Whatever Podcast - 1 SHOW LEFT?! Andrew Wilson IRL vs. SUPER FEMINISTS! She Did 1 Guy PER DAY?!

Dec. 16, 2024 - Whatever Podcast

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1 SHOW LEFT?! Andrew Wilson IRL vs. SUPER FEMINISTS! She Did 1 Guy PER DAY?! | Dating Talk #221

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	Hey, they are still good.
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	I was ate too many when I was a kid.
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	Oh, wait a minute.
	I love it.
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	Take it.
	Oh, hey, like a piece of yours.
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	Yellow banana.
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	Also, we have this coming in.
	I guess for the Octavius donated $200.
	Kill it, Dop.
	My sprinkler goes like this.
	You don't slay, honestly.
	Okay.
	It's really cool.
	I know.
	It's breezy.
	It was in the refrigerator.
	That's why it looks like this.
	All right.
	Thank you guys.
	Appreciate it.
	That's probably why it was definitely in the refrigerator.
	Okay.
	Name, age, location, occupation, starting with you.
	Hi, my name is Lucy.
	I'm 21.
	I'm from LA and I work as a waitress.
	All right.
	Any school?
	Yeah, I go to the city college.
	Studying what?
	Architecture and interior design.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm Mizzy.
	I'm 29.
	I just started streaming because I got off of a reality show.
	And I live in Hollywood, California.
	You're in Shark Tank, right?
	Fish tank.
	Fish tank.
	Sorry, no, shark tank.
	Fish tank.
	That's the same high choke.
	Yeah, I feel like I'm at home with a TTS right now.
	Yeah.
	Any school?
	I went to school for criminal justice.
	You got it.
	Got a bachelor's in that.
	Bachelor's in criminal justice?
	Yeah.
	Okay, got it.
	What about you?
	Hello, I'm Ruby.
	I'm 20, and I work at a local car dealership, and I'm from Tennessee.
	All right, 20.
	School?
	No.
	I graduated two, almost three years ago.
	From high school?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And three year college.
	You live in Tennessee?
	Yes.
	Okay, Nashville?
	Yeah.
	Got it.
	All right.
	Mandy?
	Well, I'm Mandy.
	I'm 20.
	I live in Northern California and I'm currently unemployed.
	This is my job right now.
	Age?
	Sorry, I missed that.
	20.
	20.
	School?
	I'm not in school right now.
	Any college?
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name's Kenna, and I'm 19.
	I do OF and I dropped out of college last year.
	Sorry, your name is Ken?
	You said Kenna.
	Kenna, huh?
	Okay.
	And what's the nature of the content that you do on OnlyFans?
	I like sell my nudes.
	Is it like boy girl, solo content?
	Yeah, both.
	All right, gotcha.
	Any college completed?
	No.
	No.
	Do you want to go to college?
	No.
	Okay.
	Do you do OF too?
	No, I don't.
	You guys are friends though, correct?
	We are.
	How do you guys?
	What's your question?
	I'm trying to like recruit her to do OF with me, but he like just does not like want to.
	That's a conversation.
	Stop it.
	Get some help.
	All right.
	And you're you in Tennessee too?
	Yeah, I'm in Nashville with her.
	Got it.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'm L Barbie.
	Oh my gosh, sorry.
	I am 23.
	I'm from Chicago.
	And my occupation is I'm like a social media manager and activities aide.
	And I am a college dropout, so don't ask me.
	My degree.
	You got associates or just dropped out before?
	I dropped out in like 2020 during COVID.
	I couldn't do college for COVID.
	It was too much.
	Sorry.
	Okay.
	My name is Naomi.
	I'm 18.
	I do OnlyFans and I go to veterinarian school.
	Where are you from?
	San Diego.
	San Diego, okay.
	And you're.
	How long have you been 18?
	Since February.
	When did you start doing OnlyFans?
	Since February. So. Home. So birthday.
	On my birthday, I made it.
	You made it yikes.
	Earth.
	Yeah.
	And okay.
	What's the nature of the content that you do on the OnlyFans?
	Everything.
	Boy, girl?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Girl, All right.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Riley.
	Wait, what was the question?
	Name, age, occupation, location?
	Okay, my name is Riley.
	I'm 18.
	I do solo on Oleph, and I go to San Diego City College, and I'm majoring in psychology.
	And you're from San Diego?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Yeah, my name is Andrew Wilson.
	I'm the host of the Crucible Popular Entertainment Channel on YouTube.
	I'm a political analyst, political satirist.
	I enjoy having conversations like this all over the world.
	It's a lot of fun to do.
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	Do appreciate it.
	My name is Brian Atlas, 35 YouTuber, host of the whatever podcast, owner of the whatever podcast.
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	Santa Barbara, location, Santa Barbara, California.
	Going around the table once more.
	What is everybody's current relationship status?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Go ahead.
	I'm currently single, and the longest relationship I had is like eight months.
	And you were on the show about a month, two months ago?
	Yeah.
	Were you in a relationship then or single then?
	No, I was single then.
	Okay.
	And you said longest relationship, eight months?
	Yeah.
	How long have you been single for?
	A year.
	One year.
	Pretty much.
	Yeah, a year and a month.
	The eight-month relationship is that the one that ended a year ago?
	No, that was one prior.
	Okay.
	The eight-month relationship, who broke up with who?
	We went over this.
	I feel like we went over this already.
	Okay, for new, I was broken up with.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And then most recent relationship, who broke up with who?
	I did the breaking up, but it was time.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	My longest relationship is five years, and my last relationship was in May.
	So about like six months ago, seven months ago?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	The five-year relationship, was that the one that ended seven months ago?
	No.
	That was like ended a long time ago.
	Okay.
	Most recent relationship, who broke up with who?
	I broke up with him.
	Five-year relationship?
	Who broke up with who?
	I broke up with him.
	Okay.
	Why?
	He deserved better.
	I think at that time, like, I didn't know who I was.
	I was very young, and I realized that he deserved someone that loved him for truly for who he was.
	And I just knew that wasn't me.
	And I also deserved to be with someone who, you know, reciprocated that as well.
	Okay.
	And then also, really quick, just on the champagne here.
	Do you want champagne?
	Yeah.
	Champagne?
	Yes.
	Champagne?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Singing yellow bananas.
	Let's get to it talking.
	What about you?
	My longest relationship was maybe half a year.
	This was in fifth grade.
	And then my last relationship was the end of my senior year for less than a month.
	Did they break up with you because of the years?
	Was it because of the years?
	Yes.
	Yeah, he would be like, and I'd be like.
	No, it was just a silly little high school thing.
	And I was graduating, so.
	So wait, your last serious relationship was in fifth grade?
	Well that was like I've had two serious quote-unquote relationships where it's been official and it was fifth grade and then the end of my high school year.
	Okay.
	So you've been single for how long?
	Um I guess that'd be like three years.
	Three years you said?
	Yeah, since I graduated.
	Longest relationship?
	My longest was my six-month one in fifth grade.
	I see.
	So you've been single for three years since you're 20 now, since you were 18, 17?
	Yeah, I think it was.
	There's no guys in the picture whatsoever?
	I've had like a lot of talking and friends with benefits, but never anything official.
	Okay.
	Is there currently a guy in the picture?
	Yeah, I'm talking to this guy.
	How long have you been talking to this guy?
	Wait, which guy?
	This guy?
	Wait, yeah.
	We've been talking since the beginning of October.
	It's like two months.
	Yeah.
	Two months.
	Okay.
	Are you guys exclusive?
	We haven't really talked about that, but I assume we are.
	I've stayed like...
	You're exclusive then.
	I think he is too.
	I don't really exactly know, to be honest, but I'm okay either way.
	I'm not really super like judgy or anything because we haven't put a title, so I'm not going to expect anything.
	Do you want a title?
	Maybe in the future.
	I think about it.
	So you're not that into him then?
	I'm not really wanting to settle down until I'm like 30.
	I don't date to marry.
	You date for what then?
	For fun and experience, however life is.
	Whatever comes my way.
	Whatever comes my way.
	Whatever comes my way, I just sort of deal with it.
	I used to move around a lot, and so I never felt like I could have like a stable relationship with that.
	Is your dad in the military?
	No.
	He actually lives in New York, and then my mom lives in Kentucky.
	So you said you don't want to settle down until you're 30?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So are you polyamorous or you like dating or sleeping with multiple people at the same time?
	Sure.
	Yeah, I have fun with that.
	Yeah, so are you seeing other men besides this guy?
	No.
	Okay.
	Just him.
	Have you had periods, though, where you've had a roster dating multiple men?
	I guess so, really.
	Nothing was ever too serious whenever it was going on.
	And I always established from the get-go my expectations.
	And like, I'm not really expecting a full-blown relationship.
	This is how I view dating.
	Okay.
	What were your expectations?
	Just to hang out and have fun.
	Okay.
	So you'll straight up tell them that you're not looking for anything serious?
	Yeah.
	Because I feel like it's really important to do that.
	I've talked with men before and met up and they are really expecting something super serious or they got out of a serious relationship and so I'm always like, oh, like what's the sort of context around this to see how it would work out.
	And with me having my own views on wanting to settle more in my 30s, I always let them know that.
	Okay.
	Before we get into the next person, we do have to do a cheers.
	This is for cheers to yellow banana, or in this case, slightly browning banana.
	Cheers to oh, you have to finish the banana though.
	I have to finish it.
	Well, you're gonna cheers the banana.
	You have to cheers the banana.
	You have to bite of the banana in one bite.
	That's good promotion.
	Salu.
	Cheers.
	I just won't the mic.
	I'm sorry, guys.
	It's all good.
	Thank you, yellow banana.
	I do appreciate it.
	Your relationship status.
	I currently have a boyfriend.
	We've been together two years and like five months, I want to say.
	Six months or four months?
	Two years?
	Four months.
	That's my longest relationship.
	All right.
	Longest relationship.
	How did you guys meet?
	We went over this on the last podcast.
	I met him on Grindr.
	Yeah, so just Grinder.
	You met him on Grindr.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Isn't that for gay dudes?
	Yes, it's for gay dudes.
	Okay.
	That's what I was doing.
	How did you meet him on Grindr?
	I was banned from the other dating.
	Watch.
	So you went to Grindr to try to pick up gay guys?
	I was in a dark place, okay, Andrew?
	Excuse me?
	That's wild.
	So he's gay.
	He's bi, but yeah.
	He was definitely on there for men.
	Wait, do you do butt stuff with him?
	Yes.
	But like to him.
	Yes.
	Oh man.
	Spicy.
	Watch.
	Does he prefer?
	He prefers it?
	Is he a both of them?
	So you top him?
	He's like verse, but like, yeah, sometimes I do.
	Oh, he's what?
	He's Switch?
	Verse, yeah, like a Switch, yeah.
	Verse.
	I've never heard of it.
	Yeah.
	It's like the same thing as a Switch.
	Okay, so tell me when to stop on how big the strap is.
	So you peg your pieces.
	You peg your gay boyfriend?
	Yeah.
	And she looks like she has a great time doing it, too.
	Do I look unhappy now?
	No.
	You're thriving.
	Facts.
	Slay queen.
	That's cool.
	So you guys, who messaged you first on Grinder?
	So this is actually a funny story because he messaged me first, but there's like this thing called a super like, and he super liked me, but he told me later that that was an accident and he thought that I was a catfish.
	And so I messaged him back and he asked me for a picture of myself.
	So I sent him like a live photo of myself and he realized that I was like a real person.
	So we met up and for like, you know, we were kind of just friends for a while.
	It was like gay besties kind of vibes.
	And then like as it progressed, like we like were just like into each other and just kind of worked out.
	So.
	Does he sleep with other men now?
	No.
	No.
	You guys are monogamous?
	Yeah.
	Well, sometimes I sleep with girls.
	Like as a threesome or separately from him?
	Separately.
	Okay.
	So it's one-ended open.
	Yes.
	I know how that sounds.
	But you only sleep with one.
	Like you don't sleep with other men.
	No.
	Just other women.
	Yeah.
	And you've been with him for two and a half years?
	Yeah.
	How many women have you smashed in that period?
	Two or three.
	Two or three.
	You had something?
	Is he allowed to have sex with other women?
	No.
	No.
	So just you.
	Walking like a dog.
	I told him if he wasn't okay with me doing that, that that was fine with me and that like we didn't have to do any of that stuff.
	But he was like, no, like go have fun.
	Like do whatever.
	And I'm like, okay.
	Did you like let him fuck another person?
	To be honest, I mean, to be fair and charitable to you.
	Yeah.
	She actually had a good question.
	She asked if I would let him have sex with other men.
	And this is where it's kind of conflicting for me because I've considered like I want to be able to like let him do that because like obviously like I don't think that he would like you know go off and you know live somewhere else with him.
	But I don't know.
	I think that I don't know.
	I get mixed up about it because I have like bad feelings about it.
	I shouldn't have bad feelings about it because it's just sex, but I don't know.
	I mean to be charitable to your position though, like I wouldn't have high standards for a dude who got pegged with a seven-inch dil, right?
	Like it's not like going to be super high standards here.
	Yeah, yeah, fair.
	How did you get banned from all the other dating apps?
	It's crazy.
	Okay, listen.
	I shouldn't.
	That's something for another time.
	We'll talk about that off camera.
	Were you going on them underage?
	Yes.
	That's what I fear.
	Yeah, definitely.
	But I didn't meet him when I was underage.
	Yeah.
	Wait, did he think you were like gay, like a man or something?
	So he told me that he thought I was either a catfish or like trans or something.
	And so he was like not sure.
	So he wanted to meet up with me to like see what the situation was, I guess.
	Was he like so?
	He going in, he was like, this person could have a penis or a vagina.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Nice.
	Nice.
	Can I ask?
	Was he like question?
	When the first time you guys hooked up, did he sigh when there wasn't a penis?
	Was there a sigh?
	I can't say that there was.
	Was he disappointed?
	Probably.
	I don't know where you go from there, bro.
	I don't know where you go from there.
	I think we end the show.
	Hey, guys.
	It was a good show.
	Good night.
	How would you rate the pegging?
	Like, does he enjoy it as much?
	Oh, he didn't.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the G-spot is in the booty hole.
	Good lord, there's so much degeneracy on this panel right now.
	So bad.
	Just for you, Andrew, I curated.
	You guys invited me back.
	This is fourth.
	But so that was that wasn't upsetting, though.
	Isn't that a little upsetting?
	That like he, it sounds like you said he was disappointed that you had a vagina.
	Would that?
	I feel like that'd be kind of disappointing.
	Well, I mean, I don't know if it was disappointing.
	He was just like, oh.
	Well, yeah, because he's like, maybe there's a surprise under there.
	And he's like, fuck nothing.
	You know?
	So, I mean, I don't know.
	I can't.
	I wasn't in his mind at the time.
	I don't know.
	All right.
	Well, I mean, it worked out fine.
	It may, though, despite all this, aside from you, Andrew, she may very well be the woman with the longest standing relationship on the panel.
	So we actually have a relationship status.
	Wait, how long were you having been with him?
	Two and a half.
	Yeah, like two months.
	Two and a half.
	What about you?
	Oh, I'm recently single.
	For how long?
	Like a month, probably.
	Longest relationship?
	Oh, it was like a year.
	It's like this past one.
	Wait, is that the one that ended a month ago?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And you've been single for a month?
	Have you been celibate for a month?
	No.
	No, I'm still getting with him.
	Well, because he's my partner.
	So I can't really not, you know?
	Your partner, how?
	He's my OnlyFans partner.
	So he's the guy you do content with?
	Yeah.
	You don't do content with other guys?
	No.
	Well, like, until I find someone else.
	He's the guy.
	So even if you were hooking up with this guy through OnlyFans for the content, what would actually prevent you from going out and getting another guy?
	Well, like, I'm heartbroken right now.
	Like, we just broke up a month ago.
	So I'm not going to help you that much.
	So are you still hooking up with him outside of the OF content?
	No, like, he just comes over for strictly content.
	Like, we don't hang out or anything.
	Put him to work.
	Do you think he ever has feelings?
	Like, maybe.
	No, no, no.
	He's like really mean to me.
	You can ask her.
	That's what I'm saying.
	But he's so nice at the same time.
	Because he still comes over to help me.
	So it's like, I don't know, you know?
	It's an ongoing dynamic that should have ended like so long ago.
	But he like helped me make money.
	So it's okay.
	And I offer to pay him.
	He's my age.
	Well, he's 20.
	20?
	Okay.
	Did you split the money with him?
	No.
	So he just has sex.
	Yeah, I mean, I feel like that's a good enough reward.
	Yeah.
	She would get him gifts.
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	So that's your longest relationship.
	It ended.
	Were you guys living together?
	Yeah.
	Still living together?
	No?
	No.
	So this is kind of like, how do you move on?
	Well, I'm like planning to move probably to like a new state.
	So then I'll just find someone.
	And then I'll have like, yeah.
	It would be great.
	All right.
	Okay.
	You know, find someone else to give you a reward.
	Why?
	Yeah.
	Why did you guys break up?
	I'm not sure, honestly.
	Well, who broke up with who?
	Oh, he broke up with me.
	Why?
	For a what?
	I like, I don't really know how it happened.
	Like, we were going like for a drive and then we got back to my house and I wanted him to talk to me and he didn't talk to me.
	So like I wouldn't let him like in my apartment.
	So like he broke into my apartment.
	So then he like broke my side mirror off my car.
	I thought you guys were living together though.
	We were, but like it's my apartment.
	Like I paid.
	So you were living together but he broke in.
	Yes.
	The place he lives.
	It wasn't his place though.
	It was like my place.
	He like lived with me.
	That's the thing.
	Did he have his own place?
	I mean he had his mom's place I guess.
	But he was how long had he been living with you?
	Like for a few months.
	So he definitely lived there.
	Yeah he was a tenant.
	No he wasn't because I was the only one on the lease.
	He wasn't on the lease.
	Okay well he didn't have a chance.
	Can I ask you a question?
	When he broke in, did he later tell you I didn't break in because I live here?
	Did he say that?
	Did those words ever come out of his mouth?
	No.
	No.
	He didn't say anything.
	He was just really mad.
	Oh.
	Yeah, technically he was a tenant.
	He was not a tenant.
	He was definitely a tenant.
	He was even a tenant.
	If you knew he was not a tenant, you guys are waiting for the money.
	Just because his name's not.
	We're not in California guys.
	If he lives there, he's technically a tenant.
	You have to give him a 30-day notice girl.
	Yeah, he's like, it's complicated, I promise you.
	He was not, like, I'm technically not even on it.
	What?
	Yeah, but you're a tenant, right?
	No, I mean, it's complicated.
	And how is it your apartment?
	Okay, you guys, because like, I am.
	You're not a tenant in your apartment that's yours that he broke into even though it was yours.
	Yeah.
	So like, I like, I just kind of live.
	I'm like, I live there for free.
	Because I'm not like squatting there.
	Like, because like.
	Is there a lease?
	Yeah, but just like not through me.
	Like I'm like in foster care, so like the state pays for it.
	So he was like staying with me.
	So like that's not his place.
	So that's why I was like you broke.
	So you're in foster care, you're 18.
	Yeah, but like you can like recommend.
	You're 20 or no, you're 19, right?
	Yeah.
	19.
	And you're still getting paid for by the foster system.
	not paying for anything really they're just like accept your place yeah Yeah.
	Yeah, they give me a helping hand.
	For all the trauma I've been through, like my whole life.
	This was like my reward.
	And the state knows that you do OF work?
	I mean, like, they know how much money I have.
	I tell them.
	But they don't know that you do OF work.
	No, I see you.
	What do you call your taxes?
	I say content creator.
	Like, own business.
	Well, I haven't done taxes yet.
	Wait, okay, a couple questions to clarify.
	You were...
	So wait, so my tax dollars...
	Wait, what?
	What?
	Well, you were living at this house for how long you've been living at the house?
	Like, um, like since the summer.
	Like, after the summer, I guess.
	Like, August.
	Because I could see some sort of situation where you were in foster care and there's some, like, you're remaining at the place of residence from the point of, like, 17, 18, and you're remaining there.
	And perhaps it extends beyond the age of 18, but that's kind of.
	It's like the state, I guess, like, kind of thing.
	like i guess it's different from state to state well i when i turn 21 that's when i'm like that's when you I'm free, yeah.
	Okay.
	You said because of your trauma.
	So is this like some sort of SSI type thing?
	What's that?
	Like some type, but no, nothing like that.
	Nothing, nothing like that.
	No.
	I know exactly where you are.
	And so.
	Wait, so I have no idea how this works.
	How does this work?
	So, okay, you're in foster care.
	Yeah.
	So are you like, were you orphaned or what's so like my parents, like I ran away from my parents, and like that happened.
	So they put me in a foster house with my foster parents.
	And they're great.
	Like I love them so much.
	And like you can like recommit to the state and they'll like help you out.
	They'll like give you money every month.
	They give you a place to stay.
	What does recommit to the state mean?
	Like, I don't know.
	If you can't like afford your own like living, they'll help you.
	They'll reinstate you as like their.
	They also pay for your college too.
	Yeah.
	Wait, so at what age did you run away from your parents' house?
	Like 16.
	Why?
	Oh, because they were like not good parents.
	Like we just like didn't go like, you know?
	Was there like abuse or they just told you no?
	Oh, well, like my like brother used to like molest me.
	Yeah, there was that.
	But your parents themselves.
	No, they didn't do anything.
	But that was like you just didn't like them.
	Well, me and my mom like clashed.
	Like, you know?
	You know, like two people just like don't aren't good together?
	That was me and my mom.
	Like, and me and my ex.
	And they let you go into foster care?
	Your parents?
	Yeah, they didn't like me either.
	Like, they were toxic too.
	Okay.
	Wait, your parents didn't like you?
	No, I mean, my dad liked me.
	But my mom, you know, like, the moms are always, like, the head of the household.
	So my mom was like.
	Wait, what?
	What?
	What?
	No!
	Well, my mom was at least.
	Wait, that's the problem.
	When you say, like, it was both your biological parents, right?
	No, no, no.
	I'm adopted.
	Okay, so.
	So they adopted me.
	You were adopted at a young age.
	Yeah, I was adopted when I was like a baby.
	By these parents, and then I ran away from those parents.
	I see.
	Okay.
	Where you were adopted from China.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	You're not in touch, I'm assuming, with your biological parents or someone.
	Yeah.
	And then, okay, so your adopted parents ran away from them.
	And then you had foster, a different set of foster parents, is that correct?
	Or well, you had your adoptive parents, and then you have your foster parents.
	Yeah, but like.
	And you like your foster parents, is that correct?
	Okay.
	But and you lived with them for two years.
	Yeah.
	But now you're on your own.
	Yeah, but I still go back for like holidays and everything.
	I see.
	Okay.
	All right.
	With your biological parents.
	No, my foster parents.
	With your foster parents.
	Yeah.
	You don't talk to your bio.
	I'm sorry, your adopted parents.
	You don't talk to them.
	I don't talk to them.
	No.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Oh, so I am married.
	I have been with my partner for two years.
	I think a little under than you.
	Two years and four months.
	We celebrated.
	And what else?
	What was the question?
	Well, congratulations.
	Oh, thank you.
	Longest relationship.
	So this is my second relationship, and this is my longest relationship.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Wait, can we see the ring?
	Oh, my goodness, I have to get it resized.
	Like, I'm wearing like my other.
	Oh, the band.
	Yeah, I'm wearing the band, and I put it here because it's too big.
	So I have to get it resized, unfortunately.
	I have small hands.
	Not small hands.
	Okay.
	Still cute, though.
	What about you?
	Technically single.
	What is technically?
	Like, I date everybody.
	So, like, not everybody, but you know, like, you have, you know, like.
	How many guys do you have in the picture right now?
	Four.
	Okay.
	You're sleeping with all of them?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And you've been technically single for how long?
	Since I was like in middle school, I guess, like, so- Okay, you never had a boyfriend?
	No, I have.
	I have.
	I just, like, I don't say they're real, like, relationships because I always cheat, you know?
	So it's, like, I don't really, like, they're not committed.
	I'm not a committed person.
	I don't know.
	This looks really bad.
	I'm just not a committed person, and I don't really take relationships seriously, you know?
	I have a question.
	Yeah.
	As someone who also doesn't take relationships seriously, but like talked about establishing that with them, like, do you communicate that?
	Or, okay, yeah, yeah.
	I could, I, like, say that I cheated.
	Most of them, like, you know, cry, or some of them stay.
	It just.
	But you say that only after?
	Huh?
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	Kaiser.
	Always happy to see you.
	Glad to see my girl Lucy back on the show.
	She's a lesbian that talks non-stop.
	Or as I call them, a chatterbox.
	She's bisexual, I'm pretty sure, right?
	Yeah.
	Not a lesbian.
	Yeah, but I am a chatterbox.
	Not today, though.
	Yeah, I'm bisexual.
	They haven't gotten me drunk yet.
	What was your question?
	What was your question for her?
	But do you only tell them after?
	Because the way you're talking about this, you sound like you don't establish it from the get-go, but then later cheat and then say, I cheated.
	And then they like cry and then they're heartbroken or they're like, whatever.
	But my thing is, like, if you don't ask me to be your girlfriend, you know, like, then we're not together, you know?
	So, like, I will tell them, like, I am sleeping around, like, you know, I'm with other people, but sometimes, like, they don't take it, like, take me seriously because, like, I'll hang out with them, like, you know, like more, like, every day and, like, stuff like that, like, go stay at their house and stuff like that.
	But then, like, when it comes down to, like, when I'm not with them, like, I go do other things, and then that's why they get, like, sad and stuff.
	But I always tell them, like, you didn't ask me to be your girlfriend.
	Wasn't established, so therefore, you know, I can do whatever I want, you know?
	Right.
	All right.
	Uh, you're, I mean, longest relationship, um, like six months.
	Six months, okay.
	All right, did you cheat on that one too?
	Yeah, after six months, though.
	What's the longest or what's the biggest your roster has ever been?
	Um, at one time, I did have like eight people that I was talking to, but it was so tragic.
	Like, never in my life would I do that again.
	That sounds like a lot of work.
	It was so much worse.
	It was so much worse.
	It sounds like a full-time job.
	Really?
	I mean, for you.
	And then it was like, it was like three of them were my sugar daddies.
	So it was like really annoying, too, because you know they have, they like attention.
	It was annoying they were giving you money.
	They need attention so bad.
	Wait, you were 18 at this time?
	Yeah.
	And those needy fuckers.
	Wait, so eight?
	Wanting love and attention.
	Yeah, I'm calculating for the bath right now.
	You were sleeping with all eight of them?
	No.
	Only the sugar daddies.
	It was like talking stages more so, like, oh, no, actually, I was sleeping with like two of two other ones, too.
	So the three sugar daddies and then two other guys?
	So five?
	Five, yeah.
	Girl, are you okay?
	Please get checked.
	I do, guys.
	I just had one on Wednesday.
	Yeah.
	What was the results?
	I'm clean.
	And they know you're active with like other people.
	Are you okay with it?
	Yeah.
	And I constantly get tested like every two weeks.
	Oh, like.
	Wait, are you in like the traditional corn industry?
	No.
	No?
	No.
	Okay.
	But if you have these guys who are, quote, sugar daddies, are you exchanging sex for money?
	No.
	A lot of them, like, they just like like someone to talk to and like, you know, text, call whenever they want, like, take you to dinner, buy you stuff.
	And you fill that role and also have sex with them, right?
	Some of them, yeah.
	And they give you money?
	Yeah.
	Do you ever feel bad about it?
	There is a word for that, but we'll just leave it there.
	Not too much.
	Do you ever feel like bad about like, because like, I feel like a lot of these are just like really sad old men that like never got like a real relationship.
	So they're just paying to have a relationship.
	Sometimes I do feel bad, but then I find out they have a wife.
	Oh.
	So like, yeah.
	But some of them I do feel bad for.
	Like, um.
	Isn't that worse?
	I was just like everyone has like their own, like, they just, their own decisions.
	If they want to do it, they do it.
	Like, if anything, I feel like that's more sad because it's like you have a wife and you can't even like what?
	I just don't feel bad because it's like you should know like that you're not anything now.
	Like, come on, you just literally cheated on your wife.
	That's like.
	But what about the ones that didn't cheat on their wives?
	What about the ones that are like just?
	See, them I do feel bad for.
	Like, they're sad.
	I mean, they talk, they talk, like, I try to keep them as much company as I can.
	You know, I talk to them and stuff like that.
	I ask them about their day.
	Like, I'll even go like hang out with them, go to like lunch and dinners and stuff.
	But it benefits you, so that's why you're doing it, right?
	Yeah.
	For the moment.
	He's happy.
	Like, he's paying for it.
	So he's obviously happy.
	Do you cut them off after you find out that they were married?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	How do you find these men?
	And what's the oldest one been?
	Ooh, that's a good question.
	So I used seeking arrangements.
	Oh, yeah.
	And like other ones, too.
	I think the oldest one I've been with is like 70.
	Yeah.
	Did you always anticipate this?
	Wait, 70?
	Did you sleep with the 70-year-old?
	With the 70-year-old dog.
	Hold on.
	Not too much of my girl right now.
	Oh, yeah, no, you're good.
	Did you anticipate this lifestyle for yourself when you were younger and growing up?
	Yeah, actually.
	I always knew, like, I don't know, I just always knew like I was just going to use the fact that I'm a girl to get one.
	As you should, come on now.
	I always do that.
	And then, like, also, it's super in like an easy way because I'm not going to lie.
	I can be a lazy person.
	Like, I don't like working, you know?
	So it's just easy.
	And then I want to go to school.
	You're still lazy.
	So I can go to school.
	Yeah.
	You say you're lazy, so you just let guys buy you shit and you have sex with them, essentially.
	Is that pretty?
	Is that a good summary?
	Like, did I summarize that incorrectly?
	Yeah.
	And guys, I don't think guys can pull that out.
	If they got money.
	I feel like young gay men can.
	Like a young gay man could.
	Yeah, but she's straight, so who cares?
	Yeah.
	You said you want to go to school, though.
	Are you very good about saving your money that you're making?
	Or are you impulsive?
	I'm an impulsive spender.
	Yeah.
	I just like to buy stuff.
	Anything, really.
	What's your favorite purchase you've made?
	I don't know.
	Honestly.
	I'd just be buying stuff.
	Are you happy?
	Very happy, yeah.
	Honestly, I love your attitude.
	Come on, y'all gonna know my girl.
	You love, what about her attitude?
	Do you love her?
	She just doesn't care that people might judge.
	I think it's cool.
	Yeah.
	Just be completely void of all morality and emotion of anything.
	Those men don't, like, just walk and fall onto seeking arrangements.
	Like, they go on their own.
	They go there for the...
	Oh.
	And I never asked for the money.
	It's always like, I will pay you this, that, and that if you do that.
	And I just say yes.
	Well, I feel like you're on seeking, so it's kind of established that you're already on there for money.
	So I feel like that's.
	So do you never want a husband or kids or anything?
	I do.
	One day, like, like she said, like, probably in my 30s, I'll probably settle down.
	Metro Matt Donetsk.
	Thank you, Metro Matt.
	Appreciate it, man.
	This panel is so chill.
	Crayola stop went up.
	Not a father in sight, and none of them know they're us from their elbow.
	What animal comic-com did you find them?
	Then you have to stop subbing to other.
	Yes.
	San Diego Comic-Con, certainly.
	Actually, going around the table on this, thank you, Metro Matt.
	Are you guys, what's your relationship like with your father, starting with you?
	I have a fantastic relationship with my dad.
	Perfect.
	It's good now.
	Okay.
	Which implies that it wasn't always good.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	We check in sometimes.
	When's the last time you talked to him?
	Two weeks before Thanksgiving, he visited us.
	Wait, were you also in the foster system?
	No, no.
	Okay.
	Your parents still together?
	No.
	Separated?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I'm adopted.
	Also adopted.
	Ethnicity is Chinese.
	And my mom is in Kentucky, and my dad is in New York, and he had visited us.
	But I don't tend to go to New York too often.
	I don't tend to travel often.
	Los Angeles is fun.
	Wait, when you say when you were adopted, were your adoptive parents together at the time?
	Yes.
	I was adopted at 11 months old and they flew to China and got me.
	And then in my sixth grade year is when they divorced.
	Who divorced who?
	Mutual.
	Who's mutual?
	Who wanted it more though?
	I think my mom.
	Yeah.
	So they got a divorce and then she got custody?
	No.
	She got remarried a year after.
	And during this time, she had still sort of lived with us, but more in the downstairs level, like three-tiered house.
	And so my grandma really had the downstairs.
	And she's on my mom's end.
	And so my mom stayed with her.
	And then she got remarried, moved to Kentucky with her husband.
	and then she moved back to Nashville, and then...
	Well, where was Dad and you in all this?
	He...
	He was in our same house that we had been in for basically my whole life until I graduated.
	And then a few more years after that, he got remarried.
	And then both of them were kind of absent.
	And my grandparents were like there, but also not.
	But at this point, we were all pretty much self-sufficient.
	I have four siblings.
	And I'm the youngest.
	So we were all pretty self-sufficient by then.
	What about you?
	I have a great relationship with my dad.
	If anything, it's my mom you should be worried about.
	Oh, also, parents still together?
	Yeah.
	No.
	Yes.
	Oh, yeah.
	And we already talked about that.
	Yeah, we already talked about it.
	What about you?
	I have two dads and two moms.
	And my relationship with my parents is very, like, weird because I'm a very distant person.
	Like, I isolate myself.
	So I would say that I have a good relationship with my parents, but not really, because I don't really check up on them.
	They don't check up on me.
	Relationship with dad?
	Are your parents still together?
	With my dad, like, I don't, I know him.
	And he was around when I grew up.
	Well, he was in jail when I was born.
	And for like a year in the first beginning.
	But then he was around all the time.
	And I love him.
	And then he just disappeared off the face of the earth.
	I don't know where he's at right now.
	He went to go get a pack of smokes.
	With that type of people.
	Well, actually, my mom threw him down the stairs and he never came back.
	So, yeah.
	And they're not together.
	I think that's a valid reason.
	But funny thing, it's so funny because they had me to get married and never got married.
	They were never really, like, together, like, married.
	It was just...
	Hell of a plan to have a kid in order to get married.
	Yeah.
	What's happening right now?
	The last time I saw my dad was like four years ago.
	Okay.
	Relationship status, we didn't get yours.
	My relationship status, I'm single.
	My longest relationship was literally three months and I ended that in June.
	So you've been single for six months about?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	You ended it.
	Why did you end it?
	I was his first ever girlfriend.
	And like, I wasn't, like, I didn't want to be his everything, like, his first everything.
	So I was like, and I felt like I was self-sabotaging a lot.
	And I felt like I had to be perfect for him.
	So I was just like.
	What do you mean, perfect?
	Like, I felt like I couldn't mess up.
	Like, I had to do everything right.
	And because like what kind of thing?
	So I had like an ex-talking stage that like I was So I he was kind of like I guess I just picked up bad habits and I just I don't know There's a lot I feel like you haven't told me anything here He's like being so minimalistic right now Like what is bad So what what like what's what types of specific things do you feel like like I don't I don't know I don't know It's okay girl.
	I just felt like I had to do everything right.
	I don't know like I just like what kinds of things though Like treat him obviously right and not mess up.
	I don't know, like I. Like what does that entail?
	Like he didn't he wanted you to dress a certain way or no?
	This is gonna sound bad, but there was just a lot of reasons why I kind of broke up with it.
	Another one was, like cuz Hiloki was like his mom, like he, he was like a mama's boy and like she would pay for everything when we go out together.
	Like her credit card was his and he didn't drive, he didn't work, and I was just like I felt like nothing.
	But he didn't say that you broke up with him because he didn't drive and he didn't.
	No, there was just a little.
	He said he broke up with him because he had the expectation of misperfection and I'm just wondering what that looks like.
	Like his mom no no, me and his mom like I loved her, but like he would.
	Oh, there's just girls.
	Fill the.
	Don't, let anything hold hold, don't hold anything back.
	He's your ex.
	Now you can say whatever.
	Yeah, I know, but I still have feelings for him.
	The plot thickens.
	Yeah, you still have feelings for this guy who you dump because he wanted you to be better, who ain't shit okay.
	So I was his first ever girlfriend like, I guess people, I don't know, people say that I'm toxic and I'm like I would always go through, like I would check his phone a lot and I felt like I don't, were you insecure, like checking through his phones and everything like that not insecure I, I guess I feel like I always would want to find something and I would never find anything.
	And then, because he put you like on this, like pedestal right, I don't know, do you think you put him on a pedestal?
	My last relationships, like they basically cheated on me and yeah, and so I would just like I felt like I wasn't, I guess, good enough because I was always getting cheated on and you were just kind of waiting for something.
	This guy didn't cheat on you, right?
	No, he didn't cheat on me.
	Did you feel like, because you were like his first girlfriend and because he was inexperienced, that he would like want to go out and like do stuff with other girls or something, and so you no, I don't like okay, because I don't like to be someone's first everything, because I don't know how to like tell a like, I don't know.
	Like it's not about sugar, I control that and I didn't.
	Honestly, I didn't want to end up pregnant and I didn't.
	I don't know, I don't like inexperienced, like use condom.
	No, we didn't even do anything, and it was more like a friendship than a relationship too, because we didn't kiss within those three months.
	We didn't even do anything.
	Why did you bring up pregnancy then?
	Because when I think of a relationship, like when I'm going into a relationship, I think of ha, like marrying, and like I think of also having kids in my future.
	That's okay.
	I came into this conversation confused, and I'm leading this conversation.
	Okay, we have a chat.
	Yeah, we have a chat here from Brooks J Lucy Goosey.
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	Make your story about them.
	Gives them the ick.
	One panelist talks to another.
	Laugh without a punchline.
	Fixes their hair.
	Oh, wait, is this about me?
	Says she's a 10.
	Oh, boy, this is about to be rough.
	Where's the rest?
	Oh, oh, or was it just dot dot?
	Thank you, Brooks J, for the super chat.
	I do appreciate it.
	Guys, if you want $200 for a TTS, $100 to read, we typically curate those at a later time during the show.
	We're going to get into our first reaction here, so why don't we do...
	Actually, let's do one of the panelists has a boyfriend application.
	We're going to review that.
	It's Kenna.
	Yes, it's me.
	Let's look at her boyfriend's application.
	All right, make it bigger for me.
	Make it bigger.
	Bigger.
	All right, this is her boyfriend application looking for a new lover boy.
	So you want to, where are you from?
	I wrote, I was going to fill it out.
	So you want the Instagram.
	How old are you?
	How tall?
	Why is it, why is it a two, there's 5'0, the 5'10?
	What?
	So is it like, so is it if they are shorter than 5'10?
	It's disqualified.
	No, it's not disqualified.
	I'll just like look at you like last.
	I see.
	Okay.
	What kind of job do you have?
	Do you like cats?
	Do you have cats?
	Multiple plural?
	Yeah, I have two cats.
	Two cats, okay.
	Two sons.
	What would you rate yourself on a scale of one to ten?
	There's that, okay.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Hang on, back up, back up.
	It says, what is your favorite kind of car?
	Yes.
	Can you name us that one?
	Okay, can you name four different kinds of cars?
	Yeah.
	Okay, Ford Escort, Hyundai Genesis, Hyundai Genesis Coop.
	No, it was a different game.
	Here's a different one.
	Honda Accord and a Prius.
	Are you dating anybody who drives a Honda Accord?
	No.
	No, of course not.
	Okay.
	All right, back to it.
	Scroll down.
	What is your favorite thing to do in your free time?
	Do you go to the gym?
	Yes, no, sometimes.
	Where do you see yourself in 10 years?
	Yeah.
	Where do you see yourself in 10 years?
	Living on a beach in Florida.
	All right.
	Do you invest your money?
	Tell me a joke.
	Ad pic if you like.
	Okay, that's great.
	It wasn't too bad.
	The boyfriend.
	Can you tell us a joke?
	No.
	No.
	That is interesting.
	Do you guys think it's fair that women demand things from men, like traits that they don't possess themselves?
	Can you elaborate on that question?
	Well, like, for example, right?
	This tends to come off typically later parts of the show, but if we're talking about like body count, women have like massive objections to, like, for example, a man who has a high body count stating quite emphatically that he prefers women with a low body count or virgins.
	You guys think, well, that's not fair.
	Like, here you are with your high body count.
	You are promiscuous, but you want to take a non-promiscuous woman.
	You want a virgin.
	That's hypocrisy.
	That's a double standard.
	But, I mean, well, first off, on me, maybe start there.
	Do you guys think that that's problematic for a high body count man to be like, I don't want to date a virgin?
	Why is that problematic?
	Because it's like you have a high body count and you're expecting your woman to have a low body count.
	That's good.
	Well, that's just restating the issue, but what's actually problematic about the issue?
	It's just because, like, he's been sleeping with multiple people, like, multiple women.
	And then, like, this girl, let's say she's only slept with three women.
	I'm not three women, three, like, men or whatever.
	Like, and he's, or not, no.
	Okay, let me give like a better example.
	Let's just say he had to pick between a girl that had like 30 plus body count and then like a three plus body count.
	Yeah.
	Obviously, his body count is probably like maybe 40, I want to say.
	Let's say it's 60.
	60.
	Let's say it's 60, right?
	So, and he decides to choose the girl with the lowest body count.
	And his poor excuse is, well, like, well, she has the lowest body count.
	She hasn't been sleeping with a lot of women.
	Yeah, what's the problem?
	What's the problem?
	But the thing about it is, is like, it's kind of signifying that the other woman is a slut.
	And like, no, it's just signifying that he has a preference for women with a lower body.
	Yeah, but he has a high body count.
	So he can still have a preference.
	It's okay.
	I'm not saying you can't have a preference or anything, but just like to disregard the other woman just because she has a higher body count, that's kind of like upsetting.
	Like, what if she had a really good chemistry?
	What if she had an amazing personality and her body count was just like your no-go, your no-breaker?
	I could say.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Would you date a 5'2 man who was bald?
	Yes.
	Have you?
	Yes.
	And is your husband a 5'2 man who's bald?
	He is not bald.
	He is not.
	And is he 5'2?
	Hang on, is he 5'2?
	He's 6'2.
	He is 6'2.
	So now, hang on, hang on, let's back up.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Hang on, let's back up.
	Let's back up just a little bit here.
	Okay, so he's 6'2, has hair, even though you would, of course, date 5'.
	And how many 5'2 bald men were available to you versus 6'2 men with hair?
	So the thing is.
	Hang on, answer the question first.
	Answer the question first.
	Let me answer your question.
	First, I don't really go out that much to be seen.
	Not the question I'm asking.
	Okay.
	Far more 5'2 bald men than there are 6'2 men.
	I just don't know where they are.
	So for me, there actually might be.
	So I don't care.
	There might be something in there.
	6'2 men with hair, right?
	Yeah, but like, if a 5'10 man with no hair comes up to me and he approaches to me and he's a gentleman and he's very, you know, courteous and he like is gentle, I would go for him.
	Well, I mean, now we'll never know because you're the six foot two chad with hair, right?
	And that's because like that's your preference.
	No, no, because he aligned with me in my life.
	And he just happened to be six foot two.
	How did he have the perfect personality and happen to be six foot two?
	That's an amazing, what an amazing coincidence.
	I would date like a Van Diesel if I had a lot of people.
	Hold on.
	I mean, Van Diesel is like the best dates.
	Don't even.
	So to Andrew's point here, when we talk about this height thing, and a lot of, like, we've asked this all the time, and it's like, the women will say it's virtue signaling.
	You'll say, yes, oh, I would date a short guy.
	I'll date a guy shorter than me.
	But then if you do even the most minimal Inquisition, how tall were all your boyfriends?
	And all your boyfriends were above the average height of men.
	So average height is like 5'9, 5'10.
	And these women say, 'Oh, my past three boyfriends were all like six foot in the ball.' Just on average.
	It's just like, it's kind of ridiculous.
	Like, you say you will, but conveniently, you've never done it.
	I actually have dated somebody who is like my height, five foot.
	I'm 5'5, and he was like 5'5.
	Yeah, for how long?
	So we only been speaking to each other for like two years and talking to each other.
	But he's a very busy guy.
	So therefore, his.
	Did you sleep with him?
	Well, yes, of course.
	Okay, so hang on.
	So you slept with this guy.
	Now, out of this one guy that you slept with, if we were to average all the men you've ever slept with, they look a bit more like the husband or a bit more like the bad guy.
	No, because my taste in men is very different.
	Okay, so on average, so on average, you're sleeping with men who are below five foot nine.
	Yes.
	Really?
	Yeah, fucking run.
	I will give you fruit.
	I will give you food if you need it.
	Like, I'm being so for real because I'm not like a surface level.
	All right, all right.
	Well, let's find.
	Hang on, okay, so let's inquire a little further.
	Okay.
	So how many men total?
	I, you total, I have supped with 32 men.
	Okay, so 32 men.
	Now, out of the 32 men, right?
	Some of these I assume are casual.
	Yes.
	You're casually hooking up with 5'5 ⁇ , dudes?
	Yes.
	Over the 6' dudes?
	Because height doesn't matter to me.
	It does not, like, okay, I'm being for real.
	Height does not matter to me.
	It's just your age.
	If you're younger than me, then that's my biggest pet.
	But you did conveniently marry someone 6'2.
	It was because actually, he's 6'2.
	He's not 6'2.
	He's between 6'2'.
	Never mind.
	You know what?
	What the hell?
	What just happened?
	I don't know.
	What the hell just happened?
	Okay, it's way too early to have a meltdown in this show.
	Okay, it's way too early for that.
	So back and back up for you.
	Let me drink really quick.
	Okay.
	So I guess if you need to fortify yourself for this.
	So no.
	Yes.
	The average height that I would normally date a guy is between 5'5 to 6'5.
	Okay, that's the, that's like, but the maximum.
	That's not an average.
	It's 5'10.
	The average is 5'5.
	Okay, that makes sense.
	So if the average is around 5'10, 5'10 is much taller than you.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So the thing is, it's like, why don't you just want guys your own size?
	Because you have some kind of preference?
	Because no, they got some kind of preference?
	No, they have big, big, what is it?
	Big man, small man syndrome or something.
	Or tiny dog.
	Why don't you look at me?
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	And you have some kind of preference against that, right?
	No, because small dog syndrome.
	Small dog syndrome.
	And you have a preference against that.
	I don't have a preference against that pretty.
	Then why aren't you dating guys with small dog syndrome?
	Because it's just their attitude.
	Then you have a preference against that attitude.
	Wait, wait, can I count it?
	And so if you have a preference, yeah, so if you have a preference against that attitude, prefer to not have it, then all you're saying, you're just making the same argument the guy is where he's like, look, I just prefer to be with chicks who have a lower body count.
	But what, but, okay, so when you're talking about preferences, like things I like, just things I like.
	That's it.
	Okay, but what?
	Like, like, okay, so you, do you like pizza?
	Yeah.
	Okay, what are the toppings you hate?
	I don't hate any toppings.
	Not one?
	Not one.
	I could eat pizza.
	Anchovies.
	I could eat anchovies.
	Yeah.
	Okay, okay, let's try it a different way.
	What's your favorite toppings?
	My favorite topping would have to be cheese.
	Okay.
	So you prefer your pizza staff cheese.
	Well, don't all pizzas have cheese?
	No.
	So you've had.
	You could have a cheese for your pizza?
	I did not know that.
	Yeah, but anyway, but this.
	This could be sauce and bread.
	I mean, that's what like lactose intolerant people get, right?
	Or they get fake cheese or something like this.
	But you have a preference for it.
	Or some type of food.
	There's some type of food that you like a certain way.
	Like a sandwich.
	What type of sandwich meat do you hate?
	Are you going to love all that too?
	Is there just nothing you won't eat?
	Because I'm an eater.
	I'm a Taurus.
	Okay.
	So you got to understand.
	I like food.
	Okay, Taurus.
	What's a food you hate?
	What is a mushroom?
	Okay, you hate mushrooms.
	So you have a preference against mushrooms.
	I have a preference against them.
	Now, mushrooms won't kill you to eat them, right?
	No, they won't.
	Yeah, I just don't like how they taste.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so that's a preference.
	It's just an I like.
	So when you're talking about relationships and guys, you're just talking about I likes, I dislike.
	I like this, I like this, I like this.
	Mean to just be like, if a guy were to come up to me and like says, let's just, for example, like I said, if I, my body count is 32, right?
	There's a girl that has like maybe like what three to five, and then he chooses the girl that has less than me, and then I ask him, okay, why did you pick that?
	It makes you feel bad.
	It does make me feel bad.
	It makes you feel bad.
	Yeah, it makes me feel bad because it's just like.
	But what is he doing that's wrong other than making you feel bad?
	Well, one, my feelings.
	Yeah, your feelings.
	My feelings, but also, two, like.
	So it's to your feelings.
	But also, two, it's like, it's like monkey see monkey do type thing.
	Like if you have a high body count as a man and I have a high body count as a woman, like, and we're both having, you know, intercourse with different people, why does my body count is disregarded in your preferences?
	Because you don't like it.
	Just like you don't like mushrooms.
	I have a question for Andrew, though.
	Do you feel like there's an actual difference?
	Like, could you tell someone's body count before they actually tell you?
	Because I feel like people lie about that.
	Maybe not with a lot of people.
	So then, like, I just am curious, like, how that preference works other than a societal impact on it.
	It's just a revulsion.
	So it's like, here's an idea.
	Have you ever eaten?
	Have you ever eaten dog shit?
	I would not like to.
	Why not?
	It's a preference.
	Because it's revolting.
	Yeah.
	But I also.
	Oh, wait a second.
	Wait a second.
	Couldn't somebody put dog shit in a cake and you wouldn't know it.
	I mean, so you could accidentally eat dog shit.
	That's an interesting analogy.
	Wait a second.
	You could accidentally.
	Hang on, I just want to answer.
	You could accidentally eat dog shit.
	Yeah.
	And that would suck.
	Hang on.
	That would suck, right?
	So you're saying you could be tricked because you don't know, but you're still, if you knew that there was dog shit, you wouldn't eat the cake, would you?
	Fair enough.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	But also, I wanted to say just super quick and we can go back.
	But when you're talking about like men's height versus like women's body count, men don't have control over their height.
	They're just born that way.
	They grow, they stop growing.
	And then like, but like women and men have control over their body count.
	So it's kind of hard to compare those two.
	You have control over way to control with how many people you sleep.
	But do you have control over the things you prefer?
	No.
	But that's why I checked yes and no on the box because I feel like is it hypocritical?
	But you don't believe that.
	But is it wrong?
	No, you can't force somebody to do that.
	Wait, wait, it's not hypocrisy.
	I mean, a little bit.
	Not even a little bit.
	No, Hypocrisy, people get this wrong all the time.
	I don't know.
	But what hypocrisy is, is I'm advocating for a thing of which I'm guilty, right?
	While telling you, right, the person that you cannot do, said, hang on, hang on.
	So if you were to say you having a body count is wrong, even though I have the same body count, right?
	But that's not wrong.
	That would be hypocrisy.
	Me saying, though, I have a high body count and prefer women with a lesser body count is not hypocrisy.
	Okay.
	Hypocrisy.
	How would you prefer it because you think it's revolting?
	Yeah, so imagine it this way.
	But you don't think yourself is revolting.
	Yeah, yeah, hang on, hang on.
	Imagine it this way.
	Let's say there's a fat person on a treadmill.
	They know they're fat.
	They know they're fat, and so they're trying to lose weight, right?
	They're on the treadmill and they look over at somebody else and they say, hey, you're fat.
	You should lose weight.
	They're not a hypocrite.
	There's no hypocrisy there.
	The hypocrisy would be if they say, if they say, hey, you're fat, right?
	And I'm not, that would be like hypocrisy.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Wouldn't that be like condescending then?
	It would be both.
	That's the people get hypocrisy wrong all the time.
	They think that hypocrisy is being guilty of the thing which you're condemning.
	That's not actually what it is.
	It's the belief that the thing in which you're condemning is actually fine.
	There's like a pretense of pretending with hypocrisy.
	So technically, a man with a higher body count who prefers a woman with a low body count is a hypocritical man and he prefers to be able to explain.
	He's not a hypocrite.
	There's no hypocrisy.
	We're not going to get anywhere at this line of questioning, but I do wonder.
	How do you know?
	Because we've been talking about the same thing for 10 minutes, but I'm not the host, so who am I?
	However, I do.
	In the conversation, you wrecking wrecking the whole company.
	I'm sorry.
	Go ahead.
	But I am curious because I feel like you don't often see that perspective coming from women, of women with high body counts saying, I want a man with a lower body count.
	Sorry, just I'm curious why you think that that is.
	Oh, it's actually really simple.
	So the idea of paternity is something which men only recently could be assured of.
	So the idea that I know that the kid that you have is mine, we can now know.
	But that's a very new technology.
	Before that, how could you know if the child was yours?
	So then would that only apply to situations where you're trying to date someone to marry?
	It wouldn't apply to like a normal hookup.
	You might.
	Well, no, that's all new tech.
	These are all new technologies.
	Okay.
	So here's the idea.
	The idea is if you were sleeping with a woman before she's your wife or even she's not your wife, how could you assure paternity absent a paternity test?
	By having, I guess, her only sleep with one person.
	Only personal person.
	But that implies that you're having a child.
	Hang on, so hang on, so hang on.
	So this would imply that there could be a revulsion mechanism.
	Okay.
	A revulsion mechanism around the idea that if a woman is promiscuous, that you could not be assured assured paternity.
	And so there's an internal revulsion which happens.
	So you're saying it's kind of passed down.
	It's generational.
	Well, I think it's biological.
	It's a biological way to create an assurance for paternity.
	Interesting.
	So I have a question.
	So basically, like, what do you think about if a girl is like, like, let's say she's like 40 or 50 and like she wants to remarry and a guy cares?
	Or like, let's just say she's 35.
	She's been with six people, but she's had six boyfriends.
	She's been in six relationships where she wanted to get married.
	Maybe a guy cheated on her.
	Maybe they weren't compatible.
	Like, but she wasn't promiscuous.
	Then what is that difference than someone who's three or four?
	Well, so it's interesting because like these red pillars, these online red pillars who everybody hates, like, yeah, call everybody whores.
	They actually really don't.
	They actually try to dive into exactly these ideas.
	So the idea, let's say you had a woman who had elongated relationships.
	Maybe she only had two or three, right?
	And they were long-term relationships.
	Well, that would signify something completely different than a woman who's promiscuous, even if the body count's a little higher, right?
	So even if, let's say it's five in 50 years, right?
	That's one partner per 10 years.
	Right.
	That's going to be a way different story than, well, not to pick on you, right?
	But, you know, 50 or 60 partners in a year.
	That's going to signify a promiscuity issue.
	Right.
	And that's also dangerous to our bodies.
	I feel like to an extent you should care who you're sleeping with and how many people they're sleeping with.
	And I think that you can change your mind.
	And maybe that's okay if men do want to change their mind.
	Like I think that.
	And they do.
	And the thing is, is like this happens.
	It's not like there's not porn stars out there.
	They don't get Mr. Wonderful.
	They do.
	Some of them do.
	But mostly they don't.
	And also the idea here is that men do find it, they do find it repugnant.
	They do find it repulsive.
	Where you think that it's a double standard, that could be true, right?
	Society does judge promiscuous men differently than promiscuous women, but that's because of women.
	Women judge them differently than men do, too.
	That's so true.
	Women judge each other more than last podcast I found.
	But think about why that would be.
	Why that would be the case.
	It's because you're always assured paternity.
	Like you always know who the baby's dad's going to be.
	They don't know.
	Wait.
	So it's not, it's built in for you to have that repulsion.
	I just meant more.
	So like if it's just down to a number, right?
	Like saying three versus like 10.
	Like if it was, you're, again, 35 and you've been in 10 relationships where I feel like there should be some kind of like.
	But every situation is going to be different.
	When you ask for like a hard cutoff, I don't even think we need to give one.
	Just make it easy, right?
	Right.
	Everything after one is worse than one.
	Everything after zero is worse than zero.
	It's pretty simple, right?
	So it's like, well, what's the cutoff?
	Is it three?
	Is it four?
	Is it five?
	Who gives a shit?
	Ultimately, everything after zero is worse than zero.
	Everything after one is worse than one.
	Everything after two is worse than two, right?
	You only really need to think of it that way.
	What other way do we even need to think of it?
	Don't think of it.
	But the thing is, is like men do think of it.
	Well, and it also matters because, like, if you're someone who's had like relations with a lot of people, like, and I don't know, maybe you're someone who doesn't get tested regularly or something, and you get with some other person, they could contract something.
	You know, you don't want someone who's been sleeping around with a bunch of people who you don't know where they've been.
	The only problem I kind of take with this, you're right.
	Don't get me wrong, totally right.
	It's just that it comes from a female perspective.
	So you kind of think about things from the perspective of women.
	Well, I am a woman, so that would make sense.
	Sure, sure.
	But what I'm saying is, my challenge is to say to you, instead, take yourself out of the female perspective, put yourself in the male perspective, right?
	You will always be assured of paternity.
	You always know it's your kid.
	You will always know that.
	We don't have that luxury, right?
	At least historically, we never did.
	Only right now do we have that luxury.
	Women, in fact, beat men up for asking to get a paternity test, even though they themselves have absolute knowledge, right?
	It's like, so look at it from the perspective of the man for a second.
	I actually have a friend who's going through that right now.
	Just to challenge it, like, it doesn't come down to like if you're a slut, like or not.
	Like, if you're sleeping around and you wouldn't know versus you're only with that person and you're exclusive and you haven't been with someone since your last relationship, I mean, just in my personal, I guess, views are that it's just different.
	Like, that I feel like.
	But are you relaying those views to you personally?
	Because this has something to do with your own personal situation.
	Are you?
	Maybe a little bit, but I think that.
	Isn't it interesting, right?
	It's like, think of the question here, though.
	Take yourself out, put yourself in the man's shoes.
	Instead, relays right back to me, my own personal situation.
	Then I'll relay it back to the man.
	It's like, forget all that.
	Just create a blank slate for a second, right?
	Tomorrow you wake up and you're a male, right?
	Let's look at it from men's perspectives now.
	If you sleep with a woman, how are you assured paternity?
	How are you assured that the child is yours?
	What would be the signs you would look for?
	That would frustrate me.
	Yeah, it's hard to think about that.
	Yeah, obviously.
	Yeah, super hard to think about, right?
	Because as a woman, all I would say is like, oh, well, just don't sleep with a bunch of women.
	Right, exactly.
	You just said, don't sleep with a bunch of women or a bunch of men and then there's no problem.
	And that's exactly what men say.
	They say the same thing.
	They're like, hey, just don't sleep with a bunch of men.
	Problem solved.
	What if it's like prior body count and then you're with somebody for an entire like, you know, couple years or whatever, and then like you're the only person that you're betting.
	I think that might depend on the person.
	At that point, do you think it still matters or would it be?
	I think it's still going to matter to a lot of men.
	Yeah.
	Interesting.
	I think that they're still going to look at.
	So, I mean, when we evaluate other people, men especially, we tend to look at the total, not just looking at the sort of like individual things.
	It seems to me when I have these conversations with women, they look at more individual traits, right?
	Perhaps he's very tall.
	He's a good provider.
	Perhaps there's an aggressiveness level they like, right?
	There's some sort of, they kind of move more towards intuition.
	Men aren't doing that.
	Looking at it like a fucking accountant, right?
	They take the total and they're like, well, she's hot and she's this and she's got a low body count and blah, blah, blah.
	She checks all the boxes.
	All right, let's go.
	Right?
	That's literally how they view it.
	They view it a completely different way than women do.
	They're not really looking at it intuitively.
	Because is it more of a like a logic or an a little bit of a broader?
	Completely, of course, yeah.
	So it's literally an analysis.
	They're doing an analysis.
	And so, what like this whole manosphere space was, or the whole red pill space, it still is.
	The idea is just if you're gonna, if men are gonna make this analysis, how do we inform it?
	Like, how do we inform that analysis so they're making a good one?
	Well, the thing is, like, women are so like, we're so like emotionally drived, drived.
	Driven emotions.
	Jesus.
	Big fail on that one.
	That was a massive L.
	That was incredible.
	Wow.
	Anyway, go ahead.
	We're emotionally driven creatures.
	So we don't.
	So a lot of the time we kind of forget to think about the logic because we're so emotional, like so caught up in our emotions.
	But what about the man?
	Can the man be more emotional?
	Can he?
	Biologically speaking, women are more emotional because we have estrogen, men have testosterone.
	So we're going to be more emotionally inclined.
	We have the maternal instinct.
	So, I mean, I don't know.
	But can a man look at it at a situation, for example, paternity tests, whatever?
	Can he look at it rather from an emotional standpoint than answering?
	We call those men simps.
	So the thing is, it's like, yes, a man can become overly emotional and he can let his little brain override his big brain, right?
	But real men do math.
	Some men do do that.
	But the thing is, men now are trying to police it up, right?
	So they're like, fucking simp, stop doing that.
	What are you doing?
	Right?
	This is terrible for you.
	It's terrible for her.
	It's terrible for the world.
	Stop it.
	Right?
	They're actually making a concerted effort to police that shit up.
	Women aren't really making.
	In fact, they're doing the opposite.
	They're like, you go, girl, girl, power, get your thing on, do whatever it is that you want to do.
	You know, there's no real effort there to police the behavior up.
	For men, there is one.
	There's a concerted effort to try to do that.
	But why would you want to, why can a man be more emotionally in tune with his emotions?
	Why do they have to be policed?
	Well, I mean, so here's the thing: you like all of the modern luxuries that you have.
	You like your lighting and you like your vehicles and you like your roads and you like all those things.
	I just want to let you know that there's men right now who are aggressively murdering people in their sleep to make sure that that all happens for you.
	Aggressively, right this second as we speak, some American soldier somewhere stabbing some dude in the throat.
	Promise you.
	Don't know where it is, but I promise you it's happening, right?
	He's not going to be very emotional about that.
	And you don't really want him to be very emotional about that.
	And women don't really want emotional men.
	They kind of pretend they do, right?
	They want to kind of, I think, at least this is my opinion.
	I think that they want the man that they really like to show some emotion to them.
	But they don't really like when the man that they have is showing a lot of emotion to other people.
	In other words, they don't want to bitch.
	Okay.
	That actually makes sense.
	I can see your standpoint on that one.
	I just see it.
	We got a couple chats here.
	We have Techno Trooper.
	Thank you, man.
	Luce, I'll have you read these.
	In the recent possible ban of TikTok, should OF be the next ban?
	Is OF fueling exploitation under the guise of empowerment?
	Boy, that's a question.
	That's going to be a brutal one, Brian, to dive right into.
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah, I don't want to linger too long on porn bad convo just because it's not super interesting.
	But who here's in favor of OnlyFans ban?
	Who here's in favor of a TikTok ban?
	Loki, it's ruining my life.
	Oh, look at that moon, boy.
	It's right over.
	Wait, can you guys see it?
	Full moon or only moon.
	We can't see it from anywhere.
	I prefer not to have a TikTok ban only because I like all my lunatics in one place.
	They're kind of spread out.
	TikTok's the same thing as Instagram.
	Yeah, well, the problem is they're just going to go to another platform and be just as insane on that plan.
	It's like, you know where all the insane people are.
	Just leave them there.
	They did that with Vine.
	They did do that with Orion, you're right.
	So OF girls, should it be banned?
	What do you think?
	I mean, I think on social media, I think like if people want to do that, but on the kids are on these apps, like there's children that get promoted at very young ages.
	So I think that TikTok is very catered to children.
	And you're lying if you're saying they're not having accounts that say 18 plus and parents aren't able to monitor it.
	So I think that it's just to make it platform like, you know what I mean?
	Like just to an extent, like it's, it's, it's better to just take it off like social media so that kids are protected.
	I 100% agree.
	I have seen a full chocolate starfish on my TikTok for you page.
	Did not want to see that.
	What does that mean?
	That's fucking disgusting.
	But wait, why would that bother you?
	Like don't you always see one of the homes?
	Oh my god.
	That was like the best possible way you could have responded to that.
	The same reason it bothers her.
	I don't want children to scroll past that.
	No, okay.
	Because even if you do say, oh, I'm 18 plus, you just press a button.
	You could be 11 and say, oh, I'm 18 plus.
	And it's just their parents' account or whatever.
	The same thing happens with OnlyFans.
	There's no doubt in my mind that that happens with OnlyFans.
	But isn't it the parents' responsibility for monitoring?
	You cannot monitor that much.
	You cannot.
	But kids just shouldn't have phones.
	Yeah, that is what I'm trying to say.
	If you can't monitor your child's screens or whatever, they shouldn't have screens.
	They just come up on half screens.
	What happens if your child is 16 and runs away because you monitored their phone?
	Yeah, exactly.
	My parents fucking monitored the shit out of my phone and it made me a turbo slut for a year.
	But like a form of event.
	Exactly.
	I've been in an environment, in a sexual environment for a very long time.
	And I saw pornography when I was really young.
	So do you think that was a variety?
	I'm having that shit on.
	Sorry.
	You just took it to the wrong place.
	Can you read this?
	Please.
	Why is it so difficult for these gals to accept that attraction triggers and reproductive strategies between men and women are asymmetrical?
	Our ontology/slash intrinsic hardwiring is vastly different.
	It's true.
	That's true.
	The basis of the very being of what is woman.
	This is why, like, the rad turfs, you've seen the rad turfs, the trans exclusionary radical feminists, like J.K. Rowling and those.
	The reason that they're so upset about the entire trans phenomenon is based on this particular argument.
	They're saying, what is a woman is, no, you can't just, you men can't just come in and take that from us because there's something that's special about it and unique about it.
	A woman is a human-female person.
	Yeah, yeah, I get it.
	But leaving that aside for a second, to the point of ontology or the being or essence of a thing, right?
	When you're talking about what that is with a woman, it does seem like there is something to that.
	Actually, I agree with that because I have seen that, I think they did some brain scans or something, and they show that people who, like, for example, there's a man and he identifies as a woman, or she identifies as a woman, whatever.
	They scan the brain, and he has the brain matter of a woman.
	Yeah, all the bad things.
	All the brain scan stuff is total bullshit.
	I don't know.
	I'm not a scientist.
	But the thing is, when you're talking about ontologies, like this is the philosophical diving into being, of what being is.
	So do women have a different being than men do?
	Yeah, I think they do.
	I think there is a lot of distinctions between men and women.
	Well, that's what I brought up.
	Base level.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But it's not just the idea of the biology itself, but the essence of the thing.
	I think that's such an interesting topic to talk about because that could be true.
	But I think that there is a pretty large chunk of it that is societally based.
	And I think I almost wonder if we didn't raise boys and girls differently, if that sort of, because a lot of brain activity is pattern recognition.
	So I think that if people didn't grow up to think, oh, boys should be thinking this way and girls should be thinking this way, that there would be more similarities.
	I mean, of course, there are physical similarities, sorry, differences that are hard to beat.
	You can't change that sort of thing.
	Like my muscle mass is nowhere near.
	But I do feel like there's got to be some sort of societal value to that as well.
	Well, yeah.
	Think about like.
	Well, let's explore it for just a quick second.
	If this is true, if you think that there's, so you're talking about nature versus nurture here.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Which is fine.
	We can dive into it.
	But if you're talking about the nurture part, you really don't have the upper hand in that conversation because where's all the female oil rig workers?
	Where's all the line workers?
	Hang on.
	Where's all the, where are all the female engineers who are working in applied engineering?
	They're nowhere.
	When offered choice in the egalitarian nations, like this one, they still move towards the same oppressive jobs they had pre-enlightenment.
	So they're still teachers, right?
	Especially preschool teachers.
	They're still moving towards secretarial work.
	They're still moving towards that.
	Interestingly enough, that seems to actually give the case to me that, wait, there seem to be distinct differences that aren't just social.
	Because once there's no barrier to entry, you're still doing the same shit you were doing before the society changed radically in order to accommodate you.
	I think that you can think that if you want to, but I do believe that there is some sort of block.
	You know, like you might say that there's no barrier for women to enter those kind of fields, but there is.
	Well, getting, like, I guess there's.
	What would stop you from working on an oil rig tomorrow?
	Well, I mean, I'm sure that some people do choose that if they want to live that kind of life where you're very, like, isolated from other people.
	But I think that when you say that, like, women aren't engineers, I think that that's just kind of...
	Applied.
	I'm talking about applied.
	Applied.
	Yeah, so like when you're talking about engineering, it's wide and it's encompassing.
	Well, I don't know.
	When I'm talking about applied, I'm talking about you take your hands and you build shit.
	I do think that there are a lot of women who maybe would be interested in joining the construction field and that sort of thing where applied engineering.
	What's the barrier?
	I think that the barrier is that they're kind of pushed out of those roles.
	I think that like the government incentives are here for those roles.
	No, there's no government, but it's like the people who own the businesses aren't going to hire a girl.
	They're going to take one good look at me and think, well, you're not going to be useful to me.
	Are they wrong?
	I disagree.
	I think that if you work hard at something, you can be good at that.
	Do you think that you're going to be as good as a man roofing?
	I think so.
	You think so?
	Well, I mean, if I learn how to do it.
	Can we do 1 million?
	Hang on, can we do this?
	Can we do this thing?
	Right here on whatever.
	I'll put $1,000 down.
	I'll come in tomorrow.
	You can come in tomorrow, right?
	And we'll just have two little birdhouses and we can roof them.
	Okay, I'm so done.
	I'm so done.
	I'm going to watch a YouTube tutorial.
	I'm going to be so good.
	Wait, I'm...
	Yeah, I know.
	I know, but you're going to have to use actual shingles on these ropes.
	I'll bring my gloves.
	Okay, but you've got to bring $1,000.
	Oh, I don't have...
	Oh, whoa, whoa.
	I thought this was your $1,000.
	I don't have $1,000.
	Wait, This should be the easiest thousand bucks you ever made.
	You should just bluff it.
	Yeah, but do you know anything about roofing?
	Yes.
	So then that's immediately unfair because you already have experience.
	I thought you just got done telling me that if you went to the bottom of the room.
	I thought you just said if you went and applied as a roofer, that you would be just as useful as the people who were there roofing.
	If I had interest in roofing and if I had experience.
	Have any interest in roofing?
	She could.
	I'm just like, you don't have any interest in roofing?
	I mean, I am learning how to build houses right now, literally in school.
	So I wouldn't ideally have an interest.
	Well, you're learning how to design houses in school.
	No, but you learn the construction of it all as well.
	It's not just the aesthetic parts of it.
	Architectural engineering is a real thing.
	I'm taking two.
	Okay, so are you looking for when you're talking about architecture?
	You're looking for commercial?
	Are you looking forward to that?
	I'm primarily residential perfect.
	There's only two colors of wire that go to a power.
	You know, those little sockets in the wall?
	Two colors.
	That's electrical, though.
	What are they?
	What are they?
	What are the two colors?
	I don't know.
	I haven't gotten there yet.
	Dude, I just started.
	I just started.
	I'm not going to act like I know everything about architecture.
	I just started.
	It's two colors.
	It's two.
	Is it blue and red?
	I'm just.
	I was going to say black and white, but I have no idea.
	I was going to say red and yellow.
	Right?
	But I feel like we were talking about roofing one second ago.
	Now we're talking about electrical.
	That's different.
	You hire an electrical engineer to do.
	But wait, you said you're an architect.
	I'm not.
	You're not an architect yet, but you're studying it.
	You said a part of that is studying construction.
	Big part of construction is know basic electrical.
	You leave space for the electrical work to be on.
	You have to know where it has to hook up.
	Oh, no.
	There isn't a construction.
	But you hire somebody else.
	Planet Earth.
	Not a construction worker on planet Earth that does no basic electrical.
	Not one.
	Probably basic.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	What I just said was basic.
	But I'm not going to be a construction worker.
	I'm going to be an architect.
	So it's slightly different.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So not a construction worker.
	No.
	Yeah.
	Did you get that where you wanted that to be?
	Metro Matt donated $200.
	Thank you, Metro Matt.
	Men will continue clearly defining what they want, and women will continue disregarding it.
	Stop being sloats.
	Be a good person and take care of your man.
	There is nothing more to it.
	Oh, Metro Matt, thank you for the big $200 TTS.
	Really appreciate it, man.
	And then we do have, I'm going to, Luce, I'm going to have you read this one from Lucas.
	This is kind of like part two from his previous one.
	Thank you, Metro Matt.
	Appreciate it.
	Lucas, thank you for the $100 Stream Labs message.
	So yes, double standards exist, but I assure you that double standards go both ways.
	For that matter, the litmus test criteria for women are far more extensive.
	See Dr. Bus slash medicine and why women have sex.
	I haven't read that.
	Thank you, Lucas, for that.
	Appreciate the message.
	Did you have more for Lucy Goosey on the construction stuff?
	I think she got it right.
	Just in the future, you can always think of it as the whites and blacks are always fighting in the green state neutral.
	Ooh.
	It would be helpful for you.
	I'm serious.
	That's how they think of it.
	In the neutral.
	You know what?
	That's going to come in handy when I get to that chapter.
	I'm going to be like, wait a minute.
	In any case, so the idea here, all I'm saying to you is that no, you're not in construction.
	Is the reason you're not in construction because there was some social barrier against it?
	Or is the reason you're not in construction is because you weigh like 100 pounds and you ain't going to get up on a fucking roof and shingle a roof because you will literally die of a heat stroke in two hours.
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah, I feel like that's fair.
	Like me personally, I'm not going to be doing that probably.
	But when I, like, I am, I think we talked about this last time.
	I don't know if you were present when we were talking about it, but David was.
	Brian, why do I keep calling you David?
	What's wrong with you?
	There's something connecting on it.
	I'm not the same with David, too.
	I'm not going to lie.
	Okay, anyway, but one of the projects that me and my family ideally are working on, and part of the reason I'm doing drafting first, things first instead of some of the other classes that I'm going to, I'm going to have to take, is because we bought property, just blank slate of land, and we're going to want to build something on it.
	So when we do start doing that, we're probably not likely going to be hiring a lot of people to come in.
	So I will have you have to do it.
	My point is, when you're talking about nature versus nurture, right?
	The reason that we see, even though there's no barrier to entry for these jobs for women, why do you think they're still going for the secretarial work?
	Why do you think they're still going for the clerical work?
	Probably because of men like you who think that that's the spot that they should be in.
	Who's forcing them to do it?
	Society.
	How?
	I don't know if it's forcing.
	I don't think that's the right word to you.
	Then how?
	And then at that point, it's preference, and you're right.
	Like, I don't know.
	I mean, how?
	How is society forcing women to do anything?
	I don't think that anyone's forced technology, social media, Instagram, TikTok, and why don't you explain?
	Because you said, or unless you were joking, you said it's men like Andrew that are, was it forcing women?
	No, no, no, no.
	That believe that there are certain spots and places in society that women should be, like teaching and secretaries.
	So even if an insane person I am, if you don't have frontline fighting forces of the United States, it should be men there killing our enemies and not women getting captured.
	If you think that, then you cannot use that as a, like, as a, oh, gotcha.
	Women aren't in the military, so women can't do XYZ if you genuinely believe that men are the only ones that should be doing that.
	Why?
	Because if you think that they're the only ones, then you can't be like, oh, well, women don't fight in wars because you don't want them to.
	They don't fight in them.
	They're in support roles.
	I just feel that cannot be support roles.
	Well, it is true.
	I feel like if there's so many women in the military, you're telling me none of them are on the lines of the world.
	Well, so, I mean, men need to have people cook food?
	I didn't know.
	The more you know, so no, women are not allowed in frontline combat.
	I did not know.
	That's interesting.
	Do you know, is that like a, has that been a forever thing or is that like a...
	No, women, actually feminists have been trying to be down the door to get rid of this policy, right?
	And as it turns out, women don't want to go fight in wars.
	What a shock.
	Everybody is so shocked by the fact that women don't want to go pick up an M6.
	We also don't want to go to the front line.
	Well, that goes back to the menu.
	I don't want to versus nurture, though.
	It's like, I feel like there's more of, I guess, a natural instinct for men to have, to take out their, you know, anger or whatever in something like violence, whereas women wouldn't always go to the bottom.
	Women love violence as much as men do.
	But they like psychological warfare.
	Man, women are like, we're up here twisting your line.
	Isn't it interesting that if you could psychologically get a man to conduct violence on your behalf, that is still something that women like to watch is the exit of the violence.
	Well, then why conduct it to begin with?
	Exactly.
	Because women, but you just got to say women do.
	Well, I wasn't sure.
	I know that I've seen women in military uniforms.
	So I was just like, well, what?
	Well, yeah, they're in support roles.
	Sure.
	But not in hand-on-hands.
	Well, they're not supposed to be.
	There have been women who have been in combat, right?
	But that wasn't supposed to be how it worked.
	Who's supposed to?
	Like, you could be a helicopter pilot in a support role who's a female pilot and crash land behind enemy lines.
	Now you're in combat.
	That can't happen, but that's not the intention.
	And I can shingle roofs.
	Yeah, that's not the intention.
	Like, do construction?
	Are you being serious?
	Like, you think women are fighting because they want to do construction?
	Like, I don't know.
	Yeah, I don't think I've met a single girl who's like physically wants to do any of those things.
	Women just, I mean.
	I'd go a step further and say can't.
	Yeah, I mean, we'd be struggling for the same guy could do it.
	I had to build a table, right?
	I was on this TV show called Fish Finn.
	But they literally, so I got punished one day for no reason.
	I think the audience just wanted me to do it.
	Every season, someone has to build a table.
	And when I tell you, like, I almost had a mental breakdown.
	I had to sit by myself.
	They gave me a saw and some nails.
	And I'm like, I don't know what the fuck to do.
	Like, it's just because I don't want to do it.
	Like, I don't think any of those girls didn't want to do it.
	The guy would have been like, oh, sick, I could build a title.
	You have to understand that that was because of the social structures and the social engineering.
	It was the social engineering from the evil patriarchy.
	But I'm saying women naturally aren't like, because biologically, they don't, I don't think biologically, it's a combination, I think, of biological.
	Because you don't have any interest in it.
	Yeah.
	Like, look, you can reduce.
	The thing is, if we had, if we were in the case where you couldn't go get a job at an oil rig, right?
	And there wouldn't be a million government incentives to make sure that you were on an oil rig as Rosie the Riveter, flexing that muscle, you know what I mean?
	Pumping that oil, and you could give that one shot at the camera and be like, I did that.
	It would be a feminist fucking dream.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	They would love it.
	They would adore it.
	It would be a massive photo op.
	It would be great.
	By the way, they would love to have double the workforce because then they could have the wages.
	Okay.
	If they had 50% more applicants who were women than men, I really like your slippery slope fallacy you're doing right now.
	There's no slippery slope.
	What's the fallacy?
	The slippery slippery.
	Like, well, if then if women go down the oil rigs, then there's going to be a slippery slope.
	And I'll explain why.
	Okay, please.
	Okay, so if you and I are both qualified for the same job, okay, and we both go and we apply for that job, the employer has more or less negotiating power than only if one of us applies for that job.
	Sure.
	Does he have more or less?
	More.
	He has more negotiating power.
	Okay, so they wait.
	But that's if any, like, two male alps.
	So then if you're an oil rig operator, right, and women are capable of doing this job just like men, why wouldn't you want a ton of women to apply for this job, even though it would give you way more negotiating power over wages?
	Wait.
	I'm a little bit confused.
	Did you say between like if a male applicant and a female applicant?
	No, just it wouldn't even matter if they're male or female or two females or two males.
	If two people apply for a job versus one, does the employer have more or less negotiating power?
	More.
	More.
	So then that would mean that if you were the oil rig operator, if women could do that job, you would actually want a ton of them to apply because then they have more negotiating power over the wages, right?
	I guess.
	So then if that stands to reason, how in the world, why would oil rig operators be suppressing women away from oil rig work?
	I just don't know if anybody really dreams of working on an oil rig.
	Men are male or woman.
	Oh, no, no, no, no.
	There's men who love that shit.
	They live for it.
	They're called roughnecks.
	They love nothing more than to go work on fucking oil rigs all day long, every day.
	They can't wait.
	They dream of that shit.
	They're 16 years old and they're like, I'm going to be on an oil rig when I'm 19, baby, and I'm going to make that living for us.
	I'm not kidding.
	I want to build a table.
	I want to build a table.
	Libertariat told you.
	Architecture equals construction.
	Knowing how to draw a map that balances loads is different from actually building something.
	That's like saying a naval architect can weld a submarine.
	It's true.
	Yeah, sort of.
	But I also feel like that's a completely different industry.
	Like, not a different industry, sorry, a different trade welding.
	But also, ideally, your architect knows how to build a house so it won't fall down.
	So they have to have a pretty darn good understanding.
	Well, can I ask you a question?
	Actually, can I ask everyone a question?
	Is that okay?
	Yeah.
	No.
	Okay.
	How many people here can lift over 150 pounds?
	What does that have to do with anything?
	No, it actually does.
	How many women do not like your subscribers?
	150 pounds.
	Like, you know, like what are those?
	Binge pressing.
	Just whatever.
	Like, you can lift it up.
	Well, how many people here can?
	Oh, here, here.
	This is better.
	How many people here can just lift more than 75 pounds?
	I, for sure, really?
	I have to for my job.
	I've picked on my boyfriend.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	How much does he weigh?
	Okay.
	145?
	How much do you?
	No, no, no.
	He's more like 138.
	And how much do you weigh?
	120.
	But wait, wait.
	150 and 120.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Hang on.
	Did you do the thing where you grab the midsection and then use your whole back to pull back with leverage?
	There's my knees.
	You pick them up with your knees.
	You lift with your knees so you don't fuck up your back.
	Yeah, I get that, but that doesn't actually always increase your lift power.
	That's fair.
	That's fair enough.
	but my point was none of you can work construction then because you have to be able to lift a certain amount in order to I address your point because literally, imagine this, right?
	Any of you, put yourself in the shoes.
	You want to wake up at five in the morning.
	You want to go be outside in the sun all day long for 15, up to 15, 16 hour days, lifting things all day, sweating.
	You think that women naturally would ever naturally go to that?
	Because it's harder for us.
	There might be one weightlifter girl who would be like, yeah, that's cool, but she's not going to do that.
	She's going to be working.
	Can these bottom bras, they can't hardly bring the iced tea to the workers without coming.
	It's so hot out here.
	Literally.
	Wait, what the fuck?
	You know what I mean?
	Construction is darker.
	It's just insane.
	This yellow jacket's so ugly.
	You lift two things.
	You're like, yeah, I did that.
	Did you guys see that?
	I lifted it.
	I mean, if you were raised by a single father and like your father taught you how to do construction, I'm sure.
	I'm not saying that about knowing how to do it.
	We can know how to do it and not be strong enough to do it.
	And my point is not that it can't happen.
	We can pick you.
	We're smart.
	But we can't physically be able to do the same things as a man.
	Where again, it might take us two hours to do the same thing a guy can do.
	Exactly.
	Because of our physical ability.
	Yeah, but that doesn't mean that there's not women that have those physical.
	There might be one.
	Just because you're influenced doesn't mean that you're not going to be able to do it.
	I'm going to do this.
	I don't know one single girl.
	I don't know.
	My whole life.
	I don't know one single girl who was like, Daddy, my dad is construction.
	By the way, going on over here with you, you are way, way more capable than I think, or you think you are way more capable of doing these things than you actually are of doing these things.
	Oh, really?
	Says you.
	I have fucking eyeballs.
	You weigh 90 pounds.
	You're not getting on a roof and shaving shit.
	You can definitely do it if you're not.
	It's fucking crazy.
	Like, I have eyeballs.
	So you want to have a ball.
	How about we do this?
	She's like, look at me.
	I did this.
	So this is what we're going to do.
	This is what we're like Lucy.
	Look, there's roofing companies in Santa Barbara.
	I'm going to, maybe they can.
	Are you going to apply me?
	I'm going to have you do a day.
	With the roofing company, we're going to film it.
	I'm going to film it.
	Okay, how much am I getting paid for that?
	I'll do the same day.
	Okay, then you have to challenge them to learn.
	That's what I think.
	What makes you capable?
	Can you lift 175 pounds, Andrew?
	Yes.
	are there uh yeah any uh yes i can company any roofing company owners in santa barbara who yeah but i know but i'm not just talking about me i'm I'm saying that there probably are women who do want to do it.
	Yeah.
	Where?
	Probably.
	I don't know.
	Very small.
	Nowhere.
	I've never heard of one woman complaining.
	Again, here, here.
	It stands to reason.
	If it was the case that women were as capable of doing these jobs as men are, right?
	You claim, no, it's a social stigma.
	From a business owner's perspective, if they get way more leverage in negotiating, if they have more applicants, why the fuck wouldn't they want women who are just as capable to apply for those jobs?
	Also, sorry, but like diversity highlights.
	Probably because of stereotypes.
	Like they probably think, oh, well, they probably think what you think.
	Oh, well, this woman, she's skinny.
	She might not be able to lift.
	She might not be able to get a drink.
	They're not stereotypes.
	They care about money.
	I know, but they don't want to pay that same person more if they think that they're going to take longer to do that.
	No, by you applying, they necessarily have the leverage to pay everybody less.
	They can necessarily raise the ball.
	There's just nothing I could say to convince them.
	Private chat.
	Yeah.
	We have a message here from Lucas.
	Go ahead, Lucy Goosey, read this, please.
	Look at the Scandinavian countries.
	The more they tried to equalize STEM professions through government policy, the larger the job choice chasm between men versus women.
	By the way, 97.2% of roofers in the U.S. are men.
	So there we go.
	That's not 100.
	That's not 100.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	Yeah.
	How many of them are women who are applying, who are classified as women, who are male at birth?
	I had a friend who did that.
	I had a friend who fucking did that.
	I can't.
	But we'll just grant for you.
	We'll just grant for you that there's some women who can do some of these jobs.
	Nobody's disputing that.
	And it was never in dispute.
	Nobody's disputing that there's not some women who can.
	Pull up the image.
	Pull up the image.
	Wait a minute.
	I'm only getting 77% as many carrots as you're getting.
	And he's carrying it.
	Anti-femme comics guys on Twitter.
	W. All right, we have another chat here.
	Lucy Goosey, go ahead and read it.
	Lucy, the plural of woman is woman.
	Woman is woman.
	Please don't trigger Andrew.
	I'm sorry if my accent isn't good enough for you.
	She's very sensitive.
	Also, ESL is rough.
	English as a second language is libertarian.
	I do appreciate it.
	Also, sometimes what they'll do with these construction stats is like the woman is the accountant for the construction company.
	You're just assuming that.
	No, no.
	I'm saying in the stats.
	Oh, he's a cat.
	That is the case.
	That is the case.
	Well, I mean, would you like to see the stats?
	No, I don't want to talk about this anymore.
	Now, suddenly, when they're just dating.
	We're going to roof this birdhouse tomorrow.
	Okay.
	And then we'll talk.
	And then I will concede if I need to.
	Like a woman.
	Oh, you want me to go, dude?
	What is your freaking problem?
	Yeah, that would be even better.
	Let's just go do roofing for a day.
	You should do a little bit of soda.
	Lucy's going to do roofing.
	I'm going to push it.
	That was his idea.
	Why are you guys making fun of me?
	Hello.
	If Lucy should do roofing, then you should be able to take care of a baby for like a business.
	A man who's taking care of multiple babies is not going to be able to take care of a baby.
	Oh, well.
	But like, there's a lot of men out there that don't really raise children.
	Wait, what?
	They can't breastfeed.
	You're raising a bad person.
	I think that you guys are just a bad person.
	For one day, I'll have to take care of a baby instead of for my entire adult life.
	I know.
	I mean, try it.
	Just try it for a day.
	Can you imagine a baby kid?
	I've actually breakfasted.
	I have many children.
	I have many children.
	And were you there in their lives?
	Yeah.
	Having so much fun.
	And were you participating with your wife 50-50, like taking care of them, changing the diapers, taking them to school?
	No, no, no.
	First of all, back up.
	Now, when you say 50-50, when you're talking about the health and welfare of the kid, no.
	Of course, she has a different role than I do.
	Does that mean I can't take care of a baby?
	Of course not.
	So you can't take care of a baby.
	I just said I can.
	You can take care of a baby.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And so Lucy can roof.
	Yeah, let's find out how good Lucy does.
	Who said I could take care of a baby?
	First of all, let's backtrack.
	Do not leave a baby in my possession.
	I'm not sure.
	It's going to cry.
	I'm going to get that.
	Hey, babe.
	Throw a baby in the trash can.
	We have a first reaction to get to.
	Let's do the Russia versus USA video.
	America versus Russia.
	One sec, guys.
	We're getting this pulled up.
	Thank you for.
	Was there another one?
	No, we're good.
	Okay.
	Go ahead, play it.
	America versus Russia.
	Asking men if they would provide for their woman.
	Well, it just depends.
	You know.
	Number one, why would I?
	But what is she doing while I'm working?
	You know, it's kind of like each relationship now is a 50-50.
	Yes, because I'm ultimately responsible for if it's a wife, it's about family and children, and ideally, she should dedicate 100% of her time to raising them.
	Well, I mean, I would want it to be 50-50.
	That's the current situation I have.
	Basically, if she doesn't feel like working, if she doesn't feel like self-actualizing and she's comfortable being provided for, then why not?
	I can afford it.
	I would probably inspire her to work just so I can see that there is some motive going in her future.
	I'm happy with mine.
	I live with my girlfriend and I provide for her.
	She has to carry out other things, and the man always provides for her.
	Okay.
	Hey.
	So, your guys' compared to the Russian man versus the USA men.
	Your reaction, go ahead.
	I mean, like, I mean, it's different societies.
	Russia versus the U.S. is completely different.
	Yeah, do you think American men should be more like Russian men?
	Well, I think it's just different.
	I think there's a lot women have a lot more, I guess, like I want to say freedoms.
	I feel like to do things that they're passionate about.
	But it's interesting because I feel like there's a weird, like, there's a standard for women here, but at the same time, there's like those same guys are saying, well, it should be 50-50.
	But they also probably expect that woman to like cook clean, raise kids.
	But I don't know.
	I feel like in Russia, it's just different.
	The woman over there, they don't, they're not like probably going to have the same opinion as me where they want to be in that role.
	Like, it was kind of like how we were talking about last time.
	I was like, hey, man, if you want to be a traditional wife, that is so your prerogative, but I don't want to do that.
	So, I guess in the U.S., it's just different.
	There's a little bit more opportunity to not follow a traditional role.
	Sure.
	What about you?
	Your reaction?
	I feel like it's kind of disappointing because I have dated guys that expect you to do everything and work.
	I've had to cook clean and work while also expected to be in a good mood 24-7.
	And so it's disappointing because society in America has changed.
	It used to be a little different.
	Now no one's getting married.
	And for the women who do want that, it sucks because, yeah, I would want a man I date to at least want to try to provide for me.
	I feel like with trying to ideally make the pathway to owning a house and having a stable life and family, it's really challenging to do that.
	And I don't want to be like in this economy, but in this economy, I feel like it's hard for it to really be only one person working.
	Do I think it's a hard balance to navigate?
	Because like I have days where I work my nine to five and then I come home and I'm super tired.
	Would I love a cute lady to cook me up a meal and just eat it and call it a day?
	Yes, I would love that.
	But I like take on those challenges in my own life.
	And I feel like it's just a really hard balancing act.
	In the sense of balancing it out in my life, I feel like I would like to be more of the homebody in a way.
	But do I think that's like possible in my life and how people view things?
	No.
	Okay.
	I think this is where it's hard because, like, as you said, it's different societies, right?
	They're completely different countries, so they have different standards for certain things.
	But I do think that the Russian mentality was actually kind of interesting because I feel like that used to be how America was.
	The man provides, and like he's the macho, and the woman, you know, does the cooking and cleaning, and my nail just broke off.
	My, um, uh, but I think that uh, I don't know, I feel like we should kind of adopt a little bit more of that, maybe not go fully to that extent, but like it doesn't have to be like fully 50-50 if that makes sense.
	Like, as the like, I don't know, I don't know.
	I don't know where I'm going with this, but I feel like I don't know, I'm not making any sense.
	I would 100% stay home and cook and clean and stay, like, take care of the kids if like my life was paid for.
	Would you quit OnlyFans?
	Yeah, if he was like rich, rich.
	What is rich, rich?
	Like, money, baby.
	Six figs?
	If he makes like seven figures a year, then yeah, I'd quit.
	Seven figures a year?
	I mean, what if he makes half a mil?
	Then, like, no, I wouldn't quit.
	That's $500,000.
	It's like top 1%.
	Well, good for him.
	But I mean, like, I'm not quitting because I'm also making money.
	Like, when we have kids, then yeah, I'll quit, but not right now.
	$500,000, you don't need to work.
	I don't care what city you're in.
	Okay, all right.
	I think the U.S. men are disappointing for the simple fact.
	I actually am married to a European, so I know that they actually do provide and they're like very sweet.
	And they always like, I don't really do much, so I like stay home and I do have like a part-time job or whatever.
	But I know that my man, like, he provides all the way and he makes sure that I'm like good.
	With an American man, it's just, I feel like they have a lazy mentality.
	And a European or yeah, a European man, they have like a like a hard work, hard-working mentality.
	So, wait, so do you have kids?
	I don't have any kids.
	You're married though, right?
	You're gonna have kids soon, or I want to, I want to have kids, but I don't know.
	Not in this society, not in this economy, nor society.
	Does your married though?
	Does your husband want kids?
	That's up for debate.
	What do you mean?
	You guys are married.
	What do you mean that's up for debate?
	It's the simple fact of the matter is, is like, I don't want to raise my children in this type of society the way that you can.
	What does he want?
	He wants kids.
	And you married him?
	He married you despite your talked about it, and I told him and I asked him, I said, do you mind if we don't have children?
	And he's so-so about it, but we are open to adopting.
	But in this society, wait, what?
	That makes no sense.
	Why would you be unwilling to have biological kids, but be open to adopting if the problem is the society?
	Okay, well, for example, she is adopted.
	Yeah, I'm sorry to point you out here.
	But there's a lot of children out in this world that don't have homes regardless of the situation.
	They don't have families to children.
	Adoption waiting lists are a mile long.
	If there's a 100%, 100% of children who get put up for adoption at birth are adopted.
	100% of them.
	Through foster care.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so you're going to take on fosterlings.
	Yeah.
	But why not have biological kids?
	Okay, so to add more children into this already overly populated world.
	The world's becoming underpopulated and underpinned.
	Oh, really?
	As of like this year or like in the last couple of years?
	Because honey, people be popping kids left and right.
	So our birth rate, our birth rate's at 1.6.
	It's been dropping like a rock since 1800.
	If you look at it globally, if you look at it globally, this is the case in all Western nations.
	North Korea is at, I think now it's at 0.80, I think, or even lower, 0.70.
	So it's not even one child per family anymore, which means they're going to go extinct as a people group, literally, extinct.
	Okay, but what, but when you look at this, when you look at society and when you look at like what's going on in the world and you see all the negative stuff that is happening for me, what negative stuff?
	Well, there's wars going on.
	There wasn't wars before when there was less population.
	But like the thing about it is, it's just like to, we all grew up learning, like for me, like I can't handle putting a child through this world that is already corrupt and evil as it is.
	It's almost like selfish to me in a way.
	Isn't that the opposite?
	Like, wouldn't the idea that if the world is corrupt, that if you have children, instill good values in them, that you're doing the opposite of what's corrupt?
	If I have children, we're moving into the woods and no one's going to know where we're going.
	No one's going to know anything about us.
	Yeah, but wouldn't that be a positive to society?
	To disappear?
	No, no, no.
	A positive to society to raise the next generation, right?
	But you have to think about it.
	Like the children now that are going to schools, especially on TikTok, I've heard like teachers talk about their children.
	Don't send them to school also.
	But here's the thing: I've heard teachers talk about their children, how their children are reading at like a fourth, first grade level, and how the like reading and mathematical skills are just dropping.
	I mean, I even asked like a family member, like, do you know how to like multiply?
	And they don't even know how to multiply or do addition or they don't even know how to read because obviously we have our phones and things of that nature.
	I don't want to bring children into this world where technology becomes their everything, if that makes any sense.
	I would rather put my children like why I don't understand this at all.
	You can govern all of that with your children.
	Yeah, but then it's like I want them to live life.
	And then how are they going to live life?
	Like if I shelter them too much, then they're going to go out and want to go out into the world very sporadic and spiral and do this and do that and get into bad situations.
	And I don't want that for a child because I've grown up in an environment where I've done sporadic and spirally things.
	And you wish your parents hadn't had you?
	No, I just wish that, I wish they would have raised me right.
	And that's what I'm afraid of.
	That's all I'm asking you.
	You just afraid you can't raise kids right or what?
	You're afraid you can't.
	I'm afraid that I can't because of the.
	So you kill your husband's dream of children because you're afraid that you're not going to be a good mom?
	Yes.
	That's fucking awful.
	That's fucking awful.
	Why would you do that to him?
	He can't have another wife to have kids with.
	But we can adopt.
	Yeah, but that's not the same as having your own child.
	You're replicating your DNA.
	Like, do you realize that for a man, for instance, right?
	No, nothing more that'll ever give him the sense of pride, like having a son.
	Especially a son who's accomplishing things.
	Or, or he didn't let me finish.
	Or what they get in exchange for having a daughter as well.
	So the thing is, is like there's a distinction here to be made between, well, honey, you know, why don't we just go adopt this other?
	He's like, why don't you give me a fucking kid?
	But the thing about it is, is like, I don't, well, one, I don't want to go through labor.
	Oh, there we go.
	Very extensive.
	That's what I thought it really was.
	You just didn't want to, because it'll damage your body, right?
	Well, no, I don't want, I just don't, I'd rather not have children in this lifetime.
	I'm not saying that hopefully, you know, in more lifetimes to come.
	I want to be able to at least give my children the best life that they can possibly have.
	How many wives does your husband get?
	Well, I mean, men get multiple wives every day.
	Like, they divorce their woman and they remarry.
	So you're planning on getting a divorce with your husband?
	I'm not planning on getting a divorce with my husband.
	Then the assumption here is you're going to be married forever.
	Well, the ideal is to be married forever.
	Okay, so if that's the assumption you're going to be married forever, who else can he have children with?
	Well, I mean, he could just put his eggs in a, I mean, his sperm in a cup and put it in the freezer.
	And then if I decide I want to have children, I will.
	But what about him?
	Could be.
	But what about him, though?
	Not talking about you now, not talking about everything that Princess you want.
	I'm talking about what about the king?
	What does the king get here?
	Does the king get to have a progeny?
	Does he get to have that?
	Does he get to have a child?
	He's still have a progeny with an adoptive child.
	He still has a kid of his, not of his own, biologically.
	The only thing you can give him?
	But that's the only thing I can give him.
	As a woman, I could give him the most of the time.
	That's the only unique thing that you can bring to the table as a woman.
	What else is unique that you would bring to the table as a woman?
	I think my nurturing spirit.
	What are you nurturing?
	You don't want kids.
	What are you doing?
	I can nurture him.
	What the hell are you nurturing?
	You can nurture him and treat him as a king and I am as a queen.
	I don't say.
	Why couldn't he get a barren woman and do the exact same thing?
	But that, I mean, Baron or no, Baron, regardless of the situation, a woman is still a woman.
	A woman is still nurturing regardless of the situation.
	Yeah, and they get a lot out of that.
	They get money, they get resources, they get affection themselves.
	The birth rate during the Great Depression was 2.1 children per woman.
	The current birth rate is below that, and women still refuse to have kids due to economic issues.
	Make it make sense.
	Yeah, well, I can actually explain why that happened, but we don't even need to dive into it.
	I'd just like to finish this real quick: this exchange.
	So, your husband wants kids.
	Your husband has the expectation he's only going to ever have one wife, and his one wife is refusing to have children.
	So, tell me, how is this a fair deal for your husband?
	Well, we both agree that if I don't want to have children or we don't want to have children, we can adopt.
	That's our agreement.
	That's how that's like not an ultimatum or whatever, but it's okay.
	I, before I even met my partner, I've always wanted to adopt.
	I never truly wanted to have children of my own.
	How many kids do you want to adopt?
	I want to adopt five.
	Okay, so why can't you give him three and adopt two?
	Three children or give him one.
	Can you give him one?
	One that's actually his?
	He can, but the thing about it is, it's like you, like, regardless of the situation, there's so many kids out there that need homes, including the ones he wants.
	Well, he doesn't know that yet because we don't have he does know it.
	He said he wants them.
	He, well, yeah, but he could have kids adopted or biological.
	It's just well, I can't have them biological without your participation.
	Um, sucks to sucks, I guess.
	You're gonna be for the rest of your life.
	I don't know what else to say besides, I want you to think that that's mildly horrible.
	I don't, I don't, I mean, if my, if he, if the tables were turned and he was like, okay, I don't want to have children, that would be horrible too.
	I would respect that, yeah, but that would still be horrible too.
	If you so think about it, if you if you were to think how unfair this would be, woman says, Okay, I have this small window, my 20s to my early 30s to have healthy children.
	Okay, that's my window, right?
	I get married young to this guy, 25, and he's like, Oh, you know what?
	I don't really want to have kids.
	You're like, But wait, my biological clock is ticking.
	That's what I want more than anything, is children.
	I want children, and you're not going to give them to me.
	He's like, Nah, baby, we're just going to adopt.
	You'd be like, What the fuck?
	I mean, the thing about it is, is like you don't really know when's the like limit for women to like stop having children.
	Yeah, we kind of do now.
	We do now 35 usually, yeah.
	Oh, that's and by the way, that's really not an optimal age group because it does so much damage.
	That's really late.
	You know, what's really funny is like, like you said earlier, like, I don't want to go through labor.
	The most hilarious thing to me is that women say, I'm going to wait till I'm 30 to start having children when it does the most amount of damage to their body.
	That's like hilariously backwards, too.
	We have like, you want to wait until you're in your 30s when it's going to do the worst possible amounts of damage to your body rather than in your 20s, where you can literally be back at work the next day.
	That's how easy it is on women's bodies.
	They're back at work the next day.
	It's not even a problem.
	They're designed to have children.
	Like, they're designed not to get wrecked in their 20s having kids.
	Yeah, but the thing about it is your 20s are for you to discover who you are and what you want to do in life.
	It shouldn't be like, oh, let's give me a business.
	He says who?
	You just made that shit up.
	Who said that?
	Your 20s are your discovery years.
	Your 20s are your family years.
	That's when you start your families.
	Yes.
	I've heard that, like, my father always told me, like, wait until you're 30.
	Well, your dad was wrong.
	Because you're going to wreck your body worse at 30 than at 20.
	I hope not because I've been exercising and getting myself together, but I don't think it's your skinny elasticity.
	It doesn't matter how much you actually have to do it.
	I mean, y'all don't know my body.
	I know my body.
	I'm just saying, like, I personally wouldn't want to have kids in this society.
	Okay.
	I do need to thank Bender the Offender for his TTS that came through.
	I don't know if you're still watching Bender, but thank you for the TTS.
	It was a good one.
	We have Lucas here with his message.
	If you can read it, Lucy.
	Come on now.
	Literally drove through a highway construction zone today.
	Three dudes with jock cameras, one dude operating a crane, and two other dudes loading pipes.
	And one dopey chick waving a red caution flag.
	Yeah, they do hold stop signs.
	I've seen that.
	It's an important job, you know.
	Why are you doing that?
	You gotta wave a stop sign.
	They held a stop and carry the powers.
	Of course, a robot will put them out of business.
	It's like we can figure out how to make one, you know, just pop a stop sign up every sequentially here and there.
	See, that's what AI should be used for, not generating woman with three moves.
	Going to you guys, the Russia versus U.S. reaction video, your reaction?
	Dang, I forgot.
	You guys were like going, and I started thinking about what you guys were talking about and then my thought.
	I think it should be.
	Oh, it was what you said about the Europeans.
	I agree with that because most of my sugar daddies are European.
	They weren't born here.
	They don't live here.
	So I get that.
	But I don't think a man can't be 100% financially providing for a woman if he's not making enough, which, you know, it can be hard with how we live today.
	Like, I live in San Diego.
	Like, the house down payment is $100,000.
	And that even is like barely, bare minimum.
	So I think I have to work to, you know, I wouldn't work as much as the man, though, but I would still work.
	Your reaction?
	My reaction?
	Honestly, I kind of, I don't know.
	I kind of like working, so like that wouldn't really matter to me.
	I don't know.
	I like doing it 50-50.
	You're fine with 50-50?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	We have another chat here from Meet the Kaiser.
	Thank you so much, man.
	By the way, let's get W's in the chat for Bender the Offender, W's in the chat for Libertariat, also Lucas, and Meet the Kaiser.
	Go ahead, Lucy.
	All right, Brian and Andrew, argue with me.
	The U.S.-Russian video.
	It's easy to interview 50 U.S. men, upload the 10 that simped, and then upload the Russians that didn't.
	Aren't videos like this misleading?
	Yeah, that's actually a good point.
	It seemed very selectively edited.
	And in addition to that, Kaiser, one of the other considerations is even, let's say, all the 50 men in the U.S. and all the 50 men in Russia, the Russian men gave answers similar to the other Russian men.
	The U.S. men gave the 50-50 answer.
	They could have also, like, kind of, there could have been some sort of bias when selecting who they go and approach.
	Like, one of those dudes sounded gay.
	And then they, so they picked, like, kind of more feminine or, like, the, whereas in the Russian one, they maybe picked more like masculine looking men.
	That could have been another bias in the thing.
	But that is a good point.
	They just simply like pick, they, they're going with the narrative.
	They were picking and choosing.
	There's probably U.S. men that you could interview.
	Although I think it would be fair to say that Russian men probably fall more in line with traditional gender roles than the reverse.
	Also, it could have been staged actors.
	Who knows?
	But I mean, just taking it face value, that's kind of where we were going with it.
	But do you have anything on that, Andrew?
	I mean, no, it's a fine point.
	It easily could have been selected that way.
	There was this, in fact, I saw a video.
	It was a UK company did this where they were basically trying to make Americans sound stupid, where they would ask them basic questions about American history.
	They couldn't answer things like this.
	And so a different American team went over to the UK, did the exact same thing back to him.
	It turns out that they're just as retarded, basically.
	Right.
	So, I mean, it's a good point.
	Yeah.
	And we have one more that just came through.
	So we'll get that one from Lucas.
	W's in the chat for Lucas, guys.
	Thank you so much, Lucas.
	Holy solipism.
	Solipsism.
	Go ahead.
	Thank you.
	Holy solipsism.
	The most fundamental biological imperative since time immemorial is to pass on his DNA and not someone else's.
	And yet, she wants him to relinquish/slash suppress his most basic human imperative.
	Thank you, Lucas.
	Do you have a response to that?
	First and foremost, I want to say I don't think I am relinquishing anything from him because we did speak about this.
	And I don't really think DNA matters that much.
	I mean, the question is, are you talking about like DNA as a legacy or DNA as just like you're saying it's a biological imperative that people have to pass on their DNA?
	It's just like everything that exists that's biological, that's alive, it has a biological imperative pass its DNA on.
	Okay.
	I have a question.
	Did he propose to you?
	Yeah.
	Did he already know your stance on children when he proposed?
	Yeah.
	There you go.
	Yeah, I mean, I guess if he accepted it, then...
	I mean, if he knows what's going on, then that's on him if he...
	Because we live in a scary world.
	At least to me, it's scary because I don't, like I said, I don't want to raise children in this environment.
	And if I do have children, I'm not going to, you know, I will raise that child, but just in the forest or something.
	I mean, isn't that a greater, wouldn't that be a greater call to action?
	Like, society is so fucked up.
	Like, you bring more children into the world to fix it.
	Right.
	Isn't that the call to action?
	That should be, but then, I mean, I'm not going to, you girls are so beautiful and you guys are gorgeous.
	But, like, to hear your stories and to be like, okay, I want to have daughters and then I don't know if my daughter's going to come out like at 12 o'clock at night and rebel against me or something like that.
	That's what I fear.
	And then my girls having OFs.
	Like, I don't, I don't, that's something that's scary to me, if that makes sense.
	Well, life is risk.
	Yeah, but like, it's just not that risky I want to take a parent.
	I want to be a good parent, but I like, like I said.
	Can I add to that?
	I feel like there is definitely a fear when it comes to reproducing, but I think that's kind of part of the rewarding aspect of it, of having children, is that you get to lead them in the direction that you think is like, you know, important and imperative to you and what your opinion is on that.
	You know, as like as people always say, like life isn't fair, and you don't know what's gonna happen to you.
	All you can do is control what you have control over.
	So, if you raise your kids a certain way, then they won't rebel against you.
	I mean, like, obviously, every human person is their own person, but I almost feel like you have more of a risk of that when adopting a child because you don't know what their biological tendencies are, what their genetics are.
	When it's your own kid, you at least know what to expect.
	Like, I'm almost done, but like, with me, I suffer from a few mental illnesses, just like anxiety, depression.
	If I have a kid, I know that there's a risk that my kid will also suffer from that.
	However, I can approach that with them and say, hey, kiddo, like you might go through something like this, but I'm there for you because I understand you because I am you at the end of the day, you know?
	I can do that with an adoptive child as well who's going through a lot of traumatic experience.
	Who here wants kids?
	Show of hands in the future or now.
	Don't want kids, don't want kids, don't want kids, don't want kids.
	Okay, and then this is for all of you, even though those of you who don't want kids, if you knew that your daughter was going to turn out just like you, would you want to have kids?
	Yeah, yes, no, okay, fuck no.
	Oh, yes, wait, yes, like me, but like not my life.
	Well, you said you don't want to have kids, but if she turns out just like you, then yes, you would.
	Because her whole argument was essentially: if my child turns out to be a fuck-up, I would regret it.
	So, that's one of the reasons I don't want to have kids.
	But if your child turned out to be, end up just like you, would that change your mind or no?
	No.
	Okay, continue.
	Oh, I don't know.
	Like, I'm not planning to have kids, but like, if I had a daughter and she ended up like me, I'd be pretty happy.
	Like, okay.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	My kid was like me.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Huh, that's interesting.
	All right.
	What's up?
	I wanted to say, with like the idea of 50-50, did you know that men are more likely to cheat on their wives when it's more of a 50-50 dynamic?
	And with that, I feel like that could perpetuate male loneliness.
	So, in a sense, like sticking to the traditional 100-breadwinner and chilling home, like, what do you guys think about that?
	It makes me kind of sad for men, but I would like to also work as well, in a sense.
	Wait, so, okay, 50-50 infidelity greater in men?
	I mean, it probably is greater in women, too.
	She's saying if it's a 50-50 relationship, they're more likely to cheat as opposed to if it's not.
	Yes, the men are more likely to cheat, but the woman would be more likely to cheat.
	It just wouldn't matter, though.
	The idea here is just if you were to have a dynamic where it was not 50-50 and it was more traditional with the man working, the likelihood decreases of him cheating.
	That's it.
	Even if the woman, it increased the likelihood of her cheating at 50-50, it wouldn't really matter to the stat, right?
	Okay.
	Was there a question?
	I was just wondering what my peer ladies think about that.
	I hadn't heard that stat before, so I haven't dove into it.
	It kind of makes sense, I think.
	I mean, if the male is not in a position where he can feel like, you know, he's top dog and he's the fucking alpha or whatever, you know, I guess that might make him feel inferior and maybe he needs to go, you know, cheat in order to feel better about himself.
	I don't know.
	That's from the male side.
	I don't know from the female side.
	It's just fulfillment.
	Yeah.
	That's the idea of opposition.
	Donated $200.
	Care 6.
	Let's see if you're full of it or not.
	I dare you to call your husband right now on speaker.
	Tell him you've changed your mind and want to have kids after all.
	Let's see how he responds.
	He is, he's European, so the most thing he will say is, okay.
	That's all the response you're going to get out of that.
	Is he German or?
	He's Polish.
	Okay.
	Polish.
	Is he here in Santa Barbara?
	No, we both live in Chicago.
	Okay.
	I mean, we can't really do that absent for getting like it's technically wiretapping.
	Of course he's Polish.
	We need to get permission.
	What is that supposed to mean?
	There's a series of jokes that start with.
	What did the blank blank, you know what I mean?
	I'm just saying.
	Just saying.
	I want to hear those jokes after the podcast.
	Okay, how do you get a one-armed Poloq out of a tree?
	You wave to him.
	There you go.
	Go ahead.
	You didn't.
	Go ahead.
	You wave to him?
	Yeah.
	Oh, I've never heard of that joke before.
	No?
	No.
	Whole series of Poloch jokes.
	You didn't know that?
	No, I don't.
	All right, Damien, we're going to do our next reaction here.
	So there is a famous actor.
	Can you pull up?
	What's his name?
	I already forgot his name.
	Is it Anthony?
	Anthony Taylor.
	Aaron Taylor.
	Aaron Taylor Johnson.
	Taylor Johnson.
	Oh, he's going to be a little bit more than a hundred react, please.
	Whatever the first one is.
	You're going to need to hide the put us higher?
	No.
	The video of us.
	Put it higher.
	Sorry, guys.
	Okay.
	Scroll down just a teeny bit.
	You push it.
	Nope, Up, Do you remember the instructions on this?
	It was the.
	No, scroll down.
	It was the relationship status.
	I need just the first three sentences visible.
	You gotta push it down one more, but you no, no, no, go up, go up, go up.
	There's little.
	There's little arrows on the side for the.
	That'll let you control it, the little arrows.
	At the very bottom of the scroll thing, I showed this to you before, there's a, you're right there.
	You're literally like an inch away.
	Just tell them to press down one at a time.
	There's a scroll bar.
	Well, yeah, but at the very bottom, there's.
	Oh my God, I'm sorry.
	He's just talking about the two-way arrows on the scroll bar.
	See, at the very bottom.
	I I went over this before the show.
	Oh, there you go.
	Keep going.
	You got it.
	Can you get it there, please?
	Yeah.
	Just the three, the top three sentences, dude.
	Up, There we go.
	No.
	One more down.
	Just one more down.
	There you go.
	All right.
	After Johnson met filmmaker Sam Taylor Wood in 2009 on set of their film Nowhere Boy when he was 18 and she was 42.
	The two began dating and were married in the chapel at Babington House.
	They changed both their surnames, blah, blah blah, two dollars, two daughters.
	He's a stepfather to Sam's two daughters from her previous marriage when he was 18, so they met when he was 18 and she was 42.
	Also, I believe she was like the director of some film.
	He was an actor on set Power Dynamic.
	Let's see the next tab over.
	All right, this is Aaron Taylor Johnson.
	Next next, he's next next okay, so this is, I think, when he was a bit younger.
	This is his.
	I don't know if they were just dating at this point.
	Maybe they were married.
	Next, that's the wife scroll.
	Uh okay next, all right.
	Next next next next okay okay uh, is there one more?
	Or is that next?
	I guess?
	Oh yeah, he has a tattoo of her name.
	Her name is Sam.
	I'm pretty here.
	Now that we're out of F11, you can check.
	Is that the last one okay?
	So what do you guys think?
	You think?
	I mean, so she met him 42, he was 18, I believe the articles yeah, 18.
	You guys think what?
	Do you guys think fair game or fair game?
	He seems happy, question mark, question mark, question mark.
	But there, I do know there was a whole like movement on the internet that was like hashtag, free Aaron Taylor Johnson, but he seems happy.
	I do think it's weird though, that her eldest daughter is only four years younger than Mr. Aaron Taylor Johnson.
	That is a little weird okay, your reaction, uh, I don't know.
	I mean, I don't know, it's that's their life and as long as he's happy in this situation, I mean, and he doesn't feel like he was groomed, then you know, but if he was groomed and maybe she was talking to him before he was 18, then I would that's what I had heard think that that would be more of a problem.
	I feel like like I graduated high school when I was 17 and not 18, but when I feel like I've grown a lot since those years and to be freshly out of high school in theory, if you were 18, like that, that is really discomforting to me and I guess it's legal, but myself I don't like to see that.
	Um, I think it really depends on the dynamic.
	I mean, I obviously my boyfriend's way older than me, so I can't really be against this in any fashion.
	Um, but I mean, as long as she's not like abusing him or anything like that, I think it's fine and they're both consenting.
	What's your age gap relationship?
	Um, I'm 20 and my boyfriend's 39.
	Okay, so 19 years yeah okay, your reaction?
	Oh, I think it's weird because like, when I'm like 43 or however old she was like, I don't think I could look at an 18 year old and be like, oh my gosh, let me get married to him, unless he's like.
	He looks like Aaron Taylor Johnson, I don't know.
	I'll drink a water, that man.
	Because, like, you're just so immature and, like, all of that.
	And it's just like, you're like a child.
	Like, nothing wrong with it.
	Like, go do you.
	But, like, it's just not something I would do.
	I'm neutral because like, I get your point, but I also get that they're both like, he's 18, so like, he could do whatever he wants, practically, type of the ordeal.
	Okay.
	I mean, I got with the 70-year-olds.
	My reaction, I think that he's 18, so he can do whatever.
	Now, let's just switch it.
	Sure.
	Let's go ahead and switch it.
	42-year-old male dating 18-year-old woman.
	You guys cool with it too?
	I mean, like I said, if I'm not going to judge one way that the age cap, like if I'm not going to judge an older woman, then I guess.
	I mean, frankly, I kind of do judge her a little bit.
	Because, like she said, like, I would not, if I'm 42 years old, I would not 18 years old.
	You might not, like, you personally wouldn't want to be a young person, but you don't blame her, though, right?
	Yeah.
	Like, if you were her age, right?
	I don't blame her.
	With that guy that you found sexy as hell.
	For real, seriously.
	And also, if I looked back at that, what would change at 42?
	That would make you less desirous of how that guy looked.
	Well, I don't know, but that's actually interesting that you say that.
	I think that there's definitely like attraction levels.
	I don't know if you guys have seen this.
	It's like a, I guess it's a statistic.
	It's a graph.
	And it was like the ages that women find attractive as they get older.
	Yeah.
	Women.
	That's what I said.
	You said women.
	Sorry.
	I think I just pronounce it weird.
	I'm not trying to say it with an A. In my head, there's an E there.
	Okay, I'm sorry, guys.
	Women.
	Women.
	I don't think that, oh, yeah.
	Basically, what the graph said was that as women get older.
	I don't need to.
	She did it all time.
	That was a little bit.
	She said woman, but okay, go ahead.
	Women.
	She said it right there.
	Yes, there we go.
	Women.
	Women.
	Okay.
	Dang.
	21 years of life, guys.
	And no one's ever corrected me on that.
	Okay.
	But anyway, as they got older, the attraction that they have toward other people, those ages also get older.
	But then with men, it kind of stayed in that Leo DiCaprio age of like 18 to 25.
	And I don't know, like, again, like, there could be some sort of bias on that.
	Absolutely.
	But generally, I think it's just less common.
	Like, that's, I think that's why the internet freaked out about Aaron Taylor Johnson and Sam Taylor Johnson is because that's just more uncommon.
	It's way more common to see an older man with a younger woman.
	Do I, would I judge it?
	If you find that guy attractive.
	Maybe, but why does my opinion matter?
	If you find that guy attractive right this second, what do you think will happen when you're 40 that'll make him less?
	No, but I mean, like, okay, attraction is one thing, but I think actually going after it is another thing completely.
	But if you're attracted to him, why wouldn't you go after him if he's interested?
	Well, I also, I mean, go after it, but then remember how we were talking about like last podcast, we talked about would you want, would someone, would a man find you more attractive in 10 years, 20 years, 30 years?
	And the kind of consensus that we came up with was no, a man would not find me as attractive.
	So it's kind of one of those where I could be attracted to somebody for sure, but would they even want to get with me?
	Like, that's kind of a rare situation.
	I don't think they do with the what would make you less attractive to him when you're 40.
	I don't know.
	I think ideally by 40, I'm already settled down.
	Yeah, but if you're not, what would actually be?
	That still wouldn't have anything to do with the attractive level.
	Yeah.
	I mean, that's why I said, like, I, like, who am I to judge?
	I, you know, whatever.
	People can do whatever they want to do.
	I just, I could not with someone who's older than my dad.
	Crazy Ace.
	Thank you for the gifted 20 subs on Twitch.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Thank you so much.
	W's in the chat for Crazy Ace.
	So what about a 42-year-old man dating an 18-year-old woman?
	You fine with it?
	I think it's the same as the reverse.
	I think that as long as she wanted it and she was going, if she was going after him and he like when at the end of the day, if you're pursuing someone, you're pursuing someone, if it's consensual, and again, like the guy isn't like manipulating to groom someone, same with the woman, because women can do it too, then I don't, it's not my problem, it's not my life.
	If they're happy, that's them.
	Well, here, let me make this a little easier.
	So, before the show, all of you filled out questionnaires.
	There's a question on it, which reads, Is it wrong for a 30-year-old to date a 19-year-old Lucy?
	You said yes.
	I said yes and no, I'm pretty sure.
	Did I say all the way yes?
	You said all the way yes.
	Mizzy, you said yes, it is wrong.
	Ruby, you said it's wrong.
	Mandy, you said no.
	I can't read your Kenna, you said you didn't answer it.
	Oh, I don't think it's wrong.
	Okay, is it weird?
	Maybe, but it's weird, but it's not wrong, I guess.
	Yeah, L, you said no, Naomi, you said no, Riley, you said yes.
	It is wrong for a 30-year-old to date a 19-year-old.
	I think it just depends.
	Like, like I said, there was no in-between answer for that one, so it just depends on the circumstances.
	So, what are the circumstances?
	Like I said, if it was consensual, if it was like there was grooming involved, which often happens at that age, but that would be wrong, regardless of age, right?
	But it just happens more often if people are younger and they're not fully developed yet.
	Well, assuming does it?
	I think it probably happens a lot more often with people who have a distinct power dynamic difference, right?
	So, it wouldn't really matter, right?
	It wouldn't really matter the age, ultimately.
	So, like, if there's a 24-year-old millionaire and there's a chick who works at Starbucks, right?
	That would that would just be this same idea of like a power differential, right?
	And that's what everyone's bitching, really complaining about is that there's some type of like power dynamic.
	You said freshly out of high school, that means you're naive, or freshly 18, it means you're too dumb to make these decisions, right?
	Uh, but I don't really understand that because it seems to me like your chances of running into people around your same age group who can do these exact same things to you actually are much higher-like significantly higher, in fact.
	So, I've just never really understood that argument.
	I just feel like there's like a mental difference too between someone at age 30 and someone at age 19.
	I know that even in the last two years of my life, I've gone through tremendous amounts of change.
	You know, your frontal cortex doesn't start developing until you're like 20, 21.
	So, like, yes, it does.
	Your prefrontal cortex does develop before that.
	You're talking about the full development at 21.
	The full development at 25.
	I mean, maybe this is just my experience, but I genuinely feel that like one year ago at 20 years old, I had not anywhere near the amount of mental clarity that I do now.
	So, if I had made an informed decision, like getting married to somebody, I might not feel that way right now.
	So, that's like so.
	Why should you vote at 18?
	That's actually such a good point.
	But I think that that's like because that's how that's a good point.
	That's a good point.
	But I'm not the president, so I gotta ask.
	So, I just gotta ask, like, ultimately, the truth is, every couple I've ever known, one's really much smarter than the other most of the time.
	Interesting.
	Most of the time, one is much smarter.
	I wanted to research this out, so I went looking.
	I was like, now, you know, everybody has their biases.
	It could be that it's just the types of people that I'm around, maybe.
	Maybe it's a function of the Midwest, even though I grew up in California.
	Maybe it's something like that.
	So I took to the one place where you can always find answers which are completely unbiased and always correct, which is Reddit.
	I knew you were going to say that.
	But the reason I use Reddit threads a lot is because people often will source data that you can't find by Googling.
	Google will bury results.
	Reddit, these like little tweaker, you know, methadic Adderall head.
	Do you need a question answer?
	Yeah, they're up there for like five hours a night just with one cigarette and coffee, just typing away, right?
	They actually will have some pretty good sources.
	So I went and started diving into this.
	What was interesting in the thread one was how many women were asked, Do you think your husband, do you are you in a position, like a white collar position with a degree in your husband's blue collar?
	And who do you think is smaller almost or smarter?
	Almost everyone on the thread was like, like one was like, look, I'm a doctor.
	My husband's a mechanic.
	He's way fucking smarter than me.
	Then you go down the list and I was like, actually, it actually kind of makes sense, right?
	And then when they started posting the sources for this, it started to make sense too, right?
	So women like to punch up.
	They like to punch above their weight class when it comes to dating, when it comes to marriage, when it comes to they don't really want to be equally yoked, right?
	So maybe it could be that there's some cases where there's a financial offset, like I have more money than you, but maybe the man surpasses you in every other capacity and that's enough, right?
	I'm not saying in all cases or even most, but at least in some.
	But it kind of reaffirmed my bias a little bit that, and the more people I talk to, hey, look, most couples aren't really that on par with each other.
	They don't really have similar interests all that often.
	And that seems to be fine.
	Seems to work fine.
	Like I love video games.
	Wife fucking hates them.
	Doesn't give a shit about them.
	Right.
	Likes to see me play them, but she doesn't care about him at all.
	Yeah.
	You know, sorry, I thought you were dead.
	Graffito tanked donated $200.
	Woman.
	Well, man.
	She was a thief.
	You got a belief.
	She stole my heart and mine.
	Yo, thank you, Graffito.
	Thank you, Graffito Tags, for the TTSWs in the chat, guys, for Graffito.
	Good to see you back in the chat, man.
	Thank you so much for the TTS, man.
	But anyway, just to cap it off, right, so I don't ramble.
	I'm just saying that there could be a variety of reasons for it.
	I haven't got through all the data yet, but it does seem to be the case that women tend to, married women anyway, tend to report their husbands as being smarter than them.
	Interesting.
	It is interesting.
	Yeah, I feel like it's like when you're looking for a partner, you want to look up to them.
	You want them to be somebody that inspires you, that makes you feel secure if there's someone who has their shit together.
	But I don't know.
	I mean, one thing I've learned, especially from being on this podcast, is that my opinions are very different, I think, than the average woman.
	No.
	See, that's where you're different.
	Unfortunately, you're not a unique snowflake.
	And I would say that your opinions are just like most women.
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah, because I think that I would want to be on par intelligence-wise with my partner, ideally.
	Oh, but this goes actually, as I was going to say, this goes back to what we mentioned earlier, and then we didn't really dive into it.
	But you said something about is it wrong or right for someone to want something in their partner that they themselves do not have?
	And I feel like it really depends, but on something like intelligence or on something like traits, like I almost feel like no, because if it's something that you like, something that inspires you, then like you would want to be surrounded by that.
	Like I might want to be with somebody who like knows how to sail because I think that's cool.
	And then boom, we'll sail together because you'll teach me that sort of thing.
	People like to be taught.
	Yeah, but all you're doing is reaffirming gender roles.
	So wouldn't you want to be around men who are good at construction?
	Wouldn't you want to be around men who are good?
	Wouldn't you want to be around men who are good at all these things that you have a deficit in?
	Yeah, well, then you're just reaffirming.
	Then wait, I just want to let you know, you're just reaffirming gender roles.
	You're just saying everything I feel that there's a lot of people.
	I can understand why I'd want to be surrounded by the things I have a deficit in.
	It's like, well, in this case, then what would masculinity be?
	It would be the offset for the things you have a deficit in.
	Right?
	But also, like, I also feel for me personally, I like being around people who I like the version of myself that I'm presenting when I'm around them because I inspire them too.
	They look up to me in certain ways.
	Like, maybe, I mean, like, I have a few friends who, like, I really enjoy being around because they genuinely listen to everything that I have to say and they really appreciate my advice or my skill or my knowledge on a subject.
	And I think that's super important too.
	I don't want to be told what to do all the time.
	That's different than a mate.
	That's different than that.
	But I kind of disagreed, though, because ideally, your partner should be somebody that you have that baseline friendship with.
	So it's kind of like, yeah, there could be some traditional gender roles there, but I want my partner to teach me things, but I want to teach them things too.
	Like, that's the beauty of having a connection with somebody.
	I mean, I don't know.
	I guess it depends on the person to person.
	I can't.
	Do you want to teach him emotional intelligence?
	Yeah.
	No, ideally, my partner is already emotionally intelligent.
	Like, really, what do you want to teach a man?
	Well, I think that that's kind of the beauty of life is you don't know what to expect.
	And I might.
	I'm just asking you right now: what do you want to teach a man?
	I don't know.
	Maybe about some literature, maybe about philosophy.
	You're going to teach him about literature or philosophy?
	Yeah, I've had a few relationships that were like that.
	You know, he maybe had like a larger vocabulary than me, but I was more well-read than him.
	It was like interesting like that.
	Like, you know, there's like different things where you can connect on something.
	I don't want to learn about something I don't care about.
	You know, so it has to be something that I'm already somewhat.
	What literature were you teaching men?
	I'm not like giving him a class.
	But like we like read books together.
	Like I would read out loud for him.
	Like it was.
	I was like, can we do that?
	Yeah, it was cute.
	No, not about having him.
	We would like sit in the park and like he'd rub my feet while I was reading the book.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Oh my God.
	I love green eggs and ham.
	Wait, can I read it like a Nicki Minaj rep?
	Yes.
	So we all stop off here.
	While she's getting back on, let me read this chat.
	Lucas, YoW's in the chat for Lucas Boys.
	The hubis, oh my God, hubris of recency bias.
	My old man grew up in Nazi-occupied Greece, but today is scarier.
	You really ought to read C.S. Lewis's 1941 Weight of Glory sermon at Oxford University St. Mary's Church.
	Is that for you?
	I have no idea.
	I think that was probably for me.
	Oh, I see.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Lucas.
	All right, someone give me a beer.
	Go ahead.
	That's Sam I am.
	That's Sam I am.
	I do not like that.
	Sam I am.
	Do you like green eggs and ham?
	I do not like them, Sam I am.
	I do not like green eggs and ham.
	Would you like them here or there?
	I would not like them here or there.
	I would not like them anywhere.
	I do not like green eggs and ham.
	I do not like them.
	Sam I am.
	I was like, slam poetry, guys.
	We don't have so much fun.
	Would you like them in a house?
	Would you like them with a mouse?
	I do not like them in a house.
	I do not like them with a mouse.
	I do not like them here or there.
	I do not like them anyway.
	This was a terrible idea.
	Terrible idea.
	Terrible idea.
	I enjoyed that.
	Thank you.
	I was like, it's because nobody laid me a beat.
	That's why.
	Sorry, we didn't figure.
	We have to figure out the nickname Minaj beat.
	Wait, Luffin the Mongols.
	I think wanting to read with your partner is cute.
	It's like, thank you.
	It's something that attracted to me.
	My ex, who you were kind of brought this up, but he, now I do want to date a man with a job.
	And not because I used to not care.
	I used to be like, oh, it doesn't matter.
	But when you date someone without a job who's not providing, and then they resent you because you are doing all those things, it's just not fun.
	And then you resent them.
	And it's just not a good dynamic.
	But anyways, what I did like about him, though, was that we had these common interests.
	And he was like, oh, like, let's read and then we can have like a book club and read to each other.
	It's corny, but it's not the other book.
	I don't know, yeah, dating someone that can teach you things.
	Like, I would have never fucking read a book, but since he wants to read a book, I'm like, I guess I could read a book, you know?
	Okay, that sounds like he was teaching you stuff.
	Well, I would want to teach each other stuff.
	Like, I taught him too much to where, you know, he resented me for it.
	So, what did you teach him?
	Just like, oh, this is not going to sound good.
	He just, we were following the same passion, and I think that it came a lot easier to me than him, and he resented me for that.
	And he let me.
	What was it?
	Music.
	Music.
	So bad that he kept my vocals in this song that he did not credit me for.
	Oh.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	And I wrote and didn't, I didn't get writing credit either.
	Oh.
	Anyways, it's not, it's just like there was a, he didn't have a job.
	Like, you know, I was really good with his kid.
	He resented me.
	He did drugs.
	Like, you know, like, obviously, I broke up with him.
	But, like, it's just now I have standards.
	And, like, but you have to sometimes go through things to learn what you need because I wanted to have this mentality of, oh, if I just, I shouldn't care about money.
	And I'm not saying I need to date a rich man, but I do want to date someone who can provide for me and that cares about something.
	Like, you know, it's not attractive to date someone who just doesn't care.
	Did you say that he stole your art?
	I mean, technically, if we want to get technical, but he's not going to, he's not, it's not going to, you know, it's cool.
	It's not going to be released yet.
	We have a message.
	What's his address?
	Nah, he doesn't have to.
	We have a message here from Libertariat.
	Go ahead.
	21 years of age and never been corrected on proper grammar.
	Lucy is the definition of pretty privilege.
	So you think I'm pretty?
	Oh my God.
	No, I think that we have made this clear is that when I am saying it maybe incorrectly to you, in my head, I am thinking it with the E. I'm not.
	Wait, which camera are we looking at?
	I'm not a dumbass.
	Okay.
	You have a question.
	Please say that.
	Yeah, if you have a question, you just say that.
	Speaking of pretty privilege, Gorlock asks, ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to.
	Wait, did we not show that Super Chat?
	It was under the special.
	Oh, okay.
	It was less than.
	Oh, okay.
	Got it.
	I didn't see that.
	Ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten.
	Go ahead.
	Well, per the last time that I was on here, I'm a four and a half on a good day, is what I got from that.
	Your own rating, go ahead.
	I think that, I think, you don't need to give me.
	What did you say last time?
	I said I was a 10 last time.
	Go ahead.
	Negative 15.
	Girl, what?
	Are you okay?
	That's what the people want to hear.
	Yeah, just you can't, you know.
	I'm just terrible.
	I'm a terrible person.
	Like, I don't know why anyone would want to date me.
	Like, I'm obviously single for a reason.
	You're really good at this.
	Life is musy.
	I might believe you if I didn't know Benny better.
	Life is miserable.
	Yeah, what's the actual answer to the question?
	I guess like a seven and a half.
	I did some research before I came here.
	And I'm just going to say seven.
	If you had not done your research, what would you rate yourself?
	A seven.
	Still a seven.
	Still a seven.
	All right.
	Why did you feel?
	Yeah.
	Why the qualifier of the I did the research?
	You guys were like, don't pick seven, though, because all the girls wanted to pick seven, but then going in a line, everyone followed to the 6.5.
	But I seven true.
	What?
	Okay.
	What about with the ears?
	Eight because it's fun.
	Yeah, but does that raise the rating?
	Yes, I went one up and said eight because it's fun.
	Okay.
	Those all the ears raise the scale.
	I give myself four or five.
	Okay.
	I'll just say five.
	What about you?
	I give myself like a eight.
	I'll say a nine.
	Just because.
	Just because what?
	Well, this is not how I normally dress up, so.
	So normally you're a ten?
	Oh, well, I will be in the future.
	But you said normally you don't dress this way, so does that mean you rank yourself lower or higher?
	No.
	Well, yeah, just because like I have like a little insecurity issue, so I normally rate myself like a five, but since I do my makeup and everything and get dressed up, I would say a nine.
	I see.
	Okay.
	Today, yeah, I feel like a six.
	Yeah.
	What'd you feel like yesterday?
	Yesterday, I didn't wake up with pimples and I felt like a 10.
	Like, depends on the day.
	It just depends on the day.
	So normally you feel today, right now, you feel like you're a six, but normally you feel like a 10.
	A 10.
	Okay.
	It's the acne that gets every time.
	Oh my gosh.
	I say I'm an eight.
	All right.
	Andrew, what about you?
	10.
	Andrew's a 10.
	I give myself a 5.
	Wait, what are you laughing for?
	I'm not.
	What are you laughing for?
	Because I've seen this bit so many times.
	I'm trying to say that I'm not a 10.
	It's ridiculous.
	I mean, you look very presentable.
	Very presentable.
	That doesn't sound like something you'd say about a 10.
	Something you'd say about your grandfather.
	You look very presentable today, grandma.
	Maybe I can take you out.
	Maybe I can take you out to the pier and get you an ice cream cone today.
	Yeah, Haroline's okay.
	You need some metamucil?
	This is the same hairline I had at 20.
	It's a good hairline.
	It's very good.
	A lot of older men.
	Men are most likely for rhinoplasty.
	And then hair surgery.
	Like, those are their two.
	Like men for surgery, they're most likely for a rhino plasty.
	Sorry, Mike.
	For a rhinoplasty and then a hair transplant.
	Yeah.
	Like, those are the ones they tend to do the most.
	Rhinoplasty.
	And a gastroname.
	What the?
	Yeah, nose job.
	Ah.
	Well, and guess that, but really, do men do that a lot?
	Right, we don't say guess that when you were like, oh.
	No, no, I was saying, oh, to the other thing, which I also did not know what that meant.
	I knew what a rhinoplasty is, but I was curious about men getting rhinoplasties because I don't know if I've ever heard of that.
	Yeah, they do.
	Really?
	I guess it's just the doctors do a good job.
	You don't notice.
	All right, going around the table then for all these above average looking women.
	Do you think much above average, by the way?
	Yes.
	You only have the most beautiful women in the world.
	I'm on this podcast.
	Mine guest recruitment is second to none.
	Do you think men will find you more true?
	Sorry, fuck.
	Scratch that.
	Hold on.
	In 10 years' time, do you think you'll be better looking, Lucy?
	Starting with you.
	You're 21.
	do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years at 31 uh what do you think Answer the question, please.
	Okay, no.
	Let's just go there.
	All right.
	Yep.
	Mizzy, you're 29, better looking in 10 years' time at 39.
	Absolutely not.
	If I was 21 and then you said 31, I would have said yes.
	Oh, well, so going back 10 years, do you think you're better looking now at 29 than you were at 19?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	100%.
	All right.
	You're 20 better looking in 10 years' time at 30?
	Yes.
	Better looking in 20 years' time at 40?
	No.
	Okay.
	You're 20 better looking in 10 years' time at 30?
	No.
	Okay.
	You're 19 better looking in 10 years' time at 29?
	Oh, yeah, I think I will.
	Better looking in 20 years' time at 39?
	Probably not, no.
	You're 23 better looking in 10 years' time at 33?
	Yes.
	Better looking in 20 years' time at 43.
	Yes.
	30 years' time at 53.
	Yes.
	40 years' time, 63.
	Yes.
	50 years' time, 73.
	Yes.
	60 years' time.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Continuously?
	Yes, that's what I did last time and they every year I'm getting hotter.
	I mean, every day I'm getting hotter because every well I take NAD.
	Now, NAD supplements, that that's one of those that doing a lot of NAD is a supplement that helps you stay young.
	It's like a TikTok thing, but I have the oh well, then I know it must work.
	What does it do?
	So there's there you can do IV or you can do pills, and right now I'm taking.
	You can shoot it up, you can, you can inject it or you can.
	They're gonna shoot NAD and it's gonna keep you young.
	Well well, no exercise, exercising and obviously eating like the appropriate amount of, like foods, like healthier vegetables fruits, all that crazy jazz like.
	I want to be able to look healthy and feel healthy.
	I've even heard a woman.
	She used to garden and she looked way better than her husband.
	Her husband was like 79 and she was like no no, she was like he was like 50, 60 and she was like 40 yo.
	Crazy thing for the gifted, 50 subs.
	Go ahead, thank you, thank you.
	Basically, she like had her own garden and she ate from her own garden and she was very youthful.
	She looked really, really young compared to her counterpartner, her husband.
	So I think I want to like start gardening.
	So that's why I said yes to everything, because when I start gardening and make my own fruits and things like that, i'm i'm producing it myself.
	Oh my god, who the hell?
	Sorry, I like zoned out like five seconds, totally irrelevant right now.
	Uh crazy, w's in the chat?
	For crazy is for the gifted, 50 subs.
	Uh, so just you'll, just to be clear.
	Uh, you'll be better looking at 99 than you are now at 23.
	Yes, 99 year old, you would punch you in the face.
	Well, and no, there's some really like like um hot, 99 year old men that and woman that walk around, oh my gosh they're they're, it's you for their age, 99.
	She's either trolling or dirty.
	I'm not trolling, i'm not being delusional.
	The supplements will make her look good.
	No, I believe a hundred supplements are getting to her brain.
	But like in your body though, it's what you put in your body, and like drinking, you know, champagne and alcohol, that will kill you very slowly and it will age you.
	Yeah, just so you know um, there's some Asian nations which have the longest lifespans that there are, like Japan, for instance yeah, where they mostly eat a, you know fish rice, clean diet.
	There's reporters who went over there and went they.
	They thought kids were trolling them when they asked what are your favorite foods?
	And they would say things like broccoli stuff, like this instead of chocolate.
	And when they asked about it, the answer actually made sense.
	The parents said, well, you know why would we want them to like unhealthy food?
	We teach them to like healthy food.
	But at 100 years old they're still fucking ugly.
	So I don't know what you're talking about.
	I mean, i'll be dead by 99 because the the okay, at 89 they're still fucking ugly.
	At 79 they're still fucking ugly.
	Like what are you talking about?
	I will say you'll be a way hotter 99 year old than me.
	So that's true, but I think you're not gonna be prettier at 99.
	I'm sorry, i'm not.
	I'm not saying that.
	I mean, well, times will change, food is going to change, everything is changing as we go.
	So you, we never really know.
	But I believe a hundred percent in my soul, in my heart, that I will look a lot better, not just like physically, but like yeah.
	But to answer the question is about your physical.
	Well, as long as I look slim, I know I, i'm sure at 99 your soul will be beautiful here looks okay, what i'm asking?
	What i'm asking is not about your beautiful soul and your beautiful mind, but the externality that people see.
	Do you think objectively at 70 that that's going to be as well I don't know um visually appealing for people as it would be at oh I don't know 25.
	i mean there's cosmetic surgeries now like cosmetic enhancements here hold on let me let me try to clarify this we need to surgically figure out how remove cope from women's brains like Wait, so okay.
	If we were to, oh boy.
	Kaiser, I'll get into it in just a sec.
	Thank you, Kaiser.
	So if we were to just, let's say, plastic surgery, like I could see that through improvements in AI, maybe there's like artificial intelligence doing like cosmetic surgeries in the future.
	There's new kinds of therapies that can actually like change your aging.
	and reverse aging essentially.
	There's all kinds of different therapies that are being investigated right now.
	Perhaps, yeah, maybe in 50 years, this actually could be a very realistic possibility.
	And it could actually be the case when you're 99 because of said therapies that you could conceivably be better looking.
	In fact, you could perhaps even totally change your appearance with these sort of these inventions.
	But that doesn't really get to the crux of the question.
	So excluding these kinds of therapies and assuming the what is readily available today and these therapies are not available.
	Do you think given the realities of aging and the impact it has on your skin and wrinkles and so forth, do you think given that you'll be more attractive at 99 than you are now?
	Yes.
	Can I ask you a question?
	Honest question.
	Yes.
	Can you just give me your definition, not no dictionary definitely, just your definition of the word cope?
	Cope?
	Cope.
	To cope.
	To cope is like to like manage like your I want to say emotions.
	Total trolls.
	Total trolls.
	I'm not a troll.
	This is this is literally look.
	I'm from Chicago, okay?
	It's just more likely to die.
	Oh my god.
	Trolls aren't in Chicago or trolls are everywhere, but like the thing about it is like.
	No, no, no, no.
	Hold on.
	Let's just offer her the plastic surgery.
	So the whatever podcast will offer.
	And the crucible will split it.
	We'll offer because we will give you, we will have you go do plastic surgery procedures to age you.
	Yes.
	We will pay for it fully and we'll throw on, we'll give you an extra $2,000 for your trouble.
	We'll pay for you to go get plastic surgery that makes you look like a 99-year-old.
	But you have to keep it for the rest.
	You can't undo it.
	I mean, it depends on how, like, are you going to add more wrinkles?
	Are there going to be more wrinkles involved?
	Yes.
	Oh, you know, like that thing that 99-year-olds do if they have wrinkles, right?
	You guys are, I think you're taking my yes out of like this, like the context.
	I, no matter what.
	What's the context of the yes?
	The yes is, even if I'm going to have wrinkles no matter what, I still am going to be my health.
	I think you misinterpreted the question.
	I'm not asking if there's a potential where you could still be attractive at 90 years old.
	Okay.
	That's not the question.
	The question is, at 90 years old, are you going to be as good looking as you are right this second?
	Right this second?
	Well, I believe so.
	Yeah.
	Well, then if that's the case, then why, then why not take the corrective surgery to add all the wrinkles and shit, and we could just age you forward to 99.
	I mean, I wouldn't mind.
	I'll still get hit on by like young men and all those crazy chads.
	Why would you want to get hit on by young men and crazy chads when you're married?
	Yeah, you're married.
	But like, regardless of the situation, no matter if like, if you're old or young, men are, men are men.
	I mean, young men are.
	What in the name of what the fuck are you talking about is going on here?
	My husband would want you to have the surgery to make yourself look older right now today.
	He doesn't have a choice.
	You're so pretty.
	You don't need to age yourself.
	That's crazy.
	You know, that's not real.
	You don't want to look 99.
	But I think you guys are not understanding.
	You're right.
	Your soul might be- I'm maybe not understanding the question because like I'm looking at this as an overall like- We're talking superficial.
	Wait, why- Why super?
	Like, I'm not a superficial person.
	That's the question.
	That's the premise of the question.
	I'm not a superficial woman.
	Do you think Andrew will look better when he's 99 than he does right now?
	Lady.
	All right.
	Can I just ask you?
	Crazy Ace.
	Thank you for the gift of 20 subs.
	Thank you, Crazy Ace.
	Okay.
	You see the amount of beer that's in this cup.
	You would say that that's not a lot of beer, right?
	I mean, it's a little, in my opinion.
	Yeah, it's not a lot, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, it's almost gone.
	Now, how much beer is in the cup?
	None.
	But what about the beer's soul?
	What about how the beer felt?
	What about how the beer feels about how much left in the middle?
	Wait a second.
	I can't see your soul either.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So I just want to know, real quick, if you can help me out with this.
	We're not asking how you're going to feel.
	We're not asking about your soul.
	We're not asking about the internal beauty of what you will be at 99.
	We're just asking this.
	Are dudes going to want to fucking bang you more at 100 or right this second?
	Real simple.
	Real simple.
	And I'm answering your question very honestly.
	You asked the question and I said yes.
	Wait, some men would want to bang you more at 99?
	No, no, no, no.
	I'm talking about the age.
	The age of 10.
	So which age are men going to want to bang you more at?
	Well, I hope to the ends of my life.
	I don't know.
	More, more.
	More.
	What does more mean?
	Pick a year.
	Okay, pick a year.
	Okay, tell me what the word more means.
	Okay, but you have to, like, okay, first and foremost.
	First and foremost, you would have to understand, like, okay, we have to talk about the age demographic of a man.
	What do you mean?
	Between if a man, if I, let's say I was 30, something any fucking man on planet would he prefer to bang you at 100 or 25?
	Well, that would depend on the man, though.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Okay, hang on, hang on.
	I agree.
	It would depend on the man.
	There could be some sick fuck out there who wants to go and they want to dig your corpse up and have it away.
	But what I'm asking on average, just on average, the amount of average men, average, just the average.
	Okay.
	Do you think that average men would prefer to bang you right now or at least?
	Average average man, like, what's the age demographic?
	Whatever's average.
	I don't know the average.
	That's why I'm asking you.
	I don't know the average of age.
	That's why I'm asking you.
	That would be all ages.
	The average man who's within all those average, all those men who are in every single individual age, 20, 21, 22, 23, all the way up to 99, and all the averages that exist across that whole board, do you think more of those men, more of them, would prefer to bang you at 100 or 25?
	Then no.
	Then no what?
	No, they would not prefer to bang me at 109 or whatever the age is.
	Thank God.
	I'm going to go out a cigarette.
	Fucking finally.
	You guys are so interesting.
	You just never know.
	That's like a 0-0-0.
	Would you prefer your husband at 100?
	Do you think he'll be more attractive?
	Well, you guys are talking about this on a superficial level, though.
	That's the point.
	But if he got aged to 100, would you want to fucking be real with it?
	So to be realistic, I'm unsure.
	I don't know my partner's mind like that.
	So I can't clarify.
	Just analyze the people who are going to be able to do that.
	Would you think you're attracted to him if he was 100 tomorrow?
	I mean, I was attracted to men who are 50 years old, and that didn't stop me from sleeping with them or anything of that nature.
	Losing brain cells on this one.
	Meet the Kaiser donated finale.
	Thank you, Kaiser.
	Pop champagne.
	Last donation until 2025.
	Thank you, man.
	Got to save for holidays.
	I'll get it.
	Ryan, happy new year.
	Andrew, Merry Christmas.
	Ladies, be good and learn something tonight.
	And my 10-tenths friend, Lucy, love you, girl.
	Keep chattering.
	My fingers.
	Guys, my first nice comment.
	No, my second.
	My second.
	Oh.
	Don't clip it.
	You're fine.
	Wait, can you read that again?
	That feels so nice.
	Yo, Kaiser, thank you so much, man.
	Do really appreciate it.
	Look, if you manage to make it to our show on Tuesday, that's going to be a doozy.
	But do very much appreciate your patronage tonight.
	He'd sent in the first champagne pop, too, right?
	Right?
	No, it was someone else.
	It was banana.
	Banana.
	Kaiser just sent a lot of money.
	Where's brown banana?
	We need brown banana in the chat.
	You know who I miss?
	I miss Ryan, who was trolling me all last episode.
	Where is that guy?
	He DM'd me afterwards, too.
	That is cool.
	Thank you for sharing that.
	You're so welcome.
	Did you smash or what?
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Everyone who DMs me, guys.
	Did you guys shake this?
	Oh.
	That was a joke, by the way, for all the trolls.
	Hold on.
	Oh, fuck, bruv.
	Nope.
	Was that it?
	I was weak.
	It doesn't even want to come off.
	Okay, scuffed.
	All right, thank you guys.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you, Kaiser.
	Do appreciate it.
	I'll let Andrew know that.
	What the fuck, bruv?
	It's not.
	Bruv.
	Did you twist the thingies?
	Yeah, I twisted the six times.
	That's weird.
	It's not opening.
	That's embarrassing.
	You need a big strong man to get it for you.
	Probably.
	Probably.
	All right, Liberty.
	I'll get it in a sec, man.
	The champagne ball's scuffed.
	What barriers prevent men from forming meaningful romantic relationships with 25% of young men reporting they have never been in one from Technotrooper.
	Thank you.
	W's in the chat for Technotrooper.
	W's in the chat for Meet the Kaiser.
	Also, anybody?
	I have a take on this.
	I think that things like OF and corn sites are kind of contributing to men just being like, oh, well, I can get everything I need right here.
	So why do I need a real woman, you know?
	I don't know, that just seems, that's pretty much it.
	I don't know.
	That just seems like makes sense.
	Well, they're also like going after people.
	I have guys in my DMs all the time.
	They're like, I just want to have a meaningful relationship.
	I'm like, this isn't Tinder, love.
	I'm sorry.
	And they expect and they have an unrealistic expectation for what's going to happen in the bedroom or in real, like with a real woman.
	Rather than a video.
	They don't know how to ask women out in real life because it's all through Tinder now.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Exactly.
	They go to OFAs.
	They don't know how to ask a girl, you know.
	Yeah.
	Thinking arrangers.
	Yeah, I loosened that shit.
	I loosened it for Andrew.
	Champagne, champagne, champagne?
	Yes, yes, please, yes.
	She said.
	Oh, fuck.
	I poured it in my goodness.
	Hey, Brian, are you enjoying your drinking of alcohol this episode?
	I'm sure I.
	Yes.
	I am very much enjoying it.
	Is it just beer that you don't like?
	Oh, my God.
	I need it.
	Okay.
	I'm so sorry.
	Ooh.
	It's all good.
	It makes me go back to how gender roles have changed, though, because the more as women are trying to make a stand for themselves, men are sort of losing their place and purpose in the idea of being the big, strong man of the household.
	And so I feel like with these changes, we need to change how men see the idea of masculinity.
	So my question to you is: what is masculinity for you?
	Masculinity to me.
	Bro, don't spill that.
	Push it.
	It would be.
	Oh, she didn't even finish it.
	Whatever.
	Give it to me.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Keep talking, guys.
	Yeah, keep talking.
	I'm trying to think of how I would define masculinity because there are lots of things that overlap with femininity.
	Like being supportive and taking care and contributing.
	Everyone in society should contribute and be helpful to you guys.
	Are you guys struggling with this question?
	I have an answer.
	What?
	No, it's okay.
	We lost our house for like five minutes there.
	I'm not talking.
	Yeah, what barriers prevent men from forming meaningful romantic relationships?
	25% of young men reporting they have never been in one.
	I mean, there's hoflation.
	That's why you said a lot of hoflation.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I've been talking about culture.
	That whole thing.
	But also short form media, like that's killing attention spans and spurring on addictions.
	That is very true.
	I can't even lie.
	I do OnlyFans and I hate romantic.
	Like, well, I just, I don't like it.
	Like, I don't know.
	And I'm not a romantic person.
	Like, are you talking about bringing flowers and like getting flowers?
	Like, I like getting flowers, but like, when it comes to talking and like, you know, thing, I, like, I just want like a best friend type of thing, you know?
	It's beautiful.
	So romantic.
	All right, Libertariat.
	You can cheat on him.
	Libertariat says, I'm from Chicago, is really just a nice way of saying, I think marinara bread, bowls, or pizza.
	That's not that bad.
	Yo, Libertariat, thank you so much, man.
	W's in the chat, guys, for Libertaria.
	Show him some love in the chat.
	Thank you for all the support, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	And let's.
	Oh, age.
	We have.
	Oh, wait.
	We got to wait till what's her name's back.
	Is she you coming back or what's up?
	What's up?
	Oh, sorry.
	I was just trying to figure out what time this ended because I thought it ended at 8 instead of 200.
	Yeah, it definitely doesn't.
	She said it doesn't.
	So I was trying to.
	When does it?
	Just curious.
	Sorry, I didn't know.
	Whenever they're finished.
	I was reading through my message about the book, like the boat coming, and I'm trying to see if I could see a time.
	But there wasn't one, so.
	I'm delusional.
	Wait, that's weird.
	I thought you did a bunch of research for the show, but you didn't know how long the episodes usually go.
	I see them at like three hours about five hours.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Where?
	Our last one was on YouTube.
	Eight hours.
	On this YouTube channel?
	That's crazy.
	No way.
	Are you watching the clips or are you watching like the full season?
	The clips aren't three hours either.
	No, clips are like 20 and 30, maybe.
	They're usually five minutes long.
	Clips are usually like 30 seconds to a minute.
	We're going to do a cheers.
	Wait, you two have to get a banana each.
	A banana.
	What?
	That's how you guys are cheersing.
	Oh, okay.
	That's good.
	Banana, banana, banana.
	I don't like the ones out the fridge.
	It's like normal.
	It's fine though.
	Why do they look like that?
	We've been here a while.
	Why did I look like that?
	No!
	You want a new one?
	Girl, just keep on a cute one.
	You want a new one?
	What the fuck is a cute banana?
	One that I would want to put on one.
	Why are you opening it the opposite way?
	That's what I mean.
	It's primitive.
	I said the primitive is crazy.
	That is amazing.
	All right.
	Kaiser was the one who so generously.
	Generously.
	Is that general?
	Yeah, generously.
	Genuine.
	Generously, Kaiser, thank you very much for the champagne pop.
	Cheers to Meet the Kaiser Southern.
	Oh my god, girl.
	Salute, salute the banana.
	Ew.
	Glad I finished.
	All right, put it back up.
	Put the back.
	I don't like bananas like that.
	Wait, can I have a bite?
	Oh, no.
	I want an orange.
	You wanted an elvish banana.
	Yeah, like a green one.
	Thank you, man.
	All right.
	This is some GMO banana.
	Let's.
	There you go.
	They're all GMO bananas, otherwise, they would have seeds.
	Yo.
	And they're too separate.
	Are these freshly farmed grown?
	Let's go ahead and do the reaction.
	Nothing is anymore.
	Bro, I look ugly as ship.
	You'd make a hot milk.
	I don't like this.
	By the way, whoever does these, can you should try to get straight on?
	You should try to.
	I just like to like this is her side.
	This is her side.
	Yeah, you really can't see anything.
	And my side is early.
	Anybody in the crucible watching wants to send in a revise where it's forward-facing, forward-facing?
	Do we have two, Damien?
	No, just.
	Okay.
	All right, next.
	Oh, wow.
	Wait, you guys love me, huh?
	Next.
	Gross, I know.
	I'm scared.
	Mommy.
	Somebody didn't do their homework.
	Somebody didn't do their homework.
	You're like a white woman all of a sudden.
	Change his races.
	Whoa.
	You look like one, though.
	I don't want to fucking kiss what you said.
	Definitely a bad kiss.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Oh, my God.
	They didn't dirty.
	You're about to start singing in Detroit Rock City.
	Who did this?
	Also became white.
	All right.
	Nice.
	You look like an almond mom.
	No, they didn't get me.
	Wait, we skipped?
	Do we have a skip?
	Y'all look so mean.
	You look the same.
	You look exactly the same.
	Yeah, it's true.
	Black menu.
	Oh, she looks so bad.
	You look really good.
	You remind me of Milana Trump.
	No, she looks really pretty.
	You look like you're about to take something back to the store and really give a talking to that manager.
	My nails is not good.
	It looks like you're going to hit me with a chonkla.
	I'm not even Hispanic.
	What?
	You're not going to be a man.
	I'm literally black and white.
	Okay.
	They make you look like Sweeney Todd.
	How is like sideshow Bob?
	Next.
	Yep.
	That's the most accurate one yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	There it is.
	Somebody else might send some through.
	We did miss the lady.
	Unfortunately, the most important one that we should have ate.
	Sorry, you can't get me.
	Don't you?
	She's like the one who here.
	Look right at the camera and smile.
	Right at the camera.
	No, no, look right at it.
	Here, this camera right here.
	Look into this camera.
	Look at it.
	I am showing it off.
	Sorry, get it face on.
	Get the side profile.
	We're going to see her at 99.
	You guys want to see me at 99?
	Trust.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	So if you get your garden, they'll find it.
	They'll get it eventually.
	I still want to do a gardening.
	You still want to do a gardening?
	I still want to do, I still want to have my own garden.
	Sorry, I said it like the grammar so wrong.
	All of us tonight, man.
	Me want garden.
	All these damn women.
	Wait, so Mitzi, gum to your nose.
	Damn woman.
	What?
	You guys done?
	Yep.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Mizzy, going to your notes, you said you think, or I think, well, you think, men should be providers in most scenarios and plural woman should not have to pay.
	I said on the first date, was that all we were talking about?
	There's no specification here about first date, but so only first aid and then no, I think that men should like, well, I date traditionally, right?
	Like I think that if you're out here like using men for dates and whatever and you don't really have any intention to marry, then that's different.
	But if you're dating to like for marriage and like I do feel like because of what I've like been through and like dating men with no jobs who didn't support me, it does give me a different kind of feeling towards it.
	I do want someone who's like yeah, like taking me like to dates and showing me why like I should pick him and like you should pick me too.
	But I don't know.
	I think, yeah.
	But I also want to work.
	I work really hard.
	So I have no problem with helping out.
	But I think in the beginning, I did want someone to court me, but I'm not like someone who's like.
	And so, okay, piggybacking off what you said to the whole panel, she said, I think men should be providers in most scenarios and women should not have to pay.
	Do you guys agree?
	So should men be providers?
	Should men pay for first dates?
	I think it really depends on what is the nature of the other things that the woman is supposed to do to make up for the fact that she's not providing.
	Like if you're meant to take on all these other tasks, I guess, I don't know.
	I think probably answer the question.
	All right.
	I said yeah at the end, I guess, sure.
	Should I always start with the yes or no, then the qualifier?
	Yeah, that'd be helpful.
	Thank you for the tip.
	Yes, I think men should pay for the first date.
	Otherwise, I always tend to split with the guy I'm dating.
	Or we just sort of do, I'll buy you.
	Have you ever split?
	Have I ever split?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	I think men should provide.
	I don't think they should be the sole providers.
	I think that women can contribute as well.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Sure.
	Yes.
	On the first date, yeah.
	But it depends on who like start.
	Oh, it depends on who like initiated it.
	Like if I initiated it and I said I wanted to take you out to eat, then I would pay.
	But if you told me you wanted to take me out to eat, then I think.
	Have you ever done that?
	No.
	But I would.
	Like, I do it for like my friends.
	Like, if I tell them I'm going to go eat.
	By the way, just so you know, with men, if they call one of their buddies up and they say, hey, man, you want to go have lunch?
	Can you guys go out and you have lunch?
	They will fight over who pays, regardless of who invited who.
	We will fight each other to the death.
	To the death.
	I've done that with my boyfriend.
	What about you, Riley?
	I actually usually always pay, which is bad because I end up getting used.
	I feel your girl.
	Okay.
	But I mean, yeah.
	So while we're talking about shoulds, Mizzy, you said men should be providers, women should not have to pay.
	Just curious, those of you who said men should pay for first dates, will you take who here wants to get married?
	Everybody?
	Everybody.
	Are you going to take your husband's last name?
	Oh, that's such a good question.
	I feel like yes if it's a good one, if it sounds good.
	If it doesn't sound good, no.
	Well, you're.
	Okay, so but you're kind of like okay with 50-50, it sounds like.
	Like you don't care about the guy being because I want to work.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Will you take your husband's last name?
	Of course.
	Okay.
	Even if it's a bad last name?
	I don't care.
	Okay.
	Sure.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	I think I would do a hybrid, like one of the, like, where I just have both names.
	So I just have both last names.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I would.
	Yep.
	I would do a hybrid, a hybrid name.
	I have two last names right now.
	So yeah, I would want to change that.
	Change it to what?
	Change it to when I get married.
	To his fullness.
	Okay, and then kind of some of you said men should be providers, men should pay for first aids, men should be traditional, blah, blah, blah.
	But like you won't take the last name.
	That's kind of interesting.
	Let's talk about other should claims.
	Should women cook and clean?
	Yeah.
	Like as their duty, in the same way that it's a man's duty to be a provider.
	I can hear her mind going, no!
	I can hear everything melting like water.
	I will cook all the meals if they clean.
	I think, but also we established earlier that I don't mind being fixed.
	Look, I guess, why is it okay for women to say men should pay for first aids, men should be providers, men should protect women, men should even sacrifice their life for their woman?
	I think we agree on that.
	And that doesn't seem really controversial, but it's not okay for men to say women should dress modestly or women shouldn't go out and party or women should cook for men or women should be virgins.
	That was so many questions.
	Yeah, that was a thing to make it smaller for a tiny little woman's brain.
	It was like you guys put all these shoulds on men, no objections.
	You wouldn't even consider this sexist.
	You would not consider it sexist to put any should on the man.
	But the moment men put shoulds on women, you guys lose your fucking minds.
	Misogyny, insecure.
	Really?
	You don't think so?
	I wouldn't yell misogyny because of that.
	I just, I wouldn't want to have to do all of the cooking and cleaning.
	Yeah, but let me ask you something.
	Please.
	Honest question.
	Let's see if you can.
	I just want to make sure, right?
	I actually want your honest answer on this.
	So you're with a guy, you really like him.
	You've been dating for a while, right?
	He has a lot of that chivalry thing you like.
	He has all that charisma.
	He's just like, he feels like he's the one.
	You're walking down the street with him.
	Some other random guy, half his size, reaches over and grabs your ass.
	Is that boyfriend you're with going to turn around and knock him the fuck out?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But also, I wouldn't want someone to insult my guy.
	I'm not afraid to hate him.
	Is he risking?
	Hang on.
	Is that guy risking his life, though?
	I guess depending on if that person had, like, a knife.
	The expectation, then, is that if your honor is in any way sullied, if your honor is sullied by somebody else, your expectation is that this guy risks his life for your honor.
	You can't cook his fucking dinner.
	No, I just said I'll do all the cooking, but I think that I don't want to date a sloth.
	Like, what's his life worth?
	I don't want to date a lazy sloth.
	And also, I'm working in the middle.
	Okay, but you're changing it around to lazy sloth.
	If the guy's working, let's say, even if you are.
	Even if you're both working.
	If we're both working the money.
	Yeah, let's just say you're both working.
	But if you're walking down the street, some other dude grabs your ass, and you expect that your boyfriend turns around and lays him low, you're actually asking him to put his life on the line for your honor.
	I mean, I think expect is a strong word.
	Would I be mad if he did that?
	Absolutely not.
	I would be like, oh, bullshit.
	Now you're changing it right now.
	Now you're changing exactly.
	But also, like, if I didn't win, I just want to make sure I got this right.
	You would not be upset if another dude.
	No, I would not be upset if the other, if my boyfriend knocked the guy out, but I wouldn't be upset with him if he didn't.
	Yeah, you would.
	No, I wouldn't.
	Then why did you say it was?
	How do you know that I wouldn't turn around and smack the guy myself?
	It's because of your own answer.
	Your own answer was that you expected him to do that.
	That was your answer.
	Well, you put the words into my mouth, kind of.
	How?
	Because you said what?
	Am I asking you a question?
	I mean, sure.
	You, hang on.
	All I did was ask you the question.
	You said that was your expectation.
	Now, let's assume for a second.
	You're right.
	Let's reverse it.
	You clock this guy.
	And because you're 96 pounds, it does nothing to him.
	All right.
	I can pack a punch.
	Say it again.
	Come on.
	Andrew, don't make me want me to come over there.
	So you're going to turn.
	You're going to turn over.
	You're going to punch this guy in the face and he laughs at you.
	Okay, then my boyfriend does it.
	Then your boyfriend has to laugh.
	I don't have a boyfriend.
	Hang on.
	What does your boyfriend have to do then?
	There's no have to.
	I don't like that.
	What's your expectation?
	You should be a lawyer.
	What is really good at like your boyfriend is good at defending.
	You'd be a really good prosecutor.
	I always fucking hear this.
	But anyway, what's the expectation?
	Ideally, I'm not even in a position where my man will let anybody get within an inch of me.
	Right.
	Why?
	Because your honor is worth it.
	But if some girl came up to my boyfriend and grabbed his like, you know what?
	I deck her too.
	Maybe.
	And then that way his honor is at stake.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Hang on.
	Maybe, unless that chick looked fucking super rough, it could look like she could fucking knock you out.
	Maybe they're not.
	I'm not afraid to lose a fight.
	But the thing is, the thing is, is like, even if that's the case, right?
	He doesn't need you for that.
	He could remove her from the situation in seconds, whereas you cannot remove him from the situation in seconds.
	I'm so tired of this.
	Okay.
	Oh, my God.
	Women are so weak and we can't defend ourselves.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm just going to say that.
	I'm just going to totally say that.
	Instead of saying, I'm going to actually get with what you're saying, Andrea, I'm just going to mispronounce woman on night.
	And then never answer any questions.
	So let me give you a personality.
	I'm a god.
	Let me tell you.
	So my partner and I, we're both a 50-50 relationship, okay?
	Yeah, fucking right.
	Okay.
	Yes, we are.
	No, you're not.
	She cooks and I clean.
	Okay.
	You should come to my house.
	I don't believe it.
	I would love to invite you to my house and you can actually see besides the point.
	No, no, no.
	It's not that it's a 50-50 relationship because he does the dishes and you clean the house or vice versa or whatever.
	It's not a 50-50 relationship.
	Well, I think that's what I'm saying.
	Because always one partner.
	Financially.
	Always one partner is bringing more to the table than the other every time.
	Financially wise, my partner is bringing more to the table.
	But without the aspect, he cooks.
	I clean.
	He does.
	My husband.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	What?
	My husband is.
	No, My dad cooks all the time.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Hang on a second.
	My husband is.
	My husband, my fiancé.
	My husband.
	No, no, no.
	Why did you say fiancé?
	And then we got a problem with the ring here.
	What's really going on here?
	Oh, my God, God.
	The turntables.
	My husband.
	I am married.
	I just want to make sure.
	I just want to make sure.
	Are you actually married?
	Okay.
	How are you married?
	Married.
	Legally through papers.
	Married.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	But we haven't had a wedding or anything yet.
	Okay.
	Wrongful rage donated $200.
	Thank you, Ridge.
	What I had learned from this panel is that succubus are real, and I'm scared for my son.
	Plus, I would trust Andrew with the dead care of Lucy's roofing skills.
	That would be so cute.
	Rage.
	Thank you so much, Rich, for the teaching.
	But anyway, back to your question.
	W's in the chat for Ridge.
	Yeah, back to your question before we went off on the side tangential.
	The thing about it is, that's what I'm saying.
	Financially, my partner brings in more, okay?
	But we're not, I'm not, let's take out the financial aspect of this conversation.
	Okay.
	Okay, let's talk about, for example, cleaning and cooking.
	Okay, so my partner, he cooks.
	It is my job, because he provides the food, I have to provide that The second part of our relationship as to cleaning the dishes.
	So, my thing is, I well, you ganging up on my girl Lucy over here, so I got to defend her a little bit.
	Come on now.
	You got to get that sisterhood in there.
	Look, get into it.
	Look.
	Because you, it really depends on the type of relationships that you see.
	It really, really depends.
	You can't, we can't truly pinpoint like, oh, so-and-so does this amount of chores, or so-and-so does that amount of chores.
	You have to, it depends on your.
	Oh, no, I agree with that.
	You have to, like, so I would have to just counter with this.
	Just a simple question, right?
	Okay.
	You'll probably lie to me, but I'll ask it anyway.
	You're crazy.
	Okay.
	At night, it's three o'clock in the morning.
	That window breaks.
	Someone's crawling in.
	Who's going in?
	Me?
	Both of us.
	Yeah, here's the thing.
	Here's the thing.
	But here's the thing.
	It's so fucking embarrassing when you guys need to be able to do it.
	No, no, no.
	It's so embarrassing for you.
	I don't think.
	Here's the thing.
	I was raised around a lot of like males.
	I was raised around a lot of boys.
	So I'm like, I'm already heightened to if something were, if someone to, if someone were to break into our house, I'm already getting up together.
	So he's sleeping through it.
	No, we're both getting up together.
	We're doing it together.
	But that's the thing.
	It's together, though.
	It's very much together.
	Why can't it be together?
	Why can't we both get up at the same time at three o'clock in the morning when an intruder comes in?
	Why does it have to be only him that goes?
	I'm asking who's going to be the first to confront?
	Well, that would have to be.
	It takes it.
	Okay, so let me give you another little story time.
	There was a car crash in front of our house.
	We woke up.
	We both woke up at 3 o'clock in the morning.
	I was the first person to go down actually downstairs to see what actually happened and what was the cause of this accident.
	My partner.
	Yeah, that's a different part.
	But my partner was, but like, I'm just trying to say, the whole objective is stranger danger type of thing.
	Like you basically said, if someone were to break in at three o'clock in the morning, who would be jumping at the door to, you know, swing a bat or whatever?
	I'm just giving you my analogy that like, hey, sometimes it might not always be the guy that jumps to it and sometimes it's always the girls.
	You never really know in that situation.
	Yeah, you pretty much know.
	Not really.
	Like, I mean, sure, sure, the guy, sure, the guy is the one that is expected to be the one.
	Crazy Ace, thank you for the gifted 20 subs.
	And then Crazy Ace, it's not letting me pull it up.
	But about 10 minutes ago, I think you sent in, it looks like 50 subs.
	Yo, Crazy Ace.
	Is it Crazy Ace or Crazy Ace?
	Thank you so much for all the gifted subs on Twitch tonight, man.
	You're fucking legend.
	W guys, W's in the chat for crazy ace.
	Thank you so much, man.
	Go ahead.
	I lost my train of thought now.
	I think it's probably more realistic that the man will be the first to jump up.
	Of course.
	Chris donated $200.
	Whenever these girls claim that they can fight a man or they are as strong as men, Brian should bring out a new jar of pickles and ask her if she can open it on her.
	Can you open a jar of pickles?
	Dude, no.
	However, wait, wait, but I don't think I'm going to go.
	But you can roof a house.
	I can roof a fucking house.
	Wait, dude, let me do 25 million push-ups in the next five days in the hood.
	Chris, if anybody wants, I'll fucking, yo, Chris, thank W's in chat for Chris.
	I'll door dash fucking jar of pickles.
	I'm going to have to do that together.
	10 jars of pickles, though.
	Yo, I'm going to get, I'm going to door dash it.
	And then we got Libertariat Barbie.
	Thank you for your double blind anecdotal study.
	And also, Dariel Frank Castle said you're lying about this like marriage thing or whatever.
	Tell him you come meet me at my house and we'll check because I don't lie.
	All right.
	Wait.
	Do you do OF?
	No, I do not.
	I thought you said you did.
	No, I don't do OF streams on social media.
	We have Tone Police Patriarchy.
	Brian and Andrew, or Lucy Goosey.
	Go ahead and read it.
	Brian and Andrew, proud of you both.
	Your ability to tackle tough subjects with candor.
	Is that how you pronounce it?
	Engage in good faith logic and carry conversations forward expertly, both highly commendable and professional.
	Yo, Tone Police Patriarchy.
	Police Brian.
	Tone Police Patriarchy.
	Thank you so much for the Streamlabs message.
	Guys, W's in the chat for TPP.
	Are you down with TP?
	Okay.
	No, no, no.
	Never mind.
	Wait, I can't open a drawer pickles and I might not be able to fight a man.
	However, however, however.
	A man's not going to expect me to deck him and nothing can surprise you.
	There's nothing like the element of surprise, baby.
	Okay.
	What if he does it back to you?
	Then that's not on the ground.
	I don't know what to say.
	No, I'm on the ground.
	He already slapped your ass.
	What if he just slaps your face?
	It's going to be like a Looney Tunes fight, dude.
	I'm going to be like, woo!
	I'm just going to walk for strike.
	I could run fast, yeah.
	Do you want to do some Krav Maga on Desmond?
	What does that mean?
	Desmond, my security guard, do you want to try to do?
	Oh, no, not the poor.
	Oh, poor Desmond.
	Wait, do you want to try to take him down?
	Dude, yeah.
	Arm wrestle do it.
	Arm wrestle.
	No, guys, we all know what's going to happen.
	Do you want to arm wrestle?
	No, because we all know what's going to happen.
	He's just going to need a smoke.
	Hey, if I give you 20 bucks, will you rig it?
	Can I win?
	I'm just kidding.
	You might take that up.
	Hey, Desmond, take her 20, bro.
	Vanessa, bro.
	You can lose on that one.
	We have Techno Trooper.
	Who has done speed dating?
	If you haven't, would you W's in chat for our boy Techno?
	Thank you so much, man.
	Who has done speed dating?
	Show of hands.
	Who's speed dated before?
	Do they still do that?
	Would they?
	Yeah, would you do speed dating?
	No, speed dating.
	Sounds kind of sucky for the dude.
	It would stress me out and it would be so awkward.
	Although, have you guys, maybe this is a bit more modern?
	So this is a bit more modern.
	I've seen all these stories of you have these like singles events.
	So it's not speed dating, but it's singles events.
	And they're typically court, what's it called?
	Organized by women.
	Men don't show up.
	Men don't go to these.
	Yeah.
	Or maybe it was the speed dating stuff.
	Men just like have realized like what happens on in speed dating is pretty much not as severe, but the same thing that happens on dating apps.
	The women are going to gravitate towards like the top 10% men there.
	And these men are just going to get like rejection after rejection, except it's worse because they're in person.
	That's an assumption, though.
	You don't know.
	How is it?
	What do you mean it's an assumption?
	It's true.
	Because you're going to not go to something because you expect something will happen.
	Well, I know.
	Life is mysterious and beautiful.
	Well, women can move through life that way, but men have a very good understanding.
	Well, what about the women?
	Shut up and stop interrupting.
	Sorry.
	So men have a very good understanding of where they fall on the pecking order because of women's.
	I'm not saying women are wrong for this, but like we can't.
	No, no, no.
	I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	No, women reject men.
	And we know where we stand.
	That's why us as men, we can't be like, yeah, I'm a 10.
	We know where we stand when it comes to women.
	Andrew said he's all our delusion.
	Yeah, and just trolling on you.
	He's mocking you.
	It's total mocking.
	That's true.
	So you guys, because you guys all can get sexual access from men that would never commit to you.
	So you can deal with men who are like outside of your league.
	And then you start getting confused as to, oh, what's my actual league?
	So you start thinking, well, I can sleep with this guy.
	So maybe this is how attractive I am because this is how attractive he is.
	Doesn't really work that way.
	That's not really what your league is the men who will give you a ring or commitment.
	And so there's just a total differential there.
	Most men know pretty well going in what their experience is going to be on dating apps or if they go like most men, their experience, like when it comes to approaching a woman, like 95% of the time they're going to get rejected.
	That's sad.
	I'm not going to be able to do that.
	It's sad for you guys.
	I get.
	Remember that statistic earlier that someone's TTS were about how 25% of men, I guess, or people, men under 25, I don't remember what it was exactly, about how they haven't been in like a substantial relationship.
	I wonder if it's because they're so afraid of rejection that they don't go to events like these single events and that sort of thing.
	You don't know what could happen.
	Yeah, and the expectation on men is that they're the ones that need to approach, so they're going to be the most rejected.
	Yeah, that's their approach.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	So that makes it makes sense.
	Oh, oh my gosh.
	Funny story.
	I pushed back one of my fingernails because they're kind of grown out right now.
	You can't see.
	And it ripped off like my actual nail.
	Not all the way, but like a substantial amount.
	And it hurt like a mother trucker.
	I got a 900 milligram Advil, though, so I'm back, guys.
	We're good.
	And you're mixing it with alcohol.
	And now I'm mixing it with alcohol, guys.
	I'm about to get glitter tonight.
	I know.
	So I'm sending it slow.
	Yo, Richard, to Richard Ritchie, I know you sent in a super chat, but one, it's just below the threshold for us to read, but we can't display it just because it's inappropriate.
	But I'll do you saw it.
	I'll read the part that I can read.
	Elfiers, you are clueless.
	He's going broke to tell you what everyone I can't read the other part, dude.
	It's just TOS.
	Who?
	Do you want to?
	Oh, you took them off?
	Who's Elfiers?
	Who's Elfiers?
	No, wait.
	She was never wearing Elfiers.
	Yeah, she was in.
	Okay.
	Wait, somebody, what was you saying about rejection or something?
	I think it was.
	Oh, I said like most men are more likely to be like rejected because they're the ones that approach, because they're the ones that are expected to approach and they approach.
	Wait, so what, or no, Luce, Lucy, you were saying like something about men.
	Oh, men under 25 haven't been in like a substantial relationship, which is what was brought up.
	Whoa, Someone's like text to speech that statistic.
	And I said, I wonder if that's part, like partial, like that reason is partially because of the fact that men don't go to events like singles events because they have a fear of being rejected.
	Which is fair.
	Like, I don't blame if you really do believe that you have a higher chance of getting rejected.
	Like, I understand why you wouldn't want to jump, but you miss every shot you don't take.
	You know, the singles events are heavily inundated with men.
	Very few women.
	Wait, but he just said it was the other way around.
	I just said the opposite.
	Yeah, I was thinking so.
	What's going on at the moment?
	They're heavily inundated with men.
	And usually it's like there's three or four or six women or whatever, and then the men do the round table.
	The girls are fighting.
	I mean, at least that's all the ones that I've seen.
	I've seen a lot of reports that these like single events that are organized by women, speed dating, whatever, men just aren't showing up anymore.
	That's what I read.
	I think I read something similar.
	That could be the truth.
	I'm just saying from what I've seen of them.
	It's the other way around.
	Now, the only ones that I've ever seen have never been in person.
	They're always the online ones.
	But that makes sense, right?
	Most everything is online.
	And what I've seen is that it's usually a few women and then a shitload of guys who show up.
	It's giving frat parties.
	They get rejected.
	It could also be that because it's online and those guys are showing up, they don't feel as bad as they would in person being rejected.
	Because they can just log off.
	Log off that much.
	But you can't say that women have never been rejected.
	I've been rejected plenty of times.
	Oh, you're right.
	By who?
	By people.
	Oh, yeah.
	But people who are wanting, because you were right about like, oh, like, someone will sleep with me, but won't date me.
	Well, I've been rejected.
	Everyone's rejected.
	Everyone's been rejected.
	Everyone's been rejected.
	Yeah, but the difference is women will be like, I remember I saw TikTok recently, and this woman got she's like doing this rejection therapy challenge.
	And she's like, she's like, my goal is to get rejected 30 times.
	I saw that.
	It's an Asian woman, right?
	Yeah.
	So she's two of 30 in her rejection therapy challenge.
	Mind you, she's made multiple TikToks about this.
	The two rejections that she's counting towards the 30 total are like rejections from like months or years prior where it was like she shot her shot.
	One of the guys she ended up dating eventually.
	And I think the other guy she ended up dating, but they rejected her initially because one of the guys was interested in different women.
	In any case, the difference between rejection between men and women is, while I'll grant that women get rejected, although it tends to be very different and very different experiences, you as women, maybe you get rejected.
	You can remember all the times you've been rejected.
	Men have been rejected hundreds, if not thousands of times.
	Have you been rejected a thousand times in your life, Lucy?
	No, but I don't know if I've shot my shot that many times.
	Right, men do, though.
	They have to.
	If they don't, just an honest question, right?
	We can see if we can frame this properly so that we're not talking past each other.
	Raise your hand here if you're a woman and you've ever propositioned a man for sex and he told you no two.
	Oh, wait, yeah.
	Okay.
	Wait, you're not counting like the boyfriends just not in the mood, right?
	Right.
	No, I'm not counting.
	Oh, no.
	Talking about you're approaching a guy at a club, something like that, and you're like, hey, I'd really like to sleep, whatever mannerism you do that.
	And they've been like, oh, no, you know, I just prefer not to.
	Yes.
	Two.
	But to be completely fair and to validate your point, it was because he couldn't get it up.
	Wait, hold on.
	Wait, so you guys.
	Not my boyfriend.
	Not my boyfriend.
	That means he wanted to.
	That means he wanted to, but physically couldn't.
	That's not.
	Oh, my God.
	That's not even what I'm saying.
	I don't know.
	Well, okay.
	I guess that's not rejection.
	I guess you're.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	That was stupid.
	What?
	Like being physically incapable?
	I don't think that's a good idea.
	Well, I feel like in his mind, he was not attracted to that.
	I feel like he wasn't physically attracted to me.
	That's why I called it like a rejection because I felt like he wasn't attracted to me.
	So it's like, so up here.
	No, you know what?
	That's a true crime in this country.
	I feel so bad.
	So just to be clear.
	Why'd I have to go silent after that?
	You guys are talking so much.
	I can say one thing that's stupid, and everyone stops talking.
	So to your point, to your thing, your anecdote, the guy approached you?
	Well, no, so it was on a dating app.
	So we had talked on the dating app, and we were like...
	And then you went to his house?
	Yeah.
	So he invited you to his house to have sex?
	Yes.
	How did you, I understand you walked it back, but I'm just confused how you arrived.
	Yeah, that's the opposite of rejection.
	Did you hear his question?
	It was just like, have you propositioned?
	Like, I get you can have bad sex.
	That doesn't mean you're rejected.
	I'm just confused.
	I think in my mind, I was doing stupid autistic math.
	I was thinking because like he was like not attracted to me, like in his mind, like he wasn't expecting whatever he saw.
	And he was just like, oh, that's not actually attractive to me.
	And he wasn't.
	This just like is totally counter though.
	So like, even if you wait for it, even if that was the case, even if he was like, most men definitely can't even get into a bed with a woman who's not attracted to them.
	So, like, this guy, like, even if I grant you that that was the case, he was unattracted to you.
	Like, that's just orders.
	Oh, my God.
	I can't even.
	It's dumb logic.
	I know.
	I know.
	I shouldn't have said that.
	Hang on.
	How many of you, now that we have that show of hands, how many of you think that men who proposition women for sex generally get rejected by show of hands?
	How many?
	Wait, yeah, ask your question again.
	All I'm asking is that men who generally try to proposition women for sex get rejected.
	It just so depends on the circumstance.
	Are you going up to some random?
	Sorry.
	Are you going after some random girl?
	Generally.
	Generally.
	I feel like you're going to have to go.
	Yeah, yeah.
	A person you don't know.
	So like the, here's what the question actually is asking.
	You're at a bar and I'm at a bar.
	Okay.
	Let's pretend I'm 20 years younger.
	You could put up Chad Drew, right?
	Saying you see that Chad Drew, right?
	Good-looking young man, right?
	We're both at a bar.
	I proposition some random chick for sex.
	You proposition some random dude for sex.
	Who's going home that night?
	That's fair.
	Who's going home that night?
	The guy.
	I mean, the girl who asked the guy, probably.
	Yeah.
	But also, I feel like generally, like, if we're trying to talk about how a hookup culture shouldn't be the way that it is, then you should say that nobody would.
	Well, no, just the point is rejection.
	Totally.
	Yeah.
	The point is rejection.
	It's like almost anybody you walk over to who's a male, who's single, and you just go, hey, you want to come back to my house and fuck.
	They're going to say, yeah.
	Okay, you know what?
	Next time I go to the bar, I'm going to have a little camera right here and I'm going to record some footage for you next time.
	That'd be sick.
	I meant a guy did that.
	That would be good.
	Have you?
	It's been done by all kinds of people.
	No, I used to do hidden camera videos and I did this.
	We had a woman go out into the street and ask men point blank period, do you want to have sex with me?
	Her success rate was like.
	Wait.
	Sorry.
	It was like 100%.
	But also, it was very high.
	But also, like, how attractive are both parties?
	Because if the man is like super attractive, then maybe he'll have a very high success rate as well.
	I don't know.
	So in comparison, you could.
	But does that mean then that women have higher standards and that we don't want to just go home with anybody?
	But men will?
	What if it's because women are more fearful?
	No, it's because of options.
	I think there's a lot of factors.
	So women can afford to say no.
	Fair enough.
	But don't you want the woman to say no?
	Don't you want women to have a low body talent?
	They have the next one.
	Question.
	Well, when we're talking about it, yes, I would love.
	Yeah, of course.
	I'd love for all the women to say no, right?
	We're in a courtship for a elongated period of time.
	Has nothing to do with the fact, though, that if you look at intersex dynamics, most men ain't saying no.
	What does that say about their standards, though?
	That's what I'm saying.
	It says that there's so much in the form of rejection, they can't afford to say no.
	You think that sex is that important?
	It's a bodily function.
	Yeah, I think so.
	I think that we have this like primary eating.
	I got needs too, girl.
	We all do.
	But men, like, scientifically, yeah, but men, hang on, hang on, fair enough.
	That's the difference.
	What those needs come short.
	feel like if a if a less like attractive by society standards woman went up and asked the same amount of people that like a more attractive woman did she probably would get rejected too because people have I let have you done that experiment too Yeah, well, roll the clip.
	Right.
	Roll the clip.
	I want to see this.
	You can actually take a woman who is like a four, right?
	And her rejection rate is also very low.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Dude, maybe I just, maybe like the guys that I know in my life are just dicks because I've never seen environment.
	Look, there's a very easy way to explain this.
	It's like the average woman has the equivalent sexual optionality as an A-list celebrity.
	Like, in order for a guy to like every single woman here at this table, if you guys were so inclined, you could fuck like seven dudes in a day.
	You could.
	You could.
	You wouldn't want to, I think.
	But you could.
	In order for a man you would.
	Yeah.
	In order for a man to.
	Why are you looking at me, Andrew?
	Can you stop interrupting kindly?
	Sorry.
	All fucking night, guys.
	Holy shit.
	So, in order for a man to be able to achieve this, he literally has to reach the pinnacle of status in society.
	Now, there's a couple different ways he can do this.
	Like, either he can be like top percentile in looks, which I mean, even then, I think most, even if he's really good looking, he's going to struggle to fuck seven new women in a day.
	But he's going to have to be an A-list celebrity.
	So, A-list musician, professional athlete, famous movie actor.
	That's it.
	As woman, you just have to show up.
	That's it.
	That's the total differential here.
	And by the way, that gives me a woman.
	This is where we get the idea of like groupies from.
	This very idea.
	I don't know.
	That's the type of guy who has the same option as a random chick at the bar.
	I don't know.
	I would love to be like a hot man for one day and just see what it's like.
	Right?
	There was actually a woman who's a woman.
	There's tons of women who do experiments where they pretend to be men.
	They pretend to be men for dating apps.
	They pretend to be men in person.
	In fact, the one woman who was very famous for living as a man, I think it was for roughly a year.
	Yeah.
	Killed her.
	I think it was.
	She was so traumatized by it.
	Nope, not kidding.
	We can look up the name right now.
	Not kidding.
	Totally traumatized by it, right?
	Really?
	Yeah.
	She quit.
	Because of what the way that men speak to each other?
	No.
	Because of being married.
	She had nothing to do with that.
	It was the rejection.
	You kill yourself because you get rejected.
	You should go to therapy, please.
	No, she actually did end up.
	Wait, wait, how would you know?
	What do you get rejected on?
	No, but I'm sure that there's other ways you could deal with that.
	Well, here's the thing.
	Here's my challenge to you then.
	My challenge to you is to start a dating profile as just a mid-man.
	Mid-man.
	So you do that as a dude.
	Hang on, that's it.
	Just a mid-man, and then just try to approach women on this dating profile.
	And then next time you're on, come back and show me all the responses.
	And when you're crying and you're in tears and you're like, my God, I didn't know that women were such vicious, heinous fucking monsters.
	I'm going to laugh my ass off.
	Quick question.
	Do you hate women?
	Not enough.
	Okay.
	Because I'm just.
	I wish I hated him a little bit more.
	Let me ask you a quick question.
	Do you always ask stupid questions?
	No, I'm just by your responses.
	It kind of sounds a little to me.
	Like, it's almost as if you're very negative on women.
	Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
	It sounds a little misogynistic.
	I don't want to use that.
	Man says something misogynistic.
	Oh, my God.
	Can you kindly stop interrupting?
	Yes, Brian.
	So you just said, you asked him if he hates women, the implication being that he hates women.
	Do you know what the definition of misogyny is?
	I mean, I don't want to, like I said, I don't want to use that word because that's what I'm saying.
	You're literally, it's the same thing that you're trying to imply.
	I'm just.
	You're implying he hates women.
	Misogyny.
	Hatred of women.
	Okay, well, then why don't you want to use the words?
	Because, like, that's a very, I mean, in today's society, it's a very, like, what, how do I say, how can I put this?
	It's a very, just like feminism.
	Like people we don't really understand the definitions of like feminism or misogynistics, so I don't really know.
	I'm just asking that question because the response is just giving like women are the problem.
	I'm not saying that you you I'm that's how my that is how I'm interpreting your response to the questions that we're giving you.
	So I'm just asking, you know, do you hate women?
	And I'm not saying like I'm not trying to do you hate children.
	Because based on the responses that you gave when it came to pregnancy and having the kids, it sounds to me like you really hate children.
	I'm just asking.
	I'm just asking too.
	Do you hate children?
	I don't hate children.
	Based on the answers that you gave about wanting to adopt, not wanting to give your husband kids, it sounds to me like you hate children.
	But how would I hate children if I weren't going to adopt?
	Why do you hate children?
	How can I hate women if I'm in a room having conversation with them?
	I'm just, I mean, but you can still have conversations with people.
	I don't know.
	My feeling is you hate children.
	That's how I interpret it.
	I'm just interpreting.
	I'm not going to tell you what I'm doing.
	I'm just asking.
	I just interpret it that way.
	Yeah, that's what I interpreted that.
	You don't want to give your husband children because you hate children and you hate husbands.
	I mean, kids are human beings.
	I also think you hate husbands too.
	Why do you hate husbands so much?
	I mean, I'm married, so I don't really necessarily.
	I know, and I'm in a room full of women.
	It's like, what's your name?
	But, like, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, because I'm going from like an emotional standpoint.
	Me too.
	You hate husbands and you hate children.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	But I'm talking about...
	But that's how I feel.
	No, I'm talking about.
	It doesn't matter what's reality.
	What matters is how we feel.
	Okay, well, no, that's not what I'm saying.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Okay, so that's how you do it.
	Stop trying to invalidate my feelings.
	Oh, my apologies.
	Yeah, I'm not sure.
	Thank you for the apology.
	Here, we have two things to react to.
	Can you pull up that thing I just sent in?
	So this was a Tinder experiment that was done.
	Can you make it a little bigger?
	Whoa.
	That's cool.
	Okay, so they basically like took, scroll down a little bit, FaceApp, Gender Switch, same pictures.
	Scroll back up, sorry.
	Okay, so male, zero matches in 12 plus hours.
	Female, 200 matches in one hour.
	And so basically it took like, they tried to compare like Mario, Maria, both 25.
	They change, basically this could be brother-sister, right?
	Twins.
	Twins.
	Twins, essentially.
	The woman, and these are both pretty average looking, maybe even slightly below average looking.
	Female.
	Stay below average, yeah.
	Yeah, female, 100-plus likes or whatever.
	Male, zero.
	Wow.
	So below average-looking woman, even she can fuck a bunch of dudes.
	Mario.
	Like, most of you ain't swiping right on Mario.
	I can't lie, I would not swipe on Mario.
	I like menu summit.
	I was just going to make a comment of something that because I have guy friends that have talked to me about these kinds of things.
	Anyways, but yeah, they make it so that the men also have to pay for it so they can get like other cards.
	I'm just saying that.
	You're saying the men have to pay on Tinder?
	I think they try to make it, the app to design it so that the men pay so they can make more money also on top of it.
	I know that because it is true.
	I saw my friend showed me like his app and I was like, wow, that's crazy.
	And they advertise the women he's attracted to only in like the paying section.
	I don't know.
	And then we have the age forward for Barbie over here.
	We got that?
	I love Slayer.
	Oh, I got it.
	She looks like Dolly Brady.
	Oh.
	I love Selden.
	Look better in the second picture?
	I believe so.
	She doesn't look 99, though.
	No, not 99.
	I know, dude.
	You look at my age up versus that one.
	I mean, it's crazy.
	Oh, okay.
	Your hair is so perfect.
	You look like a supermodel.
	Oh, you guys are so sweet.
	All right, we have NAS in LA.
	Dude, thank you for the big $200 soup chats.
	Guys, W's in the chat for Nos.
	We should just grant women all this.
	All men should stop working.
	Well, let the women do all the hard work.
	We'll bring our men back for military and send only women out and do all the heavy lifting in society.
	Women can pay for everything and fight the burglar at 2 a.m.
	When can we get started?
	Nas, thank you so much.
	W's in the chat for NAS, man.
	Thank you, man.
	So let society die, and then when we beg for the men, just like have them come back.
	Is that what the thing is?
	I think he's trying to show us that we couldn't, that we couldn't.
	Yeah, we do need men.
	We absolutely need men.
	We wouldn't be able to have children without men.
	We wouldn't be able to have husbands.
	Or women.
	We need men anyway.
	We wouldn't be able to have a society.
	We wouldn't be able to have a patriarchal society.
	No, you wouldn't have any society.
	La Women are too nice.
	Well, not literally.
	Here, I'll just piggyback on what Andrew said.
	Like, so if all men disappeared, I would say that, well, here, I'll give you both examples.
	So if all women disappeared, this would be the end of the human species.
	It would absolutely suck.
	There would be losses in certain fields that could be very detrimental.
	However, of all the surviving men, most of them would continue surviving.
	Life would suck, but I mean, we would all survive until we all die.
	And then that's the end of the species.
	If all men disappeared, I'd have a party.
	Me except for you.
	I'd be really sad that you were bad.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I think you're right.
	I think a lot of women would actually have parties.
	And then they would die within a year.
	Yeah, perfect.
	Oh, no.
	That sounds like a great time, honestly.
	I would say 50% of women are dead within three weeks.
	You think?
	Yes, I think.
	No way.
	Yes.
	We'd like fuck up the machinery and make the ozone layer open all the way up.
	Yeah, we'd do too much hairspray and like radiation poisoning.
	No, it's just men are so involved in critical infrastructure that women are not involved in these fields.
	There wouldn't be the knowledge base to be able to replace them.
	And also, not only that, even if there was enough women to get into these fields, like the cascading, the cascading chaos that would ensue, it just, everything would be completely fucked.
	Like within 24 hours, power grid done.
	It's done.
	Okay, yeah.
	Wow, that doesn't exist.
	No, no, you're probably right, but imagine.
	Telecoms gone within 24 hours.
	Everything's no, no, I wasn't going to say that I think that we would be able that everything would be peachy keen if all men just disappeared, but I'm saying that wouldn't it be nice if our society didn't rely so heavily on one part of the species?
	Thank you.
	Wouldn't it be nice if it was a little bit more equal?
	It doesn't have to be inherently completely equal.
	Well, that's not the point.
	I literally could not agree with you more.
	Honestly, where the fuck are all the women oil workers?
	Yeah.
	Where are they?
	I bet they look real cute in those uniforms.
	Wear all of the Navy SEALs.
	Oh, wait.
	They can't.
	They can't do it.
	I know, but imagine how funny.
	They can't do it.
	So, you know what they have to do instead?
	They have to take the standard and then lower it.
	Who's going to do all the OnlyFans?
	That's what I'm really concerned about.
	That's great.
	Fall the woman.
	But I mean, honestly, I'm with you.
	Pearl Davis agrees with you.
	Oh, my God.
	Imagine that.
	Pearl Davis 100% agrees with you.
	I don't like Fucking well, you're right.
	Wouldn't it be nice if society didn't have to rely so much on one sex?
	Wouldn't that be nice?
	That's Pearl Davis's entire entire argument.
	Her entire argument is your argument.
	Andrew, you know how to get under my skin.
	Oh, he's so good at what he does.
	If I'm ever in a sticky situation, I'm hiring you as my damn lawyer.
	Why?
	You're so good at what you do.
	That's because I'm a man.
	No, we don't know that.
	The joke of the date.
	All right.
	Let's get back.
	I need to get through all the show notes here.
	So, Mizzy, you have so many dating stories.
	Your ex got your best friend pregnant, had babies with her, then wanted you back.
	Yeah.
	Uh-huh.
	What's your question?
	I thought that happened to everybody.
	I guess I was just prompting you if you want to give a little more detail or if that's.
	Yeah, I regretted sending that.
	I was like, but I didn't even know what I was going on.
	I was just, okay.
	Anyways, I thought, yeah, I thought this was completely different, but this is a vibe.
	So basically, dated this guy.
	I wanted kids.
	He didn't want kids.
	So I ended up breaking up with him because I found he was talking to other women.
	Not like he was like, you know, DMing girls, whatever, which is still cheating, in my opinion.
	But so then, but then I ended up in a situation shit because I, at the time, wasn't secure enough to walk away, which is what I've, this was a while ago.
	So I'm not, I would never tolerate this again or now moving forward.
	But I just really wanted a future with him and I couldn't let it go.
	And I was willing to almost not have kids just to keep him around, which is crazy because like my biggest goal in life, like one of them is I want a family, I want kids.
	And it's just ironic because when they, then they, me and him were still seeing each other, but then she went after him.
	They started on the DL hooking up or whatever.
	I disappeared.
	I just said, peace out.
	I moved to LA to pursue my dreams.
	I never talked to them again.
	And then I got reached out to that, like, they were pregnant, ironically, and keeping it, keeping them.
	There's twins.
	And so, yeah, and then he reached out, like, I don't know, and was basically like, I regret X, Y, Z or blah, blah, blah.
	You know, just not the kids.
	He's happy because it helped him.
	It saved him.
	It also saved me to get away from that shit.
	But which I'm happy.
	I'm happy it happened, ironically.
	I think it was the best thing that could happen.
	And I think this is the same guy you found out he had seven side chicks who all became friends.
	And you later found out a few of the girls financially supported him and he would always buy you Uber Eats on their accounts when we were hanging out.
	So different guy.
	Different guy.
	That guy, like, I wasn't like, yeah, I was just.
	Where can the chat go to worship this gentleman?
	No.
	No, I'm kidding.
	Joke, it's a chill.
	He was really nice.
	Like, that's why I was so shocked.
	I was like, oh, he's so nice.
	Like, kind of, like, thought he was kind of dumb.
	Like, you know, and then, but I found out maybe eight, seven or eight months later that, oh, he had seven side chicks.
	Like, that's crazy.
	But, you know, I mean, I don't know the whole story.
	I don't think it was at the same time as me.
	The girls were convinced, but I didn't know who they were.
	They didn't who I was.
	And then I found out that, yeah, they were financially supporting him.
	But what a king.
	That's crazy.
	If women can do it, like, why can't a guy do it?
	You know, legend.
	You said that you wanted to talk about red flags for screen flags and why women are attracted to red flags.
	Ooh.
	I didn't know we were going to go down everything.
	I wrote down this.
	Yeah.
	So I definitely become attracted.
	Like, red flags can be attractive.
	And that's not a good thing.
	But women and men probably too, you know, sometimes we flock to like red flags.
	I mean, a lot of it has to do with our childhoods and things like that, but it's hard to break what you're the way that you're shown love as a child.
	And that's how when you're an adult, that's what feels normal.
	So when someone's really nice to you, let's say, not saying my dad was bad in any ways, but there's certain traits of like, didn't let you cry, didn't like let you talk, like just like these little things.
	So that's kind of how I feel love from a guy.
	And so basically, yeah, there's certain things that I subconsciously am attracted to that are red flags that I shouldn't be treating you like shit.
	Yeah.
	I've gotten better.
	If a man starts treating you.
	Yes, yes.
	Are there a Chad who's in here right now treating you like shit?
	Well, like, no, I want to.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	Like, who?
	Chad you right here, man.
	A Chad.
	A Chad.
	Really good looking dude.
	He's in here treating you like shit.
	I don't like really good-looking dudes.
	He meant like anything.
	Whatever you think is a really good looking dude.
	What are some of the red flags that you'll tolerate or whatever?
	It's okay.
	Treating you poorly, what else?
	Well, it's not like treating you poorly, right?
	It's just like, you know, I like, you know, I like to, they like to drink every day, you know, and it's like.
	A good drug problem.
	Yeah.
	And then if they do that, how do they treat you?
	Right.
	Well, a lot of the guys that I've dated pretend like they don't have these red flags.
	And then once I love them, then they're like, oh, hey, by the way, I'm a huge alcoholic and yada yada.
	You know, it's not.
	And when they're drunk, they treat you better or worse.
	So the one that got my best friend pregnant, better when he was drunk.
	Loved him when he was drunk.
	Great guy.
	The other one, when he did, you know, drink and stuff, he was like really mean and distant and hostile and stuff.
	So I think it just depends.
	But I'm definitely not trying to date a heavy drinker in the future.
	Not like I could date someone who can have a drink, but I'm not trying to date someone that every single day has to get wasted to deal with life.
	Yeah, sure.
	Yeah, going around the table on this one, though, who here, I guess, ignores red flags in the men?
	Kinda.
	Here, just yes or no?
	No.
	No?
	What?
	Okay.
	I used to.
	Used to?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Ignores, ignores, whatever the fuck.
	Yeah, no.
	I had to get done so astronomically dirty that I was like, wow, I can literally never tolerate anything ever again.
	And that's why I've been single for so long, I think.
	Yeah.
	I kind of give them the benefit of the doubt.
	You want to believe in?
	You put them on this pedestal and you, you know.
	I'm all like, second chances, third chances.
	Yeah.
	No more chances.
	Tenth chances.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I wonder.
	Because I get attached.
	I do wonder, though, when it comes to this.
	So women often complain that men are toxic or abusive.
	But, and I don't, I think most men don't go down this path.
	But when men are young, they see the men that, like when you're 18, 19, 20, other men in your peer group see the men that you guys are going after at that age.
	And they see you, they hear you even if they're friends with you, complain.
	You complain about, oh, he's such a jerk, he's such an asshole, blah, blah, blah.
	You guys engage in sexual relationships with these men.
	Men have major motivation when it comes to wanting to find a girlfriend.
	You guys essentially train men to be abusive.
	Like, because you reward the men who are abusive.
	Yeah.
	With sexual access?
	I'm a little confused by this.
	No, that's so fair.
	Oh, I have a take on this.
	I think it's because women are very like, I'm not saying every woman ever, obviously, but a lot of women are very emotionally abusive.
	So then that makes the man want to react to the emotional abuse and the manipulation or whatever that the woman is doing.
	Got to kind of push back a little here.
	I'm not saying like that, oh, he just should have punched her in the middle of the moment.
	So I think like maybe me and Brian even disagree a little here.
	I do think that most men are toxic.
	And I do think that they fit the criteria in modernity of what abuse is.
	And I think that women love that shit.
	So like here, hang on, hear me out.
	Hear me out.
	Okay.
	The things that women consider to be toxic traits, which is it's usually too much of the thing that they like, too much assertion, too much dominance, too much of this, too much of that.
	Right?
	It's on a scale.
	But then, if the man backs it off, even an inch, then it's too little.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	So it's like, so all of these things which are considered toxic masculinity, right?
	All those toxically masculine men, they seem to be getting plenty of women.
	They don't seem to have much problem with that at all.
	When you say abuse, especially verbal abuse, right?
	This is the idea of a man basically just saying no, right?
	That's usually what verbal abuse reduces to.
	I haven't actually heard there are some situations where like he called me this, he called me that, and they said some horrible shit.
	I agree with that.
	Okay, maybe we can consider that verbal abuse.
	But most of the time, it's just like he just said no.
	And they consider that to be verbal abuse.
	Well, this is where I agree with you.
	What I think ultimately is that men who say no and are very toxic in their masculinity basically got nothing to worry about.
	And he's right, right?
	Aren't you training them to be toxically masculine?
	I kind of agree with you, to be completely honest.
	I can't.
	That's logical.
	So I don't know if training is the right word, but I do think that women generally.
	Women.
	See, in my head, there is an E there.
	This is just my accent.
	It's just me accent.
	But I do think that women, is that how you say it?
	I do think that women.
	Dude, that's so crazy.
	No, but I do think that they participate in holding up the patriarchy to an extent.
	And I know that you guys don't like to say the patriarchy, but when it comes to the patriarchy.
	When it comes to how you're saying, kind of like the overtly masculine, like not because not that masculine is inherently a bad thing, but like where it gets to be, I don't remember toxic masculinity.
	Yes.
	I do think that that is occasionally upheld by women and their standards.
	And I think.
	Can I ask you a question?
	Yeah.
	How come all these blue-haired feminist chicks are always fucking the most toxically masculine men ever?
	Dude, no, actually, let's talk about it.
	And because I'm not going to sit here and say that it's only men that are the problem because I completely disagree.
	Like my brother, he has had some seriously insane girlfriends who I am like, how are you a real person?
	But I've also had like, you know, and that's where I think we talked about this last night, but I think it comes down to: are you just a moral person or are you not?
	And that has kind of nothing to do with gender.
	But I do think it's more acceptable and tolerated in relationships for a man to be a little bit more on the crazy side.
	You'll still stay with him.
	He'll cheat on you, whatever.
	Crazy in that way.
	It's not more tolerated.
	It is definitely not more tolerated for the man to be crazy than the woman.
	You really?
	Really?
	But I will ask you this again because I feel like he kind of evaded.
	Oh.
	The blue-haired feminist lunatic who is skyscreaming at the top of her lungs.
	Why is it that she ends up fucking the toxically masculine man?
	Why is it that women are saying, I want a man who acts like a conservative but has my liberal values?
	Why are they all saying this?
	Andrew, I wish I knew.
	Right.
	I wish I knew the answer.
	What is considered to be toxically masculine, right, is not toxic at all.
	It's just masculine.
	And that's why those women are single.
	It's just, it's just a matter of time.
	Let me give you an example.
	of some toxic masculinity.
	Okay.
	So there are men I know, not me, of course, I would never do anything like this before.
	There are men I know who they will go out to a shooting range, and I've been with men like this, and they will just unload on a target.
	Okay.
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	Then a small little fluffy rabbit will run across the range and they'll blast that motherfucker just to watch it explode.
	And then they'll give a big belly laugh.
	They'll give a big belly laugh.
	They don't give a shit.
	They don't fucking care.
	Rabbits are pretty invasive.
	Yes, they are invasive.
	And they're evil, right?
	They're ontologically evil.
	But the point is that Fluffy gets blown to bits, right?
	Those dudes, they never hop in the car with a chick who's like, oh, honey, I can't believe that you can't.
	They don't give a fuck.
	They don't care.
	They don't care.
	So the thing is, is like all the things that you would consider toxically masculine.
	Here's another one, right?
	Video games where, you know, you roll through the town and you just kill everything that you see.
	Women don't give a shit about that either.
	When you're talking about toxic masculine traits, it seems to only be the idea of you are using your masculinity as a weapon to defeat some absurdity that I have over here.
	Interesting.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I like that take.
	Techno Trooper donated $200.
	Thank you, man.
	Tell us your favorite green flags in a partner that is undervalued.
	Yo, TechnoTrooper, thank you so much for the $200 TTS.
	We'll go around the table on that.
	W's in the chat for TechnoTrooper.
	Thank you, man.
	Tell us your favorite green flags in a partner that is undervalued, okay?
	I think somebody who listens and gives you good advice.
	Like, I appreciate a partner that I can get advice from.
	Like, someone who doesn't mind hearing about my daily trials and tribulations because they want to help me genuinely help me through it.
	Why do you undervalue that?
	Wait, do I undervalue?
	No, I think that is generally undervalued.
	I think that people are very okay with their partner not really being interested in what they do on a daily basis or like you know disputes with people.
	They're like, oh, whatever.
	Like my wife's complaining at it.
	By the way, Lucy, do you prefer from front or your side?
	If I'm being so honest, my exact side profile is not it.
	My three-quarters is where it's at.
	Yeah, so you might want to, you tend to lean like you're looking that way.
	You probably want to look more this way.
	Just heads up.
	Brian, are you saying I look bad?
	You're kidding.
	We're already like three hours in.
	They've seen every bad angle.
	I've seen that wicked witch thing going on on that side.
	That's probably the most brutal insult I've ever heard.
	It's like that.
	It's like, what's that?
	Ferris Bueller's Day Off where he talks to the side of his mouth.
	I'm just saying Cameron is so we're getting a lot of side.
	Yeah, stick a lump of public.
	Okay, most underground.
	You should never be able to quote Ferris Bueller.
	Underrated is hard because undervalued.
	Favorite green flags.
	How about just the undervalued part's going to confuse the girl?
	Sorry, Tech.
	No, let's just do favorite green flag.
	Loyalty and like a good listener.
	I also think like the underrated maybe is feeling like the like the safe, like a man making you feel safe.
	I think.
	Sometimes I'm a little out of line and being able to have someone confront me and critique me for sounds like toxic masculinity.
	Take those fucking ears off.
	Take that shit off.
	Take it off.
	Wait, I kind of agree with her, though.
	But that's toxic masculinity.
	No, no, no, no.
	Telling her what to do.
	No, can I tell her?
	Can I tell you guys why?
	And I'm sorry if I interrupted you.
	I'll be super quick.
	But my recent ex, like, no, I'll try my best.
	Holy fuck.
	I've actually been relatively quiet this episode.
	All right, fast, fast.
	Okay, I'm trying to go.
	Anyways, I have maybe some issues because of the way I was brought up with arguing and about being really quick to start an argument.
	And my ex-boyfriend kind of had to be like, Lucy, I need you to not raise your voice at me.
	And I need you to genuinely just not do that because it doesn't make me feel good.
	We're not going to get anywhere with that.
	And I stopped raising my voice at him.
	And then we didn't get into fights as much because it wasn't.
	Or did he go, Lucy, shut up?
	No, because he respected me and he understood why it was that way.
	Yeah, right.
	No, seriously, as women need to be put in our places.
	I don't know if I would put it like that.
	Well, I just.
	Everyone needs to be put in their places.
	Yeah, I definitely need a man to get to me in my place.
	All of these things that you would consider to be toxic masculinity.
	No, because he's not telling me Lucy.
	You know what he's saying?
	He's telling you to shut up.
	No, he's saying that he doesn't.
	He thinks that he thought that basically I didn't respect him because I was speaking to him in a way that I might speak to my family who has lots of argument in a dialogue.
	The thing is, he's telling you, if you don't have anything good to say in a tone that's nice to say, shut up.
	Well, it's not that we didn't have those.
	Hang on, that's what he's actually saying, right?
	No, because we still had the conversations.
	He just didn't like it when I would actually raise my voice.
	So that way it was able to diffuse the conversation because I wouldn't get that idea.
	If you couldn't get into the conversation without raising your voice, what should you have done?
	No, but then it just.
	Hang on, what should you have done?
	Shut up.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	If that's what you want to take away from that, we can just say constructive criticism.
	And there you go.
	I love it.
	Think to that.
	So what's the kind of context that you're doing in a relationship that's been an issue?
	I guess, because before I was like, oh, I haven't really dated that much, but I've like talked with and had friends of benefits relationships.
	Right, so even in the too assertive.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You're too assertive.
	That's the problem.
	No, I'm not too assertive.
	Okay, just tell us what.
	When a guy is able to constructively criticize something.
	Yeah, so what are you doing which is eliciting the criticism?
	Um, well stop, stop.
	I get told I'm like too nice and passive.
	Like that's what it was with him.
	Like because I would just go along with whatever was happening.
	And then wait, hold on.
	Didn't you say that you were like checked?
	So just to be clear, your boyfriend was checking on you.
	Like checked you.
	Oh my God.
	Who cares?
	Okay.
	Distinguish language.
	Okay.
	Yeah, but whatever this guy was was checking you.
	How?
	Didn't you say you were like behaving poorly or something to that effect?
	In that sense, like of being too nice, that was like neglect.
	What?
	Like I wasn't being like actively myself in the relationship.
	So it's like being too passive and not being like, oh, I hate when this happens or like when this happens.
	Because you'd be like more interested in me sometimes.
	And I'd be like, let's do what you want to do.
	Why are you like looking?
	Why are you looking like that?
	You're saying a whole bunch of nothing.
	Like, I just, I don't know.
	It's kind of weird soup.
	I mean, to be fair to her, Brian, what she's actually saying is that she was too perfect.
	And so he needed to check her for being too perfect.
	Yeah.
	Facts.
	She was being too perfect.
	So, your boy, so you were being too nice, and your boyfriend was like, I need you to be more of a bitch.
	I mean, he must be.
	He needed me to be more real with him.
	Like, okay, so you're being disingenuous.
	Disingenuous and neglectful, yeah.
	You were neglect.
	How were you being neglectful?
	Like, emotionally?
	I will just let her answer the question maybe.
	That'd be helpful.
	Yeah, calm down over there.
	Sometimes it's easier to just let the people have the one-on-one so we can get through it.
	Well, you seem really eager to get through it so we can like move on.
	Oh, my God, bro.
	I'm trying to think of how to elaborate on it, though, because it was like it wasn't super serious.
	And then we would go like in and out of phases of being like, oh, we should like make this serious.
	So, like, yeah, emotionally.
	Okay, then.
	Did I answer your question all right, or do you have anything else for me?
	All right, next.
	I think that a green flag is like when like someone tells, like, is able to tell me what they want and need, even if I don't want to hear it.
	That's it.
	I'm done.
	Like, come on, seven-inch strap on.
	Sure, why not?
	Oh, okay.
	My favorite green flag in a guy is when they have active goals that they're like working towards, so they're not like just being lazy all day.
	My green flags are a guy that is understanding of me and who I am as a woman, and also a man who, like you said, is a go-getter.
	So my green flag is when he opens the doors.
	Ooh, yeah.
	That's a little simple.
	It just shows that you care even about the littlest things.
	Like, say it again.
	You open the car door every time I go to the car.
	I know you care about me.
	You're not going to forget about me.
	You realize that I do that for complete strangers.
	You open the car door for them?
	Well, I open doors for them.
	Well, yeah, and that's nice of you.
	I do that too.
	Yeah, but doesn't, I mean, that's just common courtesy, right?
	Yeah, but like, if I'm seeing a dude, like, no, it's really not common courtesy.
	I one time went to the movie theaters and this dude opened the door for himself and then like it slammed back and I was outside.
	So I'm like, I'm like, this is bad.
	Like, what's going on?
	This guy's a legend.
	Riley, what about you?
	Mine would probably be when you like deep conversations.
	Like, when you can just go out and like go on a nice drive and then it's just deep conversation.
	You're opening up.
	All right, let's have a deep conversation right now.
	What do you want to talk about, though?
	Um, I don't know.
	Never mind.
	No, no, we're doing the deep conversation.
	Oh.
	I thought you getting up or?
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Go ahead.
	Wait.
	Oh, so just to be clear, the man has to do all the work?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	Go ahead.
	Let's have a deep.
	Go ahead.
	Lead us there.
	Lead us to the deep conversation.
	No, because I kind of trauma dump and like stuff like that to like other people, I guess.
	So like if he wait, you can only have a deep conversation about trauma.
	No.
	No.
	Okay, let's have a deep conversation about something that's not trauma.
	Like deep conversations about the goals.
	I don't know how to do that.
	Yeah, okay, go ahead.
	Put him on the spot.
	I don't know.
	Um you guys talk about aliens?
	No, don't just let her go ahead.
	Also, aliens not a particularly deep conversation.
	I don't know.
	It can be.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, so here, let me hand-hold you.
	Because it kind of just has to, you have to go with the flow.
	I don't know.
	Like, you can't just be like, like, you, you, okay, here.
	You would do random conversations, and then all of a sudden, like, we all open up, and it's like, I don't know.
	You have to be in somebody has to lead it to the deep place.
	Yeah, and I'm usually the one that does that because I'm the yapper.
	You're the one who does it.
	Yeah.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Since you're the lead, yapp, you're a yapper.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Next.
	Um, how about give me an example of a time you had this deep conversation?
	What was the topic about adoption and foster care?
	And yeah.
	What, excuse me, what do you need from your lip gloss?
	All right.
	Okay.
	Um, I don't know.
	I just find it interesting.
	I've seen all these like TikToks about women complaining about like men when you go on dates with them.
	They have nothing to say.
	But like my own personal experience, like if I didn't carry the conversation on dates, granted, there are women who are like good conversationalists that I've encountered and they do like contribute pretty equally.
	But like overwhelmingly, I've never been on a date where like my experience was well.
	Like the reality is like men have to carry conversations.
	Point blank, period.
	Question: Do you do deep conversations when you're on dates with women?
	Sometimes.
	And what do you guys talk about?
	The specifics of it?
	Yeah.
	I can't really think, but like my position is not like, well, yeah, but I don't think it's a green flag that I can have a deep conversation with a woman.
	It's your position, not mine.
	It's not my duty to prove your point.
	Just ask a question.
	I don't care about, I frankly don't care about having deep conversations.
	I guess it's more like about the future.
	Like you're usually talking about the future in your deep conversations.
	And like for me, like since it, like what I said about like adoption and stuff like that, like if we wanted to have kids, because I say I date to marry, you know, so like I don't just look at you like okay.
	All right, Libertarians.
	He's not on the table.
	I'll pull it back up.
	Libertariat.
	We have Lucas here.
	One sec, guys.
	One sec.
	Thank you, Libertari.
	Debbie's in the chat for Libertarian.
	I do appreciate it, man.
	Sorry, fuck.
	Got that all out of order.
	Guys, like the video, please.
	If you're watching Lucas, women are attracted by attributes that are toxically masculine because they are proxies for resource provisioning and the ability to protect.
	Women are often seduced and deceived by dark triad traits.
	Lucas, thank you so much for the Streamlabs message.
	I do appreciate it.
	Speaking of which, we touched on this topic last show, but it wasn't the healthcare CEO, Assassin, Luigi Mangion.
	Anybody here have a crush on him?
	No.
	You know who I'm talking about, though?
	Yeah.
	No crush.
	No crush.
	I feel like that's that same weird phenomenon.
	Whatever his last name is.
	I don't have a crush on him, but kind of slay what he did.
	Murdering, murdering in general.
	A father with a wife and children.
	Kind of slay.
	Okay.
	Kind of slay.
	Wait, can I respond to that last bird?
	I think that a lot of the time people accept the love that they think they deserve.
	And the women who end up in relationships that are maybe toxic and then they stay in them, it's because they probably have pretty low self-esteem.
	Not every single case, but I think for the most part, people who have higher standards for themselves, people who actually respect themselves, don't get into that kind of situation because they don't accept that sort of thing.
	Okay.
	We have a message here from Libertariat.
	Andrew, how much do I have to donate to get you to say man instead of men for the show on Tuesday?
	Woman will be triggered on a millennial level if you do so.
	Two champagne pops.
	Two champagne pops, and I will use man instead of men for the plural.
	There you have it.
	Thank you.
	Oh, I didn't order the pickles.
	Hold on one minute.
	I feel like I have to clarify one more time.
	I am saying women every single time, but with the way that I say words, it sounds the way that you guys don't like it.
	It's not a problem, which is just you.
	This is something which happens on this show repeatedly, every single panel with multiple women who cannot say women instead of woman, and I have no fucking idea why.
	And no, it's not isolated to locality.
	They're from all over the country.
	I don't know why they can't say women.
	Do you say tomato or tomato?
	Tomato.
	Okay.
	I say tomato.
	But even if I said tomato, right, it wouldn't matter.
	Because the plural form, tomatoes, if I said all tomato instead of all tomatoes, that would sound stupid, right?
	Yeah, that makes me have to check your grammar and be like, all tomato kind of stuff.
	Is there a kind of pickle that?
	Like, will pickle slices do?
	Just get dill pickles.
	But pickle slices.
	Yeah, but like pickle, like full pickle.
	It's in the same pickle.
	It's in the jar.
	It's in the same jar.
	Same thing.
	I'm ordering three jars of different types of pickles.
	I don't know if the guy's even still here, the dude.
	One sec.
	I'm going to get that ordered.
	We're going to get back into the notes here in just a sec.
	One sec, guys.
	Let me order this.
	What?
	It's what?
	Hold on, boys.
	Oh, what the heck?
	That could take a while.
	Okay, I'll have to do it in a sec.
	Maybe we don't have time.
	Let's see.
	Oh, Mandy, you said that you had a, you were a sex addict at one point.
	Yes.
	And then, what was this?
	Can you give us the details of the sex addiction, the scope of it?
	Well, it was when I was a teenager.
	So that's why I was on all those dating apps and why I got banned off of all those dating apps.
	I sorry.
	I was hooking up with a lot of people.
	It's really hard for me to talk about.
	Because I didn't want to do it, but it was like such an addiction at that point.
	Sorry.
	Took us.
	Oh, huh.
	Now that one's going to cry, too.
	I know.
	You're making everybody cry.
	It was just like I had no self-confidence.
	I had no self-confidence at that point.
	And I just fucked up my body.
	I'm sorry.
	It's okay.
	It's okay.
	You've like grown so much.
	Yeah.
	That's why I love my boyfriend so much.
	He saved me from all of that.
	I want to go out of this.
	She got me out of it.
	Oh my god, this is so dramatic.
	No, it's dumb.
	I talked about it last time and I was fine.
	It's not dumb.
	It's not so cute.
	You should see me when I'm really crying.
	Oh yeah.
	The real tears were show.
	Here we go.
	Sorry.
	If you don't mind me asking, you said like your body, you said you did damage to your body or what do you mean by that?
	I would just let people do whatever they wanted.
	Basically, I mean, I'd just say, yeah, go for it.
	I don't care, like, I didn't give a fuck.
	Hypersexuality, like, hypersexuality is a real thing.
	It really is.
	And people don't take it as a serious addiction.
	And it really, really is, especially today.
	And with these, these young men that are just, you know.
	And I don't know.
	It's just, it's a lot.
	Was there like STDs?
	Is that what you're talking about?
	Well, I did.
	I did have an STI at one point, yes.
	I had syphilis, and I did get it treated.
	I don't have it anymore, but I did contract it because I didn't care.
	And when I got with my boyfriend, I had these red spots all over my body.
	And he said, what is that?
	And I said, I don't know.
	I never noticed that.
	And they were all over my back.
	So I go to the doctor and I wouldn't have gone to the doctor if it wasn't for him because I was thinking, oh, it's just going to go away.
	I had stage 2 syphilis, so if I had gone any longer, basically my brain would be getting eaten by this virus right now.
	So.
	Sorry you had to go through that.
	Oh, you don't have to apologize.
	You didn't do anything.
	Dude.
	I just made things awkward.
	I'm sorry.
	No, no, like that.
	Don't make me feel bad.
	To like bring up hard conversations like that is super duper important.
	Like these are really things that people should like to do.
	I didn't think this would make me emotional.
	But like you're being vulnerable and that's super hard and like scary.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for sharing.
	Thank you.
	Yes, this is a safe space.
	And I imagine it probably doesn't help when people like to like, you know, hate on body count and that sort of thing.
	And it's like, and some, like, obviously you do have control over some parts of it, but some, in some parts, you really don't, you know, and like, and then you just start to like feel really bad about yourself.
	And even if it's something that you maybe didn't want to be true and happening, it, you know, but you're moved on from, I mean, not moved on from it, but you have moved into a different chapter of your life.
	And I think that's really important.
	Thank you so much.
	In fact, you can be Vulnerable about it on this with like all these people.
	You don't like, you know, whatever.
	Like, this is something that people don't talk about, but probably a lot of people go through.
	So you're being really raw and real, and it's very brave of you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you so much.
	Oh, thank you.
	Wait, one clarifying question.
	You said that, so your now current boyfriend, who you've been with for like two and a half years, you had the syphilis when you met him?
	Yes.
	Did you have syphilis?
	Hold on, hold on.
	Yeah.
	Andrew had you had carnal knowledge with your boyfriend while you were he got treated as well.
	And we were not allowed, like we literally couldn't have sex for like a couple months because of it because we wanted to make sure it was completely gone.
	And then we had to get tested again to make sure that it was gone before we could continue.
	This is your current boyfriend?
	Yes.
	And the fact that he's bisexual didn't contribute to that at all.
	No, no, it was before I met him that I had contracted.
	You got it.
	And you gave it to him?
	Yes.
	That's fucking awful.
	I know.
	Not the right time, Andrew.
	Exactly.
	Not the right time.
	No, it is awful.
	It is awful because I had no idea.
	She didn't know.
	But isn't that like a pointed lesson as to why promiscuity is so awful?
	That's exactly the point I was bringing up.
	No.
	She regrets it, I think.
	I hate, I ate every all of that.
	I hate that whole phase of my life.
	This is just a very touchy...
	This is like a soap opera.
	I know.
	How the hell are we going to start this conversation topic?
	How the hell are we going to move on from this?
	It's okay.
	Yeah, honestly, it kind of looks like it was on purpose.
	But so, just curious, your boyfriend, he, like, how long had you been with him?
	Like, was it three months in when you figured out you had syphilis?
	It was literally like a couple weeks that we had like known each other for.
	And he was like, hey, what are these spots all over your back?
	And I'm like, I don't know.
	These just showed up a few days ago.
	And when I went to the doctor, they confirmed that it was the stage two syphilis.
	How do they get rid of that antibiotics?
	Much worse.
	The biggest fucking shot in your ass.
	It's two like giant, like giant needles.
	Like, I'm not kidding you.
	They're like this big, like this long.
	And two of them in your lower back.
	It was the most painful shot I've ever gotten.
	And there's, so there's, is it stage one, stage two, stage three?
	Is there stage four or just stage three?
	I think it just goes to stage three because after that, you're like, you're fucked.
	You're fucked up.
	Did you have symptoms during stage one or what was stage one?
	Is pretty much there's no symptoms.
	No symptoms.
	And then stage two, there's like some like, like, I got these just like red spots all over my body.
	They almost look like mosquito bites.
	Did they itch?
	No, not at all.
	I didn't feel them at all, but they were just, they were everywhere.
	Making sure.
	Everybody's looking, everybody in the chat's looking at their bodies right now.
	This is an educational segment.
	Do I have syphilis?
	Fuck.
	Damn.
	Okay.
	Good times, I guess.
	Good times, yeah.
	Any other sexuality?
	Do you know how you got it from the table?
	I have a suspicion that it was this one guy who I had, he was like kind of like a party guy.
	Like he like every time I like I had hooked up with him a few times and he was always like on Coke or something while I was like hooking up with him.
	Was he also bisexual?
	Yes.
	And I suspect that it was him because when I told him, because you know, when you find out that you have syphilis, you tell all of your previous partners.
	How many phone calls did you have to make?
	That's a lot of phone calls.
	Listen, like three or four.
	Yeah.
	And I suspected it was him because when I told him, he just said, oh, okay, thanks.
	And it was like, like, like he already knew.
	Like, he already knew.
	And I'm like, so you just had bugs.
	You knew you had bugs and you gave it to me and you don't give a fuck.
	And I'm like 99% sure it's this guy.
	That's his morals.
	Gotta be careful out there.
	Yeah.
	Otherwise you get burned.
	Don't have sex or you'll die.
	Was he older than you?
	Exactly.
	Yes.
	I think he was only like three or four years older than me.
	But that would make you under 18, right?
	Because if you're 20 and you've been with your two years.
	Yeah, yeah, I would have been under 18.
	But you're 17 and you had stage two syphilis.
	Yeah.
	I'm sorry, dude.
	Or 18.
	Damn.
	17.
	Were you still in high school?
	I'm trying to remember, actually, because I don't know if it was before or after summer.
	Oh, it was after.
	Yeah.
	After?
	Yeah, after high school.
	Because my boyfriend.
	Okay.
	Well, I guess sorry to hear about that experience, although it sounds like me.
	Sorry, was that too casual?
	Too casual for the sorry.
	I was like, that was kind of therapeutic, Loki.
	Cathartic.
	I mean, it's good that you're no longer a sex addict.
	You've been in a...
	Well, you fuck women, so you're not in a monotonous relationship.
	You're not...
	At least I check with people before I have sex with them.
	Do you tell them?
	Wait, I don't know if you mentioned that, but did you tell your partner prior when you first started dating him that you had syphilis, or you didn't know?
	No, I didn't know.
	He was the one that pointed them out to me.
	Oh, I knew that they were there, but he was the one that said, like, you need to get this checked out.
	Okay.
	You got it.
	So he had to get the two big needles, too.
	Oh.
	I feel so bad about them.
	Oh, my God.
	Don't make me start crying again.
	No, no, no.
	But he stayed with you.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	He loves you, girl.
	What a surprise.
	What a man.
	Yo, Andrew, if you were single back in your player days, if a girl gave you syphilis, would that be a breakup?
	Or that would be the end of the relationship.
	I don't blame you.
	Oh, no.
	Now, to be fair and charitable to her, I also didn't have the carnal need of having a seven-inch strap on up my rear.
	That's a fair point.
	A hot godmomy.
	Maybe he'll take a couple of needles to, you know.
	Well, he also, like, kind of passes out when he sees needles.
	So that's why I also feel really bad because he has like a really good one.
	Isn't that the easy way to go, though?
	That's what I'm saying.
	Pass out when you see needles.
	Isn't that the easy way to take a shot?
	Yeah, but it's also like really painful.
	Like, so fucking painful.
	So we have, moving on with the show.
	Wait, okay.
	Hang on.
	Wait a second.
	So can he hold this over your head?
	Can he be like, I got fucking shiftless, bro?
	You can't talk to me.
	Like, you fucking did that to me.
	Can he do that?
	Like, that seems legitimate.
	He could, but I'm lucky enough that he never has.
	But I wouldn't blame him.
	I feel like that's a really good Trump card to just like.
	I wouldn't blame him if he did, honestly.
	Is he more of a feminine guy?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay, that makes me feel better.
	We share clothes.
	Oh, and I love that.
	I love that.
	Is he more of a feminine guy?
	I just want to remind you: seven-inch straps.
	Right, I just wanted to, I just needed a clarification.
	I just needed clarification.
	Okay, because it was giving, it was giving.
	Lots of things.
	Come to mind when I think masculine.
	That ain't one of them.
	Listen, I'm a bartender, and I know some fucking like dudes that are kinky, taking things in places like that you would never expect.
	Yeah, that is very cute.
	And I know who they're getting with, who's in the bar.
	And my mouth is closed, but like shocked.
	The most alpha male men sometimes is like insane.
	Oh, yeah.
	So you just came.
	It's like when Jeffree Star was like, you'd be so surprised who's in my DMs.
	Formerly.
	A bunch of basketball players.
	Maybe Andrew?
	Yeah, maybe Andrew.
	Maybe Andrew's in Jeffree Star's DM.
	I'm in Jeffree Star's DMs.
	Yeah.
	Honestly, you guys would be cute together.
	Did you guys make a passive gay joke?
	It's so clever when women do that.
	You're so clever.
	That's why women are so funny.
	Oh, Andrew, stop.
	I needed your validation, obviously.
	We need a vagina joke.
	Stat.
	Come on.
	Okay, guys.
	I don't have one.
	I'm not.
	Anybody?
	You know what we're going to do?
	You know what we're going to do, chat?
	We're going to do a $69 pizza roast party.
	We need a brief intermission.
	So, guys, TTS temporarily for about 10, 20 minutes is going to be reduced to $69 if you guys want to get a roast in.
	We got to get the syphilis jokes.
	I'm sorry.
	We have to.
	We have to.
	So guys.
	Dude, they're going to clip this.
	They really are.
	Wait, I already have one.
	My boyfriend and I called ourselves the syphilis sisters.
	No, I'm no.
	What?
	That's cute.
	We got it.
	Syphilis sisters?
	That's so cute.
	I don't know.
	And we were coping.
	It's good.
	No, that's good.
	That's the sisters.
	All right, guys.
	We are going to do that.
	If you want, get a $69 TTS in streamlabs.com/slash whatever.
	And yeah, thank you guys.
	$69 TTS.
	We'll allow those to come through.
	We're also going to get pizza here for the guys.
	Anybody, do you not want pizza?
	You want pizza?
	Yes, pizza, pizza.
	Pizza.
	Pizza.
	Cheese.
	Well, you guys have your own, but we already have some.
	Pizza?
	Yeah.
	I said pizza.
	Do you guys want pizza?
	Your own pizza?
	Pizza?
	I want to eat mine.
	Pizza.
	Pizza.
	You want pizza?
	I'm a vegan.
	I know.
	Can't you just take the meat off?
	No.
	The cheese?
	I'm just going to have some bread from marinara.
	Can't even $69.
	I have pizza on order, but I really don't know if I can eat right now.
	Hi, Brian.
	Hi, Andrew.
	Yo, thank you, Rapp.
	You're a vegan.
	Do you date Carnis?
	Yeah.
	Except that I always make them wash their mouth after eating meat, though.
	Like, I'm not gonna.
	Just like a little rinse.
	Like, because I don't want to meet anyone.
	They're all moral things and they're killing people.
	Well, who am I to tell somebody how to live their life?
	You're a vegan.
	Why does that surprise you, Andrew?
	Aren't they killing people?
	$40.
	Can you get syphilis through a stoma?
	What is this?
	What is stoma?
	What is a stoma?
	I don't even know.
	What is stoma?
	Can we get a Google on this?
	Asking for a kiss.
	Stoma.
	Wait, you make guys wash out their mouth before they kiss you or whatever.
	Well, like, this girl that I was dating, she was like a very big carnivore.
	Like, she loved meat.
	And so, like, whenever we'd go out to eat, she'd order something meaty.
	But, like, I would not let her kiss me until she'd give them like a little rinse because it tastes like meat in their mouth after they're done eating.
	I'm like, ugh, I just can't do that.
	But don't brush my teeth for you.
	But don't you?
	Not even brushing.
	Just take a nice little rinse.
	I don't even care about that part.
	This is the part that I care about that I don't understand.
	What?
	You're a vegan because you consider animals to be on par with people.
	No, Then why are you vegan?
	I'm a vegan because I don't believe in factory farming.
	Because if I was living in Europe where it was a much more humane practice, I would totally eat cheese and meat.
	It's just because in America we do it really poorly.
	Just a beautiful farm fresh shit.
	Yeah, no, I eat eggs from the farmer's market and my aunt has chickens, so I eat those.
	I'm not a vegan.
	That's not a good thing.
	But it is because for me, it's not because I think the animals are on par with people, but it's because I think that abuse is still abuse.
	My aunt's chickens are eating an eggs.
	Right?
	Chickens just lay eggs.
	Yeah, I'm aware.
	They just do it.
	They just like to do it.
	They just pop them out.
	Yeah, I know, but that's not, it's not vegan to eat an egg.
	But it, but I mean, the eggs are going to be laid regardless.
	I also, like, if something's going to be thrown away, like, if it's going in the trash, because for me, it's also about the environmental.
	So if that had farm fresh bacon on it, would you eat it?
	No, because well, first of all, meat just kind of grosses me out at this point because I've been vegan for almost six years.
	So it just kind of grosses me out at this point.
	Like if I'm in Europe, though, like if I'm in Italy, I'm going to have some cheese.
	Okay.
	But that's because I'm in Italy and they don't, they don't, they're not putting their cows in fucking like feeding dubes or like grabbing the shit like how could bacon gross you out, but not eggs?
	I didn't say bacon doesn't smell delicious, but I like, but it does, I just don't think I could eat it.
	I don't think I could polish it.
	I'll divorce my husband.
	But not eggs.
	Well, I just love eggs.
	They're just delicious.
	But I'm not going to go to like Ralph's.
	That's basically like a malformed child.
	No, because it's not fertilized yet.
	Yeah.
	So then it's fine.
	Because I want you to know, like, it's not that I don't believe in the eating and like consuming of animals.
	I just don't think the way that we do it in America is practiced human.
	That's not veganism.
	That's vegetarianism.
	Okay, well then, sure, let's say that.
	Yeah, vegetarianism.
	Yay.
	Vegans like a moral odd.
	Yeah, it kind of is.
	The abuse of the animals.
	Well, they think animals should have the same rights as I'm not a PETA.
	I think all that shit is stupid.
	Like they give slightly more consideration to a human.
	Well, I'm not going to go out here pouring paint on fur coats.
	I have leather boots that are hand-me-downs because I'm not going to throw them away.
	I'm not going to not use it if it's already been created.
	I'm just all about reduced reuse recycle, my man.
	Yeah, I like spill to eat for veneer.
	Okay.
	I just feel like you should, after everything you've heard me say, you should not be surprised that.
	What about like Muslim meat?
	Like when they like do the thing where they like halal?
	Yeah, like, yeah, they humanely kill it and they do like a prayer before they kill the animals.
	Well, I'm not a Muslim.
	I know, but if you wouldn't be able to get it, I'm just grossed out by it.
	I just don't think I could.
	Does it make you feel like it?
	Because I work at a restaurant where we serve primarily meat, so it's like in my job to have to upsell those steaks and stuff.
	Does like the smell make you nauseous?
	Because I'm just vegetarian.
	I work in a restaurant that has lots of meat.
	Really?
	I was vegetarian for four years, and when I ate meat for the first time, I almost threw up.
	Yeah, that's just because I wouldn't eat it.
	Why?
	But the smell doesn't gross me out.
	I guess like something like a microbiome and your stomach or something.
	It doesn't like have the enzymes anymore.
	I don't know.
	I don't know the science.
	Something like that.
	That happened to my friend too.
	She accidentally took a bite of a chicken quesadilla after being vegetarian pretty much her whole life because she thought it was regular, just quesadilla.
	And she literally threw up in my sink.
	Yeah.
	Not fun.
	Oh well.
	Pizza looks good though.
	You guys enjoy it.
	I hope that you enjoy every bite, truly.
	Better than going in the trash.
	And you're getting fed.
	That's why I date people who I don't, like, I'm not going to police your actions.
	Truly.
	Wait, do you raise your own chickens?
	No, my aunt has chickens.
	But I know them all.
	I've seen them with my own two eyes.
	They're very happy.
	They have like a nice garden too, so they get fed all these good, good scraps.
	They have good life.
	Would I cook a steak from well?
	Funny thing you say that actually.
	One time I was at one of my like mutual friends' houses, and I was like, there's a bunch of these guys who like come from money, so I think that a lot of times they have things kind of done for them.
	And so we're grilling burgers.
	And if you guys know anything about grilling, you don't leave the grill.
	Okay, you don't leave the grill.
	You do not abandon the grill.
	They freaking abandoned the grill.
	So now there's I'm over here, the vegan, flipping the damn burgers for these freaking grown men.
	So, I mean, like, if it if it comes down to it, but Rachel Wilson donated $69.
	Please ask chairs three, five, and seven to stop talking in a whisper voice like they're about to pass out.
	Please use your big girl voices.
	Any response to that?
	That's three, five, seven.
	Or is it three?
	I've like never websited this whole podcast, so I'm so sorry.
	I've also talked as well, but maybe I'm just not close enough and I am more soft-spoken.
	But I'm a big woman.
	You're overweight, or what?
	What do you mean?
	I'm like, grown.
	She's big on women.
	She's a big girl now.
	Mr. Basteman donated $69.
	C1, annoying dummies.
	C2 subtle red flags.
	C3 Nutberg.
	C4 Nightmare Fuel.
	C5.
	Thought C6 minus 100 IQ C7 Evil C8 Boring AFC9 Infinity Giga Chat C10 Shobby.
	Is it a roast if it's done?
	Wait, C6 is like 100.
	100 FQ.
	Wait, hold on, hold on.
	Is that an insult?
	Libertariat donated $69.
	Thank you, man.
	A stoma is when they put a hole in your stomach to bypass the end of your digestive system.
	You hook up a bag instead of having to pass way.
	Oh, I know what that is.
	Did they do that with like people of eating disorders?
	Well, that can be a reason why you would have one, but like also just if you have like a colonoscopy or something, I think.
	Or not colonoscopy.
	I'm afraid.
	Rachel Wilson donated $69.
	Lucy, please say one woman greeted three women.
	Also, please get over to Appalachia and start rebuilding people's houses.
	One woman greeted three women.
	I'm getting I just genuinely never realized that I pronounced it like that.
	You guys are opening my eyes, truly.
	What a joy.
	What a joy.
	You know what?
	Back to buy me a flight.
	I'm on my way.
	Nasenla donated $69.
	So you won't eat bacon, but you'll happily munch on some lady's pastrami.
	I like that.
	That was a good one.
	That was a good one.
	Why'd I say it like that?
	I wish that that was read in Donald Trump's voice.
	Oh my gosh.
	Bring the AI.
	Did you vote for Trump?
	I just wanted to guess what you think the answer to that is.
	Well, I mean, I would think that you, being as familiar as you are with women, would not want a female president.
	So true.
	Donald J. Trump.
	Dee, do you have the hat?
	Nope, we're not doing this again.
	No.
	But it's the Trump hat.
	Last time Brian put on the Kamala, the Biden shirt, that was so good.
	He looks great in it, too.
	It's a good color on him.
	He put on a Biden shirt.
	Yeah, he did.
	I'm leaving this fucking podcast.
	Or was it Kamala?
	I think the trade was she had to put on a MAGA hat or something for it.
	Yeah.
	No, that's not a good trade.
	Blaffis donated $69.
	If you're attracted to a red flag man because you can change him, just wait till you have kids.
	You can change them regularly, and for the same reason you think you can change a man.
	Because there's shit involved?
	No, because you think you're in control.
	Daryl underscore Frank Carson 512 donated $69 good to see you Andrew in person shout out from NYC don't give chair six pizza cause they eat that SHT upside down in Chicago.
	Funny all those tears and her makeup didn't run Smiley face, smiley face.
	Chair six is a TR.
	I mean, her makeup.
	It did.
	It did, Ron.
	She just wiped her hair again.
	It did.
	It's like all the way down my face.
	What's a TR?
	You can kind of see it.
	Yeah, what's a TR?
	Does that mean trans?
	That's probably what I probably.
	I'm for sure not trans.
	No, they're talking about six.
	Wait, me?
	Yep, they're calling you a.
	I'm a woman.
	Okay.
	Yeah, but they all say that.
	I am.
	Are transgender women women?
	I don't want to answer that question.
	Well, then they're women too.
	I don't want to answer.
	Wildrandy donated $69.
	Missy, if you eat now, how are you going to eat your 2 a.m. slop?
	Oinkoinkoink.
	Life is piggy.
	Dude, I don't know.
	Like, I can't even stream because I'm here, but I'm eating for you guys, okay?
	Life is piggy.
	Do you do like mukbongs?
	Something like that.
	Oh.
	Oh.
	Oh!
	No, it's not like that.
	It's just a show that I went on.
	Like, I would eat dinner at 2 a.m. every night, so they make fun of me for it.
	Did you go live?
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	She openly states what she thinks people want to hear so as to be accepted, then readily admits she does the opposite.
	No idea who she is.
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	It's actually incredible.
	Wow.
	Beautiful.
	Thank you so much for that answer.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I couldn't finish mine.
	Yeah.
	Andrew, you want?
	No.
	No, because of the.
	Oh, because of the syphilis.
	I know it is.
	I know it is.
	It does not.
	Can I answer in all fairness?
	Yes, absolutely.
	Of course you can.
	Doesn't offend me, honestly.
	I know.
	I love that you're laughing about it now, honestly.
	Girl, you don't have to.
	Or give it to Octavia.
	She'll be good.
	Oh, just kidding.
	She's no, but thank you.
	I appreciate it.
	Yeah, I'm done.
	All right, guys, final call on the 16th.
	We did a little bit of a chance.
	Don't touch it, Andrew.
	You might catch it.
	Can you guys do a roast that's actually funny, please?
	Apparently, Lucy wants to be roasted, so here we go.
	Oh, this is a good one from Wrath.
	Biggest ick.
	Roth donated $69.
	What is everyone's biggest tick?
	Some of the panel look like I can gather good dating advice from if I was crazy and 20 years younger.
	Okay, Wrath.
	Starting with Lucy Goosey, what's your biggest ick?
	Someone who is just like mean for no reason.
	Like some, I was, I was hanging out with this guy at, we were just like at the bar playing pool, and he was like, that girl could lose a bunch of weight.
	And I was like, well, okay, like, that might be true, but you don't like, what did you gain from saying that?
	Like, he was just very judgmental.
	What did you gain from saying that might be true?
	Well, I'm saying, like, regardless of whether or not it's true, it doesn't mean that like, I don't like to say that.
	But what did you gain by confirming it was true?
	Sounds like you're pretty fucking mean, Lucy.
	No, I'm not.
	That's pretty mean.
	I'm a nice person, but I'm not mean for no reason.
	Next.
	Did you fucking do?
	No, actually.
	Yeah, that was a turnoff.
	Biggest tick?
	So when guys talk shit about their closest friends and like try to prove that they're better than them, it's disgusting.
	Retweet.
	Have to.
	Yeah, that's a good sign that you say that.
	Why?
	Because that's like a terrible trait in, I think, in a man.
	It is.
	Yeah.
	Hello?
	Sorry, Bill.
	Then they started talking, and I was like, And I was going to say, I don't like interrupting men and ones that just talk and I try and talk and then I get interrupted.
	Okay.
	What?
	I didn't interrupt you.
	Give me that look.
	What the hell?
	I didn't say anything.
	Okay, getting interrupted.
	All right.
	I guess, like, not taking care of yourself, like physically, like, if you're just someone, like, not like, oh, if you're depressed and you don't shower for like three days one time, like, no, not like that.
	But, like, if you're just, like, regularly not taking care of yourself, feeding yourself trash food, like, just not caring at all about yourself, or like washing your face or like regular shit, like, that's, I don't know.
	That's kind of an ick when someone doesn't take care of themselves.
	All right, if you're gonna, can you put it back there or like eat back there?
	Because, I mean, it's fine with the pizza, but sorry.
	She was organizing.
	Yeah, it's just kind of noisy.
	So, all right.
	Are you counting it out by ounces?
	Okay.
	Um, my biggest ick is like when they're in love with like their mother.
	Oh, what do you mean?
	Like, not in love with their mother, but like, they have like they're super close with them, you know?
	Like, their mommy's voice.
	What's wrong with being super close with your mom?
	Because why are you like, I don't know.
	You mean where the mom controls him?
	Yeah, not like controls him, controls him, but like, you're like, how old, and you're still going to your like mother for like all this stuff?
	Like, what?
	At least the guys I date.
	Like, call your mom for advice.
	Yeah, like anything.
	Like, financial.
	Like, my ex, his mom, like, still did everything for his car, still, like, paid, like, all of her, like, his bills.
	It was, like, for the moment.
	Yeah, but that's that's like a bizarre social relationship.
	That's not when you're talking about a man having a good relationship with his mom, that's good.
	No, but like, it was toxic.
	Because, like, she hated me.
	Oh, but, like, she was like in love with him.
	And it was just like, I don't know.
	So she loved her son and hated you, like, a good mom?
	I was not a bad girlfriend, though.
	Like, it was just so weird.
	Like, one time I had like, what is it called?
	I'd like broken down on the side of the road.
	And like, I had like called to ask him to, like, come help me.
	And, like, I had, like, gone crazy because, like, I don't know why, but he had like called his mom and he was like complaining to his mom about me.
	And I was like, why are you calling your mom right now?
	And his mom was like, just told him to leave me on the side of the road.
	Let me ask you, can I ask you a question?
	Yeah.
	You dated this guy before you were OF.
	We like started it like together, like in the middle of our relationship.
	And you don't think that that would be good cause for mom to not like you?
	She didn't know.
	I mean, like, I already know.
	But she knows now, right?
	No, I mean, she wouldn't have known.
	Like, I don't think she knew.
	She, like, I worked at Hooters before, so she always knew I worked at Hooters.
	So she didn't have any cause to dislike a Hooters girl?
	I mean, no.
	Like, if you thought of it, think in your head, like, a good mom.
	Little Johnny comes home and he's like, hey, mom, I'm dating this chick who works at Hooters.
	In your head, what does the good mom say?
	But, like, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Just in your head, what does the good mom say to Johnny who brings home the Hooters girl?
	Is she making good money?
	That's what the good thing is.
	She's definitely making more money than him.
	No, no, the good mom doesn't say, is she making more money?
	That's it.
	The good mom's not concerned about how much money she's making, right?
	But a job is a job.
	Like, it's just like that.
	Hang on, but hang on.
	After the Hooters thing, you guys got into the OF together, right?
	Yeah.
	So you so you were, so you were clearly bad news, right?
	No, I mean, well, he was doing it too.
	Yeah, I know, he was doing it too, but would he have done it without you?
	No.
	Oh, no.
	So, so, hang on.
	So, let me get this right.
	So, mom says, listen, little Johnny, okay?
	Don't date a Hooters chick that's going to end up bad.
	And then later, if he had dumped you right then, no OnlyFans.
	No OnlyFans for him never would have happened.
	But since he stayed with you, he ended up doing OnlyFans with you, right?
	Yeah.
	So why is it that mom is wrong here?
	I don't understand the question.
	Like, because he's.
	I don't know.
	I don't get the.
	What's the question?
	Well, the thing is, is like mom saying you're a bad influence, and you were.
	Mom wouldn't talk to me.
	Like, that's the thing.
	Yeah, mom didn't want to talk to you because she thought you were a bad influence, right?
	Only fans, like, though.
	Because, like, the car thing, it happened way before, like, I even did OnlyFans.
	So she was like, Yeah, she knew exactly what you were.
	But she didn't know.
	She never met me.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	Look, look.
	She knew you worked at Hooters, right?
	No, probably not.
	Because I worked at Drake's before.
	So I was honestly probably working at Drake's because I didn't tell her I worked at Hooters until he told her.
	And how long was that into the relationship?
	Oh, like a couple few months, you know?
	I don't know.
	So mom had a bad vibe about you.
	And then found out you worked at Hooters.
	And then you got her son in OnlyFans.
	And she was wrong.
	How?
	I mean, like, she made money.
	Like, I'm making his, like, they don't kill him.
	You think the mom kid's like, Johnny, it's okay if your girlfriend is literally a terrible influence and you're going to put your dick all over OnlyFans.
	She was a bad influence.
	She makes a lot of money.
	That's not what a mom says.
	Moms don't say that shit.
	What mom says that?
	What mom's like, it's okay.
	Mom didn't do anything for him, though.
	Like, that's the thing.
	Like, mom was barely around for him.
	I don't understand.
	I thought he was a mama's boy.
	He was totally careful.
	He's a mom and boy, but it's like really clean.
	Final point from each of you.
	I don't understand how he's a mama's boy, how he's controlled by mom.
	Then mom's not there for him, but also mom is wrong about you, even though he got into OnlyFans because of you.
	I don't get that.
	I mean, I don't know if like mom knew that I did OnlyFans.
	Like, I don't know, maybe.
	Okay.
	Yeah, that's my point.
	Pick a stick.
	Insecure men.
	Um, chewing with your mouth open and bad breath.
	Bad breath.
	Bad hygiene and egotistical men.
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	I do appreciate it.
	We're about to turn these off here in just a sec.
	I'll let the remaining ones come through, though.
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	Yeah, six.
	I called you negative 100 IQ, but I'm not surprised you missed it.
	Who's the gal in the pickle harbour?
	And the what?
	What the huh?
	Oh.
	And I didn't see your negative, honey.
	I just saw Archduke Darkavia.
	That's who that is.
	Blaffis donated $69.
	Thank you, man.
	I think I know who I contracted syphilis from.
	He was a party boy, but he coincidentally was covered in all these red spots.
	Oh my god.
	That's a good one.
	That's a good one.
	Thank you.
	Quite the coincidence.
	Daryl underscore Frank Carson 512 donated $69.
	Guys, the sisterhood is strong on this panel.
	She said she had an STI and they all started crying, but not one wanted to touch her.
	Smiley face.
	Smiley face.
	Chair one is trying to reach out, but second guessing.
	I didn't second guess it.
	She had her arms tied somewhere on like right here, honey.
	No, that's so funny, though.
	I touched you on your lap.
	You guys are like, oh my god, you know.
	It's funny, though, because I was going to ask.
	I was like, how contagious is it?
	But I thought better of that.
	All right, we have one more coming through.
	Then we're going to switch it back, guys.
	We are going to switch it back there to $199.
	TTS.
	All right.
	Thank you guys.
	One sec.
	Let me get that coming through.
	We have Vector.
	Thank you, man.
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	Care 6.
	If you took a timed machine into the past for the next 20 days, subtracting 100 years each time, by the time you got to 23, Yada, you wouldn't want kids for the 20th time.
	Lol.
	Okay.
	I don't know how to respond to that.
	Thank you, Vector.
	I do appreciate your message.
	All right, guys, we've gone ahead and bumped it back up.
	TTS is back to 200, but we will do a Row session later on towards the end of the show, a full-blown Roe session.
	I just want to do a little intermission to get people a little bit of food.
	So going back into the pre-show notes, we have Kenny.
	Kenna, I guess.
	Kenny.
	You describe yourself in your Instagram as emotionally unstable.
	That's been there for a while, like years.
	Are you emotionally unstable?
	I mean, yeah, sometimes.
	Okay.
	Do you have a diagnosis?
	No, that's like an actual thing.
	Well, not of like, do you have BPD?
	No, no, no, no.
	I'm fine.
	Just like the men I get with are just like crazy, and that makes me crazy.
	So it's just like okay.
	Are you able to scoot into the table a little bit?
	Oh, yes.
	On your, I think this is in your OF.
	You say you describe yourself as your average, just your average nymphomaniac.
	Oh, no, that's in like quotation.
	So like average.
	So I'm not average, you know?
	So you're a full-blown nymphomaniac.
	Yeah, yeah, I guess.
	You're a okay.
	Well, I'm more curious about the nymphomaniac part.
	What does that mean for you, I guess?
	I don't know.
	I just like I like sex and I like everything that has to do with sex.
	Would you say you have a sex addiction?
	No, I mean, probably like around the time when she was doing it, I was doing that too.
	Like I banned on all the apps too.
	But I got a new phone number, so I got the apps back.
	Right, you wrote here in your notes that no crazy stories other than when you were 17, you were on every dating app imaginable.
	You were getting a different guy every day for about a month, and now you're banned on every dating app.
	Not every day.
	That's what you wrote.
	Okay, it was like every other day.
	But I was like talking to Min you were, when you said you were getting a different guy every day for about a month, when you say, what do you mean by getting a different guy?
	You mean sleeping with him?
	Well, I was like, I would say I was sleeping with a guy like every other day.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah, I mean, I was I was fucking them.
	I was finding them on their dating apps and then and you were having sex with them.
	You were underage.
	Yeah.
	Did you think that's kind of predatory?
	I mean, no.
	I wanted to do what I was going to do and I did it.
	Did you disclose to them that you were underage?
	Oh, no.
	A couple of them did know because like we just met on Snapchat, but so you were basically.
	I mean, here's the.
	I was like 17.
	I was almost there.
	Here's the predatory component.
	You were inducing men into committing like felony sex crimes.
	No, I mean 16 is the age of consent.
	Oh.
	Wait, hold on.
	What state were you in?
	We were in Kentucky.
	But like Kentucky, Edge of Tennessee.
	Is it still federally.
	I don't know if there's a federal level for this, but I thought it was the Romeo and Juliet Law.
	Yeah, I thought I was well.
	Well, like, you were, were any of these men, like, over the age of, like, 25 or something?
	No, I think I only got with like one man.
	He was like 27, but that's all.
	I don't know.
	But I was almost sure what the laws are.
	How many men total do you think it was?
	Like during that period or like well, it like didn't really last long.
	So that one month, it was probably like 10, 15.
	10.
	10, 215.
	Okay, all right.
	Okay, how many of that translate to total then for you?
	Well, I'm like, my body counts only 19.
	So like after that like little phase of just like, now I'm dating to Mary.
	It's over now.
	You're dating to Mary?
	Yes.
	And I do OnlyFans.
	So yes.
	Wait, so hold on.
	Total body count, you said is 19?
	Yeah.
	And but of the 19, 15 of them was in the span of a month?
	Yeah.
	Like my phases are really short.
	That's the thing.
	Phases plural?
	You've had multiple phases like this?
	No, no, no.
	Like I have my hoe phases.
	I have like my drinking phases.
	How many hoe phases have you had?
	Just one.
	Just one.
	But now I'm in my like loyal phase.
	Okay.
	So but that's going to be really short too, right?
	No, no.
	This is going to like, it's going to stick.
	Okay.
	Then your wife phase, that's going to be too, right?
	Yes, it is.
	Yeah, it's not going to be super short like all your other phases.
	No.
	No.
	What I'm going to do is to you.
	Okay, so imagine.
	Can you imagine telling somebody all the phases that I do, they're like totally, really short.
	And you're like, and now I'm in my loyal phase.
	Yes.
	Like, what comes to mind when you say that?
	It's like my forever like loyal phase.
	I don't know.
	Like, I was a hoe, but now I'm okay.
	Wait, question.
	The next guy you meet likes, because you said you're dating for marriage.
	Are you going to make him like wait?
	What do you mean, wait?
	Like to have sex.
	I mean, no.
	I say like we go on a few dates first and then let's like have sex.
	But like I'm not like a first date kind of girl, no.
	Well, during the month, you were.
	Oh, yeah, during there, yeah.
	Like I didn't really care like about any of that.
	That's interesting.
	Okay.
	But now you got standards, I mean.
	You also said your hot take is that cute slash hot girls shouldn't have to work and should just profit off their God-given talent their whole lives?
	Yes.
	So what do you mean?
	Oh, I mean, so like people like me and you also like do my job.
	She's hot.
	So like I think she should just profit off of that because she's hot.
	Is that why you're trying to get your friend into it?
	Yes, because she needs more money and I'm trying to get her money.
	Like money makes the world go round and I love money.
	You said talent?
	Talent, yes.
	That's talent to be active.
	Everyone can stake seven inches up their booty.
	Not like, I mean, but her boyfriend can't.
	Not all of us at this table can.
	So, I mean, I think that's talent.
	Isn't it a talent also that you can't?
	No, I mean, I wouldn't, like, say, like, as a flex, like, yeah, I can't put this in my butt.
	No, that's not a talent or a flex.
	How about won't?
	But if you have, like, boundaries, isn't that a flex?
	Like, oh, hey, I'm not going to take this uncomfortable thing and shove it up my ass for money.
	But I like that.
	Like, it's not bad.
	Like, it's not a bad feeling.
	Yeah, no, but that's not what we're talking about.
	It's whether you like it or don't like it.
	We're talking about what constitutes talent.
	I mean, I think it's a tough task.
	Isn't it talent?
	I mean, if it's talent to be able to, you know, stick random thing up Orphus, right?
	Why would it not then be a talent to just, I don't know, have boundaries where you don't stick thing up Orphus?
	Because you're not doing any.
	You're just like sitting with it.
	I mean, what are you doing?
	You're just sticking something up your asshole.
	Yeah, like, have you ever done it before?
	Exactly.
	So you don't understand.
	You don't understand the talent that it takes.
	Yes, how much practice does it take to stick something up?
	You really got to go at it, dude.
	You have to like stretch it out.
	You have to get it.
	So you stretch your ass out so you can stick it.
	Yes.
	Man.
	Oh, here you go.
	So much.
	So much.
	A lot goes into it.
	Yeah.
	That's like a thing.
	A lot probably does go into it.
	Oh, I'm getting imagined.
	I thought, but wait, I thought it was just a God-given ability to just be pretty.
	But now you have to practice stretching your asshole out so you can stick seven inches up?
	Like, you know, I'm giving them everything.
	I'm showing you how I do it.
	Like, the whole nine yards.
	Cinematography.
	Yeah.
	So you actually think your advice to your friend here would actually be that she should stretch out her asshole on purpose.
	Hang on.
	So that she can fit stuff up it for money.
	No, not her.
	Because she's like has a whole different dynamic.
	Oh.
	But me, I can do that.
	Yeah.
	What would her talent be?
	Her, I think she's like she's really bad.
	I think she needs to get into FinDom and just bully little man all day.
	Okay.
	How many subscribers do you have or whatever?
	Like on my OnlyFans?
	I have like 21,000 right now, I think.
	Go you.
	21,000 people that really love that.
	Did that one come through?
	Derry London.
	Did this one come console?
	Yeah, it came through.
	My bad.
	My bad.
	That one was funny.
	That one was kind of funny.
	How long have you two been friends?
	We actually met at Hooters together when we both served there.
	Like about a year.
	We've known each other.
	Wait, she's been trying to convince you to start putting things in your ass?
	What the fuck?
	Nope.
	Not that in particular.
	Just like.
	Not that in particular.
	I see.
	Okay.
	But she's trying to get you to start a OF.
	Yes.
	How's that working out?
	I honestly do love my nine to five.
	What I do in the sense of working at a local dealership, I do detailing and running for parts as well as paperwork with county clerk.
	But I find it really satisfying.
	And like, I need structure and routine in my life to be okay.
	And I feel like being my own boss would be a little bit challenging.
	But also, I have like had my time on the internet.
	And wait, wait, what?
	What does that mean?
	Had your time on the internet?
	Like, been on online communities where I shouldn't have been.
	What does that mean?
	Like, kicking.
	Like, are you a neo-Nazi?
	Yes.
	I know.
	I knew it.
	Yeah.
	Can you find Erica for a splendid skin?
	What kind of online communities are you a part of that you shouldn't be a part of?
	Or were you?
	Um like there were lots of weird discord times and kick times and Skype times.
	Yeah, this is OG.
	Yeah, oh me bro.
	I was like way long ago.
	Do you have a demon?
	Did it have to do with nudity and stuff like this?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Did you go on stick cam or something?
	Like you were violating.
	Oh fuck.
	That's bad.
	What?
	What?
	No, sorry.
	This is our God.
	Okay, okay.
	So what was the nature of this though?
	Okay, so you can't drop the bombshell of like, yes, I was a member of these communities that were way into nudity.
	Okay.
	And then not explain the participation there.
	What was that all about?
	It was exploitative and predatory behavior that used me and made me feel really gross.
	Used you how?
	Like.
	Did you put your nudes on the internet?
	Here's some headlights.
	Yeah.
	Like send pics, yes.
	You put your nudes out on the internet.
	Yeah.
	I see.
	And were you being paid for that?
	No.
	Okay.
	Gotcha.
	It also sounds like she doesn't want to get into OnlyFans.
	So like, as a friend, like, you should probably not try to preach.
	Oh, trust me.
	She's told me a million.
	She literally said on this trip, yeah, I'm going to make it, McKinno, right when we're in the hotel.
	And she just, she doesn't, I think she for that will not interrupt me.
	I mean, in the nicest way.
	But like, she just doesn't.
	I don't know.
	Sometimes she doesn't have the motivation to do stuff.
	And I like, I don't know, like, I just want you to have that motivation.
	But like, I'm saying, it's not easy.
	She said she would do this before.
	She's like, I am not.
	you were two different things do you think she was actually no let me ask you this What do you want?
	I don't know.
	She sounds ashamed of like her past.
	And that it doesn't sound like she's like, this is something I'm proud of.
	Like, that's what you just said.
	So I don't think that someone who's like, oh my God, I really want to OnlyFans.
	And like, if that was her vibe, that's her vibe.
	But that does not sound like her vibe.
	And I don't even know her at this point.
	But that's my best friend.
	Like, I'm just saying, I've had friends pressure me and I've seen it.
	It's not cool.
	It's like a fucking plague.
	It's like you just touch it and it becomes corrupted.
	So it's like, it's not enough for you, right?
	No, I am not pressured anything around.
	She's told me multiple times, like, I will make it and I will do it.
	She's never told me no.
	I don't want to do it.
	And if she's told me no, stop bringing it up.
	I will stop.
	Why should she need it?
	She's passive, remember?
	It's because she has never conflicted.
	There are a lot of things to think about before starting something like that that I really want to have the time and effort to think about.
	And there are also repercussions from you having that life.
	Like you've been like, Ruby, I'm so like, I don't know what to do with my day.
	Should I just go shopping?
	I'm not even happy shopping anymore.
	And like in my own life, not even having a lot of money, shopping doesn't bring me happiness anymore either.
	I don't really know where you're going with this.
	These things just don't.
	No, keep going, keep going, keep going, go ahead.
	Like, you've told me in times though, where it's made you unhappy.
	Yeah, like jobs make people unhappy all the time.
	Like, no job is going to make you 100% happy, but like, this is what I like to do.
	You've told me, yeah, I will do this.
	Like, I want to do this.
	You told me I want to do FinDom.
	Like, that I'd be amazing at it.
	I told you.
	I feel like you would be amazed.
	See?
	She says stuff like this, and then she goes and says, I don't want to do it.
	That's a lot to sacrifice to.
	And it's just like daydreaming.
	I'm going to do it.
	She doesn't say no.
	I don't want to do it.
	Because you either do stuff or you don't.
	Obviously, I haven't yet.
	So, so why do you keep telling me I will like do it?
	Because I really think, oh, maybe I will.
	And then I end up not because it's just such a big step for me that I'm not really ready to take.
	Okay.
	Well, then I'll start bringing it up with you.
	But like, I think that you're only getting older.
	And if you want to do something, you should do it.
	And like, I'm not going to pressure you into doing anything.
	And I don't think I have been pressuring you.
	That's the thing.
	I'm going to pressure you.
	But then when I like say it and don't do it, because here's the thing: before I came on this podcast, I was like, oh, I'm like thinking I might do one after and then get all this money, whatever, be like successful in that way.
	But like, how would my mental health succeed?
	That is a very, very valid point.
	I've never seen someone on like who does OnlyFans suggest to do it.
	Like even the last time that I was on this podcast and there were some other girls, like I was talking to one of them and she was like, and I was like, oh, like, haha, like, should I start one?
	Like, I was mostly kind of kidding, but she was like, no, I don't think you should.
	Like, and to each person their own.
	I'm not saying that, like, what you do is bad, but for some people, it's harder.
	Like, some things that might be really easy for you are more challenging for others.
	And it's like, if she has that boundary, I think also would and should are completely different things.
	I agree.
	It's probably pretty taxing.
	And like, who am I to speak?
	Because I don't know, but I can imagine that it'd be pretty taxing.
	Yeah.
	Honey.
	This is the most tears I've had on here.
	I mean, first ever I wanted, I felt an energy and it was kind of making me uncomfortable.
	And like, she does not seem like she wants to make an OnlyFans.
	And she can, if she changes her mind, that's fine.
	But I just don't think we should be, girls should be pressuring other girls.
	I have friends that have OnlyFans.
	And I mean, like, you don't have, like, you don't have to agree with someone's lifestyle to be their friend.
	And you also don't have to pressure your friend to do what you do, especially if, like, it doesn't sound, I mean, I'm sorry, but there's no way, like, I mean, every day you wake up and you're like, this is, this is going to make my child proud that I'm doing this.
	Like, at the end of the day, your five-year-old kids, like, oh, does your mom do?
	She is an OnlyFans.
	I mean, I'm sorry, but I have to pay, but she has money.
	But I don't think it's something that you'd be proud of.
	I think that's something that...
	Well, that's you.
	You're not proud of it.
	Like, I personally don't care.
	And you're sitting here saying that I'm pressuring her.
	Again, I'm not.
	You're trying to.
	Yeah, that is not exactly it.
	Like, if she doesn't do it, she doesn't do it.
	I can't just like do it, do it, do it every single day.
	Like, we went on this trip.
	She said, yeah, I want to do it before we go on the podcast.
	And she said she would.
	So it's not.
	That's just me stating facts of what she said.
	Was the potential suggestion here?
	You should go ahead if you're going to do this and launch this now because you're going on this big podcast and that'll help drive traffic to your new OnlyFans.
	No, I said like if she started one, like, because we talked about this like way before like we even do this podcast, I was like, I will promote you on my TikTok, on my like everything, so like we can make money together.
	And like that's the thing, like, I'm not saying that.
	Can you come in and fucking cock block this?
	You should become a Christian.
	As someone who grew up in a child.
	I will promote Christianity.
	You're not doing OnlyFans if you become a Christian.
	How about that?
	Boom.
	Rusted.
	I like grew up in religion.
	Oh.
	And it's stopping you from doing OnlyFans, so it's doing its job.
	Yeah, actually, yeah.
	You make a valid point with that one.
	Can I say something?
	It doesn't seem to me like you want it.
	It seems like you might be saying that you'll make it because you don't want her to be upset.
	No.
	I could be totally wrong.
	No, that's like a good theory.
	Not theory, but a good discussing point.
	Like, I would love to be rich and famous.
	Who would not like that?
	To a degree.
	To a degree of famous, because like being famous is really hard too, in a lot of ways.
	But just to live comfortably, really easily in the quickest way possible would be really nice in a way.
	I have a quote for you.
	Bible verse.
	For what?
	It's Mark 8:36, right?
	For what shall it profit a man if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul?
	Oh, that's really good.
	You get tingles.
	Jesus' response to the devil.
	I just want to point that out.
	I'm sorry, it was just giving me kind of like I've had friends like before that kind of you're in a down place, and it's kind of like you see someone who's like not really wanting to go there.
	And it's like you're kind of like, if you bring them with you, now you have them at your level.
	And I mean, maybe that's not it.
	I'm just going from outside perspective, but that's kind of the vibe I've been watching for hours now.
	And I've seen like you guys are very different.
	And she seems like she, I mean, morally just is a little different than you, and that's okay.
	And like, you know, so just respecting that.
	And my question to you is: like, if she didn't do OFs, would you guys still be friends?
	She doesn't do OF now and we're still friends.
	Okay.
	So your friendship is $109, donated $200.
	I wasn't done.
	Did she give him syphilis?
	That's funny.
	Want a break from the ads?
	Well, we're waiting.
	I don't even know how to answer that.
	Maybe?
	I don't know.
	We do a lot of stuff, so I don't want to go too into detail there.
	Big Sass Energy donated $200.
	Chair 3, here's $200.
	Your friend is absolutely a trash person.
	Get away from her.
	Oh, wow.
	Uh-oh.
	Thank you for the compliment.
	I actually brought her on this trip, so thank you.
	Are you guys trying to make her?
	Are you guys still doing that?
	Yeah, is there going to be beef after this?
	No, I love Ruby.
	That is the thing.
	Like, I don't know.
	No, I'm not arguing.
	Am I arguing?
	Like, do you think I'm getting mad at you?
	No.
	Because, like, I don't.
	I'm not sure.
	Remember how they brought you topics?
	Remember that.
	She wanted you to know that.
	No, I wasn't telling her that.
	I was telling the comment that.
	That's the thing.
	Okay.
	Good talk.
	Bless you.
	All right.
	I wouldn't make my friend cry on a podcast with 500,000 viewers, but that's just me.
	Wait, stop.
	There are 500,000.
	Why would you say that?
	Why would you say that?
	I mean, there's like three people watching, Max.
	No way.
	I'm embarrassed.
	I'm sorry if I made you cry, Ruby.
	Like, I don't mean to, like, I don't.
	If you think I'm truly pressuring you, like, tell me.
	But, like, I don't think, I don't know.
	I'm not going to.
	I'm not taking you on it anymore.
	It's like not you, anyways.
	It's just like the topic matter of like online presences and times.
	That was so sad.
	Remain.
	For like, for like years in that way, and in real life, it's like, whoa, I couldn't even like, but like, that was just really hard time.
	I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about.
	I don't even know what you're talking about.
	Can you guys just kiss already?
	Like, you guys have to go there.
	And I don't, like, I don't know.
	I'm sorry if I just sounded like a bitch right now.
	Like, I'm sorry.
	This is literally a therapy session.
	I know.
	There wasn't a lot of crying.
	I didn't do it this time.
	I bet you guys never expected this.
	Wrongful rage donated $200.
	Is there a weekly convention in New York that you got these sucky bite from Brian?
	Little Miss Kitty Black Barbie and Peggy the Man Pegger.
	I unintentionally saved some nerd souls tonight.
	Doing the best because in Santa Barbara, there is a anime convention going on right now.
	That's where we got all these people.
	Yeah, I already walked out and Brian came up to me and he said, hey, come on to the podcast right now.
	That's not how I heard it.
	And then I walked over with you.
	That's not how I heard it.
	He's like, hey, check for syphilis.
	Free syphilis testing over here.
	And we're here again.
	Syphilis sisters.
	Dottie.
	All right.
	Victor donated $100.
	Do you think what you do is family empowerment?
	I didn't know.
	TTS is 200 guys, but that came through as well.
	Chair 5, that's you.
	Oh, wait.
	Like, what do you mean, like, family empowerment?
	Do you think putting things in your ass is family empowerment and stretching it to make sure that my parents like to make them proud?
	Yes.
	Oh, I want to know that.
	That's not the question, but I also.
	I want to know the answer to that question.
	Oh, okay.
	So glad you brought that up.
	So, like, as for like my parents, like, my mom doesn't know, but my dad knows, and he's like so chill with it.
	Like, what?
	Oh, wait, but this is wait, adoptive parents or my like foster parents right now.
	I don't talk to my adoptive parents, really.
	Are you okay, girl?
	I'm so fucked up.
	I shouldn't let it go.
	The soundboard always saves the day.
	David felt bad for once.
	Did I seriously just do that again?
	Dude, I'm kicked off.
	I'm never allowed back on this fucking podcast.
	I called you David again.
	What's wrong with me?
	Did you just look like David or something?
	No.
	He's just giving big, like David and David Vibes.
	Chill out, Lucy Goosey.
	Chill out.
	This is why he keeps me.
	Lucy Goosey and the big D. I'm afraid.
	That was too much.
	I love TTS.
	I know.
	I missed it.
	So back to this.
	Yeah, I'm about to see our family impact.
	So they got quite a dad, the dad.
	We were talking about the dad, right?
	And the dad's all for you sticking things in your head.
	He's not like all for it, but he's supportive.
	Yeah, is he your biggest cheerleader?
	Like, no, you can stuff big.
	You don't even know what I do.
	Like, I just say, like, I sell my nudes.
	That's all.
	It's just going to be eight nights.
	Okay.
	You sell your nudes.
	Okay.
	I just want to make sure I got this right.
	Boyfriend, mom was distrustful of you.
	Bad mom.
	Awful.
	Way too involved in kids' life because Hooter Girl got him into OnlyFans.
	But your dad is okay with you selling nudes.
	Is this?
	Yeah, I mean, my parents are just supportive of me, like, whatever.
	Like, they do.
	Like, obviously, they probably are judging from the background, but like, they're my parents, and ultimately, they're going to support me, do whatever I want to do.
	And I'm going to buy them a house.
	Isn't that bad parenting?
	Well, I mean, that's their way of parenting, and I can't, like, judge it.
	Like, I don't change it.
	Like, I don't, because I'm not, like.
	You judged your parents so bad you ran away from home.
	Oh, okay.
	That wasn't necessarily my parents' fault.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But that was a judgment that you made, right?
	That was also my brother's fault, though, too.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but you kind of keep bringing it.
	Let's not go under that.
	Yeah.
	We don't need more tears.
	Right.
	Does anybody else want to cry while we're?
	I'll cry again.
	Okay, Ariana.
	Ariana, what are you doing here?
	Wait, can anybody?
	She's going to do a singing career.
	She's not doing OnlyFans.
	Oh, girl, please.
	Who told you that?
	Let's do a duet.
	Oh, my God.
	Will you be the beat?
	Like, what the fuck?
	Bitch, I will be soprano.
	Okay.
	I'll be boost.
	Oh.
	You got it.
	I'll probably be the show.
	I'm Robert.
	I'm new to the podcast.
	I like just joined.
	Okay, so definitely not a comedy career for you either.
	I don't know.
	I think it could be comedy.
	All right.
	I'm going to get back into the show notes.
	Okay.
	I don't know if we really got into it.
	So you said my hot take is that cute hot girls shouldn't have to work and should just profit off their God-given talent there.
	Oh, well, that kind of led into the OF.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's where we got into it.
	She stretches her ass out.
	And she just got from the point.
	Someone say ask one more time.
	You said that you got with this guy in your small town, then a week later, you got with this guy who hates the first guy you got with.
	Then another week later, you got with another guy who hates both of the previous guys.
	Yeah, it was like a revolution.
	And you're continually talking to all these men and you're fucking them all.
	And you thought it was funny to hear the revolving door of shit talking.
	Yes.
	It was like really funny.
	Wait, question.
	This was during the ho phase, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	How many, and so how many guys, like at this kind of same time period?
	Well, you said it was a month, right?
	What could your boyfriend's mom be thinking?
	I know, like, it's crazy.
	Yeah.
	Um, did you ever see two of them in the same day for sex?
	Oh, I did one time.
	Like, these are like different guys.
	Yeah, the names are like Billy at 5 p.m. Todd at 9 p.m.
	And Bartholomew at Bartholomew.
	Wow, yeah.
	I'm like, boy, Barty.
	The mother of us two, though.
	Two in the 24 hours.
	Yeah.
	What about in a 24-hour period?
	Two, like in a day.
	What about in the 48-hour period?
	How many?
	Like, like three?
	What about in a week?
	Oh, like six?
	Six.
	Literally, like four or five.
	A fortnight.
	How many in a fortnight?
	Like two weeks.
	14 days, yeah.
	Like 10, 11.
	I don't, like.
	Did you all did?
	She just become Latino?
	Did anybody else hear that?
	Like.
	She transformed into a Latina for a moment.
	She is a Tuesday.
	No swear.
	Okay.
	And so many times you said you've let your friends fuck in the back of your car while you're in the front.
	What experience?
	Like, my best friend and like her man, like, we were all super close.
	And like, I don't know, like, they had snuck out one day and I was giving them a ride.
	So like they just wanted to bang in the back seat and it was really cold outside.
	So I wasn't going to go out there and like sit in the cold.
	So they just put like a little thing up and then they did it in the back seat.
	But like we were all super close.
	Like I didn't watch or anything and like the music was blasting.
	So I didn't hear anything, but they were like shaking the car.
	You said that you had a two-man with another couple effing in the back seat.
	Yeah, like they were in the back and then we were in the front.
	Was it two men?
	No, like a two-man.
	Like when you and your friend are both like getting with somebody at the same time.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I see in the same room.
	It was like the same car.
	It's in a car.
	That's crazy.
	How big was the car?
	Oh, no.
	It was smaller.
	How much smaller the men?
	And my foot kept hitting the horn and kept going off.
	And it was not.
	I was smashing in the front.
	Yeah.
	My people laughed at me because they were in the back.
	Was this you?
	No.
	Have you had carinal knowledge in her car?
	No.
	Were these guys competing?
	No, like we were just taking turns.
	Like we were in the front and we did it.
	Like what?
	I mean, what happens?
	Like the one who finishes first, does he lose?
	Okay, the thing is, neither one of them like finished because they were like both on steroids.
	Oh.
	So like they could not like finish.
	So it was like what would steroids have to do with that?
	Like I apparently it causes like Edie or something.
	I don't know.
	How could your boyfriend's mom have been so wrong about that?
	She didn't know any of this.
	That's the thing though.
	Yeah.
	Did she need to?
	I mean.
	And you said your foot kept setting off the horn?
	Yeah, like the car horn.
	I mean, I don't blame the guy.
	I mean, distracting if the car horn is going off.
	But what's more distracting if there's two other people also in the car trying to fuck.
	That's also very distracting.
	I feel like he should have led with that.
	Also, where was the car parked?
	Like, we were like behind, like, it was like a really small town.
	So, like, if you saw it, you would know.
	Like, we were up behind a water park.
	Oh.
	Oh, it's like one of those.
	It's like a parking lot nearby.
	It's like one of those small towns that you're like, you're driving and you just get off.
	And it's like, who would live here?
	Was it abandoned?
	No.
	Like, it was just closed for the winter, though.
	How could a girl?
	It's like one of those water parks where you get listeria from.
	Yes, it was one of those.
	Okay.
	You called your ex over to your house in the middle of your most recent relationship.
	He also had a girlfriend.
	Then that boyfriend broke up with me, so I ripped up his social security card.
	You did do that before.
	Okay, mind you, but this boyfriend, he cheated on me before, like before any of this.
	Like, he made me cry on my birthday.
	He like talked to a girl when I had went to the bathroom.
	So like he had done all of this stuff like way before me.
	And like he knew like we were like not in a good like space like sexually and everything.
	And he was literally, what did you say?
	What does that mean?
	Not in a good space.
	Like we didn't sexually.
	We just weren't fucking and like we just like it wasn't good, you know?
	Was the relationship no like our relationship was fine.
	Like we just like and this was before I was doing OnlyFans too because it was a dead bedroom.
	Yeah.
	And he was like, well, if you want to go fuck another man, like you can and I won't be mad.
	And I didn't.
	And like I only invited my ex over because like I actually don't know why but we only ended up talking but we didn't end up fucking because I looked at him and I was like uh I can't do this.
	You're a fucking liar.
	What the hell?
	Okay.
	And so you ripped.
	But it's okay.
	You were dating a guy and it wasn't going well.
	You called your ex over to your house, but you didn't hook up with him to talk to him.
	We were the boyfriend broke up with you, so you ripped up his social security card.
	No, okay, this was before.
	And it's because he punched a hole in my door.
	Nice.
	And like the back of the door.
	Kyle beats me.
	And the mirror, he break the mirror.
	That's cool.
	Yeah.
	That's awesome.
	Sounds like a good time.
	Sounds like a pleasant, really good guy.
	It was like a really toxic relationship.
	It was me and like him.
	Yeah, you were toxic?
	Yeah, oh, definitely.
	How so?
	I mean, I ripped his social security card up.
	Okay.
	You don't exist anymore.
	That's what I was thinking.
	So you said that you honestly don't believe in love after your last relationship.
	You love men so much.
	Yeah.
	And personally, you can't live without them, but you feel like three-fourths of the men are unloyal.
	Like, look at Megan Fox and MGK.
	Like, if someone will cheat on Megan Fox, a man will cheat on anyone.
	Beyonce, too.
	Yes.
	Like, how can you cheat on Megan Fox?
	Like, come on.
	Oh, I was about to say something.
	I mean, have you seen her recently, though?
	Really?
	Is she like changed?
	She's cheating her Beyonce.
	She looks like a cardio.
	Cheat on Beyonce.
	I was about to say, yeah, I could cheat on Beyonce.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Not that I would cheat, but I could like.
	You can picture it happening.
	That sounds so bad.
	Poor Beyoncé.
	That sounds so bad.
	I mean, every man in the chat's thinking.
	Yeah, you're going to get canceled.
	I could, like, all hail Beyoncé.
	Just don't kill me.
	Yeah, but those guys are like, they're super high-status guys.
	I know.
	Like, I said that again.
	I've added something.
	I was like, it's like has a lot to do with the guys I date to, like, my age range.
	Cause like, I don't know.
	But I mean, you're also fucking crazy, right?
	Okay, just like a bit.
	But like, the thing is, the guy likes to play the guy plays into it.
	Like, this is from the bottom.
	Do you think that you being a fucking lunatic plays in?
	No kidding.
	Like, oh, we're banging to the back.
	Are you buried in the front?
	Yeah, I fuck dirty guys in a month.
	No biggie.
	Like, that's bad shit, crazy stuff, right?
	But that was like.
	It was her phase, Andrew.
	It was her phase.
	I'm not in that phase anymore.
	Now you're in your loyal phase.
	She was on a journey.
	Were you on a journey?
	I am.
	I'm still on it.
	Do you think someday love will find you?
	I mean, hopefully, maybe one day.
	But I think everyone in your life is temporary.
	Yeah, so you would say right now you'd have to go your separate ways.
	Yeah, I mean, with who?
	Or, you know.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I think, like, like, in a nice way, like, I don't know, this isn't going to sound nice, but like saying that, you know, everyone in your life is temporary.
	It sounds like you have unresolved trauma and like from your childhood.
	And like, you know, what I mean to say is, like, everyone.
	She probably does, though.
	I think it's a lot of fun.
	They're all temporary in a way.
	Sure, but like, like, extra, like, you know.
	As in, like, boyfriend, girlfriends, like, you'll always have your parents, but like, I don't know, because even watching my parents growing up, like, they definitely were not happy.
	And, like, they could have been in a way better relationship.
	But it's just like, I don't know, you know?
	But we don't have to follow in our parents' footsteps.
	We could be better.
	You can't be a good person.
	She is being better, though.
	She says she's in our loyal journey.
	Yeah, so she's on a journey like everyone else.
	Okay, let's see.
	You also said, like, like men of God, you can't even trust them.
	So many people claiming to be Christian, subscribe to your OnlyFans.
	Your ex, who was Christian, would only use you for sex.
	He would F other girls when he was out of town, and he made you smoke before when you got sad, so I would be in a better mood just to F.
	Yes, it was crazy.
	Like one time I was like breaking down because like I didn't know what we were because like we were literally just fucking every weekend when he came home from work.
	And I was like, well, what are we?
	Are we like boyfriend, girlfriend?
	Are we like exclusive?
	And he was like, I'm just like not talking about this.
	Hit this pin and then let's fuck.
	And I was like, oh, okay.
	And like that's how it was for like a long time.
	It was just like getting hotels every weekend.
	So, but he was like actively telling me, oh, I love you, and this and that.
	And I don't know.
	Okay.
	You also said dating is so weird.
	I just want to say I, well, you, this is what you said.
	I just want to say I love you and get married, but I refuse to date a man who makes less than me or who has no work ethic to make more money.
	Yeah.
	Like you can make less than me, but if you're not like actively like working towards your goal right now and start pumping out kids.
	I don't mean I don't know if I want kids right now.
	Like that's the thing.
	Okay.
	Even though like it'll destroy my body when I'm 30.
	Okay.
	I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually recommend that you never have kids.
	Okay.
	Never.
	Ever.
	Not ever.
	You're mature and you'll blossom into a beautiful woman.
	Don't worry.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, love.
	Thank you.
	Don't worry.
	She'll have her mom every day.
	You know what?
	She shh.
	Oh, wait.
	You could have kids and find yourself.
	Find yourself.
	Chinese couple to adopt them.
	We would.
	What do you mean?
	I have no idea where it's going.
	It made sense in my brain, but.
	Wait, are you Chinese or?
	Yeah, I'm Chinese.
	No, she's Viet.
	Girl, I'm Chinese.
	Them trying to confuse the white people.
	Yeah.
	No, no, no, is this, so does it just play over better on the OnlyFans if you say you're Chinese instead of Vietnamese?
	No, like, I'm actually, I'm Chinese.
	I promise you, I'm Chinese.
	Really?
	Wait, are you Chinese?
	Yes, dude, it is.
	So it's very strange, though.
	You're like, you're Vietnam.
	Oh, shit.
	Oh, you're Vietnam.
	Oh, shit.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Hang on.
	You're Vietnam.
	Oh, shit.
	Oh, so it sounds like it sounds like perhaps there's a little bit of fibbing going on.
	No, we were panking an Uber driver yesterday.
	Like, I promise I'm from China.
	Yeah, but that doesn't actually tell us if you're Vietnamese or not.
	Oh, I mean, I guess I don't know 100% because I'm adopted.
	So my parents could literally be anyone unless I took a DNA test to find out.
	So wait, why would you say that you're Chinese?
	Because I'm from China.
	I was born in China.
	Wait, wait, hang on.
	Let's pack up.
	What do you want me to say?
	Well, I just want to know the truth.
	So she says, you're Vietnamese.
	Cut, catches.
	Hang on, hang on.
	She cut.
	Bullshit.
	That was a joke.
	Holy shit.
	Andrew.
	Andrew, I was joking.
	I'm sure you were.
	All right.
	Anyways, we'll move on.
	We're going to get into my Vietnamese best friend.
	Okay, Riley, you said how this dude just got out of jail and how we were in the Kanes parking lot and his mother called and said to bring back food.
	But the whole time, it was not his mother and it was actually his girlfriend on the phone.
	And they were speaking Spanish and I don't know Spanish.
	So he lied and translated what she was saying.
	But the whole time, it was his girl on speakerphone.
	And I bought food that he brought back to his girl.
	Wait a minute.
	Wow, baby.
	I'm taking care of her.
	And then she texted me and she was all like, he's just my toy.
	And we weren't even a thing.
	And like, it was so much.
	And I met him from my own co-worker.
	Can you spell a little bit more?
	Well, before we do that, he just got out of jail.
	So.
	Yeah, he asked me to pay.
	Oh, you bailed him out.
	No, I didn't, but his homeboy dates because he was also.
	What was he in jail for?
	I don't know.
	Details.
	Details.
	I don't know.
	You don't know?
	No.
	Murder?
	No.
	Petty theft.
	I don't know.
	They want to tell you what he's saying.
	They want to tell me.
	Was he gang affiliated?
	Maybe.
	That sounds like danger.
	You also wrote how everyone, I don't know if this is like a disagreement or what.
	How everyone sees only fans, girls, as easy or a 3-0.
	I mean, are they wrong?
	Yes.
	They are.
	Are they wrong with you?
	I mean, what?
	Did you say that you just.
	That was because my manager wrote some of that.
	Oh, yeah.
	We thought they made it down there.
	Oh my goodness.
	Good job.
	Wait.
	Media managing clearly.
	Yeah, that made me.
	Yeah, I feel like because I was in a group chat and everyone was like talking about like I'm a bop and I'm easy and I'm this and that because I do OF but like in reality I do it like solo to like I don't like just go fuck anybody, you know?
	Like I don't I have five bodies like I don't know yeah I feel like that's normal.
	Yeah.
	You know what since it just came up why don't we get into it?
	Some of you already actually stated your body counts but why don't we just starting with you body count no comment you already already told me you already said it you already said okay you can't remember can you no you can't remember what you said no I do remember because I do keep a count and it is 32.
	Yep.
	All right.
	Body count you can go ahead and check out that last video.
	Just say it.
	Come on.
	I think we said 25.
	I stopped counting.
	Wait, you think we said 25?
	I don't remember what the final number we landed on was last night.
	Yeah.
	Remember I showed it to Miss Canada?
	Yeah, so it's just men and women both.
	Yeah.
	It was around 25.
	Does the specifics matter?
	Yes.
	It's somewhere between 25 and 30.
	Okay.
	Body count?
	10.
	10?
	I think like 12.
	Okay.
	I don't know my body count.
	Range.
	Range.
	This is where it's hard because I had a list, but there's more.
	Hang on, hang on.
	I'll try to make it super easy.
	Okay.
	More than 60.
	For sure, less.
	Maybe less.
	Probably less than 60.
	Okay.
	More than 50.
	No, you know what?
	I'm going to say.
	Anyways, I'm going to say it's probably like, I don't know.
	It's probably around 40.
	Somewhere around 40.
	Could it be higher than 40?
	It could be higher or it could be lower.
	I literally have no idea.
	It could be higher than 40.
	Is it going to be higher than 46?
	What's up with that number?
	Yeah, why 406?
	Because if you offer a person a five, they'll always take it.
	Oh, that makes sense.
	I mean, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I feel like it would probably be less.
	Okay, less.
	Probably less.
	Yeah.
	So in the 40s, somewhere, probably.
	Yeah, 30s or 40s, probably.
	Okay.
	Oh, God.
	I hate this.
	19.
	19?
	Okay.
	Like 50-something.
	50-something.
	What about you?
	Five.
	Five.
	Wait, 50?
	Yeah.
	And you're 18?
	Yeah, sorry.
	See, if you offer someone a five, they always take it.
	Double it, give it to the next person.
	And when did you lose the V card?
	Like when I was like 13 or 14?
	Yeah.
	Same.
	I don't know.
	Of the 50 bodies?
	You know what you're looking at like that?
	It's probably around the same age.
	No, wasn't it?
	No, I was like 16.
	Okay.
	Of the 50, would you say most of them came in the past like year?
	No.
	No.
	Two years?
	Past two years?
	So you did like 49 at 15?
	No, they came like most of them came from high school, like my high school era.
	Like I just was everybody at school.
	Everybody at school?
	And then after high school, I just continued.
	Yeah.
	50 people apparently.
	Not all 50.
	Probably like 20-something.
	Just most of them.
	Yeah.
	No.
	I'm sorry.
	I wasn't 102.
	I wasn't 9.2.
	Damn, things have changed.
	Like, I feel like I'm much older, but one of my schools step with like two guys, and they were like, they canceled.
	Like, yeah, so I'm like, with only two?
	Like, yeah, like, one or two, like, people like, oh my gosh, she's a slut.
	That's crazy.
	And so then, like, you know, I feel like the younger generation is just out here fucking.
	For sure.
	Like, it's crazy.
	What's your body count?
	Oh, good question.
	Andrew?
	I has grown age.
	Yes, Andrew.
	Your body count.
	Why won, of course.
	One.
	What's your body count?
	One can't troll us.
	You can't be trolling.
	Andrew.
	All you fucking brats.
	All you fucking brats are going to lie to me.
	I can fucking lie to all of you.
	No, you can't.
	I allow your lie lie detector test.
	I can see it on your fucking TV.
	Daddy, I'm fucking remember the number you told us last time.
	You can't remember the number you told us fucking two hours ago.
	Like, just stop the coke.
	Stop the coke.
	So one.
	When you fucking brats start telling the truth, I'll stop.
	Listen, I was going to lie.
	I'm not going to lie.
	But I just had to do a lie detector test on stream.
	So that's like the same question.
	I was going to lie, but then they pulled.
	You can pull up the clip.
	Answer the answer to the question.
	I pulled up last podcast.
	Shniko Zero Ford donated $500.
	Pop champagne.
	A little higher.
	Brian and Andrew, whatever and Crucible teams wanted to say thank you for all of the content this year.
	Thank you.
	Brian, I appreciate your patience.
	Andrew, your role, modeling.
	I don't know about the patience.
	Merry Christmas to you too.
	Thank you for the champagne pop.
	And yeah, it has been great seeing the Crucible crew and the whatever kind of tangle up.
	It's always a fun time for both chats, I think.
	Nico, thank you so much, man, for the very generous champagne pop.
	Do appreciate it.
	And appreciate your kind words.
	Guys, W's in the chat for Nico.
	Wait, that's...
	W's in the chat for our good friend Nico.
	Really good to see you in the chat, man.
	I also would like to wish you a Merry Christmas as well.
	We're going to get this popped in just a moment.
	50, you say.
	50, you say.
	She says, give me some more.
	All right.
	She's a slut and she knows it.
	Here comes the whole world.
	Hell yeah.
	Well done.
	Good song.
	I like that.
	You guys still want some champagne?
	These are their copes.
	Yeah, we threw those in.
	Did you do that on my seventh cigarette break?
	While I'm getting the champagne poured, do any of you guys have like a how about this?
	Any of you have a disagreement with the show that you want to talk about?
	Any disagreements?
	Going once, going twice?
	Andrew, your face every time.
	It's mine called for.
	What?
	Huh?
	This happened?
	Wait, what?
	Are you serious?
	Like, you have that.
	This is your glasses.
	That's hers.
	That's hers.
	Yeah, I know, but you're just talking shit.
	I was the chugger.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	You can check it if you want.
	All right, all right.
	Say please.
	Please.
	Fuck no.
	Oh, that wasn't really sweet.
	Please, Due.
	He's adorable.
	I want to say that's a disagreement.
	It was more like a...
	That's true.
	No.
	I don't know who that is.
	No clue.
	I will say.
	It's not mine, because I gave the glass.
	Here, just give it a year.
	If I get syphilis.
	It's not my glass.
	Sorry, Rachel.
	I'm 20.
	I can't have alpha.
	This is yours.
	This isn't a disagreement, but I'm still waiting for the.
	That's hers.
	Which one?
	That's what I want.
	I still want the Brian reaction sticker pack That we talked about.
	I don't know what that is.
	It's fine.
	Whatever.
	Pass it down.
	Thank you.
	I disagree that you guys serve cold pizza.
	100%.
	Why did you?
	One popular opinion, that's a crime.
	That is a very popular opinion.
	In Brian's defense, he doesn't get every panel pizza.
	It's true.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	But the fact that it's cold, I have to say, it's a crime.
	Well, we can't microwave it because it fucks with our Wi-Fi.
	It literally intercepts.
	This kind of monster hates cold pizzas anyway.
	And it's monstrous.
	Wait, you wanted honesty?
	Holy shit.
	No, I don't know about honesty.
	I was going to ask this, but I got nervous.
	I just said what everyone else was thinking.
	All right.
	This is for our good friend Nico.
	Cheers to Nico.
	I don't have anything in my glasses.
	Merry Christmas, Salu.
	Salo.
	Salu.
	Merry Christmas.
	And may all of you find Krinoski.
	Merry Christmas.
	We all find husbands.
	May none of you get husbands.
	Have babies.
	Again.
	Oh, thanks.
	Again.
	We got wrongful rage here.
	Thank you, man.
	Wrongful rage donated $200.
	It was such a small town.
	Instead of doing the Mad Tango in the barn-like normal hillbillies, they decided to screw with friends in a car.
	Straight coomer billies.
	It's true.
	They're gooner billies.
	Goonerbillies.
	Coomer Billy.
	Gooners.
	All right.
	Thank you, ma'am.
	So a coomer is a guy who sucks men's dicks.
	Oh, boy.
	But then also has sex with a woman he's in an open relationship with and loses her to a twink on a stink.
	That's a coomer.
	I can't believe there's a definition for that word.
	And it means that.
	Thank you.
	Are we talking about my boyfriend?
	Yeah.
	Does your boyfriend's name start with a D?
	He's texting her right now.
	Like, did you just say, wait, wait, does it start with a.
	Wait, wait, does your boyfriend's name start with an S?
	No.
	At least she's funny.
	Yeah.
	Honestly.
	But that would be funny.
	She owns it.
	I love her.
	We could probably set them up with them.
	What?
	You know a couple guys?
	I know one guy who owns it.
	Is it Brian?
	Lucy Goosey, read this for us, please.
	Can you girls just make one promise to at least have five children?
	Except for her.
	This nation will be Islam in the next few generations if we continue to have declining birth rates.
	Oh boy.
	We need men to fight the good fight.
	If Islam takes over, goodbye, woman's rights.
	Hello, sister wives.
	Here, here.
	All right.
	Nasin LA, thank you for the soup, Chat Man.
	Do appreciate it.
	Five children.
	I want seven.
	Oh, you did bring that up last night.
	Seven little Adelaide sons.
	Seven sons.
	So I don't care if we have, if we gotta go through ten daughters, we're getting seven sons.
	That sounds like he wants his own little army.
	Times where they had to be like, I want an air, heir, please.
	Give me an air.
	To take over the whatever podcast.
	Yes, I need to do it.
	Okay, that's really important.
	Very bad for your wife.
	Me too.
	Seven little you's.
	Like, I don't, I just, I don't even know you, but.
	Well, society means society is still patrilineal.
	So, I mean, there's a reason you take the husband's last name.
	There's a reason your kids get the husband's last name.
	He's all right.
	It's still patron.
	Seven, though.
	It's a lot.
	And then with like five.
	Yeah, but what if some of them die?
	That's true.
	From what sex?
	From the Lord.
	Well, you know, you say.
	So I'm trying to help.
	Be careful, Brian.
	You never know.
	What does that mean?
	Be careful with a woman like you.
	Yeah, what does that mean?
	You never know if you might have like a daughter with syphilis or chlamydia.
	Wait.
	What?
	Brian, I shook your hand last time.
	I might have syphilis.
	Oh, man.
	Oh, boy.
	Okay.
	This is just like taking sex education back 100 years right now.
	Guys, you cannot get syphos from the middle.
	We got a raid from Rachel a couple minutes ago.
	I think she sent over a raid.
	Yo, Rachel, thank you for the raid.
	Yo, everybody in the Crucible, thank you so much for joining us here on the whatever stream.
	So do appreciate it, guys.
	Good to see you guys in the chat.
	Hope you guys had a good stream over there with Rachel.
	Crucible crew.
	Nice to see you guys over here.
	All right.
	We had to tangle up with these fucking whatever D-Gens.
	Gotta give away.
	El Barbian.
	Yes, that is.
	Your Instagram description says Sola Princess.
	Sulani.
	It is another Afro terminology that describes like Afro descendants that were enslaved here.
	So it's just another kiddo name.
	What you?
	Oh, you read my bio?
	Oh.
	Okay.
	Proceed.
	You said, also, it says join the hashtag dolls unite community.
	What is that?
	I have like a community of dolls, and we just like, I don't know, it's just like my little old click on Instagram that I made.
	So it's like hashtag does unite.
	What is there, like, what is the dolls thing?
	So it's like basically, yeah, but like more like I do like makeup challenges.
	So like every month I'll do a makeup challenge and they'll use like hashtag dolls unite to earn like a free prize or whatever.
	So that's just like a little way to engage like my audience.
	Yeah, you said also you were talking to a criminal who stole cars.
	So you're dating him.
	So that's a good story to start off with, I guess.
	So when I moved to Chicago from the suburbs, I was like new to the whole scenery and I was new to the whole city life.
	And I had met a couple of friends who introduced me to this one guy who stole a U-Haul truck.
	And I'm sorry.
	Tell them the story.
	What was he putting it in?
	What was he putting in this U-Haul truck?
	He would just randomly steal.
	He wasn't putting anything.
	He would just randomly steal U-Haul trucks.
	And it's like easy to do in Chicago.
	Does it cleft over?
	Grand Theft Trucks.
	Grand Theft trucks.
	He would just drive them around.
	Yeah.
	He would drive them around, basically doing like Grand Theft Auto.
	Like he was like, he went to jail for stealing some shoes, I think, at a warehouse.
	And it was like at two o'clock in the morning.
	And they got, they arrested him, but he's released now.
	So I don't know what he's doing.
	And you dated this guy?
	I didn't really date because he was talking to this other guy.
	You just smashed with this guy?
	I was, yeah, I was in a situation ship.
	So all those, all those red flags, you know, I was all that toxic masculinity.
	I didn't know he did it until he went to jail.
	That's why, like, that's when I knew it.
	Okay, let me ask you a question then.
	Uh-huh.
	Did you still talk to him after he got out of jail?
	No.
	Did you talk to him while he was in jail?
	No, I'm not the woman.
	Okay, I am not loyal to a man in jail.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay.
	No offense.
	But I'm not.
	I mean, he just, you know, stole U-Haul trucks and we rode around with them downtown in the south side of Chicago.
	So why did you want to fucking ride around at a U-Haul in Chicago?
	Why?
	I thought it would be.
	Hey, baby, you want to get my U-Haul?
	Go for a ride.
	I thought it was a story.
	I got some furniture back here.
	We can get that.
	What the fuck?
	I literally thought it was for the fun of it, but he kept stealing so many U-Hauls.
	I have to know the number.
	I have to know how many he stole.
	I think he stole like five when the time I met him.
	Damn.
	How many of them did you ride in with him?
	Just two.
	Oh, five.
	The Chicago PD sucks if he stole five U-Hauls before he got caught.
	They suck in general.
	They don't.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Don't go to the bottom.
	So you basically cruised around in 30% of his stolen property.
	Pretty much.
	But like, this is all alleged, by the way, in case the police are watching.
	She's not an accessory to this.
	Yeah, I'm not.
	Small joke.
	Do not call the post.
	Allegedly.
	But yeah, he just, we just rode around on U-Haul trucks and he's like smoking.
	So was the allure that the truck was stolen?
	No.
	The allure was.
	The allure was, well, one, he was very, like, very attractive.
	And two, he put up a good game.
	And I was like, okay, you're cute.
	So I'll get in your U-Haul with you.
	Yeah.
	Did you ride in the middle seat?
	No, I rode on the back, like, or it was like empty.
	By yourself?
	Are you sure this wasn't Stockholm syndrome?
	He didn't kidnap you, right?
	How many people was he hauling in this U-Haul?
	There's me.
	There's me and another girl.
	Oh, not like that.
	Not like that.
	But like, he was friends because he was friends with another criminal.
	Man, I was doing dating all wrong.
	All I need to do is run a U-Haul and be like, hey, baby, you want to go back my U-Haul?
	And we were just like riding out.
	Yeah, you want to ride in the back of my U-Haul?
	There's another chick back there.
	Yeah, she was back there, and I was like, oh, I'll join.
	And then I just hopped in.
	I was, you know, I was.
	Where were you guys sitting?
	On the floor?
	No.
	He couldn't even sell you guys a couch, something to sit on?
	No, he didn't have that.
	He was broke.
	Did you guys hop in?
	Well, wait, I would have hopped in.
	I killed a U-Haul, but not a couch?
	What sort of gentleman criminal is this?
	Gentleman criminal.
	I guess not a gentleman criminal at all.
	Unbelievable.
	All those red flags, all those toxic masculine.
	I just can't believe it.
	I would never see it coming.
	Yeah.
	It kind of sounds fun.
	I'm not going to lie.
	Guys, I know what we're going to do tonight.
	I like an adventure.
	It was really, really fun.
	I'm not going to lie to you.
	That was the best experience that I had thus far.
	Besides other experiences, was sitting in the back of a U-Haul.
	That was stolen.
	That's all she needs, you guys.
	Somebody was driving around.
	Yeah, because it was just like, this is like, this was, at the time, it was like dangerous, but like, you know, it was like the thrill of it, like, the rush.
	Like, oh, this could be like in a movie type of boarding.
	The adrenaline.
	Yeah, the adrenaline.
	It could have been like a caddy, but no, a U-Haul.
	Yeah, that's what I'm tripping on.
	There's been an occasion in my life where I just have to say I'm the most boring man in the world.
	Totally okay with it.
	It's okay, Andrew.
	Don't worry.
	I'd rather have boring than yes.
	What a bush.
	I didn't really know you wouldn't.
	Drive around the back of a U-Haul.
	It's unbelievable.
	Should I get the pickles?
	Should I get the pickles?
	We haven't gotten the pickles yet.
	No.
	Are we allowed to eat them afterwards?
	No.
	After a big strong man opens them for us.
	Yes, you can't eat the pickles.
	Come on to think of it.
	Isn't myself we all get to try to open one?
	I ordered three jars, so we'll see.
	Are you want to open it?
	I think, okay.
	You also wanted to talk about interracial dating, what I'm assuming, because your boyfriend's white or whatever.
	Yeah, he's white.
	And people, they stare.
	I hate.
	Junior Polaks.
	He's like, it's so crazy because people, especially on social media, they're always like, oh, you're trying to be white.
	And I'm like, no, I just want to be a Barbie doll.
	And then they see my white boyfriend and they're like, oh, yeah, you really want to be white now.
	So it's.
	Do you tell them he's a Polak though?
	They, baby, they know that he's Polish, but they still think that he's Ameranian or like Jewish or something.
	Because he doesn't look Polish, if that makes any sense.
	But like, then again, like, I don't really know how Polish people truly look like.
	But like with him, it's always like people just stare and they're just like they'll stare for like five seconds at the max.
	I'm like, what are you staring for?
	Switch it up here.
	All right, moving to Alexis 18, you do only fans.
	You've had so many unique dating experiences, but the one that you laugh at every time is this crazy dude you were only in the talking stage with, but he swore you guys were dating.
	He never even asked you to be his girlfriend.
	Anyways, he used to want to be on the phone with you 24-7.
	Mm-hmm.
	One hell of a word.
	She said what she said.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, do you want to just tell us the brief?
	So basically, I met this dude.
	He went to like some Juvie school.
	And that should have been my red flag right there to like run away, but I didn't.
	And, you know, like, we talked a lot and stuff like that.
	And he swore that we were dating.
	And it was just crazy to me because, like, again, never asked me.
	So, like, I wouldn't count it.
	But, like, he would be on the phone with me all the time.
	And he wanted to do like Zoom calls.
	If his phone died, he would like make me call him on his on my computer on his computer so we could do zoom calls.
	And if I didn't, he would come to my house.
	Oh.
	Like, literally come to my house, bang on the door, and swear that I was like cheating on him or something.
	Fair point.
	I did cheat on him before.
	So this girl is a serial.
	We weren't even dating.
	Oh, so you didn't cheat on him technically?
	Exactly.
	Okay.
	But then, so yeah.
	And then what really got me was because when I tried to end things with him and stopped talking to him, he came to my house.
	I didn't let him in.
	So he used a butter knife to try and pick my lock at my house.
	And then when he couldn't get in, I mean, when he did get in, like, I was genuinely scared.
	Like, what?
	I stayed with him for like a minute.
	I did with him for like I kept talking to him for like a long time like a year Because you were fearful, like, four years old.
	I wasn't fearful.
	I was just like, dang, you really like me.
	Like, you didn't break into my house and said, you're not like him.
	You mustn't really like me.
	But you said, you said you started crying.
	You said you started crying.
	Oh, yeah, he was crying.
	He was crying.
	Okay.
	But he didn't want to be out of contact with you for longer than 10 minutes.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like, if I didn't answer the phone, that thing he would come to my house.
	Was he insecure?
	Very.
	Okay.
	Very.
	Okay.
	He would be too if you cheated on me, girl.
	It was technicality.
	Yeah, cheating if I wasn't with your ass.
	Now we're going to Tappy's.
	Taubby's?
	It's like Tabby cat, but like Tappies.
	What?
	Looks cute.
	Gotcha.
	And but your name's actually, it's Ruby, right?
	Yes.
	That's your real name?
	Yes.
	You said you've gone on so many lame dates.
	Yes.
	One was to Walmart and one guy begging to meet at Kroger.
	Yes.
	Wait.
	Okay.
	So I had my dating app phase.
	That was an era.
	Like a really, this was a really short era.
	Maybe like half of a month or so.
	And I would like scroll and talk with people, you know, normal dating app things.
	And I went with this one guy.
	He seemed pretty all right, pretty promising.
	And he was like, yeah, I'll like take you on a date.
	And I was like, like, I really want to go on a date and have a dating experience.
	I like have only been on maybe like three or four official dates.
	Hold on.
	You've.
	If you had to describe your other experiences, how would you describe them?
	What other experiences, like when dating versus like casual versus.
	When you say the word only, it would indicate that your previous experiences with men were what?
	Like you just go over to their house and have sex with them?
	Yes.
	Man, they've done that.
	Got it.
	Sorry, I was thinking, I was really thinking about the, oh, what, like, do I really consider as like a date?
	Because versus like an official date versus like not a date.
	Right.
	I was thinking of that, at that.
	Yeah.
	And but so you said you wanted to start going on proper dates.
	Yeah.
	And I had recently moved in that whole year that after I graduated, I moved like five times.
	And this was after one of my most recent times moving.
	And so I was like, sure, let's like try this.
	And he was like, I'll take you on a date, girl.
	Like, do the whole nines.
	And so I did the whole nines.
	I got ready.
	I was really cute.
	He pulls up and it's like it's a car.
	It's a car.
	Oh.
	It's definitely a vehicle.
	The nice thing about the car, though, was once I got in it and was like talking with him a bit, his bass speakers, they were sound woofers.
	Subwoofers.
	Yeah, subwoofers.
	But the bass was so, so loud.
	And he was like, we were trying to yell over it and talk.
	And like my voice kept cracking and breaking.
	And then at the end of our date, when he like dropped me off, obviously when he went to Walmart, we just walked around.
	And he was like, kissing the book aisle.
	And I was like, I don't think so.
	I don't think so.
	At least take the lady to Costco.
	Bring in the big books.
	If you could take me on a date to a Walmart and we could have a good time, we can get married tomorrow.
	Okay.
	If you can have fun with a guy in a Walmart and like you're having a great time, then you can have fun doing anything.
	I think that's so valid.
	But this was an experience and not the date that I was hoping for.
	And we drove around.
	Honestly, his music was really good.
	And he loved RB.
	And he had a beautiful voice.
	But once I got home, I was like, I'm not listening to music on my way to work tomorrow.
	Like, it's going to be a silent car ride.
	Wait, what do you mean?
	Because his subwoofer's bass was so loud that I had the worst headache ever and like my ears were ringing.
	I see.
	And so I was like, no noise for a while.
	Okay.
	But you've gone on a bunch of land dates.
	Yes, ones like that where they just like because what I thought dating was when I was younger would be like at least to like both be dressed up cute and like I don't really care about like flowers.
	Sure, opening the door is really nice.
	Buying the mule is really nice.
	But to just go to a place like Walmart and walk around versus like a park or something where it's more of an engaging and fun experience to do.
	Which I love casual times with people.
	Like I'm a quality time spender person.
	That's my love language.
	Quality time is my love language.
	And so I love hanging out.
	I love chilling.
	I love doing errands with people.
	But as a first date, it definitely was not.
	Describe the ideal first date for you?
	Ideal first date.
	This is my picturesque one.
	Okay.
	So we like go to the park and have charcuterie and like have a cute little photo moment.
	And then we go and get ice cream.
	And then like at the park, we're like walking around.
	You know, the birds are like, tweet, tweet, tweet.
	And like, there's like a little dog and it's like just having fun eating a disc of like a frisbee.
	And not like not your turing, like, nom, nom, nom.
	Like, the dog is just playing with the frisbee, okay?
	Like, like, that's just going on in the scenery.
	I'm really setting the scene.
	You're really setting the scene.
	I'm there.
	I'm there.
	And then, like, we get ice cream, and then it's gonna be like, oh, the sun is setting.
	Thank you for that.
	Yeah, so, um, have you ever taken a guy on a date?
	I sounds like a no.
	I like took my most recent one and we went and did things.
	I did try and initiate it and try and have planning sort of set up.
	But other than that, not really, no.
	Interesting because earlier you said you paid multiple times 50-50 on dates.
	Well, with the one that I'm with right now, and even on times before where I've had friends with benefits, and we like get something to eat, like a pizza or something, I've split before.
	But you said you're single.
	I said I was talking to.
	You said you've been single for three years.
	Do you?
	Yeah, I've been like single and in and out of Friends with Benefits relationships.
	How long have you been seeing this current guy?
	This current one since the beginning of October.
	Right.
	Yeah, I think that's very strange, though.
	Where are all these first dates where you paid 50-50?
	First dates where I paid 50-50.
	I'd say I've been on like for what I consider technical real dates when I went on them before it was honestly our parents paying and then ever since like I'd gone on sort of dates with my friends with benefits but like it's not like my official date.
	Wait, hold on.
	You said you recently planned out, but I'm talking about first dates.
	So the first date with the current guy that you're seeing, did you pay or did he pay?
	I offered to and he was like, no, like I'm paying for this.
	We went and got this nice bird.
	You never actually paid for a first date.
	I guess in technicalities, no, but I have offered all the time ever since.
	Like it's not really a technicality.
	You just haven't ever paid on a first date, right?
	It's not super technical.
	Just either you paid for the date.
	Yeah, you're right.
	You're right.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But also.
	So here's my dilemma with this.
	Is that you said that you also have experiences where the men on these dating apps would say, come over, and you would, and you would immediately fuck them.
	So like other men, why should other men put in effort when you've just gone over to men's houses and fucked them right away?
	It depends on what the other person is wanting.
	When I was talking with these people before, I said explicitly, like, let's go on a date versus let's go hook up.
	You go down and grab the pickles.
	The pickles.
	The pickles.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	This is so important.
	Sorry, so go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	It's going to be Indiana Trolls and the Jar of Doom this evening.
	But anyway, go ahead.
	In the times before I would be like, I want to go on a date.
	This is, I'm like on Tinder before versus like short-term fun, blah, blah, blah.
	I would be like, either more promiscuous if it was just for hooking up or like, let's go on a date.
	Let's just try and have fun and go on a date.
	And so when I said, let's go on a date, I didn't think it would be Walmart.
	But like, I don't understand.
	It would occur to me that, I mean, you personally don't find some of these dates like appealing, or the guy picked you up in a shitty car or whatever.
	No, I didn't understand.
	I mean, isn't that a greater deal of effort that's been expended by the man than just being like, hey, come over, let's fuck.
	So it's just like you have had those experiences.
	I'm just like, try to imagine these two parallels.
	Parallel one, guy you just think is really hot and you're horny one night.
	So you call him, he comes over, you hook up.
	Okay.
	Guy number two, you're dating.
	You really like him.
	He finds out by the second date that you've done this with men previously.
	And you say, but listen, it's not you.
	I really like you.
	I was just really horny one night and this guy was hot and I wanted to hook up.
	Doesn't guy number two feel like shit now?
	Like doesn't guy number two go, well, wait a second.
	What do I get here?
	I feel like that's like an individual case-by-case basis, though.
	Yeah, and so we're talking about two individual cases.
	Yeah.
	Case one, you hook up with a guy within minutes, right?
	Because you just want to.
	Guy number two, you don't, right?
	Guy number two wants to hook up, but you're making him wait, right?
	Whatever reason, you're making him wait.
	You say to him, somehow this comes up as a topic of conversation.
	You tell him about guy number one.
	How would that not make guy number two feel like total shit?
	He definitely would feel like total shit.
	If I were guy number two, I would be so sad, Badge.
	I'd be like, why doesn't she want me?
	Exactly.
	And it's not to butt in, but also to butt in.
	I feel like if they wanted you for more than just your body, like you should feel better about that.
	Because the one night Sam would probably have the one night stand.
	Maybe you're right.
	No, I just, I only give my body to men I hate.
	No, not even that.
	But like one night Sam.
	Oh, you know what?
	That's fair, sweetheart.
	You're right.
	You know, you only give your body to men you hate.
	That's fair.
	Like, imagine that.
	Imagine it, though.
	I am imagining it.
	Like, personally, like, I would feel better if a man wanted to wait to have sex with me until we've had an actual conversation.
	It's not about you.
	We're talking about the man.
	Yeah, well, she doesn't know what men think.
	We're not talking about how you feel.
	We're talking about how a man would feel knowing that you had other men you had sex with.
	Knock it off.
	Right?
	That you had other men you had sex with.
	And then you made him wait.
	I have no idea how a man would feel.
	How do you think you would feel?
	I just, I have no idea.
	You have no idea.
	I would imagine a man trying to feel better about himself.
	What about you?
	How would you feel in that situation?
	Of course, I'd be like, oh, you fucked this other dude upon minutes of meeting him because you were horny one night, but you want me to wait.
	That would make no sense.
	That would make me think, wow, you really like that guy and must really not like me very much.
	I can put it in the way.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Is the light bulb?
	I feel like there's a light bulb.
	And it's like, it's like about to just ding and the whole room is going to get illuminated.
	I mean, it really depends on the guy, though.
	I mean, for you, you would say, like, you would feel pretty shitty.
	You would say that.
	Every guy on planet Earth would feel shitty.
	Brian, would you feel shitty if you found out that so-and-so, the girl that you were talking to or whatever, she had sex with another guy, but she wanted you to wait?
	How would you feel about it?
	Yeah, that's dog shit.
	That's his, it's actually his argument.
	Oh, that's your, oh, okay.
	It's his argument.
	Okay, okay.
	But I mean, let me ask you, let me ask you the same question in reverse.
	A guy's like, oh, yeah, baby, this chick just came down, and you know, I just fought a fucker.
	That's all.
	But you, I really like you, so we need to take it slow.
	Well, the past is in the past, and I'm the future.
	All right, she's not, it's not worth engaging with her.
	She wanted to say that.
	Oh, I was just going to say, I'm just like, gonna say that women also can feel this in like the way of like, for me, I don't like doing one-night stands.
	I want a relationship.
	Generally, I want to date until I can kind of feel if this is going to be serious, and I don't want to be intimate with someone until I know that that's the page they're on.
	But guys, a lot of guys I know, they expect that they don't want to, they need to have sex with you to see if they want to be in a relationship with you.
	But in general, the same guy who's saying, I'm not ready for a relationship, could date the next girl like that, you know.
	Does that make sense?
	Yeah, well, so I do think that makes sense.
	I'm sorry.
	I didn't even understand it.
	But I'm trying to.
	I think she's saying that she would probably feel.
	I'm just saying that there's also like women also can feel like you're talking about men and how men feel.
	Also, same women go through this thing as well where men look at them like they're just a piece of ass and not a relationship.
	Why don't I tell me if this is what's going on?
	So let's say you were dating a guy for like a year, but it was kind of a situationship and he was like, you know, I'm just kind of like, I don't, I'm not sure what I want right now.
	Like, you're really great, but you know, I just want to take things slow.
	I'm not going to point in my life where I'm ready for long-term relationship.
	You guys break up.
	Two weeks later, he's engaged to another woman.
	Is that kind of what you're talking about?
	Not a year.
	That's a long time to like let me know.
	Some women are in situationships for.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, just like in general, like guys often, I've seen with my friends and like, you know, personal experiences, a guy's like, oh, I'm not ready for a relationship.
	I just want to hook up where I'm just like, I'm good then.
	Like, you know, but or they're actively pursuing you.
	And then they're literally in a, they have a whole girlfriend like five days later and it's like on Instagram or something like that.
	That has happened.
	Wait, I'm just, I'm confused because it's like, like, here's why I say girls are so confusing, but I'm confused right now about what men want because you don't want a girl to be promiscuous and sleep with you on the first date, but you're going to be mad if she doesn't sleep with you on the first date.
	I think there are more so like just a moment devil's advocate with that.
	What do men want?
	What do men want?
	I think what men want.
	Well, it depends on if they're following secular ethics or Christian ethics or some other ethical form.
	So from Brian's perspective, it makes total sense to me.
	He says, okay, if you're willing to sleep with a dude the first night you meet him, but you want to make me wait, that's basically signaling to me that you don't want me.
	I can't argue with that.
	I don't know how to argue with that because how else could it make you feel?
	Like they crave something more meaningful than just intimacy.
	But okay, so here, but if it's more meaningful, though, why would you give the intimacy to the guy who it wasn't meaningful with?
	Yeah, it's like you that like that that's counterintuitive.
	Like you said it yourself, though, if in this hypothetical, the girl's horny.
	Yeah, just like a guy's horny.
	Yeah.
	So the assumption is that now Brian doesn't make you horny, right?
	In this hypothetical.
	You know what?
	That makes sense a little bit, but not a lot, but a little bit.
	Because would you question, you'd be like, what's wrong with me?
	Why can't you have sex with me?
	That would be like that would fuck with my head.
	How about this?
	So imagine a guy who introduced his friends, family, spends quality, long romantic dates, revealed his emotional side with girls he just wanted to smash, but with girls he saw long-term potential, he just booty called them.
	He left straight away afterwards.
	Like, that's the difference.
	Does that make sense?
	No.
	No.
	Not at all.
	Because, like, well, that's pretty much saying what I'm saying.
	You're kind of agreeing with me.
	The reason it doesn't make sense is Brian's point.
	So he's giving you the reverse.
	Yeah, but the reverse is my.
	He says, would it make sense?
	Would it make sense in the reverse if a guy wanted a long-term commitment with you, but then just did a booty call and then never talked to you again?
	That makes no sense.
	Exactly.
	So the person that I might booty call, I don't want a long-term commitment with, but so when I'm getting to know, I would.
	Yeah, right.
	That's the point, though.
	Wait, wait, I don't.
	I think I messed up.
	I messed up.
	I messed up.
	I'm trying to give you like, okay, it's like.
	Well, I'm not a man, so I feel like at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what I would think about it.
	Yeah, it's truly up to you.
	You can't put yourself in the shoes of the opposite person.
	I'm really trying.
	I'm really trying.
	Can you put your shoes in the R?
	Yeah.
	Oh, because as a woman, like you said, every woman could get sex if she wanted to.
	So do you feel that the man would be disrespecting the woman if he agreed to have sex with her on a first date?
	That's a separate conversation.
	No, but I mean like.
	I just can't answer very quickly, right?
	From my ethical purview, yes.
	So then that's not the kind of man that you'd want to be seeing long-term if they agree to have sex with you on a first date.
	If they'd rather wait for you, then that sounds like a long-term partner.
	It does, but we still come into the same conundrum.
	Okay.
	So the problem is: sure, I agree with you that let's say a woman propositioned a man and he's following Christian ethics, he should turn her down.
	Sure.
	But then in that case, and that man probably would have to do that.
	It really has nothing to do with the idea of a man.
	Let's say he's a Christian man.
	He's dating a woman.
	Okay.
	She reveals to him that she wanted to have sex with these two previous men to him, but now she wants him to wait.
	Right?
	It's still the same conundrum either way.
	It's still going to make him feel like shit either way.
	Well, that sucks that his feelings got.
	Yeah, because I was like, why would you allow that to happen?
	I feel like the woman probably wouldn't also tell him.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but how does that make it better?
	The less you know, the better, baby.
	Right.
	I feel like if anything that makes a word, so the idea is like, share your feelings.
	And then you break down.
	I want you to be in touch with your emotional side.
	I want you to open up to me.
	I ain't telling you fucking shit.
	That's different.
	It's about because when you show something which is vulnerable, it can be weaponized.
	But when a man shows something vulnerable, it's the same thing.
	It can also be weaponized.
	Well, ideally, I don't.
	I mean, I don't.
	The thing about this hypothetical is that that's just not something that I would do.
	This isn't that hypothetical.
	I call this phenomenon faking virtue.
	So the idea is that they don't care, the woman doesn't care.
	She would sleep with the guy the first night if she thought that he wanted that.
	If that would lead to the long-term relationship, she would do that.
	Because she thinks that he has virtue and does not want a woman who is promiscuous.
	She will fake the virtue by making him wait.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	This happens all the time, by the way.
	Like, this is the most common story I hear on whatever.
	Super common.
	Yeah.
	Did you not understand?
	You still don't understand?
	No, I understand.
	I just, there's nothing I could say at this point because I don't necessarily agree.
	But if I disagreed and you're just going to keep explaining it to me for the 10th time.
	What do you mean?
	When you say you disagree, do you disagree that this phenomenon exists?
	No.
	No, no, no.
	I think I'm sure it completely exists.
	I'm sure it completely exists.
	But I'm sure that there's different intention behind it than just faking virtue.
	What could the intention be?
	Like, I don't think that, like, if I didn't have sex with somebody immediately upon a first date, it wouldn't be that I was lying to them that I was virtuous.
	It would be because of some other reason, probably.
	But wait, I actually agree.
	That could be the case.
	But most of the time.
	That's not the situation we're talking about.
	The situation specifically we're talking about is if the woman ordinarily would sleep with this guy, but thinks if she does, that could in some way diminish his interest in her.
	Okay.
	So she doesn't, even though she wants to.
	He, right, at that point, she's tailoring her virtue to him.
	Okay, okay.
	Yeah.
	That's a explanation made so much more sense.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And does this not happen all the time?
	I'm sure it does.
	Yeah.
	Then that's faking virtue.
	Okay.
	What if, what if when I'm just curious on your thoughts about this?
	Is that just me?
	When men does anybody smell anything?
	I thought I was having a stroke for a second.
	Apparently, that's a sign.
	Oh, I smell it now.
	Maybe something back.
	Are we all having a stroke?
	After that conversation, maybe.
	I mean, there's cigarette smell.
	I don't know.
	No, it's not.
	It's not cigarettes.
	It smells like burning plastic.
	Yeah.
	Did you microwave the pizza?
	What?
	I was like, what's going on?
	Yeah, now that you see it, though, like, I know, I'm sorry, guys.
	Sorry, so sorry.
	No, I'm like looking for smoke.
	I know, until we see fire, we're fine.
	We're chill.
	So when men, and again, this is all, you know, men can, women can do the same thing that you're accusing, or men can do the same thing that women.
	So I'm not saying that only women or men do this, but a lot of guys lie to women to get laid in the aspect of like faking virtue.
	Exactly.
	So I'm just proving the point of, hey, if you, hey, I actually really like you.
	I told my family about you.
	Like, I want a relationship with you while you're.
	But in your values are, I want to wait.
	And you want to wait till like the fourth of whatever you're ready, hypothetically speaking.
	And a guy's like fakes it because he knows you want a relationship just to get you in bed and then goes to you.
	Like hypothetically speaking.
	I don't dispute that men fake virtue to get laid.
	There's no doubt.
	Okay.
	Men will tell all sorts of tall tales, everything in between, so that they can get a piece.
	Okay.
	I mean, I even saw this in high school.
	Like, it happens.
	There's no doubt that it happens.
	But specifically here, we're just talking about this situation of the idea of what happens when you're a man, you're talking to a woman, you like her, she likes you back.
	She sees that you have some sort of like higher ethic or virtue.
	In this virtue, you say, ah, you know, I'm not looking for a woman who's highly promiscuous, things like this.
	All the things you may talk about on a first date or even before you go on the first date.
	So the woman tailors her behavior to that because you see what I'm saying?
	I just wanted your opinions on that.
	That's all.
	Yeah, of course.
	Of course, both sexes can fake virtue.
	But this is one, I can't get past this hypothetical with Brian.
	This is, it's an actual problem.
	We argue about this constantly.
	The two of you.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	We argue about it constantly.
	Yeah, he looks mad.
	So I follow Christian ethics.
	Brian's not a Christian.
	He follows secular ethics.
	Though he does have an informed ethical belief from Christianity.
	It's still secular ethics.
	He says, man, that shit's unfair, Andrew.
	It's fucking unfair that a woman will sleep with three dudes before me, let's say, hypothetically, on the first date.
	But then when it comes to me, she goes, Well, I really like you, so I don't want to.
	Right?
	How the fuck is that supposed to make him feel?
	I think there is something really cherishable about getting immediately to like just that place and enjoying time and spending time together.
	So, like, if I, if I were the second man and that were me, yes, I'd be sad, but like, so the man gets to look past it.
	It's always the so the answer from women to this always seems to be one of two things: well, he should look past it, right?
	Or, hey, what does he want?
	Does he want me to sleep with him the first date, or doesn't he?
	And it's like, well, the complexity here, really, though, lies with the woman, not with the man.
	Man could be very virtuous and doesn't expect any woman to be promiscuous with him, but does like a woman who has been promiscuous.
	How is that fair to him, though?
	It's called having communication between two people.
	It's like, do you both want to communicate, but you have to resolve the issue?
	And the issue is, is like, okay, you know what?
	I want to bang now.
	Oh, but honey, that doesn't follow your ethics.
	If it did, I would do it totally.
	Right?
	It like it puts him in a catch-22.
	What differences in this, like, do you guys see?
	Like, why do you guys have arguments about this?
	What's the main conflict amongst you?
	It just comes from an ethical purview.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So I follow Christian ethics.
	So I don't think you should be sleeping with anybody until you're married with them.
	Period.
	Period.
	Right, right.
	Right.
	But he follows a different form of ethics.
	He doesn't think sex outside of marriage is problematic.
	So if that's the case, he's just looking at it from a purely pragmatic point of view.
	You fuck the last two dudes immediately, or the last one immediately.
	But I have to wait.
	Why?
	What's wrong with me?
	So what's the answer?
	I don't think anything's wrong with him.
	Right.
	Nothing's wrong with him.
	Well, it could potentially be an indicator.
	I mean, I also don't think it's a woman's fault if a guy lies to her to get laid.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, it's if someone lies to you or like they actively.
	Yeah, but you're just what about the mendoing?
	It's like we already know about the window.
	It's literally not even the topic.
	Yeah, we already know about the mendo.
	We know that the men are there's men who are shitbags and do this and blah, blah, blah.
	How do you reconcile this from the woman's aspect?
	I mean, I think if she sounds like she sounds like she might like you more than like maybe she, yeah, she does maybe think you have higher standards.
	So, I mean, where you could get mad about it, I think her intentions, it sounds like, is that she just genuinely likes you and wants you to get to know her instead of seeing her as like a body or something.
	But she's faking virtue.
	I agree.
	I'm saying yes.
	Yes.
	So this would be a huge red flag indication.
	It should be.
	Yes.
	And then also, I mean, if you like, if you're the guy in the situation and you're like, no, I actually do want a long-term relationship, but I also want to like hook up now.
	And then she also doubles down and is like, no, it's just kind of a ridiculous, it's a totally ridiculous situation.
	And it's ridiculous kind of from a bird's eye view of the entire situation because the strange part is you'll say, oh, those other guys I dated, I didn't really care about them.
	It was just casual.
	They were just fuck buddies.
	It was just a fuckboy, a jerk, asshole, whatever.
	But you're like this great guy.
	I want the relationship with you.
	Shouldn't you, I don't view sex as a reward, but just the simplest way of kind of wrapping my head around it.
	Ought you not reward the guy who's most deserving of a relationship?
	So you with of sex.
	So you withhold sex from the guy who's most deserving of it, and you give sex to like scumbag piece of shit men.
	That literally makes no sense.
	And it ties into the conversation we were having earlier where men will see like, okay, does treating women well result in me like getting what I want?
	In this case, sex?
	Like, no.
	She's giving sex to the fuckboys, the jerks, the assholes.
	And it's just like this totally kind of mind fuck, especially for young men where they're like, okay, you say you want to be treated well.
	You're like complaining about all these abusive men, but you're giving sex, this cherished thing, to the abusive men.
	Right.
	And it's super, it's really confusing.
	And you're essentially, I don't think most men are not going to do the trade-off of, eh, I'm not going to become like a piece of shit for pussy.
	Some men do, though.
	Some men are like, oh, this is what women respond to?
	Okay, I'll just become a piece of shit.
	I don't think that's the path that they should take, but like that's the path some men take.
	So you're almost rewarding.
	Like you're almost, what's the word for it?
	perpetuating not perpetuating but you're encouraging it It's accelerating.
	A synonym of, it's like a synonym of that.
	Enabling.
	You're almost enabling men to like be pieces of shit.
	Demanding, in fact.
	In many ways, it's demanding it.
	It's like if you're going to curtail it to the market, then what's the incentive of a man to even be virtuous?
	But is his ultimatum or his motive is just to let you embed?
	No.
	In fact, that's the opposite.
	Okay.
	But if he's virtuous, you would assume he's looking for a woman with virtue.
	So if the woman is tailoring the virtue to the man who has virtue and he figures this out, he's going to get super pissed, right?
	That's the idea here.
	Yeah.
	That would be really confusing and difficult as a man.
	How about this?
	Have any of you done?
	This is like a step further even.
	And there's been a bunch of like Reddit threads on this that we've reacted to.
	Actually, should we just, I feel like we should just pull it up.
	I feel like we should do the pickle jar.
	Well, she's outside.
	We'll do that in just a second, but I'm going to get something pulled up, Damien, for you to.
	By the way, we got it.
	You know, I feel like we got to raise a little bit in super chats for the pickle jar.
	I feel like we got to get very pricey.
	Yeah, we got to get to $750 for this pickle jar.
	Send him in, boys.
	Send him in.
	Let's see.
	So that we can watch him struggle with the pickle jar.
	I want to see it.
	I do want to see it.
	I'm trying.
	That's probably very interesting.
	Ah, here it is.
	I'm going to send this to you, Damien.
	We'll get that pulled up in just a sec.
	It's something we've reacted to a couple different times.
	It is interesting, though, but it kind of like takes it a step further.
	But I mean, on this, it's kind of like it would be kind of like, how about this?
	A guy who, for the girls that he just wanted to like fuck really quickly and never talk to again, like he did the most for those girls.
	So, the girls that he just wanted to have sex with once and then ghost after, he took them on like really fancy dinner date, treated them really well, did all the chivalrous stuff, opened the car door for them.
	Let's see what else he got them flowers and did all this.
	And then, but for the girl who like is worthy of a relationship, he does none of that.
	He'll take you to McDonald's.
	He'll kind of be a bit aloof.
	Not a lot of people.
	Sure.
	Wait, so sure, sure.
	Let's say that.
	Let's say there is.
	Not a lot.
	But let's say there is.
	Wouldn't that send exactly the opposite signal from your view?
	It should, 100%.
	But it doesn't.
	No, it does.
	But it's not, I guess the point, like, would put yourself in the shoes of that woman.
	So you know, you find out that not just bird's eye view, but you're going through this experience.
	This is a guy you really like, and he claims he really likes you, but he's kind of been a bit aloof.
	He's not really responding to you very quickly.
	He's taking you on like really low effort dates, or he's just like, just come over and we'll just watch Netflix, whatever.
	And then you find out that the last three women he dated, and there's been no material.
	He's giving him the sun, the moon, and the stars.
	There's been no material, no material change whatsoever to his finances, anything like that.
	But his last three girlfriends, he would take them on trips to Hawaii and he would get, he would, uh, so why are you Burger King?
	Why is this girl?
	Burger King.
	Yeah, why are you?
	Why are you McDonald's girl?
	No, I'm not.
	I'm not.
	I'm not saying you are.
	Well, you could take me to Pet Company.
	I'm just saying the point is, the point is, is like, if you found out that the pre-I'd be pissed.
	Yeah, you'd be fucking pissed.
	I'd be pissed.
	And you would be like, what the fuck is going on here?
	It makes no sense.
	Yeah, it makes sense.
	I'd be pissed.
	100%.
	If I found out the guy that I like is doing, did X, Y, Z for another girl.
	Yes.
	And then for me, he's like, meh, here's some mischief.
	But then, but then what about my McDonald's?
	Can we split it?
	But then when you confront him about this, he's like, no, You don't understand.
	I really, really like you.
	They didn't matter.
	They didn't matter.
	We're all just playing games with each other.
	We're all just playing games with each other.
	Yeah, except the difference is men.
	I'm not saying everyone, but I'm saying like society has kind of turned into like, when a guy, I'll ask my friends like something hypothetical and they're just like, oh, he's playing hard to get.
	Or like, oh, this.
	And I'm like, but why if he knows I like him?
	Like, why would we have to play a game?
	Listen, it's, it's hoke hope.
	Okay.
	To be perfectly frank, it's hoke hope.
	The idea is, I fucked a bunch of dudes before you, but now I'm going to tailor my sexuality to your virtue because I really like you, right?
	That's ho-cope.
	Okay.
	The same way you would see it as the guy, right?
	You'd be like, dude, you bought this chick flowers and flew her out to you know, fucking Peru and she didn't even give it up, nothing, right?
	And you're taking me to fucking McDonald's.
	Like, what are you thinking?
	You would say the same shit.
	You'd be like, you're coping.
	You're coping super hard, right?
	I agree with you.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, the whole idea, right into the mic, by the way, the whole idea here is just to say, like, look, the choices that you make have significant ramifications on future partnerships.
	This is one such way we can just demonstrate easily.
	If a dude did that in reverse, of course, you're going to be like, what the fuck is wrong with this?
	It's a mindfuck, for sure.
	Yeah.
	I have a hypothetical for your hypothetical.
	I want to hear it.
	Let's hear it.
	Okay.
	So, say that you are a woman who has been promiscuous before, and you've slept with people on first dates, and you meet a guy, and he's a Christian, and he has Christian values, and he wants to wait.
	And you think, wow, I really like this guy, and I want to be with him.
	So, I'm willing to wait for him.
	Do you think that you would still have that same, that guy would still have the same reaction?
	No.
	Okay.
	No, he would be following a different ethical standard.
	However, the woman could still be faking virtue.
	But if she decides to change her mind, if she's like, wow, like if she has a legitimate change of heart, I don't know how you would be able to tell that, right?
	But if she had a legitimate change of heart, he may instantly say, great, right?
	You're following the same ethics, virtues that I am.
	This is not the case we're talking about, though.
	But I'll just go ahead and grant this.
	Christians, actually, Christian men have to deal with this conundrum all the time.
	I bet.
	The idea of, yeah, you have a pretty promiscuous past, but now you're suddenly a Christian when you happen to meet me and like me a lot, right?
	And I don't have all of these past demons.
	It's a lot to ask, right?
	It's a big ask.
	Well, I only said that because my most recent ex is a Christian.
	And so we waited for him.
	Why was he with a vegan?
	That's bizarre.
	We had a long history before then, but we had never been intimate with each other.
	And so when we started dating, we waited for a pretty long time before being intimate with one another.
	And he knew about my past.
	He knew that I'd slept with people before, but he wasn't like, oh, why did she sleep with them and not me?
	Yeah.
	So it's like, you know, that's the reason I bring that up is because that situation is a very important thing.
	So there's going to be cases, many cases, where Christians end up with women who are promiscuous or end up with women with a checkered past or end up with any number of these different things.
	They're not going to hold that against you.
	They're going to hold the false virtue against you.
	Right.
	You see what I'm saying?
	Yeah.
	The distinction there.
	Yeah, totally.
	And so it's like, but in modernity, how does a modern Christian man navigate that?
	I have no fucking idea.
	And neither do they.
	Yeah.
	And then we had that thing to react to.
	Can we pull that up?
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	Kosher cute.
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	Yes.
	It's kosher deer.
	Yes, kosher dill spill.
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	Kosher.
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	Say kosher Dill Spears three times fast.
	Kosher Dill Spears.
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	Okay, so let's react to the thing.
	We got a reaction related to this, then we'll move on to the next topic.
	All right.
	Lucy Goosey, let me have you read this.
	I'm unsure if I should tell my boyfriend this information.
	I've recently gone official with a man I've been dating for a couple months.
	He's kind, respectful, and considerate, and I really think that he could be the one.
	But something is eating at me.
	I wanted to build slowly with this man, so we didn't become intimate until after going exclusive.
	But between the first date and that point, I did see an old friends with benefits a couple times.
	Back then, I didn't think anything of it as I wasn't exclusive.
	But I underestimated how much I would care for my boyfriend, and I feel almost like I've cheated on him.
	Have I done something wrong?
	And do I need to tell him, will he end things with me?
	Scroll down a bit.
	There's yeah, read it.
	Sorry, update.
	There were mixed reactions here, but my gut told me I should tell my boyfriend.
	He said, Sorry, I don't want to be in a relationship with someone who does that.
	Then he blocked me on everything.
	Okay, so she asks, Have I done something wrong?
	Do I need to tell him, will he end things with me?
	Going around the table, your thoughts on that, if you want to.
	I don't think so.
	If she stopped doing that, it's like when they went exclusive, she underestimated how much she'd like him.
	She didn't know how it would turn out.
	You don't think she did anything wrong?
	Well, no, they weren't together, so how could it be cheating?
	I think the guy was being a little bit dramatic, but hey, if that's what his standards are, sure, we'll let everybody answer before we give our response.
	Personally, from like my values, like I kind of, for me, it's like I'm not testing them, but it's just because that's how I am.
	I'm not going to tell a man he has to be exclusive with me.
	I kind of expect it.
	I obviously voice that I'm exclusive.
	And if I found that out after, and I was falling for this guy and catching feelings, and I was exclusive to him, and I was vocal that I wasn't dating around, and I found out he was sleeping with an old friends with benefits 100%.
	I'd probably break up with him if I found that out.
	I wouldn't really mind it because with my own way of looking at relationships, I feel like there needs to be an official communication and title of things being exclusive.
	If there's not, I feel like it's free.
	So she didn't do anything wrong.
	Your mic that way?
	So she didn't do anything wrong, right?
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	I disagree.
	I think she did do something wrong, and that's why she feels guilty for it.
	Like, why else would you be like writing?
	Like, this is like this post is just proof that she feels guilty and that she is guilty because she clearly felt bad about it because she did something wrong.
	So.
	What did she do wrong?
	She, well, I don't, I know that they did, they didn't like, they weren't exclusive or whatever, but if you're talking to someone, you need to make it clear that you're either hooking up or you're like dating.
	You can't just be like, oh, well, I don't know what we are.
	It's like, that's not how that works.
	You need to communicate with people.
	That's why these things happen because they don't communicate.
	And that's her fault for not communicating that.
	Also, if you think he's the one, then why would you be sleeping with your old friends with benefits?
	It just doesn't make sense.
	That's fair.
	Oh, no.
	I think if they weren't dating and they weren't exclusive, she didn't do anything wrong.
	Okay.
	She didn't do anything wrong.
	I think she did something wrong.
	Okay, what about you?
	I think she did something wrong.
	Pull it back up really quick.
	Okay.
	Here's what she did wrong.
	Oh.
	Y'all are wrong.
	You guys are just wrong.
	Sorry.
	Here, pull it back up.
	Okay.
	If you skip to the line where it says, I wanted to build slowly with this man, so we didn't become intimate until after going exclusive.
	But between the first date and that point, I did see an old friends with benefits a couple of times.
	I missed that part.
	That's fucked.
	That's so fucked up.
	So she told him, she told him she was virtue signaling that she wanted to build slowly with him.
	So essentially, she lied to him.
	She said, I want to build slowly.
	Sex is this like cherishable thing that really cherishes.
	Cherishable.
	A chariot.
	Charitable charity.
	Chariot.
	Chariotable.
	Chasage.
	Cherishable.
	Charitable.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Cherishable.
	Yeah.
	So she wanted to build slowly with this man.
	So while he was taking her out on dates, and it could have, we don't know all the details, right?
	But I think it would be fair to say here that he wanted to smash.
	And she was like pumping the brakes.
	She was pumping the brakes, saying, no, no, no, no.
	Like, I want to build slowly.
	Meanwhile, she, friends with benefits, who she didn't build slowly with, she was giving pussy to this dude while this other sucker was taking her on dates, doing a little ass out hug at the end of the date, little kiss on the lips, and then she goes and sucks some other dude's cock.
	But if it's an old friends with benefits, it means it's someone that she's gotten with before.
	So I wonder if that changes that is that.
	She still told the guy she wanted to build slowly and be exclusively.
	She told her at some point.
	She told him.
	But did she, but did she, did they establish a relationship?
	Did they both together said, okay, no.
	So yes, there was not an overt, there was not a conversation about exclusivity.
	Well, then there you go.
	But yeah, but yeah, you're trying to loophole it.
	But she said, I want to build slowly, which would imply that she's not fucking another dude.
	Yeah.
	She's dating him.
	Wanting something doesn't necessarily mean, like, we can want something, but do we get that?
	That, do we get what we want in the end?
	She did.
	How does this not mean that she got both men?
	Well, she, well, well, she, well, she actually, he broke up with her because she did tell him because she felt guilty.
	Yeah, but she had both of them at one point.
	Well, but they weren't exclusive.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Would you have kept it a secret?
	Okay, so here's the thing.
	My thing is, if my point is.
	Would you have kept it a secret?
	Would I have kept it?
	Well, yes, because it's not a, if we're not dating, if we're not dating.
	They are dating.
	They're just on secret.
	Wait.
	So wait, they were dating.
	They were going out to show.
	They were dating.
	And they just weren't like.
	She said, how did she get a boyfriend and girlfriend?
	It wasn't tech.
	Can you pull it up, please?
	Sure.
	Sure.
	It wasn't technically official, is my understanding.
	Yes, technicality.
	Because, hold on.
	But she clearly communicated that she didn't want to become intimate.
	I've recently gone official.
	Still doing exclusive.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	I've recently gone official with a man I've been dating for a couple months, indicating that they were like dating for a couple months, but it had not been official.
	So they've been court.
	So she's been courting with him.
	Yes.
	They've been in a courtship.
	She said, I wanted to build slowly with this man.
	So we didn't have sex until after going exclusive.
	So for months, this guy was taking this chick on dates, thinking she was the type of woman to wait for sex.
	So she was kind of misleading him to some degree.
	All the while, while she was building slowly and building towards this, like, I guess, big thing, like this meaningful relationship, she was getting her back blown out by her friends with benefits.
	Okay, I see where your point is.
	However, I'm going to disagree because of the thing that the thing I'm going to say, they've been dating.
	He's been courting her.
	When you're courting, when you're dating somebody, you didn't establish a title with that person.
	You have free game with whoever you want to be with.
	Just because they went on dates for a couple of months does not negate the fact that he didn't say, will you be my girlfriend?
	And now in the text, did it state in the text that he asked to be his girlfriend?
	Wait.
	It just says that they were dating for a couple months and then they recently went official.
	Dating, I mean, well, okay, so.
	Just to be clear, the argument here is not that she cheated on him.
	Okay, but the argument here is that she was like, I made this guy wait months to hit, claiming, like trying to feign virtue.
	Meanwhile, she was like getting fucked by her friends with benefits.
	I don't think that's it.
	That's the issue.
	You don't think it's wrong?
	Because it's there.
	Did you do that to your husband?
	There's no establishment.
	No, no, hold on.
	Did you do that?
	Did your husband?
	No, I didn't do that to my husband.
	Did your husband like hit right away?
	No, he talked.
	He told me first that he was talking to somebody.
	He came to me.
	He, before we even started dating, and before we even started courting with each other, he told me, hey, I am talking to somebody.
	If she would have said that to him, or to, if she would have said that to the guy in the beginning, then I would have to.
	She didn't, though.
	She didn't because it was her choice.
	She chose not to say anything.
	She chose to lie.
	Because she wanted to slowly build a relationship.
	She wanted to manipulate.
	Not manipulating her.
	Not manufacturing.
	She would not be.
	Yes, it is.
	That's exactly what manipulation is.
	Wait, slump down, baby girl, because I'm not trying to.
	You're frustrating me.
	I'm just trying to say if he, if they were courting, if they were dating for a couple of months, okay, dating could mean boyfriend and girlfriend.
	And to your guys' eyes, dating is a boyfriend and girlfriend.
	To me, dating is courting, okay?
	If he has not established we're boyfriend and girlfriend, then I say she has free game.
	She does not have to tell him his her every move on what she does with another man.
	However, she did feel guilty because she wanted to build that relationship with this man.
	Let me ask you.
	Can I ask you a question?
	So you have this guy that you really like, right?
	Okay.
	And he tells you, hey, like, I don't want to be intimate with you.
	Like, exactly what this situation is, okay?
	I don't want to be intimate with you until I have decided that like you're the one I want to be with.
	But in order to do that, I got to sleep with this other girl first.
	How would that make you feel?
	Well, you can't be with anyone else.
	And then like, I'm going to.
	Well, who's to who's to say that?
	The thing about saying, I want to wait.
	And like, that means like I'm not a very, I'm, I'm very holy.
	I want to wait.
	And you have, well, you have to court me.
	You have to take me on dates every single weekend, spend your money, your time, and I'm going to make you think that you're courting me and I'm the only person that you're talking to until you get to the point where we're in a relationship.
	But because I really just wanted to hook up with other guys and I was making you wait, I'm going to go hook up with my ex.
	But there's not telling you building a relationship with you and someone I think that is could be my husband and someone I think that is treating me well, someone who's a really good guy.
	That's fucked up.
	Also, she was court.
	They were just dating.
	But saying that you want to build something with someone implies that you're not having sex with other people.
	Okay, but should she, okay, so the thing about it is, was she like with him?
	Was she with him?
	Where?
	Who cares?
	No.
	That's not that logic.
	Who cares?
	Why are you?
	No, I'm just asking a question.
	I'm just asking a simple question because I would just want to understand.
	Was she at the time effing him while they were dating for a couple of months?
	No, that's the whole point.
	Okay, then that's why it's fair.
	It's not fair.
	Because she's making him wait.
	She was making him wait.
	Making him.
	Wait, wait, Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	She's making him earn it while she's literally hooking up with his friends.
	She says while she thinks he could be her husband.
	And he probably thinks she's not having sex with anyone.
	She said we've been dating for a couple of months.
	To me, dating is a lot of fun.
	I can make this so easy.
	I can make this really easy.
	Okay, here.
	Why don't we stop?
	Okay, let me make this really easy.
	Okay.
	So here's the scenario.
	Let's like exit the bird's eye view and go right into like an anecdotal experience.
	So they're cuddling.
	The guy who she's not fucking, they're cuddling.
	And the guy's like, babe, like, I really like you.
	Like, I want to have sex.
	And she says, she lies, and she says, Oh, I'm sorry.
	I'd like to wait a little longer.
	Like, I don't do that.
	Like, I want to wait while she's banging this other guy.
	And then, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	And then that date wraps up at 9 p.m.
	At 10 p.m., she goes over to the FWB, the Friends with Benefits house.
	And then she brings him.
	Well, okay, I'm not going to end that part.
	She just goes over, walks through the door, goes over to his bed, gets into doggy style, and he just fucks her.
	You don't think there's anything wrong with that?
	Did he establish that they were boyfriend and girlfriend?
	No.
	Okay, I don't think that that's wrong.
	But she's, okay, again, she tells him in that date moment, oh, yeah, look, I really like you, but I just want to wait longer to like have sex because, you know, I just want, you know, yeah.
	And then later that night, she fucks some dude.
	Like, that's lying.
	That's so disrespectful.
	But like, wait, you want that to your husband some of that's the message?
	But that's hypothetical, though.
	You're saying this is a lot of people.
	But this has not happened to us.
	I'm just trying to explain to you guys.
	She said they've been dating for a couple of months.
	To me, dating is courtship.
	I've been trying to say that to you guys.
	Wait, hold on, no, Hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Stop.
	Hold on.
	Courtship.
	Yes.
	Ah, courtship.
	Courtship.
	Chivalry, right?
	You think a woman fucking another dude while you're courting her, you think she's deserving of courtship?
	Nah, she's for the streets.
	She's a fucking 3-0-4.
	Stop it, bro.
	Fuck no.
	You don't, you know, if you're, hold on.
	If you're a girl and you're, you think you deserve courtship and you're getting your guts rearranged by your some other fucking dude, you're not a lady.
	You don't get chivalry.
	You don't get courtship.
	Back to the streets you go.
	Okay.
	That's what he ended up doing to her.
	Is that correct?
	That's what he ended up doing to her.
	Is that correct?
	But you're talking courtship.
	But she's talking courtship.
	You can never know.
	You could be dating somebody for a couple of months.
	Like, we can have the, there's a thing called the talking stage.
	You talk for a guy for three months.
	Is that technically dating?
	But if you tell the guy that you haven't been here to date with him and that you're serving yourself for him for later, and then you go fuck some other dude, that's it.
	But my thing, okay, but like that's then my thing, my question is, because this is what I want to understand.
	Is dating and talking stage the same thing?
	I think that that's not even the issue that they're trying to bring up.
	It's more the fact that she was basically misleading him about what her values are.
	Yes.
	And I think that it would have been one thing if he was saying, I want to wait.
	And she said, okay, well, I'm going to go get the pleasure from somewhere else.
	But he wasn't.
	It was her saying, I want to wait.
	So it's kind of like, it's just kind of, yeah, it's kind of hypocritical because it's like, you know, it would have been completely one thing if he was the one who was pumping the brakes.
	And she was like, well, you know, I got to get, I've got to get it done.
	What about the impression?
	Like, people talk a lot about, we're just in the talking stage.
	We haven't got to the commitment stage, this and that.
	But all of that's based around body language, signals, what we think, the impressions we give each other.
	And so it's like, what impression was this guy under?
	He must have been under the impression that it was leading to something.
	Or else, why was this chick guilty to begin with?
	Why did she feel so guilty?
	She posted about it to begin with.
	Thank you.
	But the thing about it is, is like, if she were to done this, Friends with Benefits while they were courting each other, I can understand his perspective, like why he didn't want to be in a relationship with her.
	Well, what's courting first?
	Courting is, well, I'm sorry.
	I use old English language.
	Okay, so dating.
	Listen, listen.
	I just want to know, it's fine to use the word courting.
	I think courting exists.
	I just want to know what it means to you.
	Well, courting to me means like little dates, like taking her out to the movies, walking her in the park, you know, doing little fun activities with each other.
	To me, that's courting.
	This getting to know you courtship phase that you're doing with this person.
	It could last months, right?
	Of course.
	Do you think that you can give signals and impressions and convey yourself in such a way where you give the other person the impression that you want something significantly more than what's currently happening?
	Even though you don't say it.
	Well, yeah.
	Yeah, sure.
	Our body language.
	Sure, of course.
	And we're using emotional language, this type of thing, right?
	So it doesn't stand a reason she could have been conveying that to him, right?
	Which is why she felt guilty enough to make the post to begin with.
	She also could be conveying that she was in an open market.
	She was lying, though.
	I'm just lying about who she is.
	The post doesn't say anything about her conveying she was in an open market.
	I'm saying that she's conveying it.
	She says, so let's look at the distinction between the technicality and the impression.
	Sure, you can say technically, and this is kind of your argument, right?
	Technically, she was in the clear because we hadn't made it official.
	We hadn't made it what it is.
	But that doesn't mean that the other person's under that impression.
	And if the other person was under that impression and then you told them that shit, what do you think they're going to do?
	Of course, they're going to fucking dump your ass, right?
	Yeah, of course.
	Makes you think perhaps the impression she gave was exactly the type of impression that would have got your ass dumped, right?
	Well, then that's her fault for making that impression not known to him.
	Like you said, it all stems back to communication.
	Or maybe she did let that impression get known.
	That's why he thought that's what was going on.
	I do have to move it on, but guys, TTS has been lowered to $100 if you want to get $100 TTS in.
	We have Sarah here.
	Sarah, London's call whatever fan donated $100.
	Long time view and first time comment.
	Chair three, please don't join off.
	Chair five is trying to manipulate you into it.
	She will gaslight you on the way home.
	Deep down, you know you don't want this.
	Yo, Sarah, thank you for the big first time ever.
	TTS, really appreciate it.
	Thank you so much, Sarah.
	Guys, W's in the chat for Sarah for her first time.
	TTS, really appreciate it.
	It sounded so bad, bro.
	Wait, what?
	For Sarah's first impression.
	For her first impression.
	We took her first impression.
	We took her TTS Virginia.
	I'm going to finish up with topby your notes here.
	Then we got to get into the questionnaire.
	Then you have to open the pickle jar.
	Okay, so excited.
	You only officially dated in fifth grade and the end of your senior year in high school.
	We talked about that at a fair.
	There was this guy who you hooked up with before, and you hung out and he kept telling people that you guys had sex.
	You cried and didn't want to think about it ever again because your own mental health, maybe.
	But you also hated how he was super buff but short.
	It was very scary.
	So this is like early in my whole phase.
	And whole phase?
	Who phase?
	I didn't hear it.
	Did you hear anything about a whole phase?
	No.
	No, that was her friend who had the whole phase.
	But I guess it was.
	She also had a whole phase too?
	Haven't you?
	Haven't they all had a whole phase?
	We didn't know each other.
	We didn't know each other.
	How long was this whole phase?
	This was like after I graduated.
	Oh.
	The summer after graduation is when it goes down.
	It does.
	That's so true.
	It does.
	So, okay, you had a whole phase.
	Two guys in one day.
	Two guys in one day.
	I've like had that happen before, but not on this occasion.
	No, no, no.
	Yeah, I'm just talking in general.
	Two guys in one day?
	Yeah.
	Three guys in one day within the span of 24 hours, but not the same day.
	Ever had a threesome?
	Yes.
	Foursome?
	No.
	More than the foursome?
	No.
	Okay.
	Four guys in the how about the 48-hour period?
	48.
	Probably still three.
	One week.
	I'm thinking.
	I'm trying to.
	It's been a while since I've thought about these memories.
	I guess in a week five Good times.
	I saw that brain math.
	All right.
	But so the you hated he was how he's super buff but short.
	Yes.
	How tell you?
	I'm 5-0.
	Okay.
	He honestly, like, he was like, like, I don't mind about the height thing, but really buff guys scare me.
	I'm not going to lie.
	I just feel like...
	Aren't you an elf, though?
	I mean...
	I mean, yeah, they have super strength.
	They're like Vulcans.
	Elves have like super strength.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	They can take on orcs and fist fights.
	I've seen Legal Awesome.
	Double bicep.
	Yeah.
	Oh, shit.
	Someone has to edit that to be like that.
	Okay, Popeye.
	Give him the pop to get the pop.
	All right.
	So let's see.
	You said you don't date to marry.
	No.
	You date for what again?
	For fun and living.
	Fun and living and syphilis.
	Life experience.
	Life experience.
	You said a lot of women claim to be bisexual when they're bi-curious and haven't been with a woman?
	Yes.
	I'm pansexual.
	Oh, so you date like a trans person or whatever?
	No, that just means no gender attraction whatsoever.
	Just any and all above.
	All of the above.
	Excuse me.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	No, I'm sorry.
	No specific gender attraction.
	That's okay.
	That's pansexual, yeah.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	But which just means you like to fuck women and men.
	Yeah.
	I just say that's bi.
	Yeah.
	So like normal people.
	Like to get into the territory, like I feel like if you're a trans woman, male to female, to establish that is like different from biologically being born as a woman.
	Like it's there's there are different.
	There's listen.
	Think about how silly that is because you can just reverse it, right?
	You say, well, I'm pansexual.
	I'm attracted to women and men.
	You could say, well, then if a man transitions to a female, I'll have sex with them.
	But if a female transitions to a man, I'll have sex with them.
	But if we just left it normal and said you're a male and you're a female, you'd have sex with both of them too.
	Some people have to do that.
	So like, ultimately, ultimately, why does it even matter when you talk about gender?
	Because you're just saying the same thing.
	It's just repetitive.
	It's like redundancy almost.
	But a lot of people who will be bisexual don't go with transgender people.
	Yeah, there's also intersex, which they don't have a penis or a vagina.
	I mean, but that's like super.
	So that's why they call it pansexual.
	Just to distinguish between that because you could be bisexual, but you wouldn't want to be with a transgender person, whereas pansexual, I like would.
	I still consider myself by them.
	Let's do here.
	I feel like it just applies to me.
	Let's have you open the pickle jar.
	Go ahead.
	Someone, give me a give me a thing of spinach.
	I gotta get stronger.
	Okay, hold on.
	Can you move that glass out of the way?
	Do it on the table, though.
	I don't want.
	I bet you can't.
	There we go.
	You could do it too.
	If I get pickle juice all over me.
	Yeah, do it on the table.
	Do it on the table.
	You got this.
	Don't fail.
	Can someone play the WWE?
	Can I hit it against the table?
	No, you can't do that.
	Can I use my shirt?
	Boy, I mean, you can drive the top of the lid.
	Yeah.
	Guys, I think I'm doing a really good job.
	You're doing wonderful.
	You got this.
	I can't wait to watch you shingle that roof.
	I'm so excited.
	I'm so excited for the roof.
	Thank you.
	It's going to look really good.
	I don't know.
	You got it!
	You know what?
	Give her the next one.
	Oh, God.
	Let me get the ASMR on this.
	Ready?
	Oh, good one.
	Oh, yes.
	I love it.
	Bro, you're putting it back in.
	You fucking disgusting, bro.
	I didn't put it back in.
	Yeah, you're dripping.
	It's right in there.
	You're fucking syphilised.
	Now I just died.
	I want a one.
	I want to go.
	Bro, she literally took a buy and she dipped the fucking.
	I did not dip it.
	I would put it back in the middle.
	I didn't get back in the juice of my microphone.
	I know, bro.
	Can I?
	All right, put the cap back on before you make more of a mess.
	Put the fries in the bag.
	Grab a napkin.
	Thank you.
	Oh, wow.
	I said the napkin, not the cum rag.
	She did get the jar.
	You know what, though?
	I.
	No, you did not.
	That's what I got.
	Golden cliffs.
	Also, maybe we need a different brand.
	Maybe this.
	I did.
	She got the jar.
	She just can't accept my W. Credit where credit's due.
	Give the W where the W goes.
	She got the fucking jar.
	She got the jar.
	Thank you.
	You know what, though?
	I would like to thank the Academy and Beyonce.
	All right, good job.
	Good job.
	Let's take it off the table, though.
	Actually, don't put it on the table.
	Yeah, we're not sponsored by you here.
	It does say easy open right on the side.
	Oh, really?
	No.
	Oh, shit.
	Yeah, I'm just over there.
	All right, cool.
	Okay, we're going to get into the questionnaire and we're going to try to get this wrapped up.
	So, okay.
	What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
	Lucy Goosey, you go first.
	I think I wrote down a comfortable amount, which by the time I get married, inflation might be worse, so it might be more.
	But I think I put, did I put 70K to 100K?
	Yeah.
	Mizzy, what about you?
	I actually think I said the same thing: 70K to 100K, if not 80K to 100K.
	Yeah, 80K to 100K?
	What about you?
	I put down, I don't know, but I just want to be like comfortable with a few extra luxuries.
	When you say luxuries, what do you mean?
	Like, I would like pets.
	Pets are a lot of time and effort and money.
	How many pets?
	I would like two.
	Okay, sure.
	All right.
	You could have.
	Mandy, I think I put down $100K because I wasn't sure of the average income in the state.
	So I think I put $100K.
	Your third and nine-year-old boyfriend, do you know how much he makes?
	Honestly, I don't.
	Does he have a job?
	Yeah.
	You don't know how much he makes.
	What's he do for work?
	He's currently tutoring, but he's looking for another job.
	He's tutoring?
	So he's not making $100K a year.
	Well, no, not right now.
	That's just like my maximum ideal.
	Like, if I'm like, if we're like fucking balling.
	I forgot what I put.
	I think it was like high, though.
	$150K?
	Yeah, that's not bad.
	500,000 500,000 Yeah $500,000.
	How much does your husband make?
	No, he makes good money.
	I'm sorry.
	He's half a million dollars a year.
	I just wish I could say, but I can't disclose it on here.
	What's he do for work?
	He does multiple things.
	He's a chef and he works at a mechanic company.
	So he's a cook dealer.
	Got it.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Even that makes better money.
	So even if he was a full-time mechanic, full-time, got a mechanics wage, and was a full-time cook at a five-star restaurant, he wouldn't make $500,000.
	He's a private chef, though.
	Yeah, even as a private chef.
	But he's a good one.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Hang on.
	I just want to let you know.
	Even as a private chef, that's half a million dollars a year.
	You should try his food.
	It's really delicious.
	She already invited us all over for dinner.
	Let's go.
	Our boyfriend's new to cook off because my boyfriend cooks too.
	That your husband makes half a million dollars a year.
	Well, my ideal man is to make $500 a day.
	How old's your husband?
	How old's your husband?
	We're 10 years apart.
	He's 23.
	And he's 33.
	Yeah.
	And he makes half a million a year.
	Well, they work really hard.
	Europeans, I'm not going to lie.
	Like I said, European men work really hard.
	They don't make half.
	Do you know how much fucking money this is?
	Like a half a million a year?
	Well, yeah, because I believe in my baby.
	I believe that he can do.
	Yeah, but is he?
	Not could he in my eyes?
	Is he?
	Not could he.
	Well, no.
	So tell me, what is one plus one equal?
	Two.
	Does it matter whose eyes it's in?
	No.
	No.
	I'm just, you, I answer the question.
	All right, no.
	The answer is no.
	Wait, so you're just, so essentially you're saying that your husband is not your ideal?
	Yes.
	Um because you said ideally, right?
	But like your husband.
	Next question.
	The next person.
	Divorce after that one.
	I don't.
	There might be more watching this, I guess.
	Well, I mean, he's Polish, though.
	Oh, shit.
	He has to go back to the country.
	Now I feel like I'm really going to get laughed at because I put a million dollars.
	We dream high, baby.
	We dream high.
	The question did say ideal.
	Right?
	Thank you.
	Why not put a billion?
	If it's ideal, I thought it was like minimum.
	I think they said minimum ideas.
	That is so much worse.
	No, it says the minimum.
	It is minimum.
	It is minimum.
	Oh, it says minimum?
	Okay.
	Ideal is a high money.
	Yours can't be right that if it's $500,000 minimum, you just lied on your application.
	Yeah, because your husband doesn't make he doesn't make that.
	Oh, yeah.
	I thought it was ideal because then I was like, okay, minimum.
	Why wasn't reading the question?
	I just saw like income.
	I'm sorry.
	Put it up there, Brian.
	Receipts.
	We can't even see it.
	How are you going to put, how you gonna?
	Wait, no, no, I can't let it pass.
	How are you gonna put $500,000 minimum?
	Your husband doesn't make $500,000 at a minimum.
	He makes really, no, he makes really good money.
	He doesn't make $500,000 minimum.
	It can't be the minimum.
	Not a million.
	I'm sorry.
	$500,000.
	$500 million.
	Do you want one that makes a million dollars minimum?
	I mean, if it's going to be my man, yeah.
	But, like...
	Minimum.
	I don't think dreams are big.
	No.
	Would you cheat on your million dollar man?
	I wouldn't cheat on that.
	If he had the million dollars, then I would not cheat on that.
	Quick question, question.
	You're 18, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And your body count, you said, is 50 plus?
	Okay.
	And what age do you want to get married?
	I don't know.
	Like 30?
	If I even get married, yeah.
	Okay.
	So just, I want to do some body count math here.
	So, but you're age.
	I hate this one.
	You're 18.
	Your body count is 50.
	What's your body count going to be at 30?
	Like 500?
	Yeah, like 500,000.
	Yeah, probably.
	500,000?
	Not 500,000?
	What her man should make?
	It will be.
	You're saying it will be 500.
	No, no.
	I mean, we're doing the math.
	That's the math.
	Will it be at least 100?
	Probably.
	Okay, Ahano.
	So if it's going to be at least 100, you think a fucking millionaire is going to marry you with 100 bodies?
	He's going to be 70 if he's 70.
	Did you guys watch that movie, Henora?
	Isn't that literally the plot of that movie, that millionaire gets a moment?
	If you're a 70-year-old millionaire, there's one chick who has 100 fucking bodies say you can marry.
	There's another chick who has 10 bodies you can marry.
	And then I wouldn't tell you.
	Nicole Smith.
	Anna Nicole Smith did the same thing.
	But didn't she die with us?
	No, no, no.
	Anna Nicole Smith didn't get shit.
	She didn't get shit.
	Good.
	If he doesn't ask, I won't tell.
	Serves her right.
	Okay.
	Go crazy.
	That's okay, Brian.
	No one's going to be marrying you for your money.
	Half a million.
	I don't want to get married.
	What?
	You want seven kids but no marriage?
	Yeah, of course.
	I literally said I didn't.
	What did you have?
	70,000.
	What the fuck?
	Okay, hang on.
	Hi, Barbie.
	I think you have to be.
	I'm so okay, but I'm just stunned.
	Champagne's hidden.
	You want seven kids?
	Seven sons, get away with it.
	You want seven sons, but no marriage.
	Okay, Elon Musk.
	That's right.
	Seven sons.
	Who all hate you?
	Fuck.
	That would suck.
	Okay, so, well, I'll ask you that question later because I'm sure she has to answer her ideal income.
	I already did.
	So she said 70%.
	But my question to you is: why don't you want to get married, but you would rather have seven sons?
	Like, do I need to stay.
	Just to be clear, do I need to get married to impregnate a woman?
	No.
	I'm just like, are you a person that believes in love or you were just like.
	Do I need to get married to believe in love?
	No.
	No, I'm just like, would your seven kids be with one woman?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, sure.
	Although, so like child support payments, like.
	What do you mean?
	Child support.
	Well, if you're not married to her, you just assume he's going to pay child support instead of being with the mom and taking her.
	But they're not married, so you're just together.
	Okay.
	Hi, mom.
	You just say you need a little Jesus.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	You need some Andrew in your life for you.
	Take some notes.
	Wait, my mom and my dad were not married and they had me.
	You don't have to.
	No, no, I got to.
	I don't know.
	I didn't know you had to.
	You're not going to give her the time.
	But you did end up on only.
	I mean, to be fair.
	Reality check donated $100.
	Black girl in pink.
	Respectfully, you are part of the problem.
	Oh my gosh.
	Thank you, I guess.
	That's crazy.
	That's crazy.
	I mean, I don't really want to linger on the marriage topic too long, but here, just one quick question.
	Okay, so I could lay out all the reasons why I think marriage is bad for men.
	Why don't you provide for me, though, a reason why I or other men should get married?
	Hang on, two caveats.
	You can't say because of tax purposes.
	I'll just give you the argument real quick.
	If you say because of tax purposes, all that that implies is we should change the tax code.
	One, and two, you can still file outside of that.
	You don't really save very much, to be perfectly honest with you, between couples.
	So can't say for tax purposes.
	So what is the reason men should get married, is Brian's point.
	Men in general, or Brian specifically.
	Both either.
	Well, for Brian specifically, he's laid out the kind of woman that he wants to be with, and that's a very traditional woman.
	And if a traditional woman ideally wants to be with a traditional man, I feel like she'd probably want to be married with you if she's going to have seven of your children.
	Okay, well, that's really weird because literally in the thing that you said, it contradicts itself.
	You said, Brian wants a traditional woman, and yet the type of woman Brian wants is the type of woman he doesn't have to marry.
	So she can't be very fucking traditional, can she?
	Sure.
	Yeah, sure.
	You can make that.
	I'm not going to agree with that because that was just bad logic.
	Hold this.
	No, that's good logic.
	No, it's not.
	What's wrong with the logic?
	Because he wants a traditional woman.
	That's the kind of woman that you'd want in your life.
	What is the, what do you call a traditional woman?
	A traditional woman probably wants to be married with children.
	Okay, but he says he doesn't want to get married.
	So how does he want to do that?
	So then he wouldn't be with her.
	Because he's laid out for her.
	So he wouldn't be with her, so he doesn't want a traditional woman.
	So then I don't know.
	Did you just smell your...
	Did we get that on camera?
	Wait, Damien, did you get that on camera?
	I'm Adrian 4K.
	Did you just do it again?
	Do it again.
	You forget the cameras on.
	I'm so glad I was distracted.
	Brian, you were right.
	Disgusting.
	Do it again.
	Do it again.
	Dude, lift your arm all the way up and just like shove your nose under it.
	You're right.
	It's getting really hot in here.
	Oh, yeah.
	What the fuck?
	Well, you just hopped with yours and you looked like you were sniffing yours too.
	So that's really disgusting.
	That's disgusting.
	She just married Brian.
	She wants to be your wife.
	This is gaslighting.
	She doesn't want to be your wife.
	She just wants to give you seven kids.
	Jayden Elf, Brian.
	That's going to be a clue.
	Yeah, no.
	I would date an elf woman.
	I would date an elf.
	Real elf ears or fake ones?
	Is it because they won't age, Brian?
	You fucking pervert?
	Wow.
	Tell them like it is.
	Look at that thing.
	I get older and they stay the same age.
	They literally stay the same.
	They don't age because they're elves.
	Right, they're elves.
	That's true.
	What's that one movie Two?
	Everlasting.
	Hobbit, by the way.
	That was cool.
	Nobody says Aragorn's a pervert.
	That is a good point.
	Nobody says Peter Pan is a pervert.
	Yeah, that's a good point too.
	Do you know who was hot?
	Nobody says that fucking that guy Edward from Twilight's a pervert.
	He's like 100 years old.
	I think he was like hot shit.
	He was in high school.
	She was in high school.
	Right?
	But also, the writer of that book was like a crazy Mormon woman.
	That's great.
	Okay, so that is true.
	You're in your marriage with your seven sons.
	Yeah, okay.
	But so that's a separate debate.
	I'm still waiting for like why I should get married or why men should get married.
	Why men should get married or why Brian should get married?
	I honestly have no answer to give you.
	Go to someone who has a better answer.
	Well, does anybody have a good answer?
	I have a good answer for like my beliefs, but you're not me, so I can't really give you advice.
	Like if you're, I just think maybe you should go to church.
	Okay, but you're saying, like, you're saying if you're a Christian, that's like the reason, right?
	I don't think it's, I mean, I think there's a foundation that you're building like a family and like the morals that whatever religion that is, like that you want to build a life together and you want to have that life together.
	So, Brian goes to a Mormon church because you told him to, and he gets four wives.
	That's crazy, right?
	That's good for Brian.
	Good for Brian.
	So, you would say Brian gets four women.
	That's a good way for him to have seven kids and not get one woman pregnant with seven kids and not give her a derby.
	See, she's taking notes from her ex who had seven.
	Still, I haven't my ex, but oh, sorry.
	Brian's becoming Muslim so he can take care of multiple wives.
	Let's go.
	Okay.
	One oscelemalaku.
	What the fuck did you just do?
	I don't know.
	You gotta get a G hot on this place, bro.
	No, bro.
	I don't know.
	How do you say it?
	Is this English?
	Mama Malay.
	I don't know how.
	Did I say it right?
	You probably said like Satan.
	I on the Muslims or something crazy in this lunch.
	He just fucked us all.
	Honestly, though, I spoke in tons.
	I'm a ton of like Islam.
	I might, you know, four wives.
	Is it more than sorry?
	So he was not wanting any wives to have your own TV show.
	Yeah.
	And you're not going to just get seven boys.
	You're going to have to have like 14.
	He's going to be like 20 kisses for Brian and all your wives.
	I think I would watch this show.
	They don't do shit.
	Is that good?
	No.
	You don't like that?
	No.
	One.
	Yeah, one.
	Just one?
	Just one.
	Okay, all right.
	Just one.
	Tell anybody.
	Here, anyway.
	Just one thing, one thing.
	Why should I get married?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	My point is maybe this isn't for you, Brian, but for me, one of the only reasons I want to even actually get married is just to have the celebration.
	So, like, even just the smell of blood.
	Hear me out.
	You can do that without me.
	The ceremony is a celebration of love.
	Now, I don't think I'm going to tie myself to the state.
	I'm going to have a ceremony of love.
	I'm not going to have like a real wedding, I don't think.
	But I'm just saying, I think it's cute to have like a little ceremony.
	Can I ask you a question?
	But that's me.
	That's me, because I'm a woman.
	If you just do the little ceremony, I love you.
	I love you, baby.
	Here's a ceremony.
	Right?
	Well, hang on, but hang on.
	There's no sacrament.
	There's no church behind it.
	No.
	Okay, got it.
	There's no sacrament.
	There's no church behind it.
	There's no state behind it.
	Who declares you're divorced?
	Me.
	It's basically we're still girlfriend and boyfriend, but we're not technically legal.
	So then it's not marriage.
	But we could have a ceremony.
	Yeah, but you could have a lot of money.
	That's why being baptized and really good boyfriend.
	No, but that's me.
	I'm telling you, that's my thing.
	I'm not saying that Brian should do that for himself.
	Okay.
	I'm just.
	Did you remember?
	But that's my reason for getting married.
	Repeat the question back to me.
	What was the question?
	Why do we think you should get married?
	Or men in general.
	Or men in the middle.
	Do you think men care about fucking the oh?
	Yeah, that sounds like why women should get married.
	That's very hard.
	Yeah, there's Brianzilla.
	He doesn't even really want to get married.
	He's only going to do it because of me.
	Actually, he might not.
	I don't know.
	We have to do it.
	How do she hype?
	So she can cook and clean up.
	He's going to help us out here.
	Help us out here.
	Okay.
	Why should Brian or men get married?
	I don't think Brian should get married.
	I think Brian should get married if he wants to.
	He cannot get married if he wants to.
	Can I give a really real answer?
	Not the Mormon shit.
	Okay, so I think you should get married because I think you have someone to take care of you, to listen to you, someone that can cook for you, can clean for you, someone that can hold your hand when you're down, someone that can wipe your tears when you're sad.
	Someone that can be your biggest team player and cheer you up and hype you up every single day.
	Don't need marriage for me.
	Yeah, why do you need marriage for any of them?
	Dude, pull up this clip in 10 years when he's still singing.
	They have women a commitment so they want to stay to you and give you all those things.
	But wait, you can give a woman a commitment to stay to give you all those things without marrying her.
	No, I'm 30, and I still just have a boyfriend.
	So let me ask you then, what is the enforcement mechanism in which is going to keep this relationship together, right?
	When Brian says, wait a second, we can have all those things absent marriage.
	You say, no, we can't.
	Because why?
	Because.
	I mean, I'm not Brian, but I was just trying to.
	Yeah, I know, I know.
	But any man, let's just say it's any man.
	Forget Brian for a second.
	Any man on planet Earth, we go through all your qualia there, right?
	And they go, but we already have all that.
	Why do we need to get married?
	Your response is, because.
	Well, I'm Christian, so I have a different thing.
	I was trying to come up with Brian's idea.
	Yeah, but from a secular perspective, non-Christian perspective, what?
	Like, what is it?
	I mean, I just think monogamy, like, I promote monogamy.
	But she could be monogamous without being married.
	Yeah, but I just think people wouldn't want to stay more loyal for whatever reason.
	I don't know.
	I just, I'm just told you.
	That's not always true.
	It's not true, but your husband is not a bad person.
	50% of divorces are not compared to the people.
	It's true.
	It's true.
	So isn't there actually, when it comes to the divorce laws that exist in this country, isn't there actually, like, let's say I'm the breadwinner, I'm the high-income earner, and she's like stay-at-home wife, whatever, taking care of the kids.
	We've been married for 10 years.
	Doesn't like, as the marriage progresses, isn't there like a continually cascading and developing incentive for her to end the marriage when it comes to finances, right?
	So if my like ultimate goal in a relationship is to ensure that she stays with me, wouldn't the like ultimate dynamic be, if you leave me, you get nothing.
	But all of a sudden, if you leave me and you get hundreds of thousands of dollars, millions of dollars, that kind of starts seeming really, really nice for the woman.
	Prenup.
	Prenup.
	Someone like you needs one.
	I thought 100%.
	But wait, hang on.
	Is a prenup Christian?
	I don't know.
	I'm just trying to think about Brian.
	But let's just, let's just talk about Brian.
	Let's even assume for a second it is.
	Let's even assume for a second it is.
	Okay.
	Here's the second issue you got with this.
	Is marriage, from a Christian purview, about the sacrament or about some contract?
	I mean, is this like the sacrament?
	Yeah, it's about the sacrament.
	So right into the mic, real quick.
	Let me ask you a question.
	If it's about the sacrament, and you're a Christian, right?
	If you don't belong to a church, which I'm guessing you don't, just get, it's just a guess.
	Am I right?
	Or do you belong to a church?
	I've belonged to a church.
	Okay.
	Is it a Protestant church?
	Non-denominational.
	Yeah.
	I thought so.
	Okay.
	So you don't belong to a church.
	But anyway.
	Oh, but they have non-denominational Assembly of God.
	That's a church.
	So let me ask you this.
	You get a sacrament done by this non-denominational church.
	Let's say with Brian.
	But Brian's not Christian.
	But let's just say he was.
	Okay.
	Who gets to end it?
	What do you mean?
	So the state's not involved.
	There's no state now.
	You just did it in a religious sense.
	No state.
	How do you dissolve that marriage?
	I don't know.
	I've never been married.
	But if you were, you don't know?
	I don't know.
	Well, there's no mechanism to do it in a non-denominational church.
	There's like, there's zero mechanism.
	So how would you even do the Christian portion of the marriage absent the state?
	How could you even do it?
	You can go to God and be like, we broken up.
	Who goes to God?
	So you go to God.
	She goes to God and says, we broke up.
	He goes to God and says, no, the fuck, we didn't.
	Who's right?
	I don't know.
	This whole thing.
	Well, it's only a little lost right now how this guy happened to like a.
	Just because we have a lot to get through, I don't want, let's try not to linger on any one thing for too long.
	But last question on the marriage thing.
	Do you think if a woman, there's no abuse in the relationship, treats the kids well, treats you well, no abuse, no physical abuse, no emotional abuse, nothing like that.
	But you're just vaguely unhappy.
	Is that enough justification for divorce?
	You're you're not happy.
	Nah, stick together.
	If you got kids, stick together.
	What if you don't?
	If you don't, I think that that's, I think, I think if you're not in love with the person, that's unfair to them to stay with them.
	Okay, so vaguely unhappy with no kids, it's fine.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	No, I think that when you commit to someone, you're committing to working on the relationship and people have times where they're not connected and they're not happy, but you have to continue to work.
	I think you can keep on trying to put in the work and go to couples therapy and things like that.
	But my parents, with my background of them being divorced in middle school and having four siblings, so overall five children, I feel like I would want to leave in it.
	So I support the leaving.
	Okay, next.
	All right, you already had 20 seconds to think about it.
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah, I think it's okay for the lady to leave.
	Okay, great.
	Leaving.
	Leaving.
	I wouldn't sacrifice my mental health for just a family.
	Yeah, men will sacrifice their happiness for their family.
	Women will sacrifice their family for their happiness.
	I do have to move on, though.
	How tall are you and what's both the minimum and ideal height of a man you would date?
	I'm 5'8, minimum, 5'8.
	Ideal, like 6'.
	I'm 5'1.
	Ideal would be 5'7 to 6 feet.
	Okay.
	I'm 5'0, minimum would be 5'5.
	And ideal would be 5'8.
	Okay.
	I'm 5'5.
	Minimum would be probably like 5'3 to like 6'2?
	Ideal?
	Ideal is like, I don't know, 5'9 to 6'2?
	I'm 5' My minimum is just anything taller than me, and then my ideal is like 6' I'm 5'5 and my minimum is 5'5 and my ideal is 5'10.
	I thought you dated all these guys.
	You're 5'2.
	I don't date you.
	So isn't that your minimum?
	It's 5'2?
	Go ahead, go ahead.
	I'm 5'3, and my ideal is 6' and I only go date dudes 6' and above.
	What about you?
	I'm 5'1.
	I just like anybody that's 5'5 and above.
	I don't really care.
	Would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the forest?
	Neither.
	I actually, I put neither on the.
	You gotta pick one, though.
	Well, it depends.
	It depends.
	The bear.
	Yeah, just say that bear.
	A man.
	The bear.
	The man.
	The bear.
	The man.
	So wait, just bear.
	Did you say bear?
	And then I think you're.
	Why do you, why do you pick bear?
	Why don't you pick men?
	Because you never know what to expect from a man, but you know what to expect from a bear.
	Okay.
	I'll duck in the bushes and hide.
	They could smell you, girl.
	I'll like do the technique where you lay flat on the floor.
	Well, the idea here is like you are crossing paths, so they're aware of your presence.
	Still bear?
	I just immediately fall to the queen.
	She just sits there.
	Just pretend to be dead.
	Okay.
	Why do you pick Bear?
	I feel like it is more predictable than okay.
	Like they said, more predictable.
	And so basically, if I understand it correctly, your guys' fear or concern here when it comes to the man is like the bear could murder you, the man could murder you, the man could also SAU.
	Is that pretty much your positions?
	Or torture you?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so just what percentage of men do you think would be inclined to SAU, basically?
	I mean, that's the argument.
	Oh, God, I have no idea.
	Hopefully, not a lot, but you can never know.
	That's the thing.
	I mean, there are statistics out there, but I wouldn't have a good guesstimate, a good guesstimation either.
	Hopefully, not over 50%.
	If you had to.
	If a meteor was going to hit the planet tomorrow and blow everybody to hell if you didn't guess this, what would your guess be?
	Can we put up the mathematics effect?
	No, no, no, no.
	Can you guess for me?
	Okay, I'm going to say the world depends on it.
	Just throw out a number.
	50.
	50%.
	Okay.
	I would say, like, yeah, 50%.
	Okay.
	Do you have anything?
	Percentage?
	No.
	If the world depended on it, if the world depended on it, I'd probably say it's a 50-50 chance.
	50-50.
	Okay.
	I wouldn't like for that to be the case, but you're adopted, right?
	Yes.
	I don't know if this question is going to hit quite the same.
	You have male siblings, brothers, multiple brothers?
	Yeah.
	How many brothers?
	I have four brothers.
	Four brothers, so 50% of them are essayers?
	No.
	Oh.
	But you said it would, like, the risk is not that.
	That's not how statistics work.
	That is kind of.
	Well, it would actually be in this case if you say 50% of all men.
	But I said I wasn't sure about that.
	But to refute the point, if you say 50% of all men would do this, then that's exactly how statistics work.
	I guess I said that there's a 50-50 chance that any man would make the decision to do that.
	That would be 50% of all men.
	I guess.
	I don't think that all men are inherently people who would essay somebody, but I think that you have the opportunity to do it.
	That would stand a reason if 50% wouldn't do it.
	Is the opportunity just like seeing a girl in the woods, though?
	Like, I haven't.
	What is the context?
	I don't have a great stance on this.
	Well, the idea is just this: you're teleported against your will, and so is this random man.
	Could be any random man on planet Earth or any random bear on planet Earth.
	But you're teleported into the middle of a forest with this.
	You spawn right next to each other.
	Who do you take?
	I just feel like me and the bear would be friends.
	You and the polar bear.
	Yeah.
	Girl, that's not Yogi Bear.
	Girl, that's my opinion.
	But there's also the idea here, too.
	I wonder if this would change the answer for you or for you.
	You do realize that there is the chance that you could spawn in the forest with a multi-millionaire who's extremely handsome, right?
	Does that change your answer at all?
	Multi-millionaires are Diddy.
	Right.
	Some.
	Yeah, some.
	That's true.
	I think some is just not a small enough amount for me to want to risk.
	Just so you know, almost 10% of the United States population are millionaires.
	I just think it's too small.
	And 33% of that, I believe, is women.
	About 33% are millionaires.
	Rest are men.
	Okay.
	But it varies across a huge, wide array of age spectrums, mostly because retirement accounts, IRAs, things like this, they end up kind of accruing about a million dollars worth of assets, right?
	So the thing is, like, you could spawn with one of them.
	You could spawn with a multi-millionaire.
	You could spawn with a fucking NBA player who's super handsome and has millions.
	You could spawn with that.
	I just have not wanted to take this chances.
	That's okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We're going to get into the rest of the questionnaire then.
	Let's see.
	The question is: do transgender individuals have a duty to disclose to romantic partners?
	Lucy, you were maybe on that one.
	I feel like it depends if they've had bottom surgery and they're going to be intimate with each other.
	McKenna, you said no to this one.
	L. Barbie, you're in the middle.
	And then, Riley, you are you in the middle on this one?
	Wait, what was the question against?
	All right, I'm just gonna never mind.
	Not paying attention, you don't get to participate on this one.
	So it depends if they have bottom surgery for you.
	I mean, I don't know.
	I'm not, I haven't been in that situation, so I wouldn't really know what to do.
	I feel like most people who are trans do generally disclose that information because there's that whole thing about like feeling a lot of men, like specifically if it's a trans woman, men sometimes feel like they're being like misled.
	Well, what do you mean?
	They feel like they're being misled?
	No, I don't think so.
	I don't think so.
	McKenna, your position on this, you said no?
	Yeah, I mean, I think it doesn't really matter.
	It doesn't really matter.
	I feel like you'd be able to tell, like, once you get all the clothes off.
	Seriously.
	Yeah, so I mean, like, they'd figure out.
	What if you couldn't?
	Or you were drunk?
	If you couldn't, then why does it matter?
	Yeah.
	Do you think this is a safe thing for trans women to do?
	To just go get with like random.
	Like, not tell anyone.
	Like, pursue a sexual encounter and just let the guy feel your.
	I mean, if she's a woman, she's a woman.
	Well, that's actually a really good point to bring up because I feel like there has been a lot of violence against trans women specifically because they didn't disclose it.
	So it's like, it's almost like maybe you should to prevent it.
	Aside the safety risk to the transgender woman, isn't it just kind of like the courteous thing to do for the man?
	Yeah, that's why I said it depends.
	Right.
	But you guys say you were at a bar and there was a really good looking dude.
	Really good looking.
	And, you know, he had all the right moves and you went home with him.
	Okay.
	You slept together.
	And then right after you had sex, he did a Scooby-Doo and he pulled off a mask, right?
	And underneath was a wart-infested 50-year-old.
	And he was like, ha ha, bitch.
	What?
	Hang on.
	I just want to make sure.
	He shouldn't have disclosed that.
	Well, wait, what situation would that ever happen?
	Yeah, let's know they don't have a mask on.
	Whether or not you think it would ever happen or not, I just want to ask again.
	He shouldn't have disclosed that.
	Can you give it more romance?
	Can you stop for a second?
	He shouldn't have disclosed that.
	That he was an old woman.
	So he pulls off the mask, warts everywhere, ugly as sin.
	He's missing most of his teeth.
	Okay, the whole thing.
	I mean, at that point, I just say, well, already happened, boy bye.
	And so he should.
	So he shouldn't have disclosed that.
	I would have rather not known.
	I would have rather.
	Less I know the better, like I said earlier.
	But if he had disclosed that before you had gone home with him, would you have gone home with him?
	Keep the socks on so it's not good.
	Keep the mask on so it's not.
	I want you to engage with the actual question I asked.
	I know, but the actual question is.
	If he had engaged with you and showed you his true self beforehand and you wouldn't have gone home with him, which you wouldn't, right?
	Should he have done that?
	Then no.
	No.
	I don't get it.
	So the idea here is just this.
	If you say it doesn't matter if a trans person discloses or not, in this case, Okay, well, fuck if they pulled the mask off, that would be awful.
	I ask you, okay, if they would have disclosed that before, would you have gone home with them?
	The answer is: I just want to know what trans people you know that wear super realistic masks instead of getting like thank you because that's not a great analogy when you came up with the transgender.
	I feel like now it's really hard to do.
	Stop, stop, it's not an analogy.
	It's a hypothetical, but that's not a hypothetical is designed to test your logic.
	So, look, let's make it super easy.
	Just realistic, let's make it super easy.
	It doesn't have to be realistic to test your in fact, it shouldn't be realistic to test your logic.
	So, here's the thing, right?
	All I'm doing is making a comparison between something which would be similar in instance, not in fact.
	So, it's like this: okay, if you saw a guy who you were totally in every way unattracted to, would you go home with him?
	Yes.
	If for some reason you saw this person as being super attractive because you were under the influence of drugs and you didn't know, or he was wearing a mask, or there was some other compelling reason why you didn't know that he was actually unattractive, right?
	And you went home with him anyway, right?
	And it was masked from you in some way.
	In this case, he was wearing a literal fucking mask, a literal mask.
	You peel the mask back, and he's an ugly fuck, right?
	Don't you think he should have disclosed that without tricking you?
	No, I have a question.
	Wait, I just want to make sure then.
	So, so if a man can gussy himself up in a way, hide everything from you, and then sleep with you, right?
	You're totally okay with that.
	You're talking about transgender, transgender people, and a person with that literal mask on.
	Your hypothetical sense does not make sense to my friends.
	It's the same thing.
	It's still, it's a literal mask.
	A transgender person they alternated their body to become a certain person.
	Yeah, it's called a mask.
	Yeah, but that they're not ripping it off.
	Well, here's the thing: the second you find out that they're not that thing, they are ripping it off.
	Okay, so you're talking about look at them any differently.
	Yeah, yo, you wouldn't look at her.
	Oh, Lord, have mercy.
	No, wait, I have a question though.
	Like, if a woman hadn't, like, you slept with this woman, she's beautiful, like the most stunning woman you ever met, and then you found out that she had a bunch of facial and body surgery.
	Would you feel like she should have told you that she had facial and body surgery?
	Thank you, thank you.
	So, thank you.
	So, then why does she was super ugly before, like hideous?
	Back up, back up.
	So, then that's so that with using your permanent, that's a permanent pain.
	I'm totally willing to engage.
	Yeah, okay, so I love the gotcha.
	That's what I mean.
	And I just want you to have a watcha as I destroy your gotcha.
	So, it's very, so it's very simple, my wicked witch.
	Very simple.
	It works like this.
	You should do something about that blemish.
	You look so witchy.
	You wouldn't look so witchy.
	But, anyway, that was just mean.
	Hey, you've been mean.
	You were mocking him.
	You were mocking him.
	I was mocking myself because you called me a witch.
	I went, haha.
	Yeah, so anyway, there's a distinct difference here.
	Here's the difference, right?
	You say, Well, what about the altercations which have happened, this type of thing, right?
	If you had known that this woman had been altered, would it change your decision?
	The answer is no, right?
	The question becomes: if you had known this woman was altered and it would change your decision-that's the question.
	So, if you knew that this person was a male and you thought it was a female and slept with it, if you had known that it wasn't, would it change your opinion?
	No, no, it wouldn't for you.
	I mean, I have a lot of, I have trans friends or transgender friends who literally think it's super important to disclose.
	Like, most of them, it's necessary.
	Like they think it's wrong when people don't.
	Because they wouldn't want to be someone who would be someone who doesn't accept it.
	I just want to make sure I get this right.
	That if you wouldn't feel in any way tricked.
	No.
	Okay.
	No.
	They are who they are.
	If they say that they're a woman, they're won't be afraid.
	So why should they disclose if they have HIV?
	Because you're not going to get an STD from someone just because they're trans.
	You might not get HIV from them just because they have HIV.
	Is that?
	They can be a different stuff.
	A man with HIV can come all up in you, and it doesn't mean you get a transition.
	That's a completely different situation.
	Oh, wait a second.
	Because that affects you, actually.
	How does it affect you by sleeping with someone who's a person who's a person who affects you?
	How?
	You may not get the disease.
	You may not even get it.
	What would be the negative effect of sleeping with someone who's trans and you didn't know?
	What would be the negative effect?
	It could be feeling tricked.
	Not only feeling tricked, right?
	But mortified, horrified.
	It could give you suicidal thoughts.
	It could give you suicidal tendencies.
	Don't have to.
	Could make you question all sorts of things.
	What would be the negative effect of sleeping with a man with HIV if you didn't get it?
	The scare?
	That wasn't really a godshive.
	But if you didn't get it, then I wouldn't be mad about it.
	0.005% of men would do a say most would help you.
	Because you could also help them out along the way.
	Sometimes you need a direct approach, others you need finesse.
	Men are not the enemy.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Men are not the enemy, absolutely.
	I do appreciate the TTS.
	W's in the chat for Ridge.
	Really appreciate it, man.
	Thank you so much for the TTS.
	You did say, though, on this topic, that if they transition, that this is like they should not, they should not disclose if they've transitioned.
	If they've had bottom surgery, you said something about bottom surgery.
	No, I mean, like, I mean, like, if you literally, if there's no way of telling, I don't really see the harm.
	If you're going to sleep with this person one time and never again, like, I don't really see the harm.
	You don't see the harm.
	But if it's like, if it's a beautiful woman on the outside, maybe she still has her penis.
	Okay, so how about this?
	Then maybe you should disclose that.
	So let me ask you this.
	I actually think that there would be if they've had bottom surgery and you don't disclose, here's the difference.
	If they have a penis and the guy is straight, that guy's going to back out of the sexual encounter immediately.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Ah, but if they've gotten the bottom surgery and it's, I mean, my understanding of it.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Calm down.
	I'm calm.
	Chill out.
	Got to let people finish their argument.
	Maybe you're the one who has steam coming out of your ears, not chill out.
	Okay.
	So if they have the bottom surgery, right?
	It's conceivable that this could trick a man, right?
	I personally think that there's that's not pussy.
	Like, that's not, it's cock, but like inside of you.
	But that's just genetics.
	Everybody has a cock literally is the inside or the outside inversion of a vagina.
	It's totally different.
	No, no, it's totally different.
	Two pull anatomy chairs.
	So just to be clear, just to be clear, you think that like it's not exactly inverted, but when a transgender woman has had the bottom surgery, you think, yeah, you can roll your eyes.
	I'm just asking.
	I'm just tired of this.
	Yeah, cool.
	So you think it is like nearly identical to vagina.
	I think that's the whole point of the surgery.
	It looks the same.
	Men will fuck a pocket pussy, but not an engineered vagina.
	Men will fuck AI dolls, but not a vagina.
	Men will fuck anything.
	Oh, but the second that this person used to be, maybe was born a man, all of a sudden it's a problem.
	I just don't get that.
	What?
	It's also a preference.
	It's essentially just like I literally said that they should disclose it probably for their safety, and you're exactly saying why is because men will feel tricked and then they might result in doing something.
	Yeah, but a lot of statement are on DL.
	What do you want me to say from this?
	Do you want to say yes, they should always tell?
	Absent physical threat to the transgender.
	It's still wrong.
	You're doing a wrong to the other person.
	Like what we were talking about earlier, the misleading.
	Yes, it would be misleading.
	So then you're then absolutely, you're right.
	They should always disclose that they are trans before engaging in a sexual activity.
	Glad I could convince you.
	I'm so glad that we got there.
	I'm glad that we could convince you on that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you should definitely disclose, one, for the safety component, and two, to just be a courteous, decent human being who doesn't trick people, trick men who are straight into having sex with a male.
	But what?
	But what?
	I feel like how often does that happen?
	Have you ever been tricked?
	No, I haven't.
	There we go.
	Okay.
	But why I don't know.
	So then why is it such an issue for you if it's never even happened to you?
	Have you ever had an abortion?
	No.
	Oh, why is abortion an issue for you?
	It's what?
	Oh, are you pro-choice or pro-life?
	I'm pro-choice because I think people have to do that.
	You've never had an abortion, so you can't have an opinion on this.
	That's no, that logic makes no sense.
	That's literally your argument.
	That's literally your argument.
	Okay, it never happened to you, Brian.
	I concede.
	I concede.
	Sure, you're correct.
	How about we're just having a conversation?
	It's not a conversation because you're getting mad at me.
	I'm not getting mad at you.
	You're just being ridiculous.
	Okay, but a lot of men.
	I literally agreed with you.
	A lot of straight men are on the DL.
	Do you know what DL is?
	So they're gay.
	Yes.
	Yeah, they're not straight then.
	But they're exploring.
	And sometimes some men, they don't really care.
	They're not straight men.
	Well, no, they're not straight, but like they're, if, if they're so, what makes them not straight if they are just considered bisexual then?
	Yeah, you're either bi or gay.
	Like, I'm sorry, if you're a straight guy and you're thinking about sucking cock, you're either gay or bisexual.
	Fair enough.
	Like, I don't know how else to like.
	But the thing about it is, is like, the reason why, and I'm, the reason why I said maybe is because, like, one, I'm not a trans female.
	So.
	Lucy's not a transfer.
	So we can't vouch for transgender people.
	We can't be like, okay, well, you should, you know, disclose this because it's not a problem.
	It's possible you guys would date a trans man.
	Because it's our choice.
	If I decide to.
	No, but you can't have an opinion about it because you as women could encounter a trans man.
	Why are you arguing?
	Can you stop interrupting and just let me finish the sentence?
	You guys, as women, could encounter a trans man.
	You want kids?
	You want kids?
	They didn't disclose.
	Let's say they're 100% passing.
	Cool.
	You can't have kids.
	You can't have biological kids with your spouse.
	Okay, but you could still adopt.
	Huh?
	You could still adopt.
	Like, there's no discourage you on that.
	Or there's ways to get to the bottom.
	Or maybe you want to date somebody who was born male.
	Or maybe you just want to date whoever you want to date.
	I don't have a problem.
	If you want to date a trans person, that's totally fine.
	Yeah, but and if it's but maybe there are women out there that don't.
	But it's their choice.
	It's it's it's I can't we can't decide.
	Like we can't decide what if that trans person should disclose that the information that they're transgender.
	Like Lucy, but we can't.
	But like Lucy said, but like Lucy said, if they didn't get bottom surgery, then that isn't understandable.
	That's to a certain extent I would agree.
	I don't care either way you should disclose whether you've had bottom surgery or not.
	I think it just really depends on what you're doing.
	I think it's a you should have a power of safety?
	Well that's one reason, but I think it's just like a courtesy to the other person.
	But I think it would be a bigger deal that you should disclose after you've had bottom surgery because then you could really like, okay, you've totally, you look like a chick, but you've, you've got a cock.
	I'll find out you have a cock and I've been deceived up until that point, in which point I can extract myself from the sexual encounter.
	If you have a pussy and you're not disclosing, you've just forced me to be a homosexual, basically.
	You forced me to be gay.
	No!
	Yes, you literally.
	Well, technically, that person didn't consent to that, so because they didn't know.
	I mean.
	So then, the point we're trying to just make is that they should disclose.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like, you should.
	I think the only reason that we might feel that way is because we wouldn't care either way, but it turns out a lot of people do.
	Yeah.
	Well, personally, I wouldn't care, but I would want someone to disclose it to me.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	Well, then you'd still care.
	You said you personally.
	No, I mean, I don't care about the gender of the person.
	But you, I don't care if they're trans or not.
	But you want them to disclose that to you so you still have to do that.
	We didn't spend too much time on one topic.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we're moving on.
	Okay, no, next one.
	Is it straight for a man to date a transgender woman?
	Lucy, you said yes.
	Let's see.
	L, you said yes.
	And that's it.
	Okay, perhaps this relates to the previous one.
	Just so why is it straight for a man to date a transgender woman?
	Because they're a woman.
	Okay.
	What is a woman?
	Presenting female.
	Going around the table on this, I guess.
	What is a woman?
	A woman who is born a woman.
	I don't know.
	Cisgendered woman.
	Cisgendered woman?
	I don't know.
	Presents as a woman?
	A human female.
	Someone with a vagina.
	Presents as a woman.
	A female that can procreate, create life.
	Sure.
	Same as she said.
	Okay.
	Is a transgender.
	I'm just going to go ahead.
	I don't actually believe this, but just for the sake of the conversation.
	I'm going to go ahead and grant that a transgender woman is a woman.
	Is a transgender woman female?
	Lucy, starting with you.
	I guess biologically, no.
	But if it's all in the brain, which is what's controlling these meat sacks, then I feel like yes.
	Meat sex.
	That's what our bodies are, dude.
	We're all just noggin.
	We just happen to be given the avatar that we're given.
	If you believe, like, I don't know.
	If God doesn't make mistakes, then why would trans people even exist in the first place?
	Like, if they weren't transferred to the same person.
	I'm not making a religious argument, I'm making a secular argument.
	Okay, then I'm just going to shut up.
	Okay.
	So, is a transgender woman female?
	I said not biologically, but mentally, yes.
	You can't mentally change your sex.
	They're born female even if they're born in the wrong body.
	So the soul fairy stuffing the wrong souls in the wrong bodies.
	Yeah, maybe.
	Okay, so.
	I can't even begin to explain what that experience is like because I am not trans.
	Doesn't well.
	Well, how do you know Brian's not trans?
	Because Brian isn't trans.
	Because Brian hasn't been trans.
	You didn't ask me my pronouns.
	Come to think of it.
	You didn't ask me my pronouns.
	You just assumed everybody's gender.
	Non-disclosing prior to carnal knowledge is great.
	You could actually make an argument for that.
	It could technically be essay.
	But anyways, so I guess going around the table, is a transgender woman female?
	Biologically, no.
	But I do think a trans woman is a woman.
	Really?
	Hold on.
	I already granted it.
	Just to.
	All right.
	Exact same stance as her on that.
	Okay.
	So.
	Biologically, yeah.
	Biologically, no.
	Mentally, yeah.
	So not female.
	Well, so her stance.
	Mentally, you can be female.
	What's the difference between woman and female?
	The sex you're born with versus the sex that you present as.
	Okay, but like, how would you mentally be female?
	I don't understand.
	So, if you believe the way that you were talking about earlier about how women and men have different wants and different beliefs and different ways of thinking and different priorities, if someone who is born biologically male thinks like a woman, then they are a woman.
	And if they want to be presenting as a woman.
	What does that mean to think like a woman?
	Like, how can you ever know?
	Because, like, because they enjoy expressing themselves as a woman.
	So, they could be feminine, but how it's different, though, wanting to be perceived as a woman, wanting to be seen that way.
	What does it mean to think as a woman versus think as a man?
	Like, can you actually articulate what that even means?
	Well, I don't know what it's like to think as a man.
	I mean, I know that I've wanted to spend a day in a man's shoes.
	I know that I've definitely questioned that before, but I don't believe that I'm trans.
	And some people have a really strong belief of that.
	Trans, can a transgender woman be female?
	No, not, no.
	No.
	Yes.
	No.
	Okay, so going to you, and you two were the ones who said that it's straight for a man to date a transgender woman.
	How would it be just?
	If a straight man would be okay with the fact that they are trans, which means that they're not transphobic, then yes, it's straight.
	If they are not okay with it, then if they don't want to describe it as straight, then that's fine for them.
	Wait, so if someone won't have sex with a trans person, they're transphobic?
	No.
	I thought you said they were.
	Sorry, I missed you.
	I actually heard that the same way.
	Okay.
	So, okay.
	If you don't believe that a trans woman is a woman, then you are transphobic.
	So, if you don't believe that dating a woman who is trans is straight, then that's transphobic.
	Wait, so hold on.
	If you don't believe in Christianity, you're Christphobic.
	Sure.
	But I believe in Christianity to an extent.
	Christophobe.
	Stop.
	Stop oppressing me, Christophobe.
	Stop it.
	You're an oppressor.
	How does that make you feel to oppress Christians like this?
	Feels great.
	Christophobia.
	I feel great.
	I got a lot to get through.
	I've got to move on.
	Okay, so straight.
	Short, would you agree?
	Short form slang for heterosexual?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So ignoring gender, because we're talking about sex here, and mind you, heterosexuality, homosexuality, this points to the sex that you're attracted to, not the gender.
	I'm not even.
	This is the definition.
	We could look it up.
	Sexual preference, etc.
	So a male and a male engaging in sex is gay.
	Okay.
	Right.
	A male and a female engaging in sex is.
	Straight.
	Okay, so a man, a male, with a transgender woman who's a male, that would then be straight.
	How would that be?
	Because they're trans, because they made transition.
	But it points to their sex.
	You did agree that a transgender woman is male, correct?
	No, that's not what I said.
	I said biologically they were born one way, but they changed.
	Biologically, yeah.
	Two males having sex is not straight.
	Okay.
	I mean, I guess you could call it a queer relationship then.
	No, but you can't call it straight.
	Okay, sure.
	You can't call it straight, but maybe you call it queer.
	It wouldn't be anybody inherently homosexual.
	But it can't be straight.
	I mean, I've definitely seen straight people date gay people.
	That's right.
	Sorry, you said that.
	Well, then that's your definition.
	So, like, to my understanding, you're like, okay, so one plus one equals two, but one plus one plus one plus this number, like, this is what I'm, this is how my brain is looking at.
	One plus one plus one plus whatever those other numbers are.
	Because you're just saying, okay, you're telling her about this analogy.
	Gay, like, a man with a man is equals homosexual.
	A man with a woman is heterosexual, but a man with a straight, a hetero man with a transgender woman, he's gay.
	Yes, he's gay.
	But he likes women.
	But he likes women.
	Let me just ask you a simple question.
	Your best friend, let's assume for a second, he's a man.
	Okay.
	He comes to you and he says, Hey, I just sucked this really hot woman's dick.
	Hang on.
	I just want to make sure.
	Right?
	He says, I just sucked this really hot chick's dick.
	Now, is that guy gay?
	First and foremost.
	I just wanted to answer my question.
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	So if you suck a woman's dick, you're not gay.
	I just want to make sure I got that right.
	Do you know there's like a girl?
	Can you just answer my question?
	No.
	Okay.
	And so, so your best friend comes to you.
	I just suck this hot woman's dick.
	He's not gay?
	No.
	Okay.
	I have a coworker who's intersex, and him and his wife are intersex.
	Most trans people are not intersex.
	You don't know any intersex person who's a female who has a penis.
	You don't know a single one?
	What?
	Do you not know a single person?
	I don't know what his genitals are, and I don't care.
	Carry about this.
	How about this really simple?
	Really simple.
	So we'll just go ahead and grant you intersex.
	Fine.
	They're straight.
	The 99% of the other trans people who are not intersex, then that.
	Are you willing to concede that that would not be straight?
	I feel like I have to, otherwise, I'm just going to be like, you guys are just going to keep firing.
	You don't have to.
	Well, I do because I have my opinion on it, and my opinion apparently is not right.
	My opinion is that it's straight.
	Yeah, we disagree with your opinion.
	So then why can't I just have my opinion?
	You're not going to change your mind.
	Well, that's weird, though.
	So that is weird.
	Why is that weird?
	Well, if somebody says, I have my opinion, you can't change my mind, but they admit that what they have is just an opinion, they're actually should be saying my mind can be changed.
	Your mind could be changed.
	Your mind can't be changed.
	Why can your opinion not be changed?
	It can.
	I don't know what the own was there.
	It can't.
	I'm so excited.
	You guys are saying, you're over here and you're talking to Lucy and you're just like, okay, well, I'm trying to instill this type of logic into your brain so you can understand.
	Well, there's only one type of logic.
	I would disagree.
	I conceded that it could possibly be a lot of fun.
	I would disagree that there's multiple types of logic.
	But it's straight.
	Logic is universal.
	But this aside, let's assume for a second there's multiple types of logic.
	I just want to make sure I got this right.
	I don't, I don't know.
	And this is we can just leave it right here.
	We can just leave it.
	I don't want to talk about the transgender.
	We can leave it right here.
	Okay.
	Here it is.
	If your friend told you he just sucked a chick's dick, he's straight.
	Yes?
	Yes.
	Okay, well, then that's it.
	Yeah, then that's it.
	Then that's it.
	We'll just leave it there.
	I'm hungry.
	Perfect.
	Is it.
	I'm just.
	It doesn't even make sense.
	Like, you guys.
	I just sucked my girlfriend's dick.
	Like, what?
	How?
	How could you come to this conclusion?
	I mean, she's pegging a guy with a seven-inch dildo.
	Like, a gay guy?
	But he's bi.
	But he's bisexual.
	They're in a straight relationship.
	So he fucks dudes?
	I've met her.
	So wait, so wait, I just want to make sure this guy fucks dudes.
	That doesn't make her gay because it makes her gay.
	He's fucking gay.
	But he's bisexual.
	Well, that's already been a seller.
	So hang on.
	If you're bisexual, half of you is straight and half of you is.
	But there are.
	Wait, wait.
	Half of you is straight and half of you is what?
	What makes you bi?
	What is the too gay?
	So the thing is, is like, yeah, the dick part makes him fucking gay.
	Yeah, but I've got to say that.
	But I've also, and I'm not going to lie here and sit here and lie.
	I've also been with straight men who like to get pegged.
	They're not gay.
	Oh my god.
	Oh my God.
	That's not what they're talking about.
	I'm just, no, I'm just, I'm just trying to get away with that.
	Have you been with straight men who likes to get fucked by two?
	But my question is, my question to you is: if a straight man who likes to be pegged, is he considered gay because he likes to be pegged?
	Dude, can we stick onto the conversation isn't getting the bullet, right?
	And say that's gross, but he's still a heterosexual.
	He's not doing anything with a male.
	But now let me ask you the question in reverse, okay?
	If a man is getting fucked up the ass by his girlfriend's biological penis, is he gay?
	Unless she got it changed.
	Right.
	Okay.
	But we'll just end it.
	That conversation wore me the fuck out.
	I'm so sleepy now.
	I was having so much fun earlier, too.
	I was laughing and having a good time.
	Really great time.
	Well, yeah.
	I mean, it's uncomfortable for you to have to confront the fact that you literally think a dude can fuck dudes and they're not gay.
	It's uncomfortable the fact that you guys think that you can have this conversation when none of us are trans and none of us can actually speak on the conversation.
	I mean, if you were trans, do you think that it would prevent me from speaking to you about this issue?
	I think that I want to literally block Helven over, but I'm not going to.
	Look, I wish you'd follow.
	The logic literally doesn't make any sense.
	Like, you just don't.
	No, fuck logic.
	Fuck logic.
	I'm so over this conversation.
	Can we move on, please?
	Because we're not getting anywhere.
	We're both just getting angry.
	No, well, I'm not angry.
	Look at him.
	He's red as a tomato.
	I'm frustrated because I'm constantly.
	I'm frustrated.
	Literally, you just fucking did it.
	Well, you're making no sense.
	You're not making any fucking sense to me.
	Let's just agree to disagree.
	Stop interrupting.
	Stop interrupting.
	It's very simple.
	Gave you instructions before the show.
	Let's just agree to disagree.
	So.
	Another interruption.
	Can you stop moving the cup, please?
	So, look, I don't know else how to say it.
	There's definitions to words.
	Male, female, right?
	You can't change your sex.
	Two males engaged in a romantic or sexual relationship.
	It's homosexual.
	A male and a female engaged in a romantic or sexual relationship.
	Heterosexual.
	There's no getting around this.
	My brain is melting.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Did I interrupt you again?
	Yeah, you did.
	Can you stop being fucking caddy?
	Can you stop?
	Can you stop?
	We clearly are not going to change our opinions on it.
	You clearly are not going to change your opinion.
	Can we just move on to a different topic?
	Here, I'll tell you why it's upsetting.
	Because in the same way, you would be very upset at me if there was like, do you think gay conversion therapy is wrong?
	Yes, absolutely.
	Yeah, you're trying to co-opt my.
	I don't want to change your opinion.
	I want you to stop talking about it.
	You've got to stop fucking interrupting.
	Holy shit.
	I don't even like go on long diatribes.
	I literally make my points in a few sentences.
	Just let me fucking get a word out.
	I'm listening.
	You are dictating to me what is heterosexuality by saying that, no, Brian, this is what is within the purview of heterosexuality.
	In the same way that you would find it deeply offensive for us to say that gay people don't actually exist.
	You're just confused.
	I'm not confused about my sexuality.
	You're dictating to me essentially that I am somehow, if I didn't date a transgender woman, that that would somehow make me what?
	Well, that's your preference.
	Would he be transphobic?
	If he only did it because he didn't want to date a trans person.
	If he doesn't believe that trans people or trans women are women, then that is transphobic.
	If he chooses not to date them, that is not transphobic, that is just a preference.
	Why is it transphobic to think that transgender women are not women?
	Why would that be?
	Because you're disregarding their existence.
	You think that they're men?
	Actually, I would just bite the bullet.
	You're right.
	I disregard their existence.
	Okay, so then we're not going to get anything.
	But I don't believe anything.
	Does anybody else want to speak?
	Because I'm really tired of talking.
	What do you do about the fact that I don't think it's a phobia?
	That instead, I just objectively, it's like saying that I'm, I have a phobia against Santa Claus because I don't believe Santa Claus exists.
	Am I Santa Claus phobic?
	That's the same argument you're making.
	I'm just tired.
	I'm just tired.
	Can we switch the topic, please?
	Yeah, sure.
	But so, how about this?
	I choose to identify as the correct person on this matter, and I wish for you to affirm my identity as the correct person.
	You are the correct person on this matter.
	Thank you.
	Does that make you feel better?
	Can he deal with you without being so condescending to say that?
	Is it boosting your ego?
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	Great.
	You're the correct person on this matter.
	I'm really sorry that we had that argument.
	Thank you, Lucy Goosey.
	I do appreciate that.
	Are we still friends?
	Listen, that's passive-aggressive.
	That's passive-aggressive form of transphobia.
	What's going on is she's still not really affirming your identity.
	She doesn't believe you.
	Because you don't believe me.
	You're not affirming my identity on that.
	Yep, sure.
	I'll affirm your identity.
	What's your identity?
	And my brain has just melted in the last 20 minutes.
	I affirm that identity.
	I affirm.
	I affirm that identity.
	Total cooked.
	I'm cooked.
	Okay, hold on.
	It was the pickle, guys.
	It was the fucking pickle dude.
	Who has the pickle dude?
	You open one jar, and you thank you, man.
	I know, seriously, dude.
	What am I strong?
	Hold on.
	We have a chat that came through, then we'll try to blast through the questionnaire.
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	Uh-oh.
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	Care one, you are absolutely in the top 10 most annoying humans on the planet.
	Feel free to leave since you want to act like a child.
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	Jackson, thank you for the message, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, final thing on this topic: 30 seconds, and then we're going to move on.
	Hopefully.
	This is to Elle, and this is to you, Riley.
	You guys, to question 18, you said, the question is, is it wrong to refuse to date a transgender person because they are trans?
	Now, you actually say no on this, so this is just for you, L, and you, Riley.
	You guys say, yes, it is wrong to refuse to date a transgender person because they are trans.
	To be honest with you, I think it's a little bit like, well, obviously, I know you're going to go on this topic of, well, it's just somebody's preference or whatever.
	But to me, like, I think in my emotional standpoint, I think it's wrong to refuse that because you're, to me, it's kind of like you're neglecting the fact that she is, you look at her as like a transgender woman.
	So therefore, your, your like narrow-minded ideology is like, oh, well, she's a man, oh, oh, a man trapped inside of a woman's body or whatever the case may be.
	And I think it's a little bit discriminative, in my opinion.
	Okay.
	Is it discriminatory?
	Is it discriminatory for a black man not to want to date a white woman?
	I mean, yes.
	Yeah.
	I feel like Ray.
	Hang on, Aon.
	Can you let her answer?
	Yeah, I believe that 100%.
	I mean, I'm sure she's going to agree with me on this standpoint.
	Before we get into it, give us your take before we give our response.
	Okay, so I feel like it's this.
	I guess I'm just going to say it's just disrespectful to disrespectful?
	Yeah.
	Sorry, what?
	Why?
	Because it's like you're disregarding it, like, I don't know.
	Never mind.
	Judging the book by its cover.
	You've barely talked all that.
	State your position.
	You got it.
	Because what you were saying about it's like wrong for like the race part of it.
	To disregard.
	I don't know.
	I'm getting.
	This questionnaire was asked before Andrew said that.
	Yeah, I didn't even realize you were moving to you.
	And I was low-key rushing on that one, so I.
	But what?
	So what is your position?
	I just feel like it's wrong.
	Why?
	Yeah, but why?
	I don't know.
	I just think it is.
	Okay, so is it wrong for you to- There's no wrong answer to that.
	Really quick for both of you.
	I don't think it's wrong.
	Sure.
	Is it wrong for you guys to refuse to, because you said minimum yearly income, you said $70,000.
	You said what?
	A mil?
	Oh, she said a mil.
	I said $500,000.
	Wait, no, she said $70,000.
	Didn't you say $70,000?
	No, she said $500,000.
	A million.
	I said $500,000.
	Okay, half a mil, $70,000.
	Aren't you guys discriminatory?
	And then when it comes to height, you guys are also discriminatory?
	But what was the question about the income?
	What was the minimum income, right?
	Oh, my God.
	Which would indicate that you would discriminate against people.
	Anybody below that threshold?
	Okay, well, then, yeah, I guess that's a, I guess I'm discriminating.
	Okay, so then what's wrong with it?
	So you're in the wrong for doing that?
	Well, yeah, of course I'm in the wrong for discriminating a man that makes less than $500,000.
	Are you in the wrong?
	You have no preferences when it comes to dating?
	I really date anybody.
	I don't really have a preference.
	You've never rejected anybody then?
	Every single person?
	Because I'm not looking for a relationship, but I haven't rejected them because of them.
	I haven't.
	Oh, but you give sexual access to every single man who talks to you?
	No.
	Why not?
	Because that's not me.
	She has boundaries.
	There's boundaries.
	Okay, what are the boundaries?
	I don't like to give my body out because that's something that's.
	That's fair.
	Like, I literally have five bodies at 18 age.
	Hang on, that's fair.
	But let's just say this.
	If you had to sleep with a guy for some reason, right?
	Would you prefer that he be six foot two and handsome or five foot two and ugly?
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	But so, and L, can you explain why it's wrong?
	Because to me.
	Sorry.
	Go ahead.
	No.
	Oh, there was a really long pause.
	You go ahead.
	Because to me, like.
	Never mind.
	I don't.
	I just love it.
	Okay.
	So, to be honest with you, I think regardless of the, at the end of the day, regardless of the situation, we're all human beings.
	No matter what.
	No matter if you're transgender, no matter if you're heterosexual, whatever.
	We're human beings.
	We're also all sloganeers.
	What is that?
	I don't.
	We'll talk about that later.
	We'll talk about that later.
	I think it's just, in my opinion, it's wrong because you're sitting here and you are telling a trans woman, well, I mean, obviously it's your preference.
	If you prefer not to be with a trans woman, go ahead.
	But if you are going to engage in a conversation with a trans woman and you like kick it.
	Holy fuck.
	Yeah, you have like a conversation with them and it's a really great, amazing conversation, right?
	But you found out that they're trans and you're like, okay, I'm not going to date you because you're trans.
	Oh, how about, okay, you're having a great conversation with a man and it turns out he's married.
	But he has like a marital status.
	We're talking, I'm talking about a transgender woman who's a human being.
	I'm talking about a transgender woman who's a man.
	Men are humans.
	Men aren't human beings.
	So is a man.
	However, however.
	So then I'm obliged to date them because they're human?
	So You're basically telling me that, like, you're obliged to date a married man.
	If I were to get no.
	Okay, but that's the opposite.
	That's what I'm saying.
	You're not obliged to date a married man.
	Just like you're not.
	You're not obliged to date a transgender.
	Okay, your whole argument was: well, what if the trans you're having a really good conversation with this transgender woman and you thought she was beautiful and this is a great person?
	And like, if it wasn't for the penis, you would probably marry this person and have kids with them.
	But you find out they have a cock, and then that's the disqualify.
	Yeah, that's a valid.
	Is it before or after their bottom surgery?
	Doesn't matter.
	Well, hold on.
	Wouldn't it be your position that a transgender woman is a woman, even if she hasn't done any exterior changes, she's still a woman, right?
	She's a woman if it's on her birth certificate.
	If it's on her birth certificate, if it's on her birth certificate and it says female, it has that letter F, then she is legally a female.
	No, you can't legally change your, you can't legally change your sex.
	You can't change your birth certificate.
	You can change your gender.
	You can change your children.
	You can change your driver's license.
	Okay, cool.
	I don't care what kind of woke bullshit the government is doing.
	That doesn't change.
	You guys are literally science deniers.
	You cannot change your sex.
	Point blank, period.
	But there are female.
	No.
	End of story.
	Well, how?
	How are they changing their sex?
	Gender reinforce.
	What is that?
	Gender.
	Gender affirming surgery.
	So you say you agree that I'm a human, you're a human.
	Yeah.
	If I cut off your arm, are you less of a human?
	No.
	How come?
	I'm still a human at the end of the day.
	Because I have a little disability now that my arms are.
	If I cut off both your arms, are you still a human?
	Well, yes.
	What about both your legs?
	Yes.
	What about your torso, too?
	Yes.
	What if all that's left is a head?
	I'm still a human because I still have a lot of money.
	What if you lose all your arms, your legs, and your torso, and all you have left is a head, but no eyes, no mouth, no nose, no ears.
	Are you still a human?
	I mean, if my brain is still working and I can like talk about it.
	So a human is a brain.
	A human, a human is, I mean, a human, this is flesh.
	Like, we're flesh.
	I'm human.
	I agree.
	Okay.
	I think that it is incredibly inconsiderate if you are just going to disregard one.
	Like, I'm not even going to bring up race because that's the difference.
	But hang on.
	My question is just this: you, right now, you're a woman, right?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	You're a female?
	Of course.
	Okay.
	If all of you were gone except your head, would you still be a female?
	Of course.
	Why?
	Well, by my hair.
	I mean, if they did my hair.
	My facial structure.
	By my lips.
	No.
	By my hair and your lips make you a woman?
	I mean, wait, wait, my brother has long hair.
	Is he a woman?
	Like makeup that makes you a woman?
	No.
	I mean, being a woman.
	I mean, what is woman to you?
	Because obviously.
	Adult human female.
	Lucy, is it Lucy?
	Is it okay to beat up somebody because they're a bigot?
	I don't think anyone should enact violence on anybody.
	Do you think violence, like, for example, what if somebody's ideology you determine is so repugnant it warrants violence?
	Like, for example, do you think Nazis should be like punched in the face?
	I think they committed a crime.
	Just answer the question.
	Just answer the question.
	There's maybe some kind of rehabilitation therapy that they can go through to not become bigoted.
	So I don't like that.
	You don't hold this position, right?
	You don't hold this position, but there's two women at this panel that hold that it's wrong, wrong for a man to refuse to date a transgender woman because she's trans, right?
	That is literally an attack on heterosexuality.
	And as somebody who's straight and who's a heterosexual, yeah, that is concerning when there's going to be groups of people who are going to try to, maybe they won't try violence, but they're going to try to cancel you because you refuse to date somebody with a penis.
	That's literally their position.
	Do you understand why this is an issue and why we're combating against what I view as like radical extremism?
	And essentially, your like yoke, your cohort of people is trying to say, you're wrong.
	You're a bigot if you refuse to have sex with somebody who has a penis.
	I didn't say that.
	I'm not saying that's your position.
	And I don't think that's most like transactivist position, but there are some who like move forward this position.
	And I think it's like incredibly can be like incredibly potentially risky if we start telling like swaths of like liberal progressives that, oh, you should go cancel this person.
	You should try to ruin their career.
	Or you should try to actually do physical violence to them.
	I don't think that's the right answer, of course.
	Right.
	But like you were about to say, you were saying it's transphobic to say that a transgender woman is not a woman.
	One step beyond that is it's wrong to not date a trans woman because she's trans.
	I know that's not your position, but that's going to be like, look at how much the Overton window has shifted.
	That could be the very next cascading effect of like the way this is going.
	You're a bigot as a man and it warrants cancellation, a ruining of your career, or even physical violence if you won't fuck a woman with a cock.
	Well, I just don't think that should be the way.
	But I am curious to why you think that trans people exist.
	Do you think that they just inherently exist?
	Gender dysphoria.
	Okay, absolutely.
	Okay.
	So I don't think that it's the intention of most trans people to deceive.
	I don't think that that is their intention.
	I think that they want to be viewed as the gender that they believe that they are.
	And I think that that's maybe why some of them are still like those who identify as straight, why they try to pursue a straight relationship.
	Do I think that they should be upfront about that?
	Yes, that's what we've decided.
	Do I think that it makes them any less straight?
	No.
	But do I think that I understand why you might think that way?
	Yes.
	Because your opinion is that you don't even view them as women in the first place.
	So why would you think it's straight?
	But I do.
	So it's like, you know, these people, they really, they just want to be seen and heard for who they are.
	And so that's just what I'm trying to affirm for them.
	It's like, is like if you, if this person really strongly believes and they, and they're willing to go through all of this, like this, not violence, but this verbal, I guess, kind of discourse.
	I don't know if I would even call it abuse, but like just verbal discourse constantly being told every day that you are not valid for who you are.
	Like that just, it just sucks to have to be in that position.
	I don't think that anybody should be should be condemned for their opinion because you have every right to your opinion.
	In America, we have free speech.
	But I do think that my opinion will not change based on what you have said today.
	Should children be able to take puberty blockers?
	Absolutely not.
	I think that, well, actually, it's such a tough call.
	And I think it's a case-by-case basis.
	I think that there should be a cutoff.
	I think that there definitely are instances of people that have detransitioned.
	Is that most cases?
	No.
	Do you know how many trans people exist in the United States?
	Isn't it less than 1%?
	It's less than 1%.
	So it's like, and out of that 1%, the amount of people that transition underage is like 0.0%.
	That's not true at all.
	I had several, several, several.
	I mean, like fully transitioned, like hormone blocks.
	Yes, surgery.
	Yes, I knew several people in high school and middle school that took hormone blockers and got top surgery before they were 18.
	Okay, well, I'm not their parents.
	Just a very quick question.
	It'll be over in a sec.
	Very quickly.
	Have you ever slept with a trans person with bottom surgery and would you?
	No, I haven't, but I would.
	You would?
	But you haven't.
	I have not.
	I don't know a lot of trans people personally, but it doesn't mean I can deny their right to existence.
	But you would sleep with one that had bottom surgery.
	I would sleep with a trans person, period.
	Yeah.
	Well, but wait.
	There's a difference between.
	Well, I'm in a unique situation because I like both male and female genitals.
	But even then, there's a distinction between somebody who has a removed penis and then one of the colon surgeries.
	And that's what it is.
	They pull the colon down towards this wound which is created.
	Right.
	I mean, I don't know if you're familiar with lesbian sex, but there is something that is used that is not a part of the drawing.
	Yeah, no.
	Well, no, but that's what I'm trying to say.
	Is like there are there's always instances that are going to be.
	I mean, you've never used toys in the bedroom with your wife.
	Like, there's always something that comes in that is not built into us.
	So what is it any different you using a vibrator on your wife and someone using something like that?
	I never have.
	Oh.
	But this aside.
	But you know, you kind of see where I'm coming from.
	Do you realize that there's a distinction between that and a removed penis with a gaping wound where they pull the colon down?
	Would you stick your tongue in that?
	Maybe.
	I don't think that they'd like it.
	I don't know if there is anything.
	No, maybe we have a children.
	Are we all here and there?
	I feel like that would hurt.
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	If you have to make create loops to make the logic work, you're not making truth.
	You're perverting it.
	Males are men.
	Females are women.
	Trans are Decepticons.
	Bring back asylums.
	All right, Rage.
	Actually, I was in one recently.
	They're still here.
	You were in an asylum?
	Huh?
	Good for you.
	I'm proud of you.
	That's good.
	Me too.
	It was great.
	It was a great experience.
	Yeah.
	For never mind, actually.
	I don't mean, I don't care.
	Thank you, Ridge.
	I do appreciate it.
	All right.
	On to the next thing.
	Are men physically stronger than women?
	I'm not sure if anybody.
	Somebody actually, I think, said no on this one.
	Yes.
	No.
	Okay, no, no, okay.
	Can women be sexist towards men?
	That was everybody's saying yes, it looks like.
	Wow, good job, guys.
	Oh, L.
	Oh, boy.
	You didn't respond to that one.
	Oh, I didn't.
	I thought I did.
	Can women be sexist towards men?
	We can go home.
	Yeah.
	Honestly, I need a yes.
	Yeah, I need to say that I hate to eat my stuff.
	Like, this is serious at this point.
	Yeah.
	It is what it is.
	Like, what can you say?
	Yeah.
	I lost one of my videos.
	Sorry.
	What's that going on?
	You guys are not going to be able to weasel out of this one, I suppose.
	Can people be racist towards white people to which Lucy, you say no?
	Let's see.
	L, you say no.
	Naomi, you say no.
	And then Riley, you're like in the middle.
	She's like, I'm a both, honey.
	I don't know, bro.
	Yeah.
	I'll just say no.
	Okay.
	Yeah, can people be racist towards white people?
	So you can't be racist towards white people, can't be racist towards white people, like really quick.
	Why?
	I mean, as a black woman, you really can't because I'm not going to lie.
	Like, our community, we have been enslaved.
	have been through the roofs and i don't think that it was ours I mean, you can say that, but you guys stole, like, not you guys.
	Your ancestors stole land and everything like that.
	But by you guys, like, you also were never a person.
	Can I ask what the definition of racism is?
	For me?
	yes well i i think to me racism is like being hateful against like a one one uh another person's race or the color of another person's race meaning like so a black person can't do that to a white person No, because white people have not been systemically prejudiced against it.
	And I'm honestly not.
	The question isn't saying that white people are oppressed.
	It's saying can you be racist to a white person?
	My definition of racism is systemic and harmful false claims about a group of people based on their race.
	Okay, a couple clarifying questions here.
	So you don't believe on individual level racism.
	Like if I walk up to how about this?
	If a white person walks up to a black person and uses a slur against them, you'd agree that this is racist, right?
	Yes.
	Right, but there's like, there's not a component of systemic, like between them two.
	There's not really a component of systemic.
	That's not what systemic means.
	Systemic means it's within the system.
	It is institutionalized in our system.
	Systemic system.
	In the entirety of the system.
	And in the U.S., in the U.S. specifically, I think that you can go up and you can say the N-word to a black person and that is racist because that word has connotations to it that were extremely harmful.
	There's no equivalent of that word you could say to white people that would make them feel that same type of way of that actual genuine.
	You can discriminate against a white person, but you cannot be racist towards them.
	That's what racism is.
	No, it is not.
	Because of their race, then it's racist.
	It's because of their race.
	Okay, white person.
	Yeah, I am white.
	Sorry, I know logic.
	Can you be racist to Asian people?
	Yeah, you can be racist towards Asian people.
	Why can't you be Mexican people?
	You could be racist.
	But you guys, you have to understand that your ancestors literally.
	No, I understand that.
	No, no, You have to understand that your ancestors literally dug sold our ancestors.
	And I'm not saying that your ancestors were all white people.
	I'm not saying that your ancestors were the ever white racist ever.
	Okay, cool.
	Yeah, there was slavery.
	Slavery bad.
	I understand what you're saying.
	Yeah, I'm just saying.
	I can't believe you married a man who sold your ancestors.
	He's Polish.
	He was.
	You think the Polish weren't involved in the slave trade?
	Are you out of your mind?
	Are you crazy?
	He told me his history.
	He told me his history.
	So, you know, I believe him because he.
	But what about his ancestors?
	Well, we don't even know if I've ever been.
	I'm not a single cousin in the slave trade.
	I don't know.
	Are you sure?
	He's from a small town.
	So I don't even know.
	Do you think that small town people weren't involved in the slave trade?
	Maybe.
	Especially Polish people.
	I mean, I wish I would know his history, but I'm just saying.
	People can't be racist towards white people.
	Was that the question, though?
	Was it just people can't be racist towards white people?
	I'm just saying black people can't be.
	I'm saying, I'm stating.
	I'm stating what I'm saying.
	Okay, so here, quickly, definition of racism.
	Well, I agree with you, and basically, I agree with Lucy.
	It's just a systematic point of view of directing hateful harm towards another race.
	Based on their race.
	I mean.
	Based on their race.
	So even if you're white, that's really just not.
	What can you say that's actually harmful in an incorrect stereotype about a white person?
	Call someone a cracker stereotype.
	Oh, no, you're so dumb.
	That's not the best thing I've ever heard.
	Shut up, shut up.
	Don't use that word on stream.
	I'm not talking about a stereotype.
	I'm talking about like treating people differently because, strictly, because of their race.
	Saying slurs, like, I mean, like, that's, I mean, that's obviously, it can be racist.
	It cannot be racist.
	Like, but with towards a black person, yeah, like saying the N-word is racist.
	But I'm saying, saying the cracker to white, sorry, home.
	Sorry, sorry, fucking R-Slur.
	I'm sorry.
	I literally just.
	I didn't know that's like a bad word.
	I'm cutting you off right there.
	You got to stop talking.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	Aren't you a fucking streamer?
	How do you not know?
	No, I just started streaming.
	I just got off the show like a week ago.
	I got on YouTube as he did his own Twitch, by the way.
	We're on Twitch.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Don't worry about that.
	I didn't know that was.
	I didn't say that.
	When my mods went over the words, that wasn't one of them.
	That is true, Law.
	Okay, so here, definition of racism.
	I literally have just said it three times, but prejudice plus power.
	Is it prejudice plus harmful stereotypes plus power?
	Oh, that's a new one.
	Okay.
	That's literally what I said 20 seconds ago.
	Harmful stereotypes.
	The harm for if you can be black and have harmful stereotypes towards whites.
	So it can't just.
	You can't?
	Okay, like give me an example.
	Of a harmful stereotype?
	Yeah, against white people.
	That they're trying to oppress you.
	What?
	Yeah, but that's not harmful.
	Wait, how is that not harmful?
	Because that's just not true anymore.
	I mean, there's racist people, but like there's racist white people that still exist, but like you can't assume that about I don't understand.
	Do you think for how are white people hurt genuinely?
	Yeah, how hurts are you by this reverse racism?
	Exactly.
	When you said we're oppressed, so if you're not oppressed, then you're not, you can't be racist towards you.
	Racism isn't about being oppressed.
	It's about a girl.
	You're blowing my mind up.
	Dude, get her back in the back in the.
	It literally means that you are saying something rude to a person because of their race.
	It doesn't matter what the race is.
	If you say something to that, it's discrimination, not racism.
	It's discrimination and it's racism.
	Racism is discrimination of a certain race.
	Period, the end.
	It doesn't matter what race it is.
	But black people are mainly the ones that are skating.
	But here's the thing: white people can't be, other people can't be racist towards you guys for some time.
	You're pissing me off.
	I'm not talking anymore.
	It's okay.
	Thank God.
	It's fine.
	Quick question, though.
	Okay.
	Oh, boy.
	The girls are fighting.
	Hold on.
	Did we explore that?
	Did we let that play out?
	Okay, quick.
	Yes.
	Go ahead.
	No, we just want to go home.
	All right.
	So, here, look.
	I was being so fucking nice to you, too.
	Oh, God.
	Whoa.
	Why are you getting so personally offended?
	Yeah, because you have literally.
	Because you guys are super racist and she's white.
	No, because you're literally so fucking.
	I'm also a white person, but I can understand that there's nothing that someone can say to me to make me feel bad about my race.
	But let's all just say calm and like.
	Go off, Queen.
	You don't know what it's like to be a black person.
	I don't know what it's like to be a white person.
	Exactly.
	But here's the thing.
	He did this to me last time, too.
	He did this to me last time.
	Here's the thing.
	When I came, no matter what, as a black person, we are always the target for everything.
	We are the most important.
	What about those Asian people in San Francisco?
	How about that?
	When's the last time you got followed on in a supermarket?
	Because I thought you were going to steal something.
	But even, but even like, think about the Asians as well.
	That was the last time they had to worry about me stealing something.
	You're stealing everyone's hearts in the audience.
	Yeah, I know.
	Oh, my God.
	No, it's a real question.
	Wait, okay.
	Look, look, look.
	Here, really quick.
	So, just, is this the definition?
	Racism equals prejudice plus power.
	Is that your definition?
	I'm going with her.
	I'm going with Lucy.
	If I have to repeat it one more time, I'm going to have to.
	I'm going to have to.
	I'm going to ask the most harmful stereotypes.
	Harmful stereotypes.
	Okay.
	And she's so what she's saying is you can't actually conduct a harmful stereotype absent power.
	And since minorities don't have power, there's no harmful stereotype they can give towards whites.
	I see.
	I'll give my example here, then I'll move it on to the next one.
	I know.
	That's called being good faith.
	I actually listen to you.
	Yeah, you do.
	And that's why I really appreciate our conversation.
	Yeah, I know, but you don't ever know what you're doing.
	I really do.
	I really do try.
	I really do try.
	He tries.
	Okay, cool.
	I just need a freaking notepad while you're writing down everything he says.
	I can remember you got arrows.
	I'm going to start with you, L, then I'll ask you this exact same one.
	Okay.
	Barack Obama.
	Barack Obama, right?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Back when he was president.
	The White House is looking for a janitor.
	This is a hypothetical.
	White House is looking for a janitor.
	And Barack Obama refuses to hire a specific janitor because this janitor happens to be white.
	And Barack Obama holds, I'll just even go a step further, holds negative stereotypes against white people.
	Is that racism?
	Hmm.
	No.
	No.
	So hold on.
	I just met all three criteria of your own definition of the colour.
	But they're what harmful stereotype.
	Sorry.
	So I didn't specify, but I did say that he holds negative stereotypes against white people.
	Like they're, how about he thinks they're lazy?
	He thinks they're lazy.
	How about white people?
	He thinks white people are lazy.
	In the hypothetical, he thinks that, yes.
	How is that harming the janitor?
	Wait, hold on.
	Would it be racist to say that a white person to say that they think a minority group is lazy, like black or Mexican?
	Would that be racist?
	Isn't that what they always do at the time?
	Yeah, is it racist?
	Is it racist?
	Just answer the fucking question.
	Is it racist?
	He's just being lazy.
	That's his personality.
	But we're talking about race.
	God, bro, you guys are so fucking bad faith.
	So a white man thinks all black people are lazy, is that racist?
	Yes, but does he just think that the janitors?
	You guys know I've just checkmated you.
	This is why.
	Sure.
	Oh my god.
	Oh my god, you went.
	He literally refused to just be like good people.
	Yeah, but you're talking about he's being lazy.
	We're talking about like actual racism, racism.
	Yeah, like they think that they're violent.
	Why would that not be racist?
	Because being lazy is not the same thing as being as being like stereotyped as violent or as like a thief.
	Yes.
	Or a criminal.
	Or a criminal, yeah.
	Because there are a lot of white, there are some, I'm not going to say a lot of white people, but there are some white people that believe that black people are creating a lot of people.
	This is great obfuscation.
	So again, I've met your definition with this hypothetical Barack Obama.
	Black man?
	Yes?
	Agree?
	Being called lazy is not a harmful stereotype.
	Thank you.
	I was, if you don't agree with the stereotype, you tell me what's a negative stereotype.
	And in the hypothetical, I will insert that he believes that this negative stereotype against white people.
	No systemic abuse against white people, though, in general.
	We're talking about history here.
	No, no, no, no.
	Now you're now you're this is like uh you're you're shifting the goalposts.
	You just shifted the goalposts.
	No, you shifted the goalposts.
	No, you're talking about if Obama not hiring a white man because he's lazy and that's he's causing him race.
	So you don't think there's any negative stereotypes that pertain to white people?
	That is discrimination, but I wouldn't call it racism.
	Yeah.
	If you guys want to think I'm wrong, that's so funny.
	I'm not going to change my opinion.
	I'm not going to be able to do with your racism against white people, by the way.
	This is very racist of all of you.
	Crimea River.
	So hold on.
	Again.
	So in this hypothetical, right?
	I have a question.
	Are you going to keep asking me until I agree with you?
	Well, you guys are refusing to engage with the hypothetical, so yes.
	Because the hypothetical is not a good, it's not a logical, it's not a logical hypothetical.
	You're talking about somebody's laziness.
	That's not my personality.
	Tell me, well, okay, let's give you a stereotype.
	Let's give you a negative stereotype.
	Let's just say Obama, he hires a white man that has a criminal background, right?
	Because he's done something very violent.
	Okay, okay, never mind.
	Never mind.
	Let me find something better because I think.
	I've already given you the example.
	Yeah, but that's not a good example.
	I'm going to walk you through it then to make it really simple.
	Barack Obama, is he a black man?
	Yes or no?
	He's mixed, actually.
	He's not black, but okay.
	What the fuck, bro?
	He's mixed.
	Are you?
	Oh, he's. He's.
	Who's white?
	Wait, because I'm...
	Are you 100% black?
	100% black.
	I'm, uh, no.
	Oh, so are you black?
	My skin color is black.
	But you're not black?
	Okay.
	Will your kids be black?
	Or not black?
	No, no, I'm talking about Obama because I thought that somebody I had heard that he was half like Hawaiian and half black, but I'm getting my information.
	But I don't know much about Obama, so I can't really speak about him on his race.
	And if he says, is he black?
	Well, then, yes, if he's black, yes, he's black.
	What do you gain from proving that you can be racist towards white people?
	This is like the most toaster breath.
	Like, seriously, though, what do you gain from that?
	Okay, just let me walk it through.
	Let me walk it through.
	Okay, so we meet prong one.
	Barack Obama is a black man.
	I can't believe it.
	Barack Obama's black.
	Yes.
	I thought he was white.
	Okay, so systemic power.
	Is the president of the United States, does he have systemic power?
	Yes.
	Pretty much.
	Because the executive branch in which he is in charge of is a system, and the executive branch of the United States government has power.
	And he's the leader of the most powerful country in the world.
	Cool.
	We've just established Barack Obama has systemic power.
	Secondly, he has a prejudice.
	He refuses to hire somebody because he's white.
	Prejudice plus power equals racism.
	Okay, but she even you didn't include the harm.
	She said, what did you say, Lucy?
	You said prejudice and it turns into.
	You don't hire somebody based on their skin color.
	Isn't that harmful?
	Now they're losing a lot of people.
	Guys, you are making her very upset back there with your anti-white racism.
	I mean, she's been really dramatic, though.
	Hey, I think she's...
	I'm holding back.
	We should all be able to have a teacher.
	I'm holding back tears.
	Look, I'm holding back tears over how racist both of you are.
	It's actually racist.
	How can I be racist towards her?
	Because I didn't even say anything about the world.
	Earlier in the syphilis conversation, that wasn't dramatic.
	Hugs, kisses, love.
	I wasn't here.
	The second there's a disagreement, you've betrayed the sisterhood, right?
	I wasn't here for that.
	I went and ate cookies.
	You were fucking here for that.
	What are you talking about?
	Cookies, I came back when it was the end of it.
	You were hugging this one a second ago.
	That was about the only cookies.
	What I'm saying is that if she had a negating opinion, then the hugs and kisses go away.
	But to leave the room is created in 1970 by racism.
	I'll re-trigger it.
	I will re-trigger it.
	I'll play it again.
	Thank you, Graffito Tagged, for the TTS.
	I do appreciate it.
	Thank you, Graffito.
	W's in the chat for Graffito.
	The poor guy had his TTS interrupted.
	Graffiti Totagt donated $100.
	The idea that racism is defined as being prejudice plus institutional power was first created in 1970 by race hustle of Patricia Bidel Panther.
	Racism definitely existed before 1970.
	W didn't do it.
	Massive, massive W there from Graffito Tag, just BTFOing you, all of you.
	We have another one from Dave Vaughn.
	Don't worry.
	Thank you, Graffito.
	And then we have Dave Vaughan coming in here in just a moment.
	W's in the chat for Dave Vaughn.
	Thank you, man.
	Good to see you.
	Would it upset you if someone assumed you were a racist bigot because you are white?
	Racism is literally a prejudice based on skin color, whether by an individual or institution.
	I would understand why someone might assume that sort of thing because historically, white people have been the most racist towards other races.
	Would I go on an angry tangent because someone called me a racist?
	No, I would calmly explain that that's not the situation.
	Wait, question for you.
	Do you think like American whites are more racist than like Japanese people?
	I have these Japanese people, but I'm sure.
	You know what's really funny about the conversation?
	Ultimately, it's hilarious about it.
	What's so funny?
	It is funny.
	Is that we're being charitable to your definition and trying to explore your definition, trying to make arguments as refutations to what you define racism as, trying to literally stay inside your worldview as we argue, right?
	But let me just ask you to do that in reverse.
	Be charitable towards us.
	Racism is just, I don't like a person based on their skin color.
	Based on that definition, if you're being charitable to my worldview, can black people be racist?
	Hang on, Aon.
	Let me ask you the question again.
	No.
	Since we've been sitting here, we're charitable to your worldview to everything you had to say.
	Sure.
	Within the confines of your worldview, contending with only that, with your definition.
	Can you contend with ours?
	All racism is, is not liking somebody based on their skin color or treating them differently based on their skin color.
	That's what I think racism is.
	Okay.
	Using that definition, can white people be, or can black people be racist to white people?
	Can they or not?
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Thank you, Lucy though.
	No, L, still no?
	Look, I'm going to stand by my, I'm going to stand by my sense on no because at the end of the day, like, you guys had, not you guys, I'm so sorry.
	I'm saying you guys, which you're guy.
	Do you think like an Asian person can be like racist to a white person?
	Because like I face racism every day.
	I'm sure you do, which is like really, really unfortunate.
	No, you don't.
	Every single day, for real.
	Everyone's saying I eat dogs and cats.
	It's crazy.
	I was caught a bed wench once.
	I face sexism every day.
	Every day.
	Lucy Goosey, can you read this?
	Check out the Barbary slave trade.
	Transatlantic slave trade is always talked about not Africans enslaving Africans.
	Plus, 8% of the world is white.
	The global minority, Google it.
	Black, brown, and yellow are the majority, always the victim, never their fault.
	Yo, John, thank you for the soup chat.
	I do appreciate it.
	That is a good point.
	Whites were definitely victims of slavery.
	Wait, why are you rolling your eyes?
	Whoa.
	Because I'm just so tired of having ass.
	Wow, you're rolling your eyes at white slavery?
	Imagine if you did that.
	Oh, that's right.
	I mean, weren't you guys called indentured slaves to your own people in Britain?
	Right now, for instance.
	I already agreed with you.
	I said yes.
	And from your worldview, I can understand why you might think that.
	Can you stop finger banging her over there, please?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Guys, calm down.
	You'll have to wait till after the podcast.
	Yeah, calm down.
	Yeah.
	Right now, you would agree in some South African territories, blacks have institutional power and are running white farmers off their land.
	Yeah?
	That's a good thing.
	Okay, then.
	What?
	That's wrongful race.
	Chair one.
	So then you're just saying racism is good?
	What kind of trash place did your hippy-dippy whitewashed love come from?
	I know Chair 5 knows coom-obiliers with more sense.
	Feel-hurt racism is universal.
	Goonerbilly.
	I like Goonerbilly.
	I really appreciate it.
	You had something for her.
	Yeah, I was just wondering, is that institutional power?
	Rephrase your question again.
	These black governments that are running white farmers off their land.
	Was that institutional power?
	I mean, yeah.
	So were they racist?
	I mean, no, I mean, like, you could, like, it's from a historical.
	Was that harmful to do to a white farmer?
	Okay, but was it harmful for your ancestors to take my ancestors from their own motherland?
	That wasn't harmful.
	That's not harmful.
	Well, wait, wait.
	That's not harmful that, like.
	Can you, hang on?
	Can you, first of all, can you demonstrate any of my ancestors did that?
	I don't know your ancestors.
	Then why did you just say my ancestors did?
	I'm just your aunt.
	You are, aren't you white?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Aren't you from America?
	Well, no.
	Originally, all Americans have Western or Eastern European roots.
	Okay, but where did your family come from?
	Ireland and England.
	Okay, and they came over here, right?
	Okay.
	Why does that mean they had a hand in the slave trade?
	I would recommend doing a little DNA test to see if you had any slave, you know.
	Oh, no, you're not.
	You're part white, though.
	I think you should do DNA as well.
	Hang on.
	You got it.
	Hang on.
	I just want you to help me out.
	I actually do.
	Hang on.
	Hang on a second, Brian.
	Hang on.
	I just want to ask you this.
	Even if it was true, right, that the people group I come from was totally responsible for African slavery, 100%.
	What the fuck does it have to do with my ancestry being responsible for it?
	Well, one is it's.
	Am I responsible for the nation?
	But you are responsible for changing the way how racism is viewed.
	You have the power to sit here and to advocate for, you know, us as black people.
	So do you?
	Well, we do that.
	We're trying.
	We're trying every day.
	Like, every day we're trying.
	You don't understand.
	Yeah, but what if I don't believe?
	What if what's going on here is I don't understand the logical consistency of saying racism is power plus prejudice.
	And then I give you a nation where it's blacks.
	That wasn't the definition that we gave.
	That was the definition that Brian gave.
	You gave it an additional qualifier, and the qualifier was stereotypes and harm.
	Okay, I'm going to add this qualifier in.
	I gave you a nation which white farmers being run off their land.
	The institutional powers with blacks.
	It's clearly harmful, clearly harmful to the whites to get run off their farms and clearly stereotypical that they need to be.
	I mean, are they?
	This fits every single criteria you both agreed to.
	But are they calling them porch monkeys?
	No, they call them worse than they call them.
	They're calling worse slurs.
	And they fucking kill them.
	Are they making their mothers and their children?
	They kill them.
	Get together and they killed the telling.
	And my answers were to be aware of.
	Give me anything worse than death.
	Give me anything.
	My ancestors were kills us as well.
	Anything worse than death?
	My ancestors were killed as well.
	Can you give me anything worse?
	My ancestors had to literally work coming from the country.
	I'm not talking about my ancestors.
	I'm talking about what's happening right now.
	You could have been an advocate back in the time when.
	Are you going to ever answer my question?
	What was your question?
	Okay, so real quick, is there anything worse than death?
	Death is.
	There's nothing worse than death.
	I mean, actually, no, there is.
	Done, done, done.
	It's the afterlife.
	Yeah, great.
	Okay, so there's nothing worse than death.
	No, there is.
	These people are being killed right now.
	They're being killed by black governments.
	They're getting run off their properties by black governments.
	Hang on.
	And the black governments are stereotyping them as being evil because they're white.
	Okay, and what happened?
	Are those people in the world?
	And what about the police taking black men just conceiving?
	Just conceiving gang and putting guns into our community.
	Talking about two different things.
	Yo, Chad, is she trolling, bro?
	I'm not even trolling.
	I'm just coming from a place of like her.
	I'm going to engage.
	This is the case.
	Where is the nation?
	Do you know there are sundown towns?
	Do you know that there are still sundown towns?
	Do you know what the United States is and do you know what the country of Africa is?
	They're two different countries, right?
	Yeah, and you got you.
	Hang on, stop, stop.
	I just want to make sure.
	Is the United States a different country than Africa?
	Of course, this is.
	Well, not really.
	They're different continents.
	But anyway, are they different continents?
	North America and Africa?
	Are they different continents?
	They are, but that's still not in the gateway.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	One of the seven continents.
	Wait, Candy.
	Can we ask her what?
	Yeah, Africa, America, Canada.
	Wait, keep it.
	Yeah.
	Canada.
	Canada is a country.
	America is a continent.
	Yeah, I know.
	Keep going.
	Africa is a continent.
	Asia is a continent.
	Antarctica is a continent.
	Yep.
	No, Alaska is a state.
	There's two more.
	Russia is a continent.
	Yeah, keep going.
	And I said Asia.
	There's one more.
	Yep, last one.
	Australia.
	I don't know, Andrew.
	If she can't name, if she thinks Canada.
	No, no, Russia.
	Russia.
	She said Canada and Russia.
	Russia.
	Russia is a continent.
	I don't know if she has the requisite geographic understanding.
	I don't know if it's even worse.
	So Canada is not a continent and Russia is not a continent.
	Can you name three countries?
	Three countries?
	Yeah.
	Okay, let's see.
	There is three countries.
	I'm going to name the countries in Africa, actually.
	Yes.
	Cameroon.
	Yep.
	Nigeria.
	Whoa.
	Yes, that's a country.
	And let me see.
	Cape Cod.
	That is in New England, but good job.
	You did.
	Oh, Cape.
	Cape Cod is not in.
	No.
	Well, then you're all.
	Cape.
	There's no Cape Cod in Africa.
	Well, Canta.
	No.
	Is it Cape Town?
	Cape Town.
	Cape Town.
	That's what I was trying to say.
	Cape Town.
	Cape Town.
	That's a city in South Africa.
	60% of all violent crimes are committed by a race that makes up 13% of the population.
	But yes, that population is the one not to be afraid of.
	The others are the scary ones.
	The views expressed by the TTSs do not necessarily reflect the views of the there's another word that reflects the views of the whatever channel.
	Big Sass Energy, though.
	I do appreciate your TTS.
	Thank you very much.
	Binks Knight donated $100.
	How do these echo chamber hoes feel about the Arab slave trade that persists even today?
	Open air slave markets in Libya forced to mine cobalt for pinkies, Tesla, and iPhone.
	Shaking my head, brothers.
	W. Binks in the chat.
	I think we're just moving on because.
	Yeah.
	I mean, where do you go from there?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Wait, question.
	Do you think, like, love you, Binks Knight?
	Oh, dude.
	I know Binks Knight.
	Oh, my God.
	Final question on this.
	What about hate crimes?
	Like, can somebody who attacks a white person because they're white, can they be charged with a hate crime or not?
	Yeah.
	Okay, Mario.
	Even if they're black.
	Yeah.
	I mean, that's a hate crime.
	You're literally hating on somebody based on them.
	Yeah, hating on them based on what?
	Mom, okay, well.
	Their race.
	No, you can hate somebody.
	I know.
	You can hate them.
	You can hate them.
	It's a hate crime based on the fact that moving things don't like them.
	Yo, Naomi and Riley.
	You guys said, so the question is, wrong for a man to refuse to date a woman because she is overweight.
	You guys both said yes.
	What's that about?
	What was the answer?
	What is the question?
	Overweight people?
	The one I just read?
	I think, like...
	Wait, what?
	You're the one who's like.
	Yeah, she looked at me and I was like, so confused.
	I'm like, why do you have the fucking weird ears on now?
	What the fuck, Naomi?
	Naomi and Riley.
	Why, like, don't you have any ears?
	Guys.
	I'm trying to get through this.
	I used to be overweight, actually.
	And I still consider it am overweight.
	So, yeah.
	Yeah, so why?
	I just think it's wrong.
	It's wrong.
	So a guy needs to fuck you.
	Like, if he refuses to have sex with you.
	So if a guy refuses to have sex with you, it's wrong because of the question.
	Excuse you?
	Okay, well, I used to be overweight.
	And like, I'm not saying like, it's wrong.
	You know what?
	I see that.
	No, I did not.
	I did not think I said that out loud.
	Sorry, I see it.
	That was Brian.
	You didn't say that.
	No, no, he meant something totally different.
	Anyways, anyways.
	No, I was just, yeah, I was just.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Can she speak?
	Yeah, yeah, my bad.
	Oh, can she?
	My bad.
	Are you sure?
	Is that okay?
	Yeah.
	You just interrupted her.
	Yeah, so rude.
	Yeah, very rude.
	Okay, well, I don't know.
	Like, you don't have to, like, fuck the girl, but like, still.
	What do I got to do?
	Like, it cannot be like, you can't be like, oh, because you're fat, like, I don't want to date you.
	Like, she can lose weight.
	It's something she can change.
	Like, why wouldn't she change it and then you date her?
	Why does she have to like the book?
	What the best?
	Wait, I have a question.
	When you are looking for a woman, do you look for her body first or her personality?
	Yes.
	Her body first?
	Yeah.
	What's wrong with that?
	Well, not generation.
	I shouldn't say that.
	That's what's going on.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Hang on.
	I mean, you think you made a good point here, but just think about it for two seconds.
	Okay.
	When you see a hot guy, do you notice that he's hot first or do you notice his personality first?
	I actually dated people who are overweight.
	I'm not asking you who you dated.
	Here's my question.
	If you see a good-looking guy, like here, a good example.
	Earlier, who was the picture of that 18-year-old who married the like Aaron Taylor?
	Aaron Taylor.
	When those pictures came up, you were like, Yeah, he's good-looking.
	No, I did not.
	I did not say that.
	You can roll back the clip and see my face look disgusted because I didn't like her.
	Okay.
	Let's assume it was some guy who's not him, but you did find attractive.
	Okay.
	You have no way in a picture to determine.
	Like, for instance, if I showed you pictures of men, could you tell me that man's attractive, that man isn't?
	Sure.
	Okay.
	If that is the case, how can you possibly determine that without knowing their personality?
	I don't know.
	You can't.
	Wait, would you date a morbidly obese guy?
	I literally have.
	No, but would you?
	Yes.
	I have.
	You've dated a morbidly obese guy.
	Yes.
	Morbidly obese.
	Let's just say I dated someone who was 6'5 and over.
	Wait, let's just say.
	How much did he weigh?
	I don't.
	Just say he's overweight.
	How overweight?
	How overweight?
	Y'all like women?
	Like, I just.
	Never mind.
	Bro, it's crazy, though, because.
	The point is, is that if you can see a picture of a guy and you can see he's attractive, right?
	Then you can't, then it's the same potential men have.
	Everyone that knows me knows that I don't go for the looks.
	I'm not saying that that might be what you end up with.
	The point is, is that the first thing people notice about another person is if they're attractive or not, if they're looking at dating.
	If a person is not attractive to you, why would you date them?
	Wait, how about also?
	How about this?
	Would you date a guy with a small pee-pee?
	I have.
	I don't care if you have.
	I have, so yes.
	Yeah, but that doesn't.
	She's answering your question.
	I'm answering your question with I have, meaning yes.
	Okay, but like going forward, if the guy had a micro penis, would you date?
	Like, would that you just keep dating him?
	Maybe you would.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so you don't care about anything when it comes to looks whatsoever?
	No, I care about personality.
	You don't care?
	I care about the human.
	I care about how he is as a person.
	But so looks are not a factor whatsoever?
	To a certain extent, I guess.
	What do you mean to a certain extent?
	I don't know.
	Because what I find attractive isn't what other people are going to find attractive.
	I mean, in the case with everybody.
	Would you date a guy who's a dwarf?
	Four foot, four feet.
	I have, Brian.
	Wait, why not?
	No, really.
	Shorter than me.
	I'm five.
	I'm five one.
	You really think I'm going to.
	Hold on.
	You really think?
	You really think I'm going to clear?
	Oh, you really think I want to like that?
	I can make some comments.
	Wait, so just to be clear, men can't change their height.
	Not wrong.
	Is it wrong for you to refuse to date a dwarf?
	Is it wrong?
	I guess.
	You can put it that way.
	It's wrong for me to die.
	Like, suppose it's consistent.
	You fucking immoral.
	You immoral, rotten person.
	Let me ask you guys this question.
	None of the little people will ever be able to do that.
	Let's just wrap it up to ask them questions.
	I just want to add more than one question.
	I know you.
	I know.
	Are you guys single?
	Are you guys.
	He's married.
	You're married.
	And I have been for well over a decade.
	All right.
	Look, I just don't get y'all.
	Y'all women have like longer time.
	Now, hang on.
	Now, I know that a decade is a lot longer than a year and a half with your fiance.
	I mean, not fiancé.
	I mean, I mean, married, whatever.
	Fake fiancé.
	But, you know.
	Two years, five months.
	Yeah, I know.
	Two years, five months.
	Ring is coming soon.
	But, you know, you know, yes, I've been married for most of my adult life, yes.
	Okay, good.
	Okay.
	I'm just confused on this.
	It's just women have laundry lists of things that they care for in a man when it comes to personality and when it comes to looks.
	I don't see how it's wrong for a man to refuse to date somebody.
	Like, you guys won't date a guy because of his height, which you guys both admitted.
	You have a high preference.
	I'm just not dating someone that's shorter than me.
	Cool, and I'm not dating a woman who's pretty rare for someone to be a man to be shorter than Lisa.
	So?
	What?
	Not in most of the world.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Are men the primary victims of war?
	To which, Naomi, you said no.
	I think you're the only one who said no on the.
	Wait, but I only said no because I didn't really understand the question.
	Like, you mean like war, like really fighting out?
	Yeah, like people killing each other.
	Then yes, then yes.
	Okay.
	We have a chat here from Dragon's Talon.
	Or did we read this one?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	No.
	We haven't read that.
	I read it on the screen.
	Okay, go ahead, read it for us, Elle.
	You get to read it.
	Black lady, your African ancestors, blacks, racists against African Americans, since they were the ones who originally sold your ancestors to the ships that brought them to the other countries.
	Whoa.
	Okay.
	That was great.
	Thank you for.
	Oh, of course.
	Dragon's Talon.
	Thank you for the super chat, man.
	I appreciate it.
	All right, moving off of the primary victims of war, just a few more.
	I'm not going to do all of them just for the sake of time.
	Let's just do the feminist stuff and then we'll wrap it there.
	The question is: do women have equal rights to men in the United States?
	To which Lucy, you put both, which I guess would indicate a maybe or a lot of those, it's case by case.
	Mizzy, you said yes, they do.
	Ruby, you said yes, they do.
	Mandy, Mandy, coming back.
	You said no, women do not have equal rights to men in the United States.
	McKenna, you said yes, they do have equal rights.
	Elle, you said no, they do not have equal rights.
	Naomi, you said no.
	And then Riley, you said no.
	So those of you who said no, or maybe I guess, how so?
	I mean, for example, the whole abortion thing.
	Like, literally, like, you guys.
	No, please don't bring this up.
	Okay, we can't.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay, but like, okay, whatever.
	But, like, you know, sure, that's unfair.
	Anything besides the abortion thing?
	Yeah, just like we can't do certain things that men can do, and it causes us to, like, you know, not be able to do some things.
	And, you know, and they, like.
	I don't know, but it's just things that we say, you know, are in tune with us.
	Like, I hate to kill you.
	So you can feel what I'm feeling, you know?
	Feeling.
	She doesn't know.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	You don't know, but I'm trying to explain it, okay?
	So, oh, shit.
	Okay, anybody?
	What can a man do that, that you can't apparently put on roof shingles.
	I can't be a oil.
	What do you say?
	A rig oiler.
	Yeah, rig oiler.
	I'm certain.
	You can't be a president.
	All right, so anybody else?
	Okay, women don't have equal rights.
	Give me how?
	Which one?
	I don't even feel like fighting her anymore.
	Fight Lucy.
	I'm wrapped.
	I know Andrew's going to be like, here's my point.
	And I'm going to be like, and it's right.
	And for the sake of time, yes, he is.
	And you're going to go.
	Yeah.
	You are.
	Wait, are you guys going to do the debate tomorrow?
	Are we?
	Yes.
	You haven't given me topics yet.
	Okay, yes, we'll do it.
	You can pick the topics.
	You pick the topics.
	And if you don't want to, I'll pick them.
	It doesn't matter.
	What if we each pick two topics?
	Sure.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Wait, how long do I have to be here for?
	Because I'm not doing another 10-hour session.
	It's like maybe three hours.
	Andrew would probably die if he had to talk to me for 10 hours.
	Yeah.
	I feel bad.
	I don't want to kill him.
	So if you want, you could save.
	Do you want to give like your quick position on this or save it for tomorrow?
	Okay.
	Who else?
	I guess I'll go.
	I think the only reason I put that women don't have equal rights is because we're just physically unable to do certain things, and that's not equal technically.
	So, in my brain, technically, we're not equal.
	No, but the question is: do women have equal rights, which would indicate like some sort of like state-down government at this point in time.
	I think we do.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Anybody else?
	Any takers?
	Any takers?
	Okay, so our position is going to be remain unchanged.
	Women do have equal rights to men unless you can present a compelling argument to the contrary.
	Going once.
	Going twice.
	And also on abortion.
	Men can't have them either.
	Boom.
	Roasted.
	You can have a vasectomy.
	Roast.
	That is coming up, please.
	Oh, my God, please.
	That's true.
	And you can have a hysterectomy.
	That's also true.
	Roasting.
	Life is missy.
	I'm busy.
	Thank you.
	That's Mandy.
	Mandy Moore over there.
	Mandy Smore.
	I'm miserable.
	Sorry.
	Mandy.
	Okay.
	Fish tank chick.
	Listen, I'm hungry.
	We're almost done.
	We are almost done.
	This is easy.
	This is easy.
	I have a two-hour drive.
	I have a two-hour drive.
	Pretend Barbie, you should not comment on that.
	I live in fucking Michigan.
	Tonight?
	Yeah, she's driving.
	Michigan.
	I live in the Bay Area.
	Michigan.
	You're driving today.
	I'll retrieve it.
	I'll retrieve it.
	I'm going to drive home right now.
	You guys are just talking.
	I've just got to wait to play it again.
	I'm sorry.
	Just another 30 seconds lost.
	Good job, guys.
	Great job.
	I'll just fucking replay that shit.
	Dozens back there.
	He's like, damn, what the fuck?
	Jakey donated $100.
	Pretend Bobby should not comment on racism in South Africa.
	If Cape Town is now a country, then I now might as well identify as black.
	Jesus, hashtag leckodom.
	All right, by the way, guys, we're going to do the roast session.
	If you want to get a roast in, roast is T.
	It's a $20 TTS if you guys want to get it in, $20 TTS, starting here in just a sec.
	So you really don't think that black people in Africa can be racist?
	Really?
	I believe I believe that they have the institutional power.
	Sure.
	I believe.
	I'll disagree with you on this one.
	Sure.
	Think of it.
	This is such a weird position, doesn't mean that.
	Spread my wings and fire.
	All right, good talk.
	Are women oppressed in the United States?
	Lucy is a maybe.
	Mizzy is a no.
	Ruby is a no.
	Mandy is a yes.
	I said yes?
	McKenna.
	Check the wrong box.
	No.
	L is also yes.
	Yes, women are oppressed.
	Naomi says no.
	Women are not oppressed.
	Rayleigh Riley, my bad.
	My bad.
	She says no.
	Women are.
	Wait, no.
	Women are.
	No, women are.
	Wait.
	Are women oppressed in the USA?
	I don't know, bruv.
	How are women oppressed?
	Who thinks here, show of hands.
	Who thinks women are oppressed?
	Okay, how are we?
	I don't want to argue.
	Just do it.
	I'm not going to argue.
	It's the final.
	This is the final thing.
	I just want to get roasted.
	I just want someone to get it.
	Oh, you're going to get it.
	I'm going to get roasted.
	Actually, shit, I should have made it to the higher threshold.
	I just want to get roasted.
	There's some roasting that's going to happen.
	I'm so excited.
	Me.
	$20 TTS bowl.
	Just kidding.
	Wait, I said yes.
	She's going to be a little bit more.
	I don't know, Mandy.
	I don't know what was going through your head.
	You read the thing, so you can tell me.
	What thing?
	I will start crying again, Brian.
	Oh, no.
	That is.
	I'm so bad.
	She's like, no, we're not.
	All right, guys.
	TTS roast session is set to $20 if you want to get it in.
	Roast away.
	Roast away.
	While the girls are doing that, every single one of you.
	Who's willing to take off their makeup?
	I will.
	Will you do it?
	Why would you point at me?
	Why would you point at me?
	Also, you.
	Here.
	Who's going to take their.
	Yes, take it off.
	No, this is expensive.
	I will give you a $2.
	How expensive is it?
	I already cry off.
	We should pay more if we do.
	I'll give you $2.
	Only her.
	She's the only one.
	Yeah, wear more.
	$2 in makeup.
	Give me a break.
	No, this is expensive.
	What's expensive?
	Everything.
	My face would be $200.
	Charlotte Tilbury.
	Your makeup tonight, it was $200.
	No, it was way more than that.
	And you way overfucking paid.
	She overpaid.
	She overpaid for the makeup.
	Fuck.
	$200 in makeup.
	People want you to take the ears off.
	I can't take myself off.
	Me, my ears are.
	I honestly kind of came off.
	I'm sleeping on this fucking podcast.
	I'm like, what is that I'm doing?
	I don't have a mirror.
	I don't even know what she's doing.
	This is not going to get a little bit.
	I'm going to have a seven.
	I want to send M1.
	Now you get to say, take it off.
	Why are you singling me out?
	Take it off.
	Do I have to take my lashes off?
	Yes.
	Take it off.
	Why are you going to take it off?
	No, don't do it, McKenna.
	Don't do it.
	Do it.
	It's going to take like five minutes.
	Do it, babe.
	Okay, take off five.
	Do it.
	They're all there.
	I'll replace them.
	Don't worry.
	All five of them.
	Don't worry about it.
	It's no cost to you, I promise.
	McKenna, do it.
	No excuses.
	Play like a champion.
	Wait, I'm going to say mouth.
	Did you take one?
	I took my lashes off.
	You're going to do the makeup.
	Come on, Lucy Goosey.
	Am I going to get paid more?
	No.
	Lucy Goosey, take that shit off.
	I'm getting paid too.
	Why?
	Okay, I feel like everyone's doing what I want.
	Yeah, but I have a lot of fucking eyeliner.
	Shit.
	Leave it open.
	Take it off.
	Wait till you see the list.
	Take it off.
	Hey, what?
	Hey, you're not.
	Because this makeup is too cute, and I'm a Barbie dog.
	So I'm a candy.
	I can't do any of that.
	Oh, can I have the $2 bill first and then afterwards?
	No, only afterwards.
	Only afterwards.
	Okay.
	No, give me the pack.
	I love this.
	Yeah, give her the passage.
	No, don't give her the pack.
	No, McKenna, don't give it.
	No, my lashes.
	No, no, no.
	Not the throwing of the makeup wipes, Brian.
	No.
	I can't.
	She's saying it all.
	All right.
	We're going to let the roast.
	You already look insanely different.
	You look so young.
	Wow.
	You look like, like.
	That's cool.
	Good times.
	You just look at it.
	So do you.
	What?
	Crazy difference.
	In a good way.
	Big baby.
	Yeah, sure.
	Take the lashes off.
	In what kind of way?
	Hey, get.
	Yeah.
	There you go.
	Yeah, I paid $85 for these lashes.
	I can't take it all off.
	Once it's all off.
	I need like a mirror.
	You look beautiful.
	You do.
	So do you.
	You all are so beautiful.
	I love it.
	And then, who's it?
	Whoa, you're wearing a fucking wig?
	Take that shit off, bro.
	Hey, off it.
	I missed it.
	Off it goes.
	I knew.
	I knew.
	You come from the scalp.
	You like maybe.
	I can't tell but like.
	Andy, take it.
	I said take the wig off.
	Can you take it?
	I missed it.
	I just said it.
	Off it goes.
	Off it goes.
	Can I snatch it off?
	Snatch it.
	Keep it?
	Wait, can we do it together?
	One.
	One.
	Two.
	Hang on, Aeon.
	Aeon, ready?
	Get down to it.
	You can clip it.
	You can literally clip earlier.
	Clip early or what?
	Yeah.
	You want a bobby pin?
	I took it for a moment and then I was like, it was funny.
	And then you guys saw and then I got like embarrassed.
	That's like, I have bobby pins.
	I'm going to take it off.
	You want to clip some bobby pin?
	Is it all off?
	I will say, I don't normally do my eyeliner and lashes.
	$85 for these.
	I can't tell you what you say.
	$85 for lashes.
	They're expensive.
	They're lash extensions.
	Alright, guys, I'm going to let the chats come in.
	But before we do, can you guys hold up to the camera, starting on this side, hold up the makeup wipes, hold it up to the camera?
	Hold up your makeup wipes to the camera.
	There's also two other ones on the table.
	Hold it up.
	She said, hold it up.
	Hold it up.
	Oh, there's the damage, fellas.
	There's the damage.
	Okay.
	And then over here, we have quite a bit.
	Quite a bit.
	Quite a bit.
	Do you want to look like crazy different?
	You look so good.
	You're still aware.
	Hey, you didn't take it.
	They didn't take it all off.
	Come on.
	You have like really bad makeup wipes.
	Those are the best makeup.
	Nah, these are yours.
	They didn't get any pores.
	It's just the eyeliner of girls.
	It's gorgeous.
	Oh, my God.
	Hold it up.
	Hold the makeup wipes off.
	I'm trying so hard to scrub these brows off.
	I don't have that much, I feel like.
	Is there natural skin?
	Most of the time, the girls don't do it.
	Oh, really?
	You could have gotten away with it, too, if it wasn't.
	Oh, wait, I had a re-trigger.
	Saying you can't be racist to a certain group is literally racist.
	It is basically.
	It opens up the floodgates to attack that group and discriminate on them because of their ace-dot Marxism, changing definition.
	You're so pretty.
	Right, the Jesus.
	Yo, thank you.
	Guess 6 really tried to speak with authority about racism, but couldn't even name three countries in our own continent.
	They looked you guys.
	They got me.
	You don't got me on that one.
	I was blanking out W on that one.
	Chris donated $20.
	Thank you, Chris.
	Brian, Aldi Marinara.
	This is the notoriously known thing.
	Get some of those on the show and watch them struggle.
	Source worked at store.
	Yeah, but that defeats the purpose, right?
	Daniel Nosseri donated $20.
	The sound of the plop that my morning turd made hitting the water in my oilet bowl was smarter than a bunch of people.
	Thank you, Daniel.
	That was a good one.
	Thank you, man.
	Dariel Underscore Frank Castle 512 donated $20.
	Guest seven and eight are perfect example that their father figures failed them.
	18 years old with multiple bodies.
	You should so fucking ashamed instead of laughing and giggling on here looking stupid.
	Pierre de Lecto donated $20.
	All right.
	Andrew, ask these women the breakfast.
	All right, this one's to you.
	Very simple question.
	How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
	Fine.
	Okay.
	How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
	I never eat breakfast.
	How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
	I didn't eat breakfast.
	How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
	Absolute shit.
	Breakfast is my favorite.
	How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
	I didn't eat breakfast.
	Right here into the mic.
	My breakfast was like the cookie that I ate like a couple hours ago.
	She said you didn't eat breakfast, right?
	I would feel not good.
	I love breakfast.
	How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
	Low of energy.
	I didn't eat breakfast.
	You didn't eat breakfast.
	Raise your hand if you said you didn't eat breakfast.
	Wait, do you have that face tattoo visible when no, it wasn't?
	Let me see.
	Let me see.
	Did you.
	Huh?
	What did you do?
	He's like so confused.
	These are some secrets.
	Did you...
	Is it a tree?
	No.
	No.
	Wait, I need to see it and I'll know.
	This is a tattoo I got.
	Oh, okay.
	I got this tattoo like.
	You murdered somebody?
	No!
	It's just like a drunk dumb tattoo.
	It's not a teardrum, you guys.
	It's Japanese.
	For what?
	It's crazy in Japanese.
	No, crazy.
	It's Japanese for crazy.
	Yeah.
	Crazy.
	Crazy in love.
	Yeah.
	Laby Amonga donated $20.
	For the entire 20th century, the dictionary definition of racism was the belief in the genetic superiority of one race over another.
	Thus, any member of any race can be racist.
	Lucy has great hair.
	Thank you.
	W Brian, W. Andrew.
	As someone with family from South Africa, it's pretty disheartening to see a privileged girl in America refuse to call the murder of my uncle by government-sponsored thugs racist.
	Yeah, but you have to understand that stuff happened to her aunt.
	Daniel Nosseri donated $20.
	One couldn't imagine a better potential destiny future ex-wife than Chair One.
	Seeing as she is vegan and hates the taste of meat, she must be sure to wash the taste of sausage out of her mouth after.
	Thank you.
	Binks Knight donated $20.
	Mizzy cooked all of you other hoes.
	You wouldn't last a day on Fishtang.
	Meanwhile, she went toe-to-toe with the Frank Hassel.
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	JJ, thank you.
	Circumflex.
	Always, props to Big Druski, but extra props to Brian for opening his platform to Andrew and the Crucible.
	To the women, wake up and realize time waits for no one.
	Listen and take heed.
	Godspeed.
	Kitten Bear donated $20.
	C1, tarted.
	C2, maybe.
	C3, your friend is evil.
	C4, based.
	C5, evil and tarted.
	Stop trying to pimp your friend out on a View Witch.
	C6, Room Tempiq.
	C7, laughed at C6.
	So based.
	C8, did you even talk?
	Mr. Basteman donated $20.
	Andrew, any advice to avoid getting black built from listening to these imbeciles?
	You're a man.
	Simple, you're a man.
	Devon Jackson donated $20.
	I went back and just heard butthole girl trying to force her friend to show her butthole too.
	You're the person that doesn't be second.
	Hold on, let me get the rest coming through.
	Booty banana, man.
	Cheek and cheeks donated just tuned in from Columbia.
	Thank you.
	Let me tell you, just watching these last few minutes, fellas, women here will appreciate with more than me's entitled Low IQ Slags.
	Proud teacher to Andrew in debates.
	I haven't heard slags in a while.
	Racist, homophobe virgin donated $20.
	Middle-aged virgin loses his temper on 20-year-old girls and reveals his homophobic nature.
	Only closeted cucks care this much about trans cocks.
	Biggest red flags for girls.
	Short-tempered, toxic, immature.
	Whoa.
	The girls probably.
	I don't know if the girls agree with that one, but yeah, I'd fail to see how anything said tonight is homophobic in any capacity.
	Or even transphobic for that matter.
	You know, I wish it was.
	Vector donated $20.
	Only fans, a platform that capitalizes on the fact that the men and women who subscribe to the content creators forget that sex dolls exist.
	Yo, thank you, man, for the message.
	Dariel underscore Frank Castle 512 donated $20.
	Chair 6 is a troll.
	She couldn't comprehend the hypothetical of the mask when every night she gets home and takes off that thick mask of makeup and looks completely different.
	Look up her TikTok.
	Don't look me up on TikTok.
	Yo, Chaley, thank you for the message, man.
	Do appreciate it.
	Doesn't matter who I am, donated $25.
	Nine hours impressive.
	Greetings from California, EU, Blue State.
	Brian, why do you like to put yourself in a situation where you're around a bunch of morons who make you lose brain cells?
	Not Andrew.
	Vector donated $20.
	Chair 6.
	Thank you, Victor.
	If you ever had children and moved into the woods, you might see the elf in chair 3.
	I can't assume she's a wood elf because it's offensive to assume what kind of elf she identifies as.
	That's a good point.
	She could be.
	What do you bring to the table?
	What happens if your man wants a girl with natural hair?
	Baby, this is natural.
	Don't play it.
	It is so natural.
	It is so natural.
	She curled.
	She just whirled it.
	All she did was straighten it all.
	It's so natural.
	I'll play it again.
	I'll play it again.
	You can't even hold it together.
	No, it's natural.
	Master Malvoliant donated naturally fake.
	What a show.
	The Utok slipped kitten princess, the vampire girl, must be some BDSM chick.
	Where TF did you find the elf with a wig?
	For underscore the underscore patriarchy donated $20.
	Cheat it's sad when syphilis brain still allows for more common sense than feminine.
	Maybe that's why she has more.
	Oh.
	Hey, Carol.
	De'Ron Jackson donated $20.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yay, makeup was doing a lot of heavy lifting today.
	It was doing a lot of heavy lifting.
	I spent like two hours on my makeup, okay?
	I think I look the same.
	Otis Stretwood donated $20.
	Nigeria and Ethiopia 99.98 and 99.93 black population in charge of everything.
	Does racism exist here?
	Against who?
	Wow, crucible crew.
	I ain't answering that.
	No, okay.
	Wait, really quick.
	Isn't there a country in Africa where if you're like albino, they'll target you?
	That's colorism.
	But okay.
	All right, okay, whatever.
	I'm not gonna drive.
	It's wiggism.
	Damn, baby, you keep talking about my hair.
	Well, wait, what do you mean, your hair?
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Hold on.
	I do want to stop on this for a sec.
	Bro, you've got a fucking TikTok where you wear fucking wigs.
	Yes, I do.
	Cut the fucking bullshit.
	I do wear wigs.
	No, that's not a wig, though.
	But it's not.
	Look at the back.
	She has a little bit.
	She got a little bit of a break.
	You are out of your fucking mind.
	Look, you can see her natural curl right there.
	Look at that.
	I know what natural hair looks like.
	Okay, I have friends growing up where I. 200 bucks, 200 bucks right now.
	I will bet you 200 bucks that this is her real hair.
	Done.
	Girl, pull your roots right now.
	Yeah, no.
	I just know.
	Cough up.
	I don't have.
	What the fuck, what?
	Because I know I want the wig.
	Will you split the money?
	I'm not.
	No, because first and foremost.
	First and foremost.
	You want 100 bucks?
	First and foremost.
	First and foremost, it's my hair.
	And regardless of the situation, even if it's fake or not, that's not your decision whether it is not your decision.
	How much?
	It is not your decision, nor your, like, I guess your, how do I say this?
	It's not like your decision whether or not I'm going to wear wigs or not, because it's still my hair.
	Regardless.
	Regardless, my wigs.
	You guys go to twitch.tv.
	My wigs cost up to $200.
	I know for sure that you have to all be your hair.
	It's not possible.
	So you don't think black women can't grow her hair?
	That's not what I said.
	Get us to $98,000.
	Did I say anything like that?
	70 more.
	No.
	So here's the thing.
	I just want to make sure that I get this right.
	That I owe her $200 because that's all your hair, right?
	All of it.
	None of it's a wig, right?
	You owe her $200.
	So if we pull up right now, your TikTok, we're going to not see clearly 100% that that is impossible to be all your hair.
	It's styled.
	My hair is styled right now.
	That's what I was trying to say.
	Is there hair, which is there, which is not my hair straightening her face?
	Does that make it fake?
	That's not a fairy.
	I do have extensions.
	She has extensions.
	But it's not a wig.
	Her shirt.
	Her hair is still her hair ghost.
	Why are you not a wig?
	Why are you coming at me about my hair?
	Oh, do I have to repeat another TTS or do you guys want to get out of here?
	Come on, guys.
	And it's a complete and utter cloud chaser, and the rest only give answers that stay trendy and won't get them hate.
	Oh, yeah, plenty of hate.
	Yo, PGV, thank you for the message, man.
	I do appreciate it.
	JK donated $20.
	Alternative Barbie.
	I hear Kate Cod is great this time of year for a safari.
	The inhabitants of the continents of Russia and Canada send greetings.
	One and two, you don't need makeup.
	Thank you.
	Oh, wait to them.
	To Chair Six, if you're feeling unattractive, consider buying a wig.
	It's a look that anyone can pull off.
	I wear wigs.
	I was a wig influencer, love.
	Crime or bro donated $20.
	Hair hat hooligan in chair six.
	For someone who has so much to say about white folks, you try your best to emulate their looks.
	What's up with the hair hat, though?
	I'm a Barbie.
	I'm a Barbie doll.
	Mr. Toasty donated $20.
	Is it just me?
	Or does Chair 4 look one quadrillion.00 better without all the gothic makeup?
	It's just you, bro.
	Say it again.
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	Chair 6 crying racism.
	Let's speak about racial appropriation.
	Take off that white girl wig.
	A white man's invention called makeup.
	And let's see them prickles on top of your head, girl.
	First of all, Pierre Delecto donated $20.
	Andrew, do you want to fit in a pink question?
	What's a PNG question?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I'm not sure you sends another one.
	Clarify.
	There's a few more coming through.
	Justin Martin's donated $20.
	I literally cannot think of a better roast than just letting Chair 1 and 6 share their ideologies.
	Okay, that's actually a really good point.
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	The women who show removed their makeup look great and beautiful.
	Stop being insecure.
	You have natural beauty.
	PS your skin and paws will thank you.
	You're not in here right now.
	Dariel underscore Frank Castle 512 donated $20.
	Look how quick all those tens turned in twos.
	Andrew, no debate, please.
	She's dumb as a rock.
	I think those drones are out here trying to adopt these 304s.
	Brian, take them to the room.
	New Jersey's having a rough time right now.
	Jake donated $21.
	Thank you, Jake.
	Andrew, I missed you last show.
	But would you debate Chat GPT?
	It could smoke you.
	That would be chat GPT.
	Damn.
	Actually, I really could.
	I know the E.
	Well, Daniel Nosseri donated $20.
	One moment, you're a sweet little innocent Asian chick.
	The next to your friend is teaching you how to stick things up your butt.
	No comment.
	Yeah, that's exactly how it is.
	Thor, you did send in a message, but it's unfortunately against TOS.
	But he made a joke.
	I can't even say.
	Sorry, I can't.
	Thor, I can't.
	I can't.
	I can't do it, man.
	Thank you, though, for the message.
	They donated $20.
	Chef also based she couldn't listen to the steaming pile of poop chair one and six were spewing.
	Even if she's a syphilitic Pegasus, needs Jesus, and her soy boy BF wears her clothes, she's based.
	No, not at all, but could be donated $20, seven guys, five girls, dude wipes, widescreen TV, blue balls.
	Why did symbol take the blue balls?
	Interesting.
	Is this a gay male dating show?
	This is a gay.
	Kidding Bear donated $20.
	According to some DGen math and chat GPT, Chair 5 has taken 7 miles of penetration up the kaister this year.
	R.I.P. her pooper.
	Why would you do that now?
	So, Andrew doesn't use toys on his wife, and Brian doesn't lick love.
	In turn, screen this clip.
	Brian not able to find the love.
	Ladies' reaction?
	Okay.
	The fuck do you need to do that?
	Pasty George donated $20.
	Chair 3, please remove your wig.
	We want to see your natural hair.
	Do it.
	Do not be afraid.
	We want to see all your real views.
	Here we go.
	Let's do it.
	Let's go.
	Wait, if I give you $20, do you know how much that's worth?
	I've spent less of her new money on expensive makeup and spend it on a good dentist.
	Priorities are pretty skewed.
	You're lost.
	But now you'll have to do it.
	You have two $2 bills.
	I love the number.
	Anon donated $20.
	Seat 1, 4, and 5 looks significantly better without makeup.
	Seat 6 clearly has like 80 and pointless to argue with.
	Calls Canada a continent.
	Ha ha ha.
	Some of the most hill-thought arguments ever seen.
	Selena underscore Gornes donated $20.
	Most men prefer a woman with little or no makeup.
	Ladies, quit wasting you time and money on something that only makes you less attractive in the end.
	Chore XD donated $20.
	Get in your crystals lips.
	Get in the crystals.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So three.
	Three $2 bills.
	Wigs off.
	Here we go.
	Rest of the show.
	It's worth more than $6.00.
	Crazy how much women talk about insecure men, yet almost all women never leave the house without a mask today.
	A lot of women have plastic surgery.
	You got to do it.
	Okay, she's not going to do that.
	You said that.
	Dare six in your wide new Barbie standing up just like you'd Barbie.
	I just vomited a bit.
	Hey, Odis.
	Yo, what's up?
	Otis, this guy's a legend in World of Warcraft, by the way.
	Donated $20.
	I'd marry up number two or three just as long as Chair 3 stays off of.
	Love you.
	We have a few more coming through.
	Big Atlas donated $20.
	Care 6 Wevo.
	If what you bring to the table is that you are a Barbie, does that include that you wear accessories which are interchangeable, such as your hair?
	Yes.
	Garius Godfrey donated $20.
	I go to bed, whatever is still on.
	I wake up, whatever is still on.
	I'm starting to think whatever is for the masochists.
	Gigi to panel.
	W whatever.
	W Crucible crew.
	W Crucible crew.
	Chaley donated $20.
	I have the pink hair chicks back all day.
	She actually has a brain and a heart.
	Good job for sticking up for what you believe against the rest of these imbeciles who call themselves women.
	Thank you.
	Joe underscore McDonald donated $20.
	Unfortunately, feminism might SNT going away anytime soon and the birth rate crisis will only get worse.
	Thankfully, the magnetic pole reversal event will take place within our lifetime.
	Okay.
	How many more?
	Never heard of that.
	There's like a few more that are coming.
	One sec, guys.
	Almost done.
	Acidic touch donated $20.
	Life is missy.
	W for the girls who took off their makeup.
	Hi, Brian and Andrew.
	First donation to the show.
	Love what you guys do.
	Life is missy.
	Kitten Bear donated $20.
	Chair 3 laughs like a literal anime character.
	Please don't start and then shove the whole world up your butts like Chair 4.
	Now that's a talent.
	Brian Don't Eat Peach donated $20.
	Brian, you really can't defend this clip.
	I need the ladies to give a hot take on Brian's lack of female anatomy.
	Ladies, discuss.
	Yeah, I know the clip you're referencing.
	We don't do media reacts.
	I mean, you'd have to send in like crypto for that.
	But we don't do media reacts.
	It's especially not for Roast.
	In any case, this clip is claiming that I don't know how to locate the clitoris.
	It's so chip Cheerio.
	Yeah, in any case, I think people love Flipado.
	In any case, this clip, though, it's like from a show I did like two years ago.
	And like, I'm talking about the angle here.
	And I think people who watch the clip misunderstand what I'm talking about.
	It's like, if the girl's on top, like the angle in which you rub the.
	It's kind of D Gen, but not D Gen, but it's like the angle that, yeah, rub the cliff, she's on top.
	What?
	And people didn't understand.
	Like, whatever, whatever, whatever.
	There you go.
	There's your response, you hater, you.
	Okay.
	Sex is icky.
	K-pop underscore manager donated $20.
	Ladies, I commend you for coming on this show, knowing full well that Daddy Wilson is going to open up kind of whoop butterfly.
	He's savage, but there's logic.
	Don't tea it personal.
	Sixth seat, please.
	I'm worried for you.
	That's true.
	None of it's personal.
	The underscore doctor donated $20.
	Chess 6, there are no chic with dicks, only men with tits.
	You wool around the table, then call them the B-word.
	Bitches love it when you call them beautiful.
	Submersible Honky donated $20.
	I thought Lucy was dumb, but Chair 6 made Lucy look like Stephen Hawking on a ginkgo bio.
	What the fuck?
	Chair Pay, you'll ask for Andrew donated $20.
	Wait, Trump is coming.
	Chair 6 gets the rocks.
	You woo all around the table then call them the B-word bitches love it when you call them beautiful.
	Is anybody willing to do an oo-woo?
	Maybe like an actual one?
	Yeah, do an oo-oo.
	Okay, I have to compose myself.
	Okay, thank you for the reference.
	Ooh!
	Whoa, that was disappointing.
	Do it.
	She does laugh like an anime character.
	Here we go.
	Is that like good or is that bad?
	I think it's bad.
	Let's hear the ooh.
	Take the wig off, too.
	I already did it.
	I already did it, so I already got all the embarrassment.
	We're for Z-Club.
	Uh-woo?
	I don't know what that is.
	To paint pop for Andrew.
	Uh-woo?
	Yay!
	Wait, we missed it.
	Edward would have liked it.
	The guns would have liked it.
	The fuck was that?
	What the Sigma?
	And wore black because he was coming to a funeral.
	What the heck?
	Remember, folks, elf ears equals free.
	What the fuck?
	Why is it not showing us on the screen?
	Do you put the strap in the dishwasher?
	Yeah, it would melt.
	What the fuck?
	No?
	Maisie, tell them about the polycue you are involved in.
	What?
	Oh, I'm not in that.
	No, that's not my.
	Oh.
	I'm not.
	Frank has a girlfriend.
	Daryl underscore Frank Castle 512 donated $20.
	Share four.
	Don't worry about what your BF makes.
	Just make sure he has a job with health benefits for the next test TD.
	Can you imagine going on a date with Chair 3?
	She's gonna go broke on OF Boring.
	We'll go on a date.
	Ladies, what colors would you like your crystals to be?
	I need an answer from all of you.
	Hashtag crew crew.
	Crew crew?
	Sorry, guys.
	Clip it.
	Borat donated $19.99.
	My GF called me a sex machine this morning.
	Well, if we want to get all technical, her exact words were a fucking tool, but I think it's the same thing.
	Jack underscore M donated $20.
	Number four, you're a good person and a great sport about all of this, but I'm curious.
	Did the dude rub his junk all over you for that to get everywhere?
	Scythe can only spread by direct contact.
	I was on birth control.
	Double agent donated $19.99.
	Chair one is Ashley Judd and chair six is a socialist Stacey Dash knockoff.
	Oh, thank you.
	Ladies, we are making America great again.
	Tighten up your act and get straight.
	We won't tolerate this behavior anymore.
	Uh-oh.
	Thank you.
	Big Atlas donated $20.
	Also, Burrito Bro Brian.
	How are you a BLM advocate but won't partake in takeout?
	Won a square that won for us.
	Are you a filthy watcher?
	I don't understand that one.
	I was gonna say, I also want to say that pink dress girl and girl next to the left Mizzy made me lose brain cells.
	He's saying why are you always watching roast beef, but nothing?
	I don't do that because I'm a gentleman.
	Oh, no.
	My ex lied cream pies.
	It let her drag her flowers across the floor and act like she was a snake.
	Ryan, cheers to a good show tonight.
	Not really still gross, though.
	What the f***?
	Andrew, always happy $20.
	Glad you see my girlfriend growing up.
	She's a lesbian that talks non-stop.
	I call them HTTPS.
	I stopped it, bro.
	Wait, that was fun, guys.
	Wait.
	I swear I stopped it.
	I don't know why it just is going now.
	Is it going to stop?
	Okay, sorry.
	It degenerated itself.
	here i'm gonna like this uh if i can put on one of those wigs i'll take mine off Which ones?
	Like the colorful.
	Okay, deal.
	Take yours off.
	No, not deal.
	She can't mess with those wigs.
	But I have a spare wig.
	Wait, no, that's a bad.
	That's a bad deal.
	Why is it also, yes, I did have a loving father growing up.
	Same.
	What's the point of her taking it off and putting a different wig on?
	Because you would see the transformation.
	It's like a fun little thing.
	Why is the TTS not coming in?
	Okay, we just have to see it without the transformation first.
	But I like wanted to try.
	What if you take it off and then put it back on?
	I like to do that first.
	It's like a transformation.
	I don't know why the wig.
	Maybe we'll go with it.
	What's your name, Bobis?
	Are they calling you Bob?
	Why not TTS?
	So they're calling you.
	Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob.
	You know that I'm known for the Bob.
	What the frick?
	It like switched over to the TTS monster and then it stopped letting the TTS come through.
	That's weird.
	Hold on.
	Let me see what's going on.
	Oh my god.
	Life is music.
	You say it's almost three in the morning?
	Yeah.
	That means it's six o'clock my time.
	I'm sleepy.
	I hope someone clipped that.
	Chat, I'm not sure what happened to the TTS, but it's no longer working.
	Chat, we're cooked.
	Chat, are we cooked?
	Why?
	They're pretty cooked.
	Is it the angle?
	Switch alerts.
	That's weird.
	Boys, I don't know why the TTS all of a sudden stopped working.
	That's really weird.
	Let me see what that could potentially be, guys.
	While I'm trying to get this figured out, I don't know if I will.
	Any final thoughts from anybody before we wrap the show?
	It was wonderful meeting you all.
	Beautiful people.
	Thank you for this debate, Andrew.
	I really love that.
	I know we had a debate.
	When did that happen?
	I know why.
	Kitten Bear donated $20.
	Thanks, Brixon.
	Sneaky China, one-child policy.
	Less girls, less women, but still less women just.
	And excess.
	Something, something.
	Low effort joke women, dumb me, big, strong man, ooga booga, I like big booper.
	Kitten bear donated $20.
	What?
	It already came through.
	While we're waiting on that, I'm going to read this.
	Clusterism, thank you for the super chat.
	GG panel in transgens is either a skill or innate.
	You got it.
	Yes, much in transgens tonight.
	Thank you, man.
	Let it donated $20.
	Let this fat love Mizzy leave.
	She needs her midnight sloppits way overdue.
	Also, stop being pussies and make Black Barbie love take off her makeup.
	It's not fair everyone else did it.
	Sorry, Steven came over here to watch me.
	Thank you, man.
	Brixon.
	Great job on finding all of this to Lulu Lu tonight.
	Did you get all of your $2 bills from the spearmint in Torino?
	Go to church with Andrew this week.
	I don't go to the strip waiting for you.
	Okay, I don't go to strip clubs.
	GMD Jim's.
	Sorry, some of these got re-triggered because of the Bretamis.
	Thank you for the $20 super chat.
	Chair 1, did your daddy not teach you to actively listen while men are talking?
	No, he did not.
	Okay.
	Clearly.
	Tashi.
	Oh, I'll put that in.
	Oh, shit, this is going to drain my bank account just like fish tank.
	I'm addicted.
	Help.
	Yo, acid, thank you for the TTS, man.
	I do appreciate it.
	Yo, Tashi, Brian, I love you.
	I am ex-stripper and so grateful for you.
	Tell these girls pills are not their friend.
	Ex.
	Oh, she's an ex-stripper and grateful for me.
	Well, there you go.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Tashi.
	I do appreciate it.
	Probably not.
	Probably not.
	No.
	No, no, no.
	All right.
	Final call, guys, on the TTS's.
	If you want to get them in, that is the final call here.
	Like I said, any final thoughts here before we wrap the show?
	Before I was interrupted.
	Pretty much love the discussion.
	And great meeting, you guys.
	It was nice to meet you, too.
	It's nice to meet you.
	It was great to meet you and your wig.
	That you're not wearing.
	It's a pity.
	Thank you.
	I will say this panel was really fun.
	The last one was a little bit chaotic that I was on.
	And this one was only kind of chaotic.
	And I'm sorry.
	Because you complained for four hours straight.
	I did not complain before.
	You're still complaining.
	You were like.
	I'm exhausted.
	It's almost three in the morning.
	You've been here for 11 hours.
	I've been in the fucking club for longer than that.
	Do you mean Mr. Basteman donated $20?
	Chair 1, what compelled you to come on with your pokies out?
	Chair 6, what compelled your father to fornicate with a kitchen appliance to make a toaster brain like you?
	Bricks and find Jesus.
	Do you want me to actually answer that?
	Acidic touch donated $20.
	Quick, somebody get missy in a 2 a.m. slop.
	She's going to faint.
	This is urgent.
	Life is musy.
	We're going to raid Ampi, okay?
	I'm going to follow you right after this.
	It means life is miserable, mother.
	Oh.
	All right.
	We're going to wrap the show here.
	Here we go.
	Odyssey, thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I will interrupt when I want to interrupt.
	Not today, degenerate.
	Not today, degenerate.
	All right, guys, like the video, please.
	Like the video.
	We are going to wrap the show there at 10 hours.
	Come on.
	My goodness.
	I blame it on all of you.
	This is not my fault whatsoever.
	Anyway, it is a fucking normal workday.
	All right.
	So I would like to end this show As a call to action.
	With a call to action to the sex workers at the table.
	You, you, you, you probably do some weird shit.
	And then, sort of you, because it's within six months you're going to be doing like gangbangs and shit.
	So, um, can you, would you guys consider tonight on the whatever podcast quitting OnlyFans right now?
	I mean, if I find a rich man to marry in five minutes, yes.
	Brian's rich.
	I was just going to say, Brian.
	Brian, he likes elves, so just wear the okay.
	You can identify as an elf.
	Yeah, yeah.
	There you go.
	What about you two?
	Well, you guys, you guys are young.
	All of you are young.
	You're 20, 18, 18.
	You guys are going down a path that's going to lead you somewhere not good.
	You guys are still young.
	You can back out now and mitigate the damage.
	No.
	I'm waiting for after I graduate college.
	I need the money and I don't have time to get a job.
	That's a joke.
	You don't have time to eat.
	And do school.
	Like, I do veterinarian school and I'm not the smartest cookie.
	I have to study.
	Well, maybe you shouldn't become a veterinary.
	So like, well, I want to be, okay?
	Thank you.
	Yeah, but if you're not the smartest cookie, don't kill any dogs, please.
	Okay, but like, that's why you're going, I'm going to school.
	Yeah, you're going to put that shit on the front of your veterinarian clinic and you'll be like, not the smartest cookie veterinarian clinic.
	No, because then I would be the smartest because I actually applied myself to it.
	School doesn't make you smart.
	You're smart and you go to school.
	School does not make you smart.
	Okay, but you learn.
	That's how you, how do you gain knowledge?
	Well, you gain knowledge.
	Yeah, that's true.
	You learn.
	It's just that school's usually not the best place for that.
	Well, not if you don't apply yourself to anything.
	You guys are going to stop OnlyFans?
	No.
	You're going to stop.
	You're going to stop?
	Never.
	No.
	I will eventually.
	When I'm old and crusty, I will.
	All right.
	Get a full panel test and all.
	Five years.
	Oh, I'm just kidding.
	Maybe even three.
	When I graduate.
	Pastey George donated $20.
	Bold man gamer here.
	I remember the good old days when women were traditional and a two-parent household were the norm and affordable.
	Women then loved compliments and dating was not a meal ticket.
	No, it still was even then.
	For underscore the underscore patriarchy donated $20.
	Is the fact Andrew has a black ex-wife make him less racist or more racist since she's now the ex- Yeah, good question.
	You didn't think about the black ex-wife before you opened your mouth, did you?
	Do you have a black ex-wife?
	According to the internet, I do.
	I want to see the proof.
	So do I, but they haven't shown it to me yet.
	If they haven't shown it to me yet, they're not going to show it to you either.
	Then I can't say something.
	Sorry.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	Good times.
	I don't think Andrew sees copper.
	Tashi, I meant it, Brian.
	Your convo about men giving and not getting was very accurate.
	Thank you, Tashi.
	I appreciate the Super Chat message, guys.
	So, okay, well, I tried for the OF people.
	GG.
	Hold on.
	GG.
	Well played.
	To the panel.
	Last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who Super Chats donates and supports the show.
	Excuse me.
	We will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific for our final show.
	Final show of the year.
	Andrew will be there.
	We have a big guest.
	It's going to be a big, it's going to be big.
	Okay.
	Big guest.
	Andrew versus Mystery Guest.
	They've been asking for it.
	It's coming Tuesday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Be sure to tune in.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram.
	If you can make it to Santa Barbara, we have this one coming in.
	I'll let this one come in.
	Dariel underscore Frank Castle 512 donated $20.
	At the rate they're going, they'll be single moms before finishing school.
	Let the drones take them all.
	18 and can't work an honest day's work.
	Showing buttholes for 3.99 ain't it.
	I think you're on the drone.
	I know it is free.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Her OF is free.
	A sitting touch donated $20.
	$100 for a special 10-hour episode.
	Have a good night, everyone.
	Yo, Acid.
	Thank you so much, man.
	Do appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Let's see where we are.
	We're going to raid Ampi.
	He is.
	All right, guys.
	Thank you for watching on Twitch.
	We're going to raid Ampy.
	He is playing World of Warcraft hardcore.
	He's doing Shalomance.
	Just kite it.
	Lower the volume.
	Yeah, I mean, like, that's kind of like for phase one.
	That's.
	Yeah, Ice Mage is bad.
	Yeah.
	So, anyways, we're raiding Ampy over there on Twitch.
	He's playing World of Warcraft Classic.
	Hardcore.
	We're going to send that raid over right.
	I'm going to let him kill the ball.
	Actually, I'll just send it.
	Because that could take a while to kill the boss.
	They're kiting the boss.
	So, okay, I'm going to send that over right now, guys.
	All right.
	Let's see what the light is.
	This guy is one of the best players.
	He's a very, very good player.
	Very good player.
	I don't even know what the fuck I'm talking about.
	I'm just making shit up.
	Is that good?
	Yeah, used to play Mage.
	Used to play Mage.
	Boom.
	Boom here.
	Don't worry.
	Oh, there it is.
	Boom.
	Boom.
	Yo.
	Welcome in.
	Hope you had a great stream, Mr. Whatever.
	Ooh, they got...
	Oh, that's kind of dog shit.
	Oh, dude, what the fuck?
	They did get an epic, though.
	South Park episode of Wow.
	Robin Void's dog shit.
	So funny.
	Decent loot.
	Just getting those dog.
	All of the tombstones?
	Okay, whatever.
	All right.
	Okay, okay, guys.
	You can get out of that.
	Let me just, no, okay, we're all good on chat.
	No supers.
	Okay, guys.
	07's in the chat.
	Good night, guys.

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