FAKE VlRGlN CONFRONTED?! Liar Claims She DOES NOT Have A BBL?! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) | Dating Talk #154
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| With that said, and without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. | |
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| Brie. | |
| I'm 22. | |
| I'm from Miami. | |
| And my occupation is Changing the world. | |
| Welcome back. | |
| When you say changing the world, what are the mechanisms or ways that you're changing the world? | |
| Well, I went to Alaska at an epiphany. | |
| I want to become a teacher and teach. | |
| So that's how you do that. | |
| Is there a specific subject matter that you want to? | |
| It's a lot. | |
| Do you want me to get into it right now? | |
| Or later? | |
| Yeah, you can do that. | |
| Okay. | |
| So I decided I want to help people. | |
| Everyone seems to be struggling lately. | |
| I want to help people, so I'm becoming a teacher. | |
| That's basically it. | |
| Well, you've just repeated what you've already said, but so what do you want to teach specifically? | |
| I'm teaching how to, okay, I'm teaching like how to elevate and become who you meet who you want. | |
| Okay. | |
| But like, so do you want to teach like in elementary school, high school, college? | |
| Everybody. | |
| I'm teaching everybody. | |
| It sounds like a life coach. | |
| You're going to be a life coach? | |
| No, no, no. | |
| That is not what I'm doing. | |
| I'm not coaching. | |
| I'm teaching. | |
| Do you have a syllabus we can look at? | |
| Yes. | |
| Oh, it's ready to go? | |
| Can you have somebody email it to Nick so we can look at your syllabus? | |
| Okay, I'll try. | |
| Tell your manager or something. | |
| What's your manager's name? | |
| John. | |
| John. | |
| Send over that syllabus. | |
| We'll get fucking people to sign up for your shit. | |
| Sorry, sorry. | |
| Your course or whatever. | |
| It's not a course. | |
| Oh. | |
| Do you have a target audience in mind? | |
| Target audience, men. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Do you have a teaching credential? | |
| What would you like to teach them? | |
| Oh, gosh. | |
| Okay. | |
| I want to teach men how to become who they need to be. | |
| Because a lot of men are struggling. | |
| What do men need to be? | |
| They need to be better. | |
| How so? | |
| Well, a lot of men are talking about, I feel like we don't hold men to the same standard as we used to, and that's causing a lot of problems. | |
| So we need to go back to holding men to that standard. | |
| What kind of standards do men need to be held to? | |
| You know, like, a man has always, back in the past, been the provider, been there, been, like, the lead role, and now we're kind of like letting that go, and it's kind of making like feminine men. | |
| I would agree with you, but what are the mechanisms that you're providing to make men providers again? | |
| I'm teaching them. | |
| What are you going to do? | |
| I'm guiding them. | |
| I'm going to guide them on. | |
| Okay, Brian, you remember my three husbands? | |
| Sadly. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So, if you weren't here, but I went on this whole rant about how I wanted three husbands and one for financial, one for sexual, one for physical. | |
| I mean, one for financial, sexual, and emotional support. | |
| Emotional support. | |
| It's a lot to keep track of. | |
| Keep going. | |
| Yeah, so I wanted three husbands. | |
| But then I was thinking, people were like saying I was crazy. | |
| What? | |
| So, exactly. | |
| It's crazy to hold one man to that standard because it's not what we do today anymore. | |
| I see. | |
| So when you think about your school, you're thinking you're going to have like one module for provider, one module for sex partner, and then people can choose their nation. | |
| They can be one of those husbands to a woman. | |
| No, no. | |
| They're going to learn all. | |
| I'm making three husbands into one. | |
| It's basically a family type setup. | |
| Because it's true. | |
| Three husbands is a lot. | |
| Like, how are you going to, like, okay, who are you going to have sex with on Tuesday or shit like that? | |
| Probably the love microphone. | |
| Yeah, like, it's. | |
| Probably the sex one. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So it doesn't really make sense. | |
| So why not hold men to that standard again to become the one? | |
| So you've stated the outcome, the objective of the course, but what would be the mechanism to get them there? | |
| The teachings. | |
| The teaching. | |
| If you will, yes. | |
| The community. | |
| What are the steps to get there? | |
| What are some of the things you're thinking are the revolutionary ideas that you have that will help men become everything? | |
| Okay, so physical. | |
| They need to become conventionally attractive. | |
| Need to go to the gym, need to eat healthy. | |
| Need to know how to communicate, need to know how to flirt. | |
| Emotional. | |
| They need to know how to manifest. | |
| They need to know how to be there spiritually, how to guide women. | |
| How does a man manifest? | |
| When you say manifest, what does that mean? | |
| Sexual transmutation. | |
| Transmutation? | |
| What's he sexually transmitting? | |
| Sorry. | |
| No, what do you mean by that? | |
| I've never heard that. | |
| VD? | |
| Are you talking about VD? | |
| So you know what? | |
| You said like transmitting. | |
| Not SCDs. | |
| Oh, sexual transmission. | |
| Sexual transmission. | |
| Transmission. | |
| Of sex STDs? | |
| No. | |
| When you have sex, you manifest. | |
| You just snitched on yourself. | |
| It is the number one way to manifest. | |
| And what does manifesting mean to you? | |
| When you say manifesting? | |
| Creating. | |
| Creating reality. | |
| Okay, cool. | |
| So you're creating life. | |
| It is the number one way to bring something to life is to have sex. | |
| It's literally creating. | |
| So you think that the purpose of sex is to bring about children? | |
| Yes. | |
| So having sex is the number one form of manifestation. | |
| So you're going to teach men to have sex to manifest? | |
| What? | |
| No, it's true. | |
| That's literally creating physical reality. | |
| It's beautiful. | |
| It's beautiful. | |
| When you say you want to teach men to manifest, are you teaching them to manifest children? | |
| Is that what you're saying? | |
| Manifest anything they want. | |
| But to be able to create children or create anything, you're going to need the woman. | |
| So I'm basically helping them how to achieve anything they want through woman. | |
| I'm not really understanding it. | |
| Spencer choked me out before. | |
| Maybe it's a little complicated. | |
| Last thing before we move on to the rest of the introductions. | |
| Okay, so we're not going to linger. | |
| I won't belabor it. | |
| Previous show, you claimed to be a virgin. | |
| Oh, yes, I want to get into that. | |
| This is part of my community, my new revelation I had in Alaska. | |
| Virginity is a mindset. | |
| Okay, so I think let's entertain this. | |
| Good job. | |
| Virginity is a monster. | |
| Okay, virginity is a mindset. | |
| You can, just how now they're saying, oh, you could choose what gender you want. | |
| That's ridiculous. | |
| But you can. | |
| That is. | |
| She's trans virgin. | |
| You can change. | |
| She's trans virgin. | |
| You can, if you can become whatever gender you want to be. | |
| Why can't I become if I'm. | |
| So I so I was. | |
| Okay, I get what you're saying. | |
| That makes sense. | |
| We were dead naming her, but like dead virgining her last show. | |
| It is on my show. | |
| I've got a few questions for you. | |
| Do you mind if I ask you the questions? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| What do you mean by virgin? | |
| What does that mean? | |
| Virgin is someone who is the purest form of themselves. | |
| And in what sense would you be the purest form of yourself? | |
| What are the indicators of that? | |
| You haven't created anything. | |
| When you have sex, you create. | |
| Without sex, you're not creating. | |
| So if anything, virginity is bad. | |
| And I can get into that. | |
| I think virginity, when I went to Alaska, I thought about this. | |
| This might be a little too much for people, but I think it kind of goes, you know, how I was talking about Bible study and all that. | |
| I think virginity kind of goes against the Bible. | |
| What? | |
| Okay. | |
| Tell that to Mary. | |
| Okay, so you don't have really a definition of virgin. | |
| Your definition of virgin is having not created anything. | |
| Exactly. | |
| And by anything, do you mean life? | |
| Do you mean children? | |
| Creating anything. | |
| anything you want so what do you create when you are when if you are not a virgin what what have you created Nothing. | |
| Which the Bible is all about creation. | |
| So again, so if you are a virgin, you haven't created anything. | |
| If you're not a virgin, you have created something, correct? | |
| Exactly. | |
| Okay, so what have you created if you're not a virgin? | |
| You have created physical reality. | |
| Bro, she's trying. | |
| She's trying to. | |
| I'm not trolling. | |
| Okay, wait. | |
| So just answer the question, though. | |
| So you're not a virgin. | |
| I have decided virginity is not the mindset I want to put myself in right now. | |
| But you've had sexual intercourse, carnal knowledge. | |
| I have decided in Alaska that virginity. | |
| So you've decided in Alaska? | |
| These things happen in Alaska. | |
| You haven't been to Alaska? | |
| Because it's like fucking Into the Wild. | |
| He goes into a bus. | |
| You can choose virgin guys. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Brian's never been to Alaska. | |
| I keep going. | |
| I saw Into the Wild, though. | |
| You can choose whether or not you want to be a virgin, and I'm choosing now. | |
| From now on, I'm not. | |
| Just say hopulation. | |
| So now you're not. | |
| You're choosing. | |
| So you're like, you're a detransitioner. | |
| Like you transitioned from not being a virgin. | |
| You weren't a virgin, then you claimed virginhood, and now you're detransitioning because you were trans-virgin, but now you're not trans-virgin. | |
| It goes against my religious beliefs, so it... | |
| Yeah. | |
| What are those? | |
| Are you Christian? | |
| Okay. | |
| It goes against that. | |
| So I think I'm going to go back to non-virginity. | |
| It's a mindset. | |
| Okay. | |
| I think maybe we should. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| What about you? | |
| I'm Jess. | |
| I'm 20. | |
| And I'm a server. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| Name, age, occupation, and where you're from? | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm a server, and I'm a psych major at MiraCosta, and I'm from San Diego. | |
| And you said you're 20, right? | |
| Yes. | |
| What about you? | |
| I'm Ryan. | |
| I'm 24. | |
| I'm from Texas, and I'm in sales. | |
| I'm Jessica. | |
| I'm 21, and I'm from South Carolina, and I'm a pro-life activist. | |
| Let's go. | |
| I'm KJ. | |
| I'm from Texas. | |
| I'm 24 and I am in wholesale fashion. | |
| I'm Kara. | |
| I'm from San Diego. | |
| I'm 35, and I'm a nurse. | |
| I'm Alexa. | |
| I'm 28. | |
| I'm from San Diego originally, but I live in Silicon Valley now, and I am project manager. | |
| Can I ask a question? | |
| Pro-life activists, like, do you get paid for that? | |
| Yeah, yeah, I do. | |
| Like, but like, what is it? | |
| Can you scoot your mic that way a little bit? | |
| Yeah, I mostly do man on the street interviews, so I go out and ask people what their opinions are on abortion and then show them the abortion procedure video and take their response afterwards. | |
| So a lot of people change their mind on abortion just knowing what it is and being educated about it. | |
| So I just want people to know the truth so that they can make more life-affirming decisions. | |
| If you have more questions for her, you can ask them later. | |
| Go ahead with your intro, Jake. | |
| Yeah, my name is Jake. | |
| I'm 28. | |
| I have a YouTube channel called Rattlesnake TV. | |
| I've got a podcast called the Reality-Based Podcast. | |
| I'm from Australia, but I travel around the world making content. | |
| Currently, in the United States for a little while. | |
| What did I miss? | |
| Age. | |
| 28. | |
| I said 28. | |
| That's about it. | |
| It's me. | |
| All right. | |
| Welcome, everybody. | |
| We're going to go around the table once more. | |
| So what's everybody's current relationship status? | |
| So are you single, talking stage, situation ship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule, sex cult, whatever it may be? | |
| If you're single, how long have you been single? | |
| And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in? | |
| Starting with you, go ahead. | |
| Currently building my empire. | |
| Creating. | |
| That doesn't answer a question. | |
| Answer the question. | |
| Like I said, currently building my empire. | |
| I'm recruiting, so that's how I was last time, last time, this time. | |
| Okay, but this is dating show. | |
| Why don't you tell us your answers to the question? | |
| Am I currently married? | |
| No. | |
| But am I single? | |
| I want to consider myself I am building something. | |
| So elaborate. | |
| Are you sleeping around? | |
| I'm not in a talking stage, and I don't sleep around. | |
| I don't agree with that. | |
| So elaborate a bit? | |
| I am currently creating my empire. | |
| I don't know how you want me to elaborate, Brian. | |
| What? | |
| Like, are you. | |
| Is there a man you text at night saying good morning? | |
| Is there a guy in the face of the story? | |
| Is there someone you say? | |
| There's not a man. | |
| Is there multiple? | |
| There's an empire. | |
| This is many of them. | |
| Wow. | |
| Empire. | |
| Empire. | |
| Okay, next person. | |
| You didn't really answer. | |
| What's your longest relationship? | |
| Oh, my longest relationship? | |
| I don't think I'm going to identify with being and ever being in a relationship. | |
| I know last time I said it was like five, six years. | |
| Now, like I said, I feel like you identify with the mindset you want to identify with, and I'm going to identify with zero. | |
| Wait, what about the three husbands you're mentioning? | |
| So the three. | |
| Hold on, no, no, no, no. | |
| Here's what we're going to do. | |
| Okay, look. | |
| If you're going to troll. | |
| I'm not trolling. | |
| Brian, I'm not trolling. | |
| Stop. | |
| I'm not trolling. | |
| If you're going to troll, you have to do a better job of it. | |
| I'm not trolling. | |
| That's the thing. | |
| It's so obvious that you're trolling. | |
| Like, it's trolling. | |
| You laid on to. | |
| Do you want to pull up? | |
| You laid on. | |
| Do you want to pull up the applications? | |
| The what? | |
| The applications? | |
| No, not really. | |
| Okay. | |
| But you're laying on the troll too thick, and it's too obvious. | |
| So look, if you engage in good faith, excuse me, in good faith, I'll include you in the conversation. | |
| But like, I'm not inclined to, like, I don't want to engage with you on the troll level because then it's just like wasting time. | |
| I'm not going to troll. | |
| You could pull up the applications. | |
| You can't answer a question straight. | |
| Like, it's always meanders and just answer the question straight. | |
| Okay, it's because sometimes we have different ways of, like, our brain works differently. | |
| I believe that. | |
| My brain works differently. | |
| You know. | |
| Clearly. | |
| You know, my brain works differently. | |
| You watch the video. | |
| I don't dispute that, but. | |
| Okay, so just because I don't answer in the way you do. | |
| Trolling is a game of push and pull. | |
| So you have to push a little bit, pull a little bit, push a little bit. | |
| I don't want her trolling to begin with. | |
| I'm not going to do it. | |
| Maybe a subtle troll, at least like, you know. | |
| I'm not trolling at all. | |
| The worst part is that I'm not. | |
| Look, if you're not trolling, then that's an indictment on you, not us. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I'm not going to come on here. | |
| Your relationship status? | |
| I'm in a talking stage. | |
| Talking stage. | |
| How long has that been going on? | |
| I want to say two weeks. | |
| Two weeks, okay. | |
| And longest relationship? | |
| About two years. | |
| Two years. | |
| And so this talking stage, how did you guys meet? | |
| Bumble. | |
| On Bumble? | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| So is it exclusive yet, though? | |
| No. | |
| Okay, so are you talking with other people? | |
| I'm not. | |
| I don't know if he is, but I wouldn't be bothered by it if he was. | |
| Okay. | |
| And your two-year relationship, how did that end? | |
| I had two that were two years. | |
| The first one, there just wasn't love anymore, so we decided to split up. | |
| And the second one, do I have to fully disclose it? | |
| No, you don't have to. | |
| We just didn't get along. | |
| Sure. | |
| All right. | |
| What about you? | |
| I am single. | |
| Single? | |
| How long have you been single for? | |
| I've been single since last November. | |
| So six months? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Six months? | |
| Longest relationship? | |
| About three years, three and a half. | |
| Three years? | |
| Why did that end? | |
| While we were in high school and we went to different colleges. | |
| Okay. | |
| And your relationship that ended six months ago, how long was that one? | |
| That one was about two years. | |
| Why did that one end? | |
| Well, yeah, he cheated. | |
| He cheated? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Did you cheat? | |
| No. | |
| Was it a dead bedroom? | |
| What does that mean? | |
| Dead bedroom, like you stop having sex. | |
| Oh, no. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| I am currently single. | |
| My longest relationship was two months. | |
| And we broke up two months ago. | |
| So your longest relationship was the one that just ended, is that correct? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Two months. | |
| And I think when you first reached out, if I recall, you were initially, you were in that relationship. | |
| Yeah, the first time I reached out, I was in that relationship. | |
| Something's changed since then. | |
| I'll come back to that in a bit. | |
| What about you? | |
| I'm in the talking stage. | |
| For how long? | |
| One month, a little over? | |
| I'm sorry, one little over what? | |
| One month, a little over. | |
| One month, okay. | |
| Longest relationship? | |
| Three and a half, four years. | |
| Four years. | |
| Like in the middle. | |
| Okay. | |
| How did you meet the talking stage guy? | |
| Mutual friends. | |
| Are there any other guys in the picture? | |
| No. | |
| Okay. | |
| Why did your four-year relationship end? | |
| He was ready to get married and I was not. | |
| You weren't? | |
| How old are you? | |
| I am 24. | |
| And I was 20 at that time when he was. | |
| How old was he? | |
| He was 23. | |
| Why was he so keen to get married? | |
| We had been dating for a long time. | |
| He was just ready. | |
| Interesting. | |
| Yep. | |
| So he was, when you guys broke up, you were 20 and he was 23? | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay, so this was like kind of high school, partial. | |
| Yeah, it was high school, beginning of college. | |
| Yep. | |
| Okay. | |
| And so did you otherwise like the guy? | |
| I mean, you're with him for four years. | |
| Yeah, I liked him. | |
| We started going downhill when I got to college. | |
| So the ring was a bit of a last age attempt to make it work, was it? | |
| Yeah, kind of. | |
| I mean, at my college that I went to, it was very like ring by spring was the big motto thing there. | |
| So it was kind of a rush. | |
| A lot of people get married like really quickly. | |
| This is total non-secretary. | |
| Is everybody here everyone here is white? | |
| Or are you Latina? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I'm Hispanic. | |
| Okay. | |
| I am black. | |
| Oh, half. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| See, we got a little bit of diversity. | |
| I was about to say, it's like, damn, normally we have a little diversity going on. | |
| Okay, what about your relationship status? | |
| I'm currently single. | |
| All right. | |
| And how long have you been single? | |
| I've never really had a defined relationship. | |
| I've dated, but on dates, maybe the longest time I dated somebody was a month, but I never had a boyfriend. | |
| If I have it correctly, looking at my show notes here, so are you a virgin? | |
| I am, yes. | |
| Oh. | |
| Make that face again. | |
| Make that face again? | |
| That's a face she made. | |
| She's shocked. | |
| The pre-met a real virgin. | |
| The trans virgin. | |
| And you're 35, correct? | |
| I am 35. | |
| Okay, so you're five years away from being cast in the female version of the 40-year-old virgin. | |
| Yes. | |
| So is it for religious reasons or? | |
| Well, I think it's more because I just haven't found the right person I'm comfortable with. | |
| I do want to be with somebody that I'm about to be married with, but it doesn't have to be in a marriage. | |
| Just somebody I feel that I can see myself marrying. | |
| Okay. | |
| So you're not opposed to having premarital sex, but you'd want it to be the person that you foresee, like strong likelihood of this being like the person that you will marry. | |
| Correct, yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| And like, do you have a sense of would you, I mean, is there like you want to wait a year or is it just kind of wait and see how you feel with this new guy? | |
| It's more of like wait and see how I feel. | |
| I want to feel safe. | |
| I want to feel comfortable that I trust him and that we're in a good space. | |
| Okay. | |
| So you are a virgin, but you're not waiting until marriage. | |
| But if I do have this correct, the reason you are waiting or you are a virgin for like kind of religious reasons, kind of? | |
| Because you're Christian, right? | |
| I am Christian, yes. | |
| Yes. | |
| I know. | |
| I really don't know how to answer that question honestly but it was initially because I wanted to wait until marriage but reality dating and whatnot has um kind of yeah it does make sense You're a virgin, so initially those convictions were because of the religious aspect, but now you're feeling like it doesn't necessarily have to be until you get married per se. | |
| Right. | |
| If you found somebody you're making. | |
| It needs to be at least close enough to marriage because I do want to save myself for that person. | |
| I'm giving a gift to him, and I want him to respect that. | |
| Makes sense. | |
| Makes sense. | |
| Is it quite jarring when you go, like for the guy when you go on a date with someone and you tell them that if you do tell them that on a date? | |
| Yeah. | |
| There's been some interesting experiences where I've told someone. | |
| Do you find that it's a positive reaction? | |
| No. | |
| Oh, really? | |
| No. | |
| It's been very negative, yes. | |
| I'm surprised by that. | |
| I know. | |
| I've had multiple arguments with guys about this, actually. | |
| I wish you had have been fucked by someone else before. | |
| I wish someone else would have fucked my life. | |
| Someone was saying I put sex as a standard. | |
| Like, I put it on a pedestal. | |
| And I was like, I don't see it that way at all. | |
| I honestly, not that at all. | |
| The complete opposite. | |
| I put communication and values above that. | |
| And then afterwards, possibly sex compatibility. | |
| But when I was arguing with this guy, he says, well, you're putting it on a pedestal and you're admiring sex more than that. | |
| That's where it should be. | |
| So you said the longest period of time, though, that you've dated a guy is one month. | |
| How long ago was that? | |
| That was two years ago. | |
| And when you say you dated him for one month, like how many actual times? | |
| We went on five dates over the course of a month, yeah. | |
| Was he also a Christian? | |
| No, he was not. | |
| Would you, are you wanting to date a man who's a virgin or that you don't really care? | |
| No, I don't. | |
| That doesn't matter to me, no. | |
| Okay. | |
| I just want him to respect my wishes. | |
| An atheist? | |
| I have dated an atheist or have been on dates with an atheist. | |
| Could you see yourself with an atheist? | |
| No, not really. | |
| I think they would lead to too many arguments. | |
| And I value my relationship with God more than actually being in a relationship. | |
| You said the longest consecutive period of time you've dated somebody was one month and that person was an atheist, correct? | |
| No, he was not an aged. | |
| No, he was not an agent. | |
| No, he was agnostic. | |
| Oh, well. | |
| I mean, it's not too far away from each other, but I mean, why bother if, I mean, it seems like you have pretty set values in terms of what you're looking for. | |
| I mean, why waste your time? | |
| I mean, the longest period of time that you have dated somebody was an agnostic. | |
| I mean, I'm just a little confused there. | |
| No, wait, repeat the question, Brian. | |
| Well. | |
| You're on dating. | |
| Are you on any dating apps at all? | |
| Have you ever been? | |
| Yes, I have. | |
| I just, I do not like the dating apps at all. | |
| Well, so you're 35, right? | |
| And I guess to be 35 and to have never even had a long-term relationship, I'm curious as to why. | |
| Are men not approaching you? | |
| Are men not interested? | |
| Could it potentially be perhaps your standards are unreasonable? | |
| What's your assessment of your situation? | |
| I think there's a lot that goes into it for me. | |
| It's just not one particular answer. | |
| I know I need to work on things myself. | |
| I know there's things that I have done wrong that probably have led me to being in this stage. | |
| I admit that. | |
| More so not putting myself out there, not going out and, you know, to bars or whatever to meet people. | |
| I mean, I've seen a man and I have not approached them when I should have. | |
| I could have put myself in a good situation where I could have met someone that way. | |
| I think standards too. | |
| I don't know the difference, though, between standards and being shallow. | |
| That's the thing I struggle with because I don't know if my standards are too high or am I shallow. | |
| So what are those? | |
| Why don't we get into that? | |
| What are those? | |
| The standards? | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, is that your own self-assessment of yourself? | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| I mean, that you have high standards or that you're shallow or both. | |
| Or you're unsure. | |
| People tell me I'm shallow, and I always question that. | |
| I was like, why am I shallow if I have these certain standards? | |
| But I feel like these two are interchanged between having high standards and being shallow. | |
| And like, which one is it? | |
| What are the standards? | |
| Yeah, what are the standards? | |
| What are the key standards? | |
| My standards is at least they need to be open to the relationship with God. | |
| I do not like the idea of them having multiple body counts with women of strong family values. | |
| So you expect a man who is how old? | |
| The youngest I would date somebody is probably 30. | |
| When you say body count, do you mean like how high? | |
| Oh, because by the time a guy's, if a guy's single and 30 and like single, single, hasn't been divorced or whatever, then he's probably going to wreck up a bit of a notch count. | |
| That's a deal breaker. | |
| If he has a high body count, absolutely, because I just don't think he's valuing relationships. | |
| What about if he has a high body count, but he's come to faith later in life? | |
| That would be different. | |
| Then I would definitely. | |
| What's the cutoff? | |
| What's the cutoff for body count for a guy? | |
| Oh, man. | |
| I haven't really thought about that. | |
| But I'm a little, I mean, I would like to perhaps get a little further in here because you said people have accused you, or perhaps your own self-assessment, is that your standards, your standards are too high or that you're shallow. | |
| But you kind of have prefaced, and I don't know if you got there yet. | |
| You've said you want them to have a relationship with God and have good family values and not be promiscuous. | |
| It's not clear to me if any of those so far are shallow. | |
| So can you state the standards you have which you consider to be shallow? | |
| Okay. | |
| I like them to be a little taller than me. | |
| I'm 5'4. | |
| So anybody taller than 5'4 on me is great. | |
| Okay, so what minimum height for the guy? | |
| 5'6. | |
| I think that's pretty fair. | |
| That's pretty reasonable. | |
| What else? | |
| I don't want a gym bro. | |
| I do want somebody that is kind of active. | |
| Yeah, or dad-bought. | |
| Dad-bot. | |
| I like the dad-bod look, but not overweight. | |
| I do like them to have a clean look as much as like a not a big beard or long hair. | |
| Okay, we're getting into the weeds now. | |
| Wait, okay, so clean, we'll say clean-cut. | |
| You don't want, what if he's just like physically fit? | |
| I'm sure you're fine with that, right? | |
| That's fine. | |
| When you say gym bro, you don't want someone who's too self-obsessed is what you're saying. | |
| Right. | |
| Their life is not the gem. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Huh. | |
| Okay. | |
| Anything else? | |
| Well, I wish I could show you like on the dating apps what I've shown my girlfriends when I'm swiping. | |
| Are your girlfriends religious? | |
| Sounds like they're atheists. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Wait, continue with your point. | |
| Show us on the dating apps well. | |
| When I've been on the dating apps and I've shown my friends the guys I've been preferencing, it's always constantly I'm just swiping that left and they're like, well, what about this guy? | |
| What about this guy? | |
| And I'm like, that's interesting. | |
| That would actually be a really interesting segment on the show where we like pull up just a blank dating app and like we have the girls, okay, you're going to swipe through 20 guys and we're going to see like just based on looks. | |
| That's actually really fun. | |
| That'd be really fun. | |
| That would be fun and like okay. | |
| Which guy do you just based on like looks or whatever their profile? | |
| That would help guys choose. | |
| That's actually really fun. | |
| Yo, somebody's going to jack that one. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Wait, how do I write this down? | |
| Hold on. | |
| Yeah, Nick's got to go. | |
| Wait, like dating app swiping on dudes. | |
| I honestly think it would be super men's dating apps. | |
| That's a good way to do it. | |
| It would be super beneficial, I think, for the men, too, to see what women are looking for. | |
| Because I've always thought like, oh, if I had my own business, I would definitely like help men on their dating apps to show them, like, okay, here's what they need to do. | |
| I feel like dating apps can be pretty useless for a man, though. | |
| They're rough. | |
| The standards on a dating app compared to real life are just so warped. | |
| Girls are so picky. | |
| They did some studies showing what girls are looking for and what guys are looking for. | |
| And the women got a list of about 300 things. | |
| It was a big cross-section. | |
| And the guys had three things. | |
| They wanted them to be sweet. | |
| They wanted to be kind. | |
| They wanted to be attractive. | |
| And the women had a list of about 300. | |
| I do not have less than 300. | |
| No. | |
| Because guys just go on there for sex. | |
| Girls go on there to find their husband, which they're not. | |
| I don't think girls go to sexual. | |
| There's some strumpets. | |
| You could criticize guys for the way that they go on dating apps to just have sex, but most girls just go on there just for attention. | |
| Just for a bit of dopamine. | |
| That's true. | |
| They'll just swipe and see, see, oh, he likes me, he likes me, he likes me, he likes me. | |
| Yeah, also for a lot of men, you can say that they just want a peaceful girl. | |
| They have less criteria for what they're looking for. | |
| So they're more open to what the physical body image is or what her work profession is. | |
| They don't care as much as women have a stance on. | |
| No, I have a lot of guy friends and they show me their dating apps. | |
| Like, oh, she's fat. | |
| Nope. | |
| Oh, she, nope. | |
| That's what they think. | |
| Bro, you're on knots in Miami. | |
| Yeah, that's different. | |
| You're like, your social circle is so warped. | |
| No offense. | |
| And the data is very clear on this. | |
| They've done lots of studies on dating apps and they show how much men are swiping around compared to women. | |
| And it's so warped. | |
| It's ridiculously. | |
| Men want to have sex with anything. | |
| Well, I mean, if you're criticizing men, you then have to level the same criticism that women forget about it. | |
| Women think that they're going to find their prince charming on their own. | |
| So you think that women are there in a little fluttery dress? | |
| Like, oh, I'm going to find my Prince Charming. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's what they're doing on dating apps. | |
| Yes. | |
| They're basically going on. | |
| They're like, I want to find my husband. | |
| I'm going to get married. | |
| Oh, my gosh. | |
| I want somebody to come save me from this. | |
| Yes. | |
| That's why my friends are going to be able to do that. | |
| So you think they're sitting there in their bedroom, little damsel in distress? | |
| Yeah, they're like, oh, my gosh, someone come save me. | |
| I don't want to work anymore. | |
| Or are they dating like five guys at the same time? | |
| They should be if that's what they want. | |
| Anyways, wait, so okay, going back to you really quick, are there any other things that you've been accused of when it comes to being shallow? | |
| What's a common ick that you have that your friends are like, come on? | |
| This ick is like the hat backwards or like he has a fish in the photo. | |
| What is it? | |
| You got something. | |
| Yeah, because you sound very easygoing. | |
| That's what I thought too, but I don't know. | |
| There's got to be something. | |
| There's got to be something. | |
| Well, I hate when they're in the gym and they're posting their photo. | |
| Jimmy gets them here. | |
| Yes. | |
| The one thing I also don't like is when there's multiple guys in one picture and you can't figure out who's who and you're scrolling through. | |
| I honestly just think guys just take terrible photos of themselves in general. | |
| Can you ask me how many dates you've gone on this year? | |
| None. | |
| I mean, I've tried. | |
| That's your problem, though. | |
| You're too picky. | |
| You need to go on dates and get to know people. | |
| Because if you never put yourself out there and meet people, like you might find a guy that's super cringe online, but he just doesn't know how to present himself. | |
| Guys are retarded like that. | |
| The hard part about that though is you're putting so much energy into these apps and it takes a lot of time to start doing that talking stage. | |
| And if you're not attracted to that person you see on a photo. | |
| I literally see the girls make no effort on those apps. | |
| They'll just say hi. | |
| My brother once showed me a girl who just said H. | |
| She didn't even say HI. | |
| Just the letter H. | |
| She couldn't even be bothered. | |
| The I in there. | |
| I had a guy who messaged me. | |
| The first message was like, yo, come over. | |
| So I don't know. | |
| There are guys that do that. | |
| How do you normally open up on a dating app? | |
| Because if you're on Bumble, for example, and it's you who's got to go first, what do you normally say? | |
| If they have a good opener, like a question, I usually answer the opener. | |
| Or if it's more along the lines of, hey, how's your date going? | |
| Or hi, it's nice to meet you. | |
| You know, that's how I usually start it. | |
| But if they do have an opener, that's great. | |
| That way I can segue into that. | |
| If you want to do that, though, you should have your formula and just lay it down from the start and be like, listen, I like to go on a date first, whatever. | |
| If they want to take you on a date, go on the date. | |
| See if you like them. | |
| If you don't like them, free dinner. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, I wish, like, there seems to be months or weeks and weeks of always texting and texting back and forth, back and forth. | |
| And I really would like the guy to initiate Halo. | |
| You have to do it sometimes. | |
| Yeah, I was going to say, you can't have a kid. | |
| Then I'm like, no, they can't do it then. | |
| No. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Sounds like you overthink this shit a lot. | |
| You need to get yourself onto the date and do it regularly. | |
| It also sounds like you put a lot of pressure on a single date, but you might, if you do put so much pressure on a single date, you're going to be a lot more selective if you're only going on one every four months. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You know? | |
| It's hard. | |
| I mean, I agree. | |
| There's a lot of things I could work on, and I appreciate your guys' input on it. | |
| It's just hard with my job. | |
| It's exhausting to go on dates, so I know I need to work on it better. | |
| Yeah, I'm a nurse, so it's just, it's hard. | |
| A travel nurse? | |
| No. | |
| Okay. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| No red flag. | |
| It's still kind of a red flag. | |
| No, I work in oncology. | |
| Okay. | |
| Let me ask you a question, though. | |
| Like, so. | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, you said you're not necessarily waiting for marriage. | |
| Like, you'll have sex before marriage, but it's got to be like the right guy, right? | |
| What if it's just like, what if you hit 45 and it's just like still not happening? | |
| Are you just going to like be like, fuck it, I'm just going for it. | |
| I want to lose my virginity? | |
| Is there any scenario where you're just like, you die a virgin? | |
| All right, boys. | |
| You know, I don't find a guy. | |
| It's not the thing that's going to fulfill me in life. | |
| But just like as a bucket list thing, let's say you're like 62 and you're still a virgin. | |
| Are you just going to like send it and just be like, all right, I'm going to like fuck this guy in the retirement. | |
| Oh, no. | |
| No. | |
| I think if I can't find somebody, then I will probably die a virgin. | |
| And I'm okay with that. | |
| What do you think? | |
| You said it won't fulfill you in life. | |
| What do you think will fulfill you in life? | |
| I'm sorry, repeat the question. | |
| Do you think will fulfill you in life? | |
| Honestly, my relationship with God. | |
| I'm a Christian, and I think when you think about the world, though, and I understand that having a relationship with God is very important, but also we're put in this world and we're told to go forth and multiply. | |
| Do you think that there is something that you profoundly lose if you don't have a family and children? | |
| No, I mean, if that's what God had intended for me specifically, then I have to accept that and be okay with it. | |
| I think a lot of women my age are coming to that point where they want to be, they're not in relationships, and it's hard for them to get into relationships, so they have to figure out a way to be content in life. | |
| So you see a lot of girls trying to be happy being single because what else are you going to do? | |
| Be miserable at home? | |
| Certainly better to have God than to not have God because if you don't have God, you've got boxed wine and cats and a vibrator. | |
| Well, and I think the problem, though, is we use relationships to fulfill this emptiness inside of us, and that's where we get in problems when it comes to marriage and whatnot and why there's a fail in marriage society. | |
| But I do think that there is something to that, though. | |
| If you don't have a relationship at some point in your life, I do think that there is something that's missing from within you. | |
| I don't think we're meant to be alone. | |
| No, we're not going to be alone, but we are meant to be in one with God. | |
| You know, we were meant to be in this world with God. | |
| And I think when people do not have God in their lives, they try to fill that empty hole. | |
| And they use relationships as their faith. | |
| They use relationships and you can have the both, though. | |
| You can have the both, but as long as you don't make the relationship your whole world. | |
| And you have, yeah. | |
| I understand what you're saying. | |
| I understand what you're saying. | |
| It's definitely better to have God than to not have God. | |
| Yes. | |
| That's for sure. | |
| Yeah. | |
| All right. | |
| What's your relationship status? | |
| I am single. | |
| My longest relationship was three and a half almost four years. | |
| Wait, can I have you just tilt the mic down a bit? | |
| Is that better? | |
| Perfect. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Okay. | |
| So yeah, my longest relationship was like three and a half, four years. | |
| Single for how long? | |
| It's kind of messy. | |
| So my last relationship, we kind of like trying to go back to it and then not. | |
| And then no, I think I'm done. | |
| Which is a big thing to say. | |
| Wait, so it's been on again off again? | |
| Yeah, we try. | |
| We were friends first and then we dated on and off for about three years. | |
| And it was an amicable breakup, which is difficult because you still care for the person and you still have love for the person. | |
| And then it's just finding. | |
| If I recall correctly, you've done these experiments where you try to go on 50 dates in 50 days. | |
| Well, that's when I first started dating. | |
| Yes. | |
| Have you done that recently? | |
| I haven't been on any of those. | |
| After I excoriated? | |
| Did I say that right? | |
| Excoriated? | |
| I've never heard that. | |
| Or is it excoriated? | |
| Excoriated. | |
| Excoriated. | |
| To denounce or berate severely. | |
| Flay verbally. | |
| I don't know if I berated you severely. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Some of the comments said you berated me severely, which I think is. | |
| It was a strong denouncement. | |
| A strong denouncement, not a severe beration. | |
| I think that's an excoriation. | |
| It was an excoriation. | |
| Yeah. | |
| No, I haven't done that since I flayed verbally. | |
| I would be open to it again. | |
| I'm just not in that place. | |
| I think, so I started dating. | |
| Don't do it. | |
| Things are wrong. | |
| I started dating. | |
| I went on my first date when I was about 18 or 19. | |
| And my upbringing was very different than the average person. | |
| I was homeschooled for most of my life. | |
| I graduated high school at 16. | |
| I was in college by 16. | |
| So I was around people that were significantly older. | |
| And legally, I was not going to date anyone for that matter. | |
| And one of my friends called me a prude when I hit 18. | |
| And she goes, you don't date anybody. | |
| And I was just very driven, very focused. | |
| I'm the first in my family to go to college. | |
| And I said, well, screw that. | |
| I said, I'll show you how I can be. | |
| And I was like, I'm going to go on 50 dates in 50 days with 50 different guys. | |
| And we're going to see how this study goes. | |
| Always been research-based. | |
| My first serious relationship was date 14. | |
| It was someone that I met and I really connected with. | |
| And I applaud you for if you don't find someone that's worth your time, you don't waste your time. | |
| I will also say that you need to put yourself out there, and that takes a physical effort. | |
| And you need to do the work in that sense. | |
| And that's it's hard. | |
| So that's why I did the 50 dates. | |
| My ex was date 14. | |
| We were together for almost four years. | |
| I caught him cheating with his soon with his best friend, or no, sorry, his marine buddy's soon-to-be ex-wife, who was leaving her husband because she caught him cheating. | |
| So she was becoming the other woman in my situation. | |
| Left him for that. | |
| They ended up having a baby together. | |
| Moved on to the next. | |
| I dated. | |
| I was like, well, I never finished 50 dates, so I'm going to continue it. | |
| I met my next partner on date nine. | |
| We were together for a year. | |
| He got deported back to Norway. | |
| That's how that went. | |
| And then I said, I'm going to go on 12 dates after that. | |
| So I'm a project manager. | |
| I'm efficient with my time. | |
| I think if you meet someone and you're really trying to connect with someone, you can make the effort. | |
| I do think girls sometimes have unrealistic standards for someone. | |
| I don't think you should give up your minimum criteria, but there are definitely a lot of amazing men out there that a lot of women overlook. | |
| And being someone that works in tech, I work with a lot of the nice guys that a lot of women overlook. | |
| And I see their dating apps and I see what they go through. | |
| Why do you overlook them? | |
| I don't. | |
| I just have Christian backgrounds, and most of them don't. | |
| So I recognize culture. | |
| Culture is part of it. | |
| Is that Christian? | |
| Wait, where are the nice guys? | |
| No, no, no, where I work. | |
| Like the people who are in the world. | |
| You're up there like the Bay? | |
| Yeah, I'm in the Bay. | |
| Like Tech Bros. | |
| Yeah, it's Tech Bros. | |
| Wait, like the Bay. | |
| So, wait, are you in SF or San Francisco? | |
| I'm in Silicon Valley. | |
| Silicon Valley. | |
| Okay. | |
| So I'm open to it. | |
| I mean, I have my preferences, but I also, admittedly, can be swaved kind of easily if someone can catch my attention. | |
| I know what you're talking about because I lived in Santa Clara. | |
| Yeah, so you know, you're right down the street. | |
| I definitely knew what was going on up there. | |
| So I totally agree. | |
| The dating scene up there is very, very hard. | |
| Yeah. | |
| All right, Jake. | |
| What about you? | |
| I'm single. | |
| Been single for a long time. | |
| DMs are open for the reviews. | |
| I travel a lot, so I don't have time to really date too much. | |
| So yeah, just grinding at the moment. | |
| And maybe one day we'll see how it goes. | |
| Rock and roll. | |
| Longest relationship you've ever been in? | |
| Two years. | |
| Two years. | |
| All right, rock and roll. | |
| Guys, we're going to do a segment called Dating App Review. | |
| So three of the girls here at the table, we're going to be reviewing their dating app profiles. | |
| We're going to have you, the viewers, weigh in. | |
| Let us know what you think. | |
| Would you swipe yes? | |
| Would you swipe no? | |
| Nick, if you're able to pull up the first one, we're going to get that going. | |
| We have Jess here. | |
| She's got her pronouns in the bio, just so you know, she's a woman. | |
| She, her. | |
| She says she yaps too much. | |
| Now, gentlemen, would that be an issue for you that she yaps too much? | |
| She also is into cats and tattoos. | |
| Next, you think that band and City Morgue should make an album together? | |
| No idea. | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| Who the fuck is that guy? | |
| Okay, no idea who those are. | |
| Cool. | |
| Next, you quote too much from Big Bang Theory. | |
| That's sweet. | |
| Next. | |
| Oh, it's the next person. | |
| Okay, well, hold on. | |
| We'll do Jess first. | |
| All right, boys. | |
| You see her on Bumble. | |
| Do you swipe yes or do you swipe no? | |
| Swipe yes? | |
| Swipe no in the chat. | |
| Yo, shout out to Rachel Wilson in the chat. | |
| Oh, we got strolls out for facts donated $200. | |
| Brie deteriorates when the convo isn't on her for more than 30 seconds. | |
| The girl in the corner is my sister. | |
| She says it's toxic to ask someone on a date what they bring to the table in a relationship. | |
| Did we actually pay for that? | |
| Wait, who's someone's brother? | |
| That is my brother. | |
| Can he change his username to something not T-O-S? | |
| I should probably block that word out. | |
| He seems based. | |
| He would be so happy that you just said that. | |
| Do you want to respond to that, Brie? | |
| That was directed to you. | |
| I zoned out the whole thing. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I just wanted to say one thing: 50 dates and none of them worked? | |
| Well, no, I mean, so date 14 was someone that lasted for almost four years. | |
| But it didn't work because he cheated or he loved you. | |
| Yeah, but it was a relationship that lasts for several years. | |
| So it wasn't like it was random. | |
| It's just you kind of go through it. | |
| So he was date 14 and then I dated someone else. | |
| They had to go back home. | |
| Split up, Nick. | |
| 50 dates. | |
| If she was 50, is the whole thing. | |
| If she was a part of your school, what advice would you give to her? | |
| Oh my gosh, I have so much advice for both of them. | |
| Please give it to them. | |
| Girl in pink, you need to go outside. | |
| You don't need to go on dating apps. | |
| That's not going to work. | |
| And keep your standards where they're at because your standards are like the most basic. | |
| Like have a relationship with God, be a family man. | |
| That's like the most basic shit ever. | |
| You're not asking them to be seven foot tall. | |
| And you, like, I feel like you need to up your standards a little bit because you're talking about, no, but sometimes guys, but no, stop. | |
| We need to put men back up there. | |
| So up your standards because after 50 guys, you should have been married with kids by now. | |
| If that's what you wanted to do. | |
| So you think that the fact that she didn't like the 50 guys means she has to up her standards? | |
| If you had 50 guys and none of them worked, it must be because you picked it up. | |
| Because your standards are too low. | |
| You pick pretty shitty 50 guys. | |
| Gotcha. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So. | |
| Do you want to respond? | |
| You guys can respond. | |
| I was going to say, the people that I've dated, I'm 28 now. | |
| I've been in relationships since I was 19. | |
| So this is the longest I've ever been single and it's about six months, to be honest. | |
| So I've been in great relationships, and I think that it's one of those things that you have to be realistic about what you want. | |
| I think I've done the work of knowing what makes a healthy relationship. | |
| I've done the work of seeing what, longitudinally speaking from research, what makes a good relationship for people, what makes them happy, what makes them feel fulfilled in a relationship. | |
| And I don't compromise on those standards, which is why most of my friends would say I am picky for what I have. | |
| And I have no problem with that. | |
| I have no problem saying that. | |
| Like I said, height, I have a preference. | |
| It's not the end of the world to me at the end of the day. | |
| But there are certain things like morals, character, and value that I hold very strong to my beliefs that I'm not willing to negotiate because I do want to be a mom and I do want to raise my kids in a certain way. | |
| And I will not apologize for that. | |
| Yeah, but you're 28, you want to be a mom. | |
| Your time is running out. | |
| You need to pick 50 better guys. | |
| Who says I haven't picked them? | |
| Who says I haven't had options, but I just said no because I know just because someone comes around, I'm not desperate enough to settle for that person. | |
| Your standards. | |
| I have my standards. | |
| That's not a problem. | |
| This is the most retarded conversation. | |
| No. | |
| No, if you don't. | |
| Try to avoid that. | |
| Sorry. | |
| This is the most silly conversation. | |
| If you know the world, that's okay. | |
| And you choose the right men after. | |
| So here's a question. | |
| I would love to ask you this question. | |
| What do you think is upping my standards and where should I improve? | |
| Like, I feel like you should choose men. | |
| Like, why haven't they worked out 50 guys? | |
| I don't even know 50 guys. | |
| Like, why didn't it work out? | |
| So, a majority of people don't have religious values. | |
| Majority of people don't want to raise their children that way. | |
| Four number one key indicators for a relationship are money finances. | |
| If you agree on finances, your in-laws, children, whether or not how you want to raise them, and upbringing for that piece. | |
| So it's one of those things. | |
| Like, if I don't find someone, that meets those things. | |
| I don't care what someone does for work. | |
| I don't mind if someone's a workaholic. | |
| I used to work an obscene amount of hours a week. | |
| That's fine for me. | |
| Those things I'm fine with, but finding someone that I think is going to make a great father and someone that I, if I have a son, I want them to be like that. | |
| That is a very hard thing to find. | |
| I have a lot of male friends. | |
| I have a lot of people that I think are great guys. | |
| I always look at it as if I had a son and they turned out just like these people, would I be proud of them? | |
| And if the answer is no, I'm not going to waste my time. | |
| And that's perfectly fine. | |
| I would rather be selective in that piece. | |
| What else do you have to say, Bri? | |
| You got more for her? | |
| But you picked 50, so 14, 14, 9, and then 12. | |
| So 14, date 14 was great. | |
| I had dates after that. | |
| I canceled them because I thought this person was someone that I could marry and I stayed with them for several years. | |
| Turns out they weren't the person. | |
| So sorry. | |
| I'll hold it up. | |
| It's a good arm workout. | |
| Date 14 was great. | |
| Almost four years, I thought this was a person. | |
| I thought I was a great person I would be proud if my children became like this person. | |
| Turned out that wasn't the case. | |
| That's perfectly fine. | |
| Not everyone's ready for that. | |
| Date nine was someone I really admired and respected. | |
| He is not from this country and he had to leave. | |
| That's perfectly fine. | |
| After that, last date, last person I've been dating for the past three, three and a half years, I love him as a person. | |
| I think he's a wonderful man. | |
| Him and I want to raise children differently and we're able to actually have an adult conversation and say, hey, we agree on a majority of things. | |
| He is someone that didn't even know if he ever wanted children. | |
| And he goes, I know how you want to raise children and I respect that. | |
| And I don't want your children. | |
| The poet donated $200. | |
| Yeah, thank you, man. | |
| Allie Thomas, Brian, and Jessica are the F. King bombs total babes and wife material. | |
| Clem Sonellum lived in both Dallas and SF, now live in both LA and Lake Como, Italy. | |
| Accepting BF applications? | |
| Thank you. | |
| No, not right now. | |
| Are you guys? | |
| That's for Alexa. | |
| I love a poet. | |
| Jessica. | |
| I've been through it. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I might be accepting boyfriend applications. | |
| All right. | |
| Thomas the poet, I guess you can shoot your shot. | |
| Wait, so Bri, is your criticism here that like going on a date every single day is too much? | |
| Is that kind of your criticism for Alexa? | |
| Well, if you were able to find so many guys, why did you pick, like, you must have been picking wrong if you found so many guys, went on dates with them, and it still didn't work. | |
| Because technically, I only picked three. | |
| So if you're going based off of numbers. | |
| No, but you said you went on date 14, date nine, and date 10. | |
| She had long relationships with them. | |
| They worked. | |
| Yeah. | |
| They just didn't ultimately work out. | |
| But for date 14, you went on 14 dates, right? | |
| Yes. | |
| 13 dates. | |
| 13 dates. | |
| That's a lot. | |
| You should have. | |
| No, it's one of those things. | |
| You're going, you're meeting people. | |
| You're trying to get to know them. | |
| You're trying to be very honest and realistic about what your approach is and what you're looking for in life. | |
| And if we didn't, I can go on a date with someone, and if we, I can think they're an amazing person and they're a great catch, but we want different values in life. | |
| I don't think either of us should have to compromise on that. | |
| So I can say, hey, we're not meant to be. | |
| I wish you the best. | |
| Good luck finding the person that is going to be, live the lifestyle that you want. | |
| But you want to be a mom and you're 28. | |
| So you're like running out of time. | |
| Am I? | |
| How many years do I have left? | |
| You have like six years left. | |
| Great. | |
| I went on 50 dates in 50 days. | |
| I got a lot of time if it's six years. | |
| So you're going to do another 50 dates? | |
| No, now I'm more selective and I'm actually seeing someone who wants to. | |
| Oh, sorry, go ahead. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Oh, so now you're more selective. | |
| So you agree with what I said that. | |
| Well, no, I went on 50 dates because I was told that I was too picky. | |
| So in that situation, it was something that I said, okay, if I'm going to go on 50 dates in 50 days with 50 different guys, I'm not going to compromise the fact that people need to have a decent profile in the sense of like, if you're showing your ass or showing you're with a bunch of girls and getting drunk, I don't want to date someone like that. | |
| I'm going to pass on you anyway. | |
| But if it's someone that I think is looking for a serious relationship and say, hey, maybe physically they're not, like my first longest relationship is not someone I would naturally consider my type. | |
| So you did all of this and still single? | |
| Yeah, but I would consider it successful. | |
| I'm 28 and I'm just recent. | |
| This is the longest I've ever been single for six months. | |
| I've been in relationships this entire time. | |
| But if getting married and having kids is your goal, like I said, you're kind of running out of time. | |
| It's better than showing your butt on the internet. | |
| Well, I was wearing out of time. | |
| I'm in the grave right now. | |
| You can have children past 40 and be okay. | |
| No, high-risk pregnancy after 35. | |
| And I was always a drinker. | |
| And that is true. | |
| And I'm not going to dispute that. | |
| I think that is a very realistic thing. | |
| I don't waste my time. | |
| I don't do one-night stands. | |
| I don't waste my time with men like that. | |
| And I have no problem with that. | |
| But you don't do one-night stands, but you went on 50 dates. | |
| Yeah, I'm not going to sleep with these people. | |
| You didn't sleep with any of them? | |
| You didn't sleep with anyone? | |
| The one I ended up dating for four years. | |
| Okay. | |
| I can count all my body. | |
| I have my body count on one hand. | |
| What about you? | |
| Well, I just recently stopped being a body kid. | |
| You don't count. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| I just recently stopped being a virgin. | |
| I'm just saying, you can actually go on these dates. | |
| I'm not sleeping with these people. | |
| I can have a conversation the way I'm having a lot of time. | |
| Did you tell the other guys? | |
| Did you tell 10, 11, 12, and 13 that you'd be on 10 other, none other dates? | |
| No, the same way I wouldn't ask them if they went on to date right before me. | |
| Wait, so that would be John Alamba. | |
| Three, is your criticism here like the clock is ticking, kind of? | |
| Is that? | |
| Yeah, I don't want you to get defensive and like all mad and stuff and not like I'm telling you like but like real shit. | |
| You like need to get to it if you want to have kids. | |
| And I am looking and I'm looking genuinely for someone that I think I can have a long-term relationship with the same way I've done it with the past three relationships. | |
| I don't consider that like the fact someone cheated on me and did that that that was his business. | |
| That's not mine. | |
| And I can actually say for someone. | |
| Why'd he cheat? | |
| Because he wasn't happy with himself when he lost his job and he started getting validation from other women. | |
| Oh. | |
| And what he didn't realize was he was with someone that actually really loved him and respected him and was willing to see the potential in him even when he wasn't doing his best. | |
| I liked him for the man that he was and he has never been told that he was a good man prior to me. | |
| And I recognize that. | |
| And when you are dating someone and you date someone that has a heart, he was former military. | |
| He did two tours to Afghanistan. | |
| I dealt with shit. | |
| I will tell you that in a relationship and I loved him through all of that. | |
| And he was someone that wasn't willing to admit or go through it with someone else. | |
| And I even had family members of his say, hey, you know what? | |
| He might not be a good guy. | |
| And I said, that is something I take into consideration and I'm going to be honest. | |
| And like I said, the way I date is I say, if this is someone that I can date seriously and if I had a son who was like him and I can be proud of him, I will stay in their relationship. | |
| I got to the point where I said, I'm afraid if I had a son just like him, I would be afraid of my son. | |
| So I said, I need to leave. | |
| And the fact that I happened to catch him cheating at the same time, I had a suspicion. | |
| Every woman, every woman feels it at some point. | |
| And you think you go crazy when you feel it. | |
| And I even told him the week prior to catching him cheating, I said, if there's someone else, if you want to be in a different relationship, that's totally fine. | |
| Tell me now, because I was 24 at the time and I said, you're not going to take my best years. | |
| I was like, real talk, I'm going to give you three years. | |
| And if there's not a certain rock on a certain finger, I'm going to walk out. | |
| Not because I don't think you're a great guy, but because I'm not going to commit to someone who's not willing to commit to me, especially, I agree. | |
| When you're younger, this is your prime. | |
| Make the most of it. | |
| Don't fuck it up. | |
| Yeah, I was going to say he kind of took your best years because you're like 24. | |
| I was 24. | |
| I went to the next relationship. | |
| 24 is still young. | |
| I went to the next relationship. | |
| It was a great relationship. | |
| He got deported. | |
| I can't control immigration. | |
| That's not in my business. | |
| Do you want to get married as well from what? | |
| Do you want to have kids? | |
| Oh, but you do not. | |
| You don't? | |
| No. | |
| It's not in the plans at all. | |
| Do you think that that's because you're young and the things that you're doing at the moment aren't well besides like the whole three husbands saying like I just don't want a relationship. | |
| I don't believe in monogamy either. | |
| What do you want to do with your life? | |
| What looks good for you in 20 years time when you're sitting there 43 years old or however old you'll be? | |
| Where do you hope to be? | |
| I'm going to be helping people. | |
| Just helping people as much as I can. | |
| Can I ask you one question? | |
| I'm just curious. | |
| What makes you think you have the credentials or the knowledge and superiority to give anyone else advice? | |
| So I really don't, but I know a lot of people and also living in Miami, like you're very well connected. | |
| So you know other people that know me? | |
| I know experts and I have the resources to bring. | |
| So you don't know anything is what you're saying. | |
| I know what I know. | |
| I know my knowledge, but I can't have all the answers and that's just the truth. | |
| Nobody has all the answers. | |
| I can't sit here and say, no, I have all the answers to the dating and I'm going to save your life. | |
| So if you can bring in help. | |
| What do you know? | |
| You specifically, not your friends, not your connections. | |
| What do you know? | |
| I know that you need to find that confidence within yourself first and believe that you are truly worth it before you ever even look at anyone else. | |
| I agree. | |
| So you shouldn't be looking at someone else like, maybe they'll save me. | |
| Maybe they'll make me better. | |
| Maybe I'll be happier if I'm with them. | |
| You can't get any of that unless you do that yourself. | |
| I 100% agree. | |
| So if I went on 50 dates and I knew my worth and I knew that just because someone was interested in me that I didn't want to settle for that, what is different than what you're advising? | |
| I don't think you should have even wasted your time on those dates then. | |
| How would you know? | |
| You never met these people. | |
| Well, you're not with them now. | |
| Like, what value did they bring? | |
| It was a quick date. | |
| It was efficient. | |
| I respected their time. | |
| I didn't spend several weeks with them talking on an app. | |
| I said, hey, would you like to meet for a coffee? | |
| They said, yeah, let's go. | |
| Spend an hour of my time. | |
| If an hour of our time went really well, it was. | |
| 50 hours. | |
| Yeah, you work that in a week if it actually worked a real job. | |
| From a guy's perspective, it can be slightly red flag if they go on heaps of dates. | |
| But the fact that you're like not leading them on is a good thing. | |
| If you go on a date and you say, hey, I'm not so interested, you can deal with that for sure. | |
| If you lead them on and you're dating the same 14 guys and none of them know that you're not interested, then that's bad. | |
| But if you tell them at the end of the day, hey, enjoyed your time, not really interested, but thank you. | |
| That's fine. | |
| Yeah, but I've never seen it. | |
| It's not like he's sleeping with them all. | |
| It's a practical thing to do. | |
| First, where'd you find these guys? | |
| Dating apps. | |
| Dating apps. | |
| So you think you're going to find a high-value man on a dating app? | |
| it's a possibility i was trying to she's on raya so i guess it's better over there i guess I'm on Raya, and I could tell you now that you're not going to find a high-value manager. | |
| Why is there like a little animosity here? | |
| You know what I almost feel? | |
| Because you seem to be coming for Alexa here a little bit. | |
| I'm not. | |
| I'm just saying you asked me for my opinion. | |
| This is like a Cathy right now. | |
| But then she got a little defensive. | |
| I'm trying to say, don't get defensive. | |
| I'm not attacking you. | |
| I'm not sure if I can do it. | |
| I'm not a defensive. | |
| Bring it on. | |
| I'm happy to do that. | |
| You know what we should do? | |
| We should let the viewers decide. | |
| We're going to let the viewers decide. | |
| So, because you're kind of coming at her, you know, look, you're making, saying things about her age and stuff. | |
| I think we should let the viewers decide. | |
| We're going to do a segment called, Who Would You Rather Date? | |
| And we're going to have Brie versus Alexa. | |
| The chat hates me. | |
| They're pull up their Instagrams. | |
| You're going to pull up their Instagrams. | |
| They kick me off. | |
| I'm actually going to do it. | |
| We're going to pull up their Instagrams. | |
| And for the record, Brie, I have no animosity. | |
| It's okay if you're not going to be able to do it. | |
| Yeah, they're making this out of everywhere. | |
| That then state their case as a reason why they're not. | |
| They're making this out everywhere. | |
| I'm not trying to attack you. | |
| I'm just saying like, I have no problem with you coming for me and saying I'm 20. | |
| We're going to do this. | |
| I agree. | |
| I think it's something you do on Twitch too. | |
| I was hooking up with a different person every random day and I was trying to find love through that. | |
| Yeah, absolutely. | |
| I hope one of my friends would be like, girl, come on, let's be real. | |
| You're not in your early 20s. | |
| I didn't even do that in my early 20s, though. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Brie is your name? | |
| Is it with an E at the end? | |
| No. | |
| Or just B-R-I? | |
| B-R-I-I. | |
| Two I's? | |
| What are you crazy? | |
| B-R-I-I-E-L-L-A-S. | |
| No, I'm just going to do Bri. | |
| That's. | |
| Oh, you're just writing my name, Bri. | |
| B-R-I. | |
| B-RI. | |
| And then two X's, right? | |
| Two X's. | |
| Okay, we're going to do a poll. | |
| We're going to do a poll. | |
| They literally came in on the show last time, so I'm not going to consider this. | |
| I'm talking. | |
| No, they may like you a little bit, so there's the poll. | |
| It just came up. | |
| You kicked me off of your last time. | |
| Ooh, okay, that's pretty rough so far. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Don't pull it up yet. | |
| And then, is it on Twitch? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Let me see if it's on Twitter. | |
| Does anybody have a statement? | |
| Wait, state your case. | |
| Okay, so here's, guys, here's what we're going to do. | |
| You each have a 30-second opening statement. | |
| Guys, guys, guys, you each have a 30-second opening statement to make your case why they should date you instead of the other person. | |
| So go ahead. | |
| Go ahead, Brie. | |
| You start first. | |
| Don't date me. | |
| I'm not competing. | |
| Just pretty much. | |
| I'm going to be the first person losers on the internet. | |
| I don't care about them. | |
| I don't care. | |
| Did you just, bro, don't call them losers, bro? | |
| Okay, but I don't care about them. | |
| First off, I'll have you know, everybody, all the 10,000 people who are watching currently are all fucking GigaChad millionaires, huge penises. | |
| All of them. | |
| Well, I'm never going to say why I'm better than another woman because I honestly don't consider myself better than any other woman. | |
| Why do I do a poll on Twitch? | |
| Just answer. | |
| Do you think that some women are better than other women? | |
| I feel like some women can be more confident in themselves, but that doesn't make them. | |
| Do you think that you'd rather have a baby with a 24-year-old woman than a 34-year-old woman? | |
| Well, a 34-year-old, like, she practically can't have a baby. | |
| Do you think that implies this? | |
| Do you think that implies standards? | |
| That some things are better than other things? | |
| I don't, I personally, myself, I would not sit here and try to say why it's better to date me than date her. | |
| So you just criticized her for being 28? | |
| Okay, that's your opinion. | |
| Fair enough. | |
| But then you're implying that there's something better if they're younger. | |
| So that would be a little bit more. | |
| No, I'm not saying that if she was younger, I'm saying if you want to have a baby, you need to hurry up because you have like six years left. | |
| And I think that's a good point. | |
| But all I'm asking you is you're saying that you don't think you're better than other women. | |
| Like, what are you talking about? | |
| Okay, the Twitch poll's going up. | |
| So you have one minute to answer. | |
| Okay, okay. | |
| No, Keep going. | |
| I was just saying. | |
| No, I was just saying, you were saying that you don't think that this standard, you're saying that some women are not better than other women. | |
| Oh, I'm saying, me personally, I am not, I don't care what anyone else thinks. | |
| Why do you even get out of bed in the morning? | |
| Me personally, I am not going to sit here and be like, oh, you should date me because I am this or I do this. | |
| Like, no. | |
| Why not? | |
| Because that is the dumbest thing. | |
| I'm not going to compete with a woman like that, especially not for men. | |
| What else did you compete with women for? | |
| I don't compete for men, first of all, because, like I said, I'm not interested in getting married or having kids. | |
| So this helps. | |
| Okay, stay in your case, Alexa. | |
| Oof, okay. | |
| So, sort of along the lines of. | |
| Tilt your mic down. | |
| Sort of along the lines of what it needs to be done. | |
| Does it tighten it this way? | |
| Yeah, perfect. | |
| Other sides, Luce. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Is that good? | |
| Yeah, you're good. | |
| So, first of all, I will say I don't compete with other women. | |
| I think it's a waste of time. | |
| Because here's the thing: my mom has said, since I was raised by a single mom, and I will say, she's always said, there's always going to be someone prettier than you, smarter than you, taller than you, thinner than you. | |
| All you can work on is being the best that you can be. | |
| So if you focus on what other women are doing, you're always going to be let down. | |
| Point blank, period. | |
| That's beautiful. | |
| For me, I will say I don't come up from the most great background, and I recognize that. | |
| This is your pitch? | |
| I'm going into it. | |
| I don't know. | |
| So it's one of those things like You're a salesman? | |
| Sorry, sorry, sorry. | |
| I'm not a salesman. | |
| Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry. | |
| Woman, my bad. | |
| But it's one of those things, like, something that differentiates me from other women is I can recognize my flaws and the things that I need to work on, and I don't think I'm high-end mighty and above those things. | |
| So I have worked on those for the past several years of my life. | |
| How do you know that that separate D from other women? | |
| Because a lot of women aren't willing to admit that we're not. | |
| How did you observe that? | |
| By competing with other women? | |
| Anyways, no, by hearing from other people. | |
| And it's also working in a male doc poll that I have no problem. | |
| Private chat, pull that up and then the tab. | |
| Then we'll have the YouTube chat visible. | |
| Before we see the results of the poll, I'm going to read. | |
| I don't know what the results are, and I don't have a pitch because I'm not going to sit here and tell some people on the internet, hey, please pick me. | |
| I'm the one you want to marry, I promise. | |
| Neither of us are picking up. | |
| Wait, what? | |
| That's not the fuck further. | |
| Oh, no. | |
| Hold on, Brie. | |
| Stop. | |
| Stop, stop. | |
| Stop the woman, Prattle. | |
| Hold on. | |
| That's on me, not. | |
| Stop, Hold on. | |
| Let me read the chats. | |
| Never stop. | |
| Silence. | |
| Okay. | |
| Nickelodeon, how are you going to teach men when you can't form a coherent sentence? | |
| She just wants to find men with enough time and money to waste to lockdown. | |
| Do you want to respond to Nickelodeon? | |
| I have formed plenty of coherent sentences, just like the one I just formed one second ago. | |
| All right, cool. | |
| And then we have. | |
| Bro, why do they always want to kick me off? | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| Hold on. | |
| I'm going to pull up. | |
| Crawl Daddy here. | |
| Hey, thank you, babe. | |
| Jessica has the vibe of a girl I fall in love with right before I get drafted into World War III. | |
| And then I carry around a little picture of her in my Bible. | |
| Excuse me. | |
| That's such a like compliment I've ever received. | |
| Yeah, it's like a very interesting, unique compliment. | |
| All right, Nick, can you pull up the Twitch? | |
| And then I want the YouTube chat visible over there too. | |
| So pull up the Twitch that I sent you in the private chat. | |
| And you can just pause it. | |
| Hide the for you. | |
| Oh my god, it's fucked. | |
| Wait, there's got to be a better way to do this. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Okay, on the for you side, hide that shit on the side. | |
| Oh, okay, hide it. | |
| Yeah, just hide that. | |
| You'll have to pull it back up now. | |
| And then pull over the YouTube. | |
| Pull over the YouTube? | |
| This is going to be like inception ridiculousness. | |
| Wait, is the poll gone? | |
| Holy fuck. | |
| No, on Twitch. | |
| Did it disappear on Twitch? | |
| Sorry, guys. | |
| We're fucking amateurs over there on Twitch. | |
| All right, never mind. | |
| We're just going to have to do it based off of the YouTube one. | |
| I missed the results. | |
| Rip. | |
| Those of you watching on Twitch, I'm in the chat now. | |
| Can you just tell me who won the poll? | |
| Like, what were the numbers on the poll? | |
| Over there on. | |
| What was the results for the poll on Twitch? | |
| 86 for Alexa. | |
| What was the percent? | |
| Does it say a percentage? | |
| 86%. | |
| 86%. | |
| So Alexa won 86% to Brie. | |
| And then over there on YouTube, it looks like it's 80-20. | |
| Yeah. | |
| 80-20 in favor of Alexa. | |
| So Brie, I mean, even though you're six years younger, I mean, Alexa's edging you out here. | |
| What's going on, Brie? | |
| I never said that I was the better option over her. | |
| And when you asked me to put my pitch, I didn't put a pitch because I never said I was the better option. | |
| And they kicked me off last time, and they're saying kick Brie off, please, right now. | |
| So I'm not going to take that seriously. | |
| Brian, you don't want to quote that either. | |
| Oh, yeah, should we do their Instagrams really quickly? | |
| Because Brian, I feel like you trying to put us against each other. | |
| It's not. | |
| Bro, you were sniping at her for like 10 minutes. | |
| I wasn't sniping at her. | |
| I was saying that she needs to. | |
| Table. | |
| Was she sniping at her? | |
| There's some snopes there. | |
| There were some snipes. | |
| I was not trying to snipe at her. | |
| I was being realistic. | |
| I just say what's on my mind, honestly. | |
| I have no filter. | |
| So that's just my problem. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Let's do the Instagrams really quick. | |
| Alexa first. | |
| I'm never on Instagram. | |
| All right, there's Alexa. | |
| She's on the whatever podcast. | |
| Boom. | |
| Jesus Love, World Traveler, ex-Googler. | |
| Wait, used to work at Google? | |
| I did. | |
| Good times. | |
| Adrenaline Junkie, former Miss Teenage California 2014. | |
| 10 years ago? | |
| Okay. | |
| Recipient of three gold. | |
| Three gold presidential service awards. | |
| What? | |
| Wait, what's that? | |
| So I have. | |
| Was that George Bush? | |
| Who gave that shit to you? | |
| That was Obama. | |
| Obama? | |
| Yeah. | |
| So I have a five volunteer hours. | |
| Just kidding. | |
| Just kidding. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Good times. | |
| Scroll down a bit, Nick. | |
| Let's see some of the. | |
| All right, there she is. | |
| Okay. | |
| I don't post often. | |
| This is like the past four years all in. | |
| All right. | |
| Game of Thrones. | |
| She's on the throne. | |
| I like your Instagram. | |
| It's very wolvesy. | |
| Now, is that fucking Arian Grande with the flat? | |
| Looks like it. | |
| I got pulled in there. | |
| You're a Hungarian competition. | |
| Now we're going to see Breeze. | |
| We're pulling up Breeze and Ceram here. | |
| Oh, that's Haram. | |
| We can. | |
| Okay. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Brie, I need to actually ask you something that I brought up last show, but okay. | |
| Scroll down, Nick. | |
| Scroll down. | |
| Bro, this is Haram. | |
| Haram. | |
| T-O-S. | |
| I mean, it's on Instagram, so I assume it's fine. | |
| Brie, what is this, Brie? | |
| Okay. | |
| That's me. | |
| Brie, I gotta. | |
| Listen, be honest. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I asked you previously. | |
| Yeah. | |
| We were talking about plastic surgery. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You said you hadn't had plastic surgery. | |
| Well, I had my boobs done. | |
| And your lips, correct? | |
| I never had my lips done. | |
| I have my boobs done and my teeth done. | |
| The contouring of your face doesn't suggest that you've never had your lips done. | |
| Well, I'm sorry to tell you that. | |
| Why? | |
| Okay, we did this last time. | |
| I'm going to be honest about the things I got done because why would I lie about getting my lips done, but I'm honest about getting nice. | |
| No, you can just tell by the contouring of someone's face if their lips are natural. | |
| Well, I can tell you what I got done. | |
| I'm less interested. | |
| And my teeth. | |
| I'm less interested than the lips. | |
| I'm more interested. | |
| So I think I asked you, I think, if you had any lipo and if you had a BBL. | |
| Nope. | |
| Gave me a break. | |
| Brie, you've got a. | |
| No, never. | |
| You've got two full basketballs in there. | |
| Why not? | |
| Brie. | |
| I never got a BBL. | |
| Okay, but hold on. | |
| Just so you don't try to weasel your way around this conversation. | |
| Did you have maybe there's a different procedure that was focused on your buttocks that is not called a BBL? | |
| No. | |
| Have you had a procedure done? | |
| Have you had any enhancements? | |
| Any enhancements to the gluteus maximus region? | |
| No. | |
| Like I said, I went. | |
| It's right there on your Instagram. | |
| This thing isn't even a bad thing. | |
| But my Instagram is my ass. | |
| Don't get it possible. | |
| That's what I'm known for. | |
| No, actually, okay. | |
| So I'm going to tell you a quick little thing. | |
| I blew up on Twitter when I was 15 years old for having a fat ass. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| I know. | |
| That's gikes, bro. | |
| Yeah, I was. | |
| Yeah, I was 15 years old. | |
| I posted a picture of me in a bikini. | |
| That's how I blew up on Instagram. | |
| That's how I blew up on Twitter. | |
| That's how the following I have. | |
| Thank you for sharing. | |
| Is because I've just had a fat ass. | |
| Hold on, pull that Instagram back up. | |
| This is so capped. | |
| This is so. | |
| Click on the first photo. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Bruv, I'm sorry. | |
| Like, okay. | |
| You can see it actually protruding. | |
| Bro, Bri, come on, dude. | |
| Go, go. | |
| I have a question for you, Brian. | |
| Why would I be honest about having my boobs done and my teeth done? | |
| Other arrow. | |
| Nope. | |
| Back. | |
| Nick. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Why would I be honest about having my boobs and my teeth done, and then I would lie about having my butt done? | |
| Because more people lie about it. | |
| You got a BBL, Bri. | |
| Why are you lying? | |
| Bro, Bri, you have a BBL. | |
| Stop lying. | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| Does the girl next to you have a BBL? | |
| Yes. | |
| Amanda has probably like eight BBLs. | |
| Bro, you guys got like the exact same thing. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Next. | |
| One. | |
| Hold on. | |
| No, like. | |
| Is there one more? | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| God damn, move, fucking frat. | |
| Get the fuck out of here. | |
| God damn, bro. | |
| How long is this shit going? | |
| Okay. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Trans bubble bite. | |
| I'm sorry, bro, but it just don't look that don't look normal. | |
| Next. | |
| I think the last one. | |
| No, there's a video. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| This is where you can definitely tell. | |
| Hold up. | |
| I'd look way skinnier than that. | |
| Like, you could tell which one's fake and which one's real. | |
| Hold on. | |
| What the f? | |
| We can see it moving. | |
| Dude, that. | |
| I'm sorry, Brie. | |
| You got a BBL. | |
| Why are you lying, son? | |
| Look at two sexy potatoes. | |
| I'm not going to sit here and lie about having a BBL and then be like, what? | |
| I got my TDs and my teeth done, and I have hair extensions. | |
| Excuse us. | |
| You called yourself a virgin because you manifested it. | |
| So excuse us for not dressing you. | |
| I'm going to be honest. | |
| We need to do another poll. | |
| We're doing another poll in the far. | |
| Does she have a BBL? | |
| Is the poll. | |
| Well, if they followed me since I was 15, they would know. | |
| So you're saying no one's going to admit to following you since you were sitting on the street. | |
| My followers are watching this and they know that it's. | |
| So, Brie, just so we have it definitively, you have not had any modification besides my boobs and my teeth. | |
| My boobs. | |
| What about the lipo, though? | |
| Boobs teeth. | |
| What about the lipo? | |
| Look how skinny I am. | |
| Look at my arm. | |
| I have fat for lipo. | |
| You think I have fat for lipo? | |
| Look at my arms. | |
| What about your lip? | |
| How skinny I am. | |
| But there's something that happens to the stomach when you get lipo. | |
| Like it comes. | |
| You get skinny. | |
| It just tightens your belly button. | |
| It's right here in the pocket. | |
| My belly button looks normal. | |
| Look at my belly button. | |
| Dude, I'm not. | |
| You might have lipo belly, Brie. | |
| I don't have lipo belly because I never had lipo. | |
| Okay. | |
| I am so skinny, and I've been so skinny my whole life. | |
| There is no way I could possibly get lipo. | |
| Like, no way. | |
| There's no fat to get. | |
| Look at my stomach. | |
| There's no fat to get out of my stomach. | |
| That is how skinny I am. | |
| It's just. | |
| Like, even if I wanted a BBL, I'm getting a BBL. | |
| I'm not 100% certain on the B, excuse me, on the lipo. | |
| I'm not 100% certain on the lipo. | |
| There are some signs of it. | |
| I don't know. | |
| But come on. | |
| You gotta fess up. | |
| You gotta consider it. | |
| I weigh 110 pounds. | |
| Okay, moving on from the lipo. | |
| I'm not 100% on the lipo. | |
| I'm 110 pounds. | |
| I can't. | |
| You've had something for the booty. | |
| I don't know if it's implants. | |
| I don't know if it's BBL. | |
| I've never gotten implanted. | |
| Why you lie? | |
| I never got BBL because I'm too skinny for a BBL. | |
| I've been 110 pounds since I was like 12 years old. | |
| You're a fucking liar. | |
| You're a fucking liar. | |
| Well, I don't care what that is. | |
| I got my boobs done. | |
| I'll tell you that. | |
| I have a BBL. | |
| I'll tell you all what I did get done. | |
| I have my boobs done by Dr. Miami. | |
| I got my veneers done in Miami. | |
| I'll do that. | |
| I got my teeth done in Miami and I got hair extensions. | |
| Those are all the modifications. | |
| I'm starting the poll. | |
| Does she have a bunch of bottles? | |
| No BBL. | |
| No eye shots, no nothing. | |
| But it's like right there. | |
| Why do I have a perfect body? | |
| I don't know, Brian. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Kill me. | |
| Well, I don't think a BBL butt is perfect. | |
| I think it actually looks worse than a normal butt, to be honest. | |
| Well, I don't have a BBL. | |
| Why does my body look like it's fake? | |
| I have no idea. | |
| That's just how I was born. | |
| Did you forget? | |
| For years, I was like, did you forget the plastic surgery you got? | |
| No, I know what I got. | |
| I got my boobs done. | |
| And I'm getting them done again in June. | |
| And I told you this last time. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I'm getting my boobs done again because I'm going to get them bigger. | |
| Oh, my God, Brie. | |
| What are you doing? | |
| So I'm going to get my boobs done bigger. | |
| Okay. | |
| That's. | |
| I'm not going to lie about surgery and then be honest about half the surgeries, but lie about it. | |
| Jake can't fix you. | |
| Like, if I was saying, if I was saying, I have no surgery at all, I'm totally natural. | |
| Then it'd be like, okay, like, stop lying. | |
| But why would I sit here and get it? | |
| I think we should ban plastic surgery. | |
| What do you think, Jake? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Sometimes it looks good. | |
| If I were to say, oh, I got my boobs done and my teeth done and my hair done, but I didn't get BBL and be lying about that. | |
| Like, why would I lie about one? | |
| Because obviously, the BBS is somewhat of a feature that you're somewhat proud of. | |
| But I'm selling my boobs. | |
| Honestly, I'm selling my body, my boobs, and my butt. | |
| Yeah, it's a mockery. | |
| My boobs are girls who come into these podcasts and they'll say all kinds of things that aren't church to attract a certain audience. | |
| The guys think that your ass is real. | |
| And there's a novelty because otherwise, you're just another girl with a BBL. | |
| But you have a natural one. | |
| Exactly. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| Mine is real. | |
| I had, I didn't like my boobs, so I got fake boobs. | |
| Now I have fake boobs. | |
| I'm selling my whole body based on the internet. | |
| I'm selling my boobs, my butt. | |
| I got fake boobs, and I will be honest about that. | |
| You don't have to be honest, we can tell. | |
| Yeah, so I'm going to be open about it. | |
| I'm not going to be there like, oh, I didn't get my boobs done. | |
| They're real. | |
| They're real. | |
| And here's the thing. | |
| I have no problem with plastic surgery. | |
| If that's what you want to do to make yourself feel better and more clever, I like that. | |
| I just don't like when people lie about it. | |
| I'm not careful. | |
| You don't end up looking like Michael, though. | |
| Yeah, well, I don't like when people lie about getting surgery. | |
| Oh, Brie, you're lying about it right now. | |
| I'm not certain. | |
| I'm not. | |
| She's going to come in here in a few years. | |
| You're literally looking like Michael. | |
| No, because it's all real. | |
| Just asking me. | |
| You know what? | |
| It is not. | |
| Who hurt you? | |
| It is not an offense to me to say that I look like I got surgery because a lot of girls pay a lot of money for that. | |
| So the fact that I was naturally given some of the features that girls want. | |
| Even if you paid for it, it's not a big deal. | |
| Yes. | |
| Just own up for it. | |
| Yeah, that's something. | |
| But your lips aren't real. | |
| Your nose aren't real. | |
| Your fillers aren't real. | |
| My nose isn't real. | |
| You have a great nose. | |
| You don't have a bump. | |
| You don't. | |
| You have it past yourself. | |
| I'm actually getting my nose done in June because I don't get a nose. | |
| Don't get your nose done. | |
| It's a beautiful nose. | |
| Don't do a restriction. | |
| I'm getting my nose done in June because I'm a beautiful girl. | |
| You're a beautiful girl. | |
| No, you're not gasping. | |
| You're manifested and know that you don't need to get that stuff done. | |
| No, but I'm literally getting my nose and my boobs redone in June. | |
| Because I don't like my nose and I want bigger boobs. | |
| I'm open about the surgery I'm getting. | |
| I tell everybody, when I was getting my boobs done, I posted it all over TikTok. | |
| So you've had your boobs done twice. | |
| I've got my boobs done once. | |
| Yes, and I'm no, I got my boobs done once, February 15th, by Dr. Miami. | |
| I posted it every day. | |
| I'm trying to. | |
| I'm trying to. | |
| I don't know why he thinks that. | |
| Okay, I have boobs before. | |
| I was a C-cup before. | |
| Brian thinks that I got my boobs done before. | |
| I was just born that way. | |
| I didn't like them. | |
| I wanted them bigger. | |
| Plastic. | |
| No, I was born with C-cups. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Popped out the fucking loom. | |
| Okay, well, I'm not going to argue. | |
| It's kind of a compliment. | |
| They think that it's fake because it looks good. | |
| So they think it sucks. | |
| Actually, I think plastic surgery makes women look worse. | |
| Well, I don't have surgery besides my boobs. | |
| $200. | |
| Can we Chuck Norris style roundhouse kick Brief out of here? | |
| No, no violence. | |
| We're not going to roundhouse kick her. | |
| No. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And BBLs don't look good. | |
| Yeah, BBLs don't look good. | |
| Well, good thing I don't have a BBL. | |
| Good thing I don't have a BBL. | |
| All right, moving on, moving on. | |
| But I don't lie about that stuff. | |
| This just in, your plastic surgeon is about to get fucked up with HIPAA because he just DM'd me and he's like, bro, she's got a BBL. | |
| I'm just kidding. | |
| I was just saying. | |
| HIPAA out the window. | |
| It's all fucked up. | |
| Obviously, I just. | |
| He's like, yes, bro. | |
| Unless Dr. Miami is DMing you right now. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Anyways, okay. | |
| We're coming back really quick to we were doing your dating app profile review. | |
| Pull it up one more time, just quick through like one set, three seconds. | |
| What's up? | |
| So you really think my nose was fake? | |
| Wait, what? | |
| Ryan? | |
| The edge is tipped. | |
| Like the tip of your nose is pinched, and then your lips are full. | |
| That's juvederm, not. | |
| So you think my nose is fake, so I shouldn't get it done in June. | |
| I think you have a great nose. | |
| I don't think you should touch your nose. | |
| Honestly, don't touch it. | |
| You have a beautiful nose. | |
| Okay, so this was Jess. | |
| Yaps too much. | |
| Just pass through real quick. | |
| Yep. | |
| Yep. | |
| That's it. | |
| That's it. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| You yap too much, Jess. | |
| What do you mean by that? | |
| I talk a lot. | |
| Haven't noticed it so far. | |
| What do you mean you talk too much? | |
| Or you yap too much? | |
| When I get into a deep conversation, I just tend to. | |
| Give us a demo. | |
| Let's hear it. | |
| You said you study psychology. | |
| I'm putting you on the spot. | |
| Let's go. | |
| I do. | |
| What are the kinds of things that you like to yap about? | |
| Oh, I like this guy. | |
| Hold on a second. | |
| The attention's briefly not on you. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| Are you talking about finding psychology? | |
| Yeah, what interests you? | |
| If you say you yap a lot and you like to get into deep conversations, what are some of the things that interest you? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I'm only a year into college, so I'm not super deep into it yet. | |
| I've only taken six classes. | |
| What kind of stuff are you studying? | |
| What do they teach these days in psychology? | |
| Sociology. | |
| I'm taking, I took two child development classes because I'm trying to focus on becoming a children's behavioral therapist. | |
| So I'm trying to study children's psychology more. | |
| What are some of the modules? | |
| Who do they teach? | |
| I know there's some good ones that Jordan Peterson talks about sometimes. | |
| Early life behavioral psychologists. | |
| What kind of stuff are they teaching you? | |
| What does it take to be a good behavioral psychologist for a child? | |
| I don't know yet. | |
| I've only been in school for a year. | |
| Aren't they teaching anything in that year? | |
| We are. | |
| It's just the basics. | |
| Like, we, God, I took a gap year, so I'm, it was two years ago when I started college, and then this year I took off because money issues. | |
| And then I'm re-enrolling next semester, so it's been a minute. | |
| But, you know, they introduced the most popular psychologists. | |
| So you get like Freud, Jung, Joseph Gamble, all these guys. | |
| Yeah, and we talk about their studies and then do projects on it. | |
| Lots of drug talk and how it affects children. | |
| Jean-Piaget, I think he's the child psychologist, behavioral psychologist. | |
| You know him? | |
| Jean-Piaget? | |
| I don't remember. | |
| No? | |
| I don't. | |
| Interesting. | |
| Did you get into it because you're interested in psychology and sociology and all these things? | |
| Was there a prior interest? | |
| I didn't know what a major I wanted to do, so it was kind of an impulsive decision. | |
| I noticed that you said you like suicide. | |
| I can't say that, sorry. | |
| Self-deletion. | |
| Self-deletion boys. | |
| What do you mean by that? | |
| That sounds like you kind of. | |
| Is it like a band, isn't it? | |
| Oh, is it a band? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| When I said I yap too much, when I said I yap too much, I meant like when I make a connection with people, I tend to just talk a lot. | |
| That's all. | |
| So if you're my friend, if you get to know me, I'm going to get comfortable with you and I'm going to talk your ear off. | |
| Very interesting. | |
| Very interesting. | |
| So you don't like us? | |
| Because you're not talking. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| What did you ask her? | |
| I was asking if she liked us. | |
| Do you like us? | |
| I mean, I don't know any of you. | |
| You're all very beautiful. | |
| Do you think she has a BBL? | |
| It's okay if you say yes. | |
| I was born this way. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't really know the difference. | |
| I don't stare at the difference of what a BBL is. | |
| Honestly. | |
| Do you want me to stand up and show you? | |
| Can I show you? | |
| I mean, we saw it on Instagram. | |
| Yeah, we saw the whole thing. | |
| Can we just go around the table really quickly? | |
| Does she have a BBL? | |
| I want a straight answer, and I don't want a yeah, but she's really pretty. | |
| All right, straight answer. | |
| Go. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I have no idea. | |
| I wouldn't know what one looks like. | |
| You wouldn't know what a BBL looks like? | |
| I would just imagine like a really fat ass, but I'm not fat ass and I don't definitely. | |
| Yeah, you're just like a tiny person. | |
| Like, I don't know. | |
| Never seen a BBL before? | |
| I have, but on somebody probably a little bit bigger. | |
| No. | |
| Maybe. | |
| Yes. | |
| Say yes. | |
| I would say yes. | |
| No. | |
| You don't think she's got a BBL? | |
| This is the contrarian here. | |
| Well, I feel bad you guys are like picking up. | |
| Do you think that she doesn't have a BBL because you feel bad? | |
| I felt kind of bad you guys were like counting on her for this. | |
| I mean, she could be working out a lot. | |
| I don't work out as you are. | |
| I'm not telling the thighs. | |
| And I don't mean that disrespectfully, but that's how you can tell the difference between you. | |
| I was trying. | |
| I was trying there. | |
| I think you're gorgeous. | |
| No one's ganging up on you, but you can tell in the thighs when someone works out and they actually work for it. | |
| Well, I see. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I was just. | |
| I don't know. | |
| If you guys think my ass is so fat, which I don't think it is that fat, but if you guys think my ass is so fat that it looks like I got a BBL, I'm going to take that as a compliment. | |
| Or you should fly. | |
| I'm going to take that as a compliment here. | |
| I'm not going to move. | |
| What kind of a Latino are you? | |
| I'm Panamanian. | |
| Do they even have big booties? | |
| If you said you're Colombian, maybe you would have swagged me a little bit. | |
| Colombia is next to Panama. | |
| Panama used to be a part of Colombia. | |
| So yes, we all come from the same ancestry. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| And I haven't seen that many Panamanians around. | |
| What's the population of Panama? | |
| Like 4 million. | |
| Okay. | |
| You been there? | |
| I was born and raised there. | |
| Yeah, a lot of BBLs around, eh? | |
| Actually, surgery is not very common. | |
| Really? | |
| I went to Colombia and they all have BBLs. | |
| 18 years old, boom, BBL. | |
| Panama is more strict, like more like conservative. | |
| So it's more looked down upon to like get BBLs and get surgery. | |
| When I got my boobs done, my family was like freaking out, but I got it done anyway. | |
| You said you're from a conservative family? | |
| Like Panama is a conservative country. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Like more like rules and like it's looked down upon to get surgery and like wear a lot of like skimpy clothes and things like that. | |
| That's looked down upon. | |
| So when I got my boobs done and I told my mom it's gonna be, she lost her shape. | |
| What did they say when you got your BBL? | |
| Well, I didn't get a BBL. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| I can't, like, I'm not going to lie about one thing and not lie about the other. | |
| If I wanted to lie about being natural, I'd be like, I'm 100% natural. | |
| And I push that shit. | |
| Like, I was pushing I was being a virgin. | |
| Ask Brian. | |
| I didn't fold to the people saying, oh, no, but you're living your life. | |
| Sure, you were pretty truthful about that. | |
| I don't, like, I'm saying when people push me, when people push me, I'm not one of those people that's going to be like folding, like, oh, no. | |
| If you were to fall over onto your bomb, would you bounce? | |
| Would it bounce? | |
| Probably not, because it's not that fat. | |
| Okay, look, I'm going to be honest. | |
| My body's not that fat. | |
| I mean, it's nice, like, for my shape, for how skinny I am, it does look round, but it hasn't been. | |
| I'm moving this on. | |
| This is ridiculous. | |
| So I don't know how y'all think I have a BBL. | |
| Stop. | |
| You're being disrespectful and mean to Bree. | |
| Bree is being honest and actually more logical than you guys. | |
| You are trying to bring her down. | |
| You sound ideologically driven by the rules in the Bible. | |
| Leave the judgment to God. | |
| What we need is love, compassion, and openness. | |
| Well, actually, I can make a very simple secular argument here. | |
| Lying about something, you can object to that whether you're Christian or not. | |
| And it's very evident that she's lying about a great multitude of things. | |
| What am I lying about? | |
| You've lied about the fact that you're a virgin. | |
| When did I lie about being virginal? | |
| On my show and on another podcast. | |
| And then you're also lying about the BBL thing, but we're not going to linger on it. | |
| I have a question. | |
| Why are you so obsessed with my fake real butt? | |
| I actually, I'm not. | |
| Why are you so obsessed? | |
| You love it? | |
| Do you want it? | |
| You want to eat it? | |
| I'm going to hit my vape on the bottom. | |
| No, my issue is. | |
| I'm not lying. | |
| Look. | |
| You're lying about it. | |
| That's the issue. | |
| I'm not like you focused in on the booty. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Why are you lying about it? | |
| I feel like if you're going to do something, full Sunday. | |
| If you're going to get your boobs done, full Sunday. | |
| Tell everybody that you got your boobs done. | |
| Make it all out. | |
| That's why I'm getting them bigger because I want it more obvious that it's fake. | |
| I want, like, I want that. | |
| So if you're going to do something, be proud of that shit. | |
| Stand on business. | |
| If I get a BBL, which I can't because I'm too skinny, and I probably would if I could, if I got a BBL, bro, I'd be showing everybody my BBL. | |
| I'd be doing. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| I would be literally freaking texting everybody to get a BBO. | |
| We're going to do the next dating app review, next dating app review. | |
| If you follow me since I was 15, you guys would know. | |
| Look up Briadaline, 15 years old. | |
| Yeah, well, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. | |
| No, really, it's on Google. | |
| You could see my bikini picture. | |
| That's weird. | |
| That's really weird for you to say. | |
| I'm just going to move entirely past that. | |
| That's kind of gross. | |
| No, it's on Google. | |
| You're encouraging men to look at your young photo. | |
| That's really weird, Brie. | |
| That's super weird. | |
| That's you being weird. | |
| I didn't post those. | |
| They're on Google because that's how I blew up. | |
| That's all over Twitter. | |
| Are they on Google because you posted them? | |
| I posted it on Twitter when I was 15. | |
| That's a crazy thing to say, dude. | |
| Disavow, bro. | |
| The whatever podcast ain't about that fucking weird shit that she just said. | |
| Fucking disavow that immediately. | |
| She says she goes crazy. | |
| So this is Ryan here. | |
| She goes crazy for like 30 minutes a day. | |
| Not just 30 minutes a day, like 30 minutes a day. | |
| Next. | |
| So I'll fall for you if you're chivalrous. | |
| So I'm crazy, chivalrous. | |
| Okay, next. | |
| And then dating me is like going through TSA. | |
| Is there another one or is that it for her? | |
| What's TSA? | |
| Like when you run to an airport. | |
| Wait, so why is dating you like going through TSA? | |
| Okay, I want to be completely honest. | |
| I got this dating app about three months ago when I finally felt ready to go on a date again. | |
| And I was at a bar with just all of my coworkers and they created it for me. | |
| I could not think of a single prompt. | |
| I was drunk. | |
| So they made it for me and I turned it on for about a week and I turned it off. | |
| When was this? | |
| Three months ago? | |
| This was probably when I created it. | |
| I want to challenge you here a little bit. | |
| A lot of women will claim, oh, like this sort of quirky, my friends just made my dating app for me. | |
| And I don't really like, as a way, because you almost view the use of dating apps as pathetic. | |
| So it's like a way to reduce your culpability. | |
| Yeah, I see what you're saying. | |
| I absolutely see. | |
| Like a lot of women will be like, oh, my friends made it for me. | |
| No, it's like this. | |
| You might be being honest now. | |
| Yeah, the two prompts, the TSA and then the going 30 minutes a day. | |
| Those are from my coworker Tyler. | |
| Hi, Tyler. | |
| The chivalrous one, that's absolutely me. | |
| The pictures are obviously all me. | |
| But yeah, I was kind of just wanting to see who, what kind of guys are in Dallas. | |
| Didn't love it. | |
| So it's off now. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| You're not using the dating app really then? | |
| No. | |
| Not really. | |
| When's the last time you sent a message on the app? | |
| Oh, gosh. | |
| Three months ago. | |
| I guess two and a half months ago, probably. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| So, okay. | |
| There's the crazy thing. | |
| So that he was wrong about the going crazy for 30 minutes a day thing? | |
| You could, I mean, a lot of people would probably say it. | |
| You said it was a male friend who said that? | |
| No, her name is Tyler. | |
| Oh, her name's Tyler. | |
| And she was trying to get you dates or trying to scare men away. | |
| That's the prompt that she uses. | |
| It was just a quick one. | |
| I wasn't planning on going. | |
| I didn't go. | |
| That's what she uses for her profile? | |
| Yes. | |
| And then same with the TSA one. | |
| Can I ask? | |
| I don't get the going crazy for 30 minutes a day. | |
| Is it like Zoomies for date it so I can start swiping? | |
| I don't know. | |
| It's a really bad dating profile. | |
| It's a fucky thing to say. | |
| I guess so. | |
| I was very cringed out by it. | |
| That's why it's all. | |
| Okay. | |
| So you are desirous of chivalry, though. | |
| Yes, that one is 100%. | |
| Okay, why is that? | |
| Those are just the types of guys that I've dated. | |
| Okay, so what does it mean for a guy to be chivalrous? | |
| I guess more traditional. | |
| I guess it usually honestly starts with just the way that they would speak to me. | |
| It's more of a respectful way. | |
| I could name a couple of things, but like they're so basic. | |
| Just like opening a door, like the car door. | |
| I feel like that's not like an expectation, but it's so sweet when they do it. | |
| I just love it. | |
| I don't know, flowers on the first date are cute. | |
| Flowers on the first date. | |
| Okay. | |
| It's not, again, not an experiment. | |
| It's just like cute. | |
| I know. | |
| Yeah, it's tough, though. | |
| These days, you don't really want to do that. | |
| Men get punished for doing that in the West. | |
| They do. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So just more older things that, you know. | |
| How many first dates have you been on? | |
| Oh, maybe like five. | |
| Only five? | |
| I've dated two guys for a long time. | |
| So in between that time, yeah, I'd say five. | |
| Oh, Nick, you can get rid of the chat. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Otherwise, people are going to be just staring out at the whole show. | |
| All right. | |
| Let me end the poll here. | |
| So, okay, you want chivalry. | |
| Don't necessarily think there's anything wrong with that. | |
| I just like to see people holding up their end of the bargain. | |
| So if your expectations are men do all those things, what are you expected to bring early on in a relationship to be deserving of said chivalry? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Again, I want to say I don't expect it, but when they do it, I absolutely love it, and that's what I'm attracted to. | |
| I mean, overall, like, are you asking just what I bring to the relationship? | |
| I guess, but. | |
| Or even early on in the dating scenario. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, what did y'all say earlier? | |
| Kind, sweet, and attractive. | |
| I mean, I would say I'm a very, very kind person. | |
| I listen to people. | |
| I support them if I support them. | |
| On the first date? | |
| How would you support someone on the first date? | |
| Oh, if we're talking about a first date, that's a little bit different. | |
| But you have, it sounds like you have traditional gender role expectations immediately, right? | |
| On the first date, chivalry. | |
| Flowers, opening the car door, paying for the first date, treating you in a gentlemanly way. | |
| So what are some of the things that you would do immediately that you're bringing to a guy? | |
| Because perhaps three months into a relationship, you might fall into your traditional gender roles. | |
| But what are you doing up front that's traditional? | |
| I would say I'm going to do my best to look the part. | |
| What do you mean, look the part? | |
| I'm going to do my makeup, do my hair. | |
| Is that traditional? | |
| I would say so. | |
| And then I'm going to be kind to them while they're on the date. | |
| I'm going to thank them for their dinner, and then we're going to have a good time. | |
| Couldn't a non-traditional woman do all those same things? | |
| Yeah, I'm sure. | |
| It's not clear to me, though, if like looking nice, putting on makeup, doing your hair is like a specifically traditional thing. | |
| Because like a super liberal, progressive feminist could do all that shit too. | |
| Totally. | |
| I guess let's take the traditional part out of it and just say that's what I would do. | |
| I think it makes sense, but like in the first date, though, this is where it's difficult. | |
| Because men are expected to do things that embody traditional on a first date. | |
| For a woman, generally, you want to be kind, sweet, attractive, look pretty, show up, be sweet, all that. | |
| But it's what you've done outside of that that makes you traditional. | |
| So if you've been like a massive hoe over the series of five, ten years, and then you rock up and say, oh, I'm traditional. | |
| You better be traditional. | |
| Totally. | |
| That's not okay. | |
| But if you've embodied certain values throughout your life, and you come to the date and you act according to a traditional standard, then that's fine. | |
| Then you can expect some sort of chivalry. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I agree with that. | |
| I don't really think there's necessarily so many things that a woman has to do on a first date besides be there at least that you can guide. | |
| Like when you date, are you dating? | |
| Like are you talking to multiple guys at the same time? | |
| No. | |
| I'm not saying sleeping with them, but. | |
| I truthfully can't. | |
| And I sometimes don't understand how a lot of girls can. | |
| I can't, I'll forget things. | |
| And then I would, yeah, that's too much. | |
| I could say two at one time, maybe. | |
| But then, I don't know, once you fall for somebody, you kind of just don't really, you can't get out of that. | |
| I feel like you're just into them and like, why pay attention to somebody else? | |
| You're just like doomed to sure. | |
| And I'm not trying to come off like I'm coming at you, but there is, it does seem that even for liberal, progressive, even feminist women, there's this very gendered expectation on men that they still uphold their traditional values when it comes to, or they adhere to traditional gender rules rather when it comes to the initial stages of dating. | |
| Even for liberal, progressive, feminist women, and it's kind of like this frustrating thing for a lot of men where you have these women who are not traditional themselves, but demand traditional treatment from men. | |
| And frankly, they get it anyways because men are just will bend over backwards for anything, pretty much. | |
| But so, yeah, right, Bri? | |
| Yeah. | |
| She was not. | |
| I only said that because she was totally zoned out. | |
| She'd let a girl know that she wasn't listening to what I was saying. | |
| So we have one more dating app review. | |
| We have, who do we have? | |
| We have KJ, right? | |
| KJ? | |
| Yeah. | |
| All right. | |
| This is KJ here. | |
| First round is on me. | |
| You can guess my real name. | |
| Okay. | |
| Next. | |
| Next. | |
| Key to my heart is a fat morg on the rocks. | |
| Next. | |
| Don't hate me if I call myself mama too much. | |
| Wait, what do you mean by the you call yourself mama? | |
| What are we talking about? | |
| Yeah, it's just a habit I've started picking up where I'm just myself in third person. | |
| I will refer to myself as mama. | |
| Starting off as mommy. | |
| This is a very common mistake that I find that girls make on dating apps. | |
| The first bit was great. | |
| You looked very sweet. | |
| You had a photo with your mom. | |
| That was amazing. | |
| But then you said, call myself mama. | |
| Girls aren't really funny. | |
| And men, we don't care necessarily if you guys are funny. | |
| Some women can be funny. | |
| I haven't met many. | |
| Sorry, maybe a small handful. | |
| But we don't really care if you guys are funny. | |
| Not always. | |
| This is not even advice, but if I were a girl, I would keep the jokes off of my profile. | |
| Okay. | |
| I don't think that I'm like. | |
| Damn, I don't think I'm funny. | |
| I will never say that. | |
| I'm definitely not. | |
| I don't think. | |
| Was she? | |
| Were you trying to be funny with that? | |
| No, it's just literally. | |
| It's literally just like, I don't even think she's funny. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| Really, I don't know if she's mama. | |
| No, I don't think I'm funny. | |
| I would actually never try to put a joke on there. | |
| That would be embarrassing because I would definitely fail in that area. | |
| Calling yourself mama, that was like a word. | |
| No, I literally, I just do. | |
| And like, I don't know, it's just my personality. | |
| I'm not going to go on there and try like super hard, honestly. | |
| I'm just going to put myself out there. | |
| And whatever. | |
| What is the context? | |
| What is the context in which you're calling yourself mama? | |
| I'll just be like, mama's working hard today. | |
| She's working. | |
| That's manifesting a future multiple times a day. | |
| Okay. | |
| Wait, is this like, will you incorporate this into your, if you're dating a guy, will you be like, mama brought him. | |
| Mama got the goods. | |
| No. | |
| You ready for mommy? | |
| Not on the first day. | |
| Okay. | |
| That comes out later. | |
| Look at our good friend here, Dario Reids, Canadian 140. | |
| I hate to give more money to this podcast because Brixen has turned into a misogynist. | |
| The fact that you harp on her lips and she clearly explains she has no reason to hide it. | |
| Actually, I didn't really linger too much on the lips, but more harm is done than good. | |
| Happy to come on and chat anytime to set things straight. | |
| Dario Reids, bro. | |
| I agree. | |
| I have no reason to hide anything. | |
| Is it really misogynistic to question somebody when they're lying to you? | |
| Is that like the new am I lying to you? | |
| Yeah, you're lying. | |
| Why am I lying to you? | |
| No, like, were you there in the surgery with me or something? | |
| Like, did you watch? | |
| Textbook simp. | |
| Textbooks. | |
| He's simping. | |
| She obviously loves the attention. | |
| She's really enjoying it. | |
| She was enjoying us showing her Instagram, talking about her ass. | |
| She's here to promote her OnlyFans. | |
| Dario, stop. | |
| I'm not here to promote my OnlyFans. | |
| Actually, I quit OnlyFans, but. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But you enjoy the attention. | |
| We all know that you enjoy the attention. | |
| You're not traumatized by it, so it's fine. | |
| No. | |
| Wait, Dario, I have a question for you, dude. | |
| Without googling it, define misogyny. | |
| I've got a question for you, Diogeny, dude. | |
| Have you ever seen the clown that hides from gays? | |
| That hides from what? | |
| The clown that hides from gays. | |
| Have you guys ever seen the clown that hides from the game? | |
| Wait, let's avoid like. | |
| I think it's probably a little like TOS. | |
| Okay. | |
| I think. | |
| I don't think so, but yeah, okay. | |
| I'll avoid it. | |
| What's up? | |
| Wait, is it like. | |
| Yeah. | |
| No, no, it's saying if you haven't seen the clown that hides from gays, the clown's hiding from you. | |
| Oh, I say, yes. | |
| Gotcha. | |
| Okay. | |
| I don't get it. | |
| Have you seen it? | |
| And he was talking about humor. | |
| Have you not seen it? | |
| No, is it like a video or some shit? | |
| If you haven't seen it, I mean. | |
| No, I haven't seen it. | |
| I haven't seen that. | |
| No, fair enough. | |
| Fair enough. | |
| I have. | |
| Guys, we have a lot of we have like extra eyeballs on us from YouTube and like Twitch and shit, so I'm just trying to be more careful with that. | |
| I won't say anything. | |
| No, it's okay. | |
| It's okay. | |
| I'm just trying to make sure we don't say anything fucking TOS because extra eyeballs on us. | |
| Just me and you, bro. | |
| Okay. | |
| So wait, viewers, do you swipe yes or do you swipe no on her profile, I guess? | |
| Yeah? | |
| Swipe yes, swipe no? | |
| Let's get into the. | |
| We're going to get into some of the pre-show notes here for everybody. | |
| Let's see. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Wait, okay. | |
| So we have talking stage, single, single. | |
| Really quick on everybody who's single. | |
| So are you really single? | |
| Like there's not some guy in the picture. | |
| So while you're in talking stage, Jess, is that correct? | |
| Yes. | |
| There's some guy in the picture for you, Brie? | |
| No. | |
| No guy in the picture for you? | |
| There is no guy in the picture. | |
| No guy? | |
| Not even talking to a guy? | |
| No. | |
| Not even hooking up with a guy? | |
| No. | |
| Nothing. | |
| Single for six months? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| No guy in the picture? | |
| No guy in the picture. | |
| Talking stage for you, if I recall? | |
| No guy in the picture. | |
| Nobody, not even texting. | |
| And then Alexa, any name, single. | |
| Come on. | |
| Okay, well, all right. | |
| Okay, so let's get into some of the pre-show notes here. | |
| So we're going to start with, let's see, she didn't show up. | |
| We are going to start with Jess. | |
| So Jess, you're a feminist. | |
| Is that correct? | |
| I don't think I said that when I texted you. | |
| In the response to your thing? | |
| Said you're a feminist? | |
| Pretty sure you did. | |
| I did. | |
| That was a mistake. | |
| Well, hold on. | |
| Don't walk it back because perhaps. | |
| Yeah, you said, okay, 20, Racha, single, Oceanside, apolitical feminist. | |
| Okay, that was a mistake then. | |
| mistake how would you because I didn't want to scoot Scoots at the mic to the edge of the table, please. | |
| I didn't want to text anything that I didn't want to talk about, so I apologize for that. | |
| Wait, what? | |
| What do you mean? | |
| Like, I don't want to debate this kind of things. | |
| Debate what? | |
| About feminism. | |
| Wait, so point of clarification: are you a feminist? | |
| It depends on your definition. | |
| So, okay, here's the question that we sent you like three weeks ago when we reached out. | |
| The question is, do you consider yourself feminist, traditional, or other? | |
| To which you responded, feminist. | |
| Then I apologize. | |
| Apologize for what? | |
| Don't apologize. | |
| You can just say you're not a feminist. | |
| I don't think I'm a feminist. | |
| It really just depends on the definition, because I feel like different people view feminism in different ways, very different ways. | |
| So I don't really want to label myself as one. | |
| Which wave of feminism are you? | |
| I just believe in equality. | |
| That's it. | |
| So first and second wave. | |
| Yes. | |
| Wait, so you're not a feminist or you are? | |
| I'm just going to go with no. | |
| Well, what do you mean? | |
| You're just going to go with no? | |
| Because like I just said, people have different definitions of it. | |
| People believe that feminism. | |
| We can cross-examine, see if you want. | |
| Well, I asked you the question. | |
| I don't want to sound like one of those girls like, oh, I hate all men. | |
| I hate all men. | |
| Sure, that's fine. | |
| I suppose you can be a feminist and not hate men. | |
| I'm not a feminist. | |
| That was a mistake in our text. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| So you're traditional then? | |
| No, other. | |
| N-A. | |
| What is other? | |
| N-A. | |
| I'm just confused because the question was, do you consider yourself a feminist? | |
| And you responded feminist. | |
| That was a mistake, and I'm sorry. | |
| But I've got to give you a little pushback here because it seems like you're refusing to stick to the identification that you provided because you don't wish to talk about the topic of feminism. | |
| No, it just sounds like I made a mistake. | |
| I think maybe my mind was somewhere else, and then I read feminism or feminists, and then I wrote down feminists. | |
| Right, but if I could rewind like 60 seconds, didn't you? | |
| I've never called myself a feminist. | |
| That's fine, but 60 seconds ago, didn't you just say that you don't want to talk about that? | |
| Yeah, I don't want to debate feminism with you. | |
| No. | |
| So is that why you're now walking back your self-identification as a feminist? | |
| No, because I wouldn't have said that in the first place. | |
| I didn't mean to say that in the first place. | |
| So then why would you not want to discuss feminism? | |
| It's just not something I want to debate about. | |
| Because I don't necessarily know your beliefs on the whole men and women equality. | |
| Probably because she sees how you attack me and then she's like, oh, she want to get attacked like that. | |
| Yeah, I guarantee a lot of women don't want to bring up certain things that they believe in because they don't want to get into it with you. | |
| Because literally you come on here and then you come and ask me. | |
| You guys do realize that this is an adversarial dating discussion show where we often get into debates. | |
| Yes, and there's certain things that I'll gladly talk about and there's just other things that I don't want to. | |
| And there's some things that maybe I don't think I'm educated enough to talk about so I don't want to. | |
| And there's a difference between a debate and a nice argument about something and then maybe language. | |
| You came in bad faith straight away. | |
| You can't talk. | |
| You have bad faith. | |
| You can't talk. | |
| You on the other hand, if you wanted to, we don't necessarily have to debate anything, but if you wanted to, obviously you don't have to, but we could take it issue by issue and see what you think about things and see if you can have your mind changed or if you could change your minds. | |
| That's fine, but I'm just trying to say me saying that I was a feminist in our text was a mistake. | |
| Do you think you think that there's something wrong with identifying as a feminist? | |
| No, not at all. | |
| It seems a little bit like I am a feminist, but I don't want to get bulldozed by Brian in a debate over feminism. | |
| So I'm just not going to say I'm a feminist. | |
| Sure. | |
| Oh, so hold on. | |
| But when you say sure, do you mean yes? | |
| Because you're just kind of assuming at this point. | |
| Would that be wrong to assume you're a feminist when you said you were feminist and pre-show notes? | |
| I'm not going to label myself, and I told you that was a mistake, I think, about 10 times now. | |
| I would imagine that you have some people lie. | |
| You probably do align with feminism, but you don't necessarily want to debate it, the issues. | |
| That's not something I wanted to be either. | |
| Same with politics and same with religion, because I'm not educated enough on either. | |
| That's a self-aware thing to say. | |
| I respect that. | |
| Do you consider yourself apolitical? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Interesting. | |
| Right. | |
| Well, let's see. | |
| You said you were. | |
| Because in number 14, you said that you disagree with many topics the host speaks on, but also can agree on many as well. | |
| Actually, and I'll open this up to the entire panel to let them in, but one thing we typically do is we like to hear from people who disagree. | |
| So I would like to start. | |
| So what are your disagreements and we'll start there? | |
| I mean, I didn't make a list. | |
| I texted you back as I was studying your podcasts, and I can't. | |
| What do you mean you can't? | |
| Can I just say if you did have things that you disagree with, I know that you maybe don't necessarily want to go into anything adversarial, but you're more than welcome to bring them up and we won't like. | |
| Yeah, I just don't want to bring up, like, I don't want to bring up a specific topic and start a whole debate. | |
| Like, if, you know, if you say something. | |
| I'm fine with that. | |
| If you say something that I disagree with, I will cut in. | |
| Really, will you? | |
| If I think that I can give a good input on it, yes. | |
| Right, but I mean, this, I'm opening it up for opportunity for anybody who does disagree with me on anything at this precise moment, and I'm starting with you. | |
| Well, okay, look, in your pre-show notes, you said I disagree with many topics the host speaks on, and I'm happy to engage with you on these. | |
| These messages were two weeks ago, and I thought that you were the one who brought up most of the topics that we talk about, or it's just a discussion and it gets pulled into the past. | |
| Well, you've seen the show, right? | |
| So, okay, well, I just ask you, what do you disagree with me on? | |
| I don't have anything named right now. | |
| I didn't know that you were disagreeing with me. | |
| You want me to guess? | |
| Hold on. | |
| You want me to guess what you disagree with me on? | |
| Why don't you just state what you disagree with me on? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Have you seen the show or just seen clips? | |
| Yes. | |
| You've seen full shows. | |
| Yes. | |
| Are you aware of the nature? | |
| And you DM'd us first, correct? | |
| Yes. | |
| Requesting to be on the show. | |
| Yes. | |
| And you're aware of the fairly adversarial nature of the show, where we do have heated debates about dating-related topics. | |
| Okay, and you stated in your pre-show notes that you disagree with many topics the host speaks on. | |
| Do you care to articulate at least one? | |
| Can you come back to me? | |
| Can you wait early? | |
| These messages. | |
| Well, hold on. | |
| We have multiple girls. | |
| I think we have a couple girls here who've reached out even prior to that. | |
| And if I were to start asking them questions, they would happily engage with me with their pre-show notes. | |
| I'm not going to press you more, but I have given you ample opportunity to engage in the conversation. | |
| I'm warning you now: if you're refusing to engage, I'm not going to really be particularly inclined to come back to you again. | |
| Is that fair? | |
| I'm not refusing to engage. | |
| I just have. | |
| But is that fair? | |
| I'm not going to make any further efforts in this conversation to reel you in. | |
| Is that fair for you? | |
| That's fair. | |
| Because I've attempted, but if you're just going to stonewall, then I, for the sake of the other panelists, I don't want to have meta-conversations like this. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right, moving on. | |
| We're going to talk to KJ. | |
| You said you were almost engaged and married at age 19. | |
| Correct. | |
| Okay. | |
| And you said that was psycho of you? | |
| Yes. | |
| I do think that. | |
| Okay. | |
| I mean, I kind of touched on it earlier. | |
| I think that the school that I was at was just so into like Ring by Spring. | |
| Looking back now that I've gone through college and I've gone through post-college life, I think that it is pretty psycho of me that I would do that. | |
| Not against other people who have done that. | |
| I think that people found their person and that's who it was. | |
| But I went in from a high school relationship that was not super awesome and it got to a point where I was dating him for so long it was hard to get out of it and I felt pretty trapped in it. | |
| So yeah, I just like looking back now and living what I have and like the experiences that I've had now, I'm very happy that I didn't do that is what I mean by like that was psycho of me. | |
| Okay. | |
| And you said also every time I get into relationships, the guys end up getting crazy clingy. | |
| And I think it's because I maybe act more like a guy in regards to be super distant, but I legit can't get away from it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean that in like a humble way. | |
| That sounds like it's snotty of me. | |
| I promise that that's not the case. | |
| But like, no, like most of the times that I'm in a relationship, I guys just get like really clingy, really obsessive. | |
| They move like really, really fast. | |
| And yeah, I just really can't. | |
| I have a hard time. | |
| By clingy, do you mean like physically like tactile or is it more of like texting you all the time and stuff? | |
| Both. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And they like, yeah, they'll like get me big gifts and like try to take me on trips and stuff like really early on. | |
| I said that I think that that might be the case because I think that it's nice that you might be doing something right. | |
| Well, but I don't want that. | |
| It kind of turns me away, honestly. | |
| Girls like it. | |
| It's really bad to me. | |
| I really don't like it at all. | |
| It's just so early on. | |
| Yeah, so early. | |
| He likes the chase. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I think that there would be an element of liking the chase as well. | |
| Girls don't like to be dirted on early. | |
| I like to be dotted on the chase. | |
| Yeah, sure. | |
| Like for me, I like to be if a girl was to do that and buy me gifts early, it wouldn't be a red flag at all. | |
| It would be a massive green flag. | |
| You love it. | |
| Simp, simply. | |
| I don't get that off to you. | |
| Yeah, that makes sense. | |
| Yeah, that's why I was like, I don't want to be looking down at him. | |
| It's because I'm more distant. | |
| Maybe in the beginning, like, I feel like I see all these TikToks that are girls telling other girls and they're like, everybody, just like take it slow, calm down. | |
| Like, you don't need to be texting him all the time. | |
| It'll work. | |
| Whatever. | |
| No, don't take that advice. | |
| But like, that's what I feel like it is because I not that I am trying to do that, but I just feel like guys go. | |
| Yeah. | |
| They are like together. | |
| Yeah, I have one. | |
| One? | |
| Older or younger? | |
| He's older. | |
| He's 36. | |
| Okay, cool. | |
| I'd probably take his advice, if anything. | |
| Don't take girls' advice on TikTok. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I've seen a lot of these videos floating. | |
| Well, girls are just all over the place on TikTok. | |
| It's hard to take advice. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, reach out to your brother. | |
| He'll probably know a thing or two. | |
| But yeah, these videos I see are shocking advice. | |
| Whenever I saw, I saw one girl who'd been on here and she was saying like all of these things that are a red flag about guys and it was so like, just so condescending. | |
| And yeah, I'd stay away from those videos. | |
| Even the popular ones. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Unless they're married with like five kids. | |
| They shouldn't be on the internet. | |
| But you have heard of love bombing, right? | |
| Yeah, we've heard of it. | |
| And that's considered a red flag, correct? | |
| What do you mean by that? | |
| When they, like, in the beginning, just show so much emotion and they give so much. | |
| If it's coming across in an insecure way, then yeah. | |
| Well, most of the time, I think a lot of the time in my case. | |
| No, it's not. | |
| No, it's not. | |
| If a girl is reasonably like she hasn't slept around a lot and it means a lot to her, you can really tell. | |
| But if you're with a girl and it doesn't really mean a lot after you guys sleep together, for example, that's a massive red flag because it means kind of nothing to her. | |
| If she's using it as some sort of like a way to get off, huge red flag. | |
| But if it means a lot and if she simps on you a lot after it, and you can tell that she's trying to get really close to you, that's a massive green flag because it means that she takes more pride in it. | |
| So, yeah. | |
| Love bombing in terms of dumping your insecurities on me or whatever, like stay away. | |
| But if she's texting all the time, it's also insecure when you are dumping all your love, like texting multiple times a day. | |
| No, that's fine. | |
| I think that's just insecure. | |
| You're not in a man's position, though. | |
| So from your position, that would be an insecurity. | |
| But from my position, if I have a girl texting me multiple times a day and I'm into her, that's a good thing. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| But from you, though, it would mean that he's desperate. | |
| He shouldn't be texting you multiple times a day. | |
| Right. | |
| But if I've got a girl who texts me every day, I like that. | |
| That's really nice. | |
| Yeah. | |
| If she's not texting me, it's an ick. | |
| But I was wondering if that's what you were experiencing when you were. | |
| A lot of it, yeah. | |
| It would be that, yes. | |
| Yeah, that's fair enough from a girl's perspective. | |
| You wanted to talk about hookup culture? | |
| Come on, mama. | |
| Come on, mama. | |
| I mean, that's just like such a broad thing. | |
| Can you like ask more? | |
| I'll switch it to something else. | |
| You said girls having to make the first move. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yes. | |
| I am not a girly who makes the first move. | |
| I'm kind of on the same boat with Ryan where it's like I take a really traditional approach to things like that. | |
| I like when guys are chivalrous. | |
| I like when guys are going to be making the first move. | |
| Like I don't go on bumble, nothing against bubble, obviously. | |
| But just because like I don't like making the first move, I think in the past, that's kind of how it has been. | |
| Men take the lead on that. | |
| They start the dates. | |
| They take you out on the dates. | |
| They kind of take that dominant role and that's what I like. | |
| And have you experienced like there's a lack of men taking initiative and like have you tried, have you made the first move and you don't like it or what? | |
| I don't often do the first move. | |
| I mean, maybe if I'm like absolutely hammered at a bar and then I'm feeling super confident, maybe I'll do something there. | |
| But for the most part, no, I just stay away from that. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, mama's into it. | |
| You said that guys are too scared to commit because they have thousands of options. | |
| Huh. | |
| That's interesting. | |
| That's interesting. | |
| I think it goes both ways. | |
| I will say that. | |
| I would argue women have far more options than men typically. | |
| Yeah, I think they... | |
| Now, perhaps there is a differential here. | |
| Women tend to hyper-focus on the top echelon of men. | |
| Those men have an abundance of options. | |
| The average man does not have an abundance of options. | |
| Whereas even average women have an abundance of options. | |
| Okay. | |
| I would agree with that. | |
| Okay. | |
| So, but you're saying guys are too scared to commit. | |
| Well, I would like to talk about commitment really quick. | |
| So you going around the table, do you guys think that men are scared of commitment? | |
| No. | |
| Some yes, some no. | |
| Yeah, same answer, some. | |
| Definitely depends on the man, but I think a lot of men in this society are afraid of commitment. | |
| Let me scoot your mic that way. | |
| This way here? | |
| Sorry, wrong way. | |
| Other way, yeah. | |
| There you go. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Are men scared of commitment? | |
| I don't think all of them are. | |
| So I would agree with all of those things. | |
| But a lot of them. | |
| Would you say majority of men are scared of commitment? | |
| I would give like a 60-40. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| Men, no. | |
| Guys, yes. | |
| Oh. | |
| Okay. | |
| Alexa? | |
| Yeah, I would say a majority of men that are ready for a relationship. | |
| No, they're not afraid of commitment. | |
| Okay, so I have another question for the whole panel. | |
| of all the guys you've dated and this could be short-term long-term uh so a guy you saw for one two three dates or even guys you've dated for months or longer boyfriends whatever of all the times that you've had to of all the times that you've had to sorry guys got distracted More often than not, who is ending things? | |
| Of your relationships that you've had, however long or short they are. | |
| Are you ending it or is the guy starting with you? | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Me always. | |
| Always ending? | |
| Yeah. | |
| How many relationships have you had? | |
| Like I said, I don't like to consider them, but it's a good idea. | |
| Well, whatever you consider them. | |
| Serious, probably like four or five. | |
| And you ended all of them? | |
| Yeah. | |
| It was mostly the men. | |
| How many relationships have you been in? | |
| I've been in, well, you said counting dates and like talking and stuff. | |
| I've been in two serious relationships. | |
| Let me actually change it to just relationships. | |
| Let's do that. | |
| So of the two relationships you've been in, who ended it? | |
| Then it was half and half. | |
| Okay, one and one. | |
| What about you? | |
| Half and half. | |
| Give us a number. | |
| I've dated two serious relationships. | |
| One, we broke up, and that was me, and then the other one, he cheated, but then I broke up. | |
| So that's right. | |
| What about you? | |
| Yeah, in some of my past talking stages, I think I had commitment issues, so I would be the one kind of ending that prematurely because I just wasn't sure what I was looking for. | |
| But with my past boyfriend, I ended that because I knew exactly what I was looking for because he was a pursuer and he was a really good man and he showed me what my standards should be. | |
| So more often than not, of all your... | |
| It's usually me for one reason or another. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| I've ended both. | |
| Of your relationships? | |
| Well, I haven't been in a relationship. | |
| Well, the guy you were dating for one month, who ended that? | |
| It was mutual. | |
| Lexa, what about you? | |
| It's split. | |
| I love the guy who cheated on. | |
| Split. | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, so it seems like from your guys' answers here, it's either split or y'all are ending the relationships. | |
| So is it really men that are scared of commitment or is it women? | |
| Because when you guys do, and also, if I can give a divorce statistic, women overwhelmingly initiate divorces. | |
| 80% of divorces are initiated by women. | |
| So it's interesting to me. | |
| You guys really want commitment, but when you get it, you overwhelmingly end it. | |
| So could there, I don't necessarily think men are using the word scared of commitment, but it could certainly be, they could be. | |
| I would say that. | |
| Could men being scared actually be justified given the greater incidence of women ending relationships and marriages? | |
| I definitely get like the insecurities and them being scared. | |
| Like nothing. | |
| Why is that insecure? | |
| I mean like if they're insecure about a girl ending like they're scared of it. | |
| Okay. | |
| I get it. | |
| I would say that she was right about guys versus men. | |
| So I would say I'm 24 years old. | |
| I think a lot of the guys that I see and that I know and that I meet, I think a lot of them are scared of commitment. | |
| I don't think all of them are. | |
| And I think once you mature more, you are going to be more open to that commitment. | |
| But I think maturity is taking a while for a lot of guys. | |
| Sure. | |
| I guess I'm always thinking like I hear these criticisms of men of how they're, as you said, scared to commit. | |
| But I mean, could there be justification for this perception because men's experiences, their own self-experiences, is that women overwhelmingly seem to end relationships and initiate divorces. | |
| So then perhaps that explains men's hesitation to get married and to enter into committed relationships. | |
| Any thoughts there? | |
| I'd also say that Modern dating can be a bit of like It's tough for young guys Because like we said They're scared of commitment But also there's a lot of young guys that just don't get noticed. | |
| They're just totally invisible. | |
| And all of the stats bear this out in terms of if you look at, I think it's 33% of young men below the age of like 21 or something have had zero sex in the last year. | |
| And yeah, a lot of guys are just totally invisible to girls. | |
| And this is why you see guys who will settle for a girl who's like promiscuous or treats him like shit. | |
| It's because a lot of them want to commit to something. | |
| They want love. | |
| They want attention. | |
| But a lot of the girls have got their eyes aiming up, like we said, at the top sort of 10% of guys. | |
| And this is why you'll find that a lot of the guys that maybe you are looking at don't want to commit. | |
| There's a lot of guys that'd be looking at you that would want it. | |
| That you just wouldn't be looking at them. | |
| Why don't you become the top percent of guys? | |
| Do you think every guy should become top percent of girls? | |
| She can teach you. | |
| Well, that's what I'm teaching. | |
| So that is what I'm teaching. | |
| The answer is not to ask girls to not look at the top percent of guys. | |
| The answer is to become the top percent of guys. | |
| So you can get the girls that you want to get. | |
| It doesn't negate what I said. | |
| Do you think you have everything it takes to be a husband? | |
| Truly and honestly, right now, do you think you have everything it takes to be a husband? | |
| I know I do. | |
| Then why are you married? | |
| Because that's not where I'm at in life. | |
| I've got a very busy work and career life and guys can wait a little bit longer to settle down. | |
| I don't have to. | |
| But you said... | |
| The goal is that, yeah. | |
| You are open to... | |
| If you found the right girl right now, you would be open to being in a relationship with her. | |
| Sure. | |
| Sure, definitely. | |
| So it's not about your time and your traveling and all that. | |
| It's really about you. | |
| Yes, it is. | |
| No, it's about. | |
| You just said you'd be open to talking to a girl. | |
| Yeah, I'm open to talking to a girl. | |
| I'm open to it, but it hasn't happened. | |
| I'm not that fussed about it. | |
| Why haven't we got to be a little bit more? | |
| I don't care. | |
| I'm more in a building phase of my career. | |
| Yeah, but I'm not saying that. | |
| Didn't you just say that guys should work to become the top percent of male? | |
| How do you think they do that? | |
| By dating girls every two seconds? | |
| No, I'm saying. | |
| They shut themselves off from dating and then they aim at a goal. | |
| That's why when I asked you, do you have everything that it takes to be a husband? | |
| You said yes. | |
| I do. | |
| So why are you married? | |
| Because I don't want to be yet. | |
| But you would be open. | |
| He's got time. | |
| When you get yourself to a certain level as a man and you cultivate yourself and you better yourself, you can get to the stage where you have options. | |
| And you can do as you please if you get to that stage early enough. | |
| As a guy, you don't necessarily have to settle down until you're 35 or so. | |
| For a lot of guys, I wouldn't recommend that. | |
| Yeah, but you just said you would be open right now if you met the right girl to settle down with her. | |
| Yes, I would be open to it. | |
| So the answer is not that you're not ready for it because you just said you'd be open to it. | |
| Now you're contradicting yourself. | |
| Perhaps I'm slow and I'm not understanding this, but I said that I'm building myself up at the moment in my career. | |
| So you're not ready to be a husband. | |
| If you'd be quiet and just not let the words bounce off your forehead for a second, if you build yourself up for a little while as a man, you can get to a stage where you can eventually have choices and options. | |
| My choice and my option at the moment is to continue to build my career, build my company. | |
| I'm 28 years old. | |
| I don't need to do anything anytime soon. | |
| However, if something very special did come along, I would certainly be open to it. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| So you are not ready to be a husband because you just said if the girl was right, you would, but why don't you have that right girl? | |
| Because you're not there. | |
| Why don't I have a nice tub of ice cream in front of me right now? | |
| I could help you. | |
| Don't I? | |
| Why isn't there a lot of people? | |
| I can help you. | |
| I have a community. | |
| I can't fix you, Jake. | |
| I can help you. | |
| Do you have a community I can join? | |
| Yeah. | |
| How much would it cost me per month? | |
| No, it's free. | |
| Oh, it's free? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Fantastic. | |
| Would I be with all the other guys? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay, fair. | |
| I'm sure I'd get along great with them. | |
| Just poach all her people. | |
| You will learn there how to become that guy. | |
| Tell me, give me the first module. | |
| Like, if when I walk into school first day, me and all the boys, we're just sitting around. | |
| You come up, you're going to give a lecture. | |
| You've got like a stick that you're going to point at the white paper. | |
| And the sexy glasses. | |
| You tell me what you're going to teach. | |
| The first segment is just an introduction, introducing yourself. | |
| Like the first day of school is syllabus. | |
| Let's skip the introductions. | |
| Okay, then the next one is the first pillar of being a good man. | |
| Which is? | |
| Spirituality. | |
| Spirituality. | |
| Okay. | |
| Cool. | |
| So you think that if a man's trying to develop, and when you say spirituality, what do you mean by that, by the way? | |
| Connection to God, manifestation, emotional. | |
| What do you mean by manifestation? | |
| What does that mean, essentially? | |
| Now we're going back to manifestation. | |
| Creation of physical reality. | |
| So you think that when you manifest something, which is a metaphysical activity, it's like you think that you're creating physical reality. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You do that. | |
| Don't you think you create physical reality with your hands? | |
| You create physical reality. | |
| You have to do things. | |
| Yeah. | |
| What moves your hands? | |
| Your brain. | |
| How do you move your brain? | |
| By having the thought. | |
| How do you move your brain? | |
| Exactly. | |
| What? | |
| By having the thought. | |
| By having the thought to move your hands, you move your hands. | |
| What did you just do? | |
| You just manifested. | |
| So I think that what you're talking about is maybe prayer. | |
| If you are truly spiritual, if you're a Christian, when you're talking about manifestation, are you talking about prayer? | |
| Manifestation, prayer, you could call it whatever. | |
| Those are different things. | |
| One of them is like a Gnostic term, and one of them is an actual Christian term. | |
| Something that we actually do. | |
| Ryan, are you sleeping? | |
| Are you sleepy? | |
| Just answer his question. | |
| No, prayer is not necessarily asking for something. | |
| Manifestation is actually taking the action to do something. | |
| So it's kind of like there's a really amazing book that we should all read called The Secret. | |
| Have you heard of The Secret? | |
| No. | |
| Oh, really? | |
| You've never heard of The Secret? | |
| I thought you're an expert in this field of manifesting. | |
| That's why I have the experts. | |
| I have the connections to the experts. | |
| Right. | |
| If you join my community, you will see. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| I'm going to move on. | |
| I'll join. | |
| I'll join. | |
| I'll see what's in there. | |
| Hey, Nick, can you pull up Twitch? | |
| Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever. | |
| Guys, like the video if you're watching on YouTube. | |
| If you're on Twitch, wow, we have almost 2,000 viewers. | |
| That's, I think, almost a record. | |
| Drop us a follow in the Prime sub over there on Twitch. | |
| If you have Amazon Prime, you can link it to Twitch. | |
| It's a quick, free, easy way to support the show. | |
| If you're new over there on Twitch, if you're watching on YouTube, just open up with another tab, twitch.tv/slash whatever. | |
| Drop us a follow, drop us a Prime sub. | |
| If you have one, White Doll, thank for the follow. | |
| Smiles, thank you for the follow, Worrel, thank you for the follow, Glaciy V or Think of the Follow, Titles, thank the Pafollo, Johnny Slaughter. | |
| Thank you for the Prime. | |
| Tech, thank for the Prime. | |
| C-Day, thank you for the Prime. | |
| Really appreciate all your support if they're on Twitch. | |
| Also, guys, like the video. | |
| We have 10,000 people watching. | |
| Drop a like on the video, please. | |
| Get us to what? | |
| Get us to like 2,000 likes if you can. | |
| All right, thank you guys. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Also, let's see. | |
| Let me. | |
| Oh, chats. | |
| We have David Treziak here coming up in just a sec. | |
| Have to go play pool, but need to say plastic women are not my thing personally. | |
| Each their own, though. | |
| Women into hobbies and crafts are attractive. | |
| What's up with Maddie Twin? | |
| Peace to all. | |
| Maddie's out of the office today. | |
| I believe she will be back on Tuesday, though. | |
| That is Ursula. | |
| And she is filling in. | |
| She doesn't speak English. | |
| She only speaks Japanese. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And we have Super Guy. | |
| Can we get the nails checked from all the ladies, please? | |
| You guys want to do nails? | |
| I don't know if you guys do your nails. | |
| No. | |
| Here, we'll start over here. | |
| Okay, boom. | |
| No. | |
| No nails. | |
| Everything else but the nails. | |
| Okay, interesting. | |
| All right. | |
| Yo, super guy. | |
| Appreciate it, man. | |
| And then we do have a super chat here from our friend Senior Muffin Top. | |
| Thank you, brother. | |
| Appreciate the super chat. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thank you. | |
| I wouldn't say that men are scared of commitment. | |
| I take home $160K a year, and women in America are a joke. | |
| Okay. | |
| I got broke up with because I said I did not want four dogs in my house. | |
| The unrealistic standards of women in this country is unbearable. | |
| Interesting. | |
| Four dogs? | |
| Wait, so hold on, bro. | |
| Senior Muffin Top. | |
| What's the story here with the four dogs? | |
| Because, like, was it your girlfriend and she had four dogs? | |
| Or was it like a first date and this chick had four dogs and she was trying to like bring them to your pad? | |
| I actually do kind of think, no offense, I love dogs and kind of riffing off senior Muffin Top here. | |
| I love dogs, love dogs, but it's kind of, I don't know if it's a red flag, but it's like a complication if a girl has pets and a dog. | |
| Again, I fucking love dogs. | |
| Here's why. | |
| Very oftentimes, and this applies to both men and women, but perhaps it might be a little more with women who have dogs. | |
| The dogs tend to be poorly trained or not trained at all. | |
| So if you're going to invite, if I'm inviting you over and you're like tied to your dog and your dog can't be left at your house or you don't have anybody who can watch him for a bit, you typically don't have the discipline for your dog. | |
| He's going to, for example, when I had a dog, couldn't be on furniture, couldn't be on the bed. | |
| Basic rules, right? | |
| Discipline. | |
| A lot of women want, and look, it's fine. | |
| People can, if you want your dog in your bed, I kind of not for that, but hey, some people, whatever. | |
| Me personally, I don't, though. | |
| Dogs are going to be misbehaved. | |
| Sometimes they're not even potty trained. | |
| They're going to fucking take a dookie in your living room and shit. | |
| Literally. | |
| And then it's just like, okay, it's the same thing with like kids, or excuse me, with if they're a single mom. | |
| What's going on, Nick? | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| It's cool. | |
| It's cool. | |
| Okay. | |
| I thought something was something popped up on my end too. | |
| So I thought like something was. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I thought like we lost internet connection or something. | |
| It's kind of like a single mom. | |
| Like having a child kind of complicates the dating process. | |
| The pet, for example, woman who has a pet, that's going to be her number one priority and justifiably so. | |
| Same with single mom. | |
| Your kid's going to be your number one priority, justifiably so, but it is tends to be a little more easy to make plans with a woman who doesn't have a single kid. | |
| Or sorry, who's not a single mom. | |
| Because I mean, I've attempted to do it. | |
| I've not had a long-term relationship or even a short-term relationship with a woman who had a kid, but I've been on one or two dates. | |
| Frequent rescheduling of plans, frequent with women who have kids. | |
| It's just not, it's really just not worth it. | |
| It's the same with dogs. | |
| Oh, my dog, something happened. | |
| It's just like, all right, I'll just date a girl who doesn't have a dog. | |
| Is it just dogs, Brian? | |
| Well, dogs are probably the most high-maintenance normal pet that you can have. | |
| Cats are pretty, you can leave them at the house. | |
| Cats. | |
| I don't like cats. | |
| Dogs need walks and attention. | |
| Cats. | |
| Also, a lot of the time, they're in a single mother household, and we know what happens in single mother households. | |
| The kids are very undisciplined. | |
| So I've dated a girl with cats before, and the cats had no discipline, and they weren't able to go outside. | |
| And I tried to put the cats outside, and she wouldn't let me. | |
| And it's hard. | |
| I think it's hard to train. | |
| Like dogs, you can train. | |
| I think you train cats. | |
| I don't know if you've noticed it, but whenever women tend to train dogs, they always speak to them when they're angry in a loving voice. | |
| They'll say, you can't do that. | |
| Oh, that doesn't work with a dog. | |
| You have to beat it up. | |
| You know that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Beat it up. | |
| No, he doesn't mean physically. | |
| I mean verbally. | |
| I mean yelling. | |
| See, I just assert. | |
| I find it attractive when guys have dogs, actually. | |
| Because you like dogs. | |
| I do like dogs. | |
| I like all animals. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I don't mind if a girl has like a little puppy, you know? | |
| But like dogs you have to train. | |
| Well, what? | |
| And they bark. | |
| The barking. | |
| Oh, my goodness. | |
| You just got to find someone who trains their dog. | |
| That's fine. | |
| Yeah, but a lot, like it, it. | |
| Like, I grew up with a chow chow. | |
| You have to train a chow chow. | |
| It's on a restricted breed list. | |
| Again, I love dogs. | |
| Dogs are great, but it does add a layer of complexity and complication to dating a woman because then, oh, well, I got to bring my dog with me or I got to get a dog sitter. | |
| And then it's just. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But I do see your point. | |
| Like, I, well, no, I mean, like, when you go into about dating a woman with kids, that's why it's hard for me to find a guy without kids, because by my age, they have children. | |
| But it does add a layer of complexity to it. | |
| So it makes him complicated. | |
| No. | |
| No, I wouldn't. | |
| Oh, we have Senior Muffin Top. | |
| He's back. | |
| I like dogs. | |
| I have zero because of my work. | |
| She had four. | |
| We were dating for seven months. | |
| Bro, it's it's it's hard enough, like somebody who has one dog, but if they have four dogs, I mean, it's a full-time job. | |
| I have a lot of dogs. | |
| You said you were okay with two dogs, but four is too much. | |
| Likes to travel. | |
| She couldn't because of dogs. | |
| I mean, there's a lot of complications. | |
| Okay, let's say you want to move in together, at least here in Santa Barbara, California. | |
| It's very hard to find, because, I mean, the rental market here, it's very seller. | |
| What's it called? | |
| What's the term? | |
| There's much more demand than there is supply. | |
| And so landlords can be like, a lot of landlords, no pets, no pets, no pets, because it's trouble for landlords, too. | |
| If it wasn't a trouble for landlords, they wouldn't be charging pet deposits and all this stuff or just not even wanting to rent to people who have pets. | |
| Yo, dog. | |
| Thank you very much, man. | |
| Thank you for the gifted 20 memberships. | |
| Appreciate it, dude. | |
| Yeah, four is a lot, though. | |
| And if she's moving into your place, it could have issues. | |
| If you have a lease, maybe the lease doesn't allow dogs. | |
| And you know what? | |
| I mean, Senior Muffin Top, maybe she would have expected you to start like, okay, you need to walk the dogs now. | |
| Now the responsibility starts falling on you. | |
| So, I mean, it can definitely be a burden. | |
| So, yeah. | |
| Appreciate it, man. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Bringing it back to KJ, though. | |
| Awesome. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So, KJ, you had two disagreements with me. | |
| You will start with Brian not wanting a woman with a high body count, and men can. | |
| So, can you better state your disagreement? | |
| Okay. | |
| I honestly, I just don't really see why it matters between different genders, to be completely honest. | |
| Well, like, what's your argument as to why men can have higher body counts? | |
| I don't think I've actually argued that is the thing. | |
| I think there are differences. | |
| I think that here's what I've said, right? | |
| And I don't know if this is where you have a disagreement with me on. | |
| I think it's fine for a guy who has a high body count to desire or partner with a woman who has a low body count. | |
| I don't object to that at all. | |
| Now, women are perfectly, if women have an objection to dating a man with a high body count, that's totally fine. | |
| I don't have a double standard there in the same way that I think it's optimal for men to date women with low body counts. | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, I would agree with those things. | |
| Okay. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Well, oftentimes, but oftentimes, my argument, and I'm not in favor of male promiscuity, but my argument is because I don't think something I get pushed back on is, I'll argue, even if a guy has a high body count, which I'm not advocating for, it's always going to be the most optimal choice to date a woman who does not have a promiscuous past. | |
| Everybody, when it comes to dating, wants to get the best partner they can get. | |
| And it occurs to me for a lot of valid reasons that a woman who doesn't have a promiscuous past, isn't currently promiscuous, has a low body count, is, at least within that metric alone, will make for a more optimum partner than the woman who is promiscuous, was promiscuous, or has a high body count. | |
| I would agree with you on most of those things. | |
| Like, I think all of those things. | |
| I think just a lot of guys have a problem with girls having a higher body count. | |
| Oh, so it's like a hypocrisy thing. | |
| So you have high bounds. | |
| It's like you can have a high body count, but why can't girls wear the double standard? | |
| They can, but just because you're more ideal, though, for women to have lower body counts. | |
| I don't necessarily think it makes you a hypocrite as a man. | |
| Like, nobody's obliged to date anybody. | |
| So I don't think a man with a high body count is obliged to, they have to only date women with high body counts. | |
| If he can find a girl with a low body count and she wants to date him and he wants to date her, well, that's two consenting individuals. | |
| I don't think there's anything wrong with that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| No, I think it might, if he's like, there could be some degree of hypocrisy insofar as I think he's told a man with a high body count would be perfectly entitled to prefer a woman and date a woman with a low body count. | |
| Now, if he's like women with high body counts and he's like, this is an open judgment, women with high body counts are fucking trash. | |
| That would be hypocritical. | |
| But I don't think it's hypocritical for you to have a high body count and realize that you don't want to date somebody with a high body count. | |
| Yeah, no, I would agree with that. | |
| Preferences are your preferences. | |
| Everybody's entitled to their own thing. | |
| I just feel like it's more acceptable for guys to have a higher one. | |
| Yeah, I agree with that. | |
| And then expect for women to not at all. | |
| However, women can also, I mean, most women, I feel like, would agree with that and know that. | |
| But I mean, women can also lie about it all the time. | |
| And how are you going to know? | |
| You know, I feel like women are always lying about their body count. | |
| So like, what is the difference, really? | |
| Wait, you could be like, like, a girl could be like, I have a body count of three. | |
| And really, she's had 20, but how are you going to know? | |
| So what is the matter? | |
| Like, why? | |
| With lying? | |
| It doesn't matter that much. | |
| I'm not saying you should lie. | |
| I'm just saying that's like a lot of what people do because people know that it matters. | |
| I think body count matters. | |
| I think women just should have lower body counts. | |
| That's just the biological natural difference. | |
| And I remember I told you. | |
| Remember I told you this last time? | |
| I think men biologically are men. | |
| Oh my. | |
| Okay, hold on. | |
| We've got the legend Peyo who just did a raid over on Twitch. | |
| We'll come back to the body count discussion in just a sec. | |
| Nick, could you lower the volume a little bit? | |
| Yo, Pa. | |
| I hope you had a very good stream in. | |
| A little too low, a little too low, I think. | |
| Maybe just a tad, a little bit lower. | |
| Yo, Peyo, I hope you had a good stream, man. | |
| Let me do a shout-out for you overall on our Twitch. | |
| Thank you so much for the raid man, Peyo. | |
| He's a World of Warcraft Giga Chad. | |
| And I really appreciate the Raid Man. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Hope you had a good stream. | |
| I hope you got some good loot in Sunken Temple. | |
| Sunk, excuse me, Sunken Temple. | |
| I saw that you were in a raid there. | |
| I left you a chat earlier on. | |
| So really appreciate it, man. | |
| Thank you, Peyo. | |
| Quick question: Would you guys date a French-Canadian GigaChad World of Warcraft streamer, Twitch streamer, plays World of Warcraft like 50, 60, 70 hours a week, I think? | |
| He backed during like classic, he had Thunder Fury on two rogues, so that's like quite the accomplishment. | |
| Are we gonna pull up his IG? | |
| Or can we actually pull up the keyboard shit? | |
| Let's pull up the keyboard shit on this guy. | |
| So, ladies, would you first off going around the table? | |
| Would you date a gamer? | |
| Yeah, uh, yes. | |
| No, he sounds really cool, though, but not my type. | |
| Not your type? | |
| It depends on the games that he's playing, but I would say generally no, if I'm being stereotypical, wouldn't date a gamer? | |
| Okay, also, generally, no. | |
| Wouldn't date a gamer? | |
| Okay, I would. | |
| You would? | |
| I would, potentially. | |
| All right. | |
| Nick, can you pull up his Instagram really quick? | |
| Just so, like, I think the girls are gonna have a change of heart here after they see this absolute after they see this absolute Giga Chad. | |
| Shout out, Peyo. | |
| Did I do that? | |
| Oh, see, I don't think it's a dude. | |
| It's like Peio with two O's. | |
| Whoa, let's do a little shout out. | |
| So, wait, ladies, like you got it? | |
| All right, so this is holy shit. | |
| Wait, put us on the other side, put us on the other side. | |
| Would you date this guy? | |
| He's a sweetheart, though. | |
| Uh, click that first photo. | |
| What's going on there, Peyo? | |
| What are you doing, bro? | |
| Click that first photo. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Hang over for my 12th hour. | |
| Poggers in the podcast studio. | |
| Okay, nice. | |
| Scroll. | |
| Oh, wait. | |
| Bring it back. | |
| Scroll down. | |
| Scroll down. | |
| Look at this fucking legend. | |
| So, ladies, like anybody like DTF or what? | |
| DTR down to raid. | |
| Anybody? | |
| Down to anybody? | |
| Anybody? | |
| Any take? | |
| What does that mean? | |
| Wait, get the keyboard photo. | |
| The videos? | |
| Do you know what I'm talking about, Nick? | |
| He looks really fun. | |
| What's that? | |
| Oh, wait, pull up Twitch really quick. | |
| Guys, if you're coming here from Peyo, thank you again for the raid, Peyo. | |
| Drop us a follow on Twitch. | |
| We regularly, you know, we talk about World of Warcraft and its implications on dating. | |
| Thank you again for the raid, Peyo. | |
| If you're from Peyo, drop us a little follow in the chat. | |
| A little follow in the chat. | |
| A little prime. | |
| A little Twitch prime in the chat. | |
| Little Twitch Prime in the chat. | |
| Yo, thank you, Peyo. | |
| Really appreciate the raid. | |
| Guys, we talk about like World of Warcraft and the implications of World of Warcraft when it comes to dating, all that shit. | |
| You know, big factor, you know. | |
| What's your guys' favorite loot council? | |
| What's your favorite loot system in World of Warcraft, Brie? | |
| I play Minecraft. | |
| Mine would be the San Francisco loot. | |
| I just don't even know what to say that. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| We do have to move on, though. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| Appreciate it, Peyo. | |
| We can't do that. | |
| We'll do the keyboard. | |
| We'll do the keyboard video next time he raids us. | |
| How about that? | |
| Okay, so where were we? | |
| We were talking about body count. | |
| Body count. | |
| Oh, body count, right? | |
| Biologically, men are meant to have to create as many of their offsprings as possible so it would make sense for them to have a higher body count because a woman can only have one child at a time. | |
| Fish is a little bit or twins. | |
| Okay, however you want to say, but she can't get pregnant with a bunch 100 kids at one time. | |
| But he can get 100 girls pregnant. | |
| And biologically. | |
| Did he manifest a higher body count? | |
| Or are we talking about times that you've had intercourse? | |
| Is that what we're talking about? | |
| No, like you having sex. | |
| So that's what we're talking about with body count? | |
| Yes. | |
| Amount of times that you've had sex. | |
| Yes. | |
| So when you men are meant to do that, men are meant to create as many offspring as possible and just drop their seed as much as possible. | |
| You can't do that with one woman, so it makes sense why you have a higher body count. | |
| Women are meant to take care of kids and nurture kids and take care of the household. | |
| You're supposed to do that biologically. | |
| So it would make sense why women are meant to have lower body counts and why men are meant to have higher body counts. | |
| That's what I agree with you. | |
| Okay. | |
| So wait, what was the disagreement though? | |
| You said not, you said Brian not wanting a woman with a high body count and men. | |
| I just think, I mean, you kind of already hit it. | |
| Just like you can't be hypocritical in my opinion. | |
| Like I just end up being hypocritical about it. | |
| Just don't be. | |
| Okay. | |
| I do think there are differences though. | |
| Like I think promiscuity has a different impact on men and women. | |
| I think they're similar, but it seems to be more pronounced in women than in men. | |
| Like a guy, I don't think the brain damage, not the brain damage, the emotional damage it does is different. | |
| Nickelodeon donated. | |
| Yo, Nickelodeon, thank you. | |
| I appreciate it. | |
| We talk menu in general. | |
| But women are generally interested in top status men. | |
| They constantly have women throwing themselves at them. | |
| Do you think the same logic applies to him or can he be more picky? | |
| Do you think the same logic applies to him or can he be more picky? | |
| No. | |
| Wait. | |
| Biologically, he has achieved what he's supposed to do, which is create as much as possible. | |
| So, see, top percent of men create as much as possible, have higher body counts. | |
| It just makes sense. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I will say, like, a guy who's I think it's impressive in the sense that any woman has the capacity to be a slut, but very few men have the capacity to be a slut. | |
| Any woman could be a slut. | |
| She could be obese. | |
| She could be extremely unattractive. | |
| Any woman. | |
| But typically, in order for like a woman could be unattractive and a slut, it's pretty hard for an unattractive guy to be a slut. | |
| That's what we're saying. | |
| Oh, that's what I'm saying. | |
| And that's why there's a difference there. | |
| Top percent of men have higher body counts, and that's just natural. | |
| It's normal. | |
| It's just biologically how things are and how it's always been. | |
| We'll put it this way: it's very easy to be a female slut. | |
| It's very hard to be a male slut. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Shizzle. | |
| Yeah. | |
| My nizzle. | |
| All right. | |
| We have golden gopher, golden gopher. | |
| 24-year-old, never been on a date, works six days a week making over six figures, don't smoke or drink. | |
| Non-practicing Christian, what should I do to be noticed? | |
| Slash find the one. | |
| Dating apps are no luck. | |
| You're missing one of the three pillars. | |
| Spiritual, physical, or financial. | |
| Financial, you got to up your game, get more money, save more money. | |
| He's never been on a dating app, works six days a week making over six figures, doesn't joke, doesn't drink. | |
| You sound shy. | |
| You got an Instagram, bro. | |
| We'll do an Instagram review on you. | |
| You know, I guess. | |
| You just have to be more outgoing, probably. | |
| Make the first move, which I think approaching a girl would actually make him different. | |
| You know, if you go out and actually go up to a girl and ask her on a date, I think that would make you extremely more attractive than anybody on a dating app. | |
| It's also a matter like if you're conventionally attractive, you have to make yourself more attractive, go to the gym, be healthy. | |
| I agree. | |
| Take care of yourself, groom yourself, take a shower. | |
| Like, if you go up stinky, fat, no one's going to want you. | |
| Actually, I think perhaps, so Golden Gopher, your first mistake here, I think, is your view, your frame here. | |
| What should I do to be noticed? | |
| Now, men can be noticed, but unless you have some degree of status, You're gonna have to be the pursuer. | |
| So, there's very it's very rare for like a normal average guy without status to ever be the one who's noticed. | |
| In other words, to be the pursued. | |
| Women typically don't do the pursuing. | |
| They don't initiate when it comes to dating typically. | |
| Sometimes women will be like snipers. | |
| Like, if there's one guy, they will zero in. | |
| And even then, they'll still do like token initiative. | |
| They'll make eye contact with him. | |
| But some girls will approach, like, but it's like a sniper. | |
| The guy has to be super attractive, you know, whatever, whatever. | |
| But you're going to have to make the first move, man. | |
| You're going to have to take initiative. | |
| You're going to have to. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I think your frame of view here is, what should I do to be noticed? | |
| Don't think that way. | |
| Just you notice the woman and pursue the women that you notice. | |
| Don't be noticed. | |
| He's setting you up. | |
| You notice. | |
| How about that? | |
| He's setting you up for failure with that one. | |
| No, you want to become noticeable. | |
| Obviously, yes, so make yourself better so women will start noticing you. | |
| Just become that. | |
| Just become top 1%. | |
| Yeah, it's dangerous. | |
| Easy, easy, bro. | |
| Just become top 1%. | |
| Don't pursue. | |
| But what are you waiting for? | |
| Don't pursue women. | |
| In reality, in animal kingdoms, the women fight over the men. | |
| What? | |
| That's how it should be. | |
| Exactly. | |
| The woman should be fighting over the men. | |
| This is so obvious. | |
| So if you want to do that, you have to become that alpha male. | |
| She's not totally wrong. | |
| She's not totally wrong, but the reality is most men aren't going to become rock stars. | |
| They're not going to be movies. | |
| Why can't they become alpha males? | |
| I don't think you change your mind. | |
| I don't think you realize how difficult it is for men in the modern day. | |
| Just be alpha. | |
| Just be confident. | |
| This guy says he's 24 years old. | |
| He's making over 100K. | |
| What did he say? | |
| He's like a good looking. | |
| I didn't really read the recording. | |
| Six days a week, makes over 60K, doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, but he's never been on a date. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So this guy's obviously doing okay. | |
| I'd imagine he probably works in a male-dominated industry, doesn't really get to see girls much. | |
| What I would say is try and get yourself into some circles, whether you said you're not practicing Christian, try and get yourself into a church where there's other girls there. | |
| Try and get yourself into some social circles. | |
| Doesn't sound like you have too much of a social life. | |
| If you try and get yourself into some social circles, meet people where you live, that will really help you. | |
| Because oftentimes on dating apps, if you are just a regular average guy, which it sort of sounds like you would appear on a dating app, you're going to get no love whatsoever. | |
| So it's a jungle out there. | |
| You've got to get out in person, go meet people. | |
| Go to a library and find like a semi-nerdy Asian girl. | |
| Gotcha. | |
| Libraries are great for it. | |
| I've done that heaps of times. | |
| Wait, where? | |
| Libraries. | |
| Libraries. | |
| Libraries are amazing for it. | |
| Just be confident in yourself. | |
| You have the confidence. | |
| Just be confident. | |
| No, I'm saying, if you walk in somewhere thinking I'm the shit, you're going to believe you're the shit. | |
| This is the problem, though. | |
| The girls don't realize. | |
| I'm not thinking, oh, no girl's looking at me. | |
| Oh, no, I look like a loser. | |
| This is why dating these days is like a humiliation ritual for young men. | |
| And you wouldn't even have the first clue about it because you're a girl and you don't do it. | |
| But if a guy is not confident enough, it's like, be that guy, be that guy, be that 1% guy. | |
| But then if he comes in the room and he's really super confident and cocky, everyone's like, oh, ick. | |
| He's going to be super confident. | |
| They have to walk that fine line between confident and not too cocky. | |
| And they want all of this, but that's a bit too much. | |
| There is a fine line between confidence and cocky. | |
| You need to know what that is. | |
| Yeah, so you just need to figure that tightrope out and walk it. | |
| And how do you think you do that? | |
| You do that through years and years and years of experience. | |
| And then girls say, oh, well, why does he have a high body count? | |
| Well, because in this modern world, it's so difficult to date. | |
| And guys need to have years and years and years of experience with women to be able to reverse all of the 300 things that you guys want. | |
| And a smart woman will know that a man having a high body count is normal and it's not unnatural. | |
| And it's actually pretty natural. | |
| So find out. | |
| I would say it's a big problem because I don't condone people having a high body count. | |
| I wish it weren't that way. | |
| But I can understand from the secular dating perspective why guys tend to have higher body counts now. | |
| I don't think that's ideal, but I can understand when that's the messaging, especially in the red pill space. | |
| As a result, is that guys should have a higher body count. | |
| What you're saying is what you're saying isn't relevant to most guys because most guys don't rack up big body counts and just plant their seed everywhere. | |
| What you're talking about is sultans and kings from the past. | |
| And Genghis Khan, who's gone out and pillaged places and planted his seed everywhere. | |
| That's not most guys. | |
| Most guys throughout history haven't reproduced. | |
| Only 40% of men have reproduced right now. | |
| Okay, I'm going to ask you why. | |
| What is stopping you from becoming that king, from becoming that 1%, from becoming that man? | |
| What is stopping you? | |
| Okay, so what would be stopping a man from becoming a king? | |
| Okay, first of all, kings are normally autocracies, so that's a genetic bloodline. | |
| I'm not talking about a literal king. | |
| Okay, so Saturday. | |
| Okay, so a kang, like a king of king. | |
| Yeah, like from an alpha male. | |
| Okay. | |
| What stops you from being that kid? | |
| Okay, so once again, genetically, most guys are not six foot five. | |
| Okay, I'm not six foot five. | |
| I'm bang on six foot. | |
| Some people call me five, eleven and a half. | |
| They're lying. | |
| Okay, six foot. | |
| Most guys aren't that tall. | |
| Most guys aren't that good looking. | |
| Most guys don't have an aptitude towards some sort of intellectual pursuit. | |
| Okay, there's a lot of biological factors. | |
| Most guys aren't born into rich families. | |
| A lot of guys have tough upbringings and they don't find their feet till later in life. | |
| It's more complicated than that. | |
| And besides that, even if your logic were to apply, there can still only be a 1%. | |
| So regardless of what the 1% looks like, or regardless of how much the block moves up as a whole, girls are still going to look at that top 1%. | |
| I'm just saying it is possible to do that. | |
| This is going to be very quick, but I came from a really rough background. | |
| I came from Panama, third world country, literal consumption. | |
| You're a pretty girl. | |
| It doesn't apply to you. | |
| I wasn't always pretty. | |
| I was bullied in middle school and high school for not being pretty. | |
| A lot of things went where I wasn't supposed to get to where I'm at. | |
| I was able to come to America. | |
| I was able to make my money. | |
| I have enough money to take care of myself for a long time. | |
| I'm good. | |
| I came from the absolute what you don't expect to get out of. | |
| I came from the third world country. | |
| I came from having nothing. | |
| I came from not being attractive. | |
| And if I'm able to do that, conventionally attractive, because people are going to be like, I don't think she's that pretty, conventionally attractive. | |
| If I could come out and do that, anybody could do it. | |
| First of all, I would say, and I'm not trying to berate you, but I would say that you're at life where you're at right now. | |
| Congratulations on getting out of Panama, but you're still showing your body on the internet. | |
| I would say you're not aspirational for young women. | |
| And when we're talking about men, it's a very different thing. | |
| So you, being a female, you live a very different life experience. | |
| So when you try and tell men that you went to Arizona or wherever you are. | |
| Alaska. | |
| You went to Alaska and now you're going to come out and teach everyone how to be a Kang, okay? | |
| It doesn't really add up. | |
| Because first of all, you haven't lived life as a man. | |
| You haven't conquered like men have to conquer. | |
| I have 100,000 followers on Instagram. | |
| I talk to them. | |
| I DM them. | |
| I listen to their stories. | |
| They come to me with their problems. | |
| They're like, Brie, this girl doesn't like me. | |
| Brie, I don't know what to do. | |
| I'm such a loser. | |
| I don't know what. | |
| I hear all their stories and I'm like, there's ways to change this. | |
| Like, the problem actually starts within yourself. | |
| There's ways to change this. | |
| You calling yourself a loser and thinking that you don't deserve anything is the start of why you're a loser and why you think you don't deserve anything. | |
| If you think, hey, I am someone who deserves something, you're going to start believing that power manifestation. | |
| That's all I'm saying. | |
| You can become that 1%. | |
| If anyone else could do it, then you could do it too. | |
| That's why we have free will. | |
| That's why we're on this world and that's why we could do whatever we want. | |
| Look, you're not wrong that having a positive mentality about yourself and having aspirations is definitely something that you can do. | |
| Not just the mentality. | |
| Like I said, I'm going to talk for a second. | |
| Like you said, you're not wrong about having that good mentality. | |
| And whatever you call manifesting, I wouldn't really use that word, but I'd say you want to set goals as a man. | |
| But when you set goals as a man, it's very, very difficult to actually achieve those goals. | |
| And when we talk about the 1%, no matter what, we're always going to be talking about the 1%. | |
| Do you understand that the 1% always exists? | |
| Yeah. | |
| So not everyone can cram into that little 1%. | |
| Well, you should at least aspire to be that. | |
| You shouldn't be comfortable. | |
| I think being comfortable is a man's worst enemy. | |
| Being comfortable with where you're at or thinking, oh, it's okay that I'm not that is your first problem. | |
| You should at least aspire to be that. | |
| No, not everyone could be the top 1%, but you should at least want to do that. | |
| And the closer you get to that 1%, the more stuff that you're going to get. | |
| But do you understand that that's largely unattainable for the vast, vast majority of men? | |
| You do understand. | |
| If you're 5'4, born in Liberia, and you're working in a cobalt mind, you think that it's pretty possible for you to get to that 1%? | |
| Would you say just manifest it? | |
| There is a way to get out of anything. | |
| I'll say that. | |
| If I could get out what I got out of, anybody could get out of anything. | |
| Okay, so once again, let me just reiterate to you. | |
| And when I start talking, I'm going to finish my point. | |
| So once again, what I'd like to say is that for the female perspective, it's very different. | |
| What a man and a woman, if you're a pretty young lady in the 21st century living in a Western country, you're not only the luckiest person to be alive right now, you have the best life out of anyone that has ever existed ever. | |
| If you're a pretty young girl that lives in a Western country, you have to do jack shit. | |
| You don't realize all of the infrastructure that goes into your roads and underneath all of the roads. | |
| You think that when you flush your toilet, it just goes and it's gone. | |
| No, what if you're talking about something else? | |
| Now you're talking about something else. | |
| I agree with that. | |
| Being pretty and living in America and just it kind of all just. | |
| You put your bum on Instagram and it's just yeah, it just kind of handed to you. | |
| But I didn't get to that point just by being born at one years old and I was already already had everything and already was given everything. | |
| No. | |
| So if I could do it and I was bullied in high school for being ugly, so if I could become conventionally attractive, non-attractive to everybody before the comments go crazy and lose their shit. | |
| Wait. | |
| Wait, this is like breaking news. | |
| So you said you had it rough in Panama? | |
| Yes. | |
| Dude, I have somebody fucking DMing me. | |
| So you know the Panama Canal, right? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Like your family owns that shit. | |
| Don't fuck, don't lie to me. | |
| Bro, this chick is a billionaire. | |
| Like you're an heiress, dude. | |
| You know how much money goes through the Panama Canal just to be a fucking boat that goes through that shit? | |
| You got to pay tens of thousands of dollars or some shit, bro. | |
| Be honest. | |
| Tell the fucking truth. | |
| Your family owns the Panama Canal, doesn't it? | |
| I wouldn't be sitting there. | |
| Bro, I got like a 20 Panamanians in my DM saying, yo, that chick, she's from Panamanian fucking royalty. | |
| You're going to sit here, bro. | |
| Be honest. | |
| You had that pampered Panama Panama shit. | |
| I came from a freaking shipping container in the slums of Panama. | |
| I had zero dollars. | |
| At 16, my mom kicked me out. | |
| If you watched the video that you brought up last time, the software underbelly video, though, yeah, if you watched it, you would know. | |
| Bro, because I talked about the whole thing. | |
| I got 20 Panamanian nationals telling me, bro, your family is involved with the Panama Canal. | |
| You guys own that shit. | |
| You're like, you're plugged in, bro. | |
| Okay, forget that. | |
| See, she doesn't even want to address it. | |
| She doesn't even want to address it. | |
| What I'm saying is, I never had it. | |
| I not always had this. | |
| Yeah, I was kidding. | |
| I was 16. | |
| All the odds were against me. | |
| And if I was able to pull out of that, then anyone can pull out of that. | |
| I'm not diminishing your life experience, and I'm sure you've had a tough time, and everybody has their own things, but also there are certain advantages that you just can't look past in life. | |
| And being a pretty young lady, which obviously you have some sort of a disposition to be pretty to be reasonably pretty, and you got a few surgeries, and now you are sort of what people would look at as somewhat of a fetish online, I guess. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So it doesn't seem like the most difficult thing. | |
| It looks like that. | |
| I wasn't 10 years old looking like that when I was starving in Panama. | |
| So I obviously had to make it out somehow. | |
| How did you get it? | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| I was a waitress. | |
| How did you fly? | |
| I was a waitress in the future. | |
| Did you fly from Panama? | |
| Yeah, I flew from Panama. | |
| So you didn't have to go cross the southern border or anything? | |
| No. | |
| I came on a tourist visa and then I figured my way of getting into college so I could get a student visa and then now I'm able to get a green card. | |
| Well congratulations. | |
| I mean it is a nice story. | |
| I think there are some objections I've had about I would have about if I could do it literally anyone. | |
| It's good that you're not in Panama living in poverty anymore if that is your story. | |
| I'm just saying I can help men because I have the resources. | |
| I don't think you can help men. | |
| I think that's where that's where you cross a line. | |
| I can help men help themselves. | |
| She can help them. | |
| I can teach them that they are able to get something out of themselves. | |
| They can't be miserable laying in bed crying and thinking miserable and visible. | |
| Can I ask you, if you weren't doing, what work are you doing at the moment? | |
| Right now, I don't do OnlyFans anymore. | |
| Okay, then what do you do for money? | |
| You don't want to disclose that right now? | |
| What do I do for money? | |
| Well, right now, I have enough money that I don't have to do anything. | |
| Luckily, I have gotten to that point. | |
| But before I've had regular jobs, I was a church camp counselor. | |
| I was a waitress. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And if you didn't do, obviously, OF was something that gave you a financial, like it picked you up financially. | |
| You're able to give you all these things, like the surgeries that you've gotten. | |
| You're able to have a bit of cash in your pocket. | |
| If you weren't doing that, what would be the thing that would make you the aspirational person that you claim to be? | |
| What would I have done? | |
| What would be the thing that you would do if it wasn't anything to do with your looks? | |
| With my life. | |
| What would you bring to the world that would make you an aspirational person that people would look up to and think I should follow? | |
| Well, that's what I realize now. | |
| I realize OnlyFans was great to get me out of the situation I was in. | |
| That's great. | |
| But I can't do that forever, and it's not something I want to do forever, which is why now I want to help people. | |
| It's good to realize, by the way, that you shouldn't do that forever. | |
| That's good. | |
| But what is the thing that you would do now that you could? | |
| I'm going to help people. | |
| What I just said, I'm going to help men. | |
| But you haven't actually been able to outline how you're going to do that, though. | |
| You've kind of just given a bit of like a Tony Robbins talk. | |
| Just honestly, for the sake of the conversation, I have to move things forward. | |
| We have, let me do two chats. | |
| We have kill of cereal. | |
| Pick 6'1, 180k a year. | |
| So this is for the ladies. | |
| You're going to pick between two men. | |
| $180k a year, fit, eight-inch PP, but has a horrible world outlook and the negative attitude in general. | |
| Or four foot two, 30k a year, chubby. | |
| Did I say 5'2? | |
| Yeah, 5'2 is a bit more. | |
| Oh, my bad, my bad. | |
| He has, I'll pull it up, 4-inch PP, but he has a positive outlook and oozes confidence and swagger. | |
| Which one do you pick? | |
| You have to pick one. | |
| Yeah, I'm choosing a 5'2. | |
| I can't ever be with someone with a negative attitude. | |
| It's all about their mind. | |
| Beautiful. | |
| I could never choose that. | |
| That's great. | |
| I would choose the second one. | |
| I would also choose the second one. | |
| I think I would choose the first one because, you know, I think men have the potential to have a positive attitude and to grow. | |
| But you can't fix the other shit. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You know, the short, small peepee. | |
| You can't change it. | |
| You can't change it. | |
| All right. | |
| I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you, though. | |
| Did you want to add more? | |
| That was pretty much my question. | |
| I would go with the second. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, I would go with the second. | |
| I admittedly go with the first. | |
| I have a very positive outlook on life. | |
| I can make him positive. | |
| So you'll make up for it in the relationship. | |
| Like, you'll balance it out a bit. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm the positive one anyway, so I need someone to be aware of that. | |
| I mean, is that the only downside that he has a negative attitude? | |
| That could be pretty big, though, right? | |
| That would be miserable. | |
| Horrible world outlook. | |
| You know? | |
| Literally complaining a lot. | |
| I'd be miserable. | |
| We have a chat here from Golden Gopher. | |
| All assumptions are spot on, Jake. | |
| Oh, are we pulling? | |
| Oh, we did say we'd pull it up. | |
| So, Insta, Nick, if you're able to find that, I can, if you want, I can copy and paste it for you. | |
| If that's easier. | |
| 510, 225. | |
| Are you ripped? | |
| Family business managing 40 men ages 18 to 55 is a Stanley Steamer franchisee. | |
| I have a twin sister, and most girls I know are her friends. | |
| Okay. | |
| Nick, I'm going to send that to you in just a sec. | |
| While we're doing that, yo, John Boy, thank you for the prime over there. | |
| I think that was a prime over on Twitch. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Oh, wait. | |
| Hold on, bro. | |
| Did I add an extra period in there? | |
| Okay, I see what I did. | |
| Wait, bro. | |
| Jake, hold on. | |
| Before I put, I don't want to pull up somebody else's Instagram. | |
| Like, there's a period. | |
| There's too many underscores and periods in here. | |
| Is the period at the end? | |
| Is there supposed to be a period at the end? | |
| Is it just a picture of you like a dog? | |
| Is that your profile pro? | |
| I'm not going to pull up somebody. | |
| You have to, like. | |
| Confirm. | |
| Bro, bro, DM, just DM me on Instagram. | |
| DM me on Instagram. | |
| I'll look in my request folder and we'll get that pull up in just a sec. | |
| Okay. | |
| KJ, your final thing here for our pre-show notes. | |
| You also disagree with me not believing in marriage. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Sorry. | |
| I'm like blanking on what even I said on that. | |
| I'm so sorry. | |
| No, that's all you said. | |
| You just said I saw eclipse and now I'm blanking on what even it was. | |
| Okay. | |
| To be completely honest. | |
| Well, I can just restate my position. | |
| So I don't object to marriage from a religious perspective, but if you're secular, for example, I actually don't see any point for getting married for getting married. | |
| And even for religious people, I actually don't see any benefit for religious people outside of the religious tradition of it. | |
| Why? | |
| Which I respect, but I just, there's actually no non-religious benefits to getting married. | |
| I suppose some people say, well, there's certain tax benefits, which is true, but they don't, I don't think those outweigh the negatives. | |
| So what do you think the negatives are? | |
| Well, it's a scam. | |
| It's targeted to explain. | |
| Well, there's a couple components here. | |
| So a lot of women want to get married, but they don't want to be wives. | |
| So what that means is you'll have, and I'm going to list a whole bunch of things. | |
| You'll have women who want you to spend three months' salary on a ring that really costs $100, but you're going to spend five figures on it. | |
| The diamond industry is an absolute scam. | |
| So it's a waste of money. | |
| Secondly, it's kind of like lame as fuck to get down on one knee and like beg a woman to do anything. | |
| So that's weird. | |
| And then secondly, or thirdly, I guess, the wedding itself can be very expensive. | |
| And that kind of ties into number one. | |
| Like you want the ceremony. | |
| You want the day. | |
| You want your attention. | |
| But are a lot of women prepared to actually be wives? | |
| It's not clear if they are. | |
| So to me, that's just a waste of money to do this big ceremony, spend tens of thousands. | |
| Some people spend hundreds of six figures on a wedding. | |
| That's a massive waste of money. | |
| If I'm looking to put my family in the best position I can possibly put it in, I'd much rather put that money into buying a better house, having another car, putting my kids through the best potential. | |
| Why am I going to spend 50K on this thing? | |
| That's a one-day event. | |
| That's ridiculous. | |
| I was about to say the R word. | |
| And okay, can I say something? | |
| Sure. | |
| Yeah, you're what you're waiting for. | |
| So I agree with that, but it sounds like you're. | |
| Well, sorry. | |
| It sounds like you're against the wedding, not the marriage. | |
| Well, okay. | |
| So that was. | |
| Because you don't have to do all of those things to get married. | |
| You can go to the courthouse and just get married. | |
| I agree with you, but I would argue most women do want those things. | |
| And if they don't, then yes, it gets rid of those criticisms that I have. | |
| However, my bigger criticism actually is not the ring. | |
| It's not the actual ceremony. | |
| Although I think those are valid criticisms, especially if you're not religious. | |
| It's the ramifications of divorce. | |
| So, and we talked about this earlier: men or women are overwhelmingly initiating divorces. | |
| Something like 80% of divorces are initiated by women. | |
| So there's that. | |
| And then just the financial impact of divorce. | |
| And then, you know, community property, alimony. | |
| That's especially if you're a breadwinner and you're a high earner, it's very ill-advised as a man to get married. | |
| What I would say is if you're thinking about all of those things going into marriage, Jess Gerald donated $200. | |
| If any of these women want one week of 12-hour shifts on a construction site, they might actually appreciate the thousands of invisible men who make their Koshi lives possible. | |
| 100%. | |
| Agree. | |
| Oh, wait, really quick. | |
| We will come back to the marriage thing. | |
| Nick, I have a video that I wanted to. | |
| Someone, two people sent me via Instagram. | |
| This, bro, just pull up the video. | |
| It's a YouTube video. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It's like a. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So this is men dangerous jobs. | |
| There's this, oh, the wage gap, blah, blah, blah. | |
| Bro, women are not willing to do this kind of work that's frankly going to pay fairly well. | |
| Although there's a whole bunch of the wage gap is a myth, but play it, Nick. | |
| 200, 200. | |
| I'm going to have you use the arrows to skip forward five seconds. | |
| Okay, there's a helicopter. | |
| Skip. | |
| Can you skip? | |
| Yep. | |
| Again? | |
| Yeah, it's pretty much it. | |
| Keep going. | |
| I could be like, keep going, keep going. | |
| It's a long video. | |
| Can you mute the audio? | |
| It's not necessary at this point. | |
| Move forward. | |
| Is this fucking helicopter going to take off? | |
| What the fuck? | |
| God damn. | |
| Okay, there it is. | |
| It's taking off. | |
| Hold on one sec. | |
| Okay, there's probably a man in the helicopter. | |
| No offense, ladies. | |
| The helicopter is forward a bit. | |
| Helicopter's taking off. | |
| Forward a bit. | |
| Come on, helicopter. | |
| Let's go. | |
| There we go. | |
| All right. | |
| And it's they're stacking a tower forward, forward, forward. | |
| Wait. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Why is it showing that? | |
| It's a 7 minutes. | |
| Can you reload the video? | |
| Yeah, it didn't finish. | |
| That's really weird. | |
| Just refresh the video. | |
| Really? | |
| Yeah, just refreshed it. | |
| Pull it up one more time. | |
| Go to the like 15 or 30 seconds before the end. | |
| Go, can you? | |
| Are you able to zoom past it won't let you go? | |
| Oh, that's so weird. | |
| That is very weird. | |
| Okay, anyways, that's unfortunate. | |
| I don't know why that is. | |
| They're stacking a tower. | |
| And so, Jess Gerald's points here is like no, it's absolutely right. | |
| And these are the jobs that have to get done that nobody really sees. | |
| Like, these are the guys who are, I mean, my whole family are builders. | |
| My older brother is a builder. | |
| My uncle, my grandpa, they're all builders. | |
| And they are so much more alpha and Chad than me. | |
| And like, they go to work every single day and break their backs. | |
| And they have this thing that they call sight cancer. | |
| And it means that if anybody ever complains and if anybody ever wants to lift a lesser load on site, where like they'll call it site cancer because if it rubs off on one person, then the next person, the next person. | |
| So they have this fortified mentality amongst these building groups where nobody can slack off. | |
| Everybody has to lift their load. | |
| So you can imagine these guys break their backs day in and day out. | |
| And nobody really sees that stuff. | |
| But that is the infrastructure that builds the world you guys live in. | |
| Well, those are the real alpha males. | |
| Yeah, but these are the guys who earn 60, 70K, who you would say just be a king. | |
| The dangerous jobs like that, blue-collar jobs? | |
| Yeah, yeah, they can earn more, but there are also a lot of guys who aren't earning great money. | |
| They make a lot of money, probably way more than a million dollars. | |
| How much do you think that these guys earn? | |
| Well, my dad, well, okay, he got his alpha, but he is a truck driver. | |
| That is a shitty job that no one really wants to do, but he makes over 60%. | |
| Someone's got to do it, don't they? | |
| Yeah. | |
| So someone's got to stay outside of the business. | |
| I think that is an alpha male, someone who is doing those manly things. | |
| But I thought you said they had got to be 1%. | |
| What is wrong? | |
| You can be 1%. | |
| What's wrong with the guy who just drives you? | |
| You can be a 1% and 5 figures. | |
| Yeah, my dad makes six figures a year. | |
| That's not 1%. | |
| Well, I'm not saying billionaire. | |
| I'm not saying I'm only looking at the billionaires. | |
| I'm not talking about how much money you have or how fit you are. | |
| I'm talking about how you look at yourself and how you are as fine. | |
| So being top 1% now and the things that you've been saying all night about how you should just become a king is actually your self-perception. | |
| Yeah, it's not about like, I'm not going to go out and date the richest guy, Jeff Bates. | |
| So you think that all of the girls are going to be able to do that? | |
| Do you think that the girls are all chasing the guys who have the best self-perception? | |
| Huh? | |
| Do you think the girls are all chasing the guys with the top 1% self-perception? | |
| They aspire to be more than they currently are. | |
| Yes, girls are going to see that, and that is what girls are attracted to. | |
| Girls are going to be attracted to a manly man who could provide for the house. | |
| And someone who is working a blue-collar job can do that because they make good money because they're doing the dangerous jobs that no one wants to do. | |
| So, yes, a woman will be attracted to the business. | |
| I agree with you that a woman is attracted to ambition, that's for sure. | |
| But what you were talking about before is you were saying, why can't a guy just become a top 1% guy? | |
| And why can't he just do all these things? | |
| And I'm going to teach men how to become a top 1% guy. | |
| That's essentially what you were saying. | |
| What I'm saying is that most guys don't have the type of, hold on a second, I'm saying most guys don't have the type of aptitude to become a 1% man. | |
| Most guys are very inclined, for example, to work with their hands. | |
| You had Andrew Wilson on the podcast, who's an industrial, industrial robotics engineer, robotics engineer. | |
| I never said that. | |
| Those guys are very, very handy, and that's a very, very difficult job. | |
| Jess Gerald donated $200. | |
| The average infrastructure and construction worker makes 50, 70K on average. | |
| You know, those bums who don't deserve you. | |
| Yo, Jessica, thank you, man. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Nick, go into the private chat. | |
| I found the helicopter video. | |
| We'll pull it up really quick if you can. | |
| Get that going. | |
| I don't think we need audio on it, really. | |
| Yo, Jessica, thank you, man. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Also, the Instagram guy who, Golden Gopher, I didn't get a DM from you on the whatever. | |
| Sorry, I should have clarified. | |
| DM.out whatever page. | |
| I don't see anything yet. | |
| Nick, if you could pull it up. | |
| Okay, so this is what I was trying to scroll up a little bit, please. | |
| Oh, you mean it's gonna? | |
| No, Oh my god. | |
| And then scroll up. | |
| Like. | |
| Wait, now it just did it. | |
| Restart the video? | |
| Yeah, I restarted the video. | |
| Okay. | |
| Helicopter cell tower stacking, also known as helistacking. | |
| Can you make it one bigger, please? | |
| It was. | |
| All right. | |
| Helicopter cell tower stacking, also known as helistacking or aerial cell tower installation. | |
| Imagine your hand getting crushed in between the, is a specialized technique used in the telecommunications industry to install or maintain cellular communication infrastructure in remote or hard-to-reach locations. | |
| This method involves deploying multiple helicopters in a coordinated operation to stack prefabricated sections of cell towers on top of each other, ultimately erecting a fully functional cellular tower. | |
| I mean, I'm pretty sure every single one of those people on there is a man. | |
| I don't think a lot of women want that job, even if it was well-paying. | |
| So interesting in it. | |
| I think I would rather date a guy that has that job than a multi-millionaire with daddy's money that doesn't do anything with himself. | |
| Anyways, we're going to bring it, or let me read this chat here. | |
| We have David Treziak watching at the pool hall on my phone. | |
| Be nice to Brie. | |
| No way she's a billionaire. | |
| As much as Ursula speaks Japanese, Arigato, Kamishiwa, want to hear more from Brunette in pink. | |
| Okay, yeah, we'll get there. | |
| We'll get there. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| So, KJ, you were saying something on the marriage thing. | |
| Oh, I was saying if you're going into marriage thinking of divorce, then you shouldn't be getting married is what I would say. | |
| You should go into marriage thinking that you found your person that you love. | |
| You're going to commit to them for the rest of your life. | |
| You respect them. | |
| You're not going to put yourself into situations where anything can happen with another person, you know? | |
| Like, I think that if you're going in with those doubts of, like, oh, it's probably going to end in divorce, then you're probably with the wrong person. | |
| Well, if a high proportion of marriages end in divorce, I mean, wouldn't it be the prudent thing to, you know, have a full understanding of the potential ramifications of, hey, what if this doesn't work? | |
| I think a lot of the people that... | |
| So you should just go in blindly? | |
| But I think that you should go in not really thinking that divorce is an option. | |
| I think you should, I mean, a lot of... | |
| Do you think that's prevented people from getting divorced? | |
| Yeah, I do. | |
| I think that a lot of marriages... | |
| So you think all people who've been divorced knew going in they would get divorced? | |
| No, I'm not. | |
| I'm not saying that, but I think that, obviously, there's so many different reasons people get divorced. | |
| But I think a lot of people do go in with that thought, that it's like, oh, well, if it doesn't work out or we have all of these arguments, we can always get divorced. | |
| It's totally okay. | |
| And I think that that's a bad option. | |
| I feel like most people have that thought right before they get married, though, because it is a very, very big commitment. | |
| And I can understand why Brian doesn't believe in it. | |
| Because if the love is strong enough, you don't really need a piece of paper. | |
| But unless you're religious, you know, you do you. | |
| Right. | |
| Actually, that's a very good argument she makes. | |
| Why can't, if we love each other so much, why need to even get divorced? | |
| If our love is so strong, we'll just if our love is so strong, why even get married? | |
| We don't need to get married. | |
| I think it's good to have it on a piece of paper, to be completely honest. | |
| It's like any reason you would sign a contract. | |
| It binds you into it. | |
| Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. | |
| Why not be binded into it? | |
| If you love them so much, then why not? | |
| But why isn't the love of it? | |
| But it doesn't bind you. | |
| I don't think, I'm a little confused here. | |
| Why? | |
| It doesn't bind you because you, at any, let me ask you a question. | |
| In the United States or any Western country, let's say there's no abuse. | |
| Let's say there's no infidelity. | |
| Let's say your husband treats you perfectly, but you're just vaguely unhappy, but he's a wonderful husband. | |
| Would the woman in that scenario be able to divorce her husband if she was so inclined? | |
| Could she at any point in the marriage, without any sort of abuse from the husband, without any infidelity, he's a wonderful husband, takes care of the kids, provide her everything, but she's just vaguely unhappy. | |
| Does she at any point reserve the right to end the relationship, end the marriage at any point? | |
| So then it binds your assets unless you're signing a prenup. | |
| It binds. | |
| Let's say he's the breadwinner too in this situation. | |
| Perfect husband. | |
| No abuse. | |
| No infidelity. | |
| And he's the breadwinner. | |
| And she reserves the right at any point in that marriage to end it. | |
| It seems like a really bad negative outcome for the man, doesn't it? | |
| Yeah, I mean, it does sound like an awful outcome for the man. | |
| Okay, so, but how is it binding her to the marriage? | |
| You said there's a contract, right? | |
| But you said that, you also said at any point, she reserves the right to leave the marriage for whatever reason. | |
| Yeah. | |
| How is it binding? | |
| It's a really good thing. | |
| So it binds him to get fucked. | |
| Yeah, I think... | |
| So it's not binding her to stay in the marriage. | |
| Okay, yeah. | |
| Sorry. | |
| I misworded it. | |
| It binds your assets is what I think. | |
| That sounds terrible, doesn't it? | |
| I mean, no. | |
| It doesn't. | |
| Good deal for a woman. | |
| But, okay, you're going to go in with a person that you love. | |
| And honestly, if it is a relationship that ends and there's not really a reason and they just fell out of love, you know, it's you guys have to do that. | |
| Is that a good reason? | |
| Is that a good reason to go to divorce? | |
| I think that's a pretty awful reason. | |
| I think that you should go to counseling. | |
| I think that you should go and... | |
| Do you think counseling can make you fall back in love with your partner? | |
| I do think it can help you fall back in love with her. | |
| What if it doesn't? | |
| You should get a divorce. | |
| Hold on, answer the question. | |
| Okay. | |
| If you go to counseling and the woman doesn't fall back in love with her husband, but the marriage is otherwise a healthy one. | |
| Doesn't abuse her, doesn't cheat on her, takes care of the kids. | |
| Yes, he's a man get a divorce, yes. | |
| No, no, no, no, that's not. | |
| They can get a divorce. | |
| I'm asking you, should the woman get the divorce? | |
| No, I don't think that you should get the divorce. | |
| She's fallen out of love with him. | |
| She wants to be in love with somebody else. | |
| I think you can fall back in love with her. | |
| What if she doesn't? | |
| If you wanted to. | |
| What if she doesn't? | |
| Well, then they're probably going to get a divorce. | |
| I'm just saying. | |
| Well, what if he doesn't want the divorce? | |
| You're against marriage as a whole. | |
| I think that if you are picking the right person, I think if you're both choosing each other daily, you're not putting yourself in those positions to be falling in love with somebody else. | |
| Like I said at the very beginning. | |
| No, no, I'm not saying that she falls in love with somebody else. | |
| She's no longer in love with her husband. | |
| She's desirous of love, perhaps with somebody else. | |
| Okay, I don't, I mean, as I said, I don't think she should have put herself in a position to be in love with somebody. | |
| No, I'm not saying that. | |
| I do think people fall out of love all the time. | |
| I think marriage is a choice. | |
| I think love is a choice. | |
| I will stand by that. | |
| I think a lot of people fall out of love and they fall out of that feeling. | |
| I think that love is a choice. | |
| I think you choose that person every day. | |
| And if you're both committed to doing that every day, then you're going to have a healthy marriage. | |
| It takes a lot of commitment. | |
| It takes a lot of action. | |
| It takes a lot of sacrifice. | |
| All of these things go into a marriage. | |
| You can definitely fall out of a feeling easily. | |
| I think that a lot of people do in marriages. | |
| It's not going to be based on a feeling. | |
| One day you're going to have a fight. | |
| It's going to end what it's going to end bad. | |
| That's not a cause for a divorce, in my opinion. | |
| I think that it's a dumb reason for a divorce. | |
| Okay, but so of all the people that have ever been divorced, do you think that they went into that marriage thinking that this isn't the person I love and that this isn't the person I want to spend the rest of my life with? | |
| No, I don't think. | |
| I would argue the vast majority of people who get married and eventually get divorced, they think that at the moment. | |
| Can you repeat that? | |
| I'm so sorry. | |
| What? | |
| Well, but okay, so you're saying, well, you probably shouldn't get married then if these are the things that are going through your mind. | |
| But I would argue probably the majority of people who do get married and who regrettably, well, maybe not regrettably, but who do end up getting divorced, I would argue that those thoughts aren't going through their head and that they are thinking, I love this person. | |
| This is the best person I've ever been with. | |
| I want to be with this person for the rest of my life. | |
| Three years later, maybe that's not their outlook on that. | |
| Were they choosing to try every day is what I would ask them first. | |
| It's hard to say. | |
| Well, then I would stand by that. | |
| I think that that is what marriage is. | |
| It's a commitment to trying to be better for each other every day. | |
| It's a 50-50. | |
| You have to keep trying. | |
| It's not based on a feeling. | |
| Can I ask you a question? | |
| Are you religious? | |
| Yes. | |
| Christian? | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| So I certainly concede that there are religious reasons for getting married because, I mean, the religion compels it. | |
| But for, do you think secular people should get married? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| So let's say you have a secular couple, non-religious couple. | |
| Can you explain to me what you can get from a marriage if you're secular that you can't just get from being in the monogamous long-term relationship and having kids? | |
| I think it's just a commitment aspect of it. | |
| Go ahead, continue. | |
| I just think that, like, if you, I don't see why not. | |
| If you love each other first as much as you say you do, why not? | |
| Again, like somebody said, you're going to get taxed, you're going to get tax purposes. | |
| That's a benefit. | |
| So like, what is the point in not doing it? | |
| If you are committing to your life together, why not just do it then? | |
| I see benefits, and you're going to, you're scared of divorce, but whether or not you get married and you end, it's the same. | |
| You just don't have the title. | |
| But I could just reverse this on you and say, well, if you love me enough, we don't have to get married. | |
| So I could use the exact same logic in the reverse. | |
| Okay. | |
| Can I speak? | |
| Go ahead. | |
| From a family member's perspective, so you asked, why would a secular person ever want the desire of marriage? | |
| I think gay marriage has been fought for for so long for this exact reason. | |
| You can build a life with someone. | |
| Sorry, I keep shaking the table. | |
| You can build a life with someone. | |
| And God forbid something happens to you after you've built your life together to one of the partners and family comes in and they have the rights to everything legal assets-wise. | |
| That's happened to my great uncle. | |
| Him and his partner were together for 20 plus years. | |
| He unfortunately passed away of cancer prior to California becoming a legal state where marriage was legal. | |
| And his partner's family came in and had legal assets and rights to everything. | |
| And I know you can say marriage is a business transaction. | |
| I would say that. | |
| It is saying you're committing your life to someone. | |
| It's saying, hey, we're going to go through this together. | |
| I'm Christian. | |
| I can say I have religious reasons for it, but I also say if I'm going to pitch my tent to this person and I'm going to... | |
| Do you support gay marriage? | |
| I think if someone has a right to it, I think that's another thing. | |
| You said you're Christian. | |
| You support marriage as a Christian institution. | |
| Do you support gay marriage? | |
| Let's not linger too long on that. | |
| I'm not saying on that. | |
| I'm just saying the secular argument for that piece. | |
| Because he was asking for a secular argument for it. | |
| Okay. | |
| So what I was saying was for someone else of the person. | |
| Hold on, hold on. | |
| This would be a reason is legally speaking, for the assets that you have in the life that you've built with someone, you could have a family member of your partner coming in and taking everything from you. | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| Okay. | |
| So I'm not an attorney. | |
| I'm not an estate attorney. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So you're saying that if you're not married, that your partner's family would have some claim to your estate. | |
| If the person that passed away did not, the person that passed away, their family has a right to come in and actually petition for all the legal. | |
| Right, but I don't. | |
| It happens a lot, and you can lose everything. | |
| So that's why I'm not an attorney. | |
| I'm not afraid of software for so long. | |
| So I'm just giving you the secular argument. | |
| Hold on for that piece. | |
| Gay marriage is a problem. | |
| Hold on, hold on, hold on. | |
| No, no, no, no. | |
| Let's stick. | |
| Hold on. | |
| I'm not an attorney. | |
| I believe if you draft a will, even if you're not married and you say, I would like to leave my estate or XYZ belongings or this amount of money to my life partner, I don't think marriage, again, bloodlines can petition wills every day all the time. | |
| I've had friends that they do it whether the people are married or not, though. | |
| No, but I'm saying people who have, who are by blood related to you, they actually do have rights and they can petition the will. | |
| And if there is no legal asset, it is something that a lot of people go through. | |
| So for instance, if you have a parent that passed away and you have family that comes out of the woodworks, even though there's a will, people can actually petition that will for it. | |
| So it's one of those things. | |
| I'm just giving the argument for a legal sake of for a secular person. | |
| Okay. | |
| If you were going to do it, you wanted to build it, you just lost the life, even if you just have everything. | |
| The last thing you should want to go through is a legal battle with other people that are coming for the life that you've built with your partner. | |
| Right, but I suppose it could be contested even if you were the will could, or even if there's a lack of will, the estate can be contested whether you're married or not. | |
| Yeah, it's not in terms of. | |
| Well, it's also power of attorney. | |
| If looking at what happens to you and you're now a vegetable, who has the right to say whether or not you live without it? | |
| An advanced health care directive. | |
| If you have a life partner, you can say that this person, I don't know if it's called power of attorney. | |
| You can assign, just like in the marriage, you can assign it to an individual. | |
| In the event, for example, advanced health care directive, in the event of my incapacitation, I wish for Alexa Morgan to be my. | |
| Okay, this is not, I'm not actually doing this. | |
| I wish for her to be my, I'm not actually making an advanced health care directive right now. | |
| Disclaimer. | |
| I wish for her to oversee my all medical decisions. | |
| And I want a DNR. | |
| Do not resuscitate. | |
| Actually, please resuscitate me, but you can just have that. | |
| You don't need a marriage. | |
| It's not a marriage. | |
| That's the thing. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| I go to a website, draft me up an advanced healthcare directive. | |
| Draft me up a will and testament. | |
| Boom. | |
| Done. | |
| Don't get married. | |
| Brian, last time I was on the show, I went on this whole rant about why I was against marriage and why I think it's a financial scam against men. | |
| And I went on this whole rant of why I don't believe in marriage. | |
| And you disagreed with me. | |
| So now I'm kind of in shock that you're sitting here and saying, yeah, you were there like, no, no, no. | |
| You were disagreeing with me. | |
| And now you're sitting here saying the same things I was saying. | |
| What did I disagree with you on? | |
| I was saying that I feel like marriage is a scam. | |
| I think that I didn't disagree. | |
| If you did. | |
| Yes, you were disagreeing with me. | |
| Maybe it was, was there another guy here? | |
| Yeah, there was another guy here, and both of you, well, actually, he was agreeing more with me, but you were disagreeing with me. | |
| And you were saying that, no, that men are meant supposed to be with one woman and get married and all this stuff and how men want it should be one of them. | |
| you said you want to have three husbands no but i said that's what i disagreed with No, I was going on a rant about how marriage is a financial scam against Target. | |
| Nick, have I ever advocated? | |
| Nick, have I ever advocated for marriage? | |
| Well, after this, we're going to pull up the podcast from last night. | |
| I think you're confused. | |
| I'm going to show you where you were disagreeing with me because I'm kind of in shock to hear this. | |
| He's changed completely. | |
| No, bro, you are just confused. | |
| Last time I was saying the same things that he's saying that I'm not. | |
| You're just confused. | |
| Maybe it was the other guy. | |
| No. | |
| I think we need one thing. | |
| Yo. | |
| Brian's Caucasian. | |
| Thank you for the gift at 20 memberships. | |
| I think I know. | |
| I think that's Natalia. | |
| But I was going to ask a quick question. | |
| How could they possibly take your state? | |
| Let's say you guys both buy a house and your names are on the mortgage and everything. | |
| How could they come take your half? | |
| They can't take your house. | |
| They won't take your half. | |
| They'll take your partner's half, the person that is deceased. | |
| Okay, well, that's completely understandable. | |
| It's their family. | |
| Exactly. | |
| They can't take your half. | |
| They can't take your money. | |
| But so what they can do is they can petition that they want to sell the property and now you have to move out of your home because they don't want to pay for that. | |
| You don't have to move out of your home just because they say so. | |
| That is your house just as much as it is. | |
| But it's 50-50. | |
| You don't have 100% right to it. | |
| It's a terrible thing. | |
| Like, I'm not an advocate for it. | |
| I think one of the things I would say is, you know, marriage should be something that people take extremely seriously. | |
| I think people get married on a whim, and that's something, like, I'm a big advocate for premarital counseling. | |
| I think a lot of people should really push limits of their relationship to say, okay, if X, Y, and Z potentially happens in our relationship, how would we handle it? | |
| Are we compatible? | |
| And really, like, go in with someone really trying to push you. | |
| Because, like, life, life is hard. | |
| And there are more, like, I think the biggest mistake people have is thinking that nothing is ever going to happen to you. | |
| And the reality is shit happens. | |
| You have to be ready for it. | |
| You have to be prepared. | |
| And even when you're as prepared as you possibly can be, things will happen in your life that you can't be prepared for. | |
| So the goal is to find a partner that's going to stay in sickness and in health, A, if something happens to you, even if this is not the life that we pictured together, I'm going to stand by you because I'm choosing to do that. | |
| But you could do that. | |
| It's a choice every day. | |
| You could do that without a contract, though. | |
| You could do that without signing the piece of paper. | |
| You could. | |
| But realistically, how many people would stay? | |
| Well, if they weren't going to stay without the piece of paper, then they aren't going to stay with the piece of paper. | |
| That's just their mentality. | |
| Think of it as a deposit on anything that someone, think of it as a deposit anyone someone puts. | |
| If someone is actually invested, if someone puts the time, if someone has to really think about this and make a public statement to their family and friends saying, I am going to put everything on the line because I really want to be with this person and I'm willing to build a life. | |
| Marriage isn't for everyone. | |
| I'm not advocating it for everyone. | |
| It's not going to be in everyone's situation. | |
| But people that do take that seriously, I think that's something that's a covenant that people should. | |
| I think if you're taking that seriously, if you are taking a relationship seriously, you're going to take it just as serious whether you sign it or not. | |
| That's what I think. | |
| Like, I don't think that signing a piece of paper, all it really does is saying, because mostly men are the breadwinners, like not all situations, but mostly men. | |
| It's just saying, if you guys get divorced, you get half of this stuff. | |
| That's basically all it's saying. | |
| So would you argue for that if someone is willing to do more of a traditional relationship where the woman says, hey, I'm willing to give up my career to build our family and to be at home? | |
| And I'm going to put myself at a disadvantage in that sense. | |
| And I'm going to trust that you're going to be the breadwinner. | |
| Do you think that's fair for her to have a marriage and a commitment in that sense? | |
| I think, well, I, like I said, I don't believe in marriage, so I just. | |
| But if a man and a woman are together and they have more traditional values and he says, hey, I want to be the breadwinner. | |
| I want to provide for you. | |
| I want you to raise our children and stay at home. | |
| Well, with that. | |
| And she sacrifices. | |
| And she's premarital counseling and all this talking and all the seriousness that they put into it. | |
| She knows by now whether or not she should do it. | |
| But she wouldn't do premarital counseling if she wasn't going to get married. | |
| You just said you're not forming. | |
| And then you could do counseling without, you could go do couples therapy without being married. | |
| I advocate for every couple to do that. | |
| So either way, it doesn't matter. | |
| The piece of paper really doesn't matter. | |
| It's about how much you value that person and want to dedicate yourself to that person. | |
| And you could do that without a piece of therapy. | |
| Does anybody else want to weigh in on the marriage thing? | |
| I find it interesting that men who are legally married have a longer life expectancy. | |
| According to Harvard, 10 plus years. | |
| So that, I think, proves that that further commitment. | |
| It's only 10 plus years more. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It's extraordinary. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Because I think just that commitment and that security in the relationship and even having security over. | |
| Within that data, though, there would be a lot of guys who died young and didn't get married. | |
| That could be. | |
| But I showed that a lot of people. | |
| There is an element of happiness that does come with loving with your forever partner and deciding that you only want to be with each other and not open that up to others. | |
| Also, one variable in that study, though, is women tend to make men go to the doctor more. | |
| So they were able to identify preventative care. | |
| So that's one of the biggest things is a woman saying, you need to go for your annual checkup. | |
| So things were identified. | |
| What would be the comparison, though, between married men and men who have long-term life partners? | |
| Like, what would be the difference? | |
| Like, assume all things are pretty much the same. | |
| The only difference, one couple is married, one's not, they're monogamous, they stay together for life. | |
| Is the married couple still gonna, like, is the man in those situations still gonna live 10 years longer? | |
| I'd say that's probably something to do with meaning, with a man having meaning in his life and having a family, because there is something to that. | |
| Like, Johan Hari has done a lot of work on this with some of the books that he's written about the fact that people who derive meaning from their life and have community around them, like this is why the people in the Mediterranean live so long. | |
| Because they're really close with their family and also they eat really good food. | |
| You can have a family without signing the visa again. | |
| It just comes down to the piece of paper that you are signing. | |
| I didn't say that. | |
| You're arguing with something I didn't say. | |
| No, that's why you're saying you're saying it comes down to because they're happier and they have more purpose, that's why marriage works more. | |
| It doesn't matter. | |
| Generally, people who are together are married, though. | |
| Generally, people who are together for a long period of time are married. | |
| But they can definitely stay together. | |
| I don't disagree with Brian. | |
| I don't really think people who are secular should necessarily get married. | |
| I believe in marriage as a religious institution. | |
| That's why I don't believe in gay marriage. | |
| I'm surprised that you believe that. | |
| Well, I was just making an argument for a secular piece of saying that. | |
| Yeah, but yeah, so that's what I'm saying. | |
| Most people who are married for a very long time, who are together for a very long time, are married. | |
| So I'd be interested to see the minutiae of that study. | |
| It makes sense, though. | |
| Like, brings more security into a relationship, especially for women. | |
| Because nine in ten women who have abortions are not married. | |
| So they don't feel like they have that security and that man who's going to stand up in their life and actually commit to their child. | |
| But if you have that marriage contract, then there is more security within family life. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I'd say that men who don't get married also would tend to be much bigger risk takers by this, I would imagine. | |
| So those are the kinds of guys who probably would die younger. | |
| Whereas men who do get married tend to have like a quite more straighty 180 white picket fence type trajectory. | |
| But most marriages end in divorce, so it doesn't really matter at the end of the day. | |
| Well, the divorce guy is probably why they end up dying earlier. | |
| Stressful process. | |
| They ended divorce, probably, because the woman divorced him and took off his stuff, and now he's depressed, and now that's why he died. | |
| I think that's what I said. | |
| Could be. | |
| Let me read. | |
| We got three chats here. | |
| David Treziak. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| Sorry about your neck, Brian. | |
| I've spent eight months of my life as a commercial diver in freezing waters, and there was only one woman who could keep up respect to her, but men do this. | |
| I'm curious. | |
| Which ocean? | |
| Atlantic? | |
| Atlantic Ocean? | |
| By the way, did you ever encounter David? | |
| I saw this like terrifying video about it's called Delta P. | |
| It's where typically for underwater divers, you see this with like underwater welders and stuff. | |
| This was messed up. | |
| I've seen this. | |
| You've seen the Delta P video. | |
| Where the crab gets like sucked in. | |
| Well, no, no, no. | |
| So like, it's like something, I don't know the exact science or physics of it, but there's a pressure differential. | |
| And basically underwater divers who are typically like work, they're working on a dam or they're working on something underwater. | |
| If there's some sort of like a suction thing, I don't know. | |
| I can't explain it very much. | |
| I saw one on Mr. Bullen where they were working within some sort of a vessel deep underwater and then one of them accidentally opened some sort of a suction thing and then they all got ripped into it and they all got sucked deep, deep into this pipe. | |
| And then there happened to be a little tiny pocket and they were all in the pocket. | |
| One of them decided to go back up, made it back to the vessel, but all the rest of them just stayed there until they died. | |
| You either get like the suction is so tight, you either just get trapped against it and you make a seal and you basically die underwater or the pressure is so extreme that you get, this is kind of, you get sucked into a hole this big, which is terrifying. | |
| So David, have you had any Delta P encounters? | |
| It's called Delta P, the phenomenon. | |
| We have anonymous. | |
| Yeah, what's the gender gap for Delta P fatalities? | |
| I wonder what that... | |
| I get paid 77 cents on the dollar for my comfortable air-conditioned office job. | |
| What's the Delta P gender gap? | |
| Anyways, look it up. | |
| Delta P. All right. | |
| Sorry, I pulled this up and I didn't read it. | |
| Hold on. | |
| She was the one who gave her the word. | |
| Is this a song lyric? | |
| She left, took my kids, turned them against me, took 50% of my retirement, takes $3,000 a month from me, and last week took my death benefits. | |
| Damn, contract equals ruined. | |
| Anonymous, well, thank you for your message. | |
| I'm very sorry to hear about your experience. | |
| I'm assuming you were married here. | |
| Gave her the world. | |
| She left, took your kids. | |
| Was there a custody dispute? | |
| Turn them against, he said, I'll pull up one more time. | |
| Turn them against me. | |
| This is something that's often used in divorces. | |
| This happens all the time. | |
| Like parental alienation. | |
| I've seen this happen so many times. | |
| And it does happen to be the case that more often than not, when it comes to parental alienation, more often than men do this too, I guess, but like the mother will poison the child. | |
| And when I say, I don't literally mean poison, poison them in terms of like how, you know, will say things negatively about the husband or the father. | |
| And it'll start alienating the child from their husband. | |
| And, you know, young kids at that point, it's hard for them to know what's the truth, what's not. | |
| And they turn the child against the father. | |
| And it's just absolutely, it's terrible for the child. | |
| In Australia, it's even worse than America. | |
| Like, we have this rule in Australia where you can get a domestic violence order just on command. | |
| If you're a woman, you can just go to the police because there was a bunch of incidents that happened that led to this where they can just go to the police and they can basically just say, he's abusing me. | |
| And then he gets like a restraining order straight away, restraining order from his kids and everything. | |
| And then that can be used in court. | |
| I heard some bad shit in the UK. | |
| There's some similar shit in the UK too with that. | |
| Is it bad in Australia, though? | |
| That's terrible, man. | |
| I've seen so many people get absolutely shafted with this. | |
| And I'm a pretty open-minded person when it comes to these sort of situations. | |
| I don't really want to take a gendered stance, but men get absolutely shafted in these situations. | |
| Well, there's something called, and Nick, can you Google it? | |
| It's called the Duluth model. | |
| And I think this is something that was introduced in the 70s or 80s that's sort of related to this, a little different, not really related. | |
| Well, actually, kind of related. | |
| So the Duluth model, if I have my, if I recollect, can you pull it up? | |
| Wikipedia, just click on the Wikipedia. | |
| Can you scroll to the top? | |
| Community-based protocol. | |
| It aims to biased against men. | |
| And I think the application of it when it comes to, let's say, there's a domestic violence call, right? | |
| I don't know if this is actually the Duluth model, but something like if there's a domestic violence call, somebody has to get arrested. | |
| And they're overwhelmingly, even if it's the woman, they're going to arrest the larger person or some shit. | |
| I don't know the exact things of it, but. | |
| That's why you got to turn your phone on these days and record interactions. | |
| If you are having an interaction like that, it's going spazzing out on you. | |
| Turn your phone on, press record, and avoid that false allegation. | |
| Yeah, we have Anonymous. | |
| She was the one. | |
| Oh, wait, did I read this one? | |
| Oh, my bad. | |
| One sec. | |
| Hold on. | |
| 3,000 a month for me last week to my death. | |
| Damn, dude. | |
| How long? | |
| Oh, I was curious to ask Anonymous, how long were you married? | |
| And was it in the United States? | |
| How long were you married? | |
| Was it in the United States? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Twitch. | |
| Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash/whatever. | |
| Drop us a follow, drop some Prime sub if you have one. | |
| If you have Amazon Prime, you can link it to your Twitch. | |
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| And if you're watching over on YouTube, open up another tab, drop us a follow over there on twitch.tv/slash whatever. | |
| And then we have a chat here from Stephen. | |
| To the fake Christian women, do you think gay marriage is encouraged, tolerable in Christianity? | |
| The material world is what these women are after. | |
| Virtues and morality are secondary, tertiary. | |
| I don't know who this is directed to. | |
| Maybe it's not doing us any favor to call them fake Christians, but for those of you who do consider yourself Christian, is gay marriage, are you in favor of gay marriage? | |
| Like, I guess. | |
| Who's Christian? | |
| Show of hands. | |
| Is gay marriage compatible with a Christian with Christianity? | |
| Starting with you? | |
| This is a rough question. | |
| It's no, it's not encouraged. | |
| Simple answer. | |
| Yeah, I don't think gay marriage is permissible by the Bible because God designed marriage for a man and a woman, and we can even see that in our anatomy and the way that plays out in relationships. | |
| And I think a lot of people can be hurt in premarital relations, whether or not it's LGBT or straight, which is why we're told not to, you know, have sex before marriage or have multiple partners. | |
| I think it can be just as harmful as somebody who chooses to live that LGBT lifestyle. | |
| Basically, just living against God's design for marriage is really harmful, no matter what that looks like. | |
| I would agree with everything she said. | |
| Killed it. | |
| Yeah, I agree. | |
| It's just between a man and a woman. | |
| I would say, as a Christian, that's what I believe as well. | |
| But I'm also someone that recognizes we're in a world where I support everyone and we have a right in this country. | |
| Whether or not it's something that I'm in favor for or not is irrelevant, it's something that I think everyone has a right to that, and that's what we're that's that's the reality where we're at. | |
| So I'm you don't personally believe that gay marriage is permissible. | |
| Not in the Christian faith, no. | |
| All right, we have a chat from Bedroad the Offender. | |
| Hey, dude, good to see you, man. | |
| It's been a minute. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| Appreciate the super chat. | |
| My aunt and uncle will be married for 50 years next month. | |
| They are Catholic, had four kids, two sons, two daughters. | |
| My aunt grew up in a home with six brothers the size of a small corner store. | |
| Be married first. | |
| Congrats, man. | |
| Glad your parents are still together. | |
| Actually, or well, sorry, not your parents, your aunt and uncle. | |
| Good to see you in the chat, Benjamin the Fender. | |
| Pleasure as always. | |
| Actually, a question kind of riffing off of this: Are your parents still together, separated, divorced, whatever? | |
| Never married? | |
| Divorce. | |
| Divorced. | |
| They're still together. | |
| Together. | |
| I'm a rebound baby. | |
| Wait, what's that? | |
| My parents were never married. | |
| I was the product of a rebound. | |
| Huh. | |
| Awesome. | |
| Okay. | |
| Jake, what about you? | |
| Parents together? | |
| No, my old man passed away when I was 19. | |
| Sorry to hear that. | |
| Were they your parents together when... | |
| He got really sick when I was younger, but they were still technically married and stuff. | |
| A few difficulties in the marriage, but they were still together. | |
| She looked after him until he died. | |
| Awesome. | |
| Okay. | |
| Let's see. | |
| We have a question here from Stiffler. | |
| Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten. | |
| Starting with you, go ahead. | |
| You remember this from last time? | |
| I don't rate. | |
| Come on. | |
| Shouldn't you manifest that 10? | |
| I don't rate because. | |
| Rule number 76: no excuses. | |
| Play with a champion. | |
| I just don't. | |
| Do it! | |
| Just do it! | |
| Okay, I will say this: I don't think I'm a 10. | |
| I will say this. | |
| Yesterday, you said tomorrow. | |
| So just do it! | |
| Make your dreams come true! | |
| Just do it! | |
| Because that's what you really want to know. | |
| No, I don't think I'm a tennis rep. Something with clear success while you're going to wake up and work hard at it. | |
| Nothing is impossible. | |
| You should get to the point where anyone else would quit, and you're not going to stop there. | |
| No! | |
| What are you waiting for? | |
| Do it! | |
| Just do it! | |
| Yes, you can! | |
| That's great. | |
| Just do it! | |
| Can you answer the question? | |
| Like I said, I don't think I'm a 10. | |
| That's what you want to know. | |
| That's the answer you want to know: is if we think we're 10. | |
| Okay, if you're not a 10, what do you rank yourself? | |
| Do you rank yourself a 1? | |
| I don't rank myself. | |
| Do you rank yourself a 2? | |
| 3, 4, 5, 6? | |
| That's it. | |
| All right, what about you? | |
| I would say 6.5. | |
| Say 7. | |
| By what metric are we rating ourselves? | |
| Looks like we're societal perspective or because I think maybe societally I might be a seven, but we're all made in the image of God, so I think we're all tens. | |
| Okay. | |
| Seven? | |
| Five? | |
| Eight. | |
| Jake? | |
| Give myself a seven. | |
| You're not going to answer? | |
| Not a ten. | |
| Give myself a five. | |
| I went down. | |
| What is that? | |
| Oh, I got fat. | |
| I can't wait. | |
| I got dad by right now. | |
| I got to lose that shit. | |
| I got it. | |
| Eh, still. | |
| All right. | |
| She's not going to answer. | |
| So I'm going to give that a clown world. | |
| Like the video, guys. | |
| Let's see here. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Let's get back into the pre-show. | |
| Pre-show notes. | |
| We have, we got through all of KJ's stuff. | |
| We have Paulina no shod. | |
| Let's see. | |
| We have Ryan. | |
| Ryan, your last name on your Instagram is Abercrombie. | |
| Is that your actual last name? | |
| Any relation to the clothing brand? | |
| You consider yourself traditional? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Traditional? | |
| Okay. | |
| I'd lean that side. | |
| You said for crazy, unique dating stories in your early 20s, you noticed what? | |
| Did I write that I oh my goodness, this is so embarrassing. | |
| Oh, I'm just prompting you. | |
| This is so embarrassing. | |
| Okay, so I used to bartend all my way through college, and it was a very family-type bar. | |
| So it was dads and kids, moms. | |
| So a lot of dads would hit on me, whether they were single or married, and I guess I started really liking dads. | |
| Or I guess it was more just mature people after dating guys in college. | |
| This is during my sequel era. | |
| And basically, this dad would just continue to tip me $100 every single time he came. | |
| And he would ask me out whenever he did it. | |
| I would always say no. | |
| My mistake was like at $800, he asked me, and I finally said yes. | |
| And I wish I didn't. | |
| But decided to go on that date. | |
| Was he married with the kids? | |
| No, he was getting divorced. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Don't know if it was settled yet, but they were not together. | |
| Yeah, so basically, he lived at this house with his kids and his wife at one point. | |
| He got to keep the house. | |
| At one point, me and my friend, he liked her a lot too. | |
| We both went, like, not romantically. | |
| He just thought she was funny. | |
| We both went over to his house. | |
| We were drinking bottles of wine. | |
| I think we were like too deep. | |
| And then eventually he was just like telling us about his divorce and everything that's going wrong and like his life. | |
| And this is so embarrassing. | |
| My friend just ended up doing like a prayer circle. | |
| So for about 10 minutes, we just prayed over him. | |
| And that's exactly what happened. | |
| That's not where I saw that going. | |
| No. | |
| I'm glad it was. | |
| I was just like, it was literally. | |
| I was locked into that story. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I was thinking he was going to put on some Rod Stewart. | |
| I know. | |
| It was just like a 10-minute prayer slide. | |
| We were just drunk as hell. | |
| It was awful. | |
| Put on a wig. | |
| No. | |
| We really needed prayers. | |
| He needed someone to pray with him. | |
| I know. | |
| And I'm happy we did that. | |
| But it's just like after we left, we were like, what did we just do? | |
| Private chat. | |
| I'll get back to, we have some other notes for you, Brian, and we'll get back to them in just a sec. | |
| We finally were able to find his Instagram. | |
| So we'll pull him up. | |
| This is our homie, Golden Gopher. | |
| Golden Gopher, we're going to pull you up. | |
| Normally we don't do this for this threshold, but unfortunately, you don't have anything on your fucking Instagram, buddy. | |
| So put this on, that's fun, actually. | |
| Scroll down. | |
| Bro, we can't. | |
| This is not. | |
| The reason I was asking for your Instagram was hopefully so we could make an assessment. | |
| Look at the can you zoom in on that one? | |
| Tag? | |
| I don't want to do tagged. | |
| I don't want to do tagged. | |
| I don't know what's on there. | |
| Scroll up, Nick. | |
| Bro, he's a gopher. | |
| All right. | |
| So I guess you see that thing at the very bottom there? | |
| He's a gopher. | |
| Unfortunately, we can't really do assessment there. | |
| If we look at your profile photo, you said you're click on it. | |
| Oh, do you have to right-click and open the new tab? | |
| No, you just click on it. | |
| No, you just zoom it, yeah. | |
| Not on desktop. | |
| Not on desktop. | |
| Okay. | |
| Golden Gopher. | |
| He says he's 5'10, 225. | |
| Well, bro, you're just like me, man. | |
| We both gotta lose a bit of weight, brother. | |
| You and me, we gotta lose a bit of weight. | |
| So that's my advice. | |
| Live weight. | |
| Four times a week and walk 10,000 steps a day. | |
| Let's go. | |
| Sounds basic bitch advice, but honestly, if you get that down, it really works. | |
| A lot of guys will train, train, train for a few months, lose the weight, put it on, lose the weight, put it on. | |
| If you maintain that pretty easy lifestyle, four times a week in the gym, get her. | |
| Steps in, 10 calories, you're good. | |
| Going back to you, Ryan, so you'd said in your early 20s, you noticed you, and I don't know if you mentioned this, you began gravitating towards older men. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Did you say that already? | |
| I said I referred to it as dads, but yes. | |
| But did you say that? | |
| More mature guys? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| How old are we? | |
| Like, what's that? | |
| Oh, I mean, 28 to 32. | |
| Like, nothing crazy, but when I was, I mean, I was 21. | |
| And you said probably because their frontal lobe was a bit more developed, or so you thought. | |
| And then you were dating the dad that you told us about prayer circle or whatever. | |
| Okay. | |
| That's correct. | |
| And then you said months later he, or did you say this? | |
| He literally had your other ex-boyfriend, you guys, they became mermaids. | |
| Oh my gosh. | |
| Anyways, I don't know if that's really that interesting. | |
| No, it's not. | |
| I'm happy to tell. | |
| I don't know if it's interesting. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| You said you've dated a few dads, 30-year-olds, when you were in college. | |
| Each situation was unique/slash crazy. | |
| Ha ha ha. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, I guess I think it's just weird for a 30-year-old to be interested in a 21-year-old in college. | |
| Why would that be weird? | |
| Why? | |
| Because I wasn't mature. | |
| Good. | |
| Were you hot? | |
| I guess maybe you thought I was. | |
| Here's your answer. | |
| Do you think that guys care if you're mature? | |
| I don't know. | |
| My older brothers just like that. | |
| But by mature, if they're like ditzy, like 21-year-old and don't know anything and just have like TikTok brain, then no way. | |
| But if they're immature in the sense that they haven't gone out and really battled in the workplace and gotten sharp elbows, then that's a green flag. | |
| Yeah, I can see that. | |
| These guys were not green flags. | |
| If they're like nice values and they're sweet girl and a little bit immature, that's fine. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I guess I can see that. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I just, I don't know. | |
| I think it's my older brothers telling me that they would never date a 20-year-old, one-year-old when they're 30. | |
| So I kind of just. | |
| How old are your brothers? | |
| 30. | |
| It's a nine-year-age gap. | |
| It's just a significant one. | |
| I mean. | |
| No, I think it's fine. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I think a nine-year age gap is fine, but I think it's just the point of like me being in college and them. | |
| Why? | |
| I think that's perfect for a girl in college to date an older guy like that. | |
| Why? | |
| Otherwise, you're dating a guy in college. | |
| No, exactly. | |
| You're not going to follow his lead. | |
| He doesn't know what he's doing with his life. | |
| He's in college. | |
| Yeah, that's very true. | |
| Yeah, but if you date a guy who's a little bit older, like women inherently want guidance from a man. | |
| They want a man that they can look up to and a man who's been through things and can guide them through. | |
| So there's nothing weird about that at all. | |
| I find it weird when girls in college are dating other guys in college. | |
| I don't think so. | |
| I was like, when I was younger, 19, 20 sort of thing, as a guy, all of the girls your age are all dating older guys. | |
| But when I was 19, I was like fat ass. | |
| I was like 110 kilos. | |
| Dang it. | |
| But like, yeah, all the girls tend to be dating up. | |
| So, yeah. | |
| Wait, that was your experience in college? | |
| I didn't go to college. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| But I did go to like, obviously, high school and stuff. | |
| And then after that, you just get no play. | |
| But like I said, I was really fat. | |
| You can look at that on my Instagram. | |
| Oh, fuck. | |
| Wait, pull it up. | |
| You used to be fat. | |
| I used to be fat ass. | |
| It's all on my Instagram. | |
| Really? | |
| Let's find it. | |
| With a beer and a stiggy. | |
| How far down do you have to scroll? | |
| Not far. | |
| All right, then you can find it. | |
| You were a little chubby kid, or was it through the broader? | |
| Because you're age right now, dude. | |
| Yeah, I'm doing all right. | |
| 10,000 kids a day. | |
| Yeah, no. | |
| But I started boxing and then lost 30 kilos with my boxing coach in the middle. | |
| That's nice, man. | |
| That's awesome. | |
| I mean, I think probably, though, that when it comes to college, there's definitely, I think there's a greater proportion of women who are going to be dating older men. | |
| But I think the reality is probably like most girls in college dating college guys. | |
| Yeah, no, that's true because it's their immediate circle. | |
| And I don't think they're really looking for that more long term. | |
| They're probably looking to just have a bit more fun and date someone their age and stuff. | |
| I think there's far fewer, for example, college-age men that are dating like women in their 30s. | |
| That's super rare. | |
| Super rare. | |
| I got a photo. | |
| Let's see it. | |
| Holy fuck. | |
| Bro, what a fucking legend. | |
| You look like a legend on the left, though. | |
| Yeah, I was fun. | |
| I was fun, that's for sure. | |
| That was like my 19th birthday. | |
| How much did you weigh? | |
| 110 kilos? | |
| Yeah, I was a piece of shit. | |
| That's like 220, 230. | |
| Yeah, something like that. | |
| But I used to wake up every single day at like 3 or 4 p.m., play video games all night until about 6 a.m. sort of thing, and just eat ice cream and toasties until your mindset changed. | |
| And then if you're not sure, you just have to do the work. | |
| That's the thing. | |
| Your mindset changed and you changed it. | |
| And then the photo on the right is before my first fight. | |
| So this was a boxer? | |
| Yeah, boxing. | |
| Nice. | |
| That was pre and after the camp, though. | |
| These are eight-week photos. | |
| The first one was like a few years. | |
| Good shit, man. | |
| Congrats, man. | |
| That's awesome. | |
| Thanks for watching. | |
| I got to get on that. | |
| You can do that. | |
| See, you can go from being not there to being there. | |
| You can. | |
| You definitely can. | |
| Like I said, it's a slow progress. | |
| You just got to make those small adjustments. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Let's see here. | |
| Oh, we were talking about the age gap stuff, though. | |
| I don't know if it's worth lingering on that for too long. | |
| Let's see. | |
| We'll go back to my notes here. | |
| You also, let's see. | |
| You wanted to talk about chivalry, red flags, first dates, men not being men anymore, coaching guys on how to flirt, and why men cheat. | |
| So there's a lot there. | |
| While we do coaching guys on how to flirt, what did you want to talk about on that? | |
| I have some male coworkers that will just like talk to me about them going on first dates. | |
| And I just, they're such great guys, and it's just not hitting, I think, the way that they think that it is. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| Intention versus execution. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| Like, they're just so sweet, but I think they, yeah, yeah. | |
| They're sweet, they're great guys, they're employed. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Huh. | |
| But it's the flirting part that is just maybe a little cringy. | |
| Flirting is very difficult. | |
| No, I know. | |
| And that's how. | |
| Flirting with girls is incredibly difficult. | |
| Sometimes it's better to do less than overcompensate, maybe. | |
| So. | |
| So you coach them on how to flirt? | |
| I mean, I'm not an expert in it for sure, but I could give some tips just to make it a tiny bit better. | |
| But I kind of, yeah, I kind of agreed with you on like that piece of it of like, just that's what I'm saying. | |
| Take your game a tiny bit. | |
| And it's not like I obviously I'm not going to make him turn into like the top 1%. | |
| I don't have that in me whatsoever. | |
| But just a little bit of, and I guess a little piece of it is like teaching. | |
| Like my brother is awful when it comes to chivalry. | |
| And so I'd always try to teach him how to like take a girl on a first date. | |
| Wait, hold on, hold on. | |
| Your brother is awful at chivalry. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| Oh, he just doesn't know how to take a girl on a first date. | |
| Like he'll DM me. | |
| Or no, sorry, he'll message me like a DM that he has with a girl and he's just like, how do I ask her out? | |
| And then he'll tell me what his plan is. | |
| And I'm just like, oh, no, no, maybe just adjust it a little bit. | |
| Maybe. | |
| I like that. | |
| I think it's great that your brother's not chivalrous. | |
| Most girls. | |
| Good for him. | |
| If you're watching, most girls will see men like that and want to bash them. | |
| That's why I saw it and I was like, I want to help them. | |
| Like, they need that little push. | |
| They need that little, okay, this is what you could change. | |
| So that's why I wanted to make sure that you're so spreading. | |
| Because most women want to bash the men and just be like, oh, well, they suck. | |
| Like, look. | |
| So you're telling me that you see all those men. | |
| You see all those bottom feeders. | |
| They are in your purview. | |
| Yes, they follow me. | |
| They talk to me and I've talked to them for years. | |
| They follow you and talk to you. | |
| Yeah, and I've talked to them for years. | |
| They should tell them to do it. | |
| Tell them to do it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Unfollow you straight away is what they should do. | |
| Tell them to unfollow every single girl that they don't know. | |
| And that goes for everyone listening to this podcast as well. | |
| If you don't know a girl and she's just like an internet thought, unfollow her. | |
| But I talk to her. | |
| You have to be following her. | |
| Don't slide into her DMs. | |
| She's not going to reply to you. | |
| I do reply to you. | |
| I've actually done that, though. | |
| So that's the difference. | |
| Not all of them do, but I do, so that's the difference. | |
| I'm sure you get a lot of DMs, though. | |
| I don't know if you're blood to all of them. | |
| I do. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It's good to shoot your shot, but I mean, if they're wanting advice and stuff off you, especially if they're asking for advice. | |
| If they're just saying, oh my God, you're so hot, like, yeah, I'm not going to reply. | |
| But if they're like, hey, Brie, like, this hopping, blah, blah, blah. | |
| Like, okay, then I want to talk to you. | |
| Do you understand that they're doing that, though, because it's the only time they probably ever get to talk to a pretty girl? | |
| That's fine. | |
| Then I'll be there. | |
| That's not really okay. | |
| If you want to aid them on their self-help journey, you should tell them, stop messaging me and go and do your thing. | |
| No, because I'm helping them. | |
| But yeah, I get what you mean. | |
| I get what you mean. | |
| Other girls. | |
| There's nothing good about being in a back and forth message with a girl who's going to have a chance with you. | |
| All right. | |
| You also said men not being men anymore. | |
| Did you want to expand on any of that? | |
| And I'm so curious what I was thinking when I typed that. | |
| I feel like they're just not as manly as manly anymore. | |
| We don't help them. | |
| And it's hard standard. | |
| Yeah, it's hard to find them as attractive when they're more feminine, I guess. | |
| I mean, you have feminism to blame for that. | |
| You really do. | |
| And I kind of agree with that. | |
| Curious what your thought is on that. | |
| Yeah, well, I mean, feminism is like an inherently toxic ideology, and it's a social and political movement. | |
| It's not just like wanting equality between the sexes. | |
| And it's made a whole generation of young men to feel like they're toxic if they try and show ambition, show leadership, and all of these things that are inherently masculine features and traits. | |
| They get beaten up. | |
| You can see so many articles in the mainstream media where they say weightlifting is toxic masculinity and all these things. | |
| Masculinity is demonized a lot these days. | |
| It sounds like you guys agree with my course. | |
| No, I don't agree with your father. | |
| Nobody wants your bullshit. | |
| It sounds like all the people. | |
| I agree 100% with what I'm saying. | |
| We're turning men feminine. | |
| We have lost completely what a man is. | |
| We are holding men. | |
| We're not holding men to standard. | |
| They're not being providers. | |
| We're not doing traditional roles. | |
| This is what we need to change. | |
| This shit needs to change. | |
| So you agree with what I'm saying. | |
| You just don't want to say that because you're not going to be able to do that. | |
| No, what you're doing is you're asserting your business modeling today. | |
| And what I'm saying to you is your business model is not going to work. | |
| First of all, it's not going to be productive because you're a female. | |
| You don't understand the plight of the family. | |
| That's why I have experts coming. | |
| If anything, who are the experts? | |
| What are they? | |
| I'm going to ask someone like you who went from being bigger and not healthy and then turned into that fake young guy. | |
| I could ask someone like that and bring them on. | |
| So, okay, so look, if that's your business model, and if you're saying, I'm going to be, I'm going to fund it and then I'm going to get experts to come in who are going to be. | |
| That's exactly what I'm saying. | |
| That's okay, but don't you try and tell them what to do. | |
| You wouldn't know the first thing about the life of a man Obviously, that's why I'm saying But you said before you were going to teach them to know I have the resources to do that. | |
| So you're not going to stand up there with your family. | |
| I'm not going to stand up there and be like, this is how you do a push-up. | |
| I don't know how to do a push-up. | |
| Okay, nobody gives a fuck about your course. | |
| Sorry. | |
| I'm just saying it sounds like you guys all agree with it, Brian. | |
| You know you agree with it. | |
| You're just, you just, your job is to come on here and bash as much as possible, especially. | |
| We were talking about feminism and you brought up your bloody, yeah, that's the issue. | |
| She agrees with me. | |
| Yeah, no, but yeah, but what's that? | |
| What does that have to do with your course? | |
| And you guys are all agreeing with what I'm saying, that we're turning men feminine. | |
| Sounds like Jonestown, your course. | |
| Isn't it turning, are we turning men feminine? | |
| Are we not men? | |
| She's going to solve it. | |
| Okay. | |
| And we're just turning men feminine. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Just $69 a month. | |
| Society as a whole. | |
| We're turning men. | |
| Like, we're not holding men to that masculine rule that she's doing that. | |
| Precisely. | |
| Mostly, like they said, feminists. | |
| Women. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Do you think women should take accountability then for some of the men's actions? | |
| Yes. | |
| They should take accountability. | |
| But also, if you yourself, you said you don't even want to get married and have a family. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Don't you think that's the ultimate aspiration for a man is to want to be able to be married and have that meaning and purpose in his life where he can have kids and we should probably try and restructure the nuclear family? | |
| Wouldn't that be a key pillar of that? | |
| Men are not meant for marriage. | |
| Ayurga went off on this. | |
| Polygamy is a lot of fun. | |
| You don't think that men are not. | |
| Look, look, look, look. | |
| Men are monogamy. | |
| I can understand if you mean from the secular perspective, like Brian said, it's a bad deal for men. | |
| But if you're saying that you don't think that the nuclear family is a positive thing. | |
| You can have a family, but you don't have to be married. | |
| And it doesn't have to be with one person. | |
| Sure, but do you think that a mother and a father and children in a household is the best way to order society? | |
| I don't think men are meant to be monogamous. | |
| That's what I think. | |
| Okay, so your advice to men would be to do what? | |
| Become that. | |
| Well, once you become that top where you want to be. | |
| Sleep around your whole life, plant your seed, your home. | |
| You can either choose to do that or you can choose, but that's the good thing. | |
| They have the choice. | |
| A lot of men are going to be a lot of people. | |
| This is the problem with the internet, with TikTok and the likes. | |
| No offense, but people like yourself who will say these things that have really no basis in reality, when really we understand that the nuclear family is the backbone of society. | |
| If we want to get back to having a healthy society, we'd want to be, that's what we want to structure it around. | |
| Like once the family fails and degenerates, society tends to degenerate as a whole. | |
| And then we get institutions like feminism and we get children being indoctrinated into these movements that I probably can't say on YouTube in school. | |
| And all of these cultural degenerations stem from the loss of the family. | |
| Men are biologically meant to be monogamous. | |
| I think they're meant to be, they're meant to have multiple people. | |
| Look, I would agree that men biologically have an inclination to not be monogamous. | |
| But what I would say is that just like every other human temptation, it's something that we have to temper. | |
| Got to temper. | |
| If you are a man who does seek to have a family, it is something that you will have to temper. | |
| Now, I'm not even saying that I'm totally against the idea of a man having a handshake agreement with his wife. | |
| You know, they get a bit older, they don't really park the bus very often, and he goes out. | |
| I'm not even against that. | |
| I'm Italian. | |
| Woman turns a blind eye in Italian culture very often, and these things happen. | |
| A lot of laughter. | |
| It's not ideal. | |
| As long as they're open about it, that's what I think. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, so I mean, but yeah. | |
| Well, my main thing is you guys can bash me all you want and laugh all you want, but you guys are all agreeing with what I'm saying, that we have ruined men in society. | |
| Cool, moving on. | |
| David Treziak, you are correct, Brian. | |
| It's scary, but I've been in 12-foot bow thrusters. | |
| You fear getting sucked up to a through-hole on a larger ship. | |
| I worked on props that actively moved, always watched others. | |
| Yo, David Treziak, thank you, man. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| I'm not familiar with all those things, but thank you for the chat, man. | |
| Always good to see you in the chat. | |
| Appreciate all your support. | |
| And then we are going to, let's see, maybe we'll hit on red flags a little bit later. | |
| Here's what you disagree on, Ryan. | |
| So we already talked about marriage. | |
| I don't know if you wanted to state any of your disagreements on that or if you feel we already covered it. | |
| We already covered it. | |
| Here's a good one. | |
| You said Brian not being okay with makeup. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay, so what do you object to there? | |
| Before I talk on this, I want to hear from you so I don't miss saying anything. | |
| What are your views on makeup? | |
| What are my views on makeup? | |
| Well, my view, it encapsulates a few other things. | |
| So there's plastic surgery, which it encapsulates into that. | |
| And then there's like use of filters on dating apps, for example. | |
| So when it comes to dating, I think wearing makeup is you're changing your physical appearance. | |
| You're making typically yourself look more physically attractive with makeup. | |
| Otherwise, why would you wear it if it was making you look just the same or less attractive? | |
| So clearly women wear makeup to be to wear to look better. | |
| Now, of course, you might provide pushback for, well, we don't do it for men. | |
| We do it for ourselves. | |
| Well, whoever you do it for, whether it's for yourself or other women or for men or all of the above, you do it to make yourself look better. | |
| Okay. | |
| So if that's not how you actually look, that is a deception. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, so I guess my criticism is me per and then, I mean, I have other reasons, but I do think that you are misrepresenting your appearance. | |
| I do think it is a lie. | |
| Okay. | |
| I don't, for example, a girl I'm dating, I'd prefer her to not wear makeup. | |
| I prefer women who wear minimal or no makeup. | |
| A little bit of eyeliner or something or mascara, cool. | |
| You start putting shit on your face and contouring and doing all this bullshit, lipstick, don't like it. | |
| Okay. | |
| Totally. | |
| Low eyeliner, fuck it. | |
| Don't care, really, but I prefer no makeup. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yes, I agree with you with the changing your entire appearance. | |
| I can agree with that. | |
| Sure. | |
| But I do think minimal amount of makeup to make yourself look more presentable would be about the same as you guys getting a haircut or shaving your beard. | |
| No, it would be equivalent to women getting a haircut. | |
| That as well. | |
| Yeah. | |
| A man getting a haircut would be the equivalent of a woman getting a haircut, not a woman wearing makeup. | |
| Okay, then let's talk about the beard. | |
| I do agree with the haircut. | |
| No, a beard isn't even a fair comparison either. | |
| I mean, if you shave your beard, you're a different person. | |
| And it can make a guy, I mean, guys always look more attractive when they come. | |
| Absolutely, but I'm not putting something artificial on my face. | |
| It's the artificial piece, or it's altering the way that you look naturally. | |
| Well, again, the beard comparison, I don't think is equivalent comparison to makeup. | |
| And also, I would make the argument, like if we were to split someone's face into halves, I would argue the determination as to what makes somebody physically attractive tends to be up here, more so up here in the top half of the face than the bottom half of the face. | |
| Now, look, guys can wear beards and they can look different. | |
| They can look more attractive. | |
| They can hide a weak jaw or a weak chin. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I don't disagree, but I don't think the change is comparable to the change that makeup has. | |
| And you're kind of, I mean, but what about you? | |
| This is sort of like a whataboutism, an appeal to like hypocrisy. | |
| Well, men do X, but okay, let's actually look at the use of makeup. | |
| Do you agree that I agree with you on changing the face? | |
| Yes. | |
| but then also it's like if you get fooled by that I feel like that's a little bit on you but I feel like not always Some girls are really. | |
| Some girls are really great at it, but I feel like you can notice. | |
| I can't think of a time where I've ever been on a date with a girl and then had another time where I've seen her with no makeup and been like totally jarred by the experience. | |
| Have you had that? | |
| Normally you can tell if they've caked it. | |
| Truthfully though, I typically tend to not date women who wear a lot of makeup. | |
| I've never dated. | |
| I just don't think it's a daughter. | |
| I've never dated a girl who would like regularly who did full face makeup. | |
| Sometimes they'd wear like eyeliner mascara. | |
| That's it. | |
| But there are a hold on. | |
| And then there's a decent amount of women who will regularly wear more than just eyeliner in that. | |
| But then it extends to, well, let's say you're meeting them on a dating app and they're not including any photo of them without makeup or their first photo filter full face and makeup. | |
| We could go on a dating app right now and like go through 20, 30, 40, 50 profiles. | |
| That first profile photo, always going to have typically a full face of makeup or a filter. | |
| Yeah, I agree with you. | |
| But also it is, but again, if you get fooled by it, I feel like that's kind of you. | |
| I kind of like it. | |
| Okay, so if I lie and say I'm a lawyer, but I'm not, and I'm broke. | |
| Is that on you? | |
| If I believe that, yeah, I didn't do any reason. | |
| So you don't think it's wrong, though? | |
| Oh, of course it's wrong. | |
| Okay, so then ought it be wrong for women to misrepresent their physical appearance by use of makeup? | |
| I think if that's the way that you think about it, then that's okay. | |
| But my perspective is completely different. | |
| Are you attracted to muscular guys? | |
| It depends on muscular. | |
| Athletic, fit. | |
| Normal, yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| But not like crazy. | |
| So what if a guy like took a bunch of photos in like a very convincing muscle suit, but he actually, but he actually wasn't that physically fit? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Would that be a deception? | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| And I hope I would not get fooled by that. | |
| Okay. | |
| It's just deceptive. | |
| Yeah. | |
| No, it is. | |
| Okay, so wearing makeup is deceptive is more of the argument. | |
| I agree though. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, how can it not be? | |
| How can they not be? | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's not how you actually look. | |
| Of course it's a deception. | |
| Also, like you can also make that same argument then about high heels because high heels are meant to sort of make your bum poke out and make your legs look nicer. | |
| I don't, honestly, though, I don't have any issue with high heels. | |
| Really? | |
| I guess they can wear them. | |
| I just don't know. | |
| But it does make your legs look longer, makes your legs look more muscular. | |
| It's meant to pop you. | |
| It's a way I guess. | |
| Make yourself look more attractive or more presentable. | |
| I prefer a girl in sneakers, so if there's like some fucking shit hits the fan situation, we can get the fuck out of the way. | |
| I think girls underestimate how much, maybe we're different, but how much we actually like the look of a natural girl without makeup. | |
| If you wrap up for a date and you're not wearing makeup and you look really pretty, it's like nice. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But could you also say that maybe social media has perpetuated that in the sense of the girls who get the makeup? | |
| Wait, can you scoot the mic to the like the mic's way too far into the scooter skids? | |
| Yeah, there you go. | |
| No, I was just going to say like the people that people give attention to on social media and stuff are not the natural girls typically. | |
| The girls that have the filters, the girls that have the implants, the girls that have an obscene amount of makeup. | |
| I think it's easy for society or for young women to say, hey, this is what gets attention. | |
| So even though a guy says he likes natural girls, if I go on his account and I see he follows all these fake girls and he's giving all these girls attention, I don't know why. | |
| I'd say if he's following them in the first place, that's not a good thing. | |
| Yeah, I completely agree with me. | |
| With you. | |
| Agree with me. | |
| I completely agree with you. | |
| Social media absolutely perpetuates this and makes girls want to get more and more and more surgery done and makeup done and it makes them more and more fake. | |
| But that's what I'm saying. | |
| My point was that women actually underestimate how much we like it. | |
| Did you know what I'm saying? | |
| I see what you're saying. | |
| I mean, you have a naturally pretty girl. | |
| Yes. | |
| Is everyone naturally pretty? | |
| I think that's also the question. | |
| I think that's like, oh, yeah. | |
| If you see a model that looks beautiful without makeup, of course you're going to be like, oh my gosh, I prefer a girl without makeup. | |
| But also there's a certain, like he said, deception about wearing a lot of makeup. | |
| And if a girl is wearing a lot of makeup and I can look at her and look like I'm going to take it off with a shovel, then there's something that gives you the ick a little bit. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh, I totally get that. | |
| So, yes, a lot of makeup I'm agreeing with you guys on, but I do think. | |
| Have you seen those videos of the Asian girls where it's like they take their makeup off and they look like a totally different person? | |
| Have you ever seen those videos of where there's crackhead girls put on apes and makeup? | |
| Like that. | |
| Yeah, no, it looks exactly like that. | |
| They don't have teeth. | |
| Nick, do you have a photo you can pull up for us in the makeup folder? | |
| That's crazy, though. | |
| You can type in like Asian girl transformation. | |
| There's some that aren't. | |
| Well, he's getting that. | |
| They can make their faces contour in all different things. | |
| But you can put tape and you actually make your face thinner. | |
| Huck said, I started dating a girl in a few weeks in. | |
| She invited me over for dinner. | |
| She answered the door and I basically froze up. | |
| I didn't even recognize her. | |
| Her makeup game was damn near flawless. | |
| Damn it. | |
| Yeah, I mean, they're pretty good at it, to be fair. | |
| It is a good point. | |
| I've seen some pretty good makeup jobs in my life. | |
| Well, it's like the filters and the plastic surgery. | |
| A lot of these girls don't look like they do in real life. | |
| Nick, you got a photo for us? | |
| I'm trying to find that. | |
| There's like a photo in the makeup folder. | |
| I don't have it offhand. | |
| The photo is the girl in the yoga pants. | |
| There should be. | |
| Is there not like a before or after photo? | |
| In the makeup folder? | |
| I'm trying to make sure. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Can you go into the photo and find the ones off the tab quickly? | |
| Oh, it might not be in the tab. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Yeah, I'm looking forward to. | |
| Yeah, Nick, go into Dropbox podcast makeup. | |
| There's just pull up one and two. | |
| This one's pretty. | |
| This one's not a great example, but. | |
| Yeah, pull up both of them. | |
| Make it smaller. | |
| Party. | |
| I mean, that's a pretty substantial transformation there. | |
| That's not even good. | |
| Pull up the other one. | |
| Oh, there's some that. | |
| Indonesian to Japanese, really. | |
| I mean. | |
| There's also a common thing in Asian makeup where it kind of works almost like a glue. | |
| And so it gives you the double eyelid. | |
| So that's what happens there is she has monolids and then she actually makes herself. | |
| Here nose thinner thou. | |
| It's contour. | |
| Contour and half. | |
| You see what they do with the ladyboys in Thailand. | |
| Good job over there. | |
| They do great job. | |
| Great job over in Thailand. | |
| The old Tomahawk talk. | |
| But I mean, obviously, look, those are fairly substantial makeup transformations. | |
| Oh, wait, what's the, Nick? | |
| Let's do some of the videos. | |
| What's the video with the blonde? | |
| You know the blonde-haired one? | |
| Yeah, I don't think it's that very hairy. | |
| Let's do that one. | |
| That's a pretty substantial transformation. | |
| Oh. | |
| We'll play this one. | |
| There's another one too, but go ahead. | |
| I think it's in the makeup folder. | |
| No audio, no audio, no audio. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| She's doing some. | |
| Yeah, well, obviously she's wearing a lot of makeup, but I wouldn't anticipate like if she here's the trick, right? | |
| It's like she's wearing a lot of makeup. | |
| You don't know the extent of how she's going to look like without the makeup. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So. | |
| And you wouldn't necessarily look at her and be like, she's wearing a whole lot of makeup. | |
| Like, here's the deception, right? | |
| Like, when she's wearing this much makeup, it's clear. | |
| Hold on. | |
| It's clear she's wearing makeup there. | |
| I know she doesn't look like that, but I don't think she looks like that is the thing. | |
| So it's like... | |
| Yeah, that's crazy. | |
| There's another one, Nick. | |
| Blonde girl. | |
| She has braces or something, I think. | |
| Do we have it in the makeup tab? | |
| I don't know. | |
| So first it should be like hot yoga or swimming or something. | |
| That's a good point. | |
| I think we might have it in the tab. | |
| Do you know which one I'm talking about, Nick? | |
| The girl with the braces. | |
| Was it the boxing gym? | |
| Was it in the makeup tab? | |
| Okay. | |
| Imagine if she gets it all in the gi. | |
| We're pulling it up. | |
| Okay, go for it. | |
| I've seen this one. | |
| Take her swimming on the first day, too. | |
| All right. | |
| Putting on the makeup. | |
| That's a lot of makeup. | |
| Putting on the makeup. | |
| Huge. | |
| Huge difference. | |
| What the hell is even that? | |
| It's huge. | |
| Wait, so I mean, I guess, like, what are your disagreements though? | |
| Would you guys have picked the first girl or the second girl when initially looking at it? | |
| If they compare the two photos, would you have chosen the first girl? | |
| Which one? | |
| The one without the makeup on. | |
| Would you have swiped right or right on her? | |
| Oh, no way. | |
| No, you. | |
| See you later, Alfueta. | |
| But with the one that has the makeup on. | |
| Wait, so for which girl? | |
| What are you talking about? | |
| Without the makeup. | |
| She's saying without the makeup photo, would you have swiped? | |
| Probably not. | |
| Probably not. | |
| But with the makeup, would you. | |
| Probably, yeah, probably would have swiped yes. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Would have swiped yes. | |
| Is there a follow-up question? | |
| I did, but I forgot it now. | |
| I'll come back to me later for that one. | |
| Were you going to say, do you think that's why they do it? | |
| I wonder if it's because you guys are looking at the image, but maybe why the girls are putting on makeup is so you can look at them, but it's more underneath the skin or underneath the makeup that you should be looking for too. | |
| They don't wear it. | |
| I think it's a very idealistic thing to think. | |
| And I get where you're coming from, but men are visually stimulated. | |
| And this is the thing. | |
| Women can be very emotionally stimulated and stimulated with the narrative, but men are very visually stimulated. | |
| If I don't find you physically attractive, that's a massive problem. | |
| I think women can generally get over it. | |
| If the guy's high status enough and if he's respected by other men, wanted by other women. | |
| But does the makeup also is visually stimulating for you? | |
| If they look hot with the makeup on, then yeah, that's going to be visually stimulating. | |
| But it's going to be very disappointing if they don't look at the makeup on. | |
| Wait, so is the argument here, heaven forbid, men find prefer women who are more physically attractive? | |
| Is that the argument? | |
| Well, you were saying that you do not like girls who are wearing makeup, correct? | |
| Correct. | |
| Okay, so if you are finding a girl on the dating apps and one is wearing no makeup, you're saying that you would not swipe on her. | |
| You wouldn't swipe, what's the word, left or right, right? | |
| You wouldn't swipe right on her, or you would swipe right on her if she was wearing makeup or not wearing makeup. | |
| I get what she's saying. | |
| It is a good question because I would be shallow in that sense as a man that I would swipe right on the one with makeup and swipe left on the one without. | |
| But that's where the deception comes in, though. | |
| But you said you prefer natural girls. | |
| This is where I'm getting to. | |
| I think you can actually sort of balance that, though. | |
| Because you can have a photo where you look nice, but you're not, you know, you can look your best, whatever your best is, without having to cake makeup on, you know? | |
| But some girls, they look best, but sometimes look good when they accentuate their features with makeup. | |
| A lot of girls do, yeah, for sure. | |
| But then that's when the deception comes in, though. | |
| That's when if you have that and then you don't get those features unless they're totally made up, then you're not going to be as attracted to them. | |
| And some men are more attractive to women when they accentuate their fake work history. | |
| True. | |
| Huh? | |
| I'm not a paralegal. | |
| I'm an attorney. | |
| I'm not a receptionist. | |
| Wait, do they? | |
| But when you guys said you prefer natural girls, now you're saying that you are shallow enough to swipe on the girl with makeup. | |
| I thought you said you prefer natural girls. | |
| And the men don't like shaped. | |
| Asked us if comparing those two women. | |
| Why don't you choose a natural one? | |
| Well, I'm not inclined to be attracted to her in her, like, in that natural state, but is a degree, it is deception. | |
| No, that's fine. | |
| The whole point is the deception. | |
| That's why we're. | |
| It's deception. | |
| I agree with you. | |
| But I'm asking, why did you say you prefer natural girls, and now you're saying you would pick the girl with makeup on? | |
| You're not obliged to find every woman who's not wearing makeup attractive. | |
| Well, not all women are going to be attractive without makeup. | |
| Yeah, that's what I'm saying. | |
| Most girls are going to look more attractive with makeup on because it accentuates their features. | |
| Okay. | |
| Just generally attractive $200 makeup, I guess. | |
| Sorry for interrupting. | |
| So absolutely sorry for this terrible interruption. | |
| Lord, have mercy, forgive my transgressions. | |
| What are you trying to hide with all that face paint? | |
| I think that it's equivalent from a female perspective. | |
| I think that it's equivalent to if a guy was to go out and with his paycheck and to buy a Rolex, right? | |
| And he's flashing around the Rolex in the club and you girls like, oh, he looks, you know, like he's a successful guy. | |
| He's really got it going on. | |
| He's buying bottles. | |
| And then you go back to his apartment and you wake up in the morning and he's got like a one-bedroom apartment and he's sharing a flat with somebody and his room's dirty and he's got no money. | |
| He actually has no money in the bank. | |
| He was just flashing all of that and making himself look attractive. | |
| But then when you peel back a layer, he hasn't got it going on. | |
| Well, I wouldn't go for a man that's flashing a Rolex and buying bottles because that sounds like he's not smart with his money. | |
| What if he's just a millionaire and multi-millionaire? | |
| He can afford it. | |
| Sounds like he's not. | |
| I'm from Miami, so that's all I see. | |
| And I don't go for any of those. | |
| I'm sure you stay well away from those guys. | |
| Yeah, I hate those guys actually because they are so self-centered and entitled and all that. | |
| But your argument doesn't. | |
| So you live in Miami. | |
| You got the fakies going on. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You had your OF. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And you're trying to tell me that you stay well away from, and you've got all these photos on your Instagram of you and the other BBLs, you know. | |
| And you're telling me that you don't like guys with Rolex. | |
| Are you trying to, you think we're still? | |
| I don't want a guy that's flashing that stuff because that probably means, like you said, one, he doesn't have it, or two, he's really done with it. | |
| Have you ever been flown out to a location, somebody, somewhere far away? | |
| Flown out to a location. | |
| Have you ever been flown on a plane? | |
| You're getting blocked by the mic. | |
| Try to straighten up the mic if you can. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Have you ever had a guy pay for a flight for you to go somewhere? | |
| No. | |
| There you go. | |
| Good job. | |
| Never? | |
| No. | |
| Why would I have a guy? | |
| You ever have a guy do something that costs a lot of money, take you on a really expensive date, buy you something really nice? | |
| I don't really like guys paying for me. | |
| It gives them power, and I like being in control. | |
| I guess so. | |
| I'll take your word for it. | |
| It sounds like feminism. | |
| I just don't like... | |
| Nah, we'll take your word for it. | |
| I don't like guys. | |
| You're like a Miami girl. | |
| I'm not from Miami, though. | |
| I'm from Panama. | |
| I just moved there. | |
| You're a Tennessee girl in a Miami girl's body. | |
| Tennessee girl? | |
| You're a Tennessee girl in a Miami girl's body. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| You're Tennessee at heart, but outwards, you just happen to have all the pieces. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, that's a good way to explain it. | |
| I'd rather say Alaska girl than Tennessee girl because I went to Alaska. | |
| But yeah. | |
| Your heart is in the woods. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You said you used to do OnlyFans. | |
| Yeah. | |
| When you say you mean, when you said used to, do you mean still currently? | |
| I mean, I am in the process of transitioning from OnlyFans to my new career as a teacher. | |
| Hold on a second. | |
| You're still doing it? | |
| Well, I don't post on it anymore. | |
| But you're still getting paid from it? | |
| It's still open. | |
| Are you saying you want to help guys? | |
| I haven't deleted it. | |
| Sorry, I just keep rocking this table. | |
| It hasn't been deleted. | |
| Hold on a second, but you're still making money off dudes on OnlyFans and you're trying to say that you want to start a school to help guys get that's so like you have such a counterintuitive worldview. | |
| Well, yeah, I guess I gotta do it. | |
| So much cognitive business. | |
| I haven't deleted it, but I'm not making really any money for it. | |
| So it says you're available now on your OnlyFans. | |
| I don't know. | |
| That says you still have your OnlyFans. | |
| It says you're available now. | |
| Well, we already talked about that last show. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You're probably chatting with people. | |
| Chatting with people during the show. | |
| No, no one's going to be able to do it. | |
| You see, you're available. | |
| You've got your chatters working right now. | |
| I don't have chatters. | |
| Actually, after that show, after that show, I had to fire my channel. | |
| And the other side, you've got a little Filipino typing. | |
| Wait, after the show, you had to watch. | |
| No, after last show, they were on my account and I had to fire them. | |
| So now I have to do it. | |
| Your what? | |
| What did you fire? | |
| Who did you fire? | |
| The chatters. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| Good to talk about it. | |
| After the last show, thanks to you guys. | |
| So congrats. | |
| I'll know people were messaging me. | |
| But no, I'm not going to be. | |
| If you had given it up and if you'd, you know, because like I've done plenty of degenerative things in degenerate things in my past, right? | |
| Yeah. | |
| But you could like, you've got to, if you want to say that you want to be a teacher and a helper, you have to have left that behind. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It has to be well and truly deleting it. | |
| I haven't deleted it right this second. | |
| It's not a chatter working right now. | |
| There's not a chatter working right now. | |
| It says you're available. | |
| Really? | |
| Show me where it says I'm available. | |
| Show it on the screen. | |
| We're not going to pull it up. | |
| Okay, then show it to me. | |
| Show it to me. | |
| I'm not going to turn it around, but it literally says, can I stand up and go look to see where it says I'm available? | |
| No, you're just going to have to take our word for it. | |
| Oh, so it doesn't even say I'm available. | |
| Okay, Brian. | |
| So now, because you could just show me right now or pull it up. | |
| Even if you're still willing to pull up. | |
| Even if we granted that, it's still up. | |
| You're still making money off it. | |
| I'm not making money off it. | |
| And then, you make money, you don't really make money off subscriptions. | |
| You make money off messaging. | |
| But are you making money off it? | |
| Not really, no. | |
| You're making money. | |
| Are you making a dollar? | |
| She's a pathological liar. | |
| I'm not. | |
| You won't even show me where it says I'm available. | |
| I wonder if this simp is still watching who was super chatting before. | |
| No. | |
| Don't be mean to Bree. | |
| No. | |
| Well, I don't know why you guys got your panties in the twist and are all attacking me. | |
| But look. | |
| No, I'm just throwing you out. | |
| I don't want to be on OnlyFans anymore. | |
| That's what I've decided. | |
| That's the thing I've come to. | |
| Cool. | |
| So I'm leaving it. | |
| And why would I come on here and say, oh, I don't want to be on it anymore? | |
| Wouldn't it be better for me to say anything? | |
| Clearly, what you're doing is actually. | |
| It's actually quite sinister, though, because what you've done is you've come in here and you said, I'm like a manifesting virgin or whatever. | |
| And then you're saying, I want to go to school and help guys. | |
| And you're trying to appeal to guys who are watching this show by saying that you'd like to help them. | |
| Oh, she understands me. | |
| And then you're saying, oh, they all slide into my DMs and I talk to them and I relate to them. | |
| And then there might be guys out there thinking, oh my God, I can go and bring it up. | |
| I am not on OnlyFans. | |
| And then you're saying that you want to help them at the very same moment. | |
| You have that OnlyFans still going. | |
| You're directing it. | |
| I don't have OnlyFans. | |
| That is sinister. | |
| I'm not using the OnlyFans. | |
| I am not currently using it. | |
| That's not only dishonest. | |
| That's actually malicious. | |
| No. | |
| So I have a question. | |
| Would it be beneficial to me if I had OnlyFans that I'm currently using to come on a show with a bunch of viewers and say, I don't have it? | |
| No. | |
| It wouldn't be beneficial to me at all. | |
| Wouldn't it be more beneficial for me to come on here? | |
| Friend, use your logic. | |
| Wouldn't it be beneficial if I'm on it? | |
| Because last time I was on it, bro. | |
| Last time I was on it. | |
| And I came here. | |
| Said I was on OnlyFans. | |
| So wouldn't it be more beneficial for me to say that I'm on it and be honest and be like, oh, I'm on it so I get more money? | |
| Wouldn't it be? | |
| Wouldn't it be more? | |
| Okay, I don't know why you put music on, but Wouldn't it be better for me to say that I'm on it if I'm on a place with a bunch of viewers where I will make money off of it? | |
| Obviously, I'm not using it if I'm coming on here in front of everybody and I don't want to use it anymore. | |
| The hell can't. | |
| Anyways, moving on. | |
| What's your argument against that? | |
| No, what's your argument? | |
| I've just literally destroyed your whole world. | |
| You got destroyed. | |
| How did I get destroyed? | |
| I said, I said I'm not using it anymore. | |
| It makes no sense to me why I would come on here and lie about being on it. | |
| You're my favorite liar, Bri. | |
| SJW, facts and logic. | |
| Brie, it's okay. | |
| We forgive you. | |
| No, I forgive you for accusing me of lying because I'm not lying. | |
| I am not using OnlyFans anymore. | |
| If you guys don't want it, I'm not using it. | |
| Did you lie about the virgin thing last show? | |
| No. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| So you're a trans virgin? | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay, well, at least she admits to the trans virgin thing. | |
| We're mate, brief. | |
| Virginity is a mindset. | |
| You could choose what mindset you want. | |
| Brie, we're making progress, okay? | |
| Can I be trans. | |
| Can I be transferred? | |
| Leave it here, Nick. | |
| Leave it at split. | |
| Sorry. | |
| No, but look. | |
| Can I be trans Nick? | |
| Can I be Nick? | |
| I'm not OnlyFans anymore. | |
| I've decided my new career is to help guys. | |
| I want to help guys. | |
| She's also trans natural booty. | |
| Do not subscribe to OnlyFans. | |
| Do not give me money. | |
| I want to help you. | |
| Okay? | |
| I want to help you go. | |
| Anyways, we got to move on. | |
| I'm sorry, Brie. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| No, because you're over here accusing me of stuff and making like putting music online. | |
| I just don't want to listen to that. | |
| No, that's disrespectful. | |
| You need to learn. | |
| No, okay. | |
| Anyway, you got to make it crossed. | |
| Anyway, you got to make it cross-click. | |
| If you come on this podcast and you come on here, one, your number one goal is to attack. | |
| Two, you don't listen. | |
| And three, when people have debates, like I'm arguing back with you on something that you said, you completely ridicule them or make fun of them. | |
| Why don't you listen to what they're saying? | |
| No, I'm just saying it doesn't make sense to you. | |
| But what is the point of this? | |
| What is the point of this? | |
| Okay, you want me to answer? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay, you gotta be quiet, though, if you want to hear my answer. | |
| What is your answer? | |
| Okay, so if we're having a debate and you want me to engage you in the debate, and I say you lie and you say I'm not lying, and I say you lie and you say you're not lying, where else is there to go? | |
| Where else is there to go? | |
| So that's why I'm moving it on. | |
| Yeah, instead of ridiculing, putting silly shit on, putting music on, all that stuff. | |
| No, instead of. | |
| Come on, it's beautiful. | |
| It's a beautiful song. | |
| Bree, don't look at me. | |
| No. | |
| What I'm saying is you come on this podcast for a while. | |
| You come on this podcast to ridicule. | |
| As soon as someone goes against something you say, now they're crazy. | |
| Now they look, now you're ridiculing them. | |
| Now you're making fun of them. | |
| Now you want everyone to bash them. | |
| You, what is the point of your podcast? | |
| Tell me. | |
| Is it really to debate and argue on dating topics or is it to try to make everyone fit into what you want them to fit into? | |
| People can disagree with me. | |
| I don't care. | |
| Okay, so when they disagree with you, instead of making little sound effects and sounding dumb, why don't you actually listen to them and argue back with them or just say, hey, look, we're done here. | |
| And that's it. | |
| If they're arguing in good faith, but you're bad faith. | |
| If you say so, and that's fine if you think that way. | |
| But instead of making little sound effects and trying to ridicule and trying to bash, just say, hey, I'm done with this argument. | |
| Wait, if you're trolling. | |
| Growl Zuludo natives. | |
| Then yeah, I'm just going to be bad faith back. | |
| It is what they just. | |
| I just wanted her to stop talking. | |
| Men don't need your help. | |
| They do. | |
| We don't need your help. | |
| You're literally the last person who's helped any man need. | |
| We establish here that we all agree. | |
| Do you speak Spanish? | |
| Yes. | |
| Men are turning into feminine men and all this stuff. | |
| So we all agree with the same thing. | |
| So someone needs to help them. | |
| Who has the money to help them? | |
| Me. | |
| Who's going to help them? | |
| Me. | |
| Are you doing it? | |
| Are you doing it? | |
| Are you helping men? | |
| So that's your goal in life. | |
| You're saying you want to use your money to help men. | |
| Yes. | |
| Whilst at the very same time, you're taking money off lonely men who are sitting with their cock and hands. | |
| I just said, do not give me money. | |
| I'm not using it anymore. | |
| Do not give me money. | |
| Do not subscribe. | |
| The description is still there. | |
| That's a story, bro. | |
| Well, I'm telling them not to do it. | |
| This is why you're bad faith. | |
| You've been caught out. | |
| Because I'm saying, don't give me money because I want to help you with my money instead of you giving me money. | |
| That's bad faith. | |
| You have an open OnlyFans account and it's been expensive. | |
| So I'm saying right now, don't give me money. | |
| If anyone who's watching this, do not go on my OnlyFans. | |
| Tell me, tell me this. | |
| How much money do you currently have in the bank? | |
| I'm not going to. | |
| Give me a ballpark. | |
| Is it more than $100,000? | |
| Yes. | |
| Would you be willing to give that all to a men's charity tomorrow? | |
| Would I give $100,000 to all of the money in your bank? | |
| Everything you earned off OF because you realized how damaging it was? | |
| Would you give that all back? | |
| Well, that's not everything I earned on OF. | |
| But you give it to me. | |
| I'll take it. | |
| Give me that money. | |
| You are utterly, definitely someone who needs my course. | |
| So I'm going to give you. | |
| I'm going to give you access to it. | |
| Give me a free copy. | |
| I'm going to give you access to it. | |
| The fact that your strategy for this show is to come on and try and promote a course. | |
| But I'm not selling it. | |
| I just said it was free. | |
| It's a free Telegram. | |
| So it's free. | |
| You could go for free. | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, if you move into that's your new pasture, then absolutely. | |
| But I would recommend giving away everything you've earned from OF because you've got to be able to do it. | |
| Wait, let's just disengage. | |
| We got to just disengage. | |
| This is like a waste of time. | |
| All right. | |
| We have to. | |
| As soon as I have valid arguments, it's a waste of time. | |
| Let's disengage. | |
| Let's move on. | |
| No, you don't have valid arguments. | |
| I got to move shit on. | |
| Invalid. | |
| Brie. | |
| Those women should just aspire to be the 1% and be attractive without makeup. | |
| What's good for the goose is good for the gander. | |
| This is in response to you saying, just be confident. | |
| I believe. | |
| I agree that a girl can be attractive without makeup if she. | |
| Just be a 1%er. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Just get up there. | |
| Just be attractive. | |
| Just climb. | |
| Just be hot. | |
| Just climb up there. | |
| Just be confident. | |
| That's not that hard. | |
| It's not that hard. | |
| Just be hot. | |
| He was sorry, a little bit ugly. | |
| And now you look good. | |
| So obviously, if you could do it, anybody can do it. | |
| First off, Jake was a giga chat in both photos, okay? | |
| I object to you saying that. | |
| I was rude. | |
| Good cuddle off. | |
| Well, you need to listen to his tips and tricks, Brian. | |
| Okay. | |
| Cool. | |
| Going back to the makeup thing. | |
| I should make a course. | |
| You should make free telecoms. | |
| You should. | |
| You could be part of my course. | |
| So makeup just. | |
| 1%, guys. | |
| No one's ever done that before. | |
| Put the last thing on the makeup thing. | |
| Makeup is the functional equivalent of a man working at McDonald's saying that he is a lawyer. | |
| That's my view on makeup. | |
| Also, for example, I think one reason why this whole plastic surgery makeup thing is deceptive is aside from just being with a partner who we find aesthetically pleasing, and the motivations for that actually relate to having children. | |
| So can we all agree? | |
| And perhaps I'll direct these questions to you. | |
| Does being attractive confer benefits? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And would you say the benefits of being physically attractive are significant? | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| And this is well studied. | |
| People who are attractive typically have much better life outcomes, treated better, they're deemed to be more trustworthy, even if you don't know them. | |
| They receive shorter criminal sentences. | |
| They make more money. | |
| They have more job opportunities, et cetera. | |
| Considered to be more competent. | |
| Would you guys agree that one motivation of being with someone physically attractive is that you would produce attractive children, offspring? | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So do you agree that we as humans want to confer as many advantages as possible to our children? | |
| Totally. | |
| Okay. | |
| One of those advantages being physically attractive. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yep. | |
| Can a girl be attractive while still wearing makeup, though? | |
| Like she can be naturally attractive still. | |
| right but i mean i think i think like if you find them initially attractive without makeup and then like i if i have um my girl and we go out together and i'm dressed up i'm wearing a suit and she wears makeup that's fine but as long as it's not a matter of when we get home i've got to sort of like hide her in the house totally totally fit Let me just finish my thread on this. | |
| So like humans are competitive. | |
| We want to be rich for ourselves, for the benefit of our children, to provide them with comforts and security. | |
| The same can sort of apply to appearance. | |
| We want to mate with somebody who's attractive so that we have children that are good looking, so that they have a better life and that they can have a better, easier time finding a partner. | |
| Have you ever heard of that Chinese guy who sued his wife because she got all this? | |
| Apparently, I heard it was kids, though. | |
| Oh, really? | |
| I heard it was like a debunked. | |
| It was like some myth or bullshit or something. | |
| That's ruining it. | |
| But so it's like, if I want to marry you, have kids, whatever, and you have like plastic surgery and wear a ton of makeup, whatever other deceptive practices somebody might employ to make themselves more physically attractive. | |
| I mean, you are pulling on some like very powerful biological and evolutionary levers to get me to become attracted to you. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I think you're going for the super hardcore people who go from like the pictures that we saw already. | |
| Well, let's say it's a scale, right? | |
| Let's say it's a scale from like no makeup to like full-on glam, right? | |
| So, I mean, like maybe most women land somewhere in the middle. | |
| I mean, you're still like, you're not full glam. | |
| You're not like as deceptive as you can be, but you're somewhere in the middle. | |
| You're not that attractive. | |
| You're not, even if you're wearing minimal makeup, you're still doing it to improve your physical appearance. | |
| That's not how you actually look. | |
| You're playing a little trick on men's brains. | |
| But what if you're okay with it when she's natural? | |
| Like if you're attracted to her naturally, but then also when she wears a little bit of makeup, you also think that's really pretty. | |
| Like when you're going out and you're in a suit and she's putting on a dress. | |
| Okay, well, let me ask you a question. | |
| So let's say you date a guy, you fall in love with him. | |
| One of the reasons you're attracted to him is because you think he's super ambitious and he's a wealthy provider, blah, blah, blah. | |
| He says he's a lawyer, but he actually works at McDonald's. | |
| Well, you've just been trapped into this relationship, kind of. | |
| But now you've developed feelings for him. | |
| So now, well, is it okay that I like this person, but you no longer get the benefits of him being what he said he was? | |
| So if in three months, every time you've seen a girl for three months while you're dating, she always wore makeup, then she takes her makeup off and she's less attractive now. | |
| Well, now you've just been baited into a relationship. | |
| Yes, I agree with you on that one. | |
| I'm talking about the naturally pretty people. | |
| Is it okay for them to wear makeup? | |
| And what's your argument there? | |
| You're talking about McDonald's to a lawyer. | |
| That's the same as the pictures you showed earlier. | |
| So what about just the naturally pretty people that wear makeup? | |
| It may very well be the case that a man who, if you wore a bunch of makeup, he would have still been attracted to you and wanted to date you and whatever had you not worn makeup. | |
| So yeah, sure. | |
| Okay. | |
| We land. | |
| agree that yeah I don't I don't think that's uh yeah Okay. | |
| So you're just talking about ugly people wearing makeup. | |
| You're saying ugly people wearing makeup. | |
| That's kind of what you're saying. | |
| That's kind of what I realized. | |
| I'm wearing ugly people. | |
| Wait, can you straighten your mic a little bit? | |
| What was your point? | |
| So ugly people, that's deceiving, but pretty people, it's not. | |
| mean the reality of it is yes but it's okay if it's a pretty if you take yourself from a two to a nine yeah that's pretty bad Like we just saw that. | |
| There was like some threes there that took themselves to a nine, Glam. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| But if you're already an eight and you take yourself to an eight and a half, I mean. | |
| How would a three get your attention then? | |
| If you don't want her to have makeup on, how does she get anybody's attention? | |
| She's not going to. | |
| She has to just have a nature of reality. | |
| How can you expect her to not try to? | |
| No, but hold on, but you're. | |
| She plays in her league then. | |
| She dates threes. | |
| Don't try to be dating sevens. | |
| Yeah, threes date threes. | |
| It's a hard lie. | |
| Have you seen threes out there? | |
| What about you? | |
| Hard luck with a threes. | |
| You're trying to ask us to. | |
| Are you saying that all of these guys, you're like, guys can't get girls. | |
| They can't get y'all. | |
| So how is it different? | |
| Are we supposed to date down then? | |
| This is a minority of women. | |
| Like these threes will still date up. | |
| They'll still probably get themselves a six. | |
| This does happen. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Women date up. | |
| What should the threes do? | |
| Date threes. | |
| Yeah, like if you're a three and you just put all this makeup on yourself and you somehow manage to professionally get yourself to a nine, then you're in a position now where you're entering a lie. | |
| Your whole relationship is predicated on a lie. | |
| Brian, this isn't to attack you, but you called yourself a five, so are you dating other fives? | |
| Like those girls, some of them were fives. | |
| So were you dating, would you date some of those girls? | |
| He was talking about physical appearance. | |
| Yeah, I was talking about physical appearance, and I do think it's the case that men, for example, can date outside of their looks range based on other metrics. | |
| Yeah, okay. | |
| But like, yes, I have no problem dating a woman who's average looking. | |
| That's totally fine. | |
| Okay. | |
| But I do think like a guy who's average looking, but let's say he has a bunch of status, like Drake, for example, don't think he's like that good looking of a guy, but he's rich and famous. | |
| He's fucking women who are much more attractive than he is, physically speaking. | |
| That's how it is. | |
| That's the game. | |
| No? | |
| Yeah, no? | |
| Well, you just, I'm not trying to take shots at Drake. | |
| I think he's an average-looking dude. | |
| He watches the show. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Does he? | |
| That'd be dope. | |
| That'd be dope if he's in. | |
| So I think men can tend to make up. | |
| And actually, women can make up for it in other ways too. | |
| How? | |
| Well, for example, I would much rather date an average-looking girl who's like super pleasant, submissive, does a bunch of other shit, versus like a really hot girl who's like just an absolute terror and obnoxious, motor-mouthed. | |
| But that's not everybody. | |
| Yeah. | |
| No. | |
| But like as a woman, you can make yourself appealing by, you know. | |
| I'm going to tell Drake what you said. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm going to tell him. | |
| That's fine. | |
| I don't have any issues with Drake, but he's an average-looking guy. | |
| I think objectively speaking. | |
| He has. | |
| Yeah, I agree. | |
| I could use Mike Horse. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So, I don't know. | |
| What were we talking about? | |
| I don't even know. | |
| We have a couple more pre-show. | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| What did we have to get through? | |
| Hold on, guys, one sec. | |
| Let me get to some of the pre-show notes here. | |
| Let's see. | |
| Sorry, guys, I'm pulling up my notes. | |
| We have Jessica. | |
| Oh, wait, did I finish with Ryan? | |
| Wait. | |
| Brian not wanting a woman with a high body. | |
| Oh, that duplicates KJ's, I think, right? | |
| Yeah, we touched on that. | |
| Okay, we already touched on that. | |
| We're going to go to Jessica here. | |
| Jessica. | |
| Jessica says, I've had a guy pretend to be a Christian to get with me. | |
| Yikes. | |
| And then stabbed me in the back when I told him I didn't like him back. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So he's like atheist or something. | |
| Judas. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So essentially, at that point, I was going to a non-denominational church, and I was raised Catholic. | |
| I'm Catholic now. | |
| And I think I was relying on a lot of the fluffy things, like the coffee shop next to it and a lot of the music and stimulation to hopefully introduce him to the Lord. | |
| So I didn't rely on the faith and the fact that Jesus is enough as he is. | |
| So I think that was one of my first mistakes when I was trying to introduce him to the faith. | |
| But we were in a friend group and everything was going well. | |
| It was until he asked me out to prom and we went as friends that he just completely switched up on me when I said a couple times that I still wasn't interested in him, even though he had officially said he was converted to Christianity. | |
| And he just completely spread horrible rumors about me. | |
| And the friend group was a disaster after that. | |
| And he manipulated kind of what he thought that I was looking for in a man to try to have a relationship with me. | |
| And I still wasn't interested in him. | |
| What did he say about you? | |
| Can you give us the rumors? | |
| Well, his friends were saying that I sent nudes to them, which everybody who knows me knows that I wouldn't do that. | |
| So everybody was laughing when they heard about that question. | |
| So if we went snooping around on the internet, we wouldn't. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Secret only fans. | |
| Just a lot of very awful things for a person that I thought I trusted. | |
| And that was my first emotional relationship. | |
| He went all the way to like converting for you. | |
| Yeah. | |
| My man was into you. | |
| Holy shit. | |
| Hold on, Nick. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Well, I'm going to come right back to you, Jess. | |
| Nick, pull up the private chat. | |
| Brie, look at me. | |
| Look at me right now. | |
| Brie, Brie, just look at me. | |
| Don't look at the private chat, Brie. | |
| Brie, look at me. | |
| Look at me. | |
| Don't do it. | |
| Nick, pull up Brie's first Instagram story. | |
| Go to the window once you get it. | |
| Go to her IG. | |
| You can just click on it. | |
| First one? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh, wait, before you do, hold on, hold on. | |
| I'm going to read these. | |
| Brie is a pathological liar. | |
| She linked her OnlyFans on her Instagram story less than 24 hours ago. | |
| And he sends that through twice. | |
| He also sent it through as an NT. | |
| What currency is NT? | |
| He lies. | |
| NT currency? | |
| Where? | |
| Oh, new Taiwan dollar. | |
| Oh, yeah, it's not much, bro. | |
| Wait, yeah, that's like, bro, bro, you're a little, that's goblin shit. | |
| Hold on. | |
| NT, wait, so 200 NT? | |
| Hold on, how much is that? | |
| Six bucks, bro. | |
| That's a. | |
| You little goblin, bro. | |
| Okay. | |
| Taiwan last year. | |
| Okay, Nick, pull it up. | |
| Just go to the Instagram, click on her first Instagram story. | |
| Got it. | |
| But he's not white. | |
| These are the click. | |
| Are you able to click on the more part? | |
| No, just click. | |
| Do you want me to? | |
| No, we can't go to it. | |
| Bro, that's your fucking OnlyFans link, dude, on your Instagram. | |
| Well, I didn't say when I quit. | |
| I quit. | |
| No. | |
| So you're a liar. | |
| You're a liar. | |
| See, did you see the pushback she gave when I called her a liar about this? | |
| You literally have it in your bro. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| No, I quit starting today. | |
| Honestly. | |
| You didn't ask Wayne. | |
| I said, I'm in the transition. | |
| This is great. | |
| What are you trying to achieve by doing this? | |
| What's the goal? | |
| Well, you're on a show. | |
| She just puts it in. | |
| Can you guys put up everything on your own? | |
| Is money the goal? | |
| No. | |
| You guys put up everything on your own. | |
| Listen to me. | |
| Listen to me. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It's done. | |
| The act is over. | |
| What? | |
| She won't. | |
| Let's try and have a real conversation now. | |
| No, she won't. | |
| Let's try and have a real conversation now. | |
| You can't, bro. | |
| You're on a show right now with over 10,000 people watching, and you've just been exposed for lying. | |
| We all knew you were lying. | |
| It was obvious. | |
| Your grift has been exposed, and you were saying that you wanted to help men. | |
| And I know you don't realize because you probably haven't quite logic this out enough that what you've actually done tonight is pretty sinister. | |
| And it's pretty malicious because you've come out in one side of your mouth saying that you want to help guys and you want to teach people and help men to be better and that you care so much about men. | |
| Whilst on the other side of your mouth. | |
| Oh my God. | |
| Let me ask you something. | |
| Is being on OnlyFans that detrimental to men's society that shifting the goalposts. | |
| Who cares? | |
| You lied. | |
| Okay, but no, I didn't lie because I am quitting. | |
| I said I was in the process of transitioning out of it. | |
| And you guys said, what does that mean? | |
| What does that mean? | |
| Can somebody clip the part where she's like, I'm not on OnlyFans? | |
| Exactly. | |
| I'm not. | |
| You're just, you're a liar. | |
| And what I'm trying to ask is, like, what's the point of it? | |
| Is it money? | |
| Because you've just been exposed lying and being two-faced on a podcast. | |
| And I know you don't care. | |
| You're trying to troll, and eventually you want people to sign up. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm right with that comment. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But is it worth it, though? | |
| Because you might make a few thousand bucks. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| You might make a few thousand bucks, but your image is now tarnished forever. | |
| You look terrible. | |
| Terrible. | |
| No, I'm going to ask you something. | |
| Tarnished. | |
| How is it for? | |
| No, how is it for money? | |
| Like, what did I do? | |
| Did I ask you to pull up my OnlyFans? | |
| Did I ask you to pull up my Instagram? | |
| Did I even ask to come here? | |
| Brian asked me to come here. | |
| How you've shifted responsibility from yourself there is some very high-level mental gymnastics. | |
| And I'm impressed. | |
| No, I'm saying I didn't ask you guys. | |
| So if my goal was to make money out of this, one, I would have asked to come here. | |
| Brian invited me back. | |
| So you've come in here with your Muis out. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Actually, I invited you boys to be on with Andrew Wilson for last Sunday because Andrew Wilson was going to excoriate you, but unfortunately you canceled because apparently, what was the excuse? | |
| I had a cyst on my over. | |
| I had surgery on my cyst, so don't even get involved. | |
| Yeah, but you're supposed to be on with Andrew Wilson. | |
| Well, that was my idea. | |
| I can actually add beautiful. | |
| It was really painful. | |
| I wish I didn't have that cyst, but okay. | |
| But anyways, I, like I said, he invited me back on here. | |
| I came back. | |
| Last show didn't go well. | |
| He invited me back. | |
| I came back. | |
| Well, he kicked me off at the end. | |
| I don't know why. | |
| Actually, I think it was a big W because you admitted to having chatters. | |
| Whoa, who fire my chatters. | |
| So anyone who goes on your OnlyFans will never ever talk to you. | |
| And you say that you speak to guys and you reply to my DMs. | |
| You don't talk to anybody. | |
| You're lying about it. | |
| Actually, guys can show screenshots of them talking to me on Instagram. | |
| Oh, they can show screenshots of someone talking. | |
| They can also show screenshots of someone talking to them on OnlyFans. | |
| Well, no one has chatters for Instagram. | |
| That's ridiculous. | |
| No, that's unheard of. | |
| If someone were to go through Instagram DMs and actually answer everything. | |
| But anyways, like I said, I didn't ask you guys to pull up anything. | |
| So if my goal was to make money, I wouldn't be able to do it. | |
| You just pull up my Instagram. | |
| Pull up my OnlyFans. | |
| Subscribe. | |
| No, I'm not saying any of that. | |
| You're just a liar. | |
| You're not making any sense. | |
| And it's tragic. | |
| And I'm sorry that you're doing that. | |
| I said the opposite. | |
| It's tragic. | |
| I said the opposite. | |
| That's not me. | |
| That's Nick, bro. | |
| No, you. | |
| Take it up with the name. | |
| Take it up with the Nick. | |
| Take it up with the other name. | |
| With your little. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| I'm not controlling that. | |
| It's fucking Nick over there. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| Nick's just. | |
| All right. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| This is why you get no pictures. | |
| This is why you have no homes. | |
| I got no bitches. | |
| I got no hoes. | |
| No's. | |
| I'm down pad. | |
| You are very down bad. | |
| Down bad. | |
| Anyways, my goal is not on here to try and make no money. | |
| The course is free. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| There's a telegram. | |
| It's free. | |
| Brian, what do you gain from me? | |
| Let me ask you that. | |
| What do you gain from that? | |
| Stop using my line of questions. | |
| No, what do you gain from that? | |
| No, what do you gain from that? | |
| What do you gain from that? | |
| Okay. | |
| Anyway, if I were to come on here to try, and I'm just going to look at you because I'm talking to you. | |
| I don't care about this. | |
| I don't care about them. | |
| I don't care about what Brian's doing. | |
| I'm talking about you. | |
| You're not going to fucking fire stone upon you. | |
| If my goal was to make money, I would come on here and I would promote something that I would make money. | |
| Don't you agree with that? | |
| I will match you. | |
| I hear what you're saying. | |
| I will fuck you up. | |
| Brian, if you want to have like a podcast where people can actually see what's going on, maybe you should like not do that so we can listen. | |
| Because he can't hear what I'm saying. | |
| I don't like you. | |
| Okay. | |
| You asked me to come back on here. | |
| You asked me to come back on here. | |
| I didn't ask to come on here. | |
| So that is the number one thing. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| I didn't ask you to pull up anything. | |
| Okay. | |
| So besides that, I'm not promoting anything. | |
| I said, don't give me money on OnlyFans. | |
| Yeah. | |
| What? | |
| Go ahead. | |
| You just said you're not promoting anything. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You literally posted your link on your story, but everyone saw it. | |
| Everyone knows you're a liar. | |
| You can try and defend yourself. | |
| Honestly, I hope you make a few thousand bucks. | |
| I said I don't need a few thousand bucks. | |
| I could tell you that for you. | |
| Then what are you doing here embarrassing yourself in front of the whole world? | |
| I'm not embarrassing myself. | |
| I came on here because he invited me and I was like, you know what? | |
| I'm going to go back on there. | |
| Maybe I'll be better this time. | |
| It's not, but we're on here. | |
| Might as well make the best of it. | |
| I'm not going to stand up and walk out. | |
| He asked me to come back on here. | |
| If it was me asking to come on here, it's one thing. | |
| He asked me to come on here. | |
| Hey, good for you not making a point. | |
| Okay. | |
| I already said I am making a point. | |
| I'm not promoting anything. | |
| I said, do not give me money on OnlyFans. | |
| She asked a bunch of other girls to come on as well and they will operate in the future. | |
| No, she asked to come on here. | |
| I'm pretty sure most of them asked to come on here. | |
| Sorry. | |
| We weren't invited, but she said she asked to come on here. | |
| And that's her experience. | |
| Yeah, for you. | |
| God help any man who goes knee you in a relationship with her. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| God help him. | |
| Imagine trying to have an argument with her. | |
| Imagine trying to jam some logic in her. | |
| Honestly, that's soothing comparison. | |
| I could fall asleep to that after hearing you. | |
| No, that is so childish This is why this shit is falling off This is content for you? | |
| This is content for you. | |
| Honestly, this is the most happy time ever. | |
| This is not content. | |
| But then, once again, I come on here. | |
| I got one question for you, Brie. | |
| I got one question. | |
| You ready? | |
| Are you ready for the question? | |
| You sure you're ready for the question? | |
| Hold on, it's not going to be bad. | |
| Are you my Caucasian? | |
| Brie, are you my Caucasian? | |
| I'm Hispanic. | |
| You can be like white Hispanic. | |
| I'm Hispanic, 100% Panamanian. | |
| But you're like, are you white Panamanian? | |
| No. | |
| You're not white? | |
| No. | |
| Like, your skin color is white, though. | |
| Like, there's like ethnicity and then there's race? | |
| Why? | |
| I'm white. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't want to look at it. | |
| I'm tasty. | |
| Brie, are you my Caucasian? | |
| Are you my Caucasian? | |
| Like, Jake is my Caucasian. | |
| Alexa's my Caucasian. | |
| Jessica's my Caucasian. | |
| I'm Hispanic. | |
| You're half my Caucasian. | |
| KJ is my Caucasian. | |
| I can't believe I remember these people's names. | |
| Wait, Jet, is your name? | |
| I'm Hispanic. | |
| I don't know who's caucus. | |
| My Caucasian. | |
| Gustavo's my Caucasian. | |
| He's got a Latin name. | |
| She's definitely my Caucasian right here. | |
| God damn. | |
| Look at this girl right here. | |
| Okay. | |
| She's my Caucasian. | |
| Are you my Caucasian? | |
| I'm Hispanic. | |
| Bree. | |
| I'm Panamanian. | |
| Are you my Caucasian? | |
| I'm Panamanian. | |
| Are you my Caucasian? | |
| I'm Panamanian. | |
| Are you my Caucasian? | |
| I'm Hispanic. | |
| But are you my Caucasian? | |
| I'm not white. | |
| Are you my Caucasian? | |
| Answer the question. | |
| Are you my Caucasian? | |
| I'm Hispanic. | |
| Are you my Caucasian? | |
| What does that mean? | |
| Yeah, like what? | |
| Like my Caucasian. | |
| Am I yours? | |
| I'm not yours. | |
| No, bro. | |
| What? | |
| No, not like that, Bri. | |
| Well, you just asked me, am I yours? | |
| Well, I'm not yours, and I'm not white. | |
| Like you. | |
| Oh, wait, hold on there, right? | |
| Oh. | |
| I was going to say, she doesn't get it. | |
| She just doesn't get it. | |
| I'm Hispanic. | |
| Well, Panamanian. | |
| I've said Latina's house. | |
| Is anybody here Latina? | |
| Can you ask her if she's your Latina? | |
| Are you my Latina? | |
| Can you ask me in Spanish? | |
| Do I es mi Latina? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Like, you might really speak. | |
| It still doesn't make sense. | |
| This shit has gone off the rails. | |
| Answer her question, though. | |
| Are you her Latina? | |
| Am I her Latina? | |
| If you want me to be yours. | |
| Okay, I need to. | |
| Listen, I was having a conversation. | |
| I was trying to have a conversation with Jessica over here. | |
| We've been waiting all night to get to her dope show-info, Brie. | |
| We've given you a lot of attention. | |
| I'm going to ask you to just, you know, you know, just. | |
| I was quiet for most of this time. | |
| I've been. | |
| Let's hear Jessica out. | |
| I've been thinking about it. | |
| Let's hear Jessica out for a little bit. | |
| And every time I talk to you, didn't you want to debate her? | |
| Every single question for me? | |
| Yeah, didn't you want to debate her on pro-choice, pro-life? | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Okay, you guys can go for like three minutes. | |
| I'm just going to get up and get it. | |
| All right, you guys debate for a few minutes. | |
| I'm going to call you back. | |
| Okay. | |
| What is your argument? | |
| Yeah, human life biologically begins at conception. | |
| This is a scientific fact. | |
| And I think that it's the bare minimum to say that human beings should not be killed against their will. | |
| So I think the right to life precedes any other right. | |
| You can't have the right to bodily autonomy if you're not alive and you don't have a life. | |
| So I think the right to life needs to precede any other human right. | |
| Are you just talking about babies or everybody? | |
| Human beings whose life starts at conception when the sperm and egg meet and then cease to exist and create a new world. | |
| Okay, again. | |
| What about the death sentence? | |
| Like for really I'm against the death penalty. | |
| Death penalty. | |
| What about like if they do something like really, really, really bad? | |
| I'm still against the death penalty because that's a human being. | |
| I don't believe in killing human beings. | |
| I think we're bringing back organized crime and we should be getting rid of the people I need to be getting rid of. | |
| So I am pro-choice in that sense, not because of the babies, but I just think we need to get rid of the people who are going to be able to do it. | |
| What about when it comes to abortion? | |
| Are you pro-abortion? | |
| I think actually, I don't believe that an innocent person should be murdered. | |
| But if they deserve it, 100%. | |
| Get rid of them. | |
| Yeah, so innocent babies in the womb should not be killed against their will. | |
| Is that what you're arguing? | |
| Because they are innocent and they haven't committed anything. | |
| Yeah, they haven't done anything. | |
| So you do think that's a baby in the womb? | |
| Well, dull. | |
| What else is it going to be? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Do you guys agree with that? | |
| I agree. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It's a baby. | |
| What do you think, Jess? | |
| When it comes out, what is it? | |
| It's a baby. | |
| So in there is a baby. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I'm in between because I feel like pro-life and pro-choice, you can't, it's such a loaded question to ask someone if they are either. | |
| So I have very different opinions about both sides. | |
| Yeah, it goes into so much. | |
| Do you believe in any limitations on abortion, or do you think it should be banned at any point? | |
| I think past the first trimester, yes. | |
| And why is that? | |
| Just because it's more developed, that's all. | |
| I don't think that abortions should be used as a birth control, like lots of people do. | |
| And I think that there's certain situations that women should be allowed to have abortions, but obviously, you know, we can't really legally say, like, oh, what is, well, maybe, like, ask, like, what is your reasoning? | |
| Yeah, I don't know. | |
| I don't really like debating pro-life, pro-choice. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, so in the first trimester, do you think that that's not a child, but in the later trimesters it becomes a child? | |
| Is there like a definitive point of when human life begins? | |
| I'm not. | |
| Like, why would you choose that point to limit it instead of earlier on in the pregnancy, like maybe when a baby has a heartbeat three weeks after conception? | |
| Do you think that they deserve any protection once they have a heartbeat? | |
| It's hard because I feel for both the mother and the child. | |
| So honestly, I am just. | |
| It's hard to say. | |
| It's a really hard decision. | |
| Do you think you'd be willing to have your mind change if you heard a convincing enough argument? | |
| Maybe. | |
| I find that oftentimes with these debates, despite the fact that, in my opinion, abortion, the pro-choice side, I mean, sorry, the pro-choice side, the pro-abortion side, is indefensible, in my opinion. | |
| If you engage in an intellectual debate about it, it's indefensible. | |
| Because the scientific facts of the matter is that every single biologist in the world will tell you that human life starts at conception when the sperm meets the egg. | |
| So after that, then you have to give me an excuse as to why it's okay to take a life. | |
| And for me, there's no excuse as to why you can take a life. | |
| If you were to see the data that all biologists believe that life starts at conception, would you be willing to open to change your mind? | |
| Can you repeat that? | |
| If you could see the data that says that all biologists, worth their salt, say that life begins at conception, would you be open to changing your mind on your position? | |
| I don't have my mind made up on either position. | |
| So you would be open to it? | |
| To being pro-life? | |
| Yeah. | |
| To being 100% from conception. | |
| I still don't think so because I think I'm too empathetic about both. | |
| Do you think that it's a matter of empathy though? | |
| Because if you're establishing that it's a life indication. | |
| I'm sorry, not empathy, sympathy. | |
| Okay, but would you have sympathy for the life? | |
| I would have sympathy for both the baby and the mother. | |
| But you'd have sympathy for the baby and you'd kill it? | |
| You'd want it to be killed? | |
| I never said that. | |
| Oh, but if you take that position, then you're not going to be able to do that. | |
| I never said I want babies to be killed. | |
| And I never said that I want women to have to give birth to... | |
| But if you take... | |
| This is a philosophical debate, so we're operating in hypotheticals. | |
| And if you take the position that you are pro-choice with the foreknowledge that life begins at conception, you're then arguing to take a life. | |
| So if you say you have sympathy, I don't think having sympathy is necessarily a good argument as to why that's okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| Like I said, I never said... | |
| But this is where, often with young females like yourself, no offence or anything, but you're very boneheaded about this because it's such a heavy political issue. | |
| And Gail's marching the street and put their pink pussy hats on. | |
| And let's kill our kids, kill our kids. | |
| That's the thing is, I'm not, like, huge on this topic. | |
| Like, I don't debate for these kind of things. | |
| Lots of things I don't really tend to debate on. | |
| I came on this podcast because of like dating time. | |
| No, I appreciate you engaging in it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But I'm just not a protester. | |
| I don't. | |
| I don't. | |
| Are you an atheist? | |
| I'm open to. | |
| I'm learning about religions right now. | |
| Okay, which ones? | |
| I took a class two years ago when I first started college. | |
| I can't remember like half of the religions I learned about, but I'm open to Christianity and Buddhism right now. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about Buddhism? | |
| What about it sort of interests you piques your interest? | |
| Just the spirituality of it. | |
| I'm still learning. | |
| I didn't learn much from the class that I took, but I'm trying to learn more about it now. | |
| There are two very different religions. | |
| Because Christianity has a very supernatural element, whereas Buddhism is kind of like a way of life. | |
| I have no idea what I believe in right now because I'm more of a scientific person, and it's hard to just believe that there is a gateway waiting for me when I'm done with my lifetime. | |
| I think there's a lot of evidence that Jesus is God and that his claims are true and the things he says about himself are true. | |
| Because just looking at the Bible, there are 73 books that were written over the course of 1,500 years in three different continents by over 40 authors who some of them lived in different generations and didn't have any contact with each other whatsoever. | |
| Yet they came together to form this one congruent story. | |
| And Jesus has fulfilled over 300 Old Testament messianic prophecies. | |
| And the probability, since you said you're into science and more scientifically minded, the probability of somebody fulfilling even eight messianic prophecies is one in 10 to the 17th power, which is one with 17 zeros behind it. | |
| If you were able to fill up coins on the ground, you would fill up the state of Texas two feet deep if you filled up that. | |
| That's the probability of somebody fulfilling eight messianic prophecies, but Jesus fulfilled over 300. | |
| The probability of somebody fulfilling 48 prophecies is one in 10 to the 157th power. | |
| So if you lined up electrons, it would take you 19 million years to count all of those electrons. | |
| Basically to say it's humanly impossible, statistically impossible, for anybody to fulfill those prophecies, yet Jesus did. | |
| That was some impressive memorization. | |
| I do have to bring it back to dating here, but Jess, to get back into some of your notes, you said that you got into a total lost car wreck on your first date with your now ex, I think who you mentioned earlier on. | |
| You said, who ended up being my first official boyfriend, even though you cried to him for hours, told him to find someone better, and after the car wreck, I dated him for a whopping eight hours before you broke up with him? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Wait, what? | |
| It's kind of a crazy story, but basically on our first date, I wrecked my car, and he was my passenger, and we were just going across the street to get something from his house. | |
| So I, I mean, it's awful. | |
| It was a car accident, it was horrible, and it was a total loss. | |
| But I wasn't really concerned with the car accident or the fact that I lost my car. | |
| I was more concerned with the fact that I just humiliated myself in front of him. | |
| And he, so I told him, like, this is kind of the way my life is looking right now. | |
| I think maybe you should find somebody else. | |
| And I'm so sorry, I almost killed you. | |
| And he, so that's why I was crying for so long after the car accident. | |
| And he told me that he still wanted to pursue me, and he initially chose me because we have a lot of similar values. | |
| And so he still wanted to continue going out with me. | |
| And I'm like, you're kind of insane for that. | |
| But I, so yeah, then I officially dated him for eight hours after that as boyfriend, girlfriend, before I got way too much anxiety and told him, like, this is not going to work out. | |
| And then a couple months later, when I started talking to somebody else, I went on like two dates with this guy, went to lunch with him one morning, went to mass with him, went to a movie. | |
| And then he tells me that he still has feelings for me. | |
| And he said, you probably don't feel the same because you're the one who said it wasn't going to work out. | |
| But at the time, like, I was having these weird dreams about him all of a sudden. | |
| I'm like, this is going to be hanging over my head for the rest of my life if I decide not to kind of pursue this and see if there's anything worth it here. | |
| And it kind of just boiled down to the fact that we weren't compatible and that's why we ended up breaking up. | |
| But we also decided not to kiss until marriage, like the first month in, which was an extreme decision and something that I never saw myself doing. | |
| But it needed to happen because we had a lot of problems, underlying issues, and we would kiss and make up and everything was fine. | |
| And so because of that, we didn't actually get to the bottom of why we weren't compatible. | |
| So when we decided to wait for marriage until we became intimate in any way whatsoever, then a lot of those problems were able to surface. | |
| And and then so you guys had kissed, but then you decided to stop just kissing. | |
| And. | |
| And it was very helpful to actually stay. | |
| It was harder for you or him to do that. | |
| I think it was probably harder for him. | |
| You weren't that attracted to him, were you? | |
| I was. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Were you? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, you're waiting for the heart. | |
| Was it hard for you? | |
| It was hard for me. | |
| It was probably just hard for me. | |
| I find that with past relationships myself, you kind of need that intimacy when you're trying to solve problems. | |
| Because as a guy, if you can't hold her, and if you can't, like, you know, do that, then it's very hard to have just a logical conversation. | |
| Just logic, no touching, nothing like that. | |
| Yeah, I definitely see that. | |
| But I think there's so much more in relationships than just the physical aspect. | |
| And for us, that was really helpful because there were a lot of things we weren't talking about because we would just kiss and make up and everything was fine. | |
| Don't you think that's kind of healthy sometimes, though? | |
| Sometimes it is, but it was more of a mask over the problems that needed to be resolved and looked at. | |
| And so are you waiting until marriage when it comes to sex? | |
| Absolutely, yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| And has that always been your standard? | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay, so wait, are you also virgin? | |
| Yes. | |
| Yeah, and I'm just blessed that the Lord has put me in a position to be able to stick to that. | |
| Are you a manifesting virgin or a real one? | |
| I'm a real one. | |
| Yes, yes. | |
| These days you can sort of just, you know, transfer your friends. | |
| I think that's coined on whatever podcast transmits. | |
| You can transmit it. | |
| But I give all of the credit to the Lord for just helping me hold myself to that standard because the spirit is so willing, but the flesh is weak. | |
| And so I know that the Lord wants what is best for me and He created me and He knows what is best for me. | |
| And so that is my ultimate goal is just to serve Him and love Him in every way that I can. | |
| And I've seen how waiting, even waiting till marriage to kiss, I've seen how even that has benefited my relationships. | |
| So just a couple, one question. | |
| So the car wreck. | |
| You said you were driving? | |
| Yes, I was. | |
| So like what happened there? | |
| I T-owned a truck. | |
| That's what happened. | |
| A truck. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You know how truck drivers are. | |
| Like a semi-truck or like a crazy because the guy, he was yelling at me at first, and I told him, like, I'll pay for it. | |
| It's going to be okay. | |
| And he had every right to be upset about it, obviously. | |
| But towards the end, he prayed for me and he forgave me. | |
| And it was just like this God moment right there because I didn't see that coming whatsoever. | |
| And we just like prayed with each other. | |
| Oh, that's wholesome. | |
| Were you both okay? | |
| Like, yeah, we were both fine. | |
| Okay. | |
| But the car got totally fine. | |
| Only my pride was hurt, and I shouldn't have had pride anyway. | |
| So it worked out. | |
| Do you think it would have worked out with a guy had you not been in the car crash? | |
| I don't think that really played much of a role in it, except it made me realize how much he did want to pursue me because in my eyes, that was a valid reason to just leave me off the bat. | |
| So I think it made our relationship stronger, if anything. | |
| Got it. | |
| You also said that, well, actually, a couple of things. | |
| So you said couples should wait till marriage to become sexually active. | |
| And I don't think that's the case for you, although you are a virgin. | |
| Is anybody here else here waiting till marriage to have carnal knowledge? | |
| Oh my. | |
| Oh my God, this girl. | |
| Okay. | |
| I should have seen that coming. | |
| Anybody else? | |
| Anybody else a virgin at the table? | |
| Or is it? | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| So it's just you two. | |
| Just you two? | |
| Okay. | |
| You also said that dump your liberal, dump your, I liked this one. | |
| Dump your liberal boyfriend. | |
| Respectfully. | |
| Yes, I agree with you. | |
| So tell us, like, why, why should women not date liberal men? | |
| Well, I think they're generally feminists in a way. | |
| That's what they want to call themselves. | |
| So like you said, they are beta males. | |
| They are not fully living into what it means to be a man, which is to be a provider and a protector. | |
| And a lot of them are very pro-abortion. | |
| So they want sex without responsibility. | |
| They want to enter a relationship and leave it as they will and kind of use a woman's body to get off. | |
| And they don't value women the way that women should be valued. | |
| So I think you should have a liberal boyfriend. | |
| I actually have a shirt that says that. | |
| Wait, really? | |
| Yeah, I should have worn it today. | |
| Is it on your Instagram? | |
| We can pull it up. | |
| It should be somewhere on my Instagram, maybe. | |
| Okay. | |
| I don't know. | |
| You also said that, and this is something I agreed with you on, if a guy can't let you go gracefully, I think this applies to both men and women, but if a guy can't let you go gracefully, he's a walking red flag and someone you want to avoid. | |
| So does that mean if you're in the process of breaking up with him, like loses his shit, like just can't take no for an answer, that kind of thing? | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| I've had so many guys who have just freaked out at me because after one or two dates, I said that I wasn't interested in pursuing anything more. | |
| And that made me realize that my decision was a very valid decision because I would never want to be with a man who can't handle the truth. | |
| And even if it's not what he wants for himself, who can't work through that with me and realize that it's my decision to make as well. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I agree with you. | |
| I think this for both men and women, if someone's like breaking up with you or isn't interested, just move on. | |
| If it's like a genuine breakup, though, because sometimes, and this is kind of toxic, both men and women will do this, but they might like Be they want you to change a behavior, but they'll like I'm gonna break up with you, | |
| but they really just want you to change something you're doing And they have a version of you in their head of what they want you to be and you usually don't fit that version But like if you've made your decision a hundred percent and you don't want this person and then they're like it's getting to like almost like oh, this is scary territory Yeah, that's not a good look like it's better and who knows you know maybe things in the future it's a very sounds like a very liberal thing to do for a guy. | |
| Yes, yeah. | |
| Gonna be in control by his emotions like that. | |
| And that's honestly been one of the hardest parts with dating for me. | |
| And I feel like if a guy is not he just seems to put too many expectations on you from the get-go. | |
| So I sometimes am afraid to go into a different relationship because I'm like, what if he has all of these expectations? | |
| So I think what kind of expectations? | |
| Just kind of entitlement to you and in a way that he needs to earn and he expects it right off the bat. | |
| And he expects that when you show interest right in the beginning that you will continue to show interest. | |
| What do you mean by like entitlement? | |
| What kind of things are we talking about? | |
| Sometimes. | |
| Because I think I would definitely be very entitled at the beginning phases of it. | |
| Like I would be entitled to your exclusivity, that's for sure. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| And to your attention. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And to you giving me like compliments telling me I'm strong and stuff. | |
| I think dating just needs to be more well-defined because I do date for marriage, but I think the first couple of dates before you make it official, it is to see whether or not you're compatible with that person. | |
| And it's completely valid before marriage at any time to say, I don't think this relationship is going to work and I don't want to enter into a lifelong covenant with you. | |
| Yeah, absolutely. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| So I think you shouldn't have those expectations as if one date is committing to marriage. | |
| I agree with that. | |
| How long into the dating process would you say that the submission to the will of the man begins if you do believe in that? | |
| I definitely believe that a woman and a man should submit to each other in a marriage and specifically the woman should submit if the man is worth submitting to. | |
| So if he is living out the word of God and a biblical Christian and submits to God, if he submits to God, then you can submit to him. | |
| And I think maybe two months into the official dating relationship is what are some things that you would say would be red flags where you would withdraw your submission. | |
| I think your best indicator is just knowing the word of God and if he is living in a way that is not in accordance with the word of God, then that's a big red flag. | |
| That's a human being on earth. | |
| Not like if you're repentant of it, that's one thing. | |
| But as long as you hold that to your standard. | |
| Yeah, so if he holds it to a standard but he falls short. | |
| And he repents, then that's still a man that's worth submitting to. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I just think over the course of a relationship, if your submission is conditional, then that can be an issue. | |
| And that can be something that will probably inevitably lead to divorce. | |
| I think that's conditional while you're getting to know him. | |
| But when you realize that you love him and he is worthy of your submission, then that should not be conditional. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But I do think that there is something to that. | |
| The old saying that we were talking about it before, actually, that the neck turns the head. | |
| Were we talking about that? | |
| Yeah? | |
| The man is then you have the neck. | |
| Someone brought it up. | |
| Yeah, the neck turns the head. | |
| I think there is something to that. | |
| There is something to that. | |
| By the way, quick announcement, guys, we're going to maybe go for another 10, 20 minutes. | |
| Just for fun, we're going to reduce the TTS for the rest of the stream to $69. | |
| What a bargain. | |
| So $69 for TTS for the rest of the stream. | |
| Get it in, boys, if you have anything. | |
| Let's see here. | |
| So let me check my notes. | |
| I think I'm pretty much caught up for hitting most of everybody's. | |
| Why you never asked me? | |
| You didn't provide any pre-show notes. | |
| You didn't ask me any pre-show notes. | |
| You've talked about it. | |
| I did. | |
| And you've talked to Flatanza. | |
| But no, let's see here. | |
| Hold on, we have... | |
| Let me just check everything. | |
| Brian, what about you? | |
| What is your opinion on abortion? | |
| Are you pro-life? | |
| Because there's a lot of debate about that. | |
| There's a lot of debate about what? | |
| whether or not you're pro-life who's who's debating whether or not me and my friends It's happening. | |
| Yeah, it's happening behind the scenes. | |
| You might not see it, but it's happening. | |
| You know, truthfully, and this is my truthful answer, I'm undecided. | |
| Okay. | |
| Under what circumstances is it okay to kill someone? | |
| Don't do it, Jay. | |
| Bottom there. | |
| I think there's very compelling arguments. | |
| Very compelling arguments that are made when it comes to the pro-life side. | |
| Absolutely compelling. | |
| Yeah, that's all I have to say. | |
| It's very compelling. | |
| It's very compelling. | |
| I suppose the... | |
| Yeah, I don't know. | |
| What is the most compelling pro-abortion argument that you've heard? | |
| Pro-abortion. | |
| Oh, I don't hear compelling pro-abortion arguments. | |
| You haven't heard any? | |
| I only hear compelling pro-life arguments. | |
| I think that's enough reason to be pro-life. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, that's just my opinion, though. | |
| He's dancing around the circle of life. | |
| Right. | |
| Look, it's very compelling. | |
| It's very compelling. | |
| Come in. | |
| I suppose one argument is not everything that is. | |
| Let's just say that abortion is wrong. | |
| Not everything that's wrong ought to be illegal, right? | |
| I'm not saying that's even my position, but yeah. | |
| But if it's wrong, it's wrong because it's murder. | |
| And don't you think that murder should be illegal in all cases? | |
| No. | |
| Listen, it's a compelling argument. | |
| it's a compelling argument it's very hard to debate from the other side unless you're like no you can't like unless you're somebody who's linguistically very you can't debate it i i i genuinely don't think like they're The pro-life position is like Trenton Horn came on here and absolutely spanked Destiny on this show with that. | |
| But Trent Horn, you can't, you he's, he's a, he's a beast. | |
| So yeah, I mean I guess I kind of just don't like to reveal my position on it. | |
| But I mean, like I'm pretty much. | |
| Is there a line that you would draw that you would pretty much pro-life? | |
| But yeah, I thought I just don't like to reveal my position on it because then it's okay, that's fair. | |
| But did well yeah Brian's, but no, it's I. Just I sometimes I'd rather not share my position on all. | |
| As the host, I try I tend to like want to be able to come across like a little more neutral. | |
| So fair enough. | |
| But she pressured me on it so I got peer pressured. | |
| But I will say that in states or in countries where abortion is legal, I'm in favor of something called legal paternal surrender, where which would to some degree, as best as possible, legalize men's reproductive rights to some degree. | |
| So if women can murder their children, men should at least be able to Relinquish parental responsibility. | |
| Yeah, I would say that would be an absolute disaster. | |
| If you were to do that, then there'd be so many more kids growing up in single mother homes. | |
| And we know what happens in single moments. | |
| We're talking about dogs before. | |
| Dogs shouldn't be in single mother homes because now we don't know how to discipline them. | |
| When it comes to children, they end up in prison. | |
| Women end up feminists. | |
| But you could actually make the argument that the position that I hold on this, where if abortion is legal, then men shouldn't have a financial duty, a parental duty. | |
| You could actually argue that that's a pro-life position. | |
| That's a logical position. | |
| Well, because they would probably, if that was the case, you might see a greater push for making abortion illegal. | |
| Well, I mean, I think a lot, a lot. | |
| Does that make sense? | |
| But two wrongs don't make a right. | |
| And also, but if a yeah, yeah, but if a woman still has access to abortion. | |
| I'm five hours in on the podcast. | |
| I'm not making sense anymore. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| If there was a way that it would be a lot of fun. | |
| You want to ask me about Israel I ran to? | |
| Let's talk about it. | |
| But, no, I mean, it occurs to me: like, hey, if women can get abortion, then men should be able to have a corresponding right to not be subject to child support. | |
| Brian, do you want children? | |
| I don't know. | |
| We'll see how my life goes. | |
| I'd love to see a little Brian. | |
| There's three little Brians running around. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I feel like I have enough problems in my life, so I'm already a little Brian 8.1. | |
| I don't know if I can do that, but yeah, I don't know. | |
| What would you call in the middle of the day? | |
| Brian with the next, Brian with a Y. You can do little variations of how people spell your name. | |
| Wait, where were we? | |
| Imagine if we had little Brian with the hat on in the car, just sitting there. | |
| You have new staff. | |
| Little baby Brian's relayable. | |
| The shizzle. | |
| Did I actually change it? | |
| Did I actually save it? | |
| Hold on, let me make sure I save this. | |
| Whoops, one sec, guys. | |
| I'm making sure that we did actually change it so the TTS has come through properly. | |
| One sec, guys. | |
| Any other dating-related topics anybody on the panel wants to speak about? | |
| Holy shit, I didn't save it. | |
| I'm so sorry, guys. | |
| Hold on. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| My sprinkler goes like this. | |
| comes back like this The fuck? | |
| Thank you, bro. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| We have Tilly for Rilly. | |
| I'm a recipient of the Transfiguration. | |
| Oh, hold on. | |
| It's going to come up here in just a sec. | |
| One sec, guys. | |
| Tilly for Rilly donated $69. | |
| I'm a recipient of the Transfiguration. | |
| Like the boy who cried, Wolf, all those before me ruined the statement, I am everyone and everyone is not me. | |
| Christ is here in me. | |
| Hello, world. | |
| Wink wink. | |
| For shizzle, thank you, Tilly, for really. | |
| Appreciate it, man. | |
| Oh my god, there's a lot coming in now. | |
| Let's see. | |
| Hold on. | |
| We've got a couple coming in. | |
| They're coming. | |
| One sec, boys. | |
| Mooch donated $69. | |
| Shouldn't it be more along the lines of if the mother has the right to abort the child, then the father should have to also sign off on it before it takes place? | |
| I agree. | |
| Well, I don't think any society that's pro-abortion would this would be like a pro-life thing. | |
| You have to get a paternity test and everything. | |
| Can you get paternity tests in the room? | |
| Yeah. | |
| So I don't know if this is the pro-Giorundi donated $69. | |
| Brian with a Y is the name of the spawn of Satan. | |
| Us Brians need to ensure our superiority. | |
| That's true. | |
| Listen, Brian with an I. I'm a Brian with an I what's the supremacist? | |
| Yep. | |
| Sorry, Brian with Y's. | |
| Actually, I had a good friend with a Brian with a Y. | |
| And then we have another one that's coming in. | |
| Yo, Durin dolls. | |
| Appreciate it, man. | |
| Thank you guys. | |
| I should do this more often, like, just so people can see some fun chats towards the end of the show. | |
| Harben is donated $69. | |
| I profile people for a living. | |
| The woman in the pink blazer gives me reptile vibes. | |
| Jessica. | |
| Confirm. | |
| Jessica, confirm or deny. | |
| Are you running the world? | |
| Are you of reptilian descent? | |
| I'm heart reptile. | |
| Are you a reptile? | |
| Couldn't you tell? | |
| Youlluminati, bro? | |
| What was that? | |
| You Illuminati or what? | |
| No. | |
| Probably something like that. | |
| All right, thank you guys. | |
| Really appreciate all those. | |
| And let me see. | |
| Oh, so any other dating topics anyone else on the panel wants to hit on? | |
| Speak now, forever. | |
| your peace. | |
| Come on, guys. | |
| Juler? | |
| Okay. | |
| We'll do body count after this. | |
| Stochastic Decay donated $69. | |
| Good to see you, man. | |
| Hey, brain. | |
| Sorry, I'm late. | |
| Long day. | |
| I've been creating a course for a subject I know nothing about. | |
| Happy to see Gustavo has a girlfriend. | |
| Panel rate your intelligence on a scale zero to 200. | |
| Okay, we'll do that, starting with you. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| I don't rate. | |
| Haha. | |
| Huh? | |
| Okay, I guess you. | |
| I'm sorry, what was it? | |
| Rate your scale. | |
| What would you rate your IQ as? | |
| Well, no, it's not IQ. | |
| I don't think he's asking for your IQ. | |
| He's just saying rate your intelligence on a scale of zero to 200. | |
| 200 being like Einstein? | |
| Yes. | |
| Like the smartest person ever, I guess. | |
| Maybe like 80, 90. | |
| Okay. | |
| I would not go that high. | |
| 40, 50 if we're talking about Einstein. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's such a huge scale. | |
| I would also say 40, 50. | |
| Or probably similar. | |
| 50 something. | |
| 80. | |
| Of that, 100 at least. | |
| I mean, if I was going reading, maybe say like 120. | |
| I'd say about 130. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| There you go. | |
| Zero to 200, guys. | |
| That's like very sad. | |
| You've donated $69. | |
| What dating advice do the girls have for men? | |
| Skip Brie. | |
| We're tired of hearing from her. | |
| Please. | |
| What dating advice do you have for men? | |
| That way a little in my beat. | |
| Hi. | |
| Um. | |
| I would say just have confidence. | |
| That's about it. | |
| I think that's the most attractive thing in a moment. | |
| Septillion, 969, sextillion, 696, quintillion, 969, quadrillion, 696 trillion, 969,696,969,696. | |
| Donated $69. | |
| Thank you very much, man. | |
| Alexa, been all over Jake all night. | |
| Jake, you're gonna shoot your shot. | |
| Also, BRI trash. | |
| Nice. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Okay. | |
| Wait, is this Brie? | |
| Are you rage quitting or are you just standing up? | |
| Oh, she's saying her vape. | |
| Okay. | |
| She heard it, though. | |
| She heard it 69 seasons ago. | |
| Don't worry about it. | |
| Don't worry about it. | |
| It was a compliment for sure. | |
| Going back to the last one, what dating advice do you have for men? | |
| I answered. | |
| Oh, yeah, I would repeat that. | |
| I would just say confidence. | |
| And I know that you mentioned it's a little bit hard for a lot of guys to have confidence. | |
| Literally just fake it till you make it. | |
| Yeah, just step out in boldness and talk to women and learn what it means to be a man and your role. | |
| With my horse. | |
| Be quiet. | |
| Similar to what they said, just shoot your shot. | |
| There's only one way to find out if a girl's going to go for you. | |
| Yeah, get off the dating apps. | |
| Real girls are not on there anymore. | |
| That's good. | |
| Okay. | |
| Number one, I would say find someone that you view as a strong role model. | |
| I think going back to like what's going on in society, a lot of men don't have strong role models for themselves. | |
| Have a good core strong men group that you can confide in. | |
| Confidence is not enough. | |
| Confidence is usually considered creepy if the guy doesn't desire. | |
| Greg Bird, I think there's a line definitely. | |
| Jake, three questions. | |
| Are you Christian? | |
| Where are you from in AU? | |
| What is your 1RM bench? | |
| Yes, I'm a Christian. | |
| I'm from Brisbane, Australia, Bris Vegas, or the Sunshine Coast to be just north of Brisbane, to be more precise. | |
| And then 1RM, at the moment, it's probably only about 95 kilograms or so, but in the past, it's been about 110. | |
| I'm not that strong, unfortunately. | |
| Wish I was stronger. | |
| Oh, wow. | |
| Okay, we got a lot of fun. | |
| Girl on Fevrywright donated $69. | |
| The girl on the very right in the black. | |
| I only paid this amount so I could get your hash or snap. | |
| Mine's Chew Dog 123. | |
| Yes, I made it when I was 10. | |
| Gonna get some dick pics tonight. | |
| Briellas with two I's and three S's. | |
| That's it. | |
| Is that your manager? | |
| That's my snap. | |
| No, I mean, the guy who's somehow. | |
| Oh, I don't know. | |
| Any other disagreements from anybody? | |
| Anyone want to disagree and argue for the last 10 minutes of the show? | |
| Anybody? | |
| Anybody? | |
| I think a man needs more than confidence. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| If you're going up and telling a man that's all he needs, you just got to shoot the shot. | |
| But how many men actually come and shoot their shot with you that you disregard? | |
| Realistically. | |
| Honestly, I'll give a guy I do not find attractive a shot if he at least comes up to me and tries. | |
| That is much more likely than a person. | |
| Yeah, it's just an absolutely different. | |
| That's really attractive. | |
| I think it's also like realistic. | |
| I think it's better that a guy goes up to a girl in person than on a dating app. | |
| I 100% agree with that. | |
| But I think it's also like both men and women need to be realistic of what the expectations are when you go into this. | |
| For someone to walk across a room, like I make the joke all the time. | |
| I know no man walks over across a room to talk to me from my brain. | |
| He might stay because of my brain, but he's not going to walk over for that. | |
| And a lot of women, I've seen it, and I've seen women be so mean to really good, nice guys that come up and try to say hi. | |
| And the girl goes, ill, not worth my time. | |
| You really think you have a chance with me? | |
| Women are vicious when it comes to it. | |
| And I think that it's. | |
| A lot of them enjoy it. | |
| Yeah, and it actually breaks my heart because I work in a male dominant field. | |
| So I see it happen all the time. | |
| And there's a lot of really good guys that. | |
| The guy saved himself then from being with somebody who's an absolute women. | |
| It takes a lot of time. | |
| I like that. | |
| When you get rejected like that, imagine their level of rejection it comes to your face. | |
| Like that's it's one thing if someone doesn't swipe right on you on an app, but for someone to like laugh in your face or to go ill. | |
| I've watched it out of bar. | |
| I've had that happen to me so many times. | |
| Because I approach girls in person quite a lot. | |
| And sometimes you'll be at a bar and they'll be with their friends and they'll get so much pleasure out of rejecting you in front of their friends. | |
| And it sucks. | |
| Like you move on from it after you do it enough times. | |
| Do you regret the ask? | |
| No, not at all. | |
| I don't care. | |
| But like, you know, a lot of guys don't want to do it because why would they want to go through that all the time? | |
| On the topic of advice, though, like, I know you asked the girls, but I heard, I think, I'm not going to steal this. | |
| I think it was Marin from Fresh and Fit says, accomplishments breeds competence, which breeds confidence, yes. | |
| Right? | |
| Accomplishments, competence, confidence. | |
| So, confidence, you can't fake it. | |
| Like, you can't just pretend to have confidence. | |
| And confidence generally comes from having a foundation as a man of having accomplishments and being competent. | |
| So, if you have those things as a guy, and if you're mission-driven, if you know where you're going in life, and if you are on a one-way train there, it's a magnet for women. | |
| Women love a purpose-driven man. | |
| So, that would be the advice. | |
| I'm inviting you to be aware of the video. | |
| Yo, guys, go to twitch.tv. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| There's almost 2,000 of you. | |
| Almost 2,000 of you watching on Twitch. | |
| Guys, drop us a follow and the Prime Sub. | |
| If you're watching and you're not following, do me a little, do me a solid guy. | |
| I'd really appreciate it if you dropped us a little follow because we stream every Sundays and Tuesdays on YouTube and Twitch. | |
| Drop us a follow. | |
| Oh, also, the other reason to follow us over on there on Twitch, Madison is going to be streaming on off days over on Twitch. | |
| And we got some special stream stuff going over there on Twitch. | |
| Well, I didn't want to announce it quite. | |
| No, no, we won't do that shit. | |
| But if you're over there on Twitch, we're going to be doing all kinds of good stuff on Twitch, maybe some gaming stuff too. | |
| So follow us on Twitch. | |
| Thank you guys. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| If you have a Prime job, $123 donated $69. | |
| Thank you, brother. | |
| Girl in the black, I would like to get to know you more showing my genuine interest. | |
| It's my first time watching whatever. | |
| Brian, great job. | |
| Convince to message me right now, ChewDog. | |
| 123.Wilson. | |
| If you feel like talking to a little Filipino, then go for it. | |
| Wait, no, I'm not Filipino. | |
| I'm a Panamanian. | |
| Yo, okay, I'll do Chew Dog. | |
| All right, so Brie, Chew Dog, he rescued me from a bear once. | |
| From a bear? | |
| So you got to DM him back or whatever on Snapchat. | |
| He rescued you. | |
| Oh, you're weak. | |
| You're going to rescue yourself from the bear? | |
| Damn it. | |
| Well, we were camping and I was like sleeping, you know, so I would have just been dead if it wasn't for Chew Dog. | |
| Yeah, they just fight in their sleeps, huh? | |
| If you ever get to the bottom of the bottom, they just don't get mauled in their sleep. | |
| Your program also teaches men how to fend off bear attacks. | |
| You've got experience in that one? | |
| I can find. | |
| I was in Alaska for two weeks. | |
| What part of Alaska were you in? | |
| I was in Anchorage and Fairbanks. | |
| Okay. | |
| And what did you do while you were there? | |
| I went to the forest and saw the Northern Lights. | |
| Did you see the bus? | |
| The McCandless bus? | |
| I was on a train. | |
| I didn't see a bus. | |
| No, do you know what that is? | |
| Have you seen Into the Wild? | |
| No. | |
| Devin Super Tramp? | |
| McCandless. | |
| Does anybody, maybe the viewers know what I'm talking about? | |
| Into the Wild. | |
| It's a great movie. | |
| The soundtrack is fantastic. | |
| Eddie Vetter. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Eddie Vetter? | |
| Hard Sun. | |
| Anybody? | |
| Anybody? | |
| Yo, one in the chat if anybody knows the song by Eddie Vetter, Hard Son. | |
| Anybody? Anybody? Anybody? Anybody? Anybody? Anybody? Anybody? Anybody? Anybody? | |
| Why don't you play it for him? | |
| There's one. | |
| There's two. | |
| Great song. | |
| Great song. | |
| Okay. | |
| What do we disagree on? | |
| What are we disagreeing on? | |
| We're going to wrap in like five minutes. | |
| Speak now forever. | |
| Hold your peace. | |
| Anything? | |
| This is your chance. | |
| You want to say something? | |
| You want to say something? | |
| This is your chance. | |
| Come on, Brie. | |
| Come on, Ree. | |
| No. | |
| This is your chance, Jess. | |
| You got five minutes. | |
| They can't do it. | |
| Yeah, you said that you disagree with many topics. | |
| This is your chance. | |
| You got this, Jess. | |
| I agree with you all thinking that men should be the ones to go up to women. | |
| I think both genders can do it. | |
| I do it. | |
| I'm that's all I can disagree with right now. | |
| That makes him a beta. | |
| That can be true in certain circumstances, but at least in my experience, when I'm the one pursuing the man, it always fails. | |
| And I found the best relationships come from, or the best friendships even come from that. | |
| I'd be really flattered, though, if a girl came to me and said, I prefer one way to do it. | |
| There's a difference between pursuing, though, and planning little scenes and showing your interest. | |
| You can slide into my head. | |
| The thing is, I'm not going to pursue you. | |
| I might quote you, though, but if a guy's busy, any problem. | |
| Two dog 123 donated $69. | |
| Ryan, you're such a G, you need a black guy bot. | |
| It will help me actually have somewhat of a voice. | |
| I also know that song. | |
| What's your favorite R and B song girl in black first, then so on? | |
| Add me on Snap BTW. | |
| Oh my god. | |
| When I see you by Fantasia. | |
| When I see you. | |
| Who sings that? | |
| Fantasia. | |
| Let's keep it that way. | |
| Excuse me. | |
| What was that? | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| They asked everybody. | |
| He asked, and so on. | |
| What's your favorite RB song? | |
| I think it was just you. | |
| Oh, girl in black. | |
| Your girl in black. | |
| Oh, shizzle. | |
| Who am I going to rate on Twitch? | |
| Let me, any final. | |
| I wonder if I have any final. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Dumb Dog Saw donated $70. | |
| To Jake, always good to see a fellow Aussie making it. | |
| You said you're Christian. | |
| Which denomination? | |
| Also, to what extent should men show emotion in front of women? | |
| Never. | |
| I'm not denominational at the moment. | |
| I actually put this out on my Twitter last week and I was having a bunch of Roman Catholics and Orthodox reaching out to me. | |
| So I haven't picked a denomination. | |
| I'm not sure if I will. | |
| But yeah, I'm not even going to say what I'm leaning towards. | |
| Showing emotion in front of women. | |
| I mean, here's my theory on it. | |
| I think that you should never show raw emotions in front of your girl. | |
| You should do that with your guy friends, with your male friends, if you ever really need an out. | |
| However, there are little moments when you should do it. | |
| It's a Sunday morning, you're in bed together, you're just talking, and she wants to briefly get inside your head, see what's going on with you, but you only let her in for a little bit, then you get up and go to the gym. | |
| Leave her wanting more. | |
| Just little bits. | |
| Drip feed it. | |
| Perfect for my course. | |
| Do you think women should show emotion to men? | |
| Absolutely, yeah. | |
| But the thing is, a man should be able to sort of take that. | |
| But if you show, like, I know girls who have told me openly that it full-on turned them off, guys, and made them break up with them. | |
| I feel for those people. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's rough. | |
| But like, there's no, there's no joy in it for a guy. | |
| If you're crying to your, to your girl, there's no, you know. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Either your brothers or your friends, whatever, if you really need to, if you're really going through it. | |
| But with your girl, I mean, maybe. | |
| See, I feel like it's different if it's like your girlfriend or like your wife. | |
| I feel like if it's your life partner, it's one of those things, like if you have a moment of vulnerability with your life partner and you drop the wall. | |
| No, I get it. | |
| I get it for a moment. | |
| I think it happens, but I think it's also as the partner that woman's responsibility. | |
| God bless the crime, donated $69. | |
| Christ his king. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| I appreciate it. | |
| Yeah, no, it's true, but I do think that a woman has a biological reaction to a man crying where she instantly thinks he can't protect me. | |
| Not me. | |
| I was going to say. | |
| But I think that's what I'm saying. | |
| It depends on what it is. | |
| If you cry, because you lost it. | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| Say that one more time. | |
| I think it's sexy when a man cries, not when he's super heartbroken. | |
| Do you think when he's praying or when he's at church or whatever? | |
| I think that's beautiful. | |
| But I can understand that from the religious perspective when they're praying when they're really not if he's like crying all the time and emotionally unstable. | |
| But if he's crying because someone said something mean to him today and he comes home, he's like, well, that's ridiculous for anybody to cry. | |
| Yeah, well, that's what we mean, though. | |
| But I do. | |
| If you don't really like pray, then you can't really understand this. | |
| But I can understand from that perspective if a guy's really in that state. | |
| But, you know, just crying because he's had a bad day or whatever. | |
| It's unacceptable. | |
| Most guys don't really do that anyway. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Good shit. | |
| But if you need to let it out, go, the boys. | |
| Good. | |
| We're in the shower. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Cry in the shower. | |
| As far as the initiative conversation, though. | |
| As far as this initiative, I think definitely it's good if a girl just hits you up first. | |
| I think that's the best way. | |
| I think a lot of girls, I think a lot of girls make a big mistake with this particular thing these days. | |
| Because if a guy is the kind of guy that you're attracted to, he's going to be pretty busy. | |
| And he's going to be on his purpose. | |
| He's not going to be sitting there messaging. | |
| It's like the last thing I'm thinking about. | |
| But if she checks in with me every day, every two days or whatever, that's great. | |
| And I'm not ignoring you. | |
| I'm just busy. | |
| It's the last thing I'm thinking about is texting girls. | |
| I hate texting girls. | |
| So what is too forward for you? | |
| Or is there such a thing for a woman to be too forward? | |
| I normally, I'll actually tell a girl straight up because you get girls that message you and whatever. | |
| And I'll just be like, hey, look, I don't like small talk. | |
| I'm not interested in talking to you. | |
| I'll just say that straight away. | |
| I'll say it though, so they're not wasting their time. | |
| Yeah, I'll just tell them straight away. | |
| Hey, listen, I appreciate it, but I'm not into small talk. | |
| If we're in the same city or whatever, we can hang out. | |
| But if I don't say that, it probably means that I'm interested. | |
| There you go. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You know, listen. | |
| Like if they send a DM, you know. | |
| Juice donated $69. | |
| Brie just yawned and deep-throated me. | |
| Please have her legal have her stand in the corner for three minutes in silence. | |
| Wait, shall we do a timeout for Brie for three minutes? | |
| Okay. | |
| Wait, hold on, Brie. | |
| Before you do that, I gotta give you. | |
| Oh, fuck it. | |
| There we go, hold on. | |
| Where's this one? | |
| All right, Bri. | |
| You gotta wear. | |
| I'm not wearing that shit. | |
| Brie, put it on. | |
| Brie. | |
| It would look so cute on you, though. | |
| Okay, yeah, go into the corner and just face the corner. | |
| Don't sit, just face. | |
| Just get in the corner. | |
| There you go. | |
| Think about what you've done. | |
| Think about what you've done, Brie. | |
| Okay, good. | |
| I have a question. | |
| Did she actually do that? | |
| Did she do that? | |
| Did you do it, Bri? | |
| Hey, look into the corner. | |
| Hey, look, she's listening. | |
| It's good. | |
| There you go. | |
| Okay, I have a question for the gentleman. | |
| What's up? | |
| What dating advice would you like to give to the ladies after what you've heard tonight? | |
| Oh. | |
| After what I've heard tonight. | |
| I would say don't be afraid to be a little bit of a simp. | |
| If you like the guy, send the text and everything. | |
| Girls often tell it, oh, don't be too forward, whatever. | |
| Don't do this, don't do that. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| If you like him, show him you like him. | |
| We appreciate that a lot. | |
| Whereas I find a lot of the times when I've been in the talking stages with a girl, even if I like her, I'll discard her because she's not forward enough. | |
| Well, if she's putting in effort and you like her, will you put in the same effort? | |
| No. | |
| Why? | |
| Because we're not the same. | |
| Well, because I feel like. | |
| It's not really motivating. | |
| As a man, you don't want to be necessarily pursuing a girl. | |
| We just heard before that you got the ick because guys were too keen. | |
| We don't get that same ick. | |
| But if I'm pursuing you and putting in all of this effort, generally it's going to give you girls the ick. | |
| And also, I'm busy. | |
| I'm not putting in the effort. | |
| It's just not happening. | |
| Okay, so do you expect a woman to keep putting in the same effort while you're not doing the same thing? | |
| You ever heard the song The Tide is High? | |
| No. | |
| Early 2000s. | |
| Tide is high, but I'm holding on. | |
| I'm going to be your number one. | |
| I'm not the kind of girl who just gives up just like that. | |
| One of the most beautiful feminine souls. | |
| Okay, so when I said that she's just going to keep holding on. | |
| When I said that. | |
| And one day she'll be on the one. | |
| I like that attitude, you know? | |
| That's a dream. | |
| I actually have a perfect answer to this, Alexa. | |
| Yeah, let's see what Nick, you know what to do? | |
| Pull up the bow video. | |
| I was about to say, this is the bowing video. | |
| She has to bow. | |
| I totally agree. | |
| She has to bow. | |
| Okay, so let's see it. | |
| Oh, hold on. | |
| We've got to watch the video first. | |
| Okay, I got questions. | |
| Bow and cook. | |
| I think it's really allowed to watch. | |
| We can cook. | |
| Brie's watching, bro. | |
| Yeah, she can cook. | |
| It's okay. | |
| I'll allow it. | |
| I'll allow it. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| Boom. | |
| Huge. | |
| See that bow? | |
| Great. | |
| All right. | |
| I just come home to my penthouse apartment that I'm paying entirely. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Boom. | |
| There's the shirt. | |
| Yep. | |
| That's getting folded immediately or put in the laundry, you know. | |
| Okay, food's ready. | |
| Dinner's ready. | |
| Just got home from a long podcast. | |
| Getting the drink, stirring the noodles. | |
| Check this shit. | |
| Boom. | |
| Attentive. | |
| Attentive. | |
| Submissive. | |
| Good technique. | |
| Happy about it. | |
| One more time, Nick. | |
| Show the bow one more time. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Huge. | |
| Yes. | |
| That's awesome. | |
| Boom. | |
| yeah that's what a girl should do honestly actually we had she went on the first date and she just she started the date with about Did she get broken? | |
| Bro, I would fucking marry her right now. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| She hits me. | |
| First off, it would be funny as fuck. | |
| Like, if you mad, you went on the date with a girl and she gave you a cute little bow. | |
| Let's try that now. | |
| Instantly, like, it'd be the best. | |
| Yeah, we can't. | |
| I'd be sad about that. | |
| No, I wouldn't. | |
| It'd be kind of like that's what I mean by it. | |
| It's simpy cute. | |
| It's simpy. | |
| We like simpy shit. | |
| That does not work. | |
| You don't get it. | |
| We like simply. | |
| Oh, I'll send it to you. | |
| I'm actually going to try it. | |
| Just try it. | |
| But like, do it like a little juggler. | |
| Jug with small steps and then. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| I think they'll like it. | |
| Wait, let's ask the chat. | |
| Let's ask the chat. | |
| Chat, would you, would you be like, would that be cool for you? | |
| If all else fails, but chat, would you be down for that? | |
| What? | |
| Nick, could you pull up the chat? | |
| Get that. | |
| Would you be down for the bow? | |
| Chat. | |
| Yes, for the bow. | |
| Would you be cool with the bow? | |
| Would you be cool with a bow or not cool with a bow? | |
| Yes or no? | |
| Yes or no in the chat? | |
| Yes or no in the chat. | |
| I'm just kidding. | |
| Namaste. | |
| Seems like people really like the bow. | |
| How did it screen so fast? | |
| Wait, did Brie just hit a bow? | |
| She did. | |
| She did it. | |
| She did well. | |
| Yeah, I did it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay, that's cool. | |
| Okay, good times. | |
| Yeah, I think just honestly, like, just hit us with a bow every time we see you. | |
| That's it. | |
| That's all you got to do. | |
| There you go. | |
| I'm not even joking. | |
| I think that shit works. | |
| We had a girl like two shows ago who said, like, well, I watched your podcast. | |
| And I was like, I wasn't sure about the bow thing, but I just tried it on. | |
| I think she was dating a guy. | |
| And she was like, yo, that shit works. | |
| Oh, my gosh. | |
| She tried it and it worked. | |
| Also, learn to cook as well. | |
| Can everyone hear cook? | |
| Can no one not cook? | |
| Can anyone not cook? | |
| No? | |
| Yeah. | |
| I went to the table, but yeah. | |
| I'd say make these things known. | |
| Make these things known as well on the first date. | |
| If you can cook, brag about it a little bit, you know, slip it in there. | |
| If you've got a good relationship with your father, slip that in there. | |
| Guys like hearing that shit. | |
| If you've got a good relationship with your brothers and stuff, get it in there. | |
| Whenever I hear that stuff, I'm looking for it. | |
| I'm always asking questions in a roundabout way to see if they've got a good relationship with their dad, to see if they can cook, to see if they like to see if they're clean, not tidy, but clean. | |
| One advice I will give to women is like, make it a monthly goal to master a certain dish on YouTube. | |
| Like just go and learn like your favorite dishes. | |
| So every month you learn different. | |
| That's cute. | |
| It actually works really well. | |
| I'm not going to lie. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh, cook. | |
| Question for the viewers on Twitch and on YouTube. | |
| Nick, could you put the center cam? | |
| So, guys, I don't know if you noticed. | |
| We got a new table. | |
| Unfortunately, it like wobbles. | |
| And like, and that's me and Nick affixed something to like a an anchor point or I don't know what to call it. | |
| Uh, so it's wobbling less. | |
| It was wobbling like way more than this. | |
| I mean, I'm just pressing with my fingers now. | |
| Hold on, let me do it here. | |
| I'll do just one finger. | |
| Just my just my one finger. | |
| It wobbles that much. | |
| Guys, this I a question for the chat though. | |
| Is this an acceptable amount of wobble for a table? | |
| Because I spent a lot of money on this table. | |
| This is a big table. | |
| What was wrong with the last table, dude? | |
| So, okay, so guys, here's the thing. | |
| This table has a center base. | |
| The issue with the previous table, this one is six inches. | |
| It's still square, but it's six inches bigger on each side. | |
| And it doesn't, the previous table had legs on the corners. | |
| They were awful. | |
| Which is annoying for people on the corner. | |
| So I thought, okay, let me get a table with a center thing so that people can put their legs in and they're not getting those on the corner on getting fucked. | |
| This is much better, I'm not going to lie. | |
| But because it has a center fucking thing, it wobbles. | |
| So, chat, is a table supposed to wobble this much, chat? | |
| Nick, can you pull up the chat? | |
| I can't see it. | |
| You know what you need? | |
| You need pipe stands. | |
| Is a table supposed to wobble this much? | |
| A foot in. | |
| More wobble. | |
| This is crazy, bro. | |
| Holy fuck. | |
| Yeah, you get four stands on there. | |
| Yeah, you just need it further in. | |
| But what stands? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Is there something I buy on Amazon? | |
| Yeah, it's like one of those shower things. | |
| Sort of like that. | |
| But what's it called? | |
| What's the name of it? | |
| I'll send you the link. | |
| Okay, well, I've got a feeling that Spencer would be able to do this. | |
| So what it does is if anyone pushes on it, it'll be stable on each corner. | |
| You just need four of them. | |
| Get Spencer to do it. | |
| He strikes me as a guy who's good with his hands. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'll check you out as well. | |
| That's Gustavo. | |
| But guys, what do you think of the new table? | |
| Like, aside from the wobble? | |
| I mean, you probably, it's the same color, so you guys probably can't tell. | |
| But what do you guys, you guys like the new table? | |
| I will say, as like a guest, this is great that I don't have the leg right here because it's very awkward if you're in a dress. | |
| It is beneficial, but it is kind of awkward too because it's like, you can't touch it now. | |
| Like we typically do three, three, three. | |
| And with the other table, it was always like you couldn't fit three people. | |
| But here, I think it's pretty good. | |
| We can fit three people on each side. | |
| And it'll be better if we ever have bigger panels, which we sometimes do. | |
| We aim for nine, but I think this table would better accommodate it. | |
| But this wobble is fucking unacceptable. | |
| So. | |
| Wait, one. | |
| So is this a normal amount of wobble boys? | |
| Wobbly wobble. | |
| Is this a normal amount of wobble? | |
| The comments are so. | |
| Is it a normal amount of wobble boys? | |
| Okay. | |
| The other thing, Nick, were you able to pull up those dudes' Instagrams? | |
| The whole scam shit. | |
| All right, guys, really quick. | |
| I'm just going to, I already talked about a previous show. | |
| Boys, I got scammed. | |
| If you know the story, if you got, were you able to pull it in incognito? | |
| Okay, bro, this guy scammed me for $2,000. | |
| I'm still looking for a lawyer. | |
| Why are you laughing, Brie? | |
| What'd you get? | |
| Hold on, I'll tell you. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm not going to tell the whole story, but I'm still looking for a lawyer in Dubai who can go after these scammers who scammed me out of $2,000. | |
| It's David Spearman and Ciara Stevens. | |
| Yep. | |
| And David blocked me after I made my previous comment because, yeah. | |
| If anybody can help me in any way, I would appreciate it. | |
| I've looked into your scam problem and found a solution. | |
| Thank you. | |
| If you wire me $5,000, I can put a claim into small claims court and you'll get it back if we win. | |
| No cap. | |
| Thank you, brother. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| I'm going to send that right away. | |
| Yeah, man. | |
| If anybody knows any lawyers in Dubai, guys, I got to get my money back. | |
| I'm going to do this every show until this fucking guy. | |
| Basically, here, I sent him $2,000 back in February. | |
| He was going to help me get some, like get a social media thing, and then he never delivered. | |
| He said it would take a couple days, never delivered. | |
| Excuse after excuse after excuse. | |
| I asked him for a refund. | |
| He refused. | |
| He said he would give me a refund. | |
| He didn't. | |
| Got scammed. | |
| $2,000. | |
| I'll survive, obviously, but that's still, you know, fucked up. | |
| It's a principle of it. | |
| It's fucked up. | |
| Go after them. | |
| Why are you laughing, Brie? | |
| Wait, you know people in Dubai for sure. | |
| Yo. | |
| She's been flirt out there multiple times. | |
| Oh, that was. | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, that was before you were on the show, but you know some peeps in Dubai? | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Brie, you got the connect? | |
| Have you been to Dubai? | |
| No, but 5K for the list of connections. | |
| Oh, yeah, okay. | |
| All right. | |
| So if anybody can help me, anybody, if you can help me try to get my money back, I don't know. | |
| You're a fucking lawyer in Dubai. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Shit. | |
| Anyways, GG, well played to everybody. | |
| I thought it was a good show. | |
| I thought it was a good show. | |
| One more thing. | |
| No more virgins. | |
| Banned virgins. | |
| No more virgins. | |
| Boom. | |
| What? | |
| Wait, Stan. | |
| I've got two virgins here. | |
| You can't say that. | |
| No more virgins. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Don't worry about it. | |
| I don't even get that. | |
| Don't you know your worst day? | |
| I do. | |
| I was a virgin for 22 years, and then Brian came on here, and Brian was like, look, I was about to say what you said. | |
| Brian was like, look, Brian. | |
| That's like the plan. | |
| I'm not where you need to be in life. | |
| All right, guys. | |
| I got it. | |
| Okay. | |
| After last show, me and Brie had carnal knowledge. | |
| What? | |
| I'm kidding. | |
| I'm going to kill myself. | |
| That's probably the meanest thing anyone's ever said. | |
| Just kidding. | |
| No more virgins. | |
| Just kidding. | |
| Wait, okay. | |
| So, guys, those of you, oh, Nick, can you pull up Twitch really quick? | |
| Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever. | |
| Drops a follow, drops a prime sub. | |
| If you have one, if you have Amazon Prime, you can link it to your Twitch and support the show every single month. | |
| Drop us a follow, drop us a Prime sub over there on Twitch. | |
| Thank you guys for all the support over there on Twitch. | |
| This might have been a viewer of record. | |
| I don't even know, guys. | |
| So thank you so much. | |
| Really appreciate all the support. | |
| Also, guys, you know, doing these shows is stressful. | |
| You know, I'm probably, I'm starting to lose my hair, guys, so I'm going to need to go to Turkey pretty soon. | |
| So I need all the support. | |
| I need all the support I can get, guys. | |
| I need your patronage. | |
| You know, the stress of doing the show. | |
| My hair's just, it's going to be, it's receding. | |
| So, um, guys, you know. | |
| You can come with me when I come get my nose done. | |
| I'm a warrior. | |
| I'm a, I'm a. | |
| I get my nose done and then do it. | |
| Anyway, Brie, you have a beautiful nose too. | |
| Yeah, go ahead. | |
| Do not touch your nose. | |
| I'm just going to give a shameless plug really quickly. | |
| I've got my podcast, which we've been working on for a while. | |
| It's called Reality Based. | |
| You guys can find that on Spotify, Google Podcasts, Apple Podcasts. | |
| We've got episodes with Vivek Ramaswamy on there. | |
| We have got Rachel Wilson. | |
| We did an hour and a half with her destroying feminists. | |
| She is the feminist destroyer and we destroyed feminists. | |
| We've got Andrew Wilson, my whole interview with him, amongst many others. | |
| So reality-based on Spotify, Google, Apple Podcasts, and obviously Rattlesnake TV. | |
| I just. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Those of you, I want to do the outro here. | |
| So, GG, well played to the panel. | |
| We are going to do a raid on Twitch. | |
| So, if you guys can hang out for just a sec. | |
| Last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out. | |
| Thank you for tuning in tonight. | |
| You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me. | |
| I appreciate that. | |
| Thank you to everyone who so generously supports, or excuse me, who super chats, supports, donates to the show. | |
| Your patronage is immensely appreciated. | |
| Without you guys, we wouldn't be able to do the show because we almost never get any sponsors. | |
| So, really appreciate it, guys. | |
| We will be live again Tuesday with our boy Jake here. | |
| We got some very good shows lined up, but we'll be back live Tuesday, 5 p.m. Pacific. | |
| Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram. | |
| If you can make it to Santa Barbara, and then if you guys hang on here for just a sec, Nick, if you can pull up our favorite grandma over there on Twitch, guys, those of you who are on Twitch, I will be doing a raid. | |
| I like to raid people who, you know, they have typically like smaller followers just to show them some love. | |
| So, she's got about 300 people watching right now. | |
| She's 82, I think, if I recall. | |
| She's playing World of Warcraft. | |
| We're going to do, Nick, could you pull it up? | |
| So, we're going to raid Wo Grandma 78. | |
| Oh, my gosh. | |
| She's eating her chips. | |
| She's ready. | |
| Just when you think the perfect woman doesn't exist. | |
| Yeah, does that squeeze? | |
| Do you want to show you? | |
| Okay, raid. | |
| Oh, shit. | |
| I sent the raid too soon. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Sorry, Twitch. | |
| I didn't say she. | |
| Goodbye. | |
| What is her name? | |
| We got Glow. | |
| She's playing World of Warcraft Classic. | |
| Bro, she's got a better streaming setup than we do. | |
| Well, that's the whole sense. | |
| That's the most amazing thing I've ever seen in my life. | |
| I'm inspired right now. | |
| That's someone's grandma. | |
| I'm trying to see if the raid went through. | |
| Can we get her on the poll? | |
| I'm trying, bro. | |
| I'm trying. | |
| I'm trying to get it. | |
| Shout out to my grandmother. | |
| She just celebrated her 79th birthday yesterday. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Happy birthday. | |
| Did the raid go through? | |
| Happy birthday, grandma. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I wonder, did the raid go through? | |
| I'm just checking here. | |
| I'm waiting for her to be like, who are all these people? | |
| Whatever. | |
| Oh, hi, kids. | |
| Oh, hi. | |
| Welcome, whatever. | |
| Welcome, whatever. | |
| I love it. | |
| Wait, Nick, could you check on Twitch if the audio? | |
| Oh, my gosh. | |
| She's my hero, right? | |
| She's playing World of Warcraft. | |
| Oh, she's playing retail. | |
| Okay. | |
| Guys, be nice to her, though. | |
| Oh, actually, I've said that before I sent you guys over. | |
| Be polite. | |
| You know, don't, don't, don't, be nice to her. | |
| She's a sweetheart. | |
| So, yeah. | |
| Anyways, cool, cool. | |
| We did the raid on Twitch. | |
| I think that's it. | |
| 07's in the chat. | |
| Let me just double check, make sure. | |
| Okay, we're all good. | |
| Yeah, guys, 07's in the chat. | |
| 07's in the chat. | |
| Sorry, guys, I'm just checking on one other thing. | |
| What is going on? | |
| Sorry, my YouTube's like bugging out over here. | |
| What's going on with my YouTube? | |
| What the hell? | |
| Awkward. | |
| Okay, we're good. | |
| All right, 07's in the chat. | |
| I hope you guys have a good night, and we'll see you guys on Tuesday. |