Whatever Podcast - Plus Size Model ONLY Dates Men Who Make $1,000,000+?! Andrew Wilson! Rachel Wilson CRASHES SHOW?!

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Plus Size Model ONLY Dates Men Who Make $1,000,000+?! Andrew Wilson! Rachel Wilson CRASHES SHOW?! | Dating Talk #189

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	I run an influencer marketing agency along with a pet sitting business and I resell clothes.
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	No, it's for brand deals, actually.
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	I'm Lindsay.
	I am 20.
	I live in Venice.
	I'm from Manhattan Beach and I'm a DJ producer and my parents give me money.
	Nice.
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	Yeah.
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	Yes.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Azira.
	I am 20 years old.
	I am originally from LA and Louisiana, so I'm really the real LA.
	Right now, I live in Hollywood, California, and my occupation that I am working on is being a model, hopefully a runway model.
	All right, welcome.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Abby.
	I just moved here from Kansas a few months ago, and I now live in Ventura, California.
	Did have a job when I came out here.
	Now I'm currently seeking employment.
	Yeah, and so I'm really just having fun.
	Age?
	I'm 27.
	27.
	You said you had a job, but you no longer have a job.
	Yeah, I came out here and the employers were not very nice, and so I decided I needed to leave.
	Oh, so you were in Kansas and you moved here because of the job or what was the job?
	You don't have to say the company, just anything.
	It was just managing.
	I managed a store.
	Okay.
	Yeah, but my roommate also, she's my best friend from high school, and so she already lived in Ventura.
	So I had, like, a nice, like, apartment already for me when I got out here.
	So you quit or you got...
	I quit.
	Fire.
	I quit.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Any school?
	Yeah, I graduated in 2019 from Kansas University KU.
	Where were you majoring?
	I was a photography major.
	Okay.
	Sorority?
	I didn't do sorority.
	Okay.
	Any college for you?
	Yes, I went to Columbia College in Chicago.
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	The two of you that might be watching.
	What did you study?
	I studied comedy, writing, and performance.
	Is that the major?
	There it is, yeah.
	It's very rare.
	More people have actually been on the show Survivor as contestants than have my degree.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Look at that.
	Damn.
	You should put that on your resume.
	I'm self-employed.
	There you go.
	Any school?
	Yeah.
	I did community college.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	College?
	I attend University of the West.
	It's a private Buddhist university.
	Private Buddhist?
	Yes.
	Are you Buddhist?
	No.
	Okay.
	What are you studying there?
	I'm studying business administration of accounting.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	No, I didn't go to school.
	Oh, just your whole intro, name, age, occupation, location?
	Hi, my name is St. I jumped around there a little bit, so I kind of threw you off.
	My name is Star.
	I'm 26.
	Born and raised in the Valley in LA, and I'm a TikToker, YouTuber, proceeder.
	No, Silmar.
	Okay.
	Sorry, TikToker, singer.
	YouTuber.
	Social media.
	Rock and roll.
	And how long have you been singing for?
	My whole life.
	Whole life?
	Okay.
	Are you a soprano or?
	I'm an alto.
	Alto.
	Can we hear something?
	Oh, no.
	Not right now.
	No?
	Okay, on the spot.
	On the spot.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Do you have like a new album coming out or anything like that?
	Just a new song coming out next week.
	Okay.
	It was called NPC.
	NPC, okay.
	Is it about NPCs?
	Kind of.
	Okay, cool.
	Very cool.
	What about you?
	My name is Mia Huffman.
	I'm 22.
	I'm from LA.
	Content creator and student.
	Always from LA?
	I'm originally from Orange County, but I just say LA because it's where I live now.
	Gotcha.
	Gotcha.
	Morgan?
	Hi.
	I'm Morgan.
	I'm 18.
	I go to Santa Barbara City College, majoring in political science, and I'm from the Bay Area.
	All right.
	Hi, I'm Ava.
	I'm 24.
	Born and raised in Santa Barbara, and I graduated from UCSB this year.
	What was your major?
	Sociology.
	I know.
	Cool, cool.
	So we're going to go around the table once more.
	What is everybody's current relationship status?
	So are you single, talking stage, situation ship, friends with benefits, relationship married, polycule, sex, cult harem, whatever it may be?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you?
	I'm taken.
	I am in a committed relationship.
	All right.
	How long have you guys been dating?
	We've been dating almost six months.
	Okay.
	Longest relationship?
	About a year and a half, two years.
	Okay.
	I'll just say two years.
	And how did you meet this current person?
	Off of Bumble.
	Bumble.
	Okay.
	So on Bumble, at least I'm assuming when you met, anyways, the woman has to send the first message.
	What was your opening line?
	So the woman, I don't, it's complicated on Bumble because I think that guys can message first based off something on your profile.
	So I don't remember messaging first.
	I don't remember.
	Something about it being Easter, but we're both Jewish, so but he was still doing something for Easter, something like that.
	Oh.
	Yeah, I haven't been on that in two years or something, so maybe they changed it.
	It was right before they kind of got Loki canceled.
	Yeah, they changed it recently.
	Now they just opens it up.
	Anybody can message anybody, basically.
	But apparently it was too much of a burden for the women.
	To message first.
	To send the first message.
	So they had to change it.
	They had to change it.
	That's what they reported.
	It was too much of a hard, too difficult for the ladies to send the first message.
	So I have sent a first message before, but I usually don't.
	Probably why they changed that shit.
	I guess.
	So you guys met on Bumble, been dating for six months.
	Very cool.
	What about you?
	I'm in the talking stage with like a few people.
	Okay.
	My last actual relationship was maybe like broke up like eight months ago?
	Nine?
	I don't remember.
	So you've been.
	I've been single for a minute, yeah.
	And how long was the one that ended nine months ago?
	Like a year-ish.
	And is that your longest relationship?
	No, I dated someone when I was like super young, like 14 for like four years on and off.
	Does that count, panel?
	No, it was like four years though, it was a lot of cheating and this and that.
	So, I but it was like four years, so I was like, I guess how many times did you cheat?
	It was 12, it started actually.
	Well, he cheated first.
	Oh, okay.
	So, me cheating second doesn't really count as me cheating.
	How many times did he cheat on you first?
	Just once, a couple times, uncountable, uncountable, uncountable.
	So, like, how many times did you cheat back?
	It was so nonchalant that I don't remember.
	You know, like, it's so I don't know.
	Oh, okay.
	Like, a few times, like, a few times.
	Like, nothing crazy.
	I was like, 14, you know, I wasn't like.
	People are like cheating on each other at 14.
	Damn, that's crazy.
	It was a really bad relationship besides that.
	So, you said it was that was the longest one.
	You said the four-year one.
	But on and off.
	How many times was it on and off?
	Like, four or five.
	Okay, and how long would those?
	He went to treatment.
	He went to the wilderness therapy.
	Wilderness therapy.
	Yeah.
	So it was like a year break.
	Where did you get?
	Where did I go?
	I wasn't gone during that time.
	I went to rehab later on.
	Wait, how old were you when you went to rehab?
	14.
	The first time.
	14?
	The first time.
	How many times have you been to rehab?
	Twice.
	No.
	No.
	Three, four times.
	Three times.
	I went to an intake for a fourth one, but I didn't end up going.
	I got out of it.
	Like, I told.
	I'm like, I didn't do anything wrong.
	It was school.
	The school told me I had to.
	No, that my school, so it wasn't on my record.
	Huh.
	Okay, and so it was off and on for four years.
	How long were the whole who would end it?
	It would be me.
	But it would also be like, I hate you, and like the text, the calls.
	But the obvious, I didn't know, I didn't know he was going to treatment the first time.
	It was just like a week later.
	I was like, oh, he's in wilderness.
	And then I got a call a year later.
	Like I got a call a year later when he was leaving.
	He's like, I'm at the airport.
	I'm calling you on a payphone.
	Crazy.
	And then when you guys were trying to get back together, who would initiate that?
	You, him?
	I wanted drugs, so I'd go back to him.
	Damn, that's.
	He had like, he had like drugs, he was like friends with like all these like, you know, crazy, like Compton people.
	Just like Compton, like hood, like, like gang members.
	So I was like, I want drugs.
	Excuse me.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	No, no, it's so you said you're currently in a couple talking stages.
	Yeah, like talking is a little too far, but like, you know, like the like, hey, you up type of relationships.
	What do you mean by the hit you up type relationship?
	No, like the you up relationships.
	It's like 1 a.m.
	I'm not doing anything.
	Oh, the you up, excuse me, okay.
	Yes.
	Who sends the you up message, you or the guys or both?
	Me.
	You do it?
	It's girls and guys.
	Oh, you date both?
	Okay.
	So you're bi?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I suppose I should add orientation for you then?
	I'm.
	I would say queer, but mostly just like bisexual.
	Pan?
	Or by?
	I don't really take on pansexual.
	Are you bi or pan?
	Bye.
	Bye.
	Sorry, no, I didn't mean to.
	No, no, I didn't mean that shit either.
	I didn't mean it like that.
	You got your tongue tied, and I was.
	Of course, that's why.
	Copying the tongue tie.
	Okay.
	Cancelled.
	No, no, canceled.
	I'm done.
	Multiple.
	So how many girls right now are in the picture for you?
	Three.
	Mm-hmm.
	People are watching this, so.
	What?
	Oh, is it more than three?
	What?
	Is it more than three?
	No, I just don't want them to know that there's three.
	Oh, yeah.
	Nobody watches the show.
	They're probably.
	Well, that's how I met Lucy on Hinge, though, and she said she's watching.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	So, and then how many guys?
	None really.
	There's one guy that me and my friend were hooking up with, and I met him from like a three, like this guy, like this girl.
	She's like, oh, I'm friends with this porn star.
	And then we had him over.
	Like, just like to hang out, basically.
	Sure.
	He ended up moving in with me and my roommate for a bit.
	He's at my house right now, but he does porn.
	He like.
	Oh, what?
	Yeah, he's a porn star.
	And he moved in.
	So he moved in with this, and he was like hooking up with me and my friend, whatever.
	Like threesome?
	No, no, no, no.
	Separate.
	Wait, your friend lives with you.
	Yeah.
	So this guy is living rent-free with you and fucking both of the housemates.
	Good deal.
	He yells at our scary neighbor, but now we're like super close friends to the point where nothing is.
	I'm sorry.
	My neighbor threatened.
	Because my neighbor threatened us and he's like the protector because we live in Venice, but there's always like humans and stuff.
	Venice is kind of nice.
	And I have like a tendency to move people in.
	I'm about to move by myself and I already have my ex moving in with me.
	I'm complicated.
	Sorry.
	No, it's okay.
	I'm taking up a lot of time.
	Oh, no, it's all good.
	We give people as much time as necessary.
	So porn star moves in with you.
	He's hooking up with you and your housemate separately.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And then, so he's the only guy you're sort of dealing with right now.
	Yeah, but we're like, he's like one of my best friends.
	You guys are friends.
	He has an apartment now.
	I see.
	But he's staying with me because I like him there.
	Yeah.
	And you guys have, you're dating three women.
	I'm not dating.
	Yeah.
	Well, you're hooking up with three, right?
	So four currently.
	What's the biggest yourself?
	Hypothetically.
	Are these like side pieces or hypothetically?
	Yeah, in the video game.
	Huh?
	Video game?
	Like it's like streamer, streamer lingo.
	Like you're not actually doing it, it's in a video game.
	Okay.
	Like you want to like hurt somebody in a video game.
	Sure.
	You know what?
	I don't know what that means, but yes.
	Probably if you said it, it's correct.
	Wait, so in the three girls you're seeing, do you consider them are they side hoes?
	There's no main hoe.
	Is there a main hoe?
	There's no main hoe.
	I like some of them, but it's a secret who.
	Start watching.
	Is it Lucy?
	No.
	Maybe.
	But you don't like, Lucy's watching right now.
	She's watching, I love her.
	How are you going to throw her under the...
	You just said no.
	I'm going to throw Lucy under the bud.
	Lucy.
	You need to apologize to Lucy right now into this camera.
	No, we're dating.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So what is the biggest the roster has ever been?
	The roster gets big, but the actual hanging out off dating apps is small.
	Does that make sense?
	No, no one else relates.
	Got it.
	Got it.
	Does that mean like you'll hook up infrequently?
	No, like we never actually met up because I just like I get it.
	I get overwhelmed.
	Like the ADHD kicks in.
	But so like right now you have four on the roster.
	Three.
	Four.
	Are you not counting the guy?
	Not really.
	No.
	But you guys are hooking up, right?
	Not as often.
	We hang out.
	Like, we skateboard.
	Well, we ski yeah, we.
	When's the last time you guys hooked up?
	Two weeks ago?
	Three weeks ago?
	We're not like that, you know?
	It's like a friend thing.
	It's literally a friends with benefit thing.
	Like, we'll kiss and stuff, but that's it.
	When's the last time you guys kissed?
	Like, three days ago.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	What's the biggest the roster's ever been then?
	Four, three.
	But the actual hanging out, my body count's not that big.
	Oh.
	I wasn't asking that, but.
	No, I mean, if you.
	You can, if you want.
	No, I mean, like, if the roster was nine, like, my body count didn't go up nine, if that makes sense.
	Oh.
	I'm like a one and done, too, type of person.
	Wait.
	Like we met at a club or this or that.
	Wait, when you...
	Like a one night stand.
	One and done.
	Like a one-night stand.
	Yeah, yeah, no, I know.
	But you said that if your roster is this much, it doesn't increase your body count.
	Because I didn't, because I didn't, like, follow through.
	Like, the Instagram DMs are popping, but like, the actual like execution is not there.
	Okay, that's fair.
	Yes, exactly.
	Okay.
	So you mentioned that you mostly do one and dones, like one-night stands?
	Yeah, I'll kick people out if it's weird, though, too.
	I had to kick someone out.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Is it mostly like girls that you're hooking up with?
	Yeah.
	Like, which do you prefer, guys or girls?
	Girls.
	Okay.
	Guys are just for fun.
	And girls are for what?
	For fun, I guess, too.
	But like, I just get bored.
	Yeah, I get bored.
	I get bored.
	I get bored.
	You get bored?
	What does that mean?
	Because I'm like, just like sitting around, I'm like, guys are so easy.
	You get, wait, you get bored.
	Like, I just get bored.
	I'll be like, oh, I kind of want to hook up with a guy.
	Oh, I see.
	Because guys are so easy.
	Like, they're like, oh, I'll be there in 10 minutes.
	Like, girls, they're like, oh, let me get my makeup on and all this bullshit.
	Yeah.
	Damn.
	It's true.
	Interesting.
	And so.
	Hmm.
	So I'm just processing.
	There's a lot of information coming at me.
	I'm trying to process.
	So, okay.
	Mostly.
	So wait, you said guys are just for fun.
	Like fun.
	Like, I'm bored.
	Like, but.
	They're rare.
	They're rare.
	I'll put it that way.
	But like for a long-term serious relationship, it would have to be.
	I don't think I date a guy as of right now.
	I see.
	As of right now, I wouldn't date a guy, if that makes sense.
	Like, no feelings.
	Okay.
	We can definitely jump into more of that later on in the show.
	What about you?
	Right now, I am currently single.
	I wish I had a boyfriend.
	That would be so great.
	And yeah.
	Okay.
	Longest relationship?
	Two to three years.
	How long have you been single?
	About two years.
	Now, last time you were on the show, you said that you were involved, sort of involved with this guy.
	You want to get back with him, but you kind of don't, and it's kind of toxic.
	Have you been in contact with him since the last time you were on the show?
	No, I haven't.
	I've actually been doing really good.
	I think nothing.
	Okay, nothing.
	Nothing.
	Nothing.
	Question mark, none of that.
	But I think that since his birthday is coming up, I've been like really trying not to.
	Like, I have to try hard to keep myself to myself.
	Interesting.
	Okay.
	So you said you've been, are you on dating apps at all?
	No.
	No, they're scary.
	You said you've been single for two years, but when is the last time you did see the toxic ex?
	Well, I don't know if he's the toxic one, but when's the last time you saw the toxic relationship that is mostly 99% your fault, but just kidding.
	Okay, okay.
	Just kidding.
	That seriously.
	That was, yeah, it was now I think it's been two months.
	Two months.
	No.
	So in that time period, have there been any guys in the picture?
	Recently, an old guy tried to come back into my life.
	Like he's old as in his age or like old as in you?
	Old as in I dated him a while ago.
	I actually met him on BLK.
	What's that?
	It's a black dating app.
	You on that, Desmond?
	Do you think I would do good on there?
	Can I join?
	Am I allowed to join?
	Yeah, Loki, I seen a couple people who wasn't black and I was like, okay, you know what I'm saying?
	It's like the plus size one.
	Where like anyone can join like looking for like somebody plus size.
	They're just trying to promote black love like so that we could kind of feel like we can find someone that's the same race as us, but we still have the option for other people.
	Would it be offensive if what?
	Why did you say yeah before I even finished?
	You just know what I'm gonna say.
	So would it be wrong like to consider myself African-American?
	No, let me explain.
	Hold on.
	Let me explain.
	So my dad was born in North Africa and my mom was born in America.
	So if my dad was born in Africa and my mom was born in America, technically I'm African American.
	I agree.
	Right?
	I agree.
	I agree with that.
	Right, Desmond?
	Yes.
	Yeah, you're not black, though.
	Of course.
	But I can say, can I say I'm African-American?
	If that's the case.
	I'm 0.3% African.
	I don't want to tell you yes, and then you go somewhere and then like where would I go?
	Where would I?
	Don't you speak French?
	Was it a francophone country?
	Possibly.
	So then, yeah, I think you can't say that you're African.
	He was born in Africa.
	My dad was born in Africa.
	Then you can say it.
	Okay, anyways.
	So what about you?
	Relationship status?
	I'm single.
	I've been single for four years now.
	All right.
	Longest relationship?
	Year and a half.
	All right.
	Was that the one that ended four years ago?
	No.
	The one that lasted a year and a half was in college.
	And then the one that happened during COVID, that lasted like eight months.
	Gotcha.
	So in the four-year period, have you been dating at all?
	I've tried, and then I get into situationships, and I didn't like see them coming.
	I'm like, no, I don't want that.
	And then it just ends up being a situationship.
	So what does that look like?
	It looks like all the benefits of a relationship with none of the like commitment or actual like labels.
	So like guys will like, they would like make me dinner or something and I'd be like, oh, they really want to date me.
	Like they're doing like being proactive and like planning things.
	And then they'd just be like, oh, like, I don't know if I'm really ready to like take this anywhere.
	They just wanted to like keep it very surface level and I never see it coming.
	Okay.
	And when's your most recent situationship?
	That was like a month ago, but that ended very quickly.
	So.
	When did you move to California again?
	Three months ago.
	Okay, so you've been dating somewhat in like, I guess I can't even say it was dating.
	It was like two dates and then I got, and then I was like, never mind.
	Did you meet on a dating app?
	No, we met in person.
	I prefer to meet in person.
	I deleted all my dating apps.
	Where did you guys meet?
	We met at a bar.
	Okay, gotcha.
	I wonder if, like, meeting at a bar, is it better than a dating app?
	Or is it about the same?
	I prefer in person because I'm mostly like it needs to be like, I need to be like physically attracted to you, and then I need to like really kind of like know your vibe off the bat.
	I feel like every time I look through photos and I just really, like, I'll ex more than I ever like.
	So in person, it's just a lot easier.
	Okay.
	And so you're not on dating apps?
	No, I'm not on any.
	Any guys currently in the picture right now?
	No.
	Nothing.
	No, I'm honestly just going dormant at the moment.
	Nothing.
	Like I'm looking for love and then I'm like looking for it in just really odd ways.
	And then, yeah, I'm going on like dating shows or stuff like that.
	But I'm honestly just like wanting to meet someone in person.
	You said you were on Jubilee?
	Yeah, I recently did a topic or whatever?
	It hasn't come out yet.
	It was two best friends swiping on 50 women.
	And so they swiped for each other.
	And then it was like mini speed dates.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	So single for four years, situationships, longest relationship 1.5 years.
	Any differences when it comes to dating here in California versus in Kansas or about the same?
	I honestly left Kansas and I lived in Kansas City for a while and I left.
	I'd been there for like years and hadn't found anyone and it's really hard to meet someone.
	I don't know who actually wants a relationship there and I kind of am feeling like I moved here and it's the same.
	So it's okay though.
	Is Kansas the south or is that the Midwest?
	Yeah, that's okay.
	I don't know.
	Geography is not my strong suit.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	All right, single.
	How long have you been single for?
	Technically a year, over a year.
	But I did fall in love a month ago?
	A month ago?
	Or two months?
	Yeah.
	Longest relationship?
	Four years.
	Three and a half.
	Oh, sorry.
	Okay.
	And you said you fell in love a month ago?
	What happened there?
	Well, we didn't make it out the talking stage, but we fell in love.
	He was a virgin, and he was super Christian and very sweet.
	But he wanted to marry a virgin because he made that pact with him when he was a kid, so he couldn't get past that.
	He made the pact with who?
	Oh, with himself.
	Oh, that he would stay a virgin and marry a virgin.
	And I'm not a virgin, so we love each other, but I respect that.
	That's what he wants to marry.
	Wait, so how long were you guys, I guess, talking or dating?
	Like a month, but we were friends for a month and then we were talking for a month and fell in love.
	Oh, you were friends first?
	Yeah.
	I see.
	Okay.
	But I mean, like romantic love or like a friendship love?
	Romantic.
	But no sex.
	But I mean, this whole virgin thing, Tim, sounds like it was a pretty big deal, right?
	Yeah, he couldn't get past it.
	Like, he wanted to, but he was like, I just really.
	He was also 20, so maybe it was, like, kind of an age thing that maybe he'll get over it.
	Chickens of milk.
	I'm kidding.
	So you're 26, he was 20.
	Yeah.
	Of the guys you're interested in, do you like young guys or this kind of more of a fluke situation?
	I used to like older guys or guys my age, but recently they've been like 21, 20, and I don't know why, but that's just what's been coming my way.
	And I'm like, okay.
	Okay, there you go.
	There you go.
	So, uh, he wanted, I'm just confused why.
	If he was so set on this whole virgin thing, it seems like he kind of perhaps led you on a little bit.
	A little bit.
	Like unintentionally.
	He was like confused.
	Like it was like, it was complicated.
	But it was meant to happen.
	He got me closer to God.
	You said he's Christian?
	Do you know what denomination he is?
	Protestant.
	Just normal Catholic.
	Catholic.
	Okay.
	Christian.
	Okay.
	Were you upset when he told you he's like, I'm in love with you?
	And then, well, you loved him too.
	And he's like, yeah, but you're not a virgin.
	Sorry.
	Like, is that upsetting to hear?
	No, because he didn't want to say it.
	Like, he was like crying saying it because he didn't want to hurt my feelings.
	He's like, I don't want to, like, but I'm like, just say it.
	Like, just be honest.
	Like, it's not going to hurt my feelings.
	I just want you to be honest.
	So that was just coming from his heart.
	And I was like sad, but he said it in such a gentle way that I knew it was just authentically how he felt.
	Did you try to get him to have sex with you like when you guys were talking?
	Oh no, I wouldn't try.
	Yeah, I was just curious.
	No.
	He was crying?
	Yeah, like we were crying.
	Like it was really sad.
	Who started crying first?
	I think he did.
	And then so he started crying and then you started crying.
	What was the period of time you guys were both crying at the same time?
	It was like 12 hours in a car of us crying and making out and getting dinner and going to a beautiful scenery.
	Like we couldn't leave each other.
	So we were like crying, kissing, and then it's like, oh, it has to end.
	It was a whole thing.
	Is he gay?
	Definitely.
	Am I wrong for asking that, but like a 12-hour talking cry session?
	Sounds very feminine.
	hey if he's gay that's totally cool i just feel like that guy on the bachelor that didn't have sex the football player he's He's not.
	He's definitely not gay.
	He's just an emotional person.
	Is that out of pocket?
	I don't know if that's out of pocket, but.
	It's not bad if he's gay.
	It's not bad if he's gay.
	I'm just asking.
	Like, I think he could be.
	He could be gay?
	No.
	Maybe?
	Nah, he had a lot of emotional intelligence for a young guy.
	I like guys like that.
	He's not gay.
	Did he know that you weren't a virgin before you guys were friends or while you guys were friends?
	Yeah.
	So then why did he engage in a relationship with you romantically if he knew that you weren't a virgin?
	Because he said he was trying to get past it, but he couldn't.
	And I think that might have to do with his age.
	Like, maybe it is like a maturity thing that you can't get past.
	I've had sex before.
	I don't know.
	He was a complicated person.
	I'm curious.
	Was it he's allowed to kiss you?
	Did you ever say that?
	Oh, yeah, we would kiss you.
	You were allowed to kiss.
	Okay, I'm not familiar with Christianity.
	Like, you're allowed to kiss.
	You just can't have sex.
	Well, it wasn't even his faith.
	It was the fact that he made it as a commitment himself.
	Because of his faith, yeah.
	Oh, because of his faith.
	Yeah, that's why I asked.
	I kind of get it because I have an ex who I don't think I've ever slept with anyone before me.
	And it was a big deal to him that I wasn't a virgin as well.
	Oh, really?
	Well, he was?
	I mean, not after we had started dating, but afterwards, he felt like it was.
	I feel like he thought he was too inexperienced.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	But he was a virgin when I met him.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	He cried for 20 years.
	No, but I get the crying.
	I get the being upset because he's like upset that I feel like the reason is because like he wishes that maybe you weren't a vert or maybe he wishes that you were a virgin, but you weren't.
	And he's like conflicted about his religious beliefs.
	But he like, if they're claiming they love each other, they love each other.
	So if he's like in love with Star, he's got a lot of conflicting emotions with his faith and things like that.
	So I get it.
	Yeah.
	And he doesn't date to date.
	He dates to Mary.
	So he's like, if I were to date to date, I would love to date you, but I just know like marriage-wise, it's not what I'm looking for.
	And I think that's actually really responsible to cut it off there instead of going in it and being like, oh, wait, we're not going to get married probably.
	You know, I don't know.
	Were you guys the same faith?
	Well, he got me, he got me closer to God.
	I was like, all right.
	And then we had like a spiritual whole thing.
	I'm not laughing at you.
	I just feel like the pendulum, I don't know if the pendulum needs to swing back, and I'm going to probably get accused of toxic masculinity.
	But we need to teach men to like, you got to fucking stifle that shit.
	First off, I wouldn't be inclined.
	Yeah, you got to push that shit.
	You got to keep that shit bottled in.
	So like 10 years down the road, you have a massive aneurysm.
	That's what being a man is.
	On the brink of aneurysm.
	I like masculinity.
	There you go.
	As somebody who's biased.
	Stifle that shit.
	As somebody who's bi, if I want a guy, they have to be a guy.
	Otherwise, I'd go with the girl.
	There was this one guy.
	He was like, a girl, I want a guy.
	Does that make sense?
	Does that make sense?
	Bro.
	I like masculinity.
	Just open the door for me.
	Bro, you can't cry.
	He opened the door for me.
	No, I'm saying, I don't want the crying.
	I don't want the crying.
	I bet someone crying.
	I'm not just saying the crying.
	I just think it's strange that he knew for a month who you were as a person.
	Like, you didn't meet that criteria.
	He engaged with you for another month, in addition to the friendship, knowing that maybe he was developing feelings from the friendship, developed that for a further month as a romantic thing.
	You guys continued with kissing, and then he's against the virginity issue.
	It's just strange.
	It's just like you already knew this.
	Why did you engage?
	You knew that both feelings were going to get involved.
	It's just weird.
	And she said he's dating to marry.
	And he's dating to marry.
	It's like you have love.
	You purposefully knew that you weren't going to marry this person and you wasted, not wasted, obviously, the love and everything.
	I don't doubt that you guys fell in love.
	But it's just kind of like you knew the checklist was not going to get checked off.
	So why did he do it?
	Not your fault.
	Just he knew that.
	Yeah, no blame on it.
	It's kind of a Westside story.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I know why, like, I understand it's because he was trying to get past it, but couldn't.
	So he just had these conflicting feelings and was like, oh, I can't.
	Sure.
	And it's a little immature, but I respect if that's how he feels.
	Okay.
	We'll come back to that in just a bit.
	Mia, we'll get your relationship status.
	I'm single.
	All right.
	How long have you been single for?
	I've been single since January.
	I did a long-term relationship.
	So, eight months, nine months?
	Eight, nine months, yeah.
	All right.
	Longest relationship?
	That was three years.
	Was that the one that ended eight months ago?
	Yeah, that was the longest.
	And yeah.
	So wait.
	Weren't you on the show in like late 2023?
	No, I think I was on the show right after the break.
	Well, no, you've been.
	No, you were on the show in 2023.
	Was I?
	I'm pretty sure.
	I think.
	I think we communicated.
	But you said you were single.
	We might have broken up at that time.
	Guys, find the clip.
	I mean, we did.
	Was she actually in the.
	Whatever.
	I think we probably were on a breakup by that point.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And then we've heard it from these two before.
	So, going back to your thing, Star, you said in your pre-show notes, Last Day to the Virgin that showed me the presence of God while I was having paranormal/slash supernatural experiences.
	Now I'm super spiritual religious after that and celibate waiting for marriage.
	Yeah.
	And so you were having a paranormal, supernatural experience?
	What was that?
	Well, I moved into this very beautiful house, but it's just really old.
	And I was having paranormal activity there.
	And like, it was really scary.
	But yeah, so he would come over and we would like pray away the demons.
	And wait, I'm sorry.
	It was like a hominid house.
	It's okay.
	Hominid house.
	Yeah, I moved into like a creator house.
	And it's like old, like French European.
	And like I was having paranormal activity.
	No, keep going.
	You're fine.
	And yeah, like that night that him and I were together, we were having like my monitor was going off super loud and he was like praying away the demons but also like praying the Holy Spirit into me and I felt God's presence for the first time ever and it just felt like like happiness and love and just like I've never felt that before and then the like the paranormal activity stopped and I got delivered by a pastor too.
	Delivered?
	Yeah.
	What does that mean?
	So I had like from all my trauma and a lot of negative stuff in my life I had like bad spirits in me.
	I just believe everything's spiritual.
	So he's like rebuked the spirit of Jezebel, like the lust spirit, the anger.
	And then I've been a lot happier.
	Was it an exorcism?
	Kind of.
	You went through an exorcism?
	Deliverance.
	Wait, you were exorcised?
	Not like in the movies.
	But like, yes, I had like fasting and prayer, and I feel so much better.
	And was the guy there, the crying for 12 hours guy?
	He was only there when he was like praying the spirits away and praying like God's presence into me, which I felt, but he wasn't there for the deliverance.
	And sorry, wait, the deliverance is the after the exorcism?
	Is that the exorcism?
	Is that another term of the exorcism?
	Okay.
	Oh, okay.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	Interesting.
	And then now you said after that, you're now spiritual religious.
	Are you Christian?
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	What denomination?
	I don't know what that is.
	Do you go to a church?
	Yeah, like a Christian church.
	Do you know the denomination of the church?
	No.
	Do you know what it's like when it says church, whatever saint or not saint that it says?
	Does it say evangelical, Protestant, Presbyterian?
	I think it's just normal Christian.
	It's called Evergreen.
	It's in Venice area.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	You said that.
	And now, though, you're now celibate/slash waiting for marriage.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And you think you're going to hold firm, hold steadfast?
	I think so.
	Yeah.
	When I get engaged, that'll be hard.
	But When you get engaged?
	Yeah, like when I get engaged, I'll probably want to have sex with the person I'm going to marry, but till then, I don't want to have sex.
	There's just so much that comes with it.
	Like, you can get STDs, you can get pregnant.
	True.
	It's a lot of suffering.
	Super true.
	Okay.
	And going back to the whole like 12 hours in the car talking, crying thing.
	Ladies, would that be would that make you more or less attracted to a guy if he started like you've only known him?
	You knew him for a month, right?
	Two months.
	Two months.
	Like two months.
	Is two months too soon for a guy to start crying?
	A little bit.
	A little soon.
	Like a guy crying.
	I'd appreciate that they can show their emotions, but for 12 hours, it's a long day.
	That's long.
	It's a lot.
	That's half someone you know for two months.
	It wasn't crying for 12 hours.
	Half an hour.
	No, but I've cried, but by myself, I'll go in the car and cry.
	Like, I'm not showing you that I care.
	Otherwise, like, you see that I care.
	I'm like, it's not, it's not mature.
	It's just like, I don't want to come off as that.
	Like, I don't want you telling anyone I cried.
	I think if it's like the 12 hours of processing together for a relationship that's going to be moving forward, I think that's good that you're putting the time and effort into communicating that much and being that open.
	But if he knew at like hour one, like we're done for good, but I'm still going to continue on for the next like day, then that's where it's like, what are you doing?
	Was it like you guys, the meeting was, we are going to end this?
	That was his plan?
	Or was it like we hung out, we went on a date six hours in, then he finds out and he's like, or he figures it out at that moment.
	He's like, you know what?
	It's really like weighing in on me.
	Like I can't do it.
	And that's when like the other six hours came on.
	We had a week break and he was like thinking about it and we're like thinking about it of how to go about it.
	And that meeting, his intention was to end it.
	Oh, so he came into meeting to end it.
	Yeah, but I was coming in to just fight it.
	Not.
	He didn't want to end it.
	I didn't know what his decision was.
	So if so, if he changed, if he had a change up and he was like, I actually want to date you, would you date him?
	No, I wouldn't.
	Why?
	Because I've come to a realization throughout this experience that I'm not going to date till I'm who I want to be in life.
	Who do you want to be in life?
	Just like where I want to be in my career and mentally and everything.
	I see.
	I feel like I'll attract the right person.
	How did he ask you if you were a virgin or not?
	He didn't.
	I just was open about stuff.
	Well, let's assume when you are ready to be in a relationship, he comes back into the picture.
	Would you date him then?
	If he seems like he is mature and I've seen his growth, then yeah.
	Oh, is he not mature?
	No, he wants to be at a better place too.
	I see.
	We've realized that.
	If he came around, I don't know if this parses now that you've answered the question that we have, but assuming you were ready to date somebody, if he came around and he's like, yeah, that whole waiting till marriage celibacy thing, I'm actually just throwing that out the window.
	Are you DTF?
	Would you smash?
	Oh, no.
	You wouldn't?
	I would not.
	Okay, that's fine.
	I was just curious because maybe he has like a.
	He changes up or something.
	By the way, I wasn't trying to like.
	I mean, I wasn't trying to bully the guy over the crying, but I don't think it's a I don't think it's like a great idea to be crying in front of people You know what I mean?
	I think it's so attractive You were more attracted to him when he started crying?
	Yeah, I don't know that wasn't the first time he did it.
	I think honestly Wait, that wasn't the first time I honestly think when at least when it comes to men The only time you should cry is when you have a loss or like some sort of you either have like maybe catastrophic health problem family member catastrophic health problem somebody dies loss of an aunt like a loved a well-loved pet like a dog
	I can't, I don't think you can cry like if you'd been talking to a girl for two months.
	Grown men, don't cry, I'm sorry.
	Stifle that shit.
	Indulge in the toxic masculinity, be toxic, be toxic masculinity.
	Don't cry.
	I don't know, I don't know.
	Man anyways uh, we need, we have some reacts we have to get to.
	So could you grab that for me?
	Uh so Nick, could you pull up our first reaction?
	Thank you uh yes, I think I think.
	Uh, nope.
	Not this one.
	Next tab.
	All right.
	Make it bigger.
	Okay, go ahead.
	I think the toxic masculinity is so destructive for our culture.
	Cheers to that right.
	I wish all men were feminists like you.
	So refreshing, right.
	Here's that check for you, sir.
	How dare you assume that because I'm a man, that I'm gonna be paying for this whole dinner?
	Women are totally capable of paying for themselves.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Do you want me to split the bill between you two of them?
	Actually, why don't we do this so we can really drive this point home for you, because you're giving me very misogynistic vibes.
	Leave the entire bill and she will pay for the entire thing because she is a strong, independent woman who does not need a man to provide.
	As a feminist woman, wouldn't you agree with that?
	Yeah yeah, I guess in that case.
	Uh, here's the check, ma'am.
	Uh, i'm sorry.
	Okay, canceled.
	I cannot believe how toxic that guy was.
	Right, so toxic.
	Oh my god, this is expensive.
	Oh, you got it.
	Are you gonna help me?
	Absolutely not.
	As a feminist man, I don't want to imply that you can't defend yourself just because you're a woman.
	Are you serious?
	Right now, she's capable of defending yourself as a man.
	All right, this i'm getting a conservative and that's why, against a feminist man uh okay, so going around the table, your reaction to that?
	That's funny, that's it, that's yeah, it's funny, like it's real.
	Um, so then I I guess uh well, i'll go around the table and i'll ask some more follow-up questions.
	Absolutely no, no to what?
	No, no to all of it, all of it, all of it.
	If a guy's not like, i'm gonna take you to lunch.
	I don't want it.
	Like I said I, if i'm going out with a guy, I want him to be a full.
	I like conservative men.
	If he, if he's, not pay, I like, I like that.
	I like an assertive, like confident guy that like can prove himself.
	Because if I want to marry a guy, I want him.
	I want to be a housewife type type thing.
	The video, honestly, I think he played her because he knew he didn't have no money, so he was like, all right, this is how you get him like reverse psychology.
	I feel like he did not really feel like that.
	He just wanted to like flip the script to show her how it would feel if he were yeah.
	No, I don't like that, I don't know, I don't know.
	Okay.
	Any reaction?
	Okay.
	Oh, I know a girl.
	She's my friend.
	Oh, you know her friend.
	Her name is Ariel.
	Oh, nice.
	Okay.
	Oh, the video?
	I don't know.
	I didn't think he was that funny.
	But I like guys that are providers, but also care about women.
	I like a guy that cares about women, but also definitely a provider.
	I think it's kind of funny, like meeting men that are like, oh, I'm feminist, and like kind of do that.
	And I have met men that do that, and they make those jokes.
	And it's like, oh, well, you can pay for it.
	And it's like, you clearly, like, you're just fucking with it.
	Like, you're just using that as like a play with it.
	To like, I'm going to like amp that up.
	Okay, I'm a feminist, so she can afford it.
	I'm a feminist, but like you make money.
	Like, it's not funny, especially when you're dating.
	Okay.
	Morgan, any reaction?
	I don't know.
	I wouldn't want a guy like that, but also I think he's kind of like showing the other side, I guess, like showing fucking script.
	Ava.
	I agree with Morgan.
	All right.
	So then, kind of related to that, who do you think should pay on a first date, men or women?
	I think that men should pay on a first date.
	And that's just how I feel.
	Yeah.
	Wait, hold on.
	How do I want to frame this?
	Okay, yeah, yeah.
	Who should pay?
	What's the frame rate?
	Who should pay?
	Disregard that.
	Who should pay?
	I feel like I know what you're going to ask.
	Just answer the question.
	Okay, men.
	Okay.
	Either men or the person who asked, because I'm not asking nobody on a date if I don't have money to take you on a date.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I second that.
	Well, so just one point of clarification.
	I know sometimes there'll be a tendency to agree with somebody before you says, but just state your own opinion.
	Just, you can even just state it.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, I mean, I offer to pay, but they don't let me.
	I think they should, though.
	Okay.
	I prefer men to pay.
	I'll offer on occasion, but asking out, et cetera, like men.
	What about you?
	I would say men, but I would split if they would ask, I guess.
	Okay.
	Men, but I'm also in a relationship and we switch off and I'm fine doing that.
	Sure.
	By the way, guys, I forgot to mention this.
	Andrew Wilson's going to be doing a call-in a little bit later on the show.
	I forgot to mention that during the intro.
	I'm not sure exactly when he's going to be doing the call-in, but maybe an hour or two, something like that.
	So going around the table once more, are you a feminist, starting with you?
	I would say that yes, I am a feminist because I want women to have the same opportunities and be equal to men.
	I think that some of the classic modern feminist tropes have taken it a bit too far and I don't agree with certain things in regards to feminism that I think a lot of modern day feminists do.
	I guess I would consider myself to be more old-fashioned thinking.
	I used to be more liberal and leftist when I was in Chicago and I still hold on to a lot of those beliefs but I think I've become more like in the middle and moderate when it comes to you are you serious?
	Yeah I don't feel very good.
	You don't feel good?
	No, like hot, overheating.
	I'm actually.
	I'm feeling sick.
	I'm feeling sick.
	You're feeling sick because of the heat.
	Yeah, and the lines and like the just sitting out.
	Aren't you an actress?
	No.
	No.
	I don't feel very good.
	I don't want to like.
	The conversation about who pays is what pushed you over the edge?
	No, I'm like feeling like I'm like uh do you need a we have some Gatorade and do you want some Gatorade?
	You want to sit for a bit?
	See if you feel a bit better?
	Maybe.
	Okay, you're welcome to.
	I do not feel good.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't want to cause anything.
	Okay.
	Do you want to you can sit?
	There's Gatorade in the fridge.
	There's applesauce.
	Somebody back there want to show a little accommodation?
	Okay.
	Sorry for the interruption there.
	So you said you used to be a feminist?
	I used to be more like liberal and I guess we'd consider like angry feminist type, but I've kind of found myself as I age and grow and meet more people and open my mind to certain things.
	And I think moving has changed a lot of my opinions because I used to live in Chicago and I moved back to LA and just I think a lot of my beliefs have kind of changed over the years.
	So I wouldn't consider myself not a feminist, but I would say I used to be leaning even more towards the left and now I've kind of come to a good middle ground.
	When did that switch up start or take place?
	Probably like two and a half, three years ago.
	Okay.
	Two and a half, three years ago.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	Oh me?
	Yeah.
	No.
	I mean no.
	I think I like the feminist movement, but I think the new wave feminism is like I agree.
	It's taken it way too far.
	I think that people who are still protesting for like there's no rights for women here.
	I don't think that there's an opportunity that women can't have here.
	Like I think in America everyone can like do what they want, whether it's that.
	Like if you're protesting for other countries where women don't have where women don't have rights, I agree with that.
	But here I think that I have as much rights as you do.
	There's not one thing that you can do that I can't.
	So I don't agree with that.
	I think like if you're protesting saying you have more opportunities as a male, I would disagree with that.
	Okay.
	Are you a feminist?
	As far as feminism goes, I'm not really a feminist, say per se, but women independence is very important to me.
	I know that I have been independent all of my life and I really try to make sure that everyone around me is very independent as far as the women.
	So I think that as far as feminism, I care about women being independent, but I don't really put it together with feminism.
	I think feminism is bigger than just women being independent.
	I wouldn't label myself a feminist because I don't really know what that comes with because I'm not for like modern day stuff.
	I do think that women biologically have these traits and men have these traits, but like I like women.
	I love girls more than men sometimes.
	They make me feel safe.
	I wouldn't say I'm a feminist.
	I do empower women to be independent and seek opportunity and everything, but I think it's already equal at this point, especially in these states.
	I agree and I recognize that in other places, obviously there's not nearly as much equality, but not a new wave or anything feminist by any means.
	So I guess going back to you, you seemed like, and it's special, I'll get into the notes here in a bit.
	You said pretty strongly that you think men should pay.
	You also consider yourself a feminist.
	You said men and women should have the same opportunities.
	Women should be equal to men.
	I guess how do you reconcile all that with men should pay for first aids, yes?
	I said I've become more old-fashioned.
	I would ask to split.
	However, I feel like I kind of relate to the clip that I saw where I think that, yeah, like if I'm going, like, because I do identify as buyer queer, so it's like I'm open to dating women, but I think that a good thing about dating a man is like they're going to like be able to maybe provide more, at least in my experience.
	I know some women are the providers in their relationships, but that's just not the kind of relationship that I'm looking for.
	But like some of the other ladies here at the table said, I am willing and offering to pay, but I think that if a guy asks a girl out, then he should be the one to pay.
	Okay.
	Well, so that kind of goes into the whole like, well, whoever asks should pay thing, right?
	If a girl is asking a guy out, I think that's already an issue.
	why is that an issue um i just don't think that most mo i think that that's where it kind of gets like harder into like being like a like certain side feminist i guess where like you want to chase men but i think that men naturally want to be the pursuers and they want to chase i mean this is just like majority I don't think, I think there's like majority of our American society.
	Well, I don't know if it's actually the case that a majority of men want to be pursuers insofar as a majority of men are never pursued.
	So they would actually have no perspective as to I think some have been.
	Well, that's not what I said, though.
	I feel like majority haven't.
	So what percentage of men do you think have been pursued by women?
	I mean, I guess if we're talking about like this levels of attractiveness, then probably like the top like 10, 9, 8, 7s would be getting pursued by women who are like a lower point system.
	So like the fours, the threes, the twos.
	If that's like a thing we want to base dating off of, which I think a lot of men do.
	So.
	Yeah, I mean, I don't know the exact numbers.
	There is some data that's related to the dating apps, but I know it's not great for men on dating apps.
	Majority of men.
	Well, it's definitely worse on dating apps, but I would say the sort of experience that men have on dating apps is probably fairly similar to the experience they would otherwise have in the, I guess, quote unquote, normal dating world.
	So outside of dating apps.
	So guys who never get messages on dating apps never get approached in person.
	You're actually probably more likely to get initiated on by a woman on a dating app than you are in person.
	In person.
	Most men never have the experience of ever being hit on, ever being approached.
	And so I don't actually believe, I think the majority of men, I think it's really only the top percent of men would be able to say firmly, I prefer to do the initiating.
	Probably one, because they tend to have a good success rate.
	But I would wager most men, most men, would actually welcome women initiating.
	Because they should be in the middle of the moment.
	I think some would.
	I don't think it's some.
	I think the majority.
	I do think the majority of men, this is, but that's because most men are invisible to most women.
	So, for them to get positive attention, even if they're not the initiator, I'm fairly confident that they would welcome a woman initiating like that.
	It doesn't mean that the woman has to do so in a masculine way or be too forward, but even sort of a more just giving them like a hint of interest, like a feminine sort of initiation.
	I don't think initiation is necessarily has to be this like dominant masculine thing.
	A woman can initiate in a very sort of gentle, feminine way that I don't think would be off-putting to the vast majority of men, even men who have a lot of options, who might prefer, might prefer this chase, really.
	But honestly, I'm not convinced that guys actually like this so-called chase.
	I think they do.
	I think they do.
	I'm not convinced that that's even a thing.
	I think it's just some trope that we've been told that men like to chase and they want a girl, they want to-they don't want someone who's running away from them.
	Disregard, go ahead.
	I don't think they want someone who's actively running away from them, chase, but I think they want a little like back and forth.
	Like, I don't, I don't, I think they want to know that you have options and that they should put some effort towards being, I guess, your best option.
	Okay, I think people like to, I think that people like to act like they don't like the chase, but like it's a psychological thing, like where you're you want something you can't have.
	Like, there's always someone above you, like, oh, they have a Rolex.
	It's the same thing, like, you're chasing something that you can't have.
	That's where it's at.
	It's not like you're like looking, like, oh, I want this person to hate me.
	It's like you are chasing something that you know you can't have.
	Like, you want them, they don't want you back, or you're like trying to win over their affection, like courting.
	Have you heard of that?
	I'm familiar.
	Yeah, familiar?
	Yeah, that's a thing.
	But I guess I'm still confused about the whole.
	So, you want the same opportunities for women, you want women to be equal to men, and I'm assuming that even that that's not even just legally, you also want women to be viewed equally socially, correct?
	I don't see that really happening because like women and men in society usually play different roles in society.
	So, it's just I don't think that they'll be seen socially the same, but opportunity-wise, yeah, I would like for women to have the same opportunities legally for sure.
	You say you don't think women will be equal socially?
	No, I just think they play different roles in our society, but like I think they still can have the same like opportunities.
	I just don't think as a society they're going to see them as the same.
	So, let me ask you a question: Do you think that it's a woman's job to be a stay-at-home wife and get pregnant and raise children?
	I think that's a job.
	Do you think it's a women's job?
	I think physically they're the ones that typically do the childbearing and caring for well, they're the only ones that can.
	I mean, you could have like gay men who raise a child together, but typically speaking here in a heterosexual terms, then yeah, I think that I would prefer for women to stay at home with their children and take care of them instead of sending them off to a daycare.
	Or I've been a nanny before, so I kind of know that side of things.
	But I mean, do you object to the statement that that's a woman's job to do that?
	No, I mean, I think women should have opportunity to have other jobs, but I think that if a woman wants to stay at home and raise their children, they should have equal opportunity to do that along with pursuing whatever other sort of actual business endeavors, like working at a company or starting their own company, things like that.
	They can work.
	Okay.
	And so, okay.
	Yeah, everyone can do it all.
	Well, I guess the angle I'm coming from here is there seems to be a push from feminists to say, like, that isn't really a woman's job.
	I don't know who else would be doing it if it wasn't a woman's job.
	Like, do you know what I'm saying?
	Like, if there's a section of women who that's what they want to do for their job and their work, and that is labor, it's just a different form than the American corporate attempt at labor.
	So I view it as equal.
	If a woman, I think it's crazy that a woman could give birth to a baby and then also go like work a nine-to-five.
	Like doing that at the same time, I don't think is ideal.
	It's extremely exhausting.
	Do you think that there should be a societal pressure to push women away from more traditional gender roles on the woman's part?
	I think we need both types of women, like women who want to raise children and be homesteaders and do all of the things for the childbearing and like raising a family because we do need like family to be important in society.
	But also I know that being a sort of trad wife comes along with a lot of responsibilities and a lot of different things that a lot of women don't want to do and would rather pursue a corporate type of career or just a career for themselves.
	Okay.
	Because I think in society, at least from feminists, there does seem to be a bit of demonization when it comes to women's traditional roles.
	So for example, there's a really big push in society to say, hey, women, go pursue your career.
	Like the 4B movement.
	I'm not sure what that is, but they're saying, hold on.
	They're saying there's a bigger push in society, especially from feminists, of disregard relate, not disregard relationship, but like disregard traditional gender roles, pursue your career, pursue your career, pursue your career, over trying to get married and have children.
	I don't think there's a total, I mean, there's hardcore feminists that's like totally reject family and children, but I definitely think there's a bigger push for women to prioritize career over family.
	I wouldn't object to it as much if it sort of said either path is okay.
	Okay, you're a woman, you want to pursue your career.
	Great, you're a woman and you want to just stay home, let the man be the breadwinner, whatever, raise kids, and that's the extent of your ambitions, which I think are fantastic ambitions.
	If both of them were elevated to the same degree, I think that would be okay.
	But like I said, there's a push to elevate the go be a boss babe, pursue your career, get married in your late 20s, 30s, then have kids.
	So, I guess my confusion here is essentially we're doing this push to say, well, either one is okay, but it's okay for a woman to do all that, be sort of more progressive when it comes to her career ambitions, but men should still pay for first dates, men should still hold to their traditional gender roles.
	I don't know.
	That's just how I feel about it.
	I think that men should be providers.
	Hold on.
	What was the bullshit?
	Some blood drawn, something.
	What?
	She got her blood drawn, apparently.
	She got her blood drawn?
	I don't know.
	I think she's just anxious that she just feels like I come back.
	I should have told her too.
	We should have gotten through her notes.
	Let me see if there's anything even interesting in there.
	maddie go ahead take the seat um uh so yeah guys i don't know if that was a rage quit or was she crying No, no.
	Austin?
	No, she was like a full panic attack.
	12 hours of crying, but she's keeping it to herself, masculine, you know.
	No, she wasn't keeping it to herself.
	No, she's about to cry for the 12 hours, too.
	She's checking into work right now.
	12 hours crying.
	Oh, yeah, the donut.
	What, Austin?
	What was the read?
	Well, so she said she got a blood drawn today for the first time ever, and then she said this whole experience she's kind of freaked out.
	She realized this wasn't really for her.
	So she said, Bro, this has been a very lukewarm.
	Yeah, no, this is casho.
	She can't hang with the Daily Wire crew.
	I'll tell you that.
	This is so cool.
	This has been the most milquetoast fucking show so far.
	I've been like kids' gloves today.
	No, God.
	Was it the like crying?
	And I asked if the guy was gay.
	Was that probably it?
	No.
	She's a feminist as well.
	Oh, my God.
	What a fucking coward.
	Okay.
	All right.
	She was, I pretty, Austin, be honest, she was like fucking crying back there, right?
	She was shaking pretty heavily.
	Literally shaking.
	Let me add that to the title.
	Literally, literally shaking.
	Add that to the title.
	Literally shaking.
	Trigger warning.
	Literally shaking.
	Okay.
	Ridiculous, bro.
	What were her notes?
	Women are getting sick of situationships.
	She says, and may stop dating altogether.
	Oh, and also fun dating things.
	I've been in the past.
	Okay, what else?
	Can I say something off of that?
	Sure.
	I think with the situationships, like I was saying before, when a woman is pursuing, I think that's when the situationship happens because the guy is like, this happened too easily.
	I'm not going to commit now.
	Because what if another baddie comes in and I'm not available anymore?
	I don't, honestly, though, in the history of forever, I don't think a woman withholding sex on its own was ever enough to get commitment from a guy.
	Wait, hold on.
	Let me actually think that through a little more.
	The framing there isn't good because historically, yes, like women who, I mean, women, okay, so hold on.
	When women collectively, when the status quo was, We don't have sex until marriage, and that was the societal expectation.
	Then women were able to leverage commitment in exchange for sex.
	That's out the window now.
	So, in the current dating landscape, where people are having sex prior to marriage, are having premarital sex, are having sex relatively early on into relationships.
	I don't think in today's climate, a woman saying like withholding sex is going to be the determining factor when it comes to being able to lock down most men.
	Like, if a guy wasn't interested in something long-term to begin with, with you, you making him wait for sex, I don't think is going to be what it takes.
	Because I don't think so either.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	Yeah, I don't think so either.
	I think that it's not withholding sex.
	I think it's withholding the label of the relationship and not doing the pursuing.
	Because that's at least what I've noticed.
	When women come on too strong, it kind of makes men take a step back a bit.
	Whereas if you're letting the man pursue you and kind of letting him be like a man, then I think it works out better.
	Yeah.
	Sorry, one sec.
	I'm dealing with some bullshit behind the scenes here.
	Where were we?
	We're going around the table on something, right?
	Situationships.
	The feminists, the feminists.
	We stopped at me and then they're not.
	Long guns.
	Don't do it anymore.
	All right, go ahead, Morgan.
	Go ahead.
	not today like what it is right now no no I'm not a feminist Okay.
	I feel like you guys were going around with something else.
	I just can't think of it.
	Yeah, I know.
	Same.
	Was it the video?
	We already did that, I think.
	Let's see.
	Oh, man.
	It's too bad she didn't stay for Andrew.
	That would have been.
	For which?
	I don't think she could have handled Andrew.
	Can't hang.
	Somebody pointed out that she was laughing right before she left.
	Or right before you said, like, state your own opinion.
	Like, she laughed, then you said, state your own opinion, then that's when she got up.
	State your own opinion?
	Because she was like, oh, I remember.
	She was in my motion.
	And then you were like, you were like, oh, no, no, you better have your own opinion.
	Well, no, you just said to me, wait, that's what I'm saying.
	Yeah.
	That was the breaking point.
	That's from what I saw her.
	That was the breaking point when I was.
	She can't state her own opinion.
	When I was just like, oh, hey, just make sure you.
	I think she just took it the wrong way.
	She's probably been told she's a yes mate.
	That's why she answered like that.
	Wait, what?
	No, I'm just going to correct.
	She's not going to be a good person.
	Her level of snowflakeness was me just saying, instead of like just saying, oh, whatever she said was just put it in your own.
	That was.
	That was a lot of brain power.
	She's real for that, you know.
	It probably can't be.
	This is why the wage gap exists, by the way.
	I'm just kidding.
	That's anti-feminism, her leaving.
	This is.
	She's not strong enough to be on the podcast.
	I think that's a good idea.
	That's what she was.
	I'm 100% not a feminist.
	I need to back out now because I'm a woman.
	She's not a feminist because she can't handle the word.
	Did we even get to the feminist question?
	I don't.
	I think we did.
	Oh, we did.
	That's what she said.
	Second my motion.
	Because I said I'm not a feminist.
	No, why?
	As a strong woman, she decided to leave.
	That was who pays.
	It was who pays.
	She left.
	Then we went around with the feminist thing.
	You asked, and then she got up right after you asked, I think.
	Oh, shit.
	Oh, did she?
	Wait, chat.
	Did she answer to the feminist question?
	She did.
	I was right here.
	Okay, I believe you.
	Second moment.
	She sucked my motion.
	That's the funniest part.
	It was not.
	You couldn't just say, yes, I think hashtag can't hit.
	Literally shaking.
	Literally shaking.
	Anyways, we'll move on.
	Let's do some more Reacts, guys.
	Let's do some more Reacts.
	Can you pull up the next thing, Nick?
	Yes.
	She didn't even offer.
	You said, please split the bill.
	No, no, I asked politely.
	I said, do you want to split the bill?
	And she said, okay.
	Like, she said, okay.
	She just agreed to be nice.
	You should always treat the girl if you're a guy and pay for the full day.
	What were you thinking?
	Absolutely.
	I don't see what the big deal is here.
	She works a great job.
	She has money.
	It doesn't matter if her dad's a billionaire.
	And she's the prince of Italy.
	You pay the whole bill if it's a girl.
	Well, I didn't.
	And you were doing a great job, too.
	So what do you say?
	She's going to be like, he made me drive all the way to the restaurant and he made me split the bill.
	No, and then she's going to be like, and then her friends are going to be like, oh, I think he's cute.
	Should I go out with him?
	And she'll be like, oh, no, he's a bill splitter.
	Yeah.
	Do you want to get on as a bill splitter?
	So I'll let her.
	My daughter date a bill splitter.
	I wouldn't let my daughter date a bill splitter in there.
	All right.
	Kind of related to the previous one.
	Honestly, I think what makes the most sense.
	Hold on.
	I got to do the disclaimer first.
	Okay, as a guy, if you want the most success, you should pay for the bill.
	But what I think is fair, what I think is fair, and what should be during the current dating climate, I think y'all should pay for your food.
	The guy pays for his.
	You pay for your drinks, he pays for his.
	Now, low asterisks here for the men.
	You should pay if you want the most success when it comes to your dating.
	But if we're talking about like what ought to be, yeah, you guys should pay for your own shit.
	That's it.
	Then there's just no success in anything.
	You just want to succeed.
	If she likes you, honestly, if the girl likes you enough, she'll be cool with it.
	It's I offer.
	I'm like, do you want me to pay half?
	And if they say yes, then I'm like, oh, honestly, actually, honestly, the test is why girls are that far.
	Honestly, though, here's the thing: if the girl really likes you, which is what you want as a guy, she won't care.
	It's the first date.
	I don't think she'll care.
	Even if she does really like you, she's going to take it as like, oh, he doesn't really like me, so I should just stop right there.
	Yeah, but she'll know that you really like her when you're like, let's meet up again and you're also having sex.
	When I'm on interest, you pay.
	Is she stitmatty?
	Is she still going to be questioning?
	Does he like me while he's like apparently not enough to pay for it?
	I would say it's like a half-off date.
	Like, it's he obviously is going to want to go out with me again because it's like half off.
	It's discounted.
	Yeah, no.
	I'm a discounted date.
	Yeah, wouldn't the guy want to go on a date more because he gets to save?
	So then I would.
	Doesn't the girl win?
	Like, he likes you more than a year.
	I think he values you less than.
	Nah.
	Not really.
	Oh, my goodness.
	I think so.
	I think the guy should.
	Sorry, what do you think?
	Well, the last guy I dated today was crying a lot and not masculine.
	I never had to even offer.
	He just would do it, and I really liked that.
	And then it made me come into my feminine.
	And I was like, I was never the type to be like, I want to cook for a guy.
	And I never got to the point of it, but I was like, I would love to make him breakfast because he buys me food.
	And it just comes to a place where he goes and his masculine, you go and you're feminine, and you just want to take care of each other.
	And that's how I think it's healthy.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I saw this in the chat.
	Normally, I don't read much of the normal chat.
	Lauren S says, fail, Brian.
	He makes a relationship a business.
	It's sad.
	Well, hold on.
	Is it men that make a relationship a business or is it women?
	Because y'all are the ones.
	If you object to the statement, oh, we should just pay for our own thing.
	Is it the man who has the standard or is it the woman who has the standard and the expectation that men should pay?
	I have a good thing that goes with this.
	My friend's friend, super successful, like millionaires, my age, like 20.
	He is a friend.
	He has autism.
	So he calculates how much he spends on a girl.
	And if he spends more than a prostitute cost, he'll break up with her.
	Which is crazy.
	Okay, that's interesting.
	Which I'm saying, like, he makes it a business.
	Yeah.
	But you know what, though?
	I'm actually prepared to.
	I mean, Lauren's not here, so I can't argue with her.
	Send us a DM.
	We'll get you on the panel.
	If you can be here within 30 minutes, we'll put you on the panel because the fucking snowflake left.
	So I can just, I'm pretty, I'll just make the argument that women view it as a business.
	Because women initiate divorces.
	Women are more likely to seek child support.
	Whereas men, we had a woman on the panel on Sunday where she was out earning the guy for a period of time, and the guy could have gone after child support, but the guy just didn't.
	So even in instances, for example, where there could be a child support dispute and the guy could actually receive child support from the woman, men are far less likely to seek child support when it's like split custody, shared custody.
	And then, secondly, when it comes to divorce, also same with divorce.
	Men are much more likely, whoever is initiating the divorce, if the woman's the breadwinner, men are much less likely to be as aggressive when it comes to getting equitable distribution of what's been made during the relationship, anything, any alimony.
	Men are much more likely to forego seeking alimony and distribution.
	They might just kind of go, like, okay, let's just get divorced.
	Some men do, of course, but men are less likely to do it.
	And in any case, women are 80%, women initiate 80% of divorces, and they are far more likely to go after a man financially in the event of a divorce than the reverse.
	So, Lauren, I say to you, who is it really who sees relationships as business, men or women?
	The chat can be free to answer.
	Let's see what else we have.
	Be gone, Lauren.
	Just kidding.
	Come on, you can come on the show and we can debate it if you want.
	Let's see what we have to get into here.
	Let's do one more react and then I'll get into some of the pre-show notes.
	Oh, this is kind of this might be related to what we were talking about.
	I think I destroyed our relationship trying to compliment my boyfriend.
	My boyfriend and I are both 28 years old and together for 2.5 years.
	Yesterday night, we were drinking, and one thing led to another here at Mountie.
	Can you read it?
	And I tried to compliment him by saying he's not someone who I would hook up or be a friend with benefits with, but marry.
	I thought everything was fine, but he seemed extremely distraught after that.
	I realized how he understood it and tried to clarify it, but he's still the same this morning.
	He told me he needs space to think for a while and left the house.
	All my friends tell me I messed it up, and guys tell me it's not a compliment, and most men will understand it differently.
	I think I destroyed our relationship, and I am panicking right now.
	Okay, keep it up for just a sec.
	Both 28, 2.5 years.
	Oh, wait, hold on.
	We already did this one.
	Oh, my bad.
	Well, I guess we'll just get the reaction then.
	I meant to do a different one.
	My bad, but we'll react to it.
	So, your reaction to that?
	Okay, so they've been together two and a half years, and she said she wouldn't be a hookup or friends with benefits, but she would marry.
	I felt that way about a guy in the past, and I feel like he would also be kind of hurt by it because I feel like for someone to say that, that means that maybe they're not like that, I guess, like sexually attracted to them or find them attractive enough to do a friends with benefits or one-night stand.
	But I would take it if I were the guy as a compliment because it's like marriage is usually what the long-term goal is for dating relationships.
	Not always, but I would take it as a compliment if I were the guy.
	Were you going to give me okay?
	Honestly, I think that she didn't have a wrong point because at the end of the day, there's certain types of things you want from people.
	And she let him know that she wanted the most from him.
	So, I really don't think it was a problem.
	I think she just worded it very wrongly.
	I think what she was trying to deliver, she kind of, yeah, it was just worded wrong.
	But I mean, I like Christian guys that want to get married, so if you didn't like that, I'd be like, red flag.
	I feel like she worded it wrong too, but at the same time, I think it depends on the person.
	So, if I know, like, if I was in his shoes and I knew that my girlfriend of two and a half years was that type of chick beforehand to be like constant F-buddies, all these things.
	And so, if she said that to me and I knew that from beforehand, I wouldn't take it offensively.
	I'd say, okay, she actually wanted to commit to me.
	I'm attractive.
	It doesn't lean onto that attraction issue.
	But if she's somebody who's like any other.
	Lazing Dunn is donated $200.
	29-year male.
	I work 40 plus hours, cook clean, grocery shop and maintain house W slash half acre yard weekend.
	I clean and maintain my grandma house W slash three plus acre property.
	I want low body count submissive woman Okay, I worked 40 hours.
	Are you like asking if any of the girls would date?
	You think a submissive woman would cook and clean, though?
	Wouldn't that wouldn't like a submissive?
	Wouldn't a submissive girl like?
	Wouldn't that include, you know, cooking and cleaning?
	I suppose?
	Yeah, I feel like that goes along with it.
	Like what?
	What is submissive?
	Like during sex she's asking, she's like obedient to whatever he says and decides.
	I see no, pull up the thing one more time.
	I just wanted to take a look at it.
	Yeah, so we were drinking.
	Not someone I would hook up with.
	I think essentially like the male perspective here is like this is the second, third, fourth, fifth pick for her.
	Like you're not attractive enough that I because she's basically admitting I have fucked guys really quickly.
	I have had friends with benefits.
	I have hooked up super quick.
	I wouldn't have done it with you because you're not attractive enough.
	You're the safe bet.
	You're the relationship safe option.
	After I've had my fun in my college days, in my early 20s, fucked a bunch of dudes, etc., etc., etc.
	Now we're in a cozy, comfortable relationship.
	And I still fantasize about those like really exciting, hot sexual experiences I had with men in my youth.
	But you're here to be a good provider.
	You're here to be safe.
	That's what you are.
	I've done that with the girl before.
	Okay.
	I've done that.
	I'm like, but I didn't say that because I feel like that's disrespectful and also manipulative in the sense of like, oh, one day, one day, one day, let's just keep fucking.
	I've been like, in my head, I've been like, okay, I like you, but I want you to mature a little bit.
	Like, I want you to mature, but I could see myself being with somebody like you.
	You believe in this.
	You have the same morals.
	You respect my humor.
	That's like not all.
	Because a lot of girls that date girls are also like super PC and feminist and all that, which I'm not.
	So I'm like, you get my humor, but I don't want to date you now.
	You're not mature enough.
	Okay.
	So I see that.
	I agree, but I don't think that's what she was trying to say.
	Like, I don't think she was trying to say, I'm not attracted to you and I don't want to have sex with you.
	Should I DM that girl?
	So why did you actually leave?
	Yeah, I follow up with her and make sure she's like okay.
	She's fine.
	I get what she means because I feel kind of weird right now too.
	But I had caffeine.
	So maybe.
	The lights.
	I don't know.
	Maybe it's the light.
	What lights?
	There's no lights.
	I think it's just the heat, but I don't know.
	The natural sunlight.
	Can't handle the natural sunlight.
	She's going back to the dark room of her bedroom.
	Her kid.
	Bed rot.
	What drama?
	What do you mean?
	From last show.
	Yeah, maybe at the end of the video.
	It's also funny.
	We had her.
	She was going to come with her friend initially.
	Bro, guys, so I often rarely will reveal the details of people who cancel.
	Occasionally I will.
	But you got to realize every time we have a panel, as many girls are on the panel, that many girls flaked.
	So if we have, like, the past three shows, we had 10 flakes every single show.
	And like the excuses, I don't share it most of the time.
	The excuses are like the pretty much the biggest amount of bullshit ever.
	People in general are just super unreliable.
	So I mean, props to all of you who actually made it and showed up and stuff.
	But I'm trying to actually find, oh, her friend.
	So her friend messages, they were going to come together.
	She messaged like three weeks ago, interested in coming on, blah, And then she says, I'm not in, this is yesterday at 5 p.m.
	I'm not in a good headspace right now.
	Sorry.
	I think people are going to be able to do it.
	I so badly want to.
	The wage gap doesn't exist, but I so badly want to actually argue that it's 100% justified.
	I don't know if that, it's so fucking justified.
	I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
	I'm not sorry, but I think people think they can hang and then like when like they're like, oh, it'll be a funny idea.
	And then when it actually comes, they're like, wait, that was kind of like a drunken or stupid decision I made to be on a podcast.
	Does that make do you get what I mean?
	Like in the moment, like you're laughing with your friends, you're like, oh, I'm going to DM him.
	I'm going to like get on this.
	And then like, and then the time comes and you're like, wait, I've never been on camera.
	I can't do this.
	Because I feel that a bit on the drive.
	You're a little bit more.
	Yeah, I mean, when it comes to the entertainment industry, it's kind of normal.
	Like, people get cold feet.
	They get nervous and shit.
	But it's not fair to cancel, then don't do it.
	Based.
	Maybe it's honestly talk.
	Like, don't, like, why waste, you're wasting your time, then there's less girls on here.
	It's just, it's not cool.
	Oh, I mean, honestly, the people kind of ask about like, oh man, it must be so stressful doing the show.
	Actually, doing the show isn't stressful.
	It's like the talent coordination that's the most stressful thing.
	Like dealing with people, oh, got to cancel last minute.
	No shows.
	We had one girl today who no-showed who we had her booked like months out.
	And people just don't even have the courtesy to just be like, even if it, I mean, obviously we want as much advanced notice as possible, but like, hey, can't make it.
	Don't want to come.
	You can even say the podcast sucks.
	Don't care.
	Just be like, fuck this podcast.
	I'm not coming.
	It's fucking toxic.
	Whatever.
	Don't care.
	I'd rather somebody just say like, hey, I'm not coming.
	But most people have like zero.
	Like the biggest red pill is probably like trying to book 20 girls every single week to like be here certain time on time.
	Biggest red pill there is probably.
	Anyways, I'm being fucking tilted, but.
	No, it's valid.
	Yeah.
	And anyways, sorry.
	Moving on.
	Moving on.
	Let's see.
	We have.
	Going to some of your notes here.
	You said you dated a girl long distance and you had to travel every two weeks to see them.
	You've been cheated on.
	Me and my ex-boyfriend of five years had a toxic drug-filled relationship.
	We already kind of talked about that.
	That one, yeah.
	Well, we dated last summer and then she was going to college.
	So we went on a road trip to drop her off in Boston, which was like an eight-day road trip.
	It was actually, we were on the road trip now last year.
	And then I was in school at the time.
	So I would just ditch class, tell no one, and fly to Boston for like a week.
	Can you scoop in and speak closely?
	Yeah.
	So it was, it was that.
	It was.
	It was the year one.
	It was the one where we broke up like nine months ago.
	Got it.
	You said you wanted to talk on hookup culture.
	That was in your notes.
	I don't remember what I was going with that, but I guess, yeah, I mean, I think hooking up young, I think hooking up young is fine.
	You know, I actually watch some of the Daily Wire people.
	And I think I disagree with.
	I think hookup culture, you find out what you want in a relationship, like what you like.
	I think sex is a big part of a relationship.
	I respect people that wait, but when I hook up with people, I'm like, I feel that connect.
	I feel like I feel connected to that person more than just like talking sometimes.
	Because if I hook up with someone, usually I'm like, oh my God, I really like this person.
	Like we can laugh during sex.
	Does that make sense?
	Because I think hookup culture of just like, I want to hook up with you just to like feel good.
	I want to feel connected to that person when I hook up with someone.
	And if I don't feel that, I'm not going to hit you back up.
	Well, I don't disagree with the part where you said sex is important in a relationship.
	I don't disagree with you there.
	I would say, though, my disagreement when it comes to hookup culture, I think.
	So when I think of hookup culture, I think people who are just having casual sex without the intention of pursuing something long-term with a given individual.
	I forgot who said it, but someone said they want to date for marriage.
	Like, I won't get in a relationship unless it's for marriage.
	That's how I feel.
	I want to, like, what's the point of dating?
	But, so, hooking up to me, I feel comfortable in my sexuality and things to be able to hook up with people to discover what I want.
	Like, who knows if I would date men and women if I didn't hook up with either of them.
	I wouldn't know if I liked it or not.
	And then you get in the position where, you know, a Christian guy, I'm not saying him, gets in a relationship with a woman they marry, he realizes he's gay because that's happened before.
	And I feel like sex, you feel like what you want.
	You know what you want.
	You know, you feel that connection.
	If you vibe during sex, I feel like you could vibe outside of sex.
	I don't know if that made sense, but.
	Wait, when you get married, do you want to get married to a man or a woman?
	Honestly, I've thought about that a lot, and I'm not sure.
	In a relationship with women, I'm more of the masculine one, but with a guy, I want the complete opposite.
	Like, like, wife me kind of thing.
	So, when you date women, you're dominant, but when you're with a guy, you want to be more submissive.
	Correct.
	Okay.
	And do you want kids?
	Yeah.
	Do you want your own kids?
	I do want my own kids.
	Okay.
	Is that a factor into?
	Rather than fostering, you mean?
	Like, that type of thing, adopting.
	Adopting.
	Yeah, no, I want my own kids.
	Okay.
	But I mean, does that have any impact on who you want to get married to then?
	I mean, you.
	Actually, jokingly, when I was dating my ex-girlfriend, we met this guy that's so attractive.
	He's like tall.
	His name was Jack.
	We were like, can you be my sperm donor?
	And he said, hit me up one day and I'll be your sperm donor.
	He's a drug addict, but he would, it was a year ago.
	It was a year ago, but he was sober.
	But he was like an ex-drug addict.
	So the jeans on that one and me would not be cute.
	But I need a tall guy because I'm short.
	You need to balance out the shortness?
	Yes, literally.
	My aunt did that.
	What's more important, them being tall or them not being a former drug addict?
	A lot of people I know are former drug addicts because I'm sober.
	Does that make like a lot of my friends are drug addicts because I'm an ex-drug addict?
	Sure.
	I was in sober living for a year with like 30-year-olds.
	You know, that's like kind of my friend group.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	I kind of want to do.
	Who here has tattoos?
	Show of hands.
	Show of hands.
	I think we need to do a tattoo check.
	Tattoo check.
	Chat, tattoo check.
	Like, obviously, if you got like one on your hoo-ha, we can't see that.
	But like, arms, back, you got one on your belly here.
	It's a mermaid.
	Mermaid.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Cool.
	And then what about the arms?
	The arms.
	This is my 13-year-old SoundCloud name.
	It was my first tattoo.
	What is it?
	It says low cap.
	It's my Instagram tag.
	That's your SoundCloud?
	It's my, I kept it.
	It was when I was 13.
	Did you rap?
	Are you a rapper?
	No, I don't rap.
	I make more punk music now because I write music still, but I kept the name because I had to.
	It was like 13, you know.
	Yeah.
	This is, it says homesick.
	My parents say it says home bitch and make fun of me all the time for it.
	And then the rest were just, this is for Aspen, Colorado, because my grandma has a house up there and we go every year.
	This one says, relieve me of the bondage yourself, and it's a girl tied up in herself.
	Star David.
	What's the bondage one?
	It says, relieve me of the bondage of self, and it's a girl tied up.
	Meaning, like, meaning like my problems are within myself, like, relieve me from it.
	Like, I can't keep holding myself back.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I do have tattoos, but they're not in places to show.
	You can show.
	What about you?
	What's this one say?
	Okay, so you know, I got the a real brat because I am a real brat.
	Yeah, you haven't been Bratty so far.
	No, because y'all ain't, I'm waiting on Andrew.
	Like, y'all are in for me.
	All right.
	Once Andrew comes, it's going to come out.
	And then I have, this one's really important to me.
	It's like, honestly, everyone that does my tattoos are people who are becoming a tattoo artist.
	I like people like that because they're doing it for something.
	It means something to them.
	So a lot of my tattoos look bad, but this one says, work hard.
	It tells me to work hard, but then other people see hard work.
	So it's like a little, yeah.
	And then my first tattoo was this little stick and poke.
	It's so bad.
	It says, just love me.
	My friend's mom found us drunk in her bed, like literally like just with ink and like markers and pens.
	I remember that.
	It was terrible.
	Just stabbing yourself with the needle trying to get the ink in.
	Yes.
	I got an infection because it was like straight out of a ballpoint pen.
	Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
	We got in so much trouble.
	I don't know if that's a normal thing because people are giving looks.
	Yeah, but I mean, it doesn't hurt.
	What about you?
	Any tattoos?
	I have a rose.
	And Gypsy.
	Kind of went away.
	Gypsy Rose?
	Yes.
	Gypsy Rose.
	Okay.
	And then, don't you have a Sternum tattoo?
	I have other tattoos, but I don't really like.
	You don't have to show it.
	I'm just, what is it?
	What does the Sternum tattoo say?
	I don't want to say.
	What's on your Instagram?
	I saw it on your Instagram.
	It says daddy.
	I just don't want my dad.
	I feel bad.
	You don't want what?
	I don't know.
	I don't like to talk about it because my dad.
	I was dumb at 18.
	I haven't gotten a tattoo since I was 19.
	But it's still on your Instagram.
	Yeah.
	It's like one of your most recent ones.
	You might see this because this is like red line pipeline or whatever it's called.
	Red line.
	Red pill.
	Red line pipeline.
	I don't think it's red pill.
	He doesn't look at my Instagram, but he watches like red pipeline stuff.
	Okay.
	What?
	She's funny.
	Oh, yeah.
	She was like, oh, like he just watches red pipeline.
	Yo, W, her dad's probably watching right now.
	I told my parents.
	Yeah, I'm not sure.
	Are you full Filipino?
	I'm half.
	Half Filipino, half what?
	Half Filipino, half Italian, Native American, or quarter.
	On your dad's side.
	My dad's Italian, Native American.
	Okay.
	W, is he watching?
	Can you text him, tell him to tune in?
	He's not, but he watches YouTube a lot.
	He's probably subscribed.
	Oh, no.
	Does he know about the tattoo?
	He's probably like...
	No.
	He's probably one of our major TTSers, like Lol Paladins or some shit.
	Is your dad grid one?
	Is he what?
	Grid one motorsports.
	Is that your dad?
	No, definitely not.
	You don't know grid one?
	No, I don't.
	My parents sent me a long paragraph before this and said, just so you know, anything you put on the internet's there forever.
	Don't say anything.
	And I go, mom.
	Oh, man.
	I go, mom, look at me.
	I go, look at my track history.
	I told her that.
	And my brother calls me too.
	He goes, I'm going to be watching.
	Shout out my brother.
	Yeah.
	And then the first thing you say was, yeah, I went to drug rehab when I was 14.
	It's public information.
	It's good.
	It is?
	Is it like on your TikTok or something?
	No.
	I think just I tell everybody.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	No, I mean, I appreciate when people come on and they're like super open about stuff.
	So open.
	Bro, guys, you know, look, it's getting hard, boys.
	It's getting hard.
	We might have to, who knows how long the show enjoy it?
	Well, it'll last, boys.
	And then who knows?
	Maybe we have to go down to only one show a week, and then maybe we'll eventually have to take it to the streets because it's like progressively harder and harder to do the whole talent coordination shit.
	So tats, tattoos.
	I have a tattoo, but it's on my finger.
	It's just for my you don't have like the lip one?
	No, no, sorry.
	Not shave.
	No, it's not for me.
	I don't want to get a tattoo.
	It was for my dog that passed away.
	Yeah.
	R.I.P. R.I.P. Max.
	R.I.P. Max.
	What does it say?
	That was my dog.
	It's just his initial.
	It's an M.
	Oh, cute man.
	Any tats, Morgan?
	No tats.
	Okay, wow.
	Look at that.
	No tattoos.
	All right.
	I have a lot more tattoos, but I can't show them.
	You know.
	I have about 30.
	Did you show that one?
	Wait, do you have one like right above your?
	Yeah, I got it.
	What one's that?
	Is it like a scorpion or some shit?
	No.
	No.
	Is it YOLO?
	Safety pins.
	Safety pins?
	Oh, like on the stomach dimples or whatever.
	You had an edgy phase, huh?
	Yeah.
	Okay, I see it.
	I'm really crazy on the inside.
	One time I was like about to hook up with a girl, but like right above her vagina, it said, I think it said YOLO.
	Oh, no.
	And then I was like, I can't do this, bro.
	You gotta hit it and read YOLO.
	No, I was just like, I was making some judgments.
	I'm like, I had to rethink.
	I'll just get the neon sign that says open on it.
	I was like, oh, maybe we can watch Netflix instead.
	Netflix and not chill.
	I never saw her again.
	Oh, you.
	You should have hit it, YOLO.
	No, bro.
	I have dick discipline to a degree.
	Even if the opportunity is there, if there's something like that, tell her you have a blindfold kink and just don't look at it.
	A blindfold?
	Like, put a blindfold.
	That doesn't change the fact that she has it.
	Yeah, but you don't know, like, in your head, you just like picture Megan Fox.
	No, it's not.
	It wouldn't be about looking at it while.
	It's just the fact that it's there.
	It's probably dirty anyway, huh?
	What is the her vagina?
	If you have a tattoo that says YOLO on your vagina, it doesn't necessarily mean that the vagina's dirty.
	Probably is, though.
	I disagree.
	What's the likelihood of like that means it's dirty?
	Was it YOLO or was it like, fuck, what was it?
	I don't know if it was YOLO.
	How do you go from about to have sex and then you're just like, yeah, like, how did you pick that up?
	How does it, as a guy?
	Like, what do you mean?
	As a girl, like, I would have just left immediately.
	Like, how do you go from?
	Like, if you're a bad person.
	You're about to have sex and the guy's like, let's just watch Netflix.
	Oh, I'm smoother than that.
	I was just like, oh, hold on, let's take a, I gotta go use the bathroom really quick.
	And then you just, like, don't reinitiate.
	And then you're like, oh, let's just kick it, you know?
	And then you never talk to her again.
	Hold on, sorry.
	Wait.
	I have a noise for this.
	One sec.
	Wait, where is it?
	Damn, sorry, guys.
	Either they won't sleep with you.
	Oh, wow.
	And then there's really no need to ever call them again.
	Or they do sleep with you.
	And then there's really no need to ever call them again.
	That wasn't really what happened.
	So you did sleep with her?
	No, I didn't sleep with her.
	Oh, no.
	I just, I've never played that noise before.
	And I thought it was somewhat.
	It went along a little bit.
	A little bit.
	A little bit.
	Not 100%.
	I feel like you found it, thought it was really good, and then you were like, I gotta use this.
	I've had that in my soundboard for two years.
	This is the first time I've ever fucking pressed it.
	The execution was not good, I'll tell you that.
	It was a bit slow.
	I have like 50 buttons on here I've never pressed.
	And then another 50, I've pressed like one time.
	Let's hear one more.
	Okay, I'll find one that I've like never done before.
	Let's see.
	Just so you can use it.
	Oh, here's two.
	How about this?
	When does fucking somebody else mean that I'm not faithful to you?
	What context?
	Hold on.
	And then.
	I only did it with her because I'm in love with you.
	What?
	Toxicast.
	Where are you finding these?
	So those two are from one of my favorite movies.
	It's very, it's dark.
	It's called The Rules of Attraction, based on the Brett Easton Ellis novel of the same name.
	You might know him from, well, he's the writer of American Psycho.
	Maybe you know the movie.
	I just watched that.
	American Psycho.
	So he wrote the book, which the movie's based on with Patrick Bateman.
	But the Rules of Attraction is set in the same universe as American Psycho.
	And I actually think the Rules of Attraction, in some ways, it's not, it's a darker.
	I think it's actually darker than American Psycho.
	And I think it's a better film.
	Directed by Roger Avery, who I might, I think he lives sort of in the area.
	I've been trying to get him.
	We might try to get him on the show for like a one-on-one interview.
	Because this is one of my favorite movies.
	So Dark Comedy.
	Recommend it.
	There's a young Jessica Beale.
	Who are some of the who's the guy from Dawson's Creek?
	Anybody?
	I feel like you guys are too young to know about that.
	James Vanderbeek.
	Thank you.
	James Vanderbeek, young Jessica Beale, Kip Pardew, that guy from American Pie.
	Which one?
	Sorry.
	Before I started doing this shit, I studied films, so I'm like a film.
	Anyways, whatever.
	Now I do a dating podcast.
	How my life has gone.
	Could have been a director.
	No, I'm doing this shit.
	No, I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	Okay.
	Where were we?
	Goals.
	Goals?
	No.
	No, you.
	Like, your pod.
	Wait, what?
	That's not what we were talking about.
	No, no, no.
	I was saying it had Sue's.
	I was responding to you.
	I said goals.
	You go, I was doing film and now I'm doing this.
	And I said goals.
	Andrew's ready, I think.
	Apparently.
	People in the chat tell me.
	People have been telling me when did he send a message?
	Excuse me.
	I don't know.
	Is he ready?
	Maybe not.
	Maybe they're trolling.
	Okay, sweet.
	All right.
	Oh, hold on.
	Hide that for a bit.
	While we're doing that, before you should do Twitch.
	Can you do Twitch really quick?
	Or do you need.
	Okay.
	Oh, look at this guy.
	Oh, look at his hair.
	Look at that.
	Copied my hairstyle.
	Andrew, can you hear us?
	Yeah, I can hear you find me.
	Yo, what's up, man?
	What's up?
	How are you guys doing tonight?
	Doing good.
	How'd the debate go?
	Yeah.
	It was an absolute disaster, but.
	Oh, shit.
	Yeah, just a disaster.
	But ultimately, I mean, it's all good.
	I don't even know what the topic.
	It was on.
	Well, I can't even.
	I don't even want to get into the topic.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That's fine.
	That's fine.
	That's how bad it is.
	When you say it was bad, did you lose?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	No, the opposite.
	I mean, I handily won.
	It's just that's not what made it bad.
	Oh, okay.
	Fair enough.
	It's a whole ordeal.
	It was a whole ordeal.
	Welcome, Andrew.
	Welcome, welcome.
	So, we had a literally shaking quit for the first time ever on the show.
	And it was honestly, oh, did he freeze?
	Is that on?
	Is that a lagging pretty hard in my end?
	Your end?
	Yeah, I think it's your end.
	And honestly, it was pretty milquetoast.
	It was pretty tame.
	So, unfortunate, nevertheless.
	Really quick, Nick, can we do Twitch?
	Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow on the Prime Sub if you have one.
	Ariana Grande looks better than ever.
	Okay.
	Subscribe for three months.
	Yo, guys, drop us a Prime sub.
	It's been 36 minutes since we last had a Prime.
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	And what else?
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	What the?
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	Sorry, guys.
	Andrew's lagging a little bit there.
	We're going to get him going here in just a sec.
	Let's see.
	Let's get into Shannon's notes.
	Shannon.
	Yeah, this is.
	I'm sorry, Brian.
	I don't mean to cut in, but this is really lagging, really hard on.
	Do you want to check your computer or restart the call?
	Yeah, well, we'll just restart the call.
	You guys just discount.
	Go ahead, Nick.
	So, Shannon, you said that you, plus size, you only date six to seven figure earning men, and you'd love to discuss your experiences.
	You think yours are very unique.
	So, you said only date six to seven figure earning men.
	They don't have to be earning seven figures or anything like that, but I do want a man who has a comfortable lifestyle that they're going to be providing.
	Okay.
	But so, in your pre-show notes, and I know you might have sent these in a while ago, you did say you only date six to seven-figure earning men.
	I try to date men who are around that range.
	And I'm not going to date a guy who doesn't have any money or any future.
	But I'm currently dating someone who I'm pretty sure they don't make six figures, but I know they have a comfortable lifestyle, hopefully, set up for the two of us.
	Doesn't that oppose the feminine thing, though?
	No, I think that in feminism, like women should have choices.
	But what if he said that?
	Like, that you have to make a certain amount?
	I'm just curious.
	I don't think he feels that way.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Because in your pre-show notes, you said you only date six to seven-figure earning men.
	I think that was like a couple months ago when I sent that.
	But it's true.
	I do try to date men who have nice lifestyles to provide.
	Does that not make me a feminist?
	Or it just makes me like smart.
	You said that, I'm trying to remember exactly how you framed it.
	You said that because I was on Gavin's podcast and talking about like dating high-earning men.
	You said that feminism is about women having choices.
	Yeah.
	What about men having choices?
	Or do men not get a choice?
	They can choose to date a woman who is going to be a provider.
	Can they, though?
	You know, it depends on their own, I guess, situation with dating, right?
	Like, I've gotten comments from people online saying that my, what I'm asking for is, like, to, I guess, Like they say that I have to reach a certain level to get to that certain level of success for a man.
	And I think it's kind of true for men as well.
	Like if like it's let's say if I were to lose weight and like be a quote-unquote 10, then I would be able to get more of a guy who's like a higher provider, if that makes sense.
	So I think men have to sometimes do the same.
	Like maybe if they're not somewhere in regards to their looks or social skills, maybe they would get a higher paying job to accommodate that or something along those lines.
	Maybe they don't make that much, but they're really, really attractive.
	And then they have to kind of work their way up to making a certain amount of money if they want to get a certain amount, or if they want to get a certain type of woman.
	Okay.
	I just think it goes both ways.
	I think it's the same thing of if you want, like, people say it's wrong for men to say, I want this type of body or I want this kind of girl.
	Like, I want her to be like a virgin.
	I want this or that.
	And that's like wrong.
	But then, you know, women could be like, oh, I want this guy to make this much money and this and that.
	I think it's the same thing.
	Like, if a girl says, you have to make this amount of money and the guy says, well, I want the girl to look like this or have this quality about her.
	Like, that's where the feminist movement movement kind of gets screwed up.
	Yeah, it's the same thing.
	If like a girl's like, I want a guy with a big dick, then a guy could say, well, I want a girl that's skinny and has a fat ass.
	That's true.
	I think.
	Or if a girl says she wants a guy with a big dick, a guy can say, I want a girl with a big labia.
	That too, whatever the guy wants.
	Everyone has choices.
	I only date women who have large labias, by the way.
	Is that the reason why YOLO didn't work out?
	My what?
	Why?
	Oh, the yellow girl?
	It didn't work out.
	Nah, it was the yellow.
	It was medium-sized, huh?
	It was a MIDI.
	And you have that choice to like your type.
	I feel like everyone has standards.
	Write out a list of what you want qualities in somebody.
	I have that.
	And I do too.
	Thrive for that.
	Thrive.
	I thrive for the big labia all day, every day.
	Except just write that.
	Manifest that in your head, right?
	Big labia, big labia.
	I want that.
	I need that.
	You don't want that.
	That's manifesting.
	In the morning.
	I don't want a big labia.
	I have a big labia.
	That's what you got to say.
	I have a food.
	No, I mean, like, I don't want a girl with a big labia.
	I have the girl.
	She's going to text me right now.
	Oh, like the secret?
	Like, manifest.
	You got to manifest that shit like you already have it.
	You got to be so delusional that it comes true.
	Big labia energy.
	Yeah.
	Big labia energy.
	Big labia energy.
	I love this.
	100%.
	Yeah, I will only, only date.
	They got the surgery too.
	Can they extend it?
	Andrew is also, you know, look, I know we're joking.
	I know we're joking around here a little bit, but I'm serious.
	But I'm joking.
	But I'm serious.
	I have a non-profit organization.
	And this is actually, this is the serious thing.
	Andrew's on the board of directors.
	We're going 501c3 any day now.
	Non-profit.
	We're going to start fundraising.
	There it is.
	Big labia matter, BLM.
	Tax write-off.
	Tax write-off.
	Start the non-profit.
	That's how you do it.
	You use B-L-M.
	What, what?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it stands for Big Labia Matter.
	What?
	I'm just curious, what's the problem there?
	Yo.
	Is there something wrong with Big Labia Matter?
	What's your objection?
	Nah, it just caught me off guard.
	You know, Black Lives Matter, so I was automatically thinking.
	Like, hold on.
	Wait a minute.
	Nah.
	Oh, dude, should I change it?
	Do I need to change it?
	You already talk about you African-American.
	That's right, so I get a pass.
	I get a pass.
	Oh, God.
	Fuck.
	But I didn't give it away.
	I'll give you the pass.
	Wait, am I being insensitive to the no, because there's so much, you want to change it because there's so many like that.
	I don't think you got Blue Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter, now Big Labia Matters.
	Now everyone gets the protest fight of what BLM stands for.
	Look, nobody owns an acronym, okay?
	Nobody gets to own an acronym.
	I can use the acronym.
	Trademark.
	Tears.
	You have to get BLM tatted on your forehead now.
	I'm actually going to.
	That's a good idea.
	You know, it would be smart to collide the two.
	You would get a lot more sales.
	Big black labia is matter.
	Big black.
	Is that it?
	Hey, but they do talk about the BBC, so I feel like it would be fair.
	Yes, BBLM.
	There's not enough.
	There's not enough advocacy for.
	This is an intersectional organization.
	Not only do we care about big labia, we specifically have DIE.
	We need to have fair representation.
	Big black labia matter.
	I agree.
	Maybe we throw in some dwarf.
	Yes, you need to get everyone.
	Dwarf labia matter?
	Yeah.
	Oh my gosh.
	Trans labia's matter.
	Off the rails, off the rails, and I blame it all on Andrew Wilson.
	Blame it all on Andrew Wilson.
	Okay, let's get into the back of the show.
	I mean, that's fair.
	That's fair.
	So did you ever, have you ever turned down a guy because in the past, because he didn't make seven figures?
	It's not because he didn't make seven figures, but it's because I didn't see us having a lifestyle that I would be comfortable in.
	I want to be, that's a big thing for me is that I really want to be financially comfortable.
	Okay.
	Do you want to be stay-at-home?
	Stay-at-home life?
	I don't have to.
	My current relationship I'm in, we are pretty much on the same page about not wanting to have kids.
	So I would still keep on having a career and having my own money, but I would like for him to be providing for the most part.
	Okay.
	But I think if I were to be having kids, then of course I'd want someone who's going to be providing 100%.
	But I think women should have their own money.
	Just curious, how old's your current boyfriend?
	He is turning 39 next week.
	39.
	And you said he's not quite at 100K?
	Or does he earn?
	His income is an interesting situation because he owns a home where he is a landlord on the property for different tenants that are living there while he pursues his own creative endeavors.
	And if you're watching this, hun, you are a little bit of a Nepo baby.
	So, but not too much, not too much.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So you said in the previous message you were in the top 2% of OnlyFans in 2021.
	You've also run some of the top accounts in the 0.01%.
	Yeah, so I was doing, are we allowed to say the full name or should we say OF?
	You can say OF, that's fine.
	Okay.
	So yeah, I was on OF for about a year and a half during the pandemic.
	And then I got into a relationship and stopped being active, but I started working at an agency, and the agency had a few different branches to it, and one of them was running OF accounts.
	So I was basically helping with the running of certain people's accounts.
	Okay.
	Wait, a couple questions for you.
	So did you do plus size modeling too?
	Yes.
	But I saw on your Instagram you're like, you're trying to lose weight currently, right?
	You're dieting.
	Yeah, I've lost 70 pounds.
	Congratulations.
	Oh, sorry.
	I meant to put.
	I'm sorry.
	They're right next to each.
	I pressed the wrong one.
	Congratulations.
	Thank you.
	I need to lose some.
	Have you tried Ozempic?
	No.
	I need to get on that shit.
	I got to lose.
	I got to lose myself.
	Me and Andrew.
	Me and Andrew, we're joining Weight Watchers any week now.
	Any week it's happening.
	Yeah, I think Weight Watchers probably isn't the best for they're an interesting way to lose weight, I guess.
	I lost 20 pounds of gut lean muscle when I quit seed oil.
	You're right.
	Me and Andrew are actually going to do Taibo classes together.
	Fuck seed oils, get the seed oil scout.
	Is Taibo still a thing?
	Andrew?
	Do you want to do like Taibo classes?
	We got to wear like leggings, though, if we do it, okay, Andrew?
	With the shorts on top of them.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You ready for Taibo class, Andrew?
	Andrew?
	I think I'll pass a Taibo.
	I thought we were going to keep each other accountable, Andrew.
	I'm going to fly over there.
	I'm not.
	I'm flying over there, and we're not going to do content.
	We're not going to talk business.
	We're not even going to shoot guns.
	We're just going to do Taibo classes.
	Yeah.
	No.
	No, no Taibo.
	No Taibo.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, you know, you're lost.
	Whatever.
	Yeah, I know.
	What was I?
	What am I thinking?
	So, what was that?
	Oh, do you think I have a shot as a plus-size model?
	How tall are you?
	Six feet.
	Six foot one.
	Honestly, probably, yeah, for like DXL, if you know that company.
	It's like, okay, so plus-size women fashion doesn't really have that.
	I mean, they have a good amount of options compared to the early 2000s.
	But in regards to men's plus-size fashion, they don't have like hardly any options.
	But DXL is a store that they can physically go in person, at least mostly in Southern California.
	And yeah, it's like one of the only in-person plus-size male retailers.
	So I have a shop then.
	I think so.
	What size do you wear?
	Bra?
	No, just like shirt and pants.
	Oh.
	Like XL right now.
	But I should probably like try to get back down to an L. Honestly, you could try.
	Is 6-1 your real head?
	Is like XL plus size?
	It's like you're a mid-size at that point, I guess.
	Is that your real height, or do you like to...
	I think my pants is, like, way bigger, because, like, the chat keeps telling me that I have, like, a fatty.
	In the front or the back?
	A dumpy.
	No, definitely in the back.
	A dumpy?
	Wait, what's a fat?
	What's a fatty in the front?
	Like a fupa?
	Like a fupa.
	Like a fupa?
	No, no, no.
	Don't have that yet.
	Okay.
	Maybe eventually.
	A couple more burgers.
	Well, let's hope not.
	But no, they keep telling me I have a dumpy or whatever.
	So it might be like XXL.
	XX.
	On the bottom?
	On the bottom.
	And L on the top.
	XL on the top.
	You're like pear-shaped.
	What's?
	Oh, my gosh.
	What the fuck?
	Like a pear if you got a big one.
	Morgan, do that again, Morgan.
	Do it again, Morgan.
	What the hell?
	That's crazy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, God.
	I think, honestly, I think Calvin Klein should hire me.
	They've hired plus size people.
	Like, I think it's time for plus size.
	There's a chick with the gap to representation.
	They hire anybody these days.
	Yo, Calvin Klein, get at me.
	And me too.
	Me too.
	You're going to be plus size too?
	I'm going to try.
	I want to.
	I can gain a few pounds.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Do not try to be plus size.
	You can start doing mook bangs.
	Oh, yeah.
	Have you seen Jelly Bean Sweets?
	The rapper?
	No.
	The mukbang.
	He's a mookbanger.
	You know who I'm talking about?
	Probably.
	Okay.
	I watched that stuff a lot.
	She's blowing up in a lot of ways.
	Her stomach.
	She knows what she's doing.
	Let's see.
	In your notes, you said your entire dating history is wild.
	Loads of stories.
	Dated and traveled the United States for eight months.
	I can tell you about my experience dating in Chicago, New York City, Vegas, and LA.
	I've dated millionaires.
	I've also dated guys who took me to McDonald's and the Walk in the Park on the first date.
	It's true.
	So like now that I have what I would consider higher standards for dating, I did not have the standards that you see here today at 28 when I was younger.
	Yeah.
	I feel that.
	I feel that.
	And I feel like being part of the OF world kind of opened me up to having these experiences with like dating men who had like more resources, I guess, to offer.
	Your standards have increased since your youth?
	Yes.
	Oh, it's pretty typical, I would say.
	Hmm.
	Wait, did you do any like PayP stuff?
	Like the guys were PayPs?
	Oh, like I'm a dominatrix or something?
	Like FinDong?
	No, not really.
	But you had like sugar daddies.
	I guess, I don't really know if I would consider them that, but I guess guys online would send me money.
	Does any girl here just show of hands had a sugar daddy?
	My actual dad.
	He sends me money.
	Nah, not even my actual dad.
	Okay.
	Sorry, maybe you want to think about retracting that statement.
	Yeah, maybe a little bit.
	Wait, so.
	Okay.
	But you don't do OF anymore.
	Why did you quit?
	Because I got into a relationship with a guy who was willing to provide me a certain lifestyle.
	So I left and just didn't feel like it was right for me to get back into.
	I kind of realized that I was interested in talking to just one guy and not talking to a bunch of people on the site.
	What's the wealthiest guy you ever dated?
	Any billionaire?
	No billionaire, but one of my exes was making like $300K a year.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Nice.
	Nice.
	You said topics you wanted to talk on.
	Dating men with money while plus size, dating while plus size in general, dating while losing weight, and desirability politics.
	What's desirability politics?
	Kind of like what I was saying before with you asked me, oh, do something about like the scale from like, because I know you guys rate each other through one through 10.
	You can do that right now?
	I mean, I don't run the podcast.
	I don't know.
	Oh, so desirability politics essentially just where you land in the dating marketplace in terms of your desirability.
	Yeah.
	But what are the politics of that?
	I guess just like how people feel about where certain people stand.
	Sure.
	You know what?
	That's a great suggestion.
	Perfect timing.
	Stiffler, ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
	You can't pick seven.
	Starting with you, go ahead.
	I would give myself a realistic 6.5.
	Okay.
	Oh my gosh.
	Okay.
	Oh, wait, I wasn't muted?
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah, dude, we could hear.
	We heard that, Andrew.
	Oh, I'm sorry about that, man.
	We could see you, too.
	I was laughing at something my chat said.
	If you don't agree with my 6.5, that's okay.
	That's your opinion.
	What about you?
	I've been working on my body and going to the gym every day eating healthy, so I'd say a 9, 10 because I want to get there.
	I'm like, I feel confident in myself.
	That's why I say that.
	I'm not everyone's like 10 or 9 or 8, but I get it, you know?
	How long have you been sober?
	Almost three years.
	Oh, okay.
	And I work, you know, I eat healthy.
	So I'm like, I feel confident in myself and like where my body's at and everything.
	Where before I would have looked in the mirror and said a zero.
	So 10?
	Nine, because I want to, I'm still working on getting exactly where I want.
	Also, I want to have the chat rate you on something.
	Chat, rate her voice on a scale of one to ten.
	Because I think a lot of guys kind of like the more raspy.
	I've practiced it for music.
	Oh, you practice the raspy voice?
	Six years ago, it kind of, you know, like that the Elvis movie where he just like kept that voice.
	That's kind of like what happened to me.
	I don't know.
	I've seen, I've had like some videos and shows where girls will have a bit more of a raspy voice.
	A lot of guys really like the raspy voice, so I'm curious.
	So what is it?
	One in the chat?
	How about just, I don't know.
	Do you guys prefer raspy?
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	What about you?
	I rate myself a 10 always because I look better and better every single day, regardless of what happens.
	And I need to always think that of myself.
	10.
	8 on a great day.
	I don't want to come off vain, but I also don't want to feed into that question because I feel like he likes to just see women either degrade themselves or look arrogant.
	So I'm just going to leave that to God.
	Wait, who's he?
	Whoever Stifler is.
	Oh, Stifler?
	Stephen Stifler.
	Stiffler.
	Yeah, but I think I'm beautiful inside and out.
	So 10?
	I wouldn't say 10.
	That's kind of vain.
	But I'm not going to rate myself because I don't like that question.
	If you did like the question, though.
	Do you have like...
	What would you, oh my god, do you have a number in your goblin that you know is an answer?
	No.
	I don't.
	Is it a 10, but you don't want to sound arrogant?
	Well, she's saying she doesn't want to sound very awesome.
	She really isn't arrogant.
	No, I really don't.
	I really just...
	So I really just don't know the purpose of asking that question.
	I think it has some malice behind it, and I don't really appreciate it.
	So I don't want to feed into it.
	Okay.
	I'll get back to that in a sec.
	Mia, what about you?
	I'd rate myself an eight and a half.
	Okay.
	Morgan?
	Eight.
	Ava?
	I said six last time.
	I would do seven, maybe, if we were allowed.
	You said you can't do seven.
	I said I would if we were allowed.
	If it was allowed, but it's not, so.
	Okay.
	All right.
	There you go.
	I give myself a five.
	Andrew, what about you?
	Four.
	All right.
	I need to get up for a sec, Andrew.
	Do you have any Inquisition?
	Do you have an Inquisition?
	Inquisition, what the fuck?
	An Inquisition.
	I do have an Inquisition or two.
	Begin your inquiry, sir.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah.
	So I was going to ask you, I'm sorry I wasn't able to catch everybody's name because I'm a little late to the broadcast.
	The gal with the pink hair, what'd you say your name was?
	Star.
	Star.
	It's nice to meet you, Star.
	I understand why you don't want to rate yourself because you find it to be like a trick question.
	But it's really not a trick question.
	I feel like if I can explain to you why this question is asked, you'll be far more likely to answer it.
	So the reason that this question is asked is because it's our belief that many, many women actually judge each other the second they sit down at the table, the second they sit down at the table with other women.
	And if we can get a full camera view of the room real quick, can you raise your hand if this is correct, that you have either experienced this or done it yourself, which is okay.
	You've gotten in a room with other women and you immediately rate their looks.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	Right.
	So because we know that this is true, because that is the number one most common answer, we feel like when we ask this question to you guys, you don't actually want to hurt any of the other gals' feelings who might be there.
	And so you answer perhaps dishonestly, even though we know the chances are pretty good that you've already been comparing yourself to probably every other woman who's sitting at that table.
	So that's what the purpose of the question is.
	Not really a trick.
	It's just to kind of assess which gals are going to be honest with us and which ones are not going to be honest with us.
	That's really what the point of it is.
	Does that make sense?
	I think that's your point, but I don't think that was Steifler's point.
	I think that a lot of guys that watch this have an animosity towards women and they want us to rate ourselves to look like a fool or something, either to look arrogant or to look overconfident or to degrade ourselves.
	How can you look like a fool if you tell the truth?
	I just don't think rating myself is something I owe Steifler.
	Well, you don't owe it to him, no, but you can understand that it seems like kind of foolish to me to say, well, me telling the truth is going to make me look foolish.
	I mean, that's not going to make you look foolish, right?
	The more honest you are with your answer, the less foolish you're going to look.
	In fact, you could even play it against Dipler and give yourself a rating, which is more of an assessment of what you actually think.
	And that'll probably actually, the joke's on him then, right?
	Well, just doing social media, I just don't respond to comments that I don't want to.
	And I don't want to respond to his comment because he seems weird.
	Okay, well, let me ask you a different question.
	Who would you say, from your own personal opinion, is the prettiest girl sitting at the table?
	The prettiest girl sitting at the table?
	I don't know what's the point of you asking that because I think.
	Okay, well, then let me ask you a different question then.
	Between myself and Brian, which one do you think is better looking?
	Sam, bro.
	Why you got I mean, none of you guys are my type, so I don't really see it that way.
	Yeah, no, I mean, that's fine.
	We can both be ugly.
	I mean, that's perfectly acceptable.
	I do like white guys, but just 21-year-olds, maybe Christian.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that's that's totally he's an Orthodox Christian.
	Yeah, but the point of the question is just to assess, uh, you know, like from your own subjective opinion, yes, we're not your type.
	Maybe we're both once.
	That's totally acceptable, too.
	Right, not gonna hurt our feelings, I promise.
	Even that comment there just gave me like bad vibes.
	I just know the vibe, I know the energy behind it, and I don't feed into negative energy like that.
	What's the negative energy intuitively?
	It's not good.
	I think it's variants.
	It's trying to be argumentative or something I don't think is good for my spirit.
	I think if you answer the question, it would have been easier and it wouldn't have been as argumentative.
	I think it's more argumentative that you keep on dragging it along and saying, I don't want to answer.
	You could just answer.
	You could give an honest or fake answer, vain or not.
	You could just give an answer.
	When he asked who's the prettiest, I saw you look around first.
	Right.
	She actually called the prettiest.
	Like, you looked around, so I was like, and then you said you don't want to answer.
	Like, after you looked around at all of us, that's right.
	I just don't understand why I can't not answer.
	Like, I don't owe an answer.
	You can't not answer, and you don't owe anything.
	And nobody's saying you owe anybody anything, and nobody's saying you must answer.
	The reason that we're wondering why you won't is just simple.
	I just want the simple reasoning.
	Is it just because you don't want to hurt anybody's feelings?
	I don't know because answering the question wouldn't hurt anyone's feelings.
	Okay, are you prettier than the girl in chair one?
	That would be the one sitting directly across from Brian.
	I'm not prettier than anybody.
	It's simply because I just think he asked it is because you're not prettier than anybody at the table.
	You really think that?
	No, I'm saying that I don't like look, I'm not comparing myself like that.
	No.
	Like, I'm not over here like sizing everyone up.
	Like, I'm prettier than this person.
	It's just that it's simply because I don't like his question.
	Why are you asking me to rape myself?
	If any guy asked me that, I wouldn't answer it.
	Okay.
	I mean, I can't force you to answer.
	It just seems very disingenuous, right?
	I genuinely don't want to answer it.
	And you genuinely don't answer it.
	I won't.
	Oh, there was something.
	I totally missed it.
	Shit.
	Well, if it comes to me, I'll try to remember it.
	Well, kind of related to this going around the table, we asked this kind of as a follow-up question.
	And just to give a bit of context, because you're asking, like, why do people ask these kind of questions?
	Why does it matter?
	I definitely think how you self-evaluate yourself is really important when it comes to dating.
	So that's, and obviously, looks is really important when it comes to dating.
	So combine looks and then self-evaluation.
	That's going to dictate what you think you deserve in the dating marketplace.
	It's going to dictate what kind of partner you can get, what kind of things you can ask for, your standards, those sort of things.
	So that's kind of one of the reasons why I think Stiffler and definitely not the whatever podcast asks it.
	That's definitely why Stiffler definitely asks it.
	Definitely not ever the whatever podcast.
	But going around the table, do you think you will be better looking in 10 years' time as compared to now?
	Starting with you.
	In 10 years, I would be 38, and I hope just keep getting better and better.
	So, yeah.
	Okay.
	What about in 20 years' time?
	I've seen it.
	Like, I've seen some women online and in person who I know, and they age like fine wine.
	I think they just get better and better looking.
	So, I think it's possible.
	Okay, what about 30 years' time?
	To a certain group, maybe yes.
	To a certain group, maybe no.
	I don't know.
	In 30 years, it depends on, I guess, what you value in regards to like dating and beauty.
	Because by the time I'm like 60, it's going to be an interesting dating pool and dating market, I guess.
	So, who I think I want to try to frame this a little differently tonight.
	So, when it comes to the heterosexual dating marketplace, who are the appraisers of physical attraction?
	What do you mean?
	So, okay, do you think that looks are important when it comes to dating?
	Yeah, I think that they play a factor.
	And you date men, right?
	Yes.
	And do you think men care a lot, a little, medium amount about looks?
	I think they care about looks generally pretty high.
	Okay.
	I think there's other factors that come into play besides just looks.
	And so the question reframed is then: at what age do you think of the entire population of men, do you think you will have the most amount of men attracted to you?
	Currently, at 28, 38, 48, 58, 68.
	Because you said you would be better looking at 58, so then would it stand to reason that the vast majority, the majority of men, would find you at your most attractive at 58?
	I would say majority probably wouldn't because I guess the majority of men we're thinking about are looking maybe to get married and have children.
	And at that age, I wouldn't be seen as desirable to men who are interested in doing that.
	But maybe the people who like your sound gifts, they would be into it.
	So it depends on the guy, I guess.
	Okay.
	And then, because just one other point of clarification.
	So when we're asking this question, we're not saying that women can't be attractive at 38, 48, beyond, etc.
	We're just asking, compared to now, like yourself, will you be more attractive 10 years' time, 20 years' time, 30 years' time, etc.
	So far, I feel like I've gotten more attractive as I age.
	So maybe not my peak at 38, but I think maybe like 32, I'll probably be the most attractive in my own opinion.
	Got it.
	And then, are you more attractive now at 28 than you were at 18?
	I would say yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	You're 20.
	Do you think you'll be more attractive at 30 than you are now?
	My mom is the most beautiful person I know and she aged like fine wine.
	Even my friends are like hitting on her.
	So I think pretty much.
	Not for me though, but obviously.
	But also.
	How old's your mom?
	She's 57.
	She's older.
	My parents are.
	Wait, your like 20-year-old male friends are hitting on your mom?
	My actual porn star friend, he's hitting on my grandma, who's 86.
	Took some MILF.
	Gilf.
	Watch!
	And my grandma hits on him back, by the way.
	What?
	She asked for a video of his porn.
	So basically, my.
	Oh my god.
	She goes, Yeah, it just keeps popping up on my phone now.
	Bro.
	Yeah.
	But yeah, my.
	I can't believe you even said that on YouTube.
	You see, you just said that on YouTube.
	Audio?
	I'm sorry to the world.
	Please don't listen to this.
	I'm sorry for her.
	I'll pray for her.
	Basically, my whole family is beautiful, so I feel like I'm going to age good.
	Okay.
	So, better looking at 30 then?
	No.
	I'm just saying I'll look good at 30.
	Stop it.
	Get some help.
	I'm just saying I'll look good at 30.
	Am I not making sense?
	Is that funny?
	Am I meeting that?
	No, I mean, the build-up is just like, I know I'm going to be hot for the rest of my life, but like, I'm peaking right now, I feel like.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, because the question is just, will you be better looking in 10 years' time?
	I'm astray.
	You'll still be attractive, but you're saying now's like the peak.
	It's prime time.
	Prime time.
	It gets worse from 20.
	Prime time at the RBs.
	That didn't make sense.
	They have the meat.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Hashtag pink papia mad.
	All right, what about you?
	You're 20.
	Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
	Yes.
	20 years' time?
	At 40?
	Compared to 20?
	Maybe.
	Because, yeah, you're 20, so better looking at 30, better looking at 40.
	Better looking at 30, yes.
	But 40?
	Maybe.
	Maybe.
	What did you say last time?
	I said yes.
	Okay, 50?
	Maybe.
	60?
	I don't know.
	It's just because my family, they age like fat in like that.
	No, like what I mean is that like my family, they start to get all like depressed and like it's just scary.
	Like they let go of themselves in a way of not even just physical appearance, but mental.
	And it's just like, I don't know.
	I hope I don't look at it.
	We'll skip Madison because we've heard her answer a million times.
	Star, what about you?
	I don't know.
	It's possible.
	You're 26, right?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I get better looking every year.
	I don't know when it'll stop.
	Do you think you'll be better looking at 36 than you are now at 26?
	Possibly, because maybe I'll be more fit and work out more.
	I don't really work out a lot right now.
	What about in 10 years' time, another 10 years' time, so 20 years, 46, as compared to now at 26?
	I mean, realistically, no.
	Okay.
	And then do you think you're better looking at 18 as compared to now?
	No.
	So better looking now.
	Okay, Mia?
	I think I will definitely look very attractive when I'm older, but I think as of right now, this is my peak.
	Okay, so better looking at 32 or no?
	I think I'll definitely be very attractive.
	I think I'll age well, but I don't think I'll be better looking at 32.
	Sure.
	So I think it was just you and you that said better looking in 10, 20, 30 years' time.
	Or also star just for the 10 years though.
	I think like five years' time.
	Maybe not 10.
	That's when you'll peak in five years.
	Around that.
	Oh, I see.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	Interesting answers.
	Are you going to look better in 10 years?
	No.
	It's downhill from here.
	Actually, I mean, there can be arguments that can be made.
	I don't fully buy into the whole across the board, men age like that whole men age like fine wine.
	I think there's differences between men and women.
	There's definitely differences when you look at actual, they've done studies, and they'll have like women across all ages appraise men of various ages, and you have men of all ages appraise women of all ages.
	Women do have a tendency to like find men around their age, a little bit older, as the most attractive as they get older.
	Whereas men, it tends to stay pretty static throughout their entire lives.
	In terms of what they find most physically attractive, I think they typically put it between like 20 and 22.
	I like older men, so I think guys just get more attractive.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like 50 cut off, but you know, like.
	But I mean, there's plenty of guys who also don't.
	People do let themselves go, but like if you're a fit like, you know, Equinox, like 48-year-old, you're my type.
	Like, I think I was better looking when I'm 35.
	I was better looking when I was 25, to be honest.
	Even if I was like the exact same weight, I'm pretty confident I was better looking.
	I think you can make yourself as attractive as you want.
	Like your goal is.
	Can you?
	Yeah, I genuinely think that.
	Not like plastic surgery.
	I think if somebody works out and gets the type of body they want, their confidence goes with their style.
	I think confidence is key to look attractive.
	It's the way you walk, it's the way you talk, it's the way you dress, in my opinion.
	I think everyone's attractive, but they just have to put the effort in.
	Like anyone could be successful, too.
	I don't really feel like arguing that, but I think there's just some people that are kind of doomed.
	Yeah, I do agree.
	That's fair.
	Doomed.
	Doomed.
	Anyways, that's not really worth arguing that one.
	Did you have more of any more inquiry, Andrew?
	Did you want to answer that?
	I mean, I think that that is worth arguing a little bit, right?
	So confident and ugly is still ugly.
	True.
	I'm saying if you put in the work to be attractive, you can't be like the grossest looking person and have confidence.
	I think confidence and effort go together hand in hand to get that attractiveness.
	Like if anyone here, like, I'm not saying anyone's bad, I'm saying if anyone here wanted to like completely get just like ripped at the gym and like dress better, like you could get there.
	Yeah, but if we assess this, if we assess relationships, I think inside of a relationship, the most common answer that I hear is the attractiveness, the physical attractiveness has to be there, right?
	Both parties have to be physically attracted to the other party.
	They have to.
	If they're not attracted to them, they don't have any interest in them whatsoever, right?
	So that has to be there.
	So you could say confidence is key to making yourself more attractive.
	I don't even disagree, but I think that it is mitigated by your physical characteristics more than anything else.
	So I think that your attractiveness is going to be your physical characteristics.
	That's going to be the primary.
	But then other kind of like subsets, like maybe a good sense of humor, confidence level, things like that.
	I think that those matter, but to a way lesser degree.
	Would you agree with that?
	I think everybody has a different type.
	I think confidence is attractive, and I like, you know, different features, and you might like, and everyone else likes, so when somebody...
	Hang on, hang on, let me...
	Let me stop real quick.
	We'll just back up a little bit.
	I'm not disputing that everybody's going to have different tastes.
	They're all going to have different preferences, this kind of thing.
	Some men like brunettes, some men like blondes, blah, I agree with that.
	However, there are beauty standards and characteristics, which we can all agree we all pretty much want.
	So here, let me give you an example.
	Raise your hand at the table if you would like to increase your weight.
	You can raise it.
	Right?
	Yeah, nothing.
	Yeah.
	Just maybe Madison.
	Right?
	So one, out of all of you.
	So clearly, you must think that thinner is more attractive, right?
	That's what I'm saying.
	And these are like universals, though.
	And if these are universals, then there has to be some things that we're all basically agreeing on when it comes to physical characteristics.
	I think it depends on who you're asking because there is like that little subgroup online that's interested in larger women.
	But I'm not disputing that.
	Yeah.
	So I'm not disputing that there's going to be outliers to this.
	I'm not disputing that there's not going to be a lot of money.
	There's some guy out there who wants a double burn victim who has her tongue hanging out through her teeth and a hunch on her back.
	I'm sure that that guy exists somewhere on this planet, okay?
	But I'm not talking or speaking to him.
	I'm speaking to just kind of generally what people find attractive in other people.
	So while I can say I think that men definitely prefer blondes or brunettes, I think that they still prefer to be on the thinner side.
	Kind of with a curvy waist and big boobs.
	I think that they can, there's like going to be some universals there, right?
	That's what I'm saying is you could get there.
	Like not all the time, but most of the time you can work out and get that skinny body.
	Like you earn those things is what I'm getting at.
	Like you're not born and you're not destined to have these things.
	You could change these characteristics.
	If you want to be have brown hair, you dye your hair brown.
	If you want to be fit, you go to the gym, you eat healthy.
	That's what I'm getting at.
	Is you could change the fish.
	Yeah, but I'm not really disputing that.
	I'm just saying how much of that does confidence play into?
	And I'm not confident that it plays into a lot.
	So I would say that a person, for instance, on the woman.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Let me finish my point.
	I would say on the person's side where, let's say that they're not very confident, a man is not very confident, but he has very chiseled features.
	He's tall and he makes a lot of money.
	That women will still find him more attractive than they will a short, bald guy who's fat.
	I was hanging out with a guy that was perfectly my type, but he was so, he was, he was like also a crier.
	He was also like, oh my God, I'm fat.
	I need to lose weight.
	And it was so unattractive to me.
	And he was like, my turn.
	Yeah, I know, but you were hanging out with him, right?
	We stopped hanging out because he wasn't.
	Yeah, but you were hanging out with him, right?
	Up until he got so.
	Yeah, but you were hanging out with him, which means the physical characteristics trumped at least for a time the personality.
	Yeah, but it was unattractive to me how he acted.
	Sure, I'm not saying that it couldn't, that there couldn't be things very attractive people do, which are so annoying that it'll drive you away from them.
	I'm just saying that the key quality that we're looking for, seemingly, is there has to be some sort of attraction.
	So even if this guy was super annoying and you ditched him, you were still with him, right?
	You were still with him for at least some length of time based on the fact that, like you said, he was totally your type, right?
	That's valid.
	I mean, but yeah, I'm saying the confidence would have made him more attractive.
	Yeah, I'm sure.
	I'm sure it would have, but to what degree?
	If you're right, to what degree?
	Because the thing, the reason you were with him is because of these other characteristics besides that thing, right?
	Yeah, I think the way you talk, the way you walk, if you go around thinking you're the baddest in the room, I think that's attractive.
	Maybe that's, you know, just me.
	And I think that being confident in yourselves gives you this like more outgoing vibe to you that like changes your perspective.
	And I'm saying that goes along with how you look.
	I know we're talking about looks here.
	I think it goes along with looks because if you're confident, you stand up, you look taller.
	If you're confident, you go outside more and dress like in more flattering clothes like that fit you better rather than a big hoodie that hides your body.
	If you're confident, that means you probably have better mental health and you're actively working on how you look.
	Confidency can be described in many different ways.
	Like there's very ugly men who are very, very confident, right?
	Sure.
	Perhaps they have some skill set or something like this, which drives the ego up and the confidence up.
	Who knows, right?
	Yeah.
	But ultimately, I'm not disagreeing that confidence is not or an attribute that women would want.
	I'm sure that it is.
	I'm just saying that initially, there still has to be the physical attractiveness for you to even give him a shot to even learn what his personality is to know if he's confident.
	Correct.
	Yeah, so I'm thinking, so I think on the category scale here then, we're still looking for physical attractiveness first.
	That has to be present.
	I think in regards to like dating apps and men dating in general, on both ends with the confidence part, I think that you would have to have enough confidence in yourself to even get on the app or to go out and try to date.
	So I think that confidence plays a factor in just your availability on the market in general.
	Because if you're constantly thinking, oh, I'm not good enough, or oh, I'm not going to even try to date, then you're kind of limiting yourself to the opportunity to get out there and date.
	So while I think like, even for myself, you can better your looks.
	I think you do have to have some sort of internal confidence to even get to the point of dating.
	Yeah, but I think that that's tangential.
	So the thing is, is let me let me give you an example of what I mean.
	Let's assume for a second that you could only pick between two guys.
	And these are the only two who are available.
	You're on a desert island, okay?
	One, one is five foot two.
	He's bald.
	He's short and he's fat.
	Guy two is six foot two.
	He has abs, full head of hair, right?
	And, you know, the colored eyes that you like.
	Which guy would you pick?
	And by the way, first guy, short, bald, fat guy, super confident.
	Guy two, he's a little shy.
	I would need to know more about them than their physical appearance and if they're shy.
	If we're stranded on a desert, I just want to get with the attractive guy.
	I just don't want to hear him talk.
	I'll walk away and find water.
	Right, exactly.
	And I think that that's an honest answer, right?
	I think the honesty is.
	I think you're right on that aspect.
	I think the honest answer is, hey, look, I'd much rather be with the attractive, shy guy.
	I don't have to deal with his shit, right?
	I would still physically prefer him, and that needs to be present, right?
	I think we're on the same page.
	I think what I'm getting at is confidence plays a factor and it's not the full thing.
	I agree with you.
	It's not everything.
	I just think it does play a huge factor in how you value yourself and who you go for.
	I wonder how much it plays because I think it does play a factor.
	I'm not mitigating that, right?
	But let's say this is the other reason we use this kind of like point scale system, one to 10, right?
	So I think if you're a five as a guy and you're super confident and you do a lot of work on your body to make it physically attractive, you could maybe bump that up two points, you know, maybe.
	And that's really trying everything.
	Maybe you could bump it up two points.
	I think that for women, going from a four to a six or a seven, that's really just a matter of losing some weight generally.
	And that's really, it doesn't take much more than that, right?
	It doesn't take much more than that.
	So I still think that physically attractive men, the pool of them is much smaller from what women consider to be physically attractive than the other way around, meaning what women find physically attractive in men.
	I like fat men sometimes.
	I like a fat daddy.
	What?
	Was that guy who you beat up?
	Was he fat?
	He used to be fat.
	That's when we were together.
	He lost weight and then you beat him up.
	He had to be able to run away from you.
	Yeah, he was running away.
	Interesting.
	We have a chat here from Killa of Cereal.
	Maddie, you can have you read it.
	Time takes a toll on us all, an objective reality of how biology works.
	You've seen those time-lapse videos of decomposing roadkill, right?
	Would you rather eat a rotten apple or a fresh one?
	What?
	I have seen those time-lapses.
	Appreciate it.
	Good to see you in the chat.
	Kill of cereal from Noah.
	In my experience, the more money you make, the less a man's look matter to looks matter to women.
	Hmm.
	X. More weird?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but then this brings up the question of: is she there for you or is she there for your wallet, right?
	That's where the this is where the kind of decisive conversation comes in.
	People have bad motives.
	Like, I don't think it, I think it makes you more attractive because your wallet's attractive, not because you're attractive.
	Right, I agree.
	Exactly.
	Do you think that's maybe why, like, you also like older guys?
	Is there actually, but hold on, is there actually anything wrong with women being attracted to men who are wealthy?
	It's a different kind of attractiveness.
	Like, I obviously.
	But isn't that of the nature?
	Okay, if you ask the same question of the bald guy and the tall guy, the bald guy has $6 million.
	The bald guy, or the attractive guy that he said, has like $10.
	I'm still going to go for the more attractive guy.
	That's true.
	Like, especially on an island.
	No, but especially if you're stranded on an island, just you three, that money means nothing.
	So I'm going off the bottom of that.
	That's not really, that's really not really the conversation.
	So let's assume like women are attracted to the money.
	Sure.
	I don't know.
	I don't know if there's actually anything wrong with that.
	I think there's something wrong with it if it's not packaged together well.
	Like if you are an 18-year-old woman and you're going to date a 70-year-old man because he has millions of dollars, I think that that's a little messy.
	However, in my experience of dating men who do have comfortable incomes, it's not just because of the comfortable income.
	That just plays one factor in the entire like pie chart of attractiveness.
	Now, just to be clear, I would hope women care about more than just the money, but I mean, it would seem like in the same way that a lot of men are going to see like a really stunning, beautiful woman, and like that will be the basis of their entire attraction.
	Myron donated $200.
	All women are gold diggers.
	Some are just better at hiding the shuffle.
	Is that actually Myron?
	No, no, thank you, Myron.
	Appreciate it.
	Probably.
	Well, I would say, thank you.
	This is why I would say: if you're a man, I was thinking about this the other night.
	If you're a man out there and you really wanted to test this, you just want to see, is she with me because of my money, or is she with me because she actually likes me?
	I would pull the coming to America thing and I would go get like a ratty apartment, beat up apartment, and I would present myself as not.
	You can still present yourself as looking sharp, this kind of thing, but I present myself as not having very much money.
	That's how I would test her.
	I would just see, you know what I mean?
	That's what I would do.
	Then you know, are you with me for the money or are you not with me for the money?
	That's why I think guys who make bank like millionaires should take a chick to like McDonald's or just have like split split the check.
	Old combo.
	Hell yeah.
	I don't know.
	But like, I guess going back to my statement, I don't think, like, if women become more attracted to a guy because he's wealthy and ambitious and successful and has a great career, I don't know if that, like, what's actually wrong with that?
	Certainly, I hope that she will care about more things than just purely that.
	But I don't see anything wrong with it in terms of it actually being an attraction trigger for women.
	I think you should definitely like them for their insights, but seeing if the guy has brings up his value, like, yeah, that's usually what they like you guys for.
	For the inside.
	The inside.
	But what's it called?
	Yeah, I think I don't know where I'm going with this, anyways.
	What's the next thing?
	The next react we have to do?
	Well, you were kind of looking at me funny when I said that.
	Like, you thought I was way off, way off base there.
	Yeah, acting as though you have no money.
	Here's my rationale for this.
	Oh, I wasn't looking at you.
	I was just making faces in general.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, the rationale is the most successful married couples that I know started off poor together.
	Oh, and when the dude ended up with money later on in life, he knew for sure that the woman was with him specifically because of him.
	And he knew that because he didn't have shit, and she was with him when he didn't have shit.
	So that's how he knows, right?
	So I just think it seems like a pretty good test.
	Definitely.
	Definitely.
	What do we have for Reacts next?
	Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention this.
	I mean, this is not, we're not going to dive into it.
	Guys, apparently, Joe Biden, Joseph Biden, is in Santa Barbara.
	Biden arrives for San Yanos.
	Well, that's Santa Barbara.
	I think that's the Santa Barbara Airport, Air Force One.
	So we were trying to get him on the show to replace the Daily Wire guy, but unfortunately, like Kamala, she shut that shit down.
	Like, I tried to reach out to Camelot to see if we could get Uncle Biden on, but like, she just wasn't.
	Joe was already sleeping on the beach by then, huh?
	Yeah, he was like, see that picture?
	5 p.m. is like his bedtime, so we had a week.
	The ice cream store closed by now, too.
	Yeah, like McConnell's or whatever.
	Too bad.
	He got to get the department.
	But yeah, he's here.
	That's why, I don't know if you guys have heard any of the airplanes.
	Like, there's fucking ospreys here.
	Here's the Cheromira Mocracy.
	Wait, what?
	I think they're called Ospreys.
	Is that how the wife's going to be?
	Can you hear me?
	Am I saying it right?
	Osprey?
	Osprey?
	Just find the Wikipedia article.
	Guys, there's been fucking ospreys flying around and shit.
	Can you find it?
	Oh, that's not F11.
	Okay.
	Scroll down a little.
	Maybe other side.
	Put us on the other.
	Okay.
	There's been a couple of those flying around.
	It's been pretty crazy.
	Anyways, whatever.
	What's the other react?
	What is it?
	Do you know what it is?
	Paramount?
	Paramount.
	Let me see what it is.
	Yeah, we can react to this.
	Go ahead and play it.
	So last night I ended things with a guy that in one of my previous videos I had referred to as the most intentional man I've ever spoken to.
	It really does suck because he truly is amazing, has a lot of the things I'm looking for in a person, but we hung out like six or seven times and I just wasn't feeling it.
	And it's just really a shame because he really is a great guy.
	If he had asked me for more details, I really don't know that I would have been able to give him any besides that shame, but there's really nothing you can do.
	It's just the name of the game.
	Yeah, let this be a lesson that being a good guy, nice guy, chivalrous, romantic, green flag, you know, emotionally available, intentional with your communications, showing her what a great boyfriend you would be, what a great dad you would be.
	These things don't necessarily build attraction, even though women say it does.
	So, going around the table, have any of you ever had that experience where on paper the guy had everything, could have been good-looking, treated you well, good person, funny, confident, good personality, all the things you want, but there just wasn't the click.
	There wasn't the vibe, there wasn't the chemistry, there wasn't the butterflies, there wasn't the lightning, the thunder, the electricity, whatever sort of bullshit other terms there are.
	Have you ever had that?
	Yeah, I think that everyone's gone out with someone who initially the conversation was going well, but then in person, you just like don't vibe the same.
	Yeah, I think it happens.
	I don't think I. Just one point of clarification: I don't think she said that the conversation was bad.
	I think she just said there wasn't the personality.
	Good looking.
	Nope, she didn't say that either.
	She said it was six to seven dates.
	She said, in fact, that if she had to describe a reason, she couldn't tell you what it was.
	Everything was there.
	She just didn't.
	He was attractive.
	She had all the qualities he was looking for or she was looking for.
	She just, she just wasn't feeling it.
	What do you think?
	I agree with the pheromones thing.
	I think, well, it is.
	You see someone, it's like in a, it's an attractive thing.
	Like, it's chemistry, like how they say that, because it comes from pheromones.
	Okay.
	But have you had that experience?
	Oh, that was a question.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Yes, I have had that experience.
	Somebody's been attractive to me, everything, hang out, but it just wasn't there.
	And I think it's because I have a tendency to compare people to exes.
	That's my reasoning for it.
	I just want my ex, so I'm just like.
	Who's your ex?
	I'm not talking about a specific one.
	I'm not talking about a specific one.
	Every relationship is.
	Is this a way to frame it?
	They don't measure up to your ex.
	In what way?
	I think when I want to get in a relationship, it's a pheromones thing.
	And if it's not, it's just me comparing it to my ex and they're not that.
	But if some.
	I'm making no sense.
	I compare people a lot, just like the comparing women at a table.
	I compare people all the time.
	Like, oh my God, but this guy's better.
	This girl's better.
	Like, this or that.
	My brain is just very judgy, I think, which I'm working on.
	But it's a comparison thing.
	Okay.
	Like my ex, I would compare her to mine.
	I work on it.
	You've been the most honest person at the table tonight.
	I don't think.
	I don't think most of the women who are sitting at the table really, I don't think their brains function too much differently than yours do when it comes to this.
	I think that they're probably often making comparisons to previous partners that they've had.
	I think that they're often judging the attractiveness of men and women who are sitting next to them.
	I don't think that that's unreasonable to think that that's the assessment.
	People mostly are pattern recognition machines, so why wouldn't they make comparisons, right?
	Makes sense.
	What is it that some of these guys were lacking that your ex had?
	I think part of it is the history.
	Because I don't miss my ex.
	I miss the time I wasted in the memories, if that makes sense.
	So I think I compare it to the memories we have.
	Like, oh, that first date was magical.
	Like, we did this.
	Like, it was the perfect like cookie cutter movie night.
	And we didn't have that the first time we met.
	We met on Hinge and we had sex and got dinner.
	The chemistry was completely there.
	But that magical, like, this experience, so the history behind it, like where you compare each moment to the next.
	GMD Jim Donate $100.
	Andrew, I have done the hiding my success test back when I dated.
	Did not drive the nice cars and wore sweats.
	Cut the female interaction by at least 75%.
	Brian, out to one of your months.
	L to?
	Yeah, I mean, that doesn't really surprise me.
	I'm sure that it did.
	I'm just talking about what it is that you value.
	So I think there's probably plenty of guys who they don't give a shit.
	They're just like, okay, if you're attracting me based on my money, that's just fine with me.
	I'm just talking specifically about men who want to have something more than to just be valued for that.
	Can the chat make up a nickname for her that has to do with Avril Lavigne?
	I've gone that so much.
	I know.
	Hold on.
	Oh, okay.
	I don't know what I'm doing.
	All right.
	I'm complicated.
	Do you know how to sing the song?
	Which one?
	Complicated.
	Go ahead and do it.
	Why you gotta make.
	Wait, now I'm like, I'm so spaced out.
	Skater girl.
	Skater boy.
	Skater boy.
	He was a skater boy.
	She said, see you later, boy.
	He wasn't good enough for her.
	Now he's a superstar.
	Slamming on his guitar.
	Like that.
	I'm so, that was.
	Yeah.
	That was beautiful.
	That was beautiful.
	That was great.
	It's going right on SoundCloud.
	That exact audio.
	We need to think of a funny nickname, though.
	Someone in my chat called you Adderall Levine.
	What is it?
	Adderall Levine.
	Adderall Levine.
	Oh, that's perfect.
	Adderall Levine.
	I'm going to get that tatted right.
	I'm going to cross this down and get Adderall Levine right there.
	Avril.
	Adderall.
	La Rehab.
	Never mind.
	Avril's a clone, though, now, so she looks different.
	I'm talking about like early 2000s.
	Yeah, yeah, like complicated.
	Yes, like skater boy, all of it.
	All that.
	All that.
	Girlfriend, all of it.
	Your reaction to the video.
	Or no, no, no, not your reaction.
	I mean, have you ever had that where guy's perfect?
	Good looking, funny, treats you well, good personality, but you just didn't feel it.
	In those instances where I didn't feel it, it was only because I was really focused on myself and I wasn't ready to try to focus on someone else.
	Like that has genuinely happened to me before when I was like doing really good personally and I was like, dang, like they would be perfect, but I'm like still happy with myself.
	So I like avoided that to keep my own happiness.
	M-Dog.
	Yeah, I've actually had that before.
	Rest in peace.
	Yeah, that was like my first boyfriend and then it turned out terribly because I went with it even though I didn't feel it.
	Uh-huh.
	Okay.
	Star, what about you?
	No, I've never had that.
	The last guy was all that.
	I liked him.
	But I heard some people have that because they're used to toxicness.
	So when a green flag comes, they get scared.
	Or maybe it's just God didn't.
	It's not meant for them.
	Done it.
	Well, I've been told that maybe you can give me your take on this.
	Speaking of the green flag toxic thing, it's been pointed out to me before that women often, when they are presented with a man who meets all the green flags for the traits they do want, actually reject him because then they can't blame him for anything.
	Do you think there's any truth to that?
	I don't know because I just heard men and women don't like green flags sometimes because they're used to toxicity.
	I don't know about exactly women doing that.
	Okay.
	Mia?
	I think I definitely have had that type of moment where it's like I'm attracted to somebody, they have everything, and then there's something missing.
	And it took me a little longer to realize that it wasn't that something was missing.
	It was more so that I was trying to avoid the perfection or avoid that like that fit.
	And then when I finally allowed it, it was perfect and it worked really well.
	So in that sense of like I tried to avoid it and then I let myself actually enjoy it.
	Do you guys have answers for this?
	Morgan?
	I mean I think yeah it's happened but like I think I can usually like oh sorry end up like realizing like something was off.
	I feel it was off.
	I feel like a lot of girls get scared to get themselves into those type of situations because nobody's ever too perfect and if you're too perfect and you come off like that like up front you obviously like know that there's something there's something wrong that he's hiding.
	Oh your answer.
	Oh I said it seems like it would like what she was saying it seems like kind of like fake at first I guess.
	And most of the times it is.
	Can I add something?
	Sure.
	I think that what it really is is we have a lot of expectations and what we think we want in a man and then when it's presented in front of us we don't really know what to do with it because our perception of what we think we want isn't what we actually want.
	So we have a chat here from Kill of Cereal.
	For everyone, what are your takes on love at first sight?
	Is it a real thing?
	Is love at first sight a real thing?
	I think you can be super attracted to someone at first sight and want to get to know them more, but full-blown love, I think, might take more time.
	I would say love at first sight is real.
	I wouldn't say the one at first sight is real because I fell in love at first sight.
	Love at first sight is definitely real.
	I think it's a spiritual connection.
	It's more than the sight.
	It's like a spiritual bond.
	Yeah, I think attraction at first sight, like a strong attraction is real, but love is something you build.
	So I don't think so.
	I think your take is possible, but some people get it confused with attraction.
	So it's hard to tell.
	I think not necessarily love at first sight, but the opportunity to love at first sight.
	So that attraction can definitely build into love.
	Well, I think when it comes to the reason he's perhaps asking this is if you object to this idea of love at first sight, then how can you also, like if that's preposterous, absurd, then so too should like if you were if you didn't date somebody because you didn't immediately love them, if that was your standard, like in order for me to date this person, I need to have love at first sight.
	He's trying to make, I think, a comparison of if you refuse to like pursue something or date somebody because you either don't feel or don't yet feel the so-called click vibe chemistry, etc.
	Because I'm sure all of you here have dated a guy who you had like insane chemistry with, insane click, insane vibe.
	Where are they now?
	Did it work out?
	Like, was that necessarily a good indicator for this person's going to be a good partner and treat me well?
	I'm sure you all have stories of somebody who had great chemistry with, great vibe, and they actually ended up being – I'm not saying, like, in every instance that you have chemistry or vibe or click, that there's going to be, like, abuse or toxicity.
	But I'm sure you all have experiences where you did have the vibe, chemistry, click, but they ended up being terrible for you because it possibly treated you terribly.
	So I don't think it's a fantastic indicator to go off of like I'm gonna date this person because of the click or I'm not gonna date somebody because they don't have the click.
	I just think how many people date somebody like that and then it just invariably doesn't work out anyway.
	I agree that's very likely.
	I don't deny that that's completely likely.
	If anything, it's just like that arousal of feelings and that height sensation of this is perfect, love at first sight.
	And then we fall for these things and it trickles over and hides the fact of many minor red flags that we probably just wanted to ignore because of it.
	But I think it depends on also is that a sensation that you recognize with those perfections that you hope for.
	If your list includes the perfection of not having, I don't know, lying tendencies, then I don't know, that loving at first sight may be more likely, may be successful, but sometimes we allow that to override.
	Sure.
	We have a chat here from JackB.Nimble.
	Girls, if a man is physically fit, 8 out of 10 looks 6-figure income, owns his own house, no mortgage, but is a functional drug user, i.e. uses recreationally, off and on.
	Do you think he's undateable?
	Yes.
	What drug is it?
	8 out of 10 looks, 6-figure income owns his own house.
	Is that wrong?
	If he's smoking weed, like shrooms, or are we talking about fentanyl?
	What drugs are you doing?
	Cocaine.
	Let's say it's cocaine.
	Cocaine.
	Oh, that's fine.
	No.
	As long as he's taste me, I'm cool.
	Wait, on and off or routinely.
	He uses recreationally off and on.
	Meaning Coke on weekends.
	Is he undateable?
	Uh-huh.
	Recreationally off and on.
	He's asking for himself, maybe.
	I don't know.
	How about heroin?
	He like off and on does heroin.
	Oh, that's a no-go.
	I've dealt with that before.
	Yeah.
	Well, fentanyl, not heroin, but yeah.
	So I'm just putting it together.
	Of course.
	I think it's the level of use and what they're using.
	Like, I think if it's weed and something like very light like that, or maybe like mushrooms every once in a while, something natural, then I wouldn't be as opposed.
	But I think if it's like heroin, then no, it's a deal breaker.
	Well, I mean, I would say like I'm talking more about like casually, casually shooting up heroin once.
	That's not casual.
	Once or twice a week.
	Once or twice is bad.
	Then that's a deal breaker, at least for myself.
	Okay, just check.
	If you switch that to Coke, I think it's fine.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Preferably not, though.
	Meth in that, no.
	Let's see.
	Once or twice is actually.
	How many more Reacts do we have, Nick?
	We have like four.
	Wait, tweets.
	Okay.
	Oh, let's do dating app.
	Is it just for low-cap over here?
	Just her?
	Yeah, she does two.
	Yeah, I see.
	It's safe.
	Did you checked?
	Yeah, I checked.
	Okay, pull it up.
	It's hingeed.
	Okay.
	Whoa.
	Okay.
	Lindsay, together we could get...
	Here, you read the prompt.
	Together we could gaslight and manipulate each other for a few months.
	Heart emoji.
	Nice.
	Okay, next.
	Okay.
	It says I'm 254.
	Next.
	Next.
	Wait, is that you use?
	That's just my instant.
	Wait, go back?
	Are you using Pro Tools or are you like an amateur on like, what's that fruit one?
	I use Logic Pro and Serato.
	You don't use Pro Tools?
	I use Serato.
	What?
	Cam just fucking.
	Okay, next.
	The role of Discord.
	Next.
	The best way to ask me out is by threatening me.
	Is that the last hinge one?
	Or is there maybe one more?
	Next?
	It's just a gym pick.
	Confidence is key, remember?
	Is there another one?
	Hinge one?
	That's my.
	Yeah.
	So wait, there's the threatening me.
	The best way to ask you out is to threaten you.
	So like, would it go something like this?
	Pulls out a gun.
	You fucking better go on a date with me, bitch.
	No, it's like, I'm trying to get it so it's interactive so I could see if someone matches my humor.
	Like they respond with something like, tell me a time.
	Like, okay, we're going to dinner at this time.
	I don't know.
	It's just to start, like, a conversation.
	So would it be...
	It's not, like, actually threaten me.
	It's like if you get the joke, you get the joke and we're together, you know?
	Yeah.
	Of course.
	So would it be something like, like, if you don't go on a date with me, I will rain down on a godly fucking firestorm upon you.
	You're going to have to call the fucking United Nations and get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you.
	I am talking scorched earth, motherfucker.
	I will massacre you.
	I will fuck you up.
	Like, is that the kind of threat that you're talking about?
	No.
	It's not.
	I don't want to be threatened.
	It's too much.
	She's fucking cutesy.
	It's cute.
	It's like, threaten me.
	It's too much.
	Oh, that thing is.
	Wait, can somebody explain the demure thing to me?
	I don't get it either.
	What is the...
	It's this creator named Jules on TikTok.
	And she just made like a funny video kind of making fun of her own life experience where she got like a job at like a restaurant or a retail store or something.
	And she's just making fun of herself.
	going like, see how I come to work, ladies?
	And it's just funny.
	Brett Cooper on the Daily Wire talked about, she said, Brad Summer's over.
	Demure season.
	Yes, I love her.
	All right.
	I love her.
	And what was the first one?
	Gaslight Each Other for a couple.
	Gaslight and manipulate each other for a few months.
	Because people on dating apps sometimes are like weird, you know?
	So it's just like, together we could do this.
	Like have a toxic relationship, basically.
	Have you ever manipulated a guy?
	Mm-hmm.
	How?
	And a girl.
	How?
	More.
	More of the girls.
	You manipulate the girls more.
	I don't try to.
	I'm so sweet.
	I'm so sweet.
	Like, I'm like a pay-for-dinner.
	Like, let's go on a fun.
	That's my last one.
	She's a certified lover girl.
	I'm literally the.
	I love Drake.
	But no, I have, but it's also because I was unconfident when I did so.
	Did you hit it and quit it with the chicks?
	Somebody went to my roommate's room and goes, is she actually going to text me in the morning?
	And then my roommate goes, don't count on it.
	Brutal.
	Yeah.
	But I'm so sweet.
	Can you read this, Maddie?
	Exactly.
	Thank you, Brian.
	Seems like love, a facade on the surface.
	True colors are shown in the most unlikely of instances.
	Lusting after others instead of truly loving one.
	Flesh instead of heart.
	That was beautiful.
	Killer of cereal.
	Thank you.
	Are you on the Discord killer?
	Let me get.
	I need to get you a special role on the Discord.
	Send me a DM on Discord if you are.
	If you already are, sorry, I'm like, I have hundreds of DMs on IG, hundreds of DMs on Discord, so it's hard to keep track of everybody.
	Next dating app?
	Oh, there are just pictures, actually.
	We'll go through it.
	We'll see how degenerate it is.
	Whose is it?
	See how strumpet, how strumpet.
	I haven't been saying strumpet recently.
	Still yours.
	You're the only one.
	I need to reintroduce strumpet again, strumpet.
	I'm the only one here with the dating app.
	Yes.
	At least who's willing to admit it?
	Oh, okay.
	Let's blush.
	Okay.
	Give me a reason to put my eyeliner on.
	Okay.
	Damn.
	That's my eyebrows.
	I've rolled a train over.
	Sorry.
	Okay, next.
	Next.
	Next.
	That's my room.
	Is that it?
	That's not.
	There you go.
	Duality.
	Okay, good song.
	Cool.
	Is that it?
	Okay, cool.
	You can close all those out.
	What do we rate it?
	That was great.
	10 out of 10 on the DGen.
	On the who? D-Gen scale.
	Okay.
	I feel like 10 on the authenticity scale.
	Swiping.
	Oh, no one.
	You're going to get an e-boy who paints his nails black.
	You don't want a boy.
	If I get boys, I do that in person when I go out to clubs and stuff.
	But my thing's only set to girls.
	Oh, you only did the girls on the dating app?
	Only on dating apps, but I'll go for guys in person.
	Okay.
	That's cool.
	That's dope.
	That's great.
	Proud of you.
	You're killing it.
	Killing the game out here.
	You're doing wonderful.
	Cereal, like killer cereal on the audio.
	You're on his level.
	Exactly.
	Let's see.
	Let's do one more react and then I'll get back to pre-show notes.
	So what do we got next?
	What do we got next here?
	The YouTube short.
	Sure, we'll pull that up.
	That's fine.
	Before you play it, so do you guys think that?
	Here's the context.
	Maybe a bit of context here.
	Do you guys think that it would be nice if I've heard this complaint from a lot of women if guys came up to you in person?
	Like not sliding into the DMs, not on dating apps.
	Like you want a guy to come up to you at Trader Joe's.
	Because I've heard a complaint from a lot of women, especially some older women who have had the experience of like pre-dating app, pre-social media a little bit, where it's like, yeah, guys used to come up to me way more.
	Now it's more rare, less common.
	So would you guys like that for guys to approach you in person?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	No.
	I've had people do it and I'm just not really a fan.
	Yeah.
	You want them to like slide into the DMs, be like, how many fancy seafood dinners for you to be my bedroom acrobat for years?
	Is like that what you want?
	No, I mean, I have to do it.
	That's my good thing.
	My thing is I'm usually in a relationship, so I would just like to have a ring and not have anyone talk to me in person.
	Well, if you're obviously dating somebody, but if you're single.
	I still don't want people coming up to me in person.
	Well, hey, that's fair.
	That's fair.
	I feel like it just can be really awkward.
	Going around the table, though, do you want a guy?
	You'd prefer a guy to come up to you in person.
	A guy came up.
	A guy comes up to me.
	Not the question.
	Not the question.
	Yes, I would.
	I know what happened.
	She has a story every time.
	Too many.
	What you got, yeah?
	Yes.
	Maddie, if you were single?
	Or you prefer a guy to slide into the DMs and say something like, I would drag my balls through 1,000 miles of broken glass shards just to hear you fart through walkie-talkie.
	That's the energy.
	That's the go-to pickup line on Instagram.
	Okay, what about you, Star?
	In person or slide into the DMs dating app?
	The cute ones in person.
	Because the other ones have the wary ones in the city.
	I have more confidence and they always come up to me in person.
	I'm like, I'm sorry, and I feel bad.
	But the cute ones are in the DMs.
	M-Dog?
	I love that.
	Definitely in person.
	I do not like online.
	Also, M-Dog?
	Yeah, in person, yeah.
	A dog.
	Yeah, if I was single, but if she was single.
	And meeting in person is better because it's organic.
	Organic.
	Organic.
	She goes to Whole Foods for her organic.
	I actually only do eat organic.
	I'm proud of you.
	That's good.
	That's healthy.
	You got to stay healthy.
	Seed oil-free.
	How much do you squat and bench and deadlift?
	Asking me.
	I can make it.
	Clern.
	Clean and what is it?
	Jerk and clean?
	What the fuck?
	I haven't done that shit since high school.
	No, it's called the.
	I know.
	Weight one.
	Jerk and clean?
	Yeah.
	Or is it clean and jerk?
	That's a good way to lose weight.
	What's it called?
	Jerk and clean.
	Is that what it's called?
	I just want to say jerk.
	Clean is this part of the business.
	And then this is the.
	I have not done this since the Obama.
	No.
	It was the Bush administration.
	I have not done a clean and jerk since the Bush administration.
	Okay, well, you were talking about wanting to lose weight.
	That's part of how I've lost weight is weightlifting.
	Not that lifts.
	No, I don't think you're talking about it.
	I was talking specifically.
	Oh, you're talking about lifting weights.
	I was asking for her PRs and shit.
	I can give you PRs.
	Squat PR, 225.
	Hip thrust, 425.
	Bench, 135.
	That's about body weight, too.
	And I think that's kind of all.
	Yeah.
	That's good.
	Look at the tricep.
	It's there.
	It's there.
	Show it.
	Well, I'm trying to.
	I'm a little shove you right there last night.
	Wow.
	The fuck we were talking about?
	I totally forgot.
	Sorry, guys, I'm tired tonight.
	A guy approaching.
	Oh, that's a YouTube short.
	Okay, all right.
	Wait, so what did I even ask?
	You asked.
	Sorry, guys, I got no sleep last night.
	Approach or online.
	Oh, right.
	So, yeah, okay.
	A lot of girls say I'd like guys to start approaching in person.
	Let's see how that goes.
	I think the guys are just awkward sometimes.
	So here's a guy who's going to approach.
	Are you guys going out tonight?
	Yeah.
	I give a disposable camera and pause it.
	Pause it.
	Okay.
	I wonder if there's a way to find the original video and see like the big version of it.
	Bro.
	Look, they didn't say like, get the fuck out of here.
	But like, girls are not super warm if you approach them.
	Like, she had, I have a boyfriend.
	Like, she was about to say that.
	Boyfriend.
	Got a boyfriend.
	She's about to drop that shit.
	Isn't that how you are supposed to act when you do have a boyfriend, though?
	Not immediately.
	Nah, but girls got that shit in the pocket, even if they don't have a boyfriend.
	Like, get them online.
	Like, they're like one step away from just like pushing your face away.
	Just like, get the fuck out of my business, son.
	So, bro, actually, wait.
	Oh, there's another clip.
	I think it's his approach also.
	Like, obviously, they're just not warm in general, but that's how girls are.
	Are you going to go pretty good going out tonight?
	But girls are, like, never warm.
	But, like, he's also going to a group of girls.
	Like, you're not even in 71.
	Yeah, a guy hit on me and my friend next to each other.
	He came up to both of us.
	I said no to giving my Instagram, and then my friend right next to me goes, Can I get yours?
	There's nothing wrong.
	I don't think they're.
	Wait, ladies, is there anything wrong with that?
	Yes.
	I don't think they're.
	No, no, no, no.
	I don't think there's anything wrong to like do the switch.
	I don't think there's nothing wrong to do the switch.
	If you go up to a girl and she's with her friend and you shoot your shot and she turns you down.
	But it's like the second option.
	Then my friend felt like the second option.
	I'd be like, if they're like, yes, then it's like in the back of their head.
	I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
	Hey, he shot a shot twice.
	That's confidence.
	See, that's attractive.
	But like I think the switch switch off is fair game.
	Yeah, it's confidence, but you don't like it, right?
	Ava, could you or Maddie, could you read this one?
	I could bench all of you at once.
	Just stack you all up on a pallet and give it a warm-up in.
	I want to re-evaluate this super chat.
	My pecs would be.
	Yeah, because there's like nine people at the table, you know?
	Like there's nine people.
	That's a lot of people.
	Like, oh no, like nine people.
	Like, I'm kind of chubby, Matt.
	I don't think you can do me.
	Like in a bench press.
	Too strong.
	How much do you weigh?
	Don't worry about it.
	Okay.
	Did we read the rest of it?
	Hello?
	Nah.
	What was the rest of it?
	I thought we said we were going to re-evaluate.
	Hey, girl.
	What?
	No, no.
	It was just my pecs would be so taught you could bounce a silver dollar off them.
	What the fuck?
	What the fuck?
	Hey, girl, what is your true religion?
	Is it because of my shirt?
	Oh.
	Oh, maybe.
	But what does it mean?
	It's a like.
	What does that mean?
	I think it has to do with my shirt.
	I don't know, but we know star, you're a Christian, right?
	Yeah.
	Andrew was actually, he sent me a text.
	He said he was really curious what your denomination is.
	I don't know what that means.
	I'm new to this kind of.
	Do you attend a church?
	Yeah, I go to Evergreen.
	Okay.
	Just normal Christian.
	I don't know.
	Okay, good times.
	Wait, can I say something?
	Yeah, okay, go ahead.
	I'm a Christian too, and I do want to let you know, okay?
	All right.
	I was never taught that there are other kinds of Christian or like whatever they're talking about.
	It was always just, oh, like you are a Christian, so I feel what you feel.
	Okay.
	I mean, there's also just churches that are non-denominational.
	Can someone explain that to me?
	In Judaism, there's different Chabad.
	There's distinctions in theology between Christians.
	There's Christian sides.
	There's the same things.
	So, for instance, some Christians believe, well, almost all Christians believe in the Trinity, but there are sects that call themselves Christians who are Unitarians.
	They don't believe that Jesus Christ is God, but just think he was the Son of God, etc., etc.
	There's Mormons who believe that Joseph Smith came and was a prophet.
	There's Jehovah's Witnesses who have a completely different doctrine.
	Though I wouldn't even call those Christian sects, but even within kind of mainstream Christianity, you have Calvinists who believe in predetermination.
	And yeah, so there's distinctions in theology.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, I'm not Jehovah's Witness or Jewish.
	There's more than 20% of the world.
	I always believe just like a few.
	Well, Jewish wouldn't be Christian definitionally.
	That's a whole different religion altogether.
	I'm talking about just people who identify as being Christians.
	So Andrew's an Orthodox Christian.
	It seems like you're open-minded, though, when it comes to Christianity.
	Would you go to a liturgy with Andrew?
	Oh, what?
	What's a liturgy?
	I'm not even, I don't even.
	I just know words.
	Well, you've there's there's a distinction between how Orthodox Christianity and Catholic Christianity, which is which is the original.
	We fight amongst ourselves about which was the original, right?
	Orthodox was.
	But there's a distinct way in which worship occurs there that is completely different than probably what you're used to.
	I'm guessing you go into a building, you sing some songs and flap your hands around, and then a guy comes up and he preaches for a while, then you flap your hands around a little bit more, and then you leave, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's totally so that's totally different, 100% different than how Christians actually worship.
	So that's called Protestantism.
	It's a whole different form of bad thing.
	Wait, so singing to God is bad?
	Wait, hold on.
	It's just a different field.
	It's just the presence of it.
	Well, no, God wants to be worshipped a certain way.
	Wait, question.
	For instance, you have to acknowledge he's God.
	So if you acknowledge he's God, then you would already be worshiping him a certain way, right?
	Yeah, well, in Psalm it says to sing to God, too.
	Sure, but are there distinct ways that God asks you to pray to him and how God asks you to conduct yourself in church and how God asks you to do things?
	Like, for instance, inside Protestant churches, there's often female preachers.
	Female preachers are not allowed inside of traditional Christianity, period.
	So there's lots of distinctions that are like this.
	Wait, female creatures?
	What do you mean?
	Preachers?
	Preachers, preachers, preachers.
	So you're Filipino and Italian.
	And Native American.
	Yeah.
	Aren't those Filipino and Catholic?
	Italian or Catholic, typically.
	Yeah, well, my parents are just Christian.
	Like, we didn't hear about any of the different ones.
	I was just raised Christian, but I didn't feel like faith or the presence of God until like two months ago.
	And then I...
	You should...
	Wait.
	Andrew, do you think she should explore, like, just cut through the BS and just explore Orthodox Christianity?
	Or?
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry, Brian.
	Say that real quick.
	You cut out a little bit.
	Do you think she should just rip off the band-aid, jump into the pool, like cut out all the kind of like heresy churches and go straight to the corner?
	I would go check out an Orthodox church.
	Yeah.
	Orthodox.
	If you want to experience what real Christianity always was, yeah, I would go check that out for sure.
	It'll open up a whole different window in your spiritual journey.
	Does it help you feel the fruit of the Spirit?
	Well, yeah, we would have different definitions and different ways in which we would describe what that means, though.
	When you say fruit of the spirit, this is not, we can't look at these as being kind of subjective metrics, right?
	There's objective ways to determine what are fruits of the Spirit.
	So you can't just be like, well, you have the Holy Spirit.
	Like, here, I'll give you an example of this.
	If you read the Bible and you think it says one thing, and somebody else reads the Bible and thinks it says another thing, how do you know you're right?
	I mean, I think that's just the Holy Spirit that you feel inside.
	But I'm always open-minded.
	If they say they have the Holy Spirit and you say you have the Holy Spirit, who's right?
	I don't really care about who's right.
	I read the Bible myself, and I also interpret it the way I, you know.
	Yeah, that's called exegesis.
	So exegesis is you read the Bible and you have the Holy Spirit.
	The Holy Spirit is speaking through you as you interpret what the passage means.
	And somebody else who's next to you, he also has the Holy Spirit and he interprets it to mean something else.
	How do you determine which one of you is correct?
	How do you know that you're not wrong and he's not right?
	I guess you don't.
	I'm always okay with being wrong.
	But there is a way that you can.
	If your religion, I mean, kept you in God's presence, why do you practice variance every day?
	It seems like a fleshly thing rather than living in the spirit, which is, you know, trying to live with love, joy, happiness, self-control, and all those things and being nice to people, but you argue with people.
	Well, no, no, no.
	Christianity is about mastering the passions.
	There's a time and a place.
	There's a time and a place for passions, but you're not supposed to live inside of passions.
	Not at all.
	That's antithetical to Christian ethics, is to live inside your passions.
	Just about living in the spirit.
	What's that?
	It's about living in the spirit and not in flesh.
	Yeah, but what does that mean?
	Galatians 5, about living in the spirit.
	There's a whole thing about the word.
	Yeah, but what does that mean, though?
	Like, how would you instruct somebody to do that?
	Well, you would see the part where it says that is the flesh, which is sexual impurity, wrath, variance.
	Like, all the.
	Yeah, but 500 different people read that and come away with 500 different interpretations.
	How do you know which one's right?
	How do you know who's correct?
	That's the big problem, right?
	Well, are you saying that you're correct?
	Because I'm not saying that I'm completely correct.
	I'm saying that I'm still learning.
	But you actually, we have what's called apostolic succession, which goes all the way back to the original apostles of Jesus Christ from the church with an unchanging tradition.
	And by the way, my church were the ones who put the Bible together.
	We were the ones who put it together.
	Put the entire Bible together?
	That was us.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I'm not even trying to argue with you.
	I'm just trying to express.
	W originators.
	This is why there's different denominations and why I think that these questions are important.
	I think the questions are important because just saying, well, I can read the book and I know what it means and it means what it says.
	Everybody else who reads it says the exact same thing.
	And there has to be some way to determine what's correct and what isn't.
	I mean, I definitely want to learn theology, but yeah.
	I think being loving is important, and I don't feel a lot of love in your spirit, Andrew.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm sorry.
	Have I done something to you?
	No, it's your spirit.
	What does that mean?
	You can judge my spirit.
	I have no idea.
	By what capacity can you judge somebody's spirit?
	If you don't know that in your heart, I can't explain it to you.
	Uh-oh, okay.
	So you know my spirit and you can judge it through a screen based on a couple of minutes of exchange?
	I can judge your energy.
	Yes.
	Oh, you can judge my energy.
	Is that a Christian tenet?
	Judging people's energy, or is that a satanic tenant?
	It's not satanic.
	Everything is spirit and energy.
	Everything is spirit energy.
	Where can I find that?
	Is that in the book of You Just Made It the Fuck Up?
	Was it chapter 4, 5?
	Like, where can I find this in the Bible?
	They everything is spirit energy and then I can learn how to judge it.
	Isn't that heresy?
	Total heresy.
	But go ahead, tell me where it is.
	I just don't feel the Holy Spirit in you.
	I feel variance, and I refuse to.
	Why would I listen to the determination if somebody doesn't feel the Holy Spirit coming off of me when they just got done explaining to me a heresy?
	A literal heresy that you judge people based on energy that's coming off of them.
	By the way, does your church have a female pastor?
	We don't.
	I mean, I know it does.
	Yeah, it does.
	I just looked it up.
	I'm looking at her name right now.
	Do you want her name?
	Why'd you just lie?
	Is that a Christian tenant?
	I've never seen a female pastor.
	Never once, huh?
	Not that I've been.
	I've only been a few times.
	Okay.
	I'm new to this church, but I like it.
	But I don't care to argue with you much longer.
	Yeah, no, but I care to argue with you.
	I mean, now we're in the discussion.
	You just said that I have no Holy Spirit, right?
	So, and I don't know what you're judging this metric by.
	Can you tell me, though, now that you know that there's a female pastor there, are you going to stay there?
	Because, I mean, clearly that's a heresy, at least, right?
	Or no?
	I'd have to figure that out and judge it myself.
	But I'm not Orthodox like you.
	I don't think she's worth it.
	Yeah, even Protestants don't believe that there's supposed to be female pastors.
	But also, I mean, it also says that women should be submissive.
	And another pastor said that that was written back in a time where people were more misogynistic, and people weren't treating women way worse back then.
	And he believes that men and women should put each other first and submit to each other.
	And I think that's true love, is putting the other person first.
	So everyone has their own opinion.
	And I respect that.
	How do we judge what is real Christianity?
	It's just how we feel.
	Like, can I worship the devil and be a real Christian?
	Can I worship the devil and be a real Christian?
	What would make me not a real Christian if I said, I worship the devil, but I'm also a Christian?
	What would make me not a Christian?
	Is there any criteria you could apply to that?
	Like any?
	Well, I don't worship the devil.
	Yeah, I know, but that's not my question.
	My question is: if a person told you they worship the devil, but they're a Christian, what criteria would you apply that they're not as a Catholic?
	I would say, well, that doesn't align to my opinion.
	Let her answer.
	Let her answer.
	What criteria would I judge if someone's Christian or not?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I can't judge people because people say they're Christian, but then they have premarital sex or they do a lot of sins and they don't actually follow the Bible.
	But at the end of the day, it sounds like you're judging them.
	Huh?
	Well, you're making an assessment, right?
	You're making a value assessment.
	You're saying things which Christians aren't supposed to do, right?
	What?
	That's what you're doing.
	That's a judgment.
	Well, same with you.
	You're saying in the Bible.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I agree.
	All the time I judge what people are doing, whether or not it's part of Christian ethics or not.
	And I think all Christians are supposed to do that.
	We're supposed to judge based on Christian ethics.
	That's how we know what we should do, what we shouldn't do.
	And if people are doing what they should be doing or not doing, right?
	That's how we know that.
	So I'm just asking, what is the standard for which you would even use to apply to tell a person who said that they worship the devil and were a Christian?
	Would you even tell them that they weren't?
	Would you be like, no, you're not?
	You can't worship the devil and be, would you even say that to them?
	Well, yes, for worshiping the devil.
	Well, didn't you judge?
	To an extent, I guess.
	Yeah.
	What's wrong with that?
	Is there anything wrong with judgment?
	I think when you're being mean about it, yes.
	Oh, mean.
	You are mean.
	Is that in the first book of Nice, chapter four?
	And I find that, is that in between Corinthians and Timothy?
	Is it the book of Nice?
	It's okay, Andrew.
	I have nothing but love for you, and I don't wish to be afraid of you.
	You sound like you have nothing but love for me.
	Well, you should probably end this the best Protestant way and just say, I'll pray for you.
	Just say, I'll pray for you.
	I mean, we know that that actually means fuck you, but you could say, I'll pray for you.
	It's okay.
	I genuinely will pray for you.
	I'm sure you will.
	I'm sure you will pray for me.
	Okay.
	Wait, and just like curious, like, I know you have, you feel your way or whatever, Andrew.
	But the stoic Roman donated $200.
	Thank you, bro.
	Andrew.
	As a former Mormon, Joseph Smith was the first prophet since the apostles.
	But first and foremost, the Lord Jesus is our Savior and Redeemer.
	No, Joseph Smith was not a prophet, right?
	There are no prophets after Jesus Christ.
	There's none.
	That's how you know that the Mormon church is a great heresy.
	There are no prophets.
	All right.
	Thank you, the Stoic Roman.
	Like, what you had your, like, you didn't feel.
	What did you not feel with Andrew?
	What was it?
	How was the phrasing?
	What?
	Like, you said like.
	She said that you have.
	You got bad vibes from Andrew?
	He doesn't give off the loving energy I'm used to with Christians.
	Oh.
	And like, what about for me?
	Like, am I kind of like giving off that like dark, sinister, toxic vibe that Andrew's giving off?
	A little bit, but not as bad.
	Not as bad, like.
	Can I just ask two quick follow-up questions?
	I'm not even going to debate with you.
	I'm just curious from your worldview.
	Do you think that it's okay to be LGBTQ and Christian?
	Do you think that these are okay to put together that it's okay to be LGBTQ and Christian?
	I don't think I have to answer that because I don't want to feel that.
	I have love for everybody.
	Yeah, I know, but that's not my question.
	I'm just asking.
	Okay, and I said I'm not answering your question.
	I'm sorry, aren't you supposed to defend all arguments and defend your faith against all people who oppose anything that has to do with Christian?
	That's your job, right?
	It's to oppose that.
	You can't speak the truth of your faith?
	Really?
	Is it compatible with Christianity or not?
	Can I say something?
	I'd like her to answer the question.
	Is it compatible with Christianity or isn't it?
	I know it's hard for men to take no for an answer, but I know it's hard for women to answer questions so they evade constantly, but I'd like for you to actually answer the question.
	Well, you're not going to get an answer because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
	And that's up for God to judge, not me.
	So I'm not answering further than that, Andrew.
	You make judgments all the time.
	You just already expressed that you did.
	I mean, I don't know why somebody can't make you.
	I'm going to get $200.
	Bet Pinky would accuse John the Baptist of not having a loving energy if she read anything that he said, and it's in the Bible.
	Well, or Paul, for that matter.
	But the thing is, is okay, then I just have one more then.
	You don't have to answer this, obviously.
	You're not going to probably answer anything.
	So we got female pastors.
	That's, you're not sure on that.
	LGBTQ, you won't give us an answer on if that's compatible with Christianity.
	What if a person does not believe that Jesus Christ is God, but just the Son of God?
	Is that Christianity?
	That's not what we believe at our church and what I understand of the Bible.
	No.
	It's a Trinity.
	The Trinity.
	Okay, but don't you think that that's going to hurt the feelings of the people who don't believe in the Trinity?
	Like the Jehovah's Witnesses?
	Well, I even think, I think Jehovah's Witnesses might even be Trinitarians.
	I'm not sure, but the people who are Unitarians who don't believe in the Trinity, isn't that going to hurt their feelings that you just said that?
	It's not my intentions to hurt anyone's feelings.
	Well, I know.
	So now that we've established that you can answer those questions, what about LGBTQ?
	Is that Christian?
	I think that would hurt people's feelings more, so I'm not going to answer it.
	Okay.
	Oh, by the way, guys, by the way, moving on to a different topic.
	One sec.
	I just occurred to me we had.
	Oh.
	Giovanni Jade, you donated $200.
	Yeah, thank you, Giovanni.
	Don't mean this to be rude, but Christianity absent the Eucharist is like at whatever without Brian's BLM to pitch.
	Start there.
	Also, JW are not Trinitarians.
	They're not even baseline Christian.
	Yeah, they corrected me on that.
	Well, they didn't correct me because I said I didn't know for sure.
	But yeah, that's my understanding, too, is that they're Unitarians or something, some variant thereof.
	Giovanni, thank you very much for the TTS, man.
	Good to see you back in the chat.
	Hope your Tuesday is going well.
	Oh, so the literally shaking rage quit from earlier, we're going to make that available for your viewing pleasure either tonight or tomorrow, discord.gg slash whatever.
	And Nick, if you're able to get the BTS tab pulled up over there on our Discord.
	So this is our Discord, discord.gg slash whatever.
	Guys, we've got over 7,000 members.
	Help us get to 10,000 members.
	So I'm going to post it in the behind the scenes portion.
	And then the most recent one that we posted, we're going to be posting a bunch more stuff.
	I've got a backlog of like some BTS, like kickouts or whatever.
	This is Desiree when she attacked Andrew.
	I don't know if you guys haven't heard of that or haven't seen it.
	Desiree attacked Andrew with her Derier.
	It was very disturbing.
	Andrew actually told me he's never done therapy before, but he actually has gone to therapy to seek coping strategies for the assault, the attack.
	So best wishes and prayers to Andrew's recovery from the assault.
	Discord.gg slash whatever.
	There was a literally shaking rage.
	Pray for me.
	I'll pray for you, Andrew.
	Prayer.
	What is it?
	What did the people say?
	Bless your heart.
	No, they say like pray for you.
	I'll pray for you.
	Whenever you're in an argument with a Christian, right?
	Or somebody who's identifying as a Christian, usually Protestants, and they say, when you're arguing and they're wrong or something like this, I'll pray for you.
	That usually just means fuck you.
	That's usually what it means.
	The argument's over and fuck you.
	That's usually what they mean by that.
	Does he have any info about like deliverance like she had discussed earlier?
	Let's move on.
	Was that what you wanted to?
	I just was wondering if I'd.
	Okay, I got to move it on.
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	We have Shannon.
	Shannon, you said you're, okay.
	Hold on.
	Dating apps complicate, but also help current dating.
	Having a dating roster talking to multiple men at once while dating as a woman is a good thing.
	I think that a lot of men date multiple women at once and that women should also probably be dating multiple men at once.
	I think having a roster that you're not sleeping with is probably a good thing when you are dating, just to kind of have different options, I guess, and just kind of like see who you're a best fit with, but also to not waste your own time.
	Okay.
	Who do you think has the ability to be dating multiple people?
	Like who has a better ability to do that, men or women?
	Because you said, well, a lot of guys do this.
	Ergo, women should do it too, because men do it.
	I think it's only fair that both do it.
	I mean, in the talking stages in the dating world, I think that some people only talk to one person at a time, but I think majority of people who are looking for a long-term relationship, they go on dates with multiple people at the same time to kind of feel it out.
	Now, you said it's only fair if both do it.
	Is it going back to the previous discussion?
	Is it only fair that women pay for dates or pay for themselves on dates, excuse me?
	If a woman wants to pay for herself on a date, she can, but I don't think that's the norm.
	Why not?
	Because of what I said before, there's chivalry.
	A lot of men still want to, at least for the first couple dates, pay to show romantic interest.
	No, none of them anymore want to pay for dates.
	They don't want to do that anymore.
	Well, then they're probably not getting second or third dates.
	So, well then, well, then it's not really a matter of, because you kind of frame this like, I'm doing this big favor to them by allowing them to embrace their chivalrous nature and pay for my date.
	Wow, how nice of me to do that for them.
	But as it turns out, that's not really the case.
	The case is that you just want him to pay for the date, right?
	That's actually what the case is.
	I think because it shows romantic interest.
	I think a lot of women, if a man doesn't pay for the first or second date, they think, oh, maybe this guy is just interested in being friends.
	Or they see down the line, oh, we're going to be going 50-50 on everything if I'm already paying 50-50 for a first date.
	Or if I'm paying fully for the first date, then what makes me think this man's not gold digging after me?
	Yeah, but I mean, if he's going 50-50 with you, I don't understand what's the actual problem with that.
	On the first couple dates, I think a lot of women, it's kind of like guys are keeping it safe.
	Like, oh, I don't want to spend all this money on this girl.
	But you know that if they were with like their dream woman, then they would have usually no problem paying the entire thing.
	So it's kind of showing.
	Well, can't you just reverse the logic there and say, okay, if you're with your dream man, you'd have no problem paying for everything?
	Personally, my dream man would not have me paying for everything.
	Yeah, but that's beside the point, right?
	So I understand that's not your preference, but couldn't the logic itself be applied the same way?
	So if you say the type of man, my dream guy, the dream guy, is going to pay for everything, wouldn't the reverse of that for the man be, okay, the dream girl pays for everything?
	Wouldn't that be the same standard apply?
	Sure.
	If that's what their dream woman does, then that's their dream woman.
	You can't argue that.
	So how is the idea that you want them to pay for the meal anything short of entitlement?
	I don't think it's entitled.
	I think that, what is he doing?
	I'm sorry. I think. I'm sorry.
	I think that's just kind of how our society has normally been, that men show chivalry through these acts of whether it be holding.
	You can't get not all of it, but I think at the very beginning of dating, there is the courting phase where a man should bring flowers, should hold the doors open, and pay for the date.
	Wait, what does the woman do?
	Just show up.
	Yes, I was going to say, what should women do then?
	You should show up looking your best and prepared for the date.
	And I would hope that.
	So nothing.
	So the expectation is that we put on makeup and show up.
	That's really the expectation.
	It's pretty expensive.
	Oh, boy.
	Do we have to do the math on this?
	Wait, is that the justification, though?
	Is this just like a summary of the podcast?
	What is?
	What this person dragging against somebody who would never have a chance with any of this anyway?
	We'll pull it up later.
	Disregard.
	No, I think that women go into dates with the expectation, some women, of that I want this to be a long-term committed relationship.
	And I think a guy, even having a woman, give them the courtesy of going on a date with them when so many women are nervous and afraid to go out one-on-one on dates with men.
	Like, yeah, I think.
	So it's a privilege.
	It's a privilege to pay for your date.
	It's a privilege.
	Yeah, I think it's a privilege to be seen out in public with a woman you find attractive.
	Wait, so it's not that women are privileged and that you're privileged because you have the expectation that men will pay for the dates they go on.
	It's actually that men are privileged because they're allowed to take you on a date.
	They should be crazy bitches.
	To even back in the day, to even like be on a date with a woman, you had to usually ask her father and have a good job and already have some type of like thing you could provide to her to even get away from that.
	That's an appeal.
	You're just appealing to history, right?
	That is not the day we live in.
	That is not the age we live in.
	Some people like that.
	We don't have to ask women's fathers to take them on dates.
	Some do, though, and there's some people who are still old-fashioned in that sense.
	Yeah, but there's expectations that came with that.
	So, for instance, the expectation for chivalry, you can't just give the one side of the coin and say, well, once upon a time, men were very chivalrous and they were only, you know, when they would take us on dates, they'd pay for everything.
	They would bring us flowers, et cetera, et cetera.
	That's all true.
	But what about the other side of the coin, which was the women's responsibility?
	Like, oh, here's one.
	You only date one guy at a time, right?
	You're not dating any other guy while you're dating one guy.
	That would be a responsibility that the woman had.
	They're always on time.
	They're always presentable.
	Also, they're good company.
	That would have been a requirement for them as well.
	None of those requirements for women now.
	Why would any of those be requirements for men?
	I mean, for some men, having a woman who's good company is a requirement.
	And those women who don't bring that to the table for that particular guy also don't get second or third dates.
	Yeah, but your expectation isn't that just traditional men pay for the dates.
	The expectation would be non-traditional men also pay for the dates, right?
	If you're a non-traditional man, then you wouldn't necessarily pay for the date.
	That makes sense.
	But most traditional men would pay for a first date.
	And is that what you're after as a traditional man?
	I'm kind of in the middle because I'm not planning to be a stay-at-home mom, so I don't need someone who's a full-blown provider.
	Why do they pay for the date?
	I don't get why.
	What are they paying for the date for the moment?
	They value traditional men.
	They value that a woman is out being their company and they enjoy the company.
	Do you think that when men were chivalrously paying for everything for women that they would have the expectation that the women would be virgins?
	Probably back in the day, yeah.
	Yeah, and do you think that they can have any such expectation now?
	Some men, yeah.
	Some men do want women who are virgins.
	But do you think that they can have the expectation that almost any woman they go on a date with is actually going to be a virgin in this day and age?
	They could ask beforehand or they could get to know them.
	But that's not my question.
	My question is, do you think that most men would have the expectation that basically any woman they went on a date with would be a virgin?
	I think it depends on how they met the woman.
	If it's off of a random dating app, then perhaps...
	Wait, I just got to come in on that.
	But do random women on dating apps have the expectation that men should pay for first dates?
	Usually, yeah, I think so.
	Yeah.
	But just because a woman is not a virgin doesn't mean you don't pay for the first date.
	Yeah, but here's the thing.
	So all you're doing is saying that men should have this holdover responsibility of chivalry from a bygone era where they had the expectation that the women that they were with were only dating them and also were virgins.
	Don't you think that that's kind of a raw end of the deal for men now?
	Well, men nowadays can, you know, it's legal to go 50-50 or have a woman pay on a first date.
	It's not illegal.
	It's just preferences.
	It never was.
	Yeah, it's just preferences.
	So, sure, men back in the day wanted to go and pay for everything for specifically a virgin.
	And now the goalpost has shifted where men want to go on dates with women and they may or may not be virgins, but it's kind of an odd thing to ask before.
	Almost none of them are going.
	Well, wait, almost none of them are going to be.
	Almost none.
	Okay, then they should hold out for someone who is if that's what they want.
	Right, but why so basically if a woman or if a man would have the preference of a very low body counter virgin woman and goes out on any date with a woman who isn't that, why the hell would he pay for everything?
	That just makes no sense.
	Then he wouldn't, and that's not the girl for him.
	So I understand him wanting to go 50-50, but also there wouldn't be a first date.
	Like, I think if you have these sort of, not rule breakers, but like dating non-negotiables, then that's something that you should probably put in the talking stage before you go on a physical date with that person and spend your hard-earned money.
	Yeah, but why should there be an expectation of a woman is not traditional?
	She slept with like many, many men, for instance.
	Okay.
	Or any number of these non-traditional traits that modern women have.
	Why should they have any expectation to have any sort of traditionalism out of a man, like paying for dates, opening doors, and chivalry?
	I don't even understand.
	How is that anything other than entitlement?
	I'm not going to do any of the expectations for the things that women used to do for this chivalry, but I still want the chivalry.
	Can you explain how that's not actually entitlement?
	I guess it's just to each their own.
	Like, I would expect a man to not be a virgin, but I would expect, yeah, a man to not be a virgin, but still be wanting to pay on a first date.
	So why myself going on a first date potentially as a non-virgin would I expect a man to not want to pay?
	I mean, if you're not a virgin and he's not a virgin, I still don't understand why he's paying here.
	Because men value having a woman to go out with.
	If he didn't want to pay, he didn't want to be there, he wouldn't ask the person on the date in the first place.
	Well, that's bizarre.
	You wouldn't accept, I would hope, if you didn't want to be there and didn't want to go with him, unless it was just for the purpose of getting like a free dinner out of it.
	No, I don't think most women are going on.
	Well, then if it's not, if you're not going to get free shit, then you're there for the same reason he's there, right?
	No, I'm there to see if there's potential for a long-term relationship.
	I think a lot of...
	Is there something he's there for?
	I think he's there for the potential of a long-term relationship or a short-term relationship.
	I think that's a good idea with anyone.
	But that's the preferences of almost anybody.
	So any woman going out with a man, it could be the same thing, right?
	But the thing is, I assume that if a man asks you out, you're not there because you want free shit.
	You're there because you want to know the potentiality of having a long-term relationship with him.
	If that is the case, then again, you haven't really shown me why he's supposed to pay for everything other than you just want him to.
	Well, we answered the love at first sight question.
	So most of us agree that love at first sight isn't a thing, but attraction and wanting to get to know the person further is.
	So if you've been messaging on a dating app or you met in person, you already have this initial attraction and want to get to know the person more.
	So then if you're a guy and you want the chance of getting to know a woman further, usually you would pay for the date and not go 50-50.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Isn't the woman going on the date to also do the same thing, get to know him further?
	Otherwise, why is she going?
	Yeah, and I want to know what kind of guy you are.
	And if you're going to make me pay for the bill or split, that's to me a bad sign of a long-term relationship.
	Like, you're already expecting off the bat for me to be paying half.
	Why is that an unreasonable expectation?
	Just for me personally, it's just not my cup of tea.
	I just don't think that it shows true romantic interest.
	Like, I want them to be investing in the relationship not only time, but also some finances.
	I mean, it seems like a complete double standard, but I won't belabor the point.
	I think that's why a lot of guys maybe don't get second or third dates because sometimes it's just from splitting the bill, maybe.
	Some women just don't like that approach.
	But also, I think maybe if the chemistry and the vibe is off, even if the guy pays the whole bill, they might not get a second or third date because the vibe's just off.
	It just kind of depends on the person you're dating.
	I thought it was like because biologically men.
	Wait, do you think that the vibe?
	Wait, I just want to make sure I'm clear on this.
	You would not date, let's say he's Mr. Perfect.
	He's in the looks department, personality, everything else, but he just says, look, I don't think it's fair for me to have to pay for the entirety of this date if we're both here for the same purpose.
	You're saying that's a disqualifier for you, even though all the other marks are checked?
	If it's like a first or second date, I wouldn't find it very attractive.
	But after a while, I think that, you know, going back and forth on paying for dates after you get to know the person, but I really want to see effort on the guy's part that they're invested in getting to know me.
	Well, let me just ask you, I'll follow up this last thing.
	If it were the case that a man told you, asked you out, and said that he did not want to pay for the date, would you consider that a red flag?
	Yes.
	Then why do you have the expectation that he wouldn't see the same red flag with you?
	I think a lot of guys do.
	Like they don't like a woman who just expects men to pay on the first date.
	Which you are one of those women.
	But my expectations come from my lived reality, which is that pretty much for the most part, every date I've been on, the guy has paid.
	But come towards the second or third date, I'll offer to split, and most of the time they don't want to.
	Well, how magnanimous of you.
	Okay, I appreciate the back and forth there.
	Did you say something?
	Oh, I was just going to say, I just thought that it was because biologically men were providers and protectors and women were nurturers and caretakers.
	So I thought biologically we would look for those traits and they would look for that in us.
	Yeah, so I don't dispute that I think the ontology of men and women follows this pedigree.
	However, I think that if that is true, aren't women supposed to be acting in that pedigree and not acting in some other manner?
	Meaning, okay, I want a provider and I want a provider to take care of me and et cetera, et cetera.
	And in this case, you, the woman, is the nurturer, blah, But if that's the case and you want to do this the correct way, why wouldn't the expectation of the man be then that you did everything in that traditional way, meaning that your virginity or low body count at the very least or the submission portion of this, et cetera, et cetera.
	Why wouldn't he have those expectations?
	It's like you can't ask him to provide you with all those things and then not give your end of that, right?
	Otherwise, what are you doing here?
	Yeah, I'm just saying that biologically we just feel that way.
	Like, that's just the way we feel.
	Okay.
	I guess biologically, men also prefer women who are not promiscuous and virgins, but biologically, men like paying for dates, Brian.
	Yeah.
	Well, this all stemmed from.
	I think this all stemmed from we were talking about rotational dating.
	Women, you said, well, men do this.
	Men date multiple women at the same time.
	So women should do the same.
	And then I think that's how we got back into it about, well, so then women should pay because that's what men do.
	It's not illegal to pay for a first date if you're a woman.
	You can, but I just think that typically women are under the assumption that if a man asks them out and wants to get to know them further, that they would be more than happy to pay for a first date.
	Sure, yeah, most men are more probably more than happy to pay for the first date.
	But the thing is, is that I, as a man, can never go into a date with the same expectations that women can go into.
	Are you going on a date with another man?
	I don't see how that's going to be.
	Then you can maybe have that expectation of getting your date paid for with a man.
	That doesn't map on one-to-one about the conversation we're having because we're talking about women dating men and men dating women.
	It's not even clear to me.
	I don't know how gay guys go about it.
	I thought they just didn't think that, I don't know how they do it.
	You don't know?
	Yeah, I don't know how you're kind of giving vibes like you might know.
	BLM.
	Wait, how does labia get into this?
	It comes into everything.
	Well, it gets cumbed in.
	What the fuck, you D-Gens?
	Well, like, you're upset because you want the expectation to be a man goes into a date with a woman and she would pay, right?
	No, he's saying the expectation that if he would prefer, if women prefer men to pay for dates, they equally could have the same expectation that women would not be promiscuous.
	The argument was: why do you pay and well met?
	Oh, look at this donated $2002.
	It's simple, Andrew.
	She needs to get paid for her time.
	Same as any other escort.
	Call it what it is, prostitution.
	Modern women are trash.
	It's just a vowel.
	I feel your energy.
	Lol Paladins, we do not tolerate that misogyny disavow.
	Go ahead with your.
	That's just simply what the argument is.
	It's just if you expect to be paid for for the first date, and I'm not deciding.
	It's even more pointed, right?
	I mean, she's right, but it's even more pointed than that.
	It's just to ask, oh, I want to be a boss babe, and I want to not be a stay-at-home mom, and I don't want to give you children.
	I don't want to do any of the traditional shit that men would want in their provider role, the things that they get out of it.
	I don't want to do any of that shit, but I want all the perks as though I am providing all of those things.
	And it's like, at that point, isn't it delusional to have that expectation?
	But you're not providing the panel.
	Wouldn't that be delusional?
	You're not providing those things on the first date.
	You're already signifying.
	Wait, that you are providing that.
	Yes.
	Wait, first date?
	What the woman shouldn't what?
	Woman shouldn't pay.
	Oh.
	Well, I was actually going to sort of relate it to that.
	I was going to ask.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Hang on.
	Hang on, though, real quick.
	Before you go into that, yes, there is a signifier here.
	If you're saying, I like a traditional man who's going to pay for my even the first date, you are sending out the signal that you are a traditional woman, right?
	That is what you are essentially inferring.
	And so, of course, you're going to show up on the first date and feel like he got robbed.
	He's going to be like, what the fuck kind of bullshit is this?
	You don't want to be a stay-at-home mom?
	And you still got to pay for the first date?
	That seems absurd, right?
	Well, at least in the relationship that I'm actually in, my boyfriend and I have discussed having children in the future, and it's not that I have decided I'm not going to be a stay-at-home mom.
	I'm crushing your dreams.
	It's that we both agree that having kids is probably not something that we want to do together.
	So I don't think that just because a woman doesn't want to be a stay-at-home mom or have someone's children.
	Did he pay for the first date?
	Yeah.
	Sucker.
	What a sucker.
	Wait, all right.
	But I'm in a relationship with him now.
	Wait, question.
	He's as big a sucker now as he was when he paid for those first two dates.
	I don't think he would have to.
	Wait.
	So you've been dating this guy for six months.
	You guys live together?
	Yeah.
	Does he, do you guys split rent?
	No, because he owns the property.
	So?
	It's not rent.
	Does he pay mortgage?
	It's complicated because his family is involved.
	Well.
	Does his family own the property?
	Yeah, him and his family own the property.
	Does his family live on the property?
	Him and his brother.
	Okay.
	But I'm assuming.
	But I help with some of the bills.
	What bills?
	I help with rent and I help with that.
	Didn't I just ask that?
	Yes.
	Well, like, I help with mortgage, but it's like, it's not rent per se.
	It's just like helping with utilities and stuff.
	Wait, so is it rent?
	Is it utilities?
	I would consider it rent because it's not my mortgage.
	I don't own the property, but I guess I just help with the household stuff that they pay rent?
	A little bit.
	Yeah, I guess.
	Or do you pay utilities?
	Whatever they put the money towards.
	Because it's not technically a rent.
	Like, to me, it is, but for them, it's a mortgage.
	Well, I mean, but it's essentially rent because you're not paying the mortgage directly, I'm assuming.
	You're giving them money for you to live there, and they're putting it towards the mortgage like any other landlord would do.
	Yeah.
	And what about dates?
	Does he pay for dates?
	Yeah, and I've talked to him about it too.
	I've mentioned, you know, if you want me to pay a certain amount for dates and stuff, like if money is ever tight, like let me know.
	And he says, no, there are date nights.
	Like he wants to provide them.
	Okay.
	Doesn't seem very egalitarian.
	What do you mean?
	He's paying for everything, pretty much.
	Well, I pay a portion of the rent, so well, my own rent.
	How much do you pay?
	That's personal, but let's say it's, I feel like it's very affordable.
	Do you pay as much for the accommodations that you're receiving?
	Do you pay as much as you would get as you would pay in the open market for a similar or comparable property?
	No.
	The perks.
	Okay.
	So, dating for six months?
	Around.
	Around six months.
	He pays for mostly everything then?
	I'll like, you know, his birthday's coming up, so I've gotten him some gifts and I've paid for a couple of the dates.
	Like he, when we first started dating, I told him about my like weight loss journey I've been on and that in the first month I lost 20 pounds because you say, I'm sorry, did you say your journey?
	It's a journey.
	I'm on it.
	That's a journey.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	So my first month, I did no fast food, no takeout, just groceries.
	I lost like 20 pounds.
	So that was pretty sweet.
	Thanks, people in chat who probably recommended that on the last podcast I was on.
	So I did it.
	And so I told my now boyfriend about it.
	He finished the challenge.
	And so, yeah, I rewarded him.
	How long have you guys been living together?
	Probably like two months.
	What's the distribution of the household chores?
	We kind of take turns, but we both do cooking and cleaning.
	There is a, I think, like, housekeeper maid who comes like every couple weeks to do like deep cleaning.
	Do you do the laundry?
	I do my own laundry and some of his laundry, but it's not like on a consistent basis that we're like always doing laundry.
	So he pays for all the dates, you get heavily discounted rent, perhaps.
	But you don't.
	The cooking is 50-50?
	Or does he?
	He's actually a really good cook and he's really good at baking.
	So he likes to do those things.
	And I help him as his like sous chef when he cooks and then I'll take on cooking some of the people.
	Who cleans the dishes?
	Whoever cooks cleans the dishes.
	But it sounds like he does most of the cooking.
	Not most.
	Cooks clean dishes.
	Yeah, I feel like that's crazy.
	When I cook for my friend, like the one I don't like when he cooks.
	I only cook and he cleans everything.
	So I have a question.
	So would you do you agree with the following statement?
	Men should pay for first dates.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Women should cook and clean.
	Sure.
	Yes.
	You should.
	Yeah.
	You're fine with that statement.
	That's fine.
	Is it a sexist statement?
	That women should cook and clean.
	Is it a sexist statement?
	I think it depends on the relationship, if that's kind of what the expectation is.
	I think that most relationships nowadays, people kind of take on whatever works with their schedule.
	So if he's out, you know, working, he helps with filming stuff, then I'd be on my own to cook.
	But we kind of plan our meals out and figure out who's going to be cooking what, which day, depending on just like life schedules.
	Women should be submissive.
	It depends on the woman, but I mean, if you have a man that you can trust to lead, sure.
	Okay, it depends.
	But you wouldn't say the same thing about men should pay.
	It depends on the man.
	You would say.
	I think it depends on the man.
	I think some men who some men are like sugar babies.
	But here's the thing, right?
	So as a woman, you can go into a date with the expectation of this guy's going to pay for the date.
	Or I suppose the minimum is we might have to split.
	Like you can, girls go on dates, sometimes the guy splits.
	There's typically never an expectation that the woman's going to go into date with the expectation that she's going to pay for the whole bill.
	As a man, it's impossible.
	The best I can hope for is maybe split, but I'm going in with the expectation that I'm going to pay for the whole thing.
	I don't think there's any dating meta that exists where a guy can go into a date expecting the woman to pick up the entire tab.
	Yeah, if she's a sugar mama.
	Okay, but yes, that happens, but it's exceptionally rare.
	Most women are not going to tolerate that kind of arrangement.
	Okay.
	Wait, what's the question then?
	He's saying, like, generally, most men, when they walk into a first date, they knowingly have the instinct that I am most likely, if not going to, have to pay the entire bill.
	I may, by chance, pay 50% of it, but I'm most likely, if not expected to, pay 100% of that bill.
	The woman, on the other hand, does not have that pressure.
	She does not have that pressure of anything else.
	She has the pressure of arriving.
	Maybe she wants to clean up, maybe she does not.
	But that is what he's pointing out: there is a simple expectation of men, that of which is not equivalent to that of what is placed onto women on first dates.
	Why is that being so?
	That's all it is.
	And is there a reason that women have any offering towards that?
	Do women offer anything in addition to that of why they 100% should be taken care of on that first date, or that of maybe why they should be even just considerably paying only 50% of that bill?
	That's the argument.
	Why?
	Right?
	Yeah.
	Well, I won't belabor it for too long much longer, but I suppose the, and maybe this is hypothetical, the question is: do non-traditional women deserve traditional treatment or chivalry?
	Yeah, why not?
	I think that if you're going into a first date and you're looking to have a woman's time and attention, thank you for the time and attention, even if it doesn't lead to a long-term relationship, could be paying for the first date because women, like we are aware of like that women have more to lose if they go on a first date than a man does.
	Well, okay, we can get into that, but you said that the woman's time and attention, so is it your position that women ought to be pedestalized, essentially?
	I think it happens.
	Sure, it happens.
	But do you think that's what should happen?
	I think that's what works.
	That's what works for our society.
	You said that women have more to lose when going on a first date.
	What does that mean?
	A woman could get pregnant on a first date if they decide to partake in that, or even if they don't, if something happens where a woman can't consent, there is a risk of that.
	There's a risk of getting, you know, kidnapped or trafficked or just a lot.
	I think it's not the same for both.
	It's less likely for men.
	No, you'd be getting a girl pregnant and you have to deal with it just as much as a woman getting pregnant with you.
	That's a good point.
	And to get kidnapped and stuff, if you're talking about dating apps, it could be a setup.
	You could be getting set up.
	I think it's just as likely, you know, a man for a guy.
	Yeah.
	I don't think it's as likely.
	Just like, you know, celebrities and stuff, they came out and said, like, you know, back to the city.
	Okay, but even if I were to grant for a second that this is correct, I think that you're right to one small degree that maybe the chances of like SA or things like that for women, of course, are going to be higher than men probably on a date.
	I wouldn't even dispute that that's true.
	However, the likelihood of a woman getting taken advantage of on a first date is not nearly as high as that of a man, meaning most men are not going to do this.
	The overwhelming majority, I'm talking 99 point something percent, are not going to do anything to you on the first date.
	But they could definitely get taken advantage of.
	And hang on, hang on.
	Let me finish the point and then you can respond to it.
	They could easily get taken advantage of by, let's say, oh, I don't know, a woman who's not really interested in them having paid for the entire date, pay for their dinner, pay for their night out, pay for their drinks, pick them up, drop them off.
	The whole thing is on their dime.
	And let's not pretend that women don't do this all the time.
	I would say that men are running a much higher realistic risk than women are.
	The risk of this happening to a woman on the first date is not very realistic.
	It's extremely rare.
	Whereas for men, this happening to them is extremely common.
	Happens non-stop all the time.
	In fact, I wouldn't be surprised.
	Let me just ask you this and be honest with me.
	Have you ever gone out with a guy because he paid for the whole thing and you just wanted to have a nice night out?
	No, I usually will go on dates with guys because I see potential in a relationship.
	Okay, well, how many women here have gone out with a guy because they just wanted to have a nice night out?
	None of you?
	Really?
	I think the majority of women who have self-esteem and find themselves to be attractive typically are not going and have money, typically don't go out with men just for free things.
	Okay, well, let me ask this question a different way.
	How many of you women have gone out with a guy and had a first date with him and then never talked to him again after that or never went back out with him?
	Yeah.
	But that's on the guy, not the woman.
	I'm sure it is.
	Yeah, I'm sure that I'm sure that there was never any type of motivation, that you weren't really that into him, but you went anyway just because, well, it was free.
	So two things to say to this.
	The first thing is, if you're very afraid as a man to pay on a first date because you think a woman is scamming you, you should be vetting the women that you go on dates with.
	Yeah, you can by asking them to pay for half the date, right?
	That seems like a really easy way to vet it.
	I think you could vet before the date and probably figure out if they're the type of woman.
	Yeah, you can by asking them if they're willing to pay for 50% of the date.
	If they're willing to pay for 50% of the date, then I think that she's probably not going to scam you.
	But if she's not willing to, I think that your risk, wouldn't you say that your risk drastically as a man goes up of being scammed by a woman for just having a free date by the fact that she demands that you pay for the entirety of the date?
	And don't you think it decreases drastically if she's willing to pay for 50%?
	My second point is.
	Do you think I can answer to my first point?
	I am answering.
	The first thing I said was that if you're so concerned about a woman scamming you, you should be vetting them before you get on the first date with them.
	Yeah, but wouldn't an easy way to do that be to just ask them to pay for 50% of the date?
	That's after you guys have already been on the date, though.
	Why do you need to go on a date in order to ask them if they'll pay for 50% of the date up front?
	It just doesn't happen usually.
	But my second point here.
	Yeah, but that doesn't answer to the question.
	The question is, wouldn't a great way to mitigate getting scammed by women who just want free dates and free shit from you be to just ask them to pay 50%?
	Wouldn't that greatly mitigate this risk for men?
	If you are so concerned about the 50% that you're going to have to pay to have a woman out on a date, perhaps you can't afford to have a woman.
	Maybe, well, wait, that doesn't even follow.
	You could have a million dollars in the bank and still ask a woman to pay for 50% of the first date.
	But you wouldn't need to because you have to.
	Yeah, you don't need to, but that's not the point.
	So I'm going to ask the question again.
	This is the fourth time you've avoided this.
	I'm going to ask one more time.
	Okay.
	Isn't it true that a great way to mitigate getting scammed on a date as a man would be to ask a woman to pay for 50% of the date?
	Wouldn't that be a great way to mitigate getting scammed by women?
	Sure, you can definitely ask, but I don't think that a woman who doesn't have a payment.
	No, I didn't ask if you could ask.
	I didn't ask if you could ask.
	Wait, I didn't ask if you could ask that.
	I know they can ask that.
	I asked if it would be true that if a woman would be willing to pay for 50% of the date, the chances she's just scamming him to go on a free date would be drastically lower because, after all, why would she pay for 50% of the date if she just wanted the free date, right?
	But I don't know.
	Doesn't that follow?
	I need you.
	Well, wait, I don't know.
	I don't think you've dated.
	If there's anything else that's tangential to this, I want you to say yes or no that would mitigate scamming of women trying to get free dates.
	Yes or no?
	Would that mitigate it or not mitigate it?
	I don't think women are going to be scamming.
	Would that mitigate it or not mitigate it?
	Women aren't scamming.
	I'm going to need that yes or no from you.
	Gonna need yes, gonna need no.
	Would it mitigate it or not mitigate it?
	Yeah, you should definitely ask a woman to pay 50% before even meeting her to go on a first date.
	So, again, I'm gonna ask this one more time.
	Can you just answer yes or no?
	I actually would.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Okay, thank you.
	But I don't think the woman's a scammer because she doesn't want to go out with a guy who wants her to pay 50% of the date.
	Yeah, I'm not, but nobody said that a woman is a scammer.
	But you're saying, would it reduce the scam?
	No, no, no, no, stop.
	Stop.
	I didn't say that does not mean any women are scamming because they're asking a man to pay for 50% of the date.
	What it does mean, though, is that men get scammed for free dates all the time, and it would be a great way to mitigate that.
	That doesn't mean that they're not going to be able to do that.
	I don't think that's a good way.
	That doesn't mean a woman asking for that is scamming them.
	Now, I never said that.
	I just said a great way to mitigate getting scammed would be to ask for 50%, right?
	Honestly, I don't think it's a good way.
	Oh, okay.
	well then can you explain to me how your risk of getting scammed on a date would go up if the woman pays for 50% of it?
	If the woman's paying for 50% of the date, you are not likely to repeat my question back to me.
	You just answer the question.
	You're not likely to get a second date.
	I don't explain how your chances would go up of getting scammed for a free date if a woman pays for 50% of the date.
	Are you more concerned about getting scammed by a woman or finding your scammer?
	I'm not answering the question.
	Why do you avoid questions like the plague?
	Just answer the question.
	You don't have to ask me a question.
	Just answer the question.
	Can you explain to me how your chances of getting scammed would increase on a first date if a woman paid for 50% of the date?
	Can you explain how your chances are?
	And well met.
	Lol Kaladin's donated $200.02.
	I have dated a lot, more than Andrew, and I'm a multi-millionaire.
	A good way of leading out chicks like this scammer is to take them out to KFC or Twisted Tees in the Park.
	But I mean, I don't even disagree with that.
	But hang on, don't answer to that.
	Don't answer that.
	Answer to my question, please.
	Can you explain to me how your chances, how your chances of getting scammed would increase if a woman paid for 50% of the first date?
	You won't be getting a second date.
	She already, but prior to the date, she already agreed to paying the 50%.
	If she already agreed to pay, then she doesn't care.
	Then she's really curious about going out with learning more about you, I guess.
	And wouldn't that decrease your chance of getting scammed on that date for a free date?
	Sure, but I think women who have high self-esteem, for the most part, want to go out with a guy who's showing them that they are willing to invest in the relationship.
	I have a couple things here on that.
	You used to do sex work, correct?
	OF.
	So sex work?
	Essentially.
	Okay.
	Do you think men with high self-esteem would refuse to go on a date with a sex worker, even a past sex worker?
	I think so.
	I think it depends on the type of guy and their values.
	Some men are fine with it.
	Others aren't.
	Just depends on their values.
	Okay.
	So let me read a couple chats here because Ava has to leave, but we'll kind of jump right back into it.
	We have Killa.
	I can't pull it up, but Kill of Cereal said, did it ever used to be a trial by death if two people of different religions were sharing carnal knowledge of each other, like in the way back days or currently?
	Trial by death if two people of different religions.
	So he's basically asked if Sean.
	It wasn't really a trial by death.
	He would just, in some religions, just get put to death.
	Is that, yeah, I don't know.
	I mean, isn't it the case for these religions that even just premarital sex is.
	Well, for many religions, you're not allowed to date outside of that religion or have a relationship outside of that religion.
	Well, you're definitely not allowed to marry.
	Sometimes you can date outside of it, but you're not allowed to marry outside of it.
	We have Danny M. I'm in my soft guy era.
	I want to be wined and dined on a date.
	Why should I have to pay for the date?
	Aren't men and women equal now?
	Quick answer.
	He admitted he's in his soft guy era, and it's giving that.
	Yeah, but so like, why should he have to pay for the date?
	If he's a soft guy and he's looking for a woman to pay on the date, that's his right.
	But what?
	But you're saying, okay, let's say your position is you think, well, men should pay.
	Women should not tolerate men wanting the split.
	So why?
	Yes, we get that men can want it, but why should men pay?
	Because I think men understand that women are looking more for a provider type, and it kind of shows off the bat that they're willing to provide at least a little bit of their expendable income on that.
	Yes, so we get that women want men to pay.
	Why should men pay?
	Because don't men want women?
	But, yeah, sure.
	But what is the argument from women as to why men should do it?
	Like, what's the actual argument?
	She's kind of consistent on this point, right?
	So the consistency on this point is just to say she believes from her paradigm that women are a prize and that if you want the prize, you got to pay for the prize.
	Right?
	Isn't that basically what you're saying?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, I think women who have high enough self-esteem to see themselves as a prize would conduct themselves accordingly.
	Yeah, that's consistent, but I just want to ask you this, since it is consistent.
	Do you think that a man with high self-esteem should see the woman as the prize?
	Or should he see himself as the prize?
	They should both want to be king and queen of the castle.
	They should both.
	Do kings.
	Wait, wait, I'm sorry.
	If kings pay for the queen, isn't the queen supposed to serve the king?
	To a certain extent, yeah.
	And I'm not so sure that you know what kings and queens do.
	Well, he pays.
	That's all that matters.
	Okay, we have a lot of people.
	I think you got to be consistent here, too.
	I think it's consistent to say that you think women are the prize.
	I think that that's consistent to say that men should pay because you think that women are the prize.
	That's totally consistent.
	I can at least understand where your thought process comes from there.
	That makes sense to me.
	But what man who considers himself to be high value or to have high value or to have high self-esteem would ever accept in a million years he's not the prize?
	Isn't that what makes him the guy who's high value and high status?
	I'm the prize, not you.
	I think that that's kind of devaluing the woman.
	If a guy has high self-esteem.
	Wait, you're devaluing him.
	No, I don't think so, because a guy who has high self-esteem would want a woman by his side who he can, you know, show off that he has gotten a woman.
	That sounds like a sucker, not a guy who has high self-esteem.
	Why would a high self-esteem guy who thought a lot of himself and was highly confident go, oh, you know what?
	I'll just go pay for all your fucking shit and you don't have to do anything.
	I just want to flex.
	I just want to show you how great I am.
	Wouldn't that be the opposite of high self-esteem to do that?
	To have to impress you?
	Wouldn't that be low self-esteem?
	No, I think a lot of men gain value in monetary things because they want to be able to have a high status woman.
	I think that's a lot of people.
	A high-status woman.
	That's really weird.
	Wait a second.
	If you think you're going to get a high-status woman, you're a high-status man, right?
	You think that the only way to do that is to give her your money?
	It's not just about the money.
	It's showing that you're willing to invest in the relationship.
	So not only money, but time and effort.
	And it takes effort.
	What's her investment back in the relationship to a guy who considers himself high status?
	So in other words, if I was a multi-millionaire and 10 times more handsome than I am, and I wanted some chick, right, I desired her, and I said, okay, let's go out and let's have a date.
	And she just saw me as a wallet.
	Why would I ever humor that?
	Wouldn't I just go right to the next chick?
	You don't get it.
	You don't get it.
	It's not about seeing someone as a wallet.
	It's about showing that as a guy, you are putting in not only your time, but your money and your effort towards getting to know the woman.
	Yeah, but usually you get something for that.
	Yeah, you get, like, do you not value your relationships with women?
	What you're still doing is considering the woman the prize.
	I don't believe that a high-status man considers $100.
	Men need to know that if a woman refuses to pay half, she may refuse to do other things that matter in future when it comes to milestone changes in life together.
	An ethical/slash supportive type pays half.
	Yo, Kill of Cereal, thank you for the TTS, man.
	By the way, TTS has been lowered to 100.
	If you guys want to get your opinion on the market, I don't get it because I would not ever think that a very high-status man who was very good looking, who had high self-confidence, would ever see a woman as a prize.
	Why would he?
	So do you not value your relationships with women?
	Oh, I'm happily married.
	And you didn't pay for the first date with your wife?
	We didn't have a date on our first date where either of us had to pay.
	We had a picnic.
	Okay, who brought the paper?
	I guess she paid then because she made the food.
	Okay, good for her if that's what she wants to do.
	I'm glad that that's legal.
	What is that?
	Yeah, but nobody was disputing the legality of this thing.
	I think it's illegal.
	I'm just saying.
	It's like everyone just has a right.
	Yeah, allowed.
	I'm just in our anxiety limit.
	Even if I had taken her out and I had gone on a date with her and I had paid for the date, each individual situation would be different.
	And I would still consider myself to be the prize inside of that paradigm.
	So if I had said to her, look, I want you to pay for half, I don't even think she would have to.
	Maybe just the willingness to might be enough.
	Maybe you'd still be like, I'm still going to pay.
	They're just knowing that they would, right?
	Yeah.
	Dragon Slayer34 donated $100.
	Red shirt is prettiest.
	Let her talk more.
	Star gives she let us tap energy.
	True religion handkerchief shirt.
	Sex on first date is ic.
	Plus, size model could more attractive if she loses weight.
	Thank you, Dragon Slayer 34.
	Do you want to say anything to Dragon Slayer 34?
	Thank you, Dragon Slayer 34.
	Okay, thank you.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Our new hire Ava does have to leave at the moment.
	Do you want to say a parting word?
	I'll see you all again.
	I'm happy to be here, though.
	Thank you to everyone watching.
	Way too talkative, Ava.
	So damn talkative.
	I just need to.
	Yeah.
	Out of control.
	I just need to be quiet.
	You're right.
	Cool.
	I think we might shift the chairs a little bit, but thank you for coming, Ava.
	We'll see you next time.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Bye.
	And let's see here.
	Oh, I.
	Yeah, we can do Twitch really quick.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash/whatever.
	Drop us a follow.
	Drop us a prime sub, guys.
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	If you guys can drop a follow and a prime sub.
	I think it's bugged.
	Help.
	I think it's bugged.
	Appreciate it, guys.
	If you can try it, test out a little prime.
	Thank you for the follows.
	Lady Boner 5000.
	Thank you for the follow.
	Appreciate it, bro.
	Solid name.
	Great name.
	Perfect name.
	Beautiful name.
	So wait, going back to your notes here, you said, hmm, I'm trying to think where we left off.
	Do non-traditional, so okay, we were talking about chivalry, who pays.
	You think men should be chivalrous in all instances, even with non-traditional women, correct?
	Look, if that's how they want to treat someone, if they want to have a relationship with someone, they should treat them with respect, kindness, and try to go the extra mile if they're really interested in pursuing a relationship.
	Okay.
	It doesn't really matter if the woman's traditional or not.
	Okay, but let me ask you a question.
	Do you think non-traditional women are right for desiring traditional treatment from men?
	Is that fair?
	Sure.
	So you're fine with that.
	Women can have whatever standards they want to have for their own dating.
	Yeah, I mean, if they're not finding anyone to live up to that standard, maybe they need to reassess.
	But I think that initially, if a woman decides she doesn't want to go out with a guy who will make her pay 50%, she's entitled to have that opinion.
	If a guy doesn't want to pay the 100% because she's not traditional enough, that's his take.
	He doesn't have to pay for her.
	Well, I'm not really interested in having a conversation of should people be allowed to have these preferences.
	For example, I am allowed to have a preference that I only want to date a 20-year-old woman with double Ds and a big fat ass and who's a virgin and who's a billionaire heiress.
	And I'm allowed to want that, but is it realistic?
	Can I get that?
	You can change your expectations a bit if you're not finding your dream woman.
	Right.
	So, but how about this?
	So I'm a guy who's slept with a ton of women and I've been promiscuous and I'm not saying this is the case.
	I'm just painting a hypothetical here.
	I've been promiscuous and I want to date a virgin.
	But I don't want to pay for first dates.
	But I want a woman who's super submissive, who's a virgin, who's beautiful, who's feminine.
	But I don't want to pay for first dates.
	I don't want to be traditional, but I still want her.
	Is that like realistic?
	If you can find it and go for it, not the question.
	I don't know if it's super realistic, but I think it happens.
	And if that's how you want to live your life, then you can.
	Now, is it a good deal for the girl to date me?
	It's up to her to decide, but generally speaking, I don't think so.
	You don't think so?
	So then is it a good deal for a traditional man to date and provide and be chivalrous and be traditional with a non-traditional woman?
	Is it a good deal for him?
	Yes or no?
	If he's really interested in the woman's woman, I just need a yes or no.
	I guess not.
	Okay, so then should non-traditional women expect or demand traditional treatment?
	Like I said, I think everyone's entitled to have the standards that they have for dating.
	Well then, okay, then I am entitled, or let's say this hypothetical man who's promiscuous, non-traditional, wants to date multiple women at the same time and doesn't want to pay for first dates, doesn't want to do anything traditional.
	He wants like a traditional virgin, submissive, feminine woman.
	He should, you know, it's okay for him to want that, right?
	Yeah, you can have whatever you want.
	Is it realistic?
	Probably not.
	But at the same time, who are we to say you should completely change your ideals on what you want in a partner just because of maybe your past?
	Like maybe you've changed.
	Alvin Sam donated $100.
	Why should a woman be called high status when her husband works long hours and demanding jobs so she can have an easier, comfortable life?
	You make zero logical sense.
	FFS.
	Alvin Sam, good to see you back in the chat, man.
	I feel like we haven't seen you too much recently.
	Really appreciate your TTS.
	Thank you, man.
	Why should a woman be called high status when her husband?
	That's a good question.
	I guess to move things on, I just, it's interesting to me.
	So who, what kind of woman do you think is deserving of chivalrous treatment?
	Any woman who wants it.
	But don't you think, okay, so don't you think it would be, did Andrew say there's no such thing as a high value woman?
	I don't know, man.
	I'd pay for a couple hundred first dates with Madison and feed Uncle Andrew's ass too?
	Okay.
	Thank you, Zah Ross.
	Pay for a couple hundred forty.
	I literally didn't say that.
	I didn't say there's no such thing as a high-value woman.
	Totally made up.
	So, oh, do you think that non-traditional women are, I kind of already asked, are deserving of traditional treatment?
	If by traditional treatment, like respect and cared for, yes.
	You can still respect a girl and care about her and not pay for the first date and like open the car door and do all that shit.
	I think you can.
	I think it's how she views it.
	Okay.
	What was the thing you said before the TTS came in?
	Did you?
	I wanted to touch back on that.
	Do you recall?
	I don't think so.
	That's fine.
	So my view is, when it comes to chivalry, who is deserving of chivalry, right?
	Ladies.
	If you want gentlemanly treatment, shouldn't you be a lady, right?
	As a woman?
	That seems fair, right?
	Sure, but life isn't always fair.
	Sure, but.
	Okay, I don't even know.
	Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Let me just.
	Okay.
	So, my view is then.
	So my position would be, you used to do sex work.
	Okay.
	My position, if your position is men should pay for women, my position is any woman who has done sex work or does sex work.
	Sorry, Mia should be barred from receiving chivalrous treatment.
	Paul.
	Daniel, thank you for being a supporter of the content.
	You're not muted.
	Oh, sorry.
	Sorry, bro.
	It's okay.
	Sorry.
	Yes, they should be.
	Who is making this law?
	I'm making the law.
	Nope.
	Under my, yes, I'm going to do a coup d'etat.
	Man-to-man thing for the gift of 20.
	I'm going to do a coup d'état of the government, and I'm going to pass a law that if you either are or were a sex worker, no man should ever have to pay for a first date with you.
	Because only ladies, here's my standard, here's the male standard, only ladies deserve chivalrous, gentlemanly treatment.
	I'm not saying you don't, you can treat her well.
	Doesn't mean you have to call her names, treat her poorly.
	But when it comes to the expect, the expected gender roles, you have failed at your expected gender role as a woman by engaging in sex work.
	Sorry, Mia.
	Oh, good.
	And so you have abandoned, you have, oh, what's the term?
	You have, not abandoned.
	Disregarded.
	No, there's another word.
	Give me more synonyms.
	Gave up.
	More synonyms.
	Abandoned.
	Neglected.
	Terminated.
	You have fuck.
	I got to Google.
	Abandoned synonyms.
	Hold on.
	Okay.
	Just deserted.
	Ruined your children.
	Forsaken.
	Rejected.
	Dumped it.
	That's a good question.
	Reckless, neglected.
	You have deserted, abandoned.
	You have abandoned.
	Fucking back.
	Keep it.
	You have abandoned your sort of what you ought, what you should have brought to the table.
	Oh, which is.
	I didn't know I did that.
	I'm just saying, I don't think you pay for a first date for a woman who's not a lady.
	Now, here's the difference that I'll actually grant, though.
	I can say this, you'll still have guys who are going to still, because one, they know it's the most effective dating strategy as a man to just pay for the first date.
	Psycho donated $100.
	Mia Honeyo.
	Why do you have to do the dirty work?
	Forever barred for a while.
	Forever barred.
	Scarlet letter.
	I really do have the scarlet letter.
	Scarlet letter.
	Okay.
	Here's the thing.
	And I'll admit this.
	Men are still, even if you've done gang bangs and like crazy shit, you got a hundred plus body count.
	These simps out here are still going to simp.
	Simpson fucking simp.
	They're going to pay for your shit.
	They're going to trick.
	They're going to be fucking, I don't know what the term, trick, marks, whatever the fuck.
	They're still going to pay for your shit.
	They're going to pay for dates.
	They're going to.
	It's kind of like cucking.
	They're cucks.
	They're cucks.
	That's not exactly the definition of that.
	Whatever.
	Anyways, look, all I'm saying is, look, I'm just saying what I think should be.
	It's not.
	It's not reality.
	You're not living in real life.
	Unfortunately, it's not.
	Yeah, these women who are essentially prostitutes.
	It's not.
	That's not what you're trading.
	When a woman normally goes on a date, she's not trading her body as if she were in SW.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	She's trading the opportunity to get to know her and her time.
	But okay, but so don't you as the woman get the same exact thing?
	I get your time and attention.
	You get my time and attention.
	It holds different value for men and women.
	Actually, I totally disagree.
	I think women care far more about attention than men do.
	So I actually think that our attention to you is more valuable.
	I wouldn't agree.
	Because, like you said, there's a lot of guys out there who want female attention and they're willing to take them out on nice first dates and provide for them and pay because they want the female attention.
	I don't think men want attention.
	I think they crave like they do.
	They want attention.
	I think she's saying that.
	Here's the thing.
	So like, so women, for example, will go to a nightclub and they'll want the attention of men even if they have no romantic interest in the man.
	Like if a guy, you go to the club and a guy approaches you, you might even be angling to just immediately reject him, but you'll still enjoy that attention.
	First off, it's not clear to me if there's a corresponding thing in men where men are like seeking to like, I just want to go out and have a bunch of women hit on me and turn them down.
	That doesn't exist.
	It doesn't happen.
	I would agree.
	It wouldn't make much sense.
	Women care far more about attention than men do.
	We want something.
	It's like validation.
	Yeah.
	I think both, I think both want validation.
	No, we actually genuinely want your romantic interest.
	But that's different than attention.
	Recognition?
	That's what I'm saying.
	Validation for like men want that too.
	They want to be like validation that somebody enjoys our company.
	Validation.
	It's impersonable validation.
	That of women want more of an attention seeking.
	Was that revoked?
	Validation.
	Revoke.
	Is it?
	No, I'm like.
	I'm not good with vocab.
	What about love?
	I mean, they're looking for love.
	Isn't that the basis of it?
	And then we just want to take care of each other and have someone take care of us.
	It's more.
	And if you genuinely love somebody like the last person, even though we didn't work out, we didn't have any of these problems.
	We just cared and loved for each other.
	Beautiful.
	I like that star.
	That was beautiful.
	Put it on a hallmark card.
	A coaster.
	But like you said, like love at first sight, usually you grow into loving someone after getting to know them.
	Hold on.
	We're off of topic.
	Okay.
	Ultimately, look, my position is: if you're not a lady and by simply by virtue of having killer of cereal, donated $100.
	Get some, get some.
	Keep life in perspective, live within your means.
	Stay hydrated, stay healthy.
	Be true to self and others.
	Keep promises, protect the kids.
	Last question, most embarrassing date.
	Yo, kill of cereal, thank you for the TTS.
	We'll get to that back in a sec.
	So my view is that chivalry is reserved for ladies.
	And so if you have been involved in sex work in any capacity, you have abandoned and you've rescinded, revoke.
	God damn, what the fuck is the word?
	Rescinded, revoked, abandoned.
	You gave away your life.
	You have abandoned.
	You can never.
	I don't think.
	Think you get Forsaken, thank you.
	I don't know what it is.
	If you have ever done sex work, I don't think you can ever claim to be a lady.
	Okay, that's your opinion, but it's not the reality.
	It's not the reality.
	No, it is reality.
	No, because I've had guys pay for first date.
	Okay, yes, you will still.
	There's simps out there, there's guys who don't have any shirt.
	Fine, there are some guys who are willing to tolerate that.
	I guess what I'm saying here is that how do I explain it again?
	I don't think that it's the point of no return.
	I've returned and I'm a fucking black hole.
	It's a black, excuse me, black hole event horizon.
	Once you have gangbang videos of you on the internet, you can't be a lady anymore.
	Sorry.
	Depends, I guess.
	You lost your lady card.
	Start splitting, start splitting the bill on first dates.
	I think a lot of men would love to pay for a woman's brother.
	I think most men who are financially able to and have expendable income are fine with paying for a first date, even for a lady who gangbanged who's ganged.
	Who did a gangbang?
	She's not.
	No, what we're saying is she's not a lady anymore.
	She's just a woman.
	So give up the name.
	So, like, that's all he's saying.
	Is like, you, yes, she can and all.
	And mind you, I'm not on anybody's side.
	I'm just giving the plain simple.
	What he is saying is, as a lady, would not contribute to that line of work.
	And I do.
	So I'm not a lady.
	In his interpretation, I'm not a lady.
	I forfeit for the privilege of my chivalry.
	Sorry, my.
	Yo, Jake and Eken, good to see in the chat.
	I think me.
	Appreciate it.
	It's the reason it would be considered reality.
	I'm not on either side.
	I'm just saying the reason because people are like, oh, that's not ladylike.
	This isn't ladylike.
	And that's the reality of like what we've been grown up to do.
	And then when you're not, quote, ladylike, then you're giving up that it you're giving up your like lady card.
	Like you said, you lose the lady card.
	The lady privilege card is revoked.
	Look, I feel canceled.
	I probably, maybe I'm in the minority here when it comes to this.
	Hail and well met.
	Lol Paladin's donated $100.02.
	I'm sure she completely tells men on the first date that she is a former sex worker.
	She's just a scammer pretending to be something she isn't.
	She wants to get paid by suckers.
	I don't want to get paid by anyone.
	I don't probably tell them on the first date if it doesn't come up, but I have told the person I'm currently with, and they don't disclose.
	Not on the first date, I probably wouldn't.
	How far in?
	Until it seems like we're going towards a very serious relationship.
	You won't mention it.
	Like, what's the reasoning behind not mentioning it on a first date?
	I don't think a guy would tell you his genital size on a first date.
	So I guess it's just a little bit of a double-blind.
	I don't think that's the same thing.
	It's like I'd ask somebody, I'd be like, what do you do for work?
	And then he'd say what he does for work, and you'd be like, oh, I do this.
	And then you're like, oh, cool.
	Like, what brought you into that?
	And like.
	Black shirt rocked and burped.
	That's all for 90 minutes.
	Green flag.
	Chair one has crazy demands, but admitted to renting her Nepa boyfriend's parents' house and doing porn, stop ryan, relinquish or wait.
	Relinquish.
	I think what's wave your right.
	Waive your right.
	Did you purpose?
	Thank you for highlighting my green flag.
	It's good.
	Look, look.
	There's guys, even the women who do the OF stuff.
	Psycho donated $100.
	Star, are you a big, big fan of Ariana Grande?
	Does that explain the outfit, attitude, and everything?
	I don't know when the last time she wore this hair and dress, but I do like her music.
	Thank you.
	Next.
	Okay.
	Appreciate it, Psycho.
	Appreciate it.
	So, look, all I'm just saying, yeah, you can still get the treatment.
	Plenty of guys will still do the treatment.
	But I'm trying to introduce a new paradigm.
	What's that?
	Wait, oh, anybody remember those like 90s?
	Oh, wait, the 90s?
	I'm sorry, this is totally unrelated.
	I'm just like autism attacking.
	Cynodyne, a new paradigm.
	Anybody know what I'm talking about?
	Andrew Wilson?
	Hate 2000s.
	Zip it.
	The only paradigm I know is the rehab I went.
	Cynodyne, a new paradigm.
	Wait, how does it go?
	Hold on.
	God damn it.
	It's sucked.
	Cynodyne, a new paradigm.
	Oh, it goes Cynodyne, a new paradigm in cinema.
	Narrow.
	Andrew, you know what I'm talking about?
	You're alone on this one.
	I don't know where that came from.
	I hate to leave you hanging, but I just never heard that.
	Like movies.
	When you see a movie, someone in the chat will relate.
	You know that THX sound?
	Yeah, the audience is now deaf.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's not how it goes.
	Sorry.
	That's not how it goes.
	I don't know how to do it.
	Yeah, wait, do it, dude.
	Do it.
	Yeah.
	Wait, do it.
	It starts with like a low V, and then it just kind of pitches up.
	Can you do it?
	I can't really do it.
	You were just about to do it.
	You did it.
	Yeah, but I can't really do it.
	Dude, Andrew, don't leave me hanging, bro.
	I can't.
	I'll do it with you.
	I'll do it with you.
	I'll do it.
	I'll do it with you.
	I'll do it with you.
	Let's go.
	It's good.
	It's good.
	Okay, hang on, hang on.
	I'll just pull up the sound.
	Hang on.
	I have no idea what you guys think.
	Nick, can you find the THX?
	Fucking shit.
	Yeah, the THX.
	Wait, is this going to be like copyright?
	Are we going to get fucking for the THX thing?
	Eh, yeah, I better not do that, actually.
	Dang it.
	Dang it.
	Oh, dang it.
	I did the Avril song.
	Oh, dang it.
	I can't do it, whatever.
	It's like, wrong.
	Hey, can you do the Disney one?
	Disney?
	Yeah, can you do the Disney?
	Does it go something like, we ruined all our intellectual property?
	Basically, it goes something like that.
	Do you know when the castle comes on and it has the Disney, like the Disney intro music?
	That's McDonald's.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I'm like, what is going on?
	Okay, you gotta.
	Wait, I feel like I know.
	You are now Disney?
	Well, there's actually an old mental exercise.
	Right, watch this.
	Watch this.
	Okay.
	So, Indiana Jones, Star Wars, right?
	Same composer, Brian.
	You'll be able to hum one, but you won't be able to hum the other.
	One.
	Wait, what?
	Wait.
	Star Wars, Indiana Jones, same conductor.
	Okay?
	You'll be able to do one, but you won't be able to do the other.
	So, whichever one you do first, you won't be able to do the other one.
	What's the Star Wars one?
	I don't know how it goes.
	I don't know how it goes.
	I don't know how either of them go.
	I'm more of like a Trekkie, to be honest.
	Just kidding.
	Oh, man.
	Fail.
	Just kidding.
	Just kidding.
	I don't watch that shit.
	Sorry, Trekkies.
	Wait, I think, here, hold on.
	I can see the link.
	Psycho donated $100.
	Rude.
	Lindsay, you look like you would ruin my life.
	That being said, when can the destruction begin?
	I've become too complacent and need some excitement.
	The best way to ask me out is by threatening me, so.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like this, that.
	I will rain down on a godly fucking firestorm upon you.
	You're going to have to call the fucking United Nations and get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you.
	I am talking scorched earth, motherfucker.
	I will massacre you.
	I will fuck you up.
	Just play.
	Did it also take you two years to play that one?
	What is this Justin Bieber?
	Oh, like my friends they go.
	Can they hear it?
	That's like E.T. or no, it's Justin Bieber.
	It's Justin Bieber.
	And then, wait, let me see.
	Wait, what?
	It's like the little light bulb.
	The Pixar.
	Sorry, guys.
	This is like, wait, is this it?
	Cynadine.
	A new paradigm in cinema.
	Oh, that was good.
	I don't know.
	Wait, no, there was a deeper.
	I don't know if that's it.
	Okay, whatever.
	Sounds like AI saying it.
	Cynodyne.
	I thought it was a way deeper voice.
	Cinema world where the whatever podcast loses all objectivity and starts going off on a derailment total zeros which have nothing to do with the show.
	Wait, Andrew, can you say, can you do, in a deep voice, Cynodyne, a new paradigm in cinema?
	Cynodyne, a new paradigm in cinema.
	You should be able to do it.
	It was okay.
	I could have a daddy.
	Yeah, you should do audiobooks.
	Audiobooks.
	Like, you know, the guy that reads the audiobooks.
	You should do the my books.
	You should do the audio boys.
	Audio Bible.
	Audiobi book.
	E-books.
	Oh.
	Going back to Killer of Cereal.
	He said, most embarrassing date.
	Short if you can.
	I can't really think of one right now.
	Okay, what about you?
	Girl was gross.
	I went to the bathroom, texted my friend to call me in five minutes to say that he needed something.
	I had to drive her back home and she lived 20 minutes from me and I blasted the music so we couldn't talk.
	Peace out.
	Oh, whoops.
	When you say gross, what do you mean?
	Like she smelled bad or something?
	All of it.
	Everything.
	Photoshopped pictures, gross-looking catfish is the word.
	Didn't have a car.
	I drove.
	I picked her up.
	I'm a simp for that.
	I drove 20 minutes.
	Damn.
	Big loser on that one.
	What about you?
	Embarrassing date?
	As far as embarrassing, I think it just depends on the person.
	But I think what was embarrassing is that we both didn't have no money.
	Broke.
	Yeah.
	No, that was embarrassing.
	Most embarrassing date.
	I don't think I've ever had an embarrassing day.
	What about the date where the guy cried for like 12 hours?
	I always think that was embarrassing.
	Sorry, not 12 hours.
	You guys had like a deep 12 hour talk in the car.
	A deep talk.
	They didn't tell me.
	That involved crying.
	Sounds like a fun time to me, okay?
	I loved it.
	It was like a let's go out with a bang.
	12 hours.
	Mia.
	Except there was no bang.
	I remember this one randomly the other day.
	I thought I was talking to the same person.
	I thought they just had two different Instagram accounts.
	And then I realized while I was on the date with one of them that they're twins and they look identical and they have the same almost name.
	I thought it was just like a fix on like the username, only to find out they're the same most identical.
	And I only found out because the other one texted me while I was out with the brother.
	Oh, you sent this in the notes, right?
	I did, yeah.
	I just remembered it recently.
	I was like, this is, I don't know how I forgot this.
	I feel like you're going to be a great abuela.
	Thank you.
	In the future.
	Thank you.
	Like, you have abuela vibes.
	Abuela vibes.
	Thank you.
	You give me abuela vibes.
	Thank you.
	What a compliment.
	Is that a compliment?
	I think it's a compliment.
	I think she gives more mom vibes than abuela vibes.
	Chill out, man.
	She gotta be a mom first to become like that.
	I thought you meant mom in like a kind of sus way.
	Mommy way?
	Yeah, like a mommy way.
	Mother.
	Thank you.
	There's no mommy and mom.
	I'm abuela.
	Okay.
	Going to star here.
	Scatological underscore studies donated $100.
	Brian, would you rather sit through the DNC convention or rock Gorlock's underwear as your new face mask?
	Excuse me?
	I would go to the DNC convention.
	There's no way I'm putting that.
	Wait, wait.
	You're doing both for free, huh?
	He's wearing the face mask to the convention.
	That's right.
	I'm wearing it to the convention.
	This is an unanswerable hypothetical.
	It is unanswerable.
	Because, yeah, you can't pick which one you want.
	You want both.
	It's very difficult, very difficult.
	All right.
	Thank you, Scatological Studies.
	Was it?
	Star, how do you say your last name, by the way?
	Abilar.
	Abilar, okay.
	Oh, you have a Beavis and Butthead tattoo.
	Yeah.
	Is it like on your leg or something?
	No, it's on my butt.
	Oh, okay.
	And it's a friendship tattoo with my friend from kindergarten.
	Oh, I thought that was cool, but.
	I hate it.
	Oh, you'll?
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	Oh, did you...
	Wait.
	Do.
	Oh, man.
	All I have here in my notes that Maddie gave to me, apparently there's, because she does, just, there's one in the pubic area.
	Why were you looking at that, Maddie?
	She told me that.
	In the notes.
	Yeah.
	Is there one?
	You have one in the pubic area?
	I didn't tell anybody that.
	You have a tattoo in your nose.
	Just what is it?
	What's the design?
	Oh, I just thought it was funny.
	Again, I was 18 and I was stupid.
	It's a cat.
	Oh.
	Because it's pussy, young pussy.
	And I love cats.
	And now at 26, I don't think it's funny.
	Okay.
	But I still love cats.
	That's how I look in the mirror every day.
	I'm like, that's not as funny as I remember getting it.
	Matching tattoos are the worst.
	I agree with that.
	I have a matching tattoo.
	So you said last guy I dated, well, or I'll just repeat it really quick.
	Last guy I dated was a virgin and he helped me feel God's presence while I was dealing with paranormal, demonic activity.
	He got me closer to God, but he didn't work out because, well, we talked, he wants to marry a virgin.
	The guy before him was also Christian, but didn't get me as close to God.
	He helped me make me TikTok famous and we would make viral couple videos together.
	Okay.
	So did you not have a TikTok before you met that guy?
	No.
	And how many followers do you have on TikTok?
	11 million.
	Damn.
	Damn.
	Did he have a following on TikTok before you met him?
	Yeah, he had 1 million.
	What was the demonic activity?
	Yeah, I wanted to ask, like, the lights.
	I just accidentally got shut off myself.
	It was horrible.
	When I moved into the house, I would stay up to like 3 a.m. and everyone else would go to bed early.
	And I would hear people walking around or banging.
	And I would ask people the next day, like, was that you?
	And they'd be like, no.
	And it happened again.
	I'd be like, was that any of you?
	They're like, no.
	And then some of them even heard it too, and they thought it was me.
	And then the guy I was seeing, like, he saw, we had paranormal activity at his house, too.
	Miles donated $100.
	Yeah, thank you.
	First time donating, been a long time whatever fan.
	Thank you.
	W. Brian, W. Andrew, and Rachel, because of the mimicured feminist.
	To the girl in first seat, I've sent my hubs roses and beer on Valentine's Day.
	That's like the fucking most awesome thing that I've ever.
	That's the best super chat that has ever come into the whatever podcast on Valentine's Day, roses and beer to the husband.
	Like, what else could he ever want?
	That's pretty epic, Brian.
	That's why he's doing me!
	That's why he's the GOAT!
	The GOAT!
	I'd prefer the recreational cocaine, like every other week one.
	Yeah.
	That's better than the bone.
	Oh, you preferred the super chat, the TTS about the GOAT, the recreational drug use.
	That was your favorite super chat that came in.
	Yeah, that's what she's saying.
	Yeah, that's like her favorite, one of the funny ones.
	No, I meant instead of the beer.
	I'd want never mind.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, I see.
	She's saying.
	She'd prefer that boyfriend.
	That one.
	What's that new cocaine?
	Which one?
	Cocaine.
	Pink cocaine.
	Oh, yeah.
	I saw some news story about that.
	Or there's some girl went crazy.
	Yeah, it's pink cocaine.
	It's just like laced with like every drug.
	What was the story I read about that?
	What the fudge?
	Some girl like took it and just absolutely went bonkers.
	Was she 2CB or something like that?
	There's a bath salt.
	There's so much.
	But it was like called something like that, which is weird.
	I watched the vice on it.
	I watched the vast documentary and then I did some pink cocaine.
	Okay.
	Always.
	So demonic activity.
	Anything else?
	Can you scoot into the table just a little bit?
	You can scoot the chair too.
	Maybe Maddie can be a gentleman and help you.
	Okay, go ahead.
	I have to.
	Oh.
	Okay, yeah.
	So it was just that.
	And then we had some noises at his house.
	So I brought it there.
	And then I was very intuitive that week and I knew when things were off.
	So I called him.
	Like, I was like, is something the matter?
	And in that moment, his roommates freaked out because that was like the moment they saw a dark figure at their house and they were talking about the stuff going on at my house.
	Like, what do you think dark right here?
	Like a shadow?
	Like a shadow person.
	It sounds like me and psychosis.
	Oh, but they all saw it, though.
	What the fuck?
	It wasn't their own shadow.
	Wait, so you saw it with your own eyes?
	No, they all saw it.
	I felt that something was off, and I called when it happened, and they freaked out.
	Do you have neighbors that could have been doing the like the footsteps?
	No, stepping.
	No.
	But.
	Bad spirits, huh?
	Yeah.
	I mean, this happened also to my music manager, and he's not even spiritual religious.
	So things just happen.
	I had to have a pastor kind of deliver me.
	And things don't happen anymore.
	Wait.
	That's what I wanted to ask Andrew.
	Oh, was Andrew not here?
	Oh, yes.
	That's what I wanted to ask.
	Andrew, she got an exorcism.
	Well, it's not like that.
	It's basically just prayer.
	And like, I had to face my own demons and deliver out the spirit of Jezebel and like the lustful spirit, the wrathful spirit.
	I've dealt with mental health a lot, so I didn't understand there was a spiritual side to it, and nothing helps me more than like I went to therapy, I went to rehab.
	Nothing's really helped me more than like Spiritually praying and fasting it out and stuff like that.
	So, what was the process for the exorcism?
	It wasn't like a crazy process, it was just praying and fasting.
	So, I just had to fast 12 hours for two days, and we would just get on a phone call and then we would just pray.
	No, it wasn't busters, no, it wasn't anything like crazy, it's just prayer and fasting.
	It's not really an exorcism, to be honest.
	Well, I mean, church going is exorcism in a way, right?
	I mean, I fully believe the demonic is real.
	I'm a very logical person, and I usually ground all of my arguments and everything else between logic and the scientific method.
	But I still think that the demonic is quite real, and I'm glad that you're receiving some assistance for any demonic oppression you have.
	But may I recommend you check out an Orthodox church as the exorcisms there as part of your actual baptism are the real deal?
	I mean, I'm just saying maybe I can feel that it's not a good thing.
	I mean, yeah, I just don't like when people are like forcefully like it's just kind of like nobody's trying to force you to do anything.
	I'm just engaging in dialogue with you.
	I don't even understand why you're so upset anyway.
	You barely said three words to each other.
	I don't even know what you're so mad about all the time.
	What are you so angry about?
	I just think you're not very kind, to be honest.
	Well, hang on.
	I'm very kind.
	I'm not particularly nice.
	But the thing is, is no, they're not the same thing.
	Kindness is telling the truth, niceness is lying.
	And that's why they're not the same thing.
	Because you said in order to be nice that you wouldn't represent the faith properly, and you wouldn't claim that LGBTQ does not belong to Christianity in order to be nice.
	That is the opposite of kindness.
	Kindness is to tell the truth on behalf of Christ.
	You know they don't belong in Christ's church.
	If they do, it's in a repentant way, only leaving that pathway behind.
	But if they're practicing and they claim that practicing this and being Christian at the same time are compatible, you know that that's not true.
	But you're unwilling to say it in order to be nice.
	And I believe that that is the opposite of kindness.
	So I think I'm a very kind man.
	think that that's the opposite of kindness what you're doing to be to be honest with you What I miss.
	I don't like arguing.
	Kindness.
	We're trying.
	Yeah.
	He's teaching kindness for someone.
	Well, I go away for like 10 seconds and y'all talking about like he made a suggestion that she check out an Orthodox church.
	That's all.
	Cool.
	So did like your bad spirits go away right away after your deliverer?
	I mean, I'm still in the process of praying and fasting because they're still there.
	It's not that they're still there, it's just certain like sin that I'm dealing with that I'm trying to like not think so lustfully and stuff like that.
	I feel you.
	I feel you on that.
	It's hard out here to not be lusting.
	Make a mockery, Brian.
	The demonic is real whether you think so or not.
	I'm telling you.
	It's real.
	No, I was just, she said that she's trying not to lust.
	And I you know how it is.
	You know how it is.
	You know how it is.
	But, Andrew, do they do exorcisms in Orthodox Christianity?
	That's not the same as Roman Catholicism, where you have exorcists in this type of way.
	So the Orthodox Church is a continuous lifelong exorcism.
	The idea is that sin itself is a sickness.
	So even in your baptism, you are exorcised.
	This is what the point of exorcism is.
	This is a lifelong process to kind of rebut what is called the legesme, which is the idea of demonic influence, which creeps into your thoughts, and sin, which makes you more susceptible to it.
	So it's a lifelong exorcism.
	It's not even a one-time and done.
	It's every single time you're at liturgy, you are exorcised.
	That's what taking the Eucharist in the blood of Christ is for.
	Amen.
	Yo, Andrew, really quick, totally not dating related.
	Christopher Hitchens said that he thinks the most compelling argument for God is the fine-tuning argument.
	Yes, this is the argument which is stating that if anything is off by any degree, anywhere in the universe, the universe does not work.
	And that it's almost a mathematical, well, it is.
	It's just a mathematical impossibility that that could spontaneously happen.
	That is the fine-tuning argument.
	There's actually, it's called the God equation.
	And there's actual mathematical proofs for this, though I usually don't use them because they're very heady.
	And I don't actually understand them all myself.
	And so I feel like it would be disingenuous argumentation to dive into something that I only have kind of a fleeting grasp of.
	Okay.
	Star, last notes from you here.
	You said, I think modern dating is cooked.
	I feel like people should date to marry, but most people don't.
	Even I don't sometimes.
	I feel like both guys and girls should wait till marriage for sex, even though I didn't, but I regret it.
	I feel if people valued having a soul connection and genuine love before anything else, there would be less fighting about gender roles and just two people wanting to love and care for each other.
	Oh, I thought you wanted to maybe elaborate or something, but it's okay.
	I can move it on.
	Elab.
	I mean.
	Like elaborate.
	Yeah, I guess like, I do think modern dating sucks.
	And like, I feel like people should date to marry.
	And sometimes I entertain guys because I'm lonely.
	And I know it's hard, even though I'm not ready for a relationship, but I don't actually date.
	So I get it, it's hard, but I think like that should be the intention.
	Do you, are your parents still together?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	They've been together for like 30 years.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	Going around the table, I'm just always curious about this.
	Just parents still together?
	No.
	Yes.
	Divorced?
	No.
	No.
	What about you?
	Oh, yes.
	Yeah.
	Still together.
	Andrew, what about you?
	My parents?
	Is that what you asked?
	Yes.
	I'm sorry.
	Still together?
	My parents are still happily.
	Still together?
	Nice.
	Wait, really quick to you.
	This just popped into my mind.
	Yes.
	Do you want to get married one day?
	Yes.
	Will you take your husband's last name?
	Sure, yeah.
	My last name is very boring and generic, so I'm open to taking pretty much any other last name.
	I feel like this was a cop-out.
	Hang on.
	I do.
	I feel like the answer here is a cop-out.
	So you don't like your last name, so that's why you're open to it changing.
	I understand that part.
	But if you did like your last name, would you then be open to changing it?
	Yeah, I really don't think it matters that much to me.
	Okay.
	What if you had a dope last name and it was like it was Shannon Power?
	Shannon Silver.
	I think my future husband and I would have to talk about which last name we think is better.
	And then the guy you're dating, who you love and adore, his last name is Rumpelstilskin.
	I don't think it really matters.
	You're taking Rumpelstilskin?
	If he had a preference for his last name, then I would take it.
	I don't care either way.
	I don't really like my last name.
	I'm not sure if I'm not sure if I'm doing this right.
	Just check him.
	Just check him.
	There's a reason.
	Chris underscore Hitchens donated $100.
	The universe's fine-tuned constants, precise for life, suggest intentional design over random chance, pointing to a higher power, God, as the ultimate cause, designer, and sustainer.
	The only my okay, so my only concern with this argument is that if you use an argument which is relying on complexity itself, it is a fallacious argument.
	So yes, it's compelling.
	Yes, it's hard to refute, but I'm not confident that it's actually a really good argument to make.
	This is just my take on that.
	Damn, imagine a Christopher Hitchens-Andrew Wilson debate.
	Be one for the ages.
	I would do it, and I think it would be fun to do.
	He's dead, Andrew.
	You know, I would still do it.
	From beyond the woman.
	If the Roman Catholics can dig up a Pope, we can dig up Christopher Hitchens.
	I see.
	You want to debate him from?
	I was just making a shot at the Catholic.
	I was making a shot at the Catholic.
	Anyway, we're all good.
	Going back to Shannon, you said, let's see, marrying a man who is not able to financially provide can cause you to live a very unhappy life.
	It can cause sickness and early death in women.
	I have a question for you.
	Is there anything else that can cause sickness and early death in women?
	Yes.
	There's definitely more than just financial stressors that can cause that in women.
	Anything else?
	Probably like smoking.
	Anything else?
	Yeah, there's a lot of different things.
	Anything else?
	Yeah.
	I feel like you're taking a shot at smokers there.
	Rude.
	It just caught my eye that you were smoking.
	Hang on, pink hair.
	That wasn't very nice of her to take a shot at a smoker like that, was it?
	I don't think what you're doing is very nice to yourself.
	It wasn't, you know, I think it wasn't really respectful of his identity.
	As a smoker?
	He identifies as a smoker.
	I think you owe him an apology.
	I am so sorry that you're a smoker, Andrew.
	His pronouns are black lumps.
	I'm really sorry that you work out in a really buff.
	I am working out.
	Yeah, I've got the video out of you.
	Super buff.
	I'm getting there.
	So I'm just.
	So sickness and early death in women to marry a man who's not able to financially provide?
	Yeah.
	It happens.
	But like, what about these?
	Isn't the life expectancy pretty high for people who don't have a lot of wealth?
	Wait, hold on.
	I don't even know what I'm arguing here.
	I don't know.
	Like, some fucking.
	You got these really old people in like these Villages.
	I would say, just like just to combat this, like there's a higher, or there's a greater likelihood of people that are in love that nurture a relationship emotionally, in addition to that of the nurturing of finances, would outlive those of financial comfort.
	So, if you're if you're debating that somebody with financial comfort in a relationship like that, a woman that's being supported by a man, that she is happier and so she's going to be healthy and she's not going to endure whatever early death, it's not one, it's not guaranteed at all, but two, it's just somebody that's actually supported and emotionally involved with somebody else in a real marriage and a real matrimony or relationship long term, they're most likely gonna be healthier.
	Really quick, I have to interrupt this Task Star question.
	Star, what are your thoughts on the like the geopolitical conflict between like the state of Georgia, the country of Georgia and like Russia, like the border conflict?
	What?
	Hmm?
	I wasn't really aware of that.
	Like what's going on in Georgia?
	Georgia?
	He's screwing with you.
	And Russia.
	What do you mean he's screwing with you?
	I'm confused.
	I have friends that are Russian, but they don't talk about it.
	I live with Russian girls and I don't talk about it, so I'm confused.
	Thank you next.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry, Star.
	I'm sorry, Star.
	Morgan put me up to it.
	It was Morgan's fault.
	Morgan whispered in my ear.
	She's like, Brian, make a joke.
	I don't get the joke.
	Okay.
	So.
	So, also to add, I think modern feminism, this is from you.
	Modern feminism has too much black and white thinking, which, in my opinion, has aided in the male loneliness epidemic.
	Do you think that we need like a little more like Latino thinking or like you know, Native American?
	You're right.
	Like, I do think it's really like first it was just white, and then they introduced like the intersectional black thinking.
	But I think we need to broaden our horizons with feminism and like get some like half Italian, like half Filipina.
	Yeah, why not?
	Do you speak Tagalog, by the way?
	Um, a little bit, not a lot.
	Did somebody just fart Morgan?
	Morgan!
	What?
	You smelt it, you dealt it.
	Brian, you act like you've like never farted in your life.
	No.
	I have farted.
	Yeah, I know.
	Just now.
	No, not just now.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	Do you speak?
	Can you speak a little?
	If like a white guy stepped to you, I kind of understand a little too.
	Are you took that?
	No, but I have like family that is like half.
	Mia, lay off the protein shakes, okay?
	Please.
	Are you okay?
	I'm good.
	What's going on?
	Sorry, that caffeine's finally fucking kicking in.
	I've been tired.
	I've been tired the whole show, and now, right before the end, I'm tripping.
	Okay.
	Would it be hot, star, if a guy stepped to you, like a white dude, the most white dude you've ever seen, and he just starts like fluently dropping like some Tagalog?
	My dad did that.
	Would you be like, damn, what's up?
	Yeah, actually.
	Well, that's crazy because Andrew's actually a fluent, he's a polyglot, he's fluent in Tagalog.
	Go ahead, Andrew.
	My dad did that to my mom.
	Let's see.
	I'm trying to figure out how to remember pig Latin.
	I can't even remember pig Latin.
	I thought I could just bounce some pig Latin off.
	I thought it would be good, but yeah, I'm drawing a blank here, Brian.
	Shit.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Well, he has to be like early 20s.
	We forgot that part.
	Cricket noises.
	Cougar.
	Oh, yeah.
	Do you like her for younger?
	Recently, I've been liking younger guys or guys my age.
	I don't know.
	I used to like older guys.
	Nick's like 22.
	Who's that?
	You think Nick is cute?
	Nick's a virgin, too, by the way.
	Y'all look funny.
	What do you think?
	Can I set you up with Nick?
	This is so awkward.
	Do you think he's hand- I'm sorry?
	Do you think he's handsome?
	I don't want to answer that.
	That feels so weird.
	Look, Nick asked me like he's a virgin, and he asked me for help.
	So I'm just trying to help him out.
	I feel like.
	I really doubt he's a virgin.
	He doesn't look like a virgin.
	Really?
	Oh, that's not an insider.
	That's judgment.
	That's not an insulin.
	Skaterboy donated $100.
	Lindsay, you better show up to Bouchon on W Victoria ST at 8 p.m. tomorrow, or I will eat the meal.
	I order you.
	Then order desert and eat the two.
	Boom threatened.
	Boom, threatened.
	Oh, and he's skaterboy.
	It's skater boy too, like Avril Levine.
	He's buff.
	He's buff.
	Leave him alone.
	I'll be there.
	You should go.
	I'll meet you there.
	Slap into a slim jacket.
	We can call you Adderall.
	Is that their catchphrase?
	What's up with those cookies, bro?
	Which cookies are those?
	They're like cool, right?
	Yeah.
	They're not like.
	You think they're like, I don't know.
	I mean, you're edible.
	It's got the pink cocaine in them for sure.
	Two cookies, bro, and I'm tripping.
	I like sugar cookies.
	It looks good to me.
	Where did you get those cookies, man?
	Target.
	Trader Joe's?
	Target.
	Oh, Target.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I've never heard someone refer to Trader Joe's before.
	Let's see here.
	What do we have to do?
	What do we have to do?
	We had a couple more things.
	Would you rather be alone in the forest with a random man or random bear?
	I know most people say bear.
	I'm not sure.
	I guess bear, a man.
	He chose bear last time.
	I didn't make it to this last time.
	No.
	You're going to die with the bear.
	Oh.
	Like a gay guy?
	Huh?
	And I just think that about that joke.
	No, like.
	No, like an actual animal.
	Yeah, no, a random guy.
	Maybe he's sweet.
	Maybe we're going to fall in love.
	Huh?
	I said, maybe me and the random guy will fall in love with a little story.
	What do you pick?
	It's got to be a bear.
	Got to be into the mic.
	It's got to be the bear.
	Maddie.
	M-dog.
	S-dog.
	I don't know.
	A bear, you can, like, stand still and pretend you're not there.
	But a man, he might be nice.
	So maybe a man.
	Yeah.
	Isn't it if you stand still with the bear, it'll warp?
	M-dog.
	Like, polar bear, you're done for.
	I like animals, so I'm just going to assume it's a small little bear.
	A little cub.
	And it will grow.
	Other M-dog?
	Man.
	Okay.
	So, wait, bear, bear.
	I said man.
	No, I was pointing out.
	Okay, okay.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Bear.
	We're going to have to go crazy.
	We're going to have to kill the bear, then carve his skin, then wear his skin as a jacket.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, then we'll say, that's like a free fur coat.
	Cook him up.
	You know, go crazy.
	I picked the bear because I've just seen a lot of posts online talking about the horrors of potentially picking a man in the middle of the woods.
	And I just feel like a bear could potentially be safer.
	Why do you pick bear?
	Nick, we'll pull up that bear video we have.
	I chose a bear because I kind of know the ways I could die when it comes to a bear, but I feel like with a man, like there's way more ways that I could die and have to avoid.
	I feel like I would do better with a bear.
	Yeah.
	So you've like seen the online horrors too?
	Like the horror stories on the screen?
	I've seen them.
	Yeah, I don't do that.
	I don't do horror.
	It sounds both.
	It sounds horrible to me.
	Nick, pull up the bear video, but like skip it to the point where you see the other bear walking, if you know what I'm talking about.
	The one in the cars or the cars.
	Do you know what I'm talking about?
	Yeah, I don't do that.
	Yeah.
	You can just play like a few seconds of it.
	So just play a few seconds.
	Okay.
	Bear walking.
	You see the cars, they're kind of moving slowly.
	It's like, I don't know if it's a, I don't know if that's a zoo or probably not a zoo, but now I have a question for you.
	Would you be more likely to exit the vehicle in that situation, or if you just saw like a random man in the same position as that bear, just a random man just kind of crossing the road?
	Which scenario would you be more likely to exit your vehicle?
	After this TTS if seat one across from Brian came across a bear, I think the bear would either run away or fall in love with her.
	Fall in love.
	Winnie the bear.
	Okay.
	Winnie the bow.
	Your question was: Would I rather have a man or a bear at that place near the car?
	The video we just watched, in which scenario would you be more likely to exit your vehicle with that bear crossing right there?
	Or if it was just like put a man in position of that bear?
	I'm just like, why would I be getting out though?
	So would you judge?
	Just like I guess a man.
	Why is that?
	Well, like I could just get back into my car and drive off, I guess.
	But with a bear, I don't know.
	I feel like they're more easily able to attack if they're like that close up.
	Okay.
	That's interesting.
	That's an interesting one.
	But I thought the men were more dangerous.
	If I'm like alone in the woods without a vehicle and I'm like on foot, then I think that's a bit scarier to come across like a random guy because in the woods they could have like a gun or something.
	But if you're like close up to them, I feel like you can see what they've got going on.
	But a bear is like that close to you.
	I feel like they could attack you.
	Wait, just really quick, show of hands.
	Who said bear?
	Just show of hands.
	Did you say bear star?
	Bear star.
	I was leaning towards man.
	But I think both are scary.
	Like, I'm scared to be in an elevator with a man sometimes.
	Would you be would you be more scared in an elevator with a man or a bear?
	With a bear.
	But I understand, like, it's scary.
	I just don't understand what's the chances.
	Like, why pick the bear?
	Like, what?
	What if you're like in like most men aren't just going to attack you if you're in the woods with them?
	A bear doesn't know not to.
	I just want a bear story.
	See, that's valid.
	I want a bear story.
	Yeah, but if you, if it's between the two of them, like, the chances of a man actually hurting you in the woods are whatever that percent is, a bear's gonna kill you.
	Like, I don't know why men are just as scary as bears.
	It makes no sense to me.
	Now, here's a question: what do you think the rate rate, like the chance of you being attacked by a man is?
	In the middle of the woods or just like day to day.
	So, well, so here the scenario is: it's a totally random man.
	So, like, you spawn in the forest, the man spawns in the forest, or if you pick the bear, the bear spawns in the forest.
	You guys cross paths.
	What percentage of, like, because you're obviously doing a risk assessment.
	I think, like, here's my risk of this potentially happening if it's a man.
	So, what is the actual risk assessment?
	What, if you put a number to it, how many men do you think would be inclined in this situation to attack you, essay you, victimize you in some way?
	What percent of men?
	Um, I would say if we're doing like one out of ten, probably like percent's better.
	I'd say, like, probably like 20 percent.
	20 percent of men.
	What about you, bear?
	What do you think?
	Wait, what is the question?
	Chances a man will attack, like, a chances a man will victimize you in some way.
	What percentage of men do you think compared to a bear or just a man in general?
	A man in general, a man in general?
	I would say a 50%.
	That's wild.
	Stop it.
	Get some help.
	Mia, what about you?
	Out in the wild with a random man, 22%.
	Actually, 18-22%.
	22%?
	Repeating.
	Like 0.22 repeating.
	No, just 18 to 22%.
	Of course.
	That range.
	Damn, y'all crazy.
	Because it depends on what you're quantifying as an attack.
	He just harms you in some ways.
	Like an actual harmony.
	Okay.
	But in general, we do have a higher chance of being attacked by men, like just in everyday life.
	Well, actually, a bear.
	Well.
	Like, it is scary.
	I'll have him.
	I'm scared as a girl.
	I'm going to take self-defense.
	I'd say there's a 10% chance a guy will hurt you.
	You carry a what?
	Pepper spray.
	Oh.
	I was like, did we check bags today?
	And my dad agrees.
	He thinks I should take self-defense, carry pepper spray in a pocket knife, so he knows.
	Would you get a gun?
	Who cannot?
	Wait, would you date a guy who owns a gun?
	Yeah, I don't care.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Interesting.
	Very interesting.
	That's right.
	And you should absolutely carry a gun with you.
	Good idea.
	Anyways, I don't really want to.
	We don't have to get into the bear conversation, but we all know that you guys are crazy.
	Y'all crazy.
	Y'all crazy.
	Crazy.
	Mia's crazy.
	You're crazy.
	Absolutely.
	Latina crazy.
	Okay, I'll just do my stack then.
	Let's see.
	TTS is $69, by the way.
	If you guys want to get one in, pretty sure it should have been swamped.
	So, Shannon, going to you, Shannon.
	Okay.
	Do you think It's wrong for a guy to not want to date with Morgan.
	Do you think it's wrong for a guy to not want to date?
	Hold on, never mind.
	I can't do that.
	Say it.
	Say it.
	A very buff woman.
	A very what woman?
	Buff.
	Buff woman?
	Yeah, buff.
	Hey, he doesn't want to date a woman who's really buff.
	Or real buff.
	Like muscles and fully bodybuilder.
	Big body.
	Okay, I see.
	Oh, wait.
	Hold on.
	I'm sorry.
	I totally have to change the topic.
	Do you think what do you think about this?
	First time ever a girl goes to a dude's house, should she do his laundry?
	The first time.
	First time ever going to his house, should she do his laundry?
	No.
	Bruh.
	Okay, what about you?
	I don't know the scenario.
	Like, am I, do I get a stand on my chair?
	Hey, I'm throwing in a load.
	You want some laundry?
	I'm not just going to be like, he's not.
	You only get to focus on his load.
	Your load doesn't matter.
	That's the wrong load for the first day.
	I want to take care of the other load.
	Let's take care of the other load.
	Leave that behind.
	You should always take care of a man's load.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	I want to take care of the laundry.
	Not the laundry load, though.
	That's not what I'm talking about.
	Get your mind out of the gutter.
	Get your mind out of the laundry.
	Get your mind out of the freaking gutter.
	Get your mind out of the dirty laundry is what it is.
	So, first time going over to the guy's house, I don't care if it's your first time, second time, third time hanging out.
	Should you just do his laundry?
	Yeah, I've had people do that for me.
	Like, just do my laundry.
	So yes.
	What do you think?
	Wait, wait, people have just done that for you?
	Just, yeah.
	Have minges done your laundry?
	Yeah, like, people, like, will come over, I'll be cooking or something.
	Did you peg them after?
	What?
	Did you peg them after?
	Yeah, exactly.
	I took the strap on and everything.
	It was good.
	I believe that.
	They helped with the load.
	Exactly.
	Load for load is what we call that.
	Honestly, if a guy goes over to a girl's house and does her laundry, he kind of deserves a feminist, if you know what I mean.
	She's definitely a feminist.
	What about you?
	First time going to a guy's house, should you be down to do his laundry?
	Yes.
	And say yes, sir.
	Yes, sir.
	Okay, good.
	Maddie, what about you?
	If I really liked him, yeah.
	If I thought he was really cute, I would do it.
	Well, you're going over to his house, so I'm assuming you'd like him at least a little bit.
	Okay, yeah, I would do it.
	First time going there?
	Would you do his laundry?
	If I was like, really liked him, sure, but it just depends how it comes across.
	Like, if he's like, do my laundry, I'd be like, no sweet guy I've ever talked to would hear.
	He's like, he probably wouldn't even let me do it, to be honest.
	Here's the scenario.
	Here's the scenario.
	It works every time.
	You're like, I'd love to, I want to take you on a tour to my house.
	You don't actually take her on the tour to your house.
	You go straight to the laundry room and you're like, you're nice because you already, like, it's already been in the wash.
	It just needs to be folded.
	I'm a gentleman.
	I'm a nice guy.
	You take her into the laundry room and you just kind of like look at it and walk out.
	That's honestly not the worst.
	What about like a we both do it together type of vibe?
	Like, let's knock this thing out.
	Let's knock this thing out.
	No.
	Let's get to folding.
	Let's do it.
	No, you just walk in there.
	No.
	And then you look at her.
	You're there.
	And then you walk out of the laundry room.
	What does that mean?
	You walk in.
	What do you mean?
	I don't know.
	Oh, babe, I want to take you on the tour of my house.
	Like, boom, boom, boom.
	But the first place you take her is the laundry room.
	And then, like, lo and behold, there's.
	I'm a nice guy.
	I already put it in the wash.
	It's been in the dryer.
	It's dry.
	Needs to be folded.
	When he walks out, hello?
	We'll do the bow.
	We'll do the bow.
	So, you just, you just look at her.
	You look here, you do it like this.
	You look at her.
	That's her.
	You guys are hurt.
	I see.
	I see.
	That's what you do.
	That's kind of rude.
	He should be like, oh, what do you mean?
	I'm so sorry.
	That's like the gentleman.
	I washed it.
	It's already dry.
	I don't know.
	I got this treated me right when it was.
	I could have been like, here's the hamper full of dirty clothes.
	Put it in the wash.
	That's such a funny story, though.
	This guy had me over and I just folded his laundry and he left me in the room.
	That's like my go-to.
	Yeah.
	What a good date it shows.
	If he paid for dinner.
	That's wifey material.
	I was like, is that like the 50-50?
	Like, she does the laundry.
	You did half the wash.
	That's what I was thinking.
	Like, I was going to say, like, the dinner part, but honestly, like, you already did some of the work.
	Do I get to steal the hoodie?
	You're a gentleman.
	I'm a gentleman.
	Do I get to steal the hoodie?
	No.
	Yes.
	Out of the wash.
	You got to earn that.
	Exactly.
	You got to earn it.
	If I get to go through those clothes, I get the hoodie.
	Y'all crazy.
	Crazy.
	Y'all are crazy.
	Wait, so would you do it?
	I forgot where we left off.
	The laundry?
	Did we get everybody's answer?
	Star?
	Who?
	Where?
	Maddie?
	We did.
	Star?
	Laundry?
	Mia, would you do the laundry?
	Absolutely.
	Morgan?
	No.
	Morgan, bro.
	Haven't you learned anything?
	You have to be like, oh, like, I'm so sorry.
	Such a mess.
	I haven't.
	I've been so busy.
	Like, I haven't folded my laundry yet.
	That's how I know I would do that.
	Maybe.
	You have to, like, I would seem desperate.
	If a guy does that.
	I'll get back to you on it.
	I also make girls water my trees.
	I'd probably kill it.
	Do you water their trees, though?
	No.
	They don't have trees.
	They're bush.
	Bushes.
	What?
	You don't water the bush?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Water the tree.
	Where were we?
	What were we?
	Wait, so you would do it?
	You would do the laundry or no?
	For a first date?
	No.
	I also, honestly, truth be told, like, I do think first time a girl goes to a guy's house, she probably should do a full deep clean of the entire house.
	And I'll have cleaning supplies ready for her, gloves.
	I'm very considerate.
	I'll have the cleaning supplies ready, the gloves ready.
	New gloves too, not like the used gloves.
	They'll give you a rash.
	New gloves.
	Fancy.
	I give her the star treatment.
	Is that a joke?
	Have you actually done that?
	That's really weird energy.
	I think people should just want to care and love for each other and do it.
	No, I really care and love when they clean my house and do my laundry.
	That sounds so cheap.
	On the first date.
	100%.
	No, it's on the first date.
	It's not transactional.
	No, it's not transactional.
	It's not transactional.
	They just do it and they get nothing in return.
	If you clean the sheets after sex, what's wrong with that?
	No, they just do it.
	There's no transaction.
	They just do it.
	And I'm like moderately pleased.
	Like, actually, had women come to your house on a first date?
	Yeah, that's a red flag on my part or theirs.
	Kind of both.
	What about the YOLO girl, Netflix and No Joe?
	Netflix and No.
	That doesn't sound like a lady to me.
	Oh, I didn't hit.
	She had YOLO on her vagina.
	He was really ladylike.
	I mean, like, entertaining.
	He saw that tattoo and he said goodbye.
	Okay.
	He said, You only live once.
	I'm not doing this.
	I'll just say a lot of these, a lot of women are unassuming.
	You don't know.
	Look, you said you did OF.
	You don't disclose to these guys that you did OF right away.
	Sometimes you don't know.
	You don't know all the details about a girl.
	In this case, I want to show you're a slob.
	No, I want to show.
	I want to show that.
	Oh, I almost want to frame it the same way you framed it.
	That I am, I am allowing her to be in her feminine, traditional.
	I'm allowing her to be.
	Like, wouldn't she want to do that?
	Like, to you're talking about like a hypothetical woman, or do you actually have a woman?
	No, but it's for privilege to do it.
	But has a woman ever done it?
	Because you didn't use that.
	But has a woman ever done it?
	All the time.
	For you.
	Yes.
	All the time.
	And where did that get them?
	Look, I'll give you, gentlemen, Latina women and Asian women.
	I'm just going to.
	And there's some white ladies.
	Don't sleep on the white women.
	Okay.
	That's fast.
	Sorry.
	But you invited those women over to do your laundry.
	Are you always romantic?
	Yeah, always cleaning.
	I'm OCD.
	It's like we're always cleaning.
	So it's really funny.
	Like, things are dirty.
	I think it's really good.
	Do you get second dates with them?
	Yes.
	Oh, it seems like they're not.
	Yeah, they're in the kitchen.
	The framing.
	Hold on.
	The framing is completely wrong.
	Do they get second dates with me?
	Like, if they didn't do the toilet, probably not.
	Do you make them rake the leaves, like clean your pool?
	Like, oh, yeah, they get to mow the lawn too.
	If the trees die, they're the goggles, though, right?
	They have to do everything.
	They do everything.
	I just feel like you should make enough money with the podcast to like hire someone and not just date somebody for that.
	But here's the interesting thing.
	$3.99.
	I want a woman who, even if I have the money to pay for everything and all that stuff, she still does it.
	For free.
	Amen.
	Okay.
	That's nurturing for you.
	You are allowed to want those.
	Two coffees.
	She has to make me two coffees.
	I only drink one.
	I toss the other coffee.
	She does it.
	It's a little wasteful, but okay.
	She does it because it's what you want and she's trying to impress you.
	Honestly, I feel like a girl who really wants the guy will do it.
	No questions.
	I think I would do almost everything you mentioned except for like mow the yard.
	Like I think all that.
	I'm joking about the mowing the yard.
	But honestly, the cleaning and the laundry and all that.
	The toilet needs to be scrubbed, ladies.
	I think I would marry.
	No, just kidding.
	I wouldn't do that.
	Not if the kitchen's not clean up.
	Deeply like someone who did that.
	Have you ever had Shira 7 on the podcast?
	Who's that?
	You don't know who Shira is?
	No, sprinkle, sprinkle lady.
	No.
	I have not had her.
	I think that you two would really debate well.
	Oh, she will.
	I don't think she would debate if she admits that.
	She would have come out of her meal.
	I think, honestly, like the biggest thing I look for in a girl is like her, like, would she replace a laundromat for me?
	That's a really interesting thing.
	I think it's a red flag if a guy doesn't have a laundry room in his apartment/slash house.
	So it's kind of a flex.
	In California, it's a flex.
	I have a stronger.
	Me too.
	Like, if you got to go, because I'm not going down to it.
	You can save these peasants.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That don't have, that go to a laundromat?
	For real.
	That shows an if I will do your laundry if you got it in the unit.
	I tried to like carry that like sand again.
	Yes, I'm not.
	Like, you know, and since I'm a traditionalist, I actually, I'm actually thinking of getting rid of my laundry machine and washing machine.
	I want her to like washboard that shit.
	And then put them on the hanger things outside.
	She's got a wash.
	Yes, clothespins.
	Yes.
	That's what I need.
	Right, Andrew?
	Absolutely correct.
	Thank you, Andrew.
	Only if they pay for the first time.
	Always has my back.
	Always has my back.
	Well, here's the thing, right?
	He's right.
	He's right in a way, isn't he?
	Again, if you're looking for a traditional relationship and you're going to test a man by asking him if he'll pay for your meal, because that's traditional, then shouldn't she do his fucking laundry?
	Because that's traditional.
	The underscore yellow underscore tattoo donated $69.
	She missed out, Brian.
	I would have done your laundry and fold your thumbs neatly and hit the button.
	You woo, you woo, you woo.
	Ella?
	Thank you, Yellow Tattoo.
	Appreciate it.
	Yeah, I missed out.
	Really missed out on.
	You really don't know who Shira Seven is?
	No.
	Oh, my God.
	I feel like that's like your biggest op.
	Yo, yeah.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah.
	Okay, she can come on.
	You know her?
	Not personally, but I love her work.
	Is she folding his laundry up?
	Oh, absolutely not.
	Okay.
	No.
	She can't come then.
	Sprinkle.
	Yeah, your followers are the drizzle drizzle boys.
	Yeah.
	No, the sprinkle, sprinkle.
	You're drizzle, drizzle.
	She's a drizzle drizzle.
	She's sprinkle, sprinkle.
	That's cool.
	That's cool.
	Look, all I'm saying is that I do think a woman should be able to come over and churn butter on the first date.
	If she doesn't know how to do that, if she doesn't know how to churn butter, she ain't the one.
	If she won't, find someone who will.
	She needs to knit my clothes.
	Find somebody who will.
	Knit my clothes, make those little dolls without the faces for the kids.
	Make me a freaking quilt, bitch.
	Yes, dead ass.
	Quilt me, bitch.
	Don't quilt me, single.
	This chick sounds like an ultra feminist.
	It would be great to have her on the show.
	You know, I'll fly out.
	I feel like She-Ra probably has a very high-looking body count, right?
	No, she's married with two kids, so.
	That does nothing to disprove.
	I don't know.
	You need to pull up one video.
	Yeah, all you need is pull up one sprinkle, sprinkle.
	Just one sprinkle.
	Only place I sprinkle.
	Wait, never mind.
	Is that bush?
	Get your mind on the freaking.
	No, wait, I'll suck on water the trees.
	I thought that was crazy.
	And the flower is being a little bit more.
	Listen, bro.
	Have you seen the karate kid?
	I'm fucking Mr. Miyagi with these bitches, bro.
	You got to come off, fucking sand the floor, wax on, wax off, paint the fence.
	With a toothbrush.
	For all the drapes.
	Sorry.
	Jacket on, jacket off.
	Are you in a relationship?
	Are you single?
	What are you talking about?
	Are you in a relationship?
	Are you single?
	Look, man.
	I'm just saying, every time I date a new girl, my floors are sanded.
	My fences are painted.
	My cars are waxed.
	Okay.
	And my house is painted.
	But you're like alone afterwards, so she like wants to hang out with you after.
	No, she's really invested now.
	Okay.
	And it's sort of like.
	And cleaning the house or you?
	I do my own cleaning.
	So you this myself.
	I don't.
	I don't trust.
	Okay, well, I prefer a cleaning assistant.
	So.
	Oh, my God.
	You didn't answer.
	That's why I have a wife.
	But cleaning assistant.
	I ask for a lot, but in return, in the case, like she gets beat up by some like 80s bullies, I will come and defend her.
	Framework engineer donated $69.
	How is Adderall trailer vinyl-based wifey in training and free willie so entitled?
	Glad Adderall will have five to six kids and reproduce her based values and free willies skipping kids.
	Hash breed-based kids.
	Hash.
	What?
	That's an awesome hashtag.
	Breed-based kids.
	Yo, framework engineer.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for the TTS, man.
	Good to see you in the chat.
	Appreciate it, brother.
	What were we talking about?
	Well, you were on the topic of discussing how you, in a very karate-miyagi-like way, are going to be protecting your future ex-wife or girlfriend from whatever threats might come her way in exchange for wax on, wax off, which seems totally boring.
	The 80s bullies.
	Yes, and I will also train her in the art of karate.
	Krav Magaw.
	No, karate.
	But like, you're single or in a relationship.
	We've had women on here who know Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu who can break men's legs.
	Not one leg, they can break all of their legs.
	All the legs.
	All three.
	They're not using the Krav McGow.
	Okay, they're using Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
	BJJ.
	BJJ.
	What?
	Oh, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
	Yes.
	That's two J's.
	Two J's.
	Also, I also expect if a girl's coming over to my place for the first time that she actually, she just brings like a steak already cooked.
	No, almost cooked.
	She just throws it on the pan.
	I don't want her pre-making my stuff.
	She just got it from the store.
	It's totally gross.
	Like, get it all seasoned and prepared.
	Just toss it on the grill.
	Yeah, cooks a nice.
	And then it's good.
	But you got to bring like the plate all set.
	That's great.
	That's listen.
	That's what I think I deserve because I. Are you single or are you in a relationship?
	I am not disclosing that because I have security concerns and stalkers.
	So please respect my boundaries.
	Respect my boundaries.
	Hang on.
	Somebody said that you were dating Desiree.
	Craig Cray Desiree?
	Doomed Dating?
	Yeah.
	That's been a meme in the chats, Brian.
	Do you want to address the allegations?
	Okay.
	Finally.
	I'll come out.
	I will come out and say this.
	You cannot pay me enough money to have sexual intercourse with this woman.
	We are not dating.
	There's been no carnal knowledge.
	I wish her the best.
	Prayers and wishes.
	Wishes and prayers.
	We pray over her.
	We pray over her.
	We'll pray for her.
	Desiree, maybe we'll have her back on the show.
	Just she look, she can come back on the show, maybe.
	There's been no carnal knowledge.
	There's been no dating.
	Well, okay, but there's a lot of speculation about this drama that you passed up the last show that you didn't talk about there, Brian.
	A lot of speculation about that.
	Oh, maybe towards the end of the show, I'll get into the drama, but no.
	To dispel any and all rumors and what have you.
	No, me and Desiree are not dating.
	The girl that left at the beginning of this show, too.
	No.
	Snowflake.
	I wouldn't date her either.
	Absolutely.
	Literally shaking.
	That's a no-go for sure.
	Yeah.
	She wouldn't do your laundry anyway.
	Like that girl?
	Yeah, the girl that just left.
	Or not just left, like at the beginning.
	She couldn't hang with the questions.
	I would not.
	I would not date her.
	She has a weak concept, weak constitution.
	Giovanni Jade, you donated $69.
	Okay.
	Ask which of the women are pro-choice.
	Paul Favor.
	Giovanni Juris Doctor.
	Thank you, Brown.
	Thank you for the TTS.
	Who's show of hands?
	Who's pro-choice?
	What does that mean?
	Abortion.
	Wait, no, no, no, no.
	Catholic.
	Catholic girl.
	You can't be pro-choice.
	We've already discussed that.
	You can't be pro-choice.
	I know.
	We've already discussed this.
	I'm Catholic by my mom, and I'm confirmed and everything, that I don't necessarily practice all authentically.
	I still have my own personal beliefs.
	I align to pro-choice, and I think that in any case, with pro-choice, I think that man and woman, those that are involved, the couple or not, should also be able to make that justified decision themselves, both together, not necessarily just the woman.
	I think, and I honor women as well to also make that choice, but I think it should be a joint decision.
	Okay, hang on.
	I need you to stop real quick.
	Say women, and then say woman.
	The woman and the woman.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Women.
	I'm California, so you have an accent.
	Lol Pala from Still Nick 2.69.
	Answer this.
	How many muds has Desiree sent you, Brixam?
	Whatever your answer, I guarantee it's more than anyone else has received.
	Bro, she's been messaging me during the show.
	I don't respond to her.
	It's literally walls of text.
	I just don't.
	I don't even read it at this point.
	Okay, well, I gotta ask, though, how can you make the claim that you're a Catholic and be pro-choice?
	Wouldn't you have to either make one claim or the other?
	You couldn't say both are true.
	Well, we've spoken about this plenty of times.
	I was raised Catholic by my mom.
	I was raised agnostic by my dad.
	So I just have a different worldview on my family.
	Well, you have to pick a lane here, right?
	I've picked to not align myself entirely with Catholicism as an adult.
	I don't necessarily practice.
	I don't attend church.
	I don't attend Mass.
	I very rarely go to church by any means unless there is a certain need.
	Do you do porn too?
	I do not film porn.
	No, I film solo content now, but I do not film porn.
	Whoa, whoa, wait.
	You do OF too?
	Wait, you didn't know?
	Wait, it's just here.
	Her and Andrew have talked before.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Talked plenty of times.
	I do have to move it on from the.
	I can't remember.
	Look, I can't remember every gal I've ever talked to on the show.
	No, that's okay.
	I just.
	Now, that's not a knock against you.
	I just, I talk to a lot of various people, not just on this show, but on my own show.
	So it's not a knock against you, but you can't make the pro-Catholic claim and be an OF abortion supporter.
	You can't, you can't do it.
	No, there's no, there's no, yeah, it's just a matter of time.
	No, but no, I'm not in yang.
	And the whole interaction with everybody else as well in the realm of the Catholicism and the Christian beliefs and everything.
	I only know so much information because I attended Catholic school from fourth grade till the end of high school.
	So that's why I had so much knowledge and that's why I was extending into the explanation of certain things.
	And then you mean, okay, well, that's fair.
	I was brave.
	I was taking their worldview.
	Yeah, like I'm just.
	So if you're just critiquing the worldview because you understand it, yeah, that's totally fine.
	That's why I say that.
	But I'm just saying, so you're not actually making the claim that you're Catholic.
	By no means, no, I did just state that I was.
	Oh, yeah, that's fair.
	Wait, quick question for you.
	You used to do OnlyFans.
	What kind of content were you making on OF?
	I was making content of myself.
	Were you doing BG content?
	Yeah.
	BBG?
	Different kinds, but very short-lived.
	Two Bs.
	Two B's, one girl.
	I don't think I did any of those scenes.
	But you did do content with guys, like set stuff.
	I have in the past.
	Did you do any traditional porn at all?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	Did you only have like one scene partner?
	I mean, I've like collaborated with people when I was doing it, but I don't know exactly what you mean.
	Oh, like men you shot scenes with?
	Was there one, two, three?
	Like, just curious how many different scenes did you do?
	And with how many different scene partners?
	I leave that stuff in the past.
	I don't really want to talk about stuff like that.
	Yeah.
	But I did, I ran my OF for about a year and a half, so not too long.
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay.
	I'm just curious, like, if is your, because you stopped, right?
	Yeah, I deleted my account.
	But, like, do you have, is your stuff still out there?
	I don't think so.
	I mean, probably somewhere on the internet, but I'm not putting it out there.
	Question for the whole panel going around the table.
	Do you think that we haven't done this one in a while?
	Do you think men should be willing to take a bullet for his woman?
	If it's your wife, then yes, but a girlfriend, I don't think so.
	If you have kids.
	Yes, I would take a bullet for my friends.
	Friends?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Like, I mean, is that deep?
	Oh, I see what you're saying.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	I don't have a strong opinion on it, but I know my dad would for me and my mom, so I'd like the same.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Morgan?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Can I start by asking for you who said if you have kids, why would that be the qualifier for taking the bullet?
	I don't think anyone's in.
	I think that it's equal.
	Like mentioned, I wouldn't take a bullet for a husband.
	I don't think they need to do it for me.
	I mean, if you could say both, obviously, but that's not the question.
	If you have kids, like, let's say she's pregnant or you have kids, I think that it's important.
	I don't know.
	Just to protect your kids, I think that it's more important for the child.
	Well, let me give you an argument.
	This one comes straight from a gentleman named Homath.
	Very compelling argument that I want to map on to the bullet-taking argument when it comes to kids.
	Okay.
	So this compelling argument goes like this.
	Women can only have as many children as they can get impregnated by one man at a time, right?
	So they can only have as many as men can impregnate them, which is only going to be one man at a time who can't actually impregnate them.
	You can sleep with many men at a time, but only one can impregnate them.
	However, a man can impregnate as many women as he can make arrangements to sleep with.
	So, if that is the case, if the protection of the kids is the priority, then shouldn't the woman self-sacrifice as she can only have so many kids, whereas he can continuously have more children?
	No, I mean, if you even look at the Titanic, they've saved women and children.
	I think that it's the same thing.
	But that was that whole chivalry thing where there was an expectation because women were fulfilling their end of whatever this bizarre social media is.
	Yeah, and I agree with that.
	I think that that's, I'm still on that.
	I think that a man should protect his men are protectors.
	I think that a man should protect his wife and kids to show like the strong.
	I don't know.
	But if it's in the best interest of the children, the man is the provider inside of your logic, then he's going to be the better provider for the children.
	And he can continuously make far more children than the woman can.
	So shouldn't she sacrifice herself for him?
	No.
	I think it's like.
	I'm looking for the word.
	I think the what was the word you used before?
	Chivalry.
	Yeah, I think that a man should protect his wife.
	Why?
	I guess I guess I don't have an explanation.
	It just feels right.
	Okay, fair enough.
	Like, you know, maybe that's not wrong.
	I'm not set on that.
	I just would hope whoever I marry would take a bullet for me.
	So I'm going to go with that answer.
	Fair enough.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Yep.
	So it's not necessarily because she's a mom, but more because you just love that person?
	I think if you're deep in the relationship and you have kids, that a mother, because the kid's going to grow up being like, my dad was a hero, you saved my mom.
	Rather than like, oh, my dad, like, this might be sexist, but, oh, my, my mom took a bullet for my dad.
	Like, it just one of them sounds right to me.
	I think.
	I think the woman should take the bullet.
	I was just going to say.
	As a traditional man, the woman should take the bullet.
	Yeah, I'm on the other.
	See, I'm on the opposing side of that.
	I would, if it was my parents, I would rather be, I would rather know my dad died protecting my mom and having my mom raise me.
	Nothing against my dad.
	I just, like, I wouldn't want to be like, oh, my mom took a bullet for my dad.
	I think I personally just, like, maybe it's because I'm romantic or like that's just the way I see life.
	I would prefer it just be one and or the other would do that.
	So if I'm in danger and my husband is drawn to save my life and do so, then may he jump for the bullet.
	If I see them in danger and I'm in love with them and that's what I'd hope to have that relationship dynamic, then may I jump in front of them.
	Not because my children of any format, I think it's just an honor of just because I love you, regardless of children or whatever it may be.
	I like your answer.
	I like your answer.
	I think it's well-spoken.
	The woman should definitely take the bullet.
	And then there's a single-shaped.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
	Sorry, what's that?
	What do you have against women so much?
	Because my dad would never say something like that.
	And he's conservative and he would never let my mom take a bullet.
	Because he loves us.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	So your mom doesn't love him?
	She does, but it's just the way we want to do that.
	Well, then why wouldn't she take the bullet?
	She probably would, but I know he wouldn't let that happen.
	Yeah, why would she let him let that happen?
	Why do you hate women so much?
	No, why do you hate men so much?
	I don't.
	I'm just saying.
	Why do you have sex with dogs?
	Wait, what?
	Like, why do you have sex with dogs?
	What are you talking about?
	Oh, why do you have sexual intercourse with canines?
	Why?
	Why do you have carnal knowledge with golden reavers?
	Why do you have sex with canines?
	He means he's not sexist.
	You don't have sex with dogs.
	Why do you allow a dog's penis inside of you?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	You don't like pre-loaded questions where you make the inference of why.
	So it's pre-loaded, which assumes truth.
	Oh, you don't like that?
	Maybe you shouldn't fucking do it to other people then.
	Why are you so triggered by my question?
	Why are you so triggered?
	You're the one who said, why do you hate women?
	That sounds triggered.
	You do.
	Why do you have sex with dogs?
	Why do you have sex with dogs?
	Well, why?
	I don't have an animosity.
	We have sex with men, but you guys have an animosity.
	You have sex with dogs.
	That's a good question.
	Yeah.
	I have an animosity.
	Me and Andrew have an animosity.
	First off, was it your mom or an ex-girlfriend?
	What's the trauma?
	I just want to know, like, psychologically.
	Don't bring in the mother.
	I'm just being like psychologically trying to understand.
	Where is this coming from?
	I'm happy to.
	I love psychology.
	It's my favorite.
	It's all bullshit, but I still like it anyway, just because it's interesting to study.
	So let's move into it psychologically.
	Perhaps it's a Freudian slip.
	Perhaps it's because of my relationship with my mother, as Freud would say.
	Or perhaps it's an entirely different psychological phenomenon altogether.
	Perhaps it's Jungian.
	And the fact is I haven't found myself yet.
	Perhaps it's many of these things.
	Or perhaps you're just full of fucking shit and can't make a single argument.
	And so you defer to planning you hate women like a dumb trash feminist.
	It could be that too.
	Have you perhaps thought that psychologically you could just be full of fucking dog shit?
	Have you thought of that?
	He's just pandering.
	It's okay.
	To who?
	To the audience if you want to rage bait and whatnot.
	Well, you look like you're pandering to a KFC.
	So anyway, back to where I was at before I was so rudely interrupted by Mrs. Jowles over there.
	Can we get back to where I was?
	Her wrath is so slow to anger for sure.
	It's the smoker thing.
	He's got to have another pa.
	Have another cheeseburger.
	So anyway, back to where I was at before I was so rudely interrupted.
	There's no possible way for you to insult me about my health habits.
	You look like you're hater.
	I literally feel bad for the chair.
	The chair looks like it's an agony.
	Hold on.
	Calm down, baby.
	While we finish our discussion.
	Everybody be nice.
	Everybody be nice.
	Okay, go.
	Why do we hate women?
	Why do you think we hate women?
	Misogyny.
	I mean, I used to have an animosity towards men when I was dating someone who was treating me badly, but then I stopped dating him and a guy treated me right.
	And now I just see like my dad is, yeah, he caused me some trauma, but I forgive him.
	And he's actually a very loving man.
	And I don't feel like this animosity anymore.
	Wait, what does that have to do with the claims that you made?
	I just see this like anger like that I used to have.
	I don't have it really anymore, but I just see it in you guys and I'm like, what unlike fulfilled trauma have you guys?
	Unhappily married.
	Have you forgiven somebody of something?
	What unfulfilled trauma do you think my wife sees in me?
	I don't know.
	What unfulfilled trauma do you think a happily married man with many children, including female children?
	Can you point to what you think this trauma is?
	By the way, are you married?
	No, I'm not married.
	Maybe that's because of all of your unfulfilled trauma.
	You just couldn't get a husband, huh?
	They just can't see past the unfulfilled trauma?
	I'm not ready for a husband.
	I know that.
	And God knows that.
	Wait, do you think me and Andrew has a husband?
	That doesn't strike a chord for me.
	I'm really not ready.
	Hold on.
	Do you think that me and Andrew are misogynists?
	A little bit, yeah.
	Okay.
	Andrew is a misogynist?
	I think he has an animosity towards women.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Do you think I'm a misogynist?
	A little bit.
	How do you define misogyny?
	Just somebody who has like a dislike or hatred towards.
	I don't know the hate dictionary.
	I don't want to say hatred, but it's definitely a dislike.
	And the like the definition of hatred is a great dislike.
	And it's actually one of the like sins of living in the flesh.
	What if it's possible that I just don't dislike women?
	I just dislike stupid people.
	And it doesn't matter if they're men or women.
	And you just happen to be a stupid person, and that's why I dislike you, and also happen to be a woman at the same time.
	So you happen to be stupid and happen to be a woman, but I don't hate you because you're a woman.
	I dislike you because you're stupid.
	Well, could that be possible?
	Well, why don't you ever talk about men?
	You always talk about, you talk about how much you hate women every day.
	Men, non-stop.
	When do you debate with anybody ever about any worldview?
	You can't even denounce the LGBTQ in your own faith.
	How could you ever talk to me about anything?
	I debate it professionally for a living against men and women.
	You go on a TikTok after you got with a guy who had a million TikTok followers so you could piggyback on that to fame.
	I would not bullshit me here, sweetheart.
	It ain't gonna work well.
	Wait, Andrew, check your text.
	We actually will.
	Check your text, man.
	It's okay.
	I'd be curious to see his wife come on and talk.
	Yeah, she has.
	Oh, she has.
	Yeah, she has.
	Would you like to debate with her?
	I'll bring her down right now.
	She can take the seat.
	I'll go get her real quick.
	She'll get you right back.
	Rachel, Rach.
	Oh, my God.
	Let's get Rachel with this.
	Okay, because if we're saying that we're getting misogynistic vibes, we can see.
	I'm going to answer the bullet question wrong.
	Women should take the first bullet.
	Try not to die to enable the man to fight.
	Bullet free for the case.
	Sorry, these came in the middle.
	If the man gets shot, who fights the shooter?
	Logic.
	Logic.
	Yo, engineer, thank you for the $69 TTS.
	Mucho Gusto Senior.
	Thank you, Giovanni.
	Giovanni JD donated $69.
	Thank you, bro.
	She rocks and burps that Dalbert would just as quickly dismember it.
	Keep it away from her, Brian.
	Bro, what?
	Shame.
	Oh, my God.
	No.
	Yo, Giovanni, thank you for the TTS, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	You can hide here too, just temporarily.
	Yo, Giovanni, appreciate it, brother.
	Appreciate it.
	I really hope Rachel comes.
	Has anybody seen Alien Roman?
	Wait.
	Oh, my God.
	Alien Romans?
	GMD Jim donated $69.
	So, the pro-choice Catholic not only wants children gone, she wants the husband to take a bullet also.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Stop calling yourself a catholic.
	Wow.
	She stopped.
	She's back there.
	She heard it.
	She already denounced her uncle.
	She said she was raised Catholic.
	And she was raised this way.
	She was long this way.
	Hilary Epstein donated $69.
	Imagine not being able to see the viewpoint that men get the terrible end of the deal in the dating perspective.
	There is no hate, but modern sex culture isn't fair for men.
	Gotta see both sides.
	Thank you next.
	Thank you, Hilary Epstein.
	Appreciate it.
	Lol Paladins donated $69.
	You don't look happy, says the woman who looks happy on the outside but is deeply troubled on the inside.
	Just keep smiling for the camera, sweetie.
	Keep hiding who you really are.
	You sociopaths.
	Society.
	Society empaths.
	I'm short.
	A what?
	Like I'm the opposite of sociopath.
	An empath is that like when you can read Is Andrew back?
	Nick?
	No, I just feel other people's emotions more.
	Or is it Rachel?
	Rachel, guys, Rachel's coming.
	Rachel's coming.
	Is she wearing her pink?
	Her pink sweater.
	Pink sweater.
	It's a good look.
	I think it's a good look for Rachel.
	The pink.
	It's a good look.
	So just curious, though.
	Oh, wait, now I can hear them.
	Rachel.
	Oh, my goodness.
	There she is.
	Wait, you're.
	I can't.
	I'm not even in frame.
	What the heck?
	Can we raise her seat up?
	Can we get her booster seat?
	Look at that.
	Can we get Rachel a booster seat?
	Oh, there's Andrew with a cigarette.
	She needs that picture.
	We need Andrew.
	We need Rachel.
	I literally got dragged out of bed for this.
	This better be good.
	I hear my husband is a woman-hating misogynist, and I'm here to show proof of life.
	He unchained me from the stove just long enough to be here.
	She's out in the dog cage.
	How can I help you, ladies?
	Who?
	So, have you watched your husband talk to women on the podcast?
	Yeah, I listen to every single podcast he does.
	I've also been on the podcast, and I debate women all the time myself.
	Okay.
	In fact, I was listening to you earlier describe how you think that men should pay for dates with women who want to be equal, don't want to give them children, and also want to have their own careers.
	And that absolutely blew my mind.
	You don't think that men should pay on the first date?
	Oh, I think they should pay on the first date for women who are going to be wives, not for women like you.
	I wouldn't be a wife?
	Not if you're going to refuse to give a man children, have to have your own career working outside the home.
	It's not refusing to give a man.
	You're paying choice?
	No, you're a roommate.
	Why would a man pay for you if you're just a roommate?
	Do you want to be equal or no?
	Well, I have a conversation with my partner and we've discussed having children.
	I'm not taking away from them having children.
	We've decided together that having children is probably not the best idea.
	If you're equal partners, why should he pay for your stuff?
	Because a man at the beginning of the relationship should want to prove that they are invested in the relationship.
	So what are you proving?
	Like, well, if it was a man, I'd be like, hell to the no.
	Oh, no, no, no, no.
	If it's not equal, what do you want?
	I'd be like, no, thank you, ma'am.
	You can pay for your own super seismic value meal, and I will go find a woman who actually wants to be a wife if I'm going to pay for shit.
	You said your equal 50% is just being there.
	So does that mean he's doing 70%?
	Because he's paying and there, too.
	You're both there.
	No, but I think you're showing the investment.
	Women show investment with time because if you do want to have children, there's limited time.
	But I think that women, they value different things.
	Like they value when a man provides for them, especially on a first date, a first meeting.
	And men value.
	So you providing your glorious presence is what he's investing in.
	If he values my presence, yes.
	I don't really see that.
	I mean, simps are going to simp.
	There's a simp out there, you know, for everyone.
	So I don't think that's the right way to go about it.
	Simping.
	That's the worst simping ever.
	I'm gonna let you live at my house for like practically free and split the chores and pay for all your shit.
	That's simping.
	That's that's like you're just like a guy who genuinely likes you.
	Do you pay any bills with your husband?
	No, but I'm a stay-at-home mom.
	I raise the children.
	I cook all the meals.
	Andrew has never done a house chore ever in 17 years.
	I do all of that.
	I bring him his food.
	I bring him his drinks.
	I keep track of his schedule, basically do anything he needs me to do to help him because that's my duty in the relationship.
	So, yeah, I mean, if you want to talk about investment, I'm pretty invested.
	So he feels like, you know, if I want this traditional wife role and I actually do all those things, then he feels like it's worth it to provide.
	But if I were to come in here and be like, well, I want my own career and you have to do your own laundry and we're going to split the chores 50-50 and I want to be equal, he'd be like, okay, bitch, then you can be equal and pay for all your shit.
	You know, like, why would he pay for my stuff?
	This makes no sense.
	You guys have to choose.
	Do you want to be strong, independent, equal women?
	Or do you want chivalry and protection and provision?
	You want the best of both.
	You want all of the rights and all of the privileges and you want none of the duties and none of the responsibilities.
	And that's bullshit.
	It's like you didn't have a mom to tell you that this isn't how the world works or something.
	Like, my daughters don't get that nonsense from me.
	I'm like, no, that's not how that works.
	So if you're like, why are you so entitled?
	That's what I want to do.
	If your daughters went on a first date, you want them to split the bill.
	What's that?
	If your daughters went on a first date, would you want them to split the bill?
	Only if they're going to be feminists, which they're not because I didn't raise them to be that way.
	Okay.
	That's how my parents' relationship is.
	It's like my mom does the same stuff that you described, and I think it's perfect.
	Like, my mom might not be contributing to rent.
	My dad makes the money, but she's contributing something else.
	She's doing a job that's just as equal as his job, but she's not getting paid because she's doing the household duties that returning to the house.
	She's doing the same thing, whether or not it's being paid.
	Like my parents are fortunate enough where my, my parents are fortunate enough where my dad makes enough money where she does enough to work and she's able to provide those things.
	Therefore, it's the same thing as money, in my opinion, like spending time and working around the house.
	Yeah, I mean, it even goes beyond division of labor.
	It's more than about division of labor.
	Like, I have a tremendous amount of respect for Andrew.
	He is the head of the household.
	He's the person that has the major burden of most of the responsibility.
	We've had a home invasion.
	He was the person who had to go deal with that and risk his life.
	You know, he's worked 60, 70 hour weeks for years so that I could stay home and our kids didn't have to be raised by strangers in daycare.
	I mean, there's a massive amount of responsibility on this man, and he's extremely competent.
	He is a really loving, honorable man who has like very firm boundaries and stands by them and takes very good care of his family.
	So he gets the big piece of chicken.
	He gets the respect.
	He gets the love and the admiration.
	And because I'm loyal and I'm doing all those things, then he provides for me and protects me and the kids.
	And yeah, I mean, this is how it works.
	Now, if you don't want that and you want this egalitarian stuff where we're equal partners, he's my partner, then you got to pay for your own shit.
	And you got to do your own work.
	And you better, like, you know, take care of all your own stuff.
	And don't expect the man to go answer the bump in the night because you're strong.
	You're equal, right?
	If you're equal, you can go take care of that.
	You can go deal with the man that breaks in in the middle of the night.
	You can change the tire in the rain.
	If the basement floods and there's sewage backing up into it, I guess you can go deal with that, right?
	So, you just have to choose.
	Don't do this bullshit where you're like, we're equal partners, except for when there's anything dirty, dangerous, difficult.
	That's all his job.
	I just sit here and grace him with my glorious presence.
	That's entitlement.
	That's narcissism.
	It's terrible behavior.
	It's ruining society.
	And then, on top of it, you feel no obligation to produce future generations.
	You want him to just let his lineage die with, you know, die with him.
	And you feel super entitled to that too.
	It's like, I don't understand why you can't get the concept that I've talked to my partner.
	I'm not taking away his ability to have children.
	We've both agreed we don't want to have children.
	If he doesn't want to have children, I'm not taking that away from him.
	To be fair, I did say he's a pathetic simp.
	So, I mean, that's right in line with being a pathetic simp.
	You just refused to women's choices.
	It's just, you guys are selfish materialists, is what I'm getting.
	Life is about me and my comfort and what I want, and my, you know, just, I live for me every day.
	I wake up with no thought of the future or any duties or responsibilities I have to anyone other than myself.
	And that's great.
	So it's like, if you want to live that way, I guess.
	But I just, I'm just looking at you and I'm listening to you, and I'm wondering where this entitlement and this sense of competence is coming from.
	I'm disabled because I don't want to have children and I like when men pay on first dates.
	That's entitlement.
	What are you useful for?
	I would say that women have intrinsic value.
	No, you.
	What are you purposefully?
	Well, I'm a woman, so I have intrinsic value.
	Sad that you don't see that.
	Why?
	How?
	Because I'm a person and everyone has value.
	It depends on who's looking at you.
	Do men have intrinsic value?
	Yeah, they do, but I said that it's different.
	It's a different type of value.
	But feminism is about equality.
	So if it's different, then I was at equal.
	No, they can be equal in the sense of they can both work.
	You can be a stay-at-home mom and not pursue a career.
	That's fine, but women should have the opportunity and the choice.
	So do you think women should work too?
	Women should be allowed to work.
	No, I mean, like, in your relationship, if you're not raising kids, should you both, in your marriage, let's say you get married, have a job, both of you.
	Yeah, but I think that a woman's job could be a little less harsh, I guess.
	Like, women shouldn't have to go work some nine-to-five and do this climbing of a corporate ladder.
	But like for myself, I've found a job that allows me to stay home and is not super strenuous.
	And I think that a lot of women should be able to have the option to either stay at home or work.
	What would you do?
	Lol Paladins donated $69.
	W to Rachel.
	Elta Fat Frawstitute feminists who have no value and TikTok key who wars who hate men and provide no value to society.
	The problem is they had mothers, but their mothers are bad people.
	My mother's amazing, and I love her very much.
	I'm just, it's wild to me because you asked, do I hear how my husband talks to women like that?
	Don't forget to share it of as well, including BG, and said she couldn't remember if she ever did B slash B slash G. Pretty sure anyone that's got gangbanged and posted it would remember.
	I have not gotten gangbanged, and BBG is not the same thing as a gangbang, but have you done that?
	Not too guys.
	GMD Jim donated $69.
	You called him your partner.
	Partners split expenses.
	Two more.
	He is not your husband.
	He could just hire a cleaner and a prostitute with a nice body.
	You are just too ungrateful, leech.
	I don't think he would agree with that, but okay.
	There's another one coming in, random bears.
	Random Lundus Corbert donated $69.
	Rachel be like, I got out of bed for this and look this good.
	I will bring the heat.
	I look terrible.
	I look terrible, but thank you.
	It's fine.
	It's fine.
	You're shaking your head.
	Hey, star.
	That's not very judgment.
	Also, Rachel looks very dapp.
	Rachel looks very dapped.
	I literally just put on face cream and was like fucking myself into bed and Andrew comes upstairs.
	Rachel is Titus 245.
	What's that?
	That's the Titus, the Titus 2 wife.
	It's like a description of what an honorable woman is and how she acts and operates in the world.
	So thank you.
	That's a lovely compliment.
	I certainly have my flaws.
	It's not like I'm over here being a perfect wife or anything, but the point is I try and I care about, you know, Brian's Lynn Roller donated $69.
	Rachel is out of the kitchen, but she's still fugging, cooking.
	Okay.
	Now, since Rachel also came down, she wanted to address, I guess, your criticisms.
	You said, Andrew, he has animosity towards women and that he hates women.
	Captain donated $69.
	I definitely take a bullet for the girl in the white crop top.
	This girl is based and hot.
	The world needs more of that.
	She'd be a great woman for any man.
	Or girl.
	I want to address the gal with the pink hair real quick because I did hear her say that.
	It is not hatred to criticize women.
	It is in no way hateful to notice when women are acting like entitled narcissists and to call them out on that.
	Like I said, all the women at this table could tell me all night long about what they think they deserve and what their rights are and what they should have and what they ought be able to do.
	But none of you can tell me what duties, responsibilities, or obligations you have outside of yourself to society, to the people around you.
	You would say things like, I'm smart and I'm funny and I'm just a really great person and I'm a good friend and you know all these worthless platitudes.
	But there's no like sacrifice.
	You don't ever feel you need to sacrifice anything for anyone outside yourself.
	You're not willing to have sleepless nights so that you can raise babies and produce human beings that are going to go out into the world and have a legacy and have an effect, right?
	You're not really willing to do much of anything unless it benefits you.
	And then if someone questions, if Andrew comes on here and says, let me poke around and see why you think these things.
	Let me see if there's any logic behind your beliefs.
	Let me see if you even understand why you believe the things you believe.
	You think that's hateful.
	You think that's misogynistic.
	You think he's mean.
	No, it's just that you're used to being treated like a child princess and being carried around on a cushy little pillow in life with absolutely no opposition, with nobody ever going, hey, wait, what are you doing?
	What are you providing life?
	What are you doing for anyone else outside yourself?
	You haven't ever been challenged on anything because you're a pretty girl, right?
	I'm young and I'm cute.
	Why are you questioning me?
	Why are you so hateful?
	Where's all the trauma?
	No, I'm just a 44-year-old woman who's actually lived, raised five children, worked really hard in my life for everything I have.
	I take care of, you know, other family members.
	I help at my church.
	I do things that aren't just for me.
	So when I see girls that behave this way and have this mentality, you're damn right I'm gonna come on here and say some shit, especially if I get dragged out of bed to defend, you know, this little girl that's saying my husband must be traumatized and hates women.
	It's just garbage.
	You're full of shit.
	You have no idea what you're talking about.
	So these are people from the Orthodox Church.
	You guys seem lovely.
	I would love to go to the Orthodox Church.
	I think you're a specific person.
	Okay, coming from someone who I know personally, I'm not a 10.
	I am very self-aware in that regard.
	I think that there might be animosity coming from you because you're maybe not as good looking.
	Oh, I'm definitely not.
	I've been on the show.
	I've rated myself.
	But I grew up in an era where we didn't all think we were models.
	When you were growing up in the 80s and 90s, everyone didn't think they were a 10.
	Like all of us girls who were not going to have modeling careers or be the hot cheerleader, we all knew that and we were fine with it.
	And we didn't think we deserved six foot, six pack, six figure man.
	You know, we were just like happy to meet a nice boy who liked us back.
	This was before.
	You're calling all those boys narcissistic insanity.
	Huh?
	You're calling those boys simps.
	No, I'm calling your boy a simp.
	He's a simp.
	That's simp.
	A nice boy who likes you isn't the same thing as some absolute goober who's going to pay for all your crap.
	He's not paying for everything.
	I'm just saying at the beginning of the relationship on the first couple dates, a man should take the investment and pay for the first couple dates.
	She's not paying for everything.
	She said that his family's paying for some.
	Yeah.
	And I think it's only fair that I pay a portion of rent.
	For a girlfriend?
	You're not even married.
	Like, why would his family pay for your stuff?
	You're not.
	This guy said that they're not.
	They're not something.
	They all own a home and I help with some of the bills.
	She pays some of the mortgage.
	I pay some of the mortgage.
	My question is, it's not even fitting to the dynamic that you're expressing so much interest in.
	Like, you're expressing so much interest in not only the first dates, but that you also want to be supported by this person.
	And I think that means not paying any bills or doing any sort of housework or like helping in the relationship.
	Like, I don't think that it's entitled.
	I just think that it's a better dynamic long term for a man who has the financial stability to be with them rather than a man who doesn't have any sort of future plan to provide for you.
	Do you think the woman needs a future or plan, though?
	I think that women should, and this might be controversial to, is she gone?
	She's here.
	She's still here?
	Okay.
	I think it might be controversial, but I think women, even if they're not working a traditional nine-to-five, should have some sort of money saved up separate from their husbands in case there's domestic violence or there's divorce or things like that.
	Like you should have some of your own income.
	I think you need a keepsake of like if there's domestic violence.
	I think like you should be contributing.
	Yeah, like you should feel safe in your relationship and like pick something.
	If you want a job, just that's equal.
	Or you can do the equal housework or have kids.
	Like there's an equality thing that's different.
	Feminists believe that there's equality, but you're talking about things not being equal.
	I think it is equal.
	I am going to jump off here because Andrew's going to come back and I do.
	I'm actually going to go to bed.
	But is anybody, does anybody have any like final questions or phones to make?
	I think Star back there had like a thing she wanted to come back and say.
	I'm just curious if anyone on the sorry what?
	I really don't have anything to say to her.
	I'm just curious if anyone else on the show has brought up like internalized misogyny to you.
	Yeah, I get it every day of my life.
	So, you don't know my background, but I'm an uh, I wrote a book about the history of feminism and how almost everything that the normal person thinks about it is actually wrong.
	The way that the feminist liberation movements unfolded is garbage that was rewritten history by women's studies departments.
	Um, and I debate feminists all the time, so this is normal for me.
	Of course, I've heard absolute garbage bullshit like internalized misogyny.
	It's not a thing, it doesn't exist, it's pure coke.
	Okay, um, I love women, but I do think that women have proper roles.
	And I think that the biggest problem, the problem with you and most of the other girls that have a problem with me, is that you don't understand that this modern world and all this beautiful technology around you that you're sitting in right now.
	If it weren't for men building that and maintaining that, you would have no illusion of being able to be a strong, independent woman and have all these choices and do what you want.
	But why do men do all of that?
	They do it because they're benevolent and they are good.
	Isn't that crazy?
	They're actually really nice and they care about us, even though they don't have to.
	But they're getting something out of us.
	If men were as bad and misogynistic as you think, they would put us in cages and we'd be, you know, baby farms.
	There would be baby farms.
	I think you might be a little bit of a baby farm.
	Because they could.
	No, they could.
	You're a bit of a baby farm.
	Haven't you popped out five children?
	Yeah.
	You're a baby farm.
	Oh.
	I think that's the ultimate form of sex work, actually.
	What's that?
	I think that you popping out five children is the ultimate form of sex work.
	Because without those children, would your husband provide freedom?
	Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	Why are you using degrading language?
	Popping out babies.
	Popping out babies?
	This is against people having babies?
	If you didn't provide children, would your husband marry you?
	No.
	Exactly.
	Why should he?
	Exactly.
	So you're a baby farm to him.
	Married farmers.
	These are my children.
	Yeah.
	A family.
	These are my children.
	You shouldn't be so lucky because you're going to die alone.
	Talk that early.
	Thank you so much.
	On top of that.
	Thank you so much.
	I mean, if you, would you like me to go wake up my children and get them down here too so you can tell them that they're like gross little females?
	I don't think it's appropriate.
	I don't think it's really appropriate.
	That they're the result of baby farm.
	I mean, take your little, snarky little insults and shove them up your ass because it's women like me.
	It's women like me.
	My children.
	My parents only had women.
	My parents only.
	You're useless.
	You are a useless heifer who has never done anything except you're a very godly woman.
	Both of you be nice.
	You started it.
	Hey, you can dish it out, but you can't do it.
	I started it.
	Didn't you come on?
	You're talking about McFlurries or something?
	You called me a baby farm and now you're going to pretend to be offended.
	Get the fuck out.
	I said you're the ultimate sex worker, actually.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, me being devoted to one man for 17 years and giving him a sex worker.
	You're the ultimate sex.
	So your parents are all supportive of baby farm because you were born.
	My mom had one child and she also worked.
	But I know that my parents would have gotten married without having to have children.
	If I milk a cow, the cow's still providing milk, though, even if I only milk him once.
	So you're co-current.
	We don't believe that marriage is only for the purpose of children.
	Had we gotten married and for some reason, biologically, I couldn't, I had a medical issue and could not give Andrew children, he would not have divorced me and he would not have left me.
	That's not what we believe in.
	We believe that marriage is also a sacrament of our church.
	You don't get divorced for a reason like that.
	However, why would a man marry a woman who's giving him nothing like you are?
	You don't bring you just being us.
	Like, you just don't see that.
	You people, but that's different than what a man would want to get married for.
	Why do you not understand these basic distinctions?
	A man could want to get married without wanting to have children, but that's not what your husband did with you, honey.
	No man does that except for a simp.
	Or some guy who's just some men just don't want to have a family.
	Sweetie.
	Sweetie, honey.
	Yeah, I love these feminists.
	Sweetie, honey.
	They get so sassy, but this is going to be.
	You're very sassy.
	Yeah.
	Well, listen, I was dragged out of bed because you're sitting here insulting my husband and saying, oh, your wife must be some victim, or there must be trauma.
	Maybe your wife is bad to you.
	You're saying all kinds of personal garbage.
	And then when I come on here and tell you what's what, you're like, how dare she?
	She's so mean.
	She's not a good Christian.
	It's like, well, then don't say this stupid shit, lady.
	Don't come on here and talk a bunch of smack.
	And then when I come down here and set you straight, you're like, I'm shocked and offended.
	You definitely didn't set anyone straight.
	Oh, well, the chat disagrees with you.
	And it's straight, not straight.
	I don't know.
	Why do you do this weird thing where they say straight?
	You're just pandering.
	I think it shows the type of woman you are.
	The fact that you got out of bed and came down here to not only defend your husband, but to defend women at the right instinct that they should be in.
	So I.
	The main reason I do the stuff I do is because I was really shamed for not going down a career path.
	I had a full college scholarship that I declined because I wanted to be a mom instead.
	And everyone around me thought it was some massive tragedy, that I was going down the wrong path.
	I was going to regret not being a career babe.
	Everybody said, oh, it's such a shame you're just a mom.
	And turns out there's nothing I could have done with my life that's more meaningful than having five children, raising them well, and being a good mom.
	There's nothing I could do in the career world that's going to last the way that that will have a lasting impact in this world.
	And I was shamed for it.
	And I was made to feel like, oh, I was losing somehow in life.
	So, yeah, I don't want other women to feel that way.
	I want to stick up for women who do want to be good wives, who do want to be good mothers, who think that that's a worthwhile thing to do with their lives, and not have them be subject to being called baby factories by disrespectful, chunky heifers with attitude problems who can't even properly articulate a single thought in their head.
	So, with that, I'm going to go to bed, and you guys can talk to the nice Wilson instead.
	Maybe you'll feel better now when he comes back.
	Continue pandering to Matt.
	Rachel, shoot.
	Good night, Rachel.
	I was going to let the TTSs come through.
	I had to pause them temporarily just so we could allow Rachel to have the back and forth.
	So, a couple TTSs are going to go through.
	We're going to try to wrap up the show here pretty soon.
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	Just tuning in.
	Wait, this blue whale only dates $1 million plus earners to cover the food bill when her fattest gets in the car.
	The tire sensors pop on.
	Bro.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Warlord 69U who donated $69.
	Baby Farm, you are the ultimate farm when you're eating for more than two PPA.
	Do better.
	You guys only fuel the weight loss.
	Like, do you not realize I've already lost seven years?
	Are you guys starch fat-shaming me, boys?
	I need to lose some weight.
	Yeah, I got a dad ball.
	Get on me, guys.
	Fuck roast me.
	Giovanni, this is the roast section, it's the roast section.
	Thank you, Giovanni.
	Growing a family with your loving husband is a baby farm.
	Farming produces commodities.
	People with children don't see them as commodities.
	Exposed yourself and your view on children.
	I'm just saying it's a very important thing.
	By the way, you were totally anti-natalist.
	I just want to point that out.
	Totally anti-natalist.
	Antinatalist?
	Anti-natalist.
	Like people who need help with getting pregnant.
	You called my wife a breeder and said that she was a sex worker because she had my children.
	I mean, that's kind of what it comes down to to a certain point.
	Like, you would not marry and provide for her if she could not have your children.
	You should probably have to.
	I don't think you understand the distinction in faith.
	They talked to me.
	And that within the moment.
	She talked about how he would still, he would not divorce her if she couldn't have children.
	But the beginning stages of their relationship were that they decided they were going to have children.
	If she said she didn't want to, he would not have married her and provided for.
	How do you even know that?
	We talked to her.
	No, we talked to her.
	You're just kind of making these broad assumptions.
	But the thing is, is that she asked this fantastic question.
	So what?
	What would be the problem with a man having a preference of a woman who promises him children so his lineage can live on?
	How would that make her a prostitute?
	That's insanity.
	That's not what I'm calling a prostitute.
	I'm saying that it's the ultimate form of sex work.
	Then that would be the ultimate form of prostitution.
	They're not the same thing.
	She had to have sex with you in order to make the children of the world.
	To say that women dating culture is too generous.
	It's anti-life.
	Men, the marshal, they provide, and women are their dignity in exchange.
	Death for men, humiliation for women.
	Whatever.
	It's anti-life.
	Men, the marshal, they provide.
	GMD Jim donated $69.
	Holy shite.
	Did the beluga say that Rachel is not attractive?
	Rachel is the most attractive woman currently on this show.
	Hey, Crisco, you will never be worth 1% of Rachel Wilson.
	I was saying, I didn't say that she was unattractive.
	I said there might be animosity towards Star because Star is considered more attractive.
	Wolfie Poo donated $69.
	Got she's awesome, right?
	What you're doing is you're making this kind of argument, which says the only reason Rachel thinks is because she's jealous of X.
	It's a non-argument.
	I say the same thing.
	I say the only reason you make an anti-natalist argument is because you're jealous you don't have children.
	I wouldn't make such an argument because it's absurd.
	It's an absurd argument.
	It's not absurd to think that she has internalized misogyny because a more attractive woman is trying to say that you are basically angry.
	All you're saying is that all that you're saying here with your argument is it's not absurd if it were true.
	That's not an argument.
	That's not demonstrating it's true.
	It's just asserting that it's true.
	Demonstrate Rachel Wilson is jealous of fucking any of you.
	Go ahead.
	I'll wait.
	I'm sure deep down she might be.
	Okay, are you going to demonstrate it or are you just going to assert it?
	Excuse me.
	Sorry, guys.
	It might be just an internal thing that happens when someone has internal existence.
	No logic, no nothing.
	You just made it up.
	Well, you're the one who's the whole argument.
	Okay, Andrew, you're the one who said that every woman sitting here is making judgments in their head about who's more attractive.
	So your wife doesn't do that.
	No, I didn't say that she wouldn't make a judgment as to who's more attractive or less attractive, but that wouldn't make her jealous or not jealous.
	Yes, it would.
	Yes, it would.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	I'm sorry.
	Are you saying that I could claim that another man is better looking than me and that would mean I was jealous of him?
	Or a woman could claim another woman is better looking than her and you're jealous of them?
	Does that even make fucking sense to you?
	Yes, it could cause some animosity.
	No, no, no.
	Stop inserting the word could.
	That's very sneaky with the language.
	Anything could do anything.
	Does it entail, if you understand a person next to you is more attractive than you, that that means you're jealous of them?
	Does it actually mean that or not?
	I think your wife might be jealous of the fact that.
	I'm just answering my question.
	Answer the question.
	Don't divert again.
	Answer the question.
	I think your wife could potentially be jealous.
	Could potentially, I think.
	No demonstration, no evidence, just wild assertions that you came up with on the cup because you had no argument.
	Hold on, really quick.
	We'll get right back to it.
	Nick, you got to leave soon, right?
	So why don't we, before you leave, let's pull up Twitch, Discord, and Debate University.
	So guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you've been enjoying the stream.
	If you're watching on YouTube, open another tab.
	Twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow.
	If you're watching, if you have a Prime sub available, maybe you guys can check.
	It would mean the world to me if you guys do have a Prime sub available.
	It's been one hour since our last Prime.
	You know what that means?
	It could be buzz.
	Drop those Prime subs on Twitch or whatever.
	I mean, we have to.
	Yeah.
	Those are the rules.
	Are you guys watching on the Crucible?
	Those of you who are watching on the Crucible, just drop us a follow.
	If you guys liked seeing Rachel just come in there all randomly, we need to see you spamming the follow button.
	Just a follow.
	Don't worry.
	If you got a Prime, if you got a Prime, you can drop one.
	Virtual Self, thing for the Prime.
	Scatterman, thing for the Prime.
	Shobs, thing for the Tier 1.
	Tube, 1980, thing for the Prime.
	Guys, drop us a follow over there on Twitch.
	You can probably move us over.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's debateuniversity.com.
	Oh, I'll do Discord after, I guess.
	Yeah, debateuniversity.com.
	If you want to learn how to become a master debater like Andrew Wilson, you want to learn how to debate like Andrew Wilson, you got to go to debateuniversity.com, get his course, verbal combat, over 80 plus hours, or sorry, sorry, not 80 plus hours, excuse me, 80 plus videos.
	There's about six hours of content.
	Guys, listen, it's that time of year.
	Thanksgiving and Christmas is around the corner.
	So if you want to dominate your liberal family members at dinner, go to debateuniversity.com.
	You got to get the course.
	DebateUniversity.com.
	It really is a fantastic course.
	But as you can see, in the difference in erratic thinking versus logical thinking, in reasonable thinking versus just random assertions in people who actually know how to structure thoughts in a correct way without making completely fallacious and erratic and stupid arguments, that would be the place to go.
	Debate University.
	Hold on.
	Verbal conduct and verbal abuse.
	Oh boy.
	Okay, hold on.
	Let me just say that.
	No, let's not say that.
	Let me just get through the Discord.
	Go to your fake phony preacher and tell him the mean ortho bros told us that we're fucking stupid and can't make arguments for our positions.
	Go cry to him and tell him that you don't feel the spirit of Christ.
	Go tell him that.
	Go tell him.
	I hope you're not.
	And then have this female preacher come out and pat you on the head.
	I hope you're not.
	If I lose 100 pounds, will you stop smoking?
	Oh my gosh.
	Absolutely not.
	Okay.
	Wait, okay, really quick.
	Since Nick's got to go, guys, we had a literally shaking quit.
	It's the first in the whatever history.
	I will be posting the BTS security camera footage to our Discord.
	It's Discord.
	If you can put us just on the other side, discord.gg slash whatever.
	I will post it probably tomorrow.
	Discord.gg slash whatever.
	You sign up through Patreon, patreon.com slash whatever.
	Guys, guys, discord.gg slash whatever.
	We'll post in the BTS behind the scenes section over there on discord.gg slash whatever.
	If you want to see the first ever literally shaking quit.
	And if you want to learn, again, verbal abuse, go to verbal combat.
	You can pick up verbal combat from Debate University.
	You can learn all of the verbal abuse, which is actually just logical argumentation, which offends people because they have no positions and they don't even know how to articulate what they're saying.
	Makes no sense.
	And they spew verbal diarrhea.
	Make sure you get all the verbal abuse over there.
	I would certainly appreciate it.
	I feel like you're demons speaking through you.
	You verbally abused me.
	Demons are speaking through you.
	I feel verbally abused.
	You can't even condemn.
	You can't even condemn a certain sect and say that they don't belong to Christianity, but I'm the one who has demons speaking through me.
	Why don't you go parade your rainbow flag through your church next time you go there?
	Lol Paladins donated $69.
	Welcome back, Pinky.
	You're safe again now that Rachel is gone.
	You can fake being happy again.
	Feminist whore is just a brainwashed death cultist who believes that humans should go extinct.
	See, this is how Rachel's pandering.
	She's just pandering.
	There's a few more coming in.
	She completely obliterated your entire worldview in 15 seconds.
	It wasn't even different.
	She's pandering to a male audience.
	Trad Catholic, thank you for the TTS, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Thank you, brother.
	Thank you, brother.
	We got a few more that are coming through.
	Guys, we're just going to do the roast session, and then we'll wrap up the show here pretty soon.
	TTS has been lowered, so if you want to get it in, if you want to...
	Wait, what the hell happened here?
	Hold on.
	Andrew, you remember me?
	Question mark.
	I do remember you, yeah.
	Thank you.
	All right, cool.
	Probably because you look a lot like my black ex-wife.
	You know what?
	We'll bring her on, and we'll see what she's doing.
	She's been in the chat most of the night.
	She's sending a ton of gifted subs.
	I guess I must have left an impression on my black ex-wife.
	Okay, well, make sure you leave an impression on Brian because he disincluding my people.
	Wait, what?
	What?
	He do the big libya, that BLM.
	But he won't do that.
	He won't do a black girlfriend.
	How about that?
	Wait, right.
	I would date a black girl.
	I would date a black girl.
	You said that.
	Skaterboy donated $69.
	Wow, time and where tomorrow.
	Boom tested.
	What?
	Lindsay, memory check.
	What time and where?
	Brian, you're not going for the sisters?
	He was a skater boy.
	I said, see you later.
	I've dated a black woman once.
	This looks like some coke, Brian.
	I've dated black women.
	You're African American.
	I'm African-American.
	I date African Americans.
	Yeah.
	Oh, wait, did I?
	She.
	She.
	No, he told me he didn't.
	He said it earlier.
	He was like, well, you were talking about all your little girlfriends cleaning up your house.
	He donated $69.
	Pink, Andrew only emphasized the LGBTSU because you were commanded by Christ to defend his law.
	To be Christian is to expect persecution and hatred.
	Stand strong.
	Do not cover evil, Peter.
	That's not that's not niceness.
	Oh, I mean, it is niceness.
	It's not kindness.
	Kindness, kindness, terminal.
	Donated $30.
	W Rachel, Andrew, you have a heck of a wife.
	God bless you both.
	Pink princess needs some life lessons and Christ crop top second chair.
	Well-based stay sober.
	And awesome cheers to Brian, Madison, and Morgan.
	Hey, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Guys, $30 TTS.
	We'll do it for a bit, and then we'll wrap the show here.
	Church underscore of underscore Thiantology donated $30.
	One, being the lead singer of OB slash C D is now the least of your unattractive qualities.
	Care to Avril Latrine.
	Three female Michelle Obama.
	Four strawberry shiptake.
	Five, too genetic to insult.
	Brian, stay dumpy.
	Stay dumpy.
	Stay dumpies are saying that to you.
	So if you guys want to get your $30 TTS in, everything should have been swapped over.
	Body count.
	Are you pointing at me?
	Yeah.
	24.
	How many men?
	How many women?
	Mostly women.
	What's the breakdown?
	Give us the breakdown.
	Six men.
	And I regret part of my body count.
	I got kicked out of treatment at 14 because I hosted a sex party.
	I got kicked out because they were all like.
	Dario Donato.
	So I'm not proud of $100.
	W. Andrew.
	W. Brixam.
	W. Rachel.
	Good show tonight.
	Are we up for watching the Bo Video?
	Also to the panel.
	Would you bow for your man?
	Show of hands, would you bow for...
	Wait, actually, we'll show the video first.
	Wait, hold on, really quick.
	You had a sex party?
	Yeah, I got kicked out.
	I actually hold Brian.
	I'm sorry.
	I have an appointment in the morning.
	I have to get to.
	Oh, okay.
	I have to bow out a little bit early tonight.
	It's 3 a.m. here.
	Thank you, guys.
	Thank you to the entire panel.
	Just so you know, I hold no ill will and I never hold grudges, never have.
	I consider these to be spirited back and forth when we do have them, but I hold no grudges to any of you, and it was very nice to meet all of you.
	With exception to nobody, I really appreciate it.
	You guys have a great night.
	Hey, Andrew, thanks for joining us, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Wait, can I say something?
	Freddy Louise.
	Sure.
	Okay, I watched some of your debates and with men as well.
	And I think that you hold your ground very well with both aspects of genders when you debate.
	I don't treat anybody any differently.
	It doesn't matter if they're men or women.
	I'm just going to hold the ground not only from my worldview, but from my political perspective as well.
	I treat everybody the same.
	It's just that men seem to take it far less personal than women because women are pampered princesses who like to have their asses kissed.
	So anyway, I appreciate it very much.
	You guys have a wonderful day.
	Hey, thank you for your time.
	We'll pray for you.
	I'm sure your wife would like to be pampered like a princess.
	So, Austin, in the sources tab over there, to hide this, you're gonna.
	You see the sources tab up top?
	No.
	Sources tab.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Turn off center.
	It's it's okay.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Just listen to my voice.
	Okay, so there's.
	Oh, yes, Yeah, so scroll down a little bit there.
	Yeah, hide the Discord one.
	Perfect.
	And then on center zoom here, I'm going to have you hide the Discord there too.
	And then also, we're going to change split.
	Let me see.
	Yeah.
	Hide the Discord one on split, and we'll keep it there.
	Okay.
	Cool, cool, cool.
	So, oh, hold on.
	Let me see.
	Oh, I got to let them come through.
	Okay, we're going to have some come through, guys.
	Got some TTSs coming through.
	Guys, like the video, please.
	Porphyro, like the video.
	If you enjoyed the stream, like the video, feminists didn't create the anti-baby belief.
	They only parrot what they were taught as young children, Sesame Street.
	Globalist millionaires who want an empty world for their own children to control.
	Right-wing donated $29.99.
	Brian has a fat tum-tum, and Andrew has big tatatas.
	Pinky has no brain.
	Sorry, whale.
	KFC is closed tonight after Rachel cooked all the chicken.
	Brian, do 30 push-ups a day.
	Okay.
	I gotta lose weight.
	Brian's Twitch Prime bug donated $30.
	Oops.
	Sorry, it's my fault.
	There's a bunch of cobwebs in here and a laughing spider, the likes of which sounds like Carmela Harris.
	Also, it looks like Gustavo is here and tied up.
	R.I.P. You guys are so funny.
	Oh, body count?
	Hilary Epstein donated $30.
	W Maddie, not in simp way.
	W Stream, W Discord, www.
	Thanks, Hillary Epstein.
	Discord.gg slash whatever.
	I'm going to post the literally shaking BTS security camera footage tomorrow, probably.
	Literally shaking.
	Like the video.
	$30 TTS, get it in.
	Last call, last call, guys.
	Ray, really quick before you get up.
	So, wait, you said body count 24, right?
	Yeah.
	How many guys?
	How many girls?
	Six guys, I believe.
	I got the list on notes.
	But bro, you had a blank party at 14?
	It was framework engineer donated $30.
	Adarol Levine isn't going to make dinner tomorrow.
	Sorry.
	She's going to be busy ruining her mascara and getting a sore throat if she knows what's good for her.
	Otherwise, it's back in the cage.
	Oh.
	Thank you, engineer.
	Appreciate it.
	He's threatening you, basically.
	Okay, cool.
	Going around the table with you, body count.
	I plead the fifth.
	Do you want to give us a range?
	No.
	Do you think the passion matters?
	I think it matters to a certain partner.
	I've definitely had partners who I had a higher body count than and it made them feel insecure.
	So I just, unless my partner is asking me to bring it up, then I think out of courtesy, I probably wouldn't bring it up on my own.
	Sure.
	And wait, did you do you think body count matters though?
	I genuinely don't think so.
	Body count.
	Oh.
	I don't want to say.
	I can't be the only one.
	Yeah, don't leave your girl hanging.
	Dude, I would have pleaded.
	Okay, no, no.
	But like, the thing is, I don't want to have to put it together because I have been with girls before, so it's like probably a bigger list than I. What's the guy list?
	What's the girl list?
	Single digit, double-digit, or two-digit.
	Give the range somewhere with under 20, under 10.
	I mean, well, somewhere like mixed and this is, I don't know.
	You can give me like maybe a couple minutes and I'll going around the table.
	Don't want to answer.
	No.
	Eleven.
	Mia.
	Eleven.
	Eleven.
	Great.
	Fuck me.
	Morgan.
	Uno.
	Okay.
	Idiot donated $30.
	In dating, men's only value is external things they bring.
	In exchange, women give their dignity for those external things.
	This is reflected in the men and women on the podcast.
	Note a baby farmer donated $30.
	W Chair 1, you held your own.
	You know what?
	If you're down to come back, maybe we'll have you and Rachel do a 1v1 debate.
	I don't know if I want to see her in person.
	She's harmless.
	Mike Mafia donated $30.
	I see a lot of great qualities in the women on this panel compared to most I have seen.
	Well, except the cookie monster.
	Bro, please don't talk about me that way.
	I'm very sensitive about my weight, okay?
	I don't appreciate that.
	Brave Pappy donated $30.
	I don't appreciate that.
	Brian, please remove the phrase it's not clear to me from your vocabulary.
	I do say that.
	It sounds so unsure and lame-may F. Be more assertive.
	Should it be like, it's clear to me.
	Hey, Brian, have you heard of Patrice O'Neill's 30-point system for rating looks?
	He talks about it in Black Philip's show.
	I think it's much better.
	He calls Uma Thurman attend a beautiful ugly woman lol.
	I actually saw that.
	L-Panel.
	First chair was awful.
	True religion was decent.
	WW sex isn't real, so BC is six.
	Black shirt made the one true church look bad.
	That's evil.
	Pink loves Christ so better.
	Pink hat greater than Maddie.
	Love you.
	Russ Fox donated $30.
	Hey, Bri Chacho, I've got some show ideas.
	Hit Mike DM.
	Question/slash challenge for the whole panel.
	Claim accountability for a mistake you've made and learned from in a relationship which has made you grow.
	Claim accountability.
	Are they asking if we've ever claimed accountability for a mistake you've made and learned from in a relationship was made you grow?
	Yes.
	So what is it?
	A mistake that has made you grow.
	Have you made Madison?
	Uh, probably like leading someone on.
	Hmm.
	Like knowing I was.
	I guess the only mistake I've ever made is never having made a mistake.
	You can't learn from me.
	You know, like it's it's not fun for the girl if you're just too perfect and amazing.
	You're so real for that.
	It's it's not fun for her.
	I mean that's true, but I was just too perfect and amazing.
	I think I shouldn't trust so easily.
	Because I genuinely believe that people have sealed.
	Oh, the bow video.
	Oh, uh, I don't know.
	Austin, you think you can figure it out or not?
	Yes.
	Oops.
	Yeah, Carrie.
	Oh, yeah.
	Hold on.
	Let me hide that.
	I'll hide this.
	Okay, go ahead and hit the play.
	Yeah.
	No, we don't need no volume.
	Just boom.
	Huge, huge bow.
	Huge bow.
	Huge bow.
	Anyways.
	Starting from the beginning, we'll just see the bow again.
	If you can just like drag the little thing in part two.
	He's got it.
	He's got it.
	There we go.
	Boom.
	Boom.
	Huge.
	So going around the table, would you bow for your man?
	I've seen you guys talk about this on the podcast before.
	If it was something in our culture or something that my boyfriend or future husband would really want me to do, then I would do it.
	I don't really feel like it's.
	I've seen people have strong opinions on this.
	I don't get it.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	Would you hit a bow for your first?
	Every morning, every night after I tuck him into bed and read them a bedtime story.
	Beautiful.
	Based.
	It's beautiful.
	Every morning, fucking amazing.
	Would you hit a bow?
	I'm only bowing for a man if I'm doing one thing.
	What?
	There's only one thing I bow for.
	What?
	She means sucking dicks.
	I'm just a little slow.
	It doesn't add to the body.
	Wait, no, no, no, no, wait, no, wait.
	Because I actually go to a Buddhist university and I have to deal with bowing to people all the time.
	So I only bow to people when I feel like they'll understand that I'm trying to show them respect.
	So if I'm doing that with a man, everyone at the Buddhist church.
	No, If I'm doing something with a man, I'm like, I'm like, okay, well, I actually like to do that.
	So I might just do that.
	But that's the only time I'll bow.
	I only get on my knees for God.
	Never.
	Would you bow for a man?
	We would just bow to God.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I would bow.
	Morgan.
	Oh.
	No.
	Oh, no.
	Okay.
	That's a later.
	David Tuzekiak donated $30.
	Thank you, David.
	Serious respect to all the people who debated on the panel.
	What is the shaking quit?
	Was busy watching DNC earlier.
	Make Brian pay for Galita in N-Out for You All.
	Brian, please go back to wait what?
	How are you trying to say Brian going in and out?
	But Brian will watch yourself.
	We'll get there.
	So, wait, Austin, what was she saying to you?
	She basically said that she just got her blood drawn before she came and was like shaking because of it, and then also she just couldn't take the whole experience.
	Did she donate blood or did she just get a blood draw for she didn't specify?
	I don't know.
	I highly doubt she donated blood.
	To be alert, I am lenient.
	I'm shaky right now.
	My blood sugar is low, which is why I ate a sandwich.
	And like, but I didn't leave.
	GMD Jim donated $30 in the chat star.
	Find a man to give you half a dozen.
	Brian, your dumpy does need work.
	Pinky, you really do need a legit exorcism.
	Max K donated $30.
	Bricks and try the carnivore diet.
	You'll lose weight, eat delicious steaks, and trigger more feminist live tards.
	Oh, you know what?
	Date offer donated $30.
	I'll answer the carnivore.
	Lindsay, would coordinating a fake kidnapping that brought you to a red carpet five-star restaurant be the threatening request you need?
	Yes, 100%.
	Only the red carpet five-star Michelin.
	Yo, Max K, I actually did the carnivore diet for 30 days.
	It was really hard.
	I lost a decent amount of weight, but the problem was it was so difficult to adhere to it.
	Maybe I needed like, I mean, 30 days was a pretty solid commitment.
	It was just all I had was salt, meat, eggs, butter, water.
	That's it.
	I was going to try coffee.
	I was going to try.
	I'm on a different diet.
	I shouldn't have led with salt.
	I should have.
	It should have been steak, eggs, salt.
	Salt's a rich carnivore diet.
	Water.
	No pepper.
	No veggies, no car, none of that.
	It was hard.
	Yeah, I lost like a broken.
	I lost like 10 pounds, but then like, I was so I gained it all back within like you have to adjust to it because your butt, it's like ketosis.
	That's what I was on it for 30 days.
	That show was hard, man.
	I'll do it again eventually.
	Giovanni Jade, you donated $30.
	It's Brian, you promised explanation of the after-show drama from last day.
	I'm sorry, Giovanni.
	Don't honeydick me.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry, Giovanni.
	I'll have to maybe do it next show.
	I gotta do the next show because it's already late.
	All right, guys, last call.
	You want to get a little TTS in in the chat?
	Just remember, boys, big labia matter, like the video.
	$29, $30, $30, $30 TTS.
	Let's see, GG.
	Well played to the panel.
	Last call.
	Hit the like button, please.
	On your way out, thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You can anywhere in the world, but you were here with me.
	I really appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	Your generosity is greatly appreciated.
	Couldn't do the show without you guys.
	So thank you so much, everybody, who sent in a chat.
	Really appreciate it.
	We will be live again Sunday.
	We might be doing maybe, we'll have to see.
	Maybe something Friday, Saturday.
	Gotta see.
	But we will certainly be live again Sunday with our dating talk 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out with ever on Instagram.
	If you can make it to Santa Barbara, let me just see.
	I'll do Twitch, try to get a Twitch raid going for somebody.
	Let's see.
	One sec, boys.
	One sec.
	Any final thoughts before I wrap up the show?
	Speak now forever.
	Hold your peace.
	I do want to say something.
	One of the TTS said something about being able to recommend your mistake, whatever.
	Something.
	Yes, I have a mistake when it comes to dating.
	Is I always try to make sure that people see me as trustworthy instead of me making sure that they are trustworthy.
	So I really wanted to say that.
	But yeah.
	Amen.
	Lord donated $40.
	The big one.
	The coat hanger survivor.
	That big one is demonic and it hates Andrew and Rachel because they speak a truth that cannot be known by it.
	I've never had a coat hanger.
	Rip Trich and Rare donated $30.
	Fat boy Andrew should be the last one talking shit about someone's weight.
	He has bigger tits than all the girls on panels combined.
	Rick Boy, jiggle them big old titties.
	Jiggly M. Big Tits.
	He's gone.
	He's gone.
	Thank you for the TTS there, bro.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Who are we rating on Twitch?
	We'll do while I'm figuring that out, who's the primary victim of war, men or women?
	Everyone involved in war, it's pretty awful.
	Men.
	But if you have to pick one, I would say men physically die more in war, so I'd say men.
	What about you?
	Men.
	Mm-hmm.
	Men.
	Men.
	Babies and baby animals.
	Men.
	Into the mic.
	Babies and baby animals.
	All right, guys.
	Guys, I just want to do a quick shout out.
	Get Ariana Grande's new album.
	Thank you next.
	Thank you next.
	Lord, God is a woman.
	God is a woman.
	That is the one.
	We should have really leaned in.
	Every time Star talked, we should have just, as soon as she finished, thank you next.
	Yes.
	Every single time.
	Every single time to be extra extra.
	Who?
	I don't know if anybody's, I don't know.
	This guy's playing Wukong.
	I don't know if I want to rate, I guess I'll just do my grandma.
	We can't even pull it up.
	There's Peshero, but I'll just fucking throw it to WoGrandma.
	Okay, let's see.
	Hold on.
	Let me see if there's any more.
	Did I pause it?
	Let me check, guys.
	One sec, boys.
	Just want to make sure everything's good.
	Oh, call to action.
	Does anyone here do OF?
	Mia.
	Oh, yeah, me.
	Okay.
	Final call to action.
	Are you willing to stop being a strumpet?
	No, I said I wouldn't accept the job offer, but I appreciate it.
	Okay, I tried.
	Thank you.
	I tried.
	You're doing more things, though.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	Big things out here.
	I am.
	She does big things.
	She's popping.
	Small shit stopping.
	She's gardening the bush.
	Oh, God.
	Watering the bush.
	What the?
	All right.
	I think that's it for all the chats, guys.
	Let's see.
	Let me just, uh, okay.
	Is that everything?
	Are we forgetting anything?
	I feel like we're forgetting something.
	I think we're set.
	B-L-M.
	Wait, did I raid her?
	Oh, shit, wait, let me just do the raid.
	Okay, those of you who watch on Twitch, thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
	I can't pull it.
	We're not going to pull it up.
	But Will Grandma's raiding on Twitch.
	I'm going to send you over there doing a raid.
	Hope you guys be nice to her.
	She's 82.
	She plays World of Warcraft.
	Be nice.
	Thank you for watching on Twitch.
	I'm going to send that in 10 seconds.
	Oh, before you leave, twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow, drop us a prime sub.
	If you guys have one.
	And what else?
	I want to play a sound I've never played.
	I haven't played in a while.
	Oh, God.
	I used to do drugs.
	I still do what I used to do.
	All right, W. Wait, used a what?
	Do you want me to play it again?
	It's Mitch Hedberg.
	I used to do drugs.
	I still do what I used to too.
	Boom.
	Boom, boom, boom.
	Bada bing, bada boom.
	Thank you next.
	Bada bing.
	Bada bing.
	Alright, guys, like the video on your way out, please.
	07's in the chat.
	07's in the chat.
	I hope you guys have a really good night.

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