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She STORMS OUT And DELETES Her ØF?! 3 BABY DADDIES?! Men CAN NOT Have Standards?! | Dating Talk #155

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With that said, and without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
So please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation.
Go ahead.
Hello, my name is Selena Bowser.
I'm 31 years old.
I live in Pennsylvania, and I'm a certified nursing assistant.
All right, welcome.
Hello, I'm Kara, and I'm from Tampa, Florida, and I'm 26 years old, and I'm self-employed.
Self-employed.
Yo, when can I...
Oh, nice, the little Matrix thing.
Thank you so much for the gifted memberships, man.
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When you say you're self-employed, what would you do?
Well I had a cleaning company and I started doing OnlyPans 7X like OnlyPans slash I do I'm like sugar baby.
So you don't do OF anymore?
No.
You don't do any adult content at all?
Not currently, no.
Okay.
What about you?
Hello, my name is Karina Nicole Dean.
I am from Dallas, Texas, and I'm a marketing director, photographer, and I do bodybuilding sometimes, mostly 2022, but I took a break.
Sorry, did you say age?
27.
27.
All right.
What about you?
Hi, my name is Victoria.
I'm 34 years old, and I'm from Pennsylvania, and I'm a stay-at-home mom.
All right, welcome.
Hi, I'm Jesse.
I'm from Wisconsin.
I'm 20 years old, and I am a CMR for a men's health clinic.
All right.
I'm Lauren.
I am 32 years old.
I am a Christian mom of two, proud wife of a police officer and veteran, and I now am a pediatric nurse practitioner.
And I'm sorry, did you say your age?
32.
32, okay.
Hi, my name is Priya.
I'm 23 years old.
I am from the sunny state of California.
I co-run a family business that does law enforcement training and I sell insurance.
All right, welcome back.
Hi, I'm Liam Christopher, 35 years old, digital practitioner, growth hacker, Robin Hood of the internet.
I build cool brands and teach people how to make money.
I've also actually got a brand.
I'm just going to read a little quick script.
So this is a brand that I've co-founded and it's been co-sponsored.
So this is from my marketing team.
They said, don't bother advertising it.
Just tell them it's the first gummies brand ever to offer a $20 trial kit of everything.
Plus everywhere.
There's more.
There's more.
I'm going to take you on the journey.
Okay.
Plus, anyone who uses this special code gets 40% off everything in stock.
The code is whatever.
40%, you said?
40%.
Perfect.
Just use whatever.
They said, tell the audience, the wake-up and focus are like an energy drink in a gummy bear.
The relax and sleep have been designed to be super effective with a knockout formula.
Sit back, relax, and let our company gum in your mouth.
That's from my marketing team.
But just quickly, then my investors, I said this to them and they wrote to me, you stupid idiot, 40% off means they get all the products basically at cost price.
This could bankrupt the company.
And then I responded to them and I said, I've already made the code.
It's live for a week.
It cannot be undone.
My bad.
Oops, he can't be undone.
That's it.
So just gummies, right?
Yeah, they're gummies.
So in fact, actually, would you want to try one and tell me if it's as tasty as you can?
I want to try one.
Yeah, sure.
Could I try?
Can I gum in your mouth as well?
Tell me if they're nice.
Mmm.
Yeah.
So those will help you guys focus.
Yeah, that's the story behind me and the brand, and that's it.
Thank you, guys.
I appreciate it.
My name's Jake.
I have a YouTube channel called Rattlesnake TV where we analyze debates and we do a podcast as well.
My podcast is called the Reality-Based Podcast.
You can find that on Google Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and all major streaming platforms.
Did I mention that I'm 28 from Australia?
And that's about it for me.
Cool.
All right.
Welcome, everybody.
So what we're going to do now is...
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Any shrimps on the Barbie?
Brian been having too much brekkie, I reckon.
Lay off the Macca's fatty shit cunt.
Foster's Australian for beer.
Oh my gosh.
Lads, do you go down under on any shelers?
Oh my god!
Didn't expect racism on this podcast.
Wow.
Jesus Christ.
This is why I normally stay away from Australians.
I've been stitched up because You get two of us in one place, two Australians.
It was a setup.
That is the first time I've ever seen.
I thought we were just going to eat some gummy bears, but no.
We'll come back to his question.
We'll do the relationship status, but we'll come back to it.
So going around the table once more, what's everybody's current relationship status?
So are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule, sex cult, whatever it may be?
If you're single, how long have you been single?
And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
Go ahead.
I'm in the talking stage right now, and my longest relationship was 10 years.
Were you married?
No.
How long have you been in this talking stage?
Like a month.
One month?
Yeah.
Is it exclusive?
For me, I don't know about him, but for me, yeah.
There's no other guys in the picture?
Not for me, no.
Okay.
What about you?
So I would say complicated.
And complicated because I went exclusive with somebody I met through a sugar dating, through a sugar dating experience.
And then instead of us staying exclusive, I went and sugared and then told him that I did that.
So I don't know what I am right now.
I guess like talking, was talking, and then now I'm not.
So you're a sugar in multiple coffees at the moment?
Yeah, like I'm like a sugar, like I, yeah, it's hard to explain.
I'm a sugar baby.
So like I go on seeking.com, which is like a sugar baby website.
And I'm very particular about who I hang out.
So when you have a relationship with them, is that your boyfriend or would you call him?
Oh, I used to think that I was polyamorous, but like I think that was just an excuse for me to like say I was dating multiple men, but really I wasn't dating them.
What was the biggest stack of cash you've ever got?
Probably $3,000.
Brother.
In one transaction.
Yeah.
So is that the term?
Sugaring?
I guess I made it up.
I don't know if I made it up.
It's a palatable, Priya.
I don't like to be called a sugar baby because everyone stereotypes it to be dating older men, but really a lot of younger men are on the site.
Yeah.
They just like don't want that attachment to the girl.
So they're, and they have a lot of money.
Would you say that they're paying you for your time and your sexual attention?
Yeah.
So would you call that dating or would you call that prostitution?
No, I would.
I would call it like, yeah.
But they don't know what you're saying.
I mean, you could title it prostitution.
You can title it prostitution, but like I call it sugary.
But the cops do think it's prostitution.
Yeah, okay.
Which is not on the stage.
They do.
They don't take us seriously.
So it's like internet prostitution instead of straight stage.
But I meet them in person.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Cool.
Develop a gender.
Wait, so you're currently seeing a guy.
I was seeing a guy.
You were.
Yeah.
Okay.
But I have multiple.
I was seeing.
How many were you seeing?
Probably like, if I'm being honest, like 10.
Oh.
And you were getting paid to see all of these men?
Yes.
God, I know.
Were you having carnal knowledge with all of them?
What does that mean?
Sexual intercourse.
Oh, yeah.
Protected.
All of them.
Yeah.
At the same time?
No, it wasn't an orangey, no.
No, it means just in the same time period.
Yeah, but like, okay, for instance, like, one of them lives in a different state.
So like he only comes sometimes to visit his child in a school that's close to me.
And like I see him like two or three times a year.
But like I would consider him somebody that I'm like spiritually sexually connected with.
So that was one of 10.
What about the other nine?
I'm not going to go through them all.
Were they in like a consistent rotation?
Oh, the erection.
There's no wow.
Oh my god.
Okay, yeah, I guess my phone kind of reveals a lot.
That's another reason.
I've been out, girl.
That's another reason why.
I'm being honest.
That's another reason why my ex-like exclusive arrangement and I separated recently is because he found out more about me by being on my phone.
Wait, do you have a list like in notes of like all the no, I just remember.
Okay.
Wait, so you said you were seeing 10 like how long ago?
A couple weeks ago?
Well, I would say this is very recent.
Yeah.
So like recently, within the last two weeks, I started like, I would say breaking up with them or letting them know like, hey, I'm getting into something exclusive.
I can't see you anymore.
Unless you give me X amount of dollars.
No, I'm not one of you.
So on my profile, on my seeking profile, it says like I'm not there to take their money.
I'm very like non-transactional.
Like I'm not like, hey, you have to take me shopping.
Okay, wait, wait.
I'm transactional, but like I'm not like a seeking transactional hoe.
That's what I record.
Like they don't.
You're seeking arrangements.
Yeah.
So then why not date like a normal human being?
I want to do that.
I think I'm to a point where I want to like settle down with one person.
I've done that before.
I've only been on seeking arrangements for like a year and a half.
And that's actually why I came on the show is because I want to talk about like all the things that can go wrong in that kind of like situation.
Yeah, like lifestyle.
Yeah.
That's what it seems like you're trying to do.
Like you're trying to get something normal, but with one of the sugar daddies.
Yeah, I was.
Until I ruined it because I lied to him.
Oh, make that mistake.
So you weren't exclusive to him.
Yeah, I was.
And then he went to Chicago, and then I came, I was like separating with one of my sugar arrangements, and I still slept with him.
So you weren't exclusive with the screen.
Yeah, I wanted to be, but like, I fucked up.
Happens to the best of us.
Yeah.
Happens to us all.
Oh, that was such a nice response.
I can't really.
I like your accountability.
I haven't dated 10 guys at once and accidentally fucked one of them.
No, no, no.
That was wrong.
It was like a goodbye fox.
He was like, I'm going to get, like, not married, but married.
And it was like, goodbye.
And he has.
He just got a really good dick.
That was good.
Wait, so you're currently seeing nobody?
Well, I wanted to go exclusive with him, so I separated with all my sugar arrangements.
And then now I've been like just chilling in California.
So you're single?
Yes.
But having sexual intercourse with some men.
Yes.
How many men currently are you having carnal knowledge with?
Well, since two weeks ago, probably like three.
And then before that, like 10.
But in total, that's for a different question, right?
Wait, so like currently you're having sex with three men?
Well, like, I don't know, like today or like this time period.
How about this time period?
Here we are.
48 hours.
Past 48 hours.
Or at least one.
Okay, how about this week?
One.
How about two weeks?
Like three.
Oh, okay.
All right.
That's it.
Yeah.
I've dwindled it down, and I really have.
Because it's very addicting.
What's up?
Not just like the sh I say sugaring.
You didn't laugh, but like meeting very like successful, accomplished people that are like, because I'm a saposexual, so I'm a sapiosexual, so I'm like attracted to intelligence.
And like, I think smart men, not all women are attracted to intelligence.
But I'm also like a demisexual, so I have to like.
You had to pick one.
If I had to pick just one.
I would say definitely intelligence because I can learn off of them.
And then, if they, like, we have a connection and they're intelligent, like, they'll teach me things.
Would you date somebody if they were smart and broke?
Probably not.
So, then that wouldn't make you a sapiosexual, whatever the hell that means.
Not entirely.
If you are looking for that, then you wouldn't date him if he was broke.
Then it clearly means that you date people for money.
Well, no, not necessarily, because like my last, all my boyfriends have been broke.
I've actually been paying you.
No, like my actual real, a year and a half ago, I've dated serious relationships.
Committed?
Yeah, committed, like long-term, like four or five years.
So, so, what's the most important piece of knowledge that you've gained from these men?
Oh, how to invest money.
Um, their money.
How's the boyfriend?
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
All right, we're gonna move on.
Uh, we can come back to it a little later, though, but uh, your relationships status.
So, I'm in my longest relationship I've ever been.
He's um, so three and a half years.
Um, he's only been my second boyfriend, so yeah.
Okay, what about you?
Um, things are really complicated right now, but I'm technically married.
I've been married for going on eight years.
I've been on and off with him for 14 years, and that's like the longest time.
And I haven't really seen you guys in the process of getting divorced.
No, we were separated, and now we're talking again and seeing how many times has it been off-on?
A lot more than 10.
I mean, starting out, yeah.
But then, for we were together for nine years straight, and there was nothing, and then we were separated, and then we got back together, and then we were separated again, and then we got back like we're talking again.
So, and that's what's you're a stay-at-home mom, right?
I am.
So, who, how are you able to do that?
Are you is he living with you or yeah, right now?
We're living together.
So, more than talking.
Yeah, I guess more than talking.
Talking regularly.
We're living together, yes.
Okay, we will probably reconcile.
That's that's what's on the agenda.
Okay, um, so how many times would you say it's been on-off?
Oh, gosh, from the beginning, probably 20 times.
So, like, total about 20 times?
Okay.
All right.
What about you?
I'm in a two-year serious relationship.
All right.
And how did you guys meet?
We met at the hospital.
So, he was a medical student.
I, at the time, was a certified nursing assistant and phlebotomist.
We had a code.
I was the first to respond.
It was his patient, and I saved his patient.
We went out to dinner the next day.
That's cute.
Is this an age gap relationship?
Yes.
What's the cap?
Eight years.
Is it weird to you?
Sorry.
Is it weird to you?
No.
Not at all.
That's good.
Eight's not that bad.
So he's 28.
You're 20, he's 28.
Yes.
So, and he is a surgeon, is that correct?
Yeah, he's a resident surgeon.
Okay, got it.
What about you?
I have been married for the last little over nine years, and that is my, we've been together 10 years, but that's my longest relationship.
Do you guys have kids?
We do.
We have two kids, an eight-year-old boy and a three-year-old boy.
All right.
And you mentioned this during the intro, right?
You're a doctor yourself, is that correct?
A nurse practitioner, but yes.
A nurse practitioner.
It's like the, it's a, you have a little, you can do a little more than a physician's assistant.
Lauren, right?
Yes.
Oh, it says here, I don't know if, can the nurse practitioner be a pediatrician?
Yeah, so you do the same job.
In Pennsylvania, you have to have a collaborative practice agreement with a physician, an overseeing physician.
But in a lot of just like 23 states, you can open your own practice as a nurse practitioner.
Okay, so you can classify yourself as a pediatrician.
Okay.
Gotcha.
That's just what we had in our notes here.
Okay, cool.
And you said you're married to a police officer.
Proudly, yeah.
Okay.
He was a veteran.
He was in the Air Force.
Okay.
Wow.
Cool.
All right.
What about you, Priya?
I am single.
I've been single for about four or five months now.
My longest relationship was about six months long.
All right.
Liam, what about you?
At the moment, I'd say I'm married to my work, so I don't really date anyone.
However, I've had two really good five-year long-term relationships.
They're really positive, have very positive things to say about them, and yeah, that went great.
Awesome.
I'm single, and longest relationship was about two years, but yes, very much married to my work as well at the moment.
Another struggle.
There you go.
That's a good way to be there.
Sweet.
A couple questions here, just going off some of the notes we have.
I want to actually go around the table really quick.
So starting with you, well, not starting with Lauren, but Lauren, you're married to a police officer.
And so I do want to ask the table, would you date a police officer?
Probably not.
Okay.
And well, how about before you say why, I'll get everybody's answer.
Absolutely not.
Absolutely no?
No.
Okay.
I would.
Yes.
I would.
I would.
Well, of course.
Exhibit A. That's men out.
I would be proud to do so, yeah.
All right.
So I think it was just you two who said no.
Just curious why.
Because I'd be too paranoid and end up dying.
Okay.
That's actually a good reason.
I thought you were going to say something else, and then I would be able to come back and see if I called her.
I just think that with me, like.
You'd get arrested?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just don't think that my path of like what I'm doing right now would align with like a police officer's lifestyle and like what they're like.
Like following the law.
Yeah.
Maybe.
Yeah, but OnlyFans isn't against the law.
Probably.
But do you consume substances?
Do I substances?
Substances.
Illicit substances.
Well, I smoke weed, but I don't think that's illegal.
I'm saying it's illegal.
Yeah, it is.
Unless you've got a medical application.
That's why I never probably go to Pennsylvania.
That's it, though.
That's the only thing you do is.
Yeah.
Okay.
Just curious.
Just curious.
Occasionally I drink a sangria.
Like while smoking.
Yeah.
Like for dinner tonight?
No.
No.
No, not for dinner tonight.
All right, guys.
We got a motorcycle in the back.
Okay, so pretty much just you wouldn't align with.
Yeah, like for instance, I don't think that law enforcement people can date like OnlyFan chicks.
Is that a problem?
Or like sugaring, like, I don't think police officers are like on seeking arrangements, for instance.
I don't ever find like police officers because I think they can probably find very high-class women without going on a website to pay for one.
That's your opinion.
No, I think it's pretty much facts.
I mean, there's doctors and lawyers and all of them on there, though.
Probably because they're kind of crooked, but.
Wait, there's crooked doctors and lawyers on.
Well, I mean, there probably are, but.
I think there's crooked people everywhere.
Yeah.
Yeah, but also, I don't know what's going on.
But there's actually like no police officers.
Like, I've never met a police officer.
Maybe, oh, there's actually ex-police officers on there.
Maybe they got fired.
No, they're retired, actually.
I feel like doctors and lawyers should be cleaning up.
like they don't need seeking no they're all like there's doctors lawyers there's fucking pay for There's actually famous people on there.
I think they're literally famous on these apps because they can subtly go and get a transactional relationship.
And they don't have to be attached to the girl.
Just stop while I'm speaking.
Sorry.
And so while they're married or whatever, if they want to go and step out, then they can have a faceless profile on their street.
But they're not married.
They're not married.
But also for doctors, the schedule is pretty rough.
A lot of them are not married.
Yeah.
A lot of them are.
They just.
They can't find a woman who can understand that lifestyle.
Like, let me.
It's a lot.
Yeah.
So actually, you're right.
And so let me take that back.
They're not crooked.
They're just more like busy and they don't have time to dedicate to a female.
And females are very needy.
And so they like the idea of being able to have that kind of arrangement.
So that way they can just go back to their lives and not have that attachment of a girl like, I don't know, falling in love with them.
Not even one-eyed sand.
They're like long-term arrangements.
So you see them more than once.
Yeah.
Okay.
Interesting.
Yep.
All right.
So I want to come back to, let me pull this one back up.
So Veggie Mike Bogginsiku donated $200.
Here we go.
Boy Cryke.
How are you going, your little beauties?
Good on your mates.
Much winging.
Any shrimps on the Barbie?
Brian been having too much breakie, I reckon.
Lay off the Macca's fatty shit cunt.
It's too Australian for me.
Lads, do you go down under on any Sheila's?
So this is a question for us.
I guess it'd go down under on Sheila's.
Liam, that was for you, bro.
I've never really had that.
Yeah, we'll start with Liam.
But I will say, if you replace fat cunt with sit cunt, that's actually a compliment in our culture.
Yeah, it is.
Okay.
It's the highest honor you can get.
I'm Sheila.
You're one word change away from like so close.
I'm so close.
We could all be so blessed.
We could all be sick cunts at this table.
Yeah, right.
I guess I'll start.
So me personally, he's asking if we go down under.
I do not do that.
Why?
Eh, just not my thing.
You never teach their own.
I mean, I haven't.
The last time I did it was the Bush administration.
Was that a put in ironic?
No, like.
It's too mean to say that.
No, literally.
Literally 2008 was the last time I.
I literally back in the 87s.
Yeah.
She did some Bush administration at the time.
Just because it was hairy.
That was the best punt I've ever heard.
Yeah, no, but it literally, like, it's been since it's been 17 years.
Wait, hold on, let me do math.
2007, 2008, or some shit.
Fascinating.
Yeah, not a fan of it.
Of going down.
I'm a fan of labia.
Not a fan of going down.
Then what do you do to the labia?
Like, why do you like it so much?
If you don't, like, actually, like, use your tongue or anything.
Well done, Nick.
Yeah.
Hashtag Big Labian Matter.
Yeah.
What do you mean?
Like, I mean.
Like, what do you like so much about it then?
If you don't touch it, like, do you touch it with your hands?
You're talking about like big labia?
Yeah.
Like, don't you, like, like to like feel like see what it feels like with your tongue at all?
Like, no.
Not really.
Maybe it's the taste of it.
That's lame.
Yeah, sometimes it could be the taste.
It could be, hey, you know, if there's infidelity.
Certainly, like, I mean, look, to each their own, but my recommendation to men, you shouldn't even be doing that unless like you know for sure she's exclusive with you.
You can't be like going down on some Tinder chips.
Is that because of STDs?
Even if there's not, if she's like sleeping with other dudes, that's grimy.
Oh, so like you think that you might get like lick another guy's cum out of yeah.
Thank you for making it detailed.
Can I ask a dumb question?
What's a labia again?
The lifts.
I have a fat labia.
Please don't get Brian started on this topic getting lower.
I was hashtagging 411 Fat Labia because that's what is 411.
Oh my God.
Her height.
Can we terminate this conversation?
Yeah.
But technically it doesn't matter whether it is.
I'm one of your followers.
Nice.
But yeah, I mean, yeah, I definitely might look as a guy if you want to do it with your girlfriend fine.
I don't recommend it with like some Tinder hookup.
You don't know if she's smashing like three other dudes.
So yeah.
But I don't do it period.
You're seeking hosts.
Bro, even if she's a virgin, I'm not doing it.
Can I give you some advice on how I do it?
No, no, like this one.
I'm not going to join.
No, So when you like, when you're getting to know a girl, that's like the dating process as to whether or not she's going to be accepted into the next cycle of because if she has a low PhD.
If she gets to graduate to the going down under sort of thing.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
It's like you get to learn.
Wait, so wait.
Yeah, so what I'm saying is like when you're when you're dating and hooking up, like I'll do it with a girlfriend, to your point.
Yeah.
But not with a girl that I'm dating.
If that makes sense.
Yeah, no, that makes sense.
Yeah, that makes sense.
But when she graduates, then I'll go down.
Yeah, she's got to be can't be seeing other dudes.
Jake, what about that?
No, I agree with your take, Brian.
I think that was a good take.
Okay.
But you don't do it then.
No.
I repulsively.
Let's go.
Let's fucking go.
This is a repulsive conversation.
Well, I mean, here, we'll open up to the ladies.
Ladies, would you date a guy who, let's say he's wonderful and great and amazing and sexy and cute, but he doesn't do that.
Would you?
That's a tough one.
No.
Hold on, one at a time.
Go ahead.
I don't know, honestly.
I guess it just depends on how good his personality is and everything because I like getting head.
I like giving it.
I like getting it.
Word.
What about you?
No, because I literally love riding men's face.
Like, literally sitting on top of it, holding onto the headboard, like all that shit.
This is exactly what we're talking about when we say you have to be so careful because you were having sex with 10 different men at the same time.
And there you are riding.
So we actually get STD tested.
He just sucked the dick of the last nine men you fucked.
Wait, say that one more time?
Whoever you did that too, sucked the dick at the last nine men.
No, nine dicks.
Don't point on me.
You pointed out.
It's a hypothetical guy.
It's hypothetical.
Okay.
So he's sending the guy.
Okay, yeah.
Whoever's under you, there's nine other guys that you're having sex with.
Yeah.
He's eating nine dicks in his mouth.
That's what I mean.
Yeah, yeah.
Like a bouquet.
But just because I like it.
So I'm not going to lie, like, some of the arrangements were married, but not all of them are.
So then he has to go back to his walls.
Yes.
I think that's it.
Yes.
And I think that when they're married, it's like less people that you have to send to the STD clinic to get tested.
Because we get regularly, because we have access to that, where we can get like quick tested.
Yeah.
How in the world?
I'm sorry to the world.
Please don't.
Yeah, do you feel bad?
I don't feel bad because they're in sexless marriages.
Do you want to get paid?
That's not your job to work on that.
Yeah, it is, because their dick needs to be sucked too.
Do you want to get paid?
So technically it's hard to know.
That's exactly what's wrong with today's society, but yeah.
Yeah, but why wives literally do not give them sex.
You don't know that.
You have to tell me that you don't.
You know what they're telling you.
And Why would they want the sex elsewhere?
Because their wife is too vanilla.
I think they're physical beings, men in general, and they're degenerate.
They're degenerates if they're doing it.
But it's not, but you're contributing to the problem.
So who's the victim then?
No, do you want to get married?
The wife.
The wife.
Well, maybe she should sell her dick.
Her husband's dick money.
Do you feel guilty doing that?
No.
Do you want to get married one day?
No.
You don't want to have kids?
No.
No.
It's like not on your content.
I never want to get married.
That's a bit too much.
Marriage is like a very religious thing.
But you don't respect other people.
Well, I mean, maybe the husband should have respect and not seek me then.
I think it really is.
Sure, it is not her job to have any respect for anybody.
Yeah.
I mean, they shouldn't seek me.
I don't know.
And then tell me that they're married because I have to sneak over to their house.
Oh shit.
But you act like that's okay.
I know we say like speak close to the mic, but I think you're like stroking that.
That mic's basically number 11.
Did you make that mock on seeking as well?
How much did the mic pad pay you today?
Out of curiosity?
$2,500.
It's getting its money worth.
I can tell you that much.
We'll put it on.
I'll buy a new microphone cover for you.
I can do some AMSR or whatever it's called.
Wait, don't do that weird shit with the fucking mic.
Yeah, you can't bad.
You're going to have to disinfect it.
Digital assault, actually.
Yeah.
Believe it or not.
She actually, that was an essay on the fucking microphone.
Fucking non-consent.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, old mic's matter, okay?
So we gotta respect you.
Hey, are you trying to pull some Me Too movement shit on me right now?
If the mic gets assaulted again, we might have to.
Just quit being a pervert to the mic.
All right.
Police question.
Labia giving hitting.
Oh, Labia's giving me a mic.
You remember that one?
If we were to marry a policeman, she answered.
Oh, yeah, deal breaker.
Deal breaker.
The guy won't go down under.
Me?
Oh, absolutely.
Because I marry whoever I marry, I marry them.
And if they choose not to be comfortable with that, then I'm okay with that because I care more about you're fine with him not wanting to do it.
Okay, I see, I see.
Okay.
So you wouldn't feel any type of way?
No.
You won't be craving it?
Because life is too short.
Well, no.
Yeah, so life is too short.
And then with sex, there's endless ways to pleasure him or yourself.
So there's options.
There you go.
That's very true.
Yeah.
I wouldn't care either way.
It wouldn't be a deal breaker.
It would be a preference if he didn't.
Wait, hold on.
So you'd prefer.
If he did not.
He didn't want to and didn't.
Yes.
Oh, you were responsible, girl.
There you go.
Yeah.
Definitely a preference.
There you go.
Why is it a preference?
I don't get anything from it.
Not at all.
Does it feel like awkward for you when it's happening?
It just, I don't know if they just didn't know what they were doing.
I don't think that's the case.
If you had some real good head, you might change your mind.
I mean, I think for some girls, it can be like too stimulating, like over-stimulating, maybe.
That's very true.
Well, it's not fun to look at the ceiling.
So you're looking at the ceiling?
I mean, yeah, like why wouldn't you want to be face-to-face, like looking at your partner?
I think that's probably a deeper thing.
So you only do missionary.
No.
No, but I'm not sure.
So you're a missionary.
Guys, you're not.
That's the vanillas.
That's why your wife goes in seeking arrangements.
Oh, okay.
First of all, my husband would never ever seek you out.
Okay.
Oh, because he's a police officer.
Because he's a police officer.
Let's just get that straight.
All right.
I would not be opposed if he didn't want to do that.
That's totally fine.
Like she said, there are 100,000 ways to please your partner.
It doesn't matter at all.
And it's also a very much more juvenile thing.
I think back when you're 16, 17, you're thinking that it's really risque, but it's not really when you become an adult and you mature, it's not really.
So you don't eat.
So when you become mature, you don't eat pussy.
You don't even use it.
Or suck when you're mature.
Wait, you don't.
Oh my God.
Let's use Sing the D.
Yeah.
Sing the D. You don't use the Death.
I personally would never even talk about it as a conservative female, like talk about it with other people of my sexual life with my husband.
Oh, well, I go to like sex parties and things like that.
So my kink is that like I like people watching Ruby Fox.
So you are funny.
Yeah, I like her.
I like her.
This is good back and forth.
Yeah, I like it.
Let's go back and forth.
Yeah, well, what the girls are.
I'm in the swinger community.
I like to be a third to couples.
It's fucking disgusting.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't care.
It's disgusting.
Cosign.
Because being like just signed to one person, like and tied down.
You choose.
You're not being a sign just like you're not assigned yourself.
Not a sign, but like tied down, like sign a contract or whatever.
No, you find someone you love that much that you want to spend your entire life.
But you can live each other.
I'll be done one second.
That you want to spend your entirety, your whole life, and dedicate everything to them because they are that good.
You don't need to fill the void with other people, with nine other men, ten of them.
They're not nine, ten, but like before this, like before I went on seeking arrangements, I did like the swinger lifestyle.
And like it's, I guess, in a way, yeah, you're involving other people into your sexual intercourse, but most people that like allow you to couples that allow you to sleep with other people, like they, their marriage lasts longer.
No, there's something wrong with that marriage.
There's not much infidelity.
It's not like in swinging community, there's not much infidelity because their partners talk about it with their partners.
Maybe they're not married.
They're not legally married, maybe.
But which lifestyle last longer is that?
Well, is it infidelity though?
What makes it a marriage a marriage, though?
Just going to the courthouse and then having a celebration with your family?
No, it's that union between two people.
Yeah.
Well, you could still have that and include other people and still spice up your life.
No, no.
That's a commitment between a man and a woman.
Which lifestyle did you.
Which lifestyle makes you happier this week?
Honestly, like, I would say, like, I like to be tied with one person.
Yeah.
Like, before.
Well, I mean, it's.
Math isn't math.
Yeah.
Well, I'm saying, like, if I could go back and be with one person and find, like, who I want to settle down with, like, I want that too.
It's like your learning person.
You're just fucking up.
I found them on Seeking Arrangements.
I'm going to go exclusive with them.
I don't think they're looking for that.
Yeah.
You don't know my relationship, though.
You can't say you don't think they're looking for that.
You can find the person you're going to be with.
Yeah.
They're not on a second place.
That would mean that they are seeking a certain type of arrangement.
Seeking arrangements is a place where young girls go for sugar daddies to pay for their lifestyles and to pay for sex.
So by definition, you could still fall in love with somebody.
That's not their goal.
It's not seeking a high-value woman.
It's seeking arrangements.
Yeah, but it's not seeking a wife.
Yeah.
I don't want to be a wife.
You're seeking for a process.
I don't want to be a wife.
But if you don't want to be a wife, then why would you still want to be in a community?
I don't ever want to get married.
So you just have one person.
Yeah, stay with one person and not be married and like have, yeah, all that tied into it.
Like what makes you married?
Like having what?
A celebration?
I think if you want that committed relationship, then you're going to have to stop that lifestyle.
Yeah.
That's just the appropriation and education of you.
Yeah.
Only you'll get it one day.
Yeah, to go exclusive with somebody, that means you have to stop seeing the other people.
It's called self-control.
It's really going, that's what I'm doing now.
This is all new.
So you've slept with three different people in the last two weeks.
Yeah, it's better than 10.
But she dwindled it down.
She's trying, you know, she's trying.
Hey, I'm dwindling.
I'm doing the breakup check.
Look into this camera for Nick.
Put it on.
Sure.
Look into this camera right here.
Yes.
I did.
I ate a lot of edibles, okay?
Yeah, we can tell.
Oh, yeah.
We can tell.
Yeah.
No, you look like a famous celebrity.
Well, quote unquote, famous.
Andy Dick.
Who's Andy Dick?
You look a little bit.
Now you said I can't get out of my way.
I know exactly.
You know what I mean?
I can't get out of my way.
Can you pull it up?
That's actually very accurate.
Am I right?
Can I stay up?
Nick, can you Google Andy Dick?
Did you comment that?
No, I just like just with the wings.
I was looking at her and I was like, you kind of look like Andy Dick.
Yes.
Yeah, now it's stuck in my head, too.
Wait, young?
Can we do young?
That's not nice.
That's good.
A little bit.
Lucky you.
You're so pretty.
That's Dick.
You're a pretty third one.
What about the mug show?
Wait, chat, chat.
I was going to say the mug show.
Nick, pull up the chat.
I didn't see the mug show.
Now I'm going to call you Andy Ten David.
Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you!
Please do!
That's a good one.
That's what I thought was a good one.
Does she look like a little bit?
I love Ginger.
Can you leave the chat up?
Yeah, it's right here.
You're saying, yes, she does.
Ginger Dick.
Ginger.
What?
Yeah.
There's another one, too, that I was thinking of, but it's.
Wow.
Oh, Kathy Griffith.
That's true.
That's true.
Yeah.
Someone said Joe Dirt.
Oh, that's me.
I'm not stealing them away, technically.
She's actually reading the chat here.
Trans Andy!
Chris off, I do not fuck trans.
Okay.
Oh, my God.
That's a no-no.
Oh, no.
I just.
Macaulay Colkin.
God damn.
Seth Greenwald.
All right.
Lois from Family Act.
I'm sorry.
I just, I noticed it.
I'm going to say it.
Matt Diamond.
Point it out.
Matt.
You look more like Matt Damon than her.
That's true, actually.
I do.
What the fuck?
Oh, my God.
Okay.
I'm going to get into some of my pre-show notes here.
So, Selena Bowser, right over here.
You describe yourself as a liberal, correct?
Liberal?
I'd say if I were to put a label on it, yeah.
You also consider yourself a feminist?
Yeah.
Okay.
But not like completely, you know.
But like, I could do shit men can do too.
You know?
So what does being a feminist mean to you then, if you're not?
Like, I think we should have equal opportunities.
You know, we shouldn't have like a wage gap or anything like that.
I think we have a wage gap?
We used to.
So then we'd do it whenever we used to.
No, but it all plays into a role.
It's all kind of systematic if you really think about it and really dive down deep into the history of it.
It really is.
Yeah, but so why are you still a feminist and fighting for that today?
I don't fight for it, but there are certain aspects of life where I'll be like, no, no, no, just because I'm a girl doesn't mean I can't do this.
I can do this.
For example.
You know?
Like, for example, like I'm a certified nursing assistant.
I work in bariatric units.
There will be men aides that'll try to do the heavy lifting for the heavy residents and stuff like that.
but they think because I'm a female or because I'm small that I can't do it.
Or do you think that's just potentially them being gentlemen?
Sometimes, yeah, a lot of the time, actually.
But there's a lot of the time, there's a lot of the time where they're just like, oh, you can't do this.
You know, you get that.
You do get that for men a lot.
Yeah, but that's not.
That's not systematic.
That's on a personal level.
That's not systematic.
But that's just one specific incident.
Systematic, meaning like all across the world in all kinds of employments.
Not just employment either, just in general, you know, walking down the street or whatever.
You never know what walking down the street is also not systematic.
Yeah, I actually, like I said, it's decreased a lot.
I get it for being like small.
Like guys asking me, like, if I'm trying to get my water off the shelf, they'll be like, do you want me to get that for you?
But that's being polite.
That's being polite.
There's obviously a difference between the people.
And it's like, it's like every single time.
It's like every time because they doubt that I can lift it.
But you're literally 411.
Can you reach more than the third shelf?
Yeah, it's on the bottom shelf.
She might want to climb.
It's on the bottom.
It's on the bottom shelf.
They're trying to be funny.
I mean, it's just a problem.
No, it's not funny.
It's like they're just like.
But also, even so, that's not systematic whatsoever.
There's going to be horrible people everywhere you go, honestly.
People will treat you, will treat you incorrectly.
And I would say that with the feminism thing, the fact that we've come to a stage right now where you're saying that people want to help you with things and you're saying that people want to help you with things, and that's the opposite of being mean or oppressive.
That's actually men going out of their way to come and be kind to you.
And that's what feminism is.
See, that's where I got misunderstood because I didn't say it was from someone trying to help me, but whenever they do it in a demeaning way, like a degrading way.
Okay, so they're not saying that.
You're trying to act like you're not good enough to be.
Sure, I get what you're saying, but then you would have a personal problem with that specific individual.
That doesn't make you a feminist.
It just means that that person on that specific occasion wasn't nice to you.
Yeah, I wouldn't have to do it.
Maybe I misunderstood that because there's plenty of times where that scenario or similar things has happened.
where I have to hold on I'm still talking but there's been you know many scenarios where that has happened and they were just degrading with it you know So there's obviously, I see that there's a difference between being degraded and being feminism, but also being like, you know, someone being polite to you.
But either way, like whenever you're being degraded, you're going to not want that.
You're going to want to try to stick up for yourself and do what you can do for yourself.
So I wouldn't label yourself as feminist.
I think you're just standing up for yourself.
I don't think you would need to label them.
Yeah.
Like I said, that could have been a mistake because there's plenty of times where I said that, you know, I'm not doing anything wrong.
I'm just sticking up for myself.
And they've been like, oh, you're being a feminist.
You're being a feminist, you know?
Do you think that maybe sometimes it's just more practical for men to do the heavier lifting because men are stronger than women?
Absolutely.
I think that'd be the best thing to do.
And do you think for the most part?
Doing it in a nice way.
Sure.
Do you think for the most part that men are doing all of the heavy lifting in society, all of the jobs that you would never see?
All of the people paving the roads, doing the concreting, doing all of the heavy lifting of the jobs that you would never, ever last five minutes in.
And you never get to see that.
So men doing the heavy lifting in society is 99.9% purely benevolent.
But that also plays into the systematic stuff that I was talking about because a lot of women can't get jobs in construction.
Have you ever tried to be a concrete do?
No, but I totally wouldn't be able to do that.
Why wouldn't you want to be a concrete offer?
I totally would.
I would love to do that.
Okay, why aren't you?
Because I'm not educated on it.
My schooling was for someone.
Why don't you go and get educated on concreting?
Well, right now, my life is a little bit rough, but I totally would.
Like as soon as I get things straightened out, I want a different field.
I'm tired of the magic.
Let me tell you this, and you can disagree with me if you'd like.
You wouldn't last two minutes as a concreteer.
Because unfortunately.
I like to try to prove people wrong.
In the modern world, you can think that all you want.
That's because your life is so comfortable that you can have that strain of thought.
But the fact of the matter is that I did concreting for a few months, and I didn't last.
And I'm not a weak guy.
But these guys are some of the hardest people you'll ever meet in your life.
They are up at the crack of dawn every day, breaking their backs.
You would not last a single day.
You can sit here and say girl power all you'd like.
You wouldn't last a day, I guarantee you.
And I never said girl power.
I just said I'd like to try to get a lot of money.
That's essentially the messaging, though.
You're saying you can do anything.
You can't.
Can you carry anything?
Are you able to carry a 300-pound man out of a burning building?
Wait, say that again?
Are you able to carry a 300-pound man out of a burning building?
I don't know.
I can lift 300-pound men, but I don't think I could carry them out of the building.
That might be a little bit rough, but if I had a freaking wheelchair.
Most firefighters aren't going to have wheelchairs.
I bring one in.
How would you lift that 300-pound man?
Yeah.
What I normally do is you have to grab under their arm.
You have to basically give them a wedgie and pull them up.
You have to use your knees, your legs, your back.
Make sure you don't pull your back out.
There's a very specific way to do it.
Yeah, and that's how many transformers are.
Do you think that you could pick up 210?
210.
He's only 210.
Well, that's 90 pounds less than what I just said.
So if you can't pick him up, then...
Do you want me to pick him up?
Yeah, try to try to get it.
Go for it.
I messed up my mic.
Also, she did say from a burning building.
I did say from a burning building.
And likely he'd be tossed over her shoulder, but.
One, two, three.
So I don't know how.
Okay, watch everything else, but I told you.
210, you go.
Sorry, Joe.
Very impressive.
I would love to see you run up and down some stairs out of a burning building.
The point is, even as a CNA, just because I started way long ago, even as a nurse extern, which was lower than a CNA, you aren't even supposed to use those techniques.
You're supposed to use the machines that they give you now because it's like causing a lot of harm.
That's for people who are scheduled for those lifts.
Like there's people who have a one-person assist and a two-person assist.
And then there's people that are like doctor's notes.
They have to use like a sit-a-stan, a maxi lift.
Yeah, but you were saying the dead weight.
See, if you're a one-person assist or a two-person assist, you're not using dead weight.
You have to do two people or a maxi.
That's what I'm saying.
Like you wouldn't necessarily need to, with a one-person assist, you're not taking dead body weight.
They can use partial limited assistance.
So I think their point is like, would you carry a 300-pound person over your shoulders out of a burning building is much different than lifting, you know.
So I said if I had a wheelchair.
I could get their ass in my wheelchair.
Firefighters.
And get not to have those.
Yeah, but I think the deeper point, though, is that we can debate this all day.
It's just common sense and common knowledge of practicality to know that.
Men are obviously stronger.
Yeah, but women can't do the jobs that men do.
And you have to understand that these are thankless jobs for men because we don't really have much of an app, like a propensity to sit here and say, oh, my life's so hard.
Because if we do that and we sit around saying that our life's hard.
Then people talk crap on you.
No, no, it's not even that.
You'll just never get anywhere in life.
We don't have the luxury of sort of sitting around and complaining on TikTok and then getting attention because we've got a little bit of cleavage out or that sort of thing.
We don't have that privilege.
So men have to get up and go to work and do these jobs.
And then it's actually, and I know that you've got your own opinion about this and that's fine, but it's laughable to hear you say those sorts of things that, oh, I'm a feminist because men want to lift things from me.
If you're just an example of men who have been in the middle of the day, can you win and just have just a few of men do from day in and day out and the sort of trauma that they put their bodies through?
And I guarantee you there'd probably be a thousand men in this chat right now.
I see it.
I can see both sides to the story of like everything.
But of course I'm going to see my side.
More I'm a female.
I got a squat and titties.
Yeah.
I would say that it sounds like you have a personal problem with the individual that did that.
Do you have another example of something that would make you lean towards being a feminist, like nominally?
I'd have to sit there and think about it.
Because being put on the spot, you know, you got to really be like, what's another scenario in my life where this has happened, you know?
Well, I think the point, too, is that women can do, they have the choice to do those jobs.
It's not like you're being prevented from doing those.
If you really true, like he was saying, why don't you do that?
You do have the option to do it.
You can make it out.
It's because the women, most women don't want to, one, and two, most women wouldn't make it doing it.
I wouldn't make it doing it.
Like, it is what it is.
That's what the people hiring the people say.
And that's why they say, no, I'm not hiring you.
You're a girl.
Unless that would be illegal.
I don't know.
I don't know how you can say that.
Oh, you know, they got there, right?
So if you have nothing, maybe there is discrimination.
Yeah, but maybe that's for the best.
I don't know.
Listen, I know that even in the military and law enforcement, women have lower standards to pass tests, like physical fitness tests, than men.
Then why?
I don't think he's going to.
Let me catch you.
My concern is when I send my husband off to work and he, look, I love all the women police officers he works with, but if they have a lower standard and he has back, that's his backup.
Yeah.
That's concerning to me.
That they don't have to run as fast or lift as heavy or be as quick.
Yeah, that's fine.
And that's not fair.
They should have the same standards.
Well, yeah, that's more.
If they had the same standards.
Yeah.
If they had the same standards, it just wouldn't work.
Then you wouldn't see women in a lot of fields that women are trying to pursue and female.
So then why is it okay for that dynamic then?
If you had a business question, wouldn't you hire the best people for your business?
Yeah, absolutely.
But I also am the type of person to, even if you don't seem like you would be good enough, I'd be like, I'll give you a chance.
It's your business that you put a lot of money.
I would probably go under because I just am too nice.
Yeah, I don't like feelings in that regard.
I just want the best of the best to be doing the work.
See, that's what I always say.
You're the best of the best, then you do it.
But if you don't qualify, no, I'm sorry.
You might be a great person.
I feel bad.
I know, but we can't hire.
We hire people based off of our feelings, and that ends in desire.
And that's why men make the better leaders because they take emotion out of decision-making.
They're more logical.
So that's why, like, definitely.
Yeah, I see why you would say that.
Do you think your business would go under?
Do you call yourself a feminist because it's cool?
No.
I don't really give into fads or anything like that.
I don't like that kind of stuff.
When you say you're a feminist, that means feminism is.
I want to say feminist, but I have feminist attributes where I'm like, I can do this.
I'm acting like I'm a girl.
When you say feminism, feminism is a very radical social and political movement that's basically changed the entire way that we operate as a Western society.
So it's something to maybe not be taken so lightly.
Just in future, if you do want to call yourself a feminist, and you said that you've looked back into the history of it, it's actually a very dark and malicious history of feminism.
And there's lots of occultism that's going on.
Rachel Wilson's got a great book on this culture.
Is that I didn't hear about really?
What's the book?
It's called Occult Feminism.
And it takes you all the way back to as far as the Sumerian cultures and how they used to worship all of these female gods.
And I can't remember what the gods called.
Maybe Nick can look it up for me, the Sumerian god, the feminine god that they used to, Ishtar, I think it's something like that, Nick?
I think you're right.
I have heard that.
Yeah, and then there's even a story, and this is the most female thing I've ever heard, but Ishtar is scorned by Gilgamesh because Gilgamesh rejects her.
And these are mythical figures back in Sumeria.
And then Ishtar sends the heavenly bull to come and kill Gilgamesh and kills one of his friends.
And then this is where you get the theory of the saying, hell hath no fury, like a woman scorned.
And this is when, obviously, males and females both have their own inclination towards evil and towards darkness.
But the feminine evil is something that's very much harnessed within this political and social movement.
That's very interesting.
I'm definitely going to read that book.
Yeah, that's a fantastic book.
That, and also because your examples were very personally anecdotal.
Have women ever been rude to you before?
Because you seem to be tired.
Yeah, so.
Of course, but not in that kind of a way, like, I can do this better than you because I have a pecker.
Brilliant.
Yeah.
Not in that gone away.
I find it really, really difficult to believe that there's been multiple men that have just simply degraded you on that personal level in the way that you're explaining it.
Like I only have to consider it.
That's fine.
Okay.
I don't know what to say to that.
Yeah.
Now I'd recommend you look into it a little bit more.
Do you have a religious faith at all?
Or are you more of like a spiritually leaning type person?
I believe in God and Jesus.
I actually just got real super serious about it.
Like I quit doing OnlyFans and stuff like that.
That's good to hear.
Yeah.
So when you say you believe in God and Jesus, do you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior?
Do you believe that Jesus was who he says he was?
Absolutely.
I just don't label it under any kind of religion.
Are you going to church?
Are you involved in a I listen to Jesse Duplantis every day?
I don't know if you guys heard of him.
A few.
Yeah, that's great.
But one thing I would say is that if you are leaning towards Christianity, and if that's something that you do want to direct your life towards, feminism is deeply anti-Christian.
The whole idea of feminism is basically to destroy and dismantle all of the institutions that have built our world through thousands of years of trial and error.
And there's lots of good quotes, and maybe Nick could even pull this up as well, but from 20th century feminists.
And they explicitly say that the whole idea of feminism is to destroy the nuclear family.
That is the revolution, because they believe that women are oppressed by the nuclear family.
And they believe that children are actually standing in the way of women from achieving this sort of utopian liberation.
So if you do lean towards Christianity, then I would really strongly reject feminism.
If I were you, I wouldn't reject it.
I'll definitely look into it and educate myself on it.
I wouldn't reject having self-respect, or I wouldn't respect wanting to be the best version of yourself that you could possibly be.
But feminism as an ideology, very dark.
Definitely going to look into that.
Seems very interesting to look into.
I never heard of it in a dark sense like that.
I'll send you some links.
Yeah.
What a healthy debate.
Getting back to some of the pre-show notes here.
Let's see.
I'm going to go jump right to Victoria.
Victoria, you were a former Cam Girl, is that correct?
Yeah, before it was OF, OF didn't exist yet.
Okay.
And you're 34, is that correct?
Yeah.
From what age to what age were you involved with?
Oh, I barely did it for a month.
I hated it.
I absolutely hated it.
Yeah, and I think it's extremely detrimental.
Extremely detrimental.
How did it impact your marriage, if you don't mind me asking?
Obviously, I did it with the support of my husband because I wasn't going to do it behind his back.
And he didn't seem to care much as long as it was, because it had settings so that it wasn't anyone in Pennsylvania where we live, so that he knew that nothing was going to happen.
But he just didn't seem to have an opinion, like didn't care that it didn't bother him at all.
Okay.
In the pre-show notes that you provided here, you said that you have three baby daddies.
I do.
Oh.
Okay.
I know.
How many kids do you have?
Three.
Three.
Oh, from three.
And I'm assuming one of them is with the guy you're currently married to.
Yes.
Are the others in the picture?
Yes, they are.
I had one really young.
I was a co-parent?
Yeah, I co-parent with each of them.
And I had one really young, and then I was married, and we planned one, and then we were separated, and I ended up pregnant.
Okay.
Yeah.
So both the two kids that were parented by the other men that aren't your husband were prior to your current marriage, correct?
No, unfortunately, one was before and then one was after I got it.
Oh, wait, so just to be clear, okay, so you had one child, then you met your now husband.
You had a kid with him, and then you had a kid with another man.
Right, I was separated from your current current husband.
Okay.
then I got pregnant okay so kid with okay so that you had a kid with one guy met your husband Husband.
Kid with husband.
Separated from husband.
Had a kid with another man.
Had a kid with another man.
Back with husband.
Yes.
Okay, I see.
All right.
And was he an issue for him?
He has been raising my youngest pretty much as his dad too.
And so he's a really, really good dad, an amazing dad, actually.
And yeah.
Okay.
Who's initiating most of the breakups?
In the beginning, it was him.
And then recently it was me.
Sure.
What makes you want to initiate?
What is it in particular?
Is it just a moment of blind rage?
No, it's not like that.
We are recovering addicts.
And so we struggle sometimes.
And there are times that we need to separate for our own health and safety.
Can I have you scoot your mic to the edge of the table?
Yeah.
Keep going a little bit.
Perfect.
Okay.
Continue.
Go ahead.
And so, yeah, just for our health and safety, we have needed to separate.
And so we were separated, and I started seeing somebody.
I'd like to hear the nurse's takes on this above my pay grade.
Yeah.
About for what part?
The addicts part.
I empathize.
I can't imagine how hard that is.
Do you have you relapsed or has he relapsed?
Like, is that a common issue?
It's not super common, but it happens.
And one of the times was because of that.
Yeah.
Do you guys do like meetings or how do you stay clean?
I'm actually currently going to a methadone clinic.
And so that's how I stay clean.
And he is on Suboxone, and he's just been trying to stay clean, but he was recently, he had a recent relapse.
And so.
Do you ever think about what it would be like maybe, I mean, I know this might be hard because considering you have children together, but maybe it's just not a great situation in general to stay together.
Like maybe you need a partner that can empathize with you but is healthy and doesn't struggle with these same exact issues.
That's vices.
That's certainly something that I've thought of and one of the reasons that we've separated.
If it makes you feel better, I was I was actually raised by a single mom with three brothers who was a drug addict as well.
So, yeah, so my dad left when I was eight, and my mom was addicted to drugs and alcohol.
And we were homeless at one point.
We're in a women's refuge at one point.
We had no money, like nothing.
So, yeah, I know what your kids would feel like.
It's not fun, but you know, like we got through it.
But yeah, you're not the only person who's had this sort of struggle.
I had to.
I think part of it too is I wonder, I mean, of course, for your health and your husband's or ex-husbands, but also the children, like the constant rotation of breaking up, getting back together, relapsing, and going, you know, getting clean.
That ultimately, I think a lot of the attention is put on your sobriety and your partner's sobriety, and then the kids have to adapt through that.
That becomes very difficult.
So, just wondering if a better situation would be with a healthy person.
That's definitely something I've been thinking about myself.
Now, you said that you would like to discuss how being a cam girl destroyed your self-esteem, how promiscuity has become so mainstream that it's destroying the dating world.
You'd like to talk about how your own personal promiscuity has brought nothing but negativity into your life and that you don't want this for other young women.
Yes, I mean, that's basically my story.
It's like a cautionary tale to, you know, avoid the things that I have done.
And so, like, I guess as providing an example, when you say your own personal promiscuity, what was the scope of the promiscuity?
Well, just the fact that I got separated and had another baby.
Like, I was obviously sleeping with somebody else.
I wasn't sleeping with a lot of people, but promiscuity itself just destroyed my self-esteem whenever I was younger because I went through so many different men because I was a single mom and looking for a partner, you know, and it was hard.
And then I slept through so many different men and it was just detrimental.
Sure.
Okay.
Actually, I have more notes here from you, but actually, one thing I'd like to do is we try to, well, we're already an hour into the show.
Try to start with where people potentially disagree.
So, for those of you who have seen the show, if anybody has any disagreements that you've heard from me, heard from Jake, that any of you want to bring up, I'd happy to start there first.
I disagree with your wardrobe, Brian.
I actually enjoy the black.
I do like the whatever black sweatshirt.
But I do disagree with that.
Anything constructive?
Yes, your opinion about circumcisions, I highly disagree with.
I honestly wish they weren't.
What's your opinion on circumcision?
Circumcisions.
Yeah, he's against circumcision.
Sure, we can.
I prefer to call it male genital mutilation.
Honestly, I get where you're coming from.
Literally, because when they do that to women, it's called female genital mutilation.
So I think it's a good idea.
Women don't get circumcisions, but I think they do in other countries.
Ultimately, what are your, or why are you in favor of circumcision?
Circumcisions help with lowering risk of penile cancer, help lowering risk of STDs.
It doesn't.
Yes, no, no, it doesn't.
It helps lowering risk of data.
Maybe in America.
It means STDs.
No, it does.
It does.
Maybe in America.
Yeah, in America.
Yes, it does.
We're like the only country where you can.
Can we get your opinion?
Your opinion?
That would be better versus the market.
So it is, yeah, it slightly decreases the risk of penile cancer, certain STIs, and UTIs in men.
Also, it's a little bit like, I mean, I'm just speaking from men I know, like as they got older and thought, and they thought, like, oh, if I wouldn't have been circumcised, I feel like a lot of women would have looked and been like, what the heck is that?
Like a job.
A lot of guys, you know, drunk, you know.
Yeah, oh my God, that's just the way it looks, though.
But like health wise.
Can you either fix your posture or something?
Yeah, health-wise, that is accurate information.
Because it is.
Hold on.
Go ahead.
Well, so let me just.
So there were two claims there.
There's the cancer claim, the STD claim.
The STD claim.
No.
UTI, no, not really, but I mean, well, maybe, but the STD one potentially even makes sense intuitively.
However, the cancer one seems dubious.
It's a very decreased risk, but it is.
You can look it up.
Also, the UTI is looking the force.
People don't do proper hygiene and they don't retract.
So let's clean up.
Let's ST topics.
Let's talk about a minute.
So it is extremely uncommon for a man to get a UTI.
Let's also talk about it.
Uncommon for a man to get a UTI.
It's uncommon.
And if a man has a UTI, there's something else wrong.
It is not just an infection.
Like a cancer.
It is more than that.
When a man has a UTI, there's something else wrong because the urethra is longer, and therefore, when they pee, and even, so let's talk about men and women.
When women get UTIs, we get them more frequently because our urethra is shorter.
We also have a vagina.
So there's, you know, yeast.
There's a big difference between men and women getting UTIs.
No, so the issue is you're probably referring to circumcised men when I'm saying I know their urethra length of their urethra.
My point is when a male is uncircumcised, bacteria gets under the foreskin.
Bacteria gets under the foreskin.
So it gets caught in there and it travels upward because people don't know the proper way and they don't retract the foreskin.
They wouldn't ask you how to properly.
Well, this is, I'm just telling him why it is beneficial to get.
And it takes off so many nerve endings and it's just not proper.
Like in other countries, they don't do the circumcision.
I don't really much care about other countries.
They're fine.
They're not dying of cancer in AIDS.
I have a question though.
So, for example, if we were, hold on, stop.
If we were to compare, let's say there was a procedure that removed women's breasts.
Well, I guess you can't remove their breasts at birth.
But if there was a procedure that after one, stop.
Let's say there's a procedure after women went through puberty that removed their breasts.
Would there be evidence of decreased risk of breast cancer in those women if we removed their breasts?
Yes.
Well, would that justify the removal of women's breasts to prevent cancer?
For adjusting case, I guess it depends on how important you find breasts.
I had two breast reductions, so they really aren't important to me.
There are plenty of women that do remove breasts.
I realize circumcision is done on a mass scale here in the United States, other countries, well, a few other countries.
So it's not clear to me because there is, and perhaps this is just a correlation, it's not clear to me if the decreased risk of cancer is enough pretext to warrant mutilating a child's genitals.
Sure, I understand what you're saying.
I don't think the cancer part is that massive because, like I said, it's a very small reduction.
But the infection is a major benefit of getting a circumcision.
Because, like I said, bacteria does get stuck under the foreskin.
That's so is there just like because I believe in Europe there's not a bunch of circumcision.
Is there just like rampant STI, like UTIs for men in Europe?
I imagine the education is probably way better than it is here in the U.S. because again, circumcision is so baseline here.
But also, I've heard people say in the show that later on you should leave it up to the men, a male, when he's a teenager, whatever.
If he wants to get that done, he can make the decision.
Well, that recovery is going to be a heck of a lot different than when you're an infant and you don't reproduce those memories.
You don't remember those things.
So it's a larger surface area as well.
Or your wife or whoever's dating you should just accept your penis the way it is and like your circumcised or uncircumcised dick.
But like most uncircumcised dicks are like that's a they're not mutilated.
They're not mutilated.
If we stick to the medical discussion of it.
So let me just actually, let's just, I'll just, you know, there could be some debate over whether, you know, what you're saying is actually true, if there is a decreased risk of cancer, if, you know, with the UTIs thing, I'll just seed it and say, sure, fine.
However, there's also cases where men do get circumcised and it gets botched.
Sure.
So there is a, while it might have some corresponding positive medical benefits of circumcision, there's also corresponding negative outcomes to circumcision.
There can be nerve damage.
There can be damage to the glands.
There can be, there's cases where the entire penis has to be removed.
There's been cases of that.
And then that's absolutely catastrophic.
So, yeah, and then, I mean, there's also the consideration of, well, does inflicting, you know, could this be actually mentally damaging, you know, psychologically young babies?
Do you think they re they so?
Normally you don't reproduce memories or you can't.
So do you think, if you like, for like a period of the first year of a child's life if, like the parents, were just like beating the child, it wouldn't have any impact on the child at all, they just forget it?
Well, I think that would have.
I don't, I don't know that they would remember it.
But if it depends if they would cause legitimate medical issues, if they slammed their head or shook their baby, then of course that causes specific medical and neurological conditions.
But yeah, I'm not sure wouldn't there be a just like a stress response though that the child would have that would give it some sort of trauma.
Sure, I don't think a one-time circumcision would do that.
But if, if it, but if it is a very painful procedure though, if it is a very painful, they give things, like you know, little anesthetics in babies.
We can use glucose water, just like little sugar can be used as an anesthetic in a baby, and so they give them that.
And did you ever notice that after a circumstances now I have two boys, both have had circumcisions.
Sorry boys, but you know I either way did you ever notice that after the procedure, within an hour or two, they don't cry anymore.
There's no pain, they don't there's, it's just it.
They don't.
You don't, even even when you're cleansing the area.
Um, there's no response.
Just, i'm actually totally indifferent on this.
I didn't really have an opinion on this, but I was actually really enjoying watching you two go back and forth seems like you're jumping at the bit to say something over here.
Yeah um, I want to kind of piggyback off of what Brian was saying, just because they don't feel it and we don't know that they feel it.
Is it actually?
Well, they do feel it's still okay, like he's saying.
I mean, you could punch your kid in the head, and then they do feel it.
I think you're talking about yeah, you're talking about two different types of traumas.
Um, you can go ahead.
Yeah, I just want to point out like that the argument that you're using is the same argument that pro-abortionists use, where they say, well, you can kill the kid, because the kid can't remember.
So it's the same argument where you say, can you chop his kids?
Same argument, the kid can't remember, so we can chop its dick off, but the kid can't remember, so we can.
No, they wouldn't have a life.
They wouldn't have a life if you aborted a child.
They can't be still doing something to them without their consent.
That's what i'm saying.
Yes okay, go ahead.
Also, another thing to consider is that man's gonna grow up.
That boy is gonna grow up.
It is statistics that wet men with foreskin do have.
It's more sensitive, it's more enjoyable.
Good point, so yeah, you know you're making a decision for your sons and they about their future sexual lives.
Yeah, they have no say in.
I had a friend as a kid who got circumcised when he was a little baby and they screwed it up and his penis never grew.
Oh my gosh.
I've never heard that.
That's crazy.
So here's micro penis.
So here's a micropenis.
So I just googled this from Boston.
Hold on.
Guys, stop.
I just Googled this from Boston Children's Hospital.
The reported surgical complication rate, while low, is between 2 to 3%.
So, you know, you can debate whether that's significant, but I mean, if there's hundreds of thousands of, I don't know how many, how many per year, whatever.
But I mean, that ends up being a lot of men who they're botched circumcision.
Sure.
I also think, I think a lot of men are circumcised.
And to your point, I really don't think that they're complaining of their issues being pleasured.
So it might be more, but if you never have, it's like a virgin marrying another virgin on their wedding, like and only having sex on their wedding night.
They don't know what else is out there.
So that is the best they're going to have.
So if somebody is circumcised and has sexual relations, that is just what they think is normal, you know?
And so I don't think that's really a great argument.
That kind of sucks, though.
I'd rather.
Right, but again, you're talking about me.
And if I could have more pleasure, I'd take it.
Right, but the thing is, it's taking away an opportunity that they don't even know about.
Well, if they want to take on that opportunity later in life, it's going to be a real hell of a problem.
It's going to be a really bad recovery.
It's going to be much more painful.
They're definitely going to have memories about it.
I actually had another friend.
We don't have a lot of friends.
That's going to be concerning.
Once again, just asking for a friend.
I had another friend who got the procedure done at 14 years old.
But that was only because this guy's in a different, different boat.
His penis grew to the point where it stretched it.
So he had to get it cut off.
Yeah, so all the problems in the way.
And then my friend Liam was born with it.
Liam was born with a condition called penis minutis.
That which is inverted, let's be real.
With an any.
So, no, yeah, there's always going to be risks.
Of course, I don't know, and I haven't looked into this, but the risks of getting a circumcision later on in life, I don't know what that is.
If that's a higher risk for something like that, he was a 14-year-old that couldn't do anything with it for three months.
But I mean, is what, like, look, there's a bunch of countries where they don't do this procedure.
And is there just like catastrophic, like this catastrophe for men upon, like, no.
No, they're fine.
They didn't get circumcised.
They're fine.
Like I said, I think you have to, it's a lot of different components.
It's not like in medical care, you can just say, oh, well, in other countries, they don't have circumcisions and it's all fine.
So if we did the same thing, it would all be fine.
There's a lot that we would have to change in terms of our education.
The amount of education nurses have to do with patients and families is incredible.
There's barely enough time to get it done.
And then the patients don't even follow that anyway half the time.
So it just depends.
But yeah, if the education was better.
Hold on.
But so you're saying that because wouldn't it be like a five minute five minutes of instruction?
So it's worth chopping off boys' foreskin without their informed consent because it would be labor for the nurses to instruct them or for the parents to Google.
There's no labor issue.
There's a compliance issue.
You can tell a patient to take a pill twice a day and they still don't do it.
It just happens that way.
Well, don't we instruct like I want one.
Oh, yeah, can I have one more?
Can I have one?
Hold on.
Can I have one more?
See.
But anyways, yeah, I see your point.
Either way.
This is just my one little thing.
So I have three boys and they actually, two of them were born with something called a hypospadius.
Yes.
And they actually needed to use the foreskin to properly fix their penises so that it would look.
Did you describe what that is, though?
It's when the urethral meatus, the opening for where the urine comes out is too low, so it points downward.
Yeah.
And so they actually like form the hole at the tip whenever they do the surgery.
And you had to wait.
I had to wait till they were six months old, one of six months when I was like a year.
And there definitely was a lot more recovery than my middle son who was newborn and got it done.
But the reason why I chose it personally was more of a societal thing and because I personally had an experience with a man who his foreskin was adhered to his penis.
I think people are forgetting that that does happen.
Yeah, and it was so painful that the baby couldn't perform.
The foreskin can be adhered to the tip of the penis, meaning they can't retract it back.
It's extremely painful.
Why does that happen?
Like, what causes it?
Just congenital care.
Yeah.
Not proper care.
That too.
That too.
I mean, yeah, like I said, you have to, it's a specific way of having to, like, hygienic practices.
But if you're consistently pulling it back and cleaning it, it's not going to be a good thing.
So he must have been jagging off a lot.
Okay, I don't think so, but no, probably not.
It's probably the ultimate thing to do with anything.
Ultimately, I just don't think that.
You jacked his stick wrong.
That's enough.
Ultimately, I just don't think that it's worth the trade-off.
Okay.
And also, I mean, look, I don't dispute that, for example, like if you do want to or opt to get the procedure when you're an adult, it's probably going to be a bit more painful.
Like, you're going to obviously remember it.
But I would be curious to know what is the percentages of adults who didn't get a circumcision as a child who then opt to get a circumcision because there's, not for aesthetic reasons, though.
I don't think that's valid.
But if there's like, I think the thing you, like, there's something, there's painful erection or whatever it may be, compared to the amount of, like, you know, just the baseline of babies who are getting circumcised, what the complication, like the comparative complications are there.
So I don't know.
Foreskin hat donated $200.
The benefits are irrelevant.
Yeah, it should be a good idea.
It should be acting a man as he becomes an adult.
Shout out to the investigator.
What is his name, though?
Lovely jacked and grew my sweet meat by two inches.
Uncircumcised.
Fuck.
Myron.
Where's that?
I love that.
Foreskin hat.
Duh.
Duh.
Oh, my God.
That's the best.
We do have a chat here from Desert Joe coming in in just a second.
Recurring question in the chat for Jake and Priya.
Anything to share since Sunday show?
Not asking like kiss and tell gossip, just nothing.
There's clearly a wholesome.
Priya wasn't here on Sunday.
Yeah, I wasn't here on that.
That was that other girl, but she was trying to touch Jake's arm like every moment of the show was so distracting.
She would purposely put her arm out here closer and closer.
I was just like.
Canada One SD donated $200.
Sorry to interrupt, love you, Brian, but question for the high ginger chick next to pink hair.
Is there any tread left on the tires at all?
Or is like throwing a hot dog down a hallway nice beard, Brian?
Thank you, man.
No, I've been told that my pussy's pretty tight.
Excuse me?
Yeah, it's pretty tight.
Thank you for sharing.
Appreciate it.
I'm just answering the question.
Did you want to address the previous chat?
With Priya?
No, he's talking about the Alexa.
Alexa, yeah.
Oh, no.
No, nothing to report.
No.
Okay.
There's your answer.
All the girls like Jake, though.
They all, you know.
Every time you're on the show, the girl who's sitting over here, they're always like, oh, Jake and the girl.
I've been under the table the whole time.
He's been literally running myself.
He's been running my legs on the bottom.
I think Ryan has the biggest crush on Jake of them all, honestly.
There's something about this.
There's a magnetism.
We're getting really close.
No one can change my volume.
It's the snuggle session.
It's definitely true.
All right.
Thank you guys.
Appreciate it.
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We're going to go around the table.
Stiffler has a question here.
Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten, starting with you.
Go ahead.
I think I'm pretty cute.
I'd say I'm a 10.
Okay.
What about you?
Like maybe like a five.
A seven?
Like a three?
I guess six, six and a half.
Yeah, I would say six, six and a half.
Six and a half or seven?
Go six, but eight with a few B's, maybe?
I'll go a seven.
Okay, give myself a five.
So we have only one ten at the table.
One ten at the table.
Do you want to change your answer now that you've heard somebody?
I've marched to the beat of my own drum.
But what is everybody else marched to?
Nicolo, the oldest.
Court the strong assistant.
No, I really want to.
Hold on, hold on.
Stop.
Chilly attracted to intelligence.
She'd rate herself a zero.
That's me, but you could keep talking shit.
Only if they know me, they would know they were wrong.
Well, what?
He's talking about me, though.
Oh.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know you.
Because I'm stoned.
By the way, hold on.
Actually, I do actually want to address this.
So, like, are you sure not anything else?
Yeah, I'm just stoned.
And I honestly got to say.
I got something in my head.
Bro, I don't want to look at your fucking eye.
You put that shit away.
No, I swear.
That's fucking disgusting.
That's fine.
I'm really not in anything else.
This is just.
Do you think you could have done this sober?
Like, we do typically prefer people who are sober.
We don't serve alcohol to anybody.
You guys have white claws in the fridge.
Does anybody here have a white claws in the fridge?
She offered it.
Yeah, she offered it.
Who did?
Madison.
Yeah.
But you asked, though, didn't you?
No, that was me.
I did.
Yep.
But, oh, did you offer it or no?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
Well, you haven't had any, correct?
No.
I've really just like.
We don't offer people alcohol.
I know.
I'm not on drugs.
This is just my personality.
But honestly, like, at the end of the day, like, you said you're on edibles.
So I need other substances.
Well, I mean, couldn't you, like, just not do that knowing you're coming on the podcast?
Yeah.
But I would still act this way.
I'd probably act worse, though.
You'd act worse.
Yeah.
A bold statement.
Because I'm more hyper.
You're 26.
Much, much hyper.
26.
Yeah.
Are you just unable to maneuver through life without?
Yeah, how do you, how do you.
I like marijuana.
Oh my god, you smell it.
Okay.
I do.
Oh, I guess.
Yeah, sure.
I smoke like a lot of marijuana.
I get that you like it, but don't you think that that's a character defect?
Yeah.
No.
Don't you think that could be an addiction?
No.
Of course not.
Do you think that everyone in California that smokes weed is an addict?
Yes.
Wow.
I don't know if they're an addict, but.
As somebody who used to be addicted to it myself, it is very, very addictive.
Yeah.
I used to smoke every day.
Don't tell the customs.
I'm actually joking.
I'm speaking about a friend again.
Yeah, a friend of mine who used to do it every day.
It is a very, very addictive thing.
And actually, it kills your anti-I call it the great killer of human ambition.
There are some people who can be somewhat functional, but I find that those people are very productive in other areas of life.
But most of the time when people are smoking every day, it's because they're trying to hide from something.
They're trying to hide.
Not necessarily.
They're just trying to escape their own consciousness.
Not really.
Not necessarily.
Just try to doll the natural emotions.
But that's okay.
Is that how you feel about alcohol too?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
I can't remember.
When people go to a bar, and I'm guilty of this as well, sometimes you feel a bit anxious.
Do you drink?
Do you drink?
He's just talking alcohol.
I drink sometimes.
Okay, how often do you drink alcohol?
Once a month, maybe, if that.
Once a month.
Well, I think that's, my husband and I were just talking about this.
I think that's kind of, it's not, it's not.
It is.
Marijuana.
I think that in general, you know, you can go to a bar, you can have one drink at night, you know, but I think a lot of wine after your kids go to, okay, irrelevant, but I think overall, a lot of people are smoking throughout the day, um, marijuana, you know, you, you came here, it's not even dinner time and you obviously are already stoned, as you said.
So it's not like people that were drinking alcohol all day long, too.
Yes, that's called an addiction or a problem.
So I would compare it comparatively.
I think it's not.
Can I actually ask a question?
Yep.
Are you worried about looking back at this and seeing the way you're conducting yourself?
Like, does that not really mind?
No, because this is just who I am.
Is this how much marijuana you consume on a regular basis?
I consume like 10 grams a day.
I have no idea what I smoke.
I don't know.
It's like I smoke 10 joints a day.
So you quite literally are a lot of people.
Oh, cassava.
That's a lot.
That's half a bad.
I'm a weed addict.
So I think, too, I notice a lot.
Now, again, I'm from Pennsylvania, so this state is so new to me.
Seth Green, yeah, I saw that.
But I think over time, even I see that I see it myself.
Like over time, when people are doing this day after day after day, they eventually start to get slow.
And you're talking to them and you're like delayed responses, slurred speech, slower, just can't react the same.
So I think over time, it really kills off a lot of brain cells.
I think that plays for certain people, but not for everybody.
I've been smoking all day, every day, consistently since I was 14 years old.
I'm 31 now.
What's feminism and smoking pot got to do with you to do?
Oh, I'll say it's a mental illness in a way being a feminist.
No, it's not sure.
But like, I'm not slow.
I'm pretty quick-witted, you know, I'm not like edibles.
And my eyes are a little bit puppy from having something get in it.
I think that's it.
Yeah, it wasn't calm either.
You don't have to say that.
Yeah, no, we didn't need that.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I think I was going to say that.
Sorry, glossing around.
I just lost my train of thought.
Oh, I think people have to be aware, too, of like cannabis-induced psychosis.
If you've never heard of that, that can be from medical marijuana as well as regular street marijuana.
And it's been happening increasingly, actually, nationwide.
So it's just something to be aware of.
If you have a disposition towards it, definitely, definitely don't do it.
Yes.
Even if you have depression, you can go into a cannabis-induced psychosis.
And let me just tell you, I worked in the psych hospital in a schizophrenia and bipolar unit for the last three years, and it isn't pretty.
These people sometimes don't ever come out of it, and it's becoming more prevalent.
From marijuana?
From marijuana.
I've had three people that have been institutionalized.
Is it from street marijuana?
No.
Is that just very rare, though?
No, it's not very rare.
No, you have a 50% chance every time you consume cannabis.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, why don't you just get it?
How much?
Can you look it up?
Yeah, historically there for three years.
I've heard about this.
Well, you know, there was just a famous case where the girl from 2018 was given her sentence of only two years probation, which is absolutely absurd for whatever.
I don't even know.
Have you ever brutalized for brutalizing her boyfriend?
Do you have your smoke pot?
I have no desire to.
I don't think anybody should be in my lungs.
Wait, what?
Did I do that?
Somehow I think I'll manage.
But she brutalized, meaning stabbed her boyfriend in the face 1800.
Because of pot.
Okay, honey.
Are you sure it wasn't laced with PCP or something?
No.
No, they test.
We do drug tests and there was nothing else in her system.
That's very common.
THC, they'll pop positive for and nothing else.
So anyways, moving back to so, okay, we're talking about the rating thing.
So you said you rated yourself a 10 out of 10 in terms of physical appearance.
Do you think, like, so that's your own self-assessment?
What do you think?
Like, is that that's how I feel about myself.
I don't know about anybody else.
What do you think other people would rate you on average?
I guess it depends on the eyes that are seeing me.
Let's just say like some people will be like, ooh, she's ugly.
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm saying, oh my god, she's really pretty.
So it just depends on the person.
I'm saying an average, though.
Like, if you had to average it.
I'd say if we were to average it, the best way to do that is a five.
Not that you're average, but like 100,000 men.
Because if I were to add up, you know, their ratings and then divide by how many people, that's an average.
Wait, no, I'm saying what would be the average of the people, like if 100,000 people were to rate you.
Yeah, the average would be five.
Yeah, probably.
Okay.
All right.
Well, that's a bit more fair.
So then why, why, if that's the assessment of what you think other people would rate you, why is there such a large discrepancy?
Because I recently went through a lot and I used to feel really ugly and disgusting.
And now that I don't feel that way, I'm like, I'm cute.
Like, I'm a 10.
I don't care.
So I don't think this has anything, well, the ratings per se don't necessarily have any sort of attestament to your self-esteem and your confidence.
You can be perfectly confident and also be realistic on your physical appearance.
And I feel like I'm doing both.
You know, confident and being realistic on my own view of myself.
Other people's views, that's different.
But me personally, that's how I see myself.
I think you're a 10.
Thanks.
I think you two are too.
And you're just scared to say it because you don't want to sound cocky.
No, it's nothing to do with it.
I genuinely know I'm not a 10, and I'm okay with that.
I'm 32 years old.
What makes a person a 10?
Why don't they?
The most beautiful woman in the world is a 10.
They're not in America.
Okay, well, I'm just not unrealistic.
I've always been a realist.
I just know it.
It isn't it.
I'm not.
I don't think there's any tens.
Yeah, and beauty tends to operate on a bell curve as well.
And rating women by the way, it's best if you don't talk when I'm talking.
So if it operates on a bell curve, generally the majority of the population, 80 to 90% of the population, will generally sit between the four and seven time mark.
But then on the very outskirts, you've got your nines and tens, which is when Halle Berry was the most beautiful woman in the world, for example, she might have been something like a 10.
I think that Rihanna in Ponderiplay back in the day was a 10.
That was my childhood crush.
But yeah, these are what 10s are in 10.
I don't know.
Don't ruin it for me.
We'll say 9.
We'll say 9.
But yeah, generally it's measured on a scale as well.
You know, symmetry of the face and the shape of the eyes and the shape of the jaw and then obviously bottle.
Like, most women do not even have the ability to be a 10, even if they got surgery.
Because they have to have a big butt or just a perfect butt.
Well, they'd probably have a pretty nice butt if they're a 10.
Like a juicy butt.
Well, if, yeah, I mean, when you can't.
I think on the universal standards, it would probably be more of like a cute butt.
A cute butt.
Yeah.
Think Victoria's Secret supermodels.
I got you.
Think how cute their bums are.
So do they have to be really skinny and like barf all the time?
I would say that they would have to have a low body fat percentage for that.
Like they have to be lean.
Yeah, lean.
Definitely.
Definitely.
But if they're anorexic, then that's not a drug.
Oh, that's different.
Obviously.
But if they keep themselves in good shape and if they look healthy, if they look, you know, virile and feminine, then absolutely.
Have you ever watched the Victoria Secret documentary?
No, but I definitely.
You definitely should.
Some cute bums in there.
No, you should have girls how to go through.
I haven't.
I can't.
Yeah, right.
Okay.
You risk it for greatness.
I mean, as far as the whole 10 thing, not going to rate you, but you're not a 10.
Well, that's how you feel.
Like I said, it's about how I feel.
I don't know how you guys see me, but I see me better than that.
Yeah, but so where does, and the reason I push back on this on the worldview, where does your delusion start interfering with your ability to find a partner?
Well, I wasn't ever really looking for a partner whenever I went single last year.
I was with two people consistently for 15 years, so I just wanted to be single.
You were with two people?
Not together at the same time.
So from 16 to 20, I was with someone for four years, and from 20 to 30, I was with someone for 10.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
But I wouldn't really call it a delusion.
It's just how I see myself.
I see myself in a confident, positive light now.
Okay.
And I like it.
I have a question for you.
If I sat here.
Can I ask you?
I mean, I'm actually fine for you to rate me.
Do you think I'm a 10?
In my personal opinion, no.
That's totally fine.
I don't think I'm a 10 either.
But so you.
I'm trying to remember what I'm saying.
That's my opinion.
Someone else might see you as a 10.
So, but you say you're a 10 essentially as saying that you have nothing about yourself that you can improve on.
Physical, I mean, I would probably get bigger boobs, maybe a smaller nose, but I am like Indian, so.
So we're down to a nine?
We're down to a nine, maybe now.
Well, I mean, if you want to, if you want to chop it down like that, yeah.
I guess so, huh?
Well, it's interesting, though.
Like, do you think all women are tens?
It depends on how they see themselves.
I don't personally, but that's my opinion.
Like, of course, we all think some people are attractive, some aren't.
Yeah.
Wait, but so, actually, I don't know if that was the right call, but scooch mine.
Yeah, now you need to move it.
Now you got to move it back.
Okay.
Well, so why are you able to hold the position that your own self-assessment of yourself is your 10, but you just don't blanket give every single woman.
Like, why are you able to analyze a woman's face and determine, well, she's not a 10.
She's a nine or eight.
But when it comes to your own self-perception, it's a 10.
Because it's how you see people.
Opinions are like assholes.
Everyone has one.
Yeah.
No, but it seems to me that you can do an analysis of someone's attractiveness, attractiveness, and beauty.
You're able to do it with me, for example.
You said I was, I think you said five or whatever.
I didn't give a number.
Oh, you didn't give a number, but you said I'm not a 10, right?
So you were able to assess that I'm not a 10.
It sounds like you're able to assess other women aren't a 10.
So if you're able to make determinations based on how their face looks, their body looks, why are you incapable of doing that for yourself?
I think I do.
Am I a 10?
Do you think I am?
You're like a 15.
You are fine, girl.
You're fine.
Okay.
Also, just from the male perspective as well, I know that girls often do this because they say, oh, I'm confident.
I'm confident in myself.
I'm a 10.
It's very unattractive from a guy's perspective.
Just from my perspective, for example, generally, I think that one of the most attractive things about a woman is when she knows how to project love outwards.
And when you have this constant self-aggrandizement of I'm a 10, I'm this, I'm that, and it's this self-centeredness, that's actually quite unattractive because we really like a woman who knows how to nurture and love and give and give rather than just focusing on the self too much.
Well, that makes sense whenever someone's being cocky about it versus being like humble or you know, just being genuinely honest how they feel.
Yeah, humility is an important quality.
Well, she was asked too.
Yeah.
Well, modesty is always related to femininity.
I was asked and I was genuine about my honest opinion.
Okay.
So do you think you're on par with the most beautiful women in the world then?
No, because the most beautiful women in the world on a scale of one to ten are like 30s, 50s.
They pass the scale.
I mean, that's not really how math works.
On a scale of one to 10, 10 would be absolute max.
Max.
So you're 30 is literally the time.
I'm not a 30.
Like, if on a scale of 1 to 10, I'm a 10.
On a scale 1 to 10, she's not a 10.
If anybody wanted a textbook definition of what it means to move the goalposts.
Yeah.
So it has to be 1 to 10 only.
1 to 10 only.
Move the whole field.
10 is maximum most beautiful woman you've ever seen in your life.
100th percentile is what it is.
Well, that's not the way I was looking at it.
So even 30 out of 30 is also 30 out of 30 is a little high.
I cannot understand how it seems the same because it's on 1 to 10.
But I see it as there's certain people that pass that 10.
But it's just literally impossible because I never looked at it that way.
It's impossible to pass.
Yeah.
15, 10, 10, 10.
Like when people are like, oh, yeah, 110%, that genuinely doesn't exist.
You can all, 100% is like the full percentage of something that you can achieve.
Yeah.
Does that make sense?
So 30 out of 30 would essentially be the exact same as 10 out of 10.
Yeah, but not the way I look at it.
Because like I said, I think certain people can fucking pass that shit.
Like, you're just so gorgeous.
It's not.
Okay.
I know what you're saying.
It's just, I just don't.
I'm not, I don't get with it.
It's just not like.
It's not logic.
You don't get with it.
It's not like my thing.
Like, I think people can absolutely be way more than the max.
That literally doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, that's like erroneous conversation.
Logically, no.
Yeah.
And I know that.
So, what, okay, so I really just want to say that.
So logically, logically, no, blank what.
If it's not logical, what is the term you're going to replace for logical?
Opinionated.
Illogical.
Opinionated.
It's just, it's an opinion that might ain't logical to you, but it makes sense in my knowledge.
An opinion can be based in logic.
And it can also be based off of non-logic.
Look at me.
What is non-logic?
What I'm saying.
So what I'm saying.
Obviously.
And you guys are trying to say it's not logical.
It's not logical.
We're not trying to say we are saying that it's not.
But it may, that's what I'm saying.
So then you're wrong.
Because if something's illogical, that's the way I see it.
Okay, so then you're just wrong.
And that's okay.
I can be wrong, but to me, in my head, I'm not wrong.
It works for me.
What's two plus two?
Four.
Okay.
Can two plus two be eight?
No.
So Ryan's asking.
Wait, I have a question.
Hold on.
I have a question.
Okay, so how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
I don't eat breakfast.
Okay.
All right.
What do you mean?
Engage with the hypothetical.
Last question on the rating thing.
Do you, all else being equal, do you think you will be more physically attractive in 10 years?
In what?
Well, so you're 31, right?
Yeah.
So all else being equal, do you think you'll be more physically attractive in 10 years than you are now?
I think it's possible because 10 years ago I was ugly as fuck.
So you're 10 years made me cute.
So 10 more years might make me cuter or ugly.
Okay, so you're 31.
So are you more physically attractive now than you were at 21?
Yes, I think so.
Yeah.
All else being equal?
What do you mean?
Well, I mean, I'm just curious, like, so 10 years has passed, you were 21, you're saying you're more attractive now at 31 than you were at 21.
What's changed to make you more attractive now?
I gained weight.
I was accidentally anorexic from depression, so that played a big factor.
Let's assume you hadn't been anorexic when you were 21.
Would you have been more attractive back then?
No, because I didn't know how to take care of myself, my skin, my hair, and nothing.
So, but I said all else being equal.
So, let's assume you were able to do all those things.
Would you have been more physically attractive at 21 than you are now?
No.
No.
My face changed.
So, what's different?
Something about like your face changed.
I don't know what it was, but even people that's known me my whole life are like, how are you looking younger now?
Do you have like old photos of you when you were in the middle of the day?
Ew, don't pull them up.
They're so bad.
Ew, what?
Hold on, let me.
I'm going to see.
Like, you can see, I love tired and old and just run down.
Do I have this shit memorizing?
From when you're younger?
When I was in my 20s, yeah.
Did you party a lot?
No.
I was in a 10-year relationship.
I was miserable.
Well, maybe the depression and that got you looking older, you know?
I really think so.
What would you have rated yourself at 21?
Oh, God, negative five?
Negative 10.
You really don't like that.
Not at all.
See, this is how I think, though.
That's just the way I am.
Illogical to you guys, but it makes sense to me.
It makes sense to me, too.
At least someone gets it.
Holy shit.
Oh, it's fucking modest.
It's a carbohydrate.
Stop speaking lies.
Modesty is related to heat cumulus, not femininity often.
Oh, my God.
Question for the panel.
What is a woman?
Dude, I have not seen this guy in months.
He's fucking back.
Hold on.
Modest to comma.
I am a fucking legend.
You're a fucking legend, bro.
Good to see you back in the chat.
Hold on.
He's a brave and a decent man.
He's a pioneer.
Fucking, dude, welcome back, bro.
Send me a DM on Instagram, man.
I missed you, dude.
This guy dropped so many fucking truth bombs.
He's a fucking legend.
We'll do his question really quick.
Yeah.
What is, you know, it's important, you know, we're talking about dating.
There's men, there's women.
I think it's important, you know, in 2024 to gotten what we're talking about here.
What's a woman?
What is a woman?
Definitely.
Starting with you.
I think women, what, got the XY chromosome?
Isn't that remarkable?
That would be a male.
I was gonna say, the other one then.
I was gonna say, that's why I was questioning.
I was like, which one is it?
I was gonna say a vagina.
A woman is a vagina.
Good answer.
Well put.
Well, straight to the point, I guess.
Good answer.
That's actually the most sexist thing somebody's ever said on the podcast.
A woman is simply a vagina.
She's not anything.
Are you a feminist?
She's not.
Now you're getting dancing.
I'm not pissed off at you.
How big are you?
I don't know what I am.
This is the most misogynistic statement I've ever heard.
Women are so much more than that.
How dare you?
You misogynist.
Disability.
Women are so much more.
What is a woman?
I can't believe we're talking about this, but a woman is born a woman.
Like, plain and simple.
Can't use the word woman.
That's secular definition.
A human female.
You mean female?
Yeah.
Born or female?
Yeah.
A human female.
A lady who can reproduce.
Yeah.
Have a baby.
Grow a baby.
But I'm sure you would agree that even women who are infertile are still of the nature of that.
Okay.
An adult human female with XX chromosomes and reproductive organs.
Yep.
I echo the exact same sentiment.
Liam?
Yeah.
I don't know what those letters mean, but I agree with you.
Sorry, we didn't all go to Havish.
Oh, believe me, I didn't.
That was a perfect definition.
Yeah, I'll stick with that.
Okay.
Yo, Madis Tekama, dude, good to see you in the chat, man.
It's been a minute.
Thank you for the message.
Appreciate it.
We have a couple chats here.
We have cherry popped.
A little backtracking.
Brian, would you be with a woman who doesn't like to give BJs?
Does she still do it?
Because I suppose you could dislike it.
You could dislike it and still begrudgingly do it.
I'd prefer that it's not begrudging.
I don't like begrudging BJs.
You can dislock it into a chip.
Is this from personal experience, Brian?
I've probably received one or two begrudging BJs.
She comes in angry eyebrows.
Look, probably every guy's gotten a begrudging BJ anyways, but okay, so to answer the question, she doesn't like to give them.
So yeah, I mean, let's just say she doesn't give them.
Yeah, I would.
I mean, it would be better if she did, though.
It would be better if she did, but it wouldn't be 100% a deal breaker, but obviously preference for a woman that S is the D.
So hope that answers your question.
Thank you, appreciate it.
We have Desert Joe.
Yep, my bad with confusing Alexa Mpriya, Mia Coppa.
Also, non-consensual genital mutilation as a cultural influence should end.
Get off your righteous indignation.
It's wrong regardless of gender from Desert Joe.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
And then, of course, we have the legend himself.
David Treziak, the only tens I've ever met in SB area are Ryan Gosling's O-Pears on Carpenteria State Beach.
Oh, are you local, man?
How many of the guests have been to Burning Man?
Ursula got a tan?
This cast is hilarious.
Who's Ursula?
Maddie's Ursula?
Ursula is the girl last show.
You called her Ursula.
That's right.
I remember.
I have not been to Burning Man, but I've always wanted to say.
There you go.
There you go.
All right.
Cool.
Wait, where were we?
We were talking about rating.
Okay.
Oh, yeah, maybe.
Wait, I'm looking at your Instagram here.
I'm seeing how far back this shit goes.
29.
Hold on.
One sec.
Because you say you were less.
So you're 31, you say you were less attractive when you were, this only goes back to 2019, so that's only five years.
Do you do it?
And.
And how about Facebook?
How about tags?
Do you have any photos of yourself when you're 21?
Yeah, but they're in my phone.
Can you send them to the whatever Instagram page?
Yeah.
One at a time.
What's your phone?
Joe can grab it for you.
It's got the case on it that says queen.
She's a queen.
Why is that not surprising?
Adults are connected.
He's got it for you back there.
I know you guys see all the clips with Jake here, him just being toxic masculinity.
If you guys want to.
There's no such thing as toxic.
I know.
I know.
I'm being facetious.
I know you are.
Let me have it, guys, if you have any disagreements.
I'm a right-wing extremist on the internet, so yeah, definitely.
Is that what you guys would call the red pill?
Any red pill or something else?
Any disagreements from anybody?
Otherwise, I can just get into my pre-show notes.
Anybody?
Probably.
I've been feeling toxicity from him the whole time.
blonde back then.
I have an actual question and I don't agree with this but I'm...
Hey guys, don't worry about the sidebar conversation.
Hey, stop, stop.
Just send them and then.
I'm curious to men what you feel about women who consume marijuana.
What does that is that is that attractive instant disqualification instant disqualification?
Yeah, I mean for for me uh it's not like it depends on the frequency how much it's not 100% a deal breaker, but if she's like can't function without it, but if it's like an occasional thing, it wouldn't be a deal breaker, but I would have a preference for a girl.
Like I don't drink really either.
Occasionally I'll have like a glass of wine, but I don't go out to bars.
I don't drink more than one or two drinks max, and it's super rare.
I'll maybe drink two, three times a year.
And when I do, like one drink, two drinks max.
I don't like to drink, so I want that reciprocity in the partner.
So when it comes to marijuana, if occasionally she smokes, and if it doesn't interfere with her, but some people like it just totally blast their personality.
They're like, you can perceive that they're fucked up.
And also, actually, I don't think I've actually admitted this.
When it comes to the like having a bad experience, I actually had bad experiences.
When I was in high school, I smoked a couple times.
The first few times were fine, but I don't know if it was the strain or if I smoked too much.
But I actually had full-blown like a bad trip on it.
Like had I had hallucinations on just weed.
It was probably spice.
I don't know.
Either way, she doesn't really learn.
It's literally like the most terrifying thing I've ever had.
Started actually getting panic attacks after that for a period of time.
Spice.
I had a panic attack.
It was like one of the most terrifying things in my life.
I actually do think it led me down on the, like from that point on, it was like a total like post and pre, like in terms of anxiety.
Like it's pretty much, I do think, I mean, I have my anxiety pretty decently under, I don't have panic attacks anymore, but I used to.
And so I don't have that anymore, but I actually do think it's given me pretty much lifelong anxiety.
I think that's a very popular misconception when it comes to marijuana is that people think that it actually caught like decompresses stress when it actually increases stress.
I mean maybe the medical professional person.
It really is both.
I can totally back you up on that.
Yeah, because literally the exact same as me.
I smoked it when I was 17, had a panic attack, fucking hated it.
And then I came to California, one of my contractors gave me this chocolate bar and he goes, oh it's.
It's like what is it delta eight or something like that, and I don't know anything about lines.
So I ate this chocolate bar on the way to the airport.
You're supposed to have one square and I thought you're supposed to eat the whole bar.
So I ate this massive chocolate bar and then you know how TSA yells at you.
It's like, take your shoes off.
And I've had 3,000 milligrams of this poison.
And I'm cautiously passing the shoe like a bomb and I'm like sorry, sir.
And he's like, what's wrong with you?
Like everything's wavy.
I called my assistant.
I said, what the fuck did I eat?
Yeah, she goes.
How much is in it?
I said 3,000, she goes.
And I said, is that bad?
She goes.
No, she goes.
No, she goes.
Get on the plane.
I said no no, I need to go to hospital.
So I had to grab, you know, those little railings and I was grabbing myself in business class and they're looking at me like I'm a complete spaz and I'm so yeah, they're the only two times I've had it.
I'm never having it again.
For that's interesting because I know someone over here said someone over here said, was that mushrooms?
No no, that that can happen from marijuana.
That's what I think more people need to talk about.
Maybe you should read the instructions before consuming.
All of us went to Harvard, like you read the instructions baby, yours was, dig the whole thing.
Well, like Brian said, even I mean it doesn't.
You don't have to be consuming massive, massive amounts delta eight.
No, I don't suggest that.
I suggest getting your medical license and going to see a medical doctor to see what you should be dosed, and then going to the doctor and the pharmacy and then getting the marijuana.
It's irrelevant, it's everybody's body composition can react in a different way, and then you can.
It can put you in it to permit, I mean, that's, I mean, I'm pretty glad that didn't happen.
No, but I do hear like you can, it can, and this is absolutely studied that it can, people who wouldn't otherwise end up schizophrenic, it'll trigger.
Yes.
And you're pretty much fucked.
Yes, you're going to be on an antipsychotic with a mood stabilizer for the rest of your life just to be back to your baseline.
So like this idea, I actually think, I mean.
At least from my own experience, and you know what's funny?
I've told a lot of people the same thing.
I tried it when I was young, had this terrible, terrible experience with it, and I stopped using it.
And a lot of people tell me, they're like, I had the, a lot of people tell me, I had the same thing.
I had a panic attack.
It's caused me anxiety, long-lasting anxiety for a lot of people.
And so, I mean, my own personal recommendation to anybody watching.
Some people, it can be fairly benign, but for other people, for me, it caused this kind of moderate to severe thing.
And for some people, it can absolutely destroy your life with the, it can trigger schizophrenia.
So I think I've known three people that have been sectioned and have gone into the mental hospital.
They're looking at like the fucking trees and their eyes are going back and forth.
It became personal to me.
My brother-in-law just suffered the same thing and he will forever be on an antipsychotic and a mood stabilizer because of it.
Yes.
Damn.
See, I know personally for me, smoking weed is helped me get out of being like accidentally anorexic due to the anxiety and depression.
Like it was chronic.
And if it weren't for that, I would have just literally blown away in the wind.
Like that's the only reason I was able to eat as little as I could back then.
It sucked.
I would just caution it, bringing it back to dating, that, you know, that is an option, that is a chance.
You know, you could, if you have a partner that smokes heavily or consumes marijuana heavily, that can, that's just something to think about long term.
Yeah.
I mean, I definitely prefer a partner who's sober, you know?
So whether that's drinking or weed or other kinds of drugs.
Wait, where were we?
Were we on something?
I forgot.
We're going to look at her photos.
Look at her phone.
I don't think there were any other disagreements.
And oh, you sent them?
Do you know how old they are?
Like, you're 21, you think?
I would have to look through.
So the last one I sent you was about 12 years ago.
The one before last was probably 10 years ago.
The one before that was probably seven.
And then the first one I sent you, I would say it was about five years ago.
Let me just, before you pull those up in there.
It's the early to mid-20s, all of them, basically.
Yeah, 20 to 25.
Oh, wait, did you take screenshots of them?
Yeah, why?
Couldn't you have just sent?
Wait, you took screenshots of the photos and then sent the screenshots?
Yeah, because I went through my Facebook instead of going through my thousands of photos in my life.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
It was quicker.
I'm looking at these.
I don't know how useful they're going to be, to be honest, but it's probably not even worth it.
They're awful.
They look like MySpace photos.
No, it's not that you, it's just like...
The quality of the photos.
MySpace testing, too, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, we're going to skip on that.
I see, I see.
We're going to skip on that.
Okay, so we're going to go to, let's see, we're still.
I'm sick from her phone.
Okay, we're going to go back to Victoria here.
Oh, something, Victoria, you disagree on.
You said you have a lot of the same opinions as the host, but I do disagree with how he called that one girl a degenerate for being in the OnlyFans model.
I guess it's just like, that is degenerate.
I know.
Well, Stan Strong.
She doesn't like the way I said it.
Yeah, I didn't like the way you said it.
I didn't like.
Okay, I know what you're referencing.
So you're referencing the TikTok brain swaying back and forth.
You were saying that.
Tamagotchi girl.
Oh, yeah.
I watched that.
I think the actual thing.
This is kind of like gaslight.
This is a gaslighting thing that people do though.
So like women will like push and push and push and push and push a man.
And when he has even the slightest reaction, if he raises his tone, if you frustrate him to no end and he starts getting frustrated, they're going to turn that around on you and say that you're the abuser, even though you've been poking and prodding him for hours.
That's actually a term.
It's called reactive abuse.
It's like people, narcissists especially are good for that.
But it's like there's this, there's this expectation that me, as the host, I'm just supposed to just tolerate like just terrible behavior from some of the panelists and just totally let it slide and not try to check them and just not get frustrated by like the continuous some people just come on here and are belligerent and just like don't listen and blah blah, blah.
So yeah listen, I get frustrated.
I could be more stoic.
In that girl's case though, I will say one thing, she didn't know she was coming on the podcast, though what are you talking about?
The girl that got kicked out from the Tamatachi thing?
No well, she was just.
She was being rude the entire show.
She was being rude the entire show, but she came on to troll initially.
So there's two issues there that a lot of people don't like with the Tamagotchi kickoff.
Yeah yeah um, I just got water in my eye.
Cool, nobody cares.
Like a little device.
Thank you for sharing that's cool.
Yeah, that mad.
Okay, I know which one you're talking about.
Yeah, so like she came on and even though she was providing instructions to not be on any on a cell phone and the the spirit of that instruction is, don't be on a device so that you're not distracting and being and distracted.
So immediately once I start the intro she takes it out.
So this was something that was pre-planned.
So it was like an intentional sort of sabotage she was doing.
So not only is she breaking the rule, but she's intentionally trolling.
So then I have to like check her and I give her like the most milquetoast, like dad talk, like hey, don't do that.
Blah blah, blah.
And people just can't handle somebody like having to discipline somebody else.
But her I guess her you know she's she was trolling, but people wanted to take it like it was this serious thing.
Um, but then later on in the conversation she said that the she was bored on the show and and then I was like okay, you're bored, so make anyways.
So she's being rude disrespectful, the entire show.
Um, and then I was like, look, you've been rude, you've done all these things.
I kicked her off and then, as she was getting kicked off, she was like good luck with your dead ass podcast, bro.
And then like, so?
So my response to that is like, how are you going to and you know not to toot my own horn here I think I have a decent platform, I think I have a successful show.
So it's like, how are you going to like you're a nobody who has an only fans?
How are you going to be like you're?
You've got like your dead ass podcast.
I'm like you do only fans, you fucking degenerate.
That's what I said.
Yeah, so I?
I actually don't like I, if OnlyFans girls come on in good faith, I'm not gonna be like you're fucking degenerate, you're a piece of shit because you do only fans.
No, but if you insult my podcast, then it's tit for tat.
I'm gonna be like, well, shut the fuck up, you're a fucking degenerate who does only fans.
Nobody gives a fuck about you.
I think that's very eloquently put.
All right, you know, even with all the cursing and everything no look, I mean I'm, I'm actually I. Typically, if someone comes on and they conduct themselves respectfully, and I typically, almost always will return that respect.
But if you come on and you're trolling off the bat and you're gonna, you know, sit there and call the podcast boring and be.
I don't know if she was even on drugs.
She was swaying back and forth like this.
She was being rude disrespectful, the whole show.
I a lot of people think I'm a pushover, so if I give you so I'm, if you're, I'll go tit for tat.
I'll you know she's gonna be rude, I'll be rude back.
So people ex, it's weird.
There's this expectation that if somebody's rude to you you just have to take, take it.
It's like normally I just try to ignore it.
But if somebody crosses a threshold when it comes to rudeness, I'll just be rude back to the person and I think that's valid.
So the shizzle on this and she was definitely, and she was a degenerate in other ways than just the fact that she had an OnlyFans, she was an absolute degenerate.
I guess I felt like you were just the way you said it made it sound like you were calling all, all of your guests essentially, who do only fans degenerates.
That is degenerate behavior.
I mean it.
I'd say the behavior is degenerate, but not the person themselves.
I think you have to, kind of we have to define what we mean by degenerate as well, though if you wouldn't want to have a problem with it, so degenerate would but would sort of be the opposite of generating.
So not only when we're talking about generating.
We're talking about building things, creating things, being productive, and generally that falls within the bounds of a healthy society.
So when we look at a healthy society, only fans is something that is degenerating our healthy society.
So if you want to call something degenerate, it's really toxic actually.
Yes, i'd say that's definition, definitionally degenerate behavior, actually all porn is.
It's really bad for your brain.
But but actually I mean the girls who we have on the show, who do dof or who are involved in s work.
I actually don't really make it a habit to ever really give them much pushback or even criticism for what they do from.
I might, for example, when it comes to date, like from a dating angle, I might say well, if we're talking about it, I might say well, how's it going to impact your dating prospects?
But i'm actually typically fairly respectful, even to the women who are engaged in sex work.
I'm not going to just be like you're fucking yo nemi.
Thank you, man.
Thank you for the 20 gifted.
I'm not going to be like you're a piece of shit, you're degenerate like I.
I really I don't think i've really ever done that.
So in that instance though, she insulted me and insulted her back, so modest he came with donated 200.
Thank you, man Bricks AND T hnx for the reaction after my sabbatical long one where you been.
Congrats on Madison 2, happy to see growth for you too.
Are girls bringing on bodyguards now?
Or is that a boyfriend trying to look tough?
Lm fao, first off, he's a brave and a decent man.
He's a wild man.
Whoa too much.
I think we need to have a, do we?
What's your character?
Just a bodyguard guys.
I i've brought on.
I have security now for the podcast because um listen, you know we got, we got some ops, there's ops, so we got got security for Shizzle.
We need a backstory for uh for Joe.
I'll open the origin story a little bit.
Yeah, are we gonna improv it?
Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
I'm excited to hear this.
You got it.
Come on, Brian.
Oh, me.
Yeah, you were walking home one night and oh, no.
So, um, so check this out.
This is my good friend Joe.
Me and him, like, back a couple years ago, we were like camping, right?
And he saved me from a bear.
Brian, come up with something original.
I know.
I fucking, but he can't.
I don't know that many.
Okay, he saved me from a honey badger.
Okay, you've used that before.
He saved from a honey badger?
I think a pack of coyotes.
It was a honey badger.
Those things are fucking ruthless.
So, Joe, me and him are fucking kicking it in the tent, right?
And he hears some squealing, like, and then, like, he fucking, he's like, I got this, Brian.
Fucking opens up, opens up the tent and goes out there and just like you guys are just saving at the same time.
He's a kicker.
He kicks in football.
Football?
So he punted that shit 50 yards, right, Joe?
Punted it.
Punted it, dude.
It's probably, that's probably like a federal crime, but it's all good.
He punted that honey badger.
Are there honey badgers in California?
No.
And then also, he saved me from.
We were out surfing one day, like at RingCon.
It was like triple overhead, right?
And like, Joe's, he was like getting tubed and shit.
And then like fucking shark.
But he, like, as he was paddling out, he saw me.
He's like, Brian, cryke.
He's Australian now, huh?
He's actually Australian.
We have three?
Yeah, he's like crazy.
Dude, he's like, Brian, a great white.
So he's like, he paddles, he paddles up to me.
And he fucking just starts fucking up this shark, just fucking him up.
Uppercut, hook, just fucks up the shark.
Yeah.
Just a standard manner.
And actually, like, he was able to get a tooth from the shark and he wears it as a necklace.
Yeah.
But it's not.
It's not here right now.
Not today.
So he's good fighting against animals, but what brings him here?
Some manager.
We did.
We had a girl that had a raccoon that almost attacked us one time.
Didn't you save a raccoon in the pool the other day?
Oh, yeah.
There's a gopher.
Yeah, he saved a gopher on the phone in real time.
Actually, yeah, we were having a business call.
Because he takes my calls in the pool.
I take business calls.
And then he saves beavers in real time.
So he's cutting deals over here and saving beavers over there.
It wasn't a beaver.
It was a beaver.
And literally, I was in the pool.
I was talking to him.
And then a fucking gopher jumped in.
And I was like, oh, fuck.
So I got the net and I fucking yeeded that shit out of the pool.
I was there.
I think that's the first time.
That's the whole story.
That was the first one.
No, I swear this is actually true.
That's swear my life is true.
He literally goes, I said, so what do you do?
He goes, one second, I was going to save this fucking little beaver.
And he was really.
A beaver would be crazy to save.
How do you take business calls in a pool and save beavers at the same time?
That was actually quite remarkable.
I wasn't going to bring it up, but he started telling his shark origin story.
So there's quite a size difference between that.
Yeah, that was a good one.
No, this is not made up.
The gopher, you heard me squeal on the phone.
I was like, oh, fuck.
God damn, where the fuck?
I saw this thing.
The gophers paddle like this.
They do a little doggy paddle.
And I was like, oh, shit.
They're actually really good swimmers, but I was like, this guy's going to drown.
So I get the fucking net.
I get the fucking net.
And this thing probably has like.
I could hear it drowning in the background too.
Like it wasn't like enjoying the pool, is what I'm saying.
Well, it was doggy cat.
I thought I thought they could, like, help me.
I thought they could survive in water.
I got the net and I just fucking yeeded that shit.
Yeah, I yeeted it.
No, but did he, but did he, did you see him run off?
Well, it was like, he was dark.
No, he was dark.
No, thank you or anything.
Oh my god, that goes came out of nowhere, dude.
Holy fuck.
Did you guys see that?
Yeah, it came out of nowhere.
Save that beaver.
I know.
I saved the fucking beefer.
Anyways, back to dating talk.
How did we get here?
Oh, okay.
So let's see.
Back to Victoria's notes here.
You wait, you're current.
So are you currently going through a separation, but you're trying to reconcile?
Is that correct?
Yeah.
Okay.
And so, let's see here.
You have, oh, okay, we've got another thing here.
Oh, yeah, another thing.
You said that you have a bone to pick with the host now.
And since you said, okay, so I disagree completely on this take about promiscuous women turning their life to God and how it's ridiculous that they decide to start waiting until marriage and ask a man to wait, even though they gave that gift to other men, no problem.
I find it almost odd to think that someone's self-betterment is in any way ridiculous, unfair, seeming, maybe, but ridiculous.
Also, what does he suggest for them to continue sleeping around with lots of men?
Now, that's ridiculous to me.
Also, I feel like deciding to wait until marriage, despite your body count, will help weed out men who don't want to be married at all, I believe.
Does that accurately state your position?
Do you want to add anything else?
No, that accurately states it.
Okay.
I feel that, you know, if they're trying to better themselves and live right by God, there should be nothing wrong with that.
Well, I mean, so my first thing, just to preface this, is that I do think obviously women can change and be redeemed, but men do not need to then disregard their baggage and marry them.
And I think these two are compatible, even from a Christian worldview.
Like, you can be a Christian and you can believe that she can redeem herself.
That doesn't oblige you to have to date her.
And you can use her past, even if you're a Christian man, as criteria for disqualifying her from a relationship.
I literally was talking about that with my friend who was supposed to come.
And because I brought that up, that's why she did not come.
Because her, and so I came here with two girls.
They're best friends.
We're all from Dallas.
And then the other friend just kept saying, oh, he just needs to forgive.
Forgive, forgive, forgive.
Even if he's Christian, he needs to forgive.
I'm like, but that's not what we're talking about.
We're talking about the body count and him not choosing to be with her because of that number.
And she just kept saying, well, they both kept saying, like, oh, it just should be forgiven.
I'm like, that's not the point.
That's somebody that probably has a high body count.
You can still forgive that, but you're not then obligated to accept, to disqualify that criteria from the mattering and whether you're listening or not.
And then she just kept saying, like, that's so bad.
Like, why is he a Christian if he's not choosing her?
Even with that hypothesis.
Yeah.
Well, you get them on.
Can you tell them to just come on?
That's why they're done.
Are they sitting in the car down there or some shit?
No, they're just wandering around.
Tell them that we got time.
Tell them to come over here.
It was such a heated conversation because one of your friends cold feet last night.
Yeah, because I brought up the body count because I told.
Okay, well, so I mean, it'd be good to actually present this argument to her.
But I mean, if men are compelled to forgive women with a high body count and we're obliged to date them, well, then my counterargument would be women are compelled and obliged to date men who are broke, who are short, who are not ambitious, who aren't successful, who are unattractive, who are a myriad of things.
So, yeah, I mean, do you think would she would one of the girls is like a fitness girl, right?
Yeah, I think she started building her account primarily in the fitness interview.
So is she obliged to date anyone?
Like she has to date somebody is basically the argument.
You have to date somebody.
Can you elaborate?
What do you mean?
Like are you saying like does she have to date somebody?
Well it sounds like because again I'm I'm saying that you can be forgiven or redeemed.
You can turn your life around.
But from a personal preference perspective both men and women have autonomy and they can disqualify people for any myriad of reasons for being a partner.
You might not like the way they dress, something as arbitrary as that.
You might not like that they could have a birthmark here and that could be justification enough I think for anyone.
It might be a bit silly, but I tried to reason with them and they just wouldn't understand.
They should come on the show.
Are they likely watching the conversation?
I don't know.
So I don't have Instagram on my phone.
Well, I don't have my personal account.
My phone's on my iPad.
So is the link on your story on the whatever account storage?
Maybe.
It should be.
I wish I can try calling.
Tell them to get on the show.
We'll talk about it.
The fact that they don't want to talk about it is a real red flag because if you're confident about something and if you think that you've got the correct worldview, then you should be able to come on and correct that.
But this is the thing, though.
The only time that anyone ever gets berated for having standards, is when it's men trying to hold women accountable for their previous indiscretions and bad behavior.
Women will hold men accountable to no end for all of the things that they lack.
And men should really be able to do the same thing.
Yeah, exactly.
We just aren't really able to do that.
And then we get berated for holding.
And I think that's an inherently positive thing to have standards with the opposite sex.
It's always the females with the high body counts that usually say things like that.
Because, yeah, that's facts.
You're friends under the bus.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, I don't think, I mean, it would be interesting to just ask her, like, what standards, preferences, and boundaries do you have a partner for a partner?
That's a good question.
If she has any, if she has any, it's like, well, why are you judging?
Why are you disqualifying men?
And I would actually argue that her metrics are far more, I'm just making assumptions here since she's not here.
I would actually argue that her standards, boundaries, whatever, are probably far more shallow, superficial, and arbitrary than a woman's past promiscuity.
Yeah, but didn't you say that you prefer a certain girl, though?
Wait, what do you mean?
You said that you prefer like short girls and like, is he not allowed to have preferences?
Yeah, but I'm not making the argument.
But would you disqualify girls if they weren't?
Wait, can you posture check?
Would you date a tall girl too?
Yeah, I'll date a girl who's even taller than me.
When it comes to height, I have a preference for shorter women.
Okay.
But like for me, height is, I would happily date a woman who's she could be six, seven.
Wouldn't be a deal breaker.
Yeah.
Whereas women have like a very stringent thing when it comes to height.
Whereas I'd argue most men don't care either way if they're short or if they're tall.
And actually it's a more, I think it's a reasonable standard.
If a woman doesn't want to marry a short guy, then that's completely fine.
But that's actually an immutable characteristic as well.
We can't help that.
But you can help that you have sex with.
Yeah, I bet there's a bunch of, I mean, you said they're Christian, right?
They're Christian.
And I actually, I have a podcast too, but I'm not so consistent on it.
What's it called?
Give it a shout out.
Your purpose within.
And the first episode that I did with the two friends that I had at the time, which they're no longer my friends because of this episode, They literally, they got so mad of how I titled everything that we talked about.
So, we talked about body count.
Why do you want a man who makes over 100K and then something else?
So, I titled it, Why Should a Man Accept Your High Body Count if You Can't Accept Him Making Less than 100K?
And because of that, they just cut all ties with me.
But of course, it's because they want a man who makes way over 100K.
And again, they also said he should just forgive my past of having a high body count.
Well, then they should forgive perhaps his past of not making the right educational and career moves.
I literally because perhaps he could have made different decisions in his youth that would have resulted in him being a higher earner, but he didn't make those choices.
And perhaps he's on a trajectory that will never see him making $100,000.
Well, they ought to just forgive that.
Yeah.
But look, I actually look as a woman, if it's your preference that you want to date a high earner, I think that's fine.
I think some people can be delusional with it, though, insofar as you also have to think, well, what does that man want?
Because, you know, a man who's a high earner, maybe he doesn't want you.
Not you specifically, but, and so, I mean, yeah.
Yeah.
I think that I think a lot of what ties into how your friends are perceiving this is a very common stigma within like Christian culture: that you shouldn't judge people.
And but that's not that's not necessarily a Christian standard.
Thou shalt not judge, lest be judged, which means that you can't, you shouldn't judge somebody if you were engaging in that same behavior that you were judging.
But judgment is actually a very positive thing in society in general, and also in just Christianity in general, because it helps hold people accountable to their actions.
But yeah, I love that.
Were there other things?
Was it the same girls that were coming on today or a different group of girls?
No, it's two different girls.
Okay.
So the conversation that you were having on your podcast was, well, why should men should forgive women's past promiscuity?
But then you were also like, well, okay, what are your standards?
So you want a guy who makes over $100K a year?
Right.
Yeah.
So that's it.
Were there other things like height, other things that they wanted in the men?
Yeah, they wanted men that were obviously taller.
Do you agree with that?
So I literally looked at one of them and I was like, so if a man was working at McDonald's and he treated you perfectly the way you wanted him, I would not date him.
And that's what she said too.
Fuck that.
And I literally said, you can't even get you.
Where are you?
Where the hell?
What is he supposed to give me?
He loves you.
What is he supposed to give me if he works at McDonald's?
Go get a better education and grow.
Hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
So you're quite brazenly.
Yeah, well, it looks like it.
You're quite brazenly.
This doesn't define education.
So when you're judging a man based on his income, what did you just say?
Stop talking.
When I'm speaking, stop talking.
Okay.
Good.
Okay.
So when you're judging a man, quite brazenly and quite actually disrespectfully because of the income that he earns, perhaps he doesn't have an intellectual aptitude, but he's a good person and he'd treat you really well.
As somebody who is a prostitute, what is your standard that makes you so much better than him?
I have like much more than just a prostitution as a job, though.
Like I said, as somebody who is a prostitute, what is your standard that makes you so much better than him?
So McDonald's is worse than being a prostitute.
Yeah, but I'm not a prostitute.
I'm a sugar waiting.
You have sex with people for money.
You're having sex with 10 people at the same time for money.
As a prostitute, what makes you better than that man?
I'm not saying I'm better than him, but I would say I wouldn't date somebody.
Like, just like men won't date prostitutes.
You scoffed at the idea of a man working at McDonald's, though.
Yeah, because I would not date, I would wonder why he's working at McDonald's.
McDonald's actually has a really high minimum wage.
No, they don't.
Do you think that they really don't?
They pay like what?
Like almost set 15?
Yeah, that's not a lot of money.
Aren't they changing like the minimum wage for fast food workers in California to like $20?
But that's like California, though.
But you live in California.
No, I don't.
I live in Florida.
So the way you feel about the guy who works at McDonald's, that's the way men feel.
That's fine.
Everybody can have their own opinion.
You do.
And that's totally fine.
Their opinion would be more logical than McDonald's or McDonald.
Definitely different too.
Yeah.
But did you want to continue on?
So you were saying like.
Yeah, so the first podcast, I think another reason why they were mad is because when we were talking about it, we first talked about the body count and then we talked about men making less than 100K.
Then we talked about something else.
But when I edit it, I edit it in the same title, like, why should a man accept your, you know, et cetera?
And just being honest.
Yeah.
They didn't like the title.
They didn't like the title.
I don't know.
They asked you to change it.
They begged me to change it.
But we literally had meetings prior, like, on how what we were going to talk about.
And, gosh, what was I going to say?
So one of them, she started saying that she wants a man that makes $100K, but then she changed it.
And she's like, actually, no, he needs to make more than a $400K.
I'm like, $400K?
Watch.
I love that.
It's sad to me because there are so many good men out there who are just.
$400K is the 1%.
Yeah.
Right?
That's the 1%.
I believe that's above the 1%.
Absolutely.
What do these girls do, for example?
Let's say you date an entrepreneur, right?
Who makes a million dollars a year.
And he's making that money for two, three years, everything's great, but then he loses it all.
What do you think those girls would do then?
And that's a for real question as an entrepreneur.
Like, I'm not going to, you know, what would they do?
I'm something that we think about as risk takers.
Yeah, for real.
It's a legitimate question.
Like, do they bail when the money drives?
That's a good question.
I would love to ask them that.
But I think one of them would actually probably leave because the way she was, she was so like, she was so on getting a man that makes over 100K.
I think she would actually leave.
Because at that time, she was an engineer herself.
So she really just had her bar set way too high.
I feel like she's not.
Well, if she leaves and then he 10X's and he makes 15K in the next year.
Right.
And I should come back to that.
I was telling them, that's what I was telling them.
Like, you can grow with your man.
For real.
And if it makes you feel better, the only two girlfriends that I had, two five-year relationships, both supported me when I started H Business.
H Business went on to make seven figures.
I lost it all.
But we separated before that.
And then the second one was with me when I built it all back up again.
So it's like loyalty.
I think loyalty is what this whole market is missing, to be honest.
And then, yeah, just giving them a space to like to grow.
And we're giving them that peace and that security as well, because men need that feeling as well.
And a lot of females are missing out on that kind of relationship because they're so fixiated on getting in the winner circle.
Yeah, to me, it's absolutely psychotic for females who think like that.
It doesn't make sense because it's not logical at all.
What was your opinion on this?
So if your friends were sitting here, what do you think they would say if they were asked the question what they brought to the table to be able to earn a man like that?
I think I did ask them that.
I think the main one that was talking, I think she, she just kept saying, well, I'm an engineer.
I make over $100K.
So I need a man who makes about the same, about the same amount of income a year.
Yeah.
I can't remember.
But then at the same time, that's really bizarre because, first of all, income for a woman is not generally something that men particularly value.
Right.
Like, I mean, some men aspire to have a woman that is driven by something, of course.
Their income is not necessarily a factor in the future.
And that's why men date attraction for them.
Men date down, and women date down.
Some females, some females just don't believe in that.
They just want, they feel like they're the prize.
Yeah.
And at the same time, it is really funny because she says in the same breath that she wants somebody that makes 400K or more, but she makes 100K and wants somebody that makes equivalent to that.
That's 4X.
You know what's hilarious?
Like towards the end, she's like, oh, dating is just so hard.
I'm like, well, I really wonder why.
I really wonder why.
I'm curious what her reason was for changing her answer from 100K to 400K.
Was it simply, did she say for like luxurious reasons, or did she want to have a lot of kids, start a family with this person?
Or what was the problem?
I think when the conversation just got more heated, or she felt like more in the hot spot, she just changed it.
She was like, actually, you know what?
400K.
Interesting.
You guys are from Texas, correct?
Yes, not born and raised.
I'm from Orlando.
Okay.
But you guys live in Texas currently.
These girls do as well.
So yeah, but yeah.
Interesting.
They just moved here a year ago.
Well, not here, but Dallas, yeah.
Well, theoretically, you could make, you could have a pretty decent living on 200 grand a year in a lot of places in Texas.
So that's very interesting.
I don't know where you'd need half a million dollars.
Yeah.
You're a millionaire.
Yeah.
I think that was the last time I would ever bring people on because I really like them.
You know, the first two girls that I had on my podcast.
And I was just kind of sad and shocked.
Like, wow, you're really not going to talk to me because of things that we talked about for an hour?
But you could have people on you disagree with.
That's why this works.
And that's what I told them, too.
You push yourself to get more people on that you don't agree with, to be honest.
That's what we were.
So when they were mad about the title, I'm like, this is a great opportunity to show people or tell people what you think about certain topics and stuff like that.
But a lot of people just can't take being the one being yelled at or criticized.
Yeah.
It's very interesting.
If this is what you're doing for content, though, I would say don't back off and don't get self-conscious because I'm sure Brian will be able to tell you, you'd be able to say as well, you cannot please everyone.
And half of my videos are literally titled like Feminists Destroyed with Facts and Logic.
So I mean, it's, you know, you're meant to draw in an audience.
And there is an element of clickbait and there is an element of drama that you have to have in your podcast or else you're just vanilla and boring.
So yeah, and I think like females, they don't want to be submissive anymore because I'm very submissive.
So I don't think they want to be submissive anymore because they see it as a sign of weakness or they see it as, oh, I can't be independent anymore, which is not true at all.
Like I'm an entrepreneur, but I still want, like, the people in the back end are all men.
Like, I'm not going to make a big decision without going to my mentors.
But some of these females don't, they're like, I don't want to need that.
I can just make those decisions.
And that, and I find that women in general tend to be very sensitive to criticism, whereas men tend to be far more accepting when it comes to being criticized.
And I mean, you take it with a pinch of salt, but you also take it in the sense to like work on yourself and better yourself.
And women have a really, really difficult time doing that, I find a lot of the times.
Yeah.
Can I ask a question around the table?
Would you guys date somebody who makes less than 100K?
Would you marry somebody who makes less than 100K?
I would if they love me.
Yeah.
Yes.
I would live under a bridge with someone who respects me and loves me.
Yeah.
Facts.
My husband makes under 100K.
Yeah, I would.
Of course.
In Pennsylvania, that's, I mean, Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
$100,000, were you kidding me?
Like, that is a lot of money.
Yeah, I would.
I would date a ham sandwich under $100K.
Support me on my dreams.
I would date a legitimate ham sandwich.
So when you said before that you didn't, like, you wouldn't, you were laughing at the guy who works at McDonald's, like, why?
Why that reaction?
I don't think that they make $100,000.
No, no, I'm saying because obviously he makes less and you were laughing.
Oh, I would never get him.
McDonald's is for like college students, like people that they're just starting out.
But if he has a side hustle.
A side hustle?
What if he has a side hustle?
But that's like putting like things into the thing.
If his main thing was like working at McDonald's, but I date older men, though.
That's the thing.
I date older men.
McDonald's.
I don't think that 45-year-old.
But if he was working to support his startup and then his snow made him a billionaire, like he kind of like realistically thinking.
Girlfriend.
Yeah, but it's like I'm realistically thinking like if he loves you, he cares for you.
He respects you.
Probably not.
If he told me he worked at McDonald's, I'd probably not be interested.
I'd want him to be like somewhere in his life that's way more progress than McDonald's.
So why don't you have that for yourself?
Because usually you want to.
We're talking about what I want, not what other people want.
So we're talking about what you want, so then we also have to talk about what you bring to the table as well.
I'm not going to lie.
What would be those things, main things?
Getting out of sugaring.
Yeah, cool.
And yeah.
And I'm working on that.
Often you bring to the table.
Yeah.
Getting out of prostitution isn't exactly what you bring to the table.
That's what you need to work on.
Okay.
So what do I need to work on?
Not a problem.
So like if someone asked me that, I would say I bring peace, I bring, I want to make him feel comfortable.
I want to give him that.
So I'm very empathetic.
I care about other people.
I think that in like a social setting, I'm fun to be around.
You just laugh.
Laughed at men who work at McDonald's.
Are you though?
But like, I don't think you also sleep with other people's husbands.
I don't think that really aligns with anything.
Don't get me started.
That's because they're in sexless marriages, so they don't get their dick sucked.
So you have zero regard for that woman?
I don't care.
No.
But you then, in the same breath, said that you were empathetic.
Yeah, I'm empathetic to certain things.
Sexless marriages, I mean, it's a men.
So this is what annoys me, man.
So maybe they shouldn't cheat on their, like...
Maybe you shouldn't help them cheat on their wives.
I don't care.
They're getting me out of it.
Back to the point, though, I mean, this is what kind of annoys me, though.
We've got actually a good panel tonight of ladies who actually have a much better understanding.
But generally, this is the attitude when it comes to guys who earn less than 100K.
And it's to do with social media, and it's to do with the male influencers as well who promote having to have, you know, $100 million just to get by.
And it's just not the reality of things.
Most men are out there working extremely hard, contributing to society and building things.
I'm very lucky in the sense that I actually get to have a YouTube channel where I can earn a lot of money.
My YouTube channel, if my YouTube channel goes away tomorrow like that, people will watch some other shit.
It doesn't even matter.
But these guys, if they stop building the structure tomorrow, all of a sudden we've got half-built structures everywhere.
All of a sudden, you can't flush your toilet.
All of a sudden, you can't have electricity.
And all of a sudden, we can't have protection from the police.
These are the people who literally build the world around you.
And it's just like, I absolutely detest that notion of people laughing at people who work with their hands.
Yeah, I was just saying that I would never date somebody that works at McDonald's just because somebody that I would date is going to be older and I would not want them to be working at McDonald's.
So you said that I still have time to develop a career or whatever.
So when you find out that one of your clients is married, you have no empathy to stop it?
Like, hey, I can't.
No.
Because usually they're in sexless marriages.
And that's not your job to fix that.
That's the point.
You're acting like all of the blame is on the husband and that you're this victim.
No, I'm still.
I don't think there's a problem with it.
So let me give you an example.
So like, let's say a man is hitting on me, but it's coming off very disrespectful.
I'm not going to allow him to continuously disrespect me.
I'm going to remind him, like, hey, listen, I could be your sister, your daughter, your female cousin.
Like, this is not something you want to be doing.
Well, sometimes the wives actually let them, and then they say, oh, I just don't want to hear about it.
Or at least that's what they tell me.
So that's what I'm going off of.
Yeah, they're probably lying.
I don't care.
That's what they're telling me.
So let me put you in a certain position here.
Sure.
If you were the wife of one of these.
I would never get married, so I can't put myself in that position.
Hypothetical.
It's a hypothetical.
If I were to ever get married.
Just try.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
How exactly would you?
I would feel like it's cheating.
It's a whole mind-boggling concept.
No, I do, but like, but that's the thing.
It's not, I don't know.
It's not at my point in my life where I want to be married or that's not, that has nothing to do with it.
Or ever getting married.
I think this is a problem of today's society is like you can't take yourself and put yourself in somebody else's shoes.
I can't.
No, no, wait, you wouldn't.
But where would it be?
No, let me just finish.
Let me finish.
But I was still doing it.
I'm still talking.
Where I, like, say you have a wife and a husband who have children.
Yeah.
And maybe they do have stuff to work on and maybe they don't.
And he's a lot of people.
Some kids are just too scared to break up with their wife.
They're too scared because they have baggage like kids.
Or not baggage.
It's not bad.
Not like baggage, because they have like, but they have like too much tied together, I mean.
But still, no justification.
That's not justification for you.
That's actually what happened in one of my arrangements where I knew he would never leave his wife or kids.
And so like, that's what made me start in OnlyFans, actually.
So he should man up and be faithful to his wife and his family.
Tell him, act like the head of the household, but you shouldn't help them engage in this sort of behavior.
Talk about this is there's a certain moral code that people should live by.
Talking about creating society.
The breaking family that saw your queen bee over here.
Do you respect men?
Yeah, I do respect men.
But you don't respect women.
I mean, the ones that are married, I guess not.
Hey, any friends of hers who are married, y'all better watch out.
Watch your girl.
I don't feel like anything.
I don't scoop it on my girlfriends for a while.
But if your husband's just random women that I don't care about.
Probably not.
Yeah.
But she's telling her.
Tell your man not to join seeking arrangements.
Yeah.
I think that just comes back to the point before, though, that, you know, you've got, you're laughing at guys who work at McDonald's and guys who don't earn much money.
What can they give me?
Well, these guys are actually the ones who are building the society that we all want to live in.
Whilst you actually, the work that you do is actually.
I don't eat at McDonald's, though.
You need to stop interrupting people when they're talking.
The work that you do and the industry that you're in actually has a parasitical nature to society.
That's how I'm quitting it, actually.
Yeah.
So, I mean, that's just the point that I want to get across.
And that's how I want to be with only one person.
Would you date a man who's a prostitute?
I mean, a man can be a prostitute, right?
I mean, there's men on seeking arrangements that actually have multiple, multiple arrangements.
And then, yeah, like, I would date.
I want to date one right now.
But I want to go exclusive with him.
Do you mind me this with me?
She's so funny.
The best time.
Like, I do.
Like, I want to transfer it into just being in a monogamous relationship because before I was telling myself I was polyamorous because I was like having so many arrangements and being like a sex worker.
And I think that it's not like the best decision to go into that.
So really not.
If you got into that committed relationship that you want and you accidentally have a child, or let's say it's a daughter, what would you teach her?
I would teach her not to do sex work.
Yeah.
I would teach her like not to do this and not to do an OnlyFans either.
But why are you justifying your own behavior?
Well, I'm not like, this is all new to me.
Like within like quitting OnlyFans, like if you look at the timeline of things, like I just decided like less than two weeks ago that I wanted to ultimately not be a sex worker and go into a monogamous relationship where I was like going to break up with one of the dudes I was sleeping with and I still had sex with him.
So I ruined like, and then I told the person that would be proud of you if she saw this.
You have to bring my mom into this.
So I can come, if that is truly what your goal is and what you were going to do, I commend you for that.
But you in the same breath are trying to justify your own behavior.
Malicious behavior, mind you, saying that I don't really give a damn about these women whose husbands I'm sleeping with.
Well, that was like, honestly, I'm quitting.
I get that you're quitting.
I get that.
But the mindset, like, I, yes, that's what I thought.
But part of your mindset, if you were actually going to implement that change in your life, it's going to have to be yesterday was wrong.
I do not advocate for that.
I don't feel it was wrong in the moment.
But do you now, reflecting back on it, think it was wrong?
Not that I was sleeping with the married guys, no.
Maybe she will eventually.
Interesting.
Probably.
I would only know.
And I realize that.
Because I live the swinger lifestyle.
I think that we should be open with our sexuality and be able to sleep with other people and not be so tied to like the thing that you're saying.
Yeah.
You can't like.
You could be a couple and then sleep with other people.
Not when the other couple, not when the other married person is not in favor of that.
Like the spouse is not.
Like if I were going to my monogamous relationship, I would probably like, because I'm bisexual, so I like women too.
But I would probably like try to go to the house.
No, I think that like during drugs.
I think that during the time that I slept with the married guys, like I didn't think it, I don't think there's anything.
But now at this point in time, do you think it was wrong of you to do so?
If I went back to sex work, I would still sleep with guys that I don't.
Yeah.
She belongs to the screen.
Because they just won't leave their wife.
So you want them to leave their wives for what?
Because they're not happy.
No, you don't know any of that.
You know what they tell you?
You don't mean they're paying you for a service.
Exactly.
Why are they paying me and why aren't they with their wife?
So do you feel painful?
Because people are awful over their wives.
That sucks.
Well, they're awful and I'm awful.
You can't tell your mic down a little bit.
It's a little too high.
They're awful.
I'm awful.
That sucks.
Yeah, so would you, do you want to be an awful person?
No, I want to be in a relationship with my arrangement and not blow things and not be a sex worker.
But at the end of the day, I don't think it's awful to sleep with girls that are married because marriage isn't like, it's whatever.
It's not to everybody.
Yeah.
But also, you say that you don't want to be, you don't want to be a bad person and you want to implement all these changes in your life.
You clearly are not making the decisions to do so.
Yeah, because if you do that to you, when you join seeking arrangements, it becomes very addicting.
Addiction seems to be a kind of a theme.
It seems like it's a theme of like your personality, that seeking arrangements is addicting.
It is addicting.
You consume marijuana a lot.
That's addicting.
Okay, well.
Do you have friends that are doing the same thing?
As sugaring?
No.
Well, let me, we have four chats.
I need to get through the chats and then we can come back to dog piling.
Not dog piling.
All right, we have ginger.
I used to smoke MJ regularly and one time I had smoked.
I went into an 18-hour long panic attack.
I've suffered from anxiety ever since.
Definitely don't recommend smoking.
Been sober four years.
Liam, I'll know with your experience, but like ever since my experience, haven't touched it.
I haven't touched it.
I've never touched it.
Don't do drugs.
I was like 17.
Oh, dude, fucked me.
It's weed to hear someone else that got kooked just as badly by it.
Yeah.
It's bad.
And I like reading some of the stuff about how it can cause schizophrenia.
I can tell you firsthand, I'm very happy that didn't happen.
Thank you for sharing.
We've got Killa of Cereal, woman slash female equals XX chromosomes, able to house to conception using the built-in womb connected by an umbilical cord and vein that feeds the fetus.
It's nutrients through the liver.
Definitely not the man.
Sweet.
It's a good use of 100 million.
It's a very interesting.
Good to see you, Killa of Cereal.
Good to see you in the chat.
We have him.
Hold on, actually, let me do this one first.
We have David Treziak.
Hey, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Based in San Diego, but have family who live next to Ryan G in the oh, Ryan Gosling.
Is he in.
Oh, Montecito, probably.
Okay.
What's that?
Oh, Carp.
Okay.
Maddie, are you doxing Ryan Gosling?
Even when people know, please.
Oh, wait, fuck.
Sorry, let me pull it up again.
Margot Robbie was only recent watched Barbie, but is that movie about feminism respect to Maddie, Ursula, and Gustav?
Gustavo?
Actually, I think we mentioned this before.
I saw Barbie like a month or two ago.
It was like, it was fucking dog shit.
Terrible movie.
Yeah, I agree.
Terrible movie.
Who made you watch that?
I was like, it was on HBO.
It was on HBO.
I was just like, all right.
Just happen to walk by.
All right.
I'll see what it's about.
I was in Mexico a few months ago and I walked into a library in Mexico to go and do my work.
Modest Hikima donated $200.
Girl 2 is classic of girl.
Seen many on whatever.
Never will get a man that she wants to settle.
Only digits interested.
Digitions not interested in long term.
Not top 1% of.
Just look at her.
That's rude.
That's cute.
I do pray that you make the changes in your life that you say that you want to do.
I don't believe in God.
Well, she does, so I do.
She's trying to say it would probably help you immensely in your life if you did as well.
I don't believe in God.
But she's saying if you did, it would really need to be.
You're right.
Oh, my God.
Makes me want to throw off.
I don't believe in, oh, my God.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
So what does OMG stand for?
Don't take that.
Oh, my God.
So, okay.
We have.
It's like an Asher song, isn't it?
Killer of Cereal.
Hey, thank you, man.
All right, pick one of these two options.
This is for the ladies.
He's going to describe two men.
Guy number one, 6'1, 180k year, fit, 8-inch PP, but has a horrible world outlook and the negative attitude in general.
Or 5'2, 30k year, chubby, 4-inch PP with a positive outlook and ooze's confidence and swagger.
Pick one or two.
Two.
One.
Wait, you got to tilt your mic down.
You either got to do posture or tilt the mic down.
It's got to be one or the other.
Two.
Ooh.
Probably one.
I'm 5'9.
I'm sorry.
It's just gotta be.
Okay, all right.
The latter, too.
Okay, cool.
Thank you, Killa of Cereal.
You have the answers we have.
Dylan Lawy.
Selena, something about that accent and hair is ding, is ding it for me.
Doing it for me.
Doing it for me, excuse me.
I'm 6'2, 240 pounds, make 60k a year, shoot guns, and you can grow, kill, and can grow slash kill my own food.
Should I slide in the DMs or question for all the ladies?
Why should you be allowed to vote?
So we'll start with the first part.
So, Selena, this is Dylan.
What does his shirt say?
What does his shirt say?
Can you read it?
Federal Everything.
And then is that a MAGA hat?
What's the hat?
Can you see what the hat is?
What's it say on the hat?
Okay.
Are you down for Dylan?
No, I like Colin.
Oh, the guy you're dating, currently.
Talking to, yeah.
Oh, okay.
All right.
So you're not available.
And he's not to you, no offense.
Sorry, Lol.
Sorry, Dylan.
Oh, my God.
She's in a talking stage, I guess.
Sorry.
Unfortunately, my friend Dylan, we can only do one question per super chat, and your second question will also get me canceled.
So I do appreciate it.
I do appreciate it.
But thank you, man.
Thank you.
Maybe try your shot at one of the other girls on the panel.
I don't know.
All right.
So let's bring it.
You know what?
Hold on.
I'm going to move forward a little bit.
I got questions for Jasper.
What's up?
Oh, whoops.
Do you have two names?
Yeah.
So you said that you're currently open/slash polyamorous?
Well, at the time I filled out this, yeah, at the time I messaged, I would say that I was thinking I was polyamorous because I was open to dating multiple people, which I referenced that back to my AKA, like sugar daddies.
But really, ultimately, what I want is to be a partner with somebody else.
Just one person specifically.
And you said.
But not married.
Like, just like you don't want to get married.
Yeah, like monogamous.
You said that in the normal dating, did you originally consider yourself traditional?
No.
Oh, okay, because there's something written here from your notes.
Going from traditional to poly to sugaring to OnlyFans to dating multiple guys at once.
Yeah, yeah.
So like back like when I was in high school, back when I was in high school, I dated one person.
Then after that, I dated another person.
And then like it was just like very like I used to make fun of girls that were on OnlyFans.
You used to, okay.
Yeah.
How old are you now?
27.
Well, I'm going to be 27.
Well, I'm going to be 27 next month, but I'm 26.
Well, when OnlyFans came out, I was like in high school.
Like we were just graduating.
So OnlyFans hasn't been out for 10 years?
No.
It's been out since 2016, I think.
Nick, can you check when OnlyFans came out?
When OnlyFans came out?
It only got popular, I think, in like what, 20?
But I swear, like, girls in my school were doing OnlyFans right when it came out.
Well, they were doing other, there's like camming and like that kind of shit.
I think it was twice as 16.
I don't think it was popular.
It's a part of the culture now.
Wait, so you said you were and have been dating multiple guys at once.
Like I wouldn't say dating.
I would say that's yeah, let's say whatever.
Just anywhere from casual to dating.
Correct.
What's the most amount of guys that you've been seeing?
And that could be like super casual to maybe a little more like at one time.
What's the most?
Because I know you said 10.
Is that the most or have you seen more?
I've gone on dates with a lot of them.
I haven't necessarily sucked with every single person that I've gone on like a date with because like I do find that sometimes having like a date with somebody, we don't really connect very well.
Okay.
But so what's the most?
Probably like 15 at most.
15 roster?
Yeah.
Okay.
Like 15 sleeping with?
Like a one time.
No, like I would say like maybe like 15, I don't know, like on, I don't really know actually.
Do you know your body count?
I don't know my body count.
It's a good question, actually.
Yeah.
Do you have a sense of a range?
Don't you say you have a list?
No, I don't have a list.
Okay.
Under what?
Probably like under 50.
Under 50.
Yeah.
So like 49.
Yeah, because up until I was like, up till a year and a half ago, I had only slept with like five people.
Wait, hold.
Wait, so hold on.
Up until a year and a half ago, your body count was five.
Yeah.
And then in the past year and a half, it's shot up to between 40 and 50.
Is that fair to say?
Probably.
Okay.
Now, and do you count?
Because you've done like traditional adult content, right?
Like you shoot with guys.
Yes.
Right?
Is that correct?
Yeah, but it was kind of like not like with that many guys.
That you've shot content with.
Right.
How many guys do you know?
Like, do you know how many guys you've shot content with?
I can count in my head if you give me a minute.
Sure, yeah.
Take your time.
I'll read this chat while you start counting.
Well, actually, if I'm guessing really fast, probably like, I would say like.
Wait, into the mic?
Less than 10.
Okay, you've shot with less than 10 guys.
Yeah.
A year and a half ago, you were.
No, I was doing OnlyFans for only 12 weeks.
Okay.
Sorry, I wasn't including the OnlyFans guys for some reason.
In the body count?
Yeah, sorry.
I would say that.
So including the OnlyFans guys, what's 60 is my guess.
60.
Okay.
But so.
But so it's been, you've had about 55 sexual partners in the past year and a half.
That guy slingshot donated $200.
I'm sorry, but Carrot Top's stepsister is really coming off as ignorant and heartless.
The fact that you can knowingly sleep with someone's husband and not care is gross and shows a lack of morals.
Absolutely.
Well, I mean, I don't know.
What is this?
Wait, so okay.
So that guy slingshot, appreciate a man, Carrotop's sister.
Do you want to dispel the rumors that you're related to Caratop?
Yeah.
I'm not.
I'm just a ginger.
I heard the money piece, though.
Okay.
Not sure what that is, but so.
It's like where you're here here.
The TTS came in kind of just as I was asking the question, so I'll just repeat it for the sake of that.
So a year and a half ago, your body count was five.
In that year and a half period, your body count is now 60, around 60.
Is that correct?
With the OnlyFans guys, yeah.
Including the, which is about 10.
I'm guessing.
Okay.
And you said the most amount of men that you've been engaged with sexually at the same concurrent period of time?
I would say actually like, I'm sorry.
No, like 10.
I think pretty much like 10.
10, 10 to 15, maybe?
Yeah, it just depends.
All right.
So.
Yeah.
But like, I, I don't know.
I think that sugaring is actually like not.
Oh, gosh.
Like, I would not suggest it to other females.
It's also like dangerous, actually.
Posture or if women.
Scoot the mic.
Hold on.
Wait, wait, hold on.
Sorry.
My new tattoo is really itchy.
Hold on.
Scoot the mic to the edge of the table.
Okay.
And just leave it there.
Okay.
Okay.
So yeah, I know, I think that I've- Wait, and then, hold on.
I'm like, has this been this way the whole show?
Can you scoot that to the edge of the table and the wire should not be hanging off the edge that way?
Okay.
Has it been that way the whole show?
No.
I just moved it when I got up early.
I think that women are like that girls that don't take the approach of even looking into the guy that they're meeting up with.
Because I actually use this software that uses artificial intelligence and facial recognition.
And it scans the jawline of their face and finds out like publicly like what websites or what they own or what business they're associated with.
So just see if they're like actually who they are and who they say they are.
And I've had situations where I'm like on FaceTime with a guy and he's been to jail for like murdering animal cruelty with death.
But like I'm talking.
But like, yeah, some extreme stuff.
And I think that like OnlyFans and the porn industry, it's just like not very like the path to go.
Right.
Well, just going back to like the dating multiple guys thing.
So in a I don't wait, did I?
I don't know if I asked this to somebody else on the panel, but in like a 72-hour window, what's the most amount of guys that you've been with?
Probably like two.
Two?
What about like what's the shortest period of time where there's been like two guys?
I never sleep with a guy in the same day.
Is that like 24 hours or like same?
No, I don't know.
Like it could be like 11.15.
Sometimes it's more than 12.
But if it's like 12.05, it's okay.
No, I don't time it out.
I really don't.
I'm just curious.
Okay.
Okay.
Timer goes off.
She's like, okay, the next one.
Ready?
No.
It's not like that.
I'm not like a brothel.
Thank God.
I guess.
What about, like, what was your busiest month?
Like, how many guys were there in your busiest month, would you say?
I don't know.
Like I said, it's like 10.
Like I said, it's like an average.
Well, like, that's depending on how many arrangements I had in place.
Like, I was very specific about who I hung out with and things like that.
I have asked what changed a year and a half ago because you said your body count was five.
And then something.
I started going and seeking arrangements.
But was there something else that happened in your personal life?
Or was there some sort of an issue that happened there?
Because I am actually slightly worried of you that you're clearly impaired by something at the moment in some sort of substance.
And you're divulging all this information on the internet.
I'm not.
This is what I came on here for.
You know what I see?
Okay, well, if you're happy to, then.
Yeah, I'm happy to share the information.
Yeah.
I see that you have a lot of empathy, but you're acting like you don't care to hide or mask pain or somehow.
I think you do because you care about other females not doing sinking arrangements.
Yeah.
But I feel like you kind of just, you're, I don't know, I feel like it's a little of an act.
I don't know.
No, no, no.
It's actually, it's actually, this is like how I actually feel.
So you look back on it.
I do believe that.
I believe that.
No, it doesn't.
Do you think it's a it's something somewhat of like a self-loathing?
Because if you believe you, it's not self-loathing at all.
If you believe that for other women.
No, I really genuinely believe that.
If you wish the best for other women, just please.
Okay.
If you do wish the best for other women, if you say that you think that it's a dangerous thing, I would totally agree with you.
And I would fully encourage you to actually voice those concerns on this podcast and voice.
Yeah.
But you actually shoot yourself in the foot when you start to say, well, you know, I don't care.
And I don't care about the marriages that I'm breaking up.
I think that you should be considering.
I'm going to be past that.
Like where I was.
I'm talking about quitting and like not having the opportunity to put my place in a situation where I'm sleeping with a guy because most of the guys on there are married.
And those are the guys that I felt like at that time I liked because they kind of like left you alone.
Like they didn't like text you all the time.
They went back to their normal lives.
But as a whole, where I am now today, April 23rd, 2022, or 2024, sorry.
What?
What?
Okay, I mean, but I think that's like I am genuinely like two years ago.
I know.
But I don't think that girls should do OnlyFans either.
That's cool.
That's great, but you need to hold to those convictions.
You can't sit there and say, that doesn't have to do with the marriage thing, like in how I felt in the time.
But we're not talking about how you felt at the time.
We're talking about how you feel currently.
And you've told me multiple, you've told everybody multiple times that you still would do the you would act the exact same way as everybody in that situation.
Yes, you're just not making any sense.
It's a bit contradictory.
But I think that the point that everyone's trying to get across to you, and I think you should try and actually really listen closely to what people are saying to you.
Yeah.
Because so you've got two conflicting beliefs, and that's what we call cognitive dissonance.
You're saying one thing, but your actions actually are doing another thing.
Okay.
Right?
Or you're saying one thing and you have two contrary beliefs at the same time that are existing in your head.
So it's cognitive dissonance.
So if you do wish the best for other women, you should wish the best for yourself as well.
And the reason why I ask if there's something going on in your personal life, and you obviously don't have to divulge that, is because when Priya said to you before that she'll pray for you, you had a very visceral reason.
Yeah, I'm not religious.
But you said, but the way that you said it and the way that you ignored her made it seem like that you were insulted by somebody wanting the best for you and wanting to pray for you.
Yeah, do you feel like that this is coming from a place of self-loathing, maybe something that you need to have a look at internally and hold yourself to the same sort of respect as you hold other women with?
I mean, no, people have to bring up like religion into certain situations.
I'm not imposing my religion on you.
I'm saying that I am wishing the best for you.
And the way that I do that is by prayer because I believe in God.
Sorry for being rude and being like so demonic with your praying thing.
Well, no, but what Jake is saying is that it seems like it's something that you're trying to project outwards in the sense of not accepting somebody else's care, help, whatever it may be.
How they do it.
Their version of caring for somebody else.
Whoa, okay.
Like it's not like I was imposing my religion on you and trying to shove it down your throat.
I simply stated something very positive towards you.
Or I apologize for that.
No, that's totally fine.
But that's besides the point.
What we're saying is that it seems like there's something that you are hurting.
Oh, I'm coming back to you.
No, I think that a big thing is like I want to get out of the sex work.
And I think that it's very important to not continue to do the sex work.
And most people can tell you, and I can tell you, I've done many degenerate things in the past.
I've come from a background where I didn't find faith until I was 25, 26, and I've done all the sex, drugs, rock and roll, violence, you name it, I've done it, right?
So if you looked at a CV, I would not have a position to judge.
But, you know, as you go along and you come out of this, then at some point you have to realize that the way that you previously acted was wrong and that you have to actually have a contrary view to that and you have to try and actually project that into the world.
You can't hold on to it and say, well, that was fine.
You're not active for other females.
Like, for instance, when I was in the industry, like, traumatic things happened.
And so.
Yeah.
Sorry.
No, you're also like, my biggest thing was like, sorry.
I think that this is what we were getting at.
My biggest thing was like, making sure like other girls knew about the guys that did the wrong stuff.
But then there's this cancel culture where people cancel you out.
Yeah.
Where people cancel you out for like calling the bad people out in the porn industry because like those are the guys that get away with it because they're just quiet about it.
And I would encourage you to keep doing that, but also hold that standard for yourself though.
If you have a standard for other women and you wish the best for them, you should hold that standard for yourself.
You need to have that same protection that you have over other women in that industry for yourself.
Because we all want the best for you and we want you to want the best for you.
Yeah, that's what I want.
But yeah, thank you.
I think that maybe because it's like kind of a bit combative and sometimes it's funny, this podcast, and we all get into each other and we all make fun of each other.
Sometimes maybe your natural reaction would be to be like, oh no, what I did was fine.
It's no worries.
I didn't care about them.
But we can see that you're not a terrible person.
And deep down, you would.
Thank you.
And deep down, you would feel bad about those things.
But I think I would encourage you to just come out and say that, okay, yes, I know what I did was wrong because every one of us at this table has been a lot of fun.
I'm sorry if it insults anyone that like I have a strong opinion on like the marriage thing.
Like I think, but like that's like getting into politics, I guess.
Like, I don't really want to do that because my opinion on it is very opinionated and stuff.
But I think that you guys are right.
Like it's insulting to people that do want to be wives and walk down the aisle.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And you intuit that, and it's good to just come out and say, even if it does make you a little bit emotional, we've all had these moments before.
We've had to come to grips with ourselves in our past and these sorts of things as well.
So yeah, I mean, you actually said at the start of the podcast that you wanted to talk about some of the dangers of the industry.
I'd really encourage you to do that because that's actually a very positive thing.
So if you do have advice for some young ladies who might be struggling with something similar.
Yeah, absolutely.
So I think a lot of things that happen with OnlyFans to start is the fact that the industry, even though it's OnlyFans and you're self-employed, a lot of the girls get connected with the actual porn industry, especially here in California.
They get caught up with the agencies that then ultimately control who they shoot with.
And of course, like I'm sure a lot of people know the porn industry is really toxic and the girls are like, I don't want to say being exploited, but like they're being, they don't have a voice for themselves.
So they like let these agencies and like do these shoots and they don't really want to actually be doing that.
And then it gets more extreme.
There's problems with drugs, like girls that do drugs, which actually I don't do drugs aside from weed.
I'm a harm reductionist for a company called Dance Safe.
I go to music festivals and we set up and we're like not promoting drugs, but we're doing harm reduction like for people that want to go to festivals and take ecstasy and stuff like that.
Because ultimately people are going to always forever like do drugs.
Like they're going to take the ecstasy and with fentanyl being a real thing now.
My dad died of it last year.
Sorry to hear that.
And so there's probably some people that probably something there in terms of that experience.
Yeah, but I've always been doing the harm reduction thing because like I did partake in that lifestyle for a little bit when I was a younger age, like 16 and I bought like synthetic molly.
So like I've been testing the drugs since a long time.
But back to my main thing is about the porn industry is like you get caught up in that.
And then if you're doing OnlyFans, you're also like, you need to be good at social media.
You need to be good at networking.
And you need to be good at all those things.
Otherwise, the girls are giving like 60% of their company away to these like yeah, their income.
So they're selling their like vagina online pretty much for absolutely nothing.
And also, yeah, I mean, and then I guess the last thing I have to say is like, I've heard on the show a million times that like no like top value guy, and this is like even the guys on Seeking are going to want to date somebody and go exclusive with somebody that's like talking to other men.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
And what's your point with that?
My point with that is like, like, yeah, like you have to settle down and just see one guy and not be on OnlyFans and not do sex work.
That's what?
You think that's bad?
No, I think that's good.
To like be give it all up and not do sex work and not do OnlyFans.
Well, hold on.
You just stated two different things.
Sorry, what did I say?
You said that guys don't want to go exclusive with women who are doing other things.
Guys don't want to be exclusive with girls that are doing like OnlyFans and sex work and things like that because they don't value those women like for what it is, whether they're on Seeking or not.
That's when you meet them.
It doesn't matter if they're on the site and you meet them.
They don't want that.
Do you object to men having the preference of not dating those types of women?
No, I think that I want to, no, I'm just saying like, it's really like, cause I'm, I guess where I'm saying that now is because like, I would like to be an exclusive relationship with one of the guys I met on Seeking, but I couldn't give up sugaring.
I guess it's addicting.
So I went back to it and then I lost it.
But I'm just saying, like, this isn't about me and my arrangement right now.
I guess, like, the reason why I wanted to come on here is to talk about how dangerous the porn and OnlyFans industry is.
Because like, I had come encounter with like a guy that came in that slept with me knowing that he had gonorrhea, didn't disclose it.
Like, yeah, like all these really.
And then like people faking their STD test, like that's a huge thing.
It's like they'll edit their.
Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Didn't you say that you were sleeping with like 10 men at the same time?
Yeah, and I make them get STD tested.
But do you think they're sleeping with 10 women at the same time?
No, they're not like the men I'm not.
So wouldn't you be the risk factor in all those relationships?
With the porn industry, yes, absolutely.
Like it gets really scary with the STD stuff, but I didn't really know that going into it.
So the reason why I started OnlyFans was actually like...
Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Let's stay focused.
You're going all over the place here.
Sure.
So you accused the guy of, did he knowingly give you gonorrhea or was he, how do you know he, maybe he didn't know.
The girl that called me after the shoot actually?
No, he was an OnlyFans dude.
He was actually signed on with an agency called Hussy Models.
So it's in the porn industry.
Yeah.
Yeah, so a sex worker.
Yeah, so like a sex worker.
Yeah.
Was it in the context of work that he gave you the STD?
In the context of...
Like, was it a shooting scene?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
But it wasn't a scene that I signed on.
He reached out to me and was like, hey, I'm signed with Hussy Models.
Do you want to do this shoot?
And I was new in the industry, so I said yes.
And then the girl called me after was like, you didn't just shoot with Mike because he's been sleeping with me and like got the exposure of gonorrhea.
But like, yeah.
And so that was traumatic for me because actually, like, shortly after this agency that we test through for STD testing for the porn industry, it's in Tampa.
It's called Talent Testing.
They told me that I have like MGE, which is like another STI.
So at that point, I was like really freaked out about it.
Isn't that like a breach of duty of care?
I know I'm talking about business, but isn't that company kind of like liable for not making sure that their talent?
Yeah, so he was, but that's the thing.
They didn't assign us to work together because I wasn't signed with an agency.
This is actually my third weekend to the ever even doing only fans.
Like I kind of blew up on my Twitter and stuff.
Like a lot of people wanted to work, a lot of big porn people wanted to work with me, but I didn't know anything about porn or like what I was getting into.
But really, like I stopped.
I tried to stop change the split.
Yeah, I tried to like stop sugaring.
So that's why I did only OnlyFans, because I knew, like, on me.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Well, there are women who have come out of the industry.
Yeah.
And they have turned their lives around and they've got a great message to spread.
And I would encourage you to use your experiences as a positive because lots of people have lots of different experiences.
And many people will go through that thing where they think, okay, I've got a really nasty past.
I've done some really terrible things.
Now it's my time to accept that what I did was wrong.
Yeah.
And that it's wrong for other people to do it.
No, absolutely.
It really is.
That's a good message.
And the drug harm reduction thing, honestly, that's going to save lives.
So, you know, if you want that silver lining and all of this, like someone might watch this and they might go get their drugs tested and not dive a fental over there.
Yeah, I just did a festival.
It's good that you've created, you know, they come up and they test their drugs and like, I'm an orcan distributor.
That's great.
That's really good.
Your intentions are really, really great.
We just want you to have those same convictions for yourself.
Yeah, and for people that are married.
Exactly.
We have them too.
This is like a little daughter learning from her mom.
That's wholesome.
It's beautiful.
Seriously, you should be proud of that part.
Like, that's really, if it saves one life, like, that's that makes it worth it.
You know what I mean?
Seriously.
So, yeah.
I mean, there's a silver lining and there's positives to draw from it.
But I think that as long as it doesn't come from a place of blaming other people and saying, oh no, it was the horrible man who got me into the porn industry.
No, you made that.
You made that.
I take full responsibility for the decisions I made.
If I can give any advice to women, like, and this can go on, like, for all the downsides of it, it's just like, don't, like, another thing, too, is I noticed like when I was doing seeking, it was a lot to be more discreet and it wasn't so like publicly online.
And then once I went online, like, people devalued me as a person like so much more.
Like, hold on, hold on.
Nobody even took me seriously.
I'm sorry, I'm going to get pushed back here.
Sure.
Okay.
So we can have this like moment here where you're having this revelation here.
It doesn't mean jack shit unless you actually take some action.
Yeah.
Do you currently have an active OnlyFans?
Will you delete it right now?
Yes.
Can you pull up my Twitter and look at it?
No, your Twitter has fucking porn on it.
What do you mean?
Wait, wait, wait.
Can I read you something that I wrote?
No, I don't want to pull it.
We can't pull up your Twitter.
It's totally TOS.
I will delete it.
That's right.
And secondly, you said you're addicted to seeking, sugaring.
I deleted my seeking arrangements.
You've already deleted it because I was about to ask you, will you delete your seeking?
Yes.
Absolutely.
Yes.
Let's do it.
Yeah.
Yes.
We'll do one of those interventions where we get a three-month update and she's like, don't you wanna do it?
Wait, wait, don't.
Hold on.
We're just gonna have to.
I gotta say, no, don't fucking.
Bro, stop, Sit the fuck down.
Bro, we don't want to look.
You got a fucking tattoo?
What the fuck?
It's a snake because I got a lot of stuff.
Wait, let me tell you why.
Because what I learn in the industry is that, like, snakes, they shed their skin so you can like shed a new skin.
Yeah, shed your skin.
Yeah, but Brian raises a good point here in the sense that you do have all these things active and that there is a sense of accountability.
I do really want to keep that.
So you do have these things active and that there is an accountability and we can have this moment all we want.
But at the end of the day, it comes down to taking action and responsibility.
So words, talk is really cheap with these things.
So that's true.
That guy Slingshot donated $199.99.
Where is Andrew Wilson when we need him?
Abdul, get the rocks ready.
What does that mean?
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Don't disrespect the lovely male guests that we have currently.
Come on.
Thank you, Slingshot.
Like, I'm serious.
I think he can't bring it up because of the YouTube terms of service, not because he doesn't want to look at your Twitter.
Oh, yeah.
Bro, you have, like, nude photos.
I'm sorry.
Okay, you have nude stuff still.
But I haven't posted a nude.
Your Twitter still links.
You say you post very often on OnlyFans on your Twitter.
That's my agency that wrote that.
So at one point, I did have a lot of stuff.
So it's your Twitter the box with you.
Is it not yours?
Yeah, I still, this is all new.
Like, I really, like, I'm not lying.
I'm turning my computer because I don't want to say that.
Are you willing to delete your screen?
Well, hold on.
I absolutely want to.
I think you have to log in to, I don't have to do that.
Yeah, because I wrote it.
I mean, it says you're currently available now, active now on OnlyFans.
She doesn't even have her phone.
Yeah, it's like somebody that's still logged in.
Chatter.
This is the second time in a week that this has happened to us.
Sorry.
I'm not really actually on it.
I'm still editing.
I'm actually deleting my Twitter, too.
Yeah.
Are you?
I am.
Are we able to do all of that right now?
Sure.
Like a full digital detox, it sounds like.
Yeah, let's go.
This is your intervention.
Yeah.
Yes.
We could get a scalp on the show.
Yeah.
A scalp.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And OnlyFans scalp.
Get rid of it.
100%.
What does your phone look like?
What does my phone look like?
My phone.
That's evasion.
I'm not going to go with that.
No, no, no.
He was going to grab it for you so you could delete these.
I just did it.
You know, I'm just wanting to, you know, I think it's fair for people to be skeptical in situations like this.
I agree.
I really want to delete it, though.
I really want to delete it.
Because I really want to be in an exclusive relationship with my arranged.
I think the trouble is that we don't know what your intentions are, whether you're serious or not, or whatever.
And also, you are impaired as well.
and your emotion you're you're also oh my god oh my god We can wait and see.
We can leave it.
Honestly, she is.
Okay, come on.
And you're getting emotional, and nobody wants to hound on somebody who's impaired and emotional.
And it's a tough situation.
It's fine.
It's a lose-lose, to be honest.
It's fine.
I mean, you'll see that I'm off of the industry.
If people go to my channel, honestly, I'm like.
If you are in a community, you guys want to be supportive because she's crying.
Yeah, thank you.
People on the internet.
Stop.
People on the internet would be like, oh, Brian's a fucking person.
That's not what I wanted.
People on the internet would be like, oh, Brian's too hard.
She has no heart.
You've been very nice to me.
I'm very skeptical.
I'm very, very skeptical about it.
I've been sitting here for a year and a half having these girls come in, come out, talk a big game, fucking crocodile tears, all this shit.
I don't know if I'm fucking jaded, but I'm very skeptical in these kind of situations.
That's why I'm not sitting here and being like, oh, like, no, I'm not.
This is actually real life.
Like, I'm not lying.
Who are the biggest jaded ones?
Like, what have you seen people do?
When they just come and talk a big game and then go make it.
No, well, it's not even like, oh, I'm going to change.
It's just like, honestly, I don't believe.
I don't believe anybody after doing the show for like a year and a half.
Well, you have trust issues then.
Well, I don't trust a lot of people either, but I think a lot of your genuine thoughts came out, you know, after repeatedly being asked about the husband thing.
That was pretty big, a big deal to me.
The thing about McDonald's, a McDonald's worker.
That guy Slingshot donated $199.
Look, if you're being serious and genuine, then I'm super proud of you and happy.
But I can't help but be skeptical based on your careless attitude starting earlier.
Just saying.
I understand where you're coming from with the marriage thing and being careless with that.
But in a serious note, I do take a lot of time.
I'm researching these studies that are doing non-profit organizations for SCD testing.
And what they do is they allow for us talent people in the people in the industry to go to.
It's like $200.
For the love that is all holy, move the F on.
Yeah, I think that's what I'm saying.
She's clearly on something.
This podcast has turned into a therapy session.
You know what I want to talk about is wait, really quick.
Would you be able to grab your phone and see if your girlfriends are down to just fucking hop on?
On the phone?
Very good idea.
No, well, come on.
Just tell them to fucking drive over, come up.
If you can charge my phone, tell them they only get one.
Yeah, can somebody charge your phone?
Shoot your short.
I say, why not?
We'll throw them on the podcast for a little bit.
Or on the phone if they want to check.
Can I take a break?
Yeah, if you want, that's fine.
If you want to step away for a little bit.
It's the one with the circle on the back.
Let me read this chat here.
We have.
Oh, Dylan Lawley.
Sorry, Brixon.
I just missed.
I just missed Andrew.
Shirt Freedom Over Everything.
Shout out.
No, not that one.
Black Guns Matter.
Okay.
At Make Politicians Afraid Again.
Yi.
Okay, disavow.
Disavow.
Oh, Lord.
Modest Heek in Madonna.
The legend.
The legend himself.
Brixon, huge W girl to wants the sympathy votes in spot and 1% of question for panel.
What are your thoughts on Nala, previous of Girl on Whatever, who recently converted back to Christianity?
I mean, I'm less skeptical of her than, but I mean, I think there's actually perfectly valid reason to be skeptical of that.
That's on Hollywood.
Same here.
Good for her, though, if it's legit.
You don't really know the ins and outs of somebody's personal life.
As a Christian, your job is to will the good of the other and to hope and pray for the good of the other.
And I hope that she's genuine and I hope she's sincere.
But if I were her and if I were turning this big corner in my life, I'd get off the internet 100% and I'd focus on my private life.
I wouldn't be going on Michael Knowles' show and all of that.
But, you know, it could be genuine.
It could.
It's hard to say.
And like right now as well, it's also hard to say.
And I hope I wish the best for her.
You know what I want to talk about while my phone is charging is females who see men as objects and just a bank account, but they still want a healthy marriage or a successful marriage with a high-value man.
Like, that's like my main it.
We'll come to that in just a sec.
Let me just get through a couple things.
Nick, can you pull up Twitch?
Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
Drop us a follow, drop us a Prime sub if you have one.
Twitch.tv slash whatever.
Brian looks as nervous as a blank in church waiting for that chick to violate YouTube's TOS.
Good point.
I'd be nervous.
I mean, it's been honestly even before the show.
I was having some hesitations.
So real Trump.
Thank you, man.
Nervous as a, oh, I think the blanket there is a 3-0 faux.
So real Trump.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Back to Twitch.
Guys, twitch.tv/slash whatever.
Drops a follow, drops a prime sub.
If you have one, thank you guys for all the follows over there and all the primes.
Brian McGirl left, apparently.
Wait, she left?
Yeah, Joe tried to go, but apparently she left.
Oh, she's like.
It seems like she did it.
Okay.
Like, wait, but Joe, just a point of point of clarification, Joe, like, because she said she did want to take a break.
Like, did she just want to go for a walk or she, like, she said she's leaving.
Yeah.
Yeah, so that's, I have good, I had good reason to be skeptical.
I mean, the fact that she just lied right there.
Oh, can I take a little break?
I mean, maybe it was getting to the point of, hey, okay, let's delete your Twitter.
Let's delete your OnlyFans.
We were going to get a scalp.
And then.
So, okay, well, I'm going to take her out of the.
I mean, if she just walks off on false pretenses, I'll just take her out of the description then.
I mean, hey, look, there's a seat for her friend now.
Ask her if she's coming back.
Yeah, can you ask if she's coming back?
Just see if she's coming back, but I'm pretty sure that's a rage quit.
She's in her car.
Okay, sweet.
She's in a car.
Okay.
That makes...
I don't think she should be driving, but...
I don't think she should be driving, but, um, look at that.
Oh, wow.
She got a bunch of attention.
And then as soon as we want to move it on, she, do you know what's funny, bro?
Yeah.
You were just talking about being jaded, and I'm like, please describe to me a scenario where you've been jaded, and then instantly, can I go take a break?
Drives.
And then lies.
And lies.
I mean, look.
Honestly, in a lot of them.
It isn't cool.
A lot of the jadedness actually is shit that the audience doesn't even see.
It's all the bullshit that you have to deal with behind the scenes, the no-shows, the flakes, the rude behavior, the entitled behavior, like the amount of people that will have no shows.
And they'll lie too.
Like, we'll have last-minute cancellations.
It's not just they cancel last minute, that's rude on it in itself, but they'll just lie.
My car broke down.
Oh, I'm sick.
And then you look at their Instagram story later that night.
They're at the bar, they're at the club, they're at the party.
These people lie.
They're super liars.
Doing this show, like some of the shit I hear on the show is like, yeah, it's bad.
But the behavior, like just trying to basically talent coordinate is the most like soul-sucking shit ever, dude.
If it makes you feel better, so we've got four, 500 influences on our books.
We get it all the time.
All the time.
It's a nightmare.
You should see the mental breakdowns I have to deal with, where, like, someone will just fucking pop off.
They're like, I'm going to...
Why don't you...
Sorry.
Not to stare at me.
Wait, where's Maddie?
She's behind you.
Oh.
Okay.
Holy shit.
She came out nowhere.
She's barely moved.
No, no, that's cool.
She had a full breakdown.
She's like, fuck these guys.
They're F and that.
I'm like, I'm like, get off Instagram.
Get off.
She's having a full mental breakdown.
She's trashing the branch.
Like, you guys are this, that.
She wakes up the next day.
She's like, oh yeah, sorry, I had a breakdown.
So, yeah.
Maddie, you can take that seat.
She just drove off heavily impaired.
That's why she can't date a police officer.
Wow, actually really good observation there.
You're not like supposed to drive.
No, no.
A lot of people say, I have my medical card, but you still can't drive impaired.
Yeah, that's it.
Anyways, let's not give her any more attention than is.
I feel like talking needs isn't like disinherited.
She already ate it.
She already ate it.
She's sitting on the street.
She got some stuff.
Wait, did you see that?
Madison took the seat booster off.
She's like, I'm not going to sit on that.
I'll maim her.
Yeah.
I don't know.
What do you think?
When girls are look impaired like that, is it even good to talk to them?
It's not good to drive.
Like, I don't know.
I feel like it isn't necessary because it's so rare, but like, do I need to start including like, hey, please don't come on the show like drunk or high?
Yes, I do think you do.
Yeah, Brian.
But most people come, like, everybody here sober.
Yes.
Yeah.
I mean, we're just talking about it.
Why do I have to add this thing in the pre-show where it's like, please don't come on?
Because you have weird and strange people come on your show.
I guess that's right.
The raccoon was my favorite.
It's a raccoon.
Yeah, it is probably a good idea.
I never really watched the podcast.
He had a raccoon in the podcast.
Just don't touch it.
Didn't she go like this?
She used the raccoon to bark at Brian.
That's right.
It was a taxidermy raccoon.
Why did she have that even?
I don't even know if people are being serious.
How can you even take someone who fell at face value?
all of the time that was just dedicated to that.
Do we call that was the rage quit?
Is that categorized as a rage quit?
I think she got meltdown.
Meltdown, yeah, meltdown.
She finished melting down.
I think it was the pressure of deleting the stuff.
Meltdown walking.
Meltdown after the title to one meltdown.
Trumpet melts down.
Trumpet meltdown.
Maddie's a pro at this at this point.
I hope nobody trusts issues.
I'm just trying to get over on the way home.
Good point, Nick.
I don't know if you guys heard him.
She said that I had trust issues, then lied about wanting to take a break and just left.
Yep, proved your point.
I mean, I was giving her pushback there in her moment, but I mean, I don't know.
I was kind of skeptical.
So she's probably like listening to some gangster rap and driving back to run over a family of ducks.
Wait, what?
Poor ducks.
Thank you for Brian's dad under her car.
Oh, the other thing.
Oh, I do have to.
Did I read this one sci-fi to the future Maka's worker?
Men are paying you for SEX because they don't want their wife to kiss their kids with the mouth.
Ooh, okay.
Okay, that thing.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it, I guess.
Oh, really quick, Nick, could you pull up our Instagram at whatever?
I wanted to.
So, guys, I know I mentioned at the beginning of the stream that our message button is broken.
I'll come back to the sports donated $200.
Where has he been?
Trauma llama says meth is a hell of a drug.
Methed up pistachios are a special treat.
Who has lied?
It is what they do.
Not shocking at all.
The only downside is we are still talking about her dumb ass.
Let's talk about something else.
We will move on.
I do want to say this about the great legendary Grid One Motorsports.
He's a brave and a decent man.
He's a pioneer.
He's back.
He's back.
Yo, dude, good to see you in the chat.
Grid one.
Food forth donated $200.
According to my calculations, the average male ding-dong is 5.25 inches.
50 bodies X 5.25 is 262.5 inches.
That is almost 22 feet of difting dong.
If her body count is taller than me, it's too high.
That's a good way.
I like that.
I like that measurement.
That's good.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Thank you for the math, man.
Always, always very helpful.
And thank you.
So, do you think your phone's charged?
You want to see if you're to one or two of your girlfriends.
Let's get them on the show.
Let's get them on the show.
Let's tell them that we got Arizona iced tea that they can have, I guess.
That's the sale, I guess.
That's the sale.
Don't call them, but can you tech, or maybe call them at the same time?
Or step off?
Yeah, just step out and call them.
Maybe call them, like.
We can't do it on camera.
We can't do it on camera just because wiretapping shit.
Oh, wow, that's a good idea.
Felony.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, guys, we are going to wait.
Oh, man.
We didn't even get into all her notes.
It's so sad.
Oh, yeah.
Pull up the Instagram.
Guys, please.
So, I mentioned this at the beginning of the show.
Our message button is broken.
Here's the thing, though.
Some people get it.
And these are typically, you might see the message button if you've messaged us before or you've interacted with the page before.
You're following us.
You might see it then.
But what I want you guys to do on that very first photo, the casting photo, Nick, could you click it?
I've opened up the comments.
Yeah.
I've just opened up the comments on it.
If there's a message button, just type one.
If there's no message button, leave a comment saying two.
One, wait, hold on.
Just say, no, that's going to be too complicated.
Just say, you'll have to refresh it.
So if there's a message button, say there's a message button.
If there's no message button, say you don't see a message button.
And this is going to be, so if you guys can, go to Instagram.com slash whatever.
Because we're trying to figure out what's going on with our page.
It's messing up.
It's making it harder for our casting because our message button is broken.
So just leave a message on that photo.
I'll look at it later.
So appreciate it, guys.
Also, be sure to go subscribe to Jake's OnlyFans page.
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Just kidding.
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No, OnlyFans?
Should I?
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Definitely should.
All right, we have, let's see here.
Let's talk to Lauren.
What's the story of how you met your husband?
Okay, I was working as a nurse at the time, brand new nurse, 21 years old.
We went to a happy hour with my coworkers at a restaurant, like Slash Bar kind of thing.
And so my coworker who was dating his brother invites him.
He comes in.
And okay, so we meet and I thought he was absolutely gorgeous.
Well, fast forward, we were dating a couple months.
And I assumed and he told me because I asked for him to verify that he was my age, 22, 21, whatever I was at the time.
Made sense because we were at the bar.
And then around, I don't know, a couple months later, he took me behind my place of work and said he had to tell me a secret, like something that was very important.
And I just kind of looked at him like, okay, you know, what?
You have a family, kids, wife, like, what is this?
And he said, I'm actually turning 19.
And I had to tell you because my family's having a get-together.
I had never met his family and they want me to invite you.
And I could not, there was no way I was believing this.
Like, because not that it matters now.
I'm not really huge into the age difference, but at that age, if you're able to, like, he graduated high school when I graduated college.
It was just very bizarre.
And I asked him for his driver's license because I'm like, you've got to be kidding.
Like, please be 40 or something.
And then he handed it to me.
And it was, yeah, he was 18, turning 19.
And he just, well, anyway, I ended up marrying him.
So it doesn't quite matter, but at the time, it was a huge deal to me.
A wild lie.
How long did it take for you to get over it?
It was very hard for me.
Even on our wedding day, I remember thinking, like, dang, like, I still haven't told people like his real age because it was just weird.
I'm sorry.
It was weird.
He was 19 and we only dated for a year and then he proposed and we got married.
But yeah, it was very, very bizarre.
I looked at his ID thinking it was the opposite of a fake ID.
Like, okay, maybe he's just 40 and he wants to look 19.
I don't know.
But no, he had like a Justin Bieber haircut in the photo and I was like, who is this kid?
Yeah.
Huh, okay.
Little white lie.
Fun story.
And all's good, though?
All right.
All's good?
Yeah.
Now it doesn't matter much, you know?
Four-year difference.
Not a big deal.
Good, good, good.
You also said that, or I'll just let you state it, but I'll prompt you.
High body count and S work is what?
Should be what?
Should be a red flag.
It should be immediate disqualifier.
I just think it's absolute degenerate behavior.
I think it's indicative of the type of woman you're going to get.
That kind of stuff is forever.
It's going to be online forever.
You're not going to, like, that can be tracked.
It affects your marriage.
It affects your children.
Yeah, it's just, it's not a wise choice.
And it just shows a lot about a person if they're doing that.
Now, I do 100% believe that a person can move forward from that.
But, you know, you still have to be aware that the man has to know that could be something that could come up in their lifetime.
Okay.
I agree.
I agree.
Immediate disqualification.
What do you consider a high body count for a woman?
Oh, anything over 10.
Anything over 10.
10 and over.
10 over.
Any ladies here?
Any ladies?
I think over five.
Yeah, five is a lot.
It depends now.
I got married when I was 22, so that is absolutely way too high at that age.
I think, you know, now that people are getting married later, which I disagree with, but they're getting married later and later.
Yeah, body counts are going to be a little bit higher unless you're Christian and you have those morals and standards of waiting until after you're married.
Okay.
Let's see here.
Oh, I have a question for you.
So like both of you are involved in healthcare.
You're a pediatrician.
You are.
I was a medication aid.
Medication aid.
All right.
So like it's been this ongoing theme here that like the lads here, we think that nurses are kind of red flags.
What do you guys think about that?
Well, I disagree, but I mean, I don't know.
I think I understand your point about travel nursing, of course, but I guess I don't understand why it would be considered a red flag.
Do you think the hours or they, I don't know.
It could be a couple things.
I mean, maybe a little bit of the trauma as well of being a nurse.
The trauma?
Trauma.
Oh, the trauma.
Yeah.
I think that's why police officers and nurses oftentimes end up together.
I think there's trauma on both sides that you have to kind of work through.
But again, it's the job you took on.
If you have a severe, like a serious passion for it, it's not something that you typically allow to interfere with your relationship.
With everything my husband and I have seen, all the death and everything, like we could not allow that to come in between our, you know, it's like you have to take care of yourself first and your marriage.
And yeah.
It's a not a red flag for me.
It's one of the more green flag industries.
It means they're pretty caring, pretty good people.
Yeah, I didn't know if you were referring to like, is there a Gray's Anatomy type situation?
I mean, they look after you when you're sick.
Like if you get sick, but here's, I mean, maybe you guys can talk a bit about this.
Once you lose your empathy, they start seeing people just as number, not as human.
So it could be the case that it actually starts working in the reverse that they get jaded a little bit.
Sure.
Yeah, I've been a nurse.
Well, I was a nurse for 11 years, and I can say that I personally never held the boundary that you're required to have in terms of not getting too attached to your patients.
I always have been very attached to my patients.
I had worked with cancer children for a very long time.
It's hard not to get emotional and empathetic when a mom hugs you and you know her child is going to be diagnosed with cancer tomorrow and they're telling you, just please, please tell me everything's going to be okay.
And you can't tell them that.
I don't think I've ever lost that, but I also think that does weigh heavily and it does carry through in my everyday life.
I have to work very hard to separate that.
But I don't necessarily think everybody loses empathy.
What I will say is that I have met older nurses where I say they're desensitized.
They need to book it out of the out of the job field because they're clearly not even.
Yeah, and I've experienced it with even the care of my own father, like meeting nurses like that, where they just really don't care.
They're just looking at a patient like a subject, honestly.
Would you say that yours or your husband's job is more traumatizing?
I would think my husband's, he works in Harrisburg City.
So in Pennsylvania, it's a really very, very bad area.
And I just, I watched high-speed chases that he was just in on Friday.
Police activity.
Are you watching it live on YouTube?
No, no, I watched it after the fact.
He won't send me any of that live because I would be, I have all the faith in the world.
My husband, he's been police officer of the year for three years in a row, officer of the county.
I have all the faith in the world, but at the end of the day, there's just criminals.
What do you think about the defund the police movement?
Hey, defund the police.
You should go on a list of people.
And when you call because you need the police, they should say, sorry, you voted to defund the police.
They'd love style.
Absolutely.
Yep.
Yeah.
Really quick, just bringing it back to nurses.
This is kind of.
So, okay, this is like a theory I have.
It could be totally baseless.
But like, if you're dating a nurse, let's say she works in the hospital.
Aren't hospitals like really disgusting?
Yes.
Well, I guess it was then.
But so I was like, it occurs to me, like, if you're dating a nurse, rule.
Like, she brings back.
Absolutely, but your immune system would be so legit after that.
Wait, the guy or the girl?
Yeah, both of you.
She brings it home.
That's what I'm thinking, bro.
Immune system gets really, my kids and my husband and I, we have great immune systems, you know, but also you should, she should remove her scrubs, get a shower, take out the shit.
Of course, like that.
She's just a shower afterwards.
You and your germaphobia, bro.
No, I swear, like, I think about this shit.
I'm like, if I'm dating a nurse, bro, like, yeah, it's understanding.
What about the MRSA, the C. diff?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is C. diff transmissible between her.
Yeah, she's going to bring back C. diff.
Well, you don't bring that up.
C. diff plus.
Plustridium difficial.
You're going to have to English that finish.
It's found in your stool, basically.
Your what?
Stool.
Your poop.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Other than a GI bleed, other than a gastrointestinal bleed, it's probably the most potent smelling poo you'll ever see.
This has a particular fuss smell.
Yeah.
And that can only be cleansed through hand washing with soap and water, not with sanitizer.
And then I think the other thing where it can potentially be an issue with dating is that nurses are typically like surrounded by very like by doctors, which in terms of like are up there in terms of high-value men.
And so they're constantly around these men.
And nurses.
In a nursing home, there's no, no, there's like one doctor.
There's no chat grandpa's woken or anything.
Okay, well, yeah.
So what do you think?
I'm thinking, this is what I think.
My husband thought the same.
You think an attending physician looks like McSteamy on Gray's Anatomy kind of thing?
I'm saying McSteamy.
Okay.
But aren't a lot of nurses like pining after the doctors?
I was thinking about it.
I would love to speak on that.
So I have worked in, I worked in a hospital for two years.
That's where I met my boyfriend who hopefully will be my husband someday.
And you had said, I want to bring it back to second, you had said that the older nurses are like, quote unquote, like not as good.
No, desensitized.
Desensitized.
Okay.
I actually would say rules reversed on that because I worked in ICU, neuro-ICU.
I worked on like inpatient gen surge.
I think our newer nurses are having a harder time having that empathy, but separating it.
Because if you have so much empathy for your patient, it does get in the way of patient care.
You have, you make different decisions and the outcomes are different.
Are you taking in the patient's considerations as much or are you pushing on what you think that they should have?
You keep them number one, the patient, if you're super empathetic.
You keep them number one in their wishes and you'll carry it through till the very end.
Yeah, I just meant older women desensitized, but in terms of the attending physicians, we're talking like, they're like old, like older.
They're like older.
They're not McSteemy.
McSteamy is the residents who are in massive amounts of crippling debt.
And no, no, I can honestly say, no, never once have I looked at a doctor and thought, yes, I want that to be my wife.
A lot of nurses do.
Wait, a lot of nurses do want doctors.
Oh, yeah.
One of Wisconsin.
Okay, cool.
Well, yeah, so you're, because I mean, you said you're 20, you're dating, what's it, eight years?
Yep.
28 resident physician?
Yeah.
Surgeon.
Surgeon, yeah.
Yeah.
What kind of surgery?
Orthopedic?
No.
You don't have to say, you don't have to.
I'm not going to say that.
That's fine.
They'll find out.
Ben Shapiro has stated, you know, what you say as a doctor, healthcare.
Cannon will be used against you in a court of law.
Can't say anything.
But, like, when he goes to work, he comes home.
Nurses, of course, they're hitting on him.
I kind of like it.
I'm like, okay.
You're like, yeah, that's my man.
Yeah, I like it.
And I never worry when he comes home.
You know, I see, I have met some of them.
Wait, question.
Does it go down in the janitorial closet?
No.
Not with you guys.
I'm not saying you guys, but like in the middle, yes.
Like, do you see nurses getting it on with, you know, does it go down?
It's happened at my nursing, huh?
Does it go down?
They had sex on the night.
Are they fucking in the hospital?
The old people?
No, it was like CNA.
Yeah, there's a bit of guss going around.
It's hard.
It's hard.
It depends.
Like, in the psych hospital, I know what was happening on night shift.
That was very evident.
Everybody knew it.
But I work day shift, and there's not a chance for an RN to walk away from her desk.
There's just not.
Somebody will get attacked.
We don't have security, so we have to take people to the ground.
But yeah, it happens.
Okay.
We have a chat here from Graham's.
Hey, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Yes, nurses are a curse.
I remember having four nurses in the room while I sponge bathed.
What?
When it came to watching my surgery.
Junk.
I had four nurses just waiting to see me.
Just to watch my.
Well, that is very unfortunate for you.
I could honestly say that would never be something we would want to watch.
It's like it was on display.
Yeah, we don't look at body parts and think that in a sexual way at all.
I broke Teresa at the same time.
That was hard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's again.
Like you're like looking at.
What?
You're making like a weird face.
What was that?
What was I like looking at my face?
Oh, because your eyes get crossed when you try to look at them.
Yeah, your eyes.
You're crossing your eyes.
Do it again.
That was funny.
It's just funny.
Wait, did you?
Did you?
You should just do that throughout the show.
Yeah, no.
She doesn't want to be ready for it.
She doesn't want to do it?
What about it?
I'm going to strain her eyes or something.
She'll do a call.
I asked, do you want to do a call?
I'm like, no.
What is she doing?
Cowardice.
Cowardice.
She's just saying she doesn't want to come on.
Like, what's her main school?
She's scheduled to come on, too.
But what's her main gripe?
But what does she most not want to be challenged on?
The body count shit.
Maybe, yeah.
Guess what started it?
Yeah, yesterday.
Is she good at defending the position?
Her best friend was talking mostly.
She was just sitting there, but I think that's what.
Yeah.
The Arizona iced tea wasn't enough of a.
Like, those are like a buck each.
Like, that's a pretty good deal.
Right?
I didn't mention the Arizona.
I don't think they're going to be able to do it.
We've got like 40 grams of high fructose corn syrup.
They're not down.
Okay.
Wait, so they like, do you guys have other stuff to do in like LA or you pretty much just like came here for this?
No, we've been here since the 20th.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
We leave tomorrow.
Oh, okay.
So, yeah, but we did come here for this.
What do people?
We'll pop a champagne bottle for her.
What about that?
She's down, you think, or no?
I can try again.
I mean, if she, if she, because she's from Wisconsin, too.
Yeah, they can like.
They can talk their language.
Two Wisconsins and two Aussies.
That's dangerous.
And then the Fosters.
I know, it would have been fun.
Maybe just a little next.
Okay.
Well, basically, okay.
I think we already went over the whole hardware.
Does she?
Yeah.
What does she do?
CNA?
You'll meet her.
They'll pick me up.
Okay, I will.
Bring her up.
Tell her she has to come on because I have to go right to bed.
Basically, I think my understanding was the argument was just like men need to accept women's past, and they must be compelled to date women who've had sex with 100 men previously.
That's basically your argument.
So, the first group of girls, when I had my first episode, we talked about the 100K, but for them, they just were more.
No, the 100 body count.
Oh, the 100 body count.
Yeah, like if a girl's got a 100 body count, like men are compelled to.
Yeah, so they just, I think their main point was that it should just be forgiven, especially if he is a Christian man or she's a Christian woman, that it should just be all forgiven, and that's the end of the story.
Like, just forgive.
That's it.
Okay.
Yeah.
So, is their position kind of it would be wrong to not date them because of their past.
So, they should be forced.
They should be compelled to date these women.
Right.
Wait, is that actually their position?
They should be compelled to date.
It shouldn't be a factor in deciding if you should date a woman just because of her body count.
And I also mentioned high-value man.
I didn't like the term high-value man.
I don't like it either, but yeah, I didn't like, well, they compared it to.
Huh?
Why?
Well, what I was saying is a man of high standards just wouldn't date someone with a high body count.
But I consider someone that works at McDonald's as just like a moral, hard-working person.
Right, no, that's perfect.
That's fine.
Do you know what I mean?
I think that's why the McDonald's thing was a bit controversial because it's like.
Yeah, those are the two force girls.
Yeah, but like, not all values ascribe to money.
You know what I mean?
Right.
Like, I've had fuck with money and I've had like unlimited money, but like, I still feel like I've always had the same morals and the same loyalty and the same ethics.
And I think that is what high value really is.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
I mean, how many dickheads do we know that have heaps of money?
Yeah.
But are they high value?
You know what I mean?
Right.
So I think that's something to think about.
Yeah.
True.
We do have mans of med tech.
I work in the lab in Wisconsin Hospital.
Practice.
Let me pull that up.
Practice what you preach and nothing comes home with you.
I think all of us healthcare workers in general can be hard to date.
We see all the weird shit.
Yes.
Based.
Yeah.
I mean, if they're a travel nurse, then it's just like they make lots of money.
Yeah, but don't really care.
Good for them, I guess.
David Treziak, be nice.
Keep Nalax Schmerschin one on set.
What?
Have to go to Pool Game, really, if had time.
Want to hear more from the lovely black woman and the lovely black-haired girl more by the guy.
They speak well.
Okay.
Thank you, David Treziak.
I'm not sure.
What is Nalak Schmirshin?
I want to have a clue.
I have no idea.
Clarify, David Treziak.
You want to hear more from the lovely black woman?
Which guy?
You speak better than me.
You must be talking about you.
No, excuse me.
The guy?
Yeah, I think he's talking about Priya.
The girl with the guy.
No, next to the guy.
Or the girl next to him.
Yeah, okay.
Now it all makes sense.
Ask me anything.
I don't know.
What the fuck?
Me too.
Ask you anything.
Yes, because I like talking about this as well.
I could go to my notes really quick here for you.
Hold on.
Where is it?
One sec.
We're getting there, boys.
We are getting there.
Where are the notes?
I don't even see anything.
Really?
Wow.
Oh, Karina, okay.
You said that, so your current boyfriend is your second boyfriend.
And you go, you, so you would, during college, you'd go on dates, each and, oh, and each and every one of those men, they would always protect you And your choice to not get into a relationship, not do, not be sexual.
However, when it came to females, the women, your maybe female friends or colleagues, acquaintances.
They were around me, they were the ones who would always try to pressure you to make you lose your virginity, get a boyfriend, smoke weed, all the things you didn't want to do.
Do you want to talk a bit about that?
Yeah, so that has been going on since I was in high school.
And it was to the point where like there was this one girl, she would trick me, and she would be like, hey, let's go out, let's go to the mall.
And there would be a guy there, and she's like, oh, you know, I just want you to have a boyfriend.
You know, it's time, you know?
And that went on even in college.
And I thought it would be different because I'm meeting different girls from different states and all this stuff.
But it didn't.
And I told myself I didn't want to have my first boyfriend until I was like 21.
So when I did go on dates, I would let them know, like, hey, I'm not ready for that.
I'm too young.
I'm still a virgin, you know.
And they would respect that and they wouldn't talk about it.
But if I were to tell females, hey, you know, I don't want to have a boyfriend.
I want to, I don't have, I don't want to have a boyfriend right now.
I want to remain like, I want to stay a virgin.
They'll be like, what?
No, you need to.
You need to like lose it.
You need to do this.
You need to do that.
And with the weed part, I did not want to smoke weed.
Like I told all of the girls around me in my dorm, don't want to smoke weed.
So they locked me in their car.
So I was sitting in the back seat and they were sitting beside me and there was two in the front and they locked a car.
So and they started smoking me.
So it was basically a hot fox.
Oh my gosh.
And they told me, they were like, since you don't want to smoke weed, we'll just make you.
Like we'll just, you just have to.
I'd smash a window.
Yeah.
Definitely not.
That's why I always struggled with women because it's hard for me to voice my opinion on what I think about marriage or life or God.
And they just disagree and they put me down.
I've seen guys do dodgy stuff like that as well.
And that's the thing.
Like I was so lucky that the men that I would speak to, you know, or associate myself with, they never degraded me on my choices.
So I was always lucky, but females, I'm not lucky in what I'm saying.
I've seen very similar behavior, not necessarily in my personal life, but even just speaking to women, a lot of the times, it is very much like a peer pressure type of culture with that type of stuff.
It's very interesting.
And like I've had like either past like romantic endeavors and even just male friends that will be very accepting of those types of values and women tend to be a little bit more pushy on them.
It's very interesting.
I've seen very similar.
And it comes from jealousy too because I remember this one female from my high school and I told her I was still a virgin.
She was like, oh, that's nice.
I wish I was still a virgin.
And she just, but she was a little nicer about it, but some of them are not.
It's sad.
Because, yeah, I think it does come a lot of the times from a place of either ignorance or jealousy.
Just, I think people are at some point able to reflect on their own behavior and realize that it doesn't make them feel good, you know, and when you have engaged in that same behavior and uphold yourself to those morals that they maybe they're not conscious of it, but wish that they did.
They're very like they feel guilty and they project it in a negative way for sure.
Misery loves company.
They're really trying to make me like 100%.
Yeah, I think that women generally have to be very careful with their friends as well.
And you see this even with married women as well.
Oftentimes the reason why they will divorce is because they'll have a friendship group who will be telling her, yeah, girl, you're not happy.
You're not happy.
You just need to dump him and you'll be so much happier single and it's just not the case, unfortunately.
And sometimes those are the ones that go to their husbands after, which is crazy.
Yeah, yeah.
It's very interesting, this Hate men culture when it comes to women.
Even people that don't proclaim themselves as feminists, and maybe they'll say some sort of statement like, like, I just hate men.
And then they'll be like, I don't really hate men.
It's like, well, you, okay, are you a walking contradiction, first of all?
But second of all, obviously you're saying that for some sort of reason.
And I just find it very interesting that a lot of people aren't able to separate like that person's sex from their character.
Yeah.
I'm like, it has, there are horrible women out there.
There's horrible men.
Of course.
Exactly.
And seek out good relationships, whether that be romantic or a friendship.
I just, yeah, it's very interesting.
So there's women that say they hate men that also need them for validation.
Absolutely.
And they seek the most validation from men.
Absolutely.
How do you guys select for friends?
I'm interested.
What are the key criterias?
God.
Yeah, you're not.
You're only as good as the company you keep.
You know, like you said, I'd prefer people that don't go out a lot.
That's just not, it doesn't fit with my lifestyle anymore.
I enjoy being friends with a lot of people that are in relationships as well or married.
And of course, Christians believe in God, go to church, those kind of things.
And also females who kind of have the same goal in their future marriage as me, because I want to be submissive and I want to be like, I want to let my husband lead.
If she starts saying that's ridiculous or that's stupid or that's sounds like you've got a few of these friends to fend off at the moment.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm a big believer and you really are a collective of the five people that you hang out with most.
And I think there's a time and a place for if you have a good standard with your morals and whatnot.
And I think that some people are very called to help people and kind of help shape other people's beliefs and behaviors.
But at the same time, there has to be some sort of boundary or standard that you set for yourself and how you interact with these people.
And I have a lot of people like that in my life.
But I've come to terms in the type of people that they are and the type of friendships or relationships I can have with them.
And I keep a distance when it's appropriate.
And yeah.
It's the smartest thing to do, too, for our own mental health.
Absolutely.
Female friends can be recruited, unfortunately.
Yes, they can.
I think you will find more peace in your life too if you're not surrounded by those friends that are promoting things that you wouldn't necessarily agree with or desire.
It just doesn't bring peace at all because if I want to talk about it, there's just going to be like an argument or tension.
And you know, females, they hold grudges, so it's going to be very hard to cut people off, but sometimes that's what's necessary.
Absolutely.
By the way, quick announcements, guys.
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Let's see here.
I'm just, let me just actually double check and make sure I save those settings.
I think it should be set now.
So if any of you want to get those in, we've lowered that.
I guess also the base will just be $69 also to read, but it's just going to be TTS.
So I guess read and TTS will be $69.
I'll get that updated a little here.
Did you have more on that?
Speaking of that?
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Women are evil.
They're like scorpions in a jar.
They will all fight the one trying to get out of the jar.
Women do not have true friends, and why a woman's only real relationship should be with her husband.
Yeah.
I agree.
I always say my best friend's my boyfriend.
Yeah.
I don't think women are evil, but.
I don't think we're inherently evil.
Yeah.
But it does seem to be the case.
Like, women will, like, if they are promiscuous, they'll like push their female friends to be promiscuous because they like want that.
They want to feel less guilty of what they're doing.
They don't want to be the only one.
They want their poor decisions to be reaffirmed by knowing that these other women are also engaging in the same behavior as a means to justify their behavior.
It's literally mental to me.
Like, I feel like that's a brainwash.
Yeah.
Brainwashing.
For shizzle.
I think that's why it's so much easier as a married woman to have other friends that are married.
Yeah.
Your goals are aligning.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Definitely.
I can't wait to be a wife.
That's like my both girl.
You and me go.
I can't wait to be a wife also.
Waiting.
Wait, what?
You can ask me anything.
If you have more questions, I don't mind.
Oh, yeah.
Hold on one sec.
I'm just getting this.
Does anybody here give me like a couple minutes to figure out my stuff on the computer?
I'm going to open it up if anybody has a question.
Do you girls have any questions for the fellas?
Good one about how do you select someone that you would choose to be your wife?
Yes, how long will you wait to propose?
Oh, that's a great question.
That's a great question.
Because I want to.
I was going to say, tune in, my boyfriend.
Select, first of all, the selection criteria.
For me, I've got my personal things, and the first one's obviously you have to be a Christian.
It's non-negotiable.
And then I think that the values tend to stem from that.
If you guys are plugged into a good church and if you have a good community, then that's going to be something that's extremely important.
Obviously, she's not going to embarrass me in public.
I don't want someone obnoxious.
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Good stream tonight, but we need your friends to come in so Terry's some conflict again.
We need your friends to come in so there's some conflict again?
Wait, whose friends?
Oh, yeah.
Can they be bought?
Oh, can we probably be bought?
Not like for sexual energy.
I know.
Like, not carnal knowledge, but just, like, for the podcast.
How much longer?
I can maybe.
I can.
We got maybe like another hour, hour and a half of the pod cast.
I'll access pod.
I'll just ask you.
Can somebody get her phone?
Wait, chat.
What do you think?
$100?
Is that fair for like an hour to come on for an hour?
For one of them?
We could do both.
Fuck it.
Yeah, $100 each.
Fuck it.
New blood.
for shizzle uh did you guys yeah so um yeah good values Don't embarrass me in public.
Don't be too much, don't be obnoxious.
That's obviously very important.
Kind, sweet, nurturing, feminine.
If you've got a past with a lot of guys, then that is an absolute no-no, obviously.
And yeah, there's also a lot of little things that you look for as well.
Like, one of the things that I find very important is if they're in good shape and they're in their 20s, do they actively exercise and do they enjoy exercise?
Do they cook and do they like cooking nice, healthy food?
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Thank you for being authentic and representing yourself well.
Black women are in these spaces too.
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Okay.
She's a great girl.
She's doing great.
She heard it.
She said, aww.
Aw, thank you.
There it is.
Yeah, so those things, if she enjoys cooking and she cooks healthy meals and that sort of thing, that's really important because it shows that she's actively doing that and that one day she's not just going to, you know, like blow out.
That's pretty important.
If she's putting those steps in place very early, gosh, if she's always going for this.
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Look, anyone can turn their life to Christ from being a 304, but that doesn't mean men have to accept your past.
Yeah, absolutely.
Anybody can turn it around, but it takes accountability first, of course.
I wouldn't necessarily even say that.
I gotta turn the chat off for like 30 seconds.
Just 30 seconds, boys.
Yes, but that also kind of ties into what I said earlier.
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Jake, how'd it go with Alexa?
Also, the cop wife is annoying as sheets and needs to shut the fuck up.
Okay.
Do you guys want to respond?
I feel like I need to address it.
There was a girl that was sitting next to me on Sunday on the podcast, and everyone thinks that she was into me, but nothing happened.
We finished the podcast up and haven't got any news for you, unfortunately.
I wish I had some goss.
That's it, boys.
That is it.
That's all there is.
Guys, I'm going to open up the chat in just a sec.
Something's buggy over here.
Did you have more?
You know, I think that ties into what I said earlier.
I think, especially, I mean, as a Christian and somebody that strives to be Christ-like, I feel like it is a bit of a calling for people like myself to help.
And the end goal is to try and help turn people towards the way of Jesus, you know?
And it is important, obviously, to be around people that you're able to influence in a positive manner, but there has to be a line that you draw for yourself so you don't become influenced by those people, you know?
And also, you can't really compare Jesus to normal people because Jesus is God, and Jesus came to the earth for a specific mission.
Yeah, of course.
But we have to walk the way he walks, try our best because we're always going to fail, of course.
Yeah, but it's not a fair comparison to say, well, he went and dined with the sins, so you guys should be.
And I mean, there is a fair case to say that we should be trying to help people as much as we can.
But yeah, it's not a great comparison to Jesus.
I don't know.
I gotta disagree.
I think it's pretty good comparison if we go for it.
I mean, if you sit there and you hang out with people that seem bad or worse off than you or have poor morals or whatever, you can be a positive influence.
You can bring them like you're saying closer to Christ.
You wouldn't necessarily want to have them in your direct circle, though, and have them constantly rubbing off on you.
I think it's.
Well, that's if you really don't have the willpower to control yourself and you allow them to rub off on you.
No, I don't have to.
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No, he's a brave and a decent man.
He's a pioneer.
Thank you, Gridwan.
So I think you're confusing what we're trying to say a little bit.
It's not necessarily, oh, I'm going to hang out with these people.
It's more like you try and be, for lack of better terms, a voice of reason a bit in people's life.
And I mean, if I meet somebody and I may not be friends with them necessarily, but if I have a conversation with them and I have an opportunity to maybe bring them to church with me one week, that's like some sort of example, you know, and just even having like very casual conversations with people in passing.
That's sort of what I was getting at at least.
Not necessarily keeping these people in a close-knit friend circle.
You know, I don't think you going out and partying with these people is a good idea, you know?
That's why I said like the self-control and the willpower.
You don't gotta be like them.
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Yeah, good panel to know.
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Yo, Vash, the Stampede, thank you for the TTS, man.
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It was a good panel.
Some solid, solid Sheilas.
Oh, man.
How do you know who told you that one?
Oh, my God.
Oh, just in time, we have the legendary Stay Safe.
He's a brave and a decent man.
He's a pioneer.
Stay safe.
He's a brave and a decent man.
He's a pioneer.
I hope you had a great stream over there.
Were you sunk in Temple?
Were you rating?
If you guys don't know, Stay Safe is a World of Warcraft streamer.
And since he did raid us, I'm going to ask a World of Warcraft dating-related question.
So going around the table for all the ladies.
Brian's lost some donated $69.
I'll get to it.
Saw this making some rounds on social media.
Question to the ladies: Would you rather be stuck in the forest alone with a man or a bear?
Logic is bear can just kill you, but man can kill you and our word.
By the way, I did a shout out on Twitch for Stay Safe.
Thank you, Matt, for the raid.
I'll get to the World of Warcraft question in just a sec.
Wait, so would you rather be stuck in the forest alone with a man or a bear?
Wait, Modest Teakima donated $69.
All I'm saying is that it is predictable that OG girl number two started crying and left the show after I pointed, she wasn't top 1% of.
Was that really her BF in the background and not the whatever bodyguard?
Don't bring him into it.
Number two said he left the show after a point.
She wasn't top 1% OF.
Actually, you know what?
It's totally Madis Akama's fault.
You are.
He's a brave and a decent man.
He's a pioneer.
But, yeah, man, I think you're maybe not to blame.
Like, maybe you take the credit.
You're taking the credit for the walk-off.
Do you think that was it?
He said she wasn't in the top 1% on OF, and I think that just like she couldn't handle the blow to the ego, so she just had to get out.
I think she didn't want to delete her socials.
Wait, just to be fair to Brian's lost son here, so I think we can answer the question.
You guys can answer the question, though.
So would you rather be stuck in the forest alone with a man or a bear?
Bear.
Man.
Bear.
Man.
Yeah, man.
Wait, so you said both of them.
Did you guys say they didn't say that?
It says they can.
I think the bear is probably more likely to actually do it.
Whereas what if the man's friendly?
What if he's present?
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Any thoughts on female teachers being arrested in record numbers for essay on boy students?
We'll get to the World of Warcraft thing in just a sec here, but any thoughts on, I mean, yeah, I guess there is a disproportionate amount of women who are teachers who are engaging in carnal knowledge with their students.
What's the question?
Like, yeah, they should be arrested.
just the thoughts i'm sure yeah like yeah Do you think they should be the fuck?
Rapists.
Do you guys see this shit?
Wait, chat.
Do you see this fucking shit?
Look at this shit.
Do you guys see the shit?
Is that the thing we cut?
Do you see this fucking shit, boys?
The fuck is this?
It grew back.
Oh, my God.
Damn.
I need a haircut.
It's starting to get too long.
cut it off wait oh this is okay barber question for the chat And stay safe, viewers.
And the panel.
Boys, isn't the barber supposed to like clean his tools after each and every haircut?
You'd hope so.
Makes sense.
Like, they're supposed to spray their trimmers.
Even if they drop it on the floor.
I kind of like, maybe I'm not paying attention, but I think like, do you guys like pay attention to that?
I'm pretty sure like if you go to your barber like and he's finishing up a haircut, I don't think I've ever seen him like any barber I've been to, not just one particular.
I've never seen them sanitize tools between cuts.
They're like, maybe they'll broom a bit and then they're just like put the next person in the seat.
Do you guys know what like is that like?
Have you ever seen?
I've never seen a barber spray down their clippers after a cut, have you?
I've never seen it?
They could also have multiple sets of like clippers that some are clean, some are used.
So now I'm like been hesitating.
No, what the fuck, what the fuck man?
No, I've been like has I've been delaying on getting a haircut because I'm like I'm a germaphobe and I'm like how about you have a role?
Just call the barber, like hey, do you, wouldn't that be rude?
Like no to what?
You don't, you don't clean your shit.
No, just say you have a sickness and that you like really can't deal with any germs.
So if they're seeing why, I don't know what's it too, just call them up and say you want high value clippers.
what if I can I bring in my own clippers Yo.
Are there any barbers in the chat?
Wait, pull up.
Pull that shit up.
Yeah, go to a good barber.
No, I think, even like legit, like normal barbers, they don't be cleaning their shit.
I think they they're slacking, I think they start slacking.
How about you just call a barber and ask, if they do, is it?
Would it be?
Sanitize your tools?
Chat chat um, what uh?
Are there any barbers in the chat?
Be honest, do you clean your shit after every single cut?
Be honest, I've never seen them do that shit.
Maybe they'll put the comb in barbicide.
Yeah, they'll put the comb and scissors in barbicide, but they're not cleaning the clippers.
They're not spraying down the clippers.
I think I have seen them like put the clippers in barbicide as well.
No no no, get like a.
I'm not like going to the cheapo barber, I'm getting like a decent.
I'm going with a good barber, not going to like the backwoods fucking behind the dumpster barber.
How about you just call anonymously and just say hey, this is you guys, said?
Here's my question, though, would it be disrespectful to be like because like oh, can I bring in my own clippers, I'll buy my own pair of clippers.
They're gonna be like I wouldn't they feel like that's disrespectful.
And Brian, also, why do you care?
It's not actually disrespectful, and if they think it is, it's kind of a them problem.
That's true.
That's a fair point.
Oh no, they got scissors around me, bro.
I don't want to get stabbed.
Oh my gosh, Brian.
I'm just saying.
That's why I haven't gotten the haircut.
It's a bit dramatic.
Okay, wait, wait, wait.
Guys, World of Warcraft, really quick.
We lost all the stay safe fucking peeps.
Wait, lower that shit a little bit.
All right, so yo, stay safe.
Thank you for the raid, brother.
Those of you who are even still here, you're probably not.
But question for the ladies: Would you date a guy who plays World of Warcraft for 10 hours a day, but he's not like he's not a casual.
Like, he's a top one percenter in World of Warcraft.
Like, he pumps in all the raids.
Molten Core, Blackwing Lair, AQ-40, Max Ramis.
He's in the hardcore raiding guild.
He's got alts.
I think that would drive me crazy.
I'd get bored.
Is this who he makes?
So would you date him, though?
But like, he's really good at the game.
Like, he's super sweaty with the game.
Like, and he ranked.
I don't, I don't think he's a fan of the game.
He's super sweaty.
No, not like literally sweaty, but it's a gamer.
No, it's like for the passion.
I don't know.
I think that's the audience.
Brian, your security guard looks like he could stare the racism out of a KKK member.
I hope he's a Trump supporter.
We need more men like him.
And everyone was speechless.
It is sad that no one can really just come out.
He actually is a KKK member.
Wait, was that?
That's funny, right?
No, is that not funny?
Is it not funny?
I've donated six months.
I'm talking about my bad.
Image it who played classic wow beta 6.
Tropical iron skilled pulling 10 to 18 hour days and in Grand Marshall PvP teams.
Oh, huh.
A huge thing for raid leaders.
Ladies, get yourself RL slash mount P.S. Gustavo to 10.
Oh.
Oh.
That me.
Yeah, I mean, the great thing if, like, you're dating a guy who's a main tank, like, he's just going to like funnel all the loot to him.
You know what I mean?
Like, he's just funnel the funnel the funnel the loot?
Funnel the loot.
Like, he's.
Okay, think about it.
You're going into Molten Core.
He's going to take weapons.
Maybe if he's like really serious about tanking, he's going to go daggers, right?
He's going to take Perdition's Blade.
He's going to take Corehound Tooth.
You know, he's going to take, let's see, I don't think he takes QSR, like quick strike ring, but I do think he's going to take, what's the ring that drops from Ragnaros?
Fuck, what's it called?
Ah, shit.
He's going to take Onslaught Girdle.
Yeah.
For sure.
He's definitely taking Onslaught Girdle.
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Question for the ladies.
With women being more vocal than ever and protesting for certain rights.
Why are there little to no females in the streets marching for two-way rights?
Second Amendment rights.
I would be happy to hit the streets and march for Second Amendment rights.
More vocal than ever in process.
Why are there little and no females in the streets?
I mean, but what is like the.
I'm in favor of Second Amendment rights.
I'm just confused.
Like, what would the David Tuzechiak donated $69?
Shout out to all the women and men on the panel to engage in debate.
What are your signs and do you believe in astrology?
I may have fish, but don't believe.
Respect also to bodyguard.
Respect to all.
Did they say they're a fish?
Yeah.
I'm assuming the zodiacs are.
Respect to the bodyguard.
This sign.
Yo, chat.
I want to ask the chat.
Nick, could you pull up the chat?
Actually, before you pull up the chat, guys, if you're new on Twitch from Stay Safe, drop us a follow.
Drop us a little follow on Twitch.
Stay safe against.
Again, thank you for the raid over there on Twitch.
Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one.
Guys, we almost have 2,000 followers.
Guys, Madison over there, Madison, the girl in the helmet, she's going to start very soon.
She's going to start streaming twitch.tv/slash whatever on off days.
So make sure you hit that follow button, guys, so you can catch her fucking pony noobs in World of Warcraft.
Stay safe is going to power level her through like, are you Madison?
You playing Horde or Lions?
Horde.
Yeah, of course.
So, you know, Wailing Caverns, the one in Orgumar, I forgot the name.
He's going to power level her, get her, like, up to 50 real quick.
She's going to be in Sunken Temple within like a week or two, boys.
She's going to be like pumping, like parsing.
Right.
Like, you're a fucking parser.
Like, Madison, like, when she puts her mind to it, she, like, goes fucking hardcore.
So she's going to be, like, parsing the shit out of sucking sunk.
Sunken.
It's called Sunken Temple.
It's the current raid in World of Warcraft.
That sounded so bad.
It's called Sunken Temple.
Sorry, I have a lisp or some shit.
I don't know.
I can't speak.
Oh, a picture of Zaryu.
He's got a wife.
Is that disrespectful?
I don't know.
Nah, nah, we shouldn't do it.
We could do Stay Safe, though.
Nah.
Let's do as.
Wait, Asmund Gold.
We're going to do that.
Asmund Gold really quick.
Nick, could you pull up Asmund Gold?
We're going to see if the girls would date Asmund Gold.
I don't know Asmund Gold.
But did anyone have any further thoughts on the Second Amendment thing?
Like, wait, really quick for Gustavo Sexy Toes.
Are gun rights inferior?
Like, would you date a guy who legally owned a firearm?
Yeah, I have a firearm.
Preferably.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, absolutely.
Husband's a cops at the end.
Hopefully, yeah.
Wait, does he get to take his, is it called a service weapon gun?
Service gun?
He's like, takes that with him everywhere, right?
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
Ladies, would you date this man?
He's a good friend of mine.
Scroll down a little bit.
So they don't see the clout.
Okay.
This is my good friend Zach.
He's a fucking legend.
Like, super Giga Chad.
He mostly plays Warrior.
He's like kind of hesitant with Classic right now, but like I think he's doing it a little bit, you know?
So understandable.
He also has an axe.
Like, I don't know if you saw that shit, but so going around the table, like, would you date him yes or no?
Uh, no, no.
Like, if you're single, you know?
Maybe.
Maybe.
No, I think video games are a red flag.
Priya?
No, sorry.
You wouldn't date him?
No.
I can get you.
I'm sure he's a lovely person.
Sure.
Let me at least do an intro, okay?
Yeah, I'm good.
Thank you.
Sure, okay.
I'm sure he's a lovely person, but no, not for me.
Whoa, Gustavo, this lady's sugar mama.
What the heck?
Good times, good times.
Was there another one that came through?
I forgot.
Hold on.
And then pull back up the thing.
Has it been hidden?
We didn't even answer the World of Warcraft.
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't ask it.
What was it?
Keep this up as much as you can.
Oh, would you date a guy that played for like 10 hours a day, blah, blah, blah.
It's a shizzle.
What?
So would you?
No.
Date a guy who played World of Warcraft for 10 hours a day, but he was like main tank and he was just funneling all the loot to himself.
Did you answer already?
Yeah, I answered.
By the way, like.
He's a good board and go crazy.
And he's like a good main tank.
So like, I don't think you realize how valuable a main tank is.
If it's his occupation, yes.
If it's a side hobby, no.
Passion project.
Band of Acuria, that's the ring from Ragnaros.
Like, obviously, he's hard-reserving that.
Yeah.
Dean's know what he's talking about?
Band of Acuria.
The streamers would be loving it.
The Twitch crowd would love it.
Yeah.
Didn't tell him a question.
Was Ziz, because you've got Ziz there, right?
Yeah.
I'll post.
Intel Mike, in some secret.
Because you've got a photo of a good family friend.
Oh, yeah.
We should put that up.
Yeah, yeah.
So his brother is also a very close friend of mine.
Oh, Chessbro.
Chesbrow.
Yeah, he was on our podcast the other week.
Oh, nice.
Yeah, yeah, but it's funny because, you know, those boys were gamers as well.
Yeah, yeah.
So we all used to train at the same gym and they'd go home.
Yeah, it's legit.
They'd go and play.
But you know, you knew.
Did you meet Ziz?
Not like as a friend, but more as like, you know, Jimbro culture where it's just you wink and you nod and you're like, can I get a spot sort of thing?
But it was like wild days, man.
I was there on the Misk.
On the what?
On the Misk?
What's the Misk?
You don't know the Misk?
No, what's the Misk?
You don't know the Misk?
Educator?
I'm here.
I'm here to be aware me.
You're not aware?
I'm not aware.
Oh, the Misk is like where Ziz kind of started off getting some of his fame.
Message boards or something?
It was the bodybuilding.com message board.
It was called the Misk.
It was basically like where people who were into bodybuilding or whatever would just like fucking just post about.
Like shit posting.
Shit posting.
Who shit posted, bro?
He used to say that.
So that's where he got.
That's where actually Ziz.
And I was on there a little bit.
Oh, see you back on the message?
I was there when Ziz was posting.
Did you see some of the DMs?
He'd be like, he'd be like, sorry, I could not lower myself to someone who would damn me in such a fashion, for I am so aesthetic that it would lower my status if I were to respond to such a message.
Yeah.
You seen those ones?
Yeah.
I'll link you up.
You'd love having his brother on you, bro.
His name is Sage Shivershian.
Shout out to Sage Shaversian.
Really good friend.
Actually, I think I reached out to him like a year ago.
Bro, you'd love to have a video.
He'd be such a good one.
You guys would get along so well.
To be fair, you're probably talking about fucking video games the whole time.
World of Warcraft, yeah.
Just ignore the girls the entire show.
Yeah, so I'd be super down to have him on.
So if he's ever in Cali, let's run it.
I'll hook it up.
Let's do it.
He's with Bradley Martin the other day.
Oh, hell yeah.
Nice, nice, nice.
No, I'm going to make a video.
Rest in peace, rest in peace.
Yeah, man.
R.I.P.s.
Can we get RIPs in the chat for Ziz?
Ziz?
R.I.P. to the Legacy.
R.I.P.'s in the chat for Zizz.
Ziz Generation.
You guys, Myron?
Generation of Chads.
You guys, Myron?
Oh, yeah, no, they're Myron.
Everyone here's Myers.
Bro, thank you for saying Myron.
Can we give him like a double MySup?
Fuck, Myron.
Jake, I don't even care about the paper, Myron.
I'm Myron for myself.
Fuck, bro.
Got to disregard everyone and just acquire muscles, really.
That's the key to life.
Beast.
The girls have no idea what we're talking about.
Because they're Myron, that's why.
Are you guys Myron?
Myron?
Are you Myron has aesthetics?
Oh, admiring.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I thought you were saying Myron.
Yeah, I'd like his mind.
He's got to acquire so people can be admiring this.
Are you Myron has aesthetics?
It's fine if you're not.
I can like Are you Myron ourselves?
Not Myron.
Okay.
God, this is the best channel ever.
I love this.
I could do this all day.
Sweet.
That's the best.
Let me get through some of my other notes here.
Got a little bit.
We have Karina.
Let's see.
You said you'd like to talk about why the majority of females, these are your words, not mine.
Why the majority of females are so fake liars and just out to ruin a man's life, basically?
Your words, not mine.
Honestly.
And you said you have lots of life examples.
Yes, so like, for example, I had this one girl in college.
Well, okay, so honestly, starting in middle school, I've heard females say, oh, I'm just going to have, I'm just going to make this guy like me, and then when he likes me, I'm just going to dump him.
And then I've had females say, like, oh, I'm just going to marry a rich man so that I don't have to work and I just do whatever I want.
And then I've had another female say, oh, I'm just going to save all my money and then I'm just going to spend all of his.
Could I be so bold as to tell you an even more terrible story that will give you shivers to your bones?
So one of my closest, closest mates, we call friends mates in Australia.
He got with this girl a couple of years ago.
She baby-trapped him.
Do you guys know what that is?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So he's basically in this, and I didn't even know this was a real thing.
And I happened to bring this up as a topic, but I didn't know domestic violence towards men was a real thing.
But she would escalate.
So she'd test, I get away with spitting, so I'd start yelling.
And I get away with yelling, so I start hitting.
I get away with hitting, so I start smashing his property.
And it got so bad that what I just mentioned, that's not even the worst thing.
One day, she's because he's like, I can't take the abuse anymore.
He's like, I'm going to leave.
And she goes, if you fucking leave, I'm going to call the police and say that you beat me up.
And then he goes, he stayed for a bit.
He stayed and then he left.
And then she called the police.
The police came to this guy's house and she's like, I just wanted to scare him.
And they're like, well, someone's got to go to jail.
And she had this man taken to jail.
Bender the Offender denated 69 or 16.
Went to jail.
I've recently been thinking about religion and if it is valuable.
My mother was a Presbyterian.
My uncle is Catholic.
I'm not sure what the distinctions are, but my uncle has been married for 50 years.
Recently, yeah.
You should go orthodox, bro.
Bender the Offender.
Go check out Andrew Wilson.
He'll convert you.
Good to see you in the chat, Bender the Offender, bro.
Go to mass with your uncle.
Explore it.
It's a good idea.
But yeah, that's actually, I mean, sorry to darken your souls with that story.
It's disgusting, but I think it highlights the thing that a lot of people aren't aware that exists because a lot of people don't think that domestic abuse can happen to men.
It's never happened to me, so I've been naive to it.
But like the level to which this guy went through, and he stayed strong the whole time, but I'm like, what were you thinking about when you were sitting in prison and this monster's just sitting home laughing at you?
And then he goes home.
He goes home to his own house and he's got a bed on the floor.
She goes sleep on the floor.
Now, I think females these days have too much power and they weaponize their wooha and they weaponize their kids and they use it against men all the time.
I think because evil can come in any sex, race, religion, right?
But I think this highlights a specifically not talked about type of evil that just so happens to be a woman.
You know what I mean?
But it's shocking.
It's shocking.
Like so many females, they literally will say, oh, if you leave me, then you won't ever see your kid.
She said that to him as well, and she's doing it right now.
And not only that, she was financially abusing him because he went between jobs.
She goes, I'm not going to pay the rent, so you default on your mortgage.
And he's like, oh, can you please not do that?
And she goes, if you leave me, not only am I going to put you in jail, but then I'm going to take your kid.
And she was so evil, she goes, you can't even afford a lawyer.
No, he needs to start recording her.
It's funny you mention that.
Yeah, I get a little bit of it.
That's smart.
I told him to do that, and now he started recording.
Okay, good.
But I didn't realize how dangerous.
Like, you know, Gone Girl, that movie, if anyone's seen that?
Oh, man, this girl makes that girl look sane.
Yeah, so like, that's why, like, my whole, like, from middle school, I've heard feelings.
Thank you for sharing that.
Oh, thank you for listening.
I just feel bad for like darkening your souls.
All these beautiful people in here, and I pour like acid on your brains with this disgusting story.
So I get very passionate about this topic, as you can see.
You know what?
I mean, to add to that, when it comes to relationships, I mean, there's this idea in like society that men are like these all-powerful creatures, but like women have, I would argue, when it comes to like the relationship dynamic, can have an insane amount of leverage over man and wield and wield a lot of power over men, especially if you introduce marriage and children.
I honestly think like, you know, you could say if they're they're not married and there's no children, it's maybe equal, but but I mean, once children get involved, once you're married, then like the power dynamic absolutely switches.
I think like for guys like you and me, for example, and I just want to put this in perspective, I think we're fortunate because we're surrounded by hundreds of people, right?
Hundreds of talents.
So we get to see the best and the worst of humanity at scale through hundreds of people, right?
So when you're looking for a partner and when I'm looking for a partner, we know based off data, statistics, we've seen the worst and how bad it can get.
And we can look for those flags.
But unfortunately, and I think this is credit to your podcast, like this gives the audience insight into a lot of the bullshit that we see in real life.
Like how many times have you had a talent manager try fuck you over or a talent who tries flake on a podcast or someone who doesn't want to pay the money that they're supposed to pay or someone who says, oh, I had so much fun and then shit talks you on the internet.
Like this is real.
And we see it hundreds of times.
And I think the problem is, and this is how this gentleman got trapped in this abusive relationship.
He said to me, he goes, Liam, I didn't even know that female domestic abuse was a thing.
He goes, my whole life, I've had good parents.
I've kept to myself.
I work my job.
He hasn't seen the evils that we've seen through just human exposure.
You know what I mean?
And so because of his naivety, this poor guy is sitting in a jail cell.
And he's getting his kid taken away.
He's getting abused every day.
And by the way, this is five years he's gone on with this.
I'd rather be in jail.
Yeah.
Hang out with your buddies.
You know what I mean?
Play basketball.
This is stabbing here and there.
And also, you get a bed in jail.
He doesn't even have a bed.
You know what I mean?
I think it got worse.
I think it got worse after the Me Too movement and everything.
I mean, women can, yeah, harmony.
And so what's that again?
And then five years ago?
And it also, not only is it women hold children against men, but it's hard enough for men just to fight for their own rights for their own kids.
We preemptively, like one of there was a family member who notified the police because she already did one false accusation.
They said, listen, we just want to put on record.
We think she's going to do it again.
We don't know what it's going to be.
And then this is how scary it got.
They even said, like, if anything happens and he's murdered, they're like, we want you to know that it was her.
Because the domestic violence was that bad that they had to put it on record.
So there's a police officer in Australia in this suburb with a note of record that says, if this man either gets arrested or if he's murdered, it was this woman.
Her name's Vanessa, by the way.
What's her last name?
I mean, you know what's interesting though?
Fuck it.
That's the benefit of not giving a fuck.
You know what I mean?
She can't sue me.
Scott donated $70.
Brian, appreciate everything you do and from Carly out of all states.
Thank you, Scott.
To the guys, do you always share your pro-masculine views even at family functions or workplace?
Most men are scared to.
I take my shirt off and flex in front of my family on purpose.
So then Myron.
Well, this is, I mean, this is my workplace, so yeah.
I'm not sharing it here, but I avoid any sort of political conversations generally when it comes to family and friends.
But if somebody wants to go at it, if somebody wants to prod me, because when they find out what I do, that I'm a content creator and that I talk about culture and politics, people go at you and go at you.
And my strategy is that you hit as hard as you get hit.
So if somebody wants to come at me, then by all means, we can do it.
Did you guys see that?
All right, you go ahead.
Oh, I was just going to say, but I think all of us, like, I mean, entrepreneur, we're all entrepreneurs.
We all have our own business going.
So we have a bit more leeway to be able to talk about these things.
We have a bit more insulation.
But I mean, for your normal guy who's like working in an office job, absolutely never talk about this shit for your own sake.
Also in school, don't talk about it.
Don't, if you've got a liberal professor, just grit your teeth and just get through the class.
It's not going to be worth it to get into some back and forth with them.
Don't argue with your professors over feminism or, you know, any of the bullshit that they're potentially propaganda that they're peddling.
It's not worth it.
Get your degree, get out of college.
If you want to get into the world and talk about it, even then, if you end up in a corporate job, never bring the shit up in the corporate world.
It's just going to bite you in the ass.
So if you're in like a, maybe in a construction job or something, maybe there you can talk about it with your colleagues, but I don't think you should be talking like any sort of men's rights or pro-masculine stuff or anti-feminist shit just for the sake of your livelihood to protect yourself from getting fired or from people in the corporate world trying to angle you out and get you fired or make up some bullshit thing like toxic, you know, I don't even know.
But you wanted to come in on something?
Yeah, I know.
I was just saying like from the other conversation we had, like, that's why I have so much empathy for men.
Like, did you guys see that one wedding video where like the bride refused to say, like, say a part of her vows where she was like, he was like, oh, you need to obey.
And she's like, obey.
You didn't see that?
No.
No, it was crazy.
Like, she refused to finish her.
She would not say obey.
She wouldn't say, obey your husband.
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You wanted to come in on something?
No.
I forgot what I was going to say.
Oh, okay.
Sorry, the TTOs.
Copy blocked.
We were talking about the women that refused to obey.
Oh, yeah.
She refused to say that.
I think that's just crazy.
Like they, some females, they really don't understand the meaning of obey in a marriage.
It's not, um, you're not.
It makes sense to me.
The terms have been so skewed.
Yeah.
So skewed in terms of like obeying your husband and submission to your husband.
Everyone thinks that it has to be their dark or sexual.
Florida Dave donated $69.
Have the girls rate if they prefer certain trades, men.
Example, plumber equals works with poo.
Vomiting face.
Electrician equals sparky doesn't sweep floors.
Is CTech equals always working to keep you cool?
Cool face.
Cool face.
That's what I was thinking.
So would you guys say that you want me to ask if they would date a blue-collar worker?
Yeah.
I'm sorry to a poor.
Question?
I don't know.
I didn't understand that too.
He said something about rating, too.
I don't know.
Okay, we'll just go around the table.
I'm going to have to take a bit of leeway with your question here.
Would you date a blue-collar worker?
Yeah.
Yes.
Of course.
Yeah.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Okay.
Rock and roll.
Did you pull that one up from just get, yeah.
Where were we?
Oh, I actually, I had a question going around the table.
This is totally non-sequitur.
Who is the primary victim of war?
Men or women?
I've got a good answer for this one.
Wait, you can scoot your mic a little this way.
I'd say nobody wins it or everybody's a victim.
Well, okay, but hold on.
Let me restate it.
So who is the primary victim of war?
Men or women?
You literally said it is the same.
Because you didn't answer the question.
I thought, who's the victim of war, right?
The primary victim of war.
Primary victim of war.
Which group suffers more?
Everybody.
I don't think any more less than another.
Okay, let me give you a specific war then.
What about the Ukraine war?
That's currently the current conflict.
Who's the primary victim of the Ukraine war?
Men or women?
Seems like it's everybody.
Like, it's the soldiers dying.
There's men dying.
There's women dying.
There's children dying.
Can I give you a new answer?
Which sex is it consistent?
I know what you're getting at.
Men are more statistically likely to get slaughtered on the front line.
But a lot of those men leave behind women.
So it's kind of like, do you know what I mean?
I think it's probably worse too.
It's probably worse.
Oh, wasn't it?
Though that's what I feel like it is statistically, though, isn't it?
Aren't they on the front line?
Rito, please donate it $69.
Karina is a based queen with great hair.
Also, rare to see the entire panel be on the same page with most of the topics.
I've never seen a more men-supportive panel.
Yes.
Brian, ask the Boeing question.
I don't think we have the video pulled up, but we can definitely do that.
Nick, you might have to go into the, I don't know where it is.
We lost the bow video.
Oh, wait.
It's just a Dropbox folder.
top of the folder it's called god i have time can i say something about the ukraine It's called Asian Housewife.
Yeah, so it's called Asian Housewife.
Go ahead.
In terms of that topic, Stochastic Decay donated $69.
Hey, Brain.
Sorry, I'm late.
Long day.
It was hard to feel sympathy for the pothead after she was so flippant about home wrecking.
Anyway, panel, well, please rate your intelligence on a scale of zero to 200.
Okay, so we'll do this, then we'll go to the bow video.
Then Jake has a question or a statement.
Rate your intelligence on scale of 0 to 200, starting with you?
Booksmart, maybe 100.
Oh my god, Real Trump donated $69.
For the crocodile Dundees, I could only imagine dating in Australia.
Not only do you have to deal with modern females, but every living creature tries to kill you, including kangaroos.
Yeah, so dating in Australia is the worst dating market I've ever seen in my life.
Really?
There's a few reasons for this, and you might have a similar opinion, but a lot of Australian guys are Chads.
We have a massive blue-collar industry in Australia.
So guys who work as plumbers, electricians, carpenters in the mine, they all earn really good money.
Normally they stay in good shape.
And then, so I think the level of man is very high in Australia.
And you very often see guys who are of a very high value dating girls who are just not up to the standard, yet the girls still have this massive expectation.
If I was a single female and I was attractive and had nice values, I would go to Australia because you will find a really, really top quality guy.
And the competition is not very good over there.
Passport ladies.
Passport ladies, yeah, 100%.
Yeah.
The sisters.
Now, you're not wrong.
Australian guys do look after themselves and there is a higher level of statistically discretionary income in Australia.
So yeah, that's true.
I think part of it's maybe the accent too.
Like the girls like the accent or the Australian girls don't really know any different.
Oh, as in dating foreign girls.
Yeah, I guess that's true.
Yeah.
I actually try and like date crocodiles and kangaroos.
Well, I think like kind of the people think it's weird, but I don't.
And also just in terms of the dangerous anonymous donated $69.
My wife had a bay removed from our wedding vows.
She filed for divorce a couple of months ago after 15 years of marriage.
I'm a living the simp dream and won the feminist lottery.
Keep it trill.
That is 15 years?
Oh, wow.
Just about Australia though, you guys are often very quick to say that Australia is so dangerous.
You guys have crocodiles and you have snakes and spiders.
Stay away from the places where the crocodiles are and you won't get eaten.
Snakes, you'd have to step on one.
Very unlikely.
Not many people die from it anyway.
Same with spiders.
The only one we really have to worry about is drop bears.
Yeah, drop bears are the worst.
Worst.
Do you want to tell them about them?
I thought they were epic dick.
You'd be walking down the street.
Boom.
Yeah.
They'll get you straight away.
That's the only one you really have to worry about.
Worst.
How many dust did we have from drop bears last year?
Oh, man, thousands.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you guys have married?
Tell them about the drop bears.
They come out of the middle.
You guys have mountain lions and you guys have like bears.
Oh, drop bears are just bears that hang out in the tree and then when people walk underneath, they'll drop down and they just rip you, like rip your neck up and everything.
What's this?
No, no, it's anyway.
It's like a cousin of a brown bear, but they hang out in the trees and then when people drop.
They'll drop.
No fucking way this is.
Have you ever heard this?
My dad was killing me.
What?
Oh, my dad.
Wait, dude, I looked it up.
This is real, bro.
Yeah, man.
Why have we never ever heard of it?
Are you guys telling me you've never heard of a drop bear?
You've got to Google it after this podcast.
It'll go wild.
I promise you.
Oh, my God.
Put Clip it and put Americans finally learned the truth about drop bears.
Yeah, promise you.
Seriously.
It's like our Vietnam.
I'm shocked.
There's videos on Twitter.
Wait, what's the thing with the like, you guys had a war with the fucking birds?
You know what I'm talking about?
Yeah, the worst than the drop bears.
Honestly, people have to ride their bikes, right?
And they have helmets on with big spiky things around because magpies are real.
And they'll come and attack you.
No, it wasn't magpies.
You guys literally had a war of weapons.
Hold on, let me.
That guy Slingshot donated $69.
Starting from the right.
10.1 9.7, 8.3, 5.6, 6.2, 6.7, 9.4.
Sorry, guys, I don't rate dudes lol.
Wait, Nick, could you Google the emo, emu, emu war, emu, war?
Oh, the emu war, that was.
This was an emu war.
How many animal wars have you guys had?
Listen, those emus is getting.
Yeah, it's kind of funny.
I know who they are, but explaining how safe it is, but we forgot about the drop bears.
Yeah, which is a good idea.
Wait, I do want to say for terrorism.
We did get a bunch in okay.
This was 1932.
It was in Buddies.
It was a military operation undertaken in Australia over the later part of 1930 to address public concern over the number.
Damn, bro, he fucked that emu up.
Scroll down, scroll down.
That emu would have been told shit at the top.
Look at these battlefield photos.
Holy shit.
Scroll down.
Bro, wait, scroll back up.
Scroll back up.
Scroll back up.
Who are the primary victims of the emu?
900?
Wait, hold on.
986.
986 emos confirmed kill.
Bro, executed by the money.
It was 20,000.
Snapshots.
No scope.
That's crazy.
They were out there catching up.
Scroll down.
Scroll down.
You're that emu court case.
What?
Emu in court.
Look at that guy.
He's an emu killer.
What a fucking fucking war crime.
We have a famous fucking war criminal.
We have a statue of him in the town square.
Let's fucking take that shit down.
Fucking war criminal.
Scroll down.
They disregarded the Geneva excuse me.
This is like our version of Abraham Lincoln.
Keep scrolling.
He freed us from the fucking other war criminal here.
There had to be good education.
Scroll down.
Okay, that's cool.
See, I'm glad we're emo preservable.
That's real.
Yeah, yeah.
I do, a bunch came in, and there were a couple questions in there.
Lambda Sky donated 70 sky.
Aussies are cool.
Jake seems like a good principled guy.
Brian is spot on with his views on modern dating and marriage, unfortunately.
Priya almost makes me want to get back up there.
Oh, Priya.
Lambda Sky.
Thanks, Lambda Sky.
I appreciate it.
Priya, do you want to, you know, you want to, you know?
Can you get some DMs?
What, what's going on?
You want some details on this guy?
You want how he's saying that he'll discuss it.
What do you want?
What do you need to know from this?
That's okay.
You're good?
Yeah, I'm good.
Thanks.
Should he slide into the DMs?
No, that's okay.
He saved me from a raccoon once.
I knew it was not.
No, sorry.
He saved me from a badger?
A drop bear.
A drop bear.
He saved me from a drop bear.
You can't.
You can't.
You can't be saved.
You can't be saved.
That's why dating's hard because we're just trying to stay alive, to be real.
Seriously, I took a girl for a walk in a park once and I saw one ready and I was like, yeah, yeah.
So they dropped.
So you did you?
Yeah, that's crazy.
They drop on you.
They have perfect timing.
Oh, they're like probably half the size of a normal bear.
But yeah.
So they'll drop on you and their midsection will hit you.
They'll wrap their claws around you and just start tearing you.
And there's literally everything.
Yeah.
I'm going to read this really quick.
We have XSense fail.
Everyone is worried about crocodiles.
Just stay away from the drop hairs.
We don't see drop bears.
Yeah.
They're in the trees.
Love Bond for two months.
Discovered she was pregnant.
Fought over homeschooling and being a SH stay-at-home mom.
She broke up with me, completely ignores me for three months, now claiming it's her ex.
Not willing to get the paternity test.
First ever ship shit show?
Yeah.
Wait, first ever ship.
Ship 100.
Shit.
100.
Yo, thank you for the super chat, man.
I think that's your first one.
Really appreciate your super chat and your patronage.
Thank you, man.
Damn.
Pre uh he was love bomb for two months, pregnant.
That's crazy, dude.
Is it your kid, though?
Or like, did you get a paternity test?
I hope you did.
He said she ain't willing to get one.
Oh, but I'm that's that's really unfortunate.
I'm really sorry that's happening to you.
Yeah, yeah.
Uh, let me just make sure a couple other chats came in.
I want to make sure I can read them.
Uh, did we go around on the from stochastic decay?
Uh, rate your intelligence on a scale of zero to 200 if you can quickly.
Uh, let's say 100 to 100.
100.
No idea.
Like 110.
It's like IQ.
Julian and Scopuchio donated $69.
That's how they measure it.
Off topic, but your man misses his Caribbean queen part.
You're doing such a great job, little one.
Also, for the boys, the next time, I'm in LA.
We're hitting a gym set.
Let's go.
I'll hit a gym session.
Slide into the DMs.
Let's do it.
Equinox West Hollywood with my boy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jake Reddle SNK on Instagram.
Hit me up.
Boom.
Let's go.
I would like to take a screen.
Actually, Brian, I'll see you.
It'll be available after the show.
That's where I was before.
Oh, Equinox in LA.
There you go.
Training in time.
Do you like IQ or intelligence in general?
Oh, the bowing question.
Nick, were you able to get the bowing video?
125.
To your man.
Nick, you can go ahead and play the clip.
Boom.
Look at the bow.
Huge.
Huge.
Sign me up.
Sign me up.
Okay, so look very attentive.
She's going to fold.
She's going to toss that in the pant, the laundry, excuse me.
She's look, dinner's ready to go.
He gets home from a grueling podcast session.
She's got a beer ready.
Food's ready.
Brian's Dream Girl.
Dream Girl.
Oh, stirs it for him.
Dream Girl.
She's going to chew it for him, too.
Sign me up.
Stir the noodles.
Play it one more time just so we can see the bow.
Look at that.
Boom.
Unbelievable.
So going around the table, would you bow for a man?
If he would do the same for me.
No.
Can't.
Nope.
Don't.
Don't even go there.
He just was like, listen.
Can I see a bow?
Would you do it?
I mean, if he wasn't a jerk about it, yeah.
Like, you're in a talking stage.
You're in a one-month talking stage right now.
Actually, well, if he was like, yo, Selena, right?
Yeah.
Let's see a bow.
Yeah, if he said that like that, I would.
You would do it?
Yeah, if he was like, bow down, booch, I wouldn't, you know?
No, I would ask.
Maddie, have you hit a bow for Frankie?
Not yet.
Hold on.
How are you going to be part of the whatever podcast and not just be busting out bows for your boyfriend?
Because I bust all day, every day.
I'm closing the door for you when you come home.
I do all of his laundry.
I cook him food.
I do other things.
But maybe I should try out a bow.
You are withholding from Frankie as his representative.
Yeah, it's sadness.
I am disappointed.
He's told me he's confided in me.
And me.
Justice.
He's confided that he's upset that he hasn't really been receiving many bows lately or at all.
Free Frankie.
Free Frankie in the middle of the day.
Justice for Frankie.
Justice for Frankie.
Hashtag Justice for Frankie.
You promise?
I promise.
You promise to hit a bow?
I've got to record it.
Not record it.
We're going to post it on.
I have a hidden camera in the house.
Wait, that'd be good.
Wait, can you actually do that?
It sounds like an invasion of privacy.
Yeah, Ellie, I'll do it.
And then we'll post it on the whatever Discord if you guys want to see it.
I'll remake that entire video, but of me.
Actually, that's a great question.
Because I do everything in that video but bow.
Wait, yes.
Oh, wait, dude, that'd be great to have you remake the video.
Can we just do the video of Maddie from now on?
Yeah, we'll just use that from now on.
Does that girl kind of have the crazy eyes a little bit, though?
Did you guys see the same thing?
We'll do the crazy eyes.
So you got to do the crazy eyes too.
I would, yes.
I love that video, yeah.
What was his name, Julian?
If Julian was like, Karina, let's see the bow, would you do it?
Yeah.
Oh.
I don't say no.
I never say no.
Julian, you'd gotta listen.
You're from Texas, right?
Yeah, I'm not born and raised in Texas.
You're living there, though, right?
Okay.
Julian, when you're back to Texas, Julian, you gotta get a bow.
Actually, don't even ask for a bow.
You just gotta give him a bow.
And then you gotta message me on Instagram whenever you do it and be like, tell me the results of the battle.
Tell me, well, he's listening, so it's kind of, okay.
Would you, would you hit a bow?
Sure.
Okay.
If he wanted.
Yeah, of course.
Sure, why not?
I feel like Priya, I don't know.
I feel like Priya, you would fight the bow a little bit.
Would I fight the bow?
I feel like if the guy asked, you'd be like.
I feel like she'd just laugh.
Yeah, I was going to say.
I was just like, it's going to be a bit comical for me, but sure.
Oh, okay.
All right, there you go.
I mean, I feel like any woman who loves her husband would just do anything just to anything.
If she doesn't cut you cucumbers and doesn't bow, it's over, boys.
Just dump her.
It's over.
It's done.
That's a standard.
The cucumber puff.
It's done.
There's a cucumber.
It's worse than the Amu war, in my opinion.
I'm just making sure it's going to vibe.
It's bizarre.
Thank you, Morgan.
Thank you.
Oh, that was...
Thank you, Nick.
Thank you, Nick.
So, and just let's try to keep that up.
Who is the primary victim of war, men or women?
Well, apparently, I don't know, because when you asked me earlier, it wasn't a good answer.
Can I give a bit of a experience from the Russia-Ukraine war?
Well, I wasn't involved myself, but I've traveled the world a lot over the last year, and I've probably been to about 15 countries or so.
And in all of the real tourist, like digital nomad hotspots, there is a massive population of Russian and Ukrainian girls.
If you go to Bali, there's Russian-Ukrainian girls around every single corner.
Same with Brian.
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I don't know if Brian is real.
I found Jarl from Stay Safe.
Big supporter of him.
I was first Death Knight in the world to do what LK raids.
Brian, what were the first three raids in Roth?
Also, remember me.
Well, here's the thing.
I only played really.
I played a bit in the Burning Crusade, played a bit in Vanilla.
So I never played Wrath.
So I actually don't know the raids in Wrath.
But thank you, man.
Glad that you came over from Stay Safe.
I really appreciate your support.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
I can name all the raids in, you know, Molten Gore, Blackwing Lair, AQ40, NAX.
Go ahead, Jake.
Yeah, so it's just to say that there's a lot of Russian and Ukrainian girls who have fled the country and they're going to Bali and Thailand and places like this.
And that's just the nature of war and it's the nature of life.
But men are either dying on the front lines and there's about 400,000 plus men that have died on the front lines or they're fleeing the country in shame.
So it's a profoundly different circumstance for men and women when it comes to war.
Why are you looking at me?
I think all wars are a scam as well, to be honest.
I mean, no matter which country it is, you usually go and die to make some politician richer.
That's just my opinion.
My humble opinion, by the way.
That's true.
Especially the Ukraine war.
Every single war.
Oh, yeah.
Nicobayani, Ferrari, Gm.
Don't say that about the Emi war.
Emi war was just.
Oh no, the Emi War was just.
No, no, he's right.
That's the only war I support is the Emy Warfare.
They had it coming.
Genocide, those things.
We will go around the table on the question, though.
Who's the primary victim of war, men or women?
Obviously, men.
Men.
Men.
Oh, yeah, men.
Men.
Obviously, men.
I still think it's all in different aspects.
I'm not changing my answer.
But okay, so in order to be a primary victim of something, like for example, let's say there's a murder.
Would you agree that the person who's murdered is the primary victim?
Well, yeah, it's the only victim.
Well, you could say the secondary victims could be the family, for example.
Oh, okay.
I see what you're saying.
Yeah.
Then I guess men.
Yeah, makes sense.
Okay, checkmate.
I've got to explain it, you know, I've got to explain it.
What about World War II, though?
What about it?
Who's the primary victim there?
The Germans.
What the fuck?
I mean, technically, you're not wrong.
The ethnic cleansing of the Germans after World War II was one of the biggest ethnic cleansing in history.
I saw that stuff.
Yeah.
Nice.
Oh, it's not.
Why isn't it?
I'll just read it.
Loose P energy.
These busted.
whoa you got to be nice my friend have such a problem with bowing but we'll let bro you took my line We'll let dudes freaking blank all over their faces, make it make sense, bow down.
Abdul, get the rocks.
Hashtag Freenick.
8 at 18.
Almost said we would bow.
Yeah, they all said they would bow.
He just wanted something to do.
They did all say they would bow.
I do make the point that, well, I think the other one is like, so you'll have girls who would refuse to make their boyfriend a sandwich or like cook for them.
Wow.
That's crazy.
But they'll let a dude splunk all over their face.
That is crazy.
Who do you think was the primary victim of World War II?
You're a history buff.
Do you mean between men and women?
No, I mean just in terms of the European countries.
Who got demolished the hardest?
Wasn't the total death count for Russians like the highest, I think?
Yeah, I think a lot of it was internally.
But I mean, so like in terms of, I think, total military losses between, I think it was Russia and Russia and Germany.
But actually, I'm curious in the Pacific theater if there were like the death count in like Asia was potentially because Japan was just like destroying, like running through Asia.
True.
Yeah, they did a number on Nanking, that's for sure.
Welcome to the History Channel.
I'm your host, Brian Atlas, with a little late-night history.
I think they dropped like orders of magnitude.
Sounded like some ASMR.
On Dresden alone, they dropped orders of magnitude more nukes than even Hiroshima.
What are your thoughts on the Maginot line, Jake?
What's that?
What do you think about the Maginot line?
What's the Maginot line?
What are your thoughts on it?
You'd love to tell me that.
The Maginot line.
The Maginot line.
It was a line around the French border.
I'm getting zesty.
Okay, I should stop then.
Okay, all right, moving on.
That was pretty.
Moving on.
Wait, we got some notes from some people.
Make him act up.
Jake, you really make it Ryan Activity.
Yes, he's got that imp.
Yeah, okay.
He's got that impact on people.
Wait, hold on.
Let's see here.
We have notes.
We need to get through.
Where are we?
Jesse.
It's you.
Okay.
Yeah.
You said that you'd love to be on the podcast with all the liberal anti-Christian women who deny that the Christian conservative lifestyles are truly more pure and successful as someone so young.
I'm only 20 who already has so much financial success.
I own real estate.
I'm in a very committed long-term relationship with a surgeon, believe that I can be a great talking piece on your podcast, great strength in what I believe in.
I think I could be an entertaining lady for your viewers.
So wait, you own real estate or?
So we own a house and I have purchased lots of land, like lots, that are developing.
In Wisconsin?
No.
Different state.
Okay.
State that I live in with my boyfriend, where he practices.
So I've done that, and I have made a lot of success at 20 years old.
I think I came from a different situation, so I am Orthodox.
My parents raised me Russian Orthodox, which meant like you were treated as an adult from a baby in Russian Orthodoxy, at least.
That's what they did.
And with that, you know, I grew up in a different household.
I grew up that you have to work.
Wasn't given anything.
So.
Yeah.
And you said that you are very conservative, but you weren't always.
You said that you were an independent woman from 16 to 18.
Yeah.
And thought you thought that you don't need no man.
But life did a full 360.
Yeah.
Wait, hold on.
So a 360 means.
So do you mean a 180?
Yeah.
So if you do a 360, I used to be a prostitute, but I did the 360.
You're still a prostitute.
You're still a prostitute.
But okay.
I'm not saying you did that, just as an example.
So, okay, you were an independent boss babe.
Used to be a feminist, but you turned very traditional, conservative.
Wait, but you grew up super traditional, conservative, and then you became like feminist boss babe.
And then you came back to your roots.
Came back, yeah.
Flip-flop?
The pendulum.
Flip-flop, it's pendulum.
There's another one.
Windscreen wipers.
What's that?
What's that Australian?
What's that Australian?
Boomerang?
I don't know.
Boomerang would imply 3CTV.
I'm not sure what I'm talking about.
Pendulum.
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Humans are the largest victims of war.
Why do the majority of humans allow the minority wage war on their behalf?
Word.
Allow the minority wage war on their behalf.
Well, there's not much you can do when you live in a world full of propaganda and you have people at the very top of society pulling the strings and they have their own financial interests and their own Machiavellian power interests.
And they impose these things upon us and we have to try and resist it as much as possible.
I personally, I think we should annex Canada.
Leibensraum.
A bit of living space.
What do you guys think?
Should we annex Canada?
Yeah.
I think it's a big threat.
Like it's getting super woke.
So I think we should like.
I think it's going to become a Muslim country in a few years.
Could be.
I do think like what something I thought like just for our national security, I think we kind of just like I think if you pull up a map, I think we just take everything down to Panama because like that's there's like a very narrow like piece of land there.
We take everything down.
So okay, we're gonna annex Mexico.
A lot of this.
I've seen this a lot, like pretty deeply.
I have goals.
I've got an idea for you, Brian.
If you really want to do that, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
Don't cancel.
If you really want to do that, you should get some powerful friends, buy an island, find somebody to work on your behalf, make them a fake billionaire, get them to take lots of politicians to the island so you can compromise them, and then you can have them in your pocket and get them to annex Canada.
Nobody wants to be able to do that.
That sounds familiar.
That's really genius.
That sounds a bit familiar.
I'm kidding.
That's probably a million.
By the way, I'm joking about the.
I don't want to annex the Central America, okay?
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I am back.
Bring the guy in the back on the mic.
I think he needs to be allowed to speak.
The guy in the uniform.
Give us your credentials.
AKA your gaming experience, please.
Also, Brian, come to Texas.
Hey, can we say on that?
I've never been to Texas.
I'd like to, though.
Spencer actually.
Gustavo.
Spencer actually is a philosopher.
Gustavo.
He's a philosopher.
He does philosophy.
He's a very intelligent man.
He's a man of few words at the back there.
But if you get talking to immigrants.
Spanish stoicism.
And I'm not even joking about that.
It's very true.
Very true.
Bringing it back to Jessica here.
I will come to Texas eventually.
Eventually.
We're going to bring whatever on the road.
Eventually, maybe, maybe, maybe, we'll see.
You, wait, so you're saying how you were, you know, raised conservative, became an independent woman feminist from age 16 to 18.
Did that manifest itself, though, like, with dating?
Like, was there a period of promiscuity?
Well, so when I was like, I would say maybe the gap was like 14 to 18.
But I grew up probably not with the best father role model as far as how their marriage with my mom, my father was.
So I always thought I don't want to be in a situation that my mom was in.
I don't think I could find someone who would treat me that way or treat me better.
I didn't want to be in a situation where that was ever possible.
I never wanted to be with what it was.
So I was like, nope, I'm not going to get into a relationship.
I'm not going to date.
But I was a young, rebellious girl.
And I liked attention because I wasn't getting it at home and didn't have a lot of friends, kind of.
And I liked the attention that I was getting from men.
And I was always into older guys.
Obviously, I didn't, I wasn't with anyone when I was underage.
But there were definitely situations I did go through like a little bit of a phase.
I mean, I moved out at 16.
I worked at a hospital immediately, worked at nursing home.
I was working like 60 to 80 hours a week, just grinding, trying to get money, living on my own.
At the time, I had my own apartment.
Yeah.
Well, you say in your notes, you said you were a hardcore feminist.
Yeah, I.
So, I mean, what were some of the hardcore things?
But I had that, like, I hate men.
I was saying that.
Damn.
Definitely did a 180 there.
I thought that men really were objective creatures and that's all they wanted.
I didn't think that I could find a true marriage or find someone that was capable of loving me the way that I want to love somebody.
So I just thought, you know what?
If it's just physical, it's just physical and that's fine.
What was it that changed it?
Finding Alex.
Or my boyfriend.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And did he bring you around to these ideas?
Is he a conservative sort of guy?
He, yeah, he is very traditional.
But I think it just kind of happened naturally.
I just, when we met, I can't even explain.
It's when you meet someone, that chemistry, the instant, yeah, this is the person we can talk for forever.
We can see each other.
There's a future.
And he wants to love somebody.
I think it was really hard for me to see a man loving their wife the way that I wanted to be loved.
Yeah.
And he is just the best boyfriend ever.
He tells me every day, it's not just his words, his actions.
That guy Slingshot donated $69.
Question for the panel.
Would you agree that dating has become overcomplicated compared to how it was with our grandparents?
Are 40 and 50 year marriages a thing of the past?
How do we get back to that?
Exactly what she was saying.
Yes, 100%.
Way more complicated.
Way more complicated.
Unbelievably complicated.
Very complicated.
I hope 40 and 50 year marriages aren't a thing of the past.
I think social media has a lot to do and like quick access to men and women on dating apps increases temptation.
And I think that has a lot to do with it.
But no, I'm hopeful that we'll be able to get it back to how it was.
It's complicated.
There's the sugar dating.
Sugar dating.
Oh, wait, no, it was more like.
I don't even know, bro.
I'm losing my mind here.
But there's these, I blame both sides.
Men are simping in really weird ways.
They're like pay pigs and shit.
It's super weird.
That complicates things.
And then, like, you have the women on the other side of it who are taking advantage of these broken men.
And then there's dating apps, feet pics.
It's getting very complicated.
I don't know what's going on.
Instagram's probably a big kid.
Infants, Instagram.
Absolutely.
I think it depends on your geographic area, too.
People think they have more options.
I'm hopeful, like how you described it.
I think that's beautiful.
I think that's able to be found.
Yeah, I think that's phenomenal that you found that in your current relationship.
It is really, really hard with a lack of strong and good father figures in the household.
And we're seeing obviously an increased amount of either fatherless homes or poor fathers, basically.
And it's really hard.
It's extremely difficult for young boys to have a father like that or not have a father at all.
But it's also really detrimental to women, I think, because really, I've talked about this a lot lately, but the father really, really sets an example to daughters and how they should be treated by men.
And if you don't have that, it's so difficult.
I've experienced that in my personal life as well.
And it's a hard road to figure out that and navigate that.
But I'm so glad to hear that you've found that.
What did you experience in that regard?
Sorry?
I had a pretty poor relationship with my father when I was younger.
Yeah.
Was he with your mom as well?
He was with my mom for a period of time and then a lot of it went quite sour.
So it was just not a great example, but yeah, it is really, really difficult.
And it's something that I've had to make an effort to reflect on.
So yeah.
And I think it's honestly way worse.
I definitely had it way better off than my brother did.
I would always look at him and I love him so much.
We're not super close, but the way he turned out scared me because I love him.
You know, he, I remember the kid he was.
And then he just didn't, he didn't get to that point where he could be a confident man.
Yeah.
And that was the hardest thing.
And I didn't want to be with a man that couldn't be that father.
Yeah.
Now you said that you used to live a casual dating life.
Yeah.
Two men you were casual with, they fell in love with you, but you were an asshole to them.
Yeah, so before I had met my boyfriend, again, I like the attention.
I wasn't into things sexually.
That wasn't really my situation.
Just got a little bit scared, but also traditional in the sense that I didn't want to just give myself away.
So I had met one person.
We had been talking for a long time.
He was a player all over, but I just really liked him.
I loved his sister.
And he, out of nowhere, is just like, hey, I really want to date.
I want to have kids with you.
I think you'd be a great mom.
And I was like, I didn't think you'd be a great dad.
And I wasn't really nice to him.
I definitely wasn't a good person to him.
And we've fixed things since then.
And that happened twice.
And we're friends now.
All right.
Got it.
Going back to Karina here to finish your notes here.
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Secularism is stronger in Canada.
We are nowhere close to being a Muslim country, nor are they trying.
They're here to find work mostly TBH.
I have seen plenty that says otherwise, but we don't need to get into it.
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To Karina, you said, I'm telling you, females from middle school to college have always tried to get me to do bad things, to lose my virginity, we'd go out on dates, sneak out, etc.
I never understood why.
Whereas men have always protected me and wanted to preserve, protect my innocence.
They were always respectful.
They never threw themselves on me.
They always would ask if I was ready, but I just didn't want a boyfriend at the time.
Yeah, we kind of talked a bit about that.
Yeah, it's yeah, I've never been lucky with females and I never understood why.
Because I would love to have you.
You mean with friendships, right?
Huh?
Like friendships.
Like for female friendships.
Yeah, that's just my luck, I guess.
You know, that's why towards the end of college, I just stopped talking about what I want in life, what I desired, and all that stuff, because I knew they weren't going to like me for long.
But yeah, it's.
Okay.
Girl, don't let up on those beliefs.
Keep talking about them, especially.
You want to have friendships and relationships with people that have similar values to you.
Yeah.
Find them in the church.
Yeah.
That's all I can say.
Bringing it to Victoria Stang.
Yes.
You said, I'd like to discuss the recent increase of anti-feminists who mostly just hate on women in a cruel way and are basically uncle tons for gender instead of race.
What do you mean by that?
I just feel like some of them just kind of agree in a way that's just insincere.
Like women.
Can you elaborate a little bit?
So because I call myself an anti-feminist just because I don't adhere to the beliefs and the.
Oh, I agree too.
I'm an anti-feminist.
Oh well.
Yeah.
I just mean that there are some women who just take it too far, if that makes any sense.
Do you have an anti-feminist?
Yeah.
Do you have any more specific examples or can you describe it a little bit more?
No, do you mean just basically like they'll just agree with whatever like the man says?
Just for pick me, pick me.
Yeah, essentially.
It's almost like a picture of statement.
Yeah, I think females nowadays have lost a lot of empathy with men towards men.
Yeah.
A lot of empathy.
They just don't care.
They just want him to do everything.
They want the man to do everything for them, and they just want to just sit back and relax.
Just send that over to Nick.
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
I think there's a large large anti-man culture.
Make sure it's nothing.
It's very interesting.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I don't understand why anyone would hate men.
We need them.
Especially because they still want to get married and it doesn't add up.
And I'm like, yeah, people have lost the idea that we have that.
Just drag it over on the screen.
I just want to double check.
I think it's a lot.
I think it's a lot of complimentary roles and there's a beauty in that.
And yeah, we're different for beautiful and amazing reasons.
Just minimize that.
And it's important to recognize that and to adhere to those roles and values.
Yeah.
It is.
You can show that.
Okay, pull it up on the other tab.
Boys, we have an update.
This is a victory for the whatever podcast.
We have changed a life.
Apparently.
Scroll up, Nick.
Are you able to scroll up on this page?
No.
Oh, this is all it shows?
Okay, well, that was, this is the girls, scroll, make it bigger though.
It's a bit small.
Oh, so she deleted her OnlyFans.
She apparently deleted her OF.
For her.
Round of applause for her.
So, yeah.
Does that go somewhere your skepticism a little?
We'll wait and see.
We'll wait and see.
Hey.
Changing.
What's that saying?
Changing hearts and minds?
Winning hearts and minds?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Spencer came in with the Intel.
So let's see.
Where were we?
I forgot where were we talking here?
Tori said what I with Victoria.
You said, I don't know if I already read this.
Currently going through a separation that I'm not trying to reconcile.
I was seeing one of my son's fathers while I was separated.
I ended that yesterday.
I don't remember when you sent that, but also you tend to think that a girl like me can't be traditional.
I have three baby daddies, so maybe that's not the best word to describe me exactly, but it's the best way to describe what I believe is best for young women and how not sticking to my original traditional values have been unbelievably detrimental to me and my family.
I would never want a young girl to walk in my footsteps, but I also think that young women really need to hear the consequences of having low, no morals.
Single motherhood, excuse me, single motherhood isn't easy.
I also wanted to make this clear just in case my ex tries to message you about me.
I didn't get any messages as well.
Well, that's good, and you might end up getting some.
You wouldn't be surprised.
I think it's a beautiful thing what you're doing, though.
I think it's an amazing thing.
We all fall short to the glory of God.
And I think it's really important that we're able to recognize and reflect on our mistakes and admit to them.
And because we're all sinners and we all make mistakes, we have that in common plenty.
And it's great that you're willing to speak out about it and Caution young women into being weary of making certain decisions.
True to be male and Caucasian.
Yeah, it's fun.
And I'm sure.
I mean, I'm sure you have, I mean, you have three beautiful children.
They're, of course, a blessing, even though it came out of unconventional circumstances.
But that's something to be amazingly grateful for.
And I think you're doing the Lord's work.
Thank you very much.
For Shizzle.
For Shizzle, there's a TTS that's about to come through again.
Various crazy people donated $69.
Never been a worse time in recent history to be male and Caucasian.
It's true.
Or going to the gym as a man.
Can't even go to the gym and things like that.
Because females glancing over and posting that, saying that that hates.
It's my worst thing ever.
I'm just trying to sit there.
Yeah, they weren't still looking at me.
It's still violated.
Not nice.
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I agree with the panel.
I think one of the biggest detriments to society now is the anti-men population.
They want the perks of traditional treatment but don't want to give it back then blame the men.
Yes, absolutely.
Yep.
Oh, there is an epidemic, a pandemic of non-traditional women demanding traditional treatment from men.
It's insane.
It's crazy, bro.
It's crazy.
Thank you, Amanda.
Thank you, Amanda, by the way.
I appreciate it.
Glasses, how does your guy feel about this friend?
Would you put him to the test and text him you need him tonight and see how he responds?
Oh, my God.
W for strung out strung.
From years ago, we don't talk now.
I think she just meant that she reconciled.
Yeah, we're friendly, but we don't talk.
I don't speak with anyone.
You're on good terms, right?
Yeah, don't speak with anyone from previously.
Word, word.
You going back to Victoria, you said, actually, wait, sorry, this chat's been sitting here for a sec, so I'm just going to pull it up real quick.
We have Kyle Kelsey, the legend, a nurse student that I met at a festival, told me I was a piece of shit and be terrible to have family with because of my career choice to the Aussies.
They still have cool cabovers.
What?
Can you Google what that means?
The fuck is that?
So what is his career choice?
Cab Av is.
Not sure what that is.
Yo, Kyle Kelsey, thank you, man.
Good to see you in the chat.
Good to see you.
As always, man, appreciate your super chat.
Thank you.
I'm not sure where the cab over is, though.
How do you guys not know?
You guys are Australian.
What's going on, boys?
Do you guys fake Australians?
They're Kiwis.
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Appreciate it.
Family unit being eroded, main problem one in four youth drugs.
After 24 years married, had to kick mom.
Now, single dad raising two on my owners, quadriplegic.
Large swath of women just don't have good priorities.
I don't understand.
Yeah, I agree.
Thank you.
For shizzle?
Porn is also a huge, huge factor.
Yeah, drugs bad.
Wait, had to kick mom?
What?
Yeah, that's where I'm at.
Single dad raising two on my own.
Wait, hold on.
You're a single dad raising two kids and you're quadriplegic.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
How do you raise your hand?
Quadman 808.
Damn, that's.
I wish you.
I wish you Godspeed in your recovery.
I don't know if it's possible to come back.
There's been some miracles, right?
Doesn't it depend on how severe it is?
There's been, I think there's, you know, never say never.
Never say never.
Your kids are very lucky to have you.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So, listen, Quadman 808, by the grace of God, I compel you to be healed.
Faith healing.
Fucking do it.
Okay.
I was reading something from Victoria here.
Oh, Victoria.
Okay.
I have a bone to pick with the host now.
We are.
Since you said to message here with any, that's why I'm going to keep.
Okay, so I disagree completely.
Oh, I read this about the promiscuous women turning.
I don't know if we even.
Did we even.
We kind of talked about it.
I think TTS came in.
Kind of talked about it.
Did you want to, was there more there?
Not to that much.
I feel like we just, I read it, and then we pretty much just moved on.
I believe we spoke about it.
We spoke about it.
Very briefly.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, all right.
All right.
Did we, though?
Did we?
Can repeat the question.
I think we did.
Okay, well, here's my position.
Here's my position, right?
I don't think men should date women with a high body count.
Even if it's in their past, that's it.
Yeah, I don't agree.
There's anything wrong with that.
Yeah.
That's it.
Yeah, I agree.
That's my advice.
I wouldn't want it for my son.
I wouldn't want it for my son.
Yeah.
This is probably exactly what happened before, is that we all just agreed on that.
Oh, good times.
The only girl who...
What?
No, not you, Madison.
Oh, the other one who left.
What was wrong?
I don't know.
She gave two different names.
I don't know.
Wait.
I did actually have one response to the thing about it being ridiculous, me thinking it's kind of ridiculous.
So I think it's more from the angle of like, okay, I would, even if you're a Christian man, I don't think it's ideal to date a woman who has a passive promiscuity.
It seems like a matter of time.
But like who wants to, let's say the Christian man wants to wait until marriage, and then you're like encountering a woman.
So there's two things here.
This is the thing we didn't talk about.
So there's a woman with a promiscuous past who now wants to wait until marriage.
Now, if you're a secular man and you have no interest in waiting until marriage, absolutely not.
You should not be like, if you're not inclined to wait till marriage, obviously it's like, duh, you shouldn't, if you don't want to wait until marriage, go date somebody who doesn't want to wait until marriage.
Don't date somebody who wants to wait till marriage.
But if you're a Christian guy, I wouldn't recommend it either.
Because my question is to you more just like, what would you expect them to do?
Like, what do you expect, like, what do you want them to do instead?
Well, I mean, it's more, my advice is more so advice I'm giving to the men.
So I'm not saying like you should continue being promiscuous.
I think it's good if you're like reeling that back in.
But I don't know.
I'm not sure what the solution is, to be honest.
I would say though, you know, if your standard of, okay, you have a passive promiscuity and now you want to wait until marriage.
And if you're holding out for a guy who's willing to wait until marriage and who's going to accept your past, you are potentially closing the pool of potential partners that would actually date you, but they're not inclined to wait till marriage.
So for example, like you could, a man who would otherwise date you and maybe even marry you, but they don't have an interest in waiting until marriage, you are closing the door on those men.
So.
I mean.
Like, if you're a man and you're inclined to wait until marriage, why not just pick a woman who doesn't have a pass of promiscuity?
Well, why not?
Of course, that's the ideal, but that's not, obviously, that always ends up panning out.
Sorry, it's my first time.
If Andy, oh, Andy Dick, I'm assuming.
I wonder if, sorry, if there's any cursing, I guess Dick, it won't read it.
Can delete his OF, then there might be hope.
Haha, I've been doing a lot of soul searching the past year.
Do you guys honestly believe people can change?
If so, what does it take to change, I think he meant to say?
I absolutely believe people can change.
Yeah, I believe it's a lot of fun.
Even if the girls who have come on this show and even her, like, I hope that she does change and want the best for her.
But yeah, it is obviously possible to change and people can turn their lives around.
People do stupid things when they're younger.
But even on this topic of dating girls with a high body count, if you're a Christian guy and you've been waiting until marriage, there is an aspect of naivety when it comes to the modern dating world.
And if you do date a girl who has a very high body count, with that has also come she's learnt the game.
She's really eaten from the tree.
She knows how to manipulate to get what she wants and she knows how to use and abuse guys and she has that knowledge and to think that she won't bring that into the relationship and then manipulate you as well, that's a big ask.
You'd have to be a very, very strong, principled man who's, yeah, got his shit together.
I think we're also seeing a huge, huge reversion towards traditional values and people coming either back to the faith or turning to the faith for the first time.
So I think there's probably quite a few men and women that are in a very similar boat.
And yeah, I think we're underestimating how many people might be in a similar situation in that sense.
And that's why I like to have these conversations even with that girl before, because whether or not she deletes her OnlyFans and changes her life, I hope she does.
Whether or not she does is inconsequential to me.
But the fact of the matter is that contrary to popular belief that this podcast is solely watched by incels with their dick in their hand, especially a lot of young women who watch this podcast, a lot of young women who are looking for a little bit of guidance in their life and who want to see what the kinds of men that they would go for might like.
So I like to have these conversations to help guide some of the younger women who are watching, who are looking for a way forward and who want to move towards more traditional values.
Because I've said this before on this podcast.
If you understand the things that you ladies understand on this podcast, it is an absolute superpower when it comes to dating.
You'll stand out.
Building a better generation for sure.
I have a few more notes here.
We have going back to Lauren.
Lauren says, we talked about the circumcision, but you disagree with Brian's take on makeup.
Well, actually, I have to retract it because on Sunday's podcast, you kind of clarified, like, you know, if they're wearing a little makeup, it's not like, but you spent a lot of time talking about it, so I don't want to harp on it.
We can talk about it.
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We agree on a lot, but I think it's better when you have more pushback on the show.
Table of pick-me's today equals.
Thumbs down.
I do agree with that, honestly.
That everybody here is a pick-me?
No, Are you a pick-me-cause I'm not afraid of that?
No, I'm talking about the first statement.
Oh, the first statement.
Yeah.
Don't get married, boys.
Don't fucking do it.
Don't get married.
How are you going to ask for a traditional woman, Brian?
Because the traditional woman that you want is going to want to get married.
Boss man.
And I can.
Women do that shit all the time.
I get that.
I'm just saying that.
Yeah, but we've said that that's.
Equality.
I'm not going to marry you, but you better do my laundry.
You're such a troll sometimes.
It's true, though.
What?
That word.
I'm just saying.
You know?
I agree.
That was a new one, actually.
I understand your argument.
Obviously, it's incredibly difficult with the lack of traditional women out there, but you can't expect a traditional woman and then not adhere to the values that she's going to want as a marriage.
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I personally give you a standing ovation.
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Oh, my God.
Wow.
Brutal.
No, that was funny.
That was funny.
I liked it.
That was good.
Even Quadman would be laughing at that.
Yeah.
I don't think they want to be like coddled.
You know, they want to be treated equally.
Yeah, you can joke about me, right?
I would assume so if they have a good sense of humor.
There's some humor about it.
It's important.
Maybe.
It's important to be able to laugh at yourself, man.
Yeah.
It's very important in the Australian culture.
It takes in any culture.
At least it should be.
But about the marriage thing, in favor of.
I'm not getting.
I'm not.
I mean, it's very similar to how these feminist leftist women want traditional conservative men.
It's a very similar trait of mind.
I actually think it is a stronger position, though.
For example, like a woman who's a feminist who wants a guy to pay for her first date.
I do think that a man being hesitant to marriage, even if he's traditional or inclined to be traditional, or he desires a traditional partner, I think it's really valid because the state has sort of destroyed marriage.
And there's laws on the books when it comes to marriage that like there's actually tangible reasons for why a man could object valid, like valid reasons for a man not wanting to get married under the current social climate and under the current legal climate.
I don't object to that whatsoever.
So I think it like men have a valid reason.
No, I understand the hesitancy and it's completely valid.
But in the same breath, you can't expect this very moral traditional woman to not have her own desires, traditional desires of marriage and family.
For shizzle.
Can I just say with this argument, I always find it a little bit useless, and I enjoy watching you guys talk about it, but the argument of whether men should get married or not.
Obviously, if we want a healthy society, men should get married.
But this is a spiritual problem.
This is not a political problem.
This is a problem that people don't believe in God anymore.
As atheism has gotten more prominent in our societies, everything just tends to crumble.
So when people don't believe in God and that they're not a part of a church and they don't adhere to that sort of worldview and lifestyle, this seeps in.
So unfortunately, as much as it would be, we can argue back and forth about just secular people as to whether they should get married or not and what are the perks and what are the risks, because there are a lot of risks involved.
They're also good perks as well.
This is a spiritual problem.
Absolutely.
I completely concur.
Yeah.
I mean, it's very dangerous these days for men to get married in a secular sense.
As much as I'm a proponent of the nuclear family and I've my own goal one day, I completely understand why a man wouldn't want to get married.
Yeah, I mean, I completely agree.
In a secular sense, I mean, you heard what Liam just said then.
Men are getting absolutely shafted on the daily.
Yeah, I agree.
I would like to know what advice you would give to men to kind of seek out the right type of woman so that they don't get caught in that situation later on if they do take this.
Well, this is a really tough one.
Yeah, yeah, no, that's a good one.
But this is a really tough one because if you don't have a religious worldview and belief, then if you're in a secular relationship, how do you define your values?
You know?
So, once again, I would say probably seek out some sort of a okay.
Here's what I'd say to guys: go and do some research into the apologist William Lane Craig and look at his work into the case for Jesus Christ.
There's also a movie called The Case for Christ, and there's a book called The Case for Christ as well.
And it lays out all of the details about why Jesus was a historical figure and how he died on the cross and all of the evidence that he was resurrected, and see if that changes your mind as to whether Christianity is just a myth and a fairy tale.
Because you can't just click your fingers and start believing, you can't just click your fingers and just become a Christian.
You have to actually do the intellectual heavy lifting.
And a lot of people want a lightning bolt and they're like, oh, that's my spiritual moment.
But unfortunately, for most people, it's about getting up every single day and fending off all of the ills of the world and all of the degeneracy of the world, all of the cultural and political ills, and all of the squalid behavior that we engage in, and to try and actually create your own foundation and to try and, yeah, but it's not easy.
It's something that we have to do every single day.
Yeah, I completely agree.
And I think that marriage falls apart a lot of the times, I mean, like you were saying, due to the lack of religious beliefs.
And I mean, we are in such a secular world right now.
But there's nothing, if you don't have God as the foundation of your relationship, what are you being held accountable to?
Yeah.
Like there's nothing, yeah.
Like you said, there's no moral backbone.
Like we can all say, I mean, there are sets of morals that we on a broad scale, even the secular world, can agree that are wrong, but obviously our morals have to come from somewhere.
And when you don't, and when you are, when you have secular beliefs, there's no backbone to that.
There's no origin to that.
And yeah, it's very hard to continue to define the smaller the ills go.
Yeah.
100%.
For Shazol, a couple more notes here.
We have.
You didn't want to engage on the makeup thing?
No, no, I think you're absolutely right that some people can look like a completely different person and it is very deceiving.
But I thought your perspective prior to Sunday was that you didn't want any makeup.
Like you would have to have your.
That is what he'd prefer.
That is.
On a panel.
If I have in a female girlfriend or partner.
Donald Trump donated $69 to the Irwin kids.
Does Australia have the same laws as the USA regarding child support and alien?
And the aka, the guy gets screwed.
I know Singapore has neither, and men are more willing to have families.
I mean, I'm probably, I have 12 lawyers that work for me, so I'm the bad one to answer this because I don't really do well with the law.
So maybe you could take this one.
Yeah, Australia has pretty strict laws as well.
And these are commissioners throughout the Western world.
Amanda underscore.
I'm going to just skip it and then if you want to finish.
And then I'll, Amanda, I'll re-trigger this in a sec.
Yeah, I mean, Australia has equally bad laws.
I'm not 100% sure about what the laws are in the United States, but in Australia, women win all the court cases as well, pretty much, and guys get constantly screwed over and they get their kids taken away from them.
And this is one of the main reasons for male deletion.
And there's a lady called Bettina Arndt, who's an Australian author.
I had her on my podcast, the reality-based podcast, if anyone wants to go check it out.
And she wrote a book called Men Too, and she just goes through all of the statistics about how men are getting screwed in the legal system.
And unfortunately, one of the things that nobody wants to talk about is that men are deleting themselves at unprecedented rates in society at the moment.
And one of those reasons is because they get into there.
And a lot of people will say, oh, yeah, men should just talk about their feelings more.
But unfortunately, what happens when you've got nowhere to go?
A lot of the people who are deleting themselves are north of 40.
That's the biggest age bracket.
And a lot of the people in that bracket who are deleting themselves, it's because they've lost their family.
They've had breakdown of relationships.
They've been financially drained.
And then they get to a point where they just, what's the point in even living?
And then they end up on a noose.
And this is a massive problem that nobody wants to talk about.
Good answer.
Well put.
Let me pull up the message from Amanda here.
Amanda underscore the underscore med underscore tech donated $69.
This is one of the best panels that I have watched and I have admittedly binge-watched a lot of them.
Very great discussions, off topic but to the nurse.
The lab does not emalize samples on purpose.
I'm not a nurse.
I'm not a nurse anymore.
I don't know what that means.
Did somebody want to talk about emalizing wings?
Well, that's good.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you, Amanda, for the nursing.
Knowledge bomb, info bomb, truth bomb.
Appreciate it.
So wait, okay, on the makeup thing really quick.
Okay, so if I, let's say in this hypothetical world, I just had authoritarian, like total power, would I ban makeup?
I would ban makeup.
Makes sense.
You couldn't produce it.
You couldn't buy it.
You couldn't wear it.
In fact, the penalty is producing it, misdemeanor.
Wearing it, felony.
You know what happens straight to jail.
A black market for makeup.
You put on some mascara straight to jail.
You'd have makeup cartels, makeup cartels.
Because you'd open up a black market for makeup.
And then you'd have like Pablo Esmond of makeup.
They're wearing the crime on their face.
Yeah, I was going to say, it was pretty identifiable.
You don't think this is going to be like the most authoritarian?
The police.
Take it over North Korea.
That's the makeup police.
Like, what do you guys think?
guys down for that like if i just i hate wearing makeup i can't let's go Let's fucking go.
I'm chilling.
That's why, like, I'm the lowest rated person.
No other women get to wear makeup either.
Yeah.
I'd be the first one selling black market makeup and I'm just kind of leveling.
No, you're right there.
See that gap in the market.
Maddie's bad.
Maddie's in this budget instead of it.
It would make it a lot less competitive for females.
It would level the plane female.
It would.
You can't wonder in any other way.
It would save on time.
It would save on a lot of time.
It takes so much time.
I can't do it.
Too many million a year.
And it's expensive.
It's not cheap.
Because you just make alcohol in your bathtub and you become rich.
So I'll be making makeup in my bathtub and selling it on the streets.
Sounds sanitary.
I just think it is.
Take it from the money.
I think we'd see improvement on mental health.
For young girls, too.
I'd ban for a while.
Like for cosmetic purposes.
Because I think if you banned makeup, you'd have to ban plastic surgery.
Fake titties first to go.
If you did.
You have to get them out.
If you already have them, there's not like a grandfather shit.
They have to be removed.
What about those who like to do that?
Because I think if you did ban makeup, more women would get more plastic surgery.
Plastic surgery banned too.
Yeah, no, that's what I was saying.
You'd have to ban both.
You'd have to ban both.
Yeah, both of them.
Get rich.
Yeah, I would also have been...
What else would I have been?
Those are high-waisted jeans.
Really?
Yeah, I don't really like them.
I don't know.
You'd like low-waisted better or just like a mid-waist?
I don't even know.
People would have a better idea.
Do you have a preference on jeans?
No, they're here.
I don't know.
I'm just joking.
I don't care about the jeans.
You guys down for the banning of the makeup, though?
Yeah.
I'm down first.
Are you guys going to vote for me?
Hey, I like my villain, man.
If it's banned for everyone.
I will get power through democracy, but then I'll take the democracy away.
I'm just saying.
Of course you would.
Okay.
If you actually had the power, though, would you criminalize that?
Would I criminalize makeup?
Like, actually.
I'd probably get the understatement.
Atheists are good-hearted people, and to disregard their beliefs because you feel so strong in your convictions makes me sad.
Do you believe that Christianity is the only answer?
Oh, that's an easy one.
I mean, you just have to look throughout history, and you have to look at the most successful cultures and the most successful societies throughout history.
And then you look at what happens when societies degenerate into atheism.
There's many examples of it throughout the entire 20th century.
You can just look at the Soviet Union.
You can look at Mao's China.
These are cultures that worship their leader, their authoritarian leader as God.
And human beings have an innate desire to worship.
And if it's not going to be God that they're going to worship, they're going to worship something.
And then I would ask you if you said that atheists have good beliefs.
What are their beliefs?
And how are they founded?
That's not to say that they are not good-hearted people.
Of course, there can be very secular people that are good-hearted.
They're just lost.
Yeah.
No, I'd say, yeah, they're good people.
But Jordan Peterson's got this great quote where he says that our culture and our society is living off the corpses of our ancestors.
And what he means by that is that good people in the modern world tend to act like Christians.
They'll act according to the Christian worldview.
Absolutely.
However, they won't have a religious conviction.
But that's because we're spoiled.
But unfortunately, if you don't replenish the food, it wears out after a while.
And I think we've seen the late stages of that.
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That's good.
That's good feedback.
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Guys, we are going to try to wrap up in about 10, 20 minutes.
So if you want to get your last TTSs in, there's one that's about to come through.
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Ban face tattoos.
Women, if you couldn't use markup anymore and it was illegal, would you tattoo your face to look like it has makeup on it?
Fuck face freckles.
Do you want to stand?
People do do that.
Yeah.
My eyebrows are tattooed on.
Yeah, I was going to say people do tattoo makeup on permanent, amazing and permanent makeup.
I suppose that would be a bluepoil.
I don't know.
Well, actually, you know what?
Fuck it.
I'm banning tattoos too.
Can you ban mumbo rap as well, if possible?
Yeah, I'm banning down.
Can you ban fake jewelry on rappers as well?
Please?
Sure.
Okay, that's active.
Well, I hear that they were ging jewelry as like replicas of their real jewelry, so they don't get it.
You know what?
That's actually not untrue.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no.
A friend of mine does that as well.
I'm just going to try to get through.
So bringing it back to Lauren, your notes here, I'll just prompt you.
You did say you can't.
Well, actually, I'll just ask the question going around the table.
Can you be sexist towards men?
Yeah.
Just going around the table.
I'm just going to skip over that just for a single time.
You said that you believe the feminist movement is responsible for the high rates of diagnosed depression in women today, as well as the high rates of divorce in society.
Yeah, I was fed this whole lie growing up that, and it's just propaganda and media attention, honestly, about girl boss, you want to go to school, go to college, get a good career, make all this money, and you don't need a man and all of these things.
And I believed it and I pushed myself very hard.
And ultimately, where I am now, I enjoy my job, I do, but it's the last thing on my priority list.
I find so much more satisfaction being a wife and a mother.
And I think that this feminist movement, I honestly, I could have worked as a nurse prior to the feminist movement.
I don't mind if I don't have the right to vote.
I trust my husband to do that for me.
So, yeah, I think it God bless the grime donated $69.
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Yeah.
For shizzle?
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Thank you for the message.
I'll just move on to the next thing here.
You also said that men who play video games should be considered a red flag.
Well, okay.
Listen, I know I'm going to get a lot of pushback for this, but my whole thing is that I just see men going getting almost, it's like an addiction for them.
So they spend hours upon hours upon hours.
And like I said, I just really want my husband to be involved with our kids and active and actually doing things outside and playing outside.
And so we kind of have that rule in my house for my boys too.
So yeah, it's a kind of a red flag just to be aware of.
Of course, people have self-control, and that's totally fine.
Can I add something?
My husband played video games most often when he was very depressed.
And so that's why it was like a negative thing in our household.
Yeah.
Yeah, I've seen just one of my brothers used to play video games as well a lot when we were growing up and he would get so angry if he lost a game that he would throw the controller and stuff like that where I just feel like we could be having good interactions with people in person and again just paying attention to our loved ones and friends and yeah.
Would you change your mind if that was his main source of income?
Because some of these people are like making millions.
Yeah, I don't.
I think I just grew up kind of in a like a different time.
I didn't, there wasn't like any of this, I mean, we had like dial-up and stuff.
So it wasn't really a form of like payment, really.
But no, I don't think I would change my mind.
I think I'm pretty set in that.
I don't think I would be attracted to someone that was.
Okay.
So you had last few dating stories.
What's the one with the Bane thing?
Oh my goodness.
Oh Lord.
I went on a date one time and he took me to a restaurant and he said to me, Do you, oh, do you know Bane from Batman?
And I was like, no, I actually don't.
And he was like, well, I can do a really good Bane impression.
And I was like, oh, that's cool, but I don't know who that is.
So I don't know if it's going to be good or not.
And he didn't care.
Like, he just did a Bane impression the entire time, like throughout the dinner, talked to the waiter that way.
It was so embarrassing.
Like, now I know what Bane sounds like, but like, definitely like the worst impression.
Can you do it?
No, no, no, I can't do it.
Secondhand cringe from that story.
Yeah.
One of you guys do.
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Brian, how do you mentally recover from doing these shows?
It takes settle.
It takes a toll.
Oh, you think I mentally recover from doing that?
You think?
Bro, I'm losing my maribles here doing this shit.
You see this, guys?
I don't know.
I'm losing a little bit of hair right here, boys.
Like, right in this area.
It's starting.
I've had a decent head of hair, you know, mid-30s.
I'm starting to lose it, boys.
That's why I need your support.
I need your patronage.
I'm going to have to go to Turkey soon, boys.
It's over, bro.
Me and Chase, bro.
I've got you covered.
We got supplements for that, man.
You got subs?
Okay.
Boys.
Aesthetic cosmetics.
You know, I had a good run, but like, you know, the stress, hair's falling out.
So I honestly, I start accruing mental damage from doing the show.
Do you actually like find that sometimes you have days where it just drains the fuck out of you?
Oh, yeah.
Every day.
No, because I just, I don't think people realize.
Even like a six-hour podcast, you don't realize how draining it actually is.
You know what I mean?
I'm doing it twice away.
It was one of the first things we spoke about when people from the outside looking in, they're like, oh, you just flip on a camera, talk to people and become popular.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, it's a full-time job.
I mean, truth be told, though, the draining part isn't sometimes look, it can be annoying, sometimes like during the actual show.
A lot of it is like what goes on before the show, behind the scenes.
Like, I think that's the draining part.
And then, like, just being involved in content creation, there's a lot of drama.
Like, this is like a lot.
A lot of these people is like some high school shit.
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of drama with like these, some of these creators in the space.
And I try to avoid it.
Like, I don't talk shit about people.
I try not to get involved in beef, but people will talk shit on Twitter.
And I've mostly avoided getting dragged into it.
But sometimes I've been baited and responded to.
Let's do what Joe Rogan says.
You post and you ghost.
That's it.
Yeah.
No, but I mean, and then there'll be people who fucking lie and slander and, you know.
Welcome to the world.
Oh, I mean, almost every single week I'm dealing like with some bullshit, some girl on a previous show.
Oh, I was a victim.
The way I was treated, it was traumatic.
Literally, we've just had, I'm not going to like give them any clout, but we had like two women come on the show who said it was like a traumatic experience and they cried and that they feel abused and that they're victims.
And it's just like, oh my God, bro.
Like, your Fifi's got hurt.
Move the fuck on.
Like, whatever, bro.
Girls have come on the show, been fucking rude to me.
I don't like go and try to like, I just move the fuck on.
Like, it is what it is.
But there's a lot of like bullshit, though.
Like, a lot of fucking, like, so much bullshit behind the scenes.
People, the viewers don't even know about.
Like, fucking girls, like, claiming shit.
Like, it's just crazy.
You got to insulate yourself as much as you can as well for your mental health.
Do you know what I mean?
I think I do a decent job of it.
No, man, 100%.
But, like, you can never let these people live in your head rent-free.
You know what I mean?
Just get it dealt with and just fucking move on.
Otherwise, it'll keep you up at night.
I think my trouble is, like, when, it's one thing if somebody speaks the truth and they're just like, yeah, I had a bad time on the podcast or whatever.
But, like, when they start lying, that's when it's like, okay, you want to correct the record.
But then it's like, okay, I'm just giving them like, that's what they want.
Sometimes the best response is nothing, bro.
Yeah.
That's what that's, I've almost exclusively, like, there's been, I could have addressed, there's probably been like a dozen different things that have gone down on the podcast.
I could have addressed it, but my philosophy has been like, just keep moving, don't even address it, not worth it.
And a lot of these things just end up disappearing.
I'll help get your Instagram button fixed to relate to the money.
Let's go, Mark.
That's what I'm going to do.
That would be a huge.
Thank you, man.
Welcome, my friend.
Thank you.
Let's see here.
We have, okay, the Bane thing.
This is for you, Lauren.
You were in a relationship with, hold on.
Someone who's not on par with what I want in my future, but every time I went to break up with him, he threatened to delete himself.
And I felt too bad.
Damn, that's fucked up.
So you stayed with him for a total of a year and a half out of guilt.
Damn, that's crazy.
Eventually you ended things for good.
So you realized you weren't responsible for his future actions.
And then sounds like he ended up with an addiction to substances.
Yeah, he did after that.
I felt really guilty.
But it kind of goes to what you were saying when the female can really do that to a man, a man can do that to a woman.
I definitely wasn't happy with him, but I felt so bad for him.
Like I didn't want him to hurt himself.
So I stayed in it for a year and a half total.
And even at the very last point when I did break up with him, it was like the hardest thing.
I mean, I think I was so depressed for so long because I just felt.
To make you feel better about that, like it doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman, threatening to delete yourself to anyone is abuse.
And this gentleman I told you about, the girl, Vanessa, would not subtle, don't give a fuck, lawyer up, good to go.
She would threaten to delete herself on a daily basis.
And if that didn't work, she threatened to have him arrested.
So it's like that level of manipulation, and it is manipulation, it's abuse.
So you've gone through abuse as well, just saying that.
Yeah, I offered to, you know, obviously get him help.
But yeah, it's highly concerning that you can kind of guilt somebody into staying into a relationship.
Yeah, that's how it goes.
Yeah, honestly, I do want to give a warning to any men out there.
Men or women, honestly, on this one.
If anybody uses like a threat of self-harm as leverage to get you into a relationship, to get some sort of sympathy to keep you in the relationship, you gotta run.
Like you, that is it's not gonna get better.
It's gonna get worse.
There's gonna be an escalation.
It's not gonna be just that.
You like if you, I mean, sometimes it'll be early on.
You gotta get out.
You gotta get out.
It's it's been surviving denim.
It's been there is not looking worse.
I'm looking for God.
For the panel, do you believe if the entirety of the world would follow the golden rule, would the world be better?
Truly?
It's fucking wobble on this table.
Yeah, I do believe so.
I think that the golden rule is a good one.
However, I do think that life and the world and history is somewhat of a dialectical process where we are always having different ideas fight against each other and they do tend to produce better ideas and through trial and error we can get better as a culture.
So I think the golden rule can be a good thing, but it's good to have nuance and understanding of both sides, but also not to be a fence sitter, to have opinions and to because oftentimes people who want to just follow the golden rule will get manipulated.
Because especially on the far left, they're a very subversive political organization.
Right-wingers and conservatives, we tend to want dialogue and we tend to welcome dialogue.
However, the far left are much more subversive in their political tactics.
So if you want to sit in the middle, you might just get manipulated.
And the goalposts of what the middle is tends to get shifted.
All right.
Sweet.
Any let me see here.
Any, what are the final things we need to do?
Any disagreements, final disagreements from anybody we want to can I give a plug for these guys?
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The code whatever, the code whatever, the code whatever.
You get 40% off everything.
Raid the store, buy it all, cost price, 10 bucks to try everything.
Just smash that code because I'm telling you.
Buy it and then resell it.
I don't even care about that.
What's the link?
It's iwanagummies.com.
I want to gummies.
But that whatever code is.
We have it in the description.
Just so, like, the reason that the company does it so high is as like a gift to the audience because this show wouldn't exist without the audience, right?
And there's no point trying to sell anything to anyone.
You want to gift them.
So we made it as massive as possible.
So raid the store, buy everything.
The code is whatever.
40% off.
That's me.
Yeah, the link is in the description if you guys need it.
So guys, hold on.
GG, well played to the panel.
Thank you guys for coming.
A couple quick things here before we wrap up.
We're going to do a raid over there on Twitch.
Oh, quick few things.
Guys, if anybody knows how to get the message button back on Instagram, no idea what's going on.
I know some of you can see it.
I saw some of your messages.
I know some of you can see it, but what's up?
Oh, thank you, Nick.
Are they able to, if they start a new message, are they able to type in whatever on the message?
So, yeah, so you can still message the account if you go to the message tab and you can draft.
You can always draft a message and type in anyone's username on Instagram.
But I feel like people aren't tech savvy.
They're not like, maybe they don't know that that's a thing where they're so lazy.
If there's not a message, if there's not a message button, they're not sending a message.
It's probably the case that we're missing out on potential guests because for a lot of these people, there's no message button.
I'm getting messages on my personal IG.
Hey, there's no message button.
But I think some people, well, some people just don't know.
So last couple things here.
If anybody in Dubai, guys, I'm just going to repeat it.
I'm going to repeat it every fucking show until I get my money back.
I got scammed out of $2,000.
David Spearman, Siara Stevens, they're in Dubai.
I don't know if anybody knows, can help in any way.
How did they hustle you?
So it's a long story.
I won't get into it.
But basically, this guy reached out to me.
He was like, hey, I can help you get a username on IG.
But it was a fairly sophisticated scam because apparently he does some legit stuff.
And apparently he did something for Justin Waller and Justin Waller I know personally.
So it seemed like shows his face.
So it's not like some totally a non-fucking random ass account.
Paid him $2,000 back in.
It's been over two months.
Cash or crypto?
Crypto.
Yeah.
He's done the wrong thing.
Yeah.
So my fault.
Look, my mistake to some degree.
You can be taken down if you want.
Because, yeah, I mean, you can call me tomorrow, but that can happen pretty quickly.
Just quietly.
But yeah, I mean, he scanned me through Instagram.
2,000 bucks.
I just want it back.
Like, if he sends it back, I'll just fucking drop the whole fucking thing.
But so, yeah.
If anybody, I don't know if there's a lawyer in Dubai.
You got a contact in Dubai.
He lives in Dubai.
Anybody can help out.
I was just said two weeks ago I can fix this problem in 10 seconds.
He's got this, bro.
He's got it.
I'll fix it with a big smile.
I'll do it for free, too.
Okay.
Oh, I just hate scammers, man.
That's my big thing.
Like, I hate them.
It's one of my passions.
Can you find their Instagrams really quick?
Do you know what it is?
You can just type in David.
It should auto-complete.
And then see.
Did he block you?
Chiara.
He did block me.
He did.
I don't know what was crypto.
It has to be on both accounts.
You have to do the incognito window, Nick.
But the other thing, guys, is we're going to do a Twitch raid also.
Those of you who are watching on Twitch.
So while Nick is pulling that up, I think we're going to raid.
wow grandma is raiding but i think i'm actually going to raid a different a different guy today just for to switch things up so before we do the raid i want to oh Imapa donated $69.
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Should I drop the TTS to 20 and just allow the madness to come in for the last few?
Huh?
Do I just.
Maybe no questions, though, just comments.
That could be funny.
Just respond to being all channels.
Do we do it, Chad, just as an experiment?
Fuck it.
Okay, we'll do a little.
How long are you going to give him?
Five.
We'll do that.
We'll do five minutes.
There's going to be so many five minutes of chaos.
No quick, guys.
We're going to drop TTS to 20.
So hold on.
Give me a sec, guys, just for the hell of it.
Any dating things you guys want to talk about?
Oh, body count.
Why don't we do body count?
Starting over here.
Rip.
Rip.
Good response.
Maddie.
Are you passing?
Three.
Oh, wait.
We didn't have somebody gone.
We'll come back, I guess.
Less than one hand.
Yeah, out of respect for my husband.
I can't.
Out of respect for my future husband.
Good times.
Okay.
Sure.
That's fair.
Hey, it's fair.
It's fair.
It's fair.
Hold on.
Just one sec.
I'm going to get this TTS thing going.
All right.
Take it away, Jake.
For like 30 seconds while I'm getting this shit figured out.
Okay, so let's riff on some things.
Thanks, guys.
What do we all want to talk about?
TTS is text-to-speech.
Yes.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Here we go, boys.
This could be chaos.
This could be madness.
So the chats are just going to.
I feel like there's just going to be so many people sending them in that we're never going to end the show.
Yeah, I think so.
We'll be going through every single one.
No questions, guys.
No questions, only comments.
No questions, only comments.
You think people on the internet are going to be able to do it?
I think it's ready.
I think if you, it's now.
I think you're going to open up a fortune, bro.
TTTS equals Tony.
I'm kind of scared.
TOS.
That's all I'm going to say.
It should be fun.
Don't talk about that.
Okay, okay, go, go, go.
Raid right.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
Watch none come in.
Watch, that would be very anticlimactic.
That'd be extremely anticlimactic.
But I do want to say, GG, well played to the panel.
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Good.
I hope they listen.
Thank you, Real.
Oh, wait.
I need to change this up a bit.
Thank you, Real Trump.
Appreciate it, man.
Appreciate it.
Brother, you're a legend and a scholar.
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We did.
No, it has to just roll.
The Yanks, unfortunately, you guys pronounce the T too heavily.
Yeah.
Say words are a good sort of admiration in our culture.
If you're a sick hunt, it's like you're the best thing you can be.
Yeah, exactly.
If you can say it in the middle of a sentence and nobody really notices, then you've got a shitcon, bad, sitcunt, good, basically.
Drop bears, for example, shitcon, shit count, shit, for example, sitcon.
Sitcon, yeah.
She's a sitcon.
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Appreciate it.
Oh, boy, we got a couple coming through.
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Germ theory is bogus.
Keep a healthy body and you have nothing to fear.
About the nurse thing, you mean?
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I know he used to be Secret Service before he came to whatever.
Definitely.
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Girls, you all look like queens.
I mean, let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Wait, what?
Oh, that was just Chaldean girl?
Okay.
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All right, chat.
Oh, that was a good split.
Okay, who wins in the fight?
Who wins in the fight, chat?
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I will give that a try.
I think I've already tried it, but I'll try to do it again.
Do I have to?
I think I gotta remove it on all of them.
Amanda underscore the underscore med tech donated $20.
I have a few friends in Nozzy, one in Gold Coast and one near Cindy.
I have been warned.
We mean warned.
She spelled warned.
Oh boy.
$696 sextillion 969696 quadrillion.
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Oh wait, hold on.
And two surviving donated twenty dollars.
The Super CHAT want to say thank you for a panel of well attractive work and we'll show the scrape chat with us ps.
I missed that first one.
Your journey is your own.
For you to work out through life, find your inner peace.
Shane donated $20.
Happy birthday to me.
Hey, happy a mod here.
Thank you, Shane.
Thank you.
Hope everyone's night is going well.
Happy birthday.
Yo, dude, Shane, really appreciate your patronage, man.
You're a fucking legend.
Fuck underscore Christianity donated $20.
Hey, to the Christian 32-year-old with grey streaks in back, you are extremely uptight and wanted to let you know that it isn't anybody else's problem that you're probably in a sexless marriage.
I can please secure a drop bear donated $20.
As a male nurse, I promise you there is no time for sex and that is just gross because we are dirty and patients are dirty.
Bro, do you fend off a drop bear like a sea bear?
Jasmine donated $20.
Make Maddie merch.
Well, I mean, what would that even be, though?
Just Maddie's face.
What would be Maddie Mask?
I don't even know what that would be.
A Maddie.
Yeah, that might be cancelable.
I'm not even right.
It would be just the whatever logo and then Maddie's face.
Probably cancelable, I guess.
I don't know.
Let's see here.
Okay.
Well, if oh, you can show that.
Guys, the TTS, it has to be.
It has to be through Streamlabs, just FYI.
Oh, yeah, we.
I saw it.
That was funny.
Sorry, I should clarify.
I'm going to wrap up now, though.
So we'll see if that is an issue with wrapping up.
But, okay, guys.
Oh, we have to do the Twitch raid.
So, GG, well played to the panel.
Hit the like button, please, on YouTube.
Pull up Twitch really quick.
Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
Twitch.tv slash whatever drops a follow, drops a prime sub on your way out.
If you're watching over there on Twitch, we stream Sunday and Tuesday.
Blah donated $20.
Blah, Thank you.
I guess, Twitch.
Well said.
Guys, Twitch.tv/slash, whatever drops a follow, drops a prime sub.
If you have, if you, on YouTube anonymous, donated $20 Brian, you seem to feel loss of control, which is why you love Asians and their bowing culture, submissiveness.
Wow Asians, wow Kumas, in the Co-opods Cooming um.
I like white women too.
I'll date listen, I'll date black women.
I'll date Latinas.
I prefer Asian and white women.
If I'm using a World Of Warcraft reference, I think Asian women are our bis best in slot.
You know like, when it comes to your gear and shit like you're, you know like okay, you could.
You know you could like have a sub optimal, like gear max k, donated like $25.
Keep spreading the good word.
Oh, thank you, Max K. Appreciate it, man.
Yeah, but it's like this, you know.
Like, for example, if you're playing, like, if you're on Alliance and you're playing Rogue or Warrior, like, you want to be a human for that sword spec.
Of course.
Anonymous donated $20.
Hey, Brian, how did you first meet Andrea when you first started doing videos?
Guys, I'll answer it, but no questions with the TTS here.
I'm just going to try to get this wrapped.
Introduction from a male friend of mine.
Just, I had a male friend.
I told him about this video idea I had, which was the viral one that we did.
You might be familiar with.
And then I was like, do you know any girls who like kind of outgoing, charismatic that'd be down to do this prank video?
And he's like, I got the perfect girl.
And then he's like, Andrea.
So he introduced me to Andrea, and then the rest is history.
Okay, guys, so good show.
Good stream, guys.
Thank you for tuning in, everybody.
Please hit the like button.
You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
I appreciate that.
Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
We will be live again Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
Guys, we have an insanely good show planned for Sunday.
We're going to keep it big guest.
That's all I'm going to say.
Big, big guest.
Big, bigly guest.
Okay.
Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara.
TTS Voice Guy donated $20.
Why do I do this for a living?
Let me out of here, please.
I beg of you, Brian.
Wait, Kiara?
Who's this?
Someone donated a ton of Twitch.
This looks from oh my god.
Wait, is she live right now?
Is she on underscore donated 20?
Is it the same, Kiara?
I was on a deployment to Australia for training and they dropped there for fat women.
I won't lie, I still did it.
Is it like that all over the country underscore donated $200?
Polly she term at the Lauren is a beach.
Why?
Why such beach, much beach?
Oh, Kiara, I think we're gonna have her on the show.
Kiara, thank you so much for the uh 20 uh gifted subs over there on Twitch.
Oh my god, your Bible donated $20 to the guy that got hated.
Remember, bless her you when people insult you, persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
Twist donated $20.
She sells seashells by the seashore.
The shells she sells are surely seashells.
This is wild.
So if she sells shells on the seashore, I'm sure she sells seashore shells.
The sprinkler one.
Eve donated $20.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you for another good episode.
Much love from Germany.
Hashtag buy merch.
Twitch line.
Dunkershine?
Dunkish.
Dunkershine.
Mercy.
Wack Arnold's donated $20.
I'm sorry, guys.
We're going to be here all night.
If a girl wanted to quit, maybe she should get a job at McDonald's.
Nick, you can pull up the person that we're going to rate on Twitch.
His name is Aladar Yohak Arnold's.
Thank you, man.
Is that a day show?
Yo, thank you.
You should bring on some below-average-looking dudes.
LOL.
Hope everyone has a great night.
Is that good for us?
I don't.
I'll take it.
I'll take the compliment.
Shit.
I've brought on.
Actually, maybe the person who's coming on Sunday might be.
Get Jazzy Lee Paytason on.
Oh my god.
I want to.
I'm considering twitch.tv slash Aladar.
Yeah, of course, yeah.
Twitch.tv slash Aladar.
That's who we are going to raid.
Guys, over there, those of you who are watching on Twitch, thank you guys so much for tuning in.
Drop us a follow over there if you're not following already.
We are going to raid Aladar.
He's playing World of Warcraft Classic.
It looks like he is David Tuzekiak donated $23.
I love back home.
What did I miss?
I love you, David.
I heard no questions.
Best to all for lasting so long.
It's just A-L-O-D-A-R.
Maxcado notated $20.
I'm just not ready for it to end yet.
This is a TTS.
It's called a TTS train, I guess.
I don't know.
Streamlabs only, guys.
Streamlabs.com slash whatever.
Killer of Cereal donated $20.
I'm not sure what to do with this.
We don't end until the train is a TTS trainer.
Heck of a show.
Appreciate the consistency of entertainment in this show.
Hey, Kill of Cereal.
I really appreciate your TTS here.
Thank you for your patronage, man.
Your support's been overwhelming the past couple months.
So thank you, man.
Really appreciate it.
Thank you, everybody who, you know, even just watching.
Like, even if you don't send in a message, I appreciate just everybody who watches.
Like, a year and a half ago, would have never thought we would have been where we are today, getting like 300 views a stream.
And now the podcast has been doing really well.
And I want to thank Nick and Maddie and Jamie.
Jessica Eloadi donated $20.
Your wish is my command.
My spring player goes like this.
And free.
Thank you, Jessica, you fucking legend.
Thank you.
Thank you, Jessica.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you, Jessica.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Okay, on Twitch, Nick, if you can pull that up.
Do you have it ready?
He is playing World.
He's got 26 viewers right now.
He's playing, I think, I don't know if it's Season of Discovery or no, Classic Fresh.
He is playing Warsong Gold.
He's doing a little PvP.
I'm going to start the raid.
He's about to capture the flag.
Look at this guy playing World Song Golds.
Okay, those of you who are watching on Twitch, thank you so much for watching.
Thank you so much for watching.
Leave his audio for me.
Techno, Okay, those of you on Twitch, thank you for tuning in on Twitch.
I'm going to raid Aladar.
Say what's up to him in the chat.
Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
Appreciate it.
All right, that's sent there.
We'll see that go through.
He's got 26 viewers watching, playing Warsong Gold.
Whoa, who is this?
Hey, whatever.
What's up, man?
What is up?
Hide that.
Hide that.
Oh, missed it.
Okay.
One of my favorite YouTubers, man.
Thank you, bro.
Thank you.
You come to watch me get killed.
Let's see him capture this flag.
Welcome, everyone, from whatever.
Whatever's podcast.
Glad to have you.
It's going to be a stalemate, though.
Get that.
What the hell?
It's going to be.
Whatever's favorite senior citizen streamer.
Let's see him capture this flag, bro.
Playing World of Warcraft, obviously.
But it's really late at night, and there's no.
He's got this.
We're doing from Battlegrounds here.
The Lions has the flag, too.
How's it going, guys?
The Lions has the flag, too.
It's a stalemate.
He's not going to be able to capture anybody.
He's got anybody a chance to sit down and watch any of the podcasts.
I have been watching them more lately, though.
Anyways, we can exile that.
I'm going up and up.
That's what I have to do.
You have to do what?
Once everybody's back at the table, I'll wrap it up.
So, once everybody.
I'm sound excited now.
Ghost of FEMA past donated $20.
Never do watch E board.
They are demons, not your grandma.
It is a demon.
Demons are master deceivers and know how to lead you away.
Watchy board is just opening the door to you.
Completely.
Once Liam is back, I'll wrap up the show.
So for Shizzle.
Jake, what's it like dating in Australia?
Like dating the Sheilas?
Yeah, no.
SolidFresh donated $20.
Hey, Brian, you should have more regular guys on the pot too.
I would love to drop knowledge on Christianity and relationships.
Jake's a regular guy.
Regular guy?
Beatus donated $20.
Boots and cats and boots and cats.
Pew, pew, pew, pew.
Beep, boop, bop.
Z's, Z's, Z's, Z's.
T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S.
Boing, boink, beep, beep.
Whoosh.
Sweet.
All right, guys.
So let me just make sure we're not missing anything.
I want to be considerate, okay?
We're all good there.
Guys, like the video, please, on your way out.
Thank you guys so much once again for tuning in.
Thank you to the wonderful panel for coming, guys.
It was a very good stream.
We made progress.
She deleted her OF.
We'll see if it sticks.
I think that's it.
I don't think there's anything else.
So, guys, once again, 07s in the chat.
I hope you guys have a wonderful night.
And we will see you today's Tuesday, right?
Yeah.
Okay, we'll see you back next week, Sunday, Tuesday, 5 p.m. Pacific with another dating talk.
07's in the chat.
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