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2 RAGE QUITS?! Andrew Wilson! MANSPLAINING?! Social Justice Girl HEATED DEBATE! | Dating Talk #173

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	My name is Mia Huffman.
	I am 22 years old.
	I am from Los Angeles, originally Orange County, and I am currently a student and as well a content creator.
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	Studying architecture.
	Architecture.
	Okay.
	You want to build like targets and stuff?
	Just a big giant box store.
	Homes and all that stuff.
	Yeah, it requires architecture.
	Okay.
	All right, cool.
	What about you?
	All right.
	Hi, guys.
	My name is Izzy Cozier.
	I'm 21 years old, and I currently live in Santa Barbara County.
	I'm from Marin County, California, actually, and I moved here three years ago to pursue a degree at Santa Barbara City College.
	Currently studying real estate, and I also sell wine.
	Is real estate through the city college?
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay.
	So you're a junior?
	Yes.
	At the two-year university?
	How's that going?
	It's amazing.
	I'm not hating.
	It's not.
	Yeah.
	And shout out, don't you go by Coco?
	Yeah, I do.
	Okay.
	I don't know if you guys remember this.
	She's an OG.
	Coco here was on our first ever, whatever episode.
	This is the first ever.
	I'm pretty sure you were on the first and then the second.
	Episode one, episode two.
	And that was July 1st of 2022.
	So it's almost two-year anniversary here.
	Thank you.
	So welcome back.
	Thank you.
	And yeah, what are you doing?
	When you say you sell wine, what does that entail?
	So I've actually just gotten into a gig that my dad's been doing for the past 15 years.
	He sells wine in Costco's all over California.
	Okay, so you're not like making your own wine and selling it.
	That's not what you want.
	She crushes it with her own feet and she'll send you a bottle.
	Well, I mean, some people do.
	They make their own wine, right?
	So I was just curious.
	No, yeah.
	I guess I'm not as respectable as someone who makes their own wine, but I'm in sales for it and I love it.
	We should start a bidding war on the live stream for a one-of-one wine bottle from Izzy here.
	The experience is I'll drop it off myself.
	And you crushed it with yourself.
	Yes.
	The grapes or whatever.
	I don't know how.
	How do you make wine?
	I don't know.
	Toes.
	Isn't that?
	Toes.
	That's probably.
	Smush it.
	I don't.
	I don't really think they make wine that way anymore.
	They used to, though.
	Honestly.
	I think in some places they did, yeah.
	Imagine if OF girls, like, started selling wine, but it was...
	Like, stepped on?
	Yeah.
	Ryan, you're about to start a brand new genre on OnlyFans.
	Just stop.
	Oh, no.
	I'm giving them ideas.
	I need to trademark this shit.
	Some OF girls are going to start.
	What about you?
	So my name is Avery.
	I'm from Wyoming.
	I'm a student at the University of Hawaii in Hilo.
	And my major is biology.
	Age?
	23.
	23.
	What brings you to Santa Barbara?
	Just in town for summer?
	Yeah, just in town.
	I actually just moved here.
	Oh, you moved here?
	But are you going back to Hawaii?
	Maybe eventually.
	Oh, did you graduate from?
	You said the University of Hilo?
	Did you graduate?
	Not yet.
	I have like a year left.
	Are you planning to take online classes or?
	Yeah, online or I'll go back.
	I haven't decided yet.
	Okay.
	Well, how long is your lease here for?
	Six months.
	Six months.
	Okay.
	So you'll be taking, like you taking a semester quarter off?
	Yeah, I'll probably just do online in the fall.
	Okay, and you said you're studying biology?
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay.
	And you originally from Wyoming?
	Hilo, that's on Oahu?
	The big island.
	The big island.
	I don't know.
	I only know about the Maui in Oahu.
	Okay, all right.
	What about you?
	My name is Lizette.
	I was actually born and raised here in Santa Barbara.
	I got a great opportunity to study economics at UCSB.
	So I do that and also pursuing a minor in poverty, inequality, and social justice there.
	Okay.
	And do freelance work on the side for the summer.
	23.
	23, okay.
	And you said, what was your minor?
	Poverty, inequality, and poverty, inequality.
	And what was the last time?
	Social justice.
	Social justice.
	Okay, that'll be okay.
	Social justice.
	I swear it's a minor, y'all.
	You can look it up.
	I'm not lying.
	Yeah, no.
	And sorry, your major was?
	Economics.
	Economics, okay.
	And have you taken classes for that minor?
	Yes.
	What are some of the classes that one might take?
	Capitalism, yeah, history of U.S. capitalism.
	Capitalism.
	I took another one in geography, where basically geography went into agglomeration, things like that.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	No, no.
	No, you go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	I lost my train of thought.
	I don't know where I was going.
	Oh, yeah.
	What are some of the other classes you've taken in that for the minor?
	From titles, I guess.
	There's I'll Google it.
	Hold on.
	UCSB, UCSB minor.
	That's the whole name of the program.
	Damn, that's a lot of fun.
	Poverty, inequality, and social justice, yeah.
	Minor.
	Social justice.
	I feel like I've had to have taken like two or three more that I'm just blanking on.
	Offered through the Department of History, okay.
	Interdisciplinary.
	I'm trying to see if they like show you potential classes for that.
	Any gender-related stuff?
	Or so far, you said capitalism.
	There's a class on yeah, so far no gender-related issues or classes that I've partaken.
	And a lot of my classes have mainly just focused on economics.
	Economics.
	Anything like U.S. colonialism-related?
	Yes.
	I took history of economics during ancient periods, but then also took one looking at more recent periods, such as during colonization as well.
	All right, gotcha.
	So you're going into your senior year?
	Senior year.
	And what are your plans for after you graduate?
	You're going to go for your master's or start working?
	I was actually on, I was on track to continue on to grad school.
	It was very much focused on, yeah, sending out those letters.
	Unfortunately, I had an incident that set me back a little bit after I lost a friend.
	That kind of just made me rethink the whole, do I really want to dedicate the next five years of my life to school?
	Gotcha.
	Because I was more on the grad school track, not the, if I was going to do it, I was going to go all the way.
	And the incident, it was the loss of your friend.
	Okay.
	Sorry to hear that.
	And do you have a sense of kind of what you want to do when it comes to work?
	If you don't go the grad school route?
	I'm actually enrolled in two or an accounting class this summer.
	So part of the freelance work that I also do is with my friends who started up their own business in town.
	And they needed a bookkeeper, so I've been doing some of the bookkeeping for them.
	So accounting work is definitely something.
	There's an economics and accounting route that you can go through at UCSB.
	I always was just like, no, it's not really for me, but I do like my numbers.
	I do like money.
	Nice.
	You like your numbers and you like your money.
	Is that what you said?
	I feel like accountants, there's definitely a lot of people get like job placements right after they go through the program.
	Almost everyone does.
	Hey!
	Hey.
	That's my thing.
	That's your thing.
	And I saw on your Instagram, are you working for like a Santa Barbara local women in business thing?
	What's that?
	I actually, that's a club that I co-founded actually at UCSB.
	So I actually was at CC first and then I transferred over to UCSB.
	Me and a couple of our friends looked into other clubs, but kind of felt like we're just getting mansplained all the time.
	So started our own little thing.
	There's no business program at UCSB.
	They do have a TMP program, technology management program.
	So I feel like because though it wasn't a major, no one ever thought to do it.
	Women in Business is a club on almost every single campus here in California.
	So yeah, we started with I think like 30 dues paying members and it's grown to like I think over like 150 now.
	So and what's it called?
	The women in business?
	Just Santa Barbara women in business.
	UCSB web, yeah.
	Oh, it's a UCSB.
	Yeah, so it's yeah, a club that you guys meet like monthly, weekly, at least when school's in session?
	For as far as activities for the girlies, we do them probably at least twice a week, and this would go anywhere from like networking workshops to just like a little yoga de-stress midterms type deal.
	Sure.
	What's, I guess, what's the mission statement of the club?
	We really try to prepare girls for, or a lot of it was like resume workshops as well, bringing in other people to talk about their experiences too in different fields.
	So just giving our girls a mix of what's out there after college.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm shy.
	I'm from Australia.
	I'm 19 and my occupation is only fans.
	Okay.
	Welcome back, Shai.
	What about you?
	Me?
	Sorry.
	Oh, I, huh?
	Talking to me?
	Well, so we have kind of been going in order around the table, getting everything in the middle of the morning.
	No, I know, but she spoke for a long time and then.
	Oh, shy is just not that interesting.
	Sorry, okay.
	I apologize.
	We have similar names, so I was not sure.
	Go ahead, you're fine.
	Go ahead.
	My name is Sheena Ray.
	I live in Los Angeles.
	I'm a partner ownership in a med spy in Texas.
	I'm a certified injector.
	I was an actress in my country for 15 years and a writer.
	I'm also a certified meditation instructor.
	I just wrote my own book that comes in the next two months.
	I'm doing motivational speaking.
	This is my next career that I really, really love.
	Motivational speaking.
	Okay.
	And can you, uh, what, what is an injector?
	Uh, You know how people like to do Botox fillers?
	So I'm a certified injector.
	I specialize with Russian technique, European technique.
	Yeah.
	And this is what I do for the last 10 years.
	Okay.
	Do you self-inject or?
	Yes.
	I mean, I stopped last year because everybody around me were too injected, and I decided I don't want to look like a pattern, so I stopped Botoxing and I stopped doing everything.
	I just have leftovers.
	Okay.
	Age?
	I'm embarrassed.
	No, don't be embarrassed.
	We're all friends.
	I'm older than everybody here, probably.
	Can I say that I'm in my 40s?
	Well, Andrew's a vampire, so he's actually 173, so I'm not sure if I'm probably in Andrew's age.
	Yeah.
	So 50.
	So close.
	So 47?
	Yeah.
	I'm just going to write 50.
	Got it, got it.
	47.
	I nailed it out of a ball.
	You're officially 50, by the way.
	I mean, if you, just, just, it is a theme with the audience.
	Like, the entire audience will absolutely turn against you if you refuse the age question.
	No, I'm not refusing it.
	It's just weird to me to say my age.
	Why?
	Because I'll explain.
	Because everybody around me in my age are so old mentally and physically.
	And I'm like, you know, I don't know.
	Well, how old are you mentally?
	I don't know.
	I'm everything.
	I'm old.
	I'm young.
	It's really dependent.
	No, but you said everybody around you is old.
	They're like old with everything, you know?
	Sorry, they're old with everything, with how they think and how they eat and how they speak.
	And I think you can age really, really nice.
	And you don't have to be on a pattern of your age.
	That's what I'm saying.
	So just a bunch of funny duddies, right?
	And what?
	They're just kind of a bunch of fuddy duddies, you know?
	What is that?
	Old people.
	It's like change.
	It's just a bunch of lame people, right?
	No, no, I don't think...
	No, no.
	I'm not degrading people my age.
	It's just because I work in the lane of beauty, I'm a little bit more sensitive about it.
	And since I wrote a book regarding what I was just talking about, I had an issue with my look for many years because I was injured very, very bad on my left hand.
	On your left hand?
	On my left hand.
	I injured my face from a terror attack in Israel.
	So I had a lot of scars in my face.
	Yeah, I had a lot of scars in my face.
	So I had to fix it for years in order to look, you know?
	Not with.
	So you're an Israeli citizen?
	Yeah, I'm Israeli and American, yes.
	Almost.
	Okay, so I'm sorry, the ethnicity, is it Palestinian or actually Israeli or?
	I'm Jewish.
	My grandfather from my dad's side was actually Muslim and black.
	And my grandmother is Russian, my mother is Jewish.
	So I'm basically everything.
	Yeah.
	But that is paternal, right?
	A what?
	Sorry?
	Or I'm sorry, maternal.
	Isn't that maternal?
	So usually isn't.
	Jewish, yeah.
	Yeah, Jewish.
	Yeah, I thought I thought you were.
	If your mother is Jewish, so you have to be Jewish, yeah.
	But I speak Arabic and I speak Hebrew, and I understand both sides.
	Gotcha.
	Okay.
	So, a lot of info there.
	So, when it comes to the age, though, you said you don't like to reveal it because the other...
	I never hide it, by the way.
	Huh?
	I never hide it.
	It's just, I'm embarrassed.
	It takes me like a few minutes, like, you know, swallow that frog.
	You don't look it, though.
	You don't look your age.
	So it's been a few minutes.
	Do you want to just tell us?
	Yes.
	You said that.
	50.
	Oh, 50.
	What?
	Yeah, that's crazy.
	You go, girl.
	You go, girl.
	Okay, cool.
	Cool.
	It is like, it is better just so the audience doesn't turn against you just to, because like they hate it when people like refuse to.
	Okay.
	Just letting you know.
	But thank you for.
	I want to tell you something.
	People reveal against me anyway because I'm from Israel, so I'm used to it.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm Imogen.
	I'm 18 from Australia and at the Arnie Finns.
	All right.
	What part of Australia?
	Gold Coast.
	Gold Coast.
	All right.
	Welcome back.
	What about you?
	My name is Michaela.
	I'm 28.
	I'm from the Greater Seattle area.
	I own a cafe and I'm a YouTuber.
	I saw something in the news recently.
	In like northern Seattle, it's just an absolute shit show.
	Yeah, no, it's disgusting.
	I don't actually go to the city.
	That's why I said greater Seattle area.
	I don't find myself in that city anymore.
	It's dangerous.
	Let's just say that.
	And it used to be fun.
	It used to be fun to go there when I was a teenager, but I don't know.
	You grew up there like you're from.
	Yeah, I lived there my whole life.
	Would you say that Seattle has fallen?
	Indeed.
	Indeed it has.
	It was always going to, just because Seattle is an extremely casual city and they celebrate grunge.
	It's grungy.
	That's the whole thing.
	So it kind of didn't have any hope, to be honest.
	Rip Seattle.
	And it's super leftist, so, you know, it invites a lot of opportunities for people to just behave badly and get away with crime.
	So it's just going to get worse.
	I would not recommend visiting.
	All right.
	What about you?
	My name is Aksana Bojenko.
	I originally from Kazakhstan, former Soviet Union.
	Former?
	Yeah.
	And now live in Sacramento.
	I'm proud, 47 years old.
	There you go.
	Proud.
	Proud.
	And I am a matchmaker.
	Okay, matchmaker.
	And how many people have you matched?
	Total?
	Thousands.
	You know, when I pass first thousand, I stopped counting.
	So it's thousands.
	I've been doing it for almost 30 years.
	So, I mean, actually over 30 years.
	All right.
	Very cool.
	Very cool.
	Okay.
	So without further ado, Andrew Wilson, my Caucasian, take it away.
	Yeah, my name is Andrew Wilson.
	I'm the host of The Crucible.
	It's the fastest growing debate channel on the internet, at least to my knowledge.
	I'm a political satirist, political analyst, and I also like to do a little bit of debating from time to time.
	So fortunate enough that Brian invited me on the podcast.
	I appreciate all of you fine gals coming out tonight.
	I hope we have a great show.
	All right.
	Thank you, Andrew.
	So we're going to go around the table once more.
	What is everybody's current relationship status?
	So single talking stage, situation ship, friends with benefits, relationship married, polycule, sex cult, whatever it may be.
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Go ahead.
	I am currently single.
	I have now been single for about two months.
	And as well, my longest relationship is roughly three and a half years.
	Wait, were you, uh, when was.
	You were on the show a couple months ago?
	I'm in February.
	Were you in a relationship then?
	Not in February now.
	But you were single as of two months ago?
	As of two months ago.
	I got into something.
	You got into something.
	I got into something.
	It didn't last very long, though.
	It did not.
	Yeah, why is that?
	They were my neighbor.
	Okay.
	Yeah, so it just didn't work, unfortunately, but it's all right.
	And so who ended it?
	It was a mutual decision.
	Just simply, like, pads were not kind of aligning.
	And as well, I just plan to kind of move elsewhere as well.
	You plan to move where?
	Florida.
	Oh, you're currently in LA?
	I'm currently in L.A. Why Florida?
	Florida, just to kind of venture out.
	Growing up in California, spending all 22 years here, I think it's best that I try something else.
	So what's the timeline on that?
	Are you moving soon?
	Roughly in the next three months.
	Okay.
	Well, let's definitely try to get you back on at least once more before you leave.
	Miami, I'm assuming?
	A little outside of Miami, I think.
	What's outside of Miami?
	Fort Lauderdale.
	Fort Lauderdale.
	That's like Sunny Isles area as opposed to Miami Central.
	All right.
	I have family.
	Which city is more degenerate?
	Los Angeles or Miami?
	Miami.
	That's not even a debate.
	Miami, Miami, for sure.
	For sure.
	Miami.
	For sure.
	I would never let my man go to Miami.
	I would say that.
	You wouldn't let your man go to Miami.
	I don't have a man.
	If you did have one.
	Yeah.
	Would you object to your man disallowing you going to Miami?
	I think that there's some reason as to why he maybe wouldn't let me go to Miami, but I have a reason.
	I have family in Florida, so.
	He's not allowed there.
	No, I'd invite him with me.
	Have you ever been in a relationship and been like, I'm going to Miami?
	And he's.
	No, I've never been that toxic.
	Okay.
	Never been that toxic.
	Okay.
	I've done it, and it's not toxic, but done what?
	I've gone to Miami in a relationship.
	But it's mainly for work, and it's also.
	Sure.
	I don't do degenerate things out there.
	Okay.
	Your relationship status.
	I'm single, not seeing anybody.
	And I was in the longest relationship, I think it was like a year and a half.
	Was that your first one?
	That was my most serious relationship.
	I think, was I in it the last time that I was on the show?
	I'm not even sure.
	I'm pretty sure you were single.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I know.
	But I've been single for over like two years now.
	I love it.
	Wait, so because the last time you were on was two years.
	So had you just been out of a have you been in a relationship in between your last appearance?
	No.
	Okay.
	And was this the one that you told us about?
	Like this was your first boyfriend?
	Or is that a different guy?
	No, different guy.
	Different guy.
	Different guy.
	I actually don't count that relationship anymore just because I was so young.
	You don't count it?
	No, when people ask me about it, I really don't talk about it anymore.
	Okay.
	And actually, wait, so going back to you really quick, you've been single for two months.
	Roughly.
	Any rebounds?
	No rebounds?
	I'm trying to roster.
	No roster.
	I'm trying to commit to 90 days, nothing.
	90 days, nothing?
	Yeah.
	How's that going?
	It's going good, honestly.
	Practicing meditation, practicing a lot of just like me time, dallas and beautiful.
	And so you've been single for two years, but living in, you know, Santa Barbara.
	Like downtown Eastside.
	You know, you were previously in this IV area, right?
	Yeah.
	Have you go out and party frequently?
	Yeah.
	Any like shorter term, no, maybe no boyfriend, girlfriend, but anything shorter term?
	Definitely.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So in the past two years, what's the longest period of time that you've dated somebody?
	Probably like no longer than two weeks.
	Two weeks?
	A fortnight?
	Yeah.
	That's your thing.
	You're like.
	It's two and done.
	Two weeks and done.
	It lasts a fortnight and then.
	Or just as long as it takes me to see them again.
	And then after that, I'm sort of over it.
	You're over it or they're over it?
	Or both?
	I'm over it.
	Are you always the one who's like, I don't want to pursue this further than a fortnight?
	Normally.
	Why is that?
	I just don't see any real substance.
	And I guess like I feel like I'm looking for something different than a lot of people right now.
	What is that?
	What are you looking for?
	I guess I'm looking for someone that I could genuinely see myself with.
	And just it makes it easy to feel at one, to feel at peace, to feel, you know, to like what I see.
	And I don't think anyone's really making it easy enough.
	I feel like it's either too easy, like love bombing all the time, or it's just there's nothing there and they give you like zero energy and it's hard to find an in-between.
	And I'm a big believer on like loyalty over love at this point.
	And if I feel like you have other options and stuff, which it seems like a lot of people do when you're meeting people in the areas that I seem to be meeting people at, like that just seems like more of the culture of people going out.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Got it.
	We'll come back to some of that stuff a little bit later.
	What about you?
	I'm in a relationship.
	We've almost made it to a year.
	Yay.
	Yeah.
	Our anniversary is on 7-Eleven, so we're going to get free slushies.
	Nice.
	And is this your longest relationship?
	No, it's not.
	My longest one is three years.
	All right.
	How did you meet your most recent guy?
	We met at school.
	Well, we met at a party, actually.
	Met at the party?
	Okay.
	What was his opening line?
	Actually, I said something first, so I saw him like from across the room.
	It's like an indie movie.
	And I walk up and I'm like, I like your septum.
	He had a septum piercing.
	He has a septum.
	Well, he used to.
	He took it out.
	Did you have a septum piercing at the time?
	I did, yeah.
	You're like, we got something in common.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So you said it was an indie film?
	No, it's like a meet cute, you know?
	Oh, okay.
	Like a movie scene.
	Like it was kind of perfect.
	So your line was nice septum, bro.
	Yeah, pretty much.
	Yeah.
	And then we went outside and we started talking and.
	Boom.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I saw that movie.
	So what's his like, is he kind of like a punk type guy or what's his look?
	Yeah, does he have gauges?
	He does not have gauges, but his ears are pierced.
	He just got a nose piercing.
	He has some tattoos.
	Yeah.
	White guy?
	Well, he's half white, half Indonesian and Japanese.
	Oh, okay.
	Cool.
	What about you?
	I have been single since like 2021.
	So like three years?
	Maybe or four.
	Not maybe.
	Had like a little situationship with like a coworker a little over a year ago, but it had to be brief because they were like transferring somewhere else.
	So just dating there, but that was again a few months.
	After transferring over, I was very much in the mindset of just channel all your energy and focus into school and being successful.
	And it worked out quite well for me.
	So yeah, I feel like I went like 10 months, so I'm like 90 days ago, you got this.
	Because I went a while without, and then yeah, maybe had like a little fling in Hawaii two weeks ago, but besides that.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, I was in Hawaii for three weeks, which on the in Honolulu.
	You had a fling?
	What?
	So it was like, when you say fling, like you guys just met up once or you guys while you were in Hawaii?
	Yeah, I met up a couple times.
	A couple times.
	All right.
	Orientation?
	Straight, bye.
	Oh, bye.
	Bye.
	Was it a man or a woman?
	It was a man.
	Okay.
	And going back this way, orientation?
	Straight.
	Okay.
	Your and longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Around two years, honestly, I feel like would have gone way longer, but we actually met white.
	He was an exchange student here.
	And then he had to go back home.
	We probably dated for a little over a year.
	Long distance.
	I would fly out, stay during winters and summers.
	And then the distance just, yeah, got a little too hard.
	So this two-year one, is that the one that ended three years ago?
	About 2021?
	No, that was my first.
	There's another one after that that lasted a couple months.
	Honestly, I hated that he gamed.
	I hate gamers.
	I just can't.
	And he was a big gamer, so it was kind of a deal breaker for me.
	You don't like gamers?
	Okay.
	I mean, no, okay, I'm fine with you doing it like a year or two.
	No, it's like, as long as they're not doing it like while they're in my company, but if I'm going to go over and you're just going to be like, oh my gosh, look at the upgrade I just got.
	I'm going to be like, bro.
	Yeah, if it's an addiction.
	It's such an ick.
	Yeah.
	It's an addiction.
	He got a lot better, but like after, yeah, we broke up.
	So.
	I know they should just always talk about you.
	Yeah, because there's nothing else.
	They're interested in.
	There's nothing else.
	Video games.
	I mean.
	In my presence?
	Maybe.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	That seems fair.
	Again, it was excessive.
	This ain't normal gaming.
	Yeah.
	What is normal gaming?
	There's no such thing.
	I feel like, or I have a friend who's like, oh yeah, he games, but like as soon as I get home, you know, he turns it off.
	He knows it's like us time, you know?
	He'll, yeah.
	So there's that, which is like, yeah, being respectful of having someone else in your presence and me coming over, wanting to hang out, do something, and you just want to pew pew pew.
	Actually, this, I think this was like the like, he had never, I remember we were on the phone one time and he had never gone paddleboarding.
	And I was like, what?
	You've never been paddleboarding?
	Like, we should go.
	Like, you know, I have access to the Hope Ranch Beach.
	My friend's got boards over there.
	Can't believe it.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Let's do it.
	And he's like, why do you always want to do something outside?
	He's like, I was like, what?
	And he's like, it's like me asking you to come over and watch me play video games for hours.
	I was like, not the same homie.
	Not the same.
	Well, I don't know.
	It seems reasonable to me.
	It sounds like you wanted him to be interested in things that you were interested in, but you weren't particularly interested in things he was interested in.
	Yeah, and that's another thing that I feel like I have to watch out for too.
	Was when we first met, I definitely expressed that I was an outdoorsy type person, and he definitely was like, oh, yeah, so am I.
	I like to hike.
	Me and my friends go on hikes all the time.
	We went on like one with his buddies and that was like it.
	So yeah, I feel like sometimes they're like, oh yeah, I like that dude just to kind of please you.
	And then once I got to know him and was, yeah, then dating him, I was like, no, you don't, bro.
	No, you don't.
	Well, what game did he play?
	I don't even know.
	I think it was Call of Duty.
	Of course it was.
	You're not sure though?
	I didn't pay attention like that.
	I mean, like, how many hours did this guy try to explain Call of Duty stuff to you?
	I feel like he would try to, and I'd just be like, mmm, mm, oh, wow, nice.
	Just like tuning it out completely.
	Oh, that's so cool.
	Bucky Larsom donated $70.
	Brian, I went on a bumble first date this past Sunday.
	I paid for the lunch date, but the girl unmatched me two hours after the date was done.
	Definitely not cool.
	She seemed like a strumpet anyway.
	Did she block you too?
	Yeah, you know.
	Oh, my God.
	That's why, you know, you should, they should pay for the date.
	The girls should pay for dates, I think.
	If you agreed to the terms and conditions, that's on you.
	Yeah.
	Or you could just do some free shit.
	I mean, look, you know, that it happens.
	Some people just don't know how to turn, let you down, actually communicate, so they'll just block you or whatever.
	So I would just, yeah, low commitment shit, I guess, you know?
	Right, Mia?
	I think so.
	I mean, I think it's like bumble, so that's what he said.
	So I guess the girl hits first, and then the guy, I guess, picks up the bill.
	I don't know.
	Maybe that's what she thought.
	Who knows?
	Can I edit something?
	Yeah.
	Is that what she did?
	I think today a lot of the women go to date to have free dinner and a lot of the guys out there are serial daters.
	So if you have a really intention to be with a girl seriously, you wouldn't go to multiple dates.
	And the girls, if they wouldn't want dinner, they wouldn't go to multiple dates.
	So that's my input on that.
	I have a solution to this problem.
	You understand?
	That seems like the opposite.
	It seems like the opposite would be true.
	So if you were serious about finding Mrs. Wright, right?
	Yeah.
	Wouldn't you want to meet with a bunch of different women?
	And then it doesn't mean you have to sleep with them, right?
	But wouldn't you go and get to know them and things like that?
	Yes, but I'll phrase it differently because I work with a lot of women and I hear a lot of stories every day.
	So, yes, you should go on a lot of dates.
	But now it's become the fashion to go on dates.
	Either a lot of girls said, Oh, just go with him to dinner.
	You buy me dinner, I'll take the bag home.
	Like, it's completely to use the guy.
	They don't have any feelings to the guy.
	They just want to go to dinner, have the dinner taken home.
	And a lot of the guys, because it's instant gratification, all these apps, they just go to multiple dating not to actually find their soulmates.
	They go to find hookups and quick instant gratification.
	It's not a lot of guys and girls that actually go to find the one and only.
	I think the serious one not even go on apps.
	Well, where do they go?
	They try to make it organically, like through friends or something.
	Because I talk to a lot of people, and you have to understand I see it differently because when I travel to the Middle East or to Europe, it's a lot of that is completely different perspective.
	In America, either you are too much of a gold digger or you're a guy that's just looking for I'm not saying it is what it is, just people.
	This is the perception, you understand, for the people.
	But don't most people meet their long-term relationship interests online?
	I think that that's most people now.
	And that's even in Europe, that's true.
	No, no, yes, it's true, but a lot of people taking advantage of the apps.
	They don't go there sincerely.
	Well, I don't disagree, I think, with the spirit of what you're saying.
	You're saying that women can be very predatory and they just want a free lunch, but I mean, that's always been the case.
	It's not just for dinner.
	Yeah, like I talk up to women who grew up in the 70s.
	They did the same shit, right?
	They would go on dates with guys just to get a free meal.
	So that, I mean, that's still pretty common.
	It was still pretty common even pre-internet.
	Yes.
	But I mean, I think it's made hookup culture worse.
	I don't disagree with you there.
	But kind of this idea, this first idea that you had of, well, wait a second, I think that maybe it's not a good thing for people to be meeting online.
	It's like, well, I don't know.
	I think that dating multiple women is fine.
	You don't have to have a physical relationship with them, but I would think you'd want to get to know various people, right?
	You're right, but my point is exactly to what you said: that a lot of people don't have the patient.
	I'll give you an example.
	I don't go on dates almost at all, okay?
	If I want to meet a guy, it would have to happen organically.
	I would not go on a date.
	I would not have sex with a guy unless it's a serious relationship.
	I'm sorry.
	Hang on, just real quick.
	I just want to clarify one quick thing.
	Did you say you were married?
	No, I'm not married.
	I'm not married.
	I'm divorced.
	Okay.
	Unfortunately.
	And do you have a long-term relationship?
	I had, yeah.
	I had for almost five years.
	But you don't have it now.
	No, no.
	No.
	I mean, are we swinging for the stars here on the dating thing?
	What do you mean?
	I don't know.
	Well, I'm just, well, I'm just curious.
	Like, if you're kind of giving advice, the dating advice, you know what I mean?
	And you're divorced and not in a long-term relationship.
	Because I had a lot of people.
	I mean, is your advice working?
	I was married for 10 years, a little bit more, actually.
	But I tell you what, because I'm not originally American and how I see it from an outer side perspective, it's to me what's going on here with the dating, it's like weird, like how they put people here put the approach to it.
	It's like transactional mentality.
	It's either what you give me, what I take from you.
	And for me.
	Yeah, but I mean, if you're going to Europe, there's a lot of that's transactional too.
	I mean, that's what the Passport Bro thing is all about.
	Like, this is not something which is isolated to the United States, right?
	From what I would call it a bit of female narcissism.
	And I think that, or at least that's what I refer to it as.
	Not to say that they're actual narcissists, right?
	That's not what I mean by the term.
	But I do think that there is quite a bit of transaction involved.
	Yes, I have.
	Yeah, but like in the Middle East, it's completely different.
	You know, here, if a woman, I see.
	Yeah, that's because women don't have rights in the Middle East.
	No, that's not true.
	Israel, it's more.
	Okay, I'll be.
	Yeah, but Israel is a very important thing.
	Sorry, yeah, I'd like to.
	That's not true what you say about Israel.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Israel is a westernized nation, though.
	Yeah, but when you say the Middle East, I mean, that's not almost nobody's ever referring to the one westernized nation in the Middle East.
	No, but can I just say something regarding what you're saying?
	Because it's important because Americans, a lot of them don't understand it.
	Israel, it's super feminist, but it's also super chauvist.
	And I'll explain.
	If I'm a woman going to the army, right, and I'm Mario dating my boyfriend, I can go to the army, shoot people, whatever job I have in the army, but I come home, I cook, I clean, I'll take care of my kids, and in the night, I'll take a shower, put my makeup, and be sexy for my men.
	This is my mentality.
	This is how we grow up.
	Here, it's like it's either you are you are, you know, like not taking care of yourself.
	I don't know what's the right word to say, but either you not wearing makeup, you're really super feminist, you kind of hate women, or you're super feminine looking and super and completely different to both sides.
	For me, it's like exactly the middle ground.
	You have to be a woman, feminine woman that love men and respects men, right?
	But in the other hand, you could be feminist, but in a different way, what you guys call feminist, we look at it as ridiculous because feminism here is to literally hate men.
	Yeah, but I kind of think that this is experience-based and anecdotal.
	So when I talk to people from Israel, especially men, this is not the take that I'm getting that their women are Sheras out in the battlefield, but nice, submissive house cats when they get home.
	That definitely does not seem to be most of their experiences.
	I don't know who you're talking, but all the Israeli women.
	Well, how about this?
	Why don't we table this?
	And if you guys want, you can come back to it later.
	Okay.
	Just so I can get through all the relationship status things.
	So, Bucky Larson, thank you for the TTS.
	I actually, I've done some further thinking on this, and I actually think she probably liked you so much.
	She deleted her bumble.
	She didn't unmatch you.
	She just deleted her bumble.
	And she's already committed to you.
	That's my take.
	She liked you so much, she's like, I don't want to do the dating apps anymore.
	I just want Bucky Larson.
	That's my, that's what I think happened.
	Right, ladies?
	I think she's waiting on the table.
	They all agree.
	Okay.
	So thank you, Bucky, for that.
	And wait, actually, you had something you wanted to jump in on, so I'll let you go.
	Just to add, because I definitely think that it's also dependent on what dating app you choose to hop on.
	I feel like if you hop on Tinder, most people on Tinder, I feel like, I mean, from what I've gathered, are just looking for a quickie-type relationship.
	Whereas people who are on like Hinge are very much more putting energy into their profiles, and it seems like more relationships come out of that.
	But that one specifically, people are, yeah, hoping to find a relationship on there.
	So I definitely think that it's dependent on what app you're on.
	If you're on Tinder, you can't be super shocked if you don't find a great guy that treats you well.
	Okay.
	So just going back to you really quickly, you've been single for three years, longest relationship two years.
	Your most recent thing, you had a little fling in Hawaii.
	Have you kept in touch with this person or is it you're leaving it strictly a fling?
	I'm in touch with the person.
	I have respect for the person, but I can't do the long distance.
	My first relationship, too, and I think I mentioned we would have, I think, definitely continued if it wasn't for the distance.
	And I kind of say that he ruined me in the best ways, and he was so great to me that finding someone that kind of meets the bar that he sets has been really hard.
	Wait, he ruined you in the best ways?
	What does that mean?
	No, as in, like, I feel like, so it was my first relationship, and I feel like a lot of girls, their first relationship, unfortunately, they could be in a toxic relationship, and then after that, you kind of just see toxic patterns.
	And he was great to me.
	We communicated in the most amazing way.
	Never really argued, never had anything that I felt the need to bring up to him that was bothering me.
	So yeah, it was just a very great, loving relationship, and finding an emotional connection, emotional and physical connection like that with someone else has definitely been really hard.
	That was your longest relationship, the two-year one?
	Yep.
	Why did it end?
	It was just the distance.
	It was a long distance.
	Who ended it?
	Mutual.
	Is it ever mutual?
	It is.
	Okay.
	It was just, it was, yeah.
	Distance usually never initially.
	But this is like distance, distances in like Europe.
	We're not talking about like LA.
	We're talking about, you know, having to hop on a plane, which I was more than willing to like do for some time.
	But we were just, I was also starting like college.
	So.
	Okay, so you've been single for three years in that three-year period.
	Have you had anything longer term?
	A couple months?
	I'm sorry, you just said yes.
	Yes.
	Ripped Rich and Rare donated $69.
	Brian, can you not do a podcast without single mom simp?
	Fat boy Andrew needs to clean up his damn room.
	Looks like it smells like sweaty balls and jiggle them big old cities.
	Jiddy Lam.
	Okay, thank you for that.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay.
	So like three-month thing, any situationships?
	I also, again, was very much in the, well, I had transferred after transferring, very much focused on my academics.
	And then, unfortunately, after...
	Nick, that's the wrong one.
	Unfortunately, after I did lose someone, I then was in the mentality of I don't think it's healthy for me to start something with someone unless my mind is okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I've been single for like a year and a half to two years.
	And what was the other question?
	Sorry?
	Longest relationship?
	About a year.
	One year.
	Okay.
	And you previously said you, how big is your roster currently?
	My roster is about 30 men.
	30 guys.
	How many of them are you hooking up with?
	I rotate between four to five a week.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	As one does.
	Okay.
	I love it.
	Steve X donated $69.
	What do you think about the rise of AI Perfect girlfriends entering the market?
	As a woman, do you feel any competition or threat from this trend?
	Ladies, starting with you.
	Wait, hold on.
	Another one's coming in.
	I'm going to pause it.
	Okay.
	Your, you know, your thoughts?
	I don't really feel a threat necessarily.
	I think at the end of the day with the AI Perfect Girlfriends, they don't offer nearly as much of a compatibility relationship to anybody.
	So I think that's something that unfortunately doesn't align to the equal expectations.
	Do you feel the threat being in terms of your occupation?
	Not really.
	Okay.
	Feel threat from the AI girlfriends.
	What about the AI, the future like AI sex robots?
	Do you feel threat from that?
	If a guy wants to have sex with metal, I will let him, and I will never talk to him again.
	Have you seen Westworld?
	No.
	I'm not a huge movie watcher.
	So Westworld, like basically, they look like just like real people.
	That's scary.
	That is scary.
	But I feel like Instagram's more of a threat than that.
	Guys already have virtual girlfriends made up in their head on that damn app.
	So what do you think?
	Yeah, I think to be threatened by something that isn't even real is kind of irrational.
	I don't know.
	Have you heard of Grey Goo?
	No.
	Well, that would be real.
	So Grey Goo, it's this hypothetical, how do I explain it?
	It would be a self-replicating thing that ate consumed biological material.
	So essentially, it would self-replicate, and it would consume all biological material, and it would just essentially eat everything, including the earth.
	It's called Grey Goo, Wikipedia, and that shit.
	I've never heard of that.
	It's like an existential potential risk of some sort of AI development.
	Oh, because of AI, that is a potential thing.
	You could create some sort of nano thing that could feed on biological matter and it self-replicates and it just keeps eating.
	So basically, it just spreads and spreads and like if it's already thought of it exists in my mind, like that's scary.
	There you go, some nightmare if you'll enjoy it.
	All right.
	So not competition.
	What about you feel threatened?
	Oh no, not at all.
	Not by the AI girlfriend sex robots.
	Okay.
	What if they're stacked though?
	What do you mean stacked?
	Like they're stacked.
	The AI sex robots.
	They had all tits.
	Fucking stacked, you know?
	I like how I was like, wait, what do you mean stacked?
	And you're like, they're all stacked.
	They have big tits.
	Like, I'm going to take my stuff with me.
	I mean, what would be the point if they weren't stacked, though?
	There you go.
	Like, what would be the point if they weren't stacked?
	Like, you're making like a fake person when you're in the middle of the morning.
	Some people don't like the perfect.
	So not all of them are getting stacked.
	Part of the small titty committee.
	I feel like the guys who would go for an AI girlfriend though would want someone who just looks like nothing.
	You know what I mean?
	Well, so I think kind of the point of the question is to envision it maybe this way.
	Assume for a second that you could take a perfect celebrity body and face that, I don't know, most men would be attracted to and give them thousands of different options of whatever variation this was.
	And they basically could interact in essentially more or less the same way that a human being would.
	Except essentially they didn't have to deal with any of the emotional problems.
	Basically they wouldn't have to deal with a human being on the other end.
	They could just basically objectify their sex robot.
	If that was the technological leap that we made, do you think that the sex dynamics between men and women would be really screwed up and that you would be in the kind of the worst end of that, I think is what he's getting at.
	That's disgusting.
	Here, let's get all the answers.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, that was about three seconds to the microphone, but go ahead.
	Sorry, what did you say?
	what am i talking about is the tick tock brain do you need a little energy drink or what's can we save the low tier trolling for halfway through the show Can we save it to where we get like halfway through?
	Because we just got started.
	You're already trolling.
	Yeah.
	What do you think we're talking about?
	I don't know.
	I wasn't listening.
	I don't listen when it's not my turn.
	Do you know what I mean?
	But it was about to be your turn.
	The TTS came in asking about what?
	I don't know.
	It's like the teacher putting on the fucking student on.
	Okay, is it coming to you?
	No.
	You just weren't.
	You didn't even listen to what any of the other girls were talking about?
	You didn't see that.
	Andrew even restated the question in a better, like an easier way for you to answer it.
	What were you thinking about?
	What were you thinking about when you were not listening to what all these girls said?
	I'm normally going to be here for.
	That's really what you were thinking about?
	Yeah.
	We're only an hour into the show.
	I was thinking about how hungry I am.
	Why would you have not eaten before?
	I did.
	I ate a lot.
	You were thinking about how hungry.
	Here, like, can you just verbalize your thoughts?
	I'm just curious.
	I'm hungry.
	Yeah.
	Ah, TikTok.
	Yeah.
	I'm hungry.
	I was TikTok.
	You literally spot on.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And I don't listen to Andrew.
	He's irrelevant.
	I don't even know who he is.
	You're coming in bad faith already?
	That's okay.
	Why?
	I don't know why.
	Because of yesterday.
	What happened?
	He's just rude.
	Anyways.
	Next question.
	All right.
	Your answer today, I think.
	Me?
	I'm just letting you know: if we have to repeat one more question to you and you're not listening, I'm just going to kick you off the show, okay?
	Deal?
	I wouldn't care.
	You wouldn't care?
	Don't care?
	No, not really.
	You requested to be on the show.
	Yeah, and then we weren't going to come today.
	And then you said you got no one to replace us with, so then we came.
	No, that was her who wasn't going to come today.
	You were.
	Yeah, but let's be real.
	She wasn't going to come today.
	Did you think I was?
	That's not what she said.
	Yeah, why would he assume differently?
	Okay, I didn't listen to one question.
	Why is it such a big deal?
	Well, because what it does, it derails the show.
	And so, unfortunately, if you derail the show and we have to get into repeating everything, it kind of breaks up the speed of the conversation.
	So the point of the show is that you're here to have a conversation on dating and interpersonal dynamics between people.
	And so we do expect that people come on the show participate in the show.
	That seems reasonable.
	Okay.
	I don't think okay is a sufficient okay.
	Well, if you would like, you can repeat and I will answer.
	What?
	Like, whatever the question was that he was asking me.
	Okay.
	Can I repeat for her?
	Go ahead.
	Are you threatened by AI replacing women, AI artificial girlfriends?
	Are you threatened that you will not have a possibility of the true connection and relationship?
	No.
	And there is not much of a connection already going on, so.
	No.
	What about OnlyFans?
	What about AI OnlyFans accounts?
	Do you feel threatened by that?
	Because they could do anything.
	They could be anyone.
	No matter that.
	That is true.
	That is true.
	But I haven't experienced that.
	So I'm not really too sure.
	But I am threatened by it.
	But once it comes about, then we'll see how I feel kind of thing.
	You know what I mean?
	Oh my god, I feel bad.
	Your answer to the question?
	To the last question?
	No, I'm not threatened by that.
	No.
	No.
	If a man was interested in that, I would not be interested in him.
	I'd rather be alone, honestly.
	So I'm not threatened because I am married, but single women who in this world should be threatened because men already disconnecting completely.
	I mean, we're losing guys to the pornography where it is very minimal investment and huge reward.
	And when AI comes in, and when it will, I don't remember the full stats, but it's like a crazy number.
	In just a matter of like a few days or weeks, it's like millions and millions of downloads.
	I was thinking about this the other night.
	Maybe, let me try to follow up on this just briefly because I don't think that women understand the totality of what's being asked here.
	So let me ask it this way.
	Let's pretend aliens came down from a different planet, okay?
	And all of them appeared to be extremely good-looking females, okay?
	And they were genetically close enough that men, if they had sex with them, could impregnate them.
	And they came down and they said, listen, we're here for the male DNA, and there's just billions of us, and we need to be impregnated by.
	And she doesn't argue as she's.
	Hang on, let me finish, please.
	Let me finish.
	Okay.
	There's billions of us.
	We need to be impregnated by the men.
	And they're all beautiful in comparison to the average female.
	Would you guys feel threatened then?
	Would you feel like, oh shit, we have...
	Because there's no actual competition to this at all, right?
	So I think it's a matter of perspective.
	And no woman's ever seen any competition other than other women.
	So I'm just wondering, if that dynamic existed, would you feel threatened then?
	No, because it's nothing we can do about it anyway.
	It's just radical expenses.
	They're better than us today at all.
	There is something women can do.
	Can I say something?
	I don't think that women just, the only competition in life is like other women.
	Like, let's not say that.
	Like there's many things like a lot of women don't even, my competition is not driven by other women yet.
	Yes, like, I obviously know that other guys find women attractive and that's a thing, but I don't see it as like competition.
	Well, but I mean, then who are you competing with?
	Men have to compete inside of a hierarchy with my structure.
	Yeah, I know, okay, but that's kind of a cop-out because you're a woman.
	At least I have to be.
	Yeah, so you're saying, I don't have to compete with other women.
	I don't have to compete with women, but if you're competing with yourself, you're still competing with a woman.
	So I don't really even understand that, that cop-out, right?
	Men have to compete within a hierarchy, and women seem like they have to compete with other women for the right kind of men.
	But I don't see where women have to compete with men.
	Can I say something about this?
	I think, actually, in Netflix, it's a Russian TV show.
	All the AI women are gorgeous and perfect, and I see it, and I'm fascinated.
	But I think if it actually happened, me personally, I won't feel threatened, not because I'm not threatened, because I'm too threatened, so I have nothing to compete.
	I'll just give in, you know?
	Take them, and that's it.
	I cannot compete something that it's superior, you know?
	I feel like if they came out with like an AI woman, they'd also come out with an AI man.
	So now, hang on.
	While I totally agree with that, that they would, in fact, try to satiate that market very, very quickly.
	AI men aren't going to provide resources.
	And it seems that the distinction here between men and women is that often women are going for men who provide resources.
	Men are not going for women to provide them with resources.
	They don't give a shit if women have resources or not.
	They don't care if you're the hot chick at the Taco Bell or the hot chick who's the CEO of the company.
	They like both equally, right?
	They think both of them are equally worthy of carrying their baby.
	Wait, Andrew, one thing on this, though, that it does occur to me, if we're to the point where we have like AI.
	You're talking about like AI sex robots, basically, right?
	Yeah.
	Honestly, I think that if we're technologically that advanced, we might be in like a post-scarcity world in terms of resources.
	Yeah, I'm not sure.
	I'm not sure about that.
	So it depends.
	So if you go back and you look, for instance, if you were to go back to the porn industry and you realize that the reason we moved from VHS, not to Laserdisc, which was better than DVD, was because that was the standard the porn industry wanted to use.
	Industries can be hyper-focused on a type of technology, whereas other industries stay totally stagnant.
	The industry right now seems to be really focusing on this technology.
	So it could be in the next 20 years far more advanced than you think, while other things stay pretty stagnant.
	Maybe farming equipment and stuff like that really doesn't keep pace with whatever the sex robots are.
	So I think it's possible that you could see a world in which there are beautiful AI-driven sex robots.
	And if that's the case, and then we draw kind of that alien parallel, right?
	It seems that women would kind of be the ones in the negative there because they're not going to get resources from this robot.
	You don't think there'd be any type of government regulation to that per se?
	Certainly.
	I mean, I certainly think that there would be, but what are they going to regulate?
	Oh, I want to stay home and hunt my robot.
	Like, what are they going to regulate?
	Honestly, you know what I mean?
	Like, what are they going to regulate?
	I have to be honest, without sounding rude, but with the majority of the women I see in this country, probably the AI is going to be much better.
	Sorry.
	Absolutely.
	completely agree it's uh i mean there is girls i'm what we need to provide to men is the support connection And men already don't have that understanding.
	I mean, they've been judged.
	They are not being worshipped.
	This country hates men.
	They're not getting gratitude.
	I mean, just listening, just a few words from.
	I mean, he was gaming, right?
	He was doing games.
	Why didn't you guys talk about how you will like his hobbies, how he will like your hobbies?
	You got a love about men that you understand.
	That in particular was just a hobby that I will never get into.
	we'll get into that i do i do want to try to we can come back to the ai stuff let's get let's get everybody's intro out of the way and then we need to also there's a bunch of tts's that are still on the intro Here, I'm going to get relationship status.
	We'll do the TTSs.
	We'll come back to some condos.
	Relationship status, I think.
	We just broke up a relationship after four years, unfortunately.
	How long have you been single?
	Now, six months.
	Six months.
	Okay.
	And longest relationship?
	12 years.
	Was that your marriage?
	Yes.
	Married just once?
	Married once.
	Actually, married twice, but the second time it's to get out of the army.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm single and I have pain for like a year and a bit.
	And my local relationship was like nearly six months.
	I'm married for four years.
	And my longest relationship is about six years, which is my current husband.
	We dated for a year and a half before we got married.
	Married, 10 years together, seven years married, and this is my longest relationship.
	And happily married.
	All right.
	Great, great, great.
	Let me get some of these chats to come in.
	Sorry, guys, I had to pause it there temporarily.
	Brian, say something in French donated $69.
	My sprinkler goes like this.
	It comes back like this.
	All right, thanks.
	in French, un jour je vais retourner à France et je ferai tout mon possible pour changer l'avenir, pour changer le destin de mon peuple et vous devez tout m'aider.
	C'est très joli.
	C'est brosé.
	Maireci Bucou.
	Mais je pense la la france la France et per du.
	La France est per du.
	Et perdu.
	Sevre montrice c'est triste.
	Okay.
	Oh, not bad, not bad.
	Hold on, guys.
	They're coming in right now.
	Ron donated $69.
	Please, Brian, for the love of all, that's good.
	Let's kick the Aussie off.
	Last show was unbearable because of her.
	I don't think I can listen to her stupidity for another minute.
	We'll see how the show goes.
	It's loading, though.
	It's loading.
	Oh, my God.
	We're loading up.
	All right.
	Thank you, Rom.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Sorry, there's a game coming in now.
	Your paladins donated $100.
	For the social justice degree, I'll take my latte breve with three creme and three splendor.
	I think that's for you.
	All right.
	He's giving you his coffee order.
	Sorry, it wasn't the degree in social justice.
	It was economics.
	Yeah, you can do nothing.
	Minor.
	That was base donated $69 around the table.
	Communism or capitalism?
	Which is better?
	Go ahead.
	Hashtag free Kazakhstan.
	Communism.
	Capitalism?
	Communism?
	Depending on the situation.
	Okay, we'll come back to that.
	Over capitalism.
	Capitalism.
	Capitalism.
	Capitalism is a scam.
	Capitalism is a scam.
	Wait, what?
	I have my opinions on that, but I don't want to talk about it all.
	No, but so which is better?
	Over communism.
	Common is black and white, but no, somewhere in the middle.
	So which is better?
	That's the question.
	Capitalism, it's better because we live freely, but in a way, it's also destroying us.
	Okay.
	Capitalism?
	Caterpillarism?
	I don't know how to say it.
	Caterpillarism.
	Capitalism.
	What about you?
	Capitalism, of course.
	Capitalism.
	Okay.
	Wait, communism?
	Just in like the resources aspect of it, you know, distributing them.
	But obviously, there's things that are flawed.
	Do you have a good example?
	Like, like Native American tribes.
	They're communists.
	That's technically, you know, because they're like dividing the resources equally, right?
	Like, they're all doing the work, and it's all going towards the one cause, you know, that is the community of people.
	Do you think those communities are thriving, though?
	Well, no, definitely not.
	So it is for the amount of work that you may be doing, like, ten times more, you would be paid exactly the same as the person who doesn't do any work at all.
	I think it is equal pay.
	Whether you put more effort into that or you don't do anything at all.
	It can damage the spirit, especially if you're an entrepreneur type.
	You just want to create and you have so much ambition.
	There's no point.
	There's no incentive.
	The same as everyone else.
	So what's the incentive to work harder?
	What's the incentive to create, to innovate, to bring about uniqueness?
	If you're all going to be paid the same.
	There's obviously a ton of laws within capitalism as well.
	Not to say that, but I think the example that you brought up too was before the advancement of a lot of technology.
	I think when you take technology into consideration as well, then you don't prefer a mixed economy or something that's more socialist-based?
	Me?
	Yeah.
	Oh, for sure.
	For sure.
	Yeah.
	But it was choosing between capitalism and communism.
	And if I had to choose between those two, yeah, but definitely for a mix.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So you would prefer some type of socialism.
	I agree with you also.
	Wait, so if you could, if you could snap your fingers and we switched to communism over what we currently have, would you do it?
	I would say no.
	You're too far from it.
	I'm just saying like in an ideal world, you know, but no, I would not like just switch right now.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	Letting a couple come through.
	Wallbanger underscore BW donated 69.
	Can't wait to hear about the Bevo Fallout.
	Thank you.
	Big up, Brian.
	Big up.
	Pull up the video really quick.
	It's funny.
	It's like, we'll play the first 10 seconds of it.
	We'll get it out of the way now.
	Is Bevo real?
	Is he an AI sex robot?
	Go ahead, Nick.
	All right.
	Yeah, just wanted to come on air and just say the current situation I'm in.
	Yeah, it's not looking great.
	I've posted out that I pretty much am skin.
	I'm not going to lie.
	It's all come from the whatever podcast.
	Lying, trying to make a character, trying to be like these other influencers.
	And it's all backfired, it is all backfired.
	I've beefed the wrong people.
	My relationship is rocky now because I'm not earning money, putting pressure on her.
	Yeah, and I'm just getting a lot of hate.
	And I just don't feel I can act this anymore.
	I really don't.
	Did he say I'm going to give you a date?
	He said he's going.
	He claims.
	I don't know if he's said in the video.
	He claims he's going broke.
	Everybody's calling him out, though.
	He's obviously lying.
	He's putting on, he's doing like a little bit.
	But he blamed him himself going broke on the whatever podcast because he came on the whatever podcast.
	And look, Bevo, tell you what.
	Yo, Andrew, should we have this guy come back on the show?
	What do you think?
	Can't hear you, Andrew.
	Said, let's do a Redeemer episode with Bevo.
	Let's redeem.
	We're going to get him back on track.
	But here, Andrew, what do you think about this as a contingency?
	He has to break up with his OF porn star girlfriend if he wants to come back on the show.
	What do you think?
	No, I think we should have him on either way.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	That works.
	Yeah.
	We should have him on either way.
	You know, we get his side of the story out there.
	We can also ask him specifically why he kind of made up a bunch of these tall table.
	Like, we can ask him some of those questions.
	And maybe we can find some middle ground reconciliation with Bevo.
	Yeah.
	So, Bevo, if you're back in Los Angeles, we will have you back on the show so you can redeem yourself and what's the term?
	You're going to confess to your slander.
	How about that?
	Okay.
	All right.
	We have, hold on, let me let these other ones come through.
	Mass Fu20 donated $69.
	AI doesn't replace the human needs and desires.
	To the panel, can AI be a hypothetical to disconnect the dating scene and maybe reduce birth rates?
	Wait, disconnect the dating scene?
	Maybe reduce birth rates.
	So he's pro-AI.
	I guess.
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	Thank you, Moss Fu, appreciate it.
	Yo, Church of Thing Talt.
	Thy antology thing, man.
	Big Rick Kim donated $69.
	My wife and I are old school lesbians and don't agree with LGBTQ.
	We think that most of the US has accepted gays and lesbians, but LGBTQ keeps going out of their way not to be accepted.
	Thoughts?
	I mean...
	True.
	Okay.
	What is an old school lesbian?
	What is like monogamy?
	No, they're just like into the table.
	They're just like, I'm guessing an older couple.
	I think they mean just like they're not nearly as open about pride and kind of expressing themselves as freely as possible.
	Sorry, moving on.
	Brian Calloway donated $69.
	To the Israeli, I'm sorry you had to go through the terrorist attack in the aftermath.
	Glad you're back up on your feet now.
	Besides the Aussie Great panel tonight so far.
	All right, guys, we're going to boost the TTS up to 200.
	Nick, if you can hold on, guys.
	Let me just change a couple things.
	Read is 100.
	TTS is 200.
	All right, we're going to let that switch now.
	Okay, we got everybody's relationship status.
	I'm trying to remember exactly where we had left off.
	We were talking about AI for a little bit.
	I don't know if there's much more there, unless, Andrew, you had a few closing thoughts on that specific topic.
	Yeah, I mean, I just try to think about it from the angle of men, too, right?
	From women.
	So, like, if an alien race came down, alien species came down, and they were all really, really good-looking men with tons and tons of resources.
	I think that human men would have a big problem, right?
	They would have a big problem on their hands.
	We would basically, you know, I think we would go extinct on this thing.
	I agree.
	But when it's kind of reversed, when I asked women this question, now, to be fair, most of this panel was like, yeah, we would have a big problem.
	But if I ask women this question, they often are like, no, I still don't think that there would be.
	I think that there would, though.
	I think that there would be a big problem because of that resource exchange.
	And so I think when we're talking about AI, it's not a perfect analogy, but I think it maps on pretty well to what people are foreseeing in the tech markets.
	Yeah, I think it's just easy not to care about the collective sometimes and just be like, I wouldn't care, but I guess it would be for everyone else who's alone.
	Well, I think you would care too.
	No, right.
	I mean, I'm just saying it's easy to say it.
	And then if you're actually experiencing it, it would be absolutely terrifying.
	It would be terrifying.
	I mean, I'd be safe, personally, but it's what I have somebody.
	I mean, would you?
	Yeah, no, I would.
	I would.
	No doubt about that, but I don't know.
	Even if the aliens came down?
	Yeah, I mean, I would.
	If you're talking about in the sense of, would an alien girlfriend steal my van?
	I don't think that's going to happen.
	Actually, I'm very confident it wouldn't.
	But I do care that it would happen to others.
	So I guess I don't have to be that apathetic.
	Andrew, you remember the movie with Kim Basinger?
	Actually, exactly on the same topic.
	It was like she was playing a woman from space that was gorgeous, perfect, and then she brought in the end of the movie all the women from her planet that were all looking gorgeous.
	And the regular woman there were like looking at them in shock.
	Yeah, at the same time, she doesn't have periods of remote.
	What was that movie called?
	It was actually with Bruce Willis, and I think it was Bruce Willis and Kim Basinger exactly about what you said.
	I remember that.
	So check it out.
	It's really, it's not AI, but it's like alien that looks gorgeous and perfect.
	Gotcha.
	I mean, the last movie I saw where it was about alien who looked gorgeous was species.
	And I thought that that encapsulated female nature pretty well.
	Yeah.
	Go check it out.
	Yeah, you should definitely check out species.
	That'll tell you a lot about female nature, for sure.
	The segment can be Andrew's movie recommendations.
	All right.
	What did I miss?
	Can I add one thing about the question where the guy was talking about that he went on a date?
	Sure.
	And he wasted money and everything.
	So as Andrew mentioned, that lots of people actually meeting online, and that is true.
	The couples from my service, they are meeting online.
	But the way to make it effectively in dating and vet out their own women is why not to get them invested first with their time and just start video talking with them.
	Before you get actually to the real date, check and see if she is really into you.
	See her on the video.
	I mean, it is reported that when the guys get on the video dates, that nine out of ten women is not exactly to their standards.
	Not exactly what they were displayed in their profile.
	So why not to make it effective, save lots of money, talk to her on the video, see if there is connection, you know, and then when you go on the date, and Brian, I think men should pay for the meal in a restaurant, but I think men will not mind to do that when they know that they're actually with a high-quality female.
	And she, yeah, that she is definitely into you.
	Can I ask you a question?
	So these two girls are currently fucking five other men.
	Would you recommend that if I'm on a date with either of them, that I ought to pay for their meal?
	If I'm on a date with either of them.
	But why would you want to go on a date with them to begin with?
	I wouldn't.
	So it is the choice that you are making for yourself.
	Do you choose the women who has low standards and values or are you actually looking for a high-value partner for their quality relationship?
	It really depends what you're looking for.
	If you're looking just to get late.
	A lot of women are less than, they might be less than honest with what their situation is, so you have no way to determine that, right?
	So make them invest to talk with you on the video first.
	I mean, they're not being paid for it, right?
	We're talking about just video call, whatever it is on the phone, just video call, not paying per minute of her, like undressing.
	But Andrew is right.
	A lot of the women lie and they don't tell the truth.
	They're not sincere.
	That's the problem.
	A lot of people just lie.
	But women who have agenda to just go and have a free meal, they're not going to be investing their time to speak with someone on the video for free.
	They won't.
	So they will be vetted out.
	I mean, they're going to be all the way.
	I don't understand why a woman couldn't lie on video.
	A woman will not be willing to invest her time to speaking with a guy for a couple of hours unless she has sincere interest in him.
	I feel like you would just say that.
	I totally disagree.
	They do it all the time.
	They spend hours and hours of time talking to different men based on resources.
	But they're being paid for instance.
	I totally disagree with that.
	I'm talking about a woman who is actually just having just a regular conversation with a guy on the video without being paid for it.
	It's not IT.
	I disagree on that.
	I'm talking about the same thing, though.
	What I'm saying is I don't really understand why it is that if a guy makes a video call to a woman, suddenly he's immune from her being deceptive.
	I'm not saying he would be immune, but that gives him the opportunity to create connection, to get to know one another.
	So by the time they actually get on a real date, they already know if the interest is there, if the mutual interest is there.
	And come on, in a couple hours, man cannot figure it out if the woman is really into him or not.
	I mean, how much in common they have, if he is attracted to her, but if they see the mutual potential of the future together?
	Can I add something, please, to what you said and what you said?
	I work with a lot of women, and a lot of women literally, and I know that personally, they can sit with a man two, three hours on a video call to manipulate him.
	If they know that he has money and resources, they would play the game and they're a master manipulator.
	Just somebody they would talk with this guy, this guy, this guy, and after a year, they would take and smooch from each guy money and manipulate into the feeding them in a restaurant.
	Of course, also, of course.
	What is that?
	For the meal?
	Yes, because it's not just the meal.
	If the guy likes her and thinks he has a potential in the dates to get something, or either you want to go out with her or have sex, whatever, the women are master manipulator in order to have two, three, four guys on standby and take a look at her.
	Okay, well, I was talking about going in a restaurant for someone to actually pay for the dinner.
	Yes, but it's not just a restaurant.
	Girls not go just for just for the meal.
	Because if the guy is an idiot just to pay for her meal, even if she doesn't like him, he would be an idiot to put money on her account.
	Why do you think only fan and prostitution and all this is so successful?
	That's where men control their own wallet.
	I mean, it is.
	It's not just that.
	A lot of men don't know how to deal with women, especially the women of today.
	Because women literally destroy the world today, and I'll explain why.
	Because in the 50s, the women were completely different than the women today.
	I'm sorry, cut that combo short, but Brian, we lost audio on this end.
	What?
	Okay, well, let's have to call it back.
	What?
	I'll take care of it.
	Continue with your point.
	My point is that...
	Oh, wait, Nick, Nick, hold on, hold on.
	I ended it.
	Did you end it?
	You could have probably just done stop, start virtual camera.
	Just for next time, go ahead.
	My point is that the majority of the women today, and it started in the 70s, by the way, I don't want to be against anybody, but let's be honest.
	Radical feminism destroy the world and destroy women.
	Wait, wait, let me finish.
	And it destroys relationship.
	Because women kind of like destroy their own for themselves, destroyed it for themselves.
	Because you want to be equal to a man.
	You want men to treat you equally, everything.
	And you think that everything you do, you are perfect.
	What we have, a lot of women have, right?
	Men have more value when they get older than a woman.
	Okay?
	And if women come and treat men like a wallet and everything has to be transactional, okay, men lose interest.
	And today, we are suffering because high-quality women, like, okay, you're married, but high-quality women like me or other girls or other women that I know, right?
	They suffer because if I look good and I go with a man to dinner, immediately they think that if I look sexy and I have big boobs, immediately I'm going to go to bed, do a line of cocaine.
	You understand?
	The good women suffer from what the other women did because radical feminism literally destroyed the relationships today.
	I am not arguing that.
	It is absolutely true.
	The choices that women make for the type of men that they go out with, I mean, that should be on them, the type of choices that they make for themselves.
	Yeah, but everything confused.
	Men scared for women.
	Women complaining on rape when it didn't happen.
	Women go out to get men.
	You understand?
	Like, it's so chaotic today to go on a date.
	Men can talk to a woman and text with her and then she can go and sue him for something he didn't do.
	And I know a lot of people that it happened to them.
	You understand?
	Like, I have a son, and I warn him and tell him, don't do this, don't do that, because you don't know what's going to happen.
	You understand?
	Women literally destroyed it for us and for a relationship and for men and for women.
	It is.
	Does anybody disagree with her?
	Just curious.
	I think that men also, though there's no.
	I think both sides have their advantages.
	It starts with women, though.
	No, it starts with women, because we are the stubborn.
	We are the ones that...
	Hold on, let her finish.
	Go ahead.
	Well, like, me in particular, or like, we've all, I know, have probably heard men mature later than a woman does.
	So I feel like finding a connection with someone my age in particular is really hard.
	So then okay, we maybe go for older men, but then it does come off as us looking to use them for resources.
	It's not what we talk, it's not what I meant at all.
	Well, and also, but I'm saying that I don't think it's only women.
	I think that there are issues on both sides that we can.
	It's kind of a weird thing to say, because even if we were to grant that women mature faster than men, they're not.
	They're not maturing to the age of like many years quicker than men, right?
	So maybe maybe a man matures or a woman matures like two years quicker, let's say, or something like that.
	But in an age gap relationship you're usually talking about, you know seven eight nine, ten years, something like that, not within two or three years.
	So, but I'm not really sure that that.
	That that means that much, even if women do mature quicker than men.
	You want to continue with your point?
	Yeah, it's not.
	It's not even the.
	I'll explain.
	Because you're younger than me, because of my age, I saw the generation changes.
	I'm not patronizing you in any way, but I'll explain.
	Right when I was younger, in your age, sex was not so free and accessible.
	Women have more class.
	She would carry it.
	You know women that sleep around.
	Nobody would take them seriously or marry them or want to get into a relationship with them.
	Today, with only fans sorry, with disrespect, but with only fans and porn and everything, women think they're doing something good because they value.
	They replace value with money.
	They think if they have money, they have value.
	But what's gonna happen when you get to my age?
	Okay, you realize that you didn't surround yourself by good men and good people that protect you.
	Because if a woman have a good upbringing, surrounded by a good brother, good friends, good family, good men that she dating, she would never go to this route.
	She would protect herself because the the emotional and psychological damage that happened to women after they've been in a in a sexual uh profession.
	It's gonna damage you so bad.
	So even if you make 20 million dollars or 100 million dollars, you can never replace your emotional, physical and and physical damage that you're doing to yourself, because right now maybe you come from a broken home, poor house whatever, being sexually abused and money it's everything to you.
	But when you get that money and you realize that you have no value whatsoever, you're not gonna gracefully age like a 50 year old woman and you're not gonna gracefully age that people respect you and if you have kids, your kids gonna see it on the internet, people gonna laugh at them and everywhere you go.
	And also, I don't want to be disrespectful, but physically you're you're you're, you're.
	You know I don't want to say that word, but you know what I mean.
	We are women.
	We are the portal of the universe.
	We bring life.
	We have value and the value when we bring kids, when we get married, when we have family, when your kids grow up, and they see you're supposed to be a mother in this world and not to be a tool.
	So, every DNA that you have in your body from every man, it's got what's gonna make you sick from the inside for the rest of your life.
	And it's no money that could repair that.
	Yes!
	THAT'S AWESOME!
	Answer?
	That was good.
	The chat's going off.
	They're like, go off, queen.
	Yeah, you've got it.
	She's cooked.
	Let her cook.
	Let her cook.
	Okay, well done.
	I really said it from my heart because I feel like she could be my daughter.
	Which one?
	It's she and her.
	Like, I really, honestly, I feel really bad for you.
	Yeah, because you know, if it was my daughter, I would protect you.
	I just feel that your parents or whoever you grew up with didn't protect you.
	If you had the right love when you grow up, it would never happen.
	Like, I do actually agree with what you're saying.
	And, like, I feel like a lot of OnlyFans girls do come out of broken homes and stuff.
	But I was raised by an amazing family.
	And I kind of feel like it's not really how you're brought up.
	It's kind of even like the people that you kind of like hang around kind of thing.
	That's the environment.
	That's what I said.
	Where you hang out with.
	Exactly right.
	And I want to add something.
	Jana Jameson, she was a big, big porn star in America.
	She's my client/slash my friend.
	And we had a long conversation about it.
	She's not doing porn for the last 20 years, but everything she did when she was young affect her.
	Even though she's acting and she's modeling, she's so smart and she's a loyal friend.
	I can tell you from personal knowing her.
	No matter what she's going to do, it will never erase from her history.
	People and men in particular are going to see her as a sexual object.
	Even if you have a regular conversation, they're going to remember the tattoo on her butt and they go remember all the sexual activity she had.
	So you can never erase it.
	And if you're sitting in this podcast, there are a reason that you rethink about it and see how you're going to change it and give examples for a younger woman.
	Not to do that.
	I do agree with what you're saying, but I feel like within this day and age and like how the generation is, I was brought up, I never really got attention from my family.
	I didn't get love.
	And I got sexually assaulted by my stepdad.
	So I feel like that's why I started it.
	All men value me the same.
	So that's why.
	I have to tell you something.
	Okay?
	I have to tell you something.
	I grew up in a broken home.
	My dad sits in jail for murder my whole life.
	My uncle tried to molest me, but I was strong because the conversation I had with my dad.
	Be careful, Torres.
	Just say SA.
	Just say SA, like we told you guys.
	Sorry, sorry, sorry.
	There's no.
	Sorry, sorry.
	Can I continue?
	But I want to tell you something.
	You have to.
	Go ahead, continue.
	Sorry.
	You have to protect yourself in this world.
	If you won't protect yourself, nobody will protect you.
	Because when you're at your home, you're protected.
	But when you go out to the street, it's a jungle.
	Everybody is out to get you, not just men.
	If you won't protect yourself, don't go from one incident that happened and base the love of this to evaluate who you are as a person.
	You're not a sexual being.
	You're a lot more than that.
	Take the therapy.
	Listen to affirmation.
	Work on yourself.
	Don't go out of the house.
	Clean this energy out of you because you're a lot more than that.
	And you don't need to define yourself by one incident.
	Because if everybody would be like that, the world would be ruined.
	Okay.
	I agree.
	She agrees.
	Cool.
	I'm going to read something.
	One of the 69s that came through.
	I'll just read it, but we did boost it.
	Tips for the Australian with the weeks old self-tan.
	Fix your posture.
	Stop making stupid faces and sending dirty looks when people speak.
	It's unattractive.
	Sending dirty looks.
	Tips from a stay-at-home wife.
	That's she sent one in.
	So, all right.
	And then we have, hold on one sec here.
	We do have Nathaniel, and he says, subscribe to Michaela de Chatillon.
	How do you say that?
	Chatillon.
	That's me.
	Chatillon.
	Chatillon.
	Are you French?
	On YouTube.
	No, it's my married last name.
	Beautiful.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	And we have a good friend, Steve, over there in Canada.
	Hey, Steve.
	Thank Steve Roche for, thank you, man.
	Mercy Bucu for the Canadian 100.
	W. Brian, W. Andrew, Spray 10, 3FOs from Last Time On Garbage.
	Okay, wow.
	You guys are really winning them over.
	They're, yeah.
	Okay.
	Where were we?
	Andrew, were you in the middle of something?
	I forgot.
	Audio okay, I'm hoping.
	Yeah, yeah, we're all good.
	Oh, was our audio not hold on?
	Were we not sending?
	No, no, your audio was fine.
	Something happened with Discord.
	Okay, all right.
	Cool.
	So, I do want to dive into a little bit here on the gaming thing.
	You said him gaming wasn't a great thing.
	So, going around the table for the ladies, is you kind of look down upon things.
	Hold on.
	I'm not offended that you don't want to date a guy who doesn't game.
	We don't care.
	What's wrong with gaming, Anne?
	Is it a deal-breaker, red flag if a guy is a gamer?
	Not necessarily.
	I think it's important to have hobbies that don't necessarily add to your income or your earnings and any matter of that sort, something that you enjoy.
	But I think as well, with something like gaming, because it can definitely alter somebody's personality in terms of addiction, it definitely can have issues and cause issues onto relationships.
	I don't think it's the deal-breaker, but it's definitely not ideal for somebody to have overconsumption.
	I would agree with what she just said.
	I don't think that it's like a deal or no deal.
	It does give you the ick.
	It does.
	And it is a little bit of a red flag for me because my last relationship that I told you about, he was a gambling addict.
	And I feel like that's definitely like an indicator that, like, okay, if you're playing games, I don't know, that could lead to other things.
	Like she was saying, like, addiction.
	No.
	You're playing addictions.
	I'm not going that far, but I mean.
	It's definitely a sort of addiction.
	So it could.
	Does it give you the ick, Mia?
	Is it Maya or Mia?
	Either works.
	It could definitely give you the ick here and there, depending on how much they do.
	What about you?
	Does it give you the ick?
	No, I wouldn't say it gives me the ick.
	I mean, people should be allowed to enjoy whatever hobbies they have.
	Does your current boyfriend, does he play video games?
	Not that often, sometimes.
	What about you?
	What was the.
	You see, it's that not that often, sometimes, which I'm like totally okay with.
	This was just a little too often.
	It was an addiction.
	How many hours per day?
	And he knows it's a lot, too.
	It had to have been like at least like five, six hours.
	But it was like after rookie numbers?
	Those are some rookie numbers.
	I said at least.
	Yeah, that's rookie numbers.
	Brian's acting.
	Okay, so.
	Rookie numbers.
	And again, yeah, I'm all for er, and I've played some.
	Smash.
	I love Smash.
	What kind of games would he play?
	I think it was things like Call of Duty.
	Okay.
	Just, yeah.
	So, I mean, I'm all for rock band and things like that that we can do together.
	But when it's just, you know, me coming over thinking that we're going to do something together and I have to watch you for maybe an hour just and pretend to be interested.
	It was just five hours a day.
	That's okay.
	No, I don't mind it.
	I don't know, because the glasses for the gaming consider, because I love it.
	I mean, Menaquas?
	Yeah, I like that.
	I love this.
	I mean, I love guys that play as long as it's not taking over their lives.
	No, I wouldn't get the ick.
	It's not my thing, I'm going to be honest.
	Would I get the ick?
	No, but if you are if you have to become nocturnal to make your life work because you game that much, that's that's when I draw the line.
	But personally, through experience, I've dated a gamer.
	I like that he had the hobby.
	I like nerdy guys, but that was too much for me, and I wouldn't do it again ever.
	Ever.
	I think when you are in a relationship and you, if you had chosen that man for yourself, you just gotta love what he loves.
	And you know, my husband, he plays games.
	I have no idea what type of game he plays, but it is something shooting.
	So I call it like my honey is saving the world, you know.
	So, and he comes back like from playing like, Sweetie, did you save the world?
	Yeah, save the world.
	Sometimes I would sit next to him to see how he is saving the world.
	That's my man, you know.
	So, do I have interest in any gaming?
	No, absolutely not.
	But I'm there sometimes, you know, to support him, make a few jokes about it.
	And you just have to love what your men love because when you choose that guy for yourself, you've got to connect with what's important to him.
	Yeah, you have to accept it.
	It's not like he's hurting anybody.
	You chose him, you knew, right?
	So that's on you.
	I wonder what the equivalent is for women.
	That's a good question.
	Like taking maybe too long to get ready.
	Shopping.
	Girlfriend.
	Spending time on shops.
	Yeah, I have kind of a different angle on this, I think.
	This comes from having raised many women into adulthood and seeing their behavior.
	Women waste their time on so much frivolous shit, it's unbelievable.
	I didn't realize how long a manicure took, but it takes a long, long time.
	And they get them done all of the time, all the time, non-stop.
	Beautification processes take a long, long time.
	They waste their time on tons of frivolous stuff.
	Scrapbooking, all kinds of shit.
	Stuff that I don't care.
	Hang on.
	Stuff that I literally don't care about at all.
	And most men don't care about.
	But the reason I think that.
	Scrapbooking would be your ick.
	So scrapbooking would be your ick.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Well, maybe hobbies have changed, but they're all frivolous pursuits, essentially.
	I don't see women doing really anything in the way of hobbies that aren't time wasters, right?
	Crochet.
	No, all crocheting is huge right now, and people make so much money from it.
	Not all women.
	Just saying.
	Just spend time on social media or for the money.
	So I'm never saying, never saying women.
	When I say women, I never mean a monolith.
	I'm always going to leave some exceptions there, right?
	There's going to be a few that don't do this kind of behavior.
	But I've noticed that they definitely spend a huge amount of time on beautification, things like this, and just having their nails done in a certain way that has the right speck of green and they'll redo 15 times.
	And I've seen them do that over and over and over.
	Yeah, you're all laughing because you know it's true, right?
	They do it all the time.
	But what men, I think that the reason that men express through video games quite often is because men enjoy stories and they enjoy storytelling.
	And if you have looked at what comes out of Hollywood and what is on the TV, it's men are bumbling idiots.
	They're stupid.
	They're Homer Simpsons.
	Women are in charge.
	They're empowered.
	They're awesome.
	Video games used to be a pretty good venue for storytelling.
	And the stories used to be interesting.
	And so that's why men would be interested in playing them.
	And then when MMOs came out, that was again a way for men to hang out from all over everywhere and compete with each other without violence because we're not allowed to do that anymore, right?
	unless it's in some hyper-regulated top-tier industry.
	Exactly.
	So I just wonder if you're not looking at it from the perspective of men, but only from the perspective of attention.
	So I think it's, well, I just am not getting enough attention.
	I just feel like I have to compete with these hobbies that you have, not necessarily the hobby itself.
	So just an observation I've made.
	Good.
	Good observation.
	Good observation.
	I'm going to get into some of my pre-show notes here.
	So actually, I mean, one thing.
	I'd like to start off.
	Some of you may be familiar with the show.
	You've seen the show.
	Does anybody have any disagreements on anything?
	Those of you who've seen the shows, I know some of you maybe haven't.
	Maybe you've heard something Andrew said.
	Maybe you've heard something I've said.
	Any disagreements from anybody?
	We'll start there.
	No worries if not.
	I think I've heard you say that you find that you personally would not get married or you don't believe in getting married in this modern day.
	I think that's a very fair and rational outlook.
	I just still think that, I still think that you deserve to get married one day.
	And it will be good if you're careful.
	You just have to vet.
	You just have to vet properly.
	It's hard.
	An unmarried man may at least be a little bit more.
	I think you'll be happier.
	I think you'll be happier if you find it.
	I think one more reason not to.
	No, I think you'll be happier.
	I don't know you, so I can't say, but I think you'd be happier if you had a woman that was your partner and took care of all the stressful, tedious things at home so you could do your job, whatever it is, whether it's this or whatever, you end up doing it.
	You're going to be married for that?
	Not necessarily, but I think the chances are that a woman would do that for you, knowing that she is secured, like legally and also spiritually, by being married to you.
	I think the chances are better.
	Well, I think if you find a girl that did that for you, you'd want to say the marrying type.
	Unfortunately, I just think you'd be happier.
	That's my disagreement.
	Unfortunately, women made it and fixed, you know, rearrange everything so men don't have to get married in order to live a good life.
	Unfortunately, I'm saying it, you know.
	If it was back in the day, yes.
	But today, men don't need to get married in order to live a good life.
	They can have kids.
	They can hire a nanny, live in any, whatever.
	Unfortunately, a lot of women scared men from getting married.
	That's true.
	No, and I'm with you there.
	I completely agree.
	I think it's really rough out there.
	And another thing is I think that dating apps are, it's a small percentage, but I just don't think generally they're going to lead to true love.
	I think that's the only thing that's going to be.
	Let's start with the, let's do one thing at a time here.
	So let's go back to the marriage thing.
	So I can present to you kind of my reasonings for why I'm not thrilled on marriage and so present to you my thoughts on marriage divorce.
	But I actually think a better starting point, can you actually present to me compelling and convincing arguments why I or other men should get married, especially if we, and I'm hoping you don't make religious arguments on this, as opposed to having a long-term monogamous relationship?
	I just think there's something to be said for ceremony.
	I think there's something to be said for traditionalism and to leave religion out of it, because personally I would use that as something, but I get what you're saying.
	To generally suit most people, assuming people aren't religious, I think there is something to be said for the ritual of it and the commitment, the act of that commitment and dedication.
	don't know it's just so to be clear men should get married because of the ritual No, no.
	I said there's something to be said for the ritual of it, the ceremony.
	But I think it holds more weight.
	I think that if you ever got married, which you say it's not your thing, that's what I'm saying.
	What do you mean it holds more weight?
	I think that when you're married, I mean, I'm married myself, the connection between you two energetically is different.
	And I'm not like a, no offense, I'm not a woo-woo, like energy astrology girl, personally, but I just do think it feels different.
	And I think that it, I think human beings, our feelings and our emotions, I'm not saying to make decisions irrationally based on your emotions, but I think that what else do we have in this world?
	Like, you know, how we feel internally, that connection becomes deeper.
	It doesn't guarantee anything.
	But I just think there's something to be said for creating more depth to something.
	So what if I just tell you I'm not compelled by your by this?
	Can you give me anything else?
	Yeah, I can say you have free will and you can do whatever you want.
	Can I try it, Brian?
	Well, hold on.
	I want to give her an opportunity here.
	So I personally just reject that I would have a greater connection with a woman if we went through with the traditional ritual.
	So yeah.
	And I know, you know, there is an expectation from some women, not all women, that you spend X amount on the wedding ring and then, you know, people will spend five figures up to six figures on the ceremony.
	So on that front, we're actually down financially.
	We can do a courthouse marriage.
	Well, there's actually been a rise, even in wealthy couples.
	Now, do I have stats for this?
	No, but I've heard about it.
	That even wealthy people are starting to elope more versus spending tons on a ceremony.
	Well, I don't really care what other people are doing.
	I'd like to actually hear reasons for why men ought to get married.
	Well, for me, that's what it is.
	I think they ought to because I think that there is more of a weight to it.
	And I think more of a weight to standing up and promising somebody.
	But so let's say the divorce rate is 50.
	It's clear that it's not particularly effective in keeping people together.
	I get that.
	Just like there's a lot of things where in modern society it's not working, but it ought to.
	It ought to, but people's mindsets are not right.
	Let me ask you a question.
	So let's assume I'm the perfect husband.
	You know, treat my wife well, and she just isn't happy anymore.
	But there's no abuse.
	I'm treating her well.
	She's just not happy.
	Vaguely not happy.
	Is that pretext for a divorce?
	No, no, I think.
	No, hold on.
	In your worldview, you might think that that's not justification, but could she, under the pretext of being not, vaguely not happy, despite there being no abuse in the relationship, I'm providing, everything's going well, treating the kids well.
	Her being, her, how she feels, her being not happy, is that enough for her to just go and get a divorce?
	Are you asking me if I think it should be a legal reason, or are you asking me if I think she should just have the right to be?
	Does she have the capacity to get a divorce?
	Of course anybody has the right in the capacity.
	I do not think they should.
	Anyone can get a divorce for essentially any reason.
	I'm confused.
	Are you asking me if I think it's okay for her to do so because of how she feels?
	Because the answer would be no to that.
	Right, so, but I mean, there's nothing really binding you into a commitment.
	And there's a right.
	For instance, if he's talking weight, like he's talking the weight, right?
	This is kind of your argument.
	Brings more weight to the relationship.
	Wouldn't a pre-nuptial agreement also bring more weight to the relationship?
	I have nothing against a prenup.
	I understand that people feel a little bit hurt.
	No, I know.
	I know you have nothing against it, but if the argument for something is that it brings more weight because it makes the commitment more solid, wouldn't a prenup then make a relationship more solid just by the nature that it adds more weight to the relationship?
	Of a commitment.
	A prenup in a marriage.
	Yeah.
	Sure, why not?
	So then men ought to get pre-nubs?
	If they want to, of course.
	No, I don't.
	No, no, not if they, hang on, hang on.
	Then they should only get married if they want to.
	Right.
	I don't think they're forcing anyone to get married.
	So then Brian ought to only get married if he wants to.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah.
	So then what's the overall argument?
	I don't know if you're not going to think that Brian should get married is that there's no argument that he should.
	I don't understand this.
	Yeah, no, to answer what I think you're asking is that I think that it's worth it to not completely close your mind off to the idea of it and to pursue people with that intention of seriousness whether you want marriage or not.
	But I just think saying absolutely no, like I said, free will, do what you want.
	It doesn't affect me.
	I just think that ultimately does bring a higher sense of satisfaction to people's lives.
	Marriage is.
	But what would the actual difference be?
	So let's say I'm in a monogamous long-term relationship with a girl.
	What is the actual difference?
	Commitment and the.
	I am committed to her.
	Okay, but it proves it.
	But there's a problem.
	I honestly think that when you come at a relay, or what we might hear, if we hear, oh, but I never want to get married, is oh, I don't want something serious.
	It's hard for me to picture myself married because I grew up in a single parent household and I'm very much like, I want to be secure and I want to be financially stable before I enter into something like that.
	For the reasons that you mentioned, someone could in a relationship just be like, this is not working for me anymore.
	Can I say something?
	But I'm really confused on this point, though.
	I'm sorry.
	Coming back to, I'm sorry I didn't catch your name, Redshirt.
	What did you say to him?
	Michaela.
	Michaela.
	Okay, Michaela, I'm sorry.
	It's okay.
	I won't forget again.
	It's okay, Blan.
	I don't mind.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay, so back to this idea of that, well, this proves it.
	The marriage proves that you care, that you love me, this and that.
	Then wouldn't you staying with him absent this commitment prove that you loved him and all of that?
	So wouldn't that prove it the other direction?
	If he said, well, I don't want to do this thing, you said, but I do want to do this thing.
	You say, but that proves to me, if you do this thing, that you love me.
	And he says, but it proves to me that if you don't make me do this thing, that you love me.
	Then I think in that situation, you just have to make your choice.
	That's fine.
	I think that if you're with a man, you deeply and truly love him, he says, no marriage.
	I mean, you're better off being with him.
	I do think that.
	I just, being with him than not, let me be clear.
	But I do think that I just think there's something to be said about actually the ceremony of getting married.
	I know a lot of people get married and they shouldn't, and that's too bad, but it doesn't negate the, in my worldview, because we're talking about my worldview, it doesn't negate the importance of.
	Can I ask you a question about the ceremony?
	So you're married, you've been married for four years.
	How much did you guys spend on the ceremony?
	$100.
	Oh, you just, there was.
	So you didn't have a ceremony then?
	I had a ceremony.
	I did.
	I had it in.
	It's like a family friend, like a small group family friend.
	I knew someone that had a place that I could use.
	It was an outdoor place doing college.
	There was no music, there's no catering, there was no.
	There was music, but we had a speaker and we had YouTube premium, no ads, you know.
	But yeah, no, I spent $100.
	It was just on my dress.
	And it's a dress that I can re-wear.
	I understand a lot of people like...
	And it was very elegant, by the way.
	Just to clarify, I'm including.
	You mentioned you paid $100 on the dress.
	Are you talking about your costs?
	I'm talking about the total, like.
	No, I get your question.
	Okay.
	So it is $100 total.
	Total, yeah.
	That's not like the husband thing.
	Because I networked with friends and family and I found a way to set it up without spending any money besides my dress, which I just didn't have a white dress, so I needed one.
	No food.
	No, no, we didn't have anything.
	Nothing.
	No, let's be clear, though.
	Let's be clear.
	This is the.
	Oh, well, I mean, marriage certificate, however much that costs.
	I don't know how much that costs.
	I didn't order it, but to be clear, this was in 2020.
	So without seeing the buzzword.
	That was during the time when we couldn't have gatherings and stuff.
	But I was grateful for it.
	And I just, I didn't want to have a big thing anyway.
	But I understand if people do, it's fine.
	It's just not for me.
	I don't want to start a marriage off in debt.
	It's not my interest personally.
	I think that will harm the marriage.
	I mean, this just came to my mind.
	I haven't really parsed the argument very well.
	But so, I mean, do a lot of women look to men to be providers?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah, yes.
	And I haven't really totally parsed this, but it just.
	So wouldn't a woman, like, if she's looking to me to be a provider, and that's one of the attractive traits that she sees in a male partner, is to be a provider.
	Wouldn't she be more likely to stay committed to me if we were not married?
	Because if we are married, and for whatever reason, the relationship's on the rocks, for whatever reason, she now has actually a financial incentive to leave me.
	Whereas if we don't have a marriage, that's been, you know, it's been, say, it's been 10 years we've been married, she can continue to receive my provisioning after a divorce.
	Whereas if she's with me and we're not in a relationship, wait, I'm making a, this is no, no, I get, no, I get it.
	This is actually a bad argument.
	Actually, actually, actually, yeah, this might be a bad argument, actually.
	No, we get what you're saying.
	It's a valid argument.
	It's just that provision doesn't, it's not, like, just to be clear, it's not solely financial.
	It's protection.
	It's the expectation of protection.
	So I get what you're saying.
	Your fears are not invalid.
	I'm just saying I still think it's worth it.
	Okay.
	I appreciate hearing you out.
	Not convinced, but go ahead.
	That's okay.
	Okay, so it's a few angles to look at it.
	First of all, it's the legal aspect.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Second of all, I think if you look at the marriage back in the 50s, when the woman was most, you know, sitting at home and raising the kids and giving attention to the kids and to the husband and cooking and everything, it was different.
	Today, after how the world looks like with marriages, it's just an opportunity to both sides, you know?
	A lot of the divorced women married with a single man that never been married and supporting them.
	Or, well, the younger woman married with older men.
	A lot of the marriage, it's not what it used to be back in the 50s, right?
	People not going to marriage because, oh my God, I'm in love.
	I can't live without him.
	I love him.
	I would die for my man.
	Because this is how it's supposed to be.
	If you love your man, women physically build different than a man.
	Physically, I know it's hard to women to hear, but men build to be with more than one woman.
	And women build to be with one man.
	Even literally with our DNA, when we take every man in us, he stays with us forever.
	And men, when they have sex, they get it out of their system, right?
	So they can spread it to a lot of men, to a lot of women, sorry.
	So physically, it's completely different.
	So when you marry today and you treat your man like he always does something and you don't do your duty as a woman, like give him love, protect him, respect him, raise the kids, want to give the best to your kids that you have with him.
	Treat him like you're a king.
	Because literally, when you get into a serious relationship and you really want to live with this man for the rest of your life.
	Can you land the plan?
	Land the plan, please.
	Sorry, what does that mean?
	10 seconds.
	10 seconds.
	Sorry, sorry, sorry.
	So, do you want me to stop?
	No, you finish your point.
	So, my point is: if you're not marrying someone, so he could be your king and you would be his queen and you build something together for the rest of your life, there's no point getting married.
	And with all the women we see today, they're doing OnlyFans and doing whatever they want, so they don't really care about the relationship.
	The relationship lasts, so why would the man get married?
	They have so many options not to get married and they're afraid.
	And I can understand that.
	Okay.
	No, I can totally understand.
	If I was a man, to be honest, I would not get married.
	Because you can eat the cake and you wanted to go, go ahead.
	Yeah, I'm going to try to give you like three reasons why you should be married.
	Okay, so the first one: if we look at the financial, right?
	So, how much money are you spending on going out and everything else?
	According to the market.
	By the way, can I just, real quick, can I address these point by point as you bring them up?
	Because I think I know all three of the points, but can I just go?
	Can we go one point?
	Absolutely.
	Okay, so let's start with the first one: the financials.
	Yeah, so man, when he is dating, he's spending lots of lots of money, and he's actually the time and resources chasing women and so on.
	No, it's the first point.
	Hold on.
	Now, when you're committed to one woman, that's one point.
	That's the first one.
	I didn't finish it.
	Hold on.
	Okay, okay, no problem.
	When a man is committed to one woman, all of the resources are staying in the family in that relationship.
	Ton of time is being saved, which a man can invest into working or, you know, and so on.
	So, this is the first point.
	So, we'll look at the financial.
	You want to address?
	Let's go.
	On average, how much more are married men making than single men?
	Statistically, married men are making between 30 to 40 percent more than single men.
	I don't think it's quite that high, but but even hang on, let's assume for a second that it is.
	Their expenses are also 30 to 40 percent higher when they're married with children.
	So, the thing is, is that it's a really strange argument to say that, wait, if you're married, you're going to make more money because if you're single, you're going to, you're not going to need to make as much money.
	Hang on, hang on.
	So, so let me finish.
	Let me finish.
	So, if your earning potential suddenly rises to meet the demand of the family, because now you must make that much money, I'm not really sure that that's a compelling argument for a single man who says, But absent a family, I don't need to make that kind of money.
	So, like, it seems like a wash to me.
	Well, my point was not about men making more money.
	My point was about men actually saving lots of time on chasing women, trying to find a partner and spending money on the dates or taking them out or traveling.
	Wait, wait, wait, hang on.
	That makes no sense.
	So, because Brian's saying, why should I get married?
	You're saying, well, one of the reasons is because financially, you can then focus the vast majority of your money on your family.
	Oh, well, that's great.
	And you'll even make a little more money.
	Well, that's great too.
	But the problem you run into is, but if I have no family, I don't need to make as much money.
	So who cares?
	Okay.
	That seems like a pretty glaring problem, right?
	Now, second point, right?
	It's kind of connected to that.
	So again, statistically, it had been proven that men who are married and who have kids, they are more motivated to make more money.
	And it just wakes up man in him that he is able to step up, he is able to reach his fullest potential as a man.
	Depends which woman you have to do.
	Hang on, before you characterize it as meeting their full potential, right?
	Perhaps their full potential is to be a poet, or perhaps their full potential is to do something that doesn't earn a lot of money.
	And that is unlocking their full potential, right?
	We assume that just because, well, they make more money because they need to, or they're talking about Brian.
	Their kids will starve if they don't work an additional 20 hours per week, right?
	Why should we assume that that's unlocking their full potential exactly?
	Well, we are talking about bringing the points for Brian, right?
	So, my yeah, for Brian.
	I'm saying for Brian.
	Like, why should we assume that because now Brian has to work 20 more hours a week, thus, he does make more money, but he has to make that money so he can raise the family.
	I don't understand how that's unlocking Brian's potential.
	I'm not saying that he's going to be working 20 more hours per week or whatever.
	It will just activate the resources in his life throughout the day.
	But hold on, wait, wait, what do you mean, activate the reading?
	Where do you think these resources in his life are going to come from?
	Are they going to magic themselves out of thin air or is he going to have to work for them?
	Of course, he has to work for them.
	Wait, but okay, so then if he's making more resources, my assumption is going to be that he's doing more work, right?
	Exactly.
	Not necessarily.
	Yeah, but hold on.
	I think it's necessary.
	I think it follows pretty well, right?
	Yeah, but so hold on.
	More work, more resources.
	Again, but I'm still a little bit confused here because you said, well, if you have a wife and children, what if I have a monogamous long-term girlfriend and children?
	We'll get to that.
	But you say it'll motivate you more.
	But I could have that same motivation from a girlfriend, and I could have kids out with her out of wedlock.
	You can't.
	So I was going to bring up my third point.
	Well, no, no, no, no.
	But explain why I can't.
	You want me to explain why you can't?
	Well, okay.
	I can certainly have children without being married.
	I agree with that.
	Okay.
	So I would argue that that's probably the bigger, you know, having children is the bigger motivator than just simply being married.
	Okay.
	So I can have children out of wedlock, and then I could have a long-term girlfriend.
	So what is the difference between being married and having children and being in a long-term relationship and monogamous and having children?
	What is the differentiation there?
	I didn't get to my third point yet.
	Only in a woman is married.
	When it comes to motivation, though, I'm sticking on to your second point.
	When it comes to the motivation component, is your third point going to address the differential in motivation?
	It is going to address the connection with when you are in marriage and relationship.
	It's going to address the intimacy and connection, where your partner is actually going to be backing you no matter what.
	And your partner is going to be by your side and you will be growing together.
	And it is the connection that is important that typically when you are in just a relationship and you went with divorce rate.
	Divorce rate happens when you choose poorly.
	Yes, and it is high divorce rate.
	I don't think so.
	Oh, so it's the men's fault.
	Okay.
	I'm not saying it's men's fault.
	I'm not saying, did you hear?
	No, you said when the man chooses poorly.
	No, I said when a person chooses poorly.
	So women, they can make a poor choice as well.
	Yeah, they can, but women overwhelmingly initiate divorce.
	Exactly.
	I don't know statistics on that.
	It's like 70 to 80 percent of divorces.
	Well, you see, when you choose the woman who actually has the values and right values for the family, that's when you end up in a percentage of secure relationship and without a divorce.
	I think, in addition to what you were saying regarding like passion and kind of emphasizing the relationship through marriage, regardless, that's still applicable in any term of relationship, whether it be long-term without marriage and that of in-marriage.
	So I can still have the same passion per se in a relationship with Brian, where I'm connecting to him and I'm giving him all of my support constantly, regardless of being with a ring, regardless of having a ceremony.
	I can still actively do that.
	That's completely just up to my integrity and to the passion that I have for that one person.
	So that's not to say that that's incapable and impossible for somebody that's in a long-term or short-term committed relationship.
	That's still applicable.
	What you guys are emphasizing is just somebody's choosing to give that emphasis in passion.
	That is applicable.
	So that isn't a valid point.
	Somebody just being married doesn't mean that they're always going to give passion and care and have the courage to actually emphasize their whatever.
	It's an insurance to have these, then they're in the wrong.
	They should.
	Because they committed to it.
	So yeah, that's fair.
	So wait, hold on.
	I know you wanted to come in, but I want her to finish point number three.
	And then Andrew wanted to come in, so go ahead.
	Well, my point number three was actually about that true connection that people have and being able to reach to those to the deepest level of intimacy, which is when people are holding themselves back, which actually addresses what you just shared.
	When people are not willing to make a full commitment, it's like they're restricting walls.
	So for the woman to fully commit, when man is not committing fully, he's almost like helping her to activate the insecurities of some sort of insecurities in her.
	When a woman knows that a man is 100% committed, that gives her peace.
	I think that should have been prior.
	Yeah, so I'm going to give you kind of a counter argument to this is that that's a very gynocentric view, right?
	Oh, well, if you marry her, then it'll activate your resources.
	Well, hang on, hang on.
	Hang on.
	Let me finish.
	If you pick the right one with the values.
	Hang on.
	Hang on.
	I just let you put your whole point out.
	Let me put mine out and you can counter it, okay?
	It activates his resources, resource level activated, right?
	The button is pushed, and now the resources, he's going to be making that money for her, taking care of her.
	How kind of her to allow him to activate those resources for her?
	And then when we move to your third point here, it's if you give her the commitment, she won't be so insecure.
	Well, how great and swell for her that she won't be as insecure if you commit to her and can then have your entire life wrecked, destroyed, and become fleeced because of the money.
	If you choose poorly because these overwhelming percentages of women doing that to you, if you choose to all of this, all of this seems highly gynocentric, and it is putting basically all the responsibility on the men, as far as I can see.
	No, Andrew, I have high respect for you.
	But again, I want to talk.
	I was talking about when men choose high-value woman.
	Woman is the one who actually creates the relationship.
	She has to be the love and care and joy and support.
	She has to be 100% committed.
	Everything starts with the woman, first of all.
	So high-value woman, she will be backing her man no matter what.
	No matter the troubles he is going through, no matter the financial challenges, no matter his habits or whatever.
	She is by his side.
	She is becoming that fuel of the relationship.
	Woman is capable of either inspire her man and motivate her man for all kinds of things that he didn't even know possible.
	And we go for everything.
	The financial, the sexual, the emotional.
	And everything starts with the woman.
	Women seems like really basic stuff, though.
	Like you're kind of, the way that you're framing it, you're almost framing this is like, this is a really special thing that a man gets that they have a basic level of loyalty from a woman and she's not being a backstabbing bitch, right?
	That just seems like it's, hang on, that just seems like a really basic thing that they should be doing anyway and not like it's extra.
	It's not, it doesn't feel like it's an extra thing that you should be getting on, you know.
	If it is so basic, why women are not doing it?
	That's where, I mean, the results, what is going on, right?
	Why the guys are feeling deprived of the love, attention, gratitude, appreciation.
	So, if it is so basic, then why women don't do it?
	We have the pandemic of men who feel love from women.
	I think it's because they listen to women too often.
	I think that that's one of the primary reasons that they listen to terrible fucking advice from women all the time.
	No, that's what you're talking about.
	Here's the thing: here's what I've learned from doing this podcast so much.
	Here's what I've learned, right?
	It's not just that women have really stupid takes a lot of the time, but it's also that women give each other some of the worst fucking advice I've ever heard, but they really give men bad advice.
	Exactly.
	Can I not get advice from advice about what it is that they actually want?
	I mean, fucking terrible advice, right?
	So, what I every time I get to do is that the next woman who's like, Look, the last guy I was with was a narcissistic jerk, and he was an awful junkie, and he was emotionally abusive.
	And we go, Really?
	Well, how long were you with him?
	And they're like, six years.
	Well, okay, what about your last relationship?
	Oh, he was great.
	How long did that last?
	Two months, right?
	And I think to myself, okay, there's some disconnect that's going on here.
	So, what you are describing is something that's not a problem.
	Because the thing that you hang on, I'm almost done.
	The thing you claim you hate seems to be the thing that you go for the most.
	And then you kind of pretend that's not what you want, and it's super weird to me.
	I don't understand it.
	And then, when I hear your advice, your advice is like gynocentrism, gynocentrism, gynocentrism.
	Tell me this specifically: what the fuck is a man getting here besides just basic human decency from a woman under your program?
	Like, what does he actually get?
	So, Andrew, what you are describing, you are describing low-value woman.
	First of all, it is that it is not high-quality.
	The low-quality woman will go to her girlfriends and will speak badly about her man, and she will get the understanding of her girlfriends.
	Yes, the high-value woman, she will not be speaking badly about her man.
	She will, first of all, she will not judge him for his actions.
	She will look at the root where it is actually coming from, his behavior, his advice.
	That sounds like that's the basic expectation men should have in a relationship.
	It's a very basic.
	I'm asking above this idea of a basic expectation that I would get from a friend.
	So, I would expect a friend of mine to also not be a backbiting, conniving piece of shit and to get my back in the middle of the moment.
	I find myself in, even if he didn't, hang on, hang on, even if he didn't agree with me.
	So, what am I getting above that of what I would get from just a basic friend from this gynocentric program of yours?
	Give me the thing that I get.
	You get complete 100% emotional connection.
	You get support.
	I don't think you need every marriage.
	Not who hears your needs and their hundreds.
	That's what I always wanted.
	Deep emotional connection with a woman.
	That's what I always want.
	I wish Santa Claus would bring it to me my whole life.
	A deep emotional connection with a woman.
	That sounds awful.
	It sounds awful.
	The thing is, you know what I think?
	You know what I've noticed most men want?
	They want a really shallow emotional connection with women.
	They don't want a deep emotional connection.
	That's the society what creates men and women right now.
	Everybody, the shallow.
	That's where AI comes in, and that's where AI is going to destroy the humanity.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, first of all, I want to say that it's not just men are like this or just women are like this.
	We are all human beings and we're all doing things wrong.
	Second thing: First of all, if I were a man, I would not get married since I know women so well.
	And unfortunately, I do have amazing girlfriends that I love, that I know that they're amazing.
	But the majority of women out there are damaged from social media, from growing up, from whatever it is, right?
	But like Andrew said, if a man wants to get married today, what's the point?
	You understand?
	What?
	For having kids, he can have a donor.
	If he wants somebody to clean his house or cook for him, he can pay for that nowadays.
	And today, unfortunately, most of the women looking just for a provider without giving the work and the effort for the men.
	But if a man lucky enough to meet a good woman, like for example, this woman, that she looks like she's loyal to her husband.
	Thank you.
	Okay?
	If men lucky enough to meet the right woman that would be there for him, okay, I would go to that extreme, even if he cheats, or even if she, no, I'm not talking about a guy to go every day with a different woman, but even if he traveled and he had something with another woman, she would be strong and smart enough not even to mention that, right?
	Because men and women build completely different than one another.
	And to have a relationship within the marriage, women, unfortunately, we are born to have a certain amount of time to have kids, to raise the kids, and to grow up gracefully.
	And now the women don't want that.
	They want to extend it for a long term, to do whatever the hell they want.
	They want to abuse men after they have babies and emotionally confused with the hormones and everything.
	A lot of the women treat men like, sorry to say, but like shit.
	And a lot of the women that I know, I know like five clients at least for the last two months, they're telling me how they're cheating the men very, very creatively.
	And when I'm looking and hearing these stories, I'm saying, what's the wonder that a lot of men don't want to get committed?
	And what's the wonder that a man go on a date and prejudge a woman when you have so many women like that, that that's the only thing they care?
	Can I bring up the point made up in the comment recently?
	You might have.
	And her point in the comment was basically, I think she said she was from Uruguay or Uruguay.
	It's below the threshold.
	oh it's like oh no sorry she just made a good we're not gonna i mean we just for the sake of the other people who donate above the threshold okay Okay, no, so then I'll talk about something else.
	Like, it has to be USD.
	So in Costa Rica, for example, I traveled to Costa Rica.
	I stay with the host family in Costa Rica.
	And I remember her telling me that there, like 10% of the people that are together with kids are actually married.
	It's the expectancy that you stay with your person.
	They don't need this contract in order to then go above and beyond, like you're kind of mentioning.
	It's where, you know, you find your person, you're always with your person.
	You raise kids with this person, and you don't need a legal binding contract in order to confess your love or prove your love to a person.
	I'm sorry if I forgot to say Sheena.
	Sheena said, you know, the good woman, she would be okay with a man cheating on her.
	Would you be okay with her?
	Not cheating on a woman.
	Not cheating.
	No, you didn't get what I'm saying.
	I'm not saying if I have a man that every day you go out and sleep with women.
	But if my husband is loyal to me, loyalty is not always based on sexual activity.
	If he did something and I don't know about it, I don't want to know about it.
	Sometimes cheating actually helps the marriage.
	But that's where that means that you don't have the true intimacy in a relationship.
	That's not true because men build different.
	Men build to sleep with multiple women.
	Women build to be with one man.
	One man.
	Wait, Ari, I'm sorry.
	Are you saying that you want your man to cheat on you?
	No, I don't want my men to cheat on me, but I'm saying sometimes a man can be with a woman that she's trash and come back home and appreciate what he's got at home.
	You understand?
	When a woman cheat, she cheats.
	Women cheat.
	Okay, listen, listen, hang on.
	Because you have kind of a habit of going on some kind of long-winded diatribe.
	So I want to kind of nail some of this down, okay?
	So when you're talking about a situation, a specific situation where a man can step out and realize he had something better at home.
	Okay, I agree.
	Like for the sake of argument, it logically makes sense to me that that could happen in some cases, right?
	Yeah.
	But it also makes sense to me that that's doing something fucking horrible to your woman.
	Of course.
	You would agree with that, right?
	Yes.
	Yeah, so I mean, you would recommend men don't do that, correct?
	Of course, I recommend not to do it.
	But I've seen, like, for example, men in Dubai or Bedouin in the Middle East that they have one woman or two women.
	And it's completely different when you hear in this life that you live in America that everything is either black or white.
	It's a lot of type of marriages, it's a lot of type of relationships.
	It's not one model, and that's it.
	We go just by that.
	But I'm saying, in general, when a man cheats, it's not like a woman cheat.
	If a woman cheats, she literally doesn't love her spouse.
	If a man cheats, he can have sex with a woman and forget about it the next day and go back to the woman he loves.
	You know the reason why a man cheats?
	Yeah, I mean, so I think I can see what you're saying here from a logical standpoint.
	So I do think that they have different natures in that what you're saying here makes some sense.
	That men don't have the same emotional attachment that women do.
	That's what I mean.
	If women are stepping out, they're kind of showing the ultimate sign of I don't care about you, whereas for a man, it could be purely physical.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Exactly, exactly like you said.
	Yeah, yeah, I get that.
	But then wouldn't that kind of move towards a model of a one-size-fits-all marriage?
	It should be one man, one woman.
	There should be some type of, I don't know, behavioral modifications which happen so that this does work.
	Listen, in America, in America, in most of the open countries, I mean, free countries, yes.
	But I've seen models in the Middle East.
	Okay, I know women that marry to a guy that have two and three women, and they live perfectly fine.
	They don't have a problem with that.
	One of them taking care of the children, one of them having sex in this night, one of them.
	And they don't have another choice.
	It's not true.
	Because there is no way to find another guy, so they just settle.
	It's not except in the circumstances.
	I thought like that too, but it's not true.
	Well, that argument makes no sense because if multiple women were attached to one guy, then wouldn't that create a surplus of women for the other men?
	No, there hasn't been a surprise.
	I'm sorry, a surplus of men for the other women.
	It would create a surplus of men for the other women.
	So I don't understand what it is.
	I don't understand what you said.
	Sorry, explain to me because I really didn't understand what you meant.
	Well, she was saying, well, look, it's because they have no other choice, right?
	They're limited by option.
	Yeah.
	But that can't really be true that they're limited by option because if multiple women are with one guy, right, then wouldn't that create a surplus of men for the remaining women to choose from?
	That's what I'm saying.
	So I was talking about the mentality in the former Soviet Union within Slavic republics and so on.
	The numbers did not match up starting from World War II.
	There is more women in some areas than men to begin with.
	Like in some parts of Ukraine, there is like three, four guys to, three, four women to one guy.
	Also in Israel.
	Okay, so it starts, same thing, right?
	Okay.
	So it starts that there is not enough males to begin with.
	And so men, they have their pick.
	Yeah, so women have no choice but to stick to the guy who is married to them no matter what he is doing because they just know there is...
	Okay, let me try this.
	Let me try this a different way.
	We make it super easy.
	You're on a desert island, there's 10 women and there's 10 men, okay?
	And five of the women pair off with one of the men, okay, leaving nine men and five women.
	Which group has more options with the other group?
	Not men.
	Men.
	Obviously.
	Wait, what?
	What?
	Who said men?
	Who said men would have more options with the other groups?
	Who said that?
	Me.
	Oh, no.
	Everybody has equal options if they choose right for themselves and fair up together.
	But you say there's 10 women and 10 men.
	Let's try this again.
	Let's try this again.
	There's 10 men and there's 10 women.
	And five of the women pair off with one man, leaving nine men and five women.
	Which group has more options to choose from than the other groups.
	Of course the women.
	Yes, the women.
	Yes, the women.
	So that's why I didn't understand your argument.
	It made no sense.
	I was like, what are you talking about?
	That makes no sense.
	Also, Andrew, if you put one man on an island with few women, right?
	With one man, we can literally create a village.
	With 10 men, if you put one woman, right?
	If you put one woman, it's completely different.
	Women build different.
	Women can have children.
	Men can instinctive, how do you say, pregnanate, yeah, pregnant so many women.
	Men come to actually release their sperm.
	Sorry to say that online.
	Put their sperm.
	You're giving a lot of emphasis to this releasing of the sperm thing.
	Physically listed.
	They're really releasing it.
	Like they're setting it free.
	They're setting it free.
	Because men.
	Because I'll explain.
	Because men, when men have sex, you forget about it.
	When women have sex, they get attached to more.
	It's different.
	Everything completely different for a woman and for a man.
	And women don't get that.
	That's what I mean.
	Andrew, what is your opinion about monogamous relationships?
	Should it be one woman, one man, or should men?
	Yeah, it should.
	And the reason it should, and that should be something which is not only normalized and pushed, is not just from the perspective of Christian ethics, but from a perspective of stabilization of society.
	Society has never done better ever, ever, than no societies, in fact, do better than societies which have monogamous populations.
	Because what it does is it guarantees the underclass of men who traditionally have never been able to send their seed free, right?
	They've never been able to set their seed free.
	Let it go, right?
	They've never been able to do that traditionally.
	In monogamous societies, they can.
	And so what you would consider the underclass tends to stay a lot more happy.
	And you end up with a lot more genetic diversity, which I think ultimately is pretty good for the gene pool.
	We don't want to be too interrelated.
	That ends up leading to all sorts of different problems, right?
	No, Andrew, I agree with you completely.
	But I've seen, you know, I grew up in a country when you have Muslims, Christians, and Jews.
	And you see the Muslims live in a certain way, the Christian live in a certain way, and the Jewish live in a certain way.
	And I've seen in all three that they have, some of them have happy family, happy marriage, and it's not my point of view.
	Like in my religion, you're not allowed to marry with two, three women, right?
	But I've seen people who live like that and they're okay.
	So, you know, everybody and their culture.
	I'm not judging.
	You guys can keep going.
	Yeah, sorry.
	I honestly feel like we maybe are, not that I'm on the no marriage, but I also am on the, I don't necessarily think that it's necessary.
	I don't think we did a great job of giving him reasons as to why he should.
	The thing that I wanted to mention, Brian, sorry, I know you're, But that you just don't necessarily want to go into it with that mindset.
	The no, I'm like absolutely against marriage.
	I feel like it's like it would kind of turn off some people.
	You should go into it with a yeah, openness about it.
	And again, if you find, I think you hopefully will find someone who changes your mind on that.
	But yeah, I hope you're not closed up to the idea of you finding someone who you're just like this person I want for the rest of my life.
	But then again, again, to my point, I don't think you necessarily need a contract.
	Exactly.
	Our society creates so many people who have avoidant intimacy.
	So like in your case, like you said, that you were dating someone with a long-term relationship for a year.
	So, but you said that that was the reason why you guys fell apart.
	What?
	No, no.
	No.
	It was just the distance.
	Distance, yeah.
	How the distance created the obstacles?
	I mean, Europe.
	Yeah, but did you guys have a connection with each other?
	You said that that was one of your best relationships, right?
	It was, yeah.
	I think it was just the phases that we're going into our lives.
	I was going into college.
	He was going into military in Switzerland for about a year and a half.
	So I wouldn't have been able to see him for like over a year and a half.
	So there's multiple factors that played into it besides, yeah.
	But if there is true connection and you as a woman really saw the potential, but did you see the potential for this man as your husband?
	100%.
	But I was also really young at the time as well.
	But that person was also in the same boat as me where he was like, I don't need a piece of paper to love you unconditionally to show you that you're, you know, a reality, yeah.
	So it's avoidant intimacy.
	It's like both of you guys are avoiding that true connection and intimacy.
	No, what do you mean we're avoiding it?
	We're very much in love with you.
	What does this mean?
	I'm not sure if this idea that keeps popping up of true connection.
	Can you flesh this out?
	Because you keep saying this about.
	Yeah, because you're saying that I didn't have a true connection, but I know what type of connection that I had this person.
	Do you think I should have married this person?
	No, I'm saying that couples who truly see the potential with each other, they should have a plan how they move forward.
	If there is no plan, then you are living up to whatever the universe for, and of course there's going to be disasters.
	So when do you put that plan into place?
	Right at the beginning.
	You got to know.
	You're going to put so much pressure.
	You're then going to act like it's ultimately like, okay, if someone, if I started dating someone and then a week after, they were like, all right, so what about, or so when do you think around the timeline, when do you think you'd want to get married?
	When do you think you'd want to?
	i'd be like bro so it is about it is about being authentic okay for First of all, you, if you want to pursue that.
	I don't think you need authenticity, or I don't think marriage brings out authenticity.
	I'm not talking just authenticity.
	I'm going to hang out, guys, one at a time, one at a time.
	Okay, so let's let her respond real quick.
	Go ahead, Green Dress.
	Sorry.
	I'm terrible with names, but it's easier for me to identify you by what you're wearing.
	So anyway, yeah, so go ahead and respond.
	Do we go green, green?
	Green, wish, green, wish, brown.
	Green dress, green shirt.
	Sorry.
	I think it is.
	I think we lost him.
	I don't know what it is.
	No, I'm still here.
	I'm still here.
	So I was just saying, just one at a time so that we can get to the heart of it.
	So if you wanted to start Green Dress with your point, so that she could be a little bit more.
	I think that regarding Andrew, a lot of if you grew up in a family when they have family values and you see your parents marriage and they have a great marriage and they're faithful to one another and they have good marriage, that's what you grow up to do.
	But if you grow up in a home when either mother cheating or the father cheated and this is what they see, this is what you grew up to be.
	Or if you're a young man that's been cheated in your early 20s and women treated you like shit and used you and dismiss you, of course you're going to grow up to be scared from women and don't want to get married and be in a relationship.
	So it all really depends how you grow up.
	Aren't we adults and aren't we supposed to be responsible for our own choices what we want to be?
	I mean regardless, let me answer.
	I tell you why not because a lot of the people, okay, they're not even getting mature until they're 50 or 60 because they carry trauma.
	A lot of people, like this girl that we're sitting here, she talked about her sexual abuse in her being 19, she still carried that trauma and activate her life from that trauma.
	So a man that's been hurt when he was young or saw his parents get divorced or whatever it is, they carry and activate their life and go through their life from that trauma.
	But you have to understand that there is trauma that needs to be addressed and that's what it takes to become an adult, to address it, to work through that and make the choices for yourself who you want to be.
	Because if we would be the product of what was only happening in our past and dragging our past with us, then we would not be progressing in anything.
	Well, I just want to ask you: did you, or I just want to ask you a question.
	Did you grow up with a married household?
	I was, my father, he died when I was one years old.
	I do know what it is to be that word that we're not supposed to discuss.
	I do know that in my personal experience, but the whole thing is to understand the trauma and to understand how to address it.
	How to, in most of the cases, for us as women who had a traumatic past like that, it's for us to understand what is happening.
	What is actually the result of our behavior and how we are able, because most of the workers are asking me to ask her.
	I'm sorry, go ahead.
	I want to answer her.
	Let's move it on.
	Let's move it on.
	Make your final point.
	Make your final point.
	You each have 10 seconds.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, I want to answer you.
	10 seconds each.
	Go ahead.
	Like I said, you keep talking, they shouldn't do this, they shouldn't do that.
	Most people don't have a healthy inner conversation.
	They don't even figure out themselves by the time they're 50 or 40 or 60.
	So, how are they going to come and treat the other person normally when they didn't figure out themselves?
	Well, they can address to the therapists or people who actually are.
	But they don't know that they're in that position.
	Most people don't know.
	No, it's got nothing to do with age.
	I mean, it's pretty clear.
	If your personal life, if your personal life is not to your standards, then it should be a signal that something is wrong, right?
	A lot of people, listen, a lot of people have a really twisted inner conversation.
	Like this girl, that she looks normal.
	And when you talk to her, she doesn't look normal.
	I'm not surprised you're talking about it.
	She's going like this and I'm not even going to do it.
	No, not her.
	Her lip is like she's got a second upper lip with all that fucking bullshit ass lip filler in it.
	No, but she's not going to be able to do that.
	Furthermore, both of them, I'm sure the viewers have already come to this conclusion.
	They just walked off the set without any justification or for any reason whatsoever.
	Now, in the messages, she's saying that truthfully, I mean, you can tell by their attitude, they just, I don't know, oh, I don't want to be here, but we said we were going to be here, so we're here because whatever.
	She's saying, and this is the post-hoc justification for why they left because they sent me a DM.
	She said, wasn't really comfortable after I talked about my essay to defend myself, was on the verge of crying.
	Don't want to embarrass myself like that.
	Even though we moved on from the conversation completely.
	That's valid.
	I saw it.
	I felt bad for her.
	I'm an empath.
	What do you mean?
	Wait, wait, wait.
	You have to understand.
	She brought it up.
	But she's just 19.
	I don't know if she went over that trauma.
	How are you supposed to know how she feels?
	Yeah, I know.
	But the thing is, why would you bring it up if it's not something you want to talk about?
	Because sometimes when people are put on the spot, they say things that they didn't expect themselves to say, and there's just that pressure.
	She wanted to let it out, and she was just waiting for the opportunity in the moment.
	Okay, and you're on a podcast.
	Like, unfortunately, she was in full control of what she could say and not say, what she could share in the church.
	We were told initially to explain.
	But don't share specifically what we were comfortable with sharing.
	So yes, although it may have made her uncomfortable, and I completely agree with you.
	I think that we just didn't have a deep emotional connection.
	But Andrew, Andrew.
	Exactly.
	Wait, Tom, you got it.
	One second.
	Andrew, I totally agree with you what you said about the emotional connection, but we have to remember she's 19 years old.
	She could be our daughter, and she's destroyed and damaged from the inside anyway.
	So, you know, and she's a little bit of a daughter.
	She's a vote.
	But instead of infantilize women, I'm sorry.
	But wait a second.
	Instead of bashing her like this, we could at least give her a lesson in this podcast so she could vote.
	No, she's not here.
	She got a great lesson on how to not be infantry.
	Definitely, right?
	I'm not going to infantilize her because of her age.
	Instead, I'm going to treat her like the adult, which she can vote as.
	Somebody that abused their body and soul and raped themselves over and over again.
	Fuck up.
	We specifically, multiple times coming from you, we told you before the show, avoid these topics.
	You've said it multiple times.
	Sorry, sorry.
	God damn, who gives up?
	She's probably fucking lying anyways.
	You think?
	I don't fucking know, okay?
	But I'm getting fucking upset because I've told you multiple times, avoid it.
	I'm sorry.
	Oh my god.
	And you're just fucking making, you're like...
	It's constantly at the same subject.
	God damn, bro.
	I'm not going to talk about it.
	I'm sorry.
	Let's talk about copyright.
	I felt bad for her.
	I felt so bad for her, honestly.
	And marriage.
	And relationship.
	Could we?
	I think the conversation of marriage has already died down.
	It's now converged onto the Aussie girl and why she left.
	Now, can we move forward with anybody else's discussions on what they're against or what they're curious about, which Brian initially asked?
	It was simply, what do you have against whatever I've seen?
	Yeah, that's a great idea.
	It's literally all it's done.
	Yeah, that popped off.
	There's just one question.
	Thank you.
	Sorry, it's just frustrating.
	These two girls walk off.
	But you didn't follow the instructions either.
	I just saw you lean out of frame.
	You were told not to lean out of the frame and you leaned out of the frame.
	I'm tiny.
	You know?
	She's just a girl.
	But only if it's so little.
	That means they shouldn't be here.
	So they went to whatever they should be.
	And that's good.
	With the gratitude, acceptance, whatever.
	Bro, and I'll tell you, look, we'll move it on.
	I'll tell you precisely why we don't want to say those words.
	Bring it up.
	This girl walked off the show for precisely that reason.
	It's not a subject we're inclined to talk about.
	That's why we told you very specifically before the show.
	Okay.
	So.
	I apologize.
	Because people get very sensitive over it, and they, honestly, I don't believe anything that girl says at all.
	But she was about to cry, I swear I was.
	Her on the show for eight hours two days ago.
	She's the same person.
	She was literally two days ago.
	I didn't know she was here.
	Oh okay, that's fine.
	What about some of the stuff that we like sent in?
	Or yeah we'll, we'll get to it.
	Sorry, i'm just trying to uh, so okay anyways any, any disagreements from anybody about why I say we should let go and move forward.
	I absolutely disagree that there should be forgiving cheating of the partner in the marriage.
	I think there should be absolute commitment.
	I mean uh, I and I can only speak from my marriage.
	I didn't understand what you said when you mentioned that uh women um, the way man operates and it is okay for the woman to accept that he's uh cheating, I don't think she should accept.
	No, that's not what I said.
	I said when a man cheat, it's not like a woman when she's cheating.
	And if your men cheat on you, not every day, not excessively, but if your man cheated on you one time when he had a travel or something, you don't break marriage kids history, everything just for him cheating one time um I I, and this should be if you're under, I mean if you guys are yeah, exclusive and that's the, that has always been the thing and you go out on a work trip and you literally can't keep it in your pants or like whatever.
	What does it speak for?
	But when you're 45 and you already lived with a man for 10, 20 years and you have kids with him and you you break up with him for one cheating, you're gonna want to get screwed, not him.
	You're the one that you don't have value in the market.
	You already have history.
	You're not gonna go out to the market with two, three kids alone just because he cheated on you.
	You break your whole life.
	In the relationship.
	There should be 100 commitment to each other and that goes for a body soul.
	If you get to that point where you're 45 years old and you want to talk about an open marriage, then by all means I don't believe in open marriage.
	I think it's.
	It's devilish, so you don't.
	So you think it's more devilish than a man going off.
	I'll explain to you Andrew, if you give me the time.
	I will explain, not you.
	No, I understand your position.
	Oh right, I was so so over.
	Uh, to the gal on the left, open marriage is I. I'm sorry, i'm really sorry.
	I just can you tell me your name again.
	Are you talking to me?
	Yes yeah you yeah, you gotta speak in the mic or can't write the mic, or I can't speak in the mic.
	Oh, i'm looking at you.
	Uh, my name is Oxana okay Oxana yes um why okay, s-a-n-a.
	She, she makes, she makes a valid point right, she's asking this question.
	She's saying look, let's say that this guy um, you know he's he's, he's out on the road, you have a big fight right you're, you're in some tooth and nails kind of uh, verbal brawl and um, you know, he meets some chick at the bar and he sleeps with her and he instantly regrets it and he tells you, you know look, i'm sorry, I made this mistake, he comes clean about it.
	You have children with him, things like that.
	You're saying you can't work through that, that that's impossible to work through.
	Uh, for me it would be, for me personally, I know, for you, but you're you, you said prescriptively you disagree that that should ever be the case in a marriage, right?
	So you see, that was my mentality.
	I mean, I would be okay with that.
	Uh, 20 something years ago before um, I got here and I saw that there is actually a different way Of building their relationship.
	And through my husband, he introduced me to Jesus Christ.
	So, based on their religion, of course, and the standards.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the cheating is just not, it's one partner.
	No, the church would not recommend that.
	The church would recommend that you stay together with your family and did everything you could to work through on the marriage.
	The church would not recommend divorce.
	The church also recommends to stay loyal to your partner for both sides.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	I understand.
	That is true.
	Cheating is immoral from the Christian worldview.
	There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Hang on.
	I agree that that's completely immoral.
	However, there's nothing unchristian at all about working through that situation with your spouse if it occurs.
	In fact, most churches would recommend you do so for the sake of keeping your family together.
	But you see, that's where we come starting from the root.
	It would not even cross our mind to cheat on each other to begin with, because we know that this is what is absolutely bar.
	You're a Christian, correct?
	I am.
	And I'm learning more.
	So you believe that the demonic exists, correct?
	Of course.
	And do you believe that the demonic has influence over people at certain times, especially when they're vulnerable or when they're going through something that's very hard and they could be influenced to do things they would not ordinarily?
	Andrew, it would be my job as a wife to know that my husband needs some kind of support, whether it is emotional or physical or whatever.
	And the true core of the relationship, in my mind, is for my husband to come to me and open up his soul, become vulnerable, feeling comfortable, become vulnerable with me to share with me what ain't working for him.
	So we would be able to work on it, to fix it.
	Sorry, to avoid any type of cheating.
	I think that everyone is capable of cheating.
	Everyone is capable of cheating.
	If you are super committed to your man, so you're completely immune to wait.
	So you're Christian.
	Andrew, Andrew, Andrew, Andrew, let her finish the demonic.
	Hold on, let her finish.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Sorry.
	Yeah.
	Again, everyone is capable of cheating.
	I think that if you are going into it with this is the person that I want to spend the rest of my life with, this is the person that I want to be loyal to, then you will never put yourself in a position where there is the potential to cheat.
	I think we are all, again, capable of doing so.
	You just have to know what you got to choose the environment.
	You have to choose the environment.
	Not just.
	We're all capable of disease.
	This is not the dispute.
	Not just that we give you.
	The dispute is not that you can't mitigate these things.
	The dispute is not that you shouldn't do these things.
	That's not the dispute.
	And then I think it's not the dispute.
	Hang on.
	Can you tell me what the dispute is here, actually?
	What are we actually?
	I would not be even considering the alternative.
	Not you, not you.
	Hang on.
	Listen to the galaxy just talking to you.
	What are we actually arguing about here?
	So working it out right after a man has cheated on you.
	Right, right.
	So when we're talking about things that you can do so that that never happens, that really doesn't have anything to do with the actual dispute here, which is can a marriage be worked out after cheating?
	That's what the dispute is.
	Okay, and then on, I just wanted to mention that about the cheating, but then to go on that, I think it's definitely just situational.
	If for some woman, in my case, the trust would be completely broken.
	And I don't think I could ever do that.
	I don't think I could ever go back.
	But I am with no kids, with, you know, so I would understand.
	Yeah, I would understand if a woman who had kids chose to maybe go to marriage counseling, see a therapist together and work it out.
	But again, I think it's very situational.
	I think there isn't just a totally right.
	You can't just kind of speak for once I know I would never go back to my person if they cheated on me because again, everything is situational.
	Yeah, look, I don't think that there's a problem with saying I have a zero tolerance threshold for cheating and that's the end of the relationship.
	I think that that's fine.
	In fact, I would encourage it even.
	I'm just saying that I would not take this kind of broad brush from a Christian angle and say that if you're in a Christian marriage, that something like this can't be worked through because clearly this does happen and people do work through it.
	It can be in a small percentage of cases.
	Yeah, but there has to be something that if the preference is breaking up the entire family, losing your faith, everything in between that can come with the outcome of divorce, maybe it could be preferable to try to work these things out first.
	In the small percentages, it is possible to fix.
	Andrew, go ahead, go ahead.
	But it takes really such a superb woman to develop, to gain that trust factor towards her man.
	Because that normally creates insecurities in the woman that she will be always questioning, like, he's going to a gym.
	Is he going to see some pretty girls out there?
	He's, I mean, it is just going to be just killing the woman on the inside.
	It takes very, very superb woman to get the trust built inside of her to trust her, you know, to trust her man.
	But women in general are over-emotional from every little thing they make a big deal.
	It's not like a man that manages feelings differently.
	Do you understand?
	Women, a man can look at a woman and she come home with him and she give him a scene and freak out over this.
	Well, you know, a woman who is, yeah.
	Andrew, should we, on the just going back to the marriage thing, I don't know if you'd be able to wrangle this.
	Should we get James Sexton to do a call-in right now?
	That could be interesting.
	I don't know if that could be arranged, but like a 20 minutes.
	You want me to ask him?
	Like a 20-minute call-in.
	Yeah, I can ask him if you'll call in.
	It could be interesting because a couple people in the chat and I got some messages.
	People were like, yo, you should have James Sexton come in on this.
	If not, yeah, I'll give him a text.
	That could be interesting.
	Let me read some chats while we're doing all that.
	So hold on, we have Maddie.
	I'm going to have you read chats.
	Okay.
	What do you personally bring to a relationship as a woman?
	And in your opinion, what responsibility should women typically have in a relationship?
	We can only do one.
	We can only do one question per chat, but solo, Dino, thank you.
	So we'll do what do you personally bring to a relationship?
	Emotional openness and humility.
	I like to open myself up.
	Oh.
	I didn't hear what you said.
	Oh, sorry.
	Emotional openness and humility.
	I like to open myself up to the partners that I have.
	I don't think I'm ready for a relationship.
	So yeah, I don't know how I would honestly answer that right now.
	Honestly.
	I would say.
	Wait, hold on.
	You said you're not, hold on.
	You said you're not ready for a relationship?
	Yeah.
	Wait, I thought earlier you said you were like looking.
	I'm single.
	Plain simple, single.
	Wait, but yeah, Matt.
	Earlier, wait, I'm pretty sure you said you were like the type of people around you aren't going for what you're going for.
	So you're looking for something special and you couldn't find it because it is either on this side or something.
	Maybe I can't find it because I'm not ready for it.
	But even, I guess, like maybe that's a little contradicting.
	Sorry.
	If you were in a relationship, what would you bring?
	If I was in a relationship, I would bring stability just because I'm very much like.
	Hold on.
	You bring stability.
	Yeah.
	You said that you can only date men for two weeks.
	If I choose, I've never said date a guy for two weeks.
	Fun fact, I'm only, I never choose to go in with that guy like I'm dating him or anything.
	I'm just testing out the waters.
	And if I vibe with that person, then I vibe with that person and I'll let them.
	You only vibe for two weeks.
	It's not as literal as what I'm saying, but I feel like it's very much a one-and-done situation in the places and the scenes that I seem to be in right now.
	I don't think that I'm ready for something just because, I don't know, I guess.
	Well, how, I mean, if you bring stability, but you're not going into a relationship with the goal of being stable, aka like long-term or right.
	I'm a very, if I see something with someone long term, I'm going to go all for it.
	And I put my all into something.
	I overgive.
	But you said you're not ready.
	Right.
	And I'm self-aware that when I give, I give way too much.
	And I don't think that I'm ready for that right now.
	I think that I'm 21 years old and I'm finding myself.
	And that's completely fine to.
	When you say finding yourself, do you mean?
	Yeah, what does finding yourself mean?
	Figuring out what hobbies I have, what interests I have.
	What would that have to do with your dating?
	I think the subtext of what she's trying to say, she doesn't even know.
	Maddie Scooter Mike.
	But the subtext of what you're saying, I think you just don't know it because you're too young.
	But I think you don't even know who you are yet and you don't know how to.
	What does it mean to know?
	I'll explain.
	I'll explain.
	Your inner conversation in this age versus my age.
	It's confusing.
	It's not complete.
	She doesn't even understand herself.
	She would do things out of impulse, out of feelings, versus of her logic mind.
	Yeah, like there's some guarantee that that's going to change with age.
	Come on.
	Do you think that, do you think that, you know, I hear this, hang on, I hear this a lot from women, where they will say, well, you know, she's only 21, but a lot of times her nature doesn't change by the time they're 42, right?
	You double the average.
	And a lot of times, well, they don't get more logical.
	They never find yourself thing, right?
	I think it's a practice over an age thing.
	So I think if you're able to practice a true interpersonal relationship with yourself and converse with yourself either through therapy or entirely one-to-one with yourself, you can develop yourself and mature yourself and from there become a greater version of yourself or you mean self-actualizing.
	Self-actualization also just self-actualization.
	More so just the journey of intentionally working.
	It's all about the journey.
	But Andrew, the journey is for everybody.
	Explain to me why every woman on planet Earth has a journey for everything.
	I'm on my scrapbook journey.
	I'm on my go across the country.
	Everything's a fucking journey.
	Why is everything a journey?
	Because you're not a wayfarer.
	You're not on a fucking journey.
	What Brian's asking here is he's saying, when you're talking about the idea of I have to find myself, what the f does that actually mean?
	I have to find myself.
	I don't know what that means.
	I'm just holding space for myself right now.
	And that's all I can do at this moment.
	And when I get into a relationship with someone, like I said, I overgive.
	And I don't want to do that because in the past, I found myself in relationships where I have completely lost myself.
	And that's what you're trying to find.
	How to stay true to yourself and not being taken advantage of.
	It's stabilizing your own.
	And, you know, giving, it is a great thing.
	And it will pay off.
	Seriously, it will.
	It will.
	You are.
	Listen, you only keep giving.
	But save your body for the special one, but keep giving.
	Such a beautiful soul.
	She's only 21.
	She didn't go through enough things in her life, and even if she did, she didn't know how to deal with them because she didn't have to do the experience.
	And you have to remember one sentence: you only live life forward and you understand them backwards.
	So, whatever you do now, it's going to affect your future.
	So, just think about it a lot.
	100%.
	Thank you.
	You're welcome.
	Okay.
	I forgot the question.
	I think we were like, What do I bring to a relationship?
	I got a fat ass.
	That's what I'm doing.
	I'm just trying to break the I would say I bring like communication and understanding.
	Like, I want to put myself in the person's shoes when we're having an argument.
	And respect, like mutual respect, is really important.
	I feel like I like to definitely take care of my man.
	I feel like I bring a nurturing kind of aspect to it, but then I also try to look for someone who will kind of inspire me to be a better person.
	So, I hope that you want like an inspirational partner, a team player, someone that's supportive of or just yeah, supportive team player.
	This is all very different from the word she used, which is inspiration.
	Yeah, you want to feel inspired, inspired, as in, damn, this person really has all their ducks lined up in a row.
	Um, no, so or uh, again, it would depend.
	Yeah, no, no, I definitely don't.
	I don't have all my ducks.
	So, what would the, I mean, how would a guy have all his ducks in a row?
	Again, it's very situational.
	I'd look for someone to, yeah, inspire me.
	Like, it's hard to get that.
	Like, it like just pushing me to do better.
	Jim is one of those things.
	He's grinding, he's hitting the gym every single day.
	I'm like, damn, will you?
	Someone else.
	But, yeah, just someone who will inspire me to just be a little better, do a little better.
	Someone to build with.
	Someone to build with.
	And again, I'd hope that they saw things in me that also inspired me.
	So, I have a question for you on this.
	So, you said you'd want a guy who, like, he's really heavy into the gym, and that that would get you.
	No, it was just like one of the things that I might be inspired by.
	Dang, this person really takes care of their body like you do.
	Now, I'm going to be more like you'll start going to the gym.
	I go to the gym a few times, but like eating really healthy all the time, it might then inspire me to take more of a, you know, again, very like good habits.
	Yeah, good habits.
	Just someone that has good habits that I might be inspired to also pick up.
	Okay.
	Somewhere interesting.
	Me?
	I don't know if I necessarily bring something different or special or better than any other woman.
	The only thing I want if I have a relationship is to find my king.
	So I would love him and do everything that I can to make him happy.
	And I'm naturally going to fall into the happiness because it makes me happy to make my man happy.
	I thought you said kink at first.
	I thought you said kink.
	I know, king is.
	What's my king?
	King.
	King.
	Yeah.
	I just want to have my king, you know.
	Every, I mean, I did it.
	Not a lot of men in my life.
	I was in a relationship for 12 years, and my husband was my king.
	Unfortunately, I didn't want to get divorced, but it happened.
	I didn't initiate it, though.
	I'm great in the kitchen.
	Me too.
	I bring support to whatever his dreams are.
	Whatever he needs to help make them happen.
	And yeah, pretty much that.
	I definitely try to be a better wife constantly and constantly grow on the way of bringing peace into my husband's life.
	And actually, it is, I mean, it's constant growth, of course.
	But that's something I'm actually teaching my female clients who I'm working with as a matchmaker.
	It is important to know how to bring peace in men's life, and it does require quite a bit of skills and understanding and love.
	The most important men need peace, of course.
	You can read this one, Michaela.
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	All right.
	Thank you for that.
	Okay, so let me get into some of my other pre-show notes.
	So going back to Coco here.
	So you were on our very first episode two years ago, and you told us your story of my first boyfriend ever.
	Yeah, can we hear that story?
	Okay.
	Hold on just a sec.
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	I bring a sense of vibrations and cosmic alignment.
	In our journey together, inspired by celestial orbits and the wisdom of a king, I offer the gift that keeps on giving.
	Which is.
	Oh, it's all about self-actualization, man, and like the interpersonal connection and dynamics, bro.
	You know how it is, dude.
	We got to go on our journey of self-discovery, which usually involves tons of sexually promiscuous activity when you're on that journey.
	I've noticed for a lot of women that...
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	I already know the reasons, but could Andrew please explain to the panel why most women can't engage in hypotheticals without outliners or feelings?
	Panel, please don't interrupt his explanation.
	Before we get to that, Andrew, going back to the previous chat, when I used to be on dating apps, a lot of women would be like, take me on an adventure.
	Take me on a journey.
	Not journey.
	They would say adventure.
	Spiritual awakening.
	Take me on a journey.
	Oh, my God.
	Like, they, oh, I want to go on an adventure.
	Take me on an adventure.
	They put in their prompts on their dating app, Tinder Bumble Hinge.
	And I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, the craziest adventure you've ever been on is in the backseat of a guy's Mazda Miada behind a 7-Eleven.
	Like, that's your adventure.
	Oh, gosh.
	Like.
	Adventure time.
	Are you going to replicate that adventure?
	Would you replicate that adventure?
	I don't understand the question.
	Would you do that all over again for that woman?
	From all those girls.
	Would you do that for her as well?
	Would I go on that adventure with them?
	Of course.
	I'm not big on doing things in the car.
	Yeah, it's not really my thing.
	It's not my preferred venue.
	I have a bed.
	I have a bed.
	I feel like that's a very immature thing to do, just like hook up in a car.
	Yeah.
	Andrew, do you want to explain this whole hypothetical one?
	Well, not every woman has trouble engaging in hypotheticals.
	Many of them do.
	And it's just, this is a seeming, right?
	I can't demonstrate this.
	And it's not like sociologists who are mostly women are ever going to do studies about it without kissing women's asses.
	But it seems to me that what I see is that women will take what you say in a hypothetical and immediately apply it to them.
	Let me give you an example.
	Okay.
	I say, most women like tall men.
	You go, but I don't like tall men.
	Well, what the fuck does that have to do with the fact that most women do?
	That's the problem.
	And many of you, when I said that, actually probably thought, well, but I don't care about tall men.
	That's why women have trouble engaging in hypotheticals.
	They take it back to self.
	What do I think?
	What is it that I think?
	What about me, though?
	Me, me, And we're not really talking about you.
	We're talking in a general sense about something that could potentially be true, but women have trouble inserting themselves outside of a potential.
	So, so essentially, everything has to exist inside of the space of me, and nothing can exist inside of the space of a potential.
	That's not you, right?
	So, everything that's potential has to include you.
	Now, I don't mean you, specifically, you, I'm just saying women, right, in general.
	That's why that's why I think that that occurs.
	We have a chat here from Tim.
	I'm a single parent, and dating feels so complicated.
	How can I find someone who will be kind and caring towards me and my son?
	Aww.
	Well, you might have success dating another single parent.
	True.
	That could be an option.
	I would not recommend you to go with a woman that doesn't have kids because she simply wants to understand what you're going through, and she wants to have compassion for your kid, like a woman that already has a kid or two.
	I would recommend going out in public with your son, actually, to like places that you enjoy, whether it be the playground, his favorite playground, whether it be the beach, like hobbies that you genuinely enjoy, because you'll find the right person there who enjoys the same things that you enjoy.
	And I think that's a huge part of life.
	All right.
	So, going back to your story, if you want to tell it.
	Sure, why not?
	What do I have to lose?
	So, I was in a relationship with a guy who I no longer talk to, and we were dating.
	I don't consider it like really dating because we were young, but it was for three years.
	It was like my first love.
	I don't think I've really ever been in love, but I just say that.
	And after we were together for three years, like huge emotional thing.
	Like, I was young, I thought he was my best friend, whatever.
	And then, the minute that he got what most men want, he left me the week after.
	What did he get?
	Sex.
	What all men really want?
	Wait, how long was that time period?
	Well, I don't know.
	How long you gave him sex for after how long you gave him sex?
	Yeah, well, we were young.
	We were kids.
	It took like oh, a week after we did it.
	He broke up with me.
	Don't give the cookie for a few months.
	How long did you know him before you started?
	How long did I know him kindergarten?
	Okay, so you did have a long background.
	Yeah, that's just an unfortunate situation.
	Yeah, that's just unfortunate.
	You know, sometimes that's just stuff just happens, you know.
	Yeah, it's all part of the journey.
	No, that's not what I said.
	Not even close.
	No, just sometimes people do stuff like that.
	You just have to life is not perfect, and people just do stuff, and you just have to sometimes be in pain and move on, and it just sucks, but that's the reality.
	Oh, I've moved on.
	Yeah.
	Don't get me wrong.
	Right.
	I mean, we asked you to bring it up.
	Yeah, no, but it's better not to have.
	That's why it's better not to have sex early, you know?
	Yeah, she waited a few years.
	She was saying.
	Yeah, I waited three years.
	For him?
	For him.
	He waited for me.
	Oh, I thought you said that.
	It was on my terms.
	I'm the one with the coochie.
	Period.
	Oh my gosh, it's awesome.
	Wait, it's okay.
	You were dating him for three years, if I recall.
	So, he went on the journey.
	He went on the long journey, the long, arduous journey to finally get in your pants.
	And then when he finally did, he completed his quest, right?
	And he got out of the king's castle.
	He slayed the dragon and he had the treasure, the booty, right?
	He took it with him.
	Period.
	And then he dumped you?
	He didn't take the booty with him.
	He left the booty.
	He left the booty.
	Well, no, no, no.
	He took the most valuable type of booty possible, right?
	That's really sweet of you to say.
	Took the car.
	Most valuable.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	But did you learn from that experience?
	So he got the treasure, and so it was really about his journey, right?
	That was him just saying.
	I took his treasure, too.
	He was self-actually.
	He was like, leave the guy alone.
	He was, you know, he's self-actualizing out here.
	I don't judge him.
	We were kids.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But did you learn from that experience what not to do next time?
	Sure.
	What did you learn?
	I'm curious.
	Not to wait three years.
	Yeah, not to wait three years.
	Not what?
	Not what?
	Sorry.
	I mean, I've learned a lot of things since then.
	I can't just say one thing that I've learned, but...
	No, from that specific experience.
	From that specific experience, I don't know.
	I mean, nothing happens.
	The lesson is not to have sex at all until you're in a really committed relationship.
	Hold on.
	She's repeated herself two or three times.
	She was dating him for three years.
	But she said after a week.
	Didn't you tell me?
	After a week, after that, as a child who had just lost the most valuable booty, he left me.
	Sorry, I didn't understand.
	I thought you said after a week that you met with me.
	We need a pirate song on the stream deck here.
	Rip.
	Yo, RIP's in the chat for Coco.
	That's pretty short.
	It's my lore.
	Shitty situation.
	We need a shanty.
	We need like a ship shanty to play right now.
	I'm waiting.
	I don't know.
	What's like the typical pirate theme?
	I can just think of it.
	No, Wait, that's the first time.
	I just think of the Caribbean.
	That is the shit.
	Pirates of the Caribbean is my shit.
	Dumped her after having sex.
	You can harm it out.
	They were together for three years.
	For sure.
	We're going to start a band.
	He's like, hey, the V-card.
	Then he dumped her.
	Then he ran out of the age.
	That's what I learned from that relationship.
	Panting, that's crazy.
	We can make it into a banger song.
	Now, Daniel, have you taught, like, okay, he broke up with you?
	Did he, like, as far as the breakup goes, was it like a ghost or was there a sit down?
	It was a little messy.
	We definitely, like, I tried to talk to him after the fact and like went over to his house and like he had his like best friend there and it was like that middle school or high school drama and you know, it was like uh yeah, I don't think we're gonna get back together but like, thanks for coming by.
	You know he broke your virginity.
	Can I ask, yeah oh, my god broke it.
	We say he took that's an interesting word and he dismantled okay, but you know, behind every action there is always a reason, the reason.
	Yeah, there is a root.
	I don't doubt that.
	Uh, so to understand the root, where this is actually coming from, he could have been gay.
	That also.
	He probably found out, maybe some self-actualization right there he found out.
	I mean, he's been with women since.
	Maybe he's like yeah, there's some self-actualization, all right no, he could have just been just a player.
	He could have just been like actually, he's just a player.
	He like it's not you guys.
	I think you guys are being women in the sense where you're overanalyzing it.
	Yeah, it's not that, it's not that he got it and he lost it.
	No no no, I agree with you.
	I'm not sure that there's any overanalyzation at all.
	I don't think.
	What you're experiencing is self-deconstructualization instead of self-actualization.
	Hold on, so hold on you boom.
	You claim that he's a player.
	How often you, but you guys were dating for three years, so like serious relationship.
	How long were you guys?
	I don't think we were old enough to be serious.
	No, but how often would you guys see each other and hang out?
	Oh, God, like multiple times a week, like almost every day at school, like weekends.
	We would spend hours together, like days.
	Was he involved with other women?
	No.
	Okay, so how do you think about that?
	He was like the most shy kid I'd ever known.
	I'm sorry, he's not a player then.
	No, but I made him into one, probably.
	So it's important to see what he's doing.
	No, but a player doesn't.
	Like a player isn't waiting three years for pussy.
	Until he gets to play.
	But maybe in the background, maybe when he was.
	When he's 15, he does.
	Right?
	I'm sorry.
	No.
	Until maybe he was a player, but then maybe I gave him the confidence.
	He maybe wasn't afraid of the colours.
	Maybe I gave him the confidence to literally go out and get it.
	Cope.
	I'm sorry, it's Cope.
	I like it.
	It's Coke.
	It's definitely Cope.
	What if he got really scared that he maybe hurts you?
	Plasma ball.
	Like, hurt her pussy?
	Oh, it was too small to do that.
	Oh, my God.
	You know, that she was describing the message.
	She hurt the pussy.
	Oh, my God.
	I thought you said it.
	You said you were more of blood than women of things.
	That's why we are given the childbirth, not to you guys.
	Exactly.
	That is exactly what he was worried about.
	I think the pain that he caused.
	I think he was the worst because he was too bad.
	Oh my god, you love saying that.
	And he is a very deep person.
	Maybe he was.
	He was like, oh, my God, I heard this precious thing.
	Was it like a tree trunk?
	I think he went too deep.
	He said it's small.
	It was small.
	So it wasn't.
	He didn't hurt the pussy, but he hurt something.
	I don't know.
	Give us his name.
	Well, I mean, I guess it did hurt because it's your first time.
	It's going to hurt.
	Okay.
	Wait, so hold on.
	Hold on.
	Okay.
	Questions?
	You went over to have the breakup conversation.
	His friend was there.
	What was the content of the breakup conversation?
	Probably just like a lot of tears.
	And like, did this happen?
	Did that happen?
	Like, I don't know.
	Just like a lot of things that I feel like were just brushed under the rug or something.
	Like in past, like, I feel like when you break up with someone, like, you sort of bring up other things.
	Oh, all the other shit.
	Yeah, like, it's been, it was years that we were together, so it makes sense.
	Wait, who kind of was like, was he pushing to have sex?
	Or was it you?
	No, I actually don't even remember.
	It was like prom, like one of these.
	No, it was just like random Tuesday.
	Low-key.
	Yeah, and they're like...
	Or, well, random Tuesday.
	His friends were literally there.
	While you guys fucked up?
	Wait, hold on.
	Hold on.
	In the room?
	No, no, in the room.
	Not in the bedroom.
	Wait, wait.
	Wait, hey, what did I miss?
	So it happened in his aunt's bedroom.
	Oh, my God.
	And his friends were just outside of the room.
	What?
	It sounds like a radical wedding.
	I don't know what they were doing.
	They were outside the room.
	Oh.
	Maybe he announces that he's going to take your virtual.
	I mean, y'all are weird.
	If y'all are watching this show.
	Was it like a party?
	No.
	It's your story.
	How could they be the weird ones?
	Two friends outside that were his guy friends.
	So why did you consent to have sex when people were waiting outside?
	Like it's a show.
	It's not a sexy.
	Clearly that says something about my style, honey.
	It's like they're waiting to be next in line.
	Like, what is this?
	I'm pretty certain that the Rizanova breakup was not just because he got what he was working for for three years.
	I mean, that is a lot of fun.
	Least before I break up with her, I should try to.
	There you go.
	I think, I actually think she's onto something.
	Maybe he thought about it, like, not in a surprising way.
	Like, I think you're on to something.
	Yeah, so all of this stuff that was the poor guy best did three years, right?
	He's not leaving.
	He's like, I'm not even getting out getting you.
	Him and his friends were waiting.
	Imagine.
	How long did it last?
	Two seconds.
	A minute or less?
	Probably.
	Damn, three years.
	That's a lot of time for buildup.
	That's a lot of.
	She's waiting for the steak.
	She got the bagel.
	Did he use a condom?
	Yes.
	Oh, God.
	One minute of condom sex.
	Did it fit?
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, my God.
	I remember him.
	I remember him not being able to put it on correctly or had it inside out or something.
	It was too small.
	Yeah.
	Like, oh my god, no, it took longer than the sex to get the condom on.
	There's no way he's a player.
	It took so long.
	I will never forget that fucking condom.
	Seriously.
	She.
	Oh, my God.
	This feels good.
	Andrew feels great.
	Damn, that's crazy.
	You got your therapy today.
	Fuckboy, probably.
	So honestly, I think it's more an L.
	It's a race, and he finished first.
	You know, you give him this guy like this.
	I think it's a race and he's like, it's more an L for him.
	It's more an L for him.
	Oh my god, this is great.
	He put in three years of work.
	Three years of work for one minute of virgin condom sex.
	That's what he said.
	He's the race that he finished first.
	I'm sorry.
	Maybe he was really embarrassing.
	Really, I'm just.
	Anyway.
	I'm not saying you did anything wrong.
	I'm just like, this guy's a lot of time.
	He got busted.
	That's a lot of time.
	He got busted.
	For one minute.
	Imagine how desperate.
	Barriered pussy.
	The pussy was.
	Well, there's a barrier.
	There's a barrier.
	But how is he supposed to know the difference of the feeling if he's a virgin and never had sex before?
	Exactly.
	Doesn't matter.
	Still.
	You're just supposed to know.
	You're just supposed to know.
	All right.
	Any more questions?
	Yeah.
	So tell us how you really feel.
	About what?
	No, it's okay.
	We're joking.
	Wait, it's okay.
	So, have you had communications with him further?
	There was the initial breakup conversation, but did it ever, like, I'm sure grinded your gears.
	Like, why?
	What's the reason?
	Like, you know?
	Like, why do I think this?
	Do you ever get closure from this or not really?
	Not in the way that I deserved, no.
	After a while, you just get over it.
	And he was too scared to show the real what's going on in his heart.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I guess I sort of just gave him the benefit of the doubt because he was just like a really shy kid.
	And I was like, you know what?
	Like, I can't force him to speak about stuff that he doesn't want to talk about at the end of the day.
	Do you feel that you maybe emasculated him in some way?
	Just kidding.
	We made it to a therapy session.
	Shit.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Interesting, definitely interesting.
	I think the lesson here is there is no lesson.
	That's just terrible.
	There's no, everything's awful.
	Everything's awful.
	There is no lesson to be learned.
	People are terrible.
	Good times.
	But I do think he took the bigger L than you.
	You finished the race first.
	Shouldn't be a competition, but.
	Like, I guess it would have been like.
	Is it?
	Would it, would it have been worse if you guys had only been dating for like two weeks and then he takes your virginity?
	Or is it worse that it was like a three year?
	Like what would have been worse that it was a three year?
	As a woman, because you get attached very easily yeah, and it's like two weeks of being attached is not at all near the same as being attached for three years.
	Yeah okay, good times now.
	Last time we had talked, actually you know what.
	I'll come back to some of the notes for you.
	So earlier in the conversation, going back to you, you had mentioned so you, you're studying poverty inequality, social justice.
	That's your minor.
	You also mentioned the word mansplained.
	Yeah.
	So what is mansplaining?
	Honestly, I don't um, oh sorry, into the mic um, so I don't necessarily think it was just the.
	I guess the mansplaining, it was more so just economics.
	A majority of the students that are enrolled in the program are men, so when we went into these clubs we were just it was, typically dominated by males as well.
	And then some of the mansplaining I guess came from, I guess, the finance people, where they kind of would talk to us like we didn't have a clue as to what was going on.
	So, and wait, you're.
	They were finance and your economics business.
	No, it was just like again, the way that they, I don't know, might have, but were they in a different major than you?
	No, it was just, I mean, economics is closely related to finance, so they were, I don't know.
	Again, this is just conversations that were, maybe they were like had a better grasp on I don't know, that you didn't provide enough, maybe I, we just felt as though we weren't in a space where we were feeling as though we were necessarily uplifted.
	What does that mean to be uplifted in a space?
	Uh, I think because a majority uh, were men.
	We just felt like we were looked down upon for being women in this space.
	You felt like you were looked down upon because you were women.
	So what I mean?
	Can you articulate something that actually occurred that would lead you to believe that was the case?
	Um honestly no, I can't.
	I can't say honestly, so you just felt it.
	No, I want to go back to the.
	It was wanting to just be in a collaborative space with other women.
	The department here at UCSB makes it very much.
	You want the person next to you failing so that they don't mess up the class curve.
	So it was just a lot of I don't know, I guess, competition and there wasn't really a space in which we felt as though we are wanting to or I don't know, there's no really like I want you to thrive as well.
	It was a I don't want you to do well on this exam or because you might mess up the curve.
	It was just, it was just a lot of competitive.
	Did you receive that competition from women?
	When it was in a space with women, it was more so of a collaborative environment.
	Whereas when we were with them, we felt like we couldn't really collaborate.
	It wasn't necessarily the mansplaining, honestly.
	So I want to take that back.
	It wasn't necessarily the man spinning so much, as they weren't really talking to us at all.
	Kind of pushed us to the side.
	That's well, but so had they been in this, it was a club, right?
	You said it was a group or a club?
	A school club.
	Had they been in, had you guys new to the club?
	Yes.
	So they had already been this club had been pre-existing?
	I don't know.
	Some had you there at the date of the formation of the club?
	No.
	Okay, and was the club were there, was it pre-dominated by men?
	Yes.
	And they had, how long had the club been going on?
	Probably a decade.
	Okay.
	So how many times did you go to the club meetings?
	Probably myself, like four.
	Four times.
	Okay.
	How often would they meet?
	At least once every other week?
	So two times a month?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Well, and at least there's like other like and you did did you start going like at the beginning of the year or like midway into the semester?
	At the beginning of the year.
	Beginning of the year.
	But the people already knew each other in the club.
	Some did, some didn't.
	Some didn't.
	But you felt you were excluded, if I understand correctly?
	I don't want to necessarily say I did.
	It was just, I co-founded it, so I didn't start it myself.
	It was just a.
	Hold on.
	There was an original club that was open to both men and women.
	But then you weren't satisfied.
	You felt like.
	Eula sees the pagan donated $200.
	Mansplain isn't a thing.
	All people do it to other people.
	I've been watching this podcast for months and many times seen women on the panel do it.
	I think what she means is it's not just a man thing.
	Yo, Yulis, the pagan.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	I honestly also think that it was just the club itself was again accounting and finance, and there's an accounting and economics major, and those were most of the students.
	And then there's just economics.
	Oh, so they did have a different discipline?
	Yes.
	Okay, and you felt that they were mansplaining.
	No, sorry, I take that back.
	Okay, you take that back.
	It was just more necessarily again a different discipline.
	I want to go back on that.
	But you said you felt as if you were excluded because, or like not involved as much.
	Because I couldn't necessarily be because that wasn't my discipline.
	So that's.
	But you made it seem, but you went on to co-found a women in business club for women.
	It sounds to me like you're saying that you felt like they were not giving you enough attention or involvement in the club because you were women.
	Do I have that right?
	Yes.
	Okay, so a majority of the people in the club, though, as well, were men.
	There were very few women in the club.
	Sure.
	But so I mean could it just be that you were newcomers to the club and that's why you weren't as involved as like why how do you come to the conclusion that it was because you were women and not because you were just newcomers?
	I don't want to say that it was because I was a woman But isn't that what you were getting at?
	If that was what it sounded like I was getting you walked back the man splaining claim But then you also said that well I don't want to put words in your mouth Yeah, so what I again wanted to say or what I've mentioned before it was a different discipline.
	It was a club dominated by males so we felt as though we couldn't really not necessarily interact with them But it was just it was just different.
	We wanted to interact with other women as well.
	We wanted to meet other women as well who had maybe similar interests that weren't geared so much towards finance and only finance.
	And did this mostly male club continue to exist after you started your club?
	Yes.
	Okay, and they existed independent from your club?
	Yeah, they're independent.
	We collaborate with them as well.
	So we have, yeah, we have things with them as well, kind of to do some of that mixing as well.
	Guys could say.
	And would you have been upset at all if they had had a men's only space that was just for them?
	No.
	No?
	Okay.
	Okay, so walking back the mansplaining thing then.
	What?
	Oh, I mean, you said you used the wrong word or something, so you're walking back the, I guess the mansplaining accusation or whatever?
	It was more so just, again, wasn't really a collaborative space with women.
	It was just a ton of men.
	And when you're in a field, I don't know, dominated particularly by men, we wanted to meet other girls, other girlies that had similar interests to us in the economic department, but not only in the economic department.
	Wanted to bring in other girls as well from various departments.
	The TMP program, again, it was just very much wanting a collaborative area where we could bring different fields and not just accounting and finance.
	Get a bigger scope, I guess, if that makes sense.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I was just curious about that.
	I am also a little bit curious about the whole poverty inequality social justice minor.
	Is that does that involve like any, like, actually just going around the table, who here considers themselves a feminist?
	Very partial feminist.
	Partial feminist?
	Not that, I guess.
	What do you mean?
	I'm not for which way or another.
	I don't know.
	You're just kind of neutral on it, I guess.
	Like, what would your exact definition be of that then?
	Well, yeah, people do have different definitions.
	Yeah, because I definitely would be on the partial side with the different waves of feminism.
	And I think it was also mentioned maybe by you and how women have kind of.
	There's the radical and then there's the different waves and all these things.
	So if you have the woo if you could just briefly kind of explain when you're talking about, because I hear this a lot, I don't like this wave versus this wave.
	What is it about fourth wave feminist or third wave feminism you don't like, but you do like first or second wave feminism?
	Can I explain it?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	No, not you.
	You'd be woman's play.
	I'm asking her.
	She made it.
	Oh, sorry, sorry.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Are you telling me?
	Yeah.
	So particularly, I don't know, more recently with issues concerning LGBTQ rights, there's just some things that I don't necessarily agree with as far as them being able to participate in sports with us and compete against us, which I think is something that the...
	So you're kind of on the turf side?
	On the, what do you mean the turf side?
	TERF, yeah, trans-exclusionary, radical feminist.
	Not a radical.
	Well, I mean, that's what it is.
	If you believe in all of the things about feminism that you like, except this one thing, which is that you believe that the Ts are going into sports, right?
	Then that would be considered trans-exclusionary radical feminism or TERF for short.
	Let's just say not radicalism.
	Let's just say TEF then.
	I think it's exclusionary feminism.
	It's changed.
	I think before is more of, again, wanting the ability to vote, wanting the ability to, I mean, for a really long time, women couldn't work in certain industries as well.
	Yeah, but I don't understand what the problem is.
	If you want the right for women to vote and then women vote so that men can go into women's sports, what's your actual objection to that?
	Wait, say it again?
	Sorry.
	So if women are demanding the right to vote and they get it and then they vote so that men can go into women's sports, what's your objection to that?
	I mean, I think we've now voted as well that men can't.
	Yeah, but if they did vote that men can, what would be your objection to that?
	I couldn't really have.
	Yeah, you couldn't have one, right?
	Yeah.
	So then as long as women who are thus far, they have not voted against that, they voted for it.
	Everywhere it's been tried, they're not exclusionary in that sense.
	They vote for it far more than men do, in fact, to allow that particular group to come into women's sports.
	But isn't that really kind of the fault of women then?
	Isn't that women who got the right to vote then voting to allow this to happen?
	seems like you're kind of your own worst enemy there um i yeah i mean give a yeah give a point I can't argue with you there.
	I mean, but again, it's also men coming into spaces and wanting to compete with women as well.
	So it's also just.
	So what?
	You voted for it.
	Right?
	It's like, imagine saying, I want the right to vote.
	And then you get it.
	And then you vote to allow men in sports and you go, I don't want men in sports.
	Like that, that makes no sense.
	It's irrational to me.
	I'm not saying you personally.
	I'm just saying that if you vote that the collective of women can vote and that's what they vote for, isn't that kind of just what the doctor ordered?
	Yeah, but then the counter to that would then again be what?
	We shouldn't have the ability to vote.
	Well, I think you said it, not me.
	I mean, that might be a conclusion that I would come to if women suddenly demanded the right to vote and then voted that men could go in their sports and hated the fact that men could go in their sports.
	Seemed like a lot of people, though.
	We haven't voted that woman can and can't, have we?
	No, no, no.
	They mostly just vote that they can.
	Okay, so you're more so, it's a hypothetical, like if they...
	No, no, no.
	They mostly vote that men can engage in their sports teams.
	Yeah.
	They mostly, and by the way, most of the pro like prize technologies.
	Yeah, and then that would be the, I guess, the feminist feminists.
	I have a question, too.
	Extreme feminists.
	I didn't understand.
	Sure.
	I want to understand what you said.
	I didn't understand what you said.
	Women voted that men can compete as women.
	Can what?
	Can compete as women.
	Oh, my God.
	Really?
	Oh, my God.
	No.
	Therefore, that is something that women have voted for.
	So it's a real man going and pretending to be a person.
	Basically, it's an insult to me, honestly.
	Can I say something small on that?
	As a woman, this type of feminism, it's not feminism.
	It's literally women jeopardizing themselves because it's an insult to me as the woman that I have to go through, period, through babies, through my whole life as struggle as a woman, that a guy would come and pretend to be a woman.
	So I pretend to be 20.
	I can pretend to be 20.
	What's the difference?
	So, again, maybe not the right to vote if you want to turn it into that, but the ability to work, the ability to go into different industries, that has definitely changed over the course of this.
	But they're not missing.
	Yeah, so like, so hang on, so backing up, I just want to ask you just a couple more questions.
	Do you think that women vote more on the Republican or Democrat side?
	Democrats.
	Not you, not you.
	Hang on.
	Mainly the Democratic side, I would say.
	Democratic side.
	And do you think that Republicans or Democrats pass policies more often that protect women's sports?
	Republicans.
	Republicans.
	And so essentially, we have established then that women are voting in the party that does not protect women's sports, right?
	So it seems that by your logic, I don't identify with the Democratic Party.
	What's that?
	I don't identify with the Republicans.
	I'm not saying that.
	But yeah, I'm not saying you specifically.
	I'm sorry when I say you in this case.
	I'm just saying if most women, right?
	So if the majority of women are voting Democrat, and they are, right?
	The majority of them vote Democrat.
	It's not a huge majority, but it's enough of a majority.
	They vote Democrat.
	It seems like they're the architect of their kind of own destruction here, right?
	No, for sure.
	So we can expect you to vote Republican this time around, right?
	I identify as an independent, but that is like my vote kind of being thrown in the trash.
	So we're going Republican this time?
	Honestly, over Biden, we probably women's in sports thing.
	I mean, he just went by.
	So you're going to have to vote Republican this time, right?
	You have to.
	You have to.
	I mean, I'm, of course, independent.
	Yeah, am I independent?
	Yeah, you're an independent, but you have to vote Republican this time.
	Otherwise, you're just throwing your vote away, right?
	So we can expect you to vote from you for Donald J. Trump this time around to protect your sports teams, right?
	Amen.
	Who's the independent candidate?
	You're moving out of the U.S. Who's the independent candidate?
	He's going to get elected?
	I don't know.
	Really?
	Is RFK?
	Is he independent?
	No, I think he's Democrat.
	He's independent, though.
	I'm just kidding.
	He wasn't.
	Well, obviously, no, he can't be Democrat because he's Biden's the incumbent.
	Regarding this topic, when I get to this country at first and I realized what feminists and all that, like the differences, I was like, what's going on with women?
	They're going against themselves.
	They're like jeopardizing it for themselves.
	I couldn't understand your logic.
	Yeah, and honestly, thinking back to the first wave of feminism, too, Susan B. Anthony, huge people that we like study and praise.
	It wasn't like they were rights for all women.
	They were rights for white women.
	So it wasn't until years later that.
	Well, they were also horrific anti-natalists and scumbags of all kinds, especially Susan B. Anthony.
	Very much anti-man.
	Quote after quote of her.
	This, by the way, is because she was distinctly a hideous woman.
	A hideous woman.
	Oh, my God.
	And oftentimes, this builds resentment in women.
	And many of the early feminists.
	I mean, we have plenty of men on the opposite side, though.
	Yeah, no, on the opposite side, though, there's plenty men.
	What's the, what's the term for it?
	Like involuntary celibacy.
	No one knows the term.
	No, I know.
	Incel.
	Incel.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, there's definitely plenty insuls as well that.
	Wait, actually, are you just, just so I understand?
	And I've got a couple questions on this.
	So are you saying that incels are kind of like the opposite of feminists?
	No, or I just mentioned Susan B. Anthony was but ugly.
	So I was and that that's kind of one of the reasons why.
	Well, no, I did not say that.
	I said she was, and I'll quote myself here, hideous.
	Okay, sorry.
	Sorry.
	She wasn't but ugly.
	She's not how I would describe her.
	There's a step above ugly, and then there's a step above that.
	And the step above that is hideous.
	Like circus freak ugly.
	Can you put a picture of her so I can't?
	I know.
	I know.
	We're not going to do that.
	I'm curious.
	So I stepped away for a moment, but we were just asking if you're a feminist.
	I don't know if we got an answer from you.
	Did we get a definition?
	Well, there's a couple.
	So there's the feminists that think what they're fighting for is equality.
	And then you have the feminists that are in favor of women's advocacy.
	And then you have like one step above, which is like conspiracy theory.
	Well, it's the mainstream feminism, but you have conspiracy theory and then also like man-hating feminism.
	Yeah, definitely not.
	I mean, advocacy for sure.
	Yeah.
	But so then you're not in favor of equality then?
	Well, I don't know what you mean by advocacy.
	Well, so advocacy, so feminism, and here's my position on feminism, being the most charitable.
	It's a woman's advocacy movement, which is fine.
	You can advocate for women, but you shouldn't masquerade it as this, we want equality.
	You don't want equality, not you specifically, but feminists don't actually want equality.
	Because if there was some form of equality that did not stand to benefit women in some way, but it would be a true equality between men and women.
	For example, here's two examples.
	So men are required.
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	But first, we got to get through this conversation on feminism.
	Matt, hope you had a very good stream, man.
	Thank you once again.
	So I think I was getting into the point.
	So the two examples that I could provide here, one would be forced military conscription.
	So we've had over 100 years of women being able to vote.
	The way men, one of the reasons men originally got, and it was a very short period of time that men exclusively had the right to vote and women didn't.
	So men got the right to vote because they had to, they had a corresponding responsibility.
	They got a privilege or right, and it came with a duty and a responsibility.
	That is, you have to go fight for your country if your country tells you.
	Women secured the right to vote without any corresponding responsibility at all.
	You just got a benefit without any corresponding duty or responsibility.
	The second is, oh, wait, shit.
	Hold on, what's the second one?
	I was going to say two.
	The second one is the forced military conscription.
	I'm blinking on it.
	Equality.
	It's evading me.
	In any case.
	Well, on your point that I think, or the question that you're going to ask, which I'm guessing is, do we support then women being drafted in?
	Well, I'll get to that.
	I do remember my second one.
	And an actual, a true equality, a true equality between men and women would be, and I'm not saying this is my position on this.
	I'm not saying I'm in favor of it.
	But an actual true equality between men and women would be, for example, men have zero reproductive rights.
	A true equality between men and women would be to completely walk back any right to an abortion women have.
	True.
	I'm not saying that's my position, but men don't have reproductive rights.
	Women do.
	But you actually can't reproduce.
	Right, but it would be an equality.
	For example, if a man gets a woman pregnant, she wants to keep the kid, and he doesn't.
	It's true.
	Yeah, I think he should be allowed to walk away.
	He can't.
	Not to walk away to also have a decision of the abortion.
	Well, there's that too, but I mean, so men have zero reproductive rights.
	So a woman can get an abortion because she's not financially ready.
	She doesn't want to go through with the pregnancy.
	Let's assume she can go through with a pregnancy, but she's not ready emotionally.
	She's not ready financially, or she just doesn't want one.
	A woman could just get an abortion for no other reason than that she just doesn't want to have the child.
	A guy could hook up with a girl, have a one-night stand, she wants to keep the kid.
	He now has an 18-plus year, potentially plus year, depends on your state, financial responsibility and potentially parental custodial responsibility to a child that he didn't want.
	Exactly.
	But a woman who has a one-night stand, who gets pregnant, who doesn't want the kid, well, she can go through with the pregnancy.
	She can choose to adopt the child out.
	She could terminate the pregnancy.
	She could keep the kid and have this man financially responsible for 18 years of his life.
	So you think men should be able to have some say in whether or not a woman can get an abortion?
	Of course, it's their key.
	He's just offering that as a counter.
	So, well, I mean, so my thing is, in any state where a woman can have an abortion, I think a man should be able to say, well, it's called legal paternal surrender.
	So you would just say, yeah, I don't want to be financially responsible.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I think there should have been a lot of people.
	Yeah, but we can say that.
	But it's honestly, frankly, never going to happen.
	Even in states that are incredibly progressive, incredibly liberal, because liberals and progressives don't care about male issues.
	Yeah.
	Don't care about male issues.
	So it's only about the woman.
	And so, but true equality, if that's what feminists really cared for, it'd be like, well, we can give men this equality that would equalize things, or true equality, we walk back abortion rights completely.
	So that's why it's women's advocacy.
	Right.
	There's also, though, I know, I don't know, or I probably can't explain this, but equity and equality, I think, is what I think.
	So what, I don't know what that means.
	So equality, again, I don't want to compete like with men and have everything, I don't know, yeah, be equal in that sense.
	There's no way.
	You mean equity?
	You're talking equity.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So yeah, that was just not necessarily equality, which I think is the problem.
	That's how that's what is.
	But so I'm a little confused here.
	So are you saying that, well, it's not equality, but it is equity that women currently aren't required to.
	No, I'm saying that the issue with the feminist movement is equality and a push for equality.
	Whereas again, I understand that there are biological differences between men and women.
	I don't want to be, yeah, I can't lift the same as or as heavy as a man would be able to.
	Yeah, just certain things.
	Yeah, so in terms of the two examples I provided, just where does that come in?
	The two examples that you provided with the military.
	Well, so my position is that feminism is not, excuse me, it's not inequality.
	It's not about equality because should there be some form of true equality between men and women that could conceivably come to the detriment of women, feminists will not fight or advocate for achieving said equality.
	Sorry, yeah, no, I was agreeing with your point.
	I was just stating that the issue that I think with them is that, again, it's the push for equality, which I think is unrealistic.
	Yeah.
	Well, so you're, wait, so you're against the push for equality?
	Yes, I'm for equity.
	So, okay, so equity would be what?
	And that's where it's...
	Well, let me ask you a question.
	Does equity justify the current state of men in this country being the sole subjects of forced military conscription?
	That, yeah, I'm on the side where I don't think we should be enlisted, but that's because of all the issues that current women face in the military.
	And the, like, they're subject to a higher percentage of SA.
	A lot of them are subject to a ton of...
	Wait, hold on.
	Let me...
	I just got to come in on this.
	Should women be precluded from going to college, given that feminists often like to purport that the SA rate is sky-high in universities?
	It's a feminist talking point that in universities, I don't agree with their statistics, but they say that.
	I mean, when we're talking about a draft, though, this is like we're choosing to go to university.
	We're not necessarily choosing to go fight in the military.
	So different, yeah, different circumstances.
	You're talking about that.
	Sure, fair enough.
	Okay, you're not compelled to go to university.
	Back to your point, though, so because I don't get that, though.
	Wouldn't that be worse?
	Like, wouldn't that be worse?
	So, okay, you're compelled to go to this place where you potentially could get SA'd versus you choose to go to this place where the stats are way higher for SA?
	Wouldn't it seem like you would still advise women not to go to either place?
	Of course.
	We're talking about education, though, and getting education over fighting a war.
	You're going to get educated in a war.
	Soldiers get educated, and you're going to have access to free education post-war.
	So, I mean, the thing that I don't really understand here, though, is if the argument or if kind of the worldview is the rates of SA are way higher inside of college, right?
	It makes sense, right?
	There's a lot more young women.
	There's a lot more kind of drunkenness going on, things like this.
	Kind of logic.
	I mean, logically, I could see how that could definitely be an issue.
	But if your objection is, well, women shouldn't have to go into a draft because of SA, well, then neither should men because men are far more likely to be SA'd in the military as well, as if they're not in the military.
	So if men aren't in the military, less likely to be SA'd than if they are in the military.
	Men.
	Men, yeah, that's correct.
	Okay.
	Significantly higher, by the way.
	Okay, I'm just not really understanding your question.
	Are you sure?
	Okay, so you're saying, well, it's kind of two points.
	So you're just comparing.
	Yes, I'll make it super easy, right?
	If you're saying women shouldn't go to the draft because their potential to be SA'd is way higher.
	Not necessarily that.
	There's just that, not just that point.
	There's also just the point of physically, again, as well.
	Physically, I think, are not, I think men are definitely better equipped to handle heavier machinery, like do a ton of things that require physical strength.
	I think that if women fought, like, okay, if you got women versus men to fight in a war, who the hell do we think we like would win?
	Men, for sure.
	Men, for sure.
	So it's just a, it's just more of a, I don't know how much we'd help necessarily.
	So then what additional benefit do men receive?
	Like, I don't know how much I don't know what this could do.
	Listen, listen, I totally agree with this point, but it just kind of makes me want to ask, though, what additional benefit then should men receive from the state, considering the fact that you only want them to go and fight wars on behalf of you?
	But can I put something all the way to the menu?
	All wars are started by men.
	That you're not entitled to is my question.
	Sorry again.
	Well, if you want men to go fight wars to protect you, what should they be entitled to that you're not entitled to?
	What is it?
	Well, they have a greater responsibility than they have to go fight.
	Okay, so what do you believe them and should be entitled to because they do this?
	You think that our right to vote should be stripped because we don't enter the business?
	And if you can't defend it, then why should you have it?
	If other people have to defend it on behalf of you, then why shouldn't they exclusively have it and you not have it?
	Yeah.
	Can I answer this?
	No.
	No.
	I'm just not really.
	Sorry, I just am not really understanding.
	But okay.
	Yeah, so I'll make it, I'll break it down a little bit.
	Yeah, so I'm just, it just, or I'm getting a, like, because you guys aren't enlisting in the military, you shouldn't have the right to vote.
	Yeah, I mean, even, but let's assume for somebody else.
	Is that your argument?
	Or that sounds like your argument.
	No, It's just the potential for it.
	So all men have to sign up for selective service, all of them, every single one of them.
	And if a bad enough women's issue is not a matter of time.
	Which I don't think should be the case either.
	Hang on.
	Let me finish.
	All men have to sign up for selective service at 18 years old.
	That is the law.
	Now, the thing is, is that if a war got bad enough, they would be able to serve in tons of different capacities other than just fighting on the front lines of whatever said war was.
	Especially if a war was bad enough, they would take them with almost any condition.
	We've seen this before.
	So if that's true, and the potential exists that if a massive war broke out and men are the ones exclusively who are going to fight it, why don't they have additional privileges that the people who aren't able to defend their own rights have?
	That's what they don't understand.
	No, yeah, they should.
	If that was the case, then I think that men should have special privileges over women.
	If it came down to that, if it came down to that, again, this is, yeah, you're pushing.
	It has come down to that many, many times.
	I mean, it's already happened.
	100% should receive special privileges without stripping our right to vote.
	Well, yeah, but I don't understand because you can vote to make them go to war for you.
	That's why it's problematic.
	Who started the war?
	So let me explain what I'm saying.
	Men or women.
	Who's creating these wars, though?
	So men, if women voted to go to war, it would be women.
	Right?
	And I don't think women would vote to go to war.
	Except the problem you have with that is when we take a look at female monarchs, they often went to war far more than the male monarchs did.
	So it turns out that, and by the way, when it comes to warmongering, women often do vote that direction.
	And the thing is, why wouldn't they?
	They don't really have to suffer any of the physical repercussions of it.
	So the idea here is just this.
	It's just to say this.
	Since many, many times already in American history, there's been a general draft instituted, and men have had to go off and fight wars on behalf of their nation, and women have not had to do this because you and I agree they don't have the capacity to do so on average.
	Most women don't have the capacity to go fight with men in a war.
	Then why shouldn't those men, I mean, why shouldn't men in general, since they're all assigned to selective service, have the right to vote because they seem to be able to protect the right and women can't?
	That's the ultimate question.
	I feel like with that logic, you shouldn't be allowed to vote then if you don't go to war.
	Yeah.
	No, no, no.
	You're still signed up for the selective service.
	Wait, wait.
	You're still signed up for the selective service.
	The potential is only there for you to go to war.
	It's never there for women.
	If they choose not to, they never have to.
	There's no potential.
	So your question again is why shouldn't they have special?
	And I'm saying that they should if they definitely should without stripping the right for women to vote.
	Okay, well, then what special privileges should men get in society?
	I don't know.
	Whatever special privileges you think you deserve for.
	Okay, well, I think that women should be able to vote and that every man's vote should be worth double a woman's vote because they're the defenders of the nation.
	But not all.
	You've defended the nation.
	Not all.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait, hang on, hang on.
	Again, I think we're not clear here.
	We're talking about potentials.
	Okay, yeah.
	You and I agree, every single man at the age of 18 must sign up for a draft.
	In my country, hang on, hang on, hang on, just stop.
	Let her finish, please.
	You agree with me that every single man must sign up for a draft, right?
	I just disagree with you in the like, like, okay, like, my vote should be stripped because I don't know.
	I'm not saying, nope, you can have a vote.
	I'm just asking a double conversation.
	Yeah, yeah, okay.
	Forget, well, this was because we're in hypothetical land.
	I'm just asking that men's votes are double what a woman's vote is because they have the burden of being drafted.
	Not all men, I would argue that it'd be the men serving.
	Yeah, but why?
	That means $200.
	So why would it make sense to be a person?
	Because they want to embrace American feminism, or are they more interested in maintaining their cultural traditions with American men?
	We'll have to get to it later.
	Here, here, I'm going to ask it.
	Let me just ask this through yes or no.
	Okay, I get it.
	Hang on.
	Stop, Just listen.
	I'm just going to ask this through yes or no.
	None of these questions are going to be loaded, I promise you.
	Not a one of them.
	Question one.
	Is it only men who have to sign up for the draft?
	Yes.
	Do all men have to sign up for the draft?
	Yes.
	So then does the potential exist that all men could be drafted?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So if the potential exists that all men could be drafted and zero women can be drafted, then why is it that we don't give men double the voting that women do?
	Because we're under the assumption that all men could be drafted to go fight a war and zero women ever will be.
	It's just I don't think that would necessarily, I mean, be the solution that we're like looking for in our society, that men would get double vote.
	I don't know.
	I think if you asked men as a collective, like, hey, what do you think we should get for this?
	I don't think all men would be like, I want a double vote over women.
	Men, if you were to, do you think then that if you were to, and we could run this social experiment, I think it's interesting.
	So you think if you went down the street and you asked men, you have to sign up for selective service and women.
	So we want to, hang on, so we want to give you double the vote of women.
	Do you think most of them would say no?
	You think most of them would demand that women had an equal vote to their own?
	I, er, but...
	The double vote is just a very...
	Wait, let me ask you guys a question.
	Maybe you guys want your will to whatever you want politically, you want your will to be the law of the land.
	If we asked women this question, would you like double the voting power of men?
	Do you think women would take it?
	You want me to add?
	Starting with you?
	Without an explanation as to why they no, you just get double the voting power.
	Yes, women would take it.
	Well, would you take it?
	Without the simple explanation?
	Yes, I would take it.
	Would you take it?
	Double?
	Double the voting power?
	I mean, I know.
	I mean, that's weird.
	That's not equal.
	I would want to know why.
	It's just an.
	Because you're women.
	You just get it because you're women.
	There's no reason.
	No reason whatsoever.
	No reason at all.
	Yeah, no, I would not.
	Hasn't there been talk, though, about also having women being drafted?
	I think there's currently some.
	Yeah, yeah, there's tons of talk about that.
	You think women are going to vote for politicians that get them drafted?
	You think that women are going to support politicians who institute a draft against women?
	Because I would say that the chances of that is exactly 0%.
	I would say that seeing a draft for a lifetime is an impossibility.
	And you mentioned the monarch, but in today's society, these wars are started by men.
	So why would I want to fight a man's war?
	Okay, so let's assume for a second that they are all started by men.
	Okay?
	Does that mean that all men start them?
	No, I don't think so.
	No, the answer is no, right?
	Yes.
	All men don't start war.
	So there could be men who are aggressive against other countries, right?
	And then men in those countries are defending that country from those aggressive men, right?
	We talk about like peace resolutions and trying to do something other than going to war.
	Yeah, I know, but they just, the other country just says no.
	We don't want a peace resolution.
	We're fucking invading, right?
	Don't you want your men to defend you if that happens?
	I do.
	Okay, sorry.
	And if the time came, if that was the case, then okay, men should get whatever provision we all vote for.
	But that's the case right now.
	The case right now is that if the United States gets attacked and invaded, that all domestic men could be drafted.
	Okay, yeah.
	And women can be, not only.
	And if they were, then I would for sure support their being special privileges.
	I don't see anything.
	You're saying that you're, no, special privileges for men.
	That's what you're saying.
	Like, why shouldn't men get an extra vote if they're being required to do that?
	Saying if, in the case of that happening, in the case of another draft happening, then, okay, we could talk about what okay.
	Okay, well, let's try this a different way, just real quick.
	Let us assume for a second that you live in a like a tribe where they practice human sacrifice, okay?
	And everybody who's only men, only the men are sacrificed.
	That's it, just them.
	Now, almost none of the men are ever going to be sacrificed.
	Almost none of them are.
	And you don't know which ones are going to be.
	You just know that all of them have the potential to be.
	So you give all of the men extra food.
	Would you have a problem with giving all of the men extra food in that case?
	No.
	No?
	No.
	No.
	But it's just a potential.
	Why wouldn't you only give the extra food to the men who are going to get sacrificed?
	So a dupe.
	Can we all finish answering?
	Yeah.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm not allowed to speak.
	I'm not talking.
	Yeah, I was just kind of confused.
	Well, I'll just go back to my question then.
	So I was asking: if you were provided the opportunity, you know, you have perhaps strong convictions about how you would like to see this country run.
	You know, you have your own views on politics.
	Wouldn't you want to empower yourself and women who perhaps lean more towards your own political viewpoint than, say, men, for example?
	Wouldn't you want to double your vote?
	Like, if given the opportunity, would you double your vote?
	I don't.
	I don't.
	I don't think I would.
	I just don't think that doubling the vote.
	You get two votes.
	Okay, since we're talking about hypothetical.
	Wait, can I ask you a question?
	Are you pro-life or pro-choice?
	Pro-choice.
	Okay, so let's assume that there was a well, there is another political movement that seeks to restrict women from abortion.
	And in order for you to keep abortion available, one of the ways you can do this, if it was offered to you, you could double your vote and ensure that every woman in the country could get an abortion.
	Would you opt to double-hell you?
	Well, there you go.
	There it is.
	What about you?
	Would you double your vote?
	I'm not pro-abortions, honestly, unless the girl got raped.
	I'm not.
	Oh, my God.
	Are you?
	I'm sorry.
	Zach Smith donated $200.
	If I'm not mistaken, before women can vote, men were able to vote because they had to sign up for the draft.
	Since women can vote, they should technically have to sign for the draft.
	All men should vote.
	Thank you, Zach Smith.
	Appreciate it.
	First off, I was just asking the doubling.
	I was trying to frame it, the abortion question to her.
	I wasn't asking you the abortion thing.
	I was just asking, would you double your right to vote?
	No.
	I honestly don't think I would.
	I would trust myself.
	No, I would not.
	No.
	Okay.
	So you guys all want less power then?
	Yes.
	For equal power.
	When it comes to voting for those big decisions, I'd rather generally smart men do it.
	Women and men are different, so.
	The only reason I would take the double vote is to double up on whatever my husband would be telling me to.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, I trust my men to make those choices.
	Well, then you wouldn't need to take the double.
	Wait, then Madison, you wouldn't need to take the double vote?
	No, I said no, you're already giving him a double vote.
	Yeah, no, I said no.
	I said the only reason I would take the double vote is to do that.
	Oh, okay, I see.
	That makes sense.
	Yeah, so wait, Zach.
	Thanks, Madison.
	Thanks, Andrew.
	Can I ask a different hypothetical question to everyone?
	So if feminists did really, really push for equality within this certain topic that we're talking about, and you had to choose between keeping your right to vote and having to be forced into the military, would you do that?
	Or would you like, would you let them take your right to vote away?
	I would forfeit their vote.
	I would rather not vote and go to the military.
	I mean, if that's the choice.
	It's one over the other.
	One over the other.
	That's what I meant.
	Yeah.
	No, no, no.
	You can't choose to pay for it.
	You either keep your vote and go to the military or you don't go to the military and you lose your vote.
	No, no.
	So I would.
	Here, why don't we start with me?
	Go ahead.
	I would keep my vote and go to the military.
	I would do the same.
	Yeah, I keep my vote, go to the military.
	Really?
	That's crazy.
	I would not.
	That's crazy.
	I want to say I'd keep my vote, but also on the other side, I feel like my, or this is just how I feel personally, honestly, with the whole political climate, I don't think my vote really matters per se.
	So maybe also forfeit, but I guess I would keep my vote.
	I'd enlist.
	Okay.
	So going back, anyways, I'm going to read some chats.
	Zach Smith, I appreciate the man.
	So you were saying men were able to vote because they had to sign up for the draft.
	Well, yeah, that's pretty much one of the reasons men got the vote before women.
	We have low paladins here.
	By the way, men can't vote unless they sign up for the draft.
	That's correct.
	Mandy, can you read this?
	Really?
	The Vietnam draft is so far back in ancient history for these women that never even consider the draft.
	They have forgotten it even exists.
	Yeah, somebody said, really, yes, really, men cannot vote unless they sign up for the draft.
	It's part of voter registration.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Well, you're saying that's where the whole, if we're fighting for equality, then one could argue why shouldn't women have to enlist in order to get the right to vote?
	Well, one not only could argue it, but that's what we're arguing.
	Yeah, okay.
	What's being argued?
	Yeah, what's being argued specifically here is that men can't even vote unless they sign up for the draft.
	Women have no such responsibility.
	So why is it that men's voters aren't going to be a vote?
	You put that provision in place, though.
	Men are women.
	Who came up with that in the middle of the moment?
	I think that's the first second that it was men.
	Who cares?
	It's you pushing for egalitarianism.
	And men did that in order to ensure the protection of old people.
	So it's like, in a sense, we're kind of indebted in certain ways to them for that, if you think about it.
	But I mean, let us assume for a second that it was men.
	It's purely men.
	Not a single woman wanted there to be a draft ever, right?
	And it was just men who put it in place.
	Why would that matter if the push is for egalitarianism and equality?
	I certainly never had an opportunity to vote on that provision.
	Brian certainly didn't.
	It's an old, old provision.
	So the question then becomes: well, okay, this is now the law of the land.
	You want equality.
	Why is it that we can't really be equal on this then?
	Why is it either you can't be drafted so that that potential exists for you, so you have the same voting rights that I do, or why is it my voting right doubled just because that potential exists that I might have to do something you never would have to do on behalf of you?
	No, I understand the question.
	I fully understand that argument, yeah.
	Did we read that, Maddie, or did it get cut off?
	I read it.
	This one?
	Yeah.
	Oh, you read the whole thing?
	Okay.
	Yeah, I mean, Vietnam.
	There are men who would have been alive today had they not been drafted.
	There are men who are alive today who were drafted, who injuries aren't missing limbs, arms, PTSD, that sort of thing.
	So, all right.
	Thank you, man.
	And then we have Waldo.
	Can you read this?
	It's from the small city, and it's impossible to find someone to date.
	The pool of single women is V-limited.
	I tried online dating and it doesn't work.
	What are my options?
	Meetups.
	How small is the city?
	I mean, you could move if it's really that dry out there, man.
	You could also.
	Nothing's impossible.
	Could also passport bro it?
	Is that what you're going to say?
	Yeah, I mean, well, that's, you know, you'd have to move.
	Passport.
	There are meetups, so you can sign up for meetups, which is a cool thing about the internet, is you can sign up to meet up to do hobbies with people.
	And it's a little awkward, but at least it gives you a slight organic chance to meet somebody without being on a dating app, as that's kind of like a personal ad for yourself.
	So you're just putting all these traits forward you think somebody's gonna find to be appealing, but yeah.
	Maddie.
	No Vajin is worth waiting three years for.
	That's what he realized.
	Rip.
	Rip him.
	I won.
	W. All right, we have another one coming in.
	Should come in, Law Paladins.
	Appreciate all your support tonight, man.
	You are a.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	Smart of you be for realizing that progressives don't care about the male issues.
	So when are you abandoning California for a free state like Florida?
	I mean, I don't know.
	There's definitely a lot of people.
	Well, the other thing there, too, for people to remember, is that sometimes people are stuck in Comiland, California, because they might have family.
	They might have extended family and roots there and things like that.
	They can't just uplift and go.
	So you can kind of understand that a little bit.
	But I would also like to see Brian get out of Commie Fornia, honestly.
	It's hard.
	It's hard.
	I mean, Florida is an option.
	I kind of, I mean, I've entertained going to Hawaii.
	I think I'm going.
	I think I'm going to Florida.
	That's a good move.
	Yeah, I think I'm doing it.
	What's that?
	What part of Florida would you live in?
	Well, I'm not going to tell anybody that.
	As you might understand, so many women from the whatever podcast desire and stalk me that if I were to give out that kind of information, I feel like I'd have women lined up.
	No, I'm kidding.
	Obviously, I'm kidding.
	But I do do high-profile political debates, and obviously progressives don't like me very much, so I'm very cautious about giving out too much information about stuff like that.
	Got ops.
	Yeah.
	I don't want to say where I'm moving to in Florida because Mia over here might try something.
	I don't know.
	Might be neighbors.
	She's small but mighty.
	Okay.
	And then we have Xander with a.
	Xander donated $200.
	Are Slavic women coming here because they want to embrace American feminism or are they more interested in maintaining their cultural traditions with American men?
	Is this for you?
	I don't.
	Well, I think she is also somewhat from the Slavic countries as well.
	But most of the Slavic women or women from.
	I wouldn't speak only for Slavic women.
	I think there's lots of Latino women as well.
	It's just different culture.
	And they have more appreciation for men.
	It's just kind of engraved in them.
	And also Slavic countries, there is difference of them.
	So you would find the mentality of women from Kazakhstan, for example, that's where I'm from, different from women, let's say, from Russia.
	Because Kazakhstan is Central Asia, so it is more engraved instilled to value the man.
	Man is the king.
	So it's, you know, the way they treat men would be also different.
	You know, but I don't think all the panel answered the question about feminism.
	Who is feministic or not?
	Yeah.
	I'm not.
	No, I'm not, even a little bit.
	In fact, I'm anti-feminist.
	Yeah, I'm not feminist either.
	And it's, you know, I do value the opinion of my husband.
	I mean, if I trusted him with my life for the rest of my life, he can vote and I will support him all the way through.
	And I think this is really goes with the kind of cultural maybe differences that women from some countries where their family values are engraved just so deeply, they would be supporting their man, you know, no matter what.
	I'm going to get into some pre-show notes.
	So, Mia, you somebody sent me a message about frat boys.
	Oh, God.
	You want to tell us the story?
	Like, we're enjoying.
	You were on another podcast, right?
	No, I think we discussed this a long time ago, though.
	On one of our, yeah.
	I was in college.
	I was in a sorority.
	I had fun with the frat boys.
	What happened?
	Nothing crazy.
	I think no, I think it's very skewed because of the way that it was said.
	But I just hung out a lot with the frat boys.
	Faita at Cal Poly Pomona was definitely my favorite frat, and I just spent a lot of the time there.
	Oh, okay.
	Nothing like crazy.
	I think it was more elaborate.
	Nothing happened, right?
	Nothing at all happened.
	I definitely had fun, but it wasn't anything crazy.
	I think it was painted in a really aggressive way.
	What does that mean?
	Nothing crazy.
	I was only ever active with one person in that fraternity.
	So it wasn't anything.
	Nothing had like a sweetheart.
	No relationship.
	It was not a sweetheart, especially.
	But you had sex with one person?
	I had sex with one person.
	So something did happen.
	Something did happen, but I mean, in the way that it was kind of framed online, it's definitely not nearly as exciting.
	No, but you went on a different, I don't think it was our podcast.
	It was like a different podcast.
	I was in an interview on the beach one time.
	That's where I think it's coming from.
	What was the story?
	It was literally just, what's your craziest, like, what's your crazy sexy time?
	And it was, oh, I had a lot of fun at college with one person.
	Were there other frat boys around?
	Obviously, it was at their house, but there was no involvement of them.
	Oh, okay.
	So it wasn't crazy.
	Okay.
	It was almost kind of like her story, right?
	Where like the dudes were outside the door.
	I mean, they're definitely the frat house there is terrible, so it's definitely very easy to hear things, but other than that, nothing crazier.
	Good times.
	Okay.
	So we can laugh about it.
	Oh, I want to go back to Coco Coco.
	So last time we had to talk about, you said like a bunch of the girls in your friend group, at least at the time.
	I don't know if you're friends with them anymore.
	Probably.
	How like they got rosters.
	Ooh.
	Yeah.
	Let's talk about rosters.
	All right.
	Mia, what's up?
	What's your roster looking like?
	I truly mean it.
	Like I said, 90 days I'm trying to practice.
	It's now been two-ish months of single, and I'm enjoying it.
	What's your roster?
	You got a roster right now?
	No.
	I actually don't.
	I just have one person.
	One person?
	Yeah.
	How long have you been seeing two weeks?
	Two days.
	Actually, longer than two weeks, but not consistently.
	I've known this person.
	He's actually friends with my ex-boyfriend.
	Oh, my God.
	That's a taboo.
	No, not the one that I have, the three-year relationship, a different ex-boyfriend.
	Okay.
	You're not supposed to do it with any ex-boyfriend.
	Nothing.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's probably a red flag that he's not looking for the right things, but.
	Okay.
	Right?
	Wouldn't you think so?
	It's like, why would you go after someone that I mean, maybe they weren't that close?
	Did you ever have a roster, though?
	Ever had?
	Of course.
	Back in the pre-adventure.
	In the freshman.
	In your diary.
	Yeah.
	Like, how big was your roster at its biggest?
	At its biggest.
	At its maximum.
	Well, I mean, like, talking to a ton of people on social media is not what I consider a roster.
	Like, that's just being flirty.
	But if you're like seeing multiple people, like, seeing them, seeing them, that's what I consider a roster.
	Carnal knowledge.
	Probably like no more than three or four guys at the most at a time.
	I'm not really like that.
	Mia, what about you?
	Any roster habits?
	Three, four guys.
	I think in the past, like, I speak to a few people, but I've, one, I've been single for only so little time.
	No, but in the past.
	In the past, prior to my long-term relationship, I had, I think, like a two- to three-person roster of just talking to.
	I'm not hypersexual with everybody, so that's like only two to three, threefold.
	You said yours was.
	Yeah, only five or six at a time, right?
	It's just, you know, seven or eight.
	Only 12.
	No.
	So you said yours was four to five?
	No, like three to four.
	I don't remember.
	Three to four?
	Three to four?
	Okay.
	Just talking to.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	Ever had a roster?
	No, I've only ever been with one person at a time.
	Okay.
	Nice.
	You got Riz for sure, so you must have got like, because you, you, oh, wait.
	I think you were, you're confusing me with the.
	No, you got Riz.
	I got a lot of people.
	Riz.
	Seeping with charisma.
	Charisma.
	Oh, fine.
	Yeah, you got Riz.
	Like, because you date men and women, right?
	Oh, Hawaii Riz.
	Not at the same time.
	No, but like, you'll date a woman, you'll date a man.
	Which do you prefer?
	Do you have a preference?
	Or is it like 50-50?
	Yeah, no, I definitely think I prefer men.
	Like what percentage?
	It's like 70% men, 30% women?
	Probably 70-30.
	I think when I go out to clubbing spaces, I'm drawn to women at the club.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'm surrounded by beautiful women.
	So you're saying like when you see girls in the daytime, like they're just ugos?
	But when the freaks come out at night.
	Like all the hotties.
	It's only the hotties out at the club.
	No, I guess like on my I feel like I know okay.
	Here's this.
	I feel like my eyes are more kind of drawn to woman.
	Yeah.
	I prefer the female form.
	Yeah, I like ladyboy.
	But that was out of the list.
	It's a solution.
	That's a solution.
	It's a solution.
	Ladyboy, if she likes this and this, and combine it together.
	But I feel like in relationships, women, I mean, I know we can be crazy.
	Wait, let's not evade the ladyboy question.
	Would you date a ladyboy?
	No, it's good.
	It's good that you brought that up.
	Good for you.
	I like that.
	Would you date a ladyboy?
	Like a Thai ladyboy.
	They can also be Filipino.
	I'll accept a Filipino ladyboy.
	They're both dirty.
	No.
	Okay, all right, that's fine.
	No, I don't know.
	Well, okay, but I do have to ask this, this one question, okay?
	It's been driving me crazy most of the night.
	I've got to ask it.
	Why do you keep saying woman in place of women?
	Like the plural form.
	Oh.
	Oh, me?
	Yeah.
	Oh, my bait.
	I don't know.
	Apologies.
	Well, I've just noticed that this, and I have no idea why this happens.
	I've been trying to figure this out, but women will often use woman as the plural for women.
	Yeah, yeah, and I don't understand why that happens.
	I don't like it.
	I honestly don't get it.
	I feel like because it kind of feels or no, it's that woman.
	You know, it's like woman.
	Women, you say?
	Woman is the correct terminology, right?
	Yeah, women.
	Maybe it's the California accent.
	I think it is the California accent.
	Wait, so hold on.
	So, you prefer, so you prefer men, but the women's is hot, basically.
	How often you at the club?
	How often you at the club?
	What's up?
	Two times a week.
	No.
	I feel like I used to be at the clerbs a lot.
	Clerbs.
	And I feel like it's kind of situational too.
	If I'm with my group of guy friends, I'll kind of only be scoping women, you know?
	But if you're with the gals.
	But if I'm with the gals, I'd be like, dang, he's a cuties, you know?
	It's just kind of.
	Have you ever had a hookup after the club?
	For no, not for men or women, no.
	Never.
	I'll meet them and then we'll go out maybe down like the next day.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But the ground.
	I've got to ask you a question here.
	It's very important.
	How can you get that mad about a piece of fuzz in my microphone, but listen to women say woman as the plural form of women and say nothing?
	I honestly, I don't understand that either.
	What kind of OCD is this, Brian?
	Well, man.
	It's a good question.
	Here's the thing: I've heard it so much that I just have accepted it as normal.
	Kind of, for example, the women will say like so much that I do it now too.
	Like, I don't say like.
	I start saying the incidence of me saying like is it's crazy.
	I didn't even notice I did that.
	So thanks for pointing that out because I didn't even realize that was immunity.
	That's the very air we breathe.
	I feel like it's just contamination, OCD, specifically.
	Like dirty stuff and that kind of thing.
	I feel as if you're right.
	I feel as if I haven't heard anyone else say the word like more than that Aussie girl that was sitting right there.
	Yeah.
	She said like three words.
	Yeah, she said, but every other word was the word like.
	Like.
	Oh my God.
	Okay.
	Wait, so wait, what was the question we're going around on?
	You're asking about roster.
	Oh, roster.
	Rasta, rosta.
	Oh, yeah.
	And I was like, yeah, you got Riz.
	So like.
	Biggest your roster's ever been.
	I honestly, um, because you had a little fling in Hawaii.
	Yeah.
	Did you get never mind?
	Yeah, I did.
	But as far as the raw as far as the roster, though, I out of, I feel like out of respect, even if I'm just talking to the person, out of respect, I'll only be talking to that person.
	Out of respect.
	Okay.
	So you're saying like you meet somebody and there's no other options.
	Yeah.
	So respect Riz.
	Yeah.
	I'll clear the.
	No, that's why I'm like, I won't even clear the roster because there's no roster in the first place.
	Yeah, there's no roster.
	Okay.
	So like if a guy were to go, like if we were going the first date.
	No, just kidding.
	So if we were going the first date, like there'd be no, all the guys are out of the picture.
	No other guys.
	I wouldn't go on a date with someone if I also had like two or three guys that I was maybe potentially interested in seeing.
	Cool.
	Ever had a roster?
	First of all, I'm trying to understand what roster is.
	Oh, roster, like dating multiple people, sleeping with multiple people.
	Multiple guys, yeah, or multiple options.
	That's multiple options.
	Not keeping all your eggs in one basket.
	No, no, no.
	First of all, I can't do that.
	Like, I can't sleep with one guy and then sleep with another guy.
	I need to be focused on one person.
	Second of all, I don't sleep with any guy unless it's a relationship because I don't want to feel used.
	Sorry, Nick.
	What?
	Everything happens.
	Wait, what?
	What?
	The MILF button.
	You don't have kids.
	Do you have kids?
	I have one kid.
	He's 20.
	Nick asked me this question.
	He's 21.
	Actually, when I go with him places, he says, Mom, don't put your hand on me.
	They think I'm dating you.
	It's embarrassing.
	Oh, my gosh.
	I actually did see you guys earlier and I thought you guys were.
	Really?
	You thought, wait, from behind?
	From behind.
	I thought you guys were a couple.
	I saw them walking around here.
	Yeah, he's like, we have business together.
	He's my best friend.
	I love him.
	I saw this TikTok recently on my For You page, and it was talking about how for a lot of girls, it's normal that when they go out with their dad in public, they get asked, Oh, are you dating him?
	Or things along those lines.
	And I commented that one time I went to Trader Joe's with my dad, and somebody asked me if I was okay.
	And they came up to me and they're like, Are you safe?
	Are you safe?
	I was like, Oh my god.
	Yeah, like that's weird.
	The comment has over like 10,000 likes.
	I kid you not.
	People be assuming.
	No, I saw this, like, this video that got posted of like a girl and her dad.
	Yeah, right.
	And she was making a comment that, like, oh, like, I'm at the age now where when I go out with my dad, like, everyone asks if we're dating or assumes that we are.
	And I commented along the lines of, like, I went out with my dad to Trader Joe's, and someone came up to me and was like, are you safe?
	That's crazy.
	Good.
	No, that's crazy that someone would even be so invasive unless you're literally like totally.
	It made me feel so.
	I actually get asked.
	No, I have gotten asked before with my husband if he was my father.
	So it's the exact opposite.
	Well, I've actually heard this.
	Are you in an age gap relationship?
	Yes, I am.
	Pretty big one, too.
	How old is he?
	I'll just say he's about 20 years older than me.
	How old are you?
	I'm 28.
	Oh, it's okay.
	I mean, I've heard this happening with airlines.
	Like, if a father is traveling with their child, they'll be suspicious of it.
	Right.
	But Trader Joe's.
	Like, you're just a little bit of a drink.
	Was it a man or a woman who came out to you?
	I think it was.
	I think it's actually good.
	I know.
	I don't think it's good.
	My immediate reaction was like, oh, it's good.
	But at the same time, I was like, this is sort of weird.
	Like, why'd you put me in that position?
	Why is that good?
	Who said that was good?
	Why the hell would that be good?
	I tell you, because a lot of people in this country, women get kidnapped, teenager.
	Maybe they thought, you know.
	I mean, it's...
	What the fuck?
	No.
	Hold on.
	What?
	What?
	Okay, I want to.
	No, it could have been like a type of situation where it's a lot of women trafficking here.
	A lot of women trafficking in Eastern Europe, too.
	Like, what are you talking about?
	Yeah, she's just saying that it's goodness.
	You don't understand what I'm saying, and you're taking it out of context.
	Well, I'm trying to keep it in context, so explain what you mean.
	Okay, I'll explain.
	Because I've seen a few documentary that women being kidnapped and held in people's houses for heroes after they was actually beat down emotionally.
	They start taking them to the supermarket to places, but they still wouldn't go to a publication.
	So every time you see a woman with a man, the assumption is that she's been kidnapped.
	No, not at all.
	It had to have been like maybe angry, maybe you were a little.
	You realize how rare that is.
	I mean, of course, my dad, for context, I was sort of like away from my dad.
	Like my dad, it's headspace sometimes is not completely there.
	So, I mean, he was like far away from me, distance-wise, I guess.
	So, I don't know.
	I just want to say that it comes from like a good place of that person's heart.
	What?
	What does your proximity to him have to do with it?
	I don't understand.
	I think if he's body language says a lot, like, does it seem like I want to be there with him when he's all the way down the aisle and I'm on the other side?
	Like, that's why I'm like, there had to have been something that she saw that made her think, like, oh, yeah, yeah.
	What happened is, okay, so I'm just, I just want to, I'm going to have a less charitable take.
	What happened is she was a fucking nutcase.
	That's what happened, right?
	I mean, I think that that's the easiest explanation: is that she was just some weird fucking nutcase.
	Well, she worked for Trader Joe's, or she watched a lot of people.
	Weird fucking nutcases can't work for Trader Joe's now, or what?
	Fairfax.
	Yeah, somebody who is assuming something like that, there must be some kind of loop.
	Yeah, they're a furlough.
	That's their perception.
	Yeah, that's very demonizing to look at men like that.
	I think it's that's dangerous waters to even just say, like, generally, it's a safe thought to think that about a man and his daughter.
	He can't even go to the store with his daughter without worrying that it's a piece of crime.
	I'm trying to think what would be like a similar situation where the roles are kind of reversed.
	Like, imagine a guy is out on a date with a woman, and I'm trying to think.
	A guy is out on a date with a woman, and a guy comes up to the man and is like, Hey, you should put on a recording device so that if she falsely accuses you of a crime, that you can disprove these false allegations.
	I don't know if that's a fair comparison.
	It's not even close to as bad, though.
	I don't think it's nearly as bad.
	It's hard because the only thing I can think of off the top of my head is like going to a restaurant with an older-ish woman and them confusing her for like your mom or something.
	But like, that's not even the same.
	Yeah, that's not, yeah.
	Like, did this woman kidnap you and bring you here?
	Like, no one's gonna say that.
	Wait, so we were going around the table on rosters.
	Roster.
	Ever had a roster?
	Never have a room.
	Ever had a roster?
	You can just say no.
	I think that's a yes.
	Or is it a yes?
	I think that's a yes.
	Oh, it's a yes.
	Oh my gosh.
	There is an explanation for that, though.
	Do you care?
	I think there's no.
	No, you can.
	Well, I was coming out of the relationship and actually engagement at that point.
	And because of my insecurities, I had to feel that there is somebody else to back me, whatever.
	And actually, many women would experience something like that, who are insecure, you know, to have a backup plan or whatever.
	But that's actually, I was dumped by my ex-fiancé.
	And it kind of happened that we, you know, still were seeing each other as friends.
	He became dad eventually.
	I became mom as a result of it.
	It was before I met my husband, who are currently married.
	I'm not proud of it, but there is certainly the, you know, I'm not trying to find the answers or excuse myself, you know, for that behavior, but it did happen, yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, since this kind of just came up in the conversation, I do want to go around on age gaps, relationships.
	So what, what's remind us what your age is and what the oldest guy you would date would be.
	My age is 22.
	The oldness I've dated is 38.
	Oldest you've dated?
	It's 38.
	Wow.
	And you would date that old again?
	Really?
	Okay.
	Um.
	I was just seeing someone.
	I wasn't in a relation.
	I mean, I guess that's a sort of a relationship.
	I don't know.
	It could be casual or it could be serious.
	It was casual.
	He was 28.
	Okay.
	And honestly, I don't think it's better than the guys that are our age.
	I found that to be really interesting, actually.
	Like, you'd think with someone older that they'd have it more together, but it was quite the opposite.
	Hmm.
	Okay.
	Um, in the past, I've gone on a date with a guy in his 30s.
	So I would say, like, somewhere in the 30s, probably.
	Okay.
	I'd take 30s as well, but there are also some 40-year-olds that look a lot younger than they actually are.
	So if that was the case, then I'd be like, whoa, you don't look like you're 40.
	You got like a celebrity.
	So it would be like Brad Pitt.
	Celebrity.
	It would be like, I'd be okay with 40 as long as they didn't look 40.
	Okay.
	The oldest I dated was 50 years old.
	So the same age?
	The same age.
	Yeah.
	Actually, no, it was 49.
	But I wish I could meet someone older, but they don't look at me.
	Like, only younger guys hit on me.
	Get on a dating app.
	No, I don't want.
	You don't want a younger guy either?
	Not really young.
	Like the most, maybe five years, but even that it's bad for me.
	I'd rather have older than me.
	Okay.
	Frankie's like three and a half years older than me.
	That's the oldest I've ever dated.
	Oh, I, yeah.
	I would easily date a man.
	Well, I'm married, but easily someone 30 years older than me.
	So that would be late 50s.
	It just depends.
	It really depends on the individual, but I would not necessarily prescribe that to every single person because there's a lot of people that are not there mentally.
	Not to be insulting, just, you know.
	Well, you're in an age gap relationship.
	Correct, yes.
	Details?
	Details.
	Well, the most I'm allowed to say online is he's at least 20 years older than me, and I'm very happy with it.
	I think a lot of people are concerned with power dynamics, but there's always power dynamic no matter what.
	And I think often it's really widely accepted that the power dynamic is in favor of a woman wearing the pants in the relationship.
	It's even a saying, like, oh, she wears the pants in the relationship, and that's okay for some reason, but it's not okay if the man is in power in the relationship.
	I personally don't think that's a problem.
	I think you do need to select a good individual, a man that's, you know, honorable and nobody's perfect, but you have to be careful who you choose.
	I think, honestly, a lot of people would not be appropriate fits for an age gap relationship.
	If you want details of mine, do you have a specific question?
	I'd be happy to answer.
	Yo, Tiger, thank you for the big gifted 50 subs, man.
	That's very nice of you.
	Thank you so much, man.
	Burmese.
	Speaking of which, we'll go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Yo, thank you for the gift, the 50 community subs.
	Thank you, man.
	You're a legend.
	Appreciate it.
	By the way, guys, it's been four minutes since a prime came in, so I'm pretty sure it's bugged.
	So we need one of you guys to test this out.
	Twitch.tv slash whatever drops if hello, drops a prime sub, guys.
	Oh my God, this man, he is on fire!
	Hold on, let me, hold on, hold on, hold on, let me I got to come back to you.
	He's a pioneer.
	Burmese.
	Burmese.
	Mountain tiger.
	Bring it back, Nick.
	Burmese mountain tiger.
	Wow, thank you, dude.
	You're a fucking legend, and I appreciate that.
	And there we go.
	We have a prime.
	It works, boys.
	I thought it was bugged.
	I thought our Twitch was all messed up.
	Let's go.
	We need you guys to follow us, though, because we're going to be doing Twitch exclusive streams with Maddie.
	We're going to be doing IRL stuff.
	Mia is going to throw, she's going to do like a hot tub stream.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	Absolutely.
	Oh my God, he's on fire.
	This man is on fire.
	He gave out another 10 community subs.
	You're subs.
	Excuse me, you are a freaking, hold on.
	I'm going to play another soundboard thing for you.
	I'm a fucking legend.
	Hold on, shit.
	One sec.
	I got it.
	I'm a fucking legend.
	You are a fucking...
	Hold on.
	That's right.
	You see that clutchness?
	I am fucking clutch.
	You are, sir.
	Congratulations.
	You're brave and a decent man.
	Okay, thank you.
	Wait, did he just do a note?
	Oh my God.
	Wait, bring it back, Nick.
	He just did.
	He is on fire.
	Oh, my God.
	Can you explain what subs are?
	Because I'd be thinking like Subway Sandwich.
	Subscriber.
	Yes, every single time he is sending Subway sandwiches to the studio right now.
	Every time he sends in one sub, it's one Subway sandwich.
	All of us are going to be obese by the end of this fucking show.
	Thank you, Burmese tiger.
	Thank you.
	No, so it's...
	Okay, who else?
	So for Twitch, it's like $5 per sub.
	Oh, okay.
	And it allows people to watch the stream ad-free, basically.
	Cool, cool, cool.
	Awesome.
	And there's some other benefits.
	Oh, wait.
	Hell yeah.
	I was like, dude, he's getting really excited over subway sandwiches.
	Yeah, I almost feel like he should bring it over to Streamlabs instead of on Twitch.
	Because Twitch, those greedy sons of guns, they take 40%.
	There he is again.
	This guy's on.
	Oh, he's on fire.
	I know.
	Who is this?
	Yes, I do.
	I was talking about it.
	Pull Twitch back up.
	Okay, Burmese and Burmese.
	Mountain Tiger.
	I know.
	It's just a California.
	Is he from?
	Wait, Burmese is like for Burma, right?
	Burma?
	Yeah, Burma.
	Or is that like a type of tiger?
	A Burmese mountain.
	Is it the type of tiger?
	Or it's like a mountain tiger?
	I'm thinking of the mountain dog in Burma.
	I think it's a type of tiger.
	It's a type of tiger?
	It's a type of tiger?
	Burmese mountain tiger.
	Like, can you go to like Idaho and find a Burmese mountain tiger?
	Probably not.
	I'm confused.
	Look it up.
	It's difficult.
	Hold on.
	Age gap question.
	Oh, yeah, we'll get back to that.
	Burmese.
	Nick, are you googling it?
	Did you Google it?
	Find me the details.
	I don't think it exists together.
	Pull that Wikipedia up.
	Pull that freaking Wikipedia up.
	Pull it up.
	I need to know the details on Burmese.
	Burmese.
	Chinese tiger.
	Panthera.
	Tigress tiger.
	Thailand louse.
	Tinkers.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That looks like the jungle book.
	My dad was born.
	What's the difference between a mountain tiger and a mountain lion?
	Are they different?
	They're different levels.
	I don't know.
	I'm not a tigers and lions.
	A zoo person.
	All right.
	Well, thank you, man.
	I appreciate it.
	Okay, we're talking about age gap, and we were here.
	Or she was telling us about her.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	So you're 28 and your husband is like 48 plus.
	Yes, correct.
	50 plus.
	I'm going to stick with that.
	Just be respectful.
	Just be big.
	He'll be big.
	He's a vampire.
	He's 133.
	But you're on the right track.
	Let's just say that.
	You said that you have a YouTube channel where you advise others on becoming more elegant.
	Yes, I do.
	Yeah.
	Am I elegant?
	I want to be.
	You know, a lot of people get offended by that.
	I can sense a little bit of.
	It's not an offensive thing.
	It's not about perfection.
	No, no, it's not about perfection.
	It's just, I think, that elegance is basically consideration of others.
	So you would probably appreciate that in your panelists.
	Like those two girls that walked out.
	That was extremely inelegant behavior.
	Very inelegant.
	Very inelegant.
	Very, the slouchy.
	It's just a word that catches your slouching.
	No one went on.
	But there were also like, oh, when she was like, I didn't hear anyone, like, anyone else.
	I was like, the four to five guys a week was crazy.
	That was kind of wild.
	That was crazy.
	That was wild.
	I don't know.
	She said that shit was my first point.
	I felt bad for her.
	Not me.
	That's just like giving detached.
	Yeah, I mean, she also makes decisions for herself.
	Sad.
	Somebody who does that to themselves, it's huge.
	She's only detached for like a little bit.
	But, okay, so the elegant thing.
	Nick, why would you pull that up?
	Wait, what?
	What's up?
	What?
	I don't know what I did.
	Don't respond to that.
	Yeah, okay, now you can.
	Very unelegant.
	That's very inelegant.
	I don't think.
	Wait, have you guys heard that Taylor Swift thing where it's like girls who listen to Taylor Swift give to the BJs?
	Have you guys heard of that?
	What the hell?
	What?
	Give a toothy TV.
	What is it?
	Oh, like teethy?
	Toothy.
	What is that?
	And am I using it?
	With their teeth?
	Like, where their teeth will actually be.
	No, wait, I've never heard that before.
	And I was just guessing.
	You've never heard of a toothy BJ?
	No, I have, but the phrase that you said, I'd never heard it.
	How did I say it?
	2D 2D.
	Oh, I thought you said 2D, like two-dimensional.
	Damn, sign me up.
	That sounds like a good time.
	I thought you said two-dimensional as well, bro.
	Wait, really?
	Yeah.
	I would go to Great Minor thing to like.
	And I was like, what's a 3D blowjob?
	I was like, what's a 3D blowjob?
	That was some code.
	I want a 4D chest.
	It's like 3D, 1D, 1 direction.
	And the inverted artist.
	English is my second language, okay, guys?
	You got to cut me some slack.
	I think in actually, I think in English, but I'm processing, my processing's all fucked up.
	I should have stayed in France for a few more years.
	I moved here.
	It fucked me up.
	That's why I stutter and I speak.
	I can't articulate myself.
	Sauva?
	What?
	Are you really French originally?
	Yeah.
	Do you know what sava means?
	Of course.
	Sauva?
	It's like a question.
	How are you?
	Sava etois.
	How's it going?
	Kind of.
	Just check in.
	Just check in.
	You didn't hear the part where I fucking spoke French earlier?
	I was up.
	Oh, I don't remember.
	My mom is Florence.
	But what do you guys think?
	Do you guys agree?
	Like, women who listen to Taylor Swift Swift agree with that.
	Who hears a Swifty?
	Oh, my God.
	Nobody.
	Nobody.
	Maybe when I was like, you're a dear girl.
	Come on, you're not a Swift.
	This is the craziest thing.
	Did you just seal clap?
	Did you just seal clap over being a Swifty?
	No, no, I'm not a Swiftie.
	No, she's happy that no one here is a Swifty.
	Just call it a Swift.
	Why are you watching that?
	That's so rare.
	That looks like some code.
	It looked like you were seal clapping that you were.
	And then when nobody else was backed off on the coin, no, no, no, no.
	I'm not literally happy.
	That's rare to me.
	He just said that I look like a Swifty.
	So also saying that I look at me.
	It's when you don't like.
	When your teeth accidentally slip on it.
	When you're Sing the D. That's technically.
	Wait, hold on.
	Let's have Maddasy.
	Madisy.
	Morrissey.
	Let's have Maddassee explain it.
	Go ahead.
	Explain what?
	To the head.
	Uh-oh.
	When you're Sing the D.
	Oh, my God.
	When you what?
	When you're Sing the D.
	And like, Enthusiastically or unenthusiastically.
	Obviously, unenthusiastically.
	Obviously, listening to Taylor.
	I'm learning so many new words.
	I didn't even know what on defense is.
	You know, Brian, because of your podcast, I'm learning so many words.
	And she knows what the 2DBJ is.
	My God.
	And I guess Brian thinks that I look like I get one.
	With covering details.
	Put on some Taylor Swift, but get down on me when people like.
	You look like a Swift.
	You know, that's basically walking through the jungle.
	Long Paladins donated $200.
	Oh, you're sorry.
	Brian, how much more tips are required to get talk to a girl on the show?
	I can't find her socials.
	Everyone was saying that she deleted it all.
	I cannot find her socials.
	I will get background out with her.
	I will fly her out here to be on the show.
	We need to find Hawk.
	How do you say?
	Say it.
	Okay, maybe she isn't a SFD.
	Say it with the accent.
	How did she say it?
	How did she do it?
	She said it like a dude.
	She said it like a southern dude.
	Yeah, she's like, y'all give him that.
	You got to connect, Andrew.
	I don't know.
	Look, I got to.
	I got to have her on the show.
	Nothing's turned up so far.
	So if anybody knows her, hold on, let me.
	She's going through it.
	Hawk Taw girl, you're.
	Not Hock Ta.
	I can't pronounce it.
	You're cordially invited to be on the whatever podcast.
	We'll fly you out here.
	How about that?
	This is gross.
	We'll fly you out here.
	We'll get the exclusive.
	I can't just give any girl access to a computer.
	She'll find age gap.
	The only finish was whether or not he had any questions specifically pertaining to it.
	If not, then we were talking about age gap.
	Yeah, I mean, if anyone had a specific question or asked me to ask you, what's wrong with me?
	Oh, actually.
	You don't have to be like specific.
	No, we met through work.
	What's wrong?
	Oh, okay.
	What do you mean by what's wrong with you?
	It's just a joke.
	I mean, a lot of people are judgmental about it, so that's why.
	Judgment.
	Kill you girl.
	It's okay.
	I don't require a judgment-free zone, actually.
	But yeah, it's interesting.
	Interesting.
	It's your choice.
	Nobody should judge you.
	I mean, a lot of people think that it's creepy when older men are attracted to younger women, but even if they're with a woman that's also older, older men are always attracted to younger women.
	It's not creepy.
	It's biological.
	I mean, it doesn't mean they should just, yeah, hook up with every single person.
	Yeah, but it's good for the man, bad for the woman.
	No, it's great for it's great for the woman.
	Any younger woman for women?
	It's awful for old women.
	When she gets older, she's stuck with the old man.
	Correct, correct.
	But I mean, when you love somebody, it's not because if you're a young man and you date a young woman, then you're also stuck with an old woman once you get old.
	Yeah, it's so much fun.
	It's good to be able to do that.
	It's good to the woman.
	It's good to the man, bad for the woman.
	That's exactly what I said.
	I mean, yeah, the growing together is the benefit.
	Growing up together is the benefit of being with a younger man, however, or a man your age.
	However, it just depends on who you are.
	For me, I would rather be with a person that already is established and knows who he is.
	And when he says, this is acceptable to me, this is unacceptable.
	I don't have to play games.
	I just know what he wants, and then I either take it or leave it.
	For me, that works better.
	Can I tell you something about it?
	Sure.
	I mean, yes, I understand exactly.
	But you said you've never even dated an older guy, though, right?
	Yeah, but I've seen around me a lot of people.
	But what I'm thinking is, when you, when you get, I have clients that were married when they were younger, older men, right?
	When he gets older and he starts to feel bad physically or other things happen, you become more like a mate than a wife.
	Well, when you love somebody, you take care of them.
	It's not about aesthetics.
	It's not about perfection.
	You fall in love with somebody, and if he's ever hurt sick or anything like that, I would literally give up everything to take care of him.
	I don't care if I would have to be his mate or his mother.
	No, I care somebody.
	No, I love him.
	And that's the thing: when you love somebody, that's what you do.
	And I would like to imagine that.
	Even me at my younger age, if something happened to me, let's say my legs got cut off, I couldn't walk around.
	God forbid, yeah.
	But I would hope that he would do that for me, regardless of age, you know.
	And he would have to, he would have to be my servant.
	But I would hope you do that because he loves me.
	I know he would.
	I'm just saying, like, it's not.
	I don't care.
	I don't care about.
	I'm not afraid of you, and you love him and you like this, but love doesn't stay when you're in a relationship where you title the age, right?
	I think it does.
	After a few years, I mean, I don't know if you have kids or not, but after you have a kid or two, your body or hormones changes.
	Usually, your sexuality towards your men after you have kids completely changes.
	Okay, so now it's like you're excited, you're amazing, he's teaching you, he's leading you, he's your amazing man.
	But when you grow older, I'm not judging, I'm just telling you from hearing stories from other people.
	You know, I'm not saying everybody always could be exceptional, but I also think that like that to the other side.
	I would never date a younger man because I don't want to be with a younger man and then he'll leave me for a younger woman, you understand?
	Younger women they keep men younger as well because through their way they carry them.
	It's good for the men, not good for the woman.
	Yeah, I actually read the book by Jeff Weiser called Maxims of Manhood, and he is proposing the formula there of the ideal age gap.
	So it is basically you take the age of a man, divide by two, and plus seven.
	That would be the ideal age for the man.
	How old is it?
	For a man having to be like a man.
	So take a man's age.
	It's 21.
	I'm 34.
	34 divided by 2, 17 plus 7 is 24.
	Oh.
	So man's age divided by 25.
	Man's age divided by 2 and plus 7.
	So it is actually beneficial to get married younger because as we agree with you.
	I mean, there's a we're looking at the age.
	I think to get married younger is the best.
	I think this is ideal ugly.
	But for a woman, I guess it goes the opposite way.
	Her age divided by 2 minus 7.
	Right?
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	It's easier to go by the 21.
	I'm dating an eight-year-old.
	It's better to meet someone special while you're young.
	That's true.
	It is.
	Brian, Brian, why are you in the back room?
	Sorry, sorry, sorry.
	I was just doing some research.
	But actually, the marriages with a big age gap are pretty stable if they are based on love and connection, of course, and mutual respect.
	Love and mutual respect.
	Has anyone ever seen you that you sound like Sidney Sweeney?
	No.
	You sound like you.
	Oh my goodness.
	I'm going to be really careful.
	Listen to her more.
	When you said the I love you thing, I was like, Am I in a movie?
	Wait, who?
	Sidney Sweeney.
	Who the fuck is that guy?
	Who's that?
	Who's Sidney Sweeney?
	Yeah, who's that?
	You've never got a guy?
	All the guys really like her.
	She's like a blonde.
	She's got a lot of people.
	Nick, you think she's mid?
	Yeah.
	Nick thinks she's mid.
	I think a lot of guys would disagree with that.
	They're lame.
	Yeah, Nick is a virgin, though, so.
	Oh.
	What?
	I've never heard that.
	Oh, wait.
	You know things about Nick?
	Yeah.
	Nick, have you been lying this whole fucking time?
	No, I.
	No, he's a virgin.
	Oh, he's born again or whatever?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Corn agent experience.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	What are these things that you're saying about my pal Nick over there?
	What are these things that you're saying?
	What are these malicious allegations that you're talking about?
	God, this guy is on spot.
	You're.
	Hold on.
	What do we do?
	We got to do something for this guy.
	Whoa, he's given like real wrong.
	I got to play it.
	I don't know what I'm going to play, but I'm going to.
	Nothing bad about Nick.
	I love Nick.
	Yes!
	Crab cakes and book books!
	That's what Marilyn does!
	I'm not sure why I played that.
	I was going to say.
	But thank you, Burmese mountain tiger.
	Thank you, bro.
	Wait, pull up Twitch one more time.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
	I need a VIP.
	I'm going to make this guy a VIP.
	Hold on.
	How do I do that?
	Hold on.
	Let me figure it out.
	Burmese, Burmesian Tiger.
	Can you write in the chat so I can VIP you?
	That's very nice.
	Very nice.
	Hold on.
	He gave another one?
	Write in the chat, Burmese Mountain Tiger.
	It's been going off.
	Go in the chat.
	Go in the chat.
	You get VIP, bro.
	Okay.
	He's an oil-barren tycoon.
	Okay.
	Where is he?
	I don't see him.
	Right in the chat, bro.
	Oh, guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drops a follow, drops a prime sub.
	Guys, it's been one minute since we've gotten a prime sub, so I'm pretty sure it's bugged.
	I think it's not working.
	Can somebody test out a prime sub?
	I don't know.
	If you have Amazon Prime, you can link it to your Twitch.
	It's a quick for easy way to support the show every single month.
	There he is.
	Okay, let's get this guy a little VIP.
	Oh, wait, I just type it.
	God damn, I'm a Twitch noob.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	While I'm doing that, boys, go to Twitch because I'll tell you why you need to go to Twitch and drop us a follow.
	Because Madison's been streaming on there.
	Did it work?
	Did I VIP you?
	I think I did.
	Okay.
	Type again.
	You now have pixels.
	Okay, thank you, bro.
	You're a legend.
	Yeah, so anyways, going back to you over here.
	So, well, her.
	So you have.
	You said it would have been better when they were still here, but you said you wanted to call out OF girls for being delusional.
	You believe 99% of these girls, sorry, Mia, will never find happiness in life.
	Girls who do OF, softcore or hardcore, will never find true love.
	In addition, promiscuous women will never find true love.
	Your words, not mine.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Do you want to go back and forth with me on this?
	Sure, I mean, we can talk.
	There's no, here's the thing.
	Of course, there are exceptions.
	And there are marriages.
	Like you were quoting earlier, you know, they get married.
	It's like 50% divorce rate, if not more.
	So a marriage can perhaps happen through that.
	I just think that to a man is really, really whether they are interested in sleeping with a woman who is obviously very appealing visually, like stunning, like you are.
	Stunning.
	I think it may make it.
	Wait, who are we talking about?
	Oh, I'm talking about her, for example.
	Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.
	Thank you.
	Well, I'm just saying, like, they'll be attracted.
	They'll be interested for carnal knowledge purposes.
	Yeah, carnal knowledge.
	And I think the carnal knowledge brain can definitely get people a little bit excited about things and whatever.
	But I think ultimately, men have an extremely hard time actually getting over the legitimate reality of a woman selling her body for $5, $10, $15, $20 a month to any and every single man that has a wallet.
	You know, I think that's really hard for a man to get over.
	And I think that's one thing that the feminist culture empowers women to just do what they want and just submit to hedonism because do what makes you happy.
	But what is your ultimate goal?
	If your ultimate goal is not to get married, you don't care, you don't want to have that traditional thing, then I guess it doesn't matter.
	But I think a lot of women are kind of lying to themselves about that.
	I think a lot of them do want to find a true love, a man, but maybe not right now.
	And I get that.
	But the problem is that if you want something, an ultimate goal, but you're on a pathway that's taking you somewhere else, you're not going to get that ultimate goal.
	You might, but it's going to be difficult.
	And there's going to be, it's going to be a lot more complicated.
	Doesn't mean there's absolutely no exceptions.
	Like I said, 99%.
	You could be the 1%.
	You seem like a lovely lady.
	It's just that one of those things is men, like it or not, this is something that is hard for them to get past in their mind.
	It's hard.
	Hard.
	Yeah.
	I completely agree.
	I mean, in my own experience, I came from an entry raid to this pathway with OnlyFans, and I was single.
	And then I met someone who partook in that journey with me in the frame that he became my long-term relationship for three years.
	Not the fucking journey again.
	Did you do another fucking journey?
	How many journeys have you done?
	Everything's not a fucking journey.
	Nobody took the journey to OnlyFans.
	What the hell?
	Nonetheless, I was.
	Why is every woman about nothing but journeys?
	They took the journey.
	It's not a journey.
	You weren't just a small-town girl living in a lonely world.
	You took the midnight train going anywhere, okay?
	You weren't her.
	It's not a fucking journey.
	All right, go ahead.
	Nonetheless, with the first initial three years of this job, I was with somebody who passionately was supportive of it.
	And so now, in turn, around January, I left that person.
	And unfortunately, I've come to face the realities of dating and the culture of men who have separate expectations and separate experiences in dating and that of as well what they are comfortable with in terms of either my past or as well my present with OnlyFans.
	And with that, fortunately, I've met many great men and not people that I'm dating actively or any of that format, but just people that I've encountered and who I've been with in any relation to friendship as well.
	And with that, I've learned it is not necessarily forgivable in a sense where certain things, of course, cross boundaries, even my own, of my past with OnlyFans.
	But a lot of people are understanding and capable of grasping why I made these decisions, why I proceeded with certain activities or certain content media, etc.
	For instance, I filmed Boy Girl for a short period of time with my partner over the long term.
	We expected marriage.
	We expected individuals.
	I want to go.
	We expected all of these things.
	And so for that, when I speak of that to any man who I'm even considering to be in a dating relationship with, they get that explanation and they grasp typically why I would have done so.
	Considering market is on the table and all these things, they understand that.
	Regardless of that.
	I've got to ask.
	I've got to ask.
	I have to.
	Okay.
	Wasn't your journey to OnlyFans just about money?
	Wasn't it just a money journey?
	You were just taking a journey for some fucking cash.
	Like, is it really, like, you over-complexify the shit out of this, right?
	Is it really that complex?
	You wanted a bunch of fucking money, and if you showed your, you know, naked body, you got a bunch, right?
	It's pretty simple, isn't it?
	Isn't that the whole journey?
	Pretty simple, yes.
	I mean, if we're not taking, we're not extracting any of the information as for what the money was purposeful for, what my intention with the money was.
	Yes, my money.
	My goal was I will post images or videos of my body, whether it be nude or not, and from there we'll get money.
	Yes, completely.
	That is 100% what they expect.
	Can I tell you something about this?
	So it was, so hang on.
	So it was a journey to get a bunch of money by taking your clothes off, right?
	Like, isn't that the journey?
	Hang on, it's not the hero's tale.
	This is not that journey.
	This is the journey of taking off the clothes for the money.
	That's the journey here, right?
	That was the journey that I took.
	Yes.
	Yeah, okay.
	All right, that's fair.
	That's fair.
	You said earlier that you were in a relationship and it was accepted and he initiated, right?
	You have to understand a guy or a man that initiates something like that within the relationship is a disguised pimp.
	Well, no, Let me formulate this.
	I made my decision to proceed with OnlyFans upon my own discretion prior to this person's involvement in my life bending format.
	So this was entirely my decision.
	But it doesn't matter.
	I want to tell you something.
	If you were next to a good man with values, even if you initiated it, and even if you want to do it, he would persuade you from doing this kind of thing.
	Because now you're young, you're beautiful, you know.
	But what's going to happen after 10, 20 years when you no longer have this value in the market, and then you have that past.
	And you explained also something earlier.
	You said when you meet a man, you explain it to them the right way, why it happened.
	It doesn't matter what you explain.
	If it's a high-value man, this stain in your record, you understand what I mean?
	And you could never take it away.
	No money you do could erase that thing.
	I completely agree.
	I think it tainted in a sense who I am and who I appear to be.
	That's I'm not trying to.
	No, of course.
	I think I'm very open and honest about my experiences with it.
	So I know it taints the image that I have and the image that I hold with any potential partners and friends and any comrades of any format.
	So I understand that.
	Do you still do it?
	I still do it.
	Why do you do it?
	I'm just curious.
	Like, what is your.
	So I heard you say money.
	Yeah, of course.
	I think, simple basis, everybody does something for money typically.
	Any job and any occupation they choose.
	Of course, passion.
	Initially, it was for money.
	It later drove into passion of discovery of self.
	And yes, I know we can talk into discovery of yourself.
	Was it the discovery of all the shit that you can buy that made yourself happy?
	Was that the great discovery of self-did you find yourself at a department store when you were spending a bunch of fucking money that you made?
	I mean, honestly.
	I'm curious.
	Let's be real.
	I can fix her.
	So I'm curious.
	I have one question.
	I'm very curious.
	Are you saving?
	You're preparing to your future?
	Yes.
	Or are you just going to spend and doing shopping?
	Because if you're doing this and putting this stain in your life, at least buy real estate, save, and don't have kids because your kid's going to suffer, you know?
	Damn, that's that's that's true.
	I have to ask this real quick.
	When did it stop being about making a bunch of fucking money?
	Because simps pay you money to see your naked body to a journey of self-discipline.
	When did it become self-discovery?
	Now it's about me trying to get in touch with my inner what?
	Your inner what?
	Not necessarily sexual needs, so inner just how would I say inner peace and inner tranquility.
	So myself, I into it.
	So hang on, let her finish.
	Let her finish.
	So for instance, I struggled with insecurities all of my life, anxiety a lot.
	And I didn't recognize it until I got older.
	As well, the biggest insecurity or biggest anxiety that I dealt with with my life was supporting my parents.
	Neither of my parents were able to support themselves for a long time.
	And so, and still continue to struggle, unfortunately.
	And so, for that, that's what drives me most to continue this work is to help you.
	So, then, hang on, by this proxy, I assume that your parents are very much on board with your OnlyFans career?
	They are.
	They are, thankfully.
	Both of them are.
	So, your dad is okay.
	They're not in the sense where they want their daughter to be doing OnlyFans.
	They just want to profit off of you.
	They do.
	That's sad.
	That's right.
	The reality is that's really sad.
	Hang on.
	So I just want to make sure I got this clear.
	You sit down with your old man who just adores you.
	You're his little girl, the pride of his eye, the jewel that he always wanted.
	And he sits down with you and he's like, Look, me and your mom, we just can't afford to support ourselves.
	I need you to fuck some dudes on camera.
	Can you do that?
	You did it to disconnect.
	I mean, that's never actually happened, right?
	No.
	So if I can formulate it properly, I made this decision upon my own discretion.
	I was, I believe, 18 and a half, 19 at that point.
	I made the decision because I was witnessing what was going on at home.
	My parents were separated.
	They do not live together.
	They've been separate for a long time.
	Regardless, neither of my parents were doing well.
	My mom had just been left by her husband.
	And at that point as well, my father was wondering about everything else with his life and his home, with his marriage.
	Nonetheless, it led me to what can I do to ensure that not only am I safe, but either parent is safe, whatever goes on with them.
	So that was my dad's work?
	Is he working?
	He works.
	What's he doing?
	He works in sales just for cell phone companies.
	And does your mom work?
	So if your dad could push a button tomorrow, like let's say we got two buttons.
	Button one, you stop doing OnlyFans and he's left to his own means.
	Or button two, you continue to do OnlyFans and then kind of say, well, here's some money, Dad.
	Which button does dad push?
	One or two?
	I think both parents would push the discontinuation of the job.
	Yeah, the discontinuation.
	So the thing is, is that while for you, the actualization of taking care of both the parents might be some kind of like coping motivation, your parents themselves, if they don't want it, how is it good for them for you to do that on their behalf?
	In fact, like I'm trying to think of this from my perspective.
	So let's say a daughter of mine comes to me and is like, Dad, you know, you're kind of broke.
	You know, you're kind of broke.
	You're just not making it, you know?
	But here's the thing.
	I've got this camera, and what I'm going to do is I'm going to hump some dudes on this camera, and other dudes are going to pay me a bunch of money while they masturbate to that.
	And then we're going to get you out of this poverty situation.
	I would fucking lose my mind and go, no, I would rather die in the gutter, die in the gutter broke, with people literally spitting on me than ever see you do that.
	Is your dad like me?
	No, he's not.
	Literally, you don't.
	You sacrificed yourself.
	I did.
	You sacrified yourself, and instead of your parents telling you, I don't want you to sacrifice your future, yourself, your body, they literally push you there.
	Honestly, I wish I would be your mother.
	I would never let you do it.
	What would you do when you smack her?
	Whoa, something like that.
	Yes.
	I'll tell you what I would do.
	I would tell you what I would do if she was my daughter.
	But it sounds like your motivation.
	Security and financial stability.
	So I come from a place that it's very, very much taboo this stuff.
	I'm not going to tell you that a lot of Israeli girls, even Muslim girls, do it today because, you know, the world, it comes and it happens, you know?
	But for me, it's a super taboo.
	And if you were my daughter, I would protect you even if I have to clean houses, do whatever I can.
	I would never let you do it.
	And if you ever want advice, I'm always here for you.
	Thank you.
	I mean, I appreciate all of the concern.
	Did you say that your parents were kind of absent in your life as well and they were not, were there super supportive?
	No, so my parents were a part of my life.
	My dad was a part of my life.
	My mom is also involved in brain in you or they had their own.
	They finally separated themselves, that's all.
	So they broke up when I was two.
	That's the only distinction.
	My parents were both involved in my life.
	They seem selfish.
	It's...
	Well, okay.
	Hang on.
	Listen, you're ascribing motivation here where it doesn't belong.
	So like, look, just talking me to you.
	I just, I got to know this, okay?
	You see, you've engaged in good faith all night.
	It's been enjoyable to have these combos with you.
	This is the part where they get a little bit kind of sticky and tough, right?
	I get that because we have totally different worldviews.
	Of course.
	But diving into this, you can't be serious and honest here with me that your dad would prefer or that you can use it as a coping mechanism that I take care of mom and dad and that's why I just have to do the OnlyFans.
	That's fucking ridiculous.
	Or just from the beginning, you said no.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Let her respond.
	Let her respond.
	Yeah, she knows where I'm getting at this.
	She made this decision alone.
	I made this decision both initially for myself, and it also, of course, had the alignment to trying to figure out what was going on in my family.
	But you had no guidance.
	You should start a group.
	Hang on, hang on.
	You should start a group for woman spleening because when we're in the middle of a conversation, she came in and woman splained for you.
	No, what she really meant was blah, blah, blah.
	No, I was just standing where she said it wasn't her parents.
	It doesn't matter.
	She didn't have guidance.
	It was an entire group devoted to stopping the man splaining.
	And here you are woman splitting.
	I wasn't man splaining.
	I was like, she had normal parents, not normal, but good parents that really care for her.
	They were protecting her and avoiding this and not push her to the fire just because they're financially bad.
	When I got to America and got divorced, I was sleeping in the car with my son until I made it because I didn't want to go and sleep with men and do all this.
	Perhaps you shouldn't take at face value exactly that we're being told the exact truth.
	It could possibly be that the motivation here is very self-centered.
	And what people often do, if they have self-centered motivation, is they move towards some form of altruism to cover the fact that it's actually a self-centered motivation.
	Actually, I'm doing this for this noble cause, which is this, when really the cause is just she wants the money.
	And so I'm just going to be super direct here.
	Isn't the ultimate cause here just that you want the money?
	And the ends of the money really are to benefit you more than anybody, right?
	Ultimately, yes, the decision was based off of money.
	There's no...
	But she's almost like trying to buy the attention of her parents.
	By no means.
	So this is what I do.
	I'm going to choose the support to get the attention of her.
	But Andrew said something smart.
	Andrew said something smart.
	Regardless of my regardless.
	Andrew only says things that are supposed to be.
	No, I tell you what was smart that you said to a lot of girls who do it without being judgmental.
	It's a lot of the things you say.
	It's like you said, it's a coping mechanism to justify that.
	Thank you, Mountain Tiger.
	I completely agree.
	And I know it is a coping mechanism for many.
	Justifyingly, just simply put, I did it for myself.
	I did not, I'm not dragging my parents.
	Yes, my parents do get that.
	You've been doing some bicep curls lately?
	I've been doing a lot of workouts.
	I lost a lot of support.
	She had a gorgeous mind.
	I'm just curious about this last thing.
	What are your parents receiving?
	They got financial support.
	What does that mean, though?
	Oh, my God.
	I don't think it's important to necessarily give exact detail of what I'm giving them money.
	Well, I would say, for instance, if I bought my dad a Snickers bar, that would be financial support.
	And then if I said, well, I give my parents financial support in order to justify a thing that I thought was immoral or that they didn't like, but hey, they're a bunch of hypocritical bastards because after all, my dad let me buy him a Snickers bar.
	Wouldn't you say that that kind of support would be far different than like, I pay their mortgage and take care of their bills?
	So I'm just asking for this distinction of like, is it to that scale or is it to the Snickers bar scale?
	That's all I'm asking.
	It is to the mortgage scale and it is also to the scale of buying one of the parents' home.
	So one of my parents doesn't own a home, so I'm buying a home for them separate.
	For the other one, it's mortgage.
	And that has always been a dream for them.
	And that has been a dream for me.
	I've never lived in a home.
	It was a dream for you.
	But you said that your parents would not support that if you told them that you would quit.
	No, I'm saying if you're not.
	Final point on this.
	If my parents were to decide to quit or not to quit, they would absolutely not want me to continue doing this every single day.
	Absolutely.
	So it is your choice.
	So it is completely my choice.
	And that's what I'm saying.
	By no means am I here to bash my own parents.
	No, no, no.
	That's never my intention.
	Anyways, so it would have been better had those two other girls still been here because at least Maya Mia engages in good faith and she has a good disposition.
	It would have been much better to have dunked on the two Australian demon-y girls than, I mean, we're not really dunking on her.
	No, it's kind of the sticky, it's a sticky point of the convo, right?
	She has been nothing but good faith.
	I agree.
	And we've had nothing but good convos the whole night.
	This was going to be a sticking point, and I'm glad that we got into it.
	She doesn't look offended.
	You're not offended, right?
	Yeah.
	I appreciate that.
	No, I'm not saying it so much from her angle.
	It would have just been much better to have gone in on these two on this topic, especially since Michaela specifically wanted to, specifically wanted to call out the OF girls for being Dolu.
	I did.
	Yeah.
	I'm not going to lie.
	But too bad.
	Too bad the Australians beat feet back down under because they couldn't solve your initials.
	You shut that down immediately.
	It wouldn't have even been fair.
	They wouldn't have had any responses.
	They would have just been like, exactly.
	I would have been surprised.
	What?
	I wasn't even listening.
	What?
	No, their mouths would have been literally hanging open.
	I'm hungry.
	They would have ran away in that moment.
	They're trolling.
	They're trolling.
	You think they're trolling?
	I think they're trolling.
	Yeah.
	But I don't know what happened yesterday.
	You said that when you were 19, you'd been dating a man for almost two years?
	Yep.
	What was the story there?
	Oh, okay.
	The story.
	No, when I was 18 years old, yeah, 18 years old, I started dating a man that was 28, and I dated him for like three and a half years.
	You have daddy issues, huh?
	No, I don't.
	No, but okay, what about the audio clips?
	Audio clips, yeah.
	You want to hear the story?
	Okay, I'll make it brief.
	Sure, short, short, short.
	Yeah, I'll make it brief, don't worry.
	So when I was in that relationship, I was about two years in.
	We lived together, we had an apartment together, and one time he was taking a shower, I opened his phone, I went to his music library, and I found thousands of files of unlabeled weird things.
	I clicked on them, and it was audio recordings that had been taken off of my phone.
	I'm not talking about phone call recordings.
	I'm talking about anytime my phone picked up sound, the mic on my phone, like taking a shower, the water running, singing, anything you can imagine that made sound, he had it recorded on there.
	And I obviously freaked out, panicked, confronted him, but I still stayed with him.
	But what did you think?
	If you're dating a guy that is 28 and you're 18, he's a daughter.
	So if I date a guy that's 10 years older than me, then I should expect him to bug my phone and my mic.
	Okay, got it.
	Got the luck.
	No, but if you're 20, when you're 18, it's different.
	You're really, really young.
	And a guy that age, he's supposed to be a little bit weird.
	The way she sounds, she's probably mature.
	It's in a relatively different way.
	Now she's mature, not when she was 18.
	I think she mature it in pre-war.
	Okay, I'm not.
	I have nothing against him.
	I'm going to be honest, he was not.
	He does not represent most men at age 28.
	That is very, very messed up.
	That's what I'm saying.
	It's exactly your situation.
	It's not because he's 28 and I'm 18, though.
	No, but.
	A lot of 28-year-olds could date an 18-year-old, and they would never do that.
	It's still some kind of a problem.
	I think I'm scared of 28-year-olds now.
	Are you scared of me?
	I'm 28.
	No, no, no.
	Like men.
	No, I'm just joking.
	I'm just joking.
	I'm just joking.
	You also said that.
	How did we get to the 28-year-old Fear Factory here?
	I mentioned.
	I mentioned earlier that the oldest guy I was with was 28.
	All right.
	And then you said you were dating a guy.
	Same guy.
	Oh, same guy.
	The very controlling and paranoid one.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And you didn't give the fake number thing.
	Did you say that already?
	No, no.
	I got a text on my phone one day.
	Still, I was with this guy, committed, lived with him, and everything.
	Okay.
	I got a text on my phone one day from a number I didn't know.
	And the number said it was like very, very nice to meet you today.
	I want to get to know you better, something along those lines.
	It was very like flirtatious, as though we'd met.
	I was at the mall that day shopping.
	I was too scared to even look a male cashier in the eye because that boyfriend was extremely controlling and I didn't want to make him upset.
	I really liked him, right?
	So, anyway, I told him about this immediately because I was scared he would find out anyway.
	And then he accused me of lying and saying, You do know who this is.
	You did give your number, and basically tormented me as I'm like crying.
	I'm so sorry.
	Like, I promise I didn't talk to anyone.
	I come to find out a few weeks later that that was him.
	Yeah, that was him.
	He did it.
	Testing.
	And then he was testing me, but the problem is not just the testing, it was enjoying the torture.
	He tortured me for the rest of the day.
	And look, I was stupid for staying with him.
	It's true.
	I grew up since then, but yeah, he liked the torment.
	He liked to torment me.
	I'm sorry to hear that.
	Oh, I'm okay now.
	At the time, yeah, it was not cool, but it was just a crazy dating story.
	And then you said, you said feminism is a cancer.
	Yeah.
	Care to elaborate at all.
	Yeah, I think that it is.
	I think one of the main reasons even you are so cynical about divorce, which is, I mean, not divorce, marriage, which you know what?
	I'm not saying it's invalid by any means, is because of what feminism has turned society into.
	Exactly.
	I'm just saying.
	Absolutely right.
	I'm just saying it's made women extremely self-serving.
	And it's not that women shouldn't care about themselves, but come on.
	We went polar, we went polar like the opposite direction.
	And I think we started blaming men for every single issue and problem in the world.
	And men have started, a lot of men have started bowing the knee to that.
	And that's just empowered these women more.
	Because if these men didn't allow women to continue with this narrative, that they said enough, it would be over.
	But so many of these men are just they wanted to sleep with these chicks or something.
	That's a very gynocentric.
	You immediately moved over to what about the men though?
	I know right away.
	You started, hang on, you started strong with the feminism is at fault and there's some female accountability.
	You move right to what about the men though?
	No, no, I do.
	I do have to ask you, though.
	I do have to ask you, do you believe that men allow women to do men run things ultimately?
	Is there a patriarchy?
	Do you believe that?
	Yeah, I think that ultimately due to force doctrine, things will reduce down to a patriarchy.
	But men operate within a hierarchy, and that's a portion of the problem that women don't seem to understand because they don't operate in one.
	Right.
	So when women make the counter-argument, no, this is really the patriarchy's fault, which is a feminist argument that you're currently making.
	No, actually, you're wrong.
	Actually, I'm all for the patriarchy.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	It's not the patriarchy's fault.
	No.
	So it's not men's fault that they're enabling women to do this.
	No.
	I just think ultimately, though, men are the ones in power.
	And that, to me, to me, that's a good thing.
	I'm all for the patriarchy.
	But men are ultimately in power, which means whose fault is it?
	Oh, it's not about fault.
	I just think that menu.
	I think that men should stand up to women.
	I just think they should.
	I'm not going to let you evade, right?
	You're going to have to answer the question.
	If men, I'm just looking for a logical extension here.
	If men are ultimately the ones who are in power, then whose fault would this be?
	I think that it's still the women's decision to do those things that are wrong.
	Yeah, I think it's the woman's fault.
	But I think that men ultimately, because I believe men are more powerful than women, because I'm not delusional, I think that if they put a stop to it, it could stop.
	Then if they have the power to stop it and they're not stopping it, but they could stop it.
	I think it's whose fault is it?
	I think it's just to appease women, honestly, because women make a lot of noise.
	So then that would be men's fault again.
	No, actually, it's not about fault.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	Not even about it.
	But how would it not be?
	Like, look, I'm listening to your logic here, right?
	Right.
	So, we're going to start with A.
	Okay.
	Men are appeasing women and they don't have to, but they have ultimate force to stop appeasing women, and they're not, and they're at the top of the hierarchy.
	So, then whose fault are you saying it is?
	I still think it's the woman's fault, but I think it's because men.
	How do you square that with these arguments?
	I don't understand.
	Let me explain.
	Let me explain.
	I think that men are not all cruel and brutal like women say they are.
	A lot of feminists say they are.
	I think that they have soft hearts, and I think they do allow women to have a lot of rights and power and control.
	But I think even you would agree that ultimately, if men wanted to, they could put a stop to everything.
	Men are the ones that allow women to have rights.
	It's them.
	We know that.
	So, can you decide?
	Hang on.
	Hang on.
	I just want to make sure I'm clear.
	Right.
	Then ultimately, whose fault would that be?
	I still think it's the woman's fault.
	Yeah, I don't.
	Women are snowballing.
	I'm trying to square this.
	I know I can't.
	Ultimately, men have the power to put a stop to all of it, but they don't.
	Right.
	So let me ask you a question.
	I have the power to stop some fucking heinous action, right?
	And I don't do it.
	But I have the power to.
	I could do it, but I don't do it.
	Then whose fault is that?
	I lost you.
	This is not a black and white thing.
	That's the thing.
	It's not.
	It sounds pretty black and white.
	It's not.
	It's not ultimately, it's a fault.
	It's because men and women, human beings, they are not perfect.
	Men are not always going to make ultimately perfect judgment calls.
	They do it because they do care about women.
	Men are good to women.
	They give us rights.
	However, I'm just saying that women are running with these, a lot of these rights, and they're going a bit crazy and it's ruining our society in many ways.
	I do think that men, because I believe men are stronger than women and men do ultimately hold the control, which I think you couldn't even argue with, I think that if they really wanted to, they could put a stop to it.
	It would just be very painful.
	No, you're wrong on many levels here.
	Let me explain how.
	Okay, I'm interested.
	Let's see.
	And it's because you forget about the hierarchy.
	You forget about a hierarchy.
	So, again, this is because you don't operate inside of one.
	There are very few bad actors, mostly rich industrialists, which empowered feminism.
	Okay, and still do to this day, by the way.
	The same actual families empower feminism.
	Same types of rich industrialists throughout about 125 years have really pushed this agenda.
	Okay, but inside of this hierarchy, most of the men are actually disenfranchised from doing much about it, short of some type of extreme.
	Well, I can't even get into what it would take on YouTube, but it would be extreme to do something about this.
	Okay, it would be an extreme response to do anything about it because you still are operating inside this hierarchical structure.
	Women don't operate in hierarchical structures, they only compete with each other.
	That's it.
	There's no hierarchy.
	There never has been a hierarchy.
	There's never going to be a hierarchy.
	There's no hierarchy that women have.
	They only compete with men, usually for the men at the top of these hierarchies.
	So it is true that ultimately this teeny tiny group of men may have some power here, okay?
	And they may have some authority where they're working with various women in order to do this.
	The disenfranchised men or the people who, the men are at the bottom of this hierarchy, they would have to control it only through an extreme means.
	And so when I say that all powers reduce, right?
	Or I'm sorry, all power is reduced to physical force.
	Ultimately, it is.
	Okay.
	But it's not the responsibility of men who are born into a disenfranchised position to halt female narcissism.
	No, you know what I mean?
	Yeah, I think.
	That wouldn't be their responsibility to do.
	That's a good way to put it.
	I get what you're saying, and I don't disagree with you.
	It would have to be absolutely extreme measures, and should that be put on the man's shoulder?
	No.
	I think that I'm just speaking passionately, but it's not specifically that I think, and I actually do not think it's a men's fault.
	Extreme action would have extreme consequences, and it would be a disaster.
	Dire, right?
	It would be dire.
	It would be dire.
	I just think it would help in day-to-day.
	Like, even him saying, I'm not getting married, it's not worth it.
	Even vocalizing that, even though I disagree that that's the best outcome for a man's life, is going to help that movement of not bowing the knee to the woman.
	So, I'm just saying that that to me is.
	Well, then that sounds like he has every incentive in the world not to get married.
	Correct, correct.
	I still think he ought to, though.
	Yeah, but you have to, okay, so we got to get to get into this a little bit more.
	Sure, ought this supposition of ought, meaning this is something you should do.
	You should do it.
	Okay, Brian's not a Christian.
	So, from a secular perspective, actually tell me why.
	Yeah, I'm going to get him there.
	But actually tell me why he, as a secularist man, you're sitting across from him.
	He doesn't believe in God.
	He doesn't believe in any of that hoodoo voodoo witchcraft, right?
	And you have to make a secular argument to him from a secular perspective, from a non-believer's perspective.
	Why should he do it?
	Yeah, it's the same exact thing I said earlier.
	It's just a matter of the ceremony of the commitment.
	And not a lot of people, not everyone would agree with that.
	And that's secular.
	That's something that would appeal to the secular, not just the religious.
	How would that appeal to a secularist?
	Well, to make a commitment to the marriage.
	Okay, so let's say a secularist goes out and goes.
	They put on little hula skirts, right?
	And they dance naked in the moonlight, and that's their commitment to each other.
	Okay.
	Is that just as valid to you as like a Christian marriage is?
	You know, I think that it is a bit complicated.
	You know, I get what you're saying.
	I just think, I think to those who are not married, they just wouldn't quite get it.
	But you're married.
	I think you do get it.
	It's just no, Listen, I don't get it.
	I'm trying to understand it.
	Okay.
	Right?
	So I am married, but I have this great, wonderful enforcement mechanism called God, right?
	Called God and my faith.
	And I have a church which governs portions of my marriage.
	And these things are necessary inside of the confines of marriage.
	You have to have community also as a support for marriage.
	That's one of the big things missing in society, which only church can bring.
	Okay, but Brian over there, I'm assuming, so in my brain, I go like this.
	I think to myself, this guy, it doesn't even have to be Brian specifically, but any guy I'm talking to, he's like, you know, Andrew, I like you.
	You're a smart guy.
	Blah, But I don't believe in this God shit.
	I just don't believe in it.
	I hate it.
	I think it's bullshit.
	I think it's nonsense.
	Tell me why I should get married.
	I can't come up for it with a single reason.
	I can.
	In modernity, give me a single reason which is valid.
	I want to hear it so bad.
	I'm ready.
	I am certain that when Brian is truly, truly in love and he knows that he met a super special woman who makes his life better and who just brings the best in him and brings the peace and she wants marriage.
	He will do that for her in order to stabilize their relationship.
	Okay, hang on, hang on.
	If she's giving him all of that shit before he marries her, then why the fuck would he marry her?
	No, he's not a marriage.
	He needs a good Christian girl.
	Hang on.
	I just listen to everything.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	I listen to everything you say, but you cut me off before I finish my point, right?
	Go ahead, go ahead.
	So I'm going to ask you directly, listen to what I'm saying before you respond.
	If you're giving the man all of that stuff, right?
	All the adoration, all the love, bringing peace in his life, and you think he's great, you think he's wonderful, and you throw roses at his feet, you make him fucking bacon and eggs every morning while you're giving him a back massage, you're that talented.
	And you're like, honey, but I'd really like you to marry me.
	And he's like, yeah, no, I'm not going to do that.
	And you keep on doing that shit.
	Why the fuck would he marry you?
	Can you explain that to me?
	Absolutely.
	Okay.
	So it will be actually a progression.
	When a person receives love and care and unconditional love, it is at first it is very, it's kind of foreign at the beginning.
	But then the person becomes addicted to that.
	And they want more and more and more.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Yeah, and so when the woman is consistent and she actually believes that her man, who may be not exactly 100% yet, but she believes in him and helping him grow and most importantly helps both of them grow together.
	Sure.
	Then absolutely, at some point, and she is, you know, I agree with you and she is Christian woman.
	So yeah, she gives everything.
	No, no, no.
	She gives everything.
	She has the Christianity involved.
	You smuggled in the Christianity.
	These are so much.
	Okay, she has standards.
	He's with a woman who's not Christian.
	Okay, she does have standards and she's a high-value woman.
	Okay, so she gives 100% of herself.
	Yep.
	And she invests herself in him.
	And they grow together and they go through challenges together, supporting each other.
	Eventually, eventually.
	And I've seen it happening with my clients.
	Okay.
	I seen it happening with so many guys.
	The men who really didn't feel love and unconditional love for a long time.
	They just shutting themselves down.
	The woman comes into their life who is filled up with love and care and she is connected with him 100%.
	Sure.
	Those men go through transition.
	And yes, at some point, they do see her as someone who is super, super special.
	And I have experienced that with many of my clients.
	Okay, listen, I'm going to just grant all of this.
	You're right.
	So let's go through the stages, right?
	Going through the stage.
	Hang on.
	They're going through the stages.
	Yep.
	She sees him and he sees her as super duper ultra special.
	They're the most ultra specialist people who could ever be ultra special to each other.
	No two people have ever had this kind of interpersonal connection.
	Why the fuck does he need to marry her?
	I don't know.
	Can you explain that part?
	How we get from that to the marriage.
	Why would he actually need to do that to have all of that shit?
	Because he wouldn't want that person to give love to someone else.
	Wait, wait, it's baked into your hypothesis.
	Because she wants that.
	What?
	It's baked in your hypotheticals that she's already got the best.
	Already got the best connection ever.
	He doesn't have to worry about her giving affection to anybody else.
	So why the fuck would he marry her?
	Well, if he did not make a commitment to that person fully through the point of marriage, then she, and this is something that she wants, then she would leave, right?
	Yeah.
	So it's emotional hostage taking.
	It is what?
	You each.
	Emotional hostage taking.
	So what you're saying, what you're saying is this.
	Hey, look, hang on, hang on.
	Listen, here's what you're actually saying.
	Listen to what I'm saying.
	I love you more than life itself.
	You're the best thing on earth.
	I love and adore you, and I'll love and adore you till the day that I die.
	You need to marry me.
	And he's like, no, I'm still going to treat you like you're my wife, but I'm not actually going to get married to you.
	And I love and adore you too.
	And she goes, well, if you're not going to marry me, then I'm going to fucking leave.
	Well, then it doesn't sound like she really loved him and thought he was the greatest and thought he was the best.
	It sounds like maybe she didn't really think that.
	You each get hold on.
	You each get 20 seconds.
	Go ahead.
	So you're talking about manipulation.
	Final point.
	Final point for me.
	You're talking about manipulation and idolizing someone.
	I'm talking about purity and kindness of the heart.
	That's all.
	Okay.
	Well, I get it.
	Okay, but when I'm talking, it still makes no sense.
	Because if she had all this adoration, loved him, thought he was the greatest ever, and performed as though she did, and he said he wouldn't marry her, right?
	And she says, well, then I'm leaving.
	That's a shit test.
	That's the opposite of all of those qualities you're talking about.
	That's why I think that absent God and absent Christianity, there can be no true marriage.
	It's just cope.
	It's just cope.
	It's pure copy.
	I got to move it on.
	I got to move it on.
	Okay, well, Maddie, read this.
	A woman gave me an ultimatum after four months that I needed to marry her.
	I had no problem dumping her.
	My next relationship was four years.
	This woman is ultimate Dolulu boomer mindset.
	Okay.
	There's going to be three more coming in.
	I have a hard time trusting women because I've been lied to so many times.
	I gave them everything.
	I did everything and no appreciation.
	How can I trust them again?
	Trust but verify.
	Wow.
	That says, how can I trust them, I guess?
	So sad.
	You don't.
	Sorry, dude.
	Can't.
	Can't do it.
	I suck at it.
	It's over.
	Yeah, you can.
	You can't go back to the Disney days.
	It's now your HBO.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Through love and care.
	Go ahead, read that map.
	Right, woman.
	Blonde in the middle is a MILF.
	Andrew is moving to Miami.
	I'm going to bring the Lord to the Strumpets LOL panel.
	Do you own a firearm?
	And if so, what?
	Anyone on the firearm?
	Not why.
	I do not.
	I wish.
	I want to.
	I let my husband deal with that stuff.
	Okay.
	I love shooting.
	I got a firearm.
	I get nervous.
	I've gone to the range.
	I just get nervous.
	So holding it.
	I love shooting.
	I have tasers, knives.
	Wait, say that one more time.
	I've got a firearm.
	Wait, hold on.
	That was terrible.
	Say it one more time.
	I've got a fire.
	Oh, my God.
	He came from.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	Maddie, read this one.
	That was terrible.
	B and other men not wanting to get married actually feeds into the goals of the globalist elite.
	He's furthering their agenda, which is controlled through depopulation.
	I don't understand.
	Why can't he populate if he's not married?
	That's what I'm saying.
	That's a completely illogical position.
	That makes no sense.
	Your conclusion, your conclusion is not supported by the premise.
	Sure, I can agree.
	He's feeding into the globalist elite by not getting married.
	But then you say, because it feeds into depopulation, and yet even married people were getting married in their 30s, settling down in their 30s.
	He could be having children tomorrow.
	He could have more than married couples on average.
	Do you know?
	It's fucking illogical.
	It makes no sense.
	Just out of curiosity, like, just out of curiosity, do you know the statistics?
	Do married couples have more children than unmarried couples?
	Religious married couples do.
	Yes.
	Interestingly enough, just so you, I want you to notate this, that secularists are basically thinking themselves out of existence because they don't have children.
	They just don't do it, right?
	It's not a thing which they want to burden their lives with.
	It's a lot of work, you know, and they're kind of addicted to this materialism thing.
	And so they're kind of thinking themselves out of existence at a rate which nobody could ever have foreseen, and it's going to continue to accelerate.
	All right.
	Stiffler asks, Maddie, can you read it?
	Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten, and you cannot pick seven.
	All right, starting with you.
	I would say an eight.
	My own looks?
	Oh, sure.
	Nine.
	Nine.
	Okay.
	Maybe six.
	An eight.
	I don't know what you say.
	I can't say seven.
	Maybe six.
	Eight.
	Seven and a half.
	Is that okay?
	No, you can't say anything with the seven.
	Eight on a good day.
	Usually six.
	You know my answer?
	Two outside, eight on the inside.
	What?
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Wait, so nine.
	Nine, eight.
	Oh, I guess we have to rate ourselves.
	Six.
	I'm six.
	No, no, I was pointing at her.
	I'll give myself a five, Andrew.
	Who said they weren't a nine?
	No, okay.
	Well, then I'm a ten.
	That wasn't funny.
	No, it is funny.
	Rude.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So I would rate myself a 10.
	Let me ask you a question then.
	Are you the person who rated yourself the highest at the table?
	Who rates myself the highest at the table?
	Yes.
	She is.
	Yeah.
	So then I want you to just acknowledge that you think you're the prettiest girl at the table.
	That is brilliant.
	Just own it.
	Just own it.
	Yeah, sorry.
	Are you?
	I mean, say it.
	Yeah.
	Say with your chest.
	Yes, I am.
	You're the hottest girl at the end.
	Now let me ask you to the gal who's next to you, who's sitting next to you right now in the gray, in the first row, who leans back and puts herself out of frame all the time.
	Not intentionally.
	Is she the prettiest girl at the table?
	I have so much self-love for myself.
	No, Hang on.
	Not you, not you.
	To the gal in the gray.
	To the gal in the gray.
	Is she the prettiest girl at the table?
	Are you asking?
	You're asking me.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, you.
	Yeah.
	I think everybody's beautiful.
	Yeah, I know.
	Is she the prettiest girl at the table?
	Don't weasel.
	I will not say that she is the single prettiest girl at the table.
	No.
	Who's the first prettiest girl?
	The single prettiest girl.
	I'd probably say.
	I'd honestly say you.
	Oh my gosh.
	That's beautiful.
	Truly.
	You're both just saying.
	You're so sweet.
	Thank you.
	I don't think so.
	So then she's a 10?
	You're saying who is the prettiest?
	I'm not saying.
	Don't set me up.
	Yeah, well, wait, wait.
	If the gal next to you claims she's a nine and you think the gal in the red is a 10, right?
	I mean, she must be a 10.
	Otherwise, she can't be prettier than the nine, unless you think that the gal next to you is not a nine.
	Is that what you're saying?
	You don't think she's a nine?
	You're setting me up for failure.
	Well, wait, no, no, no, no.
	I'm just setting you up for logic.
	Is the gal next to you a nine or is the chicken red a 10?
	You tell me.
	In distinction to the table, I would say that you are a tiny.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	Wait, sorry, say that one more time.
	I had the same thing for the mounted Premier's Mountain Tiger.
	In relation to the table, I would say the gal in red is a 10.
	I'm sorry, I don't know your name.
	That's okay.
	Thank you for saying a 10.
	You're very too kind, seriously.
	She's a 10.
	Relation to whether or not the person next to me is a nine, I would not say that she is a nine on the scale of what I am looking at overall at the table.
	Regardless, that's not saying that she is not a nine in her own mind, and I don't think she cannot be at that level, I think.
	That's totally fair.
	But it sounds like we have an objective standard that even women can follow, but just kind of pretend it doesn't exist.
	It's just so weird how that works.
	So let me ask this: going around the table with total honesty, rate the girl next to you.
	Left or right?
	Pig.
	Right.
	Starting with the right, rate the girl next to you.
	That's right.
	So, beginning at myself.
	Yeah.
	Thanks.
	I would rate you a nine.
	Wait, she's as hot as you?
	So you're not the hottest girl at the table?
	I don't think I'm the hottest girl at the table now.
	No, no, no, no.
	The gal in black said she was the prettiest girl at the table.
	Now you're not the prettiest girl at the table?
	There's room for you.
	Or are you like a 9.2?
	There you go.
	Yeah, I'm like.
	Yeah, 9.2.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay, go ahead.
	There you go.
	I think you're a nine.
	Into the mics, guys.
	I'd say you're.
	I'd say you're an eight.
	So you guys are the same.
	You're an eight, and you rate her an eight?
	That's how I'm trying to look.
	I am.
	I hate this.
	Okay.
	I think she's a hundred.
	She's gorgeous.
	I said all that stuff because I can't take it.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate it.
	It's over 9,000.
	What do you think?
	Go ahead, Maddie.
	I would rate her an eight.
	She's a good eight.
	Thank you so much.
	I think if we're being relative to age, obviously that has a factor.
	She's seven and a half.
	Okay, yeah, yeah.
	No, it doesn't have a factor.
	We're just looking for objective on a scale of pretty.
	How pretty are you in relationship to all other women on planet Earth?
	Between one to ten, where do you put her?
	Andrew, can we hear your ratings of everyone?
	Yeah, let's ask right after we hear yours.
	Your honest answer.
	Right after we hear your honest answer of all women on planet Earth who exist, scale of one to ten, where do you put Gallin Green?
	Seven and a half.
	Who?
	In comparison to all women on planet Earth, really.
	Yeah, seven and a half.
	And you're the honest, non-anti-feminist.
	You're going to tell people how it is.
	Okay, so I'm a feminist if I'm kind in this exact moment.
	Is that what you're saying?
	Is it kindness?
	Exactly what it is.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	So then you're lying.
	You have to say the truth.
	No, I'm not lying.
	Then what is?
	Oh, okay.
	I'm sorry.
	Then how are you doing a kindness?
	I think you're over-intellectualizing.
	Then how are you doing?
	I answered the question.
	Then how are you doing a kindness?
	I think you're right.
	I think that you want me to diss her and say something low, and I just don't know.
	No, no, no.
	I just want you to explain how it is that you're doing a kindness.
	If it's not that you're saying something which you think isn't true, because you don't think it'll hurt someone's feelings, how are you actually doing a kindness?
	Because initially it was relative to age.
	That's what I was saying.
	And then you said we cannot do that.
	Yeah, we can't eat it.
	Let me finish.
	So you said we cannot do that.
	So then I stopped doing that, but I just stuck with my answer.
	And that's the answer to your question regarding kindness.
	Yeah, but how?
	That does not actually make me a feminist, believe it or not.
	Yeah, yeah.
	How could you be doing a kindness, though?
	I just answered the question.
	What is the kindness?
	$200.
	Andrew, I understand it's difficult with only 200 characters.
	But my argument is not Deepop as a side effect.
	It's actually the goal and secularism, no marriage, of our steps on the way to get there.
	Oh, no, I don't disagree with you.
	In fact, half the reason I argue against some of these arguments is because they're bad arguments, and I want in the ethos good arguments that stop depopulation, right?
	So that's why I trash the bad ones.
	But back to this, so I'm not diverted and I never get diverted.
	Thank you, Mountain Tiger.
	How is it that you're doing a kindness again?
	Do you want me to break it down again?
	I will.
	Okay, so I said, first I said relative to age 7.5, and then you said I cannot do that.
	And so then I said, I'm just going to stick with my answer anyway.
	So then therefore that's kindness.
	That's what I'm saying.
	So does that mean?
	Because otherwise you would have changed your answer, right?
	Perhaps, but I'm not doing that.
	Yeah, so then the kindness is that you lied.
	No, it's not exactly that.
	But if you want to.
	Well, I'm sorry if you were going to change your answer to something that was not true and decided not to, and that was kind, then you're saying the kindness is that you're lying.
	No.
	No, no, I said I wasn't going to listen.
	Yes, yes.
	No, no, I said I wasn't going to.
	Yeah, I know.
	That's worse, right?
	So if you say I'm not going to change my answer, I ordinarily would change my answer, and that's the kindness.
	And that means the kindness is that you're not telling the truth.
	I don't.
	Perhaps then.
	People have moved the kindness.
	Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Let me take over for a sec.
	You don't like what?
	I don't like comparing people in the slightest.
	You don't like comparing people?
	Yeah.
	So you don't make any discernments in terms of the people you date?
	How so?
	Would you date a guy who's shorter than you?
	I have.
	Is it your preference?
	No.
	So if we had a guy who was 5'3 and a guy who was 6'3, you wouldn't make any comparisons between the two?
	Not based off their height.
	Why not?
	You wouldn't prefer to date the guy who's 6'3?
	Sadly, no.
	I guess not.
	There's no, I wouldn't prefer it.
	I'm 5'5.
	That's like really up there.
	That's one inch taller than the average.
	I've dated a guy who's 6'3 before.
	That was my last relationship.
	I don't.
	Oh, okay, wait.
	So the last guy you happened to be in a relationship with happened to be in like the one percentile of male height.
	Yeah.
	But you don't care about height.
	Interesting how that works.
	I don't like comparing.
	Okay, all right.
	Well, what about your previous boyfriend?
	I dated one guy who was like 5'3.
	I dated.
	When you say dated, what do you mean?
	Okay, another one, I guess he was like 5'5, 5'6.
	Okay.
	That was like the one outlier of the guy who I was like.
	Don't get me wrong, like I'm attracted to tall.
	So you don't care about like looks at all?
	No.
	I mean, I can't say no to that.
	So you would be comparing like one guy's looks to another if you were debating on who you ought to or not ought to date?
	Repeat one more time, please.
	You wouldn't.
	Okay, you have two guys that are hitting on you, whatever.
	One is like super attractive, one is not.
	You wouldn't make a it wouldn't factor into your comparison of which one to date?
	Just based on looks?
	Yeah.
	No.
	Wait, what?
	Like, would I compare them just based on their looks?
	Or would I compare them at all?
	Have you ever seen like a group of guys walk past you and seen one guy in the group and be like, oh, he's hot?
	He sticks out.
	I mean, I guess.
	But I meant it more of in like a, I don't, this might sound like, I don't know.
	I don't like comparing women.
	Oh, it's okay to compare men.
	I mean, sadly, that's the sex that I am attracted to.
	So it's like, how can I lie and be like, oh, I don't compare them.
	You know what I mean?
	Fair enough.
	Right, but you're not, we're not asking you to.
	You're asking me to rate every single girl here that's comparing us.
	Since I'm the injector, can I say something?
	I'm working with women all day regarding beauty and they enhance their lips and the cheekbones and everything.
	Yeah, it makes them worse looking.
	But not all the time, but I want to say something.
	All the time.
	A lot of the women.
	No, it's not black and white.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry, yeah.
	But a lot of the women, they intend to always lie to one another regarding their look.
	Like I would see a woman that goes somewhere else to inject and they give them like a really ducky lips and they're like, oh my God, you're so gorgeous.
	Your lips are amazing.
	And it looks ridiculous, but because she's her friend, she would be embarrassed to tell her the truth.
	You know what I mean?
	And you shouldn't be embarrassed.
	Well, actually, this is a great point.
	This is a great point she's bringing up.
	And I can demonstrate this now in real time now that we have all your answers.
	We're just going to go around the table for one last question.
	Because I know Brian wants to move it on, right, to whatever he wants to move it on.
	But I got to ask this one last question.
	If you thought that it was a kindness to lie to the woman next to you about how pretty you actually thought she was, would you?
	No.
	What's the benefit of telling you?
	Hang on, going around the table.
	If you thought it was a kindness to lie to the woman next to you about her looks, even if you didn't think she actually looked that good, would you do it?
	No.
	No.
	I never lie.
	Actually, when I work with women, I tell them, you look good.
	Hang on, can we get the answers, though?
	Right into the mic or you guys tell CSI.
	Starting with you, we'll go around.
	I said no.
	I said no as well.
	No.
	No.
	I would never lie to a woman.
	They need to hear the truth.
	No.
	Once in a while.
	Yes, once in a while.
	For me, the definition of beauty is not the hour.
	So, sorry.
	In front of men, it's first of all the look.
	After it, your beauty.
	They don't see your inside.
	They pick women based on your look and your elegance and how you carry yourself.
	Everything is visual.
	That's why women, it's successful to do injections and all that, because women sell themselves visually first of all.
	So it's a lie to say no.
	Because when a man sees you, he doesn't see your personality.
	He sees how you look first.
	I think it's hard to just.
	That shit looks terrible.
	Right.
	I'm sorry.
	I know it's your job or whatever.
	No, no, but I want to.
	Brian, I want to acknowledge you with something, and I'll show you after pictures.
	I have a lot of men that I injected to.
	And now the most popular thing is to do things natural.
	I can show you girls that you would never guess that they injected.
	In America, unfortunately, everybody do the same courses and they give them like crazy cheekbones, ducky lips, crazy Botox eyes that go like pointed really, really there.
	So this is the norm here.
	If you go to other places, they don't inject like that.
	But is it those people?
	And I'm sure you, as a person who is a licensed injector, wouldn't be saying that because it's a great promotion for your business.
	Exactly, I'm honest.
	You can inject it as long as you're the one doing the injecting.
	I had, listen, I injected myself and I hate what I, some of the stuff I injected.
	We could totally tell, by the way.
	Listen, it's okay.
	I'm not offended by that.
	I hated what I injected to myself.
	What procedures do you have?
	I didn't do let's do not just injections, but all plastic surgery procedures.
	I didn't do plastic surgery.
	I did injections.
	You don't have fake boobs?
	Yeah, only my boobs.
	But I didn't do any plastic surgery in my face, just injected.
	What else, Maddie?
	I did my nose.
	There's nothing with the nose.
	I injected my own nose.
	I can show you.
	I injected my nose because I specialize with noses.
	You have a BBL.
	Just a little bit.
	No BBL?
	Who?
	You got a BBL?
	You know, you could.
	It's so different.
	My boobs, yes, but I'm.
	Oh, okay.
	I thought you said you did.
	BBL is butt.
	No, no.
	Yeah, I know.
	I asked her the boobs.
	But I had huge boobs before I had my son.
	After I had my son, they dropped to my knees, so I had to reduce them and put implants.
	There's also people always ignore the fact that you can get fillers for your backside, too.
	People always forget that.
	It's not just.
	But in America, it's not allowed to do fillers, too.
	But Cosmetic procedure to my mind to the booty.
	No, fat transfer?
	No, I can even show you in the bathroom.
	You could see it in the middle.
	But thank you.
	It's a compliment because I really wanted to do it and I didn't do it because I didn't want to look ridiculous.
	Right.
	That's good.
	Thanks.
	Wouldn't you say that?
	Actually, I have a lot of cellulite and it's fluffy.
	It's not even that nice really.
	I would like to just point out also that there's no possible way that you can rate yourself the prettiest girl at the table and then rate the girl next to you as pretty as you are and then have the position that you would not lie to another girl out of kindness.
	I just want to let you know that it's just an objective truth.
	Not you, not you.
	I'm talking to the gal in black.
	Right?
	It's a logical impossibility.
	I'm just pointing that out.
	Yeah, I think it's just regarding the honesty.
	I think what are the benefits of being honest about that?
	I weigh the pros and cons of the truth I decide to hit people with.
	And I'm sure there's nobody in this room or on this panel, including yourself with all due respect that is 100% always honest with people no matter what.
	Even if it will give them a reality check about their looks.
	I just don't think it's always necessary.
	But I respect your perspective on it.
	I get that.
	And it is better to be honest, but at the same time, like, what are the pros and cons?
	You know, it's not that beneficial, I guess.
	So the thing is, is like, okay, fair enough.
	But let me just ask you this directly.
	Right?
	Just between me and you, right?
	And we'll get the most on.
	Will you be honest with this answer?
	Well, let's see.
	They all fucking lied, right?
	I mean, they all lied.
	When they were pointing at the girl next to him and rating them, they were lying to every single one.
	It wasn't basically everyone except the blonde was lying the entire time, weren't they?
	Who?
	About the rating?
	He wasn't lying.
	She wasn't lying to me.
	I really do think she's an eight.
	No, no, no.
	Maybe Madison wasn't.
	But like every other girl.
	I did a lying.
	They weren't lying, weren't they?
	Can you say your actual question part of that again?
	What is your question?
	Wasn't pretty much every girl on that panel, as they were rating the person next to them, minus the blonde in the back in Madison, lying?
	Not necessarily.
	Not necessarily.
	I mean, what do you think?
	So you are asking my objective, my opinion on everybody's looks, ultimately, is what you're saying.
	Like, do I think everybody is less attractive than they think?
	That they were not telling the truth when they were rating.
	I don't think every single person wasn't.
	I think perhaps some people fluffed the numbers.
	Like, you know, you're just going to be.
	Yeah, which ones?
	I'm not going to answer that.
	Hey, Andrew, Andrew, Andrew, Andrew, darling, why don't you answer that?
	Why don't you answer that for us?
	Here, I'm going to ask you.
	Okay, okay, I will.
	I'll answer it.
	But I want you to promise that after I do, you will.
	Is that fair?
	Andrew.
	Let's do this quick.
	Sure, let's go.
	Wait, wait.
	Can you answer it if I do?
	Sure, but everyone needs to repeat their ratings because I don't remember.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay, I just.
	Or if you remember, then you go ahead and do it.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Like, rate them myself.
	We'll start from the right going left.
	Okay, so first girl lied about the girl to her left.
	Girl to her left lied about the girl to her left.
	I didn't lie.
	Blonde.
	Blonde did not lie about Madison.
	Madison did not lie about you.
	You lied about the redhead next to you.
	That's what I think.
	She's a bad.
	That's my official statement.
	Now, you go ahead.
	I lost right hand.
	She's blonde.
	Anyway, I don't remember everyone.
	Ash blonde.
	I don't remember everyone's ratings.
	I said that before you started, so I can't tell you.
	Okay, well, the ratings were a girl in black said that she's a nine, said the girl next to her is a nine.
	Can we just start with that?
	Yeah, I think that's incorrect.
	Okay, do you think that she was not being honest?
	Well, therefore, yes.
	No, okay.
	Sorry, I just want to say that men do this all the time, too, though.
	No, they don't.
	Nope, we don't.
	In fact, if we see a guy who's better looking than us, we make sure to call him ugly just to keep his ass humble.
	I mean, I've been in situations where they're like, oh, yeah, I have a friend.
	He's really cute.
	I'll bring him for you.
	And then that's different than what I introduced.
	Wait, but that's actually, you're saying they'll bring a friend who's cute.
	No, they'll say he's like really cute and then he'll show up and he's not cute at all.
	But so do you think it could potentially be when you made a determination that this man is not cute, that he's actually your looks equivalent, but because you have an overinflated sense of your own physical attractiveness, he's actually your equivalent, but you think you're more attractive than you actually are?
	I don't think this person was equivalent.
	He's kind of.
	I want to see a photo of this guy.
	He was on the bigger side for sure.
	Oh, he was big.
	Okay.
	Well, I mean, sorry, I got distracted by 20 different things going on.
	Okay, so you think that men will overestimate their physical appearance to the same at the same frequency as women?
	No, definitely not.
	Hold on.
	Let her finish.
	I'm not asking you the question.
	I'm asking it to her.
	Let her answer.
	You got to speak into the mic.
	I just said I think men do it too.
	They do it.
	Sure, they do it too, but women do it way more.
	And I'll tell you why.
	Here's the difference.
	I'll grant to you that there are some men who are delusional.
	I'll grant to you that.
	The difference is, is that men get rejected on the front end.
	So if I step, if me, if I step to a Victoria's secret model, I'm getting an instant rejection.
	Instant rejection.
	I can't get anything from a girl who's like, in terms of her attractiveness, is more than me, typically.
	She might be, there could be a specific girl who is maybe she's attracted to, it could be something else.
	My toxic personality.
	She could be attracted to status, money, whatever.
	Looks-wise, if I'm just a normal dude and I step to a girl who's more attractive than me, it ain't happening.
	I'm not getting a date.
	I'm not getting a conversation.
	I'm not getting, I'm certainly not getting casual sex.
	As a woman, if you're a six and you step to a nine and you make yourself sexually available to him, he'll have sex with you.
	It never works the opposite way around.
	Like, oh, I'm going to make myself sexually available to a girl who's three points more attractive than me.
	She'll fuck me once or twice, but then that's it.
	In order for a woman to sleep with a man, he needs to be at least physically attractive enough for her to consider being in a relationship with him.
	For men to sleep with women, men will sleep with women that they would immediately disqualify from a relationship just on the basis of her appearance, but they'll welcome the immediate and easy access to sex.
	And so for this reason, women will be able to sleep with men who have higher status, who are more physically attractive, who make a lot of money.
	A 19-year-old college girl can go fuck an NFL player, can go fuck an NBA player, can fuck Drake, can fake, fake, fuck a famous musician, actor, what have you.
	Preach.
	Literally, like, you'll hear these stories, these 19-year-old college girls, fucking famous people in their DMs.
	There's not 19-year-old, like, normal-ish to decently attractive college guys who are getting hit up by fucking Taylor Swift and Rihanna.
	Two taken people.
	Well, I mean, if whenever they were single, right?
	So there's just this differential here.
	So what ends up happening is because you have sexual access to men that would never be in a relationship with you, but they'll fuck you, you'll think, well, if I can fuck a guy who's a nine, I must be a nine.
	So you think, okay, well, but that's not, that's not your league.
	So you'll think, okay, well, I can frequently sleep with men who are eights and nines.
	That's not your league, though.
	Your league is not the men who you can fuck.
	Your league is the men who you can get long-term commitment from and/or marriage.
	And so, but what ends up happening is if you start getting sexual attention from these men, and some of these men, granted, will act as if they're interested in a long-term relationship with you.
	But they're not, in order to even further, aside from the differential in physical attractiveness, in order to further their aims of having just easy access to sex with you, they might even kind of lie and say that, yeah, I'm open to a long-term relationship, blah, blah, blah.
	Some might be honest, though.
	Some might be honest and just keep things casual.
	But you might still even entertain that really hot, attractive guy just because he's unattractive and you want to fuck the hot dude.
	And also, I mean, hookup culture is also a culprit here.
	But so I guess what I'm getting at is the difference is: is like, so you women will get some degree of attention from men who are more attractive than you.
	You'll get sexual attention.
	You typically won't get long-term romantic attention, but you'll at least get sexual attention.
	Whereas, like I said, if I step to a girl who's a nine, instant rejection, whereas women, you get rejected on the back end.
	When I say rejected on the back end, I mean two weeks.
	You date a guy for two weeks and then it's done.
	But it's, I don't know if that's the case with you necessarily because you kind of are over them too.
	But like, you'll hook up the guy once, then he'll never talk to you again.
	Whereas for men, it's like, we will continue.
	As soon as I step to a girl, want sex, ew.
	Not that I would approach that way, but like, you can't just slang dick.
	That, like, girls, you can slang pussy.
	But guys can't just go up and to like a chick that's out of our league and try to slang dick.
	Right.
	The girl will be like, eh, instantly.
	I can't even talk to her for five minutes.
	Ugh, you're beneath me.
	But as a chick, it's like, eh, she's kind of mid, but the pussy's probably, okay, all right, you know, we'll fuck for a couple of weeks, whatever.
	I'm just putting you on the game.
	I'm giving you some game here.
	I feel like I'm here for a reason.
	I want to add something regarding to what Andrew said before.
	Okay.
	When he mentioned about my face, I'm actually writing a book that's coming in about a month or two.
	It's in editing.
	And I was writing a whole chapter about it.
	If I knew what I know today about myself and about injections and all this and not influence when I was actually learning the injections and everything, I would never inject myself.
	Actually, I stopped doing it and I said that when we started the podcast, you can see my forehead.
	No more Botox and I'm wishing to my face too.
	I know, don't dismiss what I'm saying.
	It's disrespectful.
	Well, I mean, I was in the middle of having an on-topic conversation, and then it was like, me, It's not me, me, me, me.
	Okay.
	You dismiss what I said almost through the whole.
	Okay, so, anyways, back to the.
	How is it not me, If you look at my book and everything that I've done.
	No, but I didn't mean it from a me perspective.
	I'm saying it's not what I meant.
	I meant that any girl here could be doing what I did when I was a little bit younger.
	There's more of that me, me, me.
	It's not what I mean.
	It's like you guys.
	Well, I mean, you can roll your eyes, but he's right.
	You did cut him off in the mid-conference.
	Okay, but it's not my intention.
	I just wanted to give an example.
	I'm not happy with that.
	That's my point.
	Me?
	Me, me.
	Anyways.
	Okay, you can laugh all you want, but the girls here got what I'm saying.
	Okay, so back to this thing really quick.
	One of the other differentials here.
	So can I ask the ladies a question?
	If you know that you can sleep with a guy, do you also know with certainty that you can get him into a relationship?
	God, no.
	No, you don't have certainty.
	Like, you're like, I could definitely sleep with this guy, but is it always equally apparent that you can lock him down for a relationship?
	No.
	No, and that's not even a thought going through my head.
	You guys, instead of shaking your heads, you have to say.
	No, I'm sorry.
	Because we have audio over here.
	With sleeping with a guy, actually, it's not going to be a relationship.
	If you wait, maybe you have the chance to do a relationship.
	It only worked once.
	In my case, yes.
	No, okay, but not in like.
	Individual case.
	In general, yes.
	Yeah.
	The question is: if you sleep with the guy, you could get him into the relationship.
	Yeah, if you sleep with him early on.
	Is it a guarantee that you can like pretty close?
	When I was younger, I used to think that way.
	Not anymore.
	Okay.
	So here's the other differential.
	As a guy, if I can sleep with a girl, there's a pretty good chance I can get that girl in a relationship.
	But I don't think women can say the same thing.
	Yeah, it's true.
	Like almost.
	As a guy, if you can sleep with a girl, there's a very high chance you can get her in a relationship.
	That's true.
	Can't say the same really about women.
	I mean, women get attached much faster.
	Much, much faster than men.
	But again, you're coming from the sense that it's the guy trying to pursue the girl in this case, right?
	Like, he thinks if he can sleep with her, he can get her into a relationship.
	Well, it would be both directions.
	So if I'm pursuing a girl and she sleeps with me, I'm very confident.
	Like, and let's, I do want to remove like one night stands from this.
	Like, because, I mean, that's its own, like, one-night stands, you meet at a party, you hook up.
	Like, if you meet on a, you know, it, in on a dating app or whatever, whatever it is.
	I mean, we could even include this too.
	But if I'm pursuing her or she's pursuing me, if I sleep with her, regardless of the direction of interest, initial interest, in either scenario, I can get her in a relationship.
	In fact, if she's pursuing me, the chance of me getting her in a relationship is orders of magnitude higher.
	Whereas if the guy's pursuing you, I would.
	I feel like I would.
	Is it?
	Hmm.
	It's actually probably a little similar.
	Like, if the guy's pursuing the woman versus you pursuing the man, there's still probably a higher percentage chance that you can get the guy who's pursuing you into a relationship.
	But in any case, it goes both ways.
	It's very high for both.
	I feel like it's more likely if a girl makes the first move.
	I don't know if it's like the same kind of thing, but if a girl makes the first move, I feel like it's more likely that that relationship will go.
	Maybe not go somewhere, but like it'll work out in whatever way it's meant to.
	Because the girl's more interested, you mean?
	I feel like I get that.
	Anyways, so going to last thing on the rating thing.
	Will you be more physically attractive in 10 years?
	Starting with you.
	What does that mean?
	You think you'll be better looking in 10 years?
	Like, compare.
	Okay, so are you better looking now, or will you be better looking in 10 years' time?
	No.
	No, I'm in my prime.
	Yeah, probably not.
	No?
	You gotta speak.
	Sorry.
	Er, Jan, or no.
	I think I'm peeking soon.
	I think I'm not gonna look better in 10 years.
	No.
	No.
	Yes.
	You're gonna look better at 57 versus 47.
	Absolutely.
	So I'd say for me, you know, it is not just the physical look.
	He talked about the internal.
	Yeah, we're talking about physical.
	I mean, the confidence.
	It's just about the confidence, how I actually feel about myself as a person.
	You know, so it is like Andrew said, you know, I'm talking about your looks.
	Yeah, I'm talking about your looks.
	Physical?
	Yeah, you're gonna feel better, but maybe the world doesn't feel like that.
	I would feel very confident about who I am.
	Whether it goes for looks or internal beauty.
	It's not what he asks.
	Yes.
	So I answer yes.
	Okay.
	Let's see here.
	We have more notes.
	Going to.
	Wait, we did that.
	Lizette, did you provide any pre-show notes?
	I don't think so, right?
	No, okay.
	Hold on.
	Avery, okay.
	Avery, getting to Avery finally.
	When you turn 21, you went on a date.
	Oh, did you tell us about this?
	The 30-year-old?
	Oh, yeah.
	Did you tell us about that?
	I don't think so.
	What's the story?
	Okay.
	Or do you want me to read it?
	No, I'll let you tell it.
	Go ahead.
	So when I turned 21, I had just gotten out of my long-term relationship, my three-year relationship.
	So then I made a Tinder for the first time.
	And the first date I went out was with a guy who was like 32, maybe.
	And he picked me up in his Tesla.
	I'd never been in a Tesla before.
	And he just kind of like drove around.
	He wanted to show me how the Tesla worked.
	He's like, oh, yeah, I see this is.
	And I'm like, oh, that's cool, I guess.
	And, you know, then we went to a bar or whatever, got a drink.
	And I was like, you know, I mean, it's like the first drink.
	So I'm like, I can like pay for my own drink.
	So then we go to another bar.
	And he orders us like these shrimps.
	And he's like, oh, no, I got it.
	Like, it's okay.
	And I'm like, okay.
	And so then I'm trying to get him to take me back to my dorm, but he just like won't take no franchise.
	So he drives around for like 30 more minutes.
	Finally, I'm like, I have a test tomorrow.
	Like I really need to go back.
	Takes me back to my dorm.
	And I'm trying to get out of the car, but then he tries to like grab me for a kiss.
	And I'm like, oh no, like, would you be okay with the hug?
	Awkward.
	And he got super pissed at me.
	And so then I was like, okay, well, I think I'm going to go.
	So then I got out of the car and I was walking and he rolled down the window and he was like, I hoped you liked the fucking shrimp.
	He drove off.
	And then he tried to like message me after and say, yeah, it was a really great day.
	But I didn't respond, obviously.
	Damn.
	I have some thoughts on that.
	Before I do, guys, TTS is now 69.
	If you want to get any TTSs in, we've lowered the threshold a little bit.
	Actually, I'll leave that up.
	So, okay, he was all butthurt because you turned him down.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's weird.
	I mean, just you got to take the L gracefully, you know?
	If she's not into it, she's not feeling it.
	Just.
	What do you?
	It's just kind of weird.
	It's weird when guys get mad.
	Like, you got, look, you're going to part of dating is rejection.
	Like, you just got to take the L. You know, did you enjoy the shrimp, though?
	Was it good to choose?
	No, it wasn't.
	It wasn't even good shrimp.
	Fuck that guy.
	It wasn't even good.
	He had all the shrimp.
	I had like a brain.
	I didn't like it.
	Old shrimp.
	Shrimp was bad.
	Yeah.
	And you said he fetishized your ethnicity?
	Yeah.
	Are you Latino?
	I am, but I'm also Native American.
	So when I told him about it, he was just like, oh, really?
	He's like, wow, that's like really cool.
	I love that.
	Like, that's really hot.
	Just like.
	Was he trying to call him?
	So, what he should have done is been like, oh, God, that's cringe, gross.
	Ew.
	Colonizer.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, he was a white guy.
	So I was like, wow, what do you mean?
	He's white.
	That's funny.
	It's hilarious.
	Trying to colonize it.
	What?
	I had to pull up my pants.
	Relax.
	You're trying to colonize them?
	Anyways, wait, so...
	But yeah, I mean, like, what you said, like, didn't, it doesn't sound that bad, really.
	Like, if he was like, oh, that's cool.
	Yeah, was there more?
	Like, did he want to put on a headdress and, like, let's get to business?
	I mean, I know he, like, he kept going on about it, bringing up throughout the night, and I just thought it was a weird thing to focus on, like, somebody's, like, race or ethnicity, that being like being interested in your culture.
	You know what I mean?
	No, I mean, he wasn't, like, interested in it.
	He was just like, oh, like, that's really hot.
	And I'm like, that's a weird thing to say.
	It's hot.
	Yeah.
	He said, it's hot that you're Latina or Native American?
	Native American.
	Native American?
	I don't know.
	Maybe, I don't know.
	So, like, what did he say specifically?
	That was strange.
	Just that it was hot?
	Yeah, I mean, I think he probably said other things.
	I just don't really remember.
	It was a long time ago.
	It was weird because he was white.
	No, that's not the reason.
	I just think it's weird when someone is like, oh, I like.
	Hyper-focuses on that.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Trust me, I had dwarves.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's weird because I had the exact opposite thing.
	I was dating this Native American girl and she was really into the fact that I was white.
	Yeah, she was like...
	She wanted you to colonize her.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, dude.
	Yeah, I felt uncomfortable.
	Yeah, but Brian, isn't it super weird that she was fetishizing you?
	I was being fetishized.
	You were being fetishized.
	I was being fetishized.
	Fetishizing you.
	No, actually, it was kind of nice.
	I like to be fetishized.
	Wait, it didn't upset you?
	Wait, maybe you would have kissed her.
	Are you saying it didn't upset you?
	That you don't have retroactive cope about this?
	No, no, no, no.
	That seems good.
	It's nice, you know.
	I don't know if you've seen.
	Andrew, have you seen American Pie?
	The film?
	So at the very end, after.
	Oh, fuck, it's a almost 30-year-old movie.
	I'm going to just spoil it later.
	All right, Jim, he just hooked up with the band geek, and he wakes up and she's gone.
	And he was like, I've been used?
	I've been used.
	That's how it feels like a guy.
	Like, oh, sweet, she used me for sex.
	Sweet.
	It's terrible.
	It's awful.
	Fetishize me.
	I don't know how.
	Just kidding.
	Well, Pandit donated $100.
	Care about it.
	Women are disgusted by agreeableness.
	Her date would have agreed with anything she said about herself.
	Brixon knows that it's always the girls that he disagrees with that stare the hardest.
	No, that's not true at all, bro.
	Bro, you think I have these like fucking eight, six, seven-hour arguments, and the girls are like dying to like fuck afterwards?
	Fuck no.
	They're like, get me away from this toxic, this toxic masculinity, bro.
	What?
	I said, what's your roster?
	Huh?
	What's your roster?
	What do you mean?
	What are you talking about?
	I'm a one-girl kind of guy.
	Okay.
	Or a good Christian girl.
	I only got eyes for one, like, if I, you know, one girl, you know?
	I saw that podcast that the girl was pursuing you.
	Oh.
	I couldn't stop watching it.
	It was so hilarious.
	The one that she said, she talks about her.
	Layla.
	Oh my god.
	I couldn't believe that she was like me.
	All right, not sure.
	Yeah, there's plenty, dude.
	There's lots of good girls out there, you know?
	You got to get out of the.
	You can't meet them at the club or the bar or Tinder.
	I mean, there's good girls on Tinder, too.
	Meet them IRL.
	They're rare.
	Supermarket.
	Do you think that because of so many applications out there, dating is harder now compared to like 10 years ago?
	Yes.
	Or is it easier for men?
	For the average man, it's a lot harder.
	You were dating tendency to.
	They're easier to have sex, but way easier for like the top tier dudes to just run through chicks.
	Way easier for those guys.
	But the ones who actually look in substance, it is a lot harder.
	It is, exactly.
	I think it makes it a lot harder.
	I think it's harder.
	Wait, going back to what's it called?
	Where was I going with this?
	Something about.
	I was going to bring back up natural body supremacist.
	I'll get to that in a bit.
	Okay.
	Wait, so okay, go, okay, back to Avery.
	No, that was it.
	That was good.
	All right, good job, Avery.
	All right, Lizette, what you got for us?
	Give us something good.
	Isn't it good?
	What do you want to talk about?
	You want to talk about being a Swifty?
	Is that what you want to talk about?
	You think I give teeth?
	No, I do not think so.
	I don't think so.
	Yeah, he said.
	Well, because he said, like, isn't it a thing?
	Swifties give teeth.
	And he's like, you look like a Swifty.
	I'm like, what the hell?
	I thought she did the hawk thing.
	She did?
	Well, she said it, and you said over there.
	Huh?
	Wow, that was.
	Oh, yeah, the hawked.
	That's when he kind of changed the video.
	Wait, but let's actually, I do want to deep dive into that.
	Did we play the video last time?
	It's in the draw.
	We don't need to play it.
	You guys know what it is.
	Everyone here has seen it, right?
	Which one?
	I don't know.
	Okay, pull it up.
	What are you talking about?
	I don't know.
	It's in the Dropbox folder, isn't it, Nick?
	Pretty sure you pulled it up last show.
	Did you ever rate us as well?
	No.
	No.
	I'm not going to because I'm not a toxic misogynist like Andrew is.
	Just kidding.
	Misogynist.
	Just kidding.
	Oh my gosh, way not.
	He's not a misogynist.
	I do have a really embarrassing story that I'm totally willing to share.
	Yeah, let's see.
	About someone I dated, which I don't know why I thought it was a good idea.
	Let's go.
	When I was, I was 18.
	Yeah, 18.
	They were 17.
	Again, don't know why I thought that was a good idea.
	So they were a year younger.
	Wait, you were 18 and they were 17?
	Uh-huh.
	Hold on.
	Wait, hold on.
	Oh, Nar.
	Oh, Nor.
	Don't do it.
	It's not, you can't even.
	I can't see it.
	I thought it was a megaphone.
	Me too.
	But this person was a very, at the time, devote Orthodox Christian.
	So he was like a no-no until marriage.
	Wow.
	And I don't know, again, what's going through my mind?
	I don't even mention this to people.
	But I was very much on the, you know what, this is an opportunity for me to like try or for me to experience a relationship in which it's like completely kind of emotional base, you know, type.
	No, no physical type.
	But yeah, after like a month, maybe week three, I was like, bro, this sucks.
	You needed a de-appointment.
	Well, it was just kind of awkward too.
	We'd be having like makeout sessions, and he kind of just like moved me on, like kind of to the side when he got a bonus.
	But it's nice.
	It's cute.
	Okay.
	But yeah, and I felt really, or I just felt super bad because he was really, really nice.
	He was super duper sweet.
	He was super duper sweet.
	And then, yeah, eventually my sister got pregnant.
	By him?
	My sister ended up He banged bang donated $69 I love Andrew But he is the whole reason I would never let My girlfriend on this show He would eat her alive and she would end up crying.
	Bro is too smart.
	Talk about abortion.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Bing.
	In the middle missing point.
	Yeah, so I kind of used that as a like I have to focus on my family for like the next couple of months.
	Like I'm really sorry.
	I'm just not going to be available like I am now.
	Is your sister married?
	No, it was an unexpected pregnancy.
	Are they still?
	My Orthodox brother out there did not falter.
	Is that what you're saying?
	He did not falter.
	So hold on.
	He took the course and he did not go through with the deal.
	He did not.
	He did not, which is why I don't even like really consider it.
	Or yeah, why I don't think to mention it.
	He stayed strong.
	He stayed strong.
	You could not steal his.
	He stayed strong.
	Would Brian marry if he found a woman that could give two-dimensional BJs and didn't mind his dunlap?
	Your belly done lapped over.
	I don't get it.
	Wait, didn't it matter?
	He didn't mind his earlier BJs.
	I don't get the Dunlap part, though.
	Your belly done lapped over.
	I'm confused.
	But this person did end up, you know, or like years later, because he did give me some kind of shit when he found out I wasn't.
	I'm confused.
	This is the same person that I'm.
	Why are you confused?
	So this is the Orthodox Christian you were with?
	He was upset that you weren't a virgin?
	Yeah.
	He was just like, oh, it's something that I need to consider.
	Wait, while you were still dating him?
	Yeah.
	Again.
	This guy's fucking awesome.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Hold on.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	So then years later, he did come back and we caught up and he did apologize for basically giving me kind of a bit of a bit of shit for it or yeah, for feeling some type of way towards it.
	And he eventually, yeah, did leave the church.
	Or Orthodox is very, very strict.
	Yeah, they're like more strict than Jehovah's Witnesses.
	And I grew up as one, so I would know.
	Okay.
	That's good.
	Strict, how?
	How are the Orthodox more strict than Jehovah's Witnesses?
	They were just.
	This is a different topic.
	Well, there's Orthodox and there is like non-denominational.
	If you compare them, it's, you know, I was born as Orthodox.
	And I was.
	Yeah, I know, but I'll be, you know, if you're just a baby in an Eastern European country, you're born Orthodox.
	That doesn't mean nothing.
	And now I belong to a non-denominational that my husband introduced me to.
	So it's just the way the connection is just more understandable.
	It's easier.
	It inspires you to.
	Brent donated $69.
	To offend a strong individual, tell them a lie.
	To offend a weak individual, tell them the truth.
	I like that.
	I haven't heard that before.
	That's a good one.
	So, yeah, back to the – how would they be stricter than Jehovah's Witnesses?
	Or I just are not necessarily stricter.
	I just felt like they were more judgmental, I guess.
	Let's not linger.
	Let's not.
	Yeah, but anyway, yeah, he did end up coming back.
	Apologizing for that, but I just always nice So, Nick, why don't you do the Huck Taw thing?
	Then we'll do the bow video because he was asking about the marriage thing.
	Do you know how his life turned up?
	If he is in the military, I think.
	Yeah.
	In the military?
	Hey, Huck Tua.
	What is this?
	What's one move in bed that makes a man go crazy every time?
	Ah, you gotta give him that huck too and spit on that honey.
	Oh my god.
	I've genuinely, that's the first time I've seen that.
	Yeah.
	She's going viral, I guess.
	She's going viral.
	Imagine her parents.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Now that it took so long to get it, I don't even remember what I was.
	Let me guess what school she went to, Old Miss.
	I don't know.
	I feel like that's a preschool teacher.
	Oh, yeah.
	Is that a call?
	Yeah.
	You want to bow next?
	She's a preschool teacher.
	She's a preschool teacher.
	Oh, I remember why I wanted to pull it up.
	I don't know why people are going so crazy about it.
	Like, the actual, like, that doesn't do anything.
	Like, why are guys.
	Oh, my God.
	Hawk to avoid it.
	Maybe that's why it's going viral.
	It does nothing.
	Because guys are like, I couldn't hear the current thing.
	What did she say?
	She said, hawk to a.
	Oh, my God.
	Basically, she spits on the tea.
	She said, spit on that thing.
	Spit on it.
	Like for blow shit for she's giving a blowjob.
	Oh my gosh.
	But she's like making it like an elaborate.
	Like you got to really spit on that thing.
	You know, like this is southern.
	I don't know.
	Oh my gosh.
	It wouldn't do it for me.
	You know?
	It wouldn't do it for me.
	If you like crazy girls, it would, but you're not.
	So you're saying a guy is somewhere attracted to that and sharing that video?
	Slazy guys love more women, for sure.
	Who is making it viral?
	Oh, it's probably dudes.
	It's dudes.
	So that's where the world is going.
	Woman spits on the mic and guys.
	This is the kind of woman I want, though.
	Go ahead, Nick.
	Line that up.
	I'm intrigued.
	Boom.
	What did she do?
	Bow.
	It started a little late, but that's okay.
	All right.
	Look, she's running, doing my laundry.
	Yep.
	This is my girlfriend, by the way.
	Are you sure?
	Look, I get home from my podcast after a long day of podcast.
	My dinner is ready.
	She's got a beer ready for me.
	She opens the beer.
	Attentive.
	My needs are being met.
	She stirs my noodles.
	You know, it's great.
	Dinner's ready.
	Attentive.
	One more time.
	Let's see the bow.
	Boom.
	Look at the bow.
	Full respect bow.
	That's.
	Brian, honestly.
	Get out of here with the hawk taw.
	I want to bow.
	Huh?
	Is this done through artificial intelligence?
	That one?
	That particular one.
	No, that's horrible.
	That is a real woman.
	I bet she can't even squat the bar.
	I'm not sure what she is.
	She looks Korean.
	To be honest.
	So would you guys bow for your man?
	Yes.
	Would you bow for your man?
	What man?
	If you had a what did you have?
	Oh, sorry.
	Oh my god.
	I'm about to ruin it.
	Sorry, Andrew.
	How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
	I didn't.
	Or lunch.
	Is the volume boosted?
	At least you said it right.
	A lot of people.
	I just want to make sure you didn't.
	I don't think I understand what you meant by that.
	Well, no, I just want to make sure you didn't have breakfast this morning.
	What's the...
	I don't...
	I'm just asking.
	I don't know what breakfast is clarifying.
	Is breakfast codeword for something?
	No, no, I'm just asking the question.
	No, I had like a really late lunch, but I had breakfast dishy stuff for lunch.
	I had like Greek yoga.
	Oh my God, who the hell cares?
	You asked.
	That's all.
	A underscore warzone donated $69.
	To the people on the panel for someone with crippling IRL social anxiety and a low opinion of themselves, I view myself as a four.
	What advice would you give to try and start any sort of relationship?
	Are you a man or a woman, first of all?
	I mean, in a war zone.
	Work on yourself first.
	You could be a chick.
	Level up.
	Work on yourself.
	I would say, I mean, one of the benefits of dating apps is that it sort of avoids you having to actually go up to somebody and face a potential like upfront.
	It's very easy.
	Like to just get unmatched or rejected on a dating app is like nothing compared to an in-person rejection.
	So, I mean, you're probably going to have to do dating apps, I guess.
	Don't pursue.
	Let people pursue you.
	I think it's.
	Well, if that's a man, if you're a man, you're fucked.
	He said any sort of relationship.
	Follow that advice.
	So I think for myself, like with my social anxiety, I started practicing kind of talking to like strangers that I had to talk to.
	So if I was at a store, I'd try to get at least one sentence in an addition to hello or things.
	Yeah.
	Actually, let me revise crippling IRL social anxiety.
	A war zone.
	Do not be fucking beholden to this invention in your mind.
	You have created an identity for yourself as somebody who has crippling IRL social anxiety.
	Everything is within your realm.
	Everything is within your grasp.
	So don't allow yourself to be identified for the entirety of your life as I have crippling IRL social anxiety.
	You must overcome.
	You can do a progressive, what's the term?
	Progressive self-work.
	No, no, it's progressive.
	What's the term for when you put yourself in a situation?
	Empathy?
	No.
	What's this specific?
	No, there's a specific term for it.
	Progressive.
	Nick, pull up the chat so I can see it.
	Somebody in the chat will have it.
	No one's exposure.
	I think it's exposure.
	Yeah, just keep doing it.
	And progressive exposure?
	I think there's a different word for it.
	There's a different word for it, but yeah, the chat's got a couple ideas.
	Just go to the gym.
	Just lift weights.
	Lift smart.
	Dude, don't be beholden.
	Don't be fucking beholden to this.
	Just sack up.
	It's all in your head.
	Or just use dating apps.
	Fuck it.
	Daniel.
	Or just go ahead.
	A lot of people have to present themselves the right way, first of all, to get their right attention.
	I mean, to show the values of who they are, what they bring to their relationship.
	Oh, come on.
	No, I was just, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I was agreeing.
	And then get attention and then talking on the video.
	Get more comfortable.
	Then go on a date.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Would you do a bow?
	No.
	You wouldn't bow for your boyfriend, even?
	No.
	Husband?
	He's like, I want to see you bow.
	Maybe.
	Right now.
	If you took me to the ballet and we danced, I'd bow to him.
	It's more like a curtsy, but okay.
	What about you?
	You've been dating a guy for three years or whatever.
	Wait, wait, why would someone take you to the ballet and you would dance with them?
	Yeah, I didn't know that.
	That was awesome in question.
	You know, you don't go to the ballet to dance with people.
	That's not how that works.
	That's not how ballets work.
	What?
	You don't join the ballet.
	You go to a ball.
	They don't like boss got a ballet disco ball or anything.
	I guess if he would bow back and like you just bow back.
	Because he doesn't respect me or because of what reason.
	Yeah, because they do add up a res like out of respect.
	So as long as I gotta bow back, but if they're just like bow to me, bitch, I mean, yeah, no, it would not be, I like, it would not be a bow back.
	You just hit the bow.
	Yeah, hell no.
	No?
	You wouldn't do it?
	If he got on his knee again, maybe.
	Yeah, no.
	If there's no reciprocation of that, then no.
	No reciprocation.
	Okay, I'll hold on.
	Let me write that down.
	Reciprocation.
	Reciprocation.
	Well, because it's, again, out of like respect type thing.
	Okay.
	So, okay, I'll get everybody's answers, but I want to come back to reciprocation.
	I think the most sexy thing in a relationship is to bow to a man and make him your king.
	I love that.
	There you go.
	I said it to you.
	Hold on.
	Jackson MILF.
	Thanks.
	Nick.
	Sorry.
	I bowed on stream yesterday.
	I didn't.
	Wow.
	Nice.
	We should have a donation trigger.
	Like, everybody has to bow.
	I did it for $50.
	Oh, my God.
	I said, if someone sends in $50, I'll do it.
	All right, what about you?
	Would you bow?
	I would be honored to.
	She would be honored.
	Okay.
	Yeah, if it was important for my man, absolutely.
	Of course.
	It's very important for me.
	Very important for me.
	So, wait, you went into it?
	It needs to be reciprocated?
	Well, like, from my understanding.
	From my understanding, it's out of respect type thing.
	So if they're just like bow to me, then it's like, do not respect me.
	What if it's more playful?
	Like, let me see a bow.
	Bow, bow.
	If it's like, bend it a.
	What if it was.
	Let me give you a mobile.
	Bent me over.
	What the?
	Then that's a different type of bow.
	Yo, she's a low-key freak over here.
	She's a freak, right?
	Somebody got a match.
	She's hardcore, not a swifty.
	Hardcore, not a swifty.
	She's like a sexy woman.
	She's not a toothy.
	Hell no.
	Okay, so you said reciprocation, though.
	I'm just curious for you then.
	Should the guy pay for the first date?
	Oh, balls.
	Not necessarily.
	I feel like I.
	I feel like if I went wait.
	No, I will say this.
	I feel like I'd offer to split on the first date for sure.
	And I feel like I don't know why.
	I feel like I'd kind of interpret it.
	Like, if they did make me split 50-50, then it maybe didn't go too well.
	But if they're like, oh, no, no, no, no, I got to hang out.
	Wait, I got a question for you.
	Have you ever had the one-night stand?
	No.
	Never?
	No.
	Have you ever hooked up with somebody the same night that you met them?
	Same day?
	Never?
	No.
	Oh, a woman.
	Sorry.
	A woman?
	Woman.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	One time.
	Okay.
	All right.
	It's just crazy to me, and here's why.
	Maybe I'm not speaking about anybody here specifically.
	When I say this bow thing, people like get really up in arms about it.
	That I want a girl to bow.
	But you will have girls who would absolutely refuse to do a bow who would like, maybe not the first date, but like second, third date.
	You will let a guy come on your face.
	Oh my god, but you don't want to do it.
	You don't want to do a little battle.
	Oh, there's no god on that.
	You don't want to let a guy do all kinds of sexual acts first, second, third date.
	She let you do it, really?
	Yeah, cool.
	Oh my god, you won't.
	You object to like the most mild milquetoast.
	Wait, what do you mean it's horrible?
	Aren't you?
	You're on OnlyFans.
	I'm on OnlyFans.
	I'm just laughing at the fact that she's saying it's facial.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	I'm just saying, ladies.
	I'm just saying.
	I've never.
	That's a horrible thing.
	Submission to a man.
	It's kind of degrading.
	I don't know.
	I think it's degrading when you let someone do it on your face.
	That has nothing to do with my conversation.
	I'm just saying, I guess I would bow.
	That's all I said.
	I don't really get that either, though.
	It's like the whole on the face.
	The whole idea is coming from poor hair.
	I don't know.
	It's degrading.
	It's disrespectful.
	Making a joke out of a joke.
	I don't know.
	You know, I just don't really.
	Miss.
	Anyways.
	Who likes bowling?
	I prefer bowling.
	But the woman to bowling.
	It's different.
	Some cultures, that's what the women do when the men come for work.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	Should I just what's every let's see?
	I need to get through a few more pre-show notes.
	I want to hear what's everybody's type.
	Give me one physical thing and one like personality type thing.
	Go ahead.
	Then I'll give you mine.
	Physical thing, a nice smile.
	And personality thing.
	Motivated.
	Physical, I'd say eyes.
	Sorry.
	Physical is eyes.
	And then what was the other thing that I have to say?
	Personality.
	Personality?
	Funny.
	I would say curly hair and like kind.
	I do love a man bun.
	Why is that so awful for you?
	A man bun.
	She likes a man bun.
	I love long curly hair.
	And funny.
	Got the jokes.
	I like, don't laugh at me.
	But I like a man who is like a really old school chauvinist, but not in a bad way.
	Like, I like that the man would tell me what to do, where to go, how to dress.
	I love it.
	Like, for me, it's the most attractive thing to be submissive to my man.
	And I don't really care about the look as long as I'm attracted to him.
	Like, tall, short, white, whatever.
	I don't care about that.
	He needs to be like a real man, like a real old school man.
	Yeah, but what about the man bun?
	To me, you ask them?
	I'm not really, I'm not really into it.
	I like short hair.
	I like rough men.
	I like hair.
	I like hair in the chest.
	I like like real, real men, you know?
	That's like, that's pretty soy jacked, right?
	That's the soy jacket.
	The man bun and the neckbeard.
	And the, you know, we just kind of point that direction.
	I feel like you said curly hair, and I just thought about the person that I dated that I was really attracted to that had curly, long, curly hair, and a man bun.
	So.
	I would say like dark features, like dark hair, dark eyes, and I like when a man knows how to control his emotions.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Strong arms, specifically.
	Forearms every time.
	And a leader, for sure.
	A leader type.
	Man who projects safety and who is capable of making decisions.
	About physical.
	I'm still really confused about this man bun thing.
	Really?
	Stuck on that.
	You're so.
	Well, who the fuck would ever be?
	Well, no, she just said curly hair.
	And then I was like, dude, I love when a guy has a curly hair man bun.
	You like an extension bun.
	I could see where like some of them look good, but I don't.
	Like very few.
	Yeah, no, there are very few, which is why when I see it, I'm like, oh, that's a nice man bun.
	Would that do it?
	That would make sense.
	Let's see.
	Okay, I'll say my preferences.
	Let's see here.
	Any race is, I'm going to give you like 10 of each here.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Any race is fine, but slight preference for Asian women and white women.
	Well, you know, I date Latinos and black women.
	I'll date an Aboriginal woman.
	I'll date a, you know, she could be, you know, why not?
	You know, no discrimination.
	I just think.
	Slight preference.
	Like, I'll date.
	I'll date any height, any height.
	She could be like 6'10.
	I'll date her.
	Maybe that's a lot of 6'10.
	I'll date 6'5.
	How about that?
	I'll date 4'7.
	Would you date no don't care?
	Huh?
	Would you date small girls?
	Yeah, 4'4'7.
	Sign me up.
	But slight preference for like shorter.
	Like shorter ones.
	Aww, you're so cute.
	Like, it's funny telling a girl who's 5'2 that they're too tall.
	That's always fun.
	Damn.
	Yeah, 5'2.
	Why is that wild?
	I'm thinking about my friend who's 5'2, and she's like, I think of her as so small, and then thinking about something that's not smaller as well.
	I'm smaller than them.
	She's too tall.
	She's too crazy.
	No, 5'2 is good.
	I like 5'2.
	I'll date any height, but not a big thing.
	Natural body supremacist.
	Sorry, but hygiene grooming, important, but strong preference, no plastic surgery.
	Okay, I understand you.
	No, don't be sorry.
	I mean, it's your preference.
	There you go.
	Yeah, I mean.
	I didn't do surgery, just injections, but I totally get weight.
	Injections too.
	So no fake, okay, no fake tits, no fake lips, no BBL, no lipo, no labia plastic, Nick, pull it up.
	What is no labia plastic?
	What is labia?
	Labia plasty.
	Okay.
	Hashtag big labia matter.
	What is that?
	It is a tragedy.
	You know what I'm talking about.
	It's a flower, I guess.
	You know what I mean?
	It's like big.
	Euclidorus.
	What the fuck?
	Euclidorus?
	Like, you date chicks, right?
	Do you have a preference?
	Oh my god, who got the guts to do it?
	Do you got preference when it comes to labia?
	Like you like the labia or what's up?
	You don't like no, sorry.
	No.
	You don't like a big labia?
	Big labia.
	Big long.
	Wow, I feel like I'm never like.
	Let me like.
	I recently do that again.
	It's like curtains.
	I recently, I took someone, a friend, she got hers done recently.
	Bro, why don't you fucking call me?
	I don't talk to her out of that shit.
	Wait, to get in.
	This isn't.
	Wait, I'm village.
	Are you doing this?
	This is somebody else.
	Wait, bigger or smaller?
	Is it like removing the lips?
	You can't go bigger.
	Just cutting some of the labia.
	Like, everybody can scritch this shit out.
	Yo, AB check, thank you for the gifted 20 membership.
	So for herself, she wanted it cosmetically.
	She wanted it to look a certain way.
	But after talking to a lot of the doctors, because it is gynecologists that perform this typically, not just plastic surgeons.
	It's the most recommended gynecologist.
	I learned that unfortunately a lot of women deal with this.
	And it's not just because of cosmetics.
	Yes, cosmetic is a great issue.
	And just for wanting to feel confident.
	Look at the tries on this.
	Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
	I do a lot of injections.
	But specifically, a lot of women are.
	She's flexing.
	Now she's flexing.
	Unfortunately, a lot of women deal with either longer lady majoras or no.
	I just forget a lot.
	I forget a lot.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	A lot of women, unfortunately, deal with a lot of longer lady majoras or just unfortunately just.
	Unfortunately, no, fortunately, they have large labia majoras.
	Basically, don't you dare.
	Unfortunately, it's very fortunate.
	Send them my way.
	I'll take care of them.
	Absolutely.
	So, unfortunately, a lot of women deal with this and don't know how to talk about it with doctors, how to talk about it with family and how to talk about it.
	They got to talk about it with me so I can talk them out of getting some fucking surgery.
	That's crazy.
	Having long labias, unfortunately, it can lead to a lot of infections.
	It can lead to hygiene, things like that.
	Fake.
	It's truly an issue.
	No, and I'm only talking about infections.
	You can see them on websites, but it's intended typically to help people.
	Andre loves it.
	And I've met a lot of the doctors.
	But I'm saying that they actually do it on a lot of younger girls, unfortunately.
	It's girls that were wearing skirts, tennis skirts, things like that.
	And it takes fake news.
	It's true.
	Can I add something to that?
	I did a course.
	I did a course.
	You inject?
	I hear it go.
	Pussy.
	Okay.
	Listen, let's see.
	Let's do it.
	Pussy injection.
	Listen to me.
	Oh, don't say that.
	Sorry.
	Listen, here I go.
	I had to do for the medical department.
	I had to do like a course on pussy injections.
	Wait, let me finish.
	I had to do a course on the face and everything.
	And I didn't know that when you do that course, the nurse that gives the course, you know, in the middle of the class, we're sitting like this, literally.
	She brought a dildo, you know, the one that bounced like that.
	Stick it on the table.
	Stick it on the table.
	I'm not joking with you.
	Start to mark it with a Sharpie and say, okay, now I'm going to teach.
	It's mandatory from the class, you know?
	And then she started teaching us how to inject, how to do the massage.
	After I said, I cannot do this, you know, I cannot have men coming and I inject them.
	And then she teaches the vagina one.
	You know, I didn't really think of it.
	And then I had strippers asking me, Do you do the vagina shots?
	I said, I took the course.
	I don't mind.
	There's a vagina.
	Yeah, we're injecting.
	So wait, let me explain.
	So she asked me, can you do it to me?
	And I took the course.
	Man, you charge $3,000 for this for one hour of injections.
	What does it do to your beauty?
	I'll explain.
	Actually, later I'll show you pictures, but it's a specific style.
	No, no, it's a specific style, okay?
	That it came from Asia, specifically from Korea.
	That they like the outer lips to look like a bun and really, really puffy.
	So they inject around it and make it, yeah.
	And also when you inject in the, okay, let's say this is the thing.
	Okay, let's say this is the thing.
	You're all into it.
	When you inject.
	Wait, wait.
	Wait, wait, let me.
	I'm getting a flat to Korean.
	There's going to be so much porn on Brian's computer.
	Wait a second.
	Wait a second.
	Let me finish.
	I don't watch porn, okay?
	I don't watch porn.
	Wait a second.
	Let me finish.
	When you inject in this area, you know, when the entrance on the sides, the next day when the product spread, expand, so it makes the inside to go really, really tight.
	So literally, you can make woman tighter.
	She has better, you know, when she finish.
	I'm just sharing just from like the basis of just like, because this is a panel of primarily women and Brian.
	But honestly, it's disgusting.
	That's what a labia plasty is.
	It's the removal of skin for typically the betterment of hygiene and betterment of culture.
	And as well for cosmetic reasons.
	Actually, actually, that's not true.
	Like he said, it's fake, and I'll explain when you do, because I remember they talked about it in the course.
	When you cut the downstairs, when you cut there, it's actually caused more infection because when it's bigger, sometimes it's closed and it's protected.
	I think in the obviously I'm not a doctor, so this is my cutting from what I've learned.
	It's like so graphic, you may find from just the simple nature.
	A lot of people, they get discomfort.
	They get a lot of discomfort because either they're longer or anything in that form of wearing tight clothes.
	Graphic.
	Like, you're not six.
	You know what these words mean?
	No, I know, but they're like lagging in front of people.
	It's not like you talk with the.
	Oh, yeah, no, we'll hide the words.
	Okay, I mean, it's a little, you know, it's a little uncertainty.
	We'll say the vagina, make you feel better, right?
	You don't know what pussy means.
	You got to say vagina.
	It makes you feel better.
	Your virgin ears.
	No, I'm not offended.
	It's just funny to me.
	I'm not offended.
	It's just funny to me.
	I assure you.
	Okay, hold on.
	Let me finish this up.
	So, okay, really quick on this whole plastic surgery thing.
	And I mean this shit.
	Like, I prefer no plastic surgery.
	Even if a girl, let's say a girl has no boobs, flat boobs, zero boobs.
	Or let's say she's got like lopsided boobs.
	Like one titty's going that way.
	Have you seen the video with the clitoris?
	The fuck are you talking about?
	It's a famous video.
	I'll send it to you.
	The giant clitoris.
	It's a video of a woman dancing.
	They did actually a whole song and music from that.
	She's dancing and her thing is butterflies like moving and shaking by the beat.
	It's hilarious.
	Okay, so everybody knows.
	I prefer a girl with like a cup or no boobs over some giant perfect.
	They could be perfect fake titties.
	Prefer normal boobs.
	I prefer small upper lip over the lip filler.
	I prefer small butt over the BBL.
	I prefer like a little belly fat over like the lipo, like lipo belly.
	And yeah, that's looks for the most part I touched on.
	Don't point it at me.
	I don't have a gesturing.
	Surgery belly.
	My belly is natural.
	Thank you.
	She has to have played the cello for at least three years.
	What?
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Why?
	For the arm skill.
	Got it.
	Yeah.
	No, just for like musical talent reasons.
	Like I'm a I like art.
	What about violin then?
	What's the difference?
	Oh, big difference.
	Oh my gosh.
	Yeah, she knows, right?
	She's done cello for she's just under the, she's only done it for two years though, so we can't date, unfortunately.
	Me?
	Oh my god, bro.
	You're kind of a bit solipsistic where like you think everything's.
	You said Sheena.
	No, I didn't.
	What did you say?
	You said she, but I heard.
	Okay.
	That's why you think everything's about you.
	No, I don't think everything is about me.
	Don't her name is just really close to the word.
	It's close.
	I didn't.
	All right.
	Okay.
	I'm being.
	All right.
	Personality rise.
	Okay, here we go.
	Let's see.
	Prefer introverted women.
	Quiet, calm, soft-spoken.
	A little bit shy, a little bit nerdy, like that.
	Definitely introverted, prefer that.
	Modesty is huge.
	Doesn't party, doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs, doesn't go to bars or clubs.
	I don't do any of that shit.
	Doesn't quarrel, brings me peace.
	Undivided romantic and sexual attention.
	And a girl who helps me in my mission.
	And that's pretty much most of it.
	Washroom restaurant.
	You trying to sign up or what's up?
	My mission.
	Your mission?
	My mission, I mean, it's my mission, my work.
	I mean, so just makes my, I guess, my mission easier, alleviates some of it.
	So, I mean, my mission is just my business.
	Yeah.
	And honestly, actually, don't even actually, that would be nice, but it's not like I don't need that shit.
	Brian, when you met such a woman, would you and if she exists, and if I coach her to be that way, understanding you and everything, and she would be that perfect version, would you be willing to make a commitment?
	To marry her?
	Commitment.
	In front.
	But she is, well, then it's like you're avoiding love and connection then.
	I still love her.
	You can still love her.
	I can still love her, trust her.
	She would want that ideal woman.
	She's a big lady.
	That ideal woman.
	That ideal woman.
	Oh, my God.
	That ideal woman.
	A dear woman.
	She is in front of you.
	And you care for her.
	And you love her.
	And you really.
	You really want that dear woman.
	Wait, she's literally.
	Are you talking about me?
	No, I'm talking about her.
	Oh, okay, okay.
	You're talking about that woman that you described.
	And you can really care for her.
	You don't view her as 4.2 or whatever.
	You actually truly care for her.
	I could still be objective.
	It's not like, oh, I wouldn't tell her to her face, like, sorry, you were seven.
	But, like, I could, like, you wouldn't tell her the truth?
	No, it's rude to like a girl you're dating.
	If some girl's like, rape me, Brian, I'm like, no, thank you.
	That woman.
	You got to placate your girl a little bit.
	Right, Andrew?
	Yeah, Andrew.
	What do you think?
	No.
	No, not at all.
	At least you're consistent.
	That's good.
	Exactly.
	That's what I wanted to say because it was genuine.
	As long as you're consistent.
	See, I can't.
	I'm not going to.
	No, no plate.
	No placating.
	Okay.
	I don't know if it's placating.
	Oh, I mean, that's just my take.
	If I was dating a girl, I wouldn't, and she's like, Brian, tell me, rate me.
	I'd be like, no, I'm good.
	I'm okay.
	The woman would have the issue.
	She could think she would be asking to be raped.
	I mean, it is.
	Maybe they're curious.
	You know, maybe there's like a sneaky workaround.
	You know what I would say?
	I think, now that I think about it, if they said rate me, I'd say, well, I'm two points higher than you, so you rate yourself.
	Hmm, I like it.
	Anyways, yeah, I wouldn't marry her.
	Sorry.
	What do you think they'd say?
	Do you think they'd give themselves an eight?
	I think they'd give themselves an eight, right?
	Maybe.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I wouldn't.
	I wouldn't.
	I'm not getting married.
	Unless I become an Orthodox Christian.
	Oh, my God.
	Then I'll join us.
	Then.
	But yeah, I'm not going to get married.
	Well, that's what you're saying.
	You got hurt before that you think like that.
	Who hurt you?
	Who hurt me?
	It seems like some woman hurt.
	Who said who hurt me?
	Oh, boy.
	It was her.
	Who said it?
	She can fix you.
	I just restated.
	No, I couldn't.
	Could not.
	I think you said he'd fix me.
	No, I said vice versa.
	Anyways, but, oh, and like has to give unlimited back scratches and massages.
	Oh, I know.
	And bows.
	And bow.
	Yes, and bows.
	I feel like I'm almost getting to the point where I'm like those delusional chicks.
	That's like, I want a guy who may, I feel it's not the same, but like, I want a guy who makes eight figures and is 6'3 and is also awesome and is like two years older than me.
	And what are some of the other ridiculous things like chicks want?
	Man buns.
	Man buns.
	Not realistic.
	That's fair.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, no.
	They want a man that's also has feminist perspective, but then suits the masculinity.
	I made a video about this.
	Suits their masculinity at any point that suits them in the moment and then can change it at any whim.
	And admires for her to achieve things and supports her in achieving and going stronger.
	Doesn't work like that.
	It's a sissy, and you're not attracted to him.
	I'm going to try to get through all the pre-show notes and then we're going to try to wrap up here pretty soon.
	So, okay, let's go to where were we?
	We got everything, we did Coco.
	Oh, okay, let's do it real quick.
	It's safe, right?
	Yeah, it's safe.
	It's all safe.
	You don't have any crazy twerking on there or any shit.
	No.
	I had a funny voice thing, but we can't pull it up.
	It's okay.
	Instead of take me on an adventure, it's watch me twerk.
	All right, here's Izzy profile.
	So, boys, in the chat, you see her, you see her on Hinge.
	Do you swipe yes or swipe no?
	All these men are probably.
	Go ahead.
	The way to win me over is be yourself in upfront with your intentions.
	Wait, really?
	But you're looking for a life partner in monogamy?
	Eventually.
	I just deleted this and got it again, so it sort of just changed it and haven't looked at it too hard.
	Be upfront with your intentions.
	So if a guy was upfront with his intentions and he's like, I just want to have sex with you once and never talk to you again, would that work?
	No, not at this time.
	Her thing says life partner.
	Yeah.
	It literally says life partner.
	But I feel like girls say be upfront with your intentions.
	You know.
	Like, I'll see if it's something that I'd be interested in as long as you tell me the truth.
	But like, I don't think that I would just hook up with someone.
	Yeah.
	Ready?
	Yeah, next.
	It's an IB.
	Okay, next.
	Sinkai.
	Next.
	Next.
	Woo.
	Next.
	Kawaii.
	Dating me is like normalize that shit.
	What a nice car, actually.
	Okay, next.
	Next.
	Is there another one?
	There's another.
	It used to be so much better.
	I'm sorry to let you guys know.
	All right, boys, do you swipe yes or do you swipe no?
	And then, let's see what else we okay.
	I just need to get through these super quick.
	Andrew and Michaela, you guys are going to have a five-minute.
	I give you guys five minutes to have a back and forth on this.
	You say you're a Christian who doesn't believe in going to church.
	Okay, go.
	Yeah, actually, personally, I don't go to church unless there's more to it.
	Unless I found a small church that was not, didn't start turning into like a lights, camera, action, smoke show, which is what I've seen in every church I've attended.
	But I don't believe nobody should go to church.
	That's not true.
	Yeah, so I'm sorry.
	Let's back up real quick.
	Sure.
	What type of Christianity do you practice?
	Orthodox Christianity, even though I know that requires going to a church, but I don't.
	So then you don't practice Orthodox Christianity?
	No, I do.
	How?
	I have my faith based on the Bible and the traditions of the Orthodox Church, minus the traditions of the Orthodox Church.
	Can I be clear?
	There are Orthodox churches.
	Can I be clear?
	There are no Orthodox churches within where I live somewhere.
	I can go and my schedule.
	So I have to go.
	I have gotten to test it.
	Okay, so two things.
	So hang on a second.
	Let's back up.
	First, I don't believe that there's no Orthodox churches anywhere where have you been to Seattle?
	Yes, of course.
	In Seattle, there's Orthodox churches.
	What are you talking about?
	No, I said within a distance that I can make it.
	What is that?
	My schedule.
	I work every single day of the week except for Monday.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	If you're in Seattle right now, you're in California, correct?
	Right, and I had to close my head.
	It seems like that's a distance that you can make.
	Yeah, and I could do it one time, but I couldn't commit to it.
	Doing it weekly.
	Yeah, you don't have to do it weekly.
	What about once a month?
	I would have no problem visiting here and there, but it has to be a place that my husband finds to be non-corrupt.
	Yeah.
	And your husband, what denomination is he?
	Same.
	But he would have to feel.
	He was an Orthodox Christian.
	You're both baptized into the church, right?
	Well, I mean, I go back.
	So it's a little complicated.
	So I took on the belief as an Orthodox Christian relatively recently.
	It was probably during the pandemic years is what when I shifted.
	I grew up a Christian, non-denominational, and I was baptized through that.
	So I didn't go and get re-baptized specifically.
	Were you chrismated?
	No, no, I was baptized.
	And you're not an Orthodox Christian.
	If you weren't chrismated, you weren't baptized into the church, you're not an Orthodox.
	I suppose then I consider myself that, and I'm not officially a Christian.
	You can't consider yourself that.
	Well, I do.
	No, it doesn't matter.
	Well, I suppose I'm not offended.
	Hang on.
	I consider myself Wolverine.
	I have claws that come out of my hands and I can cut cars in half.
	But that shit's not true.
	You can consider yourself that, but if you weren't chrismated into the church, you weren't baptized into the church, you weren't accepted into the Orthodox church, you are not an Orthodox Christian.
	Where on earth did you ever get the idea that you were?
	No, no, I suppose that would be the next step, but until we found a place that, you know, suited him, my husband, and myself, then.
	Is your husband baptized into the church?
	No, he is not either.
	He's just traditionally baptized.
	Then neither of you, neither of you are Orthodox Christians.
	It's just the belief system, I suppose, and the general traditionalism of it.
	There's no belief system.
	Listen, listen.
	So that you understand, you cannot believe you're a part of the church, right?
	You have to be, you have to be brought into the church.
	You have to be baptized into the church.
	You have to be chrismated.
	You have to be accepted after you go through a catechesis.
	It's not a thing.
	You don't wake up one morning and go, oh, well, I'm an Orthodox Christian now.
	It's not Protestantism.
	You don't get to just pick and choose.
	That's not how it goes.
	I hear you.
	I guess I suppose that's the next step then in order for it to be official.
	I think it's just observing the lifestyle and the tradition and the values is more of where we align ourselves.
	And I suppose we would need to get officially baptized.
	Is that okay with you?
	No, that's incorrect.
	Listen, you can't align yourself with the values of the church without being part of the body of the church.
	It's not possible.
	So I suppose.
	Part of this is having a, I'm going to explain it to you so that you know.
	Part of this is having a spiritual father.
	Part of this is going through your catechesis and understanding what it is that your duties are to the church, being a part of that parish and contributing heavily to that parish.
	That is your duty as an Orthodox Christian.
	It's not a, I get to pick and choose what I like.
	It's not a, you can't go to liturgy.
	That is part of the process.
	You need to go to divine liturgy.
	You need to go to confession.
	These are not things which are negotiated.
	You don't negotiate these things.
	It's not Protestantism.
	You are, in fact, 100,000% not an Orthodox Christian.
	You should not be identifying yourself that way, right?
	What you're doing by identifying yourself as an Orthodox Christian without being one, you're being what's called a heretic.
	It's heresy.
	It's pure heresy.
	Okay, okay, okay.
	Well, why would you don't roll your eyes?
	Listen to what I'm saying.
	You're not inducting the church and you're calling yourself an Orthodox Christian.
	Did I not?
	You're spreading heresy.
	You're spreading heresy.
	Did I or did I not just say, I hear what you're saying, and I guess that would be what we would need to do to be officially Christian?
	You started the conversation by saying you're an Orthodox Christian.
	Right, and then we went through it, and then I said, I suppose you're right, and that's what we would need to do to be Orthodox Christians.
	Yeah, so by saying, by even identifying yourself as an Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox Christian, you're telling the world, I'm inducted into the church.
	You're spreading false beliefs.
	It's a heresy.
	You have to stop doing that.
	It's really bad for you to do that.
	Don't do that.
	Well, I think it's going to be okay.
	Don't worry.
	It's going to be fine.
	No, it's not going to be okay.
	I don't know where you got the idea that it's okay to say that you're an Orthodox Christian or you're not.
	That's not okay.
	That's not a problem.
	I'm not leading anybody into any kind of pathway that's anti-biblical.
	So if you talk about your religious beliefs publicly and your beliefs publicly and you identify as an Orthodox Christian, are people not going to take those set values and identify them with Orthodoxy?
	I suppose, yes, they would.
	Yes, well, then that would be you spreading heresy.
	That's the problem.
	Well, like I said, again, I heard your point, and I said, I suppose that would be the next step in order for it to be proper.
	So I hear what you're saying.
	But I don't know.
	I don't think there's going to be any issue as I don't publicly admit, besides this one instance where I've been asked, I don't publicly discuss my denomination or what I believe is what I would like my denomination to be.
	So it's not really going to be a problem.
	It's just one thing.
	Listen, it's just so you understand in the future, too, okay?
	And I'm not even beating up on you.
	I'm glad you're looking into Orthodoxy.
	And I want you to be an Orthodox Christian.
	Okay?
	But it's not a thing which is supposed to be trendy.
	It's not a trend.
	It's not there.
	It's not, hang on, it's not there for virtue signaling.
	It's not there for any of that.
	The church is a serious matter.
	It's not a joke.
	We take it very seriously.
	Our job is to serve the church.
	That is our job.
	That is our primary and only, we are there to serve the church.
	And through serving the church, we can go through the process for theosis.
	This is a complex matter.
	To us, it's not a joke.
	When I went through catechesis, I was corrected many, many, many times on the things that I said, as well as I should have been.
	It's not a joke to us.
	It's just to us, it's not.
	It's just specifically, don't worry, it's not a joke to me either, just because I had some misconceptions.
	But it is good to have a discussion, as I don't know in real life any other orthodox or what I believe to be Orthodox Christians.
	So it's a discussion that's interesting to have, but I never said it was a joke and I don't think it's funny.
	And I wasn't trying to get that.
	I wasn't trying to get trendy.
	I'm not an Orthodox church.
	It's not a trend at all.
	Actually, I would say it's opposite.
	All right, final thoughts from both of you on that?
	And I do have to move it along.
	Yeah, so my final thoughts are just this.
	No, you're not an Orthodox Christian, not in any way, shape, or form.
	But you should go to an Orthodox church.
	And yes, there are plenty in Seattle to go to.
	It's absurd to think otherwise.
	And you should start as an inquirer.
	As an inquirer, you should move over to become a catechuman, and then you should be baptized into the church or chrismated.
	They may accept your baptism from your former church.
	Like, that's up to your priest.
	I don't know your personal situation, but you don't, yeah, don't publicly say ever that you're an Orthodox Christian if you haven't been chrismated or baptized into the church.
	That's just, it would be fundamentally not true at all.
	I hear you.
	All right.
	All right.
	And then for Oksana, you said you wanted to talk about like the, so your matchmaker matched hundreds or thousands?
	Thousands of people.
	Thousands of people.
	And so I guess like, why would anyone, so why would anyone need a matchmaker when there's like all these dating apps and stuff?
	Well, I asked you a question if the datingness actually became easier, what it was in comparison with 10 years ago.
	And there is such a variety of personals that is out there that how much time you actually invest in trying to figure out who is who, really who they are.
	So number one point is when my clients come to us, to me, to my service, we have the whole background data about them.
	And background is very important.
	When you're forming the relationship, understanding where your partner is coming from.
	I mean, I can give you an example in my personal, in my marriage, when we started dating me and my husband, I mean, I know what hunger is, like really like starvation for three days.
	So for me, food is, it's not like a luxury or whatever.
	It is, I mean, it is luxury for me.
	So when I made him one of the first dinners, he was expecting something really special.
	For me, special is having the food.
	For him, it is the fancy meals, right?
	So when I made a steamed salmon with like nutrition, you know, and nutritious, of course, it was not appreciated.
	So for me, it would be pain, it would be hurt.
	For him, he would feel like he's not valued.
	So if communication would not be there to discuss like what is our background, then we definitely, that would be the recipe for breakup, right?
	We could make our own conclusions and move on.
	But there are so many different examples.
	So knowing the background, I mean, for you, when you're trying to meet someone special, will take you months and months and months to figure out just that background.
	For me, take me.
	Just like you got Audi?
	That takes me like 30 seconds.
	Not the background.
	Not all the details where she is coming from.
	And for her to know all of your details and your background before you guys actually have interaction, it will set you so many steps ahead that your first interaction is going to be more deep and more valuable.
	It's not going to be like a stranger's.
	But it is very hard to navigate the world out there.
	You know, what I'm very passionate about is coaching women.
	So that's what I asked you.
	Like if I created that ideal version of that woman that you described, because she has the values and she wants to be that person, but if she doesn't know what you want, how she can be that for you.
	But for the woman to get the full understanding what her potential man needs and understanding his background, so it eliminates judgment of his actions.
	She understands where it is coming from, that actions, his behavior, and so on.
	So yeah, matchmaker can save lots of lots of time to prepare the ideal woman to coach that woman to help you navigate, you know, even the choices.
	So what you're saying is that you are prepared to present me with beautiful early 20s, big labia, Russian chicks.
	Oh my God.
	Sign me up.
	Okay.
	Well, would you be willing to make a commitment?
	I got to marry them.
	I'm so special woman.
	But she's so special.
	And you feel comfortable.
	They have to be willing to have sex with me within the first three dates, too.
	Sex, hold on.
	Sex blocks the intimacy.
	So how can you get to the point of really sustainable relationship?
	You're committing to marriage, though.
	So the sex is kind of needed.
	Before I'm just saying that.
	There is a difference.
	Not that it's made anymore.
	The difference between sex and making love.
	So, when people have seen love.
	After three days, I will be having sex.
	In fact, I never have sex.
	I only make love.
	I never have sex.
	I only love love.
	Making love even the first time.
	Keeping your partner is a partner.
	Physically.
	I feel the best.
	But you would be making it.
	But to connect emotionally is critically important for sustainable research.
	So you're a serial fellow.
	If it is based on just pure sex, it is not sustainable.
	Andrew, I'm personally spending $30 to send this message.
	Please don't be mad.
	Read Alan Carr's book, Easy Way to Quit Smoking.
	Just looking out for you, bro.
	Wait, let me know.
	So just to assuage your fears, I have a quit date near the end of the year, and that'll be it.
	Very nice, very nice.
	I'll actually use his technology to quit smoking.
	We'll come back to you.
	Guys, so I have it paused temporarily, but then I'll allow them to come through.
	The TTS is set to 30.
	We'll do a quick roast segment if you guys want to do any roasting.
	And then we're going to wrap up the show.
	So if you want, get them in.
	They're temporarily paused, but go ahead, get them in so I can start reviewing them because we do have a mod.
	I'm trying to get the mod review going.
	So yeah, I make love.
	Okay.
	Even if you're not in love, it's always making love.
	No, making love, it is not just the physical aspect.
	I mean, physical aspect.
	The guys who are having a bunch of girls, they are having sex with the same woman all the time.
	The man who is, or a woman and man together, when they're growing through the challenges, overcoming them together, each person is transitioning through this experience.
	We change as we go through life, through the challenges, and we are supporting our partner.
	We are not the same.
	Every five years we become a different person.
	I mean, any set of challenges.
	Every five years, you're not even who you're a totally different person.
	It's like you grow like new skin.
	But it's true.
	Biologically, it's completely true.
	Biologically, neuroscience, in every aspect, every five years you.
	But when you're going, when you're growing together as a couple and supporting each other and you overcoming conflicts, I mean, the couple can either fall apart over the conflicts or they can actually come out even stronger if they are working together, if they're supporting each other and working together on finding the solution.
	So, I mean, that's the beauty of true committed relationship.
	So, what you're saying, just having sex, it is a physical aspect, okay?
	That doesn't take a very special person, whether it is man or a woman.
	But what it takes a very special person is to be able to open up your heart, all vulnerability, all of the pain, all of the fears, and be able to share that with your partner.
	So, the physical aspect becomes making love if all of the other things are connected.
	So, can I add something?
	In our generation, it's right what you're saying, but in their generation, it's completely different.
	We are mingle with different people than they are mingled with.
	Well, I am in my service, I am raising such a woman.
	Women, they come to me, they're paying me money because they want to learn what it is to be a small quantity compared to what you are.
	I will work with a small quantity that makes significant changes in men's life or in no, but what I'm trying to say, he's the type of person, he's not an average guy.
	He sees on a weekly basis hundreds of women in his podcast, all colors, all shapes, all ages.
	Definitely all shapes.
	Completely, completely, he see completely different women every day.
	You see, he would be infected by if the woman is really the dirt and garbage.
	Oh, he would be infected.
	Well, let me finish.
	I think because he sees a lot of women every week, okay, his perspective completely changed from another man who doesn't see.
	He has more options.
	He can pick more verses when he was younger before he did the podcast that he saw small quantities.
	Yeah, I killed it when I was younger first.
	No, no, I'm not saying that you don't understand.
	Don't sleep on young brunch.
	It's not what I meant.
	You should see when I was in the middle of the day.
	Everything I say, you take out of context.
	16%.
	No, sorry.
	Like 16% body fat, fucking shredded.
	It's not what I meant.
	I meant that today you see so many women.
	Golden days.
	It's different.
	Golden days.
	But if you would be surrounded by women who actually happiness and joy and would be just totally different even today.
	How many years have you been doing the podcast?
	Two years?
	But regardless, I don't know how you looked before.
	Wait, I don't know how you looked before, but for me personally, I'd rather have a man in your size than somebody who's like skinny and like super skinny and small.
	It's not about the physical look.
	That's why the person feels on the inside.
	Can I ask something?
	Don't matchmakers have a success rate?
	Yeah.
	What's your success rate?
	The ones who I continue working with even after marriage, they are staying married for their well, my oldest case is close to 30 years.
	So you're a psychologist also?
	I do not.
	I have a, I call myself qualified by experience.
	You know, when I'm, I started being a man, it was not my choice.
	But I was 16 years old when I started working with people.
	I had no idea about relationship myself.
	But as I go through different stories and different circumstances, it helps me grow.
	So every client who invites me into their life, in their traumas, in their fears, in their I am learning and growing with them together.
	And it is very, very intimate connection, you know.
	Wait, you're from Kazakhstan?
	Originally.
	Kazdakhi.
	Can't they?
	They look a lot of the people.
	They look Asian, right?
	Yeah.
	Well, he's actually Jewish.
	I know, I know, but the character was Kazakhstan.
	Could you get me linked up with like a Asian Kazakhstani woman?
	Yes.
	Do they have a name like between the white Kazakhstan?
	Kazakhs, yeah.
	So they look Asian.
	Asiatic.
	Is that a word?
	Asiatic?
	I don't know.
	No, no, Asians.
	No, Asiatic is a word.
	I'm just using a wrong word.
	So they speak Russian language and Kazakh language, but they do have looks of Asian looks.
	A lot of some people are not.
	I would get you.
	Like here in the recording.
	Here in the recording.
	I might get you a really fantastic girl in Alcoholics.
	They're very good women.
	If you would be willing to eventually shift your mind to the commitment.
	Never say never.
	Who knows?
	I could change.
	Could change.
	And it would be a special woman.
	Who absolutely will.
	You don't need to change.
	You need to experience.
	Is she going to be an Asian Kazakhstani woman?
	I insist.
	No, I insist.
	I know you got a lot of beautiful Russian ladies, but I insist that she's an Asian Kazakhstan woman.
	Kazakh woman.
	Got it.
	Yeah, and she has to when I meet her, she has to be wearing traditional Kazakh.
	Oh, my God.
	Have you seen traditional Kazakhstan?
	What do you mean?
	She's going to be like fully clothes.
	How's that doing?
	She has to wear traditional Kazakhstani.
	Have you seen traditional Kazakh dress?
	Are you fetish?
	That's what I'm saying.
	Google that shit neck.
	Actually, it's weird.
	Yeah, traditional Kazakh dress.
	I will only date Kazakhi.
	Yeah.
	Alakazam.
	A lot of people from Sovetski Sayus are like a little bit Asian and did a little bit of a number on everyone.
	So listen, I'm open-minded.
	Send me some photographs.
	You know, send me a couple photographs.
	And yeah, we'll see.
	I'll keep, you know.
	Maybe we'll have I'll take you through the process.
	Okay.
	Send me a couple girls.
	You know, and we'll see.
	I don't package them and don't send them.
	I create relationships.
	Damn, that's grandma over there.
	With the long cone hat.
	Traditional girls.
	So I can bring him the one with the long cone hats.
	That's very pretty.
	Yeah, that's great.
	Looks like the.
	Samuel.
	Are they.
	Is Kazakhstan a.
	Are they Christian?
	They're Muslim.
	Yeah, but I have lots of clients who actually look at Muslims, but they converted to Christians, yeah.
	A lot of them convert either to Judaism or Christianity.
	All right.
	I'm going to let the chats come through now.
	Oh.
	Why is it not reading it?
	Oh, it's because they're.
	Maddie, can you read it?
	Ladies, knowing Brian is a midget-loving post-op trans man, would you date him knowing he still has his lady hands and his botched boob job?
	God.
	So the question is: would you date me?
	If that was all your case, huh?
	No, just I guess he's just asking if you would date me, I guess.
	Nah.
	Rip.
	No, I'm probably not.
	Sure.
	Into the mic, though.
	I think you're too young and your personality.
	You're a good person, but I think you're like everything we say.
	We like first you go negative and then I don't know.
	He did say the devil's advocate.
	But I think deep down underneath all these layers, you're a really deep, sensitive person.
	I could see it in your eyes.
	Oh, you gotta peel it back like an onion.
	You just got punched a lot, ogre.
	Oh, damn.
	What about you?
	I'm married, no.
	Rip.
	Married.
	Yeah, it's not fair to ask the people in like relationships, and that's not fair.
	But you're cute.
	That's cool.
	Oh, thanks.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Trent and I'm going to come to you.
	Brian, you say you need to lose weight nearly every show.
	No, he doesn't.
	I saw you and Cindy together at In N Out the other night.
	You mind explaining yourself.
	Mr. Bullet donated $30.
	Hold on, wait.
	Message from the Inquisition Patriarchy.
	Brian, we are disappointed by your lack of deep emotional connection with us.
	When will you mail the autographed blue white cup with certificate of authenticity?
	It'll happen.
	I'm going to get to it.
	The Cindy one.
	Hold on, that's ridiculous.
	First off, yeah, no, never been.
	I would.
	No.
	Never happened.
	Fake news.
	Fake news.
	Next.
	Lol Paladins donated $30.
	I identify as an Orthodox Apache Attack helicopter.
	Soy, soy, soy, soy, Center 19 donated $30.
	First time donating here, Cheers All.
	Been going on dates.
	Women claim I'm funny, likable, nice, chivalrous, but there's no chemistry.
	Getting tired of hearing that.
	What do you ladies mean with that?
	You're too nice.
	Too much.
	You're being too nice.
	Maybe you need to be more assertive.
	I just don't like you.
	You gotta be a little bit of an asshole.
	Just a little.
	Who is around?
	What are you guys talking about?
	I think he should stay authentic himself if he is nice because it is just a matter of kind and loving woman to recognize those qualities.
	You know, playing and being somebody that you are not is not gonna get you.
	It's gonna explode in your face.
	Exactly.
	Eventually, your true personality is gonna come out.
	Exactly.
	And it's like setting yourself up.
	You look like Bevo.
	He's enjoying yourself.
	What are you doing?
	It looks like a toupee.
	AliExpress.
	Shit, bro.
	It looks like an AliExpress shiny toupee.
	Isn't it looking like shiny AliExpress to pay for it?
	What the fuck?
	Holy fuck, that's crazy.
	Oh my God.
	I feel like there's too much product in Andrew's hair for that to move.
	You could do it.
	It's oily.
	I'm at hair.
	Yeah, just hair, but it's not going to come forward nicely.
	Why do you think there's product in my hair?
	Because it looks nice in style.
	I mean, it doesn't turn his attention.
	Definitely.
	What?
	Why are you defensive?
	I mean, I love when men do their hair.
	It's nice.
	Everything is nice.
	We tell you guys you're defensive.
	We try to be nice.
	You're not used to women actually worshiping them.
	It's okay.
	To answer your question, your hair is a little bit shiny.
	That's why it looks like there's product in it.
	But it's also like that.
	That's because there's lights on it.
	Andrew, even if you show me like this product, it looks like it.
	It doesn't matter, but it looks wet.
	Andrew, even if you're six hours, it just looks like a wet look.
	It's like a slick back.
	Whatever.
	Your men deserve praise.
	I want to say that, Andrew, even if you look messy, you're attractive just because you're so smart and sharp.
	That's what I think personally.
	I know you're married.
	I'm not trying to.
	I don't get.
	Just to go back to the TTS about the whole thing.
	Okay, okay.
	Hang on.
	Look, I'm not into the age gap thing.
	You're like 25 years too old for me.
	I'm not trying to hit on you.
	No, I'm kidding.
	I'm joking.
	It was a funny joke.
	It was a great joke.
	You ruined it.
	Don't ruin the great joke.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Yeah, but this whole like chemistry thing, you claim you're funny, likable, nice, chivalrous.
	No chemistry.
	These girls who like, oh, he's per.
	Have you guys ever met a guy?
	Oh, he's tall, handsome, kind, generous, all this shit.
	Good personality, but you just didn't feel it.
	She just straight up didn't like you, but she's trying to be nice about it.
	So she's telling you somewhat good qualities about you to cop out.
	No, but there's like, I'm sure you girls have met a guy who's like, he checks all the boxes, but he doesn't check one box, but being mean to her.
	Because a lot of girls, that's what they like.
	Yeah, I just need a little bit to round it up.
	Of course it's a fact.
	A lot of girls I know, I work with women.
	But guys don't have this.
	Well, no, chemistry can go for the way he dresses, for the way he smells, for the way he carries communication, and for the way, like, does he have confidence or not?
	But I want to have a question.
	I want to ask you a question.
	Don't you agree that a lot of women kick their men either they all of a sudden are attracted to him when they know he's really rich or if he's being a bastard and mean to them so they really really like him and I've met a lot of women like that I'm like why do you like him I don't know it's an asshole it's something about it I love it when he's mean to me it is women who are absolutely insecure yeah but it is a lot of women are like a lot of women are like that seems like Look, here's the exam.
	Here's the corresponding example.
	For all you girls who say, I met a guy who checks all the boxes, but just didn't feel the click.
	That would be like a guy saying, She's beautiful, great body, perfect boobs, perfect butt, feminine, feminine, submissive, virgin, kind, nurturing.
	But there just wasn't the click.
	Because women like aggressive women.
	You said no guy ever.
	I think some men have.
	No.
	Unless you have bed breath.
	There's the unexpected boxes that you don't know.
	You need to click.
	Anyways, I need to get through these.
	We shouldn't link it.
	Women, let's be honest.
	A lot of the women.
	Why do women espouse this once you meet the magic one crap?
	Answers please.
	What?
	There is no the one, in my view.
	There's a one.
	I feel like they think that they're just going to know immediately.
	Lol Paladins donated $30.
	Don't send any girls to Brian.
	He just needs them to fill seats on his degenerate show.
	Hey, Lol Paladins, I thought you were the homie.
	What's up?
	Why are you coming for me, bro?
	Why are you coming for the show?
	Could just be somebody who faked his name.
	Oh, it could be.
	Hold on.
	Okay, I'm not.
	Tyrone, I'm not going to trigger that one.
	Not nice?
	I'll let you...
	You find what...
	Okay, I'm just going to send it.
	It's for you.
	Oh, my God.
	Maddie, read it.
	Has offered terrible advice, but the entire show don't pretend to be.
	And who?
	Stop being scared and subscribe to.
	Don't pretend to be.
	What does the stars mean?
	That is a bad word that we can't display.
	Oh, okay.
	All right, I'm just going to move on.
	I didn't know.
	Johnny Triplex donated $30.
	I have problems reading signals from women.
	How to find out if she is interested?
	You have to test her in a beginning because a lot of women just play games.
	If she likes texts you back, call her.
	Just be honest.
	Test her.
	Be honest.
	If you're having sex with her, she probably likes you.
	Probably.
	My opinion, you should be a party.
	And actually, 50%, Brian.
	You can't.
	Yeah, I don't know how.
	Something like that.
	The lack of communication, that's what leads to this type of questions.
	She's visiting.
	Most mess donated $30.
	Brianne, I love your show.
	And And were you thariel profette?
	Im42 you and single, had two relationships, six years and eight years.
	He'll rather be single until the girl show up.
	Then settle with the strumpets with big body count.
	Old man Marine donated $30.
	I identify as Insane Baptist Christian.
	There is one right around the corner from me and I think about going all the time.
	Therefore, I am a member.
	Saint Baptist.
	Sleepy Joe donated $30.
	The Ole, you are great.
	It's not you, it's me.
	Just remember, it isn't the journey that matters, it is the destination.
	After this podcast, we should know all about journeys.
	That was good.
	Never using that word again.
	Noise.
	Never say never.
	All right, then.
	I'm curious.
	All right, there might be a few more that trickle through, but I think.
	Did we hit everything?
	Tape measure.
	Oh, I don't know.
	I saw a TikTok.
	This could be, maybe this is a bit.
	I want you guys, Maddie, you're going to go around.
	You're going to put the actual measurement facing away from the girls.
	And you're going to.
	We did this before, right?
	I don't know what to do.
	What are you measuring?
	Perfect.
	It could either be ideal PP size or it could be.
	What the girl thinks, but you can't show them the actual, like, the back has to be to their face.
	And then they just say stop.
	Or, like, what how six inches.
	What do you think six inches is?
	What do you think six inches is?
	And you have to show you.
	Which one's better?
	And then I pass it.
	I don't want to hear it.
	You can pass if you don't want to do it, but I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Go ahead, Maddie.
	Or is this stupid?
	I don't know.
	It's stupid.
	Let me ask the chat.
	Oh, no, it could be, I don't know.
	What do girls think the average size is?
	Should we do it?
	Chat.
	Yes or no?
	I think it's stupid.
	Yes or no?
	Chat.
	Chat gets the pick.
	Dumb.
	Do it.
	Do it.
	Yeah, they want it.
	Dumb.
	Eric straight awesome.
	All right, we'll do it quick.
	Maddie, you gotta go around.
	Chat's lacking braces.
	And you say, what do you think the average.
	Too tired to argue.
	Should it be that?
	What do you think the average size is, or what is your ideal size?
	For you.
	Probably what do you think the average size is?
	Or how about you say the average size and everybody tries to like show how much they think?
	Can we just do it?
	Can we just do it?
	Yeah, but which question?
	What's the average?
	What do you think is the average?
	In America.
	So Maddie's going to like slowly pull it.
	The African American community with the average of 15%.
	What?
	No.
	Behind her.
	You're going to pull it.
	Stop.
	And then you say stop when you think.
	Stop when you think.
	Stop when you think it's the average in America.
	Sure.
	Right there.
	Actually, later than that.
	More?
	Less.
	Like a little less.
	Right there, I think.
	Right?
	Do I say it?
	Wait, do we wait?
	I feel like if we do this one, wait, wait.
	Wait, can I see what I guess?
	No, no, no.
	Can I see what I guess?
	Write it down, Mike.
	No, we're going to go back.
	What is the average?
	Oh, again.
	We're asking the dumbest question.
	Tell me when to stop.
	Okay.
	Stop.
	Go down a little bit?
	A little bit?
	Don't you want to ask it?
	I feel like you should look at it.
	Good.
	That's what we're doing.
	Yeah, you should probably look at it instead of look at it in the.
	Maybe a little bit bigger.
	Yeah.
	Honestly, that's down one inch.
	What the fuck?
	I just think it's like.
	Two quick nick donated $30.
	What's less chi at Y?
	Being attracted to a man with a peen or a woman with a peen?
	Question for the panel.
	Oh my gosh.
	It's for Brian.
	That's a...
	What?
	They're both...
	That's a...
	That's an illogical question.
	They're unanswerable because you're asking the same question.
	Alright, you ready?
	Tell me when to stop.
	Stop.
	We're a male lower.
	i love how we're all like maybe a little lower it's fine Let him in.
	Alright, tell them a little lower.
	More or less.
	Probably a little bit less.
	Yeah, I'll stick to that.
	This is so dumb.
	Next, we're going to measure be nice.
	But also, yeah, also Google the average because I'm really curving ourselves.
	Don't do it to me.
	She doesn't want it.
	What about your age?
	You skip it.
	We can switch it.
	It's not elegant, I can't.
	I'm sure that average is not really that big.
	I was blessed.
	I was being married to actually above average, I'm sure.
	They were all pretty reasonable, I guess.
	I would say they're all being pretty good.
	5.4, 4.5, 5.5, 4.5.
	Okay, cool.
	Good for you guys.
	What was it?
	Is it like five or something?
	Oh, God.
	I don't know.
	What's up?
	Happily married, donated $30.
	Girl on far right.
	Quiet spoken, attractive.
	If younger and single, I'd be interested in you.
	Oh, snap.
	At least until I learned about the of star shame.
	Okay.
	All right, we're going to do a raid on Twitch.
	We're going to raid Aladarnik if you can get them pulled up.
	Final thoughts from anybody before I wrap the show.
	It was not as bad as I thought.
	It's always fun.
	Yo, bad company.
	We're not doing real.
	It was a great panel on the show.
	It was okay.
	It was funny.
	No, I thought you were going to kill me, but you were okay.
	Just a little bit.
	I think everybody's really loving.
	I mean, at least we're heading towards that direction.
	Yeah.
	Heading towards the direction.
	I think everybody brought something, made a conclusion.
	This is the most calm I've had a calm.
	This is the calmest I would dealt with.
	Well, yeah, the last time it was.
	All right, somebody roast me.
	Do you have your prefer some conflicts going on at internet battle or they prefer women?
	Those two Australian girls denied us, denied us of what was sure to be a very good back and forth with Andrew and them, but knowing that their defeat was imminent, they rather they tucked tail and scurried out of here like the cowards they are back to their imaginary country.
	Did they really fly all the way over here just to no?
	I assume they live here in a high or something.
	Kind of a big deal.
	I think they like Andrew for later.
	I don't think so.
	She's here to keep her roster.
	Yeah.
	Oh my god.
	The roster showed up and they got scared.
	I think I asked one of them said they flew here for this and they're just staying for a vacation.
	They said specifically they came here for a reason.
	I feel bad for them.
	It's like, have you never seen the show?
	I don't know.
	I feel bad.
	I mean, they're young.
	Well, they, I mean, they were.
	Well, this was supposed to be their main day.
	This was supposed to be their main day, but then they're like, can we come on another day?
	I was like, yeah.
	And then they kind of were goblins because they got the good show with Charlie and they didn't stay for the show where it was not.
	Whatever.
	Whatever.
	Rude.
	Everything in life happens for a reason.
	Everything happens for a reason.
	Yep, whatever.
	Whatever.
	We are blessed with whatever.
	And, but, yeah, I mean, look, if you know any big labia-Kazakh women, just let me know.
	You will need to send me a picture because I still struggling to understand how big Libya is.
	I'll send you guys a picture of it.
	Some girl.
	Yo, everybody in the chat.
	There's this girl, Mackenzie Carter, Cameron.
	Brian, how do you live in California yet?
	Still look like proper trailer trash.
	Boys, you guys got to go in on Mackenzie Carter Cameron.
	You got to go in on her, right?
	Go in, boys.
	Anyways, okay.
	Trailer, trailer trash.
	Damn, it's almost one.
	Okay, yeah.
	Cool.
	Final thoughts, anybody?
	I think that's it.
	Okay.
	Oh, last thing.
	I need to do Twitch.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow on the prime sub.
	Oh my god, where did Burmese Tiger go, man?
	I miss him, dude.
	No, I'm kidding.
	Thank you, Mountain Tiger, for all.
	I don't know if you're still here, but really appreciate all your support tonight, man.
	You're a legend.
	We have Rudy.
	Thank you for the tier one.
	Guys, it's been 43 minutes since we've had a prime.
	I'm pretty sure it's bugged.
	It's bugs, boys.
	Can you guys help us out?
	Test that shit out.
	We need some support.
	We need some support.
	Drop us a follow on the Prime sub.
	Maddie, are you going to be streaming tomorrow?
	You're going to stream?
	Yeah.
	Excuse me.
	At least for a little, yeah.
	All right, Maddie's going to do a stream on Twitch.
	Twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	So, okay.
	Those of you who are watching on Twitch, we're going to do it right here in just a moment.
	So, hold on, guys.
	All right, Gig, well played to the panel.
	Actually, call to action first.
	Mia, I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this as a mass moment as an opportunity to give you a call to action.
	Would you consider stopping sex work entirely?
	Ever?
	Tonight.
	Not tonight.
	Tonight, Mia.
	Unfortunately, not.
	With the support of the whatever podcast, we will help you.
	You should.
	Do you're amazing?
	I would.
	Do you agree to go get your phone and delete your OnlyFans right now?
	I do not.
	Why?
	Mia, we're trying to help you.
	When you stay with us, you're trying to redeem your soul.
	I want to tell you something.
	The soul is still being redeemed.
	You could make millions by leading other girls that were doing OnlyFans and become an advocate and speaker.
	I'm doing it for you.
	Her journey has not ended yet.
	It hasn't ended yet.
	My journey is continuing.
	She hasn't reached the destination yet.
	Listen up, Tim.
	Hang on, Brian.
	Brian, can I sing a little song that I wrote?
	Please sing it.
	It looks like he has his guitar.
	Look at that pause.
	Yeah, I got my guitar.
	I'm ready to sing this song.
	Do you guys want to hear a great song?
	It's for the blonde in the back.
	For who?
	For who?
	Well, I was busy in the background.
	For you.
	Yeah, I was busy in the background.
	I was writing this song while we were having the conversation.
	Wait, it's not TOS, is it?
	No, of course not.
	Are you really going to go down on me?
	What the fuck?
	What?
	Oh, my God.
	What?
	No, down like, put me down.
	I mean, sorry.
	Holy shit.
	That took a really dark turn.
	That's not what I meant.
	It's not what I meant.
	I meant like putting me down.
	Sorry.
	I was just going to sing a song.
	Holy shit.
	I mean, that's all it takes.
	Just like that?
	Oh, my God.
	You want to hear a song and then it goes right to you.
	You're going to go down.
	That's not what I meant.
	I swear to God, that's not what I meant.
	It's me.
	All right.
	All right.
	You want to hear the song?
	Yes.
	All right.
	All right.
	Ready?
	You guys have to edit it for me and send it to me.
	We need to end the stream on this.
	Me.
	Me, me, fucking me.
	Oh, it's all about me.
	Oh, my God.
	What do you think?
	I swear I'm going to stream it on my social media.
	Send it to me and I'll put it.
	Me, me, me.
	Okay.
	Beautiful.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Me, me, me.
	I think it was good.
	I feel like I feel like it nailed it.
	I really got it right out of the.
	I mean, before I even played the song, I already got like in.
	All the lyrics.
	I was already offered the whole go-down thing.
	I thought you would enjoy this song.
	You can't be nice until the end.
	You have to put the poison, right?
	What do you mean?
	That was nice.
	He's never done that for anyone else.
	Okay, he's serenading me.
	I'm going to put it on my Instagram.
	I'm going to put it on my Instagram.
	It's beautiful.
	Mimi.
	It is beautiful.
	And dedicated to me, me, me.
	Trenton Underscore Kingsley donated $30.
	Brian, have you seen Mia's latest video?
	Disavow.
	I think it's a big deal.
	She doesn't want to be saved.
	She belongs to the streets.
	Michaela, fellow WA resident here.
	What watch you rocking today?
	The Balin Blue Decatier, of course.
	Why don't we?
	You know what?
	We will give Mia a job at the whatever podcast if she agrees to delete her own weekends.
	Oh, my God.
	It pays starting $17 an hour.
	You do Madison's.
	You think you would do it?
	Oh, my God.
	You get to do Madison's.
	You'll be a second helmet girl.
	Oh.
	You'll be second helmet girl.
	The perks, you get day-old chips.
	Ooh.
	Yeah, day-old chips.
	Wonderful.
	You get to clean the bathroom.
	You get Celsius.
	You get Celsius.
	You get water.
	You get water, you get...
	You get pepper spray.
	Air 17.
	You say 17 an hour.
	An opportunity for the quality, man, to actually appreciate the transformation that you.
	I'm transforming.
	I did say I was going to school.
	Transform.
	I'm also doing that.
	Or you can.
	Or you can continue the dark road that you're going on.
	Unfortunately, how you're not afraid.
	Darkness.
	I think I'm just going to be able to do that.
	We can fix you, Mia.
	We will fix you.
	She's a work in progress.
	I'm a work in progress.
	I mean, there's no.
	I've never said I was going to do this forever.
	Just kidding.
	She's irredeemable.
	Anyways, so with that said, we're going to do a Twitch raid.
	Love you, Mia.
	You're my favorite OFD gen. Just kidding.
	There's a couple other apps for you.
	But you're one of my top.
	You're definitely my favorite.
	You have over 10 favorites?
	It's not even 10 girls, not one wife.
	I think after being here three times.
	It's like your favorite criminal, you know?
	Yeah, that's fair.
	Your favorite serial killer.
	There's a legal one.
	Yeah, anyways.
	Anyway, no, she's good people.
	She's good people.
	She's our amazing.
	Yeah, she was really very good faith.
	Thank you.
	Everyone in the panel, I don't take any of this personally.
	To Gal in the Red, I truly hope you visit an Orthodox Church.
	And I'm sure that we can help you find a sponsor if you'd like to.
	Damn, and I think that you and your husband would really enjoy it.
	Look at this.
	And again, well played to the panel.
	Look at that.
	Interesting.
	Thank you.
	Anyways, so, okay.
	GG, well played to the panel.
	Last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	We will be live again.
	Well, Maddie's going to do a stream on Twitch, twitch.tv/slash/whate tomorrow.
	Sunday with our next dating talk, 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara.
	We're going to do a Twitch raid to Aladar.
	I'm going to raid on YouTube.
	He's playing incredibly popular.
	Classic Fresh.
	And a lot of guilds that are still.
	He's got 100 viewers.
	Tell him.
	Oh, boys, boys, boys.
	Tell him that he has to go into the ocean here next to Ratchet.
	This town's called Ratchet, by the way.
	How does this look fun?
	Guild's like grossly snowy.
	Tell him, tell him.
	Tell him when you go over there, boys, and we raid him, that he has to drown his own character.
	Oh, my God.
	But that's when a lot of these players that you're.
	Is that kind of dark?
	I don't know.
	Watching playing, okay.
	I'm gonna send the raid.
	Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
	Tell him that he has to go drown this character right now.
	I'm watching him the key tag because tell him he has to.
	Tell him Brian told him to do it.
	Okay, we'll see what he says.
	Okay, he's playing World of Warcraft classic, folks.
	Is that town actually called Ratchet?
	It is called Ratchet.
	I love that.
	Yeah, you would be great on that.
	Whoa!
	Oh, geez.
	Oh, how's it going, guys?
	Lower the volume.
	Lower the volume.
	Thank you very much for the raid again, dude.
	Kill my character.
	What?
	You want me to drown my character?
	Wait, can you show the drown my character?
	Why is that?
	Can you show the channel?
	You know, he lives, right?
	This isn't hardcore.
	I get to.
	Oh, he's hardcore?
	Drown your character.
	No, it's not hard.
	Oh, he's doing it.
	He's doing it.
	Wait, watch.
	Brian said, drown my character.
	Okay, Brian says so.
	We will drown the character.
	Okay, here we go.
	All right, ready?
	Last word.
	So so.
	He's playing in the spin and into the water we go.
	Oh boy.
	Hey, why is my breath thing not coming up?
	Oh boy.
	Okay.
	My breath thing should be coming up.
	Why is that not coming up?
	It's going to happen, boys.
	I should be drowning, right?
	It's not hacks.
	He's immortal.
	I literally should be.
	No, seriously, I should be drowning soon.
	Touch reload?
	Just wait for it.
	It should be coming up.
	I don't know why it's not showing my breath.
	Does it start like acting crazy?
	Or does it just like it takes a bit?
	I don't know what's going on.
	There's no, like, I will be drowning, though.
	I just don't know where the thing is.
	I'm not invincible.
	Brian knew, did he?
	Brian knew.
	Anyways, welcome everyone.
	How was the podcast today?
	Unfortunately, I'm sorry.
	I did not get to check it out at all.
	I was busy all day today, and then there it is.
	I'm drowning.
	Here you guys go.
	I'm drowning.
	Is he Canadian?
	Oh.
	We're wrapped.
	Oh.
	Is he Canadian?
	Oh, my God.
	No tire.
	There you go.
	Boom.
	All right.
	All right.
	Now, now, now he is Canadian.
	Anyways, okay, cool.
	What the fuck did I do?
	Okay.
	Anyways, okay, guys.
	07's in the chat.
	Good night, guys.
	We're sending you over to Andrew.
	Drop Andrew a subscription, a subscribe.
	Thank you, guys.
	Hope you guys have a good night.
	Oh, seven.
	It was nice meeting you.
	Thank you for this.
	Wait, actually, wait, hold on.
	Let me just.
	Okay, one last time.
	I'm sorry.
	Sorry.
	I don't want to screw this guy.
	Joe donated $30.
	Brain, Maddie, Andrew, Nick, keep killing it.
	Have a good night, guys.
	Thank you, bro.
	Brian, get Shania back on.
	Damn it.
	Oh, yeah, she's cool.
	Yeah, we'll get her back on.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, 07's in the chat.
	Good night, guys.

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