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Rachel Wilson vs. Feminists! She Is A 10! Better Looking In 20 Years? LDS Dating? | Dating Talk #164

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	We had a bunch of flakes.
	Maddie and Nick were in the mean streets of Isla Vista, Santa Barbara, just trying to.
	Which camera are you looking at, Maddie?
	That one?
	You like?
	No, you got to look dead center.
	Yeah, don't look at the top one.
	That one's not on.
	You got to look dead center.
	Oh, IRS is now a member.
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	Hold on.
	That's a little alarming.
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	Shit.
	I'm going to get audited.
	Thank you, man.
	I appreciate it.
	Eva, thank you, man.
	So, yeah, we had like nine flakes total today, six of which within 24 hours, and then like three that flaked like an hour before the show.
	So my apologies once again for us being late.
	But without further ado, with that said, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation.
	Go ahead.
	I'm Anaya.
	I'm 24.
	Into the mic.
	Into the mic.
	I'm a singer-songwriter, and I'm from Los Angeles.
	All right.
	Welcome, welcome.
	What about you?
	I'm Anza.
	I'm 25, and I'm in between LA and Santa Barbara.
	What do you do for work?
	Oh, right.
	I am a student and musician.
	Where are you a student?
	Here at UCSC.
	What are you studying?
	Music composition.
	Undergrad.
	I'm graduating this spring.
	Are you undergrad or underground?
	Yeah.
	Got it.
	All right, cool.
	What about you?
	All right, I am Ebony Janae.
	I am 28 years old, and I'm originally from Boston, but I live here in Los Angeles now.
	And what are you doing for work?
	I'm currently a content creator, astrologer, astrologer.
	Club promoter.
	Okay.
	Few things.
	So what does an astrologer do?
	I read charts.
	You read charts?
	I do.
	Okay.
	How long have you been doing that for?
	Did you go to school for that?
	So I went for psychology for my degree, but I've been studying astrology for about eight years.
	What'd they say about Taurus's?
	I'm a Taurus.
	We're pretty stubborn, but we like to work.
	You mess with the bull, you get the horn.
	Step effect.
	That's very much a fact.
	We'll find the easy way to do anything, too.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Wait, and going back to you, you said you're studying music composition.
	Yeah.
	So are you like classically trained musician?
	Yeah, classically trained, but I mainly focus on rock and film composition.
	Okay.
	And do you play an instrument or are you a singer?
	Voice, piano, guitar.
	Are you a soprano?
	Soprano with a freaky low range, they say.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	I also want to.
	Can we hear something?
	I mean, sure.
	What are we talking about?
	Like opera?
	What are we talking?
	What kind of stuff?
	I mean, I trained in opera, but like.
	Oh, shit, let's hear it.
	Let's hear it.
	Let's hear it.
	What are we doing?
	God, what did I say?
	Hold on, hold on.
	What's it called?
	It's the Queen the Night artist.
	Oh, the Queen of the Night.
	Queen of the Night, area?
	Oh, my God.
	I was about to do it, but it's hard to switch.
	Okay.
	I have not warmed up today.
	Wait, can you do it, though?
	I'll give it a shot.
	Hell yeah, dude.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	Damn.
	Very good.
	There we go.
	There we go.
	It would have been better even with a warm-up.
	Yeah.
	That was good.
	And that's a very hard opera piece.
	I mean, I don't know if I started in the right key, but that's.
	It was maybe a little off, but.
	Yeah, no, it was a little pitchy.
	I'm not going to lie.
	You aren't warmed up.
	You're on the spot.
	But that was very impressive.
	Okay.
	Sweet.
	And then we'll have to.
	What's that one from the, there was this movie in the 90s that featured an opera piece, The Fifth Element.
	Are you familiar with that?
	Oh, God, yes.
	But that one's like almost impossible, right?
	I think I know which one you're talking about.
	Yeah.
	I could do it, maybe.
	Right now?
	Fuck it.
	Okay, do it.
	Oh, God.
	Is that the one I was like?
	So the one with the blue alien or whatever?
	Is that the one where she's going to be like, what?
	I think so.
	Okay.
	You got it?
	Okay, sure.
	Wow.
	That was really good.
	That was good.
	In studio.
	Hey, guys.
	Guys, how are your eardrops?
	Chat, how are your ear drops on that?
	Okay, all right.
	This is a very classy podcast.
	Yeah, we got an opera singer.
	We'll have to go back to the, what is it?
	What's the actual title of the first one that you did?
	The night, queen.
	Oh, well, the character is queen of the night, but that song isn't.
	I'm trying to find that.
	I mean, you can find it if you just type Queen of the Night.
	Queen of the Night Aria.
	The magic flute.
	The magic flute.
	That's what I was looking for.
	Okay, cool, cool.
	That was good.
	That was good.
	Thank you.
	I preferred the first one, but we'll have you do it again later on.
	So, okay.
	And instruments?
	You said piano, vocal, and guitar.
	Guitar.
	Oh, wow.
	Can I just say, I forgot to say I also do music, but that's a band.
	I'm a musician.
	So there you go.
	What about you?
	Yeah, I'm Danielle.
	I'm 25.
	I'm from Salt Lake City, Utah, and I am a grad student right now, and I also work as a nanny.
	You said you're from Utah?
	Yeah.
	Salt Lake?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And you said 25, right?
	25, yeah.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Ming Wei.
	I'm 32, and I do all sorts of things.
	I'm a surf coach.
	I work $6,969, blah, blah, blah.
	$69 donated $69.
	Ow, ebony, I want a motorboat stem-teeters like a thotha-thr-row-row-row-row-row-row-row-row-row-row-row-row-row-row.
	Okay, thank you.
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	69.
	Appreciate it, man.
	So you're a surf coach.
	What else?
	I do a little modeling and a very small amount of content creation.
	I work with kids with autism, and sometimes I'm a high school substitute teacher.
	All right.
	And you're based in, did you say Ventura?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Favorite surf spot?
	I know you want me to say Ren Con.
	C Street?
	I like it.
	C Street's a great spot.
	We just don't want, I don't want to blow it up even more.
	I mean, it's on surf line.
	I know.
	Are there like secret spots in Ventura?
	There's no more secret spots anywhere.
	Not, yeah.
	Maybe a couple in Santa Barbara, but you have to go up north.
	Ish.
	Ish.
	Anyways.
	Okay, Maddie, what about you?
	My name is Madison.
	I'm 19 years old.
	I work for the Whatever podcast.
	I'm from San Diego, California.
	I am also a student at Santa Barbara City College studying at business and communication.
	And my Caucasian, Rachel Wilson.
	Yes, I am Mrs. Andrew Wilson, but you guys can call me Rachel.
	I'm a mom.
	I'm a researcher and author of this here book, Occult Feminism, Secret History of Women's Liberation.
	I'm also a certified firearms instructor, but most importantly, the wife of the infamous Andrew Wilson, who was so good to unchain me from the stove long enough just to let me come out here.
	So thank you very much for having me.
	Good to have you.
	Good to have you.
	Glad we finally were able to get you on.
	Did you say age?
	43.
	43.
	All right.
	All right.
	So going around the table once more, we're going to get everybody's relationship status.
	So are you single, talking stage, relationship, situationship, friends, benefits, married?
	Jess Gerald donated $69.
	From the whole chat.
	And every viewer, welcome to whatever Mrs. Wilson.
	Oh, there you go.
	You got a couple of feminism blew my mind.
	Yo, Dane, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Good to see you in the chat.
	Thank you.
	Buddy.
	Thank you, buddy.
	Okay, so relationship status, whatever it is.
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you?
	Go ahead.
	Okay, um it's very complicated.
	I'm in, I guess, a situationship and I've been in this couple of situationships for two to four years.
	So wait, are you currently in a couple situationships?
	Like you're dating multiple guys at the same time?
	Yes.
	How many situationships are you currently in?
	Two.
	You're in two?
	Okay.
	Have you been in more previously?
	Yes.
	What's the most you've been in at the same time?
	Oh.
	Oh, like simultaneously?
	Yeah.
	This is the most.
	This is the most.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And you've been seeing these two guys for how long?
	One of them for four years and the other one for two.
	Two years?
	Yeah.
	Well, almost two years.
	Have you ever been exclusive with either of them or has it always been a situation?
	Whatever fan donated $100, contributing to the barbecue session with Rachel for tonight.
	Pass the plates around and let her cook.
	Period.
	All right.
	Whatever, fan.
	Thank you, man.
	Barbecue session, yeah.
	It's in the works.
	Appreciate it, dude.
	There's actually one more coming in, so I'm going to, before I ask some clarifying questions, I'm going to wait and let it come through.
	Couchundus Corhopper underscore outdoors donated $69.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Andrew gave me pizza yesterday.
	Also to the bro in white, are you a cutholder?
	Huh?
	No?
	Are you supposed to be the bro?
	I guess.
	That's a woman.
	I don't know what that means.
	LLLL donated $69.
	My sprinkler goes like this And comes back like this Nice.
	That's what a sprinkler sounds like.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	Okay.
	So wait, okay, two situationships.
	One you've been seeing for four years, one you've been seeing for two years.
	Do they know about each other?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	They actually got into an argument today.
	Wait, today?
	Somebody DM'd me and said that a girl who's going to be on the show today, he didn't say who, has been cheating on him.
	But I don't know if that's you, but some guy DM'd me.
	He's like, a girl who's going to be on the show today, who's coming on, is my girlfriend, and she's been cheating on me.
	Sounds about right.
	Yeah.
	No, not me, but that's my best friend, so.
	Okay.
	Because I'm saying that because you said they got big on this.
	He started it.
	They both started it.
	What they said.
	They made it what it is.
	Cheating.
	They were cheating.
	The guys were cheating.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, you said it's been exciting.
	I'm not going to be stupid, so I'm going to cheat back.
	I'm a little confused, though, because I mean, you said that it's never been exclusive at any point in your relationship.
	You said you both categorize them as situationships, right?
	Well, I categorize them as situationships because I feel like they like to both play the field.
	Okay.
	Huh.
	Devon Jackson donated $69.
	W Rachel L. Feminism.
	You want to say anything to Dayvon?
	Hi, Dayvon.
	Thank you for the super chat.
	Thank you, Dave On.
	Appreciate it.
	By the way, W's in the chat for Rachel's pink.
	Look at the pink.
	It looks good, I like the, people always wear kind of more dull colors, but I like the pink.
	It looks good against the background.
	Anyways, okay.
	So They got into a fight?
	Like a fist fight in person or like a verb?
	They want to.
	They want to fight over you.
	Doesn't the winner get you?
	I think it's past that.
	Nick, can you open the door?
	It's just been a bunch of disrespect from both ends towards each other.
	Towards each other.
	For like the things that they've said.
	One of them actually pulled up to the house that we were staying at.
	Yeah.
	Warren, the underscore bear underscore in underscore the underscore woods donated $69.
	Why you keep sending your 304s into the woods?
	We don't want your hoes either.
	First off, we use the term strumpet, not 304.
	We use strumpet here at the whatever podcast.
	See, strump it.
	Strump it?
	Not 304.
	Strump it.
	Okay.
	We need to find.
	People have been sending me so many of these bear or man memes.
	The poor bears.
	Poor bears.
	What do we do to the bears?
	Bears are.
	They're enjoying the free food, though.
	So, okay, they're fighting between each other.
	Yes.
	Can I ask a question?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	So if they are like, why are they fighting if they're mad that you were cheating?
	Like, why wouldn't they just break it off?
	Why would they want to fight more?
	I think everybody's delusional, including me.
	Okay.
	When you say you're delusional, what do you mean?
	Like, I want to be a lover girl, but it's hard because I just feel like everybody just lies a lot.
	I feel like, including me, I have lied, but it's just, it is, it is.
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	Why is poo-poo time always PP time, but PP time isn't always poop-poo time?
	Actually, a good question.
	Wow, that is just some high-tier thank you, get booped.
	Appreciate it.
	We'll leave that to the philosophers and the academics to figure out.
	So, okay.
	So you lied, they lied.
	Now, when it you said you were dream weaver underscore beaver donated $69.
	Haikus are easy, but sometimes they don't make sense.
	Refrigerator.
	We got another one coming in, so I'll preempt it.
	Refrigerator?
	Haikus are.
	Oh, was that a haiku?
	That was a haiku?
	That was beautiful.
	That's some Shakespeare shit.
	Thank you, Dreamweaver.
	Dream Weaver Beaver.
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	Get these ladies a pen and paper.
	Rachel's about to take y'all to class.
	To class.
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	We have another one coming in.
	Dylan, thank you, man, for the TTS.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you, Dylan.
	Thank you, sir.
	You are a legend and a scholar.
	Rachel underscore is underscore mammy donated $69.
	Holy sheet.
	No wonder Andrew is always in a good mood.
	Look at his wife.
	Holy eek is on all of the bikes.
	What are red flags y'all have ignored in the past that you absolutely shouldn't have?
	Is that directed towards you, Rachel, or the whole panel?
	I don't know.
	What is it?
	What are red flags y'all have ignored in the past that you absolutely shouldn't have?
	So Rachel is mommy.
	I'm gonna write that down and we'll get.
	We'll ask that a little later on in the show just until we get through the relationship status stuff.
	No simping guys.
	Thanks for the super chat.
	Stop simping.
	Red flags ignored okay.
	So on a in an average week or average month.
	So you were seeing two guys at the same time, two situationships, how often would you be seeing each of them?
	Like what?
	One time per week each?
	Basically.
	No, it would be like I'll be dealing with one person and then we'll get into it and I'll find out about something and then I will go to the next person that I was dealing with and then be dealing with them.
	When you say dealing with them, do you mean like you would?
	What do you mean?
	Dealing with Bevo underscore, the Underscore CUP donated $69.
	Hey Brian, when you're going to have some guys on that, I can farm my wife out to.
	She's looking for a good game bang.
	Oh, this is uh.
	Okay, your role playing is, uh Bevo, uh Q's coming next week.
	We have uh.
	We have uh Jaquan coming next week.
	Long-time watcher of both the Crucible and Whatever Pod.
	We got more to do?
	Shout out to Rachel Wilson, i'm gonna have to be able to lose it soon.
	Um, all right Nick, thank you man, appreciate it.
	Um, and then we have Ripped Rich And Rare about to come in.
	Nick, you can hide the hide that it's about to come in.
	Uh, thank you Nick, appreciate it.
	Ripped Rich And Rare donated 69 dollars.
	By the way, you let him hit it raw.
	You didn't have second thoughts.
	Now you're a single mom.
	Now you're a single mom.
	You said, i'm gonna have his kids, don't care if he's here or not.
	Now you're a single mom.
	Word touche, well put, well put.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for that.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, so try to get.
	Try to get through this.
	You're currently in two situationships.
	One you've been seeing for four years, one you've been seeing for two years.
	They know about each other.
	They're fighting um, in that, in the four-year period, the two-year period, i'm assuming like, have other guys come into the picture?
	Come into the picture?
	Gone out of the picture?
	Um no, so you for?
	So, for you're 24, from 20 to 24, you've only been seeing these two guys.
	Is that correct?
	Um well, technically one of them, but so I guess from 22 to 24 I was seeing the other one and that's when it overlapped, but i'm saying like there weren't even other, like any other people coming into the picture at all.
	Um, before i'm talking like even just a one-time casual thing no, okay.
	So two dudes like gone on dates, but not like like one nice, like hookups okay, all right.
	So why haven't you like, have you not been desirous of having a long-term relationship with either of the of these guys?
	I have.
	I went to, but things just got really complicated just because of a lot of the stuff that they would do and bring up.
	Just a lot of disrespect that has happened.
	Being disrespectful to the relationship and just cheating a lot, notoriously, and dealing with exes, and just having stuff be really messy to the point where like, my parents are getting involved, they're messaging my parents and things like that, and i've had a couple abortions Because it, like it was yeah, just a lot of stuff.
	I don't know if I was allowed to say that word.
	No, you can, that's totally fine.
	Uh, okay.
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	Mrs. Wilson, welcome to whatever.
	Please, while I know you will be tempted, show no mercy.
	The patriarchy supports you in these endeavors and respects all your efforts.
	Respect.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, good to see you in the chat, Grid One.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Okay, so hold on.
	This is, at any point in the four years or whatever, did you ever call either of these guys your boyfriend?
	Yeah.
	Okay, but you said it was a situation.
	It's been situationships the entire time.
	I would say for the first one, it didn't start off like, no, it did start off like a situationship and then it grew into like we're in a relationship and we defined what it was.
	But I call it a situationship because I don't feel like he was ever treating it like a relationship even when he did define the relationship.
	It just wasn't like that because his actions were not lining up with his words.
	Were you guys like exclusive at this point or was there still multiple people involved?
	We were supposed to be exclusive, so there was no exclusivity on his end.
	So that's when I was like, okay, well, I'm not just going to continue to sit here and be played by somebody.
	But you kept dating him.
	Yeah.
	Why did you decide to keep dating him if he was cheating?
	Because I'm delusional.
	Fair enough.
	Fair enough.
	That just seems like a lot of work and like mental stress.
	I don't know, man.
	That sounds like a lot of work.
	She's right.
	Sounds like a lot of work.
	Yeah, it is.
	So, okay, but just to be clear, so you're currently in two situationships.
	When you said that there's overlap, for example, would you see Bobby on Wednesday and Trevor on Friday?
	No, it wouldn't go like that.
	It was more so like, as soon as I'm, like, I find out about something from one person, because it's more so like on and off.
	So as soon as I find out about something that one person did, then I'm like, okay, I'm done with you at this moment, and I'm going to go and be with the okay.
	In a 24-hour period, have you ever hung out with both of them?
	Yeah.
	In a 24-hour period, have you ever had carnal knowledge of both of them?
	What is carnal knowledge?
	Physical relations of sexual intercourse.
	I'll wait till the next day.
	Sexual relations.
	You'd wait.
	You'd be polite, considerate.
	Wait till the next, you know.
	Oh my God, y'all, this is so bad.
	12 hours.
	Okay, okay.
	Did you take a shower in between?
	Yes.
	All right.
	Good for you.
	All right.
	Good times.
	Okay, so maybe we'll come back to that.
	Of course.
	All right.
	Maybe we'll come back to that a little later on in the show.
	What about you?
	What was the question again?
	It's been a minute.
	Relationship status.
	So yeah, single.
	Single.
	Okay.
	Orientation?
	Bye.
	Bye.
	Okay.
	Is it like the pretty 50-50 split there, or do you more so date women, more so date men?
	I mean, hard to say.
	I was in a relationship for a while that was with a guy, so I'm only now really getting to experience the ladies.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	How long, longest relationship?
	Nearly three years.
	Three years?
	Is that your most recent one?
	Yeah.
	When did it end?
	Like seven months ago?
	Seven months ago?
	Who ends it?
	Me.
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	This Skisa's coachie is a graveyard of few abortions.
	That's insane.
	Murdering your offspring instead of taking responsibility for your poor choices.
	Fellas, protect your seed.
	Well, like I said, I didn't want to.
	It was something that I had to, but that's another conversation.
	Okay.
	And then coming back to you.
	So you've been single for seven months.
	You said you ended the relationship?
	I did.
	Why is that?
	A lot of things.
	Again, talk about disrespect in the relationship.
	And I mean, we had been arguing for a good two years of that relationship.
	It was like, why are we still doing this?
	And then last year was, hands down, the hardest year of my life.
	And I wasn't getting the support I needed.
	And so I thought, you know, if this is somebody I want to spend the rest of my life with, there's going to be harder times in my life than this.
	And if I'm not getting the support now, why do I want that in the future?
	Okay.
	What were you said there was some disrespect.
	By the way, we're going to, we're bumping the TTS up, guys, so it's just back up to the normal.
	We're going to do 100 read, 200 TTS.
	What was the disrespect?
	For one thing, I got DM messages from other girls who had gotten messages from him.
	And I'd seen some of those on his phone as well.
	And I know he kissed a stripper.
	And.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Kissed a stripper.
	Spearman Rhino?
	Was that where?
	I mean, I wasn't there when it happened.
	Oh, okay.
	I mean.
	I've heard of that place.
	Yeah.
	We have one in Santa Barbara.
	I did not know that.
	We also have one in Santa Monica.
	Okay, okay.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Yeah.
	I was at work and that happened.
	So he's cheating, basically.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I could never, of course, confirm if he actually went to those girls' places.
	Prior to this relationship with him, did you date any girls or have any romantic or sexual relationships with any women?
	No, I mean, I was always into them, but it just never happened.
	Okay, but post your three-year relationship, you have had some relationships with women or short-term.
	I wouldn't say relationships, but I've definitely been involved, yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And do you have like a, I know you said you're bi, but you like have a preference more so towards men.
	Women are about the same.
	About the same.
	About the same.
	Okay.
	Are you currently seeing?
	Or you said you're single, right?
	But is there anybody in the picture, even anything?
	I mean, I'm going on dates.
	You got, because I feel like you got Riz.
	Well, thank you.
	I try.
	So, like, you probably got like a roster, right?
	I mean, you got like side pieces and shit, right?
	Sure, sure.
	Like, you just will go on a date and just bust out some opera.
	It's like a, it's a done deal, right?
	It's like a yeah, that's really what gets them.
	Yeah, no.
	Yeah, I mean, there's some people.
	Okay.
	So you do have a roster then currently?
	I mean, I want to say it's only like a handful.
	It's not even a full hand.
	So like three?
	Yeah, three, four?
	Talking.
	How many girls currently?
	Not as many as you think.
	They're harder to talk to.
	It's a little harder.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Wait, what?
	Oh, okay.
	So like, would you say you're currently kind of like talking stage, like maybe two girls, two guys, something like that?
	I want to say there's like one girl.
	One girl.
	And one guy?
	Well, two guys, maybe?
	Two guys, maybe?
	Well, because somewhere like in the starting stages, I'm like, oh, maybe.
	Are you Paulie?
	No.
	Okay.
	So you would be desirous of a monogamous relationship.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And do you currently want a relationship?
	Are you kind of happy to keep things a bit more casual for the time being?
	I think it's getting to that point where I might want to get more serious, but I'm just kind of going with the flow.
	If it feels right, it feels right.
	I don't want any expectations with anybody.
	You know, I don't want to force the expectation of we're going to get in a relationship.
	That just feels weird.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I am currently single.
	I just got out of a toxic relationship.
	My longest relationship is five years, but the last relationship was, say, three and a half.
	When did your last relationship end?
	Let's say like December.
	So six, seven months ago?
	Yeah.
	And that was the 3.5-year relationship?
	Yep.
	Who ended it?
	Hmm.
	I did first, but then we lived together.
	On again, off again.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, we lived together, and I think we were still trying to make it work, and then he agreed.
	So.
	To the breakup?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	He didn't accept it at first, but.
	So who ended it first?
	I did.
	Why?
	Because he was super controlling and he would fill every space that I was in with negative energy.
	Everywhere.
	When you say super controlling, what are some examples of that?
	Didn't want me to do music.
	Didn't want me to hang out.
	Didn't want me to go outside.
	Didn't like any of my friends.
	Kind of isolated me a little bit.
	Even from family a little bit.
	When you say didn't want you to go out, do you mean like bars and clubs?
	Yeah.
	But he also didn't want to go out with me either.
	Like he really didn't enjoy outside either.
	But I did.
	So when you're saying outside, you mean like out partying?
	Yeah, like even just like doing stuff.
	Going for a like I want to take a trip or I want to like we've taken trips and we we went to the clubs He loved the strip club.
	He loved the strip club.
	Okay, so crazy enough, I love the strip club as well, and I introduced him to the strip club.
	However, did you used to dance?
	No.
	Never danced.
	But I love girls as well.
	Oh, okay.
	Your orientation?
	Bye.
	Bye.
	Okay.
	I want to marry a man, and I like girls for poly situations.
	You like women for poly situations?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I don't know if I could.
	I had a live before?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Have you, because you said you were living together with your ex, have you ever lived in a poly situation?
	For about two months.
	What was it?
	Like, what was the arrangement?
	Well, it was me and my ex, and then we brought in a friend of mine.
	And it was pretty good, except on his end, he kind of got jealous.
	Lookie.
	So we were spending a lot of time together, me and the girl, and then he didn't like that.
	He didn't really like her too much in the first place, but.
	Can I ask why you said you want to marry a man?
	Yeah.
	Because I do believe in having a man that's like the leader of a household, but I also like want me and my girlfriend or my like, I don't know.
	I'm not sure if I do the wife situation.
	Maybe for the right person, but I'd like to have fun.
	I don't want to be stuck to one person for the rest of my life.
	So then what's the point of marriage?
	Like what do you think marriage is for?
	Well, I think that it's sharing a life, a partner.
	But if you're sharing your partner, then what's the point?
	I feel like if me and my partner are locked in enough that it and there's nothing that could shake us, another person wouldn't be able to affect that.
	What about kids in a situation like that?
	So this is what I think about as well.
	I'm not opposed to living an alternative life and explaining to my kids.
	And I feel like at the end of the day, you have your family that comes in, no matter if you have like an auntie or uncle or somebody that comes in and has influence.
	So it's like, as long as the influence isn't negative, I think it'd be okay.
	Okay.
	May have some follow-ups to that later, but I'm still figuring it out.
	Relationship status.
	Yeah, I'm married.
	I've been married for four years as of like two weeks ago.
	And my longest relationship is with my husband.
	We've been together for seven years.
	Seven years.
	Okay, so were you guys high school sweethearts?
	We were.
	Okay.
	And let me just check my notes here.
	But you have dated other people in the past, right?
	Yeah, yeah, I have.
	So, I mean, my husband was like my first serious relationship, but I definitely dated and kissed other guys in high school.
	But I was never in like an official relationship with anyone.
	And my lifestyle before I met my husband was also very different.
	Are you Mormon?
	I am.
	I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ.
	Yeah.
	We actually don't prefer to be called Mormons.
	It changed.
	Well, it's just, it's a derogatory term that was actually given to us by people.
	Is it?
	Yeah, I mean, it was given by people who persecuted the early saints of our church.
	So we prefer to be called members of the church.
	But didn't Mormons self-identify as Mormons?
	I mean, yeah, we kind of accepted it at some point.
	Like we were like, yeah, you can call us Mormon.
	Like we're Mormons, but we don't like to be called Mormons now.
	Now?
	Yeah, we don't.
	When did that...
	I feel like... 2018.
	Mormons called themselves Mormons.
	2018.
	That was the switch.
	Are you aware of this, Rachel?
	Doesn't switch a room?
	Okay.
	No.
	I mean, I hear them call themselves LDS or like mainstream LDS or like fundamental or.
	Oh, no.
	I'm like Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, so not fundamentalist, nothing like that.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So is it a slur?
	To call somebody a Mormon?
	I mean, to find slurs, it's just like...
	You said it was derogatory, I think.
	Yeah, the word I used is derogatory.
	I guess I would just say, like, it's not a respectful term to us because we just believe that we are members of the Church of Jesus Christ.
	And so we prefer to be called members of the church or LDS as well.
	But yeah, we just, we want to identify ourselves as disciples of Jesus Christ.
	And we feel like as people were calling us Mormons, it was kind of taking away the fact that we follow Jesus Christ.
	And so we wanted that to be identified.
	Okay, cool.
	So, but you said something along the lines of you didn't always used to be, or you weren't always the way you are now.
	Yeah.
	What do you mean by that?
	Yeah, so I was baptized into the church when I was eight years old, but I went in and out of activity a ton.
	And for the most part, I really wasn't active.
	I had great examples in my life, but it wasn't something that I really wanted to adhere to.
	And when I moved in with some family in high school, my husband lived two doors down and he was a member of the church.
	And he just befriended me.
	And I just saw a light in him that I didn't really see in other people.
	And I just appreciated his example.
	And so we were really good friends for like a year and a half.
	And then he kind of confessed his love to me.
	And I was like, you're my best friend.
	Like, don't want to date you.
	Don't want to lose you that way.
	And he made it out of the friend zone.
	Nice.
	How did he do that?
	What got him out of the friend zone?
	Yeah, I think just being a friend.
	That's awesome.
	Good for you, buddy.
	Okay.
	So did you, when you say like you were different back then, or were you like more in terms of politics, you were more liberal?
	No, I would not say I was liberal.
	I'd say that I just didn't have like I didn't have a direction, so I wasn't like sure where I was going or what my standards were, but I like I didn't do anything like really bad.
	I just didn't know what was important to me at the time.
	Did you go to BYU?
	No.
	Okay.
	Wait, why do you laugh at that?
	Because like there's this whole BYU is in provo and there's this whole like provo girl thing and like what's a provo girl?
	Oh man.
	And obviously not everyone who goes to BYU is a provo girl.
	I don't want to like say what is that?
	But a provo girl is just like a girl that claims to be so virtuous and good but is hiding behind the standards of our church.
	Hiding behind the scenes.
	Like they claim to be church members but they don't act that way.
	And they're mean.
	And they're mean?
	Yeah.
	Mean.
	They're mean.
	Okay.
	Isn't there like in order to go to BYU, don't you have to take like certain like a purity pledge or something?
	No, you have to agree to the standards of the university.
	Like it's a private university, so you have to.
	Well you can't like co-house, you can't be in the same room as a man.
	So depending on like, oh, no, like they have like co-ed classes.
	I mean you can be in the same classroom, but you can't like go over to like a guy's dorm, I think.
	You can.
	You just can't like be in their room and sleep with them.
	Okay.
	Don't they do some sussy stuff like the soaking and whatnot?
	Like isn't there some weird workarounds?
	Yeah, so there's soaking and there's also a LDS thing?
	I mean I think that like it's been claimed in provo.
	I don't know if it's like an LDS thing, but I think there's people of religion who also do it because it makes them feel like they have like this out.
	But it's basically you are literally having sexual intercourse, but it's like it doesn't count.
	Yeah, for a scenario, it'd be like you'd go to your friend and you'd be like, can you move the bed for me type thing?
	Does that happen?
	Is that actually a thing?
	Yes, it is a thing.
	And there's people like who would also drive to like because we don't believe in having sex before marriage.
	And so there's people who will like drive to Las Vegas and get married, have sex, and then like get it annulled.
	Wow.
	But it's like God knows your intent, so you're not really cheating anyone but yourself.
	But yeah, the derfing thing is, or this, what is it?
	Soaking.
	Soaking, yeah.
	There's a lot of weird terms.
	My understanding of soaking, just for the audience viewers of the panelists who don't know what that is, it's a sexual practice.
	The man inserts the penis into the vagina, but there can be no subsequent thrusting.
	Nothing.
	There can be a lot of people.
	Does the way it is?
	That's why it's called soaking.
	But if someone else moves the bed for you, it somehow is open.
	Good times.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it's weird.
	I'm not going to say it.
	The person moving the bed, I think, is the weirdest.
	Right, like, who would you trust enough?
	That's a lot of work.
	Yeah, that's.
	How long do you have to move the bed for?
	I don't know.
	However long it takes.
	That's crazy.
	Good times.
	A bigger workout for the person not involved, though.
	For sure.
	Okay.
	And then what about you?
	I am married.
	I just celebrated two years the other day, and that's my longest relationship.
	How long were you dating before?
	Wait, you've been married for two years?
	Yeah, married for two.
	How long were you dating before you got married?
	I think we were dating for about six years.
	Okay, so together for like eight years total.
	Yeah.
	Okay, and that's your longest relationship.
	So you've been together from like 24 to 32, basically?
	Sure, yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	How did you guys meet?
	Surfing.
	Surfing, C Street?
	Yeah.
	He was in my hood.
	And I'd be like, who is this guy?
	Okay, nice.
	How big was it?
	Was it like ankle slappers?
	Like, it was a pretty shitty day.
	It was a pretty shitty day, probably.
	All right.
	I'll just like hit on a girl.
	I approached him, actually.
	Well, I had a friend introduce us, and my friend didn't want to.
	Wait, hold on.
	So, okay, you were out surfing with a girlfriend?
	No, just by myself.
	Oh, just...
	But you said you had a friend introduce...
	Oh.
	Oh, well, like, you know, surfing, it's a community.
	You know each other, yeah.
	You see the same people at the same spots.
	And then I noticed my friend talking to my husband, and I was like, hey, he's cute.
	Make it happen.
	Was your friend a female friend or male friend?
	Male friend.
	Male friend.
	There's not a lot of females.
	Yeah, there's not a lot of female surfers.
	So he was talking to your now husband.
	he didn't want to introduce us he was like trying to like wait you're my friend My friend's like, ah, you don't want to date him.
	Why is that?
	I think my friend liked me.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	But you didn't like him?
	No.
	But you liked his friend?
	Yes.
	So he introduced you anyways, though?
	No, I was like, step aside, I got this.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay, so you paddled up to him?
	We were all hanging out in the parking lot after surfing.
	Yeah.
	But he's surfed at C Street for a very long time, and I've just never really had.
	Longboarder or shortboarder?
	Well, we're both.
	He grew up shortboarding, and I turned him to the dark side, and he's a longboarder now.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	So, yeah, we're hanging.
	Twinfin, Trifin?
	He does it all.
	Me?
	Yeah, him.
	He surfs it all.
	He has a fun little, like, 5'8 fish that he likes.
	And then now...
	Does he need...
	What's that?
	What's it called?
	Kneeboarding Spoon?
	Does he spoon?
	Does he got a spoon?
	I mean, I spoon.
	I spoon.
	No, he actually, he boogie boards sometimes.
	He's a...
	Sometimes.
	Only when it's like...
	He's a sponger?
	No, Damn, bro, you gotta divorce this guy.
	I'm sorry.
	Listen, though.
	Only when it's like insane barreling, you can't fit into the barrel standing up on a board.
	He'll pull in with a sponge.
	And that's the only time he'll be on a boogie board.
	Wait, what's that the wedge?
	Does he ever surf the wedge?
	Is that San Clemente?
	That's Newport.
	Newport.
	Because you don't want to really surf.
	I mean, you can surf it, but it's mostly like.
	I don't know if he has surfed there, boogie boarded there.
	Okay.
	We don't really like it.
	But he'll go out.
	He'll sponge like on just a big day.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So what was your opening line?
	Actually, okay.
	So let me.
	So we meet in the parking lot.
	I don't really like try to do it.
	I'm just like, hi, introduce myself.
	And it turns out that we lived on the same street.
	And the street that we lived on had an HOA.
	And him and his buddy are fishermen too.
	So they had a boat in the driveway.
	They would always get yelled at.
	And there was like drama in the HOA.
	Like these guys always have their boat in the yard.
	And so I drove by and I screamed out the window, like, get that boat off the driveway.
	And it freaked him out.
	And I felt bad.
	So I whipped back around and I was like, hey, I'm just kidding.
	Let's go surf.
	That was a joke.
	And I was like, can I get your digits?
	All right.
	And the rest is history.
	Yeah.
	And your friend tried to warn you off of him, though?
	Yeah.
	How so?
	Said that he's like, does drugs and stuff like that?
	Does he?
	Did he?
	Not at that time.
	No, it's furthest from the truth.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	He's a very good man.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	And, well, Rachel, what about you?
	Well, I've been married to the most based, handsome Chad of all time for over a decade now.
	Definitely my longest relationship.
	17 years now?
	He's been the guy for me.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	And you guys have some kids.
	What about you?
	Do you guys have kids?
	No, not yet.
	Planning to, though?
	We're thinking about it.
	Thinking about it?
	Thinking about it?
	Thinking about it.
	Does he want kids?
	You're 32, right?
	Yeah.
	He, yeah.
	TikTok.
	Yeah, we are talking about it.
	He has a lot of hobbies that keep him very occupied.
	And I also enjoy hobbies, and it's tough to do with kids.
	Definitely.
	Well, I mean, with surfing, too, I mean, that's kind of like, especially if that's your passion, if you have kids, that's going to complicate the whole surfing thing.
	So I kind of get that.
	Is he a professional surfer?
	He's not.
	I am.
	But he is obsessed with fishing.
	That is his first love, and I think I'm his second.
	Okay.
	Kids?
	No kids currently, no.
	Planning to?
	Definitely.
	Do you know how many you want?
	An even number, probably four.
	We'll see.
	Whatever God gives me.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Cool.
	Sorry, guys.
	I'm getting a text from Madison here.
	All right.
	So we're going to read a couple chats here, then we'll get into some topics.
	Pull that back up, Nick.
	I'll read it.
	Actually, let's have the opera singer read it.
	Go ahead.
	Just got out of the mines and used my hard-earned money to tell the trumpets to stop strumpeting around.
	Jesus can and will forgive all strumpet actions.
	The spiritual warfare is very real.
	Protect your heart.
	There are very real consequences to being a strumpet.
	Lolol.
	Yo, yes.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Appreciate you helping me repopularize the term strumpet.
	It is a war effort.
	So thank you for the soup chat, man.
	Really appreciate your patronage.
	Where does that do?
	Working hard.
	He got out of the mines.
	The mines?
	Damn.
	What are you mining, dude?
	Gold?
	Diamonds?
	Bitcoin.
	Bitcoin?
	And then we have Anthony Thomas.
	Hey, all, long time viewer with the pod to miss a few abortions.
	Unless childbirth was life-threatening, which I doubt, what could possibly make you have to end life grab your popcorn.
	Folks, if you want to respond to that, you're welcome to.
	Actually, I was born with a heart murmur.
	So, you know, people don't know everything, but.
	Wait, I'm a little confused, though.
	You were born with a heart murmur.
	It could have been.
	Your point?
	It could have been life-threatening if because there's a lot of things that can happen during childbirth, but also just the fact that I was forced to.
	So forced to buy the guy or?
	Yeah.
	Well, how did he force you?
	He just didn't want me to have kids with him, and he just was screaming at me.
	And basically, like every time just drove me there.
	Even like the last one, I like tried to just keep it like a secret, but I couldn't.
	And then you got back with this guy even after that?
	Yeah.
	Oh, girl.
	Why?
	I couldn't give you a real reason that makes sense.
	Yeah.
	Why didn't you decide to just stop telling him if he was like, like, why didn't you decide, I don't need to tell him.
	I can get my resources and raise this baby.
	At one point we were living together.
	My body's like very sensitive.
	So it was like, at that point, it was like, we just both knew like something's up.
	Do you not have family that can help you or that you could move in with?
	I mean, I stay, well, actually, we stay together now, but at that point, it was like, no.
	And then my family's not like the most financially stable people.
	And my mom is also the type of person, she's like, if you bring a child home, like you are definitely like taking care of it.
	It's not the village or whatever.
	She's like, I'm not doing any of that.
	And especially if I'm not stable myself yet.
	She's like, absolutely not.
	She would, she, she kicked me out at 17.
	So, yeah.
	Word?
	Did you have a follow-up on that ritual?
	Well, I actually had a really similar thing.
	My mother is completely uninvolved, wants nothing to do with being a mother or a grandmother.
	I'm kind of uninvolved.
	Oh, my parents were like, nope, no, we're not helping.
	If you have kids, sign your own butt, have five.
	So it wasn't always easy, but if you want to, you can do it.
	But I kind of wonder why so many girls are willing to do the thing that makes babies with guys that, and repeatedly the guy doesn't want babies.
	Yeah, honestly, I really can't give a straight answer for that.
	I feel like before I got involved with this person, my ex passed away.
	So I kind of, when I met him a few months after that, I probably should have taken more time to grieve.
	I feel like I never really allowed myself to grieve.
	I don't really handle that stuff well.
	I kind of just put everything on the back burner when it comes to emotions and things until I do blow up, which is not healthy, and I am aware of that.
	But I feel like I just latched onto him and I felt like I needed him at a certain point.
	And I still feel like sometimes I, if I'm being honest with myself, I do feel that I need him in certain aspects of my life.
	And really, I don't, but my I do.
	Well, I think you probably really do need and benefit from having like a strong, good man who can lead you in your life, but this doesn't sound like that, yeah.
	So like when you're dating or when you're choosing a guy, like what are you thinking about marrying somebody who's gonna like be there through thick and thin and take care of you no matter what?
	Or are you just kind of going for whoever's cute and funny?
	Or like, what are you thinking of when you're choosing a guy?
	I feel like right now, I just haven't been making like good decisions when I'm thinking about choosing men, obviously, but I feel like for the future, I do want to get married and have kids and stuff like that.
	But I just feel like this generation is so like messed up and I feel like I'm, I could just have stayed true to me and not fed into all of the toxicity, but I feel like I allowed it and have continuously been allowing it to mold me into someone else.
	But also I want to add that my mom still is a good mother.
	I love her.
	We were just going through a lot when I was younger.
	I was very rebellious, but that's my best friend.
	That makes sense.
	I was gonna ask actually, when you say you were rebellious, do you feel like you end up with these guys because part of you is trying to do the strong, independent woman thing?
	Like, I don't need a man, I can do it myself.
	But at the same time, you want somebody, so you end up with a guy who is okay with you being strong, independent, single woman, who also turns out to be the kind of guy who's going to freak out if you get pregnant and not want to commit and all that.
	I feel like you have a really good point there.
	I don't feel like I ever thought of it like that.
	Yeah, because even when I was like being very rebellious, I was just always, I just don't like rules, I guess.
	I don't like for there to be like any rules on things.
	You like beta men?
	Yeah.
	So I guess.
	Yeah.
	Like, I don't want to.
	Well, see, that's the thing.
	If you want the kind of guy who's going to handle business, he can't also be the same kind of guy that's going to constantly let you step on his dick.
	Yeah.
	Literally.
	Dick stepping.
	Literally.
	Dick stepping.
	Yeah.
	She can tell you, I'm kind of.
	I'm holding my tongue, guys.
	It's not my story.
	It's not my story.
	Throw her under the bus.
	Go ahead and get in there.
	Listen, I can't talk because my must be kind of messed up too.
	But I will say I'm four years older and to experience the things that she goes through, I'm like, you're just young.
	You're just young.
	But I feel like you really do need to understand that you deserve better and stop being comfortable because at the end of the day, it's just being comfortable at this point.
	I get really annoyed with the you're just young thing, because you're pretty close to the same age and there's I don't know if that's like the best like you felt like accountability, I think also is like like needs to happen as well, and there's a lot of people who are young.
	What I will say is that, coming from we don't exactly come from the same place, but I have an understanding because when I was her age, I was, I had a similar mindset, so for me it's just like that's how I thought when I was younger.
	So it's like I give her grace, but at the same time, I do step in and be like you need to take accountability.
	I'm like you literally made this happen, you allowed this to happen.
	So, but I understand, I mean I was just gonna say I mean we are definitely allowed to make mistakes and we should be making mistakes but yeah, we need to have that awareness uh, as we're making those mistakes.
	And then that's when I think it's okay.
	It's if we're making those mistakes and repeating those mistakes when it becomes a problem.
	Yeah, repetition builds habits, whether it's healthy or not.
	So can I ask, do you regret the abortions?
	Yes and no, because I am not.
	I don't think that I should be having children with a man that doesn't even want to take any type of responsibility.
	I would like to be in a household with you know the healthy family dynamic.
	I would like that.
	But I do understand that people have their beliefs and, Like I said, it wasn't really something that I wanted to do, but I had to, and I regret it, and I don't, basically.
	Yeah, I mean, I definitely agree.
	I think that children do deserve to be born to like a mother and a father who love them and will give them everything that they deserve.
	But I do think that consequences have actions, and I believe that if you're having sex, then you should be willing to accept the consequence that you could conceive a child with that person.
	And we shouldn't have sex with people we don't want to have kids with.
	Yeah.
	And I wanted to have kids with him initially.
	Yeah.
	But, you know, it just didn't work out that way.
	And once I had never seen him blow up like that until that situation happened, and then it obviously happened again.
	So it just.
	So what was your like first red flag with him and how early did it happen in the relationship?
	Because you were together for four years.
	So when did that red flag appear and why did you ignore it?
	First red flag was when he was sleeping in my bed at my house and his phone kept going off and I already knew the phone password.
	So I went through the phone and I seen him talking to multiple people, but it was just this one person that I was just like okay, this one is like serious, you know, and it ended up being his ex-girlfriend.
	That he claims is not his ex-girlfriend, but you guys were dealing with each other seriously, so it's obviously that.
	And I figured out that he was driving her car.
	That was her car that he was driving and stuff that he was paying on.
	She had ended up moving away to another state and so he was like paying, I guess, on the car can we arrive at the point here?
	But yeah, that was that was really like the first red flag.
	So just him cheating basically yeah okay, and when was that in the relationship?
	Because you were together for four years?
	When did that happen?
	Four months in?
	Oh, my goodness, I'm so sorry you stayed with him and that was after the first abortion.
	Yeah, can I ask something?
	I'm not.
	I'm not saying you were wrong for doing what you did at all, just a general question.
	At those clinics, you know they are supposed to ask, are you being forced into this situation?
	Did they ever ask you that?
	Yeah, they always did, and I always told them, no, oh girl yeah, just out of fear.
	Sure sure, fear is a very strong motivation.
	Yeah, Okay, we're gonna get to one of the chats that came in earlier.
	He asked, what are red flags y'all have ignored in the past that you absolutely shouldn't have?
	We're gonna, we'll start with you, we'll go around the table.
	So what are red flags you've ignored in the past that you absolutely shouldn't have?
	Go ahead well, I feel like I already touched on it.
	Really, just going through the phone and seeing a bunch of things like that should have just been like okay, like no immediately.
	I should have just been like no, so I'll leave it at that.
	Well, the fact that I started out as the other woman in the first place, that's a big one.
	I would say love bombing and then not taking accountability during arguments I was like I'd be gaslighted and I can't argue it crazy.
	So I'd say just being the rebound girl yeah, I'd have to say somebody who doesn't have their own interests and hobbies and they're kind of like clinging on to you and you're their hobby.
	So I would say a guy who's willing to let me take responsibility and be in charge of everything and wear the pants and like pay all the bills and be the grown-up.
	Did that when I was really young and that didn't turn out well.
	So yeah.
	Rachel, do you have a question for them?
	I know I got one.
	Go ahead.
	What do you think are your own red flags?
	Really cool.
	you want to start with you and go around um for me coming from not being a healed person i feel like i have definitely done my fair share of damage and i feel like i always have to one up someone i i don't like losing i I'm an Aerie, so I just don't like, I just don't like that.
	I feel like that's a really big thing because you could just be a bigger person and just walk away because silence is really the best revenge.
	Okay.
	I want to say just that I'm stubborn.
	You know, I don't always want to admit that I'm wrong.
	Granted, I'm working on that.
	You know, I want to be better so I can be better for others.
	I get comfortable really, really fast.
	So if there's something that's negative in the relationship, I can get used to it because I'm like, okay, it's not that serious.
	It's not that serious until I blow up.
	I'd say I have a difficult time asking for help.
	Maybe I have a temper.
	And I've been working really hard to make sure that I think before I yell.
	Me, for me, it was never like promiscuity or anything like that.
	I never did that.
	But early on when I was younger, I was like really willful.
	And same as what all you guys are saying.
	And I think the takeaway from that is that especially all of us who are born in this day and age as women, we tend to be really willful.
	We're taught that we should compete with men.
	We're told that we need to not let anyone control us and not let anybody tell us what to do.
	And so we feel like we do have to constantly one-up the guy or whatever.
	I did that too when I was younger.
	And good wives are not born.
	They're made.
	And it was something I had to work on.
	It was something that I worked on with my husband's help.
	And we can maybe get into that later.
	But yeah, I had all the same issues.
	I had a temper.
	I was willful.
	I was competitive.
	All that stuff when I was young.
	So did you guys, was a second question asked?
	Yeah.
	It was, what are your flags?
	What are our red flags?
	Red flags.
	Okay.
	I had to get up there for a second, so I missed all your answers.
	But we have Pan to Dan.
	Ming, it's Dan from First Point.
	Awesome.
	You're on this pod.
	Can you get an autograph from Rachel Wilson for me?
	I loved her book, and she's an amazing debater.
	Good luck, Ming.
	See you at Malibu.
	Yeah, nice.
	Hopefully, we'll get some South Swell soon.
	You ever surf Leo Corrillo?
	Seccos?
	Yeah.
	It's a good spot.
	That's okay.
	It's actually a really crappy break.
	You should never go there.
	Well, the problem is, is like it's got that rock, so it's like there's one takeoff spot.
	Yeah, the rock is really dangerous.
	You shouldn't go there.
	Definitely shouldn't serve Seccas.
	Yeah, definitely.
	But it's like if there's more, it suffers from like crowd issues because there's basically one takeoff.
	So if there's more than like a handful of people out there, it's just fucked.
	It's fucked.
	Okay.
	Yep.
	RingCon's better.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Everyone go to RinCon.
	Yeah, go to RingCon.
	All right, cool.
	I'll answer the question too, I guess.
	Let me find it.
	What are red flags y'all have ignored in the past that you absolutely okay?
	She was a feminist.
	L. Ignored it long time ago.
	Speaking of which, who here considers themselves, I should have maybe asked this first, who here considers themselves a feminist?
	So we'll start just one by one.
	What about you?
	Yeah, I consider myself a feminist.
	Feminist?
	What about you?
	I mean, what is a feminist anymore, if we're being honest?
	A feminist is somebody who believes in egalitarianism or equality between men and women.
	I mean, yeah, within.
	Is that the charitable?
	That's the charitable.
	Sure.
	I mean, within that definition, sure.
	Okay.
	Hmm.
	Now I want to change my answer because I feel like that is depending on what we're talking about.
	Financially, physically, like what are we getting at?
	But I'm going to just say I'm 50-50 on that.
	No, I'm not a feminist.
	I'm not a feminist either, but I do want equality in sports, though.
	Equality in sports?
	Yeah.
	Meaning, like, paid the same, or...?
	Um, not paid the same, but...
	Like, co-ed?
	It's a...
	I'm very on the fence about it.
	But as an athlete, I want to be able to make a living doing what I like to do too, and it's really difficult as a woman.
	So it's more the financial aspect?
	Because I was wondering how you feel about the transgender folks who want to compete in women's sports and things like that.
	How do you feel about that?
	I think that we have divisions for a reason.
	We have a women's division and a men's division for a very specific, and there's a, we should have that.
	Yeah.
	Well, I have some questions on that one.
	So you said that you want equality in sports.
	Well, not equality, but I just want more visibility with women's sports, maybe.
	You want more visibility.
	So what is it?
	Opportunity.
	More opportunity for us.
	Yeah, what does that mean?
	Well, I feel like, at least in surfing, and I'm sure it's similar in other sports, you are either maybe the top three in the world, and you get a lot of spotlight and you get a lot of attention, or you have to kind of show your body and use that to gain followers and income.
	So it's just tough in this industry to make a living.
	Okay, so when it comes to surfing, right?
	And when you say you have to be top three, you're talking about like the women's professional surfing.
	Okay.
	And so do you think that because one component of surfing, you have sponsorships, but you also have competitions.
	And typically the person who places the best gets paid more.
	I don't know what it is in women's.
	I remember last time I used to watch at least the men's surfing, the first place for like the top surf competitions would typically be like 40, 50,000 for the winner.
	That was a long time ago, though.
	Maybe it's increased.
	with shortboarding too and i'm a longboarder so i've oh it's probably even less for longboarding Yeah, so I really stabbed myself in the foot or shot myself in the foot there with being a longboarder because there's really no attention with longboarding.
	Let me ask you a question.
	So on a good day at C Street, surf spawn Ventura, how many people are typically out at a given time?
	100?
	Would you say?
	100 surfers on a good day?
	Maybe 50?
	at c street because you have like the cover well there's the cove and then there's like was it first point What's it called?
	Sables?
	The point?
	The point.
	Metal lot?
	The whole.
	Well, you got the pier, and then that's the cove.
	I would argue on a good day at C-Street, there's going to be like there can be 100 people at the cove even.
	Sure.
	Okay, so how many of those are men typically?
	Like there's 100 people out.
	How many?
	Probably 90% or more.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So.
	And so would you want, for example, women's longboarders to be paid the same as women's shortboarders?
	Yeah.
	even though there's kind of less viewership and demand for watching longboarding compared to...
	Yeah, I hear what you're saying, and I agree with you with every other sport but mine.
	Well, that's like that doesn't make sense.
	I know it doesn't make sense.
	And I think since I'm so close and personal and I've been doing it for a very long time, it's hard.
	But I hear your side and I agree with your side a lot.
	And it's just frustrating trying to should women longboarders be paid the same as male shortboarders?
	I think if you're competing in the same event, which they never would be, because you'd never, like a pro event, they would never have long borders and short borders at the same event.
	But if you are competing in the same event on the same, actually, let me think about that.
	If you're.
	Okay, so for example, I watch the Pipe Master Pro, and I definitely think those, whoever is surfing pipeline, when it's huge, they definitely deserve to get the pay that they get, which is a lot more than long borders, because that is like you're risking your life.
	So I don't think we should get paid the same as somebody who is literally dropping in onto like reef breaks and it's life, they're risking their life.
	So depending on the situation.
	Well, let's even assume that the women's competition, like it's you're saying within the same competition.
	Let's just assume that the women are even surfing bigger waves and the men are surfing like head-high trestles, right?
	Even when the men are surfing head-high trestles and the women are surfing like overhead some Hawaii break or something, there's still going to be more viewership for the men's competition, even in surfing.
	So I mean, wouldn't the argument just be that, well, there's more viewership there, that means there's more sponsorship dollars.
	The sponsors, whether it's Quicksilver, Billabong, Rip Curl, whatever the surf sponsorship is, they make more money from the men's competition, so they have more money to do that.
	So there's definitely more viewership, but women sell way more things.
	So there might be viewership, but women longboarders or women surfers, we are able to market ourselves in different ways.
	And we should be getting, I think, more views.
	I'm going to put you.
	Yeah, perfect.
	All right, guys, we got two.
	Madison, Maddie, you want to take your seat back here?
	Grab the hat.
	Continue with your point, then we'll have our new guests introduce themselves.
	I don't really have a...
	Oh, okay.
	That was kind of it.
	I've been wishy-washy with this for a very long time, and it's hard for me to, like, because I hear what you're saying, the viewership, I get that.
	But there's, yeah.
	Okay, well, moving on then.
	Can we have you guys introduce yourselves?
	So name, age, occupation, and where you're from?
	Starting with you.
	Oh, yeah, and we do, since you guys are just joining us, we do need you guys speaking up close as close as you can as to the mic, like that close.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	Hello, my name is Jada.
	I'm 18 years old.
	Sorry.
	I'm from.
	I came from Guam.
	My dad's in the military.
	And now I'm a college student at UC Santa Barbara.
	What are you studying?
	I'm a pre-bio major.
	Pre-bio, okay.
	And you said you're from Guam?
	Were you born there?
	No, I was born in San Diego, but we had to move a lot because.
	He was in the military?
	What branch of the military?
	Navy?
	Yes, Navy.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So you've spent some time on Guam?
	Yes.
	Like high school or something?
	Yeah, about three years.
	Okay.
	How far, like that's, what's the population?
	It's like 50,000 or something?
	I think about 100,000.
	Oh, 100,000?
	Okay, all right.
	All right.
	And you?
	Hi, my name's Anousha.
	I'm also a first year at Santa Barbara, UCSB.
	I grew up in Sri Lanka, but I moved here from Sacramento.
	All right.
	What are you studying at UCSB?
	I'm also a pre-bio major.
	Pre-bio.
	Okay.
	And then we're going to ask also both of your current relationship status.
	So are you like single, talking stage, situationship?
	Starting with you?
	Okay.
	I have a boyfriend.
	We've been together for about two years.
	So yeah, we got together in junior year.
	Can I have you tilt your mic down a little bit?
	Perfect.
	Two years.
	Okay.
	And you said you got together, what was that?
	In our junior year.
	Of high school.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	All right.
	Have you ever been in a relationship?
	No.
	How long?
	Well, I was going to say how long have you been single, but your whole life then?
	Yeah, basically.
	Okay, we'll say single for 18 years.
	And then, let's see.
	I mean, what's the longest period of time that you've have you had have you been on a first date, for example?
	No, I haven't been on a first date or anything.
	Huh?
	No.
	Have you, do you party at all on the weekends?
	A little, yeah.
	Okay.
	What's the extent of your dating experience?
	Well.
	Have you had a casual thing, a fling, anything like that?
	Well, this summer I was in Sweden and I went out a bit and like I kissed some guys, but like that's about it.
	Some Swedish, hot Swedish dudes?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Blue hairs, blue hair, blonde.
	Blue hair, blonde.
	What?
	Okay.
	And you're a freshman at UCSB, correct?
	Yeah.
	You haven't done like any partying because UCSB is number one party school, right?
	So we've gone out of it.
	We've partied a bit, but.
	Any frat boys?
	Not really.
	Here and there?
	Nothing?
	Okay.
	So at least here in the US, no, nothing?
	Not really.
	Like even like a one-night hookup?
	Nothing.
	Okay, all right.
	Are you on any dating apps?
	No.
	Sexual orientation?
	Straight.
	Straight?
	Okay.
	All right.
	Are you looking for anything or are you kind of just focused on school right now?
	I mean, I'm not like closed off to it or anything, but like I'm not like actively looking.
	Okay, cool.
	Great.
	Well, welcome, guys.
	Thank you guys for joining us kind of midway through here.
	So getting right back into it, I'm going to pull up a super chat that came through.
	We had Darren Jones.
	Could I have you read this one?
	With me?
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	The glory of God is that he lives and creates life.
	The peak opposite is to have his own creation to kill itself and deny his best feature of creating life.
	Okay, Darren.
	All right.
	Thank you, Darren Jones.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for the super chat.
	Yeah, guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Nick, if you're able to pull up the thing in the stream labs, yep, go there, guys.
	If you have Amazon Prime, you can link it to your Twitch.
	It's a quick, free, easy way to support the show every single month.
	And if you can, guys, I don't know if any Twitch Prime in the chat.
	Okay, thank you guys.
	Appreciate it.
	So we were going around the table.
	I think we were just asking on the feminism thing.
	I think we ended with you.
	Then we started talking about surfing, differential in pay and surfing.
	Would you guys consider yourselves feminists?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Rachel, what about you?
	No, I would not consider myself a feminist.
	Why is that?
	Because I think that patriarchy is the natural order of things and it's inescapable.
	And if you want to try to be a feminist, you're going to have a really hard time because it's simply not actually possible for us to have anything besides a patriarchy.
	And we can get into why that is if anybody wants to.
	Does anybody have any qualms with?
	Can you define patriarchy for those that are going to be able to do that?
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Patriarchy literally just means rule by the father.
	Awesome.
	So it just generally means men are the rulers and organizers in the home, in society, in the church, in the government.
	And this has implications.
	I mean, we're dating talk show, but this absolutely has implications when it comes to dating, gender roles, that sort of thing.
	Someone who's a bit more feminist might prefer a bit more of an egalitarian relationship, 50-50, that sort of thing.
	So, or at least that's what it would appear to be.
	So she's for patriarchy.
	Hot take from Rachel here.
	Does anybody here object to Rachel's position?
	So I don't know if I object, but I want to bring up a point.
	Does everybody know who Lilith is?
	Yes, she's in my book.
	How do you feel about her?
	Period.
	How do you feel about her?
	Lilith?
	She's a demon.
	So I think she's a vengeful goddess figure.
	Feminists love her.
	She tends to be a feminist icon because she takes vengeance on men.
	She sometimes SAs them in their sleep and then murders their babies, the offspring.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Is this like, I don't know, Diablo 4, just, is it Diablo 4?
	Is that the one from Diablo?
	Yeah, the game?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	She's kind of like hot, not going to lie.
	Yeah, she buys men's heads.
	Heads off.
	Yeah, they're always hot.
	But basically the idea behind her, I guess, was that she was the first.
	I like the story about her.
	But now it's funny.
	Let me just say this.
	She was there before Eve.
	It was Adam and Lilith.
	She's made out of the same stuff as Adam.
	And she was like, why do I have to submit to you if we're made out of the same stuff?
	And then she left the Garden of Eden.
	Yeah, she would not get underneath Adam.
	Yeah.
	And so she flew off into the sky and then down into the ocean and they tried to bring her back.
	And there's like a whole lore behind it.
	They think that the legend was actually like post-Christianity, more of a like first few centuries after Christianity, Judaism type of a lore where it came from, but depends how you feel about that.
	But why do you think that she's cool?
	Like what do you like about her?
	So in my, I'll say this.
	One, I have a song called Lilith.
	It's actually, there's a whole music video and everything.
	But I actually do feel different about it now.
	I'm kind of going through this phase where I was in my toxic relationship and I was in a stage where I wanted to free myself and like I understood that.
	Like why am I submitting to someone that I don't feel is a leader?
	I'll say that.
	But now that I think about it, it's like there are men that are leaders and if you put yourself in that position, it's a different woman.
	But the woman that I felt that I related to was her because I was in a situation where I'm like, I shouldn't submit to this man.
	Why did you not want to submit to that guy?
	What was it about him?
	He didn't feel like I didn't respect him enough.
	Why?
	Because he was almost like full of air.
	I'll give you that.
	Where it's like he felt as though he was more respectable than he actually was.
	So do you feel like he wasn't responsible or he didn't have his stuff together or like that?
	Just kind of flying off the rails all the time.
	Oh, not in control of his emotions.
	Yeah.
	That'll dry your panties up quick.
	Very much so.
	I said, I'm going to leave this garden.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So I felt because why?
	That's like female energy, right?
	A guy who is not in control of his emotions and he's up and down and all over the place, kind of like we are.
	Right.
	It's not a good idea.
	It's feeling like we're made out of the same stuff.
	Right.
	So.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	So that's why we say no simping boys.
	Don't do it.
	Let me ask this question from a, I guess, a dating lens.
	So would you, I think most of you identified as feminist, if I recall.
	I said 50-50.
	50-50.
	I think you said yes.
	Yes.
	I think no.
	No?
	Okay.
	And then yes for you two.
	Would you date a guy who is not a feminist, starting with you?
	Yeah.
	Wait, into the mic, please.
	Yes.
	Just hearing the definitions that you guys have for it is making me think of it differently because the definition that I had was literally just, I just don't want to conform to having to listen to somebody that is not going to listen to me or like allowing somebody to lead that isn't actually a leader but just feels like they're a leader.
	You know, like I want to still make my own decisions and stuff like that and have like a brain of my own and not be like a brainless bimbo.
	Like that's that's what I was thinking it was.
	Okay.
	So what made you feel like it's a different definition?
	Like why do you feel like that might be different now?
	Well I do understand that men are leaders.
	Like I have a really healthy relationship with my father as my best friend.
	And then just like the things that I've been through, just putting it into perspective, like it's that's not somebody that I would want to allow to lead me.
	But if I found somebody that was a leader, then I would allow them to.
	Wait, did you say your dad is not somebody who or he is somebody?
	No, he is.
	I'm saying just like the things that I've been through and like relationships and stuff.
	Like if I found somebody that was actually a leader, then I would like.
	So what kind of qualities, like what would you be looking for in somebody who you felt was worth like submitting to?
	Someone that would be able to like take care of me in the aspects of emotionally and take care of things like rent and stuff like that and not feel like they want to go 50-50.
	I'm not into that at all.
	So this is a common thing I've seen.
	And I want to ask you guys, do you guys think that what you want, would you say what you want is you want the man to lead when it comes to doing difficult, dangerous, dirty things, paying bills, dealing with really awful situations, then he can lead.
	But if you're just in your feelings about something, you just want to do what you want to do, then you don't want him to lead.
	Because I feel like that's a really common thing.
	Okay.
	Well, I feel like, say for me, like I'm a singer, so I'm always out.
	Like, I'm networking and stuff like that.
	So I feel like I just have to be with somebody that would also be okay with me being out a lot and stuff like that.
	And just supporting the things that I want to do.
	So if you had a future partner that asked you to give up your singing and like raise your children, would you not do that?
	I mean, I would still raise my children, but I wouldn't give up what I love to do for anybody.
	Could you still sing though and not be trying to like necessarily make money in it?
	Like could you sing for yourself, for your family?
	You could sing at church, you could sing on Instagram, but maybe not be out at clubs networking all the time because you're at home with your kids?
	I feel like when I really make a name for myself, I wouldn't have to really network like that all the time, but I feel like it's just certain things that I'm just not willing to budge on.
	I just feel like my life is still going to be my life and I'm going to take care of the things that I'm supposed to take care of.
	But like if my partner doesn't want me to do something that I love, then I feel like that's not the person for me.
	So do you not believe in like sacrificing in a relationship or anything like that?
	Like do you feel that you, the person that you meet, how do I phrase this?
	Are you selfishly driven?
	Like do you, is it everything that you care about has to come first or would you sacrifice in a relationship?
	It just depends on what is being sacrificed because I understand that in a relationship there is a lot of give and take on both ends.
	But for me, it's just when it comes to something that genuinely makes me happy and stuff like that, like there's going to be late nights where I'm in the studio and you're probably not even going to believe where I am or whatever stuff like that.
	Like that happens and I just feel like I'm just not going, I'm not going to budge on certain things.
	So you just told us a whole kind of story about what your life's been like so far and what your relationships have been like so far.
	And it's been super volatile.
	You've had, would you say it's correct to say that you've had like no stability, no sense of peace, predictability, calm, like continuous like predictability in your relationships?
	It's been very all over the place.
	Yeah, pretty much.
	I feel like the only real good relationship that I did have was my ex that passed away.
	So and I was I feel like I was able to submit to him in ways like he took care of me emotionally very well and stuff like that.
	But we were young, like really young.
	There was no way that we could take care of each other in any other way and stuff like that.
	We couldn't see each other all the time and things like that either.
	Like we're both in school.
	So you realize that if you get the kind of guy you're saying you want, the kind of man who is going to create stability and continuity in your life, predictability, he's going to handle the business.
	He's going to pay the bills.
	He's going to make sure there aren't people coming in because you seem like a very sensitive and kind of emotional type of person, which is fine.
	You're a woman.
	There's reasons that we're like that.
	If you're going to be a mother, that's a good quality.
	But that's why you need a man who is like strong, steady, stable, and going to provide the stability.
	You realize he can't do that if you're going to say to him, I just feel like I need to be able to do what I feel like is going to make me happy.
	If you are chasing that, you're never going to have that stability and that continuity that you've been looking for, right?
	Like, if you're chasing feelings, he's not going to be able to, you're going to constantly be butting heads with him, and you're not going to be able to have that.
	Well, could I interject for a second?
	Sure.
	I find a lot of men have a lot of feelings, too.
	I mean, not to say there aren't strong men, of course, there are.
	But, you know, I mean, I dated a man who was not a feminist, and he was more in his feelings than he liked to admit, I think.
	And it showed.
	How did it show?
	I mean, he was insecure enough that he sought validation in other women.
	So.
	Wait, so it's not good to be an emotional man then?
	Well, I mean, because he didn't express that he was insecure, that he would bottle them up and not communicate to me what he was feeling, and then we'd argue.
	And he still wouldn't express all those things until something had already happened.
	Now, did he tell you why he didn't express his feelings to you?
	Of like whatever the dissatisfaction was that he said made him cheat?
	Did he tell you why he felt like he couldn't talk to you about it?
	I mean, I would ask, and, you know, he'd be like, well, I didn't feel validated because he's like, you're not giving me enough compliments.
	Or something like, I'm like, I feel like I give you a lot of compliments, but, you know, I'll try more.
	And it still didn't stop things from happening.
	It's, and that, of course, that conversation happened after he had already done something.
	And so these are conversations that need to happen beforehand.
	So he, what it sounds like to me is that he didn't have strong enough boundaries to begin with.
	Because if he was like a man who had strong boundaries, like my husband, if he was not happy, he wouldn't just like go cheat.
	He'd be like, this is what I expect, and this is what my needs are.
	And if you can't meet that, this is.
	He would.
	He did.
	He gave me a bunch of boundaries and morals, as he put it.
	And I would either abide or compromise on them.
	Because, you know, I believe that we need to have those conversations.
	But then he would, and he's like, whatever moral I set for you is also set for me.
	But then obviously these things happened.
	So what was it that he came to you and said, this is my boundary that you felt like some of the things you respected and other things you compromised on?
	Like, can you give me any specific examples?
	For example, let's see.
	He didn't want me to go out to the clubs with friends or whatever.
	Not that I was ever a very partying person, just but because I did it maybe once in a month, he was like, that's too much.
	Too much.
	I'm like, oh, I'm going to be surrounded with friends.
	He's like, I got to be there.
	And then I'm like, okay, hey, do you want to go with us?
	And be like, I don't want to go.
	And I was like, okay, well.
	And I'm like, well, then can I go with the friends?
	I'm like, no.
	And so one time he was like, okay, you can go this one time.
	It's just stuff like that.
	And another time, okay, he didn't want me to hang out with this guy friend I had for a very long time.
	I mean, I knew for 10 years.
	And I knew he wouldn't do anything.
	I mean, he's more into guys than he's ever into women.
	And he was homosexual.
	He's bi.
	Okay.
	And, but he is definitely more into men.
	And so, and I was like, hey, I'm going to hang out with him.
	I even, you know, communicated with him beforehand.
	I'm like, you gave me permission to hang out with this person before.
	So I am now communicating to you.
	This is someone I'm going to hang out with today.
	And He got really upset by that.
	And he was like, well, you didn't say you would be at their place.
	I'm like, yeah, but all their siblings are there.
	And so, I mean, like, did he say you hanging out with other dudes regardless of their sexual orientation is a deal breaker for me?
	Like, did he tell you that?
	Well, we, you know, went through my friends list and I was like, well, how do you feel about this person?
	How do you feel about that person?
	And I'm like, how do you feel about new people coming in?
	So we'd have those conversations.
	So if he had said that, if he had said, look, if I'm going to be in a relationship with you, I don't want you hanging out with dude friends without me.
	Like, if it's couples and we're hanging out together, that's fine.
	Or if we're in a group and there's guys in the group, that's fine.
	But I don't want you to go off with your guy friend.
	How would you have reacted to that?
	I mean, I'm not going to lie.
	I didn't like it.
	I didn't.
	But that was one of the compromises.
	So do you think you'd be attracted to a guy who liked, had no problem with you hanging out with other dudes?
	Do you think that you would still be attracted and like want a guy like that?
	I don't think I'd do it again.
	Because, you know, I know the friends I've made and I've not had a problem.
	Can I say something?
	Yeah.
	I feel like it all just comes down to trust.
	Like if you and your partner have an understanding of like, you wouldn't be doing anything if I'm not there.
	I'm not going to do anything if you're not there.
	Just like that understanding, it shouldn't be an issue if you want to hang out with your friends.
	I think that's lies that women tell themselves so that they can do what they want, to be honest.
	If I trust you.
	Because if you're in a committed relationship and if the purpose of the relationship is eventually marriage, which seems like you guys, even though you have very loose boundaries about relationships, like you're very open and you're really modern about things, like everybody kind of says they want to get married at a certain point.
	So it's like you're all saying, I want a strong man who's going to lead, who's got his shit together, who isn't in his feelings, who has, you know, if he has a boundary, he's going to be up front.
	He's not going to violate it later.
	But then on the other hand, you're like, but I also want him to let me hang out with my guy friends and I want him to be okay with me dabbling with women and I want him to let me do what I want when I want.
	Do you see like where I'm going with it?
	How it sounds like you guys kind of want the strong guy who's going to hold it together, but you also want him to like let you do whatever you want with this.
	Why does a man, you know, not wanting you to hang out with a guy friend equate to a strong man?
	Why does that make him a strong man?
	Why do I need a leash?
	Well, it depends.
	Do you want him hanging out with women when you're not?
	I didn't care.
	I communicated.
	Yeah.
	Now, okay, I hear what you're saying, but I pay attention to what women do, not what they say.
	So if you say, I'm fine with my boyfriend going off and hanging out with his girl who's a friend, it doesn't bother me.
	What I'm hearing is that's not a guy you really want.
	That's not a guy that you're actually into who really likes.
	Maybe you're speaking for yourself, but that's not for me.
	For me, that's not what happened.
	I, you know, I loved him.
	I wanted a whole future with him.
	But not enough to not hang out with the guy friends.
	But not enough.
	Remember, remember, I compromised.
	I didn't hang out with guy friends unless he said this is okay.
	Period.
	And I even went on my way and I'm like, hey, meet them.
	Assess them for yourself.
	All right, I agree.
	And yeah.
	Oh, you want to do that?
	I have a question.
	So you said that your most recent boyfriend cheated on you.
	I'm curious, did he cheat on you with a woman or with a man?
	With a woman?
	I mean.
	Because you said he's bi, right?
	No, no, no.
	That was the friend.
	Wait.
	The friend, the guy friend I have, that's not my boy, or ex, I should say.
	Yeah.
	I thought you were dating a bi.
	It sounded like I was supposed to hang out with the boyfriend.
	Okay, all right.
	Never mind.
	Go ahead.
	Continue with your.
	So, yeah, I mean, we compromised.
	And so, you know, I was even saying, hey, meet these friends, assess for yourself.
	Tell me who you're comfortable with, et cetera.
	I don't want to be disrespectful.
	You know, I get we have our differences and I want to respect that.
	But you know, so and he said this person in particular was okay.
	And so I was going to hang out with them.
	And then he got upset.
	And then I get a message from him saying, wait, why did he get upset?
	I don't know.
	Was it the case that you kind of pushed and pushed and pushed until he accepted that?
	And he was like, fine, you can hang out with the one guy, I guess, because he's mostly gay.
	Like, was it kind of like that?
	Or was it like, oh, no, Joey is fine.
	Hang out with Joey all you want.
	And then he just randomly got upset for no reason?
	No, I mean, this was something we agreed to for a long time, and it finally came down.
	And mind you, the whole hangout that I was supposed to happen was supposed to be kind of just professional.
	I was helping him with a film project.
	And yes, it was going to be at his home, but he has this home with a bunch of other siblings.
	And it wasn't just going to be him.
	And I wasn't going to his room.
	I have never been in his room, actually.
	And.
	So why do you get upset?
	Is what I'm trying to say.
	Because he wasn't aware at the time that I was going to the apartment.
	Okay, sure, I didn't say that.
	But I mean, I explained the situation to him, and he was still upset.
	And then he was like, okay, you know what?
	I'm going to hang out with a friend.
	I'm like, friend, define friend.
	And so he said it was a woman.
	I was like, okay, what's her name?
	And her name is Hannah.
	And then I was like, I've never heard you mention her before.
	And he's like, oh, yeah, I met her yesterday at Journey's.
	She was helping me buy a shoe.
	I'm like, and suddenly this is a friend you're going to hang out with one-on-one.
	And he's like, yeah, you shouldn't have a problem with that.
	You got to hang out with your friend.
	I'm like, that's different.
	That's a total stranger.
	You don't know her.
	I don't know her.
	So it sounds to me like he was trying to give you a taste of your own medicine so you could feel how he was.
	It's a total stranger that he had never even really met.
	Maybe it was, but I mean, statistically, you're more likely to cheat with a guy who's your friend.
	Sure, and I didn't know that.
	I understand that.
	I'm not going to disagree.
	If you know someone who's familiar, it does make it easier.
	You know, but in this case, yeah, it was a total stranger.
	And I know he was trying to give me a taste of my own medicine, but it's a completely different situation.
	I know my friend for 10 years.
	This is someone he met yesterday.
	And this is someone we had a communication about.
	This is someone we never spoke about, never even knew.
	And so it's those kind of things, if that makes any kind of sense.
	Yeah, it makes sense.
	I feel like it's a situation that completely could have been avoided, though.
	And I think that if you are trying to date someone seriously, you shouldn't be hanging out with people of the opposite sex, period.
	It doesn't matter.
	I will say I personally have never hung out with a guy friend one-on-one when I'm in a relationship.
	I don't do that.
	But what I will say is that if I have a guy friend that I knew before in my relationship and I introduce them and we hang out together, I think that is fine.
	Well, let's continue going around the table.
	So would you date a guy who's not a feminist?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	I don't think I would.
	You wouldn't?
	Okay, what about you?
	Could you explain what a feminist is?
	Well, I mean, didn't you describe yourself as a feminist?
	Could you explain a little?
	Well, okay, so I would argue that the most charitable definition, at least the most charitable definition I would give feminism, is it's a woman's advocacy movement.
	That's the most charitable definition I give it.
	I don't even believe it's in the most charitable form.
	It's a movement for equality.
	I think it's a woman's advocacy movement.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	I don't think it has any interest in equality, though.
	So, yeah, it's women's advocacy.
	Both of you guys are not.
	The reality, but that's me being charitable.
	Argue the reality of feminism is it's something along the lines of women's advocacy steeped in conspiracy theories, and there's bare minimum like some degree of male bigotry, bias, even misandry, hatred of men.
	Yeah, that's my more accurate sense of what feminism is.
	Okay, can I change my answer?
	I don't think that I'm a feminist.
	Good job.
	I'm noticing a pattern.
	Are you noticing a pattern?
	They all say they're a feminist, and then when we further define, they're like, no, I don't want to identify with that, right?
	But then when we get probing questions going, we kind of find out that they are feminists.
	Let me ask a couple questions that could perhaps help with this.
	So you've got a boyfriend over here.
	I do.
	With him, or just like if you were ever to go back out there and date, who do you think should pay on the first date?
	The man or the woman?
	Like the very first date?
	Yeah, first date.
	I mean, I guess if he's taking you out, then he could pay for it.
	But throughout the relationship, I feel like it shouldn't just be him.
	Okay, so first date should be the guy.
	What about the first few dates?
	I would split.
	I would offer, like when we were first starting to date, I would like, if he pays for the dinner, then maybe I'll get dessert.
	Okay, so we would pay for 80% and you would pay for 20% of the bill?
	Typically, if my understanding of eating out, dessert is typically going to be a fraction of the maybe it's $5.
	It doesn't have to be like dinner and dessert.
	It could be like, if we're going to the movies, then he could buy the tickets or then I'll get the snacks.
	With your boyfriend for the first date, did he pay for it?
	I'm pretty sure he got the tickets and I got the snacks.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	If you end up on the first date with the guy, would you like him to pay or are you okay 50-50?
	I'm okay with 50-50 for like the first date, yeah.
	What about dates beyond the first date?
	I think it would be like, it shouldn't have to be like exactly 50-50, but I'm okay with like you, like if we're like more serious about it, like we just kind of like pay for each other and it's not like something like super like strict, I guess.
	Okay, he gets one, you get one.
	Yeah, kind of like that.
	What about you?
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely what?
	Pay on the first date.
	The guy should pay on the first date.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Yes, the guy should pay on the first date.
	The guy should pay on the first date.
	I don't think so.
	I mean, look, if they're asking for, they're like, I want to take you to a super expensive restaurant.
	I don't have the money for that.
	I'm going to communicate that.
	And if they're like, okay, then let's go somewhere cheaper, cool.
	That's fine with me.
	I don't care.
	Okay.
	But I will split.
	That's fair.
	Okay.
	So if he's asking you somewhere expensive, then yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Who Who should pay?
	Men.
	Men should pay.
	Okay.
	Didn't you say you were feminist?
	Feminist, feminist, feminist?
	Not a feminist.
	Not a feminist.
	Feminist.
	Here's another question that we can kind of figure out here.
	Should women be drafted.
	This is in efforts to figure out if you guys are feminist or not.
	Should women be drafted in the military?
	Like, by drafting, do you mean like when you turn 18, like you're automatically?
	Okay, yeah, so men have to register for the selective service.
	Currently, there's not a draft in the United States, but all men in the United States at 18, in order to be able to vote and have other benefits, they have to register for the selective service, which would then make them subject to military conscription in the case that there was a military conflict which required a draft.
	So do you think women should be subject to selective service draft force?
	Absolutely not.
	Absolutely not.
	Okay.
	I wouldn't even choose women to like fight for our country unless that's like that's their thing.
	You know, like if you're like that type of woman that you feel like you're stronger and stuff like that.
	But I just feel like no.
	Okay.
	What do you think?
	Well, hold on.
	So you think they should be drafted based on how they feel?
	No, I'm not saying that at all.
	I'm saying like willingly if you just want to volunteer.
	She's saying if they want to volunteer.
	Well, they all just really want to volunteer.
	Yeah, yeah.
	If they want to volunteer, yes.
	Yeah, but then yeah, that just defeats the purpose.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	I mean, well, that's what we currently have.
	Yeah, but yeah, I guess we should be drafted because I mean, okay.
	I mean, plenty of men don't want to join.
	Okay.
	Plenty of men.
	I'm plenty of men, plenty of women.
	Don't matter.
	Okay.
	If we got to do what we got to do, I mean, yeah.
	Now, here's the interesting thing.
	You guys both have different opinions on this.
	I still don't know which is actually like the actual feminist position because we'll have feminists who will argue.
	It's actually, we had one last week with Andrew who said, well, it's not equitable.
	It's not equity for women to be drafted.
	That's a whole nother thing.
	But what about you?
	No.
	No?
	Okay.
	No, women should not be drafted.
	Should not be drafted?
	No.
	But they should be paid equally in sporting events?
	No comment.
	Okay.
	No.
	They shouldn't be drafted?
	I don't think so.
	Well, hold on.
	Okay, so everybody except Anza said women shouldn't be drafted.
	But y'all want to be equal?
	So wait a sec.
	How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?
	The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure, right?
	Like none of this stuff in the studio is built or maintained by women.
	Do you know that like 90% of infrastructure jobs are still held by men?
	And that if you look at the top 20 jobs held by women now in 2024 versus 1924 are almost the exact same.
	So women have had 100 years to do whatever they want and they still do the same 20 jobs they did 100 years ago other than we switched out farm labor for HR work.
	But other than that, we're secretaries, nurses, daycare ladies, early childhood education, administrative assistants, retail workers, all the same shit that we were a century ago.
	So if the men are the ones tasked with every time there's a natural disaster, they have to go out and rescue people from the fires and the floodwaters.
	And every time there's a war, the men have to go and fight it and defend the country.
	And anytime there's a criminal who needs to be violently arrested, it's going to be a man who goes and does that and not a woman.
	Where does the equality come in?
	If we're doing the fluffy jobs, you know, we're all singers.
	We got a lot of singers and musicians, which is cool.
	It's great.
	I love music too.
	But y'all ain't like rescuing people and, you know, doing the heavy lifting or the dirty or the dangerous jobs.
	Like who collects the trash?
	Men.
	You know, who Does all the steel working and oil rig work and all of the like sewer cleaning?
	Then we have a video on this, Rachel, actually.
	Nick, remember that video we were looking at yesterday?
	I think it might still be on one of the tabs.
	Let's watch this.
	No audio.
	No audio.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, there's no audio.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Are you ready to work on an oil rig?
	All right.
	Come on, feminists.
	Get in there.
	You can't do it.
	Those are some roughnecks.
	Come on, ladies.
	Ladies, anyone?
	Andrew had to do stuff like that back in the day.
	They'd lower him.
	Underwater welding, I guess.
	Not underwater, but they would lower him into these tiny little horrifically frightening spaces to do extremely dangerous stuff.
	I'm claustrophobic.
	I really feel like women should just have the choice to do if they want to, because I know some women that can handle it.
	They do have the choice and they're not doing it.
	They do, and they're not doing it.
	They don't want to.
	I mean, this is the big secret, right?
	Is that women don't want to do any of this dirty, dangerous, scary stuff?
	They don't want to.
	Well, yeah, but is that just, you know, what we've been raised with, the culture we're surrounded by?
	No, and I have data to back this up.
	So if you...
	Oh, is there more, Nick?
	Just let it play.
	Yeah, we'll just let it play.
	So back around the time of suffrage, we're talking like 1850s to 1920, roughly around there when the big suffrage movement was happening.
	Did you guys know that most women were completely against it?
	By all of the referendums that they would do where they would let women vote on whether they wanted to vote, only about 4% actually had any interest in voting.
	And they actually had really good reasons for this.
	There was much higher membership in anti-suffrage groups than pro-suffrage groups.
	And these groups would do public debates.
	They would do written debates, newspaper periodicals where they would go back and forth and debate these things.
	And the women who were against suffrage said, look, the primary purpose of government is to protect persons and property.
	Why task women with that when we're not really capable of doing that?
	We don't want to have to be drafted.
	We don't want to have to do jury duty.
	We don't want to have to be a political block because back then women had advocacy groups for things they wanted, but they weren't a lobbying group.
	They didn't have voting rights, so they weren't able to be as easily politicized.
	They felt like they had a moral high ground to ask for things like, we need more parks, we need better schools, we need clean air, whatever it was.
	And that if they became just another voting block, they would be involved in dirty politics and they didn't want to do that.
	They felt like somebody has to be morally neutral and not involved in politics.
	So given all of that, do you guys think that women can protect and defend persons and property?
	Sure.
	I mean, well, first of all, I want to go back to the fact that for a long time, women weren't allowed to own property, or at least not without being married.
	And so.
	Actually, it was the opposite.
	It was once you got married, you generally, whatever belonged to you belonged to you.
	Sure, but then usually the woman is still living with the family.
	Right, but why would you, so think about why.
	Why would you live on your own?
	Why do you think women didn't own property?
	Do you think it was just the patriarchy?
	Like, just women, I'm not saying wanted to put their boot on their neck and keep them down.
	I generally don't think that.
	I generally think it was just a matter of the times.
	Like, you know, because it was, I mean.
	So do you think there was a reason, though?
	Do you think there was a logic behind not letting people?
	I think it worked for back then.
	I think it worked for what it is at that point in time.
	No, I don't think you understand what I'm saying.
	So if you're a woman and you own land and it's 1802 and bandits or cattle robbers or Indians come and they say, we're taking your land, what are you going to do about it?
	But that's exactly my point.
	That worked for that time.
	Okay, what's different now?
	We don't have that as much.
	I mean, it depends on the neighborhood, of course.
	I mean, it depends as a community.
	Okay, so if you own land now in 2024 and you have a squatter who comes and squats on your property and you need them removed, I did.
	Do you call, do you call ladies to come and physically remove them, or are there men who come and physically remove them?
	So I had a subleaser who I needed to get rid of, and I did all of it.
	My landlord didn't do anything.
	Okay, what did you do?
	I went to the court and I got the papers.
	I took her to court.
	I won.
	Oh, wait, is a woman squatter?
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	Well, okay.
	Did you physically remove her or did cops come?
	Well, did she willingly, after the judgment from the court, she willingly left.
	So, okay.
	The lease was up.
	She refused to leave.
	And so, you know, I got the paperwork.
	I gave her the three-day notice to vacate, which is the proper way to...
	Right, you're going through the eviction process.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	And so then, you know, she was still like, that's not right.
	It's totally illegal, even though I got it literally from the courthouse.
	And so then we're like, okay, let's get the property eviction papers.
	Mind you, we still had the papers escorted by cops.
	So did you both went to the court and there was like the eviction trial?
	Yeah, and we did.
	Well, I mean, we want the eviction trial.
	So she did leave within the five days of receiving the eviction.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	But so let's say she stayed there, right?
	Yeah.
	Because I think this is what Rachel is getting at.
	Let's say she stayed there.
	You even won the eviction case.
	The judge did an order.
	I don't know.
	Typically after the eviction, I think they have another period of time.
	It depends on the state.
	It can be 10 days, 30 days, whatever it is.
	And then the cops will come after a certain period of time and then forcibly remove the person.
	I think what Rachel's trying to get at is who's going to forcibly remove the person, whether man or woman, even after getting a judgment from a court, they still refuse to leave.
	Right, okay.
	So in this case, because she left within the five days, I didn't have to have the sheriff remove her.
	But I mean, at least when I was giving the papers, the cops that were there were men and women.
	Yes, primarily men.
	But there were women.
	I mean, who's to say there can't be more?
	You're talking about the process server?
	So you served her with the...
	So it was my mother who served her, but because of the threats she was making, we had her escorted by foot patrol.
	Ah, and that was not like a bunch of strong, independent women who marched.
	It was a man and a woman.
	Okay.
	And if it had just been a woman.
	Do you see what I'm getting at?
	Do you see like who defends our national borders?
	Not a bunch of feminists, right?
	The use of force is still always going to be menace.
	I mean, of course, like when you come in.
	Men are taller and bigger, of course.
	They're going to have that physical.
	Well, I always got it.
	I always understood.
	I mean, going back to the sports things, I mean, the men are going to be able to do things that, you know, women just physically can't.
	So when we talk about equality, the only equality women have is the illusion of equality granted to them and provided for them by men.
	Sure.
	I mean, that's why I think it depends on the context when it comes to equality, personally.
	If you have to appeal to men and say, men, let us be equal.
	We demand equality.
	And the men go, fine, we'll enforce equality for is that really equality?
	Well, that's why I think it depends on how it is being handled.
	Personally, I think.
	So it's up to the men.
	Basically.
	It's always going to when you're in the middle of the moment.
	Well, because they're already in that position.
	I mean, if that was, I mean, if we could flip it, and then they'd have to ask us, right?
	Oh, okay, okay.
	So you think we could put women on all the oil rigs and we could put women in the Senate, we could put women in the military as generals, we could make them sheriffs, and that would work out fine.
	Yeah.
	Do you think so?
	Okay, so.
	I mean, well, here's the thing.
	I mean, I mean, okay, for example, I remember watching this one show.
	I think it was called Stars and Stripes.
	And it took a bunch of celebrities and put them in the position of military.
	It had men and had women.
	The person who ended up winning was the skier Peekaboo Streets.
	And she was a woman.
	She beat out actually Sarah Palin.
	She ended up beating out Sarah Palin's husband.
	And this is a reality show.
	Where's this going?
	Where is this going?
	Well, for example, she ended up winning.
	But they were all put in position of military and she ended up winning.
	It was a woman.
	So do you think that men and women are the same?
	I don't think they're the same.
	I don't.
	Again, I think physically there are differences.
	Okay.
	Just physically, though?
	Like, you don't think that men have certain strengths and women have certain strengths and they each have like different divinely appointed roles in existence?
	Well, I mean, I'm an atheist, personally.
	Okay.
	Well, not, okay.
	Do you think that they have appointed roles in society in order for society to be mostly successful?
	I think that's how it's come to be.
	So can I ask you another question?
	Do you think that women are happier today or do you think that they were happier before all of this stuff?
	I think because it's proven that women are way less happier today.
	Okay, but is that just the stats we're looking at now as in like those are the stats we're taking?
	That's just ignorance is bliss.
	Yeah, because I mean, for example, like people like to make the argument that, you know, we're seeing a rise in autism.
	Okay, is it the fact that there's a rise in autism or did we just not take into account the fact that we didn't know what it was before?
	Well, so I think people know.
	I can actually explain this because it's like my area of specialty.
	There's surveys that were done, like very large-scale surveys that were done in the 70s and then again in the 90s and then again in the early 2000s.
	So the first one that came out was called the paradox of female happiness where when they surveyed women all over the West and asked them if they were how what their satisfaction levels were, a ton of different metrics were used.
	In the 70s, pretty good, pretty happy, not a lot wrong.
	By the time we get to the 90s and they repeat the survey, women are declining in happiness in the places that they have the most freedom, the most egalitarian society.
	So the places where women have the most equality are the places where we see them not only reporting that they have higher levels of self-unhappiness, but also we see a rise in alcoholism, fetal alcohol syndrome, depression, anxiety, prescription drug use.
	Every metric they look at, women are reporting that they are less happy.
	Now there's a lot of reasons we could talk about why that might be, but I think people don't understand that when women are trying to be equal, it makes life pretty impossible.
	You end up thinking you can have it all, do it all, be it all.
	Your expectations are wildly high, and you expect that you're going to be able to have a husband and a family and a career and do whatever you want, but also have a man who's going to take care of stuff.
	And these things all contradict each other.
	These things do not mesh together well.
	On top of that, women are more emotionally volatile.
	We have a hormonal cycle every month that fluctuates.
	We have pre-menopause.
	We have postpartum.
	We have a lot of ups and downs and no halves.
	Why does that make us more emotional?
	And I'm genuinely asking.
	I'm not going to be able to do literal hormone.
	Hold on.
	I know, I know.
	But, I mean, for example, let's look at history here.
	So much war has been caused by men.
	Well, I have something for this, actually.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, they looked at monarchs, for example, kings and queens, and they actually found that queens were just as or even more likely to wage war than kings.
	Oh, I'm not disagreeing.
	I think there's some real messed up women in history too, truly.
	No, but they did like an analysis here.
	I'm not just saying there were some queens.
	They just comparing all of the, I don't know if it was the English monarchs, the British monarchs.
	I don't recall exactly the specific details of this analysis they did, but they did find that queens were more likely to wage war than kings.
	Okay.
	I just wanted to put that in there.
	Sure, sure.
	I mean, are we looking at it statistically as in, I mean, let's be real, there were probably still more kings in history than there were ever, like queens that were really in charge.
	Per capita.
	Okay, so it is per capita.
	Okay.
	I mean, I can't speak to that personally.
	So why would we think that men are going to start more war if women are more emotionally volatile and less rational and less logical on average?
	Well, maybe we'd know that if we were taught more about those women as well.
	Because I mean, personally, I mean, I'm just going to be honest with you.
	I mean, how many women in history can we actually name?
	A ton.
	Well, I mean, talking in that specific position to cause a war.
	I mean, I'm an Orthodox Christian and we have tons of different queens and princesses and women who were in various leadership positions and waged horrific war on their enemies.
	Sure.
	I mean, it's just usually, I mean, we see, you know, queens that are just with a king.
	Yes.
	Oh.
	You're getting.
	Sorry, sorry.
	Well, that would be, I could give you that, except that in the modern age, we have a whole bunch more data that proves that this is not the case.
	For example, when you look at juvenile correction facilities or women's prisons.
	So we were just talking about how men have the monopoly on force.
	So men in male prisons, things like that.
	Generally, men grow up using physical force.
	And when they're little, they do rough and tumble play with their dad, with their siblings, with their friends, and they kind of learn where the boundaries are of like, how much can I beat up my friend before I go too far and actually cause harm.
	So they tend to learn that young and it has an impact.
	Women don't have those same experiences.
	So what we see is that when women do have the monopoly on force, for instance, when you are a female guard in a juvenile facility or a female guard in a women's prison, the women guards are far more likely to be abusive and the abuse tends to be worse than men.
	I have heard that.
	They do think it's partially because of our emotional volatility, our hormonal fluctuations, and also just because women tend to be more likely to be on prescription psychiatric medications, have mental illnesses, and just be less used to knowing where the boundary is.
	So when women lose their shit and get physical, they tend to escalate to a point that's a lot of what I'm saying.
	Can I ask, is some of this maybe because, you know, also we hear a lot that women don't get the resources they need in the medical field.
	You mean like mental health-wise?
	I'm not talking necessarily mental health.
	Like for me personally, I took years to get diagnosed with chronic illness.
	Okay.
	And there's a lot of that.
	And there's also not as much like research on women in medicine.
	Like, again, going back to autism, how does that relate to like the wool islands?
	I think I kind of know what you're talking about a little bit.
	I'd like to offer up a bit of a rebuttal.
	So I think you're talking perhaps about how there's less testing of certain drugs or like less things are tested on women.
	My rebuttal, though, there would be, well, one thing that's a concern is if you're testing an experimental drug on somebody, if the woman happens to be pregnant, but she doesn't know it, there could be ramifications there when it comes.
	Because for example, some medications are not recommended if you're pregnant.
	For example, so if you're testing something experimental, the woman doesn't know she's pregnant.
	You know, obviously it could be very rare that, you know, she's happened to be partaking in the trial and she's pregnant.
	That could be one of the justifications for why they're more inclined to test things on men.
	There's also like this component of, well, women, when women's hormones tend to shift a bit more throughout their cycle.
	So I think it's better to test on someone who has their own.
	And I get this.
	But the other thing is, it's not clear to me if it's some privilege to have to be tested on to have like experimental drugs tested on you.
	That seems like it would be a negative, like a more men are so desperate for money and resources that they're willing to have experimental drugs tested on them.
	I think if it was actually the reverse, if it was 100 percent women where we were testing drugs on them, there would be a huge outcry from feminists saying, wait, why are we like subjugating women specifically to this this, you know, drug treatment?
	That seems like I get what you're saying.
	I mean, I personally wouldn't be opposed to that.
	If it was 100% women.
	Yeah, I honestly think it's kind of necessary.
	Sure, but I feel like feminists would just argue and be like, wait, hold on.
	This is like, look at how this is unfair.
	Like, why are women?
	You're not going to hear that from me personally.
	All right, well, that's fine.
	But, no, I mean, for example, this is a more minor thing, but like, okay, why has okay, recently, when they test like tampons or pads, it's only now they're using real menstrual blood rather than like water or like I just wonder how this gets back to what we were debating, which was why okay,
	so women defend persons and property.
	Yeah, to tie back to that, if a hurricane takes out half the eastern seaboard, are the women going to get out there and get the power lines back up and put the sandbags out and rescue people from the floodwaters and rebuild everything?
	I mean, I would certainly hope so.
	No, they can't.
	I can't do it.
	They can't do it.
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	So you claimed men are more dangerous and advocate for women, yet want examples of powerful women abusing power.
	Use Google Image, search for teacher arrested for SA.
	90% are images of women in power.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	I mean, there's definitely a lot of that.
	A couple quick things.
	Rachel, you were talking about how aggression tends to manifest, especially young boys, for example.
	Would you, I don't know if you're kind of familiar with this, like how men's aggression, especially at an early age, tends to manifest itself more in the physical realm.
	But isn't it the case that women's aggression will manifest?
	It might not manifest itself in the physical realm, but it will still manifest itself regardless.
	So reputation destruction.
	Yeah, women use subterfuge, manipulation, gossip, that sort of thing, because, right, if you can't use physical force to get your way, those are the things you're doing.
	No, that's true.
	I mean, that's something we see in history as well.
	Yeah, I have a question.
	Yeah.
	Sorry.
	Wait, one more thing, actually.
	One more thing.
	Also, when it comes to like physical, were we talking about like violence at all?
	I don't know if that was kind of that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like military, and then we, yeah.
	So, I mean, what do you think about this?
	I mean, you're saying, well, men throughout history have been a bit more violent.
	So I saw this.
	I've seen the stat a couple times.
	So if we're looking at heterosexual couples, lesbian couples and gay couples, we actually find that, for example, gay couples, so two men in a relationship, the rate of domestic violence is actually lowest amongst homosexual gay men.
	It's in the middle for heterosexual couples, and the incidence rate of domestic violence in lesbian couples is actually the highest.
	Okay.
	So that's an interesting thing because when you have two men, you would think, well, men tend to be more violent.
	Why is it then when you put two men in a relationship?
	The incidence of violence, domestic violence is the lowest.
	Okay, can I play devil's advocate?
	When there's two women together, it's the highest.
	Can I play devil's advocate for a second?
	Go ahead.
	Okay, so we like to typically, I think, make out anyone who's, let's say, gay to be, well, they're more feminine.
	And then we look at women who are lesbian and we're like, well, they're more masculine.
	So is that in the brain what's making that happen then?
	This is similar to what I wanted to ask.
	Do we believe that...
	I mean, that's a fair question, but go ahead.
	Like every female, well, first of all, women and men, we both have testosterone and estrogen, right?
	Yeah.
	And it can be imbalanced.
	So I feel like it depends on the person and we can't like box everything in.
	Well, yeah, we can take a look at statistical averages.
	And another important data point is that although when men tend to do domestic violence, the damage can be greater, women are more likely to initiate domestic violence than men, and men are less likely to report it than women are.
	Because they're less likely to be believed.
	I want to go back to the draft really quick.
	Yeah, go for it.
	I wanted to go back to you two guys.
	I think both of you said no, women shouldn't be drafted.
	I was just curious, why not?
	I think because there's a difference between men and women.
	Men are, you know, physically stronger.
	And like, I feel like, I don't know, if you enlist everybody, then.
	So can I ask you a question, a follow-up on that?
	So you say men are physically stronger.
	Do you think then, if that's the case, if women shouldn't be subject to forced military conscription, should women be barred from volunteering for the military?
	No.
	I think.
	Well, so why are they barred from forced military conscription, but they're able to volunteer?
	Because it occurs to me, like, for example, in peacetime, I mean, or in wartime, there could perhaps be a greater need for more soldiers.
	Whereas in peacetime.
	Do you need them?
	Women just joined the military so they can get free college.
	Wait, so, but, okay, but so men are stronger.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Even though the benefit isn't really even happening anymore.
	And then what about you?
	You said women should not be drafted.
	Why is that?
	Well, when I said it was for the same reason that men are physically stronger.
	And I was for what you said about volunteering.
	I feel like the women who choose to volunteer would have like would be physically strong as well.
	But like, like.
	Oh, were you going to come in on this?
	Okay, well, then, okay, yeah, I'm not going to deny men are physically stronger.
	That's just a thing.
	But then, you know, you were saying how women have to use their brain because they've got to make up for what they lack in strength, right?
	So then, who's to say that the brains can't be used in situations in the military as well?
	Well, that would be a great point as well, except for this thing called greater male variability, which if you look at, you can look at a number of different metrics.
	I was just on Tim Cast and we were talking about grip strength as an example.
	But you can do it with IQ, you can do it with all different measures of aptitude.
	And what we see is that women tend to cluster around the mean more than men.
	And there's this small percentage of men in anything that are so much better at everybody else that it's like not even close.
	So as a woman, if you're trying to be a CEO, a general in the military, a strategist in the military, trying to be a police officer, a detective, anything like that, you're going to have to compete with this tiny top tier of men that is going to be so far ahead of you that the odds of you beating them are very,
	very small, which is why, even after 100 years of equality, we don't see a lot of women at the top of these highly competitive pursuits, like being a CEO, like being a four-star general in the military, like being the president, things like that.
	So it's one of the differences that makes it really tough for women to compete.
	So even if you're very smart for a woman, you may not be able to compete with that top tier of men.
	Statistically.
	So you're saying men are just naturally smarter.
	Well, I'm saying that that's variability.
	Yes.
	Nick, can you pull that up?
	We'll just look at it.
	So there's this, this is like, Nick, can you make us smaller, please?
	Yeah.
	And then I'm also going to find you just the article.
	Hold on.
	I'm sending that to you in private chat.
	Pull that up, please.
	Get it quick if you can.
	So it's this idea that I think, isn't it even the case that women are on average smarter?
	Yes.
	Or is it?
	There's more of us that are in that middle gathering around the women.
	So I'll read this really quick.
	But the men who are smartest are way ahead.
	The variability hypothesis, also known as the greater male variability hypothesis, is the hypothesis that males generally display greater variability in traits than females.
	Pull that one back up, Nick, the chart.
	Just click on it.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So basically what they're saying is that there's more stupid men.
	There's like real, there's a lot more dumb, dumb men.
	Sure.
	But there's like also like a greater proportion of like really, really smart men.
	Okay.
	But then there's like more women who are in the middle.
	Right.
	Okay, then that kind of goes back to my point, though.
	Then if there's more women in the middle, then what's the harm then of actually, because that means we're having greater odds of having smart women than we are, we're risking more by having a, I'm not saying smart women can't do smart girl things.
	I'm a smart woman who does smart girl things.
	But when we're talking about who should be like at the apex of society running things, generally men are going to have the monopoly on force, strength, cognitive skills, leadership skills, social skills.
	They're just that top bit of men are going to be so far ahead.
	Okay, but going back to your point then, then how does that affect the draft?
	Because that's not the top tier.
	But the draft is just you have to be physically capable and like you are a tiny girl.
	If you had to jump in tomorrow and do the PT prescriptions that men have a lot of military.
	Yeah.
	And I'm like a really strong girl.
	I've done powerlifting and weightlifting for years.
	I've got like a 250 pound for five reps deadlift right now.
	I've got a 200 pound squat, but you put me next to a man who's my size that doesn't even train and he's going to whoop my ass.
	But for example, like what if there's an emergency situation when you're out in the field?
	You know, we're allowed, I think I'm okay to say this a little more likely to see a man just kind of like root his way through it rather than like, okay, think, how can we problem solve this so nobody gets more injured or in a less risky situation, I should say.
	You know, so you think that on average women are more strategic than that?
	No, I'm not saying strategic, but I mean, if we're looking at like, you know, the mean average of, you know, the brain kind of thing, sorry, Then wouldn't it be fair to say that they're gonna be more able to look at those situations better than the average we're seeing based off the graph you gave us?
	I'm not really sure what you're asking.
	So, in those risky situations, then if the mean average is that you know the women are gonna overall have a decent IQ, then They'd be more likely to handle those risky situations where we really need to think about it than, say, the average we're going to find.
	That's not really how it works.
	And when you're entering the military, they test you.
	Sure.
	So if you're below a certain IQ, you're not going to be in the field doing certain things for that reason.
	We assess risk differently.
	Right.
	And men do not take as much time to assess those risks and they just jump right in.
	Well, women are more risk averse, but usually in a military situation, that's going to be bad.
	Well, yes.
	No, you want to be on your toes because, of course, you never know what's going to happen.
	Women are very conflict avoidant, and on average, they don't want to be in the military.
	Well, here's the thing then.
	Then why is there a problem having an equal amount, like an equal opportunity for drafting men and drafting women?
	So that means we're having equal risk takers and equal, maybe not risk takers.
	Do you want that fair bit of?
	What you're telling me is all throughout human history, armies have been made of men.
	And now, because it's 2024 and technology, we should put all of, like, look at the table of ladies here.
	You all are lovely.
	You're probably great singers.
	You're beautiful.
	But do I want you on the front lines fighting?
	No, I don't.
	Sure, I get that.
	I see what you're saying.
	Women on the front lines.
	I'm a feminist.
	So she's a good person.
	Send them.
	You know what?
	I think we do a total switch up.
	Men don't get to get drafted, and we just draft to the women, use the women as me shields for a little bit.
	Soften the enemy up a little bit.
	Then the men can come in.
	I think something that's interesting.
	We'll take care of it.
	The women soften them up.
	I think something that's interesting is that you're saying we have equal portions of men and women entering the military.
	But then what you would have to do is you would have to separate those roles once they enter the military.
	But then it's not equal anymore.
	What is the point of doing that?
	I do what Getcher is saying.
	Well, I mean, if, okay, based off the physical stuff like we're talking about, again, I think that would have to depend on the women.
	I mean, look at some of the women in the Olympics.
	They could totally do it, right?
	Could they?
	Like who?
	I mean, we're also.
	I'm also outliers as well.
	I know there are outliers.
	So when we're talking about this kind of stuff, you have to think about in general, the women in general and bigger numbers.
	Sure.
	Olympians are.
	I'm not denying that.
	I think, if anything, if we are going to have a draft with women, we need to, I mean, we all have to go through a physical, even if we're being drafted, right?
	So, I mean, we then assess, okay, what can we best put them to?
	Well, then, like, most women are not going to meet the requirements.
	And remember that they've opened up all of the special forces to women for, what, 20, 30 years now, 20 years, something like that.
	Not a single woman has been able to pass Navy SEALs or Buds or like the different Green Beret training.
	Women just can't do it.
	Well, and going along with that.
	Going along with that, I wouldn't want them to lower that standard so that women could.
	No, no, no.
	But here's the thing.
	Oh, they have to do like a different standard.
	It is a different standard.
	And this isn't just for the military.
	It's for police force and firefighters.
	Like, I think for the military, you know, there's a speed test in terms of being able to complete a mile or a half.
	This is the thing is, girls.
	Women always will say, like, we want to be equal.
	So you have to let us do these things.
	First of all, if they have to let you, it's not equal.
	Second of all, if they have to lower the standard for you to get in, it's also not equal.
	So it's all just this illusion, this silly illusion, and I don't want to, I'm sick of it.
	I think that in the not so distant future, a few generations from now, they're going to look back on this feminist experiment and go, whoa, that was a disaster.
	Glad we got rid of that because it's simply not sustainable.
	We can't even keep going with it because birth rates have tanked.
	So either maybe it won't go away and then humanity will just go extinct.
	There will be a reset.
	And people always ask me what I think it'll be, and I think it's going to be painful and ugly.
	There's like a couple ways it could go, but it's not going to be fun for anyone when it happens.
	Whoever gets AI first or in trouble.
	I don't know.
	It could be China.
	Who knows what happens?
	Okay.
	One thing related to this, just, I don't know.
	Who's physically stronger, men or women, starting with you?
	Well, men.
	I haven't denied it.
	It is still men.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Just wanted to check here.
	We've heard some women girls.
	There are some weenie men.
	And I'll even grant, there are certainly there are women out there who can be stronger than men.
	Oh, yeah, I'm sure.
	Women lift more than that.
	Yeah.
	But I saw that grip strength thing, and we've pulled that up before, too.
	I mean, but I mean, the vast majority of men are stronger than women.
	So, anyways, let's see.
	Let's get into actually kind of sort of related to the feminist conversation a little bit.
	I don't know if we'll linger too long on the actual debate of it, but I do at least want to get your answers.
	So the question is.
	Oh, after this.
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	Do the ladies believe in evolution?
	If so, men evolved into their role because men have been primarily on the front lines and pushed mentally and physically.
	Join a SEAL team, ladies.
	Okay, Ben George, thank you, man.
	Do you believe in evolution?
	Yes.
	Yes and no.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Yep.
	I don't know.
	What is the LDS?
	I was just thinking about that because we believe in Adam and Eve.
	And I have had discussions with family members about this, but I don't feel like I've ever gotten an answer.
	So I don't know.
	Okay, what about you?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	I don't.
	Don't believe in evolution?
	No.
	Wait, aren't you a bio major?
	Yes.
	Rachel?
	No, evolution is fake and gay.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Okay, thank you, Ben George.
	Appreciate it, bro.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay.
	let's see here we have yes Okay, man or bear.
	Would you rather come across a random man or a random bear in the woods?
	Starting with you.
	Go ahead.
	Can you come back to me?
	I don't know.
	Okay, we'll come back.
	Go ahead.
	I'm like, a man.
	Man?
	Yay.
	Oh, come on.
	No, no, no.
	Guys, let people answer.
	Don't try to force them.
	Go ahead.
	I give a man.
	Wait, hold on.
	Did somebody pressure you?
	No, I don't get pressured.
	I have my own thoughts.
	You were thinking about the...
	I was just going to say, a bear, this is going to sound crazy, but if I, obviously, if I'm in the woods and then a bear approaches me and I did not have time to research a bear.
	Wait.
	Grid one motorsports donated $200.
	You think you're good ones, Rachel?
	Your lies to yourself are failing you.
	The patriarchy stands ready to help.
	Submit and be saved from your irrational thoughts.
	Be better.
	Okay, thank you, Grid 1 Motorsports Man.
	Good to see you in the chat.
	Thank you, man.
	You were saying?
	Let's say that men can be pretty unpredictable.
	I'll give you that.
	But I choose men.
	I'd rather be in the woods with a man.
	A man.
	A man.
	Man.
	A man.
	I'm still on the fence about it just because I've had like instant.
	I'm going to say bear.
	Say bear.
	Rachel, what about you?
	Oh, a man.
	Okay.
	There's an article on my sub stack where I go over the last 45 years of data about men and whether or not the primary risk to women is men, and it's absolutely not.
	Like unequivocally, not even close.
	Your husband or the man in your life poses like far less risk to you than you've been led to believe by propaganda.
	What was the largest risk?
	The riskiest situation for a woman is to be in a cohabitation situation with a guy that she's sleeping with.
	Whereas far and away, the safest is to be living with your married husband and children, like by a factor of 12 times.
	And it was a major talking point of feminism in the 60s and 70s that men are these abusers, they're alcoholics, they're going to beat you, and so you have to be able to leave and you have to be able to cohabitate or you have to just be able to remain unattached that you can get away if he turns out to be a bad guy.
	But turns out that when you take the primary person out of your life who has an interest in providing for you and protecting you, you actually put yourself at much greater risk and you end up with the kind of guys who are going to pump you and dump you and be bad to you and treat you like garbage because they have no vested interest in long-term what's your best interest.
	So like the data is super overwhelming on it.
	Why do you pick Bear?
	I'm just curious.
	I've just been through like a lot of things with men.
	I was assaulted, essayed as a kid.
	And a couple of my first experiences in like sexually was also that in high school.
	So I just feel like I'd rather be mauled than go through that again.
	But that's based off my experience is not just based off of stipulation.
	But okay, keep in mind, this is a random man or a random bear.
	So the random man could be overwhelmingly likely to either leave you alone or be helpful in some sort of woods situation.
	Why are we both standing in the middle of the woods?
	I think you're overthinking the scenario a little bit, but in the middle of nowhere and the woods, you're probably a serial owner liver.
	No way.
	Zero.
	Then why are you in the middle of the south of the woods?
	Yeah, the man's going to be in the woods because he's hunting or hiking or doing bros.
	Well, so like here's the scenario though.
	So it's like a random man.
	So of the entire U.S. population, you're just plucking a random man out of it.
	So you can't even think of what are the motivations for him being there.
	It's like you just get, both of you just get plucked into the woods.
	But you are, you are coming across.
	So you will come across a random man or a random bear.
	You will get into contact.
	I'm just still.
	So if you were like roll the dice and you just randomly get put into a situation with a random man, what do you think is like the chance of any given man, a random man, Wanting to harm you in some way, wanting to assault you in some way.
	So, if Jeffrey Dahmer was in the woods versus the bear, what would you rather?
	No.
	The question is, what?
	Like, okay, what's the population of the U.S.?
	Over 300 million, 150?
	Yeah.
	So, it's like 150.
	Basically, statistically, you're basically saying that you statistically think that there's a more chance that the man is going to be wicked and evil towards you.
	I'm not even thinking statistically.
	I'm thinking personally.
	Like, I don't.
	Okay, but it's a rich, sure, but it's a random man, right?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I was also thinking, I could probably outrun a guy.
	I cannot outrun a bear, especially in their natural habitat.
	Yeah.
	I don't think I could outrun either.
	Okay, well, that being said, a bear, we know for sure, will, if we get too close, is gonna cause harm.
	Let me ask you, let me ask you a different question.
	Would you rather would you rather let's say you see a man at a campfire and then you see like a bear at a campsite who's like ruffling through some like food or something?
	Who would you rather go up and pat on the head three times?
	The man or the bear?
	Obviously, the man.
	Okay.
	Here, here's a different scenario: you're on the top floor of a burning building.
	I'm so glad I'm not dating Donato's.
	Hey, good to see you, Don.
	It's been a while.
	If my wife was hiking through the woods alone, she's five foot four plus one hundred and ten pounds.
	Say I wasn't present.
	I would rather her come across another random man rather than a bear 100% of the time.
	Irrational.
	Thank you.
	I'm so glad I'm not dating.
	Good to see you back in the chat, dude.
	Okay, here's the other scenario: you're on the top floor of a burning building for an appointment.
	You don't work there, so you don't know like the people in the building, whatever.
	Top floor of a burning building.
	The stairs burning.
	There's two elevators, top floor.
	There's a man in one of the elevators and a bear in the other elevator.
	And you're trying to get to the bottom.
	Which elevator do you go into?
	The one with the random man or the one with the bear?
	Well, I feel like the answer is obvious, the one with the man in it, because we're both trying to escape something.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	All right.
	Well, there it is.
	I feel like I need to ask that question, like show of hands, because I feel like some of y'all would have said bear.
	I thought about it.
	I think some of y'all would have said bear, but then she said man.
	Look at that.
	Good for you.
	I'm reasonable here.
	You're reasonable.
	Okay, there you go.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	All right.
	So we did man versus bear.
	Let's do.
	Wait, actually, grid won motorsports.
	He's still in the chat.
	He mentioned the patriarchy.
	He did.
	Do you guys want to?
	This is definitely dating related.
	Do you guys want to smash the patriarchy?
	Should we smash?
	That's not necessarily like what we're talking about here when we say the patriarchy.
	Well, so like, you know, feminism, one of the core tenets of feminism is the pay.
	There's the patriarch, the patriarchy theory.
	Patriarchy.
	Do you want to smash it?
	Should we get rid of the patriarchy?
	I feel like I just don't care enough.
	Okay, cool.
	What about you?
	I think there are certain aspects where it's just naturally going to happen.
	And I think there's some places where maybe there could be more leeway.
	That's it.
	That's really it.
	So is there a patriarchy?
	These days, I want to say just like smidge.
	It really depends on where you're looking.
	And you'd have to look.
	That's the thing.
	Yeah.
	Don't be shy.
	I see that you want to say something, and I want you to.
	Oh, I was making a joke in my head: like, yeah, I want to smash the patriarchy, but not smash the patriarchy, if you don't admit.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	No.
	I think that there could be some tweets, but I don't want to end it now.
	Okay.
	No, we should not get rid of the patriarchy.
	No, we should not get rid of it.
	I think I also don't really know what the patriarchy is that much.
	Do you feel like, so when feminists talk about the patriarchy, they're usually saying there's this historic conspiracy of men to control women, to keep them under their boot, to prevent them from having power or free will or like the choice to leave or do what they want, right?
	There's this effort among men in general to keep women like under their foot a little bit to keep them down.
	Do you feel like that's a thing?
	Maybe in the past, but not so much now.
	Okay.
	Yeah, same.
	I feel like we all can pretty much do what we want.
	Okay, question.
	What are we going to do about the men that think that they can lead, but they can't?
	Are we supposed to just let them like run shit?
	I mean, I don't see that.
	Well, can you give me an example of a man who thinks he can lead, but doesn't?
	So it could be like, if we're talking about the patriarchy in general, we could talk about a president.
	I don't want to pick one and say like what I think, but I'm not going to say every man is going to be great to lead and they like that's been in office.
	So do you guys assume then that when we're talking about like patriarchy that all men have dominion over all women or do we think that there's a hierarchy among men?
	I can respect that.
	Yeah.
	And I think one thing that feminism did unintentionally that's been really destructive for everybody is it destroyed that hierarchy among men.
	And now what you have it because you used to have the like more alpha type of men keeping down the like beta cuck type of like, you know, the gamma type of males who are just jealous and resentful and they like, they think that they're like, I should be having a girlfriend.
	She should like me, but she only likes that six foot tall football player and I'm gonna show her, you know, those type of guys.
	A girl.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They used to bully those guys into their proper place.
	I love that.
	We need to bring it back.
	Yeah, keep them kind of like where they need to keep them in line a little bit.
	But what feminism and egalitarianism did was kind of like take that away.
	So now you do have these feminine, by the way, feminist men, okay, all they're trying to do is what?
	Gay women.
	Yeah, they're just trying to fuck.
	Right?
	So they're not honest dudes.
	They're not going to be leaders.
	They're going to be shitheads.
	They're going to be impersonators.
	They're going to be the kind of dudes that you don't want.
	And it used to be that you had to compete for a wife, you know, back in the day.
	Like you had to prove to a man that you could support his daughter, that you could take care of her, that you were worthy of marrying her.
	Now we all just like go for the guy who like we all pick the wrong dudes, right?
	Very often we pick the wrong guy because some of them have adapted and figured out how to manipulate and sneak their way in.
	And like the guy who you friend zoned forever and then the minute you break up with your boyfriend, he's like right there with a bottle of wine and like, oh, honey, I'm sitting, you know, like he's trying to use what he can to get what he wants.
	So like they become, they act like females.
	They act sneaky and they use manipulation and subterfuge and gossip and things like that to get girls.
	And so we end up with these dudes.
	Right?
	Can I ask?
	So, you know, I know people who are like that and I know people who are feminists who aren't like that.
	They're.
	Yeah.
	I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $200.
	He's a perfect match.
	You go to his house.
	One of his rooms properly locked.
	In his house is filled with guns and ammo reloading equipment, including multiple AR-15 rifles.
	Whatever do you do?
	What if it's just for protection?
	Like, you know, like he feels like the need to protect his home, and he's one of those people that likes to collect things.
	I don't know.
	If it's properly locked, then that doesn't have anything to do with me, I guess.
	So you'd be okay with it?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I think that's what the question is asking.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'd be okay with it.
	I mean, I'd ask, like, is, I mean, are you using it for hunting purposes?
	You know, I know hunters.
	They're fine.
	But then also, I mean, if it's not, why do you need an AR-15?
	That's it.
	Grid one Motorsports donated $200.
	I am the patriarchy.
	We value women and protect them, especially from themselves.
	We die so you don't have to.
	Accepting Mrs. Wilson, you lot know so little of my work, yet speak in ignorance, dot be better.
	Okay, let's, should we continue with the gun question?
	Okay, what do you think?
	I'm not going to lie, I didn't really fully hear the question, but you date a guy, he's the perfect match, everything about him is perfect, but you go to his house and he's got a locked room that's filled with all kinds of guns, a bunch of AR-15s.
	Yeah, I don't mind that.
	Okay.
	Yeah, no problem.
	Probably ask him what his favorite one is.
	Sounds like my house, so happy dates.
	This is my dad's house.
	Not really.
	I mean, I would ask questions of what they're for, but like, I probably wouldn't have a problem with it.
	I would be okay as long as it's secured and all safe.
	I would be cool with it.
	I'd probably say, where's the AK-47s?
	Period.
	Yeah, that's a big question.
	Like, why only one type?
	AR-15 is the most popular rifle, I think, in America, but it has limits.
	We're fun, though.
	Would you guys change your answer if he just thought they were cool?
	Like, he really just likes nerves.
	I also think they're cool.
	I'm not everyone.
	It's funny I was in the Navy.
	Wait, did you show of hands?
	said no to the we also no one said no yeah everyone's fine with it yeah i guess it's like what would be the motivation if he like if he didn't want well i'm like completely fine with it but if the answer was not to protect himself what would it be Maybe things.
	Like, I don't know, or goes hunting.
	Because I think the main motivation that every guy, every man has a gun is to protect himselves and protect his home.
	And it's just, it's similar to why guys like cars.
	They like cool mechanical stuff that they can take apart and modify and do fun things with and makes it things go boom and it's fun.
	Do you have any questions?
	All right.
	Do I have any questions?
	Goodness.
	What do you guys think about all the plastic surgery that ladies are getting these days?
	What do you think about the fillers, the Botox, the lip injections, the eyelashes, like all of the enhancements?
	Because I'm 43, and when I was growing up, we didn't have all that.
	Like fake boobs were just a thing in the 90s, and that was like pretty much it.
	There was not this ubiquitous plastic surgery when I was growing up.
	I don't remember ever thinking about what my butt looked like till I was like in my 20s.
	Because it just, like, we would, in high school, we'd compliment each other on our outfits and be like, oh my god, your hair's cute.
	How'd you get it so tall?
	Right?
	Because the mall bangs in the 90s.
	But there wasn't this like hyper fixation on like, oh, I've got to have a huge ass and a tiny waist and huge lips and all this stuff.
	So I'm wondering, like, what, how do you guys feel about kind of growing up in an era with all that?
	Well, I was born in the year 2000, so I just feel like for me, I literally grew up in the social media age.
	And I always just had to see, you know, you just have to be perfect and everything like that.
	So I feel like for me, maybe thinking about it in a more, I don't know, a different way, I feel like we're all a little brainwashed, even if we don't like to admit it.
	But I would definitely get my lips done when I get the chance.
	I'm going to get a lot of things done.
	And maybe that means I have a little bit of mental health issues, but that's just, I don't know.
	I just feel like I...
	Stop it.
	Get some help.
	I think it has to be like reflection.
	Like, I don't know.
	I want to get it.
	Do you guys ever see the before pictures of the Kardashians and the after pictures of the Kardashians?
	Wait, so what do you think that's all?
	Yeah, what do you want to get?
	You said lips.
	What else?
	My boobs.
	Fake boobs.
	I want to get hip fillers.
	Hip fillers.
	What else?
	BBL?
	Lipo?
	I would definitely get Botox so I don't get lines on my forehead.
	So you are intending to get this?
	Oh, yeah, I'm definitely, I'm going to.
	You're going to.
	Have you gotten anything yet or nothing so far?
	No.
	Nothing so far.
	But I would.
	We can.
	Wait, actually, let's get everybody's response before we give our take on that.
	What about you?
	Personally, at this point in time, not for me.
	I want to do, if I want to enhance anything about me, I want to do that naturally.
	I'm going to work out a certain way, etc.
	At one point, I was thinking, I'm like, I don't like my nose.
	I was like, why?
	What's why?
	So, yeah.
	Good.
	Answer.
	I feel like it's to each is their own.
	I feel like if it doesn't come from a place of like mental health issues, it's fine.
	I have gotten a little bit of lip filler personally.
	That's it.
	That's it?
	Okay.
	I think it's unhealthy and unnatural.
	I think I, I don't know about boobs or anything like that kind of stuff, but I think I'm okay with facials and stuff like that.
	I feel like in the future, since I've been in the sun so much, I'll have to get some stuff taken off my face to, like, pre-cancer stuff.
	But that's not, like, yeah.
	Yeah, you said facials.
	Isn't that just like skin treatment?
	Yeah.
	Like skin treatment.
	Yeah, there's some pretty intense like treatments that you can do to yourself.
	Sure, but it's not something like inside you, right?
	Yeah.
	Preventative cancer.
	Does that constitute this cosmetic surgery, though?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I think it is unnecessary.
	And like social media has caused a lot of insecurities and made it really normalized.
	But I wouldn't judge anyone who does it.
	And yeah, two each are wrong.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	It's not for me.
	I think I prefer to be natural.
	And I think aging is like part of life and it's like bound to happen.
	And I also think social media could be harmful for especially young, like impressional girls to compare themselves to people when it's really not.
	Can I ask Rachel one thing that I'm a little nervous about with like child rearing is like what's going to happen afterwards and you've had five and I think that's a thing that women think about like I'll get my mommy makeover.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	Like if a mom wants to feel confident again after her body just got wrecked?
	I think well it kind of depends.
	Like I know some women who've had a bunch of kids and they look fantastic and I'm like dang.
	If you have like I had five and they were all over eight pounds and they went straight out because I have like narrow hips so they just went straight out in front.
	So like if there's excess skin and it's bothersome and you want to get that removed I don't think there's any problem with that.
	I would consider it.
	I haven't done that, but I think it's okay, and I'm not 100% against plastic surgery, but I think it's gone like way too far with women just looking like, like, people don't, like, you have an adorable nose.
	Why would you ever think you're going to be?
	Oh, oh, God.
	She's a nose.
	There's nothing, nothing wrong with her nose at all.
	And I see girls who already have like great features, but they think they have to look like how all the celebrities look the same.
	Like, they have to have that tiny nose and these huge lips.
	And it's like, I am a fan of real faces.
	I used to draw portraits when I was growing up all the time.
	I like worked as an artist when I was younger.
	And I like people's actual faces.
	I like the things that make their face unique and make them look different.
	So I'm just not, I don't like everybody trying to look like blow-up doll clones.
	I think that's gross.
	I'll give my take on this.
	I am a natural body supremacist.
	I am very much against both in a partner and, you know, if I ever gain political power, I will actually outlaw plastic surgery.
	I'll outlaw cosmetic procedures, lip fillers, straight to jail.
	Fake titties, straight to jail.
	BBL, that's an ex actually you can get executed in my goodness.
	I will execute you in my government if you get a BBL.
	Yeah, this is good.
	This is hardcore, okay?
	I want to ask a question.
	And you can't even be grandfathered in.
	You have to get that shit out.
	You got to remove that shit.
	You got to remove the shit.
	Or, sorry, execution.
	And then also labia plasty execution.
	If you get one of those.
	I can't imagine that either.
	That sounds crazy.
	Hashtag big labia matter.
	Okay.
	That's my movement.
	Wait, Brian, I have a question about this big labia thing.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Let's hear it.
	So I worked in a gynecologist's office for a long time, and there were women that would come in with like huge labias.
	Huge.
	Huge.
	Sign me up.
	What's up?
	No, it was just like they couldn't exercise because of like chafing and issues like that.
	Are you okay with labia plasties when they're like medically or are you like no labia plasty?
	Period.
	I don't know if I believe the it's interfering.
	I don't believe in it.
	There was a lady that couldn't run because it was so painful and bad.
	Yeah.
	So like I'm not saying it was common.
	I'm just saying I saw it.
	And so like I'm just curious.
	She couldn't run?
	It was so painful, like the chafing and the issues.
	There's ways.
	There's workarounds.
	There's duct tape, is what you're saying.
	I don't know, maybe like stuff it.
	I don't know.
	There's no word to roll it up.
	I am.
	Look, maybe I've heard of these incredibly dubious and rare scenarios where there can be pain.
	Who knows if it's just pretext for justification for them getting a cut pure, what is typically purely a cosmetic procedure.
	But if there is $200, long time watcher first time contributor.
	Love the show, Brian.
	How did the trip to the Eastern Orthodox Temple with Rage?
	We weren't able to.
	Oh, Nick on the microphone.
	Maybe, yeah, eventually, just it's we'll get it done eventually.
	Thank you, Cloud, for the street.
	Sorry, I got.
	I went to a lovely church here this morning, though.
	Highly recommended.
	Was it Saint Anathias?
	Yep, St. Athanasius.
	Athanas.
	And then, isn't there like a Greek Orthodox one?
	Is that what you guys are?
	Greek?
	We're Antiochian, and the one that I went, St. Athanasius, is Antiochian, so it's nice because.
	But they're all under the banner of Eastern Orthodox.
	Yeah, they're all in communion with each other.
	So it would be the same liturgy, the same theology everywhere.
	I know the Greek one has like it's a really nice one up in the mountains or something.
	They tend to have beautiful like fancy churches.
	Yeah.
	Going back though to the plastic surgery stuff.
	So wait, your point was like what if there's it's medically indicated, they have pain.
	Well, I don't think that there's a lot of scenarios where any plastic surgery is medically indicated.
	Right.
	But I'm saying I saw like one or two women where it was like you saw, like you saw that shit.
	And I was like, damn.
	You were in the shit.
	I saw it and I was like, yeah.
	I could see why this would be so like interfere in so many aspects of your life.
	I don't know.
	Look, I'm not a woman, so I don't know, you know, how that is.
	But like, how many women, for example, or just people in general will say, like, oh, yeah, I got a nose.
	I got a rhinoplasty because I have breathing problems.
	Oh, yeah.
	And they'll like, people do genuinely have, like, I have a deviated septum.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I broke my nose back in high school.
	I was on the wrestling team.
	Broke my nose, oh, shit, it was almost 20 years ago or some shit.
	Right.
	Never bothered to fix it.
	But people do genuinely have these things where plastic surgery can actually address like a medically indicated problem.
	But there are people who will just lie and be like, well, I've got this blah, blah, blah.
	Totally.
	Even to a doctor, they won't even always be honest to the doctor and say, well, I just have issues with it cosmetically.
	They'll say, oh, my breathing's kind of for in the case of nose jobs, for example.
	In this case, they might just want to, you know, they don't want to come off even to the doctor as like, well, I want to do it for cosmetic reasons.
	They'll say, well, you know, there's also I wonder if there's like something with insurance if you say.
	Yeah.
	If you say, well, I experience pain while running versus I just don't like how it looks, if it has some play there with insurance.
	So who knows what the truth is?
	But moving off of labia plasty, I'm a natural body supremacist.
	So I'll give you my rundown quickly on this.
	So I would prefer a girl who has small upper lip over lip filler.
	I prefer a girl with small, flat boobs over some fake titties.
	Prefer a girl with flat, flat bum over BBL.
	Prefer a girl with a little belly fat over lipo belly.
	And yeah, that's pretty much it.
	So I don't know.
	And I actually did a, I did a couple polls recently on my Twitter asking other men this.
	Like, would you prefer a girl who has like a, what I did, I did one for BBL.
	Yeah, I saw those.
	BBL, fake breasts, and I think lip filler.
	The lip filler one was phrased a bit differently.
	But the men overwhelmingly, well, at least the people who answered, overwhelmingly said that they prefer natural, even if natural means you have a small bum, small boobs, small upper lip.
	They always prefer it over the fake thing.
	So do you feel the same way about breasts?
	If it was like, you had a woman who had just huge breasts, major back pain.
	Do you feel the same way about a reduction or are you like?
	Yeah, that'd be fine.
	They could get a reduction?
	Okay.
	Yeah, I mean, I don't really, I'm not even a boob guy, so I honestly wouldn't care.
	If she had some giant knockers, I wouldn't be like, oh, fuck.
	She's got a, oh, no, she's losing it.
	Actually, there's like a, I feel like there's a curb your enthusiasm episode about this where this guy was dating a woman, big boobs, and then she got a breast reduction, and then they, she lost, or he lost interest.
	Yeah, I've heard that.
	Like, women with big, you know, they get back pain.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	So that just ties them back to medical reasons for you, really.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	Yeah.
	And I'm not a boob guy, so I wouldn't even, I don't care.
	All right, right.
	I wouldn't care.
	Yeah, no.
	I'm not even really a buc guy.
	I'm a labia guy.
	It's weird.
	You're delirious.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	Can I add something?
	Did you guys know that there are like there's some women women that are lying to their doctors like saying that they have like body dysmorphia or whatever so that they can get like a BBL from insurance?
	Yeah.
	Oh shit.
	Interesting.
	It was just a random fact.
	I don't have an opinion on it.
	It's really funny.
	It's really funny.
	Wait, actually I do want to see here if we can potentially change your view on this because you said that you want to get all these procedures, right?
	You said you wanted lips, titties, Botox.
	What was the other thing?
	Lipo, BBL.
	Did you say BBL?
	BBL?
	Yeah, hip fillers.
	Hip fillers.
	Oh, don't do that.
	That walking around.
	These girls are walking around looking like a wisdom tooth.
	They're like this, and then just, it's like, well, I'd go to a good doctor.
	Listen.
	What's it going to take to change your mind on this shit?
	If it was like something that I could die on the table.
	Wait, Madison, you got a story on this shit.
	My aunt died from getting a BDL.
	It was more so.
	My aunt got.
	You got this, Madison.
	My aunt died from getting a BBL.
	She just didn't wake up from the anesthesia.
	Oh, my God.
	They can hear me.
	Well, they can hear louder.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Her aunt died.
	Her aunt, who, wait, what was the story here?
	So she was already married, correct?
	And had kids?
	Two kids.
	She had two kids.
	One toddler and one like newborn that was only about a month old.
	She just gave birth and she was trying to get a BBL.
	And she died because of the BBL.
	Or, well, the anesthesia, I'm assuming, during the procedure.
	They're dangerous.
	Kanye West's mom died.
	I think it was lipo.
	She was.
	I have a question.
	Do you know how the filler works in your hips?
	How does that work?
	Because with breasts, it's usually like fen a sac, right?
	So it's like contained.
	Um, but like, I have a crazy story about a guy who actually got like filler injections into his penis and it was, yeah, like he went abroad because he wanted his penis like bigger and he just kept having all these injections done.
	And it was like this big and because it's not encapsulated, it was just like lumpy and there was no way to reverse it.
	Like we're talking like this this big.
	Huh?
	It's crazy.
	So and like just look like a lumpy tuna can or something.
	Yeah.
	Excuse me.
	Couldn't even use it.
	Couldn't have an erection.
	Like would snap.
	So like I just think that yeah, you should really reconsider.
	I think that you're beautiful just the way that you are.
	Yeah.
	I was just going to say the same thing.
	I don't think she needs anything, but.
	Don't do that shit.
	Who are you?
	Is there a celebrity or somebody that you're that you would like to emulate or like look like?
	No, I still want to look like me.
	I just want to look like me with enhancements.
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	You do not hear anything.
	Thank you.
	Don't do that shit.
	Well then what's driving you to because it's I you look beautiful like everyone's saying and I think you know that you are an attractive person.
	Like what's driving you to want to enhance what's already really like good?
	Perfection.
	I want to be like waiting for you.
	Let me give you the guy's perspective.
	Nick can you pull up the chat so she can see the chat on this shit?
	This is where the chat's going to get introduced here for a bit.
	So remind me what your name is.
	Anaya.
	Anaya, what if I told you because you're saying you're chasing perfection by getting all these plastic surgery things.
	What if I told you that there are some honestly, I think, weird men who are like into women with plastic surgery, but and I typically don't tend to think that those men are good men typically.
	I don't know.
	I don't find that an aesthetic.
	But when you say you're chasing perfection, my actual position on this is, is that overwhelmingly, women who get all these procedures, I'm not even saying this to gas you up or anything.
	I do genuinely think they look worse after the procedure.
	So even if you had small boobs and you get some fake titties, I don't think it looks better.
	Now, boobs is a little bit different, but like look at the fake lips.
	I don't think lip filler ever looks better than how your lips were.
	And you already got.
	You got nice lips.
	What are you doing?
	What's she doing?
	Look, she had a good lips.
	It would be like a perfect pow.
	What's your definition of perfect?
	Nobody is perfect.
	You got good lips too?
	What the fuck?
	Yeah, it's just like perfect for like lips at the table.
	Did you know that I had lip filler?
	Well, it's worn off, right?
	Or how recently?
	Yeah, it was probably like...
	Do you have any pictures of you before the lip filler?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Pull that shit up.
	I got my phone.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm just saying.
	Oh, well.
	You probably had nice lips.
	No, I do.
	Before.
	Like, I just did the top just to facial balance.
	Anything that I would do would be to balance.
	You don't need that shit.
	I got you.
	Thank you.
	Like, I want to do like fat transfer, not implants.
	Still, still bad.
	Don't do it.
	I just want to move it.
	Nope.
	Don't do it.
	It's unnatural.
	Love the rolls.
	Love the rolls.
	Don't do it.
	I also want to say, I did get my top teeth done as well.
	I forgot to say that.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I've had my, I had my teeth done.
	I think that's a little bit, because like mine, I had braces for five and a half years and they had permanent staining.
	There was nothing I could do about it.
	So aside from the fact that they were slightly crooked, they just looked dirty, which bothered me because I'm like a super clean, hygienic person.
	And I was like, I don't like that it looks like I don't brush my teeth because I'm constantly brushing and flossing.
	I just wanted to close my gap.
	Yeah.
	Not a gap.
	I just wanted to close it.
	Some guys like the gap.
	You know what's crazy?
	Like, remove your teeth and put new teeth in.
	Why not?
	What's crazy?
	No.
	Tell us what's crazy.
	I actually did miss my gap after this.
	I was like, oh.
	But then I'm like, no, not really.
	I still feel more confident with how my teeth are.
	Yeah, you're smiling.
	Wait, so question for the chat.
	Chat, do you guys prefer, do you guys prefer plastic surgery or no plastic surgery?
	I've never seen a butt look better after BBL.
	Even if the girl had a small butt.
	You can't.
	I've never seen it.
	That's true.
	You can build a really nice butt.
	And then your butt and your legs go together.
	The thing about that bothers me.
	It looks like you got a big old lumpy diaper half the time.
	It doesn't matter.
	You see girls with like skinny legs non-muscle and then they got this big like weird looking It doesn't look right.
	No, it gives you what it is like yes uncanny value where you just know something's off and I think for a lot of men it like sets off something in the back of their head where they're like don't mate with that something's wrong something's wrong well I I do think that plastic surgery can absolutely be proxy for mental illness.
	Because if you're so dissatisfied with your physical appearance that you're going to, one, spend thousands of dollars, but also, in terms of the risk assessment, go under anesthesia.
	And anytime you go under anesthesia, there is a risk of shit, you could get permanent brain damage, they give you too much, you can even die.
	Just like with Madison's aunt or whatever.
	She wanted a BBL, I don't know, she wanted a BBL, already married and had kids, you already won.
	Anyways, she died.
	She died.
	I mean, it can have an effect like an addiction.
	Some people legit do.
	Like, you start getting tattoos and then you just can't.
	But it's in addition to being proxy for mental illness, it's also just a proxy for vanity.
	Like, that's me personally, I prefer much more modest women.
	So, yeah.
	And also a little far over reach, but like, okay, you get haircuts, right?
	That's a cosmetic thing that you like.
	Well, I would differentiate here between like grooming.
	So I'd put like haircuts, or like, for example, when I say natural body supremacist, oh, well, you'd want a woman with armpit hair and like leg hair.
	No, grooming, I think, doesn't like you can groom, you know.
	I'm fine with grooming's cool.
	I'm fine with grooming.
	How do you feel about men that like spray paint their hairline?
	I hate this.
	What?
	Yeah, I can't say that because I do my thing.
	So, you know?
	Well, it does kind of get into the whole like, well, is it deceptive to have like plastic surgery, but then going beyond that, like makeup usage, is that deceptive in the same way that it's deceptive for a man to wear like a toupee or wear a cap all the time or hatfishing.
	Okay.
	So I actually wanted to, you said something earlier I want to jump back to.
	You said, and I was up over there, but I heard something like you said that you can be aggressive or raise your voice or something.
	Yeah, I have a pretty hot temper.
	Do you?
	Well, because you seem like pretty mellow.
	And you have like kind of, you're a bit soft-spoken.
	You have like kind of a melodic, soothing voice.
	Thank you.
	It's something that I've worked on pretty much when I started dating my husband because I watched my parents have a pretty argumentative relationship.
	And I knew that I didn't want to be like that with my husband.
	And so when I realized that I wanted to be with my husband, that I needed to change the way I react to things.
	And it's a slow process.
	I think I'm a lot better at it, but I definitely like.
	So would you used to yell?
	Yeah, but yeah.
	I can't, for some reason, I can't imagine you yelling.
	Come surf with me.
	I don't know why.
	Come on, come surf with you.
	Like people drop in.
	Fuck you.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I mean, I'm not, yeah.
	I think I've, also, my husband is really good at pushing my buttons too.
	He's very good at it.
	And he knows he knows he knows exactly what to say to like.
	Like what?
	What pushes your buttons?
	So if we're having a disagreement, I'm always trying to solve the conflict.
	And sometimes he likes to do little jabby things.
	And I'm like, why are we trying to hurt feelings?
	I'd rather.
	What's a jab?
	Is he like, I can hang 10 better than you?
	Well, he can.
	Damn, shots fired.
	I know.
	I don't know.
	It's like instead of just like I'll say something and he's like, well, you did that, blah, And I'll say, okay, well, that's not really helping what we're trying to solve here.
	Yeah.
	How often do you guys argue?
	He would probably say a lot, but I don't say that much.
	Wait, currently, you guys are like arguing?
	Not currently, but in general, currently.
	Well, we have discussions.
	I like to call them discussions.
	How frequently?
	Maybe like once a month?
	Once a month?
	Yeah.
	Because I would also say once a month.
	And Andrew always knows.
	He's like, I know what's happening here.
	And I'm like, yeah.
	Do you guys think that arguing and like having disagreements is good in a relationship though?
	I think it's really good.
	What do you think, Rachel?
	No, I don't think it's good.
	So you think that you should be happy like 24-7 all the time?
	Well, I think that we're all human beings and we're going to have disagreements.
	But I think that they're way more frequent than they need to be.
	Like when Andrew and I first started dating, my favorite story to tell, because I grew up with parents who've been divorced a bunch on both sides.
	And they were yellers.
	They were people that threw things, slammed doors.
	Like my life growing up was with these chaotic, crazy people.
	And I thought I was like the stable one.
	So I was doing fine, right?
	I was like, I'm not like them, so I'm good.
	But when we first started dating, he came over to my house for something, and he made like a little funny comment, and I threw a remote control at him.
	And he was like, if you're going to do that, I'm going to leave right now and I'm not going to ever come back.
	So you can think about if you want to be like that or not.
	And at first I was like, well, who does he think he is?
	And then I thought about it for a minute because he did.
	He left.
	I mean, he didn't just tell me.
	He like proved it.
	He was like, I'm going to leave now.
	Bye.
	And I was like, what a jerk.
	And then I thought about it and I was like, wait a minute.
	Do I want to be the girl who throws stuff?
	Right.
	Because he just made like, it wasn't even something really bad.
	He said, it was like a harmless little, like, poking fun at me kind of thing, playing around with me.
	And I was like, oh, shit.
	Am I doing that?
	Like how my mom did or like how my dad would?
	Or am I being like that?
	It really just made me think about it.
	And so like over time, because Andrew's so, like, my favorite thing about him is he's so emotionally stable.
	He's very like in control of his feelings, in control of his emotions.
	He doesn't lose it because he could be a really dangerous guy if he let himself lose control and he knows that.
	So he's gotten very good over the years of his life at keeping stuff under wraps.
	And so if I'm acting crazy, he'll just kind of be like, I'm not going to talk to you if you're acting crazy.
	When you chill, we can talk, right?
	So like over a couple years of being with him, that stuff really, I just unlearned it.
	But like you said, it takes time.
	It's not like instant.
	That's why I always say like, you're not born a good wife.
	You kind of have to like learn how to be a good wife.
	And if you have a guy that's strong like that, where like I never had to be afraid of him or anything like that, because he would never lose control.
	And it would just like hit the contrast of him being so calm and like not crazy and emotional, which I had only ever dated crazy, emotional people before that, where I was the sane person.
	So the contrast of suddenly him being so steady, it made me see where I was crazy.
	And then I was like, oh, shit, I better handle that.
	I agree with that.
	I do think that there are situations, though, where people, instead of discussing, like, their differences, they just don't.
	And it turns into like not talking about anything.
	And then it could turn into like, you're literally just cohabitating and there's no point in you having a relationship.
	And I think that that's wrong too.
	Yeah.
	We have a chat here.
	It came in.
	I'm not able to pull it back up.
	It's from Nickelodeon.
	It came in a while ago.
	Nickelodeon, sorry we're finally getting to it.
	It fell off, so I missed it.
	But he says, have the new girls never seen the show before?
	Inform them that it's traditional to bow to the host.
	Brain, he said brain, not Brian.
	New girls, what would your father say about being so easily lured into a strange man's studio?
	And this came in, this came in just as the girls.
	So do you guys want to?
	He was asking if you guys want to bow.
	Not particularly.
	I don't know.
	You don't have to.
	I mean, if you want, I can't.
	Like, that's just like the traditional.
	Like, all these other girls here bowed before.
	Oh.
	They bowed like when they came out.
	Like, she did the deepest bow actually.
	She did a full-on respect deep bow.
	You weren't supposed to tell them that.
	It's true.
	It's true.
	Someone bowed to me.
	Yeah.
	Someone, wait, what?
	We asked her to come on the show, and she like politely was like no and bowed to Nick.
	Like full-on bow.
	Was it white girl?
	She's Asian.
	Oh.
	Oh, there you go.
	Well, wait, but like.
	She like bowed to him.
	She's like, no, no.
	Sorry.
	But was she like American Asian or oh, well, that makes sense then.
	Right?
	Yeah, it's still cool.
	It's more cultural.
	Still cool though.
	Still cool.
	Did you fall in love, Nick?
	Did you get her contact info or what's up?
	Okay, wow.
	Just unprompted bow.
	Okay, nice.
	Actually, speaking of, speaking of, maybe we do the bow video segment.
	So one of my requirements for a girl I would date, a girlfriend, did you have something on the bow?
	Did we talk about the bow?
	I'd love to talk about the bow.
	Okay, we'll talk about it.
	We'll play the video.
	First, a girl, she's got a bow.
	I need a girl to bow, you know, at least once a day.
	Boom.
	Huge bow.
	Did you see the bow?
	Very well.
	That was a perfect technique.
	I get the A-minus.
	A minus.
	A minus.
	You don't want her to get too.
	Yeah, they can't get too confident, you know.
	You know, look very attentive.
	I get home from a long day at the podcast studio.
	She's got my beer ready, my food ready, my noodles good to go.
	She's going to stir the noodles because she fucked up stirring them.
	There you go.
	Do it again.
	Do it again.
	Good.
	Okay, sweet.
	Boom.
	Attentive.
	Hands in lap.
	One more time, Nick.
	Let's see the bow.
	Boom.
	Huge bow.
	Look at that.
	Technique, grace, respect.
	Still an A-minus.
	A minus.
	So going around the table, would you bow to a man?
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I mean, what's the context?
	Just they come home.
	It was just like, I need a bow.
	Depends on the context.
	Okay.
	If I can get a push gift when I have his kids, yes.
	What's a push give?
	I get a Mercedes AMG when I have your child.
	Then yeah, I'll bow.
	So after children in marriage, and he has to buy you a take care of me in all forms of fashion.
	And you'll consider doing a bow.
	Yeah.
	What if it's on like the second date?
	Hell no.
	Okay.
	If it is important to my husband that I bow to him, sure.
	But I do think that it's like a cultural thing, and I don't understand why it'd be necessary.
	But like.
	Yeah, this is cultural appropriation.
	No, it's not.
	I just don't like, like, you literally made the comment.
	Like, is she Asian?
	Oh, that makes sense.
	Like, you said that.
	So, like.
	I didn't say that.
	So I just feel that if my husband was like, I want you to bow to me, I'd be like, okay.
	Sure.
	But I mean, okay, whatever.
	So bowing is a part of my culture, and I bow to all sorts of people.
	What's your culture?
	I'm half Taiwanese.
	I'm half what?
	American, white.
	Word?
	Okay.
	So I see it as we are two people.
	I respect you as a person, and usually it's to my elders.
	But definitely I'd bow to my husband.
	I don't see it as a diss.
	Like, I think it's like a, I respect you, you respect me kind of a thing.
	Where were you born in Taiwan?
	No, my mom was.
	Okay.
	Do you speak as a marriage?
	I speak Mandarin.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Would you hit the bow?
	I mean, it depends on the man.
	Like, if it's a stranger, then I wouldn't.
	It's first date, second date.
	Like, he asked for it.
	He's like, can I see a bow?
	Not if he just wants to see it, but if it's like someone I actually know and like Christian.
	Show the bow.
	Not like just like someone I don't know that well, but like, I mean, if I know them and I respect them and they really want me to bow, then I guess.
	But like, I don't really think it means that much.
	No, he just liked it.
	He thought it was endearing or cute or something.
	Okay, yeah, sure.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Do you hit the bow for your boyfriend?
	Like if he comes home, like.
	Is he long distance, your boyfriend?
	Yeah, he lives two hours away.
	Or not.
	It's not that far, but.
	Medium.
	Yeah, medium distance.
	Wait, really quick.
	So you've been dating him for two years, correct?
	Yes, we got together in high school.
	Okay.
	And so he's, you met initially in person, close, but then different colleges.
	Okay.
	Two hours away, okay.
	How often do you see him?
	Like every weekend or?
	Maybe.
	Like once a week.
	Like twice a month, maybe?
	Twice a month.
	Okay.
	You should just like next time you see him unprompted hit the bow.
	I don't know.
	I'm not familiar with that, but like if you like if he is like if we're married and he's my husband and he's like maybe coming home from work, maybe I wouldn't bow, but like greet him like with a kiss or something.
	So like the bare minimum?
	So what do you do when you greet like you greet him now?
	You slap him across the face?
	No, I hug him.
	Like when he picks me up from the train then I hope you.
	I was just like you got to be married to greet him with a kiss.
	How are you greeting him now?
	Okay.
	So you wouldn't do the bow now?
	If he asked for it?
	Like for fun?
	Or like?
	No, he was serious.
	He was serious about it.
	Like for respect?
	Yeah, he just thought it was cute.
	He's like, every time I see you, I want to bow.
	If he, um, I don't know.
	Like.
	What would your objection to it be?
	Like, like bow to like worship him?
	No, just respect.
	As a high, like.
	As a respect.
	Like a.
	Not just like a slight head tilt.
	It's got to be full-on respect bow.
	You see that?
	Wait.
	She's not fully like 90.
	She's not fully.
	She's full at the hips.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah.
	Maybe.
	I'm just not familiar with it, so I don't know.
	Do you think your boyfriend's watching right now?
	I told him about it, but I don't know.
	He's with his family right now.
	What's his name?
	Terrell.
	Wait, what is it?
	Terrell.
	Terrell?
	Terrell.
	Demand bows from here on out.
	See how it goes.
	I'm just saying.
	Terrell?
	Yeah, I don't think he would demand it from me, though.
	Is he a white guy?
	No, he is Chamorro and Filipino.
	Wait, he's what?
	Tomorrow, from Guam.
	It's their...
	Oh.
	Word?
	Word?
	Well, he sounds like a...
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	Try it out, Terrell.
	Try it out.
	Yeah, what do you guys think?
	So I want a girl who's willing, like, immediately, first date, second date.
	She's got to start hitting boughs.
	Can I just say?
	What's up?
	I can understand bowing like ancestor-wise and out of respect, but it just feels too close to like treating your man like he's God.
	And I don't like that.
	Sound me up.
	Maybe it's because you're not dating guys who see them as you want to respect them as well.
	Like I said before, I have a stipulation with it.
	If I have that respect, yes.
	On the second date, no.
	No, no, no.
	Got it.
	First date.
	Boom.
	Absolutely.
	Hit me with a bow.
	He'll put it.
	I'm going to put that respect.
	Do it just as an experiment, right?
	You're an attractive girl.
	I'm sure you get asked out on first dates all the time.
	Try it as an experiment.
	Just upon walking up, you know, you've set up the date.
	Maybe you've met him on a dating app.
	I don't know the circumstances.
	You're walking up to each other.
	Maybe he's probably arrived early because you're running 15 minutes late.
	But just as you're walking up, just be like, do like kind of a cute little, do a bow.
	I think that could be the one for you.
	Her face does not look like she's going to do the bow.
	Just try it.
	What Rachel would you bow?
	Yeah, Andrew.
	I would do backflips.
	I would do whatever Andrew wants.
	Rachel.
	Andrew, I want to see.
	Absolutely.
	Whatever he wants.
	Go ahead.
	Wait, where are you going?
	I want to see the video, the proof, the Andrew, me to bowing to Andrew.
	He hasn't requested a bow, but he has to do that.
	Andrew gets what Andrew wants.
	Shout out to the Crucible crew watching, by the way, but they know they are constantly calling me a simp and saying I'm the biggest simp for him.
	Yeah, I think women should be simps.
	It's rightful.
	Women should be simps for men.
	I also want to know, like, the girls who wouldn't bow, what are you losing in bowing to your man?
	Like, what's the, why don't you want to do it?
	Well, here's the thing.
	I'm not against bowing.
	I mean, respect earns respect.
	I think, okay, I'll bow.
	You bow to me if I do something respectful too, though.
	Like, you know, same respect equal respect.
	I got to reciprocate the bow?
	That's so good.
	I got to reciprocate the bow.
	What are you talking about?
	You want me to reciprocate the bow?
	Whoa, whoa, what is it?
	That's crazy.
	I think it just goes back to the feminism thing.
	That's crazy.
	I mean, if we're doing something respectful, I mean, would you like a bow if you did something?
	I mean, he respects you, right?
	No, if Andrew bowed to me, it would be out of order.
	You'd be worried.
	Yeah.
	She'd be frankly.
	I don't know if this line of questioning makes sense, but if you're on a first date and you expect the guy to pay for the first date, but he finds out that he doesn't respect you and he doesn't want to pay, is that okay if he just doesn't pay for the first date then?
	I mean, like, I was someone who likes to split, you know.
	I mean, it really depends.
	If he's splitting, just, I mean, if he's refusing to pay just to be like, no, why would I do that?
	I would be like, well, I mean, you pay for your meal, I pay for my meal.
	Like, right?
	But back to, like, you want the reciprocated respect, right?
	If he didn't reciprocate that, and he's like, well, I don't really want to pay for your dinner.
	That's fine.
	I don't really expect anyone to pay for my dinner.
	No, I never expect that.
	Well, hypothetically, if you did, if you were a woman who did expect that, and they said, well, if you want me to pay for the dinner, I want to respect you.
	And you're, I don't know.
	Also, like, you're saying if they are going to pay for the dinner and they then wanted a bow because they did that thing.
	Is that what you're suggesting?
	No, I was just saying You were saying the only way I would bow to you is if I respect you.
	And I was kind of flip trying to flip, but I don't know if it's a good comparison if you're expecting him to pay for the first date and then he doesn't respect you enough to do that.
	I don't know.
	Well, okay, well, if he's if someone's just being disrespectful, of course I'm not going to bow.
	I mean, here's the thing.
	I'm always going to go into any situation, even with a stranger, with respect because I don't know you.
	I don't want to assume anyone with you.
	Wow.
	Holy shit.
	I sneeze very violently.
	Yeah.
	Side.
	I literally.
	I got a loud sneeze.
	What can I say?
	Yeah, but okay, yeah.
	So any situation, any person, I'm going to go into this situation assuming respect.
	I mean, if I bump into a stranger, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm sorry.
	That's kind of a bow in its way.
	It's right?
	For shizzle.
	Yeah.
	So, if that makes sense.
	So who wasn't willing to bow?
	Was it you?
	No bow.
	Wait, I got a question.
	So for question for you two, really quick.
	Should men be willing to sacrifice their life for their girlfriend?
	Yeah.
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like take a bullet.
	Should a man take a bullet for his girl?
	Protector, right?
	Men are supposed to be protectors.
	Yeah.
	If it's a serious, serious relationship.
	How long?
	How long do you think you should?
	How long should you be dating before a guy?
	I'm going to say if you committed to that person, I wouldn't put a timeline on it.
	Three months?
	Let's say he committed to you.
	Three months in.
	Three months in girlfriend, should he be willing to take a bullet for you?
	Protect you?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	Same thing.
	What do you think on this one?
	I think, again, it depends on the context.
	I mean, however two people define something in a relationship, you know, if.
	Would you take, would you, in that scenario, would you take the bullet for your three-month boyfriend?
	Or do you think that's more so the man's job to protect?
	I don't know about that one.
	I wouldn't do it for my boyfriend.
	So that sounds like a no.
	You wouldn't what?
	Not for my three-month boyfriend, but if it was a bad thing.
	But would you want your three-month boyfriend to do it for you?
	I wouldn't even say I'd necessarily like want them to, but I would just hope that you love me enough to want to protect me.
	Why are we in the situation?
	Hey, it could happen.
	Yeah.
	Did he have me in that room?
	Did he have me in that room where that was happening?
	What do you mean?
	Like, if they, yeah, like because of his choices and whatnot.
	You're at an after party for an up-and-coming rap artist who happens to be gang-affiliated.
	Who brought me there?
	I don't know.
	It was for one of your music things or whatever.
	You're a musician, right?
	Yeah, your fault.
	Oh, okay.
	You're like, big, take me to this thing.
	You know, this guy's a great rapper.
	Whatever it is.
	I don't know.
	I listen to Pearl Jam.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	So.
	You want him to turn a bullet for you then?
	Well, you're saying that it's my fault for us being in the room, so no.
	Well, I don't know if there's fault.
	Like, you could go anywhere.
	But if you're just at a restaurant.
	Yeah, you're at a restaurant and someone goes crazy.
	Yeah.
	You want the man to jump in front of?
	Take the bullet.
	That's what men do.
	Yes.
	Not if he does it like that.
	Not if he's like, ah.
	Yeah, exactly.
	What about you?
	You think the guy should take the bullet?
	Yeah.
	I mean, you can't control people and how they act.
	What about you?
	Yes.
	What about you?
	No.
	Man shouldn't have to take the bullet.
	What about?
	What do you think?
	Your boyfriend, let's talk about your boyfriend.
	Would you, Terrell, do you want Terrell to protect you and take the bullet?
	Oh, yes.
	Yes.
	Now, would a guy be less attractive if he was unwilling to do that?
	Let's say you're just meeting this guy and you know he's a pansy.
	He's a pansy.
	He would never take a bullet for his girlfriend.
	Is he less attractive and less date worthy, starting with you?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	I'm sorry, can you repeat?
	Is a guy who's unwilling to do it less attractive, less date worthy?
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	You don't care, okay?
	He's absolutely less attractive and not date worthy.
	Okay, so here we go.
	So let me start by saying, if you guys are familiar with the game of chess, in chess, you lose if you sacrifice the king to save the queen.
	Checkmate.
	Now, a couple things here.
	A couple things here.
	You don't want to do a bow.
	You don't want to do a bow, but you both want a man to lay down his life and die for you.
	What?
	Let's pause it.
	Let's take a step back here.
	Nope.
	Step back.
	Okay, let's take a step back and let's see a bow right now.
	A bow first.
	You want a man to die for you?
	I don't want him to die for you.
	You want a man to die for you, but you're not going to do a bow.
	You said my boyfriend.
	Did I want my boyfriend to take my bullet for me?
	But you said, hold on.
	Your terms for the bow were married and an $80,000 luxury car.
	I said I pushed it.
	If I can push out your child, you can't.
	And children.
	And children.
	I got to push the child out.
	What are you talking about?
	And?
	And that's your job.
	And it's half your, it's your child's.
	Yes, it is, but I have to go through the pain of it, so I should be gifted.
	You don't have to.
	I mean, you probably shouldn't.
	What if you don't have children with this guy?
	Because you said three months in.
	You want that.
	You want bullet.
	I think bowing in a different form.
	Yes, he can have it.
	Different form.
	What do you mean?
	Like after you perform.
	Huh?
	What do you mean, different form?
	Listen.
	I can reward a man one way.
	I don't have to bow.
	That's how I feel about it.
	You talking about fellatio?
	Yeah, why not?
	Huh?
	Yeah, why not?
	Cloud flying donated to.
	That's a bow.
	That's damn near about.
	Okay, we'll get back to that.
	That's a question for the panel.
	In your opinion, is sex work a legitimate career option for women today?
	There are many groups pushing for STEM-centered career paths, but not many promoting sex work.
	We'll get to that in a sec.
	Thank you, Cloud Flying.
	We'll get to that in a sec.
	How are you going to reward the guy?
	You talking Sing the D?
	Yeah, why not?
	You're going to S the D?
	You can get rewarded that way.
	I don't feel like that.
	How about you?
	How are you going to reward?
	Are you going to reward with the S and the D?
	Yeah.
	Sing the D?
	Yeah.
	It's a bow.
	It's crazy to say.
	It's amazing that you guys don't think that's as big of an act of submission as a little bow.
	You will let a guy splunk on your face.
	In your mouth.
	But you won't just bow for a guy?
	I like that.
	It's crazy, son.
	These girls, they wouldn't cook for a guy.
	What?
	But you'll let a guy blast all over you.
	You can cook for a guy.
	That's actually crazy, son.
	I never said I wouldn't cook.
	I love to cook for a man.
	I'm just giving an example here.
	I'm giving an example.
	You wouldn't bow, right?
	You'll let a guy.
	You know something interesting about this?
	I have this thing where, like, I cannot get on my knees and give head if I don't respect a man.
	I refuse to get on my knees and give you head if I don't respect you.
	That's like a bow.
	you prefer like 69 or something or like if you don't respect him like I just can't do it he's like language I'm not going to do that, period.
	Yeah, like I just can't do it.
	Can I play Devil's Advocate?
	Are you expecting him to go down then?
	So here's the thing.
	Oh, are we talking casually?
	Are we talking a relationship?
	I've been in a relationship.
	I just want to hear you personally.
	Where do you stand?
	I don't always expect to actually know.
	Okay.
	Based.
	Okay.
	I feel like you've got to warm it up.
	So I do.
	Damn, y'all crazy though.
	You guys are going to be a little bit more scared.
	I just feel like all of that is included in having intercourse.
	That's all a part of intercourse to me.
	Okay, but then is it expected for then?
	There's a man expecting it too?
	Is it not fair that he has a business?
	I just said it's a part of it.
	Okay, okay.
	Yeah.
	It's just crazy to me.
	Like, you guys don't want to bow.
	I never said I'm getting.
	I just got stipulations.
	Stipulations to what?
	To the bow?
	Like, yeah, what's the conversation?
	Shouldn't it be the reverse?
	Shouldn't it be the reverse, though?
	Like, you'll wait until the marriage and the car.
	I don't even agree with the car thing, but you'll wait until marriage and car for sex, but maybe the bow, you'll give a little early on.
	I'm not sure.
	It seems like sex is a bigger give than a bow.
	It is, it is, however.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, like you can bend me over, and that's fine, but I'm not going to just bend over to do the bow.
	Now listen.
	I like that one.
	Listen.
	That's well put.
	Let's keep it on task at where you said on the first date.
	But do you think it's because in modern times women think that they equate sex with a man with attention from the guy?
	So they feel like that's more of a fair trade.
	Whereas if you just do the bow, it's like, you're not the boss of me.
	I can submit.
	I feel like sex goes both ways.
	I want it too.
	That is a fair argument because the bow is one-directional.
	Whereas, well, I mean, I would even argue, I don't even think, I mean, my view is sex is an equal value exchange, but I actually do think a lot of women view it as like, I'm giving up something.
	Like, I don't know.
	Y'all are the ones that come like a hundred times in one go.
	Some of y'all beat that.
	But a lot of women just can't.
	Yeah.
	What do you mean?
	They just can't come.
	I don't know.
	The dudes will be fucking up then.
	Well, that's not always the case.
	Sometimes they literally, yeah.
	I mean, yeah, it's medical, but I also think that promiscuity leads to intimacy issues.
	And if you're screwing every guy, he ain't going to be able to make you come.
	Oh, well, for example, it's not always easy for me, but like, you know, I haven't been with many men.
	Actually, when I was with just one man, I still couldn't do anything.
	Maybe he wasn't with the Rubik's Cube.
	I had a friend who couldn't either ever, like, ever.
	Like, even on their own?
	There's a pretty good one on their own.
	She just now.
	Some women can.
	Some women, it's pretty fancy.
	I mean, sometimes it's just mental.
	Sometimes it's not a mental health.
	I was going to say a lot of the time it is mental.
	Yeah.
	Because in order for me to, I have to, like, I have to focus.
	I can't have any distraction.
	There's also like little things that could happen that are like instantly I have the ick.
	I'm like, okay, no.
	Speaking of this, wait, actually, speaking of this, the whole like, this, I guess, the orgasm response thing, it actually occurred to me that, so there's this term in the ritual.
	I think you might be familiar with it, like the alpha widow term where like once as a woman, you've like met a certain caliber of guy, and it might not even be within the realm of like sex.
	It could be his personality, he's really attractive, successful, he has status.
	If you date like a like a, I don't know, a really rich guy, it's gonna be hard to like go and date the guy who lives in a dorm, who shares like who has roommates.
	It's like a little harder to go back to that, but like speaking within the realm of like sex, I actually think that this can happen to men too.
	This is often framed as something that only happens to women, but actually, like, speaking specifically on the sex topic, like once you girls have like dated a guy who can do that just right, it can be hard to like go date a guy who's kind of like subpar in the bedroom.
	Not to say that that's all that women care about, obviously not.
	I think women care about other things far more, but in terms of being sexually satisfied, I do think it's harder once you've like been with a guy who does it, you know, just the way you want it to.
	What the fuck?
	Okay, hide that for a sec.
	We'll pull it back up later.
	I think the same can happen to a dude.
	We can get kind of spoiled because like there's some women who like it's crazy, son.
	Yeah.
	Like I'm talking like instant climax and then like multiples and can come like 30 times.
	Yep.
	I don't know what's going on over here.
	I said yep.
	You know something about that.
	It's true.
	You speak effects.
	Word.
	I don't know.
	It's crazy.
	You don't, some of these girls like one thrust boom.
	Premature ejaculation.
	Why?
	Here's a double standard.
	Why is it bad when it happens to a guy?
	Okay, anyways, it's fine if you know again.
	I don't think it's bad.
	I know, I'm kidding.
	Yeah, I don't think it's bad.
	The women just keep going.
	Anyways, okay.
	I want to move it.
	It's moving on to something else.
	But it's definitely the case that men can get helpful with it too.
	All right, oh, yeah, we're going to lower that in just a sec.
	You can pull that up.
	I think I had one chat come through.
	No, actually, we're good.
	Wait, we, oh, the, the, okay, I do need to pull this one back up.
	Oh, it's below the threshold.
	Okay.
	Well, there it is.
	We had cloud flying.
	In your opinion, is sex work a legitimate career option for women today?
	Actually, well, we don't have nobody here has OnlyFans, correct?
	I do.
	Gosh.
	Wait, really?
	I thought this was a non-I didn't know.
	Oh, no.
	No, it's not a problem.
	I just, I thought for some reason you guys didn't say, so.
	So you guys do OF.
	I said content.
	Yeah, but you wouldn't know.
	What do you mean?
	I wouldn't.
	Like, my page is literally like all music stuff.
	Like, really, you subscribe to literally watch me talk about my experience in the industry and stuff like that.
	Are you just naked while you're talking?
	Absolutely not.
	So there's no like adult content if you wanted to pay for stuff, but it's more so like not news, more so like lingerie stuff, biking, feet pictures.
	Wait, then what about you?
	So my page is about astrology.
	I post about that.
	But the reason I started, I had a friend, but she's in my close friends on Instagram.
	And personally.
	Hold on.
	Can you lower the volume a little bit?
	Yo, stay safe.
	Thank you for the raid, dude.
	I hope you had a good time.
	I assume you're playing World of Warcraft.
	Cataclysm just came out.
	We're going to interrupt this segment here.
	Talk about World of Warcraft.
	Briefly, thank you, Stay Safe for the raids.
	If one of the mods can do a shout out over there on Twitch, thank you for the raid, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Ladies, going around the table, would you date a guy who plays a female gnome warlock with pink hair?
	No, I play video games.
	I understand.
	You understand the female gnome warlock with pink hair?
	It's a character on the game, right?
	Nick, can you pull up a Stay Safe his Instagram?
	Would you guys date this guy?
	He's a good friend, close friend.
	I'm gonna set him up with one of you.
	So we're gonna go around the table.
	We'll see.
	Would you date him?
	What are you doing?
	I don't know if you...
	You got this Instagram?
	Guys, go to Twitch.
	By the way, if you're over here from staysafe, twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow.
	Drop us a prime sub if you have one.
	There it is.
	That's definitely not his girlfriend.
	Scroll down.
	That's about to be the first question.
	Don't worry about that.
	Scroll down.
	Definitely not.
	That's his sister.
	Keep scrolling down.
	Scroll down.
	God damn, Margaret.
	Why are you posting all these?
	I'm trying to hook you up, dude.
	Keep scrolling.
	There we go.
	Click that one.
	Yeah.
	Scareab Lord.
	Stay safe.
	So would you date a guy who plays as a female dwarf warlock with pink hair?
	And also, would you just scroll down, exile that, scroll down a little bit, Nick?
	Oh, that's good.
	So would you date this guy in the event that, you know, he becomes single again?
	No.
	No?
	What about you?
	I don't know.
	I don't even know the personality.
	You know.
	Gamer is not a singular personality.
	Would you date?
	Would you date?
	No.
	Not because of the game, though.
	No.
	But no.
	Because of the gnome?
	There's a few things I saw that I'd played.
	Like, you'd rather him play like human warlock?
	No, it's not about the game.
	I don't care if he plays the character.
	Oh, you're more like Horde.
	You'd prefer if he played on the Horde versus Alliance.
	What?
	Like, you'd prefer like an undead.
	You'd prefer Undead Warlock?
	I don't care what he picks to play a video game.
	I don't care about video game.
	I love it.
	Oh, you prefer more, like, okay, you prefer an orc warlock because of like the stun resist for PvP.
	Sure.
	Yeah, like Undead has Will of the Forsaken, but like Orc, you could argue like Stun Resist would be a little better.
	I have no idea what you're talking about.
	He plays Alliance a Gnome, which like that's more of a PvE.
	Like, I mean, there's a Scape Artist or whatever, but like the intellect bonus and the engineering bonus, like, I mean, you know.
	What about you?
	Probably not.
	You wouldn't date him?
	What about?
	I mean, you're married, but if you were single.
	What if he serves?
	Yeah, if he serves and he does outdoor stuff.
	Okay.
	Are you saying like this is what he does as a career or just a hobby?
	He plays like a casual like 14 hours a day.
	A day?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay, what about you?
	Would you date him?
	Not for 14 hours a day, but like if he played less, like if he was like less sweaty, you would date him.
	Yeah, sure.
	Like if he's a bit more light.
	Like if he was a dad gamer, you would date him.
	What's a dad gamer?
	What he is.
	Like, you know, like he's in the dad guild or whatever.
	Like they play a little bit, you know?
	Yeah, I mean, I don't really know much about gaming, but like they're wifing on Lucy.
	Who's Lucy?
	Lucifron.
	Molten Core.
	This jargon.
	Yeah.
	Like they're like hard stuck on Veil in BWL.
	Yeah, I mean.
	Like that's the kind of guy you would date.
	Like a guy who's in a guild who's like hard stuck on Veil.
	I don't know.
	In BWL.
	I don't know what anything you're saying means.
	Okay, just checking.
	What about you?
	Like if you're single?
	Would you date him?
	If all he does is play video games?
	No, like he, let's just say he's in a dad guild.
	Hard stuck on Veil.
	I don't know what that means.
	And their roster, it's like they're always struggling to like fill 40 for a raid.
	They're all looking at me like I can help.
	You know about it.
	Rachel's a World of Warcraft expert.
	I don't know what that is.
	Say about the Sims.
	And their raid comp is like dog.
	Like absolute dog shit.
	Like they're bad at video games?
	No, just like the raid comp.
	No, just like the raid comp's terrible.
	Like it's a bunch of hunters, like feral druids, elemental shamans, like rent paladins, like just dog.
	I know what a shaman is.
	Like totally suboptimal.
	Like and they're all they're parsing in like 50 percentile on Warcraft vlogs.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	If he plays that game and if he's addicted, then no.
	I'm not.
	Hmm?
	That's a fucking 50 DKP minus!
	What the fuck was that shit?
	Okay, anyways, moving on.
	Thank you, stay safe for the raid.
	Appreciate it.
	Yeah, pull up Twitch.
	Guys, you better, I better get follows from you guys after that.
	Guys, follow me on Twitch.
	Drop a follow.
	And also, oh my, are we bugged?
	Or it's been a minute since a Twitch Prime?
	Oh, no, the tier one.
	It's been two minutes since.
	I think our Twitch Prime isn't working.
	So guys, drop us a follow if you enjoyed that little World of Warcraft dating segment.
	Like, I don't know if you guys know this, but like, this is pretty much me.
	Like, I'm basically AoE farming, like, the whatever, like, the dating podcast thing.
	Like, like, I'm basically Joker D when it comes to like AoE farming, noobs and shit.
	Like, you know, I'm like a mage, and I'm just like, you know, Cone of Cold, Flamestrike, Cone of Cold, Ice Nova, Arcane Explosion, Blizzard, Blizzard, Blizzard.
	Like, that's what I'm doing with this podcast.
	So you guys better follow and drop some fucking Prime Boys.
	Okay, thank you.
	Oh, right.
	We're going to lower it.
	Okay, anyway, sorry.
	What were we talking about?
	What were we talking about before this?
	My brain just went blank.
	Yeah.
	It was about what?
	We were talking to you, right?
	Oh, sex work?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, OnlyFans.
	OnlyFans.
	Okay, question for the panel.
	In your opinion, is sex work?
	Short quick answers if you can.
	Is sex work a legitimate career option for women today, starting with you, going around the table?
	I mean, if you can monetize off of it, then sure.
	I mean, not for me, but like, do what you gotta do, I guess.
	And do what you gotta do.
	I'm a supporter.
	Supporter?
	Okay.
	No.
	No.
	Again, not for me, but like if they have to, then.
	No.
	No.
	I have a question for you.
	Do you think there's a scenario where any woman has to do sex work?
	Yeah, I don't think so, but like, I can see how for some people, like, if they're really struggling for money, that's the easiest option for them.
	And I'm not going to say anything if that's what they choose to do.
	$69 TTS starting now.
	I mean, you can be born into sex work.
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Like, if you're trafficked, like, if your mom was trafficked, and then you have to.
	Yeah, but sex work is a choice.
	Like, we're talking, like, you're choosing to make an OnlyFans or you're choosing to prostitute yourself.
	I don't think we're talking about that.
	We're not talking about child sex trafficking.
	What I was going to say before was, on my close friends, I like to twerk.
	That's something I enjoy doing.
	So, that is why.
	What?
	Yeah, I actually love it.
	So, why are you doing that?
	You like to twerk?
	I do.
	I literally enjoy it.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	That's valid.
	So my friend was like, you need to make elegants.
	And I'm like, why not?
	Because you like to twerk.
	I mean, I could sell that.
	Is that what you sell on?
	You said you do tarot reading.
	So is it like tarot, part tarot, part twerking?
	So if you were to go on my page, it's astrology information.
	There's people that follow me for astrology.
	But if they would like to see other things in the messages, they can buy a twerking.
	What's the best month for twerking?
	I'm not consistent.
	It's not my first job.
	It's not something I'm like, this is what I'm going to do.
	You're not like, what, zodiac something?
	Yeah, like, what's the best zodiac for twerking?
	Like, are there certain, like Jupiter rising?
	Is that a good time to twerk?
	Does that twerk?
	Oh, please.
	No, that's a serious.
	I'm serious.
	That's a serious question.
	Repeat that question.
	I'm sorry.
	Like, if it's like, you know, if you're Capricorn and it's, you know, that time of the, like, it's the Jupiter rising.
	So we got a twerk.
	Is that like a good time to twerk?
	There's always a good time to twerk.
	It's always a good time to twerk.
	It actually releases trauma because you hold trauma in your hips.
	So shake that shit.
	Wait, hold on.
	Say that one more time, just the way you said it.
	I said twerking releases trauma.
	You hold trauma in your hips.
	So shake that shit.
	What?
	Period.
	Wait, don't worry about it.
	What can woman battle?
	What are you talking about?
	Wait, hold trauma in your hips and twerking releases trauma.
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	I got to do that.
	That's why I got cultural.
	I got to start twerking, boys.
	It's like voodoo witchcraft.
	Sign me up.
	Basically.
	Sacral chakra releasing.
	Oh, Lord.
	Exactly, but sure.
	Do you think I would benefit from twerking?
	Yes.
	I've got some stuff I'm doing.
	Brian's really gone through some stuff.
	Gone through some stuff.
	Let me go to the twerk doctor.
	No, honestly though, if you guys can get a prescription from a doctor.
	Like, maybe not like a MD, but like a homeopathic doctor.
	Let me say this.
	Cloudflying donated $69.
	Brian, what happened to Chase?
	His last appearance was Great Buthees MIA.
	$6,969,696,969.
	Thank you, sir.
	Chase, he was on.
	He joined me for the interview with Orion Taraban, but yeah, he's been on in a while.
	I think he doesn't really like arguing with trumpets.
	That's what he told me.
	He said he doesn't like arguing with trumpets.
	But that's kind of it.
	JP donated $69.
	Won't bow because it feels like worship.
	But wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.
	For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church.
	Oops.
	I think that's a tough one on this panel because there's only like, what, two of us that are Christians?
	I'm a Christian.
	Okay, so there's no reason for you.
	Who's Christian?
	You're Christian?
	Yes.
	What's the question?
	Anonymous donated $69.
	Twerk, Brian.
	Let's see that dumpy.
	Where is this like?
	Did somebody catch a glimpse?
	Like, people keep saying I have a dumpy or like a fatty.
	You're not denying it.
	What you gonna do with it?
	Whoa.
	What you gonna do?
	Oh.
	Oh.
	No, I don't know.
	Nothing.
	Nothing.
	What I was gonna say was that if you look it up, doing yoga, like for women, it actually does release trauma throughout your hips.
	So twerking, yoga, stretching, it's a thing.
	I believe it.
	I was gonna ask the priest this morning for some holy water.
	I was gonna put in a squirt gun.
	And then when you guys said anything, I just damn.
	But I didn't do it.
	Kind of makeup right now.
	Oh, it's holy water, so it won't ruin your makeup.
	It'll just like, you know, get you out of your pagan, your pagan nonsense.
	I'll twerk for a Bitcoin.
	You know what?
	Somebody donates a Bitcoin, I'll do it.
	So when I want to twerk on my OnlyFans, it's a problem.
	But you're going to twerk for Bitcoin.
	Like.
	Everybody has their price.
	Exactly.
	Everybody.
	Bitcoin.
	What is that?
	70K right now?
	Mm-hmm.
	Shit.
	Well.
	What were you saying about Christians and denominations?
	Oh, yeah, what's your denomination?
	I'm Seventh-day Adventist.
	Is that like Protestant?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Is anybody else here religious?
	I was raised Baptist.
	Oh, we know you're LDS.
	You're a twerk.
	Torque God.
	Believe in the torque God.
	What would you say?
	Like, are you kind of New Age or do you follow any specific thing besides astrology?
	So like I was saying, I was raised in a Baptist church, Christian.
	My family is Christian.
	I'm sure that if I passed away, they are going to bury me as a Christian, like that form.
	That's how I'd like to think about it.
	But I do, I like knowledge.
	Just like you like to read data and like science.
	Yeah.
	That's me.
	So I like to learn new information and apply it to my life.
	I would consider myself spiritual, though.
	You would consider yourself spiritual, but you don't follow like a certain path?
	I have before.
	Like I, like I said, I was raised in the church, and I've also taken it upon myself while I was in college to go to church alone and have my own relationship with God.
	I still have a relationship with God, but I also believe in learning other forms of practice.
	Yeah, I was just wondering, like, if you've checked into like Hinduism or theosophy or like New Age or different things or I haven't.
	Or if you just kind of do the spirituality buffet where like I take a little yoga and a little astrology and a little bit of this and a little bit of that and kind of mishmash it.
	Pretty much.
	Yeah.
	What drew you to astrology?
	I've always asked everybody there, zodiac sign, and then I started to understand how like deep it is.
	Like your entire blueprint to your life is there.
	So it comes down to if you want to actually know that information or if you don't.
	I never shove it down people's throat.
	I'm not going to try and make people believe what I believe, but I do truly believe in it.
	It shows you it can answer a lot in your life.
	Brian.
	The eyebrows.
	I'm just so caught up in this astrology talk.
	Mike Davis donated $69.
	Brian, I am not impressed with this panel.
	I want to see prettier females in the future.
	Sorry, disappointing.
	Mike Davis, I was a fan of you before, but after that, I don't know.
	Wow.
	I'd like to see your face on here.
	Speaking of.
	Yeah.
	Scroll it down just a little bit.
	This is Mike Davis.
	He's the resident roaster.
	He likes to roast a lot.
	Scroll it up a little bit.
	You're cutting off his Burger King hat.
	He owns multiple Burger Kings.
	Many Burger Kings.
	I like y'all breakfast.
	Actually, Mike Davis is single, so.
	Well, he doesn't like anybody over here, so.
	Can I say you are using it?
	He's not impressed.
	She's not impressed.
	Thank you.
	Mike Davis, maybe say something nice and I can set up a date.
	Can I get you a date with one of the ladies?
	Okay, anyways.
	I did want to come to you, actually, over here.
	So you've never had a boyfriend ever.
	Never, you doesn't even sound like you've been on a date.
	No.
	Are you religious at all or no?
	Just haven't found the right guy?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so, I mean, you've never done anything with a guy then?
	Not beside kissing.
	Okay, so you're a virgin then?
	Yeah.
	And are you waiting until marriage or no?
	Just the right guy?
	Yeah.
	Do you have a sense of maybe you're not waiting until marriage, but like, I assume you don't want to have a one-night stand too?
	No, I don't.
	You'd prefer, would you prefer it to be like a boyfriend at least?
	Something like that.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	And are you thinking maybe sophomore year is going to be the year, or are you still going to just be a forever alone?
	I mean, I don't know.
	I hope that's not.
	What?
	Sorry.
	Okay.
	So if you don't want to wait till marriage, like I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
	How do you determine?
	It just seems a little ambiguous for me.
	Like, how long do you have to be with a boyfriend?
	I mean, I don't think you have to be with anyone for anything like.
	I'm okay with one night stands too.
	Like, I wouldn't do it because I just don't think I'd be comfortable if I don't know the person.
	But you're fine with it.
	Yeah, like, I don't have nothing against it.
	Okay.
	You know what we should do?
	We should do the bumble section.
	So, we're going to do a segment called actually, it doesn't even have a name, but we're going to have you each get.
	Oh, hold on.
	Remember, Memorial Day donated $69.
	Thank you.
	Hi, Brian.
	U.S. Army veteran here.
	Joined age 28, now 33, physically/slash/mentally messed up from it.
	Affecting dating life versus before, lost Riz, body pain, wondering the girls, thoughts/slash/advice with ex-military.
	So, like, would they date a guy who is ex-military?
	I think I could frame the question like that.
	Would you date a guy?
	How about let me, would you date a guy who's well, you did say ex-military?
	Timothy donated $69.
	Brickson.
	What are you going to do with all that junk?
	All that junk inside your trunk.
	You should consult your doctor to see if twerking is right for you.
	Good, the twerk doctor.
	Thank you, Timothy.
	So, would you guys date, hmm, how do I frame this?
	A guy who was in the because he says ex-military.
	Would you date a veteran?
	Oh, I'm sorry, I was reading that.
	Yes, I would have to reboot.
	You would?
	What about you?
	Yeah, I mean, just like any person, I gotta know who they are.
	Okay, yeah, absolutely.
	I have dated ex-military, and he had PTSD, and that was really scary.
	So, you wouldn't, if you were single, you wouldn't date somebody if they saw like combat, like intense combat, I would say no.
	But if they were they didn't do much, didn't see much, then I would say, yeah, I have no problem.
	Yeah, I would date them, me too, Rachel?
	Well, yeah, I mean, if I was if I was single and he was singing.
	Yeah, if you're single, yeah, okay.
	And uh, wait, shoot, I had a question related to this, but uh, uh, he's so he's joined at age 28, he's now 33.
	Is this Mason from the future?
	Aw, Mason.
	Good luck, Mason.
	Yeah, he's going off to the, well, he's going off to the Air Force, dating life, wondering the girl's thoughts, advice, ex-military.
	I don't really know what kind of advice he wants.
	Advice.
	See a therapist?
	Not like in a bad way, but talk about therapy.
	Wait, hold on.
	There's something else I wanted to go to.
	Wait, oh, I remember what it was.
	Wait, so you're saying, like, you and your brother.
	Totally off topic.
	You said you like to argue with your husband.
	Can we do a roleplay here?
	Like, let me hear you angry.
	Go ahead.
	I'm your husband.
	Take it out on me.
	Go ahead.
	It's good.
	It's therapeutic.
	You said he likes to poke you a little bit, right?
	Say something mean to her.
	Okay.
	Or make her mad.
	Ah, man.
	Like.
	Be like, oh, you really sucked out there on that surfboard today.
	You know?
	You missed that fucking set wave.
	What do you fucking kook?
	So he'll watch me compete sometimes and he'll say that kind of stuff.
	He'll be like, God, you were paddling so slow.
	Why did you not wait for the bat?
	And what would I say back to him?
	But he's a good coach, so I appreciate his feedback.
	In the moment, I'd be like, that's really not a good time to be saying that to me after I just got out of the water.
	I don't know.
	Say it how you would say it if we were arguing.
	That's really fucked up.
	Do you really have to talk to me like that right now?
	I just got out of the water.
	Let me put my jersey away.
	There we go.
	That's very good.
	Well, I don't know if it was good.
	I mean, it was good she got in the role.
	She got into the mood.
	Because you're like kind of soft-spoken and there's another, there's a dark, there's a dark side of things.
	Cloud flying to $169.
	Ladies, you must choose.
	Boyfriend who thinks astrology is whack bullshite or become a submissive wife.
	Rachel, what does submissive mean to you?
	Okay, so first question: boyfriend who thinks astrology is whack.
	Wait, what?
	Choose.
	So date a guy who thinks astrology is whack or become a submissive wife.
	Okay, those are the options.
	Go together, but.
	Yeah, I was going to.
	So you have to choose.
	Like, if you're, if you're, if she, your friend's like, oh, what sign are you in?
	The guy that you're dating is like, I think that's stupid.
	I don't believe in any of that stuff.
	I'd rather date.
	I've got a bunch of men that don't believe in astrology.
	So.
	I mean.
	I already don't.
	I mean, no offense.
	I don't care.
	But so yeah.
	So the choice is: you have to date a guy who thinks astrology is bullshit, or you have to, or you have to be a submissive housewife.
	Yeah, I think we all think that like the guy who thinks astrology is whack is probably going to be the same guy that you're submissive.
	Right, housewife to?
	Is that what we're doing?
	Well, I guess the simplest question is probably.
	Here's the scenario.
	So the boyfriend thinks astrology is whack, but it's a 50-50 relationship, or you become a submissive housewife, but he's all for astrology.
	I guess that's the likely, but yeah.
	It does.
	I'd be the submissive housewife, yeah.
	Okay, what do I mean?
	I'd be the submissive housewife, but why does he believe in astrology?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I'm having a hard time with the believing in astrology thing.
	I would date the guy who thinks astrology is whack.
	I think I would be the submissive housewife.
	Wait, you would date the astrology is whack guy?
	Yeah.
	Versus being the submissive wife?
	Yeah.
	Do you not want to be submissive in your relationship?
	Like, what do you mean by submissive?
	Like bowing.
	That was the second part of the question.
	Yeah, so the second part is, Rachel, what does submissive mean to you?
	To me, it's a biblical thing, but I think in general, it just means that you submit to your husband in all things.
	So there's none of this.
	Well, you have to consult me first, and I have to agree with everything, and you have to justify everything before you can make the decision.
	And we have, you know, like the 50-50 thing.
	I think submission is you're saying, look, yes, you're in charge of everything, and I submit to your will in all things, but also that's because you have all the responsibility.
	So you need the authority to go with the responsibility, right?
	If we want the men to defend us with their life, pay for everything, handle all the tough situations, then they need the authority to go along with that level of responsibility, I would say.
	So if you went home and Andrew was like, Rachel, astrology is real.
	Mike Davis donated $69.
	Nothing honorable about being a puppet on the strings serving people who view you as disposable.
	Our enemies aren't some poor bum in cave in Afghanistan, but our leaders here.Military service is low IQ.
	Is this in response to that military gun?
	Yo, Mike Davis, thank you, dude.
	Good to see you back in the chat.
	I've been wondering where you were.
	I know you've been busy with them Burger King franchises.
	Let me just say this, Mike Davis.
	You will always be welcome at the whatever podcast.
	You'll get it your way at the end of the podcast, Mike Davis.
	Ben George donated $69.
	Would you date a paramilitary member that bows to his wife and has a PhD in astrology?
	What?
	Sure.
	Oh, whoops.
	Super chatters are drinking tonight.
	Okay, we'll go around them.
	We'll come back to the submissive submission thing.
	I'll say sure.
	Sure.
	Wait, they believe in astrology?
	Is that what it said?
	Yeah, they have a PhD in it.
	Oh, they have a PhD.
	And they'll bow to you.
	No.
	Yeah, why not?
	no no no no no did you want i don't know if you two were having an issue She was asking something about if Andrew was into astrology.
	I could totally see him doing.
	You'll get home off the plane and he'll be like, Rachel, astrology is legit.
	Yeah, I think we all can see Andrew being super into astrology.
	We can all foresee that happening.
	Would you submit to that?
	No.
	No, because the thing about biblical submission is the one thing we don't have to submit to is if our husband is like trying to get us to do something inherently sinful, like something that is, especially like a mortal sin, like apostasy.
	No.
	You don't have to submit to that.
	Wait, I have a question.
	In under Orthodox Christianity, is being an apostate punishable by death?
	No.
	Okay.
	Is that just in Islam?
	Yeah.
	Right?
	As far as I'm aware, I don't know any other religions where they kill you for it.
	Okay.
	I just wasn't sure.
	Explain what an apostate is?
	It's when you leave the religion.
	So it's like, say you're a baptized Orthodox Christian and you turn your back on the religion and you no longer practice or believe it.
	We do think that you'll be judged much more harshly than somebody who was never baptized and doesn't believe.
	So you're like Jehovah's Witnesses.
	My grandmother is a Jehovah's Witness.
	So like if you leave the church or whatever, they shun you.
	Yeah.
	They'll shun your kids.
	Get shunned.
	Like your family too.
	Yeah.
	We have a question here from Stiffler.
	Ask everyone to rate their looks on the scale 1 to 10.
	Gralzulu donated $69.
	So abortion.
	Thoughts?
	Okay, why not?
	We'll come back to Stiffler's question.
	Didn't you say that you had a couple, if I recall?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Just really quick.
	Who's show of hands?
	Who's pro-choice?
	Show of hands?
	Who's pro-choice?
	Wait.
	Okay, who's pro-life?
	You guys like roommates or something?
	Don't you guys live together?
	We're neighbors.
	Oh, neighbors?
	Do you guys like argue about this shit?
	No, we haven't ever talked about that.
	Oh, okay.
	That's the end of that friendship.
	Going to UCSP.
	Okay.
	So I don't know.
	I don't really talk about abortion on the show, but.
	I mean.
	You got anything, Rachel?
	You against it?
	I'm against it.
	Against it.
	We believe that it's, you know, murder.
	So.
	Nickelodeon donated $69.
	Nickelodeon.
	Ladies of the panel, of the men you've had a romantic relationship with, what percentage would you say were narcissistic or sociopathic?
	Shout out, RW.
	You were great on Timcast.
	Chen was insufferable.
	I like Lauren.
	Not in that way, but like she's been on the show.
	I thought she was reasonable.
	Reyes Television donated $69.
	We'll come to that, Nickelodeon.
	LDS girl.
	Hi, sister.
	Andrew said he wants to debate an LDS person.
	I don't think I'm ready for a conversation doctrine-wise, but would you be willing?
	If so, Brian slash Rachel, can you make it happen?
	I mean, would you want to debate?
	The LDS?
	Debate, like, Andrew Wilson?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I don't know if you.
	Are you a debater?
	I don't know if I'm like a debater.
	I definitely feel like he would tear me to pieces.
	I definitely feel like I could stand up for what I believe.
	$69.
	Would you rather your past partners remember you as the best sex they've had or the best relationship they've had?
	Assume average in the other of what you pick.
	Anime thighs or my demise?
	Okay, interesting name.
	Really quick before we get to that, we had Nickelodeon.
	Of the men you've had, and by the way, Nickelodeon, I did read your chat that came in a while back.
	It took me a while to get to it, but just wanted to let you know, I did read it.
	Mike Davis to Nature $69.
	The message is simple.
	Serving in the military is nothing but beta behavior, bowing to masters who wouldn't shed a tear over your death.
	Enemies aren't abroad.
	They're right here in a suit and tie.
	Mike Davis, though, do you think there's been any wars, at least in the U.S. history, that were righteous?
	or any military conflicts in recent history that have been righteous wars, or do you think they've all been like, nah.
	Okay, anyways, thank you, Mike Davis.
	Appreciate it.
	Wait, so okay, we had two things here.
	Nickelodeon asks: of the men you've had romantic relationships with, would you say they were narcissistic or sociopathic?
	Yes, definitely.
	How many men would you say?
	Three out of four.
	Three out of four?
	What about you?
	Any narcissists or sociopaths?
	I wouldn't necessarily define it like that.
	No.
	Okay, what about you?
	Yes.
	No.
	No.
	Not applicable.
	Not NA.
	N-A.
	N-A.
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	But I will say, if you think the majority of your past partners have been narcissists, it's a you thing.
	You're the common denominator there.
	Shots fired.
	Do you care to respond to the accusation?
	It's been one of my partners, and I got out of that, so I'm willing to admit that I was accepting of that, and now I'm not.
	I think if it's one, like say you've dated 10 guys and it's one, that could be a one-off.
	That could be a wildcard.
	But if it's three out of four, you gotta have bad choices in men.
	That's what it is, because it's honestly truly not me.
	But yeah, to each their own word.
	Okay, and then we did have from Anime Thighs are my demise.
	I'll let her read it again.
	Anime thighs are my demise donated $69.
	Would you rather your past partners remember you as the best sex they've had or the best relationship they've had?
	Assume average in the other of what you pick.
	You rather your past partners remember you as the best.
	They've had the best relationship they've had.
	Hmm.
	I'd rather be the best relationship.
	Oh, best relationship.
	Relationship.
	Best relationship.
	Best relationship.
	Me too.
	Wow.
	That's interesting.
	We finally have a consensus.
	Best sex.
	I think most guys would say that, don't you think?
	I don't know.
	That guys would generally rather be remembered for the best date and not like, oh, he was such a great boyfriend.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Anyways, thank you for that question.
	Let's see here.
	Where were we?
	Oh, Stiffler, of course.
	Stiffler.
	Ask everyone to rate their looks on the scale of one to ten, starting with you.
	Go ahead.
	Ten.
	Oh, seven?
	Ten.
	Seven.
	Seven?
	I'm like, right now, five or six, but like if I had time to get ready and stuff, probably like a seven or an eight.
	I think a seven.
	I'd say five.
	Who said 10?
	All right, now pause.
	As somebody that likes natural women, if a woman says they think them themselves are a ten, how is that bad?
	Don't you have lip filler?
	I do.
	I also like modesty in women.
	You know, that's kind of a thing.
	But I'm just going to say it.
	Brian, you always say modesty.
	You two are not tens.
	You and you're a 10.
	So you.
	Oh, I didn't rate myself.
	I'm a five.
	There you go.
	Average.
	I'm average looking.
	I mean, who's a little weight?
	I could get back to a six if I was better shape.
	A 10 to you is an ironing board, which is fine.
	An ironing board?
	She's saying you don't like girls with tits and ass.
	Ah, no, I never said that.
	Right.
	He just said he prefers.
	I would prefer a girl.
	So that's a 10 to you, though, right?
	What do you mean?
	No, no, no.
	Okay.
	It was about plastic surgery.
	I'm not saying I'm.
	Big boobs are nice.
	Big butt is nice.
	But if it's a choice between flat boobs and fake titties, I'd prefer small, flat, over fake titties.
	Now, if you're like, would you prefer a C cup over an A cup?
	I'd have a slight preference for the C cup.
	But I don't, I'm a labia guy.
	But here's my thing.
	Think of like a woman that we know who you would consider a 10.
	Yeah, like what celebrity.
	Yeah.
	There's no tens.
	Okay, period.
	I'll accept that.
	So when you're talking about like modesty, are you referencing?
	There's face and body.
	Those are two different categories.
	Okay, I have a question.
	So if the woman, because you say you don't rate 10, it's just at most probably a nine, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So say that person you would rate a nine, and then you ask them, how would you rate yourself?
	And they say nine.
	Because they rate themselves exactly as you would, does that not count because it's not modest?
	Or would you then date?
	Well, if my nine assessment of them is that they're nine and they're saying they're a nine, I wouldn't object to their assessment.
	No, just generally curious, yeah.
	Does your modesty lend itself to other aspects or is it just like how well so you say you like modest women, how they talk about themselves.
	Do you like modest women when it comes to clothing and things like that?
	Okay.
	Yeah, I don't want to date a girl who's like it's not a huge like she's got a bikini photo on her Instagram.
	It's not like I mean I would prefer if she had honestly no social media at all or minimal social media or a private social like private Instagram.
	Right.
	And she posted tasteful modest photos.
	So yes, I do prefer modesty in those realms too.
	Public-facing modesty, absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so when you guys say you're a 10, does that mean that you think you are perfect looking or is it more like I'm a 10?
	She doesn't think she's perfect because she wants to get plastic.
	Right, that's what I was asking.
	That's what I was asking.
	I want to be a 20.
	You said you're a 10, but you said you want lip filler and fake tits and the hip fillers, the hip fillers.
	And do.
	And Botox?
	Yep.
	Well, how can you possibly be a 10 if you want those cosmetic procedures?
	I can still feel like I'm a 10 because I know that I'm beautiful.
	just want to be more beautiful but hold on if you're you can't be more beautiful 10 means there's no room for improvement, right?
	I want to be a little bit more scale.
	You want to, huh?
	Break the scale.
	Break the scale.
	Well, you got to eat a lot more food if you want to do that.
	Why is that so important?
	You got to get obese.
	You got to get hit.
	Sorry, Saka.
	Go ahead.
	I'm just wondering why that's so important to you.
	Why this is a good idea?
	But Heavenly Toe donated $69.
	What is Ebony's on Levan's name?
	I like the bare Ellie there short shorts, but I need to know if she has the proper sized text at work.
	D.
	It's actually a skirt, but it's fine.
	Yeah, I don't disclose that.
	But thank you, though.
	It sounds to me like you think that if you can achieve physical perfection, it'll like make up for something.
	It'll fix something in your life.
	Is that why?
	Like, why do you value your looks like so much?
	I've always been into that.
	Like, since I was a kid, like, I've always been into beauty and stuff like that.
	Like, I used to wake up at 3 in the morning to do my hair.
	Why?
	It was just a good thing.
	Everything that I did.
	Was it because you wanted to people to perceive you a certain way?
	Or is this for me?
	Like, when I feel like I look good, I feel good.
	Do you feel like you have more to offer than your looks?
	Of course.
	Okay.
	I was just wondering if there was a connection with, like, you've dated mostly narcissists and guys who were like, you would say abusive to you.
	Like, emotionally, like you said, you were forced to an abortion and these guys are narcissists.
	You have pick bad men and then you're hyper-focused on your looks.
	Does that kind of sounds like it all goes together to me, like a package?
	I mean, it could, but it is what it is.
	Okay.
	I mean.
	I just want to say the question, I feel like all comes down to it's subjective.
	So how do I feel about myself?
	That's how I answered it.
	I'm not going to say that I'm a 10 to you, a 10 to you, at 10 to you, or you guys could feel as though you're a seven to myself.
	I'm going to answer 10 because that's how I feel about myself.
	So you don't think there's like an objective standard of beauty?
	There is, but for myself.
	Wait, what?
	So subjective.
	That's what I said.
	That's what I said.
	Yeah, what she was asking you: do you think there's an objective standard of beauty?
	So like you could have 10 people in a line and objectively one would be an eight and another one would be a four but the question as far as how it was asked asked everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
	So I answered how I felt, but that's all I'm saying.
	I wasn't asked to rate everybody sitting here.
	I was asked to rate myself.
	Does that feel the wrong?
	Pa donated $69.
	Patriotic helmet girl is pretty damn close to a 10.
	It is not just about looks.
	She is the whole package.
	It's a hat, not a hat.
	That was like a bad thing.
	Speaking of which, show us the other side.
	You guys, do you guys like the change up?
	You prefer the hat over the helmet?
	Memorial Day.
	Nick, pull up the chat.
	Pull up the chat.
	Let's see the chat.
	Guys, do you prefer the helmet or the chat?
	Or the hat?
	Do you prefer the helmet?
	Oh, Nick.
	Exposed.
	Do you prefer this hat or the helmet in general?
	I know it's like Memorial Day weekend, but that.
	The flag hat or the German helmet?
	Flag hat or helmet?
	Bo Jangles donated $69.
	Would you rather your hypothetical lonely son use sex workers or have an AI girlfriend?
	Which of the two is worse?
	Would you rather your hypothetical lonely son use sex workers?
	I'm going to go with I gotta go with AI girlfriend.
	I'd prefer the AI girlfriend.
	I would say the same thing because diseases exist.
	Yeah.
	I prefer the AI girlfriend folkshow.
	I want to say it depends on how far AI advances.
	Because for once, I mean, are we going to get real human connection that way?
	Can they learn something?
	I think you'll get that from a sex worker.
	Well, I mean, they're still going to, they're there for a reason, yes.
	But I think there's at least still a smidgen more opportunity to learn human behavior, if that makes sense.
	From a sex worker?
	Well, I mean, you still get to read some body language.
	You can still maybe tell if they're not really as into it as they would like to be.
	You know, you can read someone even when they're.
	Wait, is that what you want in a sex worker encounter that she's not into?
	Sherry donated $69.
	It's my birthday and would love for y'all to sing happy birth.
	We'll do it for a champagne pop.
	You do champagne pop.
	The rate for it is in the description.
	We'll pop champagne for you and we will sing you happy birthday if you pop a champagne bottle.
	Let's do quick answers on this.
	So would you rather your hypothetical lonely son have use a sex worker or have an AI girlfriend?
	AI.
	AI.
	Is it just for sex or is it like what is it for?
	Like a relationship?
	Both.
	So the AI is a girlfriend and the sex worker is probably just going to be for sex.
	Yeah.
	Like he's.
	Okay, wait.
	And then the AI.
	AI.
	AI.
	I guess AI.
	Dystopian future.
	Okay.
	So let's see here.
	Oh, we were talking about the rating thing.
	Okay.
	Well, I have a couple clarifying questions here for you guys.
	Here's another test.
	All else being equal, do you think you will be more physically attractive in 10 years' time for you and you?
	Actually, we'll ask everybody this.
	Yes.
	Okay, so you're 24, so you'll be more physically attractive at 34.
	Hell yeah.
	Okay, what about you?
	And I hope so.
	I mean, I. You're 25, so more attractive at 35.
	I aim to work towards that future.
	Okay, but so, okay, what about you?
	You're 28.
	Will you be more attractive at 38 than you are now?
	Yep.
	Okay, what about you?
	No.
	No?
	No, but I think that I'm more attractive now than when I was 10 years younger.
	So you're more attractive now at 32 than you were at 22?
	Yeah.
	Question: Do you have any photos of you at 22 that we can open this up to the chat?
	But they're like old Facebook stuff with stupid filters at the like.
	I don't know.
	Let me look.
	What about you?
	Yeah.
	Do you think you'll be.
	So you're 18?
	You'll be more attractive at 28.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I think you're 18.
	You'll be more attractive at 28.
	Yes.
	I guess, Rachel, you two on this?
	Absolutely not.
	Like, that's total, that's peak delusional to think that you're going to be hotter in 10 years.
	This is one of the ones that just stumps me.
	When we're like, oh, I'll totally be hotter in 10 years.
	Like, even if you look good for your age in 10 years, even if you like lost weight, things like that, it's like you don't get hotter as you age as a woman.
	That's not how it works.
	Like attractiveness, physical attractiveness.
	Some women that really do.
	Okay, so like J-Lo looks great for being 60 or whatever she is, but J-Lo is not hotter at 60 than she was at 30 or 20.
	Because you said.
	Beyonce is not hotter now than she was 20 years.
	None of these women, gorgeous as they are at an older age, are hotter now than they were when they were young.
	I'm gonna allow that Virgos.
	I'm gonna allow that because you said physically, okay, but I really think that knowledge is sexy.
	Yeah, but we're talking about physical attractiveness.
	I will say that I think in general, people who are 10 years younger are way more attractive.
	For me in particular, I think I got cuter.
	I think there's some people that might have like a drastic transformation.
	Like say you were 250 pounds when you were 22, and then you get in shape and you look amazing like 10 years later.
	Okay, but like in an outlier situation.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And all things being equal.
	Yeah, that is the question, all things being equal.
	So people like to do this thing of like, well, yeah, at 21, I was morbidly obese, and then at 31, I was in, I was healthy body weight, got the excess skin removed, got plastic surgery, perfected my skill with makeup, whatever it is.
	It's comparing, like, imagine you had all those things.
	Oh, I learned how to dress better, I did my makeup better, lost weight, skincare, et cetera.
	If you had all those things at 21 and at 31, how can the answer not be you're better looking at 21?
	Or you can think of it this way: take two eights, two women who are an eight.
	They're exactly the same on the attractiveness scale, but one of them is 35 and one of them is 22.
	Men are going to go for the 22-year-old every single time.
	I think you also have to consider too, like, we're all women, and I don't know how many of you want to have children, but like, I will definitely have children within the next 10 years, and that will take a toll on my body.
	And so, yeah, I'm not going to be more attractive in 10 years from now.
	So, we found a picture of you.
	This is actually 11 years ago, April 5th, 2013.
	Your very first photo on Instagram.
	Nick, I'm going to link that in the private chat.
	Linked.
	Okay.
	April 5th, 2013.
	The chat is going to compare.
	Granted, we have you in 1080p, and this is from 2013, but you can, yeah, sure.
	No, it's fine.
	Oh, God.
	Yeah.
	So that's you, Nick.
	Hyde, move us up, please.
	So, oh, just high, so it's April 5th, 2013.
	So, what?
	That's 11 years ago, right?
	Yeah.
	It's my math.
	Okay.
	Look at your cheekbone.
	I know.
	Was she?
	I mean, look, it's one photo compared to, you know, Studio lighting.
	She's cuter.
	Oh my God.
	Mid to mid.
	What the fuck, guys?
	Be nice.
	uh You look at the attack.
	Like, you look like you've aged a little bit, but you're not, like, unattractive.
	Oh, what do I want you to say?
	Okay.
	Okay, you can, you can.
	I don't know.
	I think.
	I think you look great.
	Thanks.
	Really?
	What do you think your husband would say?
	Oh, yeah, you guys have been dating for eight years.
	Oh, well.
	I think he would say that I'm more attractive now.
	I don't know.
	I don't know what he would say.
	He's a pretty realistic guy.
	I don't know.
	You think it would cause an argument if he were to tell her you were hot or fifty ago?
	You were hotter eight years ago.
	You think that would be a good thing for your boyfriend to tell you?
	Well, so my husband and I watch this show together and we have discussions about the questions that you ask.
	And so when we first started watching the rate your looks thing, we rated each other.
	Yeah.
	Oh, really?
	Yes.
	What did he give you?
	He gave me, I think, like a 6.5.
	Good for him.
	Yeah.
	Is he watching right now?
	What's up, dude?
	He's actually asleep.
	Let's hit ring call.
	What's up?
	He's actually asleep because he's going to go to work at midnight.
	But he'll watch this when he wakes up.
	But yeah, he's pretty realistic.
	I think he thinks I'm more attractive now.
	Okay.
	I was just like a dorky 20-year-old.
	I wasn't like this cute.
	I was a dork.
	I don't know.
	You know yourself better in that show.
	By the way, just wanted to be clear, like with this whole thing, like I don't, it's not like, oh, you're 32, you're worthless, you're unattractive.
	It's not that.
	And it's not to say that women who are in their 30s, there's absolutely beautiful, attractive women in their 30s, 40s, etc.
	It's not like, oh, once you hit 30, once you hit 40, you're just unattractive.
	No, not at all.
	But it's more so like, okay, well, like, if we're just looking at this, we're zooming out, we're looking at it just kind of objectively.
	Look, were you more attractive at 25 versus 35?
	And aging is a biological reality.
	When you say more attractive too, like you mean strictly physically.
	Because I think a lot of people are incorporating like, oh, well, maybe I will have done this with my career.
	Maybe I will, like, this is my morality.
	I'm more confident in my skin.
	And so I think.
	But here's the thing.
	Even with that, I mean, unless a girl is an absolute mess in her 20s, I don't think people tend to get, I mean, they can, but like a lot of people get jaded as they get older.
	Like me personally.
	Me personally.
	I was much more optimistic.
	I was probably more pleasant and optimistic 10 years ago.
	Now I'm jaded.
	It is what it is.
	People got so mad when Andrew rated me a six on here.
	They were like, how could you, I would divorce him immediately.
	He's such a terrible, abusive, awful person.
	And I was like, I rated myself a five because I was streaming at the same time.
	And I was like, oh, I'd give myself a five.
	And people got mad about that too.
	So who's a 10 to you?
	Who would you say is a 10 to you?
	Probably like Grace Kelly or like Vivian Lee, the actress who played Scarlett and Gone with the Wind.
	She's just her facial symmetry is insane and gorgeous.
	I have a question.
	I'm just a normal Midwestern mom.
	So both of you said you'll be better looking in 10 years?
	Both of you?
	but you also said that you're currently 10 is donated $69 given the societal emphasis on youth and beauty.
	Why do you think many people strive to look younger rather than embracing their natural aging process?
	Is this a rhetorical question or I mean, he kind of answered his own question.
	People strive to look younger because there's an emphasis on youth and beauty.
	Rip Trich and Rare donated $69.
	Rachel, how does it feel to have a beta fat boy husband that has bigger tits than you?
	That's a bag of trash.
	Men don't have tits.
	Pull up his shirt and tell me you're fucking proud of that shit.
	Andrew is super hot, so you're barking up the wrong tree.
	And he does not have tits.
	He was like hunched over on the stool.
	He's gorgeous.
	What would you rate your husband?
	I think he's an eight and a half.
	He thinks that that's insane, but Andrew's a handsome guy.
	He's a handsome guy.
	He's a handsome guy.
	He is.
	He's a handsome guy.
	Wait, so okay.
	You both rated yourselves tens.
	You think you'll both be better looking in 10 years.
	So you're 24, you're 28.
	So at 34, 38.
	How can you possibly be a 10 now if you will be better looking in 10 years time?
	I could still be a 10.
	Has a bit of a bad?
	I could still be a 10.
	It's woman math, Brian.
	I don't get it, though.
	Like, if you're going to be better looking.
	I'm going to be a 10 now and then progress and still be a 10.
	Okay.
	You want me to change my answer?
	Okay, I know I'm a six.
	Don't change your answer.
	Don't know.
	I don't know.
	I just want to rate myself what I want to rate myself.
	I want to go around the table on one last thing on this and then we're going to move on.
	How about 20 years?
	Will you be more physically attractive in 20 years' time?
	So I'll be 44.
	Yeah.
	But the thing is, is black don't crack.
	Oh, I you're yeah.
	Well, black don't crack.
	So I'm gonna age differently than most people.
	30 years?
	I still look good.
	My mom looks amazing.
	Erroneous!
	She dies.
	Erroneous.
	Will you look better in 30 years than you do now?
	Okay, in 30 years, I wouldn't say I look better, but that'll be like you'll be kind of at the end of the peak at 54.
	Yeah.
	I wouldn't be at 20 anymore.
	I'd be at 15.
	So you think like 44, that's like kind of the peak?
	No.
	Oh, when's your peak?
	70.
	All right, okay, that's a troll answer now.
	I don't know what your answer was.
	Better looking in 20 years?
	I said I would try to aim for that, yeah.
	No, but you think you will be better looking in 20 years at the rate I'm taking care of myself, yes.
	So you'll be better looking at 45 than you are now at 25.
	Oh, at 45.
	Oh, sorry, I thought we were saying it's 10 years.
	So 20 years, no, I mean, I think there's 10, but so 10 years, yes, 20 years.
	20 years, I think there's going to be some mileage.
	Okay.
	No.
	Not in 20 years.
	Don't tell me what I want here.
	No, honestly, that's Junior.
	That's being delusional.
	No.
	No.
	Definitely not.
	All right.
	Well, there you have it, folks.
	We are going to do one question, then I'm going to have Maddie sit down for a little bit.
	Do you guys object?
	B-Day girl donated $999.
	Pop champagne.
	All right.
	Opera and happy birthday.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, opera singer, can you do the magic flute song again?
	Again?
	Yeah, really quick.
	Or can she sing the happy birthday song to the guy?
	Turn what down, Nick?
	Maybe not.
	Since he didn't.
	Wait, what audio?
	I was just going to turn down the sound hitting that.
	Where did you turn it down?
	Where are you going to turn it down?
	I don't work for free.
	I don't know if that's going to help, but.
	Okay, fine.
	Yeah, do it.
	We're going to pop champagne.
	Did you do it, Nick?
	Yeah.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Magic flute.
	Boom.
	Um.
	Hey, look at that.
	You got a champagne pop and some opera.
	Mozart.
	Did you turn it class?
	All right, here we go.
	Let's see if I can get it this time.
	All right, boys.
	While we're doing that, I'll just ask a throwaway question really quick while I'm getting this champagne figured out.
	Who's the primary victim?
	Who's the primary victim of war, men or women?
	Starting with you going around the table?
	War?
	Huh?
	Of war.
	Yeah.
	Men?
	Yeah, men are dying.
	men men men men men men all right Rachel, you got any questions for the girls while I get the champagne going?
	Somebody already asked the narcissism question.
	Do you guys think there's any correlation between the amount of kids that are born out of wedlock nowadays and the growth of the welfare state?
	Do you think that those connect at all?
	What was your question again?
	So, like in 1960, I think it was something like 5% of babies in the U.S. were born out of wedlock.
	Now it's something like 40%.
	Do you think that that change in a short period of time, like we're talking 50 years?
	Do you think that had any bearing on the growth of the welfare state?
	Come on.
	Yeah.
	Over that same time period.
	Yes, but I also think there's other factors that go into it.
	Oh, shit.
	Do you need some help?
	People don't really care to be married anyway.
	Can I get a paper towel or something?
	There you go.
	I need a little leverage, okay?
	There we go, I...
	There you go.
	That reaction.
	Cheers.
	Okay, we'll get that going.
	Who's over 21?
	Sorry, guys.
	One day.
	Do I get extra because I'm the oldest?
	You can have mine.
	I don't drink alcohol.
	I'm going to pass Rachel while I drink.
	I don't.
	All right.
	See, that's been my problem, boys.
	I got clammy hands.
	It gives me a headache.
	Do I get to keep it?
	Can I do it cups?
	You don't want to have a cup.
	That's okay.
	Like a memento.
	If it's mixed.
	You can't even find these cups anyway.
	That's what I'm saying.
	We're running out.
	We are running out of breathing.
	I'm going to put it in like a shadow box and keep it for years.
	Oh, wait.
	That's it, I guess.
	Just me and you.
	Are you getting one?
	No, thank you.
	She said it gives her a headache.
	Oh, okay.
	Do you want some?
	Here.
	Jess Gerald donated $69.
	Mrs. Wilson, if there is one book I must read, what is the title?
	It's this one!
	Occult Feminism, The Secret History of Women's Liberation.
	Has everything you need to know in it.
	Cheers to bears?
	Bears.
	To bears.
	For taking one for Battle Street Galactica.
	Also, cheers to whoever it was B-Day Girl.
	Get to drinking and singing.
	Oh, we were going to do happy birthday.
	Okay.
	We'll do the truncated short version of this, right?
	I don't know.
	Do you want to lead us here?
	All right.
	Happy birth.
	GMD Jim donated $69.
	Brian, even though we placed embargoes and froze Japan's bank accounts here before Pearl Harbor, our war with Japan was our only righteous war in last 150 years because of their attack on our soil.
	I would say not even that was.
	I would go back to before World War I, personally.
	Civil War?
	Yeah, I think that.
	Everything from World War I on has had like false flags and shenanigans and fuckery going on, including World War II.
	Yes, exactly.
	Yep.
	Okay, cool.
	So, B-Day Girl.
	Cherry?
	It's my birthday and would love for you all to sing happy birthday to me.
	Okay, to Cherry, Ben George donated $69.
	To your previous discussion, 18-year-old men see women as hot between 18 to 20.
	Men that are 60 see women as hot from 18 to 50.
	The older a man is, the wider range of choice.
	Word.
	Isn't it the case, though?
	I've seen some like a study or a chart that showed that even as men got older, in terms of what they just deemed most physically attractive, not factoring in other things, it was like 20 to 20 to 22, 23 typically was the range of like, hey, who's the most attractive physically?
	I don't know.
	Anyways, happy birthday to you.
	Happy birthday to you.
	Happy birthday, dear Cherry, whatever the fuck your name is.
	Happy birthday to you.
	Cheers.
	Okay, so where were we?
	We were talking.
	Oh, do you object to a man caring about a woman's body count?
	Do you object to that?
	I would understand why someone would care, but that's all I'm going to say about it.
	Tell us how you really feel.
	Say with your chest.
	Yeah.
	I just feel like if men can have high body counts, why can't women?
	If that was their choice.
	I have so many thoughts, but I'll wait on them.
	Okay.
	Yeah, we'll get everybody's answers.
	And so for you, you would object to a man caring about a woman's body count.
	Yeah, that could be the same.
	Is he insecure?
	Why does he care?
	Blank Ken donated $69.
	So Andrew's wife lifts weights and he doesn't.
	Interesting lol.
	She's just as aggressive too.
	Queen Pick Me.
	This is not a dating pod.
	This is a men's rights and grievance pod.
	You became what you hate.
	I'm not a men's rights advocate.
	Yeah, that's me.
	Get it right, Ken.
	We talk about dating.
	Look, we're talking about body count right now.
	Do you object to men caring about a woman's body count?
	I just don't personally see why it matters, but I mean, you do you.
	Okay.
	Sam Light Matt said, I can understand why, but I also think that it should not be a thing.
	What should not be a thing?
	A man caring about a woman's body count.
	Okay.
	No, men should care and they should know your body count before they do anything with you.
	No, I don't object.
	I think at like a certain like, I think they should care like at a certain point, but like, I don't think it should be like a huge deal.
	It shouldn't be a huge deal.
	Yeah.
	Or it depends like how much it is, maybe.
	But I find that interesting seeing as like you're a virgin, you don't really have any skin in the game when it comes to this.
	Like, you don't have a body count to be judged by.
	I suppose a man could judge you for not having a body count, although I think that's exceedingly rare.
	Perhaps the only men that would judge you are the ones who are desirous of just having quick, immediate sex with you, and they would perhaps deem it unlikely to have quick sex with you, given that you're a virgin.
	I mean, yeah, I really don't have much of an opinion, I guess.
	But like, if I had to say something, you know.
	Like, would you find, like, you, despite, like, being a virgin yourself, would you find it unappealing if a guy was like, I wouldn't date a girl who has a body count of more than three?
	Um, yeah.
	Really?
	Even though you yourself are a virgin?
	That's interesting.
	United States donated $69.
	Brian, please ask the panel who voted for our president and chief Joe Biden in 2020.
	Okay, I'll come back to that in a sec.
	So wait, why?
	Like, if a guy was like, I don't want to date a girl who has a body count more than five, you object to that.
	Oh, I mean, like, it's up to him.
	If he doesn't want to date, that's his own choice.
	Right, but you would be like, I mean, I don't feel a type of way about it.
	Because, I mean, I guess we all have, in our minds, we all have a number that we think is like, like, kind of extreme or not.
	And to me, I don't think five is like that crazy, but like, I mean, everyone has a different opinion.
	So, like, if they think five is too much, like, that's their thing.
	So, like, I guess I wouldn't object that much.
	Like, they, I, you know.
	Would you date a guy who didn't want to date a woman who had a body count of over ten?
	Yeah.
	Over five?
	Or do you think then he's getting into like judgy territory and you wouldn't want to date a guy like that?
	Um, yeah, I think um I don't, yeah, I don't think I would date that.
	So you would not date a guy who would not date a woman with a body count of over five.
	Ben George donated $69.
	Happy birthday, Cherry.
	Brian, give her nine of the 69.
	Ello El Eu Praley won't.
	I don't get it.
	Give her.
	Is that like.
	So do you?
	Okay, thank you, Ben George.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, well, he means because you're not a fan of, you know, that thing.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Brian.
	Yeah, sorry, it's your birth.
	Yeah, even if it's your birthday, I'm not in that shit.
	Don't give hit at all?
	I don't, huh?
	You don't give hit at all?
	Nope.
	Dang.
	I want her to.
	Okay, we'll get into it.
	I want her to.
	You give him head?
	We are not.
	You thought we were No, she's married to Andrew Wilson, bruv He's a bride.
	Yeah, I'm Brian.
	This is my homie.
	She's my Caucasian.
	Don't get it twisted.
	She is my Caucasian, but she's married to Andrew Wilson.
	Put some respect.
	Put some respect on the name.
	Put some respect on the name.
	I'm sorry.
	Show me a bow.
	I need a bow now.
	Oh, my God.
	Show me.
	Apology bow.
	I need an apology bow.
	Let's see it.
	You can do it seated.
	Go ahead.
	I'm generous.
	I'm nice.
	Apology bow.
	Go ahead.
	I can just give you an apology.
	I'm sorry.
	I was deeply offended.
	This whole time I thought you two were married.
	No.
	Put some respect.
	Put some respect on Andrew.
	Put some respect on Andrew Wilson's name.
	I'm sorry, Andrew Wilson.
	I want you to look into this camera and apologize to Andrew Wilson.
	I'm sorry, Andrew Wilson.
	Thank you.
	I forgive you.
	She is my Caucasian, though.
	It's true.
	She's my Caucasian.
	My husband is usually half the time sitting in the seat.
	He's here frequently.
	Yeah.
	No, okay, look, I'll answer your thing really quickly.
	Okay.
	So, I absolutely care about my partner's sexual pleasure.
	Preferably, I make her come before I come multiple times if possible.
	But I just, that specifically, that specific sexual act, not really my thing.
	We could use hands.
	Shit, we can even use toys.
	I'd rather use hands.
	There's other ways.
	Look, sometimes the girl can come from intercourse.
	That works too.
	I want her to come first, preferably multiple times.
	That's my goal.
	I care about her pleasure.
	Just sexual boundary.
	Don't really like to do it.
	Did you have a bad experience?
	No, not really.
	Just, I don't know.
	I got neck problems.
	Okay.
	That's my cop-out.
	That's my cop-out.
	I do actually have neck problems.
	Look, I got fucking.
	I got ice attacks right here.
	No, please.
	Probably shown.
	Sorry, Madison.
	Ben George, do you like that?
	She's got an ice pack.
	Give her nine bucks of the 69 bucks.
	That's what I think.
	Her birthday, where is your mind?
	Come on, Ben George.
	It was you who was all being sus with the six and the nine and the.
	Okay, thank you, Ben.
	Thank you, dude.
	Appreciate it.
	How did we get into that, though?
	Because you had a question.
	Oh, yeah.
	And it was literally the 69, and it was the you don't nine.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So that's true, yeah.
	Not mine.
	Wait, but I have to ask.
	You're a labia guy.
	Right.
	You're huge.
	You just want to look at it?
	Yeah.
	You just like to look at it.
	You appreciate it from a distance.
	Well, big labia matter.
	Hashtag big labia matter.
	Yeah, this is my nonprofit movement, but yeah, I'm a fan.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, like, you can appreciate it, like, in other ways, I guess.
	No, sure.
	Visually, but also penally.
	Is it a sensory thing?
	Penally.
	I enjoy it penally.
	Sure, I mean, I heard the other stuff you said you like to do, and I respect that.
	That's fair.
	I'm not judging.
	I'm just curious what it is.
	Yeah.
	What do you mean?
	Is it like you're curious, Rachel?
	I don't get it.
	It feels like.
	No, what do you mean?
	Curious about what?
	Like, is labia just a bit?
	Like, where did he get it?
	The smell.
	Rachel, don't even.
	Don't put those thoughts in my head, Rachel.
	Also, what is the smell?
	I want to know.
	I want to know where women are.
	I feel like it's kind of graphic to articulate why I like large labia.
	You're willing.
	I'm willing to admit it.
	You're willing to admit it, though.
	That's true.
	So we're already.
	I actually, I only date women with large labia.
	You asked on the first date.
	Doubling down.
	How do you cry that?
	But how do you know?
	But how do you know after this?
	First, I don't ask, oh, so what do you like to do for fun?
	I don't ask, you know, what's important to you.
	He's like, how do you feel about your values?
	So, I'm a dating app, that's the first thing you ask.
	I'm correct.
	Very early on.
	I respect that.
	What's the status of the lady?
	How often does that work?
	65% of the time, it works every time.
	That's why you still sing call.
	I'm kidding.
	I will date.
	I will date women with innies.
	So there's Audis, there's Audis and Innies.
	I will.
	Look, y'all women have penis-sized preferences.
	No, no, I'm not judging.
	Y'all want a big date?
	I want big labia.
	What's up?
	No, nothing wrong.
	Just curious.
	I'm just, y'all have preferences.
	Men are allowed to have preferences.
	I'm just the only one.
	I'm the spearhead of this movement.
	I'm a trailbrazer, trailblazer, groundbreaker.
	Sorry, I'm not lightweight.
	I don't drink, so I'm already drunk.
	I'm the trailblazer of this movement.
	I want to help women.
	I want to be, I'm a feminist.
	This actually is a feminist point about the labyrinth.
	You're a feminist.
	Absolutely.
	I'm a feminist.
	I'm a feminist through and through.
	Big labia.
	You got those like labia murals on the wall kind of thing.
	You got a lot of George O. key paintings.
	It's true.
	It is true.
	But I will say, look, I will say, I don't even know where I was going.
	It's art.
	No, I'll tell you what.
	You know what?
	I'm actually a nice guy, though.
	I will give a little leeway on the body count thing.
	You know, like, if you have an innie, but you can have double the body count.
	But what?
	If you have an Audi.
	Wow.
	That's the bro math.
	A compromise.
	So if she has like an Audi, she's a little, like, in terms of the threshold for like would date, would not date, double the body count is acceptable if she has an Audi.
	Okay, can I also ask, does body count matter like over a period of time?
	Like say they had like a wild like younger year.
	Yeah, that's a bad thing.
	But like, okay, but say it's been five years since they've done anything like that.
	Does that help?
	I got something for you.
	Oh, just give me a rocks.
	Abdul?
	Yeah, get the rocks.
	Get the rocks.
	Sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	But yeah, it's just to the monastery.
	Sorry, nunnery.
	To the nunnery.
	You must go.
	Just curious.
	Just curious.
	To the nunnery.
	You must go.
	Look.
	I'm just saying.
	Oh, why?
	You guys were asking why I like the labia thing?
	I don't know.
	No, we were wondering what's going on.
	We'll just.
	You really want to know, Rachel?
	I'm a curious.
	You're curious about it.
	It's interesting to me, like a guy who's super adverse to that.
	Like, why?
	Wait, like the guys who had averse.
	The guys who were like, I ain't going down there.
	Like, oh, to the.
	I'm just curious, like, what about it?
	Oh, I thought, oh, okay.
	I thought you were talking about.
	Okay.
	Well, I mean, so, okay, there's a couple things, right?
	Like, you can't, you definitely can't be doing this.
	This is my advice to guys who are inclined to do it.
	You can't do it with, like, you're just meeting the girl because you haven't vetted her properly.
	You know what I mean?
	So, like, yeah, if she's like dating other dudes, sleeping with other dudes, you can't, you can't do it.
	It could linger.
	It lingers a couple days, you know.
	It could linger if the guy's blasting, hasn't been wearing a rubber.
	It lingers.
	Okay.
	Right?
	Ladies, you don't.
	That I understand.
	You have morning sex.
	But like whatever.
	Afternoon.
	Look at your wife that you've got.
	Five years.
	She's only been with you for like a year.
	She could be my wife and a virgin.
	I still ain't.
	So what is it then?
	Like, take out the whole.
	I got neck problems.
	She skettles her ugly.
	You don't have to do anything.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, it's too, that's too dominant in the bedroom.
	She can't.
	Okay.
	No, I can't.
	She can't.
	No, she can't.
	No, she's not going to sit on my face.
	Okay.
	It's way too dumb then.
	Way too dumb.
	Sorry.
	Okay, I think I've heard.
	I feel like we haven't learned anything, but that's okay.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	You haven't learned anything else.
	I like learned about why you like or well.
	Like, sorry.
	Wait, there's two different questions here.
	There's the labia thing, and then there's the oral sex thing.
	There's two different things.
	What's your question?
	Go ahead.
	To the very religious woman, do you guys the D?
	That, but also get eaten.
	Is that a thing that you guys do?
	LDS?
	I mean.
	Don't have to ask if you want us to ask.
	I don't know that my husband would want me to answer, so I'll just, all I'll say is we have a lot of fun together.
	Period.
	Okay, good.
	We have a lot of fun together.
	Yeah, I mean, that's.
	I would echo that.
	I would say that it's.
	I'm not going to speak details, but you enjoy your time together.
	Oh, yeah, we enjoy our time.
	That's our county.
	Period.
	Love that.
	But that's, I think that people think that if you're religious and married, that it's like stuffy and missionary.
	That's why I'm asking.
	No, it's definitely not just missionary.
	That's what I'm asking.
	Once you're married, I feel like it's a go.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Period.
	Okay.
	That's.
	And it's even better because you're married to them.
	Yeah.
	I feel like.
	I feel like that's one of the main benefits of it, to be honest.
	The one better be the one.
	Yeah.
	I have a question for you.
	So being a virgin, and you know, we're talking about men having objection to body count.
	Would you, and you don't have to answer if you're not comfortable, would you feel comfortable losing your virginity to a guy who had a body count of 20 or 50?
	Or do you care about the guy's body count that takes your virginity?
	I mean, if we're in a relationship and I feel comfortable with him, I wouldn't care.
	Okay, so he could have slept with 100%.
	Like 50 women before you?
	I mean, I have a limit as well, but like 20, I'm like, okay, but I got it.
	So what's your limit?
	Like, hands down.
	This is a really interesting differential here between men and women, though.
	And Rachel, maybe you can weigh in on this.
	Is even the virgin woman has no objections to dating a guy who has a high body count, sleeping with a guy who has a high body count.
	Yeah, I mean, I disagree, but.
	Well, that's what I was going to say: is like morally and ethically, from my Christian worldview, ideally both people are very virtuous as far as sex and hopefully both virgins when they're married.
	That'd be great.
	That'd be the ideal.
	That's what we want.
	But in the real world, we run into this problem where women don't care about men's body count.
	In fact, a woman, if there's like a 25-year-old guy who's a virgin, they're like, what's wrong with you?
	Right?
	They almost brown.
	They're like, yeah, they're like they've been doing.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Whereas we see guys who can rack up a high body count as desirable and successful sexually.
	Like we see other women want them.
	So we want them.
	Even us like good Christian virtuous girls tend to like the charismatic guys who all the other women want.
	It's just kind of how things work.
	So when people get pressed about it and they're like, well, why can't, you know, we should have the same standard for both.
	I'm like, well, that would be fine if women held men to that standard, but they don't.
	I mean, I kind of do.
	I mean, if I see a guy with like a high body count, I don't see it as like, oh, you know, like STDs or whatever.
	I mean, I would hope they're being safe, you know.
	But I mean, I know, I know.
	But, you know, I look at it more as an, okay, they're probably a player, and they're probably not someone who's going to treat me right.
	Yeah.
	That's the big thing I'm looking at.
	But you said you objected to them caring about your body count.
	So why are you?
	I'm more like, it's just, it's not personally for me.
	Like, I don't care.
	Like, I mean, that's why I kind of brought up the whole, like, what if they messed around a lot in younger years, but then say five years later, they're not really doing that anymore.
	And because, like, I care more about the personality it brings forward than I care about, like, um.
	So, you don't think that, like, say someone was super sexually promiscuous in their 20s and then they had that five-year break and they're like 31 and they're like, I'm better now.
	You don't think that that sexual promiscuity would have an effect on them later on in life?
	I think if they're bullet donated $69 to find responses.
	Orders from the Inquisitor.
	Miss Wilson is hereby requested to bring home a sleeve of the blue-white cups.
	The Inquisitor sends his compliments.
	The Crucible laughed at Brian Sneeze.
	Merch to follow.
	Sneeze merch?
	Sneeze merch.
	It's coming.
	Sneeze is definitely up.
	It's coming.
	Let's see.
	Wait, hold on.
	They only had like a few of these.
	I don't know if they even have more because I guess we're almost out.
	They're saying they don't make them anymore.
	They like, here's the crazy thing.
	So I say that, and then people will be like, oh, look, I found it online.
	But these, like, it's these like small-scale, like, not Amazon retailers.
	They don't actually, like, yes, they list them, but if you contact them, it's out of stock.
	They don't actually have them in stock.
	It's like these shitty third-party websites.
	You literally cannot find these cups.
	Like, trust me, I've even ordered them from Amazon, and they'll send me the wrong cup design.
	Like this, I want the solo jazz.
	They don't sell that shit.
	Is that what it's called?
	Solo jazz.
	The design is called solo jazz.
	I even contacted Dart.
	I think it's Dart or Solo, the manufacturer.
	They won't print it.
	They won't even print.
	I was like, bro, I'll buy a fucking case of.
	I'll buy 5,000 cups from you.
	They're like, bro, you got to buy 50,000 cups.
	I'm like, shit, I can't.
	I'm not going to stockpile 50,000 cups.
	That's a lot.
	We did have a chat that came through.
	We're going to go around the table on that, and then we'll come back to body count.
	United States donated $69.
	Brian, please ask the panel who voted for our president and chief Joe Biden in 2020.
	Did anybody here vote for Joe Biden in 2020?
	No.
	Yes, but that's complicated.
	No.
	I didn't vote.
	Yeah, you guys were not of age.
	Okay.
	Wait, going back to body count, didn't get your answer on this?
	I would not be objective to them caring.
	Okay.
	And did you?
	No, I don't really care.
	I'm going to get up for a sec.
	Maddie has a question for you.
	Then we're going to do bumble.
	Then we'll do the row segment.
	Matt, if you want to take a seat, ask this question.
	And then, yeah.
	I'm just waiting for you to go.
	Okay, we ask this every show, but what is everybody's body count?
	That's, yeah, I'm not saying that.
	You can give like a range if you don't want to give the exact number.
	Nope.
	I don't care.
	Five.
	Thank you for sharing.
	Yeah, I'm not sharing.
	Range?
	No range?
	You can say like under 10.
	I thought it didn't matter.
	I thought it did matter.
	Listen, this table feels very judgy.
	I'm not going to lie to you.
	And so does this chat.
	I'm all set.
	One.
	Period.
	Based.
	Out of respect for my husband, I'm not going to share.
	Your zero.
	One, but now I'm waiting.
	Oh, really?
	So now you're waiting for marriage to have.
	Yeah.
	Oh, nice.
	Same with the husband thing, but it's very low.
	It's like one hand.
	Yeah, very low.
	Cool.
	Okay, now we're going to do the fun bumble segment.
	So each of you get 20 swipes and we're gonna go through.
	And you just have to say yes or no if you would go on a date with the guy.
	But first we have to get like your age range.
	So like what would what's your dating age range?
	My dating age range output 27 to 35.
	Do you hear that, Nick?
	Yep.
	Okay.
	So yeah, 20 swipes, just say yes or no.
	Yeah.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	No.
	Yeah.
	He goes fishing.
	No.
	No, he's too pretty.
	Too pretty.
	I hear that a lot.
	No.
	Oh, what?
	What?
	Very confused.
	I would swipe yes, though, just to ask him about the picture.
	Because if I'm on here, I'm bored.
	Okay.
	You meet people in real life.
	Okay, no.
	No.
	His dog's cute, though.
	I like his arms, yeah.
	No.
	Duck lips with them.
	No. No. No.
	Has it been 20 yet?
	I feel like I said no to everybody.
	We're going to do an extra five.
	Okay.
	You want to go until you finally say yes.
	Take a minute.
	No.
	And you got kids.
	No.
	No.
	He looks like.
	What's that one?
	No.
	He sings though.
	James David.
	Yeah, James.
	Like, who is it?
	No, no, no, no.
	Five more.
	No.
	I don't think she's.
	No.
	There's not one black man in this.
	Exactly.
	Do you guys have like, do you have like a racial preference?
	Yeah, that's a problem, huh?
	Do you have like a racial preference?
	Like, do you date white guys?
	I don't date white men.
	They just, you don't understand what I've gone through.
	So I need.
	Yeah.
	Okay, fair enough.
	Yeah.
	We'll do we'll we'll just move on.
	We'll do your age range, dating age range.
	I'm 22 to 30.
	I don't know who I'm looking at.
	No.
	I know which one.
	No.
	No. No.
	I was like, double whammy.
	No.
	No.
	Who?
	Dua Lipa?
	Yeah, it's gonna be a little bit of a.
	Maybe?
	Yeah.
	Wait, are you saying yes to Dua Lipa?
	I mean, yeah.
	But like to the guy.
	But to the guy.
	I mean yes, yes, yes.
	We should have put women up here.
	No.
	We could do women.
	No.
	Should we put up like 10 women and then see?
	Yeah, maybe is it like an easy?
	Yeah, I would do other pixels.
	Ben George donated $69.
	Sorry for the misunderstanding.
	I never meant any ill will toward anyone.
	Sometimes text can be misinterpreted.
	I don't know which question.
	Yeah, I don't think you upset anybody, Ben George.
	You were cool.
	About what?
	Yeah, 6'9.
	Ready?
	You?
	No, no, no, no.
	Yikes.
	I forgot I knew what sorry.
	On the shirt.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Fine.
	No.
	Oh.
	Damn, we were with that.
	Oh.
	Yes.
	Period.
	No, no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah.
	No.
	Alright.
	Your dating age range?
	28 through.
	38.
	28 through 38, Nick, for the next one.
	You only got through just one?
	Or a bunch of chats came through?
	Yeah, I checked it.
	No.
	No.
	I was like, kiddie.
	No.
	Alright.
	No.
	No.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Nope.
	Nope.
	Really?
	Nope.
	You guys are saying no to some that I'm like, dermatop.
	He looks like he told him that a syringe.
	Oh my god.
	I was gonna say you a word.
	Yeah, you can do your classic surgery for you.
	That's totally a purposeful picture.
	Yeah.
	No.
	You and a bomber.
	No.
	Half-ish.
	Half-ish, no.
	Okay, definitely.
	Half-ish, no.
	Half-ish, no.
	What the fuck?
	Interesting.
	No, no, no, no.
	What?
	He looks glaring.
	I don't think we can.
	Oh!
	That's profile.
	Do you want to skip because you're married?
	Yeah, I'll skip.
	I mean, that's fun.
	If you guys want me to do it, I'll do it, but I don't.
	Do you?
	Up to you.
	Yeah, we'll do it for fun.
	If you want to.
	What's your age range?
	I'd probably say like 25 to 35.
	Actually, 30 or like let's do 20.
	Yeah, 25 to 35, sorry.
	Yep, that's good.
	Um, no.
	No.
	Ugh.
	Sure.
	No. No. No.
	Sure.
	No.
	Sure.
	Sure.
	No.
	What on earth?
	no no no no no no no did you want to do this or pass I guess I can.
	Age range?
	Um, 35 to 45.
	Are most of you guys picking dudes that are a little older?
	Seems like, yeah no no no no no no no no, no.
	Yeah no no, no no.
	no damn girl, I would have said yes to the dude with the lobster because he cooks lobster.
	Yeah, see who gets.
	okay you're adrian um 18 to 22 no no no no no no
	Yeah, I can't.
	No. No. No.
	Yeah.
	No. No. No.
	I mean, the younger one, yeah.
	No.
	Yeah.
	No. No. No.
	What?
	No.
	Is that a man?
	I don't know.
	No.
	Sandler, why do?
	Why do these people have, like Adam Sandler, Dua Lipa in their photos?
	They want you to think they're cool, right?
	So yeah, that's not your friend.
	No, do like Adam Sandler.
	Did you want to do this one, Jade?
	Okay, 18 to 21 18, 21.
	I can't do that exactly, but it's close, so somewhere with it, all right.
	So no, here's me at the snow getting my hair brush.
	No, the party bus come on.
	No, I can't see nobody's at BMW.
	No, those arms low.
	No uh no no no, no.
	Is that 20?
	We need five more.
	Is that all no's?
	Yeah, we'll try to do five more.
	We'll do ten more okay yeah, ten until we go.
	oh whoa what was that scary it just popped up at the end maybe yes yeah no okay No, are we?
	We gotta yes.
	Did you want to pass with Miss Rachel?
	Yeah, I'll pass.
	Okay.
	Do you have like a racial preference?
	I guess we'll go around the whole entire table.
	Racial preference.
	If so, what?
	Race?
	Yeah, I like black men.
	I wouldn't be opposed to trying to date someone outside of my race, but they couldn't be white.
	Wait, did you say yes to a white guy?
	I did.
	He was fishing.
	You know, we could go on a date.
	Wait, they could be white or they could not be white.
	They couldn't because I just feel like it would just be hard to incorporate them into my family.
	And then I feel like I can't speak for everybody's families, but I just don't know how their family would react to me.
	Were your two boyfriends?
	Were they white or black?
	They were black.
	Okay.
	Wait, would you date, like, Latino men?
	I've never, I've actually never have, but I would.
	Would you?
	Yeah, I would.
	So why would you date those other racial groups, but not specifically, you were specifically excluding white men?
	Yes, because I went to a predominantly white school, K through 12, and I just endured like different disrespectful things, racial slurs and stuff like that.
	And then a lot of white men that get black girlfriends tend to like think that they can, they have the N-word pass and stuff like that.
	Like, I'm not with that.
	If you're going to be white, be white, you're not black.
	I mean, consider he's like a good white man, not racist.
	I feel like love is a dude.
	Do you think given the problems you've had dating historically, maybe you would not have those same problems with a white guy?
	I feel like I could still have the same problems with any race that I dated, to be honest.
	Well, the statistics don't really agree with that, but I don't know if we want to get into that.
	I'm just saying, like.
	I mean, but also, I don't know.
	And we could get into it if you wanted to, but I just don't.
	I don't know if Brian wants to.
	It's probably TOS, but.
	Yeah, it might be.
	Would you, like, consider dating a white man or just, like, not?
	I would consider dating the right white man.
	Like, if we vibed and he actually ended up being somebody that I vetted properly, then, yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	We'll go around the table with the racial preference question.
	Don't really have a preference for the most part.
	Okay.
	I don't have a preference.
	I just want to speak to what she was just saying, though.
	How you were saying, you know, because of the situation she's dealt with, I dealt with a white man and I got bit in the face.
	So, you know what I'm saying?
	Do you think that a white man?
	Anything could happen with anybody.
	And statistically, serial killers.
	Wait, what?
	White men are statistically serial killers who are going to tie you up in the basement.
	I think that's actually, no, I'm saying like statistically speaking, the people that do that the most are white men.
	I think that's been debunked.
	Maybe we need to Google it, but I believe that that's actually not true.
	I don't know.
	It's just that the high-profile ones that they put all up in the media are.
	Also, does that have anything to do with that?
	If a black man did that, they would definitely have to do that.
	Well, I mean, if we want to talk about like rates of imprisonment, rates of domestic violence, rates of sticking around, you know, to raise your kids and things like that.
	My point in saying what I said was just to point out that it could be any racial.
	Sure, of course.
	There's bad people in everywhere.
	I don't know stats, but just.
	Yeah.
	Wait, so, wait, we didn't really.
	I don't have a preference.
	Oh, okay.
	My preference is white.
	My husband is white.
	I don't have any preferences.
	No preference.
	I think mine is Asians.
	I prefer white guys.
	Mary, what about you?
	Ditto.
	You prefer white guys?
	Second that, yeah.
	Would you date an Asian guy in Madison?
	I would.
	I agree.
	Just because I've never dated an Asian guy or like I found them attractive before, but just because I haven't dated anyone doesn't mean I'm closed off to it.
	And I'm never going to date anyone else for the rest of my life besides my boyfriend.
	Period.
	So yeah, that's good.
	brian's coming back welcome back uh we're uh one Before we get into the roast section, a couple questions here.
	Can you be, since we're on the topic, can you be racist towards white people?
	I think you could be racist towards it.
	I think you could be racist towards anybody.
	Yeah.
	I mean, yeah, no, anybody.
	Mm-hmm.
	It's...
	What was that?
	I get why, though, why you would say that.
	Tell us how you really feel.
	I think, yes.
	Let me just say that.
	Yes, you can be racist.
	However, white is the majority.
	Nickelodeon donated $69.
	Ladies, explain who pays for the following dinners.
	One, woman invites girlfriends her to be day dinner.
	Two, woman invites girlfriends and one guy friend.
	Three, BF takes GF and her friends out.
	who pays okay well if if a woman invites her girlfriends to her birthday dinner i feel like if if you want other people to pay for your dinner just i say that but i feel like you shouldn't have to pay for anything on your birthday One.
	Two, I don't know what the second question or the third one was either.
	But yeah, that's my opinion.
	I got it.
	Nickelodeon, I'm sorry, I got to keep it's like you're asking three questions here.
	They're not even going to be able to remember the three different scenarios.
	I'm going to have to limit it to just one.
	Explain who pays for the following dinners.
	Woman invites girlfriend and woman invites girlfriends to her B-Day part dinner.
	Friends.
	Because everybody can pitch in to me.
	He's donated $69.
	Women, if a man completely provided for you, what value and qualities would you bring to the table as his woman?
	That's a good one.
	Before we actually, we'll get to that one.
	I'll come back to Nickelodeon.
	If a man completely provided for you, what value and qualities would you bring to the table?
	Oh, this is a question.
	Okay, we're doing that.
	Yeah.
	I would take care of the house.
	I would make sure that food is prepared and clean up everything.
	Try to take care of him emotionally.
	And yeah.
	That's pretty much it, really.
	Yeah, no, I mean, if he was doing like all that work, I mean, I would probably, you know, do the cooking, do the cleaning, et cetera.
	I think there's a fair trade.
	Like, you know, if I was in that position as like doing like all the job stuff, then I would expect more housework.
	But it's that kind of fair trade.
	That's it.
	Agreed.
	Just nurture emotionally, take care of the home.
	Do what a woman does.
	I'd fulfill my wife as or fulfill my role as a wife and mother.
	Yeah, I would take care of the house and potential kids, and I'd also make sure that he comes home to like a peaceful house and he doesn't have to.
	I don't want to add more stress to him.
	I mean, I do want to work, but if I don't and he does end up providing for everything, then I would also like take care of stuff.
	Like at the house.
	Yeah, I would.
	I would be, I would cook for him, clean the house.
	Also, like other qualities, like loyalty, if he doesn't want me to see other men, like even if they're my friends, then I would cut them off, especially if it makes them uncomfortable.
	Because he's, I would say that he should be the priority.
	Would you be submissive?
	What do you mean?
	What do you mean?
	Like, would I bow to him?
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I mean, if I respect him and, like, we're married and he's providing, yeah.
	I have a good submission follow-up question.
	But for me, like, this isn't, this is the case, right?
	Andrew has provided and taken care of everything for the last, you know, decade and a half.
	You get food, you get sex, you don't have to do any housework.
	My most notorious tweet is when I said that Andrew doesn't do housework and like a million people went nuts and freaked out because he doesn't do housework.
	Even though he works full time and I stay home, raise your kids, and you just don't give the man trouble.
	Just don't give him any shit.
	Nice.
	Yeah.
	And then we were going to go to Nickelodeon's question.
	Who pays for the following dinners?
	Man, I appreciate you sending this in, but you've asked essentially three different questions.
	I know it kind of destroys a little bit the purpose of your question, but who pays when a woman invites girlfriends to her birthday dinner?
	I think they all just split it.
	Yeah, you go to yourself.
	I've never been to one where they didn't split.
	Okay.
	Wait, how about just what about like collectively, woman invites girlfriends and one guy friend?
	Still split?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Boyfriend takes girlfriend and her friends out.
	Yeah.
	Boyfriend shouldn't have to be and my friends.
	There's this video where a woman, she's dating a guy, they've been together for a year, and trying to remember the details, she brought along like 11 of her girlfriends.
	That's crazy.
	So in that situation, would you still expect him to pay though?
	No.
	No, absolutely not.
	One friend, fine.
	One friend, fine.
	Yeah.
	From my circle, Kylo, what do you think he's responsible for?
	What would I change?
	The friend?
	For her birthday, for your girlfriend's birthday?
	It's her birthday.
	Yeah, but if the friend's going to be a little bit more than that, you just take her out then.
	But if you're taking her and her girlfriend out, then why would I take her girl?
	Third wheel, a fucking friend?
	Okay, awkward here.
	I have a question.
	So, for everybody around the table, you're married and your husband, there's an election coming up.
	Your husband's going to vote one way, and you want to vote the other way, but your husband says, no, I want you to vote what I'm voting.
	Would you do it?
	I don't vote for precedents.
	I only vote on propositions.
	Okay, well, on the proposition, you want to vote yes, and he wants you to vote no.
	Are you going to defer to him?
	Are you going to vote how you want?
	I think I would just vote how I wanted.
	I think that depends.
	I mean, we can have a conversation about it, you know.
	Well, let's just say that you don't really agree.
	Like, it's a proposition or a president or whatever it is.
	You're like, no, I really feel this way.
	And he's like, well, I feel this way.
	I mean, again, hard to say without knowing the context.
	But all things considered, you know, I'm going to respect our differences.
	and I'd like him to respect my differences if that really comes down to it.
	Stewie Brown, thank you for the gifted 20 subs on Twitch, man.
	You're a legend.
	Thank you.
	Actually, really quick, let's do that.
	Guys, twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow and a prime sub.
	If you have one, guys, drop us a follow and a prime sub.
	If you have one.
	Oh my God, guys, it's been 30 minutes.
	Is our Twitch bugged?
	It's been 30 minutes since we got a prime.
	Guys, see if we, if there's a prime.
	Yo, Guatama, thank you for the five sub gifts.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Did you want to continue on with the?
	Yeah, just like if you and your husband had a disagreement on something you were gonna vote on, are you going to go with what he wants you to vote on?
	Or are you going to vote how you want to vote once you're in the booth?
	Yeah, I definitely think that I would listen to my husband's counsel and take into his, like take into consideration his knowledge and why he's choosing that.
	And at the end of the day, if it's for a righteous purpose, I would definitely go with my husband's.
	I do a little bit of research with political things, but my husband does a lot more than I do, and he pays attention.
	He has a pulse on it more than I do.
	So I would definitely trust what he has to say.
	I feel like you guys are all just being really nice now.
	No.
	Do you think they're just saying stuff to be nice and not like fight with me?
	No.
	No, no, no.
	Okay.
	Okay, good.
	I mean, I would hear him out, and I'd want him to hear me out.
	But I feel like I tend to not know much about politics.
	So if he seems to know more about it, and I'll do my own research after if it's a big deal, it's a big disagreement.
	And then I'd vote depending on that.
	But if I just do my own research, I don't agree, I'd vote on what I would think is right.
	Okay.
	I'm really not sure.
	I don't, I'm not that big.
	I don't know much about politics either.
	But, and we're also, we have the same views on it too.
	So I'm not sure what, I don't think he would ever force me to change it because we have the same.
	But if we didn't just, if we disagreed on something, then I would also want to listen to him and then do my own research and see.
	Okay.
	I think something else that this makes me think of is how women tend to be a lot more emotional.
	And we've talked about this.
	And I think that sometimes they make decisions, especially in the political light, that are based off of emotion.
	And it's generally not good.
	And so I do think that that is why the patriarchy is in existence.
	Yeah, I think so too.
	Women are very easily propagandized.
	I always say that's like the bad news is women are easily propagandized.
	But the good news is that women are easily propagandized.
	So we can like push it back the other direction.
	But yeah, they tend to, like, if you look at women's voting patterns, it tends to be like, oh, I want to take care of everyone.
	I want to be nice.
	Women, do you consider yourself to be feminine?
	And if you are, who taught you to be feminine?
	Going around the table really quick, do you consider yourself to be feminine?
	Sometimes.
	Yeah.
	Oh, we are feminine?
	Like, I'm a feminine person?
	Yeah, like, are you feminine?
	Do you present as a feminine?
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	Yes.
	I'm actually kind of a tomboy, but I'm very, like, motherly.
	So I have like a feminine side and I have like a tomboyish side.
	Did you want to continue with your point?
	I think you were going back on something or?
	No, I was just saying, like, when you look at female voting patterns, it tends to be like women will not vote for someone who's bald.
	Women will not vote for someone who's short.
	Women will not vote for someone who's not tan.
	Like, when they look at women's voting patterns, it tends to be based on all kinds of other things, whereas men are more like about policy and logic and things like that.
	I think if women have had a personal issue with a policy too, they're more willing to vote that way instead of looking at the greater good for society.
	Right.
	And that's like an issue.
	Yeah.
	Women do personalize everything.
	Yeah.
	They're not very good at abstract thinking.
	You said they're like, you're not a woman.
	Like, we.
	Well, I gotta say men and women and talk about them and them, but I do think I'm a little bit abnormally rational in some ways, but I'm still a woman.
	I'm still a woman.
	I mean, don't we all like to think we're a little bit better than others?
	I don't think I'm better.
	It's not saying that.
	Well, like my husband always says that one of the reasons he picked me is because I tend to be more rational and logical than most women he's dated, who tended to be highly emotional.
	Like he knows he can sit me down and reason with me and then I'll be able to separate the personal from the political and things like that.
	Okay.
	Ken says, did we read this one or?
	No.
	Can I have you read this one?
	Oh, yeah.
	Good evening, Mrs. Wilson.
	I just purchased your book, Occult Feminism.
	I would recommend all the women present tonight to buy and read the book.
	It will give you a new perspective about feminism.
	Mr. Wilson shall buy more gods to protect his family.
	God bless America.
	Merci Buku, Ken.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Thanks, Ken.
	All the way up there in Canada.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	So, guys, we're going to get into the chaos row section.
	The TTS has been lowered.
	Let me re-trigger the one that did come through.
	Double agent donated $25.
	Around the table, who do you choose?
	Dating a man you have good sex with, who I sovereweight, who treats you like gold?
	Or dating a hot model, malignant, narcissist man who is bad in bed and is rich?
	Which do you think?
	Twitch doodle donated $25.
	If you're sending a question, it's going to be rapid fire with the TTS.
	I don't want to lose track of you, Lol.
	First guy or second guy to that original question.
	The first guy.
	First one.
	Okay.
	He's trying to slide into the DM's Twix.
	Chinese manufacturer donated $25.
	Brian, show us stat dulper, thick like a semi-truck bumper.
	Get up and shake that thumper.
	Brian, show us dad dumper.
	I'd think they'd have to donate more than that.
	I want to go.
	Oh, shit.
	Brian, women want you to find their little man in the boat.
	Do the women on the panel discuss hygiene as part of their dating choices?
	Oh, of course.
	Yeah.
	Hygiene's important.
	Yeah, I hope everyone's hygienic.
	Thank you, Pat.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you, Pat.
	Also, we do have some pre-show notes here that I will make sure to get.
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	The purpose is for we, the people, to be able to overthrow our government when, not if, it becomes tyrannical.
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	Thanks Loose Pussy.
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	The amount of nose from the app from these dusty busted looking bishes is crazy.
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	You are delusional if you think you will look better in 10 years, that's probably.
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	It's fine, you're the only one Cloud Flying donated 25 dollars, happy to have made it to tonight's show.
	Thank you, man.
	Ladies, embrace the patriarchy.
	Feminism has failed.
	You cloud out, feminism has failed.
	You read chapter 10 about 25 dollars.
	Sorry if the question was overloaded, but you got to the point I was trying to make women support and be equal with other women.
	Well, what's interesting is like men in their lives to cover them.
	Friends and family, like your bye right.
	So like 25 dollars.
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	M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M. Wes Watson donated $25.
	I call on everyone to destroy this 304HL Wilson and her pathetic clown simp, Andrew Wilson.
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	Mr Bullet donated 25 dollars.
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	Hey Brain, sorry i'm late.
	Long day my girlfriend's dog died, naturally.
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	Where's Gustavo is donated 25.
	What is the man's role in a matriarchal society?
	No such thing, never been one, won't ever be one.
	Just saying I don't know what patriarch.
	Anybody else got anything up.
	Master Baker donated 25 dollars.
	I'm just waiting for a girl.
	Rosie find her boyfriend is on Bimbl during the Bumbles segment.
	Also Brian, do you read Labias like they are braille.
	What was that sentence?
	696969 blah blah, blah.
	69 donated $25.
	What's that song that'd be like?
	Why does this work?
	How do I know what song it is?
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	Rachel, you're awesome.
	And Brian, this is your obligatory friendly reminder to stop eating.
	So you think you've like twerked all the drama?
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	Donated $25.
	Rachel, will you address why you divorced twice?
	Five kids, three baby daddies.
	I mean, we can, if you want.
	So I didn't divorce twice.
	I've only been divorced once.
	Rachel Wilson's two baby daddies donated $25.
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	Okay.
	Go Maddie.
	Hit trauma, hit trauma.
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	The trauma?
	The hip trauma?
	Oh, I said, I asked her.
	She's short.
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	69 donated $25.
	When I rinse my mouth, I go Blair Bullagbeligblagbilag Blerk.
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	Why was he like clicking in the back?
	Those are kind of fun.
	Those are good.
	Roast Maddie, everybody.
	Guys, you can roast me if you want.
	Go for it.
	Nickelodeon donated $25.
	I think the ass clapper got the study messed up.
	Twerking only helps cause a release if there's a man laying underneath you.
	Does it work better?
	I don't know if it works better.
	Bucky Larson donated $26.
	Ladies, if you just bow to a man on the first date, his pee-pee will get so hard he'll put a ring on your finger on the second date.
	And lastly, don't be a strumpet.
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	Happy Memorial Day.
	Let's talk about how women in our country spit on the graves of our fallen by continually ruining the principles that made our country great, which they neither want or appreciate.
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	Rachel, proofs that evolution exist.
	1. Genetic evidence, 2. Fossil record, 3. Comparative anatomy, 4. Biogeography, 5. Embryology, 6. Direct observation, so the only gaze your fucking husband, vetch.
	Is donated $25.
	What salary should your ideal man have?
	Quick, don't matter.
	As long as he can provide, double divine.
	For sure.
	At the least.
	696969 blah blah blah 69 donated 25 dollars when all these chicks leave brian be in the back like How did they learn these?
	Oh, oh, oh, what?
	What the fuck?
	Mr. Z9107 donated $25.
	Yo, yo, yo, embrace the patriarchy ladies.
	It's best for you, it's best for family and great for society.
	Brian and Andrew the Dream Team hosts.
	Rachel is the perfect wife.
	Madison are submissive.
	Wes Watson donated $25.
	Rachel, men have built the infrastructure, thanks to the women, which conceived them, carried out the pregnancy, gave them birth and raised them.
	This is all the money.
	So let's give women the well-deserved credit and respect.
	It's definitely a woman.
	And?
	Oh, is that under the threshold?
	They're pretending to be Wes Watson.
	It's a long story, but thanks, Selena Gornes.
	Unfortunately, it's under the threshold.
	It's $25 for a TTS.
	So we can't read it, but thank you.
	Roast me.
	What?
	Somebody played that Windows Regional.
	Kaiju donated $25.
	To the first girl on the right, there are great white men out there.
	As a white man, I do understand if you still choose not to date outside of your ace.
	I am sorry for your past.
	Wish you the best.
	Thank you.
	But yeah, you're right.
	There are great white men out there, I'm sure.
	She said you'd be open to it, guys.
	Yeah.
	It's not that closed off.
	Can you be sexist towards men?
	I mean, yeah.
	Why isn't it?
	I think everyone can be sexist towards anybody.
	We all have biases, I feel like biases just don't go away.
	Is donated $25.
	A lot of these comments are from low-value menmen splitting their beliefs.
	They don't walk T-H-H-R walk but talk the talk.
	Real men are hard-working and courteous and god-fearing.
	Double agent donated $25.
	Brian, when can we get whatever to come to central Florida for a road trip so you can get the women here to come correct and take the red pill?
	I would like to take it on the road, hit Alabama.
	Wait, why isn't this coming through?
	It could be a spam filter.
	I don't know why it's not triggering, blah, blah, blah.
	It might have been the sp it will not let me do it.
	696969 blah blah blah, 69 donated 25.
	When all these chicks leave, Brian be in the back like oh oh, oh oh.
	That's exactly what happened.
	696969 blah blah blah, 69 donated $25.
	What's that song that be like?
	We already did these.
	I re-triggered it because the the other one didn't come through.
	I don't know why.
	I'll try to return Brian.
	So awesome you were able to get Caitlin Clark on the show.
	Make sure you give her a cut of this donation, since she plays in the WNBA, I think that's to you.
	Zionist underscore supremacist donated $25.
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	Nuance is important to relationships.
	If people have an undesirable past, they can change.
	Andrew tells people not to date single moms, but he married Rachel.
	Something to consider.
	Yeah, Coochiman69 donated $25.
	Most black/slash white relationships I've seen have had more family/slash parent animosity when it's a black man and white girl.
	Almost a stealing our men situation.
	Any thoughts?
	I can't see.
	I tried to re-trigger it, but it didn't work.
	Hold on, I'm gonna try something else.
	I'm gonna see if this works, but I don't know why it's not coming through.
	Why the phone in UK be like 696969 blah blah blah 69 donated $25.
	I broke TTS.
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	They don't want to be called Mormons anymore.
	What about Church of the Latter-day Soakers?
	Also, my helicopter goes like this sat like the sat.
	Don't shit post a 69 donated $25.
	What does the fox say?
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	What the fox say?
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	Stoofa 456 donated $25.
	She doesn't look like Caitlin Clark.
	She looks like weird Al Yankovich.
	Okay, rude.
	Wow.
	I guess this is the right talented man.
	Still not triggering.
	Sorry, man.
	I played with a couple settings.
	I tried my best, but it must have been.
	I don't know why, but.
	Sorry, bud.
	It's there, bud.
	Are we done?
	I think there's something else coming in.
	I must have re-triggered it like three times.
	Whoops.
	We have.
	Actually, no, wait, wait.
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	What was that?
	It's like a Dragon Ball Z. Colonel donated $25.
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	Andrew's black wife donated $25.
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	I'm curious who on the panel would date Brian.
	That's a lyric from.
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	However, zero respect for you.
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	Brian, isn't it crazy how the average woman will choose to do crazy sexual activities in the bedroom, but they can't do a simple boat unreal.
	Bucky, that's the whole point I'm trying to make.
	They'll let it go.
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	That's not what we were even talking about, but yeah, I don't do that either.
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	Okay, apparently, apparently, it Selena Gorn has donated $30.
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	I don't have it.
	It has to be free for it to even show.
	It has to be a book.
	But thank you, Selena.
	Madison is only a 9 and 3.
	Oh, but she did a 30.
	Boom.
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	Boomer.
	She's crying.
	I'll try to find this, Selena, since you did.
	I'll be nice.
	As Watson donated $25.
	Rachel, why you call yourself anti-feminist when you're 304 with five kids from three different baby daddies and two divorces, and on top of that, you're working, writing books, podcasting, etc.
	Too bad.
	Typical feminists.
	That's wrong.
	It's all wrong, but Selena wrote.
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	Hate to keep simping on the opera singer over there, but she looks amazing.
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	Selena also bought the new book by Rachel.
	Can't wait to read it.
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	Also, Maddie is a 10.
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	Thank you, Selena.
	All right.
	You guys can keep sending them in.
	I have a couple notes from some of the panelists, and then we're gonna wrap up the show.
	So we have generic statue donated $25.
	Brian, I appreciate the work you're doing with this podcast.
	You have opened my eyes to the decline in society, and hearing you and your guests speak encouraged me to better my life.
	Keep it up.
	696969 blah blah blah 69 donated 25 dollars brian don't eat as cheat Cheat ID Tebani fart box like Rojo and Dr. GMT donated $25.
	I think.
	Brixen, I appreciate that you do not perform oral.
	The original Christian definition of sodomy was any sex other than reproductive P and V. Do not be a sodomite.
	That's true.
	That's 25 on Twitter.
	Brian asked the chat to roast Maddie, and the result was crickets.
	The chat loves and respects Maddie.
	Speaking of which, guys, twitch.tv/slash whatever, she's going to start streaming on there.
	We did a test stream the other day.
	We're going to get it going, guys.
	There's some million things going on.
	So I know I've been saying that for a while, but jobs following the prime sub over here if you're watching on Twitch.
	All right, some pre-show.
	Let me get into the pre-show notes.
	So, Danielle?
	Yeah.
	Looking back in high school, you said you were a couple dudes' rebounds.
	Yes, I was.
	I was.
	I think I shared a specific story, though.
	It was like the only crazy story I had.
	So I was this guy's rebound.
	It was like very obvious.
	And at the time, I just had no direction in my life.
	But my husband was befriending me.
	So he was like my best friend at the time.
	Anyways, this guy just ghosted me after talking to me for a while.
	And I was like, I'm going to get revenge.
	I was like a dumb 17-year-old girl.
	And I had some of his underwear because we had ran a Ragnar race together.
	And you're like in a van for like over 24 hours.
	So you like change clothes.
	So I filled his underwear with peanut butter and I rubbed it over his brand new motorcycle.
	Damn.
	Excuse me.
	And my husband drove me to do it.
	Wow.
	Partners in crime.
	I was going to say.
	It's just peanut butter, though.
	It's not that kind of petty funny.
	It was just on the seat.
	It was like a nice prank.
	Because it could have been like, he could have been crazy.
	He wasn't.
	I mean, we don't want to be too crazy.
	We can't.
	No, I know.
	I'm going to say it.
	So you started on the bike though.
	So yeah, I just like stuck it on the seat of the bike and like just rubbed it and left.
	I was like, so you just rubbed peanut butter on the motorcycle seat?
	Yeah.
	Inconvenient.
	Yeah.
	Give him his underwear back.
	Because he ghosted you?
	Yeah.
	Like, it was, I acknowledge it was childish.
	I was the one who was if a girl or if a girl goes to the guy and then the guy goes over to her house and then murders her, would you guys have a problem with that?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, I wouldn't equate what I did to murder.
	Wow, good stuff, Brian.
	Yeah, that was great.
	You said men can make it out of the friend zone?
	Yes.
	I believe that.
	Obviously.
	I suppose they can, but honestly, $6,969, Brian, gonna hate this $69 donated $25.
	Here it goes, dot, cats, dot, kits, dot, you abusing, bro.
	You're abusing.
	Okay, that's crazy.
	I'm sorry, I gotta skip that one, bro.
	We got the idea, though.
	Thank you, man.
	They can, but I think it's better to just fucking move on and find another girl.
	No, I definitely agree.
	Like, I think that you shouldn't be.
	And I don't know how you would define that timeline.
	Because me and my husband were just in high school, so he was just like, I'm her friend.
	Like, I like her.
	Michigan Christian donated $25.
	Rachel, great to see the woman who takes care of one of our great leaders.
	Would love to hear your thoughts on the consequences of women in leadership and voting.
	Repeal the 19th and return to Christ.
	Yeah, I mean, it's all been bad.
	I mean, name a woman politician that you really thought was exceptional and fantastic.
	I don't think any politician.
	Nicolodeon donated $25.
	I'm willing to bet a couple of girls here have crazier stories than peanut butter on a motorcycle.
	Any popped tires, broken windows, burned clothes?
	Tell us.
	You've slashed cars.
	You've key cars.
	That's all I'm going to say about it.
	Don't tell what else.
	What else?
	Wes Watson donated $25.
	Brian, why you no longer post the Insta handles of the girls?
	They put the food on your table.
	Come on, dude.
	You know, we don't want you for Andrew's pretty face.
	Girls, don't come to this show.
	Yes, donated $25.
	Did you guys know that the tongue is a muscular organ that connects Adam's apple to Madam's chapel?
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	Okay.
	Fun fact.
	So you slashed a couple tires?
	How many men's car, like, was it just one guy or multiple guys you've slashed tires?
	Great Scotts donated $25.
	Really appreciate your efforts, Brian, for getting the message out for masculinity, but half these TTS hurt the show and almost unbearable.
	You should learn from my Ron and better the quality of the show.
	Oh, this is Natal Metherio underscore donated $25.
	I'm trying to get the opera singer to sing for me every night.
	They're gonna all marry you.
	What is happening?
	Bugging around donated $25.
	Ladies, how would you feel if you wrote a book and it did really well and your husband took all the KKA to buy MO?
	Pretty good.
	I'd feel good about it.
	Just saying.
	Ladies, how would you feel?
	$6,969 still worth it, bro69, donated $25.
	Much respect, Brian.
	But why don't you hit the blunt like calf calf cough calf cough calf calf, calf eating peaches.
	Donated twenty six dollars.
	Three girls on the right I bite them peaches in the bleachers all night.
	First date just met on a bus pitch hiking.
	I ain't no be yach.
	Good for you, not good for you.
	That was beautiful.
	That was beautiful okay.
	Uh, it was under the threshold.
	Um cons, you said consent-based morality is a lie.
	What does that mean?
	Yeah, I think that people can consent to things that are harmful to them and to other people, and so I think the whole idea that if you consent to something, it's okay is a lie.
	I would agree with that.
	Consent-based morality is dumb and easily easy to defeat.
	You said being an OF woman, you did quotes on woman, does not require any skills or attributes and is not a real job.
	Even though you're not.
	LDS girl, are you not familiar with the book of Mormon?
	It is sacred text of the Church of the Latter-day Saints movement.
	Mormon was their term, not something forced upon them.
	Yeah, so we read from the Book of Mormon, and that's why the name Mormon was given to us.
	So yes, that is true.
	I am familiar with the blue book.
	It's blue.
	It is.
	Is it like teal or is it blue?
	No, it's like a dark navy.
	It's a navy.
	It's a dark navy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Are there any like accents of like purple in there?
	Or is it mostly blue?
	Dark navy.
	The book is blue.
	The church is true.
	I haven't seen that.
	My husband has one.
	Okay, we don't.
	Sorry.
	Derailing.
	Okay, what was the question?
	Well, you.
	Oh, yeah.
	Being an OF woman does not require any skills or attributes, and it is not a real job, even though you're earning money.
	You're sitting next to a girl who does OF, and there's another OF girl right here.
	Yeah.
	That's what she said.
	Do you guys want to address her hateful comments?
	Do you want to address it?
	I just think it's her opinion, and I feel like anything that you can monetize.
	Telena Gornes donated $25.
	Ladies, quickly give one reason why you're voting for Trump in this upcoming election and one reason why you're not voting for Sleepy Joe.
	Hashtag Trump2024.
	My reason is because that's what Andrew's doing.
	So I only vote to double his vote and or various crazy people donated $25.
	Imagine an opera singer as a wife.
	The veracity of the nag would be unbearable.
	That's literally the magic flute.
	Queen of the Night Arya.
	It's like a harp.
	It's literally the mom nagging her daughter.
	At least from that's what I learned from Amadeus, which is obviously historically accurate.
	I mean, it's pretty close to the colours considered.
	I mean, it's fictitious, but yeah.
	Yeah, it's not historically accurate.
	So do you think that it requires like specific talent to post pictures of yourself on the internet?
	I'm going to just say this.
	The way I shake my ass, I think that it is the talent.
	That's all I'm saying.
	I'd like to see you do it.
	Okay.
	I can't do it.
	I think that sexualizing yourself like that on the internet is not a talent or skill.
	It's also like a cultural thing, too, though.
	Well, there's a lot of things.
	I'm not going to say it's a talent.
	Yeah, but prostitution is like a worldwide phenomenon.
	Yeah, it is.
	How is OnlyFans?
	Only is donated $25.
	That's not prostitution.
	Based Rachel-based.
	Wait, so you don't think that OnlyFans is prostitution at all?
	No, but I also feel like it's literally a platform where you can post anything.
	It's just like YouTube.
	Jaykin donates prostitution.
	Yeah, but like 98% of it sexual.
	He is my weekly donation.
	I'll be gone for a while.
	Thank you, Jay.
	Yes, ladies, you're welcome.
	I'm so damn pretty LOL.
	Yeah, he's a babe.
	How is he a babe?
	He's a babe.
	Yes, Gerald donated $25.
	Mrs. Wilson, what's that book that the viewers should go and buy?
	It's called Occult Feminism: The Secret History of Women's Liberation.
	The whole thing is a lie.
	It was never a grassroots movement.
	It's deleted.
	Battle Ethereo underscore donated $25.
	Simping like a madman here, but opera singer has a gorgeous smile, too.
	Goddamn.
	Thank you.
	I wish I had more petals to throw on her, like whenever these come through.
	Damn, he's got some fans.
	Good for you, buddy.
	So what constitutes prostitution then?
	Like, what's the definition according to you?
	The definition is literally going and selling your body.
	Andrew is donated $25.
	Andrew's going to be aware of that.
	So you think you have to ask sex for prostitution.
	Full progressive feminist tours, sex worker turned-based.
	Damn, bro.
	Why you got to do me dirty like that?
	I'm going.
	Full progressive feminist.
	Generic statue donated $25.
	The progressive feminist, because I can change her.
	I'll change her.
	Do whatever mental gymnastics you want.
	I'll fix her.
	You are a prostitute.
	You can save her, Brian, right?
	Yeah, I'll save her.
	I missed that.
	It said that prostitution is the exchange of any form of sex for money.
	And I agree with that.
	I would too.
	You also said there's absolutely no good that comes from sex work.
	Yes.
	Period.
	Yeah.
	And I respect your opinion.
	But.
	But you disagree with me.
	What's the button?
	What's the button?
	Yeah, my personal opinion is I feel like everybody should be able to do whatever the fuck they want, period.
	Wow.
	Well, but what good comes from it?
	Like, tell me what good comes from it.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait, we have to address that everyone should be able to do whatever they want.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Because what if a guy wants to, down there on the street below the balcony, what if he wants to jerk it in the middle of the street?
	He should be able to do whatever he wants.
	He's going to do whatever.
	What I will say is.
	Crazy people donated $25.
	Only tramps is not only prostitution, it's prostitution scaled up for mass distribution.
	I bet you can find Cheeto Boogers in that cleavage.
	Cheeto boogers.
	You know what I mean?
	Cheetos.
	You prefer Doritos?
	I feel like you're more for Doritos gal.
	I do like Doritos, but I don't eat them often.
	Okay.
	Do we want to talk about everybody should do what they want?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I just feel like, yes, that's a good example.
	No, that should not be done.
	However, whereas something that is consensual and like it's appropriate as far as OnlyFans, people sign up for that and they get what they get.
	I think that should be acceptable because that's what people want to do.
	Okay, so if a 60-year-old man wants to date an 18-year-old girl and she can sense, is that cool?
	Personally, no, I don't like it, but it's legal.
	That's why it's a legal thing.
	So he should be able to do it, though.
	According to the law.
	According to the law.
	What if this is Andrew?
	Sydney donated $25.
	Hey, Maddie Me again, your so pretty smile, Zeldi S girl.
	Isn't being black a curse in the book of Mormon?
	Huge fan, Brian.
	Rachel is great.
	Thank you.
	Timp donated $25.
	Opera girl is W wife material.
	They're in love with you, huh?
	I know.
	We're going to get her married by the end of this thing.
	For real.
	Apparently, all you need to be able to do is sing.
	So what if Brian here wanted to dig up the business?
	Because Watson donated $25.
	What the fuck?
	Rachel Wilson was fed somewhere.
	Well, I'm just saying, like, he's not hurting anybody, right?
	And last, but not least, she has a posse like a punched lasagna.
	What the?
	I think that this goes back to, like, you said anyone should be able to do what they feel.
	I'll take that back.
	I will take that at you.
	I meant as far as what I do with my body should not affect how you feel.
	Oh, I, but it affects society, so it does affect how I feel because you're producing something negative.
	And so it's going to have a negative effect.
	I'm very body positive.
	I love my body, and I love.
	I wish everybody would love their body, and you could do what you would like with your body, as long as it's not hurting somebody.
	I love my body, too.
	I respect my body.
	And you are destroying the world with your twerking.
	Don't cry about it.
	You know what, though?
	It's an actual thing that for girls who, let's say you're a girl who wants to be a virgin until the right man comes along and marries you, it makes it very hard to do that ever since a bunch of women broke like the contract, right, back in the 60s, 70s.
	If even 30% of the girls are giving it away, like it's going out of style, it makes it really hard for those of us who do want to marry a guy and stay with him and like, you know, it just kind of ruined the whole marriage thing that we have.
	Every girl who turns 18 is signing up for OnlyFans.
	Almost every girl, like, I think it's a very good idea.
	Can I add a really virgin wedding side of this?
	Well, I was going to say, I mean, y'all from the way that y'all feel that y'all are still married, so it didn't ruin it for.
	Also, do you want the guys that are going to sign up to pay for OnlyFans?
	That's my other question.
	Well, why?
	But why?
	It's actually not true that whites are more likely to be serial killers.
	Check out the database of all serial killers in the U.S. that Florida Gulf Coast University and Radford University have compiled.
	Yeah, I was pretty sure.
	Talina Gornes donated $25.
	PSA, 5K plus viewers and 2K lines.
	Like the video and boost the algorithm, people.
	Yeah, help us.
	Also, Omni Vans is 100% prostitution.
	Definitions matter.
	Also, I think another problem with the liberal opinion about anything in society today is that you guys think, well, it's not you, so it doesn't matter.
	Or worry about yourself.
	How's that hurting you, though?
	And it's like, it is.
	I should care because what you produce and put out into the world has an effect and will have an effect on you and those around you.
	And so to have the opinion of, well, just worry about yourself or you do.
	Yeah, I mean, we can look at data to see how bad things have gotten since women's liberation.
	And if you look at it, it's like if you look at kids who are in a juvenile facility, kids who are in any sort of subsidy.
	Everybody told donated $25.
	Why have anomaly vans to not share it?
	Give me a hint to find it.
	It's my name and then what I study.
	There you go.
	So yeah, if you look at kids who are homeless, kids who are on psych wards, almost all of them, like it's like 80 to 90% of them come from fatherless homes or homes that are disrupted.
	Marriage got thrown out the window.
	There is no family cohesion anymore.
	And how is this helping anyone?
	How is this do whatever you want?
	Just don't hurt anybody or take my stuff.
	Like that hasn't worked for us.
	We no longer have any sort of like societal standard for morality at all.
	Just do whatever you want.
	Then, I mean, shouldn't you be chastising fathers for leaving too then?
	Well, I would, except for that mostly it's the women leaving, not the men.
	I mean, you just give the examples.
	Imagine perpetuating the downfall in men because you like the money.
	You'd ride the thin line of the law and say it's okay because it's legal if killing someone was legal.
	Would you?
	No.
	Yeah, I mean, ultimately, I think that feminism has led to the destruction of the nuclear family, which is a central part of society.
	Tom Jones donated $25.
	I'm very body positive, LOL.
	LOL.
	Thank you, Tom Jones.
	Guys, we're going to wrap up the show here.
	Before I do that, we will do Twitch raid.
	Any final thoughts from anybody before I start wrapping this up?
	I would just, like, the only thing I don't want to come off as condescending.
	Just like think that you guys can do a lot more with your lives, and you have a lot to offer, and you're beautiful women.
	I don't think that you need to do sex work.
	Like we said, that's not the only thing that we do.
	I'm right.
	That's the minimal of what I do.
	That's just all you heard.
	I didn't even say that when I was asked, what do I do?
	I brought that up after the conversation was brought up, if you notice.
	Why did you feel the need to not share that?
	Because that's not my main thing that I do.
	Is it something that you're ashamed of?
	Not really.
	Honestly, that's why I said it.
	Did you do BG content?
	Boy girl content?
	No.
	You've never shot anything with a gun?
	I have, but do I sell that?
	No.
	Have you ever sold it?
	Sounds like a yes to me.
	What about you?
	Do you do BG content?
	Yeah, because that's just something that I like to do with my partner.
	How many men have you done BG content with?
	Two.
	Two different guys?
	Okay.
	Is that how they found out about each other?
	Because various crazy people.
	No.
	Well, here, I have a question about if someone is giving sex away or selling it for $2.99, it becomes a race to the bottom.
	Cheap poon is just that cheap poon.
	No man who has any self-respect is going to commit.
	Would you guys, if you were on the first date with a guy, would you guys disclose that you guys do OF?
	I actually have before, but I don't know if it's something that I would just like off the rip, whatever.
	But I guess like I would say I would want a man to disclose something like the fact that he has kids to me on the first date, but I don't think that equates.
	But yeah.
	You think it's a bigger deal to withhold somebody's parentage status as compared to their sex worker status?
	I don't think that it's comparable at all.
	I was just saying like an example of something that I would want.
	I mean, I would, my position would be it would be a bigger issue for a girl to hide her sex worker status than her.
	I mean, we're talking about first date, but I'm also not a sex worker.
	Michael Ethereo underscore denature 25.
	You're not a sex worker?
	Thank you for coming, opera singer.
	You're a good person.
	They love you.
	Hope it's not the last time I get to see you.
	Well, sex worker is sort of this all-encompassing term, but like, I mean, you said you've done boy-girl content, you do OnlyFans.
	You're a sex worker.
	I don't sell those videos.
	What I sell are provocative pictures, and they're not even nudes.
	So when you say you make boy-girl content, it's not your consumption, it's like private content?
	Yeah, but I already said that I don't sell that.
	Did you have you sold it previously?
	No.
	So how do you get it?
	Are you getting gaslit here?
	Yeah.
	I could have sworn you said you've done BG content.
	I think you're trying to gaslight me and tell me that I said something that I didn't say.
	Are you just trying to say it like you're doing?
	You said you did BG content with me.
	Okay.
	Wait, you said you did BG content with two guys.
	I had a second question and I just answered it the way that I answered it.
	I don't even understand what that really means.
	I think there was just a misunderstanding.
	I think she was just like boy girl content can just mean a video and so she's like I took a personal video with like my boyfriend or something.
	And then you asked me how many but that's not content.
	Content is posted.
	Tense for consumption.
	I mean if you want to be like by definition, but you asked me a question, I answered it.
	Wait, so did you or did you not do content with a man for your OnlyFans or some other platform?
	I just said no.
	So what did you mean when you said you made BG content?
	I already said it.
	I'm not about to like.
	No, you didn't really explain it.
	But I did though.
	So like just for private usage?
	Private content.
	That you sold?
	Or didn't sold?
	So.
	Am I done?
	It's okay.
	No, I'm just.
	She said she likes to make it.
	That's what she likes to do.
	She did it because she liked to do it.
	Content, like, okay, making a private video is not content.
	Content isn't getting by the publications.
	Well, like, just I think we're getting on like modern day definition.
	Content can still be like content for yourself.
	That's why I consider it like, I mean, if we're really looking at the dictionary, I'm talking, like, not like modern urban dictionary kind of thing.
	I mean, yeah, but I feel like the context was there.
	Yeah, I know.
	The context, but I still said what I said.
	At any rate.
	I said what I said.
	You were confused about it, so.
	A little confused, but.
	Me too.
	I don't understand it.
	It's confused.
	I mean, if there's nothing wrong with it, why are you upset?
	Is my question.
	I'm not upset.
	I just feel like I'm being asked the same thing repeatedly when I already answered the question.
	And I don't like to repeat myself.
	Yeah, you're just getting really defensive about it when if you're not ashamed of it and there's no problem with it, you could be like, oh, I misunderstood.
	I thought that you were saying, have you ever filmed something?
	I have filmed something, but it was always private.
	When he asks, have you made BG content and we're talking about your OnlyFans?
	But I didn't misunderstand the question because I did answer the question and I still said something that I was doing with my private dumb one and didn't clarify it for me.
	So have you ever made if I sold it and I said no?
	Have you ever?
	Okay.
	Have you ever given it away for free?
	Have you ever posted it?
	Have you posted it?
	Girls have free OnlyFans.
	Yeah.
	No.
	No.
	That's wild.
	Girls will post that shit for free on Twitter.
	Yeah, that's dumb.
	It is.
	Okay, but sometimes people play this trick of like, well, I didn't technically sell it.
	So no, I didn't make it and sell it, but they'll otherwise distribute it for free, for example.
	That doesn't apply to me, but yeah.
	For example, I've had like situations where I'll ask a woman if she has breasts, if she has breast implants, and she'll dance around the question saying, well, no, but she has like the fat transfer thing, which, I mean, it's kind of like the question is, have you had any sort of process, any sort of breast augmentation procedure?
	And they'll be like, oh, I don't have fake boobs.
	Wow.
	So they'll like play this.
	Is that semantic?
	I don't know what that's considered.
	So what that game is.
	Let's just cut the shit and say, have you ever posted you doing BG content anywhere online?
	I answered the question.
	Okay, answer it again.
	No.
	Okay.
	Wait, is it was okay.
	Was the answer no?
	The answer is no.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I could have just said that.
	I did.
	All right, guys.
	We're going to do a Twitch raid.
	How many car?
	How many.
	You said you keyed a couple cars and slashed a few tires.
	Granny's box underscore.
	Trenshave's the topic. I'm sorry. $25. Lickety-fricty somewhere's that beta cuck. His Sheikah and Duda's dudes filled her with goo while he sat in the corner jerkin' off what TF cuck.
	Love you all.
	Gotta go now.
	Time to get Granpy's rocks off.
	All right, Nick, we're gonna do a raid.
	I think I'm pretty sure I'm gonna do raid Aladar.
	So let me just get make sure.
	Let's see.
	We got Wo Grandma, but we've been raiding her a lot.
	Got Bobka.
	We're gonna do.
	Actually, we haven't done Bobka.
	Hmm.
	Do we do Bobka?
	No, we're gonna do Aladar.
	You can pull up Aladar really quick.
	One last Twitch.
	Yeah, guys, before we do a raid, guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow, drop us a prime sub if you have one.
	And then I'll just do a quick, brief outro here for a bit.
	Those of you who are watching on Twitch, I appreciate it, guys.
	We are going to do a raid there in just a sec.
	GG, well played to the panel.
	6,969 time to fix the vibe.
	69 donated $25.
	From the window to the wall, till the sweat drop down my balls, till all the beaches crawl.
	Till I skieth, skeet, marfuck, till our sketch, skeet, got stamped, yes, Okay, cool.
	Unwanted fetus donated $25.
	Where am I?
	I'm so cold.
	Please, why mommy?
	Damn, son.
	Okay.
	We said.
	Okay, so last call, hit the like button.
	Please, on your way.
	Thanks for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates and supports the show.
	We will be live again Tuesday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Rachel will be joining us again.
	Oh, actually, shit.
	We're going to do a...
	Rachel, I forgot if I asked you.
	Are you free tomorrow for a debate?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I'm down.
	Pretty good chance we're going to be doing a debate tomorrow.
	Guys, we actually had 10 flakes today.
	I said nine.
	We had 10 flakes.
	We had a no-show that I just totally forgot about.
	That's how crazy it was that I just totally forgot about one of the no-shows.
	So let's see.
	Yeah, and then we'll be doing another dating talk Tuesday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara.
	If you're watching on Twitch, we're going to raid Aladar.
	Nick, if you can pull up Aladar if you're watching on Twitch, are we actually just doing World of Warcraft?
	Oh, is he doing a raid?
	Oh my God, this isn't even done yet.
	He's a raid group.
	What's he doing?
	Oh, he's in Altarac Valley.
	He's in AV doing some PvP.
	World of Warcraft Classic.
	Okay, thanks for watching on Twitch, guys.
	Hope you guys have a good night.
	Enjoy Aladar.
	Thank you guys.
	Appreciate it.
	Good night.
	This is where I got to decide.
	Like, do I wait a little bit or just jump right back in and goodbye?
	What the fur?
	Oh, whatever.
	Lower the vibe.
	Whatever podcast, what's up, man?
	Whatever.
	I got to ask you a question.
	I actually don't know the question or the answer to this.
	Welcome, everyone.
	I'm going to go way past 14,000 followers now.
	Nine inches on a good day.
	What the fuck?
	I had nine inches of snow one time.
	Look at this.
	Are we going to get past 14,000 followers now?
	Holy crap.
	Anyways, welcome, everyone, from the whatever podcast.
	The podcast for men by men.
	And women, and I don't know where they find these women that are on his podcast.
	I really don't know where.
	There it is.
	Chad, look at this.
	Look at this.
	Oh, good.
	We got him to.
	Why is he not in the middle of my look at it?
	What is this?
	14K followers.
	Look at that.
	14,000 followers.
	Thank you, guys.
	Yeah, we helped him out.
	There you go.
	You know how long I've been waiting?
	Look at this.
	Thank you very much.
	Everyone that followed, I appreciate it.
	That's massive.
	My goal was to get to 14,000 by the end of the year.
	I like to raid small raiders just to help them.
	Where the men are men, the women are women, and cucks are chats by cucks.
	All right, okay.
	You can X out that name.
	He's going into another Altarac Valley.
	Okay, okay, there it is.
	All right, cool, cool.
	So, lastly, no, I think that's actually it.
	I'm trying to think if there's anything else.
	I think that's it.
	Right?
	Are we forgetting anything?
	No, I think we hit everything.
	Okay, cool.
	All right, guys.
	I'm pretty sure we're going to do that stream tomorrow, the debate stream.
	People are flaky.
	You never know.
	Then we'll have Tuesday show.
	And yeah, that's it, guys.
	Okay.
	07's in the chat.
	Thank you guys for tuning in.
	Appreciate it.
	Hope you guys have a good night and we'll see you again soon.

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