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FERAL Feminist RAGE QUITS?! Andrew Wilson HEATED DEBATE! House Of The Strumpet! | Dating Talk #170

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	With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	Please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation.
	Starting with you, go ahead.
	My name is Kay.
	I am 27, and I am from Indiana, and I do OnlyFans.
	All right.
	Welcome.
	My name is Paloma.
	I'm 20 and I literally live in Isla Vista.
	You go to UCSB?
	No, I just graduated CC.
	Are you going to transfer to UCSB?
	I will be doing that eventually.
	Like in the fall?
	Can I have you scoot your microphone this way or scoot your chair that way?
	Sure.
	Taking Gap year, going to UCSB the following year.
	Okay.
	But you're going to be living in IV.
	I live in IV.
	Okay.
	For the gap year.
	For the gap year.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	What are you studying at what are you studying?
	I'm a psychology major, so I transferred with my site.
	And that's what you'll be doing at UCSB?
	I'll be doing sociology.
	They don't have psychology.
	Sociology at UCSB.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I am a student, and I am a courtesan at the Moonlight Venny Ranch.
	My name is Lauren Roses, and I focus on Tantra and hypnotherapy.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I am 31.
	Okay.
	And now I had a question for you.
	You've been on the show a couple times.
	Yes.
	What, like four times, I think?
	And you're a courtesan.
	Yes.
	Have you, I'm just curious, have you received from the that you can directly source coming from your appearances on the show?
	Yeah.
	Have you had clients from the whatever podcast?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	They're very.
	Oh, I mean, I can't count.
	That's how many.
	Can't count.
	You've been busy.
	I've been busy.
	We've sent you a lot of business.
	I've been very busy.
	But you know what?
	I will say this.
	You know, they come seek this audience comes seeking a specific service?
	Yes.
	They like Tantra.
	You got a lot of Tantrics in here.
	I got you.
	And a lot of couples.
	Couples?
	Yeah.
	You got a lot of people that want to experiment with Tantra and couples.
	So that's, yeah.
	I could show you.
	Tantras.
	How many, like, what do you think?
	Like, 100 from the whatever?
	Yeah, I mean, at least.
	Yeah.
	100 viewers?
	Yeah, I would think.
	I would think so, yeah.
	Like, do they tell you?
	They're like, hey, let's tell you on the whatever podcast.
	I want to utilize your services.
	Yeah, well, everything's private, but I mean, I would definitely.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But everything, like, you know, from if I was to, like, block out the words and then have the message whatever, like, say how many people did it, it was definitely over 100.
	Absolutely.
	More than 200?
	Probably.
	Holy shit.
	I mean, it's been like a year.
	Wait, so hold on.
	A couple other questions.
	So, so what's that thing called?
	Attorney client privilege?
	Attorney client.
	Oh, yeah.
	Like hooker client privilege?
	Sorry, like courtesan.
	Courtesan?
	What?
	Courtesan client.
	Wait, what is hooker client privilege?
	Wait, what's that?
	Well, you said you can't.
	Oh, well, I just don't disclose anyone's name or anything.
	Of course.
	But if you were to tell me how many said the word whatever that was specifically related to the podcast, I could pull up like, I could count the word one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
	And so, wait, are you typically booking them?
	Like, they'll message you on Instagram?
	Is that typical?
	Through the ranch.
	Oh, through the ranch.
	They'll hit up the ranch and they'll be like, I saw Lauren on the website.
	They like Tantra.
	You got a lot of Tantrics in here.
	They're curious.
	That's what it is.
	They want Tantra.
	Oh, okay.
	And they like it.
	That's good to know.
	Yeah.
	That's good to know.
	You got a lot of experience.
	People are interested.
	I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
	They're curious.
	They're curious.
	They're curious about the tips.
	Any virgins?
	Have you?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	You've got virgins?
	They're curious about their sexuality, yes.
	It's fun.
	Well, I mean, you know, you've been on the show a couple times.
	Yeah.
	You know, you're, you know, despite what you do, you're probably one of the nicest guests, most pleasant guests we've ever had.
	I've been through the blender of life, so I think that probably helped a little bit.
	So if they are gonna go to a prostitute, it's legal.
	If they are gonna go to a courtesan, I mean, I kind of gotta give you, do I give you the endorsement?
	I don't know.
	Well, I definitely, well, you know.
	I don't endorse prostitution, but if they're gonna do it, I feel like you're gonna like they're gonna probably gonna get in trouble for a second.
	They're gonna have like a good experience, you know, because you seem like you know, you're professional.
	You're a consummate professional.
	So, yeah.
	I have to be able to give 100%.
	If you can't give 100%, then it's not worth it.
	It's not worth my time.
	And if I'm tired, I reschedule.
	Yeah.
	And then I give a special because I cannot be tired when I'm having an intimate moment because then I'm thinking about myself.
	You got to be the best.
	It's game day.
	Yes.
	It's fucking game day.
	That's what they taught us in the retreats.
	said you have to be here and and i remember my coach like so one of my coaches uh well he's not a coach but he's uh he was actually score he is a tantric practitioner and he actually fought in afghanistan and went to the war and he recovered using tantra And he's very good, but he always is like, stay with me, stay with me.
	He recovered from the war?
	He had a lot of trauma, and he recovered.
	He had a lot of through the war, yeah.
	No, but he, how did he like through sex?
	Yes.
	And through intimacy, like being present, like Tantra teaches presence.
	Presence.
	Yeah.
	100% or nothing.
	Or it's not worth it.
	100% or nothing.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	All right, there you go.
	Awesome.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	My name is Lillianne.
	I'm 19, and my occupation, I guess I'm a student and a music producer, but I guess that's also what I'm studying is music production.
	That's what you're studying?
	Yeah.
	Where are you from?
	I grew up here in LA.
	I was donated $69.
	Are you the best toy in the basement?
	Cannot blink.
	It's dark.
	Send help.
	Poor favor.
	Yeah, we Gustavo has been kidnapped.
	Uh-oh.
	Yeah.
	Still got $69.
	He should have called the police.
	Thank you, Gustavo.
	I mean, and you said you had a funeral this morning?
	I did.
	My really good friend passed away last year yesterday.
	So that's honestly why I was more than fashionably late, was because I had a funeral this morning for my very good friend.
	May he rest in peace.
	I'm so sorry.
	Yeah, sorry to hurt.
	That's life.
	I don't know.
	He's in a better place now.
	That's how I like to think of it.
	He has people that care about him.
	It's definitely hard, but he definitely has people like me that care about him.
	I mean, obviously.
	But like, yeah.
	This is somebody you like grew up with?
	Not grew up with.
	I say.
	Sorry.
	He was a musician.
	So I met him this year, but he was a dope person.
	He was awesome.
	He was just one of those people where he walks into the room, you know?
	If that makes any sense whatsoever.
	But yeah, he was awesome.
	He was a great person.
	He was a great artist.
	He passed away yesterday?
	Yesterday.
	That's crazy.
	You've been doing this.
	Props to you.
	That's why I only fashioned.
	Wait, that's still valid.
	Wait.
	He passed away yesterday.
	And the funeral is today.
	Is it normal for a funeral, the turnaround on the funeral, to be back in the middle?
	I've had gone to a funeral.
	That was like a two days turnaround time.
	That was kind of, I mean, I had the same thing kind of happen two weeks ago where I also knew someone who passed away or it was my friend's dad who passed away and they had the funeral a day after.
	I think it has to do about the embalming.
	Some people don't believe in embalming and I think that's what it, yeah.
	Yeah, that's fair.
	I mean, yeah, honestly, I guess it's different for everyone, but yeah.
	And wait, he was a musician, you said?
	Yeah.
	Like famous musician, or?
	He was well known.
	I wouldn't say like Michael Jackson, but he was known.
	And was it like a guy you were dating?
	No, I wasn't dating him.
	He was just, he was a good friend of mine.
	Like, I would just, he would be at the studio and I would be at the studio and we were kind of like, I guess in the same vicinity, and that's kind of how we became friends too through mutual friends.
	But yeah, I mean, I wasn't dating.
	He was just a, he was a good friend of mine.
	He was a dope person.
	Wait, are you sure he didn't like pass, you know, he didn't pass like a couple days ago and then you heard about yesterday or he passed yesterday?
	Yesterday.
	What time?
	I heard that something was wrong in the morning and I was he in the hospital or something or I'm not too sure on the details, but kind of.
	I'm not quite sure honestly.
	Was it like an OD or?
	I honestly don't know honestly.
	I don't know if that's like appropriate to ask.
	I don't even like want to know the answer honestly.
	I just seriously.
	It's fair.
	I just hope that he's in a better place, honestly.
	I don't even, I don't even know if I want to know because I feel like that'd like make it like feel worse, you know?
	How old was he?
	He was young.
	He was in his 20s.
	Okay.
	I've just never heard if I've never heard of somebody passing and then the funeral arrangements being made for the following day.
	As somebody who's been to funerals, I've never.
	I know.
	I haven't either until literally last week.
	Like literally, donated $69.
	Hypnotized Brian to quirk his big dumpy.
	Okay.
	Money to spent.
	That like killed the vibe this morning.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	I didn't know that.
	What about you?
	All right.
	Well, my name's Josie, or Josie with the work.
	I'm an artist, hustler, singer, songwriter, model.
	That's really what I do.
	Age?
	I'm 25.
	All right.
	And where are you from?
	I'm from Wisconsin, actually.
	Like, super up north, Wisconsin, but I live out here in LA.
	I'm trying to think, what is Wisconsin?
	Like, Milwaukee, Milwaukee Bucks, Green Bay, Packers, Wisconsin.
	How long have you been in LA?
	I've been in LA for five years now.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	My name's Grace.
	I'm 18.
	I'm studying sociology at UCSB right now.
	And right now I'm working on campus as well.
	All right.
	Sorry, you said you're studying what again?
	Sociology and minoring in psychology.
	Which is the last time.
	That's so cool.
	Good.
	All right.
	What about you?
	My name's Allison.
	I'm 30 and I work for a technology company.
	I think that's it.
	30.
	Tech company.
	Where are you from?
	Oh, I'm from Texas.
	Texas.
	Okay.
	I grew up in Wisconsin, though, when I was younger.
	Yeah, but I've been living in Texas.
	45 minutes south of Milwaukee.
	Okay, like Racini or the Kenosha or something.
	McCuanago.
	Shout out.
	Okay.
	I'm Abigail.
	I'm 20, and I'm a leasing agent, and occasionally I coach boys' gymnastics.
	Said 20, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Welcome, everybody.
	Guys, Andrew Wilson will be joining us a little bit later on.
	Yo, TV Spectre, thank you for the gifted subs.
	Andrew Wilson will be joining us via call-in a little bit later on during the show.
	He had a couple things going on here, but fear not, he will be joining us.
	So we're going to go around the table once more.
	What is everybody's current relationship status?
	So are you single, talking stage, situation ship, friends with benefits, relationship married, polycule, sex cult, whatever it may be.
	And, oh, yeah, so if you're single, how long have you been single?
	Wait, I'm sorry.
	I'm going to pull a Larry David here.
	Was there really a funeral?
	Just, if you're lying, just be honest.
	What the fuck?
	Like, it's okay.
	Yeah.
	There's really a funeral?
	I won't be mad if there wasn't.
	It just seems a bit dubious.
	No, I mean, I understand that.
	I mean, I didn't think that was fun.
	I'm going to come off like a massive asshole if there was a funeral.
	Well, I mean, it could have been as the religion.
	Some religions don't like embalming fluid.
	And I don't know which religion.
	Some cultures do embalming fluid.
	I don't know if you're what.
	You might just be a massive asshole, honestly.
	Could be.
	Could be.
	You're being honest.
	Well, it's pretty.
	It's rare, but it does happen.
	There's some people that know how you die.
	Some people don't die.
	I honestly don't want to know, honestly, because I feel like that'd make it arguably worse.
	I mean, occasionally.
	Well, I know someone does.
	Jamaican culture, they can't amputate.
	Like, well, that's why Bob Marley, he didn't want to amputate.
	So, I mean, I'm sure that there's embalming fluid.
	You have to be natural.
	Like, it depends on what culture it is.
	That is very true.
	I think that's why, honestly, what happened two, three weeks ago, now that affected me a lot too, but like, I don't know.
	It's been like, it's just been a crazy three weeks for sure.
	But they had the funeral two days after, and I missed it because it was so soon and I felt terrible.
	Yeah, they probably don't believe in embalming fluid.
	Yeah, it honestly depends.
	I don't know what religion they were, though.
	I don't know what he was doing.
	Look, the only reason I'm kind of questioning it, it may be totally valid.
	I could be wrong.
	I could be an asshole.
	The reason I'm questioning it.
	You are.
	Could be getting cremated.
	So the reason I'm questioning it is because you guys were scheduled to be here at 4 p.m.
	You guys were nearly two hours late.
	And then the fact that you found out, like, he passed yesterday.
	Yeah.
	As somebody who's been to funerals, I've never, of the funerals I've gone to, I've been to like 10.
	It's never been the next day.
	That was my first next day funeral, too.
	I've been to, I think, four funerals through my life, but it also wasn't a super formal funeral.
	It was like people who cared about him.
	They gathered and kind of like held like a ceremony in the morning.
	Didn't the family reach out to you?
	I didn't know his family.
	Well, isn't it?
	He lived out here alone.
	How did he get invited to the house?
	How did you find out?
	Mutual friends.
	It was like a friend funeral.
	It was mutual friends.
	Well, like, he didn't have family?
	There were no family there?
	I didn't know him well enough to question his family past, but I knew him well enough to show up to his funeral the next day.
	But, I mean, typically there's family that's going to arrange a funeral.
	Some people don't have family.
	Some people don't have good relationships with their family.
	I'm not sure.
	I'm sorry.
	Can I interrupt?
	Why is this something we're even like trying to like?
	Because truth is important.
	That is very true.
	That is true.
	I mean, yeah, but it's also like a private situation.
	I don't really know why you're trying to prize.
	I do know her friend died.
	She was at a funeral this morning.
	Definitely she's not lying about her.
	Yeah.
	You don't know her.
	She's not there.
	I don't know why you had to drive so she could get ready in the car.
	This is really what happened.
	Like, I think that's.
	I think it's fair to ask questions under the circumstances.
	If you don't agree with her.
	It's fair, but it's weird.
	Okay, cool.
	I'm just assuming there's no embalming fluid.
	He could be cremated, and that's what I'm assuming.
	Anyways, we'll move on.
	I'll accept it.
	But I have a couple questions.
	Anyways, relationship status.
	So if you're single, how long have you been single?
	What's your longest relationship and your current relationship status?
	Go ahead.
	I am currently in the best relationship I've ever been in, and we've been together almost two years, which is also my longest relationship.
	Okay, two years.
	And it's not an open relationship, correct?
	No.
	Okay, you guys are monogamous, correct?
	Carolina Girl 13 donated $69.
	You boys ever met a real country girl talking true blue out in the woods down home.
	Country, come on.
	Let me fix you, B. You'll love it.
	Sounds like a song.
	Let me fix it.
	I don't need to.
	I don't be fine.
	And I like that.
	I don't need to be fixed.
	I'm good.
	I'll stay how I am.
	Thank you, though.
	Brian learned to speak English, donated $69.
	English is my second language.
	Yeah, what's the first?
	French.
	Are you from America?
	I'm a citizen.
	Have you been to the Eiffel Tower early?
	Wow.
	That's really cool.
	Say something in French.
	So, I mean, I was born in France, but then I moved.
	Hey, guys, stop.
	Born in France, but then I moved to the U.S. when I was five.
	That's really cool.
	I'm in Eiffel Tower.
	Oh, have you been to the Jim Morrison?
	What's up?
	Why are you laughing?
	Because I asked them to stop.
	I know, I just thought that was kind of funny.
	Because I asked them to stop.
	I don't know why.
	There's just a lot going on right now.
	Because everybody was so late.
	We didn't have time to do the pre-show.
	But so one of the things we typically tell people during the pre-show is no sidebar conversations.
	Unfortunately, because we're starting so late, Nick didn't have time to do the 10 to 15 minute pre-show that is requisite to make sure that we have a good production, a smooth show.
	One of the things, so she didn't know, she knew, because she's been on the show before, is you don't have sidebar conversations while somebody else is talking.
	It's just a rule of, you got a weird, you got a bad attitude.
	Just like, I'm just explaining the rules to you.
	I don't need the attitude.
	I can take blame for that, though, like, everything that's happening right now.
	Yeah.
	Like, the second.
	Yeah.
	Why is it on me?
	Sorry, guys.
	Why is it on me?
	She's talking.
	Here, can you just say that?
	No, y'all take the blame.
	Like, what's happening?
	Because I was, that's what I mean.
	When you're late, you're late.
	I was late.
	We were late.
	Okay.
	I didn't see.
	All right.
	So.
	Held the show up, man.
	Okay.
	Your relationship status?
	Single and situationship.
	Longest relationship?
	Like a year and a half.
	Okay.
	So how long have you been single?
	I guess like 10 months.
	Carolina guy 14 donated $69.
	Sign me you PPP.
	Please be fit though.
	Drop the Carolina Girl 13.
	Please be fit though.
	Okay, cool.
	Thank you, Carolina girl.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you for your TTS.
	So wait, you're single/slash situationship.
	You've been single for 10 months.
	So just a couple points of clarification here.
	So how long have you been in this situationship?
	I don't know, like six months or something.
	Six months?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And are you, since you're single, are you entertaining other options?
	I mean, hold on.
	The Bron Asons donated $69.
	I guess why Scott Peterson killed his wife.
	These women make life horrible for the soldiers out there.
	You crazy?
	Please bring up how perfect Patrice O'Neill was.
	These women are brainless.
	Can you pass me that picture back there?
	Yo, Bro Naissance, good to see you back in the chat, man.
	That first part's pretty crazy, bro.
	I don't endorse, I disavow the W Patrice O'Neal.
	Rest in peace.
	Can I get some RIPs in the chat for Patrice O'Neill?
	Gone too soon.
	Here, you just hold him for a couple minutes, I guess.
	Okay, so what's your orientation?
	Straight, bi, ban?
	Bi.
	So you date men and women?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And the situationship, is it with a man or a woman?
	A man.
	Okay.
	Given that you're in a situationship and you consider yourself single, are you dating other people?
	No.
	During the six-month period of time that you've been in the situationship, have you dated other people?
	No.
	Slept with other people?
	Yeah.
	Hookups?
	Yeah.
	So like one-time things?
	Some were like two thousand, or one was a two-time thing, but.
	And so is it kind of you've been seeing each other for six months, but you're it's open on both ends then.
	Like it's not it's not exclusive, it's not monogamous.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	And so are you currently seeing like when I say seeing, like are there other people that you're currently involved with, hooking up with?
	Okay.
	Do you want more from this situationship or are you happy as is?
	I honestly like do not know.
	Hello, question from the interception.
	Sorry.
	I honestly don't know.
	Have you ever had a conversation about oh yeah multiple well who who initiated those conversations him or you?
	Both of us.
	And so how would those conversations go?
	Just kind of like what the fuck are we doing?
	I don't really know.
	Do you want to date?
	No.
	Do you want to date?
	Yeah.
	Do you want to date?
	No.
	Do you want to date?
	Yeah.
	Wait, has this been like on again, off again?
	It's been just kind of like he wanted to date, I didn't.
	I wanted to date, he didn't.
	So on again, off again, just like.
	Wait, just so I have the order correct.
	He wanted to date, you didn't.
	Then you wanted to date, he didn't.
	So he was interested in like a title first?
	Yeah.
	And then you turned him down.
	Is that correct?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Why did you turn him down?
	I don't know.
	I was just like freshly out of a relationship.
	I was not mentally stable by any means.
	So.
	When you say fresh out of a relationship, so how long was that relationship?
	Like a year.
	A year.
	Okay.
	So, I mean, how fresh?
	Like, was he your rebound, kind of?
	Um, I wouldn't really call him that.
	I think maybe at first, but then.
	Also, how soon after your one-year relationship ending did you meet him?
	Two months.
	Two months.
	Okay.
	And then you also said you were not in the mental place.
	What do you mean by that?
	Like, I just, like, my relationship was super.
	Wait, hold on.
	We need you to, like, straight because you're ducking behind.
	Okay.
	That's good.
	Perfect, perfect.
	Go ahead.
	You said your mental condition was not great?
	Yeah, I mean, the relationship was just super mentally abusive.
	And I just like already have dealt with mental health issues.
	So I just like felt like I wasn't really in a place.
	How did you mentally abuse him?
	Girl.
	You said, oh, you said it was mentally abusive.
	How did you abuse him?
	Well, I didn't.
	Oh, okay.
	That wasn't specified.
	How was he mentally.
	Can we?
	Well.
	I would not like to elaborate on that.
	Plead the fifth.
	You don't need to give us specifics, but can you tell us what can you def well?
	Can you define mentally abusive then?
	No.
	You can look it up.
	Y'all can look it up.
	Y'all old enough.
	Well, I could look it up, but it might not correspond with your assessment of the meaning of that.
	Well, um.
	I think, you know, people can look up what mentally abusive is.
	There's a lot of manipulation that goes into that, different forms of it.
	That's all I'm really going to say.
	Was he physically abusive?
	Not going to speak on that.
	Were you physically abusive?
	No.
	Okay.
	So in this case, it was not.
	What underscore a underscore waste underscore of underscore time donated $69.
	Just kick the girl in the green shirt.
	She clearly doesn't want to be there and is just going to be a burden to the show.
	Get rid of her so the people who want to be there have a better time.
	So true.
	We'll make it work.
	We'll make it work.
	It's all good.
	Lol Paladins donated $69.
	Love the show.
	Off to a good start.
	Calling out lies made the other woman uncomfortable because they know when other women are lying.
	She'd be a good wing woman for a cheater.
	Always trust your girls.
	Cheater.
	English.
	All cheaters.
	That's real.
	Oh, man.
	She said she was a husband.
	Accountability.
	Accountability, you know?
	Accountability is kryptonite.
	So, okay.
	So you were in a situationship for six months.
	And so, not currently, but previously you were like kind of seeing other people at the same time.
	But this guy's been like the most interested of the other people that you've been in.
	Do you, I guess, during that situationship or like any previous dating experience, like, would you consider when you're seeing multiple people, did you have a roster?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	What 20-year-old doesn't have a roster?
	Like, let's be real.
	We all got a roster.
	And that's the truth.
	She's hurting her.
	When I was 20, I had her.
	I didn't know.
	Care 2 green shirt is going troll and keep up a BTCH vibe.
	Maybe Andrew will set her straight if she lasts that long.
	No, look.
	She loves.
	She'll love it.
	Wait, you'll love it.
	Love it.
	No, she loves it.
	There you go.
	I feel like we're all chilling.
	Nothing's honest.
	Is it the magnificent challenge?
	Yeah, we're going to go like that.
	I'm a little, I'm sassy.
	It's all good.
	Like, she's a bit sassy.
	I'm a bit sassy.
	It's all good.
	I'm in my drizzle-drizzle.
	I'm in my soft guy era.
	So drizzle-drizzle.
	You saw that.
	Soft guy era.
	Drizzle drizzle.
	So I'm a little sassy.
	She's matching energy.
	She's getting it back.
	It's all good, guys.
	We're going to have a good show.
	Don't even trip.
	So, anyways, okay, so you had a roster.
	You said, what 20, 20-year-old college girl doesn't have a roster?
	Yeah.
	That's a fair point.
	What's like, like, what's the biggest the roster's ever been?
	We talking.
	Because I feel like you got Riz.
	I feel like you got game.
	So I feel like you're dating you very much.
	And you date men and women, too.
	Right?
	It's true.
	Yeah.
	So that's like double the pool of people you got.
	Absolutely.
	Like, that's.
	The tender pool is huge.
	Huge.
	Huge.
	Big.
	Okay.
	What's the biggest of the rosters?
	I don't like know what you mean.
	Like three people, four people, five people.
	Oh, I just, guys, I just don't know.
	Give us a range.
	It doesn't have to be an exact number.
	Maybe like 15 or something.
	15.
	Like people I'm actually considering?
	Like to like kick it with?
	Or like people I'm just like.
	Yeah, I guess we got a different serial donated 69 roster.
	For the panel, can you explain what the fabric of American culture is in modern society and your viewpoints and experience?
	I got nothing to say about that.
	Hold on.
	We'll get to that, Killa.
	I'm going to read that.
	We're going to get through.
	Or I'll save it.
	I'll pull it back up in a bit.
	We need to get through the relationship stuff first, though.
	I'll get that pulled up later.
	What the fabric of American culture is a dating show.
	Okay, it's a history.
	I'll have it.
	I can answer that one.
	So, okay, so for a roster.
	Right.
	So, how about like just people not necessarily hooking up with?
	So, break it down two ways.
	Not people you're hooking up with, but people you have talking to.
	Like, seriously talking to her, I just like responding to them.
	Like, you're messaging.
	Like, it could have been like you've been talking for a couple days from a dating app.
	What do you mean by talking, though?
	Because I have like literally talking.
	Like, having a conversation.
	Yeah, like your conversation.
	Oh, I don't, I do that with just like one person.
	And then on the other.
	Hold on.
	I meant literally talking.
	Yeah, no, no, I get what you're saying.
	No, you're thinking figuratively talking.
	What does that mean?
	So we're talking would indicate like some further degree.
	Yeah, no, I'm telling you.
	It's usually just one person.
	Right, but so I'm talking about literally talking.
	Yes, literally talking.
	Literally talking is talking right now.
	No, yeah, I get what you're saying.
	No, but you said you had a roster of 15 people.
	Yeah, I mean, I just Snapchat them.
	Right, but so you're literally talking to them.
	No, because we usually don't.
	No, I don't mean literally in person.
	I mean literally just conversating, whether it's Instagram, maybe dating apps.
	Twice.
	Twice at most.
	I don't really.
	But you said your roster was 15.
	Well, I thought you meant roster by like how many people I'm Snapchatting or how many people like are into me type thing.
	But that's like I could reciprocate.
	I'm assuming if they're into you, you guys have conversated.
	No, a lot of them are very boring.
	No, but no, no, no.
	But okay.
	So when you say they're into you, they must have expressed their interest in some way.
	Yeah.
	Via a communication.
	It's usually like Snapchat.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	I'd put that in your talking category.
	It's usually just like, okay, so I'm going to put it like this for you.
	I usually Snapchat without words.
	what do you mean like just kind of like a face snap or like you just sent photos I gotta be at the beach or something.
	Literally.
	You'll just send a photo.
	Like, you just do emojis or whatever?
	A photo?
	Maybe you have my cat.
	You know, it could be something.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	The floor, even the wall.
	Maybe just a little bit.
	And you put a caption?
	Do you put a caption?
	Sometimes I'm like, look at my cat.
	Sometimes I don't say anything.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	It's like, uh.
	Sure.
	But, you know, and I don't really respond to them like until 15 hours after they respond to me.
	That's.
	Wait, like intentionally?
	Not intentionally.
	I just like don't care to talk to them.
	Oh.
	So that's usually like around like 10.
	So is it like, are you sending like nudes to these guys?
	Absolutely.
	I am not.
	Do not get it twisted.
	I'm not sending nudes.
	It's literally just like a picture of the wall or like of like my cat, which is a real cat before you want to twist that around too.
	But how do they get your Snapchat?
	From Tinder or from Instagram?
	I don't know.
	Well, do any of them, have you met them in person?
	I've met a couple in person.
	Usually when they're really weird, I un-add them.
	When they're not, I just kind of keep snapping them.
	So in terms of, because you said you were in the situation, you're still in the situationship that you've been in for six months, but you'd like be dating, sleeping with other people.
	So at any given time, what's the most amount of people that you've been hooking up with at the same time?
	Two.
	Have you ever done like two in a day?
	No.
	Like a 24-hour period?
	No.
	72-hour period?
	No.
	A week?
	Yeah.
	Week.
	Okay, so a week, okay.
	All right.
	Killer of cereal donated $69.
	Let me specify the question.
	After your opinion on the fabric of culture in America, how do you think it affects the modern dating society?
	Okay.
	I got an answer for that.
	We'll get to that in a bit.
	So, okay, related to dating culture.
	Okay, so you have two X of those.
	I'll write that down.
	All right.
	So, okay.
	And is the guy who you're in a situation ship, he's also a student?
	Is he staying here for the summer?
	No.
	Are you guys going to do long distance or is that a rap then?
	I don't.
	I don't know.
	Wait, is he, because everybody just graduated?
	Did he graduate?
	No.
	Okay, so he's like a sophomore or a huge?
	He's my age.
	Okay, so like junior going into his junior year or some shit?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Something like that.
	Something like that.
	Okay.
	Is he in school?
	Mm-hmm.
	And so you guys gonna, is he dating other girls?
	Um.
	I mean, I don't know about dating, but definitely he's fucking other girls.
	Doesn't bother you at all?
	Depends on the girl.
	What do you mean?
	It just depends.
	On what?
	Does it bother you more if she's more or less attractive than you?
	That doesn't have anything to do with it.
	bearing what then what would be the uh maybe if she's clean or not Like, is it a race?
	I mean, yeah, that as well.
	Like, if she's white?
	Like, is it a race thing?
	You know I'm late?
	No, that's fine, but maybe you'd...
	I don't know.
	That's the stupidest question I've ever been asked.
	Okay, why is that the stupidest question?
	Because that's just, like, stupid.
	Like, it's 2024.
	I don't give a fuck if he fucks a white bitch or a black bitch or someone who's Asian.
	Like, I literally do not give a fuck.
	Do you want him to be monogamous with you?
	Do I want him to be what?
	Monogamous with you?
	I have a question.
	At this point.
	Okay, question.
	I've got a question.
	So I sometimes, if a man, like, that I'm interested in says he gets with an older woman, I start getting kind of feisty.
	I'm like, wait a second.
	Like, what she got that?
	Like, sometimes I'm like.
	Yeah.
	He's gone with an older woman.
	Sometimes it's like, ooh.
	Like, I don't really experience, like, I guess would say jealousy, like, for looks or anything.
	But I will say, if someone gets with someone that's older than me, I'm like, why do I got like some sort of anger about it?
	Like, I don't know.
	Like, I keep it to myself.
	I'll say, like, what is that?
	Like, if she did get with an older woman, I didn't really care.
	I honestly was more like, dude, like, that's weird.
	I feel like I can't compete with an older woman.
	Like, I don't know.
	Like, I just, that's how I feel.
	Like, I don't know.
	I feel like the way I view a man I'm involved with getting with other women, it's not really like a competition in my head.
	Yeah.
	I don't really view it as like, oh, she's prettier than me.
	I don't know what about the older thing.
	Yeah, because the prettier never got me to the point.
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	Wow.
	He is so real.
	All right.
	Thank you for that, man.
	I love that comment personally.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay.
	So what?
	I've never.
	So what is the differentiating factor then?
	Just like the type of person they are.
	Like if you're going to with somebody who's like really let her answer.
	Go ahead.
	Just like a freak, honestly.
	Wait, if the girl's a freak?
	Okay.
	Here's the way I say, I don't say freak like as in like in the sexual way.
	Just like a weirdo.
	Like her outward appearance, her personality.
	No, it's never about appearance.
	You got to get rid of that one.
	It's literally just about like their personality.
	Like if they're just kind of like strange, like I don't know, like just like immature, like.
	Immature?
	I don't know.
	Like, I don't know how to explain it.
	Like, if you're just like a weirdo, like, I'm going to kind of be like, why are you fucking with her?
	Like, but what?
	Like, is he introducing you to these chicks?
	Like, I, that.
	I was gonna say, have you ever got caught?
	Oh, wait, is this like, do you guys like, is it a threesome type thing?
	No.
	Because you're into girls, so maybe.
	Nope.
	But, like, if I was inclined to.
	I mean, he's not introducing me to these girls, but like, we were open, you know?
	It's a friend.
	It's been a friends with benefits for a while.
	But so if I was inclined to keep a girl in the situationship for six months or she wasn't interested, or, you know, if I was trying to fuck multiple different girls, it wouldn't occur to me to tell the main piece.
	Like, show her pictures of who I'm fucking.
	Tell her about the other girls I'm fucking.
	So I'm just confused how you've come to like how you're going to be.
	Well, we've just kind of been like open about it.
	I don't really know.
	So like he'll like he'll be laying in bed with you after he fucked you and be like, here's Tiffany.
	What do you think?
	Like that kind of thing.
	It won't be, what do you think?
	But it'll be like, hey, I fucked this girl, you know, a while ago.
	And so he'll tell you.
	I'll be like, oh, who is she?
	Like, you know, so he'll show you the IG.
	He'll show you the IG or what?
	I mean, I usually ask.
	I'm curious, okay?
	Like, I'm a nosy person.
	I'm a nosy person.
	I've got a question.
	And I've got an answer.
	Maybe.
	So let's say you meet up to hang with him, and you guys haven't yet hooked up for the hill.
	You and the guy.
	Me and the situation ship.
	Yeah, like you're meeting up, and he, I don't know if this has occurred, but he reveals to you before you guys have sex, hey, babe, this past weekend, I fucked this chick.
	Here she is.
	He doesn't call me that.
	Okay.
	Pumpkin, whatever you want.
	So, here's, and then you make the determination.
	Ah, that's a goofy bitch.
	That's a goofy bitch.
	And then do you choose to not fuck him after he reverses?
	I don't make the determination.
	Based off of their pictures.
	No, okay.
	Whatever.
	You said she's weird.
	You said if she's weird.
	I think you're like taking it from a standpoint, like, she's not in a relationship.
	So it's like, they kind of just do.
	We do what we want to do.
	It's better than like.
	When I said, like, I don't even know if she really, yeah.
	Yeah.
	But you said you feel a certain type of way.
	You get kind of twisted if he's like.
	I don't get twisted.
	Okay, whatever.
	Do you ever like, hold, stop stop saying that?
	If she feels like it's a goofy bitch, yeah.
	She's like, why are you fucking with me?
	Like, if I've met the girl, but they're not together, so she doesn't have a right to the given children.
	You know some of the chicks that he fucks.
	Maybe.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, if I know like the girl that he's fucking or he wants to fuck and I think she's kind of like, like I met her, like personality-wise, I'm like, she's kind of strange, you know, like she's like, something's wrong.
	I'm going to be like, that's weird.
	Like, if you fuck her, like, we're not going to be fucking.
	Oh, okay.
	So if he did fuck her.
	Wait.
	But don't you only find out after the fact if he fucked her?
	Like, he's telling you beforehand, babe.
	Oh, excuse me.
	Is it okay if I fuck this chick?
	We are really.
	Like, he'll ask you for the cosign.
	Like, honestly, yeah.
	That's so much better than like not being.
	Like, we're very much open.
	Like, I'll let him know who I'm interested in.
	I'll be like, yo, this guy texted me this.
	Like, I don't know.
	What do you think about it?
	He'll be like, this girl texts me this.
	I'm kind of into her.
	That's good.
	And we kind of just go based off of that.
	Like, it's not like a super like crazy situation.
	Okay.
	LeBron Aceon stoned $69.
	I don't agree with stoning, but the vibration bimbo is dumber than a bag of rocks.
	Question for the panel.
	Would you risk going to war on the front line or give up your right to vote?
	Who is the vibration bimbo?
	Yeah, who is the vibration bimbo?
	It's a crazy question.
	I'm not sure who the vibration bimbo is.
	I would like to know.
	You let us know.
	So actually, let's find out.
	Before we come back to this, so his question is, would you risk going to war on the front line or give up your right to vote?
	Now, recently, I think it was this past couple days, the House of Representatives passed something where men between the ages, I believe it's 18 to 25, 18 to 26, are automatically registered for the selective service.
	It pretty much hasn't changed anything.
	You had to, all men between, once they hit 18, they had to register for the selective service anyways.
	But now they're just automatically registered.
	I don't know if it really changes much.
	I'm going to have to look into it.
	But it is kind of topical.
	So again, the question, would you risk going to war on the front line or give up your right to vote?
	I'm giving up my right to vote because I'm weak and I will die the minute I go on the front line.
	Don't say that.
	Okay, whatever.
	What about you?
	I would not last on the front line.
	So you'd give up your right to vote?
	I would.
	Okay.
	So currently, because I'm in the embodied work and I'm disabled, I would say no.
	I guess I'd give up the right to vote.
	I'd have to.
	Yeah.
	I would have to go with the front line.
	So keep your right to vote.
	Keep my right to vote.
	Okay, what about you?
	I would probably be on the front line too.
	I would if I wasn't tomorrow.
	Wait, can you?
	Before I have you answer, you two, can you hold up your fingers like this to the camera?
	Okay, you got longer nails than her.
	Those nails are not.
	I'm also a violinist, so I have like mad positions.
	Wait, you're a violinist?
	Why didn't you bring your violin, bro?
	I'm just like, is that in a car?
	I don't bring my violin.
	Yo, can we get a fucking vibe?
	Nick, do we have a violin in the studio?
	No.
	Fuck.
	That actually isn't.
	That'd be so cool.
	I mean, like, I would have brought it, but I just like both of you all.
	Like, are you good, though?
	Yeah, seriously.
	That was like my life.
	Ooh, I like the violin with it.
	Why don't you tell me this shit?
	I don't know.
	Like, why are you really a nerd like that?
	Like, I don't know.
	But, okay, going.
	Hold on, guys, guys, guys, guys, stop.
	Okay.
	Sorry, no sidebars.
	Yeah, no sidebars.
	I'm sorry about that.
	I really do.
	Okay.
	So your nails, they're going to have to go.
	I mean, oh, like in general?
	Yeah, I don't think that's allowed.
	But I play katana from like Mortal Company.
	I don't think it's allowed in the military or whatever.
	Okay.
	That's fine.
	Give them my right to vote.
	Give up my right to vote.
	Oh, give up the right to vote.
	Tell me.
	I'm giving up the right to vote.
	I want a family.
	What?
	Okay.
	I want my kids to have a future.
	Yeah, for real.
	Exactly.
	I feel like if I have any daughters, I don't want them to be, you know, fighting for their rights.
	So I would fight for the rights.
	You would die in five minutes.
	That's right.
	I actually was kind of worried.
	I was kind of worried about the draft because my brother's 16.
	I mean, do I want to fight?
	So I'm kind of worried about that.
	I'd rather be with the man.
	That's what I have to do.
	That's fair.
	I don't want to be eating alive.
	I can't get killed after being sexually assaulted.
	What the fuck?
	Guys, no sidebar, please.
	Oh, well, they don't know.
	Okay.
	So.
	We didn't get the rules read to us.
	It's all good.
	All the nice advice, so it's just got to be one sidebar.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Well, she was saying something important.
	I was worried about the draft because my brother's 16 and he wants to be in the military.
	But I told him, I said, I'm going to train.
	He knows Muay Thai and he knows martial arts.
	And I told him, I said, I want to pay for the best trainer for you.
	I don't know if you're going to go into it or not.
	But I told him just yesterday, I had that conversation.
	And he's very mature.
	So I'm confident he's going to do well.
	Yes.
	I would agree.
	My dad was in the military, so he, you know, so I got a question for you.
	So do you currently live in this area?
	Yeah.
	And you go to the Santa Barbara City College.
	Well, you graduated, but you're planning to, you're taking a gap year, then you're going to go to University of California, Santa Barbara.
	Is kind of the situation you find yourself in where you've been in the situationship for six months, you've had roster, you've had periods where you're dating multiple people, hooking up with multiple people, doing the casual hookup thing.
	Would you say that's pretty common among like your friend group?
	Um, I mean, some people and my friend group are in a relationship, some people aren't, so yeah, yes, maybe for the single people, like, yeah, yeah, moving beyond friend group, like if you had to kind of look into your peers, so I guess people that are you know, freshmen, sophomore, juniors in city college, UCSB, would you say it's more common than not to be in kind of your situationship as compared to like long-term monogamous boyfriend, been you know, dating?
	I honestly, I feel like it's half half and half out here.
	Like, I've I know tons of people who are in situationships, some people who are just single doing their own thing, and I know people who are in like super committed, like gonna move in together type of situations.
	So, I think it's it's half and half, it just depends.
	Got it, okay.
	And what about you, your relationship status?
	I am single, I'm single currently.
	I've been single for a while now.
	I'm a big supporter of single and single.
	Uh, longest relationship, longest relationship, I would say about like maybe like two and a half, almost three years.
	All right, two and a half, three years, yeah.
	And but right now, you're doing the courtesan thing.
	I am, so technically, I had a question: Am I if I'm a relationship-based courtesan, real talk, and I have repeat clients who I've seen for years, technically, am I in a relationship with everyone?
	Nope, nope, okay, okay.
	I was just wondering.
	I was just wondering, I mean, if they're paying their clients, they're paying.
	So, okay, sure.
	I'm not gonna lie, I don't know what a courtesan is.
	She's a prostitute, yes, yes.
	Oh, okay, yeah, it's legal in Nevada, in Nevada.
	I work at the Moonlight Bunny Ranch.
	Oh, yeah, okay, yeah, okay, and it's legal.
	You want to give her a discount?
	A discount?
	I don't know, you seem kind of interested.
	I give a military discount.
	Do you do girls too?
	Oh, yeah.
	I need you to stop.
	We were supposed to talk about that afterwards.
	No, I just can't.
	I'll know.
	I just, I literally just don't know what that means.
	They have a Moonlight Bunny Ranch, and so it's a legal brothel in Nevada.
	And where people can go, it's completely legal.
	There's porn stars that work there.
	There's people that are just, you know, there's also dominatrixes that work there.
	I'm just more like I do the tantra and embodiment, but they have everybody there.
	So it's a safe place.
	There's 100% discreet, 100% everybody's in.
	It's, yeah, you just pay and you enjoy.
	That sounds lit.
	And it's safe.
	Okay.
	It's very safe.
	Got it.
	Yeah.
	Good times.
	What about you?
	Right now I'm single.
	What was the next question?
	Oh, longest relationship and how long have you been single?
	Right.
	I've probably been single for about like, I want to say eight months, nine months now.
	My longest relationship was a year and a half.
	Longest relationship.
	All right.
	And so you've been single for nine months.
	Was the relationship that ended nine months ago?
	Was that the 1.5 year relationship?
	No, the 1.5 year relationship.
	It was in high school.
	So I think my junior to senior year of high school, and then yes, and then the next one was the most recent one.
	And why did your most recent thing end?
	Honestly, we were both super busy all the time, like too busy to tend to each other's needs and see each other and shit like that.
	So I'd pretty much be working every single night and I go to school every single morning.
	So it was just like, I don't know, we just kind of grew apart.
	Okay.
	Nothing against him.
	He's a dope person.
	And so in that nine months that you've been single, What is the scope of any dating experiences you've had?
	Have you had like a short-term thing in that period?
	Um, I'd say kind of short-term, I guess, but it wasn't really that, it wasn't even that serious.
	Couple short-term or just a short-term?
	Oh, a short-term.
	Okay.
	Have you ever had a roster?
	Like, of people that want to talk to me or that I'm interested in talking to?
	I think the best way to look at how about just people like you're in a one-month period, people that there's a continuity and you're hooking up with them.
	So, like, multiple people that I would hook up with.
	I don't really see myself as like, I've always said this, but I don't know why.
	My mom said the same thing.
	It's like, she's like a one-man woman.
	And I don't know why, but my brain is like trained to think like that.
	Like, I just, I just don't think.
	And I've like, I've tried like casually hooking up and stuff like that, but it's just like I don't know.
	It's just not for me.
	Like, it just feels like.
	When you say you've tried, what do you mean?
	Like, I was interested in someone, and we both were too busy for a relationship, too busy for the label and stuff like that, but we both like we were both cool with each other.
	Like, we were just cool.
	We were on some friend shit.
	But yeah, it wasn't that.
	It wasn't serious like that or anything.
	Like, we were honestly, it was just like friends with benefits, kind of.
	Okay.
	So, right now, you've been single for nine months.
	You had maybe one or two things in between.
	Is there currently any guy in the picture?
	Right now, no.
	Yeah.
	There's nothing.
	There's not a single band in the past.
	Not even a guy you've never even met, but you're talking to.
	I mean, no.
	I mean, there are people that I'm interested in, like Fernando Tatis Jr.
	I mean, like, if he sees it.
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	Who the fuck is that guy?
	Are you a Dodgers fan?
	Huh?
	Are you a Dodgers fan?
	Oh.
	Baseball?
	Are you a Dodgers fan?
	I'm sorry.
	He's a big guy.
	People watch baseball?
	I'm all.
	That's my team, yeah.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Go Padres.
	Exactly.
	Go Padres on TV.
	Yeah, I'm Padres.
	Yellow and Brown.
	I believe yellow and brown.
	People love baseball.
	I want to be here.
	I will get slander for my wearing my hat, but I will still wear my hat.
	It's a Dodgers picture.
	So you have a crush on a professional baseball player?
	Yeah.
	Are you talking to him?
	I mean, I wish.
	I mean, like, if he sees it, then he's not being afraid of the drink.
	Is that the American dream, though?
	Like, you know, like that, that kind of sound.
	No, there's no.
	Have you slid into his DMs?
	No, but I should right now.
	You should.
	You should right now.
	You should.
	You should right now.
	You should be like, hey, like, if you see this, like, you should be, like, walking me up.
	And I think you need to text me.
	Or I could be like, just like, or I could try to strike him out.
	I'm going to try to strike him out.
	I just have to lose the nails first because I was a pitcher.
	But I don't know if you can hit underhand like that.
	Wait, you played softball?
	I did play softball.
	Period.
	What's your orientation?
	What do you mean?
	Orientation.
	Oh, my God.
	Did you date men?
	Did you date women?
	How's that stupid?
	Are you still in the street?
	Is this a stupid, like, that's just like I'm straight?
	Okay, why is that stupid?
	Because that's just like a, what's it called?
	Like a stereotype?
	Stereotype.
	Yeah.
	Stereotype.
	What was the fourth op in the podcast?
	You don't have any stereotypes?
	Yeah, whatever.
	Hold on.
	You don't have any stereotypes?
	Like, about what?
	Everyone has some hands.
	Do you stereotype people?
	I mean, yeah, but I think I just thought that was a stereotype.
	What do you mean?
	Like, it was just a stereotype, and I was just like, oh my god, that's like a stupid stereotype.
	That I made.
	Yeah.
	But there typically tends to be some truth sometimes to some, not all stereotypes, but.
	Yeah, but it's not even that serious.
	I was just like, oh my God, you know?
	Like, I wasn't like, oh, my God.
	Kind of sounded like you were a little triggered by it.
	Well, guess what?
	I wasn't.
	Huh.
	Was it like a common stereotype for softball players to be back?
	Like, what?
	Oh, actually, yeah.
	I don't know why, but like, most of my teammates, like, they have been like, bye.
	Know why.
	Like, I don't know why.
	Why don't we ask the source here?
	Yeah.
	Was there a higher proportion?
	Was there a greater in comparison to the broad general population of the women that you played softball with?
	Was there a higher proportion of women who were either bisexual or lesbian?
	Honestly, because I played soccer and softball, so I can really compare.
	Sure, soccer.
	I feel like soccer, like they were like more, the population was straight, and then softball was more.
	Honestly, I'd say lesbian as opposed to bi.
	Or I mean, both.
	Sure, yeah.
	I mean, just like an overall statistic.
	I don't know why.
	I respect it.
	I actually kind of feel like that.
	A lot of my homegirls played softball in high school.
	Okay, so there's no guy in the picture then.
	Not right now, no.
	So have you been celibate for nine months?
	I'm trying to get an understanding of your current status here.
	I have been celibate for probably, I want to say five of those nine months.
	So I was celibate for a while just because I wanted to get my money.
	So you've been celibate for the past five months?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I wanted to focus on myself, get my money up, and then focus on it.
	Get your money up.
	Yes.
	Get the money.
	Do people not say that?
	No, because Anna Barbara.
	Okay, you'll do.
	Get the money up.
	I don't know.
	I listened to Perl.
	Wait, where are you from again?
	Sorry, no sidebars.
	I grew up in LA.
	Oh, right.
	So I guess I don't know.
	Valley Girl.
	Can you?
	It just sounds like you're from the bottom of the bottom.
	The Bronze Suns donated $69.
	I'm speaking for the boys.
	Kick the second chick to the right out of the panel now.
	She is an abomination to the world.
	What does that mean?
	This is why boys are.
	Please get the rocks and bring on the fucking comet.
	Get the rocks.
	An abomination to the world.
	Let's see how the show goes.
	That was crazy.
	Let's see how the show goes.
	What about you?
	Oh, okay.
	What was the question?
	I'm single.
	And.
	How long have you been single?
	For like a year.
	In your longest relationship?
	It was five years.
	From what age to what age?
	From 17 to 22.
	Wow.
	What happened to that?
	Well, actually, it was my baby daddy.
	Oh, you have a kid?
	I have a son.
	Okay.
	Just one kid?
	Just one kid.
	Yeah, he's six.
	Can you scoot into the table a little bit?
	Just scoot the chair in.
	Are you able to?
	Is he in the kids' life?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, my baby daddy's a really good dad.
	She's so good.
	Were you guys married?
	We did get married at one point.
	Oh, okay.
	Who initiated the divorce?
	Kind of both of us.
	I mean, he filed for it, but I mean, we both didn't want to be together, so it was kind of mutual.
	Did you get married before or after you had the kid?
	After.
	After.
	How long were you married?
	About.
	Well, we were, we separated when I was 22, but we didn't divorce till I was 24.
	So, I mean, I don't know what you want to consider that.
	Well, so you said you've been single for one year.
	When you say you've been single for one year, was that you counting the divorce?
	No.
	I mean, I'm dating somebody else.
	Yeah, I dated somebody else.
	Okay, I see.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	And then did you guys have split custody?
	Yes.
	Like 50-50?
	50.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	We didn't really fight each other on it.
	Do you guys both live in LA?
	No, he lives in Wisconsin, actually.
	We did both live in LA together.
	Wait, how do you guys have 50 the kids with you or with him?
	Well, it's kind of weird, like the court agreement.
	We have like a weird, unusual court agreement, but it's like I'm supposed to have my son for like three years.
	He spoke down for three years.
	I take him for four years and he takes him for four years.
	It's kind of like it's weird.
	It's very weird because the kid go back to the other parents on the holidays.
	I've heard that.
	Yeah, well, honestly, right now, my son is with my baby father, and I go up there like once a month.
	And I always go for holidays and birthdays, of course.
	For the three years, like your son lives with your baby father for like three years straight, you visit him like on holidays and stuff.
	Yeah, I mean, we donated to the business.
	Yeah, I mean, it's kind of like someone with the money.
	I'm supposed to take him for the summer.
	This shirt girl being on her phone on and off, and it's only been an hour.
	If she doesn't, go can't wait for these Caucasian to destroy you.
	Grab her phone, please.
	Yeah, we got to collect the phones.
	God damn it.
	That's true.
	You got me.
	I bought snitching.
	You got me.
	Poor man.
	No, the snitching is crazy.
	I was fucked snitching.
	That was fucked up.
	Yeah, I was fucked up.
	Say it again.
	The camera wasn't on you.
	That was messed up.
	No, you can.
	And it's probably past his bedtime.
	He's a little grumpy.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so.
	No magnesium for him.
	And you're a musician, correct?
	Yes.
	Listen to the music.
	I want to do.
	What kind of music do you make?
	I make like pop music.
	I actually started.
	Are you a rapper?
	I like to rap, yes.
	Can we hear a rap?
	Oh, man.
	Y'all shine.
	Put me on the spot.
	Hey.
	I don't really want to.
	That's fair.
	I don't want to embarrass myself.
	I mean, you have to like, you have to pay.
	It's not, it's like premium.
	Yeah, it's not free.
	Like, I give.
	I actually do like to freestyle, but she does like.
	I feel like what artist, you know, unless they're going on like a, you know, like a radio type show or whatever, and they're, they're coming on there to freestyle.
	What artist is just like, oh, let me just freestyle unless it's like, I mean, I get exposure, so maybe I should just.
	Maybe you shouldn't.
	Yes, but also you don't work, Papa.
	Like a perk.
	No, I'm playing.
	I'm playing, I'm playing, I'm playing.
	I would have loved to hear more.
	Okay.
	So, where were we?
	Are you?
	Have you ever had a roster?
	Um, kind of.
	Like, I guess when I was single, like, I kind of was like, may the best man win.
	I mean, right now, yeah, literally.
	That's what it is.
	But I kind of have like high standards, so like my roster is very much full of like who can do the most for me, like type of thing.
	What you done?
	Like, I'm just like, I feel like I'm getting older, so I just feel like after a certain age, you gotta like mature up and only date people who can like actually help you in life.
	Like, I don't know.
	Rather than just dating people because, oh, he's nice to me.
	Like, in six months, he might not be nice to you.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So, I just feel like wasting your time.
	There's no point in wasting your time.
	Like, you might as well find somebody who really wants to invest into you and like help you.
	When you say invest in you, what do you mean?
	Like, pay my bills, you know what I'm saying?
	What are your bills?
	I have a lot of bills.
	Rent, my car, insurance, phone.
	What are your monthly expenses?
	My rent.
	Honestly, well, I have a roommate, but my rent without my roommates is like $5,000.
	But I pay $2,500.
	Damn.
	Are you guys roommates?
	No.
	No, okay.
	So you said your car?
	Yeah, which is your cell phone bill?
	What was the other stuff you wanted a guy to pay for?
	All of that.
	Well, just can you?
	My hair, my nails, my lifestyle.
	Just so we have a better understanding, tell us, like, itemize this shit.
	Okay, my rent's $2,500.
	My car payment's $5.30.
	My insurance is like $300.
	Let me think what else I got.
	My phone bill is like $200.
	My Wi-Fi is probably like $50.
	My electric bill is probably like $100.
	So yeah, that.
	And then I like to travel.
	I mean, I pay for everything by myself.
	So if you can't do that, I don't need to waste my time with you.
	That's just how you do it.
	She got it on her own.
	So have you ever been in that sort of situation where a guy did pay for all that stuff?
	Yes.
	Definitely.
	Can I ask?
	If you're wanting a guy to pay all your bills, what do you feel like you are bringing into the relationship if he's doing all of that?
	My pretty self.
	That's what I bring.
	I know that's.
	And I'm pretty smart.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I'm a hustler, so I get money.
	I feel like most men that I've dealt with, I've brought a lot of value into their life.
	Walty, who donated $69.
	Number rate is the most attractive.
	Number three coming in second.
	Number two definitely has HPV.
	Stay far away, fellas.
	Drizzle, drizzle.
	Okay, we're going to come.
	We're going to come right back to what you're talking about.
	So his question is.
	Circumcised or uncircumcised, do you have a preference?
	Starting with you, go ahead.
	Circumcised.
	I don't really care.
	For health purposes, circumcised, just so they don't run into health issues or any infection or anything.
	This is for like somebody who'd be interested in eating.
	Circumcised.
	Good eat their way.
	Circumcised for sure.
	Circumcise.
	My husband.
	Period.
	Let's get answer.
	Your husband?
	Yeah, whatever he got going on.
	No, no, nobody's business out there.
	May I ask how long you've been married?
	It's been a little over a year now.
	Congrats.
	Wait, so would it be a deal breaker if he was not cut?
	Are you asking me?
	No.
	The whole panel.
	Because all of you said cut.
	Is it a deal breaker if he's uncut?
	Yes.
	I don't know.
	Deal breaker.
	I've ever been with a guy who has.
	No.
	For health purposes, I would say yeah.
	Health purposes.
	Scientifically, there's more bacteria and buildup under there.
	Well, there can be.
	There can be.
	I mean, unless if you clean yourself right, but you know what?
	A lot of these guys don't.
	A lot of them do not.
	A lot of them don't.
	Have you ever encountered an uncut guy?
	Yes.
	And it was unclean.
	It was unclean?
	I would say yes.
	I mean, it wasn't consensual.
	Wait, what?
	It wasn't consensual.
	They don't have anything.
	I'm not getting anything.
	That's just a statement.
	That's a statement.
	Wait, I just curiously saying, what topic?
	Was it like, were you at the party when this happened?
	Something like that.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I don't think I've ever been with someone who wasn't.
	Beaten Cheeks donated $69.
	The delusion this singlehood mother states.
	Cash at me $4,000.
	Pay for our first dinner.
	Pay my bills.
	And I will make sure your money is my money.
	And will destroy your robonics talk.
	Drizzle drizzle.
	All right.
	Thank you, Beaten Cheeks.
	And we also have LPEs about to come in here.
	Wait, so deal breaker if he's uncut.
	I haven't.
	Loose pussy energy donated $69.
	Nick.
	You're not hard at all.
	You're softer than Shamin.
	Sounds like a cool one.
	Stop the damn cap.
	Malibu.
	You let him get it raw.
	Didn't have second thoughts.
	Now you are single mom.
	That's a song, by the way.
	Yeah.
	Okay, quick answer.
	Deal breaker if he's uncut.
	Oh, I don't know.
	I've never been with somebody, so like that wasn't, so I don't know if it's a deal breaker.
	So every guy you've been with has been cut?
	Yeah.
	No.
	Into the mic, please.
	No?
	I don't know the question.
	Were you just not here for the question?
	I can repeat it.
	Yeah, I'm like, I don't know.
	She's like, what?
	There's a 50% chance that this is the right answer.
	Would it be a deal-breaker for you if the guy was uncut?
	Circumcision.
	No.
	Well, okay.
	No.
	So, and actually, I'm going to have to boost the TTS here.
	We've already gone over the first 30 minutes.
	I'm going to get in Killer of Cereals questions.
	We'll come back to your thing.
	We'll come back to relationship status.
	Killer of Cereal asked, Can you explain?
	God damn, bro.
	Okay, I'll do it, man.
	Can you explain what the fabric of American culture is in modern society and how you think it affects modern dating society?
	Start with you, go around the table.
	I'll be right back.
	I'm not going to lie.
	My mind goes completely blank when you ask that question.
	Wait, what was the question?
	That sounds like it was written by Chat GBT, not to lie.
	I have an answer to that.
	So they were asking, how has modern society, how has it changed dating?
	And I have a couple things that I've never changed.
	We're getting a lot of.
	So, I mean, I obviously, you know, am in the adult entertainment world and I've done OnlyFans and all that, but I don't have one anymore because I don't believe in the commercial.
	Brian needs Xanux donated six.
	Brian needs to be aware of that.
	You've got to get on some manga management pro LMFAO.
	You get stressed out.
	Casey magnesium.
	Take some magnesium?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So, anyways, so yeah, the magnesium.
	That, dude, that got me chilling.
	Magnesium?
	Living.
	Yeah, you just relax, you know?
	But so they asked, what was the, how has modern dating changed the landscape?
	In the 90s, we didn't deal with all this crazy stuff happening on the street.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, we didn't get these crazy reports in the 90s.
	Like, maybe they happened, but probably it was like one in 200.
	Now it's one in like 10.
	Yeah.
	We're getting a lot of rags to riches stories because the whole OnlyFans things, what it does is I've done OnlyFans before.
	I don't do it any longer just because it's very difficult for me to keep up with the consumption of the pornographic material.
	I believe that, you know, with certain things, so we're getting a lot of people who never had money get money.
	And now we're watching their reactions in society, which is we are watching, you know, they go on a plane and they're like, oh my gosh, you're being a jerk to everybody or you're doing something.
	They go, well, I have a million followers, whatever, and I make money or whatever.
	And I've seen this.
	And, you know, we're going to get that because this is their first encounter with a large amount of money and it can really change the way that certain people react.
	I'm really, really tired of watching women.
	Okay, if you're going to do bedroom stuff and bedroom nude lingerie, whatever, do it in the bedroom.
	Don't do it when I've seen people walk out, not in bikinis, in full-on lingerie, in public, in front of families, and it really pisses me off.
	I really don't like that.
	I've never done that as a model.
	I've only gone out in a bikini at a beach.
	Like, that's it.
	And I really think that that behavior actually needs to stop.
	I think that it distorts things for people and it puts parents in a really precarious situation of having to explain what that just was.
	Why did they watch a person with like a gag ball in their mouth?
	And, you know, one of my, yeah, that's one of my concerns.
	So I think that it affects dating because these kids watch this behavior and they see these people walking around in the broad daylight with like, you know, lingerie on and they're just like, mommy, what is that?
	And this mom's like, fuck, I got to explain that.
	Like, not like to this, like, how am I going to pay this?
	Like a six-year-old, like, good God, you know, and it's have some, you know, I don't believe in shaming people because shame is stored in the body and it can lead to diseases.
	But I do believe that there needs to be a healthy amount of shame to keep the common decency of society going.
	Do you feel like a lot of people because like influencers and tons of people are on OnlyFans and posting stuff?
	They don't really know.
	They've never been trained in media.
	So we look at K-pop stars.
	So I've been trained in media.
	So I work for a PR company and I've been trained in media.
	My family's been in entertainment for over 100 years.
	And the Roses family has been there.
	However, there's certain people in the Roses family that I can't disclose because they're in children's entertainment.
	And I don't want to risk, you know, I mean, even though I'm in adult entertainment and it's completely legal, I don't want to risk their jobs.
	So I don't want to say that.
	But a lot of these entertainers really need to look into media training because these K-pop stars, they're groomed to be a star and not like groomed in a bad way.
	They're molded.
	They're manicured to be a star.
	You need media.
	Absolutely.
	And that's negative.
	And that's negative.
	But manicured is the word I should have used.
	No, yeah.
	They are manicured to be stars.
	And you need to be manicured to be a star because you represent.
	If you represent something and people like you, you probably should do media training.
	Especially in the adult film industry.
	Exactly.
	We agree.
	I mean, I'm all for supporting that and doing what you want to do.
	Like, whatever career path you want to take.
	But.
	Oh, here.
	There you go.
	There you go.
	Look at Abigail if you're speaking.
	Looking at Abigail.
	What was I going to do?
	They need to be manicured to be celebrities if they really want to do that and they really need to dedicate their life.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	Were you guys actually answering the question or did you?
	Yes, no, I answered it.
	Did you guys answer?
	No.
	Yeah.
	I don't even remember the question at this point.
	Well, it affects dating because that's what people see on television and that's how they read it.
	There's a lot of basic agendas that definitely be paying attention.
	I mean, you left.
	I literally asked the question right before I left, and it came in multiple times.
	Okay.
	It was a very, very big question.
	We were having a good conversation over here.
	I'll tell you that.
	Okay, so.
	I have a big piece.
	After your opinion.
	Wait, okay.
	Can you explain what the fabric of American culture?
	Kill up cereal.
	I fucking love you.
	This is.
	I'm already tilted.
	I'm already tilted today.
	This is a dog shit question, but I'll ask it.
	Okay.
	Explain what the fabric of American culture is in modern society and relate it to modern dating.
	I want to say, I guess the fabric of the pleasure kindly speak into the microphone.
	I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	She was thinking.
	No.
	If she speaks, she needs to be in the fucking microphone.
	You don't need to challenge me every time I'm trying to get the show on the fucking rails.
	Do you understand?
	But it's just kind of fun.
	Yeah, how about you don't do it and just fucking drop the fucking attitude?
	Go ahead.
	I just don't want to.
	it's about to get heated um i was gonna say the oops sorry I got the clause.
	Anyway, I was going to say that I think the, honestly, I think the biggest issue right now is arguably social media, especially with the way it portrays young minds and dating, like pornography and stuff like that.
	And that's so common.
	Like Twitter just legalized porn and there's nothing wrong with it.
	But if it gets found at a young age, like per se, like I first found it by accident when I was like 12 and I was like, what the fuck is this?
	Like so.
	I think that that honestly, like, I don't want to say it like poisons your brain, but it kind of does if you're unaware of the repercussions of that.
	Especially if it's found at a young age.
	So I guess the internet pornography and the way that that kind of portrays that affects modern dating.
	Completely agree.
	Yeah, what she said.
	I agree the same.
	I agree the same.
	I think that casual sex and just being so casual situationships, I think it just allows people to be unhappy and be used.
	And people, in my opinion, will pretend to be like a certain type of girl to keep a guy sometimes because they think that's what he will like and they don't want to lose him and they think maybe eventually he will like them and social media is pretty much all fake.
	So I think people yeah, just too casual about sex and love and I think it's kind of ruined our generation.
	It was very true.
	Definitely.
	I think social media is definitely ruining it.
	I feel like it's dividing men and women a lot.
	I mean women are being told that they don't need a man.
	They're being told to go get the bag to be independent women.
	That divides them.
	Men are, I mean, I've seen a video and the comment section was.
	Dude, holy shit, calm that down, Brian.
	Take some deep breaths.
	You're more agitated than usual today, and it's annoying.
	They aren't being that dumb.
	Really, bro?
	We're not.
	Thank you.
	He needs a Xanax.
	Bro, I'm just going to be honest.
	Like, this is one of the most fucking feral days we've had, dude.
	What is feral?
	Like, what do you even mean by feral?
	Like, you're kind of feral.
	How am I feral?
	These girls are fucking nearly two hours.
	These two girls are two hours later.
	My friend died.
	Yeah, if you could just, like, have any type of sympathy, that would be amazing.
	But what do you mean by feral?
	Why don't you just Google what feral means?
	No, but I'd like you to elaborate it in this context.
	Joogle it.
	No, I think in this context, I think in this context it's important for you to elaborate on.
	We had two no-shows.
	We had two flakes.
	That's a good idea.
	That makes me feral.
	Yeah, you've been feral.
	You have an attitude.
	So feral means attitude?
	I don't know.
	I feel like if you look that up, that's not what it's going to say.
	Why don't you Google it?
	Why don't you Google it?
	Sassy.
	It's a sassy man apocalypse, right?
	That's what I said earlier.
	I know that most of you have moved through your lives in a very sort of pampered way because of the female privilege that you all have, but I tend to lean on this, you know, shut the fuck up.
	You don't need to be fucking being disrespectful.
	I didn't say a single word.
	Why don't you repeat the gesture you were just making?
	Is that not disrespectful?
	I just think it's funny.
	You think it's funny?
	I think you've said a lot of disrespectful things.
	Give me an example.
	I don't know, just like completely interrogating her friend's death, also just ignoring it at the same time.
	How did I ignore it?
	She would speak on it.
	You'd be like, yeah, whatever.
	Moving on to the next person.
	But then you'd also be like, how did they?
	Literally never said that.
	Like, blah, blah, blah.
	By the way, this is a panel show.
	So yeah, she said her piece.
	I moved it on.
	I'm the host of the show.
	I will move things on whenever I like to.
	You do that.
	I guess feral, in my opinion.
	I think that feral podcast.
	This is going to get you more views, though.
	Like, if I'm being completely honest, like, not on any disrespectful shit.
	Like, honestly, if you have more beef or that, if you want to get a reaction out of someone, which as a podcast host, that's what you're trying to do.
	Honestly, I'm helping you 100%.
	Yeah, no, but it's cool if you can have an actual...
	I prefer to actually have back and forth over actual conversation topics instead of somebody...
	You think just asking girls, like, oh, what's your situation?
	What's your relationship?
	What's your relationship is back and forth.
	What we were doing was back and forth.
	What we were doing was back and forth.
	You just asking, what's your body count?
	What's your blah, blah, blah.
	How many subscribers does your podcast have?
	Girl, I don't have a fucking podcast.
	How many?
	Like, do you think numbers matter?
	If you're trying to lecture me over how I can make a successful podcast, I'm just saying you want back and forth.
	You're not doing back and forth.
	It's cool that your friend died.
	If my friend died, I would not be on there.
	I would be drinking and listening to Creed.
	She was hating the casual action.
	Can I answer that?
	I told her to come.
	I had a commitment.
	She told me to come and I was late, which I DM'd the podcast and asked if I should still come because I knew it was disrespectful to be late, but because I had a commitment.
	What time was the funeral?
	It was like 10 a.m.
	And I live two hours away from here.
	You're in LA, right?
	Yeah.
	I'm like Calabasas.
	Hollywood, Calabasas.
	I just moved back to Hollywood.
	So I guess where I'm a little confused, you would have had to leave around 2 p.m.
	You didn't message our page until 3:18.
	You wrote, apologies.
	Me and Josie are running very late.
	I was at my friend's funeral this morning.
	Yes, at 10 a.m.
	I've been to funerals.
	Not the day after, though.
	Me neither.
	That's why I didn't know what was going on right there.
	But I understand that you had this last-minute thing come up.
	But, you know, given that you had a predetermined plan to be here, one, you could have given us a bit more notice.
	You would have known it too.
	I didn't have noticed that my friend died.
	No, but I didn't have noticed.
	I went to the funeral to be respectful.
	At 10 a.m.
	Is there something wrong with that?
	Holy fuck.
	But she's a human being.
	No, genuinely.
	She's a human being.
	No, hear me out.
	Genuinely.
	Like, please.
	If I had agreed to be somewhere and something came up, I would have just done the courteous thing and let them know, hey, sorry, I'm going to be running late.
	As soon as I found out.
	No, yeah, it was a very rough morning.
	It was a very rough night for me.
	Okay.
	I'm not, it was just sudden.
	I have empathy for that.
	I'm sorry to hear you.
	No, I'm not.
	No, you do not.
	I literally just said it.
	Shut the fuck up.
	So.
	Okay, do not speak to me like that.
	You're the one with the fucking attitude.
	I'm just saying you don't have fucking empathy.
	This is, speaking of empathy, this is the, that's.
	She has something to say.
	May.
	Go ahead.
	Thank you.
	If you had a friend's funeral that happened very suddenly, which I don't.
	I would, if it was.
	Would you show up to the funeral?
	He's saying he would have told me he would have told me.
	If I had a doctor's appointment, if I had a doctor's appointment at 5 p.m. and something came up and I had to cancel it, I would have called as soon as possible and just took it, done the courteous thing.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Done the courteous thing and just said, taking 30 seconds, hey, I'm very sorry something came up.
	I'm not going to be able to make it.
	That's it.
	Oh, yeah, that would have been the courteous thing to do.
	But you know, you were crying all night.
	You were running around doing stuff, going to the funeral.
	You weren't even sure if you really wanted to come because of that.
	You're calling me like, I don't know what to do.
	I'm like, let's just go if you feel up to it.
	And she was like, halfway, yeah, I do, but halfway, I don't.
	And she was kind of like, oh, I want to, I kind of don't.
	And I told her, I was like, well, I already got ready.
	Like, let's go.
	Well, like, if you want to go, let's go.
	So then we ended up going.
	We were late.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, this girl was freaking Hurricane Sandy or whatever.
	I mean, it was.
	I'm not saying that it wasn't.
	I'm not saying that it was courteous.
	I definitely could have done more.
	And I'm a very punctual and on-time person.
	I'm a student.
	I work two jobs.
	I have a freaking studio internship.
	Like, I'm a very punctual person.
	I have a very busy schedule that I have to manage because I'm very focused on my education and making money.
	So I do call ahead.
	When I'm late to work, I call ahead.
	But today, this specific thing, this was so sudden.
	This hurt me so bad that this was like the last of my worries.
	And I know that that's not respectful.
	That's not courteous, but courtesy wasn't on my mind.
	And I can admit that's not the right thing necessarily.
	And I apologize for that.
	And I'm sorry that we were late.
	No, you don't want to.
	I'm sorry.
	Your friend passes away yesterday.
	What's your name again, Brian?
	Your friend passes away yesterday, Brian.
	Is the first thing you're going to do when you find out your friend passes away and be like, oh my God, whatever podcast?
	I'm so sorry I can't make it in.
	Like, no.
	No, it's not the first thing I'm going to do.
	However, I'm going to do it.
	See, and it wasn't the first thing you did.
	If you're going to ask me, no, you keep interrupting.
	You've been rude this entire fucking time.
	I'm matching your energy.
	If I'm speaking, stop interrupting.
	You asked me a question.
	You asked me a question.
	I was responding to your question.
	Do you understand?
	So, if I'm going to be responding to your question, you need to allow me to respond instead of just fucking bulldozing and refusing to let me fully answer the question.
	So, yes, if something catastrophic happens.
	Lululu donating $69.
	Perfect example of females only being able to see when they've been disrespected, but don't take accountability when they disrespect others.
	Typical pampered my feelings more important than yours.
	I mean, do you know what I mean?
	So, hold on, I'll answer her question.
	So, yes, if I became aware of, I suppose, would you consider this a dear friend or just an acquaintance?
	It's a dear friend.
	Dear friend.
	Okay.
	You've known him for a year?
	Okay.
	So, if it was a guy who I knew for a year and he was a dear friend and I found out, I would obviously be upset.
	I would be distraught and I would prioritize, okay, can I make it to the funeral?
	If I had any plans for that day that required me to clear my schedule, I would have done the courteous thing because two things can coexist at the same time.
	You can be frantic and moving around when it comes to, okay, funeral plans.
	And you can also realize, well, I told these people I have a commitment.
	I don't know if this is just me.
	I don't know if this is just, I'm crazy for trying to be respectful of other people's time, even if I'm going through some crazy shit.
	I would just do the courteous thing and just reach out and say, hey, something came up.
	I'm going to be really late.
	I'm going to try to give them as much advanced notice as possible.
	That's it.
	Maybe some people don't operate that way.
	That's fine.
	Yeah, I mean, she's a little younger than you, and I also feel like, you know, she's 19.
	I don't know how old, you're like 30, 40, maybe.
	But I'm.
	God, you're a fucking bitch.
	You know that?
	What's your fucking problem?
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	So I just feel like.
	Probably.
	Mexicana esta peres no vele.
	I can't read that.
	Para la chica mexicana, estas peras no valenada.
	Sin embargo, me encantan los tacos.
	Okay, fuck you.
	Y las mujeras méxicanas.
	Casimiente Brian Patea lasada de la susada azul del pana auro ahora.
	He was speaking like gibberish, literally.
	He's saying, I love tacos and Mexican chicks.
	I do me too.
	The way you're conducting yourself right now, the way you're conducting yourself with me, have you ever conducted yourself this way with the guy you claim was mentally abusive towards you?
	Did you ever conduct yourself that way towards him?
	I don't think we're going to.
	Because I think it's perhaps you who's the abusive one.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I don't really think you know me at all.
	It's interesting.
	You're making quite a lot of judgments and knee-jerk assessments about me.
	I'm actually not.
	I just think you're kind of like multiple times.
	I haven't made a whole.
	Okay, I'm just responding.
	I'm a dick.
	You're a bitch.
	I just agree.
	You've called me a bitch multiple times.
	Have I given a single fuck?
	No.
	And you've called me an asshole multiple times.
	And you've given many fucks, man.
	You walked off the fucking stage.
	I had to fix the camera angles.
	Holy fuck, bro.
	Do you have a question?
	What's your relationship like with your parents?
	With my parents.
	Yeah, I knew that one was coming.
	It's great.
	I love both my parents.
	They still together?
	No.
	Okay.
	What's your relationship like with your father?
	I don't feel like I need to tell you any of this.
	I'm just curious.
	I'm just not going to tell you.
	You're just not going to answer the question?
	Correct.
	Plead the fifth.
	I know it's troubling.
	I'm pretty sure you just came on intentionally just to troll.
	I don't know.
	I was like in the road and you guys just approached me.
	So I didn't really come on here.
	You guys kind of asked me to come on.
	Yeah, that's right.
	But you've kind of come on with like a very nasty attitude.
	Not really.
	I just think you kind of ask ridiculous questions.
	You ask like dumb questions.
	And I know they all agree.
	You agree?
	No.
	You agree?
	I think he's been doing this for a long time.
	He knows how to get views.
	Yeah, I think he's smart, and I think he's just kind of picking at certain things.
	And I'm not picking it.
	I'm literally asking you guys about your dating history.
	It's a dating show.
	That you're picking at.
	The questions I'm asking are totally contextual.
	Yeah, we're not saying anything about that.
	I'm not saying anything about that, but I'm more like just picking at the poking the bear, man.
	Well, I mean, it depends.
	Because she's poking the bear back.
	It's definitely both ways.
	Yeah, you're poking the bear.
	I'm poking the bear back.
	Like, what's the problem with that?
	I'm not poking the bear.
	I'm asking legitimate questions.
	Yeah.
	I think the fact that you're a guest.
	But you were asking her relationship with her father.
	And like, that's that kind of asks.
	That kind of could be offensive.
	Oh, my God.
	You're trying to go into my relationship.
	You're asking who was the abuser, what kind of abuse.
	Like, what kind of fucking human asks somebody that?
	I wouldn't even ask my closest friend that.
	You're the one who brought up abuse.
	You're the one who asked me why we weren't together anymore.
	I said it was a mentally abusive relationship.
	You're like, oh, what kind of abuse?
	Did he hit you?
	Blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Like, who the fuck asks that?
	That's not how I framed it.
	You said, did he hit you?
	Yeah, I met.
	Same fucking question.
	That's literally not what I said.
	I asked if it was physically abusive.
	That's the same thing.
	Physically abusive?
	Did he hit you?
	That's the same thing.
	No, it's not.
	The words are literally different.
	Oh, my God.
	You don't think it's fair game to ask a question?
	I just feel like the questions you ask, you ask them for a very specific reason.
	And I think you're strategic about what you're doing.
	Of course.
	And I respect it.
	I know what you're doing.
	And I think you're doing it.
	What am I doing?
	I think you're good at it.
	What am I doing?
	You're just trying to get some content.
	And I respect that.
	But I'm just not going to.
	I'm literally asking you guys questions.
	Okay.
	So continue asking your questions.
	Well, I mean, the questions technically weren't covered in what we were DM'd with the question rack.
	So I think that that caught some of us apart.
	And there's nothing wrong with that at all.
	Like, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
	I don't even know what you're referencing now.
	Like, I'm just going to move it on.
	Like, what's the relationship with my father?
	What's the deal with my friend's death?
	that's sus to have a funeral i know it sounds sus but that's like oh well your friend passed at two You should have been here at four.
	Like, that's fucking weird.
	I know that might not be exactly what it was, but you were questioning why she wasn't here when her friend passed yesterday.
	Can I say something?
	Like, hello?
	Go ahead.
	Let's just say he was your boss and you had to be at work and someone died and you decided to not show up.
	If you just say last minute, oh, well, sorry, I had a funeral, they would expect you.
	It's kind of the same thing.
	It's if you're expected to be somewhere, I mean, if someone died and I had to go to work, the first thing I would do is call out of work.
	Because I don't want to, one, lose the respect of, you know, my employer, my coworkers.
	I don't want to leave that shift to fall on someone else.
	No, not at all, but this isn't a shift.
	But it's not like your mind just goes blank when those things happen.
	That's exactly what happens when you have diagnosed PTSD.
	I mean, I think that's exactly what I've done.
	I've been in situations where I was super frantic and things were going to be.
	Like, I was not okay.
	And I'm okay most of the time.
	And what you're saying does not happen.
	I mean, it's a commitment to make.
	I am in the wrong.
	I can admit that.
	And her friend did die.
	And I mean, to like elaborate a little bit on it, I guess.
	You know, her friend is an artist who gave her a lot of placements and things like that.
	So that's why she's really distraught about him passing because it's not like this person was just, I mean, it was more than really a friend.
	It was kind of a business relationship you guys had as well.
	From what I understand, at least.
	Well, yeah, I mean, it was.
	But you're not really speaking.
	And all we're saying is, if he, you know, everyone feels bad, of course, if it did happen, it's just like he's just saying, hey, it would have felt better if you would have been like, look, I'm really sorry.
	I should have texted you or something.
	He should have a moment.
	She would apologize to him.
	And I'm saying, like, she's 19.
	Like, I don't know if you can really, not that.
	She's probably one of the most mature 19 year olds.
	I know, but I do.
	And it's interesting.
	I'm not answering for her, too.
	Yeah, well, because I think you guys are attacking her.
	So, and he's kind of, and like, I just don't like seeing that.
	And I don't feel like she knows how to respond to all the questions properly sometimes.
	And I'm not saying like, you're not.
	No, I don't.
	Intelligent.
	No, I know.
	But I know you haven't slept last night.
	Like, I didn't see it.
	Yeah, and I also know you haven't slept at all.
	I know what's going on with you.
	So that's why I feel entitled to speak on it a little bit.
	You also have to understand on this topic is that we've probably had on over a thousand guests.
	Every single week we do show Sunday, Tuesday.
	Mind you, I believe I don't recall the precise details.
	We've had you scheduled previously.
	And my car blew out.
	My transmission blew out.
	If I recall correctly, you let us know like two hours before the show.
	Because my car transmission blew out when I was on the road.
	So you understand, and we've had a couple girls here who've been on the show before.
	They've seen it firsthand.
	Some people have legitimate, legitimate excuses.
	A lot of the girls who come on the show, they lie.
	Definitely.
	They make up some bullshit.
	For example, we've had girls who've said, my car, I had a car issue.
	It broke down.
	And they'll send us a photo even.
	And it's local here.
	They'll send us, we had this couple weeks ago.
	It was a cloudy, in the photo, it was a cloudy day.
	Now, I live in the same area.
	It was clear skies and sunny the whole day.
	Here's my car broken down from today.
	So people will lie.
	We've had girls who say, oh, I'm sick.
	Oh, something happened.
	I can't make it.
	And then we look at their Instagram later.
	They're at the club.
	They're at the bar.
	They're on the boat.
	They're on the yacht.
	A lot of people lie, okay?
	No, they do.
	I'm not saying you're lying.
	I actually believe you.
	I don't blame you.
	I actually believe you.
	But a lot of people are liars.
	They'll come up with, my dog ate my homework type shit.
	So I am skeptical in general when people choose to flake on plans.
	Now, this can be dating related.
	It can be professionally related.
	People tend to lie.
	People lie on the spot.
	Like this, because you're put on the spot and on the spot right now.
	I'm driving my dad's Chevy Equinox.
	I drive a 2016 Chevrolet.
	I'm not saying, no, I know you're not.
	I'm getting you the reason for why I'm skeptical when people come up with, oh, here's why I'm late.
	Here's why I can't make it.
	He's saying people do it all the time.
	No, I'd imagine that.
	That's why I was.
	I just closed no show today.
	No, I understand.
	That's why I was so like, I need to get here today because I failed that commitment last time because some like crazy, like, it was like the stupidest shit.
	Like, I started the car and it wouldn't go forward because the transmission blew and it's literally still in the shop.
	Like, it's just like, I don't know.
	I might, I need to get like a rabbit's foot or something.
	But like, I don't know.
	So it's all good.
	We're going to keep things moving.
	I appreciate that you were able to make it here today.
	I apologize for being late.
	It's okay.
	I thank you for your apology.
	Okay, so I appreciate it.
	We're going to get back.
	We're going to get back.
	You were saying something about what you want from a man.
	Oh, yeah.
	Back to that.
	Back to this conversation on the subject.
	So what?
	Like, what do I want from a man?
	That's what you're asking me?
	Yeah, you were saying how you want a guy to pay for all your bills and stuff.
	Pretty much.
	Like that, I feel like men don't really like, and just from my own relationship experiences and just being a person who was really loyal and held things down, made most of the money, went to college, moved from Wisconsin to Phoenix to California and kind of held the team up and tried to put motivation into a man and all that.
	I just feel like men only really I won't say they this will even make them loyal or whatever, but I feel like they have to invest into you for them to like really be I don't know like stable with you.
	I feel like if they don't invest in you, then it you know, you end up, that's why women just end up in these situations where it's like, oh, I have a kid and he cheated on me and all this da-da-da happened and then and now I'm left with nothing and I have that now I gotta raise this kid by myself and all this stuff.
	Well, I feel like you didn't have a standard going into the relationship like like, you know, this is my standard.
	I'm not dating you.
	I'm not having sex with you unless this is met.
	Because once they do that, I feel like once those requirements are met and standards are met, it's gonna be a lot harder for them to leave you.
	A lot harder for them to like move on.
	So that's my take on it.
	I have a question for you.
	Yeah.
	You said if he's paying for all your stuff, you're bringing to the table your pretty self.
	If a man was just attractive, very attractive, and that was it, and you're with him, would you stay with him?
	No.
	I don't date men based on their attraction.
	I don't date them based on their looks.
	So don't you think it's a bit hypocritical that you expect him to be?
	Well, this effort is not.
	I feel like men definitely date based on looks.
	I feel like women don't, you know?
	So I don't feel like, you know, sure, there's a double standard on stuff, but you know, society is the way it is.
	And I feel like women need to have more standard for themselves.
	And that's my opinion on that.
	Okay, so if all you're bringing to the table is looks and good looks are pretty common and so he can go and find another girl with good looks, do you expect him to stay with you?
	Well, if he's investing in me, he's not going to want to lose his investment on me.
	So he will stay with me, I think.
	And if he doesn't, then on to the next.
	Like, I didn't lose anything in this relationship.
	I only gained.
	Rather than me losing, like, okay, we got in a relationship.
	You didn't invest anything.
	Now I'm emotionally involved with you.
	Maybe you cheat on me with my best friend.
	Maybe you, who knows what happens.
	Now I'm emotionally distraught.
	Now my dating life is messed up because I'm still thinking about you.
	I'm trying to get over you.
	I can't.
	All that.
	No, instead, if a man invests in you, I just feel like now it's going to be a lot harder for him to leave you.
	If you have that standard from the jump, like, like to begin with, if you understand what I'm saying.
	Do you think having that standard from the jump might keep you single longer?
	I think it makes it weeds out all the men who don't want to do that.
	And a lot of men have their little, you You know, oh, she's a gold digger.
	Oh, you're this or that, you know.
	But I don't really care because, like, what are you?
	You're probably not any better than me.
	Like, you know, so.
	And do you think you'll respect a man, like, truly respect him if he is accepting you for just your looks and you're expecting all of this from him?
	And so he's catering to your needs and has no standards for himself besides looks?
	I mean, I don't think that that means he doesn't have a standard.
	I think it means he has more respect for women if he feels like I don't want my woman to be struggling.
	I don't want her to be in this like fight or flight mode, you know.
	Like, rather than I'm taking care of her, you know, and I'm providing this safe space for her to be herself and, you know, maybe work on the things that, like, now do I, I mean, I'm personally not ever oh, the type, I'll never stop working.
	That's just me, my type of who I am.
	But I don't think if a woman woman wants to be with a man, I don't think like she should that it like it shouldn't be like, oh, you got to work too.
	That should a guy should not be coming approaching a woman.
	Like, what do you bring to the table?
	Like, if you like me, okay, you like how I look because I think men, like I said, date for looks.
	So you like me, you like how I look, you want, we're maybe we go on a few dates, whatever, whatever, and you're interested in me, okay?
	Well, before I do anything with you, this is my standard.
	If you don't want to meet that, then that's what it is.
	We can be friends, or we just don't even got to be like, if you don't, if you can't be my friend, then we don't got to be anything.
	And that's what it is.
	Like, and I think like he, I definitely have respect for a man because also, if a man is providing for me, why would I leave somebody who's doing all this for me?
	That's not easy to come by either.
	So, you know what I'm saying?
	Like, it kind of goes both ways, I feel like.
	I almost said something.
	I was gonna say, wait, you tell them right up front that you want them to pay for everything?
	Um, yeah, I mean, I make it pretty clear.
	Like, I feel like I make it pretty clear from the.
	I mean, if you know me and you're around me, you're gonna know like that's the type of time I'm on.
	And then, if you don't know me, you're just getting to know me, you're gonna learn pretty quickly that's the type of time I'm on.
	So, how do you say it to them?
	I mean, I just say, like, honestly, they mainly kind of understand the vibe because generally what happens is if it's not spoken, like they've taken me on a few dates and I didn't do anything with them and I leave, and then it's like, okay, so obviously she wants something.
	So, then maybe they'll be like, oh, I want to spoil you, or I want this, and I'll be like, okay, like, yeah, or I want to take you on a vacation or something.
	I'm like, okay, well, I have bills to pay.
	I have stuff.
	I can't just leave.
	You know, I got to work.
	So, if you want me to be all accessible to you, I need some money.
	Like, I need some, I need a bill pay.
	Like, here's my rent.
	I don't know.
	Like, I don't know.
	So, yeah, I mean, I kind of do.
	Like, honestly, by the third date, it's known.
	Do you tell them your rapper on the date?
	Yeah, I tell them everything about me.
	Do you rap for them?
	Yeah, if they want to put a bean on.
	Abigail, we need to do a couple chats.
	I'm going to have you read them.
	Heads up, guys.
	We're not doing $69 anymore.
	We boosted it back up.
	I should have announced it, but we only do it for the first 30 minutes of the show.
	I'll have Abigail read them.
	So we'll let them come in.
	So, Abigail, I'm going to have you read a couple.
	Second girl.
	Into the mic.
	You got to do it into the mic, though.
	Second girl, you are a guest.
	This is Brian's show.
	It is very sus to have a funeral the day after death.
	That is very strange.
	So, Brian is right to question.
	Here's the attitude.
	I believe it.
	No respect.
	Pathetic.
	All right.
	We have another one coming in.
	Go ahead and read that.
	Brian, stop milking green shirts attitude and behavior for views and kick her.
	She brought the show to a grinding halt and it's annoying.
	All right.
	We have Ronnaissance.
	But thank you, Illinois Boy.
	Appreciate it.
	Go ahead.
	Andrew is not here.
	But the, I have really bad vision.
	Broissance?
	Okay.
	But the Broissance is, I have a really bad vision.
	Question to all the women: Is your father or stepfather in your life?
	The blue sweater chick looks like someone to hurt to the sad basement for a diddle.
	What?
	I have no idea what that means.
	Is your father or stepfather in your life going around the table?
	Starting with Abigail, actually.
	Go ahead.
	My father?
	Oh, yeah, he's in my life.
	He's wonderful.
	Happy Father's Day, Bat.
	Happy Father's Day.
	Happy Father's Day.
	I love you.
	Yes, he's very much in my life.
	Yes, my dad is very much in my life.
	Bolt up.
	Yes, I love my dad.
	Shout out, dad.
	Yes.
	My dad's in my life.
	Yes, love your dad.
	Happy Father's Day.
	Yes, my dad re-entered my life as an adult.
	And yes.
	Yes.
	Love you, Gary.
	Yes, my dad is.
	All right, and then we have one more.
	If you can't read it, I'll read it.
	Go for it.
	You can read it.
	Hey, Brian, longtime fan of the podcast and your social projects.
	And I want to hop on the podcast someday if I can, but keep cooking these OF girls and snap them back to reality.
	You're doing the Lord's work.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	By the way, guys, Reed is 99 from here on out.
	TTS is 199 from here on out.
	So 100 for Reed, 200 for TTS.
	But those just kind of slid through there.
	So I just wanted to at least get them read.
	Sorry they didn't come through as a TTS.
	Just forgot to mention that.
	Can you pull your mic to the edge?
	Oh.
	And then Twitch?
	Yeah, we'll do Twitch.
	Guys, drop us a follow on Twitch.
	Follow us on Twitch.
	If you've got a Prime sub, drop us a Prime sub.
	1,600 people watching.
	No ads over there on Twitch.
	Yeah, Walsh, thank you for the Prime Man.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you, guys.
	Thank you for all the follows and Primes.
	Appreciate it, guys.
	Thank you.
	And okay, I want to.
	What did we have to?
	We'll come back to some of your stuff.
	We need to get relationship status, though, so go ahead.
	Single.
	How long have you been single?
	Well, for five months now.
	Longest relationship was a year and a half.
	And if you want to see why we ended, go to the other podcast that I was in.
	Oh.
	Can you just give us a recap for the new viewers?
	Mommy issues with him, and we were just both immature.
	Both immature.
	Okay.
	And you were on like two months ago, a month ago or something?
	Yeah, like a month ago.
	Any dating prospects?
	No.
	From that?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I am single.
	I've been single for four years, and my longest relationship was six years.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	And you're religious, correct?
	Yeah.
	I have a relationship with Jesus.
	Yeah, I know you're going to say that.
	So are you.
	You're like non-denominational Christian?
	Yeah, non-denominational.
	Protestant or just non-denominational?
	You could say Protestant.
	Okay.
	And so are you.
	Do you consider yourself a born-again?
	Yes, I do.
	Now, do you consider yourself a born-again virgin?
	I mean, I don't really think about the term, but no, I don't think of it like that.
	I just went celibate now because I repented from premarital sex and got to pick it up and keep it moving.
	Sure.
	What about you?
	Relationship steps?
	We're still on that?
	Yeah, that's...
	Yeah, okay.
	I'm married.
	I've been married for a little over a year, and my longest relationship is by marriage.
	Still married?
	Yep.
	Love that ring.
	Thank you.
	That's amazing.
	How long were you guys dating?
	We actually didn't date.
	I've known him for a little over three years now.
	We were best friends, and we just started falling for each other, and we wanted to buy a house together.
	And I'm big on not living together before marriage, so we got married.
	And you were on about a year ago, if I recall, is that correct?
	Yeah, I think it was like nine months ago or something like that.
	Okay.
	And marriage going well?
	Yeah, very well.
	Good, good.
	What do you say to people who kind of raise an eyebrow?
	You know, getting married at 20 is, I would say, a bit uncommon nowadays.
	Yeah.
	I don't know if you ever get criticisms or what do you say to those people?
	People definitely do criticize.
	I guess my biggest offense is my parents have been happily married for a very long time and they raised me to get married and they approve this man and they approve of the marriage.
	And I'm way happier married than I was single.
	I don't intend to get married to end up divorced.
	So it's till death do us part.
	And I think, I mean, I don't have to answer to the people who raise an eyebrow to me.
	Of course, people are going to have their opinions, but it doesn't affect the longevity of our marriage.
	Okay.
	I see.
	All right.
	Cool.
	We've got everybody's relationship status.
	We're working on getting Andrew.
	He should be joining us here in just a few minutes.
	So we have Pelagic.
	It's on purpose.
	She's purposely trying to throw you off with her mental manipulation.
	She's good.
	No doubt about that.
	For me.
	Yeah, no.
	You're right, Pelagic.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Appreciate it, dude.
	And like the video, boys.
	Like the video.
	It helps out with the algorithm.
	So thank you guys.
	What was the Nick?
	Is there anything we had to react to?
	We got TikTok.
	And then the face stuff.
	Yeah, there's that and then, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Hold on, okay, I'm trying to think when I want to do this.
	One sec, guys.
	I'm just checking on Andrew here.
	I think, Nick, do you want to boot up Discord and just see if he's just give him a call, see if he's good to go?
	All right.
	So I do want to come back to what you were saying here for just a moment.
	I was hoping to get a little more detail on what you're looking for in a guy.
	You said you don't really care about looks.
	Yeah.
	It's not that I don't, but it's not like my top thing.
	Like, you know, like, he's got to be clean, but he doesn't got to be like the most handsomest.
	I do have a question.
	So you said for a guy, looks are important.
	And for you, clearly being able to support you financially is important.
	So I'll re-ask my question before, instead of just looks, if he only had money, and that was it.
	That's all he had going for him.
	Would you stay with him?
	I mean, is he helping me?
	All he brings to the table is money.
	He's giving you his money, but he could be super ugly, bad personality, dirty, ruins your house.
	Definitely not.
	Okay.
	But that's either.
	Yeah, definitely not.
	I mean, if you're, I feel like, cool, you pay all my bills, but I mean, if you're just stressing me out.
	So you expect more than just financial stability.
	Well, yes.
	I mean, I'm kind of confused with, like, exactly what else I, what else?
	I'm only asking this because you said you bring to the table your looks.
	You didn't list any other things.
	Yeah, I mean, I don't think a guy who likes me as much to help me out like that, I don't think he's probably only interested in my looks, but he might be.
	So, if he's interested in more than your looks, but if he's not a good person, if he's not a good person, then he's not for me.
	Like, I don't want to deal with anybody who's a bad person.
	Like, you know, at least what I would define a good person or what I would define a bad person is, which my definition is going to be different from everybody else's.
	So, you know.
	So, would you say you're a good person?
	I'm a pretty good person.
	I think so, too.
	And, Nick, how's it getting worked with Andrew?
	Have you tried calling him?
	I don't see him much service.
	You can still try to do the voice call.
	I think he should, maybe he's just getting a couple things all set up.
	Well, to kind of echo the question that Abigail was asking before, perhaps you can restate it because there's a bit of hecticness going on.
	She asked, What do you bring to the table?
	Yeah, you know, my pretty self.
	Do you cook or clean?
	I clean.
	I cook sometimes, but I'm not going to cook or clean unless you're providing for me.
	So, do you expect a guy to do all those things that you want him to do immediately?
	Not necessarily.
	Okay.
	No, I mean, I think if the relationship builds out over time, sure, but then we're not having sex, if that makes sense.
	You're not having sex.
	Like, we could be dating, but we're not having sex.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, as in, if I like you and you like me, and you know, it's not, you're not there yet.
	Like, you're not trying to do something for me or help me out in my life, like, whatever, then, yeah, I mean, we could date for a while and stuff.
	But you wouldn't have sex until they start paying you for things.
	Yeah, I want to say paying me for things.
	I mean, you're going to make it sound like I'm an escort.
	Well, but I mean, I'm trying to be charitable here.
	Yeah.
	But you said that you're waiting to have sex until they fall into the provider role, correct?
	I think so, yeah.
	So you'll date a guy and then, but you will withhold sex until he does what?
	Until, you know, my life is taken care of.
	Okay, so like, why would I be intimate with you?
	Why would I be intimate with you if you're not, if you don't care about, like, just because we're intimate doesn't mean you care about me.
	Like, show me that you actually care about me.
	Like, do stuff.
	Like, even just bringing flowers and stuff, anybody could do that and then stop doing that.
	So I feel like that doesn't, for a man.
	Couldn't the guy provide for you and then stop providing?
	Yeah, and then we're not going to continue our relationship.
	My question here is: how is this not definitionally prostitution?
	It's definitely not prostitution because I'm not, for one, I mean, I'm definitely not slandering anybody, but I'm not on the street corner.
	I'm not it's not, it's not, it's not, oh, this is you wanna, uh, this is what it is.
	Like, even if you give me money, that doesn't mean I'm gonna be intimate with you.
	Well, it might not be.
	But if I like you, then yeah.
	Right, but that's okay.
	I acknowledge that it's not a super overt transaction insofar as I will have sex with you, pay me $300 right now, and then I'll fuck you.
	But if your standard is, I will not sleep with you until you pay XYZ bills.
	I think that's just a standard.
	I don't think, I think that's a standard women should most women should, because I feel like women are selling themselves short, selling themselves short of what they could actually be receiving in a relationship.
	And most men, especially wealthy men, have stay-at-home wives and they provide for them.
	So are they prostitutes?
	Are they escorts?
	Are they all that?
	I mean, I think you're selling yourself short because That have money and spending it on girls, it doesn't really even mean that he likes you or cares about you.
	Especially if he has money, he'll do that for multiple women.
	When a guy really likes you, he'll probably marry you.
	Guys are into marriage and stuff, but just spending money on you doesn't mean that he truly likes you and cares about you.
	And just because, you know, just like a lot of women date for a very long time, and you know, they might be bringing a lot to the table.
	They might have held this man down when he was down and out.
	They might have took care of his kids.
	They might have raised his kids.
	They might have bailed him out of situations, whatnot.
	That doesn't mean he's going to marry you either.
	So, what you know, what's the standard?
	Like, marriage is really a choice between both people.
	Like, so that's not like money being involved or not has nothing to do with marriage.
	I think, like, personally.
	But, you know, I think a man has more interest in you and will be more interested in a deeper relationship if he's already investing in you.
	It's going to make it very much harder for him to leave you.
	I don't think guys can.
	I have a question.
	I think they do.
	I have a question.
	I think that sometimes in just my personal experience with wife and everything, what I've brought to the table has made men not want to date me and intimidated me.
	Exactly.
	To the point where it makes me try to hide who I am.
	Men don't like very independent women.
	And it hurts me.
	It does.
	They have the desire to provide.
	I know.
	It's an independent woman, therefore.
	And that's where I'm like, I'm here to love you and I'm here to be there.
	And I would, I'm a very submissive person, but I just find myself in that situation a lot with dating.
	And it's just, it seems like they get jealous of me, like very angry.
	I've noticed this in my personal life to the point where, like it's like I've given and I've given and I've given, and I just don't know why you just can't accept, like want to see me smile, kind of thing, like you don't want to see me live, so so that's, that's what I wonder about things.
	So that's where, that's where the whole you know, bringing to the table.
	I try to hide what I bring to the table because I feel like if I bring too much, like can I ask you a question?
	So okay.
	So your new standard is, has this always been your standard with every single guy you have had sex with?
	Okay, so your standard is, you'll date a guy for months, but until he starts providing for you, so paying for your rent, paying for your car, paying for your makeup, your I forgot the other stuff your insurance, your utility bills you won't sleep with him.
	Until he starts doing that.
	Yeah, until he starts investing.
	A question, so you, you do.
	You're a single mom, the father of your child.
	Did he have to do all that stuff for you to sleep with him?
	No, but that was.
	He's the reason why I'm like this.
	So what do you mean?
	He's the thank you.
	You helped me out, but don't you think I mean um, what about, I'm sure, because I wait, hold on, hold on.
	So you dated other guys too before him.
	Right yeah, I was in a one relationship, and so have you ever had this stand like yeah, I mean my last relationship no no no, no.
	But I mean like prior to that.
	Like, have you dated multiple guys, not at the same time, but have you dated multiple guys and this was never the standard.
	You just you liked them, So you slept with them.
	Not really.
	I mean, because...
	So, are you saying that every single guy you've slept with, they had to...
	What?
	Provide?
	Like, provide?
	Provide?
	No.
	No, I just said that.
	My baby daddy, I mean, my baby father didn't really, but we were both really young.
	So I mean, I can't really expect when I look back at that relationship, I can't really expect that because I didn't have that standard going into the relationship as well.
	Also, I was young.
	I was 17.
	So what 17-year-old is thinking, like, oh, I got bills and stuff.
	Like, you're not thinking that.
	So, like, that relationship and me having a kid and all that, those were consequences of my actions.
	You know what I mean?
	Honestly, and I love my son.
	No, I love my son.
	And he's a blessing and everything.
	But I have my son at like 19.
	Like, that's young.
	Like, you know, so I just feel like for women, I just wish women would have more of a standard and they wouldn't end up in such crazy predicaments.
	But, I mean, in terms of kind of looking at, you know, what the guys who would potentially be wanting to date you, in terms of like the value proposition, don't you think you would have.
	Oh, yeah.
	What?
	She's just got shit, so I just let it up to either.
	Okay.
	Don't you think the value proposition to the men, like, don't you think you would have had more leverage prior to dating all these dudes, having being a single mom, you would have had more leverage to secure a guy who would actually be okay with the sort of arrangement you're proposing as compared to now?
	I'm confused with your question.
	Well, I mean, what do you mean?
	I mean.
	What?
	Just say it again.
	Just say the question.
	Okay.
	It's like you got a kid.
	A lot of single men, like if they don't have a kid, they probably don't want to deal with that.
	Not all men.
	Some men are okay with it.
	Yeah.
	I think it's hard to put anything out of it.
	How are the guys going to feel like, okay, you let the past 10 dudes hit it on the first date, but you got a three month.
	I don't know what your actual minimum is.
	You got a three-month waiting rule and the guy's got to pay for you and all this stuff.
	No, I mean, it's definitely not that.
	It's, first off, I didn't let the last 10 dudes hit for free.
	And nobody's hitting like that because I have a standard for myself.
	So, and I've always had a type standard.
	I was in a very long relationship.
	I was very loyal.
	You know, coming out of that relationship, getting another relationship, it was the same thing.
	I was very loyal, but I just had more standards in this relationship.
	Let me rephrase the question.
	Is the standard that you just disclosed that you have now the standard of the guy has to provide?
	Is that a standard that you held like all the previous men to?
	I don't know how many that is.
	I was with my baby father, no, because we were young.
	Like, we were both in like high school.
	Like, what high schooler is going to pay for a high schooler's bills?
	Like, that's not even a thing.
	But I didn't know at that time.
	So, any guy after high school?
	Yeah, I mean, kind of, not after high school.
	I was with my baby daddy till I was 22.
	So, anyways, every guy after that, I do want to introduce Andrew Wilson.
	Welcome.
	Welcome.
	This has been an absolutely hectic show, Andrew.
	You've missed quite a bit.
	But welcome, man.
	Hello, everybody.
	How are you doing?
	Good.
	My name's Andrew.
	You know, I guess to the whatever podcast chat, happy Father's Day to all the fathers out there.
	Happy Father's Day.
	Mass respect for you.
	And yeah, thanks for having me.
	I did have another engagement This Father's Day, but that's taken care of.
	So, here I am on the show and looking forward to interlocking with you guys.
	All right, welcome, Andrew.
	Good to have you, man.
	Good to have you.
	So, even the one who's been totally disrespectful and tired, even you, right?
	Even you, I'm happy to have a convo with you.
	I'm happy to talk with you too.
	You see how charitable I am this Father's Day?
	Did you get some intel, Andrew?
	Did the Crucible crew did they give you a little intel?
	Well, I listened a little bit as I was driving over to get some beer because I could tell I was going to need to fortify myself for this show.
	I did give a bit of a listen.
	But I mean, there's been way, way worse women on the show, let's be honest.
	Thus far, I think it's all good, right?
	We're all having a good time.
	Let's get back to that.
	Let's get the energy back up.
	We'll get back to having a good time here.
	Sounds good.
	That sounds good.
	So, I'm going to get into some of my pre-show notes here.
	I'm trying to see where we are.
	I don't know if you need any intros from any of the girls, but I'm trying to think where we left.
	Anson Knowles donated $200.
	Yo, thank you for your time.
	Happy Father's Day.
	Anson, question for each lady: Is satisfaction or joy what your father feels about their little girl's relationship and all strumpet behavior?
	Pride in immutable characteristics is evil.
	Strumpet's a crazy choice about yourself.
	That's what it's like.
	I'm not sure how your father feels about their little girl's relationship and their strumpet.
	Wait, I'm a little confused.
	Oh, what Anson is asking here?
	Uh, he's saying, Do you think that your father feels pride and joy at any of the person?
	Now, I don't know as I don't have the background on any of you just yet, but he's saying, If any of you kind of are involved in promiscuous behavior, do you think that your parents feel joy about that?
	Specifically, your father's.
	I got something to say about that.
	When my dad looked like you, you looked like he had something to say about anyway.
	Go ahead.
	I try when I first started dancing, I don't dance anymore, obviously, but I work as a you know courtesan.
	Uh, but when my mother-wait, wait, hang on, I'm sorry.
	Um, I just want to clarify very quickly.
	When you say courtesan, do you mean an escort?
	A legal uh prostitute at the Moonlight Bunny Ranch.
	Uh, it's legal and uh, yeah, they have got one in Vegas, actually.
	Yeah, they do.
	Well, well, isn't I mean, yours would have to be in Nevada, right?
	It is in Nevada, yeah.
	Mine's in Carson City, but they used to have one in Vegas next week.
	Okay, so yeah, so Carson City, about 25 minutes away from Reno, roughly.
	Yeah, so um, pretty much when my dad was a picnic, my mom was mad that she found my W-2 when I was a dancer back in the day when I danced.
	She said, You aren't working at the new dance bar, are you?
	And I was like, Well, yeah, I am.
	And my mom was kind of upset about it.
	But when my dad, he was like, He gave me the fist pump, and he's like, You go, girl.
	And I'm like, From like, you know, a dude that was in the military and stuff.
	Like, I was like, but but I'm gonna tell you this.
	So, my middle-hanging.
	Yeah, yeah, no, I'm gonna tell you.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, let's back up.
	And just so you guys know, if we're having a discussion back and forth, because I'm remoted in, when you're talking, if we're talking at the same time, I actually can't hear you, right?
	So I can only hear it one way.
	So, so if we can just talk one at a time, that'd be great.
	So, but backing up, I just want to make sure your dad found your W-2 that you're working as a, I'm sorry, a prostitute, and he fist bumped you.
	It wasn't the prostitute, I was a dancer at the time, but he said, You go, girl.
	What kind of, well, what kind of dancer?
	I was a nude dancer at a day journey.
	I mean, the delineation, I think, I think that's kind of semantics, right?
	Yeah, like you know, I mean, a lot of people, including myself, would consider stripping to be prostitution.
	It was, yeah, yeah, it was, it was true, but he's like, yeah, he's like, yeah, yo, girl.
	And I was like, oh my God, it felt kind of just, it felt good to me because I felt like at the time when I was a dancer, I tried to hide it.
	You know, I got a bunch of fake red bull shirts.
	So I would make fake red bull shirts and fake because to be like, I was a promoter or something.
	And I'd put on these shirts and say I was going downtown.
	This is when I was like 22 years old.
	And I would come back with the shirt on.
	Obviously, I wasn't using it the whole night.
	But finally, that's when my mom found out.
	But when my dad said that, I just thought it was so funny.
	What'd your mom say?
	My mom was mad because she was an ex-cop and she didn't like, she didn't like it.
	She's fine with the Tantra.
	I don't know if she's fine with anything else, particularly as far as like the courtesan work goes.
	You're fine with that Tantra?
	What's the Tantra?
	So I'm a Tantra practitioner and I've been to many retreats.
	These are like holistic retreats where we learn mind, body, soul, and sexual connection.
	Yeah, so it's like esoteric sexuality, essentially.
	She's fine with that.
	She's not really fine with like stuff that's like even girlfriend experience, pornstarch.
	She's kind of like borderline on that.
	But she's fine with the tantra, but she's not fine with the others.
	So it's really interesting.
	I think it's because I had to get trained in it.
	And she wants me to get trained in something.
	So she does.
	My mother does say to me, I hope you, you know, you're a smart girl.
	I hope you get trained in something.
	And I tell her, I was like, you know, I enjoy holistic sexuality.
	I enjoy exploring with people.
	I feel like I'm a safe person.
	And I have been to many, you know, retreats.
	And I've just been through a lot.
	So I know how people are.
	What happens at these retreats?
	At the retreats, so we really kind of got to dive into ourself.
	There's a lot of, if you Google, I'm trying to say, like, not a lot of them are, they're not filmed, but I went to the International School of Temple Arts.
	And a lot, a lot of is this like, is this like Teal Swan stuff?
	This is Teal Swan.
	I like Swan, but, you know, Teal, you know, I gotta, but I mean, is that the same ballpark?
	It's like Teal Swan, esoteric sexuality.
	It is.
	Kind of diving into yourself and channeling spirits in order to do sex magic, that kind of thing.
	Kind of, but they'll rip you apart at these things.
	Like you'll be in tears by like day three.
	They will just shred you to pieces.
	And it has to because you have to break and like crack open in order to be able to understand the depths of someone's emotions.
	So you have to be like put through the paper shredder.
	And if you are ready, a lot of these people were kind of grinded by life and then you get grinded by life even more when you go there because they unsoons again.
	Yeah, I mean, but it's basically cult brainwashing, right?
	You know, there is that.
	Okay, so I actually have some.
	Okay, so that is why I don't believe in communes and living on communes is because my mentor, she's passed away now, but her name was Salma Zadora and she's a tantric sex guru.
	And she grew up.
	Yeah, she grew up on one of those, like kind of, you know, the Jim Jones, that whole thing.
	And I don't believe in the problem with some spiritual communities that I have is the, like you said, with the brainwashing.
	It's so in spiritual communities, you can't fight.
	You can't like to say, oh, you're a jerk.
	You're a bitch.
	You can't say that.
	So what they do is they start to, oh, your vision might not be good today.
	Oh, oh my gosh, you might not be hearing me correctly.
	The gaslighting is big.
	So you've got to be really in tune.
	And when you call somebody out on that, they will block you.
	Like, I was actually blocked by a spiritual person who I followed with over a million followers.
	And I was blocked by her because I called her out on it because they were questioned.
	They said, oh, I think you just need to listen to me again.
	So why do you participate in these things?
	So there's some things I believe in, and then there's some things I don't.
	And that's why I don't completely live on a commune.
	I don't live that life.
	Because even my spiritual teacher, Aaron Kleinerman, who was the, you know, he was a war vet and he went into the Tantra and became a Tantra practitioner.
	He didn't agree with some of that stuff too.
	There's certain great things about Tantra, but the community and how they interpret it, there are those, there could be that weirdness that goes on in eye.
	Is there a lot of sex that's going on at these things?
	There is, as far as, not like sex, but it's like there is talk about sex.
	There's talk about like, you know, I guess how you open yourself up to, you know, the world, how you open yourself up to others.
	It's everything has to be consensual.
	For me, I didn't have sex at any of these.
	But I've heard at other retreats, not at the ones that I went to, that there were sex that goes down.
	And I didn't go to those, but I have heard that.
	Okay, so I'm very selective in teachers.
	Yeah, I get it.
	I just want to make sure that I'm clear because I'm kind of coming into the conversation late.
	But you are right.
	Yeah, I mean, it's very culty.
	It's very culty.
	There's no if, answer, or buts about it.
	Tons of people get damaged from these sorts of retreats and speak out about it for years afterwards.
	Some can, you know.
	But there's an entire swaths of Teal Schwann's following who've broken off and talked about the horrors that go on inside of these kind of sexual-based retreats.
	So I guess my overarching question is, and I, you know, think about it for a second before you answer.
	Do you think that maybe the reason you're interested in those, in those cult-like retreats, the sex retreats, is because they're actually less judgmental than the population at large about your profession?
	I think that I've been devious, like with, I think sex is something that isn't new to me.
	I've known this like my entirety of my life.
	And I think that the retreats, it's almost like a moth to a light, you know, like I go and I just feel like in my soul that it is right for me.
	But I know when something is wrong.
	I know when boundaries get pushed.
	And that's when I'm not cool with.
	I respect everyone's boundaries that I've been with.
	I would never run one of those retreats because I feel like that would be one of the most difficult jobs in the world.
	I don't know how my teachers do it.
	The ones that I have are the ones that I recommend.
	Well, they get paid a lot of money.
	That's how they do it.
	They do.
	They do.
	And the ones that I have are very good.
	And I would honestly, like on God, would not recommend anybody else than the ones that I saw because I don't trust anyone else but the ones I saw.
	Okay, so I think I got a bit about your background now and kind of understand where it is that you're at and where it is that you're coming from.
	Brian, if you want to continue with your questions on the backgrounds.
	Yeah, so we are going to get into some of the pre-show topics here.
	We have a decent amount to get through.
	Just trying to, a couple no-shows, I'm going to skip that.
	But I do want to, I kind of actually want, now that you're here, Andrew, I'm kind of want to get into some of our more heated questions, heated conversation topics.
	So I don't think we'll debate it, but I do actually want to get answers.
	So we'll do the bear thing.
	We're not going to really debate it much, but I always like to at least get the answers.
	So starting with you, would you rather come across a random man or a random bear in the woods?
	I'm going to go man.
	Um, I don't even know.
	You haven't heard this?
	No, I have.
	I've thought about it.
	I think both can bring danger.
	If you had to pick one.
	Well, like, yeah, if you just, if you had to pick one, if, um, you know, there was a button, there was a magic button, and you had to select one.
	One was bear, one was man.
	Which one do you think you would press?
	I'd probably say bear.
	Bear.
	Why is that?
	Um, I just feel like, you know, it's just, like, easier to kind of get them to go away.
	It's easier to get a bear to go away.
	I mean, yeah, I mean, I just feel like men are very unpredictable.
	Aren't wild animals unpredictable?
	I can predict that the bear is going to kill me.
	Yeah, I mean, that's why I'm saying, y'all, like, I don't know.
	But if you're going to ask me to choose one, I'm probably going to say bear.
	We'll get everybody's answers.
	Go ahead.
	So I picked the bear last time, and I picked the bear this time.
	I could eat him with the bad.
	Okay, what about you?
	Bear.
	Man.
	Wait, what did you pick last time?
	I picked the bear.
	Yeah.
	Okay, what do you pick?
	I picked the man.
	Yeah, random man, for sure.
	We do need to wait until she's back, the one who's gone from the table, to get her answer.
	Those of you who said bear, so you said bear, you said bear.
	Why bear?
	So I pick bear.
	So I've noticed, I've done some self-reflection since then and just recently.
	I've had a lot of negative experiences with men, but it seems like the more positive experiences that I have with men and the more safety that I feel, I might be inclined to pick the man.
	And I'm starting to wonder, did I just get bad luck at the draw, like in a sense, like in the past?
	And that's why my judgment is skewed, because that's the way I choose bear because of that.
	Is that a safe thing for me to do?
	Or if some people have really bad things happen to them, should they just kind of look at things as a whole and be like, look, you might have had like 10 bad things happen to you?
	But things could change.
	So I don't know.
	Why do you pick bear?
	Sorry.
	I think I would pick, well, I know I would pick the bear just because I'd say both have primal instincts, but overall a bear would be more predictable considering the fact that it is a primal animal and less intelligent than a man.
	So when you say the bear would be more predictable, you mean you could more predictably imagine it attacking you compared to a man?
	Well, the bear, say both are like per se hostile than if the bear's hostile.
	That's not, but okay, that's not the question.
	You don't know if the random man's hostile.
	You don't know if the bear's hostile.
	They could be.
	They might not be.
	Well, if the man's hostile, then you're taking the chance.
	That's less predictable.
	I'm saying if you know that, like, say, like, if you're stuck in the forest with a man and a bear, if the bear gets provoked, what's it going to do?
	Attack you?
	If the man gets provoked, you don't know what the fuck the man's going to do.
	So I'm saying the bear, like you know what it's going to do if it gets provoked.
	Let me ask you a question, though.
	You mentioned provoked.
	If I put both of the men, like just a random man and a random bear in this situation, I think actually, if you provoke a bear versus you provoke like some nerdy gamer guy who would never hurt a fly, like you could even go, like you could probably walk up to a lot of dudes and literally poke them and they would not do anything to you.
	Do you think you would have that same experience with men?
	Or sorry, excuse me, with bears?
	Well, the bear would definitely try to eat you and you don't know if the random man in the forest is going to be a nerdy gamer.
	I would argue you could actually do, hold on.
	I would argue you could actually do this social experiment and you could actually go out into the street and just approach a random man and you could even you could even like Like, poke him kind of annoyingly.
	Poke him in the shoulder.
	You don't know what they're going to do.
	He can't eat you out.
	Well, here's the thing, though, is, I mean, the.
	But, I mean, he's agreeing, right?
	He's saying, you're right.
	You don't know what they'll do.
	But let us assume for a second that you had 20 men and 20 random bears.
	If you went and poked 20 men in the chest like this versus poking 20 bears in the chest like this, which one do you think would be more likely to, I don't know, eat your face?
	Well, I don't know.
	I mean, you don't know.
	No, no, listen, like, the bear would be more likely to eat your face, but you don't know if the man, like, that's the thing, you don't know like what he has on him.
	He could have a no, I agree.
	You don't know.
	The man could freak out, right?
	He could freak out.
	He could do horrible things.
	But which one do you think is more likely to freak out if you walk over and start poking them in the chest?
	A random man or a random bear?
	Well, the bear would definitely eat your face, but you know for a fact that the bear would eat your face.
	That's predictable.
	That's what I'm saying.
	The whole point of my entire, I guess, opinion on this factor is that the bear would, in fact, eat your face.
	So you'd rather die because it's like predictably die.
	Yeah, like have a man look at you like that.
	You guys aren't understanding what she's saying.
	Well, she's just trying to word it where she wants to hate men so bad, but it just doesn't make sense.
	I'm trying to make it make sense.
	I continue to get her response from this.
	So the question is: Would you rather come across a random man or a random bear in the woods?
	Oh.
	I mean, why are you in the woods as a man?
	Okay, let me do it.
	Hold on.
	Because you guys are incapable of engaging with a hypothetical.
	No, no, no.
	I'm going to answer the question.
	Here's the scenario.
	Okay, okay.
	There is no motivation there.
	You're literally, you press, there's a magic wand.
	Yeah.
	And a random man in the United States, a totally random man, gets dropped into the woods.
	So do you.
	And you guys are going to cross paths.
	Wait, I'd rather cross paths.
	Cross paths with a man than a bear, to be honest, because maybe you can help me.
	Get the hell out of the woods.
	A bear is not going to be able to help me.
	Okay, so in this scenario, you pick.
	I'm picking a man, I think.
	I have a scary.
	I just feel like, you know, if I'm walking through the woods and then I just randomly see a man, I mean, let's run like a walking trail.
	But if I'm like lost in the woods and there's just a random man in the woods, I'll be kind of creeped out.
	It's not really creepy.
	Well, if you were lost in the woods and you found came across a random man in the woods.
	Well, I mean, I'd be like, I'm lost, but I'd be like, what are you doing?
	I guess you're right.
	You're right.
	I mean, wouldn't you be like, I'm lost.
	Can you help me?
	You're right.
	You're right.
	I'd be like, not like, what are you doing here?
	I'd be like, help me.
	I'd be like, help, right?
	Help.
	I'm lost in these fucking woods.
	This sucks.
	I have a question.
	You switched to man, right?
	Yeah, I switched to man.
	Okay.
	Andrew, you were going to have a back and forth, I think, with her.
	Yeah, well, I wanted to ask.
	So I just want to make sure, because I think I understand why a lot of women pick the bear.
	And I think that what you're trying to say is it's due to the predictable nature of bears.
	They're easier to predict.
	Men can do much more unpredictable things.
	And they have kind of the strength and will in order to have more perverse actions than the bear.
	Yes.
	Okay, so you kind of want us to see it from your angle.
	So let me ask a counter question so you can see it from our angle.
	And I'd like an honest answer from everybody.
	Do you think a man would rather tell his feelings to a woman or a tree?
	A tree, probably.
	Hang on, Hanga.
	Going around the table.
	Would a man rather tell his feelings to a woman or a tree?
	Definitely a woman.
	A tree.
	A tree.
	I feel like it depends on the situation, but I guess a tree.
	I feel like he wants to tell it to a woman, but he feels like he can't, so he'd rather just go talk to a tree.
	I agree.
	A tree.
	Probably a tree.
	Well, then if the social commentary is that we need to be looking at it from your end, that you perceive men as being kind of unpredictable and dangerous in comparison to this massive wild animal, which is known for, you know, mauling random people, then shouldn't you also take into account and take responsibility on the woman's end for the fact that men can't even talk to you or discuss with you how we feel about anything and would rather tell it to an inanimate object than you?
	Yes, and I have a quick question about that, that this for the table or whatever.
	My question is this.
	How come the idea of 20 men finding them in the forest compared to a bear sounds safer than me than me with one man?
	How come that is?
	I don't know.
	But I mean, I could engage with you on it, but why would I tell you how I felt about it?
	I'd rather talk to a fucking tree, right?
	And this is the whole point.
	The whole point is, is that you know I would rather open up about my feelings to a tree than open up about my feelings to you by your own admission.
	And yet the social commentary is only one-dimensional where you say, but well, how come men won't take responsibility for how we feel about them?
	Well, how come you won't see it from our angle that as we're having this discussion, I would probably prefer to take a random inanimate object, in this case a tree, and open up about my feelings to the tree than you.
	And you know it's true.
	Well, I mean, like, isn't that crazy?
	Like, where's the responsibility from the other direction?
	I need to all set that up for yourselves.
	I admit it, it is a bit outlandish in a sense because it's like, I mean, I'm thinking if I were to encounter 20 men or a bear, I would feel safer with the 20 men than the one man.
	I don't know.
	Maybe it's, is it because you have bad experience with one man?
	I never had a bad experience with 20 men?
	Is that it?
	Is that just the bias?
	Like the confirmation?
	Well, no, listen.
	So what we're looking at is we're looking at kind of a plural meaning here from the woman's perspective.
	So I'm taking myself out of my shoes, trying to put myself into the shoes of you.
	You say, listen, I'd much rather come across a random bear than a man because I can ascribe all of these motivations onto a random man of things that they could do to me, which are sick, twisted, dark, and horrible.
	And, you know, I can maybe at least predict a bear.
	And it's like, men, from the woman's perspective, like, I don't understand why men don't give.
	Only a female could be stupid enough to pick a wild animal that will kill them over a grown man who can save her life.
	There is a reason no good man wants these women.
	All right, Grin won motorsports.
	There he is.
	Yeah.
	Coming in.
	Grin won the legend himself.
	Actually, I do have a point to me.
	Imagine things like that.
	Okay, so anyway, so back to this, just real quick, this exchange.
	What we're looking at is the duality.
	I'll get you at it.
	If I'm taking myself out of my shoes and I'm putting myself in your shoes, I'm trying to see it from your angle.
	Because to me, it's insane, right?
	A woman saying, I'd rather have a random...
	But I'm going, okay, this is the problem with the social commentary from the female perspective.
	We're not listening to the women and how they feel about us.
	But then when I bring up the tree, you kind of instantly are like, yeah, of course a tree.
	But they don't give a shit, right?
	You're just like, well, and fuck them.
	I don't care if they would prefer to talk to you.
	Can I ask you a question?
	We have done nothing.
	We're perfect.
	If they have to go talk to a tree, that's also men's fault.
	Can I ask you a question?
	Go ahead.
	Why do you think men can't express their feelings to women or to anybody, honestly?
	Because y'all don't give a fuck.
	Yeah, because you don't care.
	And you don't.
	So the thing is, if you don't actually have a response.
	Yeah, so I'm going to answer your question, right?
	If you don't give a shit, and you don't, right?
	And this is why you know that men and we don't.
	Not and we don't.
	Who said we don't give a shit?
	You did, because you said that you know that men would rather open up to a tree than you don't.
	I'm so sorry, but me saying that I know men would rather open up to a tree does not mean that I don't give a shit about what a man says.
	Like, then why are they open up to a tree than you?
	Because men have to say that.
	Probably because of the system men have set up.
	Probably it's men's fault that they would rather talk to a tree.
	Probably because of the system men have set up a tree.
	Right, so it's men's fault that they would rather talk to a tree.
	Women have no accountability at all, right?
	It actually is.
	Yeah, right, exactly.
	That's the whole point of the duality.
	The reason we don't give a shit about the absurd fucking answer of women who go, I'd rather invite a bear in the woods.
	Even though none of you ever experienced a fucking random bear in the woods, you have no idea.
	You have a terrifying experience in your life.
	You have, what happened with you and the bear in the woods?
	Tell me.
	Go ahead, tell me.
	I'm going to have a story about you and the bear in the woods.
	No, I stood still, and it was predictable and it went away.
	What happened?
	I stood still.
	I could predict what the bear would do when I would stand and hide.
	This actually happened.
	Yes.
	Where?
	I'm from California.
	I've been to Tahoe multiple of times.
	So up in Tahoe, what type of bear came around you?
	You just stood still and it walked off.
	Yep.
	Because bears, guess what?
	They're predictable.
	Men aren't.
	Not bears, especially in Tahoe, are not predictable.
	Especially because they eat human garbage and things like this.
	People out there feed them.
	It's a massive problem.
	They're usually in those areas ultra-violent because they have no fear of humans.
	Totally unpredictable.
	But the point is, is that we don't, the reason that we don't give a shit about the social commentary on this, we don't care to see it from a woman's perspective.
	But don't you men understand why it is that you're so dangerous?
	Is because when I bring up a counterexample of the tree, you go, well, that's also men's fault.
	It is.
	It literally is your fault.
	You guys have set up this system for yourselves.
	Wait, what system?
	What do you mean, what system?
	Like men telling their sons, men telling their sons, you know, you can't cry.
	You can't express this.
	You can't express that.
	Be tough.
	Y'all set that shit up.
	So hold on.
	Abigail, you respond, then you have something.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, I would say the reason sons are raised to suck it up is you asked him.
	This is just an example.
	You asked me about the Kaladin's donated $200.
	Maybe the bear was at the funeral.
	Could be.
	Y'all making some money.
	You asked him why he thinks that men would pick the tree.
	And he answered and he answered with the same answer.
	And you said, okay, give me an actual good answer.
	So they elaborated on how they feel on the subject, and you started yelling at me.
	Whoever asked why they think I wouldn't want to share my feelings with that.
	Can you be straight?
	Just be straight on.
	No, be straight on.
	Like, turn the microphone.
	You're hiding behind the mic.
	Scoot it to the edge.
	Just scoot it to the edge of the table.
	Scoot the mic to the edge of the table.
	It is like so.
	Yeah, the reason he's asking that from the audience perspective: if your mouth isn't actually close to the mic when you're speaking, nobody can hear what you're saying.
	I hear that.
	I hear what you're saying.
	I didn't know my mic was far away.
	I apologize.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, I mean, it happens all the time because you're in the conversation and it's easy for people to shift.
	That's how body language works, all that stuff.
	My bad.
	Yeah, yeah, no big deal.
	But so if he expressed to Brian here why he would rather talk to a tree than a woman, Brian would understand.
	I doubt he'd talk over him or say that's not a good enough answer.
	He expressed those feelings to you.
	You talked over him, you said it wasn't a good enough answer.
	But you're also saying you responded that way and nobody would want to share their feelings with that.
	That's just objectively true.
	You responded that way and you're also blaming men for not wanting to share their feelings with women.
	If I'm, correct me if I'm wrong, but all they said is they would rather talk to a tree.
	And that was just the same thing.
	You're actually interrupting me and you're talking to me about interrupting you.
	I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $200.
	Big stresses that I can only solve must be internalized and dealt with.
	Saving the stress and worry from a spouse whom looks up to me for guidance and leadership.
	Amen.
	I'm talking to a fucking tree 100%.
	Yo, I'm so glad.
	Hey, thank you for the TTS, man.
	Also, Killer of Cereal, sorry if I was a little tilted earlier.
	I don't know if you're still watching.
	It was just kind of a hectic moment, but I'm so glad I'm not dating you.
	He was waiting for me to come on and wish me happy Father's Day.
	That's all.
	I'm not even sure.
	I'm not even sure if he's still in the chat, but I'm so glad I'm not dating.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Go ahead with your.
	I was just saying they told me that they would rather speak to a tree.
	And they said, oh, why is that?
	And I just said, well, y'all set that system up.
	That's all I said.
	Well, no, actually, the opposite happened.
	What happened is we asked you, what do you think men would rather do?
	Talk to open up to a woman or open up to a tree?
	And you to a tree.
	Right.
	So this was not us juxtaposing a position onto you.
	This was you rather.
	And you guys agreed that you would rather talk to a tree.
	And I said, yeah, and I said, it's I, but I would rather talk.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Can you just straighten up?
	Here, look, straighten up, scoot the mic this way, scoot it to the very edge of the table.
	Because what you end up doing is you're like hiding behind the microphone.
	So just speak straight into the microphone.
	I have a really bad posture.
	It's okay.
	Go ahead.
	So yeah, I was just saying, like, why would men rather talk to a tree?
	Probably because from the age of like two, they were told that they can't express their emotions.
	They can't feel this.
	They can't feel that.
	They can't cry.
	They need to toughen up.
	Yeah.
	What I'm going based off of is when you said, you asked them, why do you guys think women would rather or men would rather talk to a tree?
	And they said, because women don't care.
	And you said, give me an actual good answer.
	That was both of their answers, and you didn't like their answer.
	That was them expressing, and you didn't like it.
	But why do you think that's a good idea?
	I'm happy to engage women.
	I'm happy to engage with her answer because I think it's actually interesting and rather telling, right?
	It's the man's fault that he would rather do that.
	But this is the duality that I'm trying to point out.
	The duality is this.
	The reason that you think that men are so unpredictable, you don't know what they're going to do, this and that, is precisely because some men cannot control their emotions because they don't have good impulse control, because they do act out, and when they do act out, they do a lot of damage because of their lack of emotional control.
	And yet, here you are saying, if only men had less of this emotional control, could open up to us, wouldn't that be actually counterproductive to your position of the bear, though?
	I think opening up to a part of empathy, like to on a level of empathy.
	Nick.
	Well, okay, I'm willing to challenge my own delusion.
	I will say this.
	I'm willing to challenge my own own.
	Hold on.
	I'm sorry.
	Wasn't this directed at you?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Yeah.
	So you're kind of.
	What did you say?
	He was directing.
	You didn't hear what I said?
	Towards you.
	No.
	You didn't hear what he was saying?
	No.
	None of it?
	No.
	Fix what?
	Okay, well, then I'll just have the conversation with the person who's listening to what I'm actually saying.
	So anyway, back to where we're at.
	Wait, you know what?
	Hold on.
	I want to tune into something that actually just occurred.
	Andrew, the thing that you brought up was, do you think a man would rather share his feelings to a woman or a tree?
	Yeah.
	She wasn't listening to anything.
	Right.
	She wasn't listening to anything.
	Even though you've been doing it, because she doesn't care, right?
	Even though a room full of women, even though you've been perfectly respectful, Andrew, you've been perfectly polite.
	She intentionally just refused to even hear what you had to say and hear how you felt and hear how you thought about the conversation at hand.
	She's literally just proved your point.
	I'm just going to say it wasn't intentional.
	It's also your fault, Andrew.
	I'm just going to say, can I say you're taking on me, so can I say something?
	Go ahead.
	It wasn't intentional.
	I genuinely just faced out.
	He was dire.
	You guys, you literally.
	Which is why I would rather share my feelings with a tree.
	What would be the difference?
	If I had shared my, if I shared my feelings, I've shared feelings with men before and they've spaced out.
	Andrew, Andrew.
	Okay.
	I've shared my feelings with men before and they've spaced out.
	Okay, ADHD is a thing, honey.
	Learn about it.
	I said ADHD is a thing, honey.
	Learn about it.
	Hold on.
	Well, I mean, learn about it.
	Any gender can have it.
	Any sex can have it, okay?
	Hold on with your ADHD.
	Yes, dude.
	You space out.
	Like, hello.
	So, I'm sorry.
	I didn't hear what you said.
	My ADHD was going on.
	Okay, and that's fair.
	And that's fair.
	Wait, wait, what?
	I'm sorry.
	I can't pay attention to a word you're saying because my ADHD is going.
	But anyway, back to it.
	So back to the next one.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait, I got to ask.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Okay, can you just scoot your mic on the table?
	He's literally an inch away from this microphone.
	I don't know.
	Fix your posture.
	I don't want to.
	My mouth is literally so close to the microphone.
	I'm saying you can scoot the mic back and then you move your head back.
	But I'd rather just sit like this.
	Like, I'm more comfortable.
	Whatever.
	I'm not going to deal with this right now.
	Go ahead with your point.
	Okay, my point is: it is like in our society, women do find emotional men who talk about their feelings less attractive and less masculine.
	And so they really don't want to be with them.
	So men will mask those feelings because women don't want to be with a whiny guy.
	Who said that?
	I have a couple things on this whole vulnerability shit, too.
	No, but who said that?
	It's not what you say, like actions.
	People, women will leave emotional men.
	They just will.
	You see.
	Who said that?
	I mean, I don't know.
	I feel like it depends on the fact that I don't think it's a gender thing.
	Okay, first of all.
	I mean, it's pretty observable.
	It must be by your own standard because you say that men are too stoic.
	I can ask a couple clarifying questions on this.
	First off, men and women tend to try to resolve problems in different ways.
	Typically, men don't like to talk about their problems.
	We either want solutions or we're just going to accept it and move on.
	Now, I do want to try to look at this from a dating lens here.
	So when it comes to this vulnerability thing, do you guys, just show of hands, do you prefer a confident guy or a guy, like if a guy's approaching you, do you prefer him to be confident or would you prefer him to be like kind of nervous and shy and shaky?
	So raise your hand if you prefer confident.
	Raise them high.
	Raise them high, please.
	You prefer confident guys.
	Okay, so you and you prefer nervous, shy, shaky guys.
	I don't prefer like, honestly, anything because if someone comes up to me, I'm not going to judge them for how they are.
	I prefer guys.
	You're not going to.
	So confidence is not an attraction trigger for you.
	Confidence is attractive, but I've been with someone who I was very happy with.
	He was a tough guy, and he was emotional.
	He was.
	But you're not.
	Okay, if given the option.
	You're not telling him that he has to hear.
	Oh, what do you want to hear?
	It might genuinely be her answer, but she didn't really like.
	I don't know if she fully understood the question.
	So would you prefer a guy to step to you in a confident manner or a guy who's like shaky, a little nervous, eye contact's not great?
	I mean, he can be nervous.
	So if he's nervous, does that make him emotional?
	Well, we're talking about vulnerability.
	I think that that's true.
	So I do think that that would be the trigger, right?
	So if you're looking for confidence or things which you would gauge as a confidence in men, I think that the metrics are somewhat similar between men and women for how they judge confidence.
	And I think one of those standards is going to be emotional control.
	So if a person, in other words, if a fire starts in your kitchen and a guy starts running around and screaming just like you do, you would say that that's not a sign of confidence nor competence, right?
	Yeah, so that would be this kind of lack of emotional control under adversarial conditions seems like that would be tied in with confidence and competence.
	Well, I feel like a lack of emotional control doesn't like, I mean, like people can have lack of emotional control and completely fake being confident.
	Like that's true.
	Hang on.
	Yes, that's true.
	But what's interesting is that that's why when adversarial positions are pushed on them, you start to see whether or not that's a facade or it isn't a facade.
	That's one of the reasons that women shit test, right?
	Because they're trying to kind of push that and see if this guy actually is giving you a facade or if it's the real him.
	Well, what I've noticed a lot is that you've made a general stereotype about women, just saying woman this, woman, that, when you've made an assumption about one woman at the table.
	Not all of us are, we don't, not all of us don't care.
	Not all of us would rather a man speak to a tree than us.
	Like genuinely, like as me, like I try to be the best person that I can possibly be.
	If someone needs to talk to me, I'm not going to judge them for it.
	If someone walks up to the table.
	Yeah, but actually the kind of the fallacy here or flacious argumentations on your behalf, because what you're doing is you're taking a generalized statement and saying, but not me, though.
	But it's not mapped.
	But you're generalizing and going to be like, hang on, hang on.
	It's not mapped to you specifically.
	So if I say, for instance, women, hang on, hang on.
	If I say most women like tall men and you go, but I don't like tall men, though, that's a non-secret.
	It has nothing to do with what I'm saying.
	It would not change the fact that most women do, even if you don't.
	But it does change an opinion.
	Well, I'm just saying that not that every woman has the same opinion.
	Like, I have a different one.
	She's going to have a different one.
	They're going to have different ones.
	Like, everyone, like, you can't make a generalized, sorry, I'm not talking.
	You can't make really a generalized statement based off of one woman.
	Like, per se, like, I don't want to.
	We're not doing that, though.
	Well, you keep saying women, this, woman, that.
	Yeah, I know.
	I'm making a generalized statement based on what we see in observations in society.
	Not that every specific woman follows these same criteria.
	I'm sure that there's plenty of women who like short guys.
	I haven't met very many of them, but I'm sure that they're out there.
	But hang on, but in general, they don't seem to like short guys.
	Was it not a generalized statement when you said women don't care when men speak about their feelings?
	That's a generalized statement.
	That brings me to the point of the point.
	Well, no, that was applied at the micro, not the macro, because every woman at the table said that they know that men would prefer to talk to a tree rather than a woman.
	What does that have to do with the woman?
	Okay, that's where I had that original point.
	That's society's rums.
	That's not, it can be gender-based, but it also has to be aware of.
	So you object to generalizations?
	Is that your point?
	Not necessarily.
	I would say that some men would prefer to talk to a tree, but that's just because of society.
	That's not because of women or men.
	It's not like a gender.
	It's not because of gender.
	That's because of how society has trained them to think.
	Like, I would rather talk to a tree than anyone.
	It's not a thing about gender.
	It's just like comfortability.
	Because if that's true, I think we can test by asking.
	Let's just ask a basic follow-up question.
	Do you think that men are more likely to open up to their feelings to women or to other men?
	Probably to other men.
	Honestly, it depends on the type because I feel like with my everything together.
	Well, it depends because you talk about different stuff with like the world isn't black and white.
	There's layers to everything.
	There's generalizations.
	There's layers to everything.
	I have a comment.
	I agree.
	There's layers to everything.
	But if we were to say that 51% would be most and 49% would be not most, would you say that most men would prefer to talk to other men about their feelings or would prefer to talk to women about their feelings?
	From what I've noticed, actually, women, like most of most of my guy friends at least, they've talked about it.
	And I've talked about this with my parents as well, including my dad and my stepdad.
	And they're like, oh, like, there's just women and men have a different relationship.
	So if you're in, why in the world would you take the position that they would rather talk to a tree about their feelings than you?
	If you think most of them would prefer to talk to women over over men.
	That makes no sense.
	It's absurd.
	Because first it was trees and men and now it's women and men.
	So, what are we talking about?
	Yeah, yeah, but if your position is, do you think that a man would rather talk to a tree about their feelings than talk to a woman?
	I think that if that's what your actual position is, then why then would you say that you think that men would prefer to talk to women about their feelings?
	I feel like anyone would rather talk to a tree than another human being.
	It's easier to open up, honestly.
	You think, so, okay, so I see.
	So, you think that all people would rather talk to a tree about their feelings?
	But, like, coming from, I don't know, everyone here, I don't know, would you guys rather open up to someone or like talk to a tree?
	Because a tree's not going to judge you.
	So, that we can just clear this up really fast.
	We can clear it up super quickly.
	I mean, maybe not like dreaming.
	The thing is, what's he doing?
	We can totally clear this up in one second.
	So, going around with just a quick question, do you think then, going around the table one more time, that men would rather open up about their feelings to women or to other men?
	Show of hands.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, sorry.
	Do you think men would prefer to open up to other men about their feelings or to women about their feelings?
	Honestly, we're still saying women.
	I'm going to say women.
	I say women, and I have some interesting statistics on that.
	Okay.
	Hold on, keep going.
	Keep going.
	Men, probably.
	I don't know.
	Probably women.
	If they're married, women, but men usually friends.
	Probably men because they can relate to what they're saying.
	Women usually aren't able to.
	Andrew, I do want to move this on pretty soon here, but do you want to finish up?
	No, I'm just going to let that stand.
	Okay.
	Now, last thing on the bear thing.
	I do actually want to ask the question.
	So what percentage of men, those of you who answered bear, what percentage of men do you think in the circumstances provided would choose to victimize you?
	Starting with you.
	Go ahead.
	What percentage of men?
	Right, because so if it were in the United States, it's a random man, that's half the population.
	I don't know, how much is that?
	160 million men?
	You're asking what percentage of them would choose to victimize.
	Right, because you picked the bear over the man.
	So you must have done some sort of calculus where you feel that the risk, that's okay, you feel the risk is greater with a man compared to a bear, so you must have some sort of determination when it comes to risk assessment.
	So if you had to assign a percentage, which men would choose to attack you, I guess.
	Which type of men?
	No, no, no, no.
	What percentage of men?
	Which men would attack you?
	I mean, like, I feel like that's kind of hard to answer.
	I'm just going to piggyback off of what she said, which is that bears are predictable.
	We know that their main goal.
	But I'm asking you a question.
	So this is a good idea.
	I'm getting to the answer.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Bears main, like a bear.
	We know their main goal is to kill us, right?
	Whatever.
	They want to attack our face, how you guys are saying, whatever.
	Talked about that, yep.
	Men, we don't know, they have like a plethora of things they could do.
	Sure.
	Manipulation could be a part of it.
	They could be like, oh, I'm going to take you home.
	Don't even worry.
	And then, boom, they kill you.
	It could be a...
	And so that's why I feel like it's a higher percentage with men versus bears.
	Because we know what to do in the situation with a bear.
	Most people have been, I don't know if most people have, but I've been taught what to do in the situation with a bear.
	With men, am I not speaking into the mind?
	You're like over.
	Is it like only in the center?
	You just like think of like.
	I'm like actually so confused.
	Okay, think of the center of your mouth.
	The center of your mouth needs to be center with the microphone.
	Okay, so the sides don't count.
	I can't talk into the sides.
	Center of the microphone.
	Gotcha.
	Center.
	Yeah, there's a plethora of things that men can do.
	So can you answer the question though?
	What percent?
	Yeah.
	I just guesstimate.
	I acknowledge, yes, a man could do all sorts of things.
	So I'm going to say a higher percentage.
	I don't fucking know the percentage, but I'm going to say it's higher.
	Well, like 50, 70.
	How about do you think it's a majority of men?
	So more than 51%?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Do you want to actually give us a range?
	Do you think it's 60?
	You think it's 70?
	You think it's 80?
	I don't know.
	I just think it's a lot of men.
	Okay, so do you want to actually just throw a percentage out there?
	No.
	Well, you already said it's over 51, so just throw a percentage out.
	I just don't know the percentage.
	I just know it's like higher than half.
	More than half?
	Yeah.
	Per se, it's like 51%.
	Sure, 51%.
	Okay.
	You said there, correct?
	Yes.
	What percentage of men do you think would attack you in these circumstances?
	Based on my life, based on my track record, 10%.
	Honestly, I agree.
	Again, from my personal record, I feel like 51% from my personal statistics, not from anyone else's.
	Your personal statistics.
	Like from what's happened to me in my life, not anyone else's.
	Okay.
	So you have a, like, do you have any siblings?
	Male siblings?
	My brother.
	Father.
	Trainer.
	Uncles.
	Oh, yeah, no, I have a stepdad and a dad, uncles.
	Okay.
	And like all the men, so you're basically the men that you know in your life, 51% of them would victimize a woman in these circumstances?
	I wouldn't say the men in my life, but men.
	So you're just a better judge of character than the general population?
	Oh, no, no, not at all.
	Like, again, from my like, and I'm not speaking for everyone else.
	Everyone has their own stuff.
	Like, I don't hate men.
	Like, I'm just saying from my personal life, I love my steps.
	So in your personal life, what's the percentage?
	I'd say 51%.
	And I'm not saying like.
	No, of the men that you know, in your personal life.
	Oh, that are right now?
	That you know.
	Yeah.
	Right now, none of them, because I don't, like, I don't need those people in my life if they're going to like victimize me and like do this bad shit to me.
	Like, there's no reason to have them in my life.
	So every man that's in my life right now is, they're cool.
	I don't have nothing but respect for them.
	Including my father.
	Who else said there?
	Did anybody over here say there?
	No.
	Okay.
	So just to be clear, you guys think that 80 million men in the United States would choose to attack a woman in these circumstances.
	Just so I have that understanding correct.
	I think it's hard to put a number on this.
	How is it hard?
	I just think it really just like kind of depends.
	I don't know.
	If you put like a bunch of men in like say like a purge night where everything is legal, do you think that 51% of men would like be like go like nuts or not?
	That's just.
	I'm not entirely familiar with that movie.
	I think I have a basically they kill and do all the crimes illegal basically.
	All the crimes.
	No, even in that movie it wasn't that high.
	Like murder and stuff like that.
	So if you put even in the movie it wasn't that high.
	Even in the movie not at that many people participated in the purge.
	That's an insane number.
	Well that's a fantasy.
	50% of she was actually using that as an example.
	51% of men would do that.
	Why wouldn't they just enslave all women then?
	I don't know.
	I mean that's like that's like going back to the movie The Midwife or what's it called?
	The midwife or whatever, but like that's that's not why are we talking about movies?
	Movie.
	Because listen, I'm saying it was a hypothetical saying.
	No, I'm saying hypothetically if you got a real-life purge, like if everyone in this room, if we, sorry, if we started a purge, I think that 51% of men would like, I don't know.
	What percentage of women?
	I'd say, I don't know.
	1% of women.
	99% of women are good.
	Minimum, 51% of men.
	Well, they would go after men?
	No, I'd say like, I mean, it's obviously going to be a large amount because both genders obviously have issues, but statistically, more crimes are committed by men.
	What percentage of women in the purge situation?
	I mean, that's true, but it's such a tiny.
	Do you realize that the amount of violent crime perpetrated by men as a whole per capita, it's still very, very small.
	Most men are not out committing violent crime.
	Almost no man, in fact.
	Well, almost no man, but do you think that the repercussions were taken away?
	Could you please?
	What's about a small percentage of society which ever commits violent crimes?
	Teeny tiny percentage.
	I mean, you're saying most men are not men who are committing these crimes.
	No, but stop it.
	Okay, would they not do it because of morals or the repercussions?
	No, but are we speaking like, say, again, there's repercussions.
	Say the repercussions are taken away.
	Do you think that that would make more men act out?
	Are they not acting out like that because it's against their morals?
	I think it's a good idea.
	I think that more women would act out as well if you took them out of the morning.
	I mean, I'm not saying that's wrong.
	I just think statistically, according to all of that, like I don't want to mention certain topics on here, but more, and I'm not saying it doesn't happen with women, but statistically, more men do crimes like that.
	And I'm not saying, like, because I hate men or anything.
	Like, it's literally just a statistic.
	But I mean, there's no disagreement that more men commit violent crimes than women.
	Nobody's disagreeing that that's true.
	No, no, I know.
	It's the scale in which you believe it's true that we're questioning probable cause.
	That's 51%.
	Your statement, women could be like 49%.
	Was that like in the grand scheme of things, men commit a small amount of money?
	Grid one motorsport donated $200.
	Stupid women.
	A man in the forest is trying to get away from women.
	Stupid women have no interest in hurting you.
	Stupid women.
	Fucking professional victims on this show.
	Get some fucking help.
	Thanks for the $200.
	That's real sad.
	I'm going to let a couple people.
	Pay $200 to say that.
	need to read two chats um abigail you want to you want to try to hold on Nick, hide it.
	Hide it.
	Hide it.
	Hide it, please.
	Don't worry about it.
	Sorry, everyone.
	Very cocktail.
	Can't read it.
	Can you read it?
	How is the pink shirt girl?
	I'll read it.
	I'll read it.
	Thank you.
	Okay, how is the pink shirt girl demanding so much?
	But all she has is use blank.
	What's up with the Mexican chick?
	Okay, I'm not going to read.
	I'm not reading the rest of that, bro.
	Y'all, you fucking wild, dude.
	What?
	Law paladins, women want men to be emotional, but yet if Brian gets emotional about being lied to and manipulated, the entire panel jumps on him and attacked him for being emotional.
	Well, it's been fault.
	I don't think he was being emotional.
	No one attacked him for being emotional.
	It's a podcast.
	He can share his opinion.
	That's what the podcast is.
	yeah no one's that's a good point paladins I was kind of noticing that.
	Like, when I got tilted, like, do you see the sort of, like, how do I explain it?
	When I was tilted, there's almost this sort of, like, Goodbye, woke black man.
	Wait, hold on.
	Let me please.
	Let me finish.
	When I got tilted, there was this sort of like malevolent sort of satisfaction, like I've gotten under his skin.
	Like she enjoyed kind of getting me a little riled up.
	I feel like you enjoy riling them up as well.
	I feel like you're not.
	I don't enjoy riling people up.
	I prefer just having cold conversations.
	You've been talking about rudely, like even just, oh, speak in the microphone.
	I mean, you have to be a little bit more than that.
	How isn't that rude?
	I was rude to say that.
	Well, it's not that it's rude.
	It's the tone in your voice that you're using.
	And that I'm not.
	If I have to remind somebody seven times.
	Yeah, but you did it to me.
	You did it to me, and you didn't have to remind me seven times, and you gave me a rude tone of voice, which I don't care.
	At the show, before the show, did I instruct you politely to speak into the microphone?
	I instructed everybody.
	Sure, but you don't have to be rude about it.
	You better remind somebody one time.
	I don't even think it was about the microphone.
	Would you?
	It's your little comments like, oh, these girls can't even comprehend hypotheticals.
	You couldn't actually comprehend a hypothetical.
	Can you even pronounce hypothetical?
	Go ahead.
	No.
	You actually couldn't comprehend a hypothetical when she brought up the purge movie.
	You were like, why are we talking about movies?
	That was a hypothetical.
	You're out here saying we can't comprehend hypotheticals.
	That's rude.
	You're making all these little side comments.
	Sorry, Patrick.
	Well, no, that actually wasn't a hypothetical.
	So she was, what she was doing was taking an event, a placed event, and then making a creative analogy.
	It wasn't actually a hypothetical.
	She wasn't asking.
	I'm so sorry to step in.
	I'm going to ask you, Andrew.
	Yeah.
	Also, you commenting about me.
	Stop.
	Let's finish.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm going to have to interrupt you.
	No, you're not going to have to interrupt him.
	Go ahead, Andrew.
	Let's go.
	Yeah, well, I'm just saying that that wasn't actually a hypothetical.
	She was trying to draw statistics from something which is observable that she has seen before.
	There was not really, there wasn't a question which was involved that would have made that a hypothetical.
	Okay, great.
	Thank you.
	You.
	You're welcome.
	You telling me, oh, can you even pronounce the word hypothetical?
	That's a rude comment right there.
	Like, you know what you're doing.
	You're trying to rally.
	Because you've been sassy, dude.
	I am.
	I don't know how you can't even see that for yourself.
	Like, truly, it actually is boggling my mind, and I'm honestly concerned that you can't understand how you have.
	I'm just speaking to the microphone.
	See, and there he goes again.
	I've literally told you multiple times.
	Oh, my God.
	Is that really our biggest issue here?
	I feel like you're our biggest issue here.
	Or you could just do it.
	Is this really me speaking into the microphone our biggest issue here?
	You could just do it.
	I'm doing it right now, dude.
	You've now corrected it.
	Go ahead with your point.
	See, there you go.
	Like, you can't even like.
	I'm telling you to finish your point.
	No, you're not telling me to finish my point.
	You can't even converse with me on important things.
	You just like to point out, oh, look at you.
	Cool, cool, cool.
	Like, you don't even know how to have an actual conversation when a woman is bringing up a point that's actually correct.
	What's your point?
	My point is that you've been just as rude as I have been.
	And when I say that, you're just like, oh, can you even speak into a mic?
	Yeah, but you started it.
	You started it.
	You started it.
	I started it.
	I mean, he did.
	He started.
	Yeah, you started it.
	You're being a brat.
	Come on.
	Let's be real.
	You were being a brat.
	You know, you were being a brat.
	No, he was asking ridiculous questions.
	Oh, I think I can definitely have an attitude when necessary.
	You were asking ridiculous questions.
	You were prying her about her friends passing.
	I think that's rude and disrespectful.
	And I called you out on it.
	And then suddenly you have a problem with that.
	You called me.
	Are we doing call-out culture now?
	Are we calling you?
	He's doing call-out culture, you fucking bimbo.
	Like, hello?
	That's himbo to you.
	All right.
	Himbo.
	My bad.
	I'm moving on.
	That's himbo.
	Now, notice I didn't insult you at all.
	I'm going to just have to call you a bimbo.
	I'm so sorry.
	Yeah, remember how I never insulted you, but you insulted me?
	That's exactly how it started with Brian, too, because you're a brat and you can't control yourself.
	You call her a brat first, and she's stupid first.
	Actually, Andrew, that's a good point.
	You called me a brat first, then I called you a bimbo.
	Andrew, do you have kids?
	Yeah, there we go.
	Wait, do you have kids?
	Got you.
	Yeah.
	Do you talk to your children like this?
	Like, then you.
	Do I call them brats when they're being brats?
	No, I mean, like, just like the nagging and like the name-calling and just like, and the passive aggression.
	It's just funny because I'm watching a grown man like nagging.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Did I call anybody a name or did she say that?
	Yes, I told you that.
	Hello?
	Yeah, after, after, hang on, after what?
	After you called me a name?
	She started it.
	No, you got it first.
	You called me a brat first.
	Then I called you a bimbo.
	We're going to have to rewind this.
	No, you called him a himbo.
	You called me a himbo.
	I said you're a brat.
	You said the first.
	I thought you said that.
	I thought you said that you were being a brat, and that's why.
	And you were, you were, no, no, I thought this was a bad thing.
	I thought you said she was being a brat because you were saying that about their whole thing about her.
	And then that thing she called you middle go.
	Maybe I'm wrong.
	I didn't call her brat.
	I have to say that.
	I just said it's a bit of a bad thing.
	You didn't call me a brat.
	I'm so sorry.
	You're describing her.
	That is.
	Oh, my God.
	You guys are using some adjectives.
	I want a shirt that says himbo.
	Yeah, I want a shirt that says himbo.
	Actually, I'm a himbo.
	I want that as a shirt.
	I think you guys get a lot of money.
	Oh, you're just a bimbo.
	You can't take himbo.
	No, I'm not taking himbo.
	That's totally your thing.
	You're so right.
	It's B. B with B for you.
	Himbo.
	Himbo.
	I think it should be: you're a bimbo.
	No, I'm a himbo, and that's the shirt that we got made.
	Yeah, what man would be like being called a himbo, though?
	I don't know what to say.
	Do you like being called a himbo man?
	Yeah, sure.
	That's fine.
	I mean, that's fine with me.
	Okay.
	I love that for you.
	I'm going to read some chats.
	All right.
	Himbo.
	Thank you, Cider.
	A bear might maul you to pieces if it thinks you are a threat to its cubs.
	Also, a bear is not going to help you find a way out of the woods, but the man might.
	In fact, most men are decent and would try to assist a woman lost in the woods no matter how much they yap.
	Okay, thank you, Dixon Cider.
	Wait, holy fuck, bro.
	Your name.
	Oh, you fucking got me, you son of a bitch.
	You son of a bitch.
	69 Dixon Cider.
	You got me, bro.
	What's that mean?
	Oh!
	69 Dixon Cider.
	Okay, all right.
	Greg.
	Oh.
	Sorry.
	You can reason with a man.
	You can't reason with a bear.
	I don't actually know if you can reason with a man.
	I mean, not a predator.
	I'm reasoning with y'all.
	How are you going to reason with a predator?
	But I'm not saying all men are predators.
	Your guys' logic why you wouldn't choose the man and you choose the bear because the bear is more predictable is why I would choose the man because I can predict.
	There's like, even if it is a 51% chance, a 51% chance that I'm going to be victimized, that is way better odds than 100% or like even 99% chance that I'll get killed.
	I feel like if you had a 51% chance that you were going to get victimized, you would go with the odds that you're going to get victimized and you wouldn't talk to a man.
	But with that logic, that is.
	That's screwed versus 100% chance that I'm screwed.
	51% chance.
	So you got a 49% chance that you won't be victimized.
	I'm not agreeing with it.
	It's also not 100% chance.
	But if you got a 51% chance you're going to be victimized by a man for sure.
	And you know this is a statistic.
	You're not going to talk to a man.
	You're not.
	No, I'm choosing.
	But you're probably not.
	I'm choosing the man because the odds that I'm going to talk about.
	No, you're not.
	Please just speak into the mic straight on.
	Versus the, I would say, maybe 99% chance that I get victimized by a bear.
	The odds are way higher for the jail.
	I mean, so you're saying it's 100% chance you're going to get victimized by a bear and only a 51% chance you're going to get victims.
	I'm using the 51% chance.
	I would say it's way less.
	I'm using your guys' statistics.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Hold it up.
	It's going to be the 5'10 shot.
	All right, brown bear.
	Kyle.
	Kyle.
	Up to 9 feet tall.
	13 pounds.
	Claws up to 4 inches by force, 1,200 PSI pelt for up to 5 inches speed, up to 35 miles per hour, Kyle.
	510, ooh, 175, 174 pounds.
	Project engineer said hi to you at the gym.
	Yeah.
	My god.
	If you had to choose between these two, which do you pick?
	The bear.
	Kyle.
	What if Kyle has a gun?
	Oh, boy.
	What if they're getting shot and mauled?
	Oh, man.
	Well, I mean, it could be worse than that.
	What if Kyle manipulates you, takes him into his bird?
	Take my head.
	Takes you into his truck.
	Yeah, what if?
	And what if the bear hurts you?
	You know, the number one.
	We're working with what ifs here, Brian.
	All right, well, yeah, okay.
	We're working alone out of forest with a man.
	That's what we taught me.
	All right, so moving on to.
	I'm just going to get through my rapid-fire questions here, then we'll get into the pre-show notes.
	So See here.
	Hmm.
	I'm going to have to go.
	are men or women physically stronger men men men men men men men Obviously, they have testosterone.
	Yes.
	Women have estrogen.
	They didn't know.
	Women also have testosterone, just so you know.
	Yeah, and so do you have to do that?
	Men also have estrogen.
	Okay.
	I'll wait until they're all back then.
	We have Brian Burns.
	Using the logic put forth by the women here, they'd rather fall victim to a bear 100% of the time compared to the 51% probability of being victimized by a man.
	Sad.
	Who was the one who's saying, was it the girl who just got up or someone was talking about, anyways.
	Grid one motor support donated $200.
	I double-dog dare any of you strumpets to debate Mrs. Rachel Wilson.
	I know you do not have it in you, but it will be entertaining to watch you make excuses why you won't do it.
	Yeah, Rachel Wilson, good debater.
	Andrew Wilson's esteemed wife.
	Got it.
	TikTok.
	Brain situation.
	Okay.
	I'll just wait for her to get back.
	Actually, I'll just go into one of my.
	Hold on.
	She's a no-show.
	Allison, why don't you tell us the abandoning guy, the whole abandoning a guy story?
	Okay.
	So I've only, this was before I became a Christian about four years ago.
	So please keep that in mind on the way that I acted.
	So I was like 22 years old and I was on Tinder.
	And I enjoyed, you know, going to bars and drinking.
	You know, I was in Wisconsin.
	We drank a lot.
	So I meet this guy and he meets me at a bar.
	And when he meets me, I'm drunk.
	I'm very, very intoxicated.
	And he's like super into me.
	And I tell my friend Liz, who is my DD, we should go to Wisconsin.
	Like, I want this guy to meet my mom because I just like him so much.
	And we're in Texas.
	And he agrees to it.
	So he gets in the car with me and my friend Liz.
	She's driving to go meet my mom.
	So we actually stop at his mom's house.
	I meet his mom.
	Keep in mind, I'm very drunk, okay?
	Like I would not be able to probably walk by myself.
	So I invite him with us.
	So I meet his mom, he packs a suitcase, we get in the car, and we're heading to Wisconsin.
	Well, in about the bottom of Arkansas, I started to sober up a bit.
	And I'm like, who's this guy in the back seat?
	You know, I'm like, what are we doing here?
	And we've committed to a trip, and it's like 15 hours.
	So I'm telling Liz, I'm like, we need to ditch this guy.
	And she's like, no way, like, that's so mean.
	Like, you, you know, invited him.
	You met his mom.
	And like, I'm like, I don't care.
	I was like, I literally don't care.
	Well, anyways, we kept driving and Liz is like, no, that's messed up.
	I just didn't feel safe.
	So then we were in the bottom of Illinois.
	It's about 11 hours outside of Texas.
	He was taking turns driving.
	I'm completely sober.
	He went to a gas station to go get something to drink.
	And his suitcase was in the trunk.
	But I jumped into the front seat and I like threw it in reverse and I peeled off.
	And I was like, block him on everything right now.
	And yeah, we just blocked him and we left him in the bottom of Illinois.
	But I think he had his phone in his wallet, so he was good.
	But you stole his luggage?
	Technically, but I know Liz's parents did eventually get it back to them.
	And my dad wasn't mad at me.
	He was happy.
	Oh, well, I guess that makes it all better then.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	She's Christian now.
	Well, there's why.
	Yeah, I mean, maybe hanging out with a tree is a better idea, too.
	Not just talking to one.
	I don't know.
	Would the tree, would the tree abandon you in the bottom of Illinois?
	I don't know.
	I don't think it would.
	You don't think like men have done type things to women?
	Oh, let's shift the burden over to men again.
	So she does something absolutely horrible, and that's also men's fault, right?
	Because they've done horrible things, so therefore no accountability, right?
	Can two people suck at the same time?
	Yes.
	Men do bad things.
	She did the bad thing.
	Exactly.
	Like, I admitted that I did the bad thing.
	I put myself in a bad, dangerous situation, in a stupid situation.
	Why would I bring him to meet my mom?
	I was wasted with myself.
	Wait, but how what?
	You mentioned dangerous situation.
	How long was he with you?
	Sounds like he was in the dangerous situation.
	He was.
	But like 30.
	Well, I thought, too, he's got bad judgment.
	Why would he get in the car with us?
	Well, he made me.
	Oh, it's still, it's his fault.
	What a psycho he is.
	What a lunatic.
	This guy who trusted you and got in your car and did nothing to you, who you abandoned and stole his luggage.
	I mean, because you didn't feel safe.
	What?
	What kind of lunacy?
	What kind of man just gets in a car with two random women?
	Well, I was really wrong.
	It's always the man's fault.
	Always the men's fault.
	It goes both ways.
	It does go bad.
	It goes both ways.
	It's a two-way street, baby.
	I didn't feel safe.
	How does it go both ways in this situation?
	I mean, I'm not saying that what...
	No, no, no.
	I'm never, no, I'm definitely not saying it's this man's fault in this situation.
	I'm not agreeing, but I'm saying to like hate on her, like, oh, yeah, no wonder why I'd rather talk to a tree.
	Like, men have done all types of stuff to women, too.
	So it's not really, like, fair to say that's fair.
	That's a whataboutism.
	So what about the men, though?
	What about the men, though?
	What about what the men do?
	That's bad.
	Okay, great.
	Take her to jail, man.
	You can shift accountability off from her story and horrible things she did that she justifies by saying, because I didn't know that.
	Where are you debating this from against yourself?
	I said that it was before I was a Christian.
	I was horrible.
	I never put the blame on him.
	I was the problem.
	You said you justified it by saying that you didn't feel safe.
	No, I didn't.
	She didn't say she was safe.
	I never said I didn't feel safe.
	I said I put myself in a dangerous situation.
	And you didn't feel safe?
	I never said I didn't feel safe.
	Did I?
	No, no, you didn't.
	That's okay.
	You didn't feel safe.
	It's not that I was afraid of him.
	It's that I put myself in a dangerous situation.
	I'm just saying I said it was before I was a Christian.
	I did something really bad.
	It was a horrible thing.
	And that's how I opened up with it.
	I'm not saying it's this guy's fault.
	I felt bad for him, but also I was a terrible person.
	That's fair.
	I mean, have you ever said you were sorry to this guy?
	No, because it was years later, like when I realized how bad it was.
	But no, I wish I could.
	Scott, if you're watching this, I am sorry.
	She said, baby.
	I didn't believe, and that's okay.
	But that's not why I said that accountability.
	I ditched him because I was a mean person back then, and I didn't care about other people or how bad it put them out or anything like that.
	The world revolved around me.
	What did you do for the rest of that weekend?
	I went to Buddy O'Brien's house and went snowboarding.
	And we did go to my mom's.
	And yeah.
	So you went and partied?
	I mean, yeah, I was 21, 22 years old.
	I was an idiot.
	Okay.
	I lived for myself.
	What is your point here, Andrew?
	I was just asking a follow-up question.
	I was curious what she did that weekend.
	What does that have to do with anything?
	I'm sorry.
	Does every question need to lead to some kind of gotcha outcome?
	Or can I just ask kind of general questions?
	What was the point?
	I was also just asking a general question.
	Yeah, what was the point of her story?
	Probably to get that reaction, I guess, out of it.
	You don't know?
	You don't know what the point of her story was?
	I mean, I got in halfway through, so.
	Yeah, so I don't know.
	So my question is to have a point.
	Her story doesn't.
	Dude, I don't know.
	I'm trying to follow the logic here.
	Oh, man.
	Yo, thank you, Kill of Cereal.
	Sorry if I was a little tilted earlier.
	My bad, man.
	Tilted, Brian.
	What does that mean?
	What does that mean?
	Yeah, what does that mean?
	Tilted.
	It's a video game term, actually dating all the way back to pinball machines.
	So when you used to play a pinball machine, if you're playing the game and you got frustrated, people would literally tilt the game.
	And so in the video game, if you keep losing matches or you're not getting good RNG, you're not getting good luck in a video game, you can become frustrated.
	It's a video game term, tilted.
	I have a question.
	I'm glad you turned it all around and that you don't do horrible things like that anymore.
	I'm just kind of curious.
	Play video games?
	No, no, no.
	To the gallery.
	But you took his luggage.
	I mean, I wasn't thinking about that.
	I thought it was my moment to ditch him.
	Liz, it was her car.
	She was saying no, and I just thought we're ditching this guy.
	It was like, I could not bring him to my mom.
	I won't linger on this.
	Did you guys go through his luggage?
	Yes, we did.
	Like, to get stuck.
	No, we just wanted to see what was in here.
	And we found what did you find?
	Okay, you know, like those little pills that you can buy at a gas station?
	Like rhinos?
	Yeah.
	So he already thought because I gave off that impression.
	So I was like, man, like, no, fucking.
	That's right.
	No fucking way.
	And that's why she left him, not playing.
	She was like, this man's got something to do.
	No way he had boner.
	No, I swear.
	There's no way he had boner pills in it.
	He did, and I told my dad you could call me.
	Mike.
	Okay, all right, fine.
	He had boner pills.
	Okay.
	But he was under the impression you guys were going to go off for the weekend and smash, right?
	Probably if I invited him, yeah.
	I mean, I'm guessing.
	I was so drunk.
	Okay.
	Good shit.
	But a long time ago, nine years ago.
	Good run.
	I've done someone like that before, and I felt bad.
	Why don't you tell us?
	Not too bad, though.
	Tell us what happened.
	Well, basically, I was out at the club.
	Right.
	So basically, I was at the club, and I met this old man who was buying me and my dudes some drinks.
	Wait, sorry, did you say a man or what?
	I said, I met this man, this older man who's buying me and this dude some drinks.
	And then he offered to give us me and my friends an Uber back home.
	So, you know, he was going to give us an Uber back home.
	And then I checked the address, and the address was actually to his hotel.
	So.
	So, wait, what did you do?
	Well, I clocked him.
	I said, that is not our address.
	Change that shit.
	Put in our address.
	Uber came.
	He got in the car.
	And then my friends kicked him out of the car.
	I actually don't think you did anything wrong there.
	As explained, he was going to get you an Uber back to your place, right?
	But then he was trying to get you guys, unbeknownst to you, to his place.
	I think the panel can agree.
	I don't think you did anything wrong.
	You're protecting yourself in that situation.
	Unless I'm misunderstanding something.
	Thank you guys.
	I was feeling guilty.
	No.
	Why?
	Well, the plan was scary.
	I'm glad that you noticed that beforehand.
	Well, yeah, but it wasn't for him to come back to the place.
	He was just supposed to get us an Uber to get out of here.
	Oh, I think I see.
	So you felt like.
	I think he thought he was supposed to come hang out with us.
	Okay, I sort of understand.
	So we can't.
	You get what I'm saying?
	Was he was kind of just doing you like a simp, nice thing, just like he was going to pay for your you and your friend's Uber.
	Right.
	And he maybe thought he was going to go hang out with you guys, but then he told, put the address to take all you guys into this address?
	Yeah, originally he put it into his address, and I was like, no, put it into our address.
	And then I think he thought he was going to come kick it with us.
	Oh, wow.
	And then they like start like they started screaming in the Uber, which I thought was a great time.
	Y'all were drunk.
	Everybody was drunk, I'm assuming.
	Yeah, but I also thought it was a smart move.
	Like, they started screaming in the Uber and being like, we don't know this dude.
	And then they kicked out the dude.
	Poor guy, yeah.
	So, yeah, I'm saying from your guys' perspective, like, yeah, maybe that was fucked up.
	No, I think this was actually probably just like a drunken mix-up.
	I think it was a smart thing to do on our end.
	I mean, if you didn't want to hang out with a guy, I don't think there's anything wrong with telling him that.
	She didn't want to hang out with a guy.
	Why did you not hang out with him?
	And she told him no.
	Let's talk about that.
	It's a little different.
	A little different.
	In any case, okay, let's go through the rapid-fire questions.
	Who is the primary victim of war?
	Men or women, starting with you?
	Oh my God.
	I'm going to need a minute to think about that.
	Let's not start with me.
	Plead the fifth.
	How about I'll count to ten?
	No.
	You're going to have to start with somebody else.
	Okay.
	Start with you.
	Go ahead.
	I'm going to go men on that one.
	I'll say men.
	Men.
	I think both, but both.
	Yeah, I think both.
	Both.
	Yeah, Loki.
	Men?
	Probably men.
	Okay.
	Now, for those of you who said both, assuming you had to pick one or the other, which do you pick?
	Men.
	I mean, I don't.
	I can't really pick because I feel like, I mean, I don't know if y'all want me to elaborate, but I feel like the women are suffering just as much.
	If the men are at war and they're dying and the women got to pick up the pieces of all that, you know, and then raise children by themselves and all that, then, I mean, they're both really victims.
	I would say both are victims, but he asked who's the primary victim.
	Primary.
	I mean, I think both.
	Like, rather, like, just because you're dead, I mean, there's children now growing up with fathers and all that.
	But you get to watch them grow up.
	Okay, let me get your answer.
	So, and then we're talking about like literal war, right?
	And also, like, metaphysics.
	Yeah, so you said both.
	If you had to pick, which?
	Statistically, I don't know.
	I mean, what, like, I don't know.
	If you look it up, it'd probably be men.
	Okay, so going back to your point, you're saying, well, it's both because, well, the men are dead, but the women, it's tragic.
	They've lost their husband, their father.
	Yeah, you don't know what you have to do to keep it going.
	But wouldn't you agree that when it comes to being a victim of something, being really, really sad isn't as bad as being dead?
	I mean, what's the emotional trauma being passed down now onto these generations through these men being dead?
	I mean, sure, they're the primary victims.
	Are they the primary victims?
	I don't know.
	Like, because now you go to war.
	Now, let's say your grandpa goes to war, your dad goes to war, your uncles go to war.
	Now, your grandma and your mom is raising, let's say, five, six, seven children, and you can't even raise these kids.
	Like, I don't know.
	Like, and these kids don't have any fathers in their life.
	So, are they really the, I mean, the men, sure, they died.
	They went to war and fought and died, but they're still a victim.
	Let me ask you a different question.
	If somebody has cancer and then they die of cancer, are they the primary victim?
	Oh, of course.
	Or that's cancer.
	That's a disease.
	I think it's different.
	But you stop to pick up the pieces and you have emotional trauma.
	That's true.
	All the same side effects, right?
	Well, when you say primary victim, are you talking about like physically?
	Like, okay, obviously the men who go to war.
	In totality.
	I'm not making any differentiation between.
	I feel like you kind of have to, though, in this situation.
	No, not really.
	Why not?
	Well, the question is in totality.
	I feel like it goes both ways.
	I think he made a good point with the cancer thing.
	I do think he did make a good point with that.
	Speaking of which, we didn't get your answer to the question.
	Both.
	Both.
	Okay.
	I would ask, who would you rather be, a man in war or a woman at home stuck with, you know, picking up the pieces?
	I mean, you're asking a woman from her point of view, what I would rather be.
	I mean, I don't know.
	That's a fair question.
	Just what situation would you rather find yourself in?
	I mean, I wouldn't even want to be a man, so.
	I don't know.
	Okay, then we'll just ask it this way.
	Would you rather go fight the wars while the men stayed at home?
	I mean, if I was physically more.
	Huh?
	As you are right now.
	As I am right now.
	But I want to fight a war.
	Definitely not.
	Yeah, definitely not.
	I mean, I don't think anybody wants to fight war.
	Do you think, so let's assume for a second that you're happily married, okay, and your husband has like a busted leg, okay?
	And you get drafted and you get sent off to war and he stays home.
	And while you're in the war and there's blood and guts everywhere and you're watching your friends get, you know, sniped and all this other stuff and you hang on and you die, is your husband as much of a victim as you?
	Wait, wait, wait.
	I'm sorry.
	So if my husband's like a stay-at-home because I don't know what happened.
	I got drafted.
	Okay.
	Is he much of a victim?
	Yeah, I think so.
	I think now he's got to pick up the pieces of.
	Yeah, he's just as much of a victim of war as I am, I think.
	That's great.
	In his next marriage, you can sit down and be like, oh, man, I've had it rough.
	My wife died in a war, and I'm as much of a victim as she is before him.
	And so, you know, really?
	That's what you think?
	That's the point of view?
	Yeah, well, think about a woman.
	I mean, if a woman has sit there and her man died, and now she's got to go on with that, I mean, who is to even say, like, she goes and remarries, but let's say she does.
	I'm not saying she's not going to have like emotional trauma from it.
	I'm just asking, do you really think that she's the primary victim here?
	I think she's most, I mean, a primary victim.
	Yeah, I think so.
	I mean, but that's just my opinion.
	Well, then, how come your husband wouldn't be the primary victim if he was?
	I just said he was.
	I just said he would have been.
	Oh, he would have been.
	I mean, I said both.
	Like, my answer to the question wasn't man or woman.
	It was, I feel like both are.
	So that's my answer.
	It's not.
	I don't think they can choose a primary.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I don't think, like, I think they're very much equally primary victims of war.
	That's what I think.
	They're equally primary victims.
	Yeah, there's a war going on, just like cancer.
	If my husband dies of cancer, I feel like I'm primarily a victim of cancer.
	It took my husband.
	Now I have to sit here and pick up the pieces of that.
	So now that makes me somewhat a victim as well.
	Like, I had to deal with that.
	Maybe just because I don't have cancer to change.
	So if you could choose, if your husband had cancer or you had cancer, you could choose which one would you choose?
	Like if we had to choose which one had to have cancer.
	I mean, I think being a righteous person, you'd always choose yourself.
	So I guess I would choose myself.
	I wouldn't want to.
	You choose yourself.
	I wouldn't want, yeah.
	I mean.
	But wouldn't you be victimizing him a bit?
	I mean, yeah, but he would be a victim if he chose.
	It'd be the same way, vice versa.
	If I wanted to do it and he wanted, you know, so.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Well, I have a couple clarifying questions on this one.
	So when it comes to some of you said both, does anybody here think it's women or is it both?
	I think it's both.
	Say more.
	Okay.
	So I'd like to perhaps break this down into a couple different conflicts.
	So, and I want to break it down geographically.
	So, the United States, for World War I, who's the primary victim of war of the U.S. population during World War I, men or women?
	Or is it both?
	Wait a second.
	Okay, World.
	But you're saying the primary victim of war.
	In World War I. Does that change your answer at all?
	For those of you who said both?
	Well, I mean, who was the primary victim who had the most casualties was obviously men and probably young men at that.
	But, you know, does that mean the women weren't victims in World War I?
	Yes, they definitely were.
	They had to pick up the pieces.
	The women had to pick up the pieces.
	Okay.
	Your answer?
	You said both, right?
	Okay, for World War I, what's your answer for U.S. men?
	For U.S. men, I think, well, since I said both, I feel like men, it's more physical, like physical trauma, and for the women, it would be more mental.
	And I'm not saying that war doesn't have.
	For the women.
	Well, I mean, it's just because, like, say your husband died, and that's like the love of your life, and like you love that man, and he dies.
	And it's like, oh, like, that's like women in World War I, or no, I guess it was probably more like World War II, where it was like the economy went really bad, and women were the ones who had to carry the economy while men were at war, you know?
	So, just to be clear, on the World War II note that you just brought up, you know, they had to get up and like go work.
	Yeah, but it's not because women didn't have rights before that.
	Those victims.
	That's why they gave us rights because they couldn't work.
	Weren't they like old man?
	Just to be clear, you said women didn't.
	There's a lot of people.
	I mean, they did have some rights, but they didn't have the right to vote.
	Wait, just to be clear, just to be clear, women, you're saying your argument is women didn't have the right to vote during World War II.
	I mean, I can't remember the year, but if it was the 30s, 40s, or 50s that went back to the war.
	What year did women get the right to vote?
	I don't know.
	Was it the 50s or was it the 30s?
	Here, let me ask you a different question.
	What decade was World War I?
	It was in the 1910s, right?
	Well done.
	What years were World War II?
	It was the late 1920s, 1930s, I believe, wasn't it?
	Or didn't it start?
	It all started like Nazi Germany, all that started around like the 20s, the early 20s.
	So I can't give you exact dates because I can't remember.
	I mean, you said late 30s.
	No, no, I said late 20s, early 30s, right?
	Well, not late 20s.
	Late 30s is correct.
	Late 20s for World War II, Nazi 2019.
	Oh, okay.
	So, okay, women got the right.
	Okay, World War I, 1914 to 1918.
	Women got the right to vote in 1920.
	World War II, 1939, 1945.
	Right, okay, so there you go.
	You know more than me.
	You said that the workers.
	Well, I know women weren't really working during World War II up until that time.
	So I know that that's when women became in the workforce more during World War II.
	Women having to be involved in the war effort during World War II is a bigger level of suffering and victimization than the men who had to go.
	I mean, what are the women having to deal with?
	Like, you have to raise the money.
	They have to raise families.
	They have to work.
	They have no help.
	The economy is super poor.
	So these women are victims.
	I'll explain the conditions to you to women.
	They had to go into factories sometimes for up to eight hours a day at work.
	Listen, no, And their husbands are at war.
	They're at home taking care of all the children, all the bills.
	The economy is super poor.
	The economy is super horrible.
	We're in the Great Depression, right?
	The Great Depression's in the 30s.
	So the Great Depression.
	Wasn't it in the 30s?
	Early 30s.
	The Great Depression.
	Yeah.
	Well, maybe that was happening.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Man, I know some history.
	What would be the distinction?
	What would be the distinction now between a single mom getting up and going to work?
	I don't get it.
	If the victim, they're victims because they had to look after their own children, which they would have to do anyway.
	And they had to work.
	No, they're victims of war.
	And guess what?
	Nobody's going to be able to do it.
	Because of the economy.
	Because men are not there.
	They're at war.
	Their husbands are dying.
	Their fathers are dying.
	Their uncles, brothers, sons are dying.
	That's emotionally traumatizing.
	I know during the World War II economy was not that great.
	I believe.
	Maybe I'm wrong.
	I don't know.
	Maybe I'm wrong.
	Maybe the economy was great, but I thought it wasn't from what I thought.
	I've got a couple questions here.
	So.
	I mean, those poor women, they had to go work.
	It's not about working.
	There's an emotional trauma.
	And women are way more than that.
	I know it's way more emotionally traumatizing to deal with the death rather than getting blown up yourself.
	I'm not saying like the men aren't victims.
	So let me let me ask you.
	Let me give, just throw out a couple statistics here.
	So 16 million Americans served in the United States Armed Forces during World War II.
	There were almost 300,000 were killed.
	670,000 were wounded, almost exclusively men.
	There were also 130,000 American prisoners of war, of whom 116,000 returned home after the war.
	Now, let's also make an assumption here.
	And maybe, Andrew, I don't know if you can help me search this.
	What percentage of the serving military men were married?
	Because typically they're drafting 18, 19, 20, 21-year-olds.
	I know people got married much younger than.
	I don't know if they have statistics on that.
	But not just husbands.
	Let's just, for the sake of argument, say that a majority of the men were not married, didn't have children, didn't have a significant other, didn't have a girlfriend.
	So the sort of second, I shouldn't, okay.
	In my view, the secondary victims would be who?
	Exactly.
	It's estimated.
	It's estimated.
	About 46% were married.
	46%.
	Okay, so a minority, but still a lot, right?
	Okay.
	But let's talk about then that majority of men who were single, who were not married.
	If we talk about them, we look at them.
	i assume they only had a mother and a father if they're the ones that go and die and they don't have a significant other to mourn for them wouldn't the hold on let me finish my point Grandma.
	Let me finish my point.
	Wouldn't you said, okay, you said mom, grandma, sister, brother might have uncle, you do realize that the suffering, the secondary suffering that you're alluding to that is experienced by family members is equally shared by the genders.
	The mother loses a son, the father loses a son.
	So assuming these majority of men.
	I think it's wrong to think that women aren't just as much as victims, but okay.
	Men are more victims.
	But hold on.
	So actually engage with the scenario I'm giving you here.
	Of the single men who had, let's assume they had a mom and a father who were living.
	And let's say they had no siblings.
	And it was just the mom and the father.
	And then that boy, man, whatever, went to war and he died.
	His mom is going to grieve.
	His father's going to grieve and mourn.
	In that scenario, who's the primary victim of war?
	I mean, definitely the guy, I guess.
	I mean, who's to say that the emotional impact and physical and financial impact doesn't reflect just as much in the family?
	Right, but okay, so hold on.
	I'm trying to look at this from a math perspective here.
	I just got to ask this real point.
	Who's the primary victim in an abortion?
	The mother or the fetus?
	Oh, man.
	Fetus?
	I'm not going to speak on this one.
	This is a poor question.
	Yeah, I'm just asking you.
	Who's the primary victim?
	The mother or the fetus?
	I don't know.
	An abortion?
	Yeah.
	Probably the baby.
	I mean, I don't know.
	Depends, I feel like.
	I feel like I'm definitely pro women's choice, so I'm not going to sit here.
	All right, let me, let me, we can come to that later.
	We can come to that later.
	So, okay.
	If there's one mother, if there's one father, and there's one male who dies, and if this is the majority of the men that were involved in World War II that lived in the United States.
	But, okay, okay, but just because they were single doesn't mean that they didn't have children or anything.
	If they weren't married, they probably didn't have children in this time period.
	I would say yes and no.
	You know, I agree with you.
	No, I agree with you because during that time, obviously.
	Let's assume, but does that mean they didn't have children?
	Wait, hold on.
	But the children, the gender of the children of these men who had children out of wedlock, 50% were boys and 50% were girls.
	Okay, like the children, the babies.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so what does that have to do with these children are now growing up with no father?
	I don't even understand.
	Out of wedlock, even worse.
	I don't even understand your argument here because the child could be a boy or a girl.
	The framework of the question is who's the primary victim of war, men or women?
	So if it's a boy child and if it's a female child and this is equally distributed, then this doesn't help your argument that it's both.
	It does.
	No, because it does, actually.
	Fine, I'll grant you.
	Let's say he had two children out of wedlock.
	He has one father, one mother, one boy, and one girl.
	That's still an extra man who's dead.
	Who is the primary victim of war?
	Everybody in the world.
	It's amazing.
	So I don't even know how to actually argue this.
	I'm just going to, if Andrew, if you, I'm going to defer to you because I can't even.
	I was just going to say, if the baby is the primary victim in an abortion, what is the deciding factor that makes the baby the primary victim and not the mother?
	Mother's health.
	How far along the fetus is.
	Yeah, I'm asking the gal here.
	She was the one who gave the answer that she thought that the baby was the primary victim.
	If that's the case, what is that deciding factor as to why the baby's the victim, the primary victim and not the mother?
	I mean, what do you think?
	I feel like I can't really answer this question because it's not really something I want to speak on for one.
	And two, I'm pro.
	Like, people just make their choices.
	Like, what I would do personally, I don't put onto what the next person could do.
	So what I feel like would be wrong, I'm not going to judge somebody else.
	So, you know what I'm saying?
	Like, that's not my.
	Yeah, and so I'm not going to answer the question for that reason.
	What I feel like my opinion is on the answer, I don't want to give it because it's a very political question.
	Okay, okay, okay.
	Well, let's try it a different way.
	You would agree that aborting at nine months would be that would be bad, right?
	You would at least agree that that's true.
	I mean, yeah?
	The baby's full grown, full term.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So if the mother had the abortion, then who would be the primary victim?
	I mean, why did the mother do it?
	Like, why?
	She didn't want it.
	If she just didn't want it, okay, then the baby.
	Because now you're just a bit selfish.
	So what would make, so what would make the baby the primary victim?
	I mean, you carried a baby full term to where it was.
	Yeah, would it be that?
	A baby couldn't live outside the womb at this point, so it doesn't even need to be in your, you know.
	So at that point, if you get an abortion, then sure.
	But I don't really want to speak on abortion because it's not my place, I don't think.
	Well, did you have something quick?
	Yeah, pretty specific.
	I think the point he was trying to get at is the baby's the primary victim because the baby's dying.
	And so he was going to turn that over to men in war dying and saying that if you use that logic for abortion, it can be applied to this scenario.
	It's like comparing apples aborted.
	It's like war to abortion.
	It's two different things.
	Where is a very, like...
	You can compare things that are very different.
	Yeah, there's never a comparison which is going to be exact.
	What we're trying to just do is just test the logic for perceived victimhood.
	So in this case, in war, I think I understand what you're saying.
	You're saying that there's a bunch of external factors which could make women also victims in war, which would include things like emotional damage, trauma, psychological, intergenerational trauma, which could happen because you lost grandpa when you were a kid, all these different factors which could possibly go into this.
	Okay.
	But if we're looking, even though we have all these correlates for different factors of victimhood, I would still say there's primary correlates.
	In this case, I would say the primary correlate is death.
	And so I would ask that even in an abortion, I would assume that this type of trauma and stuff like this at nine months would also exist for women.
	So why would the baby be the primary victim?
	That's the question.
	Yeah, I don't really want to speak on the abortion.
	Okay.
	She doesn't want to engage on that.
	That's fine.
	I will, just really quick, last thing here.
	Nick, you know that Ukraine split screen that we have?
	I'll have you pull that up.
	Nope, no, no, not yet.
	Not yet.
	Okay, it's okay.
	I should have been more clear.
	So, okay.
	You guys are all familiar with the Ukraine conflict, correct?
	Oh, actually, wait.
	Before I do that, ask her if a woman goes to war, who's the primary victim of war?
	If we switched it, let's...
	I already answered this question.
	Oh, did you?
	Yeah, with you.
	You said the same thing.
	You said if your husband got his leg blown off and you had to go and you got, what's the word, whatever to war, and you had a fight, would he be the victim too?
	I mean, I already stated that I think both are the victims.
	Okay.
	So there's a very recent conflict, the Ukraine-Russia conflict.
	So this one's an interesting one because it's much more recent.
	We're all familiar with it, I'm assuming.
	So Ukraine is kind of the perfect microcosm of the inconsistency inherent in feminism.
	Women are the equals of men until the bombs start to drop.
	Now, I'll ask you once more for everybody who said it's both.
	In the Ukraine conflict, who's the primary victim of war, men or women?
	Starting with you.
	I am not familiar enough on this situation or educated enough on this situation to speak on it.
	Like, just plain and simple.
	Well, but you were able to, for the previous question, you were able to.
	I don't know what's going on.
	I don't know what's going on.
	I think you are familiar that there is a war in Ukraine, correct?
	Okay, yes.
	So are you asking specific to that?
	Are you asking specific to that war?
	I don't know what's going on in that war.
	You said both.
	You said both.
	Does your answer change at all when it comes to Ukraine?
	Who is the primary victim at war with the Ukraine?
	Of the Ukraine war.
	Men are women?
	Aren't women fighting in that war?
	Aren't the citizens?
	There are some women.
	I guess whoever that is.
	Let's assume that 5% of the military is female.
	Go ahead and answer the question.
	Aren't the citizens fighting the war as well, not just the military?
	Aren't the citizens of Ukraine fighting the war, not just the military?
	Well, so then it would be both because they're both fighting.
	Somebody.
	I mean, I think both, regardless of if the woman is fighting or not.
	No, civilians aren't really fighting in the war, no.
	There are some incidences of that, but it's primarily the two military forces, and civilians are doing what they usually do in war and supporting the military operations via support roles.
	And I guess the primary victim would be whoever's the biggest, bigger statistic.
	Which I don't know.
	I mean, that's what he was proving.
	That's what he's trying to make his whole point this whole time.
	I mean, it's overwhelmingly men who are dying in the war for sure.
	But that's every war.
	It's overwhelmingly men who are dying in every war.
	It doesn't matter if it's activists.
	Who's starting all these wars?
	Probably men.
	Not the men that are fighting in it.
	Yeah, definitely not.
	You know, war is a men were talking about man's game.
	Well, I mean, war like affects everybody.
	I mean, it's going to hurt families.
	It's going to hurt children and everyone.
	So I feel like there's not really, you can't even compare two different types of pain because if someone's staying at home, they're still going to be hurt and affected by the people that are fighting in the war.
	Like if my, like, say, like, son gets drafted, I'm not, I'm going to feel the pain of that just as much as he might be feeling the physical pain.
	So I feel like, again, it's both because you can't really compare physical and mental pain.
	But that really wasn't the question.
	The question was, who is the primary person?
	You guys are not understanding that.
	We're saying both.
	You guys just aren't liking the answer.
	Exactly.
	You guys are simply just not liking the answer.
	You guys are not going to be able to do that.
	No, because we're saying why we feel like it's both.
	And we're saying it's not just a physical aspect.
	It's also an emotional aspect that, and not just that, but it's a lot of other things that, you know, women have to pick the pieces up on in war.
	And so that doesn't make that makes them less of a victim because they didn't die in it.
	Like, I don't agree with that.
	That's just my opinion.
	So I'll just kind of where I'm going here with the Ukraine conflict.
	I'll know, did you weigh in on this?
	Did you give a.
	I mean, yeah, I guess both.
	Still both?
	Okay.
	I'm going to say both.
	So let me, I'll just give you guys an additional information and see if it changes your mind at all.
	So at the breakout of the war, there was a decree by the Ukrainian government that required all military age men, in fact, even very old men.
	So all men between the ages of 18, I believe to either 60 or 65, had to remain in the country.
	They could not flee.
	They had to stay.
	Whereas women and children could leave.
	And in fact, a great many women, millions of women, flee Ukraine.
	They were not compelled to join the military or anything like that in the same way that men were.
	Knowing this additional information, this inequality, that the men had to stay, I think if they got caught, they could face punishment, they could go to jail, fines, etc.
	Knowing just this additional piece of information, does that change your answer at all?
	Sure, a little bit.
	I said, sure, a little bit.
	I think, yeah, I guess that would make them more of a victim, but that makes them a victim of their own country and, you know, politics and a victim of their own country.
	Yeah, because your country, of course, which is.
	And if the wartime policy, if the wartime policy is to allow every single woman in the country.
	You have to leave.
	You're being, I mean, then that's America does it too.
	So there's a draft, and you have to go if they say you got to go.
	I mean, you're, that sucks.
	Like, that is like that.
	Does it change your answer at all, knowing this extra piece of information?
	I mean, I kind of have the same feeling, like, men are more of the victim of physical pain because, like, even if it's vice versa, like, if the men would, if the men were staying at home.
	Wait, do you think war is strictly physical injury?
	Oh, no.
	Have you heard about this?
	No, it's strange.
	It's a shell shock.
	It's PTSD.
	I understand.
	Have you heard of shell shock?
	Yes, I understand that.
	Okay.
	So why do you keep going to this?
	Well, in the physical realm, men suffer more.
	Because if you go onto a war field versus stay at home, are you more likely to get bombed?
	Yeah.
	Like physical pain.
	Like if you walk out into the minefield and staying at home, like I guess where I'm confused here is you're saying, well, men on the physical realm are, they have it worse, but in the psychological men.
	Oh, no, that's terrible.
	No one can, like.
	But so I don't really understand.
	Because you say both.
	So it's if you say both, wouldn't you follow your argument up from, well, men on this hand have it worse, but women on this hand have it worse.
	But I failed to see on which hand women have it worse when it comes to war.
	I wouldn't say worse.
	It's just bad.
	It's war is bad.
	There's no good war.
	There's no way to do it.
	Let me ask you a question.
	If somebody stole $5 from you versus somebody stole your entire life savings, I don't know how much your life savings, maybe if it's $5, it doesn't matter.
	But which one would be worse?
	Definitely life savings.
	Okay.
	Because of the magnitude in which someone has deprived you of your belongings, in this case, your money.
	Yeah, are you comparing that to the men in war?
	Is that the statistical?
	Well, if a woman gets trips and falls and get a boo-boo, you know, versus a man gets a shell impaled through his body.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that blows.
	One's worse than the other.
	But like, his kids at home, like, it's just as bad.
	Like, his kid.
	I mean, it's not, no, no, no, it's not just as bad, I take it back.
	But the kids at home are still going to feel shit.
	The mom's going to feel shit.
	Yes, I don't disagree with you.
	So I guess arguably men would have it statistically worse, but it, okay, now I'm going to change my answer because men statistically would have it worse.
	But I guess my point is that the people at home are still going to feel that too.
	And then what about you?
	Yeah, I'd agree.
	I mean, it sounds like you're coming from a physical standpoint, so physically.
	No, I'm speaking in totality.
	Okay, yeah.
	I mean, arguably because they experience both mental pain and physical pain, I would say statistically, yeah.
	But I'm not taking away from those who are suffering back at home as well.
	No, everyone's a victim sucks for everyone.
	Nobody ever denied that the women aren't victims of war.
	Of course they are.
	They're primary.
	Women absolutely suffer, but thank you, Abigail.
	The original question was: who is the primary?
	That means there can be a secondary.
	I still think it's situational.
	I think it could be situational if, like, if the man got killed and then the son, like, let's say a woman had a son and then he went in a spiral and died too.
	I think that the mother would be the primary victim.
	If she has a son, wouldn't men still be the primary victim?
	That's a male.
	That's a double daughter, though.
	What if she's a daughter?
	What if she died?
	What if it's a daughter?
	She does the same thing.
	She spirals out, my dad died in war.
	I'm not, I hate life now.
	You're more than my dad.
	I love my dad.
	But wouldn't she then be a secondary?
	Wouldn't she be a secondary victim because her father was the primary primary victim, yeah?
	So I would like to say, so yes, you have a whole family that's losing their father as he goes off to war, but you have the father that's losing his whole family as he goes off to war.
	They're at home.
	He's at war.
	They have each other.
	He has himself.
	That's exactly why we're saying both.
	Anyways, there's one, Nick, can you pull up that photo of Ukraine?
	Then we'll move it on.
	When you said the whole statement about $5 versus life savings, were you comparing life savings to death?
	Is that what it was?
	I wasn't more of an analogy, I think.
	Yeah, analogy.
	I wasn't comparing.
	Obviously, death is worse than losing your life savings.
	Obviously.
	But what I'm asking is when you did that analogy, is it worse to lose $5 or is it worse to lose your life savings?
	$2,000, yeah.
	Whatever.
	Life savings is what you were saying.
	Were you saying life, were you trying to kind of compare losing, obviously not compare, but was your analogy with life savings, you know?
	Well, were you trying to say?
	I don't understand your question.
	I'm sorry.
	When you brought up that analogy, what was your point?
	What were you trying to prove?
	I was trying to, I guess, differentiate by degrees of harm, degrees of hurt.
	So, for example, if somebody stole $5 from me, I'd be upset for like 30 seconds.
	Okay.
	If I went and saw my bank, you know, looked at my bank statements and saw that all my money had been drained, the degree of like anxiety response I would have, the degree of, and assuming it's like unretrievable, like it's gone, I've lost my money, I am like distraught.
	There's legitimate concerns over can I afford rent?
	Can I do like that?
	Of course.
	So there's bigger ramifications.
	So life savings drained, what was the comparison to the, you know, men in women?
	I just explained it to you.
	No, I'm asking, what was the comparison?
	I don't understand.
	The men in the war were in the life savings movement.
	So he's giving a scalability, right?
	So like an order of operations to scalability.
	If I steal a penny from you, it's going to affect you less.
	And if I steal five bucks from you, it's going to affect you less.
	And if I steal a hundred, it's going to affect you less.
	And if I steal a thousand, et cetera, et cetera, right?
	So on a scale of, you know, how much you've been victimized, you would say if somebody stole five bucks from you, it would victimize you less than if they stole your entire life savings.
	So he's saying the ultimate thing here, though, is your life.
	At the end of the day, that is.
	So your life.
	So meaning that the man, the hypothetical man in war has passed away.
	Meaning the hypothetical man in war has passed away.
	Your life.
	Meaning the hypothetical man in war has passed away.
	Right.
	So in that situation, I think the other person is a bigger victim because the man has passed away.
	He's no longer experiencing mental trauma.
	The man has passed away.
	He experienced death, which obviously is horrible.
	But now the people at home, the woman carry on with that.
	So do you have to do that?
	And they have to go teach their children and their life.
	So that's why I'm saying this question is situational.
	So then by this logic, then you think it's better to be dead than be alive with trauma?
	Sometimes.
	Sometimes.
	Honestly, yeah.
	And are all of you traumatized?
	Are all of us traumatized?
	Like in general?
	So again, are you, haven't you experienced trauma?
	Isn't a psychological extent.
	And aren't you living with trauma?
	Then why aren't you unaliving?
	Because maybe it's not that deep.
	It's situational.
	Like, I don't know why you can't understand that.
	It's not a problem.
	Yeah, I agree.
	It's situational.
	But what I'm saying to you is that it's beyond obvious to me that people would much rather live with trauma than be dead.
	That seems obvious.
	I mean, a lot of people kill themselves.
	No, it's not because a lot of people kill themselves every year.
	So a lot of people pass away to live with trauma rather than unaliving.
	Actually, a lot of people pass away from self-inflicted injuries because of the trauma they've been through.
	A lot.
	A lot of people kill themselves as well.
	A lot of people.
	A lot more people live with trauma than unalive themselves.
	But a lot still on a living.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	But what statistic can you pull that out of and say, yeah, these people live with trauma?
	Like, you're just saying.
	So therefore, can you just say that?
	I'm just saying, okay, I'm just saying.
	Let's just see if it's not a problem.
	We could agree if it's obvious or not.
	So guys are looking at women.
	What percentage as a percentage do you think live with significant trauma?
	Over 20%?
	Yes.
	If it's over, do you think that women are committing, are unaliving themselves at a rate of 20%?
	I mean, I don't know the personality of it, but I know that every year it goes up.
	People want to kill themselves every year goes up.
	No, they're not.
	Which means people are dealing with a lot of trauma and they don't want to live with it.
	If you lost 20% of a population in a war, it would be the biggest bloodbath known to men.
	20% is astronomical.
	We're talking about astronomical numbers.
	There's no way it should be completely obvious to you that there's no fucking way 20% of women unalive themselves due to trauma.
	That's just insane.
	There's no way you're going to be able to do that.
	You're the one who once said that.
	You're the one who brought up.
	That's 20%.
	I always said that.
	I know that.
	We didn't know what you meant by being alive in America.
	And I know every year.
	You're not listening to the logic, right?
	You talk more than you listen, and yet I've been sitting here listening, not talking.
	So the thing is, is what I asked specifically was this question.
	Do you think that more women unalive themselves due to trauma or live with the trauma?
	And she's like, well, I don't know.
	Okay.
	Well, if that's the case, do you think that at least more than 20% of women experience significant trauma?
	Yes.
	Are they unaliving themselves?
	No.
	No, they're not.
	Well, you're not.
	No, you're not.
	No, because I don't feel like what you're saying is like real statistics.
	You're just throwing numbers out and saying, is that 20% of women who experience high 20% of women who experience high trauma, are they unaliving themselves?
	A lot of them might be.
	Can you tell me?
	Can you tell me?
	Because I can't tell you.
	Well, how many do you think are?
	So let's say you have, let's just do it easy.
	Let's just do it easy.
	If you have 30 women who are experiencing severe trauma, do you think 15 of them are going to unalive themselves?
	I think, no, not 15, but 3.
	Do you think 10?
	3 out of 30.
	Probably like 10.
	3 out of 30?
	Whatever you look up is going to be like too big of a statistic anyway.
	Like I don't really, I don't think it matters if it's like 5% or 20%.
	It's a lot.
	It's bad.
	Like it's too many.
	One is too many.
	An attempt is too many.
	So no matter, it doesn't even matter that it's like 20%.
	It's too much.
	Like I don't even think it's the point of the question is to make the determination as to whether people would rather, if it's obvious that people would rather live with trauma rather than not, it seems that that would be self-obvious to everybody in existence considering that most people, the overwhelming majority, the vast, vast majority of all of humanity does not unalive themselves, even though many, many, many of them experience massive trauma.
	They're not unaliving themselves.
	But lots of them are still suffering horribly.
	But do that, do they?
	Yeah, they could be suffering, but if they're making the choice not to unalive themselves, then it seems that they consider that to be the superior position.
	My bad.
	Right?
	It seems that they prefer to be alive.
	That seems to be a problem.
	Is he arguing your guys' statement that it's better to live with trauma than die?
	Or that it's worse to live with trauma than die?
	I think every person has trauma.
	I don't think every person has serious trauma.
	Now, what one person might consider serious.
	I think just because chooses to stay alive throughout their trauma doesn't mean people who are experiencing mass trauma, like very high levels of stress and trauma, and are very not well in their head, like mentally disturbed.
	How many of these people are unaliving themselves?
	Probably a decent probably a decent percentage of them.
	Yes, but I'm not saying 50%, but maybe 3, 4, 5 to 10% might be, and that's still okay.
	You know what?
	Let me just ask this in the most.
	So sure, yeah.
	No, no, no.
	Then your point is, yeah, you're correct.
	Would you rather live with trauma yet?
	Intuitively.
	Hang on.
	Let me just ask this in a way all of you would just intuitively kind of understand.
	Do you think if you went to most people, most people, men and women, and you asked them this question: if you push button A, you're going to have experience serious trauma.
	And if you push button B, you're going to die.
	Which button do you think they would push?
	Starting with you, go ahead.
	This is so sad.
	I feel like it depends on the person.
	Do you want to get shot or do you want to get raped?
	That's the question.
	That's not the question.
	Yeah, no, it actually is.
	Would you rather die or would you rather die?
	No, no, no.
	It actually is the question.
	It depends on the type of people.
	Which literally is the question.
	That's not my question.
	But that's trauma.
	Crazy trauma versus dying.
	What would you rather choose?
	That's not my question.
	Stop, stop.
	Here's the question again.
	Don't rephrase the question.
	Oh, it's like comparing apples.
	The question is: button A, you experience significant trauma.
	Button B, you die on the spot.
	But here, a lightning bolt shoots out of the sky and you die.
	Those are your two options.
	Do you think most people would choose button A or button B?
	I think people would choose B.
	The trauma, but I think would they regret that?
	They might.
	I think a high percentage might.
	Why do you think they would choose the trauma?
	Because after you have dealt with the trauma, now I'm living with this crazy wild shit when I could have just died.
	You might at that point decide it was screwed up.
	Why do you think they choose the trauma?
	Huh?
	Because they don't know.
	Unless they know what the trauma is.
	Like I said, if it's like, okay, what's the choice?
	Like, I die or I get raped.
	Like, situational.
	$200.
	Because the trauma could be.
	Why does it always seem to me they put the dumbest and retarded girls at the end of the table?
	So the trauma could be, you know, okay, you've dealt with, I don't know, like a little bit of whatever the fuck, like being made fun of in second grade, right?
	Like you'd probably prefer to live.
	More educated than most of the opposite.
	If the trauma is emotional trauma, I'd press the trauma button.
	If it's medical trauma, I'm pressing the death button.
	You raising your hands over here.
	You haven't spoken much.
	Go ahead.
	Well, it depends because, I mean, everyone, you know, everyone's trauma is valid.
	But, like, I mean, if I were to have these two buttons in front of my face, I don't know.
	I mean, I don't know what would happen after death, but I would choose trauma.
	What trauma do you experience if your husband dies at war?
	What medical MS?
	Yeah, what medical trauma are you experiencing?
	What are you talking about?
	It would all be psychological.
	Oh, all psychological.
	Okay, okay, yeah.
	Psychological.
	Yeah, it would all be psychological.
	So the thing is, is that when we're talking about trauma here in this context, severe psychological trauma, right?
	Would you rather, would you rather push, do you think most people would choose button A or button B?
	Do you think intuitively most people would push button A or button B?
	B is death.
	A is psychological trauma.
	A. A.
	They would definitely choose A. Nope, but not that much.
	Then that should give you some self-obvious, some self-apparent evidence that the death portion for most people is the non-preferable option.
	That's just basic logical demonstration.
	If intuitively you think almost everybody would choose the button to not die, then it seems self-obvious that people would rather be traumatized than dead.
	It seems obvious, right?
	So if you were like a little kid, right?
	Like back in like Nazi Germany or Jewish, and you had the option before Hitler came in.
	You had the option to get an idea.
	That is Godwin's law.
	Okay, let's use any analogy.
	No, So you could go through all this trauma, right?
	You could go get sent to extermination campaigns severely.
	No, no, no, we're not going to get into that.
	Use any answer.
	No, listen, listen.
	Listen.
	Use any analogy but that one.
	I have an analogy.
	You get a bunch of people.
	Listen, it's not because I don't mind the analogy.
	Listen, I don't mind the analogy.
	The terms of service for the platform we're on, they mind the analogy.
	Had you guys been mindful of the analogy?
	Had you guys been on time today, we would have been able to have gone through the entire pre-show and have given you the instructions about what to avoid.
	Go ahead.
	Here's an analogy: let's say you leave here tonight and you get in a terrible car accident and you wake up in the hospital and you've broken legs, you have severe damage, you know, medical to your body, and it's psychological.
	Are you going to say, I wish I would have died?
	Because that's not a problem.
	That's not extra, like, that's traumatic, but it's not like to the extreme of what somebody could deal with in trauma.
	So, like, going and getting in a car accident is trauma, guys.
	But that is a problem.
	Yeah, you lost a loved one in war.
	That's your trauma.
	Both your legs are amputated from this accident.
	But you're still grateful to be alive.
	So, here.
	So, here, let's just make it even simpler.
	Button A is you experience all of the trauma a person would experience losing a loved one in war, or button B, you die instantly.
	Which button do you think most people would push?
	Button A or button B?
	Depends on the person.
	It's situation at all.
	For most people, I'm just asking for most people, which button do you think most people would push?
	I just don't think Benabilly donated $200.
	Rate of major depression, matter of emotional trauma in U.S. femme is 26% per 100K.
	Rate of self-delete is 5% per 100K for femme.
	Most people rather live with severe adversity than death.
	NDSE now.
	Yeah, we're not.
	I'm not disappointed.
	Andrew, may I ask you why?
	Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
	May I ask you why final wave feminism donated $200, 10 plus years interviewing thousands of women to reach the same conclusion as the most intelligent, respected theologians, philosophers, etc.
	Women are children.
	They require top-down guidance.
	Okay.
	May I ask a question?
	I just think you final wave feminism.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I'd like to hear your question.
	Why is it so black and white to you?
	Why can't you understand that there's layers to things and that people are different and it's it can't just be one or the other?
	Like every single person is different.
	One person may be okay with living with I agree.
	Okay, so then why are you trying to argue that with the people?
	So I'm going to explain.
	So I can grant this to you and say every single human being is different with different preferences.
	Everything from whether or not they like pineapple on pizza or pepperoni, right?
	All the way down to the little micro-nuances.
	However, there seems to be shared intuitions that most people have that you would agree that we have, right?
	So here's a good example of a shared intuition.
	Taking people shit that they don't want you to take, they don't like that.
	That seems to be a shared intuition all over the world.
	For instance, is there anybody at this table who prefers that people take their stuff away from them?
	Anybody?
	Show of hands.
	A single person who prefers no, not a single one.
	Seems like that's a shared intuition, even though all of you have totally different preferences about all sorts of things.
	So if there's that shared intuition, why shouldn't I think that there could be other shared intuitions like trauma, people wanting to live with trauma rather than death, which could be self-obvious just based on the fact that you think most people would push button A or button B.
	That seems like now we're getting into, well, we share some sort of intuition here, right?
	I hear what you're saying.
	I really do.
	But I just.
	Well, I'm glad that you hear it.
	I'm actually looking for a counter-argument.
	If you let me spoke, if you let me speak.
	Go ahead.
	If you let me speak, I could give you that.
	I hear what you're saying.
	I just hear what you're saying.
	Yes, there's shared intuitions.
	Obviously, people don't want their shit taken, right?
	But not everybody is the same.
	Yeah, but we've already established that.
	So then what are you trying to say?
	Dude, can we establish right now that nobody in the room within the world?
	But that's so much different than somebody saying that they'd rather live with trauma.
	Today's Father's Day.
	My sister has cancer.
	I had brain surgery.
	My brother is disabled.
	My mother is sick.
	I work three jobs.
	All of your please carry your cross.
	Amen.
	Thank you for the 200.
	But yeah, so back to this, just real quick.
	You agree that everybody in this room is totally different from each other right down to their preferences.
	Even the way that you just took a drink of that drink that you have, water or whatever it is, is going to be different than how the gal next to you drinks that cup of water.
	You're going to agree.
	It's totally layered and nuanced all the way down.
	But that doesn't mean that we don't share some intuitions which make us human beings.
	And a seeming intuition I can point to right now is you don't want your stuff taken from you.
	That is human.
	Everyone in that room agree.
	Now, hang on, wouldn't you agree that almost nobody in the whole world wants you to take their stuff away from them?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Then that's a shared intuition.
	It is a shared intuition.
	Along with this analogy of a shared intuition that people would rather be alive with trauma than dead.
	That seems like a shared intuition.
	Well, you're saying it seems like, and you're asking for facts from us, but you're not giving us, you're not giving us a test.
	I'm just asking you what it seems like.
	I'm not even asking you for a fact.
	I'm just asking you, what does your intuition say most people would do in this situation?
	Push button A personally button B.
	I think it depends.
	I think it's situational, and I think it depends on the person.
	Okay, but if but if what would you say to this then?
	Button A, your shit is taken away from you.
	Button B, your stuff is not taken away from you.
	I would prefer my shit to not be taken away from me.
	You're right.
	So intuitively, everything which you have observed around you your entire life informs you intuitively that that's what they would push.
	But you didn't need any data.
	You needed no data.
	You needed no doubt.
	Hang on, stop, stop.
	I'm almost done.
	Almost done.
	I'm going to let you counter.
	I promise I'm going to let you counter.
	Hang on.
	You didn't need a single shred of data to come to that intuitively.
	You didn't need it.
	Right?
	That I said I would prefer my shit not to be taken?
	No, no, no.
	You think that you would prefer, you think everybody would push the button for the most part that they didn't want their stuff taken, right?
	I think so.
	Yeah, I think most people don't want their shit taken.
	Right.
	So you can arrive to these intuitive conclusions absent any data at all, just based on observation.
	Yeah.
	But my intuitive conclusion is that.
	That would be an obvious observation.
	He can't hear you.
	But my intuitive conclusion about your question whether people would rather live with trauma or, you know, die, I'm saying I don't know.
	On that one, I'm saying I don't know.
	You asked me my intuitive conclusion about if I'd want my shit taken or not.
	I'm saying personally I'd rather not have my shit taken.
	Wait, can you just?
	Yeah, so I can agree with you that you may not know the answer precisely.
	You might say, well, I'm not sure this or that.
	But then when I kind of counter with, then why aren't people who experience severe trauma unaliving themselves at this kind of massive rate, you would think that if the preference was the other direction, that they would be doing that and they're not.
	So it seems intuitive, right?
	I get what you're saying, but I'm also not saying that the suffering is equal.
	All right.
	I'm not saying it is either.
	That's my point.
	I feel like for certain people, the suffering is equal to death.
	And so that's why I'm saying it's situation.
	I agree for certain people.
	It depends on the person.
	It depends on what you're doing.
	And for certain people, I'm sure that's true.
	Exactly.
	So it's just, it's not that.
	That has nothing to do with the argument, though.
	It's not black and white.
	You're asking me about my shit being taken or it not being taken.
	I'm saying I'd rather not have my shit taken.
	I feel like most people would rather not have taken it.
	No, you're not.
	You're saying that most people, you think most people prefer not to have a title?
	I literally just said that.
	I think most people would rather not have their shit taken.
	But for this other argument, I'm saying I don't know.
	All right, you guys are kind of going in circles.
	Okay, so I just want to make sure I got this right.
	You cannot come to an intuitive conclusion that you think most people would prefer death over trauma.
	I just want to make sure we got that on record.
	It depends.
	It depends on the person.
	I said most people.
	It depends on the person.
	Okay, so you're not sure.
	I'm not going to give you the answer that you want.
	It depends on the person.
	That most people wouldn't choose death.
	It depends on the person.
	And I know she's not going to take care of it.
	I'm not going to give you the answer that you want, Andrew.
	Because it's most.
	It's most, right?
	I'm really not.
	It depends.
	What you're saying is that you're not going to be able to say that.
	Andrew, I'm not.
	Listen to me.
	I'm not going to give you the answer that you want.
	It depends on the person.
	You can just sit there and be quiet while I explain it.
	That's fine too.
	Okay, great.
	So the thing is, the thing is, is that here's your logical extension so that you understand it while you look away.
	But you're still going to hear me because you have to, right?
	You need to understand this.
	The logical extension of you saying, it depends on the person when I ask you, what do you think most people would do?
	You say, I don't know.
	That's what you're saying.
	I don't know.
	Which means the logical entailment of that is you don't know if most people would choose death or trauma.
	That's the extension.
	Yeah, and it literally roots back to all of us saying both men and women.
	I got to move it on, Andrew.
	I got to move it on.
	Do you want to make a final point?
	No, no, I think I made the final point already.
	Okay.
	So last thing on that thing.
	I have some more questions here.
	We're going to go around the panel.
	I did actually really quickly, I'll just show you the Ukraine thing, then we'll move on from the war thing.
	Nick, if you could pull it up.
	So on the left here, you have Ukrainian women who are screenshotted on dating apps when they were able to flee to Stockholm and the United Kingdom and Barcelona and Lisbon.
	Where's the nice place in Portugal?
	Where's is that Lisbon?
	Is in Portugal or Spain?
	Lisbon.
	Is that Portugal?
	Anyways, women, Ukrainian women were found on Tinder trying to go to the club, trying to, you know, get their hot girl summer on, whatever.
	That's what you have on the left.
	Ukrainian women on dating apps and Tinder trying to get dicked down by foreign men.
	On the right, well, we can't show it, but on the right, you have dead Ukrainian men and soldiers.
	I'll ask the question one more time.
	If that picture is a manifestation of not just the Ukrainian conflict, the Ukraine conflict, but all wars throughout history, perhaps excluding the Tinder.
	Do any of you who said both change your mind?
	Seeing that image?
	I mean, how about the women that are like actually suffering, not the women that you just put in?
	So then stop talking about just women who are on Tinder.
	We brought up that.
	There are women who are suffering and then there's women who are on Tinder.
	Like what?
	I think the point is the women are alive and still living their lives.
	But not every woman who is alive and dealing with the suffering due to their husband or their father going off.
	Here, let me know.
	And also with the Ukrainian woman.
	I'll just engage with you on this.
	Okay.
	I'll just engage with you.
	Hold on.
	Do you think they're going to be able to do that?
	I'll just engage with you.
	I'll engage with you on this.
	Okay.
	So, yes, not every single woman is on Tinder.
	But if you're a Ukrainian men, there's zero Ukrainian men that are on Tinder in Stockholm, in Oslo.
	You don't think there's any Ukrainian men in Tinder in any of those places?
	Honestly.
	And think about the older men too that aren't fighting the land.
	Are you trying to argue that there's just as many men?
	Did I say that?
	Do you recall when I said no, men could not leave the country?
	Not any men.
	So it's actually plausible.
	Yes.
	No.
	From the age of 18 to 60 or 65.
	Men could legally not leave the country.
	If you did, you would be imprisoned.
	You'd be punished.
	They beat a lot of the men who did try to flee.
	If you see videos of these men trying to cross the border, the Ukrainian military police will apprehend these men and often beat them.
	So no, they're not.
	So it actually would be fair for me to say that there's a good probability, at least, you know, I don't know how things have changed.
	I still think men can't even leave the country.
	This is now, we're, what, two, three years into this conflict.
	I think it actually would be fair of me to say that there are no men in Stockholm, no Ukrainian men in Stockholm, just partying it up, swiping on girls, fucking hot Swedish chicks.
	I mean, too long.
	Hold on, hold on.
	The statistic.
	Yeah, that statistic.
	I don't need a statistic.
	But let me answer.
	I'm sure there was that you can, hold on.
	Do you doubt my assertion that men between the ages of 18 to 60 were precluded, were not allowed to leave the country?
	I could pull up a CNN.
	I could pull up BBC.
	Tell me the news organization which you respect, and I'll gladly pull it up.
	I honestly do not know what this has to do with Tinder.
	All I'm saying is that I'm sure there's men who are on Tinder in Ukraine.
	No.
	Listen, listen.
	I think there's Ukrainian men on Tinder, but they probably weren't in the country when the war happened.
	They probably are maybe half citizens of other countries.
	Maybe they already fled the country.
	Maybe they weren't there.
	So there might be.
	But so the statistic that was there, sure, they are the primary victims, if that's what you want to know.
	That's not the argument I'm trying to make at all.
	But do you think you think that the Ukrainian men don't feel like they're women that are fighting this war in Ukraine?
	You don't think that they feel like their women, their daughters, and their grandmothers are not suffering?
	You don't feel like that?
	They don't feel like that because that's not the argument I'm making.
	Could you tell us the argument you're trying to make?
	But like, we're just saying.
	Do you guys know the definition of primary?
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Daughters are suffering.
	Women are suffering.
	Ukrainian women are suffering.
	I just agreed with you.
	What is the argument you were trying to make?
	Just tell us.
	I literally repeated it multiple times.
	Please say it again.
	Yeah, please say it again.
	Men are the primary victims.
	Men are the primary victims of war, and I've provided several examples.
	So what does this have to do with these specific men being on Tinder?
	Like, genuinely.
	What?
	It's the women who are on Twitter.
	I think she's just saying.
	It's Ukrainian women.
	It's to illustrate.
	But they're not victims because they're on Tinder.
	It's to illustrate the people who are not.
	Even though their fathers might have died.
	Even though they might be on Tinder, they are crazy.
	They are not the primary victims because they have the privilege to be on Tinder and not in war.
	I'm just saying, why did you move on?
	No, like genuinely, like, why did you get pictures of random pictures of girls on Tinder and compare them to dead bodies?
	Literally, that has me confused.
	That is the most ridiculous comparison I've ever heard in my life.
	Because you could use like a country they're not affected.
	It's a perfect illustration.
	Well, because they're on Tinder.
	Because they're on Tinder.
	I guess that means everything's good, right?
	Please note.
	Why don't you just steel man my position instead of strawmanning my position?
	What does that mean?
	This is crazy.
	Steelman your position?
	Well, I'm just saying, like, I'm confused by the picture because it was like not.
	Yeah, I'm honestly not complaining.
	When somebody says, like, steelman my position, it just means, can you repeat my argument back to me?
	That way I know you understand it.
	That's all it means.
	Are men the primary victim of war?
	Statistically, in this case, yes, it's Ukraine.
	I mean, men have to be drafted statistically, yes.
	I'm just asking why you are comparing random pictures of girls on Tinder to dead bodies.
	Okay, are you aware that there's currently a massive military conflict in Ukraine?
	I'm aware of that.
	Okay, and are you aware that I've already stated this, men between the ages of 18 to 60 or 65 were barred from fleeing the country, and a lot of those men were drafted into the war and they're dead now.
	Whereas if a woman was so inclined, she could freely leave, she could cross the border, and then she could end up in Stockholm, Oslo, Lisbon, whatever fuck you're doing.
	But what about the women who didn't?
	Like, that's what I'm wondering.
	Why you're not comparing them?
	Like, don't like act like I'm like stupid.
	Like, I'm just curious.
	Let me ask you a question.
	If I told you that, like, zero men between that, those age range, between that age range of 18 to 60 or 65, left the country, and millions of Ukrainian women in that age range left the country.
	What's your argument to that?
	No, I'm just asking about that.
	What were you asking?
	You keep jumping around my question.
	I'm asking around your question.
	Why?
	Why?
	I've tried to explain it multiple times, but go ahead.
	Why did you put pictures of like girls in provocative poses next to pictures of dead women?
	Because their Tinder profiles.
	Why did you hunt down Tinder profiles?
	Like, that's that.
	You can't even compare them.
	Hold on.
	Absolutely.
	I'm just like, why would you hunt down girls with pictures of people?
	I didn't.
	First off, somebody sent me that.
	We didn't make the collage.
	It's so weird.
	Why is it weird?
	Because you're comparing men who died in war to pictures of girls grabbing their asses on a Tinder profile.
	That's your point.
	That's an example.
	Make an argument.
	Make an argument.
	I'm aware of that, but not.
	I'm not.
	You're asking me.
	You're asking me why I did it.
	You are asking me why you're watching women as victims of war.
	Hold on.
	Make an argument instead of why, why would you do that?
	Just make the argument instead.
	I'm just confused on why you're attacking me for asking a question.
	Huh?
	Why are you getting mad at me asking a question?
	Because you're not being rational.
	You're not being logical.
	No, I'm just saying.
	You could get pictures of women in Ukraine.
	You could literally get them at their house and whoever we have access to photos.
	The reason, to answer your question, hold on, I was talking.
	The reason that he showed that picture is because it illustrates.
	It illustrates that women have the freedom to be able to be on Tinder.
	They can't get pictures of them in their houses.
	That's the pictures that they have access to.
	But it illustrates that women are they have the freedom.
	Brian, do you have any numbers on human trafficking in blank?
	This is not to take away from men's suffering, which we do not have accurate numbers.
	Charlie, I don't have numbers on that.
	Don't know.
	Yeah, but no big deal, right?
	Because what about all the trauma that the men who are in their family?
	I feel like it's experienced by those women being trafficked.
	I feel like it's very sick.
	They're just as much your primary victim as the women.
	I feel like it's very sad, especially to Ukrainians at this moment, to compare who's the bigger victim men or women.
	And I feel like it's very sad to say women are second dairy victims, second victims, under men, victims of war in any situation.
	And I just think that's sad.
	And that's just me.
	I think as a woman, that's how I feel.
	Now, as men, y'all might feel differently.
	And y'all have been suppressing.
	I think it's absolutely despicable that you guys, you know, here's the epic female empathy that you guys are unable to acknowledge a singular realm in which men suffer more than women.
	I bet every single one of you.
	Hold on.
	I bet every single one of you would say that in this in this specific category, women suffer more.
	Let me ask you a question.
	When it comes to SA, who suffers more, men or women?
	Statistically, women.
	So why is it still suffering?
	I'm not saying men don't suffer, bro.
	But the question is, more.
	But why is it like poor men?
	Yes, do men get essayed?
	Do men get essayed?
	More men are in war.
	Men run it.
	More men are in war.
	More women get sexually assaulted.
	So who's the primary victim of essay?
	Women.
	But so why can't you just grant in the middle of the world?
	That men are the primary victims of Ukrainian war?
	Yeah.
	I never said that men were absolutely warm.
	You guys literally all said.
	I mean, I did.
	You all said both.
	It's both men and women.
	It's different kinds of trauma.
	I think war is a different subject than sexuals.
	And everybody's like making faces and stuff, but I'm just saying.
	There's like different types of things.
	What does that mean?
	I can't.
	I mean, I can't reason with it.
	I got to move it on.
	I got to move it on.
	I mean, you got a valid point.
	I'm going to read a couple chats here.
	Oh, great.
	Okay.
	Kill of cereal.
	Is it worse to abort the child or to abandon it on a stranger's doorstep?
	Child is alive, but the gamble on the future life of the child would be of concern.
	Is living through hell worse than death?
	Hey, kill of cereal.
	Thank you, man.
	I think we did kind of talk about that a little bit already.
	Yeah, we already asked it.
	Is it worse to abort the child or to abandon it on the stranger's doorstep?
	Anyone want to answer that?
	Women can't take accountability.
	I'm like, they can't.
	All right.
	Maddie Ice, people have family members that die every single day.
	They aren't out here offing themselves.
	Really good point, Maddie Ice.
	Yeah, people go through traumatic things every single day.
	Death is something that we're all going to experience, whether it's a family member or our own, you know, our own thing eventually, either through illness, old age, et cetera, et cetera.
	So thank you, man.
	We have stochastic decay.
	Who's the primary victim of grape?
	The woman being essayed or the support system that has to pick up the pieces?
	I think it's both.
	Probably.
	somebody's in the bathroom right now can you sit down while the person's in the bathroom Okay.
	Stochastic Decay, who's the primary victim of grape?
	The woman being essayed or the support system that has to pick up the pieces.
	I think this is a rhetorical question.
	I think it's both, probably situational.
	This panel is retardant.
	Okay, thank you, man.
	Charlie Tanner, Brian, do you have any numbers on human trafficking and essay?
	This is non-set.
	Oh, that one already came through.
	All right.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	We're going to read a couple more chats here.
	All right.
	We have Joe MC.
	Okay.
	Joe MC, dude, when I was in Iraq as a marine two of my friends.
	Two of my friends got cheated on talk about ultra trauma.
	He probably checked.
	Okay.
	Yo, ABC, thank you for the gifted 50 memberships, dude.
	You're a fucking legend.
	Thank you, man.
	What is everyone's favorite brand of alcohol?
	All right, like question.
	Go ahead.
	Di Serono.
	Huh?
	DiSerono.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Vouve champagne.
	I see it there.
	I can't drink.
	I'd love to have Vou champagne as well.
	Yeah, you can't drink.
	I don't drink.
	They can't drink, but they probably drink.
	I don't drink at all.
	All right.
	This one came through.
	We have Robert Tanner.
	Brian, you are wrong on war casualties.
	Read Anthony Beaver, The Fall of Berlin, 1945.
	The amount of suffering on the Eastern Front is a terrible suffering during World War II.
	Well, yes, there were female civilians.
	There were a few women military casualties.
	But the overwhelming amount of casualties were men, at least in the military component.
	And then I believe the civilian component, you know, it's pretty comparable between men and women.
	So, yeah, more men in total died during World War II than women.
	And more men were injured in casualties of war than women.
	Why does the government send men out to war and not women?
	I'm sorry, what?
	I think we got a problem with the government.
	Okay, never mind.
	You can move on.
	Brian and Andrew, you proved tonight that the majority of women lack any type of logic.
	Okay, Brian LeComte.
	Appreciate it, brother.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you, thank you.
	Oh, hold on.
	And then we have this one.
	And then, Nick, if you could get those yellows when Brian, men from Ukraine have fled and are partying.
	You are wrong, thinking all stayed and that Ukraine men aren't partying or on Tinder.
	All the oligarch kids fled.
	Everyone loses in war.
	Well, okay, if I can grant you that, yes, some men were probably able to cross the border, some men were able to get out.
	That doesn't change the fact that all men were barred legally from, like, for example, I think my understanding of United States law when it comes to the border is technically illegal to cross into the United States.
	Does that mean it doesn't happen?
	For example, doing being in possession of certain drugs is a crime.
	Do people still do it?
	Yes.
	So the reality is, while some men were able to escape, the vast majority haven't.
	And if they did escape, they had to go through much more extreme means of attempting to escape as compared to women who could literally cross the border without any harassment or any sort of potential reprisals.
	They're free to leave.
	Whereas a guy, if you get caught trying to leave, you're fucked.
	Major fucked.
	So they're, yes, some men were able to flee, of course.
	Most weren't, though.
	And then ABCH, thank you for the gifted 50 memberships, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Nick, if you can hide all those that we went through.
	Okay, next topic.
	This is.
	Can you be sexist towards men?
	Go ahead.
	Like me personally?
	Or?
	No, just in general.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Like, can women be sexist towards men?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yes, of course.
	Okay.
	Can you be racist towards white people?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I guess so.
	No, yes.
	I feel like, I don't know, what's like the definition of racism?
	It's like making somebody feel like less than you or something.
	Or you have to be based off their race.
	Yeah, but it's more, it's like a deep, isn't there like a deeper?
	I don't know.
	I can't really even speak because isn't there like a thing, like systematic?
	I don't know.
	No, you tell us.
	Remember, you're way more educated than we are.
	No, I don't know.
	She never said that.
	Right.
	I did say that.
	No, I didn't.
	No, she didn't.
	I'm sure you know what racist means.
	Yeah, I mean, isn't it like a thing?
	I don't know.
	Isn't it like a thing where you're discriminating against?
	I'd have to look at the definition out of my phone.
	I'll ask some clarifying questions.
	I don't want to.
	So, can you be racist towards black people?
	Yes.
	Can you be racist towards Asians?
	Sure.
	Can you be racist towards Latinos?
	Yeah, but I'm white.
	So, I mean, isn't it a racial race?
	No, I'm not saying you.
	I'm not saying you.
	I'm saying in general, can people be racist towards black people?
	I mean, they're minorities, so isn't that like.
	I don't know.
	It's just a yes or no question.
	Yeah, like, I don't know.
	Okay.
	That's my answer.
	Can black.
	Here, let me ask you: can black people be racist towards white people?
	No, I don't think so.
	Can Asian people be racist towards white people?
	I mean, I don't think so.
	Can Latinos be racist towards white people?
	I don't think so.
	Can any other race besides white be racist towards white people?
	I mean, it's just I feel like the to my friends that are, you know, not white, they've explained this to me before, and I'm not the best one to explain it, so I'm not going to.
	So, yeah.
	That's fair.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	I wanted to come back to you.
	Was that your genuine answer?
	Or are you just kind of saying yes just to no that was my genuine answer?
	Okay, so you can't be racist towards white people then.
	Yeah, I'm also half white, so okay All right, that's kind of my rapid fire questions.
	Then we'll get into oh a couple things Just going around the table.
	Do you consider yourself a feminist related to dating, you know?
	No.
	No?
	Not a feminist?
	You'll have to come back to me.
	I'd say yes.
	No.
	Sort of.
	Absolutely not.
	No.
	Okay, I'll wait till she's back at the table and to ask her the question.
	She's coming.
	There she is.
	She's coming.
	She's making her way.
	She's taking her sweet fucking time.
	Are you a feminist?
	I want to say like an extreme feminist, but yeah, I guess I'm a feminist.
	You do consider yourself a feminist?
	Okay.
	All right, good to know.
	Good to know.
	So those of you who said yes, you're feminist.
	Oh, you didn't answer.
	Go ahead.
	I think I'd word it like her.
	Like not an extreme one, but definitely a feminist.
	Okay, so you do you believe in the patriarchy?
	Hell yeah.
	Hell yeah, you believe in the patriarchy, okay?
	I've seen good patriarchies, and then I've seen like some that are.
	Just answer the question, please.
	Sure, yes.
	Yeah.
	Like the patriarchy theory.
	I don't know much about the patriarchy theory.
	But you've heard the term patriarchy, right?
	Are you opposed to the patriarchy?
	Actually, I don't know.
	Define patriarchy.
	Well, you're the feminist.
	I'm sorry to cut in, but I don't actually understand.
	Now, I don't know your name.
	The gal in who's sitting from my perspective would be to the right side of the table, second one over, who has been kind of verbally sparring with everyone tonight.
	What did you say your name was?
	That's you.
	Yeah.
	Oh, Paloma.
	Paloma.
	Okay.
	I don't understand why when Brian said just please answer the question, he went like, look at this shit.
	Look at the, look, what the, what's going on here, right?
	What the fuck?
	I don't actually understand that.
	Think of it from his perspective.
	He's going around the table and he wants to get everybody's actual answer.
	If somebody goes on a diatribe right then, how could he get everybody included in the conversation?
	I really don't care about answering your stupid questions anymore, both of you guys, so I'm actually going to go.
	But you guys have a great night.
	Do you want to at least, let me ask you just a few more questions if you don't mind.
	I mind.
	What are the questions?
	So it's a rage quit?
	Hold on.
	I don't care, rage quit.
	It's okay.
	Let me ask her a couple questions.
	It's not a rage quit.
	It's a rage quit.
	Okay, whatever you want to worry about.
	What did I say that was so offensive to you?
	It's nothing you said.
	I just really don't have the energy to keep going back and forth with you because you want a specific answer and I'm not going to give it.
	And you're going to keep prying and prying until you get that answer.
	And I'm going to ask you to get away from the past.
	So are you just intellectually dishonest?
	I just don't feel like arguing with you anymore.
	Like plain and simple.
	You're not somebody I'm obligated to argue with.
	No, I agree.
	You're not.
	If you want to rage, quit.
	It's totally up to you.
	Rage, quit, whatever you want to word it.
	I don't really give a fuck.
	I'm leaving.
	So I'll ask you the question.
	I'll ask you the question.
	So you do believe in the patriarchy, correct?
	I believe.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, do you think that women are oppressed?
	Yes.
	In the United States?
	Yes.
	And who are men the oppressors?
	Yes.
	There you go.
	So, while I'm asking you some more questions, so I'm going to leave.
	Okay, that is a rage quit.
	okay.
	Peace out.
	Peace out.
	You too, homie.
	Do you want to start?
	Wait, I don't know how many purses, actually.
	I'm just in here anywhere.
	I have school 645 here.
	I'm no sleeve.
	Oh, what's going on?
	What's going on over there?
	I think she's just looking for a purse.
	It's got it.
	Yeah, so just very briefly, to go over the question.
	The reason that this is being asked is we've heard this a lot on the show between men and women dynamics.
	Obviously, there's many men who prefer not to end up in relationships with feminists, right?
	They just prefer not to.
	And so this is why it's being asked if you consider yourself to be a feminist, and that's how it's tied back into kind of the dating talk so that we can figure out where your stance is.
	Makes a lot of sense to me, as politics in the United States is highly polarizing, right?
	So this is why it's asked and why it is.
	He just wants to get everybody's answer on record before we start to kind of press in where your feminist beliefs come from, why you think that way, and how that applies to when you're dating.
	So going around the table, let me give a different definition of feminism and see if the answers change.
	I think that the most charitable definition of feminism I can give is a rejection of patriarchal systems in lieu of egalitarianism, meaning equality between the two sexes.
	By that definition, would you guys consider yourself feminist going around the table?
	hmm we'll start we'll start with you um gal with the red bangs Sorry, I was here late, so I don't know anybody's names.
	So if I just call you out by your clothing, please don't get mad at me, right?
	That's it.
	That's basically the only thing I can do.
	So starting with you.
	No, you're good.
	Can you repeat that one more time?
	I've been up for like 24 hours and my brain is just yeah, I've been there.
	I've been there.
	Yeah, so if the definition of feminism was a rejection of patriarchal systems for the movement of equality between the two sexes, men and women, would you consider yourself a feminist then?
	Should men and women be again?
	Nope, that's not actually what's being asked.
	So if the definition of feminism is the movement towards the equality of the two sexes, men and women, and a rejection of patriarchal systems, meaning men in charge of shit, would you call yourself a feminist then?
	No.
	No?
	Okay.
	It depends.
	For me, it really depends on what type of men I've seen, because obviously every man's different.
	Every patriarchal system that I've encountered in life, some men run it good, real good, and they're cool and everything.
	So I would be down with a cool man running stuff, but I've had seen some weird dudes running stuff too.
	And then I literally am like, oh my gosh, thank God that I have my own rights because going under this guy would be like 11 hell.
	Like, you know, like, so if it's a good dude, then I'm cool with it.
	But if it's a dude that I don't like that's a really weird dude, then no.
	So I could flip.
	It just depends on if I'm comfortable with that.
	So to kind of engage with what you're saying, we'll say systems where men are in charge and have traditionally been in charge, they are going to stay in charge if you're under a patriarchy.
	Yes.
	But if question, would this be related to that?
	So if it was a patriarchy society where like women, like they're like, oh, women can't work.
	It's like, does that keep vulnerable populations vulnerable in a sense where like, what if like the woman can't find a husband?
	I mean, we can kind of get into that.
	But just to get it on record, if that was the definition of feminism, charitable definition, would you then call yourself a feminist?
	If a good man running shit and following him or a bad man running shit and following him?
	Just a rejection of patriarchal systems for the movement of egalitarianism, meaning both are running things equally.
	I mean, I guess I could reject it, but if I see a good one, then I'll go for it.
	You know, I'd be like, okay, cool.
	I just have to know if the dude's good or not.
	Okay.
	So going to the next person at the table.
	Oh, sorry.
	So by the first definition, so you're saying a rejection of patriarchal systems and a movement towards equality between the sexes.
	I mean, I think they should be the same, so, no, I mean, equal.
	Yeah, so then feminists, right?
	Yeah, by that definition.
	Okay, so moving to the next book.
	I guess in that definition, sure.
	Yeah, they would be a feminist then.
	Okay, and then moving to the next one.
	Probably not.
	No.
	So you wouldn't want to see a rejection of patriarchal systems for movement towards equality between the sexes?
	Absolutely not.
	Okay, next.
	Still, no, not a feminist.
	These women hate women.
	I don't hear that.
	Okay, yeah.
	I didn't hear the redhead, though.
	I said absolutely not.
	And it's not because I hate women.
	It's because women, we're, you know, we should.
	We have a role to fill.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we have a certain role.
	And it's not to be in charge.
	It's not to be equal, and it's not to be, you know, independent, technically.
	And as, you know, as a Christian.
	You're religious.
	You all are very religious, so it makes sense why you feel like that.
	Okay, well, I understand money is your God, but my God is.
	I don't have a God.
	I have a Creator.
	That's Romans 1.
	What?
	Hey, you should read Romans 1 18, God's Wrath Against Unrighteousness, talking about people worshiping the creature rather than the Creator.
	Anyways.
	I worship the Creator.
	You don't know me.
	You don't know what I worship.
	What's your Creator's name?
	I mean, I don't believe the Creator has a name, God, I guess.
	It's a force that we can't comprehend.
	You guys don't want to get into what I believe.
	Yes, you will edit it.
	No, I really, I really.
	Because I believe in the Bible, but I also believe in all them other books that were outside the Bible, like the book of Enoch and all that stuff I think puts into perspective, and those are all forbidden books.
	So I'm not going to get it.
	Well, the Book of Enoch's not a forbidden book.
	It's the apocryphal book.
	It just was not, it wasn't put into, it wasn't put into the canon for a reason.
	But I mean, all the book of Enoch is, is basically an extrapolation from, you know, what happened during the flood.
	It gets into fallen angels, all that type of stuff.
	So then what my God is and what her God is is going to be two different gods.
	Yeah, Jesus.
	Well, do you have a reason why you think that that should be canonical?
	I don't understand that, though.
	No, I mean, wait, explain what that means.
	Well, people put the Bible together and left that book out.
	Do you know why they did that?
	Why did they do that?
	I think they did it because they don't want us to know the truth.
	They did it for power.
	They did it for control.
	I think that's what religion was really made for.
	I think the word.
	I mean, this was a very public debate.
	It was very public.
	Yeah, this debate is crazy.
	That's why I don't want to get into it.
	I feel like everybody's not going to be able to do it.
	No, I mean, it was.
	I'm saying at the time when they were putting these books together to make the Bible, that it was publicly debated which books are going in and which ones aren't.
	And the way that they're able to verify this is they're looking at, is this a third-party source or is this something that actually came from the apostles themselves?
	There was good reasons why they kept mini books out.
	Yeah, I'm not really going to dive too deep into things because, you know, I'm not, I'm not even going to get into it actually.
	Well, I mean, I feel like I'm just curious about your beliefs on this creator of yours.
	That's all.
	Yeah, I mean, I think that's the only thing that's not God of the Bible.
	No, it's God.
	I just think that, like, you know, I'm not, I can't, I don't want to speak too much on it just because I don't want to.
	But I think that the Bible and the stories in the Bible were translated.
	Also, a lot of the kings and stuff made them a lot of these things different, false.
	Yeah, so you have power among people.
	So you don't believe in the same God because God, we believe he is who he says he is, which says that the eternal scriptures have not been tampered and that they are true.
	And that every single word is God-breathed.
	But you don't believe that.
	You think it's manipulation.
	You said you believe in the Bible, and when we were talking about gender roles specifically, you were like, you guys are religious.
	Of course, you believe that.
	We believe that because we believe in the Bible, but didn't you just say you also believe in the Bible?
	Hold on.
	Scoop your mic a little bit.
	Well, some stories in the Bible aren't meant to be like some of the Bible.
	Well, I mean, like some of the Bible.
	I mean, I do believe in the Bible, but I also believe that the Bible has been manipulated by kings and all types of things.
	So you don't believe God is who he says he is in the Bible?
	Herronius!
	I mean, she's definitely right.
	There's tons of Bibles which have been manipulated by kings.
	Yeah, like King James, right?
	I mean, there's no doubt that that's true.
	I just, I'm not sure if you're not getting information about your creation.
	Well, I grew up in a creation of a creation.
	I'm not sure if I'm doing that.
	I believe the Bible stories are correct.
	I believe certain things, like a lot of the stories are correct, but I also believe that it's been manipulated, so I don't think it's the whole truth.
	I think there's a lot of truth missing out of the Bible that you can't find.
	I mean, I'm not a Christian.
	I'm not sitting up here saying I'm a Christian, so I don't believe you have to pick and I think you can't pick and shoot.
	We don't believe in the same Christian.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Yeah.
	I mean, that's.
	Well, I mean, like, it's all a greater force.
	Like, we can't comprehend it.
	And, I mean, either way, like, there's stories in the Bible that aren't.
	I think there's no thoughts on the religious conversation.
	Yeah, I'm good.
	We can move it on.
	Well, I have a question for Andrew.
	Did you agree that you believe that some of the Bible has been manipulated and that it's not that God didn't have sovereign control over the Bible?
	Yeah, I believe that Protestant churches constantly have manipulated the Bible.
	Everything to the feminist Bible, which they wrote, a brand new Bible, which was a feminist version, to several Protestant churches making their own scripture.
	Like, for instance, I would consider Mormons to be Protestants.
	I've considered Jehovah's Witnesses to be Protestants.
	I would consider those to be extra canons, which they added, which they're not allowed to do, like the Mormons did with Joseph Smith.
	So, yeah, there's been a lot of people who are not.
	Well, I'm not saying that the Protestants, yeah.
	I'm saying, like, a basic NASB 1995.
	Do you think it's not fully true?
	Do you think it doesn't have the deuterocanons?
	Yeah, so it's not complete.
	So, like, with the, what do you mean by that, with full apocryphas in it?
	Yeah.
	I mean, right?
	It's not.
	I mean, I believe God, I mean, my opinion, I believe God has sovereign control over everything.
	That's my piece over everything.
	I do, I know, but I'm correct, right?
	It's not, is it the full, is it the full Bible or not?
	I mean, God allowed it to be taken out for a reason, and he knows better than you and I. Do you not agree?
	No, he didn't allow the original church.
	The original church.
	I'm just saying.
	The original church put the Bible together, right?
	And we're still using that same Bible to this day.
	You're using a different Bible.
	I don't know what Bible you're using, but it's not the Bible I'm using.
	Can I see your Bible?
	Is it like?
	Yeah, well, no, I'd have to go upstairs to get it.
	But yeah, it would have, it's going to have things in it that yours clearly doesn't, right?
	You just, you just said it yourself.
	Right.
	Yeah, the Apocryphas.
	Yeah, so I mean, but you just got done saying something different that's never been modified.
	It's clearly been modified.
	I'm not saying it hasn't been modified.
	I'm saying, do you think that God didn't have sovereign control ultimately over his word?
	And how?
	Yeah, and I'm still reading his word.
	You're reading something that's not complete.
	That was not the original Bible, which was put together by the people.
	But how do you know I haven't read Apocryphas?
	I just don't have it in a Geneva Bible.
	Yeah, why isn't it in the Bible, in your Bible?
	Why not?
	Because I believe that God allowed it to be taken out, that people didn't.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, Joseph Smith believed the same thing.
	He believed that God allowed him to add to it.
	But it just has nothing to do with their salvation.
	And I think a lot of people fall to idolatry.
	What does that have to do with anything?
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Back up, back up.
	The question is not whether or not leaving the salvation question to the side.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Talking about, and this, by the way, Bible that I read.
	But talking about whether or not it has to do with salvation would be the same argument Joseph Smith would make.
	The question is: how can you make the claim that you're not reading a modified Bible when you're reading a modified Bible and you know you're reading a modified Bible?
	I don't know where you came up with this idea you're not.
	You are.
	They all have translations based on the language and stuff like that.
	But I just, I, like I said, I believe that it reflects God's word, and I do think God has control over that and what goes on.
	Well, then, okay, so then if that's true, God also has control over this Bible that I'm reading.
	And if this Bible that I'm reading is different than the Bible that you're reading, are you saying that the God that I'm worshiping is different than the God that you're worshiping?
	Or did He give me a different Bible for some reason?
	Thank you.
	Not necessarily.
	But what I was, oh, sorry.
	Then I don't understand.
	Right?
	There's only there can only be, there's only going to be one Bible, right?
	There can't be multiple Bibles.
	Are you talking to me?
	Yeah.
	I'm trying to fix your microphone.
	Oh.
	You guys, if you guys look into the camera, right, this is what, look, I know it's annoying for me to go med about this and interrupt this conversation.
	What you guys end up often doing is blocking your entire faces with the microphone.
	We want you guys here.
	You can see chin, mouth, speaking into the microphone.
	You guys end up blocking your whole face.
	We can't see you.
	Just try to be cognizant of that.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, so anyway, so I'm just saying to you that when she claims that there's all sorts of modifications which have happened to the Bible from Protestant sex, I don't see how she's wrong.
	Because that's true.
	No, I'm not sure.
	That's true.
	Oh, he can't hear me.
	I'm not arguing that.
	What I was arguing was she was saying that men manipulated it to use it for their own power and self-gain to manipulate.
	They have.
	They have done that.
	I mean, she's not wrong about that either.
	They definitely have done that.
	I don't believe that.
	You don't believe that any men have manipulated the messaging in the Bible for the purposes of power and control.
	Really?
	I mean, maybe they've taken the context and the terms and twisted it to their own use.
	But no, I really do believe that the Bible is, you know, God-breathed.
	I'll die on that hill.
	Okay, so let me get this right.
	Let's see if we can untangle this mess real quick.
	Do you believe in prosperity doctrine, prosperity, gospel?
	No.
	Okay.
	How are men not using the Bible and twisting it?
	That's not what I said.
	I didn't say people didn't use scripture.
	I'm saying that the scriptures were not taken, like written scripture, then taken, twisted, twisting God's words like in the Bible to hand to more people to be misunderstood.
	I believe if you got dropped off on an island with a Bible, you can find salvation in Jesus through getting to know God through his word.
	You mean natural law?
	Natural law.
	Yeah, I mean, so you're saying absent a Bible.
	Apps in a Bible if you're dropped on an island.
	No, but I said to be able to come to Jesus Christ, right?
	Yeah, well, I said with a Bible, but without a Bible, yeah, God is manifest within you, so every person is without excuse.
	Why do you need a Bible at all?
	Well, if you're lucky enough to have one, then why do you need one at all?
	Can you each make your final statements on this code?
	Yeah, I'm not sure.
	Yeah, I just want to know, why do you need one at all if you're just going to come to the truth anyway?
	I think that that's not what we were talking about.
	I'm just saying that I believe the Bible.
	That's my question to you.
	My question to you is this question.
	Why do you even need it at all if you're just going to come to the truth anyway?
	You don't.
	You really don't.
	You don't have to have a Bible.
	Everyone knows that God exists.
	The moral law is written on their hearts, and God tells us so.
	God is manifest within you.
	People will be able to do it.
	You don't need a Bible.
	Huh?
	So you don't need the Bible?
	I'm just saying you don't need the Bible to know that God is real.
	It tells us that in the book of Romans, chapter 1.
	Now, what's the Bible for?
	If you want to get to know God's nature and character and to get closer to him, because if you love God, why would you not want to get to know him through his word that he left here on earth for us?
	Final point from the both of you.
	That's it.
	I believe the Bible.
	Yeah, well, we'll leave it there.
	Let God be true and every man a liar.
	All right.
	So.
	What did you say?
	It's a scripture.
	Let God be true and every man a liar.
	Okay.
	I didn't hear what you said, so I was just asking.
	It's okay.
	All right.
	We have cheers to Brian and Andrew.
	Patience.
	Also, happy Father's Day to all the dads.
	Kron.
	Hey, thank you, man, for the soup chat.
	Appreciate it, dude.
	And happy Father's Day to all the fathers out there.
	Co.
	Did you check this out?
	Yeah, I did.
	Okay.
	Hi, Brian.
	Longtime listener.
	Second time read Super Chatters.
	Andrew in the studio.
	I'm kind of drunk, so I disregard my previous Ukraine comments.
	Great show.
	Ask the girls about the Talmud.
	No, I'm good.
	Isn't the Orthodox study Bible based off the NKJV?
	KO, thank you for the soup chat.
	But, I mean, they probably don't even know what that is.
	I do.
	New King James Version.
	Yeah, New King James.
	No, that's not.
	The Orthodox.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	We have a question here from Stiffler.
	Ask everyone to rate their looks.
	Total flip face body on a scale of 1 to 10.
	Can't pick 7.
	Starting with you.
	I try to switch it up.
	10 all the way around.
	10?
	Yeah.
	Now, he does ask total face body.
	Is it 10, 10, 10?
	Yes.
	I think God made me perfect.
	Okay.
	I'll come back to that.
	Let me actually write this down.
	God made you.
	Although you don't believe in God.
	I do believe in God.
	I never said I did it.
	She's the one saying I don't believe in her God.
	All right.
	So hold on.
	I said, I do.
	I believe in the Creator.
	What about you?
	I don't know.
	Seven's like my father.
	Wow, you're really far from that microphone there.
	Jesus.
	Okay.
	Sorry, I'm like, I haven't slept either.
	Seven's my favorite number.
	Right now, I'm going to have to go with like a six.
	I'm not going to lie.
	So total face body.
	I could give it eight on a good day.
	Total face body.
	Eight.
	Total?
	Yes, so I'm asking for three answers.
	So what would you?
	Eight on a body.
	Oh, so are you saying eight for all?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Eight for the face and six for the body.
	Okay, so total.
	14.
	14.
	No, no, no.
	Oh, okay.
	That was me, too.
	I was like, so like, okay, your total count could be 10, max.
	Face could be 10.
	Body could be 10.
	We don't add the two numbers together.
	Yeah, 8 for the face and then 6 for the body.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm going all sixes online.
	Going to you over there.
	I feel like six on the face.
	I want to pick, like, I can't pick seven.
	7.5 in my body.
	And then total?
	Yeah, 7.5.
	6.
	For total, I would do 6.
	Face 6.
	Body, 7.
	Oh, I can't.
	8.
	Okay.
	So since I can't say 7 for anything, I think my face would be closer to an 8 than a 6.
	Body, probably 6.
	And then total, probably closer to a 6 than an 8.
	So 6.
	And can I quickly follow up with this by asking if we can go around one more time and ask from your personal perspective, who do you think the prettiest girl in the room is?
	Oh, starting with Red Bigs.
	Who do you think the prettiest girl in the room is?
	Oh, I don't know.
	I can't remember her name, but over here.
	Oh.
	In the black?
	No, the white.
	Oh, Lauren.
	Okay.
	Oh, this is a harder read.
	Oh, everyone's beautiful.
	Oh, I'll see.
	Abigail?
	By the way, you can pick yourself.
	That's fine, too.
	Oh, yeah, I do the prettiest girl in the room.
	But Abigail.
	So, Abigail?
	Okay.
	I don't know, I feel like everyone here is like, like everyone here is like, yeah!
	Don't weasel!
	Don't weasel!
	Can I like pass?
	No, you got to answer this.
	Can I get one pass?
	Nope.
	Because everyone in here is hot.
	Everybody is like the prettiest out of all the hot girls that you see is.
	I'd pass.
	Oh, we can't force her to answer.
	We can't force her now, I guess.
	Probably these two ladies right here next to me.
	I like them.
	I think they're very pretty.
	Which one do you think?
	Both of them.
	Who's the prettiest girl in the room?
	They're going to play this game with you, Andrea.
	Yeah, we just want to play this game.
	I don't want to answer that question.
	I'm tired of it.
	Damn, man.
	I didn't know we could get out of it.
	I really tried to.
	I already know, but my turn?
	Yeah.
	Grace?
	Yeah, I'd say so.
	I find you very attractive.
	You're gorgeous.
	Thank you.
	Oh, fucking love interesting.
	Oh, okay.
	Robert 10 or hey, Andrew, do you have your own channel?
	If okay, I would like to follow, though.
	I am a Western Roman Catholic.
	Yeah, he does have a channel.
	We're going to rate him after our show.
	It's The Crucible.
	So yeah, be sure to go subscribe to Andrew.
	Are you at 100k, Andrew?
	Just shy.
	2,000 shy.
	Guys, we're getting Andrew Wilson.
	We're getting Andrew Bartholomew Wilson.
	Is that his middle name?
	It is his middle name.
	Please don't bully him, though.
	Please don't use that.
	Please don't make fun of him.
	We're getting, boys, we're getting him to 100k fucking tonight.
	Perhaps during the stream?
	Boys, there's, hold on.
	Wait, Nick, could you show us the view count?
	Show us the view count.
	We can do this.
	I'm pretty sure we can do this tonight.
	Guys, we have 8,000 on YouTube, 2,000 on Twitch.
	Can the mods put his channel in the description?
	Guys, we're getting him.
	Did somebody fart?
	Or is that just like that?
	No, it smells so bad.
	I smell that.
	I smell that.
	It's from the outside.
	Yeah, I think it's outside because that's like a sewer.
	It smells so good.
	Guys, we're getting Andrew Bartholomew Wilson to 100,000 subscribers tonight.
	Okay, so go fucking drop him a sub, boys.
	8,000 viewers, we can do it.
	2K away, right, Andrew?
	2K.
	All right, get him to 100K.
	Get him that plaque, baby.
	Okay.
	All right, you can hide that.
	No, I actually wanted to come back to the soul 10 ranking here.
	Oh, my God.
	And actually, can you snag her Instagram?
	My Instagram?
	Yeah, pull up her Instagram, Nick.
	It's Josie.
	Nobody knows what it is.
	It's the Josie one.
	Let me actually don't pull it up yet.
	Let me just review it first before we, you know.
	Hold on.
	Singer, rapper, model.
	Wait, you have OF?
	I didn't know you.
	Did you say that during the intro?
	I don't think you did.
	No.
	Okay, well.
	She said she hustles.
	All right, she's got an OF.
	Hold on, let me not check it out right now.
	Just kidding.
	It's not that deep.
	What the fuck is going on there?
	Can I go look, please?
	No.
	I have free will.
	It's nothing.
	Don't even trip.
	By the way, have you girls also noticed how much better the panel's already gotten now that the soul-sucking energy has left?
	I'm just curious.
	Is that do you agree or disagree?
	I don't.
	I guess we have different topics now.
	I mean, content is content.
	Look, Andrew, to be fair, it was that time of the month for me before the show.
	Dude, I was super tilted.
	Granted, we had like flakes and we had two no-shows and then lates.
	And a couple people running late, but the no-shows, that was pretty bad.
	Late's not so bad.
	She was also a soul-sucking energy vampire.
	There was also that.
	Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to think.
	Yeah, pretty much.
	She came in.
	I mean, I was kind of a little bit on edge.
	And then it's kind of like, have you ever like hyped up a dog and you just like start spazzing out a little bit and the dog starts spazzing?
	Like, that's kind of what happened there.
	Like, I was a little on edge.
	And she was like, okay, let me start to freak the fuck out too.
	I love the dog.
	But she was, great, she was pretty.
	She was a bit rough.
	She was a bit rough.
	Nick wasn't able to lay down the law because normally he does like a whole like 10, 15 minute pre-show, but we skipped the pre-show.
	I don't think we've ever skipped a pre-like pre-show instruction.
	Oh, no, no, no, no.
	And that's Nick's favorite part of the show.
	I can always see when I'm there.
	Loves it.
	He loves that more than anything.
	Given the pre-show notes.
	Yeah, it's his favorite for sure.
	So, yeah, I think that didn't really set the stage for like expectations and conduct and shit.
	So, anyways, meta-conversation.
	Oh, so going back to Jodi here.
	Miss Work.
	Jodie.
	Josie is Jodi.
	Is that your?
	Is it actually with a Z?
	Like, that's your legal government name?
	It does.
	Not my legal name.
	Okay, word.
	I'm just, damn, bro, your Instagram's kind of.
	Yeah, it's not.
	It's not.
	You shouldn't.
	You probably shouldn't.
	It's probably fine.
	I can probably.
	Yeah, don't.
	I did it.
	So you said you were a 10, though.
	You're a 10 out of 10.
	Yeah.
	Total face, body.
	And you said that God made you perfect.
	God made us all perfect.
	I have a question for you.
	Do you have breast implants?
	Maybe.
	Well, I'm curious, if God made you perfect, why do you need to get fake titties?
	Honestly, it's just something I wanted to do.
	I like how bodybuilders work.
	I like how it works.
	I liked my body before.
	Before the fake titties?
	Yeah, well, actually, I like my.
	Yeah, I think so.
	I liked my body before.
	And I would have rated myself.
	If the titties were already perfect.
	Girl, why are you looking at me like that?
	Me?
	Yeah, you?
	You looking at me like, she's judging me.
	I'm not judging.
	I'm listening, I promise.
	Let's get the micro down that way.
	Okay.
	I'm just trying to understand because you said you're 10.
	Because I'm not going to rate myself anything less than that.
	Now, what other people want to rate me, they can.
	I don't care.
	Your opinion doesn't matter to me.
	Any other procedures besides the fake titties?
	Yeah, that's it.
	What do you have?
	I had my lipo.
	You had lipo?
	Yeah.
	Where did they put it?
	In my butt.
	In the booty?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Lip filler or anything like that?
	No.
	So just done nothing tonight.
	Do they call it a BBL?
	Yeah, I had a BBL.
	Okay, so fake boobs.
	I had my whole body done.
	Whole body?
	Yeah, well, just my body.
	So, okay, so boobs, lipo, BBL.
	Well, it was the lipo was the BBL.
	You feel me?
	It was like done in the same procedure, but so, but they took from the lipo, because you could get lipo and just get lipo.
	Yeah, so I was really skinny.
	I actually had to gain weight.
	I had to gain like 20 pounds to get the procedure.
	Wait, hold on.
	What?
	I'm sorry, hold on.
	I got to play something.
	You intentionally got fat?
	Yes.
	So that you could.
	So you were, let's say you were, how much did you weigh before you decided to intentionally get fat?
	125.
	I didn't really get fat.
	I was just really skinny.
	Put on, okay, you gained weight.
	Yeah.
	I mean, 145 for my height actually isn't any type of, it's pretty actually like regular.
	Like a weight for my height.
	I was kind of actually on the skinnier hair.
	Like girl, like skinny chicks will intentionally gain weight so they can have it removed so they can go back to how they it's so they can get a BBL.
	Yeah, so they probably get a fat in their booty.
	They'll be chair.
	Okay, all right.
	Okay.
	Pretty much.
	So it's for the BBL.
	Like they're not going to just get the lipo if they're going to gain like they're going to use the fat and put it on the booty.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	That's still really.
	So even if God didn't make me perfect, right?
	Should I still rate myself less?
	Like well, I mean, if you're like, if you're perfect before, like, there's nothing wrong.
	I don't think there's anything wrong.
	I mean, honestly.
	Sounds like a lot of work.
	Yeah, it was just something I wanted to do, you know?
	I don't know.
	I liked how I looked before, honestly.
	I think it was good before.
	I did a lot of like photo shoots, videos, stuff like that beforehand, but I just saved up a lot of money.
	It was just something I wanted to do.
	It wasn't one of your sugar daddies that paid for it.
	No, I paid for it.
	Oh, okay.
	And I don't have sugar daddies anymore.
	Oh, well, I don't know.
	Earlier, you were saying you want a guy to pay for it.
	But okay, I'm just.
	Yeah, like as my man, if he's going to be my man, like, you want to deal with me like that?
	I'm just confused.
	So, okay, there's the 10 thing.
	You said God made you perfect.
	Even if he did it, should I still rate myself less?
	But no, but you said God made you perfect.
	You're a 10.
	He did.
	But then why would you need, if he already made you perfect, why would you need the BBL, the lipo, and the fake boobs?
	To answer.
	Because she doesn't really believe that.
	Wow, that's actually well put.
	That was well put.
	Yeah.
	Cutting to the chase there.
	I mean, that came from her mouth, not mine, but okay.
	Wait, so did you view yourself the same way prior to the cosmetic surgery?
	Like, were you a 10 before the BBL?
	Yeah, that's what I said.
	But I said I liked who I was before.
	I just wanted to ask you.
	That's not the question, though.
	That's not the question.
	You said you were 10 before the procedures.
	Yeah, if you were a 10 before the procedures, you wouldn't need the procedures.
	Do you understand what I'm trying to say?
	No, I was.
	You understand?
	No, I don't.
	Well, it's like I want a boob job, and like, say, I say I'm an eight right now.
	I'm going to get the boob job, but I still think I'm an eight.
	Don't do that shit.
	Wait, what?
	I mean, not like super like.
	You're going to do it?
	I've thought about it.
	Can you get the fake titties?
	I thought about it.
	Yeah.
	Don't do the fake titties.
	But I'd still be like, but I'd still be an eight.
	This is me and Andrew Bartholomew Wilson.
	We are natural body supremacists and we are against that fake shit.
	Get out of here with that.
	I just fuck with like anime titties like that.
	Like, I want like anime's like fucking, like, I don't know.
	Like, they look like anime titties.
	Is there something wrong with the titties currently?
	Not at all.
	There's nothing wrong with the titties?
	So why you got to get fake titties?
	Because I just, it's just.
	You just want them?
	Yeah.
	You just want them?
	Like, I'm like, I'll say, like, I've got to do it.
	Just because you want something, doesn't it?
	Doesn't mean you should get it.
	You got to do it.
	But, like, I want to.
	So I got, you know.
	You got to stop hanging out with her, bro.
	She's a bad influence.
	No, I've been wanting a boob job before this.
	Huh?
	I've been wanting one before this.
	I told my mom, my mom was like, sorry.
	What did your mom say?
	Is she like supportive or is she like?
	No, she's like, you're perfect the way you are.
	And I like, I mean, it's not that, like, I'm not.
	Like, I was made this way for a reason.
	What's your dad say?
	I don't really talk to him about it.
	Oh, okay.
	I see.
	I don't know.
	I'm not like, hey, dad, like, you know what?
	I'm not even.
	Can I ask you a question about getting a boob job?
	Now, I did have my United breast augmentation before I became a Christian.
	Who would you be doing it for?
	You?
	Like, for yourself?
	Not men.
	At all.
	Nobody except for myself.
	So, from my point of view, so I got a breast augmentation.
	I wish I wouldn't have now because I didn't do it for me.
	I did it for men and approval.
	So I would recommend to wait on something like that.
	Like, it's not something you just want to jump and do because you could regret it.
	Oh, yeah, for sure.
	How much do breast implants cost?
	I think like anywhere from like 5K to like 10K, right?
	Yeah, I would say 7 to 10.
	I mean, it could be like 30.
	Are you going to go on the low end or are you going to try to get like a better, you know, like one of those?
	I mean, like.
	High end.
	The high end.
	I don't want like boob cancer.
	I don't need that.
	I don't need whatever's in there leaking out.
	Ladies here who've had fake boobs or maybe you haven't, but you know about my understanding is, don't you need to get them replaced every like 10 to 20 years?
	You should, yeah.
	Because they decided they start breaking down.
	So over the course of a lifetime, you could go, you could have anywhere from like three to four procedures.
	Yes.
	So over the course of a lifetime, that's maybe $30,000, $40,000.
	You might have lifetime warranty cards.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, I have lifetime warranties on them.
	I wish that was my turn.
	And they're just silicone.
	They're silicone, not saline.
	And like, you know?
	Wait, no, but hold on.
	You have to do it.
	Yeah, like they come with insurance.
	Hold on.
	They'll pay for the anesthesia.
	So you're telling me, you're telling me that the surgeon will redo the surgery for free?
	Well, you paid for the warranty.
	I mean, if you get a certain kind, yeah, you have insurance on them.
	You just pay for the anesthesia.
	Maybe you have to like pay extra.
	Maybe like some of the things that you're doing.
	I don't know the details on this.
	But you don't have to pay for the implants again.
	Yes, you got to pay to go under the knife, but you don't have to pay for implants or like I don't know what the cost of the.
	I assume you still have to pay the surgeon to redo it.
	That's my understanding.
	Mine don't have to be replaced every 10 years, though.
	They've come out with new ones that unless something punctures or happens, you're fine.
	And they'll pay for anesthesia.
	I'm really glad that you're not.
	All right.
	I don't know all the details.
	Don't get breast augmented.
	I was under the impression that you had to get them redone.
	In any case, that's not really the central point of my argument.
	But I'm just kind of confused here in terms of you said it's not for men.
	It is for me.
	Who's it for?
	Myself, because it's not for men.
	Like, I've always seen myself as a perfectionist.
	So, like, when I look at my body in the mirror, like, I have a very specific way that I want to look personally for me.
	Because that's what other men like.
	Yeah, not men.
	Men's that.
	Not men.
	Myself.
	I don't want to play.
	Well, I don't want to play a role.
	Like, I don't want to fall.
	I'm going to absolutely destruction on women's mental psyche.
	No, that is very true.
	So, besides, do you want to get anything done besides the breast implants?
	No.
	You don't want the light bow and the.
	I don't think, I mean, I don't know.
	Like, I don't think I really need it.
	Ladies, don't do that shit.
	Well, yeah, no.
	I mean, everyone's like perfect the way that they are, but if they want to exemplify something.
	Even if you're not perfect.
	Even if you're not perfect.
	Even if you got small titties, don't do that shit.
	Even if one titty is bigger than the other, don't do that shit.
	I guess it's preference.
	Even if one titty is like a little leaning that pointing that way, the other titty, it's like you got fucking, what's it called when you got a lazy titty.
	Not a lazy guy, you got a lazy titty.
	If the lazy titty pointing that way, one point, you don't need that.
	You'll find a man who will love your lazy titty.
	There are men out there who will worship your lazy titty.
	But like, they can like, I mean, like, who cares?
	I mean, but like, who cares what the men think, like, about, like, my tits?
	You know, I was on top of my man worshiping my tits.
	I don't know.
	Wait, if you don't mind me asking, what's the current cup size, I guess?
	32D.
	Wait, what?
	You have a 32D?
	You, huh?
	You already have a third.
	I'm doing that shit.
	I'm doing it on purpose, boys.
	Do that on purpose.
	You already have a 32D?
	Wow.
	Isn't that like the most desired already?
	You got that natural?
	Nice.
	Nice.
	That doesn't look like it.
	That's like me already having a big dick.
	That's like me already having a big dick and be like, well, let me just make this shit bigger.
	Well, I mean, like if they want to do that, like we want them.
	Big oh.
	I don't know.
	You already have a lot of people.
	This is one of the saddest.
	This is the saddest thing.
	No, wait, wait.
	I want to know.
	I want to know something.
	I hear this all the time, and it's like.
	Tell us.
	Men also go to the gym to get bigger, stronger, and whatnot.
	Like, is that any difference?
	It's absolutely different.
	And men will straight up admit that they do that to be more attractive to women.
	The difference is women never admit to doing that to be more attractive for men.
	Well, if I got, like, say, I don't know, like, veneers, like, that'd be to be more attractive to men, but like a boob job, like, I don't know, just be for myself.
	I've just always thought about it.
	Just to be clear, you think men will care more about your teeth.
	I have British teeth.
	I have veneers.
	Show me your teeth.
	Your teeth have a beautiful voice.
	Your teeth are gorgeous.
	Nobody here has ever noticed them, so it's just the only you know.
	I feel like teeth will actually be more for me.
	They're doing whatever they want.
	I'm not even on the bottom.
	Don't let these men or women tell you otherwise.
	But don't get carried away either.
	One at a time.
	Go ahead.
	Whoever wants to make a point.
	I just say I think people, women with their bodies and men with their bodies should do what they want.
	Don't let other women or men tell you otherwise.
	But I did.
	No, But hold on, hold on.
	Can I finish?
	Can I finish?
	Because what I was just going to end up saying was just don't overdo it and don't get body, what is it, body dysmorphia?
	That's literally what's causing y'all to get this fucking plastic surgery.
	Sure, you're right.
	Sure.
	I have body dysmorphia, and that's why I want to get it, but it's not.
	And then the no, but hold on.
	You have, listen, I want to, I'm going to get, don't worry about, what the, there's like a big ass, but, oh, never.
	Never mind.
	I'm like so fluffy.
	Whatever, bro.
	If it fucking comes for me, if it comes for me, I'm going to take the bullet.
	Okay, wait.
	So you said, wait, I'm sorry, repeat what you said.
	I got distracted by the moth.
	What it feeling about.
	You said you had body dysmorphia.
	You said you're dying.
	Yes, I have body dysmorphia, but.
	Okay, but you also, you have agency, right?
	Like, you have control over yourself, right?
	Like, for example, like, make a fist right now.
	Just make a fist with your hand.
	So you got control of it.
	I don't want to show my nails.
	You have control.
	So Instead of just seating, instead of capitulating to your supposed body dysmorphia, who knows if what if it's what if that's a lie?
	What if that's programming from society that's in your head?
	What if you don't even have it?
	But let's say you do.
	You can be steadfast and say, I'm not fucking buying into this.
	Fuck no.
	I'm not going to be.
	I'm going to be in control of my mind.
	My mind is not going to be in control of me.
	Do you understand?
	I mean, I do try to do that, but I mean, I do everything.
	Right, but you got to stifle that shit.
	You got to grab that shit.
	I'm actually really tried though.
	I'm tired, bro.
	Like, I'm tired.
	Like, I've tried that.
	Yeah.
	Tired of having 32 D's?
	Yeah.
	The fuck, bro.
	You're already good.
	No, it's not enough.
	You're tripping, bro.
	She's already.
	This girl's got 32.
	This girl's got 32 D's.
	In comparison with other girls in her guys, what's that scene from Wolf of Wall Street?
	She's already got triple D's.
	Oh, she's already got double D's, but now she's getting.
	It definitely has something to do with it, but I'm just like, I feel like, I don't know.
	And it's okay to, you know, admit, like, you want other people to view you sexy, like those other women on social media.
	Like, you want that attention.
	It's okay to admit that.
	Does it make you any, you know, huh?
	Fuck that shit.
	Just be like, honestly.
	A lot of women make a lot of money off of having a nice body.
	Don't bodies.
	It depends.
	I feel like it wouldn't be for attention.
	Even if you had small titties.
	Even if you had small titties, I'd be telling you, like, it's not like, oh, your boobs are already good.
	Even if you had small boobs, saggy boobs, pointing in two different direction boobs, I'd still say this shit to a girl.
	But I mean, it's kind of even more crazy for you because you already got the titties.
	But why you got it?
	Look, okay, hold on.
	I need you.
	Do you know the word constitution?
	Yes.
	So constitute, not like the constitution.
	Not like the constitution.
	You need to curate and develop a constitution that responds to the programming that you've been fed through TV and movies and the fucking Kardashians.
	You need to say that not today.
	You got to say not fucking today.
	And you got to stifle that shit.
	You got to push it down.
	And you got, not only just that, you got to fucking destroy that shit.
	just like a perfectionist like i think that i already look good but i'm just like you wait here It's not very confidential.
	I'll engage you.
	Okay, perfectionist, right?
	What if I told you, and I know you said you're not doing it for men, but what if I told you that actually, from a purely aesthetic perspective, that actually fake breasts, do I have a lisp?
	Fake breasts are less aesthetically pleasing to the eye.
	No, for both men and women.
	For both men and women.
	Fake breasts are, they don't look right.
	No offense.
	No offense to you either.
	It just, I don't know, bro.
	It's like, especially like these girls who had nothing before, it looks like, I don't know, the skin's too tight on that shit.
	Well, that's if you get a like a, it depends on like the doctor and the sizing and everything.
	Oh, it doesn't matter.
	I ain't never seen that.
	But like, if I like it, then I like it, you know?
	I ain't ever seen some fake titties, then I'm like, those, her titties look better now.
	You ain't seen the right set then.
	Dude, I'm trusting.
	Oh, God.
	I've seen a lot of titties in my game.
	I've been to the strip club enombler.
	I'm sure there's a lot of crazy titties in there and a lot of nice ones, too.
	And but a lot of men prefer.
	Here's the crazy thing.
	You already have nice boobs.
	So it's like, what?
	Men already are going to like what you got going on.
	Yeah, but it's not for men.
	Is it for you?
	Like I know that some men don't like that And I'm just like I don't get it I mean, like, shit, it's like if you're like, per se, really short and, like, you don't, like, I don't know.
	Is that like a thing?
	Do like guys.
	I don't know.
	Say you're really short.
	You want to be taller and you're like, well, I'm going to get like taller surgery.
	And I would advise you to get that.
	But that's for the other sex, though.
	That would be for the other sex.
	I mean, Men don't care.
	I'm trying to think of an example.
	I'm trying to think of an example of something that would be like a boob job to a man.
	But he would do it for his father.
	What if you lost, like, what if you had complications and you had lost sensation?
	That would suck.
	What if you died under anesthesia?
	That would also fucking psycho.
	Yeah.
	But you're willing to take, you're literally willing to risk the chance of death, albeit low, to make your.
	How big do you want to go?
	Like a size bigger.
	So like you're single D and you want to go double D. Is that correct?
	So you're 32 D, you want to go 32 double D?
	Okay.
	So you're willing to risk your life, albeit it's a low chance of death.
	Very.
	For slightly bigger fake tits.
	Well, I mean, like, I mean, people get on airplanes to go to fucking Ibiza and there's a slight chance of death, but they still do it.
	Yeah, sure.
	And like the statistics were low, like, at least in, like, because I wasn't under.
	That's actually a fair argument.
	It's more likely to have like capular contractions and other problems with, you know, and I know the risks, but it's also like, I was also in, like, my first year of college, like, we didn't study that kind of stuff, but I wanted to be anesthetic English anesthesiologist.
	So I was in pre-med, but it's like, all I remember from in pre-med was like, this detects it.
	I'm too tired to finish my sentence.
	Like, I'm like, I'm like seeing the moths still, and I know what's not there.
	Like, I don't know.
	It's just because, like, normally I'll hear, like, it's rare to hear this from a girl who is already well in doubt.
	I don't know what the term is.
	But, like, you know, it kind of makes a little more sense if like the girl has small boobs or it's flat.
	I'm still against it, but like, you do what you want to do.
	Like, shit.
	Okay, like, what about a mom?
	Say, yeah, they always go to this.
	Okay, what's the problem?
	I'm 36 double D.
	I went up to a triple D when I was pregnant with my son.
	Then I had my daughter breastplate.
	That took some milk.
	Sucked the life out of me.
	Nick.
	And they have shrinks home.
	So then there's that extra skin from where it's stretched.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Getting a boob job to get bigger to where it was would make it where.
	For your fullness.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, if I, let's say I just grant that I'm fine with that, although I'm not.
	I still think prior to that, I just don't, I don't, I don't know.
	I just don't get it.
	I don't get it.
	Sometimes I feel like men just want to keep us ugly.
	Like, keep us in the closet and keep us ugly.
	Are you saying she's ugly?
	No, she's definitely not ugly.
	What the fuck?
	But I said, like, moms, like, when you have these kids, and then you go from regular titties to big titties back to small titties, and then you breastfeed, and then you look like that, I think one hand looks like those long tube sock titties you got going on, and then you just don't like yourself no more.
	So I think a lot of men.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Do you think that most women who get breast implants are doing it under those circumstances?
	I would think so.
	You think most fake titties because they want them.
	That's really bitty bitty.
	No, you gave me an example of women who've breastfed and there's changes to the breast.
	I would argue most breast implants are not for like something corrective, but it's just like some chick, never had kids, wants big fake titties.
	That's probably the majority.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, it's probably like 50-50.
	It's definitely not 50-50.
	You don't think so?
	I feel like girls get it more because they want them, not because they're biased after I had kids.
	I did it so I would be more sexually desired by men.
	You know, the time.
	That was my reason.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I don't know if it's a good idea.
	Look, I've done polls in the chat for the show.
	I've done Twitter polls and I'll ask, men, do you prefer, would you prefer a woman with small natural boobs or a woman with big fake boobs?
	And it's like 80, 90% of men prefer natural, even if they're small.
	I feel like men a lot of times like say they like natural, this, that, and the other, but then they go and cheat on their girls with these crazy BBL bandits and whatnot going on.
	And I'm and I'm definitely not like an advocate for plastic surgery.
	So I'm definitely not saying like go get that done.
	But I just, I feel like I see it all the time where like even for example, like a guy I previously dated, you know, would always tell me, oh, I, I, you're so skinny.
	I really like this and that.
	But then went and cheated on me with girls who were like all done up.
	And it's like, bro, that's what you really like.
	You really like that.
	Like, I'm just, I'm just the whatever, the one that's here dealing with you.
	Like type of thing.
	So I don't know.
	I just feel like men say they like this and like that, but do they really, because why are all these women then going and getting all these surgeries?
	I have a question.
	Because, okay, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	I was going to say, if we didn't have like social media the way we do, do you think women would have as much plastic surgery?
	Like if there was no social media?
	Do you think there'd be any fake boobs at all?
	No, I think there'd be less of them because I was actually just thinking about this today because I think that sometimes like with the occurrence of OnlyFans, you know, with that happening, I think that like what would happen is like that temptation would be out there.
	The guys would see it and I think that maybe the girlfriend or wife would be like, why are you looking at that?
	Like maybe should I go get my stuff done?
	Like maybe that crossed their mind.
	Yeah.
	I agree with that.
	Yeah.
	So for men.
	Yeah.
	The Kardashians have absolutely savaged like generations of women.
	Don't blame them.
	Well, I put some blame on them, but I think you as women on the individual level need to have agency and be like, I'm not going to buy into what society is telling me.
	I'm not going to buy into this.
	I'm not going to put my health at risk.
	I'm not going to waste all this money.
	I'm not going to do it.
	I'm not going to do it.
	And that's why the patriarchy needs to come back.
	So one, so we can ban and outlaw cosmetic, purely cosmetic surgery.
	Men get cosmetic surgery.
	Yep.
	And they don't talk about it.
	Got to ban that.
	And they don't talk about it.
	They keep it in the closet.
	They begin height surgery, all types of stuff.
	And they will never tell you.
	Yeah, and I'm not in favor of that either.
	I'm not in favor of that either.
	I guess there's not very many men who are getting height surgery.
	A lot more than you think.
	Just so you know.
	Go talk to a surgeon.
	Go talk to a surgeon.
	How many do you think I think are getting it?
	I mean, I don't know like a percentage.
	I want to know.
	Like, obviously, not as high as a percentage.
	What about when you say a lot more than you'd think?
	A lot more men get cosmetic surgery than you think they do.
	A lot of men get lipo.
	A lot of men get abs.
	Yeah, but that's not what I said.
	I said that a lot, most men, and I'm sorry.
	Basically, no men anywhere are getting height surgery.
	There's a few, but there's not very many at all.
	It's very dangerous.
	They break their legs.
	It's not something that most women have.
	Very ever even consider honestly.
	It's a very invasive women, but that's not the only cosmetic surgery.
	They have penal injections.
	God, they have a cosmetic surgery.
	They have penal injections to make your penis biggest.
	They do that too.
	That escalates.
	Yeah, they do.
	We're not going to talk about it.
	Men are not going to come open on a podcast like women are and be like, yeah, I got this and this and this and this done.
	They're not going to do that.
	Whatever.
	What's your point?
	I just wanted to ask what's my question.
	I wanted you to answer.
	Hang on, hang on.
	I got to take issue with this.
	No, I think that they would be just as forthright as women.
	You just can't hide it.
	You just can't hide the shit that you've had done.
	Like, we can tell when you've had nose jobs and your Brazilian butt lifts and your boob job.
	You can't hide that shit.
	You know what I mean?
	That's the distinction.
	But you think that we can't tell on men, too?
	We can tell on men, too.
	If they've had a bunch of plastic surgery, you can easily tell.
	It's not like it's something where we're like, oh, wow, I didn't know that.
	I didn't know that.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, I wanted to ask you.
	Do you think that plastic surgery is a byproduct of social media and that it wouldn't be around if social media.
	I mean, plastic surgeries existed before social media.
	There were depictions in all kinds of media prior to social media.
	I mean, if you look at the 80s and 90s, these big giant fake titties that look fucking terrible, terrible, were kind of, you know, I feel like the feel like for a period they were kind of falling out of favor, but then Kardashians came around.
	Now it's just ridiculous.
	Now it looks fucking terrible.
	BBLs, no offense to you.
	BBLs look fucking terrible.
	I've never seen a good job.
	It looks like women are dragging a full diaper.
	It doesn't.
	That's what it looks like.
	It looks like women are dragging a full diaper.
	You're like, what the heck?
	It gives me uncanny valley.
	It just doesn't look right.
	Also, the lipo belly.
	Because I need a better doctor.
	There's some girls like you.
	There's no such thing as a good-looking BBL.
	I'm sorry.
	I've seen one.
	I didn't even know it was a BBL.
	Great boob job.
	Oh, God.
	I'm not like that.
	I mean, like, I saw this one.
	I mean, look, I looked at your Instagram.
	We're not going to pull it up.
	I did notice on your Instagram.
	You have pretty very evident scarring.
	I believe.
	Is it from your lipo?
	Where?
	You don't have scarring on your belly?
	No, I have no scarring on my belly.
	Sorry, I don't know if it's scarring, but lipo tends to.
	It doesn't even like, I feel like my stomach doesn't even look warped like the lipo bellies you're talking about.
	Okay, so how does it get fucking?
	Okay, go ahead.
	If you're fine with me pulling it up, I do need to just double check and make sure it's not like or you said you were pregnant, right?
	So it's not clear to me if these markings on your belly are from your pregnancy or from the lipo?
	Show it.
	Yeah, I have a kid.
	Oh, I'm not pregnant right now.
	Anyways, we're not going to pull it up.
	Well, then I can't tell you.
	You're not aware of the markings on your there's no, yeah, if you want me to point it out, I mean, it's no scarring.
	They didn't lipo me right here.
	They didn't do anything right here.
	The lipo was done on my back and like way down in my bikini line.
	You can't see the scar on any of my favorite.
	Okay, so then maybe it's from your pregnancy then.
	The scars are not scarcing.
	It's not scars, right?
	I mean, if it's a stretch mark.
	Okay, well, I mean, I've seen like the lipo belly, it does tend to, if they get it from the lower abdominal or the mid-abdominal, it does distort the belly.
	The front belly.
	Maybe you got it from a different region, but I think that has to do with post-op care.
	I think women go into surgery a lot of times, not very educated on how expensive post-op care is and stuff.
	So you got to get massages and you're supposed to get them for like four, six months after your surgery.
	Most women can't afford that.
	It's like $100 of massage.
	And then the first month you need them every single day.
	So in the first month, you're going to spend $2,000, $3,000 just on massages.
	And then you're supposed to keep getting them.
	So if you don't do that, you're going to have a lipo-crazy-looking belly because all that fluid is still stuck in your stomach.
	And that's what makes it look like that.
	I love how educated you are, though.
	Like, you have full range to speak on it because, like, it's like, you are educated.
	So wait, you're like co-signing her cosmetic surgery.
	I think that I don't have to agree, per se, what she's saying, but she is educated.
	She is educated on the topic.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Look, I'll just say this.
	I'm a natural body supremacist.
	Exactly.
	So he's not going to agree with anything.
	Well, okay, for example, I'd rather a girl with an A-cup over, like, she could be flat over fake tits.
	I'd prefer like even a little belly fat over lipo.
	I'll take a small ass over a BBL.
	I'll take a small upper lip over lip fillers.
	Basically, you can just take any woman who's had these procedures, and I'd prefer them as they were before having got the procedure.
	So, and I genuinely think a lot of men feel this way.
	And I do think, ladies, you kind of, at least when it comes to your dating prospects, I know you guys aren't like, it's not for the men.
	Let me just grant that.
	Fine, you're not doing it for the men.
	It still hurts your dating prospects, I genuinely think, because I think a man who does have his head on right is going to see a woman who's got all this cosmetic surgery.
	And like, it's going to kind of like make him consider like, hmm, okay.
	Someone who has a lot of plastic surgery, that's a proxy for body dysmorphia.
	I'm not speaking for yourself, really.
	No, I'm speaking for a lot of men.
	No, because there's a lot of men who date a lot of women that are dying.
	Where's the ring?
	What's the name?
	Cool.
	Guys will fuck you.
	They're plenty of men and women.
	Look at all these celebrities.
	All their women are BBL out and freaking degenerates.
	Says you.
	Do you think society would be better if women didn't feel a need to get plastic surgery?
	Do you think society would be better?
	Like, would it be better for women if there was no plastic surgery?
	Because if nobody could get plastic surgery, then there would not be this competition thing.
	I think some plastic surgery is, like, good, but then some is, like, way over the top.
	Like, it just depends on, like...
	Okay, give me an example of a good plastic surgery.
	What if somebody, like, wanted, like, had a big mole on their face and they wanted it removed?
	Like, that's a plastic surgery.
	The origin, the origin.
	Yeah, this is.
	Hold on.
	I'm sorry.
	Sorry.
	Go ahead.
	And they felt like everyone was staring at me.
	I think we're going to make the same argument, Andrew.
	The origin of plastic surgery was actually to fix some sort of deformity.
	Or if somebody was injured in warfare, for example, half their face is blown up.
	Someone got in a, you know, they were in a fire, terrible disfigurement.
	I think in those circumstances, plastic surgery is medically indicated and justified, and it will improve their quality of life.
	It's not clear to me if most plastic surgery that's done today is done for these same sort of righteous reasons.
	It occurs to me that it's typically done for vanity.
	I want bigger boobs.
	I want a flatter stomach.
	There's not a medical indication for putting plastic.
	There's actually, I don't think, really any medical indication for implanting plastic into your chest.
	There's no medical justification for that.
	Yeah.
	And fine.
	I'll grant in the case of a woman getting breast cancer, she has a breast removed.
	I'll grant that.
	Or like kids, and then it's all, you know, she feels.
	Sure, I'll grant that too.
	I like it.
	I like plastic surgery.
	In the case of a single woman who's never, who's never had children and who doesn't have breast cancer, I can't think of a medically indicated reason for why she would need plastic surgery.
	I don't think anyone needs plastic surgery unless you have one of those medical.
	Like, I don't need plastic surgery, but I'm like, I could, I'd.
	I think if someone had a deformity or felt like that, people were staring at that instead.
	I remember when I was younger, I had something that people I felt like were staring at constantly, and I just felt so self-conscious about it, and nobody cared about it but me.
	So when I got older, I paid for it and then it was gone.
	And I was like, wow, like, I feel so much better now.
	Like, I feel like people aren't staring at that anymore.
	Like, that's cool.
	Like, it's good.
	But yeah, like you said, if it's over the top, then it's like not in.
	Andrew, you wanted to come in on something?
	Yeah, so this is a conflicting topic for me.
	I've thought about it far more than I probably should, but because I'm on the show so much, I kind of had to dive into it.
	So some of the conflicts I have would be, so you brought up a good one.
	What if you want to have a mole removed?
	Or what if you're morbidly obese and you lose a ton of weight?
	Like you lose 700 pounds or something, and you know how they get that loose skin?
	Yeah.
	And then they go in and they kind of cosmetically fix it and they stretch the stomach and this type of thing.
	So I think what Brian is kind of pushing at, and I think I would tend to agree with this, is what we're looking at, we know kind of what a normal proportion of a human being looks like.
	So we engage in society day in, day out, all day long.
	We see hundreds and hundreds and thousands of human beings and hundreds of thousands over our lifetime, this type of thing.
	We kind of know what normal looks like and what normal proportions look like.
	And so if somebody has horrible burn scars or things like this, which can be kind of cosmetically brought back to what that standard of normalcy is, I think that nobody would really object.
	But it's cosmetic enhancements, suddenly that actually creates a different kind of disproportionality.
	And I think that that's what he's actually objecting to.
	And I think that that's what he means by a beauty standard, that people would much rather see what they would consider natural proportions on people because, and why wouldn't we, right?
	That we're kind of ingrained to do that.
	And so I think what happens often is women go, well, wait a second.
	I wish I had bigger breasts or I wish I had this or I had that.
	And so they'll get that enhanced, but then the proportions often totally off for their body type.
	It doesn't even look correct.
	And so you say, well, but men will still have sex with me.
	Yeah, but so what?
	You know, they'll have sex at the two, at the end of the bar close, too.
	Who gives a shit if they'll have sex with you?
	That's not an indication that the beauty standard itself is actually good.
	Facts.
	And if I can actually add to that argument, do you think that the deciding factor, like let's say you are dating a guy and you do have BBL, lipo, fake boobs?
	Do you think he's with you solely because of those things?
	Wait, something?
	I sort of, I guess.
	Do you think like, like if you lost those alterations that you've made or you didn't have them, you think he would dump you?
	You think he wouldn't be with you?
	You think he wouldn't, you think he wouldn't have even been interested?
	Let's assume you didn't have any of that stuff when you met him.
	You think he wouldn't have been into you had you not had those things?
	No, I think he would.
	I mean, because I've experienced that myself.
	Like when I got my body done, I was dating somebody and I was with them obviously before I had got my body done and I was with them after and it didn't really change the situation.
	Well, that's not really what I'm asking, but I guess what I'm asking is, is that say your life partner.
	Yeah, sure, maybe you'll get attention from superficial men that want to fuck you.
	Maybe they'll keep you around a bit.
	Maybe they'll be your sugar daddy.
	To anybody, body done or not.
	You made a point earlier, men will get with anything.
	So that really, whether you have your body done or not, doesn't matter as far as that goes.
	That's a fact.
	Yeah.
	Men will get with anything.
	They will get with anything.
	So does it make you more attractive?
	I mean, that beauty's in the eye of the beholder.
	Like, it's up to you, man, and you, I guess.
	Like.
	This man's laughing.
	All right.
	Can't really get through to you guys on this.
	But to Andrew's point here, again, and to your point too, I'm not against it.
	Even the examples Andrew gave, like he wanted mull removed, personally, I mean, if it's a minor one, who kind of cares?
	But, you know, if you've been, you were primary, like if you were obese and then you had a bunch, you lost the weight, you had a bunch of loose skin, I think it's a little different, Andrew, there, because, and I actually would kind of be fine with like loose skin removal.
	There actually could be medically indicated reasons why it could potentially loose skin could present some actual physical discomfort.
	Charlie Tanner donated $200.
	European markets are opening.
	I need to start my second job.
	You are all beautiful and deserve a lot better.
	Stay how you are.
	There are many men, myself, that will take care of you.
	And I think the difference, thank you, Charlie Tanner.
	I think one of the difference here, though, Andrew, even though I'm actually fine with the, you know, fixing up the loose skin thing, is assume, assuming this person wasn't obese and assuming, at one point in their life, their skin was not loose.
	So by getting the plastic surgery, it is a return to how to the normal proportion.
	Whereas a woman who's not gone through breastfeeding, she's not doing a return to a previous breast size.
	She's not doing a return to how she used to be, her normal, how her body normally manifested.
	Yeah, but there's a problem here.
	And the problem is this, is that you could be born disfigured.
	You could have like a disfigurement on your face or something like this, born that way.
	That's true.
	And then later technology becomes available that will fix this disfigurement so that you kind of look like everybody else who's around you.
	I still think that that's good.
	I think that that's fine.
	Like I would say, yeah, sure, get it fixed.
	You know what I mean?
	And I don't think you would object to that either, right?
	No, for example, like an example here might be like somebody who's born with what's it called the cleft palate.
	Certainly there must have been some point in history where there was no medical intervention for some people who have cleft palates.
	Plastic surgery came around.
	We're now able to, these people who have the, what's it, is it called cleft palate?
	Yeah.
	Missing cleft palate.
	I don't know.
	You know, now they can get that procedure when they're very young and they pretty much look just about totally normal.
	Don't object to that at all.
	That's a disfigurement.
	It's not clear to me if a woman who has small breasts, for example, it doesn't occur to me that that's a disfigurement.
	Well, it's not a disfigurement.
	That's what I mean is by what's proportional.
	So have you ever noticed, for instance, that you can generally tell by the frame of a person when there's something wrong?
	That's why when people are morbidly obese, you end up stopping and going, wait, something's wrong here because it's totally disproportionate to the frame.
	So you go, wait, this is a sign that it's not healthy or you look bad, this type of thing.
	That would be kind of ingrained in you as a sign of non-health.
	And so I think kind of what I would get at is when I look around me, I look at humanity, all the things that I observe about human beings, I can kind of tell when something's off, right?
	I can tell when weight, this is not correct, the proportion is off.
	There's some sort of enhancement or there's something.
	I think that you can generally tell about people just based on their body frame.
	And so, yeah, I think that the attractiveness level does decrease.
	There's a reason that human beings look the way that we do and why we're super attracted to each other.
	And oftentimes, these kinds of medical enhancements actually detract from that.
	And I think people don't see that.
	Yeah, I guess final thing on just the plastic surgery thing, then we'll move along.
	I just kind of see this as an assault against the physical and mental health of our mothers, sisters, daughters, girlfriends, wives, pretty much all women.
	The cosmetic industry is a, it's like, well, I mean, when I say cosmetic industry, now it's going beyond just even plastic surgery, but like makeup, all this stuff.
	It's like half a trillion dollar global industry, and they have a vested interest in, frankly, keeping women feeling insecure and self-conscious about their physical appearance.
	And this could be through the sale of makeup, through the sale of plastic surgery, all this shit.
	And so it's interesting to me, there's like two, there's almost like two feminist views on this.
	One feminist view is women should be allowed to get these procedures, do whatever you want.
	You're a boss babe.
	You should do whatever you want.
	There's actually another, a different feminist view, which actually acknowledges my position on this, which is that this is sort of a societal attack on women, essentially, and that women are being, there's this undue pressure and burden on women, also men, to get these expensive, dangerous, and unnecessary medical procedures that otherwise are not medically indicated.
	And so, yeah, I don't know.
	Anyways, I just think, Andrew, as the patriot, you're a representative of the patriarchy.
	The patriarchy, our duty, right, is to be protectors, to protect women, and we must protect them of attacks of mind and body.
	And so for that reason.
	Well, yeah.
	Well, and so I think, too, that things need, at least from a man's perspective, often to comply with reason, even over whatever it is that we're feeling in the whim.
	So I think from most men's perspective, it would be unreasonable to say, oh, inject my penis with X so that it looks bigger.
	That doesn't seem to comport with reason when it gets to what the risk potentially could be.
	But what's interesting is that women seem to ignore these risks far more, which is actually kind of bizarre to me.
	I don't really understand that.
	Well, I mean, you hear about all these stories with some of these cosmetic procedures.
	Women gets botched.
	Women die.
	They have major complications.
	They get MRSA, I think it's called, like really hard to fix infection or whatever.
	Madison's aunt wanted to get a BBL.
	It was a BBL, right, Nick?
	Wanted to get a BBL.
	Madison, she's not here.
	She works for the whatever podcast.
	She died from the procedure.
	died from the bbl thing uh you know kanye there's all sorts of complications which they i believe with breast augmentation your increase for cancer and breast cancer and everything else the risk greatly increase um There's all sorts of risks which are inherent to it, but I'm not really sure how that really supports a reason to do that exactly.
	It seems unreasonable to me.
	I just don't understand why it's done.
	I don't think ultimately I haven't seen many boob jobs that look good.
	Honestly, I'm just, I really haven't.
	And I don't, I just haven't.
	And you can tell immediately and you're just like, eh, okay.
	Listen, I'm on the small titty committee.
	I'm on the small titty committee.
	I'm a, what's it called?
	I'm an advocate for small titties.
	Women come to me.
	I'm actually.
	Well, I'm not going to go that far.
	Hey, we've got to put some respect on the small titties.
	Okay, anyways.
	Also, there's 10,000 labia plasties a year, which is every single one is just a fucking dagger to my heart.
	These poor women getting their labias chopped off.
	It's upsetting.
	It upsets me.
	I'm get very upset about it.
	Big labia matter.
	Hashtag big labia matter.
	Really the pressing issue of our time.
	Wait, there's one more thing on the fake titty thing.
	Totally forgot.
	Yeah, whatever.
	So let me get through the show notes, then we're going to wrap up.
	We have some videos for you, too.
	Oh, do we?
	Wait, we do?
	What are the videos?
	We'll have to do it another show.
	Let me read.
	Can I have you read these chats?
	Could you hide, Andrew, for a sec?
	Yeah, can you read these?
	Blondie with the black shirt, you've been chewing on your fingernails and chewing gum at the same time.
	Gross.
	And pink shirt, you're not African.
	Stop trying to be something you will never be.
	I have a compulsive disorder because I have severe ADD.
	You have what?
	Severe ADD, like a compulsive disorder.
	Sure.
	Yeah, so can you read this one?
	I don't know.
	Go outside.
	The girl you kicked reminds me of a great value Kiko and the girl with the red bangs.
	In my personal opinion, you are the hottest one there.
	Thank you.
	Honestly, that girl, I want to ask the chat, Nick, if you can show us the chat.
	I'm pretty sure that girl's worse than Kiko.
	And like, think of her first few appearances, not like, she's become more reasonable.
	We've been working on Kiko.
	She's become more reasonable.
	I'm talking OG Kiko.
	That girl was worse than Kiko, for sure.
	But I think she did it like on purpose.
	You know, I think she was having fun with it.
	I don't think she's like, she was doing that on purpose to get you guys ticked off.
	Oh, yeah, it worked.
	it worked I was already kind of she definitely tended to answer yeah um Anyways, oh, there's one thing.
	She did what to me?
	Remember, she kept saying, I'm not going to say to you what you want to hear.
	I'm sorry.
	Read this, please.
	Women need to chill with all the cosmetics and makeup.
	I'd rather marry someone with a monobrow and whiskers than a fake plastic bim freak with caked on makeup.
	I'm not even exaggerating here.
	Word.
	Okay, thank you, handsome guy.
	I mean, to the Kiko one, yeah, I mean, that girl was orders of magnitude worse than Kiko.
	At least Kiko would kind of, she'd be kind of bratty and annoying sometimes, but she would otherwise kind of be respectful.
	And you could actually change her mind.
	You could change Kiko's mind.
	You could reason with her, this other girl.
	I don't know.
	She triggered herself right off the show.
	What do I care?
	She rage quit.
	Anyways, let's get into some of the pre-show notes, unless there's anything over there.
	let's see here.
	We have, hold on.
	I feel like there's something related to the plastic surgery stuff that I totally forgot about, but whatever.
	If it comes to me, I'll bring it back here.
	One sec, guys.
	Getting to my notes.
	Going to Lily.
	Lily, yes, me and my ex-boyfriend would hang out with this girl a lot.
	One time we went to dinner with her.
	I pid.
	Do you want to tell us the story?
	Oh my God.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So, oh my god, this shit's crazy.
	It's crazy.
	This shit's crazy.
	There's two.
	Okay, so he would, and I don't have problems with like my boyfriends like having female friends.
	Like, it's whatever.
	They're cool.
	So we would like go hang out with this girl.
	I never met the girl before.
	He just introduced her and I was like, oh, like, okay, cool.
	And we went out to dinner with her one time.
	And like, I don't know.
	I felt like I was paying for everything, like, literally everything.
	From like gas to like, I don't know, just like the dumbest shit.
	And so we brought her out and ate with her one night.
	And it was literally just us three.
	And he would say, like, oh, like, like, I'm sleeping over at like my, like, my family's house or whatever.
	I don't know.
	I found out later that that was his ex-girlfriend.
	And that we were hanging out with her the whole time.
	Another time he got a tattoo.
	And he would like, he would like ask for my card, like if we were having dinner.
	He'd ask for my card.
	He'd be like, like under the table and like pretend to like pay for it with my card.
	Or like when he got a tattoo and didn't tell me that he couldn't afford the tattoo until after he got the tattoo at the front desk.
	So yeah, that it should.
	I don't know.
	I have some interesting stuff.
	That's not even that bad.
	Like that's not that bad.
	That's not the worst thing that's happened to me in a relationship.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	You also said most people have been brainwashed by the media adult content.
	When it comes to dating and intimacy, they have unrealistic standards.
	That's your hot take as well.
	Do you mean like both men and women have unrealistic standards?
	Yeah, I think so, partially for themselves and other people.
	So I think I touched base on it earlier, but honestly, the media and like pornography and all of that has had like a super negative effect on like, and I can say like the reason that like, I mean, I know a boob job exists like from the internet.
	So obviously that's not a necessarily, it's not a bad thing, but it's not a good thing.
	Wait, do you do OF?
	Have you ever done any kind of sex work or anything?
	Hell no.
	Have you considered doing it?
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Not that there's anything wrong with it.
	Now, you said when it comes to dating and intimacy, a lot of people have unrealistic standards.
	Who do you think has more unrealistic, men or women?
	Honestly, I think that that's hard because I feel like for men, it's like being shredded in the gym and stuff like that, which is like for women, it's like, oh, like having perfect hits and like a nice ass.
	And like, it's just like, it's kind of different, I guess.
	So I guess it depends.
	Wait, you mean, what do I mean?
	Unrealistic standards in terms of.
	Of like how they view themselves, like their body and like how the way that they look and stuff like that.
	No, but I mean in terms of dating.
	Oh.
	Sorry, I'm like so tired.
	I'm like trying to like stay on topic.
	Yeah, I think that, or I was in a relationship one time where it's like he was, and I would be scrolling through like Instagram and I would see like, he would be liking all the girls with like unrealistic body standards, like clearly Photoshop pictures.
	And I'd be like, oh, so that kind of put into my brain that that's what he wanted.
	So now I was like, oh, like I have to be like that.
	I have to be like that.
	Like when I was in that relationship.
	So I think that honestly, like the media and everything like that, it definitely affects relationships because I don't know from personal experience, it negatively affected me and him, I guess, as well.
	Okay.
	Oh, by the way, Nick, I want to, you told me before with this girl that rage quit.
	You said that she had like disagreements.
	Did she actually tell you what those disagreements were?
	I can't remember exactly, but it was basically like she'd seen the show.
	I disagree.
	I hate that shit.
	It's actually funny.
	So, yeah, oh, you were there too?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, she just said she hated it.
	She hated the show.
	I should have gotten into that.
	But that would have been interesting to actually hear her criticisms because it's always interesting to actually see if people can flesh those ideas out.
	Actually, one of her friends just DM'd me.
	So apparently we had her friend DM'd us asking to be on the show and I believe her name was Paloma, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so they were originally going to maybe come on in May, but then we never, I don't know, they kind of ghosted.
	And so that's probably how they knew about like how she knew about the show because they were originally going to come on, but they flaked.
	So anyways.
	Ah, shit.
	I was actually going to get into the disagreement stuff, but that's why I was telling her to stay, but she left.
	Let's get into the rest of the notes here.
	Moving on to, hold on.
	We have Lily, we have Abigail.
	You're anti-feminist, anti-sex work.
	You have two sex workers here.
	How do you feel?
	You want to tell them to their face that you're anti-whatever they're doing?
	Yeah, I mean, I think me?
	How am I sex working?
	You have an OnlyFans?
	I don't do porn on my OnlyFans.
	What do you do?
	Pornity.
	What do you do on there?
	Literally post thirst traps, I guess.
	Like Instagram stuff, I guess.
	In a way, I feel like that's a.
	I mean, like.
	You do know that that's the perception, though, of course.
	I mean, I don't care.
	Yeah, of course.
	And it's also a lot of very.
	The description in your OnlyFans, it says subscribe to see my archives.
	Nobody else has access to.
	Things might get real hot in here.
	Ask for personal videos and then you say, come have fun with me, but you've spelled that word.
	It's OnlyFans, of course.
	How are you not a sex worker?
	I'm sorry.
	You're a sex worker.
	Go subscribe to my OnlyFans and tell me what you see on there.
	Doesn't matter.
	Is part of your work?
	Is part of your work trying to make a difference?
	Make a man's pee-pee hard.
	Is that part of your work?
	I mean, if they subscribe to my OnlyFans and that's why they're coming to check out your Sterling personality.
	But it's really quirk videos.
	It's really just pictures of my bikinis.
	Actually, we might be able to pull.
	Wait, can't you?
	I just want to know: do you think that they're coming out and checking out your OnlyFans because they want to do long walks on the beach and hear about how to do it?
	Hang on, let me finish.
	Hear about how you're emotionally stable you are and your takes on politics.
	Or are they there because they want to see your boobs?
	You tell me.
	Which thing do you think that they're there for?
	I mean, I know why they're there and you do too.
	What are they there for?
	They're there to try to get sexy content.
	Right.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	I suppose sexy content.
	I don't do pornography.
	Because you're a sexy person.
	That doesn't know.
	It doesn't make having an OnlyFans does not make you a sex worker.
	People have OnlyFans and freaking do chef stuff on.
	So what makes you a sex worker then?
	I mean, a sex worker is really somebody who sells their body for like you are.
	How am I selling my body?
	I'm selling an OnlyFans.
	I'm sorry.
	Are you putting pictures of your body, which you're then selling to sit?
	I'm not even having sex with anybody.
	I'm not having sex with anybody.
	So how am I assuming that?
	You don't need sex is not a requirement of prostitution.
	I'm pretty sure it is.
	I'm pretty sure it is.
	Don't pull it up until I.
	Oh, it is.
	It is.
	Okay.
	Let me just make sure I get this right.
	If you were to go and just like fondle a guy's gonads.
	If you're just to go, you're never going to let me answer the question.
	If you were just to go fondle a guy's gonads, there's no actual sex.
	Would you be a prostitute if he paid you money and you did that?
	I don't know.
	Ask law enforcement, not me.
	So you don't know by your own standard what a sex worker is, then how do you know you're not one?
	No, I just I'm not one.
	What?
	Just because being OnlyFans does not make me a sex worker.
	Me being on the sex worker, you don't know what one is.
	What are you talking about?
	A sex worker is somebody who's like a prostitute or escort.
	That's a sex worker.
	Somebody who is going and getting money to have sex with somebody.
	Exchange.
	No, because that's a sex worker.
	No, because you could be showing up as a prostitute to give a sexy massage to a guy where there's no actual sex exchange.
	You're still a prostitute.
	I mean, I think you're still a prostitute if you have sex for money, yes.
	Now, if you show up to give somebody a massage and that's all you ever did, does that make you a sex worker?
	So if you show up, is that even illegal?
	No.
	Are the police going to call you a sex worker?
	No.
	So you're not going to be a bad person.
	You're just pradling.
	Stop praddling.
	And listen, if you show up at a guy's house, you stop pradling.
	If you just show up at a guy's house, you take off all of your clothes, you're still pradling.
	If you take off all your clothes in front of it, still prattling.
	If you take off all your clothes in front of it, it's still pradling.
	Anyway, if you take off all your clothes in front of him and you start masturbating, you're not a sex worker.
	Just want to make sure if he pays you for that, you're not a sex worker?
	If he pays.
	Is that right?
	Yeah.
	Ask the police.
	Don't ask me.
	I know what I do isn't illegal, so I'm not a sex worker.
	And I mean, it's illegal.
	It's legal in other places.
	So I don't know.
	So let me get this right.
	The only standard for what a sex worker is is what the police say it is.
	I mean, yeah, that's the people who came with all that.
	so then why is it even illegal like why is it right so then so then if i can give you a single country that has the standard that only fans workers are classified as sex workers then you would be a sex worker right If that's what, yeah, if they classified it as a person.
	Oh, okay.
	I don't think every person with these two that I'm.
	I don't think every person with the OnlyFans is a sex worker.
	Not every person who does OnlyFans.
	By the way, I made an OnlyFans like two weeks ago, so I didn't say that every person who has an OnlyFans is a sex worker.
	I said that women who are selling sexual pictures and OnlyFans are sex workers.
	I don't think so.
	I would disagree, but okay.
	Yeah, I know, but anytime I give you a better example, you just go ask the police.
	So any woman who sends a sexy picture, does that make her a sex worker?
	No.
	It's not like a subscription service.
	But okay, so then if a guy pays me for a sexy picture and I'm not naked, that makes me a sex worker.
	Yeah, just like how if you can go out and sleep with 50 guys and that would make you a slut, but it wouldn't make you a prostitute unless they paid you.
	Okay.
	So again, if I'm getting paid, if I send somebody a picture of me in a bikini, right?
	And he pays me money, that makes me a sex worker.
	Yes.
	All right, then by your definition, sure.
	Okay.
	But by society, by the law's definition, by 5-0, I don't think it's the same.
	By all definitions, it would be sex worker.
	I don't think that's the same thing.
	Whether they prosecute you for the sex worker or not, whether they prosecute you for it or not doesn't mean it's not.
	Here. I think...
	Wait, Andrew.
	I just didn't even came along.
	So on her OF, there's no...
	Wait, did you say you shouldn't have come on?
	Yeah, because you guys are just rude.
	Well, how's it rude to call a person?
	No, what were you going to say?
	I'm not a sex worker, but thank you.
	I'm a sex worker.
	That's true.
	That is true.
	I don't want to ever be labeled that.
	Thank you.
	I'm sure.
	Well, I mean, most people who are engaging in thing bad probably don't want to be labeled as thing bad.
	No, I don't know because I don't feel like I feel like it's a pride and respect thing.
	And just because I made an OnlyFans does not make me a sex worker, which I made like a month ago.
	So.
	You're selling your body, which people are getting sexual gratification from on purpose so that they get sexual gratification from it.
	You are a sex worker.
	You're just coping.
	I don't know why you're coping so hard.
	I'm not coping.
	I think you're just trying to label me something, and I disagree with you.
	Thank you.
	Okay, well, I'm sure that there's plenty of prostitutes who would disagree that they're prostitutes who exchange money for sex workers.
	I definitely don't think so.
	I think if a woman is out selling coochie, she knows exactly what she's doing.
	I don't think so.
	So you would label a prostitute whether she liked it or not?
	Huh?
	So you would label her a prostitute whether she liked it or not?
	I think she knows she's a prostitute.
	What?
	Yeah, but if she said I'm not selling Gucci, you would label her one, right?
	I'm selling a subscription to a website that if you want to go look and see pictures of me in bikinis and me shaking ass, which you can literally see on my Instagram, same thing.
	Sure.
	And now I got to take my OnlyFans down because I just ruined it for all my fans.
	I actually wanted to do an OnlyFans where it was lunch dates and I got a.
	So I like to just eat lunch.
	And yeah.
	Firework.
	Oh, yeah.
	Wait, Andrew.
	So, would it, I don't think it, so that she, none of her images are public on her OnlyFans.
	It's literally like a blank screen, but there are some descriptions that I think would actually help make the case that based on.
	That's the point.
	Duh.
	So I thirst traps.
	I just told you that.
	Yeah.
	So from a TOS.
	I'm going to start doing y'all how y'all doing.
	Y'all like that.
	Okay, just let me talk, though.
	So, Andrew, from a TOS perspective, do you think there's any concerns there?
	Yeah, I wouldn't do it.
	I mean, he's already saying that he's labeling me a sex.
	Who are you?
	We won't.
	So to the viewers, just out of an abundance of caution, we're not going to pull up her OF.
	Yeah, you guys are.
	But okay, I'll just read the little, you know, in an Instagram post, you can put like a little description.
	So the same shit with OnlyFans.
	These are all behind a paywall.
	It's a $25 subscription.
	You have one that says big booty.
	You have one that says titties.
	You have one that says, y'all want to see me take this off?
	Removing your clothes.
	That could go, go subscribe and see what I do.
	Okay, well.
	Seriously.
	You want to find out so bad?
	Want to see it up close?
	Water emoji, kissy face.
	Let's see.
	Body yaddy yaddy yaddy.
	I want to look up to you like this.
	Water splashing emoji, winky kissy face, booty cheeks.
	Would you CUM?
	See me at the club.
	Fresh out the shower.
	Slippery.
	And that's it.
	My dear, you're a sex worker.
	No, I'm not.
	Just.
	No, I'm not.
	You're a sex worker.
	You're a sex worker.
	You do OnlyFans.
	So to the gal who self-identifies as a prostitute.
	Yes.
	Do you take off your clothes if men pay you?
	Yeah, if they, yeah.
	Yeah.
	And does she take off her clothes if men pay her?
	Well, I guess with the, I don't, I haven't seen her OnlyFans, but I guess with I would, yeah, I haven't seen it.
	I mean, even if it's not full nude, would you accept that the man paid you money to take off your clothes, even if it was not the full Monty?
	Well, I'm having, you know, full-on sex with them.
	Yeah, I know, I get it.
	But would you take off your clothes for a client and not show them the rest of your body if that's what they wanted?
	If that's what they wanted, yeah, but usually I sit down and I'm like, hey, we got to do the, you know, it's got to be full union.
	And because then I don't like people leaving the room if they well, I don't like people being like, oh, I paid all this money and then didn't have sex with her.
	Like, I'm like, hey, if you want to.
	Yeah, but if they want to.
	Yeah, but that was if it was the client's request, that's what they liked.
	Oh, that's what they like?
	Okay.
	Yeah, I mean, I would do it.
	Yeah, I would.
	And would you consider yourself less of a prostitute for showing up and only doing that?
	No.
	Well, no, I just, I mean, because I gave them something they like.
	Yeah, I masturbate guys with their fucking money.
	Because you're selling your body for sexual gratification, even if you're not taking off all your clothes and getting penetrated.
	Right.
	I agree.
	Totally agree.
	Couldn't agree with you more.
	Word.
	All right.
	Moving on.
	Moving on.
	Y'all crazy.
	Y'all are wild.
	Shit.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	I'm going to make a couple adjustments here.
	One sec, guys.
	Okay.
	We're going to do.
	I guess all my ladies, if you've got an OnlyFans.
	Remainder of the show.
	TTS is $69.
	I'm going to hide this top one.
	And then we need to do a couple adjustments.
	But remainder of the show, TTS is going to be $69.
	Time permitting, we'll do a brief row session.
	Actually, I think we might stay at $69 for the rest of the show.
	So are all strippers sex workers?
	Yep.
	All strippers are sex workers.
	Interesting.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	Anyways.
	All right.
	Going actually.
	I would go so far as to call all of them prostitutes, personally.
	That's what I consider all sex workers to just be prostitution.
	Even if you only make content with your boyfriend?
	Hold on.
	Yeah, I mean, that's still prostitution.
	I'm changing these neck.
	Oh, man.
	I don't see a way around it.
	Just know that.
	It's not according to these men.
	According to these men.
	Exactly right.
	They're sex workers too.
	Shit.
	She.
	Who are sex workers?
	Wait, oh, can you say catch me outside really quick?
	Just go ahead and do it.
	I know.
	Just say, catch me outside.
	How about that?
	No.
	Come on.
	Are you going to pay me?
	I'll give you three bills.
	I mean, that's what a prostitute would ask.
	Exactly.
	That's what I just said.
	You're going to pay the sex worker?
	By the way, Andrew, you missed the part earlier on in the conversation.
	Maybe you heard a brief part of it.
	So, in order for her to be willing to date a guy and then, well, in order for her to sleep with a guy, the guy has to be willing to pay her rent, her car bill, her utility bill, insurance, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
	You did say that, correct?
	Yeah, I said I don't want to be intimate with anybody.
	They're not trying to provide for me.
	That's just how I feel.
	So prostitution.
	Sure.
	At this point, I guess.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'm like, I guess I could be married to somebody.
	They could be doing all that for me and it's still prostitution.
	I feel like that's more of like a standard, but okay.
	They're going to label it whatever they want.
	I mean, it would be.
	They want to label it gold digging, prostitution, escort.
	They want to say whatever.
	If the only reason that you're married to him is for the material, is for the material exchange.
	So if you were to hit the money, no, that's not it.
	I genuinely date if I like you.
	Okay.
	If I'm going on dates with you, I like you.
	That doesn't mean I'm going to have sex with you.
	Okay.
	But you said you could die with me.
	That doesn't mean anybody can just have sex with me to pay me either.
	That doesn't mean that any guy can just come around, hey, I'll pay your bills.
	And I'm like, yes, oh my God, come here.
	You don't think prostitutes can pick who they sleep with?
	Obviously.
	Duh.
	They can pick who sleep.
	But that's not what a sex work.
	That's not what a prostitute does.
	A prostitute is getting the money in every way she wants to be able to do it.
	Well, listen, I would have to say that I think that if a woman is only with a guy because she gives him money to have sex with him, that she's a prostitute.
	I don't know what that's to say.
	I like the caretaker role.
	It's a more traditional person.
	I want to be with a man who wants to be.
	No.
	Well, I feel like it's a more like traditional caretaker role.
	How is that a traditional role?
	No, listen.
	You can't do stuff for sex.
	You're a prostitute.
	No, it's not.
	I'm on a hanging room.
	Like, oh, my God.
	Okay, so they said that women are supposed to play the role, right?
	This is playing the role.
	It's not that she's fucking them to get money.
	It's like she won't fuck them unless they can really take care of her and pay for her.
	She can pay for herself.
	Yeah, it's not like I need to die to pay my bills.
	She literally gave me all this money.
	But my point was that if it were to be just transactional, I'm only having sex with this guy because of stuff I get.
	No.
	I don't see how that's not prostitution.
	At that point, all traditional relationships are that you'd say.
	You said you would not sleep with me.
	They're not transit.
	They're not transactional.
	Yeah, but how is it all transactional if I like you?
	Traditional.
	It's not transactional because anybody can make a transaction then.
	Traditional.
	Anybody can just make a transaction.
	Like traditional relationships.
	Traditional.
	So that's traditional relationships.
	But you're going to provide.
	You're going to provide and take care as a man, which you should do.
	Y'all patriarchy as man, right?
	And is it y'all's responsibility?
	Y'all with the patriarchy, right?
	Y'all believe in providing for women then?
	Do you believe women?
	You should grow up in that.
	No, you don't.
	Exactly.
	I gotta add, did you where did you grow up with this with the accent?
	Wisconsin.
	I'm from like she's from she's from the mean streets of Milwaukee, son.
	Put some respect back.
	I'm just curious.
	But anyway, Andrew Peter.
	I'm just curious.
	The traditional thing.
	So how is it that housewives are prostitutes again?
	Huh?
	That's what you're saying, right?
	Housewives are prostitutes?
	Well, that's technically.
	No, no, no, that's kind of like what I'm saying.
	Andrew's underscore blocks underscore X underscore W F underscore big underscore Mike donated $69.
	Does a higher body count equate to a better chance of attracting a higher quality husband slash father to your future?
	I feel like having a standard question first.
	Does a higher body count equate to a better no, definitely not.
	But I think that, you know.
	Oh my goodness.
	Eula sees the pagan donated $69.
	Most men that are overly open about their feelings is a grift.
	The purpose take advantage, bang, and then ghost.
	A man that's stoic and logical will respect women and won't play games just to get laid.
	It's beautiful.
	Thank you, Ulysses.
	Sadly, I just think men nowadays are just women.
	But what I was saying.
	Wait, you think what?
	Oh, my goodness.
	I feel like nowadays women need to have a certain kind of standard because I think women end up being put into positions where they have to raise children by themselves and all types of things.
	They're put into positions?
	Oh, my goodness.
	Here we go.
	Mr. Natasha.
	Oh, man.
	My chip slipped into the body.
	Oh, man.
	Listen, yeah, but okay, as a man, if you made a baby with a woman, whether you wanted it or not, it's here.
	You're not taking care of it.
	What does that mean?
	Aren't you pro-choice?
	Yeah.
	Aren't you pro-choice?
	So wait, women.
	Hold on.
	Okay.
	So you're saying that men.
	I'm not saying that.
	No, because I know where you're going to go.
	I know exactly where you're going to go.
	You're saying that men out here are these deadbeats for not wanting to take care of a child, but it's cool for women to be able to.
	That's what you're arguing, right?
	Hold on, hold on.
	Answer the question.
	Actually, say this again.
	Hold on.
	Wait, no, now I'm interested.
	So you have an objection to men being deadbeats, to not being willing to financially provide or be there parentally, custodially, but you're totally cool with women killing the child in the womb.
	I mean, I said I'm pro-choice, but what am I personally okay with is different than other people, but I don't want to judge other people in their situations.
	It's just crazy, man.
	So these pro-choice people are sexual.
	No, like, do I, I mean, shut up.
	These are pro-choice people.
	Oh, my God.
	Anyways, no, but why was it?
	Why?
	No, if a woman gets pregnant, what does that mean?
	You have unprotected sex.
	Okay, so as a man, whether or not you wanted to keep the baby or whether or not the woman wanted to keep it or not, say she did and you didn't want her to.
	Okay, we used to have unprotected sex with her.
	So you still have to own it.
	Let me use that same justification for arguing that women shouldn't get abortions.
	What?
	I didn't say that they shouldn't.
	No, but you said that for you personally, maybe you wouldn't get an abortion, but you're fine with other women getting abortions under those scenarios.
	That same scenario.
	I mean, if a woman wants an abortion, she can get them.
	But it's never okay for a guy to leave the child, right?
	No, they're deadbeats.
	It's only bad.
	What do you mean?
	Either or women could be deadbeats too.
	So what are you talking about?
	I'm confused on how this is.
	I'm confused too, because like, what do you mean?
	I don't understand what she was asking, but.
	Where were we when we were talking about sex work?
	Yeah, what I was trying to say was basically that he was saying that the care, the caretaking, what they said earlier, like that women fall into a role in a traditional relationship and they would fall under the man would be their Bucky Larson donated $70.
	Dear blonde strumpet in pink, go to Brian right now or else you are titled a sex worker.
	Please stop being a strumpet and stop doing only fans.
	Be better and take of yourself.
	Yeah, how good are you doing to give me advice?
	Thank you.
	Bucky Larson.
	Thank you, man.
	I don't know.
	Bucky Larson definitely doesn't make as much money, but it's anyway.
	People who live lives I want to live.
	As make as much money as who.
	She started.
	I thought she started OnlyFans like two weeks ago.
	No, no, not just off of OnlyFans.
	This girl does like.
	Have you even had your first payday yet?
	Yeah, I mean, yeah.
	Can I please?
	I thought it just started two weeks ago.
	Well, no, I've had it for like a month.
	It's been one month.
	Like three weeks too much.
	Why?
	No.
	It's just not tickets like that.
	What are you rolling on your OnlyFans after a month?
	Have $100,000 a month?
	Like, what are you rolling on?
	$100,000.
	You know what I'm saying?
	No.
	Why are you worried about what I make?
	Well, because you're saying that this guy clearly doesn't make as much as you do.
	I didn't say that.
	She said, but I didn't say that.
	I said I don't take advice from people who don't live the life I want to live.
	And I said that.
	I don't know what type of life he lives.
	I don't know who Brian.
	Bucky.
	Whatever.
	Yeah.
	Get his name right.
	Whatever the fuck is going on.
	Oh, my God.
	Bucky Larson.
	But what was I trying to say?
	Yeah, so they fall under the caretaking role, right?
	So by saying that, like, whatever you just said, sorry, I'm like so tired.
	Whatever you just said.
	I do, though.
	You agree?
	Yeah.
	No, I have.
	I don't have an issue.
	Yes.
	Like, drizzle-drizzle.
	Yes.
	Like, women should.
	I don't have an issue with split shit.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Is it you think a traditional relationship is basic?
	That's basically prostitution at this point.
	If the man is the caretaker and paying for shit, which is what they said earlier, a traditional relationship, then basically that's pretty much prostitution.
	You're saying, look, I'm in my relationship itself is not transactional.
	It's not transactional.
	She's worried about a caretaker.
	She didn't say she like fucks for money.
	I never saw that movie you're having.
	It's like money.
	I said I don't.
	That beats me.
	I didn't apply it to you.
	What I said to you specifically was: only if it's purely transactional.
	It's not.
	It's purely transactional.
	I don't like you.
	It's not.
	Oh, boy.
	I don't like you.
	Got you.
	If I don't emotionally like you, then.
	But you won't fuck until he pays for your shit.
	Because I feel like if he invests into me, then it's a less likelier chance that I'm not going to get cheated on.
	Left for freaking dead.
	All that.
	Which.
	Left for dead?
	I mean, would you put like a car payment down for like six months and just like fucking like give it away after all of that work?
	If you sit there and you give us a woman and I'm treating her nicely, I'm taking care of her, right?
	Maybe we do some cool stuff, whatever.
	You're not going to just up and leave this woman.
	I mean, you might, but the chance.
	Are you in a relationship?
	I told you I was single.
	Okay, so I happen in a relationship where my bills were paid.
	Yeah.
	And I was my last relationship.
	$6,969, blah, blah, blah.
	$69 donated $69.
	They love you.
	Josie.
	Do not attend.
	You two at best.
	Quit with your ratchet stuff.
	David.
	You out here laughing as a black woman.
	You are not black.
	We do not want you to hold this asterisk, asterisk, LLLL.
	Okay, cool.
	We should have a conversation about cultural appropriation, I think.
	Okay.
	Oh, man.
	Okay, anyways.
	Okay.
	No, yellow.
	Well, no, like, I'm down.
	That joke.
	Okay, let me know.
	That was so late.
	That was so late.
	Going back to Abigail.
	Abigail, you're married.
	You know, look, I looked on your Instagram.
	Congratulations, Abigail.
	Yeah, she's married.
	She was married.
	20 years old, married.
	At 22.
	I was married at 22.
	Kids coming?
	No, let's see how long we left.
	Eventually, of course.
	Down the road.
	Of course.
	Andrew, do you think she should just start pumping them out now or just wait a couple years?
	I mean, you generally, the earlier, the better for fertility purposes.
	How many kids do you want?
	As many as the husband will allow.
	I can't hear you because you're not talking to the microphone.
	As many as the husband will allow.
	That's a good answer.
	Good answer.
	Anyways, but I don't see you got an Instagram.
	I don't see him anywhere on Instagram.
	Why is that?
	Is he kind of private guy or what?
	Yeah, that's upon his request.
	It's personal reasons for him in his situation.
	He asks me not to post him.
	I absolutely would.
	I tell Everett about him all the time, but he's asked me not to.
	I see.
	Okay.
	Moving on to Kana Trix.
	K-Natrix.
	Well, congrats.
	I'm happy for you.
	May you have many children in many, many years of happiness with your husband.
	Thank you.
	Kay, what's your actual name?
	Kay.
	Kay.
	You said you're the queen of banishment.
	What does that mean?
	I always post borderline stuff on social media, and I always hold on.
	GR underscore Moto underscore FNUND is called Gracie donated $69 to the gross blonde in the middle.
	The men you meet only care about breast size because vanity is the only thing you have to offer.
	Do you want to respond quickly to that?
	And to Michael.
	The men you meet only care about breast size.
	I mean, I've met men before I got my body done, and so successful men.
	I dated a pretty successful man like a year ago.
	I mean, before I had my body done, so I don't really know what you're getting at, but okay.
	It sounds like he's projecting.
	Definitely.
	He's definitely projecting.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Just because you couldn't pull a 10 doesn't mean you should tear other women down who are tens.
	Gracie, you're projecting, dude.
	Stop projecting so much.
	Oh, God.
	This is like sad.
	Like, I almost feel bad for him.
	Thanks for the $69.
	So you like, I think on your Twitter and your Instagram, you say queen of banishment.
	What does that mean?
	That started because I got five TikToks banned on one day, so I made a new one.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	My bio was just queen of banishment.
	And then.
	Because you got banished.
	Yeah.
	And all my other bios just kind of got transferred to that.
	Okay.
	And you do OF, you do.
	Yeah.
	You got a boyfriend, correct?
	Yep.
	Some kids, too.
	Wait, so then there's more than two sex workers, two sex workers in here.
	Since you know, three.
	Well, you got their money.
	Yes.
	So, and you do you shoot content with your boyfriend.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Wait, is your boyfriend the father of the children?
	No.
	The children have the same dad, though?
	They both have different dads.
	Oh, wait, so okay, you have two children.
	But they're both from different dads.
	This is crazy.
	Just want to say to the lifeless blonde, can you please blank a blank a blank for some potato chips?
	Lola.
	Shut up, I don't know.
	I don't like it.
	Wait, are you natural blonde?
	I am, but I have to lighten it now because my hair is.
	Wait, you're natural?
	Oh, okay.
	When I was younger, it was like this color, but I'm like stuck.
	I don't know.
	Do you die?
	Yeyebrows?
	Yeah, that's how you go.
	I like fill them in too.
	Like, my eyebrows are like blonde.
	I'm actually natural blonde, but my eyebrows are being dark.
	My bad, right?
	Oh, and I've been halting my blonde eyelashes.
	Word.
	I can tell you're natural blonde from your skin.
	Wait, so just two kids from stop, guys.
	Sorry.
	So the two kids are the father's in the picture?
	Yeah.
	So it's like split custody.
	Yeah, I married my son's dad and then got divorced, and then my daughter was a surprise.
	But from two different men, correct?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You said you had someone propose after a month and a half.
	Yeah, after I divorced my son's dad, I started seeing this guy, and after literally a month and a half, he had got down on one knee.
	But you rejected his proposal then?
	Yeah.
	I see.
	Okay.
	I told him.
	I told him.
	Oh, you can scoot the mic to the very edge of the table.
	I did not feel comfortable wearing that ring because that was not what I was ready for.
	And he just went.
	Austrian trumpet slayer donated $69.
	Austrian mountain guy watching loves the show, hate the strumpets.
	In Catholic Austria, we got special canyons where we throw them cockgobblers into Christ is Lord.
	Jeez, bro.
	Austrian Strumpet Slayer.
	He's inditing himself.
	Are you like a Viennese?
	Are you more like a PR Aquatic donated $69?
	The black shirt girl.
	Can't criticism.
	Otherwise, does pineapple belong on Pizza?
	That's a good question.
	Show of hands, don't you?
	First of all, yes, it does.
	It's very good.
	I love pineapple on pizza.
	What?
	You guys don't.
	Disgusting.
	All right.
	Good.
	It's not like an olive.
	Sweet and savory.
	Yeah.
	Then both can't criticize it.
	I love the woman hater comment.
	So do you like sex workers?
	You go, no.
	Why do you hate women so much?
	It's just always funny to me, right?
	So he makes an anti-sex worker joke.
	Why do you hate women so much?
	What does that have to do with women?
	What if a guy hates nobody?
	Does he want to throw all the sex workers into the fire?
	I think he's one.
	Dark.
	Whoa.
	I don't got to go that far.
	It's not his business either.
	Like, why are you all up in, like, you donated $69 just to, like, shit on people for making money?
	Like, what if he incriminated himself?
	Oh, my God.
	That's evidence.
	Donka Shine to Australian.
	Not Australian.
	Austrian Strumpet Slayer.
	Thank you, man.
	Donka Shine.
	Oh, also, the other thing.
	I remember what I was going to say during the plastic surgery bit.
	Bucky Larson donated $70.
	Blonde in a blackened to pink shirt trumpet.
	I do very well for myself.
	I'm single, 34, earn over $100,000 as an auto worker in Michigan.
	Better yourselves and don't sell sexy photos for money.
	Level up.
	I'm a student.
	Level up.
	What?
	Where'd he get that from?
	I don't know, I work three jobs.
	You mean you're going to make over $100K?
	Yeah, not a, like, in a year, yeah.
	Do you sell drugs or what do you do?
	I might.
	Oh, shit.
	You never know.
	IRS.
	I hate student.
	Why do I get diagnosed?
	Oh, the plastic surgery thing I was going to say.
	If I ever came into like I just had authoritarian power, like it was just a coup d'état, I would ban, make, I would criminalize plastic surgeons and plastic surgery, like fake titties, felony, BBL.
	Felony.
	Shout out my bad.
	Electric chair.
	Electric chair.
	Electric chair for BBL.
	No, no, no, it's not.
	Lipo felony, lip filler, misdemeanor.
	Although, three strikes, then you get a felony if you get that shit more.
	What else?
	Oh, labia plasty.
	Yeah, death sentence.
	Shoot by hanging.
	You get hanged.
	Am I going to say something?
	No, actually, you get the guillotine because I'm French.
	Okay.
	I'm going to give you the guillotine.
	And then what else?
	What are the other plastic surgeries chicks get?
	I think I hit most of the time.
	Nose job?
	But what about that?
	That's a fine.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, no, no, whatever.
	Yeah.
	Whatever.
	Anyways, okay, that was it.
	That was it.
	Okay, let's see.
	We have some more notes here.
	Kay, going back to Kay, you said you had another dude who wanted to impregnate you and try to talk you to the same guy or different guy.
	Different PR Aquatic donated $69.
	That's the point to make fun of UBC.
	We have the money and you only sell.
	You only sell our body to make money while we work to keep the infrastructure up for you women.
	Hashtag you're welcome.
	I just want to say that I know Aquatic personally.
	One, he saved me from a cougar attack, and two, he actually made a shit ton of money in Dogecoin.
	So, like, for him, this is like literally a penny.
	Yeah, like $69 penny.
	You know, isn't it crazy?
	Is I could be going to charity and not for shitting on some bitches on a podcast.
	You know, he's not.
	Oh, no.
	Instead of you getting fake titties, you could put that shit to charity too.
	I'm not going to get fake titties unless I can afford to donate a lot of people.
	I'm shitting on some bitches on a podcast.
	Why do you hate women so much?
	Why do you hate me?
	Why are you such a misogynist?
	Do I hate women?
	Yeah.
	I don't hate women.
	He just said he's shitting on bitches on a podcast.
	It's like, bad.
	That's a very disrespectful term for women.
	Yeah, why are you calling them bitches?
	Yeah.
	Why are you calling them bitches?
	It wasn't that deep.
	I want you to apologize to every woman here who you just called a bitch.
	I'm so sorry to all of you.
	Please apologize.
	I don't know what people are going to be saying out here.
	I don't know.
	That's like LA Slang.
	LA Slang?
	Yeah.
	Shit, this is Santa Barbara.
	This is 805.
	You in the wrong neighborhood.
	You in the wrong neighborhood to be disrespecting some ladies.
	And I will not stand for that in my neighborhood.
	805 represents SB for life.
	Now we need to talk about cultural appropriation.
	What are you talking about?
	No, I don't know where to go with that.
	805, what's up?
	Oh, he switched back.
	Never mind.
	It's me.
	Anyway, okay, okay.
	Wait, what were we talking about?
	The infrastructure.
	Oh, yeah, bro.
	He made so much in Doge.
	It's all good.
	But you're saying, why not put it to charity?
	Again, you're going to spend like $7 to $10K on some fake titties.
	You already got the 32 Ds.
	Why don't you just put that money to charity?
	There's starving kids in Africa.
	$6,969, blah, blah, blah.
	$69 donated $69.
	The only reason Josie wears panties is to keep her ankles warm.
	Josie out here goggling nuts like I feel bad for myself.
	Be honest.
	Is that what it sounds like, though?
	No.
	Odd shit, okay.
	I mean, I feel it.
	I don't know.
	How are you going to?
	How are you going to.
	There's starving kids in Africa.
	Why are you going to get some fake titties?
	Because someone told me one time: if you can't, like, say you're going to buy a really nice car, don't buy the car unless you can buy two of them.
	So if I can afford some fake titties, $10K, then I'll throw it in.
	You could just put more of that money towards the starving kids in Africa.
	Okay, then I'll put 20 kids, 20,000.
	But why you need fake titties when you could just keep it?
	Because that's not what I want for myself.
	Kids are dying because of you.
	Starving kids right now.
	Criminalize on the rams and watch how fast the childless blonde deletes it and I make 200K.
	300K a month so I can shit on you, little girl.
	Whoa.
	Ooh.
	What?
	How are you going to follow that up with an oo-woo, bro?
	I'm sorry.
	I don't know.
	Wait, where's the oohoo button?
	Hold on.
	Come on, dude.
	Yo, Coolio Somo.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Criminalize OnlyFans.
	This guy makes 200K to 300K a month.
	Damn, dude, how are you making all that money?
	Put me on some game.
	For real, me too.
	$300K a month, dude.
	Put me on some game.
	I can do so much better, right?
	Put me.
	Okay.
	The story of the whole impregnation thing.
	Whorehouse wedding.
	It was a hot mess.
	He was, I didn't know it, but going through a divorce at the time.
	And then I found out later that him and that girl were trying to do IVF.
	Meanwhile, before I knew all that, he was trying to convince me to not get back on birth control when I went to go get my birth control switched.
	And then, like, two months in, he was trying to get me to go get married at the courthouse.
	And it was just an insane deal.
	And he was a psychopath.
	Okay.
	And then you also.
	No, that's it for the nuts.
	Lauren Rosas, Rosas, or is that?
	Yes.
	Oh, we already.
	Okay.
	Body count?
	Let's just go around the table.
	Didn't I guess like 1,500 last time, and now it's like probably 1,100.
	Hey, please don't.
	Please respect a woman over here.
	I love that.
	Please, I saw what you did.
	That was really disrespectful to Lauren.
	She said, hold on.
	Are you going to be a little bit more?
	Because I wasn't ready for that.
	I wasn't ready for that.
	I've been doing this for 10 years.
	Doesn't mean I'm a hater.
	I'm not an aim.
	Please show respect to her and her thousands of people.
	My utmost respect.
	You know why?
	Because at least she's not sitting here at the table being freaking hypocritical like you men are.
	Yo.
	I like the girl when she has every diamond on the bottom.
	Wait, how are we being hypocritical?
	I guess it's double standards.
	What's the double standard?
	Oh, I'm not even.
	Come on.
	Yeah.
	Hypothetical is hypocritical.
	What?
	Wes Watson over here.
	Hypothetical.
	Definitely the comments of I knew his ex.
	What's Callery?
	Yeah.
	The blasted tat.
	Yeah, she lives in San Diego.
	Yeah.
	They're not dating anymore?
	No, I don't think so.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	I don't know the details.
	She was cool, though.
	She's cool.
	Okay.
	Wait, so how are we hypocritical?
	Come on.
	Double standards.
	Tell us.
	What's the double standards?
	I mean, I have to really elaborate now.
	I gotta think.
	Come on.
	You've spoken barely anything tonight.
	I'm giving you the floor.
	Barely anything.
	It's too much.
	I'm over talking at this point.
	I believe in you.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I just feel you guys are a little misogynistic.
	That's all.
	Okay, hold on.
	Okay.
	We gotta do a split here.
	We gotta do a split.
	I'll wait for Nick to get.
	Oh, damn.
	Okay.
	Skylarthy first donated $69.
	Question for the 304s.
	Do you think a sex work keeps pedos and arpists off the streets?
	Also, lady in the back, I would bet one million dollars that your BD is black.
	Okay.
	Black guy?
	He's Native American, actually.
	Oh, okay.
	Like real-life knave from a reservation.
	Like Cherokee or no, he's Nakima.
	He's Ojibwe from the Le Couteré tribe.
	Nice.
	Okay, so you hold on.
	Going back to this, though, you said that we're kind of misogynist.
	First, just so I make sure we're talking about the same thing, can I have you define misogyny?
	I need to Google.
	Hold on.
	The words out of your mouth.
	I mean, I don't know how to do it.
	You use the word.
	I mean, it's like you know what it means, but like you don't know how to explain it.
	It's one of those things.
	But it's like the one-I don't want to say suppression, but like I want to like.
	Do you want to take a crack at it?
	Go ahead, yeah.
	You want me to crack at it?
	Take a crack at it.
	Because I'll elaborate why I feel like it being like that.
	To define it?
	Well, I think it's what's the right word?
	It's not like, I don't want to say put down or like oppress.
	I guess, yeah, I mean, I guess the oppression of women, technically.
	I don't want to say oppress.
	You know the word I'm trying to say.
	There's like a word, but like, I can't think of it.
	Well, so the question again is: how do you define misogyny?
	Wait, hold on.
	I'm tired.
	I zoned this out.
	No, I know I'm like, what did you just say?
	I said, technically, the, I don't know what the actual definition is, but I think it's something around the, I don't want to say oppression of women, but like it's like putting women down because they're women.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, here, how's this for definition?
	I'll just give you a kind of a Google one here: hatred or contempt for or prejudice against women.
	Prejudice.
	That's the word I was saying.
	So, can you give me like what is the definition for the word prejudice?
	Because I just want to make sure when I say this, it's right.
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	Thank you.
	Brian, did you know a wise person once said having a preconceived opinion or feeling, especially an unreasonable or unfavorable one, towards a group or a person?
	I mean, I feel like, yeah, I guess you guys are a little prejudiced towards like, you know, what's the word?
	I guess women.
	Yeah.
	No, but towards plastic surgery, towards a woman wanting a provider.
	I don't think you can be prejudiced towards plastic surgery.
	That would just be preference, right?
	Yeah, how would it be?
	How would it be misogynistic to be against plastic surgery?
	Isn't that more pro-women?
	I don't know.
	Are you against women?
	Are you against men getting plastic surgery?
	Yes.
	But from a dating perspective, I'm interested in women, and so I can speak to my romantic and sexual interest in women.
	And what I find is that you're not going to be able to, for instance, here's a good example.
	You wouldn't say that if a person said, I'm not attracted towards Austrian's trumpet slayer to the moment.
	Hold up for a sec here.
	I am the misogyny.
	Fuck sex work.
	Fuck women and fuck plastic surgery.
	That's how you are, Committee.
	You're welcome, Brian.
	Noviano is shy.
	I'm from Upper Austria all so you got a dumpy.
	Why does everybody keep saying I got a dumpy?
	I don't know.
	Yo, Austrian Donka Shine.
	BBL Jizzy over here?
	Donkey Shine.
	Is that how you say I'm dragging?
	Did you get a BBL?
	Hashtag BBL Brian.
	Are you lying?
	No, I'm just saying.
	Your name, Ryan, would lying.
	So you're probably lying.
	Okay.
	Andrew, I'm going to pause the TTS just briefly here to allow you to have this.
	Yeah, so you would, I mean, if somebody said that they didn't want to, I don't know, date a certain race because they weren't attracted to it, you wouldn't say that that was being prejudiced, right?
	You would just say that that's a preference.
	I mean, that is kind of being prejudiced, isn't it?
	No.
	Really?
	So you think that you should date people you're not attracted to?
	So you won't date somebody because of a certain race.
	So you're not attracted to how they're.
	I don't.
	Yeah, if you're not attracted to people of that race.
	That sounds a little something.
	Yeah, because I don't know.
	I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you.
	So you have to understand if you're talking while I can't actually hear what you're saying, it's just because the way the communication works, because I'm mobile, I'm not in the room with you.
	So my question is: why would it be prejudice to, let's say you weren't attracted to Asian men?
	You just weren't for whatever reason.
	They just didn't do it for you.
	Is that prejudice?
	I think so.
	I don't know.
	I would think that's a generalization because maybe there's one that you know you're like, whoa, you just not one on planet Earth who does it for you that you've ever seen.
	So when somebody says, hey, do you date Asians?
	And you say, no, because I'm not attracted to them because you've never seen one ever that you're attracted to.
	Is that prejudice?
	I would just think it was a generalization.
	I would think it's because they really haven't seen all of them.
	So it's a generalization.
	But I think that, you know, I would say it's a generalization.
	I wouldn't say it's prejudice?
	Yeah, it doesn't seem like it's prejudice.
	Do you think, I mean, you think that that's prejudicial?
	That you're being prejudiced towards a group because you won't date them?
	I don't know.
	I don't know about that.
	I don't know.
	Well, hold on.
	Like, if Brian says he's not ever going to date a trans woman, is he being prejudiced?
	Well, no, that's, you know, I mean, if he dates women, so no.
	I mean, like, you know, biologically, I feel like on a racial standpoint, it kind of is.
	I think it is, but I don't know.
	I think that that's politically correct.
	If you're not attracted to, you know, X-race, why would that?
	I don't understand how that would be prejudice.
	That would just be your preference.
	You're not saying that there's anything wrong with them.
	You're just saying that for you, they don't do it for you, right?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	You don't know?
	Well, okay, hold on.
	Hold on.
	Let's not allow ourselves to get off track here.
	You said that I was prejudiced towards plastic surgery, and that is evidence of my misogyny.
	You guys are definitely misogynists.
	Okay, so once again, I mean, it's just like what that guy said.
	Hold on, define misogyny.
	I told you I can't.
	You're using, okay, you're making an accusation.
	You can't even define the word that you're using.
	Yeah.
	You feel we're misogynistic.
	You guys are.
	I mean, you are.
	I just can't tell you the definition because I'm the type of person that I like to, if I'm going to speak on stuff, I like to at least know what I'm kind of like, whatever.
	I do feel like you guys are.
	I mean, definable.
	So I want to do that.
	I know what, like, feminists.
	Just on the term prejudice, I'm almost done.
	I just wanted to ask you: is it okay or do you think it's being prejudiced if a black woman says she only dates black men?
	Is she being prejudiced towards white men?
	I don't know.
	I'm not really politically.
	I don't know.
	I'm trying to think.
	Yeah, I'm just trying to.
	I don't think there's anything wrong.
	I wish there was just a question.
	I mean, there's nothing wrong with it.
	I don't know if prejudice would, but if you have a either word.
	I think, yeah, I would say general generalization.
	Yeah, that's interesting.
	But see, I feel like that's where the confusion is.
	I wouldn't know how to coin that, actually.
	Do you want to answer the question?
	Yeah, it's just I don't really know.
	I don't know.
	Okay, she doesn't know.
	All right.
	So going back to this, so you used the fact that I'm against plastic surgery as evidence of my misogyny.
	I feel like I'm on trial right now.
	Is he a misogynist?
	Yes or no, guys?
	I just thought y'all misogynists want to have sex with like.
	How about you just answer the question?
	Are you misogynist?
	I don't know.
	I've asked you a different question.
	I definitely feel like.
	I've asked you a different question.
	The question is, how is I feel like if a woman doesn't have the same opinion as you and whatnot, I feel like you have a problem with that.
	So I don't know what you want to define that as, but that's what I have.
	I have a problem with everybody who has a different opinion than me.
	Exactly.
	That's cool.
	And you have an opinion, I have on mine.
	Yeah, I know, but is that misogynistic if I have a problem with everybody who has a different opinion than me?
	I mean, when it comes down to women and how women feel about other women and you have an issue on it, I mean, sure, you can speak your opinion.
	This is America.
	No, no, no.
	But if I have a problem with everybody's opinion, which is different than my own opinion, then that wouldn't be misogynistic because I'm not singling women out.
	I'm saying everybody who disagrees with me is wrong, right?
	He does.
	I mean, wrong by what in your head, but maybe not in theirs.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, who cares?
	It's not a preconceived notion that you're wrong because you have breasts.
	It's a preconceived notion that you're wrong because I don't fucking agree with what you say, right?
	That would be the preconceived notion.
	I mean, I'm confused.
	I think that me, like, a misogynist is somebody that, like, like, kind of just, like, like, stomps on my people's rights.
	Like, doesn't like, it's one thing to desire a woman and feminine women or femininity to stay feminine in a sense where, you know, keeping them.
	How do I decide?
	I think it's just like you, you can't work.
	But I'm like, dude, I like need to.
	And then they're like, oh, well, you need to find a husband.
	I'm like, dude, what if I can't get married?
	Like, what about that?
	Like, can I live my little life over here in my little hole in my little corner?
	Like, can I do that?
	Like, and if someone's like, no, like, that, that's who I would think.
	And then they're like, but I want to fuck you too.
	That's, that's who I want to think.
	I'm not going to, she's, she's walking away now.
	I'm going to want to have a little bit of further back and forth on the misogyny accusation.
	But since she's now gone, we were going around.
	Wait, I have to wait also on the body count thing.
	Who's wait?
	Oh, Allison Ray.
	Okay, that's.
	You already told us about the whole like car thing.
	We already talked about that.
	So you met a guy.
	So basically, the short version of it is, you met a guy on Tinder, you abandoned him 11 hours outside of Texas.
	That was horrible.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	We talked about that.
	You said you'd love to talk about women showing their bodies online, seeking validation and attention from men.
	What did you want to talk on?
	Well, just exactly that.
	I just feel like nobody, it seems like no one wants to, you know, hear it here for my reasons.
	Oh, sorry.
	No one wants to take any criticism.
	I've just seen a lot of runaround mental gymnastic answers, and I'm just not sure it would go anywhere.
	Okay.
	And did you have a history of prior to, I guess, becoming a Christian, did you do any sort of online adult content?
	Not adult content.
	So I was like a hot girl on Instagram and I modeled for Harley Davidson for a few years.
	And after coming to Jesus, I just thought this just doesn't serve me.
	This is not God's nature.
	And I just decided that, you know, if God hates it, so do I.
	And so I took down all my social media.
	Okay.
	And modesty is the way to go.
	And when you converted, were you still a model at the time of your conversion?
	Well, it's kind of hard to explain.
	It's just hard to explain.
	It kind of happened over a few months, but as I was reading the Bible and getting through it all, because I had a dream from God, that's like what started it.
	After going through the Bible, I'm just curious.
	I started feeling conviction over a few months.
	Were you a model when you converted?
	I mean, I guess you could say so.
	Yeah, were you still working for Harley-Davidson as a model?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And so they were paying you to model for them.
	Yeah, it just wasn't an overnight thing.
	It took like a few months to get to the conclusion of, okay, I do believe in Jesus.
	I have baptized as part of your conversation?
	Well, I have been baptized.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	When you got baptized after your, was that after your conversion or before your conversion?
	You're getting blocked by the mic.
	Sorry, what did you say?
	Was your baptism pre-conversion?
	No, it was after.
	But at the time of your baptism, were you working as a model for Harley-Davidson?
	Absolutely not.
	Got it.
	Okay, so what's happening is you're slowly converting to Christianity.
	You're a model for Harley-Davidson.
	But at the time you actually did convert, you were no longer working as a model, right?
	Right.
	Okay, and did you quit that job or were you removed from that job or whatever?
	I quit that job with nothing else backup, and I did it because I just put faith in God, and he did provide me another job, which is the job I have to this day.
	Got to move on.
	And you wanted to also talk about sex outside of marriage, correct?
	Yeah.
	What did you...
	I mean, it would be for the other girls and their opinions.
	I think mine's obvious.
	Well, what is your just, why don't you state your position and the girls can respond?
	Oh, okay.
	Well, I guess I just wanted to know for anyone who only those who claim to be a Christian, anyone who does not claim to be a Christian, like I don't think she does.
	What about oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You're not a Christian, right?
	No.
	Okay, so it's not for you.
	Okay, so anyone who claims to be a Christian, what is their viewpoint on sex outside of marriage?
	And if you do it, why do you think that that's okay in the eyes of God?
	Like, what is the justification?
	I mean, I guess I grew up Christian, but honestly, my family was never like super, Christian.
	Like, they weren't like, then I had my grandma, she was Catholic, so they were super, super Christian as well.
	But honestly, like, sex outside of marriage, like, I don't know, like, everyone, like, does their own thing.
	I don't think there's anything wrong with it, like, honestly, because it's like, if anything, like, you could, you could wait until marriage and then have sex during marriage, but then you could still get, like, like, something bad could still happen, and then you guys would get divorced, and it would just be like that.
	But I respect it.
	Like, I have friends who are waiting until marriage and stuff like that.
	And, like, sometimes, like, I wish I did, but then, like, to each their own, like, everyone is different.
	Like, I don't want to bash anyone for anything like that.
	So, my understanding is you're waiting until marriage, correct?
	As of now, yes, I am.
	But you are not a virgin, though.
	No.
	Okay.
	Well, I don't think there's anything wrong with that from the Christian worldview, but from more like a secular dating perspective.
	Yeah, I have a question.
	Do you think if a man didn't want to wait until marriage?
	Wait, please, into the mic.
	Because he didn't want to wait for something that another man didn't have to wait for?
	Do you think that's a valid feeling for him?
	Totally.
	Yeah.
	I think if it's, you know, who God wants me to be with, he wouldn't feel that way.
	And he's probably, you know, in the same boat I am.
	Fair enough.
	Have you faltered since becoming a Christian?
	Have you faltered on this waiting till marriage thing?
	Not with like actually doing it, but like with flirting and stuff like that and kind of seeking attention from guys a little bit.
	I've fallen a few times a couple years ago, but.
	How long have you been celibate for?
	About four years.
	Okay, that's commendable.
	I guess the thing that always, I mean, again, it makes sense if you've, I guess, become a Christian.
	On one hand, women should certainly, like, if they can change up, move in a better way, it's commendable.
	But I would raise massive eyebrows if like a girl had previously slept with 5, 10, 15, 20 guys relatively quickly.
	This doesn't even necessarily have to do to wait until marriage.
	These girls, like in your case, right?
	These girls who have had one night stands, they've never actually had the standard at any previous point in their life, but then they're going to now use sex as leverage to get something from the man.
	This could be commitment.
	It could be providing.
	It could be, you know, you said you want a guy to pay your rent, pay your car bill, et cetera, et cetera.
	I kind of, while you women are free to do this, my counter advice to men is, I don't think that's an acceptable, a dynamic you ought to accept.
	And so, what I mean by that is, you shouldn't even, you should just move on to a different girl.
	That's not a girl that I think is really worth dating, to be honest.
	Now, if you're a Christian, that's different.
	But if you're just like some secular chick or even like sort of uh, you know, don't really take the faith that seriously, I don't know.
	To me, it's kind of ridiculous.
	Look, if you can find a guy that's willing to wait, that's totally cool.
	But I think it's kind of a raw deal for like, oh, the past ten that you fucked a dude a week ago, you let him hit it first night, and now, oh, babe, I want to wait for three months.
	I don't know, it doesn't like for Christianity or like for outside of Christianity, like secularity.
	Yeah, it's just uh, because it's one thing if it'll be the standard for the rest of your life.
	Oh, all the time.
	A girl will be fucking a guy, but she won't have commitment with him.
	She'll be fucking a guy she never waited for.
	She fucked him the first night.
	Fuck buddy friends with benefits.
	She'll be dating a guy who she sees long-term potential in.
	While fucking him, she'll make him wait.
	So while she's getting dicked down by a dude who's never going to give her commitment, she'll be simultaneously dating a guy and making him wait and jump through hoops.
	And oh, you gotta do the chivalrous thing.
	And like, so that's where it gets really ridiculous to me.
	Just feel like if you like him, you want to be in bed with him immediately.
	Anyways, a couple chaps.
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	Thank you, bro.
	If you took all the money spent on unnecessary plastic surgery in the history of this planet and the money used to fix those surgeries, everyone would have food in the world.
	Well put.
	Yeah, the cosmetic industry, trillion dollar, trillion-dollar industry.
	Making some things with those like Ferraris and I don't believe in Van and Joshua.
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	Pink shirt, ghetto blonde with the smelly coot.
	She deaf doesn't date Ajans.
	She's just attracted to the brothers for their soul and not PC the 304 is a pee-pee enthusiast.
	Now stop beating down women.
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	I date anybody I find tragic.
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	Thank you, bro.
	Sex outside marriage is degenerated and sinful.
	Repent and your time in purgatory may not be eternal.
	Also, using logic and speaking, the truth is not misogyny.
	Stop using buzzwords.
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	We need some holy water.
	Simplify.
	We do need help.
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	Many transgender people will exclusively only date biological people.
	Does that make them transphobic by their own criteria?
	Of course it doesn't.
	Why it's nonsense.
	No one is owned sex.
	Yeah.
	Well put.
	Well put.
	So I guess to bring it back to this, so you were making, or you made the statement that we're misogynistic.
	I asked you to define misogyny.
	I'd still like to give you an opportunity to define it just to make sure we are talking about the same thing.
	Or did the definition today Andrew, is that sufficient?
	Yeah, I think into the mic.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, I think what Andrew gave was sufficient.
	I don't really want to say that.
	Whether that's hatred or contempt or prejudice against women.
	Yeah, maybe.
	I don't know.
	I just think you guys, like I said earlier, it's this must seem.
	Maybe you're not misogynistic.
	I don't know.
	But what?
	But, you know, you guys have your opinions.
	And I have my own.
	Well, okay, don't weasel out of a statement that you made.
	I'm not weaseling out of it.
	I'm you just said you don't want to talk about it.
	I don't want to anymore.
	I'm good.
	Well, okay, so I feel like it's only fair.
	I've been debating with you guys for six hours.
	It's only fair since you've thrown out an accusation.
	Accusations of misogyny are very serious.
	So you ought to at least defend it instead of just Buck Keelasum donated $72.
	Question for everyone, including Brian and Andrew.
	If a woman takes longer than 30 minutes to put makeup on her face with no distractions, does she have a cake face?
	I don't know.
	I'm not.
	What's a cake face?
	Like, just caked on way too much makeup.
	Probably, but I mean, I suppose she could take a lot of time and not?
	I don't know.
	Probably how artsy she is with it.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, I'm not going to let you weasel out of this just as easily as you just threw out this accusation.
	So why don't we actually have a conversation about it instead of kind of trying to weasel out?
	Why don't you just make your case, make your argument?
	I don't have a case to make.
	Well, okay.
	Here's the words that came out.
	Here's the words that came out of your mouth.
	You guys are misogynist.
	Okay.
	And I asked, define misogyny.
	You kind of didn't really do that.
	So fine.
	We've defined misogyny.
	How are me and Andrew misogynist then?
	Maybe it's because, like, I don't know, every conversation that we've kind of had tonight, which isn't necessarily misogyny, has been kind of catered toward men.
	So you're like, you women, this, you, women, that.
	Exactly.
	She got an example.
	She got, oh, you women get dicked down or whatever.
	Like, that was what?
	You just said that.
	You said that.
	Give me the context.
	You said women sum up and get dicked down.
	They'll make this guy away while they're getting dicked down by this guy.
	It's just like all your conversations.
	Hold on.
	All your conversations are about women and what women are doing wrong and nothing about men and what y'all are doing.
	Like, women are doing that.
	That's okay.
	Hang on.
	He was responding to a question.
	So she asked a question.
	She said, wait, they do that?
	In this particular case, the context was about women who have had many sex partners previously and then suddenly become chased with a man who they're interested in.
	And a woman asked Brian, they do that.
	And Brian, who has a lot of experience talking to these women, said, Oh, yeah, they do it all the time.
	She's like, A, B, C, and D.
	And here's the example of that.
	So he's still giving only the specific criteria to those kinds of women.
	That's not a broad generalization for all women.
	It's only the women specifically who are engaged in that activity.
	Well, Andrew, I don't even think it's that.
	She actually takes objection to the specific phrase of getting dicked down.
	Well, it's just like, I mean, like, would you go.
	You've never said that before?
	Not if I was like, you were like dead ass.
	What?
	You were dying.
	You just said, why are you talking shit to bitches?
	That's what you said.
	No, that's what I'm saying.
	Like, you guys are like nagging on me for saying that, but then you're like, oh, like, she got dicked down.
	Like, would you say that to your mom?
	Why?
	Nobody said anything.
	I feel like a lot of this conversation was very difficult.
	You're going in circles.
	I asked the men and why women in today's society and like our thoughts and stuff like that, why it's wrong, but it's like no conversation.
	Here's the further context for the conversation.
	She wanted to talk about waiting until marriage.
	It was perfectly contextual.
	I feel like there's just like other ways to say it because I said bitches and then y'all were like, oh, that's miswood like or not miswad.
	And they were offended at all.
	To be honest, like we didn't, we didn't actually care that you said that.
	We were just basically saying that.
	No, I know.
	That's basically pointing.
	We were just basically pointing out if you're going to tone police, we'll tone police back, right?
	Like, I didn't actually give a shit that you said bitches.
	I thought it was funny.
	I was just pointing out.
	I'm not tripping about the tone police both ways.
	It's cringe, correctly.
	So is any girl here actually offended?
	Was offended when I used the term getting dicked down.
	Not really, but that's a good idea.
	Is any girl here offended?
	Were you offended?
	That's not a good idea.
	Were you offended?
	No, I wasn't offended, but even if I wasn't.
	Even if any of us were offended, the definition of misogyny isn't offending a lot of women.
	The definition of misogyny is having a prejudice against women.
	He doesn't like plastic surgery.
	He doesn't like these specific things, but he doesn't have a prejudice against all of the conversations.
	So you're not misogynistic, but you know, it's definitely something going on with like you're like dancing around like the line.
	No, I think what is going on.
	That's what she's trying to explain.
	Okay, explain.
	I think that maybe you got a problem with, which is okay.
	I mean, I got a problem with it too, and that's why I'm talking about it.
	A problem with what?
	Can I even speak?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Okay, thank you.
	Why are you guys like mad?
	Like, I'm going to talk.
	You just interrupt me.
	Anyway, get me off my train of thought.
	Yeah, so you don't.
	I can't even speak.
	Well, I'm not sure.
	You can't actually.
	No, because what I want to say, what I want to say is, yeah, exactly.
	No, I do.
	I do.
	I feel like I don't want to accuse you of interrupting me.
	I just feel like you're being rude.
	Just answer the question.
	No, I can take my time to answer this question if I feel like it.
	Thank you.
	Anyway, I think that you just have a problem with maybe women's in today's society or like social media or just all that type of stuff.
	I think you have a problem with that.
	And I feel like women, especially women who are in my lane of a type of thought pattern, I feel like are more like this because we gave a lot to men and didn't receive the best experience.
	Now, that doesn't mean every man is like that.
	I'm not categorizing all men.
	I'm not saying all men need to pay your rent or something like that.
	But what I am saying is I don't feel like there's anything wrong with my wanna go about it.
	I feel like you have an issue with it.
	It's just opinion.
	And that's all I was saying earlier: it's y'all's opinions.
	It's just the way that we have it.
	It's y'all's opinions and misery.
	That's what we have with women.
	Okay.
	Yeah, and that's what I said.
	So you said that my views on social media, again, you call women misogyny.
	You called us misogyny.
	And I just took it back.
	If you didn't hear me, I took it back three fucking times.
	Okay.
	I said, maybe you're not misogynist, but you have an opinion.
	And that's the only thing I'm like really debating with you is that I'm agreeing with you to disagree with you.
	That doesn't even make sense.
	Not social media.
	I think she's just talking about women.
	It's not like it makes sense to you.
	It's not like we were offended.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, I was going to say, I think, yeah, like, I think misogyny is more like stopping someone's or not wanting someone to be able to sustain themselves and then be a woman and then won't have sex with them anyways.
	That's what I think misogyny is, but I don't think.
	Yeah, I don't.
	So I'm just a little confused.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Like, I just want to say that.
	Then what are the things I've said that you have an issue with?
	I mean, I don't care.
	If it's not misogyny.
	I don't know.
	I just feel like it's been kind of like, I don't want to say cater toward men, but you're like, oh, and the exact thing.
	21% of men, blah, blah, blah.
	Like in this situation, men, okay, so you women would rather be in the forest with a bear.
	Like, you guys are so wrong for that because, like, I don't know.
	It's just like people have different opinions.
	Yeah, that's very much how I said.
	Like, bitches, like, that was like why men are right and women are wrong.
	That's what I feel like.
	I feel like you're very against women being like, let me get my body done.
	Let me be this type of person.
	So I'll engage you.
	Hold on, one thing at a time.
	One thing at a time.
	Okay.
	So you said I'm against.
	Well, I have to interrupt you because you list out 30 different criticisms and I can, it just, I don't know, Andrew, if you call that gish galloping or whatever.
	I can only address one point at a time.
	So why don't we address this whole me being against plastic surgery?
	How is that misogynist?
	I didn't say it was.
	I just.
	When I asked you earlier.
	Yeah, I'm not going to keep repeating myself.
	Thank you.
	Okay, so you object to me, then you just blanketly, in a general sense, just object to me being against plastic surgery.
	Which is fine because you're a proponent of plastic surgery.
	I'm against plastic surgery.
	Yeah, I mean, it's not just plastic surgery, but it's whatever I said.
	It's really just anything like in a feminist type of viewpoint you don't agree with.
	That's what I feel like.
	How is it feminism, though?
	What?
	Like the whole body empowerment or, you know, my body, my choice.
	I mean, he even said it earlier.
	It's too thin.
	Feminism, sure.
	Like that it's, you know, from makeup.
	And he has a good point with that.
	I'm definitely, I agree with it.
	But at the same time, you know, I don't know.
	I feel like we have the choice to do what we want.
	We live in a free country.
	So I don't think you should be able to, you know, just like, mmm, somebody.
	I don't know the word.
	I'm trying to think of the word, but it's just like you just say.
	The gal with the red hair who's who's sitting, you know, one gal over.
	Yeah, yeah.
	She's actually probably far more misogynistic than Brian is.
	Wait, what?
	You think I'm misogynistic?
	Well, no, I think you would be considered more misogynistic than Brian.
	So, I mean, even the original women sitting to the right of me are definitely a little bit more misogynistic than you guys are.
	I would agree with that.
	Wait, what?
	Yeah, I'm not.
	I think so.
	I think feminism is a lie to trick women into hating themselves.
	So then what is misogyny?
	So then what is misogyny?
	Let's talk about men.
	Let's stop talking about women.
	How about we talk about men for once?
	Let's talk about men.
	Because that's what we don't do.
	We don't talk about men.
	We've just been talking about women.
	We're not talking about men.
	men dying in war I just realized like earlier it's like that's my favorite topic Let's talk about it.
	Let's talk about men.
	Go ahead.
	The thing that you just got done saying that you didn't want to talk about at all because all the show has been talking about men.
	Now you're like, why don't we talk about the men?
	Okay, let's do that then.
	Okay, start it off.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	I'm sorry, but it's absurd to me that you're like, in the one side of your mouth, you go, I can't believe that all these women's issues you keep on making it into are talking about men.
	And then when we get down to an issue you want to talk about, you say, I want to talk about men.
	I mean, so what she was saying, she was saying how, like, something about feminism.
	And so I said, talk about misogyny.
	Like, if feminism is a, would you say it was a trick?
	Yeah, I do think that women are deceived with this whole feminine movement.
	So then how do you feel about misogyny then?
	How do I feel about it?
	How do you feel about it?
	Obviously.
	You don't have an opinion?
	No, of course I have an opinion.
	Misogyny is bad.
	It's a prejudice against women.
	For no other reason than just them being women.
	Of course that's bad.
	What's wrong with feminism?
	It's just a lie.
	It just takes a while.
	One quick thing.
	You do realize that you can be anti-feminist and not be a misogynist.
	Sure.
	Being anti-feminist is not being anti-women.
	Go ahead with your point.
	Thank you.
	It was political stuff.
	I forgot where I was at.
	I just get.
	Well, I think feminism is a trap.
	And no, I'm not misogynistic.
	I absolutely want the best for women.
	I have my opinions on what is best for women, and feminism completely goes against that.
	Obviously, I believe in the Bible, and I believe in those gender roles, and I believe that women are nurturers and would be better off, you know, submitting to their husbands.
	So then is it wrong for me to not want to submit to a man that he's providing for me?
	No, Let's go into like prostitution.
	I do, let me get this straight.
	I do think men should provide for women and women should submit to their husbands and nurture the children.
	That's completely.
	And that's how I feel as well.
	I feel like you want me to raise your family.
	You want me to have your kids.
	You want me to do all this?
	I do have a question.
	I'm going to be intimate with you.
	Then I want you to provide for me.
	And I don't feel like there's anything wrong with that.
	And I feel like it's wrong to sit here and call me a prostitute for that.
	I have a question for you.
	You called taking care of me.
	I have bills.
	So, yeah.
	And there's a lot more.
	There's an emotional level of taking care of me.
	There's a physical level of taking care of me.
	And there's a financial and spiritual level.
	So I'm going to untie a couple of concepts for you.
	So nobody was calling you a prostitute.
	Hang on.
	Not for the idea that you want to be taken care of by a man.
	What was asserted to you?
	Before he even knew I had OnlyFans, he called me a sex worker.
	Yes, yes.
	That's different, though.
	That's why I'm going to untunt work.
	Yes, you did, actually.
	I did not call you a sex worker.
	That's why I'm going to untangle this for you.
	You're taking two.
	Yeah, I know.
	Okay, when you're done, let me know, and then I'll untangle the concepts for you.
	Go ahead.
	What?
	No, really.
	Okay, great.
	You're done.
	So to untangle the concepts for you, concept one, yes, if you're an OnlyFans worker, you're considered a prostitute.
	Yes.
	I would agree that that is what was said.
	But when it came to the relationship, what was asserted to you was if it's only transactional, if the relationship is purely transactional, then it would be prostitution.
	And I said multiple times it wasn't transactional.
	Yeah, I know, which is why we weren't calling you a prostitute for that.
	We're just saying if it were purely transactional, that would be prostitution.
	Probably because he said I was, he said earlier I had sugar daddies and da-da-da, which I said, no, I don't have sugar daddies.
	I'm looking for somebody to provide for me.
	I wasn't here for that part of the project.
	Exactly.
	So when he called me a sex worker earlier, before he even knew I had an OnlyFans or anything like that, then by what you guys are saying, I'm not.
	So I think that's what I'm saying.
	Yeah, well, I wasn't here for that conversation then.
	Because I didn't hear him moving.
	I think it's very sugar daddies to you while I was here.
	Well, I think it's funny that when we put it in a certain sense of like in almost like a religious standpoint, all of a sudden it's okay.
	But when I was saying it earlier in a different point standpoint, because I'm not the most religious person, now all of a sudden I'm a sex worker and I have sugar daddies and all this crazy stuff.
	So I didn't say anything about you.
	You didn't have sugar daddies.
	I said you did.
	I said you're friendly.
	Yeah.
	No, what I'm saying is that if you have a relationship with a man which is purely transactional, you're only getting resources in exchange for sex.
	I don't know what to call that except prostitution.
	Yeah, and I said multiple times that it wasn't purely transactional.
	Which is why I didn't call you a prostitution for that or a prostitute for that.
	I actually didn't call you a prostitute.
	I asked you.
	You were sex worker and you said I had sugar daddies earlier before you even knew how to.
	I didn't call you a sex worker.
	I asked you when we were talking about your whole relationship thing and you wanting to wait until a guy starts providing, et cetera, et cetera.
	I asked you something along the lines of look, we've talked a lot.
	If I recall correctly, could be wrong.
	I asked you, isn't that prostitution?
	Or how is that not prostitution?
	Yeah, and I said, I'm not out working on a corner.
	If I recall correctly, I don't think we're on a back page or anything.
	I called you a prostitute.
	I asked, how is that not prostitution?
	It's not prostitution.
	It's a standard.
	But how?
	How is it?
	If you feel like a man should provide, and I want to submit to my man, but I want to be taken care of, and I want him to provide for me.
	How is that prostitution?
	Just as a caretaker.
	But see, hold on.
	You're changing things up a little bit because the original framing was hold on.
	I understand I didn't say the word submit earlier, but that doesn't mean that's not what I want to do.
	This is my man.
	Just let me finish, okay?
	So.
	And I did make a clear.
	You said something along the lines of it.
	It'd be very hard to get rid of something else.
	Just listen, just listen.
	You said something along the lines of, I will not have sex with the man until he pays my bills.
	Something along those lines.
	I don't know if that's verbatim.
	The way that came out, I will not have sex with the man until he pays my bills.
	Ladies said something.
	Is that what you said to me?
	No, that's what you said to me.
	I said, I want to be taken care of.
	Like, that's pretty much the caretaker process.
	That's something to be taken care of.
	So, and then you wanted, no, then you made it going back to your, you know, whatever it is that you're doing on this podcast, like, trying to to women who feel some type of way or who believe in what I believe in type of vibe.
	What do you believe in?
	Yeah, what do you believe in?
	I'm, oh my God.
	I already said it 20 times on this.
	I mean, in a relationship.
	What are we talking about?
	Relationship?
	Religion?
	I already talked about both of that.
	So just go back.
	Go back 20, 30 minutes, two hours, three hours.
	If you want to know.
	I'm just saying, how is like her wanting her bills to be?
	Wait, I kind of want to change up the seating arrangement really quick.
	Wait, so okay, I just, I don't know, because I'm probably going to leave soon.
	Here, we're almost done.
	I want you and you.
	Can you guys take those seats and then I'm going to put you in that seat, okay?
	Can I have you guys just shift over?
	And then, but take the seats.
	We're going to let a couple chats get through.
	So you sit in that middle.
	Like, just sit in the seats.
	So you sit in that seat, you sit in that seat, and I'm going to move you into that.
	Yeah, you here.
	Okay, here.
	You there, and then you over there.
	Okay.
	Just because, yeah.
	All right, I'm going to let a couple chats go through.
	PR Aquatic donated $69.
	The pink shirt is a sponge.
	She doesn't know anything besides her friend talking for her to make sure she doesn't look stupid.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Aquatic.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, bro.
	Good to see you, bro.
	He saved me from a coyote attack once.
	Just saying, guys.
	Coolie Somo donated $69.
	Why is it the blonde lady's doing all the screaming I want to hear?
	The Latina lady, and she's the only one I need in my life.
	And I think I'm watching angels versus demons.
	Coolio Somo, good to see you in the chat, man.
	Do you have a different opinion?
	New name.
	They got different opinions.
	That's why I remember that.
	They got the different opinions.
	Can you scoot into the Tilly4illy $1,337 donated $69.35?
	Imagine the ignorance for a woman to choose a bear.
	Its natural instinct is to eat you.
	Whereas a man's natural instinct is to protect the woman.
	Psychology 101.
	Your perception is the problem.
	LOL.
	That's nice.
	Nickelodeon donated $69.
	Brian, how dare you invite these women on and not pander to them and dollar kiss them until you get pink eye?
	Don't you know you're supposed to cuddle them and make them feel special?
	Feminist equality.
	Well put, dude.
	That's pretty much a perfect assessment of.
	I mean, why be rude to any person?
	Not female, male, anybody.
	So.
	You can spread positivity.
	Amanda underscore the underscore medtech donated $69.
	Seriously, blondie bobblehead.
	I'm making y'all money tonight.
	Let others speak for once.
	You try to assert your dominance by talking over every.
	I don't even want to talk.
	It's not much of a mystery why you're single to be love you.
	Their attitude sucks.
	It's like those kids on the playground, like if they kind of bullied the girl if they like.
	David Tosechiak donated $69.
	Brunette with blonde hair, black pick on.
	What did you mean by Ferrari?
	An equivalent to fake body.
	One is art, one is unnecessary mutilation with health consequences.
	I don't think you got my point on that.
	My point was if you're going to donate to charity, he said, oh, why would you spend $10,000 on a BBO when you could donate to charity?
	Then why would you buy a $60,000 car if you could donate that to charity?
	That was my comparison.
	I wasn't comparing body mutilation to cars.
	Exactly.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let's do the bumble segment.
	We'll line the mood a little bit.
	Tonight, this show's been very adversarial.
	Andrew, before we do the bumble segment, did you want to touch on anything?
	Oh, wait, we didn't do body count.
	Lauren.
	I said I had a thousand.
	Go ahead, Lauren.
	I have 1,100.
	That's, I think, more than last time, because I, yeah.
	Wait, Andrew, why are you making that face, Andrew?
	Andrew, I've been doing this for 10 years.
	Okay.
	Should we get a split on?
	Oh, okay.
	His eyes.
	Say it again, Lauren.
	I have 1,100.
	I heard you.
	Say it one more time.
	1,101.
	Oh, oh, okay.
	How many of those are from the whatever podcast?
	The 101.
	Can you say that?
	Here's what's crazy.
	At the beginning of the show, she said that like over 100 people from the podcast got her services.
	Yeah, they see, they're like, I see whatever.
	And I was like, cool.
	Okay.
	Anyways.
	Yeah.
	So going around the table, what's your body count?
	I could not tell you.
	Do you want to give us a range?
	Under 20, I know that.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Into the mic?
	Two.
	Wait, wasn't that one last time?
	My boyfriend, who I had for one year and a half, and then I spoke on the last podcast how I was sort of in a situationship, and like, I don't know.
	I just was treated so terribly.
	I had sex with him, and I thought that would make him stay, but no.
	Wait, and so, wait, last time?
	No, last time I did say two.
	Yeah.
	I feel weird sharing that online, but it's single digits.
	Okay.
	One.
	Your husband.
	My husband.
	All right.
	I feel the same way.
	I feel weird sharing it online.
	Range.
	How about the range?
	Zero.
	Be a good sport.
	Oh, she's a little bit of a maculate conception over here, her child.
	Yep.
	That's a Jesus baby, or that's Jesus right there.
	I'm just kidding.
	How about the range?
	Tell us a range.
	Single digits.
	Okay.
	four austrian's trumpet slayer donated 69 Feelings are not opinions.
	Experiences are not facts.
	These women's inability to present or using basic logic makes me more angry than Brian calling me Australian.
	G'day, mate.
	Trimp on the Barbie.
	Listen, why don't you go get some Vegemite and put it on some bratwurst?
	What?
	I don't even know.
	So bad.
	Okay, we're going to do the bumble thing.
	What?
	$1,100?
	Yeah, one and one.
	Wait, and why did you say capitalize on PR Aquatic donated $69?
	Wait, genuinely.
	Been misogynistic for not catering to your needs, PC.
	You bring nothing to the table besides nonsense.
	God damn.
	Why did I say cat?
	Yeah, when I said four.
	Multiply by three.
	I was with the guy from two.
	That's the real number.
	Did you hear that?
	Hold on, I'll play it one more time.
	Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
	So it's a rule.
	It's a law.
	It's a law of physics.
	So nine?
	Three times three ways.
	Let me do the math on that.
	Hold on.
	Nine.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So it's nine now?
	Huh?
	So it's nine now.
	I mean, that's the law.
	Oh, okay.
	I guess then you have to die.
	And for guys, you divide by three.
	Oh, that's sad.
	So if a guy's not.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	Is four times three, nine?
	Four times three is 12.
	Oh, shit.
	Dude, I'm so bad at math.
	Oh, my God.
	It's 12 now?
	Dude.
	Yo.
	How did I go up like that?
	You thought four times three was nice.
	I haven't slept in like 30 hours.
	She have not slept in 30 something hours.
	I'm tired.
	It's okay.
	I'm really bad.
	I missed it too.
	She.
	That's why.
	Hey, I brought math to the table.
	No, I knew I got everything down there.
	Oh, no, I knew I got it wrong.
	I was just trying to play it off because I don't have the brain cells to correct myself right now.
	That's right.
	I just must have thought it was three or something.
	Okay.
	I guess it's 12 now.
	All right, we're going to do the bumble segment.
	You each get 20 swipes.
	We're going to show you some eligible bachelor's, single, single, single relationship.
	Can I, yeah, can I question?
	Can I?
	I don't like to say no without a reason.
	Can I just give a no and then the reason why?
	Because I don't want people to feel like I'm rejecting them.
	Just a teeny one.
	If you do, just like, don't like his hair.
	Like, brief?
	Totally fine.
	Brief.
	Oh, that's good.
	Gotcha.
	Because I just don't want to seem like I'm just.
	Give a reason.
	You can give a reason.
	Just, you know.
	Yeah.
	A little reason.
	Yeah.
	A brief reason.
	All right, whenever you're ready.
	So, age range of men you would date?
	Probably 30 to 40.
	With age range of men, I guess, yeah.
	That you would date, you know?
	Maybe like 28, 29.
	Not really, though.
	Ew.
	I'm sorry, man.
	He looks like a nice guy.
	No, he does.
	He could be really cool, actually.
	I need to meet him.
	I can't.
	I don't do online dating for very specific.
	Okay.
	It's hard to.
	No.
	Looks like a nice young man.
	No.
	Do I even...
	No.
	He kind of looks cute.
	Sure.
	I got a date with him.
	I'm posing with a pumpkin.
	Did you exit?
	I said yes to him.
	We're just passing on everybody, but.
	No to him.
	No.
	I don't think so.
	No, no.
	No.
	That guy was kind of the child.
	But no, you can't say yes to the dog.
	No.
	Sorry, Chris.
	No.
	Fresno State.
	Chris again.
	no no no no no who is it who is it who is it if it's the one If it's the one with the blue shirt, I might let him take me on a date.
	He seemed cool.
	He seemed nice.
	That's 20.
	Age range of guys you would date?
	I'd say anywhere from 19 to 23.
	Maybe like 20 to 23, I guess.
	I don't know.
	Is that work?
	I don't know how this works.
	She said 19 to 23, right?
	Okay.
	No.
	Really?
	Wow.
	No.
	Never.
	No. No. No. Oh my. No.
	She was thinking about it.
	No, I was like scared.
	No.
	He looks nice, but no, I'm sorry.
	What?
	Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
	No?
	No.
	No.
	The girls or the guy?
	The guy.
	The guy.
	Everyone.
	You know what?
	No. No. No. No. No. No.
	I think I went to high school with him.
	That's crazy.
	That's crazy.
	No, no, no, what is going on?
	No.
	Are we going until I like say yes to him?
	How many is that, Nick?
	Wait, did she say yes to did you say yes to anybody?
	Okay, all right.
	No.
	That's 10%.
	Okay, so we'll do an extra 10.
	Yeah, you get if you don't say yes to anybody, you get an extra 10.
	Go ahead.
	No. No. No. No. No.
	Oh my god!
	That's scary.
	Oh, fuck.
	The bug's back.
	No.
	Let me fuck that shit up.
	No.
	I don't like flying animals like that.
	Oh, insects in me.
	Oh.
	No, I didn't know everything, right?
	Oh, my God.
	Yo, it's kind of like dive bombos, bro.
	Don't go in my hair.
	I can't see you from there.
	No.
	Okay, bug is that.
	No.
	Just ignore it.
	Just ignore it.
	No, we can't even see his face.
	That's an extra 10 minutes in action.
	We keep going.
	I'm really picky.
	Oh my god, we'll be here all night.
	No No No No Choose somebody No No.
	Sorry.
	No, no, no, y'all this bug is like, no, no, no.
	Oh, my God.
	I can't.
	I like his tattoos, but no.
	No.
	No.
	Which one?
	Not hot one.
	Either.
	Not hot one.
	No.
	No.
	Oh, he was cute.
	He was.
	He went no.
	No.
	No.
	That's 45, I think.
	Yeah, that's a lot.
	I don't think that's a good one.
	We're going to keep going.
	No way.
	Another 10.
	No way.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	No.
	Wow, no.
	I was just like impressed.
	He looked cool though.
	No.
	Oh, I thought it was a high school with him, too.
	No.
	No?
	Not the high waters.
	No.
	You know, my mom told me she got bullied for that in high school, and that's a trend.
	No.
	They're like, where's the flag?
	Like, what?
	Just keep going.
	No.
	No.
	Nothing.
	The one on the left.
	Yeah, I was just going to say.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so that, how many was that?
	50?
	I think we were like 50, 55.
	Jesus.
	It was probably more than 50, but we'll just say, so one out of 50, so that's two.
	She finds 2% of men attractive.
	Oh, it's not that I don't find him attractive.
	I just like, it's, I don't know, he gave like a cool vibe.
	Like the other guy gave a cool vibe, but he just like, I don't know.
	You mean, what do you mean, which guy?
	The guy with the cool tattoos.
	I was like, he's cool, but I don't know.
	I just have to get a certain vibe in that guy.
	Pretty picky, aren't you?
	Very.
	I actually want to go into this quickly.
	What are you looking for in a partner?
	Honestly, someone that like.
	Hold on, let's make it easy.
	So let's start looks, and then we'll do like personality, other things.
	Well, looks for me, like, looks obviously play a part.
	Clearly.
	Personality is a big part for me, though.
	Like, take my word for it.
	Yeah, no.
	But looks-wise, like, I don't know.
	If I have a really good smile, like, that gets me.
	And, like, tattoos are cool.
	I guess that's like my type.
	And then personality-wise, like, well, let me know.
	Do you have any racial preference?
	Not really.
	Do you date white, black, Asian?
	I mean, like, my three ex-boyfriends, like, one was Israeli, one was white, and one was black.
	So diverse, I guess.
	It doesn't really matter to me.
	Okay, so height?
	Height.
	I've liked, honestly, like, I like taller guys, but like, honestly, like, height, like, it's not that deep.
	Like, how tall are you?
	5'4.
	So when you say you like taller guys, what's the bare minimum height for a guy?
	I don't know.
	I mean, I've dated a guy who was like 5'8, but like, I don't know.
	I look like guys who are like, I don't know, if they're like 6'th, I guess, what I like ballpark for, but I've, I mean, I've dated a guy who's like 5'8, and I didn't have a problem with that.
	Of your three boyfriends, I don't know if you recall their heights.
	Did you?
	One was 6'5, one was 5'10, and then one was he had to be like probably like 5'8, 5'9.
	Okay, alright.
	Personality-wise?
	Personality-wise, I just like someone who can make me laugh.
	Hold on.
	Scoot your microphone.
	Scoot your mic.
	Like this.
	But scoot it this way, because you end up getting your face blocked.
	There you go.
	Go ahead.
	Honestly, someone who can make me laugh.
	If I can really vibe out with someone and just click with them, I think that's my favorite part about dating, honestly, is finding someone who can make you laugh?
	Genuinely have a good time, yeah.
	Okay.
	Anything else?
	Income, money, anything like that?
	Do they have to provide?
	No, I don't like go by the like the caretaker role specific.
	My mom, like she grew up, like she made everything herself.
	And like I had my dad, they're not together anymore, but like, I mean, she literally like she's built from nothing into something, and I'm the same way.
	Like, I don't want a man to have to provide for me.
	I want to be able to provide for myself if he wants to help, which I would hope he would help.
	I don't need him to do all the work for me, basically.
	And so you need a guy to be funny?
	Funny, kind, I guess, charismatic.
	Charismatic?
	Like.
	And do you.
	Cool vibes.
	So are you willing to date an average guy?
	Like average look-wise?
	Average in all dimensions.
	Looks, personality, income, height?
	Well, usually, like, whoever I'm with, I don't see them as average.
	I mean, even if someone else could say that they were average, like, whoever I'm with, I'm with them because I don't think that they're average.
	Or at least every time, like, I'm with someone, I'm like, oh, like, this is the coolest person in the world.
	Like, that's genuine.
	Why do you require a guy to be charismatic?
	I don't know.
	It's just because I think the vibe.
	Yeah, exactly.
	The butterflies, the chemistry.
	Yeah, you know, the corny shit.
	Have you ever met a guy who you have really good chemistry with and they actually ended up being terrible, a terrible person?
	Yeah.
	So maybe, would you agree then that perhaps chemistry is not the best thing to?
	I think he people switch up for sure and he definitely switched up.
	But I think there were other things that came into factor, like going through stuff and stuff like that.
	Do you think that there should be some degree of reciprocity in terms of relationships?
	So like If a man, for example, wants a woman who is a virgin, he should also be a virgin.
	Or if a man wants a girl with a low body count, he should have a low body count?
	Yeah, I don't like double standards because I noticed like even like my guy friends are all like, oh, like I want a girl with a super low body count, but they have like a body count of like 60.
	So you object to the desiring a trait in a partner that they don't possess themselves?
	I think like it honestly depends.
	Like I'd have to like come into more examples, but in general, I don't really think so because I'm like, I'm pretty like even, I'd say.
	So you said that you want a charismatic guy.
	Do you consider yourself charismatic?
	I think so.
	I mean, not right now, because I have two brain cells left, but normally, yes.
	Well, I mean, even earlier on in the show, I don't think your personality has changed a whole bunch.
	I acknowledge you might be a bit tired at this point.
	Yeah, well, you also said funny too.
	You want a guy who's funny, who can make you laugh.
	Are you capable of doing that for men?
	Do you think you're funny in the same way that you want men to be funny?
	I don't want to toot my own horn, but I've been told I've been funny.
	Okay.
	So on the charismatic front, I don't know if somebody wants to tell her, I'm not saying this to be mean, you're not charismatic.
	That's fine.
	You desire charisma in a man.
	I find that that's a bit of a double standard, don't you think?
	Wait, were you one of the people that said if I'm just, I don't remember.
	Were you one of the people that said if a guy came up to you and was all shaky and nervous?
	Shaky, that I wouldn't care.
	Yeah, that you would still.
	But that's not charisma at all.
	That's a good point.
	She didn't want to concede the point.
	So in that situation, she says, I'd be fine with a guy who was nervous and shy and et cetera, et cetera.
	Yet she also just said that he has charisma, though.
	No, that's not charisma.
	Once you get to know someone like that, like if your husband was super shy when he met and then you found out later that he ended up being like super charismatic.
	That's still not charisma.
	I mean he can be charismatic once you get to know someone.
	What is Riz short for?
	Charisma.
	The ability to.
	So you think a guy who's super nervous and shy and shaky, is that good Riz or bad Riz?
	I guess stereotypically speaking, it wouldn't be good Riz, but I've dated a guy like that.
	So he was like super shaky and he was scared to talk in general.
	There can be a difference between being objectively charismatic and you enjoying his personality.
	Yeah, maybe charismatic wasn't the right word.
	Maybe that's not the word that I'm looking for, but like enjoying their personality.
	That's a good question.
	Well, you did say that you consider yourself to be charismatic.
	I mean, that's the ability to like define charismatic.
	I'll Google it.
	You don't think she has confidence?
	That's confidence is a different word than charismatic.
	Charisma, compelling attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others.
	Well, maybe not here.
	I mean, I've been told that I'm charismatic by people.
	Like maybe not here because we're in a vicious debate all night.
	Well, not vicious, but we've had a little tussles.
	This man over here drinking Milwaukee says.
	Some people have told you that you're charismatic?
	Well, yeah, even like, I mean, like, she's my mom, so she probably has to say that.
	But, like, usually people that I like end up being friends with, they'll be like, oh, like, yeah, like, when you walk into your room and, like, you light it up and stuff.
	And I really take that to heart, honestly.
	And that's one of my favorite.
	I'm going to ask you a question.
	Like, your female friends?
	Male friends?
	Both.
	Both?
	I don't know if you guys have ever seen a girl's Instagram page.
	If you look at the comments, it's literally just all girls gasping.
	Oh, my God, Slay Queen, you're so hot.
	And the girl could be obese, and you will still see comments.
	Oh, my God, you're beautiful.
	You're a 10 out of 10.
	So, I don't know.
	I feel like it's kind of dangerous to just make, just take people at their word sometimes when it comes to puffery or what's the specific term, not puffery.
	Flattery?
	Flattery, yes, thank you.
	Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
	Like, some people just have, I don't know, it's just their energy almost, I want to say.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	That's probably what I'm looking for.
	Like, good energy.
	Yeah, not even like charismatic.
	I'd say good energy.
	Or someone that I can do with.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, we need to.
	Oh, there.
	Oh, we'll do bumble for.
	Do you want to do the bumble thing?
	Bumble thing?
	Over here?
	You want to do the bumble thing?
	We'll do the bumble thing.
	You.
	Age for you.
	You go first.
	She's not doing that.
	Oh, okay.
	I'll get for age.
	Probably 25 to 35.
	Why not?
	Um, no.
	No.
	No.
	Oh, yeah.
	He's probably cheating on his wife, so no.
	No.
	Uh, no.
	Yes.
	Sure.
	Yes.
	Uh.
	No. No. No.
	Yes.
	No.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I think I've said the most yeses, you guys.
	Yeah, that's pretty reasonable.
	I mean, you've got some few guys on your roster.
	Yes, he looks funny.
	No.
	How many is that?
	No.
	No.
	Okay, we'll have to do it.
	That's fair, but just know it comes down to if they, you know, are into the same things I am.
	Did we already do it with Gressia?
	Did we already do it with you?
	Bumble?
	Yeah.
	Last podcast, yeah.
	But right now, no.
	We could do it again, fuck it.
	Okay.
	18 to 21.
	How old are you?
	I'm 18, but I'm a turn 19.
	Yeah, he's cute.
	No.
	Nah.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, what?
	There's a girl in that picture.
	No.
	No.
	Face-wise, yeah.
	Nah.
	He has cool style.
	No.
	I don't know which one.
	No.
	No.
	And then Lauren will do Lauren, and then we'll wrap up here in just a moment.
	Why did I have so many?
	We'll do a short gross section.
	Yeah.
	30 to 60.
	30 to 60.
	All right, Cassie.
	Casting a wide net.
	Casting a wide net, Lauren.
	Yeah, I don't like that.
	Oh, Lord.
	He looks like he could hold space for me, yeah?
	Um, yeah.
	Lauren's getting all the babes open.
	Yeah, wait, which one?
	The right.
	The left.
	Left?
	Okay.
	Well, okay, I see a woman.
	Is that a woman behind him?
	So I'd say no, because if a woman's behind him.
	But that could be their grandmas or sisters or workers.
	Nah, he can't hold.
	I feel like he couldn't hold space for me.
	No, he samurai.
	What's going on?
	He looks like he's having fun.
	He's having fun.
	I'd probably be a buzzkill to him.
	So, let's see.
	No, too much fun.
	Tim.
	I'd need to see another picture of that one.
	So probably, no, I'd need to see.
	Sure.
	Can't see his eyes.
	He's having too much fun.
	Yeah.
	He looks like he could hold space for me.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah, he could.
	What does that mean?
	I just need like a serious, like, sometimes if a guy's too young, I'll tell him something about my life.
	He'll be like, ha ha ha, no way.
	And I'm like, dude, it really happened.
	And he's like, yo, you're just fucking with me.
	I'm like, anyway, sorry, I'm so sorry.
	Ah, no, no.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I can't see his face.
	Oh, no.
	Um, no.
	Uh, no, not in the airport.
	That's 20?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	There we go.
	That we're going to do a short roast section, guys.
	It doesn't have to be a roast.
	You can give.
	Yeah, make fun of me.
	You can give polite answers.
	We'll do a short roast session.
	I don't know, five, ten minutes, maybe.
	We'll see how it goes.
	We'll do a redirect over to Andrew's channel.
	Guys, wait.
	Is this guy, is this Andrew Bartholomew Wilson?
	Is he at 100K?
	Let's look.
	Hold on.
	But yeah, TTS is now 25, guys, if you want to get any in.
	It can be roast.
	You can say something nice.
	You can say tell Adam.
	I've donated $25.
	This panel has been appealed black as the singularity in Kashmir Usad's skull.
	What?
	Thank you, Ad.
	Appreciate it, bro.
	Thank you, man.
	Thank you.
	What if I want to do this roast me?
	But what was I saying?
	Oh, yeah, we got to get Andrew Wilson to 100K Boys.
	We're going to do a raid after the show.
	So I want you guys to, once we raid you to Andrew Wilson, do want you guys to drop a subscribe so we can get him over the threshold.
	That'd be he deserves it.
	He deserves it.
	Actually, I'm just kidding.
	Unsubscribe from him, even if you're watching on the Crucible right now.
	Unsubbed.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	Okay.
	Blocking his blessings.
	There's some reverse psychology going on there, boy.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	What was I saying?
	Should we, any final thoughts from any of the ladies?
	Any final thoughts?
	We'll also do a Twitch raid, too.
	Would any of you guys date Nick?
	I'm trying to set him up.
	Who's Nick?
	Jacob Alordi?
	Nick back then.
	Yes, probably.
	Here's the thing, though.
	He's a virgin.
	No, he's not.
	Would you date Nick?
	I think he's cute.
	Oh.
	What's up, Nick?
	What do you is he your type?
	Is Nick your type?
	You do sounds.
	Huh?
	Does he do sounds into the mic?
	Huh?
	Not as late.
	But like into the mic?
	Illinois boy donated $25.
	Came back from playing COD Zombies and Season of Discovery.
	Did you kick the girl in green off the show?
	We did.
	I've detected a 20% increase in show quality without her presence.
	Oh, shit.
	Oh, schnapps.
	Yo, thank you, man.
	I appreciate it, dude.
	Yeah, I would have liked her to stay, though, you know.
	To get into some more stuff, you know, for the plot.
	It's the plot.
	I think he makes a cutie pie.
	Does he like do like music in audio engineering?
	Is that what he's doing right now?
	Yeah, he's actually a very talented producer.
	Like, he, um, yeah.
	Okay, that's why he's, I mean, Jessica Eloded donated $25.
	Girl in pink, just because your baby daddy is black and your kid is half black doesn't permit you to talk.
	Ghetto, you look stupid.
	Stop it.
	Jessica, be nice.
	Jessica, my baby daddy's not black.
	Yeah, he's Native American.
	Nicolodeon donated $25.
	We've had enough thoughts tonight.
	Thanks, Brian.
	Happy Father's Day from Daisy.
	Wow, okay.
	She did have a great Mother's Day.
	Tom Jones donated $25.
	Ever since Andrew mentioned Button 2, that's all I've been thinking about listening to this panel.
	Please get me button two.
	What is it?
	Oh, shit.
	Brian, keep up God's work.
	Hey, thank you.
	Andrew, you are a boss.
	Where can I send my book on accountability?
	Search username in Amazon.
	Own your shit, burn yourself.
	Ryan underscore is underscore masochistic donated $25.
	Every time Pink opened her mouth, all it did was show that her IQ is one point away from being a window licker.
	Girl, get away fast.
	Her corruption is already sinking in.
	Run before it is too late.
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	Shout out to the girls in the back that showed.
	Oh shit, hold on.
	Sorry.
	I changed something.
	I need to re-trigger it.
	Okay, my bad.
	K-Notrikesunduscore is underscore hot underscore AF donated $25.
	Shout out to the girls in the back that showed up on time.
	Were professional and respectful the whole show but got little to no Mike time yo shout out W's in the chat mute girls.
	Well she had like W's in the chat.
	She had what she had funeral.
	Like oh wait what?
	Like no, like that's not I don't know.
	Like it's okay that we showed up on time, but it's like she didn't show up on time because she had a funeral.
	Like vibe has kind of been off today, like no, and that's totally understanding.
	That shit flattened my cars message.
	Okay yo, blah blah blah.
	Your message is, I think I might have to censor this one dude, it's a little uh, you're gonna have to resubmit it, you know, to the girl in the back middle, I like your tattoos, thank you.
	Oh, he likes the uh tattoos, likes the tattoos.
	If you want to get any last ones in uh, go for it.
	We are gonna wrap up here pretty soon the blah blah blah one.
	I'll read part the part that I can.
	At least I'm not gonna totally throw you under the bus here.
	He says, Lily Copen, Seeth Harder, dialed in 0430, donated $25.
	Circumcision is nothing more than genital mutilation.
	Any publicly cited benefit is a completely fraudulent claim.
	Watch sex and circumcision an American love story in front of a live Harvard audience.
	Okay, Thank you, bro.
	I am definitely.
	Some of these girls said that it's a deal breaker if the guy is uncut.
	And I actually want kind of wanted to go into that earlier on in the show, but who said it was unhygienic?
	Who said that?
	I think I was one of them.
	If they don't take care of it, you get to know them and make sure they're clean.
	Got it.
	Exactly.
	Wait, exactly.
	Precisely.
	It just scares me.
	Yeah.
	Damn, bro.
	We got to have support for our uncut brothers.
	Got to have support for them because here's what's happening, man.
	There's way too much goddamn discrimination.
	These men, they're getting the penises chopped up, and I'm upset about it.
	You know what?
	Here's what we're going to do.
	We are going to pass legislation.
	We're going to ban circumcision in the United States intactivism.
	It's called intactivism.
	I'm an intactivist.
	And we're going to say no more of this shit.
	I will not stand.
	Right, Andrew?
	We won't stand for this shit.
	Right, Andrew?
	Let me hear it.
	Let me hear a yeehaw, Andrew.
	Let me hear a yee-haw.
	I couldn't help myself.
	All right.
	No, no, no, we won't.
	We won't.
	It is true.
	In retrospect, the more I think about it, I don't think that there's a way to logically get behind or get away from the fact that it does seem to be genital mutilation.
	I don't really know how you can get past that exactly.
	By the way, guys, I have had to turn moderation on.
	Typically, I will get most of these out.
	I just want to make sure none of them are a little too saucy.
	Hold on.
	Josh donated $25.
	Kaymer, who said feminism is a trap.
	Howdy are the trumpets across from you, especially the one in pink with the wizard's sleeve.
	There's hope for everyone.
	Repent and blue.
	Lenois boy donated $25.
	Andrew, when you debated Millie Weaver on whatever a while ago, you said feminism is a product of Protestantism.
	Quick answer.
	Could you elaborate on that?
	Hashtag Christ is King.
	Read Cult Feminism by Rachel Wilson.
	And she elaborates on it.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Check out Rachel Wilson's book.
	I'm sorry, everyone donated $25.
	I would still take my chances with the one in pink.
	I'll pay for everything.
	See?
	Come on.
	Okay.
	Just kidding.
	Good times, good times.
	All right.
	Double agent donated $25.
	Brian, I promise you, when you re-watch this episode later, you're going to see how miserable you came off tonight.
	You finally met yourself coming down an upstaircase, and the encounter was crushing.
	Yeah, I mean, admittedly, I was in a bad mood today.
	I was pretty tilted.
	Not one step back.
	Brian was completely on halter all night.
	He did a perfect job.
	The super chatter is wrong and can fuck off.
	Yeah.
	Thank you, Andrew.
	No, I mean, like, I was there.
	There are certain things I could have handled a little better.
	Look, we had like three no-shows.
	We had two or three flakes.
	People were running super late.
	We had to delay the start of the show like 45, 50 minutes.
	Very uncommon.
	I was frustrated.
	I was upset.
	Obviously, I like to try to get the show out on time.
	If it wasn't for these external factors that tend to happen when it comes to no-shows, people running late, I can almost certainly guarantee you that we would be able to start the shows precisely on time at 5 p.m. Pacific or 5 p.m. Pacific.
	I do tend to punctuality, something's very important for me.
	And so it frustrates me, perhaps even more than the viewers, for us to start the show late.
	And obviously.
	We don't answer to concern trolls.
	We don't answer to the concern trolls.
	I'm sorry about your concern trolling that you thought Brian didn't handle some situation which you've never been in in your fucking life perfectly.
	Fuck off concern troll.
	No one cares.
	Fuck off.
	Yeah, and it's it is like week after week, every single, you know, no shows, flakes.
	They're rude about it.
	They don't have any consideration for what you're trying to do with your time and your business.
	And anyways, it is what it is.
	But I don't know.
	Yeah, okay.
	All right.
	Thank you, Andrew.
	Appreciate it.
	Ed Max donated $25.
	Crazy how the females that look the most like Gollum are the ones who think they are a 10.
	Interesting.
	Okay.
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	Uncut men are more likely to satisfy via penetration.
	98% of the world is uncut.
	both men and women lose out on pleasure when a male infant is sexually assaulted at birth is that from outside The rap music.
	Yo, dial it in.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Well put.
	Definitely.
	Yeah.
	Men lose out on pleasure, I guess, and not good.
	Not good.
	Sorry, guys, I'm a little tired.
	I've already been at it for a long time.
	Sorry, guys.
	Last few things.
	Wait, there was one last question I needed to ask.
	If you guys want, you can get in any more TTSs, but I think we actually hit most of it.
	Any final questions from anybody on the panel before we wrap things up?
	There was a book that someone asked.
	I saw a question, and it said, What is a good book for debating?
	And there's a book called Morals and Dogma.
	The last name is Pike.
	I can't remember the first name, but that's a good one.
	So, yeah, I saw that.
	All right.
	I guess I have just a question for Andrew.
	Makes me kind of nervous, though, the aggression.
	So, my question is, I guess, about like, you are a Christian.
	Do you claim that?
	Yeah, I'm a baptized Eastern Orthodox Christian, correct?
	Okay, so I guess I was just wondering about your use of cuss words and like telling people.
	You mean like fucking shit fucking shit.
	Yeah, like that.
	Those cuss words.
	Yeah.
	And do you think that they let me let me just kind of cut to the chase really quick?
	Yeah, let's hear it.
	Do you think that you're fooling God when you say shoot or darn it?
	Do you think that God's stupid?
	Do you think God's retarded that when you go, darn it, he doesn't know what you mean?
	Or when he go, frick!
	Do you think he doesn't know?
	Are you fooling him?
	Are you fooling him?
	Are you like, a god?
	You're muffs, God.
	You're muffs.
	No, I don't think that's how God sees it.
	If you try to change things, I think God sees that you're trying to do something that, you know, to follow his way.
	Yeah, so he lets you understand.
	These are social taboos, not biblical taboos.
	They're social taboos.
	The word, just so you know, not just the cussing.
	I didn't get to finish.
	It's, I guess, too, the way that, because remember, we're representations of Christ.
	We're kind of like his attorney.
	We're God's counsel here on earth.
	Split.
	Yeah.
	Do you just feel that the way that you come at people, even people who are non-Christians, do you think that that's how Jesus would do it?
	Or do you not believe in Jesus either?
	How should I go about things that would make you happy?
	I'm just asking from a Christian who is sent to you.
	I'm asking you.
	As a Christian.
	Since you're concerned with the way that I approach people with the correct tone, even though Christ was literally making corded whips and running people out of temples, I clearly, my tone is way off.
	I would like for you, instead of telling me how do you feel about A, B, and C, obviously I'm wrong.
	Tell me what I need to do to make you happy.
	What can I do for you?
	Well, it's not to make me happy.
	I just, something I've noticed is if people watching the show think that that's how a Christian would treat somebody, especially it just comes off very mean and judgmental.
	And I'm not saying we're not to judge righteously in the church.
	We are, but I've just seen you cussing and like saying, shut the F up.
	If Jesus were to be here, that's not how Jesus would talk to.
	You've never seen me say, shut the F up on this show.
	Yeah, that was me.
	I mean, it's a lot of cussing, and it's, and you do kind of, you know, you are a debater, and I get it, but I, just from a Christian point of view.
	Do I say some socially taboo words that you don't like?
	Do that.
	No, it has nothing about what I don't like.
	It has to do with God's nature, but I know you don't believe in the Bible now, so that makes more sense.
	What does God's nature say about your tattoo?
	I got these before I was a Christian.
	Okay, so as long as I swore before I was a Christian, that would make it fine.
	Yeah, because once you're born again, you have to be born again.
	Okay, so then why don't you cover the tattoo up?
	Because I was born again.
	I was forgiven.
	Yeah, but why don't you cover it up?
	Because if I covered it up, then that's me saying that I'm not born again, that I wasn't forgiven.
	Right, so I'm not going to lie to God about my nature, right?
	Because I say the F word.
	I'm just saying scripture tells us how to act and it perverse cuss words.
	Then tell me how I should act.
	What should I do?
	Well, how should I change my tone to make you happy?
	It's not to make me happy.
	It would be to make God happy.
	I mean, as a kid, I would like, I'm glad that you brought this up because I'd like to do a social experiment with you, if you don't mind.
	Just a very quick social experiment.
	Christian to Christian.
	If we were to return your cell phone, I would like to open up our DMs and go DM for DM and see how many DMs you've gotten from people who are thanking you for bringing them to Christ and versus how many people thank you.
	Let's do it.
	Are you ready?
	Yeah, let's do it.
	Okay, great.
	Let's do it.
	She got her phone.
	Yeah, I grabbed it last time.
	You first.
	I am going here.
	I'll let someone else read through it too.
	Just don't read the one with 2K.
	Okay.
	Someone want to go through it?
	Yeah, let's go through it.
	I don't think you can show on.
	I can't show.
	Okay.
	Just read it.
	Yeah, just read them.
	Go to my message requests and stuff.
	Oh my God.
	Go to message request here.
	Okay.
	Thank you for your Christian post.
	That prayer is almost as beautiful as dot dot dot.
	I'm not going to click on them.
	I'm just going to scroll through and see what I see.
	That has to do with God.
	No, no, no.
	How many people have converted to Christianity?
	Well, you haven't converted anybody.
	I haven't.
	Jesus does that.
	Yeah, you can't convert anybody or save anybody.
	You can't convert it to me.
	Okay, well, how many people whose words, your words have reached who have thanked you for converting them?
	That's my question.
	People are thanking you for converting them.
	No, they're thanking me for hearing the words.
	That's it.
	I mean, it's a lot.
	She can.
	They're worshiping him.
	And it's not about, you know, I'm just.
	Okay, so how many?
	Okay, I'm not even going to lie.
	She's got a lot.
	But of people who say I came to Christ because of you.
	One video, over four million, a million.
	Over a million people?
	Yeah.
	Viewing.
	You've converted you.
	No, I haven't converted anybody because I'm not Jesus.
	And I'm not yelling at people either to do it.
	Yeah, so I just want to make sure I got this right.
	According to you, over a million people have come to Christ because of you.
	That's not what I said.
	That's not what I said.
	Because your words reached them.
	No, that's not what I said.
	You made that up.
	I said a million people have viewed just this video, 4 million on this video.
	I have a reach, and it helps people, but it plants a seed because I'm not Jesus, and I don't tell people to follow me.
	And I'm not saving anybody, and neither are you.
	I didn't say I was.
	I'm saying that they've heard my words.
	That's all I'm saying.
	Well, I'm not.
	I assume that you're using the word and your words to reach people.
	Yes.
	Okay, great.
	So then if they hear your words and they would not have ordinarily have heard anybody else's words, and your words are convincing to them, and they would probably notify you or let you know?
	They have.
	Okay, great.
	How many of them?
	I wasn't counting, but I was scrolling, and there was, she had a lot of DMs.
	I'm not even going to lie about people saying thank you for your message.
	You've changed my life.
	All over the world.
	All over the world.
	Millions and millions, right?
	Hundreds of or thousands and thousands or tens of thousands?
	I mean, it doesn't matter who did more.
	How many?
	I'm just wondering.
	How many do you think?
	I mean, over time, I don't know.
	How many do you think?
	Well, so here's the difference, right?
	I would never, ever, ever in a million fucking years ever tell anybody that information.
	How many people have been converted because of me?
	How many people send me those DMs?
	How many people are asking me?
	No one has been converted.
	Stop.
	Let me finish.
	Let me finish.
	Because this is just a bunch of virtue signaling bullshit.
	It's a bunch of virtue signaling bullshit.
	And I don't fucking care if you don't like my tone.
	I don't give a shit.
	I don't care.
	Well, for anyone watching, I would just hope you know that, you know, if you love God, Christians don't act like that.
	Nobody cares what heretics have to say.
	It's not heretics.
	Nobody cares.
	What denomination are you in?
	I'm non-domination.
	Which heresy?
	What heresy denomination are you from?
	You just like to hear yourself talk and you just say different things.
	Which heresy denomination are you from?
	I'm not in a denomination.
	You're non-denominational.
	Yeah, you're non-denominational.
	Is that funny?
	Yeah.
	I think it's funny, yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I think it's sad that you represent for all of you who are listening out there, for all of you who are listening, because I have been to fucking heretics who tell you that you can fool God and he's not going to actually know that you said fuck when you said frick.
	But you're just saying that.
	I don't say that.
	Big-brained fucking Protestant over here.
	Big-brained.
	You can fool God by saying frick.
	We are to be Jesus's representation on earth so that people who are non-believers can see the way that you act.
	You don't teach on earth.
	You're not to teach.
	You're to sit there and be silent on earth.
	It's when people observe you.
	Okay, well, you don't believe the Bible.
	Holy woman looking bad.
	I don't believe the Bible.
	What does Paul say about women teaching?
	What does he say?
	Says that they're to not teach in the church and to listen to men on the church.
	No, and you're not to correct men, are you?
	But it's not to assume authority.
	And I don't teach you.
	You're not to correct men, are you?
	Well, I can correct you because I wouldn't call you a Christian.
	It's not to correct men, are you?
	I mean my husband.
	Yeah, so your husband, he could come to me and correct me.
	You're not to correct men, are you?
	No.
	Then stop trying to correct me.
	I meant no.
	I'm not supposed to correct you.
	I'm not trying to correct men.
	Stop.
	No.
	On this podcast, I got even the whole thing looking bad.
	Can I ask you?
	Willful spirit.
	Do you act like this?
	Or try all the women looking bad.
	You could be a whole Christian.
	Personally, don't, but I personally don't.
	I believe he makes a valid point when he brings up this.
	I'm sorry.
	Did you just appeal to somebody else to make your argument for you?
	You just got done saying it's not for you to correct men.
	And yet, when I said then, stop correcting men, you said no.
	You have what's called a willful spirit.
	No, what you have is you're actually misplacing conviction from God, and you're placing it because I'm judging you.
	Oh, yeah.
	Did God convict you to correct me?
	Yeah, he did.
	He did?
	So God's going against his own teachings?
	I don't know.
	I'm not sure.
	I just don't believe in that.
	I don't know.
	That's not what it says.
	You're twisting scriptures because you talk fast and you yell at people.
	I'm not talking fast.
	And I'm not yelling.
	You were saying I am not supposed to teach a man.
	I'm not teaching you anything.
	I'm telling you.
	I'm telling you something.
	It's almost like an open rebuke.
	When someone is sinning or doing something, you would go to them in the church before eventually kicking them out.
	But obviously, I can't kick you out.
	But I'm just telling you as a Christian.
	Yeah, you can't.
	It's not for you.
	And it's really not for you.
	It's for you.
	You can't correct me.
	I would say for people that watch you and they think that that's like how a Christian should act, I would just say I disagree.
	Well, that's great.
	I would just say that I disagree.
	I think that if anybody is so fucking stupid that they think that when she says, frick, she's fooling God.
	She's saying that.
	I don't say it.
	He doesn't know.
	He doesn't know what she means.
	Right?
	Anything you say in Lou, what you're doing is you're actually making a conflation.
	I've tried to explain this to people before.
	It's impossible to do with women because you guys operate off of pure feelings.
	You think that your emotional state is what makes you a Christian.
	That's why you guys are all heretics.
	It's insane.
	The non-denominational are the worst.
	So that you understand.
	A social taboo.
	Saying the word shit is a social taboo.
	It is not.
	Listen, this is stated.
	It's state over and over again.
	These are social taboos.
	You not cussing doesn't make you a good Christian.
	Do you have Bible scriptures for that, though?
	And I'm not going to get into it, but I'm just saying.
	I'm going to get a final point from each of you.
	Final point on that.
	I've got to let a couple of people.
	Yeah, listen.
	So here's my final point.
	No perverse.
	You're not clearing from the heart.
	That's all I do.
	You're not fooling God when you say, oh, I don't use these socially constructed words, which are in no way taboo in other nations.
	So let me ask a question.
	A real quick question.
	If in China, the word shit was not a social taboo, is it okay for the Chinese to say it if they're Christians?
	Or can just the word shit is just non-Christian?
	Just saying it is not.
	It's the perverse meaning behind it.
	It's the meaning behind it.
	God.
	Okay, so it's a socially constructed meaning, right?
	But if we know that, God knows that, and I'm just saying God knows our hearts and he tells us what we speak from our mouth comes from the abundance of our heart.
	So when we say what things that we know to be wicked words, he would know that.
	So if I say the word shit, you think that I actually mean excrement off of the ground?
	Like if I snub my nose and I go, oh, shit, do you think that there's evil meaning in my heart?
	I think when you are talking to me.
	Just answer my question, please.
	But it's just so irrelevant to what I'm telling you, though.
	And answer my question, please.
	If I snub my toe and I say shit, is the meaning in my heart malicious and evil?
	Final thought from I don't know how to answer him because he's just saying something totally different.
	They've been doing this the whole podcast.
	It doesn't make sense.
	Final thought, Andrew?
	Final thought on that?
	Yeah, you don't understand because you never fucking thought about it for five seconds.
	That's what drives me.
	No, you just twist up.
	You twist up.
	You never thought about any of these concepts for even five seconds?
	You haven't.
	It drives me berserk because I've actually taken the time to sit down and talk to clergy.
	And so you think that Jesus swears to actual clergy about how this operates.
	That's insane.
	Oh, damn.
	That's insane.
	That's not how Jesus would act.
	It's insane.
	It was insane.
	I'm also.
	Okay, I am much younger and I've not been a Christian for a long time, but even I can tell someone as advanced as you are probably in the church that should know God and his nature.
	The fact the way that you do talk to girls and stuff, it's insane.
	Like you're held to a higher standard.
	I mean, it's just not.
	Yeah, well, great.
	I'm sure no one's ever said this to you before.
	Look at what you Protestants have done.
	You Protestants did a great job stopping all this prostitution and abortion and everything in society with your fucking tone policing, haven't you?
	You haven't accomplished shit.
	You're calling me a Protestant.
	Society is the most decadent it's ever been, thanks to you Protestants.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for being nice to them while they fucking destroy the world.
	Thank you.
	Very kind of you to tone police, everybody.
	Very kind.
	It's worked out real well, right?
	Prostitution's way down, isn't it?
	Decadence way down, isn't it?
	Thank you.
	You're doing crazy.
	Great job, Protestants.
	Even though why you just keep calling me a Protestant, I mean, I'm...
	You're non-denominational, right?
	Yeah.
	You're a non-denominational Protestant.
	What do you want me to say?
	I'm not, you know, involved with any of that.
	I just take care of my own faith, but you're on here telling girls about your relationship with God, and it's just frustrating.
	Was it your made-it-up faith?
	My made-it-up faith?
	Yeah, is it your made-it-up faith, or is there some church authority that you're under?
	I don't know.
	I was just trying to tell you.
	You know, you're not listening to me.
	See, you twist things, and that's what you all I was trying to tell you, and I wish you would just let me say it in one sentence.
	One sentence.
	I do not think it's a good representation if you claim to be a follower of Christ to be cussing and swearing at people and acting like you.
	Oh, I'm sorry I interrupted your chastisement.
	I'm sorry, my bad.
	Sorry, I interrupted you while you were upset and wanted to chastise me publicly.
	I didn't want to chastise you.
	It's the way that you reacted and you just flipped it and attacked me.
	Yeah, I mean, I tend to mock.
	When people say stupid shit, I tend to mock the stupid shit.
	God's word is not stupid.
	The words you're saying are stupid.
	They don't even make sense.
	When I ask you basic questions, you flounder.
	Basic questions.
	Because you're asking me questions that are not even relevant.
	You're talking about dog pooping.
	They are relevant.
	The scriptures say no perverse language should come from your lips.
	Yeah, but what does that mean?
	And that the way that we act should be a representation of Christ to help.
	Yeah, what does perverse mean, though?
	What does that mean?
	Perverse language.
	What does that mean?
	What is the meaning behind that?
	Perverse language means.
	I don't know how to explain it.
	It means just, you know.
	Yeah, you don't know.
	That's my whole point.
	That's why I brought up the snipping your nose and saying is that perverse?
	Because I don't think it's perverse.
	Perverse language means it has a bad, dark intention, but humans use for sexual or evil, hate, malice.
	That would be perverse.
	So perverse would mean that there's intent behind whatever it is, right?
	Yes, and I'm not sure.
	Intent's what matters, right?
	Right.
	Okay, so you can't make my heart.
	So if I say the word shit, why is the intent evil or malicious or perverse?
	Except how?
	Explain it to me.
	You're missing what I'm saying.
	I'm saying that when you are representing Jesus, what makes you different than just someone who's out in the street saying, F you, F you, F this?
	I mean, I'm just saying it's...
	Because it tends.
	Intent is what is the perverse.
	That is what is perverse.
	For instance, okay, have you ever heard in the South, they do a lot of things like they might say, oh, it's colder than a witch's tit.
	Have you ever heard that?
	No.
	You never heard that?
	Have you ever heard, oh, it's hang on, hang on.
	It's so cold outside, there's icicles hanging off the devil's balls.
	Have you ever heard that?
	No.
	No, okay, these are common phrases, common saying, especially down south, right?
	Are they evil, perverse people for saying those things, for saying it's colder than a witch's tit?
	Are they evil?
	Is that perverse?
	Could it be perverted?
	Yeah.
	What I talked about.
	Is it perverse to just say it?
	I mean, it depends how far you are in Christ, but someone like you, yeah, I would expect more.
	That's all I'm saying.
	Okay, is it perverse to say it or not?
	Okay, to be honest, I wasn't listening.
	It does have to be final word from me.
	You just like you won't answer the question.
	You do everything but answer the question.
	Ask me the question.
	That's how I say it.
	No, no, ask me the question.
	I wasn't listening.
	I tuned you out because you're arguing.
	I told you my opinion and you just started going on and on and on and you've just lost me.
	Ask your question one sentence.
	Is it perverse to say it's colder than a witch's tit outside?
	Yes, it is.
	And what makes it perverse?
	Because you're saying the word.
	And you know what it represents, and you're not stupid.
	I'm not saying the word tit.
	Yeah, and I do think it's perverse.
	I do.
	What about now?
	If I said, it's colder than a witch's nipple.
	Yeah, that's perverted.
	I would expect a dumb young kid to say something like that.
	Not a grown man who says that he follows Christ and he's trying to teach people or lead them to the world.
	Bring the witch's nipples into the world.
	It's embarrassing.
	Now, what if they said it's not a sincere?
	It's colder than hell outside.
	Colder than a witch's nipple.
	Colder than hell.
	That's just kind of a stupid thing to say.
	It's not perverse.
	It's not perverted.
	See, perverse comes from perverted.
	Yeah, what's what's so what's not perverse about invoking hell?
	What the fuck?
	Because you know it's not the same.
	Talking about how Jesus talks about the words.
	Okay, did Jesus talk?
	No, let me speak.
	Did Jesus talk about perverted things or did he talk about hell?
	We can talk about hell.
	I mean, he's talked about hell, yeah.
	Okay, so why are you comparing it to perverted words?
	That's just because I'm just, I'm making, I'm giving you an example of how perverted it is for you to take kind of these socially constructed taboos that you just don't like and trying to imagine a reality of sin.
	Somebody's saying it's colder than hell outside, right?
	That's not perverse, lady.
	It's the Bible saying it, not me.
	For some reason, in your brain, the Bible says it.
	No, it's where?
	Where does the Bible say that?
	Okay, let's bring up the scriptures.
	Yeah, let's do it.
	Bring it up.
	Bring up where it says that that is perverse to say it's colder than a witch's tit.
	You know that because it's not specifically in there, and that's why you have to have conviction from God because not every situation is in the Bible.
	Can we just like play with you?
	We're not talking about the witchness.
	Do you want to make a final thing, Andrew?
	I do want to try to wrap things up.
	It's almost two.
	Yeah, so anyway, the whole point here is that the reason you can't answer any of these basic questions.
	I did answer them.
	You just didn't like it.
	I said no, and it is perverted.
	They don't like your answers.
	Exactly.
	You said a whole bunch of nothing.
	I don't agree with a lot of that.
	I gave you scriptures.
	You gave no scriptures.
	You just say, I can cuss and swear and do whatever I want.
	Listen, here's the thing about God's nature, the logos, right?
	God gave us logic.
	Logic.
	And so the thing is, is that if you say anything to me ever which is perverse to the nature of God and the logos and logic, I'm going to dismiss it as being illogical because it's not of the nature of God.
	Do you understand?
	Yes, but that's disrespectful to God because he would not curse.
	It's disrespectful to God to obey his nature.
	Okay.
	Do you think you're obeying his nature by saying F you?
	That's insane.
	That doesn't.
	That's crazy, son.
	That is crazy.
	That's crazy.
	I don't know.
	I'm just.
	I know he's joking, but yes.
	Wait, actually, I want to defend Andrew.
	I want to defend Andrew here.
	So I'm in my mid-30s, right?
	I'm in my mid-30s.
	And I've been pretty much, I would say, like agnostic atheist for like pretty much most of my life, right?
	And like, you know, I've been exposed to, you know, some religious stuff here and there.
	It's not because you're asking him how many people have Andrew converted?
	I'm not quite there yet.
	But Andrew has made the most compelling case for religion that I've heard.
	I'm, I would, you know.
	Sorry, I'm tired.
	I'm not really making sense right now.
	But Andrew's like the closest person, like, who's pushed me more towards religion than anybody.
	So, I don't know, just to shout out to him.
	Yeah, but you have to understand, Brian, that I didn't use the correct tone.
	I never spoke about your tone.
	I feel like I agree with a lot of things Andrew says, especially on the religion topic, but I do feel like this podcast is very much like, I don't know, it's like very wait.
	Did you just say you agree with a lot of what I say on the religious side?
	On the religion?
	I just called it negative.
	It's kind of negative.
	Because what I say makes sense, right?
	It is.
	I mean, yeah.
	I mean.
	Do you feel threatened?
	Yeah.
	I mean, it just makes sense.
	Gigantic cell phone.
	Yes.
	That definitely put me on.
	Can I ask you, are you convicted that what I'm saying is making sense?
	Convicted.
	Yeah.
	Are you convicted?
	I mean, I'd have to listen to you talk more.
	Yeah, but it definitely makes sense, right?
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	Yeah, and the thing is about the nature of the logos and the nature of logic.
	When people hear you speak and they hear what you're actually saying and they can logically deduce it from something other than because the holy spirit told you so, it's far more compelling to people.
	Far more compelling.
	That's just been my experience.
	I do.
	Then again, I've debated with the largest atheists in the world.
	I don't remember you, ma'am, ever doing anything of the sort.
	Here you go.
	You are very offended, Hankel.
	Sorry, I didn't.
	Yeah, I would never in a million years make the declaration.
	I would make the declaration you're a heretic, but I would never make a salvific claim or say something as absurd as you're not a Christian.
	Anyways, guys, I got to let the TTSs come through, and then we got to wrap up the show.
	We have quite a few in the queue.
	So that was a very fun exchange.
	Very fun exchange.
	I'm sure you guys will be best friends after this.
	So, okay.
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	Not agreeing with what some women do isn't misogyny.
	Not agreeing with what some men do isn't misandry.
	Try to ignore your competitive ego and you might learn or teach something.
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	Screw it, just cause him curious.
	And on a lighter note, I do have a rather off-topic question.
	But have any of you watched the Amazon Fallout?
	And if you did, what did you think?
	If you haven't, why not?
	It was mid.
	If women ran the world, would it be able to function?
	4 p.m. means 5:30.
	4 times 3 equals 9.
	Girl, method collapse economy.
	You're welcome, Winnie.
	Illinois boy donated $25.
	Andrew, how much better would the world be if the Byzantine Empire never fell to the Ottomans?
	Hashtag Constantinople, Notistan, Bull Hashtag Bring Back Byzantium.
	Am I allowed to smoke?
	Austrian's trumpet slayer donated $25.
	What's the difference between Death Knights and Prostitutes?
	They're both cheap, easy, and spread diseases.
	What about drinking a beer?
	Is that unchristian too?
	Double agent donated $25.
	Brian, I didn't say you did a miserable job tonight.
	I said you came off miserable.
	As an annoyed, frustrated, irritated, short fuse.
	As a host, you crushed as usual.
	Andrew, Jesus, man, relax.
	Alright, double agent.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Yeah.
	Am I allowed to smoke?
	Am I allowed to do that?
	Go ahead, light one up, Mr. Light one up.
	You don't want my okay, I should allow you non-Christian.
	Lastly, a woman preferring a man cut is the pinnacle of female privilege because it's mostly based on aesthetic preference, not principle or reason.
	Cut men are more likely to have Ed Up PR Aquatic donated $25.
	Wrong Andrew has turned my life to Christ after a life of sinning and so many others.
	And I haven't never heard of you ever.
	And stop tone policing.
	Hash the crucible.
	Tom Jones donated $25.
	I fucking love Andrew's diction.
	I've learned a lot from him, he is fucking awesome.
	If I were there, I would give him a big fucking fist bump.
	So am I allowed to smoke?
	Should I smoke as a curve?
	Austrian's trumpet slayer donated $25.
	I don't think it's so reasonable.
	To those who suspect naught, it has an attractive and pleasing appearance.
	Andrew Housebox and going.
	Oh, Andrew.
	Andrew is Chad donated $25.
	I have been a fairly secular Christian my entire life.
	Since watching Andrew, I have been seriously considering Catholicism, and I'm sure I am only one of many.
	Andrew is Chad.
	Anonymous donated $25.
	1 Timothy 2:12 KJV, but I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
	Which you were not.
	To be fair, Andrew and panel.
	Hopefully, this is a very secular show.
	I think I'm your first Irish fan.
	Well, expect for Andrew.
	I just want to say TA checks for opening my eyes in the dating, and you have an awesome pod.
	Real Christians go out.
	I would say that is the epitome of why the church is devolving into blasphemy.
	You have done a real service to the world by being gentle and understanding.
	You should re-evaluate yourself and your faith.
	Okay.
	Paul McEwen Rogers donated $25.
	You're having a late one.
	I always miss the show.
	I'm based in the UK.
	Andrew, you're a fucking legend.
	Brian I'm Manning Destroy Warlock in War Within.
	What wow class suits each girl?
	I mean, I don't play World of Warcraft anymore.
	I used to back in the day.
	But I don't know.
	Do all Christians smoke?
	There's a couple.
	You are so offended if it's not true.
	Can you answer my question?
	Yes, I can.
	Someone could be living in sin.
	It does not mean that they don't love Jesus.
	Having unrepentant sin is much different.
	Is smoking a sin?
	Banging.
	Technically, yes.
	Is drinking a beer a sin?
	I would say no, only getting drunk.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	What about eating a jelly donut?
	Is that a sin?
	No, and I think you're just now starting to reach and be ridiculous.
	What if I eat a jelly donut and say, ah, this tastes like shit?
	Is that a sin?
	I think you just like to argue.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I do like to argue my donations.
	I don't waste my time.
	What's the whole point of this podcast?
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm debating Protestants versus arguments.
	Also, do you believe scripture doesn't say you shouldn't curse?
	Just want clarification.
	Andrew, what do you mean by cursing is not the same thing as saying the word shit.
	Cursing is to curse.
	You're actually cursing people.
	That's what it's telling you.
	What's going on here, though, I would actually – so if I eat – if I take a bite of a piece of food and I go, this tastes like shit, you're saying that that's – you're not a Christian.
	That's – I'm not saying you're not a Christian.
	That's not what I'm saying, though.
	You're twisting it.
	I'm saying when you're on this show and you're telling people that you love God and you're quoting scripture, but you're saying, you know, F this and F that.
	It's just not a good example.
	And then you're saying, oh, God would swear the Bible doesn't say that.
	I'm like, okay, well, then I'm not sure if we're in the same thing.
	Yeah, no, what I'm saying is that, first of all, on the show, I rarely use religious arguments.
	Other people bring up religion, like you did.
	I use secular arguments to convince secularists away from secularism.
	Have you ever tried that?
	It's really hard.
	You should try it sometimes.
	Actually, secular arguments.
	Do you consider yourself not secular?
	He's an Orthodox Christian.
	I'm an Orthodox Christian.
	Well, just because you call yourself that.
	I was baptized.
	But you could be baptized in secular.
	There's a difference between heretic.com where you can just go and say, I'm Christian because I say so, and actually being formally introduced into a Catholic church.
	Damn it.
	That's a process.
	It's a three-year-long process.
	It's not a, oh, I just woke up and I accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior and made up whatever head cannon I wanted.
	It's kind of crazy that you're like questioning if Andrew's a Christian.
	That's kind of crazy.
	I'm not questioning if he's a Christian, but he's a bad example.
	And what I'm saying to you is, you can be baptized, you can be Orthodox, you could be Catholic, you could be whatever, but you can still walk on the streets.
	I'm going to have to let the rest come through.
	Twix to them donated $25.
	Turned policing and being nice has helped no one in today's society.
	It's insane to think continuing the same bees is going to produce something different.
	They don't care.
	They just are all your fans.
	I already know.
	Morning all.
	Andrew, you're a legend.
	Brian, which wow class or race suits each girl?
	I mean, Warlock Destro.
	Which one of them is a goblin?
	That's it.
	Knock checks for charity donated $25.
	TBH Andrew is a mentally unstable guy who can't handle being challenged when he's in the wrong.
	Trying to overrun people in debates with anger and rage and getting loud.
	Also very misogynic, no respect.
	M.F. Ritchie donated $50.
	Oh, thank you.
	Tell Carrot Top to puck off.
	He's cleaner than F. Andrew.
	TTS voice proves it.
	The big guy is listening and can see her tattoo on the temple.
	Brian and Andrew, great job.
	Keep the ladies in check.
	Thank you, bro.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you, man.
	Lenois boy donated $25.
	There's a bunch coming up.
	Redhead, you're coming off as very self-righteous and holier than thou.
	I'm a Protestant, but Christians aren't called to tone police themselves to make lost sinners feel better about themselves.
	A underscore warzone donated $25.
	Also, to the girl in the black on the right middle, I have to say you have a beautiful and infectious smile.
	You, I think.
	Do you want to respond?
	Do you want to say thank you?
	Oh, me?
	Yeah, do a little wink into the camera.
	Austrian trumpet slayer donated $25.
	Holy Schnitzel.
	What?
	Oh, oh.
	Yeah, that was good, man.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Australian.
	Thank you, Australian trumpet.
	Tristanated $25.
	Strumpet.
	Does this Cretinous red-headed brother know that Jesus has in fact mentioned breasts?
	Yeah, but it's not in a perverted way.
	What's he talking about?
	Witch nipples?
	Killer of cereal donated $25.
	Get some, get some.
	Sleep well, eat good.
	Stay hydrated, stay alive.
	Live within your means.
	Keep life in perspective.
	Kill of cereal.
	Stay focused on your goals and never let a trumpet in your bed.
	My best to all.
	Kill of cereal.
	Look, need to read the Karen Bible.
	The Karen Bible of tone policing.
	And here's.
	So, Christianity is really?
	It's a really good thing.
	You're so offended that I just said.
	I got your faith.
	You just keep on.
	You just don't keep asserting that I'm offended.
	I'm mocking you.
	You obviously offended.
	Well, I don't mock people.
	Kill of cereal.
	I know.
	I know.
	I like to play it.
	Because niceness is really what Christianity is about.
	No, it's not about niceness.
	Telling the truth is not always nice.
	Like what I told you tonight.
	You didn't want to hear it and you defend it and it's fine.
	You didn't tell any truth?
	You haven't told a single truth this evening.
	You're definitely not about religion.
	You're trying to correct a man on theology.
	Not.
	I guess I'm not even going to go there with you.
	The point is, I think anyone would just know.
	You wouldn't talk about that.
	Oh, they would just know.
	Okay, great argument.
	I mean, it's up.
	Read the Bible.
	Great argument.
	Read the Bible.
	Great argument.
	Read the Bible.
	Yeah, great argument.
	Oh, your great argument was talking about dog poop.
	So.
	Yeah, my great argument was to test your logic.
	You never tested anything.
	77 donated $25.
	Hey, Brian, you should invite Ariko TV, Andrew knows, to the whatever panel sometime.
	Maybe even Griffin Mind or Abbo and Preach or the other red pill YouTuber guys.
	I've been talking to Eric.
	I've been talking to him for over.
	J-Mac donated $25.
	I grew up your typical California liberal/slash atheist.
	As I've reached my 30s, I'm glad people like Andrew are pushing back against the degeneracy that my generation has pushed on society.
	Do better.
	Who's the primary victim of porn?
	And why?
	Obviously, it's men, right?
	Or it's both.
	It's both of them.
	It's both.
	Definitely both.
	Tickle Fight donated $25.
	Week 7 of Fatherhood.
	My daughter will be raised well so she does not end up a trollop.
	Andrew, are you tired of these salad bar Christians that pick and choose what they listen to?
	Also, Trump 2024.
	They just Travis Pickle donated $25.
	Pink Blonde, you're a prostitute.
	That bad thing you feel admitting it is called guilt from your conscience because you know it is wrong.
	You have that feeling for a reason.
	Stop it.
	Do better.
	We can fix her.
	Austrian's trumpet slayer donated $25.
	It's all good.
	He who allows our side shares in the crime of its existence.
	He who allows the trumpet to live shares in the crime of its existence?
	Old Man Marine donated $25.
	I've been considering the Orthodox Church just because of Andrew and how much sense me makes over most Protestant churches, especially non-denominational.
	Happy Father's Day, Andrew.
	Killer Serial donated $25.
	Get Gustavo back.
	I need the robot walking, Chilean military suit wearing legend back to bring some background levity.
	You know, he had the invite to come back, but Dial Edino 430 donated $25.
	Women can't stand being wrong, which is why you saw the Olympic-level mental gymnastics you did tonight.
	Pink blondie, you're not attending.
	Your ghetto mannerism are annoying as fuck.
	Hey, I like her ghetto mannerisms.
	First off, okay.
	Thank you.
	I like the ghetto mannerisms.
	I want to do a call to action to you.
	Okay.
	You said you started your OF two weeks ago?
	Like, a month ago?
	A month ago.
	It's not too late.
	What?
	To take it out?
	Take that shit down.
	Don't look back.
	This is a call to action that I've been starting to give at the end of the podcast.
	You're not that in deep.
	You're not too far in deep.
	No.
	I already told you I didn't.
	I'm not too deep.
	I know, but it's a slippery.
	It's like a gateway.
	Like, within a year, you're going to be doing gangpangs, bro.
	Trust me.
	Definitely not.
	Trust me, bro.
	I've seen it too many times.
	Oh, let me just post some lewd content.
	Here's me in some fucking anime costumes.
	Literally 30 days later, like Bukaki, 30-dude gangbang.
	It's done, bro.
	It's over.
	Get that.
	Yo.
	You know what?
	Just because I really kind of just be scamming guys on my OnlyFans, I'll take it out.
	Yikes.
	That's the yikes.
	Well, it's a lot of thirsty man on my Instagram, so I just thought, you know, why not make some money off of it?
	Excuse me?
	Oh, my God.
	She's so toxic, bro.
	Yeah.
	Like, you guys want to be in my DMs and comment on my hairstress.
	Scam you.
	Subscribe to my OnlyFans.
	I scam you for money.
	Rude.
	I mean, it's not really a scam.
	You don't know.
	You literally used the word scam, didn't you?
	Yeah.
	Did you not just say scam?
	I did.
	I mean, call it what you want.
	Have you scammed a guy?
	Have you ever had Sugar Daddy?
	Uh-huh.
	Have you ever pegged a dude?
	Huh?
	Sorry.
	No.
	Because my stuff is, I don't know.
	I kind of feel like you're.
	have like intuition from people i feel like you're you kind of like peg dudes I don't know.
	Really?
	Do I look like peggy?
	Yeah, like you want to dominate.
	You know what I mean?
	Do I look like a peg dude?
	Absolutely.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Yeah, you're right.
	All day, every day.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	All day, every day.
	Shit.
	Have you actually, though?
	Oh, Lauren.
	Wait, Lauren.
	Call to action to you.
	You've been coming on the show for over a year.
	You're a courtesan.
	Yes.
	Can we get a commitment from you tonight?
	What?
	That you will stop the prostitution tonight.
	We can save you, Lauren.
	Lauren.
	I've been doing this 10 years, Brian.
	Hey, you want to get out eventually, right?
	Well, like, if I, like, become a mobile, sure.
	But.
	But, I mean, I think that I think it's good to be.
	If you become a mobile, like if a guy just like wipes it down, like, wheelchair mobile.
	Oh.
	Then I would.
	Do you think anyone's ever like has a girl ever gone in a wheelchair from like getting fucked too hard?
	You guys are no, but there was this actually disabled porn star and she was in a wheelchair and she looked sexy.
	Like she had a wheelchair and she had jet black hair and a ponytail.
	She was she was pretty hot.
	Like what the fuck?
	Okay, good talk.
	All right.
	But thank you for your call to action.
	Of course.
	Yeah, I appreciate it.
	Just looking out.
	Thanks, Brian.
	So you're down to just stop that shit now and become a nun?
	I think that's the only thing that's you down to become a nun?
	If I'm like 50.
	50?
	I'll fully commit to the mom, to like a nunnery or old man hall donated $25.
	I appreciate your call.
	Quick question for Andrew.
	Do you believe God considers getting to twos as sinful?
	I would ask the redhead, but she's a woman.
	Stop trying to usurp your authority.
	Illinois boy donated $25.
	Andrew, are all Protestant denominations big bad or do any of them have good theology/slash doctrine?
	There are many theological doctrines which I agree with that beaten cheeks donated $25.
	I'm waking up 5 a.m. in Florida, Andrew dunking on fake religious zealots.
	Andrew can't stop winning.
	Too bad he's married.
	Otherwise, he'd be in the soft guy era like me.
	Drizzle, drizzle.
	Drizzle, drizzle.
	Just take donated $25.
	Proverbs 424K JV put away from the froed mouth and perverse lips put far from thee.
	Shit.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Justigy.
	I appreciate him.
	thank you all killer of cereal donated $25 put your clothes back on bring the mic out and let the lyrics flow instead of the various goo seeping around from your debaucherous behavior you have a skill other than your body nurture it yo you could get if you drop some fire bars I'm telling you, bro, there's probably people watching this shit right now that are trying to sign you.
	Cut this only thin shit out, bruv.
	Cut the shit out.
	Travis Pickle donated $25.
	Cut this out.
	Carrot Total would rather you be kind and nice and let these people burn in hell for eternity rather than dare hurt their feelings by rebuking them.
	Would you be kind to Satan if he were sitting there?
	Austrian's trumpet slayer donated $25.
	The guilty and the polluted fight.
	They deny.
	They struggle.
	Andrew likes to rough his fat titties on brains dumpy.
	What the fuck was that?
	What the fuck?
	What the fuck was that?
	All right, Nick, we're going to raid WoGrandma78.
	If you can get her pulled up on Twitch.
	All right, a couple of final things here.
	Guys, we're going to get Andrew to 100K.
	Dude, the sun's going to be rising.
	I'm sorry, Andrew.
	Literally, oh my.
	Well, Andrew's on the East Coast.
	This guy's a fucking legend.
	He stayed up till fucking.
	It's 5:15 a.m. where this guy lives.
	Gentlemen, you need to get this guy to 100,000 subscribers because this man is a fucking workhorse.
	He stayed up super late.
	Yeah, you can hide that.
	He stayed up very late so that he could argue with these fine women.
	Fine ladies.
	Thank you.
	And so, guys, you need to get him to 100,000 subscribers.
	We're going to do a raid here in just a moment to his channel.
	Stay tuned on YouTube.
	Drop him a sub because he's a fucking legend.
	He's got beautiful hair.
	Let me give you some more reasons.
	He's got a beautiful beard.
	I also filled in tonight.
	I filled in tonight.
	We were going to have Natalie Winters, but her flight got, there was a flight issue.
	She will be there on Tuesday.
	Should be there on Tuesday.
	What are some other reasons why you should go subscribe to him?
	He's got a great beard.
	He's he has a very cool, like the way he smokes cigarettes is really cool.
	It's just like, and I feel like we're stretching it out now.
	And he's an all-around great guy.
	So drop him a sub, guys.
	Okay, so also by Rachel.
	I promise you one thing: that I'm not going to drive you hundreds of miles away, leave you stranded at a gas station to steal your luggage.
	can promise you that much.
	Yeah, that's interesting.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We're going to do a raid.
	Yo, guys, I can't wait to go home and watch the new season of House of the Dragon, boys.
	New season.
	I think it's better than Game of Thrones.
	We're going to do.
	Let me do my final little shout-outs here.
	We have.
	Okay, GG.
	Well played to the panel.
	Last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me, Andrew.
	Light up a Siggy here.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who soup chats, donates, supports the show.
	We will be live again Tuesday, 5 p.m. Pacific with Natalie Winters.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara.
	07's in the chat.
	I'm gonna do a Twitch raid.
	Who are we raiding on Twitch?
	We're doing Wo Grandma.
	Let's raid her.
	Thank you for watching on Twitch, guys.
	You guys are legend.
	Follow, follow, quick.
	If you're watching over on Twitch, drop us a follow.
	All good.
	Thank you for coming.
	Appreciate it.
	It's all good.
	Okay, so Nick, pull up the Twitch.
	Okay, fine.
	That's where.
	Okay.
	Guys, we're raiding Wo Grandma.
	She's like 82.
	I don't know.
	Bro, she stays up late.
	I'm pretty sure she's in the U.S.
	I don't know.
	She's on a crazy sleep schedule, but she's a fucking legend.
	She actually only sleeps like two hours a night because she's a fucking giga.
	What's the female?
	She's a legend, guys.
	Show her some love.
	Tell her we need her on the podcast.
	Be nice.
	Be nice, guys.
	She's playing World of Warcraft retail.
	So I'm going to start the raid here in just a moment.
	Show her some love, guys.
	She's got like a couple hundred, 200 followers.
	Give her a little love.
	All right.
	That raid is going out here in just a second.
	Before we send you over, be sure to follow the whatever channel.
	Drop us a prime sub on the way out if you have one.
	Okay, raiding now.
	And that should be going through.
	What is she's doing?
	Like some PvP shit?
	I don't know what she's doing.
	What is she doing?
	What's up, Wo Grandma?
	Look at that focus.
	She's focused right now.
	What is she playing?
	World of Warcraft?
	Retail.
	See, this is where I disagree with Wo Grandma.
	She's playing the retail.
	She should be playing classic.
	I'm more of a class.
	I'm a classic Andy, so.
	So, you know.
	Classic Andy.
	We need to figure out.
	She's going to speak.
	Damn, she's been straightening for seven hours.
	That's almost as long as it is.
	She's a beast.
	She's killing it.
	Anyways.
	I think she's so locked in.
	She doesn't even notice we're here, boys.
	She's locked in.
	She's just look at this.
	Look at her focus.
	This is what makes a legendary gamer.
	It's fucking focus.
	Look at this focus she has.
	She's switching around her talents on the cast bar.
	She doesn't have time for this whatever shit.
	She's just fucking zeroed in.
	She's zeroed in.
	She's grinding.
	She's killing fucking mobs.
	She's fucking killing it, boys.
	Okay.
	I don't think we're going to get any attention from her.
	Anyways.
	All right.
	Cool.
	You can close that out.
	Unfortunately, she did not notice us, Senpai, or whatever the fuck.
	So, we need to do a raid to Andrew.
	Oh, wait, shit.
	A couple more came through.
	Okay, we'll let these come through, and then we will wrap.
	Tickle Fight donated $25.
	I forgot to say Happy Father's Month.
	In El Salvador, Jr. is Father's Month.
	Celebrating men as children instead of digitions and the mentally put her back on.
	Brian, thank you for being the anti-DGen podcast.
	Thank you.
	A little bit undergered.
	I think we missed it.
	Okay, okay, that's cool.
	All right.
	Hold on.
	Laurie donated $25.
	Can't believe I was able to watch this live.
	Brian, you're also a G.
	And yes, it is 5 a.m.
	By the way, who sent that in?
	It was Ticklefight.
	I probably and Strumpet say you donated $25.
	Thank you, Strumpet.
	From Ion cometh strength.
	From strength cometh will.
	From will cometh faith.
	From faith cometh honor.
	From honor cometh iron.
	This is the unbreakable litany, and may it forever be so.
	Word.
	All right, cool, guys.
	We're going to wrap up the show there.
	It was a very, we started the show a little bit late.
	One of our longer shows, for sure, probably the second longest show ever.
	I think our previous longest show was the last one.
	Not going to try to make this a habit, boys, but it was an interesting panel.
	Anyways, guys, we're going to wrap up there.
	07's in the chat.
	Am I forgetting anything, Nick, or are we good to go?
	All right, let me just.
	I want to double-check that I have the redirect going to Andrew.
	One moment.
	Okay, it should be redirected.
	All right, guys.
	Thank you once again to the wonderful panel.
	I know it's very late here.
	You guys are legends for being troopers and making it to the very end.
	I want to also just thank Nick for also being a trooper.
	He went down to the mean streets of Santa Barbara to go grab someone off the street because we had the no-shows.
	He really hustled at it.
	And actually, shout out to Abigail.
	She helped him.
	And they really hustled.
	They tried.
	It's like graduation week.
	People are gone.
	People have other shit going on.
	They were able to find the Pharaoh girl.
	So on one hand, thank you, Nick, but also not thank you, I guess.
	But no, it was good.
	It was good.
	So good job, Abigail and Nick.
	And then, of course, Nick, you know, I was kind of, I definitely scolded Nick a little bit.
	I was a little feisty.
	So I just, Nick.
	I'd like to take this chance to apologize to absolutely nobody.
	I'm kidding.
	Nick, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry, Nick.
	I was in the wrong.
	It's hard without Madison.
	And, you know, I get a little worked up when no shows happen.
	Anyways, Nick's a fucking legend, boys.
	Be sure to subscribe to his OnlyFans.
	And I'm just kidding.
	He doesn't have one of those.
	But be sure to subscribe to his feet finder.
	You know, he's trying to make some money on the side, boys.
	So.
	Okay.
	All right.
	It's too late for jokes.
	All right, guys.
	Shout out to Nick.
	Shout out to Abigail.
	Shout out to Bad Baby.
	Shout out to that.
	Chelsea.
	Shout out to all y'all.
	I can't even remember our names.
	Shout out to all y'all.
	All right, guys.
	07s.
	07s in the chat, guys.
	Ghost up to Andrew Wilson.
	07s in the chat.
	We'll see you on Tuesday.
	Good night, guys.

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