believe in the law.
	Even if the government says, hey, this thing that you would even say probably right now, due to your cultural context, bad, if they change that, right, you would adhere to those laws and those, you know, those things because morality to you is changeable.
	For us, it's not changeable.
	Well, it's also going to say, no, this is still not going to happen regardless.
	It's also subjective to data logic research that creates these laws.
	There's not enough data logic behind the Bible for me to just believe that blindly.
	Who cares?
	But why do you even need that?
	Like, I don't need that.
	Let's just say for a second you don't believe it.
	You don't believe any of it.
	You think it's all just fairy tales and fables and sky fairy and bearded magic man in the sky.
	That's irrelevant.
	The ethics themselves provide better value for humanity than any secular ethics because secular ethics are changeable.
	Right.
	There's not a single Christian ethic that you would disagree with except perhaps LGBTQ stuff.
	Other than that, there's probably not even a single one you would disagree with.
	Probably not even one.
	So ultimately, even from a harm reductionist standpoint, it's still better for society.
	So even from your view, it's better.
	Can I ask you a question?
	Can you, I know you're really smart on this, so like historical stuff.
	When did you say, like, when people used to the Arkans or whatever they're called, when people used to fight each other in the little hole, the pit?
	Gladiatorial?
	Yes, like that type of era.
	You know, like, like, okay, so yes, like the gladiator era, whatever.
	So, like, back then, it was like, it was normal for people to do that, right?
	But, did you, but Christianity was still popular then, and everyone was still with it because it was entertainment.
	We were the ones getting killed.
	No, the Christians were glad to be honest.
	Yeah, that's what I'm asking him because I know he's smart with this kind of stuff.
	Christianity destroyed Rome.
	It completely conquered Rome.
	All that, what you're talking about with gladiatorial rings, things like this, there was some of that which remained from paganism, but that was against Christian ethics as well.
	Okay, okay.
	I was curious.
	And then there's maybe one final thing here, Andrew, that you might want to weigh in on.
	So, this is another hot take from you, Peach.
	Peaches, I don't know.
	You said every human has value and everyone deserves respect.
	However, there's a hierarchy of the society, and most people did in their hierarchy bracket relatively.
	Andrew, I think you have thoughts on the whole like everyone deserves respect thing.
	Yeah, no, they don't.
	Why?
	Why do we have to do that?
	Although, to be fair, he means chivalrous as transactional.
	So, I understand why he comes to where he comes from.
	It's not that chivalry is transactional.
	I would respect him.
	I would respect everyone.
	Wait, hold on.
	What?
	Am I going to murder him?
	I'm not going to do that.
	I'm not a murderer.
	Hold on.
	Okay, you don't need to kill somebody if you disrespect them.
	Wait, do you what about Stalin?
	Do you think Stalin deserves respect?
	I'm going to treat everyone how I want to be treated until they treat me otherwise, and then I'm going to get away from them.
	So, would you disrespect a PDF file?
	I mean, if they're just like, why would I know that information about them unless I'm seeing them?
	Let's say you did.
	I would ask them, why do you do that to children?
	That's very strange.
	Would you respect it?
	Like, did he?
	Why would you respect it?
	Would you respect a PDF file?
	I know, that sounds kind of disrespectful.
	Okay, what is an example of disrespect, though?
	Because that's what I'm saying.
	No, no, no, just answer the question.
	I mean, you.
	No, I'm not going to inherently be disrespectful to anyone for no reason.
	No, but would you disrespect?
	You don't have to go out of your way and like talk shit, but like, would you have respect for a PDF or whatever?
	PDF.
	When I say everyone deserves respect, I mean to be treated respectfully.
	I don't know about children.
	I'm not like how they're.
	I'm a PDF disrespecter.
	I mean, I don't like them.
	I think they should be in jail.
	I think they should see a therapist.
	Like, I don't condone the same thing.
	Would you respect a serial rapist?
	That's what I'm saying.
	I don't know what you mean by disrespect.
	I'm a grapist disrespectful.
	What do you mean in the context?
	Concepts of disrespect.
	If African people is in front of me, am I going to cuss him out?
	I'm just not going to say that.
	I'll put it in the context of harm reduction.
	Because that's your principle is harm reduction.
	That by respecting people who have not earned respect, you actually do more harm to society than you do good.
	And the reason that you do is because you normalize bad behavior by giving respect to people who engage in bad behavior.
	And what I have noticed is that it's generally the women who engage in the most bad behavior who demand that everybody be respected because they're not respectable.
	Let me give you an example.
	Now, I don't mean to say this to hurt your feelings, but I'm going to say it anyway because it's true.
	Of course.
	On the social scale, okay?
	Because your husband is a cuck and because you're in an open relationship, I'll always have a higher social status than him, no matter what.
	No matter what, with any man on planet Earth, will we ever come in contact with, the second they learn that he engages in cuckery, my social status will be higher.
	Now, you can complain, say that that's not right and that you deserve respect and this and that, blah, blah, blah.
	But here's the actual truth.
	By trying to normalize that, you actually do more harm than good because you turn more men possibly towards cuckery, which will lower their social status and cause more problems for them.
	That'll always be the case.
	And this is the same thing with promiscuous women.
	If you try to normalize that, you're going to lower their social status as well because their social status is lower than virtuous women.
	I respect your subjective opinion.
	Okay.
	But what I would say is, okay, let's, for like Stalin, Hitler, all these people, if they were in front of me, I'm not going to cuss them out or anything like that.
	But based on my biased morals, I think that we should just, they don't need to be here.
	They don't need to exist because of the things they did.
	Like, if you do harmful things to society, you don't need to participate in society.
	So are you saying you would give someone like the death penalty, but you would still say that you respect them?
	I'm saying I'm not going to badmouth anyone.
	I'm not going to yell at them.
	I'm not going to do anything.
	I would just be like, oh, you did this horrible act.
	Done.
	Very interesting.
	Period.
	That's an interesting one.
	All right.
	Do you think that when we allocate social statuses for behaviors in society that we do that for a reason?
	Because we want to incentivize behavior that is good for society?
	Yes.
	Yeah, so then if that's the case and your social status is low because you're promiscuous or a cuck, then apparently we're doing that for a reason because we're trying to normalize behavior in society, which makes it better.
	But being a cuck or promiscuous doesn't, I don't get how if everyone's consenting and not lying or cheating or exploiting people, it is bad for society.
	I'll explain.
	So let's take a quick hypothetical.
	If every woman and man lived like you in open relationships and things like that, right?
	And compare that to a society where every man and woman lived instead in a traditional household where they had a wife and they had children.
	Which society would be better?
	I think if everyone was acting, if people were not engaging in chivalry transaction wise and just generally being good to the people around them, both societies would do equally as well.
	You don't need the religion for the society to be good.
	Do you think that a society where generally men who are in relationships with women and have children with them who go, see you later, honey, I'm going to go pork the neighbor now, if that entire society was engaging in that type of behavior and then bringing their wife over so that they could have a gangbang and be the next guy's cum slut, that that society would be equal in terms to a society where there was no cheating whatsoever, people stayed faithful to each other and had children.
	Could you possibly demonstrate in a million fucking years how this is even possible?
	How you could ever have your society and that would ever do better than the one that I postulate?
	I don't advocate my lifestyle for people who are trying to build families.
	Because it's worse.
	That's why you don't advocate for it.
	And that is what I'm saying to you.
	It's because it's worse.
	That's why you don't advocate for it.
	And when you say, how would this actually work for harm reduction?
	When I give you the two different societies, it's impossible for you to say why the one I postulate is worse than yours.
	But it's easy for me to say why yours is worse than mine.
	But I'm willing to hear evidence.
	I don't think it's worse.
	Like if you have young children and stuff like that in the house, that's why I think it's like you shouldn't do that.
	But if they moved out and you are empty nesters, let your freak flag fly.
	Like, I don't think that would be different.
	But you do have children.
	The society I postulate, the birth rate is not below subnormal.
	The birth rate is high.
	It's not below replacement rate like it is now.
	All men have one woman.
	Nobody's being involved in gang bangs, things like this.
	Corn is illegal.
	How is this a worse society than the society you postulate where this type of behavior is fine?
	How?
	What makes it worse?
	For one, when I was saying, like, in the house, I meant like the kids still live at home.
	If the kids move out of the home, I don't see why there would be any negative connotation to the parents consensually letting their freak flag fly with other people.
	Why is it bothersome if the kids are home?
	Because minors shouldn't be involved in anything sexual.
	They're not involved.
	You're not involving them, but why is it that you can't just do that activity anyway?
	If you have an orgy in your house, I'm sorry, but people will probably hear things, so you should probably make sure those people are not under 18.
	Oh, I see.
	So what you're saying is, is that your behavior is awful when it comes to children.
	And so you don't want children anywhere near that behavior because of how awful you think it is.
	That's what you're actually saying.
	I think sexual things around children is bad, which is why.
	Do you think that a mom and a dad who are porking up in their room, right, in a house where they have their kids, that that's bad?
	If their kid heard them or saw them, yeah.
	Well, obviously they try to mitigate the noise, but I mean, I think it's pretty normal inside most households where parents are still having sexual intercourse.
	The kids will probably hear it at some point, don't you?
	I guess.
	I don't.
	Yeah, I mean, it's pretty normal, I think.
	What isn't normal, though, is for people to have big-ass gangbangs in their house.
	You think it's bad for kids?
	And if nobody, so if nobody ever had gangbangs in their house ever again, how would that be bad for society?
	Because the people that want to have gangbangs should have the right to go do that.
	Yeah, but how would it be bad for society if they didn't do it?
	Because you're taking away a right that someone can excise in their autonomy.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Why would that be bad if the benefits to society are good?
	How is it benefiting people telling them how to live their life if it's not negatively impacting?
	We tell you how to live your life for all sorts of things.
	You can't drink and drive.
	You have to wear a seatbelt.
	That negatively impacts them.
	The government, state, it literally controls almost everything that you do because of the ramifications that it has on society if you don't.
	You don't care if your autonomy is plagued then.
	You only care if your autonomy is plagued if you're going to get plugged with two in the mouth and three in the rear.
	So it's like that's the only value you care about is the value of how many Ds you can take in a single night, not about your fucking autonomy, because you ain't out bitching about drunk driving and you ain't bitching about none of that because you say, well, the ramifications to society are so bad that we should cut that out.
	But somehow when it comes to your promiscuity and gang bangs, suddenly, oh no, we have to have that because my autonomy.
	I think you should be able to bang consenting adults if you want to in any quantity you want.
	I think that you should drive sober and not because of benefit to society?
	Because you can hurt someone driving under the influence.
	And you can spread STDs and you can do all sorts of horrible things.
	There's psychological damage associated with orgy.
	There's all sorts of bad ramifications.
	All I want is this.
	Just tell me how it could possibly be if every single person had a nuclear family and not a single person ever again, by choice, ever had another gangbang, how that would be a worse society than this one right now.
	How?
	The key word is by choice.
	Yeah, by choice.
	Yeah.
	If people want to be freaks, let those people be freaks.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	That if by choice everybody started having group sex and gang bangs, society would be objectively worse.
	I also think if everyone didn't, it would probably be objectively worse.
	I think any absolute way of doing that.
	What do you ask me then?
	How would it be objectively worse if everybody didn't do it?
	How?
	If everyone didn't do it?
	At the end of the day, if everyone's doing one thing, you're taking away the autonomy from someone and how they want to live their life.
	Now, whether or not that autonomy is-you're not taking away shit.
	I'm talking about by choice.
	By choice, every human being decides that they're going to involve themselves in gangbangs, or in my world, every human being decides that they're never going to.
	I have no question.
	How would my world be worse than yours?
	Because I can tell you how yours would be worse than mine.
	I have no question.
	So, tell me how mine would be worse.
	Are you done?
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, I'm done.
	Thank you.
	I'm just saying gays are done.
	Okay, anyways, the key word is the choice part.
	So, what I'm saying is that you just won't answer the question.
	We already addressed choice.
	Listen, they've all chosen in gangbang world to all have gangbangs, and they've all chosen in nuclear family world to all have nuclear families.
	The question is: tell me why nuclear family world is worse than gangbang land.
	That's what I want to hear.
	Why is it worse?
	If you were engaging responsibly, I don't think it would make a difference.
	Because if you're engaging responsibly, you're having protected sex, you're having people tested, you're vetting the people that you're talking to, you're not having it around minors.
	There's a lot of factors that go into participating in this lifestyle ethically.
	And also, I don't advocate it for everyone or even the majority of people.
	But my general point is that there's a way to move through this lifestyle that can be ethical and can be safe, and it's not just a free-for-all for everyone.
	So, they're equalized.
	Hang on, real quick, Brian.
	I'm almost done.
	So, they're equalized in your view, both of them.
	I don't think one's better than the other.
	Okay.
	Do you agree that in a world where everybody was involved in gangbangs, STDs would greatly increase?
	Probably.
	And do you agree in a world where you had a purely monogamous society, STDs would greatly decrease?
	No, but I think unwanted pregnancy would be increasing.
	In a world with pure monogamy, STDs would not decrease.
	Oh, sorry, I thought you said increase.
	They would probably decrease, but I think there would be more unwanted pregnancies.
	So, just by your own admission, immediately we can see that gangbang land is worse than my world, just based on the fact there would be STDs, the skyrocket rate of STDs.
	That's not a good factor out there.
	How would you have more unwanted pregnancy in purely monogamous relationships?
	That's crazy.
	You'd be more likely to have pregnancies in gangbang land.
	No, not if you're engaging ethically.
	You should be having protected sex if you're engaging in gangbangs.
	Oh, I just assumed you wouldn't be, so I guess you wouldn't.
	And do most monogamous people use protection?
	They do all the time.
	Oh, okay.
	My bad.
	Sorry that I'm not.
	Sorry.
	So, I mean, immediately we can see the effects of your world are already worse than the effects of mine.
	So, even from a harm reductionist standpoint, you should actually be like, well, wait a second.
	I should be moving people towards monogamy and that type of relationship rather than gangbangs.
	Your entire ethical system is inconsistent.
	Mine is consistent.
	His is consistent.
	Hers is consistent.
	That's why it's better.
	I think the majority of people should be monogamous, though.
	I don't dispute that.
	I just don't think that there's anything wrong with the minority of people that are not that way.
	Yeah, I know, but if everybody was that way, it would be really bad.
	And if everybody lived the way that I postulate, it would be really good.
	That's my point.
	That's how you know your value structures mess up.
	Would it be really good, though?
	Because people would only do nice things if they're going to get something back from someone.
	I do, I'll let you guys make one final point, but there's other panelists here.
	I do want to try to get them in.
	Hey, Andrew, I'll just make it real quick.
	Yeah, Andrew, do you have logic?
	Andrew, do you have any figures?
	Do you have another?
	Do you have more cross for her, or do you just want to make like closing?
	Yeah, I'll just make my last point.
	Okay.
	So, and then I'll let you make yours.
	Yeah.
	So, the thing is, is like when we take it to its logical extreme, if everybody lived like you, world worse.
	If everybody lived like me, world better.
	Like, that's it.
	And so, when I apply my ethical values, right?
	You can laugh, but you're so fucking stupid, you don't understand how dumb you are.
	When I apply my ethical values and they apply their ethical values, they're consistent, they make sense, the world's a better place.
	When you apply your ethical values, it's just dicks in the ass and a bunch of dicks in the mouth.
	That's it.
	That's your whole ethical value.
	Your entire ethical system revolves around how many dudes can plug you and your justification for that.
	That's why we call you Coombers, degenerates, and disgusting heathens.
	Then you are.
	Why are you?
	That's true.
	Like, why are you so angry?
	I know.
	He really took that in.
	He's a Sperg king.
	He loves to do that.
	No one's right or wrong, Belater.
	But smoke that cigarette, boy.
	All right.
	Why did I say that was disrespectful or even untrue?
	You really went in.
	No, I didn't say it was untrue.
	I am a heathen.
	I'm sorry about that.
	Exactly.
	You can't say a single thing I said.
	Well, I actually get the least amount of my value from my looks, which is why my OnlyFans was successful.
	That wasn't his argument.
	Well, he said a single thing that was untrue.
	That was untrue.
	I didn't say that.
	So therefore, it wasn't untrue.
	Do you have a final response on this?
	Because I need to bring other people in.
	I got to wrap up the show.
	She's not even paying attention.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Andrew, do you?
	I like him.
	Any other thoughts?
	Or I think you have to.
	No, I was going to let her do her close, though.
	I said I wouldn't.
	All right.
	Oh, he wants a respond.
	Yeah.
	He wants a replay.
	I respect his subjective opinion.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That's her clothes.
	You sticking around, Andrew?
	Are you heading out?
	Yeah, I do.
	I do have to go guys to the end of the day.
	It's three in the morning here.
	Thanks, guys.
	I really appreciate it.
	I don't take any of this personally.
	I like having conversations all over the place.
	It was nice to meet you.
	All of you.
	And I hope we talk again soon.
	Yo, W's in the chat for Andrew.
	Andrew, thank you for joining us.
	Shoot us over a raid.
	We'll entertain the Crucible Crew for another 20, 30 minutes or so, and then we're going to wrap up the show.
	Thank you, Andrew.
	Do appreciate it.
	Okay.
	We are going to try to get this wrapped up here very shortly, guys.
	Guys, TTS is $69 if you want to get a message in.
	We have a couple that are coming through right now.
	Touch My Blade donated $200.
	Didn't most Western atrocities occur based on applying the colonizers' views on another culture?
	Like for USA Native Americans, has happened in many countries.
	Touch My Blade.
	I do apologize if you intended this to be for Andrew.
	But I just wanted to let the exchange go through.
	So I do apologize for the, it's about a 10, 15 minute delay there.
	But thank you, man, for sending that in.
	We have another one here.
	Touch My Blade donated $69.
	Yo, thank you, man.
	Degen behavior is still D-Gen.
	Stop the code.
	Yo, W's in the chat for Touch My Blade.
	Thank you so much for your patronage, man.
	Really, really appreciate it.
	We have Kat here.
	Thank you, Kat, coming in here.
	And you know what we were just going to do?
	Thank you, Touch My Blade.
	I'm just going to go ahead.
	We'll just do the roast session right now.
	Oxcatso donated $69.
	Panel is bug boys.
	Pack him up and ship him to Gang Bang Land.
	Okay, Kat.
	Thank you.
	It's bugged, I guess.
	Okay, so guys, we're actually just immediately going to shift into the roast session.
	We're going to do a, let's see here, we're going to do a, just to keep it brief, the roasts will be, it'll be $30 and up.
	I'm going to get everything posted here really quick.
	Any final thoughts from any panelists?
	I'm hungry.
	What did that last comment mean?
	Because I have no idea what it meant.
	Okay.
	No.
	We ow.
	Everything.
	All of it.
	Felt like a different language.
	What?
	She said the last comment.
	That was just pulled up.
	Yeah, I had no idea what anything meant.
	It was pretty stupid, but it's okay.
	Don't worry about it.
	Yeah, any other final thoughts from anybody?
	I have a couple things, but just giving you guys an opportunity here.
	No.
	Yo, Crucible Crew, thank you for the raid, Andrew.
	Really appreciate it.
	Guys, we're Crucible Crew.
	We're just going to do like 20-30-minute little roast session.
	So if you want, get your roast in.
	We got $30 roast, streamlabs.com/slash whatever.
	Get it in, boys.
	Get it in.
	Okay, if you want to get a roast in, get it in.
	And I think I got everything all set up there, so we're all good to go.
	While we're doing that, just a couple final notes here that I have.
	Oh, that reminds me.
	We do a segment at the very end of the show where everybody removes their makeup.
	Who here is show of hands?
	Who's down?
	I have makeup wipes.
	Neutrogena, the best.
	Best.
	Neutrogena is not a good makeup brand.
	It breaks you out.
	It breaks you out.
	You couldn't buy like Sephora.
	It's really cheap.
	Look.
	Like Sephora is cheap, but so good.
	You're a cell water.
	Whatever.
	Right.
	Listen, I'm willing to do it, but not with that brand.
	What?
	You guys are really good.
	I have really.
	Everyone, send in gifted so we get better makeup wipes.
	Who's willing to do it?
	Who's willing to take off their makeup?
	Save me some work for the wipe.
	Boom.
	Adriana, you want to take a look at it?
	I have sensitive skin.
	My skin will burn.
	No, like, actually, I have like dermatitis, so.
	Okay.
	But I'll do it with soap and water.
	It's spanna.
	I don't want to go to Japan.
	I don't want to go to Japan.
	I can do that.
	Okay.
	Will you do it?
	Look at me.
	Abigail, will you take all the makeup off?
	Sure.
	Okay, W's in the chat for Abigail.
	There you go.
	She's a trooper.
	I'll do it right now.
	I'll do it with soap and water.
	Take your lensless glasses off.
	Do you want me to do a soap and water instead?
	I just can't.
	I really can't use that because I have a really bad skin colour.
	Ultra-soft cleansing towelettes.
	No, like I have an actual diagnosed skin condition.
	I have really bad dermatitis.
	If I use that, I'll break out.
	Okay, all right.
	We'll give you a pass.
	Those are actually really bad for you.
	Yeah.
	Sophia.
	No, thank you.
	And it burns really bad.
	Sky, will you do it?
	No.
	I'll give you a $2 bill.
	No.
	Okay, listen.
	You fucked me earlier at the Viking.
	I did not fuck you.
	No.
	Oh.
	Okay, wait.
	You have a boyfriend.
	Young up rewind.
	Flip it and shipping.
	So you bowed?
	So do you have paper towels?
	Yeah, I bowed.
	Oh, wait.
	No, I didn't bow it.
	Any paper towels?
	No, I'll give you the pass, whatever.
	No, like, I'll actually do it because my face is awesome.
	I mean, if you want to go run to the bathrooms for a kid.
	Yeah, we have paper towels right over there.
	What's up?
	What?
	Oh, yeah, you messed me up earlier because you made me, you're like, you made me tell and then you didn't tell.
	Tell what?
	Your body count.
	So if you're not wearing makeup, you don't have any to take off, I'm not doing it.
	Fairs use the sword.
	I don't have any makeup.
	Thanks for watching.
	Look, I don't want to think of each one of my exes as a number.
	So I'm not going to answer that question.
	I want to keep that private out of respect for my ex-rolls.
	When he said that, I'm going to want that one.
	Right around my hand.
	Oh, my goodness.
	What?
	Okay.
	I'll just.
	I am.
	It's acceptable.
	That's smart.
	There's a nice loophole.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	All right, let me let some of the chats come through.
	I'm sure there's some roasts coming.
	All right, we have.
	Oh, yes.
	And yes.
	Sons of Libert donated $29.99.
	Andrew was great on.
	No, he looks so pale.
	Thank you.
	The world is good.
	These are degenerate women.
	Oh.
	Cancer on our society.
	Wait, hold up the Sons of Liberty.
	Thank you.
	Hold it up to the camera.
	And then she's taken hers off over here.
	That's that's great.
	Oh, you used, did you use two?
	Is that number two that you used?
	No funny.
	Okay, that's cool.
	Um, sons, really appreciate it, man.
	I did see him on Pierce.
	He absolutely wrecked, sank, destroyed him.
	Well done, Andrew.
	I don't know if you're still watching, but well done.
	Uh, okay, we have Touchman.
	Thank you, other than the cup code.
	Appreciate it.
	Also, why do these girls do it for such low money?
	Wow.
	Can't see the ROI to be honest.
	Wow.
	There you go, guys.
	Good times.
	All right.
	Look at all that removed makeup.
	Thank you, Touchman.
	OJ Simpson donated $33.
	Chair three, you know, I'm not going to hook up with you, right?
	Chair one, we should mate.
	You're chair one, your chair three.
	I don't.
	Um, I don't get it.
	I, yeah, I'm good.
	I think you're good.
	I'm so confused.
	I don't know.
	I don't get O.J. Simpson.
	I don't know.
	What are you talking about?
	While we're letting a few others trickle in, just a couple, like I said, we're not going to be able to hit all these.
	You guys, they all answered the questionnaire 20 different things.
	We're not going to hit it all.
	But let's see here.
	For Sky, actually, no, going for Peach, you did something interesting one sec.
	Here we go again.
	Peach.
	Or wait, no, who was it?
	It was Belle.
	Wait, Bella, Angelina.
	You disagree.
	With what?
	That you disagree that it's acceptable for a man to refuse to date a woman because she is overweight.
	It's unacceptable.
	No, okay.
	The statement is: it is acceptable for a man to refuse to date a woman because she's overweight.
	I meant no.
	You circle if you disagree.
	Oh, so you're fine with it.
	Okay, yeah, I know.
	It's reading confidential.
	I get it.
	It's, you know.
	Okay, all right.
	Well, going to Skye and Sophia, then Skye for 20, transgender individuals have a duty to disclose to romantic partners.
	You disagree.
	And then Sophia, not disagree, not straight for a man to date a trans woman.
	I feel like it depends on their how far they are into their journey.
	If you still, like, have male parts and you're dressing like a woman, then obviously that's something I feel like you should disclose.
	If you are like full, like after surgery, like I feel like you can't even tell.
	I don't think it's necessarily that big of a deal.
	I wouldn't date someone trans, but that's just my what?
	So your position is if they've fully transitioned, they got the bottom surgery, then they not like not a big deal if they don't disclose.
	Yeah, if they like like genuinely have like the new their new anatomy, I will.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you can understand.
	Then I feel like it's if you like legit can't tell.
	Like I don't know what it looks like before and after, so I can't speak if you can tell or not.
	I mean, I but yeah.
	So I mean, there's two things here.
	I think for the safety of the transgender individual, they probably should disclose regardless of their however far they are when it comes to their transition.
	And also just to do the right thing by the other person.
	Like I yeah, they should they should tell them.
	You should tell them.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like what if your intention is like going into this like relationship or whatever, like this is somebody you want to marry, have kids with, like transgender, like a transgender woman can't have children.
	Yeah.
	I feel okay.
	Now that you've said that, I understand that.
	Okay.
	Well, earlier when I was thinking about it.
	Yeah, no, earlier when I was thinking about it, I just kind of, but now that you said that, you're right.
	Women or transgender women can't have children.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but here, I'll take that even a step further.
	Or like periods or anything.
	I'll take it even a step further.
	Even if it's a one-night stand and there's not like a there's no, you know, we're gonna get pregnant.
	That's not involved.
	Still should disclose, even if you're fully transitioned.
	I mean, if that's your personal take, I can't argue with that.
	You can just choose to stay abstinent and then exactly.
	You never have to worry about business.
	You never have to worry about it.
	He's never actually promoting abstract.
	She has the best idea.
	Does anybody know who this girl is?
	There's like, this was like years ago.
	There was this makeup lady on YouTube and she like came out as, well, I guess he, whatever, I don't know.
	Came out as trans and I think disclosed, I could be wrong, but like did say that she, he, I don't fucking know.
	She didn't disclose to her boyfriend, and they'd been dating for like, I think a couple years that she was trans.
	Like, okay, well, I feel like that.
	Well, I feel like if you're in a committed, I feel like depending on their conversations that they have and if they wanted children and like they wanted something more with that, I feel like then, yeah, also keeping a secret like that from someone that you've been with, I feel like there's a certain time period that if you've been like in a committed relationship with them and they like don't want kids, then I feel like you should tell them.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And then Sophia, you said, so the statement is not straight for a man to date a trans woman.
	You disagree.
	So they're not straight if they date a trans woman.
	Yeah, so if like me or Brandon, if we were dating a trans woman, we would not be straight.
	Do you agree with that or you disagree?
	You would be straight.
	Okay, so you disagree then.
	By the way, I'll read this really quick.
	Ice, first person to snitch on the illegals on the panel gets $750.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Ice.
	Appreciate it.
	Well done.
	I think like she said, if they present like a woman, they look like a woman.
	They have the body parts of a woman.
	That's not.
	I think you're straight.
	You guys can cancel me if you want.
	That's not a vagina.
	Like, you can put a hole.
	You can surgically put a hole inside of you.
	So what you're saying is that if they go through the transition process, it should be something that should be talked about, even if they don't show any sign when they meet that person that they're in the relationship with, right?
	Well, that was my disagreement with Skye, but now we're on to the topic of like just looking at it from a bird's eye view.
	If a man is dating a trans woman, is it straight?
	I don't think it's straight.
	I think it should be discussed.
	But that's not really what we're.
	Well, I'm basically agreeing with you, okay?
	That's what I'm saying.
	Fine, I'll take it.
	But so I guess, like, why would it be straight?
	Because they don't look like a man and they're not.
	Okay.
	Fucking.
	How about this?
	What if the individual is a cross-dresser?
	somebody who so still has Oh my gosh, can I tell a story?
	Yeah, your ex was a cross-dresser?
	No, There was this guy in Ohio who worked at this Walmart hoping to get sued.
	And he was like, I think if I know the definition correctly, a cross-dresser is like a man who dressed like a woman, correct?
	He wore heels to work at Walmart every single day, hoping to get sued so he would get a huge check, but he never did.
	And so he started off like the first two weeks just for the bag, but he never got fired.
	So then he had to keep up the act.
	And so his name is Terry from Walmart.
	And still to this day, he still wears the heels to work.
	Oh, and he just is like, oh, that's Terry.
	Sorry.
	No, so okay, anyway.
	Sorry, sorry.
	So wait, let's say like somebody cross-dresses.
	What does that mean?
	So they don't identify as trans.
	Like, they're like, I'm still a man, but I just enjoy dressing up like a woman.
	Would that be straight?
	Because you said if they look like a woman, it would be straight.
	No, I think that person would be gay.
	Or.
	Okay, so what's I think there's other terms?
	I could be so wrong about this, but there's other terms other than like gay shape, bisexual that would like define liking someone who cross-dresses or all the situations that you're explaining.
	I could be so wrong, but that's just from what you're saying.
	Yeah, sure, that's fine.
	I mean, yeah, there's like pansexual.
	There's a lot.
	There's pansexual, but that's not what I'm talking about.
	I'm saying it would not be straight.
	Like a man dating a trans woman, that's not straight.
	How about this here?
	We'll make it super easy.
	So you would agree that straight is short for short form slang for heterosexual, right?
	Okay.
	And when we're talking about heterosexuality, homosexuality, we're not referring to somebody's gender identity.
	Like same-sex attraction, opposite sex attraction.
	Heterosexuality has to do with sex.
	So do you, let me ask you this.
	Do you think transgender women, are they male or female?
	Whatever they identify as.
	Well, you can't.
	So here, I'll just go ahead.
	I'm going to just for the sake of argument.
	Transgender women are women.
	Are they female, though?
	No.
	Biologically, no.
	No.
	Okay.
	So in what world then could it ever be possible if two males, regardless of their gender identity, regardless of the plastic surgery they've had, if two males are engaged in a sex act, how could that ever be anything but a homosexual act?
	I guess, yeah, that's fair.
	Right.
	And so if two, a male and a female, that would be heterosexual, right?
	Maybe at the very minimal bisexual because it looks like a woman, but like, hold on.
	I'm like, I don't think it's either or.
	I think it's, there's like a whole different term to.
	What is it?
	The Kinsey scale, as they say.
	There is like a specific term for it.
	I just don't know because I met someone who's like, I'm blah, blah, blah.
	I'm something sexual.
	And I was like, what does that mean?
	They're like, oh, like, I specifically like trans woman or something like that.
	I don't know the exact, I don't remember the exact specifics, but there's like other words other than heterosexual or homosexual to explain it.
	How about this?
	A man is dating a transgender woman who's pre-op.
	Is that straight?
	No, I think that that would go under the queer spectrum, whatever it is.
	Yeah, it's not straight.
	It's not gay.
	It's something else that they identify as.
	It's yeah, look, the thing is, is you cannot change your sex.
	You can't change it.
	Personally, I don't really believe in all the gender stuff, whatever.
	But just for the sake of argument, just make it simple.
	I mean, why are we even talking about it?
	There's no gay people or trans people here.
	So it was on the same note.
	And your sexual preference is like feminine presenting, but then you also are okay with a penis, then you'd like your bisexual, right?
	Because you like men and women.
	There's like a different term.
	Yeah, there is a different sex term.
	That's what I would think.
	Sure.
	I mean, I would grant that a man who would date cis women and also a transgender woman, I would grant that that could be bisexual.
	It's a community of the rose.
	But it wouldn't be straight, is the thing.
	Yeah, you're definitely not straight.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, I'm gonna let some of these roasts come through.
	Guys, get them in.
	We're going to wrap in like 10 minutes, guys, so we'll get them in.
	Somebody donated $29.99.
	Men have the right to vote because they have a duty to country, selective service.
	Women have the right to vote with no duty to country.
	Would you rather have access to abortion or democracy?
	Jay Smooth donated $30.
	Glad you guys are back.
	These girls were a little too cooked, but far beyond burnt.
	Yo, Jay, thank you for the roast, man.
	Appreciate it.
	And then Sons of Liberty, thanks for the roast.
	Appreciate it.
	Stevie Ezey donated $30.
	Happy New York.
	I smashed out all your live streams over the holidays cause I dumped my high maintenance X. Thank you for making me laugh, team, and doing your bit to convert the 304s one by one.
	Yo, Stevie, thank you for the uh this.
	Thank you, man.
	Welcome back.
	Thank you.
	Do not look for a house in Gangbangville.
	Horrible train stations, I heard.
	Terror, the worst train stations.
	Yo, Odis, good to see you, man.
	Thank you so much.
	Mr. Basteman donated $30.
	Thank you, man.
	Welcome back to the Whatever Strumpic Talk podcast.
	Now, with more weight.
	Super fatty boy.
	I lost 10 pounds, okay?
	Daddy Trump's back kissed the ring.
	It was like 6 pounds, okay.
	Dark Pink donated $30.
	Number seven was a pain in the rainbows every time you spoke with silly lies you told.
	How can you live a life fly like that?
	Number six, it was a pleasure seeing you on the show.
	Which one?
	I think you were one of the nicest of all.
	Oh, that's me.
	Is that you?
	Maybe they're skipping over to Dark Lapia.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Thank you, Dark Pink.
	Really appreciate it.
	Yo, 30.
	Guys, $30 TTS if you want to get a roast in.
	We'll let a few more, we'll do five, ten more minutes, then we're going to wrap up here.
	Let's see if there's anything else here that's interesting.
	Let's see.
	We could do man or bear really quick.
	Would you rather, and only a few of you answered bear.
	Would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the forest, Sky?
	I said bear.
	Okay.
	Sophia.
	Have you ever seen a bear?
	I have.
	I've seen them.
	And yeah, I travel a lot.
	I go hiking and stuff.
	I've seen them in person.
	A grizzly?
	Yeah.
	Peaches, you said bear.
	I don't identify bears, but I've seen bears.
	Oh, yeah, Abigail.
	Is that that's really shocking?
	I have pictures.
	No, no, I'm saying it's shocking you'd pick the bear.
	Are you saying like over an average like man?
	If like if it randomly selected from like a pool of the like all the average men on the planet.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	Oh, that's depressing.
	I'm not.
	Yeah, I'm not coming after you at all, though.
	Just so nothing personal.
	Yeah, nothing personal.
	Who else picked bear?
	Well, I did, but I picked bear over any human.
	You picked bear?
	She also picked bear.
	Oh, my goodness.
	I love what you're doing.
	Wait, you picked- Wait, you picked bear over any human and you do trains.
	What?
	Roasted.
	Yeah, I'll choose a bear over any human.
	Boom roasted.
	I don't talk to the people when I'm doing it.
	Go off, Queen.
	What else you got, Darkadia?
	Come on.
	What else you got?
	Boy, that's crazy.
	That's crazy, man.
	I don't have to talk to them when I'm doing the trains.
	If I come and do content with a man words, he's probably going to want to talk.
	Oh, I didn't know that.
	I don't want to talk to him.
	But a bear will eat you.
	Bear will not talk to me.
	Bear will kill you.
	If he's hungry.
	If he's not hungry, probably just going to keep going.
	Bears like enjoy attacking just for fun.
	What are the odds that it's not hungry?
	Oh, boy, I gotta criticize.
	I haven't seen enough survival shows.
	I would much rather come across a man than a bear.
	I like my life.
	Wait, so Bella.
	Okay, Bella and Adriana.
	We'll start with this one.
	The statement is: you can be racist towards white people.
	You disagree, Bella and Adriana.
	You also disagree.
	Okay, I have a question about that statement.
	Are you saying, like, it's okay to be racist towards white people, or people can be racist towards white people?
	People can be racist.
	Like, it's possible.
	Yeah, it's possible.
	Yeah.
	I thought you meant, like, is it okay?
	I'm just not okay with racism.
	How did you?
	I was not paying attention.
	You can be racist.
	No, because when I read that, I specifically asked myself that.
	I was like, that question can mean two different things.
	Also, you can be sexist towards men, to which you also disagree.
	Well, like, how are you asking the question?
	Is it possible for you to be sexist toward men or is it okay?
	Possible.
	Is it possible?
	Is it possible?
	Yes, it's possible.
	Because some people say, for example, well, oh, men are the oppressors.
	Men are the oppressor class.
	Men have like systematic privilege or whatever.
	So you can't be sexist towards them.
	Or same with white people.
	White people have, like, privilege and systemic power, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	You can't be racist towards white people because of this.
	Like, again, is it okay?
	Are you saying it's okay?
	Are you saying it's okay or is it possible?
	Because I'm not saying it's okay.
	I'm just saying it's possible for people to do that.
	But you think it's okay?
	I don't think it's okay.
	Oh, then why did well?
	Because I misunderstood the question.
	So then, whatever your understanding of the question, though, because you said here's the two options.
	Oh, I thought it was this.
	No, I was thinking either or, so I didn't know how to answer the question.
	That's fine.
	That's fine.
	Let's see.
	Oh, we have J Smooth here.
	J Smooth donated $40.
	If I'm into trans, who the hell cares?
	It means you buy.
	It's definitely a kink move on.
	This cast is kind of fried short of a happy meal.
	Let's see if there's any others that are.
	Adriana, where are you going?
	I'm picking up a definition.
	She's going to get more cookies.
	She went to get more cookies.
	She's looking up for the definition of can.
	Okay.
	Let's see here.
	You guys are all surprisingly reasonable.
	Yeah, you guys are cool.
	Yeah.
	Thank you, Virginia.
	I'll read it just as a chair two needs to deflate those huge bears on her chest.
	Don't worry, don't worry.
	What was it?
	Okay, what did you find?
	It's scoliosexual.
	I'm not pronouncing it right, probably, but it's scoliosexual when you're into trans people.
	Scolio?
	Yeah, I'm probably not pronouncing it right, but I just.
	I've never heard of the specific term to be into trans people.
	That's the first thing I thought of Scolios.
	I didn't need to.
	Well, I don't think I'm saying it right, honestly.
	Okay, most down bad you've ever been for a guy.
	Sky, you moved in with him the first time you met.
	I don't know if that's down bad, though.
	Well, I don't, bro, I didn't know what to put, if I'm being honest.
	You can just, yeah.
	Sophia has not been down bad.
	Peaches has not been down bad.
	Bella left it blank.
	Oh, wait, hold on.
	No.
	Oh, you put a recording device under his couch.
	You were down bad.
	You put a recording device under his couch.
	That's the way to do it.
	Is he like if he was cheating?
	He was.
	I caught him with the whole girl in the house and everything.
	Our Spanish princess over here says she followed him.
	You followed him, so you stopped him in the street.
	Adriana here with the most down bad she's ever been for a guy.
	She sent a guy money that she wasn't even dating.
	That's pretty.
	Well, you okay?
	Give her a crime.
	How much was it?
	You still wanted him?
	Like 500.
	You still love him?
	Oh, God.
	You should tell your future boyfriend that.
	You send me some money?
	They don't have any more because.
	How much did you send him?
	They're okay.
	Tell us.
	I just do things for him.
	How much?
	Like, one time he was like, she's not saying a number.
	Did he ask for it?
	How much?
	How much?
	I don't know if he's watching it.
	How much?
	He's definitely not watching.
	That beast no one's going to be.
	How about that?
	Wait, did you smash?
	Oh, yeah.
	Straight enough.
	Yes, I did.
	How much?
	How much money did you sit?
	It wasn't a lot, but just like little bits at a time.
	You sent him multiple times.
	Yeah, like he'd be like, oh, I really need money for this.
	Or one time he was like, me and my family, like we're really going through it.
	And I want to drive Instacart, but I have no gas.
	So I sent him money.
	Damn.
	How much?
	Damn.
	I only spent him 30 bucks for gas.
	That's nothing.
	What's the most?
	It was always little bits at a time.
	It wasn't like $100.
	So in total, roughly.
	It sounds like a couple hundred bucks, right?
	Is that fair to say?
	Maybe.
	She's like 10km.
	I'm buying him.
	Was it the Tinder swindler or whatever?
	Tinder Swindler.
	Were you one of those?
	That sounds so scary.
	Honestly, that's probably not even the worst I've done, though.
	Like, there was this one guy I dated.
	And I would like, because he just moved in for like to his apartment.
	And I like bought him like an AC.
	I bought him like his furniture and his bedroom.
	Now he fully slept with another girl on.
	Damn.
	Why are you entertaining these guys?
	Well, this was like a long time ago.
	I've changed.
	I'm growing.
	She's a pioneer.
	Yeah.
	What a legend.
	I was a kind person and then people took advantage of it, so I stopped being kind.
	Damn.
	I don't think that's kinda kind.
	Never.
	I'm never naive.
	Maybe you wasn't incredible.
	I sound like that's why that's why body count matters, though.
	It's like a girl's like gone fucked over by all these dudes and then she's like, then you're the guy who has to come along and like deal with her trauma.
	It's just like, and you find out she's still sending money to her ex.
	You don't do it anymore.
	You did all that shit for the other dudes.
	Here I am.
	Here I am.
	Send me $30.
	You're not going to send me anybody.
	Now I got to deal with your shit.
	Damn.
	Okay, that's cool.
	But sometimes we woman even pay for.
	I mean, we even help men's just for saying, oh, can you see him?
	No, Hamas.
	Sometimes we don't have men's for help.
	We help for love.
	So I did it in my heart, but I think I agree too.
	But now you're not putting out anymore for your other boyfriend.
	I think for me, I maybe did it too soon.
	And I was just a little more like in La La Land because I was younger.
	But I think now that I'm like older, I've matured more.
	I've gone through therapy and grown.
	I don't do that as much anymore.
	But if I'm going to be with someone committed long-term, then yes, I will do that again.
	But right off the rip, off the bat, you know, I'm going to be a little more selective of who I'm giving things to and buying things for.
	Damn, that's too bad.
	Yeah.
	Damn, bro.
	Adriana, final thing here, and then we'll let the last chats go through and wrap the show.
	Adriana, the statement is women have equal rights to men in the USA.
	You disagree.
	Why?
	Wait, women have equal right.
	Can you repeat it?
	Sorry.
	I'm getting tired.
	So you don't believe that women have equal rights to men?
	The statement is women have equal rights to men in the United States.
	You circled it, indicating you disagree with that statement.
	Why do you disagree?
	Not fully, because some women don't have rights, don't have say over the rights of their bodies in some areas.
	Last call on the roast, guys.
	I'm going to last call.
	But what why would that so the statement is though women have equal rights to men in the United States?
	It's not clear to me if uh the abortion conversation yeah I know but like men don't have any reproductive rights So like how how would it be an inequality between men and women men have say and women don't how do men wait hold on so here's here's what happens woman gets as soon as a woman gets pregnant she can Let's say she's in a state where she can get an abortion.
	She can choose to have an abortion or she can choose to keep it What say does a man have in either of these situations I was talking about the states that women don't have the option But so what does that have to do with men though?
	Men don't have men have say in what they can do with their balls Wait, so hold on if a man there's no restriction on what men can do with their balls wait hold on okay, so if a man gets a woman pregnant in one of these states or in any state and the woman he doesn't want it's a one-night stand He's like, I just want to have fun.
	She's like, oh, I'm pregnant.
	I'm going to keep it.
	He's on the hook for child support for 18 years.
	I think it just depends on the state.
	There's every single state in the country.
	If you get a woman pregnant and she keeps it, you owe her child support for 18 years.
	Sometimes in some states, it's up to 21.
	Not always.
	Yes, always.
	Tell me the situation.
	I've experienced different.
	I've heard other situations.
	Have you had children?
	No, but I'm saying I've heard other situations.
	What's the situation?
	Like, where men don't have to pay child support.
	What situation would that be?
	I don't know.
	I've just heard people say, like, oh, I don't have to pay child support.
	Or like, oh, like, so-and-so doesn't have to pay child support for the baby, blah, blah, blah, but it's their mother.
	So, I mean, people can come to all sorts of, like, agreements.
	But if the woman goes to court and she's like, I want child support, she's getting child support.
	I typically side with the women when it comes to the children.
	Like, she's a fit mother.
	Like, if a woman doesn't go to court and she's like, I just don't want to support her.
	What situation?
	She wasn't a fit mother.
	I don't know.
	Maybe I just don't have all the facts.
	But in a typical situation where there's a child and the mom wants child support, she goes to court.
	She's going to get it.
	There's no way.
	Oh, you can't tell the judge.
	I'd rather not get it.
	Most of the time, yes, you're right.
	So, yeah, but what are the scenarios in which that's not the case?
	I don't know.
	That was the only scenario I have.
	So I take that.
	So, okay, how about this?
	Just to move things on, besides abortion, is there any other right that a man has that a woman doesn't?
	Not that I can think of.
	Okay.
	So that's why I said, take back the statement.
	That was the only one I thought of.
	Okay, that's fine.
	All right, guys.
	Last few chats.
	Guys, final call.
	$30 TTS.
	Get them in.
	MLK Jr. Sr. donated $30.
	MLK.
	I blackened most of the racism I experiences from black people.
	Makes me sad and want to cry.
	Chair one is cutie.
	Oh, Skye, there you go.
	You got a fan.
	Okay.
	Thank you, MLK.
	Joe Mama donated $30.
	Someone tell Abigail to stop leaning her face on the mic.
	She's going to catch germs and get sick.
	Yeah, I think Scarlett Scarlet was sitting there before and she was like licking the microphone.
	You might just, like, in once, two weeks, you might just want to like.
	All right.
	Thank you, man.
	A hillbuck donated $30.
	Thank you, man.
	Brian and Andrew, big W's.
	Thank you, dude.
	Virgin Giga Chat.
	Don't get dipped by Anala.
	Females, get educated on the basic meanings of words, please.
	I'm hungry.
	Get a burrito, Brian.
	I'm going to get some food after this.
	Thank you, man.
	I appreciate it.
	Touch my blade, donated $30.
	Scolio, blah, blah, blah.
	Sexual.
	Just say gay.
	Okay, and then thank you.
	Touch my blood.
	Appreciate it.
	We have three more.
	Jay Smooth donated $30.
	Tell wannabe Johnny Bravo to stop making love to himself.
	The girl in seat two is cute.
	Yo, Jay, hey.
	Brutal.
	guys can roast back if you want it changed one of the words $29.99.
	W. Brixon, you're absolutely right.
	It's not a love.
	It's a colonic sex hole.
	Chair 3.
	Do you ever pay attention to the conversation or only on your fast-fading looks?
	Shut up, Chair 4.
	Nobody asked.
	You guys can say something back if you want.
	I mean, that's the roast.
	No, I'll just take it like a good girl.
	Okay, good for you.
	Have a game.
	All right.
	The fork on the leftist.
	I don't do that anymore while you're literally smiling and laughing, saying you still love him.
	There are no good 3FOs, bros.
	That's a 304.
	I think this is about you.
	H-O-E.
	You still love him.
	When was the last time you did this?
	Yeah, it was upside down.
	When was this?
	He lives back in Vassal.
	He lives across the country.
	So, like, I haven't seen him in a while.
	Like, over two years ago.
	You're still in love with a guy who you haven't seen or talked to in two years?
	You know, I talked to him.
	What?
	Is he fucking other chicks?
	Probably.
	And you're in love with this dude, bro.
	You sound like me.
	I mean, I can still have love for somebody and not be with them.
	I just love him as a person, and I know I'm never going to be with him.
	If he was like, hey, fly out, come live with me, would you do it?
	No.
	If he moves back out here, would you date him?
	I would think about it, yeah.
	She's in love with him, but wouldn't date the guy.
	Okay.
	I don't get it.
	Yeah.
	Also, from my understanding, a 304 is a sex worker.
	Is that correct?
	Not necessarily.
	All right.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	I just want to clear that.
	That's not.
	All right.
	Two more.
	Last call, guys.
	Who donated $29.99?
	Chair 4 is Summer from Rick and Morty.
	I'll take it.
	I don't get it.
	I don't watch that.
	Yeah, I like Summer.
	What?
	I'm barely on episode.
	MLK Jr. Sr. donated $30.
	Chair 3, tell me how bad it stank baby girl.
	Bro, what?
	Bro.
	Okay.
	Damn.
	All right.
	Thank you, MLK.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay.
	All right, guys.
	I think that's it.
	I think that's it.
	You think so?
	Yeah, let's go to Twitch.
	Let's do a little Twitch shout-out.
	Oh, should I do a rid?
	I'll do a quick rid.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow in the prime sub.
	We're going to ramp the show up here in just a sec.
	Guys, drop us on your way out, guys.
	Just hit the follow button.
	Drop us a follow.
	Drop us a prime sub.
	Would very much appreciate it.
	I am going to...
	Who are we going to read?
	Who are we going to read?
	Valpo for the day.
	Oh, my God.
	Forget it, bro.
	I'm not even.
	I'm just, there's nobody.
	Okay.
	Let's see here.
	Wait, hold on.
	Oh, call to action.
	I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity to give you, some of you, a call to action.
	Those of you who are involved in like OF, S work, whatever, would you consider stopping S work?
	OF Entirely.
	Make a commitment right now tonight.
	Skye, Sophia, Abby, Gail.
	What?
	Peaches.
	Would you commit on the whatever podcast to stopping sex work right now?
	No.
	Or what?
	Yeah, what am I getting?
	What's the return?
	Your soul.
	What's that?
	Your Bible verse.
	What good does it do a man to gain the world?
	Gain the world.
	Lose your soul.
	That whole thing.
	Skye, would you consider quitting right now?
	No, thank you.
	Okay.
	What about your peaches?
	Probably not.
	Okay.
	I need a better answer.
	I just wanted to say, like, you guys are still young.
	It's not too late to change the channels.
	You have to read it.
	I'm not that young.
	Well, no, I said these three girls.
	You guys are all 18, right?
	20.
	20.
	Okay, so you guys are still pretty young college age.
	It's not too late to, you know, explore other career fields because fast money isn't over.
	I have a question for you guys.
	So doing OF, do you guys, did you guys come into OF with the mindset of I'm going to make this much and I'm going to quit?
	Or did you come in a mindset like I'm going to get this old and that's when I'm going to quit?
	Mine was kind of like I said, mine was kind of, I was working two jobs and going to school while doing OF.
	It was kind of a necessity.
	Like I just needed it because I needed to get out of the situation I was in.
	And now, once I did get ended up getting out of that situation, I started making, I made a substantial income off of it where I could not switch to another job and make the same income that I am now unless I went through years and years of school, which my parent, I had 30 grand saved up for school.
	My parents stole it from me for my college.
	So I didn't.
	So now I would have to like save up and restart and do all of that.
	And I just.
	So based on what you make now, Abio, can you read five pages from Green Eggs and Ham?
	You're asking a lot out of me.
	I don't know if I'm going to be able to do all this.
	I can't even reach it.
	All right, go ahead.
	Okay.
	Okay, first page is a little hard, guys.
	Here, while you're working on that, that's the cover of the book.
	Yo, guys, remember to report your local illegal to us.
	Okay, thank you guys.
	Appreciate it.
	Green Eggs and Ham by Dr. Seuss.
	Beginner books, guys.
	First page is hams.
	Yeah, show it.
	Show it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Read like four pages.
	Green eggs and ham.
	I am Sam.
	I am Sam.
	I'm struggling.
	I am Sam.
	That's Sam I am.
	That's Sam.
	I am.
	I do not like that Sam.
	I am.
	Do you like Green Eggs and Ham?
	I do not like them.
	Sam, I am.
	I do not like them.
	Green Eggs and Ham.
	Okay, that's good.
	That's good.
	All right.
	That's enough.
	Well done.
	Well done.
	Just leave it on the table.
	Just leave it on the table.
	All right, guys.
	GG to the panel.
	Last call.
	Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	We will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, DM at whatever on Instagram.
	07s in the chat.
	07s in the chat.
	Appreciate it.
	Would appreciate it.
	Are we forgetting anything or are we good?
	I think we're good.
	What's phonics mean?
	Hooked on phonics.
	Where did you even see that?
	I don't know.
	It just popped up on chat.
	Oh, I didn't see it.
	Okay, guys.
	07s.
	Is there anything else?
	Wait, did we have a react that we had to do or like something we had to pull up?
	We already reacted.
	No, I think we're good.
	All right.
	07s in the chat, guys.
	Thank you so much.
	Glad to be back.
	Tune in on Tuesday, 5 p.m. Pacific for another dating talk.
	07's in the chat.
	Hope you guys have a good night.
	We'll see you next time.
	Good night, guys.

▲