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She Came To DEBATE?! Andrew Wilson! Traditional Escort?! Traditional Stripper?! | Dating Talk #143

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	Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, my name is Adeline Starr.
	I am 26.
	I'm originally from Texas, but now local to LA.
	And I do professional things.
	I'm also a media personality and streamer.
	So just a variety.
	Professional things.
	What does that mean?
	Corn.
	Okay.
	I think I have a pretty good idea what you mean.
	All right.
	How long have you been doing that for?
	I've been in the industry for actually this month makes about three years.
	So, yeah.
	You said you're originally from Texas?
	I don't know if I just detecting a bit of an accent.
	Also, I'm local to Texas.
	Born and raised, Texas.
	Just moved here.
	Yeah.
	Okay, got it.
	What about you?
	My name is Lexi.
	I'm 23 years old, and I'm a legal courtesan.
	Now, for people who don't know what that is, what is a legal courtesan?
	A legal escort in the state of Nevada at the Moonlight Bunny Ranch.
	All right, and you offer your services, which are what?
	Why are you looking at me though?
	Adult entertainer.
	Okay.
	I was just trying to figure out the wording.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	What about you?
	My name is Meg.
	I'm from Australia, and I'm 34, and I'm studying personal training.
	And I'm sort of running an Instagram about dating coaching, but it's not really serious at the moment.
	Okay, maybe we'll pull up some of your Instagrams in a bit.
	What part of Australia are you from?
	Brisbane.
	What's the rugby team out of Brisbane?
	I didn't know.
	Do you know?
	Okay.
	I used to remember in years past.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Angeline.
	I was born and raised in Oxnard, California.
	I'm 21 years old, and I'm an exotic dancer.
	Okay, welcome.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Rose.
	I'm 21 as of this month, and I'm from New Jersey.
	What do you do?
	Oh, I'm a waitress.
	Wait, school at all?
	Yeah, I go to school.
	I go to college in New Jersey, but waitressing on the side.
	What's your major?
	English and criminology.
	English and criminology.
	I don't know what I want to do.
	Do you go to Rutgers?
	No, TCNJ.
	Okay, got it.
	Okay, cool.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Selena.
	Into the mic.
	I'm Selena.
	I'm 37.
	I'm a stay-at-home mom, and I'm a student.
	My daughter, she's four months old.
	And I'm from San Antonio, Texas.
	I was like, oh, there's one more.
	I was forgetting what it was.
	San Antonio, Texas.
	I'm Allison.
	I'm 30 years old.
	I'm originally from Rhode Island, but I currently reside in Scottsdale, Arizona, and I'm a school counselor.
	I'm Morgan.
	I'm a Turning Point USA contributor and political and cultural kind of everything commentator.
	I'm 24 years old and I've been doing this for about three, four years.
	And I live in Phoenix right now, but I'm from California and Texas.
	All right.
	Welcome, everybody.
	So we're going to go around the table.
	Oh.
	Well, hold on now.
	We have one in person.
	My name is Andrew Wilson, host of the One and Only Crucible, one of the, if not the fastest growing debate channel on the internet.
	Thank you guys for having me.
	It's a pleasure to meet you all.
	All right.
	Welcome, everybody.
	So we're going to go around the table once more.
	What is your current relationship status?
	So are you single, talking stage, situation ship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule, sex cult?
	Whatever it may be.
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Go ahead.
	I'm currently in a relationship.
	How long have you been in that?
	It's recent.
	Three months.
	Three months?
	What's your longest relationship?
	Two years.
	Two years.
	Are you sure you're from Texas?
	Yeah.
	I'm detecting like a not.
	What do you think?
	I'm detecting a not-American accent.
	I'm American.
	No, I see what you mean.
	But then, like, she'll talk again.
	I'm like, oh, she does have an American accent.
	Are you like intermittently putting on like a.
	No, I'm half Hispanic, half white.
	I've grown up all over.
	I've traveled all over.
	So some enunciations or pronunciations or whatever you want to call it might differ.
	So, yeah.
	Your accent.
	You also are just hearing me for the first time, too.
	Sure.
	Your accent has been colored by your many travels.
	We'll just say that.
	Okay.
	So you said you're recently in a relationship.
	Is it monogamous?
	It is.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	And I've been single for about two years now.
	All right.
	Longest relationship?
	Like three years.
	Three years?
	So you've been on the whatever podcast.
	Is it two or three times?
	I believe this is going to be my third time.
	Is this your third time?
	I think so.
	Any dating prospects at all since your last appearance?
	Nope.
	Nothing?
	Nope.
	Zilch?
	Nope.
	You were on dating apps, right?
	Previously?
	Nope.
	No dating apps?
	Are you currently on any dating apps?
	Farmers only?
	Not even farmers only?
	Christian Mingle.
	Christian Mingle.
	Tinder, Hinge, Bumble.
	Nothing?
	Nothing.
	Nothing?
	Nothing.
	You promise?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So you are you.
	I was about to ask if you're celibate, but that's a pretty stupid question to ask.
	Are you civilianly celibate?
	Yes, actually.
	Is that a word?
	Civilianly?
	Civilian.
	Yep.
	In a civil.
	Civilian.
	It makes sense to me.
	It makes sense to you.
	It makes sense to me.
	What about you?
	I'm engaged.
	All right.
	Engaged.
	How long have you two been together?
	About three years, but I've known him for about seven years.
	Three years.
	Longest relationship?
	Seven years.
	Seven years?
	Yeah.
	But that's not your current.
	No, that was my previous partner.
	Were you previously married?
	No.
	No?
	Okay.
	How long have you been engaged?
	A year, maybe?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And who proposed to who?
	My partner, my fiancé.
	Okay.
	He refers to me.
	Okay.
	Nope.
	Things are changing.
	It's 2024.
	No, you definitely prefer to me.
	Women are proposing to men.
	No.
	Men are proposing to men.
	So it's all good.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm single as of right now.
	How long have you been single for?
	For like three months?
	About three months.
	Three months?
	About three months?
	Yeah.
	Longest relationship?
	A year.
	One year.
	Yeah.
	My ex, he was actually on this podcast.
	He was the first guy you interviewed.
	Oh, Brandon?
	Brandon.
	Oh, okay.
	Does he know that you're coming on today?
	Yeah, I was like.
	Oh, you told him?
	I was like, where's the address?
	I was like, I don't know.
	Please don't.
	No, I wasn't.
	Okay, okay.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	You were answering me, so.
	Yeah.
	Okay, just.
	No, I wasn't going to say the address.
	Hold on one sec.
	Are we getting okay?
	Some of you were saying it's fine.
	Chat, can you tell us what your issues are?
	Are you guys lagging?
	Is the frame rate bad?
	Is the show quality bad?
	Maybe try doing a refresh, but one in the chat if the quality is an issue, two in the chat if you're saying we learn ethics.
	Yeah, okay, we're gonna keep going.
	Was that the guy who so you said you've been single for three months?
	So the previous guy you were dating, is that Brandon?
	Yes.
	Wait, just kindly remind her when you speak.
	We need you speaking into the microphone.
	Okay.
	I apologize.
	It's okay.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, yeah, I'm in a relationship.
	How long?
	It actually was five months as of like two days ago.
	Five months.
	Grid one Motorsports donated $100.
	I am 53, retired from TN, married, two kids, and a raging headache.
	As an unofficial member of the panel, I represent the patriarchy and all it offers reforming feminists.
	That is Gridwin Motorsports.
	He's also part of the panel today.
	And he's also been part of the panel in many other of our shows.
	So what?
	Thank you for joining us once again to the whatever podcast, Grid One.
	Appreciate you.
	Welcome, welcome.
	So five months, longest relationship?
	I don't know, like a year, about a year, maybe.
	One year.
	Okay.
	How much, and when was your one-year relationship?
	That was in high school.
	That was a long time ago.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I've been with my husband five years.
	That's my longest relationship.
	Can I have you just tilt your mic down just a little bit?
	Okay.
	Perfect.
	Okay, five years.
	You're married, right?
	Yes.
	Five years.
	And that's your longest relationship, you said?
	Yes, we were together less than a year before we got married.
	Okay.
	Yeah, five years.
	Dating like six years total.
	Five years total.
	There's four years total married.
	Oh, yeah, we just celebrated our four-year anniversary.
	Okay, but so together, five years.
	I see.
	Okay.
	And you have one kid, two kids?
	I have two.
	Two kids.
	I have an 18-year-old who lives in LA.
	That's why I was out here.
	Okay.
	And a four-month-old.
	Gotcha.
	And different fathers?
	Correct.
	I see.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm currently single.
	I've been single for about five years now.
	And my longest relationship is about seven and a half years, almost eight.
	Sorry, what was the last part?
	Seven and five years and what?
	It was about a seven-year relationship, seven and a half years.
	Okay.
	And so you've been single for five years.
	Yes.
	So from 25 to 30.
	Yes.
	I've only been casually dating, I would say, in that period of time.
	This most recent period.
	In this most recent five-year period where you've been single, what's the longest period of time that you've seen anybody?
	I've noticed kind of a trend, like three to six months has kind of been like the mark.
	Yeah.
	Did you consider any of those your boyfriend or did it never get into that?
	Yeah, at one point I did, but it lasted about three months.
	And there were certain reasons why we broke up.
	Why did he dump you?
	I actually ended things.
	Oh, excuse me.
	Yeah.
	Whoa, Brian.
	Excuse me.
	Because he's presumptuous.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Very.
	Some values just didn't align.
	Okay.
	So your 7.5-year relationship, was that from like 18 to 25 then?
	You got it.
	Yep.
	Throughout college.
	And then I went to grad school and moved in.
	Were you guys engaged?
	No.
	Any kids with anybody?
	No.
	Why did that 7.5-year relationship end?
	One day he just came to me and he was like, hey, it was a nice ride, but, you know, I don't want to do this anymore.
	And he gave me a pat on the back.
	Pat on the back?
	No.
	That was it.
	It was a tough time.
	Can you demonstrate on Morgan the pat on the back?
	It was a nice ride.
	Oh, wow.
	Wow.
	That's sad.
	Yeah.
	Seven and a half years.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Okay, wow.
	Good times.
	But so you've been single for five years.
	Correct.
	Are you on dating apps?
	I am.
	I'm currently on Bumble.
	Just Bumble.
	What about Hinge?
	Anything else?
	I got blocked from some of the apps randomly, and I don't know why.
	I did too.
	I got blocked as well.
	Yeah.
	And were you guys soliciting money?
	No.
	Like, here's my cash app.
	No, I actually got blocked for bullying.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Why don't you tell us that story real quick?
	I don't know.
	There was just some men on there that were like a little too entitled.
	Tell us about the bullying.
	What the fuck?
	What were you doing?
	I can't even manage you.
	I knew you, right?
	Yeah.
	Some guys, like, they thought they were great and I don't know.
	Had to.
	What did you do?
	Come on, give us the details here.
	You just roasted them.
	How?
	How did you roast them?
	It could be anything.
	It could be anything.
	I don't know.
	One guy like bleached the tips of his hair like blonde and I just kept calling him frosted tips and he didn't like it.
	So, but what did he, so okay, you said they were kind of being maybe entitled or whatever.
	So how were they being, how were they acting for you to start roasting them?
	Entitled and demeaning.
	Okay, give us an example.
	Give us a...
	Well, very objectifying.
	They would be hitting on me in like rude ways in the sense that like, I'm trying to think of an example.
	Like send you a kind of emojis.
	Vulgar emojis.
	Emojis and vulgar talk.
	Like it started with the emojis and then it led to like vulgarity.
	Let's hear it.
	Okay, did any of them say something along the lines of, excuse me, madame?
	I wish to have carnal knowledge of your nether regions.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	That sounds kind of, that's pretty polite.
	I mean, that's no, not in that way, though.
	Not in that way.
	I see what you're saying.
	They did it in the very inappropriate way.
	I see.
	I see.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So then you talk shit back and then you got banned.
	Exactly.
	And I don't think it was justified.
	I don't think it was justified.
	If you ever get out of this, wait, you're, did you say you're, no, you're in a relationship, right?
	I am in a relationship now.
	Done.
	Once you're out of that relationship.
	She's a lot better than these men online.
	These men online think they think they're hiding behind a screen.
	They're hiding behind.
	They're hiding behind a screen.
	All right.
	And, you know, it's like, don't Don't hide.
	Don't hide.
	Where did you get?
	You got banned from Tinder and Hinge.
	And Hinge.
	I did, yeah.
	So now you're for both.
	It bumbles what's left.
	You've got one place.
	It's a recluse.
	See, I don't know.
	It's a sanctuary.
	Bumbles your sanctuary.
	I am happy to be.
	But you're in a relationship.
	Morgan, your relationship status.
	I am single, but dating intentionally.
	No dating apps right now.
	And the longest relationship I've been in is like eight months, I want to say.
	Eight months.
	Six, eight months.
	What was the other one?
	How long have you been single for?
	How long have I been single for?
	A little over a year.
	One year.
	So you've been on the podcast, I think, two times, right?
	No, no prospects since.
	No prospects from the whatever crew, unfortunately.
	Or maybe fortunately.
	But I have been dating intentionally.
	They're actually.
	What does that mean, though, to be dating intentionally?
	Dating intentionally.
	No sleeping in the same bed.
	No napping.
	No.
	I'm waiting for marriage.
	Waiting for marriage.
	Yep.
	Going on dates intentionally with the intention to get married at the end.
	That doesn't mean that I'm dating the person that I'm going on the dates with is who I'm going to marry.
	But it's mutually knowing that we are dating in a way that is for marriage and honoring that.
	And if I recall the dating intentionally thing, that's been your standard since you were last on the show.
	Yes.
	From the first time, even, I think.
	And I don't recall exactly when your first appearance was.
	I think it's been like eight, nine months.
	I think nine months maybe your first appearance.
	Have you kept, because you listed, well, okay, not no sleepovers, no napping, none of that.
	Have you been, have you been?
	There's a good word for it.
	Have I stuck with it?
	Have you been, fuck, what's the word?
	Hold on.
	Let me just pause the podcast for 20 seconds to try to buy a vowel.
	Wait, have you been forth?
	No, no, it's not forthright.
	It's like something right.
	Obey.
	The fuck?
	Consistent?
	Have you been forthcoming?
	It's like I'm evoking something like an arrow just going straight.
	I don't think you're evoking anything right now.
	Call that one.
	Wait, what's it?
	Yes, I have stuck to my morals.
	God damn, that's going to bother me.
	Not engaged in any.
	I actually hadn't kissed anyone in over a year.
	So since my and nothing else.
	Nothing else.
	Because you could literally excuse me.
	Sorry.
	You said how long have you been single?
	Intentionally dating this person?
	No, so right now I've been intentional dating, but I'm single.
	You're single?
	Wait, sorry.
	So you're single, but you're intentionally dating someone.
	Like I've gone on eight.
	Not someone.
	I've gone on three dates in the last intention to find marriage?
	Yes.
	With the goal to be married at some point in the future.
	Okay.
	So like if I'm going, like somebody, like a man asked me on a date, like I will go on a date.
	I want to get to know them.
	I want to them like this is a future partner.
	I'm pretty sure.
	Different guys.
	Like you're like.
	Well, no.
	I've gone on three dates in the last two months with two months.
	Three dates, two months.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's it.
	But yes, I've stuck by my morals and have not done anything.
	Andrew is a.
	It's like shopping around for a husband.
	Andrew?
	It's almost like shopping around for a husband.
	Well, I'm not shopping for a husband.
	But like seeking out.
	But I am seeking marriage.
	Like I don't want to casually date.
	I'm not hooking up.
	I'm not going on dating apps to just go on a bunch of dates or waste somebody's time.
	And I know my values and I know what I'm looking for in a future partner.
	Like, you know, I'm not going to marry someone currently if they're not also waiting for marriage right now or re-waiting for marriage.
	It's totally fine.
	But, you know, I need to make sure that those values and those morals are.
	Have you always done this?
	Or is this like, have you done this in the past?
	So I have been doing this for about four years now.
	Four, five years?
	Maybe longer.
	It's been a while.
	An example.
	So with my husband, when we met 33 and 35, he was 35, a year and a half older than me, whatever at the time.
	Anyway, so when we met, normally I have to have that conversation with somebody like, hey, I have a kid, but I want more kids, but I'm not going to have any if unless I'm married and all of that.
	Normally I have to have that conversation.
	I didn't with him.
	He was like, hey, you know, I've already traveled.
	I've already done everything I'm going to do.
	Like, I want a family.
	If you don't want that, let's part ways right now.
	And I was like, oh my God, you're staying.
	You know, because that was my dating with intention.
	Both of us had the same ideas of what we wanted in our life, the same goals.
	And I believe it was five months later we got married.
	Or no, excuse me, nine months.
	Four months later, he proposed to me.
	Nine months later, we had gotten married.
	I'm just asking because a lot of days nowadays, people don't, you know what I mean?
	They're just like hookup culture and stuff.
	Right.
	So thank you for explaining that to me.
	Andrew Wilson, what about you?
	Yeah, I'm married.
	I have been for over a decade.
	All right.
	So really quick on everybody's relationship status.
	So single, single.
	Me?
	No, I was pointing at her.
	And then we have single here, and then also single.
	What does that really mean to be single?
	There's no guys in the picture whatsoever.
	Come on, you're.
	Brian, what's your dating status?
	Top secret.
	I've got to do it.
	It's top secret.
	Top secret.
	Don't say virgin.
	You're about to.
	No, I was going to say I'm a monk, which is essentially kind of the same.
	I'm on monk mode right now.
	A secondary virgin?
	No, now that I don't believe you can be a born-again virgin, that's laughable.
	But there's no guys in the picture.
	Come on.
	Come on.
	You got some sugar daddies, though, right?
	Okay, I have a question.
	You said that you work as a legal, at a legal brothel.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	The Moonlight Bunny Ranch.
	Okay.
	How many men have you seen in the last month via doing your job?
	I would have to grab my notebook for that.
	Do you have it with you?
	on like average if like you were just it depends Do you see that as just a job or when you're doing that?
	Are any of those men any intention at all?
	Do you want to date them?
	Yeah.
	No.
	I keep my work stuff separate from my personal stuff.
	I will not be dating my clients.
	Are they just one nights or are they reoccurring?
	I have regulars.
	Yeah.
	Wait, can you scoot your mic?
	That way, yeah.
	Yes.
	Perfect.
	How many clients do you have?
	Why are you looking at me that way?
	What the fuck?
	No, I'm just, no, I'm just a question.
	How many clients do you have?
	Do I have?
	That's really like, how many clients do I see a day?
	Sure.
	Let's do that.
	That's easier.
	Sometimes I'll just see one client a day.
	And sometimes you'll see two.
	Two.
	What the fuck?
	And sometimes you'll see.
	This is like a Dr. Seuss book.
	Sometimes you'll see three.
	Well, that's green eggs and ham.
	I'm not talking about the weather.
	Like, I really don't know how many clients I have.
	What's the most clients you've seen in a day?
	Like four.
	Has anybody ever told you that, like, when you look at somebody, it's kind of intense.
	Like, I feel like you want to beat me up.
	No, oh my gosh.
	You've got that, like, look in your eyes.
	Like, I'm no, do I?
	Okay, just intimidated by me?
	No, I'm just, are you upset?
	No.
	By the question?
	No.
	Okay.
	Not at all.
	Okay, sorry.
	Maybe you just have like that look.
	Anyways, moving on.
	So, okay, you see, did you say the most you've seen in a day?
	Four?
	That's it.
	Five never crossed your mind.
	One guy.
	All it takes is just one party sometimes.
	You know what I mean?
	All it takes is one what?
	One client.
	Yeah.
	What do you call one client?
	You call them Marks Trix.
	Ever call them that?
	Privately?
	Why, do you know, but have you ever?
	No, I just believe in discretion and I encourage discretion.
	So that's all I'm going to say.
	Have you discreetly engaged in escorting or prostitution?
	I have not, no.
	Okay, just ask.
	But I do believe in discretion all across the board, especially when it comes to the adult entertainment industry.
	You definitely, we're here to provide, you know, a service and a courtesy, sometimes a fantasy.
	And so it's probably part of it.
	And that's great.
	I know.
	But so are you object?
	Are you saying that because you're objecting to me asking about the own space?
	And if she wants to share that, no, but the question was: do you refer to them as Marks or Johns, which is just sort of like a descriptive term?
	Oh, I don't know.
	That's so I personally don't use those terms with my clients because I think that those terms are just disrespectful.
	I like to be respectful in the environment that I'm in.
	Okay.
	The environment that I'm in is legal, like I said, and we don't go around talking about our clients like that.
	That's definitely not what we like as a bunny ranch to not the moonlight bunny ranch.
	Do you want to tell us one more time where you?
	Well, I'm just saying, like, they're at the establishment.
	It's important for us to not treat our customers like that.
	No, of course.
	Of course.
	I have heard some.
	And I'm going to say it multiple times just so that you're aware of where I work.
	Appreciate it.
	Yeah, where's that again?
	Yeah, one more time.
	The legal moonlight bunny ranch.
	He didn't hear me.
	And I've said it a couple times.
	That's why I keep you on the ship.
	He's hard of hearing.
	Andrew's hard of hearing.
	Sometimes you need to repeat things.
	Okay, so you're single also, but you know.
	Any guys in the picture?
	Any prospects?
	Any dating stuff?
	So I'm a stripper.
	Of course, my relationships are not going to last.
	Well, you said you were dating that guy before.
	How long were you and Brandon dating?
	For a year, but he met me there.
	He met you at the club?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	And any you said that relationship ended three months ago?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Any, you know, rebound?
	Anything?
	Yeah, of course.
	More than a couple rebounds?
	Like talking to guys, yes, but it didn't last because I'm a stripper.
	So it didn't last because you're a stripper?
	Yeah, they don't.
	I guess like guys think that they can get in my pants because I'm a stripper, but that's not the case.
	So Well, I kind of it would occur to me that somebody who's uh sexually open enough to be fully nude in front of men or groups of men.
	I mean most guys are probably gonna assume that you're not exactly waiting until marriage to have sex.
	That's fine, but I'm not gonna give my pussy up just like do you want to be in a relationship?
	Um, not as of right now, no.
	Eventually, do you want to be like married and in a long-term relationship?
	Um, I do, but later on in life.
	How long have you been dancing for about a year or more than a year?
	What how did you get into it?
	Um well I was kind of tired of the nine-to-five job, so um I wanted the fast money and it's kind of hard to get out of the fast money after a while, so yeah, I'm just trying to get in my bag and I want to hustle and make money.
	Are you hustling in other ways besides dancing?
	No.
	You said it's hard to get out of fast money once you start.
	Do you have a second plan of eventually wanting to leave the stripping industry and going into something else?
	Yeah.
	I want a man to save me out of the industry.
	But then you said that it's really difficult for men to date you because you are a stripper.
	Oh my god, that's the what?
	Steadfast is the word.
	Sorry to interrupt.
	I wanted to thank you.
	Hold on, thank you.
	Who is it in the fucking chat?
	You said it earlier?
	You said I didn't hear it.
	Steadfast.
	Steadfast.
	God, that's such a good word.
	That's a great word.
	So you have been steadfast.
	Okay, I didn't.
	Go ahead.
	Continue.
	You seem to have raised an eyebrow at something she said.
	No, I was just saying, so you said that you eventually want to be in a relationship.
	You want a man to save you, but you are currently a stripper.
	And you expressed that now a man, it's difficult to date because you are in the stripping industry.
	I kind of see that as an oxymoron almost of like if you do want to.
	So I'm only 21.
	I'm still really young.
	Right.
	If a man later on in life wants to look past my, you know, stripping career, if he asks me to stop stripping, I will stop stripping.
	You know, if he wants to still respect me for my past and he wants to provide for me and he wants to settle down and ask to marry me, then I will stop stripping for him.
	That's a great answer.
	And someone will do that for you.
	Yeah.
	And in that case, a man is not saving you.
	You know, like, he might be picking you up, but he's not saving you.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, never say that a man's saving you.
	Never, never say that a man's saving you.
	Well, I don't know.
	I just want to say that.
	Well, you want a guy to be a professor.
	I would like a provider, yes.
	That's what I was going to ask.
	I would like a provider.
	I want to be a stay-at-home mom.
	A man would be saving her by providing her money so she doesn't have to continue engaging in that kind of work.
	Okay.
	What made you want to get into stripping?
	I know you said fast money.
	You were working 9 to 5 before, but what was appealing to that industry?
	Was there something that was like, this is what I want to do and why I want to do it?
	Well, I kind of got tired of working at McDonald's.
	And I didn't grow up in a wealthy household, so I grew up poor.
	And I wanted to make money somehow, you know?
	So yeah, I thought the best way to make money was off my appearance and off my looks for some reason.
	And that's how I got into it.
	You said you were born and raised in Oxnard?
	Mm-hmm.
	805?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Can you show us the neck tattoo that you have?
	Just pull your hair back.
	What does it say?
	It says Ismail.
	What's that?
	That's one of my granddaughters.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Grid one Motorsports donated $100.
	She believes in discretion, and that is for certain discreet blows.
	Said no one ever.
	The bunny girl and stripper might be using more copian than the hippies from the other night.
	This will be fun.
	Thank you, Grid One Motorsports.
	Appreciate it, dude.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Did you have more back and forth with so?
	You've not been.
	It sounded like you had a rebound.
	What do you mean?
	You had, because you said you broke up three months ago, but there was another guy kind of in the picture.
	Yeah, so I was never, I was always loyal to Brandon, but to me, cheating was flirting with other guys, even through text.
	So that's what I did.
	You did.
	Oh, so he broke up with you because it was on both terms.
	Both terms.
	It was a really toxic relationship.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Wait, and did Brandon tell you to come on the show?
	No, he didn't.
	He actually encouraged me not to come on here.
	Oh, he encouraged you.
	Okay, Brandon.
	And he told us.
	First off, let me just send a message to Brandon.
	I didn't, I was not privy to.
	Brandon's a friend of mine.
	I was not privy to the relationship here.
	No, but I'm not going to come on here and bash him.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'd request you not to say anything negative.
	I wasn't.
	I was just saying our relationship status as of right now.
	We're still cool.
	We still talk.
	Does he still work?
	Yeah, he still works.
	He still works.
	Okay.
	It was just a toxic relationship, but I feel like we're better off as.
	Who was more toxic?
	Like, was it you?
	Be honest.
	I'm a Latina.
	Of course I'm going to be.
	Oh, no.
	Because I mean, I've had quite a bit of back and forth with Brandon.
	And he's got his head on pretty straight.
	So.
	Yeah.
	He's strikes me as a super level-headed.
	Yeah, and I think Brandon, because before him, I didn't really know much, but a real man passes knowledge.
	And because of him, I think I know a lot more.
	Like, he taught me a lot of things.
	Okay.
	And so, yeah.
	So I can say that about him.
	But just the relationship itself was very toxic.
	What's some toxic things that you did?
	I memorized his following list.
	His following list?
	Like everybody he follows on Instagram?
	On Instagram?
	Yes.
	You memorized it?
	Yeah.
	Like in your head?
	I mean, I would.
	Like, you could name the people like that.
	This is Tiffany Becky.
	Who's that?
	Gertrude?
	No, not like that.
	You got curious when you saw him following Gertrude.
	You're like, who's Gertrude, Brandon?
	Sometimes, yeah.
	Did he like?
	Who's Ursula?
	Okay, so.
	Yeah.
	Did he like other girls furters on Instagram?
	Do you know?
	He would comment under the photos.
	And I'm just like, you don't even follow me on Instagram.
	You don't even like my pictures.
	What's some toxic shit that you did, though?
	I'd rather not disclose that.
	Slashing.
	Did you slash tires?
	No, no.
	Burn clothes?
	No.
	No.
	Oh, I've done that before.
	That's really fun.
	What?
	I actually went to jail for like a few hours or so.
	For a while.
	What did you do?
	For what?
	I don't want to say.
	Oh, okay.
	A couple hours.
	Okay.
	Terrorism?
	Okay.
	But that was a building.
	Conspiracy to defraud the government.
	Treason.
	Was it treason?
	I have a feeling it was treason.
	No treason.
	Light treason?
	No.
	Heavy treason?
	No.
	Medium treason?
	Okay.
	All right, I'm.
	I'm off.
	Okay.
	Any dating apps?
	Are you on dating apps?
	No.
	Would you date a customer at your club?
	No.
	Okay.
	Moving on.
	Well, I'm going to come back actually.
	You said you burned clothes?
	What?
	Huh?
	Yeah.
	Has any?
	Okay.
	Have you done other shit?
	Have you ever broken something?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	You.
	Watch out.
	Tire slashing.
	Have you slashed tires?
	No.
	Oh, let me do the singular.
	Have you slashed a tire?
	I'm not going to let you off on the technicality here.
	Have you slashed a tire?
	A singular tire.
	Yes.
	For legal reasons, no.
	Wow, that was.
	Did you see?
	She tried to use the loophole of plural.
	She tried to use plural to get out of it, but I fucking saw that.
	What did they do?
	Singular.
	What kind of tire was it?
	I see what you're trying to do.
	You're trying to catch me.
	Well, I mean, you did that shit.
	Having to my best friend, they did it to my best friend.
	Wasn't done to me.
	I'm way more aggressive when it's to someone I love or someone I care about.
	Stab somebody?
	Shanked?
	No.
	I'm not a criminal.
	Wait, so it was your best friend's boyfriend.
	You kind of just pleaded the and your best friend's boyfriend.
	He was like really like that good better.
	Okay.
	So I mean, more so in like a dating context, you know.
	He was burned clothes.
	Well, burning clothes.
	I feel like that's not bad at all.
	It's pretty.
	That's vandalism, property damage, you know.
	Is it?
	Probably in this case.
	Like, why did you burn his clothes?
	Because he was being rude.
	To you?
	Yes.
	What did he say?
	Was it the guy you were dating?
	No.
	It was another, it was a different date.
	Why are you like doing this revenge shit on dudes you're not even dating?
	I'm confused.
	Were you dating him?
	No, he was also another one of my friends.
	So we burned it together.
	We burned his shirt together.
	I was kind of like helping him.
	You said you burned it?
	You said you burned it because he was rude.
	How was he rude?
	Well, he was just leading her on, in a sense.
	What do you mean, leading her on?
	Like, there was this thing where they were going to date or expected to date and then it just like didn't happen.
	So that was fucking so.
	Yeah, it does.
	I think it does.
	I don't know.
	So if a guy were to take you on a couple dates and then be like, hey, like, maybe leading you on, and then you're like, you know, I just, he's not seeing it, and then you just burn his clothes.
	If I have access to them.
	Okay.
	I think that's a little unreasonable.
	Just a little.
	Well, I mean, the way that I would frame it is psychotic behavior, psychopathic, lunatic.
	That's how I would frame it.
	If you were, you know, to burn people's clothing because you were upset at them.
	But I mean, that's just me.
	I mean, college is college.
	I was about to say, I mean, like, that's time-consuming.
	Doing that to someone else.
	And, like, so it's like, did you video record it and then send it to him and was like, look what I did?
	Or was it on his, like, at his house?
	Like, where did this take place?
	How many kills were there?
	Was in my apartment and the fire alarm went off.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And so then it was.
	You must have been raging, girl.
	You were like, I'm going to do this in my apartment or just totally sober.
	Let's burn his shirt.
	He was leading you on.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So, what did you burn it in?
	Oh, a lighter.
	No, you took the lighter, and then where did you put the clothes?
	So it just started like going up in flames.
	So you just lit it.
	Lit it on the floor?
	You lit it on the floor?
	It was like on your kitchen floor.
	Yeah, it was a cut off.
	Like you didn't cut off your hand.
	You weren't like over the bathtub lighting it on fire.
	Like you were just straight up in your kitchen, just like lighting it on fire.
	I was just, she was like, my friend was just kind of chilling there.
	And this was, this was like my idea.
	So.
	Did you film it?
	I tried to, but I got like a little bit of it on film.
	And then it just started going up in flames.
	And I like random stuff.
	Can you send us the video?
	We can say Sarah Mears Note Dead donated $100.
	Brian Gutshakul to see Andrew Morgan Lexi.
	Will we ever see in Rattlesnake plus Latina plus Vegas resident panel?
	Would-be peak bands?
	Who's the Latina?
	Which Latina?
	I'm a Latina.
	There's several here.
	I don't know which Latina you're referring to.
	Thank you for the TTS.
	Jake's dope.
	We'll always love to have him back on.
	I'm not sure who the Vegas resident is.
	Who's from Vegas?
	Oh, maybe you.
	No, he said Lexi.
	Yeah, he said my name.
	I'm assuming.
	Yeah, Jake's great.
	He's fantastic.
	He's great.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate that.
	Were you guys having more back and forth about the clothes burning?
	Or I have questions.
	I just want, like, what extent, like, what would you do?
	Like, your boyfriend now, you're in an eight-month relationship.
	If y'all broke up, like, would you, like, it was toxic or something happened?
	Like, what extent would you do?
	Because I feel like this is a reoccurring thing.
	I don't know.
	I feel like he's very genuine.
	I wouldn't do anything to harm him.
	Like, I wouldn't, like, you wouldn't harm some, like him.
	Yeah, I wouldn't hit him.
	But burning clothes.
	I feel like burning clothes is just like, it's like, it's a piece of clothing, you know?
	You can, like, always buy it again.
	So, what if a guy broke up with, like, what if you broke up with a guy and they had a piece of your clothes and burned it?
	Like, I feel like you would be like, they're toxic.
	That's horrible behavior.
	They're crazy.
	I'd just be like, yo, that's kind of crazy.
	But I would like, I would just laugh at him.
	What?
	Yeah.
	I mean, if it.
	Well, I know if a guy like burned my clothes, I would think that's pretty, pretty, like, psycho.
	I don't know.
	I think it's kind of funny.
	I would show my friend and be like, yo, look who just burned my shirt.
	That's a new one.
	Wait, wait, what?
	You would think it was funny?
	Yeah, I would think it's funny.
	I mean, I don't know.
	Did you bring a spare set of clothes that Brian can take outside and set on fire?
	Or you're not fully in the middle of the day.
	I mean, what the heck, girl.
	I'm sorry, that's a little wild.
	I mean, that's hard.
	If someone, like, super weird, just gonna let you know that's really weird.
	Burning an article of clothing?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I've returned clothes from like previous exes of, like, we've broken up good or bad terms.
	Like, I'm not going to damage your property.
	Like, I will mail it back to you.
	Go ahead, like.
	Over a certain amount of damage, you got, like, a higher, like, charge.
	Wait, you were going to say?
	I'm sorry.
	No, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Actually, me, um, Brandon would always, like, he would, he wouldn't burn my clothes.
	He wouldn't throw in the trash.
	He would actually, like, bag it up and, uh.
	Return it.
	Yeah, he would return it.
	Like, that's a respectful thing to do.
	It might have been in, like, a trash bag, but, like, he returned it, you know?
	But he didn't.
	Oh, because you had like clothes at his place, and when you guys broke up, he gave you back your stuff.
	Yeah, the amount of times that he packed up my clothes from my closet in his apartment was like so he was like breaking up with you.
	Oh, it was on again, off again type shit?
	Yeah, that.
	Okay, he didn't burn it.
	He would no, he'd give you the, but like, he would be the one breaking up with you.
	No, like, here's your shit.
	Goodbye.
	Um, it was back and forth, yes.
	Dude, I think that's a respectful thing to do.
	Like, even though your relationship was toxic and unconventional, at least you had the baseline respect of, hey, I'm going to return your things and not.
	I was like, can I please just like have my clothes back?
	Like, don't do anything to it or anything like that.
	And I appreciate that.
	At least he didn't.
	Some questions for you here.
	You mean this totally sane man bagged your clothes up and just gave them back to you?
	He didn't even burn them.
	He didn't destroy your stuff.
	That's great.
	I can't remember.
	All right, I've returned clothes.
	I have.
	Don't get me wrong.
	I've returned clothes before.
	Here, let me ask some clarifying questions.
	So this wasn't somebody you dated.
	It was a friend's love interest.
	Yes.
	How old were you guys?
	This was.
	You said college.
	Yeah, this was a while ago.
	Maybe a little.
	A year 21, so what?
	A year ago, two years ago?
	Two years ago, 19.
	Okay, so let's get some details about, let's see if there's any sort of justification here.
	So you said he was leading her on.
	Right.
	Okay.
	So how many times did they date?
	Go on dates?
	How many times did they meet up?
	Pretty often, like I'd say a few times a week.
	For how long?
	For like over three months.
	So they were dating.
	So you.
	But so what, what was the point?
	There must have been some occurrence or event that precipitated the clothes burning.
	You burning the clothes.
	Yeah.
	Was that what?
	I guess like cheating, in a sense.
	He cheated.
	Were they ever exclusive?
	Were they.
	Yeah.
	So you were technically the side chick.
	Hmm?
	The side chick?
	Wait.
	No, I don't think she was involved.
	Oh, no, I wasn't.
	It wasn't my relationship.
	Okay.
	So they were never officially exclusive?
	Okay.
	They okay, it was on like both ends.
	There was There's different answers.
	There's different answers to that.
	I'm so confused.
	There was different answers to that.
	So, like, according to one, they were in another they weren't.
	It was different times, like, thrown up.
	So she was seeing other dudes.
	He was seeing other girls.
	No, she wasn't.
	She wasn't.
	She was seeing him, but he ended up seeing another girl.
	And so you guys were like, well, she was being led on by this guy.
	So let's burn a shirt.
	Yes.
	There's definitely two sides to the story, for sure.
	He probably thought this was like a casual hookup.
	Did she ever bring up, what are we?
	Are we in a relationship?
	Are you my boyfriend?
	Did she ever have that conversation with him?
	Yeah, I believe so.
	And so what did he say?
	I believe it just like went in like circles.
	Like never really like a definite answer.
	So he was just wanting to hook up.
	He was just wanting to see it.
	But he never agreed.
	He never said, yes, you're my girlfriend, correct?
	He said, nah, let's see how it goes type shit.
	Yeah, I believe so.
	You believe so.
	Yeah.
	Do you see where there's an issue?
	No, she never dated him.
	I never dated him.
	I know, but you burned his clothes, right?
	Yeah, she said her feel better.
	It would make her.
	So you were just.
	Okay.
	But then you said you would also possibly do that with a partner, maybe.
	With a partner, I don't know.
	I'm not as like, I'm not as like that with myself as I am with like my friend.
	Other people.
	With my friend.
	Well, the tire situation was also, was that the same friend?
	Different friend.
	They're two different friends.
	Two different situations with two different friends.
	Okay.
	So she's just a ride or die best.
	Wow.
	That's, yeah, not for me.
	That's for me.
	I'm not.
	Because the way you originally described it, you said, well, he kind of led her on a little bit, which makes me think they were never in a relationship.
	Sounds like they were just talking out.
	Just like he was, they were having sex and just for a long time.
	With my other friend, they were dating.
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	Less than smart blonde girl, realize this is me calling you a liar.
	You do not have to lie to be more interesting, and it is a sin.
	Gentlemen, this is why you cannot believe sheet women say.
	I'm not lying, buddy.
	All right?
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	It does sound a little more fantastical as we go on here.
	I don't know the situation of their relationship.
	And it's their relationship.
	So I don't want to.
	I mean, I can also say this.
	There's a huge tendency oftentimes for, I mean, I don't want to make this totally a gendered thing, but I've definitely experienced that women more so than men have a tendency to minimize the things they've done wrong and emphasize the things that their partner's done wrong in order to garner favor from whoever they're telling their fucking bullshit sob story to.
	If I'm ever asking anybody for advice, I'm going to say, here's what I've done wrong, here's what they did wrong.
	And I'm going to try to be as like unbiased and neutral as possible.
	But people tend to minimize, like I said, the ways in which they're culpable and they'll try to elevate the ways in which the other person has done wrong.
	They're going to downplay themselves and then they're going to hyperinflate every story around them because it also, women just do that in general because they want to sound important and feel important and feel listened and heard to.
	So in any story, most of the time, women are exaggerating.
	Not all the time.
	Not all the time, but sometimes.
	There's honest people out there.
	No, I'm not lying.
	I just don't want to, I don't want to tell the story wrong because it's not like my story to tell.
	So I don't.
	I'm not lying.
	It was your clothes to burn, apparently.
	I did burn the shirt.
	It was your clothes to burn.
	I did not burn the shirt, but it's just not my, well, the shirt part, yeah.
	We need to get this guy on the pod.
	We need to get them on the podcast.
	See what the story is.
	Yeah.
	Because he knows the shirt was burned.
	I'm so sorry.
	May I use a restroom?
	Yeah, go for it.
	Thank you.
	You don't need to ask, by the way, you just feel free to.
	That's fine, though.
	And then you're single over here.
	Yeah.
	Single for five years.
	So any dating apps?
	I'm on Bumble.
	Oh, yeah.
	Do you mind if I just ask her a question?
	Okay.
	Sure.
	I just wanted to ask you, like, was it worth it?
	Like, doing those things?
	Oh, burning of the shirt?
	Yeah.
	And like slashing the tires for your friends.
	was it worth it um I'd well for the shirt I'd say the burning the shirt was kind of it was like funny to us in a sense I I don't know.
	It was funny.
	It made her feel better.
	And it was just a like.
	What if murdering him made it?
	And it was just like funny.
	It was just like a nothing shirt.
	It was like a cutoff shirt.
	What if it was like, let's say his dad was in the, you know, he was in Bosnia's son?
	He was in the shit.
	And that was his dad's last shirt he wore before he got.
	You know?
	It wasn't.
	That was his dad's shirt that he wore in the Bosnian war, son.
	How are you going to burn that?
	He just straightened it out.
	I would have burned that.
	It was just like a nothing throwaway shirt.
	Priceless.
	Priceless.
	How did you know that?
	Token of war.
	What if it was his favorite gym shirt?
	Did you ask him?
	Were you like, hey, is this your favorite shirt before I burn it?
	I do kind of like know him.
	Wait, so what was his reaction?
	What was he was like, yo, that's crazy.
	Yeah, very much so.
	Crazy.
	You're crazy.
	But like, in a funny way, like, he didn't really care.
	Here, I have a, I want to give you a scenario.
	Let's just flip the genders.
	And a dude burned a girl wasn't ready to commit to this guy she'd been seeing for a while.
	And, but they were hooking up, but just she wasn't ready to commit, you know.
	And she, she, the guy then had one of him and his male friends conspired to go and burn an article of clothing of hers.
	Is that valid?
	Is that the Bron Asons donated $100?
	Jesus Christ.
	The crazy chick is nuts.
	She is too ugly and has a cups.
	You do not get to burn stuff and slash tiles unless you 36 D. Know your place, say Christ is Lord.
	Well, he's not wrong.
	I mean.
	Oh, well, I don't know if you should admit to that.
	No, no, no.
	I'm not.
	So wait, he's not wrong about the 36 double D's part.
	You're only allowed to burn stuff if you have large memories.
	Yeah, 36 double D's.
	Okay.
	Like that's so crazy.
	Okay.
	If that's, if that's minor triple, you can venture.
	So, okay, like, I just painted the scenario where it's physically the genders are reversed.
	I'm a bit of a pyro, so I was wondering if you gained satisfaction and if you let him know.
	Because it just, at the end of the day, it just sounds like, yes, it is problematic behavior.
	I will not dismiss that.
	But it just sounds like two girls, one was hurt, one was like, hey, let's burn his shirt.
	Yeah.
	And okay, let's do it.
	But for me, I would have like at least videoed it or something.
	And I would have done it in a safe place.
	Yeah.
	And then, you know, just like kind of like express that.
	But, you know, like, at the end of the day, like, if you didn't have anything else going on, you didn't have anything better to do.
	It just sounds like typical college behavior.
	That's exactly what I'm saying.
	Yes, it is problematic.
	Yes, they are red flags.
	That's not typical college behavior.
	Okay, what, what do I, I'm not going to say I'm a college kid or I went to college very briefly.
	But that just sounds like another crazy college story.
	It is.
	So that's all I have to say about that.
	I mean, that's a great way to just sort of sum it up.
	And this is why you shouldn't go to college.
	Oh, how come typical college behavior isn't, oh, I don't know, learning higher education, but rather than that.
	It should be.
	But things like American.
	And burning people's clothes.
	Why is that standard college behavior just out of curiosity?
	It's a balance.
	It's a balance of education.
	Oh, yeah, it's a balancing act.
	It's prostitution to education ratio.
	It's a balance of education and having fun with your friends.
	Can I add something?
	Sure.
	And then we're going to move on from this.
	I think going back, as you mentioned, gender roles, right?
	The switch, if it was female's clothing being burned, I feel like they would call campus police, you know, and it'd be a legal thing.
	So, I think it would be escalated higher.
	Not everybody, but I think that the situation would have been different.
	I will say stuff like this happens all the time on my campus.
	Okay.
	So, going to you, I think I was asking your single status.
	Any prospects at all?
	Are you currently dating anybody?
	I'm currently just started talking to somebody like this.
	What does it mean to just be talking to somebody?
	How did you mean?
	Phone calls?
	Phone calls?
	Yeah.
	Did you match on Bumble?
	Correct.
	Yeah, we matched on Bumble and we've been just having a phone conversation.
	It's very new, like probably three days.
	Have you guys live in the same city?
	Yep, we both live in Arizona.
	How many phone calls have you had?
	Maybe like four.
	Seems, I mean, it seems a little excessive to me, but we haven't gone on a date yet, but we have one plan when I come back to Arizona after this podcast.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And so single for five years.
	Was it just like string after string of yeah?
	I mean, if I'm being honest with you, I just noticed like a pattern.
	Like three to six months, I would have like kind of a flang, and then somehow I'd get ghosted or it would just end it.
	And then I noticed that after they dated me, they ended up, you know, in a relationship or engaged or have a baby on the way.
	So.
	Did you sleep with them?
	Sorry.
	No, not like all of them.
	No.
	Not all of them.
	All of them.
	What do you mean?
	So there's multiple men that you dated for three to six months and you didn't sleep with them?
	I rather not like disclose that information, but honestly, not all of them.
	No.
	So you're telling me there's some men that you'll sleep with prior to three months, but other men you wouldn't?
	Like I just, that doesn't make any sense to me.
	That's just kind of how it happens.
	Like they didn't want to fuck, or you were making some men wait and other men you would just fuck on the first date?
	Probably a little bit of both, if I'm being honest with you.
	So you would be in a why the differing standard there?
	I mean, that would, if I was dating a woman who if I was dating a woman who her previous guy she was in a relationship with, she fucked him on the first night, and then she's going to make me wait three to six months, and then the next guy she fucks, she fucks on the first night.
	I'm going to be like, well, why did you make me wait three months, but the last guy you fucked was immediately, and the next guy you fucked was immediately.
	I'd be like, what?
	Yeah, I can understand.
	So is that, but that's what you were doing, basically?
	Well, it's been five years, right?
	So like within that time, I've grown up, right?
	So I was like 25, recently single after eight-year relationship.
	So I was kind of seeing things a little bit differently.
	And now that I'm 30, like going back to, I'm dating with intention of like, I want something serious.
	I want to get married.
	I want a family.
	So that's kind of how it changed, I guess, over time because I matured.
	So are you waiting until marriage?
	No.
	I mean, I'm not really sure, honestly.
	I don't really have a stance on that.
	Yeah.
	I had a question.
	Of course.
	Could it be that in that time, you with every relationship where there was three to six months, whatever, you went through something.
	And that's why the next one, you probably bounced into it too quickly and you're like, no, no, no, I'm going to do things differently.
	And then it ended up being the same result, no matter what you did.
	Yeah.
	Because I could kind of see that that's why some were and some people that you slept with.
	Right, kind of a lot of people.
	Because we're kind of like emotional creatures.
	That's why like back-to-back dating is not great for women.
	Yeah.
	Because of the emotional toll it can take on us.
	Yeah.
	But that's the only thing I was kind of thinking that maybe why you had some encounters with what is the word you use, Brian?
	You had some carnal knowledge.
	And others you did not.
	Yeah, and I think you're exactly right.
	I mean, in between those times, of course, I took like a couple of months off of dating somebody.
	I mean, I guess I'd just been single for so long that there was two or three months in between, and then I would meet somebody else.
	Like, I wouldn't just jump from releases.
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	7 sectillion, 777 sextillion, 777 quintillion, 777 quadrillion, 777 trillion, 777 billion, 777,77,777 donated $100.
	What century are we in?
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	So entertaining.
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	And then we have Swordless.
	Swordless donated $100.
	Good luck.
	And as usual, I'm going to bed.
	Good night.
	Okay, Swordless.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	He was asking, we'll come back to the whole single situation.
	What century are we in?
	What century are we in?
	What century?
	21st, no?
	21st?
	21st?
	I don't know.
	I think so.
	I don't know.
	You all know?
	Okay.
	What century are we in?
	I think it's the 21st, right?
	I'm going to say 21st.
	21st?
	Yeah, I'm going with 21st.
	Okay.
	It is the 21st.
	Okay.
	Wait, so okay, going back to you.
	So you were saying that you would maybe earlier on in this 25 to 30 single period, you would did you have any like casual hookups or one-night stands, anything like that?
	I'd rather not disclose, but.
	That's a yes.
	I would say, I would say hookups.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Oh, you would say what?
	I would say hookups, yes.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And were these like from dating apps or you'd go out to bars and clubs?
	I don't think there was.
	I think dating apps were kind of like a little bit just newer.
	I wasn't really on them because I was single for so long, but I would just, because I moved back to my town where I'm from.
	So I was going on dates with people I went to high school with.
	Sure.
	So from the guy's perspective on this, on one hand, I'm not saying that women shouldn't change for the better.
	They should.
	And if it's your genuine value shift of, okay, well, previously I was engaging in promiscuity.
	That's not good.
	Maybe I should wait longer periods before having sex with men.
	I still kind of, look, it's your, it's your prerogative, of course, at the end of the day.
	But we as men are also allowed, in the same way, for example, if you encountered a man who you, he was kind of, he wanted to go 50-50 and he never took you on any trips and he was, he, he wasn't ready to give you monogamy immediately.
	But then you find out that in all his past relationships, he gave monogamy very quick, quick to all his previous partners.
	He was a provider, protector, never 50-50 would be, he would just always be providing, paying for first aids.
	But then he says, well, I'm not doing any of that stuff because I really like you.
	And all those previous girls were just short-term flings and mistakes.
	You see how ridiculous that sounds?
	So when girls say, well, all those guys in the past that I immediately, immediately had sex with, that was just fun.
	They were fuckboys and assholes and they weren't deserving.
	But I really, really like you.
	You're a great guy.
	We're going to wait three months for you to receive this benefit of having sex.
	You see how ridiculous that sounds.
	Yeah, I can understand where you're coming from for sure.
	Yeah.
	But I do think people can mature and grow up.
	And if they make the conscious decision of, you know, I am going to wait to have sex with this person, whether it's until marriage, whether it's six months, whether it's a year engagement, whatever it is for that person, which personally I do believe that waiting for marriage is 10 times more beneficial for every single relationship.
	But you can have a past and then also be saved or make that decision of I'm going to date with intention in the future.
	Yeah, you absolutely can.
	But I don't think you need to.
	You need to find a guy.
	You need to find a guy who's willing to accept that, in my view, frankly, kind of subpar, suboptimal scenario.
	But I also think it's a double standard for men.
	Well, my personal recommendation, though, for men is that's not an acceptable scenario.
	So she ought to go find a guy who's willing to accept that the 10, 20, 30 previous men she slept with was instant.
	But when you finally come along after she's had her fun in her 20s, now she's 30, all of a sudden she's going to change up and then you're going to wait three months, six months until marriage.
	Is it the same standard for a man if he slept with 20 or 30 women and then all of a sudden it was like, you know what?
	I want to wait.
	I do not have a double standard on this.
	As a woman, if you're desirous of having sex early on in a relationship and the man, despite his past of promiscuity, is like, well, I've turned a new leaf and I'm waiting until marriage.
	As a woman, you're certainly also inclined to say, well, I don't want to wait to have sex.
	You fucked a bunch of chicks really quickly in your past.
	I don't think women hold that position as frequently as men do, but I don't have a double standard on it.
	Women can have the exact same standard on this as men can.
	And so just to my personal view on this, if that was always her standard from the very beginning, from the very beginning, then that's a different conversation.
	But if you're going to, you fucked a bunch of dudes in your 20s, now you're 30, now you're trying, it makes the guy feel like a sucker.
	Now, women are in this damned if you do, damned if you don't position, though, because I don't think that they should just necessarily, we talked about this last time, because if a woman is getting into a new relationship with a man and she decides to hook up with him and it doesn't work out in her favor, then she is adding another man to her body count, which is then going to negatively impact her for her next relationship.
	So I think it's 10 times more valuable if that woman were to hold out and say, you know what, I am not ready to have sex with this partner until you get to know them.
	And I think that's just an equal honoring and respecting her.
	So is this kind of like from the view of the future potential partner's position, like she's adding another body, so he's going to judge her in a certain type of way like that?
	Or is that for her own self?
	I mean, I think it could be both.
	Yeah.
	Because let's say she slept with 50 men.
	And then, okay, sure, okay, if she has another one after the 51 or 52, it won't necessarily make her.
	She's still like her body count's still going to be a massive disqualifier.
	Right.
	I'm saying 10 or under.
	If you're at the 10 or under mark, like, you know, having another intimate relationship does psychologically and hormonally, you know, impact a woman more than it would impact her.
	Then she should also wait to receive all the benefits that she would otherwise receive from the man.
	So maybe she doesn't get any provider benefits because she should wait, right?
	Just like she's making him wait.
	So are you saying that a woman can only provide sex?
	That's not what I'm saying.
	Because there's multiple things.
	That's not equal balance.
	But when we're, what do you mean?
	Like if a man is paying for a first date.
	What does the okay?
	Yeah.
	You know, that is showing her if she is waiting.
	She wants a man that's going to be able to provide.
	Okay, little things that are shown there.
	Okay, so men are typically expected to make the first move, approach, initiate, set up the date, plan the date, handle the logistics, pay for the date, go for the first kiss, move things forward from there physically.
	Masculine man.
	Someone who's affirming themselves.
	Leading dominant, masculine.
	So that's what's expected very early and upfront from the man.
	So if that's kind of what men are expected to do, then what are women expected to do early on in the courtship process?
	I would say respect them, show them feminine intentions, and just be a feminine woman.
	You know, loyalty if you are exclusive talking to that person.
	Can you give me examples of that?
	Like if a man is putting in this much effort to go and see you, you know, you're going to do your hair.
	You're going to look nice.
	You're going to give him attention.
	You're going to allow him to be a masculine man.
	You know, if he's opening up your door for you, if he's going to offer to pick you up, you know, there's little things we can do and coffee or something.
	You being a man.
	Do you care about any of those things?
	What things?
	The things that she just mentioned.
	Like if you want a feminine woman, and I'll use the word like biblically, right?
	You know, in marriage, a woman will submit to her husband's authority because her husband is submitting to Christ and is leading the household.
	So you're trusting that they're going to lead you in the future.
	So as a woman, when you're going on a date, you know, it's not an interview.
	You're just getting to know that person and you are appreciative and thankful for them, you know, being the leader and showing that masculine energy.
	And you there are being feminine and showing your feminine qualities because it is an equal balance unit that will become one in the future.
	It just feels like a bamboozle.
	Oh, okay.
	You previously slept with your past 10 sexual partners.
	But you're not going to take every girl out on a first date, you know?
	Like if you were intentionally looking to date someone, you'll take them on a date.
	I think it's better to wait for a man as well.
	Like then you can like have a more intense bond with her anyway.
	Or else it's better for you guys, I think, as well.
	That would be more.
	understand what you're saying though like yes if a woman is it's a raw deal it's a raw deal i I think it's a raw deal.
	Oh, okay.
	A month ago, you just had a one-night stand.
	You were on some fucking cruise or something.
	A month ago to a firm.
	A month ago.
	Understandable.
	But if you're talking like a woman who is like, you know what, I have committed my life.
	You've been celibate for three years.
	Maybe you get a bit of a pass.
	If you've been celibate for three years and then you want to wait, fine.
	But don't like, don't pull this game of like, oh, I want to wait three months, but then you fucked a guy last week.
	That's the issue I have with it is being consistent in your values.
	I don't know.
	Andrew, you got anything for this?
	Oh, sorry.
	Yeah, if you don't mind, I wouldn't mind engaging a bit on this topic with you.
	So, not you, Brian.
	Sorry.
	Actually, he has a point.
	So, to speak to his actual point with no deflection at all, what would the TPUSA position on this actually be?
	Would the TPUSA position on this be that if a guy does end up dating a chick who was very promiscuous just a month before and she has suddenly turned to Christ in her 30s, of course, that he should date her, that he should wait?
	I mean, what is the prescription here, do you think?
	If you're going to be charitable to Brian's view.
	No, I actually agree with Brian when it comes to if somebody had been promiscuous for months prior and then all of a sudden has decided, okay, you know, today's the day I'm going to go on a date and I'm going to save myself.
	I think there's a lot more work that goes into that than just one week of hooking up with someone and then all of a sudden the week later, you want to go on a date and be with someone.
	Like, there's a lot of steps that we're missing here.
	So, of course, if a woman has slept with, you know, 10 men or however many and then is now going on a first date a week later or a month later, I do think that's a little early.
	Personally, I do think that's a little early to be like, okay, now I want to wait.
	I think as a woman, you would need to honestly reevaluate yourself and not date for a little bit and figure out what's going on.
	Yeah, from the man's perspective, that should be a massive red flag, right?
	Right.
	No, yes.
	You're valid.
	That's what I was going to say.
	Yeah, no.
	I don't even understand what your argument with Brian is about then.
	Because that's what he's saying.
	That's literally all the guy is saying is, well, how is this not a red flag that you decided, oh, look, I finally found Jesus, right?
	As you tend to see many of the porn stars, even who come through this show, who suddenly find Jesus.
	They continue to do porn, interestingly enough, but they claim that they did anyway.
	Are we supposed to give an excuse their past 100 sex partners just because now they have and claim that they found salvation?
	No, that 100% is a reflection.
	I'm considering that a massive red flag.
	No, it's a 100% a red flag.
	100% because it's a lack of judgment.
	And I do believe that Jesus Christ does save us for our sins, but I don't think it's going to be an overnight switch of one day, the day you become saved, the next day, all of a sudden, clean slate.
	Well, it is a clean slate, but it's not like the next day you're going to jump into a relationship.
	I mean, this is a years and years and years long process.
	So if somebody has decided to save themselves, like, let's say five years later, and then you become into a monogamous relationship, let's say you're an ex-porn star, whatever it is.
	But no, I'm not disagreeing with Brian if looking at the timelines of a one week to a month.
	Like, no, that's very reasonable and it isn't.
	Well, then I guess you're going to have to look at Brian and say, Brian, you were right.
	You're right.
	Under.
	Yeah.
	I'll give you two years.
	I'll give you two years.
	If a woman has waited two to three years and has not engaged and has truly dedicated her life to her new self, then different scenario.
	But I will give you that you're right with the red flags.
	I was agreeing with that.
	Is that a checkmate?
	Check me?
	No.
	Well, statistically, I guess.
	Statistically, what are the statistics on this?
	But go ahead.
	Well, statistically, if you're looking at her history of past hookups and dating, and then she claims she seeks salvation.
	It's something to like, I feel like something to look into, but at the same time, According to, like, if we're getting into religious purposes, like, we cannot cast stones at the person.
	Like, you know, let the let the would you date a guy who's shorter than you?
	Would I date a guy?
	Um, sure, actually.
	Grid one Motorsports donated $100 to skew this as a man who until I was 32, when I dated with intent to marry and met my wife within the first year.
	We had sex the first night and have not been apart since.
	When you know, you know.
	Yeah, I mean, I can speak from my own personal experience also, Grid One.
	I mean, I've had a five-year relationship, two-year relationship.
	I've had other long-term nine-month, one-year relationship.
	Most of these were not like, let's go on dates for three months and then finally have.
	No, we had sex relatively quickly.
	Second, third date.
	And yeah.
	So thank you, good one, for the anecdote.
	Wait, so you're saying something about, well, considering a woman's past promiscuity is casting stones and you're not allowed to cast stones.
	I'm saying it's like, you can take it into account, but I'm saying, like, let he who is blameless cast the next stone.
	Which it's biblical.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But so what's your point?
	I'm saying.
	Are you suggesting men should not consider women who've slept with a hundred men previously as suboptimal parts?
	No, I'm not saying, I'm not saying that they can consider whoever they want, however they want.
	I'm saying like to judge them openly, verbally is like.
	Well, they're not going to throw a stone.
	Can they take their stones and go home?
	Yeah.
	100%.
	Because that's all he's saying, right?
	Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
	But that's what I'm arguing.
	I don't really, I'm not going to like have a laugh and be like, oh, you fucking slut.
	No, it's just, to me, it's like me advising other men, don't date those kinds of women.
	And for me personally, I would not date that kind of woman.
	And that's totally different.
	That's the extent.
	That's the extent of my commentary.
	Oh, yeah, that's not 105.
	I don't make it a mission to go out of my way and be like, look at this particular woman who's a slut.
	I don't do that.
	Now, in my own assessment, I'm, of course, thinking, well, I don't think this would be a good person to date, but that's really the extent of it.
	I'm not going to go on the offensive and be belligerent and attack you for it, but I will advise other men.
	This is a sub-optimal dating choice, dating move.
	And for me personally, I wouldn't be a valid.
	That's totally fair.
	That's totally fair.
	Valid.
	What are you doing?
	What the fuck?
	What was that?
	I have ADHD.
	I'm sorry.
	Oh, it's all good.
	It's all good.
	But look, I mean, I think it's wonderful if women are choosing to move in less promiscuous ways.
	If you, you know, try to prioritize long-term relationships, I think that's great.
	But do realize, even if you do make that proactive choice to change up the way you move, that men are still going to consider perhaps your past actions and behavior.
	And even though you've changed, still preclude you from wanting to pursue you for a serious relationship or any kind of relationship.
	And in that scenario, though, I can just tell, I'm just sort of explaining the guy's perspective here of, well, because, for example, we had, I'm not going to expose her, but we had a Christian girl come on the show.
	And she said multiple times that she was waiting for marriage.
	I think she'd been on the show twice.
	And then she came back on the show and she said, well, I'm waiting till marriage to have sex.
	She came back on the show and she, I mean, I give her credit for at least admitting this.
	Said, I had a slip up.
	I had sex with somebody, and then it'd be very hard.
	It would be very frustrating for me, for example, if I had been dating her in between that time, and then, but she was like, Oh, I'm gonna wait.
	And then I find out like a week after we break up, for example, after I dated you for three months.
	And despite my desires to have sex, you're like, No, no, no, I respected it.
	And then, as soon as we break up, you go and fuck another guy.
	I would look, that's tough, that's your prerogative.
	But I'd be like, Well, did you really think that?
	Did you really, were those really your values?
	And then, similarly, if I was about to pursue a woman who said Bass donated $100, you guys are missing the issue here.
	It's not about being Christian now, it's that withholding sex is a tool of manipulation.
	Chad gets the cheeks up front, good guy has to wait for seconds.
	Which I agree.
	I don't think women should use sex as a tool for manipulation, 100%.
	A woman shouldn't withhold sex within marriage, personally.
	Yeah, well, he's even talking before that before if you're going on dates.
	Well, they're using it for compliance or leverage to secure a long-term relationship or to secure monogamy.
	I don't think it's worth it.
	What do you mean, for the guy?
	Or no, for well, either way, I just don't think you should sleep together before, but okay, sure.
	Um, I'm trying to remember where I was what I was saying.
	Oh, and just the last thing: I would also kind of feel like getting a bit of a raw deal if I just met a girl and she told me that a month ago she had a one-night stand with a guy, but now that she's met me, oh, okay, I'm waiting until marriage.
	I'd be like, My dude, a month ago, you fucked some dude in the club.
	Like, that's ridiculous.
	Good for you, but I feel like I'm getting a raw deal here.
	So, goodbye.
	Like, that's it's not like it's not me feeling entitled to anything, it's me, like, okay, I feel like a sucker in this situation.
	So, this isn't, this isn't a fit.
	So, would there be like nothing else you were getting from the relationship besides that?
	What do you mean?
	Because normally, like, when you consider a relationship, you consider like multiple parts of it, not just the sexual end.
	Like, what if sure?
	I, oh, you can obviously women offer a great deal outside of sex.
	Um, what if there was something else that you like found in her, like another quality that you liked?
	She'd basically have to be a slave for me to accept this very suboptimal scenario where I'm essentially a sucker for a month ago, because this is the scenario I gave.
	A month ago, she had a one-night stand with some dude, and now she's telling me she wants to wait three months, six months, or until marriage to have sex.
	She's gonna have to basically be a slave for me.
	She's got to clean my house and shit.
	She's got to fucking vacuum.
	She's got to clean the do some Mr. Miyagi shit, paint the fence, wax on, wax my car and shit in this suboptimal scenario.
	Yes, I understand where you're coming from.
	I honestly don't think any sane woman who wants to date you would say, Oh, hey, by the way, I just got banged two weeks ago, but I want to wait with you.
	Any sane woman will not tell you that.
	So, this is a far-out hypothetical that probably will never happen.
	I would hope she would be honest.
	It's not about honesty, it's about like just again, uh-oh, y'all are gonna love me for this discretion, right?
	You don't need to know anything.
	I do need to know.
	I did two weeks ago.
	I do need to know.
	I don't need to know about the diet.
	I do need to know.
	I do need to know.
	Why do you need to know?
	Because if I find out, if we're, let's say we get engaged and you fucking lied to me about that shit, it's fucking over.
	Goodbye.
	I don't care.
	I don't care if the wedding is fucking planned.
	Okay.
	And if you fuck, you should never fucking lie to a guy like that.
	What are you doing?
	She was just helping me.
	Wait, was there a slip?
	Was there a slip?
	No, she's just looking out.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	Was there?
	I don't.
	I didn't see a Nipple.
	So I was just making sure.
	Okay.
	So what?
	I know.
	I'm just having fun.
	So I think it's a really far-out hypothetical situation that no woman's going to go on a date with you and then tell you that they did something two weeks ago.
	And if she wants to wait for three months, then like, yeah, it's a shitty situation.
	That's your choice to pursue that or not.
	So.
	Well, the thing is, is like, I assume on this first date, there would be some conversation about, you know, where our values align or don't align when it comes to the rapidity with which we would.
	This sounds, I'm framing this.
	You know, when it comes to, do you want to have sex?
	Do you want to wait?
	Not exactly in those words.
	And so if on that date she says, well, I'm waiting till marriage, but in like the scenario you gave two weeks ago, she fucks some dude, you know, that would be.
	I'd find that interesting.
	It would suck.
	That would be like, okay, cool.
	Like, that's not really in alignment with what you just told me.
	And then that's your choice to pursue that or not.
	And that's what she was saying: it takes time to kind of make those changes.
	And you have to also, and like that girl who said she had a slip up, it takes time to implement these changes and these choices and these habits.
	So, so, yeah, but you're okay.
	So, is your advice then to you ought to omit or lie to men and not reveal?
	That's not my advice.
	My stance is it's so hypothetical and it's so far-fetched that, like, most girls won't say that.
	Here's an example, right?
	If I'm actually interested in a girl, one of the questions I might ask her when first meeting her and screening her out is, when's the last time you've had, I mean, the phrasing might be, might change.
	So vulgar.
	When did you get banged last?
	No, I said, when's the last time you've had sex with someone?
	That's a question I might ask because I want to know.
	You fucked a guy last week, not interested.
	Yeah, and that's your choice, and that's okay.
	Right, but so would you recommend a woman in that situation to lie?
	No, no, she needs to say, like, okay, you know, like, she needs to be forthcoming.
	I'm not saying you need to lie.
	I'm just saying, like, most women wouldn't have that kind of switch up or would say that.
	That's all I'm saying.
	Then, wouldn't it be wiser?
	Wouldn't it be wiser advice then to say that if this is something which is new to you, if you've just made this switch over in your life, that you should ease off of dating for a while?
	I agree.
	I would wholeheartedly agree with that.
	Yeah, you should wait.
	If that becomes untied, is it like no, it won't untie.
	It's just, I got animated when I was talking to you, and she was just like, Okay, let's just, if you can, just be cautious of that.
	I will.
	I will.
	Okay, so, well, why don't we?
	I wonder if there's any other, maybe I could give another analogy.
	Someone recommended to me there's a handbag analogy that's good for this one.
	I forgot what it is.
	Now, people are going to.
	I'm making sure there's no nip slip, guys.
	People are like, oh, he's trying to take a peek, huh?
	Okay, we're good.
	All right, let me read this.
	We have, can we get the rating started and wife scale, please?
	Okay, so he's talking about the rating one to ten.
	Wife scale.
	I guess what do you rate yourself on the wife scale?
	One out of one to what is a wife scale?
	Like, are you wife on the scale of one to ten?
	That's what he wants.
	So we'll go around the table really quick on this.
	Go ahead.
	Wife scale.
	Yes, absolutely.
	I have full capabilities of becoming a wife.
	Oh, no.
	I mean, you are a, correct me if I'm wrong, you are a sex worker, right?
	Yeah.
	Currently.
	Why would you think that you would make a good wife?
	Just because I have a certain profession does not take away from my ability to care, love, and provide something that my partner is seeking.
	So all the science would disagree.
	Have you ever heard of a phenomenon called pair bonding?
	No, tell me.
	Are you aware that the less sexual partners a woman has, the easier it is and the more likely it is that she can pair bond with her first sexual partner?
	Okay, but that doesn't mean that I can't bond with my person now.
	Well, it's true.
	You could be the exception to the rule, but wouldn't it throw up a red flag if it was known that the more sexual partners a woman had, the less likely it would be that she would actually be able to bond with you.
	For instance, the more men you sleep with, the more likely you are to be divorced, for instance.
	The more men you sleep with, the more likely you are to step out of a long-term relationship.
	All of those things are true, and that's probably due to this pair bonding thing.
	So why would a man want to trust a sex worker to be a wife?
	Maybe he has also been a part of the industry and understands.
	And also, there are men who make allowances or grace for women and their past.
	There are men out there, and it's not a subpar choice.
	It is just a personal choice.
	And as far as pair bonding goes, I believe that it is up to the woman and her own intuition and her own body and her own ability to connect with oneself when it comes to connecting with another partner.
	Is you have to know yourself.
	You have to know deep down.
	Like you can get all scientific.
	You can bring me statistics, but all it boils down to is the woman's self-awareness.
	And she has with herself.
	I don't care.
	Don't grammar police me.
	I'm just making a point here.
	You can know yourself.
	I was just curious as we get into more of the scientific data here.
	If we can maybe back up just a little bit.
	Okay, yes.
	And we can look at this objectively.
	If your son came to you and said, Mom, I'm going to marry a sex worker.
	What would your advice to him be?
	Follow your dreams, my son.
	My advice to my son, if he wanted to pursue a sex worker, was does she have an exit plan?
	What is yellow's long-term goals?
	Do you support this?
	And if not, what is that trajectory going to look like?
	It's all circumstantial, and there's no just like copy and paste answer to this.
	It's about what one another's motives are.
	And if it's not a good fit, then it's not a good fit, and it's not going to be beneficial or healthy for everyone.
	Now, let's say he came home with Betty Sue and he loved Betty Sue, and Betty Sue had had no sexual partners, and she was just head over heels for him.
	And so was a sex worker at the same time.
	And their prospects look about the same to you.
	Which one would you recommend your boy go with?
	Whatever he feels.
	Or whichever he feels.
	What would you recommend?
	Me personally.
	We already know his feelings.
	He can't decide.
	Mom, what should I do, mom?
	Should I go with the prostitute or with Betty Sue?
	Which one would you tell him?
	I would look at either one's either girl's ambition and what they want to do with their life.
	Because Betty Sue can be a leech, and that prostitute or whoever it is can be prostituted.
	They both want to add value.
	They both want to be veterinarians.
	They both have about the same IQ.
	And they both have about the same resources to go to veterinarian school.
	If you had to choose, which one would you tell your boy he should go with?
	Whoever's going to add the most value to his life.
	And if this prostitute or whoever it is can give him more life advice or more knowledge that's going to help him in the long term, then so be it.
	And which one would you just intuitively say, without looking at any scientific data at all, if your boy asked you, which one do you think will be more loyal to me?
	Which one would you think you would tell him would be more loyal, was more likely to be more loyal to him?
	I believe it's all about their own personal choice to commit.
	So, yeah, I mean, you can look at someone's past behavior.
	You can look at all of that, but it's about the commitment and the now and the choice that they're making.
	So Betty Sue may have, she may have not been with anyone else, and that might motivate her to pursue other options, as opposed to this prostitute who has been with several people and knows what else is out there, knows that my son is a good man and that she is winning the lottery because she has experienced all of these other people.
	But sexual experience means nothing in the dating world because if your son, hypothetical son, is going into a relationship with a sex worker, which both of you are.
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	Purple Jacket, 3, not a wife, already a wife, Angry A Cups, 4 and not a wife.
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	Yo, this guy's gone in for me, man.
	This guy is gunning for me, right?
	We have one more coming through, and then Morgan will finish with her question there.
	Thank you, KDF.
	Thank you, the Bronaissance.
	Oh, so the guys before me weren't good enough for you to settle down with, but they still got to F.
	Now I'm the man of your dreams, but I don't even get what the bums got.
	Make it make sense.
	Yeah, pretty much.
	I mean, that's going back to what I was talking about before.
	So women will like, it's just funny with that, like they'll give the sexual benefit to these you'll say they're fuckboys, they were jerks, assholes, not deserving of it.
	And then the guy who is desert, who is actually deserving of it, he's the good guy, whatever.
	He's the one who gets to wait.
	Men are waking up to this and seeing that's kind of a raw deal.
	And yeah.
	Can I just make this last point real quick?
	I'm almost almost done.
	Okay.
	And then we'll have to go.
	Just curious on this, just back to you real quick.
	How would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning?
	For me?
	Yes, you.
	Oh, I mean, I had breakfast.
	Okay, I thought you did.
	Thank you.
	Was that a job?
	What was the point of that question?
	Mikilodion donated $100.
	She would tell him neither, because her degeneratus will be desperate to keep the only man in her life to herself.
	She would tell me either because of her general.
	As if like the hypothesis.
	Andrew, do you want to explain that really quick?
	Yeah, so this question, and it's more of a meme.
	It doesn't really have any scientific foundation at all, but it is kind of funny.
	If you ask a person what they had for breakfast this morning, you're engaging, or how would they feel if they hadn't had breakfast this morning?
	What you're doing is you're engaging in a hypothetical and you're trying to examine what they think they would feel like had they not eaten breakfast.
	But there's many people who can't engage in hypotheticals and so they just respond with, but I did have breakfast this morning.
	And so that's the point of the question.
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	Morgan, you had a question.
	And just to be clear, you did have breakfast this morning.
	I don't understand.
	Okay, all I hear is breakfast right now, so let's keep it rolling.
	Okay.
	The point I was making is that if there is a woman who has a significantly high body count, a sex worker, and then a woman who does not, statistically, morally, physically, you can know your inner being as much as you want.
	But if you have slept with 100 plus people or even 50 plus people, that woman is going to most likely cheat on her husband.
	She is going to want to divorce her husband.
	She is going to want to leave in that situation because sexual experience means nothing.
	You can sleep around with as many people as you want in your past life and then going into a marriage, but that sexual experience is not actually offering anything to the marriage other than her actually being insecure in that marriage and always constantly comparing.
	And Andrew was bringing up pair bonding, and it's the oxytocin, it's the hormones in a woman's body that is being released that when you are engaging in intercourse with a man, you are being bonded to that person and then creating the inability to be able to connect with future partners for a longer term relationship.
	But I've also heard people being like, like older people being like 30s in their 40s, being like, I've only slept with my wife and da and this is why we're breaking up and it didn't go as planned and like I wish I got to experience more people when I was younger and I feel like the man or the woman?
	A lot of the times the man.
	A lot of the times the man.
	Which I mean sure that maybe like a five to ten percent of I don't think it's about 10 percent of marriage.
	There is a significant large gap between women who have a lower body count versus women who have a higher body count and the happiness in marriage, success in marriage, and divorce rate in our country.
	I mean 53% of marriages end in divorce in America and 80% are initiated by the woman.
	I'd like to add a little bit.
	Also the multiple relationships, multiple sexual relationships, whatever.
	You're also practicing to divorce because you're never committing to anything.
	You're just learning how to break up.
	And so the more partners that you're having, the more likely it is that you're going to divorce.
	You'd have to work 10 times as hard to stay in that relationship had you been somebody who had multiple relationships.
	I have a question.
	Can I ask you something, Sha?
	How do you not have feelings for people that you have sex with?
	That's a really good question.
	It's pretty common.
	It's about compartmentalizing and it's a choice.
	So yeah, it's compartmentalization.
	Do you find it difficult to do that?
	It's easy.
	No.
	No, because at the end of the day, like it's a job and it's like, okay, I'm not going to chalk it up to anything because it's its own field and there's no right comparison and I would be doing it injustice if I tried to make a comparison.
	But it's about compartmentalizing, and it is the choice to kind of turn on those feelings and those connections.
	And if you are someone who does not have that ability, then maybe that's not the right field.
	Or maybe you need to get in touch with yourself a little bit more before you start to engage in promiscuous activity.
	Do you think it's gotten easier to compartmentalize the more you've been in the industry?
	I would say I've comparted, yes, and I would say yes.
	It's something that you have to have kind of already, and you have to have that relationship with yourself.
	That's why this industry, this profession, is not for everybody.
	And that's why so many people do have problems.
	That's why you do hear these stories is because the women themselves have not done that self-work to be able to differentiate more.
	So then that means that it's you, as you go, it's becoming more and more common for you to be able to not pair bond with your sexual partners.
	It's a choice.
	That's why I believe that this whole pair bond.
	Oh, well, wait, wait.
	Is loving a person a choice?
	Like loving a man that you fall in love with?
	Is that a choice or is it not a choice?
	You have, I mean, you can have control over your own feelings and your own emotions as much as you want.
	So I can feel something for her and I can feel that strong connection and I can say, no, I don't want to pursue that because that will honor me in these other ways.
	But when asked, most women will say, and this is, you can, again, you can look up data on this as well, that they don't have a choice as to who it is they're attracted to and who it is that they love.
	Of course, the reason for this is pair bonding.
	So if you're saying, I can now compartmentalize that, and you're basically saying, now I can control who it is that I fall in love with and don't fall in love with.
	It's not even a choice now, right?
	Or now it is a choice, whereas before it would not have been.
	Wouldn't you consider this to be kind of a pushback against this idea that, you know, maybe you're not so great with the pair bonding if you could just turn it off like that?
	Like, why couldn't you just turn it off like that with your boyfriend, too?
	Because I choose not to.
	Right, because you choose not to, right?
	Dive deeper into that.
	So, I mean, and some encounters are, I'm going to, it's a progression, right?
	So when the first time you have sex with someone, you might feel like really, really into them.
	And then the next time it's not really there.
	Or you might have sex with a first for with a person and it's good, it's great, but you don't feel that connection.
	But the next time, after time has progressed, you feel a deeper connection.
	It's all circumstantial.
	Yeah, but what I'm saying to you is that if most women don't have a choice, let's say, on a biological level, they fall head over heels for the person that they engage with the very first time in a sexual romantic relationship.
	Their biological drive is telling them to do that.
	You're saying, not mine.
	I've got a choice.
	I can just turn that shit off.
	How would that not be a red flag to a guy?
	Wouldn't the guy be like, you can just turn that on and off?
	I mean, then that's just, I mean, not everyone's going to have that ability.
	And I mean, it's what you decided to do.
	Right, that's my whole point.
	Not everyone's going to have that ability, but women who've had many, many, many sexual partners, especially who are in the porn industry, I could see them having that ability very easily, right?
	They could just turn that shit off.
	Yeah.
	So I don't, it seems like that would be like a massive red flag, right?
	Well, are you if you're in a relationship, are you able to control it as much as it is opposed to like, say, one of your clients or anything like that?
	Control what?
	Do you have more?
	I don't have clients.
	I have co-performers and co-stars.
	How many scenes have you done?
	I've done some.
	Some?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So to answer your question.
	Your question is for me.
	Sometimes I have to, you know, like with my partner, it's sometimes I want to go and I can dive deeper into that and then sometimes I just want that sexual satisfaction from my partner.
	So not everyone all over the world, every time they have sex, is going to feel that deep connection with their partner every single time.
	And it has to be the right moment, the right time.
	And so if, like you're, you and your husband are horny and wherever, and you only have a certain amount of time, you're not going to be able to have that whole like special interaction, that special feeling, that magical moment whenever you're crunched for time.
	So I think it's it applies all across the board is like you have to actively seek that and feel that in that moment.
	And again, here we're gonna move on, we the original question was going around the table, what do you rate yourself?
	One out of ten on the wife scale.
	Go ahead.
	Well, I'm not looking to be a wife right now, ever so, that's.
	So right now, what are you on the wife scale?
	Well, I'm not looking to be a wife right now.
	So I have no wife qualities.
	I work all the time, I work too much.
	So okay, let's say zero.
	Then I'm ten ten okay zero, you're zero because of the stripping.
	Yeah okay, I think I'm decently high up there on the wife scale, I feel like, especially with my current partner.
	Now you want to give us a number?
	Um, we'll go with nine.
	Okay, my husband would say ten, but I would actually say like an eight, nine.
	But I say that because I just had a baby, so like wifely duties, like the intimacy and stuff, has been a little on the lesser side right now.
	I say nine because there's honest room.
	I feel like some of my duties I haven't been performing 100% because of newborn.
	Okay oh wait, that's not.
	That's not a mark against you.
	Yeah, that's not a mark against you that you just had a baby and so you're exhausted and you're staying up all night taking care of your baby.
	They're crying.
	You have a mixed feeding schedule.
	That's good.
	Wifing, that's right.
	That's point that points added.
	I was thinking that when the question was asked, I was like oh, i'm not really like doing, well, now does your husband have to get up in the middle of the night and go do any of that?
	He does we.
	Oh well, then that's yeah, that's he wants to, other than that.
	No, so you were doing great, actually.
	Like so, with uh, with the pumping, He decided, like, look, you've been getting up so much.
	I will take on, like, just leave me a bottle and I'll get up with her.
	Oh, I thought you were going to say he was going to punk.
	No, I've a meet the parents, you're going to milk.
	Yeah, no, Like, so, like, we came with, you know, a routine.
	Yeah.
	That has worked for both of us.
	It's his first kid, so he was glad to do something.
	What about you?
	Yeah.
	I would say a nine.
	Nine in the wife.
	Wait, you're a nine in the wife?
	I would say so, yeah.
	You sure about that?
	Yeah, I mean, I have, I just have a caring heart, and I feel like I'd be a great wife, and I'm great with children, and I want a family, and that's like where my mindset's at right now.
	That I want to be a wife.
	The reason I'm a bit is incredulous the right, is that the right word?
	Andrew, is that the right word?
	Incredulous?
	You said you've been singing.
	That would be the correct context for the word.
	Yeah.
	Incredulous.
	I also.
	Brian, I'm very incredulous.
	But I'll let you lead off here.
	You say you're a nine in the wife department, but you've been single for five years.
	So the guys aren't seeing the wife.
	Maybe she's waiting for the right guy to give it to.
	Give the wife to.
	Yeah, I'm just, you know, I want the right person.
	And obviously, in my past, for the five years, I just haven't found that right person.
	And I've been learning and growing.
	And yeah, I mean, I'm not.
	A nine on the wife scale, though.
	I mean, that's a very, that's a high, that's high on the wife scale.
	I would assume you would have no problem finding a partner if you're a, you know?
	You know what I mean?
	Wait, did you say of the, like, these three to six month relationships, more often than not, were you ending them or was the guy ending them?
	Because if you're ending them, you could probably make an argument for you being a nine on the wife scale, but if they're ending it, you know what I mean?
	I think it's a mixture.
	But most of the time, maybe I've ended it because I started to realize I want something, you know, more seriously.
	And some of them weren't taking, you know, taking it as seriously into a relationship.
	All right, Morgan, what about you?
	One to ten on the wife scale.
	One scale.
	On the wife scale.
	I would give myself a nine.
	I would give myself a nine.
	All right, there you go.
	Nine for Morgan.
	Now, do I, because she also rated, do I need to grill you as hard?
	What, me?
	You should go for it.
	What's going on, Morgan?
	Why am I a non-where's the husband?
	Where's the fiancé?
	You know, I'm dating intentionally.
	I can cook.
	I can clean.
	I actually love cooking.
	On my Instagram, a lot of guys will actually swipe up on my recipes and all.
	That looks delicious.
	I am willing to forego career to pursue motherhood and being a wife.
	That's what I want.
	Since I was a kid, I've always wanted to be a mom.
	Would you still consider, because I mean, you're out there kind of as a.
	How do you describe the work you do?
	Like a content creator?
	You're like a political pundit?
	I would say media personality.
	Media personality, political commentator.
	Political commentator.
	So, but are you going to, when you want to totally retreat from public life once you get married, or will you still kind of do stuff?
	There will be Instagram and YouTube will still be there, but that will not be at the forefront of my focus at all.
	It will be like if I have a news hit or if I have a podcast appearance that I can make, but it's not going to be my current schedule of traveling four times every week.
	It will be, you know, maybe once a month.
	How many sons do you want?
	How many sons do I want?
	Well, I want five kids.
	Five kids.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	Three to five.
	All right, three to five.
	I need sons to continue the lineage and take care of the daughters.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Brian, what are you on the wife's?
	I mean, the husband.
	The husband scale?
	Yeah, that's a good question.
	On the wife scale, I'm a zero.
	The husband scale.
	Hmm, that's a good question.
	Seven?
	Why?
	Seven?
	Why?
	Well, how do I articulate this?
	Well, you asked husband versus father.
	I feel like I'd be much.
	I think I'd be higher on the father scale.
	Husband scale?
	Yeah, just the husband scale.
	A seven.
	I'm a solid seven.
	All right.
	Why are you a seven, though?
	I don't know.
	I've never been asked this question, so I feel like I'd need to think it up.
	You gotta ask questions that you can find.
	I never answer questions.
	That's the thing.
	So I always get bamboozled when someone's like, well, tell us about you, Brian.
	I'm like, holy shit, this is new.
	You've got to start including that.
	Let's see.
	I mean, I can tell you seven on the husband scale.
	Well, okay.
	Well, here's the thing, right?
	I'm actually a zero on the husband scale because don't want to get married.
	Period, right?
	So I'm not a zero on the husband scale.
	Don't want to get married.
	I totally agree.
	But like in the colloquial sense of like a husband.
	Sorry, Dandruff.
	Fucking just came out of nowhere.
	Yeah, I'm a zero because I don't want to get married.
	I'm glad we can agree.
	I could have a wife.
	I'm sorry, not a wife.
	I could have someone I'm with for the rest of my life.
	It can be a monogamous relationship.
	I can have kids even.
	But you wouldn't marry them?
	Maybe a religious ceremony, but then I'd have to look into the various legalities when it comes to if you even have a religious ceremony.
	Do you have a common law marriage?
	I don't know if that's the case in California.
	If I end up moving somewhere, I'd have to look into the legalities of it.
	If you want to have like a token ceremony, or excuse me, I shouldn't say token ceremony.
	If you're really dead set on having a ceremony, but in the government's eye, in the state's eye, I'm not getting married.
	Right.
	I'm not getting married.
	I'm glad we can see I die.
	What's up?
	Brian.
	Let's go.
	Yeah.
	It's just like, what, here, let me ask you a question.
	What can I get in a marriage that I can't just get from a long-term monogamous relationship?
	I guess there's like different legal benefits.
	You mean negative.
	Your taxes are better.
	I don't care.
	I'm going to say tax.
	The tax benefits are so negligible to me.
	I don't care.
	I don't care.
	Do you think your kids will care that you're not married to them?
	Oh, that's a good question.
	I mean, no.
	They won't care.
	Maybe not.
	Maybe if you're raising the money.
	I mean, there's really no, there's no longer any societal stigma to having kids out of wedlock, and there's no societal stigma to divorce.
	So I don't think they would, so long as we're loving and caring parents, I can't imagine the kids if we raise them in, like, for example, a household that doesn't elevate marriage.
	I don't think they would care, to be honest.
	Yeah.
	Perhaps, I mean, depending if their influence within their friend group, I mean, I don't think that would play a role, though.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	But so.
	In the spirit of Dragon Ball Z, the Dragon Ball Z theme that Brian's been going with since nobody asked me, but I'll tell you anyway.
	On the husband scale, my power level's over 9,000.
	It's insane.
	I am quite possibly the best which has ever existed on the husband scale.
	My aforementioned.
	It's over 9 times.
	This orientation around duty to my family is just simply unparalleled.
	Just so you know.
	Second thing.
	Plus, my wife said I was a 10, so I'm just regurgitating what she said.
	But I'll open the question up to the rest of the table, then we'll move on to something else.
	But what can I get or what can I get in the marriage that I cannot get in a long-term monogamous relationship?
	It's not, I don't think it's about you.
	Like, marriage is not really for men.
	It's for the children and the mother.
	What do my, okay, fine, let's talk, sure.
	What do my children get if I'm married to my partner versus just a long-term monogamous relationship?
	Disability, maybe?
	No, but it's a long-term.
	Let's say that relationship goes for life.
	Let's compare like for like.
	So you're in a marriage and it goes for life.
	No divorce.
	Everything's good.
	Great.
	Like, you know, everything's good compared to me in a long-term relationship.
	Everything's good.
	We're together for life.
	What's the difference for the kids?
	I think it's easier to escape in a sense.
	Like, I know you're saying that.
	No, But the scenario.
	There's no room for what?
	For like escaping at all.
	This is like set.
	Like, you know, it's going to continue like this, you're saying.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Wait, so what?
	What?
	Oh, were you going to.
	You're asking what your benefit is.
	Not what's the benefit for anybody.
	I guess religious perspective, like if you're looking at it from a religious perspective, it's like security and like, you know.
	Yeah, right.
	But secular marriage itself doesn't make sense.
	And to Brian's point, the response that you had was, well, it seems like it's easier for you to escape from a position of privilege, right?
	That's a hell of a thing to say because right now it's easier for the woman to, quote, escape and the woman who gets quote the benefits, right, of escaping, whereas the man does not in the current marriage market for secularists.
	So, you know, to your point on religion, sure.
	But what would actually be the point of a secularist getting married?
	I really, I don't understand what the point of that would even be.
	Genuinely, there is none.
	Like, I'm coming from this from a religious point of view, but from a secular view, there really isn't a necessary point other than, you know, oh, you just want to be married on a piece of paper or you want the tax credits.
	But if you are 100% secular, you're living with your partner, you're sleeping with your partner, you're cooking, you're cleaning, you have kids together, you have dogs together, it's going to be virtually the same as then if you were married.
	From a religious point of view, you know, I think that secularism has tainted what marriage is and the beauty of marriage because it was intended of, yes, you get to live with your partner when you're married.
	You get to be intimate with your partner when you're married.
	You get to do these things together when you're married.
	But now in society, we're doing that all before marriage to where it's true.
	What is the point of marriage?
	What is the point of commitment and having a marriage and having that unity if you're already doing all the benefits beforehand?
	Which, so I agree when there are guys that are like, what is the point of getting married?
	I feel for that because truly within the society that we live in now, what is the point of getting married if you're not holding out or waiting or intentionally doing those things for marriage?
	You're asking me?
	Or no, just in general.
	I was just laying it out.
	Yeah.
	It's unfortunate.
	Yeah, it's really, I don't, there's not really much in it for men right now because, yeah, everyone can have, men can have anything they want really before marriage.
	And that's very, very frequent.
	And I don't want to be like the black pill, like no one should get married because I do think that marriage is really beautiful.
	But I do think that women and men both need to raise their standards.
	What's beautiful about secular marriage?
	No, not secular marriage.
	I think they need to raise their standards to where they're not pursuing something that is a completely secular lifestyle.
	Do you even consider secular marriage, marriage?
	Personally?
	Yeah.
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	I would consider it maybe like a civil union.
	You're married, quote unquote, within government standards.
	You live together.
	You're unified.
	But no, I view marriage between a man and a woman under the eyes of God.
	So basically the panel's advice to the viewers here, if you're not religious, there's no reason.
	There's zero reason you should get married.
	Well, also, just to piggyback off that further, there never was.
	There never was a reason to get married other than through religious sanctification.
	If there was, I would like to know what it was.
	And if I can piggyback off of that, not only is there no reason, no beneficial reason to get married, there's actually plenty of reasons why you shouldn't get married outside of a religious context for secular reasons.
	There's numerous reasons why you should.
	Well, there's numerous reasons why a woman should do it, assuming she's not the breadwinner.
	But there's a lot of reasons from the male perspective why you shouldn't do it.
	Talking alimony.
	We're talking communal property.
	We're talking half your shit.
	Don't do it.
	Don't do it, gentlemen.
	Don't do it.
	You can come crying back to me after you get divorced and we'll talk about it.
	Well, now prenups are more popular.
	Don't care.
	No.
	What's the point?
	Okay, cool.
	Prenups, cool.
	So then, when you want to dispute the prenup because you feel like the prenup was unconscionable, you signed an unconscionable contract.
	Then we're going to be paying, we're each going to be paying, or if I'm the breadwinner, I'm going to be paying for my lawyer and then I have to pay for your lawyer for us to argue over the legalities and the enforceability of this contract, which we both signed.
	Wouldn't the ultimate prenup be to just not get married?
	That's the ultimate prenup.
	That's the ultimate prenup.
	Okay, I'm going to read these two chats.
	Then we got some more stuff.
	Wait, did we?
	No, we read this one, right?
	Morgan, can I have you read this one?
	Yes, a woman's past is very important to a man.
	If women were open about their past, honest about every aspect of it, and used some common sense, maybe they'd have a better chance of finding good partners and long-lasting relationships.
	Ever think of that?
	I agree.
	Thoughts for thoughts.
	Thank you, man.
	And then we have Daniel W., if you can read this one.
	Marriage is a commitment.
	I have dealt with my children daily when I say, quote, when are mom and you going to live together again?
	I want mom and you to love one another again.
	Happy is a state of mind and it wanes and grows.
	Women are taught today to give up and classify everything as abuse.
	No fault divorce.
	Yeah, this is a fantastic point that the super chatter Daniel brings up, which is that marriage is not ultimately about happiness.
	It's about submission to God and it's about growing a family.
	That's the point of marriage.
	It's not about, it's never been about, you can have whole years, multiple years in a marriage where you're miserable due to the conditions that you're in.
	It happens.
	It's like, it's never been the point that you get married because of happiness or you stay married due to happiness.
	That's just absurd.
	That's why I don't think secularists can really make it in marriage and why they fail so often.
	Or the Christians who basically identify as being Christian, but who are actually secularists as well, is because they see it as a happiness index rather than as what it's supposed to be, which is a long-term commitment under God that you're not supposed to break covenant.
	You're not supposed to break.
	And even if you're miserable, you're supposed to work through that shit together.
	100%.
	We have Stiffler here.
	Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10, starting with you.
	Looks.
	Scale 1 to 10.
	I'm a 10 to somebody.
	You're a 10 to somebody?
	Yeah.
	I may not be a 10 to you or anyone else that you may meet, but I'm a 10 to someone, and so that's why.
	I'm probably.
	What would you say that you are to most people?
	Yeah.
	I'm not inside most people's heads, so I'm not going to answer that.
	Well, you're not inside most people.
	I'm not going to entertain you.
	Stay on, Ingon.
	Hang on, this makes no sense.
	Hang on.
	Hang on, Ingon.
	This makes no sense.
	You just said to somebody you're a 10.
	So apparently you can read somebody's mind, but you can't read everybody's mind.
	But nobody's going to tell me that.
	If you can read at least one person's mind, they're going to think you're a 10.
	What do you think most people think?
	Actually, most people tell me that I'm a 10.
	Most people tell you you're a 10?
	The ones that I interact with, and if they don't think that I'm a 10, they don't need to interact with me.
	Period.
	How's that conversation go?
	Do you ask them?
	Are you like, do you think I'm a 10?
	No, I don't ask that conversation.
	How does that go?
	I don't ask that kind of question.
	Are these the simps on your OnlyFans?
	No.
	Okay.
	Then we don't talk about, they don't rate me.
	I don't ask to be rated.
	So who are these people that are just randomly rating you?
	I don't ask to be rated.
	I'm just saying, but to some people or a lot of people or the ones that I interact with, I am a 10, but it's not like how would you know?
	Hey, baby, they tell you?
	You're a 10.
	Well, but do they tell you?
	I check all the boxes for a lot of people, and that's it.
	That's all.
	That's all that needs to be said.
	You said that this question is what?
	It's just, I don't remember the question.
	You said degrading.
	It's degrading.
	Why is it degrading to degrading?
	10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5.
	I don't think that's the definition of degrading.
	Yeah, but it's D.
	It's like going down a scale.
	You're degrading.
	So for me, I'm not going to engage with this anymore.
	Okay.
	Let me ask, well, here, I've got some questions for you.
	How tall are you?
	5'7.
	Do you have any preference, any preference at all when it comes to a man's height?
	Okay, yes.
	What's your preference?
	I prefer them to be same height or taller.
	What's the ideal height for a guy for you?
	Probably about six foot.
	Six foot.
	So speaking of grades, speaking of like numerical ranking, you are making an attractiveness assessment on a man based off of a literal, literal measurement.
	Okay.
	A numerical ranking.
	That would be an immutable characteristic.
	Okay.
	So you're making a assessment on them based off of a physical trait, like Andrew said, immutable.
	Immutable.
	Immutable.
	Immutable characteristic.
	Immutable characteristic.
	Okay.
	But I'm not going to be like, oh, no, you're an age.
	So are you degrading?
	Are you degrading men by refusing to date men who are short, for example?
	The topic here is what is your looks on a scale of one to ten, not how tall are you?
	But you're saying it's degrading to have a conversation about one's looks.
	To rate someone and to ask them, like, hey.
	But you do that same assessment when it comes to your potential romantic.
	But I'm not like you're in a person not six foot.
	I think that it could be detrimental to somebody's self-esteem asking somebody like that type of question.
	It's detrimental to someone's self-esteem.
	I feel like it could be that way, but they have a weak constitution and they need to prepare themselves for the brutalities.
	Well, you've heard of the tale, of course, of the emperor with no clothes, right?
	No.
	Indulge me.
	Please.
	Oh, well, the emperor with no clothes.
	I'll just make it very, very quick, very brief.
	There was an emperor who's very picky about his clothing.
	They couldn't find the right clothing, and so everybody lied to him and told him that he was dressed, and they he went through the streets naked while everybody just lied to him and told him how nice his clothing was, right?
	So I'm sure that that was a big boost for his self-esteem to be lied to.
	But if he had a choice to know that he was naked or not, I wonder which thing he would have chosen.
	It's an interesting story.
	So wait, can you?
	How is it degrading?
	I know you love this.
	I know you love this.
	Yeah, I love it.
	I know you do.
	I know.
	This is one of the favorite.
	This is like a pinpoint in your lovely show.
	It really is.
	But no, honestly, like, I think that I'm a 10 to someone out there, and that's all that matters to me.
	And not what's your own self-assessment?
	My own self-assessment is your own looks.
	Is not something that I'm going to answer because I don't believe in that.
	So I'm not going to answer.
	All right, here.
	Well, let's go around the table.
	Maybe I'll come back to that.
	8.5.
	8.5.
	I'm a 7, but my fiancé thinks I'm a 10.
	Okay.
	I'm not going to sit here and rate myself, but I know I'm not everybody's cup of tea, but I think I'm pretty, but I don't think I'm not everybody likes like not everybody is attracted to me.
	Okay, so you don't have to give yourself a precise rating, but do you think you're a 10?
	No.
	Okay.
	Maybe, no.
	Oh, were you going to say maybe I'm a what?
	Do you want to just rate yourself?
	It seems like you've got a lot of things.
	Okay, okay, okay.
	An 8.5.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	What about you?
	Same with her.
	I'm different to like everybody, but I'd say I'm like average.
	So five?
	What is average?
	I suppose that would be five.
	But you could be, I suppose, average could also be four and six.
	Yeah, I'd say within that range.
	Average.
	Okay.
	So I'll just say five.
	We'll say five, I guess.
	Is that your end?
	I'm fine with anything.
	I don't really care.
	Well, just engage.
	I don't know.
	I'm average.
	I'm average.
	Whatever you, whatever you think.
	Yeah, it's quite a bit.
	Objectively perfect and one being objectively in the world.
	There is like the prettiest to like the not like pretty as like objectively viewing a woman.
	I think I'm still anywhere within like the I don't know five to six like average six.
	We'll go six a six before the baby four now because I'm working on it.
	Okay.
	I would say a six.
	All right.
	Morgan said eight every show.
	All right.
	Still an eight.
	I'm a five.
	I'm a five.
	Maybe there's someone out there who thinks I'm a ten.
	Yeah.
	But my own.
	Yes, but but they're probably few and far between.
	My own self-assessment is I'm a five.
	I thought the last time you said you were a seven.
	I said six and then I've seen it.
	Okay, then why did it go down?
	Oh, I've gained weight.
	Oh, okay.
	I've gone.
	Dad bought those working on it.
	There's a lot of girls that like dad bought those.
	They're trendy.
	But I'm so I'm ranking my own.
	I'm ranking my own.
	Also, I think that's partially.
	I think there's some women who are like, maybe, but I think it's cap from most women who are like, oh, dad bots.
	So yes, I need to lose a bit of weight.
	So that's why I downgraded my ranking.
	So easy, easy.
	So, oh, Andrew, what are you?
	Four.
	Four.
	Okay.
	Wait, so going back to you, you said you're a 10.
	Okay.
	And this is based on our own accord, right?
	So if it's of my own accord, what does your opinion have to do with it?
	Well, nothing really.
	Nothing.
	In fact, it has nothing to do with it.
	So based on your own accord, what would you say, according to you, you are?
	Yes, I'm a 10.
	Is that what you want?
	So we just want an honest assessment of what you think you are.
	Can I ask you a question?
	Who's a man who you think is unattractive?
	I don't have any names.
	Are you, when it comes to your politics, are you more liberal?
	Are you moderate?
	Or are you conservative?
	I'm pretty apolitical.
	Apolitical.
	Do you know who Donald Trump is?
	Yeah.
	When it comes to your disposition towards him, do you like him or do you dislike him?
	Hold on.
	When it comes to your disposition towards Donald Trump, do you like him or do you dislike him as a person, politically, whatever may be?
	How did we go?
	Now, there is only one right answer.
	Just engage.
	Just engage with the question.
	Kenny, go ahead.
	Just engage with the question.
	Okay, engaging with your question.
	You don't need to repeat me.
	You can just answer the question.
	I don't care for Donald Trump.
	So you're leaning towards dislike?
	I don't care for him.
	He has no place in my book.
	Okay.
	So, do you find Donald Trump, is he a 10 to you?
	In terms of looks?
	He is not a 10, but he's a 10 to Melania, and that's him.
	Okay, now if he were to come in here and say that he's a 10, your assessment and his assessment, there's a conflict there, right?
	And that's his personal MO.
	So your position is not everybody can be a 10, or everybody is a 10, correct?
	No, anyone can be any number they want in their head.
	That is my position.
	So if let me ask you a question.
	So if Donald Trump, and maybe you wouldn't even say this to his face, but if Donald Trump said, I'm a 10 out of 10, in your head, would you disagree with his assessment of himself?
	You don't have to tell him, but would you disagree with his assessment?
	If Donald Trump was like, hey, Addie, I'm a 10, I'd be like, great.
	That's great, Donald.
	I'm happy for you.
	But would you disagree with his assessment?
	No.
	You might placate him in his delusion, but.
	No, no, it doesn't matter to me.
	I'm not asking if it matters or it doesn't matter to you.
	I'm asking if you, in your own mind, would you disagree with his assessment of his own attractiveness?
	No.
	Because what he thinks in his mind.
	Who's that guy on that show who's got the kind of funny neck?
	Who's like overweight?
	Ed.
	Ed.
	90-day fiancé.
	Can you pull up Google images of Ed?
	Oh, my God.
	He thinks he's a 10.
	Okay.
	So let's say Ed's here on the show.
	I'm so excited.
	Big Ed.
	Big Ed.
	I was sucked into that season.
	Yes.
	I've only seen the pictures.
	No, just let her.
	Just let her.
	You haven't watched it yet?
	What's going on back there?
	I love 90 Day Fiancé.
	That's cool.
	You just got to say he's a 10 out of 10, right?
	Okay.
	So let's say he comes on the show and he says, I'm a 10.
	Okay.
	He's overweight.
	Look, I'm not trying to talk to him.
	I'm sure he's a nice guy.
	Is he?
	I don't know.
	I've never seen this bullshit show.
	I haven't watched it.
	Okay, he says he's a 10.
	Do you have, do you disagree with that?
	Would you disagree with him?
	The question is to his own accord in his own book.
	So what he rates himself in his own book has nothing to do with me.
	Well, it has to do with the reality.
	He's living his own reality as I'm living my own and you're living yours.
	So it doesn't matter.
	You're really dancing around this conversation.
	Do you think there's like an objective like one to ten at all?
	Or it's like everybody, you can say you're a 10, you're a 10.
	If you're a 10, you're a 10.
	What's your perfect guy?
	Like, describe him.
	Like how toll is he?
	My perfect guy is the one that I'm with right now.
	6'2, ripped body.
	And isn't that funny?
	Is he she says she would date a guy her height and above, but the guy she happens to be in a relationship with is in the like top five percentile of height.
	You said he's 6'2.
	Women always say this.
	Well, I would date a short guy.
	I would date a guy.
	I've dated.
	Who's my blah, And then you ask them, well, who are you dating?
	Six foot, six foot, six, one, six, two, six, three.
	It's true.
	It's fucking such cap.
	It's such cap.
	Do you mind if I ask you a couple of questions real quick?
	Yeah, go for it.
	From your perspective, I understand what you're saying.
	You're saying this is a subjective metric.
	There's really no way for me to determine somebody's personal self-assessment of themselves, right?
	So let me ask you this: Can you, from your own metric, judge whether or not a woman is pretty?
	Beauty subjective.
	Beauty subjective.
	From your subjective preference, can you subjectively determine if a woman is pretty?
	I have my personal preferences, yeah.
	Yeah, so you can make the determination subjectively if a woman is pretty.
	So couldn't you subjectively then take all of those things which you would consider pretty in a woman and then apply them to yourself?
	Sure.
	Okay, so if you did that, what would your rating for yourself be?
	I don't have one.
	Yeah, but you just said you did because you have one for other women.
	My ideal woman is probably somewhere a little bit shorter than me, 36C on the cup, active, cares about herself, cares about the environment.
	And like, that's just my favorite.
	And that's a 10.
	That's a 10 to you, right?
	Yeah, sure.
	And are you that?
	I'm not.
	I can't do anything about this right here.
	Well, if you're not.
	I can't then.
	Hang on.
	You aren't that.
	Hang on, hang on.
	If you aren't that thing that you just said is the perfect beauty standard for you, then why would you apply, even subjectively, a 10 standard to yourself?
	Because there's, unless I get a reduction, there's nothing that I can do to change that.
	I just think a 36C is perfect.
	Right, I know.
	And you fall short of what that perfection is.
	Oh, I do.
	So I must be a 6C.
	Of what you consider a 10 to be.
	So then, even by your own subjective standard, hang on, even by your own subjective standard, which you're falling short of, how could you then still call yourself a 10?
	Because I'm a 10 to someone.
	Yeah, I know, but to you, even.
	You are applying your own standard to you based on what you think of other women because that's the only way you can come up with a standard for yourself.
	That's the only thing you can see.
	I love it.
	Thank you so much.
	This is a lot of fun.
	I mean, I'm having a ball.
	Me too.
	Thank you.
	So, anyway, back to the question.
	Even if it's subjective, it seems that you can have an objective metric, at least, even from a subjective preference, because you make that metric for other women all the time.
	Why can't you apply it to you?
	Here you go.
	Here's your answer: I'm an eight because my tits are too big to be a 10.
	Okay, fair enough.
	At least we got an answer that we think you actually might believe.
	That one was funny.
	I just want to say I'm a 10 to her.
	Like, I'm a tender.
	Are you 30, 16?
	I was.
	Baby.
	That'll come back.
	Good morning, Nick.
	Can you pull up these chats?
	We'll have more in your chat.
	By the way, did you say the environment?
	Yeah, I was going to ask, actually.
	How does that apply to a beauty standard if they care about the environment?
	It's just a trade-off.
	Couldn't they be like an evil oil driller who's just out there just drilling oil and being like the environment that did not follow the beauty criteria you have?
	Rate your intelligence on a scale of zero to 200.
	P.S. Shout out to Gustavo for keeping his eyes up all show.
	Intelligence?
	You're on a scale of zero to 200?
	I would say I'm about 100 for intelligence.
	Do you know how long she's been on?
	Go up.
	How long should she be on her?
	Do you go?
	Go around the table.
	Keep going.
	Rating your intelligence.
	Wait, sorry.
	What was the question?
	In your reality, rate your intelligence from zero to 200.
	From 0 to 200.
	intelligence 73 Say 73.
	73.
	73?
	Yes.
	Are you sure you don't want to revise that?
	Well, no, actually, maybe like, I don't know.
	That's a weird question.
	I guess like 100.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	I'm not saying I know everything in the world.
	I don't know.
	That was a weird question, but I'm not like.
	Well, 100 would be like the average.
	It would be like the middle.
	So you probably want to be about that.
	Okay, I can even be about 100.
	Yeah, you don't want to be 73, I promise.
	Yeah, that would not be intelligent.
	Okay.
	Anyway.
	Can you pull your mic to the edge of the table?
	Thank you.
	Um, 140, I think.
	What?
	What?
	140?
	Well, if you put it in a bell curve, like the middle would be 100, right?
	So I don't think I'm 200, but I think I'm past the middle.
	So I'm probably like a standard deviation from the middle.
	I don't know how much that would be, but I'd say 140, 150.
	Like I'm not process.
	I don't think I'm a genius.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah.
	140 is really, really high, just so you know.
	Ah, okay.
	I didn't know.
	That's like super.
	That's not that common to find 140.
	Why?
	What do you mean?
	Well, so I mean, the question is alluding to IQ.
	It's asking what you guys think your IQ is.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	So 73 is basically mentally handicapped, so I'm glad that you know.
	Well, I'm sorry, I wasn't understanding the question, and then I was like, wait, what?
	And then I answered, so my apologies.
	Yeah, yeah, no, no, no.
	I understand.
	You didn't understand the context.
	I'm not holding it against you.
	I'm just kind of outlining what the question really was about: trying to determine what you think your intelligence is.
	That was a fun.
	I like how you have all these fun little games.
	Well, I didn't send in the super chat.
	I just understood it.
	Oh, it was the super chat.
	See, I was so not paying attention that, like, I didn't even know it was a super chat.
	I thought it was like a mat.
	Oh, no.
	Did we go around on that?
	Or are we still stuck on her?
	I think we're on her.
	Yeah.
	What's the question?
	What's the rate your intelligence from zero to 200?
	I think I have a low IQ, if I'm being honest.
	I was not the brightest student in school, so yeah.
	I'd say 133.
	I'd say maybe 110.
	I would say like 115.
	I was going to say around a 130, 140.
	This is basically IQ.
	It's IQ.
	Yeah.
	I feel like I did this a while ago.
	I don't remember what my result was.
	I took an IQ test.
	I can't remember.
	I took an IQ test on a.
	I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $100.
	Who would you choose?
	10 tenths, Jason Samoa, Brad Pitt, etc.
	No ambition, lazy, fast food worker, or Donald Trump as he currently is.
	Teflon Don to sum, Trump 2024.
	Make America less stupid again.
	Who would you choose?
	10 out of 10, Jason Samoa, Brad Pitt, but no ambition, lazy, fast food worker.
	So this is basically like physically attractive guy, but no money, no status, no ambition, lazy, fast food worker, or Donald Trump as he currently is.
	Starting with you.
	There's two options, though.
	Fast food worker or Donald Trump?
	Okay, really, really hot, broke guy versus Donald Trump.
	Okay.
	Donald Trump.
	So IQ is based off common sense, so I'm guessing Donald Trump.
	Wait, you got a few more points.
	And I'm being very serious.
	Like, so serious.
	What about you?
	Neither.
	Honestly, whatever my boyfriend is, I don't care if he's rich or poor.
	Oh, my God.
	Just say that.
	That's my answer.
	Just answer the question.
	I don't care, though.
	Oh, my God.
	Wait, she understood the question.
	Wait a minute.
	Are you laughing, Brian?
	I'm sorry.
	Are we laughing at me?
	No, because I don't think she, like, to go back a little bit, I know, but I don't think she understood the question.
	Like, you know what I'm saying?
	Like, what was the question?
	What did you think the question was right now?
	We need to clarify this right now.
	So sorry.
	Actually, can you repeat that?
	No, no, no, no.
	What do you think the question was?
	No, this is.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Can you repeat the question?
	Do you want to go back to me?
	No, please repeat the question so she knows now.
	Okay.
	Really hot, attractive guy, but he's a no ambition, lazy, fast food worker, or Donald Trump to date, sleep with, whatever.
	Okay, okay, my bad.
	Donald Trump.
	Yeah.
	Same answer.
	Same answer, but it was just funny.
	I just, I'm sorry.
	You did not.
	Okay, thank you.
	Hypothetical.
	Okay, hypothetical.
	I'll go with the, I'll go with Donald Trump, I guess.
	Okay.
	Donald Trump.
	Donald Trump.
	Donald Trump all day.
	Every day.
	And on my ballot.
	Now you have to ask yourself.
	Now you have to ask yourself, if you kind of switch things up a little bit, what do men pick if you were to like take a really successful female politician versus a 10 out of 10 McDobby?
	The home girl?
	Yeah, the one that stays with her parents, doesn't know how to do her laundry.
	Well, that's not part of the.
	No, she's a bum.
	That's a bum.
	I feel like this is a bum.
	No, that's ideal, actually.
	Well, and she doesn't know how to do the laundry.
	And she doesn't know how to cook.
	She doesn't take out the trash.
	And her room is dirty.
	Let's have a look.
	No, let's.
	I want to know about that one.
	So staying with the parents is actually a pro, typically.
	But I'm talking about all the other shit.
	Well, these scenarios, no ambition, lazy fast food worker.
	Yeah, I'm taking the 10 out of 10.
	Even though she doesn't do her laundry at her parents' dolls and she can't cook versus Kamala Harris.
	Yeah, I'll take the fucking 10 out of 10 versus Hillary Clinton.
	Yeah, I'm going to take the 10 out of 10 McDonald's employee.
	She definitely wouldn't do anything if you're not going to be able to do that.
	Bro, I ain't fucking Hillary Clinton.
	Sorry.
	That's not how.
	I'll give you that.
	Yeah, like, because honestly, I can't even argue with you on that.
	Right?
	I feel like Brian, that's funny.
	The guy scenario, yeah.
	If I was going to take a look at that, Morgan, can I have you read this one?
	Don't get married if you're going to have kids.
	The wife will start brainwashing the kids against you in order to extort more money out of the husband in divorce.
	It's called parental alienation.
	The husband loses all power and leverage.
	Yeah, that shit's scary.
	And then there can even be accusations of just totally made up false accusations about misconduct on the father's part, allegations of child abuse or abuse towards the spouse, in an effort to get a more favorable ruling from the court proceeding.
	So can I have you read this one?
	Women hate this question because they hate hierarchies?
	Hierarchies.
	Hierarchy.
	It's a tough one.
	I'm dyslexic.
	It's all good.
	They mess with language and Fifies to wrestle control of masculine hierarchies.
	Logos.
	Hierarchy.
	Order.
	Henry.
	It's going to be all over Twitter.
	No, I'm actually dyslexic.
	Okay.
	They want everything with no accountability, which go nothing.
	Hierarchy.
	Hierarchies.
	Hierarchies.
	You almost got it together.
	You almost have it.
	That's.
	Sorry, Dysfall.
	Kind of, yeah, it's kind of true.
	Yes, hierarchy.
	Kind of true.
	There's something about hierarchies thatrew.
	Your thoughts on this one?
	Can you reread the question?
	No, Andrew, I am not reading this.
	I don't know if she hates this.
	Actually, I probably couldn't.
	Women hate this question because they hate hierarchies.
	They mess with the language and Fifis to wrestle control of masculine hierarchies, logos, order, and reality.
	They want everything with no accountability, which comes with hierarchies.
	This is related to the one to ten.
	I don't disagree with this at all.
	Though I've noticed that, and this is, again, it's not a monolith, so not all women are this way.
	But I've noticed that women who engage in sex work and engage in promiscuity, they generally don't want to take any accountability for that.
	So they do enormous amounts of mental gymnastics to put the blame on somebody else or to give an excuse for why they're engaged in such a horrendously immoral activity.
	Now, that's just my personal perspective, but I tend to agree with the super chatter that that would be a rejection of hierarchy in the moral order or what he calls logos, which would be the low-gee in logic, which would be the epitome of masculinity.
	So I tend to agree.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	Okay, we have two more chats here.
	We have Flan Life.
	This question has been trending on ex-Twitter recently.
	Who's the ideal woman?
	Samira Khan or Hannah Barron.
	Tweeted this out when it I asked my followers on Twitter their thoughts on it and I gave my own take.
	Samira, and we actually had this pulled up for last stream, but we didn't have time to get to it.
	My understanding, unless she's changed it in the past few hours, Samira has actually put her Twitter private so we can no longer even see the original tweets.
	I actually have it pulled up.
	Nick, if you can try looking at the Twitter, refresh it, see if she's gone off of private.
	But she was milking the shit out of this.
	I mean, she got a ton of engagement.
	That'll be a juicy little Twitter revenue check for her.
	But she was getting a lot of backlash, but she was farming engagement, and she ended up privating her Twitter because she was probably getting just absolutely dragged.
	Is it what's her name?
	Samira?
	No, no, no.
	I already have the Twitter tab.
	Oh, you do?
	Yeah.
	Okay, gotcha.
	Okay, I can see the post.
	You can see it?
	Can you pull that up really quick?
	Just pull it up.
	Hmm no, that's wait Do you want it back to Sarah Simba?
	Can you scroll it out a little bit?
	Andrew's cracking up over here.
	Here, just scroll it out a little bit.
	Let's see it.
	Scroll out?
	So the girl on the right is Hannah Barron.
	The girl on the left is Samira Khan.
	I think, so this is, the original one was linked there, but then she took it down.
	So it's just showing all the replies.
	And basically, if I recall correctly, she said something, Samira said something along the lines of this accent should be illegal.
	I don't recall, and it's depicted a video of a woman, Hannah Barron, who was giving a tour through her house, and she has a southern accent, and she's talking about construction-related things.
	And then there was another picture of her wrestling a catfish, noodling a catfish, and Samira had an issue with this.
	Oh, and she compared it.
	She compared it to literally perfect Lebanese women.
	And it was this woman, like full, like glam, full face and makeup, like in a wedding dress.
	Not really a fair comparison to even make.
	And then a lot of people were like, nah, actually, Hannah seems dope.
	She actually seems, she's more attractive.
	And unfortunately, she took the her.
	I don't know if she took the tweets down, but she's.
	Yeah, my wife was on the front lines of this thing and assisted with it blowing up, I guess, from her Twitter account.
	But yeah, this was the fight over the tomboy question over femininity.
	And it's an interesting question.
	But anyway, back to you, Brian.
	I didn't mean to cut you off.
	Just really quick, where did you guys fall on that?
	Well, I don't think.
	So if you were to look at cultural history, probably your grandmother or great-grandmother was cutting the heads off of chickens in the backyard and plucking them and then putting them on the table.
	And I think that that would be considered by this foreign Lebanese woman to be something which was degrading or anti-feminine.
	I don't consider those to be feminine qualities.
	So I don't think that what is considered a tomboy is anti-feminine at all.
	I think that this chick is just kind of a pampered princess and kind of a dunce from my perspective.
	So you're talking about Samira.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I think that this other chick, just because she's part of the southern culture and she catfishes with her hands, I don't think that that's a mark against femininity.
	That seems absurd to me.
	Yeah.
	100%.
	Yeah.
	And I mean, my initial thought to it was, and it's unfortunate that we can't pull up the original tweet.
	I think part of the reason she got Samira got a bit attacked is Samira was being a bit belligerent and aggressive in her addressing it.
	But my personal sense of it was actually, and again, I don't know anything really about Hannah Barron.
	I saw the two videos, the two videos that Samira provided, and just going off of those two videos, Hannah seemed perfectly pleasant, physically attractive.
	So I didn't really see anything glaringly like, oh my God, this is terrible.
	And so, anyways, unfortunately.
	I didn't see any marks against her femininity at all.
	She lives inside of a culture where this is common.
	And it's very common down south, especially for fathers to take their children out fishing.
	And maybe they have, you know, these different types of traditions there that aren't found generally in the northern hemisphere or the United States or the Eastern Seaboard or this type of thing.
	But it seems to me like this other chick was just coming at it from a position trying to dunk on her from a femininity angle.
	And I don't think those things have much of anything to do with femininity.
	Yeah.
	Well, Flan Life, thank you very much for the recommendation on that.
	Unfortunately, yeah, she privated her account, so we can't really see the originals.
	But yeah.
	Okay, let's see.
	Let me get into some of my pre-show notes here.
	Oh, wait, hold on.
	Oh, no, we were doing the rating one to ten thing really quick.
	Oh, okay.
	Here, I'll just end.
	So still a 10?
	Yeah.
	Still a 10.
	Okay, don't take this the wrong way.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm so glad the knock dating donated $100.
	Andrew Shakalaka.
	He's built like a Greek god.
	Kung like a rhino, rich, morally astounding.
	He takes you back to his place.
	Next to his bed, a fully loaded AR-15 with a 30-round magazine.
	Reaction?
	Go, starting with you.
	My reaction is.
	To be clear, because the question started with Andrew.
	He's not saying Andrew's built this way.
	He's saying if you were to run into a man who's built like a Greek god and he has tons of cash, but you go back to his place and he has an AR-15 or some guns, what's your response to that?
	Well, I'm from Texas and from the south, where there's tons of guns, so that really wouldn't be a deterrent.
	It would be an issue that it's next to the bed, but yeah.
	I mean, isn't that the perfect place for it?
	Yeah.
	I mean, like, just don't have it on the nightstand.
	Like, just kind of tuck it.
	Like, I don't want to look at it.
	Tuck an AR-15?
	I don't want to look at that.
	I thought you were from Texas.
	Yeah, I mean, just somewhere appropriate.
	Like, next to the bed.
	What if it's like hung up on a rock next to the bed?
	That'd be beautiful.
	Like, that's ideal to me.
	Like, literally, you step out of the way.
	Well, he's got it right on the nightstand.
	You know, that way, if he wakes up and he's alarmed, he just reaches over.
	It's right there.
	He grabs it.
	Seems like the perfect place for it.
	Great.
	Oh, scoot your mic that way if you can.
	This way?
	Yeah.
	Your answer to the question?
	The guns doesn't, like, they don't bother me.
	Okay, okay.
	Yeah, um, if my fiancé had a gun, I would feel pretty safe.
	Oh, well, you're in Australia, right?
	They totally outlawed.
	Well, you can if you get a license for it.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Um, it wouldn't bother me, to be honest.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Personally, I'd run away.
	You'd run away.
	I don't like guns.
	Interesting.
	Okay.
	Do we dive into that?
	Or here, let's come back.
	Let's let everybody answer.
	I have no problem with guns.
	I'm all for guns.
	If he doesn't have a gun, then I'm running.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Wait, so you said you're from Florida, right?
	From Jersey.
	Oh, Jersey.
	Okay.
	So why would you run?
	Like, what's the issue there for you?
	I don't know.
	I don't like guns.
	I think they're scary and violent.
	They're scary and violent.
	They're scary and violent?
	Well, the people who use them as well.
	Okay.
	So both.
	Both, both, I guess.
	So if a firearm was like sitting on the floor and nobody's around it, it's scary and violent.
	Yes.
	Why?
	No one's touching it.
	It's just in the middle of a field.
	It depends if it's like loaded or not.
	It's a loaded block 43 in the middle of a field and no one's touching it.
	Is it still violent and scary?
	I'd be more comfortable if it wasn't loaded, let's put it that way.
	But like, I guess it's not like the worst thing.
	Could you even tell the difference?
	If it was loaded or not loaded, could you even tell the difference?
	No, I was just saying if I had that background knowledge.
	So why would you mind either way?
	Because I don't like guns.
	They're scary.
	I don't like guns.
	Like, why don't you like guns?
	For a reason.
	Because they're dangerous and they have the potential to harm someone and kill.
	And if they fall into the wrong hands, it's just like a closed fist and a closed car.
	Guns are good.
	So does a.
	Never mind.
	Never mind.
	Have you ever shot a gun?
	I have not shot a gun, no.
	Okay.
	I think maybe having a little practice with one will help with somebody.
	I've been to a range.
	I've seen how they work, what they do.
	But you actually holding and manipulating.
	Okay, here's a scenario.
	Let me ask you a question.
	So you're dating the guy.
	You guys are living together.
	Let's just say you're actually married.
	You got two kids, young kids, right?
	Boy and the girl.
	Middle of the night, you hear people breaking into the house.
	It sounds like multiple people.
	Let's just say it's three people are breaking into the house.
	In that scenario, would you prefer either you or your husband's boyfriend, whatever, to have a firearm or to not have a firearm in that situation?
	I would prefer them to have a firearm, but it's like in the hands of someone that I don't know or don't trust.
	I don't like it.
	Even in the hands of someone I do know, there could be accidents.
	Like there's accidents all the time.
	All the time with like guns.
	Well, I mean, not if they're responsible, but.
	Well, okay, but so in that scenario, you would want them to a lot of people.
	So in that scenario, you would want them to own a gun.
	In a home invasion scenario, you'd feel.
	In a home invasion scenario, I guess I would prefer they own a gun.
	Okay.
	That I owned a gun?
	Yeah.
	Like if single woman, you're a gun.
	No, wait, wait, hang on.
	Did you just say yes?
	Did I say yes?
	Yeah, did you just say yes?
	I would just get a big dog.
	Yeah, I know, but did you just say yes?
	No, no, no, no.
	I would not want to operate a gun or own a gun or do anything with a gun.
	If my potential.
	So let us assume for a second that we had a crystal ball and you were able to look in the crystal ball and you knew it was 100% accurate and you knew that on such and such day that three men were going to break into your home and they were going to SA you and there was going to be no help available to you.
	Would you get some firearm training then?
	And would you get a gun then?
	I guess if I knew that was going to happen then.
	And I had no other options then yeah.
	No, but you do have other options.
	You can just not have a gun and accept the inevitable, right?
	Any other, I mean, any other options besides those two.
	Right.
	So when confronted with your personal safety, you personally, right, would opt to have the firearm rather than have your own personal autonomy violated.
	So why in the world would you deny that to other people?
	Do the invaders have a firearm?
	Yeah.
	They could.
	They do.
	Okay.
	Then yes.
	I would rather.
	Okay, now let us assume they don't.
	Are you going to use your ninja kicks to fight them off?
	Or if I don't.
	Are you going to grab a samurai sword and cut them down to size?
	I would forget what you're going to do there.
	I genuinely think this is like the reality of a lot of women in America is they're so ill-informed about firearms where they think they're scary, they're dangerous.
	I would never own one.
	But that verbiage is so dangerous because there are women like me.
	I am a firearm owner.
	I train with my firearm.
	I carry it everywhere I go.
	That is legal for me to carry my firearm.
	And, you know, I would never want to be denied the right to protect myself.
	But I also think that other women like you should be informed and should, you know, go to a shooting range and try it out because you never know what situation and scenario you may be in.
	And I just feel like in America, especially right now, one, women should be carrying firearms.
	They really should, especially law-abiding citizens.
	I think you should get your license.
	You should go do it.
	But there's a large amount of women that do kind of have that mindset of they're really scary, they're really dangerous, and I would never own a firearm.
	So I honestly would encourage anybody like if anyone wants to own a firearm or decides to own a firearm, I don't think that's like bad by all means.
	I'm saying that's a good thing.
	But I don't think I'm bad educated enough.
	I don't think we're educating.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	You want all that shit, right?
	No, I'm not educated enough to own one.
	Nickelodeon donated $100.
	Does you own a Tesla blowtorch?
	Very true.
	Nickelodeon.
	You should get it as a fire gun.
	Yeah.
	Oh, a blowtorch.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	One of these.
	No, a blowtorch.
	Flamethrower.
	They're a boring company.
	You could also, I'm told, learn Brazilian jiu-jitsu as a drink.
	Oh, God.
	A baseball bat.
	But a bat.
	See, I'm going to be a little bit more.
	I'm sorry.
	When a 200-some-pound man comes into your house and wants to do harm to you, a baseball bat will do nothing.
	What about a guard dog?
	But then they'll shoot.
	Unless it's a belt of a bunch of people.
	I'm a man dating donated $100.
	Hypothetically green dress.
	It's dwaying the Rock Johnson and you in a room.
	Only one can leave alive.
	He can't have a weapon.
	You can have a rock, slingshot, bow and arrow, or handgun.
	Your choice?
	Okay, I actually have shot a bow and arrow.
	Just answer the question, please.
	That would be actually not fun.
	Only one can leave a lot.
	Okay, I guess I would have to go with the gun at that point.
	If it's like, get to save my life.
	Right.
	I'm saying, like, I'm not educated at this point to own a gun.
	But what?
	It sounds like you need to get educated.
	I would encourage you to be educated.
	Your liberal progressive indoctrination taught you everything except that having a gun was okay.
	Yeah, true.
	And you don't want to go and do it after something has happened or potentially happened.
	Yeah, like you want to know rules of engagement.
	You want to know what I do.
	Cordon Blue.
	Andrew, do you want to read this one?
	Yeah, it's interesting.
	Andrew didn't like that Samira criticized Hannah, given that all his second wife does on Twitter.
	I'm sure the frozen meals compensate for her personality.
	So he has women cat fight on Twitter all the time.
	My wife's no exception to the rule.
	Sometimes I agree.
	Sometimes I don't agree.
	In this particular case, I do agree.
	And she was completely right.
	And the other chick was totally wrong.
	I don't know why you think that that was an own or a dunk, but she was right.
	All right, we have Stiffler here.
	Ask the girls their body count.
	New one here from Stiffler going around the table.
	Go ahead.
	Undisclosed amount.
	Undisclosed amount.
	Whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Hold on.
	Hold on here for just a sec.
	Okay.
	How many scenes have you shot?
	Because that's public available, right?
	Several, yes.
	So how many men have you had sex with publicly?
	Well, not in public, but like on camera.
	On camera, yeah.
	Several.
	Do you want to you don't know?
	Is it more than 10?
	Yes.
	More than 20?
	Yes.
	Well, now we're getting away from several, but what is several?
	How many is several to you?
	When I think of several, I think five handful.
	You ever seen that meme where it's like Matthew McConaughey, where he's like, it's like, those are rookie numbers?
	Yeah.
	Wolf of Wall Street.
	Yeah, I've seen that film.
	More than 30?
	Undisclosed.
	Well, it is disclosed publicly on Twitter and Pornhub and all those things.
	And they can go and do the math themselves and then constitute their own.
	Well, that seems rather inconvenient for the people to have to do that.
	If you could just tell them.
	Oh, God forbid I have to do a little bit of work to cast my judgment.
	Or they just don't want to watch porn.
	Okay.
	They'll never know.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so do you want to give, how about this?
	Do you want to give a range for the body count?
	Okay, above 20.
	There's your range.
	Is it above 50?
	It's above 1 million.
	Okay, you don't need to be sarcastic.
	You can just answer the question.
	I'm not going to give you an exact amount because that's my own personal preference, and that's that.
	So if someone wants to go and count all the scenes that I've done and all the men that I've had sex with on camera, they can go and do that.
	Okay.
	A relationship is like a house of a light bulb.
	It goes out.
	You replace the bulb, not the house, unless the house is lying blank.
	In that case, you burn that shit down and find a house with better bulbs.
	Faithless727.
	Hey, thank you, man.
	Appreciate your patronage.
	Appreciate the TTS.
	Sorry it didn't come through.
	If there's anything that needs to be, if there's a curse word or anything, it won't read it for some reason.
	Okay, what about you?
	I've already said all that I've had to see.
	Have you said the body count on a previous episode?
	I think you have.
	Have you?
	Not sure.
	What do you mean you're not sure?
	You would know better than me.
	No, I'm not sure.
	You don't recall?
	I don't recall.
	Is this a fucking deposition?
	Don't recall.
	You don't recall whether you.
	I really don't recall.
	Okay.
	You see one client a day on average?
	How old are you?
	You're okay.
	Don't make me do math.
	I'm gonna start doing some fucking math here.
	Okay, so next person.
	If you're a courtesan, here, I'll just do it for you.
	You're a courtesan.
	Let's just say you do see flat five clients a week.
	Okay.
	Now, do you want to correct me on that?
	Because that's the assumption I'm going to make.
	Maybe it's less, maybe it's more.
	I've already said what I had to say.
	Okay, cool.
	And I will not be disclosing any information about that.
	So we can either move on or you can make your inaccurate assumptions about me.
	Okay, I'll go ahead and make the inaccurate assumptions.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, so let's say you see five clients a week.
	How long have you been a courtesan?
	Oh, come on.
	You can answer that.
	What I've asked that I will not be answering this question.
	Oh, you, but if I had asked you to move on, right?
	If I'd asked you, well, hold on.
	You're not going to dictate the flow in terms of the show.
	So are you leaving?
	No.
	Is this a rage quit?
	Is this a rage quit?
	I've already asked that I don't want to speak about that topic.
	Okay, well, is that a kick?
	I'll leave it to the chat if that's going to be a kick.
	Chat, is that a kick?
	Is that a kick?
	Is that a kick?
	Hey, hey, hang on, hang on.
	Come back, come back.
	You don't have to go.
	We were having a good time.
	You don't have to get upset.
	Come back.
	I'm just taking a little break.
	I asked that I don't want to speak about that.
	And if we can.
	You know, you don't have to.
	Let's engage in the combo, though.
	Come on.
	Thanks.
	I appreciate that.
	Yeah, there you go.
	We'll engage in the combo.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	Now, what's your body count?
	I don't know.
	You're asking me.
	My turn?
	Me?
	Oh, I'm not answering that question.
	The chat seems mixed on it.
	You know what?
	We'll do.
	We'll do you a little grace here.
	You can stay, but you have to wear the dunce hat for 10 minutes.
	Okay, all right.
	There you go.
	It'll bring out the color of your eyes.
	Okay, go ahead.
	I'm not answering that question.
	Okay.
	Do you want to give a range?
	I'm not answering that question.
	Okay.
	All right, that's fine.
	See, I don't.
	So I'd rather not disclose that information only because my 17-year-old brother, who really looks up to me and he's watching this podcast as of right now, I'm not going to say a number.
	He's aware that you're a stripper, though.
	He is, but that doesn't mean I'm a prostitute.
	But I just would rather not.
	What?
	The body count question doesn't have anything to do with whether you're a prostitute or not.
	I just mean.
	Okay, well, I would feel really embarrassed if my brother knew that.
	I should have started.
	You got to put the cap on.
	Go ahead.
	There you go.
	What's the purpose for this hat?
	It's a dunce cap.
	Why am I going to get it?
	Put it on.
	You accepted the dunce cap.
	I don't.
	What is this hat?
	Oh, you've accepted.
	Because, look, look, we're just kind of goofing around, right?
	Nobody wants you to leave.
	We're all having a good conversation here.
	We're engaging.
	Okay, and I didn't leave.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Let me just explain.
	I'll just explain it to you.
	The dunce camp there is like, you look like you were about to rage quit.
	And so, you know, you just wear the cap.
	It's like, okay, we know that it went a little too far.
	That's all it is.
	I just respectfully got up to grab some water to excuse myself from the conversation.
	When I was in the midst of asking you questions, Brian, I don't want to speak about that topic.
	I asked politely that I do not want to answer that part.
	Everything else is a little bit more difficult.
	Okay, but then I asked, so I asked you, how long have you been involved in escorting?
	That's a separate question, which you would have probably been fine answering earlier in the conversation, but you kind of didn't want to all of a sudden.
	Are you going to put the hat on?
	You got to put the hat on.
	You accepted the hat.
	You want me to wear the hat so bad?
	Not so bad, but.
	There you go.
	Can you spin the propeller?
	No.
	You got to spin the propeller.
	You got to spin the propeller.
	Is this going to be the new thing if they refuse to answer a question, they have to wear the hat for five minutes or some shit?
	Okay.
	Refusal, refusal.
	Moving on to this.
	Is anybody going to have some fucking cajones?
	And answer the question.
	Go ahead.
	She owned it though, Brian.
	She owned it.
	Come on, spin the propeller.
	You own that shit.
	Spin the propeller.
	Please continue with the questions.
	Forget about the hat.
	Let me wear the hat for 10 minutes and then I can take it off.
	So the next person wants to wear it.
	They can wear it.
	But if I don't want to take the hat off in 10 minutes, maybe I'll just take it.
	Can somebody put like a timer for my home group right here?
	Go ahead.
	What?
	Oh my God.
	What's your body count?
	Oh, oh, undisclosed.
	Not going to answer it.
	Undisclosed.
	Where is Madison when you fucking need her?
	Oh, Miss Madison.
	She's sick.
	Same answer as always.
	I think body count is really important, even though that wasn't even the question.
	So I will not be answering because I think that's important information to share with you.
	so okay given so then given all of your refusals do you guys i assume your position must be uh no keep it on Keep it on.
	It's not been.
	Scientifist donated $99.
	How about this?
	Is your IQ higher or lower than your body count?
	That's funny.
	Me?
	My IQ is higher?
	Oh, my IQ is way higher.
	Is anybody's IQ lower than their body count?
	what's a low iq well let's just say this would be Whatever.
	You said 100.
	100?
	Obviously, it's lower than 100, yes.
	Way lower than that.
	But I still think it's embarrassing just to say the amount of men you've slept with, you know.
	Well, for me.
	Do you think the amount of men that you sleep with matters for your future relationship?
	Well, what that's for a future relationship is not for half the world to know or like publicly.
	So you said yourself that you wouldn't disclose.
	Yes.
	That's because I think it does matter.
	Okay, going around the table, does body count matter?
	No.
	How about this?
	Do you think men are insecure for caring about a woman's body count?
	Yes.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	Okay.
	Does body count matter?
	Do you think men?
	Let me repeat the question for you.
	Do you think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count?
	I think that if men care about a woman's body count, that that's their personal opinion.
	Do you think they're insecure for having that opinion?
	I don't have any other opinion other than I just feel like that's their own opinion and they're entitled to that opinion.
	So that's it.
	That's my do you think there's any scenario where a man can be insecure when it comes to his dating preferences?
	I feel like if a man can say that he doesn't like something and that he doesn't want his girlfriend.
	He's dating on the floor.
	Kindly stop.
	Go ahead.
	I said if he wants to not date a sex worker, then that's his personal preference.
	No, but the subsequent question I asked you was: is there any scenario where a man's preference can be deemed as insecure?
	Can men be insecure in any scenario?
	No, because if they're secure enough to say that they don't want their girl doing sex work or whatever, then no.
	I don't feel like that's insecurity.
	So your answer is it's not insecure if a guy prefers a woman with a low body count or cares about body count.
	No, I was saying that to your other question.
	Okay, so I'll ask the question again: is it insecure for a man to care about a woman's body count?
	And I will say again that I think that that's their personal opinion.
	Do you think their personal opinion is insecure?
	No, I don't think their personal opinion is insecure.
	I don't, that's their personal opinion, and like I respect them for what they do.
	And you have an opinion on their opinion.
	Do I have an opinion on their opinion?
	Correct.
	That's kind of.
	My opinion on their opinion is do whatever you want to do.
	Like, I'm not.
	I respect your opinion.
	Whether you don't see eye to eye in me being a sex worker and you doing your stuff, I respect you and what you believe in.
	You respect me?
	Who am I to tell you that I won't respect you because we don't see eye to eye?
	That's not the question I'm asking.
	I know, but I'm saying.
	You're saying what?
	And I keep saying the same thing, same answer to my question.
	But you're not really answering the question.
	Yes, I am.
	You're like sort of like refusing.
	You're dancing around, like you're objecting to wanting to answer in the affirmative or negative whether you would deem a man caring about a woman's body count as insecure.
	I don't deem it as insecure.
	No, but what you're saying is: oh, people are entitled to have their preferences, but do you view that preference as insecure?
	You're dancing around it.
	I don't deem it as being insecure.
	Oh, easy.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Yes, body count matters.
	Do you think it's insecure for men to care about body count?
	No.
	Okay.
	No.
	No.
	Nope.
	You said yes.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Why is it insecure?
	What I did prior to you is none of your business.
	It is my business.
	I can share that with you and what I choose to share with you.
	So I'm not going to go through and ask how many times did you have sex with your last girlfriend.
	I'm not going to go through and grill those questions because they say sometimes ignorance is bliss, and I would much rather not know how many partners my person has had because that is not relevant to today and our future together.
	Would you ask about a felony record?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Because that affects where we're going to live and what we're going to do.
	And so my body count is not going to be.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	It's none of your business what I did in the past, right?
	It's none of your business what I did.
	I'm reformed now and everything is great now, right?
	Please pen me in a corner with my words.
	What I'm saying is when it comes to the best.
	Nobody wants to peg you.
	Okay.
	No, I didn't say peg.
	I said pen.
	I'm not into pegging either, so not my forte.
	But yeah, no, I just think that it shouldn't matter.
	My body count should not matter to you.
	If you are secure and you want to see a future with me, it shouldn't matter.
	But I think my felony background shouldn't matter.
	And if you were secure and you wanted to see a future with me, you wouldn't be asking about whether or not I had any convictions in my background.
	What kind of insecure woman would ask that?
	Shouldn't you be secure?
	That affects where we're going to live.
	That affects applications.
	That affects so many.
	Well, it could affect how many ex-boyfriends you have who come out of the woodwork.
	It could affect what your past situations were, which could affect your credit score, could affect how much money you make, could affect the fact that you can't get a job because you've been in pornography.
	Could affect thousands of different things in our personal life, couldn't it?
	Oh, yeah.
	Checkmate.
	No, I'm just letting you have that.
	That's my choice to let you have that.
	Wow, dude, that's.
	I mean, you said body count doesn't matter, but we've already talked about how it does matter and how cheating, marriage, and all of those things.
	Like, I'm just wondering, how do you, given irrefutable evidence, choose to ignore and not even look at the facts?
	That doesn't matter.
	That's not going to.
	What matters is how you treat me, where you want to go in life, and those are the things that really matter at the end of the day, not how many people someone has been with.
	Exactly.
	The felony background doesn't matter.
	What matters is how you treat me, and what matters is how you're good to me.
	And what matters is our future together, not my past.
	Why would that matter?
	You can't chalk up, okay, 30 felonies with 30 bodies.
	Those are not 300 or 500 from a porn star.
	You think that that would have no effect on the life of a man at all, really?
	That doesn't seem slightly absurd to you.
	I think that a DUI background would have less effect on your life than having a porn star woman, don't you think?
	Sure.
	But you'd still want to know about that DUI, wouldn't you?
	It's important to know how it's going to affect me on paper.
	Your body count is a very important thing.
	Right, it's going to be important for me to know how it's going to affect me too, your exes, what your current status is going to be, how much of this stuff.
	Maybe little Johnny is going to come home one day and be like, hey, I saw mom and she was on the internet fucking news.
	Well, who's on first?
	Yeah.
	Go ahead and tell me who?
	The guy on first.
	Who?
	The guy playing first base.
	Who?
	The guy on first.
	Who's on first?
	What are you asking me for?
	I'm asking you.
	That's a great Abbott and Costello kid, by the way.
	But yeah, so back to this.
	I'm just curious as we dive into this.
	It seems like you want to know all about your partner's history, but they just don't have any right to know about yours.
	Isn't that seemed like quite the double?
	I can ask questions, but I'm not going to.
	I haven't asked my partner how many people have you slept with me.
	I'm going to swap your seats right over there.
	And that's my choice to not care.
	Yeah, but why would you care about his felonies, though, if all of the same people?
	It's just about the future together, right?
	That affects where we can live.
	And stuff will be a little bit different.
	So could your status as a pornography star?
	So, like, what if you had children with this guy and little Johnny comes home and he says, look, I'm getting beat up at school because he keeps showing me all these videos of mommy sucking all this dick.
	Well, you don't think that that would maybe affect our future status in relationship just a little bit?
	That is a bridge for me to cross if and when I get there.
	And that can be a hypothetical for so many people out there.
	And I'm not worried about that.
	Yeah, though that's nice.
	You're not worried about that.
	But I would guess that a man who would date you might be worried about that.
	Guy and Mary You might be worried about that, just like you would be worried about whether or not he had a felony background for the same reasons, right?
	Porn and felonies do not equal the same.
	No, no, no, no.
	Maybe in your Christianity, on paper, it does not.
	Okay, again, anything which you would consider an analogy is always going to be a comparison of two different things because nothing's ever the same as anything else.
	So, what I'm doing is I'm giving you a hypothetical based around the fact that Bonnie Miller.
	Okay, the Latina might be making terrible life choices, but my God, she's adorable.
	Ten-tenths in my book to quote the Texan.
	Would you ever date S-pilot or a controller?
	We work a lot.
	Who's the tech?
	Would you date a pilot or a controller?
	Quick, you're the Texan.
	Sure, I would.
	Okay.
	Also, can I just ask one quick follow-up here?
	You can go ahead and continue.
	Yeah, so what about credit score?
	Would you care about that?
	Anything that's going to affect us on paper needs to be discussed and dissected, for sure.
	Because whatever affects you on paper affects your material conditions, right?
	Yeah.
	Then so does your body count.
	The fact that you're a porn star, somebody could have children with you, and their children, your children, could then get beat up at school and bullied over it would definitely affect your material conditions, wouldn't it?
	Can you see any way where that would not affect your material conditions on paper?
	Yeah, okay, on paper.
	The paper part is the effect of the material conditions part.
	I understand the point that you're trying to make.
	That's such a question.
	It's such a far-fetched episode that if you have children with a man and you did pornography for years and years of your life, that kids at school are going to come to him and be like, look, here's your mom, right?
	And she's in a threesome.
	And look, watch, here's the part where she gets donkey punched.
	You think that's far-fetched?
	Really?
	You know what?
	There are several porn stars out there with children who have not had this scenario and who have also had the scenario.
	So I'm not the one to ask or entertain this question because I don't have children.
	And that's the end of the day.
	Yeah, but the point of the question was to say if you're going to get married, right, or you're going to, you know, get with somebody, I'm guessing there's a potential of children in your future.
	Okay.
	So then that would definitely be going to matter when it comes to the future of the history you have with a person, isn't it?
	But the question is about body count, not porn.
	Yeah, but even with body count, you would agree with me that the more bodies you rack up, the more likely it probably is that you have some kind of like maybe sex tape out there, something like this.
	Okay.
	Think about how many women now have OnlyFans who do porn, who have children.
	Think about like this new wave.
	We don't really know how it's going to impact the future.
	And it's becoming more and more of a norm almost.
	Do I encourage it?
	That's not my place to say anything.
	I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $100.
	Communication is foundation.
	Past, present, and future.
	My wife and I have disclosed everything.
	If she would have said it's none of your business or vice versa, we wouldn't be where we are.
	Nasty hoe.
	I love that.
	So, I mean, he makes a valid point.
	Don't you think that a relationship's foundation should be based around honesty between the man and the woman?
	Absolutely.
	Well, then, if your partner were to ask you what your body count was, why wouldn't you just be honest with you?
	Then I would tell him.
	If it really mattered to him, then I would tell him.
	Absolutely.
	Okay.
	No doubt about it.
	I wouldn't lie to him.
	I wouldn't.
	So then it wouldn't be none of his business then.
	I'm just saying, like, to the average viewer or the person, it's none of their business.
	That's all I'm saying.
	But the person that I'm going to go to.
	No, no, no.
	Now you're talking bullpost.
	Because initially you were saying, even if a partner asked you, it's none of their business.
	That's how we got on this in the first place.
	Because you said none of their concerns.
	If I was with someone and they asked me, then I would tell them.
	But I don't think it matters because the person's going to love you for you and who you are, regardless.
	But then why would you tell them?
	If he wants to know, then I will tell him.
	Because clearly it must matter.
	It might matter.
	And then that's right.
	Well, then why would you say it doesn't matter?
	To me, it doesn't.
	I don't care how many people are.
	Yeah, right.
	To you, it doesn't.
	But you see why it could matter to a man.
	It could matter to him, but it doesn't matter to the person that I'm with, and that's all I really care about.
	Is all that matters in a relationship you?
	No.
	Okay, so then when you say it doesn't matter to me, that's nice, but you could see why it would matter to him, correct?
	But it doesn't matter to him because we've actually had this conversation in the shower about two weeks ago.
	And it really didn't matter.
	Yeah, but I mean, you might not be with this guy forever.
	Who knows?
	All we have is now, and that's all I'm focused on.
	Yeah, but even assuming you were, if you were not, and we were to insert somebody else in the place who it did matter to, you could see the reasoning behind why it would matter and that it has nothing to do with insecurity, correct?
	It is insecure for you to think that just because I've had sex with five to ten men, that you are there for a year.
	Oh, is that the number?
	It's not many.
	You said it was over 20.
	Yeah, I'm just, this is all hypothetical.
	So I'm just saying.
	Yeah, yeah, so let's engage with a hypothetical.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, so if I've had sex with five to ten men and that mattered to you, then I'm not the person for you.
	Yeah, but why would that make the man insecure?
	Because you are judging me based on these past events.
	Well, no, he's not judging you because you won't tell him.
	I didn't say that.
	Right?
	You're not going to tell him.
	That's the whole point.
	You're not going to tell him.
	I didn't say I would not tell him.
	Well, then, if you were to tell him, right, why would it be insecure of him to ask?
	I'm not saying it's insecure.
	It's insecure of him to ask.
	Then if it's not insecure for him to ask, then there's no more right to stand on.
	No, I'm saying it's not insecure for him to ask.
	It's insecure for him to take that information and then therefore use it against me.
	That's why I thought the question.
	Use it against you as in not want to see you anymore?
	Correct.
	Why would that be insecure?
	Because that's like, what does that have to do with anything?
	If you've had sex with more women than I have men, but I feel like it's just against their preference.
	I feel like because they're telling you.
	Yeah, yeah, it's just, hang on, hang on.
	It's just against their preference.
	Why is that a problem if it's against their preference?
	I feel like it's because they're telling you, like, hey, like, they're like insecure about it.
	That's why.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, they're bringing that to your attention.
	What?
	You know, so I'm just not understanding.
	For me, it's more so about the intent of the question.
	You can ask and I will tell you.
	Great.
	And then we can talk about it.
	We can do whatever.
	But if you're going to, it's insecure for you to ask me that question and then use it against me.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Yeah, why would that be insecure?
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Use it against you.
	How?
	For example, let's say we're having a conversation and this is a person that is interested in you, you're interested in them, and you reveal your body count.
	And let's say your body count is 50.
	And then they say, oh, okay, well, You know, that's a deal breaker for me.
	I wish you the best, but I'm not going to pursue this relationship anymore.
	By your definition, is that using it against you?
	That wouldn't be using it against me, no.
	What?
	Would be using it against me is if you were to slander me for my past actions.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Well, now you're just shifting the goalposts here.
	Yeah, that's not slander.
	How would that be slander?
	Maybe he never tells anybody about it ever.
	If you were to slander me based on the information that I've provided you, that would be insecure.
	That's not slander.
	How did that even enter the con that has slander?
	Slander would be somebody taking your body count and going and telling a bunch of people saying that you're a bad person because of it.
	That would be slander.
	That's never been the conversation.
	You're pulling this out of nowhere.
	And so I'm saying that would be the only reason that it would be insecure for you.
	Oh my God, this is such a you're shifting.
	No, That's not, again, even then, even if I granted you that this guy went and slandered you with it, you still can't tell me how it's insecurity.
	Even if I grant the whole absurd worldview that somehow it became slander because you told him and then he went and told the whole world, how would that be him being insecure still?
	My point is this body count does not matter.
	Yeah, I know, but you know, my point is that it does.
	Can you tell me why I'm wrong?
	You are not wrong.
	You are right in your own head and in the eyes of many people.
	Do you believe there's an objective right and wrong?
	Oh, yeah.
	True enough.
	Okay, so then how can he be right and also you be right?
	We all have our own different perspectives.
	That's it.
	But like objectively, subjectively.
	Wait.
	Is it against the law to have sex with more than 20 people?
	Let me take a crack.
	I'm going to take a crack at this.
	Okay.
	So you said past shouldn't matter, doesn't matter, correct?
	Okay.
	Not okay.
	That's what you said.
	Just making sure.
	It shouldn't matter.
	Okay.
	When it comes to sexual partnerships.
	Let's talk.
	So I'll engage you there.
	Absolutely.
	I'll engage you there.
	Would you date a man who'd previously slept with 20 men?
	That'd be a tough one.
	Gotcha, bitch.
	Checkmate.
	Well, that's men.
	That's different.
	That's a conversation.
	How's it different?
	That's his sexual past.
	Oriented.
	It doesn't matter.
	Let's say he's bisexual.
	Let's say he's bisexual.
	So there's no concern over, you know, he's secretly gay.
	None of your business.
	How does it affect you on paper?
	How does it affect you on paper?
	I love the imitation of me.
	I really do.
	Okay, so you would not date a man who'd previously had sex with 20 other men.
	It would depend on how I'm feeling about him at that point and how much of that.
	But why is it even a question?
	Because your whole position this entire time has been your past is your past, none of their business, doesn't matter.
	Yeah.
	Past doesn't matter.
	But clearly his sexual past does matter.
	Okay.
	And like I said, it would depend on where I want to go.
	Okay, so that feeling that you had just now where you like, you couldn't immediately just tell me, oh, wouldn't care at all.
	No, you thought about it.
	And actually, I think the truth probably lies somewhere over you would not date or sleep with or have a relationship with a man who previously had sex with other men.
	That's how we feel about y'all fucking dudes.
	That's not how I feel that, but if you don't mind me piggybacking again, if this guy did gay pornography for a living before he decided that he was a heterosexual and he did not want to disclose this to you, how would that affect you on paper?
	He would need to be forthcoming about that.
	That's something specific.
	But how would it affect you on paper?
	That wouldn't affect me on paper.
	Oh, but I thought that what mattered was if it affected you on paper.
	At the end of the day, yeah, but like it's more like that.
	Well, then at the end of the day, he's not doing anything wrong, and you're being insecure, right?
	What?
	Because he's had sex with men.
	If my partner has a sexy sex, that doesn't affect you on paper.
	It would matter if I truly was like, like I said, my point is, is anyone who cares about you will accept you for you.
	And that is it.
	That is my whole point.
	And the body count should not matter.
	If they love you for you, your body count should not matter to the person that you are meant to be with.
	Both sexes, right?
	Doesn't matter.
	If they love you for you, there's pansexual, there's bisexual, there's transformation.
	Earlier when you said that what matters is that it affects you on paper, you must have been misspeaking, right?
	No, I'm saying that's a factor.
	That was that certain hypothetical situation.
	This is a different one.
	Oh, I see.
	So it's not really about what affects you on paper then.
	It's really just about how you feel.
	If you want your win, I will give you your win.
	Checkmate.
	Well, you can't convince me to win.
	That's not fun.
	Right?
	That's not fun.
	I already took it, but I do want the actual answers.
	I did concede.
	I'm just over it.
	I'm ready to hear other girls.
	What's the chess thing for conceding?
	It's withdrawal.
	Resign.
	She resigns.
	Yeah.
	She concedes.
	Okay.
	Last thing, if I can piggyback on something Andrew said earlier when you said something about like the on paper, right?
	Well, that's, you know, when you get your STD results, typically that's on paper.
	And somebody who's the more sexual partners you've had, the greater likelihood of having an STD.
	And also, one thing that occurred to me, Andrew brought this point up, which actually is a, it's something that's occurred to me, but I've never really argued it.
	The more past partners you've had, the greater likelihood that you've, you know, you've rolled the dice and you've landed on a fucking psycho.
	I have an anecdote that I can give.
	So I don't want to, let's say there's a girl I was dating in the past year, past year, two years, or whatever.
	And I was interested in her.
	She was interested in me.
	And very early on in the relationship, like we'd only hung out one time.
	She sends me a photo of her car totally destroyed, smashed up, all the windows broken in, just papers disheveled, everything.
	She tells me her ex-boyfriend did it.
	Now, me as a guy, I'm not interested in dating a woman.
	I don't care how attractive she is.
	I don't care how great she is as a person.
	If she has some like bullshit dude that's still in the picture who's like gonna fuck my life up, I'm not about it.
	Actually, there's another scenario kind of similar to this.
	But in any case, I don't want to date a girl who's got like dealing with like some crazy stalker ex-dude.
	And nobody.
	And the more dudes you've been sexually involved with, you're rolling the dice.
	You keep rolling the dice, then you land on a fucking crazy one.
	And then as a dude, I don't want to be in some situation where this guy's still in fucking love with you and he's violent and he's belligerent and he's got mental health issues.
	And if you're kicking it with me, he comes over to my house.
	I'm not dealing with that shit.
	And that's a very real scenario.
	And the more dudes you deal with, you could end up there.
	Yeah, you could.
	Go ahead.
	Well, I don't want to really, I don't know all the details of this, but Andrew, there's somebody who's semi kind of in the in the orbit of our community who's was dating a girl.
	Her ex was like crazy or whatever.
	He went over to their house.
	I don't know if she shot the chick, shot the dude.
	Do you know who I'm talking about, Andrew?
	What?
	I do.
	I do not.
	If you bring up the name, I might recognize it.
	I don't know the details of it.
	I don't want to say anything.
	But he is correct.
	He's just saying that purely by chance, right?
	If you were to take just a simple flu virus, the more people whose hands you shake, the more chances you're going to get the flu, right?
	You would agree that that's true?
	Sure.
	Okay, so if we agree that that's true, wouldn't this same logic also apply to relationships?
	The more people you engage in a relationship with, the more likely it is that you're going to come across a psycho.
	And that is the woman or any party's responsibility to essentially close their past before entering a new relationship.
	That is being disrespectful to your new partner for not, one, disclosing that this person is this way and not ending things.
	And so, like, that is like the person that I'm entering this relationship, that is their responsibility.
	By the way, sorry, you were referencing Hunter Avalon.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, sorry.
	And yes, yes, in that particular situation, a psychopath did show up to do horrible things to him and his then-girlfriend.
	Just, you know, like a psycho-ex.
	So, yeah, that did actually happen to a streamer.
	So, yes, it is true.
	The more people that you engage with, the more chances that this will come up.
	Here, let's move on.
	I need to get into some of my pre-show notes here from everybody.
	So, we're going to try to get through all those.
	And let's see.
	We have.
	This is a question for everybody.
	Who here considers themselves traditional?
	Starting with you.
	Go ahead.
	I have some traditional viewpoints.
	Yeah, I think in your notes here, you said you're open-minded, traditional.
	I am, yeah.
	So are you traditional?
	I'm open-minded, traditional.
	You can have more than just one viewpoint.
	But if you were to categorize yourself generally, would you categorize yourself as traditional?
	A traditional woman?
	I am a traditional woman on the inside.
	Aside from what I convey to the world and what I do for a living, my own inner values are traditional.
	Okay.
	Wait, before I have you.
	Would you determine that somebody who claimed that they were not a communist, but went to every single communist rally that there was and wore a communist uniform and wore a nice little communist hat and did nothing but speak about how much they loved communism, but then said privately to you, secretly on the inside, I'm not really a communist.
	What do you think people would think?
	Do you think people would believe them?
	You just called me or equated me to a communist.
	No, no, I'm asking you a literal.
	Not only am I not calling you a communist, I'd like to know the answer to this question.
	If somebody, all they did was talk about how great communism was and they wore a little hat and a uniform and just ran around saying communism is the greatest thing ever.
	Would you believe them that privately they just really don't like it, though?
	Internally, they're really capable of it.
	Quick, quick answer to this, please, because this is a question for everyone.
	Yeah, I'm traditional.
	Okay.
	Yeah, pretty traditional.
	Yeah.
	Besides from my occupation?
	Yes, I am.
	Sorry.
	Besides from my occupation, yes, I am.
	Yes.
	I would say I'm pretty traditional.
	Yeah.
	Traditional.
	Traditional woman.
	Okay.
	So.
	Traditional, What makes you a traditional woman?
	You guys are not traditional to be like, well, I don't know about like you three, you, you, and you, because you're engaged in sex work.
	You're not traditional woman.
	Well, I did say that I'm not looking for marriage right now or a relationship either.
	It's like you're not a traditional woman.
	With that being said, I'm not right now, but when I'm not working and stuff like that, how can you hold those traditional values but still engage in something that goes completely against what I said?
	Whenever I do end up wanting to find a husband in the future, I wouldn't be doing this at that point anymore.
	And then, would I be a traditional woman?
	Right, but currently, you can have like traditional values of what you want to be in the future.
	I understand that.
	But you're living a lifestyle now that is not portraying that at all.
	So you can't necessarily.
	And I said that when I said my answer, I said, besides my occupation, no.
	But then what makes you a traditional woman?
	I have traditional values, but I'm not dating, so I don't apply those to my everyday life.
	What are your traditional values?
	What do I believe traditional values are?
	What are your traditional values?
	I'm not applying those because I'm not looking for a woman.
	But you just said you are.
	But just in general, like you're not dating.
	You said outside of your occupation, you're a traditional woman.
	So what is a traditional woman if you had to, you know, X, Y, and Z. Like, what would I label as a traditional woman?
	Okay.
	Somebody that takes care of like the house, takes care of the kids, goes to the kids, right?
	That's what I'm labeling as a traditional woman.
	Is that what you're asking?
	Okay, so.
	Go ahead.
	Let us assume for a moment, if you don't mind, that a person came over to you and said that they were a Christian who worshiped Satan.
	Would you believe that they were a Christian?
	know you and all your little like analogies If a person came over to you and said, I'm a Christian and I worship Satan, would you believe that they were a Christian?
	I said, you and your little analogies.
	I'm not answering.
	I know what you said, so I just reasserted the question in hopes, maybe in vain, that you would actually.
	I'm not answering your question.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.
	That question doesn't reveal any.
	I can see why you objected to the body count question.
	I'm not answering it just because it's like, that's not what we're talking about.
	He's using it as a comparison.
	No, I understand that, but he's been doing that a lot.
	Yeah, I know.
	There's nothing wrong with it.
	I'm trying to test people's logic and their worldview so that I can apply whether or not they're being consistent with their own framework.
	And so what you said is that.
	I'm not beating up on it.
	I don't care about your past.
	I don't give a shit about any of that.
	All I care about is what you say.
	So what you said right now is this.
	You said, right now I'm not a traditional woman.
	I concede that that's true.
	But in the future, in the future, I want to be and can be a traditional woman then, later, right?
	Okay, got it.
	So all I'm doing is just setting the foundation to show you kind of the absurdity here.
	If a Christian came to you and said that they were a Christian or worship Satan, would you believe them?
	It's not absurdity.
	Do you see?
	Well, hang on.
	I can demonstrate to you how absurd it is.
	Just answer the question.
	No, because it's not absurdity.
	Would you, if a Christian came to you and said that they worship Satan, would you believe they were a Christian?
	It's not absurdity.
	Terry, answer, engage with his case.
	Well, let me just ask the second part then.
	Because we know the obvious here.
	If a Christian came to you and said, I'm a Christian, but I worship Satan, but later on I'm going to worship Jesus, would you believe them then?
	No clue.
	No clue.
	Are you just not going to engage in good faith with his question?
	It's a totally fair question to ask.
	And you can ask one back.
	I'm not adverse to you asking me questions back.
	Like, that's what he gave me saying.
	Okay, so this chick over here, we're going back and forth for a bunch of this.
	You think it's absurd?
	I don't think it's absurd.
	Can we agree to disagree?
	Because we're adults.
	No, exactly.
	No, I agree to disagree.
	I don't want to agree to disagree because that's like saying this.
	I think murder's great.
	You think murder's not great.
	Can we agree to disagree?
	Those are two-way, totally different things.
	Yeah, but when we're testing.
	We're talking about me being a traditional woman if I ever decide to even want to get married.
	Those are two ways.
	You're saying right now that in the future you have the potential to become a traditional woman and you could see yourself.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Right now, I know.
	Right, okay.
	It's not that hard to understand.
	Did you say you want to say something?
	Yeah, so let me correct myself.
	I do not consider myself a traditional woman as of right now.
	Wait, you just said you are.
	No, well, that's what I'm saying.
	Let me correct myself.
	But I do have those beliefs in the back of my mind.
	What traditional values do you hold on to?
	Being staying at-home mom, not wearing the pants in the relationship, cooking, cleaning.
	Doing my job for my husband.
	Is there anything stopping you?
	Like, is that finding a traditional man who wants you?
	Is that what's stopping you from being traditional?
	Well, yeah, as of right now, I feel like no man would want to date a stripper.
	You know, they're not going to want to take you seriously.
	Hold on, I've got some questions here.
	For you three, should a guy be chivalrous and should he pay for the first date and be a gentleman?
	I would say yes.
	Yes.
	I don't know.
	What do you mean you don't?
	You don't have any preference on this?
	Have you been on first dates?
	I have.
	Would you pay for first date?
	Would you feel?
	Well, Brandon didn't pay for the first date.
	I mean, he paid for the first date.
	I didn't.
	And he knew I was a stripper, so I wait into the mic.
	But have you been on other first dates with guys?
	I have.
	How many first dates have you been on?
	Like two.
	Only two?
	So with Brandon and one other guy, and that's it?
	No, two other guys.
	And they paid for the first date, but.
	Would you feel like if, okay, you're on a first date with a guy, the waiter comes, and your date's like, oh, two checks, please.
	You would be totally cool with that?
	I would be a little embarrassed, but I mean, I would.
	Why?
	Why?
	Would there be a second date if a guy did that?
	I do not know.
	What do you mean you don't know?
	I don't know.
	Well, I'm giving you a scenario.
	I don't know.
	What do you mean you don't?
	You can't say I don't know to this question.
	What do you mean you don't know?
	No, I can.
	I don't know.
	Okay, would you prefer a guy to pay for the first date?
	I won, but due to my job occupation, I don't know if it's right or wrong, you know.
	Okay, I see what you're saying.
	Yeah.
	I see what you're saying.
	I would feel like a little confused because I don't, I don't know.
	You would feel a little confused.
	Okay, wouldn't you?
	Maybe I can define this pretty easy for you.
	So traditional, if you're going to define it the most concise way that I possibly can, it would be experiments of the past which worked.
	Right?
	That would be traditional.
	Experiments of the past which worked.
	That would be like a very feminist definition of this.
	I use a biblical definition, but I'm not going to get into all that because who cares?
	None of you will.
	But experiments in the past that worked, right?
	So that's what's meant here by traditional.
	So which of those experiments of the past would you be moving towards for traditionalism?
	Repeat that one more time.
	Yeah, so experiments of the past which worked, things like maybe the nuclear family, right?
	Things like that.
	That would be a good example of experiments of the past which worked.
	Yeah, so what would you be moving towards as far as a traditional woman?
	I think I would prefer a provider, but then again, it's kind of hard if I'm still a stripper.
	Okay.
	So the reason I brought up the who should pay question is, so that's a traditional gender role, traditional gender role expectation that's placed on men.
	You're engaged in sex work, you're engaged in sex work, you're engaged in sex work, you're a stripper, escort, OF girl.
	These are not traditional things.
	What?
	Now, I actually think that you'll still get this traditional treatment from men, but why would you feel entitled or expect traditional treatment from men when you guys are not traditional women yourselves?
	That seems like a raw deal for the dude.
	Well, that's why I don't date.
	As of right now, I haven't been dating, and that's what I've said the last two podcasts as well.
	Well, you said you were dating a bit.
	Well, I think you're just saying that.
	No, I think I did say that the first one, but I haven't been.
	You said you've been on dating apps, and if I recall, one of our previous conversations, you said you actually don't disclose to some of the men you date that you're I don't tell guys that right off the bat when I hang out with them, hey, I'm an escort.
	But I also don't right off the bat sleep with guys.
	And I think that I don't need to disclose to everybody that I'm a sex worker for safety reasons for top one most important reasons.
	I think the safe thing to do would be before you even meet them, say, hey, just letting you know I do this work.
	No, because if they still want to date you.
	No, I don't, but I'm not dating to the intent of marriage.
	Doesn't matter.
	Right?
	Am I using that proper term?
	I'm not dating to date guys.
	I don't tell them.
	I don't fuck guys, and I just said 10 seconds ago that I don't, I'm not dating them and fucking them right away.
	So you've now, if I come to that point where we're comfortable enough to where I want to fuck him, then I would disclose that information.
	So every man you've slept with while doing escorting, you've disclosed in each instance that you're an escort.
	To the guys that I've been intimate with recently.
	Yes.
	No, I didn't say recently.
	I didn't say recently.
	I said, $100.
	You clearly know that your job is affecting your life.
	Money is the root of all evils.
	It's not worth it.
	Leave stripping.
	Go to school and get a job that your kid brother is going to really respect.
	If I recall correctly from your previous appearance on the podcast, you said you had sexual encounters with men without disclosing to them that you're also an escort.
	I can't recall what I said my last episode.
	If I recall correctly, I could be mistaken.
	I'm telling you right now that I don't meet guys at a bar or on dating apps or whatever.
	And for the first couple hours, I'm like, oh, yeah, hey, by the way, I'm an escort.
	Why?
	Because that's none of their business.
	For starters, for two, I'm not about to go and fuck them this same night, this week, or even this month.
	So you want to trap them into liking you.
	No, you don't want to disclose casual.
	You don't want to disclose them.
	I'm having casual friendships with men, and I'm not having sex with guys.
	I'm not dating guys right now.
	Don't you think your occupation, though, is important for even if a guy you're just casually seeing and going on dates with is an important thing for them to know, even if you're not going to be able to do that.
	Do you guys know that a lot of girls in my line of work get murdered and all types of stuff for just being sex workers?
	Here's an idea.
	So why would I just right off the bat tell a guy that I've only met for two hours, hey, I'm an escort.
	Holy fuck.
	Brian, I got a $100.
	Only a Christian can worship Satan since Satan is a construct of Christianity.
	All Christians ACK the devil.
	Laughable.
	Tmichael is my God.
	Brian, you would rather die than be a SSS.
	Ray by four Russian GIs.
	That's really sad.
	Well, no, just to respond to the super chat, that actually doesn't follow that you would have to be a Christian in order to worship Satan.
	You could worship Satan and still believe in the hierarchical authority of the heavens and not be a Christian.
	There's no reason that it necessarily follows one to the other.
	That's absurd.
	Okay, coming back to the point you just made, you said you don't disclose your work for safety reasons.
	Now, don't you think it would be safest to like just before you even meet them in person?
	Because if you look at what's happened in the past to girls like that, that's not safe.
	You don't just go to Walmart and are like, oh, yeah, by the way, I'm a freaking, I work out with my money.
	I don't just go around saying that for safety reasons, for stalker reasons, for all types of reasons.
	You don't know.
	That's why you carry it.
	The logic is not.
	No, it does make sense.
	Maybe I don't, if I'm gonna, if I plan on being intimate with this person or I plan on inviting this person into my home and stuff like that, then on that level, you're making a drastic person.
	I will let them know.
	For your own safety, you're making a massive person.
	I'm not gonna let a sacrifice.
	Let me finish.
	Stop.
	Stop.
	No.
	Let me finish.
	You're making a massive misjudgment when it comes to your safety.
	If your safety is your primary concern, I would strongly encourage you to, before a guy starts getting emotionally invested in you and you omitting and hiding.
	Hold on, stop.
	You omitting and hiding this thing that could be a major, major deal breaker for him, I would strongly encourage you to disclose before you even meet them, which would be the safest thing.
	If you just say up front before the guy has an opportunity to meet you in person, but if you like bamboozle a guy, let me hide this away from him.
	And then he builds a connection with you, I actually think you're putting yourself in much more danger.
	Are you done?
	What's with the fucking attitude?
	Because, Brian, I literally just said I'm not intending to date.
	And you keep iriterating the fact that I'm trying to date these boys that I'm meeting at the bar for an hour or two.
	Like, I'm not dating them.
	Therefore, I will not be telling you about my occupation.
	Now, as if I'm going to be dating you, I will.
	There's two differences there, but you keep trying to beat the fact that I'm about to be fucking this guy and that I need to tell him.
	Of course.
	Of course, I get it.
	But I'm not.
	I'm not dating them.
	I have a question for.
	At what point, like, for would someone in your line of occupation, what point do you believe would be the best point to tell them, in your opinion?
	Like, the same thing.
	If I'm dating them.
	If you're dating them.
	I don't know because I haven't gotten there yet.
	Myself.
	I have not gotten there yet.
	Or not for yourself, just like for you.
	On a previous podcast, I'm almost certain you said that you've had casual sexual encounters with men and did not disclose your profession as being an escort.
	Is that true or not true?
	I literally said I don't know what I said on my past.
	Forget what you said.
	What actually occurred?
	Have you had sexual, have you engaged with men sexually and not disclosed to them that you're an escort?
	No, I really don't have sex outside of my work life.
	You said recently.
	I don't really have sex outside of my work life.
	Like, for real.
	If I recall the podcast, I think you said you did, though.
	Can I add something?
	I can only talk about right now and what we're talking about.
	You don't recall previous sexual encounters?
	So, I mean, since you're on the podcast, they're going to know where your work, your line of work, is for your safety.
	So I'm just saying the public and how many viewers there are.
	So I was just kind of out there.
	They're allowed to know where I work.
	You know what I mean?
	The Moonlight Bunny Ranch is an established, legalized brothel.
	But they're going to know your line of work because you're on the podcast.
	I know.
	I've been on this podcast before.
	I was just disclosing if you were for safety purposes.
	I mean, you're on a public platform and they're just going to be aware of your life.
	I understand that, but I don't just go telling, and that's different.
	But I don't just go having face-to-face conversations with people that I meet at a hotel lobby or at a bar and be like, oh, yeah, by the way, I'm a stripper.
	Or by the way, I'm an OnlyFans girl.
	Or by the way, I'm an escort.
	Like, why would I have to say that to somebody that I know that I'm not going to go take upstairs and fuck them in my room?
	Now, if I was, that's a different story.
	I'm telling you guys that right now.
	So, Brian, you getting mad at me and getting upset with me is not kind of cool because I'm literally just telling you, like, right now.
	Seems like you're the one who's upset, to be honest.
	I'm just, I keep reiterating the fact that I'm not trying to date right now because of my line of work.
	You know what I mean?
	And then you're like, but if you're going to sleep with guys and you're going to date them, and I'm like, I'm not.
	I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $100.
	The FDA needs to get involved with these hoes.
	At least I know when I buy ground beef at Costco, I know when the expiration date is, and it's not rotten.
	Let me help you strip a hoe yes, sir, zippet.
	Oh my God.
	Look, this all stemmed from you guys all claim you're traditional.
	Like y'all know you aren't traditional.
	And I see that.
	You're not traditional.
	No offense.
	No offense taken.
	But do you.
	Okay, so you asserted you're traditional.
	I disagree with you.
	So are you.
	Living under score donated $100.
	Brian, you used to seem a lot happier than you do these days.
	Is all of this really worth it?
	This line of work would make any of us cynical.
	Not judging.
	Truth be told, actually, the conversations that actually occur at the table pale in comparison to all the bullshit behind the scenes.
	Like dealing with fucking flakes and all that shit.
	That's the stressor right there.
	Is, bro, we're dealing with like cancellations, flakes, all that shit.
	That's that for me, anyways.
	These conversations, look, sometimes it's a bit annoying.
	The shit behind the scenes, that's the stressor.
	Yeah, we're going to take in the conversations personally.
	I do have a chatter here, though, who did pull the clip from the previous episode and says, a quote, she did say that she slept with men and did not tell them, and that she also uses dating apps and doesn't tell the men she's an escort in the dating issue.
	Well, when I use the dating apps, I don't even go on dates with these guys.
	Like, I've literally been on one date with a guy and I disclosed to him that I was an escort and we didn't even sleep together.
	So, and since then, I've deleted all the dating apps and I'm not on any dating apps.
	I mean, and I've been focused and I've been the last podcast that I've been on was, I think it was in October.
	But time frame, but so since then, I've been exclusively.
	I'm looking in the past.
	So, maybe since then, you've changed shit up.
	But this fucking girl over here.
	Hold on.
	Right here.
	Oh, my God.
	This fucking girl over there.
	Okay.
	So I said you're not traditional.
	You said you're traditional.
	Are you changing your position that you're not traditional or?
	No.
	So you still consider yourself traditional.
	Oh, yeah.
	Even though that, like, your Instagram is totally immodest and you do porn, and there's probably, I've not done a deep dive on your Twitter, but I would imagine there's pornographic videos of you on Twitter, correct?
	Yeah.
	You've engaged in sex work.
	These are not really traditional things.
	So where's how do you reconcile that?
	That's, you know, like, that's kind of like a thing with your own inner battle, right?
	So for, and it's all about like you have your persona, you have what you present to the world, and then you have your core.
	My core beliefs, my core on the inside is different.
	And that's okay.
	So you hold two conflicting sets of ethics?
	No.
	Your personas are.
	Oh, well, then I'm so confused.
	So I've made peace.
	Either your inner core is that prostitution is okay or it's not okay.
	And I would say that by any retrospect, anybody would consider themselves traditional and uses traditional ethics would say prostitution was immoral, right?
	Okay, and that's that's your value.
	But that doesn't mean that I can't have my own set of traditional values and apply them in my own everyday life.
	I may not be the traditional person or the ideal traditional woman, and that's okay.
	But that doesn't mean that I can't have my own traditional values in my everyday own personal life.
	What are your own traditional values that you have in your own life?
	That's like saying a movie actor is like being a movie.
	Yes, it is.
	It is, though.
	You already know what I want to say.
	It is.
	Comparing a movie actor.
	That's like she's like, and having a script.
	Oh, she's going to be all the actors and all that.
	Like, no, all the characters and stuff like that.
	That is vastly different than engaging in pornography and saying that your inner being is different than the persona that you're doing.
	No, because it is.
	Because when you're a stripper, it's an alter ego.
	Like, but that is still you.
	You pick a different name and it runs different.
	Like it's still affecting your brain.
	That is still affecting your relationship.
	But you ought to know that it's work and how to separate the two because that's work.
	If other people.
	So to get this right, the internal you is an ethical, traditional, trad woman, but the you which is presented to the world is a prostitute.
	I'm not a prostitute.
	See that there's no conflict between the two of these whatsoever because the internalized you, your set of internal ethics is that this is bad, but your external ethics are that you're going to do it anyway because you want fucking money.
	Is that right?
	I am not a prostitute.
	I do not do prostitution.
	I didn't say you did.
	I was talking to the gallers just speaking.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay, I'll say this.
	So it's like you guys want your cake and to eat it too.
	Oh, and it's delicious.
	On one hand, you want to push your liberal, feminist, progressive equality values as far as humanly possible.
	Sex work is fine.
	Men are insecure for not wanting to date a woman who's getting blasted inside of by other men.
	Hold on.
	No modesty, no public-facing modesty at all.
	You want to sleep with a bunch of men and be promiscuous.
	On the other hand, when it comes to your, admittedly, sexist and gendered expectations of men, you may as well be 1950s bachelorettes.
	You want men to be chivalrous.
	You want them to be providers.
	You want them to be protectors, leaders, take all the initiative, pay for dates, get you flowers, open the car door, get down on one knee, spend five figures on a ring, and propose to you.
	I don't know.
	And that's just absurd.
	I don't want to get married, and you know that.
	Okay, do you want a guy to be a leader in the relationship?
	I don't want a relationship right now.
	Back to square one of what I've been saying.
	You never want to date a guy ever.
	I'm not saying ever, but right now, within the next one to two years, no, I don't.
	Okay, so you're temporarily celibate.
	Well, no, I shouldn't say that.
	You are temporarily refraining from sex.
	Engaging in relationships other than work.
	This is a dating podcast, bro.
	We're talking about dating.
	Yeah.
	So how about this?
	Instead of just like shutting down the conversation by saying, well, nothing applies to me because I'm currently, allegedly, not dating.
	I do engage a relationship.
	I'm going to donate $100.
	Shout out to my boy at Thrax Smilky.
	First time viewing this show.
	On another note, y'all are far from traditional.
	Traditinal.
	Thank you.
	That's a new one.
	Zabi Wetwet.
	It's just like men are waking up, realizing how much of a raw deal this is.
	And it's just like you got these non-traditional women that demand, that expect, that feel entitled to traditional treatment from men, and it's fucking bogus.
	But I just found it.
	I have found it.
	I have that, so it is possible.
	And I even invited him on this podcast, and you guys said you're not casting men, and you didn't care to have his perspective.
	So would you stop doing porn to continue dating him entirely?
	Absolutely.
	Why not?
	Brian, is this like traditionalist?
	Why wouldn't you guys?
	What's that?
	Is this like Schrödinger's traditionalist now?
	Is that where we've gone?
	Schrödinger's traditionalist?
	I'm not fighting to prove my stance that I am a traditional woman.
	I have my own set of traditional values.
	I have found success in a relationship with someone who provides traditional dynamics in our relationship.
	And I am happy.
	They are understanding because they are also in the industry.
	And I found that.
	He's not traditional either.
	But then why wouldn't, so he's still doing scenes.
	No, we both quit.
	You both.
	Okay, so you've stopped entirely from doing porn.
	Yep.
	To pursue a relationship together.
	See, that's beautiful.
	And I think that should, that should be how it is.
	And that was going to be my next question is, did you stop?
	Yeah.
	To be in a relationship.
	How long have y'all been together?
	It is about two months that we've made that commitment to you.
	Like, and we committed to monogamy.
	We both acknowledge how that would impact our careers.
	I have stopped accepting pro-porn scenes because I am putting this relationship above that.
	And that's my personal choice because ultimately, at the end of the day, I do have traditional values.
	And anyone in porn or in the sex work life can change and find a man of value.
	Are you guys doing OnlyFans together?
	Are you doing any scenes with you and your partner?
	We are completely monogamous, no longer sharing or doing anything.
	We've tried, so we had our initial, like we were together.
	We both acknowledged we were in the industry.
	And then we were like, hey, I don't want you cream pieing other women.
	And he was like, okay, sure, I get it.
	And I said, you know what?
	I don't want you deep thrusting inside of another woman while making out.
	That's a no for me.
	And we started putting all these like little things and things like restrictions.
	And we're like, you know what?
	No, this isn't going to work.
	That's still not enough.
	That still makes me feel a certain kind of way.
	Just beaming on this together.
	Exactly.
	And so then we were like, oh, maybe we'll share women together because I'm bisexual.
	So then we tried that.
	And then I was like, you know what?
	No, I just don't want you getting pleasure from another woman.
	I want to be the only reason you come.
	Yeah, these are just practices.
	There's nothing about them that are.
	I'm so glad I'm not dating, donated $100.
	Brian/slash/Andrew, take a vacation.
	90 acres in the mountains.
	Nice campfire.
	Plenty of guns to play with under romp in the skid steer will do your mind good.
	No infected out here in the woods.
	Talking about zombies?
	Yo, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Look, I wouldn't even have so much of an issue with it if you just claimed I'm a modern woman.
	I'm not traditional.
	I dress immodestly.
	I do sex work.
	I have OnlyFans.
	Just say you're modern.
	Was modern on the menu for my choice?
	It was not on the choices.
	What if you're not non-traditional?
	If you're not traditional, what would the opposite of that be?
	Okay.
	The question I asked is: going around the table, are you traditional?
	So that could be a yes or it could be a no.
	But when you claim, yes, I'm a traditional woman, but like we can actually point to things in your demeanor, in your behavior.
	You can look at your public.
	We should pull up their instructions.
	Well, let's ask it a different way then.
	Are you a modern woman or a traditional woman?
	I would say a modern.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Great.
	Oh my God, bro.
	We just wasting fucking 50 minutes trying to explain this shit to them.
	I have a question about traditionalism.
	So you say you have these traditional internal values.
	You're a modern woman and you're now in a monogamous relationship.
	If your future daughter came up to you and said, Hey, mom, I want to go into the porn industry.
	What would your reaction be to that?
	I would ask her, why?
	What do you want from her?
	Money.
	Okay, then I would say, why would you, what other avenues would you want to explore?
	What are the reasonings?
	Like, there's, it's, it's, um, I'm not going to say no, don't do that.
	I'm going to ask and get an understanding because if she's my daughter, then that won't be, you know, like her only option.
	She will have options.
	What was your reason for getting into the industry?
	My reason for getting into the industry was I actually went to church three times a week.
	I worked my way up the corporate ladder.
	I was five years as a business development manager.
	I've done the traditional life.
	I've done all of that.
	And it did not serve me.
	And so during 2020.
	So your traditional values are for sale.
	What do you mean?
	Well, I mean, you're saying that.
	So you expect me to describe clinging on to my values and driving.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Let me finish.
	Let me finish.
	You're saying that you were a traditional woman, but the money just wasn't right.
	So you sold out on that for modernity, right?
	So you could get that good, cool cashioli, right?
	Actually, it's not easy money, despite the public's.
	But it's a lot more money, isn't it?
	It's how much ever effort you put into it.
	Yeah, but it's a lot more money you're making than at your corporate job, huh?
	Absolutely.
	Because I'm working 10 times harder for myself.
	So, what it is, what it is, is that traditionalism for you is just a matter of price, isn't it?
	No, it's not.
	It paid you more to be able to do that.
	If you still have those values.
	Hang on, hang on.
	If it paid you more to be a traditional woman, if you're going to make a million dollars a year being a traditional woman, you'd take that buyout so fucking quick, it would give that guy wallet burn, wouldn't it?
	I have traditional values, and that is that.
	That doesn't.
	Yeah, as long as somebody can pay for them, right?
	Then you have traditional values.
	But the second, the second it don't pay very well to be traditional.
	Actually, no, I put in effort.
	I've been working since the day that I turned 14.
	My first job was on a farm.
	I have put in hard work and I got to where I wanted to be.
	And then I said, you know what?
	I'm ready to elevate it.
	I was in an industry.
	I was in the business development industry for restaurants.
	And I said, I looked at the top and I said, no, that's not what I want for myself.
	That is not the position that I want to have.
	So I'm like, if I'm going to make a transition, now is the time.
	And it was pandemic, 2020.
	Where else can I find a Kush salary job right now?
	So I started, I actually traveled and I found beautiful autonomy in all of these people from all over.
	No, they weren't all sexy.
	Oh my God.
	Who the hell can you?
	I'm sorry.
	You've talked way too much tonight.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, your guy keeps engaging me, and all of the women are.
	Just last thing on this whole traditional thing, and then I'm going to shift gears here.
	So it just seems like to me, many women have just completely abandoned and cast aside any and all of your traditional gender roles.
	Yet, with the utmost entitlement, still expect men to adhere to their traditional gender roles.
	So that's always interesting to me.
	Just really quick here, since we've clarified a little bit, modern versus traditional, just going around the table once more.
	Do you consider yourself a traditional woman?
	Modern woman.
	Traditional.
	Sorry.
	Modern.
	Wait, scoot your mic closer to you.
	Modern.
	Microphone straight.
	Go ahead.
	Modern.
	More traditional.
	Traditional.
	Okay.
	Let's pull up.
	You said traditional, traditional.
	Let's pull up your Instagrams and do a little deep dive here.
	Pull up their Instagrams.
	While he's doing that, I'm going to read a couple chats here.
	Oh, we have Jay Eken.
	Question for the panel: if you meet your ideal man and he didn't disclose that he couldn't have children, will you feel betrayed?
	Yes or no, please?
	Oh, um, yes, sure.
	Sorry, what's the question?
	You mean the one I just read?
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	If you meet a man and he said he couldn't have kids, is that a problem?
	Yes, that's a problem.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Depends what he tells me.
	Even worse.
	Even worse if it's later.
	If it's later, it's even worse.
	If he tells me like early enough on it says he didn't disclose.
	He didn't disclose it.
	Let's say a year in.
	Okay, then, yeah, no, that's not okay.
	That's a problem for me.
	Huge problem.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Jay Eken, for that question.
	Yeah.
	Let's do the Insta.
	Oh, wait, before you do, we're going to play.
	We're doing the segment here called Traditional or Not Traditional.
	So you're going to type traditional in the chat if they're traditional.
	Not traditional in the chat.
	If they're not traditional, this is going based off of their Instagrams.
	Can you do house messaging for yourself?
	Holy fuck.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Yeah, pull it up.
	All right, this is Rose's.
	This is Rose's IG.
	Little IG.
	Is she traditional?
	Scroll down.
	Scroll down, okay?
	Is it a, you know, okay.
	Is she traditional?
	Nick, can you show us the chat?
	Okay, there it is.
	Chat, what do you think?
	Pull up the chat, please.
	Traditional, not traditional party girls.
	Not traditional.
	I'm surprised by that.
	I'll say for a modern sorority college woman, this is very, very on brand.
	Would I say you're portraying a more traditional woman?
	No.
	That's fair.
	But I will say you could still hold those traditional values and like post a bikini pick.
	It's not the end of the world.
	Yeah, it's not.
	It's not egregious or anything, but I don't think it would easily fall into the traditional category.
	Yeah, I'm not.
	But Aangon, Aangon, are you just saying that because you do that, though?
	No, you can pull up my Instagram.
	Oh, should we pull up Morgan's Instagram?
	Why not?
	Why not?
	This is Morgan McMichael's Instagram.
	Okay, there you go.
	Oh, there she is on the whatever podcast.
	Look at that.
	Okay, here's her Instagram.
	All right.
	There she is on Timcast.
	Does white privilege exist?
	That's a great question we should get into.
	All right.
	Oh, there's our friend Candace Owens.
	Okay.
	All right.
	There's a cupcake.
	There she is on the whatever podcast again.
	Taxation is theft.
	Okay.
	I think that's pretty traditional.
	Compared to yours, yes, I would say that yours would be more traditional.
	Yes.
	But that's also the life that I'm living, and that is who I am.
	That's the person.
	Yeah.
	Way more trad, I suppose.
	Traditional, definitely trad, trad.
	No, fake trad.
	Fake.
	Not very trad, trad.
	Okay, okay, there you go.
	All right.
	I'll take it.
	Ma is traditional.
	Okay.
	Some poggers in the chat.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That's cool.
	Cool, cool.
	All right.
	Who else?
	Oh, we're going to pull hers up.
	Okay.
	Megs?
	Megs, right?
	All right.
	Is she traditional?
	All right.
	You're going to have to scroll down a bit, I think.
	Scroll down.
	Scroll down.
	What?
	Sorry?
	I saw one that said, How I feel healed from feminism.
	Okay, slow it down.
	Keep scrolling.
	Okay, cute dog.
	Oh, scroll down.
	This competition, please.
	Oh, my gosh.
	And then, okay, some bikini booty pig.
	Yeah, I was in a buddy.
	I was in a bikini food movie.
	Okay.
	Scroll down, just scroll down.
	All right, there it is.
	Traditional or not traditional?
	Traditional or not traditional?
	Traditional.
	This is for the chat or not.
	Nar.
	Not traditional.
	That was terrible.
	Sorry.
	The chat has voted.
	I'm sorry.
	They're saying not.
	Do you want to rebel?
	I got the big no over on this side, too.
	Just so you know, they're going off Brian's rules over a year or two.
	That's like fine.
	Yeah.
	I'm cool.
	No, but you're Aangon.
	To be fair back, it did look like you're in a competition, bikini competition, so some form of like bodybuilding?
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's what it was.
	Okay.
	Well, not all the folks.
	And that's pretty common.
	Like part of that is dehydration, and then you have to go do the whole thing, right?
	Whoa, is that the best thing?
	Like you have to dehydrate your body.
	What's that?
	Is Andrew Knighting?
	But there's other photos.
	Did you see the other photos?
	No, well, so I know bodybuilders, I'm just saying bodybuilders have different rules because the focus of that sport is the body.
	So I would be willing to make more allowances there because the focus of the sport itself is the body.
	So I at least understand that.
	I'm not sure that that's the same as trying to be sexually provocative.
	I'm not sure I categorize them the same way.
	Wait, do we pull up your Instagram too, right?
	Let's pull up her Instagram.
	What's the name of what's your name of Instagram?
	Your username?
	Pretty evil thing.
	Pretty evil thing.
	Are you evil?
	Sometimes, yeah, I can be.
	Whoa, okay.
	Bear in mind, scroll down.
	Scroll down.
	Okay, I don't think we need a vote here.
	That's just you did originally say you were traditional.
	Just, you know.
	Here, Morgan.
	You changed it, right?
	Morgan, I'm going to have you read some of these.
	This one, too?
	Guy treating you very nicely like a goddess, even you don't know, because it doesn't matter that the guy is the reincarnation of Jack the Ripper.
	He treated those women just the same as you.
	Oh, well.
	Killer of serial killers.
	That came in a little while ago, so it's probably related to something we were talking about a bit ago.
	We also have Killa, though.
	Thank you for the Streamlabs.
	And then we have Lulu Lu.
	Thank you.
	I'm a serial killer, but don't worry, that's my alter ego doing the crimes.
	My core is innocent.
	Don't hold me accountable.
	Jail my alter ego.
	These corn girls have adopted bizarro thinking to live with themselves.
	What matters, though, is that on the inside, they've never hurt anybody, right?
	That's the main thing.
	That's what really matters.
	You know, even though, I mean, by the way, excellent super chat, but it's just pointing out the conflict in ethics.
	That's the whole point, saying that you are still you doing the thing that you are doing, regardless of how you feel internally, regardless of the degrees of mental separation you try to put yourself in, you're still doing those things.
	And regardless of what you may think, but we're not hurting people.
	Like, oh, God, you just there's a lot of people out there that thank us for what we do, and we've actually helped a lot of people doing what we do.
	Doing the Lord's work.
	Some people have disabilities.
	Some people have problems.
	She's a charitable prostitute.
	Okay.
	What do you know about it?
	You guys don't know the issues that people come in to the brothels having on an everyday day-to-day basis.
	Let us assume that you assist many people who are disabled.
	It's true.
	You don't know.
	Yeah, I know.
	I know.
	I don't.
	So let us assume for a second that you are assisting many people who have disabilities.
	Are you at least assisting some who don't?
	Yes, but I want to say a lot of the times the guys that come in there do have issues.
	Certain issues.
	Yeah, I know.
	So you assist some people who have some disabilities, we get it, and then the rest of them don't, right?
	So that's the point.
	Why are you looking at me?
	I'm not going to save you.
	No, because you guys are like saying that some guys have disabilities like Asperger's and that don't know how to like treat a woman or how to be with a woman that want that experience.
	There was a guy the other day that brought his son in because he was like, hey, my son is 40 years old.
	He's never been able to interact with a woman like.
	Oh, yeah.
	And this is all out of the goodness of your heart.
	If they brought in their son with Asperger's syndrome, would you have sex with them if they didn't pay you?
	That's my job as a legal curriculum.
	That's right.
	So you're not, this is not some charity.
	Come on.
	Yeah, but it's not charitable.
	You're not charitably helping the kid with Asperger's.
	It's a legal Asperger.
	It's the only state where it's legal.
	I gotta ask you this.
	I gotta ask you this.
	Wait, wait, Do you want to interrupt me?
	Yeah, I can do that because I'm the host.
	Okay.
	And don't expect me to finish my sentences, Brian.
	Have you ever done any pro bono work?
	What?
	That's a fair, that's a fair question.
	Brian, you'd be interrupting me, and then he was interrupting me.
	That's a fair.
	I'm curious.
	That's a fair question.
	But you guys were both interrupting me right now.
	You've interrupted me.
	You guys have been both interrupting me.
	You've interrupted a bunch, whatever.
	Just have you.
	I'm asking a question.
	Let's move on, Brian.
	Have you ever done any pro bono work?
	Brian, I beg your pardon.
	I'm so sorry.
	But I actually have to go to work.
	What do you mean you have to go to work?
	Yeah, I have to go.
	I'm scheduled.
	What do you mean?
	I'm scheduled tonight.
	You didn't tell us this before.
	We asked if you could stay for the whole show.
	Like, what's your name?
	Bro, Nick's, you're talking to me right now.
	What's up?
	So, whatever I left, I don't know if I'm allowed to say, but whatever I left, you can keep, but I have to go to work.
	Like, you have to?
	Yeah, I was scheduled at 9.
	Oh, you're already late.
	I know.
	Just be later.
	It's fine.
	No, no, no.
	I cannot be more late.
	Don't you work for yourself?
	Or how does that work?
	I don't know.
	We're still doing the show.
	I know.
	All right.
	I mean, we got to take you out of the description, but okay.
	All right.
	That's fine.
	Okay.
	Well, thank you for coming.
	Or I guess I could try to hit your notes really quick.
	Let me see if there's any notes that we had for you.
	No, no, no.
	It's okay.
	Hold up.
	Well, you said.
	Well, you should at least stay.
	I got notes here for you.
	No, wait, Brian.
	I don't even have a mess around We'll make him quick We'll make them quick.
	You want to at least just.
	I have one, I think, one note here for you.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Okay.
	Just, you want to just engage?
	I mean, we kind of already touched on it, but you mentioned in your pre-show notes here.
	You said, I don't even have a mask.
	Oh, okay.
	You said primarily that you don't have a serious dating life as of right now.
	Yes, I'm a stripper, but I love a dominant man, and I'm very submissive to men and don't support feminism.
	I guess you can say I'm old school.
	Yeah.
	You consider yourself like Latina traditional, old school?
	So we already touched base on the traditional.
	Are you talking about like a fucking slit?
	I'm not sure what it was.
	Okay.
	God fucking damn it.
	Huh?
	So you described yourself as like old school, Latina, traditional?
	Just the household I grew up in, which is my dad wearing the pants in the relationship and not my mother, you know?
	Okay.
	All right.
	Do your parents know that you're a stripper?
	They do.
	How does your dad feel about that?
	Um, my dad, he doesn't care.
	Your dad doesn't care at all?
	No, he doesn't care.
	Like he's does he support you?
	Like, how is that dynamic?
	Well, he hasn't been in my life, so he can't really say about that.
	Oh, I can't hear him.
	No, you're good.
	There was nothing on stream, Brian.
	Yeah, yeah, no, it's just all right.
	So, yeah, okay.
	See ya.
	Thank you for having me on the show.
	Appreciate it.
	All right.
	Bye.
	You can take her seat, I guess.
	What's up?
	What's going on back there, Nick?
	You said I can take her seat?
	No, he's going to take her seat.
	And then.
	Okay.
	We were reading chats or.
	All right.
	I'll just have you read this one if you can, please.
	I'll make it easy for Susie J. Rottencrutch, USMC, for 10 years, traveled the world and slept with over 30 women.
	I knew it was immoral, and I did it anyways.
	If a girl cares, I have no argument.
	Respect.
	Okay.
	All right, we have another one coming in.
	Does men caring about body count make them insecure?
	Maybe not all men, myself included, ever consider half the things Brian says why it matters for him.
	They could worry how they stack versus others.
	There you go.
	Same thing.
	You ever consider half the things Brian says why it matters for him.
	They could worry how they stack.
	Wait, so is he in favor of my position on body count?
	Brian needs to change his tone.
	But he might still agree with me, despite his criticisms of my tone.
	Not a man myself ever considered half the things Brian says why it matters for him.
	They could worry how they stack versus others.
	So are you saying I care?
	I'm making that I care about how I stack up versus their previous partners, or is that your position?
	Brian needs to change that.
	So he's saying that they should worry about how it stacks up against people who aren't you.
	That's his point.
	Oh.
	Wait.
	They could worry about how they.
	Wait, can you explain that?
	I don't even, I still don't.
	Yeah, so he's saying, he's saying these are just your preferences, Brian.
	Not all of us believe that.
	That's what he's saying, basically.
	Right.
	And that's what I was going back to saying that we can agree to disagree.
	Not everybody has the same beliefs.
	I'm firm in that.
	I know that you're firm in that.
	I refuse to agree.
	But we can be adults sometimes.
	And no, I'm a petulant child who refuses to change his opinion on things.
	Look.
	But we still need to treat each other with respect, though.
	Okay, when it comes to the body count thing, unless the guy's a cuck, there's no sane man who ever thinks, I really wish this girl I'm dating or my girlfriend or my wife, I really wish she slept with more men before she met me.
	No, that thought never crosses a sane man's mind.
	So what's your body count?
	How is that at all relevant to the conversation?
	Well, I was just wanting to know because you asked everybody theirs.
	I just wanted to know yours.
	Well, it's convenient that you, it's kind of funny that you're asking me that question when you yourself and every single person.
	If you don't want to answer, that's fine.
	I'm not going to pressure you, but I was just going to say that.
	It's just funny that you're.
	Well, I'm not going to answer, but it's just funny that you're asking when everyone here refused, including yourself, to answer that question.
	And I was just asking, and you have the right to refuse, and that's optional.
	Cool.
	But do you think there are guys out there, like with their head on their shoulders properly, that are thinking, I really wish this girl who I'm talking to slept with more men?
	I don't think that's what I'm saying.
	In what world is that ever the case?
	There's not going to be 100% of guys that agree with you, though.
	But I do think that's the thing.
	And those guys who disagree with me are cucks.
	And that's your opinion on that.
	It's not an opinion.
	But I believe that if they don't have an issue with them, then that's a personal opinion to themselves.
	And if they personally don't, if they can get past that and be like, okay, she did XYZ before we were together, that's their opinion.
	And now let's go back to where we were saying, hey, I don't like that, blah, blah, blah.
	That doesn't make them insecure because they're telling us that they don't like that, right?
	So how would that make them a cuck if they're accepting somebody as who they are for what they are?
	You know what I mean?
	A man who is desirous of dating a woman who has slept with a fuck ton of men, I think you're getting into cuck territory there.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, even with the official definition, if you have a man who you're dating and you're engaged in prostitution, then he would be allowing his significant other to sleep with other men.
	That would be cuckoldry.
	Definitionally cuckletry.
	I'm not going to save you.
	Why are you looking at me?
	I'm not looking.
	I'm just saying, like.
	I have a question.
	Can I ask a question?
	Sorry.
	Go ahead, go ahead.
	Do any of the men that you see, do you think they feel loved by you?
	Like, really loved?
	Or just physically?
	Like the guy?
	Yeah.
	How do you think they feel?
	I have, like.
	Do you think they think that you love them?
	They know that I care for them and that I have love for them.
	My regulars.
	Okay.
	I'm just curious.
	I don't know.
	I didn't really have any way to go with that.
	I was just wondering what you thought.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We got some more chats here.
	Oh, no.
	You build a relationship with people.
	Morgan, if you're able to read these things.
	Yeah.
	Millions of views from a majority of men on these.
	Those men who, quote, don't need to know about your line of work are currently learning about your line of work and can now recognize your face.
	Hello.
	Yes, that's fine.
	Like I said before, I'm not just going to sit down and be like the first thing that pops out of my mouth is I'm not going to tell them that I'm an escort or that I do OnlyVans or that I strip.
	That's not what people do when they sit down and have casual conversations with casual people that I don't plan or intend on dating or fucking.
	Do we all got that now?
	Or because I've repeated that several times.
	Thank you, Kyle Kelsey, for the super chat.
	These three spicy workers are annoying.
	I'd rather listen to Mud Duck out of the desert calling us in the window like her.
	I didn't want to read that one.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Thank you, Kyle Kelsey.
	And then we have this one.
	Oh, hold on.
	Living on this co-donated $100.
	Brian, don't look up.
	Dora the Explorer grew up when she's a 304.
	Yeah, alpha change.
	I don't get it.
	Alpha change.
	Thank you, Living.
	Appreciate it.
	All right, we have this one.
	Swiper is indeed doing some swiping.
	That's what's happening.
	All right, we have Nika Nikolovich Miggs.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate the super chat.
	From the one true book, for an adulterous woman is a deep pit and a wayward wife is a narrow well.
	Like a bandit, she lies in the weight and multiplies the unfaithful among men.
	Ask the girls if their grandmother knew what they were doing.
	How do they think that they would feel?
	I was actually going to ask that.
	Like, do your parents both know what you guys are doing?
	My family knows, yeah.
	Yes.
	I said that.
	Are they cool with it?
	Before.
	Yeah.
	My dad was actually the first one to find out, and he was like, I may not always agree with what you do, but I will support you.
	My dad commends me for all my hard work that I put in with myself and my business.
	Were both of your fathers involved in your life growing up?
	What are you saying?
	Were both of your fathers involved in your life growing up?
	Yes.
	My dad and my mom are still together.
	Andrew, I see you shaking your head there.
	Do you have anything to do with that?
	You know, if your dad didn't know, right, or he was unapproving after he did know, I guess I can understand that, but from my perspective, my opinion, right, a father who would approve of their children doing sex work is a fucking scumbag himself.
	They've been an absolute horrible piece of shit.
	Who deserves at least at the very, at the very least, a bit of a talking to.
	That's unfathomable to me.
	That we're grown adults, that's even possible yeah, but that doesn't mean he has to be approving.
	In fact he, because you're grown adults, he should be even less approving.
	He should be like anything.
	It's not like he sits there and he's 100 on board.
	He's not 100 on board with it.
	Well no, but he does.
	He does commend me for my hard work and all the stuff that I put into my career and my business.
	He sees everything that i've gotten from my business and he sees how far it's.
	Taken me, and this is just a stepping stone.
	This is not what i'm going to be doing forever, and he knows that I under, I understand, and he understands that part and he knows that part too.
	Don't you think it's the right of a father to be?
	But let me ask you a question.
	If, if you came to your, if you went to your dad and you said dad, i'd make a lot less money transitioning from my role as a actual prostitute, do you think that your dad would have the preference that you did that?
	If I transitioned to a prostitute, to something else yeah, what would he prefer?
	That you did that, that you stopped being a prostitute?
	Oh, of course, certainly yeah.
	Well then, it doesn't sound like he's very approving at all, but he is.
	He still loves me.
	He didn't disown me like Brian said, he would disown his own you and he's told me that he's proud of me, approving of what you're doing.
	He's proud of me and he commends me for what i'm doing, and he's not mad or angry at the fact that i'm doing it.
	Wait, he's proud that you engage in prostitution.
	Really, he's proud of me for coming this far.
	He sees the success that it's brought in me, the things that i've achieved, making this types of money, the freedom that it's provided me.
	Then why would he want you to transition away from it if he had the option?
	Because, just like you said, no dad really wants their daughter doing that, but he is proud of what i've accomplished throughout this.
	I mean, I think he could see.
	Well, I don't understand, that's conflicting.
	Again, how could he be proud of everything that you've accomplished and unapproving at the same time and wish you did anything else?
	I don't get that.
	Morgan had something, then we're gonna move on, go ahead.
	I was just gonna say that it honestly makes me sad personally, just because like, I know how difficult the sex work industry is and I see how a lot of women are abused or just taken advantage of in the industry and you know, when you just look at parents being involved in a woman's life, it's just super important.
	And I do think that uh to Andrew's point that you know your dad's, the a A father's number one role is to protect their daughter and to want the best for their daughter.
	And I don't see how it's possible.
	Like, yes, your dad could support you and be like, you know, I'm proud of you for making all this money.
	But deep down, they're always going to feel like, you know, not necessarily proud of your being involved in sex work.
	And I know that's difficult, but it's like, how as your father's daughter be okay with, you know, doing that.
	And it's not like he's expressed, yeah, of course they get worried, like this and that and the other.
	But at the end of the day, they're my parents and I'm an adult.
	So if I'm going to choose to go down this path, then that's up to me.
	They're not going to sit there and drag me by my hair and tell me not to do it.
	They've, of course, expressed that they want me to do other things.
	And they know that I'm currently working on doing that.
	So this is just a stepping stone, like I said.
	It's not something that I'm going to be doing forever.
	What would it take for you to leave?
	I'm doing this by choice right now.
	And I have a plan.
	So until that's accomplished.
	Last thing I really want to do.
	It would just take money, right?
	It would just take money.
	Money would get you to leave.
	Somebody gave you enough money, you would just leave it tomorrow, right?
	I'm really young right now, and I have a plan already set up.
	So that's all I'm saying.
	Yeah, I know.
	But she asked, what would it take for you to leave?
	The answer is just money, right?
	Money wouldn't.
	No, once I accomplish my goals that I have set, that is when I'll be ready.
	And are those goals money related?
	Those goals, I have a variety of different plans, but to achieve those goals, I do need money.
	Yeah, right.
	So it's just money.
	So tomorrow, if somebody walked up to you and said, hey, I don't want you to be working in a legal brothel anymore.
	Here is a $5 million check.
	Would you take it and leave?
	Sure.
	Yes.
	I just, it saddens me knowing that women are having to sell their bodies to men just for money.
	But the thing is, is that like I appreciate and I love my job.
	I genuinely do like connecting with people on a deeper level.
	Being able to help somebody that has different problems that they can't express to their significant other or that have a hard time doing things by themselves for me to be able to help them, like, yeah.
	Would you do your job for free?
	I'm not doing my job for free.
	Would you do another job that made the exact same amount of money that you're making now, if not more, but it wasn't sex work?
	Would you take that?
	Yeah.
	Wait, you said significant other people with like partners come to you, like to the brothel?
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	All right, that's a whole nother fucking thing.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Brian needs to change his tone.
	Way not to change your tone, Brian.
	A man absolutely could be insecure by body counts.
	He could be insecure that he won't be able to please his woman as her ex did.
	Brian, I bet you hear that a lot.
	That's actually a good point.
	I see what you're saying.
	And actually, it does raise the question of, well, let's say this individual man is insecure.
	So what?
	So what if he's insecure?
	For example, I've written some notes here because I've been waiting to get to that super chat.
	Hold on.
	Yeah, you know, for example, I am insecure.
	I'm sorry.
	About catching herpes.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	You know, I'm insecure about, you know, About the greater likelihood of divorce, the greater likelihood of infidelity.
	I'm very insecure about these things.
	I'm insecure about my, you know, there's a whole bunch of things I could be insecure about.
	So I'm insecure.
	Got me.
	You've got me.
	You've got me.
	I'm insecure.
	I'm very insecure about all these things.
	Yeah, but he doesn't have you, though, because this question doesn't really make any sense.
	He says it could be possible that men could be insecure about it.
	Yeah, that's true, but that doesn't mean that they are.
	So just as your criticism towards Brian is some could be, the criticism back is, yeah, but many also may not be.
	So when a woman says men are insecure if X, they're putting it in a monolith and saying all of them are.
	Yeah.
	True.
	What?
	It's just like the back and forth thing.
	Like that's exactly like what we've been trying to tell you with different things, the back and forth thing.
	Cool.
	Okay.
	Richie, thank you, man.
	The charity liquor has 1500 plus body count and a 15 IQ.
	She can't answer a simple question and loves to announce the bunny ranch inviting potential psychos.
	Do you want to respond to that?
	Come see me at the world's famous Moonlight Bunny Ranch.
	Oh, whoops, that's weird.
	Okay.
	All right, let's get.
	I need to get through the pre-show notes here.
	So, did her, oh gosh, okay.
	Let's get Meg in here.
	Meg.
	All right.
	So you said that you're in your bio, helping women uncover the most feminine selves, attract true love, and get the ring.
	I think that was in your Instagram bio.
	Do we still have that pulled up?
	Or Meg's Instagram.
	I don't know if it was changed recently, but you are engaged.
	Can you do a little Beyoncé?
	There it is, helping women get the ring, get the marriage, etc.
	Do you want to do a little Beyoncé?
	What?
	Showing the engagement ring.
	Boom.
	There it is.
	Boom.
	And okay, so you're engaged.
	That's good.
	You had a lot of notes here.
	I know we're just getting to you now, so strap in, fellas.
	Okay, so you said how men's body count is not a proxy for their value as a man.
	I agree with you on that.
	Basically, I think your position is that a man doesn't gain value the more sexual partners he's had.
	Is that your position?
	Yes.
	I think if he's had a lot of sexual partners, like a lot, an excessive amount, it couldn't just mean that he's really good at discarding women, which isn't really what a traditional woman is looking for.
	It does occur to me, though, that a man who's slept with a lot of women is probably going to just sort of generally, in order to do that, you're going to be generally attractive to women.
	Whereas I can't really say the reverse of women.
	It doesn't really mean he can, it's not showing that he can keep a woman.
	Yeah, sure.
	But we could argue that any woman, for example, could have a high body count.
	I think any woman could be a slut if she wanted to.
	Whereas I would argue very few men could be a slut.
	Yeah.
	Why are you looking at me that way?
	Why would you argue that?
	Like, why would you think that men would be less slutty than females?
	Well, okay.
	Capacity.
	So any woman, regardless, she wants to argue with me on everything.
	Hold on, let me just, I'll make my argument and you can counter it if you'd like.
	So any women, woman, excuse me, regardless of her physical appearance, she could be obese, she could be unattractive, she could even have a bad personality.
	She could very easily just get sex if she wanted to.
	Yes, she could.
	Would argue if you take that male counterpart, obese, terrible personality, there's no world where he can be a slut.
	Yes, that's he can't be a slut.
	Yes.
	So very few men have the capacity to be a slut.
	Some people prefer the stud thing, but I feel like that opens my argument up to attack.
	So it's just much easier to say slut and slut.
	So any woman can be a slut.
	Very few men can be a slut.
	That's correct.
	It's natural selection.
	Women, like men, are trying to have sex.
	Women are looking for sexual exclusivity.
	That's it.
	So it's supposed to be hard for you guys to get laid.
	Yeah, but in all cases, it's not.
	Right, but in general.
	But there's a lot of guys.
	In general, yes, there's players out there that run through chicks and really hot dudes or guys with status, whatever it may be.
	Yes, of course.
	They can be promiscuous and sleep with a lot of women.
	But my position on this is: is an average woman has the equivalent sexual pull as basically like an A-list male celebrity.
	Like, you guys don't realize the degree of sexual power that you have.
	I do.
	I think most women understand this.
	Like, she can make it.
	Well, she's trying to argue that any guy could be a slut.
	And I'm saying, no, for a guy to be on the to for a guy to be able to procure sex to the same degree that just an average woman off the street can, he must be like A-list celebrity, professional athlete, top musician in the famous band.
	Yeah, that's how it is.
	Like the best man gets the best woman.
	The jock gets the cheerleader.
	That's how it works.
	But she's trying to argue that like the average guy has that amount of sexual optionality, which just isn't true.
	What's your opinion?
	From this girl?
	She wants to disagree, but I don't know.
	Why are you looking at me that way, bro?
	What the fuck?
	Chill.
	Relax, bro.
	Okay, going back to Megs.
	Let's see.
	Oh, we had something.
	Hmm.
	There's a lot.
	Okay, let's start with the disagreements, then I'll go back up.
	Okay, so you disagreed.
	You said that women shouldn't be drafted.
	The purpose of war, the purpose of war, is to protect women and children.
	Is that correct?
	That's what I said.
	Yeah.
	So the you don't think the purpose of war here.
	Let me hear your argument.
	So you said the purpose of war is to protect women and children.
	Yeah.
	Okay, how?
	Why?
	Well, war occurs because men are trying to get more territory.
	Correct?
	So that's the purpose of war.
	Well, they want to get more territory, more women, more better access to women.
	That's basically what that is.
	That's why people go to war?
	No.
	Why do you think they go to war?
	I mean, I agree somewhat with your first one, which is, you know, it could be a territorial dispute.
	Killer of cereal donated $100 isn't the end goal to climax.
	That's a solely transactional relationship, regardless of how deep conversations get.
	The chemistry you feel is always left with cash in hand.
	That's not true connection.
	Killer of cereal.
	Which cereal are you killing, dude?
	Are you a frosted flakes type of person?
	Are you a fruit pebbles?
	Is that a fuck?
	I haven't eaten.
	I feel like this was a throwback to the earlier serial killer comment.
	Ah, I see.
	Okay.
	Was it directed?
	Isn't that golden?
	Okay.
	Purpose of war.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	You were explaining?
	It's to get access to women.
	Men want it.
	The purpose of war is to get access to.
	I don't know.
	Why do men want anything?
	Why do men want money?
	Why do men want land?
	They want it for their children and their wife.
	No, that's not true.
	I mean, it's half true, but it's not true.
	For men, status among other men is also highly important.
	It's not always just to attract a mate.
	Men, unlike women, will accept power for just power's sake without wanting to attract a mate at all.
	Do you think that's like the most popular, like the generally the majority of men want power just because well, the majority of men don't start wars.
	The majority of men just fight them.
	So if you're talking about the lower echelon of soldiers who are fighting for king and country, sure, they can be propagandized into believing that's to save their holdings and their families and their wives and their children.
	But if you look at the hierarchical power structure, no.
	I think that power for the sake of power for elitists is just as much of a motivation as attracting a mate.
	I don't think they give a shit.
	Why do these men follow and just do what they're told?
	Well, I just told you through propaganda.
	So it's easy.
	It's easy to utilize.
	Yeah, but I already explained the echelon threshold.
	So I think that draftees and lower form soldiers can be propagandized into believing that they are.
	I'm asking a psychological question.
	No, your question is, why do the men follow the orders?
	So in the case of if they're already in the military or if they're drafted, if they don't follow orders, they get court-martialed and they get sent to a military prison or they get killed.
	That's why they follow orders.
	I'm not saying that it's not, you know, it's sad.
	I don't think, I'm not saying that it's like not awful that war isn't terrible.
	What's the psychological question?
	I'm making kind of a larger point, and I can't get that because I get sort of...
	I can't hear you very well.
	I'm trying to make a larger point, but I keep getting kind of sidetracked a little bit with little side quests.
	Okay, just not related.
	Make your point.
	Okay.
	So the question is, why?
	So I asked, do the majority of men, like, if you took a survey of men, do you want to go to war for, like, power or for, like, to protect women and children?
	Like, why would...
	Well, so in this case, would you agree with me that most men who go to war are very young and so do not have families?
	Would you agree that that's true?
	I don't know the data on that.
	Yeah, but let's assume for a second they're very young, so they probably don't.
	Okay.
	Yeah, so if that is true, that most wars are fought by young men without families, then they're not protecting their families, right?
	So they must have some alternative motivation.
	What would you think that that might be?
	To have family in the future.
	Right, so it's for status, right?
	I guess status is appealing to women.
	Yeah, status.
	It's for status.
	It could be for money, it could be for patriotism, this and that.
	The primary motivation is not always to attract a mate, though.
	That's my point.
	I agree that some men just want power for power.
	Power's sake, sure.
	Yeah, but I'm talking about now the lower echelon in the hierarchy.
	I think that also they are not fighting wars specifically to secure women, but because it also brings money and it brings status.
	And men do like status.
	Yes, they do like status.
	Women like status from men.
	They like it from men, that's true, but men also like status from other men.
	Why do they want status from other men?
	It's just part of how we're built as a hierarchy.
	If we didn't have status appeal, there would be no hierarchy.
	Because we love hierarchy so much.
	The man that gets to the highest hierarchy of all men, what does he get?
	He gets whatever he wants.
	Exactly.
	So he gets his best choice of the women.
	He gets the most money.
	No, no, no.
	Now you're conflating two different things because you're describing his motivation to the best pick of women.
	But I'm saying that his motivation could be power for power's sake.
	I'm not just saying that.
	Nietzsche wrote on this extensively, in fact.
	And I would say I would have to disagree with you and say that their only motivation for power is to attract women.
	I think that if you're a man who is even on the path to the highest of the hierarchy, you have your pick of women anyway.
	Okay.
	Wait, so okay, you disagree about women.
	You said women shouldn't be drafted.
	No, I don't think women should be drafted.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I think women should be drafted.
	I think women should be drafted.
	I'm sorry.
	I do not want a woman on the front lines trying to protect the United States of America.
	I'm pretty sure that's like slightly different.
	Let me give you from a physiological perspective.
	Well, so let's say that the women, the women, are 20% less effective than the men.
	Well, couldn't you say that the army that's willing to send out the women?
	That's like some meat shield shit.
	Maybe you kill a few guys and then we come in, the dudes come in, and we take care of the rest.
	No, I mean, I'm arguing a little bit humorously here, but it occurs to me from just a purely egalitarian position, and that's kind of what feminists demand in almost every single other realm from a purely egalitarian position from an equality position, you should probably be drafted.
	From a feminist equality perspective, yeah.
	Also, let me just argue this.
	Let's say, for example, let me ask you this.
	So let's say we remain slightly sexist and we say, well, we're still going to draft women, but we'll preclude them.
	We'll protect them from these frontline duties and they'll only have support roles.
	We'll only draft them into support roles.
	What about nurses, galley, stuff like that?
	Nurses, maybe they can be like in a mortar squad, so they're kind of in the back, but they could still maybe die.
	I think the feminists will still have a problem with that.
	Probably the feminist will have a problem with.
	Yeah, because, oh, you're not going to be able to do that.
	Well, it's preferable to not.
	So you're saying the feminist position is women should just be drafted?
	Is that the feminist position?
	And they would say that they're not going to be able to do it for that.
	They would say no to that.
	There's a double stance for it.
	If a woman can do it better, then a woman should do it.
	If a man can do it better, then a man should do it.
	What if men are able to do it better?
	Oh, men do vote better.
	Should we...
	Oh, now I know where you're going with this.
	Look, I think women should vote, but should we run?
	I don't want to get canceled.
	Hold on.
	I don't know if I want to do it.
	Well, if you were to hypothetically say that women were better at a thing, and men were better at things than women.
	If you did think that something like a pattern, let's say, for instance, of voting, was better done by men than women, would you prefer then that women be excluded from this activity?
	Wow, that's a good framing.
	That was a really good way to frame that.
	I'm really sorry, but I need you to repeat that one.
	I'm sorry.
	I just said, I just said, I didn't ask you.
	Okay, so let me try it again.
	Thank you.
	So if you were to believe, as you do, that men are better at certain activities than women, and women are better at certain activities than men.
	That's what you just previously stated.
	I have that correct, right?
	Correct, definitely.
	Okay.
	Then if men were, let's say, better at voting than women were, would you necessarily exclude women from that activity because men were better at it?
	But that's excluded.
	If men are better at voting, then women should be excluded from voting.
	How do we know what so?
	The reason that he says that is because there is a map, and statistically, men are voting in a better trajectory than women are, especially post-feminism, that women are voting in ways that aren't necessarily benefiting our country.
	But that's also because women are more emotional.
	So, yes, women are better at certain things than men, like being nurturers.
	Men are way more analytical thinking, more geopolitical, smarter thinking in certain ways than women are.
	So, that's why he's bringing up that question.
	Because if you look at a map, men are voting in a trajectory that will benefit the countries more than necessarily in the more emotional views point of that.
	Well, men will vote for risk.
	Right.
	Then women vote for security.
	So, if the question really comes down to freedom or how much autonomy you want people to have, then if you want the maximum amount of autonomy, if you were looking at this objectively, you would push it over to men because men will take risk and risk will give you the highest amount of autonomy.
	Women tend to vote for security, and they tend to vote for basically more security for them, right?
	Let's put it that way.
	So, you're going to see more of a welfare state.
	You're going to see more things, social safety nets, you're going to see more things like this, whereas men are more likely to take risk when it comes to how they vote.
	And why are they so afraid to get canceled all the time?
	Wait, Andrew, I've got a question for you.
	I've got a question for you, Andrew.
	So, if it's copacetic, and I actually don't really object to a woman saying that women shouldn't be drafted, because that's obviously in their best interest, it makes sense.
	But if it's copacetic for a woman to say that statement, then shouldn't it in turn also be copacetic for a man to say, again, I'm not advocating for it, but for a man to say that women shouldn't vote?
	Because it occurs to me that if women can.
	With greater duty comes with greater responsibility.
	It's very simple.
	So, if you have a greater duty to the state, this in turn means you have a greater responsibility to the state, which means you should get greater reward from the state.
	What happens in this instance is that women have a lesser duty, but they get the same reward.
	That's bullshit.
	Yeah, and it almost seems like, I mean, this is going to be a hot take here, but saying that women shouldn't be drafted necessarily means that men should be drafted.
	If I because I mean, we can have well, it doesn't necessarily mean that men should be drafted, but it does mean that if you were to have press service, it's going to only be men.
	Right.
	So, it's almost a distinction with no merits, right?
	Let me make one more point.
	So, if that is the sort of de facto position, then, if, well, if women shouldn't be drafted, then it must be men.
	Well, that seems almost more sexist to say that men are disposable, send them into the war machine so they can go and die, versus women shouldn't be allowed to put a check mark on a piece of paper and participate in an election.
	I think it seems worse to go and die in a trench somewhere than to not be able to participate in the electoral process.
	That's just me.
	I don't know.
	But for the first time, right, so what you're saying is that if you have to take a higher risk to the state, then you should get a greater reward.
	Perhaps that reward could be voting, or perhaps that reward could be something else besides that.
	But this is why I love the movie, for instance, Starship Troopers.
	I told you this, right?
	Service guarantees citizenship.
	So that would just mean like, look, if this is something in which maybe you could do something like this, this might be a good in-between.
	You could say, look, if you're willing to give six years of your life to the state for free, you have no compensation whatsoever, then you can vote.
	And what you'd see is that the trend would still be that mostly it would just be men who were allowed to vote.
	There would still be someone.
	But then at least, wouldn't that meet the egalitarian standard?
	Go ahead.
	So following that logic, though, that would mean that participants of the military would be eligible to vote, not just the general public.
	No, that would just mean that people who gave service to the state in one capacity or the other for free for X amount of time would be able to vote.
	I don't think anyone should be forced to do anything.
	Men and women or solely just.
	You could include, but if you did, you could.
	You could include men and women.
	It's just that the side effect of this would be that it would be way more men who would sacrifice their time without compensation in order to be able to be one of these special electors.
	Did you have something in the move on a bit?
	I don't think men should be forced to do, anyone should be forced to do something they don't want to do.
	I think if we were in a better society, and I think if people were more patriotic, men would actually want to go and protect their family and children.
	I think you don't really believe, though, that people shouldn't be forced to do things that they don't want to do.
	I mean, obviously, people are forced to do things they don't want to do all the time, right?
	And that's perfectly fine.
	And you shouldn't murder people.
	You shouldn't.
	There's, you know, you shouldn't rob people.
	You shouldn't.
	No, no, no.
	What about should you stop at a stop sign?
	Look, if you don't want to stop at a stop sign, then you're going to get hit by a car.
	No, that's not what I asked.
	Should you stop at a stop sign?
	Yes, you should stop at a stop sign.
	You should stop at a stop sign.
	But aren't you forcing somebody who doesn't want to stop at a stop sign to do something you don't want to do?
	I'm not.
	I'm not.
	The government.
	The government.
	Yeah.
	You know, well, wait, you are.
	You're imposing that if you don't do this thing, there's going to be a penalty.
	Like, I would recommend stopping at a stop sign because we have rules, like, stop, or you get hit by a car.
	But you can't.
	No, no, no.
	That's not what you just said.
	You just said they should stop at a stop sign, right?
	You're saying then that what you would make it is what, what, free association?
	You can stop at a stop sign if you want to?
	Doesn't that seem absurd to you?
	Like, if you just feel like it, you can?
	That's how people go through life.
	Like, they have willpower, and they just like, I want to do this.
	I feel like I'm doing that.
	I'm going to do this.
	That's Nick.
	Yeah, I know.
	But if you impose penalties for bad behavior, they do bad behavior less.
	Yeah, that's true.
	So you want people to stop signs more silver.
	What you would do is you would impose a law that said if you don't stop at a stop sign, there's some sort of fine or something like that, right?
	Brian, how does this have to do anything with dating?
	That's what was one of the conversations.
	Well, because you're testing the logic.
	We are talking in a broad sense about relationships, but people can come to views on relationships through other means, and it's important to test their logic on that.
	That was crazy.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I mean, that's a relationship coach.
	I believe I'm talking to a relationship coach whose worldview informs her on relationships.
	Would I be wrong?
	We do have a lot of notes.
	We won't linger too long on that draft one.
	Bender the offender donated $100.
	I would argue Starship Troopers has the most egalitarian society in terms of men and women working together.
	Yes.
	Would you like to know more?
	Yeah, just actually send the whole script, transcript of the movie in TTS form.
	Let's see what happens.
	Just eat that.
	Yeah, that'd be pretty funny.
	Okay, so other notes, we have you wanted to talk about women don't have it easier in dating.
	Because I've said women have to dating on easy mode, women have it easier when it comes to dating.
	So, what's your objections there?
	Can I just say that?
	Oh, she's got notes.
	Okay, shit.
	Yeah, go for it.
	What you got?
	Can I just preface that I'm not saying it isn't hard for men.
	I'm not saying it's not hard at all.
	It's probably really hard than it's ever been for men, and especially for the good ones.
	So, I'm not saying that men are privileged overall.
	So, I just want to preface that.
	And then I want to say that it's meant to.
	What?
	Huh?
	What's wrong?
	Yeah, yeah.
	So, yeah, I want to say that, yeah, it's meant to be hard for men.
	Sorry, dating is meant to be hard for men.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So our selection process, I think as women, has been hijacked.
	So women are basically a bit brainwashed into making choices that are not best for them.
	That's my first point.
	Two, in dating, there is a physical risk to the woman that men don't have.
	Number three, women want sexual exclusivity from a man.
	Men will date, but this doesn't interfere in exclusiveness.
	Women have to select the best men to fill the earth with.
	Making the wrong choice has consequences.
	So we have to make the best decision for men, for the world.
	The quality of men has deteriorated.
	So women.
	Yeah.
	So women are born with their value, whereas men have to make their value.
	Yeah.
	I think women are a little bit brainwashed.
	That's my point.
	Let's go.
	Okay, so you disagree that.
	So my position is dating is harder for men.
	Yeah.
	And those are the.
	Can we just also define what you mean by dating?
	So just like getting a date, or is it getting married?
	Or is it having sex?
	Sure.
	I mean, there's different periods where perhaps the difficulty of dating might start equalizing.
	But let's start off here.
	So the initial getting to the first date.
	Let's start there.
	And we can have conversations of, you know, further down along the pipeline of the courtship process.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So are women expected to approach men?
	No.
	Okay.
	Are women expected to do any chivalrous behavior towards men?
	Women shouldn't behave in a masculine way.
	Okay.
	Do women have any burden of initiative at all when it comes to meeting men?
	I think women should.
	Aside from just showing up or being on a dating app?
	I think, so getting to the date, they should maybe smile or make eye contact, which shows to the man, like, yes, you can approach me.
	You're not going to get rejected.
	What do you mean?
	Okay, all right, continue.
	Go ahead.
	So your question is, what does a woman provide on a date?
	Here, well, let me tell you what men do, and then let's counter it to what women do, and we'll see if we can come to agreement or disagreement.
	So here's what men do: approach.
	I've written, I've got notes too.
	Approaching, sending the first message, carrying and leading the conversation, soliciting a first date, soliciting your number, setting up the date, carrying, leading the conversation on the date, paying for the date, soliciting a change of venue, or soliciting subsequent dates and the setup and financial responsibility for said dates, moving things forward physically, closing the distance gap, going for the first kiss, moving things.
	I won't get detailed, but moving things forward physically from there, all the way up until sex and beyond.
	So what's hard about that?
	That's very convenient for a woman to say who never has to do any of that.
	That's not our role to do that.
	Right.
	So what's hard?
	Okay, here, let's role play.
	I'm a woman, you're a man.
	Pick me up.
	Go ahead.
	Well, I'd definitely just see whether you're interested first and see if you're like me.
	I'm not, I haven't looked at you at all.
	I'm in the Trader Joe's.
	You think I'm attractive?
	Go ahead.
	Maybe I would ask a question.
	I'd be like, oh, I'm looking for this, or what are you buying?
	And then if you were looking, if you look like, don't touch me.
	I'm buying cantalopes.
	If you look, don't touch me, or don't talk to me, sorry.
	Then I would just be like, back off.
	I would not continue.
	But if she's like, oh, hi.
	Let's roleplay the conversation.
	I want to say I'm not good at this because I'm not a dude, so I don't know what to do.
	I'm not sure if I can do it.
	Okay, check me.
	You lose.
	Okay.
	Hi there.
	What are you up to today?
	I'm shopping at Trader Joe's.
	All right, then have a good day.
	You don't seem interested, so I would back off.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You seemed a little bit.
	Yeah, that's how like 99% of women are going to respond.
	Men face so much rejection that when they are just getting to the first date, that is a huge milestone.
	So I will say like 100% it is way more difficult for men to date because women will be approached 10 times more than any man will ever even just get to the first date point.
	That is really hard part about being a man.
	You have to get rejected a lot.
	That's just what you have to do.
	Who faces more rejection?
	Men or women?
	Men.
	Men.
	Okay, so that, wouldn't you be able to make the argument that the sex that faces more rejection would mean that it's harder to date?
	No, I wouldn't say that.
	So women have dating harder because they face less rejection than men?
	No, I'm not talking about rejection.
	That's part of dating.
	Is that not part of dating?
	Yeah, but there are different ways that dating can be difficult.
	I think rejection is the hard part for men.
	And I think there are different things that are hard for women because we have different things.
	What's hard for women?
	I've just listed them.
	Don't need to listen to them.
	I mean, you listed this fear of violence, but that's like abnormal.
	That's a pretty abnormal dating scenario, huh?
	That was one of my many other points.
	Okay.
	Okay, who has an easier time getting laid?
	Men.
	Oh, sorry, women.
	If they wanted to get laid, a woman probably could.
	Okay.
	Now, isn't that sort of, kind of, the first step towards dating?
	No.
	If you can't even...
	It's definitely not the first step in dating.
	Well...
	Well, depends on who you ask, but I mean, I would argue for the vast majority of, like, let's exclude religious people from this.
	Let's just look at kind of what secular dating looks like.
	I would argue most adult relationships, perhaps even for religious people, maybe they're not super religious.
	It's not, let's date for three months and then have sex.
	Most people, I would argue, are having sex fairly early on in the courtship process.
	So we're just talking about what most people do because how's that working out?
	It's not working out very well.
	Sure, I agree.
	So I don't think they should.
	I don't think women should.
	If it's the case for most men that it's hard to get a date, get a relationship, get sex.
	It is hard, but it's not hard.
	And if it's easier.
	Wait, what do you mean?
	It's not as hard as it is for women?
	Yeah, so I'm just repeating my point.
	Okay.
	If you stacked up the list of things that a man would have to do in a relationship as opposed to things a woman would have to do in a relationship, you would say like that more is on the man's side, right?
	In dating, I think men have to prove themselves more.
	So it's harder if men have to prove themselves, wouldn't it stand to reason that dating is harder for men?
	I think it's harder for women right now and like our climate and what's happening right now.
	Yes.
	Don't understand what makes it harder for women in this current culture that we live in, which I will agree with you that the dating culture absolutely sucks right now.
	And that I think there's a lot of problems going on with like feminism.
	And honestly, I feel like women are trying to more compete with men during dates instead of actually being just the feminine woman that they're designing.
	Mars women are brainwashed and they're competing with men instead of being feminine.
	But I don't think that that makes it harder for men because there are men that aren't.
	You don't think breaking from being brainwashed is hard?
	No, it is hard, but I'm saying men have a harder time dating right now than women do.
	Because even a more masculine woman who isn't necessarily a super feminine girl and has more masculine traits, she's still going to have an easier time getting a date with a man than a man is going to have trying to get a date.
	Yes, but that's not the goal.
	Like a woman could get a date with any guy, and it doesn't.
	It's just a waste of her time if he's a dud.
	Factually, if you stacked it up, though, like the woman has more options to at least you can get there.
	Like most women can at least get to that point.
	Like there's men out there who can't even get a date.
	And it's a decent portion of men because most I would argue like most men are invisible to most women.
	And that's why they seek my services.
	Oh my god.
	I don't think it's hard for men.
	I'm not saying it's not hard for men, especially now.
	I'm just saying it's hard for women.
	So, but it's hard for everyone.
	If being constantly rejected is not a big deal, then why don't women approach men more often?
	That's not our role to approach men.
	It's not going to go well.
	If I approached a man, I'll be like, hey, blah, blah, blah.
	He'd actually probably be very shocked.
	Most men would be super flat.
	I think I could easily get sex, which is what happens with approaching, but I couldn't maintain a relationship.
	Because you approach just by virtue of you approaching myself.
	I'm beginning the relationship, taking on the masculine role.
	That sets the turn.
	But you can approach a man.
	First off, most women don't do cold approach.
	Most women aren't going to do an overt approach.
	They're going to do like what you said.
	Oh, I made eye contact with him, so that's me taking initiative, which really isn't.
	But so, where am I going with this?
	I think a woman could approach a man and still give him room to kind of take over and lead and still be feminine.
	You don't need to approach a dude and be like, wanna fuck?
	I think there is a way to show you dropping the hanky sort of thing.
	Right.
	You're like, oh, no, drop.
	And that's like how we do that.
	I actually think if a girl approached a guy, the thing is, though, what occurs to me is women would just approach the really hot dudes and actually probably won't even approach like the guys who are on their level because they're like, well, if I'm going to take my shot, I'm going to take my shot with like a really attractive dude.
	So perhaps in that scenario, yeah, you're just going to get sex.
	But if you actually approach a guy who's commensurate to your attractiveness, I would actually argue that your chance of success is insanely high.
	Let me ask you a question, if you don't mind.
	You said that on the approach that women would be less successful than men due to the fact that that's the masculine role, correct?
	Long-term, making a general statement.
	Yes, I think there are individuals that would work out for because it's like maybe that's what would work for them.
	Maybe there's like a masculine woman and a kind of a feminine dude.
	As a dating coach, do you think that that's a more masculine or feminine role?
	Which one?
	Which approaching?
	Being a dating coach.
	I don't know, probably a masculine kind of thing.
	Yeah, but that's not.
	I'm not dating my job.
	Let me make sure that you are a dating coach.
	Is that correct?
	I'm not.
	I'm just interested in the subject, and that's why I like to go.
	I'm definitely open to learning more about the subject.
	I'm not saying I know everything.
	I'm just saying that's the topic that interests me.
	But I don't think there could be a police feminine.
	I've approached anyone.
	I'm definitely open to learning.
	I'm not saying I know everything.
	I think there could be a really feminine woman who's teaching other women also how to embrace their femininity within dating.
	But hold on.
	But you say in your Instagram bio, DM me dating for free guide.
	Yeah, thank you.
	To dating, you have a guide.
	I'm available, but I'm.
	Yeah, I have a data.
	Oh, wait, wait, hang on, back up, back up, back.
	Hang on.
	What do you mean you're available?
	I'm like, if someone DMs me that thing, 24 guide, I'll send them the guide.
	Okay, is it a paid service?
	Do you get a paid service?
	Are you in a paper?
	It's just a free guide.
	I just want to like, I'm just interested in the subject.
	It's a free guide.
	I'm thinking hopefully down the road, I'll be really good at it, but I'm not saying I'm a professor of dating right now.
	So it's just free.
	Okay.
	I'm not lying to anyone.
	Sure.
	Trying to swindle anyone.
	No, I'm not.
	Well, I'm not saying that, but assuming for a second, because you're interested in the topic, that you're going to go pro, do you think that that would be a more masculine or feminine role?
	And do you think that clients should move over towards men for the advice or to women?
	I don't really understand what you mean, but I feel like having a career I'm going to be able to do.
	Well, let me rephrase so that you do understand what I mean.
	I want to be very specific here.
	Assume for a second that you did enter into the role where people paid you for dating advice.
	Is that a role that you would ever accept?
	If I felt like I was giving good advice and helping people, yes.
	Sure.
	Would that be a more masculine or feminine role?
	It would probably be a, it could be both, depending on the situation, but maybe leaning more masculine.
	I'm not saying that women are 100% feminine all the time.
	I feel like women can behave in masculine.
	Yeah, I'm not beating you up about that.
	I'm not saying that it's.
	I'm just trying to understand.
	Would you think then that men going to a dating coach who is male would be better for them than going to a dating coach who is female?
	Yeah, I think men should probably go to a dude.
	I'm trying to be available for women.
	Here, let me.
	Okay.
	So, just on the whole, who's got the harder when it comes to dating?
	Just some questions for you.
	Have you ever approached a guy?
	No.
	Never?
	How many, just curious, how many boyfriends have you had?
	I've had two.
	Two boyfriends?
	Only two?
	Have you had shorter-term relationships?
	No.
	No?
	I've had a seven-year relationship and like a year when I was 18.
	Okay.
	How did they meet you in person?
	Did they slide into your DMs?
	How did you meet them?
	In person.
	In person?
	So they approached you?
	Okay, and you've never approached a guy?
	No.
	Okay.
	Have you ever been rejected by a guy?
	Yes.
	You have?
	So how did you, how were you in a position to be rejected?
	At the end of my seven-year relationship, he's a- Oh, well, that's not what I'm talking about.
	That is rejection for a woman.
	If a man doesn't want to have exclusivity with her, we'll get married, have children.
	That's a breakup.
	That's rejection.
	When I'm thinking about that.
	Do you mind?
	I'm sorry, I really don't mean to keep harping on this, but I'm on your Instagram right now and it literally says dating coach.
	Dating coaching.
	Okay.
	So I just want to make sure.
	Oh, the highlight.
	Yeah.
	That you're not a dating coach?
	I haven't had any experience.
	I would like to offer it.
	I'm giving free advice.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay.
	I've never said I was a dating coach.
	Like an insurer, I was like, I'm studying to a PT, and I'm interested in has a guy ever slid into your DMs?
	Yes, have you ever slid into a guy's DMs?
	No, no, okay.
	Um, has a guy ever asked you out on a first date?
	Yes, have you ever asked a guy out on the first date?
	No, of all the times that you've kissed someone for the first time, did you go for the first kiss or did the guy go for the first kiss?
	The guy, okay.
	Of the times, um, and you've never initiated the first kiss, okay.
	Um, of all the times a guy has initiated the first kiss, have you ever turned the guy down?
	Of course, yeah, definitely.
	Okay, um, of all the times that anything's been ended, whether short-term or long-term, it sounds like you haven't done really any short-term dating, even for three or six months.
	Is that correct?
	Nothing like that.
	So, you've only been romantically involved with two men?
	That's that's it really of all the times you've of your two, well, so you've only been had one breakup?
	I've had two breakups, two breakups.
	Okay, who ended it?
	The guy or you?
	The guy, okay.
	Have you ever made a guy wait for sex?
	Um, yeah, has a guy ever made you wait for sex?
	No, okay.
	Well, I mean, going off your questions, it seems like dating sounds like a little harder for men.
	Do you want to elaborate?
	Okay.
	You've never been rejected, you've rejected men, you've never had to go in for the first kiss, you've always just you've you've been very passive in your dating experiences.
	That is what a woman does, right?
	She's passive, so then we can assess: well, is it easier to be the one who has to be proactive, or is it easier to just be passive?
	Because I can give my point of view on this as somebody who's been on both ends of this, because I'm out there on the content in the content game.
	I've had girls DM me.
	It's way easier to just pick among the girls who like you and who are contacting you than you having to like put yourself out there.
	It's way fucking easier, and I've been on both sides of that, and I can tell you it's way better to be you have denying you're a man of like higher status probably than most of the guys who are well that's not even what I'm arguing.
	I'm just saying I've had the experience of women approaching me, I've also been on the other side of that before I kind of came into the I'm not saying I'm like crazy famous, but and I don't even get I get less the DMs than a 19-year-old college chick, okay, like an average college chick who's a nobody that wasn't on my list of things, yes, yeah, but so in my own experience from having dealt with like women coming to me versus me putting myself out there,
	it's way fucking it's a way stronger position.
	I shouldn't say strong, it's just a better position to be in to have people coming to you than the reverse.
	And it's you, I mean, it's easy.
	Oh, you like me?
	Cool, it's so easy.
	Um, that's that's an interesting point of view from you, yeah.
	I think maybe some guys would enjoy you think hot, hot women just throwing themselves at men, you think they're gonna be like, No, I'd rather just chase women who are who are on the fence about me.
	I'd rather just have a bit more status.
	Like, I don't think if you were like, didn't have a podcast and you weren't known, you're just some dude off the street and you didn't have any money.
	Oh, no girls would DM me, no girls would be.
	And I, yes, I remember those days, yes.
	So, what's your point?
	It's easier now that you've got that you actually have some value, yeah.
	But I can say from being on both sides of it.
	Yeah.
	Because you've never been on the side of.
	Yes, I have.
	I've just told you.
	I've been broken up with.
	No, no, no.
	You've never been on this.
	You've never experienced having to be the one pursuing.
	Women don't really pursue.
	Women don't pursue.
	Precisely.
	But I can speak as someone who's been pursued and who's done the pursuing.
	It's way fucking better to be pursued.
	I'm sure it is, yeah.
	But I don't really think that's like the hardest thing in the world to pursue a woman.
	You get rejected.
	Well, again, that's convenient.
	We're not the ones doing it.
	It's not our job to pursue.
	I job is to select.
	But we can have empathy for men who are the ones who are like men.
	I already prefaced that.
	It's not that hard to just get brutally rejected time after time.
	To get women than it is for a woman to get a man.
	That's just like the basis of it.
	Which I think if a woman does have some sort of interest in a man, like, yeah, tell him, be like, I like whatever it is, but I know, I agree, it's not the woman's job to, you know, initiate a date or seek after men.
	You know, we as women want to be pursued because I do agree.
	If you're starting the relationship in that way, then you're starting the relationship with the more masculine role and then, you know, not really allowing them to continue that.
	Does that make sense?
	That's why it's easier for us.
	Right.
	What you're saying is we don't have to.
	Because we don't have to do all these things.
	So it is easier for us.
	How about I think it's hard to select from if I had like heaps of dudes coming at me all the time, be like, oh, I'd have to be like, oh, which one is like what time?
	Hot men just want to buy you drinks.
	They don't want to buy you dinner.
	They don't want to have sex with you.
	They just want to, I don't want to have sex.
	I don't want to have that hard.
	Okay, but there's fine.
	It's not the same.
	It's not the same goal.
	They want to wait three dates.
	I have to select which guy is just trying to fuck me and which one wants to marry me.
	That's right.
	You can have a lot of money.
	Men are very good at that.
	But that's not necessarily harder than the men's job.
	I think it's hard to be rejected.
	I think that sucks, but I don't think it's.
	I don't think it's the hardest thing in the world.
	I think it's a good idea.
	I think being rejected is a learning thing.
	Like men could be like, oh, I wonder why.
	You know what?
	I kind of agree with you insofar as I actually think one of the reasons why men strive and achieve is because of rejection.
	Women reject them.
	They're like, shit, let me start.
	Let me hit the gym.
	Let me go build a business.
	That's great.
	Let me go achieve.
	Let me get status.
	Yes.
	So, and it's good in the sense of like being rejected can romantically can absolutely light a fire under your ass.
	So many men have made massive transformations.
	They hit the gym.
	They get ripped.
	They start a business because they got burned.
	Because they got rejected.
	Didn't they have that if they weren't rejected?
	If they just got a girl and it's like, oh, hey, here's a bunch of people.
	It doesn't diminish.
	Would you ever have that fire?
	It doesn't diminish the degree that it sucks to be rejected.
	And it's just, it's just objectively more difficult to be the pursuer.
	So is this like the silver lining?
	Like, yeah, you got like absolute brutally rejected by a bunch of women, but, you know, I think if a man doesn't provide value, he shouldn't be selected.
	So then that's what he's learned.
	He's like, oh, I'm not doing anything that's valuable to the women because she's saying no.
	I'm going to go and work on myself.
	It doesn't mean that it's not harder.
	It can still be harder.
	And there can also be benefits of rejection.
	It isn't meant to be easy.
	And like.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Would you rather pursue or select, though?
	I would always prefer to be a woman, so I would prefer.
	Why?
	Why would you rather select?
	Because that's what I'm born to do.
	But suppose this.
	It's born this way.
	Suppose you weren't.
	Suppose you weren't deciding between being a man or a woman, regardless.
	Like, just take that out of the equation.
	Like, would you rather pursue or select?
	Select.
	Because it's easier.
	No, because.
	I don't know.
	I can't really put myself in a man's mind.
	I don't really know what it's actually like to be a man.
	So I guess that does bias me a lot.
	I'm just glad my husband got rejected so much because I found him.
	I mean, if I can just bring it to a bit of a niche scenario here, too.
	I would actually argue women.
	Women who have certain character flaws are.
	Bender the offender donated $100.
	So she is basically complaining about play the game of life on easy mode.
	Do you want to play on hard mode or something?
	I don't want to be a man.
	I'm very happy that I'm a woman.
	I think it's very hard overall.
	I think overall it is harder to be a man than to be a woman.
	Does that extend to dating?
	Or you mean overall too?
	You mean in life too?
	I mean, that's kind of a matter of time.
	I think in life it is way harder to be a man than to be a woman.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Next disagreement.
	Let's go through all of these.
	Let's go through all these.
	You also said, ooh, okay, this is going to be a contentious one.
	The women are going to turn.
	Well, they probably did.
	You say you support plastic surgery to a point and makeup.
	So I've stated previously on the podcast that I'm a natural body supremacist.
	I'm not a fan of makeup.
	I'm not a fan of cosmetic surgery, plastic surgery.
	So lip fillers, breast implants, lipo, BBLs, labia plasty, that's a huge one.
	I think women are.
	Okay, I'll give the scenarios, right?
	I'd prefer a woman with flat boobs than big fake titties.
	I'd prefer a woman with a low belly fat than lipo belly.
	I'd prefer a woman with a small upper lip than lip filler.
	I'd prefer a woman with a small bum over the BBL, which looks ridiculous.
	And I'd prefer some giant labia instead of labia plasty.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	That's your preference.
	And also I prefer minimal or no makeup over makeup.
	All right.
	Have you heard of David Buss?
	Who's that?
	Or I've heard the name.
	Is it an author or something?
	He's an author.
	I'm pretty sure he talked about it.
	Evapsych?
	If you want to look it up, he wrote a really important book about how men select women.
	Like, what features they look for.
	You don't know who David Buss is?
	Oh, so here, I'm prepared to agree with you that generally speaking, men find large breasts attractive.
	Men find large butts attractive.
	My position, though, is it.
	And I think a lot of men would agree with me on this.
	It ought to be natural.
	And you can't, just because you're trying to basically fraud and trick us and you've pulled this veneer over you doesn't mean that that's how you actually look.
	And I think BBLs look ridiculous.
	I don't think BBLs look good either.
	I agree.
	I think it's gone a bit crazy.
	I definitely think it's gone a bit crazy.
	Well, you have plastic surgery, correct?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Lip filler.
	Fake tits.
	I don't want to talk about specifically what.
	Let's just stick to the argument.
	But I would say that if all women stopped doing it, I think it would be fine.
	I just think women are competing to be really pretty.
	So it's, and I, and I will say, I've been an average-looking girl, and I've been a pretty looking girl.
	And it's life is a lot easier as a pretty girl.
	And I will say, men treat me a lot nicer because I'm pretty.
	People treat me a lot nicer because I'm pretty.
	Well, was that you are because you have fake tits, right?
	So is that what you're talking about?
	I don't want to talk about specifically.
	I will say that there was, there's definitely been a bit of a glow up.
	And I have experienced life on both ends.
	And it's, I appreciate, I kind of see, I appreciate men a bit more because they open doors for me.
	They're very nice.
	But beforehand, it was kind of like I wasn't even looked at.
	Sure, pretty privilege is a thing, but I mean, at the end of the day, natural beauty, I think, will always precede fake beauty because I think the beauty standards, one, like women are constantly competing with other women.
	I don't think that women are going through these procedures for men, but they've been told that getting lip fillers, they've been told that getting, you know, a boob job is going to attract more women, which sure, objectively, you know, bigger boobs might attract more men, but also, are they attracted to that?
	Are they attracted to your personality?
	So I don't know.
	Did you just contradict yourself, though?
	Didn't you just say that they're not going for these procedures to attract men?
	And then the next breath, you said, sure, they're doing this because it attracts men.
	I will say, like, lip fillers, if you're getting Botox or fillers in your face, BBL, something that's way beyond a natural appearance, then yes, they will not be physically attracted to that.
	But contrast to that, if you look at society now versus go back 30-some years, I think we live in this hyper-pornified society to where that kind of unattainable beauty standard is something that's being put in front in the media more than natural beauty.
	Yeah, sure, but it's still to attract men.
	Honestly, like women compete with women more for beauty.
	I agree with that.
	It's not always.
	Why?
	What are they competing for?
	Just to be the prettiest.
	One.
	Like, genuinely women are.
	So that they can get what?
	Self-security.
	It's self-reassuring.
	Are you guys just?
	Women have such low self-esteem that they're doing it for themselves and they're doing it for other women, which I know sounds crazy, but it does sound so crazy.
	It sounds like it's not always doing anything.
	There's no way that women are getting fake boobs to compete with other women.
	They're getting fake boobs so that they don't get it.
	No, I'm talking about fillers in their face.
	They're getting Botox or getting lip fillers.
	They're not getting that for men.
	They're getting that because they're competing with other women.
	If they see another woman or their friend starting to get wrinkles, they're going to get Botox because they don't want wrinkles.
	Can we just call it for what?
	It's mental illness.
	What is it?
	Can we just say it's mental illness?
	Wait.
	Oh, she agrees?
	I agree with you.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Basilexi.
	Well, hey, I agree with you.
	That's true.
	Basilexi.
	I mean, what is it?
	I'm sure that they're doing it for male attention, honestly.
	I've really agree with you there.
	We just knew it because women like to compete with each other for no particularly good reason.
	The entire competition hierarchy between women seems to be based along the lines of how much male attention from the highest status men they can get.
	That's what beauty standards are about.
	But women are all the propaganda.
	Women are creating not unrealistic beauty standards where women are continuously getting more procedures done in this unrealistic way to where it's changing the standard.
	But women are the one that are making that standard where men continuously are saying that they're more attracted to natural women.
	And I get a lot of girls that are like, oh my God, I want my body done just like hers.
	I want it done just like hers.
	I'm showing her certain.
	Exactly.
	What I was saying was how brainwashed.
	What do you have?
	Women are brainwashed.
	What do you mean?
	Wait, what?
	What you, huh?
	Wait, what?
	What are you saying, Ryan?
	Oh, what surgeries do you have?
	I mean, I know you have fake.
	Yeah, that's it.
	But, like, um.
	That's it?
	You don't have anything else?
	No.
	Oh.
	I thought you were talking about the.
	I don't even wear makeup.
	Okay, you got fake lashes in.
	Come on, bro.
	Hey, that's it.
	And I don't have like nothing else.
	My eyebrows, my face.
	Do you have eyebrow tattoo?
	The microbladed?
	Yeah.
	That's it.
	You have an eyebrow tattoo?
	I don't have like foundation on nothing.
	So.
	Cool.
	But back to your previous point.
	Yeah, let's go back.
	Yeah.
	Indra thinks women do it like for male attention, but I feel like I agree with more.
	It's probably both.
	In saying it is a competition.
	It could be a bit of both, but speaking from like at least a personal point, I mean, I can't speak for all women, but I mean, I know how my insecurities can kind of like go a little bit deeper than that and then want me to change certain things.
	But it's not necessarily.
	But let's assume for a second, let's just buy into this for a second.
	Let's assume that your insecurities are because you think that the women who are around you are far more beautiful and plentiful than you are.
	If suddenly by the next day nothing changed about you, but you had all the male attention, would all those bitches be jealous?
	And would your insecurities suddenly be alleviated?
	Well, personally, for myself, I have an image that I set for myself, and it doesn't matter like the male attention or female attention that I get, as long as I'm not seeing that for myself, I have to be satisfied with myself, not how much of it is.
	Yeah, but how would you know what the standard was for yourself?
	It's a standard.
	If it was not for how many men gave you attention, wouldn't that inform your standard for you?
	Not necessarily.
	For me, it's a standard that I set for myself.
	It's like a compilation of what I aspire to be in a sense, how I aspire to look just for myself.
	But I mean, I have a boyfriend, and I, like, he could tell me I'm pretty a thousand times, but I would still want to change certain things about myself.
	Not necessarily to like appease him, to appease other men, but just so I can.
	Yeah, but that's one guy, but what if it was all the guys?
	I'll give an example.
	I'm teasing towards you.
	I've had men tell me, no, don't get lip fillers.
	I'd rather you not get Botox.
	I have absolutely no work done at all.
	And I've had men that have told me, don't get any of these things done.
	But then I've had women, oh, you should get half a syringe with me.
	Come with me to the meds bar.
	Just get a couple units of Botox that will help with your fine lines and wrinkles to where women are encouraging other women to get these cosmetic surgeries and like these small plastics because men are more attracted to natural women.
	So that's what's going on.
	So wait, so wait, you think they're sabotaging you?
	I mean, to an extent.
	I mean, women are constantly just attracted to getting these kinds of procedures.
	And I've experienced men not wanting me to get any of that done, which I am on board with.
	I'm like, I don't want to get any of that done.
	Yeah, so you didn't get any of it done, right?
	Right.
	But that's what I'm saying.
	If men aren't.
	The assumption there is that you don't get it all done because you get more male attention if it's not done.
	That's the assumption, right?
	So then why are women, then why are you saying that women are getting all of these procedures done for male attention if at the end of the day?
	Well, not every woman's going to be in your situation.
	Take, for instance, her not dating coach friend over here who said she's been on both sides of the spectrum.
	My assumption here is that before she was on the side of the spectrum where she was perceived as, quote, hot, this was pre-boob job cosmetic surgery, things like this.
	Am I wrong?
	Are you asking me?
	Yeah.
	Life was easier as a pretty girl.
	Yeah, and that was post having stuff done, right?
	But then there's a lot of things.
	So then this would go to my point again that, yes, it is possible that you can have a natural beauty and so donate to $100.
	Saying women compete because of men is like the girl's point earlier about men competing amongst each other for women.
	Andrew, is it just a functional difference between these?
	Yes, because women don't value power the same way that men do.
	And that was what the point was that we were addressing earlier, was whether or not men will compete for status for status's sake, and they will.
	Women seem to be less inclined to do that.
	Rather, they seem to be donated $100.
	A 100% naturally attractive female that doesn't care for the beauty standards of these days and doesn't compare herself to other females or seeking male attention are the holy grail of women.
	Right.
	And I would agree with this.
	So kind of back to this point, which is to say that not every woman's going to be a, quote, natural beauty.
	So it's easy to say, well, naturally beautiful.
	Men are more attracted to me, etc., etc.
	Whereas on the other side of the spectrum, you have a gal here who says, well, I was on that side where my natural beauty sucked and nobody liked it until I had these cosmetic enhancements.
	It still seems like it's competition for men on both sides, to be honest with you.
	That's what it looks like from my perspective.
	I mean, I won't say there's no competition with men at all.
	Like, I'm not going to say it's like 0% competition with men because that is a factor with attractiveness in general.
	We got killer.
	Killer serial donated $100.
	Thank you, everybody, for all the certain age.
	The amount of work done doesn't keep up with the rest of your aging body.
	It makes you look physically ill.
	Plastic women competing for the crypt keeper.
	Brian, I'm a life guy.
	I'm a life guy.
	What does that mean?
	I'm a life.
	Can I make a point?
	Like the board game life?
	Competing for the cryptkeeper.
	Let me just read one of these chats that's about to come in and I'll have you come in.
	We have Johnny Crypto.
	We all have to compete for what we want in life.
	Men compete against men for women.
	Women have to compete with women for men.
	If you can wear makeup, I can wear shoe lifts.
	Thoughts from the ladies really quick on let's do shoe lifts and toupees.
	Shoe lifts and toupes.
	Yay?
	Yeah, sure.
	You're fine with the toupee?
	Yeah.
	Wouldn't feel a little misled.
	Okay.
	I think women change their physical appearance, whereas men lie about their status and success.
	So is that like equal, like one-to-one fair, like fair game, right?
	I feel like they lie different ways.
	Like if a woman has fake titties, he can lie about his job.
	That's an interesting one.
	I mean, he can lie, but, and a woman should try to get the truth, I guess.
	Like, I haven't lied about who I am, what I've done.
	Yeah.
	But don't men tend to elevate physical appearance more so than women do?
	Although, I mean, I've had differing takes on this, but whereas a woman might be more attracted to a guy because of his success or career or status or ambition.
	So if women lie about the predominant thing that makes them attractive to men, would it not be fair to say that men should or could or ought to lie about the predominant thing that women find attractive in men?
	I see what you mean.
	That's an inconsistency there.
	I think it's harder for men to keep up the lie there.
	Men can't really keep up the lie.
	And it's a little different.
	It's not a one-to-one fair comparison, but oh, just around the table on this, shoe lifts and toupe.
	What is that?
	A toupee?
	It's like a hair piece.
	So like they're bald, but they like have hair, like a hair.
	It's like a wig for it.
	It's a wig.
	And I'm just like answering like yay or nay.
	Like, would you kind of feel a little like, oh, because maybe you like a guy with a full head of hair and you'd be like, and then he like takes it off after you fuck.
	And you're like, wait, hold on.
	I thought you had a full head of hair.
	Go ahead, Lexi.
	You got this.
	Yay.
	Oh, you're down with the toupee?
	Sure.
	Okay, all right, Lexi.
	Thank you for contributing.
	That was beautiful.
	I can say toupee, yes.
	Shoelifts, no.
	Against the shoelifts.
	Against the shoe lifts.
	Fine with the toupee.
	Fine with the toupee.
	That's interesting.
	What about you?
	Neither.
	I get amazing.
	Because, number one, genetics.
	Like, I wouldn't want my son to have to go through that and then have to go through the rejection of it, right?
	Of golden.
	And then being short, genetics again.
	Short men are now.
	I'm sorry.
	Now, if you don't know what a woman's face actually looks like and her body looks like, and she's got in all these plastic surgeries to change how she appears, wouldn't that have an impact on how our children end up appearing?
	Yes, yes.
	So, well, oh, interesting.
	What's your personally?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	What about you?
	Toupe.
	I think either is fun.
	Fine, Sean.
	You wouldn't, you date a guy, and after you fuck, he takes his toupee off.
	Not that.
	I mean, I might be a little caught off guard.
	You know, like you're laying there in bed.
	You're laying there in bed.
	It was like the best sex ever.
	And he just like, he comes back from the bathroom and like throws it at you like a dead rat.
	You'd be a little caught off guard for sure.
	I'm ordering a plan B.
	Oh, shit.
	Morgan, Toupe.
	Yeah, see, to your point, I'm all natural.
	I would personally, like, if I'm married and they need a toupee, cool, we're already married.
	But if it's like in the dating scene and they have a toupee, yeah, I'm sorry.
	Hold on, guys.
	This hair is natural, and I'd like my kids to also have that idea.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay.
	So, wait.
	Okay.
	So, you said, okay, but you wanted to disagree with me.
	So, like, you say you support plastic surgery to a point and makeup, and I don't.
	So, let's argue.
	Didn't we already just argue about that?
	I don't think so, really.
	I think it's okay to enhance natural features.
	I will, yeah.
	And there are obvious changes that give you a certain advantage in the dating scenario situation.
	And I think that it has been taken to excess for a lot of people, which isn't really appealing to men.
	It's become a different, more of a like, it's become a market, really.
	Like, there's people, the makeup or the plastic surgeons are making money off of it.
	Okay, so my position on plastic surgery and makeup is that it's a facade.
	It's not true.
	It's not how you actually look.
	I think it's a lie.
	It's a bamboozle.
	Yeah.
	It's paint.
	But do you think no makeup at all?
	I don't mind a little like eyeliner, maybe, but like I prefer no makeup.
	Who do you think is the most beautiful woman in the world?
	I mean, it's very hard to say.
	For you.
	I don't really have like celebrity crushes.
	Like, I don't.
	I don't think I could.
	All right.
	Well, what?
	I mean, I've previously said that a woman who I think is very attractive, I don't know if I don't think she's the most beautiful woman I've ever seen, but a woman who I think is very attractive is, oh, I'm blanking on her name.
	Chat knows it better than me.
	Oh my God, what's that girl from Smallville?
	Oh, the Asian one?
	Yeah, the Asian girl.
	Half Asian girl.
	Kristen Kruek, thank you.
	I think, I don't know if she's the most beautiful woman.
	I've probably seen more attractive women than her.
	I think she is very attractive.
	Yep, she's really pretty.
	I guess what I'm trying to make is that I think men seek beauty.
	Beauty can be inspiring.
	And I think maybe it's nice to sort of try and be a little bit prettier.
	Like I'm not against women like up until a point until it's like absolute lies and bullshit.
	It's nice.
	I think men like beautiful women.
	And I think as long as I think that's nothing wrong with that.
	I mean, I want to ask the chat this, Nick, if you can pull up the chat.
	Well, okay, I know, guys, I know she's 41 now, but I'm talking, you know, when, and she's a little younger.
	And I don't think she got married or had children, so she's an older.
	Maybe, hey, Kristen Kruik, I'm available.
	She fries her eggs.
	Okay, so chat.
	Do you prefer women with plastic surgery or without?
	So with plastic surgery, without.
	With, without, with, without.
	I personally prefer without BBL, lipo, fake boobs, lip filler.
	Kelly dronated $100.
	Question: At what point do you think it is a lie?
	At what point do you think it is a lie?
	Like how much possible?
	That's a lot of withouts.
	That's a lot.
	I just want to make a point, and I'm probably going to offend a lot of men, but I think the pool of men which you take these surveys from are not the happiest of men with women.
	Do you think well-adjusted, happy men want a woman who's pumped full of chemicals and has and spending tens of thousands of dollars on surgeries and is potentially what I'm trying to say?
	But your argument is, well, your pool of men are unhappy.
	What's your evidence for that?
	I think the men who watch this show don't seem like they seem like they're struggling.
	I don't think a man who is really.
	Your evidence is your feelings.
	Wait.
	I'm making assumptions.
	I'm making a little bit of a sense of that.
	Your evidence is I think if we tested it, I could be true Wait, let's Let's just assume.
	Like, let's assume what you're saying is true, though.
	Wouldn't a man who's really struggling with dating be more willing to accept a woman who's undergone plastic surgery?
	Because for a man to say, for a man to say, well, I want to exclude this subset of women excludes them as potential partners.
	So that means they're demonstrating a higher level of selectivity.
	Excuse me.
	So can you make the argument that if a man's struggling, he's in less of a position to be sexually selective with women?
	I would make the point that they've probably been through so much rejection that they want to reject themselves to make themselves feel better.
	That's a reach.
	So they're just conveniently only rejecting the women with fake tits and BBLs.
	Is that?
	No, I'm not saying that.
	I'm saying that, yeah, maybe it feels nice to react to.
	I don't know, chat.
	Are you guys just traumatized?
	Is it the trauma that you is that why?
	Yeah, I mean, where did you come up with this?
	Where are you coming up with it?
	Like, other than I just think this because I feel this way, where are you coming up with this stuff?
	It's just an assumption I'm making.
	What if I told you that I actually surveyed my viewers and they're all 6-3 giga chads with massive peens and they're super rich and they have a bunch of crypto and they're super charismatic and funny and they're super dope and they're the happiest from anywhere on earth.
	And none of them have any STDs and they're great people.
	I'm sure there are a solid household.
	One in the chat if that's you.
	One in the chat if that's you.
	Just saying.
	Like, I think we're going to see a lot of ones in the chat here of all these men who are like these 6'3 giga chads.
	Look at all these fucking legends in the chat.
	Well look.
	There you go.
	All right, I'm proven wrong.
	There you go.
	didn't get all of their stats from an outback steakhouse, Brian, so there's that.
	But so, okay, hold on.
	So, look, I would like to see.
	I'm going to, here's a hot take.
	When I run for mayor of Santa Barbara, Morgan, are you going to be my political advisor for my campaign?
	You know what?
	I will be your political adventure.
	You'll be my chief of staff, maybe.
	There we go.
	Yep.
	When I run for mayor of Santa Barbara, I'm going to outlaw plastic surgery in the county.
	Oh, no, no.
	My mayor, okay, sorry, city of Santa Barbara, outlawed.
	What do you think about that?
	I think that's, you know, outlawed.
	I don't really.
	Banned.
	Yeah, that'd be great for like, because it'd be all natural women, and they all probably feel a lot comfortable.
	Check this out.
	That's nice.
	Plastic surgeons, straight to jail.
	Straight to jail.
	Straight to jail.
	What if someone gets in like a horrific car accident?
	That's okay.
	That's okay.
	So we're going to be able to do that.
	They can't change it.
	Yeah.
	Oh my God, I'm starting.
	Sorry.
	So when we're talking about cosmetic surgery, it's like purely making a change.
	Yeah, yeah, it's not.
	Okay, if you've had severe burns or an injury, disease, and that's fine.
	Or what if you're born with like disfiguration?
	Like exactly.
	Like a cleft lip.
	Yeah, that's okay.
	That's okay.
	But if you want to implant triple F titties, sorry.
	I think that's, if you get voted in, you should make your own utopia.
	That's good luck.
	Good luck to you.
	People in the chat are saying that's anti-freedom.
	When did I ever say I believed in democracy?
	I'm a democracy disrespecter.
	I believe in an authoritarian.
	No, I'm an authoritarian.
	Yes.
	I'm going to seize the reins of power and I'm just going to change everything.
	Yeah.
	I'm sure a lot of men will be.
	It'll be a dictatorship.
	It'll be great.
	Tiny titties.
	It's perfect.
	I love it.
	Thank you.
	Sign me up.
	But okay, so what do we disagree on here on the plastic surgery thing?
	I don't know.
	I feel like it's being beaten to death.
	Sorry, another bad.
	Okay, I'll just, yeah, we'll move on.
	I'll just say, I have a speech I want to give.
	Meg, what I see is an assault against the physical and mental health of our mothers, sisters, daughters, girlfriends, wives, and all women.
	The cosmetic industry, it's a nearly half a trillion-dollar global industry.
	As men, we are protectors, and that extends beyond just immediate physical threats, but threats of body and mind.
	My view is that plastic surgery and cosmetic use is a threat to body.
	And the bombardment of advertisement aimed at making women feel less than if they don't wear this much makeup or get this bullshit procedure is an attack on their psyche and their physical and mental health.
	So we as men, as obvious protectors, we have a duty to protect women and the duty to let women know they're beautiful and attractive and sexy without any of that bullshit plastic.
	That's lovely.
	That's really nice.
	You're welcome.
	You're welcome.
	Big Labia Matter.
	Hashtag.
	Hashtag Big Labia Matter.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Moving on to the next thing.
	Oh my God.
	Sorry, guys.
	Hey, yo, guys, before you move on, before you move on.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Because I don't know if I'll ever get the opportunity to say this again on this show, so I'll do it in the best voice that I possibly can.
	Uh-oh.
	Shut up, Meg.
	What?
	I just have always wanted to say that, and if the opportunity came up, so I was able to say it.
	Family guy, I appreciate it.
	All right.
	Have you ever had a meg on the show before?
	I'm going to read this really quick.
	Blondie thinks it's harder because they see high-value men all the time.
	1950s women weren't DMing Sinatra.
	Yeah, hypergamy has been gamed.
	99% of women have always been with simple men.
	Thank you, Olympia Marketing, for your super chat.
	Really appreciate it, man.
	Oh, we have to do it.
	Truth Bomb donated $100.
	I will say I'm very sad sitting on my eight-figure net worth.
	I use this show for a good laugh.
	It was a nice thought, though.
	Christ is king.
	Wow, that's beautiful, Truth Bomb.
	Thank you.
	Eight-figure net worth.
	Oh.
	Was it Doge?
	Was it Doge or was it Shiba Inu?
	What was it?
	Truth Bomb, tell us.
	Okay.
	And then we have Jay Eken.
	It's been said before: men fall in love with looks.
	That's why women wear makeup.
	Women fall in love with words.
	That's why men lie.
	Yes.
	Oh, that's poetic.
	It's Shakespeare over here.
	Hold on, Jay.
	Thank you there.
	Let me read this other chat here that we have from.
	We've got Stochastic Decay, hashtag Brian Alex2024.
	I was born in France, so does that preclude me from running for president?
	Am I precluded?
	Well, it depends.
	Did you have one naturalized parent?
	Well, so I have a U.S. citizenship.
	My mom's a U.S. citizen.
	It doesn't matter if you have U.S. citizenship.
	Did one of your parents have U.S. citizenship?
	Yeah, my mom.
	Though then, yeah, you're not precluded.
	Oh.
	I thought you had to be born on U.S. soil or something.
	You were born in Freya.
	Were you born on the US?
	Ouija Pofano.
	Oh, my God.
	You have to be born.
	Well, I mean, if that was the case, then soldiers overseas would have all kinds of things.
	Well, look, in any case, it really is irrelevant because I'm going to stage a coup d'état.
	So who cares about the Constitution or whatever?
	It's just going to be a coup d'état.
	I'll just fucking, like I said, we'll seize the reins of power by force if necessary.
	I mean, you know, so by the way, that's not, I'm for the fucking DOJ.
	That's a joke, okay?
	I'm hearing a lot of President Atlas over here right now.
	There we go.
	Pepe Silva, Brian, shave your beard and show that week, John Line from the Dad Bod.
	Admit your beard grooming is the man's version of makeup.
	Love the podcast, but got it, but call out hypocrisy when I see it.
	Look, I mean, you I have photos of me on my Instagram without the beard.
	I've got videos of me dating back 10 years without the beard.
	The beard's pretty new in so I'm not, I feel like in that scenario, I'm not really hiding anything, but I do have the dad bod, that's for sure.
	I'm working on it, though.
	I'm trying to lose it, trying to lose it.
	And I don't think the beard to makeup comparison is really that fair, though.
	I don't think that's a fair comparison to make because, and arguably, like I've made this argument before, if what we're judging on physical attractiveness, I would argue the top 50% of your face is what's going to be deemed, like, is what's going to be make or break in terms of your physical attractiveness as compared to the bottom 50% of your face.
	So, uh, well, also considering that facial hair on men is natural, what makeup isn't right.
	Hair is natural, whereas makeup is paint.
	So, so, yeah.
	Okay, let's see what else.
	Oh, we were, what were we getting into?
	We were, uh, was I, wait, I was reading a chat.
	Holy shit, I got lost here.
	Uh, at what point do you think it is a lie?
	That was from Hilly Jr.
	I think we did that.
	Okay, we have women are better than men at child rearing.
	I don't think I've actually argued that.
	Maybe Andrew did.
	I had someone say, I don't know if it's grade one motorsports, or I haven't seen him at all.
	But, um, yeah.
	Tell me, did someone say that?
	Do you want to argue about that?
	I don't know.
	I would, well, okay.
	The only thing I have to say on this is that when you look at single mothers versus single fathers, children coming from single-father households tend to fare better.
	So.
	Fare better, how?
	Less.
	Their outcomes, their outcomes in life are better.
	They do better from educational standpoints.
	They do better from less prison sentences.
	They do better outcome-based if they're raised by a single father versus a single mother.
	From what age?
	Did they have their mother at the start?
	No, we're talking very young children.
	Like, how old?
	Yeah, even down to infants.
	So a single father looking after a baby has better outcomes than a single mother looking after it.
	Just on average.
	On average.
	And have these studies been showing, like, when they're adults?
	Like, how long?
	Yeah, well, that's what they're doing, right?
	They're following these children.
	How long is the study?
	Yeah, I'm trying to explain it.
	Okay, so they're following these children from infancy into adulthood, and they're looking at the outcomes.
	Some of them are 30-plus years.
	But it used to be that feminists would make the argument, so I can give you an argument for yourself if you want one, but what feminists used to argue is that, well, that's because there's a whole hell of a lot more men who are in the custody of a single mom.
	But that has changed over the years.
	Now there's a lot more men who are getting custody of their children than there used to be, and we still see similar outcomes.
	So, yeah, that's what Brian is alluding to.
	Is it just one study?
	Well, okay, so.
	No, it's a multitude of studies.
	There's even been meta-analyses.
	What period of time?
	Because this is a problem.
	Well, it depends on what you're referencing specifically, but it's not very difficult.
	Go.
	Oh, Andrew, I was just going to say, I think the easiest way to tackle this is just look at criminality.
	Yeah, well, I was just going to bring that up.
	It's not very difficult if you judge on outcomes just on education and criminality.
	What are other things that you would be looking for as markers?
	What's happening here?
	Nothing, nothing, nothing.
	I'm really curious about the studies because it's really hard to do a study for that long.
	I've never heard of any studies that have been informed.
	Yeah, well, I mean, and have been shown validity.
	Have you?
	Yeah.
	What are they called?
	Who did it?
	Well, give me a second and I can pull them all up for you.
	But what would be the point of doing that?
	Hang on.
	What would be the point of doing that when you can't access?
	Stop talking and let me finish.
	What would be the point of doing that if you have no reference point?
	The point of doing what?
	Giving you a study that you can't reference right now.
	You said you have a study.
	I'm asking you what.
	Yeah, I know, but what would I do with it?
	Do you want me to FedEx it to you?
	Like, how would that help you right now, even if I provided the data for you?
	If you're going to engage in this, you can say, listen, I don't know of any of these studies, and that's fine to do.
	You can hang on.
	Stop. Stop.
	Let me finish, and then I'll let you talk.
	Just let me finish what I'm saying.
	Okay, sure.
	Okay.
	You can say, I don't have the information on this, and that's fine.
	There's not a problem with that.
	Or you can say, I've not read the data.
	That's fine, too.
	But at least give some kind of logical argument back.
	Me just citing a study to you, which I can do.
	I can pull up the data for you.
	But what good does that do you in your position?
	You can't look at it.
	I can look at it later.
	Okay, well then I'll send it over later.
	Would you like the references now?
	Yeah.
	I mean, this is not something.
	Okay, we'll pull them up.
	Sure.
	And I think one study.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Do you think in a two-parent household, fathers tend to have the role of disciplinarian?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And mothers tend to what?
	Nurture.
	Okay.
	So perhaps it might be the case in a single mother household, a mother might be more likely to be a double-blinder.
	Well, you can find this.
	All the references are actually right here, but you can also reference Rachel Wilson's substack.
	There's 45 years of data that this is what it's called, disproving the myth that husbands are the abusers.
	We can start with that.
	Included in that substack are multiple studies, including a meta-analysis which followed children.
	And they were looking at the outcomes over a multitude of years.
	You can also find an easy reference point which guides all these studies from Medium.
	Medium did this as well and showed how the outcomes for males coming from these single parent homes were better than females.
	Now, Medium itself is an article you can reject, but they do cite the data in the actual article.
	Here, let's not get too much into the weeds.
	But so if there was evidence, statistics were to back up, for example, that children coming from single father households as compared to single mother households, if the data showed that women were far likely to get into sex work donated $100.
	A father figure instills respect in a child.
	Women instill emotions and care.
	Question for the panel.
	Are men necessary in a relationship?
	If not, why?
	Yes.
	Going around the table really quick.
	Are men necessary in a relationship?
	Yes.
	Gustavo?
	Oh, absolutely, yeah.
	Yes, and I've had this personal story on this myself.
	Okay.
	Yeah, nuclear families, everything.
	Yes, I agree.
	So if there was a stat or study that showed that children growing up in single-father households as compared to single-mother households, that the children were less likely to get involved in sex work or less likely to become criminals, would that be convincing for you?
	I mean, it would change my entire worldview because traditionally, a mother is the best.
	A man can't be a better mother than a woman.
	What?
	I think a child needs a mother and a father.
	And you're saying that I think children need a mother at the very beginning of their life, up until, like, very much more than a father, at least until eight.
	Especially.
	Why till eight, specifically?
	I think that's probably when they start to go out into the world a little bit and sort of start to break away from their mother.
	Is that eight?
	I mean, it's gradually their whole entire life.
	Elementary school, I was fucking rebelling.
	It's crazy.
	Yeah, well, I mean, it's just, it's weird.
	Like, I understand your thought process of saying infants who are being breastfed, they need to have their mother at least for the, you know, first, what, you know, 18 months or whatever it is that you're breastfeeding the kid.
	But outside of this, external to that, what do they need the mom for exactly?
	For love.
	You need the love of your mother.
	Yeah, but you can get the love of your father.
	It's not the same love.
	Wow.
	Yeah, no, I get it, but we're just talking in what's optimal, right?
	So, I'm saying I agree with you that mommy and daddy at home is the best scenario.
	There's no if, ands, or buts about it.
	But if you had to choose between a single-parent household, if the preference is man or woman, that's what the question is.
	So, can I add something to this?
	Sure.
	Okay.
	So, I had a my daughter's 18, so for 14 years, I was a single parent, and I was not doing very good with her because I was the only one working, and the only thing I could provide was emotion.
	And I tried discipline, but girl and girl, discipline is like hard.
	Maybe even for a boy, it'd be hard for a mother to a son.
	When I met my husband, he came in and brought that stability into the household, the discipline, and the other half of what I was missing.
	And now, my daughter, through working with her and all that, now she's- That's great.
	That's wonderful.
	I think that's like a personal child needs a man, a father, and a mother.
	Yeah, definitely.
	Brian Johnson actually donated $100.
	I hope you mean eight months.
	Well, for the sake of time, we can't linger on this one for too long, but and I don't really, this is not a like I said, just like I was just throwing something out as a demonstration.
	However long it takes, it's going to be only in the early life of the infant.
	Yeah.
	So, whatever that may be, eight months, nine months, ten months, whatever it is.
	Can I just say one thing?
	Can I end it?
	Can I say something?
	Sure, sure.
	I just, these studies, I asked about the age because I think, yes, a mother is needed more than a father early on.
	And if they don't have a mother at the start of their lives, it can be significantly detrimental to them later on.
	Well, you asked him for a study.
	Do you have a study for that?
	That's a traditional value.
	It's worked centuries that a mother and a mother has done a motherly role and a father has done a father.
	A two-parent household is not a matter of time.
	No, yes, I never said the two-parent household isn't optimal.
	That is optimal.
	But your position is that.
	My position is that a father can't be a better mother than a mother.
	Yeah, but a mother can't be a better father than a father.
	So the question still remains as to whether or not the outcomes of the child raised by a single mother or single father, which one is more optimal.
	And the data is against you, not against me.
	I think, like, up until a certain age, yes, the mother becomes less and less needed.
	What age?
	You just came up with eight.
	That was arbitrary, though, right?
	Yeah, okay, anywhate.
	Anyway, a mother being, a mother is needed a lot at the start, and then the father is needed a bit longer just to kind of push the kid out because the mother's very like protective and doesn't want the kid to go, you know, off into the world.
	And the father's meant to discipline and be like, you're fine, and push them out into the world.
	I'm just saying, I'm not saying anything that groundbreaking.
	So then, so then, would you say then that fathers probably provide for better outcomes for children in single-parent households?
	I moved out of home when I was 15.
	I lived with my dad, and that was, I was great.
	I loved my dad was so in your personal experience, then, would you say it?
	Yeah, so even in your personal experience.
	I was my mother at the start of my life, and my father could not have provided that role.
	So, this is actually an excellent segue because absent data, and I don't expect you to have any, and you're at a disadvantage because you can't look it up.
	So, I'm not going to hold any of that against you.
	But even from your own personal purview, it is true that a single-father household was better for you.
	You're not, I think, I think, I don't know what we're arguing.
	I feel like you have, I don't feel like we're arguing the same thing.
	I feel like you should answer my question.
	I feel like you're trying to entrap me.
	I feel like I don't care how you feel, and you should answer my question.
	So from your own personal purview, from your own personal experience, the single father household was better, right?
	I think when I was young, I needed my mother, and when I got older, I needed my father.
	Yeah, that doesn't answer my question.
	Can you just answer it?
	You can say that.
	Try this word, yes, or try this other word.
	No.
	You can try one of those.
	Go on.
	She wants you to restate the question.
	What's that?
	She wants you to restate the question.
	Okay, well, I'll restate the question.
	So, from your own purview, your purview, you, your own personal experience, absent studies.
	Was the single father household better than the single mother household?
	My mother wasn't a single mother.
	She had a stepdad.
	Okay, great.
	And which one did you end up living with?
	My dad.
	Okay, and was it better?
	Um, it was different.
	I definitely needed my dad there.
	Oh, it was different.
	So you moved in there because you just wanted something different.
	Look.
	My argument.
	No, no, you look.
	You just moved in there because you wanted something different.
	My argument is you're twisting my words, and you twist everyone's words.
	You're not going to be able to do it.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	I'm just twisting your own words against you.
	What a psycho.
	Now, answer my question.
	Did you just call me a psycher?
	What do you say?
	Well, you have to.
	The problem is, you can't hear me over your own mouth.
	What I'm saying to you specifically is this: me using your words and quoting them back to you is not me doing something wrong, and it's not twisting anything.
	You're twisting my words.
	Here, let me.
	I don't think we're going to make any progress on that.
	Let me move it on.
	I just normally don't read these.
	Serahi, if you want, just send.
	You got to.
	If you don't have IG, normally we do all our talent recruitment through Instagram at whatever.
	Can you create an Instagram?
	Or I suppose you can email Brian or whatever.
	Living on this core donated $100.
	Lexi, I actually think you are a traditional girl.
	I looked at your Instagram and you can't even completely see your butthole.
	We are very proud.
	Love dad.
	Okay.
	Thank you for that.
	Thank you for that.
	Here are shifting gears here.
	Shifting gears.
	We're going to get through these guys.
	You said women should date multiple men at a time.
	I didn't say have sex with.
	Don't have sex with them.
	Date them.
	Date multiple.
	How many?
	When you say multiple men.
	Three.
	Three men.
	Is more would be okay, though?
	As long as you're not.
	I think it would be way too hard to date more than three men at a time.
	Okay.
	So, I mean.
	Solfist donated $100.
	Thank you, thank you.
	All of society's degenerates were raised by single mothers.
	Criminals, sex workers, drug addicts, alcoholics, etc.
	A single mom cannot stop her teenage boy if he decides he no longer wants to listen.
	I think we need dads.
	We need dads.
	Single moms are bad.
	We need dads.
	Thank you, Sulphist, for that.
	So you said that women should date multiple men at a time.
	Should men date multiple women at a time?
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, I mean, I'll give you my point of view on this.
	If I was dating a girl and she told me that she was dating other men, that would be a goodbye.
	And I don't know if we talked about this when you're in.
	Like, if it's like you're going on a first date and you just went on a first date last week, or oh, you're you've been seeing this girl now for a whole month.
	You've gone on three dates.
	You're gone on three dates with three other girls.
	Like, I feel there's a there's a spectrum.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So I'm a loyalist Absolutist.
	So you go on a date with one girl?
	She has to be single.
	Properly single.
	How recently, if she went on a first date on the week before your first date.
	How recently can she have last been on a date?
	Look, maybe I should show her.
	But I'm also, I'm also a loyalist.
	I only date one man at one time.
	Yeah.
	So if here, okay, here's the easiest way for me to explain this.
	If I go on the first date with you and you want to go on a second date with me, it has to be a wrap with those other dudes.
	So I can at least, I'll give you a little leeway if there was, you know, if you were sleeping with another guy and I went on the first date with you, dumb.
	I think if a woman starts sleeping with a guy, she shouldn't be dating other men.
	That's the leeway I'll give.
	But if I go on the first date with you and you want to see me again, it's got to be done with those other dudes.
	Bare minimum.
	On the second date.
	No, if, okay, if I go on the first date with you and you want to see me again, you can't be going on another date.
	what promises why why Why does a woman have to give up all her choices?
	Are you going to be going on another second date?
	I fucking am a sniper.
	I'll laser in on a chick.
	If I like her, I like her, and that's it.
	Well, how does she know that?
	I'm going to tell her.
	What does that mean?
	Fuck, I'll tell her before the first date.
	I'll see how far I can push the boundary.
	I'll be like, yeah, I don't want you talking to other dudes.
	See, I think that's respectful.
	First message.
	Hi, nice to meet you.
	Nice to meet you.
	I'm Brian.
	You must swear off all other men.
	In fact, even if we only go on a date and it doesn't go anywhere, you have to join the nunnery.
	If you're being exclusive.
	That's how fucking extremist.
	I'm a fucking extremist on this shit.
	you are saying that you want to be exclusive with her and and so you're not dating anyone else and she's not gonna then she's that's what's up Then they both agreed that you don't want to date anyone else.
	And that seems fine.
	That's...
	A shizzle.
	Yeah.
	I think like third date in.
	A woman shouldn't be seeing more than like another, like maybe two people at the same time.
	Because I think if you're investing your time into actually going on a date with a man, you're showing him interest.
	And after a first date, if you don't want to go on a second date, like you're done.
	But you shouldn't be seeing, I think, three to four men and entertaining multiple men at the same time.
	I think you're...
	I think you go and you date three men, go on three dates.
	If you don't like him after three dates, you toss him.
	And then you...
	If I'm trying to schedule a date with a girl I like for Friday night, for Friday evening, and she's like, sorry, I'm dating, I'm going on a date with another guy.
	Okay.
	It's over.
	That's fair.
	That's like, that's fair.
	If you don't want to wait, she doesn't.
	I'm not.
	I don't want it.
	That's cool.
	I don't think women should be dating multiple men.
	I think they should have one, they should date one guy three dates.
	Give him three dates if you don't like him.
	Oh, that's not dating men, like multiple men.
	I don't think you should date three men for like forever.
	You should give him three dates.
	And if you don't like him, you should tell him.
	And then until you find the one you want to marry.
	More than one person at the same time?
	Look, you can do what you want, but like, again, I'm a fucking extremist on this, I guess.
	Hold on.
	Killy dronated $100.
	Monogamy is dead.
	The future doesn't look good.
	Brian is spot on.
	Nothing hurts more than her lying to you, and the one guy you worried about is the first person she runs to after it do work.
	Also, to add to this, kind of the anecdote I gave before, like, I want a girl who is not encumbered with some like psycho ex or any of that shit.
	I want a girl who's properly single.
	So that can mean there's not some fucking weirdo ex in the picture all the way to she's just not entertaining other dudes casually.
	Even for casual date, like not even hooking up.
	Certainly, like if she's having sex with another dude, not interested.
	I don't think she's interested.
	I've lost interest.
	Hook up, have kiss, be physical with a guy.
	Okay, but even if she's just like talking to another dude, I want, let me, again.
	Exclusively.
	Maybe this was, maybe that, I don't even think it's extremist.
	This is how things just normally used to be, but shit is so fucked up now.
	I want a woman's undivided romantic and sexual attention as early on as possible.
	Of course you do.
	Of course, every guy wants that.
	Of course.
	Why do you deserve that?
	What do you mean?
	Why do I deserve it?
	What are you giving her?
	Are you giving.
	Are you going to marry her?
	You're going to have babies with her?
	What?
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Go ahead, Morgan.
	I was going to say, if a man is properly pursuing a woman and initiating a date, going on a date, then a man would receive that loyalty, I think, from a woman.
	That is just what a woman should do if she is also interested in that man, to where I don't think a woman even needs to be talking to and entertaining three to four men at the same time, going on three dates, and like, didn't work out.
	I'm going to toss them.
	Like, you can find that out with just one man and being, you know, I'm going to be intentional in talking to one person at a time and devoting that time to that person, getting to know them.
	All right.
	Well, I think women don't have as much that much time.
	I think they should date three guys.
	Three dates.
	Three guys, three dates.
	I mean, if it works for you guys, I'm just speaking from, and again, I'm probably an outlier in this regard.
	I don't have time for love.
	A lot of men tolerate a lot of bullshit, but me personally, like my kind of position is, like, I'm going to be entering your life like a fucking whirlwind.
	There's not going to be this, like, this, like, probationary period for three months where we're fucking other people.
	No.
	Boom.
	I meet you.
	It's fucking on.
	That's it.
	That's nice.
	That's a nice way to date.
	I don't know how I could talk to three men at the same time if I'm being so honest.
	Like, I could not entertain and go on different dates in three dates with three men and trying to coordinate that.
	That's, I think, harming a woman more than helping her.
	I personally agree with that.
	I mean, going back into what we were just talking about, I mean, I think I would be upset if I knew the guy I was going on a second, third date with is dating other people and taking them on dates.
	That would make me feel some type of way.
	I came in like a wrecking ball.
	Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
	All right, then.
	Good luck to you guys.
	I hope you guys find someone.
	Well, I mean, if you go on a third date with a man, right?
	And then he's saying, oh, yeah, like, I actually have two more dates this weekend with these other women.
	I'm not really sure how I feel about you because I'm also going on these dates with these two other women.
	How would that make you feel?
	He hasn't promised me sexual exclusivity.
	He hasn't presented like.
	Well, you're not having sex, but I mean, if you knew that the guy you were interested in was also seeing three other women.
	That's pretty common.
	If he hasn't made a commitment to me, then he's free to do what he wants.
	Yeah, I am kind of curious here.
	Can you tell me why there would actually be a moral problem?
	This is to TPUSA.
	Can you tell me why there would actually be a moral problem with a woman dating multiple men if she wasn't physically engaging with them?
	If she was just looking at her various suitors and trying to determine which one she preferred to be with.
	I mean, she could.
	Anyone could do whatever they want, but I mean, even.
	I know she can.
	We've established she can.
	So let me re-ask the question.
	What is the actual moral problem with her doing so if she's not engaging in a physical relationship with them?
	If she's not engaging with a physical relationship with them, there's not necessarily a moral problem with a woman going on multiple dates.
	But I've seen cases of women being serial daters where they constantly are going on multiple dates with multiple different men or entertaining relationships and talking to multiple different men.
	And none of them are really working out because I feel like women are so quick to have like a fear of a better option to where instead of actually devoting time and getting to know somebody intentionally, they're instead just going to the next date and someone else who's new and shiny.
	You mean like leading them on?
	You're talking about leading them on.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but that would be kind of nefarious.
	Assuming she's not leading them on, she's just looking for the best suitor.
	And so she dates multiple men, but they're actually just dating.
	Dating doesn't, it doesn't have the modern connotation of sleeping with you.
	They're just actually going on dates.
	And she, let's say she's dating six at the same time to find the best suitor.
	What's the actual problem with that?
	I mean, if it's a first date, if you're going on six first dates, I don't see an issue with that.
	It's when you're starting to continue that relationship and getting to know a person that that's when you would need to shift your mindset in devoting time to actually intentionally getting to know that person.
	But that's just my personal opinion.
	Morally, if a woman's going on six first dates, no, there's nothing morally wrong with that.
	If there's no sexual interactions going on, there's getting to know a person, then fine.
	But when you get to that second, third, fourth date time period and you're talking offline, you're not just talking in person on a date, then you are devoting and spending time and effort with that person and wanting to get to know them.
	So I think I would agree with you here to an extent that if you map it onto reality, that women probably aren't going to be dating multiple men if it's not to lead them on or to get some sort of resource or something like this.
	I understand that.
	I'm just curious from your purview if they're actually doing something wrong if there's no nefarious intention behind it.
	No, which that's where I agree.
	There is if a woman is going on multiple first or second dates, I will say second dates.
	At the third date, you should know, you know, who the suitors are.
	But first and second date, if you're going on a couple of first and second dates, no, there is nothing physically or morally wrong with that scenario.
	Oh, Natalia.
	Oh, it's our friend Natalia.
	Hey, Natalia, thank you so much for the gift of 20 memberships.
	You're a legend.
	Always love seeing your comments after the videos.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it, Natalia.
	Actually, I want to come back to something you said.
	So I said, I want a woman's.
	oh my god how am i blanking on the thing i just said what did i say about uh exclusive romantic and sexual no but it's not exclusive What's the word I used?
	Is it exclusive?
	Hold on, let me Google this thing.
	One sec, guys.
	Hold on.
	Somebody sing a song really quick while I'm Googling this shit.
	Undivided.
	Thank you, Nick.
	You're a fucking legend.
	Okay, I said, I want a woman's undivided sexual and romantic attention immediately.
	And you're like, well, why do you deserve that?
	And I actually think that I'm giving a girl a better deal, actually, than the reverse.
	What are you giving?
	How many women complain about these guys are commitment phobic?
	They don't want to commit.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	They just want to fuck around and be players.
	You're giving me a little.
	I actually think that I'm giving you exactly what you want.
	So you can hop on the ride or you can get off.
	I think that's, if you are so sure about a girl and that you.
	So it's not about what I deserve.
	Really?
	Why do I deserve it?
	When you said, I want this from a woman.
	Yes.
	I didn't know what you were giving in return.
	If you're going to give a lifetime commitment to her, take care of.
	No, not lifetime commitment.
	That's not what we're talking about, though.
	Dating.
	That's what women date for.
	Well, most women.
	How am I supposed to give a lifetime commitment?
	I don't really understand.
	I think I can bridge the gap here.
	I think I see what she's saying.
	So your question back, you're asking, why is it that a woman should give you her undivided attention if she's dating multiple suitors, she can find the one who's going to give her a lifetime commitment?
	Did I get that right?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So then what Brian's saying is, well, look, if it's me, I think that I'm enough of a prize or I have enough that I'm giving immediately that I don't want to have the competition of other men that I'm competing with.
	And the kind of woman who would string me along to give me competition with other women, I don't want to be involved in.
	And you, as the person who wants his resources, you would want to take that into consideration, right?
	Because that would be exactly the type of steadfast man you would want a woman to be with for the rest of her life.
	I don't want resources for like a short time.
	I want it forever.
	That's what I want a full-yeah, I know.
	But the kind of man who wants your undivided attention is the type of man who's probably the most likely to give you those resources forever, right?
	Most likely, yeah.
	But nothing is that.
	So then his point is that that's checkmate for Brian then.
	Is it?
	Okay.
	Yeah, that would be checkmate for Brian.
	So if it's most likely true that the type of man who wants your undivided attention is also the type of man who's the most likely to give you all those resources for your lifetime, then it seems like you would want a man who you gave your undivided attention to.
	Most likely just doesn't cut it.
	If I can add something here, so I do think that perhaps my paradigm is both an old one and a new one, insofar as my view on this is probably was actually perhaps fairly standard decades ago, but now it's kind of new because there's this expectation that, well, people are just out there dating multiple people.
	I certainly know on dating apps, the expectation is going to be this person's dating multiple people.
	You're lucky if they're not sleeping with one other person, and that's kind of a tragic thing.
	But it's this new paradigm, but an old paradigm.
	And shit, I lost my train of thought.
	Fuck.
	God damn it.
	Fucking.
	Wait, okay.
	So hold on, hold on.
	I got this.
	I can do this.
	Get it fucking together, Brian.
	Okay.
	And so it, it.
	Fuck.
	Okay, take it away, Andrew.
	I'll get it back.
	But you got Andrew.
	Should we go to the next point?
	Soon.
	Very soon.
	But you're trying to.
	Oh my God.
	I totally lost my train of thought.
	Checkmate himself.
	No, I didn't checkmate myself.
	I just totally lost my train of thought, which is kind of like a message.
	That's a mulligan.
	We're going to call that a mulligan.
	That's a mulligan.
	That's a mulligan.
	I was arriving at some point, but I totally forgot.
	It'll probably come to me in five minutes when we're talking about some other shit.
	But wait, it was.
	Oh, thank you, Avycheck.
	Okay, let me think about this more.
	Fuck, it didn't come to me.
	All right, we're going to move on.
	Okay, so hang on, Hangan.
	I can jog your memory.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So here's where we were at.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I was saying that if it's true that she feels like the type of man who's the most likely to give her long-term resources would be the kind of man who wants and desires her attention exclusively, then I don't really understand what her argument is because from your perspective, that's exactly what you want to be is that man.
	Yes.
	So you're providing a lifetime commitment.
	No?
	What the f what?
	Well, no, but he would be the most likely type of man who would, if he wanted your undivided attention and was giving you the resources right now, he would be the most likely to do that long term.
	Why should she stop looking for other men when she might find another guy who will give her a lifetime commitment?
	Like Men.
	Well, the problem, well, how would she determine which type of man is going to give her a lifetime commitment?
	It wouldn't be on the first date, right?
	So if the type of man who's going to give her a lifetime commitment, wouldn't that be exactly the type of man who would say, I want exclusivity?
	I think you need to get to know a person to see whether you can trust them.
	And if they say they want to be exclusive and they're looking for a lifetime commitment.
	I'm not saying they promise right there on the third date they want to marry.
	I'm just saying that that's what they're that they're they want to work on together exclusively.
	I think then they should stop dating other people.
	This is kind of weird though because let's assume for a second that you're in this situation where you have three different suitors and one of the two suitors say they're okay with you having the other two suitors.
	They're fine with it.
	They'll compete.
	And one of the suitors says, no, fuck that.
	I'm not competing with nobody.
	I want to date exclusively and that's that.
	And you need to kick these other assholes to the curb.
	Wouldn't that be the guy you would be most likely to think would have the long-term commitment to you?
	I just don't think you can imply that it's reaching a little bit.
	I mean, it's nice that he wants exclusivity.
	That's nice.
	But it's not, he's not, he could just want to have her exclusively for a short time.
	Yeah, but so the other two haven't made any commitment.
	They haven't even, all they've said is, sure, we'll just continuously compete.
	Like, you don't know.
	If that's all the information you have to go off of, wouldn't you go for the guy who wants exclusivity?
	Well, the thing is, we don't have just three men to choose from.
	We've actually got three men at a time.
	If one guy doesn't want to wait, I don't know, not wait, but, like, if one guy just can't provide commitment to a woman and he doesn't want to do that, then she should stop dating him.
	But is an exclusivity commitment?
	Yeah, I guess you need exclusivity.
	You need that, you need a promise, like it's for a future.
	It's like forever.
	You need to decide how much time you're going to spend together.
	Yeah, but I mean, he's not going to say, I'm going to do this forever right away, but saying that I want this to be an exclusive relationship seems like that would be step one on that larger course, right?
	I think it would be a bit of a red, not a red flag, I don't want to say a red flag, but like on a first date, if a guy said, I want to, you're the one, I want to marry you, I would be a little bit more.
	Oh, I wouldn't say that shit.
	So you would date a girl for a few times.
	You said you come into her life like a train or something and be like, you're the one, I want to be, don't be dating any other men.
	So how many dates?
	Well, hopefully she's not dating other dudes even on that first date.
	But I will give a little bit of leeway.
	It's still suboptimal.
	The best scenario is the girl's properly single.
	And then from the get-go, that's the best.
	That will make you more appealing to a man than if he knows that you're just dating other dudes, in my view.
	I mean, like, she's not being physical with any men.
	Don't care.
	Okay.
	Well, that's funny.
	It's up to you.
	If you don't want to, if you want to date a woman who isn't dating any other men.
	I don't want, like, here's the thing, right?
	I don't want a fence sitter.
	And as somebody, I mentioned it before, as somebody who's been on both sides of this, where women will show interest in me.
	I show interest in women.
	I take the initiative.
	They've taken the initiative.
	I want a woman who's like really fucking into me.
	I don't want some chick that it's like she's playing hard to get and it's a chase.
	It's just better if she just light like instantly.
	Let's turn it around.
	Let us assume for a second that you were dating a guy who had four different girls he was dating.
	Would you recommend that the girl who said to him that she wants him to exclusively date, if his goal was long-term commitment, that he go with that one?
	it's up to him really like i don't think men date for i think if a woman was like i want to be exclusive with you and he's and if he felt the same way then he should be exclusive with her no i think he's asking what advice you would give to a woman who's dating a man who's dating five women you Oh, I would be like, don't sleep with him.
	Yeah, right.
	But wouldn't you say that she should put herself in a position where it's exclusive?
	That's the goal, for sure.
	Right.
	if that's the goal then why wouldn't that be the goal for a man as well to say I want exclusivity um I don't I think I'm not saying men that's not the goal I think it's harder for a man to give up sexual exclusivity than it is for a woman to give up that does that make sense Yeah, I don't think men like to.
	Wait, I think we're arguing a little bit past each other.
	So what I'm arguing, I would actually concede to you that in terms of you being able to potentially find or get the bet, hmm, well, find the best guy, it might be better for you as the woman to date multiple men because you have more options.
	However, what I'm saying is, from the guy's perspective, from the guy's view, I would find it more attractive in a woman to learn that she's just dating me or she's not dating a bunch of other dudes.
	I would be much more inclined to just immediately reject her if I know she's dating other men and I wouldn't even bother pursuing her.
	I'm like, eh, you know, it's not worth my time.
	Let me go find a girl who's properly single.
	So that's where you will end up potentially losing out on certain men by, you know, having this sort of conduct where you're just dating around, dating multiple men.
	I hope you're forthcoming about that with potential partners, or men might just assume it.
	But it might, look, it ultimately might be the best move for you, maybe.
	But from a guy's perspective, again, me personally, I don't encourage men to date women who are dating other men.
	I think it's a suboptimal dating move.
	Go find yourself a girl who's properly single.
	That's it.
	Okay.
	I can understand how it would be unappealing if a woman was dating other men.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I can understand that.
	Yeah, precisely.
	So I think what you're arguing is this is what's best for women, and it may very well be, but it's not really what's best, in my view, for men.
	Yeah.
	To date a woman who's dating other men.
	Yeah, I can't.
	And it's 100% my view is my prescriptive view is if she's sleeping with a guy, that's a no-go instantly.
	Of course.
	If there's another guy in the picture sexually, it's a no-go.
	If a woman kisses another guy, she should not date the other men.
	She should not date three men and be physical with them.
	She should just date them and don't do anything physical.
	Just get to know them.
	And then if she likes one, she's like, that's the one I want to focus on.
	She should focus on that one.
	But a lot of men don't even realize some men are just either maybe their dating prospects are lacking, so they're prepared to accept what I view as a sub-optimal arrangement.
	But my strong recommendation to men, your bare minimum, to the men, your bare minimum ought to be you do not entertain any sort of relationship with a woman who's currently engaged in a sexual relationship with another man.
	That's an instant.
	Of course, sexual, yes, done.
	Absolutely.
	But I think women don't.
	It's an instant.
	Yes.
	Out she goes.
	I think women don't have as much time as men.
	So that's why I think I'm, like, encouraging the three-day rule.
	And I don't think women should be physical because I think that is...
	Oh, do you think women should wait until marriage to have sex?
	Maybe that's the next segue here.
	Yeah.
	Why do you say that?
	I mean, I think that's the best option.
	Is that what you've done?
	I don't want to talk about me.
	I'm not talking about relationships.
	That's a no.
	I'm going to say, I'm going to assume that's a no.
	But I'm not talking about me, but I think it's better to do a long courting period and get to know each other.
	I understand that men want that.
	That's like their number one thing.
	But I think women fall in love through sex.
	Good.
	Fall in love.
	Do it.
	Yeah.
	Yes, but we could fall in love with the wrong man.
	So I think when we fall in love, it's through sex.
	And I think when a man falls in love, it's when he's made a commitment.
	So why should a woman give up her power before a man does?
	So you're talking about marriage, waiting until marriage?
	Is that what we're talking about here?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, that's good if you're religious, I suppose.
	I certainly wouldn't recommend a secular man wait until marriage with a secular woman.
	You could make that argument for a religious woman, but.
	I think it's.
	Well, take away religion and just talk about the statistics of pair bonding and body count and all of that meaning something.
	Then if you are getting into a relationship with someone with the intention of possibly being married in the future or a long-term monogamous partner, whatever it is, you know, waiting until that establishment at least of, okay, we're monogamous partners for life slash marriage, same difference.
	Because, you know, holding out until that point, I think, does offer benefits within the relationship.
	Well, we did already have the conversation about marriage and what's the point of a secular marriage and religious marriage.
	Just moving gear, shifting gears here, you said women should be hypergamous.
	So what does it mean to be hypergamous?
	It means dating, choosing the best man, the most high-value man.
	And so is that kind of, that's related to the also women should date multiple men so you can find the highest quality guy?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Women should be hypergamous.
	Huh.
	Should they, though?
	I want to say that I think I said earlier that women are brainwashed and they're not making the best choices of men right now.
	I think that some, I think in society right now, the wrong men are being elevated and given more status.
	And so women are picking sort of what they're being told is good.
	And I don't, and maybe they're not that great.
	Interesting.
	What have they been brainwashed by?
	Like what happened to all the masculine men?
	Feminism.
	Exactly.
	Feminism is just another name for brainwashing.
	It's just this.
	I don't know.
	I don't want to say, you know, them, the matrix, the state, or whatever.
	Whoever's the elite people.
	Yeah, be careful with that one.
	Okay.
	So I don't want to say exactly, but that's what I don't want to go with.
	But anyway.
	Okay.
	Yeah, but you would agree that feminism is part of this massive brainwashing apparatus for women.
	Yes, feminism has been a tool of brainwashing.
	And isn't feminism about female empowerment?
	No.
	Absolutely.
	No, what is feminism about?
	It's about just making women be men, I guess.
	It's kind of empowering women.
	But it's the facade of women's empowerment.
	It's not actual true women's empowerment of embracing femininity.
	The feminist movement has distorted that.
	Wait, one thing really quick.
	This came in, sorry, Jay Miles Reprible.
	It came in, but the TTS didn't trigger.
	Oh, wait, sorry, this one.
	Okay, one sec.
	There it is.
	Yo, Brian and Andrew, please, ladies and thought hogs, what the fuck?
	Watch Larson Farms Millennial Farmer on YouTube.
	Authentic, great people, men like Zach R and Chet will get them.
	What?
	Minnesota men, 3FOs, blank pigs.
	49-year-old farm boy mic drop.
	Wow.
	Okay, that was some Shakespeare shit right there.
	Thank you, Jay Miles.
	Sorry that it didn't trigger the TTS.
	There's a curse word in there, so it didn't trigger.
	Hypergamy?
	Hypergamy and women should be hypergamous.
	Yeah.
	What do you mean they should be hypergamous?
	They should pick the best value man.
	The man provides the most value.
	Do you think what men are?
	Yeah, but that's not what hypergamy is.
	What do you think hypergamy is?
	It means picking the man with the best, who provides the best value.
	Yeah, but that would also include inside of hypergamy that they will do mate replacement, meaning that they'll leave a man for a higher status man, even if they're in a committed relationship with that man.
	I think if a woman's married and she's made a commitment to a man and he's made a commitment to her, she should, and she's had children with him, especially.
	She should stay with him.
	Even if a better mate is not a man.
	Right, so then hang on.
	So then actually what you're saying is that hypergamy needs to be controlled.
	I feel like it's already kind of being controlled a little bit.
	No, I feel like it already kind of isn't being controlled.
	So I want to dive into this a little bit more and ask you: if hypergamy is about mate replacement for higher status men, once you make a commitment, then what you're saying is that an apparatus needs to be in place to control hypergamy.
	Do you mean?
	So women should not be hypergamous.
	As in, like, you're not allowed to get divorced.
	Is that what you mean?
	I'm not saying you're not allowed under some circumstances to get divorced.
	I'm saying that there should be barriers for breaking commitments and penalties for doing so.
	Yeah, I think you should, there should be, you know, like there used to be more shame around getting divorced.
	Usually more societal consequences if you did that.
	So I think that's so keep hypergamy under control is what you're saying.
	That society should do what it needs to do in order to keep female hypergamy under control.
	Yeah.
	If what I just said is what you mean, then yeah, I think.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So then earlier your statement that females should be hypergamous was actually not correct.
	They should not be hypergamous.
	In fact, society should go out of its way to make sure that female hypergamy is kept under control.
	But they should still be hypergamous.
	No, well, okay, well then we're back to this then.
	Why should they be hypergamous?
	Is your definition of hypergamy just to say that at first they should find the best mate that they can and then commit to them for life?
	Yes, that's what I think they should.
	Okay, well then that's not hypergamy.
	Hypergamy is mate selection replacement.
	That is not hypergamy.
	I don't think hypergamy is not interchangeable with promiscuity.
	Okay.
	Yeah, so that's not what hypergamy is.
	So you would actually have a stance against hypergamy.
	All right, then maybe I've made a mistake there.
	If that's the, if that's, I don't know what the, what's the def what's the dictionary definition of hypergamy?
	Oh, hypergamy would just be mate replacement based on resource allocation.
	I think it's.
	Or physical attraction.
	So hypergamy is just woman go with best standard option that she has available at the time.
	Okay, well, I think women should find the most value man, pick him, commit to him for life.
	Not right.
	So even if he gets into a tragic accident and loses his legs, she should stay with him in order to take care of him in a committed relationship and not trade up, right?
	In this individual circumstance, I think she should, that would be nice if her to look after him.
	Right.
	So then that would not be hypergamy then.
	Okay.
	So what's the dictionary definition of hypergamy?
	I just told you.
	What is it?
	I literally just told you what hypergamy is.
	A dictionary.
	Does anyone have any questions?
	Okay, fine.
	You want me to give you a dictionary definition of hypergamy to reaffirm what I already told you it was?
	I'll be close.
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	Yep.
	It's the propensity of individuals to form unions in which the women of lower status than the man.
	Meaning in this case, the woman's going to upgrade her status to the highest status man, which is available.
	It didn't mention replacement in there.
	Okay, so what do you think the propensity of individuals to form unions in which a woman is of lower status than the man is?
	The man would be of higher status, correct?
	Of course.
	Okay, so then if the man became lower status than the woman, the natural inclination of this would, what would be the logical implication of that?
	If your husband became lower status than you, you wouldn't make anything about, it doesn't make anything.
	Okay, one more time.
	The propensity of individuals to form unions in which the woman is of lower status than the man.
	So if the man status drops below the woman, the implication is what?
	It doesn't imply that.
	What does it imply?
	It implies what it said.
	A man in a woman of lower status than women pick high status men, then they make a union.
	That's it.
	That's what the definition is.
	And then if the man falls to a lower status than the woman, and the woman's picking for a higher status man, then what happens?
	You create another word for that because that's not in a different way.
	What is it?
	What would the word be?
	That's not the same thing.
	You need another word for that.
	It's the same fucking thing.
	If the propensity of the woman is to go for the higher status man and you're interjecting that there's a lower status man now, then she would go for the higher status man.
	That's the point.
	Should we move on?
	That's the point.
	I have so many notes.
	I don't even know how you could get anything else from that.
	I have so many notes that I need.
	I want to try to include everybody here.
	There's a lot of notes.
	A lot of notes here.
	Oh, look at that.
	He's lighting up Sigi.
	Okay.
	We have Cha-Cha.
	That was me.
	You said that a guy broke up with you because he said Do you want to tell us the story?
	Broke up with you because.
	I think I said that when we broke up, he took the trash can.
	I think the question was, what was the craziest thing or something like that?
	She broke up with you because he said what?
	I never said anything about what he had said.
	You said a guy, okay, in your pre-show notes, you said a guy broke up with you because he said you were too fat.
	Oh, no.
	Okay, that's a different question.
	No, so I was talking to a guy once, and pretty early on, he said that I was too fat.
	Yeah.
	So I was 130 pounds.
	I could lift like, I think it was like 135.
	I was benching.
	I could run a 16, 17, two mile.
	Is that good?
	Yes, for 4'11, yes.
	It's a 16-minute two-mile.
	Is that good?
	That's eight-minute.
	That's an eight-minute mile.
	Is that good?
	Yeah, 4-11 is 10.
	Is that good?
	Yeah.
	Is an eight-minute mile good?
	Sorry, says that.
	I don't even know if I can run an eight-minute mile.
	Oh, you could do it, Morgan.
	You could do it.
	Yeah, I was pretty fit, you know?
	He said I was too fat.
	So I was like, oh, okay.
	Okay.
	And so you feel like that was wrong or he was, you weren't?
	Because you said you're 4'11 and you were 130 pounds.
	Should we pull up the MBI MBI calculator, Nick?
	BMI.
	BMI, sorry.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, I was probably.
	Nick, do you want to pull that up?
	Sure.
	It does.
	I think there's a tab for it.
	Scroll it up.
	Make it bigger.
	Yeah, you probably need to pull us on the, no, make this bigger, the screen.
	All right.
	Height, 411.
	And then, God, I can't believe I'm doing this.
	Okay.
	Weight, 130.
	Calculate.
	BMI 26.3, indicating your weight is in the overweight category for adults of your height.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	I always have been.
	I'm in the military, so I always had to tape in the military.
	Wait, was he, so he was right?
	No, definitely not.
	Because weight standards need to change.
	But I mean...
	The BMI scale, like I've learned, doesn't consider muscle density.
	And it's like somewhere.
	Wouldn't that apply more so to men than women?
	Because men have more muscle.
	I mean, it can apply to men and women.
	I mean, sure.
	BMI is not perfect.
	From a scientific standpoint.
	Okay, all right.
	Just stuff.
	This is what I've learned.
	I'm just curious.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We have, oh, she's up at the bathroom.
	Let's get Allison.
	We haven't heard much from Allison.
	We got Allison here, right?
	There she is.
	There she is.
	Two months ago.
	Wait.
	Oh, wait.
	Oh, the soccer coach.
	You want to tell us that story?
	Yes.
	So I went on a first date with a guy who's a soccer coach.
	The date went well.
	We just went for a drink.
	And then we were just kind of throwing some questions back and forth.
	Like, what's a non-negotiable for you?
	I can't remember the term off the top of my head.
	Stag.
	Stag.
	So he said, I believe in a stag relationship.
	So I'm thinking, I don't know what that means.
	So I'm thinking you just stay with one person.
	But it turns out that he needed me to be with somebody else, like sexually, before being able to be monogamous with me.
	And he would have to pick that partner.
	And he had like a criteria.
	What?
	It worked.
	Yeah.
	So obviously I ended things after that, but I never heard of what a stag was before.
	So a stag is, he needed to find a man for you to sleep with that he chose and he wanted to watch.
	Correct.
	Yeah, in the same way.
	I'm a semblance of a lot of people.
	So that's a cuck.
	Right.
	Yeah, that's definitely a cuck.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's definitely a cup.
	He just wanted to watch it.
	Sending the astrode on that one.
	And he said it was the only way he could move forward to getting to know you better.
	But you didn't take him up on this, I'm assuming.
	No, not at all.
	All right.
	You also wrote, yes, specifically, you wanted to talk about gender roles, dating in this generation.
	I'm a traditional female and would like a male to lead in a relationship as well as within the dating talking stages.
	Did we do the traditional, not traditional, for your Instagram?
	Fuck it, let's do it.
	Oh, I don't think we did.
	Pull up Allison's Instagram.
	You can also slide into her DMs here if you want.
	She's single and she wants to get beyond the six-month mark.
	It'll happen.
	We have faith.
	Traditional, not traditional.
	Fitness, freedom, faith.
	You're a school counselor, clinical psychologist, and a child advocate.
	All right, scroll down.
	All right.
	Okay, oh, is that a bikini?
	I don't know.
	All right.
	So, Nick, if you can pull up the chat here.
	Not bad.
	Traditional or not traditional, traditional or not traditional, traditional or not traditional.
	Stop lifting weights.
	Red flag.
	Sorry.
	Let's see.
	Too much.
	So much gym.
	Belongs to the streets.
	Squat dough.
	No trad.
	Not bad.
	Not trad.
	Not trad.
	Red flag.
	Thick bru.
	Thick bruh.
	Not traditional.
	Jim rats are red flag.
	Oh, I don't know if a girl who goes to the gym necessarily is a.
	She takes gym rats are never red flags.
	Gym rats are never red flags.
	Somebody said trad. Kelsey.
	Oh, that's a woman, though.
	Okay.
	That's maybe your friend.
	Okay, there you have it.
	I saw a trad.
	Oh, there we go.
	Trad?
	Is it trad or not trad?
	Okay.
	So there's that.
	You want a male to lead.
	Okay, that's no problem there.
	You said modern dating, we are all corrupting the natural process of an organic connection relationship, specifically with dating apps, DMs.
	We are our own worst enemy and always looking for the next best thing.
	Yeah.
	And is that the case for you?
	Like, you're always looking for the next best thing.
	No, but I feel like obviously I fed into it with dating apps and stuff like that.
	So yes, in the past, I have.
	I can't deny that for sure.
	But I'm just looking for all right.
	Got it.
	We had Morgan here.
	Morgan wanted to talk about birth control.
	I haven't done the birth control question.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, we'll go around the table.
	Who here is on birth control?
	Starting with you.
	Not I. Not me.
	No.
	Yes.
	I am.
	Gustavo, what you got?
	Yes.
	You got a vasectomy?
	You got one of those vasectomies or what?
	That aren't reversible.
	Yes.
	No.
	Just curious, which, what, if you find what type of birth control?
	IUD, the pill, Nexplanon, Depot, the shot.
	Nuva, the shot.
	What about what you rocking?
	I'm on the pill for like hormones.
	Like the once a day.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	The newborn birth control.
	Makes sense, okay.
	What about you?
	Yes, I have an IUD.
	Copper or the Morena?
	Is that the hormone?
	I don't think that's copper.
	No, no, no.
	Morena is the hormonal control.
	Morena's hormonal I used to be.
	I should probably know it's my body, but yeah.
	Not on birth control anymore.
	Dope.
	Why are you not a fan of birth control?
	Not a fan.
	Do you want to talk about it?
	Not a fan.
	Yeah, I'll talk briefly about it.
	For the ladies that are on birth control or anyone watching who's on birth control, it is poisoning your body.
	At the end of the day, everyone gets on birth control because they want to regulate their hormones when in reality, the hormones don't need to be regulated.
	We need to be doing things to our body like eating the right foods, you know, staying healthy and not taking a prescription of some kind to regulate that when we're just tricking our bodies.
	And I mean, I think the most fascinating thing about birth control is that our physical attractiveness of who we're attracted to changes when we're on birth control versus off birth control.
	On the pill, when you take your period week, you're tricking your body into having a period when that's not necessarily when you would have it.
	So it's really interesting with just attractiveness.
	Is it really interesting with your hormones, your mood levels?
	I mean, look at how many women are on SSRIs for their anxiety and depression, which may most likely is caused by birth control.
	So there's a lot of issues that we look at with just women's psyches that is caused by birth control, but you never actually are aware of those side effects because doctors just want to continue to make money off of pharma.
	There's my five-second rant.
	Do you think there's been any societal consequences of the pill?
	Societal consequences?
	Absolutely.
	Because now it's actually legal to purchase over-the-counter to where, I mean, you could have 13, 14-year-old girls going into a drugstore to buy birth control because it's the next cool new thing because they just wanted to regulate their hormones.
	And I don't think that's normal.
	I mean, like the invention of the pill, like in the 60s?
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, it was invented for eugenics, going back to even the abortion industry.
	Like the reason that birth control existed in the beginning was because of the eugenics movement, because they didn't want African Americans to reproduce and have children.
	But then, and then, you know, that feeds into the abortion industry.
	So then now, modern women, they've just been sold to continue to even with feminism and the lies that we've been talking about with that.
	Well, take birth control so you can stay in the corporate world longer, so you don't have kids and you don't have to get married and have children and be at home.
	So instead, why don't you just work a job and go on birth control?
	Yeah.
	I've started personally, at least I've started birth control just because I wasn't like getting a period.
	Like I was having struggles with like regulating my period and I wasn't really getting it.
	It kind of went away.
	So that's what the doctor recommended.
	Have you ever gotten a hormone panel done to see your actual hormone levels in your body to see?
	Because women's cortisol levels and different hormones that we have within our body, we go through natural cycle changes.
	Like women in a month go have different cycles.
	Like we have a cycle.
	We're kind of like on a body clock to where getting on birth control, sure, you may have a period, but getting off of it and actually learning your body and tracking it and using something like natural cycles or tracking your hormone levels is going to be way more beneficial for the long run.
	Is that a curse?
	No, yeah, I'm just curious.
	But that's the case.
	But for a lot of women, when I got off my birth control, the first thing my doctor said was, You're going to regret this.
	Are you sure you don't want to be back on birth control?
	I said, well, what are the side effects?
	And she was like, oh, you can read them.
	They're on the pamphlet.
	So women are so ill-informed when they do get on birth control.
	When I was on the marina IUD, for six years, I didn't have a period, which isn't normal.
	But my doctor said, it is normal.
	You're fine.
	You're not going to get pregnant.
	And I'm like, well, how am I supposed to know my body?
	What do you think?
	I mean, what do you think about non-hormonal forms of birth control?
	Like the IUD, right?
	Copper IUD.
	There's definitely side effects, absolutely.
	But definitely side effects of the copper IUD.
	Not as bad as in terms of the hormonal.
	Sure, but I mean, if you know, non-hormonal birth control, I would honestly just consider would be like condoms or natural cycles.
	I don't know if you all have heard of natural cycles, but you can physically track every single day based off your temperature and it will tell you you're fertile and non-fertile days.
	Because why are we medicating ourselves 365 days a year when really we can only get pregnant five to six days out of the month?
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	Isn't it the case, though, that the hormonal birth control?
	I think you mentioned this, it tends to make women more attracted to feminine men.
	Yep.
	So it crossed my mind.
	And weight gain, weight loss is a huge thing.
	Would women be more or less attracted to me on birth control.
	Freaking Brian.
	Yeah, I always got to make it about me, right?
	It's always about you.
	It's always about me.
	I was just like, no, but women are attracted to more feminine men on birth control.
	I'm not like the total manly, I'm not like a super manly man, but I feel like I'm also not a soy boy.
	No, you're not a soy boy.
	So, like, am I kind of neutral?
	I think you're in the safe space.
	I'm one of the boys.
	Yeah.
	Brian's one of the girls.
	I'm just around too much.
	You're around too many women doing that.
	It might be.
	I find people tell me I'm starting to say like I've been starting to say like a lot, though.
	It's better.
	Brian, check your nails.
	Brian, check your nails.
	That's not the fuck.
	It's like a value.
	Check your nails.
	Oh, yeah, I did like that.
	Okay.
	Yeah, you're thinking I was going to do like that, right?
	Just check it.
	I had to say it.
	I still have a little man in me left.
	All right, so there's that.
	Maybe we'll.
	I'll come back to some more stuff here.
	Oh, really quick on the draft.
	Who's the primary victim of war?
	Men or women?
	Men.
	Okay.
	Anyone think it's women?
	I'm kidding.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Yo, Exo Shawnee, thank you for the 50.
	Appreciate it.
	Are you talking about women?
	Thank you, Exo Shawnee.
	No, me.
	Rose, we're going to Rose here with our notes finally.
	You said you should, your first message to us when you DM'd us was, you should really put me on your podcast, which is very confident, very confident.
	And so I'm curious why.
	I don't know.
	I just thought that would be interesting.
	I feel like sometimes I have some hot takes, some crazy stories.
	Yeah, like burning.
	Burning out or shot.
	Yep.
	Tell us about the guy who asked you out on a date who.
	Oh.
	You know, you know what I mean?
	That story.
	Yeah, so I was asked out on a date by a.
	This is the gay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	By a guy who was gay and he wanted to use it as a cover-up to is that a beard?
	Is that what that's called?
	A beard?
	Yeah, I believe so.
	You were the beard.
	No, you were the beard.
	I was the beard, yeah.
	How old was he?
	This was like senior year of high school.
	So I was like 18.
	Why would I?
	I don't know why a young guy would want a beard though.
	He had a crush on this guy in my high school.
	And it was the type of scenario where it was like he was the nerdier, quiet kid, and then he had a crush on this jock.
	And it was being cycled throughout the school that he had a crush on this other kid in my school.
	So he came out to me.
	Yeah.
	So he came out to me that day, literally just vented everything and explained the whole story and admitted that it was true.
	And I was like, wow, this is a lot of information to trust me with.
	And then there's something about makeup.
	And something about makeup.
	What did I say with that?
	He, the dude wore makeup.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	He did.
	He wore makeup.
	Okay.
	Yeah, he wore makeup.
	He was fully, like, he painted his nails.
	Like, you could tell he was gay.
	He was like, but I need a girlfriend to prove that.
	And so you're the beard.
	Okay, that's.
	All right.
	That's it?
	Is that the story?
	No, So we went on, like, I don't, it wasn't like a date date, but like, I don't know.
	I consider it like hanging with a friend or whatever.
	But you had carnal knowledge?
	I what?
	Was there carnal knowledge?
	What does that mean?
	Like carnal knowledge.
	Carnal?
	Carnal.
	Knowledge.
	Like a popcorn.
	Carnal?
	What?
	No, carnal.
	Was there carnal knowledge?
	Carnal.
	Did you have carnal knowledge with this man who's attracted to men?
	Carnal.
	Knowledge.
	Carnal.
	Sexual intercourse.
	Oh, with another man.
	Did you have sexual intercourse with the dude?
	No, no.
	Oh, okay.
	But he wanted to.
	But you said he was gay.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I know.
	But what kind of proof did he want?
	Did he want to record it?
	And then, like, excuse me?
	That's what I'm saying.
	He was trying to, he was either, like, I think he was trying to not be gay.
	Wait, I feel like he was trying to not be gay.
	I got a theory.
	There's like some dudes, it's like the most pathetic game ever, but they'll like pretend to be gay to get pussy.
	It's the weirdest fucking thing.
	He was, he was definitely happened.
	We were at this like frozen yogurt place, and he asked me, he was like, it's actually kind of predatory because they're like, oh, Mike, I can let my guard down around him.
	We were at this frozen yogurt place, and he was like, so now that, like, you're my girlfriend, can I kiss you?
	And I was like, fuck.
	I was like, yo, what?
	I was like, but like, you're gay, why would you want to do that?
	And he was like, just so I could like have the experience of kissing a girl.
	So I don't know if that means he just wanted to like, I don't know what his goals were here.
	You know what I'm saying?
	But so technically, yeah, I want.
	But the whole time, his nails were painted and he had makeup on.
	And I was like, what the fuck?
	Yeah, literally.
	He's like, dude.
	And then he just fully asked to kiss me.
	And then I was like, no.
	And I got up and I left.
	You also said that there was a there was a trans man who tried to ask you out?
	What?
	Yes, that was also true.
	Yes, I. My high school was interesting.
	But you said that he told you he wasn't trans, even though you knew her.
	Wait, I'm so confused.
	Right.
	Wait, this is how you phrased it.
	Also, a transgender man tried asking me out and told me he wasn't trans, even though I knew her as a woman.
	Right.
	So this is a girl who's now a girl.
	Guy asking you out.
	I like participated in like sports.
	Like I knew this person, but she just lied.
	But no, they were like, I don't even know what to call them, but they fully like went through this like whole transition.
	They were like, I'm a new person now.
	So I was never bottom surgery.
	I was never that.
	I don't know.
	But then told you, even though you knew this person before the transition, told you that they weren't trans.
	Yeah.
	Damn, that's crazy.
	That's wild.
	That's crazy stuff.
	I went to a very interesting high school.
	Would y'all date a trans man?
	Yeah, we could go around the table on that.
	Would you date a trans man?
	I don't know.
	I honestly don't know.
	No, I wouldn't.
	I don't know.
	I really don't know either.
	Gustavo?
	Would you?
	More of them traditional values coming in.
	I don't know.
	Couldn't tell you.
	Super trad.
	This is such a trad table.
	Super trad.
	No.
	No, no, no.
	I got married, so never dating again.
	Would you sooner date a trans man or a trans woman?
	What?
	What?
	I. Wait, what does that mean, though?
	Like, a woman becoming a man.
	Trans man is a woman to a man.
	A trans woman is a man to a woman.
	Yeah, it's just opposites.
	Just think of it like opposites.
	So a man becoming a woman, would you date that?
	No.
	I'm not asking.
	Is that what you mean?
	No, no.
	No, that's all I asked.
	No, my question was: would you sooner date a trans man over a trans woman?
	Neither.
	Neither.
	No, if you had to pick.
	If you had to pick.
	Actually, yeah, because that's a biological man.
	So, yeah, I would date a trans woman over a trans man because a trans woman would be a biological male.
	You're confused?
	There you go.
	Not to become a nun.
	Confused and tired.
	But neither.
	I think Andrew said he would rather take the bullet.
	Is that right, Andrew?
	That's correct.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	We have, okay, moving on.
	Identity and the honesty.
	Okay, you said you're Christian and faithful to your religion.
	You think P-Stars cannot separate their job from their relationship and their work is that's fucking disgusting and sinful.
	You said you think modern dating is lustful and straying away from love.
	I think from a biblical perspective, that it does, like that line of work does stray away and caters towards the lustful.
	Like it's an industry looking to make money through lust.
	Okay.
	And so from a Christian perspective, then I would say that that whole industry in general implores like lust.
	Well, you said I think porn pea stars cannot separate their job from their relationship and their work is disgusting and sinful.
	We have two girls that are really close to you proximally when we're in proximity.
	I'm not like.
	Do you want to just say it right to their face?
	I'm not shaming them.
	You can't judge.
	You can't judge, though, right?
	I'm not shaming them for it.
	I'm not shaming them for it.
	No, you just think it's disgusting.
	Other sinners sinning sinners for sinning differently, huh?
	Yeah, it's there are different things.
	Lexi throws down, by the way, so just say it right to her face.
	No, no.
	No, because it's funny.
	There is different sinners who sin in different ways.
	Like, I oh, yeah, girl.
	How do you sin?
	Tell us your sins.
	My sins?
	Yeah.
	Burning people.
	Burning shit.
	There we go.
	I sin too.
	I'm not saying like one sin is worse than another, but I'm saying according to like a religious person.
	I have a question.
	I have a question.
	I'm totally interrupting this vlog.
	Gustavo, do you know, do you watch Dave Chappelle?
	Have you seen the Chappelle show?
	You know that like robot dance?
	You know the.
	Can you do it?
	Do you know how to do it?
	Can you just do it for like the rest of the show in the corner over there?
	How much longer is that?
	I don't know.
	Just do it.
	You down to do it?
	Wait, you get.
	Okay.
	Wait, so how do you sin?
	How do I sin?
	Sorry, derailed.
	Derailed.
	Of course, everybody's a sinner.
	Burning shirts.
	I burn shirts.
	We all sin, but we also called you guys disgusting, and you're not going to say anything.
	Because that's her opinion.
	Like, do you, boo-boo.
	The industry is.
	Think less and live more.
	No, no, no.
	Is that what the tattoos on your palms have?
	Yeah, think of it.
	Think less.
	Think less, live more.
	I don't think they're disgusting.
	I think the disaster in general is.
	I'm going to look at you like that.
	Oh.
	No, the sex work industry 100% is disgusting.
	I don't know if you want to kill me or fuck me.
	It's really.
	And that's what I'm saying.
	The sex work industry.
	I'm kidding.
	It's a joke.
	A lot of people say the same thing, though.
	That's funny.
	I don't think the people are disgusting.
	I don't think individual people, unless you have that intention, are disgusting human beings for the record.
	I think the industry in general.
	But I am with you when I say, yes, the sex work industry is a vile industry that I do think benefits and praise off of women that are self-objectifying themselves and causing other men to lust.
	Also.
	I don't understand the take.
	Why aren't individual women who are engaged in pornography not disgusting individuals?
	Because I think they're pretty fucking disgusting individuals.
	Like, just to be perfectly honest with you, to unequivocally put this the best way I possibly can, if you are a woman who is engaged in prostitution or pornography, you are a disgusting fucking individual.
	Why is it that you can't say that?
	Because I'm not going to take an individual person and tell them that they're a disgusting human being.
	Why not?
	I can offer a Christ-like approach.
	What they're doing, what they're doing.
	Can't you say what you're doing is fucking disgusting?
	Yes, I can say that the acts in which a woman is engaging in the pornography industry and the prostitution industry and the sex work industry with that industry is disgusting behavior.
	Great.
	Then look over at him and point at him and say, what you're doing is that it's not a good thing.
	It's okay to be narrow.
	It's okay to be narrow-minded.
	It doesn't matter.
	That's not narrow-minded.
	You're really narrow-minded.
	I would rather not humans either.
	They are narrow-minded.
	Just tell them what's true.
	Just tell them what's true.
	If you're a hooker, you're gross.
	But I would rather, and if you're narrow-minded, you're narrow-minded, so that's fine.
	But I don't think I'd agree with it this way to even have the conversation.
	I would rather approach the conversation of talking about how the industry harms women and encouraging future women and encouraging women like these to remove themselves from the industry and tell them about the harms that they're doing to society and their bodies and other men and even as they partake in it.
	Why don't you talk about the murder industry?
	How the murder industry, all the murder industry does is that it leads people towards murder.
	And so, you know, I'd rather talk to these murderers about the murder industry rather than the fact that they're doing anything that you're against.
	Calling individuals disgusting is not Christ-like.
	That's not Christ-like.
	It's not loving.
	Exactly.
	How do you know what's Christ-like?
	What do you know?
	What do you know?
	What's Christ-like?
	You know, what's Christ-like.
	You're judging the counseling people out.
	You want me to go over to a bunch of prostitutes and go, well, I'm not going to tell you what you're doing is disgusting because that's not very Christ-like.
	That's insanity.
	I will have discernment and call somebody out on their actions and talk to them about their actions.
	But for me to go and sound in front of someone's face and say, you are a disgusting human being, that is not acting like how Jesus Christ would act.
	Yeah, it would take balls like what Jesus said.
	This entire actual balls to look at a person and say, hey, what you're doing is horrible and you need to stop.
	And that's what I said.
	He did not.
	Can I tell you something?
	Can I say something?
	How many sicks have you smoked this entire podcast?
	And what's wrong with that?
	You smoked Paula the entire last week.
	It was just crazy because you've sat here this entire time smoking so many sigs.
	Has that ever affected your dating life?
	Are we just going to glance over the brilliance?
	I just want to know, since this is a dating podcast.
	Wait, what?
	I said, since it's a dating podcast, I just want to know because genuinely you've smoked a lot of them.
	Andrew has lungs of sigs.
	What to do with what?
	What the hell does that have to do with it?
	What does me?
	What does me being a prostitute have to do with you?
	What does me being illegal prostitute have to do with you?
	You're prostitutional.
	I'm not doing anything in a hard time.
	I'm not sure if you have to live in.
	It has to do with the perpetuation of what's happening.
	And you smoking hard.
	Many people, not just yourself.
	You can't talk while at the same time that I talk, if you ask me a question, let me give you the answer.
	What you're doing is perpetuating one of the most horrific things on planet Earth.
	Through that perpetuation, what I've seen is the society which I live in collapsing around me due to degeneracy.
	Literally due to degeneracy, which you are perpetuating.
	Instead of us saying, this is what you people are doing, we go, well, abstractly, the porn industry is actually very harmful.
	What do you mean, you people?
	What you mean, you people?
	I just said what they're doing is harming people.
	Do you think they're so stupid we don't know that they're taught we're oh, wait, Andrew, you muted yourself.
	Yeah, do you think they're so stupid that they think that we're not talking about them when we say the porn industry?
	I can talk to a person without calling a human being and saying, You are a disgusting human being.
	I can talk about their actions and I can bring them and show them light and salvation and grace and give them what Jesus would give them because Jesus did love prostitutes and brought them to salvation to follow him, did he not?
	Beat them over the head, beat them over the head of the Bible.
	It'll be right back underneath the guy next week.
	You know, it's like, I wish at some point somebody would just call out what's going on.
	I'll pray for you.
	Here, let's talk about that.
	That wouldn't change any right now.
	That wouldn't.
	Let's join hands.
	Calling someone disgusting doesn't.
	You got to kind of do a spin while you do it, too, I think.
	Yeah, because calling somebody disgusting is definitely going to change our viewpoint.
	Also, all you are doing is polarizing everybody.
	By this kind of behavior, by this kind of talk, you look like an polarizing, Andrew.
	Good.
	You're polarizing.
	Polarizing issue.
	It's the same reason that you see TPUSA hand over fist support homosexuality.
	It's the same reason they refuse to call it.
	Whoa, When did I say I support homosexuality when I just said that marriage is between a marriage?
	We're going off the rails, folks.
	We're going off the rails everywhere.
	We're talking about it.
	It's the end days.
	Anyways, Ruby.
	Or sorry, Rose, my bad.
	Ruby?
	Sorry, I don't know why I keep fucking.
	Holy moly.
	The whatever podcast at the seventh hour is getting fucking heated, boys.
	Wait, okay.
	A couple more notes here from everybody.
	I want to get everybody in.
	So you said that you considered herself feminist.
	By the way, the views expressed by the panelists do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever podcast.
	Oh, feminist in the sense that, like, I should have rights.
	Well, so when I, in our pre-show notes here, you said you considered, you could, oh, no, you, sorry.
	You didn't consider yourself a feminist, but I think you considered yourself feminist on some things.
	And those two things that you cited was intersectionality and bodily autonomy.
	Right.
	Okay.
	So those are the things that I do.
	And you said, other than that, I'd say my morals are typically faith-based and conservative.
	Right.
	By this, I mean with intersectionality.
	By this, I mean the experiences of women across different cultures and women as a whole and how they each define their perspectives on society.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	So are you saying like with the bodily autonomy stuff, you're pro-choice, is that correct?
	I would say yes.
	Okay.
	And then I didn't really totally get the intersectionality component, but let's just disregard that.
	The bodily autonomy thing is somewhat related to dating just because you can get sex, pregnant, et cetera.
	So you consider yourself a Christian, correct?
	And you're faithful to your religion.
	Also, I have a question for you.
	If the Christian faith, by the word of God, and in biblical, oh my God.
	Biblical.
	Hold on.
	Yeah, I know, it's just tongue-tied.
	In biblical scripture and text, and if the preeminent theologians, and let's say there was an ecclesiastical determination that abortion is forbidden by the tenants of the religion, would you then change your stance to be pro-life?
	It's a topic I've grappled with.
	I will say that the reason I do lean towards pro-choice, I'm not laughing at you, sorry.
	I know.
	The reason I do lean towards pro-choice is because there are very, like, there are many arguments that you can argue within biblical context, but the main reason being that there's a saying in the Bible that says that God blew breath into the life of Adam.
	So it's the argument that life begins at first breath.
	When do you believe that life begins?
	Now, I do believe there's a certain point in which you should be able to terminate a pregnancy.
	At what point would you say that is?
	I would say it has to be done within the first trimester.
	The first trimester.
	So what constitute that being less of a life than during the second trimester?
	Because there's a difference in the fetus' capabilities and growth.
	So do brain waves and a heartbeat classify as life?
	I would say within the cellular stage is when you should be able to terminate it.
	So cellular stage would be max two to three weeks.
	At six weeks, the fetus has full brain waves and heartbeat at six weeks.
	Gustavo?
	It depends.
	It differs case to case.
	If it's like a SA case, then I think that's.
	Which I can understand cases in that.
	But then you brought up the first breath first.
	So I'll bring up, you know, the Lord and us together in our mother's womb, and he's known us since the moment of conception.
	And that from that moment of conception, that a baby's genes are entirely known.
	The eye color, hair color, everything is known.
	That entire mapping of the baby is known at conception.
	But just because a life is at six weeks versus 12 weeks versus 24 weeks doesn't make the value of that life any less different.
	Right, yeah.
	Now, I agree with you, which is why I'm like very like flexible in the sense of terminating a pregnancy.
	I wholeheartedly believe in SA cases, like I said, that should be.
	But in the case where it was like you have the means to provide for the child, you're stable, that it's let, that you should have less.
	Should someone of lower income be able to get an abortion more than someone of a higher income?
	Because by societal standards, they may not be able to provide as nice lifestyle for the child?
	Not if it's not as nice a lifestyle, but if it's a lifestyle in which they would not be able to care for the child at all.
	I mean, there are options of like adoption or foster care as well.
	It's just, to me, it's case by case.
	Does anyone know when a baby can feel pain?
	Isn't it like eight?
	I want to say eight to ten weeks within gestation.
	So not that long.
	But yeah, not that long.
	That's why a lot of people don't realize like how early on a human being is being developed and the physical even trauma that women go through when they do go through an abortion.
	So the reason I brought up the value scale of like somebody of a lower income versus higher income is are we placing value on that human being's potential life?
	Because who's to say that the child born into a lower income family isn't going to be one of the wealthiest men or women in the country?
	So I don't think it's fair for us to place value on life when every single life is value and every single life is wanted and it's not up to us to choose abortion.
	I mean I am pro-life conception to natural death in all circumstances because no life is unvaluable even if it is SA, even if it is some of those special cases.
	Those special cases are less than 1% of all abortions in our country.
	And when the 99% are elective abortions for women that are using it for pure convenience, that's very unfortunate.
	I mean, millions of children.
	Convenience is a little worse in cases than most.
	So that's about 99%.
	Is 99% of abortions that happen in America are due to either convenience or because they didn't want the child.
	Abortion should not be like a form of birth control.
	So I would say that's the 99%.
	And majority of those women that are getting birth control or that are going to get an abortion, those 99% of abortions in our country is also may or may not have been on birth control, may or may not have used a condom, but they're got pregnant and ended up just going and getting abortion because they didn't want the child.
	So that's what I mean by elective abortions.
	Okay.
	There's your facts.
	Wait, so you're pro-choice?
	I think it goes case by case, but I do believe that the choice of the mother should be taken into consideration, especially in like certain cases like I mentioned of like SA or Okay.
	Yeah.
	Just really quick going around the table.
	Are you pro-life or pro-choice?
	I'm pro-choice.
	pro-life pro-life pro-life pro-life Andrew?
	Naturally.
	Yeah, very much.
	Pro-life.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Last notes here for Adeline.
	Adeline?
	Adeline?
	Let's see.
	You wanted to talk about body positivity.
	Oh, my God.
	Body positivity?
	What's that about?
	No, I just, I think that we should celebrate women's bodies of all sizes and styles, and that's pretty much it.
	I'm not saying, oh, my God.
	I'm just saying.
	Should obesity be celebrated?
	No.
	No.
	At what point do we classify obesity then?
	Whenever your mobility is limited and you can no longer walk from here to there, that should not be celebrated.
	That would be like morbidly obesity.
	Yeah, not 4x.
	But I'm talking about a 4x who's just like, I love my body.
	I'm beautiful.
	Everyone, and leave comments in my comment section.
	I'm a beautiful woman.
	And so, and you're going to tell me that I'm fat and beautiful.
	I am not going to say that.
	For me, I encourage fitness, but I also encourage body positivity.
	And you can have extra weights.
	You can be a 2X, a 3X, and you can still be active.
	You can still have a fit lifestyle.
	That is what I believe in.
	And that is where you're going to be able to do that.
	What does body positivity mean to you?
	Body positivity means not looking at someone and saying, you are disgusting because you are fat.
	That is not okay.
	That's fucking good.
	What if they are?
	That's your opinion.
	Do you think that the body positions?
	I know, but do you think that it would be a shared opinion?
	How do you mean?
	Like, I don't know.
	Most people, if they saw like a, I don't know, 300, 350-pound chick, something like that, you think they might go, oh, that's gross.
	That is their own inner judgment.
	That is their own choice to judge.
	Yeah, but what's wrong with having judgment on something that's clearly gross and not good?
	If you want to cast judgment on someone that you don't even know or you don't know their circumstances, that's your choice.
	Yeah, well, here's the thing.
	Yeah, maybe it is a choice.
	Maybe it is a choice to use judgment.
	I assume you use judgment, right?
	Well, yeah.
	Yeah, so what's the problem with somebody else using their judgment to say, hey, being 350 pounds, that's pretty disgusting.
	You should probably do something about that.
	Would you go up to a person that you saw that was fat and say, you are disgusting?
	Are you the type to comment other people's photos and say you are disgusting?
	Don't answer your question.
	That is what I say when it comes to body positivity.
	You do not encourage that kind of behavior.
	Hang on, hang on.
	And that's where mine comes into play.
	I'm trying to do that.
	Everyone has their own different stance.
	You're still going to be able to do it.
	Let me answer the question.
	Don't prattle.
	Let me just answer your question directly.
	Oh, inside of the commons.
	No, I wouldn't break the peace by just walking over to somebody and insulting them.
	That seems absurd.
	Yeah.
	But that does not mean that if some big fat chick went on social media and said, hey, look at me, this big, used, chewed up piece of bubblegum said, look at me.
	Tell me I'm great.
	Oh my God.
	Sorry, keep it going.
	I'm not going to walk over or I'm not going to be like, oh, yes, you are.
	That's insanity.
	And I'm not encouraging that either.
	Would you say that?
	Well, then what then?
	What is body positivity then?
	Body positivity is whatever it is to you.
	Like, my definition is going to be very different from anyone else's.
	I'm just saying it's not right to sit here and cast judgment on someone because they do not fit your ideal image of what a woman or man or body type should be.
	Oh, that's not.
	That's not.
	Okay, if that's not right, okay, then what is it right that we're allowed to cast judgment on?
	Can we cast judgment on anything?
	You can cast judgment on anything that you want, but it's about whenever you go out of your way to be disgusting and terrible to a person.
	But aren't they going out of their way in order to present that?
	You poor, fragile, fat phobic person, that it offends you that someone is fat.
	Aren't it?
	Here's the question: Aren't they going out of their way to present themselves up for public scrutiny to say, no, I'm big and bold and beautiful?
	And if you put yourself out there to make that claim, why shouldn't people have the judgment value to claim otherwise?
	That's their choice to put themselves out there.
	Anytime you put yourself on the internet, you are subjecting yourself to that kind of like just behavior and those kinds of comments.
	And that's that person.
	But for me, where it comes into play is you should not, you should not sit there and be fat phobic.
	That's all I'm saying.
	What's yeah, well, no, well, no, that doesn't make any sense.
	You just got to.
	It doesn't have to make sense to you.
	You are fat-phobic.
	By your own logic, this makes no sense.
	Let me finish what I'm saying.
	You say if you put yourself out on the internet, you're going to be subjected to ridicule.
	I am.
	Brian is.
	Everybody at this table is.
	We all understand that that's true.
	How in the world can you then say that if you put yourself out there to be scrutinized by other people, that it's wrong for them to give a judgment value on you being morbidly obese?
	Doesn't that seem insane?
	No.
	No.
	What's insane is literally going out of your way to degrade somebody.
	Well, you're going out of your way to present yourself as somebody who shouldn't be degraded.
	Okay.
	Yeah, but why is it okay for you to present yourself that way?
	But the alternative opinion of saying, no, that's bullshit is not just as valid as your opinion.
	You're really losing me.
	My stance is.
	Yeah, I know that I'm really losing you, but that's because you won't pay attention.
	You talk more than you listen.
	So listen.
	Thank you very much.
	If you put yourself out and you put a value judgment out there, you say, look, I'm here to be scrutinized.
	And then people scrutinize you.
	You're saying that I'm big and I'm beautiful.
	And then other people say, no, that shit's gross.
	Why are they wrong and you're right?
	I didn't say that.
	My whole point is that you should not literally go up to someone.
	Should not cast that kind of judgment if someone has a few extra pounds or that they do not confirm.
	Well, I think that's what's your ideal image.
	Wait, Morgan, you had something quick, and then I have a quick question, then we'll move on.
	Do you think that the body positivity movement has encouraged obesity and embracing fatness?
	I think that each body positivity definition can be different.
	I think that it's not necessarily about the weight, it's about your natural appearances, your stretch marks.
	It doesn't have to do exactly with weight.
	It can be about your natural body and your natural positive.
	Sure, but in society, there's been a hyper-fixation on embracing fatness, and that has been morphed into the body positivity movement.
	Where I mean, on health fitness magazines, you're seeing obese people, and you see the health industry encouraging people to eat horrible foods.
	And I mean, as a society, it's now just more accepted to be fat.
	And I'm not saying that I promote that specific narrative.
	My narrative is that you should appreciate a woman's natural body.
	And you should not cast judgment.
	You should not be ugly towards someone because they do not fit your ideal image of the person.
	Sure, but I also think that the body a person should look like.
	That is it.
	That is all.
	But women have let themselves go and have continued to gain weight and then expect everyone to still say, well, you're beautiful, instead of actually encouraging that.
	But that's more than that.
	One thing, one thing.
	You said that the initial way that you kind of framed this was for women.
	Do you also hold the same thing for men too?
	Absolutely, but if a man...
	Because you did say for women.
	I mean, that's the whole hot topic.
	That's the debate.
	That's what gets engagement is the women.
	But men can have whatever body they have.
	Okay, let's see.
	Have you noticed the convenience factor of it mostly being very heavy women who also tend to promote body positivity?
	Have you noticed that trend?
	Who are you asking?
	You.
	Okay, and I know plenty of people who do promote body positivity who are not plus size or these extra pounds, and I don't appreciate what you're insinuating.
	What did I insinuate?
	I just said, have you noticed that trend?
	The reason that I think such a trend exists is because I think that people who push that trend themselves don't like it when they hear comments from other people saying, hey, we don't want this as being the normative trend in society.
	And so I think they have a vested interest in pushing back against that by saying, no, this is beautiful when it clearly isn't.
	Okay, moving on.
	Got to move on.
	Got a couple more notes here.
	I want to try to wrap soon.
	Okay, you said you traveled solo through Europe your first year doing OF and Tindered in Prague, Paris, Poland.
	So you were on Tinder while you were traveling?
	Yeah.
	Red flag.
	How many Tinder dates were you on while you were solo traveling in Europe?
	How long were you solo traveling in Europe and how many Tinder dates?
	So one month I did a full month in Europe and I did two tender dates.
	Just two?
	Just two.
	Oh, okay.
	That's great.
	All right.
	You also said, I want to try to prompt you to say this, but you said you're pretty open, but you do feel everyone should.
	Oh, I feel like everyone should get out there and date.
	I believe that people should get out there and date and explore what is out there so that they can decide for themselves what they want.
	When you say that, by see what's out there and learn more about themselves, do you mean get ran through by a bunch of dudes?
	No, it doesn't have to, like, that does not have to include sexual stuff.
	That does not have to include sex.
	It can talk about traits, habits, qualities, mannerisms, ambitions, not just.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Because that's what, like, I'm translating.
	I'm a translator.
	And when the woman says, I want to go explore and find myself.
	Sounds like you want to be biased.
	I think.
	That sounds like you want to just get run through by a bunch of dudes.
	And that's your personal opinion, and a man does not.
	Wait, we got to hear Andrew's laugh when he's are you on push to talk Andrew or yeah, no I um you know, I have my my chat over here I don't I of course I'm not gonna interrupt the show and the good flow by talking over anybody I do appreciate the the engagement by the way I know that we have conflicting opinions, but I do think that these things need to be discussed.
	They do.
	Yeah.
	Okay, last few things here, and I swear we're gonna wrap soon.
	I swear it, ladies and gentlemen.
	Okay.
	One more hour.
	Meg.
	Back to Meg really quick.
	You got a lot here for us.
	One of your hot takes that you said, you said men exist to serve women.
	And you said that women created men, not the other way around, that the Bible states.
	So I have two quarrels here.
	One, that men exist to serve women.
	That's questionable.
	And then two, and I'd like, perhaps I'm going to defer to Andrew on this before.
	First, I'll give you a chance to respond.
	Is that biblically accurate that women created men?
	So take it away.
	It's very late.
	You got this.
	You got this.
	Just bust out some.
	What's the thing that Australians eat?
	Vegemite.
	Vegemite, you're chilling.
	Wax P-donated $100.
	Curious.
	Do the moralists think being a legal escort is as damaging to society as of one is accessible to adults in discrete places.
	One is online for kids to access.
	Prostitution is proven over time.
	Sorry, it's proven to get banned in basically every society that it's in in the West, specifically because it has so many bad results.
	And not only does it have bad results on the prostitute themselves, but even on the people who are partaking in the activity.
	That's why they arrest both.
	And so, yes, I would say it proven over time to do what?
	To degradate society, to make it a little bit worse than it was the day before?
	Yeah, I would agree with that.
	I mean, I would agree with Andrew on this.
	And I would also say, in current society standards, I would say OnlyFans is worse due to the sheer amount of views that they're getting in children, etc.
	I'm just going to read this quick.
	Nickelodeon, I don't know what, I don't know that life has or will have value as is unfortunately displayed here, but the potential for great life shouldn't be squandered.
	That's from Nickelodeon.
	Hey, thank you, man.
	Appreciate all your patrons.
	That's a brilliant observation, right?
	You only get it once.
	You only get it once, and nobody wants to be on their deathbed saying, I engaged in prostitution.
	I don't believe that.
	I just don't believe it.
	Oh, I don't know if that's in response to that.
	I think it probably had to do with the pro-life, pro-choice conversation we're having a few months ago.
	Well, I'll just put an extra flavor in.
	Sure.
	Wait, scoot your mic to the edge of the table.
	Okay.
	You got this.
	I believe in you.
	Get some Vegemite.
	You got this.
	So I'm basically referring to natural selection.
	Wait, just scoot the mic to the very, very edge if you can.
	Wait.
	Natural selection is an evolutionary term.
	You're a Christian.
	Okay, here, I'll repeat it.
	I'll repeat it.
	So, okay.
	You said men exist to serve women.
	Let's start there and then we can address the woman created men, not the other way around.
	But the Bible states.
	So men exist to serve women.
	Yeah.
	Can I read my thing?
	Sure.
	So basically I'm referring to.
	Oh my god, I'm sorry.
	Okay, natural selection.
	So women only choose men that do what they can.
	Put your head on the other side.
	You're getting blocked.
	Women only choose men that do what they can't do.
	Men that can't get disposed of don't get to carry on their genes.
	That being said, women don't select the best men right now.
	Good men are being disposed of.
	Women's selection process has been meddled with.
	Women's ability to bond and choose has been manipulated by TV, movie, celebrities.
	That's what I have to say.
	No, but you said that.
	Gotcha.
	Can you explain that?
	The idea for the women created men thing.
	I'm too tired to explain that now.
	It's too late.
	You got it.
	Where's the energy drink?
	Get her in the energy.
	I have to try to catch a plane at this time.
	Men.
	But you said this.
	It's like 4 o'clock in the morning.
	It's pretty late, though.
	It's a very complicated.
	You got this.
	I believe in you.
	How complicated could it be?
	It's going to be pulled apart very easily because I don't have the faculties to discuss it.
	I'm just confused because, I mean, God created Adam.
	Why are you confused?
	But then women came from Adam's rib biblically, from a biblical perspective.
	So I don't know how, I mean, even women could make men when that's not possible from a biblical perspective.
	And even women were created, even Eve was created to support and provide and to help Adam.
	Yeah, that's why it's a controversial thing to say because I said that.
	I said it.
	It's not like what the Bible said.
	So thank you for explaining.
	So how did women create men?
	So I guess what I'm sort of saying is when you're a baby, it's really whatever.
	You're a woman.
	Everyone's a girl first.
	Right?
	In the womb, everyone starts off as a female.
	And then something.
	Every baby is a female first, and then something happens with the, you'll have to look up clients.
	No, I understand that for you.
	Okay, so I'm not going to dispute that.
	I'm just curious.
	Are you saying that biblically you think that men came from women?
	I think men are created to do stuff for women, to prove themselves, to push society and evolution forward.
	That's why you take more risks.
	That's why you're more disposable because you're meant to.
	And women are the ones who select.
	So the menu.
	If you don't mind, I'm really sorry to cut you off.
	Did God create woman or man first?
	I think he created women first.
	Okay, so now we get to the actual heart of it.
	None of all the bullshit.
	We finally cut through all the bullshit.
	What makes you believe that God created women before men?
	I just kind of said it.
	And I think it's going to be too confusing as Morgan keeps whispering under our breath.
	So I don't think I really want to talk about it.
	Okay, well then, can I just ask a follow-up?
	Then that's way simpler.
	Okay.
	How is it that you reconcile the view of evolution with your Christianity?
	I'd say I believe in God, and I'm Catholic-leaning, but I don't go to church.
	Have you been confirmed by the church?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so you were baptized, maybe, as an infant or something?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So, how do you, how do you, I'm still, how do you reconcile these two views?
	I wouldn't say I'm like an indoctrinated, like, not like a completely like devout Catholic.
	I just don't understand.
	I get it.
	I get that you're not a devout Catholic, but did God create me?
	Or did God create a single-cell organism which over time evolved into all of life?
	That's my question.
	I would love to talk more about this, but I think I wish we had brought it up a bit earlier in the night because it's seven minutes to one in the morning.
	And I'm just going to talk gibberish.
	I need to sleep.
	Okay, so you don't want to address the Bible one that's going to be a little bit different.
	I can talk about another time.
	Yeah, we could have you back if you're down.
	Do you want to engage on maybe that's a complicated one to engage on, but the men exist to serve women thing?
	That's confusing.
	It's just kind of a similar kind of thing, but it's talking about natural selection.
	Oh, I just kind of read it.
	I read out my point.
	Natural selection.
	Men exist to serve women.
	Isn't it like, but from a religious perspective, isn't it God, husband, wife, children in that hierarchy?
	Well, who knows?
	I mean, the Catholic Church would consider that a complete heresy that she claims that women were created by God first.
	So it's like it's just gibberish at this point.
	They would literally consider it heretical.
	I feel like I lose either way.
	I feel like I try to explain it.
	I'm too tired.
	And then I darn say anything.
	Let me give you some credit here.
	Whoever steps to Andrew loses anyway.
	It doesn't matter.
	So it's like you might as well, you try your best.
	You give it the old college try.
	You're going to lose anyways.
	It's like, it's like, think about it this way: a kid playing, going up and debating against, or sorry, playing against a grandmaster in chess.
	You're going to lose, but you're just going to do it just for the.
	Andrew is much better at being rational and logical than I am.
	So it's very hard for me to get to get my point across.
	Yeah, I just don't think it's going to, especially like right now.
	I'm not going to be.
	I'm like trying to understand what you're saying.
	I think I know.
	So textually in the Bible, it says that Adam was created and then Eve was created from Adam's rib.
	But I think the point maybe you're trying to make is that women create men in the sense that they grow them in the womb.
	Is that like sort of maybe kind of?
	I don't know.
	Anyways, here, let's.
	I think she's tapped out.
	Last question, last question.
	Super quick, super easy.
	Your theory on this, does it include Lilith by chance?
	What?
	What?
	No, it doesn't.
	It doesn't include Lilith.
	No, is that like a Diablo?
	I was just curious.
	Four?
	Is that Diablo 4?
	Sorry.
	Well, I mean, yeah, Diablo did adopt a little Lilith lore.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	All right, cool.
	We got this chat here.
	We have my wife won the lottery.
	Jay Ripple Dumpster Fire comment about.
	I can't even read this, bro.
	Gold-hearted, hung-kong, tough kind, straight family men, Larson Farms, Chet Larson, and Z Johnson, Millennial Farmer.
	That what we're.
	This is like middle English, bro.
	I can't fucking read this shit.
	That we're grown in for the good, trad gals.
	You three outfoe, Kankles are two lower.
	See you next Tuesday, rather.
	Play.
	I'm actually doing a great job here.
	W. Andrew and Groozy Brown.
	That was impressive.
	I'm a fucking legend.
	Okay.
	All right, guys.
	We're going to wrap up the show there.
	Let me see what other last things I have to do.
	We're all cut up on that.
	We're caught up on that.
	Gustavo, do you want to take a seat here while I do my little wrap-up?
	All right, guys.
	Thank you.
	This is perhaps our longest show ever.
	So W's in the chat for that, or L's in the chat for that.
	I'm not sure which one.
	Wow.
	Let's see.
	So I just say to all of you ladies who are here, I don't take any of this personally, I hope you don't either.
	My job is to provide pushback on worldviews.
	That's what I do.
	And I very much appreciated meeting all of you.
	Wholesome, wholesome.
	How nice, Andrew.
	Cyber hood.
	Yeah, there we go.
	All right.
	So those of you on Twitch, thank you for tuning in on Twitch.
	I'm going to see if I can raid somebody.
	Let me see who I can raid on Twitch.
	Who's up?
	oh we got frost adamus i think i'm gonna i'm gonna send oh stay safe is also do i raid We're going to raid StaySafe, okay?
	All right, let me start a raid there for Stay Safe.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Okay, we're raiding him.
	And sorry.
	So if you're on Twitch, you might be leaving soon.
	But thank you, those of you watching on Twitch.
	Oh, I want to do a shout out here for Nick.
	Can you find Andrew's YouTube channel?
	Let's pull that up.
	I want to give him a shout out there.
	So guys, last call.
	Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and so graciously supports the show.
	Your patronage is very much appreciated.
	You know, guys, we ain't getting sponsorships.
	We haven't, we've gotten five sponsorships or some shit.
	You know, a lot of our videos end up demonetized and stuff.
	So I really appreciate your guys' generosity and patronage.
	Big thank you to everybody here.
	This is a long show.
	I appreciate you guys being good sports and staying here till the end.
	Thank you, guys.
	You guys were dope.
	This was a great panel.
	We will be live again.
	We might, there might be a stream on Thursday, but it's tentative, possibly Thursday.
	We'll see.
	But Dating Talk will be back Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific, and then again Tuesday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram.
	If you can make it to Santa Barbara, guys, we're looking.
	We need, if you disagree, you agree, whatever.
	Well, happy to have you on the show.
	Just shoot us a DM on Instagram.
	Let me just check a couple things on Twitch.
	Boom.
	Did I rate it while he was gone?
	Hold on.
	Let me just double check the raid here.
	One sec, guys.
	What do we have?
	One sec.
	Hold on, guys.
	I'm just getting a couple things sorted here on Twitch.
	Any final thoughts while I'm just wrapping up a few tech things here?
	That was fun.
	Had fun.
	Oh, thank you.
	Thank you, lads.
	Lads and gentlemen.
	Oh, can you pull up Andrew's channel?
	Guys, this is the Crucible at the underscore Crucible.
	Please kindly go drop him a subscribe.
	And hit the subscribe button.
	Look at all.
	He's got some.
	Oh, my word.
	He's got some.
	He's been on the whatever channel.
	He's debated destiny.
	I got to see that one.
	Yeah.
	So any final.
	Does he ever win?
	I don't think just, yeah, just probably.
	Yeah.
	Andrew, any final thoughts?
	No, I just really appreciate it.
	Again, to the whatever podcast.
	Thanks for hosting me.
	Of course.
	I know you were feeling under the weather.
	And I appreciate everybody for showing up.
	Cool.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Sorry, guys.
	I'm just finishing up the last few things here.
	One sec, boys.
	One sec.
	And that's good.
	Okay, last one, boys.
	Hold on.
	And then anybody, Morgan, you want to shout out any TP USA stuff?
	Shout out Turning Point USA for allowing me to do this awesome job.
	Last starting point.
	And go sub to me on YouTube and Instagram.
	Yep, her IG and her YouTube are linked below.
	And if anybody wants to subscribe to Gustavo's OnlyFans, that's onlyfans.com slash whatever.
	So just saying, just throwing it out there, right?
	Cool.
	Sweet.
	Hey, Gustavo, have a good night too, brother.
	Yeah, all right.
	I think we got, okay, we got all the Twitch stuff out of the way.
	I just want to double check.
	Did we forget anything?
	Okay. We're good. We're good. We're good. Okay.
	All right, guys.
	Thank you so much for tuning in to the show, guys.
	Thank you once again.
	Thank you to the wonderful panel.
	07s in the chat.
	Good night, guys.

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