Whatever Podcast - Feminist WANTS Traditional Man?! SHAMES "Cheap" Men Who DO NOT Pay For Dates?!

Aug. 27, 2024 - Whatever Podcast

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Feminist WANTS Traditional Man?! SHAMES "Cheap" Men Who DO NOT Pay For Dates?! | Dating Talk #190

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	Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape.
	I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
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	We're starting a little late here.
	We had two no-shows, so it kind of delayed us a little bit.
	Disclaimer, the views expressed by the guests do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever channel.
	With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation.
	Go ahead.
	My name's Pearl Botts.
	I'm from Los Angeles.
	I'm 32, and I'm a singer and content creator.
	Are we going to get a little demo of the singing?
	Sure, if you want it.
	Let's do it.
	Go ahead.
	Right now?
	Right now.
	You just want me to sing anything.
	What should she sing, panel?
	What do you guys think?
	What's that song?
	At last.
	At last.
	Genome Talk.
	That's because you had another girl sing that here, huh?
	That's the only song I know.
	I don't listen to that.
	Actually, we were due to sing out of Star Is Born.
	We were.
	We were.
	Are you going to be able to do that?
	At last.
	Busted out.
	I do, yes.
	Sing your own song.
	Okay.
	At last.
	Wait, I'm kind of nervous right now.
	At last, my love has come along.
	My lonely days are over.
	And life is like a song.
	That's all you say.
	That's good.
	Yeah.
	That's good.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Now we need you to do the.
	Did you do any opera?
	I studied opera, but I don't really do it.
	So there's, what is it?
	The magic flute?
	Genome Talk?
	The Magic Flute?
	The Queen of the Night.
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah, wait, is it Queen of the Night?
	Yeah, it is.
	Aria.
	Is that what it's called?
	Wait, hold on.
	Queen of the Night.
	Aria sung by Queen of the Night.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Magic flute.
	You want to start?
	I was a color Toro Soprano, but that's a little bit more effort.
	Oh, come on.
	This is easy.
	That's easy work.
	Is it?
	Is it?
	Queen of the Night is people.
	We just opened the show.
	We just opened the show.
	Can you try?
	How about it?
	I'm ARIA.
	Give it the old college try.
	Nah, I'm good for Queen of the Night.
	Give it the shot.
	Are you going to pay me another cigar for that?
	I'll give you a $2 bill.
	Nah, nah, nah.
	That's a good deal.
	I spent a lot of money on training for opera, so that's like for special subscribers.
	You can subscribe to my YouTube channel if you want to hear that.
	Bummer.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Okay, Jordan, 26 from Riverside, California.
	And I'm a co-owner to a gym in Riverside and a personal trainer.
	All right.
	Welcome.
	I'm Pay IRL or Peyton.
	I am 27 from Massachusetts.
	I work full-time with farmers and I'm also a streamer.
	You work full-time with farmers?
	Like I help them decide which kind of feed they need, which kind of like chicken coop, how many chickens they're going to be getting, things like that.
	Do you ever milk cows or goats or anything?
	No, I take care of baby chicks, though.
	I see.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	What about you?
	Hi.
	I'm Stacy.
	I'm from Riverside County.
	I'm 47, and I work in the aerospace industry.
	What's your job title?
	That's a good question.
	Well, I'm quality assurance.
	I'm in training and development.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm Liz.
	I'm 25 and I own a car wrapping business.
	All right.
	You want to shout it out in case somebody wants the car wrapped?
	I'm still going to be a horrible business owner.
	It's called Causemotive, and we're located in Ventura County.
	However, we extend all the way to LA County as well.
	All right.
	If you guys need your car wrapped, go to her.
	I'm Sarah.
	I'm 28, and I'm a digital creator for beauty brands.
	So, like skincare and some other beauty brands, and then some other like freelance stuff.
	All right, cool.
	I'm Madison.
	I'm 19 years old.
	I'm a full-time student, and I work for the whatever podcast.
	I'm Ava.
	I'm 24.
	I'm from Santa Barbara.
	I bartend, and I also work for the Whatever podcast.
	All right, welcome, everybody.
	Welcome, everybody.
	So, we're gonna go around the table once more.
	What is everybody's current relationship status?
	So, are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule, sex, culturum, whatever it may be?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	What's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Starting with you, go ahead.
	I'm dating right now, dating somebody, and longest relationship year and a half.
	How long have you been dating this new guy?
	A little over two months.
	Two months.
	Are you guys boyfriend, girlfriend, or?
	Not yet, no.
	So, talking stage?
	Yeah, talking.
	Are you guys exclusive?
	You guys have had that conversation?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And I'm married, and this is my longest relationship.
	How long?
	Six years?
	All right, cool.
	I told you guys last time I am running a sex cult currently.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	I'm single.
	I've been single.
	My longest relationship was seven years and it was seven years ago.
	Wait, your longest relationship was seven years and it was seven years ago.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And you're 27, right?
	Yes.
	So it ended when you were 20.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So you dated from 13 to 17?
	Yeah.
	No, 13 to 20.
	Yeah, yeah.
	13 to 20, I meant to say.
	And you've had no long-term relationships since you were 20.
	Correct.
	What's the longest period of time you've dated somebody since then?
	Just like a date here or there.
	Nothing that turned into anything more.
	A month even?
	No.
	Two weeks?
	No.
	A fortnight?
	No.
	Two weeks?
	Just first dates?
	Just first dates.
	Hookups?
	One-night stands?
	No.
	You've been celibate for seven years?
	No.
	We talked about this before, but I was celibate for four years.
	Okay.
	Just for the remainder of the show, though, I don't think it's worth for any returning guests on the panel, I don't think it's worth mentioning.
	I talked about it on the last show.
	Just say, just if you repeat it, there's new viewers, new panelists, they haven't heard it.
	So you've been celibate for four years?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	For religious reasons or just, are you religious?
	I'm.
	I'm Catholic.
	Okay.
	But it's more because I want to find a long-term relationship before I have sex with anyone.
	But you go on dates then, right?
	Yeah.
	How often do you go on dates?
	I've been going on dates more often now.
	You know, if I go out and I meet someone, I've also been turned down a lot, though.
	So I try to go on a date with someone, I'll ask someone out and they say no.
	But I'm trying.
	Oh, so you've asked somebody out and you've been rejected?
	Yes.
	More than once.
	More than once?
	What's your pickup line?
	What's your go-to?
	I just walk up to them and tell them that I think they're attractive and that if they would like to have a drink together or go out sometime.
	I see, I see.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And do you think a component of this, do you think you're too picky?
	No.
	Like, I ask men out often.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We'll get into that.
	What about you?
	I am married for 21 and a half years.
	And this is my longest relationship.
	All right.
	And so you guys met like 21, 22?
	I was 24 years old.
	24, okay.
	Yeah.
	Got it.
	Together 21, correct?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Well, no.
	Married 21 and a half.
	So we've been, we were together for 22, 21.
	I see.
	Okay.
	So you got married like one to two years into the relationship?
	We met February, got married, or I'm sorry, we got engaged in July and married that next February.
	Mm-hmm.
	So pretty quick.
	Newly single.
	Oh, really?
	Okay.
	All right.
	You were just on the show, I think, two or three weeks ago, right?
	I know, isn't that crazy?
	And so, okay.
	Jumpstart the memory here.
	Newly single, how long have you been single?
	Yesterday?
	No, we broke up like so.
	I said on the last one that I went to Japan to go see him.
	Military guy, right?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And then I broke up with him the day I came back.
	Did it not go well in no, no, it was great.
	You were on the show like three weeks ago and then you went to Japan?
	And then I went to Japan.
	I came back a week and a half later, but that's a little harsh.
	It was a mutual understanding.
	It was a mutual understanding.
	So things did not go well in no, they were great.
	Like, there was nothing wrong with the relationship at all.
	It was just the fact that he's in Japan and I'm out here and the distance just wasn't working for us.
	So we were like, you know what?
	Maybe, you know, wherever God leads our past and the future, it is what it is.
	But right now, it's like, your work needs to come first.
	His work?
	Yeah.
	He's in the military, right?
	Yeah.
	What branch?
	Navy.
	Navy, okay.
	And so you, when was this, a week ago?
	No, this was like almost three weeks ago.
	That you broke up with him?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	How long is he stationed out there?
	Till December, but then he gets restationed in Florida.
	So it's going to be long distance no matter what.
	Because my business is out here.
	Wait, you said it was kind of mutual, but who initiated this conversation?
	Sounded like it was you.
	I initiated the conversation because I felt like something was going on on his end.
	I was fine with the distance.
	It was a little rough on him, though.
	So for his sake, I was like, I think that for you, it would be best if we just like stayed platonic.
	And he agreed.
	Did he not trust you?
	Oh, no, no, no, we did.
	There was no like trust issue or anything like that.
	It was just not in God's timing.
	Did you meet him online or you knew him from a time?
	No, I was friends with him for a while beforehand.
	And then he left on deployment a few months ago.
	And we were never in a relationship while he was out here.
	So I think because we started dating while he was gone, kind of like put the wedge in already because we weren't boyfriend and girlfriend ever in person.
	So it was just like.
	That's really hard because 11 months, a whole year of my marriage, my husband was deployed in Cuba for an entire year of my marriage.
	So that puts a lot of things into perspective.
	Guantanamo.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Guantanamo.
	Yeah.
	That's good times.
	He couldn't go off base or anything, but yeah.
	Wait, so, and how long were you guys dating for?
	Not long.
	Like, barely two months.
	Two months?
	It was easy peasy.
	Longest relationship?
	Four years.
	Four years.
	Yeah.
	So you were fine with the distance.
	When you went to go and visit him, was there conversations about this is difficult or?
	It was just really hard for him to focus on work and the relationship since we could barely talk anyways, since it's like day over there and then night over here, night over here, day over there.
	So it's just completely opposite time zones.
	And you said you guys were together for two months.
	Yeah.
	How long of the two months was he?
	The whole two months.
	We were never like physically dating when we were here together.
	We started dating while he was already deployed.
	Oh, so you guys were like kind of friend, you were friends, and then you guys were communicating while he was there.
	And then we were like, well, should we just date?
	And then I think we just were like, yeah, let's do it and kind of rushed into it without thinking long term.
	And then when I came out, when I went out there, it's kind of like all hit us.
	Wait, okay, hold on.
	More details are being revealed here.
	So, and you guys had never had anything romantic previously?
	No, we did.
	Oh, you guys had dated before.
	Yo, Robert Tanner, thank you for the gift of 20 memberships, man.
	Good to see you in the chat.
	Thank you so much, man.
	You guys had dated before.
	Wait, is this the guy you were previously in a relationship with?
	No.
	You know the guy who, like, the first time you were on the show, you were dating him?
	Oh, yeah, no, that was a different guy.
	That was a different guy.
	Okay, so you had dated this guy before.
	This guy, we weren't dating.
	We just liked each other, never pursued it.
	And then when you left, it was like, wait, I actually have feelings for you.
	Let's try to pursue it.
	And then it just didn't work out.
	Wait, so you did date before?
	No.
	And you got, like, was it casual, like?
	We were only friends.
	We never expressed anything.
	No fling?
	No.
	No fling.
	No, we were just so.
	We'll hook up.
	No.
	No hookup.
	I don't do that.
	No hookup in Japan?
	I don't do.
	Oh, well, when, yeah, no.
	That's fine.
	But yeah, so it just didn't work out.
	That's okay.
	Okay.
	Do you want to be with him in the future?
	Like, do you think that's possible?
	If it's in God's timing, I guess.
	I mean, I haven't really given it a thought.
	What if it's in Satan's timing?
	Well, then I would say that it's not meant to be.
	Would you move to Japan if he was like fully stationed out there?
	And you want to be in the business.
	Her business is here.
	She's got her business.
	I do.
	I do have my business here, and I love working and everything like that.
	She could have a Japanese car wrapping business.
	It's true.
	Every time.
	You're Vietnamese, right?
	Vietnamese, half Vietnamese, yeah.
	Have you been to Vietnam?
	No, it was like a two-hour flight, and I was this close to like from Japan.
	Whatever fancy $69, but the sex is lame.
	Was it?
	No, it's okay.
	It wasn't, but hee hee.
	All right.
	Thank you, whatever, fan.
	I had a phone.
	I had a question on this.
	Okay, he's.
	Oh, who did you pay to go out there or did he pay?
	No, he paid for everything.
	He paid for everything.
	Yeah, the two months that we were together, like, it was great.
	He did everything right.
	We both were very invested.
	Again, it was just like the distance.
	We were like, you know what?
	It'd probably be best to just kind of stay as friends.
	How often would you guys talk?
	We would talk every day, but it would be for like a five, ten-minute conversation.
	Five ten minutes of time.
	Yeah, we wouldn't get like on the phone.
	Yeah, on the phone.
	Phone.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	We didn't invest like that much time being in seriously.
	No, that's rather like it was.
	Yeah, it would be different if we were together for like a long period of time.
	Two years.
	Two months.
	Like it was like, eh, like, all right, it just didn't work out.
	Yeah.
	TTS is echoing.
	TTS is echoing.
	Huh.
	I'll have to look at that.
	So he flew you out.
	You guys talked almost every day on the phone?
	Yep.
	I don't know.
	Who here has done long distance?
	Show of hands, any long distance people?
	See, I can't talk every day.
	Even if she lives in my, even if she lives five minutes away, I need like 72 hours.
	Just go leave me alone.
	And I didn't talk about that.
	I'm leaving me alone for 72 hours.
	No, I'm kidding.
	Well, how much can happen?
	Divorce survival.
	Nick $69.
	Audio mixer, quizzes.
	Chat, no, right there.
	You hold it.
	You had a quick dating says.
	You till death to us part.
	What does that actually mean?
	Chat, please.
	Please enlighten your future.
	Chat, did that fix it?
	Chat, did that fix it?
	And then, Nick, could you let me just check if it's muted in the other fixed?
	Is the chat saying it was fixed?
	That's not sure why that was happening, but okay.
	So, chat, was there was an echo before, but now it's good.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Was that played with?
	I might have played with it, or were you guys playing with that?
	Hmm, that's strange.
	Maybe it's just.
	Sorry, guys, our OBS must have just OBS, you know.
	Anyways, okay, so are you back on the dating apps?
	Christian Mingle, what's up?
	No, Christian Mingle?
	Nothing.
	I'm not into the whole dating app thing.
	It's just, I live my life irrespectively.
	Ryan Eric donated $69.
	Had a GF of 2.5 years, was living in my house.
	Tried going to a friend's in Bikini without me.
	Got in fight.
	Your debates helped me stop her BS.
	Kicked her out, she tried taking my stuff.
	Ty Andrew breaks them.
	Yo, Ryan, Ryan Eric, glad the podcast was of assistance.
	Wow, okay, the bikini.
	I'm sure we don't know all the details there, but was she gonna go in a pool?
	Yeah, it makes sense if she was gonna go swimming or something.
	Yeah, I'm not sure why going in a bikini.
	We need to respond to the other TTS.
	Sorry, guys.
	We're fixing the audio.
	I think that's valid.
	If you don't, if you're dating a guy and if you're not going to pool parties in a burkini, you get dumped.
	Wait, what?
	What?
	Any ladies here have a burkini?
	What's a burkini?
	Nick, can you Google Burkini for me?
	I was going to ask what's a burka burkini.
	It's a very modest type of bikini.
	Very modest.
	Maybe you saw it at the Olympics.
	Some of the women will wear burkinis.
	I think a one-by's?
	Me personally.
	I think it's a bit too revealing.
	I think we need to go full hazmat suit.
	That's really writing then.
	Was that a joke or?
	No, like...
	None of us found that.
	This is actually one of the first gifts I get because we, you know, I'm a nice guy.
	We live in Southern California.
	You know, the girl's going to want to go to the pool or to the beach.
	I will buy a girl.
	Sometimes I'll try to go 50-50 on it.
	I will buy her a burkini, excuse me, and insist that she wear it even when I'm not around.
	And when I'm around.
	And when you're around.
	Yeah.
	That's not real.
	Do you actually do that?
	Yeah, you want to see my Amazon order history?
	No, I've got to do it.
	The amount of burkinis I've bought.
	So if you am single-handedly actually.
	If you don't go in on it, then she doesn't have to wear it.
	What's that?
	If you don't go in on it, I mean, if you don't buy on it, she doesn't.
	Huh?
	What are you talking about?
	Go in on it.
	What does this go in on it?
	I don't do that.
	First off, I don't do that.
	Half.
	I don't do that.
	If you don't pay half, then she doesn't have to.
	Oh.
	Then she doesn't have to wear that.
	She can wear whatever she wants.
	If she's a feminist, I pay half.
	But if she's trad, then I'll pay the whole thing.
	It's a very nice gesture.
	Yes.
	The feminist liberal women tend to love the burkini.
	That's more modest than like regular clothes.
	The burkini?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, definitely.
	Covers more than what she'd probably wear out in the sun.
	Yeah, but it like accentuates, it accentuates like the shape of her body.
	So yeah, it does.
	Kind of.
	Does it?
	It's kind of attractive.
	It's tight.
	I thought I saw one with like a skirt over, and I'm like, I feel like that's more modest than you know.
	Yeah.
	She can just walk anywhere in her burkini.
	Protect her from the sun.
	Yeah, zero sun damage.
	Me neither.
	It's the first time I'm hearing of that.
	Oh, wait, let's get, we'll go back to the TTS that came through.
	Relationship status.
	I'm single.
	Single?
	Okay.
	Now.
	Longest relationship, I'd say about 2.5 to 3 years over the course of five years.
	Oh, so it's on and on?
	On and on.
	Yeah.
	You mean a relationship?
	On and off, excuse me.
	I'm in an on and on relationship, aka a relationship.
	On and on.
	Group one motorsports donated $69.
	Evening, Brixam.
	Been busy.
	Cheers.
	Can't always make the show, but you and Andrew have been doing excellent.
	Thank you, man.
	Thank you, bro.
	Very cool.
	You have an all-brunette episode, but now the blondes will protest you.
	Yeah, there's a lack of diversity on this.
	You know, the hair color is not very diverse, but I think we've got to talk about.
	Oh, are you?
	Yeah, I'm blonde, but I know.
	You are culturally appropriating.
	I don't know if it's Robert Tanner.
	Thank you for the gift of 20.
	You are appropriating.
	I'm offended because I'm dark hair natural.
	Well, I'm very sorry.
	Who of the natural?
	Hold on, we can't allow this.
	Who here who has natural dark hair thinks that this is an abomination?
	Who here is offended?
	She is appropriating our.
	I'm not sure if it's culture or ethnicity.
	I feel like I'm curious.
	You are LARPing as a brunette.
	I am.
	I feel like I love you.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	Well, you should first find out who here has colored hair currently.
	And then you can say that.
	I mean, y'all probably seem like you're natural.
	I mean, you might have highlights or low coloring.
	I think yours is colored.
	Mine's color.
	I'm natural.
	But it's like.
	I'm naturally your color.
	Yeah.
	You have a shadow.
	It's dark.
	Yeah.
	It's still dark.
	You know.
	Yeah.
	Like, she's.
	Are you sure you're not blonde?
	Hold on.
	I'm really blonde.
	It looks more ginger.
	I just did my roots and it came out the wrong color, but if you look down here, Ryan Merrick donated $69.
	No.
	She insisted going to pool party at Stranger's House Without Me.
	After dumping, hacked her Google and found messages of her cheating with another guy.
	Okay.
	She hated the show and yelled TV at Andrew Lol.
	Wait, so she was living with you.
	So was she technically?
	I mean, she technically might have had renters' rights or whatever.
	But did she, you kicked her out?
	She just moved out willingly?
	We'll get into that.
	I'll ask the panel.
	I won't get around the table from everybody, but so the bikini and then divorce guy.
	I will come back to your TTS.
	The bikini dump thing.
	What were we talking about?
	I forgot.
	Me being blonde.
	She's natural blonde.
	Oh, the diversity of the panel.
	Let's go around the table.
	What are your pronouns?
	And then also, what's your ethnicity?
	I think we got a pretty diverse panel here.
	Starting with you, go ahead.
	My pronouns are she, her, and I'm half Korean, half white.
	Sons of Liberty donated $69.
	If forced to choose, would you rather have democracy or two abortions?
	I saw that in Trump 2024.
	Okay, hold on.
	I'll add it to the list.
	I just want to get through relationship status really quick.
	Just ethnicity.
	Half Korean, half white.
	Washing.
	Russian, Mexican.
	Swedish and Irish.
	White.
	Vietnamese and white.
	I thought you were part Italian.
	I'm part of everything, but if I started naming it, it would just.
	What about you?
	Cuban, Argentinian.
	Okay.
	Do you speak Spanish?
	I'm 100% Monk.
	Um...
	What are you?
	I just took an ancestry test, so I already forgot most of it, but mostly Italian, German, Irish, French.
	All right.
	Oh.
	Killer of cereal donated $69.
	What ethnicity have you dated that you wouldn't have to do it?
	I'll get to it.
	We'll get to it.
	I might have to bump.
	How long have we been gone?
	Is it 30?
	Okay, I'm going to bump.
	Okay, I'll leave it at 69 for a bit long for three more minutes.
	So you're saying you longest relationship 2.5 years.
	You're currently single.
	When was your last relationship?
	I ended it about a month and a half ago.
	Is that the 2.5-year one?
	No.
	How long was the last one?
	Only four and a half months.
	Okay.
	But you said the 2.5-year one, it was on again, off again?
	Yes.
	How many times was it on and off?
	So I had children with this person, so I have two sons.
	Okay.
	So we kind of like just try to make things work.
	Didn't work.
	We got engaged.
	It didn't work.
	So I would say in total we dated about two and a half years, but it was just not working.
	How many times was it on again, off again?
	I would say three.
	Three times we tried.
	Who brought it?
	Killer of cereal donated $69.
	W for three minutes.
	Also, while I have it, most embarrassing detour kernel knowledge stories, please.
	Thank you, Kill.
	Appreciate it.
	We'll get to all of those.
	Who would end it?
	It would just kind of dissolve, to be honest.
	Like there was no understanding that we were done so much as like I feel like he would either like leave or I would just leave.
	And then who would like try to reach back out to make it to get back together?
	I reached back out.
	Well, one time that I specifically remember I reached back out.
	That was after we had our first son to try to make it work.
	But it was always mutual.
	So it was like, yeah, it was pretty mutual.
	Like there was an understanding that we wanted to make it work, but it just continuously did not work.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	By the way, guys, TTS is now boosted to 200, read 100.
	And yeah.
	You said you have two kids?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Maddie, what about you?
	I'm currently in a relationship.
	My current one is the longest.
	It's been almost two years.
	All right.
	I'm also currently in a relationship.
	It's my longest, and it's five years.
	All right, cool.
	Okay, so let's get back into some of the notes here.
	And I'll read a couple of the chats.
	So, TTS, just a reminder, guys, TTS was 69, but we've boosted it to 200.
	The read is 100.
	You can hide that.
	Oh, okay.
	Grid one motorsports donated $69.
	This panel is putting me to sleep.
	Just to start some CEAE yet, I have to ask: how important is a man's political ideals to the ladies?
	I hear it is difficult to find a real man on the left.
	We'll get to it.
	There's a backlog now.
	So we'll get to it.
	Thank you, Grid 1.
	Reminder, guys, that's the cutoff.
	TTS is now 200 and up, excuse me.
	All right, so let me read this one.
	Bravo Jenga.
	Actually, Maddie, can you read it?
	Please do a video reaction someday.
	It's called Scariest Hell Testimony Ever, and it has a green background.
	There's even studies on NDs because there's so many.
	Also, touching the afterlife is a YouTube channel full of hell testimonies.
	I love your videos.
	This thing sucks.
	Dude, this thing is fucking dog.
	Okay.
	I don't know why it's not working.
	All right, fuck that thing.
	I'll have to.
	I don't know why it's not working.
	Sorry, guys.
	I got this thing that's, I forgot the specific name of the type of camera.
	It's like P P E Z. Anybody in the chat know what I'm talking about?
	PZ camera, what are they called?
	But obviously, I have not figured out how to work it.
	So, PTZ.
	PTZ, excuse me, PTZ camera.
	But it's obviously, hold on.
	What the f- and it's moving on its own.
	It tracks movement.
	What the mark.
	Hold on, let me.
	And the fucking exposure, it doesn't have what the fuck, dude.
	Get the fuck out of here.
	Okay.
	Piece of shit.
	Up your nose.
	Just my nose.
	I'm going to swap back to the other one.
	Yo, Bravo, Django.
	Thank you for the super chat, man.
	I'll look into that.
	Scariest Helta has a green background.
	Okay.
	I'll take a look at it, man.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate the super chat.
	All right, guys.
	So we have a backlog of the chat, so we'll just get through all of those in the order they came through.
	So, divorce survivor says, question for the ladies on the panel.
	When a woman stands, here, I'll just pull it up.
	You can hide that.
	Hide that, please.
	At the altar on her wedding day and says, till death do us part, what does that actually mean?
	Please enline your future husbands.
	Can you scoot into the table a little bit?
	What does that mean?
	Anybody?
	Any takers on this?
	I'm a little confused as to why that is a question.
	It's exactly what it means: till death do you part.
	When you get into marriage, you're marrying to be with this person forever.
	You're making a commitment.
	Now, obviously, beliefs and religion come into play.
	When I married my husband, it was before God.
	There's only certain reasons that if our marriage is not going to last, that it was going to be those reasons.
	But other than that, it's through thick and thin.
	Or if one of us passes first.
	I think the point perhaps he's trying to make is: I think it's a hypothetical?
	Wait, no.
	What's a question that is not intended to be answered?
	Rhetorical.
	Rhetorical.
	Thank you, Ava.
	You're welcome.
	Appreciate it.
	I believe it's a rhetorical question.
	And he's trying to point out that a lot of people, they get married.
	They'll say, till death do us part.
	One year, two years, three years later.
	No fault divorce.
	Later.
	And I think he's directing it at the women because divorce is initiated typically from women.
	80% of the divorce.
	Well, it's definitely a lack of commitment.
	Yeah.
	It's not working out.
	We don't get along.
	And I'm going to go find someone better who gets along better with me.
	Sure.
	And then while I go get the camera set up, I want you guys to discuss this one.
	She insisted going to a pool party at Stranger's House without me.
	After dumping, you know, they he dumped her.
	So pool party, he didn't want her to go.
	She insisted on going, wore a bikini, went to the pool party.
	Boyfriend didn't want it.
	They were living together.
	Do you think, one, is it wrong that he didn't want her to go, didn't want her dressed this way?
	And then two, break up, justified, unjustified, discuss.
	So I think it depends.
	Like, did he know who's going to be at this party?
	Like, if it was just going to be girlfriends, okay, I don't think he'd have an issue with that.
	But if he knew there was going to be girls, guys, there's going to be alcohol involved.
	There's going to be other things involved, then maybe that's when he said, hey, no, this is where I draw the boundary.
	Well, but it comes down to trust.
	Well, he also said he found out that she cheated on him, so she sounds like a whore.
	I wonder what the tip of the iceberg was.
	Was it her not listening to you?
	Her actually going to the party, wearing the bikini?
	What was it?
	Usually that's a good point.
	When he found out she was checking out the city, probably the cheating afterwards.
	But from his first message that he sent in, it was like she wore a bikini.
	Right.
	The issue was even the, it's whatever was going on underlying it.
	That's like symptomatic.
	He found out he went to her stuff.
	Yeah, her Google searches and stuff or whatever.
	And I mean, honestly, she doesn't need his permission to go, especially if there is trust there in a relationship.
	She doesn't have to get his permission.
	So I think it was more that she was like insisting that he didn't go with her.
	Yeah, that's what I think is messed up.
	I think she told him not to go with him.
	She was like, oh, no, I don't want you to come.
	That's shady.
	I think if he was going to go with her and he's comfortable with her wearing the bikini and everything, that would have been all fine.
	But it seems like there was more behind why he was already suspicious of her going without him, wearing the bikini, and then his worries came true when he found out that she was actually cheating on him.
	She had to have given him reasons to feel shaky about the trust in the relationship before the whole party thing happened.
	Quite honestly, that was just really stupid on her part to say, I don't want you to go and then keep pushing it, pushing it and go.
	It's like, how is that going to turn out good in any way?
	I feel like if you're letting somebody live in your home for two and a half years and you don't trust them to wear a bikini, then that's kind of on you.
	Why are you allowing that woman to like basically mooch off you and all your money and like your home?
	Like, as much, as fucked up as it is that she did that, he also chose that woman.
	Well, when she moved into East State, when she moved in, it was they were in a relationship or was it?
	There's so much we don't know.
	Was there behavior that she was showing before she actually, before you found out she was cheating?
	Definitely.
	Or was that like the first time?
	Because if there was trust there, but yet he just didn't want her to go to the party.
	And well, now he looks controlling.
	Yeah.
	Because she should be able to go to a party with her friends.
	No big deal.
	Maybe in a one-piece, though.
	Well, I feel like if she's going to wear a one-piece, she's going to cheat on him.
	Wearing a one-piece isn't going to, like, it's not going to change.
	Yeah, that doesn't change anything.
	The trust of the bikini is on the woman.
	Imagine on what kind of suit she wears.
	That's her choice.
	It probably means like, are you dressing to impress other guys?
	Because that makes me feel uncomfortable.
	You know, that's like a more mature way, I feel like, of saying, oh, you're wearing a bikini.
	It's not about that.
	But if.
	That's a valid concern.
	Like, are you dressing for the attention of other men when you're living in my home?
	I feel like that's valid.
	But he's not going to answer that.
	Today I'm going to wear an outfit that is going to impress other men.
	So sorry.
	I mean, how do you?
	She's not going to.
	A woman who dresses nice doesn't necessarily mean she's doing it for other men.
	True.
	Can't really get that answer.
	Kind of seems like she might have been, though.
	I mean, a hot girl's going to look hot with it without a bikini.
	That's true.
	That's true.
	And she should wear a bikini.
	She wear a burkini and she'd be.
	Exactly, exactly.
	All right.
	Cool.
	I'm sure you guys had a riveting conversation while I was gone.
	All right.
	We have sons of liberty.
	If forced to choose, would you rather have democracy or access to abortions starting with Pearl?
	Go ahead.
	I am pro-choice, but if I had to choose between those two things, I mean, is the other option like, what, an oligarchy or like a queen?
	Totalitarian, totalitarian, authoritarian.
	Yeah.
	But it could be left authoritarian, so basically everything you want, you get.
	No, I feel like democracy is good.
	I feel like the push and pull between the left and the right is good.
	Extremist left and extremist right, I think, are not.
	I think they're both unhealthy and toxic.
	So, wait, question.
	Let's say that all the political beliefs you hold, whether some are center, left, right, whatever, you could have all those things, but it wouldn't be a democracy.
	Although, technically, I guess we're not a democracy, we're a republic.
	What is it, the republic?
	Representative.
	Wait, what is it?
	Something republic.
	Chat, help me out.
	What is it, chat?
	Help me, bro.
	What is it?
	Constant Constitutional Republic.
	That's right.
	Democrat?
	Representative Republic?
	Damn, there's like three different answers in the chat.
	Banana Republic.
	That's Latin America.
	So would you take it?
	I wouldn't because I mean, as much as I think that I am like right or whatever, I'm allowed to have my own opinion, but I don't, my opinions change.
	Like, I evolve as a human.
	I learn more things from both sides or whatever.
	And I'm like, oh.
	So I think having like, I think having different voices allows us to see the truth, which is typically in the middle.
	So, no, I wouldn't be like, I don't think that my opinion is better than all of the other opinions that exist.
	So definitely, I'm pro-choice, and I would still pick democracy.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Your answer to the question?
	I'm pro-life and Eileen Wright.
	So for what would I rather have?
	I guess democracy, I suppose.
	Democracy, please.
	Democracy, I'm pro-life.
	Pro-life.
	Democracy, I'm pro-life.
	Democracy, I'm pro-life.
	Democracy, but isn't that just like a given for the abortion part?
	Like, if we live in a democracy, we'd probably have access to abortion.
	That's what I was going to say.
	I didn't really understand the question.
	I think I was trying to say.
	Like, I don't know.
	But, like, I still agree with what I said.
	With certainty, you can secure the access to abortions, but the government structure would be like authoritarian, totalitarian.
	Democracy.
	Democracy.
	Okay.
	Word.
	All right, we have Killer of Cereal.
	What would you choose?
	What would I choose?
	Democracy.
	What ethnicity have you dated that you're not.
	This one's a little spicy.
	It's getting dangerously.
	A little spicy.
	Let me think if that's...
	If anybody wants to answer it, you can.
	Otherwise.
	There's no kind way or like safe way to answer this, to be honest, because then people are going to want to know why.
	And then those people are being outed.
	I just, yeah.
	Would you kill of cereal?
	I'm going to take an audible here and change your question.
	Would you date an alien?
	You're legit.
	That could be an ethnicity.
	Would you date an alien, like a hot alien?
	Yeah.
	Okay, what about you?
	Oh, yeah.
	No shame.
	What about you?
	No.
	No?
	Are they an illegal alien?
	Ooh.
	Normal alien.
	Technically.
	Extra from space.
	Extraterrestrial.
	Okay.
	Alien, not illegal alien.
	I would have to get to know them.
	What are your thoughts?
	What about you?
	No.
	Even the hot alien.
	No.
	No.
	How are you supposed to mate with them?
	And if they could mate, what would that child come out to look like?
	But you already got a little bit of a chance.
	It's like a mangle.
	You have like six legs.
	What if it's just a stepdad alien?
	I mean, I want to adopt, but I want more children in my own.
	There's no way.
	There's no way.
	I'm not dating an alien.
	Maybe the aliens could potentially reproduce with them.
	Hell yeah.
	I mean, you might end up dating one and not know what they're one.
	True.
	Wait, do you think aliens are real?
	Probably.
	Do any of you?
	Yeah, definitely.
	I don't think we've had contact, but I think they're out there somewhere.
	I agree.
	Yeah.
	There's like billions and billions of star systems and galaxies and planets.
	You don't know.
	Ryan, we agree on something.
	That's crazy.
	That's crazy.
	That's insane.
	Was that?
	You said you don't think that we've had contact, though?
	I don't think we've had contact, but I think they're out there.
	I don't know if we'll ever seen and ocean that we haven't seen.
	Wait, there's so much we don't know.
	Fermi paradox, is that what it's called?
	Some people think that they're like in the ocean.
	Nick, can you Google Fermi Paradox?
	We don't need a Google Advance.
	This is a dating podcast.
	Never mind.
	Extraterrestrial life.
	How many galaxies chat?
	Chat Killer of Cereal donated $200.
	America.
	Fuck yeah.
	Democracy is the motherfucking way.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Would you date an alien if it had a Phase 5 planet buster plasma rifle next to its bed when it'd been due home from Gorlock 9?
	Gorlock 9.
	I like that.
	Well done.
	Oh, Killer of Cereal.
	I need to get you set up with like a custom DTS thing like Grid and our boy Paladins.
	Thank you, man.
	I'll just ask.
	So I'm going to also do Naudal and I'll just bring it back to Earth on that one and we'll do the firearm question.
	But going around the table, Madison, date an alien?
	No.
	Okay, hold on.
	Actually, I think I maybe would.
	Let's say.
	If he could do everything a human could do and it looked like a human, I probably wouldn't notice.
	You bad feelings?
	An avatar.
	No.
	No?
	Like, does that change?
	If it was an avatar, would y'all fuck an avatar?
	If he's like not blue, maybe.
	He's blue.
	There's people that are actually like your hair or whatever to fuck.
	Interested in that.
	Like, not penises and vagina.
	That can be.
	Do they not?
	I don't think they have genitals.
	The avatars.
	They make their like they collect their little hairs on their tail.
	Collect the hair.
	Or no, it's the tail.
	Sorry, not the hair.
	The tails.
	No, no, no, the tail does have like little fibers that they can join.
	Genital fibers.
	You know so much.
	That's right.
	Avatar.
	You've researched this.
	No, I watch what she does in her free time.
	Wait, so Madison, you're dating Frankie.
	If you found out Frankie was an alien, would you dump him?
	No.
	That's why I said yes to an alien.
	If your boyfriend, you found out your boyfriend was an alien, would you dump him?
	No.
	Would you date an alien?
	If he was an alien.
	If you were single?
	Theoretically, yes.
	Theoretically.
	In theory.
	What about in practice?
	Sure.
	Okay.
	What if it's like a lizard person?
	No.
	Okay.
	Market search.
	Okay.
	Lizard's got one.
	Robert Tanner, government, Brian Government clarification for the panel.
	Purple democracy existed in Athens, Greece.
	The United States is a federal constitution republic.
	The idea that we exist as democracy fails to understand our electoral college system.
	Also, great talks tonight.
	Yo, Tanner, thank you very much for the super chat, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Good to see you in the chat.
	Thank you for the clarification there.
	Appreciate it.
	So we were talking about aliens.
	Was there something else on the aliens thing?
	Would I what?
	Would you date an alien?
	I think you would, actually.
	Or an avatar?
	I think men did men would be more likely to date.
	Yeah, I'd have carnal knowledge.
	Honestly, there'd be a lot more alien women than men.
	It's so weird.
	I can see that.
	I can see men doing that.
	Once, honestly, I think women are going to, if aliens come and they start dating us and shit, who do you think is going to fare worse, men or women?
	I feel like men are going to be more adaptable to like fucking alien bitches.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Yeah.
	For sure.
	Yeah.
	Like, yeah.
	Men are no.
	They're like, you know what?
	I tried with humans.
	Didn't work.
	Yeah.
	Let's try aliens.
	Although I feel like the alien women might be like kind of dom, like domi mommies.
	Because they're like, we're superior to you and shit.
	So like they're going to be like a little dominant.
	Or maybe not at the beginning though when they're trying to learn our way.
	But like with all the guy likes with all the plastics and shit in the water, like I feel like a bunch of men are going to be, like in 100 years, all the men are going to be like soy, super soy.
	But we're seeing it happen with AI.
	So I'm pretty sure like all the guys are going to welcome like the domi mommy alien pussy.
	They would love it.
	I think it's coming.
	There's already a lot of movies.
	Some men would just take it.
	Take?
	I mean like they're going to essay the aliens.
	The aliens aren't going to come and they're going to take it.
	But be like, well, you know, like, well, they'll accept it.
	Like, yeah, I'll date an alien.
	Like, you know, a little bit easier than women would.
	Yeah, it's crazy out there.
	They should do an alien dating app.
	They should.
	I don't know what they're going to call that shit, though.
	Alien dating app?
	ADA.
	Alien dating AD.
	I don't know.
	Anyways, let's see the other chats here.
	Oh, really quick.
	Let's see.
	We had Kilo Cereal, most embarrassing date or, oops, did not pull up.
	Most embarrassing date or carnal knowledge.
	Story.
	Going around the table, starting with Pearl.
	Most embarrassing.
	I don't have anything exciting for this answer, to be honest.
	I've had mostly regular dates.
	Okay.
	It's true.
	What you got?
	I think I told this story on one of the podcasts.
	It's really not too extensive or that interesting, but I dated a guy that I knew from like middle school.
	And he took me out on a date and his car like broke down.
	And he was like super stoned.
	And he was like really smelly, like kid BO.
	I don't know if I told the story or not, but it was horrible.
	And I was just really trying to like rush the date and like get home.
	And it was bad.
	Okay.
	I was on a date with a guy and he pooped in his pants.
	It's been a couple years.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	That's why he's giving me me.
	That's why he's the goat.
	The goat.
	What a legend.
	He said that he went to a sushi restaurant that was like on the cheaper side.
	And he told me that it ended up being food poisoning and he just couldn't hold it.
	So he had to excuse himself and go home and had to tell me that he pooped his pants.
	Where were you guys?
	We were at a restaurant for dinner.
	He pooped his pants on the way?
	No, we were sitting there and it all of a sudden hit him.
	And he just pooped his pants.
	Like you're in his pants.
	No, I had no idea.
	He had to tell me that's why he had to leave.
	He didn't smell it.
	I would have just not told the chick.
	I mean, if she didn't know, just not tell her.
	I don't know.
	I guess I'm going to go.
	Sit through the date?
	No, I would have left.
	Sit through the date.
	I would have left, but like he could have just.
	He could have just.
	Oh, my stomach hurts.
	You can't like tell a girl you did.
	Was there a second date?
	No.
	Because of the poop?
	He could have just gone to the restroom and threw his underwear away.
	That's true.
	No, he actually also had a really bad personality, so that's why.
	Sorry.
	He's like, I was going to forgive the pooping his pants, but the personality wasn't good.
	That, yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I was kind of catfished.
	I met a guy on a dating app, and what he was in person was not what his picture looked like.
	Was he an alien?
	No.
	Well, you know, he could have been, but I didn't give him the time of day.
	So, how did his picture look, and how did he look?
	So, I mean, nationality-wise, it was, but in person, his shirt was like stained.
	He was heavy.
	He didn't look like he had bathed.
	He had like crumbs on his shirt.
	Just disgusting.
	And we drove separately to the mall, and then he wanted me to pull out cash.
	Like, we were going to pay separate, even though he asked me out.
	And I found every excuse to just quit it.
	I didn't even have it.
	I'm like, I gotta go.
	Okay.
	Liz?
	I don't have one on my experience, so they're good.
	To be honest, I don't.
	I can't.
	I've been thinking I can't.
	Avo?
	I've already given a few to this question.
	I'll just, nothing new is coming to mind.
	I'll just repeat that I was hooking up with this chick, and she had, but I stopped the hookup because she had a tattoo.
	And this tattoo, the location of the tattoo and the tattoo itself, were objectionable.
	Tattoo was located above her pussy.
	And it said YOLO.
	There's few things that will deter a man from having sexual intercourse with a woman.
	A YOLO tattoo above the pussy is one of them.
	So did not have sex with her.
	Could have.
	Didn't.
	You know what I mean?
	Why the face?
	Do you have a YOLO tattoo above the pussy?
	Is that what's going on?
	No, but I wouldn't doubt you if I did.
	But you're shaking your head.
	You're shaking your head in disapproval.
	No, actually, I'm with you.
	I'm feeling the emotion with you.
	Like, hell.
	That's cruel.
	Yeah.
	But I guess it could be worse.
	Is there any tattoo a guy could have that you see and then you're like, ah, second thoughts.
	Maybe a swastika.
	Maybe like something like that would be a bit more like a picture.
	Maybe like something above his butt instead of like aim here or something.
	Yeah.
	Or like the picture of like a penis somewhere on their body.
	Like a tattoo of a penis like near their butt or something.
	Yeah.
	Aim here.
	All right, yeah.
	Anything?
	Anything?
	Or the teardrop.
	Teardrop?
	Oh my gosh.
	The cholo.
	Uh-uh.
	For me, it would probably be anything that's like demonic.
	So like if they had like 666 on them or something, it'd be like a snake tattoo.
	That's a no-no.
	It depends on what it looks like.
	It depends on what the snake looks like.
	It just depends on what it looks like.
	Do you have a snake tattoo?
	No.
	I have tattoos, just nothing demonic.
	Oh, let's do a tattoo check.
	Who's got tats that they want to show?
	What do we got?
	Pearl?
	Definitely not a snake seeding an apple.
	What you got?
	You got the sternum?
	No.
	I have a yin-yang.
	Oh, that's something.
	I have mushrooms.
	I have a meat.
	I have a heart with a me in it.
	Wait, you have a heart with a me?
	I have a heart and it says me inside of it.
	So the mushroom one and the heart with the me.
	Uh-huh.
	And a yin-yang.
	And I have some Latin text.
	Latin?
	Latin, yeah.
	From Augustine's Confessions.
	What's it?
	He's a theologian.
	Word?
	Yeah.
	It's beautiful.
	Those are my tats.
	Okay.
	The mushroom one's a little red flaggy, eh?
	Is it?
	What does it mean?
	Mushrooms are incredible.
	Have you guys seen Fantastic Fungi?
	They're like an incredible web of neurons.
	And they like, basically, the reason we can exist is because of mushrooms.
	You should watch Fantastic Fungi.
	Really informative, really beautiful.
	What?
	You're saying we exist because of mushrooms?
	Well, our world continues.
	It's a really integral part of our ecosystem because fungi are what like eat what's decaying.
	So if we didn't have fungi, our world would just be full of decaying shit.
	Is that a but isn't that like a psilocybin mushroom?
	Is this a psilocybin mushroom?
	Yeah, isn't that?
	No.
	Like, what is it?
	Fucking portobello?
	What you got?
	It's just a, it's cute.
	But it's like a psychedelic mushroom.
	No.
	Oh, you just have to.
	You have like just an edible non-psychedelic mushroom on you.
	Yeah.
	It has nothing to do with psychedelics.
	I mean, I like psychedelic mushrooms as well.
	Okay, there you go.
	But it's not, that's not just what it represents.
	It's everything.
	I love all mushrooms, including the psychedelic ones.
	Word.
	Word.
	When's the last time you did psychedelic mushrooms?
	Yeah.
	I don't know, a couple months ago.
	She's like, last minute.
	She's like, I'm on this right.
	She's like, I'm on her right now.
	I wish I was right now.
	You're all aliens.
	What you got, Jordan?
	What you got for us?
	I've got some Russian lettering, Bible scripture, walk by faith, not by sight.
	Okay.
	I've got some roses.
	Cool.
	I've got a cute little dainty dove behind my ear.
	Word.
	And I've got my back.
	Can you turn?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, all right.
	There you go.
	Goes down my spine.
	And then that's it.
	A couple little dainty fingers.
	That little angel, my industry.
	Sternum?
	Nope.
	No sternum?
	Okay.
	Nope.
	All right.
	What about you, Tats?
	No, YOLO.
	I have no tattoos and I'm never going to have any.
	What about you?
	What you got?
	The story has changed.
	I have a lot.
	Okay.
	I don't know where to begin.
	I have a little cis.
	My sister has one.
	It says big cis.
	I got this July 6th.
	That is, I can only imagine it's the actual lyrics to the song.
	I have the roses.
	I have for a memorial to all the animals that I've lost.
	And this is scripture stating that for all the people that I've lost in my life, that one day when we go be with Jesus, we won't have any more suffering.
	Okay.
	My calf, my full left calf is a Day of the Dead Girl.
	My right ankle, I have hearts around it.
	And my back, I have a gothic heart.
	And then the notorious tramp stamp.
	You have a tramp stamp.
	I do.
	But I got it when I was 30 years old and married.
	It doesn't say YOLO, though, right?
	No, it does not.
	I feel maybe the panel and the chat, those of you watching, is it the case that the sternum tattoo, this one, I think this is the new tramp stamp.
	It's the tramp stamp of.
	Anybody here have a tramp?
	I feel attacked.
	I feel attacked.
	I do think it is the tramp stamp of the mid-2010s until now.
	Tattoos?
	Yeah, I have my whole spine.
	Can we see it?
	Well, you can't really see because my shirt's covering on it.
	Oh, okay.
	That's fine.
	It's just like a half a Bible verse.
	And then I have my hip.
	It's a rose.
	And then just like a dainty one behind my ear and then one on my ankle.
	Hmm.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I have, I think I have like six, seven, or eight.
	I don't like any of them, but this has Euphoria.
	I have the word vanity, which I highly regret.
	I have flowers on my back.
	I have this, which I matched with Father My Children.
	I have Sternum.
	It's a cross.
	It's like, like, kind of looks like a star, but it's a cross.
	I can't remember if I have any more.
	Okay.
	The Sternham Tattoo is a cross.
	It is.
	Okay.
	And to be fair and to defend myself, I feel like because I don't have anything up here, it's not like as provocative.
	But I still regret it.
	I just don't want tattoos.
	I just want them all gone.
	I mean, to be fair, to be charitable, the sternum tattoo I take the most issue with is the like chandelier one that, like every, that's like the basic chandelier, I do agree you have.
	Your sternum tattoo is a little different, still a sternum tattoo, but it's not like the basic.
	Here's a fucking chandelier rose.
	I don't know what the fuck you're doing.
	That that's like the red flag for me.
	No offense Maddie, you got tattoos, Ava tattoos, any tattoos?
	No, all right, let's get through the rest of the chats and then we'll get into the pre-show notes.
	Guys, we got some good questions.
	Got some good questions coming up here.
	Let's see grid one, motorsports.
	This panel is putting you to sleep.
	How important is a man's political ideals to the ladies, starting with Jordan?
	How important are the political ideas to you for your man?
	Pretty important, at least that you're everything.
	Pardon your husband.
	What about him?
	You guys agree on everything politically?
	Pretty much yeah, we do, but he's not very like.
	He's not really as much into politics as I am.
	A lot of the politics he knows is because I've talked to him about it or told him about it.
	Okay um, it would only be important if he leans the same way.
	If he doesn't lean the same way I do.
	If he doesn't care about politics at all, then it.
	I don't think it would become an issue.
	So religious is more important than political to me, and my husband and I both are the same religion and because of that our political views are the same, so it is extremely important.
	Yeah, I'm gonna have to second with her on that one.
	Yeah, I echo the last two.
	It used to not be important to me, but now it is, I think, because the person I'm with I actually want to start a family with, so it is really important now.
	Okay, Killer OF Cereal donated $200.
	Would you date an alien America?
	I'll just change it to, would you date an alien?
	I'll just.
	Would you date a guy who owned a firearm like okay first, hold on, let me change it.
	You go to his house first time at this house and he has an AR-15 by his bedside.
	Red flag, green flag green green green, green.
	I'm fine with that green.
	Okay, I like this panel.
	All right, new date.
	You both hit it off.
	Chemistry, the works.
	He, she invites you back to their place.
	You walk through the door and see a bookcase.
	What book do you see that makes you turn and leave immediately, starting with you, go ahead.
	I don't know what's manifesto um yeah maybe something along those lines okay is he saying that their pronouns are he she what That was a joke, sorry.
	If he had Joe Biden's book, that's when I would leave.
	Okay, yeah.
	I agree with you.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it would have to be if they were going in a certain direction that I don't go in.
	There's like this book.
	I don't remember exactly what it's called, but it's basically like how to manipulate.
	And I had a friend whose ex had that book, and it was like the worst relationship she was like ever in.
	So I was like, oh.
	I'm going to go ahead and say I don't have a book that would be a red flag, but if they didn't have a Bible, I would leave for sure.
	I feel like any girly book, like any book that every girl's read.
	Yeah, I don't really know.
	Maybe like a book on how to get away with murder.
	Yeah, that's a pretty big red flag.
	It's a very good Netflix series, though.
	If she had White Fragility by... What's her fucking...
	D'Angelo, whatever the fuck.
	Any like DIE bullshit or SJW nonsense.
	If you were smart, like, why would they have a hard copy of any of these insane books?
	Like, wouldn't they just have the...
	That's a good question.
	Copy on the phone.
	Let's see.
	So, okay, getting into some of the pre-show notes for the show, before we get to Pearl, actually, I'll get Jordan even on the floor, so I'll come back to some of your notes.
	Let's see, we have, hold on guys, getting to my notes.
	What's something juicy to jump into?
	Sarah, going back to you, you said that you were dating a guy.
	You have two kids with him, two sons, right?
	Mm-hmm.
	Is he in the picture?
	Like, do you guys co-parent?
	Yeah.
	They're actually with him right now.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	And is it split custody, 50-50?
	It's split custody.
	And did you guys handle this informally, or was it through the court?
	It was through the court.
	Who brought it to court, him or you?
	I did.
	Twice.
	Why?
	Reasons I'm not necessarily allowed to state publicly until the boys are older.
	Okay.
	Do you receive child support from him?
	Yes, but I'm not necessarily paid it, if that makes sense.
	There's a court order for child support, but he doesn't pay it or?
	Right.
	I definitely, like, I'm actually, like, trying to create like amicability between us because I know what it does for like children or what it's done, what it does.
	Like, I have friends, even I grew up, like, not even in a difficult home, but like, I have so many split friend, split home, like, friends.
	So, I'm trying to have, like, meetings with dad or dad's parents to try to become amicable because we've like, we were functioning pretty healthily up until I went to court.
	So, like, that was the issue was, like, they didn't want any like parameters in place.
	Okay.
	Other than that, it has always been like amicable.
	Just under the circumstances of me making it a legal thing, they didn't like that.
	But there were points where I almost felt, well, I definitely felt the need to.
	Wait, who is they?
	Because you said they.
	So I personally feel that what I'm going through in custody is not necessarily with dad.
	It's with family of dad, if that makes sense.
	Like, I don't feel like the, I don't want to call it like a fight.
	I feel like the sharing of custody is more so with other people, not specifically dad.
	So he has like parents, grandparents maybe helping out, that sort of thing?
	Yeah, he lives with his entire family.
	Okay.
	Which is good.
	Our children have access to so much love and resources.
	I see.
	Okay.
	And was he on, was he paying?
	Is the custody arrangement you said is it 50-50?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Physical custody and legal custody?
	Yes.
	He has schooling.
	I don't think I'm allowed to share it, honestly.
	He has some rights.
	I have other rights.
	And it was split because it was felt that there was a lot of animosity.
	So there needed to be, which I think is healthy and I appreciate.
	Wait, did you want more custody than you currently have?
	Like, did you want full custody?
	Selfishly, I would love it, but I don't know what's going on behind closed doors.
	And I know that God sees everything that happens.
	So, like, whatever the path that we've been brought down, like, I definitely see how God has like orchestrated all of it.
	And I just like have faith that if this is what it is right now, it's only because there is a healthy component to it.
	Like, prayerfully, I am always like consulting with God and I'm saying, like, if this is not what's best for my children, for our children, like I would love to raise them 100% of the time.
	But if dad is like on the right path and God sees that and sees him fit, then like I appreciate what the circumstances are right now, which according to our situation, it seems it would be so.
	So you wanted 100% custody only if their dad is like not doing what he should.
	Like I don't want to, I don't want to be like selfish and rid my children of the experience to not have a dad.
	Like I grew up with a single mom and I didn't have access to that.
	Not her fault, but like if they have the opportunity to have a dad who loves and cares for them, and then if I was like, say, to remarry, then they'd have two dads.
	Like I want them to be surrounded by as much love as they can.
	Are there lawyers involved?
	Yeah, I have a lawyer.
	Okay.
	And was he not spending enough time with them before you, or like him and his family, not spending enough time before you went to court?
	Or was he wanting more time?
	There was a lot of, because his life has fluctuated so much and his it's just periodic.
	It's just periodic the the times where, like he would be absent and where he would be present.
	So are you at liberty to speak on what precipitated you wanting to make it a legal matter and going to court?
	Because you were you seeking specifically child support, was it?
	Were you seeking?
	So you were seeking.
	So what was he trying before it went to court?
	What was the arrangement?
	He was trying to get 50, 50 custody.
	I'm not formal.
	I'm not necessarily going to share details because I don't know what i'm allowed to share.
	Um, There were definitely reasons why I went.
	I was very hesitant to take it to court.
	I read about it for a very long time.
	$200 donated $200.
	Panel, if your exes formed a club to discuss you, what would they call it and what would be the club's main activity?
	We'll come.
	Okay, we can do that really quick.
	We'll come back to this, though.
	Go ahead, Pearl.
	Into the mic.
	Into the mic.
	If my exes formed a club to discuss me, what would they call it?
	I miss Pearl, and the main thing that they would discuss is probably how I changed their life for the better.
	Is that true?
	Probably, yeah.
	All my exes have great things to say about me.
	Okay, cool.
	My ex would love to have me back.
	He'd probably say, he'd probably name his club best I ever had.
	Okay, you were probably opt in here at GoHED.
	I've been married so long that, honestly, I really didn't have a whole lot of boyfriends.
	Go ahead.
	Probably.
	Yeah, they don't have anything bad to say about me either, so I'd probably be like the one that got away.
	Okay, go ahead.
	I'd say killed with kindness.
	I don't know.
	I've only had one ex.
	All right, negative 200, appreciate it.
	Okay, so you're currently.
	Is there a, it's not really like in court anymore, though, right?
	Like, it's already kind of been the whole custody arrangement's been determined.
	Is that correct?
	Or is it still like ongoing in court?
	No, we're not like, we're not going to court.
	We haven't gone.
	Yeah, no, no.
	I mean, it's still under the purview of the court, but it's not, you're not, like, currently figuring out the arrangement.
	The arrangement's been determined.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Well, I guess my question was: it sounded like going in.
	So when you went to the court, were you like, I want full custody?
	The first time, yes.
	The second time it was more so.
	I wanted things to be evaluated to see what somebody saw fit.
	Okay.
	And the evaluation came back with half.
	50-50.
	The first time I was like getting the majority, and he had visitation.
	The second time, it was half.
	Oh, so the first time that there was a court order, you got more custody.
	Right.
	And then he was, was he dissatisfied with this?
	And then he went to the court and requested more custody.
	I, when we had our first custody agreement, is when we tried to get back together.
	And then when we tried to get back together, there was a little more unhealth than there had been before.
	Okay.
	So I just decided to go back.
	I see.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	Okay.
	But you said there is a child support order, but he does not pay it.
	Is that creating conflict when it comes to the legal proceedings?
	No.
	I actually like.
	Or do you pay him child support?
	I think everybody around me like thinks that I should be receiving money like exceedingly more, but I'm personally like fine without like it's a very low amount so I could live without it.
	And so I'm just yeah.
	If the court were to award you 100% custody, but he desired to be you had sole custody, but he desired to still want to see the child, do visitation, and perhaps even have informal custody, like say 50% of the time, but the court technically gave you 100% custody.
	Would you withhold from him his ability to see the child?
	No.
	Okay.
	Well, then why did you bring it to court in the first place?
	I'm not allowed to speak on that.
	Okay, that's fair.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	And it sounded like the relationship was to some degree a bit amicable.
	Perhaps there was some conflict, but when you brought it to court, that made things adversarial.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Do you regret bringing it to court retrospectively?
	No.
	Okay.
	So you think now that all is said and done, it was, despite perhaps the money spent and the stress involved with the process, you think it was for the better of both of you and for the better of the child?
	I don't, I serve God, not money.
	So I don't really care about money so long as my kids are okay.
	And like my children have been given to me by God.
	So going to court brought me huge comfort because now there are parameters in place that like if somebody does something, it will be known.
	And I have I'm just freed from a lot of worry because a lot of things were resolved, a lot of things were realized, and a lot of things were put in place to keep the children safe, like our children safe.
	And I can't specify what those things are, but.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	But when it comes, I suppose, to the actual custody arrangement, you went in wanting 100%.
	It sounded like he didn't want, at least from what you've told us, it sounded like he did want to be in the kids' lives.
	He wanted to be involved.
	The family wanted to be involved.
	You wanted 100%, but now you've just, the current custody arrangement is 50-50 custody.
	And I know there's some things you can't speak on, but I guess there's a point of confusion on my end where you went to court seeking one thing, hoping to get one thing, but you ultimately, he still has 50-50, there's 50-50 custody.
	I understand that now that there's structure, you now have a bit more structure to it, but at what cost?
	So I just want to make it clear, I did not go in seeking 100% custody.
	It wasn't like this, I want the kids all to myself type of thing.
	I just felt at the time that they would have been more protected.
	And just to be clear, when I had the majority of custody, I was very Like, even when I was when we had our first custody arrangement and I had majority of custody, when we tried to work things out, like, I mean, I we were pregnant with our second son, and I was driving like for dad to see our child, even when he was in a place where he wasn't necessarily like he was eager to see him,
	but I was just more so trying to like help dad and encourage him to have a relationship.
	So, like, by no means was it like I want 100% custody and to like withhold our children from their dad.
	It was more so like I want him in their lives, but I really want to keep them safe.
	And since family was not helping me to do that, most of the time I needed to have legal help.
	Does that make sense?
	Um, was there a particular family member that is now barred from seeing the child?
	No, well, I'm a little confused on this safety component.
	I just can't share, I just can't share.
	Um, but what I do, what I can tell you is that at the time that I opened in court the second time, and even the first time, there were huge, there were huge issues going on that have thankfully since then been dissolved.
	Like, or for the, for the like right now, they are not an issue.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Um, and just curious, did you say the legal proceedings started while you were pregnant with your second child?
	No, just shortly after he was born.
	Okay, so there weren't legal proceedings prior to the birth of the second child.
	No, no, I mean, of course, after our first child, but that dissolved within the time that like we tried to work out our relationship, which is why I had to like reopen.
	Sure, okay.
	Uh, let's see.
	I'll read a couple chats, then we'll move it on.
	We have Hillary Epstein donated $200, one legal help person to another.
	What did your parents tell you that you could say on the show?
	I am sure of it.
	Wait, is this directed at her?
	Excuse me.
	I'm sorry, Hillary.
	I'm a little confused by the question.
	What did your parents tell you that you could say on the show?
	Do you understand what he's saying?
	My parents really understand.
	Well, I just can't, like, I just can't come out here and say because, like, anybody who goes to court, like, you're supposed to kind of keep everything confidential.
	So, that's fair.
	Thank you, Hillary.
	Appreciate it.
	We have two chats here.
	Maddie, can you read?
	Sounds more like you are upset he wants to be involved.
	Had to fight for 50-50 myself.
	Stop capping.
	You left him.
	No, like, I truly, truly, if he is in good standing, I want him.
	I would never like want our kids to have to not have the opportunity to be with both parents, so long as they're both like doing well for them.
	You know, like I come from a single-family home, didn't know my dad, like actually never met my dad.
	And then somebody came into my life who also like abandoned me.
	So I know what it is to feel rejected by another parent.
	And I would never want our children to even feel like the slightest separation from one parent because I know what it can do.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead, Maddie.
	I have Myron Gaines from the Crash and For podcast book called Why Women Deserve Less.
	This is, is this an immediate red flag?
	Just move your mic.
	No, like that.
	Can you not see or your computer is blocking?
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Was that a red flag?
	If so, just show of hands.
	Is it a red flag?
	The whole bookshelf thing.
	You go to the guy's house, you see the bookshelf.
	There's a book that says why women deserve less.
	Red flag?
	Show of hands.
	Show of hands is yes.
	All right, there it is.
	Show that.
	I guess that's a red flag.
	Okay.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	We have Robert Tanner.
	Can you read this one?
	This is a great panel.
	My question to each of them: what are the specifics/slash qualifications of a first date you are looking for?
	Or if, Marriott, explain your idea of one.
	Also, how important is the first date for you?
	Thank you, Robert Tanner.
	So the question is: what are the specifics, qualifications of a first date you are looking for?
	So what do you expect on the first date?
	I mean, me personally, well, what do I expect?
	I mean, what I like at a first date on a first date is if a man is asking me to go out, like he's planned where we're going, he takes care of the bill.
	Like, he thinks of it as, you know, an honor to have me in his presence, and he's asking me to spend time with him.
	So I think that.
	And then while I'm there, I don't know.
	I like a man who's curious, who's interested, who's asking me questions, who's sharing openly, balanced masculine and feminine energy, shared values, being attracted to them, things like that.
	What did you say about honor?
	Honor your yeah, like he's like, oh, like it's it's it's an honor to have this woman in my presence.
	Like I would like him to think like that.
	Not like she's so lucky to be with me.
	I feel like that's odd energy.
	Well, isn't that precisely what you're expecting?
	For him to think she, I'm so lucky that she's that she agreed to say yes.
	Well, I mean, you said that it should be an honor.
	The guy should view it as an honor that he's in your presence.
	Is it an honor when you're in their presence?
	I think.
	Like for you.
	Like for you.
	Oh, it's an honor to be in your presence, guy.
	Well, I mean, the guy that I'm seeing now, when I went out with him for the first time, I was like, wow, like I'm like, this is, he's a great guy.
	Like, I'm lucky to be able to spend time with him.
	I think ideally both people think that.
	But if the guy comes in thinking that himself, I feel like that's a little odd.
	How do you even get into that as a conversation piece?
	It's not a conversation.
	It's just energy.
	It's just going out with someone, it's just enjoying each other's company.
	I guess I don't quite understand the whole they should be happy and lucky that I'm with them type thing.
	I think that almost puts ourselves too much on a pedestal.
	Wait, hold on.
	So, but going back to what you were saying, you said this is what the guy should be feeling towards me, but it would be odd if he had the same sort of expectation.
	Expectation?
	Didn't you say I heard the words odd?
	Yo, thank you, Grid.
	Grid1 Motorsports donated $200.01.
	Thank you, man.
	Good to see you.
	How many of your panel have perfected the Hawk Tur technique?
	How is your spit on it game?
	How do you ask that?
	Surveys show that a good hawk to you can solve many relationship issues.
	I disagree.
	I disagree, Gridland.
	A good.
	Oh, that's a good thing.
	No such thing as a good enough BJ to deal with a quarrelsome and nagging wife or girlfriend, but also like just to.
	It's not that any girl can spit.
	It ain't that hard.
	Like, that's what the hawk tua is.
	It's literally just spinning.
	You gotta say it how she said it.
	Any chick can do that.
	I don't know.
	Anyways, thank you, Grid 1, though.
	Appreciate it.
	What was his question?
	What are the expectations?
	I don't think any of the girls are going to.
	No, we still need to go around on it.
	Yo, Durin, thank you for the gifted 10.
	Thank you, Grid 1.
	Appreciate it.
	Are you liquor up, Grid 1?
	What's going on, man?
	That was an uncharacteristic.
	That's a new one from Grid 1.
	So going back to this, you said that it should be an honor for the man to be in your presence, but it would be odd if he wanted you to feel honored to be in your presence.
	I think that there's something about being a woman that men desire to have women around them.
	That's why clubs let out, want a lot of women because men like to be in spaces with a lot of women.
	Do women want to be in spaces with a ton of men?
	Not really.
	Like, that's just how it is.
	Women are a desirable presence for men.
	Well, I'm not sure I even agree with the premise here.
	So if we disagree with that.
	Hold on.
	So I would argue, though, like if this was actually the case, then all women nightclubs would be extremely popular.
	They would exist.
	But the reality is, like, the most popular, the most prestigious, the most desirable nightclubs, bars, women are going to these environments where there are men.
	I don't think that, yeah, of course, men also, it's not that women don't want to be around any men at all, but I'm just saying in general, like men, if men are like, oh, a ton of girls are going to be there, they're going to be like, oh, I want to be there.
	But I don't think it's the same in the opposite direction of like, oh my God, there's going to be so many guys there.
	Like, let's go.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, it's different energetically.
	I think it's kind of the same.
	Maybe men like vocalize it more, but I think women are kind of thinking it in their heads.
	That could be a generation thing, too, because when I was in my 20s, I would have definitely gone someplace when there was going to be tons of guys.
	Well, I think there's like.
	I mean, women just refuse to acknowledge that they have any interest in men.
	Like, or any women refuse to acknowledge.
	Let me clarify.
	Women will.
	Hold on.
	Women will refuse to acknowledge that they do anything for the purpose of men.
	For example, when you wear makeup, it's not for men, it's for you, blah, blah, blah.
	If you wear certain clothing, it's not for men, it's for whatever reason.
	If you go to a certain event, it's not to meet guys.
	If you go out to bars and clubs and all this, it's not for the possibility of meeting men.
	It's to go have fun with your girlfriends.
	And while I don't disagree that that can be a component of it, to totally disregard the social component of going to these environments in the hope that you will potentially meet a guy, I think is cope.
	Yeah, I never said that.
	Right, but you're like, well, the girls, we just want to get together and we don't give a fuck if the guys are there or not.
	I think that the point of this podcast is to be controversial, which means that things are going to be, you're going to obviously frame them for profitability as either black or white, when really it's a combination of both.
	Of course, like women dress for themselves and for men.
	That's why we have a conversation about the male gaze and the female gaze.
	And as women, we're like, okay, I think it's good to be reflective.
	Like, am I dressing for men exclusively?
	And how can I do that less and like just dress for myself and try to de-center men?
	But of course, we want and need each other.
	And of course women are doing things to attract men.
	And of course men are doing things to attract women.
	But I feel like how we frame it and how we talk about it and what we emphasize really, you know, contributes to our behavior.
	So wait, women should de-center men?
	I think so, yeah.
	Should men decenter women?
	I think that men are socialized to want to be powerful, whereas women are socialized to be good.
	It's very different in how we're socialized.
	Women are always socialized.
	Oh, how can I, you know, serve men?
	How can I put up everybody?
	Women are praised for putting every single person.
	I reject your premise.
	I reject the premise.
	For example, men, when they're growing up, are taught, this is how you treat women.
	Men are told this.
	Women are never told when growing up, this is how you treat men.
	I actually think women are far more self-interested and self-centered.
	So to say that women are raised to, what did you say, they're good?
	To be good, and men are raised, I don't know if you use the word are socialized, women are socialized to be good, men are socialized to be powerful.
	I actually think men are socialized to be good, and women are socialized to be self-interested.
	Well, I guess we disagree.
	Definitely raised to be ladylike, but not for the purpose of satisfying a man, just being ladylike.
	But then I would also ask, if that's the case, because I'll often, and maybe you actually might have even brought this up on the last show, although I forget.
	If I say something like, well, men are negatively affected in this way, the rebuttal I'll often receive is, well, whose fault is that?
	It's other men's fault.
	But then I can actually just use this argument towards women.
	So can we agree that I don't know what the exact number is, but there's a lot of single-parent households.
	Agreed?
	And are these single-parent households most more often than not single-mother households?
	Okay.
	And then when it comes to, let's say, kindergarten through sixth grade, we can even do, what's the proportion of female teachers to male teachers?
	Probably more women.
	More women.
	So all the influence that these young men have growing up is female influence in the household where they spend most of their time.
	And then they're going to spend, what, eight, nine hours a day in school where the female, where the influence is female, not male typically.
	There's very few.
	Fewer and fewer as the years go.
	Male teachers.
	Show up to a party naked.
	What other way could you easily attract men?
	Why even wear clothes that barely cover your private parts if that's how you're dressing for yourself?
	Where is the distinction?
	Wait, show up to a party naked?
	Going back to the bikini.
	Back to this, okay.
	What other way could you easily attract men?
	Why even wear clothes that barely cover your private parts?
	That's how you're dressing.
	Where's the distinction?
	Show up to a party naked.
	Thank you, Kill of Cereal.
	I do think I. Adam and Eve walked around naked and didn't even know it.
	Yeah.
	Okay, there was no weird.
	We'll come back to this, but really quick on the Kill of Cereal one.
	Do you guys think totally, would it be fair game for a guy to break up with his girlfriend if he did not want her to go to a party and she did?
	Fair game?
	Or is he being too controlling?
	He can definitely break up with her whether or not it's a right decision.
	He's going to later find out.
	Sure.
	Well, okay.
	He's in.
	Of course it's his rights.
	He's not fair, though.
	But like, is he being too controlling?
	Yes.
	Well, I think we also discussed that we really don't know a lot of the story here.
	So we don't know if he knew ahead of time.
	Well, but I think it does.
	Here's the story.
	I'm dating a girl.
	She wants to go to a pool party where she's going to wear a bikini and there's going to be alcohol and she's going with her single girlfriends and I don't want her to go.
	I think that you guys are just not fit for each other and you should find somebody who is or isn't willing based off of what you want in a partner.
	I don't think that one situation should be enough for them to break up or him to break up with her.
	I think that would be stupid.
	If it's just that scenario that you just presented.
	That's the scenario.
	Then I don't think he's not too controlling.
	Okay.
	Pearl?
	That scenario is indicative of a much bigger issue, which is there's no trust.
	I think it is indicative of a much bigger issue.
	And the bigger issue is, is she's inclined to go to the party.
	Well, it depends on so much.
	It could either be he's controlling or it could be that he's picking up that she's not trustworthy.
	We don't know enough information, like you were saying.
	So it could totally be extremely unfair and like, relax.
	I'm wearing a bikini.
	It's fine.
	Or he could be like, yeah, you're wearing a bikini because you're trying to get other attention of other men, which I've seen as a pattern in your life.
	And that's fair.
	Okay, well, I mean, just by virtue of, as a woman, if you go to these sorts of environments, whether it be a bar, club, house party, pool party, whatever, it doesn't even have to be a conscious thing where I'm like, even if your intention is, I don't have any intention of going to this thing to get male attention, you know, by virtue of going to it that you will get male attention.
	And therein lies the problem.
	Oh, so if the man is, if my boyfriend was going to get mad at me because if I wear a bathing suit, I'm going to get male attention, he has an insecurity issue.
	And yeah, no, I think that that's controlling and okay.
	It's not just about the bikini.
	For example, if you were to go to the beach with him, men, look, men have different boundaries when it comes to this specific thing.
	But going to a party, I'm assuming in this scenario, it's without him present.
	Going to a party with your girlfriends or whatever.
	Basically, it's a singles event.
	Okay.
	So what is this?
	I would ask him, what's your issue?
	Like, what is your issue with the fact that I'm wearing a bikini?
	It's not so much the bikini, it's the going to the party, wearing the bikini.
	If you're wearing a bikini at home, he probably wouldn't give a shit.
	Okay, why is that?
	Why does that bother you?
	That's what I'm saying.
	Because men and women flirt differently.
	Okay, and I would say I'm not there to flirt with anyone.
	I'm there to enjoy myself.
	Okay, but let me ask you a question.
	So do you ever approach guys?
	No.
	The guy you're currently dating, did he approach you or did you approach him?
	I guess we just started talking to each other because we were near one another, I guess.
	You guys work together?
	Yeah.
	I mean, no, we don't work together, but we met at his place of work.
	I was doing a gig there and he was like in charge of setting up the gig.
	Can I ask you?
	Yeah, hold on.
	Hold on.
	So who asked for whose number?
	He asked for mine.
	Who set up the date?
	He did.
	I'm assuming I won't get into too much detail.
	Did he go for the first kiss?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So yeah, he hit on you.
	Yeah.
	It wasn't mutual.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So there's a differential here in the way that men and women flirt.
	Like women won't slide into a dude's DMs.
	They will sometimes.
	Yeah, yeah, for the most part.
	They'll post like a revealing photo in an effort to get in an effort to solicit men to then contact them.
	Grid one Motorsports donated $200.01.
	Thank you, man.
	It is always interesting when women try to make the case for dressing like a whore.
	If you dress for the job you want and you dress like a whore, then you are proclaiming yourself a whore.
	Duper.
	A, she was a hooer.
	B, she was a hooer.
	Thank you, Gridwald.
	I spelled it like I said it, hoa.
	So, what were you saying?
	Thank you, Gridland.
	You were saying that women post pictures for male attention.
	Yeah, so like you'll go to a bar, you won't like actively approach a guy, but you'll go to the bar with the understanding that there's a good chance that men will approach you.
	Yeah, I think that some women for sure wear clothing to elicit male attention.
	I don't think that that's something that doesn't happen.
	But so here's the thing, though.
	In a relationship, there's an expectation that as a guy, whoa, it would be cheating for me to go and approach a girl and try to flirt with her while I'm in a relationship, correct?
	But we have nothing in place in society that frowns upon or shames women by the way women run game.
	We don't stop women from running the type of game that y'all run, which is indirect.
	Does that make sense?
	I understand what you're saying.
	Yeah, because like you, you guys will be, you'll put yourselves out there to give space for men to come and talk to you.
	But it's frowned upon for men to put down boundaries and be controlling and say, you need to cut off your options the same way I'm not going out there and approaching girls and giving them or asking for their number and doing all this.
	Simply you, I'm trying to think of like a good scenario here.
	I had a pretty good example, I think.
	How like female birds they will do mating calls and they will puff their feathers and everything and the male has to come to the female bird.
	That's kind of what us women do by going out and dressing, you know, certain ways, getting all dolled up, and then the men will approach us because we're kind of putting off that energy, like we're trying to get that attention.
	That's a good example.
	It's a really good example.
	It's a good example.
	But there's nothing like, I mean, at least, look, there are traditional relationships where there's an expectation where if you're in this relationship as a woman, you're not going to put yourself out there.
	But it's certainly much more common.
	Like it's almost clear-cut.
	Hey, the guy has to stop approaching girls while in a relationship.
	But the means with which women will solicit male attention don't cease once they're in a relationship.
	Posting provocative photos on Instagram, going to these, in my view, are very specific social settings which enable either casual sexual encounters or a means by which people can meet romantic partners, right?
	And I mean, you can say, well, the club, the bar, it's just for fun.
	But like, you don't go to Trader Joe's and you don't see people getting finger blasted randomly after 10 minutes of meeting somebody at Trader Joe's.
	I see that shit all the time.
	At least when I was in college, I was like, bro, people be fucking in the middle of the parties.
	It wasn't like college was crazy.
	Let me just tell you.
	Okay.
	Can I add some questions?
	I've never seen somebody get finger blasted at Whole Foods.
	Walk into a college party.
	Finger blasted.
	My Whole Foods, My Whole Foods is lit.
	Okay.
	So speak for yourself.
	So I have a question.
	So.
	Grid one motorsports donated $200.01.
	That is a horrible example.
	In nature, the males are the ones that are brightly colored and show off.
	The females are plain and dress.
	Get an education for fuck's sake.
	Somebody said I'm going to the wrong Whole Foods.
	Okay, sorry.
	Go ahead.
	So, okay.
	Thank you, Grid 1.
	So say, whatever.
	I wear a skin-tight body con dress that's short and has a V cut.
	What the fuck is that?
	I'm sorry, I'm a dude.
	A V cut?
	Who the fuck is that guy?
	It's literally a V. The contour?
	I don't know what that is.
	I said body cut out.
	A tight dress.
	That shows off your curves, okay?
	So if I want to wear that, I'm in a relationship and I'm just like, oh, it just makes me feel good.
	And I wear it to Whole Foods.
	Is that okay?
	Because like you said, it's not an environment where people are getting, you know, getting sexual attention.
	It's just what if I just want to wear that dress?
	Is that fine then?
	Well, I mean, so I'm not familiar exactly with what that outfit would look like.
	If you go to Trader Joe's and Whole Foods and you happen to be approached, I don't think, I'm not suggesting like, hey, as a guy, your girl can't go grocery shopping.
	What I am saying is when it comes to parties, bars, nightclubs, whatever, these are very, very specific social settings.
	So you would agree that wearing an outfit that is like maybe tight or whatever, but I'm not doing it to get male attention because I'm not going to these specific places that are for like romantic and sexual and casual connections.
	I'm going to go get carniasada and chips.
	Like, is that okay?
	Is that okay?
	I mean, every man has different standards on this.
	I do generally prefer women who dress a bit more modestly.
	Yeah, so we're not talking about preferences.
	We're just talking about like the sort of generic understanding of like, is it the actual dress or is it the intent behind the dress?
	Well, I think we're getting away a little bit here because the segment wasn't specifically exclusively just about the bikini.
	It was wearing the bikini to this party, right?
	So you're not going to answer my question?
	You're saying, is it okay to wear that dress to like a place like Whole Foods or Trader Joe's?
	I don't know specifically what it looks like, but.
	A dress that would make you mad or someone mad that they're wearing it to a club because it seems like they're doing it to elicit male attention.
	I would say a lot of men prefer their girlfriends to dress modestly.
	Okay, so it's not okay to wear it to Whole Foods.
	What do you mean?
	That's exactly what I mean.
	Would it be okay if I'm wearing it in an environment that's not to attract men?
	Again, I don't know what the specific outfit that you're referring to looks like.
	Okay, so imagine an outfit that you'd be upset about or that someone might be, you would say that's okay to be upset about.
	Let's use like a more obvious example.
	She's wearing like short, short jeans with her ass sticking out and like a crop top.
	I, to some degree, would find this a little objectionable, at least from a girlfriend.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	But that would be appropriate if you're like trying to get male attention or something.
	Well, I prefer modest dress in general.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	That's what she wanted to say.
	Oh, no, that's what she wanted to say.
	If I was dating a girl, I would hope in general that she did dress a bit more modestly.
	I'm not saying it's got to be a turtleneck and sweatpants all the time.
	And men have varying degrees of what they think would be appropriate or not.
	But yeah, like ass-out short shorts, I would probably feel a little like, I'd feel a type of way about it.
	See, we need to change.
	When you get into a relationship and you're committed to someone or eventually get married, what you do should change.
	Okay, you can't just continue to do everything the same.
	So it comes down to if your boyfriend or even your husband at that time didn't want you to go to a party in a bikini, really isn't that important?
	Killer of cereal donated $200.
	Yeah, thank you, Killer.
	Women who say it's just skin are too open to hurting the one they are with by being too open with their bodies.
	Sex is sacred to be shared by two people behind closed doors.
	Stick around for part two.
	Oh, he's gonna, I suppose, send another one.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Killer of Cereal.
	Appreciate it, man.
	I'm just kind of waiting to see if it's gonna come through.
	And look, I think a lot of guys, a lot of guys, when it comes to, look, there's the whole dressing thing.
	That's one component.
	I'm actually, I would say, a little more flexible, specifically when it comes to your dress.
	And I do think there's a geographic component to it.
	Like, if you live in a really warm climate, like, I think it's going to be a bit more socially acceptable to dress, show a bit more skin for, like, temperature reasons.
	Like, that's fair, right?
	Summertime, you know, you don't expect a girl to be wearing a fucking turtleneck in midsummer in Florida or something.
	But.
	I have a question after this.
	Grid one Motorsports donated $200.1 cent.
	B, these girls are used to dating loser coomers, not real men with values, morals, and standards.
	They would rather dress like a whore than to be honorable and worthy of being in a man's life.
	A, she was a hooa.
	B, she was a hooer.
	Dating loser coomers.
	Is he referencing us?
	Show of hands.
	Who's dating a loser coomer?
	What is that?
	Show of hands.
	Killer of Serial donated $200.
	If you show up to a party with your man and dress scantily clad, what message do you think you're sending to him?
	Advertising yourself to all others.
	Why would he want to be with you?
	Yeah, that's disrespectful and embarrassing for your man, for you to be out here acting single when you have a man at home.
	And also, it depends like who's going to be there at the party.
	Is it a bunch of single people?
	Because if you surround yourself with a bunch of single people, not that it's bad to have single friends, but you start to act single.
	Like you are who you hang out with.
	Like as soon as I got married, I wanted to have friends and women that were married, not only married, but Christian married women who have values.
	Like you have to surround yourself with people who had those same values.
	Like I'm not going to go out to a club and be giving all of this attention to all of these men when my man's at home.
	Like that's disrespectful.
	And if it, if it was like, hey, I don't want you to go to this party, regardless of who's there, end of story.
	Honor your man.
	I'm not going.
	It doesn't matter what the reason is.
	I'm not going.
	I've got to pick your battle.
	I'm not going to question him.
	You had something, Pearl.
	Go ahead.
	I was just going to say, like, with the bikini thing, for me, like, I really struggled with body image for a really long time.
	And I would wear big t-shirts over my bathing suit.
	I like had a really not good relationship with food.
	It was a huge struggle in my life that took a long, long time.
	So for me, when I wear a bikini to the beach or like to the whatever, whatever I might be when I'm in water or not, like I'm really truly not thinking, how can I get men's attention?
	It's, it's for me, like, it feels good.
	I'm like, wow, I'm confident enough and comfortable enough in my skin to wear this bikini.
	You know, I would, but I will say that.
	Oh, shit.
	$1,000.
	Donated $1,000.
	Pop champagne.
	Yo, thank you, bro.
	Yo, thank you, brother.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Dude, you're a hold on me.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	He's a pioneer.
	If you guys want, check out his YouTube channel, by the way.
	Back to the roots.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	We got champagne.
	Is everybody over everybody's over 21, except for Madison here?
	Sorry, Maddie.
	I don't want it.
	I think you're going ahead with your point.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, I mean, yeah, I was just saying that, like, for me, wearing a bikini is like an act of self-love and self-confidence.
	And at the same time, yeah, if I was going, which I just wouldn't go to, but if I was going to some party with a bunch of like single guys looking to connect with girls, like I probably would dress a little bit differently if I was with a man.
	Like, I probably would.
	I wouldn't wear like my sexiest bikini.
	I'd probably be a little bit more, a little bit more modest.
	I probably would.
	But I think it would be ineffective for my man to say, don't go to that party.
	So can we get cups?
	I got the champagne bottle.
	As he opens.
	Now, you know, there's not to say the times that your man don't want you to dress a certain type of way, too, when you go out.
	So at that point, because I'm dressing for him, right?
	And that's totally fine.
	I think it's fair for a man to say, like, don't dress for the same things and in the same way.
	When you're with me, you have my attention.
	Why do you need the attention of other people?
	And it's not even to say that if he leaves to go to the restroom, that a man may not even come approach and even see that you were with another man.
	Yeah, no, that happens all the time.
	But I think that if a man is insecure, he will try to be controlling and say, don't wear this, don't wear this, don't wear this.
	Like, it's a balance.
	It's a balance.
	It's a give and take.
	And I get what you're saying, but also, I think if you asked a bunch of men what they thought when they saw a woman in a bikini, like what their thoughts on it, I think they would all agree that they think that they're doing it for other people other than themselves.
	Well, that is their, that's them.
	Why am I living for the opinions and thoughts of a bunch of men?
	Like, I'm going to live for my own opinion and my own self-confidence and my own self-worth.
	And of course, take into consideration the person that I'm dating.
	But doesn't that go against what you just said earlier?
	What does?
	About how you were saying that when you're raised, you're raised to be good.
	And then Brian said, well, doesn't it seem more like women are raised to think about themselves?
	And then you just said that you're living for yourself.
	You're not thinking about other people's opinion.
	For me, I was not raised to put myself in the center.
	I was raised to put everybody else, my dad's opinion, everybody's opinion above my own.
	And for me, growth is learning how to actually think, oh, you know, what do I want to wear in this moment?
	You know, how can I live in such a way that actually honors my own opinion and that I'm actually thinking about myself for the first time?
	Really quick, just show of hands, who wants champagne?
	I do.
	We all have free will.
	As a woman, even if you're married, you have free will of what you're going to wear.
	At the end of the day, like my man shouldn't even be in a position to have to tell me don't wear that because I have the free will to not wear that because I have the free will to honor him, if that makes any sense.
	So at the end of the day, it's okay to be confident.
	Like, listen, I'm a personal trainer.
	I want my body to look good clearly, but it's not for the attention of other people and I shouldn't make it known that it's for the attention of other people.
	And I think when you're, especially when you're married, like, and I think now that I'm married, I do understand, like, you have to, your body has to be, it's for your man.
	And so you have to honor that and you have to be respectful of that at the end of the day.
	So if your man was like, if your man was like, don't wear leggings, I want you to only wear sweatpants because it makes me feel uncomfortable.
	Would you be like, sure, no question.
	I mean, no, I think we'd have to have like a conversation about that, why he feels that way.
	He'd be like, I don't like how men are always looking at your fat, juicy ass.
	Well, I'd be like, they're going to look at it no matter what.
	I mean, they're going to be.
	Even though they're going to look at it.
	And he's like, yeah, but it's more prominent.
	It looks like you're dressing more familiar.
	Quick interruption here.
	Cheers.
	Salu.
	Salu.
	Cheers to.
	Back to the roots.
	Thank you, man.
	Thank you for the champagne popular legend, sir.
	I guess I just feel like this podcast, honestly, Brian, this is an incredible podcast.
	How many subscribers do you have?
	Oh, thank you.
	How many subscribers do you have?
	Like 4 million or some shit?
	4.
	Oh, 4.4?
	Like, that is, as someone who's in the online space, like, that's obviously a huge feat.
	Obviously, you're raking in the money.
	Someone just sent in a grand.
	I'm a starving college student.
	Like, that is so struggling.
	Amazing.
	And at the same time, I feel like it's equally difficult to know how to be a good woman and how to be a good man.
	And I know that there are a lot of people tuning in to watch these shows.
	And I just, I guess I fear that all of these people who are watching are just getting like riled up to hate on each other and hate on the sexes when really like we need one another to see it from a different perspective and how we communicate our intentions and our desires.
	Like saying, don't wear that.
	Like that's just not going to be an effective conversation.
	That's effective.
	Wait, that's super effective.
	If I've got a girlfriend and I say, don't do something, she says, yes, sir.
	I mean, that's super effective.
	Don't do this.
	Okay.
	perfect communication right i guess if that's two hundred dollars right Take into consideration the person I'm dating.
	That statement says that you wouldn't have respect for a man in your life.
	A man in your life seems like a superficial add-on to what outfit you want.
	Yo, Caleb Cereal, appreciate it, bro.
	Statement says that you wouldn't have respect for men in your life.
	A man in your life seems like a superficial add-on to what outfit you want.
	We have another one coming through, so I'm going to just right now.
	Hillary Epstein, Hillary Epstein.
	$200.
	Thank you, bro.
	Not at all.
	We don't argue, we debate.
	We don't argue.
	We debate.
	What's this in reference to?
	I totally forgot.
	Can I redress her question that you're going to be doing?
	She needs to finish her statement, though.
	Sorry, Jordan.
	Love you.
	I guess...
	Not in that way.
	Oh, no, I didn't that question.
	Listen, I just like, I was like, whoa.
	I guess if you want a woman, it depends what kind of woman you want.
	Like, if you want a woman who's self-assured, who has self-worth, who has high self-confidence, and who wants like a relationship or a partnership where there's like equal give and take, I feel like a woman like that is going to have a hard time being in a relationship with someone who says, don't do that.
	And immediately, without any discussion, she says yes or no.
	Wait, but hold on, hold on.
	And we're going to get to your viral TikTok that will bring it back up.
	There's a TikTok.
	But I mean, like, you said partnership.
	Did the words equal?
	Did you say equal?
	Give and take.
	Give and take.
	Do you really want a partnership?
	Do you really want equal?
	I don't.
	I think that a relationship is two people with different sets of strengths helping each other grow.
	But so, do you want a guy to lead?
	I think that, yes, I would like a man who has vision for his life and he has ambition for his life, and that that ambition and that vision is something that I am also that we're going in the same direction so that we can partner together in that way.
	Are you talking like career?
	No, just like life overall.
	It includes career for sure.
	But I'm asking, do you want a guy to lead?
	Do you want a leader in your relationship?
	I think that I'm attracted to leadership qualities, yeah.
	But do I want him to direct everything that I say and think?
	No, I want, I think, you have autonomy.
	I do want leadership.
	And I think that good leadership is one that is like, oh, like, what do you think?
	Is there something that I might be missing?
	Is there something that I don't understand, right?
	That's taking everything that I think into consideration also respects.
	You can take into consideration.
	You can even consult.
	There can be thorough consultation, but isn't it the case that the leader makes the final determination?
	And if the final determination is no about something that I can and cannot do, like wear something or not wear something?
	You just said you want a leader, right?
	So is a leader to you the only entailment of what a leader is is only when you agree?
	Or are there instances when a leader will make a determination that perhaps you personally disagree with, but you have to defer to their leadership?
	I think it depends on what the subject is.
	For instance, the guy...
	You going to a pool party in a bikini.
	Or a pool party, period.
	Can I ask something?
	Wait, let her finish the knowledge.
	That good leadership knows what its strengths are and knows what its weaknesses are.
	My strength as the leader of the relationship is protecting the relationship.
	Okay.
	By precluding you from going to essentially a single event.
	Well, we're not dating, and I would never date someone who has that ideal.
	So to me, for instance, I'm dating somebody who has more financial literacy than me.
	Okay.
	So if we're talking about something finance-based, and he's like, don't do that.
	I'm going to defer to him because he knows more.
	But in a situation like a social situation where I might be wearing something that makes him feel uncomfortable, it's going to be a give and take.
	And if he was like, no, don't do that because I'm uncomfortable with it, I would have, it'd be a conversation.
	What is there?
	What's the conversation?
	I would say, why do you feel uncomfortable with that?
	I think, you know, when it comes sometimes to conversations like this, I think no is a one-word sentence.
	I don't need to justify my reason.
	I can just say no, and that should be it.
	And that's why we're not dating.
	That comes across as a dynamic.
	I'm not trying to cross as a dictatorship.
	Honestly, that's what a relationship should be.
	No.
	That's like what you want, and that's fine.
	Then find a woman who won't talk about it.
	No, I shouldn't have to for something like this.
	I don't think it's necessary for me to have to justify my reasoning.
	Then find a girl who wants that.
	That's right.
	You think that all male and women and female relationships should be exactly like that?
	Where men say no and women say, okay, whatever you want, no questions asked.
	So long as women continue to demand leadership qualities when said leadership qualities stand to benefit you.
	For example, you said that the guy you're dating right now, you enjoyed the leadership qualities, the initiative qualities when it came to he asked you out, he planned the date, he paid for the date, he moved things forward, he went for the first kiss.
	You love it when men are leaders in that regard.
	You only want leadership when it benefits you, right?
	You don't want the other component of leadership when you have to defer to him in other situations.
	So you only want a leader when it benefits you.
	When it doesn't benefit you, all of a sudden it's 50-50.
	You want equality.
	In order for you to be with a leader, you need to be a follower.
	Point blank, period.
	I think that that is a very black and white way of thinking about leadership.
	think that there are ways that you can lead that allows a little bit more give and take than what you're than how you're thinking i feel like it's sure i think I think what are you are wanting and what you think is one person is in complete and total leadership and one person is in complete and total submission.
	If that's what you want and you want a girl who also wants that, then go for it.
	I personally take it.
	Sounds like a good deal.
	I take more of a yin-yang approach, meaning the man leads in most ways, and then in some ways we have more discussion.
	And then in some ways, I take the leadership.
	So equality, like the buffet of equality.
	You pick and choose what you want, the equality that benefits you, you disregard the equality that doesn't.
	Well, the ways in which I lead.
	It's like feminism, basically.
	The ways in which I lead in the relationship, he benefits from that.
	How do you lead in the relationship?
	I mean by having insights and discussions about things instead of just completely.
	That's not leading.
	Okay, well I'm sorry.
	What's the insight?
	What's the insight?
	Well, for instance, if we had a discussion about if he was uncomfortable with something that I'd wear, I don't think it would be something where he says I'm uncomfortable.
	And I'm like, sure, no problem.
	You know what I mean?
	You'd have to receive justification.
	We'd have a discussion about it.
	Yeah.
	And then you'd be like, well, you're a pansy and insecure for feeling this way.
	Continue.
	You're putting words in my mouth.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	Okay, fine.
	I'm not being fair.
	You would just continuously badger and badger and keep trying to seek the justification.
	Why would I have to say more than, don't do it, this makes me uncomfortable?
	I don't even think you need the, though this makes me uncomfortable.
	I think the don't do it is sufficient.
	Okay.
	Then you do it.
	Then go ahead and do that.
	What would be, okay, we'll roleplay.
	We'll role play as your boyfriend.
	Okay.
	So I don't want you to wear that.
	Makes me uncomfortable.
	Oh, okay.
	What about it makes you uncomfortable?
	Too revealing.
	Oh, it's too revealing.
	And you don't want me to wear something too revealing because I just, I don't know, don't like it.
	You don't know and you don't like it.
	Is there a way in which we can get to you being able to articulate how you're feeling?
	Because your feelings really matter to me, and I want to make sure that you feel comfortable, but what you're giving me isn't enough, and I just want to make sure that we have good communication.
	So can you go into a little bit more depth about why that makes you feel uncomfortable?
	I just vaguely feel uncomfortable with it.
	You vaguely feel uncomfortable.
	I can't.
	I mean, I don't know how else to precisely articulate this.
	I know with certainty I feel uncomfortable with it.
	I don't want you to go out to the party.
	Okay, so you don't want to communicate to me why?
	I just did.
	I don't know what else you want me to tell you.
	I guess I want you to say why you feel uncomfortable with me going.
	Is it because you think that I'm dressing for other men?
	I just think it's when it comes to this, it's a boundary that remains a reasonable dating standard for commitment-minded men.
	Okay, so the way in which I'm dressing makes you feel like it's inappropriate for our relationship?
	Correct.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So do you agree to not go to the party?
	Because I'm uncomfortable.
	I think this is a further discussion about our long-term compatibility.
	Okay, so you're essentially preempting the breakup then.
	Well, I would say if I'm with someone who doesn't know how to communicate what he's feeling, then we're not.
	How did I not communicate?
	I'm literally communicating.
	I know we're still role-playing a little bit, but.
	I mean, yeah, if that's what you think communication is, I guess I'm looking for a deeper level of self-awareness and self-understanding and communication, which means we're probably not.
	This is a standard that I want in the partner.
	You're going out to this party.
	Don't want you at the party.
	Here, I'll add more.
	So frequently, women will go to this party, even if you have no intention of talking to other men.
	Men are going to come up to you.
	There's potentially creepy men at this party.
	They could try to put something in your drink.
	I'm aware of this.
	This is a complaint that a lot of women have.
	I'm doing this to protect the relationship.
	And as my role is protector in the relationship, I'm trying to protect you too.
	I don't want something bad to happen at this party.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I don't want you to go to it.
	You don't want me to go to it because you care about me and you don't want to see me get hurt.
	I care about you.
	I care about your safety and I care about the relationship.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You're still going to the party?
	I mean, if it makes you that uncomfortable.
	Are you still going to the party?
	If it makes you that uncomfortable because you really, you actually are scared for my safety, like, are there reasons that make this party make you feel more uncomfortable than the party I went to last week or whatever?
	Oh, you went to a party last week?
	Oh, you didn't tell me about that.
	Later, I'm out.
	So he's going in.
	Yeah.
	I'm just saying, like, whoever I choose as a partner, if they're actually, if it's not coming from insecurity, it's not becoming because, it's not because of distrust, it's not because of insecurity, it's genuinely for my protection, then I'm like, oh, I'm open to hearing from you, and I'm open to not going because this is a discussion that we're having.
	But if I sense that it's out of lack of self-awareness, lack of, and because of their insecurity, then I'm like, let's tease that out a little bit because I don't think that it's good to have a relationship where the other person feels insecure.
	If it truly is like, if you're wearing that.
	Why is that an insecurity?
	If it's an insecurity because I'm going to get male attention and you don't like that, then that's an insecurity.
	Because I'm like, like, my man, trust me.
	Like, I'm all about you.
	Like, I'm not doing this for you at all.
	Like, I want you to have trust for me.
	And if he's like, oh, yeah, like, let me reflect on that.
	That is because of my insecurity.
	Then we could have that discussion.
	But if it's truly about my protection and he's like, listen, I know the kinds of guys who are there.
	Like, that outfit makes me so.
	It's all about how you communicate it.
	If he communicates into a way that's with sincere love and like protection for me, then I'm like, listen, I don't understand, but you obviously are a man.
	You know how men think.
	And like, we have a secure thing.
	And like, you're really, if the guy, I'm, if I'm the, the guy that I'm dating right now, he's so self-aware.
	He's so good at communication.
	He's so trustworthy.
	Like, he's amazing.
	So if he was like, yeah, in a second.
	If he was like, please do not go to that party dress like that.
	Like, it is not going to go well for you.
	And I just feel so uncomfortable.
	I would be like, I might not fully understand that, but it seems to me like this isn't coming out of insecurity.
	It's coming from protection from me.
	Okay.
	Like, I get that.
	Before I have her come in, I'll just say what you call insecurity, I call having a standard.
	I call having a boundary.
	Go ahead.
	So earlier when we got the question about what is your ideal date or whatever, and you said something along the lines of a man who is equally masculine and feminine?
	I said balanced feminine and masculine energy.
	Okay, would you describe your current boyfriend as feminine?
	I would describe him as masculine, but he has feminine energy as well.
	Okay, that's all I wanted to ask.
	Yeah, he's very masculine.
	Liz, did you have something from earlier?
	Yeah, I had, I guess, like not every situation comes down to trust.
	It's about a respect aspect.
	Where you go reflects your man.
	And if you're going out there and everyone's like, you're like, bro, I saw your girl at the club last week.
	I saw your girl at a party.
	Like, what the heck is she doing there?
	Blah, blah, blah.
	It makes your man look bad.
	So in the Bible, it says avoid all appearances of evil.
	Yeah.
	So that's where she's going with that is that nobody, if somebody sees you out doing that, they don't need to know anything about you.
	They don't need to know why you went, who you went.
	That was a second, third outfit you put on.
	They're going to form their own opinions.
	Well, yeah.
	I think honestly, I think that it's somewhere in between.
	I don't think that it's a this or that thing.
	Like if my best friend is having her bachelorette and we're all going out, I'm not going to not go because someone might think that I'm doing something with my man.
	Me personally, I don't like environments like that.
	I don't like, I don't like unlike, I don't want a ton of male attention.
	I like to dress in a more classy way.
	Like that's just my opinion.
	Like that's just how I am.
	So I don't think I would ever have that issue.
	But I don't think that it's, at the same time, I just think the way in which you approach a conversation matters.
	And by saying no, and the person's saying, okay, fine.
	Wait, what's actually wrong with that?
	What is actually wrong with a guy just saying no?
	Well, I personally just don't like people who don't communicate.
	That is communication.
	In a way that...
	That's literally communication.
	Yeah.
	This is so serious to me, I don't even need to justify it.
	Okay, well, I feel like that would be like something that would kind of come up at the beginning.
	And for me, a one-word answer, a one-word answer that doesn't have like, I guess, a deeper understanding of why.
	Like, if that's already a thing that's like communicated between the two of you, and it's like, when you say no, I know exactly what that means.
	Bye, right?
	Wait, does this also, just curious, I know this is a little off top, maybe somewhat on, I mean, if do we extend the same logic to like consent?
	What do you mean?
	So, like, does a girl need to justify her no?
	Is that a reach?
	I don't think that's a chat.
	Is that a reach?
	I don't think that's a reach.
	Those are very, very different things.
	If a woman is saying, access to me in this way, then a man should say no.
	But you're saying, no, don't do, like, you're telling the woman about her behavior.
	Right, I know you're not.
	You can say no.
	If a woman's like, I want to come onto you, and you're like, no, that's totally fine.
	Yes, it doesn't map on one-to-one, but I'm more so trying to probe the logic of you need to be able to communicate.
	Sometimes communicating no is completely appropriate.
	Sometimes communicating no needs more.
	It needs to be fleshed out.
	It depends on the situation.
	When it comes to sexual advances from a man or sexual advances from a woman, no is completely fine.
	I agree.
	I think if a woman need only just say no, she need not justify her no in order for the man to stop his pursuit.
	Yeah.
	A woman should just say no and that should be enough.
	Yeah, and vice versa.
	If a woman's coming on to a man and the man says no, that's completely enough.
	I mean, like kind of looking into the logic here.
	Well, so you think that the same amount of communication, no matter what the discussion is, should just be a one-word sentence?
	I don't think if a woman just says no, I think you leave it there.
	I don't think you push it, really.
	When it comes to sexual advances, yes.
	But if you're having a conversation outside of that, like it's different.
	I would think politics require different amounts of explanation.
	Like if you're talking about possibly true, I don't think in this specific situation we're talking about, I don't think, as the guy, if this is an expectation that you have in a relationship.
	If this is the expectation that you have in a relationship is a very important prerequisite for this conversation.
	That I would never agree to personally.
	That is what you want.
	Go ahead.
	Find a woman you want.
	To be clear, I don't want to.
	I can't imagine myself having this sort of conversation with a woman ever because one, I don't go to bars, I don't go to clubs, I don't go to parties, don't drink, don't do drugs, not my scene.
	Similarly, I don't date women who go to bars, clubs, and parties.
	So I don't think it would even come up to begin with.
	I don't think it would come up to, it hasn't, and it won't come up to begin with in my relationship either because I don't go to clubs or parties either.
	You don't?
	No.
	I mean, I go to gatherings, like festive parties or whatever.
	I might go to a pool party, but not like parties like that.
	But I also, like, if I do, if, again, if my friend's having a bachelor party, I, yeah, I would go to that.
	But that's not like in that word.
	That's not like my scene.
	I do have to, I'm going to move it on just because we've spent a long time on this.
	I guess I will, and if anybody wants to add anything, we can.
	I guess I'll just end it on some advice to the gentleman here.
	Gentlemen, don't be in a serious relationship with a woman who doesn't realize the importance of limiting her own behavior to protect the relationship.
	If you respect your partner, you don't engage in activities designed for single people.
	That's my view.
	You're welcome to disagree.
	I don't disagree with that.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I don't disagree with that statement at all.
	And I live it in my behavior.
	Oh, fuck.
	Didn't mean to press that off.
	Okay.
	I just, part of the confusion here is, like, you have this viral TikTok and you've said other things on the show, which leads me to believe that you do want a more traditional man.
	More masculine man.
	You want a guy to pay for dates.
	You want a guy to take initiative.
	You want a guy to lead.
	But this would be like a great example of a leadership moment where the guy is exercising some degree of leadership and authority in the relationship.
	but you're, like, in this instance where it conceivably comes to your detriment in some way because he is exerting some degree of control, you, like, shut it down.
	Killer of serial donated $200.
	You let me take the lead on everything else except for when it comes to you being promiscuous and revealing with your body around random guys at a singles party.
	She belongs to the streets.
	Paul Furida.
	Okay.
	Yo, kill of cereal.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Do you have a...
	Wait, uh...
	Afuera!
	Did you mean that?
	Okay, Kill of Cereal.
	Do you have a response to Kill of Cereal?
	I mean, I think the assumption is that I am being promiscuous and revealing with my body at parties, which in my opinion and in the opinion of the person I'm dating, I am not.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	That's my response.
	Cool.
	Really quick before we get into more of the chats, Nick, can you pull up Twitch?
	Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever, drop us if a follow and a prime sub, and then we'll do discord after this.
	Um, guys, twitch.tv/slash whatever, drop us a follow in the prime sub.
	Guys, uh, Durin, thank you for the 10 gifted.
	Lazy Toaster, thank you for the prime.
	Guys, it's been six minutes since we last got a prime sub.
	Uh, I think it's bugged.
	Help, by the way, guys, just to be clear, because I think some people, maybe my delivery is a little uh uh dry, it's obviously a bit.
	I don't, I'm not actually thinking it's bugged.
	Like, people think I'm being like sus I is it is it not clear, Nick and Maddie?
	Like, is it not clear?
	At first, I thought it was unclear, but I thought it was unclear.
	Now I get it.
	Like, I thought people got that it was a bit, but then now I'm like, people are thinking that I'm like trying to abuse, like, I'm playing a, like it's a ploy, yeah, like I'm frauding, but I thought it was super obvious that it's a bit.
	I don't know, yo, Hugh, thank you for the prime, man.
	Appreciate it.
	I took it like that.
	I thought my delivery made it seem like, especially since we do it every time.
	Yeah, I thought people would get that it's a bit, but I don't know.
	Apparently, some people are like, Brian is defrauding his, he's trying to bait people.
	I'm like, no, it's a bit.
	Okay, whatever.
	Discord, guys, discord.gg slash whatever drops a follow in the prime sub.
	Guys, we post the BTS stuff.
	Post the BTS stuff.
	Oh, they played.
	That's weird.
	On the Desiree one.
	Guys, discord.gg slash whatever.
	Join the Discord, guys.
	Join the Discord, boys.
	We got almost 10k members on the Discord.
	We need you boys on there.
	Discord.gg slash whatever.
	Easy.
	Easy.
	Okay.
	Come back.
	Boom.
	Maddie, can you read this one?
	Brian, this is your self-appointed health coach per your request.
	Time to lose some weight, Fatty.
	Yo, Brian is so fat that he goes to a restaurant, looks at the menu, and says, okay.
	Damn, bro.
	Roasted.
	Damn.
	That was, hold on.
	Hold on, bro.
	That was funny.
	Damn, bro.
	It's me.
	Damn.
	You're right, dude.
	I need to lose weight.
	Don't forget how much influence TV and social media has on socializing men and women.
	Yo, name taken.
	Thank you for the message, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	We pirate, thank you for the message.
	Appreciate it, even though you roasted me.
	Thank you, bro.
	Appreciate it, guys.
	Thank you for the messages.
	Maddie, next one.
	Women can talk about custody unless you have an NDA.
	Slash, also, all men don't want their woman in a bikini.
	Real men won't let you go clubbing or have girls' nights out.
	We know that they are our standards.
	Yo, Craig, thank you for the message, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	And yeah, I think, you know, maybe I don't know what percentage of men would be cool with it.
	Maybe some guys just don't care.
	Probably most guys don't care, actually.
	What do you guys think?
	Do you think most men don't care?
	Yeah.
	My husband wouldn't care.
	Do you think it's like a small minority of men like me who give a shit about this?
	My husband wouldn't care.
	I mean, he would care if I went clubbing.
	Yeah.
	That's girls' night out.
	When are you going?
	Are you going again next week?
	What do we have?
	Yeah.
	Even like, are you going with Jordan?
	All right.
	We have Maddie.
	Can you?
	Oh, wait.
	Oh, we still need to go around on this one.
	Let me read the Maddie.
	Could you read this?
	The Word of God talks about all sorts of extraterrestrials.
	Also, we haven't discovered billions of galaxies.
	There's just a physical dome over the earth.
	Amos 96.
	And well met.
	Lol, Paladin's donated $200.02.
	It's simply anything that gives her power as good...
	Anything that benefits a man is bad.
	It is about trust and the fact that she can go out to shop around and you won't leave.
	She trusts you're a cuck.
	She's back there eating.
	She heard it.
	Law Paladins.
	She'll address that.
	She's coming back right now.
	She's eating some.
	What is she eating?
	What are you eating?
	Salad.
	Salad?
	Actually, typical.
	Are you vegan too?
	Not a vegan?
	Okay.
	Just checking.
	It's okay.
	Any vegans here?
	Liz?
	Jordan?
	Crazy.
	Ava?
	Morgan?
	Morgan's a protein shake enjoyer.
	We love a good protein shake.
	She's a protein shake enjoyer.
	Protein anything.
	Law Paladin.
	Protein anything.
	Where was it?
	This one?
	Did we?
	Hold on.
	How many galaxies?
	Billions.
	It is estimated that there are between 200 billion to 2 trillion galaxies.
	Really?
	That gives.
	Does that ever.
	You ever think of something really, really big and it makes you uncomfortable?
	And not talking about talking about.
	Like, so big that you think, wow, I'm just a speck of dust.
	It makes me uncomfortable.
	Yeah.
	Like something that big.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Existential drink.
	Take a breath.
	Shake it off.
	Okay.
	What's a parsec?
	Most galaxies are 1,000 to 100,000 parsecs.
	I don't know.
	Let's not bring sex into this universe.
	Okay.
	2 billion.
	200 billion to 2 trillion galaxies.
	How many planets?
	Planets in the universe?
	How many?
	How do people know that, though?
	What changes do?
	Science.
	Whatever.
	Maybe the chat can help.
	Like, is that just an educated guess?
	Okay.
	We have pelagic.
	Sorry, I mentioned pelagic.
	Never ever explain yourself.
	This came in about 20 minutes ago.
	Not sure what it's related to.
	Oh, probably when I was just like, just no.
	Just no.
	That's it, right?
	Ladies, what do you guys?
	I don't know.
	It was mostly me and her.
	Is just no sufficient enough?
	So I don't know that no would be sufficient enough, but I'd be impressed if I even got that kind of a conversation out of my husband.
	What you two were doing back and forth?
	That was good?
	No, I'm saying that's unrealistic.
	Oh, what do you mean?
	What she was hoping to get from you?
	I wasn't giving enough.
	Or I was giving too much.
	No, like what she was asking of you was men don't do what you did.
	Yeah, they don't.
	Yeah.
	Which is indicated to the extent of what you gave her when she kept coming back.
	Oh, I gave her.
	I'm saying you gave her enough.
	You gave enough.
	I'm saying men don't normally do that.
	They don't normally give enough.
	I'm saying I'm impressed that you even did that, and most men are not going to do this.
	You're saying most men, just like after the third, like, well, I still need to know a little bit, they just punch the wall.
	They punch a fucking hole through the wall.
	Brian's smarter than that.
	They'd just be like, I'm done.
	And leave the room.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	They're just like, I think that's a second conversation.
	I think the initial no, she's going to do what she's going to do, if you're still there when she comes home.
	I think that's a second conversation to have later.
	Was being abusive.
	Pearl, did you hear that, Pearl?
	No, I was.
	I forgot what I said.
	Pearl, you are abuser.
	You abused me, Pearl.
	Just men getting.
	Eat your macaroni or whatever.
	To get into the feelings that much, especially not initially so right.
	I was emotionally abused by Pearl the moment you come back.
	I think you might have to be able to do it.
	Wait a minute, you're getting disconstrued in me.
	I need the co-sign.
	Watch the tape.
	Roll the tape back.
	I need the cosign from all the table here.
	I need an apology from Pearl.
	She was emotionally and mentally and spiritually abusive.
	Well, but at the same time, you were role-playing.
	She wasn't really.
	She was working you.
	It was real.
	Me and Pearl, we had eye contact.
	I felt it.
	Yeah, we all felt it.
	We had a moment.
	I feel like an abusive moment on Pearl's behalf.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Look at this abuser coming back.
	Chat, welcome back, the abuser.
	Oh, my goodness.
	No, honestly, my husband will leave the room and I would just put on Grey's Anatomy and leave the room.
	Like mine would.
	Like, he would be like, listen, no, it's no.
	And he'd leave.
	And then I'd watch now.
	So I get a little, do I get credit?
	I get a little credit then.
	I give you some credit for going, for trying to satisfy what she was trying to do.
	Getting deep conversations from a man is work.
	Yeah.
	Because they don't know how to go really deep.
	And to even get that out of a guy you're dating, let alone expect to get that out of your husband.
	Wait, what is that Patrice O'Neill bit when it comes to dating?
	It's like we don't want to be alone.
	We just want you around.
	Wait, hold on.
	Patrice alone around.
	It goes.
	Yeah, I couldn't do that.
	Men want to be alone, but we don't.
	Wait.
	Men want to be alone, but we don't want to be by ourselves.
	Does that make sense?
	I feel like the first time a little bit.
	Yeah.
	Probably.
	Yeah.
	Building.
	Men want to be alone, but we don't want to be by ourselves.
	Like we want you, we want you around the corner.
	I think that's what he says.
	Yeah, I know.
	I'm doing the bit.
	You want us there when you want us?
	Like around the corner.
	Right.
	Then you want us there.
	But you don't always want us there.
	Like in the house, but not in the streets.
	You want us there?
	I'm not saying that in the middle of the day.
	But not like right there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's always nice.
	That's a flaw, though, to be honest.
	Probably.
	Maybe not.
	Just kidding.
	Humans are flawed.
	Where we're, oh, we got to get through more of the chats.
	Hold on, guys.
	One second here.
	So.
	Wait, was there one that came through for you?
	But you were back there.
	You heard it.
	You heard them.
	I do feel a little bit abused, though.
	I just want to let you know.
	I'm so sorry.
	And that's how I feel.
	Girl, I didn't say that.
	I didn't say that.
	I didn't mean why you thought that.
	I did, though.
	She didn't.
	He thought what did it say?
	When you do that, I feel this way.
	Okay.
	I feel like.
	I'm sorry you feel that way.
	I know.
	I just find it funny how.
	This is the covert narcissistic woman, Brian.
	They look to devour you.
	I mean, like a good devourer or a bad devourer.
	Probably bad, as he's calling it.
	Hail and well met.
	Lol Paladin's donated $200.02.
	She is allowed to go out by herself, dressed however she wants.
	And when she comes back, she can collect her stuff and go live with her new boyfriend.
	Good luck.
	Hopefully, he treats you better.
	Bye.
	Listen, gentlemen, she can do what she wants.
	And you can also not be in a relationship with her anymore.
	I agree with that stuff.
	That's fair.
	I think everyone should be with the kind of person they want to be with.
	I do kind of low-key think I need a slave, though, in a relationship.
	I mean, case in point.
	You want to be with someone who wants a female slave?
	Be with Brian, everybody.
	I think it's a good arrangement.
	Yeah, it is.
	If you want to be a female slave, be with Brian because that's what he wants.
	I don't really ask.
	What arrangement?
	I'm pretty low maintenance.
	You don't really offer it.
	At all, you want to really offer the 50 shades.
	A great thing going on, though.
	Yeah, I think that that was a beautiful, beautiful thing that you just said.
	That was so beautiful because that's really what you want.
	And that's like the essence of this vibe in this show.
	And that's like 50 shades.
	I think that that really demonstrates this show, who you are, the people you attract.
	Like, if you want that, that's this vibe.
	She should be on the first date willing to deep clean your house, is all I'm saying.
	Yeah, exactly.
	If you want to be like that, be with someone like Brian.
	That's exactly what it is.
	Is that a date or an appointment?
	A cleaning appointment.
	Hired a meeting.
	I'd be like, same time tomorrow.
	You know what's so crazy is that, like, tell me what's so crazy.
	The way that my man treats me and how he honors and respects me makes me want to deep clean his home.
	Like, literally, it makes me want to do that.
	But if he was like, I want a woman who wants to deep clean my home, I'd be like, oh, I don't think that this is the vibe for us.
	But how my man approaches me, I'm just like, wow, you just like, you listen to me, you honor me, you respect me, like, you have conversation with me.
	Like, I'm just, it literally inspires me to want to deep clean his home.
	And I have what?
	So you'd be you're willing to deep clean.
	Oh, 100%.
	I desire to.
	You desire to.
	I desire to cook for him, to clean for him, to huck to honestly, all of it.
	What is that?
	It's basically give a blow to him.
	There's this guy doing an interview.
	No.
	Maybe you never mind him.
	Maybe that's a good guy.
	But the moment that a guy wants to want them.
	But not express it to you directly.
	I'm a little confused then.
	No, he can express that he likes it.
	But I think what's better is like he just treats me.
	What I like, what I personally want in my relationship is to not have somebody who wants to or expresses like, I want female slavery.
	Like I don't like that energy and I don't like that vibe, which means we're incompatible, which is totally fine.
	What I like is when a man is so masculine, but also has some feminine qualities that's like listens to me and understands me and like is kind and nurturing in his own way.
	Of course, not like 90% of the way.
	90% of the time, I want him to be out there working, being his like masculine leader stuff, playing like planning dates, whatever.
	And then, but he also has a little bit of like listening to me and caring for me.
	And then that just, it makes me want to clean his whole house.
	It does.
	It inspires me to do that.
	That's how like most of those dynamics work out, though.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I really enjoy it.
	Like the traditional.
	He's never explained.
	He's never once said, I want a woman who cleans my house.
	Never once said that.
	But you know what I'm doing?
	But he's thinking.
	He can be thinking it.
	And what he does is he shows me through his actions that he cares about me, that he respects me, that he honors me.
	And it inspires me to want to do whatever I can to make his life easier and better.
	Well, this would be almost like saying, well, a girl doesn't want a guy to be a provider, doesn't want a guy to pay for first dates.
	But in so doing, by her not really caring about that, she ends up receiving it.
	So she doesn't care about that, doesn't want it, but the guy will still, because she doesn't want it, the guy wants to give it to her more.
	Which actually makes a little bit of sense.
	Except in the case for you, you're very vocal about your desire for men to pay for dates.
	I mean, it's not about, it's about the way in which you vocalize it, is what I think.
	Like, for instance, saying female slave versus like, I really enjoy when like a woman likes and thinks about how to make my life easier.
	And then it'd be like, oh, how could I do that?
	And it'd be like, oh, like, I'm really busy.
	Like, I don't, you know, have time to clean my house.
	So, like, that would just make me feel really good and happy.
	It's about how you communicate it.
	And yes, I will say that a lot of men actually aren't that good at that, which is not their fault because we socialize men to not really be able to communicate with like that much like emotional dynamism.
	Or are they just naturally like that?
	I feel like they're just naturally like that.
	No, they are.
	I mean, they are naturally and also socialized.
	It's both.
	But at the end of the day, hot take.
	Men are better communicators than women, hot take.
	They're more direct communicators.
	That's good communication.
	That's what thank you for proving.
	Thank you for making my argument for me.
	Yeah, men are more direct communicators.
	Yeah.
	But they're not as like expansive.
	They don't get into like as many details.
	They're not as thorough.
	Thorough.
	Yeah, with their.
	No, I mean, I see what you're saying, but you got to understand also, like, when I say, when I use the term slave, like, it's a bit tongue-in-cheek to degree.
	I'm not like that.
	Although, if a girl was like down to be a slave, I'm not going to say no.
	I'm not going to say no.
	I'm not going to turn her away and be like, Brian, I will do anything you ask.
	I will everything.
	I'm not going to say no to that.
	I think men communicate and speak.
	I think men communicate and speak very directly because they think very directly.
	Like, their brains are not orchestrated how ours are.
	When they ask us, how's our day?
	We're going to tell them, what happened when supermarket?
	And I found this, and this is on sale.
	Oh, yeah, and I met this girl, and I got her number, and we're going to meet at Starbucks.
	And oh, yeah, I found this book.
	He's going to tell me, my day went fine.
	He's like, it's good.
	Yeah, we're not.
	That's, I mean, men are very simple creatures and they think how they speak and they speak how they think.
	Yeah, we're not going to include all this flowery language and like exposition and a preamble.
	But that doesn't make it better than women.
	Intro, outro.
	But it's just different.
	It's different than women.
	I think men and women need to understand that we communicate differently and kind of meet each other a little bit in the middle.
	Salubrious.
	Yeah.
	Salubrious.
	Sorry, I heard this new word salubrious, and I'm trying to find a way to say it.
	What does it mean?
	It means pleasant, not of a place.
	Pleasant, not run down.
	Pleasant to great.
	Maybe I got to start saying I need a salubrious.
	Women do wish for men to be more elaborate, and men wish for women to be more direct.
	And we're always trying to find that center balance.
	That's beautiful, George.
	All right.
	Who cares?
	Have Maddie.
	Oh, go ahead, Maddie.
	Read it.
	That's written in Hmong, but I don't know how to pronounce it.
	I can try.
	Disappointing.
	Go ahead.
	Try.
	Ka pa na ga.
	No.
	Hai tau.
	I don't know how to do this, guys.
	I also can't see the end of it.
	Do you understand this?
	Lo see.
	This is okay.
	I've never seen she read it.
	How I would read it, too.
	I think some of these aren't even like regular words.
	I don't either.
	I understand.
	Yeah, she doesn't seem to.
	I understand a little, but.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Who cares?
	Appreciate it.
	When it reveals itself, wait, did we read this one?
	I feel like a failure.
	Did we read this one?
	I don't know.
	I think so.
	I think we need Pearl to read it.
	Go ahead, Pearl.
	Brian, understand manipulation when it reveals itself.
	This type of woman is very dangerous.
	I can see it.
	Once they have you emotionally, they have you for the taking.
	Facts.
	You know what, Pearl?
	You're going to have to redeem yourself from the abuse.
	I need you to sing the queen of the night aria.
	Do it.
	Do it.
	Oh, we're not even in a relationship, and you're saying, do it, and you expect me to just say, shoot!
	Just do it!
	No, you shouldn't have encrypted.
	I'm not going to do it.
	This plays until you.
	Audio?
	Is it messed up?
	Just audio.
	Do it!
	Make your dreams come true!
	We don't, it doesn't stop until you start.
	Go ahead.
	I think men and women.
	Wait, that's not.
	Wait, is that it?
	Yeah, nothing is impossible.
	I feel like he's looking at me like And you're not gonna stop there Wow, and actually he's gonna keep It's most personal Do it!
	Just do it!
	Yes, you can!
	Just do it!
	I feel a motivated right now.
	Thank you, Shia.
	Appreciate it, dude.
	Thank you for helping us.
	We tried.
	We tried, Shia.
	We tried.
	Maddie, actually, Jordan's going to read these.
	Premise of the.
	For the forum, what is the number one thing men do in a relationship that is the number one flag to end it?
	And do you think that reason is the national is happening?
	I think you need to work on your grammar and wording.
	Do you think that reason is going to be a little bit more?
	What is your name?
	I think they need to hammer and spelling how you phrase things.
	Number one.
	What's the question?
	Okay, so here, we'll just do.
	What is the number one thing men do in a relationship that is a red flag?
	That is a red flag?
	I got it.
	I'll be back.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead, ladies.
	Speak amongst yourself.
	Why don't we go this way?
	I've been talking a lot.
	Facts.
	Okay.
	You.
	Me?
	You first.
	I don't think I really care about this that much, but just not listening, you know?
	Just listening to you talk.
	Even if it's like bullshit.
	I think every woman just wants to be heard, but act of listening too.
	Like just being heard, but actually listening, responding, nodding, showing that you're actually present.
	Yeah, but I also understand that's not the way men work.
	So I'm like okay with it.
	I don't really care that much, but I think that's a big reason why a lot of people break up these days.
	Well, I think men can learn from women and women can learn from men.
	So men can learn to listen.
	Agreed.
	I think my biggest red flag is just lying.
	Smell gasoline.
	Yeah, I would probably say the same thing as lying.
	A lot of men lie these days.
	From my experience.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Lying definitely.
	What does it mean?
	Because then it creates a lack of trust.
	So once trust is broken, it's not easy to get back.
	And then the man will have to work extra, extra hard to get that trust back.
	Or a woman.
	Yeah, I mean, it definitely goes both ways.
	For sure.
	Okay, you go.
	I don't know what you guys are talking about.
	Like a red flag.
	Big red flag from a man in a relationship.
	Or just like why you think people are breaking up.
	I think people are breaking up because they always think they can find someone better, but it's not realistic.
	True.
	Oof.
	I agree.
	I haven't heard that one.
	Oh, look at that.
	Look at that.
	Were you guys just not talking while we're doing this?
	No, wait, no, we're all going around.
	I'm more of a woman than all of you.
	It was the poetry of it.
	The meme.
	No, the I. Have you seen Ice H?
	Okay, Peter.
	Yeah, you know what?
	What is it going to take?
	That's you, homogeneous.
	The magic flute.
	What's it going to take, Pearl?
	Maybe if you double how much you're paying me to be on here.
	Wait, I didn't get that.
	I'll definitely do that.
	All right, go for it.
	A big red flag is a guy with bad hygiene.
	Wait, did we not even finish going around on that?
	Yeah.
	Wait, but you didn't go.
	I have a bit of a hot take that might be surprising with the lying one.
	I think that lying is a huge red flag, definitely.
	And sometimes I do feel like men lie because women don't know how to handle the truth.
	Oof.
	I do actually think that.
	That's valid.
	Would you rather hear a lie?
	I would rather hear the truth, and even if it's hard.
	Like, I think that men are like, oh, you're the only girl for me.
	But if they really said the truth, which is just, listen, I kind of just want to fuck.
	Like, I don't think that girls would be cool with that.
	You know what I mean?
	But then I think everyone just needs to tell the truth, learn how to handle the truth, and then go their separate ways if they don't want the same thing.
	But nobody knows how to do that.
	Brian, what's your red flag in a girl?
	Hmm.
	Hold on, let me pull up my list.
	We must know.
	Okay.
	Wait, hold on.
	Oh, I know what it is.
	What is it?
	Unwillingness to bow to you.
	Yeah, that's pretty.
	Right when he walks in the door.
	Let me give.
	Okay, I'll do a couple.
	I'll approach this from a few angles.
	Let's talk career.
	I'll just throw a few out there.
	Hair stylist works in HR.
	Those are two sets.
	I kind of strung that sentence together, but flight attendant, travel nurse, nurse.
	Any career where she travels frequently.
	Broken skin.
	Sternum tattoo.
	Sorry.
	Let's see.
	All of her other qualities make up for it.
	I'm going to lose some audience.
	If she owns a pit bull.
	Oh, boy.
	That's going to.
	She owns a wet bull.
	Why?
	That's so ramped up.
	Why is that?
	I don't know.
	I have opinions on pit bulls.
	Like safety?
	It's definitely a controversial opinion on the pit bull thing.
	Well, also, just like a lot of women get these big dogs that they cannot physically restrain.
	And women, no offense to women.
	Men fuck up a lot too when it comes to training dogs, but like women are a lot more lax when it comes to the training of their pets.
	Yeah.
	So killer of cereal donated $200.
	If all men had some form of mental illness and you had to choose to date from these three PTSD schizophrenia bipolar disorder, which one would you rather date?
	People saying in the chat it's not the breed, it's the owner.
	Yeah, the difference is though, when there's a poorly trained chihuahua, the amount of damage they can inflict on somebody kind of minimal.
	It's true.
	They're annoying.
	They yap a lot.
	They do bite.
	Chihuahuas are very aggressive.
	But a chihuahua can't kill you.
	It's true.
	I've been bent by the ball.
	Although now somebody's going to turn this around and make it like the gun art bring it to the gun argument, blah, blah, blah.
	But I mean, dog, it doesn't map on one-to-one.
	Doesn't map on one-to-one.
	Okay, whatever.
	Where were we?
	Oh, bell bottoms.
	She wears bell bottoms, red flag.
	Oh.
	Looks at her phone on the first date.
	She does acro-yoga.
	Oh, my God.
	Big red flag.
	Why?
	Oh, my.
	Have you seen those videos?
	Anything but lift weights, I swear.
	Dude.
	You want to talk about bikini at a pool party?
	Nah.
	Let's talk about acro-yoga.
	If your girl is going to acro-yoga, she's done.
	What's going on?
	Done.
	Doomed forever.
	Okay.
	Van Lifer.
	Red flag.
	What?
	Van Lifer.
	What is that?
	Oh, she lives in a van.
	I thought that was a good idea.
	Big red flag if she's a land van lifer.
	It means that she hooks up with men to use their shower facilities/slash bed.
	What?
	If you see a girl on a dating app and she's doing van life, I'm in town for the weekend.
	She fucks.
	She fucks.
	She posts more than three Instagram stories a day.
	What?
	She posts more than three Instagram stories a day.
	Why the number three?
	What's that?
	Aren't you constantly on social media?
	Not you personally, but like.
	Me?
	Yeah.
	On my personal Instagram, I don't post any stories.
	Okay, let me ask you guys a question.
	You've never seen that person that posts like 30 stories a day?
	Is this person never not crazy?
	The 30 stories a day?
	They have mental health.
	They're crazy.
	30 is different than four, though.
	Unless you're trying to run.
	That's fair.
	That's fair.
	I get what you're saying, though.
	Like, it's a lot.
	See, my stories, though, are like business.
	That's fine.
	I give Liz the pass.
	Liz gets the pass.
	I was like, I have to pass.
	I was going to say, yeah, do you post for bite?
	Yeah, for the channel.
	And if she has a lot of posts on Instagram.
	Like, a thousand plus.
	Yeah, that's doing the most.
	That applies to guys, too.
	Yeah.
	Like, anybody who has a thousand posts on Instagram.
	Honestly, if a guy has a ton of selfies, red flag.
	Like, dude, that's fem.
	I should look at my Instagram.
	I got a couple.
	I only have like Friends doing P-signs.
	I know.
	He's all like a Facebook mom.
	I can grow my mom.
	Can I say one weird red flag that I thought of?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Oh, yeah, go for it.
	It's when a guy will post pictures or send you pictures of himself, and it's like the worst quality.
	Like they're using some random flip phone.
	Like a potato.
	Yeah.
	I don't know why.
	Where are they coming from?
	What?
	Raise your standards.
	Yeah.
	All right, let's read.
	Can you read this one?
	Or Ava?
	Let's do Ava.
	Ava, go ahead.
	I can't see it.
	You can't see?
	All right, get this girl a spectacle.
	What is it?
	What is it?
	Oculus?
	Monica, thank you, Doesn't it?
	If you want to raise another man's kid, date a woman like this, she'll go get pregnant off someone else while singing about how inspired she is by your feminine energy, bro.
	Run quick.
	Run, baby, who's this?
	Is it?
	This is that.
	Who's this directed to?
	I think it's at you.
	Because singing.
	Yeah.
	She also said the feminine energy thing.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Can you read this one?
	Look, honestly, women need to answer to their man.
	Even says it in the Bible.
	The only thing a real man wants is low body count, peace, and sub.
	Real men are not feminine.
	Femman equals not protecting.
	People use the Bible for their advantage.
	That's so nice.
	They really seem to forget the more important part of that Bible verse.
	Right?
	The husband needs to love his wife as Christ left the church.
	Absolutely.
	Well, going back to the chat from Tank here, though, he says feminine man equals not protecting.
	Me and Jordan have tangoed on this one.
	Look, I think the woman should take the bullet.
	On that note, I have to use restroom.
	Peace out.
	Did you hear her take off in her car, like out the window?
	So, anyways, next super chat, next chat.
	So, Philip Cereal.
	Oh, wait, this already came through, right?
	Wait, did this come through?
	We didn't answer it, though.
	Oh, which would you rather?
	You had some form of mental illness.
	And you have to choose to date from these three PTSD schizophrenia bipolar disorder.
	Which one would you rather date?
	I feel like PTSD.
	Yeah.
	It depends how schizophrenia is.
	Because it'd be so exciting.
	PTSD is for like one thing.
	Yeah, it's like one thing.
	I feel like I'd be able to handle that.
	I would do bipolar.
	Because actually, I mean, I have family members who have that.
	And if you're on the right medication and you can live a pretty normal life.
	PTSD, you almost can never fully get away from that.
	I mean, you can go through therapy, but things can just set you off.
	I think I would.
	I think I got.
	Oh, do we.
	I'll let the.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	We all pretty much answered.
	I'm good.
	Oh, did everybody answer?
	Schizophrenia.
	I think I would take PTSD.
	Because it would be so exciting.
	You'd be seeing stuff.
	He would be imagining things.
	It would be crazy.
	Yo, chat.
	What do you pick?
	Chat, what do you pick?
	PTSD, schizo, or bi.
	She's like, it's because I have it.
	I think I have to pick PTSD.
	So confusing.
	I think I'd take PTSD.
	Schizo.
	Bipolar.
	I don't know.
	We've had some.
	I've met bipolar girls, even if they're medicated.
	There's a little something still not going.
	You know?
	Maybe they weren't on the road.
	His voice was so drinking illnesses.
	His voice is shaking.
	I feel like it's really sad to reduce people to their illnesses to say that they don't deserve or need a romantic partner.
	Well, I didn't say that.
	Although I do believe in miracles.
	I'm not saying that to you.
	I'm saying it.
	I'm feeling them.
	To them.
	I don't know.
	Wait, I actually argue with you on this.
	I actually think, well, I think it's totally fine if somebody, on the basis alone of somebody's mental health diagnosis, if they don't want to date them because of that, that's totally fine.
	But I don't know if that's exactly what you're arguing.
	Or.
	I just would feel, I just personally would feel bad for somebody who's watching who has bipolar.
	And by one of us saying that they wouldn't date a bipolar person for this reason, that reason, the other reason, like, I feel like that would make that person feel like we're saying they don't deserve.
	Because I feel like the question is kind of in a derogatory way.
	I thought you were going to say it makes them feel bad.
	And I was about to say.
	So let me give an example.
	I have diabetes and I am very, very aware that people probably don't want to pass it on to their children and this reason and that reason.
	They don't want to live with the lifestyle.
	So they wouldn't date me for that reason.
	I personally wouldn't be hurt, but I'm sure there are like a million other diabetics who'd be like, why are you not going to date me just because I can't eat sugar or carbs or break it down?
	You know what I mean?
	Well, I don't know if, I mean, diabetes, I don't know if it compares to like more mental health thing.
	But I don't even think, I mean, I mean, if somebody didn't want to date you because you had diabetes, I don't think there's actually anything wrong with that.
	I don't, I don't.
	Nothing wrong with it.
	I don't either.
	I just would hate for other people who are seeing it to feel like lesser than because of something they can't control, if that makes sense.
	I'm just vouching for those people.
	There's a bunch of short guys that can't control their height.
	Short kings.
	But plenty of women don't want to date them because they're short.
	Yeah, but they're kings.
	It's literally an insult followed by a compliment.
	I actually got a bit of flack because this must have been two or three months ago.
	I said that I do think it's, I don't know exactly how I framed it, but I said something along the lines of my advice to men would be you should not date women who are bipolar.
	I got a lot of flack from.
	I think the mom was bipolar and stabs.
	The attempted murder chick, yeah.
	Got pushback from her, got pushback from the bipolar community.
	Look, these people are certainly deserving of compassion and empathy, and I wish them the best in dealing with their diagnosis.
	But I don't actually think it's wrong to give prescriptive advice to say, for example, I do think it's suboptimal to date somebody who has a certain diagnosis.
	And I think it'd be a disservice to my viewers and audience to like choose to omit having the conversation of, guys, you probably shouldn't date women who have BPD.
	Shouldn't date women who have XYZ diagnosis.
	I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
	I don't think you should insult these people.
	I don't think you should be mean to them.
	I don't think you should belittle them.
	But I think it's a disservice to like ignore the impact that these things could have in a relationship.
	Yeah.
	I totally, I totally respect that.
	I just don't want people to get hurt.
	I just don't want to hurt people's feelings like point blank, which is, which is, I'm sorry.
	Look, look, if somebody's fine with dating them, they're willing to date them.
	I'm not saying that they aren't deserving of love or that they should just stay, be alone for their whole life.
	God damn, is that Air Force One?
	What the fuck?
	Joe Biden was in town last week, so I don't know, maybe he's still kicking it in Santa Barbara.
	I thought it was good we're good do you think it should be disclosed if you're dating somebody Yeah, I think you should disclose.
	What?
	Should we disclose?
	I think even something as minor as depression and anxiety should also be disclosed.
	Everything.
	Yeah.
	They got to know what they're getting into, definitely.
	Word.
	Yeah, you got to disclose.
	And then if you're married and something comes up later, this comes back to the whole Tildest Apart.
	Yeah, you deal with it.
	You deal with it.
	If somebody later gets schizophrenia as they get older or something, they go in the military, they get deployed, they come back, and they have that, you don't just leave them.
	You stick with them as far as you can.
	Now, there's, never know how far that goes, but that's the whole point of Tildestew Park.
	Although I wonder, I mean, what if the mental illness starts manifesting itself in abusive behavior?
	Right, well that's what I mean in that if it goes in certain directions where your health and your safety now is in jeopardy.
	Okay.
	Word.
	Let's see.
	What other chats do we have?
	Oh wait, we got here.
	Maddie, can you read?
	It says, these women here want a slave to use their money.
	It's actually mom, but no disrespect to Maddie.
	I said it was.
	Just thought it'd be fun for her to read her language.
	I'm mom too.
	So I'm a failure.
	You're a failure.
	Yeah.
	Okay, appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Who cares?
	Oh, this is a great time.
	Stiffler, ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten, starting with Pearl.
	Take it away, Pearl.
	So are you asking me how symmetrical my body is and like if I have the ideal hip to waist ratio?
	Is that this question?
	Or is it how do I perceive my own self?
	Or is it how do I perceive men perceiving me?
	Because what they're thinking about is that I like this.
	We're communicating.
	This is good.
	It's good.
	Pretty straightforward.
	Communicating.
	Okay, sure.
	So I'll break it down into three ways.
	Rate your face out of 10, rate your body out of 10, and rate total out of 10.
	My face and my body in total, meaning how other people perceive me, how I perceive myself, or how symmetrical I am.
	Well, so my worldview is it's this, that's all the same.
	Okay, so you have to direct worldview.
	I perceive myself as a 10.
	Okay.
	You want to do breakdown, face, body, total?
	It's all total 10.
	Face 10.
	I perceive my perceive myself as a 10 because that's the best way to move through this world.
	How symmetrical I am, the golden ratio, all that stuff.
	I don't know.
	I'd have to get scanned by a machine and then to tell me.
	Yeah, and so to answer the one that you brought up, what about how you think men perceive you?
	I guess I would say that that's subjective and I also don't care and I think that it's not helpful to comment on it or even think about it for a second.
	Why is it not helpful?
	Because I think that women are valued for their looks, especially how men value their looks.
	And I just don't think that that's a helpful conversation.
	And I'm not going to comment on that.
	And I'm sure men would probably, some men would rate me a four, some men would rate me a nine.
	And if we're talking about perfect symmetry, no one is a 10 out of 10.
	And I don't care about that.
	I think that what makes someone beautiful is more holistic.
	So their personality.
	Yeah, everything about them.
	Okay, but so we're talking about looks though.
	Yeah.
	So personality, confidence, these things are relevant.
	I would rate myself a 10.
	If you're asking, do I think men desire me and think I'm just as beautiful as like Gigi Hadid or like all these supermodels?
	Do you think you're as beautiful?
	I think that how people perceive me and how people perceive them is irrelevant.
	No, but do you think you're as beautiful as them?
	I think that I see myself as a 10 and that if they see themselves at a 10, then we're the same.
	But so looking at like a really attractive supermodel, do you make the assessment?
	I'm not assessing at all.
	I don't care.
	Let me ask the question.
	Do you think you're just as good looking, or perhaps even more, as they are?
	What's the point of this question?
	Is it to see how self-aware I am about how symmetrical I am?
	Because that's what it seems to be that this, that this should.
	Because if I rate myself at a 10, y'all are like, oh my god, you're so stupid.
	You're not a 10.
	You think that you're perfectly symmetrical.
	You think you're so beautiful, all this stuff.
	I'm like, if that's the question, then I don't, then I don't know and I don't care.
	If it's how do I perceive myself, it's going to be that I move through the world like I'm a 10.
	But aren't you able to make determinations as to like the physical attractiveness of other women?
	Like, am I more conventionally attractive according to like Eurocentric beauty standards?
	No, that's not even the question.
	I'm just asking, so going back to the 100%.
	Because that's what the essence of it is.
	Why does it have to be Eurocentric?
	Because that's how conventional beauty standards are.
	Name taken, donated $200.
	Thank you, ma'am.
	Ladies, first, we don't care what you rate yourself.
	What would your average rating be on a picture rating website?
	Second, going back to dating red flags, is it a red flag if a man is a Trump voter?
	Here on that second one, just show of hands.
	Red flag if the man's a Trump voter.
	Show of hands.
	What?
	What'd you say?
	Raise it.
	Is it a red flag?
	Oh, if it's a red flag, sorry.
	Show of hands.
	Red flag if he's a Trump voter.
	It's a flag.
	But I don't.
	What does that even mean?
	Like, I don't think it's as black and white as that.
	I'm not like, oh, you voted for Trump.
	Like, oh, I'm never going to see you ever again.
	But I would say, yeah, it kind of depends.
	It kind of depends, I would say.
	I'm wondering.
	Do you prefer your current boyfriend to vote for Kamala or Trump?
	Well, I think when it was Joe Biden and Trump, it was a different story in my opinion.
	Okay, which one?
	But Kamala and Trump, I would probably, I'm like, I would prefer him to vote for Kamala.
	Oh, we're doomed.
	Oh, no.
	Wait, say it one more time, Liz.
	Say it, go ahead.
	I said we're doomed.
	Doomed.
	Okay.
	And then what was it?
	We'll get back.
	Hold on.
	What would your average rating be on the picture rating website?
	Do you want to go for that one?
	I don't care, nor I don't know.
	All right, so going around the table, what do you rate yourself on a scale of one to ten from Stiffler?
	Nine.
	Okay.
	Delusional, ten.
	Realistic, five.
	Okay.
	Well, so which are you?
	I'm realistic.
	Five.
	Okay.
	I would rate myself as a six by like seven.
	Eight.
	Wait, six, seven, five, nine, ten.
	We can't choose seven, actually.
	Is Stacy, are you back?
	Can she hear?
	Is her name Stacy right now?
	What's her name?
	Stacy.
	That's her name, Stacy Rear.
	No, Sarah.
	I'm Stacy.
	Sarah?
	Oh, sorry, sorry.
	Got the tomatoes.
	Sarah.
	One to ten?
	What do you rate yourself on a scale?
	Oh, she's coming back.
	I'll wait till she's back.
	Just rate yourself.
	She's coming back.
	Yeah.
	You can throw out a number and I would say it for you.
	Yeah.
	I think we're all tens, to be honest.
	Just say it into a mind.
	I think we're all tens.
	That's why she got up.
	Yeah.
	No one's nine.
	Okay.
	So you're ten.
	Okay.
	Okay, so ten, nine, ten, all ten.
	Go ahead, Pearl.
	What you got for me?
	I said ten.
	Oh, I thought it sounded like you were about to say something, so.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	Oh, okay.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	I don't think anyone is confused by that.
	Of course.
	Now, going around the table, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
	Better looking.
	I think I'll be aging, and I don't think that.
	I think I'll still have the confidence of a 10.
	That's right.
	Yeah, but so I'm talking about.
	Society will value me less.
	Society will value you less.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	For being a little bit more than that.
	So you're 32.
	Will you be better looking at 42 than you are now at 32?
	I think that this question is like just kind of dumb.
	Why is it dumb?
	Because it doesn't give.
	There's no range.
	There's no scope.
	Like, I'm not even allowed to ask like deeper questions about it.
	It's just like, are you 10?
	Are you?
	It's like deeper.
	What does that even mean?
	Your really deep question.
	It's all.
	I mean, it's just what I already said.
	So, you are allowed to ask your really deep questions.
	Okay, I think that women shouldn't think about rating their beauty at all.
	I think that women should think and walk into rooms and be like, I am a 10.
	And when you think, like I said before, when you believe that you're a 10 and you really act like a 10, you're like, I'm a sexy baddie.
	Then you actually start to become more beautiful.
	You start to take care of your skin.
	You start to take care of your hair.
	When you have a self-image that's high, it actually helps you become more beautiful.
	When you think of yourself as low, then you don't dress as well.
	You tend to not take care of your body as much.
	So I just think that it's better for women to think of themselves as a sexy baddie who's a 10.
	And so you said when a woman walks into a room, let's assume this room is.
	Let's assume this room's a party and party type environment, like a socializing environment.
	There's single men, single women, she's single, whatever.
	Should a woman walk into that room thinking that I'm a 10, of all the single men in here, I can get every single one of them.
	Should she think that?
	Should she think I'm a- Is that what she wants?
	Like, why does she want to get all the men?
	No, no, no, she doesn't want to fuck all the men, but she thinks she could get all the men.
	I think getting all the men is a different question than do you have the confidence of a 10?
	Yeah, sure.
	It's a different question.
	Answer the question, though.
	Do I think that a woman should walk into a room and say, I could get all these men?
	No, I just don't think that that's realistic.
	Well, why is that unrealistic?
	But believing you are the most beautiful woman in the room and you're a 10, why is that realistic?
	I think that it's effective.
	I think it actually having an attitude of I'm a 10 and just not comparing yourself to other people or other women is really helpful for women.
	Is it?
	That's what I believe, and that's what I've experienced.
	When I was like, oh, I'm a six or I'm a five, I acted like a six and a five.
	When I think that I'm a 10, it actually allows me, I work out, I take care of myself, I encourage other women.
	I'm not comparing myself to other women at all.
	Well, I can think, I can make the counter argument here and say that women who are not tens but think they're the tens see no need to improve.
	No, no need to improve themselves, so they won't go to the gym even though they're overweight.
	Do you have any like data on that?
	10 is considered perfection.
	What do you mean data?
	What data like?
	Do you have like any sorts of like?
	Do you know that we have data for your clients?
	No, but i'm just saying both of these things are just opinions.
	That's what we're discussing.
	We're discussing opinions.
	Okay, that's what I think.
	Well, I think the question should be framed a little bit different, just so people understand like we're trying to differentiate, like it's good to be confident, but we're talking about a lot of times women have like overly inflated sense of self and they're not being realistic.
	That's ego though, that's insecurity.
	Actually, that's not true confidence.
	When security says I'm better than all these women, confidence is that.
	That's what you're saying.
	No, it isn't.
	Confidence is saying, I don't care who's in this room.
	I don't care if Bella Hadid is in here.
	I don't care if Kendall Jenner, all the Kardashians are in here.
	I'm a 10 and I'm worthy of being in this room.
	And I'm beautiful, and people will love me and be attracted to me, and I'm attractive and I'm desirable.
	But you don't need to be a 10 to have that feeling.
	It doesn't.
	I mean, if we're talking about being more sexy.
	That's a good point.
	Because I'm sexy and I'm a badass, and I will take anybody on for anything.
	But I will still only rate myself as a six because I'm realistic.
	Well, that's good for you.
	I mean, good for you.
	I think we're trying to figure out, like, okay, out of 100 men, like, what would be your average rating?
	Yeah, if that's the question, then my answer is, I don't give a fuck.
	And I'm not going to answer.
	You got your singing.
	Okay.
	So going back to the aging one, though, better looking at 42 as compared to 32?
	I already answered.
	Yeah, you said it was stupid, but answer the stupid question.
	I think I'm still going to be a 10.
	Okay, what about 20 years' time, 52 as compared to 32?
	I think that physical beauty definitely decreases as you age.
	Yeah, we're talking about physical beauty, looks.
	Yeah, it's probably, it's going to decrease as I age.
	Okay, but it won't decrease until 52, because you said...
	I don't think it's like a science like that, to be honest.
	Well, it's biology, which is a science.
	I took that in high school.
	All right, I think I'm talking too much.
	No, you're doing great.
	Hold on.
	We lose elasticity.
	We lose the load in our face.
	We lose hair.
	Skin sex.
	Skin sacks and wrinkles.
	We gotta lose it.
	Elasticity.
	Yeah, that's wrinkles.
	The skin isn't as smooth, and there's marks on the skin.
	What's the point of the skin?
	Sun damage.
	I'll get to it.
	I'll get to it.
	But last thing with you.
	You're 32.
	Were you better looking, or excuse me, are you better looking now at 32 than you were at 22?
	Yes.
	All right.
	What about you?
	you're 27, uh, will you be, oh, okay.
	I thought.
	You just turned 26 last week.
	Okay, 26.
	Will you be better looking at 36 than you are now at 26?
	Can you either straighten up or just scoot your mic this way a little bit?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Which one?
	I'm going to say no.
	No.
	Okay.
	And were you better looking at 18 as compared to now 26?
	Why not 16?
	You're a minor?
	Huh?
	Probably shouldn't be commenting on your age, on your looks as a moment.
	What's the difference between the two years?
	I thought we were going based off 10 years.
	It doesn't have to be 10 years.
	Okay, so 18 versus now?
	Yeah, that's the question.
	Just clarifying.
	I think I look better now than I did at 18.
	All right.
	What about you?
	You're 27, right?
	Yeah.
	Will you be better looking at 37 as compared to how you are now at 27?
	I think I'll be more mature looking.
	I think I'm.
	That's true.
	I look a lot more younger than my age.
	I hear that a lot.
	And so I won't have as much of a baby face.
	But I don't think I'll be more attractive.
	Okay.
	And then do you think you're better looking at 18 as compared to now at 27?
	No, because I was bigger.
	I had more weight on me.
	Okay.
	So you're 47.
	Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time?
	At 57?
	And then were you better looking at 37 as compared to now at 47?
	Oh, yeah.
	Better looking at 27 as compared to 37?
	No.
	Better looking at 18 as compared to 27?
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Liz, 25.
	Will you be better looking at 35 as compared to now?
	I feel like women look pretty similar.
	Pretty similar?
	Okay.
	Better looking at 45?
	No.
	Okay.
	And then Sarah, will you be better looking in 10 years' time as compared to now at 28?
	I honestly think so.
	I have no confidence at all.
	Sorry, sorry.
	Guys, let her talk.
	It's okay.
	I'm sorry.
	Repeat your answer, please.
	Yeah, I think I will.
	Better looking at 38 versus now at 28.
	What about 48 as compared to 28?
	Probably not.
	Okay.
	And then were you better looking at 18 as compared to now at 28?
	I've been told I look much better now.
	Okay.
	And I would agree so.
	I see.
	Okay.
	And you said you were 10?
	I said everybody.
	You said all women are 10s, I think you said though, right?
	Well, I thought, like, I'm saying all these women are a 10.
	Like, I like you see the full value of all of them and their beauty.
	Yeah.
	I don't.
	You guys are all equivalent when it comes to looks.
	There's not one girl here who's maybe a little better looking than the others.
	Well, we're all of like different shapes, sizes, ages.
	That doesn't, I don't know.
	Can I use somebody?
	I also think that if you place like each individual's like, yes.
	I don't.
	I won't be offended, I promise.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Continue with your point.
	I think if you like placed each individual person in front of like, say, like my, like, so my, for me personally, the people that I've used opinion of me is like my friends, my significant other, and the Lord.
	And I think all of them would say, given what they know about me, that I am like an extremely beautiful person.
	Otherwise, why would they want a relationship with me?
	Well, do you mean like your personality or your looks?
	I think, well, the gods.
	We're talking about looks.
	I was trying to respect the question because the guy put looks in capitals, but I do know that beauty primarily for me has to do with personality values characteristics.
	Like you could be with somebody who's like absolutely gorgeous, but they could be really like inconsiderate, lacking a lot of like values that you lack, so you wouldn't see them as beautiful.
	And I think with wisdom comes confidence that makes a person like uphold themselves.
	And I think I know for a fact that like confident people, there are some people that are not very attractive who have so much confidence that it kind of like amps up their number on the scale.
	Does that make sense?
	Talking about women or men?
	Both.
	Well, while I will agree, well, at least for men, anyways, while I'll agree with you that confidence in men will make a man more attractive in general, I don't think it makes him more physically attractive necessarily.
	Although certainly like, you know, if you carry yourself, I will grant.
	Look, I will grant, for example, somebody who scowls all the time, who's got sour puss on their face, who's frowning a lot, RBF, whatever.
	This person is going to be appraised when we're talking about their looks, is going to be appraised as less physically attractive than somebody who's a bit more bubbly and effervescent and who has a more positive disposition.
	I will grant that having a positive outlook, a positive mental attitude, being happy, smiling, yeah, these things will assist in the appraisal when it comes to looks.
	But not to like a degree where you can take like a really, really unattractive woman and like a who's happy or whatever and like a 10 out of 10 model who's like got RBF or whatever.
	The people like generally speaking, people are still going to praise the woman who's a model as more physically attractive, even if she's kind of got a scowl on her face.
	Yeah.
	Well, like you can be attracted to somebody and it's not physical.
	Like you, I mean, you can feel attraction about somebody's mannerisms or how they speak, their voice, anything.
	Yeah.
	And it might not even be physical.
	And you can find something attractive about them.
	But if we're talking like purely physical attraction, I mean, across the board, people are going to be pretty.
	We have universal standards of what's attractive and what's not for most cases.
	Like symmetry, like women having a small jawline, you know, bigger eyes, higher eyebrows, things like that.
	Flush cheeks.
	Those are like universal standards.
	Well, let me ask this question related to like the aging component.
	Do you think that the average 35-year-old woman is hotter than the average 25-year-old woman?
	Average?
	No.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I actually don't know.
	No?
	No.
	Honestly, yes.
	No.
	No.
	Yes.
	No.
	Yes?
	The average 35 or 45?
	You said 35.
	No, I know, but I'm switching it.
	So do you think the average 45-year-old woman is hotter than the average 25-year-old woman?
	No.
	Anybody, any takers on that one?
	I hope that I beat the average, but I'm going to say.
	Yeah, but it's comparing average to average, right?
	But I'm going to just say, like, average, especially nowadays, people are not aging gracefully.
	We should ask Chat.
	Yo, chat, do you think the average 35-year-old woman is hotter than the average 25-year-old woman?
	I think I don't even need to ask.
	I mean, the answer is obvious.
	The average 25-year-old woman is hotter than the average 35-year-old.
	To men, for sure.
	To women, too?
	25 is like probably.
	25 is prime.
	Yeah.
	Okay, yeah, sure.
	What do you think is prime?
	Between 18 and 25.
	Like, that age range is prime.
	What?
	What's wrong with it?
	You mean an adult woman?
	You mean an adult woman?
	I don't think that's prime.
	Well, I said between 18 and 25.
	That's your looks prime.
	It fluctuates for different.
	Yeah, I guess.
	I guess.
	Like, maybe like now's generation, yeah.
	As opposed to when?
	As opposed to, because I just feel like people now are not aging as well as like our ancestors.
	Oh, I don't know.
	I mean, I don't.
	Have you thought about that?
	But you ever see these old videos of like people in high school in the 90s and they look old.
	They look old.
	I feel like the younger people.
	There's a lot that people are doing today back then to affect your looks.
	Yeah.
	That is altering it.
	So I definitely looked a heck of a lot better in my 30s than I did in my 20s.
	That was my prime.
	Okay.
	But that's for like health reasons or um how I looked.
	Oh, my confidence, how I took care of myself.
	I blossomed in my 30s.
	My 20s, I didn't care so much about myself.
	Here, let me ask a different question: As a woman gets older, do her dating options typically increase or decrease decrease for sure, decrease, decrease.
	Okay, I'll say decrease, Wait, so hold on, though.
	If as a woman gets older, her dating options decrease, doesn't this mean that they're less attractive?
	No, because men know that this older woman has way more standards.
	Oh boy.
	She's way harder to get than the younger, naive.
	This is actually not true at all.
	Really?
	I reject the premise.
	Really?
	With young men like older women who are confident, they know what they want.
	They don't play games.
	Sorry.
	I think older women are easier to get.
	That's what I was just going to say.
	I think as you grow older, the less high standards you have because you're getting older.
	And here's my argument for it.
	If you're not with anyone.
	Like, here's my argument for it, right?
	I mean, they should raise.
	But you're saying, so as women get older, they become harder to get, right?
	Is that what you're saying?
	I don't know where my brain was going with that.
	Sorry.
	I think they are, yes, they're harder to get because these women now have much more standards and they're not willing to put up with games from these young dudes who want to play games.
	So they have much higher standards.
	And even older dudes still play games.
	Okay, so I guess I disagree, though, because so if it was, if it was easier for, so like you're talking, let's talk 35-year-olds, right?
	So you think, for example, a 35-year-old is actually, no, let's do 30 and 20.
	Do you think a 30-year-old man, like the average, average 35-year-old man, and then average 30-year-old women, average 20-year-old woman, who do you think he's gonna have an easier time actually getting?
	The 30-year-old or the 20-year-old?
	Easier?
	Easier time?
	The 20-year-old.
	Yeah, 120.
	No, 100%.
	Because men are not intellectually as men do not intellectually age and mature as fast as women do.
	So they're going to match with somebody who's kind of more on their level, which is going to be the 20-year-old.
	Hold on.
	Younger women are easier to manipulate as well.
	Precisely.
	And mold and shave.
	And she'll put up with a lot of people.
	They're fair enough to the 30-year-old.
	And they don't expect.
	But you're saying, like.
	I would argue.
	I would argue that younger women, if you're an older guy, younger women are harder to get than women your own age.
	What?
	Wait, so the older men don't want women their own age.
	They want younger women.
	Yeah.
	What do you mean?
	Older men want younger women.
	But what I'm saying is, in order for a 30-year-old guy to date a 20-year-old, he can't just be the average 30-year-old guy.
	For him to be able to attract a 20, like a 20-year-old, he's going to have to bring, like, he's going to have to be attractive, exceedingly attractive in some metric.
	Yes.
	Yeah, he's got to bring something.
	He's got to bring it.
	He's got to bring money.
	He's got to race a nice car.
	He's got to bring it together.
	It would be different if it was just like a one-night stand.
	It's like, okay, yeah, whatever.
	But if they're looking to like date, then like, yeah, she's going to look for something.
	Okay, like he could, but he could have, he could hook up pretty easily.
	Yeah.
	He could hook up pretty easily.
	With a no.
	Any average 30-year-old?
	It's not true.
	I think it's true.
	Do you think it on that?
	Do you think a 30-year-old has a better chance fucking a 20-year-old than another 30-year-old?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Maybe a 25-year-old.
	Maybe Jeffrey.
	Maybe that's your experience or something?
	No, it's, I would argue most men aren't, most 30-year-old men are not going to be attractive enough to a 20.
	Because like, here's the thing.
	I would argue that a 20-year-old woman is going to need a lot more for her to be willing to date that 30-year-old.
	Like, he can't just be, if she's an average 20-year-old, he's going to have to like excel in some sort of metric of attraction to be able to date her.
	But he's 30.
	But like, intellectually, he's like 25.
	So he's going to go for the 20-year-old.
	Okay, she's five years younger.
	Looks play a huge thing.
	Looks play a huge thing here, though.
	Because your average 20-year-old, if she's not very, I don't want to say not very attractive, but if she definitely is not the girl who got the guys all the time, she is going to easier be with that 30, their average 30-year-old.
	If you're someone who's always been able to get the guy because you're just hot, then you're not going to go for that average 30-year-old unless he's got something to bring.
	Now, if he's a hot 30-year-old, then yes.
	Can I ask play huge?
	What's up?
	I want to ask her a personal question.
	Are you like pretty younger than your husband?
	Yeah, seven years younger.
	Okay.
	Because I was just seeing where your head was at with the saying how they're a lot less mature.
	And this is true, though.
	Men mature a lot slower than women do.
	Also, you mentioned younger women are easier to manipulate, but then you also said that women, as they age, have less options.
	You remember saying that?
	So aren't you harder to manipulate if you have more options?
	And don't the people that have more options tend to be younger women?
	And so.
	Aren't you harder to manipulate when you have more options?
	If you have more options, you're harder to manipulate.
	100%.
	That's correlated.
	100%.
	I don't think that that's correlated.
	For example.
	I don't agree with the premise.
	Okay, cool.
	So you're saying men like younger women because younger women are easier to manipulate.
	I think that's easier to get.
	You said manipulate, so I'll go with that.
	Oh, yeah, manipulate.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Well, I disagree that older women are harder to get or that younger women are easier to manipulate.
	So first off, I don't think anybody should be manipulating anybody, but I could, for example, I could provide this.
	A woman who's 35, who's like, I want to have children, my options are dwindling, don't have kids yet, not even dating a guy, she's much more likely, I think, I think, because she realized time is ticking, she has far less time to secure a man.
	You could just make the argument she's easier to manipulate because she's like, shit, I got to get a guy.
	I got to find a guy.
	Time's running out.
	Can you just make the argument she's easier to manipulate?
	You can make that argument, yeah.
	I just did.
	Are you asking if I agree with that?
	You disagree.
	No, I don't agree with that.
	Interesting how that works.
	That we might disagree on something.
	So, okay.
	As you get older, you're supposed to learn from your experiences.
	So if you're 35 and getting manipulated by some dude, come on.
	Not only is it.
	She might be a more desperate, she might be in a more desperate situation, but she's not easier to manipulate.
	Younger women are easier to manipulate, but not more desperate.
	Those two things are, those are two separate things.
	Desperate doesn't mean you take anything, it means you want to take.
	Fine, I'll engage with that.
	How would one manipulate a younger woman?
	Just because she doesn't know as much.
	You could promise her the world, but she might just believe words instead of actions.
	Whereas an older woman would be like, I've been through that.
	I've done that.
	I'm going to see what you do, not what you just say.
	She might be like, I really want to get married right now and I want to start having kids, but I'm not going to settle for someone who's not going to be able to do that.
	That would make fox.
	Let me finish.
	That would make her easier to manipulate.
	That's not easier to manipulate.
	That's just.
	Let me just, I'll tell you why.
	So a younger woman might be more inclined to like, well, I don't want kids yet.
	I don't want to really settle down.
	I just want to have fun.
	I'm in my 20s.
	Fuck it.
	Just trying to have fun.
	Whatever.
	Maybe she's casually dating.
	Promising her the world doesn't mean shit.
	But promising the world to a woman who's like, I need to settle down, she's easier to manipulate right there.
	Because she wants that.
	Whereas the 20-year-old, oh, you want to be a provider?
	Don't give a fuck.
	These 20-year-old girls, oh, you want to be a provider?
	Don't care.
	I want the hot college dude.
	Don't care.
	I think that all of these situations.
	Wait, One more question.
	One more question.
	Hold on, one more question.
	Do you think when women are younger, they care more about looks than the male who can provide?
	Uh probably.
	You think college girls care more about looks or a guy who can provide?
	Probably about looks when you're younger.
	Okay, so you can't promise a 20-year-old girl the world because they don't give a fuck.
	They don't care.
	I mean, they still care.
	I mean, it doesn't depend on.
	Do you give a fuck about if a guy can provide for you when you're 18, right?
	You give a fuck if a guy can provide for you?
	You probably care more if he's like fun and cool and good looking, right?
	Okay, W. Thank you, Morgan.
	I mean, I don't disagree.
	But the 35-year-old woman who's also desperate.
	She wants a cool, fun guy who she gets along with.
	She doesn't care.
	I don't agree on that.
	The 35-year-old woman who's desperate is going through a screening process.
	She's going on these dates.
	She's like, do you have a house?
	what's your credit score, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh.
	And if a woman is- Do you have baby mama drama?
	Mm-hmm.
	And if any of that, and if you're not passing those tests, you're out.
	You're out.
	And if a woman is doing something right as she gets older, she already has everything she needs.
	Right.
	I have the house.
	You have the good job.
	You have the money coming in.
	I'm not going to just take somebody.
	If she's waited that long to find somebody, she's also not going to settle.
	She's not easily manipulated.
	So what is it?
	She wants it to be a little bit more.
	What does it mean to manipulate somebody, though?
	I don't even know.
	What does that look like?
	How would I manipulate a 20-year-old woman that I can't manipulate a 30-year-old?
	I'm just confused.
	Because the 20-year-old doesn't have as much experience.
	She hasn't, so she might be getting manipulated without even realizing it.
	Like emotionally, she believes she knows what she wants during that time.
	It's not manipulation, though.
	So that's what she's choosing to do.
	Wait, what did you say?
	It's not really manipulation if that's what she chooses to do and that's what she wants to get herself.
	Right, but manipulation is saying one thing and then doing another.
	Like he's saying, I'm going to promise you X, Y, and Z.
	She realizes two years later, man, this guy really ain't worth.
	Can I add something?
	So I think that the length of the relationship plays a huge part, too, because I think I think that two girls can meet a guy and the guy can.
	OK, let's say that there's a guy and he is dating the 30 year old and the 20 year old at the same time.
	He's playing a completely different game, but still manipulating both of them.
	I think the relationship with the 20-year-old will last a lot longer because the 30-year-old's not going to be able to read into, or she will be able to read into things much more quickly, like see his, see where things, because you just gain wisdom as you grow older and experience things, especially over the course of 10 years.
	Facts.
	While I would tend to agree with you that as you gain experience, you're perhaps more impervious to manipulation.
	But her claim was men want to date younger women because they're easier to manipulate.
	I don't see any evidence.
	I don't see any evidence of that.
	I think that's why it happens.
	It might not be conscious.
	I think that men want to date younger women because they're like, oh, she has perky ass tits and she's young looking.
	I think that that's why men want to date young women because of pretty much their biological drive, whether they're aware of it or not.
	I think they get women because they're easier to manipulate.
	They have lower standards.
	They don't have as much experience.
	They get the women because the women are more easily manipulated.
	Is that what you're saying?
	Yeah, they're easier to get when they're younger.
	So, wait, easier to get equals manipulated.
	No.
	You use the word manipulated.
	I think younger women are easier to manipulate.
	So?
	What does that have to do with a guy who's men's attraction to younger women?
	I mean, I think that it's easier for them to get younger women because they're easier to manipulate.
	Like, they're easier to impress.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, a younger woman might be like, oh, my God, he drives a Porsche and he has money.
	It's like Aladdin takes down the carpet.
	She's like, whoa.
	Whereas an older woman might be like, I don't give a fuck what kind of car you drive.
	Like, are you a good person?
	Like, you know what I'm saying?
	Like, it's just not going to be a lot of fun.
	She just wants to get down.
	No, I still have to have a car he drives.
	I don't agree with that.
	Sure.
	That makes two of us.
	Husband drives away.
	I mean, going back to Morgan's example here, Morgan's 18.
	That's right.
	She's probably not overly preoccupied with, like, wow, does he, like, does he have like some penthouse apartment?
	Like, most young women who are in college will date the dude who lives in a dorm room.
	Will date the dude who's got like three roommates, three housemates.
	It's older women who are going to have higher expectations.
	They want a guy who has his own house.
	They want a guy who has his own car.
	A 18, 19, 20-year-old girl will date a dude who takes the bus.
	Would it be, perhaps they might have a preference?
	It might be nicer if he has his own car.
	Yeah.
	But this idea that women who are older don't care about the material things.
	I think if there's a young guy who's good-looking, he doesn't really have a lot going on for him necessarily.
	Yeah, a young girl's probably not going to be as like, no, I'm not going to date you.
	But that guy's pursuing her.
	Another guy who's 30 is also pursuing her, but he has a car and a house and more money.
	She's probably going to pick him if he's also good looking.
	I actually disagree.
	Granted.
	If she was given the choice, yeah.
	Given the choice.
	If she was given the choice.
	Between the better-looking young guy.
	Like, if he's still a good-looking older guy, he's not like ugly as fuck, but he's rich.
	It's like, he's still good-looking, you know.
	Well, the thing is, though, is here's the thing.
	So I don't think that's the case because there's not, there is not a lack of men who are in their late 20s or 30s who are well off or have jobs, whatever, who would love to date an attractive 20-year-old daddy.
	But it seems to me that most 20-year-old women, there are some 20-year-old women, no problem, will date an older guy.
	Most 20-year-old women probably want to date men around their age.
	21, 20.
	And we know this because those are the men that they're dating and in relationships with and sleeping with.
	Yeah, women.
	I'm not saying it doesn't happen.
	They're the same age.
	But you think if we were to pull all the 20-year-old women, what's the distribution of them who are dating like a guy between the age of 20 and 22?
	And then what's the distribution of them who are dating men in their 30s?
	It's probably like less than 5% of them are dating men in their 30s.
	And then 95% of them are dating men their age.
	Probably, but I think more of them are dating a guy at least a year older or somewhat older.
	I mean, we don't know.
	Yeah, but I don't really think that.
	One year older, two years older.
	I don't consider that an age gap.
	A 20-year-old dating a 21-year-old.
	That's an age gap.
	That's not really.
	Okay, yeah.
	He was born a day before her.
	This predator.
	This fucking predator piece of shit.
	There's a 24-hour gap between they were born.
	Fucking fucking.
	So what would you consider a gap between 20 years?
	This younger, this 24-hour younger gives me the ick.
	What's that?
	Go ahead.
	What would you consider an age gap?
	Like five years and more?
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Sure.
	I think, yeah, over five.
	I'm curious what the numbers actually are.
	But I mean, I do want to answer the question.
	Of the women who are 20, who are in, who are like seeing somebody dating a guy, hooking up with a guy, you think more often than not, it's like a guy around their age as compared to like a guy in his late 20s, early 30s?
	Around older.
	Say it's like 95%.
	Within five years.
	95%.
	They're probably dating.
	Yeah.
	Well, they're looking for someone to pay for their college.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Also, that's what I was going to say.
	A lot of the time when it's a really big age gap and the woman is a lot younger, she's usually there for other, like ulterior motives than just wanting to be with him.
	Maybe.
	If it's really big, like if it gets like 20 plus, like 20, 40, there's probably a monetary thing.
	Yeah.
	But I think like 20 and like late 20s, early 30s.
	No.
	No, that's not.
	Not necessarily money.
	Like he could just be like a really attractive guy in his talk.
	Good talk.
	But really 10, 10, all tens?
	I'm sorry, I got it.
	I can't.
	Can't grant it.
	Can't grant it.
	I'll just say this.
	There's no tens at the table.
	That's okay.
	Do you want to talk about it?
	You want to talk about it?
	You feeling okay?
	I can give you a little therapy session.
	Now you want to talk.
	Who?
	Pearl broke me?
	Yeah, she broke you.
	She broke through the rough exterior.
	And now you're just flowing in.
	You're overfeelings now.
	I know.
	He's initiating.
	Since when you care, get a man bun or something.
	Let's see.
	We got some chats.
	Jordan, if you can read these.
	Look, I never said a man shouldn't love his wife.
	Just said a woman should be as God says.
	When you all say he used the Bible, that's a low blow.
	You don't know me.
	I am watching you.
	Wait, what?
	Oh, you think that's a good idea?
	That's creepy.
	You are that he shouldn't love us.
	I'm dead.
	Yeah, but he's only choosing one part of it until we brought the other part.
	Unfortunately, men tend to want to only bring up one part of it.
	Yeah.
	Not to what benefits.
	That's facts.
	Pearl, won't you read.
	This one's about to disappear, so just read this next one.
	Young, impressionable women fall for this degenerate media and behavior that can be extracted from it.
	WAP, 16 and pregnant.
	Other vanity projects to warp our youth indoctrinated, none good.
	Go ahead and read this one.
	All tens at the table.
	If you're truly a 10, there should be no need for makeup.
	Would you be willing to get the wipes and shows what 10 could look like?
	Oh my God.
	Please, Ma.
	Do we have any makeup wipes?
	I'm not.
	I refuse to use any makeup wipes.
	I don't call this.
	You refuse?
	Yeah.
	But I only refuse because I already messed with my skin enough.
	Okay.
	They can.
	You guys can.
	I know you're beautiful.
	Which tweet?
	Oh, the makeup one?
	I've already done that.
	I've got my first one.
	It just accentuates your natural features.
	Oh, man.
	That's actually a good idea.
	This is obviously an exaggeration, though.
	Yeah, there's no way.
	That's like hecka.
	She's like trying to get somewhere.
	Well, she had no eyebrows.
	She had eyebrows.
	Whatever.
	Okay.
	There's a difference between natural glam and full beat glam.
	Anybody willing to remove their makeup?
	The tens.
	I already did it.
	Oh, yeah, you didn't do that one, sure.
	I did.
	We didn't write herself.
	Pearl, can you read this one?
	You did.
	I did on the first one.
	Coming from a 30-year-old guy who owns his own business that had his wife leave him.
	Women have so many options.
	It's been two years, and I don't date because women don't hold the same standards as men.
	Okay.
	Simple acorn.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Actually, going back to that one, you guys said that, like, as a woman gets older, like, her standards increase.
	Shouldn't it be the reverse?
	So I completely actually disagree because, like, knowing that there are like women who love God at the table, like there's something in the Bible that says if you're equally yoked, your values will be enough to allow you to work in a relationship regardless of age, regardless of circumstance, regardless of this, that.
	I think that in order to support each other in like your work that you're doing under God's influence, like to encourage each other, there are better matches.
	But ultimately, if you guys are obeying God to the same extent in following all of his instructions, there should not be an issue at all.
	So the standard thing is kind of wiped off.
	You know what I mean?
	I don't know if you guys have anything to add to that.
	Unequally yoked is definitely part of it.
	But the thing is, we also, as we get older, no matter if you're married for five years, 10 years, 15, 20, 30, 40, as a person, you should want to take care of yourself.
	And if you take care of yourself, you will still be attractive to your spouse.
	And if your spouse does the same.
	So if you just allow yourself and you go, you know what?
	I got you.
	Five years in, I've gained 40 pounds.
	I could care less, then you've now changed the dynamic of the relationship and you shouldn't be taking away what helped.
	But isn't it implied in the Bible too that like we need that we do need to, in a way, like take care of ourselves in order to serve our husbands?
	On our temple, yeah.
	Yeah, definitely.
	I mean, I feel like for me, the way that I've viewed it is like how my husband met me and the values I held going into saying my vows the day of the marriage are the same values that I should carry out into my marriage.
	I shouldn't just change who I am and my values just because I'm married.
	And oh yeah, I gotcha.
	You know, we're married now.
	Like I could just give up on myself.
	Like that's not fair to me.
	That's not fair to him.
	And he shouldn't do this.
	He shouldn't do the same thing.
	Or he should do the same thing.
	Take care of himself.
	Were you guys just as confident before you were with the person you're with now?
	No, I wasn't.
	And that's why I'm saying I met my husband when I was 24.
	I got married when I was 25.
	I was way heavier.
	I didn't have much confidence.
	My looks were way different.
	And over the last 21 years, my weight's gone up, it's gone down, it's gone up.
	But I'm much better now than I was back then.
	But I had to find myself, and he was there to support me.
	I want to ask the 10, the 9, and the 10.
	That's beautiful.
	I want you guys to rate me on a scale of 1 to 10.
	So what?
	My looks.
	The 10 and the 9.
	Can you tilt your mic down?
	Yeah, I don't like that.
	Go ahead.
	I won't be offended.
	Oh, I don't think that you'll be offended.
	I won't be offended.
	I know that you won't be offended.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Pass.
	Jordan, give me a rating.
	He's fixing himself.
	I'm going to give you a solid six.
	I don't want to rate you.
	That's just mean.
	It's not mean.
	Go ahead.
	He's asking for it.
	He clearly doesn't care if we get offended.
	Lay it on him.
	Are you trying to justify?
	He's putting himself in a position to be judged.
	He asked for it.
	Think about it.
	He said he looked at us and was like, none of you are 10.
	I'm going to say five, but only because values differ.
	No, looks.
	Just looks.
	Forget the looks.
	She's like still five.
	Five and a half.
	She's all three.
	I don't know because I'm the type, like, I honestly the way he started to the camera.
	No.
	I need to preface this because you only date black guys?
	No, I need it.
	No, I need.
	Sorry, Desmond.
	You could be literally the most handsome man in the entire world.
	And if like it, it's just not it, you would still be a one to me, if that makes sense.
	Does that make sense?
	That's a lie because I just lied to myself and to all of y'all, but it's fine.
	Nobody's a lie.
	Somebody translates.
	I'm just going to say everybody doesn't know English and English.
	I'm just going to say it's a six for me.
	Oh, we agree.
	See?
	Yeah, you're a six.
	I already gave my answer.
	All right, Pearl.
	All right, Pearl.
	Let's, are we done with?
	We got chats.
	Okay, let's do the pre-show notes then.
	We got pre-show notes.
	We got to get through the notes, guys.
	We're going to react to Pearl's viral video, New York Post, TikTok, millions of views.
	Yep.
	Uh-huh.
	Wait.
	Music career.
	Okay.
	Pull up the New York Post article from Pearl.
	I use this hack to shame cheap men who want to split the bill.
	Guys say it's manipulative.
	Now who's manipulative, Pearl?
	Oh, I mean, guys definitely say it's manipulative.
	I'll talk.
	Oh, I'll get myself a little bit.
	Scroll down a bit, Nick.
	Scroll down.
	Scroll down.
	This 100% genius hack will get 50-50 cheapos in check.
	Splitting the bill on a first date to become a topic of contention.
	One shady dater has devised.
	Oh my god, alliteration.
	All the fucking, okay.
	One shady dater has devised a deliciously devious trick.
	Oh man, I bet she was very exuberant over that.
	Okay.
	That's sure to leave tight-fisted fellas with egg on their face.
	What?
	When a man actually just go to the video, Nick.
	Pull up the TikTok.
	Next, next page.
	Let's see it.
	When a man wants to go 50-50 with you on a date, do this.
	Oh my God.
	I'm so embarrassed right now.
	Wait, you wanted to just be friends?
	No.
	I'm so confused.
	This whole entire time, I thought this was a date.
	Oh, my God.
	Okay, I'm so sorry.
	Here's my card.
	I see how that works.
	I see how it works.
	See how it works?
	I can see that.
	Now, so you want a traditional guy, right?
	I wouldn't say that I want a traditional guy, no.
	But you want a guy to pay for first dates?
	I would like somebody to pay for the first date, yes.
	Why?
	Because the kind of man that I'm looking for, I'm looking for like the father of my children, life partner, somebody who has ambition, leadership qualities, like someone who has like, honestly, like a job where he could, you know, where he's like looking for a wife, someone who wants to take care of a wife and his children.
	And like, if I get pregnant with his babies, that it's, we're not going to be fucked if we get married, you know?
	Like, so I think like, to me, I don't think of like it being modern versus traditional.
	I just think like, what kind of energy do I want?
	What kind of man do I want?
	And I think the standard that I have is that if a man asked me out on a date, I would expect that like out of courtesy, he would take care of it.
	That's just what I want.
	Do I actually think that women should use this as a hack to get men to pay for them?
	No.
	I think that women should live in such a way and have the kind of energy where that if a man asked them out and they had a conversation, it would just, that's just what they would want to do.
	And if they don't want to do it, that's totally fine.
	But I would just really probably see that person as a friend.
	That's just a standard that I have for myself.
	Oh, if you want to split the bill on the first date, like we're probably just not a long-term match.
	Do I think you should actually use this?
	Like I said last time I was here?
	No.
	I think this was a skit to illustrate a standard and a standard is different than manipulation.
	I see how people could take it as me giving them a hack like the Shira 7 kind of stuff, but I personally didn't intend it to be that.
	I had no idea it was going to blow up the way that it did.
	But yeah, my standard is if a man asks me on a date, he's picking it.
	It could be coffee.
	It could be an expensive dinner.
	It could be a walk.
	And I get to say yes or no to the date.
	But if he planned it and he picked it, the very first thing I feel like a good impression is to take care of the bill.
	Well, regardless of whether you intend to employ this with this hack.
	I never called it a hack.
	That's what all the posts and all the people in the comments called it.
	Regardless of whether you actually employ this, oh, you want to split the bill?
	I didn't know you wanted to just be friends.
	I mean, the sentiment is still there, right?
	So if a guy did want to split the bill, there wouldn't be a second date, correct?
	Yeah, probably not.
	If he did split the bill.
	Yeah, if he wants a coffee and he's like, hey, can you Venmo me six bucks?
	I'd be like.
	No, he doesn't say that, but he goes in, he orders his thing.
	He arrives before you.
	And then you arrive.
	He doesn't go ahead and pay for friends.
	I would just assume it's not a date.
	I would assume that that's for friend.
	That would be like a friend thing.
	But what if he like overtly uses communication and says, no, this is a date.
	I am romantically and sexually interested in you.
	Yeah, I would be very surprised.
	And yeah, I probably wouldn't want to date him.
	Even though, because you're saying, well, I wouldn't date him again because he wants to be friends.
	But he's saying, well, I don't want to be friends.
	I actually want to date you, but I also don't want to pay for your shit.
	Yeah, I wouldn't like that.
	Fair enough.
	Going around the table, who should pay on the first date?
	Men.
	I think either.
	Sure.
	If he asks him.
	Okay.
	Men.
	Men.
	Okay, so.
	Could I also just ask her one question?
	Sure.
	Have you ever paid on a first date?
	When I was younger and more easily manipulated, yes.
	Did you want to pay?
	But now, no.
	I haven't had to.
	My friends, I mean, even my male friends, I never pay for myself.
	Wait, I have a question.
	You said when you were younger and you were dating guys, like you would split.
	Yeah, I might offer.
	I think the majority of the times men would.
	Did you ever hook up with any of these guys that didn't pay?
	I don't know.
	I don't, I don't know.
	I don't remember.
	You don't remember?
	I don't think so, no.
	I don't think I ever did, to be honest.
	Interesting.
	It wasn't a normal occurrence, but it did happen a few times before, but now it never happens ever.
	And I never talk about it, never say it, never happened.
	This was the big point of contention on the previous show.
	Would you take your husband's last name?
	Oh, yeah, we were talking about that.
	I would.
	I would take my husband's last name.
	That wasn't your answer, though, the previous time.
	My answer was, I don't know.
	Like, I was just saying, I don't know.
	And then I got a huge reaction from it.
	I was like, oh, I didn't even know that it mattered that much to men.
	And then we had this whole thing.
	But I was like, oh, I truly didn't even know that it would matter that much.
	But yeah, if my husband wanted me to take his last name, like, I have no idea what I'm saying.
	Would there be a conversation about it?
	Would he have to justify it?
	No, I don't think so.
	I thought there had to be a conversation.
	Like, he just said, you're taking my last name.
	I don't, you're taking it.
	That's just like a weird vibe.
	You said men should pay.
	I'd say that's what I want.
	You have to pay for first aids.
	I wouldn't approach it like that.
	I would say that that's what I want.
	And if he was like, that's this, I would prefer, like, I really want you to take my last name.
	It means this to me.
	I'd be like, okay.
	Didn't you say that?
	Well, I'd have to determine if his last name was cool enough.
	Didn't you say that?
	I did say that, yeah.
	But I don't think that's actually not true, though.
	Now you said that, though.
	I said that.
	And I'm allowed to evolve and change my opinion.
	Absolutely.
	And I think that that would totally be great with me.
	Even if he had an ugly ass last name, I would still take it if it really meant a lot to him.
	Well, I'm glad we had that impact on you on your own.
	Thank you so much for the whatever podcast.
	You changed my life.
	You're very welcome.
	But we did point out that when we brought this conversation up and you're like, well, I don't know.
	I don't think.
	I mean, it depends on his last name.
	I have to think about it.
	And then we said.
	Hold on.
	You don't want to take my last name?
	Oh, I didn't know that this was a friend date.
	I didn't know you wanted to just be friends.
	Yeah, that was funny.
	I remember that.
	That was a good one.
	It was a good one.
	Good one.
	Yeah.
	Just be friends.
	I'm a changed woman.
	Yeah, you should thank me for this.
	I did.
	I literally just did.
	That's good.
	It's good.
	So, okay.
	Why should men pay?
	Men can do whatever they want.
	I would prefer personally if my man was the kind of man who would want to take care of a first date.
	They don't have to, then they can date someone else.
	Yes, but someone else wants to do that.
	Like, why should it be that men should pay for first dates?
	Why do I like that in a man?
	And why do I prefer that?
	Yeah, why should men pay for?
	I'm not saying that all men should do anything.
	If they want, if there's a 50-50 man who doesn't want to pay on the first date for whatever reason, would you tell one of your girlfriends?
	He should get, he should be paired with a woman who also wants to do that.
	Okay, but you can go ahead and do that.
	In your female friend group?
	Yeah.
	What would you prescriptively tell your female friends?
	If you're giving her advice and a guy did this, you wouldn't, you would be like, well, if that's the arrangement you want, or would you prescriptively say, he's not the guy for you?
	I would say, what do you want?
	And if she was like, I prefer if he paid for it.
	I would say, okay.
	What if she didn't know?
	If she didn't know.
	And she was going to you for guidance.
	What would you tell her?
	I mean, I think that men who want to take care of the first date are like typically, you know, have I think it's like related and correlated to like leadership abilities and like men who don't want to pay for the first date, I feel like are probably have been like burned by women, like have been maybe manipulated or taken advantage of financially and are like skeptical of women, which is totally fair.
	I think that there totally are women who use men for their money.
	So I think that, you know, that they should have that discussion, like, you know, and decide what they want.
	Sure.
	Going around the table, why should men pay?
	Well, just to make my answer a little bit more clear, if a man asks you out, whoever is asking the person out should be paying because you are essentially taking initiative.
	And for me and a man, I like a man who takes initiative.
	I like a man who can take, you know, charge of a situation, whether good or bad.
	And if we're on a good date, you know, we're both trying to get to know each other and that's great.
	But at the end of the day, if you have set this date to happen, then you got to see it through and pay for the bill.
	You do understand, though, that it's mostly men who do take the initiated bill.
	Of course I do.
	I'm just Brian.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I take the advice from my father and he says that if you're on a first date, if they did ask you, then they should pay.
	But if they want to split it, then that's fine.
	It shouldn't really matter whether you split it or they pay.
	Like I've been on dates and I've offered to pay and I've paid the whole bill.
	Like just out of courtesy, whoever offers.
	Make you feel anyway about that person?
	No.
	Okay, that's good.
	I've done the same thing.
	I've paid for bills and I it's not something I get upset over.
	It's a preference, but it's not something I would get offended over.
	Okay.
	And I stated if he asks, then he should pay.
	So I go along with the same thing.
	Yeah, me too.
	I think that whoever takes initiative should definitely pay the bill first.
	I think it would be weird if he like asked me out on a date and then he was like, all right, here's the check.
	Or he shouldn't even let you see it.
	He shouldn't even let you see it.
	He should just grab it.
	Yeah, and not even let you see what it is.
	Not even split it.
	You know what I think is fair?
	You know what, though?
	I went on, I like initiated a date and he like he paid for the bill without me even looking and I was like, oh my gosh, like this man is like amazing.
	I mean, I still think he's amazing, but.
	Yeah, even when women initiate, they'll still get the treatment.
	You know what I think?
	You know what's fair.
	What do you guys make this trade?
	We men, we continue to be initiators, but you guys pay for the whole date.
	That's fair, right?
	Yeah.
	Like, we have to do the burden of asking you out.
	Why is that a burden?
	It's a burden.
	It's not.
	It's not a burden.
	Is it something that has to be done?
	Well, if it's a burden, it's a delight.
	I don't want her enough.
	I think it is a delight.
	It's work.
	It's a burden.
	It's work.
	To approach somebody, to be rejected.
	It takes a budget, but it's not a burden.
	Set a panel of women who have never been rejected.
	Yeah, don't say burden.
	That's a part.
	That's the wrong word.
	Wait, have none of you ever, like, have you, you ever been to a party?
	Yeah.
	Have you ever been to a party?
	Have guys ever approached you?
	Yeah.
	Have you ever been to a party where you rejected every single guy who approached you?
	Yeah.
	Mm-hmm.
	And you think, like, there were other girls at the party that also rejected them?
	And then, like, boom, rejection, rejection, rejection.
	But have any of you ever been to a party and approached man after man after man and been rejected and had the yeah, but I'm also holding the burden of feeling bad for rejecting you.
	Oh, not a party, but like after you.
	Oh, my shit, so much.
	Oh, my God.
	I hate it.
	I hate it every time it hurts.
	Women love.
	Actually, women love rejecting men.
	No, I hate it.
	I also hate it.
	I think women would necessarily reject it.
	It's validation.
	Sorry.
	You're not attractive enough.
	No, no, no, no.
	Wait, why did you reject?
	I'm actually holding her.
	They were so hard.
	Do you not remember that?
	Like, it was a really good woman.
	It's hard.
	I'm going to give you an actual number like five minutes ago.
	It is hard.
	It's very hard.
	It's hard when you like.
	And I don't reject like, no.
	I don't want to be.
	I'm like, I appreciate you coming over here.
	I know it took a lot of guts, but they're still getting rejected.
	But I'm still, yes, but my delivery is very sweet and kind.
	And it's hard for me to do that.
	I actually have a hard time saying no, just as a general.
	Bro, you're married.
	But chill out.
	No.
	I mean, I know.
	It's hard for her, bro.
	She's married.
	I understand what you mean.
	No, no, no, not like that.
	Not like that.
	I mean, I just have a hard time saying no.
	I mean, it still is harder for the man, though.
	Yeah, to be rejected for sure.
	I agree with you.
	Like, no, it actually is.
	I am a gusset boy, which is not necessarily a negative trait.
	Here, let's role play.
	You and me.
	Okay, pick me up.
	Go ahead.
	I'm the chick.
	You're the dude.
	Go ahead.
	Give me a wick, somebody.
	You got this there.
	Oh, and hold on.
	Oh, what the heck?
	A baby?
	Wait, hold on.
	You're wondering where the baby came in.
	Oh, wait, I can't think of a good baby.
	What?
	What the?
	So, you know, I've been getting a lot of criticism.
	I've been getting a lot of criticism that, you know, we previously had a black baby and a white baby.
	I've been getting a lot of flack online.
	I sometimes give Madison a child.
	So we have, Nick, could you put it on this camera?
	So weird.
	It's an ancient baby.
	I've purchased to be considerate and be diverse.
	I purchased an Asian baby.
	Wait, really?
	Baby.
	She got so excited.
	That's an Asian baby.
	Ryan's got two different baby mama.
	Yeah.
	So, okay.
	So hold on.
	Let's role play.
	You have two children.
	So I'm you.
	Those are your two sons.
	These are your two sons.
	What's the best way to hold a child?
	Definitely not like that.
	By basketball.
	Like you love this.
	Switch.
	Is this perfect?
	No.
	What are you going to do when you become a dad?
	Oh, I understand why you're going to be a little bit more.
	So, okay, I'm you.
	I'm you.
	That I understand why you went to court for that.
	I'm you.
	Cradle.
	Hold on.
	Okay.
	I'll just put them there.
	What?
	Yeah, because hold your hand.
	That young girl just sit up.
	All right.
	Wait.
	All right.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Pick me up.
	Let's go.
	Well, I'm not going to.
	No respectable person would probably pick you up with your children right there.
	It's at least not my respect.
	I don't understand.
	Don't worry.
	They're not actually here.
	They're just.
	They don't change.
	You have two kids.
	I have two kids.
	You're the man.
	I'm the woman.
	Go ahead.
	Wait.
	I'm the man.
	You're the man.
	Pick me up.
	Hello, m'lady.
	Would you like to...
	Milady.
	The lady from the Renaissance Ages.
	This is Renaissance.
	You need a helmet.
	That was a renaissance term right there.
	Say something again.
	Okay, did you not tip the fedora?
	No, like do a, when you say Milady, do a little tip.
	Tip it.
	Milady.
	There you go.
	Okay, go ahead.
	You're doing good so far.
	Done.
	Can I take you out to dinner sometime?
	Wow, that's very direct.
	I suppose.
	I suppose.
	Wow, that was easy.
	Weren't you even looking at him?
	Thanks.
	I'll call you Friday.
	Aren't you going to get my number?
	You fucking telepathic.
	Oh, we're going to do the whole thing.
	Okay.
	So you got to do the whole thing.
	What are you thinking of this?
	Can I give you my snap?
	Can I get your number?
	Can I give you my snap?
	I'd rather give you my snap.
	But you still use Snapchat.
	Respectfully, I don't use Snapchat.
	Oh, I guess you can follow me on Instagram.
	Here we go.
	I would actually like to seriously pursue you.
	So if you want, I will take your number.
	I will call you and we can set up a dinner.
	No, none of that.
	You just go straight to the point, don't you?
	You're making me way more promiscuous than I want to be.
	I was hoping for a little conversation, but you just want to go straight to getting my digits.
	It's not bad.
	It's not bad.
	Tell you what, I'll give you my Instagram.
	Here it is.
	At BigBooty Bitch13.
	All right, you know what?
	It's actually looking like you're not the type of woman that I'd actually want for myself, but you have a lot of stuff.
	You're lost.
	Whatever.
	Based on that username.
	Damn, I feel like...
	That was terrible.
	Milady.
	She's open with Milady.
	That was awesome.
	You open with Milady.
	You open with Milady.
	I was thinking you look so good.
	That was her opener.
	Oh my gosh.
	You have to wear the fedora the rest of the show.
	Are you serious?
	I am dead serious.
	Give her the fedora.
	I look like Michael Jackson with the fedora.
	Oh my gosh.
	No, she looks like she's about to do a jazz.
	She's on it.
	A jazz jelly.
	You actually look cute.
	This looks like I look like Michael Bouble, but like.
	I love that.
	It's a good look.
	It's a good look.
	Michelle Bublay.
	Anyways, let's see.
	Michaela Bouble.
	So, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, the TikToks.
	We got more TikToks.
	Pearl over here.
	Go ahead.
	You want to be the best partner a man has ever had.
	Absolutely obsessed with you.
	Get to wake up every single day and you need to be the first person who's on your mind.
	You're doing your own thing.
	You're accomplishing your own goals.
	You're living your life for yourself.
	You've decentered him.
	You've decentered men in general.
	You know who you are.
	You like who you are.
	The ways in which you don't know how to love yourself are going to be projected onto your partner.
	So taking inventory and auditing every part of your life and saying, where can I love myself more? is going to help you be the best woman any man has ever had erroneous what You're wearing the same shirt.
	I am wearing the same shirt.
	Yeah, you are wearing the same.
	Wow, that's embarrassing.
	What?
	AKA.
	Same jacket every show.
	Hey, Maddie.
	Shots fired.
	Rude.
	He's like, he wasn't.
	What does decenter men mean?
	What does that mean?
	I think that women grow up, like we saw, I mean, at least I did, growing up in media where it's like the woman discovers her confidence when the man tells her she's beautiful.
	And it's like we're always externalizing and seeking validation from outside sources instead of finding it from within.
	And I think when you learn to validate yourself and you learn to just like love yourself for who you are, your mistakes, your flaws, where you're at in life, and to just like be your own, be the person who you're, you are your safest place.
	And the person that you're wanting to love you, if you can love yourself in that way, I find that you tend to attract people who will love you in that way.
	And if you think of yourself as like, I don't know, not worthy or like not beautiful, then you tend to attract people who kind of are going to manipulate you or use you or not really value you in the same way.
	So I find that how you think of yourself is typically projected into like the people that you attract both friendships and relationships.
	So if you want somebody to like be completely and utterly and totally obsessed with you, which I feel like everybody does, then really completely and totally being obsessed with yourself in the sense that not that you think that you're better than other people or that in comparison to other people, you know, you're somehow superior, but saying, I am who I am as I am and I accept myself and I like that about me.
	I like how I handle my mistakes.
	I like how I handle my failures and I'm okay with me as I am.
	You tend, you'll attract people who think in the same way.
	And do you think anybody stop listening like 10 seconds in?
	Do you think that everyone should think that way or that's just your personal views for yourself?
	I think that most women, I mean, it depends on who the woman is, like, but I think most women, we all have to go on a journey of like self-confidence and self-growth and self-love and understanding that our worth doesn't come from anything exterior or we don't have to externalize it or get validation from other people.
	And it's funny because when we do go on that journey, we tend to actually get more validation.
	We tend to actually get more love from other people.
	So whenever I see a woman who keeps attracting men in her life who are like kind of like toxic or just like aren't treating her well, it's usually because she has low self-esteem.
	Yes.
	She does like she's a 10.
	When her self-esteem grows, she typically attracts men who honor her and who cherish her and who respect her.
	What if you just don't have confidence?
	You don't really, you're just like, okay, you're like fine with whoever you are.
	That's confidence.
	You think?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	That is what confidence is.
	It's being fine with who you are as you are.
	And also maybe seeing the things that maybe aren't so good about you.
	Maybe you are toxic.
	Maybe you are somebody who doesn't, who, you know, I don't know, is a bad friend or whatever.
	And being like, I'm kind of a bad friend.
	I'm going to work on that.
	But it's okay.
	I'm working on it.
	I'm growing.
	I'm going to, you know, become better in this area.
	But, you know, I am as I am.
	You know, I mean, how many women here, your first boyfriend or first couple boyfriends were pretty crappy?
	Or even dead for sure, right?
	So that has a lot to do with the fact that you haven't figured anything out.
	You don't know anything better.
	You don't think much of yourself.
	Hence, that's where the guys come in and they treat the women like crap.
	Now, if you that doesn't grow, if you don't grow as a person, you continue to attract that kind of person as you get older.
	These are things that, yes, you're going to have that when you're younger, but you should not continue to have that when you get older.
	Because when you think well of yourself, you don't accept behavior from other people in the same way.
	So if you think, oh, I'm unworthy, then you're going to attract men who treat you like you're unworthy.
	But if you think, no, I'm an amazing person, like I love this about me, I love this about me.
	Like I've grown in this way, I've been with myself through all these obstacles and mistakes, you're going to attract people who treat you like that.
	Wait, hold on.
	You said I'm an amazing person.
	I view myself as an amazing person.
	Isn't there some sort of some degree of tangibility or objectivity when it comes to you being an amazing person?
	Yes.
	Like, are you just an amazing person because you're a person?
	Or do you actually have to be like, have redeeming qualities about you?
	I think you do have to have redeeming qualities.
	So I can't.
	I mean, but I'm confused about the whole I need to be myself as amazing.
	Well, I can get the best guy.
	Yeah, that's.
	That's how you talk, by the way.
	Just kidding.
	It's a tough crowd tonight, eh?
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, I do believe that when you think of yourself and you respect yourself, you have self-respect, you have self-worth, you're going to attract men, and you're going to reject men who don't see you with self-worth and self-respect.
	And that's why as you age, your standards become higher.
	Typically, if you're self-aware and you're thinking about yourself, you don't have to be delusional.
	You can say, I'm amazing because I've healed this trauma.
	I've grown in discipline.
	I've grown in character.
	I've read all these books and I've learned from all these wise women.
	I've, you know, grown this business for myself.
	There are things that you can point out in your life that grow your confidence.
	And they're usually, and I don't need other people to say, you're beautiful, you're this, in order to feel worthy because I could just tell myself because I see myself and I've been through all of my difficulties with myself the entire time.
	I was gonna agree with Brian though, because I just wasn't understanding like you were saying something like you accept who you are and everything, but then you also were saying like, oh, I'm such a good person and I'm this and I'm that.
	Is there, do you really think that's also confidence?
	Or, because I feel like some people just say, I am who I am, that's it.
	It's not like, oh, I'm this great person.
	They're not like really, you know, thinking these good things about themselves.
	They're just, they are who they are.
	I think they've settled.
	Yeah, I think it's good to think of yourself highly.
	And I think it's not based off things that aren't based in reality.
	But you should also want to think good things about yourself.
	Yeah, it's well.
	You should value yourself.
	Yeah, you should be like, hey, I got this promotion.
	Hey, you know, if you work out, I hit a new personal record.
	Hey, I lost 10 pounds.
	You mentioned that you've lost weight.
	That should be something that you're very much proud of.
	So it's okay to be proud of yourself for your accomplishments.
	It doesn't.
	I think, yeah, I think confidence is definitely like.
	I wasn't talking about me personally.
	I'm just saying.
	I was just.
	I think to what you're saying is like, should there be happy with who you are?
	Stop.
	I'm trying to get the thought out.
	Let me get it out.
	Let me move it on.
	Hold on.
	Wait, I think you feel the same thing.
	There, let's wrap up the therapy session, please.
	Go ahead.
	Make your point.
	Let me move it off.
	Hold on.
	Let me talk.
	Oh, my God.
	So, I was saying is that you should be, yes, you should have confidence and value yourself.
	Everybody should value themselves, but not at the expense of settling and just saying, oh, yeah, I'm happy with where I'm at and I'm good with who I am.
	And this is me.
	But yeah, you have no goals, no ambitions.
	Not doing anything about changing, fixing, growing.
	It shouldn't be at the absence of not trying to be better.
	Like, there's a difference between being confidence, but confidence has to come with the action as well.
	The action of doing better for yourself, having goals for yourself, accomplishing things.
	Like, you can't just be delusional and be like, yeah, you know, I am happy with who I am, and I do value myself, but yet your actions don't reciprocate that.
	Okay, Brian.
	Your turn.
	No, that makes sense.
	Is that what you were saying?
	Okay.
	Literally playing cards now.
	That's so rude.
	Huh?
	This is a podcast.
	This is a podcast.
	You're supposed to be listening to me.
	I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
	I'm responding.
	I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
	No, that's just who you are.
	I think you should be who you are.
	If you're uninterested in these kinds of things, do it.
	Sorry, sorry.
	You are who you are.
	Be confident.
	That's so unraveling for you.
	I did not know that was on camera.
	I am sorry.
	That is so rude, Jordan.
	I am.
	I'd like to take this chance to apologize.
	To absolutely nobody.
	Okay.
	So, what was your next point?
	I want to go to Jordan, actually.
	Jordan.
	What?
	I need someone to do that.
	We'll come back to them really quick.
	Jordan, Brian mentioned that women should be drafted.
	I highly disagree with that.
	So raise your hand here at the table.
	Who highly disagrees that women should be drafted along with the men?
	Equality?
	Disagree.
	Maddie?
	Disagree?
	Disagree that women should be.
	Oh, Pearl, you're leaving for getting up for this one.
	You don't want to have the draft conversation.
	Everybody knows what I think.
	Come on.
	She wants women to be on the front line.
	And let's say, like, absolutely.
	Disagree, women should not be drafted, not be drafted.
	You're in favor of the draft for women.
	W. W in favor of the draft.
	Is this like if you're a feminist?
	It's just general.
	Or like if you think women and men should both be drafted if it came down to it.
	Women should be drafted exactly like men.
	Women should have the opportunity to get drafted if they want to be drafted.
	Well, that's the point of a draft is that you don't have to do it.
	You don't have a choice.
	No.
	No, no.
	Okay.
	I want the choice to be forced to do something.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, I want to choose or, you know, whether or not I want to be forced to do something.
	That's better, but yeah, but then like, I feel like everyone would choose to not be drafted.
	And then I feel like women, like.
	I should be forced, but also not.
	Yeah.
	I totally agree.
	Okay.
	I feel like it would be highly ineffective.
	Oh, for sure.
	Because women are.
	You're fucking kill it on the front line.
	Women are.
	You would fuck some people up, bro.
	I would not be able to look somebody in the eye.
	Be a 10, be self-confident.
	Are you not self-confident in your ability to do hand-to-hand combat?
	You could win the war.
	You could win the war.
	But there are so many different jobs.
	Sarah.
	Everybody has to be on the front line.
	Okay, if you sent a bunch of women and a bunch of men against one another, I know.
	And I'm not sure.
	Honestly, they're way too long.
	You could fuck somebody up with that.
	Go ahead.
	Sorry.
	Women are just more emotionally.
	Like, they function more emotionally.
	Well, then shoot them and cry out.
	Yeah, shoot them and cry.
	How dare you?
	Pray for them and then shoot them.
	No.
	Yeah.
	But like, am I right?
	Like, would we, if it was like us against like a bunch of men, and I'm not saying it's because men are like more terrible.
	It's just they are not going to sit there and like yeah, but if we were forced, we wouldn't have a choice.
	We would just have to do it.
	Yeah.
	You know, we wouldn't have a choice.
	But still, we would just have to do what we have to do to win the war.
	I honestly think we should draft women first.
	Soften up the enemy, then the men go in.
	We're supposed to only parcel uniforms to get their minds off of war.
	Is that where you're going with that?
	Are you talking about free the tea movies?
	No, no, no, we're just saying they have them, they have the women seduce everyone and then they come and kill them.
	Would that I wonder if that would like be an effective?
	I mean, if you think about it, how long have men been out at war, right?
	Okay, imagine seeing a woman would be like so.
	Imagine all of us at once, we just flash them.
	Imagine you're a soldier, chat.
	Chat, imagine you're a soldier and you're a sniper and you see a woman in camo without a top.
	Are you taking the shot or are you kind of waiting a little bit?
	He's gonna wait.
	I don't know if he takes the shot.
	He might be a little bit more.
	He's gonna wait.
	Depends on what his commands are.
	I feel like he's gonna look for a second and then that's when the other girl does he take the shot.
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	Men have forced military conscription.
	Cannot vote unless we sign selective service.
	True.
	Women can vote for people who would send men to the front line.
	This alone should say women should pay first.
	But like, I feel like as women, we have an important role to, like, especially if we have kids, to like stay home and be with the kids.
	And I think if women were drafted and the men had to stay home with the kids, like, I just, I don't think that would be the most ideal situation.
	That'd be better for women to be home with the kids.
	That would be super ideal for the men.
	Are you saying like for both?
	Jordan, are you saying for both parents?
	Are you just saying one or the other?
	Because that's one of the things they used to do for the drafted was that they would never take like if they had three both parents or if they had three sons, they would not take all three.
	Or if two passed, they would bring the third one home so that they didn't have to go back to the families and say, you're now wiped out all your children.
	Yeah, they just took one.
	Think we're gonna start the draft, and the higher you rate yourself on the look scale, you're the first.
	If you're a 10, you get to go get drafted first.
	So we're saying because you're the most confident.
	We need, listen, we need confident soldiers.
	We need confident women and confident soldiers.
	You're a 10 out of 10 slay queen.
	This is not.
	Slay queen.
	Get that motherfucker in the crosshairs.
	You got that shit, queen.
	Go off.
	Drizzle, drizzle.
	Although, I'm going to say Jordan would be a badass, though.
	I'm sorry.
	She is.
	Jordan, she would.
	She'd be badass.
	Jordan would fuck people up.
	She would rush in.
	She would fuck somebody up.
	And then praise her.
	She'd be able to lift them with one hand.
	Oh, yeah.
	She would annihilate.
	She would.
	Annihilate them.
	Yeah.
	That's why we should draft Jordan.
	Look at me with my dainty.
	You don't want me.
	You don't want me with my dainty man hands going to war.
	We need Jordan over there.
	I forgot that you said if it was like, let's not.
	Let's not compare hands.
	Yes, I would.
	I would go first so that other woman can stay home.
	That is the same thing.
	And then they'd be like, thank you so much.
	You are a story.
	You are a patriot.
	You are.
	You went for us.
	Pearl, you go on the front line?
	No one wants me protecting the country in that way.
	With all your confidence?
	Yes.
	That was funny, though.
	A lot of these male soldiers, they don't have half the confidence you have.
	We need you on the front line.
	Sorry.
	So go join the.
	Yeah.
	Maybe I'll think about it.
	You should join the military.
	Can she join any military people?
	Is she too old?
	No offense.
	No, she's not.
	She holds too old for the military.
	Can you go into the military at 37?
	32?
	Sorry, sorry.
	They break it.
	My bad.
	My bad.
	I'm sorry.
	32.
	Can you go into the military?
	Chat.
	Any soldiers in the chat?
	Military.
	Can she go in at 32 or is she?
	I think the military needs to be volunteer.
	I think my typical camera is a little bit more than that.
	Depends which branch.
	Which branch.
	Yeah, it does.
	Up to 41, huh?
	It depends what branches thought it was going to be way longer if they did it.
	I want her.
	She's going to be a Marine first.
	She's going to be first to the moment.
	Maybe Air Force after Air Force.
	The Marines are the first.
	You could sing into them.
	I could be in the band, like the Army area or whatever.
	The what?
	The band?
	They have like a music.
	I'll be in the Army band.
	Band.
	Yeah, the military, they have like musicians.
	Yeah, maybe.
	I'll be back in the middle of the morning.
	Actually, I won't even do that, to be honest.
	Don't quit your face, Joe.
	I won't.
	Trust me, I won't.
	It's very competitive.
	Oh, gosh.
	Very competitive.
	We all know I'm not meant for that.
	I think men are drafted for a reason.
	This was all thought out.
	Actually, I really don't think.
	It's a terrible reason.
	We need to start.
	Honestly, I really don't think a lot about it.
	I think they just did because they didn't value women very much.
	This is what I would like to see.
	This is what I like to see.
	But I think women are better off at home with the kids than men.
	Thank you, Jordan.
	Good.
	I think.
	They're so mean to me today.
	I'm not mean to me.
	He said, I love you, Earl.
	He did say I love you.
	I'm getting bipolar.
	Like, you love me, you love me not.
	You love me, you love me.
	We're going to send the women.
	We're going to send the women to war, but they can't have any guns or anything.
	So you just have to fight like this.
	Yeah, I said I would sacrifice.
	Are we fighting other women or other women?
	Then that'd be fair.
	Yeah, it's just a lot of people.
	I don't have kids, so I will get it.
	Okay, all right.
	That's fair.
	Good talk.
	We have Desert Joe.
	So much prattle, so much cope.
	He's sleepy.
	Yo, Desert Joe, thank you for the message, man.
	Appreciate it, dude.
	Appreciate it, brother.
	We have, I'm waiting for it to come.
	I'm going to have Jordan read this because I was mean to her.
	I meant I am watching you talk trash.
	You say I'm only using one part, then tell me the other part.
	Does a church go out clubbing in a bikini?
	What am I saying is out of context?
	Can only type so much.
	Who's this directed to?
	I don't know.
	I like it.
	I don't even know the number of the original.
	I mean, it just came out.
	Seems like that person's taking different bits of pieces.
	Again, with what the grammar is.
	Again, what the grammar, again, with the words, again with the not forming sentences correctly.
	Okay.
	Well, Ink, thank you for the 1776.
	Appreciate the Streamlabs message, man.
	Thank you.
	We have Craig Edelman.
	Go ahead, Jordan.
	This is the same one.
	Oh, it's the same one.
	Craig.
	All right.
	All right.
	Thanks, Craig.
	We already read it, but thank you, Craig, for the super.
	The girl in red is the only realistic woman there.
	If they want to mix personality with looks, then she wins, hands down.
	The other goofs have zero logic.
	Do any of you want to respond to the y'all are goofs?
	You can ask him about it.
	I just think that's a good idea.
	Brian.
	Thank you.
	Would you like to date me?
	Oh, whoa.
	Yeah, okay.
	All right.
	Hey, Ryan.
	Have you ever done a girl?
	She's confident.
	She went for it.
	She went for it.
	See, she's a perfect example of confidence.
	He's very patriotic.
	I want to see him.
	Thank you, Brian.
	Brian.
	Stars, best.
	Okay, we talked about the draft.
	I think women should be drafted.
	Only fair.
	I am a feminist and believe in equality.
	You said Brian doesn't think women should wear makeup.
	Is that a fact, Brian?
	I think the world would be a better place if there was no makeup.
	Is that like the pressing issue of society in the world?
	Do you care about the environment, Jordan?
	Yeah.
	Do you care about the environment?
	I do.
	Do you?
	By the way, really quick, this is totally unrelated.
	Are there any pulmonologists watching the show?
	Because I have a question.
	If you're a pulmonologist, can you DM me?
	What's that?
	I think it's a doctor with the lungs who focuses on the lungs.
	A pulmonary doctor?
	Pulmonary pulmonologist.
	Why?
	You need to help me pass.
	I know.
	Do you have problems with your lungs?
	What's going on?
	I got a question.
	I got a question.
	I'm not going to talk about it on the show, but I got a question.
	Oh, no.
	That doesn't sound like a camera.
	Don't worry about it.
	So, makeup.
	Yeah, I'm against makeup.
	Just against it as a whole.
	Don't think it should exist.
	It ceases to exist.
	It's kind of deceptive.
	I agree that it can be used to a degree that can completely alter and change a woman's looks.
	But I think there's a range and it's fluid.
	Like I said, you can wear makeup and it can be a soft glam.
	Like, for example, when I came on the first podcast and I took my makeup off, like a lot of the other girls on the panel were like, hey, there's not too much big of a difference because I don't cake my face with like all of this pounds of makeup.
	To be fair, the lighting in here does wonders for the women.
	Not for me.
	I'm so red.
	To be fair, lighting can't cover.
	Everything in here does a lot of things.
	Lighting can't cover ugly.
	Appreciate the lighting.
	Our camera setup is doing a lot of favors for women who come on this show.
	So I want to ask.
	All the lighting in the world, you can't cover ugly.
	So if you feel that strongly about makeup and women, when you see a woman walking down the street, what attracts you to her?
	It's just her body because makeup is because her face, that's what attracts men to women is their face.
	They see their face first.
	Sure.
	So you men are the reason why we've had to do this.
	You don't seem to understand that.
	And that's because as young girls, we see it on TV.
	We hear it.
	That is why we go to fashion magazines.
	That's why we go to makeup.
	That's why we want it.
	We don't just wake up as a, you know, wake up as a baby.
	Yeah.
	We're not just born as a baby and go, makeup.
	It's what we learn and we learn it from what we hear.
	But a lot of women say, I don't wear makeup for men.
	So these are two kinds of like.
	I could actually argue that like, I think a lot of other women wear makeup because other women wear makeup.
	Does that make sense?
	Like I feel like, so for example, like I actually don't wear makeup.
	I'm wearing makeup today and when I wear makeup like I wear makeup.
	But typically I don't wear makeup.
	Like I mean Liz knows she knows me personally.
	I never wear makeup, you know?
	But to be completely transparent, I wore makeup because I was like, other women are probably going to wear makeup.
	But when you were a teenager, 11 years old, 12 years old, 13, 14, why did you start?
	I think the norm would have actually been because I was being influenced by my friends to do it.
	Like, where did they learn it?
	That's what I'm saying.
	It's an influence.
	Yeah.
	And it doesn't, it doesn't come from your parents.
	It doesn't come from your siblings normally.
	Wait, but you're okay.
	Going back to your original argument, you were saying that women do the makeup thing because like men care about a woman's face, right?
	Yes.
	I think it could come from the parents, though.
	Well, you see your mother wearing probably if you see your mother wearing.
	But so to get to the point of it, but would if women care about a man's career success, is he then justified in lying about his career?
	So like a guy works at McDonald's, knowing that women are attracted to successful men, he lies on a dating app or in person and says, well, I'm a lawyer.
	Well, it would be a lot easier.
	Women are attracted to it.
	It would be a lot easier to keep up with your makeup every day than keeping up that you work at McDonald's instead of being a lawyer.
	I think a guy could pull it off.
	You should test that out.
	I don't think it's the same experience.
	I don't think wearing makeup is fine about your career are the same things.
	I actually think the impact of makeup.
	Yeah, I don't think those are really comparable.
	I don't think they're a good comparison.
	So I actually think, though, that the impact that makeup will have in terms of the impact it will have on the man being more attracted to you is more significant than a man lying about his job.
	No.
	Yes.
	Eventually he's going to see you without makeup.
	Right.
	Well, I have more of an issue with you.
	Yeah, you trashed him.
	You manipulated him.
	You manipulator.
	Have you ever manipulated him into a relationship?
	Brian, I want to ask you also.
	Why is it dumb?
	Why is it dumb?
	Because you want to defend the paint?
	No, but you're a paint defender.
	I just don't care.
	Like, this is just a dumb conversation.
	People who are.
	You don't like the conversation.
	Men who are so fucking obsessed with, like, how much makeup women are wearing or not wearing, it's like, you're, it's just, I just find that.
	I personally find that unattractive.
	Women who are obsessed with men who deceive them by lying.
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	Men who are obsessed with the makeup things.
	I just find it boring.
	Yeah, we're having a lot of time.
	Have you ever personally hooked up with a woman and not seen her without makeup?
	Every time she puts on makeup somehow, like even after whatever, she goes and takes a shower and she puts on makeup before you see her again?
	Like has someone done that into which you have not seen them without makeup and it's altered your reality of seeing how they look?
	Well, this is a difficult one because I tend to prefer women who wear minimal or no makeup.
	Although I've dated women who wear makeup, but that is totally within your control.
	To answer your question, you can have that preference.
	I don't think that there's a woman that I've been with where I wear.
	But again, this could come down to my general preference for women who wear minimal or no makeup.
	I've not been with a woman and then she removes the makeup.
	I'm like, damn, she's busted.
	And you're able to tell that she's wearing a certain amount of makeup.
	Like when you see an attractive woman and you ask her out whatever, it'll depend on if you can tell how much makeup that she's currently wearing.
	What's the question?
	I'm sorry.
	I was answering the question.
	Do you base it off of when you see a woman and you can notice that she's wearing too much makeup, so you won't ask her out?
	Sure, yeah, actually, I mean, if I see her on the dating app or in person, like a woman who's wearing what, in my view, is too much makeup, I probably wouldn't pursue her.
	Just not really my type.
	Okay.
	But like, if she's wearing a bit of makeup, then it's okay.
	It's not a deal breaker.
	I just didn't know if guys were able to.
	I do prefer minimal or no makeup.
	But if she's attractive without it, what harm is it if she wears it and is still attractive?
	Well, I mean, there's a couple things.
	One, this is anecdotal.
	Most guys probably don't care from this angle.
	Maybe they do.
	Maybe the chat can weigh in.
	Actually, one of the reasons I don't like it is if she wears a bunch of shit on her face and it rubs off on me, I'm prone to acne.
	I don't want her shit getting on me and we're making out and then I have acne breakout or some shit because of her paint.
	And then also my pillowcases.
	Fuck out of here.
	Or your shirts.
	I mean, you shouldn't sleep in makeup, but.
	Well, if we're in bed laying down, she's not.
	You know what I mean?
	You pretend to be a little bit more.
	I don't know.
	Take off the pillow sheets.
	I don't know.
	But if you have a knucking acne thing, like, okay, you know, that's understandable.
	And I'm sure she's.
	I just don't even like that shit on my skin, to be honest.
	You don't put on makeup before you come into the studio.
	They're legitimate reasons, honestly.
	I mean, that's legitimate, and that's a preference.
	But that doesn't mean like all women should just stop wearing makeup.
	If putting on makeup gives her that little boost of confidence and it makes her feel good, it makes her feel pretty, then, you know, when you feel pretty, you, you know, portray that.
	And you're just like, I'll actually grant you like all the motivations for why a lot of the motivations for why women wear makeup.
	Here, just ignore it.
	I'm sorry.
	All the things you listed, I actually don't have any problem with that.
	Cool, you want to wear makeup because you like it?
	That's not, I'm more viewing it from like the male perspective, dating perspective.
	Yeah.
	You wear it for whatever reasons.
	I'm just saying, like in a dating perspective, I don't think you can make the argument it's not deceptive.
	And if you can, I'm prepared to hear it.
	But then also all the other things I just listed.
	Take her swimming.
	Swimming.
	First date.
	Oh, my God.
	First date swimming.
	You think that?
	What?
	You think a man should test a woman by taking her swimming?
	No, I mean, he should.
	I mean, like, he can also ask a woman, you know, can I see you without makeup?
	Can I see a picture of you without it?
	That's on a major question.
	Who wants to know?
	If I did it to someone and they wanted to see the picture of me without makeup.
	I guess we'll leave the makeup one on this.
	Is anybody here?
	Is anybody here prepared to make the argument that makeup is not deceptive?
	I don't think that makeup has to be deceptive.
	I think it can be used as deception.
	I think there's three different levels.
	One as an art form, like just like painting or whatever, la.
	One, you're insecure and you are putting on tons of makeup and contouring the fuck out of your face because you don't like how you look and you don't accept how you look.
	And then the other one is just using it, like you were saying, to enhance your beauty.
	Like it just makes you feel a little bit better.
	I think there are those three different categories that I can think of.
	I think the one where you are very insecure and you're trying to cover your face is a deeper issue that's coming out in that way.
	And I don't think that that's healthy or beautiful, honestly.
	Well, I mean, but the art form and the enhancing your beauty, I think, are totally pretty.
	Well, yeah, so I do acknowledge that there are women who do makeup as like the art form or whatever.
	But, I mean, all three are deceptive.
	No, I think deceptive would say, I'm not wearing any makeup when you are.
	That's deceptive.
	But if I'm saying, yeah, I'm wearing tinted moisturizer and I'm wearing mascara and I'm wearing makeup.
	Makeup 20 years ago.
	Makeup 20 years ago to makeup now is a whole lot different.
	There was no contouring.
	There was no, I have a bigger nose.
	I know how to contour it in a way to make it look like I have a smaller nose.
	Things like that, that person is intentionally making their nose smaller for a reason, right?
	They're trying to look different.
	They're trying to look like someone else.
	In that case, I think that is deceptive.
	Because 20 years ago, if I get a big nose, I got a big nose.
	If I'm covering it with makeup, that's just something different.
	So it's the intent.
	It's true.
	Like you could really go crazy with the makeup.
	Like some of the transformations, like the videos that you're playing on, like the other podcast where a girl just literally went from like here to here and it's like night and day.
	That's pretty deceptive.
	And she's obviously trying to cover up her imperfections and her flaws.
	Yeah.
	If you're wearing makeup literally just to enhance and it makes you feel a little bit better, then sure.
	Enhance.
	So deception.
	No, if you have pale skin and you want to bring a little bit of brightness to your skin with a little bit of blush or a little bit of color on your lips, that's not deceptive.
	It is deceptive.
	I just don't want to look like a court.
	But even that's deceptive.
	Is it deceptive?
	Put oil in your hair and make it look shinier.
	Like if I put oil on the tips of my hair, is that like deceiving you?
	Or is that just putting oil in my hair?
	Because it's going to make it healthy and shiny looking.
	Well, we're not talking about hair.
	We're talking about makeup.
	Right.
	applied that same logic to hair or if I like put fake tan on my body is that are you saying that that's deceptive Well, I think so.
	Yes, actually, it would be.
	Okay.
	Well, then, if that's how you're, if that's how you're like categorizing it, I guess, yeah.
	That's not.
	I actually have a bigger issue with push-up bras.
	Well, actually, like at what point or filler.
	Or like at what point is like just taking care of yourself and makeup's not taking care of yourself.
	No, I mean like just getting yourself what put together like doing your hair and feeling put together.
	All of this kind of stuff.
	Like I'm not going to roll out of bed and like just go out and, you know, I'm going to like take a couple of steps and take a little bit of time to like get myself ready for the day.
	And a little bit of makeup shouldn't take an hour, but it also could also just be a part of your getting ready routine in the morning.
	Yeah, sure.
	I mean, I'm not really talking about the length of time it takes to put on makeup.
	I'm talking about is it deceptive?
	But the kind of deceptive deceptiveness you're talking about takes a lot of time.
	Sure, I'll grant that there are degrees to it.
	Like a woman who's wearing full face of makeup is being more deceptive than a woman who just wears like mascara and a bit of blush.
	Deceptive implies ill intent, which I don't think is fair in this conversation.
	There's no ill intent.
	It's not.
	Wait, but if you deceive somebody regardless of your intent, you're still deceiving them.
	No, they're being deceived.
	I'm not deceiving you.
	Deceiving is having ill intent by saying like I love just hearing all the men like goffing, like guffawing over there.
	Yeah, there's a lot of guffawing going on.
	I know.
	The action of deceiving someone.
	A thing that deceives.
	That's helpful, your fucking dictionary.
	I hate that.
	Cause, okay, here's deceive.
	Love a person, cause someone to believe something that is not true, typically in order to gain some personal advantage.
	I'm not saying...
	Give a mistaken impression.
	You can tell the women who are wearing makeup here and not.
	Can you not?
	Wait, but don't you, women also argue, guys don't even know what the minimal makeup, like, you'll argue this is a matter of time.
	Can you tell that I'm wearing makeup?
	I can tell.
	Okay, so I'm not deceiving you because you can tell.
	You're still deceiving me.
	How am I deceiving you when you can tell?
	So I'll tell you exactly.
	So even, okay, as a guy, even if the woman is wearing makeup and you fully know that she is wearing makeup, in fact, you know every single item of makeup that she's wearing and the places where it is, we are not able.
	So attraction is instantaneous.
	So when we see a woman, it's not like some like complicated process that takes long periods of time.
	It's instant.
	She's attractive.
	But if you're doing something, using your own words, to enhance your physical attractiveness, you have essentially done a deception.
	So does your hair naturally lie like that?
	Or did you put product in it?
	That's a little maple syrup in it.
	It's very deceptive.
	I put a little.
	How is that?
	We're not talking about hair.
	We're talking about face.
	But men don't wear makeup.
	Wait, so your beard is really deceptive.
	Is that really what your beards are natural?
	If I was on an island, if I was on an island, I could grow a beard.
	If you were on an island without your makeup, you wouldn't be able to wear makeup.
	Okay, but if you put like beard oil in your hair, it's like it's not that shiny.
	Can I add something?
	Well, I don't think.
	Let's go with her.
	Hold on.
	One sec.
	Well, I'll let you comment in just a sec here.
	These comparisons to like beard and hair.
	One, the beard.
	It's totally ridiculous.
	No, first off, the beard, that's naturally, that's natural.
	No woman can naturally have makeup on their face.
	Like, it doesn't magically materialize, manifest.
	You don't have solitaire.
	Don't, it's okay.
	I know I'm attacking your, what's it called?
	This is a very sensitive subject for you.
	It's not sensitive ideas.
	You're very defensive about the makeup.
	I'm not defensive.
	I'm bored.
	You are dependent on the paint.
	I get it.
	You're dependent on the paint to move through life.
	I get it.
	You feel like I'm attacking you personally.
	I don't feel like you're attacking me personally.
	No, you feel a little defensive about the paint.
	No, I don't.
	If makeup never existed, none of us would care.
	We wouldn't know any different.
	We wouldn't know any different.
	That's true.
	But okay, here's how to finish my point.
	To finish my point on this.
	So no beauty style.
	So would be bad.
	You should be with an Amish woman.
	She'd probably obey you.
	That's a funny, good one.
	Just like your jokes.
	That's cool.
	So anyways, the reason why it's deceptive is because we look at somebody and we make an instant determination as to their physical attractiveness.
	So you've already hooked us.
	You do music, right?
	You're familiar with the term hook in music.
	What's a hook?
	The chorus.
	Something a little catchy to get you invested in the song before you skip to a new next song on Spotify or you switch to a different channel on the radio, right?
	That's what the hook is.
	It hooks you in, right?
	That's what your makeup is achieving.
	The man might be attracted to you even without the makeup, but you said it enhances.
	So if makeup didn't make you look better, would you wear it?
	Like if makeup made you look worse, would you wear makeup?
	Of course not.
	So you are admitting that makeup makes you look more attractive than you actually are, correct?
	It makes, yeah, it enhances your features.
	So how is that not definitionally deceptive?
	Okay, it is deceptive.
	W, check me.
	It's deceptive and it doesn't fucking matter at all.
	This is so fun.
	So right, this is why men should lie about being attorneys when they work at McDonald's.
	It's something different because if it's like deceptive in that way, eventually you're going to see it.
	That's off and it doesn't matter.
	And if she's like a crazy ass bitch who you don't like and who is like faking it, you're eventually going to find out.
	If it's the hook, then that's just the hook.
	Like if the rest of the content is bad, then throw it out.
	And just to be clear, I'm not making the argument that, like, I'm not making the argument that all these dudes who are dating women who wear makeup, even if it's just a little bit, they got duped into the relationship.
	I would say, to be charitable, probably most men who are dating a woman who wears makeup, those men probably would have dated them even if they didn't have the makeup, right?
	I'm not making this argument that it's like it's making such an impact, although sometimes it can be.
	It's making such an impact that these men are dating women that they otherwise wouldn't.
	But if we're going to have like a conversation about the topic, if we're going to exchange ideas, then like and do an analysis, I don't think you can come away from it and not just concede that, yeah, it's deceptive.
	I would like to hear what Sarah says.
	Is that, you want to concede the argument?
	Huh?
	I would like to hear what she has.
	Okay, go ahead, Sarah.
	At this point, I'm like, okay.
	I mean, I feel like.
	See, see how defensive they get about the paint.
	No, no, no.
	I actually, I want to be like very honest because I actually, what you're saying goes in alignment with what my values are, which is like, I want a man to actually appreciate me completely.
	Like, I would rather meet the man that I'm going to spend my life with, like, completely transparently.
	Like, to be honest, if he sees me, like, crying with no makeup on, I'm going to know that, like, that person's going to stick with me because they just want me my worst.
	You know what I mean?
	Or like at like being as natural as possible.
	But I was actually going to bring up the topic of like another component of deception would be like you're seeking people who are natural, but what you are probably also missing is that all the women that you think are natural are actually filled with other things that like I like personally.
	No, Botox and filler.
	Like their face actually isn't what I don't like that shit either.
	And so you think.
	I know.
	No, no, no.
	Like women.
	I know when women have lip filler, trust me.
	I just gotta look at it.
	I know when they have to look at you from the side and I see your upper lips all fucked up.
	Sorry.
	There are women that like that know how to make themselves look extremely natural.
	Sorry, ladies.
	But they are altering their face.
	Yeah, I don't like that shit either.
	So I'm just saying when you're seeking and you're like judging the lady with makeup, the lady with makeup is putting stuff on her face as opposed to the woman who you think is actually doing a better job.
	She's putting stuff in her face.
	Yeah, I don't like that either.
	Wait, I don't like either.
	And both are deceptive.
	Actually.
	But she's not trying to deceive you.
	She's trying to do her best.
	She's trying to put in effort for you.
	I'm just trying to put in effort when I lie about my.
	I'm just trying to help you not be deceived because yours is ill-intent.
	Mine is not a good thing.
	No, I have very strong positions.
	Well, I have very strong positions on plastic surgery, too.
	I'm against plastic surgery.
	Yeah.
	Sweatpants, hair tied, chilling with one of those things.
	No makeup on.
	That's when you're the prettiest.
	I hope that you don't take it.
	Drake.
	Drake said it first.
	Okay.
	Cricket.
	When it comes to the makeup, you're a slave.
	You're born into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch.
	A prison for your mind.
	A prison for your mind.
	Society has told you you're not beautiful unless you're wearing this fucking mascara.
	Society has told you you're not beautiful unless you get this amount of Botox injected into your upper lip.
	But many of you are so accustomed, so hopelessly dependent on makeup that you will fight to protect it.
	Which is why I was so viciously attacked by Pearl and by Sarah.
	I did not attack her.
	So hopelessly dependent on the makeup.
	Like I said, if makeup never existed, nobody would care.
	Nick, do you have our TikTok?
	Dude, go the TikTok.
	We did the TikTok of a girl who said she doesn't like makeup.
	Oh no.
	And the 42 million views.
	So Nick, click on that first one.
	We're not going to watch it.
	Yeah, just click on it.
	Actually, just play it.
	Hold on.
	Start from the beginning.
	Go audio.
	Yeah, we'll watch it really quick.
	I don't like makeup.
	I'm against makeup.
	I don't think it's good for women, and I don't think they really need to be using it, honestly.
	I think it takes away.
	Makeup is capitalizing on women's insecurities when it's something that they can easily fix.
	I think it takes away from a woman's natural beauty, and also it is so bad for you.
	Like, you think about how skin absorbs things.
	When you read the ingredients on a foundation bottle, what is in it?
	You can't even pronounce it.
	It's a bunch of crap that you're putting on your face.
	And that is in turn making your skin worse.
	So you have to keep buying more foundation to cover up what it's creating.
	I don't like it.
	Wait, pause it.
	Go back.
	Yeah, I mean, that's another conversation.
	Wait, Nick, so click on the right.
	It says original sounds.
	She wears makeup.
	It's crazy.
	Wait, she wears makeup?
	Original makeup.
	Oh my gosh.
	It is like minimal, but.
	Okay, so this became used as like a sound on TikTok.
	I've seen it.
	Yeah.
	18,500 women have made videos using this sound.
	And if you notice, they've gone on the offensive.
	Oh, you don't like makeup, singular woman?
	Here's me putting like pounds of this shit on my face as like a, I don't know how.
	A gotcha.
	Well, that woman's a fraud.
	As a clapback.
	As a clapback.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Madison.
	You're welcome.
	So far.
	As they should, period.
	She's a fraud.
	18,000 videos.
	And that's not including the sentiment of like the women watching.
	You guys are so dependent.
	You guys are so dependent on the makeup that you will fight to protect it.
	But where do we draw the line?
	I can tell her hair is highlighted, so she would not highlight her hair.
	Okay, we can have a separate conversation over her being a hypocrite.
	That's a separate conversation, though.
	She could be sitting there with Botoxin right there.
	Her forehead didn't move at all.
	Did you notice that?
	Sure.
	The point is.
	Okay, that's not really the point I'm trying to make.
	I'm just saying.
	You guys got to unplug from the Matrix.
	Can't.
	Unplug from the Matrix.
	I do want to say, though, the people that are responding as a clapback are putting on like pounds of makeup.
	That is deceptive.
	It is.
	It is.
	Look, makeup is the functional equivalent of a man working at McDonald's saying he's a lawyer.
	That's lying.
	That's totally not.
	I personally did not know that you were taking it that personally, but when you lied to me about your job, that is a lie.
	That is a straight-up lie.
	You think guys really care more about it?
	You can ask me to my face.
	Women care about money.
	Yeah, good point.
	What is that saying?
	Men fall in love with their eyes and women fall in love through their ears or some shit.
	No.
	Men like what they see and women like what they hear.
	That's why men lie and women wear makeup.
	Ah, yes.
	There you go.
	Yep.
	Yeah, we'll stop wearing makeup when we stop lying.
	Oh.
	Period.
	Boom.
	W.
	I will make it.
	That's so funny.
	I do.
	Look, I just think, I think it's a lie.
	I think it's deceptive.
	That's dumb.
	I don't think that's dumb.
	Why is it dumb?
	I'm over this conversation.
	She's the outbreak.
	I agree with you, like I said before.
	It's okay.
	Totally.
	You're a little upset.
	Your female voice impression is pretty good.
	Not going to lie.
	Thank you.
	You share our men's voice impersonation.
	Let's hear it.
	Go ahead.
	We do it all this time.
	Let's hear that shit.
	Do it.
	Hey, what are you doing, babe?
	What are you doing?
	Oh, my gosh.
	I don't really want to go over there today.
	Sounds exactly like Brian.
	How much longer does this go?
	Like, what do they mean?
	Like a million years.
	Brian LeConte, girl in red, shove some reality down these face-painted girls' faces.
	You got this, Lol, Brian.
	I don't know how you tolerate this shit, lol.
	Good name, by the way.
	Good name, brian.
	Thanks.
	No, she's unbothered.
	So say bye.
	All right.
	He didn't want to.
	Can you pull up that tweet really quick again?
	Can you pull up the tweet?
	How is this not deceptive?
	Tell me.
	We are saying that.
	Nobody's disagreeing with you.
	Girls do that, though.
	Yes.
	That is very.
	No eyebrows to eyebrows.
	A bigger nose to a smaller nose.
	She went from white to Asian.
	There are so many ways to be deceptive.
	There are more ways to be deceptive than just makeup.
	Like guys who wear toupes.
	Yep.
	Yeah, I agree.
	That's not what they are.
	Even though it's natural, beards are kind of deceptive too, because when they shave that off, it's like, whoa, like you have no jawline.
	And they do give you acne.
	Like, you went from acne.
	Like, it's natural.
	So it's a good idea.
	Like, I'm not even arguing that growing.
	I'll even grant you that men will grow a beard to hide a weak jaw or a weak chin.
	Are you willing to shave it off right now?
	Brian, shave your hair.
	I'll do it for a Bitcoin.
	It's for our shave your beard.
	We'll take off.
	Your girlfriend made some sort of compromise, and she's like, okay, if I stop wearing makeup, then you have to shave your beard.
	No.
	There you go.
	She can take her makeup off and I keep the beard.
	That's how it's going to be.
	But yours will grow back.
	Yours will grow back.
	Your beard will grow back.
	Yeah, it'll grow back.
	So if you're not going to be able to do that.
	I mean, I'll eventually, maybe one of these days I will shave the beard, but I'm chilling with the beard.
	I'll do it for a Bitcoin on stream, though.
	Anybody, any takers, any wealthy philanthropists want to help out a brother?
	What's up?
	Did you?
	She said something.
	Oh, did you have something?
	So if you meet a girl and at the time that you meet, like you ask her, like you are open enough to ask her, like, that you want to see her without makeup.
	Can she ask you to shave your beard off so that neither of you is deceived?
	Does that make sense?
	Like, are you going to be offended?
	Well, so, one, I have photos of me available without the show.
	She shows you photos and you show her photos for an exchange.
	I show you mine if you show me yours.
	How do you know?
	What is your dating process?
	Like, where do you find the women that you date?
	Do you just find them wherever, but like, they're not wearing makeup?
	Or do you ever meet women and they're wearing makeup and then you just kind of wait for the options?
	Like, would you go on a first date if you first encounter that?
	How would that be a problem?
	I don't know.
	I just, I don't.
	Social media date, I don't.
	I meet people in person.
	No offense to people who don't.
	That's just my personal value.
	No, like the girls that come on the show, no offense.
	I mean one or two, you know, I've been like, okay, she's not crazy.
	Most of them, though.
	I'm kidding.
	This was a good pan.
	It was a good panel.
	Anyways, let's move it on.
	We do have to move it on from the minute.
	We've been on the makeup thing for a while.
	But also, hold on.
	Wait, wait, I'm sorry.
	I gotta argue this.
	Makeup is way.
	Even if I grant that men will grow beards because they have a weak chin or weak jaw, that's still like way more makeup alters your appearance way more than a beard.
	Also, I've made this argument before.
	When it comes to facial attractiveness, the top 50% of your face is going to matter way more than the bottom 50% of your face.
	Okay, because during COVID, when everyone would wear masks and they would cover the bar and then they smile and then they would take it off and it's like, holy crap, like only your eyes were attractive, but the rest of your face put the mask back on.
	Sure, I'm not saying it doesn't matter, but if you look at like, okay, I think majority of women who do throw on makeup, it's gonna be, is it gonna be eye makeup?
	Like, depends on the girl.
	And she might be more emphasizing eye makeup versus.
	Are women gonna wear mascara and nothing?
	Are women gonna throw on some mascara or eyeliner and nothing else?
	Or are they more likely to throw on like what's the stuff you put on your face?
	Foundation.
	If they're putting on foundation, are they also gonna put on eye makeup too?
	Yeah.
	I don't know, depends what they know how to do.
	It depends on what we're doing.
	Yeah, like what's the vibe?
	I don't wear makeup to work.
	Yeah, like at work?
	I don't wear makeup 99% of the time.
	In any case, I do think the top 50% of the face is more important.
	Okay, so where did we draw the line of deceptiveness?
	Like where do we're gonna agree to disagree with him?
	Yeah.
	No, but like, okay, so what about like dying hair or like I'm called out?
	No, Like, what, okay, if you dyed your hair, is that deceptive?
	Is it deceptive if you dyed your hair?
	Because like, that's not your natural hair.
	It could be.
	Like.
	But I think with dyed hair, for example, like a woman, if she has dark hair and then she has blonde hair and she's a white girl, a girl could look like her with blonde hair.
	But you put makeup on you.
	Nobody looks like that naturally.
	I'm sorry, but when girls get like, we have a breakup, we change our hair because hair makes like such a big difference.
	Hey, okay, I guess the difference is a girl could naturally be blonde.
	A girl could naturally be brown hair instead of black hair.
	No woman can naturally have like raccoon eyes.
	I don't know.
	That's probably not a popular makeup style.
	But like you can't naturally like some women might have like longer eyelashes.
	But you're not going to have natural purple hair or like pink hair.
	Like all these crazy stuff.
	I don't think that's a good idea.
	I don't think guys like that.
	It's not as deceptive unless you're bald or something and you're hiding that you're bald.
	Oh yeah, like she said, the toupee.
	That's the toupee.
	I think the toupee is a more fair comparison.
	Yes.
	Because also, I suppose, well, it's even less common.
	I was going to say, men can dye their hair, but even that has a little social stigma.
	Not really.
	It does.
	Very, very little.
	It's not as socially acceptable as if a woman dyes her hair.
	It's pretty much the same.
	Nah, I think most women would be like, bruh, you dyeing your hair?
	Because he's going through his midlife crisis.
	I wouldn't think that, but a lot of guys are like going in, but that's what the older people are doing.
	I think a lot of men would be like, a lot of men would clown on their male friends, bro.
	You dye your hair?
	What's going on?
	Sure.
	Most women, if their female friend dyed their hair, they'd be like, gorgeous.
	Super cute.
	Anyways, we'll move on from that.
	Honest to God, my wife of five years has never seen my cheeks.
	Would you date someone who was without criminal record in the U.S., but technically an international terrorist?
	Tourist?
	Tourist?
	What does that even mean?
	Terrorist Riz.
	A terrorist in another country.
	Show of hands.
	Who here would date a terrorist?
	No.
	Okay.
	Brian would?
	He would?
	Sure, I guess.
	All right, let's get through.
	Oh, wait, let's get through all the TikToks first.
	Can you pull up the TikTok?
	There's like two more, right?
	Okay, we'll do this.
	This is my vision for my long-term reach.
	I love this quote by AJ McQueen.
	He says, I pray that the woman that is for me feels like home and a vacation.
	And as someone who wants the same, I've been thinking a lot about this.
	Another creator I follow, Onami Mami, was describing how intimacy, I know, I can predict, I understand we have closeness, is the killer of eroticism, which is surprise and desire.
	So how do we achieve a relationship that feels like home and a vacation when they're diametrically opposed and one is actually the killer of the other?
	I certainly don't have all the answers, but my guess is that it's space.
	If you never have space from your partner, you're always with them.
	You never have the opportunity to evolve into something that may surprise them.
	It also reminds me of this beautiful poem by Khalil Gabron.
	He says, Fill each other's cup, but drink not from one cup.
	Give one another of your bread, but eat not of the same loaf.
	And that's why it like loops.
	Oh, it's the beginning.
	Oh.
	Does the panel agree?
	Why do you disagree?
	I just think that if a relationship works, you can have both things.
	You don't.
	They can surprise you or they can be predictable in other ways.
	And it doesn't necessarily mean one kills the other.
	That's facts.
	I agree.
	Let's just do the next one.
	Same topic.
	Why is no one talking about how you're still settling if you meet your dream man and he doesn't want to pursue?
	You can be every single thing on your list, but if he isn't intentionally taking steps to make you his, you're settling.
	You're also confirming the belief to your own mind that you're not worth being pursued.
	If you immediately or very quickly cut that person off in and out of your life and in and out of your mind, your thought life, your thought life is so important.
	You have to take control of that thing.
	If you no longer engage with thinking about what it could be like with that dream person, you're signaling to yourself that you are worthy of the love that you imagine and therefore will more easily call it in.
	You said the thought?
	Like thought?
	Do you mean like that hoe over there?
	No.
	Oh.
	I thought you were talking about the life inside your mind.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	I actually got confused.
	Like, I agree with the majority of that video.
	But I think that definitely there needs to, like, it's not possible for just anybody to go to go straight to like, oh, I'm fine.
	Like, this is who I am.
	I'm good.
	Like, there needs to be a grieved, like, a grieved thought process to like better yourself.
	It's not like immediately.
	And I also think that, like, when exiting a relationship, it's really important to self-analyze like what you could have done as well, not just like pointing at the person because ultimately for your next relationship, you want to work as a team, not like, oh, what are they doing wrong?
	What am I doing right?
	Type of thing.
	Like, so definitely addressing like just being more self-aware of like what you could have done.
	I think what I meant in this TikTok was like, I think that sometimes you might find somebody, like a guy or something, and you're like, oh my God, he's this and he's this and he's this, and you can be so obsessed with them.
	But that person, if they're not interested in you and they're not pursuing you, and like there's no point in thinking about them.
	There's no point in pursuing them.
	It's like you just kind of have to cut that shit off.
	Can you say the same thing for men though?
	Absolutely.
	Like, can a guy be like, well, she's my dream woman, but she isn't pursuing me.
	Oh, oh.
	And so.
	I think it's more like she's not responding.
	I would say to a man, it would be like, oh, like you're saying, hey, do you want to do this?
	And she's just giving you short answers.
	She's kind of ignoring you.
	Then just move on.
	She's obviously not interested in you.
	If you're pursuing a girl and you want to take her out, she will respond and she'll say, let's do it.
	So you don't need to keep going.
	Just like let it go.
	But I mean, if you said this is your dream guy, you wouldn't be willing to pursue your dream guy.
	He's not your dream.
	I would say that he's not your dream guy if he's not interested in you.
	Your dream man will want to be with you.
	And I think a lot of times as women, it's hard to like, we know that, but like it's hard in practice to be like, oh, right.
	If he doesn't like me, that's an automatic, like, automatically means that I shouldn't be with him.
	But I think also it's hard for men because women a lot of the time will string them along or make them believe like, oh, I could possibly have a chance.
	And then they keep playing that game and then they won't be able to realize that they don't want them because they keep playing this like long game and make them confused about if they're interested in them or not.
	I think we need to get away from the word dream.
	Yeah.
	Because no person is exactly what you think they're going to be.
	The girl would be my nightmare.
	I'm just kidding.
	Oh, I was going to say you would be my nightmare.
	I mean, I don't know about a lot of people.
	We told you Jordan's married, but I don't know.
	I don't think any other person.
	But when I first got married, I thought I had certain thoughts of how my husband was going to be or I was going to beat him.
	I quickly found out that was not the case because I'm thinking, well, I'm going to be different than these other marriages.
	I'm going to be different.
	Mine's going to be different.
	That reality hit smack me in the face real fast.
	Yeah.
	Wait.
	So before we get into everybody's dream man, dream man.
	You mentioned thought, and I want to actually, this question came up.
	Would you prefer to be a little bit more likely?
	Oh, God.
	Here we go.
	Here we go.
	What am I going to ask?
	I don't know, but it's going to be wild.
	Would you prefer to have a thought son or a thought daughter?
	I feel like that one's a little insensitive, Maddie.
	It's a little insensitive.
	This whole podcast is facts.
	Excuse me, Maddie.
	So thought son or thought daughter.
	Would you rather have a thought son or a thought daughter?
	Promiscuous daughter.
	Yeah, from promiscuous daughter.
	A thought son.
	Promiscuous slutty.
	Promiscuous.
	It's definitely neither.
	But you have to pick one.
	If I had to pick.
	A thought son or a thought daughter.
	I do think that Women are in more danger when it comes to like sexual activity.
	So, if I had to pick one, I guess I would pick son.
	Okay.
	Son.
	I wouldn't allow either of them to be if you have to pick.
	I wouldn't allow it.
	You gotta pick.
	They would be sent to boarding school.
	They would be in reform, but they're still at the school.
	Say they're adults.
	They're like men.
	They had thought in boarding school.
	Well, no matter what, they're still in the school.
	If they're an adult at that point, it really doesn't make a difference.
	W Maddie.
	I think, okay, then a guy because it'd be more socially acceptable.
	Okay.
	Yeah, less slut shaming for sure.
	Yeah.
	Guy.
	Yeah, guy.
	I'm going to say, yeah.
	Boys.
	Yeah.
	Thought son.
	Thought son.
	What about you?
	Thought son.
	Wait, let me up the ante a little bit.
	Would you prefer a criminal son or a thought daughter?
	So drug dealer.
	But like not anything too crazy, like cocaine.
	Your son deals cocaine or a daughter who's a slut.
	Which do you pick?
	Jordan loves this question.
	Wait, what's so funny, actually?
	The question is wild.
	So wild.
	These are not things you normally think of.
	I was thinking about this yesterday.
	No, I mean like the average.
	I was in the pool and I was just like, this would be a good question.
	You woke up this morning and you thought, hmm.
	Yeah.
	No, this morning I woke up.
	I was like, I need a pulmonologist.
	Oh, what's going on?
	Yo, if there's anybody in the chat who's a pulmonologist, you have something going on.
	I need an emergency pulmonologist.
	Oh, my God.
	And guys, guys, back to let's sorry, I didn't mean the derail.
	Did I just do the oh my god?
	Give me the contact.
	This is why I didn't have a pulmonologist.
	Because I didn't want to deal with this.
	Criminal drug dealer son who sells cocaine.
	But he's not like involved with the cartel.
	Like, it's not that serious.
	I don't know.
	He's like a low-key, you know.
	He's good at it.
	Dealing to like third graders.
	Just kidding.
	Oh, my God.
	Wait, you said criminal, like, he's been caught and like he's been convicted.
	Oh, he's still criminal.
	Let's just say he hasn't.
	Or are you just saying he's just a drug dealer?
	He hasn't been caught yet, but he could get caught.
	And he deals to hype.
	I hate this question.
	I'll say deals to college kids.
	Okay.
	Would you prefer a drug, cocaine drug-dealing son or a slut daughter?
	Okay, so they're criminal and slutty to the same.
	Chat can answer.
	Chat, chat.
	Wait, chat.
	Answer two.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead, Pearl.
	Go ahead.
	You got this, Pearl.
	I guess.
	Whoa.
	When you're involved in crime, like you could get caught and go to jail and stuff.
	I feel like that's more actually dangerous because it's illegal.
	We're in California.
	They're pretty like.
	I guess thought daughter.
	It's not illegal to be a thought.
	Yeah, it's not illegal to be a thought.
	You can thought around.
	Jail-free.
	I think I would choose the thought daughter.
	Unfortunately.
	Thought daughter.
	If I had to choose, I would choose the daughter.
	I would choose criminal daughter because they would be more lenient to her in the justice system.
	That's not one of them.
	I choose all the above.
	Yeah, I have dogs.
	I have dogs.
	That's where I'm going to go with that because I'm on.
	What if you had a cocaine-dealing dog?
	Well, dogs do smell.
	They use them to find cocaine.
	Dealer, drug dealer, son, or thought, daughter.
	I would say daughter simply because Coke isn't just affecting his life, it's also affecting the lives he's selling to.
	And like, I'm going to choose their lives as well.
	It's affecting the culture.
	What about you, Sarah?
	I'm changing my last answer, and I'm just saying girls for both because I'm not wishing that it were my kids.
	But they are your kids in this question.
	Yeah, you have two kids.
	Not right now.
	Two sons?
	Yes.
	So if you had like a daughter.
	But there's redemption for both.
	Like, full transparently.
	Like, I've been both, and I'm good, and I'm here.
	Okay.
	How, like, thought is a daughter?
	Thought you'd be aware of the best pregnancy.
	Babies.
	I'm kidding.
	But, like, no, no.
	She sleeps with, like.
	She's 20 and she's fucks like 50 dudes.
	Wrong.
	She's probably going to end up.
	That's half wrong.
	I think I would have to get out of here.
	And then, like, another like 30 BJs.
	She's probably going to end up with someone's criminal son.
	Honestly.
	And then, like, at least like 10, where it's like, she doesn't know if to count them.
	Just a tip.
	She lost count.
	She's like, she doesn't know if it's like 50 ago.
	If it counts.
	Okay, you can't make the criminal son like fine and okay and then like a super thoughty daughter.
	They have to be like the same amount.
	Well, it comes with the territory of being a criminal that it's bad.
	So are we saying he doesn't get caught?
	I think we're thinking about this way too much.
	He doesn't get caught.
	If he doesn't get caught, I've got to choose her.
	I would choose the son.
	Yeah.
	I think this scenario has to be he doesn't get caught, but he's selling drugs to third graders.
	To college kids.
	It's getting worse.
	Cocaine.
	He's selling cocaine.
	Anyways.
	The son.
	What do you pick?
	I think I would choose thought daughter, and only because what if my son sold like fentanyl or something?
	No, it's just no, but it's clean.
	Like, how do, like, it's, we have to get if we're being realistic, a lot of that stuff's like not clean.
	And like, what if it killed somebody?
	I think that's.
	Listen, he has very high standards for drugs.
	He deals with a lot of people.
	Do you want us to like pick a certain way or something?
	Because he's making one like extreme.
	I'm just.
	So he doesn't kill anyone?
	No.
	No, he knows that.
	Drug dealers are also like in a dangerous position.
	That's why they tend to stay in all of the world.
	Yeah, but he's not like involved in the body.
	Somebody can be like, but what then he gets like locked up for a long time?
	He's a good drug dealer.
	He's a good deal.
	I'll just say, look, I'm just going to say that.
	I'm just going to say.
	He's the top of the line.
	He's doing super clean drugs.
	They're really great.
	He'll have a great time.
	He's a myth.
	Star student.
	He's a fan of the family.
	Have to ask drug dealers.
	I'm just waiting for them to stop.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, I picked the son who's selling the drugs.
	Because it shows entrepreneurship.
	Oh, my gosh.
	He's a businessman.
	He's handing business.
	Handling his business.
	She's handling business too.
	Oh, dream.
	What's your dream man?
	Moving on.
	Okay.
	Pearl, what's your dream man?
	Go ahead, Pearl.
	You got this.
	He's spiritually aware.
	He's intellectually a match.
	He's emotionally mature.
	He's respectful of women.
	He wants to be a father.
	He obviously appreciates and respects me.
	I'm attracted to him.
	He's ambitious.
	He has leadership qualities.
	Yeah.
	Like Stacey says, no such thing as dream man, but there are definitely non-negotiables.
	Like being a Christian, being a Christian.
	I have a big family, so family-oriented.
	Kind, respectful, shows leadership qualities.
	And I have to be physically attracted to you.
	Valid just like ditto.
	Yes, so believer and someone who brings 50% to the relationship or just as much as I do so we're on an equal level so that we don't have to rely on each other too much.
	Motivated.
	Sense of humor.
	Oh, yeah.
	Compatible.
	You did say in your show notes here that you don't agree with the younger generation thinking men have to do slash pay for everything.
	Right.
	But what's your answer?
	Did you say men should pay for the first date, though?
	I think.
	Oh, if they ask.
	Oh, if they ask.
	I don't know.
	We always talk about this, but what the whole if they ask, but like women don't really ask guys out.
	I did.
	I have.
	I have.
	You did?
	Yeah, I have.
	But more often than not.
	Yeah.
	More often than not, obviously, men are asking them.
	But I have.
	I had more of a Dutch.
	Yes, women do ask men out, but it's overwhelmingly men who ask women out.
	So, I don't know.
	The whole who asks thing ignores this fact.
	I brought that up earlier.
	Oh, you did?
	On behalf of you.
	Was we in the chat?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Any further?
	Just be on the same page with me and agree in a lot of ways.
	Lizzie, does your dream man not live in Japan?
	No, actually, he lives out here.
	They have to be a man of God.
	Wait, you have a dream man?
	Well, I wouldn't say dream, but yeah.
	Wait, there's like...
	Wait, there's a guy?
	I think so.
	There's a guy.
	Liz?
	No.
	No, not like that.
	Well, like, there is.
	There were a guy he would be.
	No, no, no.
	He exists.
	Like, we're very close.
	You're very close?
	Not like that.
	With your dream guy?
	Wait, why don't you just ask him out?
	What?
	Just ask him out.
	That's a hefty question.
	I'm good.
	Wait, it's what?
	So that's like a hefty question.
	I just got to have a relationship.
	I'm not jumping in another one.
	Yeah, but if he's your dream guy, you got to go for it.
	Wait, how long have you known Dream Guy?
	Is it me?
	I'm so in love with you.
	It's crazy.
	But I wear too much makeup, so.
	Disqualified.
	And I'm not Asian enough for you either.
	You're not Asian enough.
	There you go.
	Love is sacrificial.
	Yeah, so he has to be a man of God for sure.
	Ambition.
	He doesn't need to be making X amount, but as long as he goes to work and is a provider, a leader has to have masculinity and respectful, trustworthy, family man for sure.
	I have a really big family too.
	So, yeah.
	Were you friends when you were dating the other guy, the Japan guy?
	No.
	So this isn't new.
	You just met him then?
	No, I've known him, but when I'm in a relationship, I cut all guys out.
	But how long have you known he's your relationship?
	You said you're really close to him.
	Yeah, because I was before the relationship, and now I'm close to him again because I'm not in the relationship.
	How long have you known he was your dream guy, though?
	Okay.
	Is he your dream guy?
	You kind of have to get to know somebody for real to know they're your dream guy.
	I've known him for like a couple years.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Sarah, what you got for us?
	Believer.
	Yep.
	Loves my boys.
	Loves me.
	That's it.
	You doing it?
	You taking them off?
	What?
	I thought that was for later.
	Did you swipe?
	I was going to take it off.
	Did you swipe one?
	What do you mean?
	No, that's also a good idea.
	Oh, can I?
	No.
	Why?
	Those are for podcast makeup removers only.
	If I gave you a buck fifty, would you let me have one?
	You don't want that.
	It's really bad for your skin.
	Yeah, I know it really is.
	Maddie, your dream guy?
	And don't answer that.
	Okay.
	I was just going to describe my boyfriend anyway.
	Ava, dream guy.
	You want to know?
	Well, I was going to describe my boyfriend, too.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, you can, if you want.
	Okay.
	Max.
	Is he shredded?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I don't, like, that's not a requirement for me.
	And believe it or not, I am more into personality than anything else.
	But he is shredded.
	Word.
	That's not a requirement, though.
	He's just hot.
	He just has it.
	Yeah, baby, she's gone.
	He's gone.
	Oh, you're not.
	Your desire.
	Nice.
	Okay, so that was super sus, my bad.
	Nick put me up to it.
	Nick sent me a private chat.
	He's like, Brian, be sus for like, yeah.
	What's your dream?
	Is that it?
	Oh, my type.
	My dream girl.
	Dream slave.
	Servant.
	Yes, slave.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Hold on, I'll pull it up.
	I got my notes.
	This cleans my eyes the moment she looks at me.
	No makeup.
	Wait, what?
	He said, show us, you dream girl.
	Instantly bows.
	You should.
	A bow?
	Oh, we'll do that in just a second.
	I should make it like some sort of like AI image describing that.
	You should.
	Put it in the description.
	And then you can show it every day.
	Didn't we do that?
	Oh my God.
	It'll probably be a picture of you.
	We did that.
	Have you guys ever done the test thing where you can put in and find out the percentage of like if you'll find your dream person, you go through all those questions and then it gives you a percentage?
	We do that for the girls.
	I think so.
	Oh, the calculator?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we can do that.
	Or we've done it.
	What am I?
	My dream girl, let's see.
	I'll date any height, but dream girl.
	I don't know.
	Height, don't really care.
	She can be short, she can be tall.
	Don't care.
	Well, this is your dream, so you make her whatever.
	Okay, so it's hard though, because for kids, having kids, tall's better.
	Like, if she's tall, that's better for the kids.
	Because you want to have warrior children.
	Desert Joe donated $69.
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	Love that cleavage window below the cross.
	Aww.
	That what?
	I think I'm talking to Ava.
	Yeah, I have boobs.
	They're just on my chest.
	They're just there.
	There's nothing she can do about it.
	TTS is 69 Desert Joe.
	Guys, get your TTSs in.
	$69 TTS, appreciate it.
	Wait, where were we?
	Height.
	Oh, height.
	Yes.
	Tall, better for the kids, but like personal preference in terms of what I think is most attractive, prefer like short.
	Petite.
	Old Man Marine donated $69.
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	5, 6.
	Even though you're really hot, your brows are fake AF456, 7,8, 9 for Morgan.
	Brian, you're 10.
	Always a 10.
	Sub, dude.
	Thank you, bro.
	Can I comment back on that?
	About my brows?
	Go ahead.
	Not about your brows.
	Because it was going in order.
	So I got the four.
	And so I did today.
	I bought something for the first time.
	I bought like the eyebrow stuff you put on because mine are so blonde, they like don't exist.
	So I'm like, I've tried a new thing.
	Yeah.
	They look good.
	They look nice.
	Dream girl.
	Dream girl.
	Any race is fine, but Asian or white or Waysian.
	But I'll date a Latina.
	Or a black girl.
	Or a Native American.
	Or an Indigenous.
	Or an alien.
	Oh, Aboriginal, excuse me.
	Or an alien.
	Did we ask him about what?
	If you would date an alien, sign me up.
	Only if they had big labia.
	Nick, hashtag big labia matter.
	Yeah.
	Dream girl, my dream girl would have the biggest labia in the world.
	Like, it's not that I just want a girl with an Audi.
	Like, I want like a Guinness World record holder pussy.
	Okay.
	Can we?
	Is that so wrong?
	Is that so wrong?
	Just take steroids then, right?
	What you want to know?
	Just steroids then, right?
	What do you want to do?
	What is your obsession to get in a large tourist?
	Large labia?
	Yeah, like what do you do with that?
	Well, first I need to ask: are you, do you support my cause?
	Of course.
	Because I don't want to talk about this with somebody who isn't part of the BLM movement.
	Through it all.
	Okay, just check it.
	Just check it.
	What is it?
	I just want to.
	I don't know.
	Like, I've been on the search for, I've been on the search.
	Like, I will only date a girl with a big labia.
	I did have a question that I thought of that I wanted to bring up.
	You know how women say BDE?
	Big dick energy.
	Yeah.
	Do any of us have BLM?
	I mean, BLE.
	Big labia.
	BLE.
	Big labia energy.
	Yeah, like, would you know that her labia is big just by talking to her?
	You're going to like pick one of us out who gives you, oh, yeah, you dead.
	BLE.
	Daddy got one.
	You have BLE.
	Wait, hold on.
	Are you asking me, like, to choose who has a big labia?
	Yeah.
	Who has big labia energy?
	Yeah, out of all of us, who has BLE?
	Please don't guess who actually has a big labia.
	Okay, but that's sick.
	I think so.
	I can imagine he's wrong.
	But women say BDE all the time.
	I'm just wondering.
	Or they SDE, small dick energy, too.
	Yeah, exactly.
	They shame the men.
	It's not.
	They usually be.
	I don't think we shouldn't shame women if they have a big labia.
	Thank you.
	Oh, I wasn't saying that.
	But no, but you shouldn't shame men.
	I did look right at you before.
	Because I meant to be like, you know, I don't like when you shame.
	We shouldn't shame men.
	So honestly, when it comes to the big labia energy here at the table, and it doesn't mean you have a big labia.
	You could be rocking like the Audi, the inniest innie and have big labia energy.
	So honestly, I think it's Lizzie and Jordan.
	You two have big labia, like the most big labia energy.
	I feel kind of proud.
	Let's go.
	I'm saying that to like I said.
	Like, sorry to the rest of you.
	Like, Matt, actually, Matt, like, I mean, it's a given Maddie has it, but like, she already knows.
	Yeah.
	Like, she should.
	As far as like who has like a no, don't.
	Oh, no, don't do that.
	I have no idea.
	There's no way to tell.
	Oh, my God.
	There's, I wish there was a way.
	Unless she had the biggest camel toe.
	I don't know.
	Is that whole time?
	You said that shit so straightforward.
	Like, this is just a casual conquer.
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	Hashtag Innies4, the WinHouse Attack.
	Tiny Ladies Matter BS Pearl definitely has a wizard.
	Hey.
	Giving off mega big BLE.
	Yo, yo, yo, yo.
	First off, please don't be shaming ladies if they got a large labia, okay?
	And if Pearl does have a wizard sleeve, there will be a guy who will love it and who will whatever she has right now.
	Her guy loves it.
	That's all we need to know.
	This show is so much.
	She has me rolling.
	Erroneous.
	Exactly.
	Erroneous.
	Erroneous.
	Hashtag Big Labia Matters.
	Wait, why do we give you BLE?
	Wait, yeah.
	Can you like dig into that?
	It's in the eyes.
	Dig into the.
	It's so dumb right now.
	I don't get it.
	Simple Acorn $5,513 donated $69.
	Question for the panel.
	If women don't need men, then would you, as women, support the infrastructure because you're so valuable?
	Well, we can get to that.
	We can get to that, but I kind of need to talk a little more about big labia.
	So.
	You're done.
	I am.
	Look, I'm just saying.
	I'm looking for the Guinness World Record holder for why.
	He's wanting to put her in a compliment.
	It's not just having an Audi.
	It's like having world.
	I'll accept country-level world record.
	Like, it doesn't have to be.
	Bloodhound ears.
	Please don't be insensitive to women.
	I don't think that's.
	I don't think he really has to justify.
	I think it's just like how women are like, I want a really big, you know what?
	I want a guy with a huge pee-pee.
	Yeah.
	It's the same exact thing.
	Please don't clip that.
	It's not something I put much that into it.
	Oh my gosh, I'm going to on my own personal.
	Brian.
	Look at the time stamp literally.
	Is Brian gay?
	Question mark?
	Exclamation.
	Brian Kaby, as Wanzi.
	Question mark, question mark, question mark.
	Oh my gosh.
	Does anybody, okay, I'm just curious.
	Does anybody hear low-key, high-key, whatever, like have an Audi?
	I'm not.
	answer this no and the reason i'm asking the reason no the reason i'm asking i want to know if you've ever like been shamed for it by a guy I know a lot of people who were.
	No.
	Wait, you know what?
	I know people who are or were.
	You mean they got it cut off?
	No.
	I'm like shamed for it.
	If I'm being shot.
	I've been shamed for things, but I'm not going to specify what exactly, but I've been shamed for, you know, the way parts of my body looks.
	Do you have a tail?
	Yeah, I do.
	Really long one.
	I hide it in my shorts.
	Okay, if I'm being like totally honest, I don't really exactly know what a labia is.
	Can I eat that, girl?
	Well, welcome to Brian's Anatomy class.
	You can say it on people.
	So the inner lips that hang down, not the outer lips, but the inner lips that are menorah and medora.
	No, you shamed it.
	No!
	Amazing.
	Oh, that's shame.
	Shamed.
	I told her what it was, and she said every out.
	Okay, I didn't know what it was.
	It's anatomy.
	I freaked out as much as beautiful.
	Don't call me out like that.
	As much as feet.
	You massage me.
	Liz.
	I'm revoking your big labia energy.
	No, give me a hug.
	I'm revoking.
	Revoke.
	Give it to me.
	She was disgusted when I explained it to her.
	She was disgusted.
	She's like calling me out and it's like not okay.
	You told me I could say it loud on the mic.
	And then I asked you to define it.
	Not exposing it.
	She is done.
	Ava is done.
	She is done.
	I say that like all the time.
	What else is there?
	I'm still holding strong.
	Look, I'm just saying, I only date women like that.
	Okay, would you say it's deceptive for women to wear pants?
	Pants?
	Because you can't.
	You can't totally deceptively what they got in their pants.
	It is.
	These women in their fucking pants.
	It's the yoga pants.
	He's free.
	The yoga pants will be.
	The yoga pants can tell you.
	He doesn't want a woman that's modest.
	He doesn't want them wearing no pants everywhere they go.
	Well, then how can he tell?
	Why do you choose your mate if you have this big requirement for the Guinness World Record with such daughters?
	Sorry.
	I'm off the burkini.
	Yeah, you guys are put on the tight burg kini.
	I will figure it out.
	I will defend Audis to the death, okay?
	Don't you disrespect my can I ask you?
	Don't disrespect the big lady.
	Okay, but I have to know, like, how did this fetish start?
	This is sensitive for me.
	Okay, but how did this fetish start?
	Like, I need to know.
	Fetish?
	What?
	Do women who like big dicks, does that mean they have a fetish?
	No, okay, sorry.
	A preference.
	How did this reference?
	Out of this preference.
	Okay, fine, I got it.
	I wonder if these attract the BLEs.
	How did it start?
	Yeah.
	Shit.
	It started in the third day.
	Oh, my.
	Wait, what is Adie?
	Wait, what is she today?
	I think the Celsius is like finally hitting hours later.
	Get your mind out of the gutter.
	Brian's like, get your mind out of the gutter.
	Whoa.
	Get your mind out of the gutter.
	Pearl's loving this conversation.
	We're just sitting.
	Are we wrapping up soon?
	No, where are we going?
	We're going to wrap.
	What time are we ending?
	Soon.
	Like in 20 minutes?
	Probably not.
	So, anyways.
	What were we talking about?
	Where APIs.
	Oh, how did I lose your ears lizard question?
	Did you just call me Lizard?
	Lizard.
	Yes.
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	Anyways.
	Anyway.
	Yeah.
	Can you answer the question of how the obsession originated for you?
	I think he's just advocating for all women, honestly.
	But he's attracted to it.
	You love it.
	So you're very curious about this.
	I mean, you are.
	Either he saw the video or he saw it.
	Organization.
	That's true.
	That is true in the pudding.
	Proof in the pudding.
	You just want the Guinness.
	Proof in the labia.
	Guinness World Record.
	I want the Guinness World Record.
	Okay, but.
	The biggest labia.
	Why?
	And how did this start?
	Just.
	Look, a man likes what he likes.
	That's fine.
	A man likes what he likes.
	I'm not even saying that you shouldn't like it.
	I just want to know why.
	Or at least, how did you know or when did this start?
	I feel like it's, I mean, I can articulate it, but it's like the Cooter Bacon refreak.
	I said what I said, and it's true.
	He said what he said.
	Cooter bacon.
	Cooter bacon.
	Brian likes cooter bacon.
	That's a new one.
	I haven't heard that.
	That is a new one.
	Tell you what, I'll tell you after the show if you're really that.
	What?
	You're not going to say this after all this.
	I mean.
	You can just say it.
	Did you just see a couple girls and you thought, like, oh, I like that?
	Yeah.
	Okay, here's kind of, I don't know if this is going to make logical sense, but like, so a woman, and don't get me wrong, like, any pussy's still good pussy, right?
	Ryan.
	Not to be confused.
	Got it.
	Oh, wait, Desmond Shaw.
	I hate Desco or something.
	I hate it too.
	You don't think any pussy's still good pussy?
	No.
	Oh, Desmond also, I guess, likes pick the lady.
	Okay.
	So, so, hold on.
	GMD Jim donated $69.
	Brixon, every week I say you can't find one more Delulu than the last, and then you find Pearl.
	You never cease to amaze.
	She's in the bathroom.
	Good to see you.
	I will re-trigger it.
	I will re-trigger it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Good to see you, Jim.
	Appreciate it.
	Durin, thank you for the gifted 10.
	Wait, so where were we?
	You were telescopes.
	So, okay, this is.
	I don't know if this is going to make sense, but like, if a girl has like full-on super any, it's like, this is, oh my God, I'm going to get.
	Am I going to get canceled for this?
	It's like, you're not fucking a pussy.
	That sounds so bad.
	Let's move on.
	Wait, hold on.
	It's like, it's just like a hole.
	There's no pussy.
	There's no pussy.
	Yet, men still do that.
	Men just need a hole.
	No, but.
	But, like, so it's kind of a visual, it's a visual thing, which leads me into my next thing.
	So there's this like, okay, lips that grip.
	Stop it.
	Desmond knows what I'm talking about.
	Now look at the picture.
	And for some, I just that visually is like, because if she's got an any, I can't believe I'm fucking exposing this.
	If she's got an any, the penis just disappears.
	But if she's got an Audi, there's still the pussy.
	The pussy's still there.
	Do you know what I'm talking about, Desmond?
	Oh my gosh.
	It's kind of.
	This sounds ridiculous, but it makes sense to me.
	Chat, do you know what I fucking mean?
	God, my.
	SOS.
	I give you credit for men playing and explaining.
	I'm trying my best.
	I don't understand.
	Again.
	I've darkened.
	I don't understand what you mean by it.
	Do so.
	You don't need to.
	I think we can move on.
	I think we can go.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's my test.
	Being immature.
	You are.
	I think you're just curious.
	I could be immature.
	Psychopathic Gaming donated $69.
	You heard it here, Chat and World.
	Brian views Vegin as simply lips.
	Time to cancel this misogynist.
	Hashtag T L M. What is that?
	C O They're called Lips.
	Wait, what?
	Well, vagina.
	Like, it's.
	Wait, what?
	All right, moving on.
	Yeah.
	Well, we can see it.
	Moving on.
	Look.
	It's out there.
	It's all out there.
	You explain.
	Oh, I actually love the grippage.
	No, you don't.
	No, I do.
	I have a more uncomfortable question for him.
	Okay, well, what about clit size?
	Oh!
	I need to see.
	I love her laugh.
	I mean.
	That's crazy.
	Small clit, big clit.
	Don't really care.
	Giant clit.
	It's probably easier to make her calm.
	Tell me to take her mic away.
	I don't.
	Giant.
	It doesn't do anything for me in the same way that like big labia does.
	Okay.
	Don't care.
	She could have a giant clit.
	She could have a small clit.
	Don't care.
	It doesn't.
	Anyway.
	Is this too sensitive for your virgin ears, Jordan?
	No, I think lock half the panel here is just ready to move on.
	This is where we draw the line as labyrinth.
	This is hilarious.
	This is where we draw the line.
	It's very B-L-E of me to want to move on.
	You guys asked.
	Liz, you're the one who was asking.
	No, I know.
	And I'm spreading every big lizard energy.
	High lizard.
	Am I wrong?
	I truly miss the person I used to be before this conversation.
	it's like lipstick rip it's like we already heard you You did a very good.
	You did very good explaining, but yeah, you explained it in a very detailed.
	We get it.
	We get it.
	I feel like I need to really hammer this game.
	You gave a really manly edge.
	I don't understand.
	No, we get it.
	Let's talk more about pussy for a little bit.
	No, we get it.
	We're the ones that have.
	Even though saying that word, like, the KBGs, yeah.
	All right.
	Psychopathic gaming dimensions.
	Brian just wants to spread the BC.
	I wish I could.
	I want to see that, Christian.
	Oh, my God.
	Can we leave now?
	I feel like I've been laughing for so long.
	What's wrong with that?
	All right.
	All right, gosh.
	Come on.
	Okay, let's get into.
	We got to finish all the show notes here.
	So let me see where we're at here.
	Oh, really quick.
	We'll do the bow video.
	And I'll just, I'll wrap up on what I want that's not lately done.
	Let's see.
	This is this is, Pearl's going to love this.
	Play for Pearl.
	This is dedicated to Pearl.
	Boom.
	Huge bow.
	Did you see that, Pearl?
	Did you like that?
	Into the mic.
	Pearl, tell us what you think.
	Pearl, tell us what you think.
	Pearl?
	What about the bow?
	It seems more cultural.
	i'm a white guy oh so you want to be with that's just how you say hello when you're asian You're like, you greet someone with a bow.
	Yeah, but like, I would expect this from a white girl.
	You know what I mean?
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Do whatever you want.
	I mean, her eyes are a little crazy, but I can get, I can, I dig it.
	Show this a bow one more time.
	You should definitely be with an Asian woman, though.
	Boom.
	No, white girl can bow too.
	So this is what I want in a relationship.
	Pearl, do you.
	You give me your blessing, Pearl?
	You give me the bow blessing?
	I mean, I'm not, I wouldn't bow to someone if it wasn't cultural.
	But I mean, I'm Asian, so yeah, like when I greet my grandparents, I do that.
	Would I do it to you?
	No.
	To your man.
	If you were dating a white guy.
	And he wanted me to be.
	Not just any white guy, a wasp.
	No, I wouldn't do that shit.
	White Anglo-Saxon Protestant.
	That's really, really specific.
	From Martha's Vineyard.
	No, I wouldn't.
	A white guy who grew up in Martha's Vineyard.
	Would you give him a bow?
	Martha's vineyard.
	Martha's.
	Excuse me.
	No, I wouldn't.
	You wouldn't?
	No.
	Even if he was your dream man?
	He wouldn't be my dream man.
	Even if he was your dream man?
	He's not my dream man.
	He's your dream man.
	No, he's not.
	I just said he is.
	Deal with him.
	I just said he's not.
	Deal with it, Brad.
	I just said he's your dream man.
	Deal with it, Pearl.
	He's not.
	But he is.
	But he wants you to bow.
	Then no.
	So he's not your dream man just because he wants you to bow.
	And everything that it implies.
	Yes.
	What about your man now that you have if he wanted you to bow?
	He's not going to ask me to bow.
	You want to get married?
	Yes.
	You want to have kids?
	Yes.
	You want a guy to propose to you?
	Yeah.
	You want a guy to buy you a ring?
	Yes.
	How much should he spend on the ring?
	I don't know.
	You'd be fine if you paid $10 on a wedding ring.
	I wouldn't be fine with $10, but I don't know how much I would want him to spend.
	$25.
	More than $100?
	More than $1,000?
	What is the point of this?
	Why?
	Because it's a handsome question.
	I think that he can spend what he thinks.
	He can spend the amount of money that he wants to spend on a wedding ring because it also reflects him.
	So whatever he thinks, I want to be with someone financially responsible.
	I want to be someone who's also generous.
	So the person who is both of those things can spend however much money they want to spend on it.
	And you would want a guy to get down on one knee to propose to you?
	I mean, I think that's, yeah, probably traditional.
	Yeah, it's like tradition.
	Traditional.
	Yeah.
	So you want a guy to kneel, look up at you, kneel, but you won't bow for that man?
	Those two things are not related at all.
	Totally related.
	Just because you say something doesn't make it true.
	No, but they are very similar to me.
	Everything I say makes it true.
	But that checks out with your whole psyche and the whole podcast and everything.
	Wait, isn't that your position?
	I think I'm a 10, therefore I am.
	No, that is not my position.
	That is your position.
	I think I'm a 10.
	I'm a bad.
	I've donated $69.
	Okay, Pearl, you look bored.
	I am bored.
	Remember when you said you were a 10?
	I do remember that.
	Earlier, I rated you a 5 and then down to a 2.
	All you see is dollar signs and your Delulu dissonance.
	Take a bow, Bearl.
	Thank you.
	Womp, wamp boo who.
	Wamp on.
	You're the one who's spending money to talk to me.
	Do you want to hit a bow, though?
	Do you want to do a bow right now?
	That would be a really good way.
	We're not going to end the show, but to end the show.
	Definitely never going to do that.
	You wouldn't do a bow?
	No.
	Unless my grandparents were here.
	I would do a bow for them.
	Could I ask a question to Pearl?
	Can I adopt you?
	So that I could be like a parent figure.
	Are you going to financially support me with this adoption?
	I can still adopt you.
	Then no.
	Okay.
	That was weird.
	That was weird, though.
	On my part, honestly.
	That was a bit weird.
	Definitely.
	I'm self-aware.
	Go ahead.
	I was just going to ask, you know how you keep saying about how people are donating to him?
	Uh-huh.
	Like, do people pay for your music?
	Yeah.
	And they feel entertained and they pay for the music because they want to, because they're entertained by it, right?
	I feel like that's the same thing as people donating to Brian.
	No, I mean, this is, I mean, I totally get the business model.
	I totally get why it's profitable and I respect it, even though I don't think it's doing like that much good in the world, like legacy-wise.
	Like, you could do whatever you want.
	However, it's fire.
	definitely um but i think that wait what are you doing Huh?
	What are you doing?
	What do you mean, what am I doing?
	You said this is not doing.
	I personally just wouldn't do this kind of work, like the work that you're doing.
	It created more of a gender divide between men and women.
	Well, I personally wouldn't be a 32-year-old pursuing a music career, but I mean.
	Okay, well.
	Yeah, that's why we're different.
	Yeah.
	How's that going, by the way?
	Oh, I think it's just like the insult, like that part of it, that I'm like, you're literally paying money to insult someone.
	Not to contribute to the business.
	That's totally.
	I get that.
	Yeah.
	But to tell someone, I rated you as a five and now you're down.
	Wait, hold on.
	Oh, wait, hold on.
	You are contributing to the gender divide.
	You make TikToks directed towards women.
	Oh, Queen, you should, if a guy doesn't want to pay for the first date, then, oh, didn't know that you just wanted to be friends.
	But you're doing the same thing.
	I didn't know that it was going to be this like crazy thing that created this gender divide.
	I could have easily capitalized on that and created more and more TikToks into the same vein, but I was like, that's actually not within my value system to continue doing that.
	I didn't know that it was going to be this big thing, and I decided to not go down that lane actually because I don't want to be a part of it.
	You're still doing relationship TikToks.
	Yeah, but it's not on purpose to be controversial for profit.
	I don't know TikTok to Well, but can you take a video down?
	Huh?
	Yeah, you can take a video down.
	Well, if you disagree with it after the fact, now why don't you take it down?
	I don't disagree with it, but people are getting in like conversations in it for sure.
	Also, a little bit on your point: there's been news articles that have posted her video, so even if she did delete it, there's still these articles out there that they're only gonna last so long.
	And I've also like created follow-up videos and stuff.
	And if people really want to get into a deep dive of what I actually think, they'll know.
	But no one really does.
	They just see the initial video, and that's not really my.
	I'm not gonna police what people do on my TikTok is too, anyways.
	It's just people having that same mindset, and even if they watch a video, it's not gonna change their mindset, even if they agree or disagree with it.
	But I'm not gonna capitalize on it just for like profit, you know what I'm saying?
	Is my perspective.
	But have you made money off TikTok, if you don't mind me asking?
	Yes, I have.
	Okay.
	So, wait, what?
	She said she doesn't profit off of the ideas or the things that she's posted, but she has made money off of TikTok.
	No, I'm not going to continue to create things that I don't actually believe in or that I feel like contribute to the gender divide.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Do you think that video contributed to the gender?
	Do you think that that video contributed to the gender divide?
	I am the number one contributor to the genders coming together and liking each other more.
	That's why he thinks we should all be drafted.
	I believe in equality.
	You're fine.
	I have testimonials from people who watch the show.
	My relationship with my girlfriend has gotten way.
	GMD Jim donated $69.
	Hey, Delulu, kneeling during a proposal is not an Asian tradition.
	It is a medieval European tradition.
	Don't appropriate European culture.
	Thank you, Jim.
	Appreciate it.
	Oh, wait, there was something from Jim we had to go back to.
	Oh, I was going to replay this one.
	Sorry.
	Good, good.
	Thank you, Jim.
	This is.
	GMD Jim donated $69 to Brixon.
	Every week I say you can't find one more Delulu than the last, and then you find Pearl.
	You never cease to amaze.
	Pey, good to see you on the podcast again.
	Cool.
	Do you have a response?
	Oh, no, it just makes me happy that people on the show don't like me.
	They like you, Pearl.
	No, they don't.
	Pearl.
	No, I like that.
	That they dislike you?
	Yes, I like when people who I misalign with dislike me.
	Do you think I dislike you?
	I don't know.
	I think we disagree.
	I don't know if you dislike me or not.
	I don't tend to dislike, even if I disagree with people on Pen, I very rarely dislike people.
	Unless they're being like rude or nauseous.
	Yeah, I think disagree is very different from dislike.
	Yeah, no matter what the comments that they say, you never know if they don't know you, so they don't actually dislike you.
	I think they just disagree and they want to comment about it.
	I'm just saying.
	Wait, speaking of like rude and disliking, you had like this crazy person on your podcast like a week or two ago.
	Desiree.
	Okay, like what happened?
	I like that.
	The Rosetta Stone donated $69.
	Plane crashes in a swamp and everyone on the plane dies except you.
	Rather run across random man or alligator in the swamp.
	BTW still have PTSD from seeing X without makeup.
	Red dress thumbs up.
	You should see a therapist about the PTSD man.
	I'm sorry.
	I had to do about six months after my girlfriend took a makeup wipe to her face.
	We don't talk about that.
	Yikes.
	Desmond gets my humor.
	Wait, so look, what I wait, what?
	Oh, no.
	Oh, this is alligator.
	Would you rather come across a random man?
	He heard my thought.
	You heard my thought.
	Or alligator in the swamp.
	Random man?
	A random man.
	He heard my thought.
	Random man or alligator in the swamp.
	Huh?
	Sorry?
	What was I saying?
	Random man or alligator in the swamp.
	Oh, random man.
	Man.
	Man.
	I want to say man, but I also want to say alligator.
	But he's going to fight it.
	Okay, the only reason is because I saw a TikTok of like this guy asking like a bunch of dads if they would rather their daughter run into an alligator or a bear or a man, and they all said bear.
	That's because I was like, okay, well, their dad and they're like thinking of like the safety of their daughter right first initially.
	So I'm like, okay, there has to be a reason for that because, in my opinion, guys, like think ahead for those kind of decisions.
	But what would your dad say?
	Probably alligator, depending.
	My dad would definitely say man.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I'm only saying that because of that video, because it was like literally a handful dad.
	So Sarah, alligator or men?
	Hands down alligator because food.
	What?
	Oh, are you going to kill it and eat it?
	You're going to eat the alligator?
	You just crashed on a plane and everybody else passed away.
	She is addressing.
	That's true.
	That is true.
	You need food.
	Couldn't you.
	Cannibal?
	No.
	Oh, so.
	I don't know.
	But they all passed away.
	That's what I'm saying.
	That's a weird question.
	That made no sense.
	Okay, how about this?
	Walking Roscoe underscore on underscore YouTube donated $77.77.
	Lady in red dancing with me, cheek to cheek.
	You have an infectious laugh, fanning your face with your hand makes you to a seven in my eyes.
	Check the bowling clip on you to see if I make you smile.
	Stop it.
	Get some help.
	Walking Roscoe.
	This is a simp-free zone.
	This is a simp-free zone.
	Oh, this is so good.
	She's getting like just imagine you actually create a couple through this podcast.
	Well, you know what's funny, Liz?
	A lot, I don't reveal it because some people respect their privacy, but a lot of girls who've come on the show and we've had some guys come on the show met people through the show.
	Really?
	Like, there's a guy who's been on the show who's now dating a girl who's been on this show.
	I think I know who you're talking about.
	Because don't say it.
	Don't say it.
	I'm not.
	I'm not.
	Do you?
	Oh, no, no.
	We'll talk after.
	Okay, we can talk after.
	But a lot of, and a lot of girls will be like in relationships and they'll be like, yeah, some guy DM me who watched, who saw me on the show.
	Now I'm dating them.
	I know you said no, Simps, but I just wanted to say thank you for the sweet comment.
	It's beautiful.
	It is beautiful.
	Thank you, Washington.
	Appreciate it.
	Oh, you have a crush on me?
	Thanks.
	Good times.
	Oh, what I want really quick.
	Also, look, I just want to bring, I just want a girl who can be a slave that I can bring to Hawaii.
	I just want to pay for a traditional Hawaii.
	Can't a guy do that?
	If that made you happy, you're going to be forking ecstatic then.
	Selling your demo tape alone in your 30s is only going to bring you sadness.
	So, hopefully, this balance the scales.
	Happy to help.
	Thank you, Josh K. Thank you, Josh K. Thank you, bro.
	Appreciate it.
	There you go.
	Lucky getting some love from Pearl there.
	Whoa, she does the other kind of heart.
	Only Gen X or whatever does that.
	Yes.
	She did the that one.
	Do you know how to churn?
	No.
	Your fingers are different.
	Different generations do the different things.
	Yeah, we don't know how to do that.
	Oh, my God.
	Are you?
	She said my fingers looked mangled.
	Well, she tried to do it, but she was like, I was like, what?
	No, she was close.
	Come on.
	I can't do it.
	She's in a season.
	So, I don't know what that is.
	All I'm trying to say is.
	All I'm trying to say, as far as what I want.
	Yes.
	I just want a girl who I can take on a trip with me all night.
	That's it.
	That's all I want.
	She's probably married.
	That's all I want.
	With no makeup.
	Who knows how to churn butter?
	Very important, okay?
	I don't even know how to ask how much.
	Pearl suggested it.
	I was looking for a woman who knows how to quilt and churn butter.
	Okay.
	Notice.
	And you slide into my.
	I guess my DMs are open if you know how to churn.
	But they wouldn't have a phone, so that's important.
	How am I going to meet?
	I'm going to have to roll up to the fucking Amish farm.
	Pearl, will you come with me to an Amish farm?
	What are you doing out here?
	Will you be my wing woman?
	I'll be your wing woman for anytime.
	All right.
	Thanks, Pearl.
	She's a killer wing woman.
	All right.
	Let's okay.
	Let's get through all the notes here so we can hopefully wrap this up soon.
	Let's see.
	We have.
	Who do we have?
	We have Jordan's friend.
	Oh, my God.
	I just was.
	It was a little banter.
	Okay.
	You said, don't agree with current feminism making females out to be weak and men are the enemy.
	I'm a strong woman myself.
	Do you want to expand a bit on the feminism making females out to be weak and men are the enemy?
	Well, I've heard on a lot of the podcasts before that it's the idea going along with how men need to pay for everything or the men.
	I don't mean to pick on you, Pearl.
	I really don't.
	You can because you're your own person.
	You can feel any way that you want.
	But the whole of men should be honored to be with me and the whole thing.
	I don't feel that that does any kind of a benefit for you for women who think that way.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	So sorry.
	It's for women who are empowered.
	If they can pay, they can hold everything on their own.
	And I don't feel that I need a man to do any of that.
	And that's where I'm going with that.
	So I don't know if I answered your question because he's more concerned with the baby.
	Wow.
	Do you guys all agree with that?
	Any disagreements?
	I honestly don't.
	I honestly don't disagree with all of it.
	Like, I mean, I don't think I'll ever be in a situation where I'm not making money.
	Like, I'm not adding value into the world and being compensated financially.
	And it's like, I think, super important for women to build their own wealth, to understand, like, to have financial literacy, to understand how to invest, to like have control over their finances.
	And yeah, to like feel the power of doing that.
	I really think that that's important for women to do and also available for us to do.
	And at the same time, I think that at least, you know, like when I'm with men, I like a man who's generous and I like a man who's ambitious and wants to treat his woman as well.
	It doesn't mean that I never do anything for him either.
	I definitely want to spoil my man just like he spoils me.
	But yeah, and I think that we're in an age where we can, like, we went to the moon before women were able to get credit cards in their own name.
	So, like, I think that it's a really powerful experience for women to have their own money.
	Do you want to have children?
	Yes.
	Would you be comfortable if, when you have children, that your man doesn't want you to work anymore and you just solely depend on him?
	Doesn't want me to work, like, is it for my own ease and comfort?
	Yes.
	I definitely let's say yes.
	Yeah, like, I think that one of the reasons why I do want a man, like, who's ambitious and like kind of who has some amount of wealth is because I do want to be a mom and I want to be able to not work if I'm impregnated and like birthing and like taking care of the children.
	Like, yeah, I think that that's something that I would like.
	Well, but I would think you would have that conversation before you got pregnant.
	Oh, yeah, definitely.
	I mean, that's something that's like an early conversation.
	Right, I would have in your discussion of dating the guy that this kind of thing would come up.
	I mean, I would think anyway.
	Oh, yeah.
	It comes up very early.
	For me, I mean, again, I'm 32, so I'm in like a, I'm finding my life partner vibe.
	So I definitely don't disagree with what you're saying.
	And I also don't disagree with what I'm saying, too.
	Yeah.
	I think it's both.
	Do you think that should apply to even like women in very traditional relationships that want to stay at home?
	Like, do you think they should have their own money also?
	I think that, no, people can do whatever they want.
	If that works for them and they feel like they're completely free and their man has their best interest in mind and what that best interest is for them to live a traditional life, then go ahead.
	You should do that.
	You know?
	I would like, you know, just like ask and like worry, I guess, if my friends were in a situation where they felt like controlled or something like that.
	But that's not about being traditional.
	That's about like just the situation, you know?
	So I think the language of like controlling isn't helpful.
	Like you have to, you know, that kind of stuff.
	But yeah, people can do whatever they want.
	Okay.
	It's good when a woman doesn't need a man.
	Yeah, I think if for me, I'm like, I always need to have my own money because if I'm ever in a situation that's like abusive or anything, like I'm leaving.
	For sure, I'm leaving.
	So yeah, it's always good to have that power.
	Back to my notes here.
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	Drop us a join the server, join the server boys over there on the Discord.
	We post behind the scenes stuff, got the wall of whatever, wall of haters, all kinds of stuff that's Discord only, so be sure to check that out.
	Getting into kind of some of the, hopefully the last notes here.
	Let's see.
	You had a disagreement.
	We already kind of talked about this, but I'll disagree with the topic of making women out to feel bad for wearing makeup.
	Yeah, we already talked about that.
	But we already, I don't know if you weighed in much on it, but.
	I did.
	I did talk about it extensively.
	Okay.
	She did.
	You also disagree with having women rate each other.
	Yeah, I don't.
	I don't really have the women rate each other.
	You've got them do that.
	Rate themselves.
	No, you've had them rate each other.
	That's typically Andrew who does that.
	I think the one thing has actually happened.
	She actually volunteered to do it.
	True.
	Well, put Maddie.
	I remember watching one particular one, and you were on with it, was um, and I don't know her name, but she was the girl who used to be in adult films, blonde, large-busted.
	And it was the one, and you were on with her on her for a good half an hour about trying to get her to rate other women, and she just wouldn't do it.
	The other women in the panel.
	How big were the breasts?
	Well, they were very large.
	No, they were very large, and she was sitting on the end.
	Like short blonde hair, I think I did.
	Blonde hair is short, yes.
	Like she had bazongas, yes.
	Was it the girl?
	Yes.
	Oh, I don't know exactly.
	I know what she's talking about.
	Was it me?
	Was it me on her case?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, it's probably on her case.
	Yeah, she does have big tits.
	Okay, that's yeah.
	I mean, that's what she said.
	Sorry.
	Yeah.
	And so I, yeah, I just don't like that because I think that that it puts women against each other.
	GMD Jim donated $69.
	Women can now have credit cards, and it only took them 50 years to rack up 1.14 trillion in debt.
	Great job, ladies.
	I like that one.
	That's a good one, Jim.
	Thank you.
	Show of hands.
	Who here's a feminist?
	Just you?
	Wait, but hold on.
	Now this really complicates the whole men should pay thing.
	So how do you reconcile being a feminist but wanting men to pay for first dates?
	Never mind.
	I'm not a feminist anymore.
	Just be a feminist.
	Can you scoot the mic this way a little bit?
	Yeah.
	And then tilt it down a little bit.
	It's a little too much.
	That didn't do anything.
	Okay.
	But how do you reconcile it?
	Seriously?
	I don't know how you define feminist.
	Like, I mean...
	Equality.
	Equality.
	Voice crack.
	I think maybe I'm not like.
	Right, there's like hard feminist, there's hard liberal, like there's like hard of all these versions.
	I'm like, I don't think I'm all the way over here, but like I wouldn't say I'm a feminist in the sense that I don't think that the patriarchy was working and we needed something to correct that, which was to let women make money, give women like equal opportunity in the workforce, like let them be able to like have mortgages on homes, like let them be in whatever kind of you know occupation that they personally want to do.
	So like I think that in that sense, I'm a feminist.
	I'm not a feminist in the sense that I think that men and women are the same and they should do all of the exact same things.
	I think that masculine and feminine energy exist in both people.
	And I personally, it's like the yin-yang thing.
	I think women, like just hormonally, like our hormones are much different than male hormones and like we're built for different things.
	Women are naturally a little bit typically more nurturing.
	Like we thrive in different kinds of work environments.
	So I don't think that that has to do with like what I would want on a first date because I think a first date is a first impression.
	And that man, I would like to be someone who's generous, who wants to take care of his woman.
	And I think that those two things can coexist in one person.
	You don't have to be all one thing and all one other thing.
	You can be a multitude of things in one person.
	Well, so you're talking about the feminist buffet where you pick and choose the equality which benefits you, you disregard that which doesn't.
	I mean, all these things are kind of intertwined.
	Can you put the water ball on the ground or pour it into a cup, pour favour?
	So that was very submissive of you, by the way.
	You didn't even like.
	You see how she just did it and she didn't even question it?
	That was very submissive, Pearl.
	Proud of you.
	So these things are all kind of intertwined.
	Like, do you think a world where, for example, you said women should be allowed to work, right?
	Well, I mean, if you double the labor pool, are men less capable of providing for women because of this action?
	Are men less capable of providing for women?
	So is it harder for men?
	To the same extent to which they did before?
	Yeah.
	But you're still desirous of the man to provide for you.
	I'm not sure on my first date, yeah.
	Yeah, but you still want a guy to provide for you throughout the relationship and even into the relationship.
	I think if I'm having this children, then I think the expectation is that like housing and food would be provided for me and my children for sure.
	So the bulk of the expenses.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	And I'm going to pick a man who is capable and able to do that.
	But it's interesting to me, on one hand, you want a man to provide for you in the same capacity that he would.
	No, not in the same capacity that I'd in the same capacity that he would provide for you if it was the 1950s.
	No, I don't.
	Yes, I don't expect that.
	You just said pay for the rent and pay for the food.
	When we're married, but like the entire expectation in the 1950s.
	Yeah, but in the 1950s, I'm still, like I was talking, you weren't even here.
	Like wealth creation, wealth creation for me is still very important.
	I'm always going to be making money and always going to have my own money and going to increase my net worth from now until the day I die.
	I for sure am going to be acting in those ways, which is very different.
	We're not talking about you.
	We're talking about the man.
	I'm saying that I will still contribute financially to the marriage partnership.
	It's just like during, but I do think that.
	So what are you going to pay for then?
	He pays rent and food.
	What do you pay for?
	Listen, I'm going to do all the details within my own relationship.
	I don't think I, and I also don't know because I'm not married and I don't have his babies right now, but I'm just saying I will make money and I don't expect for like my man to, I guess, take care of like every single thing and for me to not have any money at all.
	Okay, so your expectation of men is for them to operate as if they were in the 1950s.
	Men, I don't care what men do.
	I have my own preference for what I want my man to do.
	Men can do whatever they want.
	They can go 50-50.
	I totally get it.
	It's a rough world.
	It's hard to be like financially in a place where you can provide completely with no help for a woman.
	That's a very difficult thing.
	But is that what you want?
	That's a very difficult thing to do.
	Is that what you want?
	I think when I'm in a marriage relationship, I think, yeah, I personally want when I have children.
	Josh donated $69.
	So men pay for everything and you pay for yourself?
	You're a misandrist.
	Ch-A-E, chill out, you not so pretty little liar.
	We know what you're like behind the lies.
	We know you just want dollar.
	Yo, Josh, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Wait, so you said you do want a guy to be that provider.
	Is that correct?
	I think when I'm in a relationship and I give birth to his children, it's totally fair for him to provide us a place to stay and for food to eat.
	I will also be making my own money and contributing in ways that I can for the rest of my life because that's something that I want to do and something that I have the capabilities to do and that I feel like is valuable.
	Rex got $666 donated $69.
	Can we have everybody but Pearl do a fit check?
	I don't care to hear another thing from her tonight.
	I think that we got to do fit check.
	That's got to be like a champagne pop.
	Is that too much for a fit check?
	Pearl needs a little liquor.
	I think that's fair.
	We'll do it for champagne pop.
	Wait, so I'm confused.
	Listen, you can be confused.
	I don't need you to understand my perspective because we are not going to be in a couple.
	We're not going to be a couple.
	I've said what I think pretty much like four times in a row.
	So.
	All right, I'm done.
	No, you can move on.
	You broke my heart.
	I really thought we were making progress.
	Okay.
	You guys argue like a couple.
	I know, it's crazy, guys.
	Okay.
	So you want a guy to, you just said rent and food, but come on, you're going to want to provide more than that, right?
	If he would like to, that would be nice.
	So just to be clear, you're going to pay for health insurance, you're going to pay for utilities, you're going to pay for all the children.
	I never said any of that.
	So then do you want the man to pay for the utilities and the child care and the babysitter?
	Do you want him to pay and the health insurance?
	I think we'll work it out when we get there.
	I'm just, then the yes, is that a yes?
	No, no, it's not a yes.
	I don't know.
	I don't know how it's going to get split up.
	Exactly.
	Why can you make the determination when it comes to rent and food?
	Just because I think that those are pretty basic quality.
	But there's other expenses.
	There are other expenses, yeah.
	But I think like rent and food is like a good one to be like, I do kind of, I'm being honest and saying like I do kind of expect my man to provide at least that while I am literally raising his children.
	Do I expect him to provide rent and food for me now?
	No, because we're just not there yet.
	But if I'm literally giving birth to his children, yeah.
	Those are like my basic expectations.
	Everything else I think will have to work out.
	Like where is he in his career?
	Where am I in my career?
	Like what are our financial responsibilities?
	How are we going to split this all up?
	Like, but I'm not, I'm not like, oh, you provide 100% of everything and I stay home with the kids and do nothing.
	That's not what I like.
	But he provides 100% of everything and you continued to be a boss babe.
	No, I didn't.
	I said he doesn't have to.
	Are you going to stay home and take care of the kids or are you going to want like a babysitter?
	I don't know what I'm going to do.
	I'm sorry, you're 32.
	You should probably figure it out.
	I will figure that out, Brian.
	But like, you don't know?
	I don't know exactly how everything is going to be split up when I'm in my relationship.
	But what about what you want?
	Let's not talk about how it's going to be.
	Let's talk about what you want.
	When the kids are young, do you want to stay at home and take care of them, or do you want to be out working and have somebody paying for child care?
	I'll probably do a combination of both.
	Like, I'll probably have some help, but also like work as well.
	It's just kind of what I've imagined.
	I don't know exactly what I'm going to do, but what do you want, though?
	Do you want a combo?
	I do probably, I want a combo.
	Yeah.
	Because I think that's a full-time job to take care of children.
	That's a full-time job.
	And I don't ever see myself not working in some capacity.
	I'll probably take a break at like for a while.
	What, six months?
	I don't know, Brian.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	What about five years until they're in kindergarten?
	I don't know.
	I think it'll be whatever is works best for a family.
	How many kids do you want?
	I'm imagining like two.
	Okay, so like maybe six, seven years before both of them are in elementary school.
	I don't imagine it being that long.
	Well, isn't it start at five years old, kindergarten?
	I probably won't wait that long to work.
	Okay, so you'll need to pay for child care.
	I don't know how it's going to be split up, like I've said already.
	But, okay.
	Are you trying to make me say something on some specific things?
	I'm trying to understand your perspective.
	So, what you want is you don't want to stay at home with kids.
	Not 100% of the time.
	So, even before they get into kindergarten, you will want desert show donated $69.
	Please, for the love of God, someone tell Pearl to stop stroking her hair.
	It came already, and the tip is ultra-sensitive.
	Also, I hope she likes cats.
	Her future will only have cats, no men or kids.
	I literally do have a man, but it's fine.
	Oh, really quick, going back to the stiffler.
	The Stifler asks everyone to rate themselves on a scale of 1 to 10.
	Sorry.
	The scouter does not detect any tens, any tens at the table.
	And this isn't even me, this is the scouter.
	He really went into character.
	Josh donated $69.
	Okay.
	Fucking called it.
	All right, Pearl.
	Now that we've established you're a gold digger, I want to take this time to say, Jordan, you're beautiful.
	I'm so happy you didn't turn out like Pearl.
	Cry later, Pearl.
	Oh, man.
	Definitely won't be crying at all.
	Yeah, she has.
	Pearl has BLE, so she's good.
	She won't cry over this.
	No, I think Pearl's amazing.
	She's intelligent.
	You're beautiful.
	And thank you for the compliment.
	Getting through the notes here, Pearl, you said you're a positive influence.
	Parentheses are.
	You're a singer, you're a spiritual polyglot.
	What is that?
	It means someone who speaks multiple languages.
	No, I know what polyglot is.
	Yeah, spiritual.
	Oh, wait, it's spiritual.
	I thought it was a spiritual.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I know what the okay.
	I thought it was like spiritual.
	Okay.
	Biracial baddie.
	I think that's on your Instagram.
	It is, yeah.
	When you messaged us, you were like, I have some thoughts, lol.
	Oh, yeah.
	Did we talk about that already?
	Was there anything else in specific?
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	You said some men are emotionally attracted to other men, but sexually attracted to women and tall.
	I said last time.
	And tall men are overrated.
	Yeah, those are my hot takes last time.
	So you have data short king?
	Yeah.
	Okay, that's cool.
	I have data short kings.
	That's sweet.
	You said equality is not sameness, it's fairness.
	The sexy and fair thing to do is for the men to pick up the tab.
	Ladies do not settle for less.
	We teach people how to treat us.
	Yeah, I did say that.
	You did say that.
	Do you want to elaborate about her?
	I think it's pretty much self-explanatory.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	I mean, that's literally what my whole video was about that went viral.
	I think when people say they want equality, they really need to specify what they mean by that.
	Like, there's equality of opportunity and equality of outcome.
	You can't have both.
	It's true.
	It's true.
	We have pay here.
	We need to get through Pei's notes, then we'll try to.
	I think.
	Wait, Drea?
	We're Peyton.
	We're Payton.
	Wait, do you have a trailer?
	Oh, that was, wait.
	Isabel?
	Ashley?
	Oh, okay.
	Drea?
	No, Drea?
	No.
	Oh, yeah.
	No show.
	Pei, you're the last notes that we have.
	You're an anti-feminist but not traditional.
	Do you want to explain that?
	I'm anti-feminist, meaning I just don't believe in any of the today's age feminism or anything that it stands with.
	And also, I don't think really any woman can be completely traditional in today's age.
	Just with the internet and everything, it's just not possible to be completely traditional.
	Fair.
	You also said, do you not want to talk about the relationship history stuff?
	This is from your old, old notes.
	Oh, it was just that one relationship that I said that I was in.
	It was just like horrible.
	You said there are a few things I disagree with the host on?
	Okay, me.
	Well, I've gotten to hear you out more, and I don't know if there's many things that I disagree with.
	There's one thing you said you think it's just as hard for women to date as it is for men when it pertains to average men and women.
	His opinion on the difficulties of average men and women when it comes to dating or standards, men and women of average salaries, looks, height, age, weight, occupation, etc.
	I don't know if we did we get a chance to talk about that last time or no?
	No.
	Okay, let's talk about it then.
	Okay.
	So going around the table, I want to open up to the whole panel.
	I know you guys were, we're in the, we're in the what's that saying?
	We're home stretched.
	You said that.
	She just.
	Good.
	Thank you.
	That's perfect.
	We're in the home stretch here, guys.
	Home stretch.
	Do some jumping jacks or something.
	Wake yourselves up because we're about to get into some last-minute nitty-gritty.
	Do you guys think who has it easier when it comes to dating?
	Men, women, or equal?
	I think initially it's easier for women.
	Women.
	I think in the long shot, it's more equal.
	That's my answer.
	Pearl, what do you think?
	Equal?
	Actually, I've changed my mind about this.
	I used to think it was harder for women, but I actually think it's equal.
	It's equally hard.
	I'm assuming your position is equal or harder.
	Is it harder for women or equal?
	Personally, I think it's harder for women, but generally, I think equal.
	Okay.
	I think it's easier for women.
	Okay.
	Agreed?
	I think it's easier for women.
	W Liz, B-L-E-Liz?
	She got her title back.
	Yeah.
	Sarah.
	Sarah, what do you think?
	I would have to agree with Jordan.
	I think initially it's easier for women, but like equal later on in life.
	Yeah.
	Easier for women.
	Like, I get what you mean by it's obviously hard for average women, but I think if we're comparing the average woman to the average man, the men still, the man still might have it a little bit harder at least.
	Hey, Dog, what you got?
	I think it's easier for women.
	Okay.
	So why do you, wait, yours is, it's equal or is it harder for women?
	Generally, it's equal.
	But I think, did you say it can be harder for women?
	Personally.
	Oh, anecdotally for you?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Why is it harder for you, do you think?
	I don't really know why.
	I think I try.
	Like, so in what ways are you struggling?
	How is it hard?
	What have you found hard?
	I've found it difficult because you either get rejected or you find someone that isn't good for you.
	And then it doesn't work out.
	Sure.
	Where do you usually look for dates?
	Like, do you do online dating?
	I did, but that was just, I was telling, actually, I was saying earlier about one experience that I had on Tinder is where I was talking to a guy, and it seemed like it was going well.
	And we were going to go on our first date.
	We were supposed to go out to dinner.
	And I went in the car with him and he drove deep into the woods at night and said that he wanted to take pictures of me in the woods.
	I think I remember this, actually.
	Watch!
	Yeah.
	And I was like, I was like, okay, this date is over and we're never speaking again.
	And also, I had him, I was like, okay, this is getting weird.
	You need to drive me home.
	So he drove me back to my house and I forgot my women's leather jacket in his car.
	And I tried to message him to say that I forgot it in his car just to get my jacket back and I had already been blocked.
	Oh my God.
	Do you think it's easier for you to meet people online or organically?
	I don't think either is easy.
	I think it's both difficult.
	Which is harder, maybe?
	Online?
	You personally?
	I think online, because you don't know the person, anything, they can be anything like they can be totally different than their profile says or how they look or anything.
	And so I feel like in person, when you meet someone and you ask them out, you can kind of get a sense of who they are by seeing them in person.
	But I feel like people don't know how to have organic conversations nowadays because we have the internet.
	So I think it goes actually in the other direction.
	I think it's easier online because you bypass all of the initials.
	Like you can pretty much figure out everything you want to know about them.
	I mean, if they're telling you the truth, before actually seeing them.
	So you're not actually doing much of the scouting.
	That's why I think it is difficult though, because a lot of people will use their online persona to make you think that they're a certain way and then they're actually completely different and they just use the internet to kind of mask who they really are.
	Are you currently dating?
	I'm trying to, but it just hasn't worked out.
	Why do you think being on this podcast has helped?
	Yeah, I think a couple of people are going to be.
	I really know why it hasn't worked out.
	That's the thing too, is I don't think I'm a very picky person.
	I don't think I'm looking for too much.
	I have a very realistic idea of what I would like.
	And I don't know.
	I just hasn't worked out for me.
	I think it's because you need to be more obsessed with yourself.
	I could never, though.
	I'm like, erroneous.
	Erroneous.
	The Reich's coming.
	The right guy's coming.
	You're so special.
	He's totally coming.
	You are amazing.
	He's so cute.
	I just feel like if you saw yourself like that, like, I don't know.
	I guess I can only speak for myself.
	Like, that kind of energy where you're like, wow, like, I'm really cool.
	Like, I would add a lot to somebody's life.
	Like, that energy, I feel like, like, you don't have to pursue a man.
	Like, when you really, like, think of yourself highly, like, you really do magnetize the right men into your life, and you won't really even attract men who want to take you into the west and take pictures of you, which is freaking crazy.
	And honestly, like, I know that people on this podcast are going to disagree, but if you rate yourself, if you really see yourself as a five, like, you're going to attract people in your life who see you as a five.
	Like, I feel like if you really focus on being that bitch, which you are, you're so special.
	You're so beautiful.
	You're so fun.
	And, like, you're really, you really have a unique personality that I think someone's really, really going to love and who's looking for someone exactly like you.
	Like, you don't have to ask men out on dates.
	Like, you can just focus on yourself, be who you are, love who you are, and like the right men are going to come and find you.
	I don't want to be offensive at all.
	And that's very sweet, but I just feel like that's unrealistic.
	Like, I have a good sense of self in a way that I know who I am, but I don't think of myself higher than I should be.
	And like how you guys were saying earlier, oh, when you think of yourself in, you know, a five or whatever, you won't try harder.
	Like, but I work out, I take care of myself and everything, but I just feel like I'm just more realistic about if I had, like, you know, all the guys that I've asked out say what they rated me.
	That's what I go off of, not of like what I think of myself.
	I'm like, I'm okay.
	I'm a, you know, I'm, I'm me.
	You are able to take an objective stance without getting into fairy tale land.
	Yeah.
	Like, let's be real.
	You come off to me, and I think a lot of the other women would agree, you come off pretty confident.
	Yeah.
	So I don't think you lack very confident whatsoever.
	Extremely humble.
	Thanks.
	Yeah.
	And that's a very beautiful quality, sorry.
	It's beautiful.
	So I wouldn't pick up this, like, no offense, but like, I wouldn't pick up this unauthentic pride because I personally think that pride is one of the most unattractive qualities.
	And that's just because I want to attract somebody who's extremely humble and doesn't have to explain to people how special they are.
	And I think that that quality in you can speak volumes to so many.
	It already has.
	Like, literally, you're getting so hyped on like every man on here for just being you.
	Wait, for literally just being you.
	Wait, you like humble?
	I do.
	And you're against pride?
	Yeah.
	Do you know what I'm about to walk you in to?
	No, no.
	Okay, you said you were a 10.
	Okay, isn't that pride?
	But like, you are misconstruing everything I said.
	I literally walked out.
	I had to go potty, and then you guys asked me to come back.
	So I was like, everybody here is a 10 because I had to pee so bad.
	And then you literally took it so literally.
	So you don't view yourself as a 10.
	People who truly know me, and I don't want to take away from this, I want to actually, because she, like, she deserves to have her word.
	But people who know me personally know that I hold myself to a very high standard, which is I which is why I think very literally a gentleman donated $69.
	For the whole panel, how often do you receive honest opinions from men about anything that are neither related to you nor want to have a romantic/slash carnal relationship with you?
	Do you listen to them?
	Anybody, takers, any takers?
	Quick answer on this?
	Yeah, I get to listen to honest opinions of men, and I do take them seriously, and they have nothing to do with me at all.
	Yeah.
	Hold on.
	But I got to go back to this pride thing.
	So wait, you're not a 10?
	Like, are you shaking your head like you don't want to talk about it?
	No, no, like, I know I'm not.
	I will net, like, save me so much time.
	Okay.
	Well, it actually wasted so much time because you kept bringing it up, and I was like, I'm just not even going to say anything.
	See, this is communication here.
	I wouldn't have said anything had you not just said you were a 10.
	Are you just walking it back now?
	Because I swear, I'm not.
	I promise you, I'm not.
	Like, I am one of the most, like, I'm not going to say, I, like, I'm not, I'm self-critical, like, very self-analytical.
	So, like, because I hold myself to a high standard, like, I do really.
	But even when you came back to the table, when I like double-checked, I'm pretty sure you still said you were 10.
	A still crow and donated $69.
	Pearl, having four older sisters, I at times cringe at many of the comments viewers sent in.
	Brian tries to point out that women need to be more realistic, but sadly, it brings out the worst in men.
	Wow, what a nice comment.
	Thank you.
	That's actually very true.
	Thank you, the story.
	There's a lot of weird people on the internet.
	No, it's true.
	It does bring out the worst in men.
	Which is why I think it's sad because this, yeah.
	I mean, we definitely don't want to slap the word confident over something that's clearly prideful.
	And I think nowadays people do that.
	You know, you could value yourself without being like overly obsessed and think you're like, isn't it just like vanity and narcissism?
	I feel like vanity and narcissism is a covert way of saying insecure.
	I think vanity is overcompensating for insecurity.
	Well, I think vanity is a way of saying vanity, and narcissism is a way of saying narcissism.
	You have a tattoo that says vanity, huh?
	Or vain.
	Yeah, vanity.
	Am I maybe?
	Did she not say 10?
	Am I 10 years?
	I remember her saying hers all of 10, but I don't remember what she said after that.
	It came from a self-love.
	It came from, it did not come from her thinking that she's hot shit.
	That is not where it came from at all.
	Yeah, no.
	Because the way that she has portrayed herself through this entire panel, this whole time, none of it has been of her thinking that she's the hottest thing here.
	Not at all.
	So.
	Well, you can still be nice in Delulu.
	Well, she hasn't come across like that.
	I don't think she's nice and not Delulu.
	Well, no, she's humble.
	She's come off pretty realistic, I'm not going to lie.
	Yeah.
	Is there something personal you don't like?
	No, you said 10, and I could have sworn there was some back and forth where it wasn't like.
	No.
	Look, I just, you said 10.
	No, I also, but I also did mention I just did not want to, like, I was not comfortable with basing it off of looks.
	Like, I just wasn't.
	So I was like, I'm just, you know.
	Oh, yeah, I remember.
	She gave a very long answer, but I don't think she gave a number.
	Yeah.
	And then you, like, asked me to give a number.
	And so I was like, okay, everybody here is a 10.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So I still don't have to do that.
	So including you.
	Still kind of.
	So including you.
	Nick, pull up really quick, going back to her thing on dating easier for men or women.
	Let's do the calculator.
	Have you done it before?
	No.
	Okay, we'll do the calculator.
	And can I say one other comment?
	And we'll do for Pearl too.
	One other comment is after I was on the podcast the last time, I got a London comment saying that I look like the girl version of you.
	I just wanted to let you know that.
	I kind of see it.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	She is red.
	I'm a bit red.
	I feel like you look like Ricky Gervais.
	I see it a little bit.
	Oh, I see it too.
	This girl just said I look like your sister.
	Wait, what?
	You look like what?
	Ricky Gervais.
	I get a photo of that.
	That's pretty insulting.
	Okay.
	Really?
	You look like Lizzo.
	Oh, thank you.
	Lizzo's a 10, though, so I don't prefer her.
	Plot twists.
	Plot twists are actually.
	Let's do the calculator.
	Go ahead.
	Age?
	Between 20 and 45.
	Exclude married?
	It's a pretty big rate.
	That's a big.
	That are already married, yes.
	So you're 27, right?
	Yeah.
	You'll date a 20-year-old.
	Yeah, I don't care.
	If it works out, it works out.
	It's a very.
	All right.
	Race?
	White.
	Okay.
	Minimum height.
	How tall are you?
	I'm five feet, so five feet.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	I love it.
	You're a fucking liar.
	Exclude a liar.
	All right.
	Exclude obese.
	No.
	Really?
	Really?
	Wait, what is obese?
	Minimum income.
	My doctor told me I was obese, so unhealthy and overweight.
	Yeah.
	You don't go off BMI.
	No, not BMI girlfriend.
	Minimum income.
	30,000?
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'm just being real.
	I feel like she's telling the truth.
	Okay.
	Probability.
	Scroll down.
	That is 17% of all men, 32% of all white men in that age range.
	I thought it would have been a bit higher.
	I thought it would have been two.
	Half tonight to me, it would be like 2% then.
	What's the delusion?
	Wait, what?
	32% of all white men.
	Five feet.
	That's crazy.
	I literally did.
	Did we put it?
	Wait, Nick, go back really quick.
	Go back.
	Yeah, I don't trust this anymore.
	Unclick exclude married.
	I just want to see how the stat changes.
	Like, has been married or is currently married?
	Currently married.
	Oh.
	Well, that changes it quite a bit.
	I guess that makes sense because if you exclude married, like, what percentage of men are married?
	I guess a lot of people are.
	That's already going to knock out.
	Because it jumped just from that from like 30% of white men to 72.
	Yeah.
	But I wouldn't go after a married man.
	I feel like they shouldn't even factor in married men into this.
	This makes it unreliable.
	Also, previously married?
	No, just like currently married.
	I don't think like what women are going to be like, yeah, I want to date a married.
	They should just not include that in the data.
	Let's do it with Pearl.
	Let's do Pearls.
	Mine's going to literally be like, no, I don't want to do this.
	You got this.
	I also already found my dream man.
	Mine's going to be like, not impossible.
	Let's do it.
	Just for funs.
	Just for funsies.
	Okay, funsies.
	Okay, do 28 to 51.
	Nah, 47.
	Yeah, let's do 47.
	All right.
	Pearl with the older gentleman.
	I mean, listen, any colors.
	Let's do 5'8.
	How tall are you?
	5'6.
	Exclude obese?
	No, let's keep it in there.
	She likes them, chunky boy.
	Let's do 80K.
	All right, this isn't terrible.
	Okay.
	Oh.
	5.8% of men fall into this category.
	Very rare for sure.
	But I mean, my man is definitely makes a lot of sense.
	I'm not surprising considering you chose like any race.
	Yeah, true.
	It wasn't like it was just the NFAs.
	How reliable?
	I don't think that's a good idea.
	Is this calculator not reliable at all?
	Like, I want to, if I'm going to try to make a point, I want it to be reliable and accurate.
	And I just, I don't know.
	Anyways, I thought that would be interesting.
	So, I mean, the whole thing about dating easier for men.
	That was one of the disagreements you've had.
	Or dating is about as difficult for each person.
	But I mean, if you look at the early stages of dating, I think I don't think you can even come to a conclusion that doesn't arrive at dating is way harder for men insofar as men are the pursuers, men are the initiators, generally speaking.
	And so on this basis alone, dating is harder for men.
	And I was speaking more specifically on the current, the like actual conversations that you've had with women on the podcast about it that usually are like very wealthy, very, you know, high, like very high beauty standard and things like that.
	Sure.
	So.
	I figured it would be a lot easier for them and the women that you talk to and how they didn't understand that it is really difficult for men in that in those specific cases.
	What do you mean, what specific cases?
	Like when you are having conversations with these women who, you know, do OnlyFans or porn, and they have very likely.
	Well, the majority of women we have on the show don't do OnlyFans.
	In fact, that's why I'm making a specialist.
	I don't think specific case.
	No girl here does OF?
	Ever done OF?
	Pearl?
	Ever done OF?
	Why did you single her out?
	I'm just asking.
	Because I'm the feminist.
	I could single you.
	I just single you out, Jordan, sometimes.
	I guess I don't know.
	Yeah, I mean, so I don't know.
	Yeah, we do have OF girls on the show, but dating is harder for them.
	I mean, dating is harder for them than I think the average woman.
	True.
	Yeah.
	I mean, they have simps, but like, actually dating, I think it's harder for them.
	True.
	And this was a while ago.
	This was before my first appearance.
	I've learned a lot more about how you think than before.
	I think women have dating on easy mode as compared to men.
	So by comparison, like as a woman, you can hop onto a dating app.
	And are you speaking specifically hooking up or just or actually dating?
	Even like, well, if going on dates is the initial phases of dating, and if it's easier for women to get a date, even if the guy's intentions are perhaps to hook up, that's usually where most modern dating kind of begins.
	So you do kind of have it easier.
	Generally.
	I would say.
	More specific cases, like my personal case.
	I think that's a different story.
	So, I mean, but like, how big is the city you live in?
	It's very small.
	It's a town, not a small.
	Where do you live?
	Massachusetts.
	What's the pop?
	It's small.
	Jay Morphin donated $200.
	Yo, thank you for the 200, man.
	Really appreciate your patronage.
	Here, let me play this for you.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	Jay Morphin, Morphin Power Rangers.
	Thank you, bro.
	Appreciate it.
	I think this probably.
	How's the Power Rangers theme song go?
	Power Rangers.
	Power Rangers.
	Go ahead, Pearl, sing it.
	You're the singer here.
	That's okay.
	She's tired.
	I'm tired.
	She's camily.
	Morphin.
	It's time.
	Super Zan Morphin Ranger Rangers.
	I wanted to be a Power Ranger when I was young.
	Wait, how big's your town?
	How big's your town?
	I think it gets very small.
	Very small.
	Yeah, I see.
	Sweet.
	Okay.
	Well, we're going to, we can talk a little bit more as we do this.
	We're going to do a brief roast session.
	Then we're going to wrap the show here.
	So, guys, TTS is now set to $29.99.
	It's ready to go, but I need to make a couple changes.
	Any final thoughts from any of the panelists?
	Woo!
	Woo!
	Good talk.
	It was a good show.
	I thought it was a fun show, you know.
	Jordan's the homie.
	Yeah.
	Pei's the homie.
	You'll be back on Tuesday.
	I think Pearl's the homie.
	We'll have Pearl back if you want.
	I'm the homie.
	Where the hell is the homie?
	Pearl's the homie.
	The feminist homie.
	Stacy's the homie.
	Stacy's mom.
	Scott.
	Keep going.
	Liz.
	You ever heard Liz or Liz?
	K donated $30.
	Ava needs to shut the F up.
	Oh.
	Do you want to respond to that?
	It's a joke because she's quiet.
	Ava, do you ever respond?
	Except about the labia.
	I like hardly spoke.
	The labia triggered her.
	Okay, no.
	The wizard sleeve triggered me.
	I'm sorry.
	I just find that funny.
	Trigger.
	It's funny.
	Okay.
	Take home.
	Sarah's the homie.
	Maddie's the homie.
	Ava's the homie.
	Morgan eating chips is also the homie.
	What kind of chips are you eating, Morgan?
	Jalapeno.
	Jalapeno.
	Jalapeno chips.
	That's what's up.
	Hold on, guys.
	I'm getting a couple things figured out here.
	Before, Nick, can you pull up to the Twitch?
	Ryan.
	Why you no date Ava?
	She seems first class and voluptuous.
	Ava's not single.
	I am not single.
	But thank you.
	I only date men.
	Just kidding.
	True.
	Nick, could you pull up Twitch?
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Morphin donated $100.
	Oh, you're a Power Ranger.
	I'm a woman.
	Ha ha.
	Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, Jay Morphin.
	Wait, what was that meme?
	Like, Morphin?
	It's Morphin Time.
	from, what was that from?
	Power Ranger.
	It's Morphin Time.
	No, Ninja Turtles, right?
	No, no, no.
	It was like some other thing recently.
	Oh, I don't know.
	Who's that guy from Fike?
	Who's the 30 Seconds to Mars?
	What's his name?
	Now I don't know where you're going.
	Nobody, the Rosetta Stone donated.
	Just a second, if you can.
	$35 trillion in national debit, more than $1 per known galaxy.
	Wait, guys.
	Self processors are five personality ads points.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow.
	Drops a prime sub.
	Twitch.tv slash whatever.
	And then Discord, Discord.gg/slash whatever.
	Drops a follow.
	Join the Discord.
	Excuse me.
	Discord.gg slash whatever.
	We post BTS stuff on there.
	And thank you, guys.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you for the comment.
	What's that?
	Is that the literally shape?
	That's the literally shape.
	Josh donated $30.
	Yeah, thank you, Josh.
	About time roasts.
	Pearl, we got some things to talk about.
	Before you rage, quit, and have that nice, quiet ride home.
	Wondering why you ever even said yes to tonight.
	To start, I'm happy you got exposed.
	What?
	Did Pearl get exposed?
	I don't think so.
	Maybe just my opinion or something?
	Just like who I am.
	I don't think you got exposed or anything.
	I've been exposed.
	Exposed.
	Guys, TTS is 30.
	Get them in.
	Roast.
	Last call.
	Get your roast in.
	We'll do a short roast session.
	Get them in.
	Get them in.
	If you want.
	I'm still getting that all figured out here.
	Hold on.
	Let me see if I can link it up.
	Maddie, what you got for us, M-Dog?
	What's the question you really want to ask the panel, Maddie?
	What's your body count?
	I have no idea.
	You want to ask it?
	Go ahead, Maddie.
	I just did.
	I don't think they heard you.
	It's everyone's body count.
	Why you got to whisper it, Maddie?
	Chest.
	Jared Leto.
	Morphin donated $69.
	It's Jared Leto Bottle Bop.
	Wait, do you know how to sing their song?
	The 30 seconds to Mars.
	30 seconds, 30.
	Is it seconds plural or 30 seconds?
	Seconds.
	30 seconds to Mars.
	What's their song?
	The 30.
	What's that song from 30 Seconds to Mars?
	The Kill.
	Do you know how to sing the kill?
	Here, I'll give you the lyrics.
	You ready?
	No.
	Bro, come on.
	Don't be a party pooper.
	I think that was like my main purpose on this whole show, actually.
	They got one freebie singing at the beginning.
	I am finished with you.
	I actually just don't know it for real.
	Choose better ladies.
	Well put.
	Well put, Ron Briggs.
	That was beautiful.
	Madison, ask the question, Maddie.
	But dear body can be.
	Booga booga.
	Mystery 980 thing for the New Zealand 30.
	Appreciate it.
	Appreciate it, Mike.
	Wait, can I do it?
	Can anybody do a Kiwi accent?
	Appreciate it.
	Okay.
	Nar that's Australian.
	Oh, nice.
	Although they're kind of so think you, think, think you, think you, mint?
	Thank you.
	What's in Kiwi?
	New Zealand.
	New Zealand.
	Think you?
	Think you mystery 980?
	Oh my god, what the fuck did that turn into?
	Think you?
	Oh, it's funny.
	Appreciate it, bro.
	$30 TTS.
	Last call.
	Get them in, boys.
	Get them in.
	If you came out of nowhere.
	Fucking fly, bro.
	Maddie asked body count going around the table.
	Does body count matter?
	No comment.
	Not answering.
	Matters.
	Matters.
	What does that mean?
	How many sexual partners?
	Three.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh.
	No comment.
	Yeah, I'm not answering, and it doesn't matter.
	But if it doesn't matter, wouldn't you answer?
	If it didn't matter?
	No, it doesn't matter what the other person says.
	Oh, okay.
	Word.
	Jordan, body count?
	Pearl body count?
	What?
	I said, body count?
	Seven.
	Seven.
	Oh, yeah, still no comment.
	Vector donated $30.
	There you have it, folks.
	Brian McDumpy, you bring on the most interesting women, like this Jim Pearl.
	It exemplifies what happens when Christianity meets secularism.
	Andrew would have made her go home early on.
	Brian McDumpy.
	People say I have a dumpy on you.
	I've been waiting to do one with Andrew on.
	You haven't been on with Andrew?
	No.
	You've never been on.
	No.
	She's always on with Q. That's funny.
	Haven't you been on like four times?
	Is this four?
	This makes four.
	This is four.
	TSO.
	And all four times.
	No, Andrew.
	We'll get you on with Andrew.
	How about that?
	But I did three with Q-Pill.
	Q?
	You've been on three with Q?
	All three.
	How am I fucking with you?
	I was wondering if he was going to be here today because I was like, this is too much.
	That would be funny.
	I have a little coinky dink.
	We'll get you on with Andrew one of these days.
	Okay.
	I'm surprised it hasn't happened just randomly.
	I love watching him.
	Not even virtually?
	No, she hasn't been on.
	No.
	You know, the ones I watch of him, he's virtually album.
	Pearl, you want to come back and be on with Andrew?
	I don't know who that is, but it sounds scary.
	She's interesting.
	Guys, last call on the TTS.
	If you want to do a little roast session, last call on the TTS here.
	Who am I going to raid on Twitch?
	Who are we going to raid on Twitch?
	Let's see what the knock?
	That's weird.
	Final thoughts from anybody?
	Bone once.
	Bone twice.
	Jordan, what you got for us, Jordan?
	Pearl, what you got for us?
	I have to pee.
	Ew.
	Oh, that's my thought.
	She's got a tinkle.
	We've been here for like eight hours, y'all.
	This is true.
	This is a short stream, though.
	It's a full short shift.
	This is one of our short ones.
	We did a shift.
	He did a full shift.
	Let's do a shift together.
	Joshua donated $30.
	Pearl, honestly, did you learn anything tonight, or will you still be on your current path to loneliness?
	I'm not lonely at all.
	But Chet and I are pretty sure you learn nothing and will be unhappy for most of your life.
	I'm very happy in my life.
	Yo, Brian's Dumpy.
	Thank you for the gifted.
	Oh, that's Natalia.
	Hey, Natalia.
	Thank you for the 20 gifted memberships.
	Appreciate it.
	But you changed your name to Brian's Dumpy.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Appreciate it.
	Natalia, Natalia, the OG.
	Appreciate it.
	Let's see here.
	What do we have?
	What do we have?
	Is there anything else?
	Oh, we didn't do the bear.
	We'll do the bear really quick.
	Would you rather be in a forest alone?
	Sorry, hold on.
	Would you rather be spawned in a forest with a random man or a random bear that you will cross paths with?
	That's a tough one.
	Can I go last?
	Actually, you gotta go first.
	Okay, yeah.
	Bear.
	Man.
	Man.
	Bear.
	Bear.
	Man.
	Wait, bear, bear.
	Why?
	Why bear?
	Let's have this go.
	I'm literally just going based off of that video because I don't know.
	I'm getting nervous to say man.
	I feel like I have like a fighting chance with a bear for some reason.
	I know I don't.
	I know I don't.
	I know.
	I know I don't.
	It's literally that TikTok.
	Like, it was.
	It used to be man, and then I saw that TikTok and I like screwed my head.
	So like, guys gotta be speaking.
	Well, you guys gotta like help me unbrainwash me from that video.
	What the hell?
	Oh, instantly man.
	Suddenly.
	Okay.
	Scuba Beast donated $29.99.
	Kiwi, you're a legend.
	I did not mean to clip that.
	Wait, what?
	Kiwi, you're a legend.
	Scuba Beast.
	You're a legend?
	Oh, my.
	What the fuck was that?
	So, anyways, back to the salabia thing.
	Oh, my gosh.
	What?
	Lord.
	How did we get here?
	No.
	Which one of my life decisions did this to me?
	It was a joke.
	Joke on y'all.
	Y'all crazy.
	I'll wrap the show once the two urinating people are back from the bathroom or whatever.
	Once they're back, we have.
	Urinating people.
	Yeah.
	All right, guys.
	Last call.
	If you guys want to get a little roast session, last call.
	Boom, Let's see.
	What other questions do I have?
	Josh donated $30.
	So that's the nothing then Pearl.
	Hey, you should plug your music, you vapid 304.
	What are you going to do to make money when that back fires?
	Wait, Pearl, come back so you can respond.
	What did he say?
	Here, I'll play it again.
	Josh donated $30.
	So that's the nothing then Pearl.
	Hey, you should plug your music, you vapid 304.
	Wow.
	What are you going to do to make money when that back fires?
	What does Uvapid 304 mean?
	That's an area code.
	It's an insult.
	304 means like a H-O-E.
	It's in Virginia.
	Oh, okay.
	Thank you for the.
	Yeah.
	Follow me on Spotify, ProBots. Yeet.
	That's crazy.
	Okay.
	No other final thoughts.
	All right.
	We'll wrap.
	We'll wrap there if you guys want.
	Okay.
	Who am I going to rate on Twitch?
	Let me get that figured out really quickly.
	Ron Nunders Corbriggs donated $30.
	The women that won't answer body count know Thea's is too high to get a good man if they revealed it.
	Only those with low body count aren't afraid to say.
	Most modern women are strumpets.
	Hashtag less than 10.
	Definitely not true.
	We're only saying that to get in a reaction and also married.
	So not looking for a man.
	Cool.
	Oh, we got another one.
	Loose pussy energy donated $30.
	The difference between most men and women is guys will call out other guys if they are growing dumpy, but women will lie and gas each other up.
	You go, girl, you're a ten.
	Get the fuck out of here.
	Elle.
	Also, I wonder, like, if a guy called me fat, I wouldn't be offended.
	But I feel like if you call a girl fat, she'd be really upset by that.
	You'd be like, okay.
	I'd be like, you're right.
	I'm a piece of shit.
	I need a voice late.
	I mean, I feel like if you have, like, if you have a really good friend, you're honest with each other.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like, they just approach it differently.
	But you're not going to blast them or you're not going to make them feel bad.
	Again, delivery is important.
	I also think you should be able to look at yourself and be like, okay, do I need to lose weight?
	Like, I should, like, everyone should be working out, but especially if you're gaining a lot of weight, like, you should be looking at yourself and realizing that you need to start working out and eating better.
	How do you tell a girlfriend that she's fat?
	She knows.
	She already knows.
	Yeah, she would know.
	But she knows.
	How do you like comfort tingly?
	It's more of an encouragement and like.
	Hey, you've been eating a lot of fried foods.
	You really have been just being really lazy.
	You need to start working on yourself or I'm not going to be with you anymore.
	Or is it more just like, you should come to the gym?
	Oh, if you want encouragement for sure.
	It's more like anxiety.
	I think she meant relationships.
	Oh, like take them to eat.
	Yeah, did you mean friend or relationship?
	Friend.
	Oh, that's my bad.
	It's harder for.
	She's like, I would do that one too.
	If it's your friend, I would just, if my friend was getting really big, I would just straight up tell her.
	Like, I'm not good at being like, oh, the.
	I would be like, you're getting fat.
	And I would want her to tell me the same way.
	Like, girl, you're a vegetable.
	Well, another way to do this is trying to get them to go on a hike with you.
	And then when they kick you, I would say, hey, you want to go on a hike?
	Grid one motor sports.
	With aromas from sheet metal and motor oil, you're a man every time you wash.
	I like it.
	Try it today.
	Last two questions.
	Do you want to date an average man?
	No.
	No.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Wait, can you average personality, average looks, average job?
	Okay.
	Average height.
	Average PP size.
	If you're average, then you have to do two of those.
	Which ones?
	Like average height, average PP.
	Oh.
	Like all that.
	Like, that's fine.
	His personality is above average.
	Yeah.
	W's on Ava Edition.
	Muscle mummies are a huge dump.
	Ava, would you say your man is jacked, tan and juicy?
	Are we going to get a tries?
	Can we see tries?
	I'm still working on my truck.
	Let's see.
	Okay.
	I do have like, I do have biceps.
	I don't think I have to do that.
	Damn, Ava.
	I'm kind of a jack.
	You are jacked.
	I don't have a mouse.
	Low-key, I'd be curling 30s, 30s.
	Can you do a most muscular?
	I haven't mastered that pose.
	Do you want to show the quad strength training with her?
	You want to do the quads?
	Do you compete?
	I'm too short.
	No, you just got to stand up.
	Do you want to do the, what's it called?
	You won't be able to see if she's wearing black.
	That is true.
	Yeah.
	I can show my quads another time when they're out.
	Wear some bright pants the next time.
	I actually like only wear different clothes.
	He asked me if my man was what?
	Jacked.
	Jacked?
	Tan and juicy.
	She said he was ripped earlier.
	He saw like an APAC.
	Yeah, he's he's what the heck there you go.
	Right.
	We go way back, but I just got lucky.
	Like, just got lucky.
	Ron Lunders Corporates donated $30.
	I once told the girl she should shave her upper lip before it became more noticeable.
	I thought I was looking out, but she got upset.
	Ladies, how would you take this?
	How would you say nicer?
	That's the difficult thing that we were saying earlier: women want you, they say they want you to tell them the truth, and then when you do, they get offended by it if it's not what they want to hear.
	It's true.
	My husband told me.
	No, that's the thing is, if you know that you can trust the guy that you're with.
	Okay, fine.
	Wait, here's a really difficult one.
	Here's a really difficult one.
	Spider-Man.
	Spider-Man.
	How do you tell a girl that she smells down there?
	Oh, my gosh.
	Like, how do you know?
	Yeah.
	You should tell her.
	No, but sometimes they don't.
	Sometimes they don't know.
	And you've been with women like that because they should.
	I think all of us at this table would agree you should.
	Not unless she has COVID and she doesn't have to.
	That's what I did last night.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Forever.
	So I think all of us women at the table agree that you should know personally if you smell down there.
	Right.
	It's easy to know.
	And if you don't, she's just not hygienic.
	Sometimes they don't know.
	Yeah, no, if she doesn't know, she's not hygienic.
	Maybe she's correct.
	And if that's the case, then there's don't go on a second date or don't write.
	What if she's a nice girl, but she doesn't know?
	There could be something wrong.
	But you're going to have to have that conversation.
	You're going to have to have the conversation with her at some point.
	Have you ever had to tell a woman that?
	Yes.
	We need to hear how you told her.
	You need to tell us.
	I have the text message.
	Hold on.
	Yes.
	Please tell us.
	Wait, what?
	On text?
	Hold on, let me try to find this.
	Why would it be?
	Hey, he just sends a fishing message.
	Oh, my God.
	It was actually, I had to Google how to do it.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Chat GBT.
	How do I tell my girlfriend?
	Oh, I think I used the word.
	I'm trying to search.
	Why do you have the text safe?
	I used the word scent.
	If I was.
	You just tell her.
	Okay, here we go.
	Okay, hold on.
	I'm going to read the text.
	Yes.
	I'm going to read the text that I told this girl.
	I sent her a text that she smelled down there.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay, you guys are going to like this, though.
	I think I was very good about it.
	Okay, I was very nice.
	But why through text?
	Okay, I said terrible.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	This is going to be sort of embarrassing for me, but I'm just going to do it.
	I said, I know this is kind of an embarrassing topic, and I'm sorry for that.
	But last time we hung out, I noticed a different scent down there than the last time, and I wanted to make sure you were aware of it.
	Just maybe something to bring up with your gyno potentially.
	I hope this is not embarrassing, but just thought you should know so you can address any potential issues.
	Maybe it's nothing, but figured I should say something.
	You really did your big one.
	You just said it.
	You justified it.
	No, that was so good.
	That was like a really good way to say it, honestly.
	However, not through text.
	You should have just texted me.
	I thought it would be more in the middle.
	Also, I was kind of smiling.
	Because it's indirect.
	I was smiling when I was saying it, but I mean, I was being.
	No, but not even that, too.
	If he's not like with her, was that good?
	I thought that was like, it's like a casual thing.
	That was very respectful.
	That was good.
	Communication.
	That was good.
	That was not going to be good.
	Did she respond?
	Yeah, did she all matter to me?
	Well, here's the problem, right?
	So let me look at them.
	Oh, no.
	You guys broke up.
	Blocked.
	Blocked is crazy.
	So this was kind of like a sort of long day.
	Like, she lived in LA.
	Lived here, and then she was like, Oh, it's okay.
	It's kind of a long drive, anyways.
	That was her response, yeah.
	So, we didn't, we, yeah, you never saw her again, never saw her again.
	Will you get a gang up?
	Yikes, what do you mean?
	Definitely.
	Would you get a game?
	Like, if it was like a huge one, I think, just no matter what you say or how you phrase it, some girl's gonna feel some type of way about it.
	Yeah, but honestly, tell her, don't feel embarrassed.
	She's gonna feel embarrassed.
	I hope she did.
	Great show tonight, Brian.
	Nine out of ten panel, ten out of ten if Pearl had a sense of humor.
	Oh, she was mostly good.
	The one thing I took out of that is I really do hope MD Jim donated $30.
	Brixon, you are not fat.
	It is just by company.
	Thank you, Jim.
	Thank you, Jim.
	Women never want to hear the truth.
	I just let them live in their Delulu.
	He just talked about lying.
	But the one thing I did take from that is: I do hope that she is going to her gyno.
	Because it's not like a man would actually say that to a woman unless he truly meant it.
	So I hope she didn't just take it as like, oh, he's being rude or whatever.
	And she actually is going.
	It's up to her.
	Because you know what blows my mind actually that I've learned recently?
	Like, from people that, like, I went on dates with or whatever, even when any of the conversation, like a lot, a lot of men, if you ask them, like, if you've ever been checked for anything, or like, oh, like, I really don't want to do anything with you unless I know that you've been checked.
	Like, and they've never been checked in their life for anything.
	They've never had an STD test.
	They've never.
	Women too.
	Like, so many people just go and do a bunch of things with people and never even think to get themselves checked or anything.
	And that like blows my mind.
	Even if you have like very few partners or just one, you should still get checked.
	You should always get checked.
	Exactly.
	Always.
	Always.
	Good thing to end on.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Good thing to end.
	Also, I think somebody said earlier that I have fake eyebrows.
	First of all, these are not fake.
	These are all real.
	They're tattooed.
	They are not tattooed.
	Really?
	No, they're just very well waxed.
	Threaded.
	I get them threaded.
	That's good.
	Final question.
	Final question.
	Promise.
	What year was World War I?
	What years were World War I?
	Shit.
	Go ahead, Pearl.
	I actually don't know.
	I actually don't know.
	Give us a decade.
	You want to decade?
	Decade.
	Pearl.
	Pearl, decade.
	Decade, Pearl.
	Pearl, decade.
	It's just to make us look stupid.
	No, it's to make you guys look smart because you're all historic historians.
	Y'all watch the might know.
	Yo, shout out Mark Felton Productions.
	I think I may know.
	Shout out Mark Felton Productions.
	Any Mark Felton production enjoyers in the chat?
	My husband would be pretty.
	It started.
	He's more of a World War II guy, though.
	Okay, Jordan, what years were World War I?
	18th century something.
	18th century, okay.
	I think, I could be mixing it up, but I think it is 1913.
	To when?
	1917.
	Okay, what about you?
	1918.
	Give me start end date.
	Oh.
	Start date?
	And end date?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I really couldn't.
	You got this, Liz.
	Come on.
	They teach us in the car rapping school.
	Early 1900s is all I'm going to say.
	That's where car rapping came from, World War I. 18-something.
	18, sorry, 1800s?
	18-something.
	Do you want to take a crack?
	Like, early 1800s or late?
	Also, that's, yeah, that's what I was going to say.
	Okay, Maddie?
	1918 to 19 what 1918 to 1920 okay Ava what about you 1918 go ahead Ava into the mic say clear for the audience Ron Nundus Colbriggs donated thirty dollars actual modern dating question my last GF told me she didn't like giving head later she said she didn't like the hair so I shaved then she said it was weird shaved Prithear pubes are not wise
	that was better than the Frenchman okay I do speak French though you really do too can you have to say something donated $30 no one defend Bear her and her Sandy Oyster need to leave everyone on the panel did phenomenally but Pearl has just raided our dead what do you think it is ward one
	it just sounds funny I'm, I'm gonna co-opt that one, Sandy Oyster.
	Thank you Josh, you introduced me to new word.
	Uh Ava, World War One start ended.
	I forget.
	I literally knew this, like recently too, and I watched.
	Well, early 1900s.
	Nadi was probably like right or almost right.
	Is it 18 to 24?
	What is it?
	Yes, will you tell us please?
	I want to see if I'm right, 1914 to 1918.
	I was close indeed indeed.
	1939 to 1945 Stoic romance 1914 to 1918, made a brush up on one year off of the beginning.
	Good job thanks, you were actually close, the closest.
	Yeah oh, because me and my dad have talked about okay, really quick for Ron's thing.
	He's like, do you guys prefer a guy who like uh, shaves or not?
	Yeah, or don't care?
	Um, show of hands.
	I think everyone should shave.
	Show of hands.
	I don't care, he can be wild, he can do whatever.
	Uh, just keep scary, just groomed.
	It doesn't need to be fully any which way?
	Wait.
	So does that mean so he has to be shaved and you have to be shaved, okay?
	Okay, all right, we're gonna wrap the show there.
	We're gonna wrap the show there.
	Appreciate it, guys?
	Perfect, note, a full workday.
	I mean like groomed on a one or a two setting, not like bald with running water.
	Oh, full workday with running water and snacks.
	Two bottles of toilet, oh my god.
	And the bathroom nearby, oh my god.
	GMD Jim donated $30.
	Mark Felton has the best World War II channel on YouTube.
	Good Colbrickson, great channel, great channel.
	I give him the endorsement.
	Give him the endorsement.
	Oh, we got another one coming out.
	Bold man Marie donated $30.
	All right Jordan, I need to see proof on those eyebrows, they look too perfect to be natural, Hmm.
	It's good.
	Look at that.
	Wow.
	She's got that thick eyebrow hair.
	I've always had very thick eyebrows and very natural and dark.
	But whoever you go to does them very well.
	Yeah, I get them threaded, cleaned up, you know, because I don't want like craziness.
	That's good.
	Because if I don't get them threaded, then they're pretty dark.
	Do you know Vegeta?
	Mm-hmm.
	Anyways, I like it.
	Naruto?
	Huh?
	From Naruto?
	Hold on.
	What?
	Oh, wait.
	Vegeta?
	Wait, no, that's Dragon Ball.
	Wait, that's Dragon Ball, Z?
	This guy right here.
	How could you say this?
	That's fucking blasphemy.
	Wait, hold on.
	You should probably.
	Oh, come on.
	I'm not like an anime expert.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So I do want to say.
	Well played.
	Oh, wait, hold on.
	My cousin's going to be laughing like to the panel.
	Last call, hit the like button, please.
	On your way out, thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who.
	Super Chats donates and supports the show.
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	I was waiting for the yellow one to be pulled up.
	Okay, you can put it on like the video at the top, very top.
	Yeah, guys, like the video, please, on your way out.
	Like I said, we will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Got a pretty good panel for that.
	Assuming there's not flakes and no shows.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram.
	If you can make it to San Barbara, 07's in the chat.
	I hope you guys have a good night.
	Let me do a quick raid on Twitch.
	We're going to raid Frost of Damas.
	I can't pull it up, but he's playing World of Warcraft Classic.
	He's playing hardcore on Defias Pillager.
	He lives in Romania.
	Tell him to say what's up to Andrew Tate, I guess.
	Frosted Domas lives in Romania.
	He's got 15 viewers right now.
	We're going to help the guy out.
	So those of you who watch on Twitch, thank you very much.
	That raid is going to go out in seven seconds.
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	That sent okay, 07's in the chat.
	07's in the chat.
	I hope you guys have a good night.
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