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Rachel Wilson DEBATES Feminists! GOTH GIRL! Fake VlRGlN?! E-GIRLS! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) | Dating Talk #165

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With that said, and without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
So please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation.
Go ahead.
Hi, I'm Celeste.
I go by Celestial Blacks Online.
I just turned 22 years old.
I'm from Portland, Oregon, but currently I am staying in LA.
And my main job is OnlyFans, but I also tattoo.
I make clothes.
I do photography and videography.
I'm an artist, but OnlyFans is my main job.
Did you tattoo yourself?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah?
Oh, yeah.
Just remind.
Okay.
Oh, sorry.
Yes.
What about you?
I'm Mackenzie.
I'm 19 years old.
I'm originally from Minnesota, but I moved to LA a couple months ago.
My occupational model and actress and Twitch streamer.
I also do social media.
And yeah, also, heads up, chat.
This is so awkward to say.
I have a disorder.
Huh?
Close to the mic.
I have a disorder where I do weird faces and noises and stuff.
Just ignore it.
Just fair warning.
Just don't bully me.
What's the disorder called?
So there's like tourets and like anxiety tics and things like that.
So yeah.
Okay, good to know.
Good to know.
And you do.
You said you do content creation?
Yes.
Are you doing spicy content or no?
No.
So can I like go into something?
I know something called Fan Fix.
It's like a PG version of it.
Okay.
Bear in the woods.
If you can't do windows, cook or clean, stay the F out of the woods.
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Okay, thank you.
Bear in the woods.
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Maybe we'll talk about the whole bear thing a little later on in the show.
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What about you?
My name is Carly.
I'm 23, and I am a UCSB student and a barista.
It's about what are you studying at UCSB?
Political science.
Political science.
And you're a senior?
I am.
Or are you a grad student?
I am a fifth year senior.
Fifth year senior.
Okay, Ben Walder over here.
Dark Secret.
I noticed you're wearing a cross.
You've been on the show twice before.
I thought you were an atheist.
I'm not an atheist.
I'm not Christian.
I just wanted to fit in.
I thought it would fit the vibe tonight.
And I think I was right.
What do you mean?
Just from the pre-show conversations I've heard, I think.
Yeah, I want to extending an olive branch.
It's like finding cocktails.
I think it's a little bit of a fourhopper underscore outdoors donated $69.
Bevo the cuck will let you check his missus for a buck.
Yeah, we'll get into, I'll get into the whole drama of whatever, like all that at the end of the stream.
So yeah.
So, wait, so you're not Christian, but you're wearing a cross?
I am not Christian.
I was raised Christian, so I have a lot of just like cross jewelry and stuff.
So like how do you consider, how do you identify religiously?
I'm kind of agnostic.
Yeah, I would say like agnostic.
I do believe there's a higher power, but I, as a child, sort of stopped believing.
I went to like Bible camp and everything, like youth group.
I just kind of stopped believing.
Well, who here is actually religious?
I mean, one, two, three, four.
So it's like mixed group here.
Okay, well, yeah.
Yeah.
It's just these two.
We're getting into it.
Orthodox, Christian.
What's your denomination?
I'm non-denominational, non-denomination Protestant.
Okay, yeah, so.
A little charismatic.
All right.
Okay, anyways, what about you?
My name is Julia.
I am 29.
I am a technology consultant, and I live in Washington, D.C. All right.
Welcome back.
Thank you.
My name is Leonardo.
I'm 33.
I'm originally from New York, and I am a stand-up comedian.
I also have a disorder that just makes me sound like a bitch.
It's funny.
Yes!
That's awesome!
Okay, what about you?
Okay, my name is Riley Mae Lewis.
I am 20 years old.
I live in Los Angeles, California, and I am a virtual stripper.
A virtual stripper?
Yes, a virtual stripper.
So you do OnlyFans?
I mean, yeah, you could say that.
Okay.
All right.
Good times.
What about you?
My name is Gianna.
I am 18 years old, and I originally live in LA, but right now I'm going to SBCC.
What are you studying over there?
I study communications.
Calm.
Okay.
What about you?
My name is Reika.
I'm a third-year UCSB student, and I study communications.
I'm 19.
I actually just took a gap term in New York, so I'm back visiting for a week and got lucky enough to overlap with the show.
So here I am.
Oh, so you're just in town for a brief period?
Yeah, right now.
And then I'm coming back to UCSB next school year.
So you did spring.
Is it quarter or semester at UCSB?
It's quarter.
I honestly don't know.
It might be semester.
I honestly don't know.
It's quarter.
It's quarter.
Okay, it's quarter.
Yeah.
So you were going.
Did you do.
Wait, because you said you were a third year at UCSB.
You're going into your third year or you're currently a third year?
I'm going to my third year.
You donated $69.
Ladies, what is the largest peen you've ever seen?
Thank you for that.
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What about for me?
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All right.
We're going to have to save that for a little later, okay?
Let me get through the intros first.
But I will make a note to let you know, LARP.
By the way, we can only do one question per chat, so okay.
Fucking off to an interesting start.
Okay.
So you're going into your third year.
You did your freshman year at UCSB then?
Yeah, freshman and sophomore year.
This is my sophomore year.
This is when I just took like a little gap term.
Take a break.
So you're originally from, you said that you spent the time in New York?
Yes.
Okay, so you're from New York?
I'm from Austin, Texas.
I grew up in Texas.
Yeah, I'm from the South.
Yeah, because you got a bit of a Southern accent.
Don't say that.
Do I really?
A little bit.
Do I friendly?
Huck them.
Oh, God.
It's good.
So, wait, what were you doing in New York?
Like a sugar daddy there or something?
Oh, no.
I was just a hostess and taking some classes at NYU.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Nothing like that.
Okay, got it.
All right.
And wait, so you're, and then you're going to go, you're here for a week, go back to New York, and then in the you're coming back for the fall.
Yeah, and I'll go.
Okay, got it.
What about you?
My name is Nicole.
I'm 19.
I'm from Southern California, outside of LA.
And I go to school in Washington, D.C., and I'm studying deaf studies.
Where?
Deaf studies.
Yeah, deaf studies.
I go to Gallaudet.
Wait, deaf?
Studies?
Or deaf.
Oh.
Do you speak sign language?
Yeah.
Yeah, I know sign language.
Oh, okay.
Aussie Infantry donated $69.
Yeah, thank you, man.
Morning from Australia.
Been watching all your videos on Love Your Work Key Pits Up.
Know any good pickup lines?
What's your go-to Brian?
What's my go-to pickup line?
Hi, are you single?
That's ground.
Don't gotta complicate that shit.
All that goofy shit doesn't work.
But yo, thank you for tuning in from Australia, man.
Appreciate it.
What branch of the military are you in over there in Australia?
And where are you stationed somewhere?
Are you still in Australia?
Anyways, okay, you do the deaf studies.
And Rachel, what about you?
I'm Rachel, aka Mrs. Andrew Wilson.
I'm 43 years old, stay-at-home mom, wife, homemaker, researcher, author.
And the patriarchy gave me a day pass to be here via Andrew.
So here I am, thank you.
Look at that.
Day pass.
Patriarchy is very generous and very benevolent.
Benevolent Patriarchy.
I'll be right back to chain to the stove tomorrow.
Okay.
All right, cool.
So we're going to go around the table once more.
What is everybody's current relationship status?
So are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule sex, cold harem, whatever it may be?
If you're single, how long have you been single?
And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you?
Go ahead.
I'm currently single and I've been single for like six months now.
Six months?
Longest relationship?
I'd say a little over a year.
And was that the one that ended six months ago?
No, that one was a little less than a year.
Okay.
Why did that relationship end?
I got cheated on.
Okay.
Oh, orientation.
What do you.
Straight by.
What am I?
I'm pansexual.
Pansexual.
I don't care what you got in between your legs.
I'm more on like your brain.
Like, I'm attracted to your brain.
I think that's sapiosexual.
No, it's also pansexual.
Like, I don't care if you're like trans.
I don't care about anything, like, you know, what you identify as.
So like you'll date a he, they, she, she?
Yeah, as long as I'm attracted to them.
Okay.
All right.
Um, what are your pronouns?
Uh, any, but I go by she, her.
She?
What do you mean?
Any.
Like, I don't care what people call me.
Well, what do you, how do you, but if I were to, sorry, if I were to introduce myself, I would go by she, her.
Okay, got it.
Um, and the person that you dated six months ago, was that a bum?
A homeless/slash bum.
Those are the pronouns.
Yes, but I was giving him housing, so, you know, I was doing my part for the community.
Okay.
And then your one-year relationship, was that a man or a woman?
Trich and Raya donated $69.
Rachel, I bet that fat.
That boy grabs your bras in the morning.
You settled for attending Charm Simp with big tits.
Pull up his shirt and tell me you're fucking proud of that shit.
I'll smack his fat ass.
That's crazy.
Who doesn't love a fat ass, though?
I mean.
Is Andrew watching right now?
Andrew, if you're watching, if you're watching, shave your arms.
Okay.
That's right.
So there's like this.
There's this on.
I think that's probably a fan who's just kind of like obsessed with his ass.
Okay, so here's like the quick story.
Her husband was on this live show, and then there's this like other guy who's like this big, giant, ripped, rich dude.
And like, Andrew is me and him, like, we're going to be joining Weight Watchers together.
You know, we're both a little on the chunky side right now, right now.
Eric Six donated $69.
Women say they are powerless.
My buddy was arrested in Houston by a SWAT team, not fitting the description of Les A suspect, no evidence whatsoever, only the hunch of a female SVU.
Debt and drug addict victim.
All right, Eric G6.
Thank you for that, man.
Appreciate it.
Sounds like he's processing.
Sorry to hear that's terrible.
The fish I cooked an hour ago was also pansexual.
Sizzling with butter, lemon, and rosemary.
That's crazy.
Delicious.
Yeah.
So the one-year relationship, that was also a man?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
And why did your last relationship end?
Well, because he cheated.
Sorry, the cheating.
Yeah, no, bring it up again.
You ended it.
You ended it, correct?
Oh, yeah.
No, I ended it.
Okay, gotcha.
What about you?
I'm currently single.
I've been single for about, I don't know, like a year and a half now.
My longest relationship and like only real relationship was about two years.
Two years.
Was that like a high school relationship?
Yeah, I was my junior and senior year.
Could we have you scoot into the table just a tad?
You can scoot the chair in two.
So you've been single for 1.5 years.
No prospects in the picture.
I mean, I'm kind of just like going on base, but I'm not like dating anyone.
Just.
When's the last time you went on the date?
Actually, last week.
Last week?
Was it the first date, second date, third date?
First date.
First date?
Yeah.
Okay.
And.
Julie Dick Sucker donated $69.
What do you guys think of Black Pancake?
y'all got y'all are out of pocket tonight um bro you got come on man You can't ask ridiculous questions like that.
Okay, all right, moving on.
I'll take this one.
Okay, yeah, let's hear it.
Yeah, we'll give it to you.
We'll pass it to you.
Thank you.
Black pancake nipples are a little disappointing because they never taste as sweet as they look, you know.
And you know what they say?
Once you go black nipples, black pancake nipples.
It's all saggy from there.
I thought you never go.
You never go back.
Wow.
Wow.
You do.
You go running back.
Running back after the.
Okay, good to know.
Good to know.
It's good that someone has experience on that topic.
Okay.
So any other.
Are you cloud flying?
Donated $69.
Brickson looking forward to another great show.
Thank you, man.
Thank you, Cloud.
You're in your presence, greatness.
A modern-day alpha male Brian.
Okay, so.
If he asked you on a date, would you accept remember to vote as his girlfriend?
How much did you pay him to say that?
Nothing.
Nothing.
$69.
They are.
They are on their own.
I don't consider myself an alpha male, but thank you for the endorsement there, Cloud Flying.
I appreciate it.
Okay, well, I'll ask the girls the question, in addition to the large peen one that I have loaded up.
God damn, y'all are crazy today.
Okay.
Would they date me?
We'll ask that after we get through the relationship status, would they?
Damn me.
Okay.
Are you dating multiple guys right now?
No.
No.
Okay, so is there going to be a second date with this guy or no?
There actually was a second date.
We got ice cream.
Yeah.
Okay, so you went on the first date last week, and there's going to be a second date soon.
Yeah.
Well, we had the second date because I was going out of town, so you wanted to see me again before I left.
And then, yeah, we're not going to do that.
Do you think it's going to go the distance or what do you think?
I mean, I hope so.
I don't know.
We'll see.
It's still pretty early.
All right.
What about you?
I'm in a relationship.
Wait, weren't you single?
I was.
Oh, wow.
Congrats.
Okay.
Ring Lights Mundonated $69.
Brian.
What's going on?
Guess which girls have plastic surgery?
Sure.
Why do you look at me?
Boom.
That's it.
Am I right?
Well, that's not fair.
You already knew that.
Well, I still have to guess.
Yeah.
Well, we talked about that.
I think the people that have got it, like, got what do you think?
What do they have?
Yeah, what do you think?
Fake boobs?
What?
No.
Fake boobs?
No.
No, those are.
No.
Yeah, they do.
Oh, that's real.
Really?
It's a lot of fun.
I've never had anything.
No.
Just a dish.
It's just birth control.
Oh.
Yeah.
Or pregnance?
No.
Okay, okay.
Never mind.
Never mind.
That's good.
Yes.
It's audience.
Wait, what did you think you thought?
What do you think I had done?
A boob job?
Fake titty?
No.
No.
I've never got.
I can't get a boob job.
I wish I could.
I have a little lip filler, yes.
I'll be honest on that.
I do.
Okay.
All right.
So you're in a relationship.
Yes.
So this is new.
This is like, what, a month?
Two weeks?
I mean, it's a new relationship, I guess, but it's the same person.
So same.
Not a new person.
I think last time I was on, I said I'd been single for like six months or so.
So you got back together.
Yeah.
Same one.
Okay.
So who kind of reached back out to who?
I would say me, probably.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
Getting stressed out during midterms?
Yeah, basically.
Okay.
What time of night did you reach back out to him?
I think it was actually in the daytime.
Oh, oh, okay.
Yeah, I think it was after class, actually, so you might be onto something with the midterms.
Probably related.
Anyways, what about you?
I'm single.
Okay.
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Ask the women to name three of Shakespeare's plays: Othello, Midsummer's Night Dream, Romeo and Juliet.
Any other girls know any other ones?
Hamlet, Beth, Julius Caesar, Taming the Shrew.
Nice.
Bam.
Got cooked.
So there.
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
Anyways.
Okay, I'm single.
The last time I was dating someone about two months ago.
And my longest relationship was three years.
How long were you dating the guy two months ago?
For two months.
Two months, two months.
Okay.
And why did it end?
Probably because he was six years younger than me.
And so there was just, you know.
There was what?
I think that we were just in different places in our life.
And personality differences.
Okay.
And how did you guys meet?
We met at church.
I was doing a singleness fat.
We have been in the same church for the past two years.
And then it was kind of like we were at this party and it was kind of like the skills came off our eyes and we were like, oh, you're interesting.
Now, before the show, I heard you saying something about Aussie Infantry donated $69.
Not in the military just yet.
Going in on the fourth to basic training for infantry.
Going to retrap the female personnel.
Hashtag occult femism going to the give them books out like candy.
Hey, there you go, man.
That's Rachel's.
That's Rachel's book, Occult Feminism.
Wait, so I'm assuming, like, is there the Army, the Navy?
Just curious which branch.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it, man.
So you said you were somewhere four times.
Are you willing to disclose on the show?
No.
Okay.
Stochastic Decay donated to the next day.
Thank you.
Hi, I'm Stochastic Decay.
I lose money trading financial derivatives.
I also shit post on the internet and super chat on the whatever podcast.
Surprisingly, I'm single.
Mom says I'm handsome, though.
I'll have you know that everybody who super chats and donates and sends in TTSs, they're all giga chats.
$669 blocking.
$669 donated $69.
To know back y'all, you're crazy.
all crazy today so he likes the the pancakes nips Okay, good talk.
What about you, your relationship status?
I am in a committed relationship.
I think my longest relationship, I was married for four years.
That ended because he was a malcontent person who could not go without starting a fight for no reason.
And then I finally got fed up.
So you guys got a divorce, I'm assuming.
Correct.
Okay.
How long have you been seeing your current partner?
About four months.
Four months?
All right.
Okay.
What about you?
I am in a fully committed, one-sided, open relationship.
Yeah, I'm in a fully committed, one-sided, open relationship on his side.
So, you're monogamous and he's sleeping with other women.
Mike Davis donated $60.
Hey, Mike Davis.
I'm organizing a private charter plane abroad for men to meet beautiful traditional women who will treat you like a king.
Western women are so screwed up, and there's no reset button.one in chat for a seat.
What do these people think the women in Europe?
I'm from Europe, by the way.
I was born in Montenegro, and you're going to get a handful, buddy.
You're not going to be able to handle them, so good luck.
Well, I'm Albanian from Montenegro.
Mr. Bullet donated 60.
Thank you, Mike Davis, for the message, man.
Can we care from the public?
I'll join you to join you, Mike Davis.
Greetings to the whatever podcast.
Yo, thank you, Mr. Bullet.
Brian, for the autographed blue-white cups.
One cup.
Two Wilson, one cup.
I'm a company certificate of authenticity.
For record-keeping requests.
Yeah, it's going to be two Wilsons, one cup.
They're going to get one of these cups.
I'm sending it back with Rachel.
I feel like we need to get some, you know, they get damaged.
You want to maybe get some insurance on the cup, just saying when you go back.
I guess so.
They're ripped, rich, and rare.
Hard to get a hold of.
So wait.
Yeah, would you like me to say it again?
Yeah, so how long have you been in the relationship for?
I've been in that relationship for a little bit over a year now.
And open on his end, closed on your end.
Yes.
So do you guys have like threesomes or not even that?
Oh, God.
I don't know.
If that possibility were to arise, which it could have.
Wait, what do you mean you don't know?
Wouldn't you know if you're having threesomes or not?
Can you explain what it is again?
Yes.
I am in a fully committed, one-sided, open relationship on his side.
So he is.
So he fucks other women.
She can't fuck men.
He's allowed to get with anyone, and I am not allowed to get with anyone.
Why?
What draws you to that?
Well, like, he is a very high-value man.
I knew you were going to fucking say that.
I fucking knew that.
Why did you say that?
He's a high-value man.
He is.
He's a high-value man.
Sure.
That's fine.
What are the qualities?
He provides for me in every single way.
He keeps my life extremely entertaining.
Yes, he is rich.
He's attractive.
He checks every single box that a girl could possibly want.
And every girl goes for a man that's in the top 1%.
And there's not that much to go around.
So if you're going to have to share.
But you have to virtual strip?
I choose to do that.
Yeah, that's a good question.
I choose to do it.
But what is the benefit of him being rich if you have to be doing OnlyFans?
No, no, no.
I don't have to be doing OnlyFans.
But what benefits, like, does he pay for shit?
Yeah, he pays for all of my everything.
You live with him?
No, I don't live with him.
Oh, so he'll pay?
He pays for my rent.
He pays for everything.
And you're loyal to him?
I'm loyal to him.
100% loyal.
Okay.
What are you doing with the rest of your money?
Are you investing?
I am investing.
There we go.
Good times.
So do you, is he open about it, though?
He's like, hey, Riley, just letting you know I'm going to go double team some girls tonight.
He always tells me.
I'll be back later tonight, honey.
No, he always tells me.
He tells me everything.
We're very open about it.
At least I think he tells me everything.
Do you need a 24-hour period?
Like if he goes out and smashes other girls, you're going to wait 24 hours before you smash him?
No, no.
There's no 24-hour period.
I'm pretty understanding to it as long as there's not too much of an emotional connection.
Do you feel what, like, when he goes out with a girl, do you feel some type of way about it?
Like, honestly, like, do you feel kind of like, damn, I wish he didn't?
Even though you've accepted it, you're cool with it.
We get that.
But, like, no, yeah, I mean, I'm definitely cool with it in every sense.
And, I mean, there's a reason why he's doing it.
There's a reason why I also agree to it.
I mean, of course, like, you're always going to be like, you know, there's always going to be like a little bit of upsetness.
I don't know.
But, like, it's not, it's, you have to understand, like, why he is able to do that.
And can I ask how old he is?
Um, no.
Older?
No, he's very similar to my age, but I just don't, I just don't want to put that information out there.
Sure, cool.
I was just reading a message that Rachel sent me.
Okay.
Won't get into that, though.
Wait, so okay.
So, how frequently is he getting involved with other people?
I don't know.
I like once a week?
I'm not speaking for recently, but in the past, I actually, I probably shouldn't be saying this.
Saying what?
Like, I don't know.
I just.
That kind of sounds like you're bullshitting.
I would say probably.
That sounds like bullshit.
God, I don't know.
Your friend's laughing.
She knows it's bullshit.
She knows it's bullshit.
Look, she just gave it up.
I just have a terrible poker face.
I don't know any of the things.
I just are private wife, so like I'm.
Oh, God!
Wait, are you guys roommates, housemates?
You guys live together?
We're friends.
Friends?
Okay.
I'm glad that you have a friend this time.
Yeah.
I'm happy for you to do that.
Me too.
Okay, anyways.
What about you?
I'm currently in a relationship, and my longest relationship is two years.
Two years.
Is that your current one?
No.
Okay.
How long's your current situation been going on?
We've been dating for almost about five months.
Five months.
All right.
How did you guys meet?
Well, I've known him since I was like much younger.
So, but I hit him up once, like.
Mike Davis donated $69 to the mid-girl who spoke out of turn.
No planes going to Europe.
Planes going to countries with beautiful African queens and Russia, Ukraine, where the ratio is good.
They're going to eat you alive for sure.
Well, when you go into a cannibal African country, have fun with that.
Brian Scooch donated $69.
Cooch, what is the brunette?
There's a lot of brunettes at this table.
There's a couple brunettes here.
Okay, thank you, man.
Wait, so, Nick, can you pull up quick a photo of Mike Davis?
Her friend.
Oh, is that why she's like, I don't know anything?
I don't know.
Oh, like, her boyfriend is getting behind.
She is the John Wick.
By the way, just FYI for TTS is: if there's like any cursing, it won't trigger the robot voice.
She is the John Wick of Slay Erect D. Who?
I think he's talking about me.
You're the John Wick?
Well, slaying erect, meaning I make people make men lose their boners.
Oh, you, you, oh.
I talk down to them, apparently.
I thought it was funny.
Wait, can we pull up a photo of Mike Davis?
There he is.
That's Mike Davis.
If any of you in the chat want to go with him on his airplane, one in the chat.
Any passport bros out there?
One in the chat.
He owns like 200 Burger Kings on the East Coast.
Very wealthy man.
Giant pee-pee.
We can tell by the photo.
The wealthy part or the GDP people?
No, I thought he worked at Burger King.
Oh, the working at Burger King party, yeah.
Yeah, I would think that.
All right.
What about.
Wait, hold on.
I think I was asking how you met your boyfriend.
Oh, you said like you guys knew each other from school or whatever.
Yeah, well, we didn't go to the same school, but like same soccer team, like at the club.
Like, I was in a club, yeah.
What about you?
So I got out of a relationship about two weeks ago.
And before that relationship was like two months.
And before that, I was in like a one-year situationship that, of course, ended really badly because he didn't want to date me and I did.
And, you know, I tried to move on quick and date this new guy, but honestly, I just didn't have any feelings for him.
So it was like not going anywhere.
And after two months, I just ended it because it was not working out.
So a couple clarifying questions here.
You've been single for two weeks.
Two weeks ago, you ended it with a guy you were seeing for about two months, correct?
But during that two-month period with that guy, you were still hung up on the one-year situationship guy.
Unfortunately, yes.
Okay.
And do you think there were issues in your most recent situation because you were hung up on guy number one from the one-year situation?
I was definitely like all of it, yeah.
Okay.
Well, and the fact that he was like really into social media, like more so than me.
Which one?
The most recent guy or the most recent guy.
My like, yeah, my boyfriend, my ex.
Is it was this guy, you're in New York right now, right?
Yeah, he's from New York.
Yeah.
Okay, so you're dating, he's really into social media.
Is he a content creator?
Yeah, he's like some Instagram model.
Yeah.
He's an IG model?
Yeah.
Should be.
Red flag.
Exactly.
I should have told you.
Wait, does he do like, what's the term for, like, print?
What's the term for?
Well, there's like the guy, Instagram guys, but he actually, like, there's the models who do like print work, I guess.
I don't know, Calvin Klein.
Oh, no.
No, he's like a not famous model, which is like even worse.
I'm fine.
I know he's not successful.
Like 13K.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Yeah.
Instagram.
Okay.
Yeah, I'll adjust in just a sec.
Guys, if you want two more minutes on the 69, then I'm going to bump it.
So wait, okay.
You were in a situation ship for one year?
Yes.
Was it here in Santa Barbara?
Yes.
Was it long?
And it wasn't long distance, right?
You both lived in Santa Barbara?
Yeah, we lived here.
We met here, yeah.
And when you say situationship, so at no point in the relationship did you refer to each other as boyfriend, girlfriend?
No.
I mean, I would call him my boyfriend sometimes.
To other people or to him?
To other people.
Okay, but you guys never had an overt conversation about like a title or are we exclusive?
Yeah, yeah, we had the conversation and he told me that he doesn't believe in titles and he didn't want to be exclusive because he wanted to be with multiple women.
How soon into the situationship did you guys have that conversation?
Two months into it.
Okay, so two months into it, he overtly states he doesn't want a title and he doesn't want to be exclusive.
Yeah.
And then you proceeded to stay with him for 10 months?
I did.
Yes.
I went back to him many times.
Oh, so it was on again, off again?
Yes, because I kept trying to leave.
Chad Luvabitch donated $69.
Miss Joey is lying about her age.
She was born June 29th, 1984.
Her partner is FTM Trans, whose numerous Mexican children are crisis actors, just like the Oba.
What the fuck?
Jai Hanu Man Gen Gun cigars.
Is it a troll?
Yeah, 100%.
But I do like female to male trans, you know, because...
That's your type.
100%.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I try to get some Mexican children so that you're pansexual.
Sure.
Like her.
No, I'm super straight, dude.
Oh.
I don't like any.
This guy wants to troll.
I'll troll him right back.
Imagine spending $69 and writing a loser troll like that.
Damn.
Roasted.
Okay.
Back to you.
Wait, so when you first had the conversation of, I want a title, I want to be exclusive, he said no.
Did you end it right then and there?
Yeah.
I was like, well, I can't keep doing this anymore if you're going to do that.
Mr. Bullet donated $69.
Orders from the Grand Inquisitor.
Is that the?
To the lady wearing the Led Zeppelin t-shirt.
You are not authorized to wear a t-shirt with that band name.
Please change into one with music appropriate for your age.
Wait, question.
Can you name one Led Zeppelin?
I was really scared wearing this, guys.
I'm not going to lie because I knew you were going to ask that.
This is one of my ex-boyfriends.
So he was really into guitar.
I feel like it's a sentimental piece I have, and it was like fitting for today.
So the answer is no.
So you don't know.
I love how you knew they were going to ask that question and you didn't come prepared with one.
Wait, you could have Google.
Finish the sentence.
I'm not going to lie.
Stairway.
What?
Hold on.
This is, I'm giving you a layup here.
Stairway.
To heaven?
Stairway to heaven.
You gave her the two.
Yeah, she needed some help, okay?
Yeah, it's okay.
Wait, so okay.
You broke up with the guy.
You broke up with him.
And then so, but then you got back together how soon thereafter?
Like a week later.
But who reached back out to who?
I reached out to him.
So you dumped him, but then, oh man, you got dick whipped.
Yeah.
I was dick whipped.
Wait, so okay.
So you, and then, because let me ask, in your mind, it was better to have him in your life, even if without commitment, than to be without him.
Exactly.
Yeah, because he was also my best friend, and we were like living in my car together.
So it was a tough situation.
So you were homeless?
I was in, like, living in the dorms, and we had been kicked out of the dorms.
So we were living in the dorms.
The UCSB dorms.
Oh, God.
Wait, why did you get kicked out of the dorms?
What did you do?
My roommate reported me for like 13 different things.
And after the 13th thing, they were like, get the fuck out of here.
Wait.
Table donated $69.
Get a Led Zeppelin chick some cough drops.
Like your woo.
Cough drops?
Her voice sounds fine.
She's saying she has a vocal fry.
Does she?
Oh, do I?
A little bit.
A little bit.
Nice.
That's weird.
I don't know.
Her voice sounds fine.
An accent and a vocal fry.
Southern accent.
Come on, guys.
Leave me alone.
How did you, like, what was like the main reasons you got kicked out of the dorm?
Um, cooking meth wasn't going to be a good one.
I can't put it on the internet.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I don't want to answer that.
Wait, can you give us like a theme?
Like, drug-related, fire-related, pyro-related?
I mean, okay, I guess smuggling-related.
Partying and boy-related.
She was having sex with him in the dorm.
Is that against the rules?
Well, if the roommate doesn't want to see it, dorms don't have any separation.
Like, you just have to do that.
There's like three people in a room.
Yeah, typically there's a little.
I had a roommate who did that.
She slept with a different guy every night.
So I would try to go out and I would just see an ass in the air and I'd be like, I'm going back.
You'd open the door.
There's no door.
It's just four beds in an open room.
And I put up a bookshelf so I wouldn't have to see it.
And then sometimes I'd have to go to the bathroom.
So I'd be going out and I'd just see a new ass in the air and I'm like, all right, I'm going to hold it.
College.
Sometimes I would just walk by and slam the door and be like, just so you know, you're a whore.
Yeah.
We got to talk about women in college.
College.
College.
Okay.
Damn, I feel like it takes a lot to get kicked out of the dorms.
My roommate called the cops on me.
Yeah.
That got me.
Where did you end up?
Technically, like outside of my door.
Like, I had to sit out on the lawn for a little bit.
Put you in the timeout.
Okay.
Wait, so going back to you, you were living in your car.
Was it like, what kind of car was it?
Like a Volkswagen bug or what are we talking?
It was a Cadillac.
That seems pretty spacey.
Yeah, it was like a smaller SUV Cadillac.
How long were you guys living in the car for?
Like three months.
You didn't try to find like a local apartment here in Santa Barbara or something?
Well, no.
That would have like costed money that I didn't have at the moment, you know?
Like all I had was my car.
Okay.
So you guys were roughing it a little bit.
Yeah, we were dirty as fuck.
It was nasty.
I'm in a much better place now.
Don't worry.
She looks so innocent.
I wasn't.
That's what everyone says.
I don't know if I have a baby face.
I'm like, y'all don't know.
Y'all don't know.
It's been crazy.
You put her in the wrong chair.
I know.
Shit.
Okay.
Wait, so hold on.
Okay.
How many times was it on again, off again with the guy?
And were you both living in the car during an off period?
It was.
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Ya.
Thank you, man.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
It's okay.
Was there an off-again period while you guys were living in the car together?
Yeah, it was really awkward because I came back one night and found like we had kept all of our bottles of alcohol and stuff.
And I came back and all of my stuff, all of my alcohol and drugs at the time were gone.
And he had dirty condoms laying all over the car.
There was girls' panties in my back seat.
Wait, other girls' panties.
Yeah. Stop it.
What's in hell?
Holy shit.
Wait, so okay.
Ah, wow, I don't even know what to say.
Damn, that's crazy.
I think she was dating my ex-husband.
There you go.
Maybe.
Wait, did he go to UCSB?
Yeah.
Were you both freshmen?
At the time, yeah.
At the time.
Okay.
And wait, so was he in your same because there's like different dorm buildings at UCSB.
Was he in the same dorm as you?
Like not the same room as you, but like the same dorm.
Yeah, he was in the dorm.
Don't say the dorm.
Don't say the dorm.
I won't.
He was in the dorm right next to me.
Yeah.
Okay.
And wait, was it like the beachside ones?
Yeah, it was.
It was the ones right on the road.
Okay, those ones.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he, but so you got kicked out because of stuff you were doing in your room.
Was he like doing stuff in his?
Because he got kicked out too.
He got like warning after warning.
He didn't officially get kicked out until the end of the day.
Mike Davis donated $69.
Yeah, thank you, Mike Davis.
Let Zeppelin really be talking like she's the main character at girl.
Fellas, this is your fault for validating fours like this.
Hey, I'm about to leave you along the runway if you'll keep enabling this.
Okay, next.
Thank you, Mike Davis.
No, actually, I just want to say.
Mike Davis is savage today.
Holy shit.
Yeah, he's Mike Davis.
Don't take it personally, guys.
We got a lot of roasters in the chat.
They like to roast.
Don't take it personally.
It's all good fun.
I actually do want to commend you for being totally forthcoming and honest with all this stuff because that's interesting.
So just getting back to the relationship dynamic type stuff.
So how many times would you say it was on again, off again?
Like more than I could count.
More than 10 times?
Yeah.
Okay.
And every time was it you ending it?
No.
Like there were many times where he would be like, we shouldn't do this anymore because I obviously don't want anything serious with you.
And you do.
And this is like not going to keep working out.
And then I just kept going back being like, I want to fuck because I like you.
I love the honesty.
Thank you.
Dishonesty is great.
So wait.
So he would, so sometimes you would end it, sometimes he would end it, but was it more often than not, even if he would end it, you would be the one going back?
Yeah, like you'd try to reinitiate?
Yeah.
Okay.
Like I'm saying all this because I would never do that now.
And so like how would that work?
Like during the homeless period?
Would you like drive by the homeless encampment to try to find him or like no?
We weren't homeless.
Like we were like in the dorm parking lot, like just like chilling in the car most of the time and would like go into the dorms to shower.
Like it wasn't okay.
It wasn't terrible living.
What did your parents think of you getting kicked out of the dorms?
No, they were very disappointed.
You know, I have a very tough relationship with my parents.
Okay.
And so, okay, you date this guy for one year.
It was a lot of time.
I don't think, sir, I've been talking for a while.
You should move to this.
Okay, I'll move it on in a little bit.
I just want to get a few more clarifying questions in.
So, are you still in touch with this guy?
Yeah, he's like one of my best friends.
Wait, so have you seen him recently in person?
Yeah.
Have you seen, did you see him today?
No.
Did you see him yesterday?
No, I just got here yesterday.
Oh, you just got back from, because you're here for like a week?
Yeah.
Okay.
And then you're going back to New York.
Okay.
So you're here.
Are you planning to meet up with him while you're here?
Yes.
In your Cadillac or what?
What kind of car was it?
No, I sold my car actually.
Oh, you sold your car?
Yeah.
Does he have housing or is he homeless still?
No, he lives in a house now.
Oh, he's got a house.
Okay, okay.
All right.
And he's a third, you said you're a third year, or going into, so he's a second year.
Yeah, we're both going to be third years.
All right.
Do you still love him?
Yeah, I do.
Did he ever, wait, did you would you tell him I love you?
Yeah, I would right now.
Did, well, no, no, but like, have you told him I love you?
Yes, I have.
I've told him I love you many times.
Did he ever say I love you?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
So, but he never was willing to give you commitment or a title, correct?
Yeah, because he wasn't in love with me.
Like, he loved me.
Word.
Okay.
Well, we'll come back to that maybe later.
What about you?
I'm in a relationship.
I just got into a relationship not that long ago.
And my longest relationship.
Door splits.
My longest relationship was nine months in high school.
So one month ago you got into one?
It was not that long ago.
I don't really remember how long ago it was.
Recently.
This is a couple weeks.
Yeah.
Longest relationship, nine months.
Nine months, yeah.
All right.
How did you meet this current guy?
At church.
What denomination are you?
I'm Catholic.
Catholic, okay.
All right.
And Rachel, what about you?
I've been in a relationship for 17 years with the legend Andrew.
We've been married for 12.
And since I already see my haters, my very dedicated and committed haters sending super chats, yes, let's just address the elephant in the room.
I have children with my two previous relationships.
So people assume things, right?
People make assumptions.
I have crazy trolls who've made all kinds of videos saying wild, nutty things.
So I just want to clear this up.
I've never been promiscuous ever in my life.
I've been in three long-term committed relationships, two marriages.
There was never any catting around.
I've never cheated on anybody ever in my life.
Andrew was not married and cheating on some person with me.
Like, people have made up the craziest stuff.
So it's not even like that.
But we can get into that if people just have to know about what happened in my life 23 years ago.
But no, been with Andrew only for 17 years.
All right.
By the way, guys, we have just boosted the Reed and TTS triggers back up to the normal.
So thank you for everybody.
You got those early ones in.
So, wow, okay, we got everybody's current relationship status.
So I want to see if there's anything I wanted to.
Wait, actually, question.
Coming back to you.
You said you've been single for two weeks.
Have you had a rebound from the two-month guy?
Are you talking to me?
No, I'm not talking to you.
Okay.
Yeah.
Oh, wait.
Sorry, what'd you say?
You've been single for two weeks.
Have you had a rebound?
No.
I haven't cooked up with anyone.
And I wanted to come, let's see, to actually, let me just get into my pre-show notes here.
And then let me pull that up, guys.
So we have.
Let's go to Leonarda.
You were a former feminist.
Correct.
And now you're a current anti-feminist?
I don't know.
I'm a hardcore conspiracy theorist, and I realize the truth about a lot of propaganda that's being fed both to feminists and the red pill male community, which is the male version of feminism.
And then I see the repercussions of that on women, even here, right?
Because they teach them a lot of BS.
Who's they?
Women's studies department.
Well, I think communists have taken over our whole system.
I think they've taken over the university system.
They've taken over the media for sure.
They push promiscuity, degeneracy as liberation.
And the only ones who benefit off of women freely giving away sex are deadbeat guys who do not want to give you anything.
They just want to take.
So your guy in the car is a verifiable loser who will probably never do anything with his life, will continue to grift on women.
He was hanging around because he had a free ride with you, and he gave you just enough to keep you interested.
I've known these men in my life.
I've seen it for women.
And I try to do my best to tell young women that they're under the thumb of oppression, even though it's being presented to them as liberation.
Yes.
Let's go.
That was great.
Oh, you're not all supposed to agree.
You're supposed to fight with us.
Well, I think you disagree.
She will type less.
I do disagree.
Not with the premise.
I would agree with everything you said about this guy, although you are 19 years old, and I feel like that's just a classic 19-year-old experience.
I don't know what that has to do with feminism.
Classic 9.
Well, I'll tell you right now, it's a classic.
I'm going to say 200 Judas.
Mrs. Wilson, F the haters, you owe no one any explanations, and your haters will never believe you anyway.
Your actions speak louder than any words they can scream.
Blessing to you and Andrew.
Thank you, Grid One.
I appreciate you, man.
Good to see you in the chat, Grid One.
Go ahead with your point.
So, what that has to do with feminism, first of all, it's not a common 19-year-old experience.
It's presented as a common 19-year-old experience, and it's relatively new in our modern age.
And you really want to say probably since the mid-90s, early 2000s.
And that's really when this whole promiscuity with women's been pushed.
Second of all, the reason it has to do with feminism is because feminism teaches women that having casual sex with a man is within their scope of being equal and on par with men.
And by being that way, they are liberated and empowered, which is total BS.
Whereas women have known for centuries that their sex was of huge value and would demand something in return for that that would actually show them their worth.
Yes.
So that's exactly what it has to do with feminism.
I don't think that I have ever heard that from.
I'm current.
When did you graduate college?
Like what year?
2012.
Okay, so it's been a while since you've been in college, so I'm not sure like I didn't have this in my college education, by the way.
I went to a Jesuit university that was pretty fantastic and did not give me this BS.
I was going to say, I mean, I'm currently in college for a little bit too long, and I have never heard any of this from any professors.
I've never heard any of this from my peers.
Heard what exactly?
That casual sex is empowering.
You don't watch TV, you don't see it on social media, you don't hear it in the music, you don't hear Cardi B and What's Her Face being like my wetland?
I'll give you Cardi B, maybe music, maybe like rap.
I mean, that's the culture.
What is that reflective of?
The fact that that's in the mainstream means it's been accepted by people.
They could have never put that on TV.
I mean, women were accepting pretty brutal treatment from men pre-feminism.
Would you say that?
Oh, we can get into that.
I'm sure we can.
My parents are old.
My parents are 65 and 75.
I know what was happening in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s.
From women, from the perspective of your two parents, you're going to generalize to the whole population?
My parents have friends.
I mean, are you going to generalize the population from her experience with a bum?
No, not at all.
I'm generalizing from reading.
I also read.
And I am currently in college, and I'm telling you that no one I know who's a soch major, I don't know any feminist studies majors, but none of them are hearing this.
I've never encountered a communist.
Let's say they're not.
Are your friends engaging in casual hookups?
No, not my friends.
Not your friends.
But are women on campus engaging in casual hookups?
Undoubtedly.
And they were also doing that in the 90s, 80s, 70s, even the 60s and the 50s.
You're talking about the sexual revolution, right?
Me?
Yeah, well, I mean, that is when the sexual revolution was happening, right?
So I'm talking pre-feminism.
Do you know when feminism started?
Do I know, like, the, there is no date around the world?
I mean, let's, yeah, we, go ahead, go ahead.
Oh, I was going to say, like, I would say, like, as an actual political movement, probably like the early 1900s, late 1800s.
But I think that's the only thing that's going to talk about the right to vote.
Yes.
No, not just that, but I mean, like, having a sort of like political consciousness that women are lacking something politically and like trying to think was like John Adams' wife, don't forget the ladies, like that kind of stuff has been around for a long, long time.
Right.
And this sexual push to make women be more promiscuous.
Do you know when that really started?
I mean, if we're talking about like the sexual revolution, I would say probably late 60s, 70s.
Right.
So that would be the whole time period that you were saying that women were engaging in casual sexuality.
Well, no, women were engaging in casual sex before the sexual revolution.
I think that the push was more to normalize it.
And I'm not saying that I think that it's a good thing.
I really don't.
But.
You don't see the connection to feminism with that.
That's what you're saying.
No, obviously the sexual revolution is connected to feminism.
I'm saying that casual sex was happening before that.
Right, but you don't.
Not on a mass scale.
You don't see the push between casual sex and women.
I mean, there is a low consciousness among women these days about what they can command in exchange with a man.
It's incredible.
I would agree with that, honestly.
I see your point there.
I think that women accept subpar treatment constantly, but I don't think it's feminism.
I think it's 100% the consequence of feminism, which is ironic, but again, I think we live in a satanic world that presents everything upside down from the opposite of what it is.
So they present to you feminism as your liberation and your empowerment, and it ends up doing the exact opposite.
I'm just curious who you think they is.
Like, do you think every woman looks to Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion for their like hiding morals?
It's pervasive.
It's everywhere.
You put on reality TV, they're doing it.
You put on the Kardashians, they're doing it.
You put on music, they're talking about it.
You put on rap music, they're talking about it.
You put on anything.
It's all over.
You put on even like, I don't know what it's called, the white people music where they're like playing, I don't know, it's all really sad.
They're all depressed.
Like the coffee house music.
Stuff like that.
They're talking about the same stuff, you know, and so it's pervasive.
Like, when you are swimming in the water, you cannot see it.
But it is every once you start to see it, you see it everywhere, and it's pretty disgusting.
Well, I have a question.
Super-based, by the way.
Go ahead.
My question is: what would be an effective counter-movement?
Because it seems like you're saying that women are being oppressed.
So, wouldn't a movement for women's actual liberalism?
Actually, I think women are oppressing themselves.
I think that's see, that's the best thing a demon can do: get you to hurt yourself and harm yourself.
Yeah, so wouldn't we want to elevate women's consciousness about that, like social consciousness about that?
Yeah, that would be like, in my opinion, I think feminism has changed over time.
Correct.
And I think it's gotten worse.
I think it would be a really effective movement to take back feminism because I feel like you guys agree on a lot of the stuff about casual sex isn't beneficial for women.
And an effective way to communicate that to women is to say, I'm a feminist.
I actually want you to stand up for yourself.
I want you to, you know.
Yeah, well, in general, I don't like labels.
Feminism as it is was constructed by the CIA with Gloria Steinem.
She was in the CIA.
It's very well documented, so I don't want to use a label like that.
I think it's just too tainted.
I, in general, don't really like labels.
I don't ascribe to being a Democrat or a Republican.
I think they're both pieces of shit most of the time.
Sorry, I don't know if I could say that.
But I think the more effective thing would be, I think you need to approach women with a tremendous amount of compassion.
Yeah, and I think women and education.
Oftentimes, women respond to feminism.
So that's why.
Well, I don't know if they respond.
I don't really think they're thinking most of the time.
But I mean, are you saying, well, if they don't respond to feminism, then how are they getting these messages that feminism is pushing and how are they implementing that in their lives?
Well, they are listening.
So they're not going to be a little bit more listening.
So you're right.
I hold on with you.
Hold on.
I said, I don't think they're thinking about it.
A lot of times when things are advanced on many levels, we accept it without conscious thought.
There's a difference between that.
We'll just accept, like, oh, that's true.
Like, for example, everybody thinks we should drink eight glasses of water a day.
We weren't doing that when we were in the wild.
We were totally fine.
Why is that now common knowledge?
Well, I think it's because they put fluoride in the water and they want everybody getting enough of it.
That's my opinion.
Now that we get to the fluoride because I'll always tie something back to fluoride, dude.
I think fluoride makes people passive and it makes you passive, it lowers your IQ and it makes you unresistant to propaganda.
And now you said in your pre-show notes that you think that you kind of already touched on this, how promiscuity was is a CIA psyop.
Correct.
Psychological operation.
I think they did it to the men first with James Bond and presenting this guy as like superhero.
James Bond is a psyop.
Correct.
James Bond is a psyop.
If you know who wrote the James Bond novels, he was actually an intelligence officer.
There you go.
It's to make the intelligence agencies seem cool and like they're protecting you and they're the good guys.
And then in addition to that, they threw in a sexual promiscuous suity angle for men so that men would think, oh, this is what I aspire to.
Now, there always have been men within the population.
It's a small percentage who are promiscuous.
They're geared that way.
They're wired that way.
They're also usually the most aggressive.
We needed them to be fighters.
However, that was not the preponderance of men who acted that way.
Most men wanted to find a woman, wanted to cherish her, wanted to have children, wanted to provide for her.
Well, I still feel like that doesn't really answer what would be an effective way to combat that.
I still don't know.
So my thing that I think the effective way to combat that is number one to raise awareness so that women can understand what they're being presented with.
Well, wouldn't that be effective through feminism?
That's my point.
Why would that be effective through feminism?
Feminism is teaching the exact opposite.
Well, I'm saying you hijack the movement and you change it.
The movement has changed so much through time that do you mean by hijack the move?
What should the new messaging of the new feminist movement be?
Well, I mean, I think that we understand that the sexual revolution and women having casual sex, it's been painted as you know as beneficial.
So if you reframe it.
You understand that.
And you come from a Catholic background.
You cannot think that that is what most women are thinking.
They're not thinking that at all.
Right.
Yeah.
No, you're right.
That's why I'm saying it would be more effective to communicate that through saying, I'm on your side.
You know, I feel like it's just not really very effective to communicate that through saying, you know, just feminism gives a really good framework for saying, I support women's liberation.
And I think real women's liberation is liberation from what?
From this, like things like the sexual revolution.
Right.
Okay, but what was the original goal?
Sure, yeah.
I mean, I guess when you ask a woman, what's feminism liberating you from, she'll say the evil patriarchy.
Yeah, and I mean, would you say that it's sort of a patriarchy that women are under, that men are using women for just sex and novelty?
There's some women that are complicit in that.
Like, for example, Gloria Steinem was part of that.
Frankly, I think it's because she was ugly and nobody liked her.
And then she wanted to go ahead and reduce other women to her competitive level because she could never compete with a truly beautiful and intelligent woman.
And so she's decided to reduce everybody's worth by doing this.
Yeah, I agree.
So there's plenty of women, and I know older women who go through the feminist thing realize they're miserable.
They're in their 40s, they're childless, they don't have kids.
Which I'm not saying every woman needs to do that, but a lot of women will realize that they've missed something.
And then instead of owning to their mistakes and teaching younger girls to not go that way, they enroll them in the same behavior, and that is evil.
And I don't think women should do that.
No, I'm completely taking it out of an ideology of like, oh, it has to be feminism, it has to be some movement.
Because I think if you really focus more on like an overall morality, and that can be your focus.
But we don't want to do that, right?
Like the like this, there's been a wave of we don't want a religion, right?
Like America is getting increasingly secularized.
And so then when we want to create morals, we have to then hide behind a political ideology or like feminism or communism or an ism because we can't align our to get our morals because we can't align with a religious religion.
And so then everyone's confused.
And so that's why it's like, oh, but now if I'm not a feminist, I'm anti-woman.
And there's all this kind of weight behind either being a feminist or not being a feminist.
And that's where, so now like politics has trying to take the role of what religion used to be in our society.
And I think that's where it's getting so detrimental.
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Can we talk about Disney and the princess effect?
How about Rockefeller and the public school system?
So many control mechanisms, so little patriarchy.
I'm not familiar with Disney and the princess effect, but I am familiar with Rockefeller, the public school system, and the way they took over the medical system.
And pretty much just they are advancing a lot of control mechanisms that way because they put people in schools and indoctrinate them from a young age with these thoughts.
But the reason I don't think that it presents well to say I'm a feminist is because number one, feminism already has such a clear meaning and definition for people.
Does it?
It really does.
Based on what you guys say about feminism, it doesn't because you say things that are completely at odds with what I hear, actual people my age who are in college, what they think about it.
It doesn't seem like you're really what do people your age think about it about feminism?
They don't think that it's a conspiracy being you know like an anti-nature satanic conspiracy.
I think you might have a little something going on.
I think that's right.
No, You got to qualify that statement a little bit.
I'm just calling me crazy, even though it's well documented that Gloria Steinem is a creative person.
I think you have a little conspiracy-minded thing going on where you're looking for a conspiracy and everything.
No, I just am informed and educated, and I'm not arrogant enough to assume that my ignorance means that somebody else is crazy.
I mean, I can also say I'm informed and educated, and I, you know, like we can go back and forth saying that forever.
Well, so do you know then that what she's saying about Gloria Steinem is not only correct, but that through the Congress for Cultural Freedom in the 60s and 70s, the CIA was pushing feminism through like 40 different publications around the world.
They sent people to sort of Gloria Steinem was like a CIA operative.
Gloria Steinem is not the only feminist in the world.
It's not just her.
I'm saying the Congress for Cultural Freedom, which was a widespread CIA program that went around the world in dozens of countries and had hundreds of magazines, newspaper outlets, all pushing feminism.
This was not just like one lady.
This was like a broad effort during the Cold War to kind of differentiate Western liberal values from Russia.
So they pushed feminism in the sexual world.
I mean, are you anti-like classical liberalism and Western liberal values?
I absolutely am.
But you're also anti-communist.
I'm very curious what.
I mean, maybe that's off topic, but you can be both.
Both communist and you can be against communism and against Western liberalism.
I don't mean liberalism in like liberal versus classical liberalism, which is the American founding.
Okay.
I'm against that.
Okay.
Sorry, go for it.
Oh, no, you go for it.
I was just going to say that, you know, I believe that you guys can be completely correct.
Like, everything you're saying is correct.
And how feminism is a psyop?
Just, I'm saying psyop back.
I feel like that's the best.
No, I understand what you're saying.
I think you're, I just disagree that that would be the best way.
That's all.
I just don't see a better route because I have personally, I mean, I have the same experience.
I've never had any friends who are genuine feminists who read literature say that they're pro casual sex and that it's really healthy for women to do that.
I've never ever heard that ever.
Well, here's what you guys need to understand: that feminism is anything that pushes back against patriarchy and moves toward egalitarianism.
So if you think the sexes are equal, we should all have equal rights, so we can get into rights and what you think that all means, but anybody who is saying patriarchy is bad is feminist, whether they identify or know that or not.
So if you think that just like, oh, we have to push for women to be equal with men and women have been historically oppressed, that's all feminism.
Whether you think it is or not.
Well, you know, for like egalitarianism and stuff, from my understanding, you believe that egalitarianism means that men and women are just on equal planes?
It means that they should have like equal rights and equality, equality of some people would say equality of outcome, some people would say equality of opportunity.
Doesn't really mean that.
Yeah, but it's on an equality of outcome now.
That's right.
That's what they mean by it.
Let me think.
I have to think.
I'm sorry.
I just don't think that you guys will ever successfully convince, or whatever movement or not movement you want to be a part of will ever successfully convince the female population that they should not.
At least I agree with you, which is why.
Fight for what?
Sorry, continue.
Fight for egalitarianism, whatever that means too.
What is it that women don't have now?
What is it that women don't have now that men have?
I'm not saying that there is an imbalance currently or is or isn't.
I'm saying that I don't think it's.
But do you understand the problem?
We'll never be able to convince women to not fight for something that they already have.
If they already have it, then what about this problem you're talking about where women are allowing men to mistreat them?
Correct.
Because women, the rates of depression among women, women are so unhappy and it's gone, like it's, there's a correlate, there's a direct correlation with levels of unhappiness of women documenting.
Okay, so it sounds like women have something that men don't have, which you're claiming is that it's not a problem.
But hold on a second.
No, no, no.
Don't do that.
You're shifting tides.
First of all, you said that women, that you'll never be able to stop, you'll never be able to convince women to stop fighting for equal rights.
And I said, what is it that we don't have that men have in that department?
Now, what she's pointing out is a consequence of that very fight because the supposedly well, it's a consequence of the feminist.
But how can you say that?
There's a ton of questions.
Because it correlates directly with the rise of the movement.
But it also correlates with, like, it correlates with crime passing.
It correlates with a bunch of 90%.
You could blame it on the 11th.
Do you know what year 9-11 happened?
Well, you didn't mention the 70s.
I'm saying you could.
I'm saying you could literally point to any random event that happened throughout history and say, well, this is why women started.
You're 100% correct.
The correlation does not equal causation.
However, there is a strong connection between these things that we see women who continue along the path that quote-unquote feminism would get you to.
By the way, the extreme of feminism, because I did study feminism, is a lesbian separatist feminism in which they want to live on an island away from men, use them for their semen, only keep the female.
I'm not kidding.
This is a real thing.
Now I'm familiar with lesbian separatism.
You can look it up.
My issue is: number one, I don't think men and women should be at each other's throats.
And this goes for the right-wing movement, too, which is a little bit of your podcast, where they set men up to see women as these evil, like manipulative creatures.
And then women are set up to see men as these like evil, tyrannical, power-hungry creatures.
There are both of these things within the population.
I've had experience with both of them.
I'm not saying they don't exist.
But however, to have a movement that continually tells women, this is what they want from you, sets us up to be unhappy because I believe we are made to be in partnership with the other sex and not at war with them.
I think my problem with just what you're saying in general is I think we're diagnosing the same issue.
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I have a really high run on the number of likes for this show.
Shut up, Pleptonic Woman in Black.
Make me, bitch.
Anyway, so I was just saying.
I think that we have the same, like, we're diagnosing the same problem.
Would you agree with that?
I'm not sure.
Okay, I'm saying that my problem is that I think that men are taking advantage of women via casual sex and the sexual revolution.
Correct.
I also think men themselves are a victim of this propaganda.
Yeah, I completely agree.
But I'm just saying I don't see an effective solution for it other than what I've proposed.
And I don't see hijacking feminists.
I did give one.
I said, I believe that we should approach women with compassion, raise their consciousness so they can truly understand the problem.
How?
What would be the way to do that?
Well, this is one way.
Education, speaking up.
They could read my book and find out the truth about how all of this went down and that it wasn't this grassroots movement where women looked around in the 1800s and went, oh my God, we're oppressed.
We have to march in the streets until we have voting rights and bank accounts.
And that it was just this thing that's time had come because it's complete bullshit.
It's not true and that's not how it happened.
It was an astroturf movement from the beginning, from the 1700s or even further back if you want to go there.
So this idea that there is even such a thing as like, oh, we can have women's rights and egalitarianism only at the behest of the men who are going to enforce it for you anyway.
So I think if you just get through to women about some of these things, it will help.
But also, do we really want to like depend on turning the opinion of women toward how things ought to be?
Well, I think that I mean, I'm just, I'm only referring to the sexual revolution.
Like, I'm not talking necessarily about egalitarianism or anything.
I mean, you say we approach women with compassion.
Correct.
I mean, I think the women who are reading your book are probably already agree with you.
Correct.
Me?
Yeah.
I get messages every single day from women around the world who thought they were picking it up to debunk it.
I'm going to prove this bitch wrong.
And then they read and they go, shit.
They check the source material and they're like, damn, she's right.
And then it changes their mind.
Well, I'm sure people can be.
I'm sure that a lot of people will read it and agree with you and change their minds.
I'm just saying that wouldn't the most effective way to change people's minds who are already feminists be telling women you are being oppressed because of this same thing that we're all agreeing on.
We can tell them it's bad for them, but that doesn't mean they're going to listen, especially when they're young and the entire culture is Leonardo.
Wait, so what's your prescription?
My prescription is by basically psyoping feminism.
Because I mean, that's a hijack feminism and hijack feminism.
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Marxists preach the oppressor narrative.
Victim mentality makes people fail and be unhappy.
That's of the connection to women's unhappiness.
Yo, thank you, Brandon P. Middleton.
We have another one coming in, so I'm just going to preempt it here just in a sec.
I appreciate it, Brandon.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
And then we have, oh, lol paladins.
I'll just read it.
We have your shirt is arguing with the wrong person.
The only smart woman other than Miss Wilson I've seen on this podcast in the past year, she should direct her rage elsewhere.
I don't think she's talking about you.
She's rage.
It's the rage of the pink shirt.
Wait, am I raging right now?
I don't think so.
We do have David Treziak who says, Let's dance.
You were good last time.
Ironic shirt meaning for debate or double enting for dating show.
Grabbing my tin hat now.
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Okay.
So I'm very surprised to receive a nice comment.
Thank you.
Yeah, see, that's not all bad.
You seem, you've been scowling for the past 20 minutes.
What's do you have input on this comment?
Yeah, you've been like.
Oh, no, I've just been like, honestly, like, watching, sorry, watching back and forth.
Oh, okay.
I just, like, I kind of honestly got a little lost in the sauce on what they were talking about because I couldn't tell whether or not at first I thought they were saying like, oh, they're feminist, but then I realized that they were saying they're not feminists.
And so I don't know.
To me, feminism is just like equality.
That's it.
Like, just women and men being aware of the people.
Do you think it's possible for women to be equal with men?
And what do you think equality is?
I do.
I think that both genders definitely like bring different things to the table, you know?
But what do you mean by equality?
Like, what would be an example?
Equal pay and stuff if they have the same jobs and everything, like equal pay, you know?
Okay.
Equal rights.
Equal rights.
Okay.
And then if women have equal rights with men and they have the same opportunities, does that mean they should have the same responsibility?
Should you have the same responsibility and authority to go with your rights?
Well, I mean, I think any adult should, you know?
Like, I don't think it's whether you're a man or like a woman.
So I think if you're an adult, you should have responsibility for yourself in general as opposed to.
Wait, Nick, Nick, are we at risk of getting a nip slip from this chick?
I don't.
My nip is in the border.
Do you have so?
Do you have pasties or anything you can put on?
No, we've talked about this.
I definitely like.
What do you mean we talked about this?
Like, he asked me if I had pasties and I said.
Nick, pull up the chat because they've been probably paying more attention than me.
So hold on.
Got to stop the show.
Pull up the chat, please.
Chat, it's hard for me to tell.
I'm paying attention to the conversation.
This TV show, it's hard for me.
TV, it's hard for me to tell.
Are we at risk of getting a fucking nip slip from this chick?
One in the chat if it looks risky.
Because otherwise you're going to have to put on your jacket or some shit.
It's been getting, I've been, look, and it's way too fucking close.
Hey, would you stop oppressing her with your toxic masculinity, please?
What?
Is it not?
She's fine.
See, if these guys were smart, they would say no where.
I know what comes with the troubles of a nip slip.
So if you guys were in danger, I wouldn't risk the biscuit.
So they're pretty divided.
I'll make sure they're tucked.
Tuck them in.
Tucked good.
I don't know.
I'm not a woman, so I don't know.
Do you guys think it's everyone stare at my tiny bit?
Everybody's staring at it.
Look, I gotta fucking do it.
I'm not risking it.
You're probably right.
I don't know how high up your nipples are.
Yeah, I'm gonna work for nipples.
Yeah, there's a star right here.
It's a little risky on the left side.
So maybe you're just halfway.
Yeah, I think the left side, and you're good.
They're tucked.
I mean, you have a jacket if you get dangerous.
It's just a little hot, but not too hot.
I'm like in between, being hot and cold.
But like, no, I think I pulled up my shirt even more, so it should be good.
Maybe just can you put your shirt on a little bit just so we're not risking this shit.
All right.
All right, it should be good.
It should be good.
Okay, so what I wanted to ask is, so you just outlined some rights that you think women should have.
Do women have duties?
Yes, they do.
What would be an example of women's duties to society?
Well, I mean, if they choose to be a mother, that's one of their duties.
But like, you know, people.
Well, a duty isn't a choice.
Those things are mutually exclusive.
So is there a duty that women as a, because we know men have duties.
Men have a duty to protect, to provide.
They have to build all the infrastructure.
They have to defend the nation.
So what are women's voice?
I don't think that's what you're doing.
Not when there's a draft.
Not when there's a draft.
And who else is going to build the infrastructure if men don't do it?
Nobody.
Oh, I mean, I just think that men and women could do it.
No, I think there's women in the force.
Are you saying woman or women?
Because those are different.
Woman is one.
Woman.
Women is more than one.
Well, I'm pronouncing it, I guess, differently than you said, but I'm saying women.
She's saying the plural.
Yeah, like women in general.
I can't hear the difference with a lot of these younger girls.
They say that we're the same, so I wasn't sure.
So we know men have duties to provide and protect.
If men aren't out keeping the electrical grid up, there's going to be problems, right?
I mean, I know it's more of a man's job, but like women can do that job too.
No, they can't.
Yes, they can.
You don't see any women doing that.
Do you know?
Do you know what it entails to create and lay concrete?
It is impossible.
They can't do it.
They can't go do nothing.
Okay, but there are men who also can't do that.
There are disabled men that are really small.
But the only people who can do it are men.
I know.
But the thing is, there are plenty of men who aren't doing that.
So you could say it's a man's duty, but you can't generalize and say it's all men's duty, just like you can't generalize and say all women's duties is.
It's the duty of men to provide, protect, and build the nation.
And they're not the only ones you can do.
And lots of them physically can.
There are some, but that doesn't mean I see a lot of men who I don't think would last very long.
I don't see any women that would be able to do it.
Okay, I certainly can agree with that.
But it doesn't, we can talk about generalizations and outliers, but I'm asking, do women have any duties to society, or is it just she needs to do what makes her happy?
She doesn't need to build menu.
Like women produce the next generation.
Yeah, they should, but they're not.
Have you guys taken a look at the moment?
They are, because if you're not.
Oh, have you taken a look at that?
I say that, because if you say that the birth rates are even Mexicans are below replacement now, but like simulated.
Saying that they're not.
I agree that there is a decline in terms of the value of motherhood.
And I personally think that that should be something that is valued again.
It's a very important role.
And there should be no shame in wanting to be a mother.
And I think a lot of, you know, as a young woman, you get this, you're kind of torn where you're definitely led on a path of education.
And that's important.
I mean, education is great.
And we are a more privileged generation.
So our parents, in general, had enough money to at least want us to get an education.
We got an education.
We get a good job.
Well, later, and then this is a little bit of a lot of old woman crap.
Well, let me finish on saying, Rach.
Rach.
Let me finish.
So then you have a job, you get your job, and then all of a sudden you're 29.
You are 30, 31, 32.
Now you have like a short time span to get into this relationship, to get married.
The guy feels pressure.
If you've been on birth control, that's going to make it hard to actually conceive because that impacts your fertility.
You have to wait for that stuff to wear off.
So there are these problems.
So I think that the age of responsibility of motherhood has been pushed out.
But the problem is that because of like the biological restrictions and limitations on a woman's body, we can't we feel that pressure.
And so it's this catch-22 and you want to.
And so I don't think it is a catch-22 though.
Well, but it's either you pursue education and get a career or you be a mom.
And that's a hard, it's hard.
It's actually not hard at all.
And here's why.
Because why are we telling young women to take your most fertile years when you should be having babies and spend that entire decade of your 20s chasing an education, which the average woman goes $40,000 into debt to get, and she makes an average of $40,000 a year, which is a terrible deal, right?
So we tell them to go to all this college, get into debt to get your degree, and then do the career thing like you just said.
And then all of a sudden at 30, flip a switch and try to get at least 2.1 babies out of them.
That's stupid and it's never going to happen.
So why do we give young women that advice?
I mean, and I don't think, I think 95% of y'all don't have any business being in a university at all.
I mean, it would be great if you could pause.
If you could pause and like, and like, yeah, take advantage of your fertile years, right?
And then you go into school.
But like, that's no, you don't need to go to school.
What do women need to go to school for?
Have you ever taken a look at what they major in?
Who's going to spread?
Right?
Political science.
Okay.
Who's going to do this anti-feminist movement if there aren't learned, learned women in the world who are?
You know what you're right?
I will say this.
I didn't go to college.
I never went to college.
I had my first baby at 20 the way the Lord intended.
That's beautiful.
And you're obviously very intelligent and can speak very well.
No, I don't need a bullshit university.
But I will say in a bunch of debt.
But I will say what, like, a realistic, just a reality is it's so expensive now.
I mean, like, live in any city.
Why do you want to be a homeowner?
Why do you do that?
Why do you think college is so expensive?
And no, I'm not saying college.
I'm saying after college.
I'm saying you need a job, you need a cost of living.
And so also, and if you're, you know, why that's that?
Because more people entered the workforce.
And so which people?
Women entered the workforce.
Women entered the workforce in mass in the 1970s.
Just one second, guys.
Goth of feminism, I wouldn't be able to have a triple-digit body count and no kids.
Population.
Triple digit.
Question for the panel.
Would you date a guy with 100-plus body count?
Show of hands if you would.
No, his ability to bond has been destroyed.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, she would.
Nobody else.
Oh, you would date a guy 100 plus percent.
Dating a guy with 100-plus body counts.
Can I ask continue on with yourself?
So, your husband's name is Andrew.
So, does he want, does he not want your daughters to go to college?
He doesn't want them to go to college.
They haven't so far.
They haven't.
They've done, they've been homeschooled and then they were able to do a little bit of trade school.
Like, one of them does dental assisting, the other one does culinary arts.
Free education, no debt, something so they have a little job they can do until they get married because the world is the way it is.
I'm not saying I don't understand the situation we're in, but I think it's a horrible idea.
95% of women go to college, they get bullshit degrees, and she's like interior design.
95% of all people do not belong in college because they are mentally, well, I can't say the word, but they're not well.
But so, the issue I think that she was bringing up when she was asking you about the rights is people don't understand that the minute there's a right, there's also a corresponding duty on somebody to enforce and allow that right.
And so, actually, I think most rights are total BS, male and female, right?
And I don't, I'm not, and I think you might have the idea that I'm in a prescription that somehow women should go back to being a second-tier citizen or something, which I don't know that we were.
I wasn't around in that time to say that we were.
I don't necessarily agree that women shouldn't be educated because if women are going to raise children, they should be intelligent enough to know how to raise those children and shouldn't raise morons.
But I do think that there is a push on all fronts for everybody to go to college as if they need it.
And this is just a Ponzi scheme.
Yeah, too.
I think intelligence and education are completely separate from college and university.
You were raising your hand.
Did you have something you wanted to add?
Someone kind of already said it.
I was just going to mention, like, they were talking about how people aren't having kids or aren't raising families.
And someone already mentioned the cost of living.
And I was going to say that that's a good thing for first degree.
Here's the other part, okay?
Men do not want to assume duty because they are getting free sex.
Right.
They do not want that.
Men don't even want this.
That's what I'm saying.
Men don't even want it.
They don't.
And do you know what?
They don't want what?
They don't want what?
Free sex?
Yeah, men don't want free sex.
They want high-end.
Well, they do think they want it, though.
But that's because women are making it social.
They want it short-term.
Women are making it so easy when they're posting.
I know pictures on Instagram.
I think it's both, man.
I think it's both.
I think men have this idea that they have to rack up.
I mean, look at this.
Men, they're freely telling you I have triple-digit body counts, like he's bragging, instead of looking at the fact that he's lost all his morality and has subjected women to nothing as an option.
It's against morality.
100% it does because you're just using another human being for your own sexual satisfaction.
Sexual satisfaction is much different for men and women.
For women, sexual satisfaction, you know, please tell us, Dr. Ruth, what is the difference?
Having sexual relations as women, as what?
Sorry, Lola.
Having sexual relationships as women is emotional.
Sorry.
Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
No, but seriously, having sex as a woman is much different than having sex as a man.
For men, it's not emotional.
It's purely their evolutionary descent.
You know, it's instinct.
It's built into their brains.
Well, there's a lot of men.
It's a mobile phone.
But I think it takes a certain like moral, like to be a man and to choose not to.
That's your carnal instinct.
That's your most basic instinct.
So to be able to have this self-will.
There's no reason for that.
No, but for the men, there's probably a reason.
No, for them.
There's probably a reason why we want to kill people when they piss us off.
I don't find.
That's normal.
Maybe 100%.
You're talking about the same date.
It's your most basic carnal physical, what's that brain call it?
Your, you know, your reptilian brain, right?
I'm just going to act on my instinct.
I'm going to do what I desire.
And that is, there's no higher calling.
There's no self-control.
There's no energy for values.
It's for reproduction.
That's still, yeah, but that doesn't.
Well, that doesn't change the point.
It's still your most basic instinct.
It takes a lot.
It's a lot harder to actually control yourself.
But who cares about that?
Isn't there a reason why they have those instincts?
Well, let's just put it this way: societies where the men just follow their impulse to breed indiscriminately do not produce the best offspring.
How do you know that?
Because you can just study it.
Who has children?
You can be high-value men.
No.
People like Elon Musk are a lot of people.
Okay, listen, I know you have to justify why your boyfriend's cheating on you.
Okay, but it's not.
My boyfriend is not cheating on me.
I know.
We can call it whatever we want.
We can label things different ways.
That man will always be a man, even if he cuts off his penis.
I don't care what the labels are.
The truth of the fact is what it is.
Now, the fact of the matter is, if we follow these base instincts to just reproduce indiscriminately, it actually does not produce for the best societies and the best raised children.
That's why you don't follow it indiscriminately.
You get a third world country.
There's a reason that Western Europeans, which have the highest correlation for morality, also produce the most civilized society.
Can you explain what the highest correlation for morality means?
Sure.
If you want to take a look at who actually has moral prescriptions, like you don't cheat on people, you don't steal, you don't kill, these sorts of things, it is the highest in Western European civilization.
Okay, so you're going to go into moral relativism.
Right.
In which you can decide, how about this?
If somebody just brutally kills somebody you love, are you going to say, oh, that was part of their culture and that's okay?
No.
No.
All right.
So that lets you know.
So there is an internal instinct about what is moral and what isn't.
We can get into the communist, moralist, relativistic position that says, oh, every culture has different morals.
But then when you actually apply it practically, we all agree that children shouldn't be made to be child brides or child or get married or have sex, right?
So we do have an agreement on morals.
Well, where do you find, like, how do you find out about that moral system?
Because clearly, people aren't following.
That's a very deep and theological question as well.
But there's been a lot of writing on how you find out about the moral thing.
I think some of the things that we can start with is a lot of people do actually have a natural reaction to immoral behavior.
And that's one of the key indications that actually morality is innate as opposed to taught.
Right, but I mean, people still go against it, and people still justify it as well.
So how can we live in a society that doesn't justify immoral behavior?
Well, you have to have moral leaders.
Hey, thank you, Alcan.
Why can't women comprehend men created the civilized world?
Electricity, paved roads, governance, plumbing, health care.
And women think they are equal since they feel entitled to.
A woman created that man.
Well, also, a lot of those men made that for women before when they had to actually work for sex, but that's a different story.
Yeah, so I'm just saying, like, how do you say we need to have moral leaders, but those moral leaders need to.
You don't think men have to work for sex?
It is so much easier for a woman to have sex with a man than it is for a man to have sex with a woman.
Right, what's that in debate, too?
What did I say that made you?
Well, because you just said to her that men actually had to work to have sex.
Correct.
They still do.
Oh, not that much.
There's a difference between you have to buy a girl drink, take her out to dinner, woo her for a night.
It's extremely hard for a man to have sex with a woman.
All that a woman is go on the street and open her legs, and there it is.
That is 100% correct.
That's 100% correct.
But it has never been easier for men to have sex than in this current period of time.
That's because of the woman.
Well, do you have problems?
That's a problem.
Do you have a problem with promiscuity?
Not if it's the man doing it.
Well, I mean, she's.
Yeah, no.
Well, also, you said you're on OnlyFans, right?
Yeah, I do.
I mean, listen, I think that women are making it worse for the men.
I think that by posting stuff for free on the internet, you.
You have to charge for it.
Oh, then, well, how are you, you know, are you, do you just accept that you're contributing to the problem?
Well, I actually think that with the content that I create, I'm actually helping the problem.
I try to support these men, and I actually have relationships with all of these men that are in my deal.
So you are cheating.
You're not a charity worker.
Emotionally.
But what if the women's trans charity are you talking about?
Are you talking about the girlfriend experience or giving these your OF subs to girlfriend experience?
Yes, I am.
And I am being there for them in all of their problems, all of their needs.
And I try to get them to achieve for something higher.
But aren't they just paying you to like?
You don't know what they pay me for.
Yeah, you're right.
I mean, that could be another woman.
And I mean, you're a beautiful woman.
You obviously are not going to, like, let's say you attract guys that are eight and above.
And that's who you're attracted to, okay?
So if there's a four, he's never going to have a chance with you.
Honestly, honestly.
Just hear me out.
Okay.
Let's say he's the same.
He's a great guy, but then there's an eight and he has the same, makes the same amount of money, same personality, all this stuff.
You're probably going to choose eight.
Maybe not, but probably.
So if there's a four and he could find another woman who's a four or a five and she could provide that emotional support that you believe you're providing him and the physical intimacy that he's providing, isn't that better?
Isn't that better to let their relationship rather than, I mean, in some ways it's kind of self-serving to be, oh, I'm the man that I'm the woman that's supporting this man and I'm giving him what he needs.
And I, I mean, that's, that's a very interesting thing.
The problem is that all women date up.
All women date up.
Okay, so a three.
Fine.
That's also not.
No, I'm saying, it is true.
I've seen some college notes.
It's true.
It's true.
Okay, so it's true.
It really doesn't change the argument.
Make the girl a three.
No, no, no.
Say your point.
I was going to say, I think in the past, it was more common for women to date up.
I think now people, at least in my age range, even from my own personal experience, date men who are just such bums who are not deserving of them.
Because I did it for two years.
I think we're talking about sexual market value.
So like hot things.
So girls go for like low-value hot guys.
Like the guy who's a total scrub and wants to live in your car, but he'll give you some good dick.
Like some of that.
But I think what you're trying to say, I'll just say it in a more blunt way, is that we're kind of sick of the bullshit that these OnlyFans girls are like, your friend, and they're doing charity work, and I'm helping the lonely men out there.
I'm helping them.
I'm counseling them.
I talk to the.
That's not helping them.
If it was helping them, you wouldn't be charging them money.
No, no, no.
I get it.
I understand.
And I agree.
I think that women posting inappropriate pictures online is making it easy for these men.
They don't have to work to achieve these women anymore.
And I get it.
I fully do.
But the content that I produce on a daily basis, I am very, I'm very strongly opinion.
Sorry.
I'm very strongly opinionated on all of these things.
And I really want to make sure that men are striving to be the best that they can be.
And really manifesting.
As an actual woman in the flesh.
It would be called OnlyFriends.
It would be called OnlyFriends.
And you'd be Saint Riley, the OnlyFans girl.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying, out of all of the OnlyFans girls, I am the best one because I genuinely care about the men on the platform.
Wait, you care about this?
Yes, no, because all of the content that I produce is for the men.
It's for the men.
You care about the quality of their own.
My social media content.
Okay.
My social media content.
So what is it that you're doing that's charitable and helping them?
I put out content that shows that feminism is not the way to go.
I don't agree with feminism.
I think that what would solve all of our problems is if we stopped oppressing people like Andrew Tate.
Pandora.
But do you think that's a good idea?
Wait a second.
Do you realize you're helping the insults?
How does me up?
I'm serious.
I'm serious.
She's doing it for clickbait.
That is not true.
Here's the thing, though.
I think that if you sat at home and did their jobs, cook, clean, suck, fuck.
Everything would be so much.
Do you realize you would be burned at the stake for everything you're doing right now if feminism wasn't in power?
Oh, I got the idea.
They would call you a witch and they would burn you at the stake.
And all the other things.
Well, I don't know about that.
We're going to do a YouTube poll.
Should we burn Riley?
I think that's.
Wait, let's do a couple chats, then we'll come back to this topic.
We have Vinny Viddi Cringey.
Can I have you read the chats?
Oh, yeah.
Giving you a job here.
All right.
Into the mic.
No, like, out loud, not in your head.
Emirates.
Sorry, thank you.
Thank you.
I swear.
Speak into your mother.
Okay.
Fly Emirates.
Oh, damn.
There it is.
Go ahead.
Fly Emirates girl is fundamentally asking my psycho philosophy.
I'm dyslexic, guys.
She was the wrong person.
You got it.
You got it.
Keep going.
Keep going.
You have a physical conundrum.
Can you manipulate someone into freedom?
To which I'm not sold on it being possible.
You fucking killed it.
You did great.
That was beautiful.
Do you want to do that?
Women supporting us all.
Really quick.
Wait, can I see it again?
I'm sorry.
The gist of it was he doesn't think that you can manipulate people into freedom.
Okay, so personally, I don't necessarily think that would mean manipulation because, like I said, feminism doesn't really mean anything anymore.
Not necessarily because there's so many different veins of feminism.
There's veins of feminism that say, you know, we should live on an island away from men.
And there's veins of feminism that say you should go on OnlyFans and, you know, do like do that or have casual sex like a man.
So I'm just saying the most effective way to approach this issue that we both see is to use feminism to move forward to psyop feminism past.
Yeah, yeah.
How could you sports donated $200 the soul sucker 2000 in the blue sweater If you wanted to help men you would shut down get married and be a proper submissive wife You won't, because you are a degenerate.
Get some help.
Yeah, how many dicks have you sunk?
Get some help.
How many do you think?
Because I'm sure you would surprise me.
I had your back.
Thank you.
Yeah, thank you, Grid One Motorsports.
Appreciate it.
I love what.
See, here's my problem with all these incel Chads on the internet who could be Chads on the internet.
You don't want to call Grid One out.
He's not the top donor.
I know Grid One.
He actually saved me from a bear once, believe it or not.
Okay, all right.
Well, I apologize.
Maybe not him, but there's a lot of these guys who would like be the submissive wife.
We don't need to waste money on a stake and fire.
Get the rocks.
Get the rocks.
Shut up.
Abdul?
Yeah.
Get the rocks.
Get the rocks.
Sorry, Riley.
Get some rocks.
And the fire, I guess.
Okay, here, hold on.
Really quick back to your point.
So you're saying we need to take control over feminism?
Yeah, kind of.
I mean, there already is.
Wait, should it be the men or the women who take control of feminism?
I guess both.
How much manpower are you going to need for women to take back feminism?
Well, I'm not denying that.
We got a lot of male beta stamps already in the feminist movement.
Just use them.
I mean, they're more of a liability.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying that men are as powerful as women or that women have more influence over men or anything.
I'm not saying anything like that.
I'm just saying that feminism is obviously very influential, as you guys have mentioned.
Because it's basically selling something that appeals to our kind of the things that give us pleasure right away, our instant gratification.
I understand what you're saying.
I just don't think it would work because, first of all, like you said, there's so many divisions of feminism.
Yeah, so I'm just saying.
So all you're going to do is create another ineffective chapter.
Why would it be ineffective?
I mean, I'm just saying in my experience.
What's your opposition to calling it something else?
I mean, I wouldn't mind it.
I'm just, I've been asking.
Wait, Rachel.
Don't you think what ought to take over feminism is it's not a replacement of, well, it's not a change of feminism.
It is just the re-I don't know if it's the reintroduction, but patriarchy.
Yeah, I think that patriarchy is inevitable.
We're still under a patriarchy, but there were a few beta cuck simps that convinced everybody that this women's liberation stuff was a good idea.
And those people happen to be powerful industrialists.
It's always like a Bill Gates or a Rockefeller, right?
They're a nerd.
They're sexually unsuccessful.
They become successful in business.
They get a lot of money.
And they're like, I'm going to push this destructive, you know, awful shit on everybody else.
And it opens up the way for those beta type of guys to be able to get some.
But that might be the only place that you and I would disagree is that I am pro-patriarchy.
I'm not really against feminism.
I don't like to define it.
I'm not sure that I'm anti-patriarchy, but I do think here's something that people need to understand.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
So it doesn't matter.
Right now, I think we're actually living under a female-dominated society.
And you see this because of the way that women are kind of, you know, shrieking about not being able to kill their own children, which is a whole other thing.
Grid one Motorsports donated $200.
We'll do some more chats.
We'll bring more chats after people.
Sorry, I didn't know.
I have been married 19 years.
Marry two kids.
Two kids.
You all dare in comparison to my wife.
You generates need to wake up and see reality for the first time.
I like that he supports his wife.
You know what's interesting with Grid One?
Grid One, dude.
For some reason, they always call you.
They go to the incel.
Why you guys?
Because he always quotes the incels.
All right.
I will say this really quick before we move on, which is that you're right that it's a very gynocentric system we're living under.
Noah donated $200.
Yo, thank you, Neil.
TW Rachel, Andrew says, go bring him a beer.
I would if I was there, Pumpkin, but I'm not.
You have to have one of the children slaves do it.
Wait, is that your son?
No.
Oh, okay.
Or one of your kids?
He's going to have to rely on child labor since I'm not there right now, is all I'm saying.
Right.
Yeah.
No, what we have is feminized men running things, and then they put all the, like, the Rockefellers are literally the ones that helped create women's studies and the Ford Foundation and put these like man-hating lesbian separatists in charge of all of the university women's studies departments, giving them institutional power, et cetera, et cetera.
You've never been to college.
How do you know who's in charge of the women's studies departments?
Because you can literally look it up.
I know, but I'm not sure.
You can just Google it.
I actually go to these schools.
Have you been to Africa?
I actually go to school.
Do you know that there's black people in Africa?
I actually go to school and I've actually interacted with professors and been in many classes.
You went to one school.
You had your personal experiences of your interactions.
And I have never, ever met a communist professor, like genuinely polyside apart.
Well, they're not going to say I'm a communist, but they'll have.
No, they won't.
Why would Marxists?
They don't consider themselves communists.
They will put them in.
And they're not.
They'll say I'm a Marxist.
They'll say, oh, well, I have met a Marxist professor, but one.
That's the same thing.
Also, I don't think there's anything wrong with Marxism.
Ah, well, here we have the problem.
This is the exact Marxism, communism.
It is Marxism.
Well, they'll say, oh, it's socialism.
I'm a social democrat.
It's all the same shit.
It's just wait.
So, if a Marxist is a communist, I was going to say, I have, then I have met one communist professor, actually, but it was not in the women's studies department.
It was in the comparative literature.
I do got to read a couple chats here, then we'll come back to things.
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And we have two chats.
We have a couple chats and then a couple super chats.
We have Nathan V. I'm going to have you read this one.
Go ahead.
Into the mic, please.
Yeah, sorry.
Sorry, I have really bad eyesight.
I don't know if I'm going to be able to read it.
You got it.
10 years military service, first to see women in combat.
M-O-S.
M-O-S.
Most of them quit by getting pregnant or faking injuries.
Equality in relationships.
We are not the same.
We're all the same.
We're not the same.
Follow Allie Drummond because she has a lot to say about that.
And she has got a show.
She's on the YouTube channel.
Yeah, yeah.
Can we have you read this one, please?
Into the mic, into the mic, men have to be exceptional to potentially sleep with an average woman.
Average woman can sleep with exceptional men like briefly.
This is true.
That's what I was saying before.
Hold on.
That's hiring.
Her story is an exact example of a below-average man sleeping with, I believe, you're higher than him.
Well, are we talking like looks-wise or inside?
He's not exceptional at all.
He's sleeping in your car.
Well, she's all granted, she's in college, right?
So, I mean, like, are we expecting an 18, 19, 20-year-old man to be making six figures?
I don't expect him to be living in the same car as the girl he's sleeping with.
And if you can't, if you cannot have a place where you can sleep with her, you shouldn't be sleeping with a girl.
And the amount of money you make doesn't correlate to whether or not you're a high-value man.
Yeah, I don't think so.
You don't think that you have any high-value qualities if you make a lot of money?
You have to have something.
You have to have someone who's a good person.
Did I say?
Yeah, yeah.
Did I say?
Yeah.
So I think being a provider, does that correlate with being a hard worker?
It can.
Not always, but it can.
But I think it's much more admirable and much more difficult to be a man of character.
I think that's correct.
Of course it is.
What do you think is.
Yes, I think that's admirable.
What do you think is like the most admirable characteristics a man can have?
Seeker of God, lover of God.
And why is that?
Because I think that's the highest calling a human can be.
Someone that wants to emulate the life of Jesus Christ is the hardest and most challenging path to pursue, and it leads to a person who is like, it will be righteous.
Men of character create good societies for people.
Men who pursue money at the expense of everything basically, you know, I mean, that's what we have now.
I can't get into it because there's some words we can't say here.
But, you know, if you take a look, the men that are ruling our society have pursued money at all lengths.
And in that span, they have used and brutalized tons of people.
Which I don't know if you guys are into this conspiracy particularly, but we do have our CIA and Israel's CIA.
Can't say that.
Can't say that.
We're not going to get into fucking Israel-Palestine.
I'm not getting into that.
I'm getting into the secret agencies: CIA, Mossad, and MI6, which is Britain's.
Why can't I say that?
They're three major power secret agencies.
Okay, I thought you were going to talk about this.
I'm not talking about intelligence.
I'm talking about these three major intelligence world powers who work together to get blackmail information on people who are not Whitney Webb.
Read Whitney Webb's books on this.
It's very well documented.
She's all right.
Let me read some chats here.
There's a little thing we're missing about patriarchy, which is that feminism destroyed the hierarchy of I dare you to go to Versailles in Miami and say that.
Can you tell us how many people have died under Marxism and all its failed iterations?
I'm sure Leo can answer that for you.
More people have died under Marxism.
Versailles is in Paris, in France.
I think they're talking about a Cuban neighborhood.
All the people who are Cuban refugees.
Yeah, all the rich communists.
All the rich, like slave-owning Cubans who fled.
Slave-owning Cubans, here we go.
Just kidding.
Oh, okay.
But if they were fleeing Cuba, then they were probably.
We don't need to get into that.
I don't need to get into that.
Well, did you know that more people have died because of communism and Marxism than all of the religious wars put together?
That is untrue.
Okay.
She's from Eastern Europe, and those people could tell you a thing or two about what ancestors are from Russia.
Well, then.
Okay, so what's the number of people that have died in religious wars, and what's the number that have died under communism?
I don't know, but I know for a fact.
So how'd you know it wasn't true?
Okay, how do you know for a fact?
I'm familiar with the black book of communism and like, oh, all these people have died under communism, including people who just died natural deaths.
Like, that you think generation of natural deaths?
I mean, how many people have died about capitalism in wars and capitalist interests?
Do you know about the Bolshevik Revolution having killed 20 million people?
You never hear about that.
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's plenty of other revolutions that have killed other people for other reasons.
The Chinese communist revolution, the revolution under Pinochet.
I mean, we could keep going.
I don't know.
And every single one of those systems have resulted in the world.
Guys, hold on.
We'll come back.
Look, if you got, we'll talk about that later.
Let me get through the chats, please.
All right, we have Jerkoff Juggernaut.
Brixon, I know you're still hung up on that flannel, and although they don't have the same scheme, Legendary Whitehall, they have some really nice color blends, give the peep.
Unfortunately, just not the same blend.
Oh, yeah, this is from a couple shows ago where I was trying to buy a like a red, gray, black flannel off of a lesbian, and she refused to sell it to me.
I offered her $150 for the flannel.
I like flannels.
And, bro, you guys, literally 100 people sent me, here's the flannel, and you sent me like green, like, not even anywhere.
I don't know if y'all are colorblind or some shit.
Y'all sent me the wrong shit.
When I say I want a specific flannel, I don't want any flannel.
I want to be a little bit more.
Maybe it's just because you wear the green one so often.
They just thought you might need an actual one to cycle in.
I'm kidding.
Yeah, okay.
We have Pinkerton.
Thank you for the Mira.
Thank you.
Sorry, bro.
I can't get Super Chat through on Streamlabs.
She knows nothing, prattles for an hour, then begrudgingly agrees.
We already established this when she got cooked in the one-on-one.
Oh, I think this is for you.
Cooked on the one-on-one with Andrew.
Also, if you don't believe in Jesus, take off the cross.
Christ is God.
I don't think I begrudgingly agree.
I might have gotten cooked, but also, Andrew is a 40-year-old man who debates for a living, and I have never debated in my life.
So I'm doing pretty good, you know, even though I disagree with you.
Thank you, thank you.
I do not agree with Andrew.
We have Jerkoff Juggernaut, Brian.
This has to be the most based episode you've ever had.
Feminist Brains Exploding Live.
Brain Matter all over the place.
Right, meow.
Yeah, this is a really good panel.
Very good panel so far.
We have Jerkoff Juggernaut.
God is a 33-year-old dude.
These modern women are the reason I prefer to stay single.
Y'all need to take in wholeheartedly take in what Rachel and your raven-haired elder are speaking on.
It's real.
All right, thank you guys for watching.
That's pretty much my new handle.
Raven-haired elder.
I have a question.
I'm not trying to walk back, but you said that patriarchy would be a good prescription rather than feminism.
Is that what you're saying?
I just want to clarify.
Because I thought that the problem was that men have power over women when it comes to sexual relationships.
So, how would giving men more powerful?
Women are giving away their power.
It used to be that like 100 years ago, upwards of 97% of women were virgins on their wedding night.
And even if you don't believe that and you think a lot of them were lying, let's just say it was 70%.
Let's just say it was 70%.
That still gives men a great incentive to wife you up if they expect sex.
When half or more of the women are giving away the milk for free, why buy the cow?
And men don't.
Men don't anymore.
They just don't.
But they're also suffering because of that.
They are.
Because they've lacked their own.
They found out it was a bad deal because now they're all stuck in family court dealing with that nonsense.
Well, there's that, and also they're not living up to their purpose, so they have no sense of purpose or fulfillment.
They're also depressed.
Wouldn't we want to talk to the men about that?
It seems like well, we do.
That's what the whole podcast is about, really.
I mean, the problem is they shut it down everywhere.
They've shut it down literally everywhere.
Shut what they did.
Shut down what?
That's why I'm saying if everyone just listened to Andrew Tate, everything would be fine.
Is Andrew Tate your high-value boyfriend?
No.
Is that what we have going on here?
No, but personally, all of the beliefs that he tries to push to the public, it's about the patriarchy.
Women should stay home, cook, clean, have kids, be a good mom.
It would solve all of the issues.
Andrew Tate, Andrew Tate.
I would just say this.
Andrew Tate is a reason women should have their own bank accounts.
Okay, I'm just going to say that right now.
And why is that?
Because, listen, I like Andrew Tate.
I think he's fun.
I like his brother too.
They're fun.
Listen, they're a lot of fun, okay?
But if you've never been in a relationship with an Andrew Tate type, you have no idea what I'm talking about.
Those people do not know how to maintain their healthy boundaries in a way where they don't actually use their power against women.
And I know you probably.
I don't think they do use their power against women.
I think that lots of them do.
And that's actually what I think.
They just want a traditional wife.
If they wanted a traditional wife, first of all, if they wanted a traditional wife, they would be monogamous with the wife, having kids, all that jazz.
Andrew Tate says he is monogamous.
To each of these women individually.
I'm not sure if that's true.
I don't think so.
I'm pretty sure Andrew Tate's got it.
On top of that, why do you glorify someone that would literally look down on you so much?
It's not looking down to being a motherfucker.
Who wants your wife to be a good mother?
But there's lots of other higher value men.
Why aren't you being a wife and a mom?
Why are you being an OnlyFans girl who's counseling the lost young men?
Well, you don't even know what I post on OnlyFans.
But I know that you're not married and having children.
Well, that's true.
I'm your high-value man.
No, but that's, but that's not true.
You don't know that that's not in the workings.
All that I want is to be married and is to have kids and take care of them.
That's all this one.
It's probably not going to happen with Isabella.
I'm glad to hear that, but why?
How does having the OnlyFans get you there?
Well, you don't even know what I post on my OnlyFans.
Why don't you tell us?
You said you're a virgin.
We want to see it.
I thought you said that.
I don't know if I want to see it, but you can see it.
I think you guys are just asking to see it at this point.
I'm good.
I'm curious about her fans.
I'm not sure if you're a promiscuous content.
It's just her quoting Andrew Tate.
I'm just saying, it's not looking down at a woman to want her to take care of her kids, be a good wife, be funny as she's a good person.
I have an OnlyFans too, and I just read Ted Kaczynski's books and tell everybody what a simp they are.
No, I don't have any family.
I know.
But that's what it would be if I did.
You can find her at the Raven-Haired Elder.
Thank you.
So, why don't you support somebody like Andrew Tate?
Because you seem to have very similar values to what he supports.
I'll tell you why.
And the reason is because Orthodox Christianity, in my opinion, is the thing that gives women the value.
And when we talk about equality, I don't like the word, but if you want women in a high position where they are venerated as mothers and wives, Orthodox Christianity, the Christianity of the first thousand years, is what did that.
In the pagan world, there was no such thing.
That didn't exist.
Correct.
Christianity is the first thing that introduced that.
Now, Tate was on a path to orthodoxy.
His brother, I think, is.
I believe.
Well, his brother is definitely Christian.
He's Muslim.
Right.
And Islam, I think, is demonic heresy.
Don't go to any Muslim countries.
They're going to kill you.
I know.
The views expressed by the whatever panelists, podcasts, panelists do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever podcast.
So, like, that's my opinion on it.
And this whole like having, you know, all these sister wives in a harem and all this sort of thing, putting women in burqas is actually not great.
I don't believe it.
Yeah, that's toxic masculinity right there.
That's what everybody else is.
So that's your objection with Andrew Tate.
This is religion.
Okay.
Well, I don't even know if I buy that he's religious, but his worldview, I think the reason he picked Islam is because he likes that worldview.
Okay.
So he says he, even though he's doing a bunch of people.
Anyways, I'm not really interested in talking about Andrew Tate, to be honest.
But you want to make a different argument?
No, I'm just saying that, like, if we all listened to him, everything would be fine.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
What's crazy?
That if we listened to Andrew Tate, that everything, that if we listened to Andrew Tate, everything would be fine.
Like, that's just fucking crazy.
Like, you don't even, it's just, it doesn't make sense coming from someone like you, especially.
Coming from me?
That does.
You don't know me.
You don't know anything.
I know what you do.
You probably don't even know my name.
Do you know my name?
I don't know yours.
But I know you do.
OnlyFans, and I know that's something that he looks down on it.
It just doesn't make sense for all shit in the kitchen.
He actually says he doesn't look down at all.
Just saying, damn, I know it and stuff like that.
You need to get the dick out your mouth, bro.
Like, honestly, you got the dick in your mouth.
Wait, figuratively or literally?
You got Andrew Tate's dick shaft and balls in the back.
Would you fuck Andrew Tate?
Speaking of shit.
What do you mean?
What do you got to ask that?
I am 100% loyal to my boyfriend.
Who's Andrew Tate?
Yeah.
Wait, what?
Apparently.
I'm 100% loyal.
But would your boyfriend give you a pass to smash Andrew Tate?
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
If you were single, would you then?
I don't want to talk about that.
But that's disrespectful.
Would you give your boyfriend a pass to smash Andrew Tate?
He would not do that because he's not gay.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, he's not gay yet.
A lot of dudes are kind of like Tate.
Oh, boy.
Okay.
All right.
This is just an extended advertisement for her OnlyFans.
I hope everyone is enjoying it.
She's like, what about helping people?
She's helping.
It's a charity, really.
We have a chat here.
The real match.
Wait, actually, like the mind.
Isn't that the Minecraft guy?
Anyways, can I have you read that?
Okay.
Men who are great in all departments all like multiple women.
They settle down with one, but they will always want a variety for sex.
That's true.
Woman in black sounds bitter.
Is that me?
That's me.
That's me.
I'm the bitter one.
Okay.
I already told you I have a disease.
Can we run it back?
I wasn't quick enough.
I'll just read it.
It was just promised beauty doesn't affect a man.
Sure.
That's what he said.
I've seen it.
I mean, if he gets herpes, it would affect him.
No, it affects their ability to bond.
No, it doesn't.
Okay.
Because men don't have emotional sex unless it's actually.
We were talking about this shit last show.
I actually disagree.
Like, if a guy fucks enough women, he's, you're familiar with the term alpha widow, right?
Yeah.
So, like, once a girl lands on a guy who's like, he's exceptional in some metric or in many metrics, so he could just be super attractive, really good in bed, really high status, rich personality-wise, it's going to be very hard for her to like go back in that dimension.
So, if she dates a guy who has his own place, it's going to be hard to go back to the guy who lives in a dorm room with three people.
Exactly.
Once you have that experience, which is why.
But guys can have that same shit we were talking about in the last show.
For example, if you're a dude and you get with the girl who like going to get a little sexual here, if she just like can come super quick and just like has multiples, bro, you're fucked.
But here's the other thing, too.
This is the question, right?
Can I speak?
Never mind.
If men can be promiscuous but women can't, who are they sleeping with?
Each other?
Yes.
Your boyfriend's gay.
Checkmate.
Do you think that your relationship is viable for long term?
I think so.
Yes.
Because I think that a man will settle down for one girl, but it's true.
They're always going to want to have sex with other women because it's a natural instinct for them.
It's a natural instinct.
I know, but humans can be stronger than our natural instincts.
And that's what separates us from animals.
But should they?
Thank you.
We're not all.
No, we should all go around randomly, indiscriminately fucking each other and having everybody who pisses us off.
That's why we're going to be able to throw every child over the freaking alley.
Of course we should.
Because if it...
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Okay, I have a question for you.
Because you're friends with Riley, right?
So you see the relationship dynamic here, how like she's closed, but the boyfriend is open.
So like he can fuck other chicks.
Wait, are you involved with a boyfriend?
No, no.
Okay.
No.
But like, would you have that same kind of scenario having seen your friend in it?
No, I've always, I'm a very monogamous person.
So you would demand monogamy from your male partner.
I think you should respect me the same I respect you.
So I'm going to be loyal to you.
You need to do it back.
It's not going to work.
What do you tell your friend?
Also, being a Christian.
Wait, you're a Christian?
Yes, I am.
Which denomination?
So I like.
Heresy church.
Right now I go to a non-denominational church, but I'm still kind of figuring it out.
It's kind of, for me, it's more of like a personal relationship with God.
I'm still learning.
I didn't really, I wasn't raised.
I think we should shame her until she became aware of her.
Have you been baptized?
I actually, yes, I got baptized on shame for the first time.
Congratulations.
Yeah, it was a really, it was me and three of my friends got baptized together.
It was great.
Wait, and you have like an exclusive lingerie side or something?
No, no.
So basically, FanFlix is an OF.
It's based, I would consider it more like a Patreon.
So for me, it's like, it's literally like selfies.
What do you post on there?
The most I've ever done is like I did like behind the scenes like a beach photo shit I did for a modeling job.
Like I posted.
So you were like eating the bikini?
Yeah.
No, like I don't post anything with like my button in it, nothing that's like reeling up here.
Like it's very basically your Instagram.
It's basically my Instagram, but it's like, I would say it's more smart.
That's smart.
Business model.
That's a totally different thing.
I think it's smarter than posting your Instagram pictures for free.
That's what you were saying.
I'm not saying that you should post your Instagram pictures for free.
I know.
That's what I'm saying.
It's smarter for her to make people pay for her Instagram pictures.
If I could find a way to make money off of it.
I don't know.
I actually said that I don't think it's right for women to be posting their pictures for free because I think that it makes lazy.
That's what I just said about her.
Right, but you're saying that I said the opposite.
I never said that.
No, I never said that.
Can you hear anything I'm saying?
I said you literally said the same thing I just said.
You said that I agreed with that I should post this for free.
No, no, no.
That she's being smart by not posting her selfies on Instagram for free.
She's charging money.
That's what you said.
That's what I'm saying.
You said.
Okay.
Right.
We're clear?
Yes, we're clear.
I have a question.
Because you said, how do you know I'm not moving towards motherhood and all so how is this open relationship gonna work when you have this man's child?
Is he still going to be out with other strumpets?
How about when you're pregnant?
Well, here's the thing: is that I think with this type of relationship, there should be one main girl.
I don't mind if he's, you know, succumbing to these sexual desires that he wants to have, because here's the thing: if you don't know about it, they're probably going to do it anyways.
You know, I think you just make them have fucking stuff.
That's what I mean.
Like, what are you going to do when the children?
Like, what if the children find out that oops, daddy got his side girl pregnant?
Just so you know, you're failing as a woman.
The children don't have to know about it.
Like, do you remember that?
You're going to let her say that at all.
I am not failing as a woman.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
I would like to hear what you're talking about.
Okay, so women in general, they have a higher tendency towards morality, even though we've been corrupted out of it.
And what happens is women are the ones who hold men to a higher moral standard that they have to aspire to meet.
So when you say, hey, it's okay for you to just follow whatever sexual instincts you want, you are failing your duty to inspire your man to actually try and control his lust.
No, because I am not going to be able to do that.
Which, if he did, not really.
If he did that, if he actually aspired to those higher values and actually tried to fight against his lust, he would actually find a bigger respect for himself and for you.
But why should he try to fight against this lust?
Good question.
Can I answer it?
Can I answer why he should try to fight against this lust?
I would like to hear it.
Because it actually leads to a deeper fulfillment and a more expansive sense of your own humanity when you do that.
You realize you are more than just your animal-based instincts.
And that is a wonderful, worthy goal that actually we are missing in our society.
No, and I do, I do agree.
But I think that if a man is high-value enough and he's educated enough and has all of these characteristics to where he can be in that top 1% of man.
Okay, Andrew Tate, it's ready for you to come out of this woman's body.
Take off your disguise.
This is a deliverance.
No.
That he should be able to reproduce with many women.
How are you in the high value?
How do you define a high-value woman?
I really want to know.
Is it your waist size?
Is it because you've maintained a certain like?
It's the qualities that you have referring to, like motherhood, nurturing, being there for your husband.
So you're not a mother yet.
So tell me what the, please list the qualities.
The qualities of a high-value woman.
I really want to hear what she has to say.
What are the volumes?
It's someone who is a good mother, is not promiscuous.
Okay.
Takes care of her kids.
Okay.
Takes care of her husband.
Okay.
Riley, can you scoot your mic that way?
Of course, yeah.
Pay charge once again.
Go ahead.
Okay.
The characteristics, being a good mother, being nurturing, taking care of your husband, making sure that you're supporting him in his endeavors.
And if that involves letting him, you know, succumb to these sexual desires, I think that is fine.
Are you an Enneagram too?
What was that?
Do you know the Enneagram?
No, you're not.
She's assuming.
I think she also makes it.
What you're saying is nurturing.
Right.
I thought you were.
So you love.
You can't do Enneagram and be Christian.
I'm going to tell you this.
A woman's only value comes from her tits and her ass.
Just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
Oh, Rollie!
So, so I think it's interesting.
So you're saying a lot about like nurturing.
You're clearly a nurturing person.
You care for your boyfriend.
You're loyal to your boyfriend.
You care about the men who, like, let's call them, they're not clients.
What would you call them?
You would call them fans?
I mean, I don't know what I would call them again.
But you care about them.
I care about them.
You perceive them more than like other girls.
Like, you actually care about them.
So that's a good thing, but don't you think there could be negative repercussions of the you and you say not promiscuous.
So what is how do you define promiscuous?
Promiscuous, posting things online, being in a bikini.
No, I do on OnlyFans.
What?
You're shocked.
What?
She's hyping up these dudes.
No, I just don't know.
You don't even look at all these things like you have it on your Instagram.
I don't have it on my Instagram.
You're losing your face.
Your fan's gone.
You will not find one bikini picture on my Instagram.
I don't know how you managed to do this, but you alienated more of the women on this panel than I did.
You said you were a virtual stripper.
It's a joke.
Have you ever heard of a joke?
You're not a stripper, though.
You don't have an OnlyFans.
What do you do on your are you promiscuous on your OnlyFans?
Guys, I know you guys all want to see it.
Are you a troll?
Well, I mean, that's considered.
I've never seen fake kids in my life, so I want to see it.
Do you pose naked?
I want to ask that.
Is the content to make men feel valued, but also to make them aroused?
Is your content?
Is there a dual purpose for your content?
Because I think I'm hearing you say that you want men to feel valued.
I think that's awesome.
Yes.
Dr. Billy.
$200.
Yeah, thank you, Doc.
Blue Bimbo1, 100M.
Blue Bimbo 2, you are not a high-value woman.
You are a doormat.
You are a whore under concubine.
Be nice.
Hardly a high-value woman.
Be nice.
Stop it.
Get some help.
I don't think that you're.
I don't think you're eye-opening.
Get some help.
I think that you have beautiful qualities.
Like, you are very nurturing.
You are caring.
You want men to do well.
I think it's hard.
I think there are.
Sorry, Riley.
I think there is enough evidence to show that, like, I think you can showcase these qualities in ways that could be potentially more productive and even more powerful.
And even using your beauty and your nurture and your kindness and your concern for men, and that doesn't have to be through this venue of arousal.
Have you seen any of my content on any of my social media?
No.
Wait, Let me just kind of like, you know, this could be like a 20-minute conversation.
I'll just like save us all a bunch of time.
Porn bad, OF bad.
Cool.
Let's move on.
So, Nickelodeon, men should be allowed to act on all desires.
What else has he done to you to make you think this way for the first time?
I'm generally concerned for a woman on the show.
JK, gotta be a troll.
Here's what I'm gonna say.
Okay, final thing, but I want to talk about your weird situation, Chip for too long.
If a man is able to be successful in the top 1%, he obviously has some very important qualities that, you know, would make it.
Wouldn't you want your DNA to be passed on to future generations if you are that high-value?
Wait, but is he impregnating the other women he's sleeping with?
No.
I don't know.
What do you mean you don't know?
I don't know.
I have no idea.
The minute he impregnates another one of those women, you are no longer top chick gut.
That's it.
Listen, are you the main piece?
Yes.
He tells her she's the main piece.
Okay, well, let me get into some other notes here, but that was.
He never gets pregnant because, God damn.
Going back to my notes for Leonarda, you were married to a sociopath.
Correct.
You want to give us a quick rundown on that?
Sure.
This was the malcontent person who was very manipulative.
He didn't just do it with me.
He would manipulate people out of their money.
He was a non-violent sociopath.
So you have different kinds.
So low-conflict personality type.
Very feminine in terms of his lack of control over his own emotions.
And so I was young.
I didn't really know much better.
I actually came from a very conservative family and I did not even date anybody until I was 24.
And then Married this guy at 25.
So I had no context for relationships.
I had no idea that this wasn't normal.
So he would do things like out of nowhere, just okay.
Here, I'll give you an example.
I used to be an actress in New York.
And so I did plays, nothing involving any kind of nudity or whatever.
And then one day he just goes, Hey, if you get a movie deal and they ask you to be topless, would you do it?
And I said, Well, are they going to see everything?
Is it going to be insinuated?
And that was enough.
He just snapped.
He snapped and went into a whole rage.
Oh, I knew you were a slut and just firing off.
Okay.
Now, it was his concern that I was actually going to do this.
No.
What was he doing?
He was doing a very manipulative game where you attack someone and you make them feel bad.
You accuse them of things.
And then that gives you power over them.
So the minute that we kind of, we went on this huge fight for absolutely no reason.
And then at the end of it, I was apologizing to him.
So this is one of those, you know, and I wonder about your guy, but it doesn't, I haven't heard anything yet.
But a lot of guys will control a woman's mind this way, where they'll implant certain thoughts to allow for behavior they want to do and then say that that's just the natural order of things.
So was he like diagnosed as a sociopath or is this a bit of hyperbole?
It's not hyperbole.
Okay, so yeah, he was a con artist sociopath.
Yes.
And he made up stories that had nothing to do with reality.
He made up some story how he almost got into the Olympics and then accidentally hurt his leg right beforehand.
And then when we, when I was divorcing him, he was like, that wasn't true.
And yeah, and then he tried to go to couples counseling with me and the therapist told me he's a con artist sociopath.
Wait, and so, Rachel, you have something on sociopath, don't you?
I don't think so.
Do I?
Well, like how a lot of women will overestimate, like no, it's like the girl.
I'm not saying that's the case.
No, that's fine.
No, like I, of the three people I've ever been with, one of them kind of was this way.
But most girls, when you talk to them, if they've been with like 20 dudes and they say 19 of them were narcissists, you can pretty much bet that it's her that's actually the narcissist.
Okay.
Right.
Or if you have it, so I had a tendency of being attracted to not great guys, and that was my own sense of low self-esteem and not really knowing that you could command for to be once I got to the place where I was like, you know what?
If it's this or being alone, I'm totally comfortable being alone.
Then I was able to screen these guys out and get rid of them pretty quickly.
Yeah.
Okay.
Let me have you read this one, okay?
Okay.
By that logic, women should date short, broke, fat men, even though women like athletic, financially free, and tall men.
The traditional con women are undercover feminists.
You can't stop how God made us.
Match.
Is this your boyfriend?
I don't think he's watching this.
He's too busy.
Well, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Appreciate it.
Also, just ripstock, FYI, just the read is 100.
TTS is 200.
Just FYI.
It is below the threshold.
But thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
One last note here for you, Leonarda.
You had a disagreement.
You said that with the show, I think the way you handle women is neglecting your duties as men to lead and protect women even when they stray.
Do you care to elaborate on that?
Yeah, I mean, you're not doing it today, so I can't.
Oh, it's just other days?
I can't go off of this today.
Just a few things that I've seen.
I think that you have a tendency to kind of shame some of these women.
Can you give me an example?
No, because I don't have anything.
I'm just speaking out of my ass right now.
Just based on some clips that I've seen, right?
And I've seen with you and some of these red pill guys, they'll bring on these girls with the only fans.
I don't think so.
Okay.
Yeah.
But I don't like that.
I think there's a lot of this happening on social media where we're trying to, I get it.
We have to make money.
It's interesting.
It's exciting to do this.
But I think that this happens a lot.
I see it online where men will shame women.
And I guess if they're going to be like resistant or whatever, but I don't think that that's the way because she was asking, like, how do we stop this?
And I don't think that is the way because it just confirms their already existing bias that men want to abuse them.
Right.
And so with a lot of this stuff, a lot of it I think, you know, should really be discussed in a different way where you kind of like show them, hey, this is actually not to your benefit.
This isn't good for you.
And actually try to, you know, bring them out of that mentality.
You're not going to always win.
But I don't think that the kind of like expose that happen are the best way to do it.
That's my opinion.
Well, I would need a specific example of.
I know.
I wish I'd done my work.
I think I kind of know what you guys are saying.
And I have friends, female friends who feel this way because my husband's on the show frequently and some of the stuff I say will kind of trigger them.
And I think everyone's instinct is to protect women.
And like what you said in the pre-show notes was even when they've gone astray, we should still protect them.
I didn't quite say we should protect them.
I just don't necessarily know that kind of, you know, stripping them naked and issuing lashes is the way to do it.
Well, metaphorically.
This is my opinion on it.
My work.
My opinion on it is that right now, we don't have a problem of too much woman shaming in general.
Now, you could look at some red.
You've seen my Twitter feed.
You go in?
I go in on everyone.
But I think that we should.
I think that in general we should.
So like how I ended up in two previous bad relationships that, well, I can't even say they were bad because like my first two children I had with my high school boyfriend I was with almost six years.
I knew him my whole life.
Great guy.
He went through some personal shit.
There was no cheating.
There was no blowouts.
There was no like toxicity.
He just went through some really intense personal stuff, left.
Okay.
I'm alone with two kids.
I'm devastated.
I couldn't predict how I ended up here.
I never thought that would be me.
I intended to be with one guy and stay with one guy forever.
It didn't work out.
Put me in a vulnerable position where guy number two comes along.
I meet him.
He sounds great.
He sounds perfect.
Too perfect, in fact.
Marry him, have a baby with him like I'm supposed to as his wife.
And he turns out to actually have some very serious issues I didn't know about that he didn't tell me about.
So I understand what you're saying, where like women can be vulnerable and there can be bad guys.
That's true.
However, when that one left and I'm alone now with three kids and two ex-husbands and I knew everybody, everyone forever for the rest of my life is just going to say, oh, she has three kids with two guys.
And they're going to assume.
They're going to assume I'm a high-value woman.
That I was like promiscuous or that I was sleeping around with Rando's, which I never ever did.
And I'm sitting there at 26 trying to figure out what the fuck do I do now, right?
And what I had to do, I could blame the guys.
I could look at them and all the things they did wrong to me.
But instead, I went, wait a minute, I'm the common denominator here.
There's something about me.
Either I'm attracting this type of guy or I'm attracting certain behaviors.
Something.
I'm the common denominator because they were total opposites.
So I had to take a hard look at myself.
And this is the only way I will say that I think I could be an example to women out there in every other way.
I'm not your life coach.
I'm not your mom.
I'm not the lady with all the wisdom.
But in this one way, I think I can be an example, which is that I took a super hard look at myself at 26, which is hard to do.
We don't like to do that as women.
Be introspective and look at where all our flaws are and where our weaknesses are.
And I went, okay, I see a pattern of what I'm doing.
I see that I sometimes have a bad attitude.
I see that the default feminism was in me too.
I didn't think I was a feminist, and I didn't think I was doing anything particularly immoral or wrong or bad, but I did have like the modern woman attitude to an extent.
And that led me to pick people based on wrong factors.
You have to look at like, you know, your childhood stuff and all that.
But all I'm trying to say is, I think that we have an issue where we tell women that they are perfect.
They can do no wrong.
You're a goddess.
You're a queen.
You slay queen.
You're amazing.
Every man should want you at your best and put up with you at your worst and all this kind of stuff.
We don't say that to men.
Women are the ones being told we're already perfect.
We don't need to change.
Where do you, so I had a totally different upbringing.
Totally different than that.
And my experience with a lot of women is they are incredibly self-critical.
Probably not in the right ways, you know.
But I agree with you.
And I think this is true for men and women, is that you can't really do anything to change the person that you were with.
The only thing you can do is change yourself.
So if something's not going right, whether it was one time or multiple times, I think the answer is always to look inside yourself and see what you can do to fix that.
But is this a common thing that, because I don't know.
I have a totally different upbringing where you guys are brought up and told you're wonderful, special, and all that stuff.
Is that true?
Well, they'll say no, but generally, like when I watch the show and you ask women what went wrong with the previous relationships, they usually will say, oh, he was this and he was that and he did this wrong and he did that.
He wasn't emotionally supportive.
He wasn't this.
It's like every, they'll go through 15 guys and every single time it was the guy and it was never them.
And I'm just like, and I think this is a symptom of us telling women, you're amazing, you're special, you're perfect the way you are.
You don't need to change anything.
You're a goddess.
And I'm just saying this.
That's my thing.
It's always, we're telling women this.
They're saying this.
They're just saying that.
Right, right.
I would say that on the other side.
Taylor Swift.
You look like, I look like a Taylor Swift.
I'm okay.
Are you 50?
No.
Are you 50?
I'm wearing a Taylor shirt right now.
I do not listen to that.
So she can write multiple albums about all her breakups.
And she's had like, what, 27 ex-boyfriends or something?
I love boyfriends.
But it was, and she wrote a funny tongue-in-cheek song called I'm the Problem, It's Me, because everybody was telling her, Hey, Taylor, maybe, perhaps you could be the issue here if every single guy you've ever dated is a total piece of shit.
And you'll hear women do this, right?
And this is why I won't do it, even though the trolls are constantly like, what about your exes?
What about your exes?
I'm not going to give their business because they're private people.
I'm a public person.
They're not.
And I have the respect for them to not tell.
Here's an example.
Here's an example.
If a man cheats, he fucked up.
If a woman cheats, the man fucked up.
Wait, where do you get it?
The woman cheated.
Hold on.
I wasn't meeting my needs.
Where do you get that from?
This is like a common thing.
Because that's not what I see.
Women will constantly argue that when women cheat, the man wasn't meeting some sort of expectation.
But when the man cheats, he's a dog.
He's a piece of shit.
I've seen some of the things that you're doing.
I think emotionally is the best one.
Where if a man doesn't want you to keep the baby, he's an asshole.
He has no right to make that decision.
And if a woman wants to keep it, it's her body.
Go her.
That's a good point.
None of you are giving examples of where the...
You gave Taylor Swift, which I'm not sure I totally agree with that.
Oh, every poet about every singer.
All you guys are saying is they're saying this, they're saying that.
The culture is saying this.
How about the narrative of abortions?
The narrative.
What is the narrative?
I mean, you guys go.
I'm about to explain it to you.
Okay.
Okay.
So basically, the narrative with abortion on the left side.
You do need a cat noise.
The narrative with abortion on the left side is that if you are a woman, it is 100% your decision whether or not that baby lives.
And if you want it to live, fine.
But if you don't, it doesn't matter the man you're with.
It doesn't matter what he thinks.
No, you miss no opinion.
If you give him an opinion, then you're brainwashed.
And the child is not a child.
Like, it's not a fetus.
It's not living.
You can decide what it doesn't.
Science doesn't matter.
Like, we all of a sudden want to get really scientific when we talk about abortion because we're like, oh, it's not, it's like a fetus.
It's not the same thing.
But then, I mean, there are other left arguments that science doesn't matter.
But that is the narrative.
And so if.
Okay, but you're still saying what the narrative is, not who specifically pushing these narratives.
How about that?
Let me hop on the abortion thing here a little bit.
Okay, let me ask you a question, right?
Are you pro-choice?
I am.
Okay.
Shocking.
So what happens?
Let's say you go to UCSB, people hooking up, people aren't always using protection.
Let's say a guy knocks up his 20-year-old girlfriend and she wants to keep it.
What do you say to the man who says, I don't want, I'm not financially ready to be a father.
I am not prepared to be a parent.
What do you say to him?
Me personally, I would say I agree with you.
You should encourage her to get rid of it.
Oh, see, well, hold on.
But, but let's say she's steadfast, good word, steadfast, and she wants to keep.
She's not going to get the abortion.
She wants to keep it.
What do you tell to the man?
What do you say to the man?
I mean, I know this is the answer you're looking for.
I would say, well, you can't force her.
Well, but because I mean, you can't really say something autonomy.
Wouldn't you say something along the lines of step up to the kept your legs closed?
You shouldn't have had sex with her if you didn't want to do that, correct?
You should have thought about it before.
You should have thought about it.
You might be asking the wrong person because I would not say that.
But I'm sure that there are people who would say that.
I am.
Well, here's the because I do believe there are people who would say that.
Okay, so then you're would you be in favor of uh it's called uh uh legal paternal surrender?
So that's basically I don't I yeah, I think I actually would be in favor of that.
So like let's say the woman wants to keep it, the man doesn't, would you be totally fine with the man?
He could make some sort of opt-in decision where he's like, okay, I don't want to be financially responsible for the child.
I don't want custody.
And he could opt out.
Yeah, if it's like legal and informed and like, you know, both sides know what they're agreeing to, yeah, I would say that.
No, the other side, the woman doesn't have to agree to that.
In any state, here's my perspective.
Hold on, let me explain it.
In any state where a woman has a right to get an abortion, I think a man ought to have a corresponding right to what I like to call, some people call the paper abortion.
What I prefer to call a legal paternal surrender.
So the man could say, well, if you have a right to an abortion, but you're opting to keep the child, I have a corresponding right to say, well, I don't want to be custodially irresponsible.
I don't want to be financially responsible for the child.
I would agree with you.
What I mean is the woman should know if he is doing that.
Right.
He shouldn't be able to hide it.
Like, you know what I mean?
Okay, so like make a disclosure.
$200.
That's reasonable.
Lips with their backwards/slash gorilla logic can't agree on when life starts.
Heartbeat, cognition, birth, etc.
Shouldn't the logical answer be to default back to conservation to eliminate potential murder?
We'll come back to that in just a second.
Actually, I disagree with you because a woman could opt to get an abortion without having to make any disclosures to the man ergo.
I think a man in a state where this, and frankly, this will never be, this will never pass anywhere, even in super progressive liberal states, where this would be at least some form of equality on the reproductive rights thing, at least for men.
But frankly, liberals and progressives don't give a fuck about men.
And frankly, neither do conservatives.
At least they give, it's a very liberals and progressives don't give a fuck about men if they're not even just anti-men.
Conservatives, it's like token.
It's a very token support for men.
But this will never happen, so it's just kind of a fool's errand.
But I don't think there should be disclosure on the man's part.
Brixon, such a bad take, even worse for society, encouraging men to blow loads in 304s, and then it makes even more single mothers and taxpayers pay.
In any state where abortion is legal, it occurs to me that if we're like living in this egalitarian, equal, you know, which we don't, but, well, in terms of like, we have equality for women, not really for men, though, especially on the reproductive front, there is no, men have absolutely zero reproductive rights, while women have exactly.
So you're saying just what's good for the goose should be good for the gander.
Like, if you have the right to unilateral abortion, you have the right to unilateral divorce, then men should have the same.
Dave Chappelle put it very eloquently.
If you have the right to murder a child, I at least ought to have the right to abandon it.
Yeah, and actually, I think that logic would promote, I mean, like, if that were a thing, it would promote, it would force people to have to take responsibility for sex, for what they're engaging in.
It would force them to have conversations because all of a sudden, there's a lot more at stake.
Whereas right now, there's just not a lot of stakes.
So it's interesting.
I have a question for you.
Why do you think men should have to, in this hypothetical scenario where there's a paper abortion, why should a man have to disclose to a woman that he's opting out?
I think that...
So she has, she can reconsider the abortion?
Yeah, I would say to reconsider, because if, you know, you think you're going to have two incomes to support a child, you're going to be getting child support, whatever, and then after the child is born, you don't receive that, I think that could really negatively impact the child's life.
So I think a woman should know what, at least have a good idea about what is going to happen post-birth.
I mean, what if it was, I mean, even in the scenario where it was like a casual encounter where she would have no reasonable expectation that this man intended, like, consent to sex, this is kind of consent to sex is not consent to fatherhood.
I think it is.
Or is it?
Or if it is, then consent to sex should also be consent to motherhood on the woman.
No, we have to be consistent.
Right, yeah.
That's the thing.
I don't think your logic is very consistent, but I think that from a pro-choice?
Hold on.
From the male perspective, if a male consents to sex, is that him consenting to fatherhood?
No, I don't think so.
You don't think so?
No, that's how it is, actually, currently.
Well, I know, and I'm saying I agree that if a woman is going to go forth with a pregnancy that a man does not want to provide for, I mean, that's her choice to have the child.
I agree that he should have the choice to not be supportive.
I just think that I'm thinking about the child here after it's born.
I think that you should know what you're getting into.
And that's part of the reason I'm pro-choice is because I don't think that children being born in certain situations are having very good lives.
So you think it's better for them to be dead?
Yes, I genuinely do.
So we should just kill all poor people because they're not having a good life.
They're already alive.
They're already alive.
Poor people are the only ones having babies, by the way, right now.
And the only people.
So you'd be fine with just, you know, the human race dying out.
I mean, I'm going to die someday.
That just goes down.
You're like eight for eight now when I've asked this question to a feminist.
Would I be like, oh, it's not a good idea.
But she's not under any propaganda or brainwashing.
No, not the death cult that's pushing.
She hasn't even heard of the end of the human rights.
She hasn't even heard of it.
I would not be fine with it ending in my lifetime because I personally try to avoid suffering.
But that's pretty selfish, though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think everyone alive is pretty selfish.
Well, we'll try to avoid suffering and try to.
Wait, last question on this, and then we'll move to a different topic.
Do you think that men should pay child support before the child is even born?
Like pregnancy support?
I think they should pay before they even have sex with the woman.
So prostitution.
So down payment.
Yeah, I actually do.
I think like in your situation where they can opt out, if they're like, I don't consent to being a father, no thank you, then no.
But if they're going to be paying child support, then yeah, I think they should also support through the pregnancy.
None of these questions.
We used to have a thing called marriage.
Thank you.
I'm going to do that.
I'm pro-marriage.
I don't believe children should be born out of wedlock.
Wait, so one question is.
She says, kill them.
Just kill them.
So how early on, like, could it, for example, if the woman finds out, like, when do women typically find out four or five weeks?
Yeah, it's not, I think, to six weeks.
So should it be retroactive?
Let's say, like, should the retroactive child support, pre-birth child support, be retroactive up until conception?
No, once you know.
Oh, once you know.
Okay, so like it's a powerful thing.
I think that would be a difficult legal thing to work out.
The man should start paying?
Well, not paying all of it.
Should start paying child support.
Yeah.
At what point in the pregnancy?
Like four weeks in?
If she finds out, let's say she finds out at four weeks in.
Should the man be paying child support?
Law paladins donated $200.
You just got to the crux of the matter.
Women have been brainwashed to believe that humans that reproduce are bad and it's better if humans cease to exist.
Yep.
Literal death counts.
It's called Malcuseanism.
I don't think so.
And I also don't believe in overpopulation.
Wait, so just back to my thing.
So the woman finds out four weeks in, she's pregnant.
So is that at the point the man should pay child support?
Well, the point I think would be whatever going forward, okay, I'm pregnant.
Whatever prenatal care you need, you should.
I think it should just be whatever point the pregnancy is known.
It should be retroactive.
Hold on.
So you are, though, in favor that the man should pay child support prior to birth.
I'm not against it.
I'm not like screening for this.
Starting at four weeks or so?
Starting whenever, like, if you don't know what I'm saying.
Okay, let's say it's four weeks.
Sure, yeah.
Okay.
So you are acknowledging that it is a child at four weeks.
Yeah, I went into the whole, you can watch my one-on-one debate with Andrew Wilson.
Okay, just wanted to.
So can I just say something?
This is exactly where we have an issue, okay?
Because she's saying he should and he should be forced to and he should be made to.
And it's like, who's doing that?
Okay, the government, right?
So what we have done is we have created this nanny state where instead of people taking responsibility and accountability for their lives, because this is what women used to do.
They used to screen men and say, are you going to take care of me and your children?
And if you're not, I'm not going to have sex with you.
And if I make the wrong decision, the responsibility of that decision falls upon my shoulders.
We have now abdicated that responsibility and said, I don't want to be responsible for anything.
Somebody should take care of this.
Let's use the power of the state to enforce my will because I didn't have the self-control, wherewithal, or insight to make that decision in the right time.
And this is why we are in a problem.
And so do you think that's actually really interesting?
I haven't thought about that.
So if, for example, if we were to get rid of child support, do you think women would be a bit more responsible when it comes to who they have sex with?
Well, first of all, two things.
If you got rid of child support and welfare, because there's a nice net there, okay?
All of a sudden, those legs would be closing up.
So are you guys pro or anti-natalist?
I mean, if you would like to prevent these births, do you want to take away safety nets for women who do get pregnant?
Sounds like you're part of the death support.
Nope, nope, nope, nope.
I did not say prevent the births.
First of all, something totally different will shift in the way that men behave.
You will still have a proportion of men who are going to be trying to sleep with women and they're going to be doing it, but it's not going to be the majority of men.
Most men are going to be looking to get married because they want to have sex, which is the whole point is to reproduce.
They will.
Do you think people should be getting married just because they want to have sex?
It's a primary motivation.
What do you think marriage is about?
That's one of the things about love and not partnership.
No, that's all BS.
No, no, it is.
Of course it is.
Of course it is.
But out of, here's the thing: people, we're so disconnected.
Children are the blossom of the love that you have.
It's like a flower blooming out of something beautiful.
That's all gone.
All of that is washed away because it's not even your responsibility.
It's the state's responsibility, and somebody should do it instead of you looking at your own accountability.
If you want to be treated as an equal, as an equal adult, as a man, then you must behave exactly the same way.
You must share the same responsibilities, the same accountability, and not leave it to be somebody else's problem to clean up the mess that you didn't have the thought process to go through.
And I'm not saying you can't get help.
People need help all the time.
We all make mistakes.
It's not meant to beat you down because you've made a mistake.
But we are now living in a society that encourages this and encourages absolutely no accountability on behalf of women and pretty soon on behalf of men.
It's actually provably true what she's saying because in my book, I point out that if you look from 1960 to now and you plot out on a graph out-of-wedlock births and the growth of the welfare state on a map or like on a graph, they go up exactly in tandem like this, like perfect lock step with each other.
So we basically just replaced marriage and paternity fathers with the state and welfare.
And you could see women on the same graph.
Can you repeat that?
The welfare state is rising with the birth rates.
With out of wedlock births.
With out of wedlock birth.
And you can freeze.
It's a black community.
It's clear.
Okay.
I have a couple comments about that.
Sure.
First of all, I know you, I don't know about your debates so much, but I know Andrew's debates, he relies a lot on like sociological studies are unreproducible.
So, I mean, how can you say that that, if there's such a replication crisis, that's not a sociological study because you just have to look at the actual dollars.
But how did they collect that spend?
How did they collect that data?
Could that be reproduced?
Could the data collection?
How they collected the data of like, however they're measuring out of wedlock births, and how are they measuring out-of-wedlock births reporting?
So I'll explain.
Welfare, you measure by literal federal welfare dollars spent.
Okay, so that's just math.
Which they track.
And then how are they accounting for confounding variables when they're comparing the two?
I'm not saying that they're comparing the two.
I'm saying I compared the two confounding variables.
You don't necessarily need to account for all.
No, Alex.
Well, shut up and I'll explain.
So if you look at out-of-wedlock births, that's something that when you go to have the baby, right?
And if you don't put married to the dad on the birth certificate, it's an out-of-wedlock birth.
Or you're not, you know, taking the same last name like they did back in the day.
I'm just saying, I'm not saying it's causative.
I'm saying it's exactly correlative.
And there are times where happens to be antidepressants.
There are times where, even if it's just a correlation, if they are in exact lockstep with each other, if it was like this, that might be one thing.
But when they go like this together, exactly the same, it's highly indicative of the fact that we are positive.
You're making a lot of money.
It's climate control, you'd be incentivizing out-of-wedlock births by rewarding people with financial support from the state.
So rather than you're making a causal claim, I'm also using logic.
I'm using logic.
But I mean like sorry.
That thing?
Logic.
Okay, go ahead.
Go ahead.
That logic thing where you can see that obviously as soon as we start incentivizing global warming for out of wedlock.
There are more of them.
But no, no, because I'm going to say this.
She's going to say that she believes those statistics and those correlations, but these correlations are not.
And this is the annoying.
I'm not saying that.
Okay, so do you believe in global warming?
She works for Shell.
Yeah.
I actually, my father is a double mobile executioner.
Okay, well, now we're going to attack you because you don't believe it.
That's fine.
Yeah.
Wait, I do have to move things on a little bit here.
Let me read a couple chats, then we'll get into our next thing.
Can I have you read this one, please?
Maybe a few women.
Well, man.
Women.
It doesn't stay on the screen.
Stop being so judgmental and stop ranking human beings and picking their partners on their net worth with love and respect.
The rest will fall in place in lasting relationships.
I think most women feel that way, buddy.
I mean, not her, but a lot.
Most women do feel that way.
I'm not saying that you should pick a man because of his net worth.
I'm just saying most women all go for the same 1% of men.
And you guys are probably all guilty of it.
Not true.
Nobody wants my man.
Let me tell you that.
I was broke as fuck when we started dating.
He's an incredible man.
He's a high-value man, but he was never like a wealthy man.
He had to work incredibly hard for me to be able to stay home with the kids and all that.
You don't have to be wealthy to be a high-value man.
The things that he had going for him was incredible charisma.
I don't know if you've ever watched The Crucible Vocabulary.
Woo!
Yeah, he's got Riz.
And he's very handsome, but he was really emotionally stable.
He was really dependable.
His yes is yes.
His no is no, like that kind of thing.
He's got big-time masculine energy, things like that.
So it wasn't that he was like high status.
He didn't have a Bugatti or none of that.
You don't have to be high status to be high value.
What do you think is high value then?
But that's what that guy's talking about.
He's talking, you're talking about going for the top, same, the same top 1%.
That's the same thing.
That's high status, high value.
That's women.
Rightly, can you read this one?
Yeah.
Thank you, Lolly.
Why are we shaming Blondie for securing a high-value man when Rachel has two divorces and Nanny McPhee is expired?
I'm Nanny McPhee.
You're Nanny McPhee?
Wait, go ahead.
I mean, I don't think she's securing anything like this.
That are securing that same job.
It's just who gets pregnant first is the game.
That emo girl came in with the win.
Right.
Go off.
Go off, Queen.
It just.
Tattoos on girls is trashy.
Oh, come on.
We don't like ourselves.
Liking Andrew Tate is trash.
That's an ad hominem attack.
That's an ad hominem attack.
Good point.
Ad hom.
Don't put bumper stickers on a Bentley.
Don't spray paint over fine arm, babe.
Hey, can we say the same thing about your fake titties, though?
Because you're putting, you know, God made you to have small titties and you destroyed it.
You know, somewhere there's a man who was dreaming of you and wanted A cups, and now you've ruined it.
You've ruined it.
You've ruined it, right?
More than a handful's eyes.
Okay.
Good talk.
I'm kidding.
No, I know.
Okay.
We have evils, real.
Could you read this one, Celeste?
Hi, Rachel.
Your husband said you're obese because of a disease.
Did you get diagnosed at the Orthodox Church or MD?
Love the cherry-picking of science you believe in hypocrites/slash delusional.
This is a male feminist.
Like I said, I have very dedicated haters.
There's like three people with like 30 SOC accounts that follow me everywhere I go just to talk shit.
That's how you know you're over the target.
Good times.
We have another one.
If you can read this one, please.
Scarcity is needed for the balance of the sexes to work properly.
When we lose scarcity, we get a mouse utopia.
What if listening to the music?
Brixen, please look this up.
Yeah.
That's a guy who made he made a thing called Mouse Utopia, which shows they did this experiment with mice and they repeated it over and over again.
And what they did is they put mice living in kind of a utopia society where they're given everything, including access to mates and everything.
And they're pod mice.
They're supposed to go up to a certain level of population, but they always stop about 30% short of that and the society collapses.
The male mice start acting feminine, the female mice start acting masculine, exactly what we have now.
And it fails every time.
All right.
We have Darren Jones here.
Thank you for the super chat, man.
I really appreciate it.
Could I have you go ahead?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that thing.
Brian, after watching your show for nine months, I feel the assets should not be split in marriage.
Each party should have to prove ownership.
No alimony, no more child support.
Based?
I mean, it's complicated, though, because I mean, the typical argument that you'll hear from the other side, which does have some merit, is that, for example, if a woman, you know, marries young and she disregards, for example, going to college and disregards pursuing a career, and then if in the event of a divorce, especially if the man is the initiator of the divorce, although that's pretty overwhelmingly rare,
women tend to initiate divorces somewhere between 70 to 80 percent.
There is a decent argument to be made that, you know, if especially if you've then gone on and have kids, but that's for child support, but specifically on the alimony component, is she going to be able to provide for herself after she's given 10, 20 years to the household and not in pursuit of a career?
I don't know if Rachel, you have any thoughts there, but I'm not 100% against alimony.
I think it ought to be reasonable, though.
Sometimes you'll hear these kind of crazy alimony numbers.
And well, I would just do away with unilateral and no-fault divorce altogether, reinstitute sacramental marriage, not make it some cheapened bullshit certificate that you get from your county that nobody gives a shit about.
And people would be serious again about marriage.
And then this would be an outlier situation that, in my opinion, should be dealt with through ecclesiastical authority.
Meaning, if you get married, you get married through your church.
If there's a divorce for whatever reason, the church handles that situation.
got it and then no not yet so So we had a chat that came in very early on in the show.
I made a note to ask it.
I forgot about it.
So the question was something along the lines of: would you date me?
Starting with you.
Go ahead.
I'm not asking this.
One of the chatters are.
No, you don't even want to know the answer to the question.
I think.
That was me being sarcastic that you're not interested in this question at all.
By the way, if it's a no, I'm not going to be a good person.
I mean, I think on both ends, it would be a no, like you and me.
Like, I don't think we.
Why do you say that?
I obviously, I don't look like I'd be your type.
And who would look like my type?
Very minimal makeup, very natural, young, or not younger than me, hopefully, because that would be questionable.
Well, you're 22, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, I mean, how old are you?
34.
Yeah, I mean, I mean, you shouldn't be dating like an 18-year-old at 34 or something, but if she's a consenting, adult, strong woman, and that's why she just got out of high school.
So she has the block.
But wait, but wait, if she's 18 and she can sign a lease and she can drive a car and she can hold a job and she can go to college, she can do all these things, but she can't decide who she wants to date.
I mean, I just personally are not.
Are 18-year-old women full women or are they not?
Have the choice, you know, they can or can't, but me, I just view it as like a little odd for someone to go for, yeah, it's just icky because I'm like, this person was literally living with their parents four months ago.
They were like a child, legally a child.
Let's also just be clear, let's not strawman my dating preferences.
No, no, no, I'm not.
I've never made anything.
I don't know your dating preferences or anything, but I'm just saying, like, I'm just like, I mean, I actually, in terms of the range of age, I would date, I'll date a woman who's older than me, I'll date a woman my age, I'll date younger.
Yeah, no, dating younger is fine.
I will date an adult woman.
Yeah.
Okay.
But I'm not like, for example, would I date like a 20-year-old?
Sure.
Would I date a woman who's older than me?
I'll date, shit, there's plenty of cool, attractive women, even in their 40s.
I dated a woman who's in her 40s, not my preference.
There you go.
Oh, was it on camera?
Nope.
It was just getting close.
I just noticed it.
It was shitting itself down.
Zip it up.
Put it on, zip it up.
But it's also like, okay, I would conceivably date a woman who's 20, but I'm also not like going to college parties in pursuit of dating a 20-year-old.
Like, it would have to be the scenario for me to date a 20-year-old.
She would have to either DM, like, she would have to contact me.
I'm not like going out of my way to go date.
I'm going to get a 20-year-old.
Contact him at.
Well, you're supposed to plug your ad so they can find you.
Okay, at BD Under Square Alice.
But what I'm saying is, I'll play along there.
But yeah, like the girl would have to DM me.
I'm not hanging out at college parties and shit trying to get like a college girl, you know?
Yeah.
So, yeah.
I mean, yeah, I don't, I don't know.
I go based off of like personality a lot.
Like, obviously, looks are a fatter factor, but personality is like huge for me.
Wait, can you just zip that up a little bit more?
Just go all the way.
Maybe, maybe, like, it's a little longer.
It's so hot.
I'm sorry.
Can we get her on?
Can somebody get her in a burqa, please, quickly?
I need to buy one for the show.
You do one of these days.
Okay, all right.
No.
I think she's good.
It's good.
It's fine.
Okay.
But, anyways, like, I can fix her.
I can fix her.
It's okay.
Like I was saying, it really depends on personality.
I don't know you as a person.
Wait, can you show us your forehead tattoo?
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
What, your forehead tattoo?
No, I've literally talked about this with so many people.
I'm like, the forehead, for me, my forehead is so sacred.
Like, I talk about this on the internet.
I was like, I'd rather have a guy see my butthole than my forehead.
Something's gotta be sacred.
I literally, I gotta do it.
You'd rather a guy see your butt.
Obviously, that's kind of a joke.
Obviously, that's kind of like for me.
Your forehead's an intimate thing.
Intimate for me.
It's just like.
I didn't want to see your forehead.
I don't care, but I want to see the tattoo on the forehead.
I have one right here.
Okay.
Oh, no.
We're seeing your body.
Full metal alchemist.
Full metal alchemist.
Oh, yeah.
This is Black Butler.
Wait, speaking of tattoos, actually.
Yeah.
I did a review of your Instagram.
You have a 666 tattoo and a pentagram tattoo.
My tattoo.
But you also, and it's on your lower body, those two, correct?
You also, this is all big banger.
This is all in your screen.
Interestingly enough, you have a cross.
I think it's a passion cross, a cross.
A passionate cross, yes.
On your lower back.
You have a cross trampoline.
Yes.
A tramp stamp cross tattoo.
So they can know that they're sinning.
Is this just edgelording or are you serious about it?
No, I so seriously do have an upside-down cross on my crack, believe it or not.
But is it because you like actually hate Christianity and think Satanism?
Honestly, or are you just like, I'm so edgy?
Originally got the tattoo, I grew up Christian.
I'm baptized and everything.
Like, I grew up Christian St. Baptist Church.
No, I'm sorry.
It was like, I don't know.
Like, I grew up Christian.
Like, my mom's Christian, my whole family.
It's just like me personally, whenever I went to church and stuff, like, I know the priest behind the scenes, I used to dance.
He would, like, come to the club and do lines and shit.
Like, I just know that, like, most religion to me is just like brainwashing.
Like, to just get you to believe.
So, I'm, I don't hate Christianity or anything like that.
I'm agnostic.
I don't know if you're tattooing an upside-down cross on your ass crack.
I would, but that's what I'm saying.
During the time, during the time when I got those tattoos, I was in a darker place.
And I would say I did, I was also not in a very good place with my family.
So, um, tattoos make classy women trashy.
You keep saying that girl, but you keep it.
Probably loves the tattoos.
So, I'm gonna get those digits later.
I mean, he's looking for more women, so why not ask?
Can I ask you a question?
You said you think that high-value man, okay.
You think that you think that religion is brainwashing, you said?
I, well, to me personally, when I was in Christianity and stuff, like I felt like I was brainwashing stuff too.
To what?
Brainwashed to believe what?
Especially for emotionally, like they try to have you emotionally trauma-bond.
Uh, I've been to like church camps and stuff where they would have you, like, share your traumas and stuff and all cry together.
That sounds like a cult.
That's not normal.
And that's Christianity, yeah.
I've, um, and also make the decision as well.
I feel like the most judgmental people I've met in my life have been like Christians.
Have you met a liberal?
Yeah, I mean, it's just like, I just, I don't have any hate.
I feel like Jesus Christ would be a cool fucking dude.
You know, he hung out with everyone.
So, like, I feel like if that is true, he would be a cool dude.
But what did he tell them?
When people say he hung out with everyone, what did he tell them?
He hanged out with the two people.
What did he tell them?
What did he tell you?
He prostitutes.
He told them to stop prostituting.
He told the thieves to stop thieving.
He told, right, he told people to stop.
Yeah, but at the same time, repent and follow.
He didn't really judge them for the future.
And he is the judge.
Christ is the judge.
He is the ultimate judge.
Well, he did say judge the action, but still held the value of the person.
But he always said, stop sinning, repent, and come to me.
Isn't that problematic?
And he also told the sinners that wanted to stone that adulteress.
If you're without sin, cast for someone.
Jim Bob would like to know about the bar quitters.
Shout out, Jimba.
And also, he would strongly endorse a whatever blur effect to prevent nip slips or just hide the demonic degenerate women.
Oh my God.
Okay.
Thank you, ma'am.
Appreciate it.
Okay, so that's a no for you.
Let's go back to the question, though.
Would they date me?
Will not offend.
I will not be offended at all.
I mean, I honestly don't know because I don't know you as a person.
But if from right now, I would say no because I don't know you.
Okay, so it's kind of like, because it sounded like you said you think I wouldn't date you.
So it's kind of like I'm going to return to you.
I think it would be like, I think you wouldn't date me, like, because I know I've seen your show and I've seen your type of views.
And I don't think we have the same views.
And I don't think we would, you know, be on the same note with things.
And so I just like, for me personally, with my partners, I like to at least be on somewhat of the same page.
We can agree to disagree on things, but.
It's okay.
Yeah.
It's all right.
It's okay.
It's funny.
Oh, you're so cool, though.
Probably not.
Okay, I can fix her, though, but okay.
Probably not, but I think I could fix Brian.
I can fix you.
I can fix you.
But I am intrigued about your personal life.
I would not date you, but I would like go.
I would have a drink with you to hear stories about your personal life.
Okay.
When I came here in October, I was super interested.
Ooh.
Oh.
But I don't know where I stand as much now.
Fair enough.
Okay.
Well, while you do have some very nice Aryan features, Aryan features.
He has lovely eyes.
You know what's funny?
People will send me like AI-generated versions of me, but like as a certain fascist leader.
Yes.
A guy with a talent.
No, like, they're like, Brian, you kind of, if you changed a few things, you kind of look a little bit like a certain person.
And that is appealing to me.
We know your type.
Dictator.
At first, you kind of struck me as a little bit of an insecure man, and so I wasn't quite, well, you know, you know, but I don't know.
You've sort of proven yourself to be a little bit different.
Okay.
You know?
All right, there you go.
So maybe.
That's amazing.
That's a maybe.
There you have it, folks.
All right.
I'm going to have to say no.
Well, you're in a relationship.
Yeah.
You're not high-value enough.
And you're not going to sleep with other women no matter what she does.
That's true.
Yeah, I tend to be more on the monogamous side.
What about you?
No.
Okay.
That's the only thing she said the whole show, by the way.
I have some questions for her.
I'm going to loop her in.
Don't worry.
What about you?
No, just because of age.
Just because of age?
It's okay.
I can fix you.
I can fix her.
Well, are you going to sleep in your car?
Because you'll win her over.
Please don't.
No, definitely no car.
I got back problems, so I need a good mattress, a good bed.
There are nice cars.
She had a Cadillac.
We had a car mattress.
Exactly.
There you go.
I would not date you now.
It's okay.
I get it.
Wait, hold on.
Wait, hold on.
This was not.
Are you currently dating a man or a woman?
No, I'm dating a man.
I only date Catholics, too.
Oh.
Wait, why?
For some reason, I looked on your Instagram.
I thought you were dating a woman.
It's just the soccer shirt.
Yeah.
Don't give it a little soccer, you know.
I just like to be more modest.
Sorry.
I'm just messing with you.
I'm really interested in that.
I'm just doing modesty.
I just thought lesbians play soccer.
Wait, does my Instagram show that I'm dating a woman?
No, I don't remember what it was, but like there was a photo.
Maybe it was like you with a female friend.
I don't know, whatever.
It doesn't matter.
Okay.
All right.
There you have it, folks.
All right.
And then we have Mujana.
Wait, we didn't ask her if she would date you.
Oh.
Rachel's.
I see no one but Andrew.
I'm alpha widowed.
If anything happens to him, it's over for me.
But Brian's cool.
He's my Caucasian.
Yeah, she's my Caucasian.
We're friends.
Like, we're homies.
Can I have you read this one?
Wow, who the fuck cares?
Oh.
Hold on.
Wow, who the fuck cares about if there should be a child support or not?
Wow, like you all forgot what it's about the child.
You forced that kid into existence and they deserve the best pay up.
Look at that language.
Force that kid into existence.
So that you are the crux of the problem because you think existence is a burden.
It is.
It's a gift.
It is a burden.
It's a gift and a burden.
That's why you think the way you think because you literally have swallowed the brainwash.
Oh, I love you live, but that's definitely burden.
Too much fluoride for this one.
Way too much fluoride.
Gnostic kind of presuppositions about like, I'm trapped in my flesh.
I never said relativism through I mean, we all face burdens.
And you guys are lying if you say you've never felt a burden in my life.
Existence is a gift.
If any of us really believed that it was a burden, we wouldn't be here.
We would have taken ourselves out a long time ago.
No, I think she had a good question, though.
Are you pro-choice, Brian?
That's an interesting question.
You're going to lose to half your fans even their way every time.
Well, I mean, look, I've kind of already talked about it on the show.
Frankly, there's certain political things I don't like to get into in terms of my views on it.
Pro-life arguments are extremely compelling.
However, I do see these sort of current status quo.
Like, practically speaking, pretty much any woman in honestly any state, because I believe it's the case, even though some states have, I think they've outlawed practitioners.
Like, women can get like the pill or whatever pretty much in any state, is my understanding.
Even the states it's like banned, you can just order it.
And I don't think on the federal level, because I think the male is on the federal level, I don't know the exact details of it.
Practically speaking, any woman in this country can get an abortion.
And truth be told, I kind of put men's rights advocacy above any sort of conservative values.
I'm not even sure if I'm really even conservative, but it occurs to me that when it comes to reproductive rights, the current status quo is women have a monopoly on reproductive rights in this country, regardless of the state you're in.
And then, for example, especially here in California, women have pretty much unlimited, unfettered access to abortion.
So it does occur to me that it would be equal for men to be able to have what I call legal paternal surrender.
We already talked about that.
Some people call it paper abortion.
If y'all can murder the kid, we should at least be able to abandon it.
So are you saying that, like, because banning abortion is not realistic, it's better to go for, you know, take a men's rights approach to the current like reproductive laws?
Well, I mean, that is the current status quo.
I think it's going to be, and since, you know, the whole Roe v. Wade thing, that wasn't about banning abortion.
That just put it back to the states.
There are going to be some states that are going to make moves to limit women's access to abortion.
There's going to be some states, for example, California.
I can't imagine any scenario unless at the federal level there's a ban, which I'm not clear if that's going to ever happen, but any woman could get an abortion in California.
Ergo, I think that any man in California who gets a woman pregnant, I'm not saying he ought, he should do this, but he should have the option to forego responsibility in the same way that women have that option because we have a gynocentric, as you said, a gynocentric society.
Women have all these rights without any corresponding duties or responsibilities.
It occurs to me if we're going to be on this equality, egalitarian thing, men should also have reproductive rights on this front.
Just essentially, like, you are against abortion, but because abortion is legal, you're for men's rights.
Like, I guess.
Pro-life arguments are incredibly compelling.
Incredibly compelling.
And are not so easily dismissed.
But on a practical level, on a practical level, that's what I'm talking about.
Okay, if it was completely illegal, then would you feel differently?
Like, if we did outlaw abortion across the board, or would you still want the men to be able to opt out?
If abortion was outlawed completely, then no.
It would not be, men should not have the legal paternal surrender.
I think that's consistent.
Yeah, but it's not illegal, really.
So it occurs to me that this would be equality for the feminists, although feminism has never really been about equality, really.
I'm kind of okay, so you said women have the monopoly on reproductive rights.
Yes.
I mean, women are the ones who reproduce, so doesn't it make sense that they would have the monopoly on reproductive rights?
I mean, they don't reproduce.
Wait, how do they reproduce?
Yeah.
Well, they're the ones, they're the only ones who give birth.
Can a woman choose to get an abortion because she doesn't want to be financially responsible for the child?
Yeah, no, I.
But let's say she's willing to go through with the actual physical childbirth process, but she determines I'm kind of young.
I'm not financially ready.
So is that justification enough from your worldview for a woman to get an abortion?
Yeah, so I mean, okay.
No, I was going to ask, do you consider, so you think that like the legal surrender, whatever, that you would consider that a reproductive right?
Yes.
Okay.
I was just, I was curious what you were saying by reproductive rights.
Wait, but answer the actual question.
Oh, which, sorry, repeat the question.
So if a woman, let's say she's willing to go through the physical difficulty of being pregnant and through childbirth, but she's keen to get an abortion because for financial reasons, do you think that that is pretext enough for a woman to get an abortion?
Yeah, but you already know I agree with the whole like financial surrender thing.
Okay, yeah, so I'm just saying.
No, yeah, I was just curious your definition.
Faucho?
Fauchle?
Yes.
Wait, okay, hold on.
Where were we?
I forgot where we were.
How did we get there?
We already answered the dating Brian.
This corner of the room would probably.
Well, I have a couple chats here, so let me pull these up.
American Land of Free, Loud Slavic MILF lives on Ann Hominin's.
Let's Dance Girl is hottest on panel.
Oh, dude, you're getting a lot of compliments today.
Thank you guys.
We're going to call her Trailer Swift.
Okay.
Just kidding.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
Rachel, against America's Founding Fathers, Shame, Moral Authoritarian Putin worshipper, deport to Russia.
Do you even know what an ad hominem is?
What am I doing?
I'm not a Putin worshipper, but the American founding was incredibly flawed.
And if you want to get into that, I suppose we could, but I don't think Brian wants to.
So.
Sorry, I'm not an Americanist.
Go read my sub stack.
Find out why.
Read the sub stack, boys.
And then we have Mujana.
Once again, why is the discussion on pro not even happening?
It's a woman's body, her life, and her choice.
When man forces her to do his bidding, then that's ownership.
Well, hold on.
My wallet, my choice, first off.
You don't own your wallet.
It belongs to the state.
That's true.
Fiat.
True.
Okay, moving.
Let's bring Gigi into this.
Gigi, let me get my notes here.
You said that you had a hot take on dating, serial dating, and crazy relationship story as a guy I was talking to who was two-timing you and this girl who also appeared on the podcast.
Like you were in class, you were classes to him?
What?
Okay, you were dating a guy who was or sleeping with a guy who was also fucking a chick who had been on the podcast?
Yeah, she was on the podcast.
Do you know her name?
I don't want to say it.
I don't, out of respect for her, because just, I don't know, she's still taking away.
Has she been on twice?
No, she's only been on once.
Brian's like trying to figure out who it is.
Yeah, she's been on once.
If I say exactly what she said, then I feel like you would have an idea.
But I don't want to say her name.
I'm just a whole hint.
Give some hints here.
I just don't, because I don't want her to hate me even more than she probably already does.
I haven't talked to her at all.
Then you said that she blocked you on social media?
Yeah.
I didn't even know.
She blocked you.
You can say it.
No.
No.
I can't say it.
All right, that's fine.
What was the story?
Quick story there.
You said drama was insane, friendship.
Yeah.
Blah, blah, blah.
The whole thing, because I've known her since I think we were like children, like in elementary school.
And I've also known the guy.
Same.
He went to the same school overall.
I was talking to him.
I have like a whole timeline and everything.
Like Thanksgiving break.
And we were talking.
Everything was going.
Like, I thought it was going well.
I was hanging out with his friends.
He was hanging out with my friends.
And I think a month after that, so it was like December, I found out about her.
I let her know.
I not let her know, but I told her what was going on.
Like that he was getting with me.
And then that he was also getting with her.
And then comes to find out he was also getting with many more girls that I didn't know.
And we.
Has he been on the show?
No, he goes to like a whole different college and everything.
Because we had a guy on the show a long time ago who's like smashed like five girls who've been on the show.
Oh, he told me his body count was like 20 something plus.
I don't even know.
It's probably more now.
But okay, maybe I'll give you a little hint.
But she said that her, like on the podcast, you asked if her relationship was monogamous.
And she said, like, she paused and she was like, yes.
That is not enough detail for me to do that.
Okay, then that's good.
We're doing perfectly fine.
All right.
So basically, you were dating a guy and he was sleeping with another chick.
Yeah, but she went out of her way to, so when I joined SBCC, there's like that little ad page where you could basically like just let people know like who you are.
Her and her roommate both made rude comments to me and like was basically just like bullying me like in my own like in that case.
Okay, but you got to give us the actual details.
Otherwise it's not really interesting.
I know.
But the comment, okay, they called me a fish.
Why?
Like a catfish?
No, like that I smelled like a salmon?
Oh, and I smelled like fish.
She doesn't smell, I promise you guys.
No, because I guess like a whole rumor that had gone around in our high school about that with a guy that I didn't even do anything with threw that around and they did that in the comment section.
And people start rumors based on nothing a lot of times.
Yeah.
And it's very tempting to believe them because they start with such confidence.
But ask Andrew's black ex-wife about that.
We have something here.
We have notes here for Mackenzie.
McKenzie, you said you have somewhat limited dating experience.
You have some situationship stories.
But it sounds like a guy was cheating on you, got ditched on Valentine's Day.
I did.
And my birthday.
Same guy or different?
Same guy.
It's just, yeah, I was seeing him for a while, like right when I first moved out here.
And it was going really well.
Initially, he didn't want any relationship, but I did.
Then he wanted a relationship, but at that point, I was kind of like three months in.
If you don't want to date me, then like I'm moving on at that point.
You should know if you want to be in a relationship with me at that point.
So then I was kind of checked out.
He wanted to start dating.
And then we kind of just kept it going because I was like, hey, like, I still like you.
So I do want to maybe give us this another chance since he was going to go anywhere possibly.
Next, you know, like Valentine's Day is rolling up.
And I'm like, oh my God, I'm actually going to have like a Valentine's Day thing going on.
Like I was really hoping.
I was like, maybe even, you know, my birthday's coming up.
Like, maybe he'll ask maybe his girlfriend or something.
Guess Valentine's Day.
The day before Valentine's Day, he doesn't like text me like at all, besides like one time.
Next day, I'm getting all ready.
I have a dress picked out.
Like I'm ready to do our stuff.
He just doesn't show up.
Doesn't text, doesn't call.
Then a week later, he's like, oh, what did you end up doing on Valentine's Day?
And I was like, ooh.
I thought we were supposed to do something.
And then he's like, okay, well, I'll make it up to you to do something for your birthday.
Doesn't do anything for my birthday and completely forgets about it.
And his birthday is literally the day after mine, too.
So I was like, he didn't forget.
He's a brave and a decent man.
He's a pioneer.
This guy sounds like a legend, to be honest.
Right?
Yes, but women are the problem.
Indeed.
Sounds great.
Yeah.
I mean, not to mention, he was like, he's like a couple years old.
Like, he's a decent amount older than me.
So I was kind of like, you should grow up a little bit here.
He's never going to grow up.
Those types never grow up.
Okay.
So, good times.
And then I need to get up for a sec.
Rachel, you had a question here about chores.
Why don't you take it away?
Okay.
So one of my most viral tweets that had like five million impressions or something was just me saying that since I've been with my husband, he has not done any housework.
He just doesn't do housework.
I do the housework.
The kids help me with the housework.
He doesn't do any.
How do you guys feel about men and women if they're cohabitating, they're married, whatever, sharing the housework?
Should both people do housework?
Should it be the woman's responsibility?
What do you guys think?
Let's start with her and we'll go around.
Well, do you work like a job besides?
I mean, then I think it's like if he works a job full-time, then I think it's fair that you're doing a job at home while he's doing a job there.
I mean, that makes sense to me.
Okay.
And if both people work, do you think they should split it then?
Personally, yeah, I do.
I do.
What about you?
I would honestly say pretty similar.
Like, for your situation, it makes a lot of sense.
I think, obviously, if you guys are both working like nine to five jobs, you can't expect for like the woman to just come home and just clean up after you all the time like you're a child.
So I think if you're both working, it should be split.
If you're a stay-at-home mom and like you're just at home with the kids all day, then it just kind of makes sense.
Now, I had a lot of women who were stay-at-home moms and they were like, but I get exhausted after being with the kids all day.
So when he gets home from work, I need a break.
So I'm like, wait, so the man has to work all day and then when he gets home, he also has to work so you can have a break.
So how do you feel about that?
What about if the woman is really tired and the man comes home from working like a 10-hour shift?
I think, I don't know.
I think that's just like being lazy, honestly.
Yeah.
I mean, if you're home all day, like obviously like, okay, like you've been with the kids all day, your husband gets home, like obviously you should spend time with his children and maybe do something like that.
But like you shouldn't be expected to like go mow the lawn right after work.
Right.
What do you think, Carly?
I think it should be proportional to how much you work outside the home.
But I would disagree that if a woman is at home, she should be doing 100% because I mean, you say he's working all day and he comes home and he has to do chores, then that's him working all day.
But if a woman is with the kids all day and then doing chores, she's the one working all day.
So it's like either way, someone's working 24 hours, basically.
I think there needs to be a little bit of wait.
Do you really think that being a stay-at-home mom, so like I have five with five kids, do you think that as a stay-at-home mom with five kids, I'm actually working the whole day?
Depends on how old your kids are.
Okay, like let's say when it was the hardest, when they were zero and three and seven and nine and eleven.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I think you were working all day.
I personally.
If you're managing your household.
I was going to say when I come home from work, I am doing like nothing.
It's nothing.
But if I was to come home from work and then I have to take care of children, I mean like that to me is just more work.
Like my mom was a stay-at-home mom and I was on her house all day.
Like she was definitely working for me all day.
Did you have siblings?
Much older.
Not like.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, because see, to me, that's the difference.
When you just have one or two, they are all on top of you constantly.
By the time you got four or five, you have your own little ecosystem and the kids are all kind of like helping each other and taking care of things and the older ones have a lot of responsibilities and can help and things like that.
So if they have good examples, though.
Like if you have to, you have to teach them that system.
But we're talking over the course of 20-something years.
You optimize.
You optimize the system.
I think you just, it just kind of happens if you have a big family, which that's why I often tell people if we were having bigger families, I think women would actually have a much easier time if all the other women weren't at work.
Because what was it for me?
Yeah, is like my mom worked, my sister worked, my friends were, everybody worked.
I was the only stay-at-home mom, so I didn't have help.
Whereas if it was 100 years ago, all of us are staying at home.
All of us have our kids.
Your cousins come over, your sister comes over, your church group gets together, and there's like more help.
So much more fun to eat.
Yeah, it would be so much more fun.
Yeah.
Okay, what do you think about men and women splitting housework?
So I have an interesting take.
So my dad is top provider, like, like, and my mom has a part-time job that she does, like, just for her own little slush fun.
But he also, she cooks, and then he'll usually do the dishes.
He kind of likes doing it, I guess.
It's for him, he's, that's just like his personality.
Like, he was, I guess, when he was a kid, telling his mom not to fold his laundry because he wanted to fold it a certain type of way.
And so, so, so, I come from a family where it wasn't uncommon for men to see to do the housework, but it wasn't from a place of like my mom is domineering or my dad is being submissive or feminine.
And it was, it was like, he seems to be preferred.
He's a very hard worker, and so it's almost like I think he can be a workaholic, and it's like, hey, you have to like stop.
Yeah.
And that's, it's hard for him to rest.
But I think, you know, so that when I look at it, I'm, I think that, you know, it is tiring when you're at a job all day.
So I think there, there, there is a give and take.
I think also, but it's tiring if you're managing a household.
I, I, I don't think that some of the more masculine jobs, like taking out the trash, yard work, that kind of thing, I would expect him to do.
Also, stuff like dealing with, if there's a leak, that's what I need him to do, you know what I mean?
Or but like laundry dishes, mopping, vacuum.
Yeah, I would be, I'm happy to take on that responsibility.
And then I think if we're both working, then I think then that's when you start, all right, you have two incomes, so now we have to find a, we have to pay for, my, we have to pay for like help.
My, my, my best friend, she always says, she's like, I am super excited to help my assistant manage my household.
That's what she always says.
Lord have mercy.
Can't relate.
Okay, what do you think, Leonardo?
I'm too hot for housework.
So okay.
That's below me.
What do you think, Riley?
Women should handle all the housework.
I think that if a man has to go out and work and provide and give all of his energy to his job, he should at least be able to come home to a happy wife with dinner on the table, not like the house being organized.
I feel like it's very simple things to ask.
I honestly can't believe Andrew Tate hasn't married you already.
It's a mystery.
He's about to hit you all.
He's missing.
God, no.
What do you think?
I think the complete opposite.
I think, well, because for me, I want to work when I'm older.
Yeah, I want to work when I'm older.
And then obviously I want my husband to work or whoever.
But I do believe in split, like chores.
But with me, when it comes to dishes or anything, I was raised.
If you like, if your plate's dirty, you have to wash your own dish.
Okay, what if your husband cooks the food?
Say he likes cooking.
Then I'll be happy.
Sorry.
But then I'll be happy to wash the dishes.
I'm grateful.
Since you said you want to work, do you also want to be a mom?
I've thought about it.
I'm 18.
I'm young.
So, but when I do think about kids, maybe, like, maybe like later down the line.
I don't know what age.
Just, I don't know.
If you had kids, would you still want to be at work all day?
No.
Or I would, I would eventually want to go back to it.
Like when they were older or something.
Okay.
That's because that's what my mom's doing because I have two twin siblings.
And, well, she had to quit her job because of like personal reasons between her boss.
But she wants to get a job now that my siblings are growing older.
Okay.
Because she feels like she's just at home all day and it's just like, like they're old enough to do their own things now.
Okay.
Well, what about you, Reika?
The question was, do you think that we should like both do equal chores?
Yeah, like if you're if you're either living with your boyfriend, you're married, are you guys going to split the housework?
Do you think that's woman's work?
What do you think?
Yeah, I mean, it depends.
If he's like working all day, I'm happy to stay home and do the chores if I'm not working.
But if I am working, I think we should split it evenly.
I feel like that's the most logical response.
Yeah, I think I would agree with that.
Okay, so for all of you who said if we're both working, we should split the chores.
So we should split the housework.
Does that mean, because this is how I see it playing out in the real world, that means he has to take care of the plumbing leak.
He has to unclog the toilet if you can't do it yourself with the plunger.
He's got to like fix stuff, mow the lawn, do the trimming, take out the trash, take the car to get the oil changed, all that kind of stuff, and split the chores.
Do you feel like it would be what would be the chores?
Because like in that case, things that people usually consider like housework that like a 1950s housewife would do.
So like dishes, laundry, mopping, sweeping, dusting, organizing.
I mean, I'm sure you could find an even split with that.
Like maybe if he does that, like the car work and the piping and whatever, then you could do the dishes and the kitchen work and then clean the rest of the house would be, I don't know, there would be a way to make it proportionate.
So but then don't you get into this thing where we're keeping track and we've got like a sheet and we have to tally it and then the woman, because this is what I think.
Yes, and that relationship is going to be great.
Right, exactly.
That's what I always see is like the woman will be like, well, but I did the laundry on Saturday and then when you didn't do the laundry on Tuesday, I had to do it.
Now I'm upset with you and he's like, but I had to mow the lawn and you don't mow the lawn.
And then you get into this like points keeping squirt.
Well, this is all talking, you know, idealistically and none of it's real practical.
I mean, anybody who's ever been with a man realizes that you tend to see things messy before he does.
You tend to be bothered by things not being organized or clean way before he does, unless you're dating somebody who's really got it.
Like the type A dad.
Like I have kind of a type A dad who likes to do that.
But in general, yeah, I feel like.
I feel like in a healthy relationship, though, like obviously that could be an issue.
But like with my parents, for example, like my dad would like offer to wash the dishes or offer to mow the lawn because he wanted to take something off my mother's back.
And it was because he loved her.
So it's like, if you love each other and care about each other in a relationship, I feel like you'll want to take on certain chores for them or want to certain things for them.
Yeah, I think whatever you should work out, whatever split doesn't make one partner feel especially burdened.
And like if you feel like your children are helping to take care of each other in a sense and you don't feel especially burdened by the housework, then that sounds healthy.
But there might be some women who maybe the child has a disorder or something is different that she's going to feel especially burdened and she's not going to be happy.
She's going to be resentful if the man isn't, you know, doing laundry once a week.
Guys, guys, why aren't we all just hiring Mexicans?
We have enough of them.
I mean, they could do the fix the leak and clean the house.
I mean, versatile.
Well, here's something interesting.
When they do surveys among divorced couples and the woman initiates the divorce, one of the top reasons she always gives is she feels like, I feel like, right?
They never say I think.
They say, I feel like he didn't do enough for me, right?
It's like the number one thing.
And I think that we give women like a totally like overblown expectation that men are supposed to like serve us or be doing.
He wasn't emotionally taking care of me.
Usually means like I wanted him to anticipate that I want him to do a bunch of shit that he would never think about that I would want him to do and stuff like that.
So if we see that women are just generally always dissatisfied, they don't think their partner as a man partner.
I don't do the partnership thing.
But they always say, my partner isn't supporting me.
He's not giving me enough.
He's not doing enough.
You know what that usually means?
He's not good in bed.
That's why she's upset.
Well, I've a question.
I'm telling you.
I'm sorry.
Just do your woman right and she'll clean the dishes, dude.
I mean, that's kind of how it works in the Wilson house.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm hearing a lot of like, you know, women initiate divorces.
I'm just curious, because you've gotten divorced, did you initiate your divorces?
Nope, neither one.
No, I got abandoned twice.
Two major L's for me.
Too big.
So, I mean, it sounds like you would super hard.
You have to agree that sometimes men can be the problem, whether they initiate the divorce or not.
Well, we view.
All people can be problems.
Yeah, so why do you assume that in all these cases it's women saying, well, I feel this way and she's secretly in the wrong.
Because we choose them.
I did not have to make babies with either of those guys.
I did not have to marry my ex-husband.
I chose them.
And then when I got what I ordered, it didn't turn out to be what I thought it was.
And I'm not saying that I shouldn't have to say this, but I do.
I'm not saying abuse is ever okay.
But what I am saying is that women think that we're going to be the gatekeepers of sex.
We're going to be the choosers.
We're going to pick the guys.
And then we have ridiculous expectations.
We think that it's going to be Disney princess like Grid One Motorsports was saying.
At least a lot of women do.
They have expectations that don't match reality.
They want the man to provide.
They want the man to lead.
They want the man to be.
But I'm interested actually.
That's what everyone wants to do.
But then when he does that, they're like, oh, he's controlling.
He's abusing.
I am interested.
I am interested to know what you think.
Because biblically, the man is called, has the higher calling.
The man is called to emulate Christ.
The woman is called to emulate the church.
This is not an argument for women to just, I mean, oh, whatever.
But I'm interested to know what you think about that because it's harder to be like Christ than it is to be like the church.
And Christ gave his life for the church.
He loved her, gave his life for her.
And while the church is supposed to submit, just like the wife submits to the husband, I do think that is the harder role.
And so more responsibility, it shouldn't necessarily be tit for tat.
I think the male actually has the higher calling and the more responsibility.
I agree with that, but where I went wrong when I was young was I had a very normy, I was Christian, but I was like a cultural Protestant Christian.
I thought, like if you'd asked me at the time, I was serious about it.
But I also had this like, we were talking about the libertarian American idea.
And when I was young, I had this, I bought into the stupid shit that a lot of us buy into, like, oh, we don't need a piece of paper.
You know, we're going to get married eventually.
I'm sure it will happen.
We've talked about it.
So it's fine that we're living together now.
Like, I made all these little concessions.
I made all these little excuses for things I thought were fine.
And it was like, well, I'm a really capable person and I can do it myself.
I just had like the whole wrong view of the world and relationships and how that works.
Part of that is had a Marxist feminist mother who was deeply indoctrinated.
Whoa.
Yeah.
And she would, you know, kind of share this stuff with me and divorce my dad, kicked him out of the house.
And so it was like, comparatively, I thought I was pretty conservative.
But I was basically just like a normie girl who was like, I'll just live with my boyfriend because it's practical and we'll split the bills.
And then when that didn't work out, I was like devastated.
And now, of course, 43-year-old me would look back and be like, oh, honey, you were so silly, thinking like, oh, we're just going to live together and that'll work out.
I think most women do that.
I think they think it's fine.
I'm sorry.
Did you convert after you married your husband now?
Yeah.
We both converted at the same time, like three and a half years ago, to Orthodoxy.
We went from being like normie non-denominational Protestants to being like more conservative Protestants and then realizing there's a whole batch of problems that come with that and then looking for answers in church history, do a little digging on the history of the church and you find the Orthodox church and there's kind of no turning back after that, at least for us.
So I'm just saying, like, I think this whole modern idea of we're going to have an egalitarian relationship where I work and he works and we're going to raise the kids together and we're going to be partners and we're going to share the chores.
It doesn't really work very well for most people in reality.
And we can see that in the extremely low rates of marriage and the really high rates of divorce and just the general dissatisfaction.
This whole podcast exists because people can't figure out what the hell is going on with male-female relationships.
Well, what if both parties do work then?
Because, I mean, a lot of people, both parties have to work with our economy at this point.
That's true, but the reason they have to work is because women joined the workforce in huge numbers in the 70s and wages for men have been stagnant ever since then, have not kept up with inflation.
So yeah, now we're in a position where a lot of moms have to work.
Well, they made the women have to join the workforce because the economy was already doing what it was doing.
And the whole point, like one of the big purposes.
No women want to join the workforce.
That's just the education.
Oh, it's so stupid.
My oldest daughter, when she started working, she like graduated high school and started working.
She called me and she's like, Mom, why do we do this?
Why do we pretend that working a job is awesome and that we love it?
This is stupid and I hate it.
And I was like, unless you have a real purpose, there are, listen, there's a small percentage of women who have a real purpose.
They have real talent that should not be wasted.
I 100% agree with that.
And that's okay.
But it's the same way that we push everybody into college and not everybody belongs in college.
If you have a real intellect, you have a real passion for something you're studying, go for it.
Yeah.
I feel like that didn't really answer my question because I don't really mind, like, I mean, if I could control it, then I guess figuring out what you're doing.
Well, you can.
Here's my answer to that.
Because people ask me this.
They're like, well, but I have to work.
And I'm like, you don't.
You would just have to make a lot of choices you don't want to make.
You'd have to make a lot of compromises you don't want to.
You might have to move to a cheap area in the rural Midwest where you can afford to stay home.
You might have to work part-time remotely from home so that you can prioritize the kids.
There are ways to do it.
You might have to have a cash.
We might have to have a financial revolution and overthrow these.
I was going to say, it sounds like a potential collapse will have to happen because if women exit the workforce en masse, then you're just going to run into a bunch of different problems.
If everyone moves to the Midwest en masse, property costs, cost of living is just going to go away.
There's a difference between, if you're asking me for my prescription, there's a difference between what I would prescribe for an individual person right now dealing with the system we're in versus what I would prescribe for the system long term.
Long term, I think feminism will be looked back upon as like this awful disaster that we tried and it failed and it was horrible and we're going to not be ruled by feminist gargoyles for a while.
We are, but the problem with it is that it's literally not sustainable.
South Korea, the most westernized Asian country, has a birth rate of 0.78.
Japan and Canada are now euthanizing the elderly because there's more elderly people in diapers than there are babies in diapers.
The supply chain problems that we've been dealing with since the cough-cough stuff has never gone away because we actually can't import enough illegal immigrants to keep up with the supply and demand of what we need in the country.
So before you get further into this, do you want to ask everyone who identifies as a feminist?
Oh, yeah, let's go around the table.
Who's a feminist?
You are?
I identify as a feminist.
And in my beliefs, that feminism to me is just equality.
I believe in equality for men and women.
Okay.
How do we have equality if the men have to enforce women's rights on their behalf?
If the men have to allow us, if the men go, we bestow upon you and gift you this equality.
Is that equal?
Wait, let everybody answer first.
Okay.
Sorry, Brian.
I can't run your show.
I'm not.
I can't be Brian.
Only one person can be Brian.
I guess one by one.
I would say based off the definition of it.
Okay, I honestly don't know the textbook definition, so don't like quote me on anything.
But I think the way that it is now, and based off a lot of feminists that I've met, I would say no, just because I don't agree with what a lot of they agree with.
But I think baseline, I think everyone believes in equality as a general thing.
I don't think that's a crazy thing to want.
But I wouldn't consider myself feminist.
Yes.
I am a first wave feminist.
I believe that women should have the right to vote.
Oh, good.
We can get into that.
Those principles that came with that.
And then the second wave in the 70s, I think that has been more detrimental.
Okay.
What do you think?
My name is Leonardo, and I'm recovering from feminism.
It's been four years, seven months, and 32 days since I've taken a drink of equality.
Okay, what about Riley?
I am not a feminist.
Okay.
I'm shocked.
I would consider myself not, just because I agree and disagree with a couple of things, but I don't have much knowledge on that topic.
Okay.
Yeah, I think what you said was perfect.
I feel that exact way.
I like to call myself a feminist, but a lot of the things that feminists believe, I mean, again, there are so many different people call themselves feminists.
There's not really a one thing where someone says, I'm a feminist, and they all agree.
Okay, that's true.
So what if I defined it this way?
What if my definition was anything that is oppositional to patriarchy?
And patriarchy just means rule by the father.
It means the father's the head of the household, men run the government, men run the church.
Patriarchy, right?
What would you, would you change, would anyone change their answer if I defined it that way?
Is anybody here like against patriarchy, for patriarchy?
Well, it sounds like patriarchy led us into this because if men are bestowing rights upon women, men at any time could take it back.
Men are, we live under a natural patriarchy, and yet this is the situation we're in that, according to you, you know, we're not at replacement birth rates.
It sounds like men did not do a very good job leading us into a beneficial situation.
It sounds like they allowed a lot of pretty shitty things to happen.
Right.
I don't know if giving them the power is really such a good idea then.
Well, now let's get into this.
So do you think that when I say patriarchy, that means all men have all the same amount of power, that Brian has the same amount of power as like Donald Trump?
Or is there hierarchy within the male sphere of patriarchy where there are certain people who have certain men who have more power than others?
Well, yeah, I think there's always going to be a hierarchy of power.
Okay.
So if you think there's always going to be a hierarchy of power, how are you a Marxist?
I'm not really like a prescriptive Marxist, but I am a Marxist.
I mean, I think a lot of people don't really know what Marxism is.
They've never actually read Marx.
I'm a Marxist in the sense that I'm like a historical materialist.
And like when I think about things philosophically, I tend to think about them dialectically.
But like in terms of what I think the world should look like, I wouldn't really say I'm like Hegelianly.
I don't.
Exactly.
I don't want like a.
No, I'm not a Hegelian.
But if you're doing historical materialism and dialectics, then you would be Hegelian, like by definition.
Marx and Hegel did not have the same definition of like what the dialectic is necessarily.
I think there's some.
We don't really need to get into a lot of people.
I don't know.
There might be a little much.
There's a little points, but I think that I don't necessarily think I want to live in a classless, stateless, moneyless society.
So I wouldn't say I'm like a prescription.
But you would say you think patriarchy is not valid.
You think there should be like women in positions of leadership or.
Well, I mean, I'm saying that from your perspective, it sounds like patriarchy has failed.
Patriarchy failed us.
Men have failed to utilize their power effectively and bring us into a birth rates are falling.
Terrible things are happening.
Women are running amok, being degenerates.
It sounds like men have failed.
So maybe their time has come to get out of power.
I don't know.
Well, I think that they will take power back.
I think it's inevitable.
They kind of have to, because this whole thing is kind of like a short-term illusion to me.
Like, women don't have actual natural rights in the way that we define them in the West.
It's all just enabled by men.
Now, we talked a little bit about which men and why.
It was generally like the really wealthy elites who wanted, why did they want this, right?
Why did they want women's liberation?
They wanted it because they were the same folks who went to the Jekyll Island Club and drafted the Federal Reserve legislation.
They were the same people who had these giant factories and needed tons of cheap labor and couldn't import enough Chinese and poor European immigrants at the time to fill the factories.
So it would be really nice if you could get a bunch of women in there and some good cheap labor.
And it also gave them the opportunity to institute the public education system, which is just an indoctrination camp for them to, for the federal government to be able to.
That's why everybody's got to read Anne Frank's diary in third grade.
Exactly.
So you're just saying the wrong men have been in power.
The patriarchy has enabled the wrong men to come into power and lead us to state.
I think psychopaths kind of almost always rise to the table.
History is basically just a story of a bunch of different psychopathic criminal gangs vying for power.
And right now the criminal gang that's been in power wants women's liberation because it's a means to their ends.
So then I would say I don't see how I think that because patriarchy is inevitable, that's why feminism is necessary.
There needs to be like a force of women pushing back in whatever way they can against men's inevitable greater force.
And I think that if you have women that aren't pushing back, then men are going to lead us into a powerful.
I mean, but how are they pushing back by like whining, like extra loud whining?
Well, I mean, extra crying.
But see, I feel like that's anti-Christian.
It's not.
Because obviously, Jesus highly valuable.
I mean, the first person he appears to after the resurrection was a woman.
And the fact that the gospels place such a high value on women for that day and age is, I mean, it was groundbreaking.
It was nothing.
So there is a high value for women within Christianity.
Is there such a thing as Christian feminism?
Can you be a Christian feminist?
I think you can be.
I think Christianity is in and of itself pro-woman.
Okay, but that's different than it being oppositional to patriarchy.
I don't think I can align Christianity with ideology, another ideology.
I don't think that I think that Christianity is above and beyond it.
Right, but you know what Paul said about women being in the church, right?
Paul talks about a woman should not instruct men.
He doesn't say that women should not instruct, like, there is leverage for a woman counseling a man.
And in the Bible, it's very clear that, like, a woman is only under the authority of her husband.
Not all husbands, not all men.
Right?
And the church.
And I think there's, and, and here's another thing.
What's interesting is that the Bible, Acts and Luke, and they, or in all of his epistles, Paul frequently says, you know, like, Priscilla, Lydia, he's noting, he, he actually went out, like, for Lydia, he went out, she was by the river, she was, she was a seller of purple cloth.
So he went out and they had, they were having a discussion, an intellectual discussion, and she became a huge supporter of his ministry.
But were women in any place in the Bible, were they rulers of men?
Deborah, priests, Deborah.
No, she was, that's what she said.
She was a judge and a prophetess.
Where in the church?
Yeah.
Nick.
Sorry.
Tanya.
Okay, around the second.
No female priests, and Christianity is a patriarchy.
Very end of story.
We literally have patriarchs, just saying, but go ahead.
Just look up Deborah.
She was not a priest.
She didn't have authority.
She's a judge.
He gave her authority.
She literally told her that she was subject to the king.
There was no king in the time of judges.
You have your church history wrong.
You have your church history wrong.
The judges was the period before.
The first king was Saul.
And the judge of period was before Saul.
So that's actually incorrect.
Deborah told the priests to do.
There were priests that she told Deborah.
Yes, there were in the line of Levi, and they went to war.
She told Barak to go and fight.
And he said, I need you by my side.
And she said, just so you know, people are going to laugh at you because you have a woman with you leading, like going out, leading before.
And he said, I know, and I'll do it.
So you think that Christian women can rule men?
You think that Christian women should be in the world?
How is that inferred from an example of that?
But what's your point?
Because you do a lot of prattling, but you don't ever get around to the damn thing.
As do you, girl, takes one to know one.
But here's the thing.
You, so, so, so, yes, I think there is, there are, you asked if there was a biblical example of a woman.
This is an example.
This is an example of a bible.
I'm asking if you want to be a man.
If a woman should lead a man, if there's an example in the Bible, I said there is.
I referenced Deborah.
And so, do I think women can lead churches?
I actually, I do think, I think that there is room for it.
My God, God.
That's total heresy.
Women cannot be priests.
They cannot be pastors.
They can't be bishops.
They can't be patriarchs.
But is that religion or is that doctrine?
Like, is that scripture?
That's what Christ established.
Christ came to establish his church, not leave you a book that is open to your interpretation where you can go, actually, I can be a lady preacher.
I just finished my OnlyFans and I'm saved now.
So I'm going to start the church of me.
And I'm going to be the priest.
Just the fact that you referred to the Bible, which is the inspired word of God, as a book that is not a book.
That is like, I think that's heretical.
But is it a book?
Is it a book?
Yes.
Is it inspired by God?
Yes.
Absolutely.
But can you?
Is it inerrant?
Is it inerrant?
It is, but can you interpret it individually on your own?
Or you need the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
Oh, and if you think the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is not aware of the people.
So this is, for everybody who's watching at home and doesn't understand what's happening right now, we are in the middle of the schism.
I was going to say it's happening again.
This is the Orthodox versus the Protestants.
The Protestants believe in sola scriptura, only the Bible, and the Orthodox believe in the apostolic succession that what's been handed down from the time of Jesus to the apostles.
And how you know that they're wrong?
How you know they're wrong is they have gay flags hanging off their churches and they have lady preachers and women's Bible studies.
Okay, this is from the woman who thought, okay, just saying, she thought that judges came during the time of kings.
So she obviously doesn't know her church history that well.
But there were kings in the world at the time of judges in the Old Testament.
Yes, there were male leaders.
Who was the first king of Israel?
So, do you guys use dating apps or what's happening?
Don't think that me and Brian.
Everyone's buying us.
If you come back to the religious thing, I mean, so I don't like dating apps because I've never been on a dating app.
I'm Christian in my life.
Christian Mingle.
Well, I think the problem in Christian Mingle is the Protestants are going to go to war with the Orthodox.
No, there's nothing wrong with the Orthodox.
just saying I think that you need to have room for leverage you need to have room for and I'm not saying leverage as in like I want to interpret it as I want to interpret it I'm I'm just saying that I think it's like Deborah obviously was a leader and she was a woman.
So the fact that that example is in the Bible, which is the inspired word of God, means that obviously there is room for female leadership within the church.
Now, what that looks like, whether the okay, just no, absolutely not, never.
You should cover your head and you should be quiet and you should not ever have a role of leadership.
Now, if you have a limited situation where like maybe you need this woman to go over here and minister to some children because there isn't a deacon or something and it's a certain situation, maybe.
But as a general rule, absolutely not.
Women are not to lead or teach in the church.
It's very clear all throughout scripture.
We have like 4,000 years of history.
1 Timothy 2, 12.
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to use her authority over the man, but to be in silence.
Brixon, get your big jumper back in your chair.
Yeah, Brixon, Brian with an X.
We just can't.
There's Miriam.
I mean, there's Esther.
So there are, there are, there are examples of women who are in leader, but I just don't know how you, I'm not saying Deborah was a priest.
Right.
Stop saying that.
I'm saying that because I'm not saying.
What's your point?
I'm saying that obviously there's a lot of people.
The lady did something important.
Shut up and let me speak.
Obviously, I'm saying that there's a lot of people who are.
I would just like to point out that she showed everybody her butt so they know what they're getting on OnlyFans.
Okay, that was very smooth.
I gotta say, I gotta say, that was slick.
I was trying to figure out how to show my butt without making it obvious, and I wish I thought of that.
Because everybody on the internet wants to see my butt.
You know what?
I would like to apologize because that was rude.
And the Holy Spirit is convicting me.
The Holy Spirit is convicting me.
So I apologize.
What is that?
Apology accepted, but you're still wrong.
I apologize for being rude.
You're back now.
You see what happens when a man leaves the table?
Mayhan.
Mayhan.
I got a couple things here.
First off, put your swords away for a second here, okay?
I do have to make one thing.
Apparently, I was gone while you said this, Leonardo.
You said something about Mexicans disavow.
He doesn't know what it was, but just.
I don't know.
I just saw the chat was like, whoa, she's racist.
The views expressed by the panelists and by the panelists.
I mean, if anybody took five minutes to look at my Twitter, you would know I was racist.
And this wouldn't be surprising to anybody.
You're a comedian, though.
You're joking.
Anyway, she's joking, guys.
Everything I say is a joke.
Don't take any of it.
Don't take it because she's a community.
What is wrong with you guys?
She is literally a literal.
You literally listen to a woman on the internet.
Like, come on.
Let's not go too far now.
But disavow.
I disavow.
What did I say?
I said we should give them jobs.
I didn't say we should deport them all.
You don't have to repeat it.
Because that plan has been shunned.
It should be number one.
But because we're not going to do that, let's let them work.
What's the problem?
What's the problem?
Wait, are you from the East Coast, right?
I'm from New York.
I'm from the Bronx.
I was born and raised in New York.
Well, no, I was raised.
I was born in Montenegro.
Forget about it.
Nice.
You ever been to what's it called?
White Plains?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah?
Oh, yeah.
I got some family in White Plains.
You got some family in White Plains.
Maybe your family knows my family.
I don't know.
Maybe we might be related.
We might know each other somewhere.
In some sort of way.
Some kind of way.
There you go.
Okay, all right.
Yeah, guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
Drop us a follow, drop us a prime sub if you have one.
Nick, could you zoom in a little bit on this?
Make it a little bit different.
Here's the thing is what's happening.
I think every girl's blood sugar at the table is dropping at the moment.
You got some food back there.
And so we've got hang.
You have Reese's peanut butter cups, which every girl in here is not going to eat in front of another girl because we don't want to be accused of being fat.
I got accused of being fat by the super chatters.
She's been eating a lot.
I just want to point out.
You've ate.
She can afford to be a child.
Were those your potato juice?
She's got titties and a little waist.
Do you understand?
No, I'm not fan shaming.
No fat shaming.
I'm just saying, look, we got chocolate back there.
We got chips.
We got her chips.
We got Reese's pieces.
We got applesauce.
This is why you're single.
Applesauce.
Anybody need applesauce?
No.
You need to have a steak back there.
That's how you get a woman.
That's how you get a woman.
You lure her in with a steak, and then she doesn't know what's happening.
Let me read a couple chats.
Our high-value men on dating apps, they seem like a trap to get men to spend hundreds of dollars.
Our high-value men on dating apps.
Well, I don't recommend being on a dating app.
I don't necessarily think it means you're high-value or not if you are on one, but I've met some high-value men on a dating app.
Dating apps aren't made for men.
You can find good people on there, but it's like, honestly, it's a waste of time and it's pretty toxic.
Dating dating is a matter of time.
Get off the dating apps.
Get off the dating apps.
Dating apps aren't made for men.
If you're a girl scrolling on Tinder, like, well, is it a W for girls?
It's not.
Not anymore.
Because if you're a girl and you're scrolling on Tinder, you're not going to see a guy that's under, you know, a certain height.
I'll tell you why it's a W. I'll tell you why it's a W for women.
Because if men are seeking sex and women are seeking attention and validation, at no other point in human history have mid-average women been so fucking validated as 20, like, since dating.
All right, that's enough of this personal attack.
It's true.
It's fucking true.
Like, if y'all want attention and validation, social media, Instagram, dating apps.
No, it's so true.
These apps are made for women.
If you're a girl scrolling on Tinder, you're not going to see a guy that's under a certain height.
You know, but guys are not plus size girls.
You know what's interesting about you, Riley?
What?
You read as if you're reading, or you speak as if you're reading from a teleprompter.
What does that even mean?
Like, it's kind of like you have a script in your head.
Okay, no, she's got an earpiece and she's being fed by Andrew Tate.
Oh my gosh.
No, I'm just, I'm trying to prove a ton of money.
Andrew Tate, if you're listening, twice.
And we'll let you die.
I'm trying to prove a point that dating apps are not made for men.
If you're a girl scrolling on Tinder, you're not going to see a guy under a certain height.
But if you're a guy, you're going to see a ton of plus-size girls.
Wait, guys, quiet back there, please.
Go ahead.
But if you're a guy, you're going to see a ton of plus-size girls.
A ton of fatty.
I get height preferences.
You know, like 60% of women say that they want a guy that's over six feet.
But, you know, 78% of men also want a girl who isn't obese.
But I went on a dinner date with a guy.
Why aren't there weight preferences on dating apps?
That's so true.
Why aren't there weight preferences on dating apples?
You're so good.
I did some charity work also.
Because half of the women that use dating apps know that they would not.
You would be a great politician.
I don't know why.
Thank you.
Until Hawaii fans got late.
Okay.
But this is all that I'm saying.
Is that half of the women that use dating apps know that if they put their actual weight in there, they wouldn't get any dates.
And that's all that I have to say.
So dating apps are not made for men, and no high-value men probably are not on there because they don't.
Well put.
Well, well put.
All right, let's get into some.
I'm going to get, oh, you know what?
Let's get into some of the show notes here.
We have, let's do Celeste.
Haven't heard from Celeste in a while.
All right, you said you believe in equal rights for women.
Yes.
Okay, cool.
The reality of dating as a sex worker, especially if you're dating a non-sex worker, have you had that experience?
Wow, that split is fucked up.
I've dated majority of the men I've dated have not been sex workers.
Like I've never really honestly dated another guy that does OnlyFans or anything.
Huh?
It's a problem?
Is it a problem for them?
No, because going into it, they know what I do.
So it's like not like a surprise to them.
But also I'm very respectful.
Like I'm like, I don't force anyone into making content with me.
It's just my thing.
It's my gig.
You know, if you want to do with me, you can.
But like, you know, so it's never like really an issue because I don't, you know, like no one's forced in anything.
But well, has it become a problem like down the road in your relationships?
I would say yes and no.
Yes, because financially, a lot of the guys don't like how much I make compared to them.
Why would they not like it?
How much do you make?
Because it can be emasculating.
How much do I make?
That's kind of a personal question.
Well, you tell us.
It's a very personal question, but I make a very good amount of money.
$6.
It's not as personal as her butthole, though.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
You can see that online.
Is it sick?
Like, sick?
For $5 a month.
Yes, sir.
And she'll show you her tattoos for $10.
Can you give us a higher or lower?
I think it is $5 a month.
Yeah.
$100K a year.
Higher.
A million a year.
Okay, that's pretty cool.
I'm not going to exclude what I make, but I make, I'm blessed.
I'll say that.
I'm very blessed.
But also, I've been, I've worked a long time on what I do and stuff.
And I didn't recently start making very, very good money until like two years.
And I've been doing it for like four.
You said that you disagree greatly that people shouldn't.
Wait.
Wait, so that's a double negative.
You disagree greatly that people shouldn't be looked down upon for.
Wait, so then you do think people should be looked down upon for doing sex work.
Wait, I disagree.
Wait, hold on.
Help me chat.
Help me parse this.
Hold on.
Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
Let me help me parse this.
She said, I disagree greatly that people shouldn't be looked down upon for doing sex work.
So people should be looked down upon.
That's what I'm saying.
But you disagree greatly that I'm just like giving it probably a typo, but people should be looked down upon for doing sex work.
They shouldn't, is what I'm saying.
But I meant to say that they shouldn't.
There's a moment.
There's a moment.
There's a moment of humiliation you just did.
You knew what she meant.
See?
You want an example?
I brought it up.
There it goes.
Toxic massage.
You're just a horrible person.
Terrible person.
And also saying that, I can completely understand from people who don't do it.
I can understand.
You got to speak straight into the mic.
I can understand the judgment and stuff, and it's a very taboo thing still.
Would you date somebody who works at McDonald's?
Yes.
You would.
I would.
Honestly, I would if they had goals in their life and stuff.
And this is.
They don't have goals.
Okay, let's assume they don't.
If they don't have goals in their life, then probably not.
Because that's a thing that I expect my partner to have goals in the future.
Well, let me ask you just like I do.
It's more than just OnlyFans.
Is it looking down on a girl to refuse to date her because she does OnlyFans?
I think that's preference.
Okay, so I mean, I don't think you should look down on them, but I think if you don't want to date someone because they do OnlyFans, I think that's valid.
Let me ask you a question.
What if somebody has an OnlyFans, but they're, I don't know if I want to throw y'all under the bus on this.
Do it.
But she's dating a high school.
What if you're like, in furtherance of making money, they're lying to their customer base to fleece and siphon more money from them.
Would that be a justified reason for like a normie to look down on a sex worker?
Because they're essentially committing a fraud on their audience.
Not really quite.
Like, are you saying like if they said that they weren't with someone and then they were?
For example, a lot of girls offer what they call a girlfriend experience.
Yeah.
But.
GFE.
I know.
I know.
Right.
But I don't know if I want to like.
He's talking about you.
All right.
Let's hear it.
Come on, get out with it.
But okay, I think the men who are paying for it know that it's not real, though.
It's the feeling that they're looking for real.
I don't know.
Okay, here, I won't say what I was originally going to say, but I will say, like, some girls will not make it clear that they're offering the, like, it's just a girlfriend experience, but the dude's never going to fuck them.
The girls will actually lead the guys on into thinking that the girl has some desire for the man when it couldn't be anything further from the truth.
They, in all probability, actually have a boyfriend, which they keep private from their OnlyFans customers and clients because that would hurt their bottom line.
And they are basically will fleece their customers under the guise of like, oh, I want to have a relationship with you, but that will never ever happen.
Would that be pretext and justification for a man to look down on a sex worker and be like, you're preying on these men who are desirous of having a relationship with you, but you're really just using them for their money?
I mean.
Or do you think that's justified behavior from sex workers?
Listen, dude, she already says she's dyslexic.
Why you got to ask her?
No, no, no, right.
That's a complex question.
Could you put it to the base?
Think of it and give it simple.
I don't know.
There's like so many.
I told you you were losing the money.
Basically, I think he's trying to say, like, there tends to be a lot of manipulation and deception involved in fleecing dudes as a sex worker.
So like strippers are notorious for, hey, baby, there was that South Park episode with Raisins, the Raisins girls.
Hey, welcome to Raisins.
Like you pretend like you really care and you like you're helping, right?
I'm just helping you.
Okay, if men are dumb enough to fall for that though, I don't think the patriarchy is going to work genuinely.
Wow, we got to be careful with that.
Got to be careful with that.
What do you think about these fuckboy player guys who will tell girls about their romantic interest in them in furtherance of fucking them and never talking to them again?
Is that if the woman's just dumb enough Enough to fall for the fuckboy who's saying, babe, I love you.
I want to be with you.
And then he fucks her and never talks to her again.
Is that her being a dumbass?
In some cases, yes.
Sure.
But is there some culpability on the guy's part?
But men are paying a woman.
I'm saying if you are paying a woman for attention and you're not smart enough to realize that you are a paying customer for a service, you're not that bright.
A man who is giving a woman affection for free and leading her on in the sense that he wants a relationship, there's no monitor, there's no transaction there.
I think some women are incredibly dumb and let men lead them on for way too long and they need to, you know, play it together.
Some of these guys are very good at paying attention.
But some, it's genuine emotional manipulation.
Men are paying for a service.
When I go to Target and I buy something, I don't think that the cashier is my friend.
Like I realize, well, that's a bad example because you're not really paying the cashier.
But like, I, yeah, you're dumb if you think that you're paying for it.
But don't women do the same thing when some guy's like, oh, baby, I really love you.
And I sure I care about you.
And you're the only girl for me.
We all know they're trying to fuck.
We all know that what men are trying to do is fuck.
So you could say the same thing about women say that to me and be genuine.
And I think that's the problem is that some men are genuine and some aren't.
And it's not always easy to tell who is who.
But I see called when you, like, as soon as the guy, what's that thing called?
When they're talking about the baby, ejaculated in the backyard.
Yes, yes.
Thank you.
Okay.
What about it?
So maybe the guy is serious or being honest, and then that happens and then he loses interest.
Well, from the guy's perspective, a guy might look and go, well, okay, look, the average woman wants me to take her on a date.
She wants me to pay for the meal.
She wants me to come pick her up.
It can't be the waffle house.
It has to be somewhere really nice.
We've all seen these videos of women demanding like a five-star restaurant for the first date, that sort of thing.
So they're thinking, okay, the average woman wants me to pay to get her time and attention.
And like the OnlyFans girl, the stripper, only wants 20 bucks.
Like, well, then that's fine if you want to opt for that, but you should be smart enough to realize that it's not genuine.
And that you're not going to be able to do that.
Well, I think for a lot of men, they basically look at women and go, okay, you see me as a wallet or an ATM.
I see you as a vagina, right?
And it is transactional.
Now, in the person, but then in that case, we're looking down on the woman for part two.
You said you wouldn't date a guy who worked at McDonald's and had no ambitions.
That's just because, like, I have ambition.
Is it because he's black?
No.
No.
What?
No.
You guys have no sense of humor.
This whole podcast, dude.
So, thank you.
I have this too many questions.
Thank you for that.
Okay.
But, but, but, okay, so here's the deal.
He's joking, by the way.
Yeah, it's a joke.
It's all a joke.
What's wrong with people?
And anyway, so the question that I have, though, because you see, this is where we have a problem.
Women who go on OnlyFans, they make a ton of money, right?
And then all of a sudden they start rating themselves value-wise with men this way.
And you don't realize what's happening is you're literally getting paid for your vagina.
Like, that's what's happening.
Well, I mean, pretty much.
It doesn't really have.
Listen to me.
It doesn't really involve a whole lot of skill.
You don't even have to be that good looking because men actually have a lower standard of looks for what, like, they find more women attractive than women find men attractive.
You could put some makeup on, do some stuff, do some lighting, all that, right?
So there's a kind of inflated sense of what you would actually be matched with.
Because the guy at McDonald's might actually have an equal level of skills.
I mean, I guess, but I'm like, if the guy at McDonald's doesn't at least have something he wants to do past that, like I have other things I want to do past my OnlyFans, then I'm like, I don't know.
Like what?
What do you how are we going to transition from the OnlyFans?
I'm also a tattoo artist.
I'm a photographer, and I'm also, I do videography.
And I also like, I also have a clothing brand.
I make clothing.
I do a ton of other things.
And I have, and I also, like, I'm smart with my money.
I have savings.
So if I wanted to go to school, which I've thought about it recently, but if I want to go to school, I can easily go to school.
You would think that the neck tattoos and the face stuff and the piercings and the OnlyFans might potentially hold you back in life.
I think it depends on what occupation, but also I think as time goes on, people are more accepting and find it like kids nowadays find it relatable and stuff, like tattoos and all that.
So I don't think it's going to be as judged as the old generation does, you know?
But when you're my age, right?
And all the tattoos that are up here start to be down here, you know what I'm saying?
Like gravity kicks.
If I get to your age, yes.
Well, hopefully you'll get to my age.
I'm not hoping anything happens.
Straight in your mic.
Like you want to live into your 40s and 50s, right?
I mean, like, that's a goal.
She has a satanic tattoo on her body.
Well, fair enough.
Fair enough.
Well, I'm just saying.
Oh, yeah.
No, it's funny.
Old Hickory Dicker.
Emirati's girl wears a real Madrid shirt, but probably doesn't know where Madrid is.
Go around and ask everyone to name three countries.
I'm going to go first.
Do you know where Madrid is?
In Spain.
It's in Spain.
Starting with you, name three countries.
Go ahead.
Three countries?
Yeah, quick, go.
All right.
Greece.
Belgium and Germany.
Cool.
United States, Canada, Mexico.
You can't do those.
France.
I don't know.
Other ones.
Other ones.
No, I'm not going to do that.
Quick, two more.
Two more.
No, you can't.
You can't help.
Go ahead.
Well, there's Greenland, Iceland.
Okay.
Ethiopia, Japan, Brazil.
Nigeria, Uruguay, Chile.
Tilt your mic down, please.
Nigeria, Uruguay, Chile.
So easy.
Europe, Africa, Asia.
Italy, Argentina, Peru.
I was going to say.
You got to come up with something else.
Something new.
There's lots of them.
I know, and I can't even think of one because they took all of it.
Oh, forget it.
You can't.
Oh, my God.
Don't cheat.
Okay.
Shut up.
The sisterhood is kicking in.
Next?
France, Spain, Italy.
I think people already said those.
Okay, well, the challenge gets harder.
What about here?
I don't know.
Maldives, India, Sri Lanka.
Those last two, I mean.
I can do Pakistan.
That was a joke.
Rachel?
Ireland, Netherlands.
Let's pick something exotic.
Laos.
There you go.
Celeste, you said that you had a dude that lied about his age completely after sleeping together and also did some pretty weird things.
Yeah.
So how old was he?
Okay, so when I met him, he said he was 25 years old.
Hold on, hold on.
Please pull your jacket up, please.
Just throw it over the shoulder, zip that shit up a little bit.
There we go.
Okay, go ahead.
When I met him, he said he was 25 years old.
And after we went on a couple dates and I like, we ended up sleeping together.
He told me he was 35.
Oh, so he was older.
Yeah, and he did some weird things.
Like, just like, you know, how usually you would like tell people if you're like into like weird things and stuff?
Well, like, he kind of just Like, in the beginning, in the initiation of, like, I guess, uh, sex, he, like, put my armpits up, arms up and smote my armpits.
And that was a very old man.
He was very new and different to me.
And I was just.
Like, he smelled?
He was, like, he was just into that.
Older men like pheromones, dude.
That's fucking disgusting.
It was just very, I didn't know he was into that either.
So it was just very random.
Shit.
Okay.
Yeah.
That sounds like a high T-mail right there.
But HVM.
High value male for sure.
Well, I don't know about that, but high T.
Oh, he had high T?
Yeah.
Well.
You've had a guy.
Hell yeah.
They like.
They want to smell your womanly stuff coming at you.
So wait, would he, like, did you hook up with him multiple times?
What do you got?
You guys have dating somebody else.
I did.
For real.
You guys are like practically gay if he doesn't want to smell you.
Would you, have you had the experience of he would like tell you not to shower?
No, thankfully.
Yes.
Thankfully.
You had that.
Okay.
All right.
Let's see.
You.
He said he was 25, but he was actually 35.
He was actually 35, but he just like, you know, he was actually 35.
He like looked young for his age, but the more I looked at him after he told me, I was like, it's kind of adding up.
I can kind of see it now.
Yeah.
Yeah, even for men, there's a pretty big difference between like 35 and 25.
Yeah, I just.
Huge.
I just, I just thought he, you know, didn't have the best hair or something.
I don't know.
Oh, he's losing.
Yeah.
Okay.
You also said men shouldn't be allowed to tell their girlfriends if they can or can't do OnlyFans.
Same for the opposite side of the coin, of course.
Well, yeah, like if you are going to get into a relationship with a significant other, whether it be your boyfriend or your girlfriend, I don't think you should be allowed to tell them if they can or can't do something other, you know, you can just like break up with them.
I agree.
Yeah.
Kind of like how, like, if there was a robber breaking into the house or something, I don't think my girlfriend should tell me that I should deal with it.
I should use her as a meat shield and she can take care of the home intruder.
I agree with you.
This is a false equivalent.
If she's a strong independent woman, I agree with that.
All the feminists should have to be meant to be.
I don't think either of the people should have to fight the robber.
I'm like, it's choice.
Well, you're both going to die.
That'll work.
That's your choice.
Can I tell my home invasion story?
Sure.
Okay, so we had a home invasion some years back.
Maybe 18.
Is this the one where they stole Andrew's firearms?
Yes.
Okay.
And so it was like 5 a.m., 4 or 5 a.m.
And my dogs were barking like crazy at my window.
And at first I kind of like ignored them and I was like, wait, why are they at my window?
Because they're normally like out back.
And so I was like, shit.
And I woke up Andrew.
I was like, hey, dogs are barking.
Something's going on.
And I could hear something in the basement and so could he.
We're both like trained firearms instructors, but he took a shotgun, went to the top of the basement steps because we could hear that they were downstairs.
We had kids in the back bedroom.
And Andrew had previously like instructed us and we had practiced this.
And everybody out there with kids, you should do this.
Practice what you're going to do if something like this happens so that at four in the morning when you're not even with it, you know what to do.
But I'm, you know, in the back bedroom.
You have to get through me to get to the kids.
You have to get through him to get to me.
Kind of like that whole Christ, man, wife, child thing.
And Andrew went to the top of the steps and pumped a shotgun and yelled out a warning to the people that were in our basement and they fled.
He didn't end up having to, you know, do anything, but he scared them with the pump of the shotgun and his loud masculine voice, and they ran off, and we were all fine.
But all that just to say, like, do you really want to be you want a man who's like, sweetie, sweetie, get the shotgun and go scare away the intruders.
Of course you don't.
I mean, Nick, could you close the door?
Honestly, I wouldn't want to put the love of my life in danger like that either way.
You don't know what's going on, but the whole family's in danger when you're in the middle of the day.
I'm going out the window.
You got all crazy meth heads that are trying to get my family.
They give one of those little kid backpacks.
See, this is one of the problems of feminism.
It has made us forget.
I remember one time I was on a date with this guy.
I was on a date with this guy, and we were walking down the street.
It was in New York City.
Okay, I don't know what you're talking about.
So I was on a date with this guy in my feminist days, and we were walking down the street, and some crazy-looking dude starts coming after us.
And I kind of like leaned into him a little bit, and he was like, he was British.
He goes, Powdered Toastman donated $200.
Just wanted to say this is one of the best panels you've had in a while, Brian.
He has a good panel.
Woman in the center in black is hilarious and sassy.
Rachel is much better than Andrew.
Doesn't talk over everyone.
Take that.
Hey, Powdered Toastman.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate the.
Andrew is amazing.
Don't you defame him.
He's wonderful.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
You want to finish with this?
Yeah, so I leaned into him when I saw this guy coming at us, and then he goes, Hey, well, you know, you could probably defend us better than I could.
And I was like, even though I was a feminist, I felt something in my gut sink inside me.
And I was like, why is that so gross?
And then my feminist brain was like, you shouldn't need a man to protect you.
But still, I didn't go on another date.
So I'm going to get to my.
I have two questions.
I got to get to my notes with Nicole, got to get to my notes to Julia, and then we have some from Rachel.
So I'll try to get through it as quickly as possible.
Nicole, you said that you consider yourself more moderate.
You're probably leaning a bit more conservative, but you subscribe to a lot more liberal sociological concepts like gender theory.
Yeah.
What do you mean by that?
Okay, so basically that just means that I've seen a lot of discussion on what a woman is.
And I subscribe to the theory that gender is performance.
So.
What is that, man?
That means like.
Okay, so that means that basically when you perceive people, you powdered toast man donated $200.
What's the Let's Dance Girl in Blue is Bay?
Wood Simp.
But seriously, have Rachel on more.
She's much more pleasant than Andrew.
Andrew causes things to be way too combative and it throws the whole show off emo.
He's way more entertaining, if that's what you're getting at, than I am.
All right.
Thank you, Powdered Toast.
Man, appreciate it.
You were saying gender is performance?
Yeah, essentially.
Because, you know, I hear a lot of people talk about biology and like reduce everything down to biology.
But the fact of the matter is that we don't check each other's chromosomes when we see each other, but we know if you're a man or a woman when you see them.
So, yeah.
And also, I really don't like the biological reductivism kind of because, anyways, because come on, let her.
Sorry, because I'm Catholic and I do believe that gender roles are important.
But the thing is, those are gender roles.
They're not like biological roles.
I think that society should enforce gender roles.
And a lot of conservatives just boil it down to, well, like, it's just what you have in your pants.
I think it's a lot more than that.
So that's what I mean by that.
So, like, if you erroneous!
Erroneous!
Hold on, that was just a whole bunch of word salads.
Sorry.
No, no, no, you shouldn't apologize.
Well, let me just ask you then, what is a woman?
Sure.
Okay, so a woman in the gender sense, in the sociological sense, is someone that does the duties that are aligned with the female sex.
So, you think a woman is someone who acts like a woman?
I think that, you know what, it does become kind of a difficult question, but in the same way that I think race is a social construct, because race is just what someone looks like.
I'm going to jump in on this one.
I'm about to.
They're going to get so mad when you say the word social construct.
Be careful.
I know.
Okay, just because something is a social construct doesn't mean it's not real, too.
They do not understand.
I don't understand the meaning of your words.
No, no, no.
Wait, listen, listen.
Language is a social construct.
Language is completely real.
Language has rules in the same way that gender has rules.
Gender has roles.
I think that people should align with the roles that are with their sex, but that doesn't mean that the roles themselves are biological.
I think that's dumb.
Here, let me have everybody's answer to the question: what is a woman?
Starting from you, moving that way.
Go ahead.
Starting from the woman.
Okay, you answered, then you, then around the table.
Okay, so Argum.
Holy fuck, yes.
Go ahead.
Into the mic, please.
I mean, I don't want to say, like, what's between your legs because people are going to come at me for that.
Well, tell us how you really feel, I guess.
I don't know.
I mean, yeah.
Like, I think, like, you know, based on what genitalia you have, like, that's the gender you are.
But do I think people are transgender?
Like, yeah, I support transgender people.
Hold on, let people answer.
No, I have the same exact answer as her.
I don't want to go more in-depth about that.
Ski'u Foya, Christ, his Lord, donated $200.
Your grandmother and her grandmother, going back through all human history, never struggled defining men and women.
Do you honestly think this generation is more enlightened than your ancestors?
No.
Can I answer that?
Well, let's get everybody's answer to this question.
Go ahead.
I think a woman is someone with breasts and vagina.
Okay.
It's an adult female.
By the way, this shows you that there is absolutely no Marxist training in schools.
There are two responses there.
A human adult with two X chromosomes.
I think it describes what I'm trying to say this in a way that's concise.
I'm sorry.
It describes what is expected of someone who is born with female chromosomes and female parts, but it describes more than just the parts.
It describes what we expect of them, what their role is in society.
Honestly, I agree with you, but also kind of.
Here, just for moving on forward, it's better to just actually state your position than just say, I agree with this person.
Just state your actual position.
Well, a human adult with two X chromosomes that is also born with the parts of a woman.
A human that presents themselves as a woman, you know?
Isn't that a bit circular?
It's very circular.
We'll get to that.
Yeah, that's just what I think.
Like, if you present yourself as a woman and that's what you go by, then you're a woman.
Okay, wait, so go ahead with your point.
Yeah, so the person that did the chat, they said that, you know, people aren't confused, or people back in the day weren't confused about their gender or anything.
And I think that's true.
I think that people are using biology because I don't think that men should, or people who are born with X, Y chromosomes should take on the role that women have.
But that's, you know, if you just reduce it to biology, then it doesn't matter because it's just, oh, they're just a man regardless.
Like, I think a woman is the role.
I don't think a woman is the chromosomes.
I want to kind of try, since it's a dating podcast, let me frame it a bit from a dating angle.
Let me ask, I'll try to ask this fairly simple question here for you.
Would you object to a man not wanting to date a transgender woman?
No, I would not.
You wouldn't object.
No.
Is a transgender woman a woman?
I think that, see, that's where it gets tough because, like I was trying to say before, I think race is a social construct as well.
It's just what you look like.
But I think it's inappropriate for a person to try and change what their race looks like.
Like someone might take on the race, like change their appearance so they look like a different race.
I don't think that's right.
But if it's a social construct, why can't they just fit into another social construct?
Well, I guess they could, but I don't think it's right.
Well, then that's your point.
That means you're pointing out an objective reality.
Yo, it was her.
That was me.
Yeah, so my point is that I don't support this change in the social construct.
I think it's a social rule for a reason.
Where did the social rule come from?
It comes from, I guess it comes from society.
That's why I want to.
I know, but that's circular there because it's a social construct that comes from society.
Where does society get it from?
That's what a social construct is.
It's something that's social.
Okay, so where does society, what is society made of?
Society is made of people.
Right, and where do these people get this idea of a social construct?
I don't know.
It's the same way that culture is a social idea.
Like, where does it come from?
We don't know.
No, no, no.
That's not true at all.
You have to have a place that it comes from.
Are people just pulling things out of the air and then saying this is a man and this is a woman?
I mean, I know we're doing that now, but is this what people have done from the beginning of time?
Well, I mean, a lot of the social role of women comes from biology.
The social role of women is going to be separate for this discussion from what a woman is.
And it's going to be the social role of, let's say, you know, a different race is also going to be separate from what a race is.
So if you're going to say that this is why the social construct argument doesn't make any sense, because a social construct has to be created by someone.
It's created by people.
What did they use to create it?
An arbitrary standard?
Or did they look at objective things in reality and define it accordingly?
Well, you agree that women have a social role, right?
Which social role?
Like, you know, women are typically supposed to supposed to or inclined to.
I guess inclined to.
Well, that's a different thing.
Because when you say supposed to, that means it's been enforced upon them from the outside, which fits into your social construct.
Society is creating this to oppress women, to oppress different races, as opposed to an inclination that comes from the biology towards the woman.
I mean, I think that people can be, like, people can use their biology, and that, you know, ties into the role.
I don't think they're divorced from each other.
I don't think being a woman and being female, because the thing is, when I say woman, I'm talking about the social role.
That's what I'm talking about.
You redefine terms to fit your argument, and then we can't.
That's not a redefinition, though.
That is a redefinition.
Let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question.
Again, bringing it back to dating.
Is it straight for a man to date a trans woman?
Wait, is it straight for a man to date a trans woman?
Would it be straight for a, say, a biological male to date a trans woman?
Okay, I don't think.
Who is a biological male?
Okay, yeah.
I don't think it's straight for the man to continually date and see the trans woman, but I don't see how it's gay for a person to be attracted to a person who is feminine or that looks like a woman.
Really, the question is.
It's homosexual.
That's what I'm talking about.
By definition, it's homosexual.
Well, I mean, like.
So, would it be straight for a man to date a trans woman?
No, that's not straight.
To date.
Yeah.
I'm just saying if someone is attracted to someone who looks like a woman, I don't think that's gay.
How is that gay?
That doesn't make sense.
But that wasn't his question.
That wasn't his question.
That's what I'm talking about.
You will often change the question though.
No, she did it.
She said, she did not answer the question.
She did, actually.
And then what she often does is she changes the question into an easier question to answer than the position that we're asking.
No, I didn't.
I answered the question.
I said it's not straight to date a trans woman.
That's what I said.
I said, but isn't the debt?
So the definition of.
Okay, well, I don't know if this really makes so straight is like short-form slang for heterosexual, right?
Yeah, right.
So when we say, how could it, if, if it, so, would your argument then shift to be a transgender woman is not a woman?
Again, I think that I'm talking about, okay, when we talk about biology and we talk about social roles, these are different things.
Okay, one question: is a transgender woman male or female?
They are male.
Okay, all right.
Actually, I don't want to linger too long on this specific topic.
I mean, you're kind of right when you say it's just fashion because when men pretend to be women, they think it's just a dress-up costume.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
What are you talking about?
But why should we honor that?
Why shouldn't we say we shouldn't have a female?
Why should we affirm or respect?
Honestly, most of the time.
That's more of a fetish, anyways.
Yes, it is.
Most of the time, these men are dressing up as the woman that they would want to bang or fantasy of what that woman would do with that.
Feminists, autogynophilia.
But feminists opened the door for this.
Margaret Fuller was writing in the 1800s about gender as a spectrum and everybody being somewhere on the spectrum and gender abolition.
This is all feminist ideology as well.
So when you get a little bit of a fairly important question, when they get mad about like men and women's sports, I just laugh because I'm like, you did it to yourself.
Here, let's switch gears a little bit here.
Stifler, ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
Starting with you, go ahead.
Seven.
Just don't do that to yourself.
Six.
I'm an 11.
I see.
Okay, true.
Seven.
Six.
I would say a 7.5.
Like a six.
I'm a five.
I give myself a five.
Thank you, Stiffler.
Appreciate it, man.
All right, we got some humble people here on the chat.
Appreciate it, guys.
We do have a chat here from Lol Paladins.
I'll read this quickly.
Actually, can I have you read it?
Question for comedian: Where did you learn logic/slash debate?
I've never seen someone break down the circular logic of society so quickly/slash easily.
Oh, I was a logic teacher for 14 years.
Oh, really?
Okay.
Nice.
Sorry to come in.
I should have put that on the table so everybody can see.
Yeah, you should have.
You can get that.
Disclaimer.
Let's see.
Getting into some of the other notes here from Nicole.
You said you like to call yourself a feminist, but I think I'm more traditional in the way that you guys describe it on whatever.
Yes.
So, like I said in the beginning, I kind of like the approach of psyoping feminism.
I think it's the most effective approach because I actually do really care about women a lot.
And I think that women are playing themselves when they just have casual sex and stuff like that.
So that's why, I don't know.
That's my approach.
And it seems to work with the people that I've talked to and my friends just anecdotally.
And I don't really see, so far, I haven't seen a more effective solution.
So yeah, that's why I like to say psyop feminism.
I just mean I like to twist feminism into basically just being I. You know, I say I'm a feminist and I quote feminists, but I go off of because I'm Catholic and that, like informs a lot of my worldview.
I'm still very Catholic, so I just I just like to, I just like to refer to feminists that follow my Catholic worldview.
Does that make sense?
No, I'm still so confused.
It's been hours of you saying this and I'm not.
I want to understand.
Your foundational worldview is built based on your faith right, and then the level above that is based on these certain ideologies, and so you are only inclined towards the ones which already can, can be aligned with your faith.
Yeah, as you proceed, but Ben George donated $200.
There is no such thing as social constructs, there is only reality.
You can't transition into something you're not period okay, no pun intended.
Why have women dropped the argument against appropriation?
We haven't, is it?
We haven't?
Yeah, it's totally appropriation.
They're appropriating yeah, but they're doing more than appropriating horrific.
But my point about um, feminism, I think that, just anecdotally, like on a on a one-to-one level, when it comes to girls that I talk to that are like you know, they're sleeping around and they're keep getting hurt over and over again.
When I say I want this for you because i'm Catholic, and I believe this because of i'm Catholic, they just shut down like they don't want to listen to me.
But when I say I am a feminist too and I believe that this isn't, you know, helpful for you because i'm pro-woman, like I do support women, and I want you to be in a more healthy minds mindset, or a more healthy lifestyle, then that's, that's what I mean.
Wait, I have a question.
Well, that makes a lot of sense.
I got a question.
You're Catholic, right?
Yeah, i'm Catholic.
Now, i'm not an expert in the Catholic faith but uh, isn't it the case that uh, under Catholicism, women can't be uh, like preachers?
They can't be cardinals, they can't be right uh bishops, they can't be anything under Catholicism?
Yes, but that's just because the priests don't want to molest them.
What the fuck?
Uh, but you're a feminist, so wouldn't your feminist?
So feminism, equality how do you reconcile the Catholic faith of uh barring women from positions of authority in the church with being feminist?
Well, I don't think that feminism, in at least in the way that i'm using it, means that women should take positions of power in the church.
I think that it means that women are happier when they where.
Women tend to be happier when they do um, I guess, the things that they ought to do within the Catholic social construct of what they should do.
I mean yes, exactly like pretty much interesting the way the social construct lines up with their own inclinations towards happiness.
Well yeah exactly, I mean what, what else would it be?
I guess I don't understand how you're a feminist then.
So she's using it.
She's using it in a different way.
That's the thing you have to understand.
The the term feminism does not mean the same thing to her as what we're.
What Mean to you?
Because, like, I think I've asked that like three, four, or five times, and I don't understand how you're feminist.
What, how is that different from patriarchy?
In your, like, if you don't want patriarchy and you're a feminist, what's the difference?
I'm using the word feminist to mean that I am pro-woman when I talk to other women.
That's what I mean.
I mean, wouldn't it be pro-women to allow women to be bishops and cardinals within the Catholic faith?
I think it's pro-woman to do things that are beneficial to women, and I don't think it's beneficial to women to have them take positions of power.
Should women be able to participate in the workforce?
I mean, I guess.
So, why shouldn't women be able to participate in the hierarchy of the church?
Because why would that not be beneficial to women?
Because work and the church in the church authority is a lot different.
The church, the priest takes on the persona of Jesus in the mass, and women cannot do that.
And women have their own role in the church, and it's not that.
Women can be, I mean, obviously, very nurturing, and women, I mean, women have children.
How are you not a patriarchist?
Well, I mean, I guess what does patriarchy mean?
It just means it means rule by the father.
I guess then, yes.
Okay, so you are a patriarchist, but you're just saying you're a feminist in order to be a person.
That's what I'm saying.
When we go into her world, it's the bizarro universe, and the words flip.
Well, I don't think that's fair.
I understand exactly what she's saying.
I don't totally agree because I'm not a Catholic.
Like, I don't necessarily agree with you on what the gender roles should be or what people ought to do.
But I understand that your personal views under Catholicism about the church, you're not saying that you agree with all the tenets of feminism.
You're talking about using feminism to promote the general well-being of women, what you think that is.
It doesn't necessarily align with the people who are not.
She's using the term feminism when I'm speaking.
You're using the term to, you think that's the best way to promote the general well-being of women and their welfare.
That sounds like a bunch of woman prattle bullshit to me.
I'm sorry that you're not on this.
Do you not agree with promotionalism?
Yeah, women prattling.
It's patriarchy.
When I say feminism, I mean it's just like she's not saying her.
It's redefining terms.
Her personal views.
No, she's such a woman thing.
When I say feminism, I actually mean patriarchy.
Well, you can't do that.
She's speaking about two different things.
She's talking about using feminism, meeting women where they are.
Yeah, right.
Women are more inclined.
I don't actually disagree with what you mean.
Yeah, women are more inclined to listen to them.
That's because you're talking about on a one-in-one.
It's evangelism.
I mean, yeah, I want to meet people where they're.
Like, I really do want to understand other people.
I don't think that's a bad idea.
And if people are using the word feminism to describe things, like, I feel oppressed.
I'm not a pro-woman.
I feel oppressed by this.
Yeah, so I think the best way to meet people where they are is to do that.
No, I think the patriarchy's got to come in and smash feminism.
I kind of like, like, this all is making.
What I'm realizing listening to this is that I long for a time when we didn't have to convince women.
I long for a time when we didn't have to be like how to pull them in and make them agree.
It's like, how about we just say, this is what you do?
This is your favorite.
Tell the men to do these are the things you're allowed to do.
Yeah, I mean, let's tell the men too because they're not stepping up.
I just don't think that's a very effective way to.
Yeah, I think it's extremely effective because men have the monopoly.
It's not happening in the middle.
And if they just say no tomorrow, if the men just say, eh, you know what?
No.
Your feminism stuff.
You're women and making the choices and doing what you want.
Just no.
How about that?
That's a bad sales talk.
I don't want to sell women on the patriarchy.
She doesn't care, dude.
She's a tyrannical dictator.
It will be a never-ending.
It will be a never-ending torture chamber of, but what about the men?
But what about my feelings?
And but what about what I was saying?
Why do you have to be so pedantic?
Let me just put it in the middle of the past.
Let me just say this.
Let me just say this, okay?
Let me just say this, okay?
Ever since I became red-pilled base conspiracy woman, my marriage proposals have gone through the roof.
So if you ladies are trying to lock in a man, just say something racist and you're good to go.
Fuck.
That's not true.
You know what, though?
Like, I do think it's actually a big red flag for a lot of men if a woman is feminist.
Yes, they love people.
They're being really nice to me than they're.
You're young and you're very pretty.
Thank you.
You're going to attract all the people.
If you were saying the same thing at my age, oh, it would be over for you.
Hold on, I'm not going to tell you, but I'm telling you this.
They all have this thought in the back of their mind.
As soon as you say you're a feminist, unless he's like really, I understand.
But in the back, I got to meet your boyfriend.
I got to see what his testosterone levels are at.
But most of the time, these dudes with high teeth and that really have ambition in the back of their mind.
As soon as you say feminist, they go, oh, this is going to be a problem.
Always, always, always, always.
And that keeps them from being like, let's go full throttle and like marry this chick and like do have kids and all that.
I do have to move things on a little bit.
Nicole, you said your extremely religious ex showed up to your house to tell your parents that you were a lesbian because he was trying to save you.
Yes.
That's where we got the language.
You got the lesbian.
So maybe that's what it was.
I'm not a lesbian, though.
In the state of limerence, you wrote a 20-page document within two weeks all about the guy who tried to say you were a lesbian that you liked, that I had known only online for a while previously.
And then he drove out to see you in DC and I immediately stopped liking him and you ceased all contact with him after we were good friends for a good three years.
Yeah, that did happen.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't even know what happened.
I don't know why I just got into the state.
I was friends with this guy for so long.
Like, we weren't that close, but then he's, I don't know.
He didn't even really like me.
I just, I was, like, obsessed with him.
And then I only knew him online because he was friends with my friend's cousin who I would play video games with.
So that's.
And you really wrote a 20-page document?
Yeah, I did.
I don't know what was wrong with me.
I just, I lost my mind.
That is love.
By the way, Pinkerton, I think we missed this.
I don't know if you're still in chat.
Thank you for the 20 gifted memberships.
A couple more notes here, then we're going to get to Julia.
Going to you, you said hookup culture is bad for women.
I don't think anybody disagrees.
You had some disagreements, though, with myself or the show.
You said that you disagree that there's nothing suspect about age gap relationships and that it doesn't matter.
Do you care to elaborate a little bit?
Yeah, sure.
Actually, I was doing a lot of reflection before the show to make sure I could really articulate my points if I disagreed.
So I actually did change my mind about that.
I don't think that age gap relationships are a big deal.
But I think when people have an ick about something, they should really figure out why.
And I realized it was just because it often comes with the power imbalance.
But just in the same way, I would feel that way if someone who is really rich was dating someone who was really poor.
What's wrong with that?
Well, I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with it.
I just think it's really easy for someone to abuse their power in that situation.
So I guess the threat of someone abusing their power is what makes me uncomfortable.
It's not the relationship.
Because I think people can have completely genuine, real age gap relationships.
And I also do think on the rich-poor component.
Couldn't you make the argument that actually, when it comes to abusive behavior, the person who's poor, who's seeking out the rich person, is much more likely to be the one who's trying to get something out of it as opposed to the rich person.
Yeah, that's what I meant.
That's what I meant.
Like, it seemed like the rich person is going to abuse, like, that doesn't, I don't know.
No, that's no, I never saw that this can happen too, though.
Like, the rich person can, you know, yeah, it's just there's clearly money.
You don't really even have to be rich to yeah, there's just clearly a dynamic there, and I realized that I was uncomfortable with the thought that someone could very easily abuse their power in that situation, not necessarily with the relationship.
So, I changed my mind on that.
I think there's a knee-jerk reaction when people think the woman is being manipulated.
Everyone's innate reaction is protect the woman, and when the man's being manipulated, it's like, well, he just shouldn't be so stupid, right?
So, nobody cares if it's a 40-year-old woman with an 18-year-old guy.
No, I just want to say that.
They're like, Well, he just wants to bang, it's fine.
But if it's a 40-year-old man with an 18-year-old girl, suddenly the 18-year-old woman, who we consider a strong, independent woman in every other sense, is a helpless, innocent victim.
Ben George donated $200.
There is a fine line between stereotypes and racism.
Find a woman that can joke using stereotypes.
Stay away from the woman that can't tell the difference.
I feel like this is a personal attack, Ben.
Ben.
Okay, thank you, Ben George.
Appreciate it, man.
You also said that, well, you don't, you've changed your position on it, so there's really not much to discuss there, really.
You said optics and tone policing are important.
Was this about Andrew Wilson or this about me?
No, it was about Andrew Wilson.
Okay, yeah.
I don't know.
He brings up tone policing sometimes when people say, Well, I agree with you, but I don't like the way you said it.
I think it's just because he doesn't meet people where they're at.
And I don't think he's a bunch of woman garbage.
We have to meet people where they're at.
Do you want to achieve your goals or not?
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
Do you want the vision that you see for the world?
Yeah, and the vision I see for the world is not going to be met through convincing a bunch of emotional, irrational women that what is reality is non-negotiable.
Why you're all just going to clean your speech?
Like, not ever saying, what about male passivity?
More woman garbage.
Are y'all going to let me talk?
You don't have to say it like that, though.
You can just say this is tone policy.
You're just being emotional.
That's tone policing.
It's nonsense.
This whole, I agree with what you said, but not how you said it.
That's bullshit.
And this is the problem with giving women power because now suddenly everyone's an HR manager.
Everyone's a hallman.
I just don't understand why you all just say woman in front of it.
Because it's a woman problem.
Men don't do this.
Men don't constantly go, actually, I agree with you.
I just don't like it.
Why don't you share what you think are weaknesses with men in society today?
What's that?
If you truly are telling me that you have an objective view, I would like you to share what you think are some weak areas of men in our society.
Honestly, if you're not.
What does that mean?
Because I want to see if you can actually be objective or if you're just a mouthpiece for your husband.
Oh, you think I'm just a mouthpiece?
I do.
Wow, I've never heard that one before, guys.
That's brand new to me.
I'm just a brain police.
I guess I couldn't think with my woman brains.
Yeah, I can't do something.
Well, clearly, I can't think with my woman brain, but if you'll be quiet long enough to let me talk, I'll tell you, I'll explain this to you.
All ears.
We know how to be friends.
It's because men generally, there's a male hierarchy, right?
If you're a man and you act like a little bitch like that, you get beat up.
You get stuffed in lockers.
You get a swirly.
Women are the only people who run around going, you know, I know that you're correct, but I just don't like the delivery.
It made me feel a certain way.
I'm in my feelings, and I don't like the way that you say that.
It wasn't the way you drove, it was the tone.
Right.
And men who act that way are being feminine.
They're being beta feminine bitches and they get put in there.
Women have different tactics.
They use social isolation.
They use defense.
Exactly.
They have witches optics.
When you're just different.
When you're parsing out the truth, when female aggression is different.
When you are parsing out the truth, you don't cater to women's stupid fucking feelings.
So you don't make femininity.
So, you don't have to do that.
I value femininity, and femininity means you sit down and you be quiet when people are parsing out the truth and telling you what's what.
You don't sit down here, though.
Oh, I don't like the way that you're here.
None of my wisdom as an older woman to let all of you know that you're full of shit.
But why are you?
Why are you at home being quiet and fulfilling yourself?
When I'm at home, I am.
She's got a whole pass.
But you're here.
I already said the patriarchy.
But I would like you to answer my question, and I will respectfully listen.
But I would like you to answer my question.
And the reason I ask it is because I want to see if you are able to view male and female strengths and weaknesses objectively.
Because, right, this podcast, and I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume because it is this podcast.
You just want me to name a weakness of men.
I would like to see where you think are areas of men in society that are weak appointments.
Sure, I would say that where men tend to go wrong is by being so desirous of women and putting them on a pedestal that they kind of go along and they fluff them up and go along with their nonsense because they want pussy.
And I think that's probably the biggest weakness that a lot of men are.
Can you, is there any weakness that you can list that doesn't have anything to do with women?
Women are not the best at anything.
You sound like that's not the same.
Women are not the best at the best.
It's not even true.
It's not even better than painting on your own gender.
I know you're going to say, single dads do better than that.
Single fathers have a better turnout rate than single mothers.
The woman prattles out of control.
Single fathers have a better turnout rate than single mothers.
Okay, respect.
Hopefully, I would like to.
So the problem right now is that we have an inverted social order.
The social order is not meant to be that we must cater to women's feelings and that women have to be okay with how things are said and they have to approve and we have to convince them and we have to pull them over to our side.
The way it's supposed to be is that the order is men, then women, then children.
The men parse out the truth, they write the laws, they enforce the laws, they run society.
The women can have their opinions all day, but it doesn't mean that anybody has to give a shit about them.
Does that make sense?
So you said, male passivity.
You didn't list that.
Do you think men in our society struggle with being passive?
Because I would argue that that's something that's a problem.
I think there's a higher, I've explained this 10 times.
There's a hierarchy among males.
The ones that end up at the top running things do not pay any attention to the passive bitches at the bottom and they get stuffed in lockers.
They don't generally get to reproduce.
So historically, every one of us sitting here has twice as many female ancestors as we have male ancestors.
The reason for that is that men have to compete to be worthy of reproduction.
As a woman, all you have to do is drop eggs.
That's it.
Someone's going to come along and inseminate you.
You don't have to be special.
You don't have to do anything wonderful or unique.
You don't have to compete necessarily.
Now you can compete for higher quality as a woman, but to reproduce as a woman, all you have to do is be fertile.
As a man, historically, you have to compete for the women.
So the betas, the cucks, the feminine men, they get used as cannon fodder ditch diggers.
It's tough being a male.
Sure.
Here's my problem with your approach.
As a woman of God, I would assume that you would put value in women.
And that's what I don't hear in anybody.
I put value in women as mothers, as wives, as caretakers.
I think they don't belong in the workplace.
They don't belong in college, with a few very minor exceptions.
And here's why.
We used to have communities.
We used to have women that, like me, would spend their early years raising kids.
As they get older and their kids start to leave the nest, they're helping the younger generations raise their kids.
They're helping their sisters, their nieces, their daughters raise children.
They're working in the church parish.
They're working in the community.
They're taking care of the elderly.
We don't have that anymore because women are all in cubicles working for corporations and paying taxes.
Getting sexually harassed by their bosses instead of their husbands at home where they should be.
Where it's fun, where you want the smack on the ass, you know?
So I know that you don't like my tone.
And my message to all of you women out there who don't like my tone is I don't fucking care.
I don't care.
It's not.
If you can't get past your own feelings to hear what I'm saying, then you're going to doom yourself to a life.
It's your lack of Christ-likeness.
That's what I don't like.
She's a woman.
She can't be like Christ.
I don't like that.
So you think Christianity is being nice?
It's me, the opposite.
I think Christianity is being, I think kindness is.
You know what God is called?
The first, when God describes himself in Exodus, the first adjective that he uses in Exodus 34, he says, I am a God of compassion.
And so I think compassion is very important.
And I think everything to your woman's feelings.
I think that you're in your feelings right now.
You don't like my delivery.
And I'm telling you that I don't care.
So every argument that I've just provided for you is scripture.
And you're trying to say that that's feeling.
No, you're not.
I think that's a slaughterhouse.
You're giving me a chance.
A woman is 34.
You are filtering your perception of Exodus.
Sorry, she is not a Christian.
She's not a Christian.
Did I just quote a literal?
2119.
Okay, did I just quote an obvious scripture?
You can look it up.
You can look up Exodus 34 and it will say, I'm a God of compassion.
That's the first faithful love.
All those healing characteristics.
It's your standard for compassion for you to accept myself.
No, but I think it's you're here to make sure that I speak the way that you think I should speak.
But I have a husband and I have a priest, right?
And if they think that the way I'm talking is not correct, absolutely correct, that is technically worse.
No, but technically we are supposed to be part of the same family, like sisters in Christ.
But all I'm saying is that.
And what we need is women who will boldly speak the truth and not mince words and not be subject to the HR management department and the hallmarks who are going to sing and be at home and be quiet.
But now we need to hold the truth.
When I'm at home, sweetheart, I am quiet and I am submissive to my husband.
Okay, but you're not.
But I'm here in a panel full of feminists and a panel full of modern women.
And so I'm here to tell you all that you're full of shit and that I don't care what you think about my delivery.
Argue my arguments.
Defeat my arguments.
Don't tone police me and say, well, you're right, Rachel.
I just don't like the way you delivered it because I don't care.
You know, I don't, your tone doesn't bother me at all.
Like, I agree with like a lot of what you say.
I just think you're ineffective.
I think you're ineffective.
Well, tell that to the Amazon bestseller list, which disagrees.
Okay, but you've sold a lot of books, but haven't changed anything.
I do.
Wait, say your point and then I'll make it.
Oh, no, I was just going to say, like, selling books doesn't mean you've changed anything.
Oh, maybe, maybe the hundreds of messages, letters, and DMs from women around the world saying that they've decided to not go to work, stay home with us yet.
You don't believe it?
I don't believe it.
Okay, and I will share them with you.
I just think it's a shame because you obviously have a big platform and I think it's unfortunate.
She feels bad for me.
It's not that I feel bad for you.
I literally think it's just like, listen, you talk about how you don't, we are always saying, I feel.
I said, I think it's a shame because you have a large platform and you're representing Christianity.
And unfortunately, I don't think you're representing values very well.
I'm sure you don't.
And I'm not saying, I did not do a personality.
You're a Pentecostal heretic.
What do I care what you think?
All right, we're back to the schism.
All right, guys.
I'm going to move it on.
I'm going to move it.
Let's do a little something light.
Actually, never mind.
Let's not do something light.
I will do something light soon that will get you all involved.
I've got two things.
So actually, before we get to your notes, I have a heart out at 10.
You mean 10 p.m. Hawaiian time?
Okay.
Anyways, do you have any final things you want me to say before I do you want me to drop the end bomb before going?
Preferably, preferably.
Can you tell us about any problematic groups that require flash?
How about you flash problematic groups?
No, no, no, no.
Where do you want me to start?
If there's solutions.
We'll have you stay for two segments.
How's that sound?
What is two segments?
I don't know what you have.
You hard out to your hotel room?
First of all, tell us about that.
I have any segments.
I have a masculine man who is picking me up, and he said 10 p.m. sharp.
Now he knows I'm a lady and I'm going to be late, and I have to respect his time.
So before anybody starts with me, I'm being a good woman.
She submits to the Patriots.
I'm countering a counter.
In the hierarchy of things, he's higher T than you, so you would be submissive to him.
And I'm sorry.
And I know he's higher T because he's lost more hair than you.
So let's LOL.
No, I got a heart out.
You got a heart out?
I do.
I have a heart out.
We have a 10 o'clock.
I think you have a Hawaiian.
Whatever I have is fine.
What's the question?
What's the question?
Is this the good?
Wait, you said you were online.
You're a four-month guy?
Yes.
Four-month guy?
He came with you from New York?
No, he lives in LA.
What's happening here?
Oh, wait, do you live in LA?
No, I'm here visiting him.
That's why I could do your podcast.
Oh, I thought you lived in LA.
He's laying pipe, Brian.
Oh, I live in D.C. You're not going to be able to compete.
First of all, I don't have sex outside of marriage.
Oh, I forgot.
I'm sorry.
Just kidding.
You a fucking liar.
What do you want from me?
What's the last thing you want from me?
What do you want?
What do you want over here, Tony?
Give me what you want.
I'll give it to you quick and straight.
I don't like that kind of talk.
Okay.
We need you.
Okay.
Your tone is all wrong.
I'll do the man bear.
Oh, wait, but she's gone.
God damn it.
The man bear, you go with the man unless you know he's an illegal immigrant.
Then you go with the bear.
Wait, there was the Reddit thing we were going to do.
We can just do that really quick.
We'll do the light thing.
And then she can go.
Scroll it up, big.
Okay, so this is what is the worst thing someone has said to you during sex?
Great.
Too big.
Too big.
Scroll down.
And before you give your answers, I'm going to have you read.
Okay, so go ahead.
Wait, scroll up next.
So scroll up.
Up, up, up.
Nope.
Right there.
Yep.
The small, the short sentence?
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
The short sentence, right?
No, no.
Okay, the yellow highlighted part.
Okay, not me, but an old friend of mine, really quiet, soft-spoken, polite guy, a total gentleman, and a graduate student in the liberal arts.
Also, pretty inexperienced, tentative, wait, tentative, tentative, and vanilla sexually.
He's dating this really cool girl for maybe two months.
She is much kinkier in bed.
She floats the idea of dirty talk and apparently likes to be objectified from time to time.
He's hesitant, but wants to please her and doesn't dismiss the idea outright.
Changes the subject and figures that they'll revisit the idea another time.
Anyway, they have sex a few.
Oh my God.
Bro, what?
They have sex a few days later.
I'm going to have to lock in.
For the first time since the conversation, really going at it doggy style.
And she tells him to talk dirty to her.
He says that he can't think of anything to say, so he says nothing.
And she then repeats the request.
But the second time, she is not fucking requesting, but demanding it.
He comes up with, yeah, you like that, you fucking R-word.
You can say it.
I'm okay.
Okay.
He's fucking retard.
That's what he said.
Never struck me as one for embellishment, so I believe him.
He said that he was he said that was it for sex that night, although they were together for two years on now.
Okay, I read that part wrong, but fine.
So that doesn't seem that's not that crazy.
Why is that crazy?
It's funny.
It's funny.
So what's the, what, what was the, uh, what is the worst thing someone has said to you during sex?
Worst thing, funniest thing?
Starting with you.
Can you start on that side?
What?
Why?
I don't know.
It's kind of hard to.
Can you start on this side?
I'm like, I have to.
I have to think.
I really like worst thing?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't think I've had anyone say anything like crazy, weird, or bad.
Personally.
I'll think about it.
So the question is: what is the worst or funniest thing that someone has said to you during sex?
I actually don't know.
I don't think anything like I don't like talking at all Like, anything anyone says makes me.
I don't like talking at all.
Just mute.
Okay.
Respect.
Probably like, did you finish?
Did you do the dishes?
During sex.
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't have any.
I'm a virgin.
Shut the fuck up.
You're full of shit.
I'm serious.
You're full of shit.
I'm serious.
No, I'm serious.
Bullshit.
She's also a saint who runs a charity.
Okay, so hold on.
All right, that's my time.
This is new.
That's my time, guys.
All right.
Thank you for having me.
Very nice seeing all you coming up.
Good luck.
We'll have you back.
We'll have you back.
Thank you so much for coming.
So, okay, here's what we're going to do, actually.
I think we can maybe like I think we have you scoot down.
I think.
Let me.
I'm just going to rearrange things.
You should.
I'm going to put both my hands.
Did you not like something else?
And then you'll just.
No, I don't.
You'll stay here.
You'll scoot down.
Okay.
So, hold on.
You're a virgin.
There's no.
I'm sorry.
What do you mean?
There's no way.
Why would you not be?
The high-value man isn't expecting anything.
He's just with you because he likes to hear you shit or chatter.
You have an OnlyFans.
You have fake boobs.
It doesn't add up.
I'm a virgin.
For real.
She's not the cat.
She's a virgin OnlyFans girl who lets her boyfriend fuck other women.
Panda donated $200.
Is the blonde chick next to Brian Andrews' twin sister or something?
They have the same emotionally immature, aggressive, and arrogant communication style.
Exact same vibes.
They even look the same.
WTH.
That's so sweet of you.
There's no one I'd rather be compared to.
Little Cersei Jamie Leannister action.
Yeah.
You get that reference, Bray?
I'm still stuck on this virgin thing.
I'm like, I'm actually serious.
I'm not kidding.
I'm like, really, like, I'm being like 100%.
Is that why you let him what?
Be plow other chicks.
Sleep with other girls.
I'll have intercourse with him when we're married.
So are you giving BJs?
Are you giving handies?
Giving BJs.
Because high-value men don't date.
I believe her.
I 100% believe you for sure.
Okay, so here's the deal we're going to make.
If anybody who's watching the show right now knows you, I invite them to absolutely spill any details about you.
That's fine.
If you're gonna, like...
That's fine.
Nobody's going to have any details.
She's beyond.
I can tell.
She's being honest.
Yeah, that's why.
Is that part of the reason why you let him sleep with other girls?
No, he gets it with other girls.
There's no fun.
And then as soon as you get married, let's go.
Keep going.
You're a good liar right now.
Into the bike.
Some bullshit.
Tell us how you feel.
400, huh?
Tell us how you feel.
How I feel?
Tell us how you feel.
She's just a fucking troll.
She's a fucking liar.
Like, this whole time, she's been trolling.
She's been lying.
Like, it's just, I don't know.
Like, I don't believe a word she fucking says at this point.
Like, she doesn't make any sense.
True.
Wait, can you two switch seats?
Wait, actually, before you do, any funny, funny worst thing you've heard during sex?
No, probably just him calling me a different, like a guy calling me a different name.
Becky or some shit.
Yeah, like a different girl's name.
Oh.
It wasn't like when we were fucking, but when we were like intimate, he asked me if I could cut him.
If you could cut him?
Cut him, yeah, like with a knife.
What?
Yeah, I did.
What?
See, you got stories.
You gotta share this shit.
Hold on.
Wait, like.
I'm sorry.
I didn't have time to send y'all stuff before us.
Wait, so you cut him?
Yeah.
Cut, cut him.
With a knife.
Like, was it a stab or a slice?
It was a slice.
Like, I cut him with a wrist.
Yikes.
Okay.
And, like, we're still friends now.
And, like, every once in a while, he'll like pull his wrist up and be like, I remember what you did to me.
I don't know.
Damn, that is pretty bad.
Holy shit.
He's a freak.
He was, like, super freaky.
Switch seats.
What about you?
Not applicable.
Oh, are you, are you a virgin?
You're waiting until marriage or?
Real.
Real virgin.
I believe it.
Fake virgin.
Real virgin?
Fake virgin.
On the ring.
It doesn't even fit you that ring.
Look at that.
Look at that fucking gap.
That shit could.
Here, just put your hand like that.
It'll just fall down.
Okay, well, she's holding it up, kind of.
Okay.
All right.
Wow.
Okay.
I don't buy that person.
Wait, we should ask the chat.
It's dated here because of the band.
I did, on like, I guess my friend's behalf, like one of my best friends.
Is there a feather on top of the microphone?
Can we get a pluck that shit off?
Pluck it off.
There we go.
Thank you.
Sorry, your friend.
What about your friend?
On my friend's behalf, I do remember them telling me, like, they had a guy who they dated that had a fart kink.
And so anytime they'd be fucking, he would prefer for her to be on her stomach, and he'd spread her ass, and he'd say, fart for daddy.
Oh, God.
Fart for daddy.
And she'd be like, I can't.
And he'd be like, try harder.
You see, you just said that on YouTube.
I'm sorry to the world.
Please don't listen to me.
Sorry, 12 gauge.
It's crazy.
All right, cool.
Let's do.
Here, let me read this chat.
We have Desert Joe.
Actually, can you read it, please?
Rachel Mo.
Oh, Rachel mopping the floor with these heretics.
Thank you.
And feminists.
This has been a great panel.
Ladies, pay attention to what she's saying, not how she's saying it.
So some emotional in there.
Didn't like how you said it.
So much truth.
That will make life better.
Cool.
Thank you, man.
Let's do really quick.
Hold on.
Wait.
Oh, my.
Okay.
Would you rather come across a random man or a random bear in the woods starting with you?
Go ahead.
What type of bear?
That's a good question.
That's a good question.
Let's say, okay, so in the same way that it's a random man, it's a random bear that you would find in North America.
A grizzly, a black.
It could be a black bear, could be a brown bear, grizzly.
Size.
Adult.
Rayulo.
Adult.
Adult size and adult man.
Adult bear.
Bear.
Yes.
Um.
Ah, fuck.
I'd probably choose the bear.
I'm not going to lie.
I'd choose the bear.
What about you?
I would say, based off my life experience, yeah, I would say probably bear.
Based off your life experience?
Just based off some situations, yeah.
I would say bear.
You mean situations you've had with men?
Yeah.
Have you had any situations with bears?
Cable donated $200.
Okay.
Panda and the rest of the panel, I'd just like to say from all of us here at the Crucible.
Thank you.
Continue to seethe and cope because based Rachel just destroyed you.
Not one step back.
Okay.
Thank you, Cable.
Appreciate it.
Okay.
What about you?
Which do you pick?
Definitely a man.
I would be so scared if I saw a bear in the forest.
Man.
Yeah, definitely a man.
A bear is like a death sentence.
I don't know what you guys are thinking.
Yeah, a man.
A man.
A bear.
A man.
Rachel.
A man.
Wait, so it was bear?
I think you said man, right?
Man.
Man.
So, bear, bear, bear.
It's bears Battle Star Galactica.
Okay.
Have you guys relying?
Have you ever heard the saying online, like, well, a bear wouldn't take off your pants and SA.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Yeah, it'll eat you alive.
Yeah.
I mean, that's like the worst.
How many men do you guys think just randomly SA a lot?
Well, when you say a lot, so while we, let's look into that.
So what proportion, so when I say random man, that would just essentially be plucking any man out of the whole U.S. population.
So what percentage of men in the U.S. do you think if presented with some opportunity to commit this crime, do you think would?
40%.
Oh my God.
I think 40%.
What do you think?
I honestly don't know.
I do think it's a lot lower, but I don't know.
I'm trying to be like unbiased.
I want to say only like five.
I'm hoping.
Five percent?
What do you think?
Like around, I'd say probably like five to ten percent.
We're between that.
Okay.
Interesting.
There's no feminist propaganda, though.
It's all a lie.
So if you were, here's another question.
If you were in a bathroom, would you rather a man or a bear wanders in?
Well, a bear can't fucking undo the door, really.
So like, am I in a bathroom?
Like, is there a lock on the door?
Like, let me know the logistics.
What's the one on the door?
Yeah, where are we?
High ceiling bathroom.
Is there a window in this bathroom?
Because I'll leave the window and I'll keep the bear in there.
It's a high ceiling bathroom.
Yes.
And American bathrooms are fucking terrible.
A high ceiling.
A high ceiling, which means that the divider doesn't go all the way to the top.
So the bear could climb over the paneling on this.
Bears are very good at climbing.
You can't cling on to.
Okay, which one do you prefer?
I'd still probably choose the fucking bear.
The bear?
Honestly, I don't know.
I don't know.
I guess a man.
A man?
Yeah, a man.
A man in that situation.
Do you think this is like a situation?
Wait, is that problem?
Is the man also crawling over the stalls?
Because in that case, I would change my answer to a bear.
I'm not saying the bear might not do that, but it could in the same way the man might not do that.
So it might just be a man accidentally wandering into the bathroom.
He's not like following me into the bathroom.
And I guess I'd pick the bear because the bear could be just.
Why don't the bear and the man have the same like.
But if a man's following you, that's kind of like a red flag.
No, not following you into the bathroom.
You're already in the bathroom.
A man wanders in.
A bear wanders in.
Okay, it's like a gender-neutral bathroom, and he's just in there chilling.
No, not gender.
It's the woman's bathroom.
It's a woman's bathroom in a red state.
I might pick the bear then, because the man probably is up to some nefarious.
What if it's a transgender woman?
Well, in that case, she probably just wants to go to the bathroom.
I'd pick the transgender woman, yes.
But it's still male.
It's so likely that that person is going to be bread to the marriage.
The transgender woman because it is a fetish.
Like, it literally is a fetish.
No, if it.
What do you mean?
Hold on.
If you're like generalizing all trans saying that it's a fetish.
It is.
Well, they're all mentally ill.
Mentally ill people are more likely to, you know.
I'm mentally ill and I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna linger too long on the bear thing, but I do want to ask a question for those of you who answered bear.
If we replace man with black person, does this question become racist?
Why does it have to be like a like what does it have to be a man versus a bear?
Does the question become racist?
It's just a question.
I mean, I would still choose the bear because a man, man, either way, you know?
But I said black person.
Is it racist?
Black person, like meaning like female or male?
Sure.
Okay, then I would choose them instead.
No, you don't get to choose.
But he says like a black woman.
He's asking if changing the proposition of the question makes changing the race of the person.
Like if it's racist.
Okay, let me just ask this.
How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
I didn't.
So I'm feeling intelligent.
No!
I actually had an alpha brain for breakfast.
Isn't that some type of IQ test?
It's just, it kind of tests your ability to entertain a hypothetical situation.
But in that case, it's not a hypothetical situation because she didn't have breakfast person.
I didn't.
So this is how I am.
No, but how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast?
Lighter.
There you go.
All right.
Wait, so okay.
Here's the question.
So if the question is, would you rather come across a random black person or a random bear in the woods?
If you answer bear, is your answer racist?
What?
I'm just saying.
If you answer bear, is your answer racist?
No?
No.
So, okay.
So what's your answer to that question then?
Still the bear?
I mean, so you said it's like it could be a man or a woman or it doesn't matter.
Just a black person.
Honestly, okay, if I'm in the woods and a random person comes up to me, it's going to scare me regardless.
So actually.
No, okay, but it's you're.
I know.
The original question is: would you rather, you're going to come across either a random man or a random bear.
But I'm asking if we like change it to race, does it then become a racist?
If you answer bear, is it a racist answer?
I wouldn't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't.
Now, what if the same justifications that you used for picking a bear over a man, the risk of SA, you use those same exact justification and pretext for picking the bear?
I'd rather pick a bear because this racial group.
He's checking for consistency with what?
Here, let me ask you the question.
Which would you pick, the bear or the.
They really don't like this one.
Okay.
I mean, I think it doesn't make sense because if you were to say, if you were to change it to like a black man, but if you're saying if it was like a black person in general, like a woman or like a black child, like I'm pretty, I would choose, I would choose them.
But if you're saying men in general, whether it's black, Asian, whatever, man, I would choose the bear.
Like, I just, I'm just saying, like.
Well, there's a 50% chance you get a man, a 50% chance you get a woman.
Well, is there a 50%?
Like, I get a bear and a 50%.
Into the mic.
Into the mic.
So I get either a good bear or a bad bear or like a man or a woman.
You get a random bear.
It's not, you don't.
I hope it's not a polar bear.
And you can make a difference.
And I'm just like, and I'm just looking at coin on whether I get a man or a woman walking through the door.
I'm like, I guess, I guess, yeah, no, I would still choose the man or the woman because I guess at least I have the probability of it being a woman.
Okay.
The point I'm trying to make here, if the original, if the question of, if you change it to like a race-based question, if it's racist, then it must, it must, of course, then be sexist to choose a bear over a man.
I think it would be racist if you were to say, if you were to choose a man or a bear and someone chose a man, and if you were to change it to black man and they chose the bear, then it would be racist.
I think so.
I think, like, I think the reason this question is causing so much kerfuffle online is because it kind of shows how much women think men are inherently abusive, violent, risky, dangerous, when in actuality, this is super irrational to choose the bear over the man.
And so it shows that women are easily propagandized, emotional in their decision-making, and that they're not going to accurately assess risk.
They're going to go based off of like emotional impulse.
Well, but it has to do with experience.
Life experience.
I said life experience for me because like I, my first relationship, my only relationship was the worst thing I've ever been through my entire life.
So for me, based off what I've been through, like.
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Communique from the Grand Inquisitor.
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Breakfast, well done, Mrs. Rachel.
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I was not roasted.
I am not a turkey.
All right, thank you.
And then we do have one chat here really quick from thank you, Bully Boule.
Mr. Bouleis?
Boullier.
Mr. Boullier.
Monsieur.
Has any guy called you more than one girl's name during sex?
Has this happened to anybody?
Ever been called a different girl's name during just me?
Just you?
Just you.
So going back, you were saying?
Yeah, so like, obviously, like, last I wanted to, like, try to be unbiased in my answers because obviously I know my experience was not the experience of every person.
Like, you have a great relationship, and you've also had bad ones, and obviously you can't base every man off of one bad one.
Right.
But to an extent, I don't think my answer is necessarily emotional, but it's more just like I've just happened to have really bad experiences with a lot of men.
So in my opinion.
I'm just like confused, though, because a bear is like instant death.
Like you're saying you would rather just choose death than to be put in the same room as a man.
It's not instant death.
Well, yes, it is.
Not necessarily.
Yes, it is, unless you've never had interactions with wildlife.
If you've ever had interactions with wildlife, your chances are not good.
But blackout.
This explains how women, this is a difference between men and women that's very fundamental.
Women personalize everything.
And you can tell this, right, by if you go, if you make a generalization, you say women tend to, women tend to be shorter than men on average.
There will always be some woman that pipes up and goes, but I'm actually 5'11.
So that doesn't apply to me.
So like women tend to personalize.
I mean, I'm going to be honest, I probably 100% did that.
Right, right, just subconsciously.
How many guys, like, let's say you've had interactions with a thousand random men over your lifetime?
How do you think it would go for you if you had interactions with a thousand random bears over your lifetime?
Okay, actually, I've never had that.
Yeah, so like you're picking the bear because you don't have experience with bears.
And probably you grew up watching Disney movies where bears were cute and cuddly and they sang songs.
So, like, the reason this question is important is because it just demonstrates all of the biases that women have in decision-making.
Yeah, I actually completely agree.
You know, Brian, you said something in a previous show that I really liked.
You said that women say bear because it's social signaling.
Yeah.
And I think it is social signaling, but again, most of the time, whenever women social signal like that, there's a reason for it.
So I do think women are afraid of men.
And I don't know if that's it's probably unfounded, but I don't know.
I guess there should just be a push for more moral men.
I don't know how there could be, because I know there's a big issue with SA.
Like a lot of people know people that have been essayed, and it's just, it seems like it's a huge thing that happens.
So depends on the definition of SA, because there's a lot of women who think that when they regret an encounter the next day, that that counts, that a smack on the bum might count.
Or when I was with this guy and I loved him, it wasn't SA, but now that I broke up with him and he's a jerk, now it is SA.
It's all emotional.
It's all emotional.
And the statistics are based on self-report, which is really important.
We're not going based off of convictions.
We're not going based off of cases with evidence.
It's really hard to convict people of that.
It is, and I will grant that.
There's very little evidence in this.
I will grant that.
We can totally grant that, and it doesn't change my argument that the statistics of like when you hear this one in three women have been SA'd, that is based off of self-report and the woman's perception of what happened.
And we just saw with the bear question that women's perceptions of reality are personalized and biased and filtered through a bunch of emotion and things like that.
Well, I mean, so like 30% of your sample size, because you asked how many of us, two, four, six, eight.
So you asked eight of us and three of them answered bear.
So of your sample size.
So it's it's that's a bit of a generalization to say women say this.
You could say that.
Well, no, that it's pretty consistent with the statistics, right?
Because if one out of every three women would say they've been SA'd, then three out of the nine of us saying bear.
You know, and I'm not saying that doesn't that counter your argument?
No, I'm saying that it's hard to say.
My whole point was just to say that it's not necessarily objective when women say these things.
It's based off of a perception, emotional filters, and all these other things that if you ask a guy, they don't necessarily just don't view things that way.
They don't do everything based off of pure like emotional, personal experience, anecdote.
They don't start sentences with, I feel like as often as women do.
I'm not even saying this is bad.
I'm just saying we're different, and this is why having men in leadership positions and stuff makes more sense.
I think that's why it's more effective to communicate with women.
Sorry, I won't go back to it, but that's I understand that women are different, so that's why I think it's more effective to be.
Here, let's get into the notes here for Julia.
Julia, you were recently dating a 24-year-old.
There's a six-year age gap there because you are.
He's five.
Oh, you wrote six, whatever.
You said, but looks like these young men are lacking their older women.
Seen up below about men dating younger.
Okay, so how long were you dating him for?
Just two months.
Two months.
Okay.
And let's see.
Oh, wait, hold on.
Sorry.
Wait, hold on.
Your most recent relationship was with a guy six years younger than me, which developed while I was doing a 70-day singleness fast.
Yeah.
What is that?
So I deleted all the apps.
I stopped, like, anyone that I was talking to, I ended the communication and devoted myself to, like, focusing on my faith, prayer, that sort of thing, for 70 days.
How soon into the 70 days did you?
And no, like, anything no set self, like, everything that could be relational or sexual cut.
Right, but okay, you said how soon into your 70-day singleness fast did you 32, no, no, sorry, sorry, 42 days in.
52, 42 days in.
42 days in.
So, yeah, so, so we kind of like started.
Tilt your mic down a little bit, please.
We started kind of the spark happened, and then the PQ Definitely.
And I realized it works both ways, technically.
And so, but I told him, I said, I'd have to wait.
I said, you have to wait a month until this fast is over.
And so he was like, I guess I have something to look forward to.
So he asked me out and I said, you have to wait a month.
And so then he didn't let him text me or talk to me.
We only saw each other at church or Bible study and that sort of thing.
And it was really sweet.
You're looking around in space.
No, it's just everyone's got up, so it's kind of annoying.
But okay, so and you date him for two months?
So did you actually go through with the waiting for?
Yeah, we waited.
And then, so the.
So you guys did have carnal knowledge.
James's.
Carnal knowledge?
Carnal knowledge.
No.
Sex.
No, we didn't.
No.
But you said you have to wait.
To go on a date with me.
He had to wait until I was done with my fast to go on a date with me.
And to text me and to like hang out.
Yeah.
So I would only, I said we could only see each other in group setting.
Like we go to the same church, so we see each other at church.
So I was like, you can talk to me then, but we can't.
And I let him send me a Valentine's Day.
You let him send.
God, what a simp.
Fuck this guy.
No, he was, he's amazing.
No, he's literally.
He's the most manly guy I've ever dated.
He is the most, like, he is incredible.
The internalized feminism is overwhelming right now.
He respected my fast.
I said, and he was willing to wait.
So like, I'm like, clearly, you, like, we both have the same goal.
We both want marriage out of a relationship.
And so he saw enough value in me after getting to know me for 18 months in a totally non-romantic context that he was like, it's worth it to wait for this girl.
I think that takes, I think that's incredibly admirable.
Why didn't it work out?
I think personality differences.
You didn't find him attractive, huh?
No, he ended things with me.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Okay.
Why did he say, like, what was he doing?
Do you want to share one?
He said personality differences.
I don't know what happened.
But he quoted personality differences.
What prompted you to go on a 70-day singleness fast?
I'm assuming there was some sort of dating-related thing that must have precipitated that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, the Holy Spirit.
As Andrew would say, the Holy Spirit.
Conviction.
Amen.
Praise God.
Thank God for the Holy Spirit.
Okay, so I shortly after returning from California in October, I went on a date with a guy who was a few years older than me.
And he lived in Miami.
And he was really successful and handsome and good, charisma, and all this stuff.
And so he basically offered to hang out with me more.
So we hung out while he was in DC and then he went back to Miami.
And so he was like, Can I fly you out to Miami?
And I have his name Walter.
No.
Who's Walter?
He likes white.
It's not important.
Not important.
Not Walter.
Not Walter.
Myron.
What is his name?
Oh my gosh, I'm blanking.
Okay, never mind.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
No, not Walter, not Brian.
No, Myron.
Myron.
Go ahead.
And Myron may wait no 18 months.
I can tell you that right now.
Anyways, so I was like convicted because I was like, if I have friends in Miami, so I was like, okay, I can stay at their houses and stuff.
It'll be fine.
But if I go, what if I cross boundaries and I don't want to do that?
And so I knew I was putting myself in a potentially like tempting situation that could compromise my values.
And so I was praying and I was like, Lord, I just need you to intervene because I'm going to go, which is not the right spirit.
That was the spirit of disobedience.
But I did it and I was just like, Lord, I surrender this to you.
Please, I just pray that you'll help me.
And I literally show up.
I get to Miami.
I get he, you know, like he had an Uber pick me up.
I get there and he says hi.
And he's been texting me the whole time how excited he is.
And then literally one minute into hanging out, he just like looks at me and his whole face changes.
And he just like, I, the best way I can describe it, like the look of just total disgust and hatred.
And I don't know what it was, but it was like he just hated me.
And he was like, he started saying things like, I can't believe I invited a stranger into my house.
And like all this stuff.
And I was just like, you invited, I was like, I have text messages.
I mean, you clearly, you paid for the trip.
Dang.
Well, keep going.
Keep going.
Literally.
So he's so mean to me.
He's just like, we can't.
He's like, we can't go out.
He's like, we're just here.
I have this stranger in my apartment.
Oh, and then guess what?
In Miami that weekend, or it wasn't a week.
We went during the week.
It was a monsoon.
So I literally couldn't leave the apartment because it was so flooded.
And so it was, I was, I was just like staying in this apartment with this guy, trying to make him feel better because he was so like, this is so bad.
Like, I can't believe I invited a stranger.
How did you guys meet on Tinder?
No.
Okay.
How did you guys meet?
Hinge.
So did your profile picture not look the same?
No, no, we'd already met.
We'd already met in DC and hung out and everything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This was not the first time he met me.
Why would he say you were a stranger?
Dude, I know.
I think it was God.
Because I prayed and I was like, Lord, I need help.
Like, I need you to help me to not somehow cross these boundaries, even though I'm putting myself in a totally tempting situation where I'm obviously going to cross boundaries.
And I literally show up at this guy's apartment and he is just, he hates me.
And he was texting me for like two weeks leading up to the trip being like, I can't wait to see you.
Like, you're so gorgeous.
Like, all this stuff.
Like, he and you know, like, wait.
Wait, this doesn't.
I'm sorry.
This doesn't make it.
I can show you the text.
I can show you the text messages.
So you step through the door, instantly, he's like, fuck you.
I step through the door.
I have my suitcase.
He's like, Welcome.
I'm like, hi.
And he's like, and we kind of walk into his place.
He goes and sits on his couch.
And I'm like, no, he goes, Do you need anything?
And I said, I need to find my wallet because I realized that in the Uber that I couldn't, I didn't know where my wallet was.
And I was afraid I left it on the plane.
So I started kind of like, I opened my suitcase and I'm like, I grab my wallet and then I take it.
And then, and then I brought this game, which was like called, it was a little card game.
It was like, let's date.
And it's like a card game with like cute little phone, like sassy questions.
And so I sit, like, I find the wallet, I find the cards.
And so like, I go and I sit next to him on the couch.
And, you know, he like has his arm around me and is, and like, is all like obviously interested.
And then I was like, well, wait, first, let's play this little game.
Because I was nervous and I didn't, you know.
And so we start playing the card game.
And then he's like, oh my gosh, you're going to fall in love with me.
And then he, and then that's when the hatred.
Hatred.
That's how I would describe it.
Yeah, he literally hated me.
And I have a text message from him where he said, like, as soon as I got back to DC, he literally was, like, I can, I can read the text.
He was like, I should, I, like, I know I was really mean.
Do you want me to read it?
Should I read the text?
I can read the text.
Give us maybe just the summary.
It was basically like, hey, like, you know, I'm honestly, like, I hope you got back okay.
I'm, I'm really, because he had been, he was like, did you get home okay?
And I didn't respond.
And then he said something else, I didn't respond.
And then he goes, I go, he goes, hey, I, like, I hope you got home okay.
I just want to say, like, you know, I know I was kind of in a funk while you were here.
And, you know, I'm sorry for the way I acted.
Like, I realized I was rude to you and that was like stuff like that.
And he was just like, I hope, like, you're good and all that.
So it was just literally like something came over him.
And we were there in this apartment with long sooning.
I don't think he, like, I don't think he was bipolar.
He didn't say that he was.
Did you guys hook up?
What do you mean by hook up?
Carnal knowledge.
Well, like, we had made out and we had, we had cuddled, but that was it.
When you're when he was in DC?
When he was in DC.
But nothing in Miami.
Did you guys sleep in separate rooms?
No, we slept in the same bed, which was so uncomfortable.
We were just like, I was literally like this.
I was like, ooh.
Like, we were just, and he was, he was, did this, and that, yeah, and he was just like, I can't believe I let it.
That's when he said it again.
I let a stranger.
Sometimes it's best to just kind of go your own way.
That's really awkward to lit.
I know.
So at that, well, that was that first night.
So then I'd go and I'd call up my friend and I'm trying to like see her.
It's in the meantime, it's like it's flooded.
And so basically, I ended up, I changed my flight so that I could leave out the next day.
I have a question.
And I don't, I honestly don't mean to be mean, but you're a very chatty lady.
Were you this chatty in the situation?
Like, did you come in the house and just go, blah, blah, I definitely was nervous.
So I probably was bubbly.
He had this as a chatty person myself.
Yeah.
We'd met.
We'd gone on two dates.
So he knew what I was like.
Because on the first date, I was also a little nervous.
That's weird.
I just thought maybe it was like the Uber.
So that made me realize that someone that would actually tolerate the way that he treated me, I must have a lot of self-loathing.
And so that kind of sent me on this.
I was like, I need to figure out this self-loathing.
Because only someone that doesn't care about themselves would allow that.
Because otherwise, they'd just be like, hey, screw you.
And so then I went to this retreat.
And then I had a encounter with Jesus.
And we like went back and he healed me of three core memories.
And that's when I started my fast.
That's what triggered it.
That's what precipitated your 70-day singleness fast.
Okay.
Let's see.
All right.
And then you dated a guy who is six years your junior.
Yeah.
Which is interesting because you've been on the show before almost a year ago.
And you provided.
No, I think it's longer than that.
You provided some, maybe nine months.
You provided pre-show notes previously and you said that why do men seek to date and marry girls way younger than them look for partners your own age?
I know.
But you have to be able to do that.
They want enabies.
They want innocence.
They want innocence.
They want babies.
They want lower body counts.
They want less.
Because of pair bonding.
It's like proven that after a girl sleeps with five guys, their chance at a happy marriage goes down, I think, by 80%.
Yeah.
So you want to know the best line of when I dated this guy, I called my mom at some point, I tell her, and she's like, good, get them while they're young.
They're less polluted.
So I guess she would.
I thought that was funny.
Because she's like a mom and she was.
Anyways, but yeah, it was great.
He's been like my favorite guy that I've dated.
Okay, here, let's do the bumble segment to get everybody involved in the conversation.
Nick, can you pull up the bumble segment?
Yeah, I've seen the age range.
Start it.
We're going to go with you.
We'll go around the table.
Age range of guy you'd like to date?
Into the mic, please.
I'd say minimum.
I prefer someone that's like my age, or I'd say max would be 30.
What's your age?
22.
22.
Okay, so you each get 20 swipes.
You each get 20 swipes.
We're going to pull up some male profiles on Bumble.
No.
Hold on.
But here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
Whoever's turn it is, you guys can't give input.
You got to let them decide on their own.
Go ahead.
Which one is it?
It's the guy in the middle.
The guy.
No.
Okay.
No, you're going to get a little bit of a drink.
Can you move the camera so we see his age?
No. No. No. No. No.
No.
Wow, okay.
No, no, no, no, God, no.
Wait.
Yes?
It's the lump roller.
Oh, is this guy fucking married?
What the fuck?
No. No. No. No.
So that was one out of 20, I think.
Yeah, I just liked his hair.
Oh, we didn't do.
We forgot to do with.
Oh, no, we did do the stiffler question.
Okay, never mind.
Age range for you?
I would say anywhere from like 25 to like 30.
25 to 30.
By the way, so you, that was one of 20.
So you said no to 19 out of 20 guys.
Nick, go ahead and switch it for her.
You said 25 to 30, correct?
Okay.
No.
These poor guys that are just.
Into the mic, please.
Into the mic.
No.
No.
Wait.
Yes.
No, no, no, I can't even see what he looks like.
So now.
No.
Oh no.
Yeah.
I can't see so now.
Kid.
Yeah.
She was one of them.
I guess, yeah.
No.
No.
Yeah.
That's 20.
Ah, damn.
How many yeses was that?
Two.
Two.
All right.
Claire?
I can't do this segment.
I have a boyfriend.
I'm not gonna.
Am I required to?
You don't have to.
You could be a good sport, though.
Okay.
I'll do it.
You don't have to do it.
I'll do it.
You could just pretend as if you were single.
Age range.
Um yeah, twenty twenty-one to thirty.
I don't know.
Oh, sorry, twenty-one to thirty.
No.
Nope.
No.
Should we do a bonus ten?
Yeah, you get a bonus ten if you say no to everybody.
I get a bonus ten.
None of them are my boyfriend.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Do I have to say yes to one eventually for it to end?
No.
We just had.
So that was all no?
Yeah.
One of them did kind of actually look like my boyfriend.
I almost said yes.
Okay, my age range on apps was like 30 to 45.
Okay, 30 to 45.
And this is just to go on a to match with them or to go on a date?
Uh, like age range, you'd be willing to date.
Yeah.
Okay.
Willing to go on a first date.
No, no, no, no.
Yes.
No.
Yes. Yes. Yes. No.
No.
Yes.
No. No. No. No.
Yes.
No.
Yes.
That was what, five, six?
That was a decent amount.
Anyone can keep in track?
I don't know.
Your age range for guys you would date?
Probably 19 to 23.
okay no no no no no no Yeah.
He's in a car.
No!
Yeah, I got a car, kink, y'all know.
No.
Is it because he's red?
Oh.
Ugh.
Wait, what the fuck?
Like, yes, but no, because he's in the military.
100% yes.
What?
Yes, because of the Wojack.
Yeah.
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.
The curly hair?
Maybe.
That's funny.
That was, I think, one.
I think that was one out of 20.
Okay.
Um, 19 through like 21.
19 to 21.
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No.
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.
Sorry.
Um, yeah.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
No. No. No. No.
Three of twenty.
Y'all just don't like men.
What's going on?
Adrian, guys you would date.
Oh, God.
I. Like, I guess 20 to 30, but I'm going to say no to everyone because boyfriend.
Okay.
We'll do.
You want to do it?
Yeah, sure.
What is your age?
19 to 23.
But I love my boyfriend, so to purpose.
BGW.
Yes.
No. No. No.
Yes.
Yes.
No.
No.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
I don't know.
No.
No.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
No.
Yes.
No.
No.
That was 10 of 20.
I think she got them right.
Wow.
I think that's the most we've ever had.
I love my boyfriend.
Sorry.
Aside from her, y'all picky as fuck.
They just don't like guys.
I can't even see half of them looked all over.
Especially you.
There were some good-looking dudes that you passed on.
Not gonna.
Well, I still have a boyfriend.
Just not like in that way, you guys.
Oh, no, I know, but they sort of have features that he has.
So that's why I particularly like them.
All right, fair enough.
I mean, you did say three, so I don't know.
I feel bad for all the men out there on dating apps.
Damn.
These girls are picky, man.
Picky.
Picky picky.
I think it's also different.
For when you're all rejecting like seven, eight, and nine, ten, like seven, eight dudes.
So, anyways, back to Julia here for a little bit, and then we're gonna.
I've totally forgot.
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Back to Julia.
Si, senor.
You wanted to.
I mixed up your notes from last time, this time, but you wanted to talk about if guys want girls to be virtuous, then they need to hold themselves to the same standard.
And this includes pornos.
Totally.
Includes who?
Porneus.
But I'm more focused on the beginning part.
So if guys want girls to be virtuous, then they need to hold themselves to the same standard.
Yeah.
Okay.
You want me to elaborate?
Elaborate briefly if you can.
Elaborate briefly.
Yeah.
I think that in terms of something like celibacy, especially in today's day and age, there's a reason why you're doing it.
So, like, obviously for me, it's because of my faith.
And so I'm going to want my men that I'm dating to have that same focus because it doesn't work when you're otherwise you just you fall.
Sure.
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Yeah.
Abdul?
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Okay.
Well, so there's the micro level on the individual level, but I think you're talking a bit more on the macro level.
Okay.
But it occurs to me that it's not like an equal one-to-one proportion of like, so you have promiscuous women.
I would argue that there's more women engaging in promiscuity than there are men.
What I think is happening is you'll have, for example, there'll be like, say, the top 10% of men that are hyper-promiscuous.
And those guys will have, say, body counts of, I don't know, over 100.
And then you'll have a larger proportion of women that have, for example, 30, 40, 50 body counts.
These aren't exact numbers, but just to articulate a point.
And then you'll have a huge subset of men that have zero access or minimal access to hookup culture.
Typically, these men are not going to be able to get sex outside of perhaps the very rare occasional hookup, or it's going to have to be through a relationship.
But almost any woman, if she was so inclined, could be a slut.
Any woman could be a slut.
Not every man can be a slut.
And so if it's say 50% of women that are engaging in this promiscuity and it's 10% of men that are enabling it, wouldn't the blame be on the larger cohort of people that is sort of perpetuating this?
Okay.
Sure.
Okay, checkmate.
Cool.
Moving on to the next topic.
Well, no, what's your point?
Well, but you're saying, well, men need to be virtuous too.
In terms of pornography, yeah.
I mean, I'm not talking about pornography.
I'm just talking more so about there's this like men are promiscuous, women are promiscuous.
But it seems like it's a small portion of men that have that level of sexual access.
So, if it's 10% of men and 50% of women, it seems like the onus is a little bit more on women there than on like there's more women who are participating in this than there are men.
The problem is, is like with the experiment that we just did with the dating apps, is that everyone wants the same guy.
Yes, everyone.
Everyone wants the same guy, and that's the problem.
And that's the problem.
Well, and I always say this too, like, even as a Christian woman, and Julie's a Christian woman, we still, as Christian women, do not tend to be attracted to the men who are virgins because the men who are virgins tend to be involuntarily virgins, right?
So, we still, and the reason is because we look at men who are sexually successful with other women and we see that they have value because other women want them.
It's like, oh, there must be something there, right?
Right.
Everybody, and everybody is guilty of that.
Whereas if you, if you get to like, like, I didn't you say your dating range was like 30 to 40 something, yeah, although obviously I'm willing to right, but like, so you're probably not gonna find a guy in his 30s or 40s who's a virgin unless involuntarily.
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I don't see anything that I said that would make you unless unless you're like, oh, she's Protestant, so that's not real.
Unless that's okay, fine.
But other than that, let me know.
Okay.
So going back to this, hold on, wait, wait.
You said that you disagree with Brian regarding his views on marriage, body count, premarital sex.
Wait, are you, so you're celibate, right?
Yeah.
How long have you been celibate for?
Four years?
Four years?
Okay.
Since, yep.
That's pretty.
Congrats.
That's good.
Thank you.
Four years.
Okay.
So no carnal knowledge for four years.
Okay.
Good times.
Carnal knowledge like sexuality.
I wouldn't call it good times, Brian.
I'd call it like we're surviving, but you know, the way that I would like the PQ is just going crazy.
The way that the PQ is going crazy.
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Simpson current it.
Chad plus simp equals chimp behavior.
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Women are bigger salutes than virtually any males.
Okay.
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It does occur to me that one of the problems going on is because we have this sort of very kind of well, especially with dating apps, women have access to men that they previously didn't.
I mean, there's, look, still, before even dating apps and social media, you could go to a bar or a nightclub, but now it makes it extremely convenient and also extremely, oh shit, what's the term I'm looking for?
What's the term for keeping something kind of private?
Discrete.
Discreet.
So you could like match with somebody on a dating app, go to their place, they go to yours.
Nobody would be the wiser.
So, I mean, there's a lot of discretion here, which is kind of to the benefit of people who are desirous of engaging in promiscuity.
But I think what ends up happening is we all want to get the best we can get, right?
We all want the most attractive person, physically attractive, however, what other ways that attractiveness can manifest itself.
It could be status, could be personality, could be values, whatever it is.
We all want the best we can get.
I think the big difference is, and I've talked about this ad nauseum, is that men get rejected on the front end.
Women will get rejected on the back end.
So a guy will.
What will end up happening?
For example, if I were to step to a woman who is just, let's just, if we look at it objectively, who's just, she's just more attractive than I am.
And let's just look at the physical metrics.
If I step to a girl who's more physically attractive than I am, I'm getting an instant rejection.
She's not going to entertain me for a date.
She's not going to entertain me for anything.
I don't even get a date with a girl who's like out of my league.
Let's say nothing.
Don't get a date.
Certainly won't even get any sort of sexual access or romantic access.
Nothing.
She wouldn't want to pursue me for short-term sex or long-term romantic relationship.
It's not the same for women.
Men will sleep with a woman who they would just on the basis of her physical attractiveness will never be in a relationship with her, but they welcome the easy access to sex.
It's not like if I step to a girl who's like a nine, who's just objectively more attractive than I am, and she might have more standards than just purely physical looks, but you know, there's, I ain't scoring a nine, you know.
No, you know, never say never.
Maybe if she likes my autism, I don't know.
If I step to her, instant rejection.
But if a girl who's like a six steps to a dude who's an eight or a nine, offering, like, who's simping for the guy and is like, demonstrates a high degree of desire and interest and sexual interest, especially, he'll be like, okay.
He'll never give her commitment, though.
Why are you shaking your head?
I disagree.
Disagree with what?
I disagree with the premise that women are never that if you were to like any guy is going to hit on a woman more attractive than him, it's instant rejection.
I see women dating down constantly and having sex down constantly.
Like in my real life.
But here's the thing.
So there's a couple things going on there.
First, I think that men can offer things beyond just their physical appearance.
So I can't speak to the specifics of the instances that you've seen.
Perhaps he's got charisma.
Perhaps he's offering something when it comes to financially.
Perhaps he's got status in some sort of way.
He's humorous.
Women find a wide variety of things in terms of being an attraction trigger.
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I know plenty of men who are attractive, high status, doctors, lawyers, and well-adjusted that struggle to get a lot of matches on the apps.
Standards, there are insane.
Yo, thank you, man.
Also, another point on this.
Women tend to have an over-inflated sense of their own physical attractiveness and the attractiveness of other women.
So, your assessment of your friend who you think is dating a mid-guy.
Also, so there's a, I'm trying to think what it is.
Men tend to rate women on a bell curve in terms of physical attractiveness.
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So you're 100% right.
So what ends up happening is women are able to get sexual access to men who are just, frankly, more physically attractive than them.
It could even be other things.
Like an average girl could get access to like an NFL player, NBA player.
They could date a guy who's rich.
You could be a 19-year-old girl in college dating a rich guy locally.
He might be a little bit older, but she has sexual access to that guy.
And so it makes them look at the men in their league and they're like, they feel like they're settling.
But in actuality, that's the guy in your league.
Women's league is the men who will give you commitment and a relationship in marriage.
Right.
And 100 years ago, that was all you got.
You didn't get the NFL player.
You didn't get Chad.
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It kind of sounds like in this situation, though, I'm not sure that I really agree with what you're saying, but it sounds like if that's true, then the problem is with men.
They need to raise their standards.
No, the problem is that when the sexual revolution happened and everybody decided we're just going to fuck everybody, instead of women deciding, okay, like this is my grandma's 98 and her mother taught her and her sister, look, you're going to have the best chance for getting a husband between 18 and 24.
So nail down the best guy that you can in those years and lock it up.
Except for me, because I had a glow up.
And it was confirmed on this podcast.
Well, well, okay.
But in general, it was like there wasn't this idea that they were going to fuck a bunch of hot chads that were never going to marry them and then they were going to have to settle for some guy that was in their range.
You know what I mean?
So like back in the day, you only had to choose from your local circle of guys that were in your town or your area unless you had an arranged marriage or something like that.
Now, what he's talking about is true.
Like women who are a four or a five at the bar will, you know, some guy who's just biding his time will take her home.
And they think that's the guy that they should be with.
And they hold every other guy they're with to that stand.
That's the only thing.
Well, then it sounds like these men should stop using mid women for sex.
Well, you wouldn't know they're just giving it away.
That's the thing.
Women are the gatekeepers of sex.
Men will fuck whoever they can fuck.
Women, the men should stop fucking whoever they want.
Well, that's nice to say, but that's not going to be a lot.
It's a small proportion of men compared to all the women.
It's all compared to the behavior of large scrolls.
Okay, but if this small group of attractive men stops fucking mid-women, it's why would they want to, though?
Men are supposed to be the leaders.
These great leaders who are going to lead us into this beautiful patriarchal utopia.
They're just getting at their fucking fives and sixes and there's not a patriarchal utopia, but let's think about this for a second.
Let's be objective and serious about it.
If you're a dude who's one of these top 1% and every woman you come across is spreading her legs and begging for it, are you not going to, you know, on a slow day go for it?
That's the way of the world.
Genghis Khan, everybody.
I don't know.
Anybody remember Genghis Khan?
If this is a problem, you as a woman, whether you like it or not, the responsibility is on women.
We are the gatekeepers of sex.
I don't need it because also I really don't want to be aware of that.
It's only true that I don't see why.
Our innocence and ability to.
Sex without permission is our that word.
Okay.
Yeah, I agree.
I mean, I agree.
I mean, jumping off that, yeah, it takes two people to have sex.
If there's a responsibility on women to stop batting out of their league, the men who are out of their league have a responsibility to turn them down.
Before birth control, before hormonal birth control and abortion, that's what women did.
We were very careful about who we let in the gate because the repercussions were really, really important and extreme, and you couldn't just go get a fetus deleted or whatever.
Right?
So, like, there was a women were very serious about who they picked.
Like, if I interviewed my grandma on my channel about how she chose her husband, and she said, Well, I thought about like, you know, can he support me and a bunch of kids?
Is his family nice?
Does he believe in the same things as me?
What church does he go to?
Does he have a good reputation?
Now, if you ask a girl, like these girls, right, they're like, whoever's going to plow me hardest in the back of a car is who I'm going to go for.
This is what happened.
I don't think that's true.
I think you have a really pessimistic worldview.
It's not a pessimistic worldview.
It's completely realistic.
People I know in real life think that way.
So y'all, you literally listen to me.
There's no repercussion.
There's no repercussion for women.
Literally, statistically, you girls are banging Chad.
That's who you're going for.
That's a weird thing to say.
It weirdly comes back down to having mutual respect for each other and everything else falls in place.
Well, hold on.
We just did this experiment on both.
We did.
We had, you said yes to one, yes to two.
You said zero.
I have a boyfriend.
He would be genuinely upset if he saw me see a guy's picture and say yes, and I have respect for my boyfriend.
So you said no to all those.
So you didn't see any attractive men there?
I mean, it's not disrespectful.
No, it's not disrespectful.
I can be objective and say that, yeah, I can look at someone else and find them attractive.
Out of 30.
Yeah, it's just the, it's the respect thing.
It's not like none of those men fit my physical standards.
I know you're trying to be respectful to your boyfriend, but like the whole point of it was like if you.
Okay, I'm sorry I messed up the experiment.
I'm trying not to get beat.
I'll even exclude you from it.
We had one.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
One.
No, no, five.
Oh, hold on.
Sorry, I got my numbers mixed up.
Five, I think it was one and then three.
And then she was the only one who's kind of reasonable at 10 out of 20.
So of the girls who did one or two, so two of 20, that would mean like 10%.
So if you, if, okay.
And some girls said once, that means they find only 5% of the men attractive.
And if they said two, 10% of the men.
In order for, if you only find 10% of the men attractive, essentially what you're saying is, I'm a nine.
Right.
If you only know, this just says, 10% of men are attractive.
You're basically saying I'm a nine.
No, this doesn't relate to real life.
This is on a, you're on camera.
You're being forced to look.
It's not perfect.
And I just fixed it.
It doesn't work.
I'm telling you that real people that I interact with in real life, and no one, literally no one I know thinks this way.
And we're all feminists.
Most people meet online.
Most people are meeting online.
Most people are using data.
Well, that's true.
I've seen my friends meet incredibly good men online.
If you ask most women, most of them say, yeah, like I only find 10% of the men on dating apps attractive.
I'm not a person.
I have not seen that layout in real life.
Women will say that.
Some men say, I find most men unattractive.
Yeah, I think it's something like 95% of the women all choose the 1% of the men.
Well, and let's pick a hyper attraction too because it's like, are you really going to sit here and tell me that you guys are like you guys are messing around with the dudes who are like fives or sixes?
Of course you're not.
Not my normalized meeting in person.
Here's the other thing though.
So when it comes to relationships, that's when women will settle a little bit.
Yeah.
But once they're 35.
Like it's because they're expired.
60 years old is now ready to settle down with a nice guy at 60 after you've already been through for your entire life.
Right.
But here's the difference.
Is that not what you're doing, bro?
Literally.
You're 34 and are you married?
It's different for guys.
He's not running through girls.
Right.
Yeah, I'm not.
I don't know that.
And also, men don't expire as fast as females.
You get to 25 and that's it.
It's just different.
That's not hold on.
No, it's true.
It's downhill.
It's downhill after 25.
Well, yes, there's a bit of a difference when it comes to peak and whatever, but hold on.
So, shit, I lost my train of class.
Damn it.
Oh, the differential is that, for example, for a woman to consider having a one-night stand, she will bend her rule.
Like, for example, she will, how do I frame this?
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Dating app data bears this out.
Women swipe right approximately on 2% of men per Tinder and in statistics.
Women are very picky on the apps.
This is based on hard data released.
There's definitely been a lot of data out there.
Just really quick, though, when it comes to more casual sex.
So women, if they're otherwise looking for a relationship, they will break their rule if the guy is attractive enough.
So, okay, normally I wouldn't do this, but he's really fucking hot.
I guess I'll have a one-night stand.
Whereas men, it's typically the opposite direction.
They're not holding out, I'll only have a one-night stand if she's super fucking hot.
No, it's like, I'll have a one-night stand when the option is okay enough.
It's also like the false sense of like ego, too.
Like, you know, like women, like, perceive themselves so highly, so they're like, oh, like, I'll do it for this one really attractive guy because he'll definitely beat me.
Like, I can definitely get him to be a little bit more.
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Okay, that's all women.
Okay, thank you, man.
I think here's one big difference.
So, as guys, if we can sleep with the girl, we can probably get that girl in a relationship.
It's not clear to me, as women, just because you can sleep with a guy does not necessarily mean you can get him into a relationship.
But do the reverse.
You can get him in a relationship.
You can probably sleep with him.
Wait, hold on.
So you said for men, it's that if they can get a girl in a relationship, they can probably sleep with her.
No.
As a guy, if we can sleep with a girl, we can probably get her in a relationship.
There's a good chance we can get her in a relationship.
Right, so for a girl, it's if she can get him in a relationship, she can probably sleep with him.
Well, yeah, that's not really.
No, I mean, not ever.
I like lots of people don't have sex in relationships.
Into a relationship, but women can sleep with almost any guy.
But no, but not if he's saving himself for marriage.
We have had girls that are 300 pounds sit on that side of the table and tell us about how they did 20 dudes.
But I think they're lying.
Well, they're not.
The men are lying.
Oh, no.
I sort of agree.
I don't know why you would have sex with a really obese person.
Because all of the really undesirable guys are gross.
That's all they're going to get.
It's not what?
No, it's not gross.
Like calling someone gross for that.
Like everyone has a type.
Some people like bigger people.
Some people like smaller people.
It's not gross.
That's like being like, oh, you're skinny.
You're all bone.
That's gross.
Like, banging someone's bones.
Like, what?
College up.
We got two.
So weird.
When I was younger and a rugby player built like a brick SH1 tea house and woman would throw themselves at me.
Me, a farm boy scared SH1 itless.
Now 47 and earning SH1 clothes, but way more picky.
Okay.
Thank you, Mujando.
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I'm sleeping with four women currently, and two of them have actively asked for a relationship with me in the past month.
Did you say no?
It's just biology.
Stop complaining about it.
We've only returned to animal nature.
Yeah.
You had something?
Yeah, I was just going to say, I don't just.
I think it is true that women can sleep with men who are more attractive out of their league that they couldn't necessarily get to date them.
What I'm saying is, I don't see how that fact relieves men of the responsibility in this situation.
I mean, I'm not saying women don't have any responsibility to stop doing it, but I think that I don't know why it all falls on women.
Why does it always have to be the men, though?
I'm literally saying there's no responsibility on men to not sleep with women below their level.
Okay, like women are not afraid of their men.
If they're not Christian men, why would they give a shit?
Like, honestly, if they're not Christian, why would they care?
I don't know why.
I'm saying maybe we should tell them to care.
Maybe we should be sweet.
Okay, but men.
From your agnostic, so from like a secular worldview, why not spread?
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Okay.
Yo, final wave feminism.
Thank you.
I'm just saying, it sounds like from your perspective, men are only hurting themselves by doing this.
So if men are really just uncontrollable animals that can't stop their urges, it brings me back to this.
We're talking about men like they're a monolith.
And what we're what I've talked about women like they're monolithic.
No, I've been trying to tell.
Here's the difference.
I've been trying to tell you, women don't really have a hierarchy.
We just compete for men.
Men have a hierarchy.
So there's always like these top alpha guys that are miles ahead of everybody else.
And there's a large proportion at the bottom.
So you can't just throw men together and say, why do men do this?
Well, the top guys are going to do what they can and do what they want.
If nobody's a hierarchy in terms of women competing for men, that's just crazy.
There's absolutely a hierarchy of women competing for men.
I said they're it.
The only hierarchy females have is our competition for the best man.
Other than that, there is no female hierarchy.
So the male hierarchy is what?
The male hierarchy is this alpha competition similar to wolves, similar to apes, where men compete to be at the top, and whoever the top of the hierarchy, the power that's a little certain power.
It's not circular.
What is the hierarchy?
What do they mean in terms of dating?
That's what she means.
She means what in all of society.
So, like, who gets to the top of the power structure?
Who gets to mate with the best females?
Yes.
The president, the gang, the gang.
Joe Biden.
But that doesn't deal with the men.
Joe Biden.
Young Joe Biden.
Yeah.
You would go to town.
He was out of physical attractions.
That's her pass.
It's through all of society.
So you could look at government.
You could look at gangs.
How does a male get to be the head of the gang?
He's the top alpha.
He's the most dangerous.
He's the one who has beaten out all the other men to be on top.
Men have an extremely competitive hierarchy.
Rachel wasn't dangerous.
Rachel, what?
You were gang.
You were in a gang.
Oh, was it the same gang that with the capital that they charge the capital?
Was that the gang?
Anyways, guys, we're going to do a brief.
The TTS has been lowered to 25.
Brief chaos roast section.
Then we're going to wrap up the show.
What?
Get your.
Yeah, it's going to be a roast six.
Roast.
So, guys, do a brief roast session.
Then we're going to wrap the show.
It's been a good show, guys.
I hope.
Also, like the video, guys.
Drop a like on the video.
Help us out with the algorithm.
The TTS should be lowered.
Should be lowered.
I am assuming here.
Let me just double check, make sure it's all good.
I've got a question for you.
Yeah.
Wait, did you say your last name when you introduced yourself?
Do I have to say my last name?
You don't have to?
Stuff 456 donated $25.
Hey, girl in the Let's Dance shirt with a thousand cards there.
You are a perfect example of why people should stay away from college.
You spent thousands of dollars to become dumber.
She didn't spend it.
Her dad did.
You're going to get it interrupted a lot.
Michigan Christian donated $25.
We are replacing men with gov, and it's evident in voting.
Women equals more gov, EA.
Socialism.
Men equals less, EA.
Liberty.
This country was founded on limited governed women.
You can say nice comments, too.
Lol Paladins donated $25.
We are all animals.
I'm a seven, but I sleep with the twos and threes that the real top 1% men ignore.
That's how I get to choose a lot of people.
Are there any Pentecostals on the ground?
Rito, please donated $25.
Celeste is the hottest girl on the panel.
Will you be my big Ten Goth girlfriend?
Will you be his big titty goth girlfriend?
I'm fucking dead.
Are you goths?
Did you consider yourself a female?
Do you consider yourself goths?
I'd consider yourself before your femme nipples crawl out.
Complaining about older men?
Your vibe says, I want Vlad the Impaler, he's older.
Several hundred years.
Vlad the Impaler.
Nick, Wikipedia, Vlad the Impair, please.
6-9-6-9-6-9-blah-blah-blah-69-donated-25-dolls.
Here we go.
Dane that Leonardo dude was annoying as fuck.
Brian, I thought you didn't allow guys on the podcast.
I guess they got a past due to being a FTM.
Riley said she saw the bulge.
Lull.
Did you see the money?
The top of the sexual marketplace.
The men who are able to sleep with the most women.
They are the ones sleeping around, not the average guy.
They won't stop because they don't have to.
Real Trump donated $25.
Thank you, Real Trump.
Brian, the girl in the red sweater looks like the villain Bomb Voyage from that movie The Incredibles with that big fucking chin.
Nick, I beg you, pull up a picture.
No, don't do it, Nick.
Bucklass donated $35.
The girl in blue with glasses is a virgin.
Brian, let's please find a holy Bible for her to swear on to show she's truly a virgin.
Until then, she's a strumpet.
Strump is Watson donated $25.
Rachel Wilson, may all of your two children and three bastards die in your hands in terrible suffering.
Your 304 mom should have aborted you.
You and Andrew are the most disgusting family I ever saw in my life.
I told you I had Mr. Bullet donated $25 from the Grand Inquisitors whatever podcast communication liaison compliments Brian on a great podcast.
Thank you very much.
You two heretic.
We need a new Sunday.
You're supposed to be here.
Literally.
Oh, you got food.
Nicole Odeon donated $25.
For the chicken communications, I'll teach you the only thing you need to know.
This is a good sport.
Do you want fries with that?
But it was roasted.
Without you, Claire, it was a dull affair.
I wish I could have been there.
That's Carly.
Oh, my God.
To the blame.
You could have corrected me.
You have more flip-flops than Swiss New Deal.
It was a dull affair without Carly.
Why does your logic only apply for women?
Accountability cope.
Blame all men.
Gotcha.
GMD Jim donated $25.
To the Strumpet telling Rachel to be more Christ-like.
Weak Christians try that shite all the time to shut down strong Christians.
Christ chased out the money changers with a whip.
Hashtag get the whip.
Get the whip?
Dia Mario Sandoval donated $25.
Let Stance open her mind.
The male hierarchy is like the elks that battle for breeding rice.
What do you not understand?
It's like the elf.
Various crazy people donated $25.
To only frames, plastic Barbie, what happened to your lenses?
BTW, high-value men don't let thea women go on monly vans.
Those guys are cool.
I take them out because of the generic statue donated $25.
Love the show, Brian.
Thanks for shining a light on the bed bugs.
Great to see you on the show, Rachel.
Beautiful and smart.
W Andrew.
Yo, thank you.
Thank you, generic statue.
696969.
Blah blah, blah69 donated 25 dollars.
Julio you turkey, you can't roast me.
I'm not a turkey.
Godly old woman.
Roulette donated twenty five dollars.
There's a turkey.
There's a happy mr comedian that had to keep reminding us that she was telling jokes.
I thought she was funny.
I thought she was funny too.
I thought she was.
I thought she was really funny.
Desert JOE donated twenty five dollars to the BETA Simps in the chat.
Stop it.
Desert Joe, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Thank you, dude.
You're a legend and a scholar.
Is it all done?
No, we're not.
Chip thread shirt to find husband.
Shut up.
Suck it a little.
He might kick you around.
Bronx chick not funny.
Typical woman.
Rachel Earth the goat.
Great job.
I am working on gentleness.
Stud 456 donated $25.
The strumpet is Satan's favorite instrument.
It goes our gar when you blow into it.
Lady of the evening.
A lady of the evening.
You can't rely on the TTS.
Anonymous donated $24.50.
Trailer Swift won't pick a bumble date, but will bang Lost Joe.
Also, Julia should chill with wearing red.
She looks like the Crimson Chin.
W Rachel.
W Brain.
Various crazy people donated $25.
To the middle linebacker, Deborah Stan, H Auto Rep and Trump stories.
Politely arguing the exceptions will really work to move society forward.
Black Shepherd donated $25.
Let's Dance Shirt Girl is disingenuous, obviously manipulating language against anyone not aligned with her beliefs, so she thinks she's always right.
By the way, she's an extreme tribalist and cultural Marxist.
There is a three-minute delay at the end of the day.
Moonchina donated $25.
I said Loads and judged Lohan's, but I do appreciate you all stepping up and discussing these issues as one.
Discord people with different views.
Something your government can't seem to do.
Why didn't you correct me?
Rachel was in a gang, gangbang with her four baby daddies.
I bet you and that Pills Burrido boy stand in front of a mirror and compare each other to probably be sharing bloods.
Where did you find that?
You're from the hard stream.
Various crazy people donated $25.
Ya Zeppelin.
A Gen Z Led Zeppelin tribute band singing their greatest hits with nastily inflection.
Ya Zeppelin?
Singing the with they're talking about my previous show.
Rachel, do you do blow jobs to your husband?
Rachel, gluck gluck gluck gluck, Gluckazi.
Cam donated twenty five dollars from seven six, you haven't been roasted.
Six, you haven't.
Nine six ten, you haven't roasted six, you only got left.
Not even if she were the last female on earth.
All right, there you go.
Real Trump donated twenty five dollars.
Led Zeppelin t-shirt girl is a band for sure.
I'm getting a chubby just watching her.
To the tattooed girl, I wish my lawn was an emo like you and cut itself.
What the Smoking patriot donated twenty five dollars, chick in the red shirt is what men have to look forward to when they say look in the church.
No wonder why men are running to a throdoxy for foundation.
do you want to respond in your mom's basement rachel wilson flipped more than an apartment in fort lauderdale slammed more times than a taxi door seen more helmets than hitler and last but not least she has a posse like a punched lasagna a posse donated twenty six dollars respect to all Heard more from Penelope crew, daughter and Marion Manson.
Daughter did good.
Rachel, you did great.
Brain, did you have a stroke?
You can't say my name yet.
David Treziak?
That's right, yeah.
707 donated $25.
My dog passed a week ago.
He was more loyal and reliable than the girls on the panel.
Minus Mrs. Wilson.
Let that sink in.
Feminism has failed you.
Termiatops 4 donated $25.
How do you say your name again?
Blue shirt and glasses, you helping guys with your OF is like a meth dealer saying they are helping their customers.
Corn is detrimental to mental health if you legitimately didn't know.
Now you do quit OF.
Yeah, quito out.
Ember tech donated $25.
Great group tonight.
Girl in black that left was my favorite.
She's the goat.
My wife raised me to a higher moral standard and I'm happier because of it.
She's of not an 11, lol troll.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
696969.
Blah blah, blah.
69 donated 25 dollars.
Not true?
all remember when Brian disappeared he was in the back it's true not fake news cable donated $25 Brian, why didn't you address the Quasi Modo and Chief Bevo Drummer?
I'll do it right before the end.
I've got more cough drops for you, if needed.
Your lazy eyed red turtle neck the shirt doesn't hide the giraffe neck.
It's long and beautiful.
Doge Thought Patrol.
69 donated 25 dollars.
Riley, you are nothing more than the hot version of just grifty things.
Rachel, your book was great.
My only criticism is that you didn't talk about the enough.
Someone sent a compliment was Watson donated twenty five dollars.
Please, Rachel.
Jennings, you claim women shouldn't have bank accounts.
Then why you're receiving the money from subscriptions of your husband's website Thecristable.video, on your own bank account?
Uh, we have joint.
The only bank accounts we have are joint.
So Andrew's son Glocktavius, donated twenty five dollars.
I told you were Christian, Rachel.
That's crazy.
You let Andrew throw me away like Daisy threw away fresh baby.
He went out for Newbort and never came back.
Okay, Moochina donated twenty five dollars.
Thank you, mate.
Not sure if you lucky or in the hot pot, but a single man surrounded by beautiful woman is like a wet dream.
I had once smile.
I did enjoy this, but I found myself frustrated, just like that dream word, Andrew reminds me of Kevin O'leary, fakes being a asshole to bring in more views.
Okay, does Andrew fake being an asshole?
No, he just he's an asshole to people who deserve it.
Killer OF Cereal, donated 25 dollars.
Cereal where the fucking entire stream.
But I love your face.
Where you been dude, get some.
Get some, stay hydrated, stay alive, keep your life in perspective, live within your means, kill us and never let a 300 and you have w's in the chat for KILL OF Cereal.
I haven't seen this guy in months.
Yo, thank you for the bits, appreciate it uh.
KILL OF Cereal where you been dude, we missed you.
Dude, we missed you.
Stochastic Decay, donated 25 dollars.
Riley is your nickname Alexa, because every time you talk it sounds like i'm getting a response from a smart speaker.
So many canned responses it's hard believe you're not a grifter hashtag.
Where is Gustavo?
That's crazy.
We he might be back.
Pineapple porn and pizza, no no no, I love.
That's crazy.
That's my worst take.
That's crazy.
Jaikarino 97 donated $69.
Why cannot people just take the men?
The the men.
I don't get it.
Why cannot people just take the the men?
The men.
Just take them.
Take the men where?
To the strip club?
What are you talking about?
Just to church.
Just take them.
Take them to church.
I fucking hate that band.
What's that band?
Oh, my God.
New to roasting, but let's give it a go.
These girls took more head than a guillotine.
I'm sorry, smile.
Just not yours.
Thank you, Magina.
By the way, you have donated $25.
Riley, has anyone ever told you you look like Katie Kush?
You just say winking face.
Am I dumb for not knowing who that is?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Katie Kush.
Does anyone know?
It's a T-Star.
Wes Watson donated $25 to Rachel and all Red Pill by Aches.
The one and only reason historically men have reproduced less than women is because men have died young in the wars before even get a chance to reproduce.
Pause.
Boss.
Is anybody else?
I'm not Red Pill.
I'm not traditional and not conservative or compliment me.
Or compl Yeah.
Yeah.
Wait, would you ask someone so anyone has a roast?
Oh, come on.
Has a roast.
Okay.
Well, you gotta give him a second.
I want to thank Wes Watson for being my biggest fan and the biggest donator to the show, though.
Appreciate the support.
Rekka, what you got for us?
You got a story for us?
Nicole Odion donated 25.
Yo, Nikolai.
I don't know what hurts more.
Listening to Riley lie about being a virgin, or other blondes stumble through arguments like she still has a concussion from when Andrew backhanded after her last debate.
Wow.
Real Trump donated $25.
You did good in the middle of the day.
Let's dance, girl.
Thanks for voting for Joe Biden.
Thanks to you, no one can afford a house, grocery, gas, or anything else.
America deserves an apology from dumb dumbs like you.
Please move to Canada.
Canada?
Send $500 for $25.
Only girl that deserves a compliment is Celeste.
I don't really have.
I don't think I can do that.
Only girl that deserves a compliment is Celeste.
Was this the big Tite goth guy?
Or is that a different person who's a different person?
Are you got a child?
Can't believe people are simping over Down syndrome, Jennifer Garner.
What do you bench?
Can't believe people are simping over Down syndrome.
Jennifer Garner.
Who's Jennifer Garner?
I think that's actually really good.
She likes it.
I like it.
I'll take it.
I'll take it.
Jennifer Garner's side of it.
Yeah.
Isn't that the girl from the Val?
There's the girl from 13 going on 30.
Nikol, we'll look at it.
It does all the.
If you want the TTS to trigger, it can't be through YouTube.
It's got to be through Streamlabs.
And we're not doing any reads.
But hey, NyCall, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Wes Watson donated $25.
Rachel Jennings, I'm not a woman.
Where have you seen a woman to curse like that?
Leave that.
What about that?
We must appreciate women.
You didn't said nothing about my actual statement.
All I heard was woman prattle, sorry.
Killing a serial donated $25.
Brian, I've been exploring the last known frontier in search of that bear in the forest.
The last known frontier.
I guess me and the others I was with would be the men.
Would you rather run into a bear or tour group in Woods?
Tour group?
Obviously.
Obviously.
I think that was for the whole panel, but I'm trying to think of something related to the men or the bear thing.
Would you rather Michigan Christian donated $25?
Ravenhair, men don't want to assume duty because they're getting free sex.
Some, but others don't want to assume duty because women are giving free sex.
Women aren't marriageable anymore.
Hashtag modesty.
Okay.
Paincakes donated $25.
Mediocre body with a cute face versus hot body with a may face.
This is for both both men and women here.
Mediocre body.
Cute face.
Mediocre body with a cute face.
Oh shit.
Stephanie.
And Andrew.
He's got to make the peak body over face.
He's got to make the peak cute.
I'm going with the cute face.
Face.
You can fix the body.
Amen.
Can't fix the face.
Plus, like, you know, that'll be your genetic legacy, too.
Like, you know, the kids might not turn out that way.
Rex.
Rexa?
Reika.
Oh, my God.
Rex.
People call me Rakes.
That's okay.
Rakes?
Rakes.
You can call me Reikes.
Rakes?
Yeah.
Yo, chat.
Do you want us to hire her as second helmet girl?
Are you down?
Do you know what?
Hold on, can I?
Stop the body counts, donated $25.
It takes two to tango.
Women are the gatekeepers, men are the leaders.
Slow shame women are there's nothing cool about jeopardizing future marriages for short-term selfish funds.
We're gonna hire you as cable donated $25.
Yeah, thank you, Cable.
Wes Watson 6 when he peas.
I agree.
Tilt it down a little bit.
She's struggling a little bit.
It might be HaHa 304 donated $25.
Red dress here is your compliment more of a tip.
Christians don't get flown out for a blown-out do better.
Okay.
Do better, I guess.
Yo, guys, what do you think?
Is it good?
Second helmet girl?
It's kind of blocking your eyes a little bit.
I don't know what this means.
Killer of cereal donated $25.
Good luck for you.
What I meant was: would you rather run into a tour group made up of bears, or a single man with a freshly decapitated bear head on as a helmet?
Oh, and he's butt naked.
Clap trap 420 donated $25.
I'm a male nurse.
I get shit on.
By how many times I get told you get the agitated 250 plus, probably 400 pound patient.
Where are they?
At least I know who doesn't bow, but will suck my dick.
What the frick?
Real Trump donated $25.
Led Zeppelin girl looking fine as hell.
Would you like to date a man who owns an HVAC company in Nevada?
Our kids would be beautiful.
And now she's wearing the Hitler helmet.
She just got hot.
It's World War One.
It's not a Hitler helmet.
For Dance Shirt Girl, it's a story gender theory.
Can that be applied to anything?
Why is it difficult for your people to not know who a woman is, but can tell if a dog is a male or female easily?
Kim Jong unbelievable donated $25.
I really like her long neck.
It's kind of a thing of mine.
It's hard to find.
I'm into men, so she gives me that masculine vibe, and I could try it, but her comments were annoying.
Okay.
696969.
It really took a turn there.
I'm afraid.
$69 donated $25.
Wes Watson seems like he's really familiar with gargling nuts.
Is that what that sounds like?
Okay.
Okay.
What do you think?
How are you liking being the helmet girl?
I don't know what it means.
Honestly, I've never seen the show before.
Oh, no.
So it's a World War I military helmet.
So World War II was like the bad Germans or whatever.
Yeah.
So, yeah, don't worry.
We're not getting you into trouble or anything.
But you're leaving, right?
You're going back.
We're trying to hire a second helmet girl.
Like, hire?
If you're going to pay me, I'll stay.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
We'll talk after the show.
For real?
Yeah, let's talk after the show.
Okay.
Shit.
I'm down.
Granny's box is not.
Lucky, luck luck.
Another night without a cuck.
I tuned in late.
Grandpa needed a blank blank.
I've been getting his rocks and now I hate it.
Huge fan, Miss Wilson.
Anytime breaks.
Okay, panel.
Thank you, man.
Sorry about my body and mind, Mrs. Wilson.
I'm a skinny single man who's a V not by choice.
Not to mention him kind of following me for a little bit.
Ignore everything else Wes says.
We are collectively a loser.
Luge and donated $25.
You Americans are efforting weird.
Where are you from, bro?
Where are you from?
Where you claim, bro?
Watch out.
Rachel will come get you, dude.
Don't talk shit on America.
I'm proud to be an American.
How's that fucking song going?
You're on your own, Brian.
Not singing the song.
It is Memorial Day.
Almost.
Is it Memorial Day?
It was yesterday.
It was yesterday.
What do you guys think?
I like the backwards hat.
Should I start rocking the fucking backwards hat boys?
Look at that, it's got a little...
What is that?
The Bill?
Brian's entering his F-boy era with the backwards hat.
Well, typically that would be more like this.
Aren't the F boys kind of like?
I don't even know.
Maybe in 2008.
Yeah, I was going to say that's sort of old-fashioned.
A little retro at the same 2000s.
Wait, okay, where were we?
I think we're going to, I'll try to get through the wrap-up here.
Probably a few more will trickle in, but let's see here.
I'm going to talk about the Bevo drama really quick.
Also, let me see if there's anything else.
Before I get into it, I want to thank the entire panel.
You guys were honestly one of the best panels we've had in a really long time.
I know there were disagreements and heated moments, but I thought it was a good idea.
Y'all were dope.
I had a green card for the USA, IT, but so Fuart King, glad I did not make it there.
Do you speak Afrikaans?
Do you speak Afrikaans?
Would you like the Spring Boss?
These girls are picking on dating apps because most men are unattractive, including you, Brian, you fate.
Hey.
Hey.
Yeah, I gotta lose a bit of weight.
SL underscore I dot D dot underscore 78 C7.
B donated $25.
It's gonna be West Church and Watson.
Don't pee out in public.
Holding a child's peen is illegal.
Wow, Huge.
Wow, wow.
Huge.
Okay.
Thank you.
That was interesting.
So, okay, the Bevo shit.
So, the guy, Bevo, was like a week ago, exactly.
We had him on.
He made a video because he got, I mean, he didn't have a great performance on the show.
Apparently, I don't know the whole details of it.
I guess people were hating on him.
I don't know.
Maybe that, I think that's just his thing.
He made a video trying to do damage control and in an egregious, malicious.
When Trump donated $25, Brian, Hitler did fight in World War II, so technically it is his helmet done.
I think she's the hottest girl you've had on the show.
I'm simping hard for her right now.
Oh, she's gorgeous.
You want to see her?
Simping.
Stop simping.
That's really nice.
Thank you.
Hottest girl we've had on the show.
Was Watson donated $25.
Cable and Rachel, you forgot to mention that I'm peeing in your 304 mom's mouths.
Who's cable?
696969 blah blah 69.
I know it from your Strumpet mom.
I just had an epiphany.
You are a virgin in Shell Simp.
Die virgin.
I just, guys, before I get into the Bevo shit, Bevo challenge you to a boxing fight.
Boom.
Yes.
Let's go.
It'll give me a good excuse to get into shit.
Do it, Brian.
Do it.
Bevo.
Boxing fight.
We're about the same height.
Let's do it.
We're going to fucking box, bro.
Okay, so he made this video, egregious, malicious, pathetic attempt to.
Okay, let me explain.
Noticommunist donated $25.
Bricks is fat and gay.
You're right about the first part, okay?
I'm sitting next to you and you're not fat.
I got a dad bod.
I got a bit of a dad bod.
I think that's very nice, Rachel.
Just call me a fatty, okay?
Just call me a.
I need to lose some weight.
I need to look.
I got to lose a little bit of weight.
Stress seating.
All right.
So he made this video, attempts to throw me under the bus by falsely accusing me of staging the whole him being a cuck thing.
Right.
Majuna.
This reminds me of the magic trick I know when I was a nine priest.
Asked me if I could.
Oh, bro, what the fuck?
Damn, bro.
What?
He showed me jazz hands and said that's magic.
Huge simp donated $25.
New helmet girl is the most attractive girl on the show.
Wow.
W New Helmet Girly.
Yes.
They like you.
I'm not.
Okay.
Thank you.
That's so sweet.
Thank you.
Yeah.
So, okay, back to this.
Back to this Bevo thing.
Falsely accuses me of staging the whole him being a cuck thing.
Here are the facts.
He wasn't even scheduled to be on the show.
We had his girlfriend on the schedule.
But he shows up anyway.
$25.
On the reel, though, I've been following this podcast for the past one.
You're an OG.
You're an OG, dude.
Been a huge fan.
Thank you, man.
Keep red pilling the 34.
We use Strumpets.
We don't say 304.
We use Strumpy.
Cable donated $25.
End of story.
Didn't know about that about Wes Bleach is his book.
Shut up.
Queer.
Hey, A. Be nice.
Be nice.
Oh, we have somebody coming in here.
Clap Trial 420 donated $25.
I'm a based male.
Hold on.
I got a degree that would be better if males nominated the field.
Males in nursing.
Guys, I'm going to pause.
I just paused it.
I'm going to pause it for three minutes just so I can get through the thing.
If you have any come through, they'll come through as soon as I'm done with this.
Okay, so a couple facts.
He wasn't scheduled to be on the show.
His girlfriend was scheduled to be on the show, but he shows up anyways.
And we specifically tell people, like, hey, we don't let people behind the scenes or anything like that.
After she asked multiple times if he could come on, like we had one no-show or something.
And so we finally accommodated it and agreed to let him on.
We have security cameras throughout the entire studio.
He claims that I went up to him and had a conversation and was like, yo, you should pretend to be a cuck.
No.
At no point, and we have security camera proof.
I don't know if I'm going to, I'm not going to distribute this tonight, but if he pushes it, I'll distribute it.
At no point do I ever even have a conversation with him before the show.
I'm running around getting everything ready.
You guys all saw me tonight.
Did I have a conversation with any of you before the show?
I'm dealing with stuff behind the scenes.
I'm getting cameras ready, getting the stream ready.
I don't talk to people before the show.
Also, in addition to that, we have multiple witnesses from that show who can attest that I had no private conversation with Bevo before the show.
As he was leaving, he admits he was trolling us, as in the show.
It would have.
It occurs to me that if I put him up to it, he would have said that I was somehow in on it, which he never said.
After the show, he begs us to put his Instagram in the description, which I refuse because his girl tried to get us on some TOS shit by playing with her titties, even though we specifically told her not to, and that he came on to troll and waste our time.
Furthermore, I had Instagram messages with him.
He deleted all the messages that he sent me, where he apologized for trolling us, because I refused to include his IG in the description, and that he said he intentionally did it for content because that's what they do in the UK.
By the way, he deleted all his DMs with me, so I can't show you proof that he was lying.
He deleted all his DMs.
Bevo, I hope that nobody ever falsely accuses you of something.
You're a pathetic sloth for being a liar and falsely accusing someone.
I don't care if you talk shit, but it really irks me when people lie.
So, no issue with you talking shit.
You can say we suck, we're assholes, whatever.
Don't falsely accuse somebody and lie because it's really damaging when people lie and make false accusations.
I hope nobody ever falsely accuses you of anything, but I don't know, man.
You reap what you sow.
So, anyways, that's pretty much it for the Bevo thing.
I'm going to let these chats that came through.
Sorry, guys, I had to pause it temporarily so I could get through it.
Oh, a MAGA hat would look way better on the entire panel.
Throwing a ball in your cereal here before close.
What's your opinion on the Second Amendment?
For it.
I forgot to say.
Bevo, challenge you to a boxing match.
Boom.
Done.
Easy.
Okay.
Sorry, guys.
Let me.
Okay, that was it.
And we have a couple coming.
A few more chats, then we're going to wrap up the show.
Bevo donated $25.
If I'm too much of a coward to tell my girl to stop fucking other guys, can somebody role play?
Roleplays, Bevo.
That'd be so funny.
Well, Paladins donated $25.
New helmet girl.
I've got a few Porsches if you want to upgrade from that Caddle Act.
Shit, are you serious?
Oh, damn.
Okay.
Hit me up.
My Instagram is Reikonichi.
Yeah, I'll say my last one.
$6,969 number 2 donated $25.
Emo girl on the right can get it whenever we should start a ritual after the show.
Smile.
You want to do a little kiss into that?
$49 Minesso R to underscore Weiser donated $25.
The only thing Wes Watson knows for sure is what is Selly's spit what felt like hutting his back while faking orgasm as Wes was bent over the Kraputake in it trading his Vor and BJs for soups and cakes Brain Tombs Donated $25.
Her neck is longer than my peen, and I like it.
I'd love to make some risotto and enjoy a nice evil.
Please send me the pen.
I am painting a painting of you.
Do you ride a bicycle?
What the fuck?
Totally not Walter donated $25 to the red flag wearing the red.
He paid to fly you out.
You dropped the bomb that you were celibate.
You wonder why he's mad?
Question for gals.
Would you rather be in the forest with simp or bear?
Simper Bear?
Wow, God donated $25.
Brian is rocking that wow classic physique around all these stumpets with no FKs given.
How dirty is your keyboard?
So that Brits' teeth looked like Jim Kerry's in the mask movie.
Bevo underscore the underscore cup donated $25.
Any men out there want to fuck my girl?
Unlike most of y'all, I'm okay with my woman taking dick from other men because I'm a truly secure, masculine man.
While Paladins donated $25.
I was serious about the Porsche.
I was also serious about the 100-plus body cap.
It's not complicated.
You all saw her eyes light up as soon as she saw that message.
Moojina donated $25.
You Americans are silly sometimes, idiots, saying then Second Amendment can't be changed.
So why Foo at King Callit Amendment?
I don't know, Rachel.
Do you have desert underscore Eagle donated $25?
Brian, don't ever bring that neo-Nazi trash Leonardo back on your show.
Tell her to keep her Nazi scum confined to an anime profile in the chat or she will get dealt with in Los Angeles.
Bevo donated $25.
I just got done letting Rick plow my GF.
I would take you on, but her boyfriend won't let me.
He said he will bend me over and spank me if I do.
Word?
Word?
Alright, there might be a few more that trickle in, but it's about that time.
Any final thoughts before I wrap things up?
Speak now forever.
Hold your peace.
Peace.
Okay, cool.
So we're gonna do Twitch raid, and then we have it set up.
We will be sending-is Andrew still watching, I think?
He's doing Andrew.
Sorry, we forgot about last time.
Wes Watson donated $25.
Cable and all other haters in the chat, I BT you all on illegal boxing matches to see if you will dare to talk to me like that in my face.
The next super chats you send, give me your date, time and place.
Wow, he's really only donated $25.
The girl with glasses saying girls with tattoos look trashy.
Well, the tattoo girl is so much more desirable than you.
Do you guys want to debate that really quick?
The tattoo.
Real Trump donated $25.
Led Zeppelin, fuck the porch.
I've got a Corvette with your name on it.
Rachel, I know I'm simping.
Leave me alone.
I've never seen a girl this attractive on the show before.
I'm sprung.
49 Mate Miss Ordo underscore Wiser donated $25.
A standing prison joke is: how do you tell if your Sally fakes orgasm?
He spits on your back.
Wes Watson's only first-hand knowledge.
Okay.
By the way, Nick, for Twitch, we'll do Woe Grandma tonight.
And then, really quick, last thing.
What's your body count?
Mine?
Well, I'm going to ask everybody.
We'll go, everybody.
Cable donated $25.
Moojina, come and get them.
Wes, seed, and cope, twink.
Now they're it's like there's a fight between the TTSers.
They're talking shit to each other now.
I'm on cable's team, obviously.
TMO donated $25.
Hey, Brian, how is your neck nowadays?
Did you get it from the Gluck Gluck?
Look, I got some neck pain, some back pain.
Not from the Gluck Luck.
Don't do that.
But thank you.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you.
Body count?
I don't really like, I don't know.
I don't want to disclose it, but I will say that it's over 50.
Mm-hmm.
Do you want to give a range then?
Like 50 to 60 or something like that?
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of hard to know what my.
I don't really know what my body count is, to be honest, because like I.
And sorry, what's your age again?
I'm 22.
22, okay.
Yeah, no, I've been into fuzzy.
By the way, I'm pausing the TTS for just a moment.
How do you call it?
I mean, I was sex trafficked at like 18 and 19.
So that's why I'm saying it's kind of hard to like dive into.
Wait, like you were, if you don't mind me asking, can you vaguely how?
I was trafficked by older men that they would try to put me in.
Like, did you have a pimp?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
This was like prostitute.
But was it voluntary?
No.
Well, the last time I did, the last time was voluntary, but it was also a weird situation.
I thought I was going onto like Sexy Jobs' website to go into porn.
But actually, this guy who said he was a manager for like porn and stuff wasn't actually a manager and stuff.
But that one I would say was more voluntarily because I knew I was getting myself into the other times.
It was not involuntarily.
It was by not by choice.
All right.
Body count?
I don't want to answer that question.
Do you want to do range?
If you don't want to give exact range, range, it's under five.
Okay.
One.
Under five.
Wait, is this your current boyfriend?
It's the same that you weren't.
We've actually actually known each other since we were 12.
So.
Actually, it might not.
I mean, you guys are the same age, right?
What's the same age?
Wait, what was it?
Less than five.
Zero.
Right, right.
Serious.
Riley, we went over this.
Not serious.
We went over this.
Stop the cat.
It's not cat.
I'm serious.
That's why I stick to anal sex.
Is it true, Riley?
No, no, I don't know.
Is it true?
I won't even.
No, no, no.
That thing scares me for real.
What about you?
Like five.
Like five?
Okay.
So it could be like six or like four.
It's around five, yeah.
Around five, okay.
What about you?
Under five.
Under five?
Zero.
Zero.
I'm a married lady, but it's very low.
You can count it on one hand.
I'm also a married lady, so I don't disclose my body.
Yeah.
All right, cool.
So we're going to do a quick raid, then we're going to wrap up the show.
Those of you watching on Twitch, very much appreciate it.
Really quick, Nick, pull up the Twitch.
Guys, drop us a follow on Twitch.
Drop us a Prime sub if you have one.
Twitch.tv/slash whatever.
Drop us a follow in the Prime sub.
Oh my guys, it's been 33 minutes since the last Prime.
Is it broken?
Can somebody just test?
Guys, I think our Twitch is bugged.
Please, somebody just test it out.
Is a Prime working?
Thank you for all the follows.
I'll just shout out a couple of you just here at the end.
RX, thank you for the follow.
That's a tier one.
That doesn't count.
Ashton, thank you for follow.
Okay, De Baby Wolf.
Thank you for the prime.
Oh, thank you for the primes, guys.
Debaby Wolf OG, thank you for the prime.
Third wolf down.
Thank you for the prime.
Timmy the Turtle, you're a fucking G. Think for the Prime.
John Stiffler, thank you for the follow, dude.
Or sorry, Turtle.
Thank you for the follow.
Dark Lighter 1, thank you for the follow.
Okay, I think our primes are working.
Oh, Esgerd, thank you for helping us test this out.
Thank you for the prime.
Appreciate it.
Twitch.tv slash whatever.
Drops a follow, drops the prime sub.
Thank you for the watching on Twitch.
We are going to do a raid.
GG, GG.
Well played to the panel.
Last call.
Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
Whoops, got to get these TTSs in.
My bad.
Clap trap for the face of the face.
It's back on $220.
It fooked, you non-based lips.
I'm a veteran.
Because of that, I got my hand gun carry permit at 18-year-old.
Would you date me?
Yeah, man.
Desert Joe donated $25.
To the white African, the Second Amendment is what has kept the U.S. from descending into total tyranny.
Yes, we're on the brink thanks to woke lefties fucking up the world.
But we'll restore civility soon.
Fox, one actual donated $25.
The Let's Dance chick is your typical feminist 10 PC bot.
Gross.
Do you want to respond?
Is that really going to be the last one?
No, I think I'm actually GMD Jim donated $25.
To quote the great Charlton Heston, I'll give you my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hands.
Based?
Word.
Rito, please donated $25 celeste.
Body count don't change anything.
Offer still stands.
He can fix you.
I can save you.
Beautiful.
Boom.
There you go.
Yo, Rita, please.
Thank you, man.
All right, GG.
Well played to the panel.
Last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out.
Thank you for tuning in tonight.
Could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
I appreciate that.
Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
Your patronage is greatly appreciated.
Thank you, guys.
Really means the world.
Couldn't do the show without your guys's support and patronage.
So thank you.
We will be live again Sunday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
Got some great shows lined up.
We will get Andrew Wilson back in June.
We have some good guests lined up.
We got Q, we got Natalie Winters.
You guys really like her.
Be on the lookout for that in these next coming shows.
Any girls who want to be on the show, donated $25.
Rachel, you're from the devil's team.
You and Andrew are the most fake wannabe pretending Christians I ever saw in my entire fucking life.
You both don't do what you preach.
Full of shit.
Okay.
Demonstrate that, you little bitch, and send Brian all your money.
Nick, can you pull up?
We're going to do a raid for Twitch.
Woah grandma.
Guys, she's 82.
Be nice, guys.
She's awesome.
She's got like two rule in Hell and Svnovan donated $26.
Welcome back.
To two-girl hella banging.
Hella bang.
Nobody actually cares about body count.
Brian Watson, hiding behind I'm a man of God shows her insecurity as a virgin.
I'm a virtue.
These girls are virtually honest and you're a troll.
I've never kissed a girl.
I'm a virgin.
I know I'm insecure, guys.
My bad.
My fart box is mega-loose from getting my cheeks ran so much.
That's why I act so butthurt.
I want to really meet up because I'm desperately seeking a Zaddy.
Okay.
All right.
Let's go to Woe Grandma.
Guys, she's 82.
She plays World of Warcraft.
She's playing retail.
Be nice, guys.
I do try to raid smaller streamers after the show.
She's got like 200, 300 people watching.
So don't overwhelm her, guys.
Be nice.
Please be nice.
We're going to do a raid.
Is the audio boosted on her?
Just mouse over just to double check.
Okay, it's cool.
All right, guys.
Thank you for watching on Twitch.
I'm going to send the raid over in just a moment.
But guys, tell her we got to get her on the podcast.
We got to hear her dating takes.
Bro, she was dating back in the 50s, 60s.
So she saw the transition, boys.
She saw the transition.
Look at the yawn.
She's yawning.
Guys, got to wake her up a little bit.
So, guys, I'm going to send a chat in just a se.
Wait, I'm almost done.
I'm going to wrap.
I'm just going to grab water.
Two minutes, two minutes, two minutes.
Okay, so I'll pull it back up.
All right, guys, thank you for watching on Twitch.
Gonna send the raid right now.
Thank you, guys.
Good night.
All right, that's going through.
We'll watch her for just oh, she's got checking out some mount or something.
Wes Watson donated $25.
Rachel, I already demonstrated IT all.
Oh.
What?
Okay.
Send more money.
Send Brian all your money.
Welcome, whatever.
Hi, well, Grandma.
Raiders from whatever.
Welcome.
Oh, she's so sweet.
And she is playing World of Warcraft retail, retail version of the game.
So, I just think.
Okay, cool.
We can.
And then we are going to raid Andrew Wilson, those of you who are watching on YouTube.
So I think we went over everything.
Let me just make sure.
Okay, we're good on that.
Let me just double-check, make sure it is going to send over to Andrew's stream here, guys.
One moment.
Don't want to leave him hanging.
Okay, yep.
It's the yes.
Okay, we're good.
All right, guys.
Once again, thank you to the panel.
Thank you for tuning in.
07s in the chat.
07s in the chat.
I hope you guys have a wonderful night.
We'll see you again on Sunday with another dating talk.
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