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Oct. 30, 2024 - Whatever Podcast

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She Sent Her Ex Gorilla 💩?! Body Count RESETS After 7 Years?! Single Since 2007?! | Dating Talk #209

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	Hi, my name is Alex.
	I'm 25.
	I'm originally from New York, but I live in LA now, and my occupation is a model.
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	What kind of modeling?
	Kind of anything and everything.
	I do music videos.
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	I went to college at GW in Washington, D.C.
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	A little closer to the mic if you can.
	I studied political science.
	Political science.
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	So you got your bachelor.
	Yeah, my undergrad bachelor's.
	Yeah.
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	Cool.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Sina.
	I'm 18 years old.
	I'm currently in school for engineering.
	And my occupation, I do OF.
	Okay, and where are you from?
	Toronto.
	Canada, okay.
	Do you speak French?
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	And your stuff.
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	And then what do you do on OF?
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	Well, I mean, people do all kinds of different things on there.
	Well, I guess you have to check it out to find out, right?
	Okay.
	We do have, I think, maybe one of your TikToks to react to a little bit later.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Hi.
	My name is Leah.
	I'm 21.
	I was born in Kiev, Ukraine, and moved to LA four years ago.
	My occupation, I'm getting my master's in theater next semester, so I'm an actress.
	Okay.
	And have you been in any TV shows or films or commercials, anything like that?
	Most of the projects that I was a part of was about theater.
	Theater project.
	Yeah.
	What productions, like a couple productions you've done?
	The most recent production was related to my university directly.
	It's CSUN, California State University, Northridge.
	It was an amazing play called Guarded, written by Bony B. Alvarez.
	This play demonstrated the biases of the Hollywood life, just in short.
	Okay, and what's your favorite play?
	Or top three, if it's hard to.
	Probably my.
	Wait, can I guess?
	Rent.
	Why?
	I don't know.
	I just get that.
	Rent?
	Rent.
	I did not know this play.
	How do you not?
	You're a theater kid and you don't know rent?
	Okay.
	I have no idea.
	Maybe it's before your time.
	Sorry.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, what are your top three?
	My top three will be.
	Okay, the first one is called The Mockingbird for Olenka.
	It's a Ukrainian play that shows the life of the survived people during the World War II.
	And the second one, I would say that I love the productions for Rhinoceros.
	It's an abstract play that is really hard to work on, but just very complex, worth it to try.
	And then third.
	The third one.
	Maybe it will be Allergies for Angels, Punks and Real.
	What the fuck is that guy?
	Sorry, I don't know any of those plays, but they sound great.
	I mean, you're not the theater matrix.
	I'm not.
	I'm not, but, and are you, the plays you do, are they musicals?
	Are you a singer or what?
	I'm not a good singer.
	I make music and I'm not a good singer.
	No.
	Okay.
	Yeah, ridiculous.
	So I definitely do not specialize in musicals.
	No.
	Okay.
	Could I have you just tilt your mic down just a little bit?
	And maybe scoot into the scoot it, like tilt it down?
	And then tilt it down?
	Yeah, and then scoot into the table.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Tony Bray.
	I'm 41.
	I'm from Alaska, and I'm a speech therapist.
	All right.
	How long?
	Speech language?
	Speech language pathologist.
	How long have you been doing that for?
	11 years.
	11 years.
	Okay, very cool.
	Can you tell me if you detect any, how do I put this?
	Irregularities in my speaking or cadence, and you can criticize it or feedback.
	Nothing yet?
	Nothing yet.
	Okay, nothing yet.
	Good frequency.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Tiffany.
	I'm 19 years old.
	I'm originally from Irvine, and I'm a student at UCSB majoring in Econ and PoliSci.
	All right, and it's your sophomore year, right?
	Yes.
	All right, welcome back.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Megan.
	I'm 25 and I live in LA and I edit websites and I live stream on Bigo and I start my own podcast.
	So yeah.
	All right.
	Any school?
	Yeah, I went to Occidental.
	What did you study?
	Media production.
	Okay, you got your bachelor's.
	All right, cool.
	What about you?
	I'm Elizabeth.
	I am 35 and I'm an associate marriage and family therapist in addition to a survivor leader and human trafficking advocate and consultant.
	So you advocate for human trafficking.
	Victims of human trafficking.
	Oh shit, okay, anti-human trafficking.
	In favor, like you're advocating for it.
	No.
	Okay, just checking.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Silly.
	I'm 30 years old and I'm from Belgium and I'm a parking inspector.
	All right.
	Any school?
	Yeah.
	High school, just high school.
	Okay.
	You didn't go to college or anything.
	And you're a parking inspector.
	Yes.
	How long have you been doing that for?
	Half a year.
	Half a year.
	What were you doing before that?
	I sold games at like some kind of GameStop thing.
	Okay, like a for seven years.
	For seven years.
	Okay.
	So retail, basically.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And your parking inspection job.
	Is it through the police?
	Like are you or?
	Just through the city.
	Through the city.
	Yeah, so I have to check if park cars have paid for their parking spots.
	If they didn't, I have to find them.
	Wait, then you're from Belgium?
	Yes.
	But the Dutch-speaking part of it?
	Yes.
	Yeah, because you don't sound, you don't have like a French-esque accent.
	Oh, thanks.
	You're the first one who says that.
	And what part of Belgium?
	Yeah, Flemish part.
	Flemish part.
	Okay.
	Is there a city?
	Yeah, it's close to Brussels.
	Close to Brussels.
	You're in the Brussels metro area.
	Just next to it.
	Okay, cool.
	And have you ever gotten into any altercations while giving out a parking ticket?
	Because a lot of people don't like parking enforcement.
	You are the enemy of a lot of people.
	Yes, I am the enemy.
	Okay.
	It girsts through a lot.
	All right, cool.
	And by the way, guys, Andrew, I know it's in the title.
	Andrew is going to be joining us, but he's going to be calling in a little bit later.
	There's some kind of family stuff going on with him, but he will be calling in a little bit later.
	So he'll be here soon.
	We're going to go around the table.
	Actually, really quick, I had a couple questions for you.
	I noticed you had an interesting tattoo on your Instagram, but it's not visible, right?
	Like, can we see it?
	It's still visible if I move my hair a little.
	Actually, Damien, why don't you just pull up?
	Because we just have your Instagram.
	We'll just pull up the photo.
	Let's go.
	a little easier and i i want the story behind the because it's an interesting tattoo Yeah, go ahead.
	I'm winning, and is that like a Japanese...
	What is that?
	Um...
	It's actually a very special drawing that my tattoo artist created for me.
	So it was not pre-drawn.
	I showed him the idea.
	And that image, I do not know if it's going to sound funny a little, but it came to me in the dream, actually.
	And one day I just woke up with an idea that I would love to have this kind of a guardian that will be right in the back of my head and will see all the shit that is happening behind my back.
	So it will protect me.
	Do you believe in God?
	I'm agnostic.
	Do you understand?
	Agnostic basically States that they do not know, and they did not have a very specific image for the god.
	But at the same time, they can feel or sense that there's something they just do not believe in any of the portraits already created by some religions.
	Does anybody here have a tattoo they regret?
	I have a quick question.
	I was wondering: did you shave your head?
	Have to shave your head to get that tattoo?
	Did you have to shave it big bald?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I was in Berlin and I shaved my head, and the next day I got the tattoo.
	That's amazing.
	I shaved my head once too.
	Yeah.
	Awesome.
	You guys bonding over your shaving your heads.
	Why do you shaved?
	Yeah, have you ever shaved?
	Spears episodes?
	Well, I used to have dreadlaps, and so I had shaved my head.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, I have that in common with you, and then I shaved my head and I have that in common with you.
	I have a tattoo I regret.
	You have a tattoo I regret.
	What is it?
	Is it your Kanye tattoo?
	Yeah, it's the ballerina from Runaway.
	Well, don't you have like multiple Kanye West-inspired tattoos?
	I have three.
	So you only regret one?
	Yeah.
	The other two you like.
	Why do you regret that one?
	Because it's on my waist and it's like too, it's like too much.
	It's too big.
	Too big?
	Yeah.
	It's just the size of it.
	Yeah.
	It's not the design.
	No.
	And the location.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay, cool.
	All right.
	So we're going to go around the table.
	What is everybody's current relationship status?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Go ahead.
	I'm currently single.
	And I have currently been single for a year since my last relationship, actually, this month.
	So, and it's been the best year ever.
	So no regrets there.
	And my longest relationship was four years.
	I've had two relationships that were almost that length.
	My only two ever.
	And I'm proud of that.
	I think four-year relationships, you learn a lot about yourself.
	You learn.
	Yeah.
	So proud of that.
	Okay.
	And so the relationship that ended one year ago, is that the four-year relationship?
	Yep.
	Okay.
	Who broke up with who?
	I broke up with him.
	And then you had another four-year relationship?
	Yeah, prior to that.
	That's also the tattoo I regret because I tatted his initials on my ring finger when I was 17.
	So don't do that.
	And so who broke up with who?
	I'm always the one who dumps them.
	Always.
	Always.
	You've never been dumped?
	100%.
	Always the dumper.
	How many dumps have you done?
	Two.
	That sounds good.
	Two.
	And I'm two for two.
	That sounded kind of pause.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	What was the question again?
	Oh, relationship status.
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	Longest relationship.
	So I've been single for a year.
	My longest was a year and a half.
	Okay.
	What about that guy that was with you?
	Is that not?
	What?
	Like, what?
	What?
	What?
	No, there was a guy standing with her while she was waiting, so I was just wondering who that is.
	Your brother?
	Manager?
	No, no.
	Escort?
	No, not like male escort.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	You said your longest relationship was 1.5 years?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And who broke up with who?
	I broke up with him.
	Why?
	Complicated.
	Uh-huh.
	We were both young and immature.
	Yeah.
	So I guess I just took the leap and decided to do it.
	Okay.
	And wait, you're 18.
	When did you start your OnlyFans?
	18.
	Right?
	Like the day after your birthday?
	No.
	Two months ago, September.
	Okay.
	Oh, so you just turned 18?
	No.
	Oh.
	You started your OnlyFans two months ago.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Relationship status?
	Single.
	Okay.
	How long have you been single for?
	For about two years.
	All right.
	Longest relationship?
	Two and a half years.
	Who broke up with who?
	That person broke up with me.
	Okay.
	Was that the one that ended two years ago?
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay.
	Man or woman?
	Woman.
	Okay.
	And you're bisexual, correct?
	Straight.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	But you dated a woman for two and a half years?
	Yeah, that's the problem.
	Explain that one.
	Long story short, that woman broke up with me because she already sensed that I did not love her anymore and I was not conscious about my own personality enough to realize it on time that I'm not into women and that I cannot commit to a woman like that.
	So she was already felt very unhappy and unfulfilled while I thought that it's just a complicated period of the relationship.
	So I was incredibly grateful when she did it for me and for both of us.
	You're grateful she dumped you.
	Yeah, I'm so happy that she did because that's when my best life started.
	I'm so sorry.
	I'm not made for a woman.
	That's all.
	Okay.
	So you were, it was like an experimental phase or something.
	It was actually the most successful relationship I ever had.
	I have never felt that loved, that secure, that respected.
	But again, I need a man.
	I see myself only with a man.
	So at some point, I was not feeling comfortable or happy in that relationship as well.
	Okay.
	But you have dated men before then.
	Yeah.
	You said you've been single though for two years.
	I mean, have you dated in this time period?
	I did not have a partner, but I did dating in general.
	Seeing new people, going on a date.
	Yeah.
	Is there currently a guy in the picture?
	No.
	No.
	No guy?
	No.
	Not even texting.
	Well, many are texting, but it's such a regular texting, it's not like...
	Sneaky link?
	No, it's like, oh, hey, would you like to go to the park one day?
	I'm like, oh, I'm busy.
	Okay.
	That's it.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	Not happening, unfortunately.
	When's the last time you went on a date?
	Maybe two weeks ago.
	Two weeks ago?
	Okay.
	First date.
	Yeah, and last date.
	First date, last date?
	Yeah.
	You didn't like him?
	No.
	Why is that?
	He ended up being bisexual.
	I knew you were going to say he was gay.
	Or bi or whatever.
	Sorry.
	I do not know if that's allowed, but yeah, that's the problem number one.
	Yeah, I do not.
	I would not be theater guy.
	The what?
	Theater.
	Theater.
	Oh, no, no.
	No, no, it's just that.
	It was not the energy that I'm striving for.
	Would you date a bi guy then?
	No.
	No.
	Why not?
	Usually when I deal with the bi guys, they literally do not have the energy I need.
	I'm not interested in sharing my men with the other men.
	I'm not interested in having this risk into the relationship, especially one that's a bottom.
	I'm so sorry.
	That guy was a bottom toe.
	Watch!
	He was a bottom.
	Yeah.
	How did you know?
	Oh, he shared?
	He told you?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Wait, just really quick to the whole panel, just show of hands.
	Would you date a bisexual man?
	Nobody?
	Would you date a bisexual girl?
	Maybe.
	Yeah.
	I'd prefer to date a straight girl, though, but I suppose I would date a bi girl.
	What?
	Why are you looking at me, Tiffany?
	What the fuck?
	So, wait.
	Okay.
	What's the, in the two years you've been single, what's the longest you've like seen a guy?
	Four months.
	Four months, but not boyfriend, girlfriend.
	It was like a casual hookup.
	No, it was getting to the point of a relationship, but thankfully never happened.
	Also, bi?
	No, just a dumbass.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	Okay.
	My longest relationship was two and a half years.
	He was my best friend for like two and a half years before that.
	So we were in relationship with each other for like five years, but we were only an item for two and a half years.
	Were you guys having carnal knowledge?
	Yes, we lived together.
	No, I mean for the previous two and a half years.
	No.
	Just friends.
	Yeah.
	Strictly friends.
	And roommates, but strictly friends until it changed.
	Yeah, you guys weren't together for five years.
	No, no, I said we were together for two and a half years.
	No, but then you said five.
	Did I not?
	No, he was my best friend for two and a half years, and then he was my boyfriend for two and a half years.
	Did she not say five?
	We were in.
	I heard five.
	We were in.
	I heard a five.
	Yeah, we were in a relationship for a total of five years, including two and a half years as my best friend and two and a half years as my boyfriend.
	And maybe I'm just being pedantic, but I don't know if I would consider you guys in a relationship for five years.
	You had a friendship for two and a half years, and then you were in a relationship for two and a half years.
	Yeah, I guess.
	I was a bit nitpicky on that.
	So that's your longest relationship.
	And you've been single for how long?
	That was 2007.
	So 17 years.
	You've been single for.
	I have not called anybody a boyfriend for 17 years.
	Whoa.
	Or committed to anything.
	So you've been single since the Bush administration.
	Yes.
	George Bush.
	That's true.
	That's correct.
	Affirmative.
	You've been celibate for 17 years?
	I did not say that.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Just clarify.
	Wait, so okay.
	Your 2.5-year relationship, which was your longest, that ended in 2007.
	So you would have been 20 early 20s.
	24.
	Okay.
	23, something like that.
	All right.
	And huh.
	Since then, what's the longest period of time you've been involved with a man?
	Or a long time?
	There was a man that I talked to on the phone.
	We had a long distance.
	I'm going to say relationship, but I want to be careful the way I use that word with you, Brian.
	Yeah.
	I'm very triggered by it.
	Yeah, it was.
	It was a long distance thing.
	We talked on the phone a lot.
	And then I went to go visit him.
	And I was like, I don't actually like spending time with you.
	This was a big waste of time.
	That was about a year.
	But you only saw him in person once?
	And you guys carried on a long distance, like you met online?
	No, he was the brother of a friend of mine.
	And we talked on the phone at FaceTime.
	For a year?
	But you only met in person once?
	For a week.
	And then it ended?
	Yes, I ended that.
	So there was like a year buildup of like you started long distance.
	Damn, that's okay.
	That's I really, I really, it's important to me to get to know somebody for a year?
	Sorry.
	Did I say that out loud?
	My bad.
	Well, there was nothing that we can do across the country to be physically closer and like get to know each other that way.
	But when we were physically closer, just proximally, then I was like, you know what?
	I actually don't like spending time with you the way I thought I might.
	I learned a lot.
	I don't want to be in a long distance relationship.
	What was the issue when you guys met in person?
	I don't want to nag.
	Sex was bad.
	Bad sex.
	It was a lot of other things.
	Peanuts too big.
	I don't eat ramen noodles for lunch.
	Peanuts too small?
	He didn't tip the waitress.
	That's a problem.
	Wait, sorry, what?
	What about that?
	Can't be with someone who doesn't tip the waitress.
	That's embarrassing.
	And being embarrassed.
	I did a job.
	It was pretty consistent.
	But yeah, I think being embarrassed is one of the worst feelings in the world.
	And I couldn't possibly feel embarrassed.
	What were you embarrassed about?
	About tipping the waitress poorly.
	The tipping thing.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'd have to go back to the restaurant and buy some syrup and add 10 bucks and be like, give to the dad.
	Did you pay for the date?
	What a great question.
	He did a couple times.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Maybe that's the way I could have recovered.
	I should have gone Dutch and then I could have made a good tip.
	Yeah, you could have contributed to the.
	Oh, and I did.
	Like, I would go back and I would buy a souvenir from the restaurant and then I'd add a tip to the little item that I bought so that I could make sure that she's taken care of.
	Okay.
	And then did you guys have carnal knowledge?
	Such a funny phraseology.
	Yes.
	During that week, yes.
	Was it?
	wasn't good i cannot confirm or deny your question brian Well, I mean, it would give us good insight into perhaps the cause of this.
	You know, you guys.
	It wasn't hypnotizing.
	Not hypnotizing?
	Okay.
	All right.
	So didn't tip sex was mediocre.
	Is that pretty much the base of the quarrel, I guess?
	There's just a really big difference between the way that you spend time with someone in person and then the story that you make up in your mind about somebody when you're just on the phone or just messaging people.
	It's the same way that I feel like when you're messaging someone online and you're trying to get to know them and you think that you've gotten to know them well enough that you agree to like have a date and then you have a date and you're like, oh my god, I just wasted weeks messaging this person and I can tell in you wasted a year, but go ahead.
	On the phone and with FaceTime video, I thought that that was talk several times a week, three, four times a week.
	A couple hours.
	At least an hour.
	At least an hour.
	Yeah.
	Somebody do that.
	And with the time difference?
	Yeah, with the time difference, it was really inconvenient.
	And when we actually spent time together, it just wasn't the magic.
	Who flew out to who?
	I flew out to him.
	Did he pay for your flight?
	200 in there.
	You paid for your own flight?
	Yes.
	Oh.
	No.
	No.
	Have you been flown out before?
	Yes, I have.
	Yes, I have.
	How many times have you been flown out?
	A few times.
	It's not like something I do regularly.
	Where to?
	Miami?
	Out the country, baby does.
	Oh, out the country.
	Business class only, too.
	Where?
	Any Middle Eastern countries?
	Yes.
	Saudi.
	One of my exes was Arab.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Yeah, which country?
	He's from Kuwait, so we went all over the Middle East together.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	And you've been flown out to Europe?
	Yes, I have been flown out to Europe, but not in like a weird way, like in a way of like I was talking to somebody and we decided to go together.
	Not in a way of like any type of like transactional thing.
	Okay, sure.
	How many times total do you think you've been flown out?
	Probably like a handful, like five maybe.
	Okay.
	All right, cool.
	So single since 2007.
	Yes.
	And did you say the longest period of time that you've been involved with somebody since then?
	Like have you had a one-year thing, a six-month thing?
	No, just the phone relationship.
	Otherwise, no, everything fizzles out pretty quickly.
	Why is that?
	Why is that?
	That's a great question.
	I'm asking you.
	Let's get to the bottom of this.
	Is it them?
	Is it you?
	Once you get to be in your 40s and you're never married and no kids, you start to learn that it's you.
	But what's your analysis?
	What's your assessment of yourself then?
	You know, I may be being a little self-deprecating when I say that.
	But I'm looking for a good match and I'm not, I don't want to just settle on like, oh, okay.
	I don't know.
	I want to be in love.
	I want to love somebody more than I've ever loved anybody in my whole life.
	And that takes time.
	And I think that love probably looks and feels a lot different in your 40s than it does in your 20s.
	And so that's a really hard place to get to love somebody really hard and to have a meaningful relationship with somebody.
	Why aren't you dating apps?
	Shudder.
	I've done that.
	I've done that.
	It feels like a reject club.
	What do you mean, reject club?
	People who couldn't find the match in real life.
	So they have to go to the reject club.
	Yeah.
	So you?
	Yeah, I'm hearing you.
	Yeah.
	That's why I got on there.
	And I'm like, you know what?
	I'm going to find the exit.
	I'm not going to do this anymore.
	It's like, but aren't they?
	They're kind of in the same boat that you're in.
	Yep.
	Anyways, in any case, I don't think somebody's on a dating app.
	It doesn't mean that they're rejects.
	I know.
	I'm being a little harsh.
	I'm being a little harsh.
	But in any case, so what are you looking for in a man?
	I want somebody who impresses me.
	Impress?
	Yeah, I want to be impressed with capacity.
	I know that that's going to wear off, but you could impress me with anything.
	Your talents, your talents.
	Yeah.
	Your talents, your skills, your knowledge.
	Maybe you know lots of stuff about lots of things.
	So like high intelligence, high IQ?
	Yeah, high intelligence or maybe just someone who knows how to fix things around the house.
	And these are all options.
	You don't have to be all of these things.
	But they've got to be one or a few.
	You have to be interesting.
	Interesting.
	Yeah, interesting.
	Interesting.
	So what are the other things?
	Provoke an intellectual conversation.
	I want somebody who we can have shared meals together and we enjoy the same kinds of food.
	I want someone who, he doesn't have to make as much money as I, but I want him to be able to afford to go on vacations with me.
	And I mean, I can kick in and I can help.
	I break six figures.
	Okay.
	Would you like the guy to also make six figures?
	I mean, that would be nice, but I'm totally flexible because I know I don't want to be too narrow.
	I'm really open to the person.
	Sure.
	But as far as what they bring to the table, I don't want to completely take care of them.
	But you know what?
	If this man can build a house from the bottom up, I'll buy that house and you build it, honey.
	That would be fine.
	Wait, you want a man who can build the skull on his own?
	No, I'm not a complete absolute.
	There's like HVAC, there's plumbing, and you have to pay for all of it?
	Right?
	I'm not asking.
	If you could find a man who could actually build the house on his own, it wouldn't even have to have all that.
	I live in Alaska and I'd be happy in a dry cabin.
	I'm a cabin maker.
	Okay.
	I'm not hung up on a perfect idea.
	Let's go back really quick to the income.
	$50,000 too little?
	No, I think that that'd be adequate, but just someone who can afford to go on vacation with me and live the lifestyle that I want to live.
	I can take care of my part.
	Okay.
	So what is the lifestyle that you want to live?
	I want to go out to the theater, enjoy some shows.
	I want to go to concerts and I want to be in the front row.
	I'm going on a vacation to Peru right now and I'm going on a seven-day yoga retreat in Machu Picchu and I would love someone who can pay their own way to join me on a trip like that.
	So you'd want them to go 50-50 with you on the vacationing and stuff?
	Yeah.
	Even if you out-earned them by well, I mean, I could pay for like the flights, but like as far as when it comes to this vacation, for example, I paid for the yoga retreat for myself.
	I would want him to pay for, you know, participating.
	What if he doesn't want to participate in the yoga retreat?
	Then he can go on a different, we could find a different vacation, and I'll go on yoga retreat, and he can go on a cruise and play poker.
	Sure.
	You can impress me with how well you play poker.
	You could impress me lots of different ways.
	Okay.
	So you want somebody to impress you?
	You want someone to be interesting?
	Any other things?
	Are there any physical traits like height or that sort of thing?
	I want someone who can fit in a regular airplane seatbelt and who doesn't have to ask for a seatbelt extender.
	Okay.
	So someone you don't want to date an obese guy.
	See, I want to be careful with that word because he doesn't have to be perfect.
	That would be my measurement.
	My barometer is fit into a don't have to ask for a seatbelt extender.
	So he could be obese, just not that obese.
	Right.
	I don't know how to frame it.
	What about height?
	Not that.
	I'm a short lady.
	I mean, I would go pretty short and I would go shorter than I. Would you date someone shorter than you?
	I mean, five foot.
	I can go down to five feet.
	But if the man is shorter than five feet, he's going to need a shorter woman.
	Wait, I have a question.
	Wouldn't you want to date someone who's like a provider?
	Well, yeah, that would be great.
	Do you think you've lowered your standards over the years?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Quick yes.
	What were your standards when you were 20?
	Yeah.
	At that time, I would want somebody who would out-earn me, but at that time, I didn't know what my earning potential was going to be.
	Wait, so what's the difference now?
	Like, why is it lowered so much?
	Is it because of the.
	Because the pool is a lot more narrow.
	Okay.
	I'm just going to be perfectly candid.
	Okay.
	And so in the past year, how many first dates have you gone on?
	One this year.
	Just one?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Any sneaky links?
	Sneaky links?
	That's like casual plane hookup type thing?
	No, nothing casual, but the last time I kind of matched with somebody was maybe two or three months ago, someone that I've known for a while.
	We linked.
	We linked for like a week.
	Cardinal knowledge?
	Affirmative.
	Affirmative.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	All right.
	And if they're not impressive or they're not interesting, is that a deal breaker?
	See, I think that people become interesting once you start to get to know them.
	Almost everybody's in the friend zone right off the bat because I'm just trying to get to know you.
	And my interest in you grows when I learn more about you and what your skills and talents are.
	And that's when I become attracted to somebody.
	Wait, and you live in Alaska, right?
	Yes.
	What's the population of Alaska?
	Around 750,000, a little bit under that.
	Are you in Anchorage?
	That's the capital?
	A little bit north of Anchorage.
	That's the capital, right?
	Juneau is the capital.
	Or it's the most important.
	It's the most populous area, yes.
	You're an hour?
	Or how far from the capital?
	Not the capital, the Anchorage.
	From Anchorage.
	I'm about 20 minutes, 30 minutes from Anchorage, but that's just from the north side of Anchorage.
	It takes another 45 minutes to get all the way across the city.
	I feel like it's got to be hard to date in Alaska.
	It's like the most remote place.
	You know, I wish I was thinking of things like that when I was 30 and I decided to move there.
	I'm not sure.
	Right now I'm buying a house and I'm going to own it in three more years and then I'll be better positioned to make those kind of choices.
	Texas has been kind of on the brain lately, but in Alaska, they say that the ratio of men to women is 10 men to one woman.
	And they probably say this other places, but a saying in Alaska is that the odds are good, but the goods are odd.
	Does that apply to you?
	Affirmative.
	Affirmative.
	All right, okay.
	All right, what about you?
	I'm in a relationship.
	Okay.
	How long have you been in the relationship?
	About a year.
	One year?
	Like 11 months.
	All right.
	Cool.
	It's long distance or okay.
	Is this your longest relationship?
	It's my first ever.
	Okay.
	And you've been on the show like two times, I think, before?
	Two times or three?
	I think three.
	But back in 2023, right?
	It's been a while since we've had you on.
	If I recall, you were celibate prior to this guy?
	Yeah.
	Still celibate?
	Stop the cap.
	Wait, wait, really?
	Yeah.
	Are you waiting till marriage?
	Yeah.
	You're Christian, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay, got it.
	What about you?
	I think my shirt says it all.
	Oh, I can't.
	Can you read it for us?
	Because I can't really see it.
	It says, I'm single and in the mood to get nervous around someone I find attractive.
	I don't really get that nervous.
	Oh.
	Okay, so you're single?
	I am single.
	And ready to do whatever your shirt says.
	How long have you been single for?
	I've been single for like, I want to say like two years, but I've had like things with people in between, kind of.
	Like, boys just love me.
	We said I love you.
	The two guys in between that.
	But my last guy, yeah.
	Longest relationship?
	Three years.
	Into the mic?
	Into the mic?
	Three years.
	Three years.
	All right.
	Who broke up with who?
	I broke up with him because I saw him memoing this girl that he was not allowed to talk to.
	I mean, not that he wasn't allowed to talk to, but we agreed that if you talked to her.
	Did you see what the note was?
	Was it, like, for Plan B or something?
	I think she was, like... 50 bucks or something.
	I don't know exactly what it was, but I think she was buying, like, something from him.
	If you know what I mean.
	Drugs.
	I was buying drugs.
	Can we say that?
	No.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But yeah.
	Okay.
	Oh, my God.
	I said too much.
	And the three-year relationship, was that the one that ended two years ago?
	I mean, they were both like around three years.
	Oh, there was another three-year relationship.
	Yeah.
	Which ended two years ago.
	Yeah.
	Who broke up with who?
	He passed away from an overdose.
	Sorry to hear.
	Yeah, sorry.
	I just got dark a little bit.
	Okay.
	And then let's see what else.
	In the two-year period you've been single, you said there's been a couple guys in the picture.
	Only two.
	Only two guys in the picture.
	How long were you seeing them?
	Like, I saw one guy for a year, and then the other one, it, like, recently ended, because he's a hoe.
	Wait, you saw one of them for a year?
	Yeah.
	Were your boyfriend, girlfriend?
	No.
	It was a situation shit.
	Yeah, he was like a lot older.
	I wanted to live my life, but he treated me right.
	How old was he?
	Um, like, like early 40s.
	Okay.
	About 25.
	I'm not like a beauty.
	That's not that bad.
	So, like, 15, 20-year age gap?
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay, that's fine.
	And were you guys exclusive?
	Uh, kind of, yeah.
	What do you mean, kind of?
	You were seeing other guys?
	No, I actually wasn't.
	I wasn't.
	No, yeah, I wasn't.
	I wasn't.
	Okay.
	But you've been.
	Wait.
	And then the other guy was for how long?
	Six months, you said?
	It was like we met last December.
	Okay.
	And how long did you guys date for?
	Well, we didn't date, but we were like seeing each other for like six months.
	You didn't date?
	So what was the nature of seeing each other?
	Like we would hang out.
	At night?
	During the day, actually.
	Okay.
	My money-making hours, I would put aside for him.
	He was my neighbor, so it was like really like.
	Convenient.
	Convenient.
	Like, yeah, like four minutes.
	Like, that's rare in LA.
	He only lasted four minutes?
	No, it was, he was four minutes.
	Oh, sorry.
	I thought we were talking about the nature.
	Okay.
	No, no, no.
	So it was like a friends with benefits, hookup, buddy.
	We were like friendly neighbors.
	With benefits.
	Friendly neighbors with benefits.
	Yeah, he brought me cookies.
	Oh.
	Cool.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I am married.
	Okay.
	How long have you been married for?
	Seven years.
	Together for how long?
	Seven and nine months.
	Seven years and nine months.
	All right.
	Kids?
	Yes.
	How many kids?
	One.
	All right.
	From him?
	No.
	Different guy?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Longest relationship?
	Seven years and nine months.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	How old's your kid?
	16.
	So you were 20?
	19.
	19?
	Okay.
	How long were you dating that guy?
	We weren't dating.
	It was a...
	Great.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	But.
	Reacts.
	Yeah.
	So we're.
	We weren't dating, but.
	And I don't get any.
	I didn't get any support from him ever.
	Child support?
	No child support?
	No.
	Well, I gave him the option.
	I basically told him that he could like be in her life or not because he was denying the pregnancy.
	And then he chose not to.
	And I just said that I would ask that he not contact me until she's old enough to understand.
	And so I never asked him for anything.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm in a two-year relationship.
	My longest relationship is five years.
	All right, five years.
	Who broke up with who in the five-year relationship?
	Me.
	Why?
	I changed.
	How so?
	I have like a change every five years.
	I don't know.
	I wanted to go out and stuff.
	And he didn't.
	You wanted to go out?
	Yeah.
	What do you mean?
	Like to bars?
	I was with him during COVID.
	So I was inside a lot and we liked it because he's a gamer.
	But then COVID helped me in a lot of the house and I wanted to go out.
	Sure.
	He didn't.
	How did you meet your current boyfriend?
	In a game store.
	At your work?
	No, not in a game.
	Yeah, he goes in the game store.
	He was playing Magic and I was waiting for my graded Pokemon cards.
	He was playing Magic the Gathering?
	Yes.
	Is he good?
	He plays Commander, so it doesn't really matter.
	Wait, he was doing it.
	He played.
	Sorry, wait, repeat the question.
	He was doing magic.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Doing the magic.
	Doing the magic, yes.
	On me.
	Yeah, I explained the magic.
	Magic the Gathering.
	Do you know Pokemon?
	Like the card game?
	Not really.
	Do you, you know, well, like, I know it, but I'm not really, I don't play.
	Oh, yeah, it's a different kind of Pokemon game.
	It's with magic cards.
	I love Abraham.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	And does he wear a fedora?
	No.
	What is that?
	A fedora?
	It's a gamer uniform.
	Oh, yeah.
	Put that on.
	Oh, thanks.
	Like that thing.
	Oh, cute.
	That's like the Magic the Gathering official headgear.
	If you play Magic, you have to wear that.
	No.
	That sucks.
	I'll take it back.
	Thanks.
	Cool.
	Actually, wait.
	No, let's get rid of that.
	Okay, cool.
	Let's see.
	We're going to get into some of the pre-show notes, guys.
	Like the video if you're tuning in.
	Andrew Wilson will be joining us in a little bit, guys, in just a little bit.
	So we're going to get into the notes here.
	Why don't we start with Cena?
	All right, Cena.
	So you do OnlyFans, you do exclusive uncensored content, solo, and BG content.
	Yes.
	So boy girl content.
	Yes.
	Who do you know?
	It says it on your OS.
	Yeah, I do a little investigating on the guests beforehand.
	Not investigating, but research rather.
	You're single, but I mean, you do BG content.
	So who are you doing the BG content with?
	Not your boyfriend?
	Like, not, it's not your, it's like just a guy.
	My roommate.
	Your roommate.
	Okay.
	And then you're, let's see what else.
	And I think it's either on your Twitter or your OF.
	Just trying to pay for uni.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Which is the engineering you're pursuing engineering.
	Okay.
	And then I had a question.
	Let's pull up her TikTok, the first one.
	It's uh, it's interesting.
	I was, it actually, that's how I think I first saw you.
	It popped up on my For You page, and I was like, This is this is content, yeah, it's it's content.
	Do you have it?
	All right, so you just uh you eat food, you do food reviews, I do, and food challenges.
	Yeah, um, your most popular one is the burrito one, and then next tab audio and finish this burrito in three bites.
	This is sauce, and it's cat, just yeah, it's okay.
	Ready?
	How are you gonna finish that shit in three bites, bro?
	That's like that's at least 12, 12, 20, 20 bites.
	No, I think I could do that in four bites now.
	Why do you put cream?
	Okay, every chance if I know your bite is.
	Just stop that shit.
	Um, you don't want to finish it.
	Why do you put cream on the on the outside the burrito?
	It's queso.
	It's queso.
	That's queso?
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	I clearly don't know about case.
	Yes, I raw dog burrito.
	Whoa, what the fuck?
	Oh no, the chat's gonna get me for that one.
	Yeah, okay, that's cool.
	Yeah, have you ever been able to, in three bites, finish a phallic-shaped if you continue watching?
	I actually finished a whole corn dog six-inch or longer in three bites.
	Okay, nice.
	I know, good job.
	Thank you.
	Okay, cool.
	You said there was a date where the guy you went out with kept comparing you to fictional anime characters and K-pop idols trying to convince you to turn Korean as you looked the part already.
	Yeah, so basically, I went out on the state once with this guy.
	I think he might have been on drugs.
	I'm not sure.
	But he kept comparing me to anime characters.
	And I think it's because I'm Asian.
	Oh.
	Oh.
	Thank you.
	I wasn't sure.
	Thank you for clarifying.
	Oh, okay.
	But the thing is because I'm Asian.
	And he kept pulling out photos of like anime girls and like scrolling and like, oh my gosh, you look like her.
	Oh my gosh, you look like her.
	And then there are K-pop idols that he kept comparing me to.
	And then he was like, you know, if you like dress like that, you would go, like, you would be so hot.
	Like, that's my biggest fantasy, all this stuff.
	And he was saying to me, like, oh, you're not Chinese because I'm Chinese, right?
	He was saying, you're not Chinese, you're actually Korean.
	And I was like, I don't know my own ethnicity.
	Okay.
	He just kept saying stuff like that.
	Was there a second date?
	Hell no.
	Do you know what ethnicity that guy was?
	He was Korean.
	I don't like Korean guys.
	Neither do I. Chill out.
	Why don't you like because I just don't?
	Are you?
	What are you?
	I'm Korean.
	You're Korean?
	Yeah.
	You're a self-loathing Korean?
	Generally speaking, I don't like Korean guys.
	What?
	Oh, Korean guys.
	Yeah.
	Why?
	What'd you think I said?
	What do you mean?
	You said you don't, you said you don't like Koreans.
	No, I said I don't like Korean guys.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	Well, why?
	Why?
	Yeah, why?
	Because a lot of them tend to be like mama's boys.
	Really?
	It's like the culture they grew up in.
	Is that true?
	I don't.
	Yeah.
	Well, I'm Korean, so no.
	Do you have a brother?
	Yeah.
	Is he a mama's boy?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Wait, so There wasn't a second date, though.
	No, maybe in his dreams, but not.
	Maybe in his dreams.
	Okay.
	And then you said your take on dating growing up with your father spoiling you.
	You look for men who provide.
	You look for a man who provides everything.
	Yes, I look for a provider.
	Okay.
	Elaborate a bit.
	A provider, like someone who takes care of you, who pays for everything.
	Like, I know you're talking about the 50-50.
	If you couldn't find a provider, I feel like to me, it's like, I want someone who can provide for me just like my father did because that's my expectations in dating.
	And, you know, someone who will spoil me, but obviously I'll do my part as well.
	Because there's no, like someone can't just provide for you and you don't like expect to do nothing for them in return, right?
	What would you do for them in return?
	Like, the traditional.
	It might be a little iffy, but like, I would be a traditional housewife.
	Like, I don't mind that.
	Like, I don't.
	So you would quit OnlyFans?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	I don't mind being a traditional housewife, taking care of the kids, doing my part.
	Can you, um, the microphone's blocking your face a bit.
	Are you able to scoot in your chair this way?
	This way?
	Like, are you on the edge of the chair?
	No.
	Or, like, okay, then scoot your mic.
	That works better.
	That works better.
	Yeah, the mic was just kind of blocking your face.
	Go ahead.
	I don't remember what I said.
	Would you stop OnlyFans?
	I would.
	I would stop OnlyFans for someone like that.
	But so you said you want a provider, but like, you're 18, right?
	So what's the age group that you're typically dating?
	Or what date?
	Wood date?
	Yeah.
	I don't think age matters.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	But so.
	Like 80?
	That's my grandpa.
	What's the oldest you would go?
	Oldest.
	Okay.
	28.
	28, 30.
	Okay, got it.
	23?
	But would you date like another 18 or 19 or 20 year old?
	No, absolutely not.
	Okay.
	Because I was going to say, probably most 18, 19, 20 year olds are not going to be able to provide for you in the way that you want to be provided.
	And those are the men in your age group.
	Yeah.
	They're probably in college and don't have a lot of disposable income.
	Yeah.
	Or no disposable income.
	But, okay, so you would date a guy who's older than you.
	Okay.
	And you also, well, your father spoiled you.
	Yes.
	Question, were you born in Canada?
	I was, yeah.
	Okay.
	I got deported back to China for four years.
	Oh?
	You got deported?
	Like, not like actually deported.
	I got sent.
	So my parents gave birth to me and then they sent me back for four years.
	From zero to four?
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	So you probably don't even remember most of that, right?
	too the zero to not the zero but like the four year like like some of the three to four i feel like do you guys remember like stuff that like when you were three No, she's 18.
	Like I may be wrong.
	She's 18.
	I don't think.
	I'm 19.
	I don't remember anything.
	I mean, even when you're in your youth, typically you don't remember like early life.
	Really?
	I mean, like three, four, you can, like, I think you start getting memories, but I remember being dropped as a kid.
	In China or in my carry.
	Like, you know, those baby basket carry thingies?
	Yeah.
	I remember being a baby and then my uncle dropped me.
	You were newborn.
	Do you remember being a newborn?
	I was not a newborn like I was one years old, I guess.
	Okay.
	And then I remember being dropped.
	On your head?
	No, in the basket.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	I think she might have like made up a memory.
	Because memory is super malleable.
	Like you wouldn't remember something that happened to you when you were one years old.
	That's like insane.
	I have no idea.
	I just remember it.
	Like recall it.
	I'm not sure if it's like someone said it to me.
	Okay.
	But so, okay, you were deported by your parents back to China.
	Yeah.
	And but you were born in Canada, then you came back to Canada at four.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And then your dad spoiled you.
	Yeah.
	How so?
	Only only child?
	No.
	Okay.
	How many siblings?
	One brother.
	Okay.
	But how did he spoil you?
	Spoiled me as in, like, you know, I was very.
	Everything I wanted, I got in a way.
	But also spoiled me as in, like, protectively.
	Like, he was just a very protective father, and he spoiled me with stuff that I wanted.
	Like, he tried his best for me, even if he had nothing.
	Like, to me, that's like called being spoiled.
	Like, he would go through, he would climb a mountain just to like.
	Did something happen to him?
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	You asked the most random questions.
	No, she's like saying it like he passed away or something.
	I think she's speaking in past tense because she's talking about like her childhood.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, Tiffany.
	Wait, so okay.
	And does your dad know that you do OF?
	No.
	He doesn't know?
	No.
	What about your mom?
	No.
	Are your parents still together?
	Yes.
	Neither of your parents know.
	No.
	They will now?
	I don't think so.
	Not necessarily.
	Not necessarily.
	So nobody will recognize you who knows your parents.
	Some might just probably won't talk to my parents about it.
	Because I don't think people would talk to my parents, like people who recognize me.
	Right?
	Wait, so what would their reaction be if they did find out?
	The reaction.
	Yeah.
	Hey, mom and dad, I do porn.
	Um, I think it'd be very different with my mom and my dad, because they're very different.
	Yeah.
	My dad's more traditional.
	My mom is more.
	She goes with the flow.
	She goes with the flow.
	Okay.
	So, yeah.
	What would the reactions be?
	My dad would probably be like, what the heck?
	Like, why are you doing this?
	All that stuff.
	But eventually, to me, like the way that I grew up, I think they'd just be like, you know what?
	It's your decision.
	It's your life.
	You deal with your consequences.
	If that's what you want to do, then do it.
	And you deal with it, you know?
	Because I'm 18.
	Would there be corporal punishment?
	What does that mean?
	Like, would there beat you?
	Like, would they be your mom get the belt?
	Maybe.
	Okay.
	Do you have like a game plan for when they do find out?
	I was scheming in my head.
	I was like.
	I was trying to say like what I could do if that did happen like running a bunch of different scenarios.
	I think the best thing is to stay quiet.
	Avoid the beating.
	Avoid the beating.
	Yeah.
	Stay quiet.
	Yeah.
	Like don't tell them.
	So if your dad, if he was, you know, you have a conversation with him, he's obviously upset and he's like, I want you to stop.
	Do you stop or do you just say, nah?
	I would flash my bank account, maybe.
	You'd flash your bank account?
	Hopefully.
	Well, like.
	And what if he told you I can provide for you?
	You said he was a provider, right?
	Yeah.
	But I think that providing like takes its turns.
	Like, obviously, when I was a kid, he was providing for me.
	But now that I'm older, it's my turn to provide for them.
	Okay.
	So the money that I make will obviously help them too.
	Have you sent them any money?
	I've tried.
	What do you mean you've tried?
	They don't accept it.
	I guess they just get suspicious, like, where all this money can come from.
	I don't want to get beat.
	That's the main thing.
	I just don't want to get in trouble.
	Okay.
	Nobody else here does OnlyFans, right?
	Why are you looking at me?
	I'm just, I mean, I start my questions over here.
	No, I don't do OnlyFans.
	No, but.
	You said Fanfix once?
	No, I recently found out that my stereotype about OnlyFans and about how sexualized it usually is is wrong.
	And I really just realized that many people are using OnlyFans for irregular content in order to let the people who are actual fans of theirs to see more than they post on the social media, but it can be normal.
	So I definitely am considering this and I already got the messages from the people that admire my content.
	Like, hey, how can I donate?
	How can I support you?
	But with no weird shit.
	So this is an option, actually.
	didn't know i think though if you do want to do that maybe i think there's this thing called like patreon is that a thing Patreon, for sure.
	Fanfix?
	Yeah.
	Yeah?
	I don't know.
	Are you concerned about the reputation that OnlyFans has?
	I am concerned, and this is the main reason why I've never had it.
	But I'm planning on posting the videos where I'm like, oh, I created the OnlyFans.
	It's not porn.
	And also I want to probably edit into my bio.
	Here's the link.
	No nudes.
	You feel me?
	Something like that.
	So I did not want this impression really.
	I don't think people would want to click that link though, because I feel like the whole point of clicking the link is to say.
	Well, it's there.
	know i'm i gotta try it but i'm definitely not i'm not doing the explicit Wait, so you've already created the account?
	Yeah, it's empty.
	Oh, so you have OnlyFans.
	You've just, point of no return.
	You're an OnlyFans girl.
	Yeah, but there's nobody there.
	It's too late.
	No followers yet.
	Okay.
	Just create it.
	Huh?
	But you're not going to post porn on there?
	No.
	I mean, you might as well post it somewhere else then.
	Because there's a stigma.
	No offense to you.
	No.
	There's a stigma.
	No, I do not want to.
	Trust me, I considered that.
	Of course.
	There have been at least five times in my life when I was thinking, huh, maybe, maybe I can sell the explicit content.
	Five times you thought about that?
	Yeah, but five.
	Wait, question for the whole panel here.
	Let's go.
	I know none of you besides her have an OnlyFans, but have you thought about doing an OnlyFans?
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	What about you?
	No.
	Tiffany?
	Nope.
	No.
	Yes?
	Yes.
	No.
	You think about it.
	I feel like I kind of agree with that.
	I think.
	I agree with that.
	Well, I think most men like that.
	Like, you imagine it, but not with the possibility of you actually doing it.
	Oh, so you did imagine it, Tiffany.
	I think everyone does.
	What was that?
	Because it's so popular.
	You don't think about that.
	Oh, okay.
	You don't go into detail because you know you're not going to do it.
	But you just imagine it.
	Yeah.
	I think that personally, I have lots of friends who do it.
	And when you hear the amount of money that they're making, it's like, whoa.
	Like, whoa, whoa.
	Yeah, it's like a lot of money.
	But then me personally, I feel like that compromises my values that I live by.
	So I. Wait, what are your values?
	Just, I don't, I personally am not a sex worker.
	I don't judge people who do that.
	But I just don't feel comfortable, like, for lack of a better word, exploiting myself for an amount of money, no matter how big it is.
	Honestly, the bigger the money is, the more exploitative, exploited, whatever exploitative it kind of feels, I guess, to me.
	Just curious, can you share how much you're making?
	A year or a month?
	Both.
	Seven figures a year?
	Six figures a month.
	What's the most you've earned in one month?
	I started two months ago.
	Oh, okay.
	How much?
	I don't.
	Six figures.
	So that's your projected income.
	Yeah, from the rate that I'm going from the two months.
	You reconsidering, Tiffany?
	Yes.
	All right, we have a chat here from Lol Paladins.
	Hey, thank you, man.
	She's speaking weird about her dad who spoils her because she's fishing for OnlyFans Simps to spend more on her.
	It's a character like an actor.
	Do you want to respond to that?
	Fishing for OnlyFans Simps?
	Yeah.
	It's a character like an actor.
	Does that mean like I'm trying to act a certain way?
	Like I'm trying to portray.
	Well, I think he's questioning if your dad actually spoiled you.
	I believe her.
	Wait, I have a question.
	Did your parents like cut off financial assistance completely after you turned 18?
	No, none at all.
	So if your dad was like such a provider when you were a kid, why couldn't he?
	Why can't he pay for your tuition too?
	Well, because don't you want to take initiative?
	Like, don't you want to provide for your.
	Do you pay for your own tuition or your parents?
	And my parents too.
	So your parents spoil you too?
	Yeah.
	So is there no sense of like, don't you want to pay for your own stuff?
	You just want to live under their wing forever?
	Um.
	So that's a yes.
	I think I want to like transition from being provided for my parents to a guy.
	Oh, like I would not have a guy provider.
	Yeah.
	But to me, it's like, obviously, I want that too, but I want to provide for myself.
	Like, I want to give them money.
	Because when they get old, they're not going to be working.
	Then it's the kids' turn to provide for them, right?
	Yeah, I guess it's debatable.
	Yeah.
	That's all you got, Tiffany.
	Yeah, I mean, it's debatable.
	It's like, I think that's true in some cultures.
	Yeah, but you want to provide not through sex work.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Is that my understanding?
	Yeah.
	And I don't think it's the children's job to provide for their parents.
	I think it's the opposite way around.
	I mean, it's a gesture, but it's not required.
	We have another chat here from Lucas.
	Lucas says, you want a man who's a trad provider because your father, wait, because your father, was your mother an OF girl?
	You're a baby engineer, you're smart.
	Can you put what?
	Can you PT to the point to the inconsistency?
	Oh, point to the inconsistency.
	Trad men want trad women, not sex workers.
	So was your mom an OF girl?
	That's his question.
	And then you're a baby engineer.
	Point to the inconsistency.
	Is your mom a OF creator?
	Not that I know of.
	Wait, would you be upset at your mom if you found out she was doing OF content?
	No.
	Would you be upset?
	Not at all.
	I'd be like, go, mom, go.
	No shade, no tea.
	Get your bag, Fizz.
	I think that's.
	Wait, really?
	Would you do a features with your mom?
	That is.
	Well, I'm curious.
	No, I also curious.
	Not like sexual, but just like content.
	A feature?
	No, I would not.
	I think that'd be a little weird.
	I am curious because you said you're doing OnlyFans to pay for university.
	Yeah.
	So when is your quit date?
	My estimated quit date, where like, what I hope.
	Okay, I hope to go from OnlyFans to like an influencer because, you know, you're posting on social media, you're doing content, you're connecting with your audience and people, right?
	So obviously there's a little bit of influencing to that.
	So hopefully in terms of that, I can shift over in the next one to two years to like a full-time influencer instead.
	Okay.
	I have a question.
	Yeah.
	You've said that you would prefer if your parents did not know that you were on OnlyFans.
	And then you want to take the profits that you make from OnlyFans and be able to take care of your parents with that money.
	Yeah.
	Do you do you see, does that seem questionable at all to you?
	Do you think that that seems at all deceptive or anything that your parents would be taking care of with the money that you're making by doing actions or behaving in a way that they wouldn't approve of?
	No, as long as they're being taken care of, I think that's the main objective is to take care of them and make sure, you know, they're older age days.
	They live well, they're happy and all that stuff.
	Do you need Doc Venabili has donated $200.
	Yeah, thank you, Doc.
	Canadian China girl, just imagine the odds of her father accepting your OF lifestyle.
	Those will be the same odds that you will land a man that will provide for you as you expect.
	Quit now.
	Do you want to respond?
	You should check out my OF before you say that.
	Wait, wait, why would he have to check out your OF before you can say that?
	I like it.
	You had a pretty big reaction to that.
	What are your thoughts?
	To the donation and the comment.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	I just feel bad when all of that thing starts like, oh, you China girl, like you engineer baby.
	No, like, I'm feeling this, you know, toxic masculinity moment here.
	You think that's toxic masculinity?
	So have you noticed who's giving the comments?
	No.
	Okay.
	They've been pretty nice.
	Well, I agree with that, guys.
	They've been pretty tame so far, comparatively speaking.
	To McDonald's eyebrows.
	Lol Paladins donated $200.
	She is so full of sheet.
	$100K a month would give her a career.
	Yeah, that's exactly what I was saying.
	How are we doing it to survive and pay children?
	It's around for me.
	How much is tuition of UCS?
	It's worth a million dollars.
	What is it, like 40, 50K for the it's for no financial aid at all?
	It's like 40k for the whole four years.
	No, for one year.
	It's 40k?
	Yeah, around it's like 30, it's like 36k, and then with like other stuff you spend money on, it's like 40k.
	Okay, so you could be looking at spending like 100 to 150k.
	Yeah.
	And I also had a question.
	So if you can't provide for your parents right now just because of how suspicious they'll get, how do you plan on providing for them in the future?
	Well, obviously I'll have my ways like for providing for them.
	Right now I'm saying I can't provide for them because the money that I'm receiving, like I just started, right?
	It's two months.
	Everything's still new to me.
	Giving them that money is also a new mountain I have to climb over to, you know, start giving them more money and stuff.
	And obviously I've been like giving them gifts and whatever I can with the money that I do get.
	And that's less suspicious than, oh, hey, dad, here's 40K.
	Right?
	And in the future, when I keep making this consistent amount of money, there's going to be ways.
	Like, I'm going to be able to do that for them when I figure it out.
	I think the reality of the future is your parents are probably going to find out you do OF, which is like, whatever.
	And that's probably what it's going to be.
	And you know what?
	Maybe they come to accept it and you and your parents can laugh all the way to the bank.
	Right.
	Like, I think when you grow up being spoiled, you want to uphold that lifestyle.
	Yeah.
	So you also want to repay your parents for letting you live a comfortable life.
	So that makes sense.
	Wait, but your dad, he's a Chinese national, right?
	Yeah.
	Are you full Chinese?
	Like your mom's Chinese, your dad's Chinese?
	Yes.
	I mean, you're saying that the parents aren't going to accept it because they're laughing all the way to the bank.
	I mean, isn't like first generation.
	Is he a first generation immigrant?
	Don't read those chats, guys.
	Is he a first-generation immigrant?
	My dad.
	Your dad, yeah?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I mean, first-generation immigrants are typically pretty like traditional.
	Yes, he's traditional.
	So I don't think even if you make a ton of money, he's probably not going to be super stoked.
	Well, that's the thing.
	It's like parents, like, they're different, right?
	It really depends on the type of parents that you have.
	For my parents, like I said earlier, they'll probably just be like, you know, if this is what you wanted to do, we'll support, like, we'll support you.
	We won't be happy you're doing it.
	We'll obviously be disappointed, but we'll support you.
	And because at the very end of the day, like, they're not going to be the ones dealing with the consequences in the future.
	It'd be me.
	I'm dealing with the consequences.
	And they'll just be receiving money that I can make and give them.
	If you're doing OnlyFans.
	Grid One Motorsports donated $200.1 cent.
	Can we just stick to the fact that regardless of how nice she seems, this Fookin Kuhn sells sex online, which is DJ's Fook?
	Seems like you could also afford a real shirt and not in your underwear.
	You had a really big reaction to that.
	What?
	What's up?
	All right.
	Is it the toxic masculinity again?
	Oh, I definitely expect you guys to make jokes about the fact that I mentioned toxic masculinity, but yeah, we should get into that.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	To start off, I love men and I respect men, but the comments that started going on, guys, you just gotta take into the consideration that you have never been into the shoes of specifically this person.
	She's 18.
	She came from a different country.
	Well, she was born in Canada.
	I know.
	So what?
	Yeah, she's still coming from a different country.
	She is trying to, yeah, it's a different country.
	First world.
	So she's trying to change the ways.
	I understand how an 18-year-old woman like her, she's trying to change the whole pattern of the system that her life has been working before she became an adult, an official adult.
	We can judge.
	We can just say all of those funny-looking comments, like, oh, you engineer girl, okay?
	Like, oh, you Channa girl, all that bullshit.
	But I don't really think that this is constructive enough.
	I do not understand why those all those comments are coming from the men and very specific type of man.
	And this specific type of man is just usually not what I respect.
	It's just not the individuals that I would fuck with.
	I'm so sorry.
	When you say fuck with, do you mean have sexual?
	No, Regular meaning of fucking with.
	No.
	What's the it's just not the individuals that I would resonate with.
	You don't fuck with.
	I don't fuck with motorsports.
	Don't you use this word?
	No, no, no.
	I'm not.
	No, I know, I know.
	You don't fuck with grid one motorsports.
	You don't fuck with lol paladins.
	That's lol paladins.
	Yeah.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Yeah, of course you got.
	Grid one motorsports donated $200.01.
	My wife is Chinese.
	She has never sold her sex online.
	STFU, you slimy who.
	All feminism has failed you.
	Embrace the patriarchy and we will help you find your way.
	Oh, sorry.
	I don't believe in.
	I'm not.
	Like, I don't believe in God.
	I'm sorry.
	Wait, how did God have to do with that?
	I don't think he mentioned.
	He said the patriarchy.
	Oh, sorry, I misread that.
	You definitely believe in the patriarchy, though, because you said you wanted a provider.
	Yeah.
	And I feel like you're kind of masking this OnlyFans thing, like the intention of you doing OnlyFans as providing for your parents.
	But I feel like your parents would be happier with you just like quitting right now because you already made six figures in two months.
	So it's like 200k at least, right?
	So that would be enough to pay for your college tuition.
	But and you getting like stable, like financially stable from that and making a living for yourself through engineering.
	I think your parents would be a lot more happier with that.
	Do you do math at all?
	Like, do you take any math courses?
	I have.
	Why is that relevant?
	Because you're saying that I should go with OnlyFans, but like, you're saying I should stick out engineering and continue, but engineering is really hard.
	Like, what, what, what's your major?
	Yeah.
	Well, we're obviously we have different majors, right?
	Uh-huh.
	Engineering is really hard.
	You're telling me to stick out with engineering.
	Obviously, I want to stick out with engineering.
	However, there's like a million people racing to do engineering.
	And if I can do engineering as like a side, that'd be a bonus, obviously.
	Like, I can have OF and I can do engineering.
	That's double income, right?
	So who wouldn't want double income?
	So engineering is not your goal?
	Engineering.
	It's a side hustle for y'all.
	Right now, yes, engineering is the degree, like the major that I want to achieve.
	Obviously, if I can do this right now, it's gonna be a side hustle, right?
	Also, I do want to just quickly address.
	Hold on one sec.
	You mentioned like the soup chat, all the soup chatters and stuff coming in.
	You know, it's actually all women.
	No.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Yep.
	I saw the picture of that guy.
	It was not a woman.
	What picture?
	Kendall.
	He only donated $10, by the way.
	Yes, but like the TTSs, it's all women.
	Grid one motorsports.
	That one's a man, but everybody else is a man.
	Where's the button?
	Stop the cap.
	Stop it.
	Tiffany, you had something.
	Go ahead.
	If you already made at least 200K from the two months you did OnlyFans, how would engineering be a side hustle?
	Like, why would you ever need money from that?
	Tiffany Bosterjack.
	Engineering is pretty hard, though.
	People leave MIT and don't get jobs.
	Right.
	That's a very low chance.
	Most people who graduate with an engineering major get good jobs.
	Wait, but Tiffany, do you want an answer to your question?
	So your question was: okay, if you're just trying to pay the tuition, you already made 200K.
	That's your question, right?
	Yeah, my question is: was your true intention of doing OnlyFans?
	Is it truly to provide for your parents and pay for your tuition and make them happy?
	Or is it like for yourself and wanting to become an influencer and live that lifestyle?
	Well, obviously, there's like rows that lead up to that.
	So at first, I wanted to do it to pay off my tuition and provide for my family.
	And because you're posting so much on the internet and you're connecting with your audience, like I said, then it's going to start into, oh, you know what?
	If I'm already doing, if I'm already posting content and stuff like this, I might as well tune in to influence your life because there's not much of a difference.
	So basically, you kind of like compromised your values.
	I feel like you're making a lot of assumptions about somebody that you don't know at all.
	But that's just me.
	How?
	I mean, you're talking about her family dynamics, her personal values, her morals, her finances.
	I don't know her family dynamics.
	You did.
	You just said, don't you think your parents would think this or that?
	Like, do you know her parents?
	I feel like you're really coming for this girl.
	That was a good idea.
	And it's giving, honestly, is giving hater.
	That was a question.
	Are you hating?
	No.
	It's giving.
	Wait, so answer my question then.
	Do you think your parents would be.
	So are you asking about her family dynamics?
	Well, I'm not assuming.
	I'm asking a question, so I'm asking, not assuming about her family dynamics.
	I can see that side.
	Hold on, guys.
	Audio.
	Can you get the.
	Let me get this.
	Sorry, Doc.
	You think that you can bribe you our parents into accepting that you are a sex worker?
	A good provider husband will also be dumb enough to buy it.
	That sounds like toxic femininity.
	Toxic femininity.
	Wait, I have a question, Brian.
	Was this from a woman?
	Doc Venable, that is probably.
	I think it's a they.
	It could be a they.
	Let's not discuss that.
	Let's not disagree.
	It could be a they.
	And well met.
	Oh.
	Lol Paladins donation.
	Got a couple coming in, guys.
	Thank you, Lol Paladins.
	Stop defending this liar just because you share a gender.
	She said she made a million dollars, but that was a lie.
	Learn to spot a psychopath.
	We've seen many like her on the show.
	Oh, damn.
	Do you want to respond to the psychopath accusations?
	You're saying I'm a psychopath.
	Don't they say, like, it takes one to know one?
	Boom, roasted little paladins.
	Oh.
	OMG, shut the fuck up.
	Black shirt lady, she's 18 and wants easy money, showing her Vagina on the internet, doesn't have a tragic backstory.
	And even if she did, no one cares.
	Countless other ways to make money.
	Yo, Dayvon Jackson, just FYI.
	I don't know if you're colorblind.
	I think she's in green.
	Little spin.
	Yeah, it's a green dress.
	Look, it's a green.
	It's Dayvon, you might want to see an ophthalmologist or something.
	But yeah.
	Do you have a response?
	Black shirt girl lady?
	It's a green dress.
	That's all my answer.
	Wait, is it, or is it, was it you?
	She didn't say it.
	Never even said it.
	I don't think you said it.
	Are you talking to me?
	Am I the black shirt lady?
	I'm like, oh!
	I'm in a hoodie.
	Thank you.
	Am I the black lady in a shirt?
	Well, it's black shirt lady.
	Well, I don't know if we have.
	But you're the shirt lady, maybe black.
	There would have to be a comma after black.
	There's no, it's black shirt lady.
	If it was black, comma, shirt lady.
	But why would you be shirt lady?
	The shirt.
	I guess it is the shirt.
	But honestly, he's color.
	He's clearly not with the shirt.
	Let's move on.
	Okay.
	Dayvon, thank you very much.
	Law Paladins, thank you very much.
	Doc Vinably, thank you very much.
	Did you want to respond to Doc Venably, though?
	What did he say?
	He said, let me get this straight.
	You think you can bribe your parents into accepting that you are a sex worker?
	A good provider husband will also be dumb enough to buy it.
	Wait, what?
	Buy my own.
	Like you said, bribe your parents.
	Like, because I think he's maybe saying the hope here is, like, well, maybe they wouldn't be supportive of the nature of what you're doing, but by virtue of you compensating for that with the money that you're going to be making for yourself and then ostensibly providing to them, giving to them, helping them, that they would accept this otherwise objectionable career path.
	Well, I don't think they're going to accept it per se because this is a very, you know, explicit field of work and obviously it damages your reputation or whatever.
	So they're not going to accept it.
	However, I know that they're not going to accept it, but eventually they're going to come to terms with like, you know, if this is what you want, there's nothing that we can do to stop you from doing it because that's your life.
	And I'm not trying to bribe them.
	They, the most I'm trying to do is just help them, not bribe them.
	I don't say bribe because that sounds like I'm trying to bribe my parents to do this, like accept this.
	No, they don't have to accept it, you know?
	It's not, it's not their job.
	They're not doing that.
	Wait, so what do you think your parents would be more happy with?
	You sticking to engineering and quitting OF but not providing for them or doing OF and then providing for them?
	Which one do you think they would prefer?
	The doing OF and providing for them because at the same time, I'm going to do engineering, right?
	So I'll have a degree by the end, which will provide me money, but I'll also be able to provide them money.
	But you just said that they won't be accepting of OF.
	They won't be accepting of OF, but it's a better route to me personally.
	Well, to you, but which one would your parents be more happy with?
	I don't, I think neither one they would be happy about, but.
	Neither one?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Can I ask you a question?
	Yeah.
	But I don't want you to feel attacked.
	So my question is, if you don't feel like the mechanical engineering is going to be, it's just a side hustle.
	You might not get a job.
	Why not just focus your energy on becoming an influencer or something else that's more relevant to what you want to do?
	And then maybe you wouldn't have to earn money through OnlyFans to pay off your tuition.
	Because personally, I think that my parents would be more mad if I dropped out.
	Okay.
	It's, I don't know if it's like the traditional Asian, you know, stereotype or whatever.
	They want you to finish school, get a degree, have that paper degree.
	And it's obviously, everybody cares about the paper degree right now.
	And if it's not something that I want to do, it's something that my parents want me to do.
	So I'm obviously going to try and achieve what they want.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Did your parents influence your direction that you went with engineering?
	Or did you select your major?
	Who picked engineering?
	I think it was a bit of both.
	I think it was like a gigantic push of my parents saying, engineering doctors, they make a lot of good money and we want you in school for something that will make sure you live a good future so that you can have a lot of money in the future.
	So I think it's the push of both.
	And then, you know, eventually it was just like, oh, maybe I should do engineering because it makes them happier, you know.
	It does provide a lot of money.
	Something like that.
	Yeah.
	Do you think that your parents would be more proud of you earning money one way or the other?
	More proud of me, like whatever way I earn money.
	I just really encourage you to, I heard you say earlier that engineering is really challenging.
	And we become better people when we go through really challenging things.
	And I really, really encourage you to stick with it and even get through those hard classes and not beat yourself up if you get a low grade and just keep on going.
	Because I think it feels good when you're proud of yourself.
	Yeah.
	I am trying to do that though.
	Like I said earlier, OF is my main job, but engineering, like it's a side hustle, but it's a side hustle that I'm going to get a degree on.
	Yeah, you're going to stick for it.
	I have a question.
	It's just a random question.
	Because of your food content TikTok, do you do food content with your OnlyFans too?
	OnlyFans food content only.
	The food content was actually because I was trying to copy this TikToker.
	Alex was his name.
	He also does those food contents.
	And I was like, do you think I could do that too?
	And then that's just how I started.
	I'm here a little late, but I'm just curious.
	Pull it up.
	So how long have you been going to school for mechanical engineering?
	A year.
	You've been in for an entire year?
	Yes.
	Okay, and so you're going to be a sophomore here soon?
	I'm in my first year.
	You're in your first year, okay?
	So has it been an entire year that you've been going to school for mechanical engineering?
	All together, roughly around eight months.
	Eight months.
	And you've covered some basics, I take it.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Can you tell me what a solenoid is?
	No idea.
	Okay.
	Can you tell me what a capacitor is?
	No idea.
	First year is like the basic first year classes of math.
	We haven't really gotten into any of like the actual engineering stuff.
	Okay.
	Can you tell me what Ohm's Law is?
	Ohm's Law.
	I know this, I don't know it.
	Okay.
	Well, no, no big deal.
	I was just curious.
	So when you were, I was listening to the conversation back and forth about the parents' approval of the OF or not.
	Just a very, very quick question.
	Your father, right?
	Do you have a good relationship with him?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Does he know about the OF?
	No.
	Yeah.
	I didn't think so.
	And if he did know about the OF, you would be in big trouble, wouldn't you?
	At first, yes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's all I had.
	All right.
	I do need to read a couple of the chats that came through.
	We have Lucas.
	Chair two, you live in Dolulu land.
	Would you be okay with your daughter doing OF?
	Chair three, no more tame.
	What?
	Burger.
	Bugger off with the feminist shaming tactics.
	I'm married, soul 22 years, soul provider, son, daughter, two cent brain.
	Okay, thank you, Lucas.
	His question to you is: would you be okay with your daughter doing OnlyFans?
	Yes.
	You'd be okay.
	But it depends on what you did, because for me...
	Like what she did.
	No, for me, it's I'm okay with my daughter doing OnlyFans because I'm doing it right.
	But if it's someone who has a daughter and they're not doing OnlyFans and her daughter selling all that stuff online, they might not be as okay with it.
	But even if I wasn't doing OnlyFans, I'd say I would be okay because I have the same mindset where if that's what you want to do, then that's what you're going to do.
	Then you're going to have to deal with it.
	Okay, we have another chat here from Who Cares.
	Sorry, I have to step in.
	I'm a first generation Asian American not born in America.
	I did not denigrate.
	Sorry.
	I did not denigrate myself to do these kinds of things to make money.
	Your dad would disown you in a heartbeat.
	Your response?
	He wouldn't.
	maybe yours would but mine wouldn't do you think it'd be i'm like we've this conversation has come up before on the show why do you Why do you hide it from him?
	Come on.
	Because right now, I'm still unsure of how to tell him.
	There's obviously been plans of telling him and my family in general.
	I just, as of right now, I'm unsure.
	he's gonna be upset right yes he's gonna be upset but i why why is he gonna be upset Because his daughter is selling her body online.
	Yeah.
	And do you think any father ever wants that for their daughter?
	No.
	No.
	That's why he's going to be upset, right?
	Yeah.
	You know why he's going to be upset more than anything?
	This is what the chatter was saying is because you're shaming him.
	You're bringing shame to his family name.
	That's why he's going to be upset.
	Also, money.
	Right.
	Yeah, I mean, I think that perhaps this is a problematic idea in modernity for many women, but you can't buy a sense of family pride.
	And when you're talking about shame, men will pass on millions of dollars if it's from something that is shameful.
	For instance, if somebody offered to pay a man to sleep with his wife and was willing to give him $2 million, they're going to say no, right?
	They're going to say no.
	How is that relevant?
	Well, because somebody brought up money.
	Is somebody asking to sleep with her in real life or sleep with, like, that's not really a fair analogy.
	The analogy was about shame and money.
	The analogy was not In regards, well, I don't care what you would pick.
	It's analogous because we're talking about money.
	So it doesn't matter what you would pick.
	All right.
	So, but you know what?
	Why don't you pick the analogy then?
	And I'll just use that.
	Pick whatever analogy you'd like.
	I just feel like it's inappropriate to be discussing the dynamics of someone else's family, like I said previously.
	Why not?
	Why is that inappropriate?
	I just think, to me, if someone were to bring up my...
	Is that the first time you've ever done that?
	Just think.
	So, anyway, so back to where I was at before I was so rudely interrupted, I'd like to jump back into this and just tell you about the idea of shame.
	Yes, it's going to bring him a lot of shame.
	He's going to be very upset.
	That's all.
	That's why you haven't told him, probably, as you know that, right?
	I would agree with you on that.
	Yes, obviously, there's going to bring shame.
	And you're correct.
	That's why I haven't told him what I'm doing.
	But I don't know.
	In my mind, right now, I just want to be able to provide for them, provide for my family, even.
	Yes, this way that I'm doing what I want to do is not logically or like accepted in our generation, but everybody has their way of making money.
	And you know what?
	Like, I think if that's how you want to make your money, then just do it.
	Do what you have to do, right?
	Before you?
	Yeah, if your dad was a, if your dad was a hitman for the mob and he said, I just do that to support my family, would you tell him, you know, dad, I'd prefer you didn't do that to support your family.
	But would he stop?
	Yeah, I think there was a significant amount of pressure, social pressure from your family unit that it tends to change behavior, just like you have a family member who's an alcoholic or family member who's a drug addict or things like this.
	I think your family tends to care about your future a lot and they apply significant amounts of pressure to get you to stop and modify bad behavior.
	And this is why people tend to conceal bad behavior from their family, right?
	Because they know that they're going to do that.
	Well, if it gets to a point where there's a lot of family pressure and they really, really want me to quit after, say, a couple a year, they still encourage that I quit, then I will do that.
	I will quit.
	Tiffany, you had something to have.
	I just think you're kind of masking this OnlyFans career as something you're doing for your family when you're really doing it for yourself.
	Oh, fuck.
	Okay.
	Bob Evans, thank you for the gift of 20 memberships.
	Did you have more?
	No, that's all.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We need to get through a couple other chats here.
	We have Lucas.
	It's that orthodox, toxic masculinity that's keeping your country on the map while you're shamelessly, shamelessly spouting off your vapid nonsense and comfort respect.
	My wife is 100 times the woman you are, 100 times hotter.
	Is this directed towards you?
	Not my problem, then.
	Orthodox.
	Probably.
	Toxic masculinity.
	Yeah, because I was the one who started that shit.
	Ukraine Orthodox Christian?
	Christian, much more than Christian.
	Orthodox.
	Well, no, at the moment, the Ukrainians are persecuting Orthodox Christians in their nation.
	They've outlawed it, they're outlawing it.
	It's a huge political crisis, and we should probably avoid it, to be honest with you, Brian.
	Okay.
	We have RPR Aquatic.
	Thank you, man.
	Thank you guys for all the messages.
	So you're just going to get a degree and not even use it and just going to become an influencer with your OF symptoms.
	Yeah, that's just trying to cover up her being a sex worker and getting an easy way out.
	Do you have a response?
	I never said I wasn't going to use my engineering degree.
	I would use it if I had to use it, but if I had other ways, like becoming an influencer, being a big influencer, and that was my income, then I would just get that degree to make my parents happy.
	Okay.
	By the way, guys, there's a slight delay on some of the messages coming through.
	There's some stuff going on with Stream Labs and just some moderation that we're having to do on our end.
	So there might be slight delays on the TTSs.
	Lucas, thank you, man.
	Stop with your everyone is special talking point.
	You have a duty to your family name, to your future children, respect your lineage.
	I'd rather live the rest of my life in ignomy.
	Ignominy?
	Ignominamana?
	Than allow my daughter to do OF.
	Thank you, Lucas.
	Appreciate it.
	We have Lucas again.
	Wow, Lucas is on fire tonight.
	Just ask her the first derivative of 2x and then second derivative of 2x.
	Go ahead.
	The first derivative of 2x is 2, and there is no second derivative 2x.
	Does that check out?
	Isn't it just zero?
	Yeah, because there is none.
	Does that check out?
	I don't know.
	I don't know about that.
	Okay.
	We have Lol Paladins.
	How funny everyone assumes she even cares about her parents' opinion.
	This is probably the first time anyone has ever questioned her on anything.
	Toxic feminism.
	No consequences for the sisterhood.
	Wow, they are lol paladins.
	Your response.
	Or anyone's response.
	Your response.
	Your response.
	It's just, honestly, it's not even interesting to respond.
	I have no response.
	No response.
	I'm glad you donating.
	Thank you, guys.
	I just think, like, no one, who are we to judge her?
	Like, people become engineers to be rich, and you're skipping a step.
	And just because everyone doesn't agree with how you do it doesn't mean it's wrong.
	Like, we all have our own journeys to go through in life.
	Haters.
	Our journeys?
	Yes.
	I kind of want to let Andrew respond to that.
	Someday, love will find you.
	Break those, change that buck.
	Okay, sorry, your journeys.
	Yeah, that's true.
	I guess we all have our journeys.
	Some go through completely degenerate and horrific journeys and do horrible things to themselves and other people.
	And then other people go through journeys where they don't do that.
	So my preference is in the society that I live is that people don't do the latter.
	They do the former, right?
	All right.
	Well, that's it for the little super chat and messaging break.
	Thank you guys.
	Thank you, everyone, for sending those in.
	If you want, read is 100 and TTS is 200.
	I do have a question here from Stiffler.
	He says, ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10, starting with you.
	Rate your own looks on the scale of 1 to 10.
	10.
	Okay.
	8.
	All right.
	9.
	Okay.
	I have a question about this game.
	Okay.
	Is this the entire dating pool from age 14 to 80?
	Is this compared to people at the table?
	Is this compared to people my own age, age 41?
	Yeah, I would take a general sampling of all of the women who are inside of the United States who are adults, right?
	And we would, you can envision the question this way if it's easier for you.
	You're at a beauty pageant, okay?
	And there's 100 men, and they're all going to give you a rating based on that average of all the women who exist who are adults in the United States.
	And whatever that medium is, 1 to 10 is where you're going to place yourself.
	Four and a half.
	Okay.
	What would have your answer have been before that clarification?
	At the table, a three of women my own age, a six.
	Okay, all right.
	What about you, Tiffany?
	Eight.
	Okay.
	Ten.
	Ten for you.
	Okay.
	Six.
	Tree point sixty-nine.
	What's your real answer?
	Three.
	Oh, okay.
	Wait, so ten, ten, eight, nine, eight, ten.
	Oh, we got to rate ourselves two.
	I give myself a five.
	Andrew?
	Ten.
	Well, wait, wait.
	Why is everybody laughing?
	You don't believe me?
	No, I love the confidence.
	Oh, it's confidence.
	Is it objectively true?
	Well met.
	Lol Paladin's donated $200.02.
	I'm a hitman.
	I murder people for a living, but it's okay.
	Don't judge me how I make my money.
	Okay.
	So you think it's objectively true that 10 being the most handsome men who exist on planet Earth, that I'm in that same category?
	You think that's objectively true then?
	If you think you're a 10, then you are a 10.
	No, no, no, that's not what I asked.
	You didn't ask if I think I've asked you.
	Objectively, then I am, you think objectively that I am on par with the most handsome men on planet Earth.
	I have to see you standing up in person in front of me, but off the confidence, I'll give you a 10 too.
	Just like, okay, but what about the looks?
	You know, the thing we're judging, which has nothing to do with the confidence because we're judging the physical characteristics.
	I like the beard.
	The hair is fine.
	10.
	How old are you?
	Okay, great.
	So I'm, well, you know, it's nice to hear that I am amongst the gods, the Greek gods amongst men, the chiseled statues which remained of the abs and the, you know, the epitome of masculine, handsome energy.
	I'm glad that you agree that I am in that category.
	If we were rating confidence, that's a totally different scale.
	Like, I'm a very competent woman.
	My confidence is a nine or a ten.
	Yeah.
	You can totally give yourself a ten.
	Why not?
	Sure, you can lie.
	No, I don't think it's about lying.
	A couple of years ago, there was this.
	Well, okay, so what even makes the statement truth apt?
	Do you honestly believe then?
	Here's my honest question to you, right?
	I gave you the clarification.
	You have a group of men, right?
	A random sampling of men, and you're going to go down this walkway, and they all can hold up a sign one to 10 to rate you, and you're going to go off of whatever the medium is of what they rate.
	You honestly think that they're going to rate you a 10?
	That that's what the average answer is going to be?
	Who are you talking to?
	Yeah, in this case, I'm talking to you.
	Yeah, I do believe that.
	Yeah.
	What would you rate me?
	I think you're an average-looking girl, probably five.
	Okay.
	Yeah, well, the thing is, is like, I don't really understand why people scoff at that because we have to have an average, right?
	Like a mean that we can compare everything to.
	And I think that being put in the category of average doesn't mean that you're plain or that you're even bad looking.
	I think it can be you're very good looking as an average looking woman, right?
	Below average would be like very obese, you know, things like this.
	All the things which you compare aimlessly yourself to when you're comparing yourself to other women, right?
	You know what an average-looking woman looks like.
	You know what they don't look like.
	But for some reason, this has become some kind of grave insult to just say, hey, you look like a normal girl.
	Good.
	You know?
	But I don't know why there has to be this beauty-a-thon where everybody has to be amongst the most beautiful women on planet Earth, which, by the way, whatever podcast has the most beautiful women on it on planet Earth, all you have to do is ask them.
	It's true.
	I mean, we, as can be evidenced by the panel I've collected today.
	Yeah.
	Okay, go ahead.
	You had something.
	Go ahead.
	So the way that I feel like this topic or conversation relates to outcomes makes me think of this documentary or docu series that was on Netflix several years ago.
	It was called The Science of Sex Appeal or something like that.
	And one of the research experiments that they did is they had 10 men and 10 women, and they were all like, maybe they were all dressed in black or all dressed in white and they had like caps on.
	They were just very, they were dressed to be neutral human figures.
	And each woman had a card taped to her head, one through 10, and each man had a card taped to their head, one through 10, and you didn't know what your number was.
	And the point of the game was to try to pair with somebody, one man, one woman, and try to get the highest number possible.
	And obviously everybody starts to want to try to match with eight nines and tens until the eight nines and tens don't match with you.
	And then you start to accept lower and lower so that you can get the highest number so that you can find a match.
	Yeah, so this is, I've seen this experiment done.
	But there's many variations on it, but this is a basic sociological experiment, very similar to the Werewolf and Village experiment, right?
	It's the same type of game.
	It's applied to kind of figure out delusion or non-delusion.
	I haven't heard of that one specifically, but I've heard of games which were similar to that.
	And so ultimately, though, you find out that a lot of people were very delusional about what they thought that number was, don't you?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and you start to, I'm going to say settle.
	Right.
	And you start to learn what your number is.
	Couple questions on here.
	I want all of you to rate me on this.
	And I will not be offended.
	You can give me your honest, genuine rating.
	I'm not going to.
	Two.
	Okay, shut up, Andrew.
	All right, what about you?
	I'm a 10.
	I can say what I want.
	I would rate you six and a half.
	Okay.
	Three.
	Three.
	Okay.
	The 10 over here is lying, or not laughing, by the way.
	Remember that.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Eight.
	Eight?
	Yeah.
	Come on, bro.
	But if I'm allowed to say a little more, when I first saw you today in person.
	It was higher?
	No, That's not what I'm getting at.
	I had a feeling that in the past, you had a lower self-esteem than you have right now and that you glowed up.
	I do not know how it was.
	I have no idea about your biography or anything.
	But that's definitely a thing.
	Wait, pull up my old Instagram photos, but go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's what I sensed.
	That in the past, you probably felt less attractive than you became.
	And right now, that's for me personalized all the day.
	Yeah, that's just a lot of people.
	Yeah, are you psychic?
	No.
	Why?
	Just because that was your vision when you first saw him.
	That was my impression for sure.
	I had a glow up?
	Yeah, that's what I'm feeling.
	Maybe I'm completely wrong, but that's.
	I don't know.
	I had a fat up.
	I got chubby, man.
	All right.
	Pull up the Instagram.
	This is young Brian.
	F11.
	This is before.
	Is that you in the crop top?
	Scroll down.
	Scroll all the way to the bottom.
	Is that you in the crop top up there?
	Hold up.
	All the way to the bottom.
	All the way to the bottom.
	All right.
	You can scroll up a bit.
	All right.
	Keep going.
	Just kind of scroll up.
	All right.
	Scroll up.
	Scroll up.
	Anyways, yeah, there you go.
	Yeah.
	You think I'm better looking right here than in those pictures?
	Yes, my taste.
	I would not like you.
	I like facial hair, too.
	Volume.
	That's a plus for those pictures.
	Okay, I guess put that down as a W for Brian.
	Okay.
	What do you rate me?
	You're a six, but I also wanted to add that when I think of the scale one through ten, sometimes I've heard people describe the scale one through ten, like nine to ten is the top ten percent, eight to nine is the 80 to 90 percent.
	But when it comes to averages, that's not how bell curves work.
	There's a lot more people that live in the four to six zone.
	Like when it comes to like a standard deviation at zero, about 66% of the people are going to be within that middle average.
	Okay, I agree with that.
	What do you rate me?
	Oh boy.
	Like a four and a half or five.
	Okay.
	What do you rate me?
	I'll give you a nine.
	Bruh, come on, dude.
	I would.
	She gave me a nine.
	All right, what do you give me?
	A six.
	Gives me a six.
	Okay, what do you give me?
	Four.
	A four.
	All right.
	Okay, to the girl who rated you a nine, I have to ask: can you describe for me what an ugly woman looks like?
	An ugly woman?
	Yeah.
	Into the mic.
	Into the mic.
	Why would I describe an ugly woman?
	No, I've been talking about women right now.
	Mister?
	Yeah, I know.
	Can you describe to me, though, what an ugly woman looks like?
	Did you just describe it?
	Like, you do agree that there are some women on the planet who are ugly, right?
	No, I don't think any woman on this planet is.
	So then the standard is that there's no such thing as anybody who's so a person can be in a burn victim ward, half their face is melted off, their tongue is sticking out, they have a hunchback on their back, right?
	This person is still, you consider them to be physically attractive.
	I mean, yeah.
	Have you seen the hunchback of Notre Dame?
	Yeah, you consider him, you consider Quasimodo physically attractive, do you?
	Honestly, if he can be the lead in a Disney movie, then he is attractive.
	I think beauty is in the eye.
	Like, you have to think about it.
	I agree.
	Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
	So I'm asking, what is the least beautiful type of person you can describe?
	Because I would consider that to be ugly.
	The someone who's like evil.
	Like, I think if you're a bad person, you're ugly.
	Yeah, but what about their physical characteristics, not their emotional or innate characteristics?
	Like.
	Like, let's say a person was in a coma and had never spoken a word their entire life, right?
	So you had no idea what their personality was like.
	You could only see what they physically looked like.
	Inside of that situation, the person who physically looked the worst would look like what?
	I don't even like, I don't even know how to answer that.
	Like, why are we thinking, why do I think about pretty things?
	Like, why are we thinking about ugly things?
	Well, because in order to think about what is pretty, I think that you have to have the other end of the standard, which is what is not pretty.
	And so I'm asking you what a thing which is not pretty in a person looks like physically.
	Otherwise, how can we judge a standard, for instance?
	How can I judge your standard for what beautiful is if you can't tell me the other end of it, which is what ugly is?
	How could I ever judge your standard as being something which is in any way, shape, or form dependable?
	Okay.
	Well, I just think, Well, can I just say what I find attractive about Brian?
	Is it Brian?
	Or is it Brandon?
	Now, how about you tell me what you find unattractive about?
	I don't know.
	Like, I just find, I feel like my brain is at a point where attractiveness is really just based on the inside.
	Like, would you ask this question to Stevie Wonder?
	Yes.
	Stevie Wonder, yes.
	I would ask him, what does a beautiful woman look like?
	And he'd be like, well, I think, you know, he would dive into, you know, oh, I'm guessing that she has a voluptuous bosom and a nice rounded heiny and all sorts of different things that I'm sure Stevie Wonder would say.
	As my understanding was that Stevie Wonder had a way with the ladies once upon a time.
	So I'm guessing he had a standard as well.
	Okay, I do have standards and they're very high.
	But I just.
	Oh, well, I mean, what a shock.
	So you have really, really high standards for the type of men you will date, right?
	And so then we'd rule out all the types of men you won't date.
	What are the types of men you don't date look like by chance?
	Well, I know their pockets look empty.
	That's one.
	I don't like brokeies.
	I like a guy who's ambitious.
	Yeah, I know, I know, great.
	Just the physical characteristics.
	Okay, okay, I don't like guys.
	Okay, I guess for my preference, I don't like guys with blonde hair that much.
	Even though my first kiss was a blonde guy, but like, I want to have like, you know, a tall, dark stallion.
	You know what I mean?
	I don't like guys who look like childish.
	Like when you were younger, you looked a little bit childish.
	But like, that's okay because you're young.
	But like, I, you know, why do I have to answer what I find unattractive?
	So you don't like, so you don't like soft, doughboy-looking men.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Okay, great.
	So you would consider them to be unattractive.
	Yes.
	Okay, great.
	Now, can you tell me what would be an unattractive standard for a woman?
	Why does it have to be a woman?
	Like, I think all men...
	Why does it matter?
	How can you say what's unattractive in men, but not women?
	How would you ever judge what a beauty standard is?
	How could you endlessly compare yourself to women if you can't even tell me what an unattractive woman looks like?
	Andy, no, hang on.
	Here's the part where you bullshit me.
	I am going to compare myself to other women.
	Don't bullshit me.
	Don't bullshit me.
	Just tell me, what does an unattractive woman look like?
	I don't, I don't compare myself to other women for some time.
	Okay, sure.
	Okay.
	You're the only one on planet Earth who's never compared yourself to another woman.
	I mean, I wouldn't say never, but I just feel like an unattractive woman is like a really mean, evil woman.
	Like, I don't know what she would look like.
	Physical, physical characteristics.
	Physical.
	Physical.
	Yes.
	Like, I feel like, obviously, there's conventional beauty standards.
	Yeah.
	So, of course, like, we as women do things to make ourselves more attractive conventionally, right?
	Yeah, but how would you know what that was unless you were comparing yourself to other women?
	Of course, I do compare myself to other women.
	Yeah, yeah.
	See, that's a totally honest answer that I can respect.
	I understand that.
	Of course.
	I understand saying I compare myself to other women.
	That's how I know what the conventional beauty standard is.
	And that's how I know what's attractive or unattractive.
	So I'm guessing from your position, for instance, a woman who is like 300 pounds and 5'6, you would probably rule out as being particularly attractive.
	Yes, but I do think that like in this day and age, there's so much that you can do to you can make yourself attractive.
	Like you could start off ugly and overweight and you can do a lot to yourself to make yourself suddenly.
	Yeah, sure.
	I'm not disputing that you can't change physical characteristics to make yourself more attractive.
	All I'm asking is what is unattractive?
	What unattractive woman is like?
	Unattractive, I would say, is overweight.
	I'm big on teeth, so like mess up teeth, you know, acne, skin.
	I think unhygienic, like hygiene is a big factor of attractiveness to me.
	So that would be like clean nails, clean teeth, shower, odor, those things also play a role in appearing attractive, I believe.
	But of course, you know, like, do you do your hair, your makeup, your nails?
	And, you know, everybody has different levels of to do they want a full beat on their face and makeup or do they just want like a little something, you know?
	But like, I think, yeah, that would be probably my answer.
	Okay, so if a woman fit those criteria for what you consider to be unattractive, and let me just make sure I can go through the list, which I think is a reasonable list.
	Obesity, not very hygienic, which I think if you're if you're highly obese, usually you're not very hygienic anyway, right?
	That that usually goes kind of hand in hand.
	You would agree with that, right?
	Like gen, not more or less.
	More or less.
	Generally.
	Yeah, more or less, right?
	Lots of acne on the face, really bad teeth, right?
	All of these different things, gross hair, you consider all those to be qualities of an unattractive woman.
	So I would tend to agree that that's true.
	So would you say if one of those women then called themselves a 10, that they were delusional?
	That's my question.
	Yes.
	And to the 10, would you say that a woman had those characteristics and said that she was a 10, would she be delusional?
	Yeah, but it's okay to live in delusion if you, it's not hurting me.
	If you believe, if you are conventionally unattractive and believe you're okay to live in delusion.
	It's not my life.
	If you want to live like that, I don't care.
	Like, it really doesn't affect me.
	Would you prefer to live in delusion?
	No, I would prefer to live in reality.
	Don't you think most people will people.
	But it's also not my job to go up to someone who believes that they're a 10 and be like, no, you're not.
	Yeah, but don't don't delusional people affect reality with their delusions?
	I mean, that's literally why we lock delusional people up.
	I feel like in a place like LA, if you believe you're a 10 and you are clearly not a 10, reality is going to hit you like a brick wall, especially in California.
	Yeah, I agree with that too.
	But back over to the 10, just the answer from you.
	Would you say that if a woman met all those criteria for what she considered unattractive, that, and this person called themselves a 10, that they would be delusional?
	I would say they're very confident and they, you know, Dolulu is sometimes a salulu.
	If that helps you go through the day, you thinking you're a 10, then more.
	So they're coping.
	So they're coping?
	Yeah, like...
	They're coping?
	Yeah, they're coping.
	They're living in their world.
	And it's like, they're not hurting anyone.
	So it's like, they've already got enough going on.
	They're overweight.
	They have bad skin.
	They have bad teeth.
	They've already got enough on their plate.
	Like, let them have their little delusion, okay?
	Yeah, but how do they change those things if you let them live in that delusion?
	How do you change what?
	Sorry?
	How do they change those things if you let them live in delusion?
	If they want to live that lifestyle, that's for you.
	Yeah, I know.
	So I'm going to ask a question, though.
	Maybe answer the question I ask instead of the one I'm not asking.
	So here's a question I'm asking you.
	How does a woman who has all those characteristics but says she's a 10 and is living in delusion by your metric, how does she change these things if nobody ever tells her that she's delusional?
	Um, how does she change these things?
	No one tells her she's delusional.
	Maybe she doesn't want to.
	Who am I to decide that for her?
	Do you think that a person, because you remember how the gal, I guess from your perspective would be to my left and in red?
	Is that correct?
	Is that from your perspective to my left?
	No, I'm to your right.
	Uber, to my right, okay.
	So to the gal to my right in the red, remember how she said, and I agree with this, and I think you do too, that people can have all sorts of unattractive traits, right?
	And change them.
	They can change them so that they can actually become more attractive and live more fulfilled lives.
	How can they do that if you let them live in delusion?
	I think that there's like a gentle way to, you know, say if you're severely overweight, like you can come at it less from a superficial perspective of like the aesthetics of it and more so like, hey, girl, like you want to come to the gym with me?
	You want to, you know, like go get sweet green for lunch instead of whatever you're eating, you know?
	So as it turns out, it's not good to let them live in delusion.
	So you said delusion and that.
	They're not hurting anybody.
	So what's the problem?
	Well, they might be hurting them.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	He said, you're not hurting anybody.
	What's the problem with letting them live in delusion?
	We get to the heart of it.
	It looks like there's quite a big problem with letting them live in delusion.
	And you would say, hey, girl, let's go get a salad so that you can burn some of that fat off your body, right?
	That's what you would say to them, right?
	You wouldn't allow them to live in delusion.
	Apparently, you see it as being a problem as well.
	Isn't that, that's interesting, right?
	I think it's only a problem if it's somebody that it's a problem to me if it's somebody that I love and care about, because then there can be like, there can be like actual like risks and health issues involved with that.
	But if it's just like a random person on the street who lives in delusion, like that's not really affecting me.
	But if it's someone that I love and care about, of course I would like, you know, try and encourage them to be able to do that.
	Yeah, but isn't that a great cruelty if somebody is living in delusion and you're just unwilling to tell them that they're being delusional because you don't want to hurt their feelings?
	Isn't that cruel?
	Isn't that actually the worst thing to do?
	Isn't that the cruelest thing that you could do to a person is lie to them about their delusion?
	I'm not lying to anybody.
	I'm just like ignoring people on the street that I don't know.
	Like I'm not lying to them.
	I didn't tell them they're a 10.
	You're omitting the truth from them, right?
	And I'm guessing that if somebody- So you walk up to fat people on the street and tell them that they need to lose weight?
	Yeah, well, if somebody was, if somebody was walking down the street and said to a woman, she, let's say that she had a sign that said, I'm a beautiful 10, and she had all these unattractive qualities, and a guy walked over to her and went, no, you're not.
	You're ugly as sin because this, this, this, and this, and this, right?
	You need to change all that shit.
	You would probably say you're being mean.
	But that's not mean, right?
	He's pointing out this is delusional.
	How could these people change this if he never, if nobody ever tells them?
	There's a difference between being rude and constructive criticism.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but what if the rudeness, right?
	What if the construction, constructive criticism never jars a person out of the delusion, but rudeness does?
	So if somebody walks by and they're like, no, all these people are lying to you.
	They're bullshitting, right?
	They're all bullshitting you.
	You're not beautiful.
	You're actually quite ugly.
	And here's the things you need to change.
	And then you will be beautiful, right?
	Who's doing the bigger favor?
	Well, I'll give you an analogy since you love analogies.
	So Lady Gaga was arguably incredibly delusional when she went to NYU Tish.
	My brother went to Tish.
	So he knows a little bit of the backstory of Lady Gaga, aka Stephanie.
	There was, I guess she was super annoying in the program.
	She was in the recorded music program.
	She was still annoying.
	She was super annoying.
	And she would tell everybody she's going to be famous and that that's all she wanted to do was be famous.
	They actually created a Facebook group at NYU called Stephanie So-and-So You Will Never Be Famous about Lady Gaga.
	And clearly, you know, she was delusional enough and manifested that delusion into her current reality.
	So, you know, I do think that people are very quick to call a lot of people delusional, but there's also a sense of delusion.
	And I mean, maybe believing in yourself can be called delusional.
	So I think it's a very subjective, but I think it's very subjective.
	So when you utilize an outlier, like you say, one chick in a hundred million was able to become a massive pop star sensation, which is never going to happen to any of you at this table.
	It's never going to happen to anybody that you know, likely, right?
	Not saying it's impossible, but it's just the likelihood of it is not great, right?
	You would all agree that that's true.
	You're not going to become a Lady Gaga success story tomorrow.
	And if you did, it would be extraordinary.
	It'd be like getting hit by lightning twice.
	It's possible, but it's just very unlikely.
	So when you appeal to an outlier and you say, but some women can be delusional or some men can be delusional and still have good outcomes, I wouldn't even argue that that's true.
	But for the vast, vast majority of people, that's clearly not true.
	And it still seems to me that it would be a great disservice to pretend that a person is ex just to feed into their delusion, especially if you think that telling them they can make those improvements so they could get there.
	Like, for instance, maybe there's a lot of things there that we're not thinking about with Lady Gaga.
	Maybe people told her things like, hey, you need to stop doing this, or maybe you need to get this tummy tuck, or maybe you need to get this boob job, or you have to do A, B, C, and D in order to be in this industry at all.
	And I'm sure she had to do all sorts of changes to break these delusions, right?
	So, yeah, I'm guessing even from the case of what you're talking about, there still had to be some delusion breaking.
	But isn't that ultimately the least cruel thing you can do is tell people what the truth is so that they can take care of these problems?
	I don't know.
	Someone else wanted to say that.
	Like, here, I'll give you a really good example, really good example.
	Let's say a man is really attractive to you to the 10, but he's broke, right?
	Oh, God.
	Would you give him the advice that if he wanted to date you, he could go make more money?
	Yes.
	You would.
	So you think he's delusional for wanting to date you with no money, and you're willing to tell him the truth so that then he can improve his situation to get the thing that he wants, right?
	I mean, if he asked, but I wouldn't say it like unsolicited, but I would say it is slightly delusional, but that's okay.
	Delulu can be the Tolulu.
	Maybe he'll find someone that doesn't care about how much money he makes.
	And that is.
	Hail and well met.
	Lol Paladins donated $200.02.
	Dumb black shirt girl.
	Quasimodo in the Disney movie got friends, zoned and Esmeralda ended up dating the six-foot-tall Chad Hiro soldier.
	Even poor Quasimodo would be called an incel by the feminist.
	Your response.
	Wait, there's so much to unpack here.
	I don't know who these people are.
	I think that was to the hunchback of.
	Oh.
	Or who brought up the hunchback of note?
	First of all, I'm very smart.
	You said that the hunchback was extremely attractive because he was the lead in an animated Disney movie.
	Okay.
	Into the mic.
	Okay, wait, sorry.
	Can you go back to that?
	I need to read that one more time.
	Okay, I'll play it again.
	Hail and well met.
	Cheers.
	Lol Paladins donated $200.02.
	Dumb black shirt girl.
	Quasimodo in the Disney movie got friends, zoned and Esmeralda ended up dating the six-foot-tall Chad Hero soldier.
	Even poor Quasimodo would be called an incel by the feminist.
	Yo, Lol Paladins, thank you for the TTS.
	Sorry for the delay there.
	Have to do a bit of a moderation for tonight's show on the on everything, but okay.
	Um, okay, okay.
	So, I don't blame her for choosing the six-foot guy, and if she found him unattractive, that is that's fine, and yeah, and I'm not dumb.
	Okay, membird man donated $200.
	Thank you, Birdman.
	Describing an ugly woman doesn't mean that you can't find beauty in that woman.
	Finding beauty in everyone takes work, but denying unattractiveness is delusions.
	Stop being delusional.
	Yeah, and I can make this, I can actually form this into the easiest way possible.
	How many of you here have ever been on a dating app?
	Raise your hand.
	Not you, though, Ten, right?
	You've never been on a dating app in your life, huh?
	No, really?
	I'm old-fashioned.
	You've never been online and seen men who you have chatted with for dates ever.
	I mean, on Instagram, sure.
	Okay, great.
	And you don't know anything about these people, right?
	All you can see is their picture.
	You get a show of hands if you've ever rejected a guy based on their picture.
	Done.
	Everybody.
	So, somehow, somehow, we're able to ascertain attraction here.
	Isn't that interesting?
	But also, I would not match with the fish picture.
	So, that's not about your physical looks.
	That's about your activities.
	But, you wouldn't date a guy who's holding up a fish?
	No.
	You mean Jesus fish?
	No, it's just like it's just it tells me all I need to know about you.
	Like a bass, a bass fish.
	Like holding up a fish in your dating app picture.
	What does it tell you about them?
	It's just like the fish.
	Yeah, but hold on, let's let her answer.
	I don't know.
	It just tells me what I need to know.
	Like, if that's the best picture of yourself.
	Also, like, do you think I would be impressed by the fish, the size of the fish?
	What does it tell you?
	I don't like outdoors men.
	Okay.
	Well, this is actually kind of amazing, right?
	Because I think that you actually said, you kind of told on yourself there a little bit.
	You said, how are you trying to impress me with a fish?
	Well, not trying to impress you.
	They're trying to show you about them.
	They're not trying to impress you with her.
	They're not like big fish, woman-like.
	Woman-like big fish, now woman-date, right?
	They're trying to convey to you a thing about them that they are very proud of this thing that they did and that they enjoy.
	They're doing a conveyance about them.
	It's not to impress perhaps you.
	I don't really give a fuck regardless.
	Yeah, I mean, perhaps you don't, but it's still worth noting as we're talking about relationship dynamics that we're talking about the distinction in perceptions of people.
	I don't think that men post pictures of them having just, you know, killed a deer or holding up a fish or them in the outdoors to convey to you with grunting, me make big fish.
	Now we go back to my cave, right?
	I don't think that that's the point.
	I think that the point is that they're just trying to convey what they're about.
	That's all.
	Wait, and really quick on the fish thing, just show of hands.
	Who else here?
	If the guy has a fish pick, is that not about it?
	Not about the fish pic.
	Anybody else?
	Oh, you don't like.
	You don't like it?
	No, it's not in my interests.
	Fishing?
	Yeah, no, yeah.
	I don't think it's a lot in common then.
	Because he fishes.
	Yes.
	So wait, you're saying, okay, I didn't know this, but are you saying that there's an actual cheat code for men to rule out horrible fucking women by just posting a picture of them with fish?
	Correct.
	They can just rule out.
	Correct.
	By just posting a picture of them.
	That's all you have to do, baby.
	Why don't you like it?
	No, there's just one guy I know who did that.
	And it just didn't end up well.
	So that's just a question.
	Okay, and then you seem to be on the fence on this.
	Into the mic?
	I don't mind fishing at all.
	I mean, it's just I understand what you're talking about because most of the fishing pics, they can seem concerning for the women.
	I understand what you're talking about, but if it's if it's the fish picture with the guy in whose eyes I can just look and understand that, okay, I'm interested in that face.
	He's not looking scary.
	He's not looking unattractive to me.
	I can still swipe, right?
	But yeah, I kind of understand.
	Yeah.
	Why is it concerning?
	I didn't say it's concerning.
	You literally said concerning.
	Oh, sorry, sorry.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Because sometimes those fishing pictures, they, oh, it's hard to explain.
	Sometimes they show automatically a very low income, and it's not about stereotype with the, like, connected to the fishing.
	Absolutely not.
	It's just sometimes it's a very shitty taken picture.
	It's the guy just looking, you know, he's dressed in a very messy, weird clothes, and he's just like, you know, and it looks unattractive to me personally.
	Okay, hold on.
	Okay, let me stop, Let me simplify this a little bit.
	If the picture is well taken and he's holding a fish, is it still a problem?
	No.
	So it has nothing to do with the fish picture then?
	So it has nothing to do with the fish picture then?
	It's a very...
	So your criticism is not...
	It's about poorly taken photos?
	However, I digress.
	I kind of agree.
	No, no, no, no.
	Let's leverage it.
	I agree too.
	Sometimes the fact that those fish pictures are kind of like poorly taken.
	Yeah, there's something.
	But I think they're not going to be able to get a test.
	Okay, so it's your objection.
	It's a fish picture or that they're poorly taken.
	It's the whole aesthetic.
	It's not about the hobby.
	It's not about the hobby of fishing.
	It's about something else in the picture.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	So if it's not about the hobby, but it's about taking a picture and having the picture on the dating app?
	No.
	So what is the issue?
	Okay, I will try my best to explain this.
	Usually, the situation with the fishing picture is that, first of all, the way it is taken.
	Yeah, sometimes it's a very weird way of taking this picture.
	Sometimes it's a very bad quality of the picture.
	So if the quality of the picture is good and it's a fish picture, 100% okay, no issue with it.
	Absolutely not.
	Yeah.
	No issue with that at all.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	To solve this problem.
	I agree with her.
	All a man needs to do is get his trophy bash out of the river, run down, get his hair cut real quick and his beard trimmed, and then go over and have professional studio grade quality backgrounds put up, look into the camera with full makeup and hold the fish up without any waders on at all, and he's going to be in good shape then.
	I don't really like the fish pics that are taken in like the local creek.
	I want the big fish in the middle of the ocean.
	Yes.
	On the yacht.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	And no waiters.
	Absolutely no raiders in the picture, please.
	Okay.
	We'll come back to this.
	North Alberta kid, girl in chair one, clear skin is a good feature of physical attractiveness.
	Yes.
	Would you care to remove your makeup for the rest of the show?
	P.S. Girls, state your opinions without saying I feel like.
	I don't want to remove my makeup because the whole point is to make me more attractive because I'm self-aware enough and not delusional enough to know that like in order to make myself more attractive, I do wear makeup.
	So period.
	Okay.
	And then going around the table, kind of wrapping up on the rating question.
	Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time, starting with you?
	So you're 25, better looking at 35?
	I mean, no.
	Like, I feel like I'm in my prime right now, but like, I don't feel it will be a drastic decline.
	I'm very open to cosmetic injections, treatments, whatever, at that age.
	Yeah.
	And then are you better looking now at 25 than you were at 18?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Going to you, you're 18.
	Will you be better looking in 10 years' time at 28?
	No.
	I think that 18 to 25 is like a woman's prime.
	And obviously, like a lot of models and people who are older, they do look amazing.
	But I think that like there's like a time where you look the best.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I will be looking better than now.
	Okay, so you're sure.
	Yeah, so you're 21, so you'll be better looking at 31.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Better looking at 41?
	20 years' time?
	Ooh, probably a little worse.
	Yeah.
	Okay, but so better looking at 31?
	Yeah, I will be looking better in 31 than in 21 right now.
	Okay, so what's going to change?
	Just curious.
	I will feel even more comfortable in my own skin.
	I will be even more fit than I am right now.
	I will be even more committed to the routines related to the fit body and all the things that I will take air off regarding my health and my shape.
	And also, I just see the great examples already of the women that were not as committed to their own well-being in their 20s, and now they're like 34 and they're so much hotter.
	So I'm striving for that.
	I will be this way.
	Okay.
	You are 41, better looking in 10 years' time at 51?
	No, I think I peaked at 32, and so I think you're spot on with your assessment.
	And so you're 41, so you were better looking at 30, 10 years ago at 30.
	Early 30s.
	And then were you better looking at 21 than you are now at 41?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	But I think I was better looking at 31 than I was at 21.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Yes, I'd be better looking.
	So you're 19, better looking at 29?
	Yes.
	20 years' time, better looking at 39?
	Foster check.
	Compared to like 39 compared to 29 or 19 and 19 and 39.
	39.
	Okay, 30 years' time, better looking at 49 versus now at 19.
	40.
	Okay, 40 years' time, 59 versus 19?
	59.
	Okay, 50 years' time, 69 versus 19?
	19.
	So, wait.
	So 59 still better looking than 19?
	Yes.
	And that's so each 10 years.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Of all those, where do you think you'll be the best looking?
	29, 39, 49, 59?
	29.
	29.
	Okay.
	Because I'd have a nose job by then and I'd be skinnier.
	You wait, you what?
	You're gonna have a nose job by then?
	Yeah.
	Hopefully.
	What's wrong with your nose?
	Because I don't like my nose.
	Here, wait.
	Face that way?
	What is it?
	The front?
	No, no, no.
	Like the side.
	Show us your profile.
	You have an adorable nose.
	Your nose is fine.
	What are you talking about?
	I don't like my nose.
	You want to trade?
	No.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's my nose.
	Yeah, your nose is fine.
	I don't think getting the nose job, though, at 29 is going to make you more attractive at 29, though.
	No, I said I'd have it by 29.
	I'm not going to get it at 29.
	You'll probably get it like two years from now.
	You sided to the nose job as the reason why you will be more attractive at 29.
	Yeah.
	If you had the nose job now, would you be more attractive now at 19 than you?
	Yeah.
	So you'll be more attractive than that.
	You're more.
	I just don't have the funds right now to get a nose job.
	So you're saying the deciding factor there is the nose job.
	Yeah.
	And you will have the nose job.
	You're older.
	You have more money to invest in your beauty.
	Yeah, but you're just old.
	Okay, all right.
	What about you?
	Maybe she's going to be to borrow something.
	Okay, you're 25.
	Better looking in 10 years' time at 35.
	I think so.
	Into the mic.
	Into the mic.
	Yes, sorry.
	I plan on being better looking in 10 years.
	It will be really healthy.
	Okay.
	20 years' time at 45?
	Um, yeah.
	30 years' time at 55.
	Yes, black don't crack.
	40 years' time at 65.
	Yeah, my grandma's pretty hot.
	50 years' time, 75.
	75?
	Yeah, they're tied.
	75?
	Okay, I think I might be a little bit wrinkly and discrapped.
	But still kind of hot.
	But a little wrinkly.
	I don't know if hotter than...
	Okay.
	And are you more attractive now at 25 than you were at 18?
	Yes.
	Going to you, you're 35, better looking in 10 years' time.
	No.
	And then you're 35, but were you better looking at 25 10 years ago?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	You're 30, better looking in 10 years' time at 40?
	No.
	And then you're 30, but were you better looking at 20 than you are now at 30?
	Same.
	Was it same?
	Same?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So you're equal to how you looked at 20.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Discord, if you guys can do the age advancement on everybody.
	Oh, my gosh.
	So you said 75.
	You said 69, I think.
	That's when you're going to be the most babe status.
	Wait, no, that's not what I said.
	Or 59.
	I don't know.
	I went through each one and you're like, yes, more attractive at 59.
	It stopped at 60 and then at 70.
	59 is when you're going to peak, I guess.
	No, that's not, no, I would peak at 29.
	Okay, but you're better than that.
	But I'd still love to be able to get now at 6 at 55.
	Wait, wait, hold on.
	So just to be clear.
	Okay.
	You'll be more attractive at 59 than I am right now.
	Because of the nose job.
	Yeah.
	And you will now begin.
	And I'll be skinnier, and I'll be skinnier if you have feelings about your nose.
	Oh, no.
	Okay.
	That's crazy.
	Why do you disagree?
	Have you heard of this thing called aging?
	You know that aging thing?
	Well, I'm Asian, so.
	I mean, yeah, you're Asian, but my mom looks great at like 40.
	She's single?
	44?
	No.
	Okay, just.
	I'm a spinning image of my mother.
	I know exactly what I'm going to look like in 19 years, and I don't need AI to show me.
	keep an eye on the discord uh so we can get the age advancement pulled up uh while we're oh do we have Let's do it really quick.
	Let's do it.
	All right.
	We're going to really quick though, before we do that, low paladins had to chat.
	X used to take dozens to hundreds of selfies a week.
	I used to take about two to three selfies per year.
	These women spent too much time on Instagram and Snapchat and TikTok with filters distorting reality.
	That's Lol Paladins.
	Hey, man, thank you so much for the message.
	Yeah, there's a lot of filters being used.
	There's all like Lenza, all those like the AIs getting into the picture now.
	It's crazy, man.
	It's crazy.
	All right, let's pull up the Discord old.
	All right, next.
	She looks cute.
	That's before the facelift.
	Oh, whoa.
	She looks like a white woman.
	She became white.
	That's crazy.
	I think it's the contact.
	Asian don't raise.
	Okay.
	Oh, shit.
	Why does that look like a special shit?
	Oh, she doesn't like that one.
	Okay, next.
	Oh, my God.
	Okay, next.
	Okay.
	Damn.
	You don't look bad.
	Also, kind of white.
	Wasian, you're like Washington here.
	You know?
	No, I don't think so.
	You look like.
	Yeah, kind of look Native American all of a sudden.
	I don't know how they did it.
	Okay, what about her?
	This one over here?
	Oh, I look like my grandma.
	That's cute.
	All right.
	Next.
	Wait, did they?
	Okay, next.
	Whoa.
	I feel like they didn't really change the much.
	Yeah.
	You know, I mean, a little bit.
	So, is it better?
	No.
	I think that's it, right?
	Yeah, I look already 60.
	Oh, of course.
	Thank you.
	That was it.
	That was it.
	Oh, wow.
	She.
	She.
	All right.
	That's.
	Mother Time is not going to be kind to me.
	It's, you know.
	Really quick, just kind of like going back on the topic.
	Somebody sent me an interesting message here.
	I'm just going to read it really quick.
	This is to you.
	Hold on.
	She's capping hard Asian parents.
	This is from a Vietnamese woman.
	I know you're Chinese, but whatever.
	She's capping hard.
	Asian parents are strict AF.
	My dad would beat the shit out of me and kick me out of the house.
	I don't know.
	About the whole porn section.
	Well, I'm Chinese.
	There's a difference.
	Different cultures, right?
	Aren't the Chinese like more strict?
	What would you say is the stereotypical difference between Vietnamese and Chinese culture?
	I guess there isn't much of a stereotypical difference, but once again, it's really just how your parents are.
	It doesn't like your parents could be less strict on you, or your parents could be more strict on you.
	Your parents could be like they could eventually come to terms with what you do and some parents won't.
	It just depends on your parents.
	Yeah, I think that girl was, is it a girl that messaged you?
	Yeah.
	I think she's like assuming too much.
	Because there's always exceptions to the rule.
	I think my parents are Asian, but they're not that traditional.
	They'd be fine with you doing that.
	No, no, no, definitely not.
	Okay.
	But compared to other Asian parents.
	Before we get into the next topic, why don't we pull up Twitch really quick?
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	All right, let's get into some more of the pre-show notes.
	I do actually want to ask this because you brought up toxic masculinity.
	What is that?
	I would like to describe it this way.
	I'm a very strong believer in the fact that men and women really need each other, that we need to harmonize the overall relationship between each other as genders.
	As to the toxic masculinity or femininity, I believe that both of the terms are about this or that gender trying to bring another one down in this or that way.
	In short, I would just describe it this way.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, I want to go around the table on this.
	Wait, wait.
	Brian, I'm sorry.
	I have to interject, just very brief.
	That literally told us nothing.
	That didn't tell us anything about what toxic masculinity is.
	You just said that you're a complimentarian and you think that men and women need to compliment each other.
	That does not tell us what toxic masculinity is, though.
	Did you hear the last statement I said?
	What's the last statement you said?
	I said that either toxic masculinity or femininity is about one gender bringing another one down by any shape or form.
	Do you agree or no?
	Okay, but bringing them down how?
	Check the comments that were sent.
	This is what bringing another gender down is about.
	I saw individuals being targeted in those comments, not genders of people.
	I saw individuals who were being addressed, not genders.
	Did you see somebody say all women or women X, or did you see individuals being addressed?
	Individuals were being addressed, but would those people address those individuals the same way if they were male, for example?
	Well, now that's an assumption, right?
	So that would be toxic femininity, wouldn't it?
	Because the example there is that you're bringing down the entirety of men who are making those comments, and by literally making the false assumption that they're only doing that because you're women and not because they're addressing you, the woman, specifically what you said.
	Wouldn't you be engaging in toxic femininity by your own standard?
	Because you're judging men collectively based off of commenters who addressed individuals.
	That was a gesture of the toxic masculinity from a very specific individual, but I'm not generalizing and never have.
	No, you are.
	You're saying that it's toxic masculinity, right?
	That they are literally talking to only individuals because you applied it to an entire gender.
	You said, no, I'm not going to apply it to individuals.
	I'm going to apply it to the entire gender.
	You're being toxic.
	So, in other words, these people are engaging in toxic masculinity because they're collectively bringing women down.
	That's your claim.
	However, they only addressed individuals and not women collectively.
	So you would be engaging in toxic femininity by saying that, right?
	All right.
	This is your perspective, but what exactly I meant by my statement is that specifically those comments that we saw that were given to this lady right here on the left.
	That was a gesture of the toxic masculinity for me because such words as like, oh, Chinese girl, oh, engineer, baby, those motherfuckers would not say it about the men doing only fence and doing engineering.
	So now you're generalizing.
	You're generalizing and saying because they're women, X is happening.
	That would be a generalization about a gender, so therefore toxic femininity.
	Yes?
	You definitely are reversing it in the way that resonates with you, but I don't believe that this is what I'm saying.
	I'm not saying it resonates with reality.
	You said if it's a generalization about a gender collectively against another, that would be toxic femininity or masculinity.
	By you saying that by you saying that women are being collectively assaulted, even though an individual is being addressed, that would be toxic femininity by your definition, right?
	If the woman is bringing a man down relying on his gender, this is a toxic femininity.
	If the man does the same thing, it's a toxic masculinity.
	That's the same thing.
	Yeah, if women are bringing down women, that would also be toxic femininity, right?
	Of course.
	Undeniable.
	Okay, great.
	So then if that's the case, when you apply that a comment towards an individual is applied to all women, right?
	You're making a generalization about a gender, so that would be toxic femininity, right?
	I don't understand at what point I used the generalization when I described the action of the person below the comment.
	These people are only making the comments because they're women.
	So that person only made this comment because she's a woman.
	That's a generalization about women, right?
	You're only doing X because they're women.
	So that would be toxic femininity, right?
	I don't see it that way.
	I would love to agree with you, but I don't see it this way.
	I don't know.
	If it's just a generalization, a negative generalized stereotype about a gender, right?
	Then how is it not negative to apply what's said to an individual to an entire gender?
	So you're saying, he's not saying that to you, Tracy.
	Let's say the fictitious name is Tracy.
	Tracy, he's not saying that to you because you suck.
	He's saying that to you because you're a woman.
	That's a generalization about a gender, therefore would be toxic femininity by your standard, right?
	All right.
	Yeah, let's put it this way.
	No problem.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I don't know how else to see it.
	Would you agree that the same person who left that comment together with $200, that was impressive too for me personally?
	I don't know.
	Would he say something similar if there was a guy here saying just the same things?
	Well, see that, what you're seeing what you're doing there?
	So what you're doing is you're saying collectively, right, women are X and collectively men are X, right?
	So men are not going to make these comments if these are men over here.
	They're only going to make these comments if they're women.
	That is you making a general negative statement about men, therefore toxic femininity.
	No, this is not about me making a statement about all the men.
	No, I'm talking about a very specific.
	If you say that men are not going to make these comments if there's other men there, they're only making the comments because there's women.
	That's a negative stereotype about men.
	Okay, now I understand what you are getting at.
	No.
	Well, yeah, it's a double-edged sword.
	It cuts both ways, right?
	Right.
	I hope you can just understand that I was talking about The personalities sharing those comments, and this is not about all the men.
	And there is not any man who would leave that comment, you know?
	Not anybody male would do that.
	So I'm not talking about all the men.
	I'm talking about one person showing the toxic masculinity by trying to make it.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	You're saying that it's only because they're men that they're saying this because only because they're women.
	Yes?
	Because if they were not men and were women, they would not be saying that, correct?
	That's not what I said.
	But I'm not sure.
	Okay, so I'll just ask you directly.
	If these men who made the comment, right, were women, do you think they would be making that comment?
	They would still be able to make shitty comments, but not in this manner.
	Would they be?
	Would they be?
	Not could they?
	Would they?
	They would be definitely some of them at least.
	They would be similar to what we heard at the table when we were discussing it.
	There would be many.
	This is how I vision it.
	There would be females that would say, oh, yeah, I hope your daddy's going to find out and he will be embarrassed of you.
	And like, oh, you're a sla.
	It's going to be also a matter of time.
	How would that be toxically?
	Then how would that be toxic masculinity?
	That would be a toxic femininity.
	Are you talking about women right now?
	No, how would it be toxic masculinity if you said that's toxic masculinity?
	Because if that were men, if that was a man sitting there instead of a woman, they would not be making these comments, right?
	They would make something else, and depends on who it's coming from.
	I would definitely state, okay, this is also toxic femininity or masculinity.
	I need you guys to make your final points here on this.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I just, I'm still, I'm still not very clear on.
	So to me, it just seems like any general statement which is made about any gender is toxic femininity or masculinity.
	So you kind of lose both ways here.
	Because if you're making the claim that the chatter is only saying this because they're men, that would be toxic femininity.
	And if you're making the claim that the chatter is saying this to them only because they're women, that would also be toxic femininity.
	It would be a general statement either way.
	I have no problem accepting your point.
	It was just not exactly what I was saying.
	Okay, I'm just trying to make sure that I'm clear on what you're saying.
	All right.
	All right.
	So, okay, let's get into some of the pre-show notes here.
	Going to Sylvie here from how?
	Silly.
	Silly?
	Why is there a V in your name?
	No, I don't have a V in my name.
	Isn't it in your Instagram?
	No, it's Silly.
	VP.
	VV?
	VP.
	Is there a V?
	In my last name, there is.
	Okay, whatever.
	Why is monogamy?
	You said, why is monogamy, traditional life, the way to go?
	Yes.
	So, like, 30, 40 years ago, it was the way to go, but now I see much more girls doing OnlyFans.
	And like a lot of marriages, like they divorce a lot.
	So why should we still are you monogamous with your current to your relationship?
	Kind of.
	Wait, hold on.
	What do you mean, kind of?
	We do what we want, but we tell each other we are honest about it.
	You're honest about it.
	So you sleep with other men?
	No, I'm really bad at it.
	He can do what he wants, and I can do what I want, but we just suck at it.
	What do you mean you suck at it?
	Yeah, I don't sleep with other men.
	What's that?
	I don't sleep with other men.
	But you can.
	Yes.
	And your boyfriend can sleep with other women.
	Yes.
	Has he?
	No.
	Okay, you guys have been together for two years.
	Has he slept with any other women?
	No.
	Have you slept with any other men?
	No.
	But it's a.
	You have an open relationship, you're just really bad at it using your own words.
	Yes.
	So I find this a bit difficult to believe, so you don't get hit on at all?
	Yes, I do.
	And you reject them?
	Yes.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	I don't have to.
	Why do you reject them?
	Because it doesn't click.
	So you're saying there's not been any opportunity, you haven't found any one guy attractive?
	Enough to go to bed with.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay, but if an attractive enough man did, are you on birth control?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Would you have unprotected sex with a stranger?
	No, probably not.
	Probably not.
	Okay, but maybe.
	I'm assuming you have unprotected sex with your partner, though?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	He would have no issue with you sleeping with another woman.
	He would.
	Or sorry, excuse me, another man.
	Yeah.
	He would not have a problem with it if I'm honest?
	Yes.
	Okay, and so if you saw him sleep with another woman, you wouldn't feel any type of way?
	I don't want to see him.
	Okay, well, let's say you didn't see it, but you knew that he slept with another woman.
	He can do that, yeah.
	problem whatsoever it it will hurt when he says it for like five minutes but for five minutes why would Why would you open yourself up to this kind of hurt?
	Because it's five minutes and I'm not perfect, so why should I understand that I am?
	He's totally fine.
	He'd be totally fine with you getting fucked by another man.
	If I'm honest about it, yes.
	Is this a cuck?
	Is he a cuck for this, or is it like an open relationship?
	I don't know if it's cuck.
	I mean, I don't approve of it, but it doesn't stimulate me to it, but it's okay.
	It's better than cheating, right?
	Do you want to get married?
	No.
	Do you want to have kids?
	No.
	Okay.
	Ever?
	Yeah, never.
	Okay.
	No kids.
	Well, I mean, do you think he's ever lied to you that maybe he has hooked up with a chick, but he just never told you?
	No, I don't think so.
	Are you guys on dating apps?
	No.
	Why not?
	I don't like it to just judge on a picture.
	Is that against the rules for you guys to be on dating apps?
	No.
	How did you guys meet?
	In the game store.
	Oh, it was the game store.
	Okay.
	And so you're asking why it's the way to go.
	I mean, would you at least concede that when it comes to STDs, monogamy is probably superior than open relationships?
	STDs are sexually transmitted diseases.
	Yeah, it's not stimulating, but if you cheat, you're doing that as well, right?
	Yeah, but assuming there is no cheating.
	Yes, then it's perfect.
	Then traditional is the way to go.
	Okay.
	So it is the way to go under that circumstance.
	Yes, but the STD argument isn't compelling enough for you.
	I just don't see it at this time that there is a marriage without cheating or without divorce.
	Okay.
	So why is monogamy the way to go?
	And then why is traditional life the way to go?
	So are you talking, when you say traditional life, you mean more traditional gender roles, too?
	I meant monogamy.
	Oh, you're speaking strictly just about monogamy?
	Yes.
	And traditional in the way of marriage, like with one man or woman.
	Andrew, you have something on this?
	Yeah, I'm not sure I understand it completely.
	Maybe you can just rephrase it for me.
	Well, so she's in her notes, she said, or she asked, why is monogamy traditional life the way to go?
	She is in an open relationship with her boyfriend, although they suck at it.
	So neither of them are cheating.
	But they could.
	You haven't done anything yet.
	Yeah, sexy.
	Yeah, you've got to open it up with another girl or another guy, another girl, right?
	Me?
	Or him?
	No, I don't think they would do threesomes.
	Would you do threesomes?
	We would be open to it, but yeah, with a guy or a girl, though?
	I think at first a girl.
	Yeah, of course.
	It's always a girl.
	And then if you're opening up your relationship, was it his idea or your idea?
	Both.
	Yeah, okay.
	It's always, they always say both, but somebody had the original idea and brought it up.
	Which one of it?
	Which one?
	Which one?
	Was it him or you?
	I don't remember.
	Really?
	It's a pretty, that's a pretty pivotal conversation to not remember.
	You both just had the same epiphany.
	You were eating your Cheerios together and drinking coffee, and you both looked right at each other at exactly the same time and were like, hey, I want to fuck other people.
	Like that, of course, that didn't happen, right?
	So what happened was one of you brought it up and you began to discuss it, right?
	So which one of you brought it up?
	We started the relationship with the same vision.
	So he's never closed.
	One of you still brought it up.
	It was never closed from the get-go.
	No.
	It was never monogamous.
	Okay.
	Yeah, so you met each other and then over dinner or whatever.
	Yes.
	One of you still brought it up.
	Which one of you brought it up?
	I don't know.
	One of us brought it up and the other one said, oh, yeah, I'm like that as well.
	Okay.
	So you're intent.
	Is this the first time you've been in an open relationship?
	No.
	And how many other ones have you been in?
	One.
	And how come that one didn't work out?
	I changed.
	Did you cheat?
	What does that mean?
	Yeah, what does that mean you changed?
	I was at home a lot, and then after COVID, I didn't want to be anymore, and he wanted, so it didn't work.
	Did you ever actually have other partners?
	No, but he did.
	Oh, I see.
	He had other partners.
	And you broke up with him, right?
	Yes.
	Yeah, of course.
	So, yeah, that's why it doesn't work.
	That's why it doesn't work.
	Because the guy, the second the guy has another interest in another woman.
	That's why open relationships fail, by the way, 95% of the time.
	95%.
	They have a 95% failure rate.
	And the other 5% are just waiting to be added to the 95%.
	Go ahead.
	Did you have a monogamous relationship before this one?
	Yeah.
	Did it end?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so it doesn't work either, right?
	Yeah, but that's not why it ended.
	I didn't say that the.
	Yes, but conveniently enough, anytime in those relationships that one partner begins to express interest in somebody who's external to the relationship, that relationship ends.
	Monogamous relationships, they end for different reasons.
	So while I'll grant logically to you that because there's a correlatory that both end, right, therefore we're on equal footing, that's not actually true because the reason why it's reported that these end in the open relationship is because one partner expresses interest in another one outside of the primary.
	I did end a relationship, so, and he was with someone else during our relationship.
	So I don't know what you're saying.
	He didn't.
	Yeah, I'm just saying that conveniently enough, the most widely reported reason that open relationships in is because the man begins to find significant amounts of interest in a woman other than the one he's in the primary relationship with.
	That could be, yeah.
	And if it's the relationship I have now, I have no problem with it, with breaking it up because I'm not perfect and someone else can be for him.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Right?
	I mean, that makes total sense to me.
	You know what I mean?
	But if you want to know why monogamy is optimal, it's because it allows for every man to have a partner, every ugly man to have an ugly woman, and every beautiful man to have a beautiful woman, right?
	It allows for that, instead of allowing the beautiful women or beautiful men to absorb up all of the ugly and beautiful people, right?
	Which is what you tend to see in hypergamous nations.
	So monogamy offsets this and creates the most stable societies that we have.
	That's why it's always been illegal.
	The United Nations is against it.
	They're pro-monogamy for just this reason.
	And generally, it's not a thing that we should promote inside of society.
	Now, if you're asking for a reason for why you shouldn't be monogamous from a secular standpoint, that's the only reason I can give you because honestly, I just don't give a shit what securists do because it's all just based on some whim and preference.
	I have nothing against monogamy, by the way.
	I think if it's what you agree on with your partner, it's beautiful.
	Wait, is your boyfriend with you here?
	No.
	Oh, yeah, on holiday, yeah.
	He's not.
	What do you mean?
	He's in town.
	No, I mean, is he like he came with you on this trip to America?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I see.
	Okay, cool.
	We have a couple chats.
	I'm going to assign you as official chat reader for the rest of the show.
	You get to read the chats.
	Okay, so I'm going to pull it up and you go ahead and read them.
	Feminists, you obviously never watch this podcast.
	Chats also make fun of the small number of stupid men that Brian brings into the podcast.
	Shocking, but ugly, logical men don't get YouTube views.
	Oh.
	I mean, I'm an ugly, logical man, and I get YouTube views.
	Also, Chad makes fun of me the most of anybody.
	I get made fun of the most by the chat.
	I would say I'm number two.
	Yeah, I get, bro, the comments.
	I get the most criticism of everybody.
	You should see the comments.
	So Lol Paladins, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	We have five more coming.
	Go ahead.
	Thank you, Lucas.
	True, chair three.
	Oh, chair three.
	You're the lot someone, the exemplar of why there is no harmony between the genders.
	Only my wife/slash daughter.
	You're right.
	I wouldn't.
	What does that say?
	I wouldn't treat men the same.
	He says, I'd punch him in the face.
	All right, Lucas.
	Thank you for the message.
	Appreciate it.
	We have another one here coming in in just a moment from Captain Awesome.
	It's coming in just a sec.
	There it is.
	Thank you, Captain.
	Stay at home married mothers report being happy 17 to 80%.
	Married career women report 65 to 75 percent.
	Single career women report 55 to 65 percent.
	Single women report 40 to 50 percent.
	Why don't women learn to be wives?
	Is that coming from a man?
	That probably is a dude.
	Sure.
	Sure.
	Wait, scoot into the table, please.
	You're too far.
	Scoot the chair in.
	I'm here.
	Okay.
	Three more.
	I bet Blue's boyfriend's white.
	How could I guess that?
	She's one of those self-hating Asian girls that white worship.
	That's why she wants to pay for a white nose job.
	A shame for her.
	Actually, plastic surgery is like super Asian, especially in Korea.
	Is this a guy?
	That's common everywhere.
	D's Nates?
	Yeah, that's probably a guy.
	Are you white?
	Do you want her?
	Is that why you're criticizing her?
	Do you want?
	I mean, she's got boyfriends.
	Exactly.
	Are you jealous?
	Do you have more of a response, Tiffany?
	What part of what I said was self, like, self-hating?
	Well, you said you don't like Korean men?
	Was it?
	Generally, yeah.
	I know how they are.
	You know what?
	Every single time somebody has a criticism, instead of responding to the criticism, criticizing them based on the criticism, women tend to just instantly go to, oh, yeah, don't you want to fuck me?
	Why do they do that?
	I don't get that.
	I've never understood that, oh, yeah, well, don't you want to fuck me?
	I don't get that.
	Like, it's like your knee-jerk reaction was to be like, oh, yeah, you want to fuck her, don't you?
	I'm like, what?
	Where does that come from?
	Where does that come from?
	Every single time, if anybody has a criticism, right, the like low-tier woman response is, just because you want to have sex with them, right?
	And it's just, I just don't get it.
	Maybe he's Asian and he's mad that Asian women don't really like other Asian men.
	Is that generally?
	Yeah.
	Is that a thing?
	Well, Asian American women tend to choose white men over Asian women.
	Do you have a preference?
	I prefer Asian men.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	You don't date Asian men?
	I would.
	But your boyfriend's white.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	First ever boyfriend?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	We have multiple.
	Wait, go ahead.
	Read this one.
	I like to see her boyfriend on this show.
	I bet he has extremely low self-esteem.
	I bet he thinks that if he doesn't allow her to be an open relationship, that she wouldn't be faithful, anyways.
	This is to you.
	Yeah, we do it because it gives room.
	Wait, hold on.
	Do we invite, would he come on the show?
	No, I don't want to.
	I don't want him to.
	I mean, look, Andrew, what do you do?
	A good idea, Andrew, if we invited the boyfriend to come on and we could ask him like, you know, just he's the magic the gathering guy.
	Yeah.
	And then you can put a bunch of things to bed at the same time.
	Wow.
	See that the super chatters are just as mean to the men as they are the women.
	In fact, more so mean to the men, just so you know.
	And then, you know, my kind of other follow-up before that chat came in was, I think that when women do that, like you did, the knee-jerk reaction of, don't you just want to fuck her, though?
	I think the reason that they do that is because they seem to only put their evaluation and currency on that one thing.
	And I think that that actually is the best way to devalue yourself possible.
	So he's, can we get him on, you think, or no?
	Like, no?
	No, maybe a little later, like we could just have him join the panel for 30 minutes or something.
	Today or today, right, tonight, yeah.
	That would have to be tonight.
	I can ask him, but you'll have him.
	By the way, we're going to do a little pizza party here in about 20 minutes.
	I sent my team when I'm not there again.
	Look, Andrew, we had pizza when you were here, okay?
	Listen, you got to come back in studio, Andrew, and then we'll get you as much pizza.
	I'll get you some pineapple pizza.
	Next time you're in studio, Andrew, I'm only ordering pineapple pizza.
	And you have to eat it.
	So you never want me to come back to the studio?
	I guess not.
	And then we have three.
	Actually, hold on, we got this and then two more chats.
	Doc Venability donated $200 for the record by TTSD on this show, criticizing Adam 22 and other cooks for their OF participation.
	Also, Brixon's flannel keeps his slash hat from running the dwarf Asian chick he craves.
	Shit.
	Doc Venablis, thank you, man.
	First off, I will date dwarves of any race.
	Get it fucking straight, bro.
	But look, my top two picks are white and Asian.
	Dwarves.
	Dwarves.
	I'll also date a Latina dwarf.
	I'll date a black dwarf, but I'll also date a Native American dwarf.
	But what?
	Yeah.
	Wait, why or?
	No, you were like, I did a black dwarf, but, and then you cut off.
	Look, Tiffany.
	I know you like to talk about race.
	But what?
	Yeah.
	I have a totem pole of preferences when it comes to what I'm attracted to.
	I just feel like you were going to say something in dwarves.
	In dwarves.
	Only in dwarves.
	Yeah, yes.
	He has a dwarf totem problem.
	In regular sized women, it's the reverse.
	Just kidding.
	It's actually not.
	Where were we?
	Do any of you know a female dwarf though?
	Because I'm like trying to, you know?
	Trying to link.
	I'm trying to.
	Do you know dwarf?
	I feel like you might know dwarfs.
	I'm a dwarf.
	You're a dwarf.
	Do you need somebody to picture wiring or what, Ryan?
	Wait, why?
	This is really offensive.
	what you're doing to the little person community you're like i'm what were what were the faces you're making Oh, I was just full of shit, actually.
	I did not even realize what that word means.
	I'm so.
	No, I'm a little dwarf.
	No.
	That's bullshit.
	Wow.
	Little people labia matters.
	Yeah.
	I mean, no, no, no.
	I'm not that short, but I love short people.
	Big little people labia.
	Short camp.
	If she's an Asian dwarf.
	If she's an Asian dwarf with a big labia.
	Wow.
	Magic combination for you.
	Huge.
	Hot.
	Huge.
	I only date women with a large labia.
	Period.
	Is that self-assessed?
	Is it what?
	Is that a self-assessment of the size of their labia?
	Or do you like, do you have to do an examination first to get on your website?
	Well, I've actually been catfished by a girl before.
	Like, this girl slid into my DMs and she's like, hey, Brian, I've got an Audi.
	And then I was like, okay.
	And I didn't ask.
	I didn't get the verification before.
	You know?
	Like, she didn't verify.
	Like, I didn't get a picture.
	I just took her word for it.
	And then, like, when it came down to like business time or whatever, wait, not business.
	What?
	What's the word?
	What's the word for like?
	Cardinal knowledge.
	Well, yes, but like I was thinking, what?
	Pretty unbelievable how you're always going after the 0.1% of the population, Brian.
	only a dwarf but a dwarf with a one inch labia really that's 00.1 percent one inch is too small andrew get it illusional one in What was I saying?
	Yeah no, I got catfished.
	It was like a, it was like any midi, it was like it was not Naudi and I was like damn, did you walk out on her?
	Oh my gosh for lying.
	Actually, I chose not to hit, but it wasn't because of that.
	We just didn't get along.
	I thought we talked about the car at first, the what oh, Outie?
	That's what I heard at first.
	No, definitely not Naudi.
	Okay anyways, what the damn bro?
	Why you guys gotta bring up the Labia stuff all the time?
	Shit, i'm just trying to like, keep that under wrap, support the movement.
	Okay, read this one.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, chair three, what uh our uh, our word.
	Take my here.
	Can you read it?
	Yeah you, you're the reader.
	Take my vid, vitri.
	What does that say vitriol?
	Vitriol is directed at you oh, and of girl, but in no way directed at chair four five six seven, guess what?
	They're woman too.
	Yo, Lucas.
	Thank you so much for the uh message.
	Man really appreciate it.
	We have two more coming in here.
	Guys, if you want, you can get your little chat in.
	We have uh, let's see Lucas again, if you can read this one.
	I take my previous comment back now.
	My yeah is directed at what's vitriol?
	Yeah wait, just read it before it disappears.
	What does that say?
	Meter made, meter made as well.
	What kind of?
	If you can read one of these before it disappears, i'll give you a hundred dollars.
	What kind of digits are you sprouting, sprouting?
	Okay, go ahead.
	I can't read the word is so.
	Patriarchal monogamy will always be the gold standard for wife, kids and husbands.
	Yes, all right, thank you Lucas, appreciate it.
	We have another one here from Deez Nuts.
	I could guess he's white.
	This is because, like many Asian women, you want to get a white nose due to that self-hatred.
	You can't love the Asian nose you have.
	You want to make yourself more white.
	So sad, wait D's Nates.
	Are you?
	Uh, are you Asian?
	Just curious.
	You have a response, Tiffany.
	Yeah, everyone in Korea gets a nose job.
	Your nose is fine.
	Everyone gets a nose job in Korea.
	Your nose is too thin.
	Is that because they want to?
	But to the super chatter's point, is that because uh, South Korea is an American port and they want to look more white?
	A lot of white girls get nose jobs too.
	So what do they want to look like?
	True yeah, but I don't I don't feel like that actually can contend with the question.
	So uh, I understand why there could be cultures which, for instance, have rings around their necks so that it stretches their neck and they have really long necks, and then what we would do is we would apply every other person who copied that culture and say, why do you want to look like x group?
	But if the pioneer of the group is the one who is starting the thing and other people are complying to move towards that thing, then we would assume that that's the culture you want to look like, right?
	So in this case, the question is, yes, I understand.
	South Korea though, is very much westernized.
	Uh, what's so westernized in fact that uh, I mean, it's been under, it's basically been an American protectorate for what like uh, 70 years.
	So I agree.
	Um yeah, is that?
	Is that why they're doing that?
	To the super chatter's question, um no No, I think it's just in their genetics.
	Korean people just like plastic surgery?
	They like aesthetic.
	They like cute things.
	No, Like in general, that's why the culture, they like cutesy things.
	That's why all the men there dress feminine.
	It's in their genetics?
	Yeah, well, culture comes from somewhere.
	It comes from genetics.
	Yeah, but if you went back 100 years, bro, the men were not liking cutesy shit in fucking 1925.
	How do you know?
	Because no male culture.
	Look at the culture in 1925.
	There's no culture in 1925 that was like fucking with Hello Kitty if you were a dude.
	Well, Korea is like a really homogenous society, so people want to look like each other.
	Sure.
	But like masculinity.
	They would already look like each other without nose jobs, though.
	Why are there three people up at the same time right now?
	Okay, whatever.
	Right?
	When they all they would look like each other with absent the nose jobs.
	I don't understand that argument.
	True.
	I mean, I guess it kind of comes from being westernized.
	Yeah.
	Okay, anyways, let's see here.
	Let me get into some of the other notes.
	We have.
	You know what?
	Actually, wait, where the hell is it?
	Sorry, guys, one sec.
	What the hell?
	Why did my notes not save?
	That's weird.
	Oh, Tiffany.
	Okay.
	Tiffany, you wrote in your notes, you don't have a crazy dating story because you've never really dated around, but you do have hot takes.
	You say you should date with.
	Which one are you going to mention?
	You should date within your culture and nationality.
	Yeah.
	So what do you mean?
	Girl.
	You should.
	Wait, wouldn't this prove the super chatter wrong?
	About the white boyfriend?
	Wait, hold on just a sec here.
	Okay.
	Yo, Bob Evans, thank you for the gift of 20 memberships.
	Sorry, go ahead, Andrew.
	Thank you, Bob.
	Oh, if that was the case, wouldn't that prove the super chatter wrong about a white boyfriend?
	What do you mean prove him wrong?
	Well, if you think you should only date within culture and nationality, right?
	Not a lot of white Koreans run it around, right?
	No, as long as you're assimilated to the culture and you have the same nationality, like you don't have to be the same race.
	How does a white person and an Asian person have the same nationality, though?
	Your passport?
	Scoot your mic.
	Yeah, your nationality is your country.
	Oh, your country.
	Scoot the mic.
	To the corner.
	What do you mean?
	Yeah, they would have this.
	You could be an Asian American and a white American.
	You would have the same nationality.
	Right?
	Well, are you?
	Why are you looking at me?
	Yes, yes, I just don't want to confuse what the difference between ethnicity and nationality.
	Yes, but we got it.
	I just thought that's the same thing.
	Nationality is part of ethnicity.
	No, it's not.
	You can be ethnic.
	Ethnically certainly is.
	It won't hurt.
	Can a white person be Korean?
	That's what I was asking.
	Yeah, but you can be ethnically something and your nationality can be different.
	Yeah.
	Can you tilt your mic down a bit?
	Yeah, your ethnicity is different.
	No, that's what you just said.
	That's a category error.
	You can be ethnically one thing and your nationality can be from another place.
	Like, two things can be true at the same time.
	Yeah, that's a category error.
	You're making a category error.
	So you're conflating racial characteristics with ethnicity.
	You can have an ethnicity absent race.
	So like American would be an ethnicity.
	Okay.
	I would think of American as a nationality, and there's a lot of different kinds of ethnicity in there that are both things.
	Both things.
	If you're native.
	Race can also be part of ethnicity.
	They're not a bad person.
	But ethnicity is a broad, it's a broad stroke term, right?
	You could even say that independent family is an ethnicity.
	It just depends on how much you want to reduce it.
	But all ethnicity is pointing to is people groupings.
	That's it.
	Well, okay.
	That could be grouped on nationality, race, whatever.
	Let's get a little clarification just to move things along here.
	You said you should date within your culture and nationality.
	So when you say culture, you mean what?
	Culture.
	Like.
	Okay, so what culture do you belong to?
	Just general, like, American culture.
	Okay, and you're, you said you should date within your nationality.
	So when you say nationality, you mean like American.
	Yeah.
	So Americans should not date people from other countries?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So anybody living in America can date somebody else living in America because that's the culture is broadly American and the nationality is of course American.
	Yeah.
	So Americans can date Americans you should date within that that that like spectrum, I guess.
	So your hot take is that Americans should date Americans?
	No Americans shouldn't date like immigrants from a with a different passport.
	That's what I'm saying.
	So okay, so you're saying okay citizens of the United States should not date immigrants or citizens or citizens with who haven't assimilated through the culture.
	So okay by the way, Andrew, is this potentially TOS?
	You think?
	Or I think it's okay.
	Yeah, it's fine.
	I think it's okay.
	We were just talking about dating preferences.
	Wait, so if I was dating like a Mexican.
	Uh-huh.
	No bueno.
	I like the pun.
	If, well, it depends like what kind of Mexican.
	If she's like illegal.
	A dwarf.
	She is a Mexican national.
	She's a Mexican national.
	Dwarf, no.
	So she has a Mexico passport.
	Yeah, and she, but she's here legally on a visa, but she's here legally.
	Uh-huh.
	Would that be?
	Well, I think you should date to marry.
	So.
	So you shouldn't marry anyone.
	But you could make her an American by marriage.
	But she would become a citizen if I were to marry her.
	I know.
	That's why.
	That's why you shouldn't.
	Because you don't want her to become a citizen.
	Yeah.
	So is it people that are from like not American or people who are in America not legally that you don't agree with?
	It's both.
	It's Americans who haven't.
	It's people with an American passport who haven't assimilated and people who have assimilated but don't have an American passport.
	Could what if there was an immigrant from Korea and she has taken on the American culture and she's assimilated, but she's an immigrant.
	Uh-huh.
	Illegally.
	Uh-huh.
	Can I marry her?
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	Just check this.
	What if she's a dwarf and hot as fuck?
	What if she's not hot?
	You could if you want to, I just think you shouldn't.
	Yeah, yeah, I shouldn't.
	What if she's not a dwarf and she's just like hot as fuck?
	No.
	Wait, what is the reason, though?
	Yeah.
	To create a homogenous society where there's no.
	It's like when you marry someone outside of your culture and nationality, you're kind of like diluting the culture of your nation.
	Do you know that this nation is founded off of immigrants?
	My family was an immigrant, like granted, a few generations back, but I think almost every single person in this room probably was an immigrant at some point.
	And that's what our there's there's a limit to that.
	I think if there's way too many immigrants coming in, this whole country is going to lose its like identity.
	So I mean, because technically, this country was founded on white, like Christian values.
	Okay, what about your boyfriend?
	If your boyfriend was an immigrant, would you still date him?
	No.
	So you do a passport check on dates.
	Wait, is it TOS?
	Yeah.
	Andrew?
	Now we've crossed the Rubicon.
	Okay.
	Andrew, just tell me because you should just.
	Yeah, now we've crossed into the Rubicon.
	I mean, it's fine as it is, but now we've crossed into the Rubicon.
	But the idea here that you're promoting is just called cultural nationalism.
	It's just the idea that cultural homogeny is a thing which people generally strive towards.
	They want some type of, it has nothing to do with race at all.
	It's just they're talking specifically about culture.
	So, for instance, let me give all of you an example.
	You can tell me if you agree or disagree.
	Japan has a distinct culture, and Japan has a distinct people group, and Japan wants to keep Japan Japanese.
	Can any of you think of a single problem with that?
	I mean, I've been to Japan.
	I don't see any problem with the way that they do.
	That's the point.
	But I don't think it's applicable to the United States.
	Well, whether you do or you don't, right?
	You couldn't say that if the United States had such a standard, it would be immoral because the standard itself for Japan, you just concede it is not.
	So that's the point, right?
	So this is the point of a cultural nationalist or saying if you have a culture which you want to keep intact, like the Japanese, Japanese don't, they only allow in a very, very, very tiny amount of immigrants into the nation.
	And, you know, what's the argument for them not to do that?
	And there generally isn't one, really.
	Isn't like the definition of racism discriminating against race and nationality?
	You got to speak straight into the.
	Isn't the definition of racism discriminating against race and nationality?
	Yeah.
	So what's the difference?
	Are you saying the Japanese are racist?
	I'm not saying that, but I'm saying like...
	Then what's the problem with them wanting to keep Japan Japanese?
	No, I'm just saying like in America, I feel like that's a problem.
	Yeah, no, answer my question, though.
	What's the problem with Japan wanting to keep Japan Japanese, even though their policy by your definition, they would be racist, right?
	so what would the actual problem be i mean i don't live in japan so i don't really like care what they do but like i don't really know why that has anything to do with the question though Why do you need to live there in order to engage with the question itself?
	Well, it doesn't affect me, but like, I don't, I mean, I don't think.
	Why does it matter if you're not?
	Okay, I don't think it's a problem per se, but I just think I'm just making that problem.
	Yeah, it's not.
	So you're basically saying that racism isn't a problem, right?
	No, that's all I'm saying.
	No, no, no, no.
	That's all I'm saying.
	I'm just saying.
	Okay, well, then if it is the case that you're saying if the Japanese are discriminating against non-Japanese people, that's racist, but you don't have a problem with that, then what else could you be saying other than racism is okay?
	I don't get it.
	Okay, well, hey, I just don't want to smoke with Japan, but I'm just saying, like, I'm just making a point.
	I'm just making a point.
	I'm just making a point.
	You know what?
	I'm just making a point.
	I don't want the beef.
	I do not want.
	I do not want that wag you.
	No, I do not want any beef with that country.
	So I'm just making a point.
	I'm just saying, I'm just saying the definition of racism.
	That's all I'm saying.
	That's cool.
	And would they fit that definition?
	If they wanted to keep Japan Japanese, would they fit that definition?
	I don't want smoke with Japan, but.
	She doesn't want.
	Yeah, I get it.
	But would they fit the definition?
	Do you want smoke with Thailand?
	No.
	I love typhoon.
	I mean, would they?
	You know what?
	I think that a different example than Japan would be like a lot of the Gulf states in the Middle East.
	Their citizenship is extremely exclusive and only offered to people who are born there and proven to be, you know, that ethnically.
	So like you look at places like Kuwait or Qatar where they have more foreign nationals living there without a passport than there are actual citizens of the country, which just creates like a very strange dichotomy, I think, to think that there's more like that would be like if there's more non-Americans living in America than Americans.
	I don't know.
	It's just like a strange thing and generally.
	I don't understand.
	How is it a false dichotomy?
	They're literally saying we don't want people groups other than ours here.
	No, they're saying everybody.
	No, Because they're allowing more people than citizens of their own country.
	As long as it's underneath the threshold of the majority.
	No, it's not.
	No, I think you should do your research a little bit because using the Japanese example.
	I'm talking about the Middle Eastern example that I just provided.
	You created the false dichotomy.
	So the thing is, if the Japanese people say we want our nation to be 99% or 98% Japanese, right?
	And that is their official policy.
	Is that a racist policy?
	I mean, I don't know.
	I guess it's subjective to whoever thinks, I don't know.
	How is it subjective?
	That's their official policy.
	There's nothing subjective.
	It's literally objective.
	The official policy is the majority of Japan is to stay Japanese.
	That's the official policy.
	But Japanese is not a race.
	So they're not discriminating against race.
	Oh, okay.
	So the Japanese rule out everybody who doesn't look like an Asian Japanese person.
	A bunch of white people and then claiming that they're Japanese because they now have Japanese citizenship.
	They're not doing that.
	Okay.
	Wait, can anyone?
	So, can anyone not be a citizen in Japan?
	No, you can't.
	You can't.
	They only take X amount of immigrants per year to make sure that it stays Japanese.
	Cultural nationalism seems to fit in a lot better with smaller countries that are more homogeneous.
	And in the United States, we have a lot of cultural pluralism, and that's what makes this idea of cultural nationalism not quite fit when your passport says USA.
	Yeah.
	What she said.
	Well, okay, I'm not going to, I'm not going to, I could refute that pretty easy, but I'm not going to dive into it for purposes of YouTube TOS.
	But the thing is, I would still like an answer to this question, right?
	If the Japanese say we want like 95% of our country to always remain Japanese, right?
	And Japanese, the criteria is you genetically have to be tied to the Japanese race by X threshold, and will only take X amount of immigrants who are not genetically tied to that demographic.
	That certainly sounds racial to me.
	Yeah?
	It is a little bit, but I don't want smoke with Japan, so I'm not going to say that.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, we'll just let it go there, I guess.
	Okay, so but you're saying like a white American can date an Asian American, a black American can date a white American.
	Okay.
	You said men should always pay for dates?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Who here at the table agrees?
	Should men always pay for dates?
	So no, no, no, no?
	I think they should, but that doesn't mean I won't sometimes.
	Sometimes, like once in a while.
	Like, but it's not, it's not for their lack of trying.
	It's because I want to.
	Okay.
	And then going back to Tiffany, you also said maybe we'll come back to the paying for dates thing later, but you said you shouldn't get married if you don't plan to have children.
	Not much there to really discuss.
	I don't know if you want to elaborate or basically you shouldn't have kids out of wedlock.
	There's no really, there's not really a point.
	You're scooting to the mic, please.
	There's no point in dating.
	Okay.
	Now, this is a hot one.
	You said people who don't speak English should date outside of America.
	Yeah.
	To anyone?
	It's the same thing.
	It's like cultural homogeneity.
	It's like English is what makes America America, you know?
	So can they date anybody that speaks another language or only their same language?
	Like if they're bilingual.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's fine.
	Bilingual.
	As long as they can communicate with each other.
	What about two Spanish speakers who don't speak English in America?
	They should date each other.
	They should go back to their own country.
	Is that your value?
	That they should both speak at least the same one same language.
	That they should both speak English.
	Yeah, I don't know why that's even problematic.
	Like, that just makes total sense to me.
	If you're going to live in a country and immigrate to it, you should speak the language of the country.
	That just doesn't matter.
	That makes sense.
	Like, if I went to Japan, I can't just be like, motherfuckers, you should speak English.
	Yeah, I mean, many nations have this as a litmus test.
	Like, you can't move to the nation unless you can prove that you can speak the language of the nation because otherwise you become dependent.
	You become a dependent.
	You now are consuming state resources.
	That's problematic, right?
	Yeah.
	Wait, so, okay, so you said people who don't speak English should date outside of America.
	So they should.
	So like two Spanish speakers.
	Yeah, wherever they're from, if they're from Spain, go date in Spain.
	They speak Spanish.
	Are you thinking of another country that's where I thought you were going with that?
	I am pretty sure they speak Spanish.
	They do speak Spanish.
	No, they do.
	They do.
	I just, there's not a lot of Spanish illegal immigrants.
	Do you know what I mean?
	Yeah, they're mostly Hispanic.
	That's true.
	Yeah.
	No, but like from Spain.
	Spaniards.
	Like Spaniards.
	Yeah, that's why I said Hispanic and not Spaniard.
	Yeah.
	You also said only men should make decisions for the family.
	However, in the best interest of his wife and kids and not himself.
	Yeah.
	Do you want to elaborate on that at all?
	I think that the nuclear family structure is the strongest backbone of a society.
	And the man is supposed to be a provider and a protector.
	So it's right that he makes a decision for his family.
	What about in same-sex couple households?
	I don't believe in gay marriage.
	You have a reaction to that?
	Go ahead.
	Based.
	Well, I'm sorry.
	That was a good idea.
	Go ahead, Mike.
	Go ahead.
	Here, can you get scoot yourself?
	Yeah, yeah, sure, sure, sure.
	Yeah, every time I talk, I come closer.
	Yeah, but just strain your mic too, please.
	It's like pointing at the moon.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, of course.
	That was a very natural reaction of mine to I don't believe in gay marriages.
	It just cancels the love of some people and there would be no other love for those.
	And it's just not the statement that I would ever make out loud.
	Or in my head as well.
	But I mean, it has, and it's not because it has something to do with me, even though I did experience the same-sex relationship and it wasn't for me.
	It's just, yeah, as soon as I heard it, I was very uncomfortable thinking about the people who are happy in this relationship and that will stay together till the end of their lives.
	Yeah, I mean, she said marriage, not love, though.
	Okay, marriage.
	But marriage is like love.
	It's a sign of love.
	So do you need the state required to be married?
	Or like a ceremony.
	Yeah.
	Do you need the state to be married?
	Wait, I have a question.
	Is the state required to be married?
	Do you need the state to be married?
	No.
	Well, if you don't need the state to be married, then I don't understand why gay people couldn't get married, even if the state didn't recognize the marriage.
	I don't get that.
	You would need the state to recognize your marriage.
	You don't need the state to recognize.
	You don't need to have a legal marriage.
	You can have a commitment ceremony.
	You can have a marriage in church.
	So.
	Yeah.
	And to be fair, she did say love.
	She's not saying that any relationship.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Usually.
	So then you're just calling it marriage without the sacrament or the certificate.
	You're just calling it marriage.
	Well, the sacrament is religious.
	And as you know, might note, the religious sacrament of marriage excludes what particular group?
	No, not necessarily.
	Yeah, necessarily.
	None of the sacrament.
	A sacrament.
	Wait, you're a Catholic.
	Yeah, namely.
	I'm a Catholic, and that's not true.
	Wait, what's not true?
	Yeah, it is true in the Catholic Church.
	Official Catholic doctrine is that LGBTQ marriage is not allowed.
	I said I'm a Catholic, but did I say that that's the all-Christian doctrine?
	No, I just said I personally am a Catholic, so I'm familiar with how Christians...
	Are you aware of sacraments then?
	That Christians have sacraments.
	She said a sacrament.
	Marriage is a sacrament to the Catholic Church.
	It's a sacrament to the Orthodox Church.
	The churches which will marry LGBTQ people don't see marriage as a sacrament.
	They don't do sacramental marriage.
	Okay.
	Set up the split.
	So I'd like to note, right, you do recognize that the church excludes this group from marriage.
	You recognize that that's true, right?
	I'm not, I guess they, as a sacrament, but I do know that there are churches that will marry gay couples.
	Yeah, but maybe perhaps not called a sacrament.
	Yeah, you would agree with me.
	To me, the word, I didn't know sacrament is specific to well, you take communion, right?
	Yeah.
	Catholic Church.
	Yes.
	What is that?
	I understand that that's a sacrament, but I didn't.
	Yeah, that's a significant thing.
	I thought sacrament was like a holy practice.
	I thought that could be applicable to any church.
	Excuse me.
	You can call it a sacrament, I guess, but what makes it that?
	So this is where the argument goes, right?
	Would you agree with me that somebody could worship Satan but ID themselves as a Christian?
	They could self-ID that way.
	They could say, I'm a Christian.
	You could self-ID yourself as whatever you want, but that doesn't mean it's self-conscious.
	Yeah, right.
	Exactly.
	So you can self-ide as whatever you want, but it doesn't make you that thing.
	So we have to have specific criteria for what makes you that thing.
	So the Catholics are going to believe that they are the true church.
	The Orthodox believe that they are the true church, right?
	So they're excluding these groups as being Christians based around self-id.
	And I think that that's totally reasonable, but they definitely exclude LGBTQ from marriage.
	Okay.
	Do you think gay people should date or shouldn't date?
	They could if they want to, but I mean I'm just saying that gay marriage isn't a thing because marriage has an objective definition.
	What?
	Bring it back to the original thing, though.
	What original thing?
	That the husbands, but it should be the man should be making those decisions.
	The man should be making decisions for the benefit of the family.
	Well, yeah, I kind of said that because when people say only like when the trad guy say, like, oh, I only get to make decisions in my family, it sounds kind of like dictator vibes, you know, but that's not what really it is about, you know.
	Andrew, what's it about?
	It's not about being kind of like prideful and arrogant and making decisions because like you're the only smart one in the household or you're the only competent one.
	You just make decisions in the best interest of your family.
	Yeah, but who gets to determine what's in the best interest of your family?
	The guy.
	Okay, so then I don't really understand the circular logic here.
	How could he be doing anything which is prideful or et cetera, et cetera, unless you are the one who's telling him that if he's the one in charge of the family?
	No, I'm saying like other kind of like left-leaning people kind of hear it that way when that's when, trad guys, I disagree with your, with your assessment, and forgive me, I'll steel man at first to make sure that I have it correct so that I'm not not mischaracterizing your position.
	But I believe that your position here is to say that a man is a sacrifice for his family.
	Because of that, he is the leader of the family, but that's due to the self-sacrifice for the family, not that he's the leader and he should be leading for himself.
	He should only be leading for the family, right?
	Um, what do you mean?
	Leading for himself?
	Well, that's what I don't understand.
	What is the man in the relationship here?
	He's the leader.
	You say yeah, but you say his criteria for leadership.
	Is self-sacrifice part of it?
	Yes okay so uh, I don't, I don't understand that part.
	Well, I think, I think Go, just gave men the role of leadership.
	Women, okay.
	So they make sacrifices of self-sacrifice.
	Well, they have.
	Well, they have to sacrifice.
	Yeah, they have to sacrifice.
	Right, but they have to take care of themselves first.
	Right, because how otherwise, how could they sacrifice to anybody else?
	So like, how how can a man, for instance, take care of his family if he's not also putting his own needs and welfare uh, to the forefront as well?
	How could, how could they even do that?
	What's an example of like putting work himself first work.
	So the let's take, for instance, work is sacrificial right um, but you're gonna, he's gonna need to have plenty of r time, plenty of relaxed time.
	He's gonna have to be taking care of himself as well, and part of the obligation, duty of leadership is also putting your needs.
	Your needs um, I see, I think that I think that you have it backwards.
	I think a man actually does have to put his needs first in order to make those sacrifices for his family.
	Yeah, i'd agree I, i'd agree with that.
	It's like, in the long term, it's beneficial for his family, Right, exactly.
	So ultimately, I think that the man does need to have his needs come up first and foremost.
	Otherwise, he can't take care of anybody else.
	How could he?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So that's all.
	I was just clarifying the position.
	So I think the left has it right when they characterize the right and conservatives as saying, well, wait a second.
	You think that this man's a meanie head dictator who's putting himself first?
	Well, in many ways, yes, he is putting himself first because otherwise, how can he sacrifice for you?
	Right?
	How?
	How could he do it?
	Right?
	If he's not healthy, he's not available to sacrifice, right?
	Yeah.
	I just think that that's a good thing.
	I just think it's a good thing.
	That's all.
	At least if he wanted a traditional relationship.
	And it used to be that way inside of traditional relationships, that the movement towards man's relaxation, R ⁇ R time, and things like this were catered to.
	That way he could make those sacrifices with his body, right?
	That was the point.
	So, anyway.
	Yeah, I don't know where Brian wanted to move on from here.
	So what is Brian doing?
	Is he microwaving a burrito right now?
	Is he microwaving a burrito?
	I don't know.
	Okay, well, this one comes up quite a bit.
	So I'll bring this one up with the panel real fast.
	So there's been an ongoing Twitter dispute all over the place.
	This is with religious and non-religious circles.
	It's about this question.
	And the question is, for women in a married relationship, is sex a duty or not a duty?
	Are you obligated in a marriage to have sex with your husband?
	And we'll go around the table to ask the question, and we'll start with you and Red.
	Go ahead.
	Yes, I do believe in a normal relationship, assuming there's no like crazy outlying factors affecting the relationship.
	Identical and stuff like that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like stuff like that.
	I mean, in a normal marriage, I do think it's your duty.
	And I do agree with you about a man's needs being catered to in order for him to fulfill his role as the man of the house or man of whatever household relationship, whatever.
	But also, I think it's a man's duty to have sex with his wife, too.
	So okay.
	Yeah, yeah, I understand that.
	We'll go around the table.
	Actually, pretty basic.
	Next.
	I am based, by the way.
	Don't you see I'm in head-to-toe red?
	I just like to argue with you.
	I do.
	Well, then it's good for you.
	So moving to the next on the table.
	Pizza.
	No, thank you.
	Do you need me to repeat the question?
	Thank you.
	You need me to repeat the question, don't you?
	Like, checked out to the 18-year-old OnlyFans girl.
	You just checked out.
	You don't even know what the question is.
	No, I do know what the question is.
	All right, go ahead.
	I think you're referring to sex as a duty for women or men, or like just generally in the relationship.
	Is there a duty to have sex?
	Is there an obligation to have sex in marriage?
	I think that a relationship or a marriage without sex will eventually die.
	Yeah, so the question is not what you think about it, just yes or no.
	Is there an obligation in a marriage to have sex?
	Okay, moving around the table.
	Next.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I don't have an opinion on this at this time.
	I haven't formed an opinion.
	I don't formed an opinion on it.
	Meanwhile, thank you.
	Okay, so I won't hold this against you, but knee jerk, just like a knee jerk.
	My knee jerk leans towards yes because your physical relationship is part of your union or what makes someone a significant other.
	Like I have 100 platonic relationships, but that's the thing that makes a pl that changes a platonic relationship to an emotional significant relationship.
	My knee jerk reaction.
	And then moving around the table from there, is a woman obligated to give sex in a relation or in a marriage?
	Is she obligated to do so?
	What is this?
	Is it to me?
	Yeah.
	Come on, guys.
	Pay attention.
	Pay attention.
	We're going around the second.
	I thought you were asking a different question.
	No, it's the same question.
	I kind of agree with her, but like the way you're phrasing the question kind of sounds like forceful, but at the same time, yes.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, so without the caveats, just for now, are you obligated to give sex in a marriage?
	Are you obligated to do so?
	I think it's two different questions.
	The first question you asked was like, is it a woman's duty to have sex in a relationship?
	Yeah, well, what is it?
	I'm sorry.
	I'm confused.
	A duty is an obligation, correct?
	Thank you.
	Sort of.
	Well, what else could it be?
	I don't know.
	It sounds kind of more like force.
	I will just give you the Google definition of the word duty.
	For some reason, I'm guessing that it's going to say obligation right in it.
	Let's see.
	Duty, definition.
	A moral or legal obligation.
	A moral or legal obligation is what a duty is.
	So, yeah, so I would say yes.
	Okay, then yes.
	Okay.
	So then next.
	Nicole?
	Yes, I do think so.
	You think so?
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	Into the mics.
	Yes.
	It should definitely be a part of a marriage.
	Yes.
	I think it's your duty to fulfill it.
	So thanks.
	Each other's needs.
	So if sex is one of them, then you should.
	So you have an obligation to do so?
	If you feel like that's in a marriage, yes.
	If you don't feel like it, no.
	Okay.
	So just very quickly, show of hands at the table, everybody who said yes, there's an obligation to do so.
	Okay, so now that we have the obligation standard applied, here's the question.
	This is going around the feminist circles.
	There was a woman who is receiving chemotherapy, and her husband came in every single night to receive head from her, right?
	She was, by this logic, obligated to give him said head.
	Is that correct?
	And we'll go around the table again.
	Well, I did put that stipulation in my answer.
	So I think this is like something they should probably talk about in therapy because I'm assuming maybe the woman is not feeling her best, but I do think, you know, you should still try.
	You still are in a marriage.
	However, I think that the man should be like more lenient during these times.
	Or if you're a very open-minded person, then maybe me personally.
	I mean, she's obligated, right?
	Well, yes, I do think that you're obligated to ensure that your husband's needs are met.
	I did not say by you.
	If you're bald and in chemotherapy and you don't feel like doing it and you're like, you know what?
	Like, I'm just focused on trying to live right now.
	If you want to go sleep with somebody else and that's just that just to fulfill your physical needs, like I think that that would be a potential solution.
	I mean, yeah, but if they're if they're Christians, they can't do that.
	That's not an option, right?
	I mean, by the way, we're going to do a, I mean, you can guys can keep talking.
	We're going to do a TTS pizza party.
	It's going to be a roast session if you guys want.
	So get it.
	You're TTS.
	You guys continue talking though, but we got some pizza here.
	Give the girls a little breather.
	Yeah.
	So I think it's a case-by-case basis, but I think that you're obligated.
	I thought it was an obligation before.
	No, it's an obligation to make sure your man's needs are met.
	But did I say that that's your personal obligation if you're struggling and in chemo?
	It might not be your obligation.
	Maybe give the obligation to somebody to take it over temporarily.
	And then when you're feeling back to your best self and you feel like you can, you know.
	All right, all right.
	Well, let me get the rest of the answers in real quick.
	So we'll go next.
	You said it's an obligation, right?
	So what do you think in this situation?
	I think it's still an obligation to have sex, but I think your opinion matters.
	Like the wife's opinion.
	If she's in that state, it should depend on her.
	Okay, well, that doesn't sound like an obligation.
	That sounds like it's optional.
	But we'll go to the next one then.
	Obligation?
	Remember, she has an obligation, yeah?
	I would say, yes.
	Of course, it's a very strong word, but I believe that in a couple that actually does have a potential and that is strong enough to survive in the future as the team, it will be an obligation that will not hurt them in any way, neither emotional or physical, you know?
	Well, that doesn't sound like an obligation.
	It sounds like it's just optional.
	No, no, I do not want to make it sound optional.
	I believe that it is an obligation in the healthy couples that have a chance to survive in the future.
	In case that this is the kind of bonding that will last, this obligation should not give anybody any discomfort.
	And in case this situation happens, well, it definitely needs attention and needs to be fixed either, yeah, through therapy, it needs to be processed and $100.
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	That's the funniest shit I've heard all night.
	You don't even understand what he said, but it's so funny.
	Okay, so, but I don't understand.
	It can't just be any discomfort like, oh, I'm tired from work.
	You wouldn't accept that, right?
	So it's not just predicated on discomfort, right?
	There has to be some other criteria that we're applying.
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	Good question.
	I mean, we were, that was literally going to be the lead-in to the next question, right?
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	Here, just show of hands on this from the whole panel.
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	How about we'll go around then?
	Yes or no?
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	Yes or no?
	Not always.
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	So I'm saying that sometimes I feel like if a woman is being like, if you haven't had sex with your wife in like a long time, like she's being like, she's just not into it, whatever, and he cheats, like it is not like justifiable, but I guess it's more understandable.
	Okay, what about you?
	No.
	No.
	These aren't simple, absolute questions to answer.
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	You got to get to the answers here.
	No, but it's my turn to answer Andrew's question next.
	No.
	If they talked about it, then they agreed upon it, yes.
	Okay.
	But you guys are all fine, like, justified he can divorce her.
	You're fine with that.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
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	I will skip that question.
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	We have hope.
	Andrew, we have ranked choice voting in Alaska, and I voted for Chase Oliver first and then Trump second, so he gets a half a vote from me.
	Yeah, but he could have got the full vote.
	But I need to, I needed to represent a third party because it's important to vote for third parties so that they become contenders.
	Um, no one come on.
	Oh, you're not voting?
	No, why not?
	There's no point.
	Okay, if you were in Pennsylvania like those, I think you guys better move it on moving on from that.
	I'm telling you, moving on from that comes to like Democrat.
	Wait, and text me why text me why, Andrew.
	I thought she was gonna bring out election fraud.
	That's why.
	I'm gonna answer that question.
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	Can I just say real quick?
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	Why?
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	I mean, you didn't even say anything.
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	Well, I mean, while I know that it seems like it's an unreasonable standard to allow your significant other to go out and get googled in her brawn panties, I prefer not to do that.
	Respect, brother.
	You know what?
	I'm more of a Burkini guy.
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	What the hell?
	Don't do it.
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	Look, if it makes you feel any better, I also think that there's a standard for respect for men.
	I see, I notice that men walk around all the time with their shirts off.
	I find that to be highly disrespectful.
	I always saw that my dad told me when I was a little kid: regardless of the shape that you're in, don't walk around with your shirt off.
	That's what trashy people do.
	And generally, I have found, now this is not always the case, but I have generally found that men who walk around with their shirt off usually are trashy people.
	It's just a lot of people.
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	She's a fly in her burkini.
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	Yeah, this is this is what I would have my woman wearing.
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	I will make you a perfect trad wife with citizenship.
	Oh.
	These napes donated $30.
	Just because most women have sex out of wedlock, are you doing that?
	No, because it's wrong.
	Because most Asian women that could afford a white nose get it doesn't mean it's right.
	I'm not Asian.
	I want to know that.
	MD Jim donated $30.
	A third-party president is ridiculous because no third party can control the Congress and Senate.
	So a third-party president will not be effective and a waste of time.
	Actually, I have a better argument than that.
	I donated $30.33.
	Chair one, what Dayfac is up with your roots?
	Those roots are a cry for help louder than any therapy session you could book.
	Fuck you, kitten bear.
	Put a dumbass username.
	Oh, literally.
	Damn.
	Okay.
	Wait, okay, really quick.
	Cena, you said you were going to finish that pizza in three bites.
	Go quick.
	Do it.
	And three bites?
	Wait, you're hiding behind the microphone.
	You got.
	Oh.
	Oh, one.
	One bite.
	One bite.
	Everybody knows the rules.
	What the fuck?
	Wow, that was.
	She did it for free.
	For free.
	It's already creepy.
	Good job.
	That was very good.
	You okay?
	She needs some milk.
	Could I speak to Andrew's last question about women with chemo?
	OG underscore Nazar donated $30.
	In some religions, sex is an obligation, and failure to fulfill this obligation is to obtain from marriage.
	Also, with cancer, have to consider the weakened body and weak muscles and sensitive nerves.
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	Chair 1, 304.
	Chair 2, Asian 304.
	Chair 3, Dumb 304.
	Chair 4, how many cats do you have?
	Chair 5, just dumb.
	Chair 6, racist 304.
	Chair 7, chill.
	Chair 8, Belgian 304.
	You should have all been swallowed.
	Damn, what the fuck?
	Dariel underscore Frank Carson 512 donated $30.
	Chair 2 should definitely stick to off.
	She couldn't answer basic questions, and Drew asked her.
	Plus, who would hire a woman to do a man's job?
	Just get back in the kitchen stumpets.
	Okay.
	Dylan Joe donated $29.99.
	Can we get a Halloween Earl stream?
	No.
	It'd be interesting to see the degeneracy cranked up to 11.
	Girl in red seems like quite a mean-spirited bias.
	Yeah, probably no Halloween IRL stream.
	And even in Santa Barbara, like all the Halloween stuff is like this past weekend, the weekend before.
	It's kind of weird how they'll do the Halloween stuff like the week prior.
	But yeah, unfortunately, unfortunately, no, the IRL stuff is on hold for the time being.
	But if there's any other 30s that come through for the next minute or two, I'll kind of like allow the leeway.
	We're back up to or well, the TTS is 100 down from 200.
	So if you guys want, that's the new threshold.
	TTS is 100.
	Did you want to?
	Can I quickly address the voting thing real quick with Chair Chair 4?
	I'm really sorry.
	I don't usually say Chair 4 or Lady in Red Like that.
	I wasn't here at the beginning of the show, so I wasn't able to write your names down.
	So please forgive me for that.
	But so, Chair 4, my argument to you for why a third party is not ever going to be viable has nothing to do maybe with our other arguments you've heard.
	Voting is a collective power.
	And since voting is a collective power, you're always going to end up with two parties because you have to, inside of a democracy, collectivize in order to move an issue.
	So a single person inside of a democracy has no power.
	They only have power through collectivization.
	So you'll always see two parties no matter what, because that is how you will be able to have the broadest appeal to power is through that sort of collectivization.
	That's why everything is polarized, and it doesn't matter what democratic nation you go to, it's always going to be the same.
	The polarization is actually exactly what I find so disagreeable between the two-party system.
	And when you think of elections on a more local level, then independent libertarians, green parties have a more have a better chance of getting a seat.
	And we see this in Alaska, for example.
	Alaska has the highest independent voter turnout in the country.
	And it was actually one of the compelling reasons that I moved there from Wisconsin because Wisconsin being a very significant swing state.
	But that doesn't speak to the argument.
	So the argument here specifically is at a national level for politics, you will never be able to see anything but a two-party system because individual people have no power.
	People only have power as a collective.
	So the second you see one party exercise power, meaning they have X amount of people who have moved in collectively to exercise this power, there will always be an offset party who then equally must collectivize to X extent in order to offset that power.
	You could never have a third party or a fourth party or a fifth party because otherwise you can never move the issue forward.
	So it'll always be collectivization between duality.
	It'll never be trifecta.
	It'll just happen.
	That's something I would need to think more about.
	I also appreciated the comment that was talking about the Senate and Congress representation still being two.
	But even if there were a viable third-party candidate as the leader, it would still be a two-party system getting behind it.
	But then if that third-party person was proposing ideas, then the two-party system has to weigh that out and decide which way to go with that new idea.
	I do have to move that.
	I only wanted to point out that every presidential election has been decided before Alaska votes are counted.
	That's the colour.
	I've dated an Asian girl before that was obsessed with getting a white nose, hating her beautiful flat Asian nose.
	Look up Emily Nguyen.
	No women should end up like her because they hate themselves.
	Okay.
	She unfortunately was not at the table.
	I think that was directed at Tiffany there.
	But huh.
	Oh, she died, this woman from the plastic surgery or something.
	Hmm.
	Okay.
	What?
	No, no, no, nothing.
	Nothing.
	I'm fixing the microphone so you will not be mad.
	Yep.
	Good.
	Submissive.
	Yep.
	Patriarchy wins again.
	All right, let me get through the notes here, guys.
	So, Alexandra, you said you have a crazy dating story.
	You moved to Oklahoma for your ex who was cheating on you the whole time with a person who looked exactly like you.
	Yes.
	Like, could be your twin.
	Yes.
	So, well, there's a little bit more to the story.
	So, yeah, I did move to Oklahoma.
	I did find out he was cheating on me with somebody who looked exactly like me.
	On top of that, my ex was like, you know, you really should cut your hair into a Bob.
	Like, you would look so good with a Bob.
	And I was like, you know what?
	Okay, like, maybe I would look good with Bob.
	I cut my hair into a Bob.
	Then I find out that the girl he was cheating on with me with looked exactly like me with a blonde Bob.
	Okay, we break up, whatever.
	Like, that was strange, but you know, maybe a coincidence.
	Maybe he just likes blondes or I don't know.
	Weird.
	We break up.
	He was an athlete, so his teammates after we broke up were trying to talk to me and stuff.
	And then my ex got with another, a third triplet who looked exactly like us with a blonde Bob and was posting pictures of her on his close friends for his teammates to see, pretending that it was me.
	So they would assume that we were back together, but it was actually just a third doppelganger.
	And the most ironic part of the story is that his mom hated me, like hated me.
	So I just love the fact that the girl he chose to be with next looked exactly like my twin.
	I didn't even have to do the karma.
	She did it for me.
	So that's my crazy dating story.
	My ex totally has a very, very extremely specific type.
	I don't know.
	Are we allowed to show pictures of other people on this?
	No, not really.
	Well, they did look exactly like me.
	Hence why I put my extensions back in because I don't want to be a triplet anymore.
	Oh, yeah, that was a cool story.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, my bad.
	And then you also, you wanted to speak on mother-son dynamics in a relationship and how moms can be insane.
	Yeah, I just think like, I mean, I feel like this is not even that crazy compared to some of the other things we've talked about today, but yeah, I think that, you know, moms, a lot of times when there's like a lack of a father in the home, that moms like can gravitate towards their sons and then kind of develop this like relationship that's not a mother-son relationship.
	It's more like a an actual relationship.
	And yeah, I don't know if anybody else has experienced something like that before, but it's just like, I think that was also part of the crazy dating story is that this insanely close relationship between a son and his mother to the point where it almost gives like ancestual.
	I don't know.
	It's just weird.
	Like I like, I feel like as a girlfriend, it's uncomfortable for the mom to be like holding hands with her son.
	And like, I don't, it's just like too much.
	Like, I feel like these type of dynamics like are not discussed enough.
	And like, it's just, it's weird.
	And that's my take on mother-son relationships.
	He was holding hands with his mom?
	In front of me, yeah, not holding my hand, making me walk behind them.
	How old was he?
	24.
	Yeah, that's fucked up.
	Weird.
	Well, sometimes you need help crossing the street, you know, when your mom can help you.
	Was he white?
	You know, was it a white guy?
	No, it wasn't a white guy.
	What?
	But I don't think that's really relevant.
	I'm just curious.
	I'm just curious.
	No, he was black, but I don't think that that's really relevant.
	Wait, why y'all not, you know?
	I feel like wouldn't you expect it more of a white guy though?
	You know what I mean?
	I don't know.
	I think like the main, I think, I don't think it's really a racial thing necessarily.
	I think it's just like the common denominator, though, between like men who do this is always like the lack of a father figure in the home growing up.
	So they get this like kind of codependent relationship.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Has anybody else at the table experienced that?
	No, but I've seen it.
	I've seen like pictures.
	I don't know if you saw that picture that went viral of the mom like jumping into her high school son.
	Like picking her up.
	Yeah.
	Or like the moms who.
	Donated $100.
	I'll reach out to you.
	Make close to chair one.
	No need to have the pattern on your hand.
	No man will ever notice it when it's being used.
	I don't get it.
	You don't have to get it.
	Oh, you're like, okay.
	Yo, Jake, thank you very much.
	I have two more coming through.
	There was one other 30 that kind of slipped by.
	I'll let that one come through.
	But guys, we did bump it to these nates donated $30.
	Thank you.
	I've dated an Asian girl before that was obsessed with getting a white nose, hating her beautiful flat Asian nose.
	Look up Emily Wynn.
	No women should end up like her because they hate themselves.
	I looked her up.
	Apparently, she died.
	Lucas donated $30 plastic surgery.
	For the life of me, I can't understand these modern-day women's resistance to modest attire.
	My film made my wife quit being an Eagles cheerleader when they switched their uniforms to show more skin.
	Mm-hmm.
	Word.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Lucas.
	Did you have a quick response to the plastic surgery thing, the nose one?
	I don't think I want to be white just because I want to get a nose job.
	I just want a prettier nose.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And then going over to Megan here with some of your pre-show notes, you said, why don't you tell us a crazy story about the setting the car on fire thing?
	Oh.
	Tell us about that.
	All right.
	So one time I met this guy at a club, and like we had just met, and like he was trying to hook up.
	And like, I don't do that.
	I'm demure.
	I'm classy.
	I wanted to hook up with guys I just meet.
	You a fucking liar.
	You a fucking liar.
	Stop the cap.
	That wasn't me.
	That was Andrew who did that.
	I'm not capping, but anywho, so I hung out with this guy twice and I went to hook up with him.
	So then he blocked my number and had me block for like two months.
	And then he like randomly unblocked me.
	And like I kind of missed him.
	So we hung out and we're like watching a movie and he gets a call from his neighbor that his ex set his car on fire.
	So he ran out and his car was in flames.
	And yeah, that could have been my car.
	So luckily I didn't drive.
	I thought you said that.
	That's it.
	I know.
	I thought you set that car on fire too.
	No, I would never do something like that.
	I would never.
	Okay, and then you also wrote.
	Wait, really quick, just on that.
	Have any of you ever slashed a guy's tires?
	No.
	Done anything to get revenge on an ex of course.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead.
	I mean, like, but I'm not like that crazy, but like I did throw like the PlayStation out.
	All the bags.
	What?
	You threw out his PlayStation?
	Yeah.
	Well, broke the PlayStation.
	What kind of monster are you?
	What'd you do that for?
	He was cheating.
	Well, his PlayStation wasn't cheating.
	Maybe he was on that list.
	Well, yeah, so that, but I don't think that that's that crazy.
	I don't know.
	PlayStation phone had to go.
	What else did you destroy?
	I didn't destroy anything else, but the bags were packed up and left out.
	All of his stuff was moved out of our apartment and put into the hallway.
	Yeah, that makes sense, but like, why destroy this stuff, though?
	That was like my initial reaction.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I was mad.
	Do you know what his gamer tag was up to?
	Was he a Call of Duty?
	Was he a Call of Duty player?
	No.
	What was he playing?
	He would play sports games.
	Then it's a good thing.
	Oh, man.
	A lot of work.
	That's a lot of work.
	Tons of achievements unlocked.
	He just destroyed it all.
	Well, I think the bigger issue was the phone, which was, that was also, that also had to go.
	Petition for men to not have phones.
	A little closer than mine.
	I think, yeah.
	Okay.
	And I sent poop to a guy's house.
	Can't believe you recognize that.
	Wait, what?
	What?
	You what?
	I said it was a combo pack of like gorilla, like sheep, like cow poop, and I sent it to his house.
	How did you get gorilla poop?
	There's a website for it.
	I can send it to you.
	Is there that word class?
	See, this is my former self.
	I'm speaking about myself.
	I mean, he deserved it.
	How do you verify that?
	Like, it's gorilla.
	I know.
	Yeah, did he reach out to you after?
	Yeah, he did.
	He said he thought it was kind of funny, but also just like, you're crazy.
	And I'm like, I guess.
	You deserved it.
	Wait, can you do that again?
	That laugh?
	Later.
	Okay.
	So, okay, Megan, you said you're modern.
	You said modern dating is ratchet for a classy girl like me.
	Well, like you.
	But like me.
	Oh, I know.
	I just feel like people are like.
	Or I just feel like certain guys just like don't understand when good girl is with a thousand bitches.
	You know what I mean?
	Isn't yes.
	It's a Kanye versus Kanye.
	Yeah.
	It still stands.
	And I just feel like I'm.
	I shall name this argument the appeal to West argument.
	Huh?
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Just go ahead.
	Wait.
	Wait, what?
	I think it was like a quote.
	All right, Andrew, do you want to explain it?
	Well, yeah.
	She doesn't get it.
	Kanye West.
	You're appealing to Kanye West lyrics for your argument.
	No, I'm just saying it's like a good quote.
	I don't know if he originated it.
	I know he said it, but it doesn't mean it came only from him.
	Like maybe someone back in the day started it, but I just think it's like the whole point is I feel like guys aren't very loyal nowadays, and I'm a loyal girl.
	And I just think not being loyal is kind of ratchet.
	But you said you're a classy girl.
	I am a classy girl.
	Well, I'm going to have the chat make the determination here.
	Can you pull up her Instagram?
	We know.
	Huh?
	Okay, go ahead.
	All right, scroll down.
	Scroll down.
	Wait, what the heck?
	I look classy, right?
	Hold on.
	Slow it down a little bit.
	Okay, there's some bikini stuff.
	Careful, Andrew.
	There's bikini pictures.
	You don't want to disturb you.
	Scroll down, keep going.
	I mean, this is cute.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, like.
	A little, okay.
	It's cute.
	It's adorable.
	Yeah, I think it's good.
	I mean, there's you, you know, okay, a little.
	Surfing.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	Activities.
	Is it so?
	Chat, classy or not classy?
	Classy, not classy.
	No boom.
	Hello.
	There's the red hair.
	I like the little passive-aggressive comment of, uh-oh, there's going to be bikinis, Andrew.
	Better watch out.
	We insist on showing you our booty pick.
	There's the booty pick.
	There's you in thigh highs.
	I was going through a gothic phase.
	I was going through a phase.
	Uh-huh.
	Uh-huh.
	Okay, I think we get the idea.
	Yeah, class.
	All right.
	I think you're cute.
	Last class class.
	Cool.
	Story, bro, I guess.
	Okay, let's see.
	I got to get through the rest of everybody's notes here.
	We have.
	Oh, she just went to the bathroom.
	Okay.
	Why don't we get to Tony then?
	Tony, you said you've been, well, we went over this earlier.
	You've been single since age 23.
	You're now 41, never married, no children.
	You hate online dating.
	It's a nightmare.
	Why are we doing this?
	Funniest stories are bad message exchanges.
	Once a guy stiffed me with the bill when he went to the bathroom.
	Yeah, we were having dinner, and then I guess he was done.
	So he just.
	Yeah, he went to the bathroom, and he never came back.
	How long to wait for?
	15, 20.
	Did he text you, like, peace out?
	No.
	Did you, like, order a lot of food or something?
	No, he had like chicken wings and fries and stuff.
	Yeah, oh, yeah, we had dinner.
	Talk about classy.
	And then you said, why do people move so fast?
	It's gross.
	And this isn't the movies when I say I am dating, I want to browse the market, but then men think I'm sleeping around and I'm not.
	It's all these hoes that give good women a bad name.
	So I don't chat exclusively and it takes time to get to know someone.
	And I don't have time to go on walks and drink coffee with one man at a time.
	It doesn't mean I'm sleeping around.
	Also, I'm only looking for actual men.
	So there's a couple things there.
	You want to browse the market, but then men think you're sleeping around and you're not.
	I guess I was just thinking of one specific chat exchange where I was chatting with someone and then he was like, hey, I thought we were chatting.
	What happened?
	And I was like, oh, sorry, I was just chatting with someone else.
	He's like, this isn't going to work out.
	Like, I don't do multiple people.
	And I was like, oh, sorry, I don't chat exclusively.
	I'm just.
	What do you mean, where are you chatting with them?
	Yeah.
	This was at a time when I was trying online dating, and I have since given that up.
	But you told him you were chatting with someone else, girl?
	I'm doing this all wrong.
	I came here for the lessons others.
	Well, you should.
	Not really.
	Well, as a guy, would you be like, sorry, I can't answer the phone.
	I'm on the phone with my other girl.
	Like, of course you wouldn't say that.
	Well, that's not.
	When you say that, that sounds like you're dating both of them.
	And like intimate, there's intimacy involved there.
	So I think that you said your point was that you'll date multiple men.
	You're not sleeping with them.
	You're just going on dates, right?
	At a time, I would schedule maybe two or three coffee dates in the same week.
	Yeah.
	None of those ever got a second date.
	I mean, because once I would move towards a second or a third date, then, you know, there's a spark.
	There's a spark if I'm agreeing to meet with you again.
	Okay.
	You, and when it, the two to three dates a week?
	Oh, was that like pretty frequent for a period?
	No, I usually only last online for like two or three weeks at a time.
	Like I only buy a month just to force myself to stick around for a minute.
	Usually after like two days, I'm like, why are you looking at me?
	Gross.
	You said one time your friend set you up with her friend.
	He was very obese.
	He was so very obese.
	I'm like, whoa, well, I know what you think of me.
	He had money, but that doesn't cancel out.
	This was the first message I sent you.
	I was drinking a little bit that night.
	That's okay.
	Yeah, I had a friend set me up with someone, and so it was a blind date.
	I went on a blind date.
	And I felt like I deserved a warning because he would need a seatbelt extender.
	He was a little robust, was he?
	He was a little robust.
	Big back.
	Big front.
	Mid-back.
	Money isn't everything.
	Money's very insignificant, actually.
	All you need is enough.
	Compared, like To you, though, like, was he was significantly bigger.
	I don't need a seatbelt extender.
	Okay.
	Just uh, I'm just gonna circle back to the first uh mark barometer that I said.
	All right.
	Uh, okay, and then you said, here's a hot take with a general degree of relativity.
	Penis size cancels out body count.
	I think I should have said that the other way around.
	Body count cancels out penis size.
	What does that explain it?
	So, essentially, if you have a really high body count and you've seen and touched many of them, then your barometer is your scale, your sample size is wide and deep.
	And if you only had one or two, then you wouldn't even know the difference.
	You would just have one and enjoy one.
	But I also qualified that with a red.
	Can you just clarify?
	Penis size cancels out body count.
	I should have said it the other way around.
	Body count cancels out penis size, but it goes by.
	I don't even understand what you mean in that way.
	So, if you didn't have such a high body count, then penis size wouldn't matter so much to you.
	I see, okay.
	And I also clarify or qualified it with a general degree of relativity.
	I mean, if you have a micro and it's your first one that you ever saw, then you might talk to your friends.
	Is this normal?
	How small are they supposed to be?
	I know the smart out start out small, but don't they get bigger?
	How much bigger?
	It's not getting very much bigger.
	Sure, yeah.
	You said that you want to honor and worship a man, but you would never bow to a man, even if he's your king.
	I'm not a peasant, I'm the queen.
	It was the first time that I ever saw you present the bowing argument that I had big feelings, and that's when I messaged you or got on your Insta, and I was like, It felt like the type of ask where you would, so when you suggested it, you never had the video before, and when you first suggested it, because it's not part of our American culture, the imagery that it drew up for me was like this big, grand bow that was kind of a production.
	But when I saw your video, I was like, oh, it's quaint, it's simple, it's an acknowledgement.
	And I think I would need a tit for tat.
	What do you mean?
	He would have to bow back to you?
	No, but I think I would enjoy forehead kisses.
	And so you would bow to you or bow to a man.
	I wouldn't bow to any man for the record, but a man who I really adored, I would be willing to bow for him, to him.
	If I get forehead kisses, that could be our trade.
	That's something that would be important to me.
	Why does it have to be a trade?
	Why do you need me to bow?
	Because I want to bow.
	Well, the way that you frame it sounds transactional, like everything you do in a relationship has some type of transactional purpose.
	I don't think that relationships or healthy marriages operate off of transaction.
	They operate around mutual love and adoration.
	So the thing is, if a man wants to be bowed to, right, and a woman adores him, why does there need to be a transaction?
	I don't really understand that part of it.
	It seems to me that it's just obstinate or they just don't want to do it.
	Right.
	And so in this way, since I don't want to do it, if you meet me in some place doing something that you don't want to do, then it's acceptable.
	Well, I guess I wouldn't just start from the assumption that you don't want to do it.
	I would think that you would want to make me feel loved, just like I'm trying to make you feel whatever it makes you feel by being bowed to.
	I don't know what do you get out of it.
	But this is the thing, right?
	It's like, say this guy makes you feel loved in a thousand different ways, right?
	Just not in that way.
	He considers this to be a grandiose posture from you to observe your submissive nature to his authority.
	So that's what he requires of you.
	Right.
	Why does he need to do anything back?
	Like, what's even wrong with requiring that to begin with, really?
	You know, after this topic was presented, I started noticing of myself that when I would walk into a room with people that I want to acknowledge or honor, I noticed that like when I come into a room, I kind of give a little nod.
	And I was like, oh, I wonder if this is related to what you're expressing or asking for is that nod is kind of like the beginning of a bow.
	No, that's the no, that's acknowledged.
	Misunderstanding.
	Here, just before we get into it, so the panel is kind of more privy to what we're talking about.
	Go ahead and play the bow video.
	This is my ex-girlfriend.
	I took this video.
	Boom, huge bow.
	Taught her how to do that.
	So this is like after a long podcast day, like long day of work, you know, just getting home.
	She's like getting the laundry all done.
	And she has the dinner ready.
	So this is kind of like the ideal dynamic for me.
	Like she wasn't perfect, of course, but you know.
	So dinner ready, like there was the beer.
	She opened the beer and played again.
	Let it.
	Boom.
	Huge battle.
	So that's, this is my expectation for a girlfriend.
	I expect it honestly on the first date.
	I need the bow on the first date.
	Why are you looking at me that way?
	Why do you need the bow on the first date?
	Tilt your mic down, bro.
	Just leave that shit there.
	Come on, bro.
	I'm changing the positions.
	This is why the mic is not just you don't need to explain that.
	Just do it.
	Why do you need the bow?
	Well, I need you to tilt your mic down a little bit and then I can tell you why.
	Why do you need the bow?
	Respect.
	You do not feel respected without the bow?
	This is a huge issue.
	This is a problem.
	This is the huge issue.
	Why?
	It's monumental.
	Because this really has to do with the self-perception of a man.
	Why don't you feel respected without the fucking bow?
	What's the wow?
	No, I still feel respected.
	I need more respect, though.
	Why?
	What have you heard?
	What happened?
	What's that?
	Why the presidents do not need the bow from any person that they meet or any other leaders or the people that made it?
	Gradually in Japan, the hot country of the day.
	Everybody bows to each other and I kind of love it.
	Are you going to hit a bow real quick?
	I'm literally like that girl.
	I swear to God.
	Okay, let's see it right now.
	You want me to bow?
	For me.
	You want me to stand up?
	Stand up, yeah.
	Let's see it.
	Wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, okay.
	You got to do it on camera.
	Wait, they can't even see you.
	Here, go over there.
	Go behind the chair.
	Go behind the chair.
	Go kind of like, wait, this way a little bit.
	No, back that way?
	A little more?
	A little more.
	The microphone is a little back that way.
	You keep getting, bro.
	By the way, it looks like the microphone's your penis.
	I was looking out for you, bro.
	It looks funny.
	Surprise.
	That was good.
	That was good.
	Well done.
	So yeah, that's my requirement.
	I'm very low maintenance, as you can tell.
	I wonder why.
	Why is it so hard for you to just scoot your chair into the table?
	Like, I don't get it, bro.
	Can't you just scoot your shit into the table?
	Nah, bro.
	I can't because her knees are here and I don't have enough space for my knees.
	All right, well, fuck the table then.
	Fuck the table.
	Fuck the whole pod.
	Fuck this.
	I'm kidding.
	Shitty small space.
	Yeah.
	I've softened to the bow since I first wrote your message.
	I wrote you a message the first time I heard.
	Going around the table.
	Would you bow for your man?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	For the right man.
	No.
	No.
	Oh, my.
	After he bows for me.
	All right.
	And send the mic, please.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Wait, everybody said yes, except.
	I'm going to start doing that.
	Actually, maybe you just put us on game.
	The feminist mind virus wants to tell you you shouldn't do this.
	But like, if your goal is to actually secure the man, I want my man to be happy.
	You'll like it.
	And the man will be clean.
	Dinner will be ready.
	I'm literally, I think that girl is great.
	Like, honestly.
	All these women, you guys are like complaining.
	Not you guys necessarily, but a lot of women are complaining.
	Oh, it's so hard out there dating.
	I can't find a relationship.
	It's like, why not try certain things to make yourself more appealing?
	Set yourself apart.
	First time you bow.
	Hit the bow, ladies.
	I'm just saying, just try it.
	You can try it if you got a boyfriend.
	Just do it to a boyfriend.
	So, Tiffany.
	I have a question on it.
	I'm wondering.
	I knew a guy.
	I was talking, well, a person I was recently talking to.
	Oh.
	He said, oh.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Wait, did you freeze?
	Well, I just, I have the moderation delay.
	So, actually, okay, okay.
	Bam.
	Walking Roscoe underscore on underscore YouTube donating $1,000.
	Pop champagne.
	Yo, Roscoe.
	Thank you, Madam.
	Sorry for the delay.
	This group of gals are worth their diameter killing personalities weight in gold.
	Yo, walking Roscoe.
	Sorry to interrupt you there, Andrew.
	I'll just let this other one come in.
	Colleen Pop, interrupt away.
	I'll let this one come in.
	We had a delay on and I didn't catch it.
	Just get me the ball and I'll open it.
	Perceptions music donated $99.99.
	Thank you.
	Brian, when your videos broke people out of the normal knife and opened their minds.
	Black girl, you're cute, but you need to marry a white boy from the culturally appropriate.
	He called it.
	Wait, what the?
	Anyway, this guy I was talking to, he actually said something about this bow thing that I thought was pretty interesting.
	I'll get the panel's take on it.
	So I understand that there's a lot of women who would be uncomfortable with the bow.
	But he said, listen, this girl that he was with, she likes to get choked.
	She likes it.
	That's her big thing.
	And he's super uncomfortable with it.
	He does not like it.
	But he does it for her anyway because she likes it, even though it makes him uncomfortable.
	He still does it because she likes it.
	If that's the case, right, I don't think anybody would object to that.
	That he does this because she enjoys it.
	So what would we're comparing this to the idea of the bow?
	Isn't this basically the same thing?
	Like, okay, you're uncomfortable with it, but so what?
	You do it for him anyway because he likes it.
	Isn't that basically the same thing in reverse?
	I don't know.
	I feel like I want to make my man feel like a king.
	Like, I don't know.
	If that's what it takes, then that's what it takes.
	I actually looked it up after I, like a day after I sent that.
	That message asking, do queens bow to their kings?
	And there were different schools.
	Yeah, there were different schools of thoughts.
	They do.
	And I was surprised to learn that.
	Yes, not only do they, but it was a requirement in most courts that they did, upon acknowledgement, bow and in many cases, kneel before their king before they were even allowed to take the throne for the day, for the business of the court.
	So I mean, that's what thrones were.
	It was to oversee the business of the court.
	But in any case, to my question, if she likes to, in this case, if she likes to get choked and he's doing that for her and he doesn't like it, it makes him uncomfortable, but she likes it, right?
	Unless you see a problem with that, I don't see how this wouldn't just be the same thing in reverse.
	Yeah, that's actually a fair analogy, and it makes more sense to compare those things than the tit for tat that I proposed because it would instead of a tit-for-tat or a trade, rather, it's, hey, this is how I want to be loved.
	And then can you just jot that down and remember it?
	Yeah.
	See, that makes more sense.
	Yeah.
	Do you have like a tongue there?
	Bro, they don't sell the same champagne bottle.
	It's one of these not there.
	I don't get to twist it six times.
	I don't get to twist it six times.
	It's one of these fucking weird ass.
	It's not a normal.
	Bro, it's not fucking brand.
	I'm not going to do it.
	I'm not going to let you get either of these chats, but the big capital L's just put L's for Brian.
	Bro, I'm killing it with the champagne bottles.
	And like, it's one of these retarded new bottles that doesn't have the little twist six times.
	And then it just give them the L.
	It won't fucking open.
	It's an L. Do you still have the cage?
	Yeah, can we?
	There wasn't even a cage.
	It's one of these California.
	Oh my God, bro.
	Fuck this brand, bro.
	I'm just going to put this blend.
	Yo, fuck the shitty ass brand, bro.
	It says to twist.
	It is like the cheapest champagne you can buy.
	Hey, don't say that.
	This is pre- Bro, look, it's got this dumbass fucking cap.
	It doesn't even fucking twist.
	Does it have a broken seal?
	Do you have to break a seal?
	You have to break the seal.
	Yeah.
	Look, it doesn't know what it is.
	I'm not going to do it.
	I'm going to add it to the women so they can open the bottle.
	Good for you.
	I twisted it, bro.
	I fucking twisted it, dude.
	Fuck this, bro.
	Roscoe, fuck you.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	Did you?
	Roscoe, thank you for the champagne.
	Bro, Roscoe, I'm going to have to get a different champagne bottle.
	You wouldn't want a woman to be able to open that and not you, right?
	All right, here, Anissa, sit down and you try.
	Oh, God.
	Don't forget to bow.
	Don't let Tony write.
	I loosened it.
	You got this.
	Is he back there fighting with it?
	Is he fighting with it?
	Oh, no.
	He gave it to Anissa.
	Sit down.
	Pass the box.
	All right, go ahead, Anissa.
	Wait, did you know how to open one?
	I'm underage.
	Okay, that's not good, bro.
	Watch, I loosened that shit.
	I loosened that shit.
	Open the thing, bro.
	Stop raising it.
	Open it.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Oh.
	Oh!
	I love that for you.
	Thank you.
	No, you're reversing.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, no.
	I thought it was great, Grant.
	Woo!
	Woo!
	See, I loosened that shit for her, bro.
	I loosened it.
	Okay, can we get some cups or something?
	Who wants the champagne?
	Wait, hold on.
	Let me check the.
	The fuck was that?
	What the fuck was that, bro?
	Like, literally.
	Wait, hold on.
	Champagne?
	Champagne?
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	You're 21, right?
	Yeah.
	Champagne?
	Yes.
	Okay, all right.
	So everybody decides.
	Yeah, let's get rid of the plates.
	Anissa can grab those.
	All right, Roscoe.
	Roscoe, thank you.
	Thank you very much for the champagne pop.
	Look, I was doing really good there with the, but they got rid of the bottles, the other champagne bottles, so I had to buy.
	My syllable.
	Hold on, what's that?
	I got something.
	Wait.
	I'm never going to financially recover from this.
	It's Andre.
	I think it'll be fine.
	It's so over.
	It's so over.
	Here, I'll let these other TTSs come through while we get the champagne.
	These mates donated $100.
	Blue, you want children.
	Loving yourself is loving your child.
	Your nose job can't change your genes.
	They see mom hates their nose so much.
	She had hers fixed.
	Generational self-hatred is born.
	Why are you so obsessed with me?
	She doesn't get one.
	I got two?
	No, no, no.
	So that's still not as bad one time I was in the studio.
	No, I can't.
	I'm alright.
	The legendary trash pan donated $100.
	Chair 3, baby girl, you are looking at it the wrong way.
	You pop me a little boat.
	I immediately touch your cheeks and run my fingers through your hair and pull you in for a full body kiss.
	Benefits BBG.
	Finish the cumoring.
	This cooming is out of control.
	One time I was trying to polish off the champagne bottle in the studio.
	Remember that, Brian?
	And then I spilled it all over myself.
	So I think that was the worst L. Probably.
	Probably.
	All right, cheers to, oh no, Roscoe.
	Wait, hold on.
	wait wait before we do the cheers he sent another one oh no roscoe you've donated 1000 dollars My hands are cramping.
	for suffering through San Diego weather IQ collective which of these will be the crazy cat lady or toy chihuahua in the tiny purse chick uh Roscoe.
	My carpal tunnel.
	I've already got a carpal tunnel.
	Give me a different brand, though.
	We have a couple different brands.
	Give me a different brand.
	Here's to.
	Cheers to Walking Roscoe.
	We're about to do round two.
	You got cheers with your water or whatever, ladies.
	That's bad luck.
	Yeah, I heard that.
	It's bad luck.
	Is it?
	Okay, never mind.
	Oh, yeah.
	Thank you, sir.
	Thank you.
	Oh, this one's good.
	I got this one.
	I got this one.
	All right.
	San Diego Weather IQ Collective.
	That's so cool.
	Oh, that champagne's better than the other brand.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Imagine if I can't get it.
	This is your redemption arc, bro.
	This is your redemption arc.
	Imagine if I gave it to like the one of the two.
	Never mind.
	Pass the buck here, bro.
	This is on you.
	Imagine if I gave it to Cena and she just like opened that shit super easy after I loosened it for, of course.
	Pull that up.
	I'll read it really quick.
	Yo, realistic heart, thank you so much.
	Excuses, take the L can't represent.
	Amen.
	Look, watch, watch.
	Here's Redemption.
	Here's Redemption, Roscoe.
	I appreciate you doing the second champagne pop because this is my redemption.
	This one has the cage.
	Bro, you got to do it with the same bottle.
	Yeah.
	Uh-oh.
	You can't redeem yourself.
	You got to do it with the same bottle.
	Holy fuck, bro.
	What the fuck?
	Oh, no.
	Oh, no.
	Uh-oh.
	Hold on.
	I got it.
	I got this.
	Oh, oh.
	Oh, check this shit.
	Ah!
	Ah!
	Oh fuck.
	You have to warm me, though.
	Oh, man.
	Move it up.
	What the fuck, bro?
	It's that carpal tunnel's no joke.
	Bro, what the fuck, dude?
	Fucking Trader Joe's.
	I'm fucking my shit up.
	Come on, you fucker.
	Yeah, that's right, baby.
	Get it!
	Pass it over.
	Yo, 07's in the chat.
	goodnight guys oh my god What the fuck, bro?
	Oh, fuck it.
	Hold on.
	Let me catch my breath.
	Is this a bit?
	What are you talking about?
	No, it's not a bit.
	Oh, wait.
	Wait.
	Oh, fuck.
	You have to warm it up.
	Oh, fuck.
	Hang on, show us the top of that bottle so that we know it's not already open.
	What are you talking about?
	Yeah, show us the top of the bottle so we know it's not already open.
	Do you have to take the paper towel off of it?
	Take it off, Brian.
	Oh, okay.
	Have you ever done this before?
	I'm never gonna financially recover from this little thing.
	I want to be impressed with that.
	It looks like you gotta exercise that hand more.
	Look, I don't watch porn and I don't do that, okay?
	That's why I don't masturbate.
	Shake weight.
	I don't masturbate.
	That's why I can't open the champagne bottle.
	It's all you fucking coomers in the chat with your fucking masturbation grip that allows you to do this.
	But because I am a gentleman and a scholar and all you fucking masturbating D-Gen Coomers in the chat because you guys fucking masturbate.
	And I'm using my right hand.
	I'm a lefty.
	So if I did masturbate, I use my left hand.
	I'm not using my left hand because.
	Masturbate with the brand.
	don't do that okay bro what the fuck Who pranked me and super glued these fucking champagne bottles?
	Pass it over, see if she can pop it again, Brian.
	Shit.
	We should put like a countdown.
	Careful, babe.
	Point it up.
	Point it up.
	Oh my god.
	Bro.
	Dude.
	Do we have a different brand?
	I kind of just want to do that.
	Do we have another one?
	Wait, not...
	Dude, you need to shake him.
	Look at my fucking...
	Dude, my hands is like in pain right now.
	Look at this.
	I gotta ice my hand now, boys.
	Okay, okay, okay.
	Here, I'll pour the champagne.
	Wait, is that yours?
	No, it's his mine.
	Okay.
	Who wants more champagne?
	Everybody?
	Okay.
	I'm gonna chick.
	Here's what I was doing.
	I was signed episode where the chick like broke all the lobster with her hands.
	I'll pass it down to you if you guys just pour it for yourselves, okay?
	Yeah, I've seen it.
	Okay, sorry, guys.
	I'm sorry.
	Shnico 04 donated $100.
	Oh my god.
	We are watching Brian finally getting the gym doing his workout.
	Struggling with a champagne bottle for 15 minutes.
	Holy shit.
	Boys.
	Oh my God.
	I'm out of breath, boys.
	Thank you.
	And those are definitely damn different.
	Look.
	Look, man.
	My staff super glued as a prank.
	They must have super glued the champagne bottles.
	I destroyed 50%, 90% of the super glue, and I loosened it for the women.
	Yeah.
	I don't understand.
	I deserve it.
	Wimpy, I was talking about grip strength.
	Like, do some deadlift or something.
	I was talking about grip strength.
	Like, do some deadlift or something.
	All right.
	Thank you, realistic heart.
	I appreciate that.
	Okay, well, here's another cheers.
	Walking Roscoe, if you send another one, I literally will.
	And I'll send another one.
	I have to let her run the show.
	She gets the whatever channel.
	All right.
	Cheers to Roscoe.
	Thank you, Roscoe.
	Cheers.
	Damn, that was.
	Oh, man.
	Good, good talk.
	Good talk.
	Yeah, it's double shot, Brian.
	That was beautiful.
	That was beautiful.
	Well, Roscoe, thank you very much for your generosity.
	Strength in your hands.
	You should try one.
	I don't drink alcohol, Andrew.
	How about that?
	Okay, why is the okay?
	I have to know.
	What's up, Andrew?
	How come the water you drink is always green?
	Is always what?
	Green.
	Green?
	Andrew, get your first off, get your eyes chat.
	It's urine-colored.
	Get it fucking right.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Why?
	Why?
	Okay, you want to know the secret juice?
	I'll tell you the secret juice.
	Andrew, I will tell you the secret juice if, what's in the secret juice, if you put two cigarettes in your nose.
	Cross.
	And do the rest of the show.
	No, just kidding.
	I don't know.
	Chat, what do you want Andrew to do for me to reveal what is in the secret juice?
	I think, Andrew, you have to.
	I can't think of anything.
	I need to say five nice things about women.
	Let's manage expectations here, okay?
	I mean, come on, cut the guy some slack.
	Give him a break.
	That's sass.
	Hold on.
	Why not just ask me to solve world hunger while you're at me?
	I don't know, man.
	Sounds like a lot of work.
	It's crazy, man.
	Oh, my God.
	Andrew, I will reveal what is in the secret juice if you.
	Somebody help me, please.
	I can't think when I'm tipsy.
	Stand up and bow to us.
	I like that one.
	To the women.
	Yeah, right.
	Oh, that was funny.
	Right, a reasonable request.
	Crickets.
	Okay, look, I'll just reveal.
	It's water.
	A bit of lemon.
	Honey.
	And two recolas per bottle.
	Two of the lemon mint recolas.
	Is that for your throat?
	Yes.
	Oh, okay.
	Indeed.
	And the honey soothes the throat, too.
	Okay, that makes sense.
	Yeah, you know, we do a lot of talking, Andrew.
	In fact, Andrew, if you want the recipe, I can give it to you.
	No, I'm all good.
	Because you talk a lot.
	You might get.
	Listen, heaven forbid.
	Something happens.
	You get stray in your voice.
	You talk too much.
	You're doing like 20 TikTok invasions a week.
	Yeah, but I have been voted multiple times as having the sexiest voice on TikTok.
	So that's cool.
	It's extremely.
	It's stated all the time, and I have no idea why.
	It's very bizarre.
	we got donated $100 brian love you bro but that's the fattest hell you have ever taken even more than the very social are they still spamming l's in the chat um Are they still spamming the L's?
	Probably not, but now that you reminded them, Andrew.
	Thank you.
	Unbelievable.
	How could you betray me?
	Friends like me.
	Look, you know what?
	This isn't the first time I failed to open multiple champagne bottles, okay?
	Damn, Trader Joe's.
	Why did you get rid of the German bottles?
	Okay.
	good talk uh we were we're talking about you see why the french lose all the wards Look, Andrew.
	Look, okay.
	The French are very physically strong people.
	Look, you're an islander.
	You're an islander, Andrew.
	Yeah, the islander that's won every war with France.
	That is not true, Napoleon.
	It is true.
	We beat Napoleon, boy.
	We beat Napoleon.
	Well, you guys have a geographical advantage because.
	Wait, but your own islanders, you're Irish, Andrew.
	Your own islanders.
	You're warring amongst yourselves.
	Okay, so I'm Irish and English.
	Oh, excuse me.
	Excuse me, Andrew.
	Excuse me.
	Look.
	So half of me was sent in conscription to the other half of me to kick the holy shit out of all of you.
	You see?
	That's how that worked.
	Look, I'll tell you.
	Look, here's why you guys maybe, if I even grant your argument that you guys have greater physical strength, is your cuisine is dog shit.
	You literally, like your bread, you have to like have fucking strong man strength to break the British bread.
	Us everything is hard for you.
	In France, you don't have our cuisine, Andrew.
	And that is precisely why I have these dainty piano fingers.
	Maybe if you weren't so damn busy eating all of that delicious food, the Germans wouldn't have taken over your country in three weeks.
	Look, Andrew, there's geographical, there's geopolitical, you know, look, you're on an island.
	You have fucking advantages.
	France, Germany, they're next to each other.
	Okay?
	That's how it is.
	And you lost the country that was right next to you in three weeks.
	And they made your country surrender in the same carriage that your country made them surrender in after the First World War.
	I just want to point that out.
	I want to go home.
	Look, Andrew.
	Look, that may be true, but we have contributed more to the cuisine of the world.
	And that means something.
	So take that and put it in your pipe and smoke it.
	Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
	All that in the bag of chips.
	So it's an argument from food.
	It's an argument from your cuisine.
	Yes.
	What is fancy?
	What French dish is even famous?
	Like a croissant?
	That's the thing you can get at Burger King.
	That guess.
	We can literally go through a Burger King in a croissant with a piece of sausage on it.
	That's what you're famous.
	Yeah, that's cultural appropriation.
	And I'm very offended that Burger King is appropriating our cuisine.
	Yeah, I'm going to go get a sausage croissant tomorrow in honor of the French people from Burger King.
	Look, Andrew, you're just jealous about things that you know I can articulate, but I'm not going to because you would be embarrassed.
	You would just be embarrassed if I did.
	So take the L, Andrew, and just take, just, you know, I'll just take the L. That's fair.
	So, anyways.
	The legendary Fresh Panda donated $100.
	Brixon, bro, bro.
	Bro.
	For hosting Manosphere content, that was the least manly thing ever.
	Now, Brent, chair 3BG, you will wear the finest dresses and jewelry at my side.
	Let me at Demfeet go.
	Okay, hang on, hang on.
	And Brian, okay, no, no fucking way I'm letting this go.
	There is no way on earth that I'm going to let a foot pick requesting degenerate like yourself ever say a word cross about Mr. Atlas because man, your coomerism is on never before seen scales.
	You're donating to a show to request feet picks, you fucking degenerate.
	Okay, I'm just saying.
	Panda, do it again.
	That's a fat L. Do it again for me.
	I'm just saying, that's a fatter L than can't open the bottle, bro.
	Wait, say that again.
	Panda, do it again for me.
	That's fucking disgusting.
	Oh my gosh, diff levels are over.
	Why did you encourage it?
	Why did you encourage it?
	Oh, man.
	I'm literally giving you more money by provoking.
	Yeah, but can you just be honest and say you're never going to send this guy feet picks, right?
	Huh?
	What'd you say?
	Sorry.
	You're not going to send this guy feet picks, are you?
	Nah.
	No, I didn't think so.
	Landgraf von Leibier donated $100 vision in seat number two.
	Put the toes on the table.
	Lincoln bio.
	Disavow.
	Disavow.
	You know what's fucked up?
	You know, like Trash Panda did all that.
	And I feel like you're actually considering it, though.
	So maybe it wasn't all for not from Trash Pan.
	That actually makes me second.
	I'm like, damn.
	Maybe she's considering sending this guy feet pick.
	It seemed like you were, it seemed like you had to think about it for a few minutes.
	You were just like, well, you know, maybe.
	I'll put all 10 digits on a photo for, you know, like it seemed like there was a possibility for trash pan.
	So, oh, we were talking about the bow video, so we'll wrap up on that and then we'll get through the rest of the notes.
	In addition to the bowing, on the first date, I expect her to do my laundry.
	How do you get her to your house on the first date?
	Easy, bro.
	You picked hoes?
	Huh?
	You picked a hoe that would go to your house on the first date.
	I picked a very classy girl to go to my house.
	All the classy girls go to your house on a first date.
	Of course.
	That's how it is.
	Do my laundry, fold.
	In fact.
	Wait, what is this criticism?
	You're talking to other men on your first date.
	Like, what are you talking about?
	What do you mean?
	That's not a good criticism to be like, Brian has a girl over to his house on the first date.
	If you're texting other guys on the first date, it's like, what?
	Not on the date.
	Just pre-said it was on the date.
	No, not on the date.
	While I'm chatting with some, this happened one time when I was chatting with someone and then he was like, where'd you go?
	I thought we were chatting.
	And I was like, oh, sorry, I was on another chat.
	That wasn't on a date.
	It wasn't on a date.
	I was on my couch.
	I was getting to know you, FaZe, right?
	I stated earlier, you can't really get to know somebody via messaging.
	I'm just trying to get to the date so I can actually meet you.
	I can learn so much more in five minutes of being in person.
	Not that I know everything about you in 10 minutes.
	That's not my claim.
	But I can catch a vibe where you can't catch a vibe in messaging, not in my opinion.
	I don't mean to be rude, but you're too old to say that.
	Catch a vibe?
	Okay.
	Damn.
	I think that the hippies came up with that shit, though, Brian.
	Wasn't that hippies who came up with that?
	Like, I'm too old to say.
	No, no, no, but I'm not trying to be mean to you.
	I'm too old to say catch a vibe.
	How old are you?
	35.
	How would you like me to phrase it?
	No, but you can say catch a vibe.
	No, no.
	Yeah.
	You are a hippie.
	For example, I'm 35.
	Okay, hold on.
	I'm not allowed to say bet.
	I can't say bet.
	Who told you that?
	That's a 90s.
	That's a 90s thing, though.
	Bet?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you're fucked up.
	I feel like you're not allowed to say catch a vibe.
	That's super like pastor.
	Although you're like, you're like, you know, you're cool.
	There's certain things I wouldn't say.
	No, I'm pretty sure.
	I'm pretty sure that's a 90s thing, bro.
	No, I was in the 90s.
	I was in the 90s too.
	People said I've never heard in a movie or anything like from that era or even when I was young, people weren't saying bet in the way they're saying bet.
	Like it's like an acknowledgement, like bet.
	Yeah.
	No, people are.
	Chat, we're.
	No, no.
	Yo, chat, chat.
	Did they say bet in the 20 gas layer?
	20.
	It's like a, within the 2020s thing.
	Here, I'm going to Google this shit.
	Hold on.
	Better.
	I can do so much more.
	I don't even know.
	Okay, actually, fuck it.
	Who cares?
	Okay, things for first date, but when it comes to doing my laundry, I take it a step further.
	She has to do that shit on a washboard.
	She doesn't get a laundry machine.
	I have a washboard that she has to use.
	Also, clotheslines.
	She doesn't get a dryer either.
	Also, I expect within the first three dates, she has to churn butter.
	That's right.
	If she doesn't know how to churn butter, she ain't the one.
	Have you met Nara Smith?
	No.
	Oh.
	I think that's a good thing.
	I think at times that you're into the business.
	When it comes to laundry, right?
	When it comes to laundry, if she won't find someone who will.
	If she wanted to, she would.
	Also, she should be able to make me a quilt.
	A what?
	A quilt.
	You don't know about quilts, Cena?
	You should get with the game.
	Get with the program.
	You don't know about quilts?
	Bet.
	Bet.
	I also would like a pair of moxicans.
	Mac moccasins.
	My bad.
	And she has to knit me a cardigan.
	Oh.
	That's right.
	That's what I deserve because I am a king.
	According to who.
	A virgin dwarf under 25 who knows how to knit, charm butter.
	Jesus.
	Wash it.
	You know your words.
	I know my words.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	That's good.
	I'm a strong, independent king.
	King.
	All the knitters I know are virgins under 25.
	Are you okay?
	Yeah, are you?
	Are you?
	Because what you just mentioned, I mean.
	I identify.
	Okay, I gotta take it right.
	Oh, I think those people were right.
	I don't know if you can hear her.
	She's cackling in the bathroom.
	Wait.
	Wait, be quiet.
	Can you guys hear that?
	Yeah, she's cackling in the bathroom.
	Okay.
	Awkward.
	Wait, where were we?
	Okay, pre-show notes.
	Okay, back to the pre-show notes.
	So, why don't, really quick, Tiffany, why won't, you know, you're kind of traditional-ish, I guess.
	Yeah.
	Why don't you, why wouldn't you do the bow?
	Because I'm not your maid.
	I'm your wife.
	We're on equal standing.
	And we don't live in the 1950s.
	Well, you're Christian, right?
	Yeah, so what does that have to do with anything?
	Equal standing.
	What are you talking about?
	Yeah, it goes.
	What are you?
	An egalitarian Christian?
	Christianity is a patristic faith.
	Patriarchy.
	Yeah, it is.
	It is, but we're of equal value.
	Yeah, you're of equal ontological value.
	Nobody would ever say otherwise.
	Nobody would ever say that a woman is.
	By bowing, I'm kind of saying, it's like kind of implying that I'm like lesser than you.
	Ah, now we get to the heart of it.
	So what you're saying is, you don't want to do it because there's an implication there.
	So yes, Christianity is a patristic faith.
	You can see bowing all over the Bible.
	You bow to God.
	You're supposed to treat your husband submissively.
	If you're saying not bowing to your husband isn't Christian, that's just like so stupid.
	All right, well, I'd like to know then: are you supposed to submit to your husband as you are unto the Lord?
	Yes.
	Would you bow to God?
	Yes.
	Okay, then what's your argument?
	Your husband is not your God.
	I'm sorry.
	Are you supposed to submit to your husband as you would unto the Lord?
	Would you like me to read it for you?
	Here, I'll read it for you.
	I just want to make sure that we don't get this wrong.
	Right?
	We'll just make sure.
	This is Ephesians 5:22.
	Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.
	So I just want to know: is part of your submission to God bowing?
	That's for you.
	Go ahead, Tiffany.
	Oh, no, you're too good to have you.
	You're kind of interpreting it in a weird way.
	Answer the question.
	Yeah, so I'm just wondering: is part of your submission to God bowing?
	Technically, you kneel.
	Yeah, I mean, you kneel.
	You wouldn't bow.
	I'm sorry, you don't ever bow your head to pray.
	Damn.
	You do while you pray.
	Oh, you do.
	That's crazy.
	And who are you praying to?
	God.
	And is that a form of submission when you bow your head?
	Yeah.
	And are you supposed to submit to your husband as you do unto the Lord?
	It is a form of submission, but it's also kind of a form of worship.
	You wouldn't worship your husband.
	Andrew, ask that question again.
	Yeah, so here's the question.
	Very simple.
	You agree with me that you bow your head for prayer?
	Yes.
	And who are you bowing your head to?
	God.
	And is that a form of submission to God?
	Yes, but it's also a word.
	I don't know ourselves.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Let me ask the question.
	And do you agree that Ephesians 5.22 says, wives submit to your husbands as to the Lord?
	Yeah.
	Gotcha, bitch.
	Okay, so then if you are to bow to God as a form of submission and you are to submit to your husband as you win him to the Lord, what could your objection to bowing possibly be?
	Bowing is a form of worship.
	You don't worship your husband.
	Bowing is a form of worship.
	Yeah, it is.
	Prove it.
	You prove it.
	You don't need to prove it's your claim.
	Prove it isn't.
	How do I prove your claim that bowing is worship?
	Wait, also, Andrew.
	So you're saying in every Asian country when they bow to each other, they're worshiping each other?
	So they're all a bunch of heretics?
	No, it depends on the Christians in Asian nations are heretics.
	No.
	Because they bow to each other.
	Wives don't bow to their husbands.
	You do that with a stranger or someone older than you.
	As what?
	A sign of what?
	Respect.
	A sign of respect and submission to their station.
	Yeah?
	What do you mean their station?
	Submission to their station.
	In South Korea, North Korea, Japan, any of these Asian nations, if somebody is your boss, you bow as a form of submission to their authority, yeah?
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	That's really weird.
	So it's not heretical for them to do it, but somehow for you, it becomes worship.
	Can you explain how it's possible that you could submit to the people who are in the world?
	In Asia, the workers bow to their boss.
	They don't.
	Asian wives don't bow to their husbands.
	That's weird.
	Just one video Underscore YouTube donated $1,000 pop champagne One more round for the lightweight sitting in chair for Swan.
	I got this.
	Continue with the conversation.
	Go ahead, Tiffany.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So I'm sorry.
	This is very confusing to me.
	Where did you come up with the idea that Asian wives don't bow to their husbands?
	No.
	From being in Asia.
	Which part?
	South Korea.
	South Korea, they definitely bow to their husbands, yeah?
	No, they don't.
	I'm literally here.
	They definitely do.
	Yeah, they definitely do.
	No, they don't.
	Not only do they, so here's the thing, right?
	No, they don't.
	Okay, where's your proof?
	Where is your proof?
	That one video.
	And yeah, that chick bowed.
	That chick bowed.
	Yeah, she did.
	She gave him a highly traditional family, and she bowed all the time.
	Suck it.
	Suck it.
	That's right, baby.
	That's right.
	Took three tries.
	W. Suckers.
	You thought you were going to get a hat-trick, Roscoe, but no.
	Oh, denied.
	This age one.
	Denied.
	Denied, Roscoe.
	Boom.
	Roasted.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Keep talking about that.
	So you, you speak, do you speak Korean?
	Yeah.
	Yogi Mekchu Jusio.
	Give me beer?
	Yeah, give me beer.
	Woman, give me beer.
	I only know that because my brother, right, stationed in Korea, came back with a Korean wife who bowed her fucking head to him all the time.
	So I'm pretty intricately familiar with the culture and the expression of the culture.
	And yeah, wives definitely bow to their husbands.
	No, they don't.
	I have like four aunts.
	Definitely do.
	Yeah, they definitely do.
	Yeah.
	It's very common.
	Now, maybe, now you could make the argument that some don't.
	I'm sure that they don't.
	But yeah, culturally, that was something that happened in Korea basically.
	In fact, for traditional women, right, that still happens to this day in Korea.
	No, I don't think so.
	Oh, okay.
	When's the last time you went to Korea?
	This summer.
	And you're saying that no wives are bowing their heads.
	No, that's so weird.
	That's just weird.
	No one does that.
	Yeah, they do it.
	But okay.
	I do want to say you've been in Korea.
	I haven't.
	I haven't been to Korea, but yeah.
	But again, it doesn't matter.
	You can still be familiar with the culture, even if you have not been in the culture.
	And in any case, none of that refutes the argument that bowing is worship.
	That would be saying that all Japanese people are worshiping anytime they bow to each other.
	That makes no sense.
	It depends on the culture.
	It depends.
	On the context.
	So why would the culture, why would the bow here instantly mean worship then?
	That makes no sense.
	We got to do a cheers really quick to Roscoe.
	By the way, the other three champagne bottles we have.
	Wait for me.
	Wait for me.
	I got to have the woman bring me down a drink.
	Oh, okay.
	Just give me one minute.
	Woman, I know you're listening to this broadcast.
	Bring down a double for me.
	And then fucking bow while you're at.
	No, I'm kidding.
	I'm joking.
	It was funny.
	But anyway.
	Oh, we have three remaining champagne bottles, and they're all the first brand that I struggled to open.
	You can still get your hat-trick, Roscoe.
	You can still get the hat-trick.
	Just saying.
	Just saying.
	Oh, we have our friend Selena Gournes.
	Selena Gornes donated $100.
	I have to sleep, but before I do, I have to say you're on Britain.
	Bet has been the thing since the 90s.
	Been saying it's my slang term origin.
	Which has many uses, but none are new.
	The slang term bet originated in African-American vernacular English, A-A-V-E, and likely comes from the gambling word world.
	Bet is used to express, okay, blah, blah, blah.
	Origin.
	Oh, fuck.
	The term was recorded in a collection of campus slang in the 1990s and was likely popularized by popular culture.
	Wait, wait, was this?
	Look, dude.
	When?
	Look, fuck Google.
	This is fucking bullshit.
	I did not start hearing bet used in this way until like 2020s.
	Until the 90s.
	Are you familiar with African-American vernacular English?
	Yes, I speak it fluently.
	Watch this.
	Don't do it.
	Don't do it.
	Oh, don't do it.
	Don't do it.
	I was just going to say.
	I wasn't going to say the N-word.
	You thought I was going to say the N-word or something?
	No.
	No.
	I was just going to say, word up.
	Fashizzle my nizzle.
	Keep my arms so brisle.
	Why you don't look at me that was.
	Bet.
	Bet, Brian.
	Bet.
	Right.
	I am.
	Not sure if I'm going to get canceled.
	Okay, so good talk.
	I tried to save it.
	I, you know, look, asked if I was fluent.
	Legendary trash pan that donated $100.
	Baby girl.
	Do you want a man who randomly touches the back of your neck, comes behind you while doing dishes, and embraces you, kissing you?
	Your hair is perfect right now and fits your beautiful face.
	Stop it.
	All right, Brian, I'm ready for the cheers now.
	You know what, Panda?
	By the end of this podcast, I start liking you.
	Thank you.
	To Roscoe.
	To Roscoe.
	Saloon.
	Saloon.
	Salud, Roscoe.
	What is he drinking?
	He's drinking double shots of vodka.
	Or no, it's Everclear, actually.
	He's tamed.
	Good talk.
	Okay, where were we?
	Ever clear.
	Ever clear.
	Telena Gornez donated $100.
	Okay, Brixon.
	Bet.
	Look, I never heard bet until 2021, maybe?
	Am I just getting.
	Yeah, you're insane, man.
	No, looked it up yourself.
	I'm getting gaslit.
	Yeah, maybe.
	Look, maybe the term existed in a small movies.
	It was in 90s movies and all the stupid com-coms.
	You'd hear some dummy say, bet.
	No.
	Somebody find me a clip, clip it, send it to me.
	If it's true, I will concede to Andrew that never mind.
	Anyways, good talk.
	Oh, how do you feel about the term cooked?
	Is it that's new?
	I love this term.
	Are you cooked?
	I'm kind of cooked.
	I'm like, at all.
	Do you guys use it?
	I love this.
	It just cracks me up all the time.
	Were you cooked before or after you got that back of head tattoo?
	No, I've been cooked since like four years old.
	It's just a, yeah.
	So, what's your mental diagnosis?
	No, no, I'm totally healthy.
	But you know, the goofy aspect of me?
	It's cooked.
	I'm totally.
	Oh, hey.
	Hey, Brian, I got the clip.
	I got the clip.
	It's from Kid Play, Brian.
	It's from Kid and Play.
	Bet, Brian.
	Bet, Brian.
	Say, what?
	What now, Brian?
	What now?
	All right.
	Send it to my Instagram, sir.
	Send it to my Instagram.
	DuckTales.
	Somebody said they found it.
	Somebody said they found it.
	Well, listen up.
	Okay.
	Sounds good.
	What were we talking about?
	Here, let's get through the notes.
	We got to get through the notes here.
	You know?
	Got to get through the notes.
	Going back to you, Tony.
	We talked about the obese guy.
	Okay, this whole stemmed from you said you want to honor and worship a man, but you never bow to a man, even if he's your king.
	So even like your perfect man, you wouldn't bow for your perfect man.
	I've already revised my position on this when we first started talking about it.
	That the more I've learned about what it looks like, it's not quite as big of a production as I originally imagined in my head.
	And when I saw the video, I've softened into this idea.
	But not for any man, and not on the first date, but for the right man, I would do what he needs to feel special.
	Sure.
	You said you want to be submissive to a man and follow his lead, but that doesn't mean that I shouldn't have any input that should be fairly considered in big decisions.
	Does negotiation and compromise have a place in relationship?
	How does that fit into absolute submission?
	Andrew probably would like to have a back and forth with you on this one.
	And can I add something to that?
	Sure.
	Because this is something that we talked about earlier.
	What if I'm the primary income earner in a relationship?
	And maybe that's not ideal, but when it comes to absolute, if I was more of the provider, would the expectation of the role change?
	Or would I be expected to relinquish all of my income to the man to make decisions with it?
	Yes, you would.
	And I'll explain why.
	I'll just dial.
	If I were to start dating Kylie Jenner, yeah, she's going to listen to me.
	I will explain my rationale before you say you want to die alone.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I like hearing your perspective.
	Yeah, let's start with this.
	If you had to put a value on something, what is the most valuable thing you can think of?
	The most valuable thing you could ever envision?
	The thing which, if it's taken away, can never be gotten back.
	I would say, I would say life.
	Life.
	Okay.
	Life.
	Would you disagree with that?
	No, you can never get that back.
	Yeah, right.
	Once it's taken, you can never get it back.
	A man's obligation is to die on your behalf.
	So if there's a threat or a danger to you, his job's to die before you die.
	You cannot replace that.
	So he cannot be replaced by anything else because his job is to sacrifice himself for you.
	So yeah, you give up the money and you give up the control, you give up power.
	But the exchange to all of that is that when the lifeboats go off of the Titanic, who gets in them first?
	Who gets in them first?
	Women and children.
	Yeah, women and children.
	So if the man is to be the sacrifice for you, he gives his life for you, then why is it problematic for you to turn over the dominance in a relationship to him?
	I don't want to be the dominant, but especially if I'm the breadwinner, I would want significant consideration for mine.
	Women don't die for men ever.
	They don't ever die for men.
	Men die for women all the time, nonstop.
	Women do not sacrifice their lives for men.
	You can't show me a historic standard anywhere where that's ever happened.
	They don't do it.
	There may be some exceptions where some woman has done self-sacrifice on behalf of a man for her life versus his.
	Essentially, it never happens.
	I mean, for all practical purposes, men are always the ones who give up their lives on behalf of women and children.
	Their actual life.
	Now, you can make an argument that, well, a woman gives up her life over years of time and blah, blah, blah.
	But that would apply to men, too.
	Men actually lay their lives down in defense of you, defense of the nation, defense of your home, defense of your honor, defense of your pride, defense of your name.
	They lay their lives down for everything.
	Here's an example of this, right?
	I just want to ask the panel, and we can ask the entire panel this question, and I think that through this, we'll be able to reason this out.
	If a man who you are with, you're walking down the street and another man insults your honor, do you think that it's appropriate?
	And would you want the man that you're with to protect your honor?
	Meaning, if a man you're with, you're walking down the street arm in arm, another guy comes by and pinches your ass, don't you prefer that your man turns around and smacks him across the mouth, raise a hand?
	Yeah, that's right.
	That's right.
	And hang on, when does that happen?
	In reverse, not often.
	So the thing is, is that men are always there putting by the way, a physical confrontation with another man doing that on your behalf leads to death.
	It leads to death for men.
	Just protecting your honor leads to death for men all the time.
	In fact, more men in the United States are killed with feet and hands than they are with AR-15s because this is such a happenstance that currently it happens so often that men engage in physical combat with each other, often on behalf of women's honor.
	This does not happen in reverse.
	So since that is the case, yeah, give up your money.
	Yeah, give up your money, give up your control, because that's what you get in exchange.
	We don't get that in exchange.
	Who's dying for us?
	Not you.
	Not women.
	Women aren't dying for men.
	Show me where women are collectively dying for men.
	Anywhere, ever.
	Nowhere.
	Nowhere.
	Go ahead.
	I'm waiting.
	I want to hear.
	Not giving birth to their child.
	When collectively can you guys name that women have ever died on behalf of men?
	Laid their lives down on behalf of men.
	Childbirth.
	No, they don't do it.
	During childbirth, they're not doing it on behalf of men.
	They're doing it on behalf of their children.
	They're doing it on behalf of the children.
	I think women are doing it on behalf of the baby that their man put inside of them.
	So I would argue that they are doing it for men.
	And a man is not physically capable of doing that.
	Now they kill their children.
	Now they kill them.
	They don't even bother having them in your life.
	Okay, nobody was talking about that.
	Yeah, but we are talking about that.
	Isn't half of the baby specialists.
	You saying that you will birth your child, you're not doing that on behalf of your man.
	That's insanity.
	A child can be a man as well, right?
	I think it means like you're a man, like your partner.
	Yeah, we're talking about somebody who is doing the thing for the purpose of the protection of X thing.
	Men lay their lives down, and the historic standard that I can appeal to is that men collectively always lay their lives down for women in their life.
	So protecting your baby?
	Hang on, stop, stop.
	Let me finish.
	The reverse never happens.
	Point to me where the reverse ever happens.
	Okay, so protecting your baby by giving childbirth isn't enough.
	I don't even know what that means.
	What does that even mean?
	So abortion or not, it's the same.
	It's not protecting your child?
	But if you're burying your child, you're not doing that on behalf of your man.
	You're doing that on behalf of you and the child.
	Yeah, so a child can be a man as well, right?
	No, a child's not a man.
	No.
	What?
	What?
	That would be a boy.
	Masculine then.
	I think that's just like a women's role, though, that men are not capable of.
	So, I mean, you are doing it on behalf of your joint couple as a woman, and you are risking your life.
	Men are expected to do this for strangers' children and strangers' women.
	Otherwise, we would not have the lifeboat analogy, would we?
	I think it's also kind of like a dangerous thing, though.
	I think that, like, you should answer to what I actually just said, which is why do we have the lifeboat analogy that women and children get on the children?
	Well, I'm not disagreeing with you.
	Those aren't my women and my children.
	Why do they get on the lifeboats first?
	I'm not disagreeing with you that that's a man's role, but I'm just saying that I do think that a woman going through childbirth is an example of her doing something that's risking her life on behalf of a man.
	They're not doing it on behalf of men.
	Demonstrate that.
	You're doing it on behalf of your husband.
	Behind a man.
	You're doing it on behalf of your husband who put the child inside.
	No, no, you're not doing it.
	First of all, most childbirths are not even done anymore by the husband.
	Why?
	Half these chicks get knocked up by some random guy they never even talk to again.
	How are you doing on behalf of men?
	Why do women and children get in the lifeboat?
	Because men have always been sacrificial lambs on behalf of other men and women and children.
	Because you're the weaker sexes and both women and children.
	Look, you laugh.
	How am I wrong?
	I'm sorry, are women the stronger or weaker sex?
	Does it have anything to do with women and children can inform the future more so than men?
	Like, children can grow up to be men.
	So one man can repopulate against 50 women, but women are limited to only being able to be pregnant from one man at a time.
	So no, that argument makes no sense either.
	But there have to be a lot of people.
	The truth is, is that one single man could repopulate the earth.
	One woman could not.
	One single man could repopulate the entire planet Earth.
	As long as there were women who could screw a different chick and impregnate her, a woman cannot do that.
	But that's why we need each other.
	When you talk about the necessity of the future, a single woman could not be necessary to the future, whereas a single man could be.
	Yeah, I agree that men and women should be on earth.
	Both of them.
	Oh, well, I mean, that's great.
	What a great argument.
	I also agree that they should be on earth.
	Yeah, men are stronger, but they need women.
	And women are not.
	I agree that whatever podcast studio should have windows.
	I mean, I don't know what that is.
	I agree as well.
	Yeah, we both need each other, right?
	Yes.
	So what?
	Yeah, well, okay, but this has nothing to do with my argument.
	This has nothing to do with my argument.
	Oh, but you can have the argument.
	Here's my argument.
	Ready?
	I'm going to tell you my argument again because you just don't seem to understand it, right?
	Men collectively lay their lives down for women.
	Women collectively do not lay their lives for women.
	What about women in the military?
	What about them?
	Are they not liable?
	I'm sorry.
	Do you think that the military is made up of mostly men or women?
	No, no, no.
	I'm just speaking about these specific women in the military.
	Who are they like?
	What do you think the word collectively means?
	I'm asking you a question, Andrew.
	Women in the military.
	What do you think?
	Women in the military.
	Restate my argument.
	I'm restating my question.
	Women in the military.
	I need you to contend with the argument that I made first.
	Can you restate my argument?
	This has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
	Can you restate my argument?
	Your argument is that women do not lay their lives down for men.
	Women in the military have signed up.
	That's not my argument.
	You're lying to me.
	Yes, the collective group of women in the military.
	Collectively, the group of men.
	What does the word collective mean?
	The group of women in the military, that would be the collective of women in the military, are laying their lives down.
	That is a collective of women.
	Okay, so just to get this right, just to get this right, I just want to make sure that we're correct here.
	Let us assume for a second that if we're looking at all the prisons in the United States with prison guards and you have one prison that has more female guards than men, but all the other prisons have more male guards than they do women, when you say the word who collectively make up the most amount of prison guards, you would say, well, yes, it's men, except in this one prison.
	Who gives a shit?
	It has no bearing on the argument at all.
	Okay, so women in the military are not laying their lives down for men.
	They're only laying their lives down for American women.
	I'll tell you what.
	Give me a war, name any war you want, and I'm going to tell you the combat deaths of women in that war from being in the military.
	Let's speak in present times.
	Let's speak in present times.
	Present war.
	There's present war.
	I'm talking about present wars that we are.
	We're talking about present wars too.
	Okay.
	Present war.
	Okay, I think that you're just upset that I disproved your point.
	And it's okay.
	It's okay.
	Women lay their lives down for men too.
	Can you answer my question?
	Can you give me a present war and I'll give you the deaths, the military deaths of the women's men.
	But there's not an equal number of men and women in the military or a majority of women in the military.
	So, of course, there's going to be more men who die.
	If you put more men out to die, more men will die.
	Then we can do it per capita, right?
	So we can take the percentage of women who are in the military who die versus the percentage of men.
	But are there women in the military dying on behalf of men?
	Yes or no?
	We can just do that by per capita, right?
	Okay.
	We can just do it per capita.
	Okay.
	No, I'm asking you: are there women in the military who are dying on behalf of men?
	There are some women who die in the military, yes.
	Okay, on behalf of men.
	That would not show that the collective of women are willing to die on behalf of men.
	I can deal with that.
	Well, I think that when the military is 50-50, let's revisit this conversation.
	And then I guess that'll be- Let's visit it right now.
	We have visited it, and I think you don't want to visit it anymore.
	I want to visit it right this second.
	I've been visited it.
	I've been visited it, and I told you that women.
	Give me a war in modernity, any war in fact that you want, and I will give you the combat deaths of women in that war.
	And we'll match them with women.
	But let's look at the military enrollment of women.
	It's not the same.
	Let me finish.
	I think currently we're in war with him.
	Let me finish so that you can understand my point.
	I will take the per capita deaths of women in that war, the percentage, and we'll match them towards men in the same role.
	Who do you think dies more?
	Okay, yeah, but are women assigned the same combat roles as men?
	Yes, that's what I just said.
	You're not even listening.
	So, why don't you watch that?
	But I'm saying women are willing to do those roles.
	Are they assigned to them, though?
	It's like talking to a brick wall.
	You don't even understand what I'm saying.
	I do understand what you're saying.
	You're saying per capita death.
	So, like, talking, I can give you the argument.
	Go ahead, go ahead.
	Okay.
	I will take all of the combat roles of women, all of them, match them against all the combat roles of men in the same exact capacity, and then we can see who dies more in those capacities in combat.
	Maybe women are just smarter.
	That's why they don't get killed.
	I'm going to get the argument out.
	You're already freaking out.
	I can't even get the argument out.
	Very calm.
	Yeah, okay.
	So, anyway, I will take all of the combat deaths, match it against the percentage of women in those roles versus men, and then we can determine per capita how many women in the same exact role die versus men.
	Which one do you think dies more in the role versus the percentage of them in that role?
	Can I respond, Andrew?
	Yes.
	I think you just proved that women do the job better and don't get killed.
	Ooh, I don't know.
	What?
	You're proving that women have done the job better and are not getting killed.
	What?
	I mean, isn't that what you just proved?
	That's your dumb as a box of fucking rocks.
	Is that not what you just proved, though?
	That if women and men are doing the same combat roles and men are dying at a higher rate than the women doing the roles, clearly these roles should only be assigned to women then.
	It's because they assign them the way that they assign them in combat, right?
	The women are still given a lesser job, even in the combat.
	That's what I just said before that, though.
	I said that women are not assigned the same roles.
	You said, let's talk about men and women in the same roles.
	But that's not evident.
	I don't know why.
	I don't know why you don't understand this.
	You can be infantry and a woman.
	You can be assigned the role of infantry and a woman.
	You can even be said to the nation as infantry as a woman, right?
	And with the male infantry.
	That is the same job allocation.
	However, still those assignments are going to be less rigorous on behalf of women because of capability.
	Yes, the percentage of women.
	Because of assumed capability.
	No, no.
	So, hi, I'm Elizabeth.
	I'm prior service military.
	I served in the Army in my husband's active duty army.
	Thank you.
	He's in the infantry.
	Thank you.
	Okay, go ahead.
	I would say that women are not dying in the same amount as men, but I also would say even if they are in an 11 Bravo slot for infantry, they're not doing the same tasks as men.
	And whether it be from assignment, they're saying that you think it's because they're not capable of doing those things.
	I believe that they're not capable of doing some of the roles that men do in the military.
	As a woman who's not.
	They literally are incapable physically of doing those jobs as an 11 Bravo or as a 13 Bravo or as a 19 Delta or as whatever combat role you want to assign it to.
	It doesn't matter.
	It's not because women are doing them better.
	It's because they're incapable of doing most of these jobs even when they're in the position of doing them.
	That makes my argument not yours.
	Physically.
	Physically, they can't do it.
	Yes, my little comment to that would be that I have done enough of the research about my own country and what's happening.
	And there is no such thing as physical equality when it comes to men and women.
	We're different physically.
	And even though...
	That's why they're drafting old men in the Ukraine.
	They're not drafting young women.
	Yeah, this is an incredibly heartbreaking topic.
	But of course, there are thousands, hundreds of thousands of women in Ukraine that are committing to protecting our country right now.
	But it would be insane of me to say that they are physically capable of everything that the men do.
	But of course, we can be eternally grateful for everything that both of the genders are doing for us.
	It's just they can't be physically as capable as the men.
	But I think to revisit the heart of the conversation, Andrew, was that is there any example of women laying their life on the line for men?
	I think this has already been determined as being true.
	Yes.
	But your whole point was that it wasn't true.
	What does the word collective mean?
	What does it mean?
	Okay.
	What does the word collective mean?
	Can you tell me what the word collective means?
	I just want to make sure that you got the argument down.
	I got it down.
	What does the word collective mean?
	The word collective is the majority, the group, all of the women, all of the men.
	Gotcha.
	So when I say, literally say to you, yes, there are examples of women laying their lives down for men.
	That's not in dispute here, right?
	It's never been in dispute.
	It's never even been a part of my argument.
	It was yielded immediately, right away.
	The second you said it, I conceded to it.
	Has nothing to do with my argument.
	My argument's about the collective.
	Collectively, men lay their lives down for women.
	Collectively, women do not lay their lives down for men.
	If you can give me an example where collectively women do that, I can't wait to hear it.
	Okay.
	I do think, though, that there is a place for women in the military, and there is roles where women will go on deployment.
	The roles to signal.
	No, I mean, there's other positions that women have in the military.
	Like me, I was 88 Mike, which is a truck driver.
	You were a truck driver.
	Right, right.
	So it's not just admin jobs.
	We'd talk with people.
	We'd say, go get us some Mike 88, right?
	That's what you'd say to new people.
	Yeah, but it's not just admin payroll clerk jobs.
	And there's plenty of men carrying those payroll clerk jobs as well.
	Yeah, but they're not deploying 88 mics who are females into combat zone.
	Yes, they do.
	That's how Jessica Lynch got abducted.
	They have massive money.
	That's how Jessica Lynch got abducted in OIF-1 is she was an 88 Mike overseas in the Gulf because of the war.
	That's the time that they didn't send out a huge MP escort with the Mike 88s.
	That's why.
	So the thing is, she wasn't doing the right thing.
	My point of why they shouldn't be in military combat.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	She got captured and then they graped her.
	Right.
	And that was a demoralizing effect on the American military, massive demoralizing effect.
	She should never have been there.
	And by the way, I'm going to say this again, and let's see if you can dispute this.
	If we collectively allowed women into combat zones, the enemy would capture them, they would sexually assault them, and they would send them back to their home countries pregnant.
	And the reason that they would do that is because it would be the most demoralizing thing they could do.
	I don't think women should be in combat zones, but that's not saying that you're not.
	I'm not sure what I just said.
	Can you answer to what I'm saying?
	I mean, I guess, yeah, that's how.
	Wouldn't you, if you were in charge of a foreign military and they were deploying women into the combat zones and you wanted to demoralize their military, wouldn't you instruct your soldiers to capture those women, SA them, and send them home pregnant?
	I don't think Odin struck my soldiers.
	Yeah, but I don't know that I would instruct them to do that.
	If you wanted to demoralize the enemy, wouldn't you do that?
	I mean, I'm not arguing that they would do that.
	I mean, they literally throw canes in front of trucks.
	They're dogs on them.
	So I'm not arguing that they would do that.
	I would not initiate that.
	If you were in charge of a military and you were fighting a war for protection for your nation, right?
	Just like the Japanese instructed their soldiers to kill medics first.
	And the reason they instructed them to kill medics first is because they wanted the wounded on the battlefield screaming to demoralize the enemy.
	There's no reason for us to assume that the enemies of the United States, if we deployed women in combat roles to front lines, would not instruct their soldiers to capture them, essay them as publicly as possible, and send the video and pregnant women back to their country of origin in order to demoralize their enemies.
	But that's a crime of war.
	They don't care about crimes of war.
	That's fictitious, made-up bullshit.
	Okay, I know.
	Do you know who follows war crimes?
	The West follows what war crimes are.
	The enemies of the West don't give a shit.
	There's no crimes in war because it's a war.
	They don't care.
	They don't care.
	The Israelis just blew up hundreds of people in public with their pagers.
	They don't give a shit about war crimes.
	Nobody cares about war crimes.
	Nobody cares.
	Because it's a war.
	That's a completely feminine thought process that men give a shit about war crimes.
	Why does it exist then?
	Because collectively, countries want to make themselves look really good on paper.
	They want to look like they're part of Geneva conventions.
	They want to outlaw flamethrowers.
	They change their uniforms all the time.
	They do all sorts of things.
	And then in the midst of war, what they'll do is they'll shoot white phosphorus over a spider hole, set people on fire, wait for them to run out so that they can shoot them, which is against the Geneva Convention, and they don't give a fuck.
	Am I wrong?
	You were in the military, you know, yeah?
	Yeah.
	And they don't get punished for it ever?
	No, they don't care.
	They don't care.
	Listen, if you're in a war, your job is to win the war.
	Your job is to kill the enemy with extreme aggression.
	It's to poison them.
	It's to stab them while they're sleeping.
	It's to murder them in any possible way you can think of to do it so that you win.
	That's warfare.
	I think you see another kind of news than I do then.
	You think that because in the civilized world that we conduct warfare a certain way, the British learned this lesson the hard way.
	Gentleman warfare went right out the window the second guerrilla tactics were introduced.
	So the thing is, is that, no, all it takes is one person saying, these rules are stupid.
	We're going to throw them out and we're going to kill the enemy however we see fit.
	Who's to stop them?
	They're in a war.
	What are you going to do?
	Come kill them?
	They're already in a war.
	Yeah, there are consequences.
	They're already in a war.
	They don't care.
	Sometimes there are consequences.
	I don't know.
	I feel like, I don't need, it's okay.
	I don't know.
	You feel like I want to engage.
	I know you want to engage, but like, I don't, uh, I don't know.
	I feel like, though, there is, like, some kind of consideration for maybe not war crimes, but like, for instance, like nuclear weapons and stuff.
	There's a reason why that doesn't occur, even though it could, you know?
	So, yeah, it's because the nuclear-armed nations would blast each other in smithereens.
	I'm aware.
	I understand, but I'm just saying, I feel like your point was that, like, people don't give a fuck because they just want to win the war.
	I feel like people do to a certain extent.
	We would use nukes.
	If we needed to win a war bad enough, we would use them.
	In fact, it's part of our warfare doctrine.
	It's part of our warfare doctrine.
	In fact, soldiers are trained in order to and how to sustain their lives in the event of a nuclear detonation for a reason.
	It's because inside of all game theory war plans in the United States, there's always the assumption somebody could use a nuclear bomb.
	Lucas donated $100.
	A man's duty to sacrifice his life is so vigorously enforced by society that when the Titanic sank, one man survived and spent the rest of his life being called a coward by other men.
	Fact check me.
	I mean, didn't more than one survive from Titanic.
	But thank you, Lucas.
	Appreciate it, man.
	We have four more coming through.
	You guys want TTS is 100?
	Get them in.
	Thank you, Lucas.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Lucas donated $100.
	What Andrew is talking about is a settled anthropological concept known as male expendability.
	STF you and learn something is because women diales in combat because they're incapable of doing combat roles, is then put them in combat roles because they're better at it.
	That's Woman Logic 101.
	Thank you.
	Christine donated $100.
	Thank you.
	Ladies, don't let Andrew win.
	Best thing to do is reframe the question and avoid answering him directly until he gets tired.
	I like to bring up anecdotal examples that are long, so he tires.
	I hate men.
	I love Christine.
	Love you, Christine.
	Appreciate it.
	Appreciate it, Christine.
	That was Lucas donated $100.
	Holy shit, Red.
	If you were a first-year associate of my law firm, you'd fired on the spot.
	Using the exception to argue against the rule under GW Grat.
	That's why I'm a model now, babe.
	All right, Lucas.
	Thank you, man.
	Thank you, Christine.
	Thank you guys so much for all your patronage there.
	I'm going to try to get through all the notes here.
	So, Andrew will be coming back.
	He just stepped away for a moment.
	Let's see here.
	Okay, going to you.
	You said create like crazy dating stories.
	Wait, hold on.
	There was a bad, the one guy who went to the bathroom and never came back.
	Oh, stiff tooth the bill.
	You already talked about that, though.
	So rude.
	It's rude.
	The one guy who didn't know the difference between what?
	I told him I was a musician, and then he did a call back later, and he said, Oh, you're a magician, right?
	And I was like, No, musician.
	And he's like, Oh, that's the same thing.
	And I was like, Did you also remember I'm a speech therapist?
	It's not the same thing.
	And then you totally different work.
	Had some bad dating experience with liberal men.
	That was the ugly, and that was just general liberals.
	Ew.
	There's nowhere to go With having come, like, there's nowhere to go in a relationship.
	You said there's this one guy who you went for a walk, he asked you out again, and then you gave him a chance, dinner, what happened?
	Yeah, he asked me over to his place for dinner, and I agreed.
	And when I got there, he was showing me around his backyard and showing me all some different areas that he'd done some landscaping on.
	And I was like, oh, this is your house.
	And he's like, no, this is my mom's house.
	And I was like, your mom's not going to come home tonight, is she?
	He's like, maybe.
	Is that a problem?
	And I was just like, I don't, I wasn't trying to meet your mom tonight.
	And then later I went to leave and he went to give me a kiss and I wasn't having that.
	And he's like, is this because I live with my mom?
	Yes.
	Wait, going around the table really quick.
	Would you date a guy who lives with his parents?
	No.
	Into the mic, please.
	No.
	It depends.
	But if you're going to invite me over to your mom's house, there should be some disclosure.
	No.
	Absolutely fucking not.
	All right.
	Into the mic, please.
	I mean, I don't know, because if they're taking care of their mom and their mom's not well or something, like, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	Let's see.
	And then that one guy who was trying to get to know me, so I'm like, okay, give him a chance.
	Do you have any kids?
	Yeah, few.
	How many kids did he have?
	Six.
	How many baby moms?
	Four.
	Nice.
	Good luck.
	I'm not your person.
	It's crazy.
	You also said that who are all these men paying for all the dates?
	I've gone Dutch for 99% of dates.
	One guy paid once, and that was cool.
	He was really chef for us.
	Yeah, that was last December.
	It was unexpected.
	He just kind of pulled out the card quicker than I did, and it was just taken care of before I knew it.
	And that never happens.
	I paid for the drinks later.
	Okay.
	Is Andrew back, by the way?
	Are these guys in Wisconsin?
	No, I'm in Alaska.
	Yeah, I'm here.
	Okay.
	You said that you hear men say on this podcast that men are attracted to a woman's aesthetic appeal and then also say women are lying when they wear makeup.
	I can understand that at times women completely alter their appearance with makeup, but I don't believe that's the norm and makeup is used to enhance appearance.
	You can be well-groomed without makeup and makeup can be a simple part of a general grooming routine.
	Yeah, I feel like I've heard men on this podcast say that wearing makeup makes you a liar.
	And I just feel like that is a really absolutist type of position to take.
	And if you enjoy looking at women who look pretty, why wouldn't you want them to pretty themselves up?
	Well, I suppose not when it comes to a deception.
	Right.
	There's a threshold.
	I could agree that there's a threshold.
	Yeah, but all makeup is on the scale of deception.
	I don't see it that way.
	Yeah.
	I see it as an enhancement.
	Is shaving deceptive?
	And would you want a woman who shaves?
	What do you mean, like shaving?
	Shaves her legs, shaves her armpits.
	Do you want your woman to shave?
	Initially, you said grooming.
	Makeup is grooming.
	Do you want your woman to shave?
	To do with grooming.
	Sure.
	Isn't that deceptive?
	She has hair on her legs.
	No.
	That's her authentic self.
	How would it be deceptive, though?
	By shaving it off.
	That's not the natural presentation.
	Wouldn't that be deceptive?
	To pretend like you don't have hair?
	I don't think that would be deceptive, no.
	I feel like it's in the same category as a gentle application of makeup.
	No, I think it's completely different.
	One hair has to do more so with grooming than it has to do with changing your appearance.
	Because, for example, one of the reasons men might prefer a woman with shaved legs doesn't even necessarily have to do with something visual, but with something tactile.
	Wait, what?
	Why are you laughing?
	That's literally actually true.
	Yeah, there's hygienic, like hygienic.
	There's also an appearance.
	Yeah, appearance-wise, too, I suppose.
	But there's also like a more, there's actually like a greater utility to shaving.
	Like, if a woman has spiky legs, it's physically uncomfortable to fuck her.
	You're talking about it.
	If the pussy is fucking spiky, it's uncomfortable, bruv.
	So there's actually a greater utility there.
	So it's higher on the scale of the grooming routine.
	Make sure you do that part first.
	Makeup is an afterthought.
	But I think that makeup can be part of a grooming routine.
	It has nothing to do with grooming, though.
	And do you see it as a whole separate category?
	Makeup?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it would be different.
	When I think of grooming, I think taking care more so of your hygiene.
	Makeup does not improve your hygiene.
	In fact, it probably makes it worse.
	What do you?
	How could it not?
	You're literally clogging your pores with makeup.
	It makes you more prone to acne.
	That's bad for your hygiene.
	I might exist for a reason.
	I might be.
	Yeah, it exists to create a facade of what you desire to look like, but actually don't.
	That's what it exists for.
	So you can feel more confident and you can feel less insecure about how you naturally look.
	So if you're a girl, you want to wear makeup?
	You got to speak into the fucking mic.
	I've told you like that.
	So if you were a girl, you wouldn't wear makeup.
	Is that what you're saying?
	I don't know.
	I'm not a woman.
	Okay, yeah.
	So you can't even speak about it.
	You're allowed to have opinions.
	Wait, what do you ever know about your TV?
	Wait, have you ever had an abortion?
	No.
	Oh, you can't speak about abortion then because you've never had one.
	Okay, meow.
	Oh, hold on.
	Actually, wait, should you be allowed to vote?
	Because you can't go to war.
	Do you prefer?
	Oh, my God.
	You can't be forced to war.
	Should you be allowed to vote?
	Why is this possible?
	Why is he smiling?
	Yes.
	He loves women should be allowed to vote.
	I just, yeah.
	Women should be allowed to vote.
	I didn't do anything.
	I was just listening.
	And do you prefer Pamela Anderson with makeup or without makeup?
	I would not be attracted to her.
	One, because doesn't she have hepatitis from whatever the fuck that guy's name is?
	She has plastic surgery.
	She has plastic surgery, which is my bigger gripe than the fact that she works.
	I don't.
	I'm a natural body supremacist.
	Perhaps I can.
	No, I don't entirely agree with Brian's makeup take, just to be fair, okay?
	But I will, but I am going to kind of take his part on this.
	Women are often called the fairer sex.
	In fact, I'll ask this question: do you think, if you think that there are more beautiful women than there are handsome men, go ahead and raise your hand?
	Yeah.
	More beautiful women than handsome men.
	You think it's easier to be beautiful as a woman than it is to be handsome.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So my argument is just very simple: that absent all makeup and all beauty regiment standards that come along with that, do you still hold the position that there would be more beautiful women than handsome men?
	Raise your hand.
	You still do.
	You still think that women even absent their makeup?
	Because here's the thing: what do we have to draw the parallel towards?
	When I look around, I see men not wearing makeup, and I see them not doing these incredible grooming kind of things that women do.
	And so they go, well, well, this guy's, you know, as far as women go, they're much prettier than men and this type of thing.
	But I think that if women walk around their natural state, absent all of the makeup and beauty and this and that, you would find that actually they're pretty much on par because men, they have the disadvantage.
	It's not even socially acceptable to wear makeup.
	And yet, there's still very, very many of them considered to be quite handsome.
	So I often wonder, well, if all the women are walking around without makeup, would we still make the association that they were the fairer sex?
	We still have boops.
	Yeah, I mean, men can have boobs too, but I wouldn't say that that makes them the fairer, not fairer sex.
	You know, I think maybe it just kind of goes along with the feminine that women like to decorate.
	Like this apartment would look different if a woman decorated it.
	There'd be more stuff on the walls.
	And I think it's similar to like how we like to wear jewelry and we like to decorate and we like to enhance the appearance.
	Yeah.
	It's part of the feminine.
	And I'm not disputing that, right?
	What I am disputing is that when Brian says it's a deception, aren't men almost instantly disadvantaged?
	Because after all, if a guy's walking around with guy liner on and makeup and shit like that, that's not considered masculine, right?
	So they're preferred in their natural state.
	Yeah, they're preferred in their natural state.
	So whereas women can go through these beauty regiments and they defend them.
	However, the amount of women, and this I know for sure, having been on that podcast in person many times and off of it, almost no woman in person looks like they do on camera.
	They almost always look way worse in person.
	Almost always.
	You know, I don't, I just think.
	Brian, am I wrong about that, by the way?
	Am I crazy or do almost all the women look way worse in person than they do on camera?
	Definitely.
	The cameras in the studio lighting do a lot of favor.
	A lot of favors.
	A lot of favors.
	Yeah.
	I think everyone looks a lot better in person than they do.
	How would you know?
	What would you be comparing that to?
	I have the best lighting on YouTube.
	Yeah.
	Look, it's a deception.
	It's a deception.
	What's up?
	What do you got?
	I want to share one extremely sincere moment about makeup.
	When I was preparing for the show specifically, I was thinking about either putting makeup on or not.
	And I really wanted to not put any as usual because I don't use any makeup in real life because I want my skin to breathe, not because of any other reason.
	And the only reason why I still put the makeup on is because I knew that almost, I'm not talking about you, girl, you have no makeup on.
	No, no, no.
	You have no makeup on, but I knew that the absolute majority, I knew that the absolute majority of the women that are going to come to the podcast are going to wear the makeup on.
	And I was thinking, okay, girl, all right, put the mascara on.
	All right.
	Kind of hide those little pilm piles that you had because the majority of the people are going to do it.
	And you probably unintentionally are going to show yourself and not in the best way because of the people that are definitely going to put the makeup on.
	It's just a very honest talk that I wanted to vocalize right now.
	But I definitely have those.
	You didn't want the women who were around you to look more beautiful than you?
	I knew that probably I would look naturally.
	I would look different from the women that totally put the full-on makeup on.
	So you want to be able to do that.
	You just want it to fit in.
	Yeah, I want it to fit in for sure.
	Andrew, I can agree with what you're saying right now.
	For sure.
	And there are definitely some days in my life when I'm thinking, I wish all the women could just ditch all the makeup, just go outside.
	If that is the case, Brian has a whole bunch of makeup wipes there.
	My challenge to you would be to go to the bathroom and take all the makeup off and come back.
	Man, I would love to do it.
	Can I just do it?
	Because this would be amazing, honestly.
	You should do it.
	Who will do it?
	Do you even have the makeup now?
	I do.
	Oh, let's fucking get rid of it.
	I don't know.
	There are so many days in my life when I'm thinking, oh, I wish all the women just put all their makeup off, just absorb the sun rays, and just chill.
	They don't need to, you know, prove anything to anyone.
	They're gorgeous.
	They're wonderful.
	The foundation and all that is off, then people can see for themselves whether or not there was a deception or not, right?
	Fuck it.
	Fuck it.
	I'm talking about the natural beauty that all of the women around me have it right now.
	Well, this is actually why I make it a habit when women aren't wearing, like if I'm dating somebody and she's not wearing makeup to compliment her when she's not wearing makeup.
	Yeah, fuck.
	Because one day you're going to see her in the morning with no makeup on.
	And if you're planning to love that woman.
	You're not treating a dog, bro.
	Huh?
	You use a positive reinforcement, you treat them like it's a treat, like it's a dog.
	No, it's not true.
	You drop the newspaper and you're like bad when they put the makeup on and when they don't, you're like, oh, you're a good girl.
	Yeah, no, it's not a trap.
	Wait, My intention is definitely not to hate on the makeup.
	I'm wearing my makeup right now, but I'm proud of it.
	I love my makeup.
	No, no, no, no.
	This is not the point.
	It's just, I, again, generally, I just always think about that moment when a man that I would possibly be interested in, he would see me without any makeup in the morning, and that would be real me.
	It would not be the same me in the evening at that expensive restaurant that we're spending time at.
	You know, it's different.
	You feel me?
	So, where are the wipes?
	Yeah, where are the wipes?
	I just don't see makeup as a deception.
	I see it as part of the feminine, and I see it as like decoration.
	And I'm not trying to get away with anything.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I don't care if somebody sees me without makeup.
	Well, let me ask you a question.
	Let's assume that you were with kind of your dream guy, right?
	You slept with him for the first time, and it was absolutely amazing.
	Okay, and then you found out the next day he was on Viagra and he couldn't get it up.
	Was that a deception?
	Viagra is so different than makeup, first of all.
	I don't think so, because it's just like helping you.
	Yeah, no, I'm not.
	Hang on.
	Let me ask her.
	Me.
	No, no.
	You.
	Yeah, you.
	Tony?
	Yes.
	Answer.
	It's hard to answer.
	If I knew about it, then no.
	But if I did not, then yes.
	But if I tell you I'm wearing makeup, then it's not deceptive, right?
	Yeah, right, right.
	But the point here is that if then you could make the choice, right, based on this information, knowing that this guy could not perform, would you have ever wasted your time sleeping with him in the first place?
	As long as the Viagra is still there.
	Yeah, I know.
	But the idea here is just if you think it's a deception, then that could inform your decision alternatively to whether or not you would ever have done this action with a person to begin with.
	I would say makeup has the same effect for many women that men would pursue a woman who they think is beautiful when absent the makeup.
	Perhaps they're not.
	This is the definition of catfishing.
	So how you could say this is a deception or not a deception, I have no idea.
	I think that you're just, so to be charitable to your view, I think it has to do with intent, right?
	So I don't think you're intending to be deceiving by putting makeup on.
	That's where I would deviate from Brian.
	However, that does not mean that it is not used very deceptively by most women who tend to not look anything like what they look like in makeup.
	They just don't.
	They don't look like I think you're putting a lot of power in the capability of makeup.
	Like, oh, are we?
	I mean, I don't know.
	Take yours, then take yours off.
	What if she doesn't want to?
	We have the makeup wipes right there.
	Take them off.
	If I'm putting a lot of power in there.
	What if she doesn't want to?
	No, no, no.
	Hang on, Angie.
	Let me call your bluff.
	Take yours off.
	I have last gift.
	Do it right now.
	First of all, I've spent a lot of time and money on this makeup.
	Right there.
	And you know what, Andrew?
	You're not worth it.
	So I'm not taking it off for you.
	And also, those ones gave me hots.
	So I'm never going to have to do it.
	I'm going to make way too much stock in that makeup signal.
	But you know what?
	Specifically for Andrew, and if it's okay with Brian, with your position on third-party voting, do you think it's wrong not to vote at all if you believe neither part of the city?
	I need a quick candidate should be president.
	I need a quick answer on this.
	Yeah, I think you should still vote.
	I think you should still vote for the lesser of two evils because it's the only way you can apply political power.
	Thank you, practicing gentlemen.
	Appreciate it.
	We have also Lucas here coming in.
	All right.
	Lucas donated $100.
	Ha, model.
	Nice attempt at self-aggrandizement.
	Wife, shit-ton hotter, shit ton smarter, and BTW shit ton more successful at modeling to boot.
	Now take her mediocrity back home and learn some humility.
	Is that to you?
	I guess we could assume so, right?
	I guess then go back to your wife and stop spending $100 to talk to me, babe.
	All right.
	By the way, I just wanted to point out something that's very interesting as I'm looking, examining the panel here as well.
	I noticed that some of you are around my age, but none of you have any gray hairs.
	That's really interesting.
	I would say that that would be statistically impossible.
	That at least some of you should have at least a few gray hairs.
	Where are they?
	Where are the gray hairs?
	I do have gray hairs.
	I have never dyed my hair, and my mom, 19 years older than me, still doesn't have any gray hairs.
	I'm going to have great hair for a long time.
	Yeah, so I assume that at least some of you would not have gray hair, sure.
	But I don't think all of you would not be able to have some.
	So where are they?
	After this conversation with you, I might have some.
	All right, I mean, I'll just die.
	Pull up the tweet, please.
	Pull up the tweet.
	Why don't you just dye them away?
	All right.
	Make it bigger.
	Make it bigger.
	Or just click on it.
	This is not real.
	This is not real.
	That's not real.
	Put us on away.
	That's real.
	No, it's not.
	Look at the shape of her face.
	That's not real.
	That's her.
	Or him.
	They use tape.
	They use tape to tape back certain aspects of their skin.
	That's deceptive.
	If that's right.
	Do the the video one that's like this Asian woman who's now I can rub find that one You guys have been calling us stupid all night, but you guys believe that that is the capability of makeup We're going to show you.
	Yes.
	Show us.
	Show us.
	There's plenty of makeup wearers.
	There's plenty of shit.
	And you can take your 300th elf when we show you.
	Yeah.
	If it's not going to take it off.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Put on window tab, please.
	No window tab.
	Just window.
	You can switch it to window tab.
	The window tab.
	You can switch it to window tab.
	Oh.
	This is not makeup.
	This is skincare.
	Yeah, hold on.
	It's a whole fucking transformation.
	She's doing.
	All right.
	Pull that out of her ear.
	She's also a magician.
	She's like a musician.
	Yeah, what just happened?
	Something happened to her chin.
	Some AI stuff just happened right now.
	Her face is getting smaller and smaller.
	Yeah, that whole jawline.
	Different person.
	But there's a filter or something on now.
	Okay, then go back, scroll back to the very beginning.
	Scroll back to the very beginning.
	Totally, totally different.
	Okay, they added like contacts and like technology.
	Yes, that's a component of the cosmetics.
	Cosmetics, I would say, is like within the realm of something you could buy at Sephora.
	Yeah.
	You're not buying a face reconstruction.
	Literally.
	Okay, well, I object to all of it.
	I'll just grant you 40% of it.
	40% of what you just saw was raw AI filters.
	That still leaves 60% that wasn't.
	That's still such a facial transformation.
	It's incredible.
	And so, yes, of course, you can put stock in makeup.
	I've seen what people can do.
	And I don't even know why you would deny it.
	You've seen horror movies with special effects and makeup artists who can make people look like aliens from other planets.
	I don't know why you think that women can't make facial transformations.
	That makes no sense.
	Yeah, no, that's true.
	You can also use makeup to make yourself much uglier than you are in real life, like Charlie's Theron in that one serial killer movie.
	I mean, it's used to enhance or not enhance beauty standards, but you can transform people to the point where they look like monsters from another world.
	But somehow we think that it's impossible for people to make these facial transformations where they look extraordinarily beautiful when they're really not.
	Yeah, there's a threshold that it becomes deceptive.
	Next, I sent you the thing.
	But it seems like you're implying that we're doing this right now.
	But if you're a nuts, why don't you take it?
	Well, I don't know.
	You're not the one taking your makeup off.
	Yeah.
	It's like, why should she have to?
	I feel like.
	She shouldn't have to.
	Nobody said she had to.
	You did.
	It's just called.
	In poker, we call this calling your bluff.
	When you say, hey, my hand is way better than you think it is.
	And I say, well, that's fine.
	Let's play our cards.
	The other person tends to fold, right?
	Because you're calling their bluff.
	The thing is, if you think the makeup isn't doing a bunch of heavy lifting for your face, then prove it.
	Well, maybe if you're saying that you can get it up without Viagra, then it's anybody asking you to prove that on camera.
	Yeah.
	Well, here's the thing, right?
	In this particular case, I'm not making the claim that Viagra does not enhance the face or the penis to the point where you can get an erection.
	You are making the claim that makeup cannot enhance the face to the point where you can have a completely different standardization of what the beauty is.
	That's the distinction.
	All of the men that I've dated and that have seen me without makeup, I have never had anybody be like, you deceived me last night at dinner.
	Like, no one has said that.
	Well, I know, but you can just prove us all wrong right now.
	With that analogy, the distinction of deception is whether or not taking Viagra was a secret.
	Because nobody's makeup is a secret.
	It's right on your face.
	Just the one that's fun.
	Yeah, no, no, no.
	The point is not whether or not you can put makeup on your face, and we don't know you have makeup on your face.
	The point is the deceptive nature of it.
	I don't give a shit if women enhance their face with makeup.
	I don't care, right?
	That's Brian's argument.
	He doesn't like it.
	I get it.
	I don't see it as any different than a person who has burn scars on their face, who has surgery in order to make those burn scars go away.
	I don't care.
	It doesn't bother me.
	But there is clearly, like you stated, a threshold.
	And when I hear Coke, like, no, makeup really just doesn't do much.
	I'm just at natural beauty.
	And you go, yeah, well, here's the wipes.
	Let's prove it.
	You see very quickly that there's a lot of Coke going on.
	Makeup is doing a lot more heavy lifting than women pretend that it's doing.
	Now, here, I'll prove it right now.
	The three most makeup women that I see right now on the panel would be the one who identified as a 10 at the end of the table, the one in red, and then the OnlyFans girl.
	Will any of you right now take your makeup off on camera?
	Any of you.
	No, I'm not saying that it's not deceptive.
	We're just saying we look good with and without makeup.
	But when there's cameras and lighting, we know the lashes become.
	Yeah, but which way do you look better?
	Which way do you look better?
	I think I would look better without makeup, but I will wear makeup on myself.
	Okay, well then take yours off.
	I don't have to take it off because I'm on camera and the lighting is like my face.
	Why would you ever put makeup on if you think you look better without it?
	Are you dressing yourself down?
	No, I'm just camera.
	I'm saying when there's like lights and cameras on my face, like the eyelashes pop.
	So I low on I'll make them pop.
	Well, isn't it much better?
	Is the same as saying like if there's a man and you shave your beard and you look different without a beard, you prefer to have a beard on.
	Isn't that the same for like women?
	They prefer to have makeup on.
	Girls have makeup on all the time.
	I think that a man is trying in that point to enhance his standard of beauty or possibly hide a scar or any number of different reasons, right?
	I'm not making the case that women wearing makeup is some evil.
	I don't think it is, right?
	I don't have the same position that Brian has on this and never have.
	But I still see it as pure coke when a woman who is dressed in makeup to the gills, I don't know how long it took you to put your face on 10, 10 minutes, yeah, right.
	No, fucking right.
	It's going to take like an hour to deceive y'all this day.
	Yes, hours.
	Come on.
	And in any case, when you pretend, well, this really just doesn't do much for me.
	It's just enhancing the incredible beauty that's already there.
	It really doesn't change anybody's perception of me at all.
	When put to the test, when the makeup wipes are in front of you, we find out, eh, maybe that's not the case.
	Like, for instance, right, I would shave my beard on camera.
	I don't give a shit.
	Do it right now, let's do it right now.
	Do it right now, right now.
	It doesn't really change how I look very much.
	You should do it then.
	As soon as you remove your makeup, you'll do it if I don't make a wait.
	I'll take that makeup off.
	Take off your makeup.
	I have the makeup wipes on.
	Oh, my God.
	I would love this.
	Take it off.
	I'm a little bit of makeup wipes, actually.
	There's regular soap in the bathroom.
	Soap.
	Soap.
	What?
	No, no, no.
	You can't go to the bathroom.
	You have to take the makeup up off where we can see so we know that you're not only taking off some parts of the makeup to still continue to enhance the beauty, right?
	I think you're just jealous.
	You can't put on makeup.
	Why couldn't I put on makeup?
	Yeah, you could.
	I mean, you could.
	Okay, well, then I don't even understand the argument.
	It made no sense.
	You know what?
	this conversation is just irrelevant because we're all cute without makeup and you're just yeah we're all beautiful You're trying to be a hater right now, but it's fine.
	You know what I think is really sexy?
	Guys who don't smoke cigarettes.
	You know what I think is really sexy?
	Women who do.
	Where are we going now?
	I really appreciate that you and Brian have some distinct differences in your opinions and that it's not just macho group think on everything or anything.
	No, we disagree about several things, but we agree, I would say, on 90% of things.
	But we definitely have different perceptions on many things.
	We have one more video related to this.
	But men don't have to be collectivists in order for other men to like us.
	That's the advantage we have that women don't seem to have.
	I disagree.
	Oh, that poor eyebrow.
	That eyeball is going to fall down.
	That's makeup.
	That's not real.
	That's makeup.
	Yeah.
	You can let it play through one more time.
	It's also contacts.
	Is it?
	Yeah, her eyes completely changed.
	Yeah.
	I don't think she's wearing contacts.
	She is.
	I'm pretty sure it's just the What happened to her skin?
	In any case That tape you're talking about I need to find tape, you guys.
	She's wearing a lot of makeup.
	Probably most women do not wear that much makeup, but I don't think you can deny that that's quite the transformation.
	Yeah.
	Both of those videos that you presented past that.
	I think there's a couple components here is that what makeup will do, though, is that women will start to believe that that's what they look like.
	And so what you have happening in the dating marketplace is a lot of women are chasing after these top-tier guys.
	And through the use of makeup, they've artificially inflated their value in the dating marketplace because men care about beauty, men care about looks.
	If you've artificially, and I don't think you can deny that it's artificially inflating your physical appearance through the use of makeup or other cosmetic procedures, certainly can't be described as natural.
	You've raised your so-called rating.
	I mean, it's funny, but you're caked up in makeup.
	So I know you want to cope with that.
	I am caked up, and my hair is dyed, and my nails are done, and my lashes are done.
	And now what?
	When females avoid them.
	I guess what I'm trying to say is what I see happening.
	You got to let me finish, okay?
	What I see happening in the dating marketplace is that women are curving men that they think they would be settling for or they think are not in their league.
	But here's the big mistake that a lot of women make is that you are terrible assessors of male attractiveness and your own attractiveness.
	That's why we have two tens at the table.
	That's why we have nines and eights.
	Wait, we're going to have two tens.
	You said you're a ten.
	And then you said you're a.
	I'm not caked up.
	And because of this, because of this, you have a delusional or inaccurate, to be charitable, sense, false sense of your own attractiveness.
	Wait.
	Ergo, you got to let me finish.
	I let you guys talk.
	Ergo, you're going to be chasing after men who are out of your league.
	These men will give you sexual access because you want sexual access from them.
	They'll give you sexual access.
	They'll never give you commitment access.
	They'll never give you girlfriend access.
	They'll never give you wife access.
	You'll spend your 20s fucking men outside of your league.
	Then when you're 30 or in your late 20s, you're like, whoa, why haven't I been able to lock down a guy?
	But you're able to hook up with the NFL players, these rich guys in Dubai or wherever the fuck you go to.
	And you sleep with these men.
	Who have proposed to me.
	Where's the ring?
	I said no.
	Okay, cool.
	So in any case, you guys are chasing after men out of your league.
	Well, you don't have to do that.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	You're chasing after men who are out of your league.
	That's why you constantly find yourself in situation chips and fuck buddies and sneaky links, but the guy will never give you commitment.
	Wait.
	And you're chasing after men out of your league who won't give you that commitment.
	And then, and then the men who are actually in your league, you spend your 20s rejecting them.
	You spend your 20s rejecting the men who would give you commitment, who would be your boyfriend, who would give you marriage.
	And then in your 30s, maybe you end up with one of these suckers who didn't get much attention when he was younger.
	Invariably, you get married to him.
	You're still thinking of the really hot guys you fucked in your 20s.
	Within three years, you've now divorced him.
	And then the cycle continues.
	You probably have, maybe you got a kid from him.
	Maybe not.
	And yeah, makes for a terrible society to live in.
	You're so loud and wrong.
	It's so crazy.
	How is that wrong?
	That's because you don't know what guys I'm going after.
	You don't know what you're doing.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Female.
	Hold on, no, no, no, hold on.
	Hold on.
	Female hypergamy is the rule, not the exception.
	I don't know what that means.
	Hypergamy, the tendency to date outside of your level.
	It could be socioeconomically.
	It could be status.
	It could be looks.
	It could be personality.
	No, you're so wrong, Brian.
	Do you want the funny guy?
	Don't want a funny guy?
	Do you want a funny guy?
	I want a guy who makes me Google.
	Okay.
	Are you funny?
	I'm hilarious.
	That's cool.
	So I didn't laugh tonight, but okay.
	You actually did, if you play it back.
	Okay, cool.
	That's the only thing I just laughed.
	Funny lady.
	What do you call a woman who can't?
	How much do you make per year?
	Unbearable.
	How much do you make per year?
	Like.
	That was a growner.
	Well, that was a growner.
	Well, I wrote it myself.
	No, no, no, stop.
	Stop.
	At least like 80,000.
	Okay.
	Have you dated a guy who makes a million dollars a year?
	Yeah, I do.
	I have.
	Oh, wow.
	That's really hypergamous of you to be dating somebody so far outside your socioeconomic status.
	Congratulations.
	No, because, first of all, I'm rich in spirit.
	Do you think a guy who makes 80K can date a girl who's making a million?
	Answer the question, though.
	Do you think a guy who's making 80K is dating a girl who can make a million?
	Or is she going after other millionaires?
	Okay, I like how you go from women to saying, I feel like you speak, what was that thing?
	You said African-American privilege, and then now you're speaking like your gym neutron.
	Like, what the heck?
	And second of all, I look fantastic without makeup.
	I'm wearing it because you're bored to wear it from here, Brian.
	With all these, with all these Jimmy Neutron words.
	No, literally, like.
	Have you ever dated somebody who has status or is famous?
	Maybe.
	Rapper?
	Musician.
	Oh.
	It's not a fucking race thing.
	No.
	Have you ever dated a professional athlete?
	No, I don't like athletes.
	Have you dated a you can direct those questions over here or a magician?
	Have you ever dated a famous musician?
	Okay, yeah.
	Wow, that's weird.
	Like, you're dating a guy who has more status than you.
	No, I'm dating a guy who has talent and like who has more status than you.
	Okay.
	Hypergamy.
	Boom.
	Roasted.
	You've dated an NFL player.
	Correct.
	NBA player?
	You need to stop smiling.
	It makes me annoyed when he smiles.
	No.
	And I have more status and money than any guy I've ever dated.
	So.
	Wait, wait.
	Wait, what?
	What black did I just take for my smile?
	You don't like the smile either?
	You're just smiling at like the most like, it's like a sinister smile.
	It's not like a nice smile.
	Wait, okay, that's.
	You can't see it when it's paired with the palpitation.
	Keep going, Brian.
	This is the best.
	Okay.
	Have you dated an NBA player?
	No.
	NFL player.
	Yes.
	What other professional players?
	No, I've only dated one professional athlete.
	And it was an NFL player.
	Correct.
	But you also said you're more famous and I said I have more status and money than him.
	NFL player?
	Correct.
	He probably has a Wikipedia page.
	Do you?
	No.
	We could make her one right now.
	Let's focus on the money aspect.
	The money aspect, but you were making more money than the NFL player.
	I have more money than him.
	Yes.
	What kind of model are you?
	I have more money than he did.
	I paid for things.
	I paid the bills.
	What kind of model are you?
	Kind of feel like we're not getting the answer on the what kind of model.
	Oh, I'm a regular model.
	Like, what is that?
	Newts or?
	No, no, nothing nude.
	But I.
	Yeah, like bikini.
	Yeah.
	Okay, okay, okay.
	She's beginning bikini, guys.
	Runway and don't get too worked up.
	Wait, lowest salary in NFL.
	The minimum salary is $700,000 in 2022.
	Next question.
	Hold on.
	The minimum salary for a first-year player is current.
	Oh, as of 2024, but I'll know when you dated him, is $700,000.
	Wait.
	It's almost $800,000.
	Okay.
	You make more than that?
	Yes, I do have more money than the guy.
	Do you make more than that a year?
	Do I make more than $800,000 a year?
	I would say I'm in the ballpark of that.
	Doing what?
	Modeling.
	What is that?
	Modeling?
	I just bought myself a Porsche last week.
	Next question, Brian.
	You got that.
	Did you finance it?
	No, I bought it.
	Cap.
	So capped.
	Cap?
	Why do you assume she's pulling up?
	You love to pull up Instagram.
	Why are you such a pull it up, Brian?
	Your lady is working, bro.
	Pull it up, Brian.
	It's on my Instagram.
	Totally cap.
	There's no way.
	Okay, pull up my Instagram, Brian.
	It's Alex444.
	It's the first picture there.
	He's peanut butter and jealous.
	You literally are like, why are you still a woman hater?
	Even your friend is nicer.
	You're like a trust fund, baby.
	You can just say that's okay.
	Wait, I'm nice to you.
	Trust fund, trust fund.
	Trust fund.
	I still have more money.
	Sure.
	Correct.
	You're being intentionally kind of just like y'all.
	Just like y'all.
	But you're being a bit vague about it.
	So the money's not from the modeling.
	It's from your parents.
	No, it's not from my parents.
	I bought my Porsche last week with my own money.
	My parents did not sign off on it.
	Everything is in my own name and with my own cash paid in full.
	That your parents gave me.
	Okay, that's the same thing.
	Why do you see what's happening?
	I guess the question to ask is: are you making through some type of job or modeling almost $800,000?
	Yes, I am.
	Yes, I am.
	Stop the cap.
	Okay.
	Wait, why do you assume she's capping?
	Why do you assume that I'm capping?
	It's giving literally PVE jelly.
	No, literally, but why do you assume that I'm capping?
	So, I mean, I'm going to Google the average salary of a model.
	Good for you, Wynn.
	Okay, but like, those are people on Google.
	So that, and I even think this is high.
	They're saying the average salary for a model is $95,000 per year.
	I think that's even dubious.
	But in any case, that's the average salary.
	Top earners make around $200,000 a year.
	So you're in the one percentile.
	You're in the one percentile of models.
	I looked at your Instagram, you're following while not.
	Well, why don't we pull up the Instagram by the time?
	I don't need to pull it up, but you have a 20,000 followers, which isn't nothing.
	But also, wouldn't you have followers?
	Listen, I'm going to be honest: 20,000 followers for somebody who is a million-dollar plus a year.
	I didn't say million-dollar plus.
	I said I am $800,000.
	Yeah.
	Make six figures.
	$800 plus a year.
	Correct.
	Job, $20,000 per model is nothing on Instagram.
	It's dirt.
	It's nothing.
	Okay.
	Well, I mean, I don't.
	Literally nothing.
	I barely try.
	All I do is post on Instagram.
	I post like next to nothing ever.
	And I almost have that following.
	And I don't do anything on it.
	I literally don't do anything on it.
	What publications?
	Have you been in?
	I've been, I'm not a print model like that.
	I do e-comm.
	I've done runway shows.
	I've done music videos.
	I've done campaigns.
	Look, I want to spare you the embarrassment.
	Just walk back that you lied about your income?
	Your income.
	Absolutely not.
	No, you're right.
	I can show you.
	I mean, I don't know.
	When I applied for my car, I had to put my income earnings on the sheet.
	Do you want me to bring you?
	I mean, it could be a rental.
	Oh, my God.
	A rental?
	You're such a hater.
	Well, okay.
	A rental.
	It's okay.
	It's a rental.
	You're right.
	You got me.
	You got me.
	Anyways, look.
	What were we talking about?
	They don't like to see women who make money.
	Are they really?
	I don't care.
	I just doubt it.
	Well, how much do you make a year?
	I'm a broke, starving college student.
	You're in college?
	Yes.
	35 in college.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's rough.
	Deceptive.
	It's my 15th year.
	Oh, damn.
	I'll pray for you.
	I'm a starving college student.
	My degrees will keep me warm at night.
	That's a Kanye West Never.
	God damn it, Tiffany.
	Oh, it's not.
	Drop the ball.
	Say that again?
	It's like from one of his songs.
	Wait, say it again.
	My degrees will keep me warm at night.
	But it's not him.
	It's like one of his skits.
	Oh, yeah.
	One of the skits.
	Like college dropout.
	College dropout, yeah.
	Good talk.
	Anyways, what the fuck are we talking about?
	You being a hater.
	You makeup.
	This is rather elevating your position in the dating market.
	I know for a fact, if you were a girl, you would wear so much makeup.
	So much makeup, I bet you.
	As much as you would.
	But they like to talk about broke girls, but then when a girl tells them that they're not broke, they can't believe it.
	Exactly.
	And I bet if you were a man, you wouldn't have to make a bunch of people.
	I'd have the biggest cock in the city.
	You have a lot of money.
	I'm not disputing any of that.
	It sounds like you are.
	I'm not disputing what you make.
	I didn't dispute it once.
	All I said was that 20,000 Instagram followers for a model of the caliber I would expect to be close to a million a year at 20,000, considering I have 12.10.
	I'm booked every single day two to three times a day.
	Like, I don't know.
	I'll let you respond.
	Just let me finish.
	I let the man finish.
	I'm just saying that it seems rather low.
	Is there some other social media platform where you have many more followers than that?
	No, there's not.
	Yeah, that's true that you've run all sorts of campaigns all over the world and you're in all these cover magazines and you have 20,000 Instagram followers.
	I'm guessing the girl needs to be.
	First of all, a million dollars a year is not that much money, guys.
	Like, it's really not that much money.
	A million dollars.
	Watch.
	Are you kidding me?
	If it's not, then you know what?
	I agree with you.
	If a million dollars is not very much money, go ahead and send it to me.
	I'll send you the pay value.
	I'm talking about making that as your salary a year.
	Like, it's not as much money as it sounds like first of all.
	It's 0, 0, 0.1% of the United States that makes over 500K a year.
	What are you talking about?
	I mean, the high-income earners are talking about taxing right now.
	The high-income threshold starts at $400,000.
	Trust me, I'm well aware of that, Andrew.
	Trust me, I'm well aware of that.
	What is that?
	I want you guys to try to.
	That's very challenging.
	You can't do this.
	You can't do this.
	You have to bring one finger.
	They have to go in reverse.
	I'm impressed.
	That's really hard.
	I'm really happy for you that you're so successful.
	And I believe you.
	One finger forward, one finger backwards.
	Why?
	No, it's the same thing.
	It's a really good brain exercise.
	wanted to share that today is actually the 50th anniversary of when women were first allowed to hold a credit card in their name and we're now the we're now sick because he's jealous we now Oh, God, who?
	In the hell, cash.
	I'm really happy for you that you bought a car in cash, and women are now like the biggest holders of debt in the country.
	Way to go.
	Thank you.
	Whoa, I'm kind of based.
	Wait, okay, hold on.
	I got to let some of the chats come through.
	Hold on.
	We're really winning it.
	Lol Paladins donated $100.02.
	Stop the cap.
	$800K a year is way more than you having a total amount higher than that.
	My porch is $6,150.
	I own three.
	800k a year is way more than that.
	Oh, wait, I gotta do the sorry, little paladins.
	I forgot to put on your little special thingy.
	My bad, bro.
	Here, I'll put it on right now.
	Thank you, Lil Paladins.
	Sorry, bro.
	I forgot.
	I don't have a PR.
	Aquatic donated $100.
	The water boy on the Detroit Lions gets paid more yearly than you do.
	Who's he audible?
	About me, I guess.
	Yeah.
	Excuse me.
	Sorry, sorry, Yo, Aquatic, thank you, dude.
	Good to see you in the chat, brother.
	The water boy on the Detroit Lions.
	Yeah, that's crazy, son.
	That's crazy.
	That's wild.
	Can I ask you one last question about deception?
	Sure.
	If a woman avoids farting in front of you for like the first six months of a relationship, is she deceiving you by trying to make you think that she doesn't fart?
	If this beach makes $800k a year with 20K Instagram followers, I guess then put Spry in at 12 million a year.
	Stop the cap.
	Oh, shizzle my nizzle.
	Thank you, Lol Paladins, dude.
	Good to see you.
	To be maximum charitable, I'm sure that there's many millionaires who have very low social media followers.
	Yes, but it just seems like if you were a model, that that would be very key to the absolute donating $100.
	Wait, if she paid in cash, why did she have to prove income?
	That sounds like Elise or financing just saying.
	Okay.
	Interesting how that works, BTW.
	By the way, TTS has been lowered to 69, guys, if you want to get a TTS in.
	Thank you, Ogle.
	Good to see you back in the chat, man.
	Good to see you back in the chat.
	I don't know.
	Is there anything else on this makeup thing?
	I just, you know what I mean?
	Know what I mean?
	Nah.
	Okay, one sec, guys.
	I'm just getting the things adjusted.
	I have a few more notes here we have to finish up.
	So, Andrew Wilson.
	Oh, really quick.
	Do you guys think men are insecure if they care about body count?
	Starting with you?
	No, I think you have a right to care.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	No.
	I don't think it's insecure of them.
	No, not necessarily.
	No, it's not insecure.
	You have a right to know if that's something that's important to you.
	No.
	Oh, wait.
	This girl's gone.
	We'll wait until she's back then on this one.
	So, guys, TTS has been lowered.
	$69 TTS if you want to get one in.
	Guys, also like the video.
	Oh, we got to do Twitch really quick.
	We haven't done that in a while.
	Go ahead and pull up the Twitch.
	Guys, go to Twitch.
	Wait, did we do the last makeup video?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we did.
	Yo, guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
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	We're trying to hit 100,000 before the end of the year.
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	We'll see.
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	Oh, going to you.
	Do you think body count matters?
	Me?
	Why?
	I'm at the mic.
	Or do you, yeah, do you think, or do you think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count?
	No, but it's like they shouldn't be a hypocrite.
	Like, if you have a high body count, you can just another girl for having a high body count.
	I feel like I should.
	Oh, but I forgot who I'm talking about.
	I actually think, look, I'm not in favor of male promiscuity, but I actually don't see anything wrong with a man who, like, let's say he had a promiscuous past, he slept with 100 women.
	I don't think he's obliged to then go and have to date a woman who herself was promiscuous or who matches his past promiscuity.
	He can make an assessment and be like, yeah, dating, like, promiscuous women, they're suboptimal to date.
	I'd rather date them.
	I'm going to pick the most optimal woman I can, the same way that women pick the most optimum choice that they can make when it comes to who they decide to sleep with or partner with or whatever.
	So I don't think there's actually anything wrong with a guy being a hoe?
	No, I didn't say that.
	I object to male promiscuity and I object to female promiscuity.
	But if a guy was promiscuous, I don't think he's obliged to then have to only date promiscuous women.
	He can be like, no, I want to date a virgin.
	So you think that a promiscuous girl should date a girl?
	Should die alone?
	Yes.
	No, just kidding.
	Brian, no one's obliged to date anyone.
	I am kidding.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Nobody's obliged to date anybody.
	Shit, if I want.
	I mean, whether they can get them or not is another question, but so what was your question?
	Honestly, I'm gonna, you confused me with your gaslighting.
	I think a guy who is a hoe should not date a virgin?
	No, ew.
	Make an argument against it.
	Why not?
	Because it's like.
	Our virgin's desirable.
	Yeah.
	So why can't he desire a virgin?
	If he can get her, what's the issue?
	Because he's the furthest thing from it.
	I mean, I guess in yin and yang, but like.
	How tall are you?
	5'3.
	How tall of the guy do you want to date?
	Didn't you say you wanted like a tall black man?
	What's up, Desmond?
	By the way, he only dates black women.
	Just saying.
	My thing of life, my mantra, is if he ain't 6'3, he's not for me.
	You're 5' Yeah.
	6'3.
	6'3, that's like 1% of dudes or some shit.
	3%, I don't know.
	I get lucky.
	Oh my god.
	Wait, okay, so hold on.
	I'll just, I gotta move it on, but body count.
	I won't say.
	If you do, I do.
	What's your body count, Brian?
	Okay, starting with you.
	Range.
	Range.
	Give us range.
	Oh, cool.
	I'm cool.
	Okay.
	Can you do how much?
	Two.
	Two.
	Okay.
	Wait, two body count?
	Two body count.
	Do you have a video of losing your rigid country?
	On OnlyFans?
	What?
	Do you have a video of losing your rigidity on the OnlyFans then?
	No, I didn't lose my rigidity on OnlyFans.
	That was so bad.
	Just like.
	But I have to.
	I have to agree with Brian on the body count doesn't apply for men.
	Because in my theory, it's like if a man has gone through a lot of women, then he'll know who he wants to date.
	But if there's like a man who say he's never, he's a virgin or he only has one body count and he dates you, don't you think he'll be more suspicious or like he'll crave what other girls feel like?
	I do not disagree with a guy.
	I think it's probably better for a guy to not have experienced other women.
	Yeah.
	Really?
	Yeah, because like here's why.
	Like because there's this concept in like the I don't consider myself this really the red pill space where like women can get there's this term called alpha widow.
	Yeah.
	So like, once a girl has been with like a certain caliber of guy, if she dates a guy who doesn't like, say she breaks up with him right, and she moves on to another dude.
	If that next guy doesn't meet that caliber yeah, she's gonna be dissatisfied in the relationship, right.
	Yes, and they say this applies to women, which it does, but I actually think it can also apply to men on the sexual front too.
	Yeah, for example, for example, I think I am I don't know what the fucking term would be alpha widowed when it comes to sex with women.
	I'm alpha widowed.
	Now I could look.
	If a new girl doesn't meet the same standard i've experienced.
	I can stay with her, you know, but it would have been better if I had not had certain experiences.
	Wait, what's her body count?
	Again, don't worry about it and chase the dragon the rest of your life.
	So much i'll tell you what i'm being kind.
	Okay, let me.
	Let me be more precise.
	So there are some women bless their hearts who are very orgasmic, like that is kind of insane.
	Like boom boom, like literally three seconds, ten seconds later, ten seconds later, ten seconds later.
	You think it's the majority of women.
	No, it's rare.
	Okay, trust me yeah, and you would know because you have a high body count.
	She's a slot and she knows it.
	Here comes the whole look.
	Look, i'm just saying.
	I'm saying all pussy's good pussy okay, but there's some rare pussy, uh-huh.
	So you're saying if you're like a legendary in World Of Warcraft, like a certain pussy is legendary, you know, like only one or two people in the guild will get it, and what makes a legendary again okay, it's like Bruv.
	You know Bruv, are you London, British now?
	Yes, I'm British.
	Got the program.
	Got it.
	Look, I'm just saying these women that can come like 20 times super quick, super easy.
	Just saying.
	So you're saying if you had a body count of one or if you were a virgin, you wouldn't think about other women, like how their body felt and stuff?
	Well, if I didn't stumble across, like I was playing Russian roulette with my dick.
	Wait, that sounds weird.
	Like, I, I, I, not like, what the fuck?
	Andrew, don't, bro.
	It's like Russian roulette.
	Like, and then you stumble, but in, like, a good game of Russian roulette, where instead of dying, you land on a chick with like a magical pussy.
	You know what I mean?
	Well, she doesn't have a magical pussy, okay?
	She has like, like, just a regular, just a regular girl.
	Regular pussy.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	And that was your first.
	That's how you get.
	Women get very uncomfortable with this topic because they don't have.
	They might not have the magical pussy.
	Do you have magical dick?
	Period.
	No, it's average.
	Well say that was like your first, you know, that's how you lost your virginity, like to an average woman, I guess.
	Would you or would you not crave and want to feel what other pussies felt like?
	What do you mean?
	What do you mean?
	So I lose my virginity to an average.
	You lose your, yeah, you lose your virginity to average pussy, okay?
	Would you or would you not wonder what other pussies felt like?
	Because that's your first.
	Am I married?
	Am I married to this woman?
	You're in a relationship, though.
	I don't think so.
	Like, maybe?
	I don't know.
	Would you still watch corn?
	I don't watch porn in a relationship.
	What?
	Yeah, I don't watch porn if I'm in a relationship.
	Oh, my God.
	I don't masturbate either.
	What?
	Well, okay, I don't know.
	Are you just not fucking your boyfriend, or what's going on?
	Yeah, I'm having sex if I'm in a relationship.
	How long is your longest relationship?
	How's that?
	I don't know how that's relevant, but five years.
	Five years.
	Like, in the last year, did you have like how many times a week did you have sex?
	Well, look, I know you have a dead bedroom in your two-year relationship.
	No, but sex, yes.
	Are you just not fucking?
	What's going on?
	Chill out, bro.
	Yeah, I don't masturbate.
	I don't watch porn.
	It's like, one, to respect my girlfriend, and then two, it fucks up your brain if you're watching that shit.
	I don't think so, but if that's your choice, that I'm fine, mate.
	It's your choice.
	No, I leave it all for her.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Do it for you.
	What were we talking about?
	Do you guys watch porn?
	Masturbate when you're in a relationship or not?
	No.
	I rarely do, like, ever.
	Like, maybe not.
	No, I tell my girlfriend, you can't, even if she was masturbating before, you got to stop if you're with me.
	Oh, my God.
	I got to save that.
	Build that pent up sexually.
	That's ignorant.
	Am I unleash shit?
	You got to unleash it.
	Are you?
	I don't think that's normal.
	No.
	She's got to cut that shit out.
	She can be sexually frustrated and then she can unleash that frustration on and near my penis.
	Okay.
	Oh, are you in a relationship?
	Oh, did I say that?
	Oh, did you say that?
	I'm asking.
	I can't disclose.
	I don't disclose that on the podcast because it has stalkers.
	Oh, are you fucking?
	Just in general, are you just fucking?
	I don't disclose any details.
	Are you entering anyone's?
	Okay.
	Am I entering anyone's vaginas?
	Or I don't know.
	I'm a virgin.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What was the question?
	I don't remember.
	I have no idea.
	Shit.
	I was asking that.
	Wait.
	What were you talking about?
	Oh, body count.
	Yeah, body count.
	I'm not going to let you guys off the hook.
	Body count.
	Yeah, say.
	Range.
	Come on.
	10 plus.
	I were literally saying, 2?
	2.
	Okay.
	13.
	Okay.
	Between 1 and 99, and anything more than 7 years old falls off your credit score.
	Wait.
	Haram!
	Bro.
	Okay.
	Zero.
	Zero?
	Okay.
	What's the question?
	Body count?
	Like, no more.
	It's over 9,000!
	Sorry.
	That was Damien who pressed that.
	I would say no one's body count that's more than Brian's.
	What the fuck?
	Damn.
	Okay, that's a fair answer.
	So what is that?
	We have to ask Brian.
	I don't reveal.
	Well, no, you just said that it's not any higher than his.
	That's fine.
	What is that?
	I feel like his is like three.
	Three digits.
	Body count?
	I'm Aaron.
	So, one?
	Yeah.
	The only one that matters.
	Come on.
	Range?
	No, I don't say on a series.
	Zero.
	Zero.
	Yeah, I'm a virgin.
	Okay, what's your answer?
	Not very.
	Yo, Damien, am I a virgin?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, see?
	Yo, Desmond, am I a virgin?
	Yeah.
	See?
	Desmond hasn't.
	That's zero.
	I'm a zero.
	What's your body count?
	You're a virgin.
	What the fuck, bro?
	Okay, good talk.
	Wait, what about have you answered?
	Habibi?
	Habibi?
	Didn't you just say that?
	So, what about him?
	He didn't answer.
	Oh, I heard a bib.
	Okay.
	Shit.
	Body count?
	No, his.
	Who's?
	Oh, Andrew's.
	Go ahead, Andrew.
	He's married.
	Yeah.
	I guess our people don't count.
	Devon Jackson donated $69.
	Quick maths.
	800k plus only 20k followers, plus only 300 likes and 20 comments per post equals you selling, but we all know it.
	I'll tell you what, though.
	There's more coming in, by the way.
	I'll tell you, I'll tell you what my body count is if you tell me yours and we actually believe you.
	I'm.
	My body count is literally one.
	What?
	The legendary trash.
	She said that.
	Yo, Dave Hawn, thank you, man.
	Also, your right shoulder strap fell off.
	I died for second.
	Also, every time you scrunch your nose at me, guaranteed forehead kiss.
	Girl, stop.
	Who's baby girl?
	This one right here.
	Smoke in Sumner donated $69.
	If OnlyFans was shut down as well as dating apps, what would you pick up as a profession prostitution?
	Is illegal?
	Going around the panel.
	Oh, also, really quick?
	Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
	For the body count of the people.
	So I guess Tiffany's still zero, like the math or whatever.
	So yours is like nine.
	Wait, hold on.
	The real tricks donated $69.
	You don't understand how much models make depending on jobs.
	Smoking 800K is a lot, but not unrealistic.
	And she is pretty hot.
	She is hot.
	She's hot.
	Wait, hold on.
	I have to go to the intro really quick.
	Hold on.
	Sorry.
	sister.
	What's up Andrew?
	You probably, your viewers probably heard that.
	Oh, my God.
	Did this one come?
	Jack underscore M donated $69.
	Can we hear more from Green, Blue, Tats, Respectfully, and Gamer, CoolHair BTW?
	Just noticed.
	I kind of want to hear more of what they have to say rather than the Yakback 10.
	We need to hear more from Tiffany.
	About what?
	About.
	Oh, I know.
	Let's talk to Andrew about how men do everything better than women.
	One sec, one sec, one sec, one sec.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Let me try to get through the notes here in a little bit.
	But there was a message from Smoke and Sumner.
	Apps, what would you pick up as a profession?
	Oh, if OnlyFans was shut down, as well as dating apps, what would you pick up as a profession?
	She's the only girl who does OnlyFans, so I can really only ask her.
	Engineering.
	Right?
	Okay.
	Mechanical engineering.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Here, let me get through the notes here.
	Going back to you.
	We'll have to try to run through these quickly because we're going a bit over time here.
	Where is it?
	Men are not the best at everything.
	Men are not the best at everything.
	Andrew, quick 30-second response, and then.
	Yeah, so that's not the argument.
	So this is just a, it's very standard that people will reframe my argument because they don't like the entailment that my argument is correct because they usually are.
	So the argument is just this: that women are, they can reproduce, men cannot reproduce.
	And so they're always going to be better in the position of reproduction than men because they're the only ones who can do it.
	But when it comes to jobs and occupation, there's no jobs or occupation that women occupy that men could not occupy and do it just as well as women do.
	But there are jobs that men have and occupations that women will not be able to do as well as they do.
	Jobs and occupations only.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	I have to limit the responses here.
	Can I ask about one profession?
	Go ahead.
	Have I heard you say before that women are better liars?
	And if they are, would that mean they would be better undercover agents?
	Yeah, I don't think that they're better liars.
	I just think they lie more.
	Okay.
	You think women lie more than men?
	Yes.
	Yeah, makeup.
	In fact, makeup is a lie.
	In fact, in fact, listen, I can demonstrate this very quickly.
	I can demonstrate this very quickly, and I think every woman on the panel will agree with me.
	Women lie to each other constantly for self-esteem boosts.
	So they'll either omit, right, or they'll tell each other that they look beautiful when they don't look beautiful.
	They'll tell each other that they're great when they're not great.
	They will tell each other all sorts of things which are completely and totally false in order to create social cohesion.
	Men don't do that.
	Boom.
	We literally don't do that.
	If a man looks like shit and I notice that he looks like shit, I'll literally look at him and say, bro, you look like fucking dog shit.
	And he'll usually look at me and go, yeah, women don't do that.
	Boom, roasted.
	That's something that I wanted to ask.
	I've misinterpreted what we don't remember what said.
	We remember what we think about what we hear.
	You said online dating is trash in this digital world is what is keeping so many alone together.
	I don't feel like you can get to know someone via messaging at all.
	And it's not until you're in person you can get a sense of what someone is like.
	I move from messaging to a date fairly quickly because I hate messaging back and forth with people I don't know.
	Yeah, we've talked about that.
	You said you've been online twice this year and it feels more and more like a reject club.
	We've talked about that, yeah.
	I'm not a bottom feeder.
	I'm not going to do it anymore.
	I never wanted to do it in the first place.
	And I don't want that to be my story anyway.
	Yeah, I want to meet someone in real life.
	Okay.
	You said so many liberals conflate.
	Wait, hold on.
	Yeah, and this has kind of come up a couple times.
	People, so many liberals conflate femaleness or maleness with other characteristics or traits.
	And I think that that's what makes it so enticing for some women to treat their sexuality like it's a commodity, which is a very, very dangerous game to play because as soon as you commodify your sex, you can never get it back.
	And furthermore, I think it's also this It's also dangerous because it's what has turned into this whole gender ideology, which is just all lies and it's just not based in reality or truth.
	Because when if people like to talk about how the feminine is just your expression of what womanhood looks like, it's a performance.
	You're conflating your femaleness with another characteristic or trait.
	And being female isn't carrying a purse and putting on makeup.
	Being female is your nature.
	And you should hold your sexuality sacred and not commodify your sexuality and make sure that it and there's a distinction between being taught.
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	All right, cool.
	Going to you, actually.
	As a Ukrainian woman, you moved to Los Angeles in 2021.
	Your dating experiences have been challenging in Los Angeles.
	You haven't had a successful relationship so far.
	The woman you dated was not in the U.S., correct?
	She was Ukrainian.
	But in the U.S.?
	No, no, no.
	She was from Ukraine and she never moved here.
	Okay, but you've been single for two years.
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay.
	And you said the main challenges you've faced with men in Los Angeles have been differences in a sense of responsibilities, loyalty, values, and goals.
	There's often a significant gap between my personality and the individuals you've met in Los Angeles.
	Yeah.
	And you said you've been single for two years.
	You've been celibate for two years?
	No.
	Oh.
	When's the last time you?
	It was about yesterday.
	No, Wow.
	What was your last time?
	I feel like you need it.
	I'm a virgin.
	It was about.
	I pumped the brakes over there.
	It's not going to be yours.
	I feel like you need it.
	Who asked you, Andrew?
	You smoke your cigarette.
	Let's answer.
	Yeah.
	You were saying.
	Go ahead.
	It was about half a year ago.
	So, like, six months ago?
	Half a year, six months.
	Sorry, the math.
	Wow.
	Champagne really did you good.
	I am a lightweight.
	I'm still drunk, actually.
	Okay.
	And there's still half in there.
	All right.
	You can share with me.
	Yeah.
	I'm Ukrainian.
	Okay.
	They drink a lot, I think.
	What do you mean when you say difference in loyalty?
	What I sensed, not only from men, but from both men and women during my stay in the United States, specifically in California, LA, I noticed the different sense of the responsibility as it is.
	When I interact with the girls that possibly could become my friend or the men that could possibly become my partner, I often notice that their whole perception of the responsibility that they should possibly take within their interaction with me is different from my expectations and my standards.
	I am usually much more committed to either friendship or relationship.
	I just treat this whole bond differently from them, unfortunately.
	So I'm including Polya Morris' relationship and that I did not want.
	And oh, you've been in the Pauli relationship?
	No, What I'm saying is that it doesn't really fit my personality.
	And this is what oftentimes the man that I was getting to know closer here, they wanted it.
	Or even the friendship.
	Again, I'm not even talking about the dating experience right now.
	Just the regular girls, specifically LA girls, you know, the level of their responsibility for our friendship and their willingness to support, to be there for me.
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	I mean, facts, but you didn't need to interrupt me.
	Anyways, do you understand what I mean?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's good.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	That's beautiful.
	I have a question.
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	Men with a camera taking your Instagram photos doesn't make you a model.
	Like Drake said, don't tell me that you model if you ain't been involved.
	Boom, roasted.
	The roast session hasn't even started.
	Do you want to respond?
	You okay?
	Yeah, I'm good.
	I don't need to respond.
	You doing okay?
	You want Snickers?
	You're not yourself.
	Applesauce?
	You're not yourself when you're hungry.
	I'm good.
	Do you want to talk about it?
	No.
	Red flag.
	Onesie is kind of a flex.
	What the fuck?
	Okay.
	All right.
	I got a question about a deal breaker here.
	I'm just wondering.
	So anytime I go out to dinner with my wife, and then I had to think about this because she's pointed this out for years, but I just, you know, basically ignore everything she says like a good husband.
	But even thinking before her, right?
	Anytime I go out to eat with a woman, I basically finish my food in two minutes.
	So the food gets there, and then I eat it in two minutes.
	It's just gone.
	And then the woman is left with this full plate of food, and they just take fucking forever to eat.
	I don't know why.
	I don't know why women take forever to eat, but they take forever to eat.
	So is that a deal breaker?
	Like, if I was on the dating market in the year 2024, and I went out to dinner with a woman, and the food comes, you know, it's a big plate of food, and then I just inhale mine because that's what I do.
	Literally two minutes, the food is gone.
	Does that upset women?
	Do they get mad about that?
	Are men supposed to pace themselves?
	Are we supposed to just cut our food in like little teeny tiny bites and eat that shit that way?
	I'm curious.
	I'm like, genuine question.
	You know what?
	We're actually going to kind of put this to the test.
	Cena, can you one bite, rice krispy treat.
	She's struggling almost as much as I struggle with that champagne.
	But it is true, Andrew.
	That's actually a really good point.
	There's this funny video of a guy who, like, he was sitting next to his girlfriend.
	And they had the same.
	No, no, no, you can only do it in one bite.
	Go. I have to.
	Oh.
	Yes! Yes!
	She did it!
	Let's wow, she's got a talent there.
	Andrew, this is the perfect woman, according to the stop.
	It's ridiculous.
	Here, what you shook this mouth.
	Look, it's her talent, okay?
	She does TikTok.
	She's going to choke to death.
	I'm making her laugh to me.
	She's going to choke.
	Andrew, you're going to get me a lawsuit here.
	Oh, boy.
	Yeah, so I mean, that's a good question.
	So, literally, I'm not kidding when I say this.
	We were just, I don't remember, we were going, we were going over to the hospital to visit her dad, and we stopped off at a Denny's, right?
	And so, they, you know, I ordered like this massive plate of food with like eggs, bacon, and sausage, and then I had a side of pancakes with it.
	So, we sit down at the table, and I swear it wasn't two minutes, this entire all of it gone.
	And she still had the whole plate of food.
	It's not a deal-breaker, Andrew, did you just like warp it down really quick?
	Because I eat super fast.
	Yeah, I know.
	Like, remember, so we were leaving whatever studio.
	We went over and we got these burgers, right?
	So, we sit down and we bullshit it for like 30 minutes while they made the burgers.
	The burgers come out, they were gone in two minutes, and then we were, you know, we were up.
	So, basically, the entire dinner that we went to, leaving the whatever studio, took two minutes.
	It just took, it took us two, the food was all gone, and we were up and up and walking, right?
	Is that it?
	Are you supposed to do it?
	Is that like good decorum on a date?
	I don't know.
	I haven't been in the dating market in years and years, but is it just bad decorum on a date?
	If I went out on a date with a chick and I was like, hey, you want to go to this nice restaurant?
	They brought this big giant steak to both of us, and I just inhaled that thing in two minutes.
	Would that be a problem?
	Ladies, that's a question for the ladies.
	I don't think so.
	No, it's not a problem.
	I truly believe that you need to eat exactly in the pace that you are comfortable with.
	And I mean, if you appreciate that woman, you will wait for a little bit.
	The pace that I'm comfortable with.
	Yeah, I think it's kind of weird for you to match someone's pace of eating.
	Why would you do that?
	That's cooked.
	That's funny.
	But then, okay, can you tell me why the fuck women eat so slow?
	I actually don't understand it.
	I'm like, There's a video on it.
	I don't get it.
	You're not.
	You don't have to like.
	I'm here to explain that.
	First of all, we're trying to eat aesthetically plasma for you.
	You know, we're trying to not mess it up.
	This is one of the main reasons why usually women eat a little slower than you guys do.
	The second thing, maybe we yap a little more than you do during that dinner, you know?
	It's fast.
	Maybe we do follow the recommendations of that nutritionist that we had a consultation with that says, oh, you gotta really chew like 30 times.
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	I have a video.
	I have a video 1 Timothy 2, 11 to 15 and also 1 Timothy 6, 12.
	Can Andrew please tell me what this means?
	Wait, Andrew, before you do.
	Besides the Ten Commandments, I also try to follow the Bill of Rights.
	Andrew, before you do, I have a video for us.
	Can you pull it up?
	Yeah, well, something like that already.
	It's fine.
	Sometimes TikTok gets bugged, so just do it, not F11.
	Windows fine.
	Okay, go ahead, play it.
	Trying to match my girlfriend's eating pace.
	So, Andrew, you're going to love this one.
	I feel so bad for this guy.
	It's exactly how I feel.
	Like, that would have been gone already.
	It would have all been gone.
	But this is exactly what you're talking about, Andrew.
	Yeah, he's intentionally what I'm talking about.
	He's intentionally trying to match her eating pace.
	I had a girlfriend who's just like this, man.
	Well, it looks like she's watching something and he's just watching her.
	Dude, even if you're watching something, I eat faster when I'm watching something.
	That one just looks so good.
	It's distracting.
	Where's that burger from?
	It does look homemade, doesn't it?
	Why do they take forever to eat?
	I don't get it.
	It's crazy.
	Women do check out the music.
	My wife has a chewer than men.
	Did you want to taste your food?
	You know, so I'm one of those guys, right?
	I don't eat a lot, but when I do eat, I eat a big portion, right?
	So I'm one of those guys.
	Wait, what?
	All of your suggested videos the same girl talking about me right now.
	You know, just wait your turn, right?
	Interesting over here for a second.
	Talking about me.
	So anyway, one of those guys eat the big meal, one big meal a day.
	And I just consume it in seconds, right?
	It's just gone.
	Now, I feel like every guy I've ever gone to lunch with or whatever eats at about the same pace.
	Lightning, right?
	It's just gone.
	I don't know why women eat so slow.
	Andrew, your response to the TTS that came in, Andrew, please tell me what this means: the Timothy, Timothy verse.
	Oh, can't hear you.
	Andrew, can't hear you?
	I'd have to pull the verses up and read them.
	Here, I'll play that again.
	I don't know if it helps.
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	My favorite Bible versus 1 Timothy 2:11 to 15 and also 1 Timothy 6:12.
	Can Andrew please tell me what this means?
	Because besides the Ten Commandments, I also try to follow the Bill of Rights.
	Andrew.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	This just sounds like trolling nonsense.
	I don't even know what the fuck that means because I think it's all the Bill of Rights.
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	Thank you so much for the TTS, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Thank you, everybody else, for all the TTSs.
	Do you have a response to this?
	Going to you, Elizabeth, your notes here.
	Your husband and you both served in the same battalion, and you never knew he had interacted with me, or I had met him a couple times before we started dating, but we got engaged four months after the first date, married three months later.
	What branch of the military were you guys in?
	Army.
	Army?
	Army.
	Why you say it like that?
	Why do you say it like that, Andrew?
	Army.
	Andrew, why do you say it like that?
	She said she was an 88 Mike.
	That's an Army allocation for MOS.
	You're talking shit about the Army, Andrew?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	You think it's interesting that we seem to have moved from a pimp culture in the early 2000s to the 305 culture we are currently in?
	Yeah, I definitely think that in the early 2000s, there was a lot more focus on like pimping culture.
	So even in the music.
	And then I think with the emerging of some female rap artist, we've come into this culture of empowering this kind of whole 304 culture.
	And I think it's a little bit problematic.
	Real core culture.
	Real four culture.
	But I do.
	I think it's a little bit problematic because not only are we as adults like consuming this, but like young girls are too.
	And I think that's why we are in the situation where we have young girls becoming of age and starting things like OnlyFans.
	True.
	Now, you really quickly, we can't talk about too long.
	Your biggest issue with the show.
	Biggest issue.
	You got the biggest issue with the show.
	This woman has a huge issue with the show.
	Not that big.
	It's Desiree.
	It's Desiree.
	It's not the show.
	It's Desiree.
	It's just a little bit of a show.
	Really quick, what's your issue with Desiree?
	What's going on with Desiree?
	My issue with Desiree is that she came on the show portraying that she is a therapist.
	She's not.
	She really made Cal Baptists look bad.
	That's a great school.
	And it is rooted in Christian faith.
	And they don't ordain female ministers.
	And her degree does not qualify for the state standards of a marriage and family therapist.
	And I think it's problematic to promote yourself as a relationship coach, a whatever life coach, whatever she is, but and also argue with Andrew that she is of the higher authority when she really doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about.
	And then also the stolen dollar thing.
	Yeah, and then, well, not even that, that, because she was black.
	She was still, she said she was in the military.
	She's a therapist.
	She's a sex coach.
	She's related to Hitler.
	She's related to Hitler.
	She was an officer in the army.
	Yeah.
	Well, and that's the, that was the craziest story.
	But it just, it, I'm a Leo.
	I need her to make it fucking make sense for me, and it doesn't.
	And I think that it's problematic.
	She's made an ass out of herself and thinks she's an authority of what?
	I don't know.
	You also said, just moving off of Desiree, situationships are just commitment issues rebranded.
	There's a fine line between keeping things casual and avoiding commitment entirely.
	And many people settle for gray area relationships rather than confronting their fears of attachment.
	Yeah, I think that situationships are fear of commitment.
	I also don't really see the point of, like I think I said, like dating for long periods of time with no commitment.
	I just don't understand that.
	I mean, it's not for me, but everybody's going to live their life.
	I'm going to ask you just really briefly before you move to the next note.
	In modernity, it almost seems wise for a man to fear commitment.
	I understand that.
	I think I'm talking more so from the perspective of a woman.
	Well, they don't seem like they fear commitment nearly as much as men do.
	Men seem to be the one who are moving away from the committed relationships, it seems in modernity anyway.
	But I think modern women are contributing to why men are moving away from commitment in their actions.
	Yeah, so whether or not that that's if they have, if they're running from commitment or not, some of the actions that modern women are doing are pushing men away anyways.
	Oh, I thought there was going to be more of a back and forth there.
	Okay.
	By the way, guys, TTS is now set to, give me one sec, guys, here.
	TTS is now set to $20, $20 TTS.
	We're going to do a row session, then we're going to wrap the show.
	Really quick, though, to finish up with your notes, you also wrote that therapy talk isn't a free pass.
	Using phrases like boundaries and attachment styles without understanding them can feel like people are hiding behind therapy language to avoid accountability or overanalyzing every teeny issue instead of just getting to know each other.
	Yeah, I think that for some reason, well, I think that people are trying to destigmatize mental health and that kind of got ran wild with.
	And now everybody's a narcissist, now everybody's being gaslit, everybody's lacking boundaries, they all have trauma.
	And I think it's really harmful because I think you need to take responsibility for your trauma, whatever you want to call it.
	You need to take responsibility for that and it's not on other people to fix it.
	So, and it's also a poor excuse to like can you can you I agree largely with this take.
	I would maybe like to ask a question because this is mind-blowing to me.
	I can't think of another perceived medical profession which wants to be taken seriously, which would ever allow laymen to speak on its behalf.
	So, in other words, if somebody was sitting on the panel talking to us and saying, I'm not a doctor, but I'm going to explain to you exactly how this surgery goes or how to diagnose you with AB and C conditional that you have, people would say, no, you should defer to a physician.
	Why in the world do you think that women think that it's okay, unless psychology itself is just basically viewed as a joke, to psychoanalyze everybody that they meet?
	It's insane to me.
	They call them narcissists.
	They say that they have psychopathy.
	They say that there's, you know, some type of borderline personality disorder.
	They overanalyze and over-psychologize everybody.
	And I don't understand why that's allowed when in any other profession, we would say, no, you're not qualified to make those assessments.
	Right.
	I mean, I agree with you.
	I think that there's an overconsumption of armchair psychiatrists and therapists on TikTok.
	They've done studies on that to the point of ADHD that 100% of the videos tagged with ADHD awareness have misinformation or misleading information.
	And the same with narcissism and things like that.
	So I think people are overconsuming mental health content and they're getting the wrong information.
	And then as such, they are psychoanalyzing people.
	But I also think it's a very important thing.
	You think that these organizations would run campaigns against this in order to not cheapen the very idea of the profession of psychology.
	But I don't see any pushback at all.
	Right.
	People make these grandiose claims about various disorders of various people that they've diagnosed.
	They have no training in these fields whatsoever.
	That's incredible to me that there's so little pushback, though, from these industries.
	I just wonder what your take was.
	It's incredible to me, too.
	I think that there should be a regulation.
	Well, I have a couple of really strong views.
	I don't believe in life coaches or things like coaching.
	It's an unregulated field.
	And I think that's also contributed to the harm with the mental health.
	But I also don't think that we people who are not qualified to speak on certain topics in general should not be able to be an authority on social media.
	And the problem is, is that on social media now, if you're speaking about something, people are taking it as advice.
	And not everybody's qualified to do that.
	Okay.
	And I did want to clarify something, though, because there was somebody on the podcast too who said that they had a bachelor's degree in psychology.
	A bachelor's degree in psychology also does not give you any Credentials, training, or anything on diagnosing.
	They don't even talk about diagnosing in a bachelor's degree program.
	I have a bachelor's in psychology.
	And then a final note here for you.
	By the way, TTS is $20.
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	You also said being unhealed is not an excuse.
	Everyone has baggage, but dating shouldn't involve relying on others to fix you.
	Sometimes the best move is stepping back to work on yourself instead of jumping into a relationship.
	Yeah, I mean, case in point, what I said.
	I'm also a therapist, so, but I feel like we look for others to kind of fill empty spaces within ourselves sometimes.
	And really, what needs to happen is we need to step back and look at the mirror because even with therapeutic work, the world is not changing around you.
	You are changing, right?
	So that's why things like boundaries and stuff start to work because you start removing yourself from those situations.
	People are not going to change around you.
	The world is not a safe place, unfortunately.
	And so you have to do the work for yourself and not put it on other people.
	Well, isn't this most of this tied back to a materialist mindset of I have some type of void or something in which I want, and so therefore a material thing will fill that.
	In this case, just looking at another human being as being a material object, which fills the void, right?
	This is the same concept, isn't it?
	Exactly.
	Well, and that's why, too, with even online dating sites, it's like Amazon, right?
	You're going through, you're swiping, you're picking, you're picking, you're picking one to add to your collection or to add to your life.
	And then you get upset in three, four, five months when it didn't fill up the void because you didn't do the work.
	And then you go on TikTok and call him a narcissist.
	You can find this alternative to materialism itself, don't you?
	There's no way around that, right?
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I mean, I watched it.
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	Okay.
	Fuck.
	Guys, can you roast me?
	I need to be.
	Anissa needs to be roasted.
	I think real quick.
	She wants to be while there's a break.
	It's 3:30 in the morning here on the East Coast, and I have an appointment I have to get to in the morning.
	We are at the end of the show, though, Brian.
	But I do have to mouse out a tiny bit early today.
	Yeah, of course.
	Appreciate you coming on the show, Andrew.
	Shoot us over a raid.
	I'll welcome the Crucible crew with open arms.
	Thank you so much, Andrew, for joining us tonight.
	It was a good stream.
	No problem.
	It was great to meet everybody on the panel.
	It was nice to meet you also.
	I do enjoy the spirited back and forth.
	I hold no ill will towards anybody here.
	And this was a great set and a great show.
	So thank you so much, guys.
	Appreciate it.
	Yo, Andrew, have a good night.
	By the way, guys, before Andrew leaves, oh, no, he's still there.
	Guys, so we have a big guest on Sunday.
	Andrew will be doing a call-in on Sunday, you know, assuming there's no hiccups with anything.
	And then we're going to be co-streaming on Election Day, November 5th, on Tuesday.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, are you going to be in the studio for that, by the way?
	What's that?
	Are you going to be in your studio here for that?
	Yeah, I'll be here.
	And we'll just basically just have you do a call in.
	You have your stream, and I'll have mine.
	And we'll just kind of just watch what's going on with the election.
	So, guys, I'll vote Trump.
	Everybody, vote Trump.
	Vote Trump.
	Vote Trump.
	Anyway, I got to get out of here.
	Yeah, good night, Andrew.
	Good night, Andrew.
	Have a good night.
	Thank you.
	Have a good night.
	Kudos.
	Respectfully, I've been trying to make it till 12:30, but respectfully, my brain's been shutting down for 30 minutes, and it's a good time for me to say goodbye to you.
	I've been out for like five, ten minutes.
	Okay.
	Just hang tight here.
	Tenzin, here, Cina, you get to read these super chats.
	Cina, you're cute.
	Don't waste yourself on OF.
	Tiffany, be proud of your Korean face.
	Army, Amy, Army, Army 35F, Panda Down Bad.
	Who's Panda?
	That one guy who's Trash Panda who wants to.
	Oh, the feet guy.
	What are you doing?
	She's flirting with Trash Panda.
	Yeah.
	We have a connection now.
	Okay, we have this one also.
	If you want to read it, Cena.
	The same thing.
	Oh, it's the same shit.
	Oh, it's no?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Wait.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, Panda Down Bad.
	Did he put it?
	It's the same one?
	Yeah.
	Oh, he sent it twice?
	Okay.
	All right.
	Thank you, Tenzin.
	Appreciate it, guys.
	If you want, get your last-minute last call, guys, on the Row session.
	$20 TTS.
	We have this one.
	Ghost Hammer donated $20.
	Brian, would you like some pineapple pizza?
	Andrew, cool beans.
	Yes.
	I actually don't like pineapple pizza, but I will have it when Andrew's here, just to torture him.
	Let's see here.
	What?
	Yo, the Crucible, Crucible, the Crucible.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Andrew, for the raid.
	He just sent over a raid.
	Really appreciate it, Andrew.
	Welcome, everybody, from the Crucible.
	Guys, guys, Crucible crew.
	I know some of you have Twitch accounts.
	If you guys could so kindly follow us on Twitch, because one of these days, me and Andrew are going to be playing World of Warcraft together on my Twitch channel.
	I won't be streaming that shit here on my main whatever YouTube channel.
	Pull up the guys, so that's twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Can you guys get us?
	We're 25 followers away.
	Crucible, Crucible crew.
	Guys, you guys got Twitch accounts.
	25 of you.
	Get us to 93,500 followers.
	Guys, drop us a follow before we wrap up the stream.
	Also, boys, I think it's bugged, boys.
	The Prime subs, Twitch is bugged.
	I don't know what's going on.
	Can somebody see if we can like, it's been four minutes since we last got Prime.
	Can somebody check from the Crucible if the, you know, if maybe the Prime is working again on Twitch?
	Lugasin, thank you for the Prime.
	92, thank you for the Prime.
	1776, thank you for the Prime.
	Mitchell, thank you for the prime.
	Des Lukatha Cannibal, thank you for the prime.
	Ginger perks, thank you for whatever.
	I can't see it because we're blocked.
	Guys, thank you for all the follows over there on Twitch.
	Really appreciate it.
	We're trying to build up our following on Twitch.
	So I appreciate all the follows.
	And if you can, check if you have a Prime sub available.
	Also, guys, like the video.
	Also, discord.gg/slash whatever.
	Check it out.
	Best community on Discord.
	And we post all the BTS stuff, all the rage quits, all the kickouts that we can't show on YouTube.
	Also, shout out Stiffler, hashtag BigLabia Matter.
	Anybody here rocking?
	Sorry, did I say that out loud?
	My bad.
	I'm just trying to support.
	I'm just like a solidarity.
	I'm trying to show solidarity with all the Big Labia ladies.
	$20 TTS.
	We have a couple coming through.
	Snapmore donated $20.
	We are too involved in materialistic things and they don't satisfy us.
	The loving relationships we have, the universe around us, we take these things for granted.
	Snapmore, thank you very much for the TTS, man.
	I really appreciate it.
	Shakespeare.
	Night donated $20.
	It's a good cast.
	Love the cast tonight.
	10 out of 10.
	The banter between chair six and Brian was awesome.
	Wait, really?
	Green is chill as hell, too.
	Bread, keep your skin clean.
	The banter, was there banter between us?
	I feel like we're just consulting each other mostly.
	Yeah.
	I guess that's banter for some people.
	All right.
	Smirkies donated $20.
	Chair 1 Tame Kardashian.
	Chair 5, your nose is fine.
	Yeah, chill out, Tiffany.
	Yeah.
	What are you going to even do?
	What are you going to do to your nose?
	No. You'd like...
	What's the problem?
	Is it from the side?
	Is it from the front or from the side?
	I'm leaving in the front.
	You're tripping, bro.
	Yo, ladies, is she tripping?
	Yeah, she's a little bit of a drink.
	She's fucking tripping.
	I was saying that I want my nose to be like higher like a white person's because I don't like my Asian flat nose, but I actually want my nose to be flatter.
	Like I want to be like, I want to like curve it down like that.
	Wait, turn to the.
	It's like straight.
	I know, and I don't like how it's so like straight.
	You want it up, you know?
	I want it to like curve down a little like that.
	Okay, I'm not sure what you're talking about, but sure.
	The real tricks donated $20.
	NGL.
	Simping on red.
	Gorgeous.
	Aww.
	Period.
	Are you like trying to do the ahi gal thing or whatever?
	What is it?
	Captain Awesome donated $20.
	None of these women are attractive enough to simp over.
	Damien, why are you laughing at me?
	You should not know what that is.
	Damien, do you have a waifu pillow?
	Like an anime pillow?
	Yes.
	Do you wait?
	Are you joking?
	Are you serious?
	No, I'm serious.
	Oh my gosh.
	Okay.
	Wait, do you know you don't know what the a hey gal?
	How do you fucking say that shit?
	Doesn't matter.
	I do not know what that is.
	How do you say it at all?
	All right, show her.
	Show her.
	I can't.
	Do it.
	Huh?
	No, like, no, no, no.
	Do it.
	Show here, but show her.
	It's like when you like stick your tongue across your eyes, right?
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Oh, no, no, Wait, no.
	Mike was blocking you.
	No, don't do it again.
	Don't do it again.
	Okay.
	No, I totally understand what you're talking about.
	No, I totally agree with the comments.
	Every single compliment that I hear about all the women here, I just kind of support it with my tongue.
	I don't know.
	It was random.
	Anyway.
	What?
	It's after midnight now.
	As soon as Andrew leaves, I start becoming a fucking weeb or whatever.
	Okay, we have a few more coming through.
	Daryl underscore Frank Castle 512 donated $20.
	I'm an NYC grandma.
	It's 338 a.m. out here.
	Stop complaining.
	Chair 3 looks like the champagne can't go down after two cups.
	First show with no rage quits.
	Congrats.
	I know it's been a string of Daniel Nosseri donated $20.
	Yo, Daniel, thank you, man.
	Mental health issues are not an excuse for your degeneracy.
	Whether you like it or not, no white dude will ever date a white chick that has taken a BBC, no matter how sweet and remorseful you are.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	I wish Leo Jennifer would come back on this podcast.
	Oh, Daniel.
	I mean, tell her to come back on.
	The invitation's there.
	I think she's funny.
	Were you on with her?
	Yeah.
	With Layla?
	Yeah.
	No.
	When she kept hitting on you?
	You were on that show.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, you know.
	She should come back on.
	She's funny.
	We have some guy.
	Do you want to read this one, Cena?
	Chair four, you need to lock something down now.
	Chair five, no, no, the nose job.
	You're fine the way you are.
	Chair six, ratchet AF, hard pass.
	Chair seven, thank you for your service, sister.
	Hey, this is a message.
	I just know this guy is Ratchet.
	To call me Roger.
	Takes one to no one.
	Is that like the take?
	Oh, wait.
	Yeah.
	Oh, my God.
	I was about to just repeat.
	Takes one to no one.
	You already said it.
	Sorry, my brain is like on running on zero.
	Zero.
	Wait.
	And then there was, let's see what we have.
	Okay, guys, last call on the TTS's.
	Oops, my bad.
	Last call on the TTS's, guys, if you want to get them in.
	We're going to wrap up here.
	I'm going to get a Twitch raid going.
	Any final thoughts?
	Final disagreements?
	Final arguments?
	Final whatever?
	Dating?
	Anything dating related?
	You want to ask me a question about dating?
	Because I'm obviously an expert and know everything.
	Anything from anybody?
	Disagreements?
	Question?
	Thoughts?
	Opinion?
	Feelings?
	I had a great time today.
	Yeah, thanks for letting me in the conversation.
	Thank you guys for coming.
	Appreciate it.
	Appreciate it.
	We're going to do who are we going to raid?
	Let's see.
	Who?
	What's up?
	Good night.
	It's 12:30.
	Oh.
	You can't stay for the.
	Nope.
	It's like you're heart out.
	Yeah, I've been watching the clock looking for 12:30 for 20 minutes.
	And then you said we were almost done, and so I was like, okay, I'll stick it out to my father.
	Oh, that's what I'm doing.
	That's what I'm doing right now.
	Saying goodbye.
	Yeah, it's like probably three minutes.
	Kind of rude, but okay.
	It's okay, though.
	Some people have heart outside.
	I'm doing my best here.
	It's going to be 48 hours at 8 a.m.
	20.
	No, she rage quit before I said.
	I don't think.
	I mean, if I want to be like a goblin, I would call it a rage quit, but it wasn't a rage quit.
	Look, she's tired.
	She's tired.
	We have to be understanding.
	We have to be understanding.
	Five-inch legends donated $20.
	Bop, bop, You a bop panel of bop boptatius.
	Boppathon gold medal at the whole Olympics.
	Bop, Girl in red apop.
	No, did he.
	No, no, okay.
	Olympics.
	There you go.
	Crazy here.
	Do we raid woe grandma?
	Yo, chat.
	Twitch chat and YouTube chat.
	Do we raid raid woe grandma?
	Or do we raid Ampy?
	He's a World of Warcraft classic player who's a male and he's playing hardcore classic.
	He's playing a mage, though.
	Chat, do we raid Ampy?
	Twitch chat, do we raid Ampy or do we raid Woe Grandma?
	Pick one.
	Pick one.
	That's who we're gonna raid.
	One sec, guys.
	Go, wholesome Brian.
	Wholesome grandma.
	We always raid her, though.
	Always raid her.
	Sure, we'll do it.
	We'll do wholesome.
	We'll do wholesome.
	I was toxic tonight, so I feel if I'm kind of toxic, I have to do a little wholesome moment at the end there.
	So okay, let me do the outro.
	One sec, guys.
	I'm getting the raid all set up.
	Okay.
	Can you get Woe Grandma pulled up here, Damien?
	I'll get that sent on the bed.
	Guys, like the video on your way out.
	Let me send, let that come through.
	Siri donated $20.
	Emergency herpes meds need to be applied on time to the minute bro.
	Is what it is.
	The minute?
	What's that?
	She's on breakground.
	Oh.
	Oh, she's.
	Okay, well, I'll check in in just a sec after I do the intro.
	If she's still on break, then we'll raid Ampi.
	Okay, so I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity to give you a call to action.
	Would you consider stopping sex work entirely tonight?
	Why?
	Because I said so.
	That was a terrible sale.
	Sorry.
	That was bad.
	Because I said so.
	And the whatever podcast is hiring and will hire you.
	We pay slave wages.
	Anissa back.
	We are hiring more background characters.
	And we will give you a job.
	But you have to stop being a whore.
	I mean, OnlyFans Girl.
	Sorry.
	Sorry, Well, no.
	What the f, bruh.
	Because why would I want to be your background character when I can be the main character in my right?
	I'm also not from what the fuck, Desmond.
	Wait, you're not what?
	I'm not from here.
	Oh, right.
	Well, you're just going to illegally immigrate, and then Tiffany can hate you for it.
	She's Canadian.
	But okay, so.
	Okay, fine.
	You don't get...
	I retract the job offer.
	Will you just stop doing sex work for the good of the nation of Canada?
	Actually, you know what?
	Keep doing sex work.
	Fuck Canada.
	Actually, no, stop sex work.
	Because still.
	What?
	What?
	You're really a bad salesman.
	You are a bad salesman.
	Okay, you pitch her then.
	That was not my goal.
	That was yours.
	Okay, give her the Russian pitch.
	No, you can try it once again.
	Just do it better.
	Huh?
	Just do it better.
	Sale of the marriage.
	You're still.
	Okay, here's the pitch.
	Here, I'll give you a pitch, Cena.
	You're 18.
	You're still young.
	You can get out of this shit.
	Because I've seen a lot of girls.
	Look, I've interviewed over a thousand girls on this podcast.
	200 to 300 of which were not that much different from you.
	Some of them older than you.
	Some of them have been doing the porn shit much longer, right?
	I've had a lot of girls who used to be in the shit and they regret it.
	They say, yeah, all that money wasn't fucking worth it.
	In any case, you're going to become Canada, has a good social safety net system.
	So you're fine, even if you get homeless, whatever.
	The government will take care of you.
	Secondly, secondly, you're going to become a mechanical engineer.
	You already have high earning potential.
	What good does it do a man?
	Oh my God.
	Fuck.
	Hold on.
	Sorry.
	So sorry.
	What good does it do a man to sell his soul?
	But for what shall I distracted me, bro?
	For what?
	Cena, look at me.
	Look at me.
	Look at me in the eyes.
	Are you looking?
	Hold on, let's do a split.
	Give me a split.
	Cena.
	For what shall it profit a man?
	Though he should win.
	Oh my, this is not the right Bible verse, bro.
	For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world yet forfeits his soul?
	Sucking dick on camera, bro.
	You're forfeiting your soul.
	I don't know if you're doing that.
	I don't know if you're sucking dick.
	I'm just saying, OnlyFans Girls do suck dick.
	But at what cost?
	The cost.
	But at what cost, Cena?
	The cost of connecting with your fans, getting to know people personally.
	Oh, fuck.
	God.
	The cost of.
	Excuse me.
	That was so late.
	Are you okay?
	Are you okay?
	Cena.
	Yes.
	You guys stop this shit, bro.
	What are you giving me in return?
	Your soul.
	But I have a soul.
	No, you're selling it.
	So you're giving my soul back to you?
	Yes, I'm giving you your soul back.
	Before you're giving it back to yourself.
	Is there an end button?
	Dariel Underscore Frank Castle 512 donated $20.
	Brain, she has to go feed her cats.
	Let her go.
	She's a perfect example on how even, fat, ugly, and old beaches still have more dating options than an attractive man.
	Oh my god.
	Pandaslayer donated $20.
	Chair 3, I will fight Panda for your hand in marriage.
	10 tenths.
	Wow, there's a panda trash pan.
	Thor donated $20.
	Hey, Leila, Jenna, one of the panel guests, recognizes you.
	Even Brian I want you back.
	Chat clip this.
	She's kind of famous, that's why.
	Is she?
	Yeah, I've seen her on TikTok.
	Savani's donated $20.
	Brian, thanks for all the hard work you and the team do behind the scenes.
	Yo, W Damian.
	Six one, you don't need the materials of the world.
	Double validation.
	Got the double D back.
	Yo, thank you so much, Sivan.
	It's really appreciated.
	Thor, Panda Slayer, all you guys, all you guys who are super supportive and who are patrons of the show.
	We could not do it without you.
	I'm not saying that to exaggerate or gas any of you guys up.
	Like, we could not do the show without the viewers, without the, you know, it's viewer supported.
	Like a podcast in terms of the viewership we do, the audience size we have, the live viewers, and the total views that the show gets.
	I mean, bro, we should be on some color daddy shit.
	Like, that's what we should be.
	We should be getting the.
	Wait, hold on.
	Am I about to.
	Oh, no.
	Wait.
	Now, who's gonna be the Medici family and stand up and let me create more?
	Or do you want to marginalize me till I'm out of my moment?
	Bro, I'm telling you, man.
	That's.
	I don't know.
	What's all the like common?
	I don't know.
	What's like the common YouTube sponsor?
	Audible?
	We're not getting that shit, bro.
	Anyways, whatever.
	Okay, okay.
	Cena, read this, please.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Trash Panda Chair 8.
	Discord says you're probably with like horn chips and B-O-L-O-L.
	Chair 3, I bid you farewell, my maiden.
	Come find me on my Discord, my beloved.
	Let me at them feet.
	What the fuck?
	What?
	What?
	Oh, you can take that seat over there, okay?
	Oh, sorry.
	Yeah, that's all good.
	We'll just get everybody at the panel.
	Let's see here, guys.
	Okay, they just keep coming in.
	Kitten Bear donated $20.
	Brian, what a fact.
	Your sales pitches suck.
	Chair 8, you're my fave.
	Chair 1, smile.
	Chair 3, I'll fight the raccoon 2 for your honor, but keep those hoofs to yourself.
	Thanks to everyone tonight.
	Okay.
	Let's see here.
	Just getting everything all figured out.
	Oh, the call to action.
	Okay, so you'll stop?
	No.
	Okay, here's $2.
	I'll give it to you if you do the into this camera, the ahi gal.
	Go ahead, do it.
	$2?
	$2.
	It's worth more than $2.
	You did it for free earlier, so shut up.
	Not worth it.
	You know how much a $2 bill is worth?
	No.
	Oh, wait.
	It's worth more than $2.
	Look at that.
	But I'm from Canada.
	Yeah, so it's worth like a million dollars in your currency.
	Canadian dollars.
	What do you mean?
	Yeah, your Canadian dollars are shite.
	No, they're plastic.
	Okay, all right.
	So you'll quit OnlyFans then?
	No.
	Okay, good talk.
	Okay.
	I tried my best.
	Okay, so, GG.
	Wait, ah, sorry, guys.
	Did not mean what the fuck?
	That was my bad.
	GG.
	Well played.
	To the panel, last call.
	Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Let me just double check here.
	Okay.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who so generously supports the show.
	Super chats, donates, watches, prime subs, all that stuff.
	Really appreciate you guys.
	Thank you so much for supporting the show.
	Thank you to the panel.
	You guys were dope.
	Thank you guys.
	We will be live again.
	Stay Tuesday.
	Sunday.
	Sunday.
	Sorry, losing track of time here.
	We'll be live again Sunday at 5 p.m. Pacific with another dating talk.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out, whatever, on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara.
	I'm going to send the raid to Wogram if you can get that pulled up.
	We're going to send that over here right now.
	Guys, she's World of Warcraft Classic.
	She's 82.
	Be nice, okay?
	Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
	I'm sending the raid right now.
	I hope you guys have a good night.
	That's going on Twitch on YouTube.
	We'll get out of here in just a moment.
	Is there audio on?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, she's.
	Oh, there.
	She is just.
	I don't know what she's doing now.
	Less than five minutes.
	So still not, hey, thank you for the rage.
	Who is Jess Priest trying to invite me?
	Why is somebody trying to invite me?
	Why?
	Some priest is trying to invite her.
	Unbelievable.
	Welcome, Raiders.
	She goes hard.
	This is her.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you.
	Oh, it's a whatever.
	W Wo Grandma, keep pwning noobs or whatever.
	My goodness sakes.
	Uh-oh.
	What are you guys saying in the chat?
	Welcome, everybody.
	What are you guys saying in the chat?
	All right.
	I don't know who Jess Priest is.
	Neither do I.
	Okay, all right.
	All right.
	There it is, folks.
	That's the show.
	That's the show.
	Like the video, please.
	I don't think I've ever read Girl Start Clap.
	All right.
	So let me just double check.
	Make sure there's no other chats that came in.
	No, we are all good.
	Okay, guys.
	Like the video.
	07s in the chat.
	Good night, guys.

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