Whatever Podcast - Twins RAGE QUIT?! She Called Her BF A BlATCH?! Toxic Girl ADMITS To Abuse?!

July 16, 2024 - Whatever Podcast

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Twins RAGE QUIT?! She Called Her BF A BlATCH?! Toxic Girl ADMITS To Abuse?! | Dating Talk #178

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	My name is Jess.
	I am 36.
	I live in Calabasas, but I'm a marketing director for a plastic surgery office in Newport Beach that specializes in gynecomastia.
	And your clientele is primarily men, is that correct?
	Yeah.
	What's the you said, I think in your pre-show notes, you indicated 80%.
	Yeah.
	Men?
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Azyra Blake.
	I am 20 years old.
	I currently live in Hollywood, California.
	And my occupation that I'm working on right now is being a full-time runway model.
	Full-time runway model.
	Okay.
	Are you in school right now?
	Did you say?
	I am in school.
	What are you studying?
	I'm studying business administration and I want to major in accounting.
	Okay, I see.
	You're an aspiring runway model.
	Yes.
	Have you practiced your walk?
	I always practice my walk.
	People are very much irritated with me because all I do is practice my walk.
	All you do is practice the walk.
	All right, you got it down pretty good, or are we going to get a demo?
	Should we get a demo?
	I don't know.
	There's probably not enough space, unfortunately, but cool, cool.
	What about you?
	My name is Sonia Kiani, better known as Freber Untamed.
	I'm allegedly 40.
	I do identify as 27 to 32, depending on the day.
	I'm from Orange County, celebrity makeup artist, hairstylist, and I do own a salon and just venturing into women empowerment coaching and relaunching my podcast.
	So when you say women empowering empowerment, women empower empowerment.
	Women?
	Women and women.
	Woman, woman, plural, singular.
	It's all very confusing.
	And you said, so what do you do for the empowerment?
	How do you empower?
	So it goes from accountability to self-awareness, and I help them to be their best version of themselves.
	So whether it's relationship advice, whether it's career, whatever it is, it's that guidance through my journey.
	I help them be their best version of themselves.
	I see.
	Okay, and what is it like a counseling type thing where you sit down with them in person or how does it typically work?
	Well, it's more phone calls.
	So I kind of launched it recently.
	So I've been doing it more so sporadically, but officially.
	So I have an initial call to see if that's something that I can help them with.
	So they fill out a questionnaire and just kind of see assess if someone's serious.
	What is it that I can help them?
	If it's something that I can definitely help them, then I bring them on and we kind of plan out, you know, a 30, 60, 90 day like game plan of what we need to do and then kind of go from there.
	So, what do you and what do you typically charge them?
	Just real quick, there was one quick point of clarification I wanted.
	Did you say you helped them through because of your journey?
	So, what I've gone through, like life, I guess, I've been through a lot of different things.
	And I feel like social media, I've helped a lot of women through being open and vulnerable with everything that I go through.
	So, it's more so advice for women.
	So, it's a safe space for women that they can come.
	You know, I've, I don't know if you can say DV, domestic violence.
	Almost everything.
	And you teach them accountability?
	You said that?
	It depends what they're needing.
	So, it honestly depends on what they need, whether if it's a relationship.
	So, I have a couple of girls that are going through relationships that are kind of stuck, or some that are trying to figure out what they want to do with their next steps of life.
	So, honestly, it depends.
	So, I'm there for whatever they need.
	And if it's something that I truly think that I can help them with, then I take them on.
	If I can't, then I don't.
	I kind of give them the advice that I can, or maybe give them, refer them to other people that I may know in the business.
	But yeah, it's still pretty brand new.
	So, I'm still honing it in, but it's exciting because it's been something that I've been doing on social media basically for free.
	Because I say my passion is people as makeup artists.
	I love to make women feel beautiful and have their inner and outer beauty match.
	And so, when I'm able to do that, as I said, like people are my passion, and making them helping change the world is my mission, like being the best version of themselves.
	So, I don't know.
	It's kind of a fun adventure.
	I don't know the answers yet.
	It's Andrew, right?
	I don't know them yet, but we're figuring them out as we go.
	So, we're figuring them as we go.
	So, it's an adventure.
	It is an adventure.
	It's an adventure of growth together.
	I think that's a thing that As me, as a perfectionist, I usually have a tendency to perfect things before I start them.
	So, this one, I'm like, you know what?
	We're going to start it and we're going to perfect it as I grow.
	I'm going to grow as a coach, and my clients are going to help me grow.
	So, it's an exciting adventure to see where it goes.
	All right.
	Well, good luck with the exciting adventure.
	Thank you.
	How much do you typically charge for a session or whatever?
	Well, right now, I'm kind of doing more consults.
	Like, I'll do like 15, 30 minute, just like a phone call for free.
	And then it just depends on what they need.
	So, before I was charging $2.50 for like an hour session to sit down, so it just depends what the program is.
	But for typically, what I have it now is like a 90-day kind of coaching for $1,500.
	So, it includes weekly Zoom calls.
	They have access to me through text.
	So, I'm basically available to them at all times, but they have that one.
	So, we call if they need more than that, then they can reach out.
	So, yeah.
	And then I have here in my notes that you have OnlyFans for makeup.
	I had one.
	I had one.
	Not anymore, though.
	Okay.
	And you were just posting makeup stuff on the floor.
	So during the lockdown, I think when they were trying to steer away from the sex work, they reached out for makeup artists, hairstylists.
	So they were the one that actually reached out to me.
	They made a promo video for me.
	So they promoted the makeup, the hair fitness enthusiast.
	So what I was doing is posting, are you talking about OnlyFans Corporate or some like third-party corporate colours?
	It was the corporate.
	Okay.
	So they made a promo video for me for makeup, hair.
	I think it's still on Twitter if you go look for it.
	And then I would post sexy photo shoots too that I have.
	You have Twitter?
	What is it?
	I think it's underscore forever untamed.
	I'm very bad at that.
	I might have already.
	I just walked into it.
	Dun dun dun.
	All right, I'll see what kind of dirt I can find.
	Well, okay, I didn't find anything.
	But all right, moving on, what about you?
	My name is Summer.
	I'm an educational speaker as well as a model, and I love to be in film, short films.
	And I really love what she's doing.
	I feel like me and my twin sister are on a similar path where we empower people to be their better selves.
	And through the education and knowledge that I've learned throughout my life, as well as in my culture and history, that I like to empower people and educate them on how to become their best self.
	Sure.
	Can I have you?
	Laptop came out of nowhere.
	Can I have you tilt your mic down just a little bit?
	Yes.
	This is better.
	Perfect.
	Age?
	I'm 24.
	24.
	All right.
	Any history of OF or anything like that?
	No.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Well, me and my sister, we're called the Severa twins, but my name is Sarah.
	We live in Los Angeles, California.
	We are models in LA, but we are young entrepreneurs as well.
	We just launched our new clothing brand, Severa.
	And then we also are educational speakers as well.
	And we were 24.
	I'm 30 seconds older.
	You guys are twins, so 30 seconds older.
	Age would be the same.
	Okay, both 24.
	When you say educational speaker, what do you so?
	When we go on different platforms, we tend to love to talk about things that are factually educational for the community and also just the world.
	Like, there's just a lot of people spreading false education in the world and a lot of fake mentorship and motivation.
	So I just like to go off of a factual basis and just statistically prove a point with pure knowledge.
	And I think that the world is going the opposite direction.
	So I think it's necessary.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Janara.
	I'm 19.
	I'm from Fullerton, California.
	I attend Cal State Fullerton as a business major, concentrating in accounting, and I'm also a party promoter.
	Party promoter.
	Okay.
	And are you in a sorority?
	No.
	Do they have Greek orgs at Cal State Fullerton?
	Cal State Fullerton, yeah.
	Okay.
	And you're a party promoter.
	Is that, I'm assuming that's in Fullerton?
	Yeah, it's like just a little side hustle.
	Okay.
	And so does that involve you also going to the party?
	Is it partying?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Cool, cool.
	All right.
	How long have you been doing that for?
	I think like about half a year now.
	Half a year.
	Okay.
	And you're going into your junior year or sophomore year?
	Sophomore.
	Sophomore.
	God.
	What about you?
	I'm Sam.
	I'm 22 years old.
	I'm from Boise, Idaho, and I'm a licensed esthetician.
	All right.
	Idaho.
	Have you always lived there?
	I grew up mostly in Salt Lake City, lived in Alaska for a few years, and then I moved back to Boise when I was 17.
	All right.
	Okay.
	I think you might be our first.
	Have we had somebody from Idaho before?
	I think you have.
	I saw one girl episode, yeah.
	Okay, not the first, but okay, cool.
	What about you?
	My name's Naomi.
	I am also from Boise, Idaho.
	I'm 27, and I own a swan.
	All right, you guys work together?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and we're sisters.
	Oh, and related.
	Okay, and sisters.
	All right.
	And okay, and what about you?
	My name's Liz.
	I live in Ventura County, and I own a car wrapping business.
	Oh, age?
	Oh, 25.
	25.
	You own a car wrapping business.
	Do you do the actual wrapping yourself or do you have like the bumpers off, the door handles, the mirror caps, etc.
	Redo everything.
	It's not just wrapping.
	You actually take the bumpers off yourself?
	Yeah, I'm big.
	Like you, personally.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I refuse to take off any bumpers or anything on like McLaren's and stuff like that because I don't want that liability on my business.
	So I hire that out, but for like beamers, Murse 80s, daily vehicles, I'll do all that.
	All right, cool.
	Are you in school at all?
	No.
	That's cool.
	All right.
	Andrew, what about you?
	My name is Andrew Wilson.
	I'm the host of The Crucible.
	It is, to my knowledge, the fastest growing debate channel on YouTube.
	I'm a political analyst, a political satirist, and occasionally like to engage in debates.
	All right.
	Welcome, Andrew.
	Welcome, everybody.
	Going around the table once more.
	What is everybody's current relationship status?
	So are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule sex, call tarum, whatever it may be?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Starting with you, go ahead.
	So I'm currently married.
	Longest relationship I've ever been in was eight years.
	Is that your marriage?
	No.
	Okay.
	How long have you been married?
	Married for two years, but living with them for five now.
	All right, cool.
	Any kids?
	Congratulations.
	No kids, but we have about 20 dogs.
	20 dogs and a hairless cat.
	You have like an animal sanctuary or?
	My husband's a TV host for a dog show on CBS.
	He's a TV host for a dog show on CBS.
	What's it called?
	Have we heard of it?
	Lucky dog.
	Haven't heard of it, but very cool, very cool.
	What about you?
	Wait, is he like a dog whisperer?
	Like is he a dog trainer?
	Yeah, he does dog training.
	We do a service, or we, I just snuggle the dogs, but he does service dogs.
	He also has a masterclass for dog training.
	Does he like correct dogs that behave really poorly?
	Yes.
	Like he'll get them in line or whatever.
	Okay, cool.
	What about you?
	I am currently single.
	I have been for about three years now.
	My first relationship, I've only ever had one boyfriend, and we dated for about two to three years.
	If you ask him, he might say something different, but we were together for a very long time.
	Wait, he might.
	What do you mean he might say something different?
	Because we broke up with each other and then he moved on and I still liked him, but he would still like make me feel wanted almost.
	So it was hard for me to move on for a very long time.
	So I feel like we were still together even though we broke up.
	But on his part, I think he had a new girlfriend, probably five girlfriends.
	I don't know.
	There's this Mitch Hedberg joke.
	It goes something along the lines of, I don't have a girlfriend, but I know a girl who'd be mad at me if she heard me say that.
	I think I kind of put, I think I got it about right, but in any case, so you were more so in the relationship than he was?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And it was two to three years on again off again, kind of.
	How many times was it off and on?
	I would say about five major times.
	Five major times?
	What about the minors?
	Minors.
	Minor leagues.
	Maybe like ten, but it was only for like five minutes.
	And we were like, okay, I love you.
	Sorry.
	Okay.
	And so more often than not, who was initiating the off?
	It was always me because he would want to text other women in front of me or talk to other women in front of me.
	So I would break up with him and I would break up with him every single time.
	But then I would also be the one to pull us back together.
	So you would break up with him, but then also reach back out to get.
	Yeah.
	And so was he upfront with you?
	I mean, you had knowledge of it, so he was very upfront.
	If I were to ask him, like, are you cheating on me?
	He would just tell me, like, yeah.
	Like, it would take him a while to get the final answer, but when he finally would tell me, he would tell me exactly what happened and why.
	I don't want to name his name, but he was adopted.
	And so he would always give me the same excuse and tell me that, like, he's looking for his mom and a woman, and I would have to deal with that.
	Yeah, I was dealing with that for a very long time.
	Looking for his mom and multiple women.
	Yeah.
	Sounds like.
	And so, okay.
	So, but I mean, was he upfront with you that he didn't want monogamy?
	He didn't want commitment?
	No, he was very much like, you cannot be with anyone else, but I'm going to be with other people.
	Oh, well, he was upfront about that.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And were you with other people?
	When we would break up.
	You?
	Okay.
	But so if he was upfront with you that he was going to be seeing other girls, was it really cheating?
	It was cheating because he was in a relationship.
	Right, you were in a relationship where he could see other women and you couldn't see other men.
	It wasn't like I allowed him to.
	It was just that he was expressing to me what he was doing because I knew that something wasn't right.
	Well, okay.
	Did you guys at any point have an actual overt conversation about, hey, this is exclusive, we're not seeing other people?
	Yes, we had that conversation multiple times.
	But you said that he said that he was going to be seeing other girls and he wanted you to just be seeing him.
	It was because he had a lot of personal issues.
	So he was literally looking for a mother, a mother figure, and any woman that he could be with.
	So it was like he was holding on to me because he knew that's where his heart lied, but he was also looking for more of himself in other women.
	I see.
	Okay.
	But he was upfront with you that this was he was seeing other women, right?
	Yes, he was upfront with him.
	And you would break up with him.
	I dealt with it.
	Okay, yes, okay.
	I dealt with it because I loved him, and it was cheating because I loved him.
	But if you loved him, but if he told you, I'm down to see you, but I want this to be like essentially an open relationship.
	I mean, that's as farther along as we got, that's more of what it turned into.
	Like exactly what you said, it did not start off like that.
	It traveled to that more and more.
	So when it did get to that point, that's when I finally pulled back because he was expressing like, I'm going to be with other people.
	Right, but you said each time you broke up with him was because he was involved with another woman, but then despite knowing that he would be involved with other women, you would accept him.
	Yes, not even accept him back.
	You would go back to him.
	I felt like he was the only person who would love me.
	Nick?
	Oh, okay.
	I felt like he was the only person who would love me, and I'm very much attached to someone who I've become comfortable with.
	It's hard for me to readjust to people, so that's why I would deal with it because I didn't want to have to readjust to someone else.
	Right.
	But I mean, if he kind of said, and I don't, I'm not saying that I agree with the kind of arrangement that he had going on, but if he tells you, I'm going to be seeing other women, and then you break up with him, But then you go back to him without some sort of ultimatum of you can't do that anymore, just by virtue of you reaching back out to him would seem to indicate to, at least to him, that you are now.
	You were willing to be in a relationship with him despite his I don't even categorize it as cheating but despite him seeing other women.
	Yes, I was willing to be with him, so it wasn't cheating then it was right.
	But if you, if you okay, so you would have to there would have to be an establishment that he wouldn't for you to continue seeing him.
	He can't see other girls, but you'd go back to him despite his representations to you.
	Establishment, when you become in a relationship with someone, when you become in a relationship, you establish that you are only going to be with that person.
	So I'm trying to like break up with him because he wants to be with other people, but I also love him.
	So I go back to him and I'm like we can't do this anymore.
	He would agree with me, he would be honest to me about what happened, but then he would keep doing it.
	He would continue to do it.
	So it wasn't like.
	Well honestly yes, I do know what I was getting myself into, but I also feel like I was hoping for the best at the same time.
	I don't think he was cheating.
	He told you.
	He told you it's like, but what do you expect you?
	You break up with him, but then you go back to him, but he's already communicated to you that he's gonna be sleeping with other chicks.
	So by you going back to him, that's your accepting, that's essentially you accepting his terms.
	Yes, if he was okay, if he was reaching back out to you, he's like, babe, I'm sorry, let's be together, let's be monogamous.
	And then he did it.
	That's one thing.
	But you going back to him I imagine it wasn't under like there wasn't a ultimatum where well, you're reaching back out to him, but I'll only get back with you if you're not sleeping with other girls.
	That was sort of the conversation, but at the same time, I was more focused on being back with them than what he was doing, because the type of person I am, I really don't.
	Like, I know this sounds bad, but being with other people wasn't my main focus.
	Like, as long as he was able to be there for me when I needed him and able to understand the things that I couldn't communicate to anyone else, that was the main focus for me.
	So, being able to have a person that I can express those things with was the main focus.
	So, I was mentally draining myself, tuning out the cheating and making it seem like it wasn't a big issue when it really was.
	Okay, we can come back to some of that later.
	I noticed you have a tattoo here that says the real, real brat.
	A real brat.
	My name is Azira, but I am a big brat.
	I also am very real.
	I'm the realest, the realest in red.
	I'm not sexy red.
	I'm the sexiest red.
	Thank you very much.
	And so, all together, it's a real brat.
	A real, a real brat.
	A real brat.
	I am a real brat.
	What's a fake brat?
	Is there a fake brat?
	A brat is someone.
	Not actually a brat, but you pretend to be.
	A brat is being able to get your way and not putting up with anything else.
	A fake brat is someone who acts like they're getting their way, but they're not.
	I am getting my way.
	A real brat is, well, you didn't get your way with your ex-boyfriend.
	And I left it alone and I was hoping better for the future.
	After a long three, four years, yes, I finally left it alone.
	And my real brat-ness in me is not looking for anyone right now.
	And I feel like that's what makes me a real brat too because I'm focused on getting what I want and not letting anyone stop me.
	All right.
	And how long have you been single?
	For about two years.
	I would say it depends on when you consider that we broke up.
	When's the last time you saw that guy?
	Yesterday?
	About two, three weeks ago.
	Whoops.
	Hold on.
	I didn't mean to press that one.
	Wait, so hold on.
	You said you've been single for two years, but you saw this guy as recently as two weeks ago?
	Two, three weeks ago.
	Two, three.
	Two.
	When was there?
	Was there carnal knowledge involved in this visit?
	Was there carnal knowledge?
	What does that mean?
	Carnal knowledge, sexual intercourse.
	Oh, no.
	Key in the feet.
	No, we have not.
	We actually haven't done anything physical since about two years.
	That's kind of when I consider that we broke up.
	It was when I first went to college.
	Nothing physical?
	Nothing physical.
	But you have.
	What do you guys do?
	Just meet up and go to Baskin-Robbins and have ice cream?
	No, that's not what we do.
	His mother is like very much a great friend of mine, also like a second mom to me.
	And so every single time they have a family event or a graduation or his sister recently had a baby, I'm always invited.
	So I find myself with his family a lot, and that's why I've seen him recently.
	Okay.
	So before you just, it was a family get-together, or yeah, it was his little brother's graduation from high school.
	Wait, his little brother's graduation from high school?
	Yes.
	And your family is involved, your family's involved now?
	No, I'm close friends with his whole family.
	So they invite me to everything.
	That's why I've seen him so recently.
	I see.
	Okay.
	You didn't hook up to the three weeks ago?
	No, we very much didn't.
	I wish we did because I really love him so much, but he's so upset the way our relationship went.
	And he blames me for everything.
	So that's why I had to pull myself back because I want to be with someone who sees me as a great person, a great woman.
	And I feel like he doesn't see me as that because I put up with so many terrible things that he did.
	He has like a different reputation for me.
	Now it's just, oh, this girl, she's going to put up with whatever.
	Like, I don't have to treat her with respect.
	Like, that's how he sees me now.
	So I really can't ever be with him again.
	Wait, you just said you wanted to hit.
	I want to be with him, but I can't.
	It's a principle.
	It's discipline.
	Wait, but it sounded like you wanted to hit, but he didn't.
	It's not like he didn't.
	We both did, but we didn't.
	Because he sees me as someone who he can play with.
	So I try not to put myself in that situation, even though I want to.
	Okay.
	And I want to because I've been with him for a very long time and I wouldn't want to restart with someone new.
	In these instances where he's swearing.
	Yeah, well, that's really weird to me, though.
	If you don't mind me just kind of asking, why would you be going to events with this guy's family and be having close personal relationships with this guy's family if that wasn't a way in which you can kind of piggyback off of them to get close to him?
	Usually you would think that if you were in a disastrous relationship where the man and the woman had decided that they just weren't right for each other, that generally they tend to space each other away from each other's families, you know, personal connections, things like this, so that they don't have to see each other anymore.
	This is really, it's really odd, right?
	A little strange that you're going to his little brother's graduation.
	That's a little weird.
	It is a little weird.
	Every time before one of his family members' events, I always give myself this pet talk, which is not great.
	I'm like, you're stupid.
	You're so dumb.
	Why are you here?
	Stay away from his family.
	He doesn't want to be with you.
	I always tell myself that, but I always end up going because I have like this everlasting faith that he'll finally like treat me right and want to be with me and he'll see me.
	So you are, so you are using the family as a piggyback to get close to this guy.
	Like that's by your own admission, you're piggyback.
	You're like, you're attaching yourself to his family members so that you can be close in proximity in hopes that he one day has a turnaround.
	And he's like, finally, you know, Eureka, the light bulb went off.
	I was, you know, I was brushing my teeth this morning and ding, there it is.
	You're the girl of my dreams.
	I always knew it.
	Like, is that, is that the Eureka you think is coming?
	Sometimes that is the goal, but other times it's not solely me.
	I feel like his mother wants me to be with him as well.
	So I feel like she also does this to help me and him regain a stronger bond.
	But it's funny because when she does, does he tell his mama to mind her own business?
	Does he say, mom, mind your own fucking business, doesn't he?
	He does.
	Yep, yep, he does.
	He does.
	He says, mom, I don't give a shit what you say.
	Never cared what you said, mom.
	I still love you, mom.
	I adore you.
	You're my mom.
	But mind your own business.
	That's what he says, isn't it?
	Yes, it is.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I think there's a situation, Andrew, when girl, you got to call me after this and we're going to work through this together.
	I'll hook you up.
	Yeah, she'll only charge you X amount of dollars.
	I'm just only.
	I'll just do the call.
	At this point, I'll do it for free.
	How many to get out of it?
	I mean, what other advice is there to give but move on?
	I know.
	There is no other prescriptive thing we can tell you.
	This guy's, you said, like, he's going to continue seeing other women.
	If he was really about you, he would only be about you.
	So, like, you're basically, you were, are, will be the side chick.
	Point blank, period.
	I'm not saying that to be mean.
	I'm just trying to give you, like, a wake-up call here.
	You gotta, like, you're still pining over this, dude.
	Um, but I'm just confused because you say you've been single for two years, but you're seeing this.
	Okay.
	I'm single, but I have.
	Metro Matonated $69.
	Yeah, we'll move on in the second.
	Move the food on bro.
	Thank you, Metro Matt.
	Appreciate it.
	When, in the instances where he would allegedly cheat on you, was there any retribution from your end?
	As in slashing tires, reputation destruction, anything like that.
	The most I would do is I'm a very much of a not talk to you person, so I would just not talk to him.
	If I did talk to him, I would constantly scream at him.
	Like, there would be, he would not be able to communicate.
	I would just be standing there screaming at him for hours, and then I would cry.
	Sounds healthy.
	You would scream at him for hours?
	Yes.
	And he wouldn't get one word in?
	No.
	This was a multi-hour monologue.
	Yes.
	He wouldn't even respond.
	He'd just sit there playing Call of Duty.
	Yes.
	And sometimes.
	Wait, would he be on a video game while you're yelling?
	He would either be on the game or on his phone or we would be outside in the middle of going somewhere.
	Sometimes we would be out places and he would talk to someone and I would grab him, make him leave, and I would yell at him the whole way home.
	You would yell at him in public.
	Yes.
	Yikes.
	The whole way home.
	So I gotta say to your whoever this mystery man is, sir, run away as fast as you can.
	Please never look back again.
	Tell mommy and little brother to stop having relationships with your possibly ex-girlfriends who may not have been the girlfriend, but that would be my recommendation.
	You know, and I know somewhere he's watching this or will be watching this and he's thinking, man, I've tried everything.
	I've done everything I could possibly do.
	She calls my mom on Saturdays, bro.
	She calls her on Saturday.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I recently just blocked his mother, his brother, his sister, and him because I can't do this anymore.
	So, yeah.
	He can't do that shit either.
	Yikes.
	Wait.
	Okay, let's.
	Can we get?
	I want a 30-second demo.
	So here's what I'm going to do.
	I'm going to play Solitaire.
	Hold on.
	I don't think you're ready.
	Hold on.
	All right, look.
	I'm going to play Solitaire.
	All right.
	You just yell at me like how you yelled at him.
	Go ahead.
	What are you doing?
	Why are you talking to them?
	I can't take you nowhere.
	That's my best friend's party.
	Come on.
	I literally am going to have to hear about this tomorrow.
	Please!
	No, don't say that.
	Don't say anything.
	Please be quiet.
	No, because you stay cheating.
	You stay acting like a hoe.
	I can't take you nowhere.
	You need to go home.
	Don't leave me.
	Where are you going?
	Come back.
	What is wrong with you?
	I don't know.
	I can't.
	No, be quiet.
	Stop.
	Every single time we go somewhere, we cannot go anywhere.
	We cannot go anywhere.
	I can't take you anywhere.
	Please.
	Like, can you please just act like you want to be with me or we do not have to go places.
	We can deal with this inside, not outside.
	Sorry, I was busy playing solitaire.
	Whoa, Can we put the cuckoo back in the clock here, lady, for just a minute?
	Listen, that was rough.
	That sounded like you rehearsed this.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It happens so, it happens so many times where, like, at that point, I would just like go off.
	I would non-stop.
	Like, I would lose my voice just screaming at him because there was nothing I could say for him to actually stop what he was doing.
	So I would just say everything.
	I have like a random one-off scenario question.
	If like a guy came into your life and you and he was pursuing you and he was a good man and then this guy came back and he was like, no, I want you.
	Which one would you take?
	Private chat.
	At this point in my life, I'm going to say the new person only because every other moment of my life, I've taken him back and it wasn't worth it.
	Every single time it wasn't worth it because he still couldn't see me as someone who was worth being with.
	And I want someone new who can see me as like a fresh, beautiful soul.
	And they don't have all this pent up anger against me or resentment because I let them do things that I shouldn't have and I should have walked away a long time ago.
	So you said that you blocked this guy's family.
	Yes.
	You're not going to go over there anymore.
	No.
	Okay.
	If you want to call him, just call me.
	I got you.
	I think we've all been there, though.
	I'll be honest.
	Like the on and off, it takes a minute.
	And you say the real brat.
	I think that's when you take your power back, when you start realizing your self-worth and self-respect, and you're just like, I don't want to deal with this shit anymore.
	So you know you deserve better.
	But as someone who's been through it, sometimes it takes a couple of couple of times for you to realize it.
	And then your friends have all seen it.
	And you start slowly seeing what they saw.
	And then you realize that it's time to cut it off.
	But I'm proud of you.
	I'm going to cut through all this bullshit.
	Look, I'm just going to come out and say it.
	You're not going to like it.
	She's the abusive one.
	Yeah, she is.
	She's being abused.
	She for sure has a lot of.
	You need a lot of healing, my child.
	Yeah, but you're telling her you don't have to put up with it anymore.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	It's her journey.
	Oh, Andrew.
	It's her journey.
	No, it's me.
	It's not that.
	It's the fact that I'm saying that she definitely needs.
	I'm not saying she doesn't need help.
	The fact that she needs to go through, she has a lot of unhealed trauma for herself.
	But at the same time, she's not putting up with it.
	So now you have to focus on yourself.
	Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to lie.
	If somebody yelled at me like that, girl, I would have cut, you know, I would have moved, changed my phone number, blocked you, like left.
	But it is that resentment.
	It is that pent up what you're not getting to be frustrated.
	You're both toxic and it just keeps getting more toxic and toxic because you're letting it happen.
	So he doesn't respect you.
	You don't respect yourself.
	He's not listening to you.
	He's tuning you out.
	And you get more frustrated because you don't feel hurt.
	So it's like literally a toxic thing that just keeps fucking building up, building up until it explodes.
	Have you guys ever had a physical altercation?
	Yes, we have, but it wasn't as bad as I would say like abuse goes.
	I'm going to be honest.
	I think that's what I'm saying.
	This wasn't physically attacking him, right?
	This is where we're going.
	If I could make a prediction.
	I believe that I hit him and then he hit me back.
	So I literally started crying.
	I was like, oh my God, hit me to that.
	But I was so mad I did hit him.
	Yeah, but you can't raise your hand if you don't want to expect to get hit.
	Yeah, I should have said that.
	Did this happen more than once?
	This happened not many times.
	I would say three times in the same week to where it was like we were actually fighting.
	But he was fighting me to a point where he wanted me to stop and I was fighting him to a point where I was angry.
	So it was like he wasn't.
	So he was defending himself.
	Yeah, he wasn't like hurting me or anything.
	He was genuinely trying to get him.
	He was like holding your arms or something.
	And in the three times, of the three times you mentioned, you were the initiator in all of them?
	Yes.
	Okay, and were you slapping him?
	What were you doing?
	I slapped him a few times.
	I would punch him in the back and like in the arm.
	This is so bad.
	But I was like so angry.
	Would sit on his phone in my room and text other females, people that I used to be friends with, people that I would see every day.
	And I would just like scream at him, like, please, like, don't do that, get off your phone.
	It was a game for him.
	He was having so much fun.
	So I would like hit him.
	Yeah, it was bad.
	That was crazy.
	I mean, honestly, I don't think he's at fault either because, like Brian said, he was honest with you.
	Like, he didn't have any consequences.
	Because I've been through that where I had an ex, he said he wanted options, and I was like, that's not no.
	I'm sorry, bye.
	But he didn't have any consequences, so he really didn't care.
	And he told you what he wanted, which wasn't really you.
	And it hurts to hear it, but you just kind of like want to force it on him.
	And then you're just getting frustrated because you're not getting what you want.
	But it's almost like selective hearing.
	You're literally not listening to what he's saying.
	And you're just like, but give me what I want.
	And he's like, well, this is what I'm giving you.
	And you just don't want to accept what he wasn't giving you.
	Yeah.
	All right, kumbaya.
	Can I get a hole?
	This is also, I mean, this is also.
	Wait, you said he's adopted?
	Yes.
	I feel so bad that I put that out there, but it's part of our love story or was love story.
	Did you adjust the mic, Nick?
	I did.
	Okay.
	But her, she needs to speak closer.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	It's also an L for this guy to actually tolerate this level of disrespect.
	He's clearly the victim in this whole situation.
	Okay, can I give a counter, though, to this, Brian?
	I'm going to counter signal you here.
	What if it's, you know, it's 11 o'clock at night and he wants some Arby's and it's really far away and it's open 24 hours, you know, seven days.
	You know, she can go get the Arby's for him, you know?
	And she'll just do it, right?
	So in his defense, who wants to get up at 11 o'clock at night?
	I'm going to Cabo Sam Lucas in February next year.
	Would any of you on the panel vote to meet Bucky Larson for six nights in a row if I flew you out to Cabo?
	Okay, I guess show of hands.
	Anybody here willing to take him up on his this Bucky Larson wants to fly you guys out to Cabo?
	Anybody?
	Shit, bro.
	Damn.
	Sorry, Bucky.
	Sorry, Andrew.
	Go ahead.
	Sounds like sex trafficking.
	Well, I'm just saying, you know, I understand what you're saying.
	Kind of an L for him because he's, you know, continuing to kind of lead her on and this kind of thing.
	But, you know, I really feel like that that's deviating away from female accountability in this instance.
	Once you get to the, well, I hang out with his parents and his siblings in order to get closer to him.
	I feel like he's just kind of stuck at that.
	But like, what the hell is he going to do?
	What's he going to like?
	Like, he can't, you can't avoid it.
	Yeah, he can't avoid it.
	You just keep inserting yourself in his life.
	Like, I mean, we do that.
	Like, let's be real.
	We've done that a lot.
	We keep in touch with the family because we want to get back.
	Say it.
	I was trapping him for a certain amount of time.
	That's what I wanted as well.
	And then it just got dreadful.
	And then I started asking myself, why am I here?
	Why am I doing this?
	But at first, it was like, oh, yeah, like his mom invited me.
	Oh, I'm coming.
	But then I started to gather myself.
	His adoptive mother?
	Yes.
	Is his mother aware of the nature of your guys' physically violent relationships?
	I would tell her all the time, and she would tell me that he's not ready to be in a relationship and that he needs to grow a lot more within himself, especially with his personal issues, and that it's like not right for me to be with him.
	But I would never listen to her.
	This whole thing's a massive cluster fuck.
	The adoptive mother is not advising her adopted son to try to exit a physically abusive relationship.
	Yeah, that's why I'm just not willing to throw this poor guy under the bus just yet.
	I'm just not quite there.
	He seems like he's had a hard time.
	I mean, you're beating him up, ingratiating yourself into his family.
	Well, leave him alone.
	You know, I mean, you kind of sound like a pain in the ass, honestly.
	Yes, I do.
	And that's why me and him can't be together because we have so much trauma in our history, but I don't see it like that, which is part of my problem.
	I see it all as like a long love story.
	But in conclusion, to this whole situation, I feel that when you are not getting what you need or you need to receive in a relationship, you need to remove yourself or else it'll bring something else out of you that is not beautiful and that you don't need to experience.
	And that's exactly what happened here.
	Yeah, no, not really, because he tried to remove himself.
	And then you inserted yourself after he tried to remove himself, right?
	So that's not really what happened here.
	Wait, he doesn't get to remove himself?
	Is that what you said?
	He does not get to remove himself until we both feel that that is what needs to happen.
	But now that I'm thinking about it now, it's okay.
	Have you ever seen the movie Psycho?
	You know, the shower scene with that music, you know, that music is playing right there.
	Weep, weep, weep, weep.
	That's all I hear.
	It's all I hear right now.
	Is that this poor guy is going to have a shower scene soon?
	He's just, you know, he's going to get off a hard day's work.
	And then that's it.
	The curtain's going to open and that's going to be it for him.
	In all fairness, he doesn't get to quit, right?
	He doesn't get to quit me.
	He's not allowed to.
	By the way, TTS has been bumped up to back to 200.
	The whole situation is an absolute mess.
	Are you trolling or is this legit?
	No, I'm so serious.
	If he were to watch this right now, he would be so happy because you're validating his point.
	Everything that he says, you are validating.
	He would be so happy right now.
	He'd be like, yeah, I told you she's crazy.
	Is he wrong?
	Is he wrong?
	I am crazy when you drive me to craziness.
	Yeah, I understand.
	So it's all his fault.
	This poor, logical, reasonable human being.
	Is he watching this?
	You hang out with his family, this poor deranged lunatic whose family you're hanging out with.
	I know it's poor, you know, poor you, really.
	Poor you.
	I mean, I appreciate your, I mean, you're honest.
	Yeah.
	That's commendable.
	And she's not into the show.
	No, I love that.
	She's honest.
	At least we can give her that, right?
	Yeah, actually, psychotic.
	I'm not psychotic anymore.
	I have completely removed myself and I'm continuing to remove myself every single day.
	I'm continuing to understand what not being loved correctly does to me.
	I don't put him at fault.
	I put myself at fault because I should have taken removing myself from the situation a very long time ago.
	And me staying is what brought this monster out of me.
	And it's not because of him.
	It's because of me.
	And I take full accountability for that.
	And that's why moving forward, I want to make sure that I know what triggers me and that I don't put myself in those positions.
	And being not wanted triggers me.
	So I'm not going to be in any position where I am not wanted.
	Have you ever damaged any of his property?
	I just love the honesty, though.
	Like, like what?
	He got me.
	Okay, one time there was a Christmas that had one of the Christmases a few years ago, and I had got him like all these gifts.
	He used to like smoke in his mom's house, so I would buy him like candles so that you couldn't smell it.
	His mom was so mad.
	But I had pressed him.
	I was like, why didn't you get me a gift?
	Like, I don't understand.
	Like, I don't care if you don't have any money.
	Like, you could, you could hustle and get me something.
	Like, I was so upset.
	And then one day in January, he had like this long pole and he like gave it to me.
	And inside of it was this long, big picture of the Vincent Van Owen sunflower painting.
	It's like a pot with like all the sunflowers in it.
	Like Vincent Van Gogh?
	Yes, Vincent Van Gogh.
	So you're going to understand why I don't remember the name.
	So you broke the vase or whatever?
	No, what happened was it's a painting.
	It's a long picture frame painting of the picture that he gave me.
	And then a few days later, he took me.
	We were walking down like a bunch of streets.
	He's like, we're almost there.
	We're almost there.
	I'm like, what are we doing?
	I guess he had bought a picture frame for it on Offer Up.
	And he put it together.
	We put it together.
	It was like almost as big as this table.
	A really big, like Vincent Van Gogh picture.
	And you destroyed it.
	What happened was one day he didn't want to see me.
	And this was about like six months later.
	I was like very in a traumatic phase of my life and I really needed him to be there for me.
	But he was out with other girls and like with his friends who would take him with other girls and I was very much time to wreck that.
	Teach him a lesson.
	I was like, he was like watching me and everything that he gave me was watching me.
	So I was like, okay, whatever.
	I had some lighter fluid in the back.
	I grabbed the lighter fluid.
	I grabbed some matches.
	I walked down the street like where all the crackheads were.
	I started smashing the painting.
	What?
	I recorded it.
	This is fun.
	I retract my free offer.
	I'm going to need to charge you extra with some liability insurance.
	I smashed it into pieces in the crackhead alley and I literally lit it up with lighter fluid.
	They were hyping me up.
	I lit it up with lighter fluid.
	I sat there.
	I started recording and I just let it burn.
	I just sat there, just like watched it burn.
	He had given me this big stuffed animal monkey and like it just reminded me of him because when we first met, he was like kind of fat.
	So like I called him fat, fat daddy.
	And he had gave me like this fat monkey.
	And so I was like, okay, like this is him.
	I did not want the monkey.
	So I tried to burn it.
	I ran out of lighter fluid.
	And there was a dog walking around.
	I was like, here, doggy, you want a toy?
	And then the dog took it.
	He ran off with it.
	I just like said, does he have a car?
	Oh, wait, before I tell you if he had a car, he had some nice clippers and some nice cologne.
	I gave that to the homeless man who watched me burn his stuff.
	Charity.
	Oh, so you gave your stuff away?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And so, does he have a car?
	He has a car now.
	Have you ever damaged his car?
	No.
	When we were together, he didn't have a car.
	Okay, if he had a car, would you have damaged it?
	I probably would have stolen it before I would have damaged it.
	Only because in that phase of my life, like everything that was his was ours.
	And if he wasn't mine, it's still mine.
	So, yeah.
	Everything that was his was ours?
	Ours.
	So if he had a car, it was our car.
	And if he didn't want me, it was my car.
	I would have, like, when he left stuff with me, it was mine.
	That's why I gave his stuff away.
	That's why I lit his stuff on fire.
	Yeah, I would have, if he had a car and we were together, I would have taken this car.
	You know what's going on?
	He would not have been able to go see other girls in that car.
	I would have had the car.
	You know what's crazy to me about this conversation is if there was a man sitting where you're sitting telling us the exact same shit, but like flip the genders, the gravitas of the situation would be like way different.
	Like girls are kind of like chuckling, she's chuckling, she's laughing about it.
	Not only if a guy was like revealing all these things, but he was laughing as he did.
	This guy would be like public enemy number one.
	Yeah.
	It's just kind of interesting to me how that works.
	Well, he'd be on his ninth restraining order, you know?
	I mean, his picture would be plastered all over.
	Don't date this guy because he's a lunatic.com.
	Right?
	I mean, he would have everything on planet Earth going against him.
	But you, it's just like, well, well, you know, I'm in a nice little picnic dress.
	And, you know, I burned this guy's shit and handed all his stuff off to homeless people.
	I'm nice.
	I'm a real sweetheart.
	I very much am a sweetheart.
	As long as I'm not with him, everything's good because being with him triggered so much of myself that I needed to.
	It's his fault.
	It's not his fault.
	It's my fault.
	But it's also a good thing that it happened.
	Not for him, of course, but at least for me, because I got to realize these sides of myself that I wouldn't ever want to do again.
	Like, I still look back and I know I just said a lot of crazy things, but I missed that monkey, that fat.
	That's what I'm going to start saying to my wife.
	I'm going to go in and be like, you burnt the roast, and I'm going to smack the shit out of her.
	They're going to be like, it's your fault.
	You bring out the worst in me.
	I can't help it.
	It's all you.
	If you didn't bring, my fingers wouldn't be bruised right now from decking you so many times.
	But it's you.
	You did it.
	That's, I mean, does that sound reasonable to you?
	Or does that sound like I'd go to prison?
	I was not 18 yet enough to do real time.
	So I was kind of in the green zone.
	So that's what you do so we can get away with it.
	Wait, were you, did you go to like, did you catch a case for any of this shit?
	No.
	I never got caught for none of this stuff.
	Like.
	Yeah.
	How old are you?
	20.
	Well, I mean, you say that it's only with this guy, but have any of these behaviors manifested with other men?
	No.
	What's crazy is that I think now I'm realizing my karma.
	Every single guy that I have like talked to or tried to be with after him have all been psychopaths.
	And all of my friends know, if you're out there listening, I literally have dealt with psychopaths consistently after this.
	And it's torn me even more to the point where now I don't know how to be in a relationship because at first I was like this crazy like wanting to be loved girl, but now like I'm dealing with people who are doing the same thing to me.
	I actually, it's making sense to me now that I have been living out my karma.
	Every person that I've talked to after him has been psycho.
	They have done hurtful things and said hurtful things to me.
	Sure.
	Anyways, I do have to move it on.
	Perhaps we'll come back to that in a little bit.
	Preemptively, we were actually going to react to something actually somewhat related.
	Nick, pull up the daily mail thing.
	You want to pull up the video?
	Yeah, the video.
	Actually, let's get through, we'll get through relationship status, then we can do it afterwards.
	What about you?
	Relationship status?
	Single and celibate.
	How long have you been single?
	I would say eight months.
	How long have you been celibate?
	Since we broke up eight months ago.
	Longest relationship?
	About three and a half years.
	Was that the one that ended?
	That one was three years.
	The one before that was three and a half.
	So they're all around three and a half years.
	Never married?
	No.
	Kids?
	No.
	Okay.
	And so longest relationship, 3.5 years.
	And when you say you're celibate, are you now waiting until marriage or something?
	No.
	When I'm single, I don't really, I don't hook up.
	It's just not me.
	I kind of try to put myself out there to date, and I downloaded the dating apps, went out a couple times just to put myself out there.
	Okay.
	But all right.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	How long have you been single?
	I would say for about like two years, three years?
	Two to three years?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Longest relationship?
	I would say on and off for about five years.
	From what age to what age?
	From 18 to 22.
	Okay, and you're 24.
	Okay, so two to three.
	All right.
	How many times was it off and on?
	I would say often.
	I would say like it was kind of a physical situation, but not necessarily on my end.
	I was just young.
	I didn't really know the red flags in a guy.
	And I guess when you're in something like that, it takes a while to realize like this is not healthy.
	And then like there were so many other factors in it that made it harder for me to like understand what situation I was in.
	And then when I finally, like she kind of really helped me get out of that situation, I never looked back to it.
	So you were in an on-again, off-again, five-year relationship.
	I mean, if you had to estimate, how many times was it off and on?
	I would say about three times, three to four times.
	Three to four times.
	It wasn't like off and then automatically on again.
	It would be periods.
	A year, it would be like months and then back together.
	Would you date other people in that off period?
	Okay.
	When it was off, who initiated the off?
	Me.
	So it was always me.
	And then when it was on, who initiated the let's get back together?
	He would always try his best to come show up in my life any way possible.
	All right.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'll say I've never really had like a serious relationship.
	Single relationship.
	Single.
	Yeah.
	So what's the longest period of time you've dated somebody?
	Maybe like three months or less.
	Three months.
	But you never had a boyfriend?
	I mean, Tim, in my head, no.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So when's the last time you've, I mean, you've been dating at all?
	No.
	Well, I've like talked to people, like some people on the internet, like if I find, if they say things that are like interesting to me, I'll respond.
	But I wouldn't, I'm not necessarily going out and dating people right now.
	I'm too focused on what we're doing.
	Which is the educational?
	Yeah, we have educational speaking entrepreneurship in our brand.
	We just launched a clothing brand, so it took a long time for me to do that.
	And you educate people on what?
	Philosophy.
	Like anything, anything that, not just philosophy, but just, and like I said, how I was talking to you about red flags, I was not aware of the red flags in men.
	So we also educate red flags in people that are in relationships.
	And how the aftermath of trauma in a relationship, how can you grow after being traumatized?
	How can you grow?
	What kind of philosophy?
	Like what's it called?
	Stoicism.
	Yeah.
	Stoicism or solipsism?
	No, stoicism.
	Sorry if I'm saying it right.
	It's wrong.
	Stoicism, stoicism, and like different philosophies.
	Are you sure you're not teaching them solipsism?
	No, I would say that.
	Wait, what?
	I was just curious.
	I'm just curious.
	No.
	No, no, no.
	Just about the mind and how to elevate one's mindset and vibration from low frequency to high frequency.
	What does that mean?
	Well, that sounds like esotericism.
	No, it means low vibrational is like talking about things like, oh, like she was saying earlier, like she had to have those pep talks with herself saying, I'm stupid, I'm an idiot.
	And to go see him, those are like low vibrational thoughts.
	And you're supposed to listen to the high vibration, like, I'm better than this.
	I can do great things.
	I'm accomplishing.
	I'm here for a reason.
	I want to be alive.
	I want to fulfill my destiny.
	Yeah, I don't understand how that's linked in together with stoicism at all.
	That has everything to do with stoicism because stoicism is.
	Can you explain it?
	I am explaining it right now.
	It has to do with stoicism because people in stoicism believe that life should be peaceful and that everything has a reason in a positive manner.
	So everything correlates with stoicism to high vibration.
	Like, for example, like if you see a stoicism, tell me which of the great stoic philosophers talked about vibrational frequencies.
	Well, it's like, for example, for someone.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	I'd like to answer my question.
	Can you tell me which great Stoic philosophers talked about vibrational frequencies?
	Maximus.
	What did he say about vibrational frequencies?
	He talked about the state of mind.
	By the way, Maximus, what?
	I cannot remember his last name at the moment, but.
	Maximus Dalius Aurelius?
	No, that's not his name.
	Is he the father to a murdered child?
	No, I'm sorry.
	He's too wrong.
	Talking about revenge in this life or the next.
	I'm making someone's name up.
	That's not accurate.
	Wait, are we asking who the author of?
	He's just like.
	Wait, have you guys?
	No, no, no.
	I was cracking a joke.
	Yeah, no.
	I was quoting Gladiator just because I thought it was funny.
	Stoicism.
	Maximus, but Maximus, the vibrational frequency guy.
	He talked about the mindset of the brain, and they did tests with human beings when it comes to talking and depression, people with depression, and people who are successful in their careers who have depression and they don't have depression.
	And they tested the people in the room and the people who spoke so highly about others and they had this positive posture in mind that everything that they would say out their mouth was something positive.
	Versus the people who were depressed, they look at life and say, oh, life sucks.
	I don't want to be here.
	Before we jump to modern science experiments, can you tell me which Stoic philosophers are referencing?
	Yeah, what was his name again?
	I just told you.
	If you couldn't remember, you should have wrote it down.
	I can't remember what is it.
	I'm sorry, you sort of wrote it down.
	Can you tell me one more time?
	No.
	You have to pay me for that.
	Why not?
	Why won't you just tell me who the philosopher is?
	You would have to pay me or go to school for that.
	I'm so sorry.
	Well, I wasn't sitting here, so why don't you tell me?
	I don't really want to continue this conversation.
	Well, so I don't know.
	I know, but we really do want to continue the conversation.
	Can you tell us who the philosopher was?
	His name is Maximus.
	I cannot say that name.
	I just said that when you asked me that the first time, so that's why I didn't even want to repeat the conversation.
	You're teaching people stoicism about vibrations.
	You can't name one philosopher other than Maximus who teaches about vibrational frequencies, no, it's not even about his, it's not about that one philosopher himself.
	It's about the idea of stoicism and the practice of it.
	I don't really care about like the point you're trying to prove.
	The point I'm trying to say is a high vibrational mindset is the key to success.
	In my life strategy and what I've been doing, that's been working great for me.
	So whatever you're saying, I don't need to have a list of people to say, oh, this is like who's the way of life.
	You don't need the architects of Stoicism.
	But if you go and research it, I'm not wrong.
	That's why I'm saying that.
	I'm not so many of them talking about vibrational freedom.
	I'm just trying to say that I'm not wrong what I'm saying.
	So if you want to prove me wrong, pull up the facts against me because everything, if you've researched it.
	I'm trying to.
	So here's the thing.
	I'm willing.
	So here.
	So hang on.
	I'm absolutely willing.
	100% to claim that I am incorrect.
	I love hearing other ideologies and philosophies, but I'm going to need a little bit more than Maximus the Philosopher.
	I just talked about vibrational frequencies for me to even know what the hell you're talking about.
	Okay.
	Okay, for example, Alexander the Great or all the warriors like Salah D. Nayubi.
	He talks about high vibration and how he was able to conquer Jerusalem during a peaceful during the 88 years of peace versus right now where it's Israel and Palestine.
	There's this whole conflict going on.
	What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
	Hold on, let me take over.
	Let me take over here for a second.
	Are you guys, so you guys are talking about the Stoicism, correct?
	Yes.
	Okay, and you were referencing an individual.
	I was gone.
	Who is the individual who you referenced?
	I would like to take back my answer because I don't know his full name at the moment.
	I mean, I do know his name, but I'm sorry.
	Was he an emperor?
	No, he was a philosopher.
	But I just cannot remember his name.
	Yeah, I cannot remember his full name.
	Do you know who the most preeminent, prominent Stoic philosopher was?
	No, not on the top of my mind.
	But if I go.
	Do you write the book Meditations?
	Yeah.
	Do you know who wrote the book?
	No, not on the top of my mind.
	They have very long names, and I can't remember these things unless I go back and memorize.
	Does Marcus Aurelius?
	Yes, Marcus Aurelius.
	See, it's like it's more so the message than the famous Stoic philosopher.
	Yes, yes, that's correct.
	Yeah, he was really keen on what time he got up in the morning, what you ate for breakfast.
	Not so keen on, I don't remember much about vibrational frequencies coming together.
	It could be worded in another way, but it's overall the same message of like having a high vibration.
	It's the same.
	What does that mean?
	Well, I mean, I feel like I have, I get that.
	I wouldn't put it as a philosophy, to be honest, but I get it.
	When you're low frequency, it's like when you're depressed, when you're just like all the negative or limiting beliefs or whatever it is.
	So when you raise your vibration, let's say if you do something, workout, it's like the endorphins kick in.
	It's like that, you know.
	But I mean, I don't, I don't, I wouldn't call it a philosophy.
	Mine's more like, I don't know, self-awareness kind of thing.
	But maybe that ties into philosophy.
	I'm not going to really get onto the philosophy part because I don't know much about it.
	But I get the ebbs and flows.
	When you're low, you got to kind of do something to get yourself out of it.
	If I'm not feeling good, I will do something, you know, like Tony Robbins talks about it.
	He's like, oh, you know, when he jumps up and down, change your physiology.
	If you're not feeling good, change your physiology.
	Do something that feeds your soul and then raises your vibration.
	So then it opens up your mindset.
	Because when you're on those low frequencies, you're just, it's almost like doomsday.
	It's like you attract what you put out.
	So when you're in a negative state, mind, if you're in that low vibration, you're attracting everything that's negative.
	So if you're feeling good, you're going to radiate that positivity and you're going to get that back in the universe.
	So I believe that, but I don't know.
	It's not only that, but philosophy has to do everything to do with high vibration because of mindset and also point of view of life.
	How do you want to live this life and also how do you perceive life?
	This all has to do with philosophy.
	Philosophy is used for people to practice in a way of life.
	That's why how people have religions.
	That's why philosophy is incorporated in religion.
	I mean, I don't know much about philosophy, but I mean, we have, I know we have, I'm Iranian, so there's a lot of amazing philosophers that are out there.
	But I'm saying like I don't know much about it, so I'm not going to speak on that, but I speak on the vibration part of it because I incorporate that in my life where I'm like, okay, if I'm feeling this, then change your vibration, change your physiology, and it elevates you.
	So again, I don't know much about the philosophy aspect of it, but I'm sure it ties into it.
	How long have you said you've been single your whole life, you said?
	Pretty much.
	No boyfriend.
	Yes.
	So are there any guys in the picture currently?
	No.
	No guys in the picture?
	No.
	No sneaky link?
	No.
	No guy you're texting?
	No.
	Okay.
	And then what about you?
	No guys in the picture?
	No.
	Currently?
	No, no, no.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And you said you teach women.
	It's just people who want to learn.
	Who want to learn what?
	Like people who want to are interested in the mindset that we're talking about.
	Like elevating their mindset from negative to positive.
	Sometimes you can sit alone by yourself and have automatic negative mindsets, bad thoughts all the time.
	You wonder why, where are these thoughts coming from?
	It's coming from something self-like within, subconscious.
	You have to change your mind frame, change how you view the world so you can perform better and how you can treat others around you better.
	I'm sorry?
	How do you do that?
	You have to change your mindset.
	Try and change your mind.
	How do you do that?
	By experiencing new levels of education, understanding new perspectives in life, and applying it to your own life, your day-to-day, I don't know, huh?
	Huh?
	Yeah, I feel like honestly, it's like very basic when it comes to that, where it's like, it's just changing your perspective.
	It's like I can wake up and you guys don't share the same thing.
	Well, I know, but I'm kind of like trying to make it make sense, but I'm like, yeah.
	I mean, you said you said communicate.
	I don't even really want to share too much because I feel like this is like your platform.
	So I really would rather give it an opportunity to talk about dating and not to do with the way of life.
	That's actually fair.
	All right, moving it on.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	I've been single since June 27th, to be exact.
	June 27th, to be exact.
	Okay, so three weeks-ish.
	Yeah, basically.
	All right, and how long was that relationship?
	I wouldn't even call it a relationship.
	What'd you call it?
	We were talking for like two months, and then he asked me to be his girlfriend, and I said yes, and then he broke up with me a week later.
	Okay.
	So like a little fling.
	Okay, and longest relationship?
	A year and four months.
	All right, one year.
	And we originally we found you, you had some TikTok videos.
	Nick, could you pull those up?
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Actually, you know what?
	Hold on.
	Let me get through everybody's relationship status, then we'll come back to that.
	We'll come back to that.
	Go ahead.
	I have been in a relationship for four years, and it is my longest relationship.
	Is that the only question?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I am married.
	And that's, sorry.
	My longest relationship.
	We've been married three years.
	This year, together almost 10.
	And that's my longest relationship.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm taken, and the longest relationship was four years.
	How long's your current thing?
	We just started dating.
	Just started dating.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And do you have kids?
	I'm currently cooking one.
	All right.
	There you go.
	She's pregnant.
	Pregante.
	Cool.
	How far along?
	Almost eight months.
	Well, congratulations.
	Thank you.
	Do you know if it's going to be a boy or a girl?
	A boy, thank God.
	All right.
	And so going back to you, you said you been single as of three weeks ago.
	You were dating a guy for two months.
	So, and he broke up with you.
	He asked you to be boyfriend, girlfriend.
	A week later, breaks up with you.
	Why did he break up with you?
	I, okay, can I give the whole rundown?
	Is it?
	It's kind of like a quick-ish rundown.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Okay, so I asked him to get me something, and he didn't want to get it from me.
	And then that started an argument.
	And then the argument was at night, and so we slept on it.
	Oh, sorry.
	Next day, we didn't text at all.
	Then that same night, he's like, hey, I don't think this is going to work out.
	I go into things without fully evaluating them and looking at the repercussions.
	So I don't think I wholeheartedly want a relationship anymore.
	And that was it.
	What was the thing that you wanted?
	A vape.
	You wanted a vape?
	I wanted a vape.
	And how much did the vape cost?
	Like 20 bucks.
	Okay.
	Because I usually get them myself, but the store that I went to carted.
	And so I was like, hey, can you please get this for me?
	And he's like, I don't want to get that for you because you're not 21 yet.
	And I said, okay.
	And then we had an argument and that whole thing happened.
	Oh, okay.
	So there was like he didn't want some sort of liability there.
	Which like I understand.
	And I told him I was like.
	So then why did you have an argument about it?
	Because I told him I was like, okay, if you don't want to get it, I'll just find another way to get it.
	He's like, oh, no, I don't want you to get it from people who are like druggie users, things like that.
	Like, I would rather have you get it from me, someone that you trust.
	And I was like, well, you don't want to do it in the first place, so I'll just find my own other way to do it.
	And then I guess that started a little fire in him or something.
	Do you think he was wrong for breaking up with you?
	I do.
	Because we were talking for two months already, and he knew my personality.
	He knew the person that I was, and I knew the type of person he was.
	And he was interested.
	He said he was interested in looking for a relationship, but for him to cut him off, cut me off after a week over one mild argument that could have easily been solved, I don't know.
	It just didn't seem fair.
	What was the nature?
	I mean, how was the tone of the argument?
	Were you guys, were you yelling?
	No, we weren't yelling.
	It was over text.
	It was very like mutual.
	read it can i read the text messages Because, you know, sometimes people leave out certain details.
	I'm being 100% honest.
	I'm sure you are, but just, you know, without, you know, seeing the receipts, there's no point of contention or dispute as to what was said, what wasn't said.
	And from the, I could give you the guy's perspective of if you fucked up.
	He said that I was being kind of dry because all I kept saying was okay, because I just wanted to move on from what we were talking about.
	And then we just like ended the night with good night.
	And then he was like, oh, a girlfriend wouldn't just like sideline everything I say and not take into accountability what I'm saying.
	Like I'm trying to be serious and you're not taking me seriously.
	And then like.
	So he.
	I don't, in what world is that unreasonable?
	That's totally reasonable.
	Doesn't it?
	I guess, yeah.
	I suppose.
	Do you suppose?
	Because before you said unfair, unreasonable.
	Hold on just a sec.
	Negative underscore $200 donated $200.
	Famous Stoic philosopher Dicus Maximus Van Neuen once said, align with the cosmos slow vibrations.
	In quiet whispers, find wisdom and hidden paths to enlightenment and harmony.
	Yeah, that's the guy, I think.
	That's the guy.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Negative 200.
	Negative 200.
	Thank you.
	Donate 200.
	He didn't even quote Biggest Dickens or anything.
	That was the main philosopher.
	That was cool.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I can speak no lives.
	Yeah, so thank you, negative.
	So back to this.
	Have you guys spoken at all since?
	Or where did you guys leave it?
	No, we haven't spoken since.
	Okay, how did he end it?
	He just said...
	He was just like, oh, I ultimately decided that I don't wholeheartedly want a relationship with you.
	He says that he makes impulsive decisions without thinking about the repercussions or things like that.
	And I was like, okay, well, if you don't want a wholehearted relationship, then I don't want to do that with you.
	Well, I mean, you probably know better than us, but do you think that what precipitated the breakup was this argument that you guys had?
	I don't know.
	I really don't know.
	Because I thought everything was going fine.
	Because we've had like mild arguments before, but it wasn't like this.
	It looks like it's recovered.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Sorry.
	But we've had like mild arguments where we've gotten over them, no problem.
	And I thought this was just going to be another mild argument as well that we would get over, but I guess not.
	What else have you guys argued about?
	Oh, me going to parties?
	Oh, okay.
	What was the argument there?
	He said that he doesn't want to be with someone who goes to parties all the time.
	When I told him originally already that I do party promoting as like a little side hobby hustle, and he was like, oh, that's so cool that you do party promoting and you're in school and you work and stuff like that.
	I was like, oh my God, this guy thinks I'm like so cool.
	But then he's like, I don't want to be with a girl who does party promoting.
	Does he party?
	So you can understand that.
	I do understand that.
	That you could be a pimp, but that wouldn't make you a prostitute, right?
	That's not the way that that works.
	So if you were a pimp and you did have a ring of prostitutes, that would not entail that you yourself would need to sleep with the Johns, right?
	So if you're a party promoter, I don't see how the entailment is that you must party exactly.
	Well, I just go for my friends.
	My friends are all there.
	I'm friends with all the people that I host with, and they're all really cool people.
	It's not like I'm going out talking to 300 guys in one night, getting all their numbers.
	Are they coming to talk to you?
	Some do come to talk to me, and I'll be polite and say hi, but I will tend to just brush them off because no.
	Do you drink at the parties?
	Rarely.
	Rarely.
	Do you do smoke weed or anything like that?
	No.
	Okay.
	So in any case, this guy broke up with you.
	It seems like there's a little bit of sour grapes.
	Betting on there are other people, I'm guessing, at these parties who are drinking and doing some mild forms of drugs, right?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	But I try to stay super as much as I can.
	Mainly because me and my roommate, we go together and she likes to do all that stuff.
	So I drive home, if that makes sense.
	Is she single?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	So, like, when he first met you, he thought he said, oh, it's cool that you do the party promote.
	He said word for word, I think it's cool that you do photography and are a party promoter.
	He was probably just trying to make a conversation so he could sleep with you.
	Well, I mean, maybe he did think it's cool.
	Maybe he just didn't think an entailment of being a person who promoted parties was that you then yourself needed to go party, right?
	Because that's not an entailment of that.
	Like, I promote parties.
	It doesn't mean, it's like saying I'm a fight promoter.
	It doesn't mean I have to go to fights, right?
	Also, on that note, how often are these parties held?
	Thursday, Friday, Saturday?
	No, just like every Saturday, every other Saturday.
	Okay.
	And were there instances where, for example, he wanted to hang out with you on a Saturday, but you had to go to the party?
	No.
	Okay.
	Well, I mean, he had, so I guess when you first met, he had no problem with you engaging in what he considered single behavior.
	But once you guys start dating, he wanted you to act in a way that he thought was more consistent with being in a relationship.
	I think both men and women typically tend to prefer their partners to not be partying when they're in a relationship.
	So that could be a component there.
	Like when you start caring about someone, some of the behaviors that in the beginning that you are okay with, like the partying.
	Then he's like, well, now I don't want to share you with him.
	And if you're not going to give it up, then he's giving you up.
	There's probably this big argument, though.
	That was the cause of the word.
	I'm trying to figure it out.
	I don't even know.
	show him the text I just do it I just wish he communicated that like hey Just do it!
	I deleted our old messages.
	Lies.
	Prove it.
	Just kidding.
	You deleted the text messages?
	I deleted everything.
	I haven't blocked on everything.
	Isn't there a way that you can bring it back?
	Like an iPhone or an iMessage you press like a recently deleted?
	Gone.
	The large attachments?
	Gone.
	You can actually call your phone carrier and they'll provide some text back.
	Nick, can you get on that?
	Can we get those receives back?
	Wait, so then if you were in a relationship and your man asked you to give up going to parties, would you do it?
	I would say within reason because it is.
	Once within reason.
	I would say I wouldn't go like every time they throw because it does get tiring and sometimes I do not want to go sometimes because sometimes I do like a night in on the weekends.
	So I don't know.
	I mean.
	Is it required for you to go?
	No.
	I just like to go for fun.
	Did he ever come with you?
	He was supposed to go to one with me that Saturday, but he didn't because we broke up.
	Do you have more, Lizzie?
	Does that say that?
	Sorry, hang on.
	I just want to make sure I get this right.
	Just real quick before we move on.
	So you're in an argument about you going and partying too much.
	Yes.
	And your resolution to this was to bring him partying with you.
	I just want to make sure I got that correct.
	Because, okay, he's not a big, like, LA city party type of guy.
	He's more like kickback, close friends.
	And I was like, okay, I went to these kickbacks with him.
	They were fun.
	And I was like, okay, well, if I go to these with you, I went to like three.
	I was like, can you at least go to like just one just to experience it?
	And then he was fine with it.
	No, no, I understand the idea here of, you have this interest and I have this interest.
	And so I'm participating in your interest.
	Will you participate in one of mine?
	Yes.
	But this ignores what the argument is about, right?
	So let's assume that the roles are reversed and you're arguing with him about these get-togethers.
	And he was like, oh, well, I have a great idea.
	Why don't you just come with me to the get-togethers instead?
	That'll just solve the problem.
	Well, I didn't know it was an entire problem until we argued about it.
	Because before that, everything was totally fine.
	Like he was like, oh, like, it's cool.
	Like, yes, I'll go.
	Like, I already have my outfit planned.
	And then all of a sudden it's like, I don't want to go.
	I don't like you partying.
	It's over.
	Okay, can I?
	So I know that growing up in this day and age, we kind of saturate ourselves with the idea that partying while in a relationship is not a bad thing.
	Personally, I would never do it.
	But I would say that it's not just like a trust issue.
	It's a respect issue.
	So if you respect your boyfriend, you just won't party unless he's there.
	And that's my opinion.
	And that's what takes a relationship very far.
	So for future reference.
	For future reference.
	Protect his heart by not going to party without him.
	Yeah.
	A little invite.
	It doesn't hurt anymore.
	I think you weren't ready for a relationship because if you really do love someone and it's something that it's kind of like a non-negotiable to them, it comes down to like what's more important.
	Is it the relationship more important?
	Or if you show up to a party with your friends, cool.
	Are you gonna?
	It literally just comes down to that.
	So if he matters and you want to be with him, then going to parties or not going to parties is not that big of a deal because you're like, well, this relationship matters.
	I'm going to want to build on that.
	So, all right, babe, I won't go.
	But if we do go, then we can go together.
	Like, you can compromise that eventually.
	But like, initially, giving him that, like you said, the respect of you matter to me more and making him giving him that reassurance, and then you can kind of compromise.
	But yeah, I think it's just when you're really into someone, then you'll do the sacrifices.
	I have a question.
	Would you want to date someone that was partying every weekend?
	Like, if the rules were reversed?
	Like, was that something?
	Is that someone that you would want to be with?
	If they were getting paid for it, even if it wasn't required for them to go.
	Payment or not?
	That's a good question.
	I mean, I don't know.
	Half and half.
	Just curious.
	Yes, no.
	Half and half, yes, no.
	But it's like I'm the type of person who's very trustworthy, which is kind of a bad thing.
	So I will just trust my partner that they don't do anything.
	But at the same time, I'm like, it's a respect thing, like you said.
	Yeah.
	So, like, when a guy's at parties, your boyfriend or future boyfriend, the idea in your head where it's like he's putting himself in a situation for all of these girls to come up to him, for all these girls to hit on him, whether or not you trust him, that's still happening.
	Does the idea of that not bother you?
	I would, I guess it does, yeah.
	Because so that's how guys feel that when girls going to parties.
	It's just giving those guys an opportunity, whether you're taken or not, to give them, like, yeah, again, so to give them the opportunity to flirt with you.
	Yeah.
	You can totally say no, but you're there.
	Yeah.
	And you're letting it happen by being there, whether you say no or not.
	So it's true.
	That's a good point.
	It's a good point.
	I mean, there is a differential here because as a guy, if you go to a bar club party, you could just go get a drink, be in the corner, be in the main part of it.
	It doesn't really matter.
	Nobody's going to talk to you as a guy the entire night, whether you're single in a relationship or married.
	It doesn't matter.
	If you're a girl, regardless of your relationship status, men are going to approach you.
	Men are going to come and talk to you.
	Men are going to flirt with you.
	So there's a massive differential there.
	So even making a comparison between men and women, just it's totally different because the way y'all flirt as women is by putting yourselves out there.
	So when you're in a relationship, you need to stop your version of game, and we need to stop our version of the game.
	So for us as men, that's taking the initiator role.
	For you as women, you need to close off your options by not doing what you do as a single woman, which is to put yourself in a position to be approached, to be talked to.
	So for example, most women aren't going to slide into a dude's DMs, but you're going to post revealing photos.
	So in a relationship, the appropriate thing would be to, for example, the guy to stop DMing girls and for the girl to stop posting revealing photos.
	Or in the case of a bar, the situation would be the guy stops approaching women.
	As a woman, you stop putting yourself in situations where it's you have for pre-knowledge that you're likely to be romantically and sexually pursued.
	So this obviously doesn't look, you might get approached in Trader Joe's, but that's not really what we're talking about.
	I'm so glad him not dating donated $200.
	Hey, good to see you back.
	Thank you, bro.
	You missed your shot.
	I spotted your position, huh?
	Then you got headshot.
	You begged to fuck.
	Thought you could hide.
	Just pierced his ear, but didn't break his stride.
	Trump 2024.
	Trump 2024, baby.
	I'm so glad.
	He's not even a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	Yo, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Good to see you back in the chat, man.
	Yeah, that was crazy.
	I was watching all that stuff go down yesterday.
	Massive.
	Actually, we should maybe talk about the Secret Service and the women that were on his date.
	Brian, that woman had the most important job that there was.
	She was guarding the entirety of his midsection.
	I don't know if he knew that or not.
	Without her, I don't even think he would have been able to make it out of there.
	She was really, she was kind of shouldering the lion's share of the burden, if you will.
	I must have looked at that photo at least 30 times.
	And while it's true that it was iconic that Trump was holding his fist up in an American flag, and that'll go down in history, is probably one of the greatest presidential pictures ever taken.
	All I could think of was how stunning and brave that woman was who was trying to pull him off that battlefield.
	Yeah, well, did you see the photo of the other angle where there were one of the, not that woman, who, granted, did her job and was being a meat shield effectively.
	She did.
	After she got done falling on the ground, she did indeed grab him around the midsection and try to follow him out of there.
	Well, there's the woman who was.
	But it was a very slippery stage, to be fair.
	Well, I don't know if you saw this other angle.
	There's a woman who was like behind, and she was the one with short hair who failed to holster her weapon three times.
	I don't know if you saw that part.
	Well, okay, maybe, but these are new issue pistols that they have.
	And, you know, they're really big, and women have small hands.
	It really wasn't fair.
	If they had given her the proper equipment that was necessary, like all of the men got, Brian, I think that she would have done just fine.
	So I'm not going to take any of your absurd Trump bashing or any of your absurd bashing of his bodyguards who clearly did an amazing job.
	You saw the female sniper, the counter sniper.
	She was amazing.
	She did a great job.
	You saw her, right?
	no i didn't see her actually i didn't see them i thought you didn't see her No, I didn't see the female sniper.
	That's good.
	Nobody saw her because there's no such thing.
	But if there was, she would have done her job well.
	Okay, that's good.
	That's good.
	Anyways, that's just crazy.
	The DEI in the Secret Service.
	Okay.
	Where were we?
	I don't know.
	We were talking about.
	Partying.
	Oh, partying.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Not putting yourself in situations and relationships.
	Yeah.
	Anyways, I guess we'll move things on a little bit here.
	We did have a couple things to react to from you, though.
	There was the TikTok.
	I guess you can pull that one up, Nick.
	I don't even know how you found it.
	It came up in the For You page.
	I think that's how we actually found you, but go ahead.
	Oh, mute the audio, please.
	Yeah, I guess you can play it.
	When you date to marry, but every boy is a cheater, liar, isn't ready for a relationship, or lives off the planet.
	Okay, so.
	And so was this in reaction to the most recent guy, or was this about somebody else?
	I just did it because I felt like it.
	Oh, but I mean, I'm sure there's some truth to it.
	Well, I guess there's some truth to it.
	Obviously, not every guy, every guy on the planet isn't a liar, cheater, lives off the face of the earth.
	Yeah, well, was this most recent guy, did he cheat on you?
	No.
	Did he lie to you?
	No.
	Oh.
	He wasn't ready for a relationship?
	Is that kind of more so?
	Well, he was ready, right?
	No.
	Until you guys had a catastrophic argument about a vape.
	I guess, yeah.
	I suppose.
	Yes.
	And then lives off the planet.
	What is that?
	Like, lives far away.
	Like, would you hook up with an alien is kind of what you're talking about?
	No, like, I mean, like, lives far away.
	I'd hook up with an alien.
	Sign me up.
	Oh.
	You went and dated an alien?
	Like, what about like an avatar type alien?
	Oh, no.
	I mean, I'd hit.
	No, I like a lady.
	Okay, all right.
	He's tall.
	That's not.
	So, what does it mean?
	Short case matter, too.
	What does it mean to live off the planet?
	Like, they just live far.
	Oh, live far away?
	That's just what I'm saying.
	Oh, okay, okay.
	But so this guy.
	But it sounds like he was ready for a relationship.
	I don't know if he was, if he wasn't, but ultimately he made the decision to end it.
	Wait, let's role play the whole vape situation.
	We're walking through the mall.
	Was he a white guy, Asian guy, black guy?
	He's just a guy.
	Like a white guy.
	Just a white guy.
	White guy.
	Yeah.
	We weren't even like together.
	We were just texting.
	All right.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay, I'm.
	You're the one who's like, you're Bobby.
	All right.
	Are we strolling through the mall?
	It was at the mall.
	I was texting.
	Oh, you're texting me.
	We were texting.
	Okay.
	Hey, babe.
	Okay, I'm like, hey.
	Oh, so cool that you're a party promoter.
	I love it.
	Okay.
	It was like, no.
	Okay.
	It was like, okay, so the store I usually go to, Cards Now, can, who is going to get me my vape?
	And then he was like, not me.
	Not me.
	Not me.
	That's what he said.
	Well, he was just like, not me.
	Not me?
	Okay.
	He was just like, not me.
	You're not.
	If I get you this.
	I get you this.
	I'm just repeating it.
	He's like, if I get you this, it's kind of illegal.
	Into the mic.
	If I get you this, it's kind of illegal because you're not an adult yet.
	And I said, okay.
	Well, you don't have to.
	I will just find another way to get it.
	And then he was like, no, like, I'll get it for you, but I will feel bad because it is illegal.
	And I said, okay, then don't.
	Did you call him a pussy?
	No.
	I mean, what a punch.
	This guy wasn't even willing to do criminal activity for you or anything.
	What a real piece of garbage.
	I will say I did call him a bitch once.
	Oh, bro.
	You can't leave that shit out.
	Wait, okay, hold on.
	What's the context here?
	Was this during the vape conversation?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	There shouldn't even be any context.
	You can't call him mad a bitch.
	That's like the respect is out in the middle.
	Wait, let's hear the rest of it, though.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	I was like, if you don't want to get it, that's fine.
	But I'm my own person and I would still like to get one.
	I let him know.
	I was like, you're not my dad.
	And that I am my own person and I will do what I want with the money that I have.
	Well, I don't think he was trying, he wasn't trying to prevent you from getting it, right?
	No, he was just like, it's illegal.
	I don't want to get it for you, point blank, period.
	But then you said, well, I'll get it from somebody else.
	But then he had safety concerns of like, oh no, what can you, can you like taint a vape?
	I don't know.
	I don't know either.
	But how did you, what was the context of you calling him a bitch?
	Let me rethink.
	Was it during the vape conversation?
	Yes, it was.
	Okay, what did he say then?
	What did you say in context?
	I think it was because he just knew I vaped and he knew it was like vaping is like a bad thing and he wanted me to do it less.
	And so I let him know.
	I was like, okay, I will take that into consideration, but I am my own person and I will do it if I want to.
	And then I think that's where I called him a bitch.
	So what exactly did you say?
	I said, I said, okay, I understand.
	Can you stop being a bitch?
	Did you put Lil in there?
	L-I-L, did you put Lil?
	Did you put Lil Bitch?
	I just put it was just a bitch.
	So there's a couple things here.
	You're not allowed to call guys bitches?
	No.
	It just feels like he was trying to do what was best for you.
	You have to understand, like, okay, here's two things.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Two things.
	First off, this is one of the very, like, we spent about five minutes talking about it, but you, you withheld a very important piece of evidence that we could have used to prosecute you for your crime.
	No, but like, this is what people do.
	They'll like, they'll downplay what they've done wrong and they'll exaggerate what the other person's done wrong.
	I've, me personally, I've never done that ever.
	I always am totally 100% honest.
	If I did something wrong, I'll say it.
	I will paint a good, especially if I'm asking for advice.
	I'll always be sure, okay, here's what I said.
	Here's what they said.
	I won't leave certain details out to try to pay me in a better light.
	But you calling him a bitch is like the major, bro.
	A guy wants to feel respected by his girl.
	Respect is huge for men.
	Men will kill other men because other men disrespected them.
	It's not even, won't even necessarily be about money.
	If a guy disrespects, I'm not saying all men will do this, but men will literally kill other men for feeling disrespected.
	And as your woman, he wants you to, he wants you to respect him.
	I mean, I think this goes both ways.
	But for men, like, respect is on a whole nother level.
	You can't, like, you don't respect your man if you're calling him a bitch.
	It's respect as to men.
	That's a breaking.
	There's no going back.
	Yeah, no, there's like men put respect above love.
	So the way we want to receive love is that respect.
	So if you don't respect a man, you can't expect him to be a provider, protector, because he's like, he doesn't respect me.
	So why would I do any of these things for her?
	So the moment you call him a bitch, it's like that's like the cardinal rule you never do.
	If you want to break up with someone, call a man a bitch.
	Like, not even in a joke, not anything like that.
	But respect is literally the most important to a man, just like how we want to receive love.
	So yeah, I mean, that is the reason for the breakup.
	I don't even think it has anything to do with you partying.
	It has nothing to do with any of that.
	It's the fact that he just doesn't feel respected.
	I find it interesting too that just kind of going back to the TikTok as well, that you're having a hard time finding like marriage or like these long-term relationships.
	But for me, I would never call my husband that just because of that respect.
	So it makes me wonder if, you know, it's okay if you're not ready for marriage, but you're just maybe not ready for that long-term like committed relationship.
	You know what I mean?
	Just something.
	Yeah, on the TikTok, you wrote dating to marry.
	And dating to marry, like, that's what I do.
	When I decide to date, I put myself out.
	I act like a wife, right?
	Because I'm trying to attract a husband.
	So if my actions don't align with what I want, then I'm not going to attract the guy that I want.
	So if you're saying dating for marriage, that's a big thing to say.
	If you're just having dating to date, cool, do whatever you want.
	But no, you can't even, you want a wife.
	You can't call a guy.
	Of course.
	No, I'm not saying the bitch.
	That's a whole, that's absolutely non-negotiable.
	That's like literally, yeah, no.
	But I'm saying like dating to marry, it's different.
	Like you really have to portray that person to attract that.
	Because if you're partying, you're calling him disrespecting him and all that.
	It's like, that's not dating to marry.
	Like, that's.
	Yeah.
	Do you think that when you said I'll get it from someone else, he thought you meant another guy?
	Or was it truly about the baby?
	Because given that you were a partier, that's where my mind went right away.
	I said someone else.
	I was talking about like my friends mainly.
	Also, I didn't know it was.
	I don't know if it's just the younger generation, but I didn't know it was a cardinal rule not to call a guy a bitch.
	Like, I didn't know that.
	It emasculates that.
	Like, I really didn't know that.
	Wait, let me ask you a question.
	If he called you a cunt, would that be chill with you?
	That'd be cool.
	I think they're not.
	Hold on, let's let her answer.
	Hold on, let's go.
	I'm like trying to picture him calling me a cunt, and it's like not happening.
	Yeah, yeah, no, no, no.
	But the question is: if he did, if he were to, we're not saying that he would.
	We're just saying if he did, would that have been okay with you?
	No, of course not.
	So I guess I'm seeing the opposite end.
	Wait, so what is the culture, though?
	Because you said you're 19, right?
	So, I mean, what is the culture?
	The culture is talking shit to me.
	I'm 20.
	I'm here with you.
	Yeah.
	Everyone nowadays, they just talk shit about each other.
	What?
	Like, that's it.
	But maybe that's why relationships aren't lasting.
	Yeah.
	There's the risk of the music.
	Bro, what's wrong with Gen Z women?
	Get the fuck.
	Bro.
	No way.
	That's why everything's like so grassy greener.
	It's like, there's no respect.
	These guys are just ready to jump from one thing to another.
	There's no respect.
	There's no like core values.
	There's none of that.
	That's why there's relationships are.
	Gen Z men start calling these women cunts.
	That is literally the equivalent.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	But you're trying to say that it's cool for like, oh, that's how it is.
	We just call men bitches.
	I'm not saying that.
	I was just telling her I'm in that generation too.
	And I was going to say something.
	You were co-signing.
	No, I was saying I'm in that generation too.
	I'm 20 years old.
	I'm in that generation.
	But I do not agree with Luchi.
	Bro, there's no generation where any guy who's like actually worth anything is going to tolerate his girlfriend calling him a bitch.
	I understand that.
	I feel the same exact way.
	I had a guy explain to me how he is going to call me a bitch because it's just a word like you my bitch.
	Like, no, I'm not.
	No, it's not different.
	It's the same.
	They're both bad things.
	You don't do that on either part.
	Okay, good.
	No, I was going to say, even with you, when you're yelling at your man, you're literally emasculating him.
	You stood there for hours.
	Whether you're frustrated or not, men do not listen if you're yelling at them.
	There's coming to your man for a solution and there's coming at him.
	When you come at him, he's not going to listen.
	He's going to tune you out.
	There's no respect.
	So the way you speak to men, and it's funny because I feel like now generation, like you said, there's no good man.
	There's plenty of good men.
	It's because this generation emasculates men.
	You guys, it's the women aren't their masculine.
	Oh, this is where Jess and I will fire up.
	Where it's feminism has definitely ruined all of that where it comes to men being men.
	Men step up.
	There was, I don't know if you guys saw that article that there was some girl that was drowning and the guy saved her, saved her life, and then he was like, she was going to sue him for touching her.
	It's like, this is, no, not even that.
	It was like, oh, he touched me without my consent.
	Bitch, you were under the water.
	You were dying.
	Like, he literally saved your life.
	And she's like, well, for a brief moment, I was grateful that I was alive.
	For a brief moment, you were grateful.
	This is why men don't step up because when they do the right thing, they get crucified.
	Damned if you're damned if you don't.
	Yeah, it's literally that.
	So it's like, why should we try?
	If I try, like you said, I'm damned.
	If I don't, then it's like, so it literally comes.
	If you want better men, be better women.
	Because it starts with you, how you act, how you carry yourself, how you talk to them.
	Treat a man like a king.
	He'll treat you like a queen.
	Elevate him, respect him, and you'll get that because if you don't, then...
	I want to say one thing.
	I got to say one thing.
	This is a public service announcement to any whoever the youngest person is who's watching this.
	You could be Gen Z. You could be 16, 17, 18, all the way to whatever age you could be.
	Well, the youngest person watching this right now is eight months old.
	Oh, it is true.
	There you go.
	Is it a boy?
	Yeah, it's a boy.
	Okay, advice for the boy in here who's cooking.
	All right.
	Public service announcement.
	If your girl calls you a bitch, that is an insta-breakup.
	You just say, even if you're in person with her, you just say, this conversation is over.
	You need to leave.
	That's the end.
	No further conversation.
	The relationship is over.
	You're done.
	You tell her to leave.
	She's at your place.
	Get out.
	Conversation's over.
	Delete her number, whatever you have to do.
	But yeah, that's it's a wrap.
	Yeah.
	It's a wrap.
	If a girl calls me to.
	I've got two follow-up questions here.
	One for you and then one for the girl with the picnic dress.
	So the first thing for you, you say often, well, I wanted to go to these parties to hang out with my friends.
	I wanted to go there to hang out with my friends.
	My friends are all there.
	Did you happen to have any exes who went to these parties as well?
	No.
	Not none?
	None.
	No dating interests at all?
	None.
	They never went to these parties.
	All right.
	And then over to picnic dress.
	You say, ah, no, it's the same thing.
	When a man calls a woman a bitch is when a woman calls a man a bitch.
	Would you say that if a man and you were sleeping together and in the throes of passion, you would say something like, suck it, right?
	Or something like that, that that would hit the same way.
	That's what any of these pedestrian parasites have to say.
	Tonight's show should be an emergency meeting dedicated to Trump.
	Canceled, convicted, and shot.
	Everyone better vote Trump.
	Raised fist.
	What's up, Mike Davis?
	Good to see you in the chat, man.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Yeah, would it be if we did a stream yesterday?
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Would you say that that would hit the same way?
	Wait.
	If in the throes of passion he said something like that, he said something like, called you a bitch or something like this.
	Wouldn't that be a little more excusable?
	In the throes of passion?
	Do you mean like during like...
	Yeah.
	No, that's never okay.
	I feel like that's when I'm my like purest, like most like intimate self.
	I feel like you should treat me with that same respect as well.
	Like I am like my most like naked, innocent.
	Like I need that same reaction, like kindness.
	Are you going at it hot and having it's like, take it, bitch.
	You think that that's him trying to insult you?
	No, I wouldn't say that.
	I'm being honest, right?
	Because when you say, oh, wait, wait, it's always the same.
	It always hits the same.
	Clearly, there's instances where the word is used where the, I mean, the context always matters, right?
	So it's not going to hit men the same way as it's going to hit women any more than, you know, somebody who was into getting degraded while they're having intercourse.
	They might not like being called a bitch outside of that setting, but inside of it, maybe they're fine with it, right?
	No, it's not okay.
	It's not okay inside of that setting or outside because in that setting, you're most connected.
	So if you allow that in a situation where you're most connected, like you can't not expect it in every other situation.
	No, that's called boundaries.
	That's when you communicate what you want.
	If you're a freak in the bedroom and you want to be thrown around, call names or whatever it is, it stays there.
	And then when you're outside, that's different.
	It's a completely different context.
	But men, regardless, you do not call a man a bitch.
	Like, period.
	Well, that would be weird if you were like in the bedroom.
	You're like, you're a bitch.
	I mean, unless he's into that.
	I mean, the bedroom, the bedroom, I think, is different.
	Everybody got into that.
	Yeah, but I mean, I still wouldn't even do that.
	I would not let him speak to me while we're having a sexual intercourse.
	It may not be roaming.
	It's a wrong person.
	It may not roam the dishes.
	Come on.
	Get stocking through his family forever.
	He's going to call you whatever the hell he wants in the bedroom, and you ain't going to say a word about it, right?
	Like, that's the truth.
	He still hasn't learned to respect me outside of the bedroom.
	That's what I was explaining to you earlier: is that as much as I wanted to be there, as much as I was putting myself in the positions to be around him, I still didn't be like with him because I knew that there was no respect there.
	And what I'm saying is, regardless of if a woman likes to be talked to a certain type of way in the bed, you're asking me, and I'm telling you that I don't, and I would not allow it because I don't allow it outside of the bedroom.
	And that, those are the things.
	Okay, well, let's try it a different way then.
	Let's see if these two things hit the same way.
	Okay.
	So let's say that you called your man daddy in front of your father.
	That's crazy.
	I would never do that.
	Yeah, but my dad, he would trip.
	What?
	Do you think that that might, even though, even though you call your father dad, right?
	Or something, some variation of this, don't you think it might hit him a little differently the second we have different context around this?
	I would never do that.
	My dad has called me.
	No, no, no.
	The point isn't whether or not you would do it.
	The point is whether or not you could see how there would be different context and why it would be bothersome, even if you're using the same word.
	I don't, I don't know.
	I wouldn't say that like outside of just me and him.
	Like, I know I'm telling you guys, like, I called him fat daddy, but I wouldn't call him that in front of other people.
	Like, I would call him.
	If you called your dad fat daddy, would it hit him a little different, do you think?
	Yes, it would, because I don't see it.
	Yes, it would.
	So context matters.
	Context matters.
	But I wouldn't call my daddy.
	So you went over your dad and you're like, hey, have a sandwich I made you fat dad.
	He's not going to take it the same, right?
	My dad was never fat, so I wouldn't call him that.
	I specifically called my ex that because he used to be fat when we got together.
	No, I get it, but if you went to your father and you were like, hey, you know, I made you this delicious sandwich on this nice Saturday so you can relax.
	Here you go, fat dad.
	Do you think that he would take it the same way that your ex no, of course not, right?
	No way.
	I don't understand what you're trying to get at here.
	What I'm trying to get at is that the reason I'm saying you can use the same word and it can be more derogatory towards one person than it is another is because context matters.
	That's why when Brian says, look, he disagrees, if you say bitch to a woman, it doesn't hit the same as when you say it to a man.
	Context matters.
	I wasn't disagreeing with that, though.
	I was saying that it's you did disagree.
	No, I said that calling a woman a bitch is terrible and calling a man a bitch is terrible.
	I feel like those are both disrespectful.
	Yeah, but no, you said they're equal.
	They're not equal.
	They hit different.
	Disrespect.
	That's how I feel.
	It's not equally disrespectful because it hits him different.
	Just like it would hit your dad different if you called him fat daddy versus your ex, you see?
	They're both disrespectful, though.
	There's a difference.
	They're both disrespectful.
	You shouldn't be putting disrespect on a level of damage.
	No, they're only disrespectful depending on context.
	And I just gave you multiple times where there could be context where you use a word where it's not considered disrespectful.
	Perhaps your pet name for a chick, like you called this guy fat daddy, is dumb bitch.
	Maybe that's your pet name for her.
	Hey, dumb bitch, come over here.
	And she just loves that.
	Is that disrespectful then?
	That is disrespectful.
	He allows you to get that.
	It's still disrespectful even though, but calling your ex fat daddy isn't.
	Okay.
	He allowed me to call him that.
	That was something that we talked about and something that he was okay with.
	Yeah, so if she's okay with it.
	Hang on, hang on.
	If she's okay with it, then how could it be disrespectful?
	Because he wasn't okay with it.
	It has to be a little bit of a title.
	Yeah, no, no, no.
	Listen to what I'm asking you.
	If you have a situation, stop, stop, stop talking for a second.
	The reason I'm asking you to stop is because you're not hearing what I'm saying.
	Go ahead.
	A guy and a girl agree.
	He says, My new pet name for you is dumb bitch.
	And she goes, yay, I love being called that.
	It's great.
	Right?
	It's my favorite.
	Is it still disrespectful for him to call her that?
	If she allowed it, then that's fine.
	What I'm saying is that.
	Right, but that's my point is that within the frame of context, different words hit people differently.
	And the bottom line is, you just don't call a guy a bitch.
	Unless you want to call me a person.
	I'll give you the best example ever.
	Like the easiest example ever.
	Right?
	If someone agree.
	I think we're going to be able to do that.
	If someone feels disrespected, stop pradling.
	Stop pradling.
	Just listen.
	Stop pradling.
	Because you don't get it.
	You don't get it.
	Stop prattling.
	You're still pradling.
	Stop prattling.
	I listen to you.
	Stop prattling.
	You're still prattling.
	I would like you to do the same for me.
	Stop prattling.
	So if someone tells you something and they feel disrespectful, then it's disrespectful.
	But if they say it's okay, stop, stop, stop.
	Then that's okay on your end.
	Hold on.
	I'm moderating this conversation.
	If I tell anybody to stop talking, I need you to stop talking.
	Okay.
	So because it's what's going to happen, Andrew's going to say his piece.
	You'll have a chance to respond.
	Let him say his thing.
	Then you can speak.
	Go ahead.
	Thank you.
	So I'm just going to give you the easiest example of this ever so that there's no confusion at all.
	Would it hit a black person differently if a white person called them the N-word than if a black person called them the N-word?
	I've been having this conversation with a lot of personal with the people around me, Stacey.
	Wait, am I?
	Okay.
	I've been having this conversation a lot with the people around me.
	A recent coworker of mine, he told me that it is just as disrespectful because if it's a degrading word when someone else says it, then it's a degrading word when we say it to each other.
	So yes, it's disrespectful on both sides.
	That's not my question.
	My question isn't whether or not it's disrespectful.
	My question is, would it hit differently if a white person called a black person the N-word versus if a black person called a black person the N-word?
	Wouldn't it hit differently?
	No, it would hit the same.
	It hits the same.
	You're so full of shit.
	Nobody's ever going to believe that in a million years.
	No, but you're not listening to what I just said.
	I just had a conversation with a previous coworker of mine and I called him a nigga and he said that's very disrespectful.
	I said, no, it would have been disrespectful if somebody who wasn't able to say that said that to you.
	He let me know that that's disrespectful for me to say that to him as well.
	Because if it's degrading on somebody else saying it, then it's degrading on me saying it.
	So are you going to stop listening to rap music?
	It's not.
	Wait, you're not letting me finish though.
	What I'm saying.
	Yeah, but I mean, listen, listen how illogical this is.
	That's like saying, oh, I'm not going to listen to rap music anymore because it says the word in it.
	Let me just finish what I was saying.
	What I'm saying is that I didn't think like that before.
	I thought exactly what you're expecting me to think right now.
	But when someone had the conversation with me and they let me know that it's just as degrading for me to say it to him, knowing that I'm the same race as him, for someone else to say it to him and they're a different race, that changed my mindset.
	That changed my perspective on it because it is true.
	I got it.
	If someone else were to say that, I need to take that same initiative and understand.
	Yeah, I know, I get it.
	You don't have to reaffirm the same point five times.
	I get it.
	I just want to very quickly follow up with this.
	Do you think that if you were to ask 1,000 random black people in the street, just 1,000 random black people, would it hurt you worse if a white person called you the N-word than if a black person called you the N-word?
	How many of them do you think would say yes?
	Most, very, or very few.
	How many?
	I want to say I'm not exactly sure.
	100%.
	100%.
	I was like that.
	That's what you're not understanding, though.
	I was the person who thought exactly what you're saying.
	Like, okay, if a white person calls me a nigga, it's bad.
	But if a black person calls me a nigga, it's okay.
	Wait, hold on.
	But I wasn't sure if you were just getting to yourself.
	I was able to change my mindset because when I did that to someone, they let me know that it's just as degrading.
	The thing with it is you're not listening.
	You're not listening.
	Listen, let me tell you what he's asking.
	Your mindset has changed, right?
	That's what I'm saying.
	That's not what he's saying.
	We never know until we talk to you.
	You're right, but that's not the question.
	The question is a basic black and white.
	It's literally: if a person, if a white person calls you the N-word versus a black person, it's a lot more.
	But not everyone when they say you have the card.
	Yeah, I get it.
	I'm moving it on.
	I'm moving it on.
	Okay, Nick, was there something we were pulling up?
	Yeah, we can pull up the.
	We gotta pull this up, which is the video you want.
	Oh, we'll come back to that actually.
	I'm gonna bring it back to yeah.
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	Okay, so back to you.
	In your TikTok, you said when you date to Mary.
	So, I mean, for you, what does it mean to date to marry?
	You date to marry.
	What do you mean?
	Thank you, ABC.
	You date someone to potentially end up marrying them.
	What does that look like to you?
	Like, how do you carry yourself in a relationship to date to marry versus just date to date?
	Well, I don't know.
	I've never been married.
	Well, obviously, I've never been married either, but there's characteristics.
	So, like, let's say, what is your ideal?
	If you pictured your husband, right?
	What are those characteristics as a wife, as someone who wants to be married?
	What are the characteristics that you think you should have to date to marry?
	Or, like, does that make sense?
	Yeah.
	Well, if I picture my husband and me as a wife, I would picture me as caring, loving, takes care of things around the house while also trying to make income because in the future, I want to live in a household that has dual income if possible.
	Does that make sense?
	What do you look for in a man?
	What do I look for in a man?
	I would say someone who's stable, I guess.
	All I really look for is stability.
	Like, if you can't keep a job, then I don't want to be with someone like that.
	Can I ask you something?
	So, the guy that you said broke up with you, he refused to buy you a vape.
	He obviously wasn't totally okay with you vaping and he didn't want to buy it for you because he didn't essentially want to break the law.
	So, isn't that a green flag in a man?
	Because that shows that he takes care of himself and he's also, you know, willing to be straight as far as following the law, doing all of those things right.
	So, maybe you kind of have to change the way that you're putting yourself out there and you will find that man that you mentioned in the TikTok without moving.
	Because I know you mentioned that a lot of them like live far away.
	So, do you get what I'm saying?
	Yeah.
	That was actually a good point because, I mean, one of the things with the vape, in addition to it being illegal, it sounded like he had an issue with your.
	Are you addicted to nicotine?
	No, I could quit if I wanted to.
	You could quit if you're not going to be able to do it.
	I'm planning on stop not vaping when school starts again.
	Do the vape cartridges, do they have nicotine?
	Yes.
	Okay, so you could quit if you wanted to?
	Yeah.
	Why, why do you want to quit?
	Once school starts, yes.
	Why is that?
	Just because I know that I've been doing it for a long while, and I see that since it's not affecting the outside of my body, I don't see it as a bad thing, but I know internally it's hurting me, so I want to quit once school starts.
	But I mean.
	So this guy who he didn't want to do something illegal, but he also wanted to see you do something healthy by quitting the vaping.
	Wouldn't that be like positive husband material, positive characteristic?
	Well, yeah, it was positive.
	But regardless, I still wanted to do it, and I hoped that he would understand that.
	Right, but he was trying to do something like he was trying to help me.
	Yeah, and you punished him for it.
	Do you think that?
	You called him a bitch and disgunned an argument.
	Do you think that maybe it was because you felt like he was controlling that aspect of your life and you didn't like that feeling?
	It did because in the argument, he was making it a point that since I was younger than him, I was naive and I didn't like that.
	How old is he?
	He's 21.
	And you're 19?
	Well, I mean, that's not a massive thing, but.
	I mean, was he wrong, though?
	Well, I don't know.
	Well, you said that you were naive why?
	for vaping, for being addicted to, no offense, Andrew.
	Being addicted to nicotine?
	Well, I guess, yeah.
	Isn't that typically a bad thing?
	Well, like, at this day, who doesn't vape anymore?
	Like, me?
	Who does?
	I vaped at one point and then I didn't, like, literally.
	I don't know if everybody was shooting up heroin.
	But the thing, the logic of it doesn't make sense.
	If you already know that it's not good for you, why not cut it now and wait till school?
	Like, it's just, I think the mentality of it is you want to do what you want to do.
	And it comes to, I don't know, I don't want to say insecurity, but it's like thinking that it's control when somebody wants something good for you.
	It's like, I want to do what I want to do.
	And I'll be honest, in my 20s, I wanted to do what I wanted to do.
	I don't want to be told what I want to do because it's that stubborn.
	You still have a, you know, you want to be your independent woman.
	Don't tell me what to do.
	But really, when it comes down to it, if you're looking for a husband, a husband is a leader, is somebody that I think there's that word of submit, which triggers a lot of people.
	But when you come to, if you want a husband who's a true leader, true provider, means you trust him to relinquish control and trust that he's going to make the right decisions for you.
	You submit to that man in a sense that he's going to take care of me and the decisions that he's making for me is the best decisions for us, for me.
	So in that sense, you trust him.
	Like, you know what?
	You're right.
	Partying is not a good look for me.
	Vaping is not a good look for him because all those things are going to make you better.
	And that is the qualities that you do want in a man because he's making the right decisions in he's basically investing in your future because he's like, I want this woman and I want the best version of her because in relationships you make each other better.
	So those are qualities that you should look for.
	And I think you say you want to date to marry.
	You're not even remotely ready for that.
	But I think it's just a matter of working on yourself and realizing that when you truly want a man, you have to be ready to, if he's the right man that leads, protects all of that, then you can submit to him and trust him to make decisions for you.
	So you had an issue with him trying to, you said like it was controlling or whatever?
	It felt like that in a sense.
	He's trying to control you.
	Like how so?
	I don't know.
	Well, like I said before, he made it a point that since I was younger than him that I wouldn't listen.
	I was naive.
	I was stubborn.
	Well, were you?
	I don't know.
	I was just like very upset in the moment.
	So would you do girls get naive and stubborn when they're upset?
	Some do.
	Sure, yeah.
	I mean, there's a difference between bossing and leading, too.
	So, I mean, you could, it just goes back and forth.
	It's just a matter of what you wanted.
	It's like you didn't want that relationship period, like, realistically.
	Does he vape?
	Does he smoke weed at all?
	Oh.
	So it wasn't necessarily a health thing.
	It was just your underage.
	That kind of changes.
	Well, take a little bit of a flag back.
	It is pretty unfortunate.
	Like, the U.S. was actually doing pretty in terms of its, no offense, Andrew.
	It's was moving towards this very anti-tobacco.
	Like, it was super stigmatized throughout the 2000s.
	But then, like, vaping came on in early 2010s.
	Yeah, we've been trying to change that slowly but surely.
	But super stigmatized.
	And then the vapes came in and pretty much destroyed like a generation basically and got them hooked on nicotine.
	I mean, I used to smoke cloves.
	I don't even think you guys know what that is, but it's like the jar six cigars.
	I know what cloves are.
	Yeah, so I used to smoke before, like when they used to crackle, like back in the day.
	And like when you were smoking in the social settings, you smoke, but when you're vaping, you're 24-7.
	You're like pumping those things in your line.
	Whether it's zero nicotine or it has anything, it's crazy because there was a time that I was like, I started doing the vaping too, and I was like, I feel like I'm doing it way more than I would have smoked.
	It's better if I smoked than vaped.
	Anyways, going back to your original TikTok, you also said when you date to marry, but every boy is a cheater liar.
	So have you had personal experiences of men like cheating on you or lying?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	How many men would you say you've dated who've cheated on you?
	Just one.
	Oh, just one?
	And then how many men have you dated who didn't cheat on you?
	Like three.
	Oh, okay.
	I guess I'm not.
	So I guess not everyone.
	I was over-exaggerating in the TikTok.
	Yeah.
	Also, there was another TikTok.
	I don't think we have it pulled up, but it says it was like a song or something.
	It says, why can't you want me like the other boys do?
	They stare at me while I stare at you.
	Yeah.
	Is this the same guy?
	No.
	Is this the guy who, okay, is it a different guy?
	Was there a guy in mind when you for that one?
	No, I just like the song.
	Oh, okay.
	No, that's literally the point of the book.
	I thought you resonated.
	No, I just like that song.
	Okay.
	It reminded me of the lonely meme.
	Nick, do you have the lonely meme?
	We haven't pulled that up in a while.
	So, like, when women say that they're, like, lonely, can't find a boy, can't find a guy, should be on the tabs.
	Yeah, this is kind of, yeah, this is kind of like, oh, I think this is women's experience.
	Oh, I can't find a guy.
	I'm so lonely.
	You've got like 10 suitors, dozens of suitors.
	But you just reject them.
	It's because everyone, women have such high expectations of unrealistic, high expectations of men, in my opinion.
	Do you want to expand on that?
	I just think that, I mean, social media, I think, plays a lot into this, but I mean, even I own a salon, so you probably know this.
	Lots of women coming through, lots of conversations.
	And it's just, you know, he isn't tall enough.
	He doesn't make enough money.
	He's not this.
	He's not that.
	It's like what happened to meeting a genuine person and growing together personally.
	I don't know.
	Absolutely.
	Word.
	Not everyone's perfect.
	Back to you.
	I think there's another one, another TikTok.
	You said, don't lead people on for three months, bro.
	Hashtag wasted three months of my life.
	Was that the same, this guy?
	That one was about the same guy.
	But so how you feel like he led you on?
	He said himself that he led me on during the breakup?
	Yes.
	He led you on how?
	Because he ultimately decided he wasn't ready for a relationship when he thought he was.
	Well, so he led me on.
	That's after you call him a bitch, though.
	Yeah.
	I mean, maybe it's just that's like it wasn't, it's not you, it's me.
	Yeah, it was like you don't want anything.
	Yeah, it's an exit strategy for sure.
	Yeah, he was probably just trying to let you down easy.
	Probably.
	But do you feel like you were led on?
	Yes.
	But I don't get this whole thing.
	This always has confused me.
	It seems like if a guy's not willing to commit or he ends an existing relationship, he's almost always framed as the bad guy for wanting to end a relationship.
	Whereas it occurs to me that women reserve the right at any moment to end a relationship for any reason.
	Frankly, I think anybody can end any relationship for any reason.
	You can date somebody or choose to not date somebody for any reason.
	Everybody has their own preferences, standards, and boundaries.
	But it's just interesting to me.
	Like, just why the framing here of like, have you ever ended things with a guy?
	Yes.
	Did you lead him on?
	No.
	Did you end things with the guy because he did something wrong?
	Yes.
	Okay, so then why is it that when you end things with a guy, it's because he did something wrong, but when a guy ends something with you, he also did something wrong.
	Because when I end things with the guy, I give the guy chances to fix his mistakes.
	Like if his behavior is.
	If he cheats on you?
	No, Just like if I notice like patterns, like he's not putting in effort or things like that.
	Well, that's that's nice of you, but you're not required to do that.
	I'm sure you agree.
	Yeah, I'm not, but I'm the type of person to have hope in things.
	Yeah, but I feel like he told you.
	If his reason was that he doesn't want to party, girl, he told you he doesn't want to party girl.
	But then again, I'm just going back to it.
	You called him a bitch.
	And that was, he was done in that moment.
	But he technically gave you a reason.
	So.
	Well, then that was his reason.
	But it's just weird.
	It's like, okay.
	If a guy breaks up with you after dating you for three months, six months, whatever, he led you on.
	But if a girl breaks up with a guy after three, six months, however long, it's for reasons.
	That's just ego, though.
	It's just that.
	I feel like that's the ego of being led on.
	But it's not leading.
	I don't think it's leading somebody on if you break up with somebody for a reason.
	If you don't want to be there, you leave.
	That's the thing.
	Like, if you can't be led on unless their intentions are different, unless they're telling you they want certain things, they want you to be a girlfriend, marriage, all these things, and then that's not really their intention.
	And they're just trying to hook up with you.
	Okay, that I understand being led on.
	Cool.
	But if it's, if you both decide that, hey, this is the person I want and you're moving toward a relationship and you want the same goals.
	And that's why it's important to talk about values and goals and what you want in the beginning.
	So you're not led on because you know exactly what you're getting.
	So.
	With everything that we're telling you, do you agree?
	No, yeah, I'm soaking it all in and I'm like reminiscing.
	Okay, and for future, are you gonna change that?
	Probably, yeah.
	Because I know right now I am young, and so I do make stupid decisions sometimes.
	So hopefully when I'm older, I'm...
	You're young, but you're still an adult.
	So you're capable of doing everything.
	You were capable of doing it right from the start.
	It's just you didn't.
	So just take heed what we're saying.
	Cool.
	That was a good question, actually.
	How old do you want to be?
	Like, have you obviously said date to marry, but do you want to get married really young?
	Are you wanting to have a family young?
	I mean, because you are young right now.
	So it's totally fine to party while you're young if you want to get married a little later.
	But are you looking to get married like very early?
	Is that your idea?
	I wouldn't say like early, like probably when I'm done with college.
	It's in a couple years.
	So yeah.
	I mean, I would just say if you should look at what type of husband you want, and that goes with like lifestyle, travel, party, everything.
	And it's kind of like showing up to a job interview.
	So if you show up to a job interview in your pajamas, you're probably not going to get the best job.
	If you want someone to accept you in your pajamas, you're going to have to get a job that hires people in pajamas.
	So it's attracting what you actually want.
	So, you know, you can't just go into something wanting this really good husband and be like, well, just accept my baby and I'm partying.
	You know, unless that's the type of guy that you're looking at to marry.
	Can I say something to you?
	Okay, go ahead.
	It'll be very kind.
	All right, go ahead.
	I would like to, I dream of getting married when I graduate college too as well.
	I think that we should just take this time to like really like learn about ourselves and what mistakes we can make, even if that's like choosing our needs first, like you with the whole vaping thing.
	Like I have like not talked to people because they took my vape or like they didn't want to give me one.
	Like trust me, you're not alone when it comes to that.
	But we do need to work on that.
	And like if we are like looking for someone that wants to spend the rest of their lives with us, how are we living our lives?
	And like what are we going to do to make it a better situation for us to be in a relationship?
	Like I feel like we should like take like deep looks at ourselves, not just you, but me too.
	And like just notice like even like calling him like a certain type of name and out of his name, like maybe thinking about, okay, well, would it be okay if he did that to me?
	And like I can do the same thing, like yelling at people, like burning their stuff, like is that okay if they do it to me?
	Like just kind of like asking ourselves like how we can move forward without like hurting the other person, even if it's really small or even if it's really big.
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	Well put.
	Really quick on the whole like don't lead people on thing.
	Like this is again, just going back to my confusion here.
	So would it be leading a woman on if I told her I want a long-term, I desirous a marriage, want a long-term relationship, but then she gets the commitment, she gets the commitment, but then she, like, nobody's obliged to stay with somebody really for any reason.
	But if we're dating for six months and then like out of the blue, she just like starts, I can't even calls me a bitch, or I'm trying to think of an extreme example, murders my family.
	Is it leading her on if I break up with her after she's gone and murdered my entire family?
	Even though I told her I wanted a long-term relationship.
	So, I guess my thing is, it's not leading a girl on to say that you're gonna, you wanna date her, but then she behaves in ways or does things that you don't like.
	No more, and I wouldn't, a woman could break up with a, this isn't like a double standard thing, a woman can break up with a guy because he's being lazy or whatever the reasons are that you don't want to date.
	There's something you can be led on.
	If you're an adult, you're making a decision to be somewhere with someone.
	I'm saying in that situation, like trying to just play the devil's advocate, but you really can't be led on.
	It's like, yeah, behaviors change.
	There's that people change.
	People, you kind of like grow, either you grow together or you grow apart.
	I don't think it's leading on.
	And I think the other thing, damn it, totally just slipped my mind.
	What was the other thing?
	It was really good too.
	It was going to blow all your minds, but it just like just left my mind.
	So if it comes back to me later, I guess I'll think about it.
	What did the video?
	The video?
	From the Daily Mail.
	Yeah, we can.
	Actually, let me pull up a couple chats first and then we'll.
	All right, we have Bucky Larson.
	Lizzie, can you read this one?
	My third cousin just sadly got divorced and he has two kids.
	Ladies, would you sign a legal contract that said whoever initiates divorce is entitled to nothing?
	He has two kids, ladies.
	Would you sign a legal contract that said whoever initiates divorce is entitled to nothing?
	Going around the table, would you sign that contract?
	Whoever initiates the divorce gets nothing?
	I think circumstantial.
	So if my husband told me to stay at home with the kids and I stayed at home and then divorced, probably not.
	So it depends on what type of marriage or what situation we were going into.
	If we are both working, yes, I would sign it.
	I think so.
	I think I would sign it only because if I'm prepared to leave the relationship, the marriage, I have to know at the back of my mind that could be losing everything.
	So that's why I would.
	I agree with Jess.
	Well, I would just like to say counsel, not cancel.
	And I would just say, like, over time, the heart changes.
	So if someone falls out of love, it's not really their fault.
	It's like, I wouldn't sign that.
	No, I wouldn't sign that at all.
	Wait, you wouldn't sign it?
	Because if someone wants to divorce me because they're no longer in love with me, is that necessarily their fault?
	Like, the heart changes over time.
	Relationships are work, though.
	Like, that's something that you have to continue to work on over years.
	Like, every work is not 100%.
	If it's not working, we're working on it, working on it, it's not working.
	What do we do?
	Just sit in hell together?
	I just think when you get married to someone, that's something that you're committing to them for the rest of your life and you're going to work through the ups and downs.
	And it's going to be hard.
	Marriage isn't easy.
	Yeah, I'm not saying to give up easily, but I'm not going to stay in something that I know is not working.
	Even if we try, we go to counseling, we do this.
	I see marriages that are not healthy for the children.
	Right, so you're fine with divorce?
	I mean, I don't like divorce, but I'm not, I don't want to sit with someone I'm not happy with.
	Okay, but so the question is: whoever initiates divorce is entitled to nothing.
	Nothing, yeah, I wouldn't sign that.
	So you are entitled, you feel entitled to something in the world.
	If we both have kids, then yeah, we need to take care of our children, like split the house, split whatever we need to split.
	But I don't think.
	Even if you're the breadwinner.
	So like let's say you're out earning your husband.
	I'm sorry.
	If you were out earning your husband and he wanted to divorce you, you're fine like paying him alimony, child support, etc.
	I mean if that's what it came to, yeah.
	If I could afford that, yeah, of course.
	What about you?
	I agree with her.
	I think, I mean, I also agree with her as well.
	I think it's situational.
	Just depending.
	What about you?
	I agree with them.
	Like it's situational.
	Yeah.
	What do you mean, situational?
	Like overall, just being prepared, and if both of us are working.
	Does that make sense?
	I think she said something similar like that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, it depends.
	Yes, I would sign.
	Okay.
	I would, because I think that if you're having too many doubts about signing that, you probably shouldn't be making a lifelong commitment to that person.
	Because a lot of people, especially younger nowadays, just go into marriage with the idea of like, oh, well, you know, if it doesn't work out, I can get divorced.
	That should not even be something you are thinking about at all when you're going into marrying someone.
	I would sign it.
	I agree with her.
	Well, you got to just restate because I would only sign it depending on this circumstance.
	So, like, what's the circumstance?
	If we were both working, I would sign it.
	However, if I was a stay-at-home mom and let's say he cheated, I don't give that chance.
	And I think that I wouldn't sign it if he betrayed our marriage.
	Yeah, so I think the original 50-50 was because of families, right?
	But now a lot of people aren't having families anymore, but women are still able to take 50%.
	So I think that's kind of where the issue is.
	But you should talk about this if you're married to someone and see: do you want to have a family?
	What does that look like?
	Are we both going to work?
	Do you want me to stay at home?
	And that's why you shouldn't get married as a guy.
	I think.
	I don't think you should get married.
	Don't get married.
	Who's going to take care of you when you're old?
	My long-term monogamous girlfriend.
	What if she dies before you?
	Well, I guess I'm going to go to the bathroom.
	What does that have to do?
	Well, yeah, that could be the same thing.
	Here, let me.
	So, who thinks who objects to my don't get married position?
	Them too.
	What about you?
	No, I think marriage, too many people just do it because just to do it.
	I think marriage is something people should think about as far as like lifestyle beliefs, family, all those stuff.
	It's not just the next step in a relationship, and I think that's why divorce is so high.
	It's sacred.
	To me, it's sacred, and that's why for me, when I get married, if I get married, then it's safer.
	No, it's sacred.
	So, for me, the vows are sacred.
	Like you said, relationships are work.
	I put my all-in my relationships letter on the marriage.
	Where when I'm married, I don't believe in divorces.
	We're working this out.
	We're figuring it out one way or another.
	We're a team, so we'll figure it out.
	Yeah, you say that now.
	No, I stick it through.
	I'm one of those through very the good and the bad.
	I will stand by you, and I've done that in relationships.
	So, I know as a wife, I will stand by you no matter what, but it does take two, so I can't save a relationship by myself.
	So, I mean, not to poke too much here, but you said your longest relationship was three years.
	Three and a half years.
	You're 40.
	I mean, you haven't really, I'm not poking at your age, but I mean, that's a you have not had like a substantially long-term relationship.
	Well, I was celibate for about five years that I didn't want to in between those two relationships.
	Yeah, these were these were to me serious relationships where I tried.
	Yeah, sure.
	Three is decent, but I mean, it's not like super long, you know?
	Well, it's pretty long for me, but again, it wasn't on my end, and we tried, and it I gave it my all, and the person wasn't ready to give me what I wanted.
	Sure.
	Now, I think you guys had maybe some disagreements on the marriage stuff.
	Yeah, I originally, when I messaged, that was one of the questions that I'd answered, and I said I was like, oh, that's so sad that you don't want to get married.
	However, I listened to one of your podcasts and I can't remember exactly what you had said, but just kind of you saying, I'm not super religious, so I can't even stand on the whole, you know, I'm religious and I think that's why people should get married.
	But I do think for me personally, you're going into it 100%.
	It's divorce isn't an option.
	So for me, that's kind of like that last seal, but no different than like a prenup or something like that, too.
	So I agree.
	I understand why you don't want to get married just because people, I think it's more disposable for a lot of people than some.
	And I can't remember exactly what you said in your podcast or in one of the shows as to why you didn't want to get married.
	If I remember correctly, I think that he said something along the lines of even if you have a prenup, there's a good chance that it could get thrown out and she could still take like half of everything that he has.
	So, which I understand that if you're not religious and it doesn't hold a lot of value to you, then don't get married.
	Well, I mean, there's a whole bunch.
	I have a lot of justifications for my anti-marriage stance.
	I actually don't object to it for people who are religious, but from my own self, outside of religious reasons to get married, I actually don't really see any reason to get married, but I'm open to hearing any challenges to my position.
	I think you two raised your hands in objection.
	I'd like to hear.
	So let's say you have a long-term girlfriend who's loyal to you and she's pregnant.
	I don't know if you have any children, but if not, that'll be your first child.
	And she's asking you for commitment and security.
	She wants security in the home.
	She doesn't want to think that you'll leave her for another woman and get another woman pregnant, and that's why she wants marriage.
	What would you say to that?
	What would I say to what?
	To that proposal.
	Proposal.
	Saying she wants to get married because she gets pregnant out of wedlock, but okay, we can have that conversation.
	Oh, yeah, it happens, but I mean, we're already not a traditional arrangement to begin with.
	So what will us being married achieve that, oh, so her.
	I'm saying to you, how she benefits.
	How do I benefit?
	You need to sell if you want.
	you're my security you need no no no this is a This is the woman's perspective.
	If you want to convince me as a man to get married, how do I stand to benefit?
	Okay, if you're, if we're together, I'm assuming we're in love.
	So if you love me and you love our future child, I want a house together.
	I want to build together a family.
	I can give you that without marriage.
	I don't want you to leave me for another woman and get her pregnant and go and do the same thing with her that you're doing with me.
	Wait a minute.
	Why does marriage?
	Why does marriage?
	Why is it benefiting him?
	Why is marriage necessary even for that?
	I mean, I guess being the man of the house, I was assuming.
	Was your argument, was your argument, if I love her enough, I should get married to her?
	If she loves me enough, she should stay with me despite my desires to not get married.
	I mean, what would your behavior be?
	Why are you opposing marriage?
	You don't want to be committed to me?
	You don't want to give me the security that I desire?
	Why can't I be committed to her outside of marriage?
	Because I don't believe that.
	I don't believe me.
	I don't believe that you won't divorce me.
	Then you guys shouldn't get married.
	It just sounds like.
	Okay, so I can give you reasons.
	I can present to you reasons why I'm not really for marriage.
	I would actually like, though, to hear, I think this is a good starting point.
	Can you present to me compelling and convincing arguments why I or other men should get married?
	I think the first thing that came to mind is that how serious a real man is.
	So if you are a real man, a real man who stands on his word, you stand on your word, you stand on what you do in life, and you say, hey, you're the one I want, and I want to live the rest of my life with you, and I don't want to.
	I don't need a marriage for that.
	Why do I need a marriage?
	You're saying that, prove it.
	Show by your actions, you have the action to put my hand in wedlock as in a commitment.
	A commitment is to severe, like, I think that that's totally hard.
	Let me give you a.
	Commitment is marriage.
	And that's a very quick, easy rebuttal to this, and I'm just curious.
	Okay.
	So you're the one.
	Let's assume the man says, you're the one that I want forever.
	They think that you're great.
	You're the greatest ever.
	I want to only be with you for the rest of my life, and I want to commit to that.
	Will you commit to give him a prenub so that if you divorce him, you get nothing?
	Is this the same question?
	Yeah.
	It sounds like a statement.
	Would you?
	Would you commit to a prenup so that you get nothing if there was a divorce?
	I already said no.
	I don't agree with someone signing into marriage and not getting anything.
	If you both put in work and you just leave the marriage with nothing, I don't think that's fair.
	Well, that's really quite the strange argument then to say, well, wait, I expect this lifetime commitment from you in order to prove and demonstrate that you love me.
	Where's the demonstration of love from you?
	What do you mean, where's the demonstration?
	I want to love you.
	Well, couldn't you demonstrate that you were equally as serious by saying it's fine.
	I would sign a pre-nub if I decided to do that.
	I know what I'm doing in life.
	If you ask a question, you have to give me a second to answer the question.
	Yeah, I would sign a prenup.
	Yeah, I know.
	So anyway, hang on, calm down.
	Let me finish.
	Chill out.
	So if the argument is to say, hey, I need a commitment from a man, so he only picks me.
	Okay, that's it.
	It's just me.
	And that's his demonstration he loves me.
	Couldn't the man then equally say that the demonstration from the woman to show that she loves him is that there's any sort of infidelity, cold bed, or financial irresponsibility, things like this, she leaves with nothing regardless of who initiates the divorce.
	Yes, I agree.
	That's just showing like you're trying to say, okay, I'm going to be a real man to you, but I want to make sure you have my back no matter if you change as a person, you signing this is showing me you're real, that you would never do this.
	So if you do do this, then that's on you.
	Like if you do cheat on me, if you do not take care of your money, if you do not take care of my kids, do not take care of me as your husband, then yeah, that's on her as a wife.
	Then why would there be a requirement of marriage at all?
	Because that's commitment.
	That's the excuse.
	Yeah, but you can make those same commitments.
	There's now no safeguards.
	So if you made the commitment external to marriage, how is that not the exact same thing as you making the commitment in marriage?
	It's holy matrimony.
	It's like saying, okay, we're dating is the same thing as us being married.
	How is that the same?
	You're taking the vow.
	It's not about the money.
	Because I can't take marriage into money.
	And that's my question.
	You have to let me answer it.
	Calm down.
	Okay.
	So the question which was asked is, how is this the same?
	We're talking about commitment.
	So if you are dating, you say, I want to commit to you for life, but I just don't want to do the marriage thing.
	And if we do do the marriage thing, there's not going to be any protections for you anyway because you agree to sign them all away.
	So what would be the distinction exactly?
	It's like comparing a baby mama to a wife, or like, this is my wife and this is my kid, or this is my baby mama and we live together.
	Is that the same?
	Is that the same?
	I don't see why you couldn't have a commitment with a woman.
	Because it's a whole lot of things.
	Okay, okay, listen.
	Listen.
	Yes.
	Logically, this could be the exact same.
	It would logically be the exact same to say, I'm married to you, or I'm committing to you for life and you have the same exact outcome both ways.
	How's that not the same thing?
	It's absolutely not the same thing because marriage is a vow.
	It's a holy matrimony.
	If you don't take your word seriously as a man, hey, I would love to, I want to be with you the rest of my life.
	Holy infernal.
	It's religious.
	No, no, no.
	It doesn't have to be a relationship.
	I'm talking about a secular argument.
	It's not holy.
	If it's secular, it can't be a marriage.
	Marriage is holy because you're actually taking a home and putting your protection over it for your life and your death.
	After you die, you still, that's your wife.
	If you die, that was your wife.
	In this life, how would that be wholly absent religion?
	It doesn't have to do to religion.
	Yeah, that's what we're talking about: secular marriage.
	We're not talking about your body, your mind, and everything into this person.
	The problem is, we're arguing against arguments I'm not making.
	So we're talking specifically about secular.
	We're talking about specifically secular marriage.
	Secular.
	You know what the word secular means?
	Please inform me.
	You don't know what it means, do you?
	You don't actually know what secular means.
	Tell me what you're saying.
	Take an estimated guess.
	I could take an estimated guess, but I just said please inform me.
	Okay, then take an estimated guess, as you put it.
	It would be an educated guess, but you can take an estimated guess.
	What is your estimated guess about what secular means?
	One, like to be in one secular, like specific, specified specific?
	I don't know.
	One, I don't know.
	Erroneous.
	Erroneous.
	I got to take a break after that one.
	Okay, I'll take over.
	I'll take over here for a second.
	Do you want kids?
	Hold on.
	So, okay, secular.
	That would be like a religious, not religious.
	Oh, I've never heard that term.
	You guys got to speak into the mics.
	You're too far away.
	Sorry.
	Never heard of the term.
	But thank you for educating me.
	You've never heard the term secular?
	Not in this tense, no.
	Okay.
	So.
	In any well, what tense have you heard secular in?
	No tense.
	Okay, you got it.
	You got it, okay?
	This was your first win.
	Thank you.
	Okay, so secular just means non-religious.
	Not specific.
	It means non-religious.
	I did say that, non-specific.
	I did say that was my estimated guess.
	Well, yeah, being in a marriage, I feel like.
	Non-specific.
	It doesn't matter.
	I just mean non-scale.
	I feel like if you're married and you have a baby mama, that's not a good idea.
	Okay, thank you for the clear.
	It's not the same.
	Like, it's just not.
	Okay, it's not the same, I guess.
	Isn't it?
	It's just complicated.
	Okay, so I've yet to hear an actual compelling argument why I should get married.
	Do you want kids?
	I think kids is a big thing.
	Sure, yeah.
	I want seven kids.
	All right, if you want seven kids, what's the last name for the children?
	The girlfriend or yours?
	And would it bother you, since she's the one carrying them, if she just said, well, I want them to have the same last name as me, and now you did not share the same last name as your children?
	I think that's a good reason, too.
	You can be a requirement of marriage?
	I'll just rebut it myself.
	So, okay.
	First off, you don't need to be married in order for your children to take your last name.
	But what about the girlfriend?
	Yeah.
	And then she gets excluded.
	Now she doesn't share the same last name as her own children.
	What does that have to do with anything?
	Why would the kids take your last name instead of your girlfriend?
	So what's your argument here?
	If I don't marry her, she won't put.
	Well, that's what I'm saying.
	So if you don't marry.
	Okay, cool.
	Then you know what?
	We can go 50-50 on everything.
	And she can protect us in the event of a home invasion.
	Fine.
	That's cool.
	Yes, you can put the father's last name on your birth certificate, even if you're not married.
	Yeah, you don't have to be aware of that.
	I know that.
	But you can choose the last name, is what I'm saying.
	Yeah, so if you were to say, we're in a committed relationship and I want the children before we have them to have my last name and you agree to it, why would that require marriage?
	No, that's true.
	If you agree to it, honestly.
	If you agree to it, that's if you agree to it.
	But the thing is, is like what she's saying is these questions.
	Hold on, if you're married.
	Even if we're fucking married, she can still say she doesn't want my name.
	So that's a bullshit argument.
	No, that wouldn't be an automatic.
	It's a fucking toaster brain argument.
	Even if we're married, she can say, I want hyphenation.
	I want them to have my last name.
	This is why it's important.
	I think if you are going to get married, that's why I don't think marriage is for everyone.
	But if you are going to get married, you should talk about this.
	But it's not a compelling argument.
	It may not be for you, but I know if I had kids, it would really bother me if they didn't share the same last name as me.
	And I also don't believe in hyphenating names, so I took my husband's last name.
	So if I'm pregnant with your child and you don't want to get married to me, I'm going to just leave you and go to the next with your child in my life.
	That's a major L for you.
	But no, it's like I want to find someone that's going to build a family with me.
	She's going to get married.
	And you're not putting a ring on it.
	That's not going to be a moment.
	You're not putting a ring on it, like Beyonce said.
	So let's, what's the point of me and you being together?
	You're just leading me on.
	You're just giving me a fantasy of a home.
	Like, oh, I'm playing wife and husband.
	You don't want to be afraid of me.
	But you're not trying to come.
	You're not in a fight.
	You guys break up.
	There's no.
	Okay, we're broken up.
	This is still not a king.
	You've still failed to make a compelling reason why I ought to get married.
	You can't get married.
	It's just like.
	Like, if you want to get away from that.
	This is all from the female viewpoint.
	Me, I have not heard a compelling reason why I, as a man, should get married.
	You said you want someone to take care of you when you're old.
	I literally never even said that.
	I don't know what you said.
	You said, who's going to take care of you?
	You're like, oh, my monogamous question.
	Girlfriend or something.
	That was a question posed to me by somebody else.
	I never said that.
	In fact, I'll even engage with that.
	I don't need marriage to have that.
	What's your next point?
	I have one point that I feel like you can debunk if you like.
	But if you love someone, like you truly love them to the bottom of your heart and you want to be with them for the rest of your life, why do you not want to marry her?
	Why doesn't she, if she really loves me, not want to do some bullshit government thing which involves the state in the world?
	No, it doesn't have to be the government.
	It could be something sacred, like going to a temple or just going to Hawaii and having someone.
	I'm not sure relationship is regardless sacred.
	Yeah, but that's why the example is non-religious.
	So what he's saying is non-religious.
	So yes, he's granting it.
	And yeah, he's right.
	Yeah, if it's non-religious, sure.
	That's a great reason to do it.
	But if you're not religious, then yeah.
	What would the actual compelling argument be?
	There's none.
	It's not really for tax benefits.
	Yeah, no, so he's right.
	Yeah, you don't have to get married if you don't have that spiritual faith that this is something important.
	So if there is no religious or spiritual backing to the marriage, then he is absolutely right.
	Men shouldn't get married.
	If that's, they don't have that spiritual faith.
	It's not even just men.
	It's men or women.
	Like I was saying, I don't know who.
	Well, hold on.
	If the man's the breadwinner, women have absolutely everything to gain by getting married.
	Well, yeah, I mean, if you want to get a lot of celebrity women, like share.
	Men are overwhelmingly breadwinners in relationships.
	I mean, I'm all for the gender role when it comes to that.
	Well, that's because women are a lot more masculine, and feminism has fucked that up.
	So that's a whole different story.
	Like, when I get married, the reason why, like you were saying, the age thing, I don't want to settle.
	I'd rather be single and be happy than settle for something I don't want.
	I want a true protector and provider because I will play my role as the wife, to be the peace, to be the nurturer, to take care of the home, take care of the kids.
	And if I can't have that, then I don't want that.
	Like, same thing with that goes.
	But I don't need to, the society is not going to put a thing on me that you need to be married, you need to have kids.
	No, I don't need to do any of that.
	If it's with the right person and I get everything that I want, 100%, I will be all for it.
	If not, I'm happy taking care of myself, providing for myself.
	If you're not adding value to it, if you're not a protector and provider, then I'm going to continue to protect and provide for myself.
	Why do I need a man?
	A man has a true killer of cereal donated $200.
	What attitude do you bring to the relationship that is not selfish in context?
	Perhaps your boyfriend feels detached from the idea based on a rocky past.
	Is he or are you afraid to break it off?
	Why?
	Yo, kill of cereal, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Really good to see you in the chat, man.
	You are.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	What attitude do you bring to the relationship that is not selfish?
	Wait, who's this directed to?
	Perhaps your boyfriend.
	I think maybe girls in general.
	Uh killer of Siri.
	What attitude do you bring to the relationship?
	Perhaps your boyfriend feels detached from the idea based on a rocky past.
	Is he or you afraid to break it off?
	Why?
	Maybe this is a previous conversation when we had with the breakup.
	Anyone can break up and I want to ask you something after you were done speaking.
	I'm ready.
	Oh, so with his point, like, because I was saying marriage should be like holy and sacred.
	Like, that has to do with non-religious, or that has to do with religious or a spiritual belief of something higher.
	But he was saying, no, I'm talking about as in just non-religious, nothing to do with spirituality, just a woman and a man.
	I don't want to get married.
	Do you believe that he is accurate in that standpoint?
	Like of him saying that there's no reason for women and men to get married.
	I mean, there's no religious or spiritual complaints.
	As far as when it comes to financial benefits, there really isn't any for the man to do that because as a man, yeah, they're the protector and the providers, yeah, right?
	So they have to, they have to take care of the whole family.
	So it's like, really, there isn't a benefit.
	Yes, have someone to take care of you, be your peace, be your nurturer.
	You can have all those with the relationship.
	I think the security of the marriage comes in that, hey, we are taking a vow.
	Yes, relationships, you can recommit to yourself.
	Like I was saying, what is it, Goldie Han?
	Is it Curt Russell?
	They've been together for 20 years.
	They've never gotten married.
	They just choose to be together every year.
	And you can have that too.
	So I feel like it's, I don't know.
	With me, I just don't believe in divorces.
	So for me, if I'm going to get married, it's all in.
	I want everything I have and we're going to put in the work.
	So if not, then I'm not really in a rush or thing about marriage either.
	Because I mean, so with that whole thing, though, women reserve the right at any moment to change their minds.
	So let me ask you guys a question.
	Do you think a divorce would be justified if the woman was just vaguely unhappy?
	So the guy treats her well, provides for the wife and the kids, isn't abusive in any way.
	Maybe he's just boring.
	She's unhappy.
	She's just vaguely unhappy.
	He's not abusive.
	He actually treats her perfectly, but she's vaguely unhappy.
	Is that enough justification for her to get a divorce?
	No, change perspective.
	Okay, that's plenty of plenty.
	Very often, that's precisely the reason for women wanting to get the divorce.
	There's no evidence of any abuse whatsoever.
	The woman is just vaguely unhappy and needs to find herself.
	Yeah, but see, I feel like it's the same thing.
	Men can change their minds as well.
	Like in the relationship that I was, he was the one that kept changing his mind and coming back.
	It's like making the permanent decisions on temporary emotions.
	And it's like, you can't do that.
	Anyone can change their mind at any time.
	But it's, it's, I think the marriage is more of the security where, yeah, you can walk away from the marriage a lot at any time as well, but there's a lot more to lose.
	So you're more committed into working it out as opposed to a relationship.
	Because if you walk away from a relationship, you're not really losing much.
	You are, obviously.
	It gives the woman or the breadwinner.
	Well, it gives the woman massive leverage to basically bully the man around in the relationship.
	Yeah, but I mean, yes, necessarily.
	Well, if you have children, like to stay together, like and to raise the kids together and make a like a happy home, even if you necessarily aren't happy, that takes a lot of strength and courage.
	And to grow old together, like you guys are old and taking care of one another, I don't necessarily think that old people love each other like the first day they got married.
	Like love changes over time.
	It's like the maturity, having that maturity and courage to stay and build that family because we're a family and we don't want to break.
	Why do I need a marriage for that?
	Because it's strength.
	It strengthens the family.
	I truly believe that strengthens the family.
	Oh, did we just hear the who hurt you shit?
	Did I just hear the who hurt you shit?
	Who are you, Brian?
	Did you?
	Who are you?
	Well, by the way, Killa.
	I don't know.
	Killa of cereal.
	Can you shoot me a DM on Instagram?
	Because I know you sent in a TTS.
	Don't want to skip over it.
	I just, perhaps, could you provide a bit more clarification?
	Feel free to DM at whatever on Instagram.
	I'll be on the lookout for it.
	I don't know if we've DM'd before.
	Just bump up our messages, but I don't want to just skip over it.
	So if you can provide, is this directed at somebody specific, Killa?
	Anyways, yeah, I still, yeah, just don't get away with that.
	I think you should not get married.
	Like, if that's not what you want for yourself, then you should get everything that you do want for yourself.
	Like, we should not convince you.
	Like, you shouldn't convince someone.
	I just don't think you will truly be happy with your life if you don't get married.
	Why?
	No.
	Why?
	Because I think it's a part of happiness.
	Tell me, here's a different question.
	Hold on.
	Here's a different question.
	What do I get in a marriage that I can't get from a long-term monogamous relationship?
	The security of it.
	What's security?
	I would actually security mean in a marriage.
	No, but I could just make the argument.
	I can make the argument that simply by virtue of me getting married, I've now introduced an incentive to the woman.
	Let's say I'm, I mean, unless a woman's making a lot of money, I'm probably going to be out earning her significantly.
	So by marrying her, I've now introduced an incentive where if she does divorce me and we've been married for a long enough period of time, she gets a financial payment for divorcing me.
	Whereas if she breaks up with me and we're in a relationship, then she actually has a loss on her end.
	So are you scared of relationships?
	Not scared of relationships at all.
	Are you scared of financial or are you scared of divorce?
	The financials are scared of losing that word divorce.
	He's right.
	It's just a more honorable thing.
	Like I said, that was my main point was being a real man.
	That was my first point.
	It's more honorable.
	You took the highest level.
	I don't know how you're related to that.
	One at a time.
	I don't think, I don't know how your relationships work.
	Like, if you're dating someone, does she move in with you?
	Does she live with you?
	I don't even know.
	But in a marriage, if you're dating someone, they shouldn't just automatically move in with you and live with you 24-7.
	I feel like that's just too fast.
	But when you're married, you take that step, like, okay, let's live together and let's build a family, let's have kids.
	I'll cook for you breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
	Oh, I can get all of that.
	I'm sure you can without marriage, but it's not.
	I wouldn't say that's not fulfilling.
	It's not.
	There's no feeling.
	It's just not the highest you could go.
	Let's say there's a mountain, right?
	And you know, everyone knows the mountain is the high, the point of the mountain, the tip of the mountain is the highest point.
	Everybody knows marriage is the highest form of commitment.
	Am I wrong?
	Is marriage, yes or no?
	Is marriage the highest form of commitment?
	I could think of higher forms of marriage.
	From a secular perspective, no.
	I'm sorry?
	He said, from a secular perspective, no.
	Okay, so what is the highest form of commitment in a secular perspective?
	It would just be whatever two human beings agreed it was.
	No.
	So if you said, okay, well, can I get my answer out before we spur again?
	So anyway, yes, if two secularists agreed that they were committed to each other and that they were the highest form they could ever be, how could you ever demonstrate that they weren't?
	Because I just don't truly believe that you will feel secure with your aunt.
	She will feel secure?
	Because you feel?
	The argument is because I feel.
	Oh, I feel like you're wrong.
	Oh, well, so as long as we just feel, then I guess it's okay, right?
	You feel like that?
	I feel like you're wrong.
	Thank you, Killer.
	Question for panel.
	If we get married tomorrow, what will you bring to the marriage that will make it very hard for any man to want to have divorce on the mind?
	What are you willing to sacrifice?
	We'll go around the table on this.
	Go ahead.
	So, my thing's a little bit weird, but I give my husband, and I've done this for five years, every single night without skipping a night, but I give him a foot massage every night before bed and then give him a back massage every night.
	I make drinks for him.
	I mean, I basically cater to everything he needs because he is the breadwinner.
	And my job is to basically distress him because he is always stressed.
	What you're providing is very good.
	I will grant you that.
	But you don't need marriage to have it, so go ahead.
	Oh, Lord.
	Okay.
	I would bring definitely a spiritual bond to the table.
	I feel like I wouldn't even be that far in a situation with somebody if they didn't have traditional values or a spiritual relationship with whatever it is.
	It doesn't have to be what I'm spiritual with.
	So I feel like what I would bring to the table would definitely be being able to communicate with them where they can't with others, being able to talk to them where they can't with others, and opening up where they can't with others.
	I want it to be something that makes us special and makes us seek a higher form.
	And I think that that's something you can't just do with everybody else.
	Well, value.
	I mean, it's not necessarily marriage.
	I think in every relationship, a man needs peace and being his peace and being the nurture and taking care of whatever he is, especially if he's a breadbunner, then it's everything else is on me.
	It's like, how can I provide for you, provide that peace, and give to you if you're doing all the heavy lifting?
	So, yeah, Devon Jackson donated $200.
	Enough of the shaming language.
	He's not scared.
	He's not insecure.
	It's simply more beneficial to him to get the benefits of a wife without the risk of divorce in a secular context.
	It's not that deep.
	It's not that deep.
	Yo, Devon, good to see you, man.
	Thank you.
	I don't even know.
	Like, if you're asking him to stay on a tightrope that he's walking across, and if he falls off, he's going to fall into a pit of spikes.
	I would be pretty insecure.
	I'd be pretty scared and insecure.
	You ladies in the corner seem to only want the marriage as a status symbol.
	Again, where is the benefit of marriage for Brian?
	Okay, like I said in the beginning, obviously, just Gerald is kind of slow.
	I can't believe that.
	What's up, Gerald?
	Hey, don't you dare talk poorly.
	Okay, well, I'm Gerald.
	Okay, I'm sorry, Gerald, but I'm sorry.
	I just have to say that the beginning point.
	Excuse me.
	If you don't have God in your life, if you don't believe in a higher form, a higher power, then yeah, don't get married.
	Do you have God in your life?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Are you Christian?
	I'm a Muslim.
	I'm a little bit.
	All right.
	Okay.
	I'm like.
	Cool, cool.
	Yeah.
	So there's no point.
	And I said that.
	I was like, you're right.
	I didn't say that.
	I'm just curious.
	In your faith.
	Are you a practicing Muslim?
	Yes, I am.
	Really?
	Yes.
	You want to ask me the prayer times or what?
	Wait, one question, one question.
	The thing with it, if you want to bring Islam, then that's a slippery slope because you can talk about siq.
	You can talk about how they have multiple wives.
	Yeah, I was going to ask you to talk about all these things.
	Talk about it.
	You guys would, but so you're fine if, like, your husband has multiple people.
	Yes, it's four, you're correct.
	But in the Quran, you have to, the woman has to be okay with being open to another sister wife.
	If she is not okay, she has to write it in her marriage contract.
	I do not want him to marry me.
	In Islam, the woman has to be submissive to her.
	Yes, she has rights.
	There's right in his house.
	She has to give her a business.
	She gives her husband permission.
	So if the husband before marriage, hold on.
	If it's the husband's will and desire to have multiple wives, but the woman's like, eh, I don't really want that.
	It's her call.
	Yeah.
	Because in order for a man to marry four women, they have to one treat them all equally.
	If I buy her a Lamborghini, I have to buy her a Lamborkini.
	She's right.
	If I buy her a house, I have to buy her a house.
	I'm not an expert in that.
	There has to be equality to be just.
	Even if he does not love them the same way.
	Okay, so if in the marriage contract.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah, but that's up to means, too.
	So if you cannot afford four wives, you cannot marry four wives.
	Yeah, you can't spend your money.
	But it's up to means when it comes to their material goods.
	Well, they all have to be provided the same, and they're right about the consent.
	As long as there's means to do so.
	Yeah, but if there's not means to do so, then it's provided that you can provide for the younger ones more than you can, the older ones, for instance, if that's what the means are, which are available.
	No, It's not all arguments being debated.
	Yes, you do.
	Well, they can do that, but that's not the whole.
	That legal of it is not, you can't do that.
	You have to be providing equally for all the wives, and the first wife does have to consent.
	There's like sir where it's like temporary marriages and all that, but I mean, there's rights and then there's no rights.
	So, I mean, Muslims are not.
	There's rights in Islam.
	In culture, it's not.
	That's two different things.
	Islam is peace, but culture, like Iranian culture.
	Tradition, it's culture and tradition.
	That's completely different than religion.
	Abu?
	Yeah.
	Get the rocks.
	Get the rocks.
	What?
	It's free process.
	Nothing.
	I don't know.
	Nick, why did you press that, Nick?
	Nick, come on, dude.
	Rude.
	Back to me bringing peace to my man.
	Anyways.
	Yo, Gerald.
	Good to see you in the chat.
	Dayvon, good to see you in the chat.
	Where were we?
	I think I was just checkmating you guys all over the place on marriage.
	We didn't get to them, though.
	Do you want to finish?
	We were talking about what we bring to relationships and whatever.
	Oh, yeah, if you guys really quick can give, what will you bring to the marriage to make it hard for me?
	It's the same thing.
	From their worldview they're correct.
	From their worldview they're talking about telos.
	So they're saying that there's a purpose for marriage and they don't believe that marriage outside of purpose.
	So that makes sense to me.
	I can at least I can reconcile that, yeah.
	But what I can't reconcile is when I ask, okay, but they are secularists, so from their purpose, their purpose is only whatever the fuck they think it is right, whatever they think their purpose is or what they think it is.
	Yeah, I mean, let's say you're atheist right, and you're saying oh, I don't have no purpose to get married, then don't get married.
	I don't have nothing against you not getting married.
	You don't believe.
	Yeah right right, but that's not the criticism right, I agree with you, but that's not really the criticism yeah, so the criticism would be this would be to say, can you provide an argument to an atheist, from the perspective of an atheist, as to why they should get married?
	No, there's no evidence, there's no factual base reason why a atheist should get married if they choose that they don't want to, based off of love.
	There's actually no argument to debunk someone's ideology of that.
	I have a question when it comes to masculinity.
	I'm like I kind of don't know where i'm going with this, but I it came to me where okay, let's say for marriage right, if we want to restore masculinity, healthy masculinity, because a lot of men are masculine, women are in the masculine, more men are in the feminine, whatever it is, do we think that by, let's say, the purpose of Marriage bringing that old school ideology of man and woman?
	a man is the provider, the woman is the nurture at home.
	Would that help restore masculinity?
	Would that be something that if you take it more seriously, we can kind of like change the generations as you're coming because now you're the man is playing the role of the protector, the provider, the husband, as opposed to just the boyfriend because it's a completely different title, I feel like.
	Yeah, it is.
	I agree with you.
	So I feel like in restoring masculinity, that can be a, you know, where you're playing the role model of, hey, protector, provider.
	And I do have to read this chat.
	This came in like, sorry, it took us so long to get to this.
	Techno Trooper, Think for the Hundred Men.
	Statistics have revealed alarming trends.
	More girls are self-harming, suffering from depression, and experiencing rising rates of obesity.
	How significant do you think the role of social media is in these issues, and what solutions can you brainstorm to address them?
	Yeah, definitely.
	I mean, social media, massive impact, not just on women's mental health, but also on men's, although this is perhaps more pronounced in women.
	And I think the solution is that we ban social media.
	Just kidding.
	But maybe ban social media for everyone under 18.
	That could work.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	I agree with that 100%.
	Do you disagree?
	I think, first off, if you know, if I have kids, bro, they don't get a smartphone until they're 18.
	The fact that people are working to WAP during lockdown, that to me is like 13-year-olds, like you should not even know what that song is.
	That's just ridiculous.
	No.
	Parental guys need to be a lot more stricter.
	100%.
	Techno Trooper, thank you, man.
	Sorry, it took us a while to, I came in like two hours ago.
	We do prioritize our messages via Streamlabs, streamlabs.com/slash whatever.
	We tend to get to those first.
	But thank you for the super chat, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Where were we?
	I was asking you a question.
	Do you think it in marriage, do you think that would help restore masculinity by being a role model of being a protector and provider and bringing it back to, you know, what initially it was where in the 50s where it's like woman stays at home, man is a provider.
	So like bringing that back, the polarity of, I don't know, just changing, I guess, bringing more masculinity back.
	I feel like as a, when you say husband, that is that is a very strong, like yeah, there's a lot of, there's a lot of problems with that.
	Like I would agree, I would agree with you in principle.
	So in the principle of what you're saying is it's going to bring more masculine energy and it's going to give kind of better core values to have man at home with the wife raising the kids, right?
	That seems to make a lot of sense.
	We could look to other times where this experiment worked really well, right?
	But I'm sorry, did you just need to interject right this second while we're having the conversation?
	Did you just have to?
	No, it's just on the screen.
	It's not marriage.
	That's okay.
	Anyway, so the problem is that you had a lot of laws, right?
	You had a lot of laws and you had an entirely different culture which would enable this to happen.
	Right now, if you have no fault divorce and you have incentivizations for women to get divorced, leave their family, leave it broken, I don't really understand in modernity why men would want to clamor towards that.
	Seems like it's a really bad choice for most men to make in modernity.
	So maybe if you could change the laws to go along with it and change the conditions to go along with it, then yeah.
	But just having children in a home that's almost assured to be broken, that doesn't make a lot of sense, right?
	I agree.
	I do have to move things on a little bit from the marriage conversation, but before we get into some more of our pre-show notes, we have quite a bit to cover tonight.
	Does anybody have any disagreements that they've heard from previous shows?
	Maybe you've seen a clip of Andrew, maybe you've seen a clip of me.
	Anything you disagree on that you've heard?
	I have a disagreement.
	What you got for us?
	I don't know if this is a position that you actually hold or if it's a position that you hold more for the sake of the argument, but I don't agree that women should get drafted.
	So, but that's my only disagreement.
	Okay.
	Do you believe in equality?
	Like how it is today?
	No, just believe in the principle of equality.
	No.
	You don't.
	Okay.
	Like, I'm not a feminist.
	I'm not a feminist.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So, what types of things would you like to see more unequal in society?
	Well, this is kind of a hot take, but I really don't think that women should be in politics.
	And I really think that our country wouldn't be such a dumpster fire if women couldn't vote.
	Okay, so if it's if so, if what you're doing is you're creating the regulation of saying that women don't have to be drafted, but they also can't hold political power.
	I don't, neither myself.
	Well, I wouldn't.
	I can't speak for Brian, but I have no objections to that.
	Right.
	I think I, you know, I think that women should be able to vote.
	That's insane.
	That's insane.
	Well, but I just think the logic of it.
	So all I'm talking about is whether or not it's logically tracks that if your position is I don't want women to be drafted, but men should be drafted, and I believe in equality, that that's a position that doesn't make any sense.
	But if it is your position instead, no, I don't want women to be drafted, but in lieu of that, I'm going to make sure they have no political power.
	So therefore, men get political power, but they must be drafted.
	That makes sense to me.
	So whether or not you agree that that should happen, it's still not a position that I think is illogical.
	Can I say something?
	Go ahead.
	So let's take time to go back in the day.
	Let's go to history now.
	So there was a time when women couldn't vote.
	There was a time where there was 1800s where we were treated as slaves.
	When men have the upper hand, property property.
	We were treated as slaves.
	But then on top of that, one of the first people to even discover space and how a rocket could go up to space is a woman.
	Women have intellect.
	When a man has a wife, she has intellect to guide him in which way he should go.
	Not every woman is a slut or whatever you want to call her, an idiot.
	You're basically making a point that a woman doesn't have, she's not smart enough to be involved to see who should guide her country.
	And I feel like that's like saying that that's not right.
	Should women be drafted?
	I have no idea.
	If they want to.
	Hold on.
	Oh, my God.
	Do you know what a draft is?
	Yeah, it's to go to the army.
	You literally said if they want to.
	If they pick you to go to the water, it's going to the war in the army.
	They pick you to go.
	My apologies.
	They have no choice to go.
	She's saying they want to be in the army.
	That's what she was saying.
	But we are not physically equal if you think they want to be.
	That's not true.
	So I can do what you can do?
	Not necessarily.
	Yeah, yeah, but when it comes to physical.
	I think that what you're saying is fine.
	I don't have an issue with what you're saying.
	Okay, but maybe we can back it up a little bit so that we can see if we can determine if what you're saying makes sense or it kind of doesn't make sense.
	I understand.
	Oh, sorry, go ahead.
	So you are an Islamicist, correct?
	I'm a Muslim.
	That's what is Islamicist.
	That's not even a word.
	Well, I don't know.
	Well, I'm talking about women.
	I'm talking about women that are not.
	I mean, it is a word, but I'm not talking about religion.
	So if you're a Muslim.
	I'm sorry, but can you name the Muslim nation where they have instituted their laws that women are voting?
	Egypt.
	What are you talking about?
	Women vote in the country.
	Is that under Muslim law or is that under parliamentary law?
	Are you talking about Sharia law?
	Sharia law was removed from the law.
	One at a time.
	I can't understand both at one time.
	Sharia law was removed from Saudi Arabia like in what 2016?
	I'm not so sure.
	It can drive women to vote.
	The question is: can you name a country that is under Sharia law, which is Muslim law, where women are allowed to vote?
	I don't know.
	I'm not aware of this knowledge.
	Lebanon, what's it called?
	Jordan.
	They can also be aware of that.
	Jordan women can vote under Sharia law.
	They're not under.
	First of all, Sharia law is like, it's not Islam.
	It's not Muslim.
	Islam is believing in one God and believing that Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessing be upon him, is the last prophet.
	That is what Islam is.
	So all the other stuff you're talking about is politics and it's not to do with the religion directly.
	What I'm talking about, I don't really have anything to say about the draft.
	I don't know too much about Army stuff, but all I know is that women should be able to vote because when the time of frame, when there wasn't, women weren't able to vote, how were we treated as women?
	Terribly, terrible.
	How are we treated?
	Terribly.
	Give me the actual evidence of how women were treated back in the middle of the day.
	I would like to finish.
	It just doesn't make sense.
	Why would you want to be treated that way?
	Yeah, I'm going to answer your question.
	We were treated like objects.
	So I don't know if you want to get to the super chat first, but I would like to finish the exchange.
	Thank you, Gerald.
	So let's move back.
	First, you say in the 1800s, women couldn't vote.
	That's true, but neither could men.
	So I don't know how that is somehow great for you to make that point because for most of human history, neither women nor men could vote, right?
	Only elites, only elites and property owners.
	For instance, the Republic of the United States, a republic, it was not set up for universal suffrage.
	Most men couldn't vote, and women couldn't vote.
	And women only got the vote shortly after men got the vote, very shortly after men got the vote.
	So this was very, very close together.
	Here's another interesting little tidbit for you.
	Every place where women got to vote on whether or not they wanted to vote, they voted no.
	They always voted that they didn't want the right to vote.
	Do you know why?
	It's because they didn't want to get drafted and they didn't want to have to take on parliamentary duties compelled against their will.
	That's why.
	So it makes a lot of sense if men are to be afraid of the country.
	So you're saying in order for me to have the right to speak up and choose who I want as my president in the place that I live in, I have to go in the war and fight.
	Even though I'm not.
	I'm not saying you have to.
	I'm just asking for the potential of it.
	So here's what I mean by this.
	I'll explain it so that you understand.
	I'm just asking for the potentiality.
	Meaning, if there is some threat to the United States that and all men are going to be compelled, potentially, to go and thwart that threat, then I think that you also should be compelled to go thwart that threat.
	Or why should you be allowed to vote?
	You should not have a stake, in other words, to start wars with other countries because you're women, but then not have to fight them because you're women.
	How am I starting a war?
	By voting president, who's president?
	Yes, if you vote, you're voting in politicians.
	And are you saying politicians don't start wars?
	I mean, yes, they do, but I don't think that I believe that women are not.
	I think that you can vote for somebody who can then start a war, which you will never have to go fight in.
	That's not true because if I decide myself, if I go to the army and I train my body to be like a Jesus Christ, then yeah, I'll go join the war.
	That's an argument.
	I don't have a problem with that.
	I just feel like you guys are debunking the woman's mind and saying she just because she doesn't have the physical fit.
	Go ahead.
	Hold on.
	Okay.
	A couple things here because Andrew raised a good point.
	You countered by saying it was 100 years.
	So, when it comes to the right to vote, only 50 years passed between the ratification of the 15th Amendment, which gave all men the right to vote in 1870 and the 19th Amendment, which was the woman's vote in 1920.
	So, only 50 years in America that all men could vote, that women could not.
	Nick, pull it up.
	Okay, countries with universal right to vote.
	So, the brown is no universal right to vote.
	So, this means like men and women.
	The light blue is universal right to vote for only men.
	The other blue is universal right to vote for men and women.
	And this is, is this for the world?
	Did they just sort of aggregate data?
	That is universal right, yeah.
	Aggregate data.
	So, this trope that there's like long stretches of human history where men just had all this power and women didn't.
	Most men couldn't vote, most women couldn't vote.
	Men, if they wanted to vote, they had to go and die and fight in wars for their country.
	So, their rights.
	No, they still weren't allowed to vote even then.
	That is true.
	But I'm talking like for the short period of time that men did have the right to vote and women didn't.
	Even that was localized for most of us.
	Why do you want to revoke our rights as a woman in this country?
	Let me just say something.
	I was trying to say, let me say something.
	I was just trying to say that.
	I was just trying to say, I don't have anything to say about the draft because I'm not going to have enough knowledge.
	But I'm saying.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Let me address your point and then we'll get into your second question.
	Okay, go ahead.
	No problem.
	So, you say, why do you want to take away women's right to X?
	Okay.
	I think that this is a valid question.
	And so, I'm going to once again reiterate this argument.
	If there is the potential that all men in the United States can be drafted and sent into conflict because they all mandatorily mandatory that they have to register for the draft, period, it's mandatory.
	Then, I think if that is true, they deserve the stake to be able to elect politicians who have the potential to start wars.
	And women who do not have to go fight those wars should not be able to elect politicians who then can start a war that they will not have to fight in.
	So, if you make this concession, yes, I think women should be mandatorily drafted, then fine.
	Then we can just do that.
	Okay, so when men were drafted into World War I and World War II, what were the women doing?
	You're acting like they didn't do anything.
	They were taking care of the country.
	They were going to war.
	They weren't dying.
	They weren't wrong for you.
	Yeah, but they were taking care of their car.
	Yeah, there was something for you.
	There was something for you when you come back home.
	Like, they have your kids.
	They have a responsibility to gender roles.
	Hold on.
	Let me.
	Okay, I'll just come in really quick on this.
	Who do you think is the primary victim of war, men or women?
	I think men suffer more.
	Men suffer more, but women, women have a duty and they have a role and they have a value.
	Okay.
	And during the times of war.
	What's your answer?
	It's all about perception.
	Do you feel like losing your life in this life, do you feel like that's the worst thing that could happen to you?
	To me, I don't think that because of my religious beliefs.
	You can get drafted and be quiet about it.
	What I'm trying to say is it's all about perception.
	She's saying that a woman is not suffering as bad as a man because he's dying.
	No, he's dying for his country.
	That's an honor.
	A woman, she's there to take care of the kid.
	She has to work.
	She'll take care of all these things when she don't have no man in nursing.
	Agriculture, nursing, sickness, nursing, going into the war, helping the people get better.
	Like, there's so many things a woman has to do, and you guys are disregarding that.
	But it doesn't deny it.
	I am disregarding that.
	No, Hang on, I am disregarding it.
	I absolutely am disregarding it.
	You're not going to sit here and say that women sacrifice more when it comes to war than men.
	I'm not saying that.
	I never said that.
	Yes, I am going to disregard women's wartime masses.
	Of course, I'm going to fucking say that.
	I'm actually happy to get into your argument.
	I think that, again, you made at least a counter-argument.
	And so I do want to get into it because it is a counter-argument.
	My whole point is not even about the dang war.
	I even just said that in the beginning.
	The point is about women being not.
	Let me repeat your position back to you so that you know that I know what it is.
	Okay.
	Your position is: women are at home and they're sacrificing even during wartime.
	They're keeping the fires burning.
	They're keeping the houses warm.
	They're keeping the kids fed.
	There is a form of sacrifice that women are doing.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Am I wrong, or is that your argument?
	Yeah, they're right.
	Okay, great.
	Then I would like to respond to the argument.
	Okay, so while I will grant that this is true, you're not compelled to do so.
	Meaning, there's no draft making you take care of the home front.
	There's no draft making you take care of these things.
	There's no draft making sure that even at home, you're following domestic duties to make it better for men when they get back.
	You're still not compelled.
	And because of that, you will always face a lesser consequence than men for a war, which means you would have more incentive to elect politicians who could start one.
	So you're saying that men who are sick or disabled, they shouldn't have the right to vote either because they're sick and disabled, they can't fight.
	My argument is that the potential, as long as the potential exists, every man can be compelled.
	Every man can be compelled into the armed services, regardless of disability.
	They could be a fucking vegetable, and the military can draft them legally.
	The military can come in and draft their asses legally because they are compelled to go into service.
	Women are not.
	Because that potential exists, they're going to be far more responsible when it comes to electing politicians who won't start wars because they have to go fucking fight them.
	And here at home, the counterargument is, but the women will be home taking care of the fires.
	Maybe, but they're not compelled to do so.
	And since they're not compelled to do so, there's no reason to do that.
	So what do you want to do?
	Do you want to even do that?
	You want to start?
	You think, wait, what do you mean women are not compelled to?
	You think that they don't love their country just as men?
	You think that a woman can't love her country?
	They love their country just as much as men.
	Why aren't they out there saying that's working under roles?
	So you're saying, well, if a woman loves her family just as much as a man, then why can't she pick up the gun and save us from getting robbed?
	No, what I'm saying to you is that if the man is going to be a bad person.
	Let me respond to your argument.
	I'm saying to you that if the man is the one who you expect to pick up the gun and defend you from the robber who's breaking in, he should get the big fucking piece of chicken, shouldn't he?
	He already does.
	Yeah, and the reason he does is because the expectation is that he does that for you.
	So he gets something additional that you don't get.
	That's how that works.
	You already treat it that way because of, you know, gender roles.
	Okay, so who do you think should get more respect?
	The mother or the father?
	Who should get more respect?
	The mother or the father?
	Well, they're respected in different ways.
	But who should have been trying to save either mother or father?
	Yeah, when you're talking about.
	Stop, stop.
	I'm going to try to all I'm trying to do is understand the question first before I answer it.
	When you say more in this instance, are you saying?
	Okay, you don't want me to get clarification?
	No, I just apologize.
	I'm waiting for your answer.
	Yeah, I know, but I need you to clarify a point first so I can answer.
	Right.
	When you say the word more in this instance, are you saying that kids should respect dad more than mom?
	Are you saying love more matters more?
	Are you saying it's a combination of these things?
	It literally matters more.
	If you had to save a mother or a father before falling down a cliff, who matters more to say?
	You're asking him like three different questions.
	It's the same question.
	It's completely different.
	Okay, so I'll start with the one I just heard, the falling down the cliff.
	So I personally would likely save the woman, but not because she matters to society more, but because there's an obligatory duty under Christian ethics to do that first.
	That's why.
	Okay, so now you're acknowledging the power of a woman.
	You're acknowledging that women have value in that.
	No, I'm acknowledging the divine command.
	As a man, but we have value and we have power and we have edge.
	They didn't say you don't have value.
	They just said your value is not in parliamentary politics.
	In fact, you're claiming your value is not in parliamentary politics.
	You're claiming your value is in a support role at home, where you're sewing up the fucking socks and cutting the wheels and keeping the home fires warm and not out there fighting the wars.
	So if that's what your duty is, if that's where your place is, then why the fuck are you in parliamentary politics voting to send a men to war?
	That doesn't make any sense.
	If I have a service to this world, if I have a talent, if I have the knowledge to help this world, I, as a woman, will put my talent to use.
	Yeah, but you're talking about gender roles.
	Why do you need the right to vote to do that?
	No, it's all coming down to the same thing.
	It's all coming down to a man being drafted into the war, and they're saying women shouldn't vote because men can have a voice right now.
	It is.
	I agree with the point where it's like, if, okay, Iran, obviously, we women have such less freedoms and voice and whatever it is.
	I get it.
	But at the age of 18, my brother, or 16, if you don't leave the country, my brother will get drafted.
	I'm safe.
	My brother is not.
	My brother can never go back to Iran because he will get drafted and has to go to war.
	So for me, I agree with that.
	Where if you want to talk about gender roles, then yes, there has to be like an incentive.
	Like Andrew's talking about that, it has to be a bigger thing for the man versus the woman.
	I don't, I want to bring back the gender roles.
	I want to be at home.
	I want to be the nurture.
	I want, yes, you can have value.
	You can add to society.
	It's nobody's saying that.
	But like, I want people to have women and men have equal, but I'm not equal to a man.
	So if they need to have more rights, more voice into things, then yes, because I'm not going to be able to fulfill the things that men do.
	I'm not going to go to the bathroom.
	So you believe that you shouldn't vote.
	You believe that you shouldn't.
	No, I can vote.
	But if it comes to vote.
	No, but he's saying that we shouldn't be able to vote because we're not being drafted.
	When it comes to the politics.
	Yeah, there's a part of it that if it's the politics of war, if we're going to bring back, if we said earlier, if we're going to change things and bring the man feminine roles, bring back the masculinity.
	Okay, if we're going to change things, then yes, there should be a change if we're going to bring the more masculine.
	If I want to be a stay-home wife, then yes, the man, being the masculine, he should have a higher voice.
	So you're saying it's Islam.
	Like when it comes to, we are coming from a place that my dad is the head of the household in Iran.
	That's how I was raised.
	My dad said, whatever my dad says, goes.
	So it's for me, I agree with them because it's like, if we're going to change the system, if there's a change, if the masculinity wants to come back and we want to be in our feminine role, no one's saying they value us.
	It's just saying we want to be in our feminine role.
	So then there has to be a change in the menu.
	And the men have higher.
	No, somebody gave you a right.
	Hey, this is a golden ticket.
	It's your right to speak.
	She's over here trying to take it back.
	Like, no, you can't.
	We don't want to speak.
	Why?
	It's saying, like, if you're politics, submissive slave.
	No, no, it's not a.
	See, that's the thing.
	That's the triggers of being submissive.
	The being submissive slave, that doesn't mean that's that's because you're taking away a woman's power.
	Doesn't Islam literally mean submission?
	Yes.
	And that's, and submission is not a bad thing.
	Submitting is a bad person.
	Well, it's not a submissive slave.
	It's like that from a woman to a man, not from a woman to her.
	Well, I don't know what that is.
	No, no, a woman, that is an honor when you in Islam.
	Smitting is not even in Islam, as it is an honor when a woman decides that she wants to submit to her husband.
	Okay, so don't say it's a submissive slave and it's about talking about taking away your power, which you just said.
	But you're going to change.
	I found your tag here.
	You stopped a voice, but you have a voice.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Let me make this quote real quick.
	This comes from your guy that you brought up, Maximus Decimus Mauritius.
	And he says, when death comes and smiles at you, all you can do is smile back.
	Right?
	That's his quote.
	Would you agree with that quote from Maximus Decimus Mauritius?
	Yes, I agree.
	I just said that during the war thing.
	I literally just said that.
	Death is not a good thing.
	But do you think women are on the front lines of the battlefield smiling back at death?
	Yes, because if you're fighting for jihad, jihad is an honorable death.
	So, you're saying you're fighting for your country, you're fighting for justice, you're fighting for your peace in this life, and you die, that's the most honorable death.
	Yeah, but women are not.
	Okay, we're talking.
	I don't know if we're talking about hypothetically or what it is.
	Because the question that I addressed earlier: if we're going to change things, then yes, I want men to have the say and more control in politics because they do put their lives on the line, period.
	That's the thing.
	No one's saying don't vote.
	You can vote on different things.
	I didn't disagree with that.
	Yeah, I didn't disagree with that.
	My point is saying my whole point, since I started speaking, was women should be able to vote.
	They should be able to vote, but not into politics.
	That was pertaining to war.
	I do have to move it on a little bit here.
	Desert Joe, keeping this in the context of the U.S. and what is currently the law in the books, all men are required to register for selective service draft at age 18 in order to get the right to vote.
	Women are not.
	So, to bring it back to your original thing, you had a disagreement.
	You said that you disagree with me that I think women should be drafted.
	Unlike you, I think women should be able to vote.
	And so, but with that should come a form of equality between men and women, and that equality would manifest itself as women after over 100 years having the right to vote, but without any corresponding responsibility in the same way that men had a corresponding responsibility for them to secure, for men to secure their right to vote.
	Yeah, women should be subject to the draft because we can talk about, frankly, I think it's going to be much more politically achievable to make women subject to forced military conscription than it will be to walk back women's right to vote.
	So, just pragmatically speaking, we need to move towards what feminists have been fighting for: equality.
	Y'all can be drafted too.
	Although, even then, even in the case where you were drafted, it still wouldn't be fair for a myriad of reasons.
	And even if they, I think I saw something how what they're currently arguing, I guess, in the government, is they are thinking about drafting women, but they would not be drafted into any frontline combat.
	And even if they were drafted into frontline combat, women always have an out, whether they're volunteer or whether they were drafted.
	What you see happening a lot with military women who are volunteers before they're about to be shipped out or whatever, they just get pregnant.
	And if you get pregnant, that's a they don't know the exact procedures, but you would not be you would not be deployed, and they might just give you an honorable discharge or something, medical discharge.
	I'm not entirely sure.
	But yeah, you can always, at the end of the day, as a woman, you can always kind of avoid it.
	So, see, I think that just instituting the women's draft for equality, I would be behind that and allow voting to continue because I do believe 100% that were a general draft instituted and women actually feared that they themselves would be drafted, their voting patterns would greatly change, and we'd never see a Democrat in office again for the rest of our lives.
	That's what I think.
	Absolutely, because they would at that point have to face the consequences of whatever they're voting for and a thing which women often don't face, consequences for the things that they do.
	So, I would actually like to see women held to account.
	And I think that if there was a general draft, and I would even go further with the law and say for every man drafted in a war, a woman equally also must be drafted.
	So, in this case, I think that you would, it's complete equality, you would share the burden across the board, and what we'd end up with is much more responsible voting patterns from women.
	All right, well, you sit down for nine months and have the baby in your stomach.
	Yeah, you spend 20 years of your life raising them like I did.
	My husband works way harder than I do.
	I'm just saying, what's that argument?
	Do you think I haven't been in the room many, many times watching the painstaking agony that women go through for two fucking days?
	Try it for 20 years.
	Try going in the most horrific things you can ever imagine for 20 fucking years, breaking your body down for years and years and years.
	And I was supposed to kiss your ass because for two days you were in a little bit of agony.
	Fuck that shit.
	Okay, all right.
	I'm done with this discussion.
	Would you rather, let me just, I'm just curious.
	Would you rather be on the front for six months or go through pregnancy?
	I'd rather go through pregnancy.
	Okay.
	Good alcohol.
	And that's what I was blessed with in this life to give life.
	okay so then what would you rather do what would you rather do what What front?
	World War I?
	I'll be pregnant.
	Wait.
	Bro, none of it's crazy because I think like a lot of you don't even have like you don't even have a base understanding of warfare at all.
	You don't even know when World War I is.
	You don't even know when World War II is.
	You don't know the absolute barbarism that occurred during these just brutal military conflicts.
	And so if a woman's never even heard of trench foot, she's never even heard of chemical, like chemical weapons, mustard gas, for example.
	Like these are really male-exclusive sufferings that have occurred through history.
	I can't think of like women who got trench foot.
	You guys probably don't even know what trench foot is.
	You don't know what, like if you look at the just absolute catastrophe of warfare, all of like the vast majority of these absolutely devastating outcomes almost exclusively impact men.
	But then why do you just don't know?
	Why are you guys in the middle of the moment?
	You guys are oblivious and ignorant to like the absolute like insanity that has to be.
	How can I respect you as a man if you don't want to get up and fight the war?
	That's not what I want to do as a masculine man.
	I respect you as a woman who will vote to send people off to a war but still wants to vote.
	As somebody who is not a woman how can you vote to send men off to war?
	Because I'm having completely irresponsible not to respond.
	And two, I have the ability and the like the right to give children, to give life, to add to this population.
	Can men do that?
	No.
	Yes.
	You need men's, yeah, stop.
	You need men's genetic material to create life.
	It's not unilateral.
	You don't whimsically come up with a child in your brain and you're pregnant.
	It requires male genetic material called sperm.
	And after the, hang on, after the sperm is injected inside of your womb, then the egg is fertilized.
	Then there's life.
	This is not unilateral.
	This is not something, you don't just walk around and go, well, I'm going to reproduce today.
	Boom.
	That's not how it works.
	You need male genetic material.
	It's totally and completely irresponsible for women to say, I demand the right to vote so that I have a say-so, when you could vote in politicians who send in people to wars, which you then will not have to fight.
	That's not only fundamentally unfair and undemocratic, but it's also monstrous.
	It's monstrous to make the claim that a section of society who claims that they are equal and free can then use a different subset of society to go fight their wars on their behalf.
	That's crazy talk.
	Burmese Mountain Tiger, thank you for the 10 gifted subs and thank you for the big 50 gifted subs.
	Really good to see you back in the chat, man.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	By the way, Andrew just cooked.
	That was beautiful, Andrew.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	That was a great one.
	Burmese Mountain Tiger.
	Good to see you in the chat, man.
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	Appreciate it.
	Thank you for all the gifted subs, man.
	You're a legend.
	Anyways, I do got to move it on a little bit here from the draft.
	Why don't we get it?
	By the way, that was a great exchange.
	You know, I was going to say something.
	I did actually enjoy the fact that they had arguments.
	That's rare on the show.
	You had arguments.
	Congratulations.
	Hats off to you.
	I wasn't wearing one, but if I was, hats off because you actually had arguments and I do appreciate that.
	There you go.
	You know, I think mine comes from being in the middle of Iran and Iraq war and you actually hear the bombs going off and like the fear of having people, brothers, family being drafted.
	I think that's where it is.
	Like I would be for when men have more control if they're being drafted because when you're in that when you hear the damages, when you hear the war, when you hear the bombs going over your head, and you have to run for safety, go to a baseline.
	It's a completely different perspective that comes from it where it's like, I would never want to be, I would never want to be in the front lines.
	So for me, if it's like, if they're going to be in the front lines, then yeah, I want them to have more power in the decision making of where that war is going to go and what's not going to happen.
	Okay, so moving things on, I think going back to one of the disagreements, going to Jessica here, you, I think in your initial message, excuse me, you said that Brian said plastic surgery is a mental illness and you wanted to come have a conversation about that.
	You work in a cosmetics office or plastic surgeon's office.
	So my view is generally speaking, women who, and I suppose men too, who elect to get purely cosmetic surgery, I do think it pretty strongly correlates to mental illness.
	You seem to disagree.
	I'm happy to have a conversation about it.
	Well, I guess, so purely cosmetic, there's two different reasons people get plastic surgery.
	One is vanity, and they actually call it Snapchat dysphoria, where people are basically trying to get surgery to look like the Snapchat version of themselves.
	So in that case, yes, I would agree with you just because those people are nightmares to deal with.
	But, you know, obviously my office, we're very unique.
	We deal with mostly men, which we don't even do Botox there.
	Most plastic surgery are all women and boobs and everything.
	But I don't know if you guys know what gynecomastia is.
	So it is plastic surgery.
	It is considered cosmetic.
	You know, it's not covered under insurance unless you need a full chest lift.
	Is this for the T stuff?
	Gynecomastia.
	No.
	No, it can be, because a lot of guys, they associate it with being on testosterone, which it can.
	But we do a lot of teenagers.
	We do a lot of 12-year-olds.
	No, I mean the T in LGBT.
	Oh, no, we don't do that.
	We don't do any gender.
	Yes.
	No, we don't.
	I think unless they've changed it, I think that the surgeons have to have special insurance if they do gender affirming care.
	We don't do that.
	Gynecomastia is basically enlarged male breasts.
	So we'll do it on teenagers, like little boys that are literally like so little body fat and then they have puffy nipples or like almost be cut breasts.
	And it's, I mean, the stuff that I see, that's why when I saw the mental illness, I see boys literally taping their chest with duct tape just so they don't get bullied or made fun of, you know, it's a.
	But that does have a lot to do with estrogen, testosterone, this type of thing.
	It does.
	Yeah, it could be genetic.
	It can be hormones.
	I mean, you can get it from steroid use.
	You know, obviously, like the teenagers aren't on steroids.
	But so what, okay, so what, this is typically gynecomastia.
	It's, is the right word anormal?
	Yeah.
	It's not.
	It is abnormal.
	It is not the normal manifestation of breast tissue in men.
	No, and most men do have some breast tissue, but this is an enlarged, so it's literally like a mask.
	And it can stem from a medical problem.
	Yeah, well, I mean...
	Such as...
	Well, it's hormonal imbalance, genetics.
	Hormonal imbalance.
	It can be caused by medication.
	Yeah, and this hormonal imbalance is causing them to look away that is not typical of men.
	Yeah, and I mean, the stuff that we hear, it's so sad.
	I mean, these kids get called like bitch tits.
	I mean, this stuff is really, really awful, but I've seen a different side of how it really affects men, especially when it comes to data.
	Well, wouldn't you liken this to like a burn victim or something like this if somebody was a burn victim?
	I mean, Brian's been pretty clear that he thinks that cosmetic surgery, which is done for the purpose of reintroducing normalcy rather than some type of bump up into a different classification, is fine.
	I mean, he's basically, that's been his position every single time I've heard him lay it down, in fact.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	The clip I saw, it just said plastic surgery is a mental illness, and I was like, not the type, because yeah, well, I think he's talking about lip filler, butt lifts, things like this, which are designed specifically to be high-risk beauty enhancements, not a way.
	So, like, for instance, there are women who are born with a smaller breast than their other breasts, right?
	This is something that's fairly common.
	I don't think anybody, anybody, even people who are against plastic surgery, would be against taking care of that issue for them.
	That's not problematic.
	I don't think that that's a fair way to phrase it.
	He's talking specifically about people who are using cosmetic surgery in order to enhance themselves into what look like plastic monsters.
	Yeah, I mean, like I said, we don't do Botox or fillers.
	So I guess I work in a very unique plastic surgery setting.
	I guess what I'm saying is there's two sides to it, you know, for cosmetic.
	I think it's affecting you.
	If you're trying to become something that you're not, because you're just so insecure, sure.
	Obviously, there's something mentally going on.
	But if there's something wrong with you and you're trying to correct something that's abnormal, I don't see a problem with it.
	Right.
	So, yeah, I mean, when it comes to certain procedures, I don't really have any objections to certain procedures.
	I think the genesis of plastic surgery actually originated, I think, with even men who went to war and they had severe deformities in their face.
	They got a bullet to the face, shrapnel, shell to the face.
	And so their faces were totally deformed.
	And even if there wasn't necessarily, it wasn't necessarily causing some sort of medical issue.
	Perhaps they could breathe fine, but their face was severely deformed.
	It made it difficult for them to maneuver through society.
	They were looked at, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
	Even if it was cosmetic in that sense, it was bringing them back to normal or as close to normal as possible.
	Obviously, plastic surgery has evolved quite a bit, you know, over the years.
	Well, let me ask you a question, if you don't mind, Brian, because I'd like to get clarification on this from you, too.
	Let's say that there was a big rally that a guy was at, and a projectile whizzed by his head at lightning speed and put a hole in the side of his face, but a small one.
	Okay.
	And then he, being the future president of the United States, pumped his hand up and went, yeah.
	And there was a plastic surgeon on scene who could tape it together real quick and make it look like no scar, no damage, nothing like that.
	You wouldn't be against that, right?
	No, I would not be against that.
	No, because there was an injury, you know, let's say his ear was like flopping off.
	You know, I think.
	And actually, wouldn't just any surgeon be able to just sew it back together?
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, but would you mind if there was some type of like special cosmetic surgeon who came in to make sure that there was very little or limited scarring?
	Because this person happens, as the future president of the United States, to be a prominent politician.
	Would you have even a problem with that?
	Yeah, no objections there.
	My primary objections tend to be these purely, purely vanity cosmetic procedures: BBL, lip filler, lipo, fake breasts, flabioplasty, etc.
	As somebody who's had, obviously my boobs in.
	Yeah.
	If I had to do it again, I definitely wouldn't have because I went through so much that I think it caused more trauma than it did because for me, it was I was doing more fitness shoots, and all I wanted-I already had big breasts to begin with.
	And all I wanted was like a little bit of side boob, maybe an upper fuller.
	And it, like, I've had probably four or five surgeries, and I'm still not happy.
	I had it led into depression.
	I was celibate for five years because I was like, I don't want to date.
	Like, so that's how Jess and I actually met.
	She was my nurse like eight years ago.
	And how old were you when you got the I was 32 when I first got him, and it was supposed to be a simple.
	My best friend got him, and I wanted him for like 10 years.
	And I was like, you know what?
	Let me just do it.
	And it's funny because I couldn't even come up with the reason when my mom told me as an adult.
	My mom's like, I'm like, oh, I'm going to get my boobs done.
	And he's like, well, you tell your dad.
	I'm like, no, you tell that.
	Like, literally, I felt like a little kid, like, telling my dad, like, well, I want to get my boobs.
	He's like, why?
	I was like, I don't know.
	I just want him.
	And it's, there literally wasn't a reason.
	I didn't need to.
	Went to many doctors.
	They told me actually not to get them done because they said, if you're going to do it, you need a lift and implants because you're going to get, what is it?
	The double bubble, whatever it's called.
	So I got them done.
	I honestly shouldn't have touched them after I got them done the first time, but I was very greedy because I wanted them more natural.
	And then I was like, well, it's not, it's disproportionate to my body.
	Within, I think, eight months, I switched them out, ended up having a hematoma.
	I had blisters everywhere.
	I had to have areola tattoos, had to have like multiple surgeries since then.
	Like one, it's like so much pain because I lift weights at the gym.
	So when I lift, the harder it gets.
	And honestly, to this day, I am still not happy.
	Like I'm just waiting to get to the goal weight that I want, and I may take them out.
	And when girls ask me, I'm like, don't, I'm not the one to ask because like I love the way they look, but I feel like there's a part of me that I lost because I, for example, even like there was a tomboy part of me or fitness where I would do push-ups, pull-ups, all those things.
	I don't really do those anymore because it's just uncomfortable or it's painful.
	So I feel like it's limited me in many ways.
	But I'm, I don't know, I'm maybe an anomaly, but I definitely regret doing it because each time I've done it, I've been more dissatisfied than the time before.
	So, yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, well, Madison back here, her aunt got BBL surgery and she died.
	Yeah.
	What is sepsis or what?
	What happened?
	There's a lot of vascularity.
	But it's just, I mean, my purview is that typically, I mean, for it's probably mental illness.
	What about like a necklift when you're older, and especially for men, because you guys have the button-up shirts and it starts pitching there?
	He's like, I'll wear my sweater, hoodie.
	I got a beard, I'm chilling.
	Don't wear button-ups too much.
	But I think everything in moderation, I do agree the like the camera.
	Wait, so it's uncomfortable.
	Yeah, so if a guy has a button.
	I know women don't have these issues, but the collared shirts on men have no flexibility.
	So, like, a lot of our business guys will get necklifts because when they do this, it has this like overhang and it pinches the skin.
	I mean, if they're like required in their business endeavors, they got to wear a suit and it's like causing pain.
	I suppose I'm fine with that.
	So, it's the excessive.
	But, like, it can get a lot of pain.
	But, let me ask you a question.
	Let me ask you a question.
	For breast implants, is there any scenario where like it's a woman is in pain and she would need breast implants, breast implants to prevent her pain?
	Now, I know there's breast reduction, that's not really what I'm talking about.
	So, they use implants, it depends.
	So they use them for mastectomies after they literally take everything off as a shaper.
	But those are considered.
	So she's had cancer.
	So if I grant that I'm fine with women who've had breast removed for cancer or whatever, if I'm fine with that, but would you agree with me that all the women who are otherwise healthy who just get fake titties, that that's probably for yeah, well, for augmentation, you know, it's like I'm a bigger fan of if it makes you feel confident.
	However, like I actually, personal preference, I love small boobs.
	So I think that's it.
	Don't you have implants yourself?
	I had a reduction.
	Wait.
	So I naturally had really big boobs to start with.
	So at 22, I had a reduction.
	But you have implants?
	I have a very small implant.
	So with reductions, a lot of times they use like, it's basically like this big, and it's a shaper just to keep it there so the tissue doesn't pull.
	Okay.
	Oh, so you had a reduction and then you got implants.
	It's at the same time.
	So they do it.
	It's basically to hold everything.
	I've never heard that.
	Is that pretty common?
	You got big titties.
	I'm going to have a reduction.
	But put some fake titties?
	Is that a thing?
	Well, it's still smaller than significantly what there were.
	It's basically as a shaper more than anything.
	Did you get that for like you had back pain or?
	No, I just hated big boobs, to be honest.
	I wanted small.
	You hate it?
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'm not that tall.
	I haven't heard that one before.
	Okay, that's interesting.
	Okay, well.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I feel like the mental illness part of it, it can become addictive because even with me, it's like the pursuit of perfection.
	That's the part that it can really fuck with you where you're just constantly chasing it.
	I mean, I wasn't mentally ill to begin with.
	I was vain as fuck in that sense, where I wanted bigger boobies.
	But I think it caused more issues than it solved the issues for me.
	Yeah, and I think social media is a big thing.
	So the numbers, the stats right now, obviously I'm in a more male-dominated industry, but the stats right now for plastic surgery are now going into the 20-year-olds.
	It's because of social media that they're altering their minds.
	It's just like, it's kind of, it's sad to me that a generation, multiple generations of women have been sold this lie that in order to be beautiful or sexy or attractive or accepted that they need to undergo dangerous, expensive, and unnecessary cosmetic surgeries.
	Yeah, I think if you feel like you need to, and just coming from the perspective of dealing with patients, if you feel like that's going to solve your problems, like you're, it's not.
	So yeah, like I think if you're just doing it to enhance or better yourself, like I'm okay with it.
	But if somebody is like depressed and they think this is the answer, they're never happy.
	I guess.
	I just think like, I think women are good looking without all that.
	I think actually women who get these procedures make themselves look worse, if I can be honest.
	I think the fake titties look bad, the BBL looks bad, the lipo belly looks bad, the lip filler looks bad.
	What's the other shit that y'all do?
	Botox.
	The lip filler?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Yeah.
	I'm not expert on the Botox shit, but.
	Usually the good work, though, you really can't tell.
	I've never seen like lip filler where you can't tell looking at the side.
	Lip filler alpha.
	If you look at the side profile, there's always this weird fucking indent in the lip that just, it doesn't look right.
	It gives me uncanny valley.
	I think women are honestly destroying their bodies.
	Just from like an aesthetic perspective, I don't think there's certain procedures I'm not a big fan of.
	I will agree with you on filler.
	I don't like filler probably anywhere.
	Yeah.
	I have a question for you.
	Yeah.
	Oh, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Good.
	I just, I know quite a few people who have gone out of the country for these surgeries.
	What's your opinion on that?
	I'm just curious.
	Like out-of-the-country surgeons versus, I mean, obviously it's way cheaper, right?
	I wouldn't do it only because I don't, you know, it's in the case.
	So, with all surgeries, there's risks and benefits.
	And in the case, there are risks, and sometimes it's not the surgeon error, it could just be how you heal.
	If you don't speak the language of the country and you don't know the systems because the medical systems are very different there, you really don't have rights either.
	Like, at least in America, you can sue.
	There's the medical board, there's certain protocols of safety.
	So, I think that's kind of what you're paying for.
	I have seen people get really good work somewhere.
	To me, I wouldn't because what happens if something does go wrong?
	I thought with electives, you can't sue.
	You can if you can prove malpractice.
	Yeah, if there's like botched or malpractice or something, but I don't know.
	I'm a look, I'm a natural body supremacist, okay?
	Natural body supremacy, all you cosmetic people over here.
	I'd rather an A-cup or no boobs.
	I prefer A-cup or no boobs over some fake titties.
	I'll take a little belly fat over the lipo belly.
	Give me a small ass over a BBL, no ass over BBL.
	Can you believe that?
	Can you believe?
	No, but I'll take no ass.
	I'll take pancake ass over BBL ass.
	Give me pancake ass over BBL.
	Uh, uh, uh, small upper lip, no upper lip.
	White girl upper lip, no upper lip over lip fillers.
	Give me that.
	Uh, let's see.
	Basically, any woman with any of these procedures, however, they were before, I prefer them as they were.
	I don't disagree with you.
	I mean, still had the big boobs, and now I have the pain with the big boobs, so it's not as fun.
	Also, like, just from a to make it into a dating perspective, I mean, it already is a dating perspective because it's just like what are you physically attracted to.
	But I think it's actually one, it can, in addition, let's say it's not even an indicator for mental illness, although it could very well be.
	It is an indicator for vanity.
	Like that, you can't argue.
	Of course.
	And so, people who are vain tend to have like a bit more superficial taste.
	So, okay, is she going to be a financial liability in some way?
	She's probably, she's just not even like that.
	We don't need, I wouldn't even mesh there.
	Yeah.
	I wear sweatpants.
	You probably just see dollar signs.
	BBL chicks don't go after guys in sweatpants, okay?
	They don't do it.
	They don't do it.
	There's a mismatch there in terms of vanity.
	I'm trying to think what else.
	Oh, the other thing is it's a financial liability because, like, if I'm, let's say I'm the breadwinner and she has a taste for plastic surgery, over the course of a lifetime, is that an extra $100,000 that I'm going to have to front?
	Because don't you have to get like with breast implants?
	Don't you have to get that redone every 10, 20 years?
	Not necessarily.
	If there's nothing wrong with them, you technically don't now.
	You used to because they would leak.
	You do have to get them checked up, you know, every so often, but they're cohesive gel.
	So again, there's risk to benefits.
	If there's nothing wrong aesthetically, they're not causing pain, there are no leaks, then you're going to assume the risk of surgery and there's not a lot to gain.
	So it's up to the surgeon.
	Word.
	Yeah.
	Oh, and then labia plasty.
	That's a we do not do that.
	That's a dagger in the heart to me.
	Right.
	Nick, pull it up.
	BLM.
	Is that a real popular?
	It's very popular.
	That is where I am.
	It's very popular.
	Labia Matter.
	Hashtag.
	Can you pull up my nonprofit, Nick, please?
	Rude.
	Rude.
	Pull that shit up.
	There we go.
	He's got it.
	Yes.
	Hell yeah.
	Hashtag Big Labia Matter.
	I got nonprofit movement, BLM.
	Andrew's on the board of directors.
	So, yeah.
	I mean, it's not really an.
	I mean, I know it exists.
	I know it's popular, but I always thought it was like for older women.
	Older women.
	No, there's like these girls are like any age.
	They're like insecure about their pussy lips.
	You know, it's crazy.
	That shit's crazy.
	Any girls here insecure?
	I'm just asking, anyone insecure about the Anybody insecure?
	Anyone ever felt insecure about that?
	Sam waxes, so she can probably tell you some stories, you know?
	You're just saying spotlight there.
	I have saved over 100 women.
	Hey, I don't like that kind of language.
	I'm just asking.
	I don't know what it is.
	We're saying big beef.
	Yeah, large labia, Audi, roast beef, wizard sleeve, RBs.
	Wizard sleeve.
	Wizard sleeve.
	I haven't heard that one.
	It hang like wizard sleeve of wizard.
	That's funny.
	That's crazy.
	That's crazy.
	See, I don't like it.
	Like, because I don't think we should shame people.
	I'm not shaming.
	No, I'm just saying.
	I don't think we should shame people for the way that they were born.
	You can't change that shit.
	Also, we shouldn't shame their genitalia.
	Shouldn't shame men.
	Shouldn't shame men.
	If a man's got an average pee-pee or a small pee-pee, you shouldn't shame him.
	No.
	There's a lot of pee-pee shaming.
	A lot of pee-pee shaming.
	There's plenty of love.
	Have you guys sized pee?
	Have you guys shamed?
	I bet you've all here have shamed a pee-pee before.
	No.
	You've all shamed a pee-pee.
	I shamed a hygiene.
	I've never shamed a pee-pee.
	That's good.
	With the hygiene, yeah, that's different.
	But pee-pee is.
	I look at the shit.
	You can't control the size of that.
	I don't think women should be shamed if they, you know, they got a.
	I don't know what to call it.
	You say, don't say rose, so what do you got?
	Just big labia?
	Big labia, sure.
	Audi.
	I like the wizard sleeve girl.
	I've never heard that one.
	It has magical powers.
	It does, bro.
	It's crazy.
	It's crazy out here.
	That's funny.
	Because I'm not an ass guy.
	I'm not a boob guy.
	I'm a labia guy.
	I'm a labia guy.
	Interesting.
	Okay, anyways, moving on.
	Awkward.
	Yo, women.
	I want to dive in.
	How did you find out that you were a labia guy?
	I mean, everybody must wonder this.
	And if you're the labia guy, then what is the initial attraction over?
	What are the things which initially attract you to them?
	Because they're not walking over and going, hey, Brian, take a look at my labia, right?
	Camel toe is my question.
	I'll let you know.
	Camel toe?
	Yeah.
	Do you make sure that to meet them up with the leggings?
	Camel toe.
	You know what?
	I think as revenge, though, women should start sending pussy pics.
	Like, you know how guys send dick pics?
	Women should be like, boom.
	Just like, take a shot, boom.
	Here's.
	No.
	You guys aren't down?
	I mean.
	I think you got reverse.
	Men have been sending dick pics for years.
	I know.
	Nobody wants to.
	I want pussy pics.
	I'm like, I used to pose.
	I'm like, if I used to get DM, I was sort of a blast.
	But don't send me that.
	Don't slide in my D House with no dick pics.
	Thank you, Bernice Tiger, for that.
	Yeah, I would like to know, though.
	Like, how does the initial attraction work?
	What if she doesn't have big labia?
	What are the things?
	What are those physical characteristics?
	I like to say that I only date women with large labia.
	But listen, look, I'll date.
	You know what?
	I'll cut a girl break.
	If she's got an innie, I guess I can date her.
	I'll give her a pass, you know?
	If she's got a good personality.
	There's so many names.
	She's got a good personality on it.
	I mean, my first job was gynecology.
	I never heard these terms anymore.
	We were trying to call it for two years.
	We're a thong bikini and like you won't see anything.
	Innies.
	Innies, out of the bag.
	It seems like normals.
	Is there another, like, is there a bunch of things?
	I think innies are more common.
	I just think a belly buttons.
	So, wait, what's the question, Andrew?
	Yeah, how do you do?
	Okay, okay.
	Well, I'm just wondering, because I've heard this a couple of times and I've never asked.
	Of course.
	And I see it in the whatever chat often.
	If you're really the thing is, you're not a buck guy, you're not a boob guy, none of that, you're a labia guy.
	That's not a thing which you can just detect immediately.
	So what is the other characteristics which draw the attraction in?
	Because it's impossible for you to actually detect the labia until a later date, usually.
	You know what, though?
	I kind of have a radar for it.
	It's crazy.
	do you detect them like because how she was talking earlier about like okay well then which women here have the biggest like No, I'm kidding.
	Brian, I'm just.
	No, it's like I get this intuition, you know.
	I've got like a big labia radar.
	So can you tell who on this table has?
	Yeah, can you tell?
	It would be a degree of impropriety for me to reveal the nature of your guys' pussies on the podcast.
	Y'all crazy.
	If I'm going to say that just accurately.
	I got it.
	Some intuitions.
	But just kidding.
	Okay.
	Yeah, no, it's just like high vibrations.
	Like, it's the vibe.
	It's like the vibration.
	If I knew you were like a big labia man, and that's what I'm doing.
	I'm here for you.
	Am I not good enough?
	You'd feel insecure.
	I would be like, no, I mean, if you're like, if I'm a boob guy, I'm like, so this is a good idea.
	That's how guys feel, though.
	If the guy's average in the package and these girls, whoa, I like a big dick.
	That's how he's going to feel.
	It's just a big dick energy.
	Hang on, hang on.
	They're calling this phenomenon LADAR.
	You have LADAR?
	What is it?
	LADAR.
	LADYARDAR.
	You have LADAR.
	Learning new things every day.
	I'll take it.
	It works.
	LADAR.
	It works.
	It's like Gator, but LADAR.
	Like Gatar, but LADAR.
	Yeah.
	That's true.
	It's great.
	I don't know if you should add that to your resume.
	I do have it.
	I actually do put it on my resume.
	There will be a limited run of 50, whatever podcast special LADAR sweatshirts, only $339.39.
	Only.
	You can just tell, like, when a girl has big labia energy, like, you just know.
	It's like the bigger upper football, though.
	I know there's an upper football.
	It would not be appropriate for me to reveal.
	Is it usually like a physical attraction of some sort, or is it like personality?
	What's that?
	Is it a physical attraction, like based on other parts of their body, or is it more like personality?
	I'm just saying.
	I'm just wondering, like, what big dick energy is?
	Like, big energy.
	It's like a big, big labia energy.
	You just know.
	It's like a vibe.
	Like, you just feel it because of the vibrations.
	Big vibration.
	B-L-D versus B-B-B-E-N-G-E-N-G?
	Anyways, I don't know, whatever.
	I'm just...
	That's funny.
	Yeah.
	Could talk.
	You'd be wondering, just like using your intuition on people.
	Like, oh, yeah, like, they got that.
	Yeah, I'm just going, I'm in the street, like scanning.
	Yeah, I just.
	Yeah, you know.
	What, you don't do that with guys?
	Like, giant horse cock, micro peen.
	You don't do that.
	You don't do that.
	Their shorts are too short.
	You don't do that.
	Come on, you don't do that.
	Sweatpants season.
	You don't do that.
	You don't do that.
	No.
	You never looked at a guy and be like, he's got a horse cock.
	If their shorts are way too short, it's kind of hard not to look.
	That's crazy, bro.
	I'm just saying.
	You didn't look at Desmond back there and be like, that guy's got a horse cock.
	What the?
	Sorry, Desmond.
	Didn't mean to throw you under the bus that got.
	Okay, it's all good.
	Anyways, God damn, why do you guys want to talk about this?
	This is crazy.
	It's your non-profit.
	You rocking on it.
	You have the intuition.
	Anyways, moving on.
	Moving on.
	Moving on.
	Where were we?
	I don't even know.
	Oh, okay.
	Here we go.
	We got a couple chats here.
	Killer of cereal.
	Lizzie, can you read this?
	Good thing.
	Agent Orange, burn pits.
	I can't see.
	Gangrene.
	Thank you.
	Trench foot.
	Trench foot.
	Hypothermia.
	I'm so sorry.
	Nerve agents.
	Traumatic brain injury.
	PTSD, amputation, broken bones.
	Torture and mutilation versus how many stitches does it take after pregnancy.
	I think that's directed at you.
	It just depends.
	And this topic, I'm just like, whatever.
	Not all women require stitches after like the podcast you're on.
	Yeah, whatever.
	Whatever.
	Whatever.
	Kill of cereal plastics make you look older.
	It doesn't keep up with the rest of your aging body.
	The more you have, the worse it looks.
	The older you get, especially with clothes off.
	Kill of cereal, well put.
	I think this is a two-pronged approach here with the plastic surgery shit.
	Men need to shame other men for gassing up women who have plastic surgery.
	And then they also need to shame the women too.
	The issue is the ones with good plastic surgery men don't know that they have plastic surgery.
	It's very minimal tweaks where you still allow wrinkles and still allow to the people who don't.
	I ain't never seen a BBL where I'm like.
	These BBLs are pretty obvious.
	I'll give you a little bit of a.
	Yeah, they're disastrous.
	Lip fillers.
	Fake titties.
	I don't like fillers.
	I'm not a good person.
	I'll give you rhinoplasty.
	Like, rhinoplasty you can't tell typically.
	That changes a whole lot.
	No, well, what I'm saying is like you can't always tell if they've had it.
	Sometimes you can, like, you can tell if the note, like, the tip of the nose is all fucked up.
	Yeah.
	But, like, a lot of times, if they, the surgeon, like, you can't tell.
	Anyways, good talk.
	Good talk, everybody.
	Thank you, Kill of Cereal.
	Appreciate it, bro.
	Let's get into some pre-show notes here.
	Okay, so we have.
	Going back to Jessica, you said one thing I've always found entertaining to ask my girlfriends are what are their hard no hard no's for dating.
	For example, you meet a guy online, they're attractive, successful, everything you'd want on paper.
	But when you meet them, you find out one thing that is a hard no and makes you not want to call them back.
	So why don't we start with you?
	We'll go around the table.
	Burmese mountain tiger.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	Dude, thank you for the gifted 10 subs, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Hope you guys are enjoying the stream over on Twitch.
	Wait, Nick, really quick, why don't you pull it out?
	Twitch.tv slash whatever drops a follow in the prime sub if you have one.
	Guys, it's been, I don't even know when the last time there's been a prime sub.
	I mean, yo, shout out to Burmese for the gifted subs, but boys, I think we need like to test out a prime because like Sergeant Snipes, he sent one in like an hour ago.
	So I need you guys to like, you know, like drop us a follow in a prime sub, boys, because I think Twitch is bugged.
	Oh, there you go, Gian.
	Thank you, bro.
	And Rod and Treats, thank you, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	What's up, Nick?
	Thank you.
	Sorry, whenever I go to Twitch, I go Canadian.
	Great question.
	When they send you the subs or whatever, what does that mean if they're giving you like 10 subs?
	Like, can people, or is it actual people?
	It means they're selling their soul.
	Yep.
	Sorry, that was cringe.
	It's just like a donut.
	It's like a.
	But it's not like actual people can use it.
	It's just like they're just gifting that to you.
	No, they're gifting it to people who are watching.
	So if you're watching the stream on Twitch and there's gifted subs that go out, like people who are watching who aren't subbed will get away, going back to this, so hard nose.
	Hard nose.
	So hard nose, we used to talk about this all the time.
	It's basically a guy looks perfect on paper.
	You know, their photo is good, everything's good.
	Then you go on a date with them.
	Something you find out where you're just like, I absolutely not.
	So mine was cyclist.
	I can never date a cyclist.
	I don't care if they mountain bike.
	I don't care if they ride bikes as a hobby, but I think cyclist is a certain type of personality that's very entitled and don't care about anybody else.
	I commute two hours every day, so I have a thing against cyclists.
	Yeah, cyclist and then Prius drivers.
	That's kind of whoa, damn.
	Okay.
	400 of Prius drivers.
	Shots fire.
	Wait, so anyways, wait, so cyclists?
	Cyclist.
	Why?
	Because they all go in the lane.
	They don't care.
	They don't look behind.
	They are just the most inconsiderate people.
	And I think that is going to transfer over to a lifestyle of just like an entitled little prick.
	And I wouldn't want to date one.
	I think Prius is not more Tesla.
	Josie, doesn't isn't Josie a cyclist?
	I don't know if she's watching right now.
	Josie, she's one of our frequent viewers.
	She's been on the show.
	She's a cyclist.
	We should get you guys to do a debate.
	Yo, teeny sunflower.
	Thank you for the gifted subs.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, what about you?
	Hard no for a guy.
	I'm still, I'm still working on my hard no's.
	One that I'm teaching myself is if you don't have a legitimate job, and by that I mean trapping and drug dealing and hurting people.
	That is a hard no.
	So I'm still teaching myself that it's as far as having a legitimate job, that could also be taking the steps to follow your dreams, even if you don't have any money in the process.
	But just making sure that you know what you're going after.
	So a no is not, I have a no if you don't know what you want, like or if you're not willing to figure out what you want.
	Next.
	I mean, I'm trying to think what's a hard no for me.
	It's like literally hygiene.
	So that if you uh-uh.
	Because if you can't take care of yourself, and I like someone, I don't necessarily need someone who's like shredded or whatever it is, but it's like somebody who takes care of themselves and the hygiene because that goes hand in hand.
	If you can't take care of yourself, how am I going to trust you to take care of me?
	So is there like a specific job that is a hard no for you?
	Job?
	I mean, honestly, the law enforcement, it's because sometimes those guys can get excited with power.
	So I don't know.
	And then they have too much power, as in they can check my background.
	They have way too much power.
	So that one kind of makes me nervous.
	So if I can avoid law enforcement, I will.
	But it's not a hard.
	It's like, eh.
	Eh.
	No.
	Prefer not.
	I'm not really sure if I should say this because I don't want anyone to get mad at me.
	Say it.
	Say it.
	I know.
	Now you have to say it.
	Oh, well, it's kind of like their political stance.
	Like, if they're not free Palestine, I cannot talk to you.
	Like, I just can't.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, sorry.
	She's not.
	She's saying her stance.
	You're good.
	Really?
	Do we just have to instantly go to social justice right away?
	Just right away.
	Say, but that's my whole thing.
	It's certainly hard to find.
	That's her right.
	Hard no.
	I would say bisexual.
	Ooh.
	What about gay?
	Just full gay.
	Any guy that's bisexual?
	No.
	I'm sorry.
	Don't care if you're the richest, handsome, smartest guy.
	Sorry, not doing it.
	Yeah.
	I agree.
	I would just say, if you're not funny, I like a good joke and I laugh at almost everything.
	But if you can't make me laugh, that's it.
	I'm going to second her on bisexual, and I'm going to second you on the hygiene.
	And yeah, just laziness.
	He has to be hardworking, have ambition, and kind of fall into my political views somewhat.
	Lack of work ethic and discipline?
	Yes, discipline.
	Definitely hygiene, and if you don't have ambition, for sure.
	Are there any like jobs?
	Oh, I already asked you, but like jobs that are hard no's for you guys.
	I don't really, I mean, clown OnlyFans.
	Yeah, only fans for sure.
	But I think that's it.
	I haven't really thought about that one a lot.
	I wouldn't date a firefighter.
	Why?
	I just don't like their reputation.
	I have like a bunch of friends who marry firefighters and like they just like cheat on everyone's wives with each other and it's like not my truck drivers.
	No truck drivers.
	Not all of them are like that, but I don't think I would be able to do it.
	I hear like the truck driver reputation is like they all do drugs or something.
	No, it's like they just all do everything because they have to be in every place.
	Like, if you ask the children of a truck driver, they'll tell you the truth.
	I'm not friends with her no more, but her dad was a truck driver, and she like, man, I got siblings all across the world.
	I ain't even met them.
	Oh, that's dropping seats at each stop.
	Every truck drives me.
	Every truck stop, there's a steepest drop.
	Could that apply to like a flight attendant or like a pilot?
	Pilots are notorious for being like, I think the biggest horse.
	I'm going to just fly out of there.
	Yeah.
	Are there any like no's for you?
	For jobs?
	I don't know a specific job.
	I definitely wouldn't want a guy that made less than I do.
	You know, it's, I do like the male-female role, so I don't really care about going shopping or going on like lavish trips or anything, but I definitely like viewing the guy like a provider.
	And I went that route with some past relationships where because I made good money, I didn't care about what they did.
	And I mean, honestly, it gets to you after a while.
	I think you start looking at them in a feminine light.
	And I now realize how important it is to see a guy like a man.
	And so, I mean, I like the alpha man, so I don't really necessarily care about what he does.
	It's more about his drive.
	And it's the drive is important too, because if they are a trust funder and they don't have the drive because they were handed everything, that could all be taken away and then they're screwed.
	So I think drive is the thing I look at most.
	I think that discipline is so important to a man that doesn't have any discipline.
	Like, I don't think I would be able to trust him at all.
	Absolutely.
	I think it goes into other parts of their lives too.
	That was base donated $200.
	Late to the convo.
	Thoughts on what happened in Pennsylvania yesterday around the table?
	Should we ask that?
	Okay, yeah.
	Well, hang on.
	Hang on.
	We'll wait for Brian to get back on that one.
	It's fine.
	It's fine.
	He said, just have them answer.
	Quick answer.
	Are you sure?
	Yeah, fuck it.
	I think it's sick.
	I'm pro-Trump, so yeah, I think it's disgusting what happened.
	Word?
	Did a woman save his life?
	That's exactly what I'm saying.
	Absolutely not.
	Under no circumstances did that happen.
	Not even close.
	Not even in the same universe.
	Not even in any alternative universe.
	If you were a scientist who postulated one billion different universes which were parallel mapped onto this one, in all of those, a woman still never saved Trump's life.
	No, I literally seen something that said that.
	That's why I asked.
	I was just asking.
	Yeah, well, I just wanted to make sure that I was completely clear with you so that you knew that the answer is unequivocally no.
	Thank you.
	You're welcome.
	So what are your thoughts on it, though?
	I don't know.
	Trump, a lot of people, I've seen something where a lot of people like Trump because he was giving us free money and checks and stuff.
	I don't have an exact political status on Trump.
	So I feel that as long as he's not hurting anybody and nobody's hurting him, then we should be fine.
	But obviously that's not the case.
	What happened yesterday, whether you like him or not, that is probably he secured, I feel like the election.
	And that photo of him just raising his fist up in the air is probably the most legendary photo of any president.
	And it's going to go down in history.
	So it's crazy.
	He's been doing some legendary stuff, like even going to prison in Atlanta.
	Like he almost got shot.
	Like he's doing a lot of gangster things, but I'm not saying I'm pro-Trump or anything.
	I would just say he does a lot of iconic and historic things.
	Yeah, for sure.
	The man is a legend, whether you like him or not.
	Yeah, I would say I like sympathize with him because I was in a situation in Atlanta where I got shot and it was like a really, it was not like his.
	Mine was a little bit worse.
	But yeah, so I was.
	How did you get hit?
	I got shot in the head, but it was half an inch from my brain.
	It was a .22 caliber bullet, and it was a shootout in front of my college, Georgia State.
	Yeah, that's the deadliest drama in the United States, is a.22.
	People don't know what it is.
	And it was during the Trump era.
	It was during the Trump era 2020 when he was in election and everyone was going to be able to do it.
	Was this during the BLM stuff?
	It was during Black Lives Matter, yeah.
	Yeah.
	It was a lot of people.
	And is that what caused the situation?
	Yeah, black on black violence.
	Yeah, it was just violence just in the streets.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So I just went through.
	Who was that?
	Was that under Trump or was that under a Trump?
	That was under Trump.
	Yeah, it was under Trump.
	Yeah, it was during his re it was during his election or something.
	I forget what was happening, but he was stirring up a riot.
	There were rallies in Georgia, and it was during COVID.
	I don't know remember exactly what happened, but it was 2020.
	And it took me four years to recover and like have the bullet get out my head.
	And this was like the first time.
	Where on your head were you hit?
	Right by my ear on this side.
	And it was, it took four years for it to grow out my head.
	So, you know, I'm very grateful.
	So your skin was pushing the bullet out.
	Yeah, so I went to a neurosurgeon and they said that they were going to have to shave my hair off if I wanted to take the bullet out or I could just suffer pain for until it grows out.
	And I just decided to just suffer the pain because I didn't want to shave my head.
	And they said there was a risk that I would have a twitch in my face due to the surgery.
	So I just was just going to tough it out.
	So.
	Yeah.
	So it was this state that you were in when this happened.
	Did it by chance have a Democrat governor?
	I'm confused.
	No, it's Georgia.
	Georgia had a Georgia.
	I was in Atlanta.
	Atlanta, Georgia.
	Governor, I think.
	You were in Atlanta.
	Yeah, it was Republican.
	I was living in Atlanta.
	It was a Republican state.
	Yeah, right.
	What about the mayor of Atlanta?
	He was Democrat.
	He was Democrat.
	Yeah.
	He was Democrat, yeah.
	And was that the same mayor of Atlanta who told the police to stand down during the massive riots and allowed them to go through and just do that?
	I would say that that was a bad time in that the hospital systems, the police systems, everything was just really bad.
	Really bad time frame in Atlanta, I would say.
	Yeah.
	Especially under a Democrat mayor who allows that type of violence to happen right in the middle of the streets that led to you getting shot in the head.
	That seems like it seems like it's really bad to have Democrats in charge of anything.
	I mean, I don't think it was necessarily like under whether or not he's Republican or Democratic.
	It was happening because it was the state of Georgia was going crazy.
	Like everybody in Georgia was going crazy.
	Oh no, almost everything went crazy.
	And it was COVID.
	So it was like a time that no one ever experienced.
	Yeah.
	Like no one experienced something down like that.
	People's reactions, I guess.
	Where did we leave off?
	I don't have a political standpoint on Trump, but I think it's kind of iconic how through everything that he's been through, all the controversies and all the hate that he's still standing.
	Like he got shot at and he's like still alive and still here and still fighting for what he wants.
	I'm pro-Trump and I think what happened was devastating and I think regardless of where you stand politically you should be essentially devastated if you love this country and regardless of what you think.
	So I agree.
	I think he's fighting for us every day and it's sad that this has happened to him.
	So I'm definitely pro-Trump and I think what happened was super devastating as well.
	Although it was a power move with that photo.
	All right.
	Cool.
	We have Desert Joe keeping this in the context of the U.S. was currently the law in the books.
	All men are required to register for selective service draft at age 18 in order to get the right to vote.
	Women are not.
	Did you have something for this?
	It looked like you were about to.
	No, I'm just tired of hearing about it.
	It's giving me a headache.
	It's giving you a headache to know that men have to be drafted.
	No, it's like everyone has their own opinion.
	Like, I respect everyone's individual opinions, but I just don't want my right to be taken away because I'm a woman and you want me to fight in a war.
	Okay, your opinion is your opinion.
	No, I don't want your right to vote to be taken away.
	I just want you to fight in a war.
	Be drafted.
	That's your thoughts.
	Yeah, but don't you think that would be fair?
	Like, okay, too freaking bad.
	You don't think it's fair?
	No, that's not what's happening now.
	Why got the upper hand?
	Because I can't fight in a war like how a man could.
	And if I was trained to, if I was trained to, I would, yeah, I would love to.
	But I'm not trained.
	I'm not knowledgeable on war methods and techniques on how to defend myself.
	That's just an opinion.
	Like, if you want me to fight in war, that's your opinion.
	I like where I'm at right now, and I like my visit here.
	Let me ask you this.
	That's the main thing.
	Do you think it's unfair then that in order for men to be allowed to vote and to receive other sorts of benefits, they have to register for the selective service, which makes them subject, potentially subject, to forced military conscription?
	Do you think that's unfair?
	No.
	You don't think it's unfair?
	No.
	Why is it not unfair?
	Because you're a man.
	What does that have to do with anything?
	Do your job.
	What is that?
	She's just saying it's like gender roles.
	She's saying like...
	Are you a virgin?
	It doesn't matter.
	She's saying that it has gender roles.
	If a man is a provider, are you a virgin?
	But that doesn't have anything to do with it.
	It absolutely has everything to do.
	How?
	Yes, female virginity has been more, what's the term?
	More has more import to men than it does the reverse.
	You want to talk about traditional gender roles?
	I'm not talking about traditional gender roles.
	I just say you're not talking to me about wanting to be fighting.
	Like the physicality of a man.
	Should women be paid equally?
	I thank God that I can do the job equally.
	Yeah.
	If they can do the job, equality is good.
	For instance, in your religion, when men will take on multiple wives, if they take on a fourth wife, they will value in her virginity, right?
	Yes, virginity is virgin.
	But hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	But they're obviously not valuing his virginity.
	He's no longer a virgin, right?
	No.
	It's gender rules.
	No.
	So the thing is, is that what Brian's saying here is accurate.
	He's saying, okay, in this particular case, the value that he places on a woman of virginity, even in your own culture, is highly valuable.
	And you must know this because by your own logic, a woman, yeah, if there's multiple wives, they're going to be selecting four virgin wives.
	In fact, it's imperative that they select for that.
	Just think how you would like to think, and I have no disrespect for your opinion.
	I'm just grateful that I have the right to vote and I don't have to be drafted.
	Yeah, I get that you're grateful for the right to vote, and I get that you're grateful that you don't have to be drafted.
	And I'm also, me, I'm grateful you have actual arguments, right?
	In this particular case, though, you made the same argument, and that's what I don't understand because it's been defeated.
	I don't understand why it is that you think when you say, well, men, that is their role to go fight.
	I don't even disagree with you.
	I don't think that any of the Islamicists who hear this will disagree with you.
	I think all of us collectively would agree men's role is to fight in wars.
	But we would also agree that that means that the political power to send men off to war should be in the hands of men.
	Okay, that's your opinion.
	Do you have a reputation?
	I have nothing to say from that.
	That's your opinion, and then you can just do what you want.
	Like, everyone has their own opinion.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So, you said it's men's job to do what?
	I feel like a man should defend his country, yeah.
	Okay.
	So, then, what's a woman's job?
	To shelter, to nurture, to do what a woman's value in life, whatever value she has to offer.
	Right, but is she required to do that by the government?
	Can she be forced to do that by the government?
	She's not.
	Okay, and let's say women were forced to do that by the government.
	Would that be worse than having being forced to go to war and potentially die?
	So, you're saying, because of this standpoint, you're saying that women shouldn't vote if they don't.
	How do you feel?
	What do you think?
	I'm not arguing for walking back of women's right to vote.
	What I am arguing for is an equalization of what the current status quo is.
	If men have to be drafted, so too do women.
	But what good would that do with our physical physicality?
	No, but when it comes to statistics of the body, would it benefit America for women with no intellectual ignorant women who don't know how to shoot a gun?
	How are we going to help you guys in war in the battlefield rather than being behind and doing nursing?
	No, because that means you want women to die on battles because of equality.
	That's what it sounds like.
	So, do you think women should not be able to volunteer to join the military?
	They could, yes, they should.
	Anybody should have their rights.
	Hold on, hold on.
	That's such a weird argument.
	Because the inverse would be true.
	So, if you make the bold claim that, wait, you see, men are engineered to fight these wars.
	They're the best, the greatest, the finest who have ever existed fighting wars.
	Women could never do it in a million years the way that they can.
	Again, I would totally agree with you.
	How is it that you can reconcile, though, that you should have the political power to send them off to fight one?
	I didn't have no political power.
	I didn't choose for that.
	I didn't ask you.
	Let her answer.
	Hey, don't talk to my twin like that.
	Well, I mean, I'm just being fair, right?
	I want to have the conversation with the person I'm having it with.
	The exchange they've had with both of you have been highly respectful.
	But let's have the convo.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	So you're saying, sorry, can you rephrase the question?
	Yeah, so I agree with you.
	I totally agree with you.
	Men are going to be way better at fighting wars than women.
	And that is their general role.
	They are the best at it.
	The best of the best of the best of the best.
	Why should you have the political power to send them off to do that again?
	I think that is not the woman.
	I think there's too much emphasis on the women sending men off to war.
	It's the whole country as a total vote.
	It's not just, oh, me, if I say he has to go to war, then you guys have to go to war.
	No, it's literal, the way the government is set up, it's not based off of a woman's vote.
	It's literally the not even, even the spot of like all of us, it's like democracy.
	Oh, well, if women's votes don't matter, then why do you want the right to vote?
	It's as a whole.
	It's not just women's vote.
	As a whole, hang on.
	If as a whole, women's right to vote don't matter, then why do you want women to be able to vote?
	That's not what I said.
	Oh, but then as a whole, their vote does matter?
	As a whole, it does make a difference, but it's not the entirety of the vote.
	It's not the entirety of the decision.
	So that's why I feel like you're invalid for your statement because it's a process of the government.
	Okay, well, let's discuss the logic here and see.
	To send women and to send men off of which one of our logic makes the most sense.
	So we start with women.
	Wait a second, my vote doesn't matter.
	I'm just a lonely female.
	And it's a collective of females.
	It's like, okay, I can accept that.
	It's a collective of women.
	But then, if I say, well, wait, if women's votes don't matter, then why do you want the right to vote?
	You say, well, women's votes do matter.
	If that is true, then you are admitting that collectively women can influence the electoral process, which could include influencing the deciding factor on whether or not men go to war.
	Well, because it's the humanity of your life.
	Like, you're putting your life in the hands of your government, and a woman lives here too.
	A woman lives in the other country, too, that they're going to war with.
	Why are you saying, oh, I don't care about your life?
	Your life matters whether or not you're a man, whether or not you're a woman, whether or not you're fighting on this front.
	Because you're incapable of war.
	You are in this country.
	You have a right to say what your life is here for you.
	That's a really easy thing to state that, hey, wait a second.
	I do understand that this is going to be a thing fought by men, and so I'm using the vote responsibly.
	There's no possible way for us to trust that, considering that you can vote for it for this thing and never suffer the negative repercussions of it.
	They are suffering the repercussions.
	No, just not as equal to men.
	Just not as equal.
	You're not suffering the negative repercussions of it.
	You're voting to send men off to fight your battles for you.
	You say this is technologically supposed to do.
	They're telos, their purpose, what they're ingrained to do is to fight wars.
	I even agree with that.
	How is not losing someone you love?
	Then why can't you stop?
	Hang on.
	Let me ask the question that he can answer.
	If it is so, that it is their purpose to fight war.
	If it is so, that it is ingrained in them to go and protect women and children and other men who are enfeebled, then why shouldn't the destiny of who they fight the war with be solely in their own hands?
	You think it should be solely in a man's hands?
	It should be solely in the hands of those who have the potential to go fight the war, not in those who do not.
	Okay.
	Can you tell me why that's wrong?
	That's not wrong.
	It's not wrong.
	That's not wrong.
	I never said that.
	That's why I don't want you to vote.
	That's why.
	You just said it's not wrong.
	It's not wrong to feel that way.
	It's not wrong.
	It's not wrong.
	Yeah, because what is wrong?
	Who am I to say that is wrong?
	Wrong means that that is against God's nature.
	Well, wait a second.
	That's funny that you bring up epistemology.
	You bring up the grounding foundation of all of your morals comes from God.
	So does mine.
	Okay, so then why should I say that?
	When you say wrong, hang on.
	When you say wrong, you're agreeing with me that all right and wrong comes from God, right?
	It's not wrong for you to feel that way.
	That's just just are you agreeing that all right and wrong comes from God?
	Yes.
	And is God masculine or is God feminine?
	Neither.
	It's the highest, unfathomable.
	Neither.
	The highest.
	So the highest God as a he or she, it's neither.
	Oh, I see.
	And the highest prophet of God, was that a male or a female?
	Male.
	All prophets are all prophets are males.
	All prophets are that's really weird that all prophets are males.
	They're the leader.
	All of them are all of them.
	That's why she said go to war.
	Go to your vote.
	Go lead.
	Go lead for the country.
	Chill out.
	Chill out.
	Okay.
	I'm sorry.
	Do you think that Christians aren't patriarchists?
	Did you have that?
	What?
	Yeah, Christians are patriarchists as well.
	I'm not going to believe for a moment because I'm a Christian patriarchist.
	But if all of your prophets are male, well, that's really weird.
	How come God doesn't want his message sent through women?
	I'm not sure.
	I'm not God.
	You're not sure.
	I'm not God.
	How am I to stand for that?
	You're not sure.
	Does God want you to have authority over men?
	And I would answer that question if he put that in the Bible.
	Does God want you to have authority over men?
	No.
	No.
	Then why the fuck can you vote before they go to war?
	Because it's our right.
	It's our right.
	It's our right because we're alive in this too.
	We have a part to war.
	Women have a central part in war.
	And you're trying to dismiss us because it's not as a negative.
	It is negative, but not as negative.
	You are right about that.
	But it's still negative for a woman to lose her love of her life, to lose her father, to lose her whole family in war.
	That's fair.
	That's a fair argument.
	Hey, that's a fair argument, too.
	We have a part in war.
	And I hate that you guys are trying to say it's all men.
	Only war is about men.
	Men are about war.
	It's only that they're the only ones that suffer the consequences.
	No, that's your argument.
	That's actually your argument to say men should fight the war.
	Your argument is to say men should fight the war because men dying changed all of our lives.
	It changes all of our lives.
	Hang on, hang on.
	You got to let me finish my point, and then I'll let you finish yours.
	It's actually your point to say men are the most badass, and they're the ones who need to fight because that's what a man does.
	That's what a man does.
	He goes out and fights all those wars for you.
	It's like, okay, fair enough.
	That's what a man does on behalf of you.
	Wait, make that face one more time.
	Make the face one more time, Mitch.
	That's what a man does for you.
	If it is so.
	No, clip it and ship it, boys.
	That's what a man does on behalf of you.
	Then why is it that you should have the right to vote to make him do that instead of him?
	Who, by the way, you have admitted your God only speaks through prophets, which are men.
	You have admitted women are not to have authority over men.
	Why in the fucking world, then, according to your own worldview, should you have the authority to send men off to war ever or any female politician ever?
	Okay, yeah.
	Ever.
	Are you done?
	I'm done.
	All right, great.
	I was just waiting.
	Okay, so basically, I just have a simple point: you are right about the prophets being a men should be a leader in life with women when it comes to like leadership in political parties and so forth.
	But it doesn't take away that a woman is just as important in the message the prophets, the prophets have to give.
	Who did Jesus, who was his mother, Miriam?
	She was so important in his message.
	She was so important.
	Miriam?
	His mom, Jesus' mom.
	What are you talking about?
	I mean, Mary?
	Her name is Miriam.
	That's what she said.
	No, she said Miriam.
	That's her name.
	It's Mary.
	Well, it's Mary.
	That's for other.
	Maximus was the philosopher.
	Okay, if you guys literally stop thinking from a Christian point of view, it's all religions.
	Don't call her Mary.
	In my religion, I call her Mary.
	No, no, I understand.
	Okay, I guess from your perspective, you're calling her.
	Christian ideology is Mary.
	Okay, I respect it.
	But how I speak, how I say her name is Miriam.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	And the point of what I'm saying is: a woman has a part into every piece of a man's life.
	That's why Eve came from Adam.
	Did Mary have authority over Christ?
	I'm not saying that a woman has authority, and you're using manipulative words to say that a woman has authority over a man's life in war.
	That's why I'm saying that statistically and educationally, like when it comes to government process of voting, a woman does not have the full control or over superiority of a man going to war.
	That's definitely not true.
	Okay, so let me try this out again.
	I'm just going to ask hyper-specifically.
	Okay, hyperspecifically.
	In your religion, yes or no, should women ever have authority over men ever?
	No.
	No.
	So in the political process, should women have authority over men ever?
	No, I'm not.
	They don't.
	They don't have it.
	They don't have it.
	And right now, right now, humanity has a lot of people.
	Right now, are there female politicians in the United States who have authority over women or men right now?
	Right now, are there women who have authority over men in the United States?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	And should they?
	No, not from my understanding.
	They shouldn't.
	So no woman should ever be able to in Congress or as president or as senator ever be able to cast a single vote in a position of authority in the United States.
	Yes or no?
	It's undecided for me because I'm not afraid of that.
	No, answer my question.
	Don't deflect.
	No, I'm not as in that political field.
	I plead the fifth because I'm not in that political field.
	I don't believe there's a woman righteous enough.
	I don't know.
	Because there may be a woman righteous enough to do that.
	She might be.
	Oh, man.
	So let me get this right.
	Let me get this right.
	I ask you, should a woman ever have authority over a man?
	Answer.
	No.
	Should a female politician ever have authority over a man?
	Answer, no.
	Then why is it that you should be able to vote for a female politician that has authority over a man?
	Your answer, I plead the fucking fifth.
	Is that correct?
	Yes.
	Do we have that about right?
	Did we reduce your position down to where it needs to be yet?
	Please, for the love of God, I hope you have.
	Oh, no.
	I'm just going to say something else.
	So can you answer my last question?
	Should a female politician ever have the authority to send a man to war?
	Yes or no?
	I don't know.
	I don't know the answer to that.
	You don't know.
	Okay.
	Please give me a random discussion.
	Got it moved on.
	Got it moved on.
	We do have Sifler.
	Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to 10.
	Can't pick seven.
	Starting with you.
	Go ahead.
	Five.
	Into the mics, guys.
	My own looks?
	Yeah, looks.
	Ten.
	Okay.
	I don't know, eight.
	Sure, I would have to say ten.
	Yeah, ten.
	I selflowed a six.
	Like a 5.5.
	I'll say five.
	Six and a half.
	Give myself a five, Andrew.
	Four.
	Four.
	So we've got ten, eight.
	I know all the women laugh at that.
	Like, what the am I way more attractive than I think I am?
	You should just look at me then and be like, Andrew, you're so handsome.
	It's ridiculous.
	Like, we just can't even control ourselves.
	I don't.
	Why else would they laugh?
	Is it less?
	Should it be a three?
	Like, what am I getting wrong here?
	Wait, can I ask a question?
	Yeah, why do people rate themselves less than a ten?
	Like, just from, I just, I'm curious as to why you guys think you're not.
	That's a good question.
	There's room for improvement.
	So what we're trying to ascertain is whether or not you think you're perfect.
	You don't need any perfect improvement.
	No, it's not.
	Well, actually, Andrew, we're trying to ascertain if you're delusional.
	Yeah, but that would be the claim of perfection.
	Sure.
	So anybody who would claim that they were perfect would be delusional.
	10 would indicate that.
	You think 10 is perfect?
	Yeah, so when we're rating a scale of 1 to 10, 10 is the max, right?
	Yeah.
	Physically.
	She said that's a good question.
	Yeah, yeah, perfect.
	Physically perfect.
	Can anything be above a 10?
	Can anything be?
	Okay, well then hang on.
	Just follow my logic.
	Can anything in the scale of 1 to 10 be higher than 10?
	No.
	No.
	But nobody's perfect.
	Yeah, so if 10 is the highest, that means that you're counting yourself among the elite least percentile on planet Earth.
	I don't even know if there's a 10 which exists, but if there was, you're claiming that that is you.
	No, I didn't see the question in that way.
	I didn't see the question that they, I think everything is imperfect.
	So the word perfect to me doesn't stand in that question of physically 10.
	I think that everyone in this table is absolutely beautiful.
	So I would rate everyone here 10.
	Including myself.
	I think that's fair.
	So let's back up and kind of address that.
	Because I don't believe that's a good argument.
	You're using the word perfection as in that's 10.
	10 is perfection because that's your perception.
	Now I understand what I get it.
	Now I understand what you mean by perfect.
	And I understand that you're also yielding to a God you consider only God to be perfect, right?
	Yeah.
	Is that correct?
	That's your standard of perfection, right?
	Yes.
	Both of you?
	Yes.
	I mean, I can't consider the other one.
	Both one.
	Into mics, please.
	Yes.
	Okay, so if you're only considering God perfect, that's fine, okay?
	Though I don't know how you would be able to ascertain the physical beauty of God, we will still assume that under your worldview, the physical beauty of God is a 10 along with everyone.
	I think myself, including everyone, hang on, hang on, because that is perfect.
	Perfectly physical.
	No.
	Okay, I get it.
	But what I'm saying to you is that in this scale, we're only talking about physical characteristics.
	10 being the highest possible.
	So let me reframe.
	I think everyone's a 10 up in here.
	Stop and let me finish.
	Let me reframe the question so that you understand it better.
	Understanding your paradigm.
	If 1,000 men, random men, random, meaning, again, I can't emphasize this enough.
	Random.
	In fact, repeat back the word random so I know that you know what I mean.
	Because I've asked this question a million times.
	I just need to know you know it.
	Yeah, random.
	Okay.
	So 1,000 random men, they're at a fair, and you're in a beauty contest, and they bring you up, and they say, okay, guys, you can go from one to 10 on her beauty.
	Okay, and the average of what all of you determine her beauty to be is what we'll go with.
	So this guy raises two, this guy raises four, this guy raises seven, this guy raises ten.
	What do you think the average, the collective, of all 1,000 of the men would put you numerically?
	We're going to start with you, and then we're going to ask you for.
	Go ahead.
	Who me?
	Yeah.
	What I think that they would think of me.
	Did you hear what he was saying?
	He said, yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's kind of a hard question to answer.
	It's kind of a hard question to answer.
	Okay, so you answered 10.
	Yeah.
	So in the scenario that he gave you, what do you think they would give you?
	The thousand random men?
	On average.
	I want to say I want to say 10.
	Shit, yeah.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	You said eight.
	What would the thousand men give you?
	Average?
	I don't know, maybe seven.
	Because I don't know.
	This is difficult because beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
	That's why we have 1,000 beholders, and we're asking you to average what you think they'd say.
	But I don't know their perception on beauty.
	They like Western beauty.
	They like blondes.
	They like Western beauty.
	I'm not Western beauty.
	Yeah, great.
	So anyway, they like Western beauty.
	So then I wouldn't be able to, like, I wouldn't apply to this.
	I wouldn't apply to this scenario because if people like Western beauty, that's blonde hair, blue eyes, lighter skin.
	I'm the opposite of that.
	Okay, fine.
	They value Eastern beauty.
	She would be a 10.
	She would still be a 10.
	I view myself as a 11.
	It just depends on what you.
	I know that you view yourself as a 10.
	My question is not how you're going to be.
	Maybe they would be attracted to her just as much as she's attracted to herself.
	What's my.
	Hang on.
	I just want you to repeat for me.
	What's my actual question to you?
	Can you repeat it for me?
	The question that you're asking is: if there's a thousand men, what is the average of, what is the rate that they're going to give you on average based off of the thousand men that are looking at you in the beauty past?
	Yes.
	Am I thinking is that?
	That's my question.
	That's correct.
	Right?
	They're going to rate you a 10.
	So answer the question.
	Like she said, depending on where we are, like if I'm in the east or five.
	Oh, God, you're in East.
	You're as east as you can go or as central, wherever the fuck is it?
	How does this matter?
	That's why I'm like, whatever you think it'll be.
	Okay, yeah.
	If it was in my side of where I was raised, where I was blood-born, then yeah, that would be a 10.
	But if I was in America, where were you born?
	Where's that?
	Well, I'm Egyptian.
	Full-blood Egyptian.
	You think it'd be a 10 in Egypt?
	Yes, absolutely.
	Okay.
	I already know that.
	All right.
	And so then.
	So all 1,000 men would hold up a sign saying 10.
	Yes, 100%.
	Oh, okay.
	And then.
	And now I would just want you to look at me and say, Andrew, I just want these words.
	Can you look right in the camera?
	Just look at the camera.
	Whatever cameras are closest to you, look right at it and say, Andrew, I'm not delusional.
	Every man in Egypt would say I'm a 10.
	No, I'm not saying that because that's not.
	See, your words are very manipulative.
	You just said 1,000.
	If it's 1,000 out of 1,000.
	Well, every man.
	But yeah, I would think that I would love to.
	I would love to have a sample size higher than 1,000 out of 1,000.
	I would love to think that every man in Egypt finds me beautiful.
	Yes, I would love to think that.
	That is the same thing.
	Well, my question isn't what you'd like to think.
	My question is what you actually think.
	That is what I think.
	Your question is, what I like to think is what I think.
	It's not even valid.
	It's about my self-love.
	I'm asking my question value.
	Because how are we supposed to know what other men think?
	I'm a woman.
	I don't have the mind to do that.
	Well, I'm not asking you to know what.
	You are asking me.
	You're asking me to, how would they judge me?
	How am I supposed to know?
	Yeah, I'm just asking what you think they would guess.
	I don't know.
	Whatever they guess.
	You know what I mean?
	It's an invalid question.
	I'll take this.
	It's an invalid question.
	Okay, hang on.
	I got it.
	It's an invalid question.
	If a bird hit that window doing a thousand miles an hour, what do you think would happen?
	They would die.
	Oh, wait.
	Suddenly, when it comes to a hypothetical, you can, even though it hasn't happened, you don't know exactly what would happen.
	You can somehow make a guess as to what would happen.
	But in this case, oh, your brain, it just is empty.
	You have no idea what they'd ever say.
	You're hurting my brain.
	Yeah, I'm sure.
	And every Egyptian man would agree with me.
	No, they wouldn't.
	I don't even think we should grant this geographical move.
	You guys currently reside in the United States.
	So what would men a cross-section of menu?
	I think I would be an eight to nine, nine.
	I would say nine in my nine.
	Okay.
	Yeah, nine for me.
	You guys are twins.
	I would say the same answer.
	Nine, nine.
	Okay.
	So still ten, nine, nine.
	Somebody going to tell them?
	Somebody telling Madison you want to tell them?
	Morgan, you want to tell them?
	So it would actually, I just want to let you know that what you're saying is that you think 1,000 out of 1,000 men would essentially vote 9 or 10 or 8 for every single one of you to the point that you would average out to a 9 or a 10.
	Yeah.
	This would put you at the highest, hang on.
	This would put you at the highest beauty standards of the entirety of planet Earth, the highest possible beauty standards.
	So that you understand what that means, every single woman who has come on this podcast has given a similar answer to that, which means that either A, Brian Atlas only books the most beautiful women in the world to come on whatever.
	Hottest chips.
	Or the more likely possibility, for instance, if I were to ask you this question, you two twins in the back, and I'll let you both answer.
	If you right now had to make a gamble, hang on, had to make a gamble.
	And if you were wrong on the gamble, you instantly dropped dead.
	That was the consequence of the gamble.
	If you had to either gamble, A, that Brian Atlas brings the most beautiful women on the podcast ever, or B, that the women who mostly come on the podcast are delusional when it comes to self-ratings, which way would you gamble?
	I would not gamble because it's haram, first of all.
	Yeah, I know, but you're not.
	I mean, wrong.
	You're asking the wrong person.
	I got to.
	Yeah, yeah, I know.
	You know what's not haram?
	A hypothetical.
	So engage in the hypothesis.
	Okay, just I just don't understand why do you want us to look at ourselves lower?
	No, no, no, hold on.
	Hold on.
	I don't get it.
	You can't weasel answer his question.
	I just don't understand.
	I'm more than happy to be humbled by saying I'm a one.
	I would say that I could be a one.
	I'd be honest with that.
	Answer my question.
	Answer the actual question.
	Wait, well, that's the question.
	The question is, if you had to gamble and the stakes were your life, would you either gamble, A, that Brian Atlas brings the most beautiful women in the world on his podcast and fills the entire podcast with them, or B, that most of the women who come on the podcast are delusional when it comes to their self-rating.
	Hey, hang on.
	Hang on.
	You didn't even hear the second part of the question.
	Yeah, I heard.
	I remember.
	Or you will die.
	You're going to answer before you even heard because it's not a problem.
	Because I know the answer.
	I know the answer.
	It's not delusion.
	You shouldn't feel like a woman who self-love or whatever thinks that everyone here is beautiful is delusional.
	That's self-hate.
	That's not what it is.
	The question is not whether or not you shouldn't have a high estimate of your own looks.
	The question is diverting to the gaze of males and whether or not men would judge you the same way you judge yourself.
	That question is.
	Hang on.
	Your answer is, yes, they would.
	And so my question becomes, if that is so, and every single woman who comes on this podcast gives a similar answer, then that would be conceding that Brian Atlas just has the most beautiful women on his podcast.
	Yes.
	And then that audience would agree by placebo.
	Placebo effect.
	Placebo.
	Placebo effect.
	Because when everyone is like, oh, wow, like I'm so beautiful.
	They think that they're very beautiful up in here, like all the people here.
	Do you realize that the placebo effect would indicate that you were wrong?
	The placebo effect is saying there is no actual consequence here, but it's make-believe and all-in-your head.
	Yes.
	What I'm saying is a delusion.
	Do you realize that?
	I got you.
	Wait, what?
	He's right.
	The placebo effect is a delusion.
	Yeah.
	That's not what.
	I feel like he was trying to say, oh, I'm saying the people, the people watching.
	I didn't say the women.
	I said it's the placebo effect on the people.
	You're not listening to my goddamn statement.
	You're just sitting up here talking about it.
	The placebo effect.
	I just said there's a placebo effect on the audience, not the people on here.
	You're just.
	Oh, it's not that.
	You're a delusion.
	You're delusional.
	So do you think that the women, all of the women who come on the whatever podcast just happen to be the most beautiful women in the whole world?
	Or do you think that they might have a slightly higher estimation of themselves than the general public would?
	I would like to see a woman be self-confident in herself.
	And I would not hide.
	I'm not true with confidence.
	How are you going to say that they are naturally attractive?
	That's on your side.
	You look in the mirror and you think you're a one?
	Like, no.
	Based on how you were raised, based off on your programming, your programming is telling me that I am beautiful to you off of one to ten.
	Why do I give a damn?
	I don't.
	So why would I think in the way of a man?
	I'm not going to think in the way of a man.
	That's why the question is not, it's like we are not men.
	How are we know that?
	So we can only give our estimated guests based off ourselves, based off of a woman's standpoint.
	All right, hang on.
	I get it.
	I get it now.
	Due to the fact that leprechauns and unicorns mate in the sky and there's rainbows underneath Skittles on top of hills which exist within ants who are chocolate covered, LaFlipidus are often green.
	I'm just going based off of my life.
	Or are you going to keep obfuscating it as shit that I don't care about?
	My question is, does Brian Atlas bring on the most beautiful women in the world?
	Yes, I already said the answer.
	Alternatively, do they have a higher estimation of themselves than they actually believe that they do?
	That's my question.
	Answer the question.
	Number one, I answered it.
	I circled it three times.
	No, what you did was you said that unicorns live underground with gophers and sometimes they wear green hats.
	Well, you're a good delusion, so that's why you're mad that you want me to join your television.
	I did!
	You didn't.
	Saying that you answered the question doesn't mean you answered it.
	It just means that you're full of shit.
	Answer the question.
	Oh, shit.
	Wait, Andrew, isn't a component of the question under threat of death?
	So like they would exit.
	Basically.
	No, what's going on is they actually haven't answered the question.
	They've gone out of their way to do everything but answer it.
	So I'm going to ask one more time.
	This time, just I'll just give you what you want.
	I just want to give you what you want.
	We are saying what we think is our higher self, whatever you want to say.
	That's my answer.
	What?
	And if your higher self were to not map onto reality, but you thought it would have a better effect.
	Well, I do think I'm a good, so why should I say it on the bottom?
	Stop.
	Let me ask the question.
	If you were to think that whatever the higher self of people was, even if it was a lie, but it had a better effect, would you still recommend that people go with their higher self?
	Yes.
	Then you have just stated no reason to ever believe you when you say your higher self ever.
	Would you?
	Would you go with your lower self or your higher self?
	I would go with reality.
	Which is what?
	Which is what?
	Reality.
	What do women rate you?
	In this particular case, inside the context of the question, the objective reality.
	Do you rate me?
	If I were to take shots.
	I'm answering the question.
	If I were to take 1,000 women and they were to all rate me based on Western standards of beauty, I think that collectively they would come up with something pretty close to a war.
	Can we rate you?
	Sure, go ahead.
	Wait, can it be a table thing?
	Because I don't want to be the only one.
	Sure, go ahead.
	Oh, here you go.
	Should we start?
	And you know what I'll do?
	Let's see what happens.
	I would really say that you're like a seven.
	Like, you're giving like prince vibes.
	Like, you're a liar, but no, just physical beauty.
	Yeah, I'm talking about physical beauty.
	You look like a seven.
	You look like you're.
	You never heard me say a word.
	You're like a former prince, like somebody that used to be a prince back when he was younger.
	Yeah.
	Like you're a seven.
	Yeah.
	Seven.
	I feel the same way.
	It's Mike's guy.
	Did you?
	I feel the same way.
	I feel like you have a lot of features that make a prince.
	And when I watch certain things, I call certain men a prince.
	I feel like you would be a prince.
	I don't know how.
	European beauty.
	You know what?
	Rate Brian instead.
	Do that.
	Let's see if we get closer to a five with Brian.
	I did not realize that I was regal and walked around with a robe and a scepter.
	I did not realize that I was prince.
	But Brian's more peasant material.
	Let's try that.
	That luscious hair and that beard.
	Come on.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	That's exactly what I mean.
	Like, in your eyes.
	I think you have blue eyes.
	Are your eyes blue or am I?
	Look at you smiling.
	Now you're black.
	Stop it, Andrew.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's exactly what I mean.
	All right.
	Brian's eyes are also blue, just so you know.
	Why are you deflecting?
	Just accept.
	Just accept the compliments.
	You're a seven.
	Just take it.
	Do you know, hang on?
	Do you do realize that after hearing so many self-delusional answers from you, all of you, there's no actual way for me to believe that any type of fluffing up of the ego, which you are currently attempting in order to obfuscate from questions, means that it is in any way based in the reality of what you actually think?
	It can't be so because when I ask you what you think of yourselves, the answers are clearly so fucking delusional.
	I don't believe you believe it.
	I don't believe it.
	Put me in a lie detector.
	Put me in a motherfucking lie detector.
	And ask me that dang question again.
	But your preference is a very good question.
	I'll tangle on this for a little bit, Andrew.
	I'll take the reins.
	So, a couple questions here.
	Do you think all women are tens?
	Not every woman, but yeah, I think that a majority of people here today are tens.
	The majority of women here are tens.
	Why don't you guys just skip into the table so you don't have to?
	Yes, sorry.
	I'm trying.
	All right.
	So, what about just women in general?
	I feel like everyone has beauty to them.
	Everyone has something beautiful about them that no one else can be.
	So, do you think, since you're saying all the women here are tens, you're just in terms of looks, you're not better looking than any of the women here?
	Everyone here is just equal in looks.
	I don't say equal, but they all have something that's, I would say, that's more in the middle.
	Yeah, they're different.
	We're different.
	They look different, but in terms of their Burmese thing for the gifted 20, in terms of their features.
	Yeah, some people have blue eyes, some people have blonde hair.
	We get that.
	But, you know, there could be a blonde who's a 10, a brunette who's a 10, and a blonde who's a 7, and a brunette who's a 7.
	Okay.
	Even in that 7, even the 10.
	And so, everyone here is just comparable in terms of their physical attractiveness.
	Yeah, I would say it's in the high 80% tense.
	Like, everyone here has that, have a very beautiful thing about them.
	Everyone's in the what?
	They have somebody, everybody, majority of people here have very beautiful physical features.
	Okay.
	Are you the most attractive girl here?
	Or just everybody's just equal?
	It's not equal.
	It's just everyone has different unique features.
	Yeah, I know they're unique, but like.
	And I wouldn't say that that could equate to that.
	Like, there's no equality towards beauty.
	And she's not saying, like, oh, I'm more beautiful than everyone else here.
	She's saying that everyone has their own beauty.
	Okay.
	I have my own beauty.
	So you'd kind of reject this hierarchy of appearance then?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Okay.
	Do you guys have a height preference?
	Wait, are you?
	Am I going to date with somebody here?
	No, just answer the question.
	Do you have a height preference?
	How tall are you?
	No, I don't have a height preference.
	You don't care?
	How tall are you?
	I'm 5'6.
	And I'm assuming you're 5'6'2.
	She's 5'5 and a half.
	5'5 1 ⁇ 2.
	She's an inch taller.
	Okay, so you're 5'6.
	Do you have a high preference when it comes to men?
	Yeah.
	I prefer tall men, taller men.
	Okay, so what are we talking here?
	What's the minimum?
	6'1?
	6'1.
	Okay, so that puts men.
	That's about the, I believe that's the.
	They have to be in the 10th percentile top 10.
	That's the top 10% of height to be 6'1.
	You've not had a relationship, is that correct?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Of the men that you've dated, even short-term, what was the last guy you dated?
	How tall was he?
	6'2.
	What about the guy before that?
	5'8.
	What about the guy before that?
	5'1.
	Just the two guys.
	Okay, so 6'2'5'8.
	All right.
	And then what about you?
	Last guy you dated?
	Yeah, I would say he was 6'3.
	6'3.
	Okay, so it's interestingly enough, even though.
	So you guys do care about height then?
	Not necessarily, but if it comes with it, then hey, would you date a guy who's shorter than you?
	I don't know.
	It just depends on who he is.
	His character?
	I don't really know.
	It depends on character as well.
	Would he have to make up for it?
	No, the thing is, I wouldn't really, like, height is not a big thing to me.
	It's more like if the energy, the vibe, and everything that's turned into.
	Let's assume the energy is the vibe.
	Everything's perfect, then yeah.
	If everything's going to be a little bit more comfortable.
	Well, not perfect.
	Not perfect.
	Not perfect, but aligning.
	If you're aligning with me, then yeah, I wouldn't mind.
	Yeah, maybe you would date a 5'5 billionaire who's like got a huge pee-pee and his face is perfect and he's the sweetest guy ever.
	Maybe you'll accept dating a short guy then, but I'm just saying, would you date like a normal guy who's 5'5?
	Yeah, if he's still, if we're aligned mentally, physically, like we like to do the same things virtually, like I'm just thinking aligned.
	Conveniently based off physicality, no.
	If that's solely based off physicality, but that's just that's not even something I would do.
	So yeah, but then you don't have a height preference then.
	Didn't you just say you do though?
	You asked me.
	I said I prefer.
	I said that I was after experiencing a taller guy.
	Yeah, it's just nice.
	So you do have a lot of submissive nowadays.
	It's more submissive.
	For me.
	Okay, so you are rank ordering men based on their physical appearance.
	No.
	Because I was with somebody that was basically the same height as me.
	5'8?
	Yeah.
	That's one inch off of the average.
	But my hair.
	What does that have to do with that?
	I'm not 5'8.
	With this hair, we're the same height.
	All right.
	And then what about, are there any other physical like you did an obese guy?
	No.
	No.
	You know, I would not date an obese guy.
	Because of how it looks?
	No, because it's just like there's this, it's kind of haram in my religion to be obese because it's like you have to love your body.
	Love life.
	Take care of your body.
	Take care of yourself.
	If you're not taking care of yourself, if you're naturally just a chubby person, that's fine.
	But if you're obese, that's another thing.
	That's another thing.
	Okay.
	Have you ever known a girl who you've maybe heard of this phenomenon of like a good-looking girl who's dating like a guy who's kind of mid?
	Yeah, an ugly girl.
	Yeah.
	Oh, but so why are you able to make a determination as to a guy's physical appearance?
	But you can't make a determination as to women's physical appearance.
	Because I see women differently than I see men.
	How do you see women differently than you see men?
	I don't look at women's physicality.
	So you objectify men, but you don't objectify.
	I never objectified a man.
	Isn't that exactly what you're doing?
	What am I doing?
	You're objectifying their appearance.
	What did I say?
	That was objectifying the man off his appearance.
	You said, I don't treat women X-way, but I do treat men as well.
	View women, how she views men.
	When she looks at a woman, she notices her beauty.
	Okay, then disregard the objectify comment.
	How are you able to make determinations as to physical appearance when it comes to men, but not women?
	Because I see women differently.
	How do you see this?
	I don't see this, I don't see her as someone I'm going to marry.
	What do you mean?
	I'm not.
	So even if people your own sex, you can't make any determinations as to somebody's like, maybe you can't be a personality.
	But it's not as serious to me when it comes to a woman.
	I just appreciate her beauty.
	I'm not going to sit here and really examine her because she's not someone I'm going to have kids with.
	This is, I'm not going to.
	So if you were a talent agent for modeling agency and knowing that modeling, you know, typically, not always, but typically tends to prefer to have people who are physically attractive and good looking, you would just be incapable of being a lot of models on the market.
	You would just be incapable of making any determinations as to women's physical appearance.
	I actually disagree with you.
	Modeling agencies are not a good idea.
	What do you disagree with?
	Modeling agencies look for different people that look different.
	You don't have to be physically attractive.
	If you look different, they want you.
	You don't have to be beautiful.
	You could look so crazy to other people and everyone could bully you and say that you're ugly as hell the whole time.
	It's 2005 and it's fucking work for Abercrombie and Fitch or whatever.
	They're racist.
	I don't even want to debug them.
	Who cares?
	You work for that company.
	It's 2005 before all this woke bullshit about like putting obese models out there.
	So, okay.
	So you're the talent scout for this company and your job is to find attractive people.
	You would be unable, incapable of making determinations as to women's physical appearance.
	I am.
	Okay.
	So then how is it that you view men and women differently in this regard?
	I'm just saying that like with a woman's beauty, it's just more, it's just different.
	Women have more beauty in this life than a man.
	Like, there's more attractive women than attractive men, in my personal opinion.
	Like, that's what I believe.
	It's like the body, it's the face.
	There's more to notice about a woman and check mark versus a man.
	It's like a woman has way more details.
	A man can be on her body.
	Her physicality is completely different than a man's physicality.
	Yeah.
	What do you mean?
	What's going to make it?
	You don't have to be fit.
	He doesn't have to be fit to have a beautiful person.
	Okay, so just to be clear, all women should view themselves as tens, but not all men should view themselves as 10s.
	I didn't say that.
	The men should see themselves for what they truly believe.
	Should a guy who is mid think he's a 10?
	Guys who are mid do think they're tens.
	No, no, no, that's not the question.
	Should they think they're 10?
	They already do.
	Does it make a difference what I say?
	No, they don't.
	Wait, do you guys agree?
	Is this just a one thing?
	Like, is this just us?
	No, no, no.
	It's not a one thing.
	I do have one quick follow-up question before we move on.
	And this is specifically to you, Italia.
	Just a very simple question.
	Can you put, can you get very close to the mic so I can actually hear your answer?
	Okay.
	How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
	Sassy.
	Okay.
	And then over to your twin, how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
	I would say just weak, like Aggie.
	Okay.
	Your voice is no need.
	Also fair.
	So, where does that question was that?
	Where did I?
	Oh, okay.
	So.
	It's a dumbass meme.
	It's just fun to do every once in a while for no particularly good reason.
	There are people who have trouble engaging in hypotheticals.
	This meme, which by the way, means nothing.
	There's no scientific backing, total meme.
	But it is interesting.
	Many times when I engage with people who can't engage in hypotheticals, if I ask them, how would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning?
	What they end up saying is, but I did eat breakfast this morning, which is, that's what the meme claims they would say.
	No, you didn't say that.
	Oh.
	So wait, so bypass, though, that means I'm not delusional?
	Yes.
	Well, no, no, no.
	Yeah, you just said it.
	You just said it.
	I didn't hear you.
	You said it.
	You said it today.
	It means you can engage in a hypothetical, but you're still fucking delusional.
	I mean, this whole take is completely delusional.
	It makes no sense whatsoever.
	So you got you.
	We were talking about mid dudes, mid-dudes thinking they're tens.
	I feel like everyone would agree with that.
	Would anyone like to chime in?
	Does anyone want to chime in?
	Yeah, so you think that that's wrong, right?
	You don't think that's wrong?
	I'm not even sure.
	You don't think it's wrong?
	What's wrong if your mid-guy thinks he's a 10?
	I don't think that's wrong.
	Like, what's wrong with that?
	Do you think it would indicate perhaps a lack of modesty or self-awareness?
	He probably thinks he's a 10, not because based off of his looks.
	Okay, but he's probably like, oh, I'm a 10 because I got money.
	Okay, it's about looks.
	If a guy who's mid physically, and he was like, my looks, I'm a 10 out of 10 looks.
	He just has conf.
	I feel like that's just confidence.
	Okay, let's say, okay, let's say he has abs.
	Let's say he has, he's six foot, but let's say he has a really big nose.
	Why should he think that that really big nose is ugly?
	Hey.
	Why should he think that that makes sense?
	Hey, that's mean.
	How?
	No, I'm literally saying, like, people get nose surgery because they don't like their nose.
	So I'm trying to use something that's insecure point in the face, which is a nose and the lips.
	So I'm trying to use this point by saying, why should he feel like his nose is ugly?
	Because the community or society will say big noses are ugly.
	Well, it's all about mindset.
	I'll answer your question.
	I think it's a fair question.
	I think it's because beauty standards are derived from your locality and from other people.
	Your perspective on beauty, so here, I'll explain.
	Assume for a second that you grew up in a leper colony and everybody had leprosy.
	If everybody had leprosy and you had nothing else to compare it to, you might consider some lepers to be beautiful.
	But let's assume for a second instead that you grew up in a place where there was no lepers and suddenly you saw one for the first time.
	Go ahead and lie to me and tell me that you wouldn't go, holy fuck, what the God, that's ah!
	Because why would you think it's ugly?
	Why would you be like, oh, wow, that's so interesting?
	Like, I've never seen that before.
	Intriguing, intriguing.
	It's all about perception of what you think of gifts.
	There's only the reason I'm not delusional enough to believe that you for a second would go, oh, half your face was melted off and your tongue is hanging out this side and I can see your entire jaw and your eye also has been plucked out and you look like the dude from Hellraiser except missing half your face.
	I think that you're a 10.
	Come on.
	Really?
	She didn't say that.
	I didn't say that.
	I hate that you guys like that.
	That's why, but that's why people would say, no, you don't adhere to the beauty standard.
	That's why they would do that.
	Okay, well, that's them.
	Like, it has nothing to do with it.
	Yeah, so.
	So people might think the guy with the big nose is mid because he has a big nose.
	That's all based off society, like what you just said.
	It's just perception.
	So going around the table, do you think you're going to be more physically attractive, better looking in 10 years' time as compared to now?
	No.
	Definitely.
	What about 20 years' time?
	Of course.
	So you're 20 now?
	I'm 20.
	So yes to 30, yes to 40.
	Yes.
	50.
	30 years' time?
	Jay love.
	50?
	Yes.
	I stop at 70 because I've seen what my family looks like if they make it to 70.
	So you'll be more physically attractive at 40 than you are now at 20.
	At 30, I believe I will, but I didn't say I would be more physically attractive at 40.
	I said I would still think I'm a 10.
	Okay, so fine.
	You can still think you'll be a 10 at 40, but comparatively speaking, do you think you will be more physically attractive at 30 than you are now at 20?
	Yes.
	Okay, 40 versus 20.
	40?
	No.
	I think 30.
	40 to 30.
	I think 30 would be the greatest one.
	I feel like I would like my looks most at 30.
	I feel like my brain and my body would be fully developed, and I would like that one.
	Okay, so, but not at 40 then?
	I think I would still be beautiful, but not more beautiful.
	What about you?
	Will you be more physically attractive in 10 years than you are now?
	I would hope so, but.
	Well, you're 40 now, so will you be more physically attractive at 50?
	I'm definitely a lot more attractive than when I was in my 30s.
	Okay, that's another question.
	Are you more attractive now at 40 than you were at 30?
	I feel like, yeah, because with all the surgeries that I had going on, I didn't really work.
	I worked out on and off, but my face has stayed the same.
	I think the body has fluctuated up and down, but I love my face, and like I'm seasoned more so now than I was.
	Do you think you're more physically attractive now than you were at 20?
	No, I like my body a lot more 20s.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And you said in 10 years, yes to 20 years.
	I would hope so.
	What about 60?
	I mean, realistically, no, but I have a fear of getting old.
	So I'm like, I keep thinking in my head, I'm still 27.
	And also, just going back to you, you're 36.
	Do you think you're better looking at 26 than you are now at 36?
	I feel like I had a very tacky style.
	I was, so no, but if I had to.
	But the style would have been like time appropriate.
	Right.
	10 years ago.
	Right.
	I mean, so I don't think anybody, just because of skin quality, I'm big on skin quality.
	Unfortunately, I don't think skin quality gets better with age.
	So I think the reality is, is after 30, things just start changing for the course.
	Oh, sorry.
	Go ahead.
	I'm sorry, Brian.
	I did want to interject just briefly because usually there's a follow-up we have with the ratings.
	After we get all of your answers, this type of thing, I was wondering for the two 10 twins in the back, and for the rest of the women on the panel, of course.
	If you were to have the same question directed at you, 1,000 men are rating the girl next to you, what do you think that they would rate them?
	A 10.
	10.
	Yeah, I think that I think she's a beautiful woman.
	Can you guys just very quickly raise your hands if it's a 10?
	If you think 1,000 men who were rating the girl next to you, do you think that they would say it's a 10?
	Just raise your hand so I know.
	Wait, what if it's a 9?
	Can it be average?
	Like 9 or 10.
	8 to 10.
	9 or 10.
	Either one's fine.
	8 to 10.
	Yeah, high score.
	If it's 8 to 10.
	Okay, you know what?
	Even 8 to 10 is fine.
	Just raise your hand if it's an 8 for 10.
	8 out of 10 that they would rate the woman next to you.
	I would rate.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Will you be better looking in 10 years than you are now?
	I think that my prime would probably be my 30s.
	But 40s and stuff?
	Well, you're 24, so will you be, do you think you'll be better looking at 34 than you are now?
	Yeah, I do think that.
	What about 44?
	I would only hope so, but I don't know.
	I really don't know.
	You don't know?
	No, I don't think so.
	Okay, so for you?
	I'm saying no.
	I don't think so.
	I think you're more beautiful.
	Yeah.
	Wait, well, I just think youth in general is more beautiful.
	Okay, so you're better looking now at 24 than you will be at 34.
	I'm also about skin, like she said.
	Okay.
	And then for you, better looking at 29 versus now at 19?
	No.
	No?
	Okay.
	Then for you, better looking at 32 as compared to now at 22?
	Better looking now.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Better looking at 37 versus 27?
	Better looking now.
	Liz, better looking at 35 versus 25?
	Better looking now.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So a couple of you said yes, better looking in 10 years.
	Thought that was an interesting one.
	A little out there.
	I did have a brief question.
	I was just wondering to the gal who has Italia on the shirt.
	Can you just tell me your favorite song?
	I don't have one.
	If you had to pick one.
	I don't want to be put on the spot.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, well, how about your top two?
	What?
	Just name a song you like.
	Oh, I really echo.
	I can't think right now.
	Just any song you really like.
	I do like Spanish music.
	I like Balladi la Sol by Peso Pluma.
	That's my side band, you know.
	And what about your twin?
	I think her favorite song would probably, I don't know, it's an Arabic song.
	What is it?
	Oh, what is it?
	I don't know.
	I don't know the name.
	I just know the song.
	Soundcloud.
	Isn't listening to music haram?
	Like I just, not in the dentist, like, yeah, music is haram.
	Yes, music is haram.
	Listening to music, haram.
	Music is haram, but there's no choice but to hear music.
	Everywhere.
	And out on the street, there is music being played.
	Everywhere you go, there's music.
	There's no when it comes to haram and halal in this modern day and age, because we're not living in the 18th century, if someone listens to more music than they do holy verses, then that would be considered haram.
	Yeah.
	It's not a same.
	We have I think so you know I just want to I just want to make sure you guys you guys would never lie to me, right?
	You don't listen to music, right?
	I don't care who judges me.
	I don't have to be perfect.
	Islam is not bad.
	I have to be a perfect Muslim.
	No, I just have to be the best I do.
	I just want to make sure I'm correct.
	You're not doing haram and listening to music, right?
	I wouldn't say so because I would say I would have an equal amount of like, I listen to.
	But I do say music is not like the best of things.
	But I would say, honestly, I can't say that because I would just say, like, I personally do listen to music.
	Who doesn't listen to music?
	But I don't listen to it frequently.
	I don't listen to it.
	Every day we would play a verse of the Quran.
	Every day that's being played.
	Music?
	When I go out, I'll listen to music.
	I don't listen to music when I'm out.
	You don't pump it in your apartment.
	Come on.
	Do you pump it?
	No, but when I'm outside, I don't listen to music.
	Like, I do listen to music, but in my tradition, how I was raised, I never listened to music in the home.
	So I don't know.
	In the home, yeah, in the home, it's like a virtuality piece.
	All right, all right.
	I was just wondering what I'm saying.
	But music is haram, right?
	I just want to make sure that's clear.
	It is haram.
	He's so annoying.
	Oh, am I?
	Yes.
	Is it awful that you have to confront your own cognitive music?
	I'm totally fine.
	I'm not saying that.
	No, I wouldn't say so, not in this modern day and age.
	Yes, I would say it is haram, but to a degree.
	And she would say it is haram.
	Can you guys even agree on if it's haram or not?
	I would say to a degree.
	It's haram, but she's not going to get to a harmony.
	I think overall said that her first answer was what I agree with.
	I feel like I get to hear a yes or no from you two.
	Because the questions aren't impossibility, right?
	You can't just say yes or no.
	Okay, so to kind of wrap it up here on the whole like rating yourself thing.
	So I actually think it's more important for women to have an accurate self-assessment of their own physical attractiveness as compared to men.
	Something we talk about almost every single show.
	And here's the reason why.
	So if I'm a man and I'm delusional and I think I'm a 10 and I step to a girl who's a 10, I'm getting rejected every single time.
	If I step to a girl, like the way men get rejected is up front immediately.
	I can't like if I step to a girl who's frankly out of my league, I'm cut off of everything.
	I can't get anything from her.
	I can't get a date.
	I can't get a conversation.
	I certainly can't get casual sex.
	Now with bringing up casual sex, I think you might know where I'm about to lead to.
	You as women can secure casual sex from men who are outside of your league, whether that's status, whether that's looks, whether that's personality.
	You guys can sleep with men who are outside of your league.
	They'll never give you commitment.
	And that's precisely why it's more important for women to be based in reality when it comes to their looks than men, although it ultimately doesn't matter.
	Because even if a man is delusional, he's just going to get curved and rejected by girls who are out of his league.
	So what ends up happening is you think your league is the men you sleep with.
	That's actually not true.
	Your league as women is the men that you can get commitment from and that you can get a ring from.
	That's your league.
	So an average 19-year-old chick who's just good looking can fuck a famous rapper, an athlete.
	Doesn't mean you can get commitment.
	Doesn't mean you can get commitment.
	The difference here is, is that as a man, if I can sleep with a girl, there's a very good chance I can get her in a relationship.
	I can't say the same thing about women.
	Just because you can sleep with a guy doesn't mean you can get him into a relationship.
	So that's why I think it's important to be like, hmm, am I fucking with a guy outside my league?
	If I think I'm a 10, because you'll think you're entitled to a relationship with a guy who's out of your league, but really he's just using you, which I object to.
	I don't think that's right.
	But you got to move in the world how it is.
	And the way it is, is you're going to have hyper-attractive guys who just want sex from you.
	And if that's the current dating meta, and you think you're hot shit, you think you're a 10, you think you're a baddie, but you can't get commitment from all these dudes.
	Could be that you're shooting outside of your league and you're curving the dudes who are actually on your level, who'd be prepared to give you commitment, who'd be loyal, who'd treat you well.
	And that's why you end up hearing all these women complaining about all these fuckboys.
	They just want to fuck.
	They don't want commitment.
	There's plenty of, there's probably dudes who'd be prepared to commit to you.
	You just think, you're just curving them because you think I'm fucking this guy who's this attractive.
	This other guy over here wants to give me commitment, but I'm not attracted to him because I can fuck this guy who's really attractive.
	Ryan won't give me a bad diet.
	Don't ever bring no sewer at Arabs on here again.
	Oh, bro, I got to skip it.
	Bro, come on.
	Come on, Mike Davis.
	You can't say that, bro.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Mike Davis.
	Appreciate it, bro.
	That was a good call there, Nick.
	Might I extend to Mr. Davis, though, that I do appreciate the $200 dono and completely agree with you, but I, you know, you can't play the super chat.
	TOS.
	Okay.
	Burmese Mountain Tiger, thank you for the gifted 20 subs.
	Appreciate it, though.
	I mean, Mike Davis, I appreciate your patronage.
	Just we got to be careful with TOS here, man.
	Okay, cool.
	So where was I?
	I think I pretty much made my point, but yeah.
	I guess just news flash, really attractive fuckboys will sleep with average mid-girls, and average mid-girls think that's my league.
	Think I can get that guy, and they'll just keep falling from dick to dick to dick, thinking they can get that guy in a relationship, but they can't.
	And then the guys who are actually in their league, in their level, y'all just curving these dudes who like are in your league and who are prepared to commit to you, give you, et cetera.
	So, Burmese Mountain Tiger, thank you for the gifted 20 subs.
	Appreciate it, bro.
	Do you guys disagree?
	I don't know.
	Maybe.
	So you guys disagree?
	No, women don't fuck dudes outside of their league.
	Never happens.
	No, women, no, average mid-girls don't have access to like famous rappers and musicians.
	Like famous, I'm telling you, famous women don't ever fuck with like, I mean, it happens rarely, but like they're usually dealing with like guys on their level.
	But like who, what makes you feel so confident?
	Like who are you to say that to a woman?
	Like what do you mean?
	You're going based off of physicality again and again.
	What he's saying is facts.
	Like women can always get sex.
	It doesn't matter.
	Yeah, that's yeah, that part is correct, but not the part that actually has to do with physicality.
	He's saying, oh, a handsome guy is not going to get with a girl that's physically ugly.
	I see so many rich, handsome men end up marrying a woman that's not even as physically attractive to them.
	She's like not even at that level.
	She's just like a cute, normal, regular girl.
	So are you absolutely not a person?
	So you're advertising that women should just stay in their place and not go for the man that they want.
	And then if you have someone that you want and then they are righteous man, they're a righteous leader to you, go for it.
	No matter what he wants to do.
	Okay, so this is what happens.
	This is what happens typically.
	So you have like huge, huge swaths of women who throughout their 20s are chasing after these hyper attractive men.
	They'll spend their 20s fucking attractive dudes, never getting commitment.
	Because I've been fucking all these men.
	That's why this is once they're 30, oh, okay, let me settle down.
	And it makes for a terrible marriage because she thinks she's settling, but it's actually a dude in her league.
	She's going to treat that guy like shit.
	She's going to resent him.
	Wasn't able how it's her karma to ruin a dude's life because she couldn't get the fucking hyper successful dudes who she could fuck in her prime.
	Who's the leader in the relationship?
	What does that mean?
	He's choosing her.
	If he's choosing her, that's his thoughts.
	That's nothing to do with anything.
	Can you finish your thoughts?
	I want to see where you're going with it.
	Well, I sort of got cut off here, but I was basically just responding to her.
	Like that's what's happening.
	Y'all, y'all know how is it false knowledge you're not even using like a statistical basis.
	You're using your opinionated statements to say that women should only talk to these certain men.
	If you're going to sleep around, then do this.
	Like you're going to use and abuse if you're going to go for a hyper attractive male.
	And I just think that's not a positive thing to say or a factual evident thing to say because there's no evidence based on that.
	There's no evidence that fuckboys exist.
	But that doesn't mean he's hyper attractive.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Who wants a fuckboy?
	It's all about energy.
	It's all about everything.
	Not just fucking.
	All girls complain about fuckboys after they get fucked by them.
	But he doesn't mean that.
	There's some girls like she thinks, oh, he's hot.
	And I'm like, that guy is so ugly.
	Yeah, we don't have the same hyper attractive of what it is.
	Yes, sure.
	People have differences.
	But like, there are some men that like vast swaths of women will tend to agree that those men are really physically attractive.
	In fact, you're saying this is just opinion.
	Dating apps have released this data.
	Women swipe on only like the top 10% of men on those dating apps.
	So these dating apps where women are basically essentially making assessments almost near exclusively or purely just on looks.
	And it seems to be the case that.
	So do you guys agree with that?
	Shut the fuck up and let me finish my point.
	God damn, you keep fucking interrupting.
	Holy shit, dude.
	Okay, so how could it be the case then?
	Hey, what's this side combo back there?
	They're still whispering behind your back.
	That's mean.
	Yeah, in any case, you've been interrupting all night, and it's just you got to let people finish their point.
	So, okay.
	How could it be the case then that there's a cohort of men on dating apps that get almost all of the attention on the dating apps and they're running through chicks?
	This is just a whatever podcast.
	Like, you're not saying anything.
	Like, I'm saying whatever.
	Oh, here's whatever, whatever, whatever.
	It's nothing good.
	It's just all this bullshit's hurting my brain.
	It's just like, oh.
	Yeah, your high-vibrational brain that can't understand facts.
	You're not speaking high vibration.
	You're speaking low vibrational brains.
	You're fucking low vibration.
	I said what you're speaking is low vibration.
	You just cursed at me.
	I never even cursed at nobody up in here.
	So I just.
	No, there's more than one way to be rude to somebody, and you're constant interrupting.
	Wait, there is no curse.
	It's like arguing to argue.
	It's like, that's the thing that's getting frustrating.
	I think we're all tired.
	None of us have energy because you literally argue to just fucking argue.
	Like the answer is simple yes or fucking no.
	And then you want to argue and it's like getting tiring because I don't even have the energy to interject, because I'm fucking over it because like, he asks you literally a question and you're like, but this is a.
	It's like, oh my gosh, you are illusion.
	Just answer yes or no.
	Let's keep it on topic and let's have great conversations.
	Yeah, because none of us want to get involved anymore.
	Yeah, you guys are not arguing you are you literally arguing my point of view?
	Yeah, but here's the thing, you don't finish you, you don't let them finish.
	Everyone's been respectful.
	You don't let them finish and you just want to like literally respond.
	To respond.
	It's like combative, it's I hate to say this like us Middle Eastern women, our women, are like so combative that it's like you have to prove your point.
	You don't have to prove your point.
	It's a conversation.
	Listen to what he's saying.
	Half of the time, andrew's saying exactly what you're saying, but you're not even listening to him.
	I am just like literally just just talking to talk.
	That's a lot of times.
	That's not true.
	You're talking, i'm still talking because you keep listening.
	No, i've been doing all night.
	Just learn to listen for a second.
	As a woman, it's nice to shut the fuck up something you aren't even understanding.
	What the god Literally, sometimes it's the power.
	Huh?
	No, it's okay.
	I'm just not going to hear you talking about that.
	No, that's fine.
	It's exhausting.
	My God.
	You can do what you want.
	That's why you're in the prediction of the ring.
	Fuck, it's exhausting to listen to the same shit.
	Well, he was calling on her multiple times.
	You kept saying the girl with the Italia or whatever.
	It's because she just wants to argue over nothing.
	Because none of us communicate with them.
	Nobody else is speaking up.
	That's fucking fault.
	It's because it's exhausting when it's like the same shit.
	They want to argue.
	I'm not going to leave it.
	Okay, then that's fine.
	Then leave it talking to you.
	Leave it alone.
	Then just leave it.
	Leave it alone.
	Leave it alone.
	What?
	They can't have an actual conversation.
	We haven't had a new conversation the whole night because they want to hold.
	We were trying to, but they want to run out.
	So it's literally simple.
	If you want to have a conversation, you listen, you reciprocate, you understand each other's points.
	It's like just to say to because you want to voice out what you want to say.
	It's like to want to be heard.
	That's just ridiculous.
	No, fuck that.
	Weren't those chicks your ride, bro?
	No, first of all, I drove them here.
	We sleep from Los Angeles, LA.
	How are we doing, California?
	No, are they really leaving, though?
	Because then I just want to say that.
	No, they can't leave.
	Yeah, dude, where they at?
	They walked out, bro.
	They walked out.
	Burmese, thank you for the gifted 10 cents.
	What?
	They rage quit?
	Yeah, it was a rage quit.
	See, that's the thing.
	Like, that's literally the childish shit.
	If you're going to run your mouth all day and then somebody checks you, you're going to run out.
	That's bitch moves.
	Sit down and take it.
	Didn't they?
	And they keep talking and talking and talking.
	Didn't they call Andrew Dick?
	Which is ridiculous.
	Like, I honestly have been falling asleep just listening to it because I'm like, my brain literally grabbed my eyes.
	I'm like, should I like go check on them?
	No, you're the power.
	You have all the leverage and all the power.
	Yo, Burmese mountain tiger.
	Thank you for the gift.
	It's all about having power, though.
	You got all the leverage.
	I feel like I just got to.
	Oh, they're chilling, bro.
	They went to go get the smoothie.
	I literally feel like I just got my energy back.
	I know.
	I'm like, fuck.
	No, seriously.
	Here's the thing.
	Like, I'm all for a debate.
	W's in the chat.
	Oh, sorry.
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	I didn't mean to interrupt.
	No, no, I don't know what they're.
	I'm saying, like, I'm all for, like, I mean, I love watching this show and it's like a debate back and forth.
	But, like, even the ones I've watched, people, like, women just listen.
	They don't listen to anything that you've said.
	They just want to talk.
	It's like, I just want you to literally have asked 50.
	I get it.
	But when somebody asks you, you answered like a normal person.
	He's like, hey, rate yourself.
	Or it's a yes or no question.
	You simple say yes or no.
	Well, I don't know.
	The fucking sky is blue.
	So I think my answer, my special.
	It is special, but here's the thing.
	There's topics to be passionate about, and there's, you just want to fucking argue about everything.
	That's exhausting.
	I'm just passionate about everything.
	Okay.
	That's okay.
	No.
	I'm passionate about it, but I'm not ignorant.
	I just fucking want to talk out of nothing.
	Like, literally, I don't need to prove my point.
	It's whatever.
	It's whatever.
	Yeah.
	It's whatever.
	Yo, W, W for you, though, for coming to my defense.
	Granted, probably shouldn't have told her to shut the fuck up, but she was fucking interesting.
	I mean, you said it for all of us.
	I feel like, here's the thing: you're patient.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, I didn't.
	Yeah.
	I thought that was a passion.
	No, I was getting a little bit.
	Just a little bit of time.
	No, you have to be a little bit more.
	I mean, it's not, but here's the thing.
	You have been very patient.
	I feel like you don't lose your temper.
	If you were losing your temper, like, I think we all were making eye contact.
	We were all exhausted.
	Like, Andrew's just the only one that has the energy to go back and forth.
	We're just literally tired because we're like, I don't want to, I don't want to even interject and talk to anyone because it's like the same conversation, same thing going back and forth.
	It's like, I want to leave.
	Can we have our new guests introduce themselves?
	I'm Madison.
	I'm Morgan.
	The faces of women.
	Okay, cool.
	Wow, that was a good time.
	Rage quit, major rage quit.
	I feel like the vibration just raised in this corner.
	Vibrations have.
	Yeah, but I still don't understand.
	Perhaps you can enlighten me.
	Why exactly did they go?
	I just generally don't know what to do.
	We've had some really contentious women, whatever.
	I felt a struggle.
	That was not one of them.
	Just Gerald.
	Well, okay.
	I said the words, shut the fuck up.
	And then I said as well.
	I said, what did I say?
	Hold on.
	Shut the fuck up, okay?
	Shut the fuck up.
	I said it like that.
	That was kind of crazy, yo.
	I said, she said it too.
	I didn't tell her.
	I said, as a woman, there's a time that you need to learn to shut the fuck up and listen.
	That is very true.
	Come on, picnic dress.
	You've been a savage the whole night.
	You don't give a fuck about somebody saying some shit.
	You don't care.
	I do.
	That's what I've been trying to do.
	Because you're having a good combo.
	So what actually led up to this, that I don't really understand.
	We have had way more brutal combos with people on whatever.
	I mean, way more.
	I just felt like.
	I'm actually surprised they rage, bro.
	Nickelodeon too much.
	Drop the mic, babe.
	Kick me up.
	I got another pearl necklace for you.
	Dribble.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pirate.
	Dude, Nickelodeon, you're a legend.
	Really good to see you back in the chat, man.
	Thank you for your patronage.
	Thank you for the dono TTS.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Dribble, dribble, dribble.
	Is that like drizzle, drizzle or some shit?
	Okay, well, I should leave.
	Is it because of the message?
	No, I should leave because I brought them here.
	You've been awesome.
	Why are you going to let them mess you up?
	You've had a great night.
	Should we try to get them back?
	Yeah.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Like, I come back.
	Like, we have all your ears.
	I got an idea.
	Stay there.
	Hold on.
	I think I know where they are.
	One set.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Now, picnic dress.
	Okay.
	I get it.
	All of you have been chilling together the entire evening.
	But there was nothing there that warranted a rage with.
	Come on.
	No, I feel like.
	Like, you've been having fun most of the night.
	We've been having a good spar back and forth.
	No, I feel like everyone was attacking.
	Hang on, into the mic, or I can't hear her.
	I feel like everyone was attacking the fact that they were defending their points of views.
	I mean, if nobody else is going to say anything, then why tell someone else to shut the fuck up?
	Like, I feel like speak the fuck up instead of telling other women to shut the fuck up.
	I'm telling you, that's not what it is.
	I feel like I feel like that's the greatest.
	I just want to let you know, picnic dress.
	I just want to let you know.
	That's the thing I respected the most.
	That they did defend their point of view.
	Exactly.
	That they did hit back.
	That they said, fuck off, Andrew.
	I'm right about this.
	And I was like, yeah, let's do this.
	That's the thing that makes me the happiest.
	That's why I don't get it because they were clearly having a good time.
	So what was the trigger?
	You tell me.
	Everyone keeps it.
	What was the thing that shut the fuck up?
	I love the fact that they spoke their mind.
	My issue is picking at every single thing is not everything.
	Hang on, blue dress.
	Let picnic dress answer.
	I'm asking her.
	That's their buddies, right?
	You've had bass takes.
	I'm not going to disagree.
	You've had bass takes the whole night, but let her respond.
	It's because they're answering questions the way they need to respond.
	Like when you guys ask us a question, it's very hard for a person with a very open mind to just say yes or no because the question is deeper and it's manipulative.
	And if you're able to just answer it yes or no, then that's okay.
	But there's also forces of powers that make you want to dig deeper.
	And if you don't dig deeper, then you should shut the fuck up.
	Like, I don't see why they had to shut the fuck up because they were able to decipher everything that was put in front of them and everything that was asked to them.
	We were able to dig deeper and figure out what's really going on.
	And it's just like, I don't understand why that's like something that we're drawing each other apart from.
	Like, I feel like that should build us all up.
	Like, we should all be asking more questions.
	We should all be answering differently instead of just yesterday.
	Let me see if I can.
	We should be fighting.
	When he was talking about women's rights, hang on, one point at a time.
	We got to do one point at a time.
	We should be learning.
	We should be picnic dress.
	Hang on a second.
	I'm sorry.
	Let's do one.
	We'll do one point at a time, okay?
	We'll do one point at a time.
	I agree that absolutely, if somebody is having a good faith exchange, they should not be silenced, anything of the sort.
	But can you agree with me that things are either going to be true or they're not going to be true, right?
	It can't be both.
	It can't be an in-between.
	Either it's true or it's not true.
	I keep seeing you.
	That has to be true, right?
	Hydrate.
	I hydrate.
	This is one of those questions where you can't.
	No, It's not a trick question.
	It really isn't.
	I'll explain it to you.
	One of the laws of logic.
	H2O.
	Right?
	We're talking about the law of excluded middle.
	It's true or it's not true.
	It can't be both.
	It can't be in between.
	If I make a statement to you, I am X feet tall.
	If I'm not X feet tall, that was not true.
	And if I am, that was true, right?
	It has to be that way, doesn't it?
	These questions aren't that simple, though, and you know that.
	Well, I'm willing to hear how it could be possible that somebody could tell both a truth and a falsehood at the same time.
	I am willing to listen.
	I want to learn.
	If you can tell me or possibly explain to me in any world you could ever envision how somebody could tell me a truth which was actually a lie, I want to hear it.
	It's not that a truth is actually a lie.
	I think that even when you ask us these questions, you have a certain expectation on what you want us to say regardless of what we say.
	Yeah, but it might seem like a false fault.
	Even though we are telling our own truths, so wait, your own truth is different than the truth.
	So what if your own truth was that when you look behind you, it didn't say whatever, it said whoever.
	And I said, no, that says whatever.
	Only one of us could be right, correct?
	That's a question that only one of us could be correct.
	But the questions that you're asking are things that are not that are about more mentality things.
	Hang on, hang on, back up, back up, back up, hang on, hang on.
	People look physically.
	Back up, back up, Becca.
	If only one of us could be correct, which one of us would be correct?
	If you said it said whoever, and I said it said whatever, who is actually correct?
	Is it old English, Andrew?
	No, it's modern English.
	Who is actually correct?
	Is it Middle English, Andrew?
	No, Middle English.
	You know what I'm talking about, and it's whatever.
	It's whatever.
	Is that the truth?
	Rage quit.
	Another rage.
	No, don't rage quit.
	Get back.
	You can't leave.
	We were in the middle of an exchange.
	All right.
	If I'm going to be here, they're going to be here.
	If they're not going to be here.
	Well, tell them to come back.
	Tell them to come back.
	Yeah, Nick.
	We're having a good exchange.
	You can go help convince.
	You can go help convince Nick.
	I can go talk to them.
	Nick will come with you and he'll help convince.
	I don't think Donald will help you.
	He'll help convince.
	I mean, I don't want to think against him.
	Like, literally, I love the way they're going to be.
	Yeah, you can stay.
	You can stay.
	That is a power move, though.
	She did try.
	Like, you can't really rage quit, really, if you can't leave.
	Anyways, okay, Burmese Mountain Tiger.
	Thank you for all the gifted subs, man.
	You're a fucking legend, dude.
	You are a legend.
	Oh, can you pull up Twitch really quick?
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	If you enjoy seeing people rage quit off the show after I tell them to shut the fuck up, please drop us a follow and a drop a community.
	Drop a prime.
	Boys, it's been big T, bro.
	Guys, it was almost 16 minutes since we last got a prime, but thankfully, Big T he made sure it wasn't bugged.
	Drop us a Prime sub, boys, if you, you know, you enjoy us as content creators.
	You want to see us do more?
	We need your support over there on Twitch.
	Okay, let me get in.
	We got to get through all my pre-show notes.
	There's a lot of pre-show notes.
	Okay, hang on.
	Prince Andrew does not appreciate this.
	Prince Andrew, who is regal, who has a cape, does not appreciate it.
	Remember earlier, I was referred to as a prince, Brian.
	Oh, yes.
	Your Majesty.
	Your Majesty.
	I don't approve.
	I don't approve of the rage quit.
	Yeah.
	You know, there's this Bill Burr.
	I've mentioned this before.
	There's this Bill Burr bit where if a woman's right in an argument, she'll stick to the point and she'll beat you.
	But if she's wrong, she'll like talk about other shit, try to rile you up until she pisses you off and then you call her a bitch and then she just gets mad that you called her a bitch.
	And then now you're in the wrong.
	And then now you're in the wrong.
	So you're saying that women never win arguments.
	That's what you're saying.
	No, they win.
	They win them a lot.
	It's because they beat you until you're tired, and you're like, fine, you win.
	I'm going to find the clip, this Bill Burr clip, because it's really good.
	What is this whole you're tired thing?
	You keep bringing this up.
	What time is it there?
	It's like 10.
	10, 10.
	Right?
	My brain just hurts from the bottom.
	It's 10 o'clock.
	What do you go to bed?
	Do you go?
	Do you get in your walker?
	Do you grab your walker at 10 o'clock and you're like, oink, I got to get over to my bed.
	I got to wheel myself over to my bed and go to sleep at 10 o'clock at night?
	No, normally if I sit still for this long, it's either I'm getting my hair done, I'm doing something, just sitting there listening.
	I know, but like, that's the thing.
	I kind of want to go bring them back.
	Like, I love their argument, but it's like them being passionate.
	But seriously, just everything was just an argument that's like, I don't even want to interject anymore to talk.
	So you get tired when you're just sitting here staring at people back and forth arguing.
	Word.
	True.
	Let me get into my pre-show notes.
	So did we go all the way around on her hard nose?
	Did everybody have a hard no?
	You said funny if the guy's not funny.
	Yeah.
	That's like deal breaker if he's not.
	Yeah.
	I think you're gonna be.
	Are you funny?
	I don't know.
	I wouldn't say so.
	Would you object to a guy like disqualifying you because of your lack of humor?
	What are you talking?
	What do you mean?
	Huh?
	Can you repeat?
	Would you object to a guy disqualifying you because you lacked humor?
	I wouldn't object that.
	You'd be fine with it.
	Yeah.
	That chick's not funny.
	I'm not going to date her.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's fine.
	That's fair.
	That's fair.
	Although you typically don't hear men disqualifying or caring about if a woman's funny.
	Yeah.
	Because I'm fun.
	She's so hot and attractive, but she's just not funny.
	I guess I won't have sex with her.
	Because she couldn't make me laugh.
	Won't have sex with her.
	Won't date her.
	Okay, we have Naomi, Psycho X, went to prison for stalking you.
	Yeah.
	Super toxic, gave you an STD.
	What?
	And told your parents first?
	Wait, what the?
	Yeah, he told my parents first.
	So, I mean, do you want the whole story?
	Wait, he told your parents first about the STD?
	Before you told me, yeah.
	Damn.
	I know.
	Messed up, right?
	Wait, he gave you an STD or you gave it to me?
	No, it was not me, I promise.
	What was the STD?
	It was Chlamydia, so I'm cured.
	Don't worry, guys.
	We're cured.
	What do you mean?
	What do you mean?
	Don't worry.
	I wasn't confused.
	Well, that's true.
	You would have helped me worry.
	On your behalf, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	You're not wrong.
	So, a short version, I guess?
	Yeah, so we were just together for it seemed like forever, but I think it was only a year and a half total year.
	My parents had eventually stepped in.
	I was 16, almost 17.
	And they just at some point were like, this is awful.
	It's toxic.
	Just lots of fighting.
	It just wasn't good.
	He was an awful guy.
	And I think I was just trying to repair him.
	I'm kind of a fixer.
	So I eventually, my parents made us break up.
	And of course, I didn't listen.
	And so I eventually continued to talk to him for a few weeks.
	However, when I realized he was a little psycho, was when I was, I'll never forget.
	It was a Sunday.
	My mom and I were hanging out.
	Obviously, I'm not going to talk to my mom or talk to my boyfriend while my mom is with me.
	And he asked why I was shopping with her, why I was at the mall.
	And so that's when I kind of realized he was a little crazy.
	So I ended things, broke things off.
	Well, that's when he went more crazy.
	I really hope he's watching.
	So he started smashing my windows in.
	My parents' tires went flat.
	Like he was sending like death threats to my parents, myself, where I was working, just like all the crazy things.
	At this point, the cops were involved, but nothing had physically happened, like no physical altercations or anything.
	So they just were at this point were building a case.
	But right before I decided to break things off with him, is just when I realized he was cheating on me, which is really dumb because there were so many signs.
	I mean, my parents saw him out with other women in town, and I was just delusional.
	I'm like, he's not cheating on me.
	There's no way.
	Yeah, he was.
	So, yeah, it was bad.
	Mayford great memoirs for my senior year, though, in high school.
	So it's fine.
	But yeah, we ended up breaking things off and he got convicted on he had other charges as well, but they were able to charge him with first-degree stalking too.
	Yikes.
	Yikes.
	Yeah.
	You said that women nowadays, in your opinion, are unrealistic and have such high expectations.
	So the whole world we live in honestly is super fucked.
	Your words, not mine.
	Do you care to expand on that?
	I just think that I think, I mean, I'm not old.
	I'm young still, so obviously I can't say back in the day, but I do think there was something before online dating and creating this like idea in our heads of maybe social media has a play into this, but just of what the perfect man or woman is supposed to be.
	And I think there's a lot to be said to people who can meet, they meet each other organically, they grow together, they become a better version of themselves.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I just think saying like, I want my husband to make X amount of dollars every year and he has to be this tall and he has to be this.
	And if he doesn't check all the check marks, then he's not even worth trying for or even trying to put in time and see if that's a relationship that is worth your while.
	So that's just my opinion.
	No one's perfect and I think we all have room to grow.
	So.
	And going back to the guy you dated, was that the guy you dated for two years when you were younger?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	The high school dropout.
	Yep, yep.
	Gangster considered himself.
	Let me read this.
	Everyone tell their best joke.
	There were two muffins in an oven.
	And one muffin looks over and says, Hugh, it's hot in here.
	The other muffin looks back and says, Holy crap, a talking muffin.
	Okay.
	Thank you, kill of cereal.
	That was a good joke.
	It's good.
	Give it like a seven out of ten, you know?
	Best joke.
	Anyone got a joke?
	I want to hear a joke from you.
	No, I ain't got none.
	You got none?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Hmm.
	Anybody?
	Madison?
	I just have the oh yeah.
	Fireworks.
	Not really funny.
	Can you see them in the window, guys?
	I don't know if they can.
	Can you see that, guys?
	Fireworks.
	Oh my god.
	Fabulous.
	I'm just waiting for the fireworks then so I can.
	It's kind of loud.
	It's kind of loud in the studio, boys.
	God damn, what the fuck is Nick doing, bro?
	You gotta get the sale or move on.
	He's in.
	He's back?
	Are they?
	I brought one.
	Always are looking.
	What do you mean, maybe?
	They had a big.
	I said, bring the pizza.
	Oh, my.
	We gotta bring it back.
	They're coming back.
	Okay, well, I'm gonna try to get through the pre-show.
	I gotta get through the pre-show notes before they're back because that's just gonna take fucking forever.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	Okay, you were dating the crazy dude.
	Stalking, yep.
	Terrible, very bad, not cool.
	Stalking, don't stalk.
	Man or woman?
	Woman or man?
	Don't stalk people.
	Fucked up.
	Just move on.
	Get plenty of fish in the sea.
	Hold on.
	Just trying to get through the notes here.
	You said you.
	Oh, we already did that.
	Unrealistic expectations, has to make so much money, buy certain things, has to be tall fit, etc.
	But what do they bring to the table?
	How about we do that?
	We'll go around the table.
	What?
	Did we kind of do this already?
	We did.
	We kind of did.
	Yeah, like the what do you bring to the table?
	But it was like within the context of marriage.
	So, oh, welcome back.
	Boom.
	Anti-I don't know if this is a first, a walk back.
	Rage quit.
	It was reverse.
	Friendship quit.
	Yeah, you weren't so much a rage quit.
	The two girls might have been.
	We have Sam here.
	Also, Idaho.
	You want to talk about dating in Idaho?
	Is that?
	Dating in Idaho?
	I don't think I put that on there.
	Oh, okay.
	I think I put something about online dating.
	You said, yeah, relationships are disposable.
	Divorce rates are at an all-time high.
	It seems like half of the women I come across have done or do OF seeking arrangements, but they can't find a good man and all men suck.
	That's what you're saying.
	That's what they say.
	Yeah, that's not what I'm saying.
	Yeah.
	Going around the table, what do you think of men starting with you?
	Actually, starting with you.
	Wait, can you elaborate on how I get in?
	Just Tad, what do you think of men?
	I think that a lot of the men I have come across right now in this time have been very much money mindset made.
	I would love to meet more men that are more focused on morals and integrity and independence rather than just getting money.
	I feel like a lot of men are just only money is on their mind and I feel like there's a lot more to be focused on.
	I wouldn't say don't focus on money, but I want to say I think men only focus on that, and I would love to see a man who focuses on more.
	That's beautiful.
	Touching.
	It was touching.
	Okay.
	So what do you think of men in general, I guess?
	Do we need men?
	Yes, we definitely do need men.
	Okay.
	Why?
	Are you asking me?
	Going around the table on it.
	What do you think of men?
	I love men.
	I feel like it's the balance of the world.
	There are protectors, and it's definitely needed for the world to grow.
	I think a lot of I have two brothers, so they're definitely an inspiration to me.
	My dad, he's the rock of the family.
	So I definitely love, I don't think I would like a world without bed in it.
	I think a lot of the grown men in my life are great.
	Yeah, your answer could just be like, men are great.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, perfect.
	I think most men are cool.
	Yeah.
	I don't see a problem with men.
	You don't see a problem with men.
	Well, like, their existence, I don't really see a problem with it.
	But you're like, it could go either way.
	Like, they could be here, they could not.
	I wouldn't really.
	Well, if they weren't here, I feel like the world would burn.
	Like, I feel like we need men is like something that we need in our lives.
	Okay.
	They're the yin-tar yang, and yeah, they're great.
	We need them.
	At the end of the day, there's just good people and bad people out there.
	It doesn't matter the gender.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Men are great.
	Yeah, they're pretty great.
	Sweet.
	Going back to Sam, you said you haven't dated around a lot, but your ex-boyfriend of three years was the 2x felon drug dealer.
	Also, I think he had a porn addiction, which I feel like is a common problem with our culture.
	Yeah, I'll keep it short, but me and that guy, we dated for three years.
	And towards the end of our relationship, I did find out that he was watching a lot of adult content.
	And a lot of people that I've kind of talked to this about are basically are just like, you know, it's not that big of a deal.
	And I could argue that, but at the same time, I think having that mentality is what's led us into this culture of, you know, normalizing everybody doing OF and posting half-naked pictures on Instagram and things like that.
	So I don't think it should be so normalized.
	And yeah, but I don't know how much more you want me to go into it.
	Oh, that's fine.
	I'm kind of confused.
	The tattoo on your arm?
	I can't figure out what it is.
	Which one?
	The one that I can see.
	Yeah.
	Well, actually, all of them kind of look similar.
	They just look like squiggly lines.
	Yeah.
	What's going on there?
	It's some abstract art that I saw a few years ago, and I really liked it.
	And it just never left my mind.
	So I decided to get it tattooed on me.
	I just like art.
	And then the other one is like, honestly, a basic white girl tattoo.
	It's a dragon and a flower.
	Yeah, the dragon and a flower I get.
	Yeah.
	But the art, what is it about that that stood out?
	I don't know.
	I think it looked cool.
	I do a lot of abstract art myself.
	I like to draw with sharpies and it just reminds it.
	It was similar to the kind of stuff that I draw.
	So I just really, really liked it.
	And yeah.
	Okay.
	I do have a question here.
	Hold on.
	It is.
	Where did I write it?
	Starting with Lizzie over here.
	What do you think men want?
	I feel like men ultimately want to be respected and listened to, but that's just my short answer of it.
	Okay.
	Okay, so that kind of sounded like you were parroting what our blue dress friend over here said.
	I'm just saying.
	Well, her and I have a lot of the same views, so do you?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Let's try to just get everyone's answer here.
	So I think men are looking for a partner in life, and that could be emotional support, physical support, just kind of all of that.
	Go ahead and answer the questions, guys.
	But yeah, just emotional support, a partnership, someone that they can share their life with and grow as a couple.
	Yeah, pretty much the same.
	Just someone who supports you, is there for you, you know, to an extent, takes care of you, will carry your children, things like that.
	Yeah, just overall a partner who will be there for you like no one else will.
	I agree.
	I think trust and respect.
	And yeah, I don't know how peace for you to be quiet.
	A good mother, a good mother to future children.
	A good cook, too.
	Wait, wait, picnic dress.
	Picnic dress.
	You're back.
	I knew you would be back.
	I knew you would be back.
	Where are the other two?
	Apparently they're coming.
	They're coming.
	They all know where they are.
	They're coming back.
	All right.
	Awesome, though.
	Are they coming with the pizza?
	I think so.
	I'm hungry.
	Okay.
	They're bringing pizza?
	Did they get it forever?
	I don't know.
	It's like a singular pizza and we're all just a slice.
	It's a singular slice.
	I'll say at least get me some.
	But Brian likes bacon on his pizza and they're Muslims.
	Can they do that?
	No, bro.
	Yeah, I went to that.
	Maybe it's pepperoni.
	Who knows?
	Pepperoni is also made out of pork.
	What men want above all, I think it's peace and respect and someone who's nurturing and caring.
	Okay.
	What I have seen so far, like I previously said, I really think that men only want money.
	And what do you think men want in a relationship from a woman?
	You think it's money?
	Okay, now I need to think.
	I would say from a relationship, I would say someone who only listens and does not respond.
	That's what I was thinking.
	That's a way to put that, I guess.
	What about you?
	Sex, fun, eye candy, and loyalty on someone who would be a good mom if they did want children with that person.
	Sex, loyalty, good mom.
	Okay, cool, cool.
	It's pretty good.
	Some pretty good answers there.
	Well done.
	Questions for you?
	I think in your Instagram, Azira?
	Azyra.
	Azyra.
	Excuse me.
	Azira.
	Okay, if you.
	Come on, Azyra.
	Definitely.
	Azyra.
	You guys have really this chemistry.
	It's crazy.
	You and Andrew, if he wasn't married, I think you guys would.
	You're talking about this man right now?
	I'm talking about that man.
	Wait a second.
	Wait a second.
	I have a fictitious black ex-wife.
	Just so you know, you can't eat them.
	This is ridiculous.
	Was it dudes?
	It was a dude and a girl.
	Yeah, that's not happening.
	Why the fuck would we let two?
	First off, we don't have space for these two randoms.
	Actually, Argus Laird.
	Okay, so in your Instagram, it says, if you know you don't deserve me, I'd rather be all alone.
	Yes, it says, don't come and try to hurt me.
	Don't come and try to love me if you know you don't deserve me.
	I'd rather be all alone.
	So question, would you rather be alone than settle for an average guy?
	I don't have any problems with being with an average guy.
	Okay.
	I think that that wouldn't be settling for me.
	That would be fine for me.
	What do you think an average guy is?
	I think an average guy is a man who is a man, not a boy, has a job, can take care of himself, but is not overly rich or overly successful.
	I consider average as middle class and not considering his looks.
	Wait a second.
	That's all monetary.
	What do you think an average man is in his core as a personality?
	Is he average intelligence?
	Is he, what does average mean as far as the person goes?
	As far as the person goes, I would say most likely intelligence, as you were saying, and then also morals.
	Like, he doesn't overly believe in certain things, but he also believes in good, but he doesn't just believe in, oh, you have to do this in a certain way.
	I think average for me would be someone who's kind of in the middle standpoint of everything, whether it be like...
	Well, that sounds moderate, not average.
	Don't you think the average man believes in morality and, you know, kind of the dream of Americana?
	That seems average to me, right?
	But to me, that's not.
	Well, what is, well, that's what I'm asking.
	What is average?
	You kind of gave us the, well, average to me is the size of the wallet.
	What is an average paycheck?
	But if you're talking about a person, what is an average person, an average man?
	What does that look like?
	That's what I'm trying to explain.
	Like, for me, an average man does have a lot to do with money and morals.
	Because if you don't.
	Money and morals?
	Yes, because I would say that a man who is like not average and is high standard is doing very well for himself and those all around him and is also able to make distinctive points of views in good ways.
	I think average would be, to me, average is considered like you don't really have your own point of view.
	You're not willing to speak up for yourself.
	Those are things that I consider average.
	Like you can stand out.
	My definition of an average man.
	I think an average man is a person who wants to reproduce and wants to take care of a family.
	They may not be extreme on philosophy or overly educated, but they love their wife.
	They love their family.
	They're going to work hard every single day to make sure that they're okay.
	I think that that is average.
	I think that that is normal.
	I think that that is a trait which is very commonly found.
	When you say average, what I hear from you is they have X amount in their pocketbook, and It seems like you kind of are giving it a political leaning of a moderate.
	They're moderate in the things they do.
	I don't think average men are moderate.
	I think that they essentially value the things that you value.
	I just wonder where you come up with average.
	Like they're normal looking.
	That doesn't mean that they don't have good self-esteem or that they're not at a job which is paying a decent wage.
	It doesn't mean any of those things.
	So when you say average, I kind of want $69.69.
	Maddie, press button A for blue dress to be your female alpha or button B for settle for the average man.
	By the way, TTS is 69, Warlord 69.
	Thank you for the TTS.
	Maddie's not here.
	Button A for blue dress to be your female.
	Well, I think the average guy is going to work at Amazon and you know, or a factory and he's going to bring home 22 bucks an hour and he's going to come home and expect peace in his home.
	I think that that's pretty average.
	Yes.
	So what really is average to you?
	That is mainly how you explained it is also how I see it.
	When I say as far as like income, that's what I'm saying.
	Like he can take care of himself.
	When I say overly average, I consider that as someone who can take care of everyone around them.
	But to me, average man is someone who can just take care of himself.
	He's living right.
	He doesn't have as many, as many, he doesn't have such a big personality.
	Like he's kind of like in the midst of like being quiet, but also being like who he really is.
	I feel like it's just everything that I see myself as, I feel that if he's not able to be at that level with me, then he is considered average.
	I see.
	So you consider yourself average.
	No, I consider myself a lot of people.
	Can we make final points on this?
	Because we're getting bogged down on every single new thing.
	Can we make final points, please?
	Yeah.
	From both of you.
	You can go.
	Yeah.
	So you consider, you said, I consider average to be everything that I am.
	That's what you said.
	No, I said I consider overly average to be where I am.
	What does that mean?
	Overly average.
	That just means more average than average.
	No, I mean like the next step.
	Like what is a term that you would put over average?
	Above average.
	Exceptional.
	Yes.
	Exceptional is right where I am.
	Well, exceptional would be the opposite of average.
	Someone who believes in the same things as I am and is open to communicating.
	But you're exceptional.
	And being able to express how they feel at the same level as I am.
	Okay, well, let me just ask this last question very quickly.
	What do you think an average, average, not exceptional, but average woman expects from an average man to meet her at the same level.
	Yeah, what does that mean?
	Explain it.
	Whatever level she's at, I think she expects that.
	She's at your level.
	Then that wouldn't be average.
	Yeah, well, what would that mean?
	What would that entail?
	What would an average man need to do to meet you at your level?
	He would need to express his needs and his love for people and for things more and be able to stand up for what is good and what is right.
	That I would not consider that average.
	I would consider that extraordinary.
	to just say what what your preferences are and to be moral that's extraordinary yes all right moving things on um You said that you started your own church to save the generation.
	This world will come to an end one day.
	I saw this clip.
	You're starting your own church.
	Also, let's please not get bogged down too long on just so I can get through everybody and we can hopefully try not to be here for too late tonight.
	Okay, so let me explain that.
	I was looking forward to starting my own church because I feel that everyone in this world, no matter what they believe in, because I find myself to be Christian, but I don't see that as the only reliable or valuable religion.
	I see then you're not a Christian.
	No, it's not even like that.
	What I see is that...
	It's not even possible.
	No, it is possible because I know where I stand, but I don't think where I stand is the only place to be stood.
	I feel that no matter what you believe in, we all believe in something that's good, something that's a higher power.
	And learning multiple religions, you start to see similarities.
	And that's why I think it's really important to be able.
	Well, let's find out if this is true.
	Let me just ask you one question and then we can move on very quickly.
	Is Jesus Christ God?
	No.
	Okay, well, then that's the end of that.
	Can I finish my church segment really quickly?
	There's no real reason to.
	We've already established that you're not a Christian.
	Wait, can I just finish, though?
	Okay.
	But for what?
	You're just going to give us some prattle about something that's not Christianity.
	You're not a Christian.
	No, because he asked me.
	Wait, you have a cross earring.
	Yeah, yes.
	So you're a Christian.
	Yes.
	But Jesus isn't God?
	Jesus isn't God.
	What is Jesus then?
	He is a man that was put on earth to walk God's footsteps, to show us what is capable of.
	Yeah, but like there's the Trinity.
	Hang on, hang on.
	I'm sorry.
	Is Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior?
	Yes, he is.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	So your Lord and Savior is a man?
	He is a man.
	Your Lord and Savior is a man.
	He was put on earth to show us how we can.
	Wait, wait, what do you mean?
	A man came to earth to show you something?
	We were all put on earth.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait, hang on.
	Were you born of a virgin?
	I'm not saying I was born of a virgin.
	Were you born of a virgin?
	Obviously not.
	Was Jesus Christ born of a virgin?
	Yes, he was.
	Can you explain how somebody could be born of a virgin without the divinity?
	Without the divine donated $69.
	She just called herself exceptional, maybe at manipulation and forcing herself on others.
	When referring to men, most women would call the toxicant predatory.
	Yeah, can you explain how a virgin could get pregnant, absent God?
	I cannot explain that.
	You cannot explain that.
	I would like to explain something very important that he asked me.
	You got to speak into the mic or I can't hear you.
	I would like.
	I would like to explain something very important that he asked me about my profile.
	Can I do that?
	Yeah, but I'm asking you a specific question.
	What is this?
	If you can't explain how a virgin could become impregnated, absent God, if you can't explain that, then can you explain how Jesus was a man?
	I really can't explain any of this.
	And that's why if you let me finish on what he asked me, I can explain why I didn't end up starting a church.
	Can we get into that?
	Well, Not really, because you said you were starting a church, but you didn't.
	Yeah, I don't think the reasons, I don't think the reasons why you didn't start the church are really material at this point.
	But I do, I do want to just give you 20 seconds.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, perfect.
	Thank you.
	That's all I needed.
	Okay, so I didn't want to, I did want to start a church because I wanted everyone who has talents on this earth that are using them for sin to be able to bring their talents to God or whatever higher form that they see.
	But I realized that I wasn't able to do that yet because I am still learning and I am working on myself.
	And there's a way to approach people when it comes to religion.
	And you have to be very open-minded and you have to listen to people.
	And they also have to listen to you if you're saying the right thing.
	So I feel like I have a lot of self-work to do on myself before I can do it for everyone else.
	So yes, I do want to start a church, but I'm not able to right now.
	Lizzie, you had something.
	It's not even relevant anymore.
	Okay, that's fine.
	All right.
	Moving things on to hold on.
	Going back to Janara?
	Did I say right?
	Okay.
	You said you went on a hinge date and this guy trauma dumped all of his past relationships and was really exposing himself on all his weird kinks.
	Question mark.
	And this story, how his actions led to this girl at a mental hospital.
	And I didn't even ask for this stuff.
	He was just full-on trauma dumping and exposing himself to the first degree.
	What were his weird things?
	What were his weird kinks?
	He was into threesomes.
	He was into threesomes.
	Is that a kink?
	I guess because he really liked them and he liked explaining it to me.
	Two dude, threesomes?
	No, two girl.
	Two girl.
	Did he have one?
	He's told me that he has.
	Okay.
	Multiple times.
	I don't know if it's a kink to one.
	But you think it's weird.
	To me, walking Roscoe underscores.
	Thank you for YouTube.
	Donated $77.77.
	Overly average is like someone shopping and asking for extra medium underwear.
	R.I.P. Patrice O'Neill and Kevin Samuel.
	Rest in peace.
	Retired military living in Germany.
	Yoho.
	Love you guys.
	Roscoe.
	Christ is God.
	Dunker Shine.
	Thank you for the TTS man.
	Appreciate it.
	7777.
	Lucky numbers.
	Wait, actually, really quick, I'm going to come back to the weird kink dude, whatever.
	You said you were a 10 earlier, but you said you're also fine with dating an average guy.
	So how do you reconcile you yourself being this like amazing 10 who's willing to date an average guy?
	How do you reconcile that?
	I reconcile that because I don't think that I'm too good for anyone.
	I do see myself as a high standard and a high level, and I believe that other people can see me that way too.
	But I also don't degrade other people.
	And I feel like even though someone I can see them rather than like exceptional to average, I still feel like I could be compatible with them because there are certain characteristics that draw people to each other no matter what your like status is on looks or financial.
	I feel like I could be able to meet anyone anywhere because I just feel like I can love anyone.
	I feel like the problem is someone loving me.
	All right.
	Anyways, back to weird threesome kink guy who trauma dumped.
	What else besides the threesome thing?
	He said he was really into blood.
	Okay, that's kind of weird.
	Yeah.
	That escalated quickly.
	Like tasting of it?
	Like he told me a story where he was doing it one time and like her nose started bleeding and he like rubbed his thumb on it and I was like, I don't need to know that.
	Although I guess he's down for period sex, so silver lining.
	Silver lining.
	A little bit.
	Crazy.
	Yeah, like he wants, he's got these weird kinks, but he also.
	You wake up and he's draining your blood.
	You don't wake up.
	He's gone.
	Wait, question, ladies.
	I heard this from a comedian.
	Would this be a turn on if you heard a guy say this?
	So you're like, oh, I'm sorry.
	Like, it's that time of the month.
	I don't know if we can.
	And the guy was like, well, I guess we got to make a fucking mess then.
	Maybe not like that.
	Maybe not like that.
	I mean, the way he said it, I think he's Matt, right?
	I think the way he said it.
	Matt Regina.
	So it was a joke.
	I think Allie Wong, she has this bit where she's like, yeah, I was on my period.
	And it was like, she said it was the most romantic hospital.
	Yeah, with her ex-husband.
	Yeah.
	Would that be if a guy said that when you were.
	I think it's better if he was just polite.
	Yeah.
	That doesn't matter.
	I mean, it depends on the sense of the money.
	I guess we got to make a fucking mess then.
	I mean, I would have left, I think.
	I think you have to be in the moment before it gets to the end.
	Maybe it's our comfort zone at a table for you.
	It's got to be a lot of holiday.
	It's got to be in the.
	Okay, fair enough.
	Fair enough.
	So you're on the weird hinge date.
	He sent a girl to the mental hospital.
	Yeah.
	This girl, I guess, was like really in love with him.
	And then he broke it off with her and she started getting with his friend.
	And they went to Arizona and shit went down.
	And so the friend left her.
	And so she ended up going to a mental hospital because she had nowhere else to go.
	Damn.
	Hey, Brian.
	Yeah.
	We have a big storm rolling in here.
	Okay.
	I have to wrap it a little early.
	I got to take care of it.
	It's 2 a.m. here.
	But guys, all of you on the panel, thank you so much for having me on this evening.
	And I'll do a raid over this way.
	Hey, Andrew, thank you so much for tuning in, man.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, would definitely appreciate if you can shoot us a raid.
	And yeah, thank you so much, Andrew.
	Appreciate you joining us once again.
	We love you, Prince.
	Thank you, Andrew.
	W. Andrew.
	We do love you, Prince.
	We do love you, Prince.
	You really are a Prince.
	Andrew, the point.
	He gives me the Aladdin vibes.
	Like Daddy Aladdin.
	All right.
	Well, thank you.
	It was very nice to meet all of you.
	Have a wonderful night.
	Hope you have a good night, Andrew.
	Good night.
	So the guy, the dude, you said he was exposing himself.
	Yeah.
	What was the other biggest thing that he did?
	He was telling me all of these crazy stories that he's had with past girls.
	Yeah.
	And it was just very alarming to me.
	Like, okay, you're telling all of this to me on the first date.
	It's been like, what, 30 minutes?
	Were you guys at like dinner or something?
	And he just like just across the house.
	He was revealing his red flags.
	He was like, I was like, so, like, what are you into?
	And he goes, oh, I'm really into this, this, and this.
	And then he tells me all these stories about these girls that he's been with and crazy stuff.
	Half the time.
	Waikai.
	Went to the Waikai.
	Maybe he was just trying to brag.
	It was a Vietnamese guy.
	Vietnamese guy.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Not me being Vietnamese.
	You're Vietnamese?
	Part?
	I guess better not found out you sooner than later.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It was kind of crazy.
	Yeah, that's.
	Do you think he like pulls though?
	Like, even though he like says all this shit, do you think he pulled on dates?
	He does pull, but he doesn't keep them.
	I'll say that.
	He'll scare them away and that's it.
	Like hit and run, and that's it.
	That's a bold tactic to like go on a date with a chick and be like, here's how I've ruined the past three chicks I dated.
	He's laying out.
	That's bold.
	He's laying his cards on the table.
	I like blood.
	If you don't like that, no, yeah.
	We're not going to make it.
	But is he older than you or younger?
	He was like, for like me.
	Yo, chat.
	Wait, did the raid come through?
	It's a raid.
	Oh, I think it's coming through right now.
	Yo, what's up, everybody?
	From the Crucible.
	Welcome, boys.
	Welcome, guys.
	We're going to get into, for the last, like, I don't know, hour of the show or whatever.
	We're going to get into heated debates on feminism, man versus bear.
	There's a development in the man versus bear thing.
	A woman in Romania was killed by a bear.
	So I think that's relevant.
	W the Crucible crew.
	Welcome, guys.
	We're going to also, we're going to hit, we're going to touch on feminism, man versus bear, and I think probably we're going to talk about other things.
	Anyways, so what were we talking about?
	We're talking about blood.
	The dude, the dude?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So.
	He has like a history of these girls.
	Uh-huh.
	Oh, I know.
	Okay.
	I wanted to ask the chat.
	Yo, chat.
	Yo, Lewis, thank you for the gifted five memberships.
	Do you guys think in the chat that it is if a girl previously dated a dude like that?
	Is that a red flag on the girl?
	Like if she dated that dude?
	Like that dude or any red flag type of dude.
	Dated or just wanted to date?
	Like, because I was thinking about this with the body count conversation.
	Like how guys don't like girls with high body counts, right?
	And I was thinking like, well, what if she has like a higher body count, but like the guys are relatively respectable dudes, but then she like fucked one dude, but that dude is like your fucking sworn enemy, piece of shit, like just scumbag, ratty motherfucker.
	And I was thinking, I was like, I would kind of rather a chick have sex with like three wholesome, good, like virgin dudes than some like total fuckboy piece of shit, fucking face-tatted motherfucker with like fucking SoundCloud ass rapper motherfucking having scumbag, bitch ass having motherfucking, you know what I mean?
	Sorry, I'm like foaming at the mouth of it.
	Do you know what, like, do you know what I, I was like, I would rather her have a higher body count, but she fucked with good dudes than like she fucked one dude who's like scum of the fucking earth.
	Who he fucked a bunch of chicks.
	You know what I mean?
	I think they're both not good.
	You know what I mean?
	But uh, you know what I mean?
	Do you would you find it kind of nice though that it's like you're the first good guy she's with?
	Oh, that's a bad spot to be.
	I'm the first one.
	I'm like, she's gonna be bored.
	No, it's like she finally got treated right by someone and she holds you in really high regards because you're the first good guy that it's been in her life.
	I do think that I don't know.
	Don't you have like a praise kink?
	Nope.
	What the fuck?
	You said that before.
	A what kink?
	Wait, what was that?
	What does that have to do?
	Like she's like, oh my gosh, you're the first good guy.
	Oh, I don't have a praise kink in my direction.
	I have a praise kink in her direction.
	If that makes sense.
	Oh, you like to praise her.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Never mind.
	I think it was the other way around.
	Like, that's the opposite of like the degradation shit.
	Like, I'm not going to do that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No offense, Lizzie.
	This girl, she told me a story.
	No, I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	But I do think, though, the whole body count discourse, even if the body count's one, but the guy's a total fucking scumbag, that's bad too.
	You know what I mean?
	So you'd prefer the good guy scenario?
	Like, I'd rather have a body count of three, but they were good dudes, than her have a body count of one, but he was a massive fucking scumbag.
	Was he the max amount?
	He's turned into a massive fuck boy.
	I mean, whatever scum, or was he like scum to begin with?
	Always scum.
	Always scum.
	I get it.
	I think.
	Wait, so chat, chat.
	I'm asking the chat here: would you prefer a girl who has a body count of three, but they were like good dudes, or a body count of one, but the dude was a massive fucking rat piece of shit, motherfucking bothersome piece of scumbag asshole fucking cocksucker.
	I kind of think guys would prefer that, though.
	Which do you prefer, the three body count or the one body count?
	Everybody's counting.
	Three.
	It's actually kind of mixed so far.
	I'm seeing some threes.
	I'm seeing some ones.
	And you got to think, okay, I'll ask this follow-up question after this.
	Okay.
	Damn.
	It's mixed, bruv.
	Somebody said two.
	It's mixed.
	Now, here's the follow-up question.
	The girl has a body count of three, but they were good dudes who were virgins.
	So she took their virginity from three dudes.
	Or she has a body count of one, but the dude she fucked has a body count of like 500.
	What if the guy would have to be aware of her?
	Body count of three, all virgins, or body count of one, but the dude had a body, his body count was 500.
	Which do you pick, boys?
	Some saying three.
	The first still one.
	The first person said still one.
	I think I got to take the three, bro.
	So she lost her virginity to this demon dude?
	In that case, I feel like.
	Wait, what?
	So she basically lost her virginity to this demon dude.
	The rat motherfucker.
	Yeah.
	So there's that dude, or she took three dudes' virginity.
	And they were like good dudes.
	Wouldn't that show a lack of character?
	Both?
	Why would it be a lack of character?
	Like, okay, so yeah, let's say she took three dudes' virginities.
	Wouldn't that make her like the piece of shit?
	Not necessarily.
	The predator.
	And then, like, not like, not like virgins?
	Yeah, like, she just likes virgins.
	Like, she's just out here.
	He just so happened to be a virgin.
	It's a tough one.
	It's a tough one.
	But then you go to the number one, and maybe he manipulated her, and she was like, innocent, but like wanted to try the bad boy, you know?
	That's fair.
	Like, yes, I think the other one's a more predator.
	If you're doing the three-guy one, like, she obviously had, like, a motive, but then the one, it's like, oh, my first guy who's giving me attention.
	It's just a thought that crossed my mind on the body count discourse.
	Anyways, back to you.
	You had, is it bad to be friends with your ex if you were together almost four years ago and you both have no feelings towards each other?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	It's bad to be friends with.
	Get this girl some contact lenses, huh?
	What?
	Yeah, yeah, it is.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Bad to be friends.
	Are you friends with your ex from four years ago?
	I am.
	Red flag.
	Girl.
	Red flag, man.
	Even if he verbally tells me that he's into other girls.
	Sorry, wait, hold on.
	I choose to blank to bro.
	To midget blank in a red ants nest, than either of the options.
	First off, don't knock midget porn, you asshole.
	I solidarity with short, short women, okay?
	How dare you talk about the short ladies?
	Any of y'all know dwarf?
	I'm trying to trying to get it in.
	I'm trying to get it in with you know dwarfs.
	What's up, female dwarf?
	Her name's Autumn.
	What's up, Autumn?
	How you doing?
	What's up?
	She's very Christian.
	She uh premaritals sex here.
	Are you into dwarves?
	I would date a dwarf.
	You really throw him around.
	I would date a dwarf.
	Yeah.
	Period.
	I would is that a quit mean that they have a lady match like what yes.
	She's got to check on them.
	I just asked them.
	That's like the first ever double rage quit.
	Boom.
	I'm going to have you go over there, Morgan.
	Yeah, you'll move over there.
	W's.
	Oh, wait.
	Oh, shit, bro.
	I forgot the rule.
	We were supposed to.
	Yeah, you got to take the.
	I forgot.
	I should have removed it.
	Oh, well.
	Okay.
	Oh, frick.
	Did she already leave?
	Bro, if they're leaving, they just got beep.
	Out you go.
	It's got to be like this, bro.
	Out.
	You go.
	It's okay.
	It's fine.
	Anyways, where were we?
	One of the dwarves, yes.
	Does the labia match?
	Does it have to match?
	You know, the size.
	The over there.
	Move over one there.
	Yeah, I guess.
	I'm not sure.
	Does it have to match?
	You've got the most interesting tape.
	What did you call it?
	Ladar?
	I have the ladar.
	Ladar?
	Wait, Brian, what is your type?
	Okay, what is your type?
	Let's get into it.
	I'm glad that you asked.
	Hold on.
	I have it written down.
	Oh, manifestation.
	I have this shit written down.
	Okay, so any race.
	I can't believe I have to repeat this every show.
	let's get let's get her moving out of here because ulysses the pagan donated 69 dollars i would applaud anyone that changed their promiscuous behavior but their past has consequences It can be respected, but it's not unreasonable for me to exclude them from my dating pool.
	Yo, pagan man.
	Thank you for the TTS.
	Appreciate it, man.
	You're asking what my type is?
	Yeah.
	Here, don't read it.
	Let me just characterize.
	Oh, you can?
	It's the privacy block.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let's start with looks.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You guys can chime in if any of you object to this.
	All right.
	Any race is fine, but slight preference for white women or Asian women.
	But I'll date.
	I've dated Latina black, whatever.
	Various crazy people donated $69.
	Large labia is like a vaginal meat sweater.
	That's a good thing, though.
	I like how that's actually kind of a good thing.
	Good thing.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, bro.
	Thank you, bro.
	I appreciate it.
	Like the wizard cuffs.
	Wizard cuffs?
	Yo.
	Wizard.
	Wizard sleeves.
	Wizard sleeves.
	I'm a fan.
	Let's see.
	Prefer short women, but I'll date any height.
	So she could be four, five dwarf.
	Or like a six foot, seven.
	I don't even have a height limit.
	I'll date an eight foot chick.
	That's right.
	Unless it's like the I would do it, but you wouldn't.
	I would do it.
	No, I don't know.
	You would just try it, I don't know.
	Feel like once you get into that height, don't you have like health problems and shit?
	Yeah, but I don't even know the positioning.
	Like, what?
	I can make it work.
	Don't, don't, don't you worry.
	I got under Brian's going up on them.
	What the fuck?
	First off.
	What was that joke from the, what's it called?
	The roast of who's the most recent guy who got roasted?
	Oh, Tom Brady.
	Yeah.
	Oh, hell no.
	Anybody?
	I can't remember what it was, but I know what I'm about.
	Oh, natural body supremacist.
	We already talked about that, but prefer obviously like hygiene, grooming, and shit's important.
	But strong preference, no plastic surgery, no fake tits, no fake lips, no BBL, no lipo, no labia plasty.
	Let's see.
	Minimal, no makeup, but whatever.
	Let's see.
	Small boobs are elegant, you know?
	They're elegant.
	This pisses everyone off.
	Okay.
	Small boobs, right?
	If you look at Greek statues, Roman statues, historical statues.
	These women didn't have fucking can crusher titties.
	They had like modest, maybe a B-cup max.
	Good handful.
	They had a B-cup max.
	So what I like to say is: everyone's going to hate me, even the small titty.
	People don't like me for this one.
	I think, so a woman who has big boobs can be sexy and hot and attractive, but I don't think she can be beautiful.
	That's going to trigger a lot of people.
	No, because that's your opinion.
	I only think like small titty chicks can be beautiful.
	Don't get you can be sexy as fuck hot with giant melon can crusher titties for sure.
	They're great.
	They're great.
	Just motorboat.
	I'm kidding.
	But what I'm saying is, I don't think you can be beautiful.
	There's a difference, it's elegant, brother.
	There's a difference.
	There's like certain things that I would, even before I had my implants on, I always had the bigger boobs where it's like there's certain things that I can't wear, where it's like the ones that have the slash, it's like more elegant dresses.
	It's like looks different on them.
	So there is definitely a different beauty to it.
	Let's see what else.
	Wait, do you feel the same way about butts?
	Like if a girl has a huge butt, you think she should just be sexy, but if she has like an average butt, it's like.
	I'm undecided on the butt thing.
	But actually, you know, like for like a big butt's kind of nice to look at, but for like speeds for speed?
	For speed, it's like can sometimes get in the way.
	No, no, no.
	It can aid in speed.
	In speed?
	If you have an eraser?
	Wait, what kind of rhythm?
	What are you talking about?
	What are you talking about?
	Wait.
	Let's just move on.
	Carry on.
	What is like if the look, some big fucking eyes and some like big, like big booty, it's like it can be nice to look at, but I feel like when it comes down to it, when it comes down, like, it kind of makes it harder.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	I can't.
	It makes it harder.
	Yeah, yeah, but it does.
	It doesn't.
	Are we really racing or are we erasing?
	No, I'm saying like the okay.
	The obscurity 89 donated $69.
	I'd prefer option one.
	My wife had three bad boys before me.
	One banned from Cuba for our word.
	One with a felony for throwing an ex down the stairs.
	Now I'm married to her and she thinks I'm sweet under God.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Obscurity 89.
	Period.
	My wife had three bad boys before me.
	One bad boy.
	Okay.
	Go you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, man.
	What were you talking about?
	Oh, like, okay, so I just think it makes it kind of harder.
	Like, objectively, it's like the little harder.
	Big booty?
	Like, like big, big legs, big booty.
	It makes it harder.
	What the way you say, harder.
	It's harder.
	I think what you're saying, but I don't know what you're saying.
	It's just like I think you guys continue your definition.
	Go ahead, Lisa.
	No, no, no.
	I understand a little bit where he's coming from on, like, it could be harder because the momentum is like dragging.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, are we running?
	Am I even talking about the same thing?
	I think everyone's confused.
	We don't have sexual running.
	Oh, my God.
	Okay.
	Fantastic.
	I mean, the way you say that is going to be from behind, I feel like it's like, it's just like a lodge.
	It's like one.
	Yeah, it's like an ocean.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	Like, it's hard for me.
	It reverberates.
	Yes.
	There's this run.
	That helps with the momentum sometimes.
	It's like this giant wave.
	It's like a 10-foot.
	Ron Numbers Cole Briggs donated $69.
	Brian, sadly, most women you have on listen and take advice like Trump catches bullets, barely nicks their ears.
	How do we get women to admit they are not logical thinkers and to submit to pure logic?
	That is a really good question.
	If you, I don't know the answer, if you find out, tell me.
	I will pay you a lot of money.
	But yeah, I don't know.
	I'm not sure.
	I'm not sure.
	I'm not trying to really change y'all minds.
	I'm trying to change their minds.
	Sup, guys.
	What's up?
	What was I saying?
	Momentum.
	You're all going with the same wave.
	You got a really good point on that because, like, it, bro, I'm like, if, if it, like, what's it called when a girl puts it back on a I'm like, oh, bro, you might throw my back out, bro.
	Bro, I might get a sprain or some shit.
	I could get sprained.
	I could get sprained.
	I'm looking out for my health.
	But like, where this, where, like, the saying comes in, where it's like, no, that's, like, a lot of ass to handle.
	You know what I mean?
	How you get all of that in Dem jeans, Dem jeans.
	How you get all of that.
	It is true, though.
	It is true.
	Nice to look at.
	Also, here, I'll just be more detailed.
	Okay.
	I'll just, you guys, anybody, everybody okay with a little detail?
	You okay?
	You okay with some detail?
	You guys want some detail?
	Morgan?
	I don't think.
	You know, it's like those people who are like, so since you guys have been asking about my skincare routine, let me tell you all about it.
	Like, since you guys keep asking.
	So, okay, I'll just give you one scenario where it could present a potential issue, right?
	If the girl's on top and she's just boom, rocking.
	Dah is rocking.
	Booty rocking.
	Damn it, let me donate $69.
	Yo, thank you, man.
	The first part of the show must have been a banger.
	W Andrew for triggering them.
	Speaking about banger, small booties are better for us guys who are less than seven.
	Let you get it in deeper.
	He just explained the detail for you.
	It could be one of the reasons.
	But okay, so.
	Oh, so okay, if the girl's on top, right?
	And like, if you're trying to like, okay, she's on top and she's like laying down chest to chest, basically.
	And you're trying to reach around and rubber clit.
	If her leg's too thick, you can't.
	It's like hard to.
	It's hard to reach.
	This is a lot of it.
	That's what you should do.
	I'm trying to, I'm just, I'm just saying it.
	Intel Wild donated $69.
	Toby Maguire got bit by a spider, but Brian.
	Andrew and Trump must have been bit by a goat.
	Thank you, Intel Wild.
	Dude, good to see you back in the chat, man.
	It's been a while.
	Intel Wild and also, who was the guy who sent in the last one?
	It was Law Paladins.
	This is for Law Paladins and Intel Wild.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	Boom.
	Such a good movie.
	You go straight down.
	I don't know.
	Okay, so continue your title.
	No, that was it.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, yeah, of course, of course.
	Yeah, but I'm just saying it can complicate things a little bit.
	I'm just saying, you know?
	Oh, slight preference for dark hair, but like, don't really care.
	Blonde, whatever.
	Brunette.
	Redhead, I guess.
	So you basically welcome all excuse me.
	I wouldn't disqualify a girl if she had like red hair, you know?
	But slight preference for dark hair.
	Let's see.
	We already talked about labia, so that's kind of out there, you know.
	Wait, she has to have done three years of cello.
	That's so specific.
	Yeah, I'll accept violin, viola.
	Piano?
	Why?
	I can work with piano.
	You got some piano experience?
	I know a little piano.
	Okay, all right.
	Okay.
	I can fix her.
	So.
	You do fit the category pretty well.
	Okay, no.
	Let me see.
	Did you say okay, no?
	I don't know how to play the cello.
	Wait, you do know how to play the cello?
	Oh, shoot.
	Yeah, but you know, it's like, right?
	You guys know what I'm talking about with the whole cello thing, right?
	No.
	No.
	Morgan knows.
	She has to be good hand coordination.
	Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
	Like, it probably has to do something with.
	Oh.
	Hand coordination.
	Okay.
	Excellent.
	I say that as a joke, though, because we've had this conversation on the show before.
	Like, you guys think, oh, because hand jobs, but it's like, if like all that's on the table is a handy, I kind of don't want it.
	Like, if a girl's like, well, I'll give you a hand job.
	I'd be like, excuse me.
	I'll give you the hand job.
	No, I'll just.
	Well, I feel like, no, you guys, I mean, you don't.
	As if.
	Yeah.
	That's what I'm saying.
	As if.
	Let's see.
	What else?
	Oh, no.
	Chat.
	Let me ask the chat.
	Boys, if all that's on the table is a hand job, do you just turn it down?
	I don't know if I just have dick discipline, but like, I'd rather just not.
	Like, can we not?
	You know what I mean?
	Oh, we haven't done the bow video.
	Do you know what I mean, though, chat?
	Nick?
	Or sorry, not Nick, chat?
	Chat, would you turn down?
	Do you turn down the handy?
	They're saying yes.
	I just turned down the handy.
	I don't know.
	Like, I don't think I've ever had like a good hand.
	Sorry, ladies, but I've never.
	In, like, like, what situation would a girl only give you a hand?
	I know.
	I was thinking of it.
	I don't know.
	I was like, how do you cry across that?
	Like, a girl.
	She's like, she's like, I'll just give you a hand job.
	All I got to offer is the handy.
	Yeah, like, that's it.
	I think so.
	It happened like once.
	That's great.
	She was, I don't know.
	I don't know how it happened, but that's how it happened.
	Crazy conversation.
	Sorry.
	Is it here?
	You need earmuffs.
	Should we give you earmuffs?
	Oh, let's see.
	What else?
	That was like mostly physical stuff.
	Oh, also, I like.
	Actually, I feel like I don't want to say anything a bit vulgar, so I won't say it because I feel like I feel like you guys are a little too innocent for this, you know?
	I want to protect your ears.
	Okay.
	Anyways, personality, I should answer that.
	Moderate preference for introverted women, quiet, calm, soft-spoken.
	I have this shit written down.
	If it sounds like I'm reading from a list.
	A little bit shy, a little bit nerdy.
	Modesty, good.
	Brings me peace, doesn't quarrel.
	Let's see.
	Doesn't party, doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs, doesn't go to bars or clubs.
	You got excluded.
	You're almost there.
	Let's see.
	Oh, undivided romantic and sexual attention.
	The earlier the better.
	So basically, what that means, once I step into your life, there can't be other dudes in the picture.
	Like, first date, you want a second date?
	It has to be a wrap with the other dudes.
	And I'll extend the same.
	Like, I'll extend the same.
	Because I'm not like, I don't want to be in this situation ship for three months.
	You're seeing other dudes.
	I'm seeing other chicks.
	Like, if I like a girl, I like the girl and I'm going to pursue that.
	So all these people, that's one of the big things, complaints from both men and women in the current dating landscape.
	It's people just in these situationships for months and nothing ever materializes.
	Like.
	Is that that?
	Possibly?
	Right?
	I don't know, probably.
	Well, I feel like that's a thing too.
	Like, I've never been able to date multiple people at the same time.
	It's like if the first date doesn't go well, then that's done with.
	But I'm kind of like that tunnel vision too, where it's like, I just don't know how people date multiple at the same time.
	Like, I can't.
	I don't know.
	Well, for example, I mean, this is how strict I am with, like, if she's involved with other dudes.
	I remember one time I was on a phone call with a girl because I'll always, like, if I meet a girl on a dating app, I'm not on dating apps anymore.
	But if I meet a girl on a dating app, or when I was on them, I'd always do a phone call first.
	I think, is that kind of normal?
	Back to FaceTime.
	Make sure that your pictures match what you're saying.
	So I do a phone call, and I had this girl say on the phone call, she was like, oh, hey, I got to go because I'm going on a date with another dude.
	And like, even that, even though I've never met her, that's a deal breaker for me.
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	Maddie, button to accept what Brian tells you what a woman is.
	Or button B, accept what Blue Dress tells you what a woman is.
	The choice is yours.
	Like the definition of a woman, I feel like they would have to both the same definition.
	Yeah.
	Pick a button.
	A.
	No, pick the other button.
	B.
	But.
	What is a woman?
	For you?
	Oh, what is a woman?
	A woman is somebody who can carry life and give birth.
	Okay, that was good.
	That was good.
	Wait, so back to this.
	Well, it was, oh, undivided romantic and sexual attention.
	So, yeah, I mean, if I'm interested.
	You even told you she was going on a date with another guy?
	Well, yeah, we were on the phone.
	We'd matched, we were going to plan the date or something.
	I was like, hey, let's hop on the call.
	I'll talk to her.
	Going well.
	And she tells me, oh, hey, I have to run into dinner because I have a date.
	I just lost interest right away.
	She could have said something else.
	I feel like even if I did have that too, I wouldn't tell the guy because I'm like, hold on.
	I don't know.
	I guess it's better that she told me.
	The honesty, but still honest.
	I mean, but so if I go on a first date with a girl and she wants to go on a second date with me, it has to be a wrap for all the other dudes that she's talking to if she wants a second date.
	I get it on a first date, whatever.
	You're maybe going on other dates and shit.
	But if you want a second date, it has to be a wrap with other dudes.
	Is that something that you disclose to her or you expect of her?
	Like, is that something normally both?
	So on the first date?
	I'll tell a girl.
	I'll tell a girl.
	Yeah.
	I'll even tell a girl before I first meet up with her.
	I'm like, look, I'm not interested in like some casual shit where you're fucking other dudes.
	I'm fucking other girls.
	This is what I'm looking for.
	You can get with the program or you can, back to the streets you go.
	Go off, queen.
	I feel like when you have your intentions set, then like either they like it or they don't.
	It's like, yeah, you're honest about what you want.
	It's your dating with intention.
	So you're not just dating to just hook up or have situationships.
	So that's, I would respect that.
	I'd be like, okay.
	Did you make that a rule because like that's happened multiple times or it was just like something you thought on the top of your head?
	Well, I just don't want to be involved with a girl who's romantically or sexually involved with another man.
	Yeah.
	So like I don't want to hook up.
	I don't, I wouldn't even, even if I was inclined to just, even if I was just inclined to have a one-night stand, I wouldn't even want to do it with a woman who's sexually involved with another man.
	Yeah.
	I mean, like, that's just a lot of people.
	They're sexually, it's like you're emotionally involved.
	So there's definitely a tie there because I don't believe that women can just have sex, have sex, casual sex.
	Eh, they can do it.
	I mean, they do it.
	I mean, yeah.
	I don't understand it, I guess, personally.
	That's just never been my thing.
	I've never been a hookup type of person.
	But yeah, I mean, I would agree with you too.
	The ones that do are like a little mentally challenged.
	What?
	But I think that, at least for me, since I know what I'm looking for.
	Joe Murphy donated $69.
	Brian, lay off of the edibles and the drinks, brother.
	Just tell the ladies that being 30 pounds overweight is unattractive.
	Ladies don't get fat.
	This applies to men as well.
	That's true.
	I got to lose some weight, bro.
	I got 30 pounds to lose.
	At least.
	At least I got a dad, Bob, bro.
	I got a stressful job.
	I've been stress eating.
	It's crazy.
	But I'm working on the diet.
	It's under control, boys.
	Right?
	I got chunky since the last time you were on it.
	I was like, wait, wait.
	What?
	Never mind.
	You got drunk when I was on last night?
	He said, I got chunky since I got chunky.
	I was like, I got chunky.
	No, I don't drink.
	But what was I saying?
	Oh, yeah.
	So just because I know exactly what I'm looking for, I definitely think that because I have no interest in just like fucking a girl once and never talking to her again.
	If I sleep with a girl, I want there to be continuity.
	I'm going to continue seeing her.
	So, yeah, just to me, it's, I don't know.
	That's good.
	It only ever works that way.
	So you've got to be up front.
	But I mean, I think that's my, at least prescriptive advice to other men.
	If you, at least if you know what you want and you want a relationship, you want something long-term with the girl, you got to make sure she's on the same page with you.
	Like, you got to, because the way a lot of people move, both men and women, but I can only speak from the male experience here.
	A lot of people be dating multiple people, sleeping with multiple people.
	And like, for me, that's unacceptable.
	If a girl's fucking another guy and she's trying to mess with me, I'm not interested.
	I don't care how fucking hot she is.
	I don't, like, it's such a turn off to be dealing with a chick that's fucking somebody else.
	So it's got to be a wrap with her.
	I don't care how hot she is, how cool she is, how attractive she is.
	If there's another dude in the picture in some way, romantic, certainly sexual, that's immediate deal breaker.
	But yeah, my advice to dudes, to guys are your standard should be anywhere from sleeping with a girl to being in a relationship with a girl.
	Clearly, there cannot be other dudes in the picture.
	No, I agree with you.
	I think even my last relationship, how I set the boundary where it was like we had just started talking, I said, listen, the moment we get intimate, like, it's game over.
	Like, it's a rap.
	I don't want you talking to anyone.
	And I know, I think he had a couple of dates lined up after our date, which he ended up canceling it because I'm like, no, this is not what I thought.
	It's fine.
	I just know my worth.
	Like, I don't share.
	I don't like that.
	Either you want it or you don't.
	That's just who I am.
	So.
	Yeah.
	And I guess to just add on to my point, a lot of these dudes, I've heard these dudes say recreational use only.
	Like, oh, okay, if she's kind of like slutty, then just sleep with her.
	Or like, bro, even, like, there's no realm.
	If she, there's no realm, even if you're inclined to have casual sex, should you sleep with a girl who's fucking other men?
	100%.
	So this recreational use thing is like being a cuck with extra steps.
	Like, you should not desire to sleep with, like, recreational use only.
	No, she's, it's nothing.
	She gets nothing from you.
	She doesn't get your sexual energy.
	She doesn't get anything.
	It has to be a rap if she's sexually involved with another dude.
	And I don't like the term recreational use only.
	That's what other people use.
	I've never heard of it until right now.
	Recreational use only, basically just for sex.
	I don't like that terminology, but it's got to be a rap.
	I learned three or four from this podcast.
	Like, what do they keep saying?
	Look up the terminologies to understand the podcast.
	Let's see.
	And then I'm trying to think if there's anything else.
	Oh, the bow.
	The bow.
	Peace is big.
	But you can't have a quarrelsome.
	Go ahead, Nick.
	Go ahead, play.
	She's got a bow.
	Huge.
	What is this?
	Boom!
	Huge bow.
	Look at this.
	She got my shoes.
	Love you.
	I just kicks it at her.
	The bed's not made that laundry ready to go.
	Yeah, that's definitely a stern talking to for the not made.
	Actually, I don't care about the bed, you know.
	Really?
	I get home from a long day at the podcast studio.
	She's got my dinner ready, food ready.
	What's up with the uncut tomatoes, bro?
	That's kind of ridiculous.
	Oh, I thought that was really good.
	Next, or wait, sorry, one more time, replay that shit.
	Let's see the bow.
	Just the bow.
	Boom.
	Boom.
	She's got a bow, bro.
	I walked through the door.
	I need a bow.
	What do you guys think of that?
	Starting with L-Dog over here.
	I mean, if you're asking for it, then yeah, sure.
	I don't mind.
	You're down for the bow?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I will.
	You do the bow?
	I will.
	Law Paladins donated 69.
	Law Paladins, what's up?
	Q for Brixon.
	What about an Eiffel Tower?
	Not even for the memes.
	Have you for the panel ever had an Eiffel Tower?
	What the fuck?
	Wait, Law Paladins, I'm dedicating.
	Every time you send in the TTS, this is your noise now.
	Okay, Keefer Brian, what about an Eiffel Tower?
	Not even for the memes.
	Wait, what?
	Like threesomes?
	You don't know what an Eiffel Tower is.
	I know what it is.
	It's like you're like high-fiving the dude.
	Honestly, I'm not, even if I was inclined to, okay, hold on.
	Here's my take on threesomes.
	I'm only allowed to disappoint one woman at a time.
	Okay?
	So I can't be doing this threesome thing.
	Like, I can't, you know, I can't do it.
	But a threesome with another dude?
	That's it.
	Uh.
	Ugh.
	That's good, brother.
	Ugh.
	Ugh, you gotta add that to your thing.
	Would you guys have a threesome going around that?
	Or have you had a threesome?
	Starting with our homegirl here.
	No.
	Jessica.
	Jessica, step on up.
	No.
	No.
	That was funny.
	That's it, okay?
	Morgan?
	No?
	No.
	No, I don't like to share.
	No.
	Me neither.
	No.
	That's disgusting.
	Yeah.
	I like question people who actually do do that.
	Yeah.
	So back to the bow.
	Anyways.
	Do I?
	I guess I would do it.
	In case you don't want to use it.
	Like, no, no, I would do it.
	It was like a two-girl.
	I would do a two-girl threesome.
	Obviously.
	But she would have to arrange that shit.
	Yeah, usually.
	She would have to write.
	Like, you wouldn't request it.
	Or like, go on and you wouldn't just be like, let's do it.
	It would have to, like, I wouldn't do the work to make it.
	Like, it would have to just fall into my lap somehow.
	Literally.
	Like, if those two twins, no, I'm just kidding.
	Stayed here.
	Okay, okay.
	Okay, wait, Ken.
	About that, by the way, just, I mean, I know I blew up, but it had nothing to do with their passion.
	It was that they kept interrupting, so it just extended the arguments for no apparent reason.
	We're literally having the same argument over and over because she wasn't listening.
	I love their passion.
	I definitely love that they're passionate about what they were saying, but it's just like learn to listen so we can have wrap up an argument.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah, you like that, Fanny?
	It's coming for midnight.
	Wait, I got.
	I'm going to pretend like you need to just make my dick go soft.
	Oh, man.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	What else?
	You were talking about the bow.
	I don't know.
	I think that was.
	Oh, would you bow?
	Were we going around on the bow?
	Did you?
	I would bow.
	I said, yeah.
	I would bow.
	I would bow.
	You would do the bow?
	Would you bow?
	Back to you?
	No, that wasn't like.
	That wasn't like.
	It's not like.
	I would bow to other women.
	It's just, you know what I mean?
	No, if you were that woman, would you bow?
	If I was, if I had a let's see what I bow.
	I'm asking you if you would bow.
	If I was a chick?
	I don't know.
	I'm a bad bad.
	If this chick asked him to bow, would you like to bow back to her?
	Yeah.
	If your chick asked you to bow every time she came home.
	No, but in a life or death situation, I would protect her.
	All right?
	I would.
	Actually, no, I wouldn't, though, because I wouldn't take the bullet, right?
	Yeah.
	No, I would protect her.
	But you wouldn't take the bullet.
	I would dispatch, I would have to pull out my self-defense mechanism and protect her with it.
	So you wouldn't bow.
	Huh?
	No, I don't think that.
	You're not protecting her.
	Honestly, if it was like a kind of like we were.
	I like to be silly with my girl.
	It's fun to be kind of like goofy, silly.
	Honestly, if she's like, let me hit a bow, I'd probably fucking do it.
	Just if it was like a silly context.
	But like a serious context, hell no, I'm not bowing.
	Like just if we're goofing off or whatever, fuck it.
	Yeah, I'm not tripping about that.
	Maddie?
	Have you hit Frankie with a bow?
	Yes.
	Have you?
	Yes.
	Would you bow?
	Would you bow to him?
	Morgan, would you hit a bow?
	No.
	Oh, Morgan.
	Okay, well, I don't know why you said yes.
	No, I don't think so.
	Have you got any dating prospects, Morgan?
	What?
	Any prospects?
	I don't know.
	I'm not looking for anybody like that.
	Okay, all right.
	She's focused on soccer.
	Okay.
	I would bow.
	Based.
	Okay, that's good.
	What was I saying?
	Okay, we were talking about the bowing thing.
	Yeah.
	Good to.
	Oh, okay.
	Sorry, guys.
	I was just looking at my notes here.
	We're going to get through a rapid fire section here.
	Do you want to do the tweet?
	The tweet?
	Was there a tweet?
	There's a tweet video.
	Oh, we'll have to save it.
	We'll save it for next show.
	We will save it for next show.
	There's also a billboard thing.
	It'll probably get copyright or whatever.
	Okay, a couple things here.
	I'm going to go through my rapid-fire questions.
	We got to do the bear question.
	Nick, pull up the news article.
	Wait, actually, I'll get the answers first.
	Would you rather be alone in the forest with a random man or a random bear?
	Man.
	Man.
	Ooh, man, I guess.
	Man.
	Probably man.
	Man.
	I don't know.
	Man.
	Man.
	Oh, damn.
	Look at us go.
	I feel like you should have asked this before earlier.
	Yeah, those three probably were the same.
	I'm like, I feel like that would have been bear.
	But what kind of bear?
	Where does the bear come from?
	How does the bear feel about me?
	Is the vibrational frequency of the bear high?
	I feel like I can talk to the bear.
	Good shit.
	Good shit.
	Well, I feel like based off the bear thing, you guys aren't really going to.
	I mean, we can give you different answers if you want.
	No, well, don't give a fake.
	I've seen a lot of videos lately about men posting videos about this topic, and they're like, sometimes I do understand why women choose bear.
	Because I don't know in the context, it was like, oh, like I was in a club, and some guys don't know how to take no for an answer.
	I get why women choose the bear.
	Well, I feel like in the bear, though, like, there's a thought that the man could kill me, but I could run away from the bear.
	I feel like I have, I can climb the tree and get away from the bear, but the man would probably bear runs fast.
	I know.
	The bear gonna get you, girl.
	But a man in the woods is kind of scary.
	The man in the woods.
	It's there for the same reason that you are there.
	Just randomly got to the window.
	Oh, okay.
	That's the woods.
	Yeah.
	Wait, so Janara, are you sure it's man?
	Yeah.
	I feel like this is a question where if like the first four people say man, I should start just saying bear if I'm not.
	Yeah.
	I'm still kind of thinking about it because the moment he said alone with a man in the thing, I was like, I feel like it's also just like the way we phrase it.
	What was it?
	Yeah, I have that back.
	So it's like, what was it?
	It wasn't supposed to fall.
	Sorry.
	Were you scared?
	Were you trying to scare us?
	You failed horribly at that point.
	So the bitch is fine.
	I got this.
	Hold on, let me put it on Amazon.
	You chose the wrong boys.
	I got this spider, and I thought, like, if maybe I got to do this differently, but if a girl says bear, maybe one of you guys can just walk behind them and like plop it on the table.
	Oh, that'd be good.
	That would be funny.
	And then if they freak out over the spider, it's just normally I would have put a fake.
	I'm sorry.
	You threw it like a ninja saw.
	It was supposed to land right there.
	But I think maybe one of you put some something on the table and it just slid right off.
	Oh, yeah.
	You should get one of those fake cockroaches.
	Those are more fun.
	Two fakes.
	The ones that you can remote control.
	Oh, that was fun.
	That would be more real.
	Fine.
	I'll just get a real spider.
	That's fine.
	I love that spider.
	I'm just going to get a real tarantula.
	No, we are going to adopt a tarantula.
	Name it Bob.
	I want to see a snake or something.
	And a snake.
	I contacted snake guy recently.
	Oh, okay.
	Do you think girls are scared of snakes?
	Yeah, if you get a snake or whatever, don't go to the python.
	I love it.
	What's your friend's name, Eunice or whatever?
	I saw you do a TikTok with her.
	Oh, no.
	She's not interested.
	She's not down.
	Ripped.
	Damn.
	Okay.
	Okay, let's get through a couple more questions.
	Lol Paladins donated $69.
	Ladies, you can date a Trump supporter.
	Trump 2024.
	Okay, would you date a Trump supporter?
	Yes.
	I mean, it would depend, but I wouldn't discriminate.
	Yes.
	I am.
	Yeah.
	Are you.
	Yes, yes.
	Yes, I would.
	I'm not following the crowd.
	I'm saying yes because I feel yes.
	No, but are you like more conservative or more liberal?
	Honestly, I'm kind of independent.
	I don't lean towards one way or another.
	So.
	Okay, no, either way, totally fine.
	Yeah.
	Yes, and I.
	Yes, and you are.
	I don't think I could date someone with the opposite political, so yes.
	I am.
	How long have you been dating this new guy?
	You said it was recent?
	Pretty recent.
	Yeah, like a couple weeks.
	Moving?
	He's moving.
	Oh, he's moving?
	Oh, he's moving.
	Well, this wouldn't be for like a year.
	You guys are long distance?
	No.
	Well, so he's in the military.
	And he's in Japan.
	I leave to see him on Thursday.
	Wait.
	But you said you've only been seeing him for a short period of time?
	Yes, but we've been friends for a while.
	Oh, you knew him before?
	I knew him before.
	That makes sense.
	Yeah.
	And he comes back in December.
	Do you think he's living in Japan?
	What?
	You know what they say about military men?
	Oh, my goodness.
	It's probably an older person.
	No, it's 100% not like that.
	We met in church.
	I'm very Christian.
	He's very Christian.
	He has a really, really big head on his shoulders.
	He's a super loyal guy.
	I trust him completely.
	He's lovely.
	And vice versa.
	So, yeah.
	Yeah, you definitely hit the jackpot with him.
	That's awesome.
	Congratulations.
	All right.
	Going back to Janara, did I say it right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Oh, you said you're single.
	Have you had a rebound, though?
	No.
	Are you currently dating anybody?
	No.
	No dudes in the picture?
	No.
	Dating apps?
	No.
	No dating apps?
	None.
	Okay.
	I don't like dating apps.
	I think they're weird.
	Fair enough.
	Fair enough.
	I still want to know why I'm banned on Hinge.
	What did you do?
	I have no idea.
	Did you put your makeup only fans in there?
	No.
	You linked to it?
	No.
	This is like, but it's weird because after the ex and I broke up, I tried to go back on the app and it said, oh, well, if you want to, what is it?
	Appeal, email us before December 16, 2021.
	I'm like, well, the time has kind of passed, but I have no idea why.
	Maybe he secretly did something.
	Pulled some strings.
	Oh, this was the other.
	Somebody sent me something.
	So what's that guy's name?
	Sorry, just slipped my mind.
	The guy from 300?
	Gerard Butler.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	So apparently we've been reacting to these recent age gap relationships.
	Last week we reacted to Toby Maguire, 49, Spider-Man, dating a 20-year-old.
	Anthony Keatus in his 60s dating a 20-year-old.
	Gerard Butler is Nick.
	If you can find something on this Butler dating age guy.
	How old is he?
	Gerard Butler is 56?
	Wait, hold on.
	Who's Gerard Butler?
	Somebody sent me a story, but I can't.
	Damn it, I can't find it.
	Gerard Butler girlfriend.
	Oh, Gerard Butler, 54, finds love.
	Nick, do you have the Daily Mail article?
	I can link it to you.
	Oh, they just broke up?
	Okay, well, we'll find Rip.
	Hold on.
	Can you find the Daily Mail article?
	Just Gerard Butler girlfriend.
	I think.
	think.
	Did you have it?
	Yeah.
	Oh my god, the Daily Mail, you fuckers.
	Okay.
	Scroll up, make it big.
	Make a big.
	Gerard Butler, 54, finds love again with stunning model 25 years his junior.
	Oh, okay.
	So, wait, 25.
	So she's 20.
	Wait.
	Hold on.
	You got it.
	29.
	Fuck.
	Wait.
	29?
	29?
	Okay.
	Are there photos?
	Do they have photos?
	There he is.
	Look at that handsome guy.
	Oh my god.
	This. Is. Sparta!
	He could do better.
	She doesn't like this.
	Yeah.
	He could do better.
	It was the boobs.
	Okay.
	He could do better.
	She doesn't look that old, though.
	I mean, she looks older, yeah.
	Yeah, that's what I meant.
	She looks older than 24.
	So, just going around the table, would you do like an age gap relationship starting over here?
	As long as you're not.
	Or, like, what's the oldest you would date?
	I mean, I know you're married.
	Yeah, but I just couldn't go past my dad.
	That would be weird.
	And my dad's 20 years older than I am.
	So.
	What about you?
	I don't think I could date anyone older than probably 30.
	Like 33, 34.
	Anything older than that, I don't think.
	Sure.
	21, 22.
	Okay.
	I would do like 10 years or like 29.
	I mean, it's odd because they always end up being younger.
	You're like a cougar then.
	I am.
	I've entered my cougar era.
	Thank you.
	Well, you do look younger than you.
	Well, it's funny because I picked up this.
	Well, I mean, I think I got picked up on at the Urgent Care for my dog, 27.
	So I didn't know he was 27.
	So that's a pretty big gap.
	13 years?
	Okay.
	Oldest, 25.
	What about you?
	25 years?
	No, you're 25.
	I'm 25 years old.
	Like 24 years old.
	Seven years.
	I think it depends.
	I mean, my husband's 11 years older than me, so I'm fine with age gaps.
	But I think if somebody is like 30 years older or 20 years older and they're just like a slob and clearly look their age, and this is like a hot young model that's clearly transactional.
	I mean, he's not bad looking, so I could see why that age gap was there.
	I think it just depends.
	Would you date Ryan Reynolds?
	How old is he?
	In a heartbeat.
	47.
	In a heartbeat.
	He's my favorite.
	Without having known his age, would you have dated him then?
	He could pass for 30s.
	Oh, I love him so much.
	He's funny.
	He's the funniest guy.
	What's your favorite band?
	My favorite band?
	The Bee Gees or Queen.
	Would you date Freddie Mercury?
	He is dead.
	And gay.
	And gay.
	I was like, wait.
	And gay.
	Yeah.
	Rip.
	Sorry, Freddie Mercury from Beyond the Grave.
	What a great movie.
	I tried to set you up, bro.
	Wait, great movie.
	Oh, the movie.
	Bohemian Rapstead.
	It was so good.
	It was okay.
	I think he was a social job.
	I think Sasha Baron Cohen should have honestly.
	I love him too.
	He was originally cast.
	Borat.
	Borat was originally cast as that guy.
	So we're going to lower the TTS boys to $29.99.
	Uh-oh.
	It should be there.
	Let me just get everything switched over.
	We're going to do a roast section.
	We'll do the bumble section.
	We haven't done it in a while.
	And then we're going to wrap up.
	So, Nick, if you can get Bumble running, where is Hold on one sec.
	This girl needs snacks.
	You know what you need?
	I keep thinking about that pizza.
	Like, girls, I'm sorry, come back, bring me pizza.
	Alright.
	We're gonna do a bumble segment.
	You each get 20 swipes.
	Oh, age range for you?
	What do you mean, age range?
	Oh, of men, like you would date.
	Clearly, I have a vanilla saps.
	I'm 36.
	I would not go below 40.
	I like older.
	So 40 and above?
	Yeah, 40 to like 55-ish.
	I don't really have like a set age because it depends on how they look and how they take care of themselves.
	Word?
	Word.
	But I'm not into younger guys.
	Oh, no, I'm not into them.
	They just gravitate toward me.
	So just like you said.
	Okay, you get 20 swipes, yes or no?
	No.
	We're probably gonna say no to everyone.
	He super swiped you.
	No.
	Nikki.
	Am I supposed to say no to that?
	No.
	I was like, that's the photo?
	No.
	Really?
	No.
	You can have it.
	Dax.
	What up?
	No.
	No.
	Oh, my God.
	No.
	Do you need to just set these up to me?
	No, they're not.
	No.
	No.
	I want to see your profile picture, Nikki.
	No.
	I know, I know.
	Is that a.
	No.
	Damn, bro.
	No.
	Damn.
	No.
	This is why I would never be able to do online dating, though.
	You gotta be close.
	You're too far from the mic.
	No.
	No.
	That's funny.
	No.
	Is that no for all of them?
	Yeah.
	Period.
	Okay.
	Let's do Morgan.
	Let's get Morgan.
	Morgan went out.
	1825.
	we're gonna see what morgan's type is it's funny because when i was 21 i used to think guys who were 25 were so old No.
	Mike.
	Oh, punch my old soul.
	Huh?
	No.
	Really?
	No.
	Don't be my sweet tweet.
	No.
	No.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Is that a dude?
	No.
	That's a woman.
	No.
	No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.
	I can't see us. No.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Do you like the lighter features?
	Okay.
	So, what about you?
	I don't know.
	I usually put like 35 to like 47.
	It's kind of smell.
	Honestly, what's out there?
	Lol Paladins donated $30.
	You always ask these girls if they date an older man.
	But you never ask us men if we date these trumpets.
	The answer is no.
	Also, Elden Ring New DLC has strumped.
	Okay, Tom.
	Thank you, Law Paladins.
	That was beautiful.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I think, are we ready to go for her?
	No.
	No.
	Maybe, actually.
	No.
	Yes.
	You look serious.
	Nope.
	No.
	No.
	Don't know what that is.
	No.
	No.
	Gustavo.
	Is that you?
	Joe Murphy donated $69.
	Yeah, thank you, Joe.
	Ladies, if you think you're statically safer with a bear, you're ideologically possessed by postmodern feminism.
	Who can specifically describe what feminism is?
	Bonus points if you know for real I have to say answer.
	Everybody?
	Feminism is what's fucked our world up.
	Go ahead.
	This is your passion.
	I'm not a feminist.
	I'm not a feminist.
	You're not a feminist.
	No, we're not feminists.
	Oh, wait.
	Actually, I had one last note for you before we get back into the dating app review.
	I think originally when you reached out, we were trying to get a bunch of your girlfriends on, but you said they all chickened out besides Sonia here, who's a legend.
	Thank you very much.
	One of them said, Warlord 69, you woo donated $30.
	Thank you, bro.
	Brian, rate the panel on how long they survive in the woods alone.
	I like this.
	They have 100 days to survive.
	Hmm.
	How to survive.
	Damn, this is a tough one.
	Feminism has lied to everyone donated $30.
	The two in the corner who rage quit are the epitome of feminist indoctrination, such that they challenge anything that goes against their worldview and must be right with the last word in everything.
	Yo, thank you, man.
	Honestly, I don't think any of you would survive.
	What was it?
	At 30 days in the woods?
	I don't know.
	Oh, 100 days?
	I'm sorry.
	Y'all dead.
	How many of you have to do it?
	No, like 100 days.
	So how many days we would survive out of 100 days?
	What's everybody's body fat percentage?
	I think like 70.
	Currently, I probably live the longest.
	So I think half of you would be able to find water.
	There's also like the whole, you know, you need to, you know, start a fire, keep heat.
	I could do that.
	I'll grant you fine.
	It's summertime, so you won't die of exposure.
	Oh, job, heat.
	I'd rather be in the car.
	But if you're in the woods, I mean, you have shade.
	I know.
	I could last die really fast.
	As long as it's not the feet.
	What is that?
	The naked and afraid?
	As long as I got clothes on, I guess that I'd survive until almost the end.
	And then at like the last time.
	99.
	How much can a human survive just like no food, no water again?
	What is it?
	Air is five minutes without 40 days.
	You have air.
	You can't survive without air for like a minute.
	Water, no, yeah.
	Water, 72 hours.
	Food, food even go for like a while.
	I feel like all of us would last at least a week.
	Chat, how long can you go without food?
	Is it like two weeks?
	Food?
	Well, no, because people are.
	Yeah, but there's fruit.
	I don't know.
	I just know it also, you have to be drinking like mineral water when you fast too, right?
	I give you guys like a fortnight.
	And that's like a fortnight?
	I feel like I could do two.
	You don't know what a fortnight is?
	It's okay.
	It's like a game.
	It's 14.
	No, it's a game.
	It's 14 days.
	14 days?
	Yeah, that's what I do.
	I'm sorry, it's 14 days.
	Most people.
	It's okay.
	I'm not dunking on you because you don't know.
	No, it's fine.
	But I was saying I would probably give it two weeks, too.
	Maddie doesn't know what a fortnight is.
	I'm staying away from my dog.
	That's too long.
	Three weeks on average.
	I try my best.
	I honestly found out what Fortnite was because at work.
	That's good.
	Bumble, we're still still gotta finish up for data.
	I was not done swiping.
	Maybe, because he has dogs.
	No, no, no, great pick.
	What the fuck?
	I'm hungry, so love that.
	No, no, you fly southwest.
	It depends which one it is.
	Lol Paladins donated $30.
	Lineage could live a fortnight longer than her.
	The fuck you say to me, you little shit!
	How are you not in fucking school?
	You kiss your mother with that mouth?
	It's called you kiss.
	It's called you kiss your mother with that fucking mouth.
	Huh?
	I know why are you so angry?
	Because the fucking youth of sister.
	Maddie, you shut up when I'm talking to you.
	You shut your mouth, bro.
	Lol Paladins, what the fuck?
	I've never triggered that, by the way, in like 200 episodes.
	So thank you for the uh for the alley oop, bro.
	Appreciate it.
	Uh bumble.
	Was that 20 or 20?
	I think it was 20.
	I think there was like one left.
	No.
	I skipped this segment.
	I literally have sounds on my soundboard I've never fucking triggered.
	I'm gonna say what makes you listen to a sound and be like, I'm putting that on my stream deck.
	It's funny, I have some weird ones on mine.
	It doesn't matter what you think.
	What did he even say?
	Okay.
	It doesn't matter what you think.
	It doesn't matter.
	Oh.
	Did we finish with her?
	Yes.
	Are we doing Maddie or we'll do My Girl Should Janara?
	Sorry.
	Yes.
	Yeah, let's do it.
	Age range of guys you date.
	You said 18 to 18 to 22.
	22.
	18 to 22.
	All right, boys, we're going to get her a date.
	Who's not a bitch?
	A rebound.
	She don't mess with no bitches, boys.
	No.
	I feel like that was like three days ago when we started this conversation.
	That might be your blood.
	What is this Star Trek nonsense?
	That's Star Wars.
	Is that Photoshop?
	Yes.
	No.
	No.
	You don't like his little tattoo, anime tattoo?
	Yes.
	Yes, to this guy?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	No.
	No.
	Damn, bro.
	No. No. No.
	It's kind of racist.
	Don't say yes.
	No.
	Yes.
	Oh, boy.
	No.
	That's a child.
	No.
	No.
	Yes.
	Oh, I love that food.
	Chinese donut.
	No.
	That's all.
	That's all.
	That's 20.
	I always wonder what they think when they post their pictures with guys.
	What looks cool?
	Cool.
	Good times.
	Oh, Nick, you know what we should have done, bro?
	Oh, did you tell the red-haired girl who left in your private chat the whole like they're just waiting, they're chilling?
	I didn't.
	We kind of spoke about it down there, and I should have.
	Yeah, it's okay.
	It's all good.
	Did you just say it's an excuse that she could leave?
	Okay.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Do you guys want to do the bumble thing or impropriety because you guys are?
	I guess I should have skipped it for you, too.
	Okay.
	All right.
	She said no to all of us.
	Or we could do Lizzie really quick, and she could say if she was single what her type is.
	We could definitely.
	Okay.
	Okay, fi uh I think this is the final question.
	Do you consider yourself a feminist going around the table starting with you?
	No.
	No.
	You already did on this earlier.
	No.
	Yeah.
	Damn, I shouldn't have told those chicks to shut the fuck up.
	No.
	No.
	Oh, man.
	I fumbled, bro.
	I fumbled.
	Fumbled the bag.
	Kind of like Janara fumbled the bag with that really nice guy who didn't want her to vape and was just looking out for her.
	Bruh, he vaped too.
	Oh, he vaped too?
	He vaped too.
	And smoked weed, right?
	And drank balcony.
	So maybe he wasn't.
	Michigan Christian donated $30.
	We are patriots.
	We are Donald Trump.
	We will not be stopped, not even with bullets.
	Make America great again.
	Deport all illegals.
	Return power to state.
	Okay.
	Return to Christ.
	Oh, repeal.
	And yes, repeal the 19.
	Guys, get your roasts in.
	Get your roasts in, boys.
	We're going to let a few come in, and then we're going to wrap the show.
	While we're doing that, any final thoughts from anybody?
	Anything you guys want to argue on, debate on, talk about?
	Any dating stuff?
	Anything before we wrap up here?
	Jessica, I know you're dying to drop some truth bombs.
	I don't know if I have anything.
	I have a question.
	What's up?
	Say you were in like, what's like a decent length of a relationship?
	Like six months, a year?
	Say you broke up with that person.
	What is a good amount of time to take to yourself to heal?
	Depends on what you're doing.
	Are you asking me or just everybody?
	Like everyone.
	It depends on the nature of the relationship, but what did they say?
	They say like you have to wait the whole, what's the equivalent?
	Twice to wait half the time.
	Half the time.
	Half the time how long the relationship is.
	Like if the relationship was six months, then you'd wait three months.
	Oh, okay.
	But that's like rule of thumb.
	It honestly just depends on where you are.
	I think it's different for everyone.
	You don't marry.
	You don't have to do it.
	I think they more so say that's how long it takes to heal.
	But it doesn't preclude you from dating.
	So if you date somebody two years, it's going to take you a year to get over that shit.
	Date somebody for six years is going to take you.
	Damn, three years, really?
	Damn.
	I feel like bitch-ass motherfuckers.
	I wouldn't date for so long if I like ever did.
	You would end up breaking with my boyfriend.
	What would happen?
	You would just become a nun?
	Yeah.
	I probably would.
	Wait, so how long would you be grieving?
	Probably like five to ten years.
	Shut up.
	Okay, five years.
	I probably wouldn't date.
	You guys have been dating for what?
	Two years?
	Yeah, almost years.
	You're going to grieve a two-year relationship for five years, Maddie?
	Yeah.
	I actually think I probably wouldn't date for five years.
	You wouldn't take five years?
	Wouldn't date for five years.
	After you and Frankie.
	So Frankie dumps you right now.
	You're not dating for five years.
	Probably.
	Bro, stop the cat.
	I promise you, I probably wouldn't date for five years.
	That's Cap.
	I'm really serious about him.
	Desert Joe donated $30.
	Do you think that's Cap?
	Brixon, nice hire with Morgan.
	But where is her warrior hat?
	Total fail.
	Also, what happened to Gustavo?
	Did you kill him off?
	Maddie, what happened to you?
	He died, bro.
	He literally fell off the balcony.
	What the hey?
	That's really insensitive to say that, Maddie.
	People fall off.
	Balconies and die?
	Off the cliffs in here, here.
	I wasn't thinking about that.
	How dare you?
	I didn't say the cliffs.
	Lol Paladins donated $30.
	My ex dated me for five years and she waited about five hours before getting underneath some elsewhere.
	No, women ain't doing better.
	Thank you, John.
	Justin Martin's donated $30.
	Maddie drives a master boom roasted.
	I boom roasted.
	I drive a Toyota.
	Oh shit.
	W's in the chat for Maddie's Toyota.
	Okay, the Mazdas are like Miatas.
	MX5 donated $30.
	Miatas are cool and you hurt my feelings.
	Is this from like two shows ago when I was dunking on Mazda Miata's?
	I love Miata's.
	We literally like talking crap.
	Nobody wants to get in your Mazda truck.
	Oh wait, that's for July 4th?
	Yeah.
	The dude with the Mazda.
	Yeah.
	Oh, he drove by and he was like shitty YouTube.
	He was like, nobody wants to be in your video.
	Brian was like, nobody wants to be in your shitty Mazda truck.
	That's true, I did say that.
	Lord Bouler donated $30.
	Ladies, we all know what the dating world is like for single mothers.
	I would like to know what your take on single fathers would be.
	Disregard age.
	Much love, everyone.
	LB, pronounced Boule.
	Nickelodeon donated $30.
	Men are expected to catch a bullet for their girl.
	More interesting, would you jump in front to protect the president?
	How are we supposed to roast well-behaved sweet ladies?
	Maddie, put on Murica hat.
	Time release underscore one donated $30.
	Warning, warning.
	Science shows that taller people are more susceptible to cancer.
	If women keep breeding specifically with taller men along with the birth crisis, the human population will be extinct.
	That's true, bro.
	That's crazy.
	Yes.
	Taller people more susceptible to cancer?
	Barely?
	Is that true?
	Sorry, Desmond.
	So, going back to Lord Buell, he's take on single fathers.
	Would you date?
	Just show of hands, would you date a single father?
	I used to not Michigan Christian donated $30.
	Women voting should be based on whether they're draftable.
	You serious?
	That's loose pussy energy.
	Men make better decisions than women, and that is why women shouldn't be allowed to vote.
	Disavow.
	I disavow.
	Disavow.
	I think we should draft women.
	Okay.
	And oh, going to Nickelodeon.
	Nick, could you pull up that photo of the Secret Service lady who's like hiding behind?
	Who's like hiding?
	So there was a lady in the front and then a lady.
	Yeah, there's a lady in the front and then there's a lady in the back.
	I only saw the one in the front.
	There were three.
	Ace underscore lens donated $30.
	You can only pick one, allowed access to contraception and have to sign up for the draft.
	Or never be forced to sign up for the draft and not allowed access to contraception.
	So starting with you, which one do you pick?
	The first or the second?
	Second.
	Second.
	To be honest.
	First, I think.
	Second.
	The second was no contraception.
	Ulysses the Pagan donated $30.
	Biden versus Stairs.
	Trump versus Bullets.
	MAGA wins.
	I like the bike better.
	Imagine, though.
	Like, I do wonder, do you think the assassination attempt is enough to have, like, gives him the win?
	Yes.
	Do you think it gives Trump the W?
	Yeah, like a lot of people.
	For the election, is what I'm saying.
	If he goes through all of that and he doesn't win, then what was it all for?
	Then it's suspect.
	For the friends we made along the way.
	Lol Paladins donated $30.
	Birth rate plummeting is the biggest crisis facing this planet.
	Good on you for the women of the planet willing to save it rather than hedonistic pleasure.
	The women without babies quit killing Earth.
	Thank you, law parliaments.
	Appreciate it.
	Joe Murphy donated $30.
	The dating apps are indeed a modern day dating hellscape.
	Stay away, everyone.
	Yep.
	Roughly 80% of females over 30 on the apps of children.
	That's a massive liability taking on another man's children.
	Damn.
	Word.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Joe Murphy.
	Yeah, I mean, look, if you don't want to date somebody who has a child, I think that's totally fine.
	Probably for the best for the sake of the mom, father, or child.
	If you don't want to date somebody who has a kid, man.
	Wait, so Maddie, you would take five years to get five.
	I would probably take like one full year after to like actually like probably get back to my normal groove.
	Yeah.
	And then I'd probably take another year after that to just I wouldn't date for at least like okay, now you're kind of making me seem like I'm crazy.
	So look, it could be valid.
	Me personally, if I dated three to five, I think that's a sign of a good girl there.
	Like for me, for me personally, if I was dating a chick for six months, I would kind of want her to be like, never date again.
	Like that would be such an ego boost.
	But I don't even want to.
	We dated for six months and you become a nun?
	Like you couldn't love anybody else.
	I don't think I would be a nun.
	I wouldn't be a good kid.
	I still don't marry to have kids.
	That's actually even if we don't date, I think that should be the standard of like what would be a good woman.
	Like she loves you so much, even after you break up, she still loves you.
	She refuses to date again.
	Right, Morgan?
	No.
	No?
	I think after my last relationship, the one that was four years.
	I would become a nun until we get back together again.
	I'm like the romantic one.
	I'm romantic.
	I will sell.
	I would become a nun until he's ready to get back with me.
	Bruh.
	Okay.
	Here's the.
	Okay.
	This is the scenario, right?
	I leave on a ship.
	I leave on a ship.
	This is before cell phones and shit.
	The man leaves on the ship.
	The woman's standing on a cliff.
	And she stands there.
	And she's like, I will not leave this spot until my man comes back.
	Isn't there something that I'm doing?
	And she waits 20 years.
	20 years for a man.
	That's what I think.
	If I match with some chick on Tinder and we like fuck for six months, I think she should never date again.
	She should be.
	20 years is all I think if I date a girl for six months she should just never that's how she shows loyalty to me Maddie donated $30.
	Sure.
	8 at 18 forever.
	8 at 18 forever.
	Okay.
	I'm offended.
	Is it the Pokemon episode?
	I don't know.
	I feel like it was a cartoon.
	Wait, but okay, here's a question, Maddie.
	How long do you think Frankie would wait?
	I think we would both probably like three to five years.
	Genuinely.
	Ah, okay.
	I can't speak for him.
	He'd probably maybe wait less.
	Like a couple weeks, you think?
	Maybe like a little less than a year?
	A year?
	I would hope longer than that.
	Would you girls be upset if you broke up with a guy you're dating for like two years?
	You broke up with him, though.
	And then, like, but otherwise, like, good relationship, kind of.
	Defaung your underscore clo5 donated $30.
	Yeah, thank you, man.
	Bear versus man.
	Anyone who picks bear is a liar or dumb.
	If you can't scroll through nature's metal on Instagram without looking away, never pick bear.
	Lol Paladins donated $30.
	You've had so many alpha widows on the show.
	Remember the girl that lived in a car with her boyfriend and didn't get over him?
	That is some good D right there.
	Bet Brixon has never done that.
	You don't get the sound anymore, bro.
	I gave you the sound, but now that you said that, sound revoked.
	You're the only person who has a sound, and you just got it revoked, bro.
	What was your question?
	If a guy moved on.
	Digmatized?
	Huh?
	What?
	Or if you broke up with a guy, otherwise give up.
	Oh, you broke up with a guy dating for a year and then he smashes a girl the next day.
	Are you upset?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	You broke up with him.
	Probably because he was doing something wrong.
	Bruh.
	I sound like a single person.
	So wait, you would be upset.
	You would be upset?
	Yes.
	Of course.
	Why wouldn't you?
	You'd be upset.
	Okay.
	Because you're probably thinking about that girl throughout the whole entire relationship.
	Ah, bro.
	I just got the Riz.
	She just came into the picture.
	I just think that if you're like, if you're, I guess, um, every man wants a woman as committed to him as Steve Irwin's wife is to him.
	Even after all this time, she hasn't been on a date and focuses on family instead.
	Big W. R.I.P. Steve Irwin.
	Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
	Yeah, is it like if I pass away and like she just don't want her to date anybody after me after I die?
	Is that greedy?
	No, I'm not.
	Is that greedy?
	Almost every person does that.
	How old are you?
	Huh?
	How old are you?
	No, I mean, like, when you die without a goal when you die.
	I'm 21.
	And she's 21.
	Okay.
	I think.
	Brian's Chair 2024 donated $30.
	Maga Gaga Gaga Gaga.
	Make America great and glorious and good and gruesome and gigantic and gluey and gooey again.
	Alliteration.
	Well done, bro.
	Let me see.
	Do it again.
	That's wild.
	Do it again, bro.
	That was great.
	Did you open this photo?
	Yeah, we can pull it up.
	Is this it?
	There was another one.
	Wait, there was another one.
	Wait, there's a guy in the back.
	No, it's short.
	There's like a different one.
	And honestly, it doesn't even matter.
	You were going to say something, L-Dog.
	I was going to say that if their solution is to just like get sex right after a breakup, you kind of question like if that person even really shouldn't have broken up with him.
	Maybe he's going to gas like the fucking option right.
	I'm out of gas.
	So if she dies, are you allowed to date?
	No, she dies.
	I'll mourn for like two weeks.
	Oh, I will mourn.
	I will mourn for two weeks.
	After the two weeks, I can get Jiggy War.
	Warlord 69, you donated $30.
	Brian, base blue dresses answer on how long she survives for 100 days.
	Can I get a sound?
	What?
	Wait, base blue dresses answer on that.
	How long do you survive for 100 days?
	On what?
	Can I give Uwu?
	I guess I could give him a sound.
	Hold on.
	Ew?
	There you go, bro.
	Bro, you're going to have to drop another, though, since I just gave you a sound.
	Boom.
	Wait, what were we talking about?
	The waiting until.
	Yeah.
	Dying.
	Yep, we got it.
	I think it's worth if you have kids.
	You should wait way longer if you have kids.
	Oh, yeah.
	Because the kids have to process it and like, how could you get mad at the guy if you break up with him and then he goes out and like hooks up with another chick right away?
	We were on a break on why you broke up with him.
	I think it fully depends on the damage.
	He was too good to you.
	That's why you broke up with him.
	Oh, by all means.
	Yeah, go do your go do your thing because that's on me then.
	You broke up with him because he couldn't keep up with your sex drive.
	Have you all seen that?
	No offense.
	That's the worst possible scenario.
	Well, he has a sex drive.
	Then I would be mad.
	I'm not saying you wouldn't do that in the relationship.
	Have you guys seen that meme where it's marriage?
	Have you guys seen that meme where it's like guys say they want a girl with a high sex drive until they meet a girl who wants to fuck six times a day?
	Have you guys seen that?
	Man.
	I'm too innocent for that.
	I don't know.
	You're too well.
	I'm too innocent.
	Really?
	Really, though?
	Yes.
	I don't know.
	I think as soon as the breakup occurs, you can go right back.
	Nickelodeon donated $30.
	You know what I mean?
	Speaking of moving on too quick, chick next to Brian.
	You said G.I. Joe was just a friend before you started dating.
	Was that what you told the ex you dated before him?
	I don't need a sound.
	I got props.
	I didn't become friends with him until after my last relationship.
	So we didn't know each other when I was dating my last relationship.
	Huh.
	Good times.
	Good times, good times.
	Okay, cool.
	Any final, any other final things before we wrap up here, guys?
	Nick, I'm going to get a raid going.
	No, just thinking about I'll be home up for you.
	Oh, dude.
	Okay, hold on.
	Check this shit out, right?
	I'm going to fuck.
	Today's Sunday, right?
	Please tell me it's Sunday.
	Oh, I'm going to go home and watch House of the Dragon.
	W. I'm sorry, that was cringe.
	I hope you have a good time.
	I love this for you.
	Did you guys, yo, chat, chat, chat, chat?
	Did you guys see the fucking episode last week, bro?
	Holy fuck.
	Honestly, one of the best, one of the best fucking episodes.
	Screw Game of Thrones.
	I think it's one of the best episodes in the entire fucking franchise, boys.
	So good.
	House of the Dragon better than Game of Thrones.
	Chat.
	I hope so too.
	Opening this up to the chat.
	What's better?
	House of the Dragon or Game of Thrones?
	But is it still like ongoing or is there like seasons?
	I can't commit unless there's like at least four seasons.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	They're gonna fucking spoil the shit for me.
	Hide the chat, Nick.
	They're gonna spoil this shit for me.
	Game of Thrones is already done.
	Well, yeah, that's a good idea.
	Oh, fuck, fuck, fuck.
	Okay, they're gonna spoil.
	They have two seasons right now.
	See, I can't commit unless episodes three because then I would have to wait to Lulu.
	Why's that?
	Because I'm so tired.
	I feel like my lower half body is asleep.
	Well, numb at this point.
	Okay, final question.
	Okay, so you are a lady and you're best friends with a princess.
	And this princess, she actually is named heir to the throne.
	So she's going to be queen, right?
	You find out that she actually hold on.
	Reversing the roles.
	You're the princess.
	You have a friend who's like nobility.
	She is.
	Is she like a nobody?
	She's a lady.
	And so your dad's the king.
	You're going to be the queen one day.
	You're named heir.
	You're a princess.
	Your friend, her dad is like the number one consultant for the king, the hand of the king.
	So, like, number two in charge, kind of.
	Your friend gets, uh, oh, your mom passes away in childbirth.
	Your mom passes away in childbirth.
	You were going to have a sibling, but yeah.
	So, uh, because your mom passed away in childbirth, Joe Murphy donated $30.
	Ladies, raise your hand if you have ever camped for five days.
	The big tree forest is the best spot to test out your camping skills.
	Don't forget to bring Bess Bray.
	That was our favorite thing.
	We used to go for New Year's.
	So, reminder: here, you're the princess.
	Your friend, your mom just, you know, died in childbirth.
	And then the king has to remarry.
	Your father has to remarry.
	It's his duty.
	He has to remarry.
	He has to try to have more heirs, more children.
	So he marries your best friend who's like 20, like your age, right?
	And then, like, so that complicates now, your best friend is technically your mom.
	And then she gets pregnant a bunch of times and she has sons and you're the heir to the throne, but those sons are going to be potential, you know, they're going to have to try to make a claim potentially to your throne.
	And how do you feel about your best friend fucking your dad the king?
	What the fuck?
	That's what happened.
	Were you not following?
	Were you not following?
	I mean, the sons, it's going to take a while for them to claim to the throne, so that's fine.
	I can be a princess.
	I don't have to make decisions.
	I love this for me.
	My best friend knows me, so she knows what I love.
	And it's my mom now.
	My dad's happy.
	I'm happy.
	I think it works.
	Win-win.
	I'm all for it.
	You're fine with your best friend fucking your dad.
	Low paladins donated $30.
	Sorry, I don't talk in a you woo voice.
	I don't know what you expected me to do.
	No.
	No.
	Can we get a new woo from each of the girls on the panel?
	Yeah, we can do that.
	Starting with Lizzie here.
	What's Uwu?
	Uwu?
	Hold on.
	Uwu?
	You have to do that, guys.
	You have to give it your best friend.
	Everyone is so Asian.
	We cannot end the street.
	You're going to sound so easy.
	We cannot end the stream until every girl here does it.
	I'm not doing it.
	I'm not into it.
	You got this, Lizzie.
	You got this.
	I'll just do it for the both of us.
	I'm going to change the TTS voice to a French guy.
	I'm literally going to cry.
	I'm changing the TTS to a French guy.
	Let's sound.
	Actually, do we.
	I'm changing it to a German guy, boys.
	No.
	TTS is now German.
	TTS is now German.
	His name is Hans.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So.
	Uwu.
	Anybody?
	Uwu, let's hear it.
	What?
	Hey, Brian.
	Have you seen the plastic surgeon guessing each of UK Love Island cast?
	They've all been ruined by excessive plastic surgery.
	That sounds so much more fun.
	Yeah, yeah, definitely.
	Okay, I'm now going to change it to a game.
	I'm going to give us Giorgio.
	Can you give it Australian?
	Giorgio.
	I can do Australian if they come in.
	Wait, Uwu?
	Anybody?
	She was down.
	You're going to do an Uwu?
	Let's hear the Uwoo.
	I thought she was coming.
	How do you do her?
	I'm good.
	You got it.
	Who's going to do it?
	Somebody's got to do it.
	I don't know.
	You know how you do it.
	J-Dog.
	Let's hear it.
	Do I just go?
	Yeah, just go.
	He's got this.
	Oh, that was good.
	That was good.
	That was good.
	Wow, good job.
	That was good.
	Oh, you practiced that.
	Yeah, it's actually a press out.
	Best 30.
	Blue dress was that the king's order that you accepted or the hand's orders.
	Blue dress was that the king's order that you accepted or the hand's orders?
	Was that...
	Oh, ooh.
	Lol Paladis donated 30 dollari.
	Ugo Rayago, your choice.
	No, what?
	I'm going to change that to.
	That's disgusting.
	Hold on.
	Since that, I'm going to change it to Japanese and I'm going to re-trigger it.
	Roll Paladins donated $30.
	Who are here?
	Your choice.
	It didn't hit.
	It didn't really.
	Yeah.
	Hold on.
	Let me see if I can.
	Hold on.
	But that was really changing this question.
	Thanks.
	Nolparadins donated $30.
	Who are your choice?
	That was better.
	What did we want?
	We did- We didn't do French.
	Hold on.
	I'm going to do French.
	Australian.
	Wait, one sec.
	I'm going to do Remy.
	We're going to do Remy for the French.
	Thank you.
	What were you?
	Anybody else with the U?
	Wait, what were we talking about before that?
	The game.
	Oh, oh, guys.
	Yeah, okay.
	Your best friend, your best friend fucks your dad, marries him, and has children, which will potentially challenge your claim to the Iron Throne.
	No issues?
	Don't really have a choice.
	Lizzie?
	You don't have a choice.
	Lizzie?
	Yeah, I don't have a choice, so I'm just going to let it go.
	Yeah, but you can, you know, not be friends with her anymore.
	She just went.
	Yo, Lizzie, your best friend fucks your dad.
	Yeah, no, I wouldn't be friends with her anymore.
	What about you?
	Yeah, I couldn't do it.
	No.
	Well, if it was like the only choice, I'd feel weird at first, but then I'd be like, but this is what had to happen.
	Like, imagine having those conversations with your friends.
	It had to happen.
	Well, we're not going to have those conversations anymore.
	Is my dad going to marry someone else?
	No.
	Is that a choice?
	No, he could marry somebody else.
	Okay, what?
	I thought I thought he married the best friend.
	I thought that was the only choice.
	He could have married.
	Well, I don't want to get in.
	This is like tier 10.
	So was that his choice or the hands?
	He could have married anyone else.
	Like a Valerian.
	But that chick was a bit too young for him.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	Now, the High Towers.
	The High Towers, it was kind of a canonical decision.
	He had to.
	You know, the High Towers were a very powerful family.
	Very powerful house.
	Is this, is it wrong?
	Is this kind of spoilers?
	Like, first season two years ago?
	I was going to say, this is you're talking about the first season, right?
	Yeah, first season, first few episodes.
	Like first few episodes.
	But I'm obsessed with your eyelid.
	I got it.
	I'm just realizing who you look like.
	Oh my God.
	Who's she looking into the mic?
	She literally looks like the what's her name, Laura from 365 Days.
	Can somebody roast him, Hattie?
	Oh, I wouldn't mind having him.
	Somebody roast Morgan.
	Somebody roast us.
	There were like too many sims for Morgan last show, so I feel like she got roasted a little bit.
	You're Morgan?
	Morgan needs a roast.
	I'm obsessed with Morgan.
	They won't start roasting her for about another couple months.
	She's nice to you.
	She's got a lot of people.
	You're just going to get compliments.
	I know.
	A little compliment circle.
	Yeah.
	You've done well.
	So option A. Brian always brings the most beautiful women on his podcast.
	Delicious.
	Wait, so any thoughts?
	You'd be cool with your best friend.
	No.
	Scoot the mic a little close to you.
	What do you do with your mother?
	Wait, what the fuck?
	If roles were reversed, I would disown.
	Well, I mean, if there's another option now, if that was the only option, that's different.
	But check this out, right?
	So you also, you get married to a gay guy.
	But, yeah, you get married to a gay guy, but then you fake his, oh my god, I shouldn't spoil this.
	What is happening?
	Now you're talking about specificism.
	Don't spoil it.
	You're talking about the second season now?
	Huh?
	What are you talking about?
	This is still first season, but I shouldn't spoil it.
	Okay, never mind.
	I'm sorry.
	Now I want to watch it because that one's a lot of fun.
	It came out two years.
	I want to watch the second, but Frankie said.
	Bro, House of the Dragon.
	I think.
	Oh, I didn't.
	Wait, chat.
	Nick, pull up the chat.
	You said don't ruin it for you.
	Chat.
	Oh, that's right.
	Never mind.
	Don't show it.
	But chat, do you prefer House of the Dragon or Game of Thrones?
	I gotta say House of the Dragon.
	I think it's better.
	I think it's better.
	Anyways, with that said, unless anyone has any final thoughts, we gotta wrap up the show.
	Going once.
	Going twice.
	Going three times.
	Okay, we're gonna wrap.
	I need to get food.
	In and out.
	Maybe.
	We'll see.
	I don't know.
	I'm not kidding.
	Okay, we're gonna raid Woe Grandma.
	Nick, if you can get that going.
	Yo, actually, yeah, thank you, Nick.
	Guys, if you're still watching.
	When he first read the red wedding, my Kindle went flying.
	Sorry that everyone else had to wait the years to see that ent vest but glad that it did.
	Morgan looks like she'd throw a boy out of a tower.
	She would slide tackle that.
	Game of Thrones was epic until the last two seasons.
	Yep.
	The whole series is trash now.
	House of Dragon is great, but it all means nothing because of how Gottend did.
	Demon dies in the middle.
	Nah, shut the fuck up, bro.
	No, bro.
	Blue dress, the same reason you touch up your hair every time you look at the camera.
	There's no fucking way Damon dies.
	No fucking way Damon dies.
	I see it.
	He does.
	There's annoying.
	Shut the fuck out of here.
	I didn't watch it, but Frankie watches it.
	Wife and he watch it every time.
	Blue dress-based RF.
	They don't have to enjoy reacting to podcasts tonight.
	Okay, I'll put it on to Australian.
	Sorry, I kept it on French for way too much.
	Yeah, I would like to hear these compliments in the language I can understand.
	Australian.
	Just kidding.
	I haven't seen the episode yet.
	There's no.
	Damn it.
	You can't retract it.
	He just psyched.
	Okay, it's set to Australian, I guess.
	It's set to Australian.
	I have selective hearing.
	I first heard the first one.
	We're going to put, we're going to give it to Russell.
	Okay, if anybody wants to let any come through, so, oh, Twitch, really quick, Nick.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow, drop us a prime sub.
	Guys, it's been one minute since we last got a prime.
	I'm pretty sure it's bugged, right, Maddie?
	Yeah, it's bugged.
	Tell them what to do, Maddie.
	Go test it out really fast.
	I think it's broken.
	Oh, yay.
	Thank you, Bench.
	He fixed it.
	Yo, yo, thank you guys so much for the primes.
	Really appreciate it.
	I hope, thank you guys for who watch on Twitch.
	We're trying to build our audience over there.
	We're going to be doing some Twitch exclusive stuff.
	So guys, if you're watching on YouTube, head on over to Twitch.
	Drop us a follow in the Prime sub if you haven't.
	Thank you guys so much for all the primes.
	Really appreciate it.
	You guys are fucking legends.
	You guys are.
	I'm a fucking legend.
	For you guys, I guess.
	Okay, cool.
	And then we're going to do a raid to Wo Grammar.
	But really quick, before we do that, GG, well played to the panel.
	Last call, hit the like button, please.
	On your way out, thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	We will be live again Tuesday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Got a very good show coming on Tuesday.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram.
	If you can make it to Santa Barbara, 07's in the chat.
	Michael Buckley, 111, donated $30.
	L-Dog, you're incredibly beautiful.
	Any chance you can let your hair down?
	Who's L-Dog?
	You're L-Dog.
	I don't get that nickname.
	L-Dog.
	No, I'm not going to put my Lol Paladins donated $30.
	You've never once had a good Australian on the show ever.
	Of all the bad Australians, the twins were the worst.
	Every other Australian was also bad.
	Well, what about Jake Rattlesnake?
	Jake Rattlesnake.
	He's good.
	He's good.
	Okay, we're going to.
	Above Killzero donated $30.
	Blue Dreys-based AM.
	Thank you.
	We enjoyed the discourse tonight.
	Much love.
	When you were going off at the two Delulu twins, I was like, go off, Queen.
	Okay.
	Honestly, like, I really held it in.
	Lord Bulner donated $30.
	Struth.
	Me and me, mate Beza were driving in the youth when some flamin' gala cut us off in some dodgy holding commo.
	We got out and had a bit of a blue or a bit of a dissed up, if you will, but talked it out.
	Okay.
	Oldman Maureen donated $30.
	House is the dragon is good, but would rather watch whatever kisses.
	Yo, Old Man Maureen, thank you for your TTS, man.
	Thank you, everybody else, for your TTSs.
	Really appreciate your patronage.
	It means the world couldn't do this podcast without you guys.
	So thank you guys so much.
	Really appreciate it.
	We are going to raid Woe Grandma.
	Woe Grandma.
	She's playing World of Warcraft retail.
	I'm going to go ahead and get that going in just a few seconds.
	I think she's always had glasses.
	But guys, on Twitch, be nice to her.
	She's 82.
	She's 82.
	She's playing World of Warcraft.
	She's got a better streaming setup than us.
	We're going to drop the raid right now.
	Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
	Have a good night, guys.
	Boom.
	What does it drop a raid?
	No, and that wouldn't work.
	We're two different kinds of streamers.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Julia, it's what?
	Oh, it's what?
	No, it's whatever.
	That's not Julia.
	Hello, whatever.
	Is the audio all the way?
	Ah, you don't need me.
	You just think you need me.
	Welcome, Raiders.
	All right.
	So now what?
	I gotta go on Twitch.
	Cool.
	Okay.
	And then I think we're all good here on YouTube.
	Okay, 07's in the chat.
	I hope you guys have a good night.
	We'll see you on Tuesday.

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