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She Dated TRISTAN TATE?! 6 Years Celibate?! Men Should Pay For EVERYTHING?! Andrew Wilson! | Dating Talk #193

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	I'm Elisa.
	I'm 19, and I'm a student at UCSB, and I'm from the Bay Area.
	All right.
	What are you studying at UCSB?
	Biology.
	Do you want to be a doctor?
	We'll see, yeah.
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	Okay, still figuring it out?
	Got it.
	What about you?
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	I'm a content creator and a student still, and I'm 28 years old from the Netherlands.
	All right.
	Welcome back.
	My name is Faith.
	I'm 21.
	I'm from the Central Valley, and I'm a student here at UCSP studying poli sci.
	All right, political science.
	Cool.
	Are you going into your senior year then?
	Yes.
	Got it.
	What about you?
	I'm Jamie.
	I'm 26 and I'm an accounting student at CSUN.
	And yeah.
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	My name is Reina.
	I'm from Sacramento and I'm a student at UCSB.
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	Economics.
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	Economics.
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	Law school.
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	Law school too?
	Yeah.
	There you go.
	What kind of law?
	Do you want to practice?
	Not too sure yet.
	Not sure yet.
	What about you?
	Family law.
	Family law.
	Okay.
	So divorce?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Why that specifically?
	Why that interest?
	Well, not just divorce.
	Yeah, I mean, there's other, certainly there's other components of family law, but.
	I don't know.
	I just enjoy it.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	What about you?
	So that's a hard follow-up.
	Doctors, lawyers.
	I'm Nicolette.
	I'm 24.
	I'm a stripper, and I do OnlyFans, and I'm from Orange County, California.
	The voice sounds a little hoarse.
	No, hoarse.
	A little concert screaming.
	You know, I was going to cancel.
	Are you sick?
	No.
	AIDS?
	No.
	Not AIDS?
	Just partying too hard.
	Oh, you've been talking too much.
	Strep?
	Mono?
	No.
	COVID?
	No.
	Monkeypox?
	What's your excuse, Brian?
	Why do you sound like that?
	How do I, whoa, how do I sound?
	I don't even know.
	How do I sound?
	How do I sound?
	Voice deep.
	Because he's a man, dude.
	That's why he sounds like that.
	Okay.
	Wait, you do OF too, right?
	Yes.
	Or did you stop?
	I still do it.
	I mentioned that, I think.
	You just said stripper.
	And then you cut me off.
	OnlyFans, also.
	I think.
	Wait, did I cut you off?
	Okay, go ahead.
	My name is Laura.
	I'm 30.
	I live in Dallas, Texas, and I'm a wannabe weight loss content creator.
	And my husband and I own a company where we customize sneakers for large companies and professional athletes.
	Wait, what is a wannabe, sorry, a wannabe weight loss?
	Yeah, so basically I lost 100 pounds and then I gained it back.
	So that like took the credit of like being a content creator.
	So now I'm a wannabe content creator because I'm doing it again.
	So.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	My name is Noel.
	I'm 21 and I currently attend UCSB.
	I'm a biology major, hoping to become a neurologist, and I'm originally from the high desert.
	All right, very cool.
	My name is Angelic.
	I'm 23 and I stream on Twitch.
	That's it.
	And where are you from?
	Oh, right now I live in LA, but I travel a lot.
	Where did you grow up, though?
	Florida.
	Florida.
	Okay.
	My name is Carly.
	I'm 25.
	I'm from right here in IV, and I'm a local missionary to the pre-born children in the womb.
	Did you go to school?
	Are you a grad student at UCSB?
	No, actually, I live at the Jesus Burgers house right here that evangelizes to the kids that are partying right here.
	All right, cool, cool.
	Andrew, what about you?
	My name is Andrew Wilson.
	I'm the host of The Crucible.
	It is, to my knowledge, the fastest-growing debate channel on the internet, period.
	I'm a political satirist, a political analyst, and then myself, I do enjoy engaging in debates from time to time.
	So thank you guys all for coming out and having this conversation tonight.
	I'd appreciate it.
	Good to have you, Andrew.
	Good to have you.
	So, really quick before we get into the relationship status, I have to thank the sponsor of today's video.
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	What is your most embarrassing date, Carnal Story?
	We will get to that.
	Thank you for the message there, Kill of Cereal.
	Appreciate it.
	Most, I'll just write most embarrassing story.
	So going around the table, what is everybody's current relationship status?
	So are you single, talking stage, situation ship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule, sex, culturum, whatever it may be?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Go ahead.
	I'm in a relationship right now.
	Okay.
	And it's not my longest, but we're going on strong.
	What's the longest relationship you've been in?
	Over a year.
	Okay.
	How long have you currently been in this relationship?
	A few months.
	A few months.
	And it is your boyfriend, girlfriend?
	My boyfriend.
	Okay.
	Should we say three months?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	How did you guys meet?
	We met at school.
	Here at UCSP.
	Like in the class?
	Yeah, kind of outside of class.
	So not at school.
	Or at school?
	At school.
	On campus?
	Yes.
	How did you guys meet?
	We had a class together fall quarter.
	And we started talking after we saw each other at the gym.
	Who approached who?
	He approached me.
	Alright.
	Okay.
	And what was his pickup line?
	I had met him once before, like before the second time.
	And he kind of just introduced himself.
	Okay.
	No pickup line, just, hey, what's up?
	I'm Tyreek.
	Something like that.
	Okay.
	That's his name?
	Is that his name?
	No.
	Just, okay.
	I'm single.
	I was in a very short relationship in the beginning of this year.
	And my longest is a few months.
	Your longest relationship is how long?
	A few months.
	I think it was nine months.
	I said the last time or something.
	Who was that with?
	You said before the show you dated somebody?
	No, a few months ago.
	I was in a short relationship for two months.
	Yeah, but before the show, who did you say you dated?
	I had one date with Tristan Tate.
	One date with Tristan Tate.
	Yeah, and he cried like a bitch.
	What?
	Yeah, I will tell you all about it.
	No way.
	You did.
	I have screenshots of you.
	I don't believe it.
	How long ago was this?
	June, I think, not so long ago.
	June?
	Yeah, when he was still locked up a little, yeah.
	Very funny.
	I went to Romania all the way.
	Yeah.
	Very funny.
	So like three months ago, four months ago?
	Yeah.
	I went to Romania for it, yeah.
	Press X to doubt?
	You date, wait.
	And even my friends texted him as well.
	So you slid into his DMs, I'm assuming.
	I was speaking to him for like three years already.
	Oh, okay.
	So I thought it was time to go and see what it's about.
	And it was horrible.
	It was.
	Listen, I went to his house and he was talking to me a few days before.
	He's like, let's have sex.
	Hang on.
	We should get the rest of them real quick and then come back to this point because I want to dug into this.
	Sure, sure.
	We'll come back to it.
	We'll come back to the Tristan Tate thing.
	Okay.
	Hey, I'm single and I've been single for like three years.
	Three years.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And those of you who go to school, are any of you in like sorority or anything?
	I'm in a sorority.
	Okay.
	So longest relationship?
	Like around a year.
	One year.
	Okay.
	And when was that?
	Was that the one that ended three years ago?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Was that your freshman year of that?
	It ended like going into my freshman year, yeah.
	So it was like high school?
	Yeah.
	Last year of high school.
	So you've been single pretty much your whole college career?
	You could say that.
	Okay.
	Well, what's the longest period of time you've, I guess, talked or seen somebody?
	It's a little complicated.
	Explain the complicatedness.
	Well, basically, that person I was still seeing, I guess, until last year.
	Wait.
	Like, my ex, we, like, kept, we, like, kept hanging out and things like that until last year, like, 2023.
	Okay, so was it on and off again, kind of?
	Yeah.
	Okay, how many times was it off and on?
	I can't even count.
	It's like, because we never dated officially again after that.
	Did you ever call each other boyfriend or no?
	No, it wasn't like that.
	It was just a weird situation.
	Like, I don't even know what to call it.
	Did he live here?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Are you from here?
	No, we just both went to the same college.
	Okay.
	But, and that ended completely a year ago.
	Yeah.
	Like, you haven't talked or seen each other?
	We've seen each other because we still go to the same school.
	No, not yesterday.
	He graduated.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, you might see each other, but you hung out in the romantic context.
	Yeah.
	Like two months ago?
	Not like a year ago.
	A year ago?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So it was a clean break.
	Yeah.
	A year ago.
	Okay.
	You said it was on and off.
	How many times was it off?
	A few times.
	I don't know exactly how many times, but.
	More than five?
	No, maybe like three.
	Okay.
	More often than not, who would end it?
	Of the five times, who ended it?
	I don't know.
	You don't know.
	You could say him.
	You could say him.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And then who would kind of be the one trying to get things going again?
	Him.
	Yeah.
	So he would end it, miss you.
	Basically.
	Come back.
	Okay.
	Why would he end it?
	Oh, God.
	I'm getting nervous.
	I don't really know, honestly.
	I don't know.
	You don't know?
	He just.
	Maybe he wanted to explore other things.
	Like, I am not too sure.
	Okay.
	He never gave you a reason, or were there arguments?
	We never really talked about it.
	He'd just be like, all right, I'm going to be single for two months.
	And then.
	Well, it's just like awkward.
	I'm not a confrontational person, so yeah.
	I never brought it up, basically.
	Until the last time.
	So how would it?
	So would he call you up or would he do it in person?
	Or would he text you?
	Or suppose you'd text?
	Yeah.
	He'd text you.
	Wait, can we point out?
	Oh, no, no, no, no.
	Okay, so he would text you something along the lines of, nice knowing ya.
	I'm gonna date other women.
	It's just really complicated because in between those breaks, we would still see each other.
	So it's like we talked in person.
	Because it's not like we ever ended on bad terms.
	Like we would still talk when we saw each other.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	And then have you seen any other people in the past three years?
	Since last year, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What's the longest period of time that you've like not talked or anything like that though?
	What do you mean?
	Not like a talking situation or anything?
	Like friends with benefits.
	Yeah.
	Hookup type thing.
	Just like hookup, yeah.
	Okay.
	So what would the duration of that be?
	Like a one-time one time?
	One time.
	All right.
	And a couple of those.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	So I've been single for six years, and then I had like a three-year relationship before then, but it wasn't really serious because we were young.
	Okay.
	And that's your longest relationship?
	Three years.
	And is that the one that ended six years ago?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And when you say you've been single for six years, that means what?
	So I haven't been talking to men, or I've been on a few dates, but I'm also celibate.
	So, yeah.
	How long have you been celibate for?
	Six years.
	Six years.
	Okay.
	Celibate?
	Six years.
	And are you religious or?
	I am.
	Okay.
	Christian?
	Yes.
	Denomination?
	Celibate?
	I wouldn't say any denomination of Christian.
	Like.
	Okay.
	Sure.
	What about you?
	I've been single for like nine months.
	My longest relationship was two years.
	Did that start in high school?
	Yeah.
	Did you do long distance?
	Yeah, for one year we did.
	Okay, that was the final year, I guess.
	No, that was like the first year, I think.
	Yeah.
	Wait, so you guys met in high school?
	Yeah.
	Wait, hold on, Treman.
	Are you a junior in?
	Yeah, I was a junior in high school.
	No, I mean, are you going to be a junior in college?
	Or are you going into second year?
	This is my second year.
	Okay.
	So you started dating in your junior high school?
	Yeah.
	Then, was he one year older than you?
	Oh, so he graduated, he went off to college.
	Okay, I see.
	All right.
	Who ended that relationship?
	He did.
	He did?
	Okay.
	You've been single for nine months?
	Anything in that nine-month period?
	Short term, nothing short-term?
	No.
	No summer fling?
	No.
	Nothing?
	No.
	No.
	Summer fling?
	Okay.
	So you've been celibate for nine months?
	Yep.
	All right, you guys have something and you're getting there.
	Well, you give it another five years.
	All right.
	So have you been on dating apps at all?
	No.
	No dating.
	Have you been on a date?
	Just a date in the past?
	No?
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Are you looking right now or are you just kind of.?
	No, I'm just like focusing on school.
	Focus on what are you studying again?
	Economics.
	Economics.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Nicolette?
	I've been single for two years and my longest relationship was seven years.
	How long have you been celibate for, Nicolette?
	Maybe like a week.
	All right.
	You're part of the club.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I've been married for seven years.
	Okay.
	That's your longest relationship?
	Yes.
	How long have you guys been together?
	For 10 years.
	Ten years total.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	We dated two years and then engaged one and then married for seven.
	Gotcha.
	All right.
	So you've been dating, you're 30, you've been dating from like 20 to 30, basically.
	Or together since 20 to 30.
	Yeah, basically we were, we started like talking in 2013.
	Okay.
	He likes, so yeah, 2013.
	Any breaks or no, no.
	No breaks in the military.
	I mean, I've, I mean, a few times I'm like, I'm going to divorce you, but it's never happened.
	But I also am Colombian and crazy, so he kind of just like ignores me.
	He ignores you?
	Yeah, because he knows that I'm crazy.
	So it's okay.
	But I only have said that a few times.
	I gotta go.
	Wait, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	I've only said that like, well, maybe like two times in the beginning, but that's also because like only in the beginning.
	Yeah, only in the beginning.
	When the last time you threatened to divorce your husband, it was probably like whenever a week ago.
	Probably.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	I'm always.
	Are there any other Latinas at the table?
	Is it Angelic?
	You're Latina?
	You're Nicolette's Latina?
	I don't know how I feel about it.
	And Andrew, you probably have thoughts on this.
	This whole like, well, I'm Latina, so I'm just crazy.
	I feel like that's, first off, there's plenty of Latina women that aren't crazy.
	Well, all women are crazy.
	We're just crazier.
	And there's a difference between white women crazy, which in my opinion is way crazier than Latin American.
	Yes.
	Where's Asian woman crazy?
	Do we have some Asian women?
	Oh, well.
	They'll hit you.
	Those are not literally Kelly.
	Not Wasian?
	They'll hit you.
	I'm half Asian, half Mexican.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay, so she's like crazy crazy.
	My wife's crazy.
	Mays?
	You're Mason?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Mayn.
	Never heard of it.
	Wait, it's okay.
	Well, explain the white girl.
	Okay, so it's white girl crazy.
	Just rank it.
	Okay, white girl crazy.
	At the top.
	Latina crazy.
	Asian crazy is crazy, but they know how to contain it.
	They'll wait until you're Republican.
	Like what kind of Asian?
	I mean, I'm probably.
	Like, where's Vietnamese, Filipino?
	You know, I'm not sure.
	Korean's at the bottom.
	I love Koreans.
	They're the best.
	Japanese women probably are at the top.
	At the top?
	Yeah, I do.
	Japanese women.
	And then white?
	Yeah, we do fight.
	It's fair.
	We do.
	Wait, so okay, where do you place like indigenous or aboriginal?
	Define.
	Like Australia.
	Oh, I wouldn't know.
	Andrew don't listen to this part.
	I would have known.
	That falls under the category of like white.
	What about like Native American?
	Where did they fall?
	No, they're very like respectful men.
	What did you say?
	Native American.
	Oh, okay.
	So they're at the bottom of the.
	Yeah, they're the bottom.
	Yeah.
	White girl crazy.
	Yeah.
	That's why they call it white girl Wayson.
	Did you say Native American women are at the bottom of the crazy matrix?
	Yes.
	Where the hell did you come up with that?
	Just from my experience, so obviously he's come across some crazy Native Americans.
	Please share.
	First of all, Hispanics are mestizos, which means they're half Native American, half European.
	So what the hell are you talking about?
	Lawyer.
	So where do you think they get the crazy half?
	What is the crazy half here?
	What are you talking about?
	Yeah, definitely Native Americans.
	If Hispanics are mestizo, meaning half Native and then half European, what is the crazy half then?
	If you think that European women are not crazy, isn't European white?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	So then what's your point?
	I'm confused.
	What he's saying is that native is basically Hispanic, but Hispanic is half Native and half European, but European is white.
	So the crazy.
	So what was the crazy?
	So what's the crazy half?
	What's the differential?
	You know what?
	I didn't go to school for it.
	All I can say is that the Latinas are crazy.
	As far as I know, he's married.
	What is your wife's background?
	Mine?
	She's Dutch and Irish.
	Ooh, so she's fucking crazy to be with you.
	What do you mean?
	She's not being with me.
	I'm English and Irish.
	What the hell are you talking about?
	I'm Dutch to watch it.
	I'm just saying she must be crazy to put up with you.
	Oh, boy.
	Hey, listen.
	Why would that make her crazy?
	And why is he crazy?
	Wait, Andrew, are we going to get a little Rachel cameo?
	You think?
	You're going to get a little Rachel came.
	I guess you can talk to her later if you want to tell her how crazy she is for putting up with me.
	We might need a Rachel cameo.
	But I don't know.
	Anyways, to move things on, I just feel like it's a bit of a cop-out.
	Like, well, I'm Latina, so I guess you just got to deal with my bullshit.
	I'm sorry.
	I'll take his voice.
	I'm just crazy.
	Wait, so how are you crazy?
	Yeah.
	Like, throwing out, like, I'm going to divorce you, kind of crazy.
	But I am not violent, but I do go crazy and then I start crying really fast.
	So it's like all the emotions that I want.
	That what?
	So you manipulate the shit.
	I did.
	Well, I don't.
	You just talk.
	You're not.
	He's the only person I take no from, but yeah, I try to manipulate him so that I can get myself.
	So you're toxic.
	You just talk.
	You don't do it.
	No, I don't do it.
	Isn't that the whole point of this conversation?
	Admitting that she's crazy.
	We're all crazy.
	Talk for yourself.
	Yeah, literally, what?
	Yeah, but I am.
	Like, I never actually obviously go through with a divorce.
	There's obviously a deeper meaning, but I do like throw things around because I want him to feel pure.
	Is your mind in therapy or is he just walking around freely?
	Yeah, thank you, Josh.
	Is he in therapy?
	For you.
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	I don't think so.
	You should.
	In any case, moving things on.
	What about you?
	I have never been in a relationship.
	All right.
	So single, I'm assuming.
	Yes.
	All right.
	What's the longest period of time?
	Have you been on a date?
	Let's start there.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	What's the longest period of time you've dated a guy?
	And I use the term dated pretty loosely.
	Dated?
	Yeah.
	Three months.
	Three months.
	Okay, so this was like a situation ship?
	Yes.
	You did not consider him your boyfriend, though?
	No, I didn't.
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Three months is the longest.
	You.
	Has a guy asked you to be in a relationship and you turn them down?
	I don't let it get that far.
	Sorry, what's that?
	I don't let it get that far.
	You don't let it get that far.
	Why is that?
	My excuse is working on myself and just pursuing my career so I don't have time.
	Yeah.
	Wait, your excuses.
	So what's the underlying reason?
	I'm still trying to figure that out.
	Oh.
	I just, when it happens, where you're.
	What is that term?
	Avoidant personality terms?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I'm aware.
	I'm aware of it.
	Okay.
	I just don't know how to fix it just yet.
	And have you had any shorter-term dating experiences like friends with benefits or casual hookup type?
	I've been on a few dates, not hookup or anything like that.
	I've been out for coffee.
	We've been on walks with different people.
	Yeah.
	Wait, are you virgin?
	I was about to ask that.
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	The three months situationship, yeah.
	All right.
	What about you?
	My longest relationship was a year, but I've been single for two and a half years.
	All right.
	One year.
	And you recently moved to Los Angeles.
	How's the dating out there in LA?
	I'm not dating anyone here.
	Well, you're not dating anybody, but I mean.
	I'm not interested in anyone here.
	Here?
	Are you?
	Oh, wait.
	I think I'm trying to recall.
	Isn't there like a guy that you have your eye on that lives?
	Yeah, he rejected me.
	Where's he live again?
	Australia.
	Australia?
	Okay.
	He rejected you since you were last on the show?
	I mean, kind of from the start.
	Well, he's always been rejecting you.
	Are you still holding out for...
	I mean, we're not talking anymore.
	Okay.
	Like, no contact?
	No.
	Did.
	Were you a crazy Latina?
	No.
	He just called me.
	He said, like, you know, I don't feel a romantic spark with you, so I think we should part ways.
	And then I said, okay, I wish you the best.
	And that was it.
	So have you done any dating in Los Angeles?
	No.
	Like going on a date?
	No.
	All right.
	What about you?
	My longest relationship was seven years.
	And I was single for two years.
	And now I just started seeing a new guy recently.
	All right.
	How long have you guys been together?
	Officially, like, we just went on one date and then he asked me to meet his parents.
	So I met his parents the next day.
	So we're not like official, official yet, just yet.
	All right.
	Longest relationship, seven years.
	You've been single for two years, you said?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So you did the seven-year relationship that was from.
	I was 15 to 22.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Got it.
	I think that's pretty much it.
	Andrew, you wanted to dive into the Tristan Tate?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I wanted to hear and be regaled with the Tristan Tate saga that you were diving into without any distractions of needing to move the convo forward too quickly.
	I've been speaking to him for three years.
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	Man, that's wild.
	I do not understand anything.
	Thank you, Glocktavius.
	All right, go ahead.
	Either way, we've been speaking for three years, and he was always very nice, very respectful.
	We had very long conversations, back and forth, like friends.
	So I was like, you know what?
	I'm going to go to Romania.
	He offered to pay for everything.
	I refused because I was like, you know what?
	I want to feel safe.
	I want to pay for my own hotel.
	I do not know this guy.
	Just that was the reason.
	So he hit me up there every day, like, you know what?
	When I'm going to see you, I want to have anal sex with you.
	And I'm like, bro.
	So I was like, no, I'm not going to do that.
	First of all, never done that.
	I said, take a bitch to dinner first.
	I have all the screenshots for this, either way.
	So, and then he was, yeah, I will take you out to dinner.
	And I was like, yeah, that's better.
	That's nice.
	And then a few days later, he was like, come over to my house.
	I will call you an Uber.
	And I was like, bro, when is the Uber arriving?
	Because I was in this hotel.
	He said, 30 minutes.
	I was like laying in bed.
	It was evening.
	I was like, fuck, I have 30 minutes to get ready.
	So I did.
	I ran downstairs, got into the Uber.
	I sent the location to my friends, obviously.
	But it was not at all what I was expecting.
	I was expecting this gentleman in a suit, like he always is.
	He was like in a sweatpants, hair is messy, everything was total messy.
	He looked like a total uncared for person.
	But I walked in and the first thing he greeted me, and then he turned around.
	Well, it's Cars.
	He was like, this is the world famous Lana, but you already know that, right?
	And then he showed all the scars.
	I was like, I'm not interested in this.
	I didn't look you up.
	He said, why not?
	He got angry.
	So I was like, because I'm here for you.
	Then we went to this office you always see in his podcasts and everything.
	But it was so confusing to me because it was like this big door with locks and everything, big chairs.
	If you sit on those chairs, you cannot see that somebody is sitting.
	You have to remember that for later on.
	So we sat down and he just started talking about how much money you're going to give his assistant for all her work because he's in Dubai right now and everything.
	And I was like, alright, where's this conversation going?
	Because I'm not interested in all the money and everything.
	I'm just like, hey, how are you?
	Nice to meet you.
	And then he was like, do you want something to drink?
	I said, yeah, that would be nice.
	And he called his assistant.
	So I was like, why do you not get it yourself?
	He said, why shouldn't I?
	I said, because this is arrogant.
	Then he got frustrated a little bit more.
	And he just kept on talking about his money and everything.
	So I called him a little bit out.
	I said, you walk funny.
	You have a limp when you walk.
	You talk stupid.
	Are we going to have a normal conversation or not?
	And then he was like, sure, a little bit.
	And there wasn't a light ball at this room.
	It was a different color.
	Everybody, all the lights were white and that color was brown.
	Because I was so bored with his conversation about money.
	I was like, hey, that light ball is stupid.
	He got off the chair.
	He ran down the room.
	He was like, oh, I'm going to fix it.
	Like, so insecure, not what I expected at all.
	I've been speaking to him for three years.
	Then he sat down and then out of nowhere, he was like, Andrew is awake, Andrew is awake.
	Panicking.
	And I was like, yeah, so what's the deal?
	Then the door knocked.
	He said, we have to go.
	We have to go.
	Andrew is awake.
	Then he said, and Andrew just walked in with his laptop, sat down next to me, and he looked like, hi.
	Didn't expect me at all, gave me a hand.
	Very friendly, very friendly.
	I have to give him that.
	And then Tristan's like, we have to go, but have to go.
	He was so scared because Andrew was like, we have to work, get out.
	Very scared.
	So I was like, hey, is Andrew running this whole show?
	And he was like, yeah.
	But now you have to go.
	So we went outside and he said, thank you for your time.
	Can you please answer all your messages?
	Because I'm a slow texter.
	And then I was in the Uber the way out.
	And then he keeps on texting me.
	And I was like, you know what?
	It's not going to work.
	It's not the vibe.
	And he agreed.
	And then he started to be a little bit ugly at WhatsApp.
	And I said, you need to calm down.
	You look like a fish.
	And yeah, that was the little story of me and Tristan Tate.
	I did text him after that.
	And he tried to be ugly a little bit.
	And then my friends texted him, like, shut up because we will put you in the truck.
	And then he got a little bit scared.
	And he told me, like, your friends are scary.
	And the next day, my friends told him that, like, calm down because we will put you in the trunk.
	And the next day, he was in the trunk of the police wagon because they got arrested again.
	So that's funny.
	So yeah, they were very respectful, very.
	But it was so weird.
	He's so scared of his brother a little bit.
	I will look it up.
	I think it's April, May, June, the time.
	So I have to look it on my Instagram.
	You can see the picture.
	Wait, you said the day after he got arrested again?
	No, like last week he got arrested.
	My friends texted him last week, like, be nice because we will put you in the trunk.
	And the next day he was in the trunk of the police car.
	That was funny.
	So he was very nice, respectful.
	His brother came in and he got so scared.
	For some reason, you have to get out.
	And he's awake.
	He's awake.
	And I was like, does your brother run the whole show?
	And he's like, yeah.
	Now you have to get out.
	So he was very sweet, very respectful.
	But I'm just wondering if he's not more the social media figure.
	I think his brother, Andrew, is the total brains.
	He walked in.
	He had that very manly era, very sexy, manly.
	You felt it right away.
	And Tristan was just there like, like that puppet is sitting.
	I don't know.
	I think Andrew is the real brain, for sure.
	I don't know, I was so confused myself because we were speaking for three years.
	And I asked him, why do you speak for me for three years?
	It's not like a hookup thing and everything.
	How often would you would you guys speak on the phone?
	Also, yeah.
	How often would you guys text each other?
	Almost weekly for three years.
	And he was like, oh yeah, that time I was more on the phone because now I cannot do that anymore because the police is searching my phone and stuff like that.
	And I'm like, sure.
	For the people who don't believe me, I've ever seen.
	I believe her.
	I think that's the most believable story I've ever heard on here, actually.
	Again, it's not like he was disrespectful.
	We just got when Andrew worked and he was like, whoa, and that was so surprising.
	And he looked like shit when I arrived.
	And I don't know.
	So the story is you met up with him and you were slightly underwhelmed and that's the excuse.
	No, I was just not expecting this kind of persona, like a little scared persona or something.
	It was so weird.
	Just talking about money, how much money you're going to give his assistant, his scars, very arrogant, like this is a famous lane.
	You already knew that, right?
	And I was like, no, I do not watch your shit.
	But I mean, don't you go in kind of expecting that they're going to talk about money?
	No, because three years is a long time, right?
	I told him that too.
	On WhatsApp, I told him, like, you know what, three years is a long time.
	Obviously, you want to show your house a little bit.
	That's a normal thing.
	Like, welcome to my house.
	I understand that.
	That's fine.
	Sure.
	But when you sit down, you're going to bash about the money you're giving your assistant.
	I do not know your assistant.
	I do not know what the police thinks is going on.
	Why do you want to talk that to me?
	And I was like, you know, can we not have a normal drink?
	Ask me what my favorite colour is or something.
	It'd be nice.
	So I have a question.
	Did he tell you he wanted to anal with you before or after you got to remain in?
	No, no.
	Like when I arrived.
	Okay.
	Wait, Nicola, can you scoot your mic that way a little bit?
	When I arrived?
	That way, yeah.
	And let's be honest, that man is sexy as fuck.
	You cannot deny it.
	Tristan.
	Yeah, he's tall.
	He looks like shit when I arrive.
	But he's not ugly.
	I will never say that.
	He's tall.
	He has his biceps bigger than my fucking head.
	He's tall.
	He's muscular.
	For sure.
	But I just didn't expect such a thing.
	So you got to make up your mind, right?
	He's like, he's a scared, timid coward one second.
	I will never go see him again.
	And then the next second, he's a buff stud chad.
	Like, which is it here?
	Of course he has muscles.
	You cannot deny it.
	It has nothing to do with his personality.
	If somebody has muscles, muscles.
	Well, what did you expect, the personification of a man who's under massive investigation and is meeting up with somebody he's been talking to for three years who's a friend of his?
	Of course he's probably going to be nervous and probably have all sorts of things which are going on, right?
	I did, and I had that in mind.
	But I think when you sit down in a normal conversation in a locked-up room, no mobile phones off, everything, it would be nice to have a normal conversation.
	You do not really know me, right?
	So why would it make sense to tell me how much money you have?
	That's really weird though, right?
	That's self-contradictory.
	So what do you mean he doesn't really talk him for three years, I thought.
	He doesn't really know you.
	No, not in that way.
	If you never meet him, what way?
	What way?
	I feel like if I've been talking with somebody for three years, that I would get to know them pretty well, right?
	Yeah, it's not like a very deep conversation we had.
	Obviously, every week, something like, hey, what you doing?
	he went to this and that's just like friendly conversation like you were saying but I was not expecting I thought you were talking to him on the phone Also, yeah, just about his way, his life, and often, but not seriously, not about his money.
	Why would he do that?
	That's private, right?
	Yeah, no, no, no.
	I didn't expect that.
	Before you kind of pivot to the next thing, let's see if we can get this figured out.
	When you say I was talking to this guy weekly, does that mean you were like, oh, hey, what's up, Tristan?
	How are you?
	And he went, good, how are you?
	And you said, good.
	And like, that was the extent of most of your conversations.
	Is that what you mean?
	Or did you have in-depth conversations?
	going what he was doing with the girls stuff like that just like i do not know if i can say everything But it's like more than just, hey, how are you in a fitness conversation?
	We did not have sexual conversations at all, but more about life, like when he was younger, puberty, everything, stuff like that.
	Like a normal human being.
	So that's why I was expecting this like what you were saying, like a little bit more friends vibe.
	And then I arrived, he only talked about money and it's scarce.
	And I was like, confusing.
	Well, I don't know why that's confusing, right?
	So he's showing you his life, right?
	Yeah, but if you never talk to somebody about your finances, why would you, when you meet somebody in person for the first time, sit down with this person and be like, I'm going to tell you how much I pay my assistant when I see her again?
	Like, that's bro.
	Why would that?
	I don't understand why that's problematic.
	That's him talking about it.
	I didn't say it was problematic.
	I just personally found it a little weird.
	Hang on, isn't that first date territory to talk about work?
	You can't tell me what kind of work you do, but I'm not interested in you throwing money around, no?
	Yeah, but I didn't actually hear any part in the story where he threw money around.
	Money around, like what he's giving all the people.
	Yeah, he's talking about his job and his work, right?
	But it wasn't always talking about, it was not talking about his money.
	It was like, she's in Dubai hiding for the government.
	I'm going to pay her this amount.
	And just like, why do you want to tell me all this?
	I just was not there for that.
	I just wanted to be friends like we were on WhatsApp, like normal, nice, good vibes.
	Well, what was the nature of your life?
	So wait, so this guy who is, I would say, unfairly often targeted because of his brother, right?
	Has a friend who he's been talking to for three years who finally comes into town.
	He gets a chance to meet her.
	He's talking to her.
	And he has somebody he feels like he can confide in.
	So he starts confiding in you, and you're punishing him for that?
	I do not say it's confiding into.
	Let's be honest.
	A man like that.
	He told me that that's 500 women over a week or something.
	So it's not that I'm a very good friend.
	I will never see me as a very good friend.
	I never would tell me that or something.
	Think if you have your friends.
	So did you just fly out there for a booty call?
	No.
	Well, then what the hell were you out there for?
	Meeting him.
	But I'm not sure if I'm not sure if I can do it.
	If I was there for a booty call, I would say yeah.
	You're not friends, right?
	You don't consider him to be a friend.
	He doesn't think he considers you to be a close friend.
	He talked about sex the second you touched down.
	Like, what the hell do you out there for?
	Be honest.
	What are you supporting?
	In a person, I wanted to see the person behind all the social media.
	And I told him that if I was there for a booty call, I would say yes.
	Please fuck me.
	No, I did not.
	What?
	Yeah, so then your intention, did he pay to fly you out?
	No.
	I paid for everything myself.
	No.
	Well, I mean, that was a good decision.
	If he knew that you were going to take it on a roadshow and slander him.
	And I told him that just for meeting up with you one time.
	No, I just told him that I want to meet you for you, for like your character behind everything else, because on WhatsApp we spoke very respectfully.
	And that's why I ignored him and he said.
	Let's say that all of this, that I'm just going to take you at face value and all this did happen, right?
	What is the actual point, since the guy didn't actually do anything bad to you, of taking this story on the road and slandering his name?
	What is the point of that?
	Is it really slandering?
	It's just talking about a date.
	It's not very bad.
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	Pop champagne.
	Pop that bottle, Maddie.
	Well, I think the point is it's very entertaining.
	An entertaining story, and it's her story.
	And she shared it with us.
	You asked about an entertaining story.
	Sorry, you can chime in.
	So let us finish our conversation here.
	So, how is it?
	How is it not slander?
	How is it not slander to run around and basically say, okay, this is all a persona.
	It's all social media persona.
	He's basically a coward in reality.
	He's very timid.
	He's kind of has to be in obeyance to his brother.
	It sounds like total slander.
	No, I didn't say that.
	In the entirety of the story, you really never said a nice thing about the guy.
	Not a single nice thing.
	I didn't say and slandered him.
	I said I felt like he was scared.
	I didn't say he is scared.
	I didn't say he was a coward.
	I said, I feel.
	It just seems like a non-story.
	Like, nothing happened.
	I was entertained, and she did say something nice.
	She said he was hot and had big muscles.
	No, I'm just saying, like.
	After the story was.
	You asked about an entertaining story.
	I'm giving you a little bit entertaining.
	That's all I'm doing.
	I just tell you that I met him.
	That's all.
	Well, the guy, so this guy is a really high-profile guy.
	He's looked at by tens of thousands of people.
	You know, he's looked at, and he's under scrutiny from tens of thousands of people.
	What would actually be the point of even regurgitating such a story?
	Why not?
	Except to slander this guy's image.
	Like, what would even be the point, except to slander and hurt his image?
	Why, but why do you tell this?
	Because he only say because he's famous.
	If he was not famous, like a nobody, you will all be fucking entertained right now.
	Yeah, so what?
	What does that have to do with my line of inquiry?
	No, but why are you so much on him?
	He's so much, he's so famous.
	Why does that even matter?
	Because if anybody here tells you, because you weren't out there to meet him because of any other reason.
	I can meet every other man that I want and fly out.
	It would be the same story.
	He's not out there because you wanted him.
	Now the story changes?
	No, you're just making a point.
	Like, he's famous.
	You cannot do this.
	But if he was not famous, he will be like a fake man.
	Okay, yeah.
	You wouldn't be out there to meet him if he wasn't famous, right?
	You probably would, because he is not ugly.
	It's the same thing.
	You're just making a point because he is famous.
	That's your point.
	If he was not famous, if I just would tell you a dating story, not him, the same story, but a different man that's not famous.
	Are you okay?
	That's not famous.
	Well, it didn't.
	But your dating story.
	You will not react this way if he was not famous.
	By the way, that dating story would actually, without the context of it being Tristan, be totally uninteresting, and nobody would give a shit about it.
	The only reason that it's even interesting is because you included Tristan's name.
	And that's why you asked an interesting date story, so that's the only thing I have.
	So I gave you a little bit of entertainment.
	It doesn't sound like, specifically, it sounds like you're just going on a slander roach.
	Have you told this story multiple times before?
	No, it's the first.
	But it's the really fast.
	Yes, you cannot find it anywhere.
	No, it's the first time.
	I think he's jealous because he wants to do ano Tristan.
	Damn it, Madison.
	Sorry, I got it all over my computer and my microphone.
	That's not the first time that's happened, has it?
	All right, go ahead.
	Sorry, the champagne.
	God damn, this is fucking giant fucking champagne bottle.
	Do it again.
	Sorry.
	I'm very sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	It's okay.
	You need to work on your hand jobs a little bit more.
	Go ahead, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Bro, you could keep going.
	I was out of the conversation.
	You were taking all over.
	Oh, yeah, just spread it more on the table.
	She said right in the center.
	No, that's not.
	I'm where we ended.
	I'm so confused.
	Are you guys done talking about Tristan?
	I think so.
	He asked me if it was the first time telling the story.
	Yes, it is the first time.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	And Brian, you should work on your hand jobs a little bit more because it didn't go well.
	Wow, that was a good one.
	It is.
	Congrats.
	I'm never buying.
	I am never buying.
	You know, it's interesting, none of the women offered to help me clean up the mess.
	Just letting you know.
	No.
	Just pointing out.
	You spread it.
	You should lick it up.
	Just pointing that out.
	I thought men were supposed to be like the providers, the take-carevers.
	We can't really move.
	Can we get cups?
	Do we have cups for some.
	Yeah.
	Is that it?
	Is that the story?
	I think so, if you want anything to add, huh?
	Who wants some champagne?
	Sure.
	21?
	21.
	21.
	You want some?
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Maddie, I'll leave it in charge for pouring.
	I think.
	Wait.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	Okay.
	So, Andrew, you need to get liquored up too.
	Guys, sorry about the mix up there.
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	My sprinkler goes like this.
	That's what happened to my...
	This whole setup.
	It comes back like this.
	That's good.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Glocktavius.
	I really appreciate it, man.
	And Cajun SRT, thank you for just heads up.
	I don't.
	Yeah, well, you know, whatever.
	Okay, that's cool.
	I'll get that.
	Let's won't we pull up Kill of Cereals thing then?
	He asked, most embarrassing date story.
	Date story, hookup story, whatever story.
	Did you want some for that's just a couple?
	All right.
	Most embarrassing date story.
	Can I be skipped?
	I need to think about it.
	What about you?
	I think I already told it the last time he came in my hair and walked down to my parents and he didn't solve me.
	And then I saw it in a mirror in the hallway.
	It was very embarrassing.
	Very nice.
	Yeah.
	So then the Tristan story wasn't the only embarrassing dating story you have.
	Oh, darling, no.
	We can make it a third time if you want to go on a date with me.
	Wait, I do have a question really quick on the Tristan things.
	I'm sorry, did you just immediately pivot to you must want to fuck me?
	Did you just pick it up?
	You must want to fuck me.
	No.
	Next time you can go on a pivot of You Must Want to Fuck Me.
	At least, at least do the kind thing, right?
	But where did I say I wanted to fuck you?
	I never said that.
	I never said I wanted to fuck you.
	I think you're hot, obviously.
	I just want to ask you.
	Yeah, obviously.
	But yeah, back to where we were before, so rudely interrupted by the Dutch Jessica Rabbit.
	Can you please tell me if earlier you stated the reason you talked about the Tristan Haggard story is because that was the only funny dating story you had.
	And then instantly we get to another dating story and suddenly you have another one, right?
	Because I told that other one the last time.
	So I thought you wanted the new one.
	Possibly.
	That was the only reason.
	I've been here before.
	You always explain the other one.
	That's why I told him I'm always said it.
	I thought you wanted the new one.
	So this is the new one.
	I thought you only had one.
	No, this is the new one.
	Right, it's a new one.
	So you didn't just have one.
	You had, you have multiple, right?
	That's the point.
	No, I think this is it.
	Your story shifts more than the Saharan sands, is all I'm going to point out here, right?
	The Sahara Sam.
	Yeah.
	I think you're a little bit Tristan Tate fan, and I think you're a little bit objective at the point.
	I'm a little bit objective?
	Yeah.
	You mean non-objective?
	That's what you must mean, right?
	Because if I'm objective, then that means that I'm being impartial and very much focused on the topic at hand.
	You mean I'm not being objective, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, okay.
	Yo, smoking pancakes, thank you for the gifted 50 memberships.
	For those of you who have, do you want champagne?
	I got some.
	Okay, perfect.
	We'll do a cheers, too.
	Let's think of something funny.
	Oh, isn't it?
	Do you have it?
	No, this is first.
	Okay.
	Here, just, we'll get it to you.
	We'll just do the cheers now to move things along.
	Cheers to Tristan Tate.
	Salu.
	An anal.
	Okay.
	That's why I stick to anal sex.
	So wait, he brought that up before you went to meet him?
	Yeah.
	A few days before.
	He didn't want to get you pregnant.
	I think that was yours.
	No, smart man.
	Yeah, very responsible.
	Very, very mindful.
	Very demure.
	So how did he bring it up?
	Just on WhatsApp.
	He said, BTW.
	You can also, he was like, no, you can also wait in my bed at night and we can have anal sex or schedule like that.
	And I was like, what the fuck is that?
	Is that Loki giving gay?
	Can I say that?
	Is it gay to do anal?
	No, it's not.
	I don't know.
	Do you think it's.
	Do you never do analytics?
	No.
	But if a guy's like, if before he fucks you in the pussy, he's like, anal, like, that's kind of fucking gay.
	But what is wrong with Matilda?
	Well, that means he has like a fucking fetish for anal.
	He hasn't even fucked you in the pussy.
	Yeah, but if you have a long relationship and he's like, I want to fuck you anal tonight, just try it out something new.
	So is it a relationship?
	No, but would you tell your boyfriend like now you're gay?
	Because he wants to fuck you anal.
	Well, if it's my boyfriend, no, because we fucked probably plenty of times vaginally.
	And what is wrong with auto men just want anal sex?
	He's not gay.
	If a guy like I never had sex with and the first time meeting is like anal, like, hey, he's probably like gay.
	But you just a few seconds before you'd be like, hey, that's a smart man.
	You're going to not get it.
	It was a joice.
	It was a joke.
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	All right.
	Well, there it is.
	Embarrassing date story.
	I unfortunately don't have one.
	Honestly, I can't remember.
	I don't know.
	Wait, is this a tattoo?
	This dot?
	Yes.
	Oh, okay.
	Did you kill somebody or something?
	No, I got it when I was like 15.
	Oh.
	What's it represent?
	Nothing at all.
	I have dots on my hands.
	Dot right here.
	None of the dots mean anything?
	No, I got all my tattoos when I was really young and also before I was.
	What did they mean to you when you were honestly probably just thought it was cool?
	I was a dumb teenager.
	Why not like a star or something?
	Why a dot?
	I don't know.
	Like, what about a different shape?
	That would be cool.
	Like a cube or a box or something.
	No reason.
	No reason?
	Yeah, I've actually like gotten laser on my hands, laser on this one as well.
	I want to get them all removed, actually.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	All right.
	Interesting date story.
	Embarrassing date story, rather.
	I think it was like one of our first dates.
	He called me my best friend at the time's name.
	It was pretty embarrassing.
	First date?
	No, it was probably like our first date, maybe?
	And you guys were like, it was while you were just kicking it or was it during some time?
	No, it was literally like while we were kissing.
	Oh, while it was very embarrassing.
	And so your name is what again?
	Reina.
	Reyna.
	And he was like, oh, Gertrude.
	Something like that.
	Something like that.
	Damn.
	That's brutal.
	But it was on accident.
	Like, I didn't know what you were doing.
	Did you continue seeing him?
	Yeah, we did it for two years.
	Oh, oh.
	Wait, that's the your longest relationship?
	Yeah.
	Damn.
	So, question for the whole panel on that.
	Third date, still kind of new, but he, and it was his ex or just.
	No, it was my best friend at the time.
	But like, we were all like kind of close.
	We were still best friends in the relationship.
	We were at the time, yeah.
	So would that be a deal breaker?
	Like, you're making out or doing more, and he's like, ah, Matilda.
	100%.
	And your name is not Matilda.
	Would it be done?
	Starting with you?
	Yes, it would be done.
	It would be over.
	Okay.
	No.
	Not over.
	You give him a okay.
	100%.
	Because if mistakes are like that are happening that early on and hanging out, I wouldn't want to risk it.
	Like furthering your relationship.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Yes, because he's thinking about her while kissing you.
	Nope.
	Probably should have left.
	Hey, well, let's hear the rest.
	It wouldn't be over, but I'd handle the situation accordingly to that.
	Oh, wow.
	You'd stab him?
	Stab him.
	No, I would treat him like I'd call him his best friend's name for probably like ever.
	Okay, all right.
	Yeah, there would be a deal breaker.
	It'd be a deal breaker.
	What about you?
	Deal breaker?
	It'd be a deal breaker.
	Yeah.
	Not a deal breaker.
	I'd be like concerned.
	I'd be concerned.
	What about you?
	Yeah, I'd be a deal breaker for sure.
	Now, what if he said, let's up the ante here?
	His mom's name.
	Does that change anything?
	Or your mom's name.
	Does that change anything?
	So much worse.
	It makes it way worse.
	Way creepier.
	I wouldn't make out with someone that knew my mom's name like on a third date.
	That's kind of creepy.
	How did he figure it out?
	Yeah.
	I don't know, me from social media.
	Family.
	Just looking at facebooking you.
	Well, let's just say that.
	Do you not look at Facebook when you're dating somebody?
	I met your boyfriend's parents the day after your first date.
	So that is a good point, Nicolette.
	You're very observant.
	Thank you.
	You got a good memory, elephant.
	Like an elephant.
	No, that's what they say.
	They got a good memory.
	You two.
	Not the only way she's like.
	Like a hippo.
	Me and Nicolette have some things in common.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Where were we?
	So Deal Breaker, if it was the.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Your current boyfriend.
	If he was like, it's Anissa, right?
	Yeah.
	How do you say it exactly?
	Anissa.
	Anissa.
	If instead of Anissa, he said your mom's name.
	Dealbreaker?
	For sure.
	His mom's name?
	Yeah, that's really weird.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Just check it.
	All right.
	Where were we?
	Let's get into some of the pre-show notes here.
	Actually, yes, we'll do that.
	We'll do that right now.
	We were at awkward dating stories.
	Oh, did we not get it?
	Okay.
	Did we not get around the table by?
	My like an elephant.
	Go ahead.
	What's yours?
	Wait, date or like sex story?
	Let's do date, and if he can't think of a date.
	Well, I told you that my awkward.
	Let's do date.
	Think of an awkward, embarrassing date story.
	Well, isn't it embarrassing?
	Like the last date I went on, it was his birthday.
	And two waitresses, not just one, two separate waitresses, came up to us.
	Like, oh, it's a celebration.
	It was his birthday.
	He brought me beautiful bouquet of flowers.
	Both witches, oh, it's his birthday, and he brought you flowers.
	So it's like, like, kind of weird.
	That's like, not that embarrassing.
	Wait, it was his birthday.
	And, yeah.
	He's just a nice guy.
	Got you flowers?
	Yeah.
	Gentleman.
	I'm going to keep him around.
	Was it the first date?
	Yeah.
	Well, that's a big birthday.
	Like, first date and everything.
	Yeah, really nice guy.
	Shout out.
	All right.
	Most embarrassing date story.
	My parents never let me date, so I didn't have like a fun, like embarrassing date.
	So they like filtered out a lot of like guys that would make me have an embarrassing date, I think.
	So kind of boring on this side.
	What about you?
	I don't have one.
	Oh, right.
	Okay.
	Angelic?
	I'm very sorry.
	I don't either.
	That it come on, Angelic.
	I don't go on dates.
	You've got something.
	No, I don't go on dates.
	How about then?
	What about like, maybe like a Discord thing?
	No.
	No Discord?
	No.
	Like, you're talking to a guy in Discord for like a year and then turns out he.
	No, nothing bad has happened.
	No.
	Anything for you?
	Yeah, I met this guy on an app last year, and we had talked on the phone like a little bit beforehand, got to know each other a little bit, seemed fine.
	We went on a date to like a really nice restaurant, and then he proceeded to tell me, like, in graphic detail, how he had cheated on his or like fiancé beforehand.
	And these two girls were sitting next to me, literally texting each other back and forth, like without saying anything the entire time.
	And I've done that with my friends before, where you can see a bad date going on, so you're texting them without talking out loud.
	And so, yeah, it was really, really awkward and weird.
	I didn't get like really a word in at all edge-wise, either.
	It's really strange.
	There was no second date.
	It was on.
	Yeah.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	What is yours?
	Yeah, I want to hear.
	I have way too many.
	I don't even know where to begin.
	The worst.
	Did I give one last time?
	I'm trying to hear it.
	I didn't think so.
	I don't want to hear it, though.
	What's in them?
	Hmm.
	Most embarrassing date story.
	I've maybe told this one a long time ago.
	It's not so much embarrassing for me, but for them.
	And it's not that embarrassing.
	But so I got catfished, and they were 30 minutes late for the date.
	And so the way I got catfished, so there's a, you know, how royals throughout the year, the ages, they inbred.
	And when you inbreed, there's certain physical manifestations of inbreeding.
	So she had what I can only assume.
	It was called the Habsburg jaw.
	Nick, can you go into the Dropbox folder?
	She had a, and she hid it very well.
	On the pictures or something.
	And I think she was inbred.
	Did you ask her?
	No.
	You just assumed.
	I assumed.
	I assumed.
	Nick, I'm not sure where it is.
	I don't even know how to spell it.
	Habsburg Jaw.
	I didn't know that was because of inbreeding.
	Definitely because of the breeding.
	I thought that was the bad.
	I'm like, let me tell you.
	I'm trying to.
	It's the green.
	Oh, wait, Nick, it's in the Dropbox podcast folder.
	Habsburg.
	Yeah, it's the Habsburg Jaw photo in the podcast folder in Dropbox.
	Oh, my gosh.
	So this was my date.
	She wore that hat too.
	And you know what?
	I would have been fine with it, but I was more upset that she was 30 minutes late.
	I would have dealt with the jaw.
	The jaw could have been.
	You started your story with the jaw, so it obviously hurt you a little.
	You know, but she had other redeeming physical characteristics.
	You didn't know what she said.
	On the pause, she could probably extend her jaw further.
	Okay.
	But you did a video call with her beforehand, like, hey, I met this.
	Well, I saw the photos and we did a phone call.
	I didn't do a.
	Anyways, it wasn't the jaw.
	Did you kiss?
	No.
	No, she's 30 minutes late.
	So she showed up.
	I was already.
	I take that very, very seriously.
	I was very upset.
	I wasn't.
	I was upset internally.
	But you still waited there.
	You waited.
	That's I did, but then I intentionally, I was like, I'm just going to tank the date.
	So I tanked the date.
	It lasted 20 minutes and then I left.
	You probably would have tanked it anyway, let's be honest.
	Changed what?
	Tanked it anyway.
	Tanked it.
	Tanked.
	Isn't that what you just said?
	Yes, tanked.
	You're saying I would have, oh, because it would have gone bad even if she hadn't.
	You would have left anyway.
	I would have failed.
	Even if she was so sweet, has everything you've been looking for.
	No, well, she didn't apologize either.
	That was the bag.
	That was the big thing.
	Dency arrived and was like, sorry.
	I just wanted a token.
	Hey, sorry, I'm late.
	How's your day going?
	Well, not even that.
	Not even a text.
	Hey, sorry, I'm running late.
	So she hurt you, and then she held that jaw.
	The story is making it look pretty desperate.
	How's that desperate?
	No, he waited.
	She didn't even text to let him know.
	No, she is desperate.
	So she came 30 minutes late.
	I didn't apologize.
	I got there like five minutes early.
	To let the waiter know, hey, when the job comes, split it.
	I'm looking for Apto when she comes in.
	So then, like, five minutes after we're supposed to meet, she's like, oh, I'm so sorry, my fucking Uber, blah, blah, blah.
	Whatever.
	I'm going to be late.
	I'll be 10 minutes late.
	She's 30 minutes late.
	So she did apologize.
	Yeah, but she texts you.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm in the Uber.
	Excuse me.
	She didn't say sorry.
	But she did.
	Excuse me.
	She didn't say sorry, but she said, I'm going to be late.
	That's what I meant to say.
	And then there was never a apology.
	Andrew, do you hate it?
	He's changing his story also a little bit.
	What's that?
	What's his name?
	That is Maximilian III.
	Maximilian III.
	That's a horse from Rapinzel, right?
	What?
	Maximilian.
	Do you want to ask him something?
	Oh, no.
	I thought, I don't know.
	I thought his name was Michael for some reason.
	Sassy.
	No, I'm not kidding.
	I thought it was.
	Okay, cool.
	Cool story.
	Cool story, Brian.
	I have a question.
	How did you get the date to end in 20 minutes?
	What did you say and do?
	Oh, wait, hold on.
	Let me read this.
	How dare you, Brian?
	I would have done your laundry and folded your thongs neatly and hit the bow.
	You missed out.
	No, Brian deserves a courtesy for sure.
	Not a bow.
	Look at his name.
	Look at his name.
	The Habsburg job.
	Yeah, I read it.
	Okay, what's your beef?
	What's your beef?
	I don't have a beef.
	What was your question?
	How did you get it to end in 20 minutes?
	Yeah.
	Well, she arrived, and then I was like, okay.
	Wait, what's funny, Nick?
	Just know you just stonewalled her, right?
	You didn't even talk to her.
	Stonewalled.
	Oh.
	Well, I was waiting.
	I was going to give her a bit of grace.
	I was waiting about five minutes for the apology.
	But you know, you're like kind of sitting there, you're waiting for somebody to apologize.
	It's like, it's not coming.
	You're like, fuck.
	So, I was just very direct.
	I was like, listen, I think I was just like, look, if you want, you can come back to my place.
	For the jaw action.
	But I wasn't going to like, I wasn't going to do any of the conversational foreplay that is typical on a date.
	I was like, okay, you've already committed the social faux pas.
	Allow me to return the favor.
	You want to just hook up and then I was just super fuck her.
	I've never been with an inbred woman.
	I thought I'd give it a shot.
	Or you would like fucking her.
	Do you hook up on the first date?
	Sassy.
	If I'm, what do you mean?
	Because I wanted to take her back.
	Bear in mind, this was years ago.
	No, it doesn't matter.
	No, I'm surprised.
	Yeah.
	I have more respect for you actually now.
	Why?
	Because you fucked on the first date.
	Look, I don't have any objections to hooking up on the first date.
	But you were like, I do like her.
	But I don't do one-night stance.
	But you want to do that.
	I don't do her.
	So you were planning on seeing her after that then.
	Yeah, because he asked her if she wanted to go back to his house, even with that job.
	I believe in second chances.
	I believe in second chances.
	If the blowjob was good enough.
	Why?
	Yeah, because he wanted to take her back.
	He talked about her appearance, how she was not acting nicely.
	She looks like an inbred.
	And then you're like, do you still want to bang?
	Why did I tell this?
	Read between the lines.
	Do you still want to bang?
	Would be nice.
	Maybe the baby would be cute.
	They have your nose, her jaw.
	Fucking funny.
	Don't make me pull up your pre-fucking millions of surgeries that you've oh, you can.
	Yeah.
	You saw them on the pictures last time.
	Yeah.
	The difference between me and you is I just live with my labyrinth and I'm not.
	Shut up.
	That's the only thing.
	Nah, she's kind of annoying, not gonna lie.
	No, that's not true.
	You would date me the last time you told me.
	Well, okay, hold on.
	I'm about to kick you off the fucking show.
	Why?
	You think I would fucking date you?
	Don't fucking try to slander my name like that.
	Why is that?
	I was very fucking clear on the show I would not fucking date you.
	You just didn't answer.
	That's the thing.
	Yeah, but I don't like when girls come on the show and be like, oh, he was in my DMs.
	No, I didn't say you were in my DMs.
	I didn't say you text me.
	I didn't say any of that.
	Yeah, but don't play this fucking game of like, don't falsely accuse me of shit that's not fucking true.
	But I didn't say that you messaged me or anything.
	Huh?
	Did I say that you messaged me or talked to me or anything?
	What did you say?
	I said, oh, you would date me, right?
	When did I say that?
	It was a joke because you didn't message me.
	It didn't seem like a joke.
	But I'm telling you, it was a joke.
	I didn't say, oh, you messaged me or anything.
	I didn't do anything of that.
	Just say sorry.
	Not gonna lie, the side of Brian's pretty hot.
	Okay.
	What the fuck?
	Come on, say more.
	Yell more.
	Okay, fucking keep it in your pants, Nicolette.
	Jesus.
	All right.
	Moving on.
	Moving on.
	I'll get into the pre-show notes here.
	So.
	Awkward.
	Yeah, let's do Twitch, man.
	All right.
	Pull up Twitch.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow on the Prime Sub.
	Guys, it's been three minutes since we last had a Prime.
	Drop me a follow.
	And then the Prime sub if you have one available.
	It's a quick, for easy way to support the show every single month.
	And then Thin Mint Beats.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you for the Prime sub.
	And then I think that's pretty much it.
	Okay.
	Pull up Pelagic's tweet.
	Go ahead.
	Don't feed that beast, Brian.
	Okay.
	Thank you for the super chat.
	I'm not sure who you're referring to.
	Who is the beast?
	Me?
	Hasburg John?
	That beast, Brian?
	I don't think he's talking about me.
	The Habsburg John.
	I don't know.
	They were saying that the redhead is bugged.
	They said that she's bugged boys.
	So you got to send in the great super chats because the redhead is bugged, I guess.
	Buff?
	What does that mean?
	Bugged?
	Yeah, just bugged.
	I don't know.
	I don't know what that means.
	But I guess she's bug boys.
	She could be.
	Could be.
	Probably bugged.
	Could be.
	Could be she's bug boys.
	Could be.
	Could be.
	All right.
	So, okay, let's get into some of the pre-show notes.
	So we have, let's see.
	Nope, not here.
	We have Jamie.
	Jamie, you said you're an educated Christian woman who doesn't like the impurity culture of modern women.
	I would like to be a counter voice to the frivolous women of today.
	Yes.
	You've been single celibate for six years.
	You think men should pay for everything.
	I did not say that.
	Wait.
	And be a provider for women they are dating?
	No.
	Wait, hold on.
	You didn't say that?
	No.
	You didn't?
	No.
	I said it if you're married.
	I said men like.
	Nah, nope.
	Okay.
	I will read it verbatim.
	Okay.
	Number seven.
	This is answer number seven in response to any dating topics takes you want to speak on.
	If so, what?
	That men should pay for everything and be a provider for women they are dating.
	I think this idea pushes women into being unproductive, entitled, and lazy.
	Yes.
	Then you follow by saying men should provide for their wives with children who are stay-at-home mothers, sure, but women should never rely on the man for his wallet and should be focused on their education.
	Yes.
	Boo.
	What about it?
	So I'm a little confused here.
	These are a bit contradictory.
	So if you have children with a man and you want to be a stay-at-home mother, I think yes, then a man should provide for you and give you that lifestyle if he impregnates you and wants that from you or if you want that for yourself.
	But I feel like if in this culture, it's like, oh, we need to date men who are providers.
	And that pushes women into not being educated, not trying to get money for themselves, just which is not good.
	I don't understand why is that not good.
	I know, I completely disagree with that.
	disagree with that as well yeah but oh go ahead No, no, no.
	Tell me the counter-arguments.
	You were saying how if your husband provides for you, it insinuates that you get your education, correct?
	Yes.
	Right?
	Okay.
	So I have many friends of mine that are stay-at-home moms.
	And because they're able to be stay-at-home moms, they also homeschool their kids.
	So while they're teaching their kids, they're also getting educated because obviously the public school system kind of sucks.
	So while they're teaching their kids, they're learning everything and teaching their kids.
	And being a mother in itself is it's a whole career.
	So that being able to care for a child is a whole education in itself.
	Yes.
	And they run their household, so it's almost like an entrepreneurial job.
	I was not talking about stay-at-home mothers today.
	Yes, stay-at-home mothers, I am all for.
	That's such a positive, I think, to society.
	I'm just talking about if you're a girlfriend to a man, like you should not rely on his wallet.
	There's a difference if you're legally married and then if you divorce, like then you'll at least be financially compensated.
	But there's a lot of women who are just girlfriends who rely on a man and it could end at any moment.
	And they don't get an education.
	They just rely on a man and then they have no backup plan, no education, which is, it's dumb.
	What if they had an education before?
	Then, okay.
	Then they have something to rely on.
	I don't think dumps them.
	But why are you relying on a man on a man's wallet if you have no education, no backup, nothing?
	It sounds like you've never had a boyfriend to provide for you.
	I don't need a boyfriend to provide for me.
	I don't know.
	So I'm right, yes.
	Yeah, because I don't need a man to provide for me.
	I think it's nice when a man pays for everything but isn't your provider.
	I mean, I think that there's like a complete difference, but I do think that if you're not married, the money needs to be separate.
	But whenever I was dating my now husband, like I expected him to pay every single time, and that's with him having a very, he was a student and had a part-time job and didn't have that much money.
	So if he wasn't going to pay and didn't have the money, then he had to come up with something creative like a picnic because I didn't like to pay.
	So, but that, but I didn't rely on him financially.
	So I get what you're saying.
	I think men naturally want to be providers and protectors.
	And like when we're looking to date, like right now, like I'm just starting to date someone, but I'm looking for marriage within the end goal in mind.
	I'm 25.
	Like I think it's time.
	Like you should try to get married younger, but also like be choosy with who you're picking.
	You shouldn't just pick any guy that has cash or someone that doesn't have any values.
	And so you should pick someone.
	And I'm also a Christian woman, someone that loves God first more than anything, but like wants to lay down his life for his like wife that he's looking for.
	And so like I think this idea of like hookup culture and like just kind of sleeping around testing the waters like is actually really harmful for women.
	And so we should look for someone that's willing to commit as a provider and protector first, like before you get married.
	And then once you get married, like you can continue your career, have all those things.
	But like ultimately, I think what brings satisfactory to women is having children and more than a career could offer.
	I agree with you.
	I totally agree with you.
	I'm just when you're dating someone, you just should not date for financial reasons.
	You should date because you love them.
	You shouldn't date because, oh, they can buy you this or that.
	And a lot of women fall onto like, oh, he has a bag or, oh, he has a good job or this and that.
	And they don't look at the person underneath all of that.
	And it mess it, sorry, I can't curse, but it messes up women.
	Yeah, but the man should have a job.
	Like, he should have a stable career.
	He should be able to provide for the woman and the man.
	The woman doesn't necessarily have to.
	I think you need a fallback.
	If you get divorced and you have no money, no career, what are you going to do?
	How are you going to support the kids that you do have?
	You shouldn't be marrying someone that you have any kinds of doubts that you're going to divorce.
	Like, why are you marrying someone that you think you're going to divorce with?
	Because it happens.
	Plus, you can't be living in la-la land that you're never going to divorce.
	You have to have like a, you have to have money just in case.
	That's fair.
	But if that is the case, that you have a contingency plan based around divorce, then wouldn't it be fair for a man to have the contingency plan of having a prenup?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, if that's the case.
	So then that negates your whole point right there.
	No prenub.
	Yeah.
	Well, it'll essentially just nail, yeah, it'll nail your position, right?
	Because if you're saying women need to have some type of way to fall back post-divorce and men also should, then essentially the only option then would be a prenup, right?
	No.
	No prenup.
	Never.
	Never.
	Why?
	What do you mean?
	I'm going to literally give you my vagina, but you can't give me like your money.
	Oh, wow.
	Thank you so much.
	No, why?
	Where you gave someone your vagina?
	Wow.
	Because why are you arguing that?
	It was spun by Rumpel Stilskin himself.
	It was made out of gold.
	The thing is, is like, so what?
	He's giving you his penis, too.
	Like, what is the great grandiose thing that he's being married?
	So do you agree with a prenup?
	Yeah, I think that, especially from a secular perspective, I can't think of a single reason why a secular man should even get married.
	I couldn't give you a single secular argument for why a secular man should even get married.
	It makes zero sense.
	You can get all the benefits.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Let me explain the argument, then respond to it.
	Okay.
	It makes no sense for a secularist to get married.
	None.
	I've never been able to figure out a really good argument for why.
	As it turns out, you can get all of the shit that you want from a woman without ever being married to her and putting yourself in that type of situation where you could be set up for a massive amount of pain because the courts are biased towards men when it comes to divorce.
	So from a secular perspective, I can't even offer a single argument for why secularists should get married.
	I can't offer one.
	I completely agree with you.
	I think that if you get married, it's because you're religious.
	That's it.
	Yeah, but the thing is, is that if you enter into a religious marriage with a woman, unfortunately, the state still comes in.
	So I would say get a covenant marriage.
	And I would leave the state out of it altogether.
	I think that having the state involved with marriage licensing is fucking stupid.
	And if you're getting married for religious purposes, then why aren't you getting married through the church?
	Why are you wasting your time at the state at all?
	Entering into the state contract still gives her incentives to eliminate the marriage.
	And if it gives incentives to eliminate the marriage, you have a big problem on your hands.
	Well, what I'm confused about is that she's arguing that men should have the right to get a prenup, but she's also arguing that men should take care of women after she, well, she's trying to be consistent with her position, which I have respect for.
	So her position is consistent.
	Yeah, but it's consistent.
	So she's saying if women, if women are preparing to have a contingency, then it's okay for men to as well.
	That's consistent.
	That's at least a consistent position.
	I'm so happy that you gave her that out and answered for her.
	Thank you.
	Well, I didn't answer for her.
	I explained the position.
	That's not yours.
	I was asking.
	Well, it doesn't need to be mine to explain the position.
	Like, you understand?
	You know, I can understand what a person says and not be speaking for them, right?
	So I'm not giving an answer from her worldview.
	I'm just telling you what the worldview is.
	She's consistently saying if there's an out for one, it's consistent.
	If there's an out for another, I don't even know.
	Like, what is the actual argument you have against that?
	It doesn't nullify it.
	So what is the actual argument you have against me?
	She just said that if a man and a woman get divorced, then the woman should have something to fall back on if the man's taking care of her all their bills.
	Yeah, but she says that a woman should be falling back on their education and that men should be falling back on a prenup.
	That's what she's saying.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Am I wrong or is that what you just said?
	No, that's exactly what I just said.
	Yeah, got it.
	Okay.
	Did you also have something else to say?
	I saw you come in right before.
	No, he explained it.
	Okay.
	Yeah, he answered for her.
	It's okay.
	I didn't answer for her.
	No, I didn't answer for her.
	I just, all I did was reiterate the position so that you understood it because you clearly didn't understand it.
	Now, it is possible that you just didn't understand what she said, and I'm being very charitable about this, right?
	Why would you go against me wanting women to get an education?
	I'm not against that.
	Okay.
	But I'm also not against men paying for women's everything.
	In fact, I believe that they should.
	I didn't say that.
	I said married.
	And I'm saying even if they're dating, I don't think, I don't see anything wrong with that.
	I don't think we should take advantage of men during the dating phase.
	If they're willing to do it on their own, like you said, it's innate for them.
	It's nature.
	They want when you're committed to someone for your whole entire life and you've made that commitment and you've said no to everybody else but just to that person.
	But if you're going around just looking for different men that you can just take advantage of and just take things from, then that's wrong.
	You shouldn't take advantage of that.
	I didn't say I wanted to take advantage of men.
	That's your opinion.
	I respect it.
	I just have a different opinion.
	And we can end it there.
	Yeah, but let's not end it there because I do want to know I do want I do want to kind of explore.
	So they gave their positions on this, right?
	What's your position on this?
	I said I think that it's totally okay for a man to provide for women in the dating stage.
	I'm not going to quit.
	I'm not going to quit working.
	Hang on.
	We were talking about prenups.
	So do you think that prenup is acceptable for a man?
	Yes, but it works both ways.
	If the woman's dumb enough to not know that she can also have a say in the prenup, that's on her.
	I personally know.
	So then what is your actual objection?
	If she says that the woman can fall back on her education, the man can fall back on the prenup.
	What is the actual objection there?
	So there wasn't any objection.
	Right, there wasn't any objection.
	So what the fuck are you asking?
	I was questioning her because she was like being, she was like countering her own argument.
	So I wanted her to explain it further.
	But you explained it further.
	I was countering her own argument.
	How is she countering her own argument?
	You didn't even understand her argument.
	And thank you for elaborating for her.
	Now I understand.
	Well, somebody needed to elaborate because you didn't.
	I mean, it's such a simple kind.
	I don't know why you didn't understand it.
	It's very simple.
	She's saying one falls back on this, the other falls back on that.
	I don't even agree with that, but I mean, at least I understood what the hell she said, right?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Not sure what I missed, but let me quickly address this here because I'm getting not only gaslit by a panelist, but also gaslit by the chat.
	This is exactly what Tamara said.
	She said, no, that's not true.
	You would date me the last time you told me.
	So.
	Then I said that drawing.
	Last time you told me you would date me.
	I never said that.
	That's a false accusation.
	We've had other women come on show who say that I'm in their DMs or say that I'm subscribed to their OnlyFans to try to get a clip or to try to, you know, kind of break down what I'm trying to do here.
	So you tried to gaslight me and say, no, that's not what I said.
	This is what you said.
	Okay?
	De Nabo.
	And for the chat who's also gaslighting me, this is what she said.
	Excuse me.
	This is what she said, and it's worthy of a defense.
	De Nabo, absolutely apologize for that.
	All right.
	Okay, okay.
	Have you ever heard the song I'm Sorry?
	Have you ever heard that song?
	Is that Justin Bieber?
	No, it's not Justin Bieber.
	No.
	It's an oldie song.
	It's called I'm Sorry.
	Have you ever heard that?
	We're all in like our 20s, though.
	You never heard it?
	No.
	I feel like you should sing the I'm Sorry song.
	You know, you should do it.
	Because you're dressed up like Jessica Rabbit, she was a singer.
	So I thought, you know, you can sing the I'm sorry song.
	I do not know it.
	What's that?
	I do not know the songs.
	You don't know the song?
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	It's too bad.
	It's a great song.
	Of course, there's a woman singing I'm sorry, so I'm not surprised.
	I did apologize.
	Does your wife sing that to you all the time?
	What, I'm sorry?
	Yeah.
	No, my wife usually doesn't have anything to be sorry about.
	Why would she sing that song?
	Oh, that's cute.
	I'm happy for you.
	All right, Pelagic.
	Thank you for the $100 soup chat, man.
	Appreciate it.
	And then we have Pelagic.
	Prenuptial is nothing to get comfortable with and never look at it as a fallback.
	I 100% agree with that because anything could be dealt upon in litigation.
	If you have a good enough lawyer, that's true.
	Andrew, can you tune me into what you guys were talking about while I was gone?
	Yeah, so we were getting into the idea of contingency plans for marriage.
	The idea being women should fall back on education was what the gal, the one blonde gal on the panel was saying.
	I'm sorry, I didn't catch your name.
	What did you say your name was?
	Jamie.
	Jamie, yeah, it was what Jamie was saying was she thinks that men should be able to fall back.
	Women should be able to fall back in education.
	And so I questioned this by asking, then is it fair for men to fall back on a prenuptial agreement?
	And she agreed that that seemed to be fair.
	And then the meta argument was about whether or not she said that or not.
	So actually he's misunderstanding.
	She didn't say that women should be able to fall back on education.
	She said they should be able to fall back on their ex-husbands.
	I did not say that.
	I did not say that one.
	Chad, go back in the chat.
	No, don't even say that.
	I said that women should be educated.
	And then if they want to be stay-at-home mothers, that would be great, but they need an education to fall back on.
	Here's the straw man that you're making.
	And I actually have it from my notes here.
	So the straw man that you're making is what she said was there is a way for married women to fall back because they have child support.
	That's what she actually claimed, which is true, right?
	That's already the fallback, which is there.
	So she's saying if we absent that, then you would end up with them having to fall back on their education if there was a prenup.
	Also, there's other ones.
	It's still a consistent argument, at least.
	So you don't have to have child support for your ex-partner to pay for your lifestyle after marriage.
	Child support for children.
	Yeah, I totally agree.
	I do want to say I did misunderstand you.
	I thought you were saying that once you're married, you need to get an education to fall back on it.
	Like, you're going to get an education because you're thinking like your marriage is going to fail.
	That's what I'm saying.
	That is initially what she said.
	And I do feel like she kind of switched it after that, to be totally fair.
	That's how I heard it initially, too.
	Yeah, basically, Andrews.
	That wasn't what you were arguing against.
	What are you saying thank you for?
	You were arguing against a totally different audience.
	Because we were all confused.
	What are you saying thank you for?
	Because we were all.
	I'm not vindication for you.
	Well, I was confused.
	She was confused.
	You're the one who elaborated till we all understood.
	Yeah, I'm actually following the conversation.
	Isn't that crazy?
	I'm like actually listening to what people are saying.
	Isn't that funny?
	No, you're right.
	You're right.
	I'm so sorry.
	You're right.
	I'm so sorry.
	It will not happen again.
	How does that song go?
	I'm sorry.
	No, that's not how it goes.
	Somebody in the chat is asking me to ask about your multiple personalities.
	Do you have multiple personalities?
	No.
	Do you know what this is in reference to?
	Not at all.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'll dismiss it then.
	Did you guys have a back and forth on this whole who should pay thing?
	Or not who should pay, but you said men should pay for everything and be a provider for women their dating.
	No, not dating.
	That's what you said in your notes.
	Wait, I'm sorry.
	I don't think I said that.
	It's the multiple personalities speaking, Brian.
	No.
	You could have said that.
	I think I said that.
	You did say it, but I'll grant if you misspoke.
	Okay, I might have misspoke.
	You wrote it.
	May I say?
	Okay.
	We're all confusing.
	Just take my word for it.
	No, I mean, like, is okay, maybe I possibly misspoke, but I don't think like dating.
	I don't mean, sorry, maybe not everything as in like their rent, their lifestyle, their car.
	I don't mean that.
	So what should they provide for them?
	If you are dating a man and he should pay for the date, okay, why?
	Because I think that's just manners.
	Just manners?
	Yes.
	Or, yes.
	I was thinking like maybe in like gay, sorry, gay relationships, there's other things like a woman and a woman or a man and a man.
	Okay, we're talking about heterosexual relationships.
	Okay, then a man should pay.
	Okay, why?
	It kind of gives you a glimpse of what a marriage will look like.
	So it's just kind of like him paying for the food, like a little glimpse of the future when he's like paying the mortgage.
	I just think it's not sure I agree with that, but okay.
	I actually like, I think I have a weird opinion on this.
	Like, I'm okay building a man up, like supporting him while being the girlfriend, and him not paying for everything.
	Like, I don't, I shouldn't expect a man who's my age, like 23, to be able to be financially like providing for literally everything, you know?
	If a man asks you on a date, which presumably the woman does not ask a man on a date, let's say, and if that's so, then the person who asked the person on a date should pay.
	I think that's just manners.
	So I'm just presuming the man would ask the woman on a date.
	And I think then, yes, a man should pay for the date.
	Yeah, I've heard this a lot.
	Let me give you a little bit of pushback on it, though.
	So the idea here being: if the man asks, the man should pay.
	And so it's kind of assumed that because men are going to do most of the asking, that men are going to be paying for most of the date.
	That's what your position on this is, right?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	So the thing is, though, is that I assume that the woman's going on the date because she wants to be there.
	So then I don't understand why.
	If she wants to be there, why shouldn't she pay?
	I don't get that.
	It's like if I asked a friend, if I'm like, you want to go to a rock concert this week?
	And he's like, yeah, doesn't mean I pay for the rock concert, right?
	I assume he wants to go.
	But you're not courting your friend.
	Yeah, what does that have to do with anything, though?
	What does the courtship portion of it have to do with anything?
	I assume that they also want to court you, or they wouldn't go on the date, right?
	Yes, of course.
	Yeah, so I mean, if that's the case, she wants to be there and he wants to be there.
	So why does it default to him paying?
	That's the part of this I've never understood.
	If a man did want to go 50-50 with me on a date, I wouldn't be like, whoa, no, or think of him any less.
	I just think like that's the standard for a man or the person who asked to pay.
	It's just yeah, but you said you think they should.
	That it's good manners.
	A man is supposed to be a provider and a protector.
	This is a natural role.
	This is like the order of things men like are supposed to be able to provide for their women and this is setting a standard for the rest of their relationship.
	I'm not saying that like later on, like maybe you're dating for a year or two years that a woman can never pay for anything.
	Like personally, like I like to treat like whoever I'm dating like every once in a while just because I think it's nice and like to show that like, hey, I'm also financially invested in this.
	But a man is supposed to take control in that kind of a way and to provide for the girl.
	That way, this is gender roles.
	Like this is how our Yeah, no, that's just an appeal to nature.
	It's actually a fallacious form of thinking, right?
	Oh, men should pay because it's natural that men have always paid.
	It's like, that's not a good argument, especially in modernity.
	Why should men pay for dates?
	Why?
	Why is that necessary that men pay to take you on a date?
	I assume you want to be on the date.
	If you don't want to be on the date, then you're just fleecing him, right?
	That's what you're doing.
	If you don't want to be on the date, just don't go.
	But I always want to say that.
	But that's my whole point, right?
	It's like, if you don't want to be on the date, then just don't go.
	But I assume if you want to be on the date, why is it assumed he's going to pay for the date?
	That's the part where we're having the disconnect.
	Well, can I say, so for example, I also think of it like, you know, whenever birds are trying to mate, it's the male birds that are the prettiest.
	They like dance for their female birds.
	Like females don't say, oh, I'm going to dance back.
	Like it's the man who's like dancing.
	So whenever the man is paying for the dinner, that's him dancing.
	Yeah, and black widow spiders will have sex with a mate and then kill them and lay their young inside of their dead corpse.
	Like looking at animals to determine how human beings are supposed to behave with each other is absurd.
	That's why we don't appeal to nature.
	That's why it's a fallacious form of thinking and argumentation.
	It's like, okay, I can bring up all sorts of counterexamples of black widow spiders doing horrible things to their mates, right?
	It's like, is that the way we should do things?
	Should women sleep with a man, then kill him, and then lay their babies inside the man?
	Like, isn't that absurd, right?
	We should be more like black widows, in my opinion.
	I feel like if you guys are unsure if you're going to fully commit to each other yet, like you're still in the getting to know each other phase, it's okay if you guys pay for your own things.
	And then like once you get in a committed relationship, I do believe like, and she said, like, treating my man as well.
	So like, yeah, maybe he pays for some dates, but maybe I ask him out too and I pay for some as well.
	I don't know.
	That's just my opinion.
	I think it ultimately goes back to like our natural design, right?
	Like I believe in God.
	I believe that he created a natural order for things.
	I believe that there's a certain way that we are to live.
	And so in that, like, God created man first and then he created woman to be the helper.
	And so God created man to be the provider.
	And so you're asking why is it creating God?
	Did not create the modern social order of chivalry.
	That was not a creation of God.
	That was a creation.
	If you look at this, like the Bible and read the Bible and the New Testament.
	I've read the Bible many times and I'm going to tell you again that the idea in the Bible that men must pay for dates does not exist absent your brain, your head cannon that you just made up.
	Where should I look at the Bible for men pay for dates?
	Is that under, I just made that shit up, chapter nine?
	Like, where can I find that in the Bible?
	You can look at husbands love your wives and wives submit to your husband.
	I'm sorry, are we talking about husbands and wives?
	Or are we talking about dating?
	Dating, yeah, you're right.
	There's not too much about dating in the Bible, if anything, at all.
	Yeah, there's not too much, is there?
	Because what we have is we have a societal construct for how that works.
	And appealing to the Bible and saying this means that men have to pay for dates.
	Where?
	I mean, how do you even come to this conclusion?
	It's such a massive leap.
	Why should men pay for a date in modernity with women?
	What are they bringing to the table?
	Are they bringing chastity and virtue and virginity?
	No.
	So why is it that we are going to assume that based on this chivalrous code where people would kill each other for the virginity of malady, if there is no more milady, what the hell are we killing each other and paying for exactly?
	Are you even arguing about something that you care about?
	Because something tells me that you would pay for a first date for the first few dates.
	Let's assume that I would.
	What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
	So then you're talking out of your ass.
	How would that be talking out of my ass to press your mind?
	Then you're a hypocrite.
	I'm sorry.
	Wait a second.
	Wait a second.
	Smoking cigarettes is bad.
	Do you see that I'm smoking?
	Should I tell a five-year-old that they should be able to smoke because I also smoke?
	Does that even make sense to you?
	No, but you're a hypocrite.
	No, because it's the stupidest shit anybody's ever heard.
	What the hell are you talking about?
	You're a hypocrite then.
	Oh, so I'm a hypocrite if I don't tell a five-year-old to smoke because I smoke.
	Smoke, yes.
	Oh, okay.
	So if a person takes medicinal drugs for pain, should they tell a five-year-old to take medicinal drugs?
	Other than that, if they're prescribed it by a doctor, then okay.
	Well, then let me ask you a series of questions.
	Have you ever told a lie?
	Everyone at this table, including a living.
	And never get mad at another person again the rest of your fucking life who lies to you or you're a hypocrite.
	We're all hypocrites.
	Okay, well then what's your fucking point?
	Because you're going on and on and on.
	If he's a hypocrite and you're a hypocrite, then calling me a hypocrite means fucking nothing.
	So I'm right.
	You're a hypocrite and you're arguing about something you don't know.
	But I'm also a hypocrite.
	What have we established here?
	I know, but I'm not going to go on and on and argue about something.
	Wait, you're a hypocrite.
	I'm a hypocrite.
	She's a hypocrite.
	They're a hypocrite.
	So if everyone's a hypocrite, then it doesn't fucking matter.
	But you kind of sound silly.
	It's a situation.
	Like, this is absurd on its face.
	You sound like a silly goose.
	I'm sorry.
	You have a gunt.
	Like, what do you want me to say?
	I have a gun.
	A gun.
	Gunt?
	Yeah, G-U-N-T.
	An actual gun.
	And I'm not going to take lip from a woman with a gun ever.
	What the fuck?
	What does that mean?
	No, define.
	You know what?
	I actually, I don't think I can give the definition.
	Why?
	Then, Brian, you do it.
	I'd rather not, to be honest.
	To go back from before.
	Okay, then he's a pussy.
	He's a pussy.
	Because you're going to say something that I don't get.
	All right, calm down, Nicolette.
	Go ahead.
	I think that there are a lot of women, including myself, that are bringing abstinence and chastity to the table that have a lot to offer a lot of men.
	And that is something that is, I believe, on the right.
	So I got to come in on this really quick, and I'll kind of wrap it into what you just said there.
	You said you're bringing abstinence and chastity.
	Just quick clarification on that.
	Are you a virgin?
	Currently, no.
	What do you mean, currently?
	I mean, like, yeah, not in my, like, I only been with one person my ex of seven years, and then I, like, have committed myself to chastity.
	Sure.
	So you said men should pay for dates, right?
	Just curious, who's standard, like what's your, the whole panel, should men pay for first aids?
	Show of hands?
	Show of hands?
	Yes?
	I'll go around the table.
	Yes or no?
	I would say no.
	Yes.
	Yes, but after he explained it, I'd be okay going 50-50.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	If the man asks you, he should pay.
	If he asks.
	Yes, they should pay.
	Into the mic, please.
	Yes, they should pay.
	I'm in between.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	No.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Should women be virgins?
	Ideally, yes.
	I think I made a really big mistake in my life, and it was before I was really walking with God and really didn't have any morals.
	And so if I could go back, I would take it back.
	Okay.
	Should women be.
	My husband was my first, so I was a virgin the entire time dating him.
	Sure.
	So.
	Milady.
	I was the milady.
	Should women stay at home, let the man work, and take care of the kids?
	If they want to.
	This is a should question.
	Should they?
	That's a very good question.
	I think yes.
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	Gunt is slang for a fatty area below the belly button and above the pubic area of the woman.
	Often as a result of childbirth, weight gain, or just having a totally normal body.
	Thank you for defining.
	Unlike the pussy.
	Wasn't it Andrew?
	Next to the question, I think yes.
	Sorry, can you read the question?
	Yeah, so should women stay at home and raise the kids?
	I think it's situational, but I think no, if they also have goals they want to pursue.
	Okay.
	Yes, there should be at least one stay-at-home parent.
	It doesn't have to be the mother, but.
	No, no, but should it be women?
	Oh, should it be women?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	No.
	I think that women should do whatever they want to do.
	So if they want to be a stay-at-home mom and take care of the kids.
	Just should.
	Yes or no?
	I think that one size doesn't fit all.
	Okay.
	It just depends on the context.
	Like if I was going into the marriage and that's what he wanted me to do, then I should.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	So no, but I mean, it depends on each situation and how you guys have started dating and going into marriage.
	Personally, for me, yeah.
	Okay.
	I say yes.
	Okay.
	It's just interesting to me because we don't really have a problem saying men should do this when it comes to their gender roles, their traditional gender roles.
	Men should be protectors, men should lead, men should be dominant, men should be masculine, men should, should, should, men should pay for first aids.
	But then when we look at women's traditional gender roles, those seem to be far more flexible in the current social order.
	Well, women shouldn't have to fall into their traditional gender roles.
	But men, we need to hold men to their 1950s sexist.
	If I were to say women should not go to work and they should stay home and take care of the kids, half of you would call me a sexist.
	But you wouldn't have objections, really, I think, if, and I don't think any of you really do object, if we say men should pay for first aids, which is a traditional gender role and is essentially sexist.
	If it's sexist to say a woman should do this, then it must correspondingly be sexist to say men should do this.
	I don't think it's sexist of you to say that women should stay home.
	Well, keep in mind, I'm not saying that.
	I was just asking the question.
	I think all those words are bullshit.
	Sex is this, sex is that.
	I think that if everyone should do what the fuck they want to do, in my opinion, I want, if I'm having someone's child, that's what I want.
	Doesn't mean they should.
	If they don't want to, then they're not the man for me and I'm not the woman for them.
	Simple as that.
	No one should do anything.
	Go ahead.
	I agree with what you're saying, but I have a question of what you were saying, like 10 minutes ago, because I think it misunderstood.
	You said a woman should have something to rely on.
	I think you mean it in a safety way.
	What if your man would pass away, do not have money, then you can do something to provide for you?
	think you mean it in a safety way not in a must way no no not in a must but you need a then a woman would be safe if something would happen and then she has a little back That's what you mean.
	I agree with you, Brian.
	I think that a woman does have a gender role and there are things that women should do.
	We're called to be nurturers and to like raise up our children.
	Like that is something that we fit into.
	That is what women should do.
	But it seems like women's roles are a bit more malleable, whereas there's not quite as much flexibility when it comes to men's roles.
	For example, Nicolette, you said, well, if a woman, if she wants to be a boss babe and do porn, she can.
	But also, she can also be a single or stay-at-home mom and take care of the household.
	But you were very strong on men should pay for first dates.
	You're right, I did say that.
	Should, I don't think should.
	I don't like that word should, but that's how you ask that.
	Well, I can ask it a different way, though.
	In my opinion, I wouldn't put up with...
	If you went on a date with a guy and he said two checks, will there be a second date?
	No, but that's me.
	And I'm not the same as her, her, her, her.
	So should doesn't exist.
	Would you build a man up if he's like studying very hard and is getting somewhere in his life?
	So, you know, in like two years, he will be like, well, personally.
	Would you like help him because you're like making already money?
	Would you like work together and help him up?
	Or is it a no-go if he would be like, you know what, I would love to take you on a date, but I cannot pay it for, but I really like you.
	I'm building something.
	Would you like be a team and like go forward together?
	Or is it like a no-go?
	Personally, myself, I turned 25 in a couple of weeks.
	I'm too old to help build a man up.
	And even if I did, in my seven-year relationship from 15 to 22, just like you, he still provided for me.
	Yeah, but like 25 is still school age.
	So how can he like really be a top-level men already?
	That's hard on me.
	There's a lot of pressure on a man, actually.
	So then I'm going to look something different than you would.
	No, no, no, that's okay, but it's quite a lot of pressure you put on a man, right?
	Well, he can accept it or not.
	Men's prime is typically actually like early 30s, I'm pretty sure.
	So they're like still building themselves up during their 20s.
	I guess that's why I'm so I understand you're not.
	I'm just saying like my perspective.
	That's why like with the last guy that I liked, I understood he's still going to school.
	He's still sorting his stuff out.
	And I would support him, you know, if he needed help studying, like I'd be there with him, you know, trying to be like flashcards, you know, like little stuff like that.
	But I understand it's not for everyone.
	And personally, I'm not dating guys my age.
	I'm dating older.
	That already had something.
	So you would never help a man up.
	Only date a man who already has the things.
	I want someone who will make me better.
	But that's also like then you provide from him, right?
	So you will not help a man up, but you want a man to help you up.
	Yes.
	It's a bit transactional.
	That's a little bit different.
	That's what I want.
	And you want something different that doesn't make me wrong.
	Are you right?
	Or vice versa.
	It's just what I want and what you want.
	You want to meet someone at the finish line.
	And for example, I want to run the race with them, basically.
	That's just how I would put it in terms.
	Yes.
	When I met my husband, he was going to full-time.
	He like went to full-time school and worked part-time.
	And I dropped out of school after like two months.
	And so I worked all the time.
	And I loved when he would pay, but our dates look like we're going to go get coffee or we're going to go get chips and guacamole, like very non-expensive dates.
	And it was great because he had to be really creative with what he had.
	So I didn't expect to go on luxurious dates at all, but I did expect him to, like, if you don't have money, then go buy like a loaf of bread and we're going to go give them to the ducks at the lake or something.
	But he was still in that sense providing.
	And I saw how he was working extremely hard in school to one day, you know, be a provider for a family.
	And I'm not going to lie, there's multiple ways to be chivalrous as well, in my opinion, like opening doors or like, you know, I've had a man even like buckle me into my seat and like stuff like that.
	Like, or cut my food for me.
	You know, maybe he can't pay for the bill, but he'll cut my food for me because he knows I like it in small pieces.
	Like stuff like that.
	There's little things that men can do to show acts of kindness without money being involved.
	But also keep in mind, I'm a stripper and I do OnlyFans, so my standard of men is really high.
	Why is that high?
	I'm on OnlyFans as well.
	You cannot say you're a valuable woman if you fuck everybody.
	Yes, it's high because people just, men give me money for nothing.
	Do you do scenes with men?
	That makes a difference.
	So in the six years, in the six years of me doing OnlyFans, I've done four male scenes.
	So you want a man that's high value, only commits to you, but you can go to your job and be like, yeah, fuck it, it's just work.
	I'm doing the same work.
	I do not do scenes with men.
	But you accept less.
	So my definition of high value is different than yours.
	So you're being naked every strip week is me accepting.
	You accepting more.
	It's all about perspective.
	In my perspective, yes.
	In your perspective, I don't deserve a high-value man.
	Can your men be a gigolo or anything like that?
	Can he be a stripper, a gigolo, anything?
	Can he go naked every day?
	No.
	But you can.
	Yes.
	And they have to be okay with it or not.
	And that's their decision, which makes my pool of men much smaller.
	And I acknowledge that and I accept that.
	So then your pool of men will be more high-valuable than and like I said, everyone at this table's definition of high value is completely different.
	So we can't use high value.
	So if you say that, I can't say, oh, yes, high value, high value.
	I'm explaining to you what my definition of high value.
	A high value man, to my opinion, is someone who will respect my work, respect my past, and still want to do that stuff for me.
	I can concede that the definitions that everybody will have of high value would be different, but you would also have to concede that there's going to be uniformities which are agreed upon about what is not high value.
	So for instance, let me give you an example of this in real time.
	At the table, raise your hand if a high-value man beats the shit out of you.
	Sorry, you said doesn't.
	My bad.
	No.
	Okay, so we can, so then we can rule many things out as at least not being that thing.
	Let's actually.
	So hang on, hang on, hang on.
	So if we can rule a bunch of things out that aren't the thing, I think we can at least get somewhat closer to the agreement of what the thing itself is.
	So when you're talking about high value, don't you think that society, especially women, would view men who have more money than men who have less money as being probably more valuable, all things equal.
	Meaning if they have the same looks, generally the same personality, one just happens to be far richer.
	Don't you think that one would be considered generally more high-valuable than the other by almost everybody's metric?
	I agree with you completely.
	And what's actually people don't realize or don't want to admit is that OnlyFans, girls, and strippers, we get the most high-value men approaching us.
	No, because they're paying you for a good time.
	Hang on, hang on.
	You're definitely not marrying them, and you're definitely not ending up with them, and you're def that's definitely not who you're you end up getting a ring from and living the happily ever after Julia Roberts' pretty woman life.
	I will agree.
	I will agree that for a time in your youth that many of what you would consider these traits for high value, you know, rich, handsome, this type of thing, probably do approach you around that age group.
	But I'm not sure what that proves exactly.
	So it proves that it means exactly.
	That story of that first date I went on where the guy brought me flowers on his birthday, five-star restaurant.
	I met him at the strip club.
	I've met his parents.
	He wants to pursue something serious with me.
	So your point is wrong.
	Well, no.
	Okay, well, how come then?
	I see so many tales of kind of former prostitutes and former strippers on panels like these, hundreds upon hundreds of them all across the world being interviewed by various people where they say, man, I really wish I hadn't done that because later in life brought my value down such that I could not net the thing that I truly wanted.
	When I was in my 20s, men would utilize this for their own gain, but they were never putting a ring on it.
	So the reason why they do that is because by doing OnlyFans or by being prostitutes, they did something that went against their morals and values.
	Me, I can sleep at night.
	I don't think they're doing, they're not talking about morals and values.
	Most of them are secularists, in fact.
	They don't have any objective morals or values.
	They just say the thing that I want to do is the problem and why they're unhappy in their lifestyle.
	I can sleep at night saying, I have not done anything that goes against my morals and values and I'm happy.
	And I have men who want to take a look at it.
	I'm not saying it's against your morals or your values, though.
	Yes, and I'm answering your question.
	The reason why so many girls...
	You haven't even heard my argument.
	How could you answer to it?
	Well, you said, why do so many girls on these panels who are ex-prostitutes or whatever.
	Your argument to that was to say it's because they did something which violated their morals or values.
	I'm telling you, no, they don't have any objective morals or values.
	They're saying this is fine within my moral paradigm.
	It's just that it made me miserable later in life because as it turns out, when you're 35 and you fuck 200 men and the beauty, which is now fleeted, most men look at that and go, well, I'd rather not have that, right?
	Well, that sucks for them.
	Do you still date that man because it gave you a bad thing?
	Do you disagree that it's true?
	You're still dating him, seriously.
	Yeah.
	Can I ask you to ask?
	My question is, disagree that it's true that men.
	Everything is a double standard.
	Can I explain it?
	No.
	Do I believe in it?
	Yes.
	So you just have cognitive dissonance, like you just kind of take it as it is.
	Yeah.
	I mean, if people think too fucking much about life and right and wrong and all this shit, just fucking do what makes you happy at the end of the day.
	Is that you?
	Said every serial killer ever?
	Erroneist.
	I didn't hear that.
	I'm sorry, should a serial killer be a serial killer because it makes them happy?
	As long as you're doing it doesn't affect other people.
	I don't think.
	A serial killer can be a good person.
	Yeah, but everything you do affects other people.
	Everything.
	I'm sorry.
	There's nothing you do which does not affect other people.
	Nothing.
	Right now you're speaking, that affects other people.
	Okay, you going to the grocery store, that affects other people.
	You having a job, it affects other people.
	You spending money, it affects other people.
	In a negative way.
	That everything you do doesn't affect other people.
	It's absurd.
	Everything you do.
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	Brixon, I see you brought the Brain Trust featuring Nicolette.
	Angelic will end up with Price Hubby.
	Nicolette, you will always be the disposable side chick.
	Doc, thank you for the TTS, man.
	Man, appreciate it.
	Nicolette, do you want to respond to Doc?
	Love you.
	Keep donating.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Thank you, Doc.
	appreciate it.
	Andrew, did you want to continue on with the...
	Yeah, I'd just like to point this out, that the idea that do whatever you want because it makes you happy as long as it doesn't affect other people, in and of itself is absurd because basically everything you do affects somebody else.
	I mean, almost everything I can think of really affects somebody else.
	So if that is the case, then doesn't it make it everybody's business what you do ultimately?
	Because it does have some effect on them.
	Well, clearly, you don't give a fuck what you do, how it affects other people, because you insulted me earlier by using a term I didn't even know.
	So you're a hypocrite once again.
	Yeah, but you said everybody's a hypocrite.
	You say the same thing.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So you're so if everybody's a hypocrite, it's meaningless, right?
	That's a meaningless term at that point.
	You're just saying all of us have, it's like saying everybody's a human.
	It just doesn't mean anything if all of us are human.
	Like, what does that mean?
	It's not saying anything anymore.
	And the reason you use an argument from hypocrisy is because you have no arguments.
	You don't even know it's fallacious.
	And so what you do is you use arguments from hypocrisy because you view hypocrisy as being like that of a thief or that of somebody who has nefarious intentions.
	And that's not even what it means.
	You don't even know what the hell you're talking about.
	So backing up real quick, even if I was a hypocrite, can you negate my argument or not?
	What is your argument?
	Because you want a little bit of a question.
	My argument is that everything people do affects other people.
	So just making the blanket statement, wait a second, you should be able to do whatever you want as long as it doesn't affect anybody, doesn't mean anything.
	Can I speak?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So as long as it doesn't affect people in a negative way.
	Yeah, but how do you make that determination?
	How do you make any determination of anything?
	That's what I'm asking.
	Well, I'm asking, I think we know how we make determinations of things.
	We would use intuition, feelings, logic, reason, all sorts of different things.
	And according to my feelings, reason, logic, I don't think what I'm doing is hurting other people except you because you seem really triggered right now.
	I seem triggered.
	You're the one who's freaking out.
	You've been freaking out.
	Like the entire panel, you've been freaking out.
	Maybe if I had a cigarette, I'd be disagreeable.
	And by the way, just saying you're freaking out, also not an argument.
	I wish you would actually respond to the argument.
	Do people not use intuition and logic and reason to make all sorts of judgment evaluations all the time?
	And often they're correct, right?
	I literally just addressed that.
	So the answer is yes, right?
	Yes.
	Yeah, so I mean, don't you think intuitively most people, for instance, wouldn't let their six-year-old watch your OnlyFans?
	Yes.
	Yeah, why?
	Because it's illegal.
	No, even if it was legal, do you think they would then?
	So that would go against my morals.
	Poor honest caller.
	That's not answering my question.
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	If I did one push-up every time the gun-tastic Nicolette said something profoundly idiotic, I'd look like Hercules by the end of the stream.
	Yeah, so, but this doesn't answer my question.
	I'm not asking if it's legal, and I'm not asking if it's moral.
	I'm asking if you think people would just let them do that because it was legal.
	Obviously, they wouldn't, right?
	Well, in other countries, six-year-olds are legal, and they're marrying adults.
	So, yeah, they probably would.
	That's not legal.
	Yeah, we're talking about here in the United States, the country that we're in.
	So you said it doesn't matter if it's illegal, right?
	Yeah, even if it was not illegal, most people would still not let their children watch your OnlyFans page, right?
	Well, that's probably not true because if you go to other countries.
	It's not true?
	He's talking about America.
	So wait, you think if it was not a crime?
	So you wait.
	I just want to make sure I got this right.
	If it wasn't a crime, you think most mothers would allow their six-year-olds to watch your OnlyFans.
	I just want to make sure we got this clear.
	Well, a lot of mothers in other countries marry off their six-year-olds.
	No, mothers in other countries aren't letting their six-year-olds watch OnlyFans.
	What fucking delusional shit and what type of methamphetamine are you smoking that you think in other countries mothers are letting their children watch OnlyFans girls?
	Where did you come up with this bullshit?
	I'm not saying it's right, but by your logic, you're saying, Oh, if it wasn't illegal in other countries where shit is not illegal, that's illegal here, they're doing good shit.
	I just said, for example, marrying off their six-year-olds.
	Yeah, that's that's a completely distinct argument from this one that I'm making.
	Do you think that in other countries, even other countries, that if it were legal for mothers to allow their six, seven, eight-year-olds to watch your OnlyFans, that they would do that?
	That they'd be like, Sure, little Johnny.
	Yes or no?
	Would they allow them to?
	Is that the question?
	Yeah, would they allow them to?
	No.
	Well, then there's some kind of shared intuition here for how you are negatively affecting tons and tons and tons of people.
	Because if your assumption is that little Johnny would, if mommy didn't say no, then your intuition is saying that you have a negative impact, isn't it?
	Well, according to my knowledge, feelings, and reasons, I'm not aware of any six-year-olds watching my OnlyFans.
	And if they are, that says a lot to speak about the mother and the parents who are not watching their child well enough.
	Yeah, right, but they shouldn't be, right?
	They shouldn't be doing that.
	They shouldn't be because my content is under a paywall where you have to be 18 years old and have an eye on it.
	Yeah, right.
	I get that.
	But what I'm saying is that there's a shared intuition there then that you share with them.
	And so this has an effect on all of you doing your OnlyFans, in other words, has an effect on people because if nobody did OnlyFans, no mother anywhere would have to worry about little Johnny watching OnlyFans, right?
	Well, if you want to put it that way, I think everything in life is about intent.
	My intent is not for little Johnny to be jacking off to my OnlyFans, it's for little Johnny's dad to be jacking off to my OnlyFans.
	Oh, what a fantastic argument.
	My intent when I was drunk driving wasn't to mow down that family with my car, so therefore I didn't do anything wrong, right?
	I mean, if you want to, oh, you're right, you're right, you're right.
	We're not getting anywhere with this conversation.
	No, I think we will.
	So, one more time, following your logic, then, if I was a drunk driver and said wasn't my intent to hit anybody, and I did, I didn't do anything wrong, right?
	Because everything's about intent, right?
	Wait, say that again?
	Your logic, your argument to me, was I think everything revolves around intent, everything is intent-based.
	So, if that is the case, and if I was a drunk driver and mowed down an entire family, well, I didn't actually do anything wrong because that wasn't my intent, right?
	Well, you could say that for everyone at this table.
	Everything has everyone has done things unintentionally to hurt other people.
	Yes, but you know what they usually do?
	You know what non-psychopathic, non-narcissistic, non-lunatics do?
	They do something unintentionally to hurt other people and they know that they've hurt another person, they usually do something about that so that they don't hurt people in the future, except you know, prostitutes, OnlyFans, women, people who make post hoc justifications for the horrible things that they do, which is horrible for all of society.
	They just make what I call cope arguments, where they say, No, it's okay because I'm not hurting anybody, even though obviously they share the same intuitions that I do.
	That's bad for society.
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	All this talk about serial killing is making me hungry.
	Where's my bowl?
	No, officer, I was not stabbing that man to death.
	My intention was to just get some of his blood for a science project.
	Right, it's all about intent.
	Yeah, thank you, Killer Cereal, for the TTS, man.
	I appreciate it.
	Do you have you want to continue, Andrew?
	Or do you have more?
	No, we could move the combo from here.
	Sure, sure.
	We were talking about who should pay on dates.
	I will maybe we'll come back to that a little bit later.
	But going back to your notes, Jamie, you said that, let's see.
	Also, how a woman dresses directly correlates to how she's viewed in society.
	A lot of women don't seem to understand this, and it's a pressing topic.
	To be viewed as a respectable member of society, we should accordingly.
	And I think it ends there.
	Yes, if we want to be viewed in a respectful manner by anyone, not just men, but women as well, we should dress respectfully.
	Everyone has a choice, but I just choose to dress respectfully.
	Huh.
	Okay, so you mean dress like modestly?
	Yes.
	Here, I'll read chats while you guys are playing musical chairs.
	There we have Pelagic Six, giving the narcissist what they want.
	They feed off your emotion.
	Are you a narcissist, Nicolette?
	Is that what you're what he's saying?
	I don't know.
	Are you talking about Nicolette?
	Pelagicist?
	So narcissists, they don't give a shit about other people's feelings, in my opinion.
	That's like the correct definition, right?
	It's all about them, nobody else?
	I guess.
	Yeah, I think that that's a fair definition.
	I wouldn't call her a narcissist.
	Yeah, I don't think I'm a narcissist.
	I genuinely, I mean, it sounds kind of like, oh, if you say you're empathetic, like people who are empathetic don't have to say it.
	But in this case, I'm empathetic as fuck.
	Like I really am.
	You're a fucking liar!
	You're a fucking liar!
	I am.
	So I wouldn't consider myself a narcissist at all.
	I'm very confident, but I'm not a narcissist.
	I wouldn't say you're a narcissist more than like, not just you specifically, but like people in general are very self-seeking.
	And like, I think that when we don't have like a view of God and like a way that we should live, like people will live for themselves and how to get ahead in life.
	A lot of things are very transactional.
	And we want to see what we can get out of people and we just live however we feel like and what we want to and then see what can profit us around us.
	Are you not scared of dating this man you met at a strip club?
	Because he has a little bit of an obsession with you because he met you at a strip club.
	He's paying for you, maybe paying for your page.
	Is that not a little bit scary as well?
	Because why would he like pay for you at the strip club everywhere?
	Take you out there.
	Is that a little bit like an obsession?
	I'm never scared.
	Like, oh my god, he's not seeing me for me, but like me for everything.
	So I'm actually not scared of him at all.
	Anytime we've ever gone on a date, I don't wear makeup.
	Like, so it's not that I give out this idea.
	Oh, you know, I'm a stripper or whatever.
	I met you there, so he knows.
	Right.
	He knows that I'm a stripper.
	But I'm saying I don't like portray myself as that way.
	What was your question?
	Am I scared of him?
	No.
	No, because he dated you out of like an obsession way, right?
	You met you at the strip club, you're paying for your page.
	Well, any man that I date, I want him to be obsessed with me.
	That is a little bit narcissistic.
	Now, I will say that.
	Me or her.
	No.
	The obsession and like wanting your partner to be obsessed with you.
	And I want to be obsessed with my partner too.
	But like in the environment you met and that's a little bit scary now, right?
	Not to me.
	In fact, the men that I've dated in that environment, they treat me way better than the guys that I've met not in that environment.
	Because they know my standard.
	Ron Biggs says, 33M, 50K year, secular seeking trad relationship.
	My salary isn't enough to fully support to fully support a family if my girlfriend has to work to.
	Can I still expect trad behavior?
	First date tomorrow since my ex-fiancé cheated five years ago.
	What is traditional life?
	Traditional.
	Traditional.
	I say, yeah.
	I say that, like, you know, if someone's really in it because they love you and you have good morals and like they're in the relationship, then yeah, and you got to make ends meet.
	You got to meet, you got to figure it out.
	You know, you have to, you should, she should work as well if you have to.
	And what I will say is, yes, I'm talking all this shit about what I want.
	Have I ever experienced that where a man pays my rent, my car?
	No, I haven't.
	But I still see them.
	So.
	But you have not experienced that?
	Where they pay my rent, my car?
	No.
	Okay.
	They pay for the dinners.
	They'll give me money to buy shit.
	But I still see them.
	And if they didn't do that, if they at least pay for the date, I'm okay with that.
	Andrew, did you get the last message that came through?
	Do you have a thought on this?
	Can he still expect trad behavior?
	Can you pull it up?
	I want to make sure that I get it correct.
	Yeah, 33 male, 50K a year.
	Oh, okay.
	Sorry, secular.
	Seeking trad relationships.
	Salary isn't enough.
	To fully support the family.
	If my girlfriend has to work too, I can still expect trad behavior.
	Yeah, I'm not, I think I would have to ask him a couple of questions to clarify what this position is.
	But yeah, I think I don't see why you couldn't.
	I don't see why you couldn't expect.
	I don't think that all women are necessarily shallow and just kind of like evil bitches, right?
	I think there's plenty of women who aren't and that they reject materialism as a whole.
	Though I think that you have to hunt, that they're few and far between.
	But there seems to be plenty of red flags that can be pointed out so that you can make those determinations moving in to kind of match those preferences.
	Can I also comment on whenever you're going on dates, like and that man wants like a trad wife, even though he's not making a lot of money, like usually we know that if we see that that man is working extremely hard, even though he's not making a lot of money, typically if the woman has a baby, like the man usually increases his income by a ton just because that like provider comes out.
	Yeah, you're touching on an important point.
	Homath recently made a video about this.
	For those of you who don't know, you should go subscribe to that channel.
	He's a great satirical YouTuber, but he also is trying to make a demonstration of logical arguments via mathematics, which is a lot of fun to watch because he visually demonstrates them.
	But he points this out that one of the things that's often missed by modern women is the idea of potentiality.
	Like these men would give you what it is that they want or that you want.
	They're just not in a position yet to do it, but they're working towards being in a position to do it.
	And so you should net those men early if you can, and yet they're kind of rejected based on the fact that they can't do it right now.
	And I think that that's a good point.
	And that's kind of the one that you're making, right?
	Right.
	Like what I looked for in a man to marry was not money, it was more of his ambition.
	Because if he didn't have money, that's fine.
	But if he had ambition, I knew that he would take care of me no matter what.
	And it did, it happened.
	Exactly what I said happened.
	My husband didn't make a lot of money whatsoever.
	He comes from a family that is their missionary, so they don't have any money.
	And basically we got married and we started having kids.
	And my husband was very stressed for a while and his income grew and grew and grew.
	And I have the option to be not grew and grew like that.
	But just like, you know, if I wanted to be a stay-at-home mom, like I have the option to.
	So the potential for that to happen was there.
	Correct.
	And so I think that that's what the demonstration of his point is.
	So often would have like 20-year-old, 25-year-old, even 26, 27, 28, 29, they're probably not going to be very established until they reach their 30s and their 40s.
	They're just really probably not.
	It's very difficult to do at a young age because you're getting experience in the workplace and it takes a while to build up to that.
	So you might have a life for the first five, six, seven, eight, nine years with your significant other before you start really reaping the rewards.
	That's life.
	Yeah, I think as long as you recognize the discipline, the hard work, the commitment, I think that's really all that matters and you support him on his way up.
	Okay, so going back to you, you said that how a woman dresses directly correlates to how she's viewed in society.
	So you're talking about dressing modestly, right?
	Okay.
	I did see something on your TikTok, though.
	Nick, could you pull up her TikTok?
	Pull it up.
	That I thought was, I think Andrew will find it potentially interesting too.
	Is it me or is it wrong?
	No, it's not that.
	Nick, the first pinned one?
	First off.
	Yes.
	Oh, wait.
	No audio.
	Mute audio, please.
	I think the sound's off.
	Okay.
	You don't even need to play it.
	Or might be controversial, but God doesn't care what you wear, who you love, or what music you listen to.
	Humans just wrote those rules to upkeep social order.
	So I'm detecting.
	I gotta say, this was before I studied the Bible.
	This was like four months ago.
	Wait, hold on.
	This is April.
	But it's pinned.
	It's pinned on her profile.
	That's a good point, Nicolette.
	Good catch, Nicolette.
	Very observant.
	Hold on.
	But I guess I'm detecting a little bit of contradiction here because, on one hand, in your pre-show notes, you say how woman dresses directly correlates.
	Wait, does that say I love God still?
	I just don't claim religion anymore.
	Yeah, this was when I was like, I was going through it, and then I strayed away from the church, and I went to this church of all religions.
	Oh, sorry.
	I strayed away from the Christian church and I went to a church of all religions.
	Unitarian?
	Yes, Universalist Unitarian Church.
	And then I went there for about like three weeks and kind of got this idea of like religious rules don't matter.
	Taking a shot.
	Take one for me, Andrew.
	So, okay, religious rules don't matter.
	But before, hold on.
	Before, Andrew, before we dive into the religious component, can you clarify the contradiction?
	So in your pre-show notes, you say how a woman dresses directly correlates to how she's viewed in society.
	And it seems like you're a proponent of dressing modestly.
	Yes, I am a proponent of.
	Yes.
	But, however, in your TikTok from just a few months ago, you say, Nick, pull it up really quick.
	God doesn't care what you wear.
	So I assume this is kind of coming from the angle of God doesn't care if you dress immodestly.
	Is that a correct assessment?
	In that TikTok, yes, but I would say my views have changed since then.
	Okay.
	Then why is it still pinned?
	You should probably unpin that.
	I probably should.
	Sassy.
	But I just pin my most viewed TikToks because to the top of my page.
	I should actually not unpin it.
	I should just delete it.
	Okay, so you're not my belief.
	Okay, so your opinions changed on this.
	My opinions have changed on this.
	Sure.
	I've become more of a traditionalist in recent months.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, all right, chat.
	Everyone want to keep an eye on her TikTok.
	See if she deletes it.
	Yeah, keep an eye on my TikTok.
	It's Venus Being if you want to follow.
	Would you say that you were on a spiritual journey?
	Back then, yeah.
	But now I'm just more into the Christian church and all that.
	I went to a church of all religions for like my entire life, pretty much.
	But lately, I've been getting closer to God and wanting to be more in the Christian church.
	And yes.
	So to kind of caveat, I want to make sure I get these views down.
	Yes.
	You do think that God does care who you love.
	God cares how you dress, I believe.
	Yeah, but that was only one part.
	You said that.
	And I mean, so I would agree with you.
	I mean, Deuteronomy speaks to this specifically, but I'm asking, does God care who you love?
	Like, in gay relationships?
	Oh, I didn't specifically say that.
	I'm just asking, does he care?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So in order to adhere to Christian ethics, who you love and what you wear does actually matter.
	Definitely.
	Okay.
	And I should definitely delete that TikTok.
	Okay.
	Be watching that.
	Be watching.
	Yeah.
	You guys can all watch it, though, before I delete it.
	All right.
	We'll get back to some of your other notes a little bit later on in the show.
	You did say you've been celibate, celibate for six years.
	Did you used to be politics-wise, would you describe yourself as a bit more conservative?
	Yes.
	Did you used to be a bit more on the liberal side?
	Yes, definitely.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And what have you always been like?
	So you're Christian-ish now?
	I would say I'm way more, I'm Christian.
	Okay.
	But I was going to like Church of All Religions.
	Yeah.
	So we like talked about all different types of religious text.
	Right.
	And kind of the main theme of them all is just loving thy neighbor, pretty much.
	Sure, but so.
	But now I'm strictly Christian.
	You weren't always celibate, though.
	No.
	Okay.
	So why did you decide to go celibate?
	Because I want to save myself.
	And I think it's an all-out negative for me.
	Well, if you're saved, you're saved.
	What?
	If you're saved, you're saved.
	Thank you.
	I think she's talking about saving herself from marriage.
	Like, yes.
	Oh, okay.
	If you're saved, you're saved, huh?
	Well, that's what I thought she was talking about.
	That's funny.
	We have Michael here.
	Build your man up.
	You know what?
	Actually, wait, I'm going to designate an official message reader.
	Anissa?
	Did I say right?
	Yeah.
	I'm going to have you read the message.
	Go ahead.
	Build your man up.
	Me and my wife.
	Met my wife when I had no education.
	She helped me get a bachelor's and two masters now.
	Making.
	I'll pull it right back up.
	It fell off one sec.
	Making a seven-figure salary.
	Look for the potential in a partner, not what they currently do.
	Michael, thank you very much for the message.
	Appreciate it.
	Build your man up.
	Build your man up.
	Hmm.
	Now he's making a seven-figure salary.
	So that's good.
	Congrats, Michael.
	Let's see.
	We have a couple soup chats we'll read.
	Oops, hold on.
	We have Michael Arnoth.
	God damn.
	Life ain't gonna end well for Gunt Dracula.
	What?
	Keep donating, baby.
	Keep fucking donating.
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	Thank you, Michael.
	Appreciate the soup chat, man.
	We have Pelagic.
	I have your back, Brian.
	If you're feeling attacked on the personal level, you express your opinion about that, and then people turn your opinion back on you, onto you, to tell you that you are crazy or bad for sharing that opinion.
	That is gaslighting.
	Okay, Pelagic, thank you for the Merriam-Webster definition of gaslighting.
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	Let's see here.
	We're going to go.
	We'll do Stiffler.
	Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
	You can't pick seven, starting with Nicolette.
	Okay, so ten.
	Ten?
	Okay.
	All right.
	And then we're going to start here and then go around the table.
	Go ahead.
	I'll say nine.
	Nine?
	Okay.
	Five.
	Can I say seven and a half?
	Can't pick seven.
	So it can't be eight.
	Okay.
	Six.
	All right.
	Eight.
	Okay.
	We know you're a ten, Nicolette.
	Okay.
	I think I'm a four, but when I'm skinny, I'm an eight.
	Okay.
	Eight.
	Six.
	Eight.
	I give myself a five.
	Andrew, what about you?
	I'm a four.
	Okay.
	There you go, Andrew.
	There we go.
	Nicolette, still.
	Didn't you go down a nine?
	I did because I said I was a nine.
	Thank you for remembering.
	Yep.
	Last time I said that because I've been on the show enough times to know it's a trick question.
	It's not a trick question.
	Anyone who rates himself a 10, your argument, oh, so that means there's no room for improvement to be better.
	So they're going to get fine.
	I'll do nine.
	I'll play into the show.
	But now I'm like, fuck it.
	I think I'm a 10.
	And yes, there's room for improvement.
	That still doesn't mean I'm a 10.
	If I get hotter, I'll be a 10 and a half.
	If I got even hotter than that, I'll be an 11.
	Don't make her cry.
	And then 11.
	And then the 11.
	I said, if I were to improve.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What were you before the lip filler?
	Oh, before the lip filler and nose job.
	That was the bigger one.
	That was the bigger one.
	Yeah.
	I was like an eight.
	Okay.
	Going around the table once more then.
	Wait, Nicolette, what do you rate me?
	I'm just curious.
	I think you're an eight, Brian.
	Okay.
	Maybe even an eight and a half.
	Oh, wow.
	Not counting personality, though.
	That brings it down.
	That's fair.
	All right.
	So going around the table once more, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time, starting with Nicolette?
	I do, because in 10 years I'll be 34.
	And in my opinion, women in their 30s are at their peak.
	Okay.
	So that's my opinion.
	And then 20 years' time.
	So what about 44?
	No.
	Okay, so you'll peak at 34 or in your 30s.
	Okay.
	And then I'll get uglier and my 40s.
	One quick point of clarification.
	You said you're 10, but you're going to be better looking at 34.
	Yeah.
	So then you're not a 10 now.
	So you just proved why I said I was a nine last time.
	What the?
	That doesn't even make any sense.
	Because I'm playing into your show, okay?
	What do you mean?
	You're playing.
	I don't know.
	Because that's exactly what I said you were going to say.
	I know how the show works.
	Yeah, I mean, figure it out.
	But even if that was true, when you're not going to be able to do it, it doesn't make it any less valuable to note what you personally assess yourself as looks-wise.
	So that might be the opposite sex.
	In my 30s, I'll be an 11, Brian.
	Just keep watching.
	Okay.
	Every time I come on the show, I think I get hotter.
	Sorry.
	Seriously, go back to my first episode.
	You know what?
	That's a great episode.
	When watch your first episode, pull up.
	It's Old Kiko and with the rage quit.
	Yes.
	How long was that?
	Nick, Dating Talk 33.
	That's probably like what, over a year ago?
	A year ago?
	No, it's like two years.
	Yeah, it was like two years ago.
	Dating Talk 33.
	Was that 33?
	Before after your plastic surgery?
	That was after my plastic surgery.
	Yep.
	That was a good show.
	It was such a good show.
	Such a good show.
	Such a good show.
	We'll pull it up.
	We'll do a before and after, I guess.
	All right, zoom in.
	I'm ready for my close-up.
	We should get Kiko back on the show.
	We should get Chase.
	We need Andrew and Kiko on the show.
	No, you should get Mary back on the show.
	We've had her back on.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	You can pull it up.
	Let's see.
	Did you give yourself a 10 at a time?
	See, I think I'm hotter now.
	Okay.
	How old were you then?
	I was like, what?
	If that was two years ago, I was 22.
	Throwback.
	Look at that wood table.
	Okay.
	And the surfboard.
	All right.
	Zoom in on me now.
	But like, I mean, has question though: have there been any changes?
	Yes, I've gained weight in my ass and everywhere else, and my hair is longer.
	And just look at me.
	Oh, that's true.
	Okay, yeah, that's cool.
	I think I'm hotter now.
	Chat, what do you guys?
	What do you guys think?
	Yes, chat.
	What do you guys think?
	What do you guys think?
	Anyways, going around the table, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
	I don't think so, but I'm hoping to stay the same.
	Sure.
	Yes.
	So better looking at 38 as compared to now at 28?
	Yes.
	What about 20 years' time?
	No.
	Okay.
	You're 21, better looking in 10 years' time?
	No.
	Wait, was that a yes or a no?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	It was like a yin no.
	All right.
	You're 26, better looking at 36 or now at 26.
	It's hard to say because beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but for the most part, I think a 26-year-old would be more attractive than it.
	So no.
	Sure.
	What about you?
	Yes.
	All right.
	So better looking at 29 than now at 19.
	What about 20 years' time?
	So 39?
	Yes.
	49?
	Yeah.
	59?
	Yeah.
	69?
	Yeah.
	79.
	I think I'll keep getting for a year.
	89.
	99?
	Some people have a gill fetish.
	That's like a G.
	I took some milk.
	Oh, gill.
	109?
	Asian don't reason.
	But you're half Mexican.
	It pulls through.
	No, it's still, I mean, look, you're not wrong.
	I would say Asian women do tend to age fairly well, but 79?
	I think I'll still look good.
	Well, okay, just one point of clarification.
	So it's not like you can still be attractive as you get older, but it's more sort of a comparison between how you look right now as compared to in 10, 20, 30, 40 years.
	I think I'll think of myself as pretty as I am then compared to now.
	Okay.
	Wait, you'll think of yourself as like I wouldn't think I was prettier back then.
	I would still consider myself pretty.
	Well, let me ask it this way then.
	Let's say you stay single for your whole life.
	I'm not saying that's going to be the case, but let's say it is.
	When it comes to your dating prospects, do you think your dating prospects will be better now at 19 than you at 79?
	Yeah.
	Better now?
	Probably, yeah.
	What about 29?
	Better at 29?
	Yeah, probably.
	Than now at 19?
	Yeah.
	Better at 39?
	Or it starts to dwindle?
	I feel like it'll start to dwindle.
	Okay.
	Nicolette, you already answered.
	What about you?
	Better looking in 10 years' time?
	Yes.
	Okay, and you're 30, right?
	I'm 30, so it would be a lot.
	So better looking at 40 than you are now at 30?
	Yes.
	And then better looking at 50?
	No.
	Okay.
	And then were you better looking at 20 than you are now at 30?
	A lot more.
	Yeah.
	You are prettier.
	At 20.
	At 20.
	I see.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I feel like I would stay the same.
	You're 21, correct?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So better stay the same at 31.
	What about 41?
	Yeah.
	51?
	61?
	Yes.
	71?
	Yep.
	81?
	91?
	Yeah.
	101?
	Mm-hmm.
	1,000?
	She's a vampire.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	Well, you don't think you're going to age.
	Asian don't raise in and black don't crack.
	Yeah, I've heard that.
	But you still age.
	But better?
	Like wine.
	You can age beautifully.
	Look, again, you can still be attractive as you get older, but he's just mad because he's white and he's going to age like milk.
	What the fuck?
	I think men age like wine.
	You look pretty white.
	What do you say?
	He said, you look white.
	I'm not.
	Well, you look white.
	You just like, is it just all makeup that makes you look white then?
	No, I'm naturally very light skinned.
	I'm half Portuguese, which is Spaniard, which I guess is European.
	Wait, Portugal isn't.
	Portuguese anyway.
	Portuguese mostly European.
	What are you talking about?
	But like she said, the Mexican side just takes over.
	Yeah, but that's why my ass is so fat.
	Hang on.
	No, no, no.
	Listen, so that you understand, you can be a white Mexican.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	There's a distinction between a mestizo and a white Mexican.
	There's a big distinction between the two.
	One is mixed.
	So Mexico's mostly mestizo, that's true, but there's plenty of white Mexicans.
	I think Andrew likes me.
	That's why he keeps peeking on me.
	I think that you just need to respond to what's being said.
	Stop obfuscating.
	So can you respond to what I said?
	Well, I'm half white, but Portuguese is Spaniard, like their native language is Portuguese.
	You mean Europe?
	Where's Spain?
	Can you tell me what we already addressed?
	What continent is Spain in?
	We already addressed that, Andrew.
	And what I'm saying is that what continent is Spain is in.
	When you say Europe, that's it.
	I don't know.
	Don't care.
	What all I'm saying is that Brian's all white.
	Continent Spain is on?
	Okay.
	Laugh harder.
	I've been laughing the entire evening.
	It turns me on.
	Keep going.
	So everything is always going to be reduced back to sexuality.
	We're here for people's entertainment.
	You got to make them laugh.
	You can't be so serious all the time.
	Laughing their asses off, just not with you.
	I didn't hear him.
	Stop it.
	Get some help.
	Okay, next.
	Where were we going?
	Oh, I think we left off with you.
	So, better looking or the same at 100 as compared to now at 21.
	Okay.
	I'm really health conscious, so probably I'll still probably look good in my 30s and 40s.
	But, you know, it'll start to dwindle probably.
	You know, wrinkles, everything, it all comes, you know.
	Sure.
	What about you?
	Better looking at 35 than now at 25?
	I say I'll probably stay the same, and then around 40, so I'll dwindle.
	Okay.
	Andrew, what about you?
	You're going to be better looking in 10 years' time?
	Oh, absolutely.
	Wait, can we show young Andrew?
	Let's pull up.
	Can we find it?
	Do we still have it?
	Yes.
	Let's see how much he's dwindled.
	I can pull it up.
	I don't think he has.
	I'll show a video of young Brian flexing in the mirror for Ethereum.
	Yes.
	For an ETH.
	I'll do it.
	I want to see.
	Chill out.
	I'm scared to compliment you right now.
	Chill out, dude.
	Get your mind out of the gutter.
	Look at this gig of Chad.
	Very handsome.
	By the way, Andrew, it's a little hard to tell because we're zoomed, but all the girls just like cracked a little smile when they saw it.
	It's AI.
	It's AI.
	It's all AI.
	No, very handsome.
	Very handsome.
	Yeah, AI made me look very good looking.
	It was very nice of AI to do that.
	Yeah.
	So did Andrew answer?
	Did you get to answer, Andrew?
	Yeah, I said, yeah, I think I'll be better looking in 10 years than I am now.
	Okay.
	What about 20?
	20 years, Andrew?
	Yep.
	How long do you think?
	To infinity.
	I think I'll be 95 years old and I'll still be better looking than I am now because I need to join the delusional trends of everybody else.
	And I have determined that it's really all about how you feel about you rather than what is objective.
	What is objective when it comes to how you actually look?
	It's really just how you feel.
	Well, a confident five is much more attractive than an insecure five.
	A confident five.
	I have literally a video of me like 250 pounds compared to when I was 100.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Can we back up real quick?
	A confident five is still more appealing than a non-confident five.
	It's still a five.
	I would agree, but they're both fucking fives, right?
	Yes, but you're more.
	Okay, well then all we're asking is what makes them a five.
	Even so you just took two personality traits which were in opposition and then said they're still both looks-wise a five, which means you can differentiate between how my feelings operate and what is objectively true.
	So what makes them both a five?
	Is it because they're both fucking ugly or average or whatever?
	Like what makes them a five?
	Well, I guess they're just fucking average at that point.
	Yeah, they're just fucking average, right?
	That's fine.
	But when we're asking about looks assessment, we're not asking about how you feel.
	So how you feel about you doesn't matter.
	If I feel like a tent, it doesn't make me a fucking 10.
	It just means I feel like one.
	So a five.
	I feel like the king of France, right?
	Does it make me the king of France?
	A five who dresses like the basket case and, for example, Breakfast Club, that's just a fucking below tier five.
	But a five who dresses like, what's a girl from 16 Candles?
	There you're right.
	Breakfast Club.
	Wait, why?
	You guys didn't watch her?
	The popular girl?
	Yeah, sure.
	Okay, so obviously she's going to be the more attractive five.
	Sure, but they're both fives.
	You don't get it.
	A confidence is fine.
	Yeah, but no, I get it.
	Fine, but they're both fives.
	Confidence can add an extra point or two.
	Okay, I will even concede that that's true.
	That with confidence, a five can become a six, but there still seems like there's some type of objective standard that you're appealing to for what a five is what an average man is.
	So what does an average man kind of look like?
	Me?
	See, you're right.
	I'm appealing to this conversation to entertain the show and to be respectful.
	In my real life, I don't fucking rate people.
	I think we're all tens.
	Oh, really?
	You don't, huh?
	So let me just ask you.
	I just want to be very clear on this.
	And you can lie to me because most women do when I ask them this question.
	When you sit down at a table filled with other women, you don't inside your head judge them on their looks or the clothes that they're wearing or the type of lashes that they have or the kind of nails that they're wearing.
	You don't do any of that, right?
	Not you.
	You're a fucking angel, right?
	You don't ever do that.
	So you're helping my point.
	How they're dressed.
	How they're dressed, how they carry themselves, how they do their nails.
	You want to answer my question.
	Do you, when you sit at a table full of women, do exactly what I just said and judge all sorts of little details in your head, even though you'd never say them out loud?
	I don't, because when I came in this room, I addressed everyone.
	Hello, everyone.
	Nice to meet you.
	Like, I think we're all beautiful.
	We're all women.
	And the fact that we're all here, that is confident.
	And that is a 10 in my eyes.
	Sorry, don't.
	Fair enough.
	So let me just ask the male this question.
	Just a quick show of hands.
	How many of you either know women, even if you're not willing to admit that you're one of them, who when they sit at a table filled with other women, make value judgments about all sorts of things?
	Their hair, their lashes, their breast size, everything.
	And you endlessly compare yourself to them and think that they probably compare themselves to you.
	Just a quick show of hands.
	You want to go around the table?
	Yeah, just a quick show of hands.
	How many?
	Yeah, basically all of you.
	But you didn't do that, right?
	You didn't do that.
	No, I refuse to do that because when I was younger, like a teenager, I was very insecure.
	I wasn't as outgoing and confident as I am now.
	So who am I and how dare I judge someone based on their looks?
	It doesn't mean that you don't do it.
	I think it's just a biological thing.
	Like, it's not like I'm looking at someone like, oh, wow, they're so ugly.
	I'm so much better than them.
	But we look at, you know, their hair, how they're presenting themselves.
	Sure.
	We just make, it's called a value judgment.
	Yeah, that's exactly right.
	It's a value judgment.
	I completely agree with what you just said.
	It's a value judgment.
	I tend to do that.
	You sit down and you make value judgments.
	And why wouldn't you, right?
	The way that we judge value of other human beings is through making value judgments.
	And we create, we're pattern recognition machines, right?
	So I forgot who said this earlier, but I'm not sure.
	I'll respond to her real quick.
	She's absolutely right when she says that we are all making value judgments on basically everything all the time.
	So I always find it really, really hard to believe when a woman says, I'm the only one sitting at this table who made zero value judgments about another woman sitting at this table.
	Am I the only one?
	Well, you'd have to be like basically a monk.
	Yeah, well, that's a good question.
	Are you the only one?
	Are you the only one?
	I don't know, Amma.
	Do you guys do that?
	I believe comparison is the thief of joy.
	So like if I look at someone and I start to maybe form an opinion, like I'll quickly be self-aware and like take myself out of that mindset because I don't think it's healthy.
	Doesn't mean that I don't, I'm not admitting that like I don't do it at all.
	Like obviously it's like a subconscious thing when you see someone, but I recognize and I'm self-aware.
	I'm like, hey, let me not do that.
	Sure, sure.
	Yeah, there's no problem with you saying it's a problem for me doing this.
	But that's not really to the heart of the question.
	To the heart of the question is, don't you do it though?
	Everybody does it.
	I do it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, y'all do it.
	So, I mean, the thing is, is like, all I ever ask is that women are just honest that they do that.
	And most of them are not, right?
	And so, until pressed, and then we go, okay, yeah, I actually do do that.
	It's like, okay, well.
	That makes me sad to know that the women at this table do that.
	But they say I'm not sure.
	Oh, yeah, you're so shy.
	I didn't know anything about how winning operated before you came on the whatever podcast.
	You had no clue that women made value judgments about each other all the fucking time.
	You had no clue that this was the case, right?
	Well, obviously, I know that they do that, but I just like to like, I don't like to think about that, like, oh, I'm being judged right now at this table of other beautiful women.
	It's not always negative.
	And she's saying, she's saying when it comes into her, it's subconscious, and when it comes into her conscious, she's, you know, thinking about it, obviously, like, but so, for example, like in the perspective that I do it, can I, if I can give an example, like, for example, with you, you, whenever we met each other, obviously I have judgments.
	It's not in a negative way.
	You told me what you did for work.
	And I'm always careful when, because I'm a Christian.
	And so if you're going to tell me that what you do for work, I'm very careful with what I say because I don't want someone to automatically think she's a Christian, she's going to judge me.
	And in fact, it's great that you do judge people.
	You like have great conversations with them whenever you get to know them, especially the first thing you get to know is what they're wearing.
	So if I knew what she did for work, I can ask her like, what does she do?
	Like, I find interest.
	And then just based off of how women dress, how they do their hair, I can start conversations with absolutely anybody just based off how they look.
	So I'm judging them, but not in a way to in a negative way.
	But it's just a matter of time.
	Yeah, no, I think it is in a negative way.
	I think that we make value judgments in a negative way non-stop, even if we don't think that we do.
	So for instance, you're walking down the street late at night and five men you don't know are walking down the street towards you.
	Would you cross the street?
	That's what I was about to say.
	I have a double standard and I do judge men.
	I do have value judgments against them.
	Not women.
	Against men.
	Against men.
	I mean, I mean, wouldn't you cross the street?
	But that's a value, and that's a value judgment, right?
	Yeah.
	Because it protects you.
	So, I mean, the thing is that you're making value judgments non-stop every day, and a lot of them are for the purpose of survival.
	And so, since that is the case, and that's hardwired into you, why wouldn't you make value judgments about appearance?
	Why wouldn't you make value judgments about things that you see patterns in?
	For instance, people who generally aren't taking good care of themselves, they could look very nefarious to you.
	And generally speaking, you're probably right.
	You're probably right.
	And so, that's why those value judgments are there.
	You're trailing off.
	First, we were talking about looks.
	Yeah, I know, but it's all intertwined to the idea of a value judgment.
	I think that the looks value judgment is based around women competing with each other.
	And so, if they're going to compete with each other, if another woman is doing something that they think makes them more attractive and would look good on them, they will adopt that thing.
	That is a value judgment.
	Or if a woman sees that another woman doesn't do the thing that they think would make them more attractive, that is also a value judgment, right?
	All of those are value judgments.
	So, I forget if I've used this example here before, but I don't think any woman is in competition with any other woman because one person's a fucking steak, the other person's Chinese food.
	Both are great, right?
	But then you judge them.
	But some people just want steak and they don't want Chinese food.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, let's find out if you're not.
	You do judge them on that face.
	Let's find out if that's true.
	So, so just a quick show of hands on the panel, including you, who just made the case for this.
	If you found two men and they were equal in almost always, they were equal in looks, they had equal money, they had equal everything, they equally treated you well, but one was six foot two and the other one was five foot four.
	Would you prefer the six foot two man show of hands?
	That's a total.
	One are we preferring?
	Oh, you would.
	You'd prefer the six foot two man, all things.
	Yeah, that's so weird.
	Yeah, but I just said, I do value judgment men.
	I already said that.
	That's right.
	Well, you're making value.
	So the point is, though, is that you're making value judgments based around universal preferences.
	And the universal preference is that you would prefer your men to be taller than you.
	So if one is shorter than you, 5'4, another one's taller than you, 6'2, you would prefer the one who's 6'2.
	Is it a value assessment based on a universal preference?
	5'4 is still taller than me, and so it doesn't really fucking matter.
	My last, my second.
	Why'd you raise your hand for the 6'2?
	Because I would still prefer them.
	Right.
	So you made a universal value judgment.
	There you go.
	Against men, which I already said I do.
	It's not against men.
	This is a value judgment for you.
	Your first example.
	Your first example of value judgment was if I sit down with a table of women, am I going to judge them?
	Oh, her outfit's fucked up.
	Her nails aren't done.
	Her hair is ugly.
	No, I don't do that.
	But judging.
	Well, to some degree.
	So hang on.
	He said, though, that's what he's saying.
	Let's untangle two different ideas here.
	Idea one, it doesn't mean in your head you're brutal about it, right?
	But you are making value judgments and value assessments.
	If another woman has, for instance, what you think is a cute outfit, will you go buy that cute outfit?
	Yeah.
	Would I go buy her cute outfit?
	If you think she's wearing a cute outfit, would you then go and buy that cute outfit if you thought it would look good on you?
	Have I done it before?
	Yes.
	Yeah, that's a value judgment.
	Do you see what I'm saying?
	That's a value judgment.
	So then when it comes to women, I do value judgment, but it's not a negative way.
	Which the table of ladies next to me, they're confused.
	They said it doesn't have to be negative, but you said that you were speaking about value judgment in a negative way, correct?
	Well, that's not a good question.
	Well, no, I think it can be done both ways.
	Now you're backtracking.
	I think any woman who feels like she's being judged thinks it's going to be a negative.
	Whether it's positive or negative from your personal assessment, I think that they're just not going to want to get judged at all, right?
	Isn't that what you said earlier that you would prefer to just not be judged?
	Yes, but she wants to say something.
	That's my point.
	I think we all judge unconsciously.
	I think women are competing with each other as well because men fall for what they see and women fall for what they hear.
	That's why we wear makeup, we do plastic surgery.
	That's not always for ourselves, right?
	Sometimes to impress a man or increase our market value.
	So I think we do unconsciously compete with each other.
	If you want it or not, we do.
	I think also it's like you can form your opinions and that's fine, but you can be respectful about it.
	You know, maybe I don't like someone.
	This has happened to me before.
	I didn't like a girl.
	I respectfully told her, like, hey, you know, I don't think our energy is meshed well.
	I don't think we should be friends, you know.
	And it wasn't me being disrespectful.
	It's just an observation to protect myself.
	So opinions are important.
	So that way you can set boundaries and you can protect yourself and everything.
	Well, I think that's different than a value judgment.
	Maybe I'm understanding like incorrectly.
	How is that not a value judgment?
	I thought you said value judgment is based purely off of looks.
	No, it's based purely upon assessments of behavior or assessments of things which go against your preferences or go towards your preferences.
	Oh, then I can't do it.
	A value judgment.
	A value judgment is anything.
	Stopping at a stop sign is you assess.
	That's a value judgment.
	You're assessing the value of you stopping there versus not stopping there.
	Value judgment would go into every form of human activity.
	We're always making judgments on the value of the behavior of the people around us and the behavior that we're engaging in.
	So for instance, if you've ever said, I don't want to drink tonight because I have to work in the morning, that's a value judgment.
	You're saying, okay, I'm going to weigh these two options.
	Do I want to go to work without a headache or do I want to go to work with a headache?
	Right?
	So, which one has more value to me?
	That's a value judgment.
	It's also for self-protection, right?
	You judge.
	It can be.
	Sure.
	I think that value judgments are made all the time for the purposes of protecting yourself.
	Also, I will say, Andrew, you are a professional debater because you are so great at making people think that you started off with that subject, but actually ending it somewhere else.
	Then bring it back.
	Because your first example that you gave me was: if you sit down with a group of girls, are you not going to judge them?
	You said outfit, nails, hair, and now you're saying a value judgment is based off of everything.
	But it could be.
	So I'm responding.
	So, first of all, I'm responding to four different conversations and four different people who injected their opinion.
	But going right back to the beginning, let's take it all the way back to the beginning.
	Did I not ask every woman here to raise their hand if this is an activity they engaged in?
	And all of them raised their hand, including you.
	So what is the argument then?
	You just trailed off.
	You trailed off.
	Nothing.
	You got nothing.
	You have nothing, nothing at all.
	You have nothing to say.
	Just completely wrecked.
	You have nothing.
	Because as you said, you addressed four different arguments from all the other ladies who had an opinion.
	And I just addressed yours.
	Yes, the first topic we were talking about where you judge purely based off looks, meaning what they're wearing, their hair, their nails.
	And I'm talking about specifically just women.
	I don't do that.
	Oh, I'm prettier than her.
	Oh, she's prettier than me.
	I don't do that.
	Like she said, what did you say?
	You said comparison.
	Oh, yeah, comparison is the thief of joy.
	Comparison is a thief of joy.
	I believe that, but I still judge people off of their actions.
	I think that speaks a lot more than what they look like.
	Really?
	So you don't ever sit down with other women and ever go, oh, wow, her hair is frayed.
	Her nails are not really looking very good today.
	Her outfit is really not well put together.
	You're the only one who doesn't fucking do that.
	Go ahead and lie to me and tell me that.
	Go ahead.
	I already answered that question.
	I said no.
	No, no, answer it again.
	I say no, I don't do that because I think it's ugly.
	I think it's ugly.
	I'm not, I'm serious.
	How many people you think believe you right now?
	Exactly.
	Including even the women at the table with you don't fucking believe you.
	Because they don't do that themselves.
	Because they don't do that.
	I don't mean to argue.
	I believe you.
	Thank you.
	Like, I genuinely don't do that.
	I think it's fucking ugly.
	I don't think we should do that.
	We're not in competition with anyone at this table or anyone outside of this table.
	And that's what.
	I think it's just a biological thing.
	Like, it's not ugly or it's not mean.
	Like, it's just, it happens.
	It's something that you have to unteach yourself.
	Like she said.
	You have to be conscious when you're doing that.
	No, that's not what she said.
	What she said is that she understands that she even does this, but she tries conscientiously to recognize that she's doing this, to stop it, doesn't mean she doesn't do it.
	You're making a different claim.
	Your claim is, I just don't do that.
	And it's like, okay, fine.
	You're the only woman on planet Earth, the only woman here on the panel, even though you raised your hand earlier and said you did, who doesn't do that.
	It's totally believable.
	I totally believe you.
	The chat totally believes you.
	Every woman here totally, I believe you, girl.
	You're so correct, right?
	If nobody is judging, how come it that nobody here is all tense?
	Because we are all comparing ourselves to other women, right?
	So we are all judging.
	I'm not comparing myself to anybody.
	No woman here on the table is judging.
	Why aren't we all tense then?
	Why aren't we all what?
	We gave ourselves a number, right?
	We gave ourselves a number and we make that number in our heads Comparing ourselves to different women.
	So if nobody judged, why aren't we all saying that we are a 10?
	Because you're comparing yourself to other women, which is why I'm the only girl here at this table who gave myself a 10, because the only person I'm comparing myself to is myself.
	Well, then how can you give yourself a 10?
	Because I'm hotter than I've ever been in my whole entire life.
	How do you know what hot is without comparing to other people?
	How do you know what that is?
	Comparing it to my past self.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Yeah, but how do you know if your past self was hot?
	Based on the based on the based on the what?
	I'm trying to think of the word where if you go to other places, they think that's what they're talking about.
	Oh, so if other people make the so you're comparing yourself to what other people think again?
	I'm comparing it to the beauty standard that men set.
	Oh, okay, gotcha.
	So then you, the thing that you think makes you hot, is the opinion of other people, which you literally just got done saying.
	You base your beauty standard on what you think and not the opinion of other people.
	Is that a contradiction in real time, by the way?
	Well, what I'm saying is I don't fucking judge the woman that I'm in front of by beauty.
	No, no, no, that's not what you said.
	Now you just got done telling me that I was a bad faith professional debater because I couldn't stay on top of it.
	No, I said you were actually excellent.
	You said what you literally just said was this.
	You said, I only compare my beauty standard to me, right?
	That's not true.
	You're informing your beauty standard by what you think men want.
	So it's not from you.
	It's from men, right?
	Isn't that what's really true?
	And you know what?
	I'm going to backtrack because you actually just misworded me.
	You said that I called you a bad faith debater.
	I said, no.
	I said, you're excellent at what you do because if I wasn't good at paying attention, I wouldn't have caught that.
	But I did catch that.
	You didn't catch anything.
	It makes no sense.
	No, I did catch that argument, and I'm addressing your argument now.
	And the implication was bad faith.
	But the thing is, leaving that aside for a second, back to this, the topic we're currently on, that I'm not going to let you be made and weasel.
	I'm not going to let you weasel out of it.
	Not going to let you do it.
	You are not comparing yourself to just yourself, right?
	The reason why I rated myself a 10 is because I'm hotter than I've ever been in my whole life.
	And if you were to ask me, go around the table, re-based on what?
	I would give them all a 10.
	I'd give them all a 10.
	Yeah, based on what?
	Based on my opinion of their confidence, the fact that they're here, the fact that they're subjecting themselves to assholes like that.
	I don't care what care about the other women.
	You said you only compare you to you.
	Right?
	I think this conversation is tiring.
	I don't care what you think the conversation is.
	You only compare yourself to you, correct?
	You're right, Andrew.
	I'm so sorry.
	Yeah, don't backtrack me and now go bad faith and go, I just don't want to do it anymore because I feel stupid.
	Just answer the fucking question.
	Do you compare yourself to you or not?
	I do.
	That's what I said it a hundred times.
	Then, then how do you know if you're hot or not?
	Because I'm basing it off of the beauty standards that are set.
	Or set by somebody's sexuality.
	By men.
	By men.
	But why is it that?
	Yeah, by other.
	So you're not comparing.
	You are not the ultimate architect, even in your mind, of your own beauty standard.
	Other people are.
	You realize that?
	I'm not the beauty.
	I know.
	I think that I've taken a lot of this speaking time over something that doesn't really matter.
	You're right, Andrew.
	It matters.
	You're right.
	Is it a men's fault that women judge each other?
	Yes.
	Because you say a few times away.
	It is.
	It is.
	And why is it a man's fault?
	Because they set unrealistic beauty standards.
	Honestly, this is going to sound fucking hypocritical, but it's the truth.
	Porn, for example.
	Is porn a men's fold?
	Porn is a fairy.
	Why did that as a woman?
	Porn is fucking made for men.
	Porn is made for men.
	And who's providing the porn?
	We as a woman, right?
	Supply and demand.
	If we do not do porn, men will not have shit, right?
	Yeah.
	We provide it, so we run most of the industry, so that's our false.
	Supply and demand.
	There would be no supply without the demand of men.
	And you have more women categories in porn than men.
	So who's the more exactly?
	Women are catering to the men.
	You're proving my point.
	You do not get my point, I think.
	Actually, I don't get your point either.
	Can you elaborate on your point?
	So she's saying that you said why are there more female categories in porn?
	No, I said is it a men's fault that we are judging each other.
	Yes, it is because, for example, in the strip club, a lot of the guys say, oh, there's a lot of competition here.
	And that's what I use, that steak and Chinese food example.
	I'm not in competition with anyone because you can be the juiciest peach in the world, but some people aren't going to fucking like peaches.
	Who doesn't like peaches?
	Who's weird?
	Wait, you just contradicted yourself again.
	You're not in competition with other women.
	The only reason you compete with other women is for the attention of men.
	You mean Andrew Wilson's exact position that I already gave you.
	Good job.
	Thank you so much for finally admitting that you're in competition with other women for the attention of men.
	Otherwise, why would you be in competition with other women?
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	Tier 3.
	Yeah.
	So I'll get into some of the other notes.
	Actually, going over here to Angelic, you said you'd like to speak about dynamics of relationships such as sub-dom and feminine and masculine energies.
	Oh, yes.
	I want to know, like, how everyone enjoys the dynamic of their relationships.
	Of their relationships?
	Yeah.
	Like this.
	And if they want the sub-dom thing?
	Okay.
	Sure, starting over here.
	Yo, ABCH, thank you for the gifted 20 memberships.
	How did she end up with the baby, Brian?
	How did she end up with the baby?
	Oh, Madison, she adopted from Madison.
	Yeah.
	We have more, I think.
	I don't know.
	Morgan has the.
	Hold it up, Morgan, so we can see Morgan has Morgan.
	Do they have names?
	Morgan.
	Morgan.
	They don't have names.
	They're just nameless.
	So going around the table, do you want to ask a specific question or do you just want to ask?
	So basically it's kind of like, do you prefer to wear the pants in the relationship or do you prefer your man to wear the pants?
	I prefer my partner too.
	Okay.
	I would like to be very, very submissive, actually.
	I would like that.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I would also say my partner.
	Okay.
	I would say 50-50.
	50-50.
	My husband wears the pants.
	I would say 50-50 as well.
	I would say the partner.
	For the two that said 50-50, what does that look like for you guys?
	Like, I'm not completely dominant or submissive toward my partner.
	It's just even.
	So, like, you guys want to peg?
	Oh, okay, so sorry.
	Sorry, sorry.
	I misread the situation.
	Equal?
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Right, so you're okay to go 50-50 in everything then?
	I mean, like, it depends.
	Like, do you mean like rent and like stuff like that?
	Like, paying?
	Yeah.
	Like, if I make more and they make less, I would pay my fair share like that.
	Would you like to be 50-50, but he has to pay the dates and everything.
	You said that at the beginning of the podcast, right?
	I never said that he has to.
	I think if he asks me, he should.
	Well, on that, do you ever ask guys out?
	No.
	No.
	That's not very 50-50.
	Well, because I just don't have an interest.
	What do you mean you don't have an interest?
	I've never been interested enough to ask someone out.
	Well, wait, hold on.
	Wait, wait.
	I kind of want to dive into this a little bit.
	You've never been interested enough in somebody to ask them out.
	No.
	But conceivably, there are men that you would be interested in enough to do that.
	I haven't met one.
	You haven't met one.
	But, like, I almost wonder, like, how would that make, well, I don't know if this is the right framing, but how would that make a guy feel who you were dating?
	Yeah.
	And he heard that.
	Heard.
	Like, I wasn't interested in you enough for me to have been the one to take that initial approach.
	I mean, like, if it hurts his feelings, it just hurts his feelings.
	Did you ask him out?
	He asked you for the first date.
	Did you ask him, like, the second date out?
	Like, hey, can I take you out right now?
	It's 50-50, right?
	I'll one-up you on that.
	So if an intruder comes into my house, I don't take turns with my husband to go check the door.
	Like, so would you, like, take turns with him?
	Like, okay, babe, like, I checked the door last time, your turn.
	Like, that's 50-50.
	Oh, my God.
	I don't know.
	I'll check the door.
	I don't care.
	No, but like, they're trying to get in the house.
	Like, you have your kids in the house.
	Like, and like, if someone's trying to break into my house, like, I am not going anywhere near danger.
	Like, my first response is, like, I need to go exactly where the kids are.
	He's front line.
	Then I'm like the backup.
	Like, they can't come to the kids.
	And then it's the kids.
	Well, I guess that could also be like the 50-50.
	Like, you protect the kids while he checks the door.
	That is not 50-50.
	Because he is more likely to die with his life.
	Yeah.
	Well, I would do that.
	But if you go back to dating, if you look at your ex, like Brian said, you were instostated, he asked you out.
	Did you ask him out for the second day because you were in a relationship, so you were interested in him?
	Did you ask him out ever in your relationship?
	Like, you know what?
	I really like you, I really adore you.
	Can I take you out this time?
	I did eventually.
	But not the first few times.
	No, I don't think so.
	I did.
	Hmm.
	Kind of related to this whole 50-50 thing, would you prefer a guy to ask, like for the first kiss, would you prefer a guy to ask you for permission, or would you prefer the guy to just go for it?
	Mind you, this is assuming that you're into him, right?
	Well, starting here.
	Yeah, if I'm into him, you should go for it.
	go for it go forward go for it go for it go for it go for it I would say read the room So, like, if we're on a date and we've kind of been at this awkward piece and we're having awkward conversations, I don't want you to go in and go for it and kiss me.
	But if we're getting closer and we're gravitating towards each other, and if you do decide to go for it, then yes.
	But every time a guy going for it is no.
	Wait, every time the guy is going for it is.
	Like, I don't think a guy should go for the kiss every single time.
	Well, let's assume that it's the moment.
	Then yes.
	But it's either go for it or if he were to ask, can I kiss you?
	Go for it.
	Okay.
	Yes, if it's evidently clear, which I do make it, that I'm into him, then of course go for it.
	Yeah, go for it.
	All right.
	Interesting.
	50-50.
	How long do we have for the clock for the pet?
	For the head?
	So we said 8 o'clock.
	We have till 8:10.
	$500 donation.
	So she can wear the hats.
	Please donate.
	We want to see that.
	I look good in hats.
	Kill of Cereal says no need to be in competition to have an opinion about something.
	Fuking.
	Dunce cap, please.
	Nicolette, what is your honest opinion about the clothing the other girls are in?
	Would you wear it?
	Yes, I would.
	I think every lady's outfit looks good as fuck, and I would totally wear it.
	All right.
	If you say so.
	What?
	Why is that believable?
	Everyone's dressed very nicely.
	Okay.
	Sure.
	It's just hard to tell, like, the way you speak, it's sometimes hard to tell if you're being sarcastic or not.
	That's just how I talk.
	I have like vocal fry.
	I learned that from your podcast.
	You learned how to do vocal fry from the whatever.
	No, I learned what it meant.
	Like, that's just how I talk.
	I like elongate my words.
	We taught you about the vocal fry.
	Yeah, like in the comments, we're like, she has vocal fry.
	I'm like, Googling what I'm doing.
	Did you know what that was before?
	No.
	Okay.
	Now, going to Laura's notes here, you said that you have an interesting story of how you met your husband.
	Is that the case?
	Yeah, I just figured I had to kind of throw in something that was interesting.
	But yeah, my husband and I met at the, in a World Youth Day with the Pope.
	So we met in Brazil.
	And yeah, and then we started dating from there.
	But I just thought it was cool because we met and then the next day we had a mass with the Pope.
	So.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'm assuming this was at, was it in the Vatican?
	No, this was in Brazil.
	Oh, okay.
	He was in Brazil.
	Yeah, he was in Brazil.
	Okay.
	Wait.
	Old Pope?
	No, so we – no, no, no.
	This is Pope Francis, who was.
	The current Pope?
	The current Pope was in Brazil in 2013 for the World Youth Day.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Was he Pope then?
	Yep.
	When was there?
	And there's like, I think the last one was Pope St. Okay, whatever.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	And you also said that you wanted to talk about dating multiple sexual partners.
	You said that?
	I'm not sure if you did that, but you said that was a topic you wanted to talk on.
	I think.
	Oh, I don't know.
	Was that me?
	Pretty sure.
	Remember how I said I'm Hispanic, so a little crazy?
	I'm just kidding.
	You're, I'm sorry, what?
	What?
	What did you say?
	Okay, so question eight.
	Anything you disagree with the show host on?
	If so, oh, okay, these are disagreements then.
	OnlyFans, abortion, dating multiple sexual partners.
	Yes, I disagree with all of them.
	Okay.
	Well, no, you won't really have any objections from me on the dating multiple sexual partners.
	You have an OnlyFans girl right next to you.
	Why don't you voice your criticisms directly to her?
	She's nice, kind of.
	You are really sweet, especially because you said my librarian outfit is cute.
	But yeah, I disagree with what you do.
	I think it's harmful for you and it's harmful, especially for society.
	And it makes my job as a mother a lot more challenging, especially with raising two voice and now with a girl.
	And so that's why I disagree with what you do.
	But you're very nice.
	Thank you.
	So why does it make it more challenging for you as a mother?
	Because it's a perversion of sex.
	Perversion.
	Perversion.
	Excuse me.
	No, I wasn't correcting you.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	Well, sex is going to be there anyway.
	Whether OnlyFans is a new thing.
	There's porn before that, there's strip clubs before that, prostitution before that.
	Yeah, but it was a lot more scarce, and now it's at the fingertips of anyone with a magic wand, like a phone.
	And so it makes it a lot more difficult for me, like I said, like as a mother to keep that away.
	And so we keep pushing the boundaries of, you know, this perversion of like sex, right?
	So like there's commercials.
	Like my husband can't watch a football game sometimes with the commercials coming on.
	And I'm like, man, like this woman is like half naked for a commercial.
	And my little kids are watching and I don't like that.
	So whenever things like OnlyFans come out, it's just another thing that I have to worry about.
	Exactly.
	So if it weren't for me, there'd be a million other things I have to worry about.
	That's not true.
	I mean, yeah, there's a lot of people.
	You just compare me to the hot girl on the commercial.
	Right, but there's levels to this, obviously.
	Like, what you do is not going to be allowed in a commercial.
	Okay.
	Yeah, so, but that's why I disagree with you.
	But it's mostly because I also care about the people who are doing what you do.
	Well, you can say I do porn, I do OnlyFans.
	And to be honest, that's why I think it's like, it's such bullshit because I agree with a lot of things she says.
	The only difference is OnlyFans.
	And I think she's funny as fuck and she thinks I'm funny as fuck.
	Right.
	Like, I don't, I don't see any.
	I'm not saying I see you any different.
	I'm just saying that what you do, like for your job, I disagree with.
	So, and that's it.
	And that's your right, and that's your opinion.
	And I won't argue that further because you are entitled to your opinion.
	Nicolette, do you think that what you do is harmful to others or has a negative impact?
	Um, well, earlier in the podcast, I said no, but I have a mother right next to me saying that it does affect her negatively.
	Am I going to stop doing it?
	No.
	But that's still really nice of you to like even consider.
	You know, not consider quitting, but what I'm saying, acknowledge that it makes my job a little bit more difficult.
	Well, your job as a mother is the hardest job in the world.
	It's not going to get any easier, and in fact, it's going to get a lot harder.
	There's going to be a new OnlyFans that's even more easily accessible probably in the next few years.
	So prepare for that.
	Girl, I'm preparing.
	I got my rosary out all the time.
	But do you not think that you're adding to this problem that you're not saying it's good?
	Would you not say that you're adding more to it, more content, and harming yourself in the making?
	I don't think I'm harming myself hearing from her stands.
	I'm more likely to hurt other people.
	I don't feel hurt at all.
	In fact, it's helped me a lot.
	How has it helped you?
	Financially.
	And confident-wise.
	I think that confidence in that aspect is a very like short-lived confidence though, but there's like a different confidence that maybe not you, but just in general, other OnlyFans workers are looking for.
	You don't have to like sugarcoat it.
	You can include me in that too because I am.
	I've been doing OnlyFans for six years.
	Right, so but I'm saying like why can't I like I'm not an OnlyFans, but I'm still confident.
	Why did you have to do OnlyFans to feel confident?
	And I'm not being rhetorical.
	I'm genuinely asking like why did it take that for you to like gain confidence?
	So it actually wasn't OnlyFans, it was dancing that gave me my confidence.
	Actually, it first started off as a cam girl webcam model.
	And here comes the hole.
	And because like I said, before like Nick pressed that.
	No, it's fine.
	I grew up like as a teenager.
	I was very meek.
	I was very quiet.
	I wouldn't stand up for myself.
	I wasn't outspoken.
	And then when you go into that environment where it's based off of value judgment, like what we spoke about earlier, I didn't realize who I was or like what I had to offer.
	And that wasn't OnlyFans.
	That was in the strip club.
	Got it.
	And I'm not sure why it had to take that, but it's because in like high school, I was bullied.
	I'm not going to lie.
	I was fucking bullied in high school.
	So people were nice to me.
	They were like, oh, shit, you're awesome in the strip club.
	Maybe that's just because they were giving me money, but it gave me the fucking confidence that I have now.
	Oh my God, who the hell can?
	She did because she asked.
	I would say, Nicolette, you have a lot more to offer than just your body to the world.
	You're right, I do, but that's just all I show.
	And there's a lot more to me that I don't share on the internet because I do value myself so highly.
	I don't talk about my personal life on the internet.
	But you do talk about a very personal part of yourself that is initially designed just for one specific person.
	And you've shown millions of people.
	And I think that you're worth more than objectifying yourself for immense pleasure.
	I could say the same thing for you.
	You're not a virgin.
	Yeah, I've been with one man.
	And I regret it.
	I'm not proud of it.
	I would have been an OnlyFans girl if I wouldn't have had God in my life.
	So if that makes you feel better, like I got fat because God was like, this bitch is going to be a stripper.
	So then I was like, so I got chubby.
	I'm sure there's a niche for that.
	No, but you can all judge and say, oh, I'm showing my fucking body when it's meant for one person.
	But we're all here at this table, not virgins.
	So what makes me any different than you guys?
	Nothing.
	Nick's a virgin.
	I'm a virgin.
	I can change that, Nick.
	Oh, man.
	Is he really?
	Yes.
	You would really, yeah?
	He's hot.
	Look at him.
	I do agree.
	Like, porn does ruin young men.
	Literally, if you look at brain scans, like it, like, muddles their brain.
	But then the thing is, is it the porn star's fault, or is it their fault for viewing it?
	This is the whole thing, supply and demand, baby.
	Supply.
	It's hard for me to say.
	Like, it's obviously I think the men's fault for viewing it, but then, you know, you create a market, so it keeps going and going.
	So, I don't know.
	Did you?
	Well, you're right.
	I just smoked my vape with you outside.
	So, is it the tobacco or nicotine company's fault, or is it yours for keeping them in the business?
	Mine, yes, it's the consumers.
	Then you're a hypocrite.
	No, I'm saying, like, you can't say it's your fault.
	Because everyone is.
	No, I was saying you can't say it's your fault because the men are consuming it.
	Exactly.
	So, it's not my fault.
	Whoever had a glass of champagne, then you are also causing to the problem of the alcohol companies out there.
	So, what's the big deal?
	Wow, that's deep, Nicolette.
	That was beautiful.
	Go ahead.
	You have a thing?
	I do OnlyFans as well, obviously.
	I think we should not make OnlyFans normal because it's not really normal.
	And I think a lot of OnlyFans girls got into the industry because we were insecure.
	Let's be honest.
	We had some sexual trauma.
	We're insecure.
	Most of all.
	I'm most of all.
	Sexual trauma is insecure.
	Call it what you want to call it.
	So they got into the industry basically feeding that trauma and then call it, I'm getting secure.
	It's basically not healing, right?
	It's basically like adding that trauma.
	So is it really that good for us then?
	You're right.
	We shouldn't normalize it because then it makes us less special.
	And that gives us like less money in turn.
	Without the money and everything, would you still do it?
	Well.
	If it's like your dream job, right?
	You love to do this.
	Would you still do it if it would not pay like then?
	I'm not going to lie.
	I was uploading on Pornhub without making any money.
	So yes, maybe for six years.
	Well, wait, wait.
	This is kind of dishonest, though.
	I will agree.
	I'm sure that you did upload to Pornhub without making money.
	But that doesn't mean that you did it because you didn't think that the potential was there, that it was going to make you money or lead to you making money.
	So let's caveat this correctly.
	Did you upload to this site without any expectation that it would lead to any money ever?
	Yes, because the Model HUD program, which is a program on Pornhub, which allows you to monetize off of it, is new.
	I did that seven years ago before I even was a cam girl, before I even made any money.
	So you did it to assist your career to make money, though, right?
	No, I did it because I'm a fucking whore.
	Like, what's the problem?
	So just to make sure we have this clear, if you were never paid again, you would do pornography absolutely free of charge.
	I've never done pornography in my life.
	Okay, OnlyFans is pornography.
	Pornhub is porn.
	Okay, so...
	What were you doing on Pornhub?
	Eating chocolates?
	No, I was doing like solo stuff.
	So there's like tears to.
	You were naked, correct?
	Yeah.
	And you were doing something sexually provocative while you were naked.
	And also when I was before I was even an OnlyFans or online sex worker at all, I was fucking running through the football team.
	Like that's just in my blood.
	Like, I don't know.
	So I just want to make sure that we're clear, that we're clear.
	Yes, we're clear.
	Other person ever paid you again, you would continue to do this kind of work for seven years, like I've been doing now, probably not that long, but for as long as it made me happy.
	And if not, I'd still be like fucking people like left and right.
	Like, some people are just holding it.
	I just want to be sure because you're still not really answering the question, so I'm just going to be very specific.
	I just did.
	I did.
	I said, if it didn't, what she did was she gave a bunch of caveats.
	I'm just going to ask a simple yes or no.
	If nobody paid you ever again to do corn, would you still do it or not?
	It's not a yes or no answer.
	I said, would I have been doing it?
	Yes or no.
	How is it not a yes or no answer?
	Well, if you were to have asked me if you were to have asked me at 18, I would have said yes.
	I'm asking you right now.
	Crickets.
	No.
	No, that's what I thought.
	But like, what do you consider porn?
	Like, if I'm dating someone or if I'm hooking up with someone and I want them to harden their best.
	If you're just playing with yourself, that's porn.
	If you put yourself naked out on Instagram, only fans, what I do as well, that's porn.
	Everything you do sexually or exactly.
	So would I do it without making money and without posting it?
	Yeah, I'd probably still be doing porn in like my own personal life.
	So the answer is yes.
	Yes, then.
	All right.
	No, I don't think the answer is yes.
	So I think you just gave an out where there didn't need to be an out.
	Would you film cornography and distribute it and/or give it to somebody to distribute for free?
	No payment to you because you think it's fucking funsies or not.
	Oh, no, not now.
	No, no, you wouldn't.
	And so you wouldn't do OnlyFans work either for without payment, correct?
	No, but I did do in the past.
	Yeah, so just saying that you would be a slut is far different than saying that you would distribute pornography or participate in corn, right?
	What?
	Well, I ran through a few.
	A few football teams.
	Altogether.
	A few football players.
	Same team.
	They loved me.
	Did you film that as well?
	No, no, no, no.
	Like the same night?
	No.
	Oh.
	No, no, no, no.
	Huh?
	I wish.
	It's not too late.
	Okay.
	You didn't get bullied for that or something?
	No, I did.
	Uh-oh.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	That's an interesting story.
	You know what's crazy?
	You want to know something?
	I literally did not sleep with anyone in high school because of how insecure I was.
	I'm like, they're going to immediately leave me, but if I stay aversion, someone will have to marry me.
	But literally, like, it was a complete opposite.
	I did not want to, like, obviously I knew God and stuff, and it played a part, but I was so insecure that I was like, I better not ever sleep with anyone.
	They're going to look at all of this and be like, what?
	So it, like, kept me away from.
	So it's crazy because you know.
	No, they loved me.
	I want to know what you're drinking this morning for yourself.
	Gloctavius donated $200.
	Would wife the half-Asian girls slash 10.
	I would drag my balls through 1,000 miles of broken glass shards just to hear then fart through a walkie-talkie.
	Are you single?
	Well, there's.
	Half Asian.
	Isn't there three?
	Would wife the half-Asian girls?
	Oh, girls.
	So any of them.
	Oh, are you single?
	Not for him.
	Not for Glocktavius?
	And I'm not single.
	Sorry, Glocktavius.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	We'll get into some more pre-show notes.
	Why don't we quickly go to Carly?
	So Carly, you said I'll get through as much as I can here.
	I'll jump around a bit.
	You said, hmm.
	One sec, which one do I want?
	There's a lot.
	You gave us a lot of notes here.
	Soy boy beta males who push for abortion because they're not ready.
	Amen.
	Do you want to elaborate?
	Yeah, so part of my job, I stand outside of abortion centers as women are going into the clinics and I kindly and lovingly ask them to reconsider and give them options and help so they can and I'll stay with them throughout the rest of the way.
	And the number one reason that I see women wanting to have one is because their boyfriend, who isn't part, he's not necessarily like abusive.
	He just says, I don't care, like it's your body, it's your decision, when he's the one that impregnated her.
	And so in my mind, he needs to step up and step into that role of provider and protector.
	But when he doesn't, then the church people should come around these women and these family and these babies.
	And so that's something that really ticks me off is that these soy boy beta meetals.
	So the church will pay for the children's education, food, everything.
	Yeah.
	We have adoption programs.
	We actually have had a few pastors adopt babies.
	So they adopt a baby, but they cannot get rid of the baby.
	So she will never take care of the baby either way.
	She can have an open adoption.
	We do have that as well where she steps in and is a part of the baby's life.
	She's just not responsible for the baby.
	By any chance, do you know who Harriet Tubman is?
	Of course.
	Okay, so she freed a bunch of slaves.
	But in what you're saying is hypocritical because she freed a bunch of slaves but didn't help them get jobs.
	So what she's doing is she's saving babies and she's not helping them in this case, like get jobs, as in.
	You're saying, like other things, like even if she would though, but like that's still that we still do I.
	But that's what I'm saying.
	It's like it's a little hypocritical, because or, unless you know what, is everybody an hypocrite either way, but no, what?
	I'm just trying to give you an example.
	Yeah, but is it also not a little bit?
	If a woman is so going to an abortion clinic, she's very vulnerable very, it's a, it's a huge thing.
	And then you get to her as well, it's like another thing.
	It's good that you make her think for herself.
	If the boyfriend is not there, that's a good thing.
	I am quite pro-life.
	But it's not really your decision in the end to give an other person the idea.
	And what about the man?
	Yeah, he did put it in it, but then he has still a say.
	Right, he should have a say.
	But yeah, and if he doesn't want it, where is his say?
	Well, it's still a man's dick, still it's sperm, but the man, there is no child, so he has still like a 50, 50 saying, in my opinion, but he shouldn't have a say whether or not the baby lives or dies, why you just confirmed he has a saying.
	So why doesn't he have a saying right now in being able to say that this child should live, but nobody should have a saying whether or not that baby, if that baby, gets killed no one.
	That shouldn't be allowed.
	We shouldn't have a place where we can go chill, kill children up to 20 weeks of pregnancy, Pregnancy right down the street.
	And that's what abortion is.
	And not only that, but these centers, these abortion centers, are capitalizing on women in their most vulnerable moment when they are hurting the most.
	And they're capitalizing on their vulnerability, taking their money, and oftentimes sending them back into the same abusive situation that they just came to.
	But you're talking about abuse.
	I understand if a young girl is being raped and anything bad, and then you let the child go away.
	It's a little bit different situation, I think.
	But for you, the child is a life at that age, probably, right?
	It's a human life at the beginning of conception.
	So is the guy supposed to pay like child support and everything already when it's like in the womb?
	Yeah, I agree.
	Because of selection, I think, yes.
	But if he's not pro-life, then he should, and the woman is not pro-life, then he should be able to opt out of not even paying for child support.
	Because it's so unfair for men.
	It's awesome.
	Okay.
	It's super unfair for men because men literally do not have a choice.
	Yes.
	They don't have a choice.
	Like the women, the woman gets to choose if the baby dies or the baby lives.
	And the man literally has no choice.
	He has to pay for child support.
	That's my point.
	So if he wants no child, I don't have a say in that when he does.
	He had to say when he stuck his dick in her and came in her.
	But that's the pro-life argument.
	Okay, well, what I will say is, first of all, those abortion clinics, they're mandatory reporters.
	So if they are being abused, they are mandatory.
	They are not mandatory askers.
	They don't have to ask, are you abuse?
	They do.
	Because I go to those clinics.
	They say, is anyone keeping you?
	Yes, I go there all the time.
	To get abortions?
	No, they give abortion clinics.
	That's what they call them.
	It's not abortion clinics.
	They provide free birth control.
	They provide advice, free STD testing.
	And I come across the people who stand outside of those clinics all the time.
	Personally, I haven't mentioned it on this podcast.
	I'm a Christian.
	Oh, no.
	Yes.
	I am.
	So they saw me.
	I pull up.
	I'm like, oh, fuck these fuckers again.
	And so they speak to those women outside.
	I do.
	I do.
	So they saw me when I'm on my way in.
	And first of all, I'm always late, as you guys know.
	So I'm late to my appointment.
	You're late to your appointment.
	All the time.
	I was late here.
	So I'm always late, fashionably appointed.
	She was late.
	She was 40 minutes late today.
	But we still logged on early.
	Am I right or am I right?
	Not because of you, but yeah, we did.
	Anyways, so when they saw me, oh, can I please share this on my way out?
	I have an appointment on my way out.
	And I do make sure I let them talk to me, give me your pamphlet.
	Can I pray for you?
	Yes, you can pray for me.
	I give them my experience.
	They're not knowledgeable.
	They don't know that stuff.
	They don't know.
	They think, oh, they don't give you ultrasounds before abortions.
	First of all, they do.
	In fact, it's mandatory.
	I know they do that to check to make sure the baby's in there, but they don't often check how far along it is.
	Actually, oftentimes we've had a mom come and tell me I'm three weeks pregnant.
	You can't know that you're pregnant at three weeks, really, unless you're really, really, really tracking your cycle.
	And then we'll take them to one of our pregnancy resource centers and they'll say, actually, you're eight or nine weeks pregnant.
	It's a lot farther along.
	I've had friends that come out of the abortion centers or former workers there tell me they're not training people properly.
	They're not following these requirements because the abortion industry follows that really low standards compared to others.
	And there have been multiple sting operations.
	We've had, you guys had Lila Rose on this podcast, who has exposed through live action how the Planned Parenthood allows sex trafficking and pimps to go in there and take advantage of these women because they don't report it.
	They've done those kinds of things before.
	What you're saying just isn't true.
	And a lot of people aren't informed.
	In my experience, it's true.
	Well, I need to shift gears a little bit here, but a couple things.
	Nicolette, you said that when it comes to the male side of things, you said, well, he should have thought of that before sticking his D in her and coming.
	Yes.
	That's his choice right there.
	What if he thought that?
	So, Nicolette, so if I kind of turn the argument around and say, well, women who are desirous of getting abortions, they should have thought of that before having sex.
	Well, first of all, an abortion is not a form of birth control, and girls who do that, I'm against that.
	Right, but you realize, like, when it comes to the male perspective of this, you're basically a bronze age pro-lifer.
	You should have thought, you shouldn't have opened your legs.
	You should have.
	Exactly, it works both ways.
	No, but you're, aren't you pro-choice?
	I am.
	So it doesn't work both ways.
	It does.
	No, because for the man, for the man, it's you should have, oh, tough luck.
	You just got to pay 18 years of child support.
	Well, an abortion isn't easy.
	An abortion isn't.
	You have to call off work for that.
	You're going to fucking bleed.
	Obviously child support for 18 years is not hard.
	Yeah, but your position is just kind of a bit contradictory because for men, it's, well, tough luck should have kept your legs closed.
	But you would never make that same argument towards women who want to get an abortion.
	Well, if they're crying, oh, woe is me, I don't want to get an abortion, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Like, you can't.
	I don't feel bad.
	For men?
	For either size.
	You both had the decision to lay down in bed and do that.
	So you're either going to abort it or you're going to have it.
	Yeah, but women can get abortions.
	Yeah, but it's not easy.
	But they can.
	They can.
	Because it's very easy.
	You can go to CVA.
	Easy as in, like, mentally and emotionally.
	Yes, thank you.
	Or like physically.
	Framing of men for 18 years is not mentally anything.
	Wait, hold on.
	Wait, I'll even engage with that.
	I'll even grant to you that it's not easy for the woman to get the abortion.
	I'm just going to go ahead and say that it's way harder for the man when he has to labor for 18 years to support the child.
	That's way more damaging to him, I would say.
	I would also argue that it's hard for a man when he knows that his girlfriend or someone killed this child.
	That is hard for a man to go through.
	I've seen men experience loss.
	I've talked to men as they're crying and throwing up in the bushes saying, I did everything I could to stop her to have this abortion.
	And he wanted that baby more than anything to be a dad.
	And yet he has no say, no decision in the matter.
	Then she should have chosen his partner better.
	Yes.
	What?
	That's hard.
	That's hard to say.
	So, Nicolette, I think Andrew wanted to jump in on this.
	You're Christian?
	Christian?
	Which denominations?
	I don't believe in that.
	I don't believe in that.
	I'm a Christian.
	I believe in God.
	I believe that He died on the cross for our sins.
	That's it.
	Do you know?
	Is there any obligations for you as a Christian?
	What you said is the same thing that the devil says because the devil also believes in God.
	He was an angel, right?
	The devil?
	That's all.
	Wait, question.
	Question for you then.
	Do you think God wants you to do porn and OnlyFans and Stripping?
	No, I also think God doesn't want us to drink champagne.
	Why not?
	I don't think He wants Andrew to smoke cigarettes.
	What was the first miracle?
	The first miracle.
	Didn't he cure a blind man or something?
	The first miracle was that.
	The first miracle was in a wedding, and they ran out of wine.
	And Mary went to Jesus and she's like, hey, we ran out of wine.
	And he's like, well, what do you want me to do about it?
	And she's like, well, make more wine.
	And he's like, fine.
	So the first miracle was that he made more wine for a wedding.
	So obviously, we don't all, there's no such thing as a perfect Christian, perfect Catholic.
	It's not a sin to drink, but it's a sin to be drugged.
	That's a great pivot.
	Can we get back real quick before you pivot off into this?
	To do the actual shit.
	Before you pivot off into some other fucking nonsense.
	No, you're wrong.
	Can you just kind of answer to this idea that a real Christian doesn't drink champagne when the first miracle of Jesus Christ was to turn water into wine for a party?
	So I didn't know that, to be honest.
	But I do know that it's a sin to be demonic.
	It's a fucking blurred line.
	And obviously, we're not all perfect Christians.
	She's not a virgin.
	She has a Bible on her lap, but you're still a Christian.
	And I would never take that away from you.
	I'm not going to say, oh, you're not the right Christian.
	Hey, I'm just saying.
	Yeah, I know both, but you should, right?
	Thank you.
	No, no, I'm using you on the criteria for what they are.
	I know, but I'm just saying, like.
	Yeah, but things have criteria for what they are.
	So when you make the kind of claim, if you say, I am X, then you have to fit X criteria.
	You don't have to.
	Hang on, hang on.
	From your standpoint, then, what the hell is a Christian?
	Do you have any obligations or duties as a Christian?
	Any whatsoever?
	To serve him, spread his word, which I'm doing right now, and to believe that he died on the cross for your sins.
	There's also certain denominations where you're not allowed to wear makeup.
	You can't have tattoos.
	X, Y, Z.
	But there's also.
	Yeah, but those are all duties then, right?
	So those are still appealing to a duty.
	They're saying Christians have a duty to not do this thing because, you know, it's sinful or whatever it is that those denominations believe.
	What are your duties as a Christian?
	For the second time, I'll re-answer that.
	To believe that he died on the cross for your sins and to spread his word.
	So if you were to believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins and you spread his word, but at night you also, you know, participated in the grape of women and at the same time butchered them when you were done doing that to them.
	Are you a good Christian because you believe that he died on the cross for you and you spread his word?
	I believe I'm a good Christian and that's not for you to judge.
	That's not what I asked you.
	I said I do believe I'm a good Christian.
	That's not what I asked you.
	What did I ask you?
	You said, do I think that makes me a good Christian?
	No, that's not what I asked you.
	What I asked you is if a person at night went out and was a serial killer and then during the day they believe that Jesus died on the cross and spread his word, right?
	Are they following Christian ethics?
	So there's commandments and we all break them.
	Duties, yeah.
	We all break them.
	Everyone at this table who claims to be a Christian has broken those commandments.
	Yeah, but what they don't do, what they don't do is break the commandments and then go, oh, okay, well, that's okay.
	Since I broke one, I guess I'll just keep breaking them because fuck it.
	And that doesn't make me any less of a Christian than the next person.
	Yes, it fucking does make you.
	You're not a Christian at all.
	You don't know anything about the Bible.
	You don't know anything about your faith.
	You don't know shit about anything.
	And that's your.
	You explain to me what makes you, what makes you a Christian?
	You're a prostitute.
	How can you, in the good sense, say that I engage every single day in prostitution, right, and collect monies for said prostitution, make excuses for prostitution, make excuses for killing babies in the womb, but I'm also a Christian.
	How can you reconcile those?
	First of all, why are you calling me a prostitute?
	Because you're engaged in prostitution.
	What do you consider prostitution and why am I doing it every day?
	No, I would consider prostitution provocative sexualization for the purpose of money.
	Okay, I had a different definition of prostitution.
	Well, that's nice.
	You have a different definition.
	Tell me why mine's wrong.
	Well, prostitution is when you have sex for money.
	No.
	Well, okay, so let me get this right.
	So a woman goes up to your room, okay, and then masturbates for you while you jerk off, and then you pay her $500.
	She's not a prostitute.
	Just want to make sure we're clear.
	Jesus, God, he loved prostitution.
	Yeah, can you answer my question?
	Yeah, sure.
	It's a fucking prostitute, whatever it makes me.
	Makes it a prostitute.
	She didn't engage for in sexuality.
	I am not here to make you happy.
	I'm happy.
	Yeah, you need to answer the question: What makes her a prostitute if she didn't engage in sex for money?
	To my definition or yours, because I still have yours, your definition.
	You said they have to engage in sex for money, and then I just gave you an example where they're not engaging in sex and still getting money.
	You still said it's a prostitute.
	Can you explain that to me?
	I don't think that's a prostitute.
	But you just said it was.
	Because I'm saying shit to make you happy because you're not going to fucking know.
	So, so you have no coherent worldview at all?
	You're just making shit up as you go.
	Anything to make you happy, Andrew?
	I have no thoughts of my own.
	Because I tell you my thoughts, and then you're like, No, you're wrong.
	Yeah, well, if they're wrong, why shouldn't I point out that they're wrong?
	If they don't make any sense, if they're incoherent, if they're nonsense babble, why shouldn't I tell you that?
	Even if I was a prostitute.
	What should I do?
	Should I just be like, oh, okay, sweetheart?
	Anything you say, as stupid as it is, I'll just agree with it.
	Should I just do that?
	Would that make you happy?
	Even if I was a prostitute and fucking accepting $20 on Figueroa for the next trick that pulls up, I am still a Christian and I'm still going to hell.
	And what makes you one?
	Believing that Jesus died on the cross for your sins and I'm saved and that will not change.
	Following none of his commandments nor trying to.
	What commandments of Jesus Christ do you actually follow?
	Have you ever repented?
	Or what do you think of that?
	I repent every single day.
	So you repent and then continuously to that end.
	Just as the.
	I try my best not to sin every day.
	But you still repent for your sins and every day.
	You don't continue in that same action that I know is sinful.
	And I try my hardest each day to live righteously and to not engage in things that I know.
	Like you make an active conscious decision to engage in sin.
	And so when you repent from that, you are making active conscious decisions to deny yourself, pick up your cross, and follow Jesus each and every single day.
	That's what you do to serve God, to choose God over sin.
	That's what I also want to say, what you're saying is the same thing the devil can say.
	So what just because someone believes in God and that he died on the cross does not make someone a Christian.
	And I'm not saying that I'm a good Christian because a good Christian, you're making decisions consistently to be a Christian.
	Every day you have to make that decision.
	But your argument is not that you are a Christian because you believe that Jesus died on the cross because that's also what the devil believes.
	So does that make the devil also a Christian?
	Does that make the devil a Christian?
	Is that your end question?
	Nicola, if you're not going to be able to do that.
	Let me rephrase the question because I understand what you're saying.
	But kept saying, I'm sorry, but kept cheating on you over and over again.
	Would you really believe that he loved you?
	Well, in my opinion, men who cheat can still love their partners.
	But would you believe that he loved you if he cheated on you?
	As I just said, men who cheat can still love their partners.
	Here, here, let's just make it super simple and basic, right?
	Super simple, basic question.
	Would you say that it's God or the devil who prefers you do OnlyFans?
	Which one?
	I don't think probably the fucking devil, to be honest.
	Yeah, probably the devil.
	So if the devil wants you to do OnlyFans, what would God prefer you do?
	Not do OnlyFans.
	Oh, so then, and are you consciously doing OnlyFans on purpose, even though you know that this is against God's preference?
	Yeah, and like I said, your father is the devil.
	Do you understand that?
	Your father is a faithful.
	Oh my God, I'm a Satanist.
	I'm a Satanist.
	You guys call me the devil.
	And I'm going to keep doing it.
	That is your father.
	Your father is not God.
	Your father's the devil.
	All right, you caught me.
	I don't believe in that.
	Literally, he died for our sins because we're thieves and do all that crazy stuff.
	So I don't believe what he says.
	Neither do I, but there's no.
	No, no, you don't believe what I said.
	What would you call it other than satanic to know that God doesn't want you to do a thing and you willfully do it anyway and spit in his face?
	What would you call that?
	Everyone.
	Is that satanic?
	It's called being a sinner.
	That's a good question.
	I believe she has.
	It's not your turn.
	I believe she has.
	What would that be?
	I believe that she hasn't had the chance or the luxury of her since she was younger.
	Yeah, she hasn't had the chance.
	What chances has she not had?
	She literally just got those things.
	Just so you know, let me reiterate this.
	I asked her, Do you think that God or the devil would prefer you to OnlyFans?
	She says the devil.
	And I said, What would God prefer?
	Well, for me not to do it.
	What are you going to do it anyway?
	Yes.
	What do you mean, what chance?
	That's literally a person who is saying, on purpose, I'm going to, I'm going to be the enemy of what I think God's will is.
	How is that not satanic?
	Can you explain that?
	I'm not saying that it's not satanic.
	You're saying you said that her dad is the devil or whatever.
	Her father is the best.
	Well, okay, so if the father, the thing that you worship, is telling you to do a thing and you go against it, and instead you're insistent on going against or going towards the other thing to lead you, then you're treating that thing as the father, right?
	Yeah, you're just called a sinner, not the devil's like daughter.
	I would argue that, Nicolette, you said that.
	Bro, you're making a linguistic fallacy here.
	So if you are doing the will of the devil, I know that God wants you to.
	If you're doing the will of the devil and you're following the devil, how's the devil not acting as the father for you?
	Because just because you're a sinner doesn't mean you're not a Christian and God is not your father.
	Does Jesus reference your father the devil multiple times in the Bible?
	I don't know.
	We're all sinners.
	What is he referencing?
	Sinners, you're a sinner.
	What is he referencing?
	He's referencing a rejection of God.
	Yes.
	So there's a big distinction.
	Probably the worst is the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which is the unforgivable sin.
	And it's actually a sin to judge with people.
	So you're sinning right now.
	Stop talking.
	I'm talking.
	So the unforgivable sin is the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, right?
	So the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is, I know for sure that Jesus is divine, but reject his will anyway.
	That's blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
	So it's the rejection of the divinity of Christ.
	So how else would your father be anything but the devil?
	I don't understand that.
	It's a sin to judge, and you're doing it over and over and over.
	No, it's not a sin to judge.
	You just made up shit.
	You're making up shit.
	It's not a sin to judge.
	We judge all the time.
	It's called righteous judgment.
	We're instructed to judge in the Bible many, many times.
	It's an atheist talking point.
	You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, as usual.
	Nicolette, I think like this, the way that you say it is like you said that being a Christian means serving God and telling people about his word.
	And I would argue, and again, I can't judge who's saved and who's not saved.
	Only God is the one that can judge that.
	But I would say based on your actions and what you've spoken, that you're not actively serving God.
	And that is a scary place to be in.
	And honestly, I would urge you just to repent and go before the Lord and to turn to him into his righteousness.
	And because it's a much better way of life, like these ways that you're living right now, I think in a few years' time will be really, really harmful to you.
	And you'll see that later and you'll be at a bad place.
	But again, like that's between you and God.
	You're right.
	It is between me and him.
	So that's why I don't like to talk about religion.
	What do you want to talk about, the football team?
	Well, when you make, you have to understand that when you make this claim, I am this thing, when other people who are that thing say, no, you're not, right?
	You are talking about religion.
	The second you state, I am the thing, then you are saying there's certain attributes and criteria that I follow, which make me this thing.
	And so, of course, people who are actually that thing are going to be like, what the fuck are you talking about?
	That's not what this thing is.
	I don't like to talk about it because of people like you.
	They're going to tell me, you're not a right Christian.
	You're the devil's child.
	GMD Jim donated $200.
	Thank you, Jim.
	We all serve a master.
	Thank you.
	We have no choice.
	If you do not serve a God and his only begotten son, you are serving Satan.
	And that's why you would say your father's the devil, right?
	The servant of the devil.
	And that's why, like, what you're saying, I genuinely, I'm so sorry.
	I genuinely don't give a fuck about your opinion.
	So you're talking, you're talking, but you're not going to like change my life.
	It's irrelevant whether or not you care about my opinion.
	It's not relevant to me whether you care.
	There's tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, potentially millions of people who will see the clips from this show.
	They will care about my opinion.
	You're irrelevant as far as that goes.
	You are here in order for an assessment of worldviews to take place and that other thousands of other people can see the assessment between the distinct worldviews and make their own decision.
	I'm not confident I could ever bring you, a person who says, I know God wants me to stop doing this, but fuck that guy.
	I'm not sure I could ever bring you to the sound reason of thought or logic.
	I'm not sure I could ever do that.
	So I believe that there can be gay Christians.
	You can argue the same thing about them.
	They're knowingly committing a sin, but that doesn't make them any less of a Christian than anyone else who's not gay.
	Yeah, so you're, again, you're making a massive category error.
	There are Christians who I think could have same-sex attraction who do not act on the same sex attraction.
	Instead, they avoid that sin and devote their life to God.
	You're doing the opposite.
	What you do is go, I know this is a sin.
	I'm just going to do it anyway because fuck God.
	That's what you're saying.
	That's crazy that you just said that.
	That's a big difference.
	Do you understand the difference between a man who says, I have same-sex attraction and this is a vice that I struggle with, but I'm purposely not doing it to devote my life to God versus you who say, I know this is a sin, but I'm going to do it anyway.
	So the fact that I was willing to hear you out until you just said, F God, I will not stand for that.
	I don't fucking do or the way I live my life.
	That's very fucking disrespectful.
	And I would never do that.
	So fuck you.
	Do you understand the distinction of me giving a prefix for no?
	I don't like what you just said.
	I don't like what you just said.
	I'm sorry.
	Excuse me.
	Do you think that God?
	Do you think that God doesn't understand what I just said?
	Do you think he doesn't know what I just said?
	No, I don't.
	Do you think that you trying to convince people that I said a thing I didn't say matters?
	It doesn't matter.
	No, what I'm upset about is that you said that I'm saying that, and that's disrespectful.
	You are saying that.
	How are you not saying that?
	You literally said to me, I know that this is a sin.
	It's of the devil, and I'm going to do it anyway.
	How's that not spitting in God's face?
	You're disgusting.
	You're disgusting.
	Explain it.
	That's fucking.
	Explain how it's not spitting in God's face.
	You're disgusting.
	You get gang-banged on camera.
	You're worried about me being disgusting.
	I can already tell that.
	You take dicks in your mouth in front of other men and I'm the disgusting one.
	Can you explain one more time how you can spit in God's face and then pretend that you're obeying his will and I'm the disgusting one?
	Can you explain that?
	Literally, suck a dick.
	I don't really give a fuck about your face.
	Yeah, suck a dick.
	That's what you do for a living, not what I do.
	I don't like that kind of talk.
	He's disgusting.
	I can't.
	I don't respect him at all.
	Can God forgive if he did only fans?
	Can he forgive?
	For his wrongs.
	Of course.
	Absolutely.
	I've always wandered that because I'm very interested in going to the church.
	I'm going.
	Actually, the whole reason that God sent Jesus was because someone like me, a thief, like someone that judges, that's why he literally died on the cross.
	So like that is literally why he came.
	Like the, you know how a lot of people say like, well, it's just like I don't go to church because there's a bunch of hypocrites.
	Like literally Jesus died because of hypocrites.
	So like we are his fans.
	You know, like God does forgive and stuff like that.
	Yes, murders go to heaven, but only forgive if you want to be forgiven because we have free will.
	So it's just if you want to be forgiven, you know, because, for example, you said, I know I'm saved, I'm going to heaven.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I'll stop.
	It's okay.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be good.
	What?
	Rude.
	Okay.
	Oh, you're the designated reader.
	Go ahead.
	Thank you, North Bay.
	I didn't know you were a bulldog.
	That's crazy, man.
	But it's strictly hornets over here.
	NHS Mustang Bulldog.
	But you cooled up, bro.
	North Bay, thank you for that message.
	I don't know.
	Nick, are you wearing a shirt or something?
	It's my high school.
	Oh.
	How did that come up?
	And if you can read this one, please.
	If Nicolette spent as much time filling her head with knowledge and literature as much as she does filling it with pee-pee and doing seminal fluid instead, we could actually have an argument.
	Killer of cereal.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Did you hear what she just said?
	Say it again for them all to hear.
	I was like, she just brings in the most money.
	Thank you.
	I mean, it's been a slow night, to be honest, Nicolette.
	You're not doing the best.
	You're welcome.
	I tried with a fucking hat, okay?
	She tried.
	She did try.
	Well, maybe we can come back to some of that conversation later.
	I'd like to take it back to dating a little bit here.
	Has anybody here had a roster?
	A roster?
	A roster.
	What's that?
	Anissa?
	Have you ever had a roster when it comes to dating?
	I have not.
	Because I feel like you have Riz.
	So, like, I feel like you just slay.
	What the?
	I haven't.
	No?
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I do not know what it means.
	Multiple men, dating multiple men.
	No.
	A lot of options.
	Roster.
	No roster.
	Do you play sports?
	I've said a lot.
	Yes, I did.
	But not what you probably think.
	I did.
	Badminton.
	I said, not what you probably think.
	I did cheer and softball.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Ever had a roster of guys?
	No.
	What?
	No?
	None of you?
	No?
	No roster?
	No.
	You've never had a roster?
	Dating app?
	No roster?
	Because, I don't know, you two are friends, right?
	I feel like you guys got Riz.
	Like, what's it called?
	What's that?
	Like, Sleeper Riz.
	You guys have Sleeper Riz.
	Okay.
	Nicolette, roster.
	Dylan Joe donated $199.
	Sorry to interrupt.
	Thank you, Dylan.
	Love you, Brian and Fam.
	I just sent an email to Madison because I want to send you guys a hand-painted portrait to show my love.
	Andrew, burn this switch.
	The power of Christ compels her.
	That's crazy.
	Yo, Dylan, thank you for the TTS, man.
	Appreciate it.
	I mean, you can also, if you want to email me too, brian at whatever.com, if you want.
	We have a couple pieces of artwork in the studio from viewers.
	So, yeah, we hang it, I guess.
	Roster, Nicolette.
	Well, this may come as a surprise to you all, but yes, I have.
	Huge surprise.
	Massive surprise.
	Didn't see it coming.
	The football team.
	Was it the offensive or defensive line?
	I don't know their position.
	All I know is their position, like in bed.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Well, I'm not done, Nicolette.
	Okay.
	How many guys from the football team did you?
	Only like four.
	Only four.
	Yeah, only.
	Only four.
	Yeah.
	And it was just one football team?
	Is this like in high school?
	Dude, why'd you have to ask that question?
	That's kind of weird.
	That's kind of weird, huh?
	Why is that weird?
	It was either in high school or in college.
	Unless it was like.
	Okay, don't even go there, Don.
	I mean, I mean, yes, high school.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	At your high school?
	Yes.
	Huh?
	Okay.
	Tell us, how big has the roster been, though?
	Oh, like I said, only like four or three.
	Okay.
	I thought you were talking just about the football team, but maybe there was.
	Yeah, no, no.
	I can only handle so much dick at a time.
	Oh, boy.
	Hold on, I got.
	Get the rocks.
	Above.
	Yeah, get the rocks.
	Get the rocks.
	Damn.
	Okay.
	That's cool.
	Roster?
	No.
	No roster.
	You got a roster?
	Never had a boyfriend?
	Nope.
	Never a roster?
	When I love, I love hard.
	Only one man.
	Can we see the tattoos again?
	I think that the chat wants to see the tattoos.
	So you got.
	Oh, you know, I'm getting rid of them.
	I don't know how to show them.
	I guess you gotta stand on the chair or something.
	Oh, no.
	Can you not see?
	I don't think you can see from there.
	There it is.
	Devil Angel.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What was the explanation again for the tattoos?
	Oh, like when I was younger, I mean, my name is Angelic, it's because I kind of realized growing up, in some people's stories, you're going to be like an angel, and other people's stories, you're like the worst person alive, and like the devil.
	Like everyone's perception of you is different, and I found that interesting.
	Got it.
	Roster?
	Ever had a roster?
	No, I never had a roster.
	Actually, I'll ask you this.
	Remind me to ask you about the burger thing after the show.
	Let's see.
	Oh, icks.
	You wanted to talk about icks.
	Let's get into icks.
	So, going around the table, give us at least one ick, but if you have two or three, we'd like to hear more.
	Starting, why don't we start on this side over here?
	We'll start with you, go around this way.
	Yeah, I probably have a few.
	Men that dress really zesty is a big ick.
	Like, really fruity, zesty men, not about it.
	Men that are.
	Sorry, sorry, sorry, go ahead.
	Men that are liberals, not a fan.
	Not a fan of it.
	Not about it.
	Liberal men.
	Atheists, a religious.
	Let me see.
	Short men for the ick.
	Short men.
	Yeah, shorter than me.
	I think you lost.
	You're going to lose a couple of people.
	How tall are you?
	5'5.
	5'5.
	Not that tall.
	So you'll date a guy who's 5'6.
	Yeah.
	Sometimes like eye contact is nice.
	I'm pretty into the guy I'm seeing now.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so zesty, liberal, atheist, and short.
	Yeah.
	Ick.
	Essentially.
	All right.
	Angelic, what are some icks for you?
	Honestly, I don't really have that many.
	I would say that one that I've noticed is like when a man just doesn't take care of himself, like he orders takeout every single day.
	Like he just doesn't.
	I don't know.
	He just doesn't keep up with himself.
	Like I hate it.
	Sorry.
	Damn, I feel personally attacked.
	Sorry.
	Door dash every day, bro.
	Every day.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Short temper.
	Why you guys throw me under the bus like this, man?
	All right.
	What about you?
	Whenever they wear their shorts past their knees.
	Makes sense.
	That's valid.
	Nicolette.
	So I hate when they mansplain.
	I hate guys who paint their nails.
	I hate when guys wear that one dingly cross earring on one ear.
	Those are my icks.
	Gives you the ick.
	Okay, all right.
	What's mansplaining for those who don't know?
	So, mansplaining, so I saw a funny meme.
	So, say this is a guy saying this to a girl.
	Well, mansplaining is when men explain.
	Profound.
	That's profound.
	No, let's like say a guy, that's a guy, my example of a guy mansplaining.
	Okay.
	Any icks?
	What are the icks?
	Having a girl best friend.
	Okay.
	A girl best friend.
	Any others?
	Any other icks?
	Being like one of those weird mamas boys where they're like in love with their mom and like the mom is in love with the son in like a really weird way though.
	In a weird way.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So how's that?
	Have you experienced that with the guy you've dated?
	No.
	I've experienced the girl best friend, but not the mom.
	But I've had friends that have experienced that.
	So would you date a guy who had female friends?
	Yeah.
	But not what if it's the best friend?
	No?
	No.
	Okay.
	You think, why is that?
	Because it usually causes trust issues.
	Okay.
	But you stayed when he called your best friend's name when he was kissing.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's rich.
	Yeah, it's like there's.
	He cannot have a best friend, but he can call your best friend's name when kissing.
	Yeah.
	Do you have any close male friends?
	No.
	No.
	Any male friends?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I would say no ambition and addicted to video games.
	Oh, addicted to video games.
	Okay.
	Andrew might have thoughts on that one, but what about you?
	Yeah, well, I mean, that would just rule me out, you know.
	Damn.
	If you spend like more than I would say four hours a day, that's cat.
	That's casual.
	Really?
	Wow.
	Men spend.
	Well, I don't.
	I've never really understood this because men do spend tons of time on their hobbies.
	So whether they're doing, so I have a good friend of mine, for instance, he's a leather worker, very, very, very skilled leather worker.
	And for leather workers, the more gaudy they can make a thing, the better it is.
	And he has just thousands of tools.
	And he can actually take your face and put your face in a piece of leather.
	That's how good he is.
	He spends, I don't know how much time on it.
	He never makes any money at it.
	He doesn't want to make any money at it.
	He just does it as a hobby and he's obsessive about it.
	And yeah, I would say probably not every day he would spend four hours, but if you were to average all of the time he has spent on it, it would probably average to like four hours a day, probably.
	What would be like real-world positives of spending four hours per day gaming?
	What would be the positives of spending four hours a day leather working?
	That you can actually create something like malleable, like a real physical item.
	I mean, what if you don't?
	What if you don't?
	You're just doing it because he's not creating physical items for anybody.
	He just makes stuff for the fun of making it.
	Yeah.
	It's not for the benefit of anybody except him.
	So like what does that actually do for anybody except him?
	Nothing, but what does gaming do?
	Yeah, but I mean, even if it does nothing, why would one of those be appropriate, not the other one?
	So in other words, I think that the hobby of gaming assists men with challenges, with camaraderie, and it assists them in many ways when it comes to, especially, men often will lean towards games that have incredible storylines, things like this.
	And the reason for this is because you can't, as a man, anymore in modernity in the West, you're not going to go be an adventurer anymore.
	You're not going to go get on a ship to the new world.
	You're not going to be going and exploring the depths of the ocean.
	You're going to be kind of living that through novels and various things like this.
	Video games offer challenges.
	They offer escape and they offer camaraderie.
	And I don't actually see why there's a big problem with that.
	Maybe you can change my mind because when I'm thinking about it too, it also offers community to men as well.
	Also, you can't go on like a seven-kill streak in Battlefield.
	Huh?
	Yeah, well, there's not that many ways other than maybe at your job for men to compete with each other anymore.
	That's true.
	Right?
	We can't really just go to the gladiator sand and just beat the shit out of each other.
	The world has moved past that.
	So unless you have like a sanctioned UFC fight or something specific or particular that way, video games are a really good way for men to compete with each other from all over the world.
	And they seem to have a lot of fun doing it.
	It builds a lot of camaraderie.
	They have a good time.
	I don't really see why it's such a problematic hobby for women.
	Can I push back?
	Because I'm just, I'm genuinely curious because for me, as my mother is.
	I know why.
	Go ahead.
	You could probably change my mind.
	But then, so if you're looking for that, then why don't you do like UFC or something like that?
	And then when you're doing video games, it's almost like you go into a different fantasy land, which what you were explaining.
	But genuinely, I'm just curious.
	Well, so boxing, boxing, pugilism, UFC, things like this, they cause damage to one's body.
	And so as a man, if you have the option of taking care of your family, you have to limit the amount of damage which is done to your body, especially from the form of a hobby.
	Otherwise, you cannot continue to produce the work necessary to continue to support a family.
	So if that is the case, and it is the case for most men, in fact, many men's jobs damage their body enough.
	They couldn't even do boxing or competition external to that anyway.
	Construction, concrete laying, things like this are incredibly damaging to the body over time.
	They end up with back problems, arm problems, neck problems.
	There's no construction worker I've known who's worked construction for more than 10 years that doesn't have actual issues with their body.
	So I think that they have tempering responsibility with escapism and also with competition.
	And it seems to be a fine hobby.
	I don't really see what the problem with the hobby itself is.
	Because I read a lot, and that's kind of like my form of like going into another world, I guess, and thinking.
	So I guess I never just put two and two together that that's why men are gaming.
	Well, it's not, I think when people say, I'm going into another world, that's even not the case.
	What's happening is ideas are conveyed best through story.
	So if you want to convey an idea to a person, you can use straight philosophy to convey an idea, but most people don't understand philosophy.
	Like take our OnlyFans friend over here.
	She doesn't understand anything about argumentation, philosophy, nothing.
	But maybe I could convey things to her in story form and she would understand some of those concepts.
	So when you're relaying experiences through story, it's not even just escapism.
	It's a way for you to engage with concepts that could be bothersome or new to you and a way to reconcile those concepts.
	And that's how human beings have been communicating great ideas since the dawn of time.
	I like that thought process.
	And thank you.
	I never thought about it like that.
	I used to play video games, although I don't anymore.
	I stopped in 2020 or so.
	Stopped playing video games entirely.
	But I think part of it is why women don't like men who play video games is because leisure time activities, whether video games or otherwise, are not something that they can benefit from.
	So I think it's really as simple as that.
	You don't see that.
	Yeah, I got to get pushback to this.
	So men do podcasting as a hobby, right?
	You would agree with me that almost no man ever is going to be able to make a career out of podcasting.
	Like basically nobody who's in the field of podcasting for the most part is ever going to be able to make a career out of it.
	Sure, yeah, most men.
	And they devote hours and hours to it though, right?
	Oftentimes without ever being able to build an audience or this type of thing.
	Sure.
	So, I mean, I think that this is the same kind of practical application of video games, right?
	Same thing.
	It's like you can take this hobby and you can say, well, you get nothing out of it.
	I think men get a lot out of it.
	Why did you stop playing?
	Well, no, so I'm not saying that the men don't gain benefit from it.
	I'm saying the women don't gain benefit.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm sorry.
	I misunderstood.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The women don't gain any benefit from men playing video games.
	I would argue that I love when my ex played games because that was my time for him to shut the fuck up and me just like.
	Why did you stop playing?
	Shut the fuck up.
	Okay.
	Why did you stop playing?
	Well, I played a lot and it was distracting me from pursuing other things.
	I think it can be an addiction for sure.
	And even reading or any kind of escapism can be an addiction.
	And it can be like if you want to go and like live in another reality and like escape to that, I think you have a serious internal problem.
	And it's like not wrong to take time and to relax and to explore concepts or to even like play video games for an hour a day.
	But when it becomes an addiction, that's where I think like the itch comes from or like that's where I think it becomes a problem.
	Not just video games, but really anything.
	Yeah, well, I mean, you're right that I think that you can lose yourself in any passion.
	You can play the guitar too much.
	You can lose yourself in any passion which you have.
	But honestly, I think that most women just get the ick from video games because the attention's not on them and they just like seeing men miserable, honestly.
	I mean, it's not, there's no good answer for it.
	Women will spend hours of their fucking time doing their nails.
	Hours.
	I've seen it.
	Hours and hours and hours.
	In fact, show of hands, how many women here have spent multiple hours on their nails?
	Show of hands.
	Yeah, okay.
	But somehow that's okay.
	That's appropriate.
	That's fine.
	What's that?
	Yeah, what else is it?
	Or my hair, hair.
	Hang on, what do you mean it's not?
	What else is it?
	Besides a luxury?
	What else could it be?
	It's a luxury.
	It's a form of spoiling yourself.
	I do it so that I look presentable.
	But time is the most expensive thing ever, right?
	So if a man wants to spend his very expensive time on just gaming, why won't you just let him be?
	No, I'm not arguing that he shouldn't.
	That's a luxury too, right?
	If you can make time.
	No, hang on.
	I want you to think of how unreasonable it would be if a man came over to you and was like, you know what?
	I'm sick of you spending this much time on your nails.
	You spend hours on your nails.
	It's ridiculous.
	Well, you might be like, look, I like doing it.
	Mind your own business.
	You know, go away, whatever.
	And I think that that would be totally justified.
	But for some reason, men having some form of thing that they're interested in, which isn't you, just seems to make women fucking miserable in a way that I don't really understand.
	I don't understand because women have all sorts of flitty, stupid ass hobbies.
	They scrapbook.
	They do their nails incessantly.
	They focus on putting pictures together in certain categories.
	They focus on all kinds of stupid ass shit.
	And men don't give a fuck, but somehow when men play Red Dead Redemption 2, they ain't playing that stupid game again.
	It's like, yeah, I'm playing the stupid game again.
	Go away.
	You know, I don't get it.
	I would say that women, innately, when you don't have God or something else to take that place in your life, fill that hole in your heart, they will look to their partners to do that.
	And so maybe the types of relationships that you're talking about stem from women who look to their partners like they're God and they just want all of their attention.
	And when you don't give it to them, then it's wrong.
	But I would say that when you're in a healthy relationship where you're not each other's idols, then like it is okay for a man to have another hobby like playing video games.
	Like maybe it's equal to me getting my nails done and doing my hair or whatever.
	Like you should have your own.
	I mean, who cares if it's equal?
	If he spends two more hours or five more hours or ten more hours per week playing video games than you do doing your nails, who gives a shit?
	Well, yeah, people have different hobbies.
	As long as it's not an addiction and it's not overtaking your life and like you're doing that, that's fine.
	Well, the thing is, though, is that you have to even be cautious with that, right?
	It's like oftentimes what I'll hear from women is, oh, they're addicted to video games.
	And what that really means is they're not spending enough time doing this other thing that I want them to do.
	And so they consider an addiction when there's no addiction.
	It's like people, people who get off of work, they didn't get off work.
	They just worked, let's say, 10, 12 hours.
	And by the way, the eight-hour workday in America is dead.
	Men work generally 10-12 hours now.
	They don't really work eight-hour shifts anymore.
	You can't support a family on that.
	We all know that.
	So they're working their asses off.
	They get home and they're like, look, just let me eat and play a fucking video game and get off my back.
	And it's like, that seems totally fair to me and reasonable.
	You know, I just don't know why the idea that men just must be, you know, all the time working towards some goal to pamper a woman's ass just is just bothersome to me.
	It makes no sense.
	Yeah, you've made me rethink a lot.
	So I'll say my icks are, I guess, yeah, just like nothing going for them, like, doesn't have any drive to do anything, but video games is out.
	Icks.
	I had something similar, like no goals, basically.
	Also, no driver's license is a big one.
	No driver's license, okay?
	That's fair.
	You know, that's fair.
	Yeah.
	And then someone who doesn't go to the gym.
	Doesn't go to the gym.
	Okay.
	Icks for you?
	I think very bad teeth.
	Bad teeth.
	Very bad.
	Yeah.
	Fair.
	How are Tristan Tate's teeth?
	Okay.
	All right.
	It's really funny to me how many European women say that, even though European women especially are kind of like known globally and British people and English people especially for having bad teeth.
	But for some reason, that's always a big priority that I hear from European women.
	That's true.
	A lot of Get Teeth saw on basic surgery, but I never had anything with my teeth.
	I just like normal teeth.
	Yeah, well, I would just wonder if the reason for that is because it's so common that when you see a man or a woman with good teeth, you're like, wow, that's an exception to the rule.
	It's a little bit idolized as well.
	Yeah, it's like, oh, they have to have good teeth, they have to be pro-white.
	They go to therapy all the time.
	My friends go all the time just for their teeth.
	Yeah, it's true what you're saying.
	Icks.
	Acting nonchalant is a big ick.
	As well as not being confident, so there's kind of like a spectrum there.
	Like, can't be nonchalant and like not care about your partner, be too confident, but also don't be insecure.
	Okay.
	Or overly insecure.
	Like, at least try to project confidence.
	You said acting nonchalant.
	Yeah.
	So how does that look like?
	Like acting like you don't care about your partner or acting like you don't care when they have a concern or when or letting them care more about your relationship is being nonchalant.
	Isn't that the best dynamic though?
	When the girl cares more than the guy?
	That's the worst.
	Do you prefer it when the guy's more into you than you're into him?
	I think it should be equal.
	Or equal.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Anybody here have a preference there?
	You prefer the guy be more into you than you're into him or the reverse?
	More into him.
	You more into him?
	You more into him?
	I think it only works when the guy's more into you.
	Okay.
	What do you think?
	I like refuse to chase a man.
	Refused?
	Okay.
	So more into you than the reverse?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I want them to be more into me.
	I like whenever I'm more into them.
	I'm more into him.
	More into him.
	When he's pursuing, he's more into me.
	Okay.
	A couple different answers here.
	We've had this conversation on the show before.
	I definitely think it's the case that relationships work seem to work out better when the woman's more into the man than the reverse.
	Also, I'm not even sure if I believe some of you.
	Because it's like there's probably plenty of guys who you turn down who are like really, really into you.
	So I think this added level of interest doesn't change your attraction to them.
	I think it has to be like a certain amount.
	So not like overly, but also like enough that it's like desirable.
	And also along with what you said, I had the opposite experience.
	So with my ex, I was putting in way more effort.
	I was way more into him than he was into me.
	Like you were simping for him, kind of?
	No, it's just that I stayed with him when he was acting uninterested.
	And yeah, that's not how it should be.
	Wait, you said you were putting in way more effort.
	Yeah, so.
	So, how so?
	Like, I would try to spend, like, he never took me on dates or he stopped.
	So he used to take you on dates?
	Yeah.
	And then he stopped.
	Yeah.
	And then were you taking him on dates?
	No, but I would try to, and he would have, like, some excuse for it.
	Okay.
	I think, like, for sure, like, when you're dating, I like for like the man to, well, I mean, like, you know, when my husband, he was pursuing me, and then when we got married, it switched, and it worked out great for me.
	Well, I don't know if we heard the rest of.
	I'm sorry, I didn't hear you.
	No, you didn't cut me off.
	Yeah, that was.
	Was there more?
	No.
	Okay.
	But you said you put in more effort.
	So he used to take you on on dates, but then he stopped, and you tried, but then he lost.
	Yeah, so I feel like there's like a lack of effort on his part.
	Okay.
	Or lack of pursuing.
	How long were you guys dating for?
	About a year.
	This was the one-year guy?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And you okay with your nails over there?
	So how long?
	How soon into the relationship did he stop taking you out on dates?
	Some months then.
	Isn't that pretty normal though?
	Like, I think that's pretty normal.
	You get comfortable.
	Not too comfortable.
	So when you were first dating, what he was taking you out?
	Like for dinner?
	What was he doing?
	Yeah, like normal couple stuff going out.
	Mini golf?
	Like dinner.
	Dinner.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Were you guys living together?
	No, this was in high school.
	So I mean, a lot of it, like, underlying is just immaturity.
	Sure.
	But yeah.
	Isn't that kind of normal though?
	Like, there's the courtship and then, well, okay, well, we're boyfriend, girlfriend.
	Now we can just like kick it.
	And chill and stay inside and do nothing.
	Isn't that kind of that's normal, right?
	What kind of relationship has y'all been?
	I think there should be a balance of both where you can't kick it and do nothing, and then you also go out on dates at the same time.
	And there is effort from both parties that both are participating in because you just like hanging out with each other.
	I don't know.
	I think after like three dates, as a man, you should just kind of stop putting effort in.
	I think it's a woman's job as well to put effort in.
	Why would a man take you on dates if you're giving a headache or anything at all?
	You know what?
	I actually want to retract my last statement.
	After the first date, you should stop putting effort in.
	Really?
	As the man.
	That's how you get cheated on.
	Girls get bored.
	It's a woman's job as well, right?
	To surprise a man, take him on a date sometimes.
	If you're in a relationship and she takes you out on a date, would you go?
	You can still have a date together.
	Would I go?
	Yeah, you say you have to stop as a man doing dates.
	But if she asks you out on a date, like, hey, I still love you.
	We've been inside for a month.
	Let's go out.
	Well, I'm kind of a, I'm pretty introverted and I'm a homebody.
	So, um.
	All right, if she put on the candles, make orders, dinner.
	It's still a date, right?
	You do not have to go out for a date.
	You can see the movie.
	Yeah.
	But it's still a date, right?
	You do not have to go.
	How's the dragon?
	Breaking bad.
	Yeah, you do not have to go out for a date, then it's still a date.
	Four dash.
	It's perfect, yeah.
	Then it's still a date, right?
	So you still do little dates.
	Spend time together.
	Yeah, but I think when a girl thinks of a date, it's like, we're going to go out.
	No, not all the time.
	Going out.
	Time is very expensive.
	It's the most expensive.
	Yeah, but it's just.
	Is just spending time together a date?
	I think I think so because you're spending something very expensive.
	Go ahead.
	You should be like demonstrating effort.
	So even if you are staying inside, do something that demonstrates putting effort into your life.
	Put on that stupid candle.
	It's fine.
	I do.
	Put on some lingerie.
	I demonstrate effort all the time.
	I invite her over to my place.
	Yeah, that's effort.
	That is effort.
	It is.
	And if she puts on some hot lingerie for you, that's a day too.
	I text my thumbs, they get tired, come home.
	It's effort.
	So you do the effort.
	Huh?
	So you do the effort.
	Yeah, I put it on.
	Then it's a woman's job to make the date of the date better.
	If you invite her over, you're dating.
	I want to get the women's feedback on this.
	I think this is a great date.
	I invite a girl over to do a laundry date and a clean my room date.
	Sure.
	And we should show the bow.
	And by that, I mean, I don't mean like we do it together.
	I just do something else while you do it for me.
	You're seriously dating?
	Huh?
	You're seriously dating at that point?
	Very seriously.
	Oh, yeah, I would.
	If she's willing to do that for me.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	First date, she should do my laundry.
	Yeah, you're the man.
	First date.
	I would say first date, she should do my laundry.
	I would.
	Hold on.
	Women will have sex on the first date, but she can't do my laundry.
	I would.
	Hold on.
	I would, darling.
	I would.
	Wait, Nicolete, you've had a one-night stand, right?
	Think about the football guys.
	This is your cat's phrase.
	So you allowed them to be inside of you, but you wouldn't fold their laundry?
	Not on the first date.
	You had carnal knowledge.
	You had carnal knowledge on the first date, Nicolette.
	I wouldn't fold their clothes on the first date.
	But you would let their penis inside you?
	Absolutely, because I'm getting something out of that.
	Yeah, she's also getting something out of folding my laundry.
	What?
	Satisfaction?
	Pleased with her.
	Satisfaction.
	Well, I want to be pleased.
	Let's do the bow video.
	Let's play the bow video.
	This is my ex-girlfriend.
	We broke up, but I filmed this.
	Go ahead, Nick, in my apartment.
	Boom!
	Huge bow.
	Check that out.
	She practiced that.
	Wait, that's your ex-girlfriend?
	That's my ex-girlfriend, yeah.
	I had her, yeah.
	So that's my, you know, she's getting my clothes, laundry.
	The dinner's ready.
	I came home.
	Look, I came home from a long day of podcasting, and she's got my beer ready.
	I was upset with her that with the tomatoes, I don't like tomatoes, but she not even cut tomatoes, just a bunch of tomatoes.
	One more time, just see, let's see the bow.
	Boom!
	Huge.
	You're gonna die, Brian.
	Wait, why am I gonna die?
	After the last podcast, remember I did a bow for everybody on stream?
	Actually, I want to go home.
	I did it recently to a guy.
	How did it go?
	How did it go?
	He laughed and he's like, What the fuck?
	Did it work?
	Well, I mean, he laughed.
	But I did it wrong.
	You said I did it like.
	No, you don't do it.
	It has to be like meek hands here.
	Like a prison pose.
	Angelic right now.
	Submissive.
	Like submissive.
	I don't know.
	It came like as an instinct.
	I just did it.
	He was like, what are you doing?
	Yeah, and so did he like it?
	I mean, he did not like it.
	Oh, wait.
	I guess he liked it probably.
	See, it works.
	It works.
	Listen, all the ladies here at the table, you might not want to do it.
	I'm just giving you some advice.
	Next time you're with a guy who you really like, just hit him with a bow.
	Oh, well.
	That's so hand in Dow.
	Another bow?
	Won't do the bow?
	No, I'm not going to do the bow.
	Why won't you do a bow?
	It's degrading.
	Wait, hold on.
	If a man is paying for the house, space for everything, and just expect a little bow when he gets home.
	And he pays for everything.
	He makes you secure.
	You do not have to work.
	You don't do shit in the house.
	He does everything.
	What do you do?
	What should do for you that making dinner wouldn't do for you?
	Oh, she has to do that too.
	And what's the difference between bowing and getting on your knees?
	You can be on your knees.
	You can clear to see for that men as well.
	What's the difference?
	Get your mind out of the gutter, Nicole.
	So, really quick to you.
	I think in your pre-show notes, you mentioned you believe marriage is really important, right?
	Okay, so I know there's like a cultural component here.
	But I assume you want your future boyfriend to propose to you.
	Yeah.
	Will this involve him getting down on one knee?
	If you want to, yeah.
	Well, typically, that's what typically.
	Yeah, it'sn't getting like getting down on a knee and like looking up.
	Hold on.
	Where is it?
	Oh, yeah.
	Please marry me.
	That, wait, what was the word you used?
	It's degrading?
	Did you say degrading?
	Was it degrading for me?
	For women to bow to a man, yes.
	I think it's degrading for men to get down on one knee and spend three months' salary on a wedding ring.
	Please be with me.
	That's degrading.
	Disagree.
	Here's why.
	Wait, wait, hold on.
	But what takes more, like, what burns more calories?
	Kneeling or the bow?
	It doesn't matter what born.
	Just think about it, though.
	It takes more effort to kneel.
	I have bad knees too.
	I think a bow.
	I got bad knees.
	I think a bow is more like worship.
	Like, when I think of a bow, I think I'm worshiping this person.
	What's wrong with you?
	You are.
	It's just your partner for the rest of your life.
	So you die.
	The only person I worship and will bow before is God.
	And my God in heaven.
	Like, I'm not going to bow before anybody else.
	No man, no person.
	It's a religious thing.
	But I will say.
	Hold on.
	But wait.
	Do not adopt.
	If your husband, you're going to be submissive to your husband, right?
	Yes.
	And he says, bow for me.
	If you look at the context of the scripture, if you're going to go there, and you have a husband that is tone.
	If you want to do something that is against the will of God, I'm a Christian and I wouldn't.
	I do not have to do that.
	Andrew, what is the ecclesiastical, theological, like, can a Christian man ask his wife, expect, ask his wife to bow?
	Is it yeah, I mean, why would it, I don't understand, what would the restriction be?
	There's Christians who bow to their priests, Christians who bow to God.
	Now, I just have to ask you, are you to submit to your husband as you would unto God?
	Yeah.
	And do you bow to God?
	Yes, I bow to God, but my husband.
	Okay, so then if you submit to your husband as you would unto God, and your husband asks you to bow, why would you not bow?
	Because in my opinion, I think bowing is more of like worship type of movement, of like a heart posture, then it is more respect.
	Like, I get where you guys are coming from.
	Like, it's a sign of respect.
	I don't think it's worth it.
	I'm super confused.
	I want to untangle these thoughts so I have them untangled.
	Are you to submit to your husband as you would unto the Lord?
	My husband is not my God, but I submit to God.
	That's how I asked you.
	Let me let me explain my thought on this.
	Okay.
	When you submit to the Lord, you're submitting to his will and what God is telling you to do, right?
	Like, that's what you're referring to.
	Like, if he tells you to bow, are you going to bow?
	To God, yes.
	There's nothing that I'm saying.
	I don't understand.
	Are you to submit to your husband as you would unto the Lord or not?
	Yes, but my husband is sinful.
	And if he asks me to do a sinful thing, why is it not sinful to bow to your husband?
	So Asian Christians who bow are sinful?
	I would say that's more cultural.
	I'm talking about bowing to your husband.
	Well, then it's not sinful.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Hang on, hang on.
	So again, we have to untangle these thoughts.
	If you're in an Asian country and you murder somebody, you kill somebody without justification to your Christian values, they're doing something which is sinful even if their culture says it's okay, correct?
	No, I don't agree.
	What?
	So if their culture says it's okay to murder, it's not sinful?
	No, sorry.
	You're like losing me in this.
	Okay, well, then just engage with the question.
	What you're doing is trying to anticipate what you think I'm going to say.
	Don't do that.
	Just answer the question.
	In a culture where it's okay to murder, the Aztecs, for instance, they take you up on a pyramid, they cut your heart out, right, and give it to their sun god.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Even if culturally that's okay, you would say that ethically that is incorrect, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay, great.
	So if that is the case, when you say, okay, it's culturally okay to bow, you're also saying, but it's not sinful to bow.
	You're not saying that they shouldn't bow because it's sinful, right?
	Right.
	Because there's nothing that's not.
	If that is the case, then bowing in and of itself is not sinful.
	Yeah, I would agree.
	Bowing in and of itself is not sinful.
	And what's wrong with bowing to your husband?
	Well, because I'm talking about personally for myself, I view in my own culture and my own tradition, I view bowing.
	Like, I myself reserve that only for the Lord.
	Yeah, but is it sinful?
	Inherently, no.
	I don't think it's.
	Okay, well, then I don't understand the objection.
	If it's not sinful inherently, it's no problem inherently, and your husband asks you as a sign of respect to bow to him, what is the actual objection other than you just don't want to?
	Yeah, I mean, I guess you're right.
	That is my objection is that, and to me, and my own view, that it is sinful for me to bow to another man.
	No, So you just say for yourself.
	How is it?
	Wait, no, that makes no sense.
	That makes no sense.
	How could it be sinful from your perspective to do this thing?
	How's that sinful?
	Because there's a verse that says in James that he who knows what to do but does not do it, to him it is a sin.
	And so to me, in my own personal convictions, like I don't feel like it's appropriate for me to bow to someone else that's not God.
	And someone else is aware of that.
	Yeah, appropriate, I can see.
	I can concede to appropriate.
	If you feel like it's not appropriate to do, I can deal with that.
	But that's not what you said.
	You said personally, you feel it's sinful.
	And yet, if you say bowing is inherently not sinful, then what is the sin if you bow to your husband?
	I don't get that.
	I'm telling you, there's a verse in the Bible that says that if you know that God wants you to do something and you do not do it, then to that person, it is a sin.
	If I know God wants me to go tell this homeless person or to go give this homeless person $10 in the street and I don't go do it, I have committed a sin against God.
	That is what I'm saying.
	Are you saying that God doesn't want you to bow to your husband?
	For me?
	Yeah.
	Is it not in your father's?
	Okay, well, how do you get respects?
	No, no, I can't.
	I'm sorry.
	I got to finish this real quick.
	When you say for me, so you're saying God told you not to bow to your husband?
	Yeah, God told me only to bow to him.
	Yeah, when?
	We're in the same culture, so would it be a sin if I bowed down to my husband in your eyes?
	Yeah, well, I just want to know, when did God tell you not to bow to your husband?
	When was that conversation had?
	Oh, well, when I read the book of Daniel and Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego were going to bow down to the, or weren't bowing down to the big idol that King Nebuchadnezzar made.
	That's not an idol.
	Your husband's not an idol.
	You're not worshiping your husband like you worship God.
	You're submitting as you would unto God.
	Yeah, and for me, in my like past sinful, like when I was in unrepentant, blatant sin, I worshiped the person that I was with like an idol.
	And so for me, I'm worried about it.
	Yeah, but that's not worship.
	How is a bow a worship?
	That's not worshiping.
	Because I bow before the Lord, and that is the only person I will bow down before.
	And so for me.
	Why?
	That makes no sense.
	So if you bow to a king in Europe, that's sinful?
	Yeah, for me, yeah.
	Oh, so does the Bible, has God made kings elect?
	Has he given nations kings?
	I'm not saying that it is inherently sinful for every person to sin.
	I personally feel convicted.
	It's not sinful for every person to sin.
	Really?
	I'm talking about for, like, specifically for bowing, like for this specific thing.
	I will not bow before any other man besides God.
	I get what you're saying, and that it's not written in the Bible.
	Yeah, but I don't get what you're saying.
	I don't understand the rationale here.
	I'm trying to explain to you my own personal convictions.
	Do you not understand the difference between personal convictions and inherent sin?
	Yeah, but your personal convictions are supposed to map onto Christian ethics.
	And if you say there's nothing unethical for a Christian to bow to somebody or to bow to their husband if they choose to bow to their husband, then stated your secondary objection is the reason I don't is because God told me.
	These are two very bold claims.
	The first is saying this is not sinful, but for some reason for you it's sinful.
	That's what I don't understand.
	Because personal convictions are a different thing than like what is written in the Bible of what is inherently sinful.
	And I get what you're saying.
	Yeah, but you can't have a personal conviction that God told you to like go suck a random stranger's dick, right?
	You couldn't have that conviction.
	Why couldn't you?
	Because there's a baseline.
	Because there's a baseline of what is sinful.
	Right, there's a baseline.
	So it has to be inherently sinful also, right?
	So there's, and if you say it's not inherently sinful, then why did God convict you personally?
	You're the only person he convicted to not bow?
	I don't know what other people's convictions are, but what I'm more, like, in my opinion...
	We're talking about your convictions.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I'm talking about my convictions here.
	And because I have a tendency to worship people that I'm in a relationship with, I don't feel comfortable bowing to that person.
	I don't think that's appropriate for me to engage in.
	Yeah, appropriate is different than sinful, though.
	Okay.
	What would make it sinful?
	I'm not saying, I'm saying for me, I would feel like I'm going against God if I did this.
	For another person, like Laura over here, if she wanted to do that for her husband, I'm not saying that.
	Christian, you get married in the church, right?
	And then the priests say to obey and to respect your husband.
	Yeah, of course.
	So, if your husband asked you to bow to obey him and you wouldn't, that's a sin, right?
	Because you took a vow.
	Not necessarily, because my husband would know my convictions and like in church in front of God to obey him.
	I'm saying this bizarre, my convictions thing, right?
	So, your convictions are still going to have to be inherently or non-inherently sinful.
	They're going to have to be simple.
	How would you, if you went home tomorrow and you're like, hi, sweetheart, I just wanted to show you this sign of respect and bow to him.
	How the fuck would that ever be sinful?
	It's not inherently sinful.
	I'm agreeing with you.
	That's why I'm not saying that no one can ever.
	But I mean, even from your view of conviction, how would that be sinful?
	You promised it to me.
	Because it's setting up my heart posture to worship somebody else.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Is that how are you worshiping him?
	Because, like, this is like my natural proclivity, my natural tendencies, and so I'm guarding my own heart by not bowing to this person.
	So, anything you bow to, you worship?
	Like, you can't help yourself?
	You're just like, I have an addiction.
	You're worshiping that which I bow to?
	How often do you bow to things?
	I'm talking specifically about to my husband.
	Like, that's what I'm specifically referencing.
	Yeah, I don't, I still, I'm still lost, actually.
	I um, I don't really understand why you bowing to your husband, even if you had some conviction that you did not want to worship your husband as God, which is totally fair.
	I don't understand why it would mean if you did bow to him, you would be worshiping him.
	It doesn't mean that.
	I just wouldn't do it because it's like it's my heart posture.
	It's like affecting the way that I view this person.
	That's why I wouldn't do it.
	You asked why I wouldn't do it, and that's the reason.
	It affects the yeah, but I mean, it has to comply with reason and also the ethics which you follow.
	So, it's like just saying, Well, because it's my preference, like that's fine, but but if so, let me just ask you this: if you went home tomorrow and you bowed to your husband, uh, would you start worshiping him?
	Would that would that be like an immediate thing?
	No, but I wouldn't, it's not something I would make as a part of my everyday life where he comes home and I bow to him the second he walks in through the house every single day.
	Yeah, but but why would that I still don't understand why that would necessitate you would need to worship him.
	I just don't get that if I was doing that every day.
	I think that would kind of like trigger like almost like Pavlov's dog's effect in my mind of here comes home this person.
	I'm waiting for him to come home and I'm serving him and I'm worshiping him like every single day.
	You mean, well, wait, wait, serving him, you adore him, you love him.
	How is that worshiping him, though?
	I don't, I don't get that.
	I'm talking about specifically bowing.
	That's what I'm specifically.
	Yeah, I'm talking specifically about bowing too.
	Andrew, do you have a lint roller, please?
	Yeah, I do.
	Andrew.
	I just wanted to trigger that OCD a little bit.
	Wait, are we going to do a Rachel cameo, by the way?
	I think.
	Yeah, we'll bring Rachel down.
	Okay.
	Does she have that pink?
	The pink, neon pink sweatshirt.
	Yeah, I'll get her.
	We'll switch chairs here for a few.
	Yeah.
	Now, okay.
	Hmm.
	How did we get there?
	We were talking about the bow.
	Yeah, we were talking about bowing into the routine.
	You wouldn't do the bow.
	Who would do the bow?
	Show of hands, you do the bow.
	Anissa, bow?
	You do the bow?
	Maybe the bow?
	Would you not hit the bow?
	Sorry, bowing to my husband?
	Yeah, like, did you see the video?
	Were you here, sir?
	Yeah.
	Would you do a bow?
	As a joke, yeah.
	What if he was like, I want you, like, if you guys were living together, dating for a year or whatever.
	And he comes, you know, he gets home later.
	He's like, I want you to hit a bow, like, as every time I come home.
	And then give me a hug after.
	You wouldn't do it?
	Okay.
	You do the hug, though.
	A hug?
	Yeah, I'm assuming you would.
	Nicolette, would you do the bow?
	I have done it.
	You tried it out and it worked.
	You do the bow, yes?
	I literally don't care.
	Yeah, would you do that?
	Don't care, you do it.
	Would you hit the bow?
	Nope.
	Yeah.
	Angelic says yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	The wife is snoozing away, so it's not going to happen tonight, Brian.
	Ah, shoot.
	Okay, we should have done it earlier.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Well, if she wakes up, we can still do it, but otherwise, yeah, we'll do it another time.
	Okay, maybe going beyond the bow.
	Any objections to the laundry thing on the first date?
	Like, would you guys do laundry for a guy?
	No.
	Like, you'd fold his socks and stuff?
	No.
	You wouldn't fold his socks?
	No.
	Shorts?
	I wouldn't fold anything.
	Shirts?
	Underwear?
	I wouldn't fold anything.
	Nothing.
	I want to be the one being folded over.
	That was a great one.
	Good one.
	Okay.
	I think, what about, you know, look, you know, that's fine.
	I respect that.
	I respect that.
	I do want to advise the men out there.
	If she won't, just find someone who will.
	If she wanted to, she would.
	That's called a maid.
	But my question is, why don't you?
	You know what?
	All these women who want a man to protect them, why don't you just buy a bodyguard?
	Yeah, that's called a security guard.
	Yeah, just buy a security guard.
	Why don't you date a limp wrist man?
	Like me.
	Why is it a maid?
	If he's paying for the house, you know what?
	He's saying on the first date.
	Executive protection.
	He would do it on the first date.
	Fuck yeah.
	I'll bow for him.
	I'll courtsy for him.
	On the first date.
	If she doesn't know how to churn butter, she ain't the one.
	I churned brother the other day.
	I churned brothers.
	You churned a brother?
	No, that could have been worse.
	I might have been crazy about that.
	I want a woman who can make me a quilt.
	What would you do with twins, by the way?
	I'm always.
	If you have that too, what would you do?
	Would you do them at the same time?
	Would you.
	Yes.
	If she isn't Amish, she isn't the one.
	So if there's any twins who are hot watching, hit me up in the DMs.
	Yeah, I asked her, what would you do with twins?
	And she was like, oh, I was wondering that the whole podcast would do better to put twins.
	If you knit me a cardigan, she ain't the one.
	You should put it on a t-shirt and salad.
	Have any of you ever knit a cardigan?
	Nope.
	Didn't think so.
	Didn't think so.
	I can crochet, but not knit.
	I thought that was the same thing.
	Let's see.
	I've got a sewing machine.
	I just don't know how to use it.
	Really?
	You don't know how to use the sewing machine?
	That's what I deserve.
	No, but I bought it so I could learn.
	Woman who can knit.
	Do you know how to sew by hand?
	I can sew by hand.
	She sews by hand.
	It comes with a wedding ring.
	Comes with a wing.
	Oh, we have a chat here from Durin.
	Doesn't seem to come with a wedding ring.
	I'm going to have Anissa, if you can read this.
	I used to play video games.
	I still do, but I used to too.
	Good show tonight, Nicolette.
	Awful, just awful.
	Keep up the good work, Brian and Andrew.
	I used to do drugs.
	I still do what I used to do.
	Well, that was Mitch Hedberg.
	It was, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	By the way, gonna give Nicolette a bunch of shit, but she did engage with most of the arguments, and for that, I thank you.
	Thank you.
	Love you.
	Yeah, shout out to Nicolette.
	You're a legend, Nicolette.
	Thank you.
	You're a legend.
	Hey, Andrew, I do have a question.
	So, I know that you said that you aren't religious in the beginning.
	So, no, no, no, the opposite.
	I said I'm very religious.
	Oh, okay.
	I was like, how do you know so much about theology?
	Yeah, no, I'm an Eastern Orthodox Christian.
	It's a centerpiece of my life, in fact, I would say.
	Is that almost like the same thing as I'm Catholic?
	Is that almost from my view?
	This is heavily contested, but from my view, Catholics were schismatic from the Orthodox Church.
	But you would see it as being somewhat similar from your view.
	Got it.
	Let's see what else.
	We went around the table on Icks.
	Did you have any other Icks or the effort thing, if I recall?
	That's it.
	Just the lack of effort.
	I think women should put in like 95% of the effort, and the man should put in 5%.
	You don't believe that.
	What do you mean?
	You don't believe that.
	Oh, no.
	I mean, if it was up to me, it would be like 100% effort from the woman.
	But I'm being nice.
	I'm saying 95%.
	Okay.
	Actually, now I believe you.
	Okay, good.
	I'm glad we're on the same page there.
	And let's, you know what we're going to do?
	We're going to get into some.
	Okay, here we go.
	Would you rather come across a random man or a random bear in the woods?
	Starting with you.
	Oh, my God.
	Have you heard of this one before?
	I have.
	Maybe in the context of the woods.
	A bear.
	Oh, no.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	A man.
	Bear.
	Definitely a man.
	Bear.
	Man.
	Man.
	A man.
	A man.
	Man.
	Wait, so bear, bear, bear?
	Three bears?
	Three bears.
	Why do you guys pick bear?
	Why do you guys pick bear?
	At least I know like the potential actions of a bear.
	And I don't, yeah, I like how they would react.
	And I don't know really if it's like 50-50 for a man.
	So I'd rather take my chances with the bear.
	You think it's 50-50?
	For the bear to sleep.
	Like, they can either be good or bad, is what I'm saying.
	The man, like I said, 50-50% of them, you think would be bad?
	Like, I don't know.
	But maybe if he's in the woods, it's because he's hunting.
	And so he can protect him.
	Potentially.
	He's not hunting you.
	But I don't know.
	Men don't bear it.
	Yeah, men don't go to the forest or wherever you said to find women to hunt.
	They go hiding.
	I disagree.
	Some do to hunt women.
	I'm going to go to the forest.
	And hunt a girl.
	Yes, that's the perfect thing.
	No, I mean by this logic, men shouldn't go to hospitals because that's where women go.
	Yes.
	I would think like a nightclub or whatever.
	Because it's like quiet out there.
	Like there's no call.
	So you walk around the forest alone.
	Yeah, I know, I know.
	But just so you know, by the same logic, women do hunt men, and there are many, many women who are serial killers, maybe more than even men.
	They just do it in vulnerable positions, usually as nurses.
	Do not go there.
	Usually as nurses, usually as caretakers, usually in those positions.
	Okay, your statistics are wrong.
	Oh my God, Nicola.
	I am sorry, I didn't hear what you said.
	I don't speak Holy Needs.
	But anyway, back to where I was before I was so rudely interrupted.
	Yeah, so by the same logic, men shouldn't go to hospitals and things like this because that's where the predators are, right?
	That's for you, I think.
	Can you repeat the question?
	Yeah, so women also are serial killers and hunt down men and do horrible things to them.
	They just do it when men are in vulnerable positions.
	Usually as nurses, women do this.
	In caretaker positions, they do this.
	They usually do it from those positions.
	So if your logic is sound that men are going out to forests, because some men are going out to forests to hunt down women, then by this logic, men should basically demand to never have a female nurse, right?
	Because that's where women go to hunt down men, right?
	If that's what they feel comfortable with, like if they feel comfortable only with the male nurse, then the majority of nurses are all women.
	That's super dangerous.
	Almost all of them.
	Yeah, that's super dangerous for a man to be like, I want a male nurse.
	What if, like, if that's your preference?
	Like, I don't have anything wrong with you.
	Before we have too much of a back and forth, there were two others who picked bear.
	Just curious to hear your guys' input on why do you pick bear over man?
	We'll start with you.
	Why not?
	I feel like you know what to expect with the bear.
	Like the worst they can do is kill you.
	But for a man, it could be worse.
	And I feel like with the bear, it's like I think it's like for a grizzly, you just like play dead.
	And if it's like a black bear, you like make loud noises to scare them off.
	So I feel like if it comes to like if it comes to a point where they like try to attack you, you kind of know what to do.
	If that makes sense.
	What would you do if they attack you?
	Fight them off?
	I'll die.
	I don't care.
	Oh, you know, I have one follow-up question, but I want to just get your why do you pick bear?
	I honestly kind of want to change because I don't want to die.
	You don't want to die?
	I would rather encounter a man and whatever that leads to thank you.
	The man could die.
	Kill you.
	The underscore random underscore bear donated $100.
	Would you like to go on a date?
	A picnic clunch.
	I'm 7-8 inches tall with a bite force of 1,200 pounds.
	Do you bring the meat?
	I will bring the wine.
	50-50.
	Speaking of which, TTS is now 100.
	We've lowered the TTS to 100 if you guys want to get it in.
	Thank you, Random Bear.
	We have a meme about this.
	Brown bear, nine feet tall, 1,300 pounds, 4 inches by force, pelt, speed.
	Kyle, 510, ooh, 174 pounds.
	Project engineer, excuse me, said hi to you at the gym.
	Poor cow.
	Poor cow.
	I definitely changed my answer now.
	Definitely bear.
	Wow, you've switched.
	I'm just kidding.
	did have a kind of different question.
	So here's the, and Andrew, tell me what you think about this one, because I think it's actually quite good.
	So So you're spawned into a forest with a bear.
	Now you can choose to either spawn alone or with a man who has a firearm.
	Do you choose to spawn into the forest alone with the bear or into the forest with the bear with a man who has a firearm that could kill the bear?
	He's a total stranger?
	Total stranger.
	So he might kill the bear, but then afterwards he might kill, you know.
	I will choose him.
	Well, let's start here.
	Yeah, I would choose the man because, I don't know, I have a better chance of surviving since he has a firearm.
	Okay.
	Myself.
	Alone.
	Still spawn alone in the forest.
	Okay.
	The man with the firearm.
	Okay.
	I'd still be myself and the bear.
	Still, okay, alone with the bear?
	The guy with the gun.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'm from Texas.
	Everyone around me has firearms.
	I'd go alone.
	Wait, was your answer bear last time or man?
	It was man.
	Wait, but now you pick the bear?
	Wait, I'm con.
	I go alone with the bear?
	Yeah.
	No, no, no.
	So there's a conflation which happened.
	So an earlier answer was I would go alone.
	And so she thought that that was an option which you had offered even though it wasn't to this to the second question that I asked?
	Yeah, so the gal on this side who's wearing the black shirt had said she would come in alone.
	And you just kind of granted okay.
	You thought that that meant alone with the bear, but she just meant I would spawn in alone.
	And so this gal thinks that that was an actual option even though it wasn't.
	Wait, who answered that way?
	So from my perspective, on my right, third down.
	Oh, you said alone?
	But alone with the bear?
	Yeah.
	Okay, I think she knows it's alone with the bear.
	Yeah, I know, but that's where the confusion is, is because she just said alone.
	And so then when it got to the other side of the table, she thought alone was an answer.
	That's why you keep saying alone with the bear and she keeps saying alone is because you're talking past each other.
	I'd spawn in alone and encounter the bear by myself.
	But previously you said you'd encounter the man.
	Hopefully he doesn't have a weapon on him.
	If I'm encountering a man, I'm hoping that he does not have a weapon on him when I see him.
	Now if he does, then I have to take my chances, which is why I started with the man.
	But if he automatically has a firearm, I'd rather go alone.
	But the bear is still there, even with the man with the gun, right?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So it switched.
	Previously, she said she'd prefer the man over the bear, but now she prefers the bear over the bear and the armed man.
	Because the man is armed.
	And the men can shoot the bear.
	That's nice.
	He can also shoot me.
	But he will not die before.
	Let's hope.
	Okay.
	Angelic, your answer to this?
	The man.
	Okay.
	The man.
	All right.
	Andrew, do you think that's a good one to add to this?
	I think it's interesting.
	Yeah, I'd say, well, it's a good caveat.
	It's just asking, he's in the ultimate position of authority.
	So now he has the firearm.
	So before, maybe the power dynamic was even that, okay, he's just potentially physically stronger than you, but now he's physically stronger than you and he's armed.
	Would that still be a more optimal situation to spawn into a forest with no gear except this guy and his gun or you with a dangerous animal?
	So I would think that the answer would be obvious.
	I would definitely, if I were a woman, take my chances with whatever random man with a gun.
	I think that your chance would be significantly better getting out of that forest than if you spawned in with a bear.
	Going back to the original question, I think you said it's 50-50.
	So let me maybe ask the question a bit more pointed.
	What percentage of men do you think would choose to victimize you in some way in this situation?
	Oh, I'm not too sure about that.
	I meant it more in the way of I can encounter them and they can either kill me or not.
	That's more the way it is.
	Well, somebody could or could not do something, but the percentage could be skewed.
	There's a 1% chance they could and a 99% chance they couldn't.
	So could or could not doesn't necessarily imply 50-50, right?
	Okay, yeah.
	I take that back then.
	Like so 50-50 would imply there's a 50% chance they could.
	Oh, yeah, I didn't mean it.
	So, what percentage do you think it is, though?
	Oh, I don't know.
	You don't know?
	I don't know.
	All right.
	If you had to give a guess, you have 10 random men on a wall.
	How many of them would you say if they could would do bad things to you if nobody nobody knew that they were going to?
	Maybe like three out of 30.
	So that would be 30%.
	Okay.
	Sure.
	Like, I don't know for sure, but I would say.
	No, I understand.
	I understand.
	Just kind of going off your intuition and your guess.
	Yeah.
	30%.
	And then what about for you?
	I think it's less than that.
	So, yeah, that's why I changed my answer.
	Okay.
	If you had 10 men, 10 random men on a wall, how many would you say that they could do bad things to you and nobody would ever know would?
	Out of 100, I would say like five.
	No, 10, 10.
	Three out of 10, maybe one.
	One.
	So 10%.
	I would say two.
	Okay.
	Two.
	20%.
	10, 20, 30%.
	Interesting.
	Closer to 1%.
	Interesting.
	Or half a percent or 0.3%.
	It's very, very, very low.
	The amount of men who commit violent actions against women or against other men.
	Like, just so you know.
	It's actually a very low percentage.
	But I would like to ask this kind of follow-up question.
	I'm just curious about this.
	Because Brian introduced this different dynamic.
	So let's say the situation was this.
	You respond into a, you could pick the man with a gun, and you knew that his motivation was that he would not hurt you.
	He's not going to hurt you no matter what.
	Okay?
	He's not going to actually hurt you.
	But the caveat is you don't know if he's going to share resources or demand that you give him sexual favors in exchange for him actually doing anything for you while you're in the forest.
	Would you still opt for the man then?
	Like if he's just coexisting with you?
	Well, he exists there, right?
	He's got the gun.
	He's definitely going to be the one who's getting the food.
	But you're not sure if he's going to share the food with you, and he can make kind of demands that are mutual, right?
	He can say, okay, I'll share my food with you, but it's going to require some sex or something like that, right?
	Would you then opt to spawn in with him?
	Yes, and then I would fuck him.
	Nobody is surprised.
	I would too, actually, but I would not like fuck him after.
	I would not choose a bear.
	He would die.
	If I just have to suck a stick to survive, yeah, fine.
	If you ask me, Daddy, fine.
	Well, but you don't have to.
	That's the caveat, right?
	You don't actually have to.
	He's just gone, right?
	I'm not going to share shit with you if you don't.
	Oh, then I would just walk on, but I would never choose the bear.
	No.
	Really?
	But then you'd starve.
	Darling, it's good for my diet.
	What are you talking about?
	No.
	That's an interesting one for sure.
	Definitely an interesting one.
	What was the other thing we had to get to?
	It was dating apps.
	Thank you, Nick.
	Thank you for the reminder.
	Hashtag Big Labymatter.
	I don't know why I just said that right now, but.
	Yeah, ready.
	They're clean, right?
	Yeah.
	She's got night mode on her Tinder.
	Okay.
	This is or dark mode or whatever.
	Timara.
	This is her Tinder, I guess.
	Next.
	Next.
	Scorpio.
	Wait, go back really quick.
	Video chatter, trade school, presence, dog.
	Okay, interest, I guess.
	Next.
	Okay.
	That's it?
	There's no prompts or anything?
	Oh, okay.
	Well, that's a rather dull affair.
	No.
	Just because there's no prompts.
	Next one, I guess.
	This is Noelle.
	This is her Tinder.
	I can be funny sometimes.
	Okay.
	5'7, aspiring neurologist.
	If I had 20 minutes left to live, I would go to Michaels and buy yarn.
	I love Michaels.
	And I love looking at yarn, so if I had 20 minutes.
	Wait, is that one only like the final 20 minutes?
	You went and call your parents, your mom.
	They'll understand.
	All right, get this girl some yarn.
	Next.
	Like if a guy just like showed up on the first date and he just like hears some yarn, would it be on?
	It's on my dog's cold beach.
	It would be like flowers showing up with flowers.
	Showing up with yarn, I'd accept.
	What?
	What?
	Oh, wait, showing up with yarn would be.
	Okay, go back.
	Looking for short-term, open to long.
	Drinking socially on the weekends, love style, touch, communication style, bad texture.
	Wow, they really did a change-up with Tinder here.
	Works out sometimes.
	Is there more?
	It's just this.
	It's another boogie with the hoodie.
	Okay.
	Yarn?
	Really?
	Okay, I don't know.
	What's wrong with the yarn?
	There's nothing wrong with yarn.
	It just seems a bit, you know.
	Why is the yarn hurting your feelings?
	It does hurt my feelings, actually.
	Why?
	You said you wanted a girl to make you a cardigan.
	She's that girl.
	Fair point.
	Fair point, Nicolette.
	So you want the girl with the yarn to crochet or knit, but you don't want her to have the yarn.
	Can't you make it out of other materials?
	Can you not?
	You would knit with yarn.
	Can you do it with wool?
	There's a wool cart.
	Wool yarn.
	Would it still be yarn?
	It would still be yarn.
	You need yarn.
	I don't know enough about it.
	I still don't know enough about yarn to.
	Okay.
	I got one more thing for you.
	Do we have another React?
	What is it?
	What we have?
	I don't have this one yet.
	Oh.
	I feel like I think I have to pull this one up in context of convo with that has to do with something else.
	Let me check if we have any chats.
	Any dating topics anybody wants to touch on?
	Dating topics?
	Red and green flags.
	Before we get to that, we have the reason there.
	Oh, wait, did this article?
	The underscore random bear donated $100.
	Did it come through?
	Would you like to go on the okay?
	Actually, we had notes from you.
	Another thing from you, Jamie.
	You said, you said, I do disagree how some topics are handled.
	Seems a little harsh sometimes, but most modern women need a reality check, so it's warranted.
	That's what you said.
	Yes.
	I assume you're talking about Andrew here and definitely not me.
	Um, let me think.
	You're way far off.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Sorry.
	Um, yeah, but Andrew's real.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Like, it's harsh, but it comes from a place of like realness.
	All right.
	So, yeah, there you go.
	Endorsement.
	And I feel like it's never like outwardly mean.
	Sometimes it's mean.
	Yes.
	Right, Andrew?
	I usually just match the energy.
	So if somebody's being, if a woman's being like an obnoxious bitch, then I'll be an obnoxious asshole back.
	But if she's just trying to engage and have a conversation, I'm not here to purposely go out of my way to insult or humiliate anybody.
	I just want to engage with the ideas.
	Yes.
	I don't know.
	You were a little direct, and I was like, oh my God, I didn't try to be mean.
	Yeah, I don't feel like I said anything mean to you.
	And I feel like it's also how you receive it.
	Wait, wait, did I say something mean to you?
	Well, you're like, you were.
	Recon donated $200.
	Why is it most women are incapable of logical thinking?
	Quit thinking all men want to hurt you.
	We have better things to do.
	Hashtag big labia matter.
	Andrew, love your debates.
	Good labyrinth.
	Hey, thank you, Recon, for the great support to whatever.
	Thank you.
	Very kind.
	They've had me on many, many times, and Brian's had me on many, many times.
	Make sure you support the channel.
	But yeah, back to this.
	I don't think I actually said anything mean to you at all.
	No, no, you didn't.
	I'm just hormonal.
	So when you were like, stop talking, I was like, I'm sucked.
	Oh, no, no.
	Well, okay, so I will concede that that can sound somewhat harsh, but try to remember that there's one of me.
	And sometimes when I'm engaging with a single person, four other people will cut in.
	And so I have to control the room a bit so that I can finish the portion of the conversation.
	But I always want to move to what the next person's criticism is.
	I just want to finish the engagement that I'm involved in, if that makes sense.
	No, totally makes sense.
	Yeah.
	So I don't even mean that to be harsh.
	I'm just trying to control the room.
	There's what?
	One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
	What is there?
	Ten women there right now, right?
	So you can imagine if you had four people kind of shotgunning different points at you, if you were in the middle of, it's really easy to obfuscate or move off of the topic.
	And so I can't get to the heart of what it is we're discussing.
	And also, that's often done as a tactic by women who come in in friends groups.
	They try to obfuscate so that you'll move off of the topic.
	And so I just try to keep it on the topic until we finish the engagement, and then I can move to where the next criticism is.
	I totally get it.
	I also just had a baby, so everything sounds like I'm being attacked.
	That's fair.
	That's fair.
	What was your after baby food of choice, the first thing you ate?
	I know that that's the most important meal of a woman's life.
	What is it?
	What was yours?
	Chipotle.
	Chipotle?
	Yeah.
	My wife always wanted pizza.
	It was always pizza.
	With pineapples because she's an evil trader.
	She's an evil traitor.
	But other than that, you know, she's a pretty good wife.
	Can I do a little shameless plug?
	I just started eating a whole bunch of red meat and veggies and I'm down 35 pounds.
	So, you know, so I ate that Chipotle and then I went to work, as in went to work with my health.
	Nice.
	We have a question here.
	Would you rather be the king?
	Killer of cereal donated $100.
	There needs to be more people with the mindset of Andrew.
	Direct, no BS truth.
	Don't sugarcoat anything.
	Call out lies, hypocrisy, and corrupt mind sects, because that's what is so damaging to society.
	Hmm.
	Yo, kill of cereal, really appreciate the TTS, man.
	Thank you so much.
	Appreciate it.
	He's been on fire with the donos lately.
	Yeah, kill of cereal.
	By the way, Killa, I've been googling cereal gifts to like for your custom TTS thing.
	I haven't found a good one yet, but we'll get you a custom thing set up here soon.
	The question is, would you rather be the king's mistress or a peasant's wife?
	A peasant's wife.
	Peasant's wife, okay?
	Peasant's wife.
	Peasant's wife?
	Realistically, a king's mistress.
	Okay.
	Peasant's wife.
	King's mistress.
	Peasant's wife.
	Peasant's wife.
	Hmm.
	Okay.
	Were you the only one who said king's mistress?
	No, I think another person did.
	Oh, no, sorry.
	That was Nicolette.
	Surprise.
	Very surprising.
	Very surprising.
	Oh, this is an interesting question.
	Would you personally be personally willing to give up the occasional cat calling or harassment if it meant that you never got any attention from men or special treatment whatsoever ever again?
	Starting with you.
	no no no does that mean like you'll never be in a relationship even after that I was wondering.
	Well, I guess it's you would.
	Well, you could potentially be in a relationship, but whatever special privileges that men give you, and whatever things that are done in additional to you, which is part of female privilege, you would no longer ever get again.
	The way I kind of understand it is the guy's not going to make the first move.
	He's not going to go for the first kiss.
	He's not going to ask you out.
	He's not going to slide into your DMs.
	He won't message you first.
	Like, you'll have to take all the initiative that men typically take on.
	Okay, then no, I wouldn't give it up.
	Okay.
	No, I personally don't mind cat calling, like, unless it's not violent or they get close to me.
	But if they're like across the street, I don't really care.
	What she said.
	No.
	I wouldn't give it up either.
	No.
	Wait, I'm sorry.
	Does that mean like when you're actually in a relationship, though, or just the beginning?
	Because to be honest, I make the first move, so like I don't really care about that.
	But like when I'm actually in a relationship, then I would still want the like effort and stuff.
	Or is it only like just outside?
	We'll just grant it.
	We'll just grant that inside of the relationship, it no longer operates this way, but you have to take care of everything as the pretense.
	So you have to take care of all the date costs.
	You have to take care of all the open doors.
	All chivalry is dead, and female privilege is dead.
	Women are treated essentially just as interchangeable widgets to men.
	I mean, I guess I'll still take the cat calling.
	I don't really go out anyways.
	So that was fine.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I know.
	I would, yeah.
	Okay.
	Interesting, interesting.
	Let's see.
	Nick, can you find, you know, Zach, his Instagram?
	You know the guy, right?
	Yeah.
	I'm friends with this guy.
	His name's Zach.
	And I know some of you are in relationships, but let's just, you know, if you're single, I am trying to be a little matchmaker here, so I'm going to see if you guys would date him.
	So this is Zach.
	And great guy, wonderful guy, all-around great guy.
	Nice guy.
	Sweet guy.
	Well, voice crack.
	So we'll scroll down.
	We'll check out some of his photos.
	That's how he would look if he was bald.
	He plays some video games and he can also protect you with an axe So going around the table, would you date him?
	Can I decline to answer?
	So no I Thought I would until I saw the picture with a wig because I'm not into feminine men with a with a lot of picture with a wig?
	Yeah, he was not very into feminine men.
	Excuse me.
	But otherwise, if he didn't do like the feminine stuff, I would have.
	Okay, what about you?
	I wouldn't.
	Wouldn't date him?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	No.
	No.
	So one of the last guys I banged actually looks like him, so yes, I would.
	Okay.
	I'm married.
	No.
	I know him, but no.
	No.
	You know him.
	All right.
	Does it change?
	Does it change anything?
	Nick, scroll all the way up to the top.
	He is the owner of OTK Network, Starforge PCs.
	He's one of the most popular Twitch streamers on Twitch.
	He's a millionaire many times over.
	Very successful.
	Ambitious?
	Question mark?
	He's very successful.
	I don't know if he's ambitious.
	Change anything?
	You said you like ambitious guys.
	Millionaire.
	Doesn't change anything.
	Doesn't change anything?
	I think I've watched him on YouTube, but I'm not sure.
	One of his favorite things.
	I feel like you guys could almost be related.
	Yeah.
	Why?
	Because they look alike or?
	I don't know.
	I just, you know, get that.
	Get that.
	Get that vibe?
	Get the vibe.
	I don't know.
	Fair amounts or something.
	I don't know.
	Nobody?
	Doesn't change it for anybody else.
	No, for me as well.
	It doesn't change anything for me as well.
	All right.
	Let's see what else we had.
	Oh, would you date a guy who is not a feminist?
	And maybe also just add, if you're a feminist, I guess.
	I don't know.
	What is that defined as?
	Well, there's different definitions.
	I don't know.
	Is it like third wave feminism?
	I suppose, yeah.
	So wait, no, you would date a guy who is not a feminist, or no, you would not date a guy who is not a feminist.
	If he's not a feminist, like, does he even care about you?
	And I'm not talking about like an extreme feminist, just like, yeah.
	It's like a little bit there.
	I would say no, I would not.
	And do you consider yourself a feminist?
	Yeah, but not like an extreme one.
	I don't go out shouting I'm a feminist.
	You just whisper it?
	Depending it on TikTok.
	What about you?
	I would date him, yeah.
	Okay, what about you?
	Does a guy have to be a feminist for you to date him?
	Never really thought about that before, but I don't think he needs to label himself like I'm a feminist, but he believes the things that feminists believe.
	I wouldn't date him.
	If he was not if he wasn't a feminist, I guess.
	You would not date him.
	Okay, and are you a feminist?
	Sure.
	Okay.
	So, would I date a feminist man?
	Sorry, I'm getting just tired.
	Yeah.
	Sure, I would.
	But a question was if he's not feminist.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, sorry.
	He's not a feminist.
	If he's not feminist.
	Would you date him if he's not a feminist?
	Yes, because I believe two people can date and have differing political ideologies.
	Are you feminist?
	Not a third-wave feminist, but I believe women should have the same rights in the workplace.
	Okay.
	But sure.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I would not date him.
	If he's not okay.
	I'm not a feminist, and I wouldn't date a feminist because they're annoying.
	Nicola, that's funny.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Yeah, my husband's not a feminist, and I'm not either.
	What's the definition that we're going based on?
	Well, there's a lot of different definitions, but a movement, and I think Andrew typically says movement towards egalitarianism or equality with a rejection of patriarchy.
	Okay.
	He would have to be a feminist in order for me to date him.
	Sorry if I worded that differently than the original question.
	Well, if he was not, well, I guess you're right.
	Killer of cereal donated $100.
	Get some, get some.
	Stay hydrated, stay alive.
	Keep life in perspective.
	Live within your means.
	Never give up on yourself.
	Never surrender to ill will.
	Last cue, if Trump and Carmela had baby, what name?
	Tamala.
	Tamala.
	Tamale.
	Tramala.
	Tamala.
	Tramali.
	Tramalama.
	No, no, no, no.
	It would be barren with two R's.
	Cricket.
	I don't get it.
	It's a very clever joke.
	I'm not that smart to get that.
	Angelic, your answer to the question.
	I would date someone who is not a feminist.
	I'm not a feminist, and I would not date a feminist.
	Okay.
	Some interesting, different answers here.
	Why would you not date a guy who is not a feminist?
	I mean, I think the question wasn't for you.
	I'm just going off feminist as like very basic, cares about women's equality generally.
	So if he doesn't care about that, I just feel like.
	Well, what if he believes in equality, but he's not a feminist?
	It depends what we're defining as feminist.
	There's different definitions.
	I agree with her.
	Well, okay, I'll go back to the initial question.
	Why would you not date somebody, a guy who's not a feminist?
	I think she answered that.
	No?
	Well, I mean, I'm sure you have your own opinions on this.
	Okay, so like he doesn't have to label himself as a feminist, like I don't do that.
	But if he thinks that women like deserve unequal pay or some or women belong in the home, like I would not date him.
	Okay.
	So if he was like, if you were dating a guy who's a multi-millionaire and he said, don't worry about a job.
	I'm going to take care of you the rest of your life.
	Stay home.
	Take care of the family.
	Take care of the kids.
	Do you want kids one day?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You don't have to work.
	Forget all that.
	I'll take care of everything.
	That's more like a privilege.
	But like out of necessity, like it should be, like, women should have the ability to do that.
	Sure.
	But would you object to a man coming along and saying, I want to provide for everything.
	Don't worry about work.
	No, I don't think that means he's not a feminist.
	I think that just means he wants to provide for you.
	I think that's different.
	Well, I suppose a male feminist could want to be a provider, although I wonder why he would want to.
	But okay, so you think they should be in favor of equal pay?
	And what was the other reason that you gave?
	Oh, he shouldn't expect that all women stay at home.
	Ever.
	Or like homemakers.
	What if he expects his.
	That's fine, so that's like for his own.
	Okay.
	I'm talking about like for everyone.
	Hmm.
	Okay.
	Your thoughts on this?
	Yeah, I think just like in gender roles, like I don't want him to expect me to do anything as a woman.
	Like I don't want him to have any certain expectation of he thinks I should do this or that I should do that.
	Wait, didn't you?
	I'm trying to call back to the beginning of the conversation.
	Didn't you say men should pay for first aids?
	I said they should, yeah.
	But if they don't, I'm not saying they have to.
	Like I would go 50-50, but I would prefer if they did.
	So they should.
	They should, yeah.
	But it's not like a deal.
	Like I'm not like, oh, like, I'm not going to go on the state.
	But isn't that based on a perception of a gender role?
	Yeah, but it's not like I'm like, he, like, he has to.
	I just prefer that.
	Like, if he prefers.
	He has to, if he's going to date you, right?
	No, he doesn't have to.
	I just would prefer to.
	Okay, so you would go on dates with men who you paid for?
	I wouldn't pay for them.
	No, I would go 50-50.
	Yeah, no, you wouldn't pay for him.
	So then you have a perceived gender role, a stereotypical gender role that you want him to do, right?
	Sure.
	So if you have a stereotypical gender role you want him to do, why are you adverse to him having a stereotypical gender role for you to do?
	Because if he prefers me to do something, it's not like he's like, you have to do this, is more the way I'm looking at it.
	But if you say you wouldn't date a man if he didn't pay for your date, then you're saying he has to pay for the date to date you.
	No, he doesn't have to.
	Like, I would still go on the date if he didn't pay for it.
	You just got done saying that you would not pay for a date with a man ever.
	What are you talking about?
	Yeah, like I wouldn't be for 100% of the date.
	Yeah.
	She would do 50-50.
	Yeah.
	I don't think so.
	So if you consider that a gender expectation.
	But hang on, hang on.
	That's still setting an expectation, though, that if you're not splitting the date 50-50, that he's going to pay for the date.
	And you're never going to pay for him on the date, which is still a stereotypical gender role.
	They're just saying, well, if we go on a date, we can split it.
	Or you can pay, but I'm never going to fucking pay.
	I will pay.
	I will pay.
	How's it leaning into the payment?
	In a relationship, like I will eventually.
	Like, I will pay first date.
	Yeah.
	First date's different.
	Like, in the relationship, I will pay.
	Like, 100%.
	Let's talk about first date, though.
	Yeah, first date, I agree.
	I have expectation at least 50-50.
	Yeah, so you have some gender roles there, though.
	Would you be more or less likely to date a guy who's willing to pay for the whole date?
	Yeah, I'm more likely to date.
	Well, even if it's not an outright, so even if you're open to the idea of going 50-50, even saying, I prefer, or I prefer, or this is kind of better, that in and of itself is a gendered expectation.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So are you holding one standard for you and then one standard for them?
	I think that's a very specific scenario, though.
	Like, I think there's a lot more to being.
	Have you ever asked a guy out?
	No.
	Okay.
	Well, there's another one.
	You expect men to take the initiative.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's a very gendered expectation.
	Sorry to buddy, but I think gender expectations, like you can have that personally for your own relationship, but I don't think it should be like your view pushed onto everyone else.
	Like not everyone.
	Yeah, but that really doesn't make much sense because the idea was inside of a relationship, I don't want a man to have any gendered expectations of me at all.
	It's like, okay, if that's the case, then why would you have gendered expectations of him?
	That's bizarre to me.
	In a relationship.
	So if you just say, if you just kind of say that's a first date.
	Go ahead.
	I'm sorry.
	Oh, yeah.
	Interrelation.
	I think it's different than a first date.
	Like, I don't think I have those gender rules, gender views in a relationship in comparison to a first date.
	Well, what do you mean?
	Like, I don't expect him to pay for everything in the relationship.
	Do you expect him to pay for most things?
	No, I think it's situational.
	I think it depends on who makes more money and things like that.
	How many kids do you want?
	Just curious.
	Do you want kids?
	I don't know yet, but if I did, maybe two.
	Are you going to take maternity leave?
	Probably.
	How far into the pregnancy do you want to continue working?
	Like up until you would other, like eight months, nine months?
	Up until I can't, probably.
	Okay.
	And then how much time do you want to take off after you have a kid?
	One month, two months, three months?
	Maybe like the first two months.
	And then straight back to work and then into the daycare they go.
	I mean, I'm not there yet, but maybe, yeah.
	Okay.
	I'm there right now, and that is not what you would want.
	I don't think you get two months, right?
	You get six weeks or 12 weeks.
	Like, preferably, I would want them to be watched by family, but I don't know where I'll be when I have kids.
	Yeah, but it is very difficult to leave a two-month-old.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I had something else, but it slipped to my mind.
	What about you?
	Why would you not date a guy who is not a feminist?
	It just doesn't align with my morals.
	Morals, okay.
	And I wouldn't exactly like date a guy who is a feminist.
	There's other qualities that I look for.
	So, yeah.
	But if he wasn't a feminist, or if he was not a feminist, that would be a deal breaker.
	Depends how strong of an anti-feminist he is.
	Very strong.
	Yeah, very strong.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'm not really sure.
	I'm not really sure how you can even have levels to it, right?
	You're either pro-feminist or pro-feminism, or you're not pro-feminism, right?
	It's like it's easy.
	It's really just either one or the other.
	I don't know how you could just be kind of feminist.
	You just are a feminist and believe in the feminist ideals, or you don't.
	I don't really know how you could be in between on that one.
	And I don't think most people know the true definition of feminism.
	People equate it to like women's rights because the word feminine is in there, but that means equal to both sides.
	That means you guys are splitting the first date and everything thereafter.
	Yeah.
	So I don't know if they want to.
	I mean, it's not clear to me if feminism is about equality.
	I think it is.
	I look more for equity than equality.
	What do you mean?
	Hang on, hang on, hang on, real quick.
	Before you tell us, are you about to use a standing on the box analogy to look over a fence?
	That's one, yeah.
	Yeah, okay, go ahead.
	Let's listen to that.
	Well, I guess using them like he said, like standing on a box, like if one person is short and one person is tall, you're not just going to give both of them like one box.
	You're probably going to give the shorter person two boxes.
	Okay.
	Wait, so wait, just show of hands really quick.
	Who here is a feminist?
	I think you, you, you.
	Okay, you four.
	And do you believe in equality or equity?
	Equity.
	Equity.
	What's the difference?
	I'm a little confused.
	Like I said, like giving both one box is equality.
	So, question on that.
	I've heard some feminist arguments about, well, equality would be, for example, both men and women being subject to military conscription, the way that men are currently, but women, well, women aren't, but it would be equality for both men and women to be subject to forced military conscription.
	But I've also heard that it's not equity to have women be to have to register for the draft selective service.
	What's your position on that?
	Do you think women should be subject to the draft forced military conscription the same way men are?
	Or is that it's equity the way it is currently?
	I think it's just fair the way it is.
	It's fair the way it is.
	So just be clear: wait, wait, wait, just one sec.
	So currently, men have to register for selective service.
	If they don't, there's a bunch of negative ramifications.
	They can't vote.
	They miss out on certain federal programs.
	They can't get federal jobs.
	It's technically a felony.
	There's a fine.
	They can face prison time.
	So men can be drafted.
	They have to register for the selective service.
	Women don't have to register for the selective service.
	They can't be drafted.
	Can you explain to me how that's fair?
	Well, I feel like men shouldn't have to be, but if it had to be one, I would say men.
	But I think that sucks that they have to.
	Wait, but so given the reality that men do have to register with the selective service and that governments and nations are, they're not going to relinquish their right to force their citizenry into a military conflict.
	Should women equally have to register too?
	I personally don't want to, but I wouldn't be entirely against it.
	Well, it wouldn't really be, like if there was a draft, it wouldn't really be your choice, right?
	To get drafted?
	Right.
	No.
	If I like sign up for it, no.
	Wait, what do you mean?
	I'm confused what you're asking.
	Well, so you might be against having to make women be subject to military conscription, but if they were subject to military conscription, a woman couldn't say, well, if they do get drafted, well, don't really want to do that.
	The whole point of a draft military conscription is you get forced to do it, right?
	So are you fine with women being forced into military service the same way men are?
	Yeah.
	I guess.
	Can I input?
	Yes.
	I think real quick, before you get into it, I'm sorry, hold the thought for just a second.
	I just wanted to ask a quick follow-up question on the idea of the boxes with the looking over the fence in the boxes.
	So the idea here, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, is that if two people are going to look over a fence, one's five foot four and the other one is five foot nine and the fence is six foot, you're going to give one a different size box than the other so that both can see over the fence, right?
	That's the idea of equity?
	Correct.
	Okay.
	Why is it though that there should be some obligation that both can look over the fence?
	Like why they should look over the fence?
	No, why is there an obligation to make sure both can?
	Just so they can?
	I don't know.
	I didn't think of it that deep.
	No.
	So there should be a reason why we want both people to look over the fence.
	The explanation for what equity is is saying that both people should be able to look over the fence.
	And if they both should be able to, we're giving them different size boxes so that one has a leg up over the other so that both of them can.
	But why in the world do we have the expectation that both should?
	Because it's fair.
	Fair?
	Well, it doesn't seem very fair if you get a box that's bigger than my box because of my immutable characteristics for how I was born, my height in this case.
	It seems like that's unfair to me.
	But you're both looking over the box.
	I mean, over the fence.
	Yeah, so what?
	That's still, you still get a bigger box though.
	That's not fair.
	And you're still looking over the fence.
	Yeah, but I don't have as big a box.
	Why can't I?
	We would still both be looking over the fence if we both had the same size box.
	What you're wanting to say is like equal opportunity.
	For instance, if you needed a four-inch box to look over the fence, and I only needed a two-inch box to look over the fence, wouldn't we both still be looking over the fence if we had a four-inch box?
	I'll just leave it there.
	I want to put in the idea of equal value.
	So I'm not against gender rules whatsoever.
	I actually do follow them to an extent.
	But in the case of like serving in the military, I don't think women should have to be expected to do that.
	Men are physically stronger.
	They can be of value in that way, and women can be of value in another way.
	And I think I'm not like taking equality literally as we have to do equal, we have to do the same things, but we can do different things and they're equal in value.
	But as a woman, you cannot say, I want to go into the military, want to have the same payment, and then when the war breaks out, I want to stand in the kitchen.
	You cannot do that.
	They have to do the same thing as a man does.
	Right.
	Do you think, like, for example, so there's ranks in the military.
	Women are able to volunteer for the military.
	Despite there being different physical requirements, my understanding, I'm not an expert in the military.
	If you're the same rank as a man, I'm pretty sure you get paid the same.
	Now, maybe somebody who's been in the military, maybe if like your job designation, is there a difference in pay?
	Even if you're the same rank, if your job in the military is different.
	So one person, they're infantry, and this other person, they're a mechanic?
	I don't know.
	Anybody in the military can answer this?
	I'm not sure.
	Yes, there's all sorts of different things.
	There's combat pay, there's hazard pay, there's all sorts of things that you get if you're in a combat zone versus if you're stationed stateside and you're doing payroll and things like that.
	There's all sorts of different various pay scales, even within the pay scale.
	So you have two E4s.
	One is in Iraq.
	They're going to get a separation from family pay.
	They're going to get hazard pay.
	They're going to get combat pay.
	They get all sorts of additional incentives and pay for being in combat.
	So it's not just uniform across the board on pay.
	Sure.
	I guess so.
	Back to your point, you said, well, men are stronger.
	So then would you be in favor of barring women from volunteering for the military?
	I think they could have the opportunity.
	I don't think there should be a requirement.
	Right, but you said, well, when it comes to the draft, men are physically stronger, so it should be men.
	Yeah.
	And not women.
	Well, so then should they then be barred from volunteering if they're not as capable?
	Because that's what you're saying, right?
	Women aren't as capable.
	No, that's not what I'm saying.
	Well, if they're just as capable, why can't we draft them for military service?
	Yeah, honestly, they aren't.
	Wait.
	If we're talking about physical strength, like, I think that's.
	Well, let's assume.
	You could draft women.
	I mean, I'm frankly in favor.
	They can go to the front line, but you can draft women and they can perform auxiliary sort of jobs in the military.
	the military needs uh paper pushers they can there's a bunch of stuff that they can do in the military that doesn't necessarily involve correct correct To further this point for you, Brian, it's something around 1 to 2% of actual military personnel, I believe, who actually fight in any sort of combat situation.
	And that's during wartime, even.
	It's a very low percentage of people who actually fight in combat with everybody else being in a position of support.
	Yeah, a lot of support roles.
	Yeah, so that's kind of what I meant by equal value.
	So women can be in a support role, and it's still just as valuable as valuable.
	I don't know if that's as valuable.
	The military itself doesn't think it's just as valuable, which is why they give different ribbons and different medals and different accommodations for people who are in different jobs.
	They don't even consider them to have the same value.
	So for instance, you're not going to get a combat medal if you weren't in combat, for instance.
	That's how that would work.
	So even the military does not scale these equally and consider some to have more merit than others, some to have more dangerous jobs than others.
	Okay, yeah, I see what you're saying.
	I'm talking about value more in terms of gender, generally.
	Yeah, I don't understand, though, how that would equate.
	What would the value be?
	Women can't be deployed to combat.
	They would be a liability, right?
	I don't think there would be a liability.
	You don't think so?
	So let me let's pretend for a second.
	Let us just do a quick mental exercise.
	There's a tactic which was used often in the Vietnam War where what would happen is a Vietnamese sniper would wound, purposely wound an American GI in the middle of a field in order to make the other GIs have to go out to rescue them, presenting additional targets for then that sniper to shoot.
	It was a very effective tactic.
	It's been used in many wartime situations.
	If you were the enemy and women were on the opposite side in a combat role, would you not sexually assault them and make them scream as loud as possible so that then their side would come out to rescue them?
	Andrew, I got to interrupt you really quickly.
	We have Shoe on Head in the chat.
	Shoe on Head, hey, appreciate your comment.
	You still owe me an interview, Shoe on Head.
	You know, I talk to your husband all the time, and he's pretty bass.
	You're not that bass, but he's pretty base.
	And so I know, ipso facto, then this means that you owe me an interview.
	I don't know where I was going with that, but you owe me an interview.
	And we need to get shoe on head on the panel.
	Shoe on head.
	You got to join the panel.
	You got to join the panel.
	Look, I know we don't have, I know we're shooting in 4K.
	I know we don't have your.
	You know what?
	We'll downgrade the cameras to a shitty webcam, okay?
	We'll get you.
	Is she still in the chat, Shu?
	Are you in the chat?
	We'll get you on the show, Shu.
	We'll get you webcam, okay?
	We'll get you webcam 480p.
	Is that good?
	We'll get you a 480p webcam.
	Okay, I know.
	So I like her videos, though.
	I like Shu.
	She's funny.
	But yeah.
	Anyway, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt, but people were saying she was in the chat.
	Yeah, I was just saying, like, if I was in charge of an army and I was facing off against another army that had women in combat, my number one goal would be to capture and then do horrible things to those women and make it as public as possible to demoralize the opposition.
	Don't you think that that would be a highly effective tactic?
	It would.
	Yeah.
	So I'm sorry to interrupt.
	I think we lost one.
	So can we move the chair and get more room?
	Is he going for it?
	Did she?
	I don't see her.
	But like, I'm almost close to tapping out.
	Okay.
	I think what we'll do is we'll put let's put Morgan over there.
	Morgan, can you take the empty seat?
	Shoe, do you have Instagram?
	Shoot us a DM on Instagram.
	We'll get some.
	You said she said something funny, Aina.
	She said she doesn't like Dutch women.
	Sorry.
	She's Dutch.
	Shoe, shoot us a DM on Instagram.
	We'll get something.
	What's your problem with Dutch people?
	Amsterdam's actually one of my favorite cities.
	I've been there three times, really like it.
	I know them very well.
	That's my problem with them.
	Uh-oh.
	A bunch of fucking cheapskates.
	A bunch of cheapskates.
	Dutch are known far and wide for being fucking cheap.
	We do not spend at all.
	That's true.
	No, not at all.
	Yeah, we do not tip as you have here and everything.
	Isn't that just Europeans, though?
	We tip a little bit if we want to be able to do that.
	The Dutch are known even if even the Europeans think that the Dutch are stingy.
	We are.
	We are very known to that.
	Yeah.
	We do not buy mentions and everything.
	No, we do not.
	We are very.
	Yeah, that's true.
	It's because you're taking it.
	They eat semi-sweet chocolate, Brian.
	Like, what do you expect?
	They eat semi-sweet chi.
	It's that whole Puritan culture, Dutch Puritan culture.
	New York used to be New Amsterdam.
	Explains a lot.
	And Harlem, right?
	Also ours as well.
	We were talking about draft.
	Should we pull up Twitch?
	We should pull up Twitch.
	And then we'll get back to the draft thing.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drops a follow, drops a prime sub.
	Guys, it's been seven minutes since we last got a prime.
	I'm pretty sure it's bugged.
	Pretty sure it's bugged.
	Yeah, guys.
	Brian, you never heard the term going Dutch?
	Going.
	That's a good point.
	I didn't know.
	That is a good point, Andrew.
	I have heard the term.
	Have heard the term.
	So we were talking about the draft.
	So you want to go?
	Okay, we can say this is an exception.
	I'm not trying to argue all for one side.
	Look, I think we got to draft women, send them to the.
	In fact, what would be equity is for the next millennia, women fight the wars.
	That's equity, right?
	Would that be equity, Andrew?
	That's equity.
	Yeah, I think so.
	If you consider social justice to be a priority, it is social justice.
	And the right of wrongs which need to be addressed, then I would say that men being the primary arbiters of those who have fought all of the wars of the 20th century would need to be able to stay at home while women went and fought all the wars.
	I think that that's fair.
	That seems very equitable.
	Drizzle, drizzle.
	That way, we had a box that was big enough for us to see over the fence and all that.
	Drizzle, drizzle.
	I would, you know what?
	I would pay good money to see that.
	No, I mean, we would never win any ever again.
	We will gossip.
	We will make YouTube episodes out of it.
	We will trust the other parties' outfits.
	We would be great nurses.
	Yeah, no.
	We will not do good if you have to fight out a woman.
	Come on.
	No, no, I'm saying we would be great nurses.
	Like nurses if in the war, we would be great nurses, right?
	They did that.
	The women were women.
	What would it be like?
	Usually contracted as civilians.
	Yo, Rat, thank you for the gifted 10 subs.
	Do you think women should be drafted?
	I wouldn't prefer that, but yeah.
	So, yes.
	You're in favor of the draft for women.
	I don't know if you answered.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yes, feminists over here in favor of the women being drafted.
	Why are y'all doing that to us?
	I'm with you guys.
	I'm with you guys.
	Draft them up.
	Get them drafted.
	I just gotta ask you a question, though, right?
	Honest question.
	Yeah.
	If you were, let's just say that you were like some foreign country who had a draft implemented and you got drafted.
	And during your briefing, they went, okay, the Americans are sending over their all-female military to deal with us.
	I mean, would you just, would you ever stop laughing?
	I mean, would you just look at your CO and be like, are you fucking serious?
	Like, what?
	If they showed up on the battlefield, do you even think you could fight through the waves of gut-bending laughter?
	Do you even think it's possible?
	Well, we might be able to seduce the other side in the middle of the day.
	You would just strip in the middle of the field, you would just strip.
	That'll be a lot of fun.
	Oh, my God, he's so cute.
	And they'll dress.
	Yo, hey, hey, enemy army.
	We're here to have lots of sex with you.
	Boy, we'll take one for the whole team.
	She will do the whole team.
	They would wave the white flag right there.
	Donning, you will wave your string or how you call it.
	They would just bang the hell out of all of you and then continue to fight the war and just win by default, right?
	Because that's it.
	They've just won.
	It's like an instant win.
	Remember that I said, no, we don't even have to conquer you and take your women.
	You're just going to send them over here.
	For the ladies that said yes, that y'all do think that women should be drafted.
	Do y'all think that that's actually like a smart decision for the country?
	I think it's great.
	If women wanted to be equal, equal pay, you know, ours equal to, you have to be drafted.
	I get that drug in this moment.
	Y'all being drafted.
	But do y'all really think that that is the actual smart move to win a war?
	Absolutely not.
	But equity.
	I think we did it as women.
	I think it's our fault.
	We wanted to have the same thing as a man.
	So now you have to face your consequences.
	And I get that, but again, in the Netherlands, it's normal.
	Like, do you genuinely think, genuinely think that the best way to protect our country is to draft women or have it mandatory?
	Yes.
	That's a lie.
	You just want to see women fight.
	I'm not trying to fight.
	Track record for what, like the last 40 years of losing basically every war we engage in anyway.
	I mean, maybe we just need to switch it up.
	You got to switch things up.
	Try something new.
	I'm all for it.
	In the Netherlands, it's normal.
	You never expect that tactic.
	Not in a million years.
	The all-female fighting force, no enemy would ever expect such a tactic.
	In fact, we need to draft Shoe on Head as the first woman to ever be drafted to military service.
	She's very scrappy.
	I think she would fuck some people up in the war.
	We send women out to war.
	Shoe on head, are you still here?
	She would samurai flip and have katanas and shit.
	Do you know what she looks like?
	Huh?
	Do you know what she looks like?
	I think she's short.
	What does she say?
	Like, very cute, very skinny.
	I mean, there's a little bit of shoe simping going on there.
	I was going to say, he's like, that's all I need to know.
	She's short.
	A little bit of shoe simping.
	She's a katana-wielding, black leather-clad, samurai sword, ninjutsu killing machine.
	I mean, she's kind of a weeb, isn't she?
	I'm not.
	Are you simping right now?
	No simping.
	I'm not saying that's who sold her.
	There's a little simping going on, I think.
	No simping.
	No simping.
	No.
	No.
	I don't think it's simping.
	No simping.
	I want to send her to war to watch her.
	How is that simping?
	Because she thinks you will samurai her ass out of it.
	You're the first one to go with shoe on head.
	You were like, yeah, she's going to fix it for us.
	Yeah.
	I think, look, I think if we sent her over to some of these current ongoing military conflicts, I think it could be resolved.
	Has she even donated for you to be spending this much time talking about her?
	No, but I saw her in the chat and I saw her.
	Oh, she's a massive content creator.
	So unlike you, she's valuable.
	That's all.
	Oh.
	Oh.
	Ooh, it stings.
	He's a content creator.
	What do you say?
	Oh, it's that you're not valuable.
	Oh, it stings.
	Sting, doesn't it?
	Are you going to leave me that way or are you just going to say something back?
	Well, I'm obviously valuable.
	Like you said, I've been engaging in every topic.
	Yeah, Andrew, she can do it for your teams.
	Listen, at this point, it's just, it's half the fun of the spirited back and forth because you're a brat.
	It's like, okay, if you're going to be a brat, we'll just be, you know, like, that'll just be how it is, I guess.
	Don't turn me on now.
	Okay, yeah, I believe.
	There's not enough tea in China.
	But that aside, I have enjoyed the spirited back and forth.
	That's for sure.
	It's been good.
	It's been good.
	By the way, TTS is $100 if you guys want to get a TTS in.
	We might do, I don't know if we all have time for a row session.
	We'll see.
	Oh, here's a question related to this war stuff.
	You know what?
	I want, I think we send Anissa and you and you and you.
	We send you guys.
	We should send you guys to boot camp.
	How do you think I would do?
	You would kill it.
	You used to play.
	I think so.
	Right?
	Yeah.
	You've got a great underhand throw.
	You could lob a grenade far, I bet.
	Probably pretty far.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But you just send her.
	She's a distraction.
	She's sports, any sports.
	Come on.
	What do you do?
	I go to the gym.
	I'm not playing sports, though.
	You didn't play sports in high school or anything?
	I swam a bit.
	You swam a bit.
	Yeah, not for my high school sports.
	So you like doggy paddled and no, not for my high school.
	Sports.
	I played volleyball and soccer in high school.
	No, anymore, though.
	Sports.
	I was a dancer.
	Twerking does not count.
	Competitive.
	This is competitive.
	What do you animate?
	Dancing.
	Hip-hop.
	Hip-hop.
	Can you show us a little?
	Show us a plie.
	I'm okay.
	Tell you what, I will settle for a pirouette, which is hard to say.
	My pirouettes aren't that good.
	They're there, but I'd rather not.
	Typical.
	Typical.
	Sub-par sub-par pirouettes.
	Unacceptable.
	My pirouette's not sub-par.
	I changed my hand.
	Oh, it's the plie that's sub-par.
	No, none of it is.
	Why do I know this?
	All right.
	Let's see here.
	Andrew is dying to ask this question.
	He sent me a text and he's like, Brian, please ask this question.
	Who do you think is the prior?
	It's related because we've been talking about war.
	Who do you think is the primary?
	The Rosetta Stone donated $100.
	That the number of feminists on the Titanic declined dramatically as fuel life boats became available.
	Self-identified feminists should need to register for drafts.
	Feminists can be snipers and shields.
	This exactly my point.
	Okay, honey, I do have a question for the whatever chat.
	And maybe you can send in just like a slew of $10 supers so that we can get the answer to this.
	Was Jack from the Titanic the biggest simp in movie cinema history?
	Well, I mean, so I mean, just pointing out, he met the chick, only slept with her once, and then died in the freezing water and giving up his perfectly good door for this spoiled rich brat, who, by the way, was also cheating on her betrothed.
	So I just wanted to point out: I think he might be the biggest mega ultra simp in all of movie cinema history.
	He deserves an abortion.
	Also, who here has seen Titanic?
	Is that, I think that's everybody.
	I haven't seen it.
	Well, you know, look, there's a lot of competition here.
	Also, that movie is, keep in mind, this is a woman on her deathbed.
	And her last thought before she dies is not, she's with her grandchildren, her children, whatever.
	It's not, oh, this last husband.
	This thought was of a necklace that was worth a ton of money that she regretted throwing away.
	That was what her last thought was.
	And that, and it reminded her of Jack, but it was really about this diamond, you know, encrusted necklace.
	That was what she was really pining about.
	But it's like, damn, that's brutal.
	Like, her last thought is not about her husband, her children, grandchildren.
	It's like, here's a guy I fucked on a boat.
	No, no.
	Her last thought was about the gift that was given to her that she didn't drew.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I think, yeah, no, I think I don't even agree that it was even about him.
	Now, I think Forrest Gump is the big dragon.
	Actually, got this.
	Forrest Gump is the biggest movie in the world.
	Scump didn't die for Jenny.
	Hold on.
	Andrew, check this out, Andrew.
	Okay, this is totally dating related.
	Forrest Gump.
	She rejected him.
	She rejected him.
	And then after he became a shrimp millionaire billionaire and she had a kid and HIV, now she's all like, oh, Forrest, I want to be with you.
	Okay, that's Jack.
	Hang on.
	Hang on.
	I got to give the defense of Gump here.
	Oh, no.
	In the defense of Gump, he was a low IQ tard.
	He didn't even know what the problem was.
	Okay, so the thing is, he couldn't be the biggest ultra simp because he had the cognitive ability of a 12-year-old.
	It wasn't Gump's fault.
	But in the case of Jack, he willingly gave up his perfectly good door and then died in the frozen waters.
	Like, he knew what he was doing.
	He has to take the simp prize here, Brian.
	And they could both faith on the door.
	Yes, to be honest.
	That is compelling arguments.
	Forrest Gump is a close second, okay?
	Close second.
	Wait, what about...
	Oh, I've never seen The Notebook.
	Who here has seen the notebook?
	I haven't seen it.
	Doesn't this guy build this chick a house?
	And you're not even together.
	Right?
	I'll know what happens.
	Don't spoil it for me because one day some girlfriend will convince me to watch this shit.
	I've never seen it yet, though.
	Didn't he build Forrest Gump?
	No, no, in the notebook.
	I haven't seen this shit.
	Did this guy watch the notebook?
	What's that?
	I said, why would you ever watch the notebook?
	Yeah, I haven't yet.
	Neither have I. Lord willing, I'll never have to watch it.
	But it might happen.
	You never know.
	Maybe I'll be curious one day.
	Like I saw the Barbie movie a couple weeks ago.
	My goodness.
	Oh my goodness.
	Marian, this thing was not so good.
	Who here likes it?
	Yeah, it turns out that when women have no sexual anatomy, according to that movie, still the simps will come out to simp for them.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Who likes the Barbie movie?
	I never watched it.
	Come on.
	You were about to raise your hand.
	I love the Barbie movie.
	You like the Barbie move?
	I haven't seen it.
	Good.
	Don't watch it.
	Have you seen Barbie?
	Yeah.
	Did you like it?
	Yeah.
	I liked it.
	Yeah.
	Damn, bro.
	Didn't they talk about the patriarchy in there?
	Oh, the question was, Andrew's been DMing me.
	He's been very, very insistent.
	I asked this question.
	Who is the primary victim of war?
	men or women in death men so In totality.
	So in war, there's civilian casualties and there's military deaths and there's economic impacts and familial impacts.
	In totality.
	Who's the primary victim of war?
	Men or women?
	I think everyone.
	Well, if you had to pick one.
	Okay, if we're talking about lives, men.
	No, in totality.
	So I'm factoring.
	So I'm factoring.
	You can factor in any.
	Okay, I'm just considering your life to be the most important thing, so men.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	I think men as well.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I would say men.
	Sure.
	Men.
	Me.
	Men. Men. Men. Men. Men. Ah. Men.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That's fair.
	I say women.
	what uh madison's been kind of telling me like she really wants to ask here madison why don't you just ask the question Go ahead.
	What's your body count?
	Starting to tickle it.
	It's in the 30s.
	It's not that high for an OnlyFans girl.
	And someone who's ran through like a football team.
	Anybody would like to talk about that?
	Just one?
	Aren't those rookie numbers?
	Yeah, they are.
	Numbers for sure.
	So, any point to say before I go going around the table, body count.
	Come on, half more, another half hour.
	Yeah, we're almost done.
	No, I was trying to.
	I'm sorry.
	Nicolette, you have to stay.
	Nicolette, you have to stay for the roast session.
	Which we're starting in a minute.
	We're going to start that really soon.
	We're almost done wrapping it up.
	Don't you go out to like bars and clubs and you're like, eh, it's 3 a.m.
	Yeah, but I'm stimulated constantly.
	Get this girl a speed ball.
	No, I want an energy drink.
	Get her an energy drink.
	And another champagne.
	Please.
	Just give her the whole champ.
	Wait, will you chug the whole champagne bottle?
	How much is left?
	Not much.
	Wait, she finished it?
	We finished it, but we have the wine.
	Oh, okay.
	We can do it.
	White or red?
	Red.
	Wait.
	Okay, before I ask a question.
	Wait, do you think body count matches?
	Champagne?
	No, wine.
	Oh, all right.
	Give me the wine.
	Give me the energy drinks.
	Let's go.
	Come on.
	Do you think body count or wait?
	I'll frame it like, do you think it's insecure for men to care about body count?
	Do you object to men caring about body count?
	No.
	Okay.
	No.
	I don't think it makes them insecure, but I don't particularly want them.
	Like, I think, I don't think they should care about body count.
	They shouldn't care.
	Okay.
	No.
	No.
	I don't think it's insecure for them to think about it.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	No.
	If they care about the woman's body count, then I think they should care about their own.
	Thank you.
	Okay, sure.
	Not insecure.
	Okay.
	I agree with Noel, right?
	Yeah, that they should care about their own body count and the girl that they're with.
	So going around the table, Maddie's question: what's everybody's body count?
	Two.
	Two?
	Okay.
	Less than 10.
	I'm going to say no comment.
	You want to give a range?
	Is that like less than 50?
	Yeah.
	Less than 50.
	Less than more than 40?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	Because you said less than 50, so it would be like more than 40.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Morgan.
	One.
	Why do you say it like that, Morgan?
	Okay.
	I said one.
	All right.
	What about you?
	One.
	One.
	Okay.
	Nicolette, 30, right?
	30 plus.
	Okay.
	One.
	Okay.
	Two.
	Yep.
	Seven.
	One.
	I don't share my body count.
	Sorry.
	Anyways, good talk, guys.
	Good talk.
	We're going to do the roast session here in just a sec.
	Well, hang on.
	Not to belabor the point, but you did just say that body count doesn't matter, right?
	You did say that, right?
	Just want to make sure that I got this right.
	Wait, so this is a third third from my right.
	Okay, yeah, you.
	You said that men shouldn't care, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay, gotcha.
	And you did give your body count, correct?
	No.
	No.
	Okay, well, wait, I'm just really curious.
	I thought it didn't matter.
	Yeah, it doesn't.
	That's why I don't care.
	Okay, well, then why would you care about giving it out?
	It's like me saying, oh, this dollar doesn't matter to me.
	And then someone's saying, well, give it to me then.
	And I'm like, well, no.
	It doesn't matter, right?
	Like, it shouldn't matter what it is.
	So, like, I won't stand it.
	If it doesn't matter what it is, why are you resistant to telling us what it is if it doesn't matter?
	I just don't want to.
	Yeah, but that really doesn't make much sense if it doesn't matter, right?
	Yeah.
	So it does matter?
	It doesn't matter, but like, I only want to share that with like the person that I'm with, you know?
	Why wait?
	So it does matter to the person you're with?
	Like, I'll tell the person that I'm with, but like, I don't know.
	It doesn't matter.
	If they want to know, I'll tell them.
	But I won't, I'm not going to.
	But it doesn't matter, right?
	No, but I'm not going to willingly say it, but if they ask, I'm not going to matter.
	No, it doesn't matter.
	If they ask, I'm not going to be like, no.
	Yeah, but who just asked?
	And it doesn't matter.
	Yeah, but you're not my partner.
	Yeah, but so wait, if you would tell your partner that it must matter to your partner.
	Huh?
	What was it?
	Oh, okay, okay.
	Right?
	So, I mean, it matters?
	I'm saying, like, they shouldn't have, like, they shouldn't be like, well, that's high, or like, that type of way.
	Like, I can tell them, but I'm saying they shouldn't have an opinion, like, a negative opinion about that number.
	Wait, they shouldn't have an awesome question.
	Then, if it doesn't matter, and you just think that people shouldn't have a negative opinion, it's really strange that you won't share yours.
	Yeah.
	It makes me think that perhaps you think that it does matter and that people will judge it, yeah?
	No, I just don't like want to share that with like too many people, basically.
	But it doesn't matter.
	To my partner, yeah.
	It matters to people who aren't your partner?
	Shouldn't it matter to them the least?
	I mean, I don't care what other people think.
	I only want to tell that one person.
	Oh, well, great.
	If you don't care what other people think, and you only care what your partner thinks, and you're going to tell your partner anyway, then what is it?
	I don't know.
	I just want to tell only them.
	Oh.
	Wait, but what if it gives the guy the ick?
	Then I'll just be like, bye, okay, bye.
	No, but you said, like, guys shouldn't care or whatever, right?
	Yeah, so if they do care, then I'll be like, okay, bye.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	I thought you were more, because I mean, you have your own personal thoughts on that.
	But you're like, guys shouldn't care in general.
	Like, they just, they should not care.
	Whether I want to date them or not, totally relevant.
	Not something that men should care about.
	Yeah, I guess I'm speaking more specifically if you're in a relationship or like potentially going to be.
	Okay.
	But it doesn't matter.
	But it's fine for, it's fine.
	It doesn't matter, though.
	Right?
	It's fine if it gives them the ick, though.
	Yeah, they can, like, receive that however they want.
	Like if a girl has a body count of one and it gives a guy an egg, even if it's like, that's cool for you.
	I mean, it's not cool for me, but I'm like, but you're like fine if they, it gives them the egg.
	No, I'll just be like, okay, bye.
	No, no, he's not trying to date you.
	Like, you just hear about this.
	Oh, well, then I don't care if I don't want to date them.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Gives them the ick.
	So not to belabor the point, but body count does matter then?
	It doesn't matter.
	Then I still don't understand why you won't share yours.
	It's like, if I told you anything which I had or any information which I had didn't matter, I would happily share it with anybody or just give it to them because it doesn't matter.
	But if it doesn't matter, then why are you prying at the situation?
	I think it matters.
	She thinks it doesn't matter.
	That's why I'm prying.
	She said it doesn't matter.
	Yeah, if it doesn't matter, then why like then she shouldn't have to tell you.
	Wait, wait, what?
	If it doesn't matter, why would you care about telling me?
	It's none of your business.
	But wait, it doesn't matter.
	So it doesn't matter.
	If it doesn't matter, then even if it's none of my business, it still wouldn't matter about telling me because it doesn't matter.
	I think what she means to say is that it shouldn't matter to her partner or anybody else.
	She means to say it can be said by her.
	And that's exactly how I felt when you were answering for other people earlier.
	Can be said by her, and we don't need your interjection, which was unasked for.
	Then, why do you answer for the peanut gallery?
	Why did you answer for other people like two hours ago?
	For anybody, what was it?
	Give me a single answer I gave for anybody else when we were talking about prenups and controls.
	Oh, you had to clarify the position because you're so fucking stupid you couldn't understand it.
	Yes, I did do that.
	Now, back to the question.
	Be not, guys.
	If I can get the answer to that question, Andrew Carlos.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know.
	It's terrible.
	I'm awful.
	But anyway, if it doesn't matter, I am still confused as to why it is.
	I still would just like a direct answer to that.
	Why, if it doesn't matter, is it something that you're concerned about sharing?
	Because you said the question was if a guy like one singular guy, like would it matter to him?
	You didn't say like to everyone else.
	Yeah, I see it, Nick.
	Yeah, but it doesn't, it doesn't matter to you.
	Josh donated $30.
	You can't control how another person feels about your body count.
	You're a hypocrite, and you know it matters both ways.
	You clown.
	Josh Kay, thank you for the 30.
	Guys, we've lowered the TTS to 30.
	We're going to do the rest session, and then we'll wrap up the show.
	Nick, pull up the Intel one, real quick.
	Brian, seriously, your mods timed me out tonight.
	What the fuck?
	I guess I'll give it to Andrew and the Crucible.
	I don't know why you were timed out.
	I can review it.
	Maybe they can clue me into what happened.
	It's time out over here on the Crucible, too.
	Just to make sure it was fair.
	Yeah, I don't really oversee what's going on during the show when it comes to mod decisions.
	And unfortunately, YouTube, this is one way Twitch is way superior.
	Is like YouTube doesn't have any moderation audit.
	There's no audit log, so I can't see your messages.
	I don't know what was the origination of why you might have got timed out.
	Maybe you went on a racist rant or something, or you, I don't know, who knows?
	But if you want, you can shoot me a DM on Instagram, explain the situation.
	It was probably, what, a five-minute timeout?
	I'm sure it's, you'll be, you'll be back.
	Maybe you were.
	What is that noise?
	It's a fire alarm.
	I think it's that same thing.
	Is it from Garen?
	You can train back.
	Stop, stop, stop, stop.
	Okay, stop.
	Okay.
	Just chill.
	Bro, I swear it's about to be a dox.
	I swear it's about to be a dox.
	Okay.
	He's just worried that we're going to dox.
	Don't, please don't dox.
	Do you know what I'm talking about?
	What does dox?
	Give away the location of where we are.
	Yeah, give away the location of personal information.
	That's what stop.
	Okay.
	So, all right.
	Okay.
	If you want, guys, get your TTSs in.
	Get your TTSs in, guys.
	If you want.
	Where the hell is that coming from, Brian?
	I don't know.
	There's some fire alarm going off.
	It's not too bad.
	It's pretty.
	It's not super loud.
	Am I tripping or do you guys smell that too?
	Yeah, we smell it too.
	Yeah, there.
	I'll take a look.
	Hold on.
	You got a fire in the building?
	Yeah, you smell it, though.
	Yeah.
	It smells like bread or something.
	Yeah.
	Probably somebody, somebody's toast here, probably.
	Yeah, Barbie.
	It smells a bit about Barbie.
	Somebody's having a breadth of barbecue.
	It smells a little bit like that.
	Maybe it's just the kitchen.
	Okay, so by order, if you guys do have to rush out of the building because it's a terrible fire, who's getting out of the building first?
	I'm jumping off the fucking balcony, dude.
	I'm going last.
	I'm going last.
	Who's doing the balcony, Joey?
	Who do you think would get out the building?
	I will go last for sure.
	The wine will catch my fault.
	Chick is just going to just start knocking you aside and being like, nope, I'm getting out of the door.
	And, you know, good luck to all of you.
	I have three kids.
	I'm going to fly my way out of here.
	I don't know.
	I'm going last for sure to make sure everybody's out safe.
	For sure.
	I'm going last, for sure.
	Nope.
	I think that the men should go first.
	They should get out of the building first because of equity.
	Right, because they're more useful in the war.
	It's a standing gender tradition that men let the women get out of the building first, and I feel like...
	That's true.
	Yeah.
	So you can give the fireman.
	All right, let's get started with the roast.
	Yeah.
	The roast is already going.
	The super chats are building.
	Yeah, guys, if you want, feel free to get them in.
	TTS, I'm pretty.
	Let me see if I.
	It's bugged.
	It's probably bugged.
	Probably bugged, boys.
	There we go.
	Josh donated $30.
	Nicolette, even if there isn't a fire, jump off that balcony moi.
	I was trying to earlier.
	Brian won't let me.
	Josh K, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	GMD Jim donated $30.
	I'm not a bright man, Jenny, but I know a dirty whore when I see one.
	Die alone with your aides, Jenny.
	Boom.
	Oh, this is a good one.
	Jumps has a happy ending.
	That's true.
	That's a good roast to Force Gum.
	Wicked Wally donated $30.
	Nicolette, just so we're clear, you don't repent every day.
	Telling men you've been a very, very naughty girl is not repenting.
	I'm sorry, Daddy, for I have sinned.
	Oh, my God.
	Excuse me?
	Excuse me.
	Andrew.
	Take a shot, Andrew.
	Andrew, you need to take a shot for every roast that comes in.
	Yeah, I don't want to expire tonight.
	Thank you.
	I don't want to expire.
	I have a feeling.
	So, what happens is they build up, right?
	And then they all come through at once.
	That's how that usually goes.
	So, just hang tight.
	This is the show wrap-up.
	But we have to do the roast.
	It's like a tradition on what.
	All right.
	I'll bring it back to war conversation since nobody wants to talk about dating.
	We hate that topic.
	What years were Ron underscore Briggs donated $30?
	Andrew, what additional questions did you want to ask to my first message?
	I'll try to TTS back, but may have to do several $10 ones if the replies are too long.
	Great show tonight, everyone.
	Nicolette.
	The Rosetta Stone donated $29.99.
	Don't worry.
	I'm just in the kitchen cooking.
	Fully out of her element.
	They wouldn't make good cooks either in the military.
	Daria donated $30.
	GGW Brixon W. Andrew.
	Thanks for playing the bow video.
	Thank you, Chris.
	Chat appreciates it.
	Also, Andrew, please grow your beard back.
	07.
	My sprinkler goes like TSTSTSTS TSTSTS TSTSTSTHTCHT.
	Giant L C H T C H T C H Giant L. Was Labor Day yesterday?
	Yes.
	Is this all they got, Brian?
	I thought this was a rose session.
	Yeah, they said we are not good cooks, but we can suck cock.
	That's it.
	Nice.
	I already knew that.
	You want them to come to me?
	GMD Jim donated $30.
	These women are like fine wine.
	They should be locked in a dark, cold cellar for 10 to 20 years.
	Give me Yushi.
	Thank you, Jim.
	That's a good one.
	So he thinks that we're going to age like fine wine and get hotter.
	Yeah, that is true.
	Thank you.
	You can fuck us up.
	It's fine.
	Yeah.
	Speak for yourself.
	Wow.
	To be providing.
	I will bow for him.
	So what years were World War II?
	From what year to what year?
	Like 1946 to like something.
	To something.
	Okay, 1946 to when.
	Oh, I was right, wasn't I?
	Yeah, to when.
	I think it lasted like one to two years.
	So it ended in 1948?
	Either 47 or 48.
	Yeah, the 47, 48.
	That was hot as fuck.
	I got that right.
	That was a tough time for.
	And who answered that question correctly?
	Nicolette, of all people.
	That's crazy.
	Anybody else want to try to answer this question?
	Y'all know what Labor Day?
	Hang on, Inga.
	You can't take credit for that just because you watched the movie Saving Ryan's Privates 100 times, and so that came through a bunch.
	You can't take credit for that.
	Never heard of it, but it sounds good.
	So going around, what years were World War II?
	I just answered.
	Go ahead.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	No idea.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Oh, that's fine, whatever.
	I was going to guess like 41 to like 45, probably.
	Okay.
	No idea.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Is it 1943 to 44, 45?
	That was the first one, right?
	You're all wrong.
	Even me?
	Even you.
	Really?
	1939 to 1945.
	Oh, wow.
	Why'd you make me think I was right?
	I couldn't just.
	It made you so happy for a moment.
	No, you were so happy.
	It did.
	He's a gaslighter.
	That's the definition I'm going to do.
	Yeah, I definitely gaslit you.
	Gaslit you.
	Well, I'll continue to gaslight you then.
	What years were World War I, Nicolette?
	No idea.
	Wild guess.
	It happened before 1930.
	Okay, so the year 200?
	When was it?
	I don't know.
	Ask Andrew.
	It happened before the year what?
	1930.
	Okay.
	I mean, I guess it's not terrible.
	Can I phone a friend?
	In the year 100 AD.
	Yeah, 100 AD.
	569.
	Oh, man.
	Take a crack.
	Okay, I'm going to say 1913 to 1915.
	Okay.
	It's actually a pretty good crack, right?
	She took a pretty good crack.
	Decent crack.
	I'm good at cracking things.
	An attempt was made.
	All right, what about you?
	I'm a biology major.
	Let's ask her.
	What is the mitochondria?
	The powerhouse of the cell.
	Damn it, Nicolette.
	Motherfucker.
	Okay.
	What is epidermis?
	Epidermis is a layer of skin.
	Hi, angelic.
	Nice to see you.
	No hard feelings after ghosting me.
	But you also suck.
	Boom roasted.
	At Old Man Marine.
	So, Andrew, was I correct?
	Epidermis is a layer of skin, yes or no?
	I don't know what the fucking epidermis is.
	It's just making shit up to make the show fun.
	Can we let engine equal to the film?
	Josh donated $30.
	Nicolette is filled with more plastic and salty sploooge than the ocean.
	That being said, I'm in love with the Dutch like a white guy with lightning bolt tats.
	I love it too.
	Thank you.
	Church Underscore of underscore Thcientology donated $30.
	Chair 1 looks at Brian the way that Nicolette looks at a double bacon cheeseburger with fries under the shade.
	Andrew, grow back your beard.
	You look like you'd sub to someone's earth without it.
	Can we have a picture of him with a beard?
	Do we have a picture of him with a beard?
	I'm very curious, right?
	I mean, just other times he's been on the show, he's had more of a beard.
	Andrew, as your publicist, you can no longer shave.
	You can upkeep the beard.
	You can't change it.
	Rational underscore redneck donated $30 to the OnlyFans model.
	If you do custom content, I have a request.
	I want a video of your father saying he's proud of you.
	It's so not fetish, I know.
	Don't kink shame.
	Which model?
	There's two.
	Yeah, there's two.
	Well, my father's dead, so.
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah, my daughter, my dad went out for milk, never came back, so I don't know.
	Okay, hang on.
	I do have a special one here for Jessica Rabbit.
	They want to know when you think the War of 1812 happened.
	The War of 1812.
	Ripped Richard Rare donated $30.
	Fat boy Andrew Captain save a single mom simply like my titties don't jiggle jiggle.
	It folds.
	I like to see it wiggle wiggle for sure.
	It makes my titties want to dribble dribble, you know.
	Fat as.
	Also, I don't know why they come to you, Andrew, with the fat comments.
	I feel like they should only come to me now.
	Why do you call yourself fat?
	Andrew, how much do you weigh?
	I weigh 200 pounds.
	Oh, yeah, I got you, P, bro.
	Andrew, or Brian, don't be so.
	Toast donated $30.
	Nicolette mirrors can't talk.
	Lucky for you, they can't laugh either.
	Boom-roasted.
	Thank you, Toast.
	It wasn't that good.
	She wants to be roasted.
	She wants to be boom-roasted.
	I want to be roasted, and you guys are boring.
	She wants to cry.
	Let her cry, Daddy.
	I want to cry.
	I have a degradation kink, so keep it coming.
	Make her cry.
	See, I wrote down some roasts.
	Oh, I could just read.
	Rosie.
	So happy.
	Chill.
	Why didn't it stay to fucking read boring comments?
	Okay.
	Nicolette, you are what happens when women drink during pregnancy.
	Nicolette.
	That's a good thing.
	Real Christian donated $30.
	I got more hole.
	Andrew, using your logic, who would want you to keep smoking cigarettes every day more?
	The devil or God?
	And why do you ignore God and continue to sin?
	This who's a real Christian BS is utter comedy.
	Yeah, so let's dive into it, right?
	I think that that's a fair question.
	I don't think that there's a moral ought when it comes to smoking, and neither does the church, which is why they have no position on it, you fucking idiot.
	Whereas if you're talking about the sin of sexual sin, Church Under Court underscore Thientology donated $30.
	I just want someone to believe in me as much as Dutch Jessica Rabbit believes in that top.
	And I want someone to support me as much as the chair supports Nicolette.
	Oh, darling, subscribe for my own events.
	It's free.
	I can give you every support you need, darling.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	Keep it coming.
	Come on.
	Yeah, it's nice.
	Andrew, did you want to finish with the smoking?
	Yeah, I was just saying there's no moral out there.
	There is when it comes to sex work, when it comes to prostitution, it's very specifically stated.
	The church has a position on that.
	Even your church, whatever heresy church you belong to, has a position on that.
	So, so yeah, fuck off, right?
	You got nothing.
	It's just like saying alcohol is a sin.
	It's not a sin.
	I drank, too, right?
	So, yeah, what do you want me to say?
	No, I think that if you engage willingly in prostitution, even though you know it's wrong to do, and the only ought you have to do it is, well, it goes out makes me money, though.
	Yeah, I would say that that's pretty brutal.
	It's like spitting in the face of God from my perspective.
	So, did you have anything else fucking moron, or was that it?
	Okay.
	I have more roasts for Nicolette, though.
	Did you come up with these yourself?
	I just, they're just kind of in my brain.
	Okay, keep going.
	They're really good.
	Okay, so there is, you know, you're single, right?
	There is someone out there for everyone.
	For you, it's a therapist.
	That was insane.
	No, I don't know.
	That was good.
	You are the reason why there are instructions on shampoo bottles.
	I have seen better-looking ladyboys than you.
	You look like a playable character in an off-brand Guitar Hero game.
	What's it like being the least popular girl at the orgy?
	No, that's not true.
	Hang on, do Fupa Lives Matter?
	Oh, boy.
	I've got a Foopa.
	And back in the day, back in the day, Thicker Woman or the Rich Woman.
	Okay, sorry that I can afford to eat.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Sorry.
	You can definitely afford to do that.
	Yes, I can.
	And if that's all you have to say about me, is oh, I'm fat or whatever.
	I didn't say anything of the sort.
	Fupa, guns.
	Look.
	Which I'm going to start using that word now.
	Gunt.
	It's a good word.
	It kind of rhymes with cunt.
	You like to be called.
	Shakespeare over here.
	Real Shakespeare over here.
	Look, me, Nicolette, and Andrew are all going to join Weight Watchers.
	And this time next year, we're all going to be a bad boy.
	What are you talking about?
	I'm already, I've been doing personal training for a while now.
	You don't even show your body, though.
	Andrew showed me all the time.
	Wait, I show my body all the time.
	I've been on that show plenty of times in person.
	What are you talking about?
	I've never seen it.
	Show us your tummy, yeah.
	So what does that have to do with anything?
	It's easy to fucking talk shit about someone.
	Have you seen other solar systems?
	Do those also not exist because you haven't fucking seen them?
	Like, what are you talking about?
	She donated $30.
	Nicolette brings nothing to the table, but she also leaves nothing on the table.
	Oinkoink, baby.
	I didn't get that one.
	Have you seen Gravity before, Nicolette?
	Have you seen it?
	What's it look like?
	Donnie donated $30.
	I'm here to redeem myself.
	My sprinkler goes like this.
	And goes back like this.
	Meatbirus donated $30 to the middle chick, the one that looks like Catherine Han from Wish.
	If I had a choice of choosing you are the real Catherine Han, it choose Brian Stumpy Bumpy.
	I would choose Brian's Humpty Dumpty also.
	Random hero donated $30.
	I don't even know why Andrew felt the need to smoke during this dream.
	He was chewing Nicolette gum all night.
	Boring.
	Thank you, Random Hero.
	Appreciate it.
	Great to say she donated.
	Nicolette says she spreads the word of God, but yelling, oh God, in the badies, not spreading the word of God.
	Also, she's not Christian.
	She's agnostic.
	Shout out to the girl next to Nicola in white.
	Snipe Moral donate the sense.
	Nicolaite, close your legs.
	I can hear your down underneath.
	Everybody loves to do that, doesn't it?
	Hi, I'm Orgy.
	That's not a Dutch.
	It was a Dutch.
	Dutch voice.
	It was a good one.
	I can't understand them.
	It was a good one.
	I'm going to do French Canadian now.
	Can we go back to Angelic?
	But when she goes to their men, he gives it and he was so mad.
	You ghosted him and he was like, I didn't ghost him.
	He's someone who watches the podcast and he damned me on Instagram.
	I replied to be nice, you know?
	And then I just like, I get like thousands of Instagram DMs.
	I'm not gonna lie.
	I don't look at them.
	Like after the podcast, I'll look and like try to say thank you to people who complimented me.
	But after that, like, I don't have time to just sit.
	I don't like sitting on my phone.
	So, yeah, I just don't answer DMs.
	Sorry.
	You are so mad.
	Do you play?
	I'm sorry.
	I don't know what you said.
	You do Twitch.
	Yeah, Twitch.
	Is it like a video game thing?
	Some people play video games on Twitch.
	I kind of do like mental health awareness.
	So is it like live?
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	It's cool.
	It's beautiful.
	All right, talk more shit, Go.
	She needs to.
	Oh, you want me to roast you more?
	Okay.
	How many did you make?
	Let's see.
	Anyone that fucks you should be able to write it off on their taxes as a charitable contribution.
	I like that.
	That was harsh.
	Let's see.
	Come on, that one was funny.
	That one was funny.
	I like that one too, Andrew.
	You can't just acknowledge that that was a funny one.
	That was funny.
	I did.
	Yeah.
	She learned long ago that the amount of time people can tolerate her is directly proportional to the amount of cleavage visible.
	I'm not sure.
	I don't have any cleavage.
	Exactly.
	Wait.
	But they've been paying attention to me for the past seven hours.
	So.
	That's been so much.
	Yes.
	Six and a half, if you want to be literal.
	Six and a half?
	Word?
	Word.
	Word.
	Wait, what about happen?
	Oh, Nick.
	Nick really wants to ask this question.
	Sigi donated $30.
	Nicolette, your picture is now replacing the gun to get people to stop smoking, because the warning says stop smoking now or look like this.
	Smokers stop smoking now in a pack.
	I'm quitting right now.
	I'm quitting forever.
	It's not as funny in the accent.
	You don't like that?
	You prefer the British guy?
	Okay, I'll do one more with a different Italian accent, then I'll put it back to English.
	Because, hold on, it's Brian.
	I'll just do it now, probably.
	That's easier.
	Any final thoughts from anybody before we wrap up the show?
	Subscribe to my OnlyFans at OnlyFans.com slash NicoletteNicole.
	Too slow.
	It's alright.
	Yeah, same for me.
	Dutch Jesse Rebecca.
	It's free.
	My OnlyFans.
	I don't know anything about this skate fan shit you guys are talking about.
	Haram!
	Mine is free, my OnlyFans 3.
	Calm down.
	Calm down.
	Everyone's in hate comments.
	Yeah, look at on your Instagram, right?
	We're not doing it here.
	Y'all can follow me at part of Romero, and I'm sure That I'm losing weight, I'm putting it out there and it's not getting it back on this time again.
	Follow the whatever podcast.
	You guys can follow me.
	That's getting it back on again, right?
	Not getting back on on what?
	Losing weight.
	You lost it and got it back on, right?
	Yeah, I lost 100 pounds and I gained it back, and so now I'm losing it again.
	Hold on.
	To the middle.
	Now I'm just filming it.
	That's cool.
	Did your father die after he saw how you turned out?
	Did he do it on purpose?
	I guarantee he's happier even if he ended up in hell.
	I personally hope he ended up in town.
	Whoa, okay.
	That's fucking horrible, man.
	Don't worry about it.
	Well, he's not actually dead.
	He's just dead to me.
	Oh, so he's not dead.
	Nicolette.
	Hey, I have the same thing.
	I knew she was.
	I fucking knew she was dead.
	I have the same thing, so good for you.
	I think Roscoe underscore on underscore YouTube donated $37.77.
	Retired combat veteran of the Iraq war.
	So, this might be rough.
	We all bleed red, but in Nicolette's case, when she gets cut or removes the campon, gravy pours out.
	What?
	Oh, seven to you, Andrew, and Brian and crew.
	What comes out?
	Thank you, Walking Roscoe.
	Gravy comes out.
	Thanks for your service.
	That is kind of gross, but I appreciate the message, Roscoe.
	Appreciate it.
	Who has not been roasted?
	We need a roast for each of the girls.
	Brian hasn't been roasted at all.
	I've there hasn't been a single roast of Brian to.
	Well, I think I've been roasted a little bit.
	By who?
	His feelings.
	Not a single one, Brian.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Even I took some plaque.
	Not a single one.
	Oh, boy.
	Well, okay, here it comes.
	Did you make a roast for Brian back in your head?
	I was thinking about one, but I can't.
	You like him?
	It's okay.
	the nice guy.
	Brian is a nice guy, but you can direct the ire this direction.
	I'm not.
	I'm not a nice guy.
	I think that that's fair.
	Why are you not nice?
	Well, because I think that niceness is a subterfuge way in modernity to avoid telling any sort of truth of any kind.
	But lying is not nice, and you're not lying.
	No, no, no, it's not kind.
	So I don't conflate the two.
	I think I'm a very kind man.
	I just don't think I'm a very nice man.
	And also, Brian doesn't give us enough information about himself to write.
	It's mysterious.
	Yeah.
	It's a mystery.
	What do you mean?
	I'm super.
	I talk.
	Hold on.
	But you are mysterious.
	I find inbred dater.
	What?
	Wait, what?
	You're an inbred dater.
	First off.
	Desperate.
	I am not related to her.
	Okay, first off.
	Secondly, I go into detail about...
	Brian's the underbite king.
	Underbite?
	General underscore Jack underscore Ripper donated $30.
	What is that?
	I was going to write something for the roast, but I can't think of anything worse than the life being demonstrated.
	Damn, Brutus.
	Jack Ripper, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	He was going to write something, but that.
	Are you doing well?
	Wait, is an underbite where the teeth?
	Is Hamsburg John?
	Oh, right.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	Yes, Brian.
	Yes.
	Is that like a godfather impression?
	Or when do you do it?
	It's just like a British underbitten check.
	The same type that you went on that date with.
	Oh, of course.
	That's the best I could do.
	It's the best I could do.
	It was decent.
	Psycho donated $30.
	Brian, I'll resort to my usual.
	You're a free rice thief curtain slapping you in the lips between the sheets.
	Wait, hold on.
	Also, you seem like you're on your period tonight.
	Fuck to us.
	Wait, tonight?
	He hasn't been tilted the whole night, though.
	I don't know.
	I don't know where that came from.
	This is like almost a backhanded, like, oh, you look good.
	Ryan's tilted.
	He's not tilted.
	Well, aren't I?
	I mean, I'm on my period every show, is the thing.
	That's not true.
	So it's like tonight.
	You weren't.
	No, you mean like every night I'm on my period.
	It's because he has a reputation to a poll, especially running these podcasts.
	What's my reputation to that poll?
	Well, the first few podcasts, you never went off on a girl.
	The past like two podcasts I've been on, you've went off on girls for like not that.
	You were a little bit harsh today.
	Yeah.
	A little bit.
	No, but I like that.
	Because he was harsh with you.
	He was super nice to everybody else.
	No, he was not harsh to me at all.
	Not you.
	I'm talking to Jessica Rabbit, Dutch Jessica Rabbit.
	A little bit.
	But to be fair, he was only kind of harsh with you because there's.
	There's nothing wrong with being harsh.
	As an online creator, you may note that slander is the order of the day from people who don't like you.
	So I could see why he would get upset if you said that there was an interaction for dating or something like that and it could be misapplied, even if it was a joke.
	So you could have communicated kindly.
	No, you mean nicely.
	See, that's what I mean, right?
	That's what I mean by the distinction between nicely and.
	I did apologize, and I mean my apologies.
	Well, I moved on.
	I've moved on.
	It's in the past.
	I am scared.
	Oh, we're about to wrap if you can wait a bit.
	Longer.
	All right, you guys have five minutes to roast.
	My baby's on.
	No, that's fine.
	Maddie, you want to take the control the show?
	We have 10 minutes to roast.
	And I'll add on another five minutes for every time you say we need less time.
	Do you want to roast?
	All right, 20.
	Maddie's joining the panel, so if you guys want to roast her, I also need to.
	We're about to wrap.
	If you can just wait till we wrap up here.
	Wait, wait, can I roast?
	Can you roast?
	Okay.
	Maddie, her.
	You're going to roast.
	Wait, you have to wait till she's going to be.
	She's going to roast me.
	No, just wait until she's sitting.
	No, wait until she's sitting next to you.
	Wait, oh my god, that is so much.
	She's going to be right next to you.
	Wait, I need to go ahead.
	Oh, my.
	Yeah, you're going to take that seat next to me.
	This is going to be really funny.
	Yeah, it's going to be BFFs.
	I'll just read this while.
	By the way, this is only TTSO.
	Rami, Canadian, 30, Washington Girl in Chair 1.
	If you're single, would Brixon be your type?
	She has a boyfriend.
	You could be the Kristen Kruek to his Tom Owen.
	You don't have to answer that.
	Nick Brown donated $30.
	Nicole is a Christian in the same way that a crackhead taking a dump on your lawn is a guardeen.
	Either way, they both stink and are full of shit.
	Okay, so Maddie's helmet.
	That was funny.
	So Maddie's helmet is to her as a slow kid's helmet is to them.
	I'm trying to say it the least offensive way.
	What?
	Are you saying this is like a retard?
	An R-word helmet?
	Yeah, you don't call retarded people retards.
	I got it.
	That's the only person that got it.
	She thought it was funny, though.
	She thought it was funny.
	What?
	Maddie gets me, okay?
	I think Nick's gonna be a little bit more comfortable.
	Wait, did she say that last show?
	What?
	Maddie gets.
	Didn't somebody say that?
	Or was this a deja vu?
	It was.
	Somebody said, like, Maddie gets.
	I've never actually interacted with Maddie, really.
	I have no idea.
	No idea.
	Let's see what else we have here.
	Your business cards.
	Did you subscribe?
	No.
	Oh.
	Who was it that wanted to talk about red flags?
	Me?
	Here.
	Nicole.
	Okay.
	What are your red flags, Nicolette?
	And men?
	Sure.
	Or what?
	Yeah, what are your red flags, I guess?
	Red flags would be not paying on the first date.
	Yep.
	Getting drunk on the first date.
	And wanting to fuck with no condom during a one-night stand.
	And having a small penis.
	But you go to the abortion clinic often, so that's without a condom, right?
	It's a red flag.
	Okay, so I go to the abortion clinic.
	First of all, I would love to educate not only the women at this table, but the audience.
	Nick, could you open the door?
	So condoms are only 97% effective, and that's when used correctly.
	It's a fact.
	Look it up.
	Okay.
	Jay donated $30.
	Brian, your beer game is weak.
	Exclamation mark.
	Boom.
	Roasted.
	Nicolette, do the cankles match the gun?
	Shout out to Andrew, Nick, Madison, Morgan, and the rest of the panel.
	Hi, Jay.
	Yo, Jay, good to see you in the chat, man.
	Thank you for the TTS.
	Really appreciate it.
	Mucho.
	Gracias.
	Thank you.
	I don't speak Spanish.
	No, Español.
	Something.
	What's that thing from Deadpool?
	Bibliotheca?
	Donte estada la ede.
	Library?
	No, but what does he say?
	It's like donte estad la biblioteca.
	Never watched it?
	Where is the library?
	What does he say in Deadpool?
	Wait, chat, can you guys help me?
	What does he say in Deadpool?
	Let's see.
	Oh, is it a deal breaker if a guy will not go down on you?
	Yes.
	Deal breaker.
	Like, he will never do that?
	Like, never.
	Not even on Valentine's Day.
	Not even in a relationship for surrender.
	Never, never.
	Brian doesn't do that.
	No, but what does he say in Spanish, guys, from Deadpool?
	I think that's the right one.
	Donte estad la biblioteca?
	Is that it?
	Is that what I'm saying?
	That's the only part that's in Spanish.
	Like, what's the context?
	Why is he asking?
	No, let's address the fact that Brian doesn't go down on girls.
	He doesn't say that.
	He has before.
	John underscore A donated $30.
	Why would anyone subscribe to Nicolette's only fans?
	It looks like both her and the economy were affected by inflation.
	Damn.
	Okay, thank you.
	Thank you, John, for the TTS.
	Appreciate it.
	But he expects girls to go down on him.
	But if there's a big labia in the way, he has to do like a fucking...
	But he prefers it.
	Hashtag big labia.
	No.
	You have to actually open it, then he will be tired.
	Well, he prefers big labia, but he also prefers not to go down on one of them.
	I just point out how weak your double standard is here.
	Well, he expects women to go down on him, but he won't go down on them.
	He also expects women to have the children, but I'm sure that the women don't expect him to have the children.
	Well, I'm the same, Brian.
	I expect men to go down on me, but I won't go down on them unless I'm dating them.
	Wow, okay.
	Oh, unless you're dating them.
	Yeah.
	I won't go down all day.
	I'll bow down.
	Bow down.
	Wanna come to your football players?
	Fuck no.
	Just a question.
	That's a yellow card for you.
	Foul?
	Foul.
	That's a yellow card.
	I shouldn't implement the cards a bit more.
	You should have.
	You're so.
	Are you okay?
	You alright?
	Do you want an award?
	Simply.
	Nicolette, what's your type?
	My type.
	Oh, let's do the Patrice video, Nick.
	We haven't done the Patrice video in a while.
	Let's do that.
	What was the other thing we had to do?
	Maddie, you had a question for everybody?
	No.
	Don't.
	Maddie?
	She asked what my type was.
	Oh yeah, I asked what everyone's type is.
	I'll see you guys.
	Get going.
	Yeah, I got to go.
	Be safe.
	No.
	My only fence is the Dutch Jessica Rabbit.
	It's free.
	I see the reaction.
	My Instagram is the Dutch Jessica Rabbit as well.
	My own offense is totally free.
	I have to go all the way home.
	I want her next to me.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, well, here, let me pause the TTS temporarily and then we'll do the Patrice video.
	We have not done this in a while.
	Go ahead, Nick.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Here's a question.
	Here's a serious question.
	Okay, ladies, if you didn't.
	Can you show a vagina?
	Wait, pause it, pause, pause it, pause, pause.
	I think we have the Discord available.
	Can we show Andrew?
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	Okay, yeah, go ahead.
	Start from the beginning, if you can.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Here's a question.
	Here's a serious question.
	Okay, ladies, if you didn't have a vagina, like say it was a terrible train accident, right?
	And the doctor was like, we have to remove your pussy right away or you're going to die.
	How would you keep your man past, you get a two-month guilty, I can't leave the bitch right away because you just lost a pussy in a train accident.
	Can't just walk right out on him.
	How would you keep your man past that if you didn't have a vagina?
	Pause.
	My answer to that.
	Okay, actually, go ahead.
	My answer to that would be: I have two other working holes.
	Okay, sure.
	What about you?
	I wouldn't have to keep mine.
	He already would.
	Stay with me.
	I'm sorry.
	What?
	I wouldn't have to keep mine.
	Like, I wouldn't have to do anything.
	She would never be sexy.
	He would already stay with me.
	Well, no, we would.
	Willingly.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	But what would you do?
	Like, what would you do?
	But nothing out of the ordinary.
	Like, nothing different.
	Nothing would change.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I would, like, obviously use my other holes and maybe get another woman.
	A what?
	Another woman.
	And let him be with some clients.
	Another woman's clients.
	Yeah.
	Nothing would change.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What?
	You don't want to answer?
	That's fine.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Just love them.
	Love them?
	Okay.
	If that's all it takes him to leave me, then he can leave.
	I'm fine with him leaving.
	Honestly, I would still love him the same that I did before, but for me, I've answered this before.
	But would he love you?
	Well, I know, I know.
	It's okay.
	I show my love through a lot of support.
	Like I said earlier, like building my man up.
	Also, like, I'm very traditional in the sense of like I do want to stay home.
	I do want to raise the kids.
	And like, I'm okay cooking.
	I can literally cook meals from scratch.
	I made cereal from scratch.
	You turn butter?
	I am going to learn.
	I'm making yogurt next.
	Okay, Norris.
	All right.
	But anyways, yeah, just support him and love him to the ends of the world.
	Okay, we'll play the rest of the clip.
	Wow.
	Nothing?
	You can talk.
	You can talk.
	Suck his dick.
	Okay.
	Mouth.
	Asshole, okay, great.
	Do you see what I'm saying?
	Now, I've been getting pussy bean the whole show, right?
	But I give women an opportunity to say, I'm going to make myself worth more.
	But you just classified yourself as a series of holes.
	But, you know, I'm.
	I'm supposed to teach you special, but you're just a bunch of holes to yourself.
	No one said learn how to play Xbox, learn how to play pool, tell better stories, get another bitch that got a pussy to come on in.
	Well, look, whatever.
	All right, there it is, Nicolette.
	So, Jessica Rabbit did say she would bring in another woman.
	Yep.
	And in my opinion, sex is a huge part of a relationship.
	So if I would not be able to do that, I'm going to get cheated on, and that's just a fact.
	And Angelica will just learn all of his lovely skills so you can seek and support him for sure.
	Sure.
	All right.
	I'll let the TTS come through.
	GMD Jim donated $30.
	Andrew does not seem nice because he is an actual Christian and tells the truth.
	The truth does not sound nice to sinners.
	But telling the truth is an actual loving act, not being nice.
	Brian's missing balls donated $30.
	Brian, you're a pathetic simp for begging the girls to stay even after mad disrespect versus kicking and removing mentions.
	It's their privilege to be here, not yours to have them keep the leverage and frame.
	John underscore A donated $30.
	Thank you.
	If some of you didn't have vaginas, you would probably be a bit taller on those chairs.
	What does that even mean?
	I do not know.
	What does that mean?
	I don't know.
	What does that even mean?
	Is he saying we have dicks?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Then you will be like.
	Or have balls.
	Would we not have sense?
	Okay, Brian, do you think that we've disrespected Yale?
	Uh, yes.
	Who?
	Not me.
	Massive disrespect.
	I didn't know.
	I couldn't even roast you.
	Disrespect.
	It's unbelievable the amount of disrespect on this panel.
	I think Brian likes it.
	Nah, definitely don't like it.
	I thought before it just never happened, but now he just happened and he just liked it, right?
	No, Brian, you're a BFF.
	A what?
	You're a BFF.
	Of you.
	You just got a friend.
	You're friends owning Brian?
	Good.
	Good.
	He likes us all as much as he doesn't want to admit it.
	He thinks we're all funny and he enjoys our company.
	That's why he doesn't want to.
	I think you're all funny.
	Well.
	Nicolette's funny.
	Oh, thank you.
	I don't know if any other girl here at the table is fun.
	No offense.
	I didn't really hear any jokes or anything.
	Jessica Rabbit.
	She's funny.
	Jessica Rabbit was kind of funny.
	Jessica Rabbit's funny.
	She's funny.
	Oh, thank you for saying something nice about me.
	Nicolette wasn't very funny.
	But Jessica Rabbit is funny.
	Madison's funny.
	Thank you, Andrew.
	Wow.
	And the girl who was sitting here earlier was funny.
	You see what happens when you call me handsome, right?
	Right at the end of the show, I give you a good idea.
	I was going to handsome at the beginning of the show, but you didn't hear.
	I said he was funny or hot, too.
	And I said you were low, Andrew.
	I said you were handsome as fuck at the beginning of the show, but you didn't hear it.
	Ryan was asking you, did he hear it?
	And I was like, oh my God.
	He didn't hear.
	I don't think.
	This always bothers me.
	I don't think I like this girl left, that girl left.
	I don't think I begged them.
	I was just like, okay, later.
	Yeah, too, because they could have stuck it out right at the end.
	Yeah, I'm going to wrap here within the next five minutes.
	Just need some pizza.
	That's supposed to be nice.
	Pizza.
	Yeah, it's okay, though, whatever.
	People gotta go.
	Ryan, okay, can you go around the table and say something nice about all of us girls?
	You know what?
	That's a great idea.
	I would love to do that.
	And we'll say something nice.
	Starting with Angelica.
	Say something back.
	Starting with Angelic.
	Angelic.
	It can't be backhanded.
	Is a good shortness.
	I told her.
	She's a good shortness.
	You're, like, 4'11".
	4, yeah.
	You have – sorry, hold on, let me – Let me think about this really quick.
	You are good at existing.
	You did a great job tonight.
	Madison, you are a wonderful team member.
	Vector donated 13.
	She's a wonderful member.
	At first, I thought Nala was a handful, then came to me.
	And now here we have Nicolette.
	You are for just about as much as an AI girlfriend.
	That's why you have two hands, right?
	Come on.
	And first of all, I came before both of those girls, so get right.
	Yeah, Nicolette's the OG.
	She's an OG.
	Thank you.
	So, and compliment me, but don't say I'm funny.
	Okay.
	There's never going to be an issue there.
	You're a good sport.
	Thank you.
	You're a good sport.
	You are probably going to be one of the hardest working people ever.
	Cool, that's really nice.
	Because you're Mexican and Asian.
	I said not back-handed.
	Not a compliment.
	Not a back-handed.
	It's a compliment.
	I would honestly take that as a compliment.
	It's a compliment.
	Morgan, you are very supportive of having a mixed-race child.
	Thank you.
	I'm proud of you for that.
	You have cool hair and you could be an avatar.
	I don't know if that's...
	That is a compliment.
	That's older.
	Yeah.
	Wait, you told her that?
	No.
	No, I didn't tell her that.
	Like, they should cast you.
	James Cameron should cast you in the next avatar movie.
	Dutch Jessica Rabbit.
	What about her?
	I just did, bro.
	just complimented her.
	Oh, I thought he was, she's the Avatar?
	Yeah.
	you know people are like actually attracted to avatars Oh, no, I know.
	That is, it is going to be a good thing.
	I saw that going to be a combo, though.
	No, but I thought, what about what's her name?
	Faith.
	What was Faith?
	What do you want to be a doctor?
	What is it you want to be a doctor?
	Do you compliment you, Facebook?
	Lawyer?
	Oh, yeah.
	A two-book shit.
	Killer.
	She's going to be a killer lawyer.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	Like, you know, the Johnny Depp trial, that woman who was like the, what was her name?
	Who was the one who was a little bit more?
	These are the compliments, Brian.
	What is this not good?
	She feels good.
	The female is a good idea.
	Can we go around with Andrew complimenting us after?
	He's not going to do that.
	Dutch Jessica Rabbit.
	Hell, yeah, I would.
	Okay, so we're going to go around with Andrew.
	We'll have her.
	She's waiting for her call.
	Yeah, Jesus, if there's one.
	Yeah.
	I thought you were friends.
	You like her mother?
	You're not friends anymore.
	You have greets.
	It's Jessica Rabbit.
	Yeah.
	First episodes, we were so good.
	Yeah, it was good.
	Excuse me.
	Oh, shut up.
	You cannot do that.
	are so nice together?
	You know how to pick out hair dye well, I guess.
	I get a new hair color tomorrow, it's not funny.
	You're good at it.
	You know how to go shopping, I guess.
	Anissa.
	Please just remind me how to pronounce your name.
	Anissa.
	Anissa.
	You Are good at reading some of the chats that came through.
	Can we give compliments back?
	I think you've overlussing.
	It was very good.
	Can we give them back?
	On Andrew, Jugo.
	Yeah, Andrew.
	Okay.
	Well, I'll start.
	Start with promise.
	I'll start from my right to left.
	Okay.
	My right.
	So it's Anista, is that right?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so you are definitely proof that if a person stays silent when they don't know what's going on, it is actually far better than if they open their mouth.
	And it goes back to that old saying of it's better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
	So you did a good job with that.
	Good job there.
	I'm not saying you're a fool.
	I'm just saying you are proof that that's the right way to be.
	Over to Jessica Rabbit.
	I think that you have probably potentially good takes on culture.
	I just wish I could have heard more of them, right?
	You don't sound like you're a moron.
	Sound like you have some takes about culture, which would be interesting to get into.
	To the gal next to you, you're very introspective, and I think that's a good quality and one that you should keep.
	Over to the gal next to you, you're getting paid.
	So no fucking compliment from me.
	Over to the gal, though, next to her.
	You seem like you have a kind disposition, and I would keep that.
	To Nicolette, you're just kind of a prostitute.
	But in your defense, right, when you're not being a crass, belligerent, overbearing fucking brat, there could be some redeeming qualities in there that somebody might find endearing, though I never would, but somebody might.
	And then over to Madison.
	She's like the tarted kid sister that I never had, but I will admit that she has some of the most important things.
	My apologies, Nicolette.
	I was not ranking you by order of appearance, but by order of how dirty your bedroom is.
	Sorry, Andrew, could you just repeat that last part?
	Thank you.
	I was just saying to Madison, though, she always has such a sunshiny disposition that it's always hard to not be in a room with her without kind of smiling a little bit.
	To the gal next to her, unfortunately, I didn't hear very much from you this evening, though I would have liked to have heard more to the gal who is named, what, Angelic?
	Yeah, so I can tell that there's a sinister nature about you.
	I just don't know what it is, but there's some evil behind the eyes.
	But I'm just going to be charitable, right?
	Just going to be ultimately charitable here and say that you didn't have very many bad takes tonight because you just didn't have very many takes tonight.
	But it was still nice to talk to you as well.
	Did you get yours?
	He did.
	That's sweet.
	You were about to respond.
	Go ahead.
	I thought I spoke quite a bit.
	I thought I put my input in there.
	I mean, of my own opinions or dispositions.
	Andrew, you're joking about the evil thing, right?
	No, I just, just, I don't know.
	Self-being an Uber with our don't.
	It's always the women with the names like that, like Angel.
	Oh, that's not my name.
	Or, you know, things like that that are always the most evil.
	I don't know why.
	It's like a rule of the universe.
	That's not my real name.
	That's just my online name.
	Yeah, I know, but the fact that you even picked that as an online name.
	We're supposed to be complimenting here, Andrew.
	Stop it.
	Just saying.
	Just saying.
	Can we give compliments back?
	Before we do, Nick, we need to get through a couple things.
	Nick, if you can, can you pull up Twitch?
	We'll do Discord and we'll debate you.
	I like that segment.
	I like that one.
	It was good.
	Maybe we should do it more at the end.
	That's how you should end the show.
	I actually agree.
	I think we should do that more.
	That was a good suggestion.
	Can I get paid for my idea?
	No.
	Shadow of label.
	Yeah, thank you for the tier one.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow in the Prime Sub.
	Guys, drop us a follow.
	We're going to do a raid on Twitch.
	We're going to do a raid on YouTube over to Andrew's channel.
	But if you're watching on YouTube, watching on Twitch, just quick, drop us a follow if you're not already.
	And can you check if you have a Prime sub available?
	It's a free, easy way to support the show every single month.
	If you have Amazon Prime, you could just link it to your Twitch.
	It takes a couple minutes.
	And then every single month, you can support the show.
	It doesn't cost you.
	I mean, you have to pay for the Prime Sub or the Prime membership, but you already have it.
	So you can just add value to the podcast in this sort of way that you can do essentially kind of for free.
	So thank you guys for all the follows over there.
	Emily Juwa.
	Juwa.
	Okay.
	Jordan.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate all that.
	And then we have a Discord, discord.gg/slash whatever.
	Link for that's in the description.
	Discord.gg slash whatever.
	We post BTS stuff on there.
	This guy in the pink polo, we had a delete nuke, our IRL stream that me and Maddie did on Friday because he said some very naughty things.
	So be sure to be sure to check out the Discord, discord.gg slash whatever.
	We've got a great community over there, 10,000 members.
	And then, oh, how can I forget?
	Guys, you have to go to debate university.com.
	Mate, you just stole my criticism.
	I was supposed to get to you last, and I was going to bring out, well, you didn't even bring up debate you the entire night.
	That was going to be my, yeah, but you robbed me.
	But anyway, go ahead.
	Yeah, so guys, you got to go to debateuniversity.com.
	Nick, do you have the website you can pull up?
	Guys, debateuniversity.com.
	It's a course by Andrew Wilson, Verbal Combat.
	If you want to learn how to become a master debater like Andrew, you need to get this course.
	Guys, it's now September.
	Thanksgiving, Halloween, Christmas, right around the corner.
	And listen, you know, I might take it.
	What's the first tier cost?
	Well, it costs the same for everybody.
	It's $500.
	$4.99.
	All right, so I'm going to text my sugar daddy and I'll be like, hey, so I need to become a master debater.
	I want to excuse me.
	We can do it together.
	We'll review it.
	We can review it.
	We'll share the shit.
	Maybe we'll get your sugar daddy's.
	Part of my nefarious compliment plan was to sell my courses.
	There you go.
	Now you've fallen for my trap.
	You can drop us off.
	It's fine, Daddy.
	Like I was saying, you know, Thanksgiving, Christmas, it's around the corner.
	If you want to dominate your liberal family members at the dinner table, just kidding.
	Or you're, you know what?
	If you're liberal and you want to dominate, you know, that uncle who's a MAGA Trump supporter, I guess you could take the course and smoke him too.
	So, you know, we've all got that.
	The political condos at the dinner table.
	Always wonderful.
	So, $650, not a dollar, not a dollar less.
	Not a dollar less.
	I was willing to pay $700, so that's fine.
	Well, then for you, we'll make this special exception.
	Don't worry about it.
	There it is.
	There it is.
	Okay.
	And then what else do we have?
	Any final thoughts from any of the other panelists before we wrap up here?
	Speaking of that.
	They're supposed to compliment you and I upon it.
	Oh, I don't make you shy.
	So we don't take up too much time.
	Girls, raise your hand who want to give compliments back.
	David Tuzakiak donated $30.
	Good to see you, man.
	I do not to roast guests.
	Brian is good at ignoring Weight Watchers.
	Andrew makes my six stock go to the moon.
	Morgan and Matt need to be banned from before you know what I mean.
	I didn't even do anything.
	I was just interviewing people.
	I guess he caught the comments.
	I would be okay with being banned.
	He caught the IRL stream.
	What else?
	What do we have?
	The compliments, Brian.
	The compliments?
	Yeah, I just have to go really fast.
	We can go really fast.
	So, those who don't want to give compliments, just say skip.
	You know how to show?
	Just let him go around the table real quick.
	It's almost done.
	Yeah, just to say.
	I'm good at running the show, though.
	Am I not?
	Do you want to give it away?
	You're terrible at it.
	Brian just had to stop you from doing it.
	It was evil.
	And look, you already derailed so much.
	He just wasted more time.
	I'm sorry, you're wasting so much time.
	What did you say?
	All right, let's go.
	Compliment back.
	I would say you're a funny host.
	Thank you.
	He's not a host.
	He's a guest.
	No, she's that's true.
	Oh, are you talking to Andrew or me?
	Both.
	Oh, okay.
	Both.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Andrew, I think you're very smart.
	I think I can learn a lot from you.
	And Brian, you have nice eyes.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	Wait, Brian has nice eyes?
	Sorry, Andrew.
	Yes.
	Get wrecked.
	Get wrecked.
	GG, well played.
	What about go ahead?
	I'll say a compliment for both.
	I think you guys hold yourself very well in conversations.
	Okay.
	Well, Andrew did not compliment me, so you know, I've got to give the favor back.
	But, Brian, good boss.
	Thanks for the child.
	You're welcome.
	Thanks for the child.
	Okay, you're welcome.
	You're welcome.
	I'm pretty sure it's yours, Brian.
	I'm pretty pale, Andrew, although a bit pale, but.
	I think you both are good at lightening the mood.
	Debatable.
	So I think.
	Well, I think what we do is we simultaneously make it very uncomfortable, but then we can make it.
	I'm actually the one who lightens the mood, let's be honest.
	Kind of.
	A little bit.
	A little bit.
	That's fair.
	That's fair.
	Okay, good.
	Okay, so my compliment to Andrew.
	He's smart.
	He's a great debater.
	He holds his own.
	To Brian, you're a great host.
	Always makes me feel welcomed.
	Thank you.
	I think you both.
	Well, I would say I've learned more from the both of you than I have in my college years.
	Wow.
	That's cute.
	Touching.
	Okay.
	I think you guys both expand really well on topics and open up the conversation.
	I feel that's really good.
	From the first time that I met you, you're always very nice to me, and I appreciate that.
	Good host.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Good work.
	Thank you.
	And to Andrew, I'm really like, I admire your relationship with your wife a lot, and it's like my dream.
	So I look up to you and her.
	Oh, well, that's.
	Well, now you feel bad about the evil compliment.
	That's some bullshit.
	You can't end the night like that.
	All right, all right.
	Don't cry.
	I retract the evil comments.
	Though I feel like it could be subtle manipulation.
	I'm retracting the comments.
	Okay, I'm retracting the, but listen, it was a lot of fun with all of you.
	I hope all of you come back and we can do some verbal sparring in the future.
	And yeah, thank you very much.
	Yeah.
	And I think sinister was the word, right?
	Was it sinister?
	Is that what you said?
	Well, yeah, nefarious and sinister.
	You make her cry.
	Are you?
	Andrew!
	Andrew!
	It wasn't Andrew.
	I think her own message was just so touching.
	She touched herself.
	She touched herself.
	Hold on.
	That sounds.
	Pause.
	Brian.
	No, but.
	That was really cute, though.
	Like, I was tearing up, actually.
	That was really cute.
	You are a role model to her.
	It was beautiful.
	No, she's manipulating us.
	Hypocrites, we are all hypocrites.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	I think that's totally not fair.
	I'm supposed to be able to turn on the waterworks the other way.
	That's totally not fair.
	You had a good time.
	If men go to war, what would women do at home during it?
	Cry.
	Cry cleaning.
	Jack off, cheat on him.
	Yeah.
	Start an old defense.
	Start an old defense.
	That's what they do.
	Yeah.
	Yo, Seder, thank you for the TTS.
	We're going to do a Twitch raid.
	We're also going to raid Angie's channel.
	Can we do Granny?
	Can we just like wrap the granny?
	Woo grandma.
	Yeah, we can do that.
	Yay.
	Let's see.
	We have who's live?
	Yeah, Woe Grandma's live.
	Okay, we will raid.
	Nick, could you put oh, Austin, excuse me?
	Can you, do you know how to pull up on Twitch?
	So you're going to pull up Woe.
	Is it WoW?
	Wow, or Woe?
	I always fuck it up.
	Wow, Grandma78.
	We're going to do a raid for her, then we're going to wrap the show.
	Volume on or what's that?
	Volume on or?
	Yeah, volume on is fine.
	And then you'll pull that up in the window tab, I believe.
	Yeah, window tab.
	Can you move us to the other side?
	She's really cute.
	She's live right now.
	Yeah.
	She's on Twitch playing games.
	She's like, what, 80 years old?
	Yeah, you can leave it like that.
	Okay.
	So I'll do my outro.
	Actually, we'll come back to that, but just leave it right there.
	I'll do the outro and then.
	Yeah.
	So, guys.
	Oh, call to action.
	I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this as a moment, as an opportunity to give you two a call to action.
	Would you both consider stopping sex work tonight?
	Whatever is incoming.
	Uh-oh.
	Sorry.
	It's okay.
	Let her talk.
	You don't have to mute it.
	Are we ready for whatever?
	Whatever.
	No, I'm not going to quit.
	You won't quit.
	Hi, everyone.
	I will eventually quit if it's safe enough financial to quit.
	This one I'll support me.
	It's not.
	Brian never come himself.
	Brian never comes himself.
	What the fuck?
	He's here right now.
	He's here right now.
	He's over here, but Brian never comes.
	Oh, please talk to her.
	Are they just going out of their way to make us feel like shit about each other?
	That's so sad to talk to her, Brian.
	I don't enjoy doing professional.
	This reminds me of my ex-girlfriend.
	Brian never comes.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	Terrible.
	All right.
	Why does she keep saying that?
	Okay, so let's see.
	You guys broke up.
	You never call.
	Brian, please come.
	That one.
	Okay, sorry.
	Okay, so GG.
	Well played.
	To the panel.
	Last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	I'm not going in the show.
	You guys are.
	Wait, can you boost the volume?
	It's at the top.
	You guys.
	It looks great when you come here, but I don't think I would fit in.
	Oh, I see something.
	I'll just let her play while I talk while mute her temporarily just so I can get through the send donos to wo grandma.
	Oh, she's cute.
	So, like I was trying to say, GG to the panel.
	Last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	GMD Jim donated $30.
	Jim.
	Ask Grandma what Abraham Lincoln was like.
	Boom.
	Roasted.
	Okay.
	Wait, also, I'll read this really quick.
	I forgot.
	Scott R. Rabbit, dropped the OF.
	You're more valuable than this.
	Nicolette, stop shacking our head.
	We can hear their marbles rattling around.
	That's Jessica Rabbit, also on Instagram.
	That's Jessica Rabbit.
	My OFC.
	Appreciate it.
	It's totally free at the moment.
	So, guys, like the video on the way out, please.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who so generously super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	Really means the world, guys.
	We wouldn't be able to do the show without your guys' patronage.
	We will be live again with another dating talk Sunday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara.
	07's in the chat.
	We're gonna do the Twitch raid.
	If you can pull that back up and unmute it, I guess.
	The fuck is going on with my hair?
	Holy shit.
	Damn, that's crazy.
	Wow.
	Whatever.
	All right.
	We're going to raid Wo Grandma.
	Guys, be nice.
	She's 82.
	She's playing World of Warcraft.
	She's playing the new expansion.
	I'm going to send the raid in 10 seconds.
	I need a leather.
	Before you leave, I got a jewel worker.
	Drop us a follow on Twitch.
	Thank you guys for watching.
	We're going to do a raid right now in 321.
	Thanks for watching, guys, over there on Twitch.
	Raiding that.
	And then we'll watch her for a bit.
	And she's playing Retail World of Warcraft.
	She is playing the new expansion.
	The new expansion, The War Within.
	And she's just chilling in the city or something.
	I don't know.
	She's just chilling.
	No, you're not going to.
	What?
	How many fans does she have?
	No, no, no, no.
	I'll find somebody, Katie.
	No, I'm getting a wrist, a belt, and a ring made.
	Word?
	Don't you G quit.
	No, no, she's got a guild.
	People are G quitting.
	Are guild quitting?
	Okay, there's the ring.
	There's the ring.
	That's strong.
	Strong.
	It's a strong one.
	Grandma, a raider from whatever.
	Welcome.
	Yeah.
	Make sure you're on your PG.
	Make sure you're on your PG behavior.
	Ryan, which is out of it.
	What's up?
	Which is Smash or Pass.
	Bruh.
	Let's.
	Here we go.
	That's where you call.
	That's where you're going.
	That's how you draw the line.
	That's where you draw.
	Fucking line.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Are we forgetting anything, Madison, or is that it?
	I think that's it.
	I think that's everything.
	Okay.
	Let me see if I can fuck my hair up more.
	Hold on.
	You'll need a haircut.
	That's good.
	Okay, guys.
	07's in the chat.
	I hope you guys have a good night.
	Wait, hold on.
	Let me make sure it's okay.
	Oh, we're doing a raid to Andrew, guys.
	Go over to watch Andrew's stream.
	He's going to be streaming for a little bit.
	07's in the chat.
	I hope you guys have a good night.

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