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Andrew Wilson HEATED Debate! She Has 2 Vs? TRAD OF GIRL? Virgin Tatted Club Girl? | Dating Talk #137

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	My name is Miss Exquisite.
	I'm 28 years old.
	I'm from Wilmington, Delaware, but currently in Norfolk, Virginia.
	Okay.
	And I'm a plus size model and also an influencer.
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	My name is Madison.
	I'm from San Diego, California.
	I'm 19 years old.
	I work on the whatever podcast, and I'm a student at Santa Barbara City College.
	Hi, my name is the gobbler.
	I'm from upstate New York and 30 years old.
	Oh, oh, I'm an adult film star star.
	Goddamn part.
	All right, welcome.
	Hi, I'm Annie Charlotte.
	I'm from London, and I'm an OnlyFans model with two vaginas.
	Okay, age first.
	Oh, yeah.
	Why do I have to say that online?
	I like to keep it a secret.
	No, joking.
	I'm 25.
	So you have two vagines.
	Two lady working vaginas.
	What is the medical?
	Oh, hold on.
	We'll come back to that.
	Yo, thank you.
	Andrew, you are my favorite guest.
	Any of you ladies with tainted morals buckle up?
	Uh-oh.
	Maiden brings the thunder.
	Maddie is top dog at the table.
	Top dog Maddie at the table.
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	Yeah, Brandon.
	Oh, do you want to say anything to that?
	She answered for me, Brian.
	Yo, so so sorry.
	Oh, hold on, well.
	Fat bastard donated $200.
	Get in my belly.
	I want my baby back, Ribs, I want my baby, back, Ribs, chili is.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Fat Bastard.
	That's my favorite movie.
	Awesome Powers.
	Awesome Powers.
	Okay, thank you.
	Did you want to respond to Brandon?
	No, I was just going to say thanks, Brandon.
	All right, there you go.
	Support the show.
	Yeah.
	You were saying, is there a medical term for your condition?
	Uteristalpha, yes.
	Okay, so is that like, but are there two canals?
	Yeah.
	You got two canals.
	I have two.
	So it's one vagina, like whole, and then it like splits in half.
	So there's like two vaginas.
	Sorry, I don't know why.
	I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Okay, I'm bananas here.
	Two vaginas, two cervixes, and two uteruses.
	So I have two like fully functioning, like reproductive systems.
	But yeah, two halves don't make a hole in my prospect.
	It's like two halves of a vagina, so it makes two vaginas.
	Interesting.
	And so could you have two pregnancies different times?
	Different daddies.
	Well, at the same time, right?
	Yeah, so I could have like, but they could have like start at different times.
	Oh, okay, I see.
	Interesting.
	Yeah.
	And so you could be eight months pregnant and then one month pregnant?
	I don't think I'm allowed to get to eight months pregnant because of like this because they're obviously half the size of like a normal one.
	Oh.
	I can like only carry them to a certain amount of terms and I'll probably have to have them in like an incubator baby.
	But like I could have like a one month and then like a three month pregnancy.
	Yeah, probably.
	I see.
	Could they be surgically altered into one reproductive system?
	Yes.
	I found out when I was 16.
	So I was like, I want this gone.
	Like I want to be like a normal 16 year old and have one vagina please and thank you.
	And he was like, I could.
	It's very possible, but I could damage you in the process.
	Not in the sense of like he's going to hurt me or anything.
	But it's more like science will get so advanced by the time I want to have kids.
	When I was 16, he was like, there's no point.
	It would just be like a waste because there's probably like loads of things that could be in place to help you.
	Interesting.
	And I'm jumping the gun a little bit on this question because a little bit later on we ask about relationship status.
	You currently have two boyfriends, is that correct?
	Yes, I currently have two boyfriends.
	And what you told us in your pre-show notes was one boyfriend for introspective.
	Yeah, so one for the left and one for the right.
	Do they like, how do you decide which one gets which?
	Well, I met the first one first and he chose the left because it's tighter.
	Oh, he gets dibs.
	Yeah, well, I met him fast.
	Yeah.
	I also don't know, but what would happen if like the other boyfriend accidentally accidentally put it in the left?
	It was a conversation because obviously, my like, when I met my psycho boyfriend, he was all like, it all happened in like a, he was just like, oh, for some reason, every guy I've ever met always wants to own one.
	Don't ask me why.
	It's a thing that they want to do.
	And he was like, oh, I want the left one.
	I was like, oh, I can't.
	I use that one for work.
	That one's like a but you ultimately allowed him to have the right one.
	Oh, wait.
	So like one has left and one has the right, but they don't know about each other having either access to either.
	They will.
	It's not cheating.
	They're different holes.
	They will know.
	They will know.
	That's not that.
	But like, they don't.
	It's not cheating because it's the same.
	It's a different hole.
	Right?
	Facts?
	Facts.
	Facts.
	It's the same.
	But it's the same vagina.
	No, it's not.
	It's two different vaginas.
	It's one vagina, two different vaginas.
	I gotta ask, are there medical conditions where there's men who have two penises?
	Yes, there is a guy on Reddit who has two dicks.
	You're trying to set something up?
	No, I'm just hearing this.
	Oh my gosh.
	I'm just.
	There should be like a dating.
	This is a new one to me.
	The guys who have two dicks.
	His dicks, though, wouldn't fit inside my vaginas because his are on top of each other.
	And mine are like a shotgun.
	Does that make sense?
	Makes sense.
	We'd have to like scissor each other.
	Wait, so the two boyfriends don't know about each other?
	Well, not yet.
	They might now.
	They might now, yeah.
	I certainly knew.
	It's just like, I'll just go.
	How long have you been dating these two guys?
	Only like a few months.
	I was just giving it a go.
	Because I had like this whole article come out about me like the beginning of last year.
	Was it the New York Post?
	I don't know.
	It was just that I used one for work and one for pleasure, and my boyfriend was like, well, pissed off.
	So he broke up with me.
	And then people were then interested in me because I had to.
	So then I found two people who I started seeing and then led to being my boyfriends.
	But I didn't really want to be in an open relationship, so I decided to be in two closed ones.
	Wait, do you actually like, is this?
	You said it's, I mean, not to get graphic here, but like, is this true?
	Yes.
	Like, you're not just saying this just for.
	No.
	Because a lot of people make up these stories.
	Oh, I've got this interesting situation.
	I can show you a picture of my two vaginas if you want.
	I actually have a picture.
	Like, I can show you.
	I can't tell you.
	Yeah, we can't show them.
	Okay, maybe if, tell you what, while you get up at some point during the show, I will go back, you'll show me, and then I will come back to the table and tell the viewers if it's true.
	I will say I have a YouTube video where I had, like, I've been in YouTube videos about it, but yeah.
	Yeah, I just want to.
	What's that saying?
	Trust but verify.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, the amount of things I had to put inside and stretch myself out to prove this.
	It's like, I don't think I'd be lying, I promise.
	I'm out of this conversation.
	Excuse me.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	What's tell us?
	Yeah, my name is Crow.
	I am 22.
	I am from South Dakota and I'm actually a car salesman.
	Okay, welcome.
	I am Malik.
	I'm 24.
	I am a full-time Twitch streamer and I'm from the Appalachian Mountains.
	What state?
	Because it spreads a couple different in the middle.
	I don't publicly state my state online.
	Just do different stalker situations.
	The Appalachian.
	Isn't that like a pretty poverty-stricken area?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I live with a bunch of hillbillies.
	All right.
	There you go.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm Alexis Wilkins.
	I'm 25.
	I'm a political commentator.
	I have my show between the headlines over on Rumble, and I'm a country music artist.
	Oh, nice.
	Welcome.
	Do you play guitar?
	I do.
	Oh, we should have.
	Wait, I might have a guitar up in the.
	Can we hear a little singing?
	And all of my stuff is online.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Yeah, all my stuff is under my name, Alexis Wilkinson.
	We have an auto-tune in the studio.
	Oh, gosh.
	I mean, I can.
	Oh, okay, okay.
	All right.
	Just, you know.
	Andrew, what about you?
	I could just play too.
	Oh, you play guitar?
	Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right.
	My name is Andrew Wilson.
	I'm the host of The Crucible.
	I'm a political satirist, political commentator, and a Bloodsport debater.
	Okay, welcome, everybody.
	So we're going to go around the table once more.
	What is everybody's current relationship status?
	So are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule, whatever it may be?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship that you've ever been in?
	Starting with you, go ahead.
	I'm currently single.
	I've been single for five years.
	Longest relationship?
	My longest relationship was four years.
	All right.
	Gone it.
	Single for five.
	Longest for four.
	Madison, what about you?
	I'm currently in a relationship.
	My current relationship is my longest.
	Fat bastard donated $200.
	Get in my belly.
	I want my baby back, Ribs, I want my baby, back, Ribs, chilly, it's baby, back, ribs.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Fat Bastard, for the again.
	Madison, what?
	Yeah.
	Current relationship, longest relationship, it's a year and a half.
	All right.
	Sweet.
	What about you?
	Me, I'm single.
	I've been single for two years now, and the longest relationship I had was seven years.
	Seven years, got it.
	What about you?
	Well, you kind of told us, but two people.
	Totally soon to be broken up with because of this podcast.
	But yeah, no, relationship.
	They've only been, I've only been with them with one of them for like four months and the other like two.
	And before that, I had one boyfriend.
	But then before that, I was completely single and I was single for 20 three years.
	How long was the well, so what's your longest relationship?
	I'd say six months.
	Six months.
	Okay.
	Ruining it.
	All right.
	And wait, just going back to you really quick.
	So you've been in a relationship for two years, right?
	No.
	No, I've been single for two.
	Oh, single for two.
	Sorry.
	Your longest relationship was seven years.
	Sorry, I don't.
	Do you consider like a sub a relationship?
	I don't because they're like a submissive.
	So yeah, I have that, but he's not.
	Are you Dominatrix, Findo?
	No, I'm his master.
	Yes, master slave.
	Yeah, so well, I don't call him a slave.
	Okay.
	I call him my B-boy.
	B-boy?
	Bitch boy.
	Bitch boy.
	Yeah, so.
	What is a bitch boy?
	A bitch boy, he does whatever I say.
	Whatever you say.
	Yeah, he makes videos with me.
	He gives me money.
	Like, whatever I need.
	Did they just give you...
	Sorry.
	No, go ahead, go ahead.
	Do they just give you like money?
	Like, you'd be like, give me a hundred bucks.
	And he's like, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Literally.
	I say, I'm like, let me spit in your mouth.
	He's like, okay, let me, you know, whatever.
	He lets me do it.
	Huh?
	Yeah.
	But he's not my boyfriend.
	Wait, so like, what about, okay, if you were like, I want you to be a leg stand for me.
	So while you're sitting and you just like kick your legs up on his back, he would do that.
	Yes, he would crawl on the floor from outside.
	He crawls.
	He doesn't crawl.
	Yes.
	If I want to do that, but he does crawl.
	Yeah.
	Okay, he crawls.
	He'll crawl on the floor to me.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So, yeah, but that's it.
	That's all right.
	How long have you been connected to him?
	For about six months now?
	No, six, seven months, yeah.
	And he pays you money for this, right?
	Yeah, he gives me money, whatever I want.
	He gives me whatever.
	Does he do errands for you?
	No, I haven't used him for that yet.
	Not yet.
	Sometimes he'll help, like, you know, hold my camera if I need him to.
	Say if I want to make new content, you know, he'll let me use his house and stuff like that.
	Or he'll let me use him for content, stuff like that.
	Wait, so he'll hold the camera.
	And because you say you do adult content, so but are you shooting content with him or like and but does he ever hold the camera for you when you're shooting content with another man?
	Yeah, in his room, in his bed.
	In oh, so this is like a cuck.
	He's a cuck, too.
	I mean, he's not my boyfriend, so he can't be.
	How is he a cuck?
	He's not mine.
	Okay.
	He's not my man.
	He's my, he's a he's nothing.
	He's like my bitch boy.
	Like he's.
	Is it like guy?
	No.
	Okay, just check.
	I was just curious.
	I mean, I went mine, guys.
	Y'all can come.
	I love pay kids, any of that.
	You know, I'm down with it.
	I will whoop your ass.
	I will do it.
	Whatever you need me to do to make you feel like you're not shit.
	And you said your name's DeGobbler.
	Duh.
	Two A's.
	Wait, just do you ever reveal?
	Like, do you have like a normal first name, like a government name?
	Yeah, but I'm not going to tell them because my real life, I'm a nurse.
	So, you know, if I tell any of those things, then people, some like in the beginning, they were telling me, in the beginning, they were telling me, like, oh, I'm going to get you fired.
	I'm going to call the nursing board.
	They were going to try to basically make me lose my vanilla lifestyle because of what I do.
	And I understand that because when you professionally work for a nursing home, like if you are in their facility, it says you can't do certain things online.
	So me being a basically an agency nurse, I'm not through your facility.
	I'm my own entity.
	I come through many different places, wig off, no makeup, glasses on, Clark Kent type of thing.
	Nobody knows.
	And so you're an RN?
	OPN.
	OPN.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I went to school.
	I got education.
	So you are singing.
	I mean, that's a trade, but you know.
	So you are single, but you have a bitch boy.
	Yeah.
	A bitch boy who crawls.
	I mean, that's not his only.
	I mean, he's more so like a dumpster, so I could spit, like, say if I was.
	A gumpster?
	Dumpster.
	Cumpster or dumpster, whatever you want to call him.
	Dumps.
	Cumpster.
	Like a child.
	Jump with him.
	Joe.
	Oh, okay.
	I got my own money.
	No, I was just curious because you said you shoot content.
	Yeah, but that's at his place.
	Yeah.
	Wait, question.
	So, do you shoot.
	Mike Davis donated $200.
	Brian, I won't let the disrespect slide no more.
	Talking how I work at BK, Pod wasn't no numbers until I came in with the smoke.
	One day, Chat, I might take a flight down to give you a whooping.
	A whooping?
	Yo, Mike Davis, first off, I'm very clear that it's not that you own multiple chains.
	You are a proprietor.
	You are an entrepreneur.
	That's Mike Davis.
	Everybody, that is Mike Davis.
	Hey, Mike.
	Look, he's behind the counter there because he's one of these CEO types, owner types that wants to be on the front line, you know, slanging burgers.
	So, Mike Davis, listen, man.
	The invite, yo, you're welcome, brother.
	You're welcome to come anytime.
	Wait, so your guy that you're seeing, okay, he will be or sorry, you're not seeing, but who's your b-boy?
	Uh-huh.
	My b-boy.
	He will let you shoot content at his house.
	And then when it's like a mountain of spit, I can take it.
	Let's not talk about the spit, but that's why I mean a cumpster.
	That's fucking disgusting.
	Oh, shit.
	I mean, he loves it.
	But, like, do you, so do you shoot scenes with other men in his bed?
	In his bed while he holds my camera and films me.
	But he's not my girlfriend.
	But, well, it's kind.
	So he sleeps in the bed after you have sex in his bed with another man in his bed.
	Is it kind of fun?
	Unless I tell him he could wash the sheets.
	I love you.
	I have a question.
	Is it okay if I answer?
	Is it okay if I ask a question?
	Yeah.
	Is he like attracted to that?
	I just say he likes it.
	Yeah, like he likes it.
	He loves it.
	Okay, good times.
	Good times.
	What about you?
	Sorry, you already told us your relationship status.
	What about you?
	Or did you have a question for her?
	Or you already asked her?
	Okay, go ahead.
	So I am currently talking to somebody, and my longest relationship was two years.
	Currently talking.
	You're in a talking stage?
	Yes.
	How long have you been in that?
	A week.
	Oh, one week?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Are there multiple talking stages or just one?
	Just one.
	Just the one.
	Okay.
	How did you guys meet?
	Tinder.
	So you met a week ago?
	Or you knew each other for longer?
	No, we met a week ago.
	How many dates have you been on?
	Two.
	Two?
	Okay.
	All right.
	Talking stage.
	All right.
	What about you?
	So my longest relationship was two years.
	I am currently single and have been single since then.
	That was my only relationship.
	And I am single not because I'm hoeing around, because I'm just focused on work.
	Like I said earlier, I do Twitch full-time, and I'm also doing real estate, so that kind of takes up all my time.
	Okay, cool.
	And so you've been single for two years, that's correct?
	I've been single for four years.
	Oh, four years.
	Oh, my God.
	Sorry, guys.
	I don't listen.
	The relationship was two years long.
	The relationship was two years long.
	Okay, I mixed those up.
	What about you?
	I am in a relationship, and I have been for a year.
	All right, cool.
	Andrew, what about you?
	Married, have been for 100 years.
	100 years.
	He is a vampire, folks.
	All right.
	The vampire was last episode, I think.
	Okay, cool.
	Let me do one chat here.
	This one, unfortunately, hey, we bumped the threshold for today's episode.
	So, sorry.
	I know you wanted this to come through as a TTS.
	I'll read it.
	Fuck it.
	My Raffle Copter goes.
	So, so, Donate it.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Um, yeah, we did bump the triggers for today, but thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Uh, yeah, there it is.
	Okay, cool.
	So, one thing I'd like to start off with.
	Good jumping off point.
	Actually, before I do that, going around the table.
	Are your parents still together?
	No.
	No, my mom is deceased.
	Sorry?
	No.
	No.
	Divorced and remarried, both of them.
	Okay.
	No.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	All right.
	And yes for me.
	Okay.
	So, jumping off point here.
	I like to start with people who disagree with me or the show.
	Maybe you've seen a clip of myself.
	Maybe you've seen a clip of Andrew here who's been on the show a couple of times.
	So does anybody disagree with anything that you've seen?
	That's a good place to start, and then we'll get into some of the pre-show notes that you guys provided.
	Anything?
	Not at this moment.
	No.
	Madison?
	This is your chance, Madison.
	No.
	This is your chance.
	Anything?
	You're going to be in the moment thing.
	You're going to like sit and I'll get annoyed at you.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	We can do that too.
	It just triggered me right now.
	It's just sometimes people watch the show, they come on, they disagree.
	Okay, cool.
	So, what we're gonna do first, actually, is I want to react to a video, Nick.
	It's gonna be our big video.
	The Man on the Street video we're gonna react to.
	Actually, we should all wait.
	How many girls here do OF?
	Three?
	We might actually want to redo the Sean Evans one because that was kind of related.
	And we only had maybe, we'll see.
	Let me ask the chat.
	Chat, should we ask this panel about the Sean Evans breaking up with his P-Star girlfriend?
	Nick, if you're able to pull up the chat, Sean Evans?
	Tentatively, if you can, pull it up tentatively.
	Last time we only had one girl who did adult content, so it might, you know, kind of fell flat.
	A lot of yeses.
	I'm seeing a lot of yeses on the Sean Evans thing.
	So we'll do the reaction to the video first, then Nick will pull up the Sean Evans.
	You can work on the Sean Evans things while we're getting the reaction to the video.
	and understanding of the person and accepting their flaws what's the worst thing a man can do during sex The worst?
	I don't know.
	I've never had sex.
	Neither have I. You guys aren't virgins.
	Yeah, we are.
	Ain't no way.
	Yep.
	Why haven't you done it yet?
	We're very religious.
	For marriage?
	Yep, yes.
	Okay.
	Now be honest with me, when you come out to the clubs, in Miami especially, and you dress how you dress, do you think...
	I dress how I dress!
	Yes.
	What does that mean?
	I'm saying exactly how you are right now.
	Which means implying what?
	Well, let me finish the question.
	Okay.
	I would just like you to express details on what you said.
	What details are you interested in?
	You said dress how you dress.
	Please don't dress.
	When you have your belly out, you're wearing tight clothing and you're showing cleavage.
	With cleavage, okay.
	Do you not have your cleavage out?
	These are attached to my body, so that she has.
	That I have.
	Exactly.
	Of course, but you can help what you wear, though.
	Exactly.
	So finish your question.
	So my question is: do you think that when a man looks at you, he's thinking, this is somebody who I want to make my wife one day?
	Or is this just a girl who I could probably have fun with?
	I never could answer and think about what men are.
	I have never gone to the club to meet a man.
	I go to dance with my friends.
	I don't want to find my husband at the club.
	Just as much as the man doesn't want to find his wife at the show.
	So it's not to seek validation at all from a man?
	When I get dressed, I never think about what a man wants.
	I think about how I feel.
	The man's opinion is never something is never something that's validating ever.
	What's your age?
	Puzzle.
	Okay, so the first thing I, there's two different things there.
	So to start, both those girls claimed that they were virgins, which I think is perhaps dubious based on how they were dressed.
	The girl on the right was not blasted in tattoos, but had quite a few tattoos, which I suppose it's possible you can be a virgin club goer who's fairly tatted up, but it kind of raises an eyebrow.
	So the first question is: do you think that girl who was tatted up out clubbing in Miami, she wasn't dressed super revealing, but a little revealing.
	Do you think she's a virgin or do you think she's lying?
	Starting with you.
	And we'll go around the table.
	I think she's a virgin.
	I feel like, you know, you should be able to just freely live your life.
	It doesn't matter whether you have sex or not.
	And the chats welcome to weigh in on this too.
	I mean, obviously she could be, but considering she claimed she was extremely religious but still did the activities that she was doing, you could tell that was kind of a lie already.
	Well, the religious claim could have been dubious, also.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Like, since there was a lie, like a possible lie already there, what else could she be lying about?
	It also took her a while to answer that she was a virgin.
	Me, I believe them because why would they lie?
	You know, why would someone lie?
	Yeah.
	No, why would they lie to him about, you know, the question?
	Why would they lie?
	What was the point in lying to him?
	I could think of a bunch of reasons that might lie.
	I mean, if they saying they don't care what men think or how they think about them, like, why lie to a man about if you had sex or not?
	If that is your point.
	I'm not sure what the reasons might be for why they would lie, but I'm detecting a lie.
	I detect a lie.
	I mean, you would detect a lie because of how they dress, but, you know.
	And the tattoos.
	Virgins can't have tattoos.
	God forbid.
	I mean, okay, she's out clubbing, so, I mean, I don't know what the scene is like in Miami.
	She's over 21.
	It just doesn't really clubber, tattooed.
	Look, you could be a virgin, but, you know, dress like a duck, act like a duck, quack like a duck, you're probably a duck.
	I mean, but they're proving y'all point.
	I mean, proving their point is in they don't care what you guys think about them, you know, at the point.
	Well, it's not about what they care or don't care about.
	It's whether she's lying or not about it.
	Oh, I mean, yeah, I mean.
	Okay, fair.
	Well, I think it's more satire than anything else.
	Like, because it's a dickhead question to ask someone, isn't it?
	If you woke up somebody, you a virgin, of course I'm going to be a virgin.
	Well, he didn't ask if they were a virgin.
	He asked, like, what's the worst thing a man could do in bed?
	And they were like, they offered up that they were virgins.
	Oh, shit, I wasn't paying attention.
	I'm sorry.
	I was.
	I was.
	But, like, in the sense of, like, you walk up to a guy, you ask her a question like that.
	She isn't more than entitled to turn around to you in satire and be like, I'm a virgin.
	And there should be no questions asked about that.
	Are we not allowed to make jokes?
	Or do we have to say that?
	I mean, they should be funny.
	I thought it was.
	Well, it was, but not for the reasons you're saying it was.
	But I, oh, well, we obviously find entertainment different.
	I actually, yeah, I like things that are funny.
	I like things that are also funny.
	Well, what made that funny thing?
	And a woman taking control of the situation was funny.
	And him being a bit like, she wasn't taking control.
	Well, it's funny for me.
	She didn't take control of the situation.
	She got what she wanted.
	She got mad, right?
	Ow!
	How dare you?
	I can't believe that you would ever assume that me, dressed like I'm dressed, would ever think for a minute that I might, you know, kind of be a little on the promiscuous side.
	But that's the joke.
	What's the joke?
	That, like, the whole, the coming for a woman to be like...
	Grid One Motorsports donated $200.
	What a panel of win we have here.
	Double Bubble is more of a virgin than the girls in the video.
	Just the way they hesitated and changed their posture when they looked at each other and decided to lie.
	Come on, those chicks were full of shit.
	I'm not saying they were full of shit.
	Why did I say that?
	I actually, I think I know what you're saying.
	So I actually kind of agree with your assessment in that they kind of were joking.
	Like they were.
	Now, I agree with Andrew.
	It's not a funny joke.
	But I think they were lying and they were kind of like turning it.
	Turning it on him, but yeah, then they got a bit more.
	It was a bit of a dismissive answer to his question because they didn't really want to engage.
	So they're just like, oh, I'm just out here because I'm super religious.
	What?
	What?
	Come on.
	What do you think?
	So what I saw.
	Yo, Miss Nims, thank you for the gifted 20 memberships.
	Appreciate it.
	Go ahead.
	So when I saw the video, it looked like as soon as he asked that question, they got really like aggressive and they lied about it.
	In my opinion, they lied about it.
	No, I'm religious.
	I'm Christian.
	Am I a virgin?
	Absolutely not.
	But based, I don't go to clubs much either.
	But based on how they're dressed, based on their posture when they were asked that question, I really think they were lying.
	Could it have been satire?
	Body lying?
	Absolutely.
	Plus, the other one came in as like a support mechanism.
	The first one's like, wait, the other one's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's right.
	Yeah, we're virgins.
	What about you?
	I don't, and I never have understood why men care so much.
	If you're intending to be in a relationship with this woman, to date them, be their girlfriend, wife, whatever, I can understand wanting to know that or be concerned about that.
	But I don't know why so many random men care so much about women's body count and whether or not they're a virgin or not.
	Could those two women have been virgins?
	Absolutely.
	Could they have been sluts?
	Absolutely.
	I don't think there's any way of telling, only they know the answer to that.
	And I don't know why random men care.
	Well, let me ask you something.
	Let's assume for a second that you were rolling the dice and it was your life on the line.
	And if you got the wrong answer, wrong answer, that's it.
	It's lights out.
	First answer, they're virgins.
	The second answer, they're not.
	What's your answer, Malik?
	Yeah, based on how they were dressed, the tattoos, the cleavage, the stomach showing, I would assume that they weren't.
	And Malik, I think you're going to survive.
	My life was on the line, but normally I wouldn't assume I don't care about other women's body counts.
	Can I say something quick?
	Could they not have just been virgins because they were over the age of 20?
	Fucking two?
	Like, why do we have to keep going?
	Because of what they were wearing, because of the tattoos?
	I don't know.
	Which age matters.
	Well, no, it's all of that, right?
	When you could legally lose your virginity.
	I don't know what the age it is here, but in England, you can lose your virginity at 16.
	So most people are going to assume, people over 16, 18, you're going to not be a virgin.
	So why does it matter that they had pretty...
	I thought their clothes were pretty.
	I would wear that.
	They weren't that provocative, in my opinion.
	It could have been way more.
	Yeah, it wasn't extreme.
	Well, one was dressed a bit more revealing than the other, but the one on the left was not that.
	It might have the hookers or something like that.
	I can see her coochie.
	Continue.
	Go ahead.
	Again, I don't understand why it matters.
	And I do agree with what you were saying before about they got defensive and kind of respond with satire, like, oh, I'm a virgin.
	I don't want to talk about my sexual experiences in bed.
	But at the end of the day, like, because I deal with that a lot.
	A lot of times men will come up to me and assume my body count is high.
	Like I said, I've only been in one relationship.
	I've only slept with one person in my life.
	And people just assume if I dress a certain way or I'm attractive, and I dress pretty conservatively usually.
	I don't know why random men care about.
	Because we're pattern recognition machines.
	And so what happens is that if we see a pattern all the time of certain behaviors, then what ends up happening is we make these assumptions.
	Now you're right.
	They're not always right.
	They're not always right.
	Okay, but you can understand why people do it.
	You do it yourself.
	Yes, I understand that.
	But if you make this assumption, then why don't you just rule that person out in your dating field?
	Yeah, Bill, well, you might, but the point of this was he was on the street conducting interviews.
	So, and part of his show is obviously to try to understand the engagement between men and women.
	So I completely understand why it was that he was asking that question.
	They have a right to do whatever they want, but I mean, it's reasonable to think, you know, based on the patterns, based on what we see, right, we can kind of make these assumptions.
	Yes, we're going to be wrong sometimes, but we're mostly not going to be, right?
	I'd agree with that to a certain degree, but again, I don't see the point.
	The point of what?
	The point of men caring what a woman who has nothing to do with their life's body count is.
	I don't think most men do care, but we do care about the women who we might be pursuing romantically.
	That's what I said.
	If you're pursuing a woman romantically, it's perfectly fine to ask about their body count and maybe if they dress promiscuously to question, hey, are you sure you're a virgin?
	Or are you sure your body count is what you say it is?
	That's completely understandable if you're pursuing that person.
	But if it's just a random woman, she tells you she's a virgin, why are you going to have a back and forth about it?
	Well, because he didn't want to suspend his disbelief.
	Initially, he also didn't ask what their body count was.
	He brought enough of it.
	It's like if you're walking down the street and there's an alarm going off, and a guy has a ski mask on and an AR and a bag of money, and you're like, hey, that bank's alarm's going off.
	You're making assumptions, right?
	Well, it's true.
	You are, but.
	And like I said, if someone was life or death, you had to assume were they virgins or not?
	I would have assumed that.
	Just based on their appearance, but I don't know why men get offended at all.
	Grid one Motorsports donated $200.
	Yes, men must assume that if you dress like, hang out with, and go places that 304s go, then you are probably not a virgin.
	And we have to care.
	No man worth having wants to data see men receptacle.
	By the way, I love that.
	All right.
	The best super chatter is grid one.
	And also.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	So, also, he was asking a question.
	They responded by saying that they were virgins.
	So he probed based off of their questions.
	And he perhaps even detected on his own, just based off of our own observations that we made, based on how they're dressed, based on their tattoos, but also perhaps based on the way they answered, which we kind of brought up, you know, he was probing, like, is this, are you guys serious?
	Like, da-da-da.
	So, your thoughts on this?
	Also, could you scoot that way just a little bit?
	Your thoughts?
	Yeah, I mean, I think that they were joking, but I think that they were lying.
	And I also think that, you know, these videos, they get sectioned out so that people can just, you know, react to this.
	But, you know, I work with PragerU.
	We do Man on the Street videos all the time.
	You walk up to people and you either get a written permission that you can put them on camera and ask them questions, or somewhere in the can, they have an audio visual with them saying, Yes, I don't mind answering these questions.
	So it's always funny to me when people get on camera and then they have these very evasive or aggressive responses.
	And so when I watch this and whether they're joking or not, whether they're lying or not, I think this is a meritocracy.
	They're lying.
	Let's judge them on that.
	I think that this aggressive response, I always think it's funny when people react that way, given they consented to be on camera.
	Okay.
	Andrew, your thoughts on the are they virgin.
	Well, I think you maybe already went into it.
	Okay, well, let me make it abundantly clear.
	They're fucking lying.
	Okay, there you go.
	And then the other thing I was going to ask.
	The video, okay.
	Wait, what was the other thing I was going to ask?
	You didn't mention it.
	How am I blanking on the.
	I feel like I need to re-watch the video again.
	Wait, how they were dressed?
	It was something.
	Oh my God.
	It was like, wasn't it judging by what they're wearing?
	Yeah.
	Oh, I guess, yeah.
	Do you think that he was off base for, aside from whether they were lying or not about the virgin thing?
	What do you think about his comments about how they were dressed?
	Was that even my fucking question?
	God damn it.
	Is that even your point?
	I honestly feel like it's just every man does it.
	You know what I'm saying?
	They just judge you off of looks instead of getting to know you first.
	Like, that's everybody's first thing to do is just judge you off of your appearance.
	And I think it's BS because you could dress like what I'm wearing today and you could be the most innocent person in the world.
	You just, you don't know.
	But don't you talk to appearance?
	Fat bastard donated 200.
	Oh, he's got fat.
	Get in my belly.
	I want my baby back, Ribs, I want my baby, back, Ribs, chili is baby, back, ribs.
	Okay, thank you for the third time.
	Thank you, fat bastard.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you for still.
	It's still funny, though.
	It's still funny.
	It's funny.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate your patronage.
	Did you have more on that?
	You had a question.
	Yeah, I was just saying, I mean, you do that too, though, right?
	I mean, yeah, but it's not all about appearance.
	No, I'm not saying you should glance at somebody and say, okay, yeah, they're dressed nice or they're dressed, you know, decent, but it's not just for you.
	But like a guy is way shorter than you, right?
	Like, wouldn't that be a thing that you would go?
	But that's because that's not my preference.
	I don't like short men.
	But you judge him off appearance.
	That's not for me.
	No, I didn't judge him because I didn't say, oh, well, he has less money or he doesn't have a good career.
	No, but I mean, you judged him against your preference.
	Well, yeah, but that's not the same thing.
	It's the same thing.
	No, it's not.
	How could it not be?
	Because you're judging someone based on your preference, right?
	No, it's not preference.
	You're judging them just because you think, okay, she dressed provocatively.
	She does, you know, ho shit.
	Yeah, and I have and I have a preference against that, right?
	But some people don't.
	I know, Pimp.
	Some people don't, but you, the individual with a preference, would be like, we can agree to this.
	That's a society thing, provocative, what she's wearing, that's society's view.
	That's not our personal view.
	When you like people put into boxes, like, she's dressed like a slut.
	She's dressed like a this.
	That's a society standard that has been placed upon someone.
	Sorry.
	And what's society made up of?
	People, but it's a group opinion.
	And group opinions are made up of individual opinions that the most amount of those individuals have.
	You can have a different opinion to a society opinion.
	You can, but I'm just saying, if you're looking at averages, you're saying, look, I'm not going to be an average.
	Yes, but if most people hold the opinion, that's why stereotypes exist.
	Yes, but that's, but that's not what you were asking her.
	Yeah, we're having a different conversation.
	No, because you said she doesn't like short people.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	She has preferences.
	Yeah, you asked me.
	Yeah.
	Sorry.
	I didn't mean to interrupt you, but you asked me if I see a short man, would I judge him?
	And I said, no, I'm not judging him.
	I'm just not going to look his way because that's not my preference.
	Then that's a judgment.
	It's not a judge.
	How could it be anything other than a judgment?
	Well, I feel a certain type of thing.
	Let me see if I can demonstrate it to you.
	Let's say that you're on a blind date.
	Okay.
	Room's totally dark.
	You can't see him.
	Would you judge him on your height if you couldn't see it?
	If I reach out to you touch him.
	No, no, no.
	You can't see it.
	You stand that man up.
	You can't do any of that.
	You don't have that requisite information.
	Would you judge him on his height?
	I can't if I can't see him.
	The second you see it, though, you make that judgment.
	It's not, but I don't feel like it's a judgment thing.
	Can you scoot your mic this way?
	Yeah, personally.
	Well, like, to kind of be as charitable as it can be to this, I think I understand.
	And you can correct me if I'm wrong.
	You're saying when you're talking about judgment.
	Yeah.
	When you think of judgment, you think of something negative.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But let's take that view away for a second.
	Okay.
	So we're not talking about negativity, but just general judgments.
	Like if you're going to go across the street, you don't want to go where the traffic's busy, right?
	Right.
	Good judgment, right?
	Right.
	Okay.
	Now I understand.
	Yeah, you see what I'm saying?
	I can agree with you.
	Let me read this really quick.
	It didn't come through.
	If you dress like a.
	Oh, wow.
	Oh.
	Hey, she was a hooa.
	You're going to be seen as a.
	Hey, she was a hoo-a.
	Feminism has made women think they should sexualize themselves, then be about it.
	Have some self-respect.
	The patriarchy is here for you.
	Well, honestly, some of us don't really care if you see us as whores, you know, because some of us don't want to be your wife.
	Some of us don't want to be in relationship with you guys.
	Some of us are really just here to get your money, honestly.
	So, you know, if you're looking at people, if I know that getting your money is me, if I dress provocative, if I do this, that I do that, that's going to attract you.
	You know, because you're looking for a wife.
	So you're going to go for a woman who is dressed a certain type of way.
	But me, I want your cash.
	So I'm going to act a certain way and I'm going to talk to you a certain way so that the people who are interested in me as a dominant woman, they're going to come to me because they want me.
	So think about this.
	So what you're saying is, based on all those prerequisites and the way that you ask, you're going to attract the exact type of whatever that you want to attract, right?
	Yes, of course.
	So then a stereotype will exist based on those things and people make those judgment calls and they'll probably be right.
	But I've never said people don't judge.
	No, no, no, no, right, right.
	I'm not saying it every single day.
	People inbox me every day, unprovoked hate, you know, just because of what I do.
	So it's like, it's not really, I know people judge.
	I get that.
	But I use it towards my advantage because I know people judge.
	No, I get that.
	I'm just saying that understandably, if what they are judging based on this is probably accurate.
	That's good.
	Because that word living, we live in America.
	Go to another country in Africa where tits are out walking down the street.
	Are you going to call her a whore?
	No, the judgment's going to be different.
	That's different because it's a different society, just like she told you.
	Sure.
	It depends on wherever you are, whatever society you are in.
	That is the opinion you have.
	So if I was born somewhere else, me outside with my titties out would not offend you.
	Yeah, but you're not.
	I'm not in here, but it doesn't matter.
	Yeah, I get it because.
	But if you were in the other.
	I'm not looking for what America society is here to give.
	Yeah, I mean, but you are, though, right?
	Because here, I'll explain.
	Please.
	So let's assume that you're in this different nation.
	And the standard for what they considered women who were looking for the preference of attracting people so they can get their money was that they dressed in sundresses.
	Would you dress in a sundress?
	Yeah.
	Well, then you've just set the societal standard for how we can judge whether or not you're kind of a.
	I'm not disputing that.
	Yeah, but that's the whole point.
	And that's why the judgments there would be the same as the judgments here.
	And generally speaking, they'd be right.
	Yeah, but what I'm saying is that just, I'm just agreeing with what she said that this is a societal norm.
	And us here in America, we look at stuff a certain way.
	In a different area, it's looked at a different way, which is agreeable.
	It's just where you're born at.
	Yeah, I'm not disputing that.
	You're doing such a generalization, though.
	And that's like, you can't take everything and be like, yeah, cool.
	So this one time and then this second time, then this was a thing.
	So therefore, it's all a thing.
	That's what men do.
	I thought I was talking to a man.
	Well, let me ask you this.
	It's just a jokey joke.
	Go ahead.
	If you had to choose between crossing the street where there was a lot of traffic or crossing the street where there was very little traffic.
	But we're not talking about traffic.
	Just answer the question.
	It's not the same thing.
	I'm sorry.
	Which street would you cross?
	I'm not traffic.
	I'm not trafficking.
	I'm excited.
	I didn't know that, but can you answer the question?
	I'm not going to because I'm not traffic.
	You're not going to answer the question.
	I'm not traffic.
	Okay.
	When did I walk in here with a big old two headlights in my head shining, blinking?
	Are we in the cars, man?
	Are we in the cars?
	Do you realize, though, that I'm just making an analogy to test your logic?
	What you're doing is you're making an analogy on inatimate objects and situations which don't comply to society.
	How do you know?
	Didn't answer the question.
	And then I'll look stupid.
	Because you're just going to go, oh, well, that's what I expected you to say.
	But you've done it like five times already.
	Because that would mean that the generalization would be correct.
	Generalization is correct, but not when you're talking about people's emotions and feelings.
	Sorry, no.
	Prove it.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Show me how generalization is not correct when you're talking about people's emotions and feelings.
	Like for right now, I can tell that you're animated.
	That's a general statement.
	Am I wrong?
	This might just be the way I am all the time.
	I'm quite an excitable person, actually.
	You could ask my friends.
	So you're an excitable person and you're animated.
	And I made the general statement that you're animated, and I'm right.
	Yeah, but what?
	Yeah, but nothing.
	No, because you're still doing it again.
	I know.
	It's people's feelings that you're putting out there and that you're generalizing.
	So, and I would generally get it wrong.
	Someone is a slut because she wore a nice pink dress.
	You didn't call anybody a slut.
	The thing here is the conversation from this side of the table is: I'm hearing that some people are okay with being a hoe.
	I think that was an exact, and that was an exact quote.
	You know, I'm not.
	I do not care about what you're doing.
	I'm quoting.
	So, here's, I'm not saying there's a problem.
	Okay.
	I'm saying that grid one motorsports donated $200.
	Brian, I am off for the night.
	Flying tomorrow and tired flying gets you killed.
	Maybe you remind the panel: this is a dating panel, not a who panel.
	So if you want to end up alone with cats, keep keeping on.
	I do.
	I would love to have a bunch of people.
	I actually have a lot of people.
	And that's really my point.
	How many?
	I would probably have like three dogs and maybe like two cats.
	Three dogs and two.
	Yo, grid one, thank you.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Because they will take care of me.
	You know, I just have to give them some, you know, clean stuff.
	All right.
	Clean this.
	And that's kind of my point: if that's your goal, and that's what I'm hearing communicated from this side from that corner.
	What he's saying and what you're saying are not dissimilar.
	You're making a judgment upon yourself.
	He's making a judgment.
	Oh, I know me.
	That's fine.
	I love taking out the negative connotation of judgment because I think that's totally fair because it doesn't have to be negative.
	And so I think you guys are kind of saying the same thing.
	And I, you in the middle of the day.
	Are you somewhere hers?
	Yeah, we are.
	They were the one going back and forth.
	No, I know, but she was the same thing.
	No.
	That was a good idea.
	Because when it comes to emotion, it's totally different.
	But it's not really totally different.
	It is because when you go out of your way to hurt someone's feelings, like in that thing, like those guys were offended and they were ups.
	Those girls who agreed to be on camera and answers questions got really offended by the questions that they were then asked.
	But that's it's the same way like we're on this podcast and we're talking about things that are going to get heated.
	Things get heated.
	I've agreed to be on this podcast.
	I've agreed to you're kind of going against your own point right now.
	No, I'm not.
	I've agreed to be on this podcast.
	I've agreed to accept what is being said to me.
	I'm still allowed to get offended.
	Sorry, when was that?
	Yeah, you can get offended.
	That's fine.
	So they were allowed to get offended.
	They were allowed to get upset.
	So you said that they weren't allowed to get out.
	They were allowed to get offended.
	You just did.
	Wait, when?
	Because I just said, like, it's people's feelings, and you were like, it doesn't count with emotion.
	Generalizations don't count with emotion.
	Yeah, and we're talking about those two girls.
	Yeah, and I'm generalizing about their emotions.
	But opinions.
	But almost there, the light bulb's about to go.
	Come on, it's about to go.
	We're so close.
	It's about to dig.
	Come on.
	I just.
	They were offended, and they're more entitled to be offended.
	What was being implied on them?
	The word, unfortunately, the one that he has to bleep out, is an offensive word in our society.
	And he was referring to that as them.
	They got offended.
	They're allowed to get offended.
	Generalizations on what girls wear to call them things like SU.
	I might not say the what?
	Yeah, but he didn't, that guy didn't call them any of those things.
	A sloot?
	A sloot.
	He wasn't inferring it.
	You could infer that that was.
	There's no way you're not a virgin.
	Why did we drink that way?
	How do we know that some things are fair?
	Well, wait a second.
	If the inference is that he thought they were a sloop, then they were generalizing about his emotional state, weren't they?
	They both made assumptions there, but one of them isn't okay.
	When you're offending people, I don't know.
	I just don't think it's nice to be mean to people.
	But if I didn't like redheads.
	Your emotions are irrelevant.
	I still don't like redheads.
	Not still but mean.
	That's an opinion, though.
	Wait, you don't like redheads?
	No, no, no.
	Everybody's dog piloting.
	I sit in the corner with friends.
	Emotions are irrelevant when it comes to other people's opinions and generalizations.
	That is true, though.
	No, everyone's entitled to their own opinions.
	Opinions are like also.
	Everyone has a lot of opinions.
	Well, not everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
	And some people might have two opinions.
	Not some.
	No, that was entitled to your opinion, but I'm not going to say that.
	Everything I just said, Simon, I said, that was one.
	Well, here, we were going around the table getting people's just general reactions to that interaction.
	I don't know exactly where we were.
	Yeah, me.
	Yeah, I think, yeah.
	Okay.
	So when I'll tell you something.
	So when that guy that I'm talking to recently, we went on our first date, sushi.
	And the first thing he asked me, well, not the first thing, but he asked me and he said, would it be okay if, you know, like if you were going out on a night with your friends or something and you were wearing something that I didn't like, would you be okay compromising with me to wear something better?
	I was not offended by that.
	I thought that was okay because it's communication and that's what matters because we're both striving to have a future together.
	And it also depends on the woman too.
	If he was on a date with another woman and another woman got offended by that, but I didn't get offended by that, it also depends on the woman.
	It also, it strongly depends on the woman and how they're how they're taught and what they're comfortable with.
	And like I said, I was okay with it.
	You're a better woman than me, babe.
	What?
	I said you're a better woman than me, babe.
	I'm really argumentative.
	I'm a bat.
	Better.
	Sorry, better.
	I was giving you a compliment.
	fishnet fatty on the right donated 206 dollars and 69 cents Don't insult me.
	Come on.
	If not, do I have a shot?
	I'm white, five feet 10 inches, semi-jaft rich, and 100% authentic African American below the belt.
	P.S. Get the four-eyed pig off the show.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	What the fuck?
	Sorry.
	You're nasty.
	Sorry.
	Madison, do you want to respond?
	I already have a boyfriend that checks all those boxes.
	I get you a hug.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Did you know why?
	I don't like white guys, so...
	It works out, men.
	wait just really quick you cracked on that you don't like not not like no like no no no like Like, I don't date white guys.
	What?
	Just curious why.
	So I just love darker skin tone.
	It's just the melanin for me.
	I don't know why.
	It's the melanin.
	The melon.
	It's the melanin for it.
	So when you say darker skin, are you talking Latinos, black?
	Anything other than my skin tone?
	Anything other than white.
	Anything other than my skin tone?
	What about like a light-skinned black person?
	Yeah.
	That's okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	My ex-fiancé ruined that for me.
	White people for you?
	Yeah.
	I'm curious if, like, let's say your ex-fiancé was black, and then we just were to reverse and say, well, my ex-fiancé who was black, he ruined everything for me.
	That might be a little questionable of a statement, maybe.
	Maybe it's just your preference.
	No, look, I think you can have racial dating preferences.
	I agree with you.
	But when you say, I think if you specifically say, well, I dated this one specific white person.
	Maybe I got it not to say because of your excuse.
	I guess it's not because of my ex, but.
	Well, that's what you just said.
	I know.
	Okay.
	I feel like you could blame it on your experience.
	So my ex-fiancé cheated on me 10 times.
	And I stayed with him all of those 10 times.
	So you think all white guys are cheaters?
	No.
	So when he cheated on me all those 10 times.
	Was it with black men?
	And that's why you're...
	Wait, wait, you said he cheated on me with...
	He cheated on you with ten black men.
	No, no, no.
	Oh, okay.
	I thought maybe that was the basis of your music.
	Did you cheat on him with black men?
	I'm confused.
	No.
	I wanted to review his race.
	Were there any men involved with him?
	With him.
	I don't know.
	Oh, okay.
	But he cheated on you with 10 times.
	10 times.
	Damn, that's.
	10 times.
	And so this one was kind of.
	So there was one instance.
	This is when I was pregnant with his kid.
	Oh.
	And the story has gotten deep.
	So I was pregnant with this kid.
	This is around July.
	And I lived in a small town at the time.
	So I came out.
	We were in an argument about something.
	I don't remember what the argument was about.
	And then he came outside.
	And I said, why won't you let me see your phone?
	You know, I'm not a controlling person.
	And he's like, I'll let you see my phone, but I got to delete someone first.
	And instantly, I already knew something was red flag.
	And I was like, why?
	And he's like, well, I'm in an argument with somebody.
	I just got to get rid of them so that way it's not harmful for you and the baby.
	So he deleted that person.
	We were going in my car to go see his dad.
	I saw that he had a kick account.
	I checked his kick.
	So you know, like those scammer robots, like the ones on Snapchat, Instagram that like ask you to pay for photos?
	Sorry, this one cracks me up every time.
	As soon as I saw that chat, he was saying, I love you to it.
	To a body.
	To a body.
	Yes, to a body.
	Like it was a real person.
	That's the embarrassing.
	And I didn't even cry.
	I didn't even flinch.
	I just started laughing.
	Yeah, that's quite funny.
	Good times.
	And then he cheated on me like two more times after that?
	Wait, and so you have a kid?
	Yes, I have a son.
	Okay.
	One son.
	But you guys, how old's the son?
	He turned two in December.
	Two in December.
	How long have you been split with?
	We split in, so we got together in 2019.
	And then I split with him in 2022.
	Would you date an Italian?
	Yeah.
	What about a Filipino man?
	Because they have darker skin.
	Wait, you date an Italian guy?
	Would I date an Italian guy?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	They have a little bit darker skin.
	Ah, I see.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You're talking like the Irish.
	I'm talking like pale, pale.
	Pale.
	Like me.
	Yeah.
	I'm too pale.
	Yeah.
	And Agmatets.
	Redheads.
	I don't know.
	Blue eyes.
	If they have blue eyes, it's no-go.
	I mean, they can have a darker skin tone and have blue eyes.
	That's true.
	That's a very sexy combination, actually.
	Very sexy.
	I have a good friend of mine that's darker skin tone and she has blue eyes.
	Okay.
	Getting back to our reactions here to the video.
	What about you?
	Your thoughts?
	About the outfits.
	Well, just your general reaction to the interaction, yeah.
	Yeah, I think the interaction was pretty awkward.
	I don't know what you both stated why they got so defensive after they agreed to do the interview.
	And I think they did a really shitty attempt at making a joke about themselves being virgins, and they didn't expect to be pressed about it.
	And then when he directly started attacking her outfit, you know, showing cleavage, showing her midriff, I think she got offended because he was right.
	Someone who is not meaning to be sexualized obviously wouldn't dress in that way.
	And all women say, oh, I'm just dressing for myself, which at the end of the day, maybe they are, but you know that if you dress a certain way, men are going to see you a certain way.
	Okay.
	I mean, I think that they knew that, again, I'll say that they knew they were being interviewed when they agreed to do it.
	I think that, you know, there's some accountability for the way that you dress, kind of like you said.
	I agree.
	I think that there's, you know, they can say all they want that it was for themselves or it's because we're on Miami or whatever the reason was.
	Like, I've been in Miami.
	I understand.
	But, you know, there's some accountability in how you present yourself.
	And only when you get on a questionnaire video do you really say like, oh, like, well, it's for me.
	It's, well, you know, it's kind of an attention thing, even if they weren't looking for a guy.
	You know, I think I pretty much stated my thoughts on it previously, but that's, that's, it's an attention thing.
	Even if they're not, you know, out in the club looking for a guy that they would settle down with, which I'm going to go ahead and assume that they weren't.
	They even just like instigated it on themselves.
	Like, they were just asking a person, like, oh, why don't you think I'm a virgin?
	Say something about my outfit.
	Exactly.
	What do you think about my outfit?
	Why do you think that about my outfit?
	Yeah, so they were kind of asking for it.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Exactly.
	They asked for them.
	They asked for it.
	Right.
	It's kind of that thing where, you know, oh, we don't want you to have an opinion on what I wear.
	Oh, don't have an opinion on what I wear.
	Oh, guys can't have an opinion.
	Don't judge a woman.
	But like, they were asking for that.
	That's a great point.
	Any closing thoughts, Andrew, on this specific video?
	I don't think that women dress like that for themselves either.
	I honestly just don't know.
	I don't believe it.
	I don't believe it.
	I don't think that they go out in public like that.
	I don't want anybody to look at me.
	No, don't look.
	No, I do it for you.
	What's bullshit?
	Do you know what I do it for?
	When I'm in the toilet and a really, really hot girl turns around to me and goes, you look really nice.
	That makes my night.
	Over a guy hitting on me, 100%.
	A girl going to me, where's your dress from?
	It's so pretty.
	Or your makeup looks nice.
	I'm like, yeah, look at me.
	I love that.
	I love that shit.
	I mean, the club is for.
	Fat bastard donated $200.
	Get in my belly.
	I want my baby back, Ribs, I want my baby, back, Ribs.
	Chili is baby back, ribs.
	That's like.
	All right, okay.
	That's a lot, man.
	Hey, thank you for your patronage.
	Appreciate it.
	I think you were about to say that.
	I was saying, like, okay, they're going to the club.
	We're supposed to dress a certain way.
	Like, how when we got the thing, it told us, you know, what we can wear to come here.
	And they say, you know, one of the club attire.
	Devon Jackson donated $200.
	Devon?
	I dress for myself just means I dress for the way I feel when people who could slash see me online.
	It's not that deep.
	I'll take pics to post them and he'll go out dressed a certain way to be looked at.
	Right, right.
	So what I was saying, like the club is where we go to have fun, the entertainment, where you know you're going to be seen.
	So you wear club attire when you go out.
	So of course, when you see somebody on a Miami street leaving a club dressed in club attire, why does it have to be slut wear?
	It's literally when we go to Fashion Nova or whatever, we put in club wear.
	We don't put in slut wear, horror wear.
	We put in clubwear because it's a specific type of clothing that you wear when you go out.
	Because I think that probably the stereotype exists and probably rightly that women who go out to nightclubs a lot probably fairly loose women.
	That's fine.
	I mean, that's fine.
	That is fine.
	But I don't see the point in it being demonized because they're going to the club.
	I'm not sure he demonized as much as he was just couldn't suspend his disbelief.
	Well, you did just call them loose.
	That's true.
	He was stuck on the virgin thing though.
	A loose woman just means like, you know, maybe promiscuous.
	Does it?
	I would say if someone's calling me loose, they're going to say I've a loose vagina.
	When mine is pretty tight, behaviorally.
	Is that not a lot of everybody has their own thought process when it comes to being called loose?
	I guess that's when they say loose, they try to say you maybe it's just different in England.
	Because if you said that to a girl in England, you would literally be saying it was snagging.
	Well, that also would apply here, but it's like you could use that term to specifically talk about that.
	But loose, I think more in general means she's promiscuous.
	Right.
	Okay, that doesn't in England, you get slapped.
	I mean, more time, nine times out of ten, nobody is saying you're loose in your face.
	They're saying it online behind TV screens.
	Nobody has ever said anything to me disrespectful in my face ever.
	Like, unless you're trying to show off for this type of thing, nobody has ever came to me and said, oh, you fat pig, or oh, this and that.
	They never have done that.
	And my day-to-day walking out and about, people come to me and they are very respectful.
	They say, oh, you look nice.
	You're so beautiful.
	They don't be rude.
	This is an online fantasy that people do.
	They feel more confident.
	They're behind, you know, whatever, and they want to be disrespectful or they want a viral moment to make you look like, you know, whatever, like this person who keeps doing the fat bastard thing because, you know, it's to make us look to humiliate us.
	But, you know, we're not, I'm not going to be negative because it's also giving you coins.
	So at the same time, I'm not going to be negative, but it is to be disrespectful towards us being plus size, which is not cool.
	At first, it was funny.
	Is that what's happening?
	Come on, y'all.
	I know y'all not.
	Are y'all serious?
	I don't know about her.
	I don't know about her, but the username, yeah, it's Bat Bastard.
	Come on, it's from Austin Powers.
	Right.
	He actually sends that on, like, yeah, yeah, but he's doing it when a plus size people are talking.
	He's not doing it when skinny people are talking.
	He's he might have sent it once when Andrew was talking.
	I don't know.
	Okay, guys.
	All right.
	All right.
	Let's go.
	We're going to move on.
	Let's go.
	On that point about people not like saying negative things to your face, too.
	I also feel like it's just with like our society and our culture of people just thinking things are or just like accepting everything as okay now.
	I actually agree with you on the like in like in person, people wouldn't say anything like that to your face, but then like online, people will talk massive shit.
	That's something I deal with.
	I'm sure anybody else here as a content creator has dealt with somebody saying some shit.
	They would never say it to you to your face.
	I think it's Mike Tyson has this quote: like something like the internet has made people way too comfortable talking shit or something like, oh, hey, Burmese, thank you for the 20 gifted subs on Twitch.
	Appreciate it.
	That's because guys used to talk shit to Mike Tyson when he's going into clubs and he'd knock him out right there in front of him.
	That's why.
	What is the actual Nick?
	Are you able to find what?
	What is the Mike Tyson comfortable disrespect?
	Social media made y'all way too comfortable comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it.
	So great quote from Mike Tyson.
	Okay, we're going to react.
	I just didn't have the voice, though.
	Like, you have to make fun of the voice.
	Yeah, I probably wouldn't do it there.
	So let's react to the Sean Evans thing.
	So if you're able to pull it up, Nick, if you could put us on the other side.
	So Sean Evans was allegedly dating, reportedly dating, poor P-star Melissa Stratton.
	And if you can scroll, is there anything else?
	They're just hugging, whatever.
	Scroll back up.
	So this was actually, what's the date on this?
	Scroll down.
	Just show us the date.
	February 13th.
	Okay, right before Valentine's Day.
	Next post.
	Adam22, I believe this on Valentine's Day says, Congrats, Sean, her pussy is fire.
	That's funny.
	And then skip over to, we're not going to look at that was the only month.
	And then the day after Valentine's Day, it's reported by TMZ Hot Ones host Sean Evans breaks up with porn star Melissa Stratton.
	So there's two things here.
	One, actually, I don't really care about the whole Valentine's Day angle.
	He broke up with her on Valentine's Day.
	Who cares?
	More interestingly is the conversation of, well, he was dating her.
	I assume.
	Let's just assume he almost certainly knew going into dating her that she was in porn.
	But when he got, look, who knows why they broke up?
	He got a little heat for it online, though.
	Within 24 hours, 48 hours, they've been broken up after getting heat.
	And Adam 22 congratulating him on his girlfriend's pussy.
	Do you think it's wrong for Sean Evans?
	Now, if background for viewers who don't know him, Sean Evans, host of Hot Ones, millions of subscribers on YouTube, incredibly successful.
	They interview big name, like A-list celebrities on there.
	A very successful show.
	I'm sure he's a millionaire many times over, clouded up, whatever.
	Do you think it was wrong of him to have broken up with her because she's a porn star?
	Yes, absolutely.
	And why?
	You knew what it was when you signed up.
	I feel like he kind of had a moment where he thought this was going to be his big one.
	Like, oh, I'm dating a porn star now.
	And I'm already, you know, I have a lot of clout.
	I have a lot of subscribers and fans.
	This is going to be big for me.
	And instead, it backfired in his eyes because he was getting more heat and more, you know, negative commentary than positive.
	So I feel like once he got all of that heat, he was just like, I kind of messed up here.
	Okay.
	So if you were on Twitter and you saw that and you saw Adam 22 says, congrats, bro, her pussy's fire.
	You would laugh, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I'm like, let's stop laughing.
	It's just like damn.
	Like, okay.
	Like, what can I say?
	I don't know.
	I feel like he was lame for breaking up with her for that.
	Okay.
	Madison, your thoughts?
	Again, I feel like you knew what you're getting into, but I honestly think it was bound to happen better sooner than later.
	Me, I feel like he was wrong.
	She should have gone with a cuck because Adam would have said when Adam would have said, you know, her pussy was fire, they would have just been like, he would have been like, thank you, you know what I mean?
	And just kept it pushing and been happy.
	And also another thing, a lot of this stuff be just for clickbait.
	So who knows if that wasn't set up or fake or something?
	And they did it so they can get this viral moment.
	Like everything is for clout nowadays.
	So, you know, he got a big story out of that.
	Even if whatever it was, Sean or Adam 22.
	Both.
	But Sean and the girl, because I was on her page and she was like, you know, you shouldn't date a porn star if it, you know, blah, blah, blah.
	But you know this as well.
	Like, you're a porn star, so you already know what type of backlash we get.
	You know, why come forward?
	You come forward because you know this is going to give you some type of attention, bad or good.
	You know, they know that if you get attention, good or bad, you're still going to get whatever it is you want.
	Followers, whatever it is that you're trying to get, it's going to come with it.
	So I feel like he was wrong, but at the same time, I don't know if it was real.
	So you're not going to set it up, though.
	It would not have been good for that guy to set that up like that, right?
	No.
	Like, that would not have been good for his reputation.
	Bob's publicity is good.
	Any publicity is any publicity.
	Any publicity?
	I don't know.
	I still don't know if that was serious.
	I didn't even know.
	I wasn't serious to him because he wasn't, or I saw in one of Adam's clips, he was not posting about it at all, but she was posting on her story that she was with him and everything.
	And he just, no response.
	Wait, Adam?
	No response or Sean?
	He posted.
	He was thinking about the relationship and she was posting so much about it.
	Obviously, he knows their situation.
	The thing with some of these asymmetrical relationships where one person's way more famous than the other, it only serves the person who has less engagement, less followers.
	They have only to gain by engaging in any sort of drama farming with a potential ex or even current ex.
	Whereas the person has only to lose by engaging with, like, if you're Sean Evans, who's got, what, over 10 million subscribers on YouTube?
	Yeah.
	Can you get a number check?
	Like, it's just not.
	It's not good.
	He's on my left.
	And he's not just like a normal content creator.
	Like, he's moving the circles he's moving in.
	It's not just like other content creators.
	He's bringing on A-list celebrities to his show.
	He's brought on, I mean, like musicians, actors.
	What's up?
	No, we don't need to pull up the YouTube, but 13.2 million subscribers.
	That's why I think he didn't even care about the drama and the flack that he was going to get.
	Like, I don't think it was that serious to him.
	He wasn't posting publicly about their relationship at all.
	So how did they say reportedly?
	How did it?
	Oh, it said reportedly.
	So it wasn't no, it wasn't a real relationship.
	I'm asking because honestly, if this is the case, he has 10 million followers, this, right?
	Why didn't he have her sign an NDA?
	I've signed plenty of them, okay?
	I can't tell the people.
	Can you scoot your mic that way just like this way?
	Perfect, perfect.
	So, you know, I signed plenty of NDAs, and I can't go out and say, oh, I slept with this person.
	I could say, oh, I've dealt with NFL players.
	I dealt with, you know, NBA players or whatever.
	But if he was feeling that kind of way, he didn't want her to go, why didn't you make her sign an NDA?
	Is that you have all these followers?
	You know your reputation.
	I don't know.
	Is he, I mean, he's big, but I feel like is Sean Evans NDA big?
	I don't.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I think it's a good idea.
	Am I NDA big?
	Yeah, you should be.
	I'm NDA big.
	Go on.
	Take it.
	Take it.
	I don't know if you can.
	Have them sign something.
	You will not speak of shit.
	Okay.
	I got some loose ends I gotta say.
	Shit.
	It's too late.
	Yeah, it's too late now.
	From this point on.
	Post-relationship NDA.
	Okay.
	I think a plumbing company at this point's NDA.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Wait, so okay.
	Where were we?
	I think, did you give your take?
	No.
	We'll go around the table, guys.
	I want to be offended because I like being offended by things.
	And I think it's more interesting.
	And obviously doing the job that I do is upsetting when you meet someone you really like and they don't want to be with you because your job ends up that you might have to sleep with somebody for a shoot or you might have to do something or people online see you naked.
	And that doesn't change the way you feel about that person.
	You still fancy the parents of them.
	You still like could fall in love with them.
	And them not liking you back because of your job sucks so hard.
	And I have been in that position where a guy was like to me, I think you're wonderful.
	I think you're amazing, but your job makes me think you're a whore.
	And I don't want to be with someone like that.
	And it was heartbreaking.
	But I have to respect...
	Unfortunately, you do have to respect the other person.
	Yeah, I know.
	They have a complete right to say, I actually don't like the fact that other people go inside you, even if it's not out of love.
	Right.
	And the thing is, Adam 22's literally slept with the whole industry.
	Jesus Christ.
	Well, if you've slept with Adam 22, you're probably still making good money.
	So Adam 22.
	By the way, if you wanna.
	But like, it does suck.
	And even, I don't know, like, the relationship between Adam 22 and the lady, the porn star, sorry, the pea star involved.
	And it could have just been a shoot.
	But when you hear about it, and then it's different being like, okay, I'm dating a pea star.
	To then people talking about how they've been with your woman.
	And like, you don't know what you're getting into until you get into it.
	So I kind of, it sucks.
	And I wish I could be like, fuck you, you're a dickhead.
	He's not a dickhead.
	He just got into something you didn't know it was going to end like.
	Like, you don't know how you're going to feel about it until it happens.
	That's true.
	But when you're like going into industry, either for work or if you're even getting into a relationship with someone in there, you know that there's going to be some sort of lack.
	Like you kind of have to expect that.
	You have to expect it, but you don't know actually how it's going to make you feel until somebody says it.
	Does that make sense?
	Yeah, yeah.
	It coming out on Twitter virally, like Adam 22 is massive.
	Him replying to your relationship status being like, oh yeah, we've banged like a thing.
	It's bloody amazing.
	I want to do it again.
	I'm going to read that as the partner and probably be like, oh, I'm actually butt hurt and you don't realize that you're going to feel that way.
	And people are entitled, as I said, to change their opinions and their ambush.
	We obviously don't even know if that was the reason they broke up, but like it's probably.
	But if it was, which I can see it definitely being that because the amount of people do have problems with female creators because they're like being used, making money from something that a man wants to own, as I literally know from personal, like people want to own one of my vaginas, for God's sake.
	Like, I get it.
	So like somebody else using that, I can understand why a man would be.
	But they shouldn't be.
	I wish they weren't, but you can't tell somebody to feel some kind of way.
	You have to respect them.
	So yeah.
	That's my take.
	I think it was more of an online image thing when you're someone with that much, that big of an audience to be publicly called a cuck that goes viral on Twitter, regardless of, and this may be shady.
	I don't even know if you're a cuck.
	I don't think that was.
	I mean, that's what the implication is.
	Do you think I fucked your bitch?
	But a cuck is somebody who watches in the room.
	Like, you have to be in the room and watching them.
	Because there's also someone who's okay with your...
	You know what I'm saying?
	You have to know what it is.
	No man wants to be dragged online for another man publicly stating he's been with their woman or any, it's just bad for brand.
	And I don't know whether or not he intended for the relationship to be long term.
	But I think regardless, at that point, it was, okay, this is bad for my brand, bad for my image.
	I need to cut this off and move forward.
	Yeah.
	So I have to agree with you on that.
	I really think it was because of his image.
	He's a known guy.
	And then as soon as he started people posting on Twitter about it, about the relationship, whether he did it publicly, whether he did it privately, people are going to find out.
	And then if.
	I think the guy just got fucking drunk, and when he sobered up, he's like, oh, shit.
	Maybe it could have been a team.
	You're like, oh, shit.
	But in my opinion, I really think it was just because as soon as everything started posting on Twitter and maybe backlash compliments, whatever, they were like, he was like, oh, I got to protect my image.
	And besides, it was only, what, two days?
	But there was a photo of them together, right?
	Yeah.
	Out publicly.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	So that's what I'm saying.
	I feel like he looked like he could have been drunk in that photo.
	But yeah, you can see pictures of the picture with a porn star.
	It could have just been a fling as well, but it doesn't look like a fling.
	They look like they're together.
	Like, just based off of the photo, is what I'm saying.
	They look like they're together.
	And it could have been.
	I don't really know the situation at all.
	I just think ultimately it would have done more harm for his brand, for his business, for everything to stay in that relationship after that situation happened.
	And I think he valued that over continuing it.
	Yeah.
	And also, like, it was two days.
	It's not like they were together for two years.
	That's why I said I ultimately think that is the reason why he ended the relationship.
	I don't see anybody.
	I don't get mad about this because he ended it early.
	I mean, it was two days.
	And also, it was because of his image.
	Because, I mean, he's a well-known dude.
	Right.
	Now, if they were together for five years and then the heavy rain of disapprovement on Twitter hit, and he's like, man, five years, but I don't know.
	All right.
	I've got to interrupt this conversation really quick.
	Me and our British friend over here, I went to go behind the scenes.
	Then she reminded me she had to show me her.
	And for science, I did confirm.
	She showed me a photo.
	I can confirm she does, in fact, have two V's.
	We know.
	Good talk.
	Okay.
	Back to Sean Evans.
	You went, correct?
	You gave your take.
	Did you give a take, Alexis?
	Not yet.
	I mean, he's a.
	We've all seen his content.
	He's a pretty monotone dude on camera who tastes hot sauce for a living, like versus other people.
	He can't be publicly a pansy.
	Like, it's kind of that thing where, you know, I think that if I don't know the other guy, Adam, is it Adam?
	Yeah.
	I don't think if Adam didn't comment on it, you know, maybe he meant for this relationship to be public, maybe he didn't.
	But for Adam to comment on it, I think the day after I get posted, you see that's the first tweet that goes viral about your new relationship, whether it was just a photo with someone in the club or not.
	I don't know.
	I think this could have been one huge accident because it said reportedly it looked like a club photo.
	Like this did not look like a committed relationship, in my opinion.
	But let's just say hypothetically it was.
	Some guy gets back on Twitter that night that he's been with the girl that you just announced you're dating.
	You know, guys have a, I don't care who you are, whether you have a platform or not, like guys have a biological proclivity to want to, you know, have, if they're going to date someone, that's kind of like the exclusivity of it.
	And if, you know, you can say he knew what he was getting into with who he was dating.
	I don't know, but I think when you're faced with it, kind of what you guys were saying, it's different.
	And ultimately, he made that decision after one day, which I think is much kinder than letting it go on.
	If he wasn't down, then he wasn't down, and that wasn't what he was looking for.
	And that's kind of it.
	It's beautiful.
	Andrew, any takes?
	I have a take on this.
	It's just fucking hilarious.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, I mean, my take on this is that, Sean Evans, you are famous.
	You're rich.
	You don't need to be dating a porn star.
	That's my take.
	That's it.
	But what's wrong with dating a porn star?
	Oh, well, there's plenty.
	Oh, please do tell.
	I'd love to know.
	Oh, Lordy, Lordy, I'm not sure.
	I'd love to know what I'm saying.
	Unless you want to.
	We can talk about this.
	Obviously, if you do, you can relate to that question.
	I can revoke it.
	I'd love to know.
	I'm not actually, and my angle on this, I'm not making an actual argument against porn.
	I am making an argument against men dating women who are involved in sex work.
	And there's a couple arguments.
	First off, if your woman is her work, now I realize some women are involved in sex work and aren't having sex with other men.
	Yeah.
	Basic standard for men.
	Don't date women who are fucking other men.
	I don't know if that's an extreme take.
	I think that's a pretty reasonable take for a man to have to not be romantically or sexually involved with a woman who's fucking another man.
	But what if there's no love in it?
	I don't care.
	I don't care if there's love.
	I don't care how much money she's getting paid.
	Think about what you're saying.
	Okay.
	So you're saying that a guy's wife goes to an office party and like bones the co-worker and then goes, but there was no love involved.
	Yeah, but there was no other thing.
	And that's just like there's just fine.
	I don't think there's anybody was either and there was no work involved.
	They were at the work party, but it wasn't really like they were working.
	Yeah, but it's the same thing emotionally.
	You're saying that the only thing, I don't even know why it works.
	I'm sorry.
	Please let me rephrase my previous statement.
	If they are doing it with no emotional attachment and there are cameras and it's work.
	Yeah, why is work the distinction?
	Because at the end of the day, if there wasn't work, you would be cheating, yes.
	Why?
	Why?
	Because you're engaging in sexual intercourse with the people.
	Same thing you're doing.
	Why is there a difference if you're doing it with somebody filming it or not?
	It's a difference.
	Because it's a difficult.
	The difference is one is you doing your job and one is you just having sex with somebody.
	So your job is to cheat?
	No, your job is to have sex on camera.
	Well, and if you're with somebody as a partner, why wouldn't they view that as cheating?
	They're just too much, man.
	You're terrifying.
	I'm not a profession.
	If that's the description of my profession, then how is that cheating?
	That is a part of your job.
	That's literally what I'm saying.
	What if the description of your profession?
	What if the description of your profession was like, I don't know, to murder people?
	Hang on, hang on.
	Stop, stop.
	Let me finish.
	We have to make an analogies, and we don't have to make an analogy.
	We do.
	Well, we do.
	No, we don't.
	Oh, okay.
	No, we really don't.
	Okay, so we just take your word for it?
	No, it's not taking my word for it.
	Well, then let me make an argument.
	You can't make analogies.
	Well, okay, hold on.
	Let them make his point.
	Let me make an argument, and then you can respond to the argument.
	I actually disagree with you on this.
	I'll say why also.
	If your job was to do something which was considered immoral, let's say in this particular instance, I don't know, murdering somebody for a living or something like this.
	Does somebody else look at that and go, well, you're not murdering people because it's your job?
	Does that even make sense?
	Yeah.
	Well, how does that make sense?
	Andrew, if I, if that, that makes, hold on, let me, let me actually.
	You call it murder.
	I call it morning.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Hold on, stop, stop, stop, stop.
	I'm going to let you go.
	Stop literally a hitman.
	So, Andrew, you're making the argument that it's cheating.
	Yeah.
	I don't think it's good for your girlfriend to be sleeping with other men, but if you willingly date a woman who does porn and she's disclosed to you and you know and you have knowledge of that she's going to be sleeping with other men,
	as much as I find that disgusting and repulsive, I don't think it fits the exact definition of cheating because there's for me cheating there has to be some degree of like you are unprivy to like if you're you're basically in an open relationship almost.
	I don't know if it's cheating.
	I think it's a terrible position for a man to be in, but I don't know if it strictly meets the definition of cheating.
	You can just cheat in an open relationship.
	Hold on.
	For example, if stop, stop, please.
	If you were in an open relationship with a woman, for example, and you both had a discussion about it and she could sleep with other men and you could sleep with other women and she slept with another man, would that be cheating?
	What would make that a relationship?
	Well, it'd be an open relationship.
	Yeah, well, what is an open relationship?
	It's just an immoral set of relationships.
	Well, I think that's a different conversation.
	Well, that's my whole opinion.
	But that's my point.
	But that's your opinion.
	That's not the definition.
	My point is to look at this.
	So this is what I'm looking at, right?
	Is the definition.
	So we're looking at the definition distinction.
	So I'm saying, I'm making a moral argument.
	What he's making, what he's making is a different argument.
	He's talking about definition.
	That's not what we're talking about.
	But it is what we're talking about.
	So if you're asking, if you're cheating, right?
	Is that bad?
	Yes.
	Well, then it's a moral argument.
	So what you're saying is this isn't cheating, so it's not immoral.
	So it's a moral argument.
	Okay.
	I just don't think any man who's confident and has self-respect would want to put himself in a relationship where other men are getting sexual gratification from his girlfriend, his wife, whatever it is.
	Do you know on set?
	It's so hard for a man to come.
	They are not just like whipping it out and having the best time.
	I don't even.
	I don't even know what that's such a nonsense.
	How is that at all related to what she's saying?
	I'm not even referring to the men on set.
	When you make corn on the internet, when you do OF or whatever, other men are getting sexual gratification and jacking off to that content, regardless of if the guy you slept with in the video got hard or enjoyed it or not.
	And I don't know how any man with self-respect would be with that woman who has multiple men jacking off to their content.
	Do you know men jack off to regular pictures on Instagram?
	Yes, but they're not created without deliberately creating content with the intent of sexually gratifying other men.
	So it really doesn't matter how you're purchasing it.
	It does self-instruction.
	Okay, no, it doesn't.
	We can't govern other people's thoughts.
	And then you're going to have to do it.
	Well, you cut me off, but I will let you.
	No, you actually.
	I will let you finish your point.
	I'll pause.
	I was responding to your statement.
	No, you're actually speaking over me, but you can continue.
	Are you going to say the point?
	I am if you allow me to.
	Thank you.
	So, like I was saying, you do know that men do jack off to regular pictures, right?
	I think you're offended that.
	I'm not offended on that.
	Your Instagram, do you know that that's what they do?
	I am aware that men jack off to animals, okay?
	Whoa, here you go.
	But they answer.
	Right?
	Just ask me a question.
	Why do you got to bring animals into this?
	Leave the animals out of this conversation.
	Okay, but I think you're personally taking offense because your Instagram may be very promiscuous to the point where you're creating content for men to consume in a sexual way.
	I mean, if that's what they choose to do anyway.
	But they could, I agree with that.
	Her only point is that they're still going to do it on regular people Instagram as well.
	There's really no one part that she was saying.
	I was just trying to get away from that.
	There's a complete difference.
	There's a complete difference between having an OF where you have sex with multiple men, mastery, whatever, versus having an Instagram account where you post pictures of yourselves picking flowers outside.
	There's a completely different thing.
	I understand what you're saying about the intent, but that doesn't have anything to do with what somebody chooses to do regardless.
	Yeah, but she's not saying it does.
	I don't care.
	She's giving what I was telling you.
	But why does that matter?
	Because we're saying doesn't.
	That's what I'm saying.
	You cannot control.
	You cannot control what other people do with your content.
	You can control the type of content you create.
	Absolutely.
	I'm not disagreeing with that at all.
	I think, depending on the type of content you create online, should 100% be a factor if a man has self-respect if he wants to be with you in a romantic relationship.
	Okay.
	That's your opinion.
	And I'm not sure if you're not.
	I don't even know why self-respect has to be involved.
	Like, can't we just be a little bit less attacking?
	I'm like, look like a cart.
	I thought you liked being offended, though.
	Personally.
	No, but I'm just.
	Yeah, well, see, I'm being offended, so I'm replying to you.
	So, yes, I do like being offended, but I think sometimes self-respect's a bit of a juggler.
	There's going to be people, I don't know if people watch this who are men who have girls, friends, well, words, English, doing well.
	People that watch this, but okay, people that watch the show who have girlfriends who do.
	Yes.
	Well, if you are watching this and you're a man and you're dating a woman who does OnlyFans or porn, and she has videos of herself online having sex with men, my personal advice would be to break up with her post-haste Mercy Boucau.
	But why?
	In my personal opinion.
	It's just like, I think my boyfriends have respect.
	Let me know.
	Could mine your two boyfriends, one gets one hole, the other gets the other.
	Who don't know about each other?
	Yeah, they have respect.
	They don't have to be self.
	They don't have.
	They don't have.
	Hold on, I gotta send them astery.
	But you started the podcast saying after they see this, they'll both probably dump me.
	Yeah, Bobs.
	Because you know, they have enough self-respect to not want to be with someone who does what you're doing.
	Yeah, one of them took the whole show.
	I don't think they're going to agree with me.
	Sorry.
	No, mine was more.
	I think they probably aren't going to agree with me where I think sharing having two men.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	I think that's because I just hope that they might just like my job because they know about my job already.
	I think it's also a sorry.
	I think it's also a value, maybe a difference in value on relationships as well.
	Like if I was, if someone was dating two guys and announced it on a podcast with a ton of subscribers and knew that their boyfriends might see it and they didn't really care, which I don't, it doesn't seem like you do.
	I don't want to make that generalization, but if you're doing this, you don't care, then I don't think that the value in relationships is there to make that call.
	Yeah, how much can you give a shit about these guys if that's you know what I mean?
	That's what she's saying.
	How much could you possibly actually care about these guys if you're like, well, one has sex with my right hole, the other one with the left.
	They didn't even know about each other.
	Let me just let everybody and the whole world know that right now on this podcast.
	Well, well, more people know about it.
	I've got a fucking massive mouth.
	I just took a- Sorry, I keep swearing.
	I do apologize.
	You're so vulgar.
	So why don't you just tell both of you?
	I'm so sorry.
	Hold on.
	That's fucking disgusting.
	I am so sorry.
	Back to the topic of cheating.
	I think certain acts are obviously cheating.
	If you do them with emotion or without emotion, it's still cheating.
	I agree.
	You can be emotionless and like cheat on your significantly.
	Here's some more reasons why I don't think that men should date women who do porn and OnlyFans.
	Listen, you guys are wonderful women.
	You know, I got the opportunity to meet you and talk to you.
	Not you, Malik.
	No, I was just going to say, can you include the pack when you say men?
	Men with self-respect.
	No, we're just going to say men.
	Even if that's your opinion.
	You know what?
	Even men who don't have self-respect, I encourage you from just a practical and pragmatic position to not date women who do sex work because one, you're opening yourself up to a greater likelihood of getting an STD.
	Yes.
	Yes, it's true.
	That's not.
	That's literally a very false statement.
	We have to get it every 14 days.
	Congratulations.
	So question, between those 14 days, do you wait until you get your STD test to have sexual intercourse with your partner?
	Probably not.
	Well, we have to bring sets to the can you kindly speak into the mic.
	Sorry.
	We both bring sets to the past.
	You can scoot into the table, so it's a little easier.
	So we both have to bring sets.
	So I'd have to bring sets and the person on set would also have to bring together.
	On set, what about your boyfriend?
	Okay, cool.
	So then.
	So what happens if the test gets a negative, a false negative?
	Or what if the test, I don't know how it is in the UK, but in the U.S., they aren't testing, at least if you're like shooting in the Los Angeles, what is it, San Fernando Valley?
	My understanding of the adult entertainment industry in the United States, you don't have to check for HPV and you don't have to check for herpes.
	That's your understanding of the adult industry?
	It's not just my understanding.
	It's a fact.
	What they do because everybody is not underneath a mainstream porn.
	Some of us do our own private.
	So when somebody comes to me, yeah, you have to have updated paperwork, just like I'm bringing you seven weeks.
	I went down to such and such and got my paperwork.
	How often?
	How often do you have to do that?
	I mean, I have only two content partners.
	One was previously, and then I have one now.
	So whenever I switch to a new content partner, which is the guy, you know, I was having sex with, you know, doing him.
	And then the other one that I was doing, you know, my, I don't know.
	Can I see that word?
	That word, bitch?
	Yeah, you can see.
	When I have my bitch boy or whatever, when we do it, the guy, the other guy is him.
	So I have the clean paperwork.
	So it's not the same with everybody else, which, you know, your understanding is, but with mine, I want to see that.
	I want to see you don't have herpes and you don't have HIV.
	I'll be saying that.
	You have to request for those.
	Yeah, you have to request that.
	Okay, so how many scenes have you done?
	Like you do traditional porn, correct?
	No?
	Not yet.
	Or you're doing like OF shit?
	I do OF, but I'm getting into mainstream, yeah.
	Okay, so.
	Can I jump in here?
	Who?
	Sorry?
	Can I jump in here?
	Okay, good.
	So I personally know someone who, one of their close friends, they make OF content, and they were doing scenes with other people, and they contracted HIV.
	And this is just about a week or two ago.
	Because OF is not a professional industry.
	It's not held to professional standards.
	And a lot of these people are doing collaborations.
	They're doing scenes together.
	And they're not.
	But even if it wasn't a lot of fun, it's really simple.
	The more sex partners you have, the more prone you're going to be to have an STD.
	It's that simple.
	It's not any more complex than that.
	mean it is the truth nobody's uh i'm not trying to refute that it's easy The more people you have sex with, it's easier to get.
	But that's not the same thing for a lot of people who are out here on a day-to-day basis and don't even get checked because they think that their partner's done.
	But the exception proves the rule in this case.
	No, no, no, the exception proves the rule.
	So it's like, yeah, there's times where women who have sex with mini partners may never get any type of STD.
	But you agree with me that the more sex partners you have, the more likely it's going to be, right?
	Yeah, it's too much.
	So that's going to be.
	I mean, but that's what I'm telling you.
	That's right.
	The same thing with like if you're a construction worker, chances that you get a constructed-related injury are going to be way higher just because the field that you're in.
	So that's what he's saying.
	It's like your chances of getting an STD are a lot higher if your woman is having sex with lots of men.
	I mean, I agree with you.
	It's like wearing a hard hat, though.
	So like if you wear a hard hat, you're less likely to hurt yourself.
	That's why we turn up with sex.
	But you're still all.
	So we're protecting ourselves.
	Yeah, sure.
	You can mitigate risk, but it's still more risky.
	That's the point.
	I mean, it's the truth.
	And you can also protect yourself and only have one or two content partners, but you also don't know, honestly, like who else they're sleeping with.
	Unless they bring it in.
	Which is why I agree with the whole thing, I agree with the fact with like OF, it's like so much different.
	Like it is a lot less professional.
	I have a question for you that just occurred to me.
	Now I'm just curious.
	Yeah.
	If you had HPV, could you have it in one of your reproductive organs and not in the other one?
	No, I think you'd have to have it in both.
	But on that point, I get tested for that every time, by the way.
	In the UK, you have to.
	Both people tested.
	I have to swab both.
	Yeah.
	So could you, in theory?
	I don't think so because there's like it's like maybe, but I don't think so.
	Like, I wouldn't say that.
	Like, did you have whole specific STDs?
	I don't know.
	Like, when I first went for my SCD test, like when I was when I first found out, I was like, do I need two swabs?
	And the lady was like, no, just put it in one and take bow and put in the other.
	Did you lose your virginity twice?
	I did.
	I think so.
	I don't think that's how that would work.
	Well, I think I did because I did the whole, like, I felt like I broke my hymen twice.
	Just okay, so I mean, going back to my original point of just my advice to men, not dating sex workers or women who do porn, especially porn with other men, aside from just the STD risk, there's just also the reputational concerns.
	So your family may frown upon it.
	Your friends may frown upon it.
	There could be consequences for your children down the line.
	If you choose to have children, they could potentially or very well likely be bullied because I feel like I'm starting to talk like Andrew here.
	You're true.
	No, just the you know, the kids could get could get bullied.
	And also, it's just a good change, by the way.
	It's a good change.
	No, it's funny you said that because I've watched your previous shows and I that's the reason I came because I thought you didn't do this kind of stuff.
	But like I didn't think that it would be like so much.
	I thought it would be like more calm and cool and just us like having like a little conversation.
	I didn't think it was going to be us versus these people.
	And I didn't think these people.
	What do you mean these people are all very side of the table?
	Everybody going with that.
	It does happen to have, as you stated earlier, our side versus your side.
	I was referring geographically, but you're kind of like...
	No, I really didn't.
	I was just saying what I was saying.
	I can't believe it.
	But yeah, so what I'm saying is, when you said that about the Adam, you know, because I really.
	So whose side of the table do you think is smarter?
	Wait, let her hold.
	Smarter?
	What?
	Let me shut my mouth.
	Here, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	No, go ahead.
	It's 11?
	Oh, it's 150, I said.
	It's 11 minutes.
	11.
	It's just sitting on the table and ask what degree.
	Okay.
	Anyways, but yeah.
	We get secured on that.
	I just didn't know, but from the other videos, though, from the other videos, that's really why I sent you a message because I'm like, okay, he seems like a cool podcast to go on.
	Oh, wait, after I just said what I said, I'm not mad at you.
	No, I thought you were when I seen it, but now that I, now that I'm here and the conversation is kind of going like, oh, you know, OnlyFans Girls is this.
	Don't do this.
	Don't, you know, it just seems off from what.
	Off, what do you mean?
	Like, from what you used to do, you know, like on your podcast, which is kind of the bread and butter of your Instagram.
	Well, the clips that you have on your Instagram is not basically.
	It more so seem kind of upbeat.
	That's all I'm saying.
	It's a little different.
	It doesn't seem like it's that contentious.
	Well, this is all time.
	Yes, because you're not downplaying what we do.
	No, I'm not downplaying.
	But just act like I'm too smarter, and that's from her.
	I didn't say that.
	That was her.
	Disavow.
	I disavow.
	I disavow her statement.
	No, that was sarcasm.
	Sorry if you didn't pick up on that.
	So I'm too stupid, remember?
	I think you guys kiss my makeup, okay?
	The way your makeup looks.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	So.
	Okay.
	So, look, I really, I invite OnlyFans girls and porn stars or whatever on the show all the time.
	I really, I don't have a major issue with them as, you know, I don't have a major issue with you guys as people, as persons.
	I really actually don't even object that much totally to the work you do.
	I have perhaps some objections.
	But when it comes to dating, specifically dating, I think it's a very sub, whether it's me or other men, I think it's a very sub-optimal move to date a woman who does porn or who does only fans dating or relationships.
	Because dating is kind of like you go out.
	Even casual sex, I would say.
	You wouldn't say?
	Well, I have a very, maybe my standards are too high on this.
	Maybe.
	A woman, like, for example, the body count thing that came up earlier.
	Some guys say, some guys' standard is, well, if a girl has a high body count, I'll still have sex with her, but I'll never take her seriously in a long-term relationship.
	My standard is, and this is my recommendation for men who are watching, if she has a high body count, she doesn't get anything.
	She doesn't get casual sex, even.
	You might think, well, she's the ideal woman to have casual sex with.
	Well, one, I'm not in favor of men having one-time casual sex with a woman.
	But to me, even if I was inclined to have a one-night stand or have casual sex, I'd much prefer, I would still prefer her body count to be low.
	I'd prefer her to be a virgin even for a one-night stand.
	Because this is really a societal norm.
	You know, guys want somebody who's fresh out, you know, who doesn't have penis.
	I get that.
	But at the same time, it's other guys in this world.
	It's 8 billion people on this earth.
	Sure.
	And a lot of them, well, I'm not going to say a lot, but a little percent of men who love to be cucks, who love to be stags, who love to be, y'all don't understand it, but their brain is wired differently than yours.
	I agree with you.
	I know you guys are.
	See, like, you guys don't think, okay, you know, a lot of people have been through stuff.
	So our brains.
	Wait, did you say mental stuff?
	Yes.
	I'm not bringing up nothing like that.
	But when your brain, you know, it wires much.
	She's right.
	They do got mental stuff.
	When your brain, when you go through certain traumas in your life, your brain wires differently.
	I'm not bringing it up.
	I'm just saying.
	This is actually true.
	This is wired differently.
	This is so based.
	So you're saying cucks have mental issues?
	I'm saying so bad.
	What I'm saying is their co-host.
	She's the new whatever co-host.
	I'm assigning you to the whatever podcast.
	You're my co-host now.
	What I'm saying is, yes, their brain is different than yours because Why would the societal norm?
	When you go from that, why do we go from the societal norm?
	It's a reason why.
	You guys might not understand it.
	Oh, I don't.
	But when our brain is working in fight or flight mode, when you're in fight or flight mode, you adapt to what you can.
	You see what I'm saying?
	If I can jump in, and that's just for my perspective.
	Me.
	If I can jump in here really quick.
	So are you saying?
	Are you saying that cucks are a result of men being in their fight or flight mode?
	No, I'm not.
	I'm thinking only about myself.
	I have no idea.
	You're saying that due to various events, traumas, and environment, their brain rewires it.
	It wires itself and it makes you act a certain way.
	Which, me personally, I took it as an avenge.
	No, I don't want to go the same way everybody else wants.
	I don't want to go to therapy and live a life and be somebody's wife and do all this stuff.
	I'm already tainted in you guys' die.
	But if you were to say if you were to say what mental illness was, wouldn't you say that?
	Hang on.
	I'm almost done.
	Wouldn't you say that the easiest way for us to detect mental illness is deviation from standard norm?
	I mean, didn't they do that back in the day?
	Yeah.
	What did they used to do with anybody who was different from the normal?
	Well, I mean, I don't know that just being different from the norm is necessarily.
	You could look different if you came out as a smaller person.
	If you came out.
	I can count, James.
	Okay, you asked me.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Just let me finish the question.
	I'm just saying one of the easiest ways to identify mental illness is if there's a big deviation from the norm.
	I would not say that because I didn't do any studies.
	I'm not a doctor.
	I'm only an LPN.
	I'm not going to say.
	I mean, how would you recognize a person who was crazy?
	Is there an easy way to recognize a person who's crazy where you're like, I'm not going to do that?
	That fucker's crazy.
	I've been watching the FBI shows.
	They say they show certain pictures and they do it.
	They say a person who's just staring at you.
	No, I just mean from your perspective.
	When you're like, that fucker's crazy.
	What would the FBI say?
	They said that motherfucker's bad either.
	Oh, sorry.
	They say like his.
	No, you're good.
	Oh, they're saying like his eyes is big or he does this.
	He works with.
	I'm going to go with what they say.
	That's like profiling.
	I'm saying.
	You personally, if you were to go, you're like walking down the street and you go, that fucker's crazy.
	He would have to be doing some shit that was way outside the norm, right?
	Yeah.
	And that's how you would identify it.
	Right.
	So what Brian's saying is maybe it's mental illness because we can see that these are heavily deviated from the norm.
	I'm not sure.
	I'm just agreeing with her.
	I agree with her.
	She made a great deal.
	I just know that it's the truth for a lot of people.
	And I know for myself, alone for me, I don't can't say anybody else has been through things, but for myself, I know I'm the way I am.
	And I came to terms with it.
	That's why I just, you know, you're not going to make me think differently because you can't get me out of this state of mind.
	And look, a lot of women don't want to date me because of what I do.
	I get it.
	It's okay.
	It's all right.
	They don't want to date me because I've got a toxic podcast.
	And it's fine.
	It's fine.
	I'm okay with it.
	I just think, you know, like dating, it's, you know, like I said, dating someone who does porn.
	No offense, guys.
	It's kind of subpart.
	It's like a pretty weak build.
	I don't know if you guys know World of Warcraft.
	But like, I don't know, like, best in slot, it's going to be a girl who doesn't even have Instagram.
	Like, best in slot, though.
	Like, we'll accept an IG, but like, like, kind of a shy girl, to be honest.
	This is your dating profile you're doing?
	No, like, he's giving you the OP builds.
	Like, this is.
	This is his dating profile, guys.
	Right.
	Like, so if I'm like a mage, right?
	Like, I'm just AOE farming these nudes, like Blizzard, Flamestrike, Cone of Cold, Arcane Explosion.
	Like, some guys don't care.
	Yeah.
	Don't forget Fire Blast.
	Some guys don't care about min-maxing their dating life, and that's cool.
	They're happy with an OF girl and like having other dudes smash their bird.
	Like, you know, and bird, they're bird.
	Like, maybe they're just like, if you think about World of Warcraft Classic, right?
	They hit level 60, maybe they hit level 60, but they're just running five mans, right?
	Just dungeon loot.
	They're just, they don't want the 99 parses on Warcraft vlogs.
	They want to raid Molten Core, Blackwing Lair, Nax Ramus, AQ40.
	They don't care about that.
	They don't care about the world boss loot, but I do.
	Okay.
	But these guys, they're in like maybe, okay, fine.
	Maybe they're in like a dad guild and they're like wiping on Lucifron.
	They might wipe on Lucifron.
	Like they're some noobs, right?
	Like easiest boss in Molten Core.
	First boss in Molten Core, they're wiping on him.
	Like, that's not me.
	I want to be like speed running Molten Core, 30-minute clears, Molten Core.
	No wipes, like 99% parses, pink parses, legendary parses.
	Let's go.
	So virgin vagina for you.
	No, she doesn't have to be a virgin, but no, I mean, low body count.
	I just prefer that.
	Just has to be good loot.
	You did say that.
	You said you will perver a virgin.
	Yeah, like if I'm on my rogue, right?
	Like, I definitely want, what's the ring from Ragnaros?
	Like, I want Perdition's Blade from Rag.
	I want, what's the ring that Ragnaros drops?
	Ragnaros?
	Ragnaros?
	It's not the quick strike ring.
	That's from the other, the earlier bosses in Molten Core.
	Well, okay, in Blackwing Lair, I want the Drake Fang talisman.
	Like, that's Bis for through Nax Ramus.
	Like, you want fucking the Drake Fang talisman.
	And, like, for me, dating.
	I need another beer for this.
	Anyways.
	Could I weigh in?
	About the Molten Core loot?
	Sure.
	So, like, back to like, if I was dating, not dating, but like, if I was talking to a guy and he had an OnlyFans, it's not as often, it's not as common as women, but if he had one, would I get involved?
	No.
	No.
	There you go.
	No, I would not.
	It's just, and it's just my opinion.
	And I have to agree with what you said too.
	You know, everyone's attracted to different things.
	You know, everything plays out differently.
	There might be men that like women like that.
	There might be women that like men like that.
	But as me on a personal level, no.
	I mean, I even got rid of Snapchat because of how toxic it is.
	You know, I don't want to deal with that kind of stuff.
	Interesting.
	And I mean, look, aside from the actual tangible things that you can point out that are negative things that are related to dating somebody who's involved in sex work, you also have to question what were the precipitating factors for them getting into sex work.
	And you mentioned there could have been past trauma.
	There could be, you know, mental illness, debt, money.
	Well, sure.
	But.
	Not going to say it was the money for me, honestly.
	Okay, sure.
	Anyways, moving on to our next topic.
	Let me get some.
	Oh, yeah, let me just read this.
	David Kinzer, run away, Maddie.
	Wow, be nice, guys.
	Come on.
	They're going to eat you and not in a good way.
	I'm going to name it the boss.
	Wait, like, I mean, she looks good, but we have to be shy.
	Maddie did.
	Maddie did make.
	She was very nice.
	Maddie baked lemon-infused olive oil cake.
	Oh, there you go.
	All right.
	I'm going to get the truck.
	Okay, cool.
	Afterwards.
	You guys can have some later.
	Yeah, that was nice.
	We have S. Mill here.
	3X FNF subs.
	U-R-N-D at level Berkson.
	Okay.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Appreciate your patronage.
	Appreciate the support.
	You got my name wrong, though.
	It's not Berkson.
	It's Brickson.
	B-R-I-X-A-N.
	The X is wants.
	The X is silent.
	So I guess it's still Brian there.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
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	We're going to go around the table here.
	Actually, do I want to wait?
	Was there another video we were going to pull up?
	Actually, hold on, hold off on that.
	I'm going to get into some of our pre-show notes here.
	Oh, okay, we'll get into that.
	So we talked about the.
	Oh, sweet tooth.
	Hey, thank you for the gifted 20 memberships.
	Appreciate it, right?
	Let's see.
	Going to you, you said you were an OnlyFans model full-time for the last four years, but you also have a BA in philosophy and religion, and you wrote your philosophy dissertation on feminism.
	Yes.
	I wrote my philosophy dissertation on how Aristotle was a feminist, which is apparently physically impossible, but I wrote it and proved it to be true.
	Aristotle was a feminist?
	Yeah, so Aristotle was an ancient Greek philosopher who basically know that part, but sorry.
	But yeah, I argued that his with one line in his Republic, yes.
	No, that's Plato.
	Oh my god, it's been five years.
	But with one line in one of his books, that he believed that women were created with the ability for practical reason.
	So we were able to function in society, but society just hadn't given us the ability to like turn it on.
	So like with school, education, the way that we were involved in society, we weren't allowed to activate our practical reason.
	And practical reason is what men had, which allowed them to function, be politicians, have an education, lead societies and be leaders.
	And I argued that he basically was like, society just hasn't given us the chance to activate it yet, turn it on, become like part of society in a practical wisdom way.
	But slowly, because obviously the more we've got involved in the world and movements and like things like the fact that we can sit here and talk about OnlyFans on a podcast is wild and all things like that.
	So I just then argued that he was just waiting because his society said that women couldn't do it.
	That his philosophy actually allowed for us to be able to eventually.
	Okay.
	Wait, do you know Socrates?
	Yes.
	Did you write anything about Nick private chat?
	Did you know anything about Socrates?
	Did you do any writing on Socrates?
	Because, wait, Aristotle was... So, it... Was...
	Was it Socrates, Aristotle, Pluto?
	No, it went.
	Socrates, Plato, Aristotle.
	What was the order?
	I think it's Socrates, Plato, Aristotle.
	Yes.
	So Aristotle was the student of Socrates and Pluto.
	No, no.
	So Socrates was.
	Not Pluto, Plato.
	Plato, no, that's what I said.
	I said Plato.
	Sorry, English is my second language.
	Aristotle was the student of Plato, and Plato was a student of Socrates.
	I have a quote here, and I want all the women at the table.
	Yeah, I was like, please, I mean, I spent four years doing that.
	I want, since we're talking about, you know, these ancient philosophical, excuse me, tongue-tied here.
	Nick, can you pull it up?
	You gotta.
	Trust not a woman when she weeps, for it is her nature to weep when she wants her will.
	Socrates.
	What do you guys think about?
	Agree or disagree?
	I agree.
	Agree.
	Agree?
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	This is base pound.
	Can we return to the feminism thing for a second?
	Because feminism, do you.
	So, the definition of feminism in, like, is in idea is that men and women are equal, correct?
	Do you not agree that Aristotle was saying the exact opposite of that?
	Yes, but he's.
	Oh, yeah.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	No, I just didn't say, so how is he a feminist if he's saying the opposite of that and he's, you know, we can't posthumously decide for him.
	So that's the whole how philosophical arguments work.
	So you take like a bit of text which I took is that women have practical reason, but it is not like without authority.
	Okay.
	So then I had to like philosophically analyze the word authority and how like authority is society given.
	Yeah.
	So Aristotle was in a society where women weren't equal.
	No, I get it the hype that I know how philosophical arguments work.
	I totally understand.
	I was just asking making sure the definitions were the same.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Okay, so you're feminist.
	Yeah.
	I feel like it's quite a harsh term, but yes.
	Is it?
	I feel like when you say you're a feminist, people really think you're gonna, well, I'm stuck.
	Yeah.
	I'm feminist.
	Yeah.
	Which wave?
	Wait, let's give.
	I think we need a seat booster.
	You want to go seat booster, Madison?
	Keep going, keep going.
	Oh.
	I'm definitely not new wave.
	Why?
	Because.
	Wait, can you push your mic that way?
	That's fine.
	Did they just go a little too far for you?
	They did, actually.
	I feel like everything, like, well, it's like the same with anything, there's always a minute group that go too radical and make everything look like crazy.
	And that's why sometimes I actually don't like saying I'm a feminist because you get, as in the whole thing we've done today, is discuss about how like we put people in boxes and judge them.
	And like, I'm, I want women and men to be equal and like to live in society.
	Why?
	Because.
	Remember, this is a philosophical argument.
	Why?
	Well, because at the end of the day, like, everyone deserves to be equal, no matter who they are.
	That's not an argument.
	That's an opinion.
	That is my opinion.
	So why?
	Why?
	Because we're all human beings.
	That's an opinion again, not an argument.
	Are we not?
	Are we not human beings?
	But you're saying the reason why is because we're human beings.
	What does that have to do with anything?
	Because we're the same species and we should be treated as the same.
	Again, it's an assertion.
	Now you're saying should, ought.
	So because we're human beings.
	That's a philosophical argument.
	If it wasn't a philosophical argument, it would be a theory of science.
	That's an invalid argument.
	It's invalid.
	No, if it's factually true and completely true, it would be a science.
	It's not factually true when you throw in an ought.
	What makes it factually true?
	Well, because we're not equal, so it has to be ought.
	Because if we were equal, I could say men and women are equal and everything is great.
	Right, so why ought we be?
	Why ought we be?
	Because why on earth should you be better than us?
	What?
	That's a question, not an argument.
	I'm responding with a rhetorical.
	I'm responding with a question.
	Yeah, but I'm looking for the original argument before you give me the question for why we should be equal.
	Because we should be.
	Oh, well, that's quite the argument.
	Why is the sun there?
	Because it is.
	That's a fact.
	It's a theory.
	But why shouldn't we be equal?
	Well, that's a question.
	Why should there be a philosophical argument in to make us equal?
	Okay, so should.
	That's ought, right?
	Ought we be equal?
	I don't.
	I hate can't.
	That's not can't?
	That is can't.
	Should or not.
	No.
	Yeah.
	No.
	It's just an ought claim.
	Nothing to do with can't.
	It is.
	He made it.
	He made what?
	The ought claim.
	Kant made up oughts?
	No, but he didn't make up oughts.
	Okay, then why ought we be equal?
	It has nothing to do with Kantian ethics.
	It has a bit to do with Kantian ethics.
	What?
	Yes.
	What?
	But I don't.
	I can't, like, for me to come up with this philosophical argument about why we should be equal right now.
	I'd bloody need to read about it.
	Do you think that men and women...
	Wait, wait, hang on.
	This is a core belief you have.
	We should be equal.
	Why ought we be equal?
	Because we're human.
	I don't really understand.
	You can laugh at me all you want.
	So, should I be a construction worker if I put on a construction worker outfit?
	So, but your analogy is so.
	I'm sorry.
	You can't answer a basic ought.
	Like, what do you mean by that?
	You couldn't respond to mine.
	Why shouldn't we be equal?
	So no, it's the same thing.
	What would you respond?
	Asking me the question of why shouldn't X happen?
	That's fine.
	But before we do, can you respond to the actual odd question that you made?
	Which is: men and women should be equal.
	Okay, great.
	Why?
	Why?
	I don't fucking.
	Sorry.
	I don't know.
	I wish I knew.
	I wish I knew why we weren't equal and why people didn't treat us as equal.
	For men, low BC.
	I think 100.
	For women, finding men with low BC is an indicator of low chance of taking advantage of women.
	Both perspectives are respectable and valid.
	For women, finding men with a low body count is an indicator of low chance of taking advantage of women.
	Both perspectives are respectable and valid.
	Oh, Matt G, thank you, man.
	Appreciate your comment there.
	Well, I don't know if we linger too long on that.
	Perhaps we come back to it a little later.
	No, I don't think men have an answer for that because at the end of the day, I just think I'm sorry that I don't have a reason why I think women should be treated the same as men.
	One question on that, but then I'm going to move it on.
	That doesn't seem insane to you that you don't have a single reason you can give for why you think men and women should be equal.
	Not one?
	I don't know why it isn't insane that I just think.
	Can you tilt your mic down?
	Sorry.
	Ah, Jesus.
	I don't.
	That's a bit too far.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm doing so well.
	Okay.
	I don't know why it's insane for me to just think that just because our genders are different, that we're not treated the same.
	No, but he's asking why.
	Yeah.
	Well, I wish I knew why we weren't treated the same.
	I wish I knew why the problem is.
	Are we not?
	We are not.
	I wish we were.
	Great question.
	Do you think so?
	Don't you wish women got drafted?
	I was about to make the difference.
	Do I wish women got drafted?
	Yeah, I treat them the same, right?
	Well, if a woman is, I feel like if a woman wants to go into the army, she should be drafted.
	No, that's not what I ask.
	That's different.
	It's about a draft.
	Forced military conscription.
	Well, yeah, I guess if I'm going to make everybody equal, she's got to go.
	I've got to go.
	But currently, off we go.
	To war.
	We're not allowed to go because we're too feminine and we'll delay men.
	That's an argument.
	But I thought you wanted us to be equal.
	That's a good reason why we shouldn't be equal because we're different.
	Yeah, but can you name why men and women are different then?
	Or why they should be different?
	Why should they be different?
	Yeah, you can't think of any reasons why they're the same, so why should they be different?
	Why should they?
	I don't think they should be different either.
	I just think everybody should be treated equally and I think anybody who wants to do whatever the bloody hell is.
	Should we treat criminals equal to non-criminals?
	Obviously, no.
	Well, I guess you don't want people to all be treated equally.
	I just want everybody to be.
	So, okay.
	Should prisoners have guns?
	I want.
	All right.
	People who live a moral life.
	People who live a moral life, there we go then, should be treated equally.
	That's moral.
	Do whatever the buddy how you want it to be.
	Whatever you want.
	Don't so don't.
	Question, in the name of equality, don't feme, isn't it?
	I need to look this statistic up to get the number right, but don't female content creators make more money than male content creators.
	Yes.
	On OnlyFans.
	Yes, we do.
	Yeah.
	Problems.
	So why?
	So that's an inequality.
	No, there's just more women on there.
	A man can do it.
	I don't mean into a person.
	Yeah, I mean per person.
	Because the clientele that go on to OnlyFans are after something.
	So you're advocating for inequity there?
	No, no, not at all.
	Some men just don't want to have to do what they have to do to make money on OnlyFans, unfortunately.
	Because it's a male clientele, mostly on OnlyFans.
	A lot of women don't purchase.
	And if I purchase, because I support what I do.
	But if you're not going to do that, I can't force everyone to join OnlyFans and start subbing to men.
	Great.
	Then you just made the argument for why being equitable and being equal is not possible.
	Why do we just have to be paid less?
	No, that's not what I'm saying.
	What I'm saying is that because of these distinctions.
	But we still are 22%.
	Here, here's your philosophical.
	That's not a true disparity.
	The wage gap is not an actual disparity.
	Or are you talking about more?
	Men and women.
	Oh, okay, because I was about to say that.
	Could I have an opinion on this?
	No.
	Sorry, I just wanted to be polite.
	Just go ahead.
	So I worked blue-collar jobs for the majority of my life when I started working.
	It was mostly blue-collar jobs.
	I got paid the same as everyone else did.
	Some people got paid a little bit more because they had more experience.
	That's a factor.
	But they were predominantly men.
	Can I ask you a quick question?
	How did you know everybody's pay?
	I don't.
	Oh, okay.
	I don't know everybody's pay.
	Okay, go ahead.
	I just, so I worked with my ex-fiancé, and that's his pay was better more than mine because he worked there longer than me.
	So it doesn't, it doesn't, I don't think it matters on gender, in my opinion.
	It doesn't.
	I think it matters more on experience.
	Because there was a woman there in the past.
	She made more than that.
	Okay, we've kind of ventured off into wage gap discussion.
	I mean, really quick on the wage gap since it came up, I suppose it is somewhat central to a lot of feminist arguments.
	Do you think female basketball players, so WNBA, should be they be paid the same as NBA players?
	Absolutely not.
	It is the only.
	Oh, God.
	Okay, let's start over here.
	Move around.
	Quiet, you.
	Oh, everything's on that.
	No, no, no, no, I know, but just, I, okay.
	I do.
	I do.
	You think they should be paid the same?
	What about you, Madison?
	No.
	I don't because of the advertisement.
	So the regular NBA, they get a lot of advertisement on their, you know, when they're paying basketball and everything.
	The WNBA is not as much.
	So the income would be a lot different, you know, because they don't fill up the stadiums like the NBA and all of that good stuff.
	So that's the only reason I say no.
	But if it was the same, if they got the same endorsements, if they had the same film inside the stadium, yes, they should.
	Wait, the same fill is like that.
	Like if they could fill up a stadium like a big stadium.
	But they can't because it sucks.
	I mean, I don't know.
	I mean, a lot of people.
	I mean, it does, right?
	It sucks.
	It's not as fun to watch.
	I wasn't watching this because I didn't really know about it like that.
	Honestly.
	Okay, so, I mean, there's other components like merchandise sales and other factors.
	Even if I think the WNBA could fill a stadium, there's still other components of the money that the respective.
	But, anyways, okay, what about you?
	This is the same point, really, isn't it?
	Unfortunately, there's not enough support for female sport, and that's why they can't fill the stadiums.
	They can't make the money.
	So they can't get the same endorsement because there's not enough support for it.
	I agree on both of what they say.
	Yep.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, I also agree.
	And I believe the WNBA is the only industry that is in the negative as far as profits go every single year.
	And the only reason it is still funded, I believe, is due to legality of if they fund a male sport, they also have to send the equivalent funding to the female sport.
	It's not that, but you do make a really good point.
	So the NBA subsidizes the WNBA.
	So, yeah, that's a good point.
	Anything else?
	No, I just think it's a good question.
	I wanted to start on that side and come around.
	What about you?
	No, I don't think they should be paid the same for the same reason for the advertisements.
	Okay.
	And everything else.
	Wait, so okay, going back to you, you said.
	Go back to me.
	You said.
	So you said they should be paid the same.
	I honestly feel like they do simply because of the reasons that everybody is stating.
	Because they don't.
	Like history, I feel like it's the reason why they push more for the male sport than the female sport.
	And since it's been that way, it's going to continue to be that way.
	There's never been, I feel like there's not a bigger push for women's sports than like women's basketball.
	I have a question.
	I've got a question for you.
	Oh, God.
	Name three.
	Name three.
	I want you to name three WNBA players.
	Name three NBA players.
	Oh, that's easy.
	LeBron James, Paul Pierce, Kevin Durant.
	Oh, keep going.
	It sounds like you're not.
	I mean, I can name more, but.
	Okay.
	Oh, you want me to keep going?
	Yeah, keep going.
	Oh, my God.
	Steph Curry.
	Steph Curry, Alan Iverson.
	Shoot.
	You are new ones or older.
	I think it's actually the case that even for women, at least for the WNBA, actually a fairly decent portion of their viewership is men.
	It's not even, so women just aren't watching sports.
	I don't feel like I was pushed to watch it enough.
	Push to watch it.
	Like, I feel like it wasn't, like you guys said, it's not enough advertising for WNBA than it is for NBA.
	Like, you, you know, how big have you ever seen?
	Have you ever seen WNBA game?
	On TV?
	Yeah.
	They suck, right?
	No, they don't suck.
	There are some good women, black women.
	They're okay.
	They're okay, but they suck.
	I don't think they suck.
	I just think they're not hard enough.
	Do you think that if you had an all-women's football team, that that would be nearly as entertaining to watch as the NFL?
	Hell no.
	Because it wouldn't be as aggressive as, you know, we want to see these guys knock the shit out of each other.
	That's the whole thing.
	That's why I wanted to advocate for an all-women's football team.
	See, I don't feel like certain sports women should play.
	And football is one of them.
	So they're unequal.
	In sports?
	Yeah.
	I never disagreed with that.
	You had something quick?
	Yeah, interesting fact, actually.
	I can't remember what year, but I think it might have been last year that the women's, English women's football team got into the World Cup final and the men didn't.
	And it wasn't even advertised in our papers.
	You remember that time that they didn't make it?
	But it's just like interesting to see because they're quite good.
	They are quite good at football, but our football isn't our football soccer.
	Well, they're not focused on it.
	It's not like smashing.
	No, no, they're not quite good at football.
	You remember what happened when the high school team took on that big, I don't remember what the team was, but it was a high school soccer team which took on national.
	Okay.
	They do this in various countries.
	The women's national team, so the best players from all the clubs get scorched by 15-year-old boys.
	Yeah, soccer players.
	I mean, brutal.
	And they mess with them.
	These are like the best of the best.
	There's like 15-year-olds, and they're just, you know, knocking the soccer ball back and forth, playing with them, kind of giving them the fingers.
	They run it down.
	You know what I mean?
	They kick it into the goal.
	They kind of laugh at them.
	It's pretty fun to watch, actually.
	You should check it out.
	As in, so your national soccer team, or like the players from across the world.
	I think I'm is it like players from across the world or is it just your national?
	So as in like the American national team.
	Okay, well, I was talking about the English national team.
	They're quite good.
	The American national team was quite good as well.
	They didn't win the World Cup.
	Oh, we did.
	Well, it's kind of like a favorite point.
	No, sorry, that wasn't even a mean point.
	I wasn't even trying to be mean there.
	Like, that wasn't.
	It's kind of like women winning the special Olympics.
	Like, you're still.
	It's the comparison at point.
	It's like not skill level.
	It's men versus women, 15-year-old boys.
	Don't cancel that.
	Okay, let me do a couple chats here.
	We have Fally.
	We're going to come back to the feminism stuff.
	Yo, good evening, Brian.
	Base takes didn't understand 90% of the stuff you mentioned about World of Warcraft, but I played it close to a decade ago.
	And goddamn, do I want to play it again after all that?
	Andrew equals W.
	I don't play anymore, but it's out there if you want to go play it.
	And by the way, shout out to Nemesis for it's the band of Acuria from Ragnaros.
	That's the ring that rogues want.
	Band of Acuria.
	Thank you, Nemesis.
	We have at least HAC.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	So if all humans ought to be equal, does that apply to unborn ones too?
	Okay.
	Good question.
	Treading into dangerous territory here.
	But why not?
	You can choose your left or your right uterus.
	When are they considered human, though?
	When is the unborn child considered human?
	Conception.
	Well, this is a good question.
	We would say a conception.
	Who would?
	Well, Christians would.
	Well, yeah.
	I mean, Christians, I mean, okay.
	Because it meets, because it means it meets the criteria for biological life.
	Okay.
	So is that you consider that answer to be subjective then?
	No, I don't think it's subjective.
	I think that we would always err on the side of life.
	So, I mean, always.
	So I think it's a subjective metric from the other side.
	I think the other side says, well, we don't know.
	So we just, whenever we feel like it.
	Yeah.
	You know what I mean?
	That's the way I see it.
	Did you get to respond to the message?
	Oh, God.
	Okay.
	All right.
	No, it's okay.
	I believe when happens over there.
	Okay, all right.
	No, I got it.
	I believe it's when it's brain function.
	When their brain begins to function, that's when human life begins.
	And then I think that's when it's wrong, which is quite early on, actually.
	Does this mean that if somebody's in a coma or they have some kind of like detriment to their brain function, that it's okay to take them out?
	Well, no, because if they're in a coma, their brain is still, their brain does not function.
	What if they're brain dead, but maybe it could be rebooted at some point with technology?
	Is that still a human?
	Sorry, that's a tough question, isn't it?
	I just feel like I don't, yeah, if they're brain dead, they're brain dead.
	From a nursing perspective, if they have brain activity, they aren't brain dead, so we can't, they're not gonna pull the plug on them.
	But if they have organs that shutting down and them without the machine would cause them to die, then yes.
	Yeah, I get it.
	So, so then what sort of brain activity would be a requirement for it to be a baby?
	That was gonna be my next question.
	Were we sure if you had something you wanted to?
	I was just gonna ask, because you're saying when the brain starts to function, but what are you basing off of?
	Is that your own personal opinion?
	No, like there's like stages of the pregnancy and the brain and the heart start and then start.
	And that's when I think that that's a little baby, but that's literally it's but you said that's what I think.
	Um, pardon, sorry, what did you say?
	I'm just trying to understand because you said that's when you think it's a baby and it's a human.
	Um, unfortunately, we have to make that decision.
	If we're not going to do life at conception, you have to decide when.
	And I would say then that it would be wrong to terminate.
	When does the brain start functioning?
	I cannot tell you off the top of my head, but there is like stages, and they're like literal stages in the pregnancy, and it's quite early on.
	Does it need to be fully functioning?
	Like, what if the kid is going to be born with a really, really low IQ for the rest of their life?
	Just because I have a low IQ doesn't mean they don't have a brain.
	Well, it does.
	And here's why, because it could be that their brain function is different than a normal kid's brain function, right?
	So you're saying when we get brain function, I want to know what kind of brain function.
	Well, when you can, when you read brain function on the ultrasound, I feel like that's the only way you're going to test it.
	Just any kind?
	Any kind, yes, I'll go with any kind.
	Of brain function.
	Yeah, any kind of brain function.
	Okay.
	What's that called when you put the buzzer in?
	Final answer.
	Okay, great.
	So why is brain function the important thing?
	Because it starts the heart to beat, doesn't it?
	It starts the heart to beat.
	Yeah, why is that the important delineation for when you consider it life?
	Because it's going to have brain function, right?
	Yes.
	And heartbeating.
	So they work together to pump life.
	Yeah, but it's going.
	Yeah, but what I'm saying is it's going to have brain function.
	So you are artificially stopping it from having brain function, right?
	Yes, I am artificially stopping it from having brain function.
	Why is that okay?
	Because there are things called unplanned pregnancies.
	There are situations in which you do not want to have a child.
	There are conditions in which I'm not allowed to say on this podcast that you don't want to have a child.
	And I think you are more than entitled to terminate a life if you feel like you need to.
	And I feel like it's not a problem.
	Just not at brain function.
	And if you can say before brain function, it makes the woman that's doing it feel a lot less guilty.
	And I don't think we should make women feel guilty for terminating life.
	So let's say brain function starts at three weeks.
	Let's just say it did.
	It starts at three weeks.
	I'd like the exact time.
	I'm going to tell you why it's important.
	Just give me a second.
	Let's just say it started at three weeks.
	We'll just assume it for a second.
	Okay?
	And this was an SA victim.
	Didn't find out until week six.
	Right?
	Could the SA victim terminate then?
	Well, I think.
	Well, that's a difficult one, isn't it?
	I think every single thing.
	Well, I don't know because you just got done telling me that if the brain's functioning.
	If the brain's functioning, it's a human, but every situation, you have to take it into account.
	It's a case-by-case basis.
	You can't just be like, as you love to generalize life and everything, you can't generalize.
	I'm being hyper-specific.
	Yes, I know, and I'm saying you have to take it case-by-case basis within the body.
	So I just gave you the case.
	Here's the case.
	The case is the brain's function.
	You didn't know you were pregnant, and it was from an SA to keep it.
	You have to have that baby, then she doesn't have to have that baby.
	Well, then the brain function, what you've just said is it's a human being when there's brain function, and to determinate it would be murder at that point, and you just advocated it's okay to murder a kid.
	Yeah, okay.
	Okay.
	I think that's more than fair.
	I have one question on this.
	So your position is a woman should have the right to be able to.
	I'm pro-choice, yes.
	Yeah.
	Question for you, kind of sort of related to that.
	Let's say a man doesn't want to be for the exact same, some of the exact same reasons that you listed out.
	Say he's not financially ready, he doesn't want to be a father yet, he's not in a place in his life, whatever the reason may be.
	But primarily, he's not financially ready, and he just isn't maybe emotionally ready to be a father.
	And I think you cited those as some reasons why women should or would have an abortion.
	What I kind of understand.
	I preempted myself here.
	I understand.
	But so a guy gets a woman pregnant, right?
	And she, let's say she wants to keep the kid, but he has all those financial and emotional concerns.
	What would you say to him if you had a male friend who got a woman pregnant under those circumstances?
	What would you say to him?
	So you can't obviously force someone to have an abortion.
	But at the end of the day, I think there should be like she should be a discussion that's had with him and said partner because if he's not financially ready to support, she then can't you and she wants to have the baby and he's like, I don't want to.
	If she has the right to terminate and not keep, he should have the right to be like, actually, I'm not ready for a baby.
	I don't think I can do this yet.
	I don't want to be involved.
	And that's, but that's all he can do because he can't force her to have a baby.
	Sure, but you do acknowledge that while the state, I don't know, I believe abortion is just wholly available in the United UK, correct?
	So the state would, despite her saying, well, you know, I understand, you know, but I'm going to keep the kid and he doesn't want to be financially involved, the state would then force him into fatherhood and would force him to, at minimum, pay child support to the woman.
	Well, actually, I'm not familiar with child support laws specifically in the UK, but I'm assuming it's fairly similar.
	Yeah, no, where you would be compelled to pay child support.
	despite your lack of yeah so but i mean what do you say to a man in that position So, do you say that I wish I could say that?
	But what would you tell him?
	Would you tell him, well, tough, you should have thought of that before having sex?
	Probably as a joke, yes, but not seriously.
	But I would like I'd love there to, oh, I wouldn't love for there to be a law involved, but I think if a man doesn't want to have involvement, that is sad.
	But there should be a law.
	But it's sad for a child, eventually, because that child's dad didn't want them.
	That's always going to be sad.
	Would you make that same argument for a woman who gets an abortion?
	Yeah, it's sad.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That's for sure.
	And it's also women go through a lot of pain when they do that.
	It's very, it's a not one.
	But you said you said there should be a law where men can almost like waiver the right to pay child support if they don't want to be involved.
	I'd say I mean my personal position on this in any state where abortion is legal, I think men should have a corresponding right to I agree.
	I completely agree.
	It's called legal paternal surrender where they basically relinquish any sort of paternal rights, parental rights, and by extension they don't have to be obligated to pay child support.
	But can they then get back involved?
	So say in like 10 years' time, they're like, fuck, I actually really want to.
	I suppose they can negotiate anything.
	They can negotiate anything with the mother.
	But if, yeah, I'm not sure on the specifics of the world.
	But I 100% agree with you.
	I think that it should be allowed.
	You know what I actually think?
	I think people who are pro-life, actually, you might actually convince some men to join your cause if you were to say, well, we're going to push through legal paternal surrender as part of like some, you know, Cooperative for pro-choicers.
	I feel like there should be something like that in place.
	I don't think it's fair.
	Like, it's not fair is probably not the right word, but I don't think it should all lay on the mother's shoulders, actually, because it is like a big burden to take on a whole person.
	It's a person.
	Like, that is a that's 18 years of parental responsibility, like from day dot.
	And then, like, I'm 25, I still borrow money off my mom, so I'm still a massive financial burden.
	So for life, yeah.
	So for life, we'll move on a little bit here.
	We have Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
	We're gonna start with you and we're gonna go around the table.
	Why don't you go ahead?
	I'm a nine.
	Okay.
	Madison?
	An eight.
	I'm gonna rate myself a ten.
	Seven?
	Five?
	I'll say seven.
	I'm abdicating.
	I'm not doing this.
	Oh, come on.
	Come on.
	Well, it's like anyone who's been asked to, it's like a, it's a, it's a.
	It's a what?
	It's a, it's kind of like a paradox, right?
	We're being asked a question that would be subjective based on other people's opinions.
	Like if you rate yourself a one, you're kind of a pick-me.
	If you rate yourself a 10, you're narcissistic.
	And I'm just, I don't mean that in general.
	I mean what people's opinions are.
	Just one number.
	Why do you think I picked five?
	I'm right in the middle.
	Yeah, I felt that.
	I was like, I was like, seven's good.
	I don't let you feel it myself.
	I'm not here to care about what anybody else would possibly do.
	No, no, you're rated.
	I could lose the ball.
	For me, I don't care about what anybody else thinks.
	He said, rate myself.
	When I look in the mirror, how do I think that I feel about me?
	A 10.
	Well, it's not how you feel about you.
	It's like if you make your own assessment, like if you intellectualize, you try to make an assessment of like, hmm, if I'm comparing myself to other people and like, am I where I want to be?
	But that's not how I was rating myself, though.
	I was just rating myself off of you said, you know, rate your looks on the scale of one to ten.
	Exactly.
	That's the only I was doing.
	Not compared to how she looks or if she's thinner than me or if she's shorter than me.
	It's not about that because you might not like me being a big girl, but it's guys who actually love plus-size women.
	You know what I mean?
	It's not, everybody's perspective of beauty is not the same.
	So yes, you might not think I'm a 10.
	The societal norm is be thin.
	I'm not relating that.
	It is what it is.
	I'm a 10.
	So if I concede that there may very well be some men who view you as a 10, if we were to take a cross-section of like, say, 100,000 men, some of which might think you're a 10, some of which might not.
	Some might go say three.
	Some going to say two.
	Some going to probably even say zero.
	What do you think the average would be?
	I have no clue.
	I mean, it depends on where I go.
	If you take me to the suburb, they're going to give me a zero.
	If you take me to the hood, it's different.
	You feel me?
	Wherever you take me, it's wherever it's going to be.
	You feel me?
	Like, it's, that's it.
	So, Andrew, what do you rate yourself on a scale of one to ten?
	Four.
	I could just say.
	Oh, Andrew.
	Energy yourself.
	Andrew.
	No, you don't believe that.
	Like, you got your hair off.
	Four.
	You got your hair on it.
	Stop.
	You grew nice.
	You know what I mean?
	You don't even have any lint on your shirt.
	There's no way you're going to be able to get it.
	It's not subtle, but just, I don't know.
	What if you rate yourself out of 10?
	I'm just a poor kind of guy.
	Like, I'm going around.
	Yeah, what do you rate yourself?
	Oh, me?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I don't know you next.
	Five.
	Give myself a five.
	Oh, why are you doing yourself a five?
	Like an average white guy.
	No.
	I agree.
	No.
	I say you got a five.
	Did you just say I agree?
	Yeah, I do.
	I agree.
	It's crazy.
	I agree with you.
	No, I wouldn't put you in an average white guy.
	Do you have a problem with me agreeing with you?
	No, not at all.
	Because if you genuinely think you're a five, why would you get offended?
	Oh, I wasn't offended.
	Okay, my bad.
	I just thought, okay.
	Well, you know, do you agree?
	I'm a four?
	No, I wasn't average.
	I'm not really.
	No, I think I just thought it was funny.
	I wasn't offended.
	Well, you know, it's also the same thing for me.
	I'm an average white girl.
	I'm bigger, you know.
	I'm not skinny, but I'm average.
	Average white dude.
	I could be a six if I lost a bit of weight.
	I got a dad bogged right now.
	Nah, dot butts are sexy.
	I'm sorry.
	I stand for a dot button.
	Not me trying to hit on you.
	Sorry.
	That's not a problem.
	That was something.
	But okay, so we have, you said nine, correct?
	I did.
	And you said ten.
	Guys, please don't take this the wrong way.
	Of course not.
	Oh, I don't care.
	People come and call me ugly for you.
	I think your self-assessments are erroneous.
	Erroneous.
	Incorrect.
	Based on.
	On you.
	How many you were born?
	You know what?
	I'll be like, based on an average white guy.
	All right.
	Right.
	Not my chicken doesn't look here to you, but my chicks look good for them.
	It's cool.
	It's cool.
	I'm not offended, trust me.
	I'm not everybody's cup of tea.
	And it's never going to be, I'm never going to be everybody's cup of tea ever.
	So I didn't think anybody's ever going to be everybody's cup.
	No, exactly.
	So I'm curious if you can hear what he has to say.
	Oh, go ahead.
	Finish.
	Sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	Say it, Brian.
	Well, I guess, I mean, you guys are like, you're average looking.
	You're average looking.
	To you.
	To you.
	And I'm being, I feel like I might, you know, perhaps being a little generous.
	Can I ask the men at this table to rate the woman?
	I don't know if that's too toxic.
	Well, I mean, I don't.
	You're being generous by saying I'm average.
	No, it's okay.
	I might be.
	It might be a little.
	He's a white guy in his 30s, of course.
	I'll rate every chick here.
	Okay, if I can get it.
	One, and one.
	Whoa.
	Chick two.
	He's married.
	That is what we like to hear from married men.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, it's because he's married.
	Guys, it's because he's married.
	He only has eyes for his wonderful wife.
	Steps you to a point five.
	I couldn't help it.
	I couldn't help it.
	Don't worry.
	Oh, wow.
	I'm not going to get enraged by anybody's opinions over here.
	I get it all day, every day.
	Do you mind rating the woman at the table?
	I feel like it's kind of rude to actually give somebody a rating.
	I consent to being rated.
	Wait, so it's nine.
	I forget.
	Eight.
	Eight, ten, seven, seven, five, five, seven, seven.
	She didn't rate it.
	She refuses.
	She omits.
	I don't.
	I will rate if, okay, I'll only do it if each of you individually give me permission to rate you.
	Not permission, but you say you're fine with me giving you an actual number.
	You're okay with it?
	I am.
	Maddie?
	I don't care, obviously.
	No, you just call me below average, so it's no need for you to give me a number today.
	Okay, she doesn't want.
	Yeah, I'm cool with it.
	Go for it.
	Oh, God.
	Well, you said that.
	Okay.
	My turn is a force word.
	I'm afraid of it.
	Oh, she's a good idea.
	And that reminds me of the video we did behind a man of generous because that's what you said you were being.
	Yeah.
	So, and what do you think?
	What do you guys say?
	Put it all out there on the table.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So, okay, I'm going to do like a what's oh fuck, what's the what's the word?
	A uh holistic hand you're generalization.
	This is gonna be like a holistic assessment here.
	So we went from a rate to a holistic assessment.
	This is gonna be like a holistic thing.
	So thank you.
	Okay, so um I think you know, you've got like a kind of aesthetic face, you know.
	Now, I think I might get in trouble if I can't.
	What isn't an aesthetic face?
	Like, you gotta, your face is good, you know?
	I mean, now I think it was fine with numbers there, so let's go there.
	Listen, I feel like I'm gonna get clipped here.
	You are, okay.
	I actually, I don't think I should give my reasons for my rating.
	Maybe I should just go ahead and give the rating.
	Yeah, that might be the same thing.
	I don't want to come off as the R word.
	So, what?
	Retard?
	Ends with a T. Ends with it.
	I want you to tell me what you were going to say.
	Because I'm worried about what nobody is.
	I said you don't want to come off as that.
	Racist?
	Yes.
	Why is that the R word?
	I thought the R word was retard.
	I thought he said a couple words we couldn't say.
	Oh, here you go.
	You're definitely saying the word.
	But wait, what?
	Oh, sorry.
	I get a pass because I am the R word.
	Okay.
	Oh, you are.
	I get a pass.
	Okay.
	No, I looked at your page and I see anything.
	No, not the word that ends with T, the one that ends with D.
	The one that ends with D.
	I get a pass.
	I get.
	Oh, she thought you made it.
	I have the L.
	Oh, that would have been bad.
	No, I'm not a racist.
	I am not a racist.
	I apologize for that comment.
	I get the pass to say the word because I am.
	Wait, what word are we talking about now?
	R-R-T-A-R-D-E-D.
	That's just so clinical.
	I'm actually clinically retarded.
	Okay.
	I totally believe you.
	Checks out.
	I think they're trying to save you.
	I would never, I would never.
	I would never just don't do it.
	I'm a nice guy.
	I don't think you should.
	I think you should save me.
	She said it was okay.
	I asked you to rate me.
	She asked me to rate.
	Cancel yourself here today.
	Why would I cancel my race?
	You saw me.
	You'll say I don't want to get instigated.
	I don't want to get clicked.
	Don't do it.
	Just get off of what you said.
	Just go with the number.
	Don't explain it.
	I don't think it's a cancelable offense.
	Haven't you done it before?
	When solicited to rate somebody.
	Jubilee.
	Oh, that's right.
	Yeah, Jubilee.
	They're fine.
	Okay.
	All right.
	2.5.
	Wow.
	2.5?
	Okay.
	Do you have fake titties?
	Yeah, new one.
	Four days to get it.
	Like 4.5.5.
	4.5.
	Do the two vaginas inform your rating at all.
	It's neither here nor there.
	I think it had a little bit of influence, just a little bit.
	It's okay, sweetheart.
	3.5.
	Okay.
	And then Malek.
	Malik.
	Malik Maban.
	Malik.
	5.
	And then Andrew Wilson's a 10 out of 10.
	Absolutely.
	The Brotherhood wins again.
	Okay.
	The patriarchy wins again.
	Okay, good talk, everybody.
	She said she didn't.
	Oh, she didn't want to be rated.
	So, uh, I mean, I'm fine with me rating you.
	I really, I was okay.
	I was okay being skipped over.
	I didn't want to make my own opinion.
	I think we need another seat booster.
	Oh, could you scoot your mic that way?
	I feel like your face is getting a little blocked off.
	Yeah, I'm not going to rate you.
	She didn't rate herself.
	I'm sure the chat's rated all of us already.
	Yeah.
	I know.
	Just don't rate it out here.
	I'm trying to get no comments to see that.
	She's like maybe 6.5 or 7.
	Amazing.
	There you go.
	Yeah, there you have it.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	The only 10 here is Kiki back there.
	I don't know if we can get a zoom in on.
	Can you just there?
	She is.
	Look at her.
	She's such a honeycomb.
	Oh, he didn't want her to run away.
	She's the only 10 here.
	That girl's been to watch.
	She knows this person.
	She put in that real work.
	But okay, really quick, just to wrap up on this.
	Yeah.
	10, 9.
	Don't you think it's a little delusional, a little hubris to say I'm perfect in your case and I'm nearly perfect in your case?
	I mean, I don't see it as.
	See, I feel like people take rating differently.
	Like, me saying I'm a nine, I don't see that as me saying I'm nearly perfect.
	I'm rating a lot of different things about myself.
	Looks being well, no, no, no, no.
	But the question is: looks, right?
	You're just looks?
	Well, that was the question.
	I'm pretty as fuck.
	And I don't like that.
	So it's still nine.
	I'm not sure for my body.
	It's still annoying.
	So, wait, but you said it can always be annoying.
	Oh, okay, because it sounds like you're not.
	I'm not going to say 10 because I'm not perfect.
	I've never been perfect.
	Nobody's perfect.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Are you trying to argue my rate, my own personal rate?
	Oh, I thought that's what I was doing this whole time.
	No, I don't know what that is.
	I thought I was already asked me to rate myself.
	You didn't ask me to compare myself against your rate.
	Oh, yeah.
	Word.
	How do you think society would rate you?
	I don't know.
	And I don't know.
	How do you think?
	I'm going to be American society.
	Yeah, I was about to say 100,000 frat boys.
	They're going to go as.
	Come on, come on.
	Come on, Mal.
	Come on.
	Wait, first off, I know it would take you to the bottom.
	No, wait, let me just.
	I'm going to gas you off.
	Let me know.
	Maddie, she knows.
	This is UCSB.
	We're in the UCSB area.
	And I know some frat boys that I could link you up with some tonight that would the gobbler.
	No, the frat boys don't.
	No, they don't mess with us.
	Oh, they mess with you.
	I mean, they do, actually, online, but in person, no.
	Yo, if there's any fat boys at UCSB watching right now, fuck.
	What are some frats, Madison?
	Just listen.
	There's Sig F. Sig F. Sig up.
	K Sig.
	K Sig.
	I don't know.
	That's all I asked.
	Yo, fucking DM us, boys.
	I'll get you linked up with these two beautiful ladies tonight, and you guys can have, they'll invite you to a frat party.
	No, I don't do meats.
	Sorry.
	Well, no, no, no, not like they just want to party with you and like kick it and do peyote.
	I ain't here to party.
	What you here for?
	I'm here to get it on business.
	Oh, shit.
	She's here to get.
	You know what, though?
	They might.
	Okay.
	You better dip into them funds.
	The college funds.
	I ain't got nothing else to do with that.
	They're all broke.
	Word.
	Okay, we have the Ranger here.
	Andrew, a right is just another word for freedom.
	Freedom can be measured and has consequences.
	No, right's not another word for freedom.
	Is this to what you were saying last time or something?
	I think so.
	When we were talking about rights and stuff.
	All right.
	It's just about a bird for freedom.
	That's it.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Here, let's get into.
	Oh, videos.
	Let's do.
	We got two.
	Actually, before that, Twitch, we're gonna do Twitch and guys, go to our Twitch, twitch.tv/slash whatever mods.
	If you can spam it, drop us a follow in the Prime Sub if you have one, and then go to our Eclipse channel.
	Get us to 1 million subscribers, guys.
	We're so close to 1 million subs.
	Get us there, boys.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	We're gonna pull up a video, Nick.
	It's the one of the videos.
	It's not the boat one, it's the two girls or something.
	Yeah, go full screen with it.
	Sorry, every time I just hit two girls and something, your head just caught not.
	Oh, can you drag it to the beginning?
	Yeah.
	When he says, Do you want to come over?
	And the girls are looking along verse come over.
	Okay, and they're doing some cringe fucking TikTok dance.
	So it's, do you want to come over?
	Question versus come over.
	Actually, Nick, can you pull it up?
	And I want to read the comments on that.
	Should I pull the comments up?
	Yeah, just go out of full screen.
	And there's some comments on there that I just want to read maybe the top few.
	Yeah, put us on the other side and make it bigger.
	I can't read.
	Okay.
	I don't understand.
	Make it a little bigger.
	Scroll up.
	I don't understand why I always end up dating assholes.
	So this is why there's so much confus.
	Okay.
	Guys taking notes be like, okay, have no manners, got it.
	Plot twists, unless he's physically not attractive enough, then he's creepy by not asking.
	Them in 10 years, why is there no good men?
	Take notes, guys.
	They do not want a gentleman.
	Unfortunately, we want independence.
	Same women, give us instructions.
	Give women orders, not suggestions.
	Noted.
	I will not allow them free will to decide.
	They hate okay.
	And that's pretty much it.
	So, okay.
	Your guys' thoughts on the little TikTok?
	Maybe not the comments so much, but the actual YouTube video.
	Do you guys, okay, do you prefer a guy?
	Would you prefer a guy to say, what was the first one?
	Do you want to come over?
	Do you want to come over versus a guy just saying, come over?
	Or does it not matter?
	It depends for me.
	How so?
	If it's a guy that I'm pursuing as far as like dating, I would definitely prefer you to ask me.
	If it's somebody that I've been dealing with and I'm used to you and I'm comfortable with you, I'm kind of cool with the come over just because we already have that dynamic.
	But yeah, most of the time I would like you to be polite and ax.
	I don't think it's that deep.
	Like I've never really thought too deep into that, but I get why they think that the comeover is more appealing because they want guys to be like, I want you to come over.
	You know what I mean?
	I don't know.
	I don't get it though.
	For me, it really don't matter.
	I know for the video, though, wise, it looks like they're just want the more assertive guy.
	You know what I mean?
	Who says, just come over.
	That's what it seems like to me.
	Okay.
	So for me, like, when I first watched the video, I was like, yeah, I get it.
	It's sexy when a man's like, do this.
	But then I read the comments and I was like, shit, actually, like, it's kind of cocky.
	No consent.
	And I'm like, shit, yeah, they didn't really ask my permission.
	But so it's a hard one because it's like that.
	I think the no consent ones are a bit of a stretch.
	That's a bit of a stretch.
	But the ones where it's like.
	I get it like in the sense that I used the wrong one, but like I get where they got where they were coming from.
	I was like, I would like that to be said to me, but then I also do realize what that's actually putting off when that's not what my intention would have been to put off.
	I just want like a manly man in my head that that's what Manly Man would do.
	But maybe actually I'm like, people do want gentlemen, so maybe asking is actually better.
	Now that comments changed my complete perspective.
	This is super simple.
	It's like when you ask a woman, where do you want to go to dinner?
	The worst fucking idea on planet Earth.
	The number definitely has to tell them what we're going to do.
	What you do is you say, here's where we're going to dinner.
	And that's the same thing as this.
	Come over.
	It means the same thing.
	Don't ask them what they fucking want.
	We're going here.
	And that's it.
	Your thoughts.
	Yeah, no.
	The do you want to come over?
	I love that way more.
	You know, I love the validation, the reinsurance.
	Go for it.
	I actually disagree with most of them.
	So maybe this is just based on how I was raised in my culture, but I think that the man should be dominant, the man should be assertive, the man should lead the woman.
	And obviously with consent, but the woman should want to submit to her man.
	So I personally prefer when men just say, hey, we're doing this.
	Hey, come over.
	Hey, do you want to do this?
	Versus being all timid and kind of submissive.
	Hey, do you want to do this?
	Hey, where should we go for food?
	I prefer when men know what they want.
	And like I said, obviously there's like the consent was stretching it.
	But I prefer for men to be dominant and confident.
	I think that social media builds in really weird tests for relationships and expectations.
	Like, I think that a guy can be an alpha and have male leadership and still say, hey, would you like to come over?
	Absolutely.
	You can be like an alpha male and have manners.
	And to me, it correlates with like, have you guys seen the orange peel theory on social media where they're like, oh, basically, it's like, if you won't, if you, oh, can I have an orange?
	And then it's turned into this whole, you know, if you won't feel an orange for me, you don't love me.
	Oh, wow.
	And I think it's crazy.
	I mean, we're referring to social media, not we, but, you know, people refer to social media as, again, societal norms, things that are good, things that we want.
	And these, it's, to me, it's hard with how young these girls look.
	You know, I can never figure out how old people are anymore because nobody has an awkward stage, unfortunately.
	Where are they going?
	Yeah, like that hit me like a ton of bricks.
	I just caught the character, you know, wave.
	It builds character.
	It's good.
	I'm glad I'm 25.
	But, you know, it's just the these young girls placing these, you know, expectations and for them to be advocating for a domineering.
	And if they're not old enough or don't understand what actual male leadership looks like, it can be an actually very dangerous expectation.
	You know, I think that there's a middle ground between, you know, wanting your man to be a beta, wanting him to be your bestie, or wanting him to be like whatever.
	I think that's kind of a weird thing too that's on social media.
	But there's a middle ground between that and like, you need to come over.
	And I think that most people would call that healthy.
	I don't believe that you know where you want to go to dinner anymore than any of the rest of them do.
	There's another dinner.
	I never said I knew where I wanted to go to dinner.
	You never know.
	There's another trend about that where guys will just be like, oh, like, guess where we're going for dinner?
	And the girl will say something and then he'll just be like, exactly, that's where we're going.
	That's great.
	That's different to me than the comparison of like, you know, I guess it's also in context.
	These girls at this young age looking at like domineering behaviors between not, if someone was like, hey, do you want to go to, you know, I don't know, Chipotle, it gives an answer.
	I think most women would be like, cool, dinner, decided, amazing.
	And then you have the whole menu to let free today.
	These girls only want people or men to say come over to only if they like really fucking like them.
	Right.
	Any other guy putting them in trouble.
	It depends a lot on whether or not the woman is physically attracted to the man and then if she is interested in them.
	Because if it's just some random guy that maybe she finds creepy or maybe she finds ugly and says come over, she's going to be creeped out by it and not want anything to do with them.
	Absolutely.
	So what about context, isn't that?
	They only want that if they want to.
	Step one, be attractive.
	Step two, don't be unattractive.
	Basically.
	Don't ask people if they're peeling orange for you.
	Well, it's really interesting, though, because like the exact same behavior and treatment that a woman might deem creepy in one man and flirting or desirable in another man really just breaks down to whether she finds that man attractive or unattractive.
	100%.
	So the same behavior, like if he's unattractive, it's creepy.
	Now, look, there's some things that are just creepy across the board.
	But like, there's certain things where if the guy's attractive, oh, she likes it, it's flirting.
	If she doesn't, if he's not attractive, then I'm ruining your career.
	Okay, I get what you're saying.
	It's if a woman was sitting alone, let's just say at a restaurant, and a guy that she found unattractive came and asked, hey, can I sit down by you?
	She'd be like, you know, you're creepy.
	But if a guy she thought was a 10 out of 10, it's true, though.
	If a guy who, in her eyes, she thought was a 10 out of 10 walked up to her and said, hey, can I sit with you?
	She'd be flattered and say yes.
	She's taking that.
	She's accepting the yeah, okay.
	Well, it is interesting, though, because it sort of a little bit gets into like, I mean, saying come over versus do you want to come over.
	It's not a huge leap, but you know, it's certainly a bit more assertive.
	But it is interesting, you know, there's this trope, and I think tropes tend to be based in some sort of truth.
	Is there any surprise that if women are attracted to and go for guys who are bad boys, jerks, and assholes, it's interesting to me.
	A lot of women complain about the men they've dated, previously dated, complain that they're jerks or assholes or whatever.
	But yet you find yourself attracted to these kinds of men.
	So is it any surprise when the guy who is exciting to you because he's maybe a bit of a jerk or an asshole ends up treating you poorly?
	Is it any surprise that you know?
	No, it's not surprising.
	It's just sad when it happens.
	Like you kind of mentally prepare yourself because you're like, he's an asshole.
	He's probably not going to treat me very nice.
	But you still kind of get...
	It's because they give off that alpha vibe.
	Like they make you feel like they just know how to do it.
	They're like good at charming.
	Most of them are charming and they make you feel special and you feel like you're on cloud nine for three weeks and it's the best thing of your entire life.
	And only for three weeks.
	Yeah, and then you're mentally preparing yourself and you're like, this is going to end.
	And this is going to be rough.
	And then it happens and then you cry lots and then you get over it and then you fall into the next one and you're like, babe, I'm ready.
	How many times have you gone through this?
	Lots.
	I know.
	Well, we're going to move on to our next thing here.
	But, oh, here we go.
	Okay.
	So, sorry, I only got your name, Wendingo.
	What's your actual name?
	Like, my real name.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, that's you introduced yourself, right?
	As Crow.
	Crow, okay, Crow.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	On your Instagram, you describe yourself as a witch.
	I sure do.
	What does that mean?
	I thought you said you were a Christian.
	I was a Christian, but there's a difference between being a Christian, doing white magic, and black magic.
	There's no all magic.
	I'm not Christian.
	No, I don't do black magic.
	I do white magic.
	But it's still satanic either way.
	What makes it okay?
	So let's just go through it real quick, if you don't mind.
	Yeah, for sure.
	What sort of practice is it, Wicca?
	Like, I do tarot card readings.
	I do spells.
	All the shit the Bible says not to do.
	Yeah.
	So how could you be a Christian if you're if you're practicing all the things the Bible tells you not to practice, which are sorcery, which would include tarot cards?
	Of course.
	Yeah, no, and I'm okay with that.
	So for me, when it comes to Christianity, I believe in God.
	You know, I believe Jesus died on the cross and all that kind of stuff, but I'm not following the Bible like everyone else is.
	I'm not.
	Clearly.
	I mean, I have a kid.
	I'm not even married.
	I have to say that.
	Yeah, but that's not.
	And even on the Bible.
	Yeah, but these things, the requisite for Christianity is what's called theosis.
	So this is the practice, it's an ongoing thing.
	It's not a thing that you just do.
	That's a Protestant thing, right?
	Ah, I'm a Christian, and now I'm done for good.
	It's an ongoing process.
	Oh, yeah, for sure.
	So the thing is, if you're going through this process for becoming a Christian, right?
	Then you're supposed to be moving away from sin and more towards Christ, right?
	In a way, yes.
	Well, no.
	What other way could there be?
	Well, no, exactly what you said.
	Absolutely.
	I'm not perfect by any means.
	Not saying, nobody is, right?
	Nobody is.
	But, you know, this is particularly, you know, the Bible really references this as being a no-go, especially when you're talking about tarot cards, right?
	So why would you actively engage in that?
	It's not, I don't actively engage in it, but I do it once in a while.
	I mean, I still do it, clearly, but it's once in a while.
	You know, I do these tarot card readings, but I don't do them out of, you know, like there's like certain goddesses and all that and gods and tarot card readings, but I don't believe in those god and goddesses.
	I believe in God.
	So whenever I do a tarot card reading, I do it with my one God.
	And then after I do a tarot card reading, I pray.
	And then even when I go to sleep at night, I pray.
	Yeah, but it doesn't make it, I'm sorry.
	It doesn't make it any better.
	That's actually the mark of the satanic inversion.
	So the mark of the satanic is inversion.
	So if you take a thing and you say, God tells me to do this sin, you're inverting it.
	Case in point, let me give you an example.
	Okay.
	Let's say, for instance, that somebody said, God wants me to do essay to a woman, right?
	What would you say?
	Clearly, no.
	Clearly.
	Why?
	Because not only is it morally bad in general, I mean, it's morally bad.
	So there's no general.
	All your morality as a Christian comes from the Bible.
	But it's not even, this is not even related to the Bible.
	This is just in general.
	Your morality comes from the Bible.
	You're a Christian, right?
	So you follow Christian ethics.
	Well, yeah.
	Yeah, so the dominating feature of your moral structure, how you know what's right, how you know what's wrong, is biblical, right?
	Well, like I said, I clearly don't follow the Bible, you know.
	Then what would make you a Christian if you used inversion?
	So the things which the Bible says are good, you do the opposite of those things.
	If you could say Satan wants you to do X, would you say it's things that are biblical or not biblical?
	What do you mean by that?
	So if Satan in the Bible, if you're going to make a moral claim, if it's anti-biblical, would that be something Satan would want you to do?
	Yes and no.
	There's a yes and no question to that.
	Because when you go to hell, if you die and you go to hell, Satan clearly won, right?
	He won what he wanted.
	But at the same time, he's also getting rid of the bad people.
	Getting rid of what bad people?
	Anyone that does anything wrong.
	They're getting rid of the bad people.
	If I'm destined to go to hell, that's where I'm going.
	But I'm not going to deter my work from.
	So you don't believe in free will?
	Well, yeah, there's clearly free will.
	I'm doing it.
	Well, then you're not destined to do anything, right?
	What?
	You're not destined to do anything if you have free will.
	Well, no.
	In the Bible, you will go to hell unless you're saved by God.
	Okay, so then is that destiny?
	Because if it's destiny, you don't have free will.
	I'm not dead.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, so hang on, let's just back it up, right?
	If I were to ask you, essay, right?
	That's wrong.
	You know it's wrong because you have a biblical base, right?
	It's not even Bible-related, but.
	Then how do you know it's wrong?
	It's the history entirely.
	I mean, it's in laws.
	It's not even religious.
	Are all things in laws wrong?
	For instance, slavery was a law.
	Obviously, that was wrong, right?
	Well, yeah.
	But it's changed over time.
	Same thing like the Bible says.
	Right, so just because it's law doesn't mean it's moral, right?
	Just because something is the law doesn't mean it's moral.
	Okay, sure.
	Yeah, so if that's the case, we know that some laws can be immoral.
	How do you know if you're doing something which is right?
	I'm not saying what I'm doing is right.
	That's not my question.
	How do you know if it is, though?
	I don't know.
	You don't know?
	No.
	Right.
	So then if you're a Christian and you're practicing biblical ethics, that's how you know the delineation between what's right and what's wrong.
	So if you don't practice what's biblically ethical, you're doing wrong.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So then you actually mean that you're not going to be able to do that.
	So then you can't be actually.
	Hang on.
	I'm almost done.
	I'm almost done.
	So then you actually can't be a Christian.
	Maybe not.
	Yeah.
	I'm just letting you know.
	I still believe in God, though.
	And I'm never going to not believe in God.
	Great.
	What you should do, right, is believe in God and be a Christian, right?
	Like, do both.
	I mean, sure, but I mean, I'll be honest with you.
	I'm not going to get rid of my work.
	I still believe in God.
	I still believe Jesus died on the cross for my sins.
	Who knows?
	Satan, Satan.
	You know who else believes in God?
	Satan?
	Yeah, Satan does, and you're absolutely right.
	I mean, I guess the belief in God's not enough, right?
	Satan was made by God, and Satan was God's.
	You were made by God.
	Yeah.
	So again, again, you know, just the belief alone is not.
	What does that mean?
	I still believe in God.
	And that's what matters at the end of the day.
	All right.
	Look, I may not follow the Bible entirely.
	Or computer.
	Clearly, I'm not perfect.
	No one's perfect, right?
	Yeah, but that's not the statement of Christianity that people are perfect.
	I'm not saying people are perfect.
	You're saying that you're trying to move towards the goal.
	You're trying to move towards the goal of being more Christ-like, right?
	That's it.
	No one's going to be that.
	No one's going to be what?
	No one's.
	More like Christ?
	Not Christ, but more like?
	You can't move towards that?
	You have free will.
	I mean, there's sins.
	Yeah, that means you're free to be more Christ-like.
	And if someone can do that, that's great.
	But I personally have never encountered that in my life, ever.
	I have personally never witnessed anyone that follows the Bible to a T.
	No, I'm not again saying that you can't make mistakes, you can't fall short, things like that, if you're going to.
	Like, that's kind of almost baked in, right?
	The question is, can you be moving towards not?
	Well, yeah, if you can be moving towards not doing that, if I quit doing what I'm doing and I studied the Bible more, absolutely.
	Then I don't understand why you don't do that.
	Because I don't want to.
	Oh, well, I mean, okay.
	I still believe in God at the end of the day, right?
	I don't have to be Christian to believe in God.
	You don't, but you have to be a Christian believing in Christian God.
	No, you don't.
	You don't?
	No.
	I still believe in God.
	I know Jesus died on the cross for my sins.
	I know all the books of the Bible.
	So I don't even know what Jesus wants you to do.
	I don't know what he wants me to do.
	Could there be like a book that you could read that would tell you?
	Well, we have the Bible, clearly.
	So, when you say, I don't know what Jesus wants me to do, but then you say there's a book that would tell me everything Jesus wanted me to do.
	So, you can see where I'm like, eh.
	I think, in my opinion, without reading the Bible, I think Jesus just wants someone to be kind.
	You don't, just because I'm just because I study what I study, that's not good in the Bible, I'm still a kind person.
	How do you know?
	What do you mean, how do I know?
	How do you know you're kind?
	I know I'm kind.
	How do you know?
	I just know.
	You just know.
	I'm not going around robbing people.
	I'm not going around making fun of people.
	I'm not going around doing any sort of thing.
	So, the societal standard for what kindness is.
	So, if you live in a different society where that wasn't considered unkind, right?
	Would you still be kind or unkind in that society?
	It depends on what society you're in.
	Right.
	So, if it's subjective, what kindness is, then why would kindness be the metric for which salvation was based around?
	I don't think it's salvation.
	Then, who cares about kindness?
	You see what I mean?
	It says in the Bible, Jesus wants you to be kind.
	That's what it exactly says.
	And if I ever stopped being a witch one day and I studied the Bible more, so be it.
	Okay, it's beautiful.
	It's beautiful.
	I don't know if it's beautiful.
	No, I loved that.
	That was beautiful.
	And that's the first time he was stumped, which was brilliant.
	No, I wasn't stumped.
	I don't think he was stumped.
	I don't know about that.
	It doesn't bother me because maybe you're right.
	I may not be Christian, but I still believe in God at the end of the day.
	And that's what matters to me.
	So are you Christian?
	Yeah.
	Catholic or Protestant?
	Orthodox.
	My brother's Orthodox.
	I see.
	Okay.
	Well, I have an announcement to make for the rest of the stream.
	And I apologize.
	So everywhere else we had it accurately, but just in the description of the YouTube video, it was already set to this.
	It was the wrong copy paste.
	So sorry for anybody who, that's why that original TTS came through differently.
	I apologize.
	I didn't know it was wrong in the description.
	Read is now 50 and up.
	TTS is now 100 and up for the rest of the stream.
	Sometimes we'd like to lower it a bit to allow more people to get their words in if you have any.
	So I'm just going to do a couple other adjustments here.
	Going around the table, just while I get that figured out, does anybody here have a dating hot take they'd like to share?
	Anybody?
	Dating hot take.
	I feel as though you should date what you like.
	So beautiful.
	If you like porn star pee stars, date those.
	If you like women who want to be a housewife, you like a traditional relationship, do that.
	If you like being a stag or a cuck.
	What's a stag?
	You do that.
	I mean, I know the cuck is.
	It's kind of like P. Diddy.
	P. Diddy?
	What is it?
	Oh, a guy who.
	Well, without the assault.
	Without the salt.
	The salt?
	The assault without that.
	Without the A. Y'all didn't know about what just happened.
	Anyways, but I was like, like a tequila show.
	I thought he was called Diddy.
	Is he P. Diddy, Puff Daddy?
	Actually, it's love now.
	Love?
	It's love.
	I remember common ground here.
	You know that song?
	This is like early.
	This might have been like late 90s, early 2000s.
	Bad boy for life.
	Yeah.
	We ain't going no way.
	We can't be stopped now.
	It's bad boy.
	I mean, I was going to join him, but you threw it off or just lose.
	I'm too white.
	It's okay.
	I'm just saying, you get right to, so I know you're too white.
	I can't rap or do hip-hop.
	So I'm still adjusting a couple things here, guys, on our end.
	So, any other hot takes with anything from you?
	Oh, I was just saying, because you looked me out.
	No, go ahead.
	You sure?
	Honestly, I feel like stop making dating so complicated.
	I feel like a lot of people set expectations that they know certain people are not going to reach.
	Like when you're just now meeting, like, just meeting someone, you can't expect them to be, you know, all for you or put all their time and their energy into you.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, I feel like people need to just go with the flow, allow things to naturally just happen.
	Disagree.
	Why?
	I disagree, my dear.
	I'm listening.
	Okay, so you're saying that when you're first meeting somebody, essentially, you should be okay with them having sex with other people.
	Even if you just met somebody.
	Okay, wait.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Actually, yes.
	No, yes, because I'm going to be honest with you.
	You casually meet someone out at a bar or a restaurant or whatever.
	I don't go to bars or clubs.
	Well, regardless, wherever you meet them.
	Sure.
	Are you literally expecting them to just no longer have sex with whoever they're having sex with at that time?
	There you go.
	What?
	Say it again.
	Sorry.
	I said, so when you meet someone and you plan on dating them or, you know, pursuing them in a romantic way, are you automatically assuming that because you just met them, that they are then going to cut off what they already have going on as far as whether it's a situation or you're insane?
	You're delusional for thinking about it.
	Well, like when they don't.
	The very first day you meet someone, you think they're going to just be like, I'm going to stop talking to you and having sex with them because I've just met such and such a thing.
	I'll explain.
	So in 2024, my position is absolutely, and it's unfortunate that I think it's somehow out of the norm to have an expectation when you're first meeting somebody.
	And assuming when you meet them, they tell, because I mean, okay.
	It used to be, oh, I've got a boyfriend, but now you could meet somebody and they're sleeping with three people and they're still going to claim single.
	So yeah, if I get her number and she tells me she's single, in my mind, I'm thinking there's no other dudes in the picture, at least sexually, hopefully, fingers crossed.
	It's still suboptimal if she's dating other men.
	But it's interesting that, again, in 2024, that is somehow crazy to not want to date a woman that's currently getting piped down by other men.
	Now, I'm not sure.
	Now, I think, but okay, but so my position is, is at least for my standards, and this is standards that I encourage any man.
	I don't care if you're a college guy that doesn't make any money or you're an average guy, you can still have the standard.
	You don't need to be some fucking super, you can be a normal guy, average guy, and have this standard for women.
	My standard is: if you're dating other men, I'm not interested.
	That, well, hold on, let me actually start this in reverse.
	If you're sleeping with other men, that's 100% unacceptable.
	That's the bare minimum standard men should have.
	Now, men, if you want to extend that a little further to if she's dating other men, it's a wrap with her.
	That's my standard.
	You might not want to take that as far as I do, but that's my standard.
	If you're dating other men, it's a wrap with you.
	Goodbye.
	Back to the streets you go.
	But I feel like dating is for you to have the opportunity to figure out who you want to be with.
	Like, stay intentional.
	Right.
	But I still feel like you shouldn't just meet someone and just be like, okay, I'm dating them and I'm only dating them and I'm not going to talk to anybody else and I'm not going to say you have sex with the person who's been with me.
	You want to be with me?
	That's how it's got to be.
	But Benson's not going to be a little bit more.
	If I go and I'll give a little leeway.
	Maybe you were.
	Hold on, let me finish.
	Sorry.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	What's your point?
	What happens if she's like the love of your life?
	So you're saying ugly women date one man at a time.
	Is that what you're saying?
	No, I'm saying, what if she's beautiful, the love of your life?
	And you literally see her and you're like, and she's fucking another dude.
	Disgusting.
	How would you do that?
	Hold on.
	Get the rocks.
	Yeah, get the rocks.
	Out you go.
	What if it's love at first sight?
	Wait, out you go.
	What if it's like love at first sight?
	Like movie magic.
	You have a meet cue, everything, it's magical, and you start texting, and then she's like, I just want to go on a date and see how it goes.
	You wouldn't tell me that.
	And she's fucking another dude.
	Are you focused?
	Are you fucking mad?
	She just met you, darling.
	Just give her a chance.
	She's lovely life.
	She's a sluzzer.
	Listen up.
	She's a fucking slutzer, mate.
	I don't want to.
	I ain't doing nothing like that.
	She can go back to Derbyshire.
	I don't fuck with no chicks that are fucking with other men.
	Do you understand?
	She can go back to fucking Ottawa.
	No fucking Liverpool.
	I don't do that.
	Idea.
	You would not be dating a lady from Liverpool.
	You have a lot more space for yourselves than that.
	What's wrong with Liverpool?
	Women like that need a soccer hoop again, right?
	What's that?
	So they're like, they go to critical matches and fucking each other up.
	So your point is, is that it's a movie moment.
	She's so beautiful.
	She gives your love a chance.
	Here, let me double down on my position.
	Let me double down on my position when it comes to dating women who are involved with other men.
	I don't care if she's way out of my league on any level, looks-wise.
	She could be a 10 out of 10.
	She could be Megan Fox in her prime.
	If she's sexually involved with another man, I want nothing to do with her.
	I don't want to sleep with her.
	I don't want to date with her.
	She's fucking another dude.
	Goodbye.
	Have a nice life.
	How would you know?
	Well, here's the thing, though, right?
	We got to get back to our earlier definitions of cheating now, don't we?
	I'm going to say.
	Now we're talking about cheating.
	We're not talking about cheating in relationships.
	It's different.
	You wanted to come in, go ahead.
	I think a just quick, like maybe miscommunication, not like just let's when he says, and tell me if I'm wrong, when he says that he wouldn't sleep with someone, when he wouldn't consider dating someone who's already sleeping with someone else, it sounds to me as though he's expecting someone, which I agree with your position.
	He's expecting someone to not be having casual sex with people.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So it's not even, it's beyond that, though.
	No, I know.
	It's even beyond that.
	You can't even tell anyone.
	I'm setting the parameter because if I think there's a separation between sleeping with people and dating people, and I think there's not a separation.
	Even if she was sleeping with other people, it probably would not even work out anyway if she doesn't.
	I want to jump in here too.
	So, as I mentioned earlier, I've been single for the past four years.
	Okay, over the course of four years, obviously there's been times where I've been talking to someone.
	I have never in my life been talking to two men at once.
	I don't understand that.
	Good.
	I don't understand that at all.
	Like, if you're actually busy, I only date for long term.
	So, why on earth would I put my time and energy into two separate men?
	Obviously, it has to be behind both of their backs because no respectable man would tolerate that.
	And then I'm starting the relationship off on a lie.
	I don't feel like that.
	I don't know if it's a lie.
	Can I honestly what you had to say?
	I feel like, like you said, you date for long term.
	Everybody dates for different reasons.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So I do agree with him when he says he's not looking to date someone that's, you know, dating other men or having sex with other men.
	I get that.
	But that means you then have to now find the right people to date.
	Like, if you're just every person you come across isn't going to be dating for the same reason.
	You can date for fun.
	I know.
	You say you don't do that.
	I just like a little bit lonely.
	Right, yeah, that's why it's a little bit different.
	You feel a little bit lonely and you want to have like, but you don't want to like you want someone to buy your dinner.
	I go about 50-50.
	Thank you very much.
	You're just dating some fun.
	Feminists.
	No, but what, you have something?
	Go ahead.
	Yeah.
	So I'll talk about someone, me and the guy I'm currently talking to.
	The same night that we had our date, I deleted Tinder because I didn't want to talk to nobody else.
	That's good.
	Cool.
	Look, if I go on a first date with you, I might give a girl leeway.
	I might, because I'm a nice guy, right?
	I might give her a little leeway if she was on a first date with another guy in recent history, whatever.
	Maybe that's acceptable.
	You know, but if you want to go on a second date with me and you're like dated, you have a date scheduled for Wednesday and you want to see me again this weekend.
	It has to be a wrap with that other dude.
	You want to see me again?
	It has to from after the first date.
	You want to see me again, has to be a wrap with other dudes.
	If there's other dudes in the picture, preferably, there's no dudes in the picture.
	You've been like lonely as fuck for three months before I came along.
	That's how it should be.
	That's how it should be.
	And I want to, and gentlemen, you should, you should operate from this standard.
	Don't let the degenerate hookup culture.
	I wasn't looking at you intentionally.
	You said a lot.
	Don't let the new normal of hookup culture dictate your standards.
	At minimum, you don't date or even sleep with women who are sleeping with other men.
	I don't care how hot she is, guys.
	If you're on a first date with her and she fucked a guy yesterday or fucks a guy between your first and second date, it's a rap.
	It's over.
	You don't pursue her.
	But why can't you date for fun?
	At the end of the day, I'm not saying you can't, but I'm saying.
	Are you going to get married at 25?
	Well, you could.
	No, but a lot of men are not told this.
	A lot of dudes are not told that you don't have to tolerate, and this is what you're going to encounter if any of you are on dating apps.
	You don't have to tolerate this sort of behavior from women.
	They're free to do it, but they ain't the type of girl.
	My strong, strong encouragement and recommendation is: these are not the type of women that you want to be getting in a relationship with.
	Imagine this is your future wife.
	Well, between our first and second date, I fucked another dude.
	No, bro.
	I ain't about that.
	Fuck it.
	But what about can the guy do it?
	Just sub-optimate.
	Yeah.
	Is the guy allowed to do it?
	Is the gun allowed to do it?
	The guy, what do you mean?
	Is he allowed to be dating other women?
	I don't think men should be promiscuous either.
	Okay, cool.
	I just wanted to make sure that I had to do it.
	Alicia Fayer and Hobby.
	I'll let you have that.
	I like how you can have that.
	Well, I didn't agree with it, but you can have it.
	Well, I think the best way, I mean, what's that?
	It's still worse when women are.
	Like, does it suck having to know you have to compete for a guy?
	Because there's a value-added perception.
	I feel like you always compasing.
	Okay.
	Not if he's dating a ton.
	I'm sorry.
	Sorry, Nevada.
	No, you're fine.
	Go ahead.
	I've already said my part.
	If you feel like there's a value factor for women, why do you not feel that way about men?
	Because women don't feel that way about men.
	Well, I mean, if we're so if you're going to go through dating data, and this is interesting, what you see is that body counts matter a lot to men.
	They don't seem to matter all that much to women.
	Some care, but not that many care.
	Right.
	So there seems to be some kind of value addition.
	So I would agree with you, meet you halfway and say they're morally both bad.
	It's just as bad morally for a man to be promiscuous as it is a woman.
	Right.
	But I think the effects on a man are far less than the effects on a woman.
	So I think it lowers her value far more than it lowers his value.
	But that bloody sucks, doesn't it?
	That's the well, that's the way it is.
	Well, yeah, it does, right?
	Life's not fair.
	We're not equal.
	Egalitarianism's a lie.
	I told you all this shit before, but I know I'll just bring it back.
	Right, but the most important thing is, it's like, so if you're going to tailor behavior, it seems like women have kind of this thing, this magic power, where if they say chaste, they basically get whatever they want for that chastity.
	Because men, they really can't.
	So it seems like you have this kind of gold, right, that you're born with.
	Just give it away.
	And it seems like it's a really poor decision because men don't have that.
	They don't have this gold that they can just give away.
	Whether they're chaste or unchaste, that seems to matter less to women than the opposite.
	So I'm just always like, why are you born with a gold bar and you just give it away?
	Because someone taking the gold bar feels really good.
	What?
	This is.
	Sorry, that's true.
	But I think, as far as even dating goes with just us at the table, a lot of us are saying that we view relationships as something that should be long-term.
	Right.
	But then there's a lot of you women that as well that are looking more for casual experiences, maybe casual sex, maybe just a first date for the fun of it.
	And there's not necessarily anything wrong with either.
	But at least when I state my own opinions, I am stating opinions for the long term.
	Right.
	And I personally think casual relationships, casual sex is a waste of time.
	Again, that's my personal opinion because I think people focus too much on short-term fun, short-term pleasure instead of long-term happiness and long-term fulfillment.
	Well, and it hurts you more than it is.
	It hurts you in the long run.
	Can I respond to that?
	So I am the type of female that before I got into, I'm sorry, before I got into creating content and doing porn, that I was the long-term relationship girl.
	So my first ever relationship was four years.
	That was my longest relationship.
	And after that, it was like each relationship was only lasting maybe like one, two years.
	And I just felt like I was wasting my time thinking that I'm doing.
	Do you want to ask why?
	Were they so short compared to the first one?
	I mean, a lot of guys were, they're cheaters.
	Like at that time, I was really young and I was, I deal with older men.
	So that was just a thing with me.
	So a lot of them felt like they could play with me.
	And you know what I'm saying?
	So I dealt with a lot of cheaters.
	I wasn't going for that.
	So I just felt like I was wasting my time dealing with, you know, this relationship, that relationship.
	And then once I got into doing content and doing porn, at first it was just me doing it solo.
	Then I started working with other people and I'm finding myself, okay, I'm doing it for work.
	I can just casually date because me personally, I'm not looking for anything long-term anymore.
	But you don't find this a waste of time?
	I mean, obviously, you're making money.
	I personally don't find anything that I'm doing now a waste of time because I'm just looking for a long-term partner is a waste of time to you.
	Now.
	That's my perspective now.
	The time that was what I was all for, but that's not what I want now.
	What I want now is just to casually date or just enjoy the time that I spend with whoever I spend that time with.
	That's just how I am now.
	I'm comfortable with that.
	Are you rich?
	No, I'm not rich.
	What's the exit plan?
	What exit plan?
	Well, if you're not rich, oh, you mean as far as what you're doing?
	There's a shelf life on this, right?
	Loose pussy energy donated $100.
	I'm going to run a business.
	Ryan McClure.
	I mean, I just started my business.
	If she's seeing/slash banging other dudes while you're dating them, it's a fucking rap.
	They will be forced to see Abdul, especially if they have eight bodies, they get extra rocks.
	Get the rocks.
	Abdul?
	Yeah.
	Get the rocks.
	Get the rocks.
	It's the limit.
	LP, that's bus.
	I always wonder on this question because, you know, many of the women who live promiscuous lifestyles that I talk to, I always ask the same question.
	What's the exit strategy if you're not rich?
	Some are, right?
	Like some of the chicks go on OnlyFans and they get like millions of dollars and then they blow it in three years off bullshit.
	But the thing is, is the exit strategy, it seems like it's a bad, bad exit strategy.
	So you would have to either A, get a sum of money, which you had so much money that you just didn't have to worry about it ever again, or B, it's probably going to be some kind of dependence on somebody at some point.
	Well, for me, I think so.
	I personally just started a business, and right now I'm getting a lot of support with that.
	So I think that that's my exit plan.
	You know what I mean?
	Like most businesses fail, right?
	Yeah, they do, but I don't see mine failing.
	You'll be the one.
	I'll be the one.
	And for me personally, my exit strategy is the stock market.
	I'm learning right now through honey drip and, you know, doing these are super high-risk plans, by the way.
	Yeah, but so what?
	Like high-risk strategies.
	I can also always go, hold on, let me finish talking.
	I can also go back to nursing at any day.
	My license is still active.
	At any day, when I'm done, I could just cut it.
	And nobody's going to know.
	So it's just a point of my goal, though, to be rich is to be in the stock market and, you know, keep doing it.
	That's the ultimate goal for me.
	So if I could ask you, because you stated before that you do your sex work as almost like a coping mechanism based on what you say that, but or based on things you've dealt with with your life, you just enjoy doing that.
	I do it because it's art.
	Like the way that my name is The Gobbler.
	I do it because I feel like I can, you know, basically teach people some things.
	So I do it for art form.
	Related to gobbling.
	Yes, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Andrew, you do not want to know.
	Absolutely.
	So it's not because of a coping mechanism.
	At first, I came out because I feel like I'm great at it.
	Like so good.
	Pet gobbling.
	So, you know, I feel like, you know, every time one of my videos go, it go viral or whatever.
	So I just feel like you can't.
	You got to teach the world.
	You know, when men come to their form at the end of it, it relieves stress.
	You know what I'm saying?
	You can't, you know.
	I have a question.
	Not if you want, but I bring down the stress of the world.
	I got a question for you and for all of you.
	So a lot of people, you know, like porn can be an art, kind of, sort of.
	What I do is it is an art.
	But my question, you know how with you know artistes, there are magnum opus, the masterpiece, right?
	Do you guys have, like, do you have a video of you gobbling that is just like your magnum opus?
	Yeah.
	Top tier.
	Yeah.
	You have a magnum opus of gobbling?
	Yes.
	Absolutely.
	It's probably a masterpiece that you look back and you're like, God damn.
	Actually, when I look at it, I'll be like, dang, who is that?
	You know?
	Yeah.
	You don't even remember who it was?
	No, I remember when I look at myself, the whole face, everything, the structure is different.
	I said, damn.
	You know, how did that do that?
	But yeah.
	Do you have a magnum opus?
	I have a couple.
	You got a couple without 2P.
	She got it.
	What's your name again?
	2P's fine.
	2P?
	2P princess.
	Two chains.
	She's two pussies.
	Yeah, 2Pussy Princess.
	Okay, I be facetious.
	I didn't really think it was.
	That's my tag, Two Pussy Princess.
	I was told it wasn't allowed.
	What is the 2P princess?
	I have much.
	She's adorable.
	What is the Two Pussy Princess Magnum Opus?
	I have a masterpiece.
	I haven't done it yet, so I'm going to bucket it.
	You know, like Leonardo da Vinci.
	Oh, yeah, no.
	Don't you worry.
	I've got it planned.
	Is it okay?
	Oh, it's still in the works.
	Oh, yeah, because it has a few people.
	That's all I need to say.
	I got some chat.
	Let's get back to actually, we need to get back through.
	We have a lot of notes from you guys, so I'm going to try to blast through all of them.
	Going back to you, Raven, or what was it?
	Crow.
	Crow.
	Oh, no.
	It's okay.
	It's a raven.
	I just have Wendingo.
	So, so that's your username online.
	So Wendigo is my username on Instagram.
	What is a Wendigo?
	You know, like Cryptids?
	It's a Bigfoot from Alaska, basically.
	It's not Bigfoot, but like it follows the cryptid pattern.
	So I have tattoos of cryptids.
	Like, I don't know.
	Cryptids?
	Yeah.
	So there's like chupacabra.
	Is that it?
	Yeah, that's like a guts of cryptid.
	What's a cryptid?
	It is like make-believe.
	Like make-believe animals.
	Whoa, Andrew, you don't believe in Bigfoot?
	No.
	Okay.
	I mean, I don't believe in aliens.
	No aliens, no Bigfoot, none of that bullshit.
	I don't care.
	So you said in your notes here, Crow, that you had sex with someone in front of his family?
	Yeah, I did.
	And they were a cult.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	What?
	Yeah.
	So this was back after I moved back.
	Did the tarot cards tell you to do it?
	No, Jesus.
	No, there was no Jesus where I was.
	So this was back when I recently moved back to South Dakota.
	I was meeting this guy, and the first date went perfect.
	The first date went fine.
	I was like, man, this seems like a really good guy.
	Then we went on a few more dates.
	After the fourth date, he said, my mom wants to meet you.
	I thought it was a little bit.
	I'm so glad I'm not dating, donated $100.
	Beauty is subjective.
	800 CE.
	Blacklace standing above a goxtad with a horned helmet on the horizon might have made it into the carvings of the ruins.
	It's 2024.
	We understand heart disease now.
	Lost, but okay.
	Wanka.
	I don't get it.
	You guys can respond, by the way, if you want.
	All right, thank you for the TTS.
	So after those four or five dates, he wanted me to meet his mom, and I was like, okay, so it was this nice closed-off area.
	It was on a farmland because South Dakota has a lot of farmland.
	And the mom and dad seemed really normal, really nice.
	And then I also met his grandparents the same day.
	It's like a Hills Have Eyes situation.
	It was honestly really good.
	It wasn't the Rob Zombie one.
	The Devil's Reject?
	No, one of his first horrors.
	It was like House of a Thousand Corpses.
	Yeah, but the devil's rejects the thing's the second one.
	Okay.
	So, like, their house was like, it was a nice house.
	I mean, it was a really nice house.
	And then they had some farmland too, but it was out in the middle of nowhere.
	It was probably like two hours from where I lived.
	Oh, God.
	But when I got there, like I said, the mom was nice.
	The dad was nice.
	The grandparents were nice.
	They looked they weren't pretty normal.
	But when I sat down to dinner, they said something to me.
	They said, Now, I hope you really like this dinner because we really have something planned later, and I hope you're okay with it.
	And I'm like, and I was, I was like, You're spooking the gobbler over here.
	No, I was, I was, I was a little bit scared.
	So I'm like, okay.
	He reassured, like, I asked him, I was like, what does this mean?
	He's like, don't worry about it.
	It's just a thing that happens when my parents like somebody.
	And I was like, okay.
	So I thought I was like, I decided to stay around during dinner and then maybe make a fake scene.
	Be like, okay, I want to go home.
	I'm not feeling good.
	Do you know that one movie?
	I don't remember what the movie is called, but it's a movie where the two people get married and then they have to be honest.
	Oh, then they kill everybody.
	Yes.
	That's exactly what I'm saying.
	How did you spend the time I had?
	How did you instantly know what the movie was?
	She's like, Do you know the movie where the two people get married and you instantly were like, when they kill everybody?
	Because I was just thinking, oh my god, this sounds like that movie.
	When they sit down and like they get married and go ahead then, like hide and seek the what Hide And Seek, that's the movie.
	Chucky's The Bride like I'm gonna go ahead.
	So um, after dinner and everything um, they wanted to play a couple games and that's exactly where I thought the movie from and it started to really freak me out.
	So I pulled him aside and I said, hey, I'm not feeling comfortable, I want to go home.
	And then the mom heard me around the corner and she's like, hey, come here, I want to talk to you about something.
	And she's, and she.
	I came over and she said, well, we're a pretty closed family and if you want to keep being in the family, we have to watch.
	Now that's some demonic stuff, what the fuck?
	Uh oh no no no no, it's like, and she's like and, and that's what she said.
	And I was shocked.
	For at least five, five minutes I stood there.
	I was like what is going on?
	This is not what I signed up for.
	Clearly, I only wanted dinner.
	And then I had a talk with him about and he said, yeah, I was kind of afraid to tell you about this.
	And I was like about the cult gangbang at his house.
	Yeah, I can see how you wouldn't want to open with first day.
	By the way, this was the fourth.
	The fourth one of the two that's so strong coming in strong.
	I know I like, I know okay, keep going, continue yeah.
	So um, the games were over and she, the mom, called me over again and she said hey um, you have to do this now or you can never see my, my son again.
	And I felt very under pressure.
	I was like okay, this guy is really, really nice.
	Do I do it or do I go home and never see him again, because it's this time I was going through the loss of my ex-fiancé.
	So I was like man, like I'm never gonna find love again.
	So at that moment I thought this was the best case scenario.
	And then, after the whole thing was done, instant regret and I told him, your family's weird, I'm going home.
	It was in their basement, wait.
	So you went, Wait a minute, wait.
	So you went through with it and then you told him that your family's weird.
	I want to go home.
	Oh, no, I thought it was weird entirely.
	But to be honest, I was kind of scared they were going to hurt me.
	I was going to say that when you said either do it or go home, I was going to say out loud, they might have not let you go.
	Honestly, that's what I'm saying.
	I didn't know they were a cult.
	Tell people that.
	So when I was being escorted in the basement, I was being escorted in the basement.
	It wasn't like a woeful thing.
	I was walking down.
	I was being escorted.
	And in this basement, it wasn't like satanic stuff.
	I didn't see any of that.
	I didn't see a statue of a fet on the wall or nothing or anything like that.
	But the setup was weird.
	It was again, that other movie, Midsummer.
	You know that movie?
	The fuck?
	It was like that.
	I swear, it was like that.
	Like a torture chamber?
	Not like that.
	It's like the movie Get Out Sex.
	Okay, can you, let's give a couple descriptives here.
	So, okay, you go down into the basement.
	you get this word into the basement i don't know if you were leading up to this but like were you leading up to it Yeah.
	Okay.
	I'll let you go to the last question.
	I was being escorted into the bait.
	And this is the part where I said, either I go home or I might die tonight.
	So I was being escorted into the basement.
	I saw the mom lock and chain the door.
	I'm like, oh boy.
	What?
	What the fuck?
	I was terrified.
	And then the grandfather, because the grandparents were there too, and the parents.
	The whole family.
	The whole family.
	Because this was an only child.
	He was the only child.
	The grandfather was at the top of the stairs, just sitting there guarding.
	And the grandfather wasn't like.
	Is this real?
	No, this was terrifying.
	This was the scariest thing I ever encountered.
	Go ahead, continue with your story.
	But he was standing at the door.
	And that's at that moment.
	I was like, okay, I have to do it to get out of here.
	Because I feared that if I didn't, I would never be able to leave the house ever again.
	Oh, my God.
	Wait, so okay, hold on.
	I've got some questions here.
	Okay, so you get down.
	We don't need details of the actual act that occurred.
	But how many people were, besides you and your boyfriend or whatever, were in there with you?
	So the grandfather, the grandmother, the mom, and the dad.
	So four people.
	Four people.
	Okay.
	And were they speaking during the act?
	No, no.
	Just but they watched.
	They watched.
	So you know, like in Roman times, kind of like that would kind of happen way back when.
	Well, I know, like, with kings, I thought there was this thing with like monarchs.
	With kings and queens.
	With like monarchs, they would.
	I don't know.
	I watched the tutors.
	So maybe like the first time having sex, they had to whip, like kings, they had to like his to make sure that the chase was intact, right?
	To make sure that she was.
	Never heard of that.
	No, I don't know if it's even that.
	They just had to make sure that it was consummated.
	Yeah, they had to make sure the marriage was consummated.
	That's kind of similarly what it was.
	I know.
	Trust me, I know.
	And Meghan.
	Wait, so then when does it end?
	And then you guys go and like watch like a blockbuster movie or something?
	So after it ended, he unchained the door.
	Unchains the door.
	Unchained the door.
	That was crazy.
	Like I said, that's the part where I said it's either do or die at this point.
	So I go upstairs and I let them know and I say, hey, I'm kind of tired.
	I'm going to go home.
	I'll talk to you in the morning.
	Soon as I got home, I blocked them on everything.
	I even made new social media at that point because I wanted, I didn't tell this person where I lived.
	And thank God I didn't tell them where I am.
	And I got rid of everything.
	I'm two hours away from the person, so I don't care.
	Whoever, if someone is with this person now, I hope they're safe.
	That's all I can say.
	I'm sorry that happened to you.
	Yeah, it's, you know, it doesn't bug me much anymore because as scary as that was, I'm alive.
	Yeah.
	I'm alive.
	Were you doing all the witchcraft and stuff then, too?
	No.
	No?
	That came later?
	Yeah.
	Well, that's a first for the whatever podcast.
	I just don't want to family voyeuristic sexual encounter.
	That is peculiar, and probably some crimes were committed.
	Sounds like men.
	Perhaps, maybe.
	I don't know.
	I mean, like, I don't know if it really would be because I still went through with it.
	And I never, and I never said out loud that I don't want to do this.
	That's coercion.
	Yeah, that's the issue.
	Anyways, well, sorry to hear you.
	That sounds like a pretty bad, very bad, extremely bad thing.
	So sorry to hear you went through that.
	That's where my trust is just game.
	Yeah.
	Was he white?
	I think that's where it started.
	That's why she doesn't do it.
	That's why she doesn't do this.
	Okay.
	Exactly.
	Understandable people are doing it.
	Yeah, patients.
	All right.
	Okay.
	You also said the cheating and divorce rates are so high.
	Honestly, it's mostly because half of us are bored.
	So have you cheated before?
	No.
	But you said, you said us.
	Half of us are bored.
	Us, I tend to think that means including.
	Oh, no, no.
	I didn't mean to include you.
	Oh, so you think just like people are cheating and divorcing because of boredom?
	I don't disagree with you, but that's what your position was.
	So I came to that conclusion because I've noticed a lot of people.
	Now, obviously, I didn't go through with this kind of thing.
	So I was with my most recent ex-partner.
	We were in an open relationship.
	And I've had men come to me and they wanted to cheat on their spouse with me.
	And I always asked them why.
	I was like, do you not love her?
	Do you not want to be with her anymore?
	Majority of them said, I still love her.
	I'm just bored.
	It's like the Pina Colada song.
	And when, and clearly.
	How is that like the Pina Colada song?
	Like Pina Colada's getting caught in the rain.
	She writes because she's bored of her husband and they end up being the escape.
	That's it.
	Sorry.
	It's like the Pina Colada song.
	You've never heard that.
	There's a couple.
	It's not what I associate with that song.
	Oh, no, because she's trying to cheat on her husband and he's trying to cheat on his wife.
	And they end up actually being this set.
	Am I?
	Do I really have to Google the lyrics?
	No, it's actually, literally, it is.
	So she writes into a paper being like, I'm like, I'm looking for this man.
	He needs to be like this.
	And he replies, being like, I'm looking for this woman.
	She needs to be this.
	Yeah, she is right.
	It's about kind of infidelity.
	He was trying to hire a prostitute and she's a bloody wife.
	It brings a whole new meaning to that song.
	I'm so sorry if I ruined it for you.
	Yeah, it's actually like Pina Coladas for you.
	A girl with two vaginas wants.
	That's really like Guardians of the Galaxy.
	We have a question here from GG.
	What are everyone's opinions on sleeping with other people during a break?
	Separation with a long-term girlfriend, boyfriend, knowing you'll get back together, cool or no, asking for a friend.
	Yo, there are no breaks or separations.
	It's all gas, no breaks.
	Otherwise, I don't think guarantees are executed to cheat.
	Just watch friends you want to break up to be fair though, Ross and whatever the fuck her name was.
	Rachel.
	Rachel were definitely on a break.
	They were on a break.
	I give Ross a pass.
	I'm shocked you're on Team Ross with that one.
	Yeah, that doesn't seem like a white guy, average one.
	She ended it.
	She ended it.
	They weren't on a break.
	He was like, okay, well, we're done.
	I'm going to have a little afternoon or well, midnight delight with another lady.
	Okay.
	Wait, so the question is, though, for the whole panel, opinions on sleeping with other people during a break separation with a long-term girlfriend and both knowing oh, knowing you'll get back together.
	Oh, cool or no?
	Asking for a friend.
	If you'll know you'll get back together, right?
	Knowing you'll get back together.
	I think you probably shouldn't.
	I don't think you should.
	No, is that like the whole past movie?
	No, I don't think you should.
	Yeah, no.
	Everyone else?
	That's no point.
	Yeah, just a social.
	If you know you're getting back together, you're basically just asking for permission to cheat at that point.
	Yeah, true.
	Hey, is it cool with you that I pretend we're broken up just so I can sleep with another person and then get back with you?
	Because I value you.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I think if you want, like long time as well, like if you're going to marry them, that's a bit different.
	Why?
	You shouldn't break up.
	Okay.
	Well, moving on, getting to my notes on DeGobbler.
	Yeah, you describe yourself as liberal politically, correct?
	I'm not.
	Are you on me?
	Are you sure?
	Did I say that?
	I'm pretty sure you said that.
	I think you said liberal.
	I'm not in your politics.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Oh, wait.
	So, Nurse Trader in the Day, goaded at night.
	And I think this is on your Instagram.
	Mouth from the Gods.
	That's the truth.
	That's what you put on.
	Everybody is.
	we talked we talked about the gobbling so um do you do oh wait we have wait do i do i want to come back to this do you okay i think we have some tweets from you Sure.
	We got some tweets.
	I do a lot of tweeting.
	Can you get degobblers tweets?
	What?
	Because my Twitter has...
	No, no, we're not going to go to your...
	Oh, oh, oh, the word.
	Worded tweets.
	Specific tweets, Nick.
	Huh?
	I just enjoyed him.
	I'm like, you're right.
	Wait, we might not have tweets from.
	Oh, that's from Mystic Squid.
	Yes, we got tweets from you.
	Okay.
	Well, okay, sorry, I got it mixed up.
	You do paid meetups.
	Is that correct?
	Did you do paid meetups?
	Yeah, I would if it's like an NFL play or if they hit me up and they say, hey, I got some money, blah, blah, blah.
	I'm going to get over there.
	I think that's where I saw one tweet where you made it.
	If somebody rich was to hit me up and say, hey, I got some cash for you, I'm going to say, what's up?
	So what is the exchange there?
	Like, how much would it cost for a goblin?
	Well, I'm not asking for that.
	That is my personal finances.
	I'm going to keep it to myself.
	Okay.
	If you would like to know personally for real, DM.
	Okay, DMs.
	Is it four figures minimum or four figures?
	Okay, all right.
	I'm just curious, you know?
	Maybe there's some guys.
	Trust me, the people with regular pockets, they don't, they can't, they will.
	They can't afford it.
	Yeah, they'd be mad when I told them.
	They're like, I should slap that motherfucker, you know.
	No, they shouldn't slap you.
	Not me.
	She's the person who pays you.
	All right, I'll read.
	By the way, if there's any curse words or any potentially bad words, the TTS won't read it.
	I'll read it now.
	Appalachian P annihilator.
	Thank you, man.
	I would whip Alexis Madison.
	What the fuck, bro?
	Blank like hibachi.
	Redhead, it's not the double V that makes up you a 3 of 10.
	Oh my God.
	I'm not going to read that.
	If you un okay, come on, bro.
	How are you going to?
	On the right, you catch a shark in those fishnets.
	What?
	I don't know.
	Oh, my God.
	Appalachian annihilator.
	All right, there you go.
	Sorry, the TTS will not trigger if there's any vulgarity or any sort of Jesus Christ.
	Correct sentences, we'll be able to understand you guys.
	There you go.
	I think we're talking about paid meetups, but we covered that.
	So you're a nurse, though.
	Do you have any concerns about your patients seeing you in that light?
	What do you mean?
	Like, let's say one of your, because you're a nurse, right?
	One of your patients.
	Wait, do you work in like a.
	Like I said, I'm Clark Clint when I go to work.
	They don't, they're not going to know me.
	I have a, I'm ball-headed.
	I wear glasses.
	I don't have, like, when I go to work, I'm literally, they're not going to know me.
	I work with you.
	What if it's like your number one fan?
	It's your number, your elderly fan.
	That's my number one fan.
	He's going to look at you and be like, the gobbler.
	And I'm going to say, what's going on?
	Oh, it's Tracy.
	What are your thoughts on Middle Seat's basement story?
	Your face expression when you asked if she got into witchcraft after the incident made me curious about your brain.
	It's surprising to me that somebody who happens to be a witch also happened to run into a cult that happened to have group sex in the basement, right?
	I'm just saying these are a lot of happenstances of coincidences.
	That's all.
	Well, that happened before me becoming a witch.
	But to be honest, after that incident, I really wasn't the same anymore.
	I mean, it scared me.
	It was demonic.
	It was, it scared me.
	It was really satanic.
	Yeah.
	And I honestly, I haven't been the same since.
	I feel like I lead someone to light magic.
	I also don't really like your approach on almost implying, almost implying that it was like a punishment for her practicing witchcraft.
	Yeah, there are punishments for practicing witchcraft.
	You agree, right?
	But just because something terrible happens to someone, it doesn't mean I didn't say it did, but you agree with me that there are punishments for people practicing witchcraft, right?
	And there absolutely is.
	I'm not going to.
	You agree, right?
	Yes, I agree.
	Well, then I don't know what you're complaining about.
	Okay, I just, I don't know.
	I don't think he's justifying.
	No, I'm not saying that.
	No, I didn't say he did.
	It just, the guy asked me what was going on in my mind.
	I think it was a little messed up.
	So he asked me what's going on in my mind.
	So I verbalized what's going on in my mind.
	It's very odd that all this cult activity is all going on around a single person.
	Just seems like maybe there's interconnections.
	That's all I'm saying.
	Okay.
	There very well could have been.
	Yeah.
	So, Tracy, that's reasonable, right?
	In the chat?
	I guess I would say good to see you in the chat, Tracy.
	That just rubbed me the wrong way a little bit.
	Thank you, Tracy.
	That was very nice.
	But I understand.
	Tracy, you didn't send a DM though, Tracy.
	You said you wanted to come on the show last on Sunday.
	You guys shoot us a DM and we'll get you on the show, Tracy.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you so much for your patronage and support.
	The gobbler, your nurse.
	One of your, you know, it's possible.
	One of your patients.
	Elderly.
	Elderly patients was on your Twitter, like, and she saw, he saw some gobbling.
	Okay.
	Then what?
	What is the question?
	So do you have any concerns, you know, because I feel like.
	I'm an independent contractor.
	So.
	But I feel like when it comes to nurses, doctors, lawyers, politicians, even that's maybe politicians might be questionable.
	You want a certain level of decorum from your healthcare practitioners.
	But that's why I told you in the beginning why I do.
	Well, right now, Tracy on Tilt donated $100.
	If something like this happened, then wouldn't you find God instead of going into witchcraft?
	Yeah, that's find the light instead of going into darkness.
	Can't go on.
	Fiancé didn't give his permission.
	Well, Tracy, I mean, that's like what's in my head, right?
	Well, no, and they're absolute, the Tracy on Tracy on Tilt.
	They're absolutely right.
	But from my point of view, like I said, it was the scariest thing I ever encountered in my life.
	Yeah.
	Do I think that I can go back to reading the Bible and not doing witchcraft anymore?
	Absolutely.
	Have I thought about that in the past?
	Absolutely.
	It's just.
	So how do I convince you?
	What stuff?
	So how do I convince you to do that?
	I'm not talking to you, man.
	But isn't it like one of those issues where I couldn't also just completely have pushed her away from God completely?
	Because being put in that situation, I get God tests people, but that's a test and a half, isn't it, really?
	But she believes in free will.
	If we're going to go on that kind of talk real quick, I mean, God was merciless.
	Yeah, see, that's, oh, okay.
	Well, here, let's continue on.
	Let's not linger too long on it.
	So go ahead.
	About the nurse.
	The guy get back to the gobbling.
	No, she's not.
	I was kidding.
	No, but you were asking about the elderly.
	How would I feel?
	You want to know, like, because if he sees me and he says, hey, I seen your work, I'd be like, okay, thanks.
	But I will keep it, you know, I can't, I'm not going to go into detail while I'm at work.
	Yeah, no, of course.
	Of course, I'm sure.
	Like, I'm just going to say, oh, thank you.
	But then I probably would never go back to that facility because now somebody in that facility knows who I am.
	And they can, you know, yeah, it's very.
	So I would just go to a different one.
	That's what an independent contractor does.
	They go to different facilities and they're not underneath nobody but yourself.
	Is there anything like, because I know in certain fields of work, like if you're in education, especially education with children or like even police officers, if I've heard stories of when, you know, the because the image of the department or like they'll get fired.
	Is there something like that?
	Like, is that paperwork?
	That's why I said in policy, if I was to go to a facility, their policy is if you are part of their establishment, you can't do online.
	Like certain stuff you can't even say online.
	You can't even take a picture in the facility and post it online type stuff.
	So, you know, it's like if I was to be found out, I'll just go somewhere else because now I'm found out.
	You said also, shifting gears, apps, one time you got kidnapped by a jeweler that was high on Coke.
	Yeah, he made this for me right here.
	Oh, no.
	But yeah.
	Don't take up on him.
	So, yeah.
	At first, because we've.
	I swear this has got to be satire.
	I mean, so basically what happened was we've seen each other a few times before, and it was never like that.
	I should have been able to see the signs that he was like, he uses those kind of hard drugs.
	But it was very clear.
	Was there speed talking going on?
	Yeah, it was speed talking.
	A little bit, erectile dysfunction, stuff like that.
	People the size of the desk are.
	Yeah, so stuff like that.
	So then this time he comes and picks me up from work.
	And first he calls me.
	He's like, hey, I got some money for you.
	Come see me on your lunch break.
	But I know like when I go drive with him, he always drives for a long time.
	But I told him, I'm like, we just have to stop right here, you know.
	Stay right here.
	No, he still pulls out, starts driving around.
	I'm like, you really have to get me back because I have to finish my med pass.
	I can't be in a car with you, blah, blah, blah.
	At this time, there's no Coke present or anything like that.
	It's just, you know, he's acting a little bit sporadic.
	He gave me half the money at that time.
	And he was like, I'm going to wait out here.
	And then when you come out of work, because it was five and then I got off at 7:30, he was like, I'm going to come out.
	You come out and come with me.
	So I went back in.
	Mind you, I had my Bluetooth in.
	He could hear my whole conversation.
	He could hear me passing.
	He heard me doing my, you know, the turnover, my nursing turnover.
	He heard everything.
	So he knew that I actually was at a nursing job working.
	When I get back out inside the car, his pants is like halfway down by his knees or whatever.
	He has Coke sprinkled down his chest and his hairs, Coke in his little hairs there.
	It's like Coke in the hand, you know, where you open the door at?
	It's a bag of Coke, like this big, guys.
	Oh, I thought somebody was talking.
	It's like a bag of Coke.
	And then he had a gun in the middle holster.
	Literally.
	So now, oh, I forgot to tell y'all.
	I had my car when I got off.
	I had my car and I parked it in the hotel parking lot and then got in his car with him.
	So I didn't see this stuff before.
	And my car is at a hotel parking lot.
	So now the whole time we're driving in an area that's heavily were police at.
	He's doing sporadic U-turns in the middle of the street.
	He's telling me, like, oh, you're trying to set me up.
	Like, he's to the point where he thinks that guys are following us.
	He picked me up from guys' house.
	He's in, I guess, a Coke-induced rage movement.
	Yes, yes.
	And he's like, I heard it.
	You were on the phone.
	I heard you sucking dick in the background.
	I mean, sorry.
	I heard you doing stuff.
	I heard you doing stuff in the background.
	I said, What are you talking about?
	You heard everything.
	There's no way.
	There's no way that that's what you heard.
	So then he was like, Well, just show me your video.
	So now after that part left, he remember, y'all, he has the gun and he's trying to get me to do that kind of stuff with him.
	His pants is down.
	He's driving around and stuff.
	And he's trying to get me to do this stuff.
	So this whole time, I had my phone on my GPS to where my car is.
	We're only seven minutes away from my car the whole time.
	He's just going around and around and stuff like this.
	And I'm like, you know what?
	I keep telling him because we've been in the car for about two hours at this time.
	I said, I just want to get out the car.
	Just let me out.
	You know, please.
	It's been enough.
	You know, blah, blah, blah.
	Finally, I've seen the police.
	We're like, we're getting close.
	I've seen the police.
	I told him he was about to turn again.
	I said, if you do not turn, I'm about to jump out in the middle of the street.
	You're going to have more problems.
	You don't have no pants on.
	You have a gun.
	You have a coat.
	You're going to get in trouble.
	So if you do not let me out, you're about to get in trouble.
	I'm about to jump out.
	And instead of him turning, he went back over and went to my car.
	And then, like, as soon as we started, he started slowing down.
	I opened up the car and like jumped out while the car was still going.
	He didn't even stop.
	He kept going.
	So I had to kind of like jump out of a moving car or whatever.
	But hey, but that's part of it.
	Yeah.
	But it's just crazy to me because I've seen him so many times before.
	So that was not expected at that time.
	You know, okay.
	That's crazy.
	More notes here.
	I'm going to try to get through.
	I'm going to get through everybody's.
	So you also, and I think we actually already talked about this a little bit.
	You said you'd like to speak on the expectations of dating while doing porn.
	Although I think we maybe already had a back and forth on that, unless there was anything extra that you wanted to talk about.
	The only thing is, most people expect that they think that we're out here looking for that kind of stuff.
	You know, we already, relationships and stuff, like they already know how people think of us.
	We get told about this every single day.
	We get told, you know, we're not this, we're worthless, we're this, blah, blah, blah.
	We get all this kind of stuff every single day.
	So it's not the fact that we're out here looking.
	You don't have to keep bashing it in our heads.
	Like, don't date on porn.
	Don't know that.
	Don't do that because y'all do it all day long.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, it's the truth, though.
	We hear it all day.
	So it's like, we, us, we're not looking for that.
	We're chilling.
	Maybe she is, but you know, nine times out of ten, if you're actually performing and you're doing this, we're not really running to try to look for relationships.
	It's more so people coming to us begging us to be in relationships with them.
	You know, I just don't doubt that.
	I don't doubt that there's a lot of guys that perhaps the guys who follow you on OnlyFans or just, you know, social media.
	Yeah, they'd probably be would be happy to date you and be in relationships with you.
	I mean, that's just the point.
	You know, everybody's not the same.
	Some people might find interest in one thing, and you, of course, find it disgusting.
	They don't, though.
	You know?
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	I just think, you know, for a guy who's maybe young, getting into the dating game, or a guy who doesn't realize he can have standards or somebody who it hasn't occurred to him that he can, because a lot of guys, you know, I think a lot of guys actually struggle when it comes to dating and they're so desperate to get into a relationship that they will accept suboptimal arrangements and stuff.
	Morgan Jackson donated $100.
	You don't want a husband, but you want to smoke the meat of crackheads for money.
	Make it make sense, please.
	Never said, I didn't, I never knew he was a crackhead until I stopped talking to him.
	So obviously, I don't want to suck crackheads because I stopped talking to him when I had to jump out the car.
	So that's the sense it makes.
	Is there a difference?
	Like this crackhead penis crack, crackheads and cokeheads is different.
	It's two different things.
	Like, let's be serious.
	Crackheads are in the hood, literally on the corner of the street, you know, like crackheads.
	Cokeheads.
	Because let's be serious.
	There's a lot of people in the industry who do Coke.
	So it's a lot of people who, you know, you might laugh and stuff, but a lot of people who were at the Grammys do Coke.
	A lot of people who were at, you know, the awards, they all do Coke.
	It's a drug for people who are rich.
	It's a social.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So I don't do it.
	No, that's not my cup of tea.
	But Coke and crack, like Whitney said, it's two different things.
	Which ones did she do?
	She did both.
	She did both.
	She did.
	She was cracking.
	I don't know.
	I know she said it.
	Crack is crack.
	That's what she said.
	You also said my general thoughts is everyone makes dating so complex, you should just go for whomever into the same thing you're into.
	Yes.
	Rather it be traditional or modern.
	Me and myself, I prefer the lifestyle, the lifestyle, or a stag.
	You want the guy to be a stag?
	Yeah, he could be a stag or a cuck.
	I mean, most of y'all call it a cuck.
	So I'll just say cuck because.
	Wait, stag and cuck are interchangeable?
	I thought they're different.
	They kind of are.
	I mean, some guys like with being a cuck getting degraded.
	Stags don't like being degraded.
	They more so feel like a power type of dynamic from it.
	So a stag more so don't it's not like but they both enjoy watching their partner other people.
	And moving on over to Miss Exquisite.
	Exquisite.
	You stated in your messages to us that you considered yourself moderate and traditional, correct?
	Yes.
	And so you no, no, no, not moderate.
	Are you sure you got that right?
	Yeah, you said moderate and traditional.
	And I'm focusing in here on the traditional.
	So you said you're traditional.
	No, I don't think you said it.
	You said, I appreciate it.
	You said I was moderate on all stands.
	Let me pop Miss Exquisite.
	Let me just pull it up.
	Pull it up.
	Pull it up first.
	So, okay.
	So in our casting questionnaire, we ask, do you consider yourself feminist?
	And you state, or no, this was for number five.
	We asked your political leanings.
	You said you were moderate and traditional.
	No.
	You're from Virginia.
	You said you were traditional.
	Maybe I did that, but I definitely didn't mean to put traditional.
	I definitely mean to put moderate.
	Totally derailed.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	So you're not traditional.
	No, okay.
	No.
	There goes hours of reasoning.
	I'm sorry.
	I definitely write it.
	You did write it.
	Okay, you did write it because my fault.
	It's fine.
	It's fine.
	I don't know if you meant it, but now you know where I'm going with this, so you're walking back.
	No, no, no.
	I really didn't mean to just put moderate because I do have, you know, times where I feel like I can be traditional, but at the same time, I'm open to new ideas and new ways of going about things.
	Oh, okay.
	So I said I'm moderate.
	So in some ways, you're traditional.
	Yeah, in some ways I'm traditional.
	In some ways, I'm, you know.
	What ways are the traditional ways?
	It depends on what we're talking about.
	What?
	Well, I was talking about dating.
	Because I was talking about dating.
	Yeah.
	Because I thought that's how the questionnaire was kind of lined up.
	So I thought we were talking about dating.
	Oh, so you're dating, you're traditional.
	No, dating, I'm moderate.
	Like, I have, I can go traditional ways about dating, but in other ways, I don't know.
	So generally, you're moderate, but there are some things that you are traditional about when it comes to dating.
	Right.
	So what are those?
	So, like, you know, courting.
	I feel like men should court women.
	Like, especially if, you know, you approach the woman, you're pursuing her.
	I feel like men should court their women, take them on dates, open the door for them, and, you know, do things like that.
	Chivalry.
	Chivalry.
	What I don't think, as far as traditional, is the whole like people date to immediately marry.
	I don't feel like that should be the thing.
	I feel like you should take your time when it comes to dating, especially because, you know, you can know somebody for five years, 10 years, 15 years.
	You still don't know them.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So I feel like a lot of people.
	You think you should sleep with someone before you marry them?
	Yeah.
	I do.
	Because who wants to marry somebody?
	You don't know if the sex is going to be good.
	Well, I mean, that's something which can become good.
	It could, but I feel like if you realize the flaws of where it already is messed up, you could kind of determine whether or not you want to continue to deal with that person sexually.
	I don't know.
	It's different for everybody, but me personally, if I feel like you can't give oral good now, I don't think I'm going to be able to teach you.
	It's just something.
	Wouldn't be the experience of the person who's marrying the other person, they would be equally yoked in that experience.
	No, not really.
	It depends.
	Well, I mean, if they're both virgins, they're equally yoked.
	Well, yeah, if they're both virgins, you didn't say that.
	Yeah, but it's implied because if you're saying, should people get sex before have sex before they get married?
	There's an implication there that they're not having sex, right?
	So then the question, the question is, I mean, it's kind of important, though, right?
	It is important, but I do feel like you should have sex before you just decide to marry someone.
	That's just my personal opinion.
	Because what if the chemistry isn't there either?
	Like, you say you can see that.
	Chemistry must be there if you're getting married.
	Sexual chemistry and like emotional chemistry can be a bit different.
	Yeah.
	But you can.
	Wait a second.
	This is so weird because you told me, what if you meet a chick and Dreamweaver's playing in the background and you know she's the one just by looking at her?
	But now, how would we ever know unless the guy came into both your vaginas, right?
	Like, how the fuck would you know?
	Don't have him cute, love me, cute man.
	Let me have my mind.
	I'm just saying.
	It's always showing your feminist around here.
	No, but it's just like, there's a difference between like the chemistry you get when you look somebody in the eyes and you're like, oh, yeah.
	Oh, I want to.
	Well, is it Dreamweaver and they're the one?
	Or do they gotta have sex first?
	And then there's like the butterfly moments.
	But then they have to collide at some point.
	But then sometimes you can't actually match up.
	Now if you feel like the person who you're having the butterfly moments with who you're way into, the sex is going to be good.
	No, that's how you feel, but it's not always like that.
	That's the thing.
	And the person that you have this great sexual chemistry with might not be somebody you can actually date.
	That's why, yeah, so they're not interchangeable.
	So now feelings don't matter.
	Right.
	Now there's an objective standard that must be met before we get to anything else.
	I mean, that's just my opinion.
	I can't speak for anyone else's.
	Okay.
	Well, okay, so you said that you are traditional in some ways when it comes to dating.
	For example, you want chivalry from a guy, right?
	which is rather traditional you said you wanted say it again You wanted what?
	Like doors open, paying for first dates.
	In your own words, though.
	Yeah, I said opening doors, planning first dates or treating people out to first date, you know, getting to know that person on a more intimate level.
	Okay.
	So a couple follow-ups here.
	So actually, really quick, just around the table to get everyone involved in this.
	Who should pay for the first date?
	The man.
	The man.
	Whoever.
	Whoever got the money.
	Whoever got the money?
	Yeah, because sometimes I don't mind paying.
	Sure, that's fine.
	I think whoever insinuated the date.
	Whoever started the date, okay.
	I think the guy should first, and then on a second date, the girl should.
	Okay.
	I think either 50-50 or whoever insinuated it.
	Whenever I go with guys, I always offer to pay.
	But if they are adamant about, no, I'm man, I have to pay.
	I'm not going to argue.
	The guy.
	Okay.
	And just going back to, I think it was you and you who said, well, whoever asked should pay, do you ask, have you ever asked a guy out?
	Yeah.
	On the date?
	Have you ever asked a guy out?
	And you've got guys, yeah.
	Okay.
	Not just for your half, but you paid for the whole thing.
	Yes, I took a guy to the spit the other day.
	Okay.
	Okay, it was so good.
	So going around the table again, though, if the guy didn't pay for the first date, say, like, perhaps going in, you didn't know and he proposed to split the bill, would there be a second date?
	No.
	yes yes yes yes yes no because and i feel because everyone said yes so quickly Right, because I was going to explain.
	It's okay.
	So, well, my no is because that's a symptom of so many other things.
	Like, I'm all for people being partners.
	I think people are partners in different ways.
	And in my opinion, especially if we're talking about first date, you know, and it's like, oh, we have to go 50-50.
	It's a symptom of other things.
	It's not, it shouldn't be about the money.
	It's not about the money.
	It's a symptom of a lot of other things.
	A couple more follow-ups for everybody here.
	For those of you who said, yes, the guy should pay, in marriage, do you take your husband's last name?
	Yes.
	Absolutely.
	I don't know if you, I forgot who said yes to me.
	I just don't want to marry, so I don't know.
	Well, I quite like my surname.
	Wait, did you say yes, mentally?
	No, you said whoever insinuates whoever.
	Yeah, not you.
	Well, I mean, some of you said, well, yes, I do ask, but the whole like, well, whoever asks should pay is kind of arbitrary because men are overwhelmingly initiating first aid, so it's kind of like men should pay.
	I think if they got nice surname, yeah, maybe I'll double barrel it otherwise.
	Okay, so who else said yes, the guy should pay?
	Did you?
	For the first date, yeah.
	For the first in marriage, will you take your husband's last name?
	Yeah, I would.
	I don't know.
	You know?
	No, I'd have to have that conversation.
	Okay.
	I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $100.
	Blacklist Traditional, if my memory is right, in your lead role as the protagonist in the hit movie starring Jason Statham the May.
	I don't remember you wearing anything when you escaped the trench.
	Okay, thank you.
	I'm so glad I'm not dating.
	Thank you for your patronage, man.
	That guy has the best name ever.
	Super solid.
	Wait, so you said, though, you would split, right?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	So I also am against legal marriage.
	Legal marriage.
	Yes.
	I don't believe that the government should have anything to do with a marriage.
	I believe that's between two people in God.
	Sure.
	So a covenant marriage?
	Yeah, theory.
	So then you would take your husband's last name.
	I'm not sure on that yet.
	Well, I don't understand this point.
	No, you guys speak into mine.
	Okay, so you're Catholic?
	No.
	Okay, what's your denomination?
	I was raised Orthodox, but I would say I'm non-denominational now.
	Yeah, so then you're taking your husband's name, right?
	Like I said, that's a conversation that I would have to have with him.
	I don't know at this time.
	Well, if you're going to go to the Orthodox Church for a covenant marriage with your crowns, what's your spiritual father going to say?
	As far as the taking the last name, though, I don't think to me personally, I don't think it's that important, but if it means a lot to him, maybe I would take his name.
	Well, he's the head, right?
	That's true.
	And if he says you're taking the name, you're taking the name, right?
	I might.
	I'm not opposed to it.
	I'm not opposed to it.
	I don't get it.
	I don't get the might here.
	I just.
	He's the head.
	Yeah?
	Yes.
	Orthodox marriage, covenant marriage, right?
	Yes.
	So you get the marriage, get your crowns, get all that.
	Everything is great.
	Your husband says, you're taking the name.
	Then I would.
	Okay.
	Then I would.
	Like I said, I'm not opposed to it.
	It's just.
	What about you?
	The question was: would you take your husband's last name?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So, okay, going back to you, traditional.
	You want chivalry, pay for first dates.
	I regret saying that so bad.
	I don't want to hear what you've got to say.
	Okay, so did a little, we do research on everybody.
	You do, I mean, you were pretty clear that you have an OnlyFans in your OnlyFans.
	We can't pull it up, but it states, where's my fucking reading glasses for this shit?
	Hold on.
	You're a bisexual content creator.
	You have 42 triple D titties, 53-inch ass, fat, pretty pussy, and a wet mouth.
	You do full-length XXX videos, explicit and nude all the time.
	Boy girl, solo, anal, pussy play, BJ, toys, kink, fetish-friendly.
	On your Twitter, there's videos of you nude and Sing the D. My dear, you are not traditional.
	I didn't say I currently was.
	I said certain things about the dating world.
	But being traditional in the year 3000.
	The year 3000, you'll be traditional.
	That's what roles are.
	No, you like traditional treatment from men, but you're not a traditional woman.
	No, I'm not a traditional woman.
	But so, I mean, this is a problem that I see in the dating marketplace.
	If you're not a traditional woman, I don't think you're deserving of traditional treatment.
	But it's free shit, right?
	Listen, what you think I'm deserving of has nothing to do with it.
	But I do get.
	See, that's a good point.
	That is actually different.
	No, but that's a very good point you make because I agree with you on your point.
	Despite you not being a traditional woman, men are still going to give a non-traditional woman traditional treatment, which I actually object to, but I acknowledge 100% that even the most modern non-traditional women still somehow.
	No, it's not even somehow.
	It's evident that they still get traditional treatment from men because that is what I don't know.
	Some men are just men.
	But they just treat people nicely.
	Now, but it is different, though.
	It's one thing for, well, you may still get it, but in the, you know, if we're talking about, well, dating is not fair, life's not fair.
	It occurs to me that why are men still holding to their, you know, why are men doling out traditional treatment to non-traditional women?
	That's my issue with it.
	And if it was your expectation, and you said there wouldn't be a second date if the guy didn't pay for after he initiated.
	So that's an expectation on your behalf that you have an expectation that men give you traditional treatment despite the fact that you yourself, by your own admission, are a modern, non-traditional woman.
	Yes.
	And I stand firmly on that.
	So how do you reconcile yourself not being a traditional woman, but expecting and demanding traditional treatment from men?
	Because it's free shit, right?
	I mean, yes, in a sense, it is free shit, number one.
	But number two, it's not that I demand it, it's just what I want.
	You know what I'm saying?
	It's not a need, it's a want.
	Yeah, it's like everyone wants to be treated like a princess, no matter what they do for a job.
	But I find that the job makes you.
	You kind of answered your own question, though, too.
	You said, why do men do traditional things for non-traditional women?
	What do you think that they want?
	Well, I think there's a couple components here.
	Obviously, there's some societal and cultural, what's the right term for it?
	leftovers, there's still like a sort of...
	Scarcity.
	It's not that, but like if it's sort of like a competition pressure.
	So if other men are going to give non-traditional women traditional treatment, those women still have some reason to still expect it, even though they're not deserving of it.
	If men are still willing to give it despite the absolute degradation of traditional behavior on the woman's part, well, there's a dating pressure and the market pressure for the behavior on men's part to continue.
	So, like, even if you are totally non-traditional as a woman, but like you still, like, oh, if he doesn't pay for me, like, I'm not going to continue dating him.
	And if, like, women, there's enough women who have that, who hold the line on, even though I'm not traditional, you still have to be a traditional.
	And if a big enough cohort of non-traditional women hold that line, there's going to be a mating pressure on men to still continue to be traditional, to give traditional treatment.
	Okay.
	So.
	No, I see where you're coming from.
	Yeah.
	But I just feel like, I don't know, like, like you said, you don't feel like non-traditional women are deserving of it.
	You know what I'm saying?
	You're not deserving of it.
	Hey, good for you.
	You still get it.
	It's not.
	That's what you think.
	Well, I think I'm righteous on this position.
	Why?
	Well, it just seems too torn.
	I'm not deserving of traditional treatment.
	Well, here's my approach to it.
	Traditional women ought to get traditional treatment.
	Traditional men ought to get traditional treatment.
	It's just like equality is not really a buffet.
	Like, you get to pick and choose the equality that benefits you, the modernity that benefits you.
	But oh, let me hold on to these.
	Like, I still want a guy to be chivalrous, where when there was a more traditional social order, those things benefited women.
	But now that we're not in a traditional social order, we're in a modern social order.
	But why does a job make somebody untraditional?
	Because, like, I'm not doing it.
	Doing porn is like having photos of yourself nude and like doing adult content with other men out there in public is like the one of the least traditional things that you could do.
	Oh, my God.
	No, it's not.
	Porn's been around for as long as there has been new magazines.
	Oldest, most like traditional.
	You didn't say old, historical.
	Like, it's not a historical account of how old it is.
	He's traditional.
	Mike Davis donated $100.
	What's up, big girl?
	Forget them.
	Mike Davis will show you a life you didn't know existed.
	I just got to a 450 truck that accommodates your figure.
	And new heavy-duty tires, too.
	How I slide in.
	And then DMs.
	Okay, I love Mike.
	Would you date a guy who owned 150-plus Burger Kings?
	I mean, yeah, very good.
	Come on, Mike.
	He's owning them franchises.
	I like that.
	Yeah, I'm just going to wingman for Mike Davis here.
	Mike Davis, me and him go way back.
	He actually saved me once from a bear.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Yeah, it's crazy.
	Me and him were camping, right?
	Like, you guys think, like, you know, I got black friends, right?
	Me and him were camping, right?
	And, you know, like, fucking, you know, the bear came.
	We left some food out accidentally.
	We left some Cheetos and what's having Cheetos camping?
	Cheetos?
	What type of camping do you do?
	You're having their pork rinds and Cheetos, and it was a great, great, just me and him.
	Totally heterosexual, platonic fun.
	Okay.
	And bro, you know, listen, we're wilderness men.
	We're wilderness men.
	And a fucking, I was passed the fuck out, right?
	Because those pork rinds really fucked me up.
	Holy shit.
	That fucking computer came out of nowhere.
	So, he say, bro, the bear, he fucking busted out.
	Some bear spray.
	Sprayed that motherfucker.
	No, this happened.
	This totally happened.
	Oh, he bear maced.
	Yeah, so if, like, one of the big things women look for in a man is the ability to protect.
	Protectors.
	He will, if you're ever fucking camping with this guy, he's the fucking guy you want to be camping with.
	He'll fuck up a bear.
	W Wing.
	Okay.
	Say hi, Mike.
	Thank you, Mike Davis.
	Appreciate it.
	What were you talking about?
	Traditional.
	Being traditional.
	Oh, you're saying, why does your job, look, it's not traditional to.
	But one is.
	What do you mean you're not your job, though?
	You said that.
	Like, the same way that the person I am at home, like, when I'm not the two-pussy princess, when I'm chilling, I'm relaxing and having a nice time and not having to think about like how I look on camera, what people are going to think of me, what I have to say.
	They're not the same person.
	Oh, she's actually kind of nice sometimes.
	And like, do you know, like, that's the person I want to be loved.
	And I want someone to love.
	I don't give a toss what people think about the two pussy princess.
	Yeah, hate me, love me.
	I've got a cool party trick.
	I have two vaginas.
	But like, the real person that what was like the person that I am outside of it, because it's not all real.
	That's the person that wants to be treated like a lady.
	That wants the door held open for sorry.
	That wants the door held open for her.
	That wants to be loved.
	I wants a man to embrace her and make her feel special.
	And do you think that you had something?
	Go ahead.
	I just, I guess I'm trying to reconcile how you commodify something and sell it.
	And then it's something that does directly infringe into your personal life because I would say your body is your personal life.
	It's like acting.
	But it's not like acting.
	I mean, it's acting.
	I feel like acting is very different than what we're talking about.
	Can I chime in?
	I understand completely what she's saying.
	And I just feel like society makes it hard for people to differentiate between a person and their career or their job.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I get it, but if you don't want to date someone who, you know, is a any other profession, it's kind of like that's the hazard pay is someone might not, you know, it's I didn't say that.
	I didn't say like, I understand at the end of the day, my job, if they've got a problem with it, they've got a problem with it and they don't have to date me.
	What I'm saying is that the two person, like Annie Shah, my life that I live, that's not the girl I want people to love.
	The girl I want people to treat me right and make me feel special is the girl that isn't on camera.
	I understand.
	No, I don't understand.
	These are not disconnected things.
	What's difficult about it in because they're two completely different, like, it's like two completely different personalities.
	But I mean, like, the qualities you have do play into the type of job that you get.
	So it's like you are.
	I can't.
	I could have gone into something else.
	I just wanted to go into this.
	I could, like, I could have done a different job.
	I just find it hypocritical to want to have all the benefits of a traditional man while not being able to do it.
	I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $100.
	I am not my job.
	Derek Chauvin should have used that argument in court with your logic.
	Wow.
	Well, I mean, he's making a good point.
	He's making a good point.
	Like, you can't just disassociate yourself, the person, from the job.
	The person is in the job.
	They're still the person.
	I don't think he made a good point at all because he was on duty when he did what he did.
	Yeah, but he's still the person.
	Are you not on duty when you're making OF content?
	But that's not what she said, though.
	She said when she's not on camera, when she's not doing content, when she's not making a camera.
	I think everyone, regardless of what you do, go work.
	It deserves love and deserves a loving partner.
	But I think it's unrealistic to expect to be treated in a traditional way while not carrying yourself in a traditional way.
	I don't find that very hypocritical.
	I disagree with your opinion because, like we just talked about, there are women who are untraditional and they still get traditional treatment.
	So it's not unrealistic.
	It's just rare.
	But you even stated you don't want long-term.
	Right, I don't.
	But doesn't mean that's not going to change.
	Right.
	Just because I don't want a long-term relationship doesn't mean I don't want a man to treat me with traditional treatment.
	But there is doesn't mean I don't want a man to do that.
	But there is something that got that men, if you're looking for a guy to treat you traditionally, there is something that they're investing in.
	They're investing in a relationship.
	You know, it is an investment.
	Hold on.
	Let me finish my question.
	It's reciprocal.
	Mike Davis donated $100.
	Brian, not gon lie.
	We run the back.
	I'm letting you get mauled and I'm pulling out the popcorn too.
	I like Big Girl BC.
	We know she's a platinum Burger King costumer.
	She put spread in my pocket.gratitude.
	Sorry, Mike.
	I hate to break it to you, but I do not eat Burger King.
	That is not where I go.
	Chick-fil-A and Wendy's go, all my money, baby.
	What if it's trucking?
	Oh, that was such a banger comment, though.
	Disgusting.
	Burger King is disgusting.
	Please don't insult Mike Davis's.
	I'm not insulting him.
	I'm insulting.
	Didn't he just buy you a truck?
	He didn't buy it.
	He didn't buy it.
	Oh, okay.
	If he did, would you eat it?
	Look, in support.
	But look, I mean, look, doing, like, having nude photographs of yourself out there, sleeping with other men for work, porn, it's not traditional.
	Right.
	We're not.
	I'm not disposing of that.
	Well, she's saying that there's, well, I'm not saying that.
	Well, actually, I'm not saying that.
	That's the basis of the conversation.
	I really wanted her to finish her point, though, because she was.
	Oh, you're right.
	You're right.
	Go ahead.
	Continue.
	Yeah, I was just saying that building up to the point of there's something reciprocal in relationships.
	And if you're looking for a traditional guy, I promise you that that reciprocity and what they're investing into in time and money in paying for a date and, you know, it's all reciprocal.
	And it's different if you're a non-traditional guy versus a traditional guy, what you're investing in versus.
	Tracy on Tilt donated $100.
	Which girl, I don't mean to be rude with my questions.
	I am merely curious with the choices you made and why.
	I pray you find God.
	In the meantime, don't put a spell on me, please.
	I just do light magic, sweetheart.
	I don't do black magic.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Tracy.
	Go ahead with your.
	And so, like, where was I?
	The reciprocity is kind of what I was getting to, but really, it's like, you know, if love's what you want, then love's, go for it.
	I guess the point here is it changes what guys are willing to put into a relationship for people who are living traditionally and not going down non-traditional paths.
	And that's not even a judgment on either one.
	It just, what it does is it creates an environment where all guys, you know, all guys are bad guys.
	They don't want to put the effort in.
	They don't want to pay for the first date.
	You know, I think that the nice guy trope is sad because I think that guys have a biological tendency to be able to do that.
	Shock trapped in the fishinets donated $106.69.
	Alexis looks like a high school dropout, fatherless, alcoholic, low-budget stripper, but I would still smash for show and hit from the back even toe the back shot wince praley smell like seaworld.
	I don't think I understood that.
	I appreciate the silence from everyone.
	The Meg lives on.
	They really like to interrupt you with the TTSs.
	Did you have more?
	I do.
	Well, I feel like I need to wrap it up now because they're coming in.
	Yeah, no, it's really just that I think stuff that I think of is how it actually affects like a traditional path.
	And I feel as though guys, you know, even if they are looking for a traditional woman, they look less.
	I feel as though they're less apt to put it, you know, put that value and put the time in if they think that it's just going to be turned into some short-term thing and it's not going to be a long-term thing.
	Okay.
	Well, so can I want to dive in on this real quick?
	You hate me.
	Yes.
	I do.
	But anyway, so the.
	Yeah, I get it all the time.
	So the how does a guy disassociate?
	Like, okay, he wakes up in the morning and he pours his coffee and he's like, I'm going to go to work, honey.
	And you're like, yeah, and I'm going to go fuck dudes.
	Like, how would he disassociate you, the girl with the dream weaver, you know, in the background, from the you who goes and gets like, you know, double vagina hump during the day?
	Like, how do you, how do you get away from this?
	I hope I do.
	Like, but the thing is, not yet, because I'm so not ready to settle down.
	I'm like, I'm in my technically prime of my career.
	I'm going to be.
	Can somebody just read it?
	Says, I'm not my job.
	I've heard so many 304s go on about how they love being violated, thrown around, and used as rags.
	Don't fool yourself, redhead.
	Okay, thank you.
	Don't fool yourself, redhead.
	I do like that, yes.
	Ah, Jew, who doesn't?
	Am I supposed to?
	Am I supposed to not?
	I personally don't like being violated, but that's just me.
	Oh, not actually, like, sorry, I don't mean like I want to be violated.
	I mean, in the sense in the bedroom.
	You want me to read it, Brian?
	This is a good idea.
	I am, yeah, I like to be thrown around in the bedroom, but I also like to be.
	Why can't things be separate?
	Like, why can't I want a nice guy to like the other me and do my job and then also have nice intimacy that sometimes can be rough and sometimes can be nice.
	Like, you can like, but I don't really understand why, because I said, because I do my job, I didn't really understand that comment.
	What were they trying to say to me?
	They're still diving in on the disassociation.
	So, they're just saying, how do I, how does, how does anybody disassociate you from the fact that you say, well, this is just a job.
	It's like, okay, I get it that you think of it as just a job.
	But how do I disassociate you, the person, from what it is you do?
	Because you get to know the actual me.
	He's Bob the builder.
	The girl, the only fan.
	But you get to know the actual me, because obviously the online personality that I have isn't the real me.
	Like, the homie that goes on dog walks every day and loves my mom unconditionally and cries all the time sometimes.
	But those are all aspects of you.
	Yeah, that I don't show online.
	Yeah, but those other things are also aspects of you.
	Yes, but they're two different, separate, like they're one of them.
	They're not separate.
	They're both you.
	Well, they are, though, because when you get into this kind of industry, it's not like you put your full self out there.
	There is a second, there is a second, you have to, you have to have a second skin.
	Being online is so hard.
	You have to take all the like mean comments, all the everything.
	Nobody else is having sex but you, right?
	It's you.
	You're sexual.
	So technically, one can do that, but it's you.
	And then maybe.
	Yeah, I'm just saying it's you, and then it's also you.
	It's still you.
	Yeah, I cannot.
	I see what I see where you're going with it, and I understand.
	But I think what she's trying to say is that when we log on or when we make our videos and things like that, it's a fantasy that we're selling.
	So in our mind, because this is a job, this is something that we're doing to get paid, that's not all that we are.
	You know what I'm saying?
	To people out here, that's what we are to them.
	But, you know, when we have conversations like this, we say, yeah, we're not just that.
	We're not just our job.
	That's the point.
	Yeah, I understand what you're saying there, too.
	You're saying, look, there's other aspects of me besides just this type of sex work that I do.
	Right.
	I get it.
	But you also have to own the fact that it's also you doing the sex work.
	No, yes, I'm not.
	Yeah, I'm not disagreeing that I'm trying to ask a man to completely dissociate them.
	But I am asking for like, he's got to accept my job.
	At the end of the day, it's not going to work out.
	But I am asking for him not every time he looks.
	Like, I'm asking for the respect you get doing your job, as you just said, no one's going to love us.
	No one's going to respect us.
	I'm just saying, the at-home me that sits down and sits for a movie with my partner, that she wants some respect, she wants some love.
	And that was all I was saying.
	Can I interject?
	But I mean, it's the truth, though.
	A lot of these guys, they don't care what a whore has to say.
	You know, it's the truth.
	Like, they don't care.
	So, even if you spill your gut when they watch this, they're going to be looking like, shut your whore eventually.
	So, it's like, at the end of the day, I mean, it's the truth, though.
	They don't care because we are the tainted meat and they see us as lower than, you know, I see people's comments.
	I read through a lot of stuff and they don't care that you want to be loved when you go home.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So, at the end of the day, you already have to come to that realization and say, I don't give a shit.
	Well, don't worry about it.
	I feel like that's definitely true.
	But isn't there motivation actually for reformation?
	So, since it's like the motivation of shame is usually for reformation.
	So, the motivate.
	Now, there's just some people who are just fucking mean.
	I agree, right?
	There's just some mean people out there.
	Absolutely.
	But I think for the most part, shame has a place in society.
	He's trying to reform people out of behavior that you would prefer to not see.
	Correct.
	Right?
	Yeah.
	And so if the social shame, always the stigma is towards the sex work, isn't that a form of social reformation?
	What about the people who do want to see it?
	I mean, y'all speaking on the people who dislike it, but there's not going to be.
	Yeah, but they're trying to shame those people too.
	That's why.
	But that stuff's been like since, like, to get onto the point of it, moving on.
	All right.
	Here.
	Well, I do need to finish my thread on tradition, but let me get some chats.
	And Nickelodeon to the witch.
	I've played DD2 to the Goblin.
	No one would pay $40, let alone decent money to contract STDs from that.
	To Brian's lapdog, I hope you know how to defend against magic.
	Who's the lapdog?
	I don't want to believe.
	Okay.
	Okay, go ahead.
	He speaks.
	I thought you only spoke Spanish, dude.
	What the fuck?
	By the way, guys, if you're curious, this is a Chilean military uniform.
	Okay, Chile.
	Chile donated $100.
	Thank you, I have to say it.
	You said you can fake it for your job, so keep in mind anything you say now, knowing you can do that means you might always be full of shit.
	Am I wrong?
	You said you could fake it?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh.
	Do you want to replace it?
	Did I say I could make it?
	I don't think I said I can fake it.
	I didn't have to figure it out.
	I just said, like, you act.
	I act, yes.
	Which is like something.
	Because obviously, I can't lie.
	The pizza man coming to my door doesn't always happen.
	Like, it is acting.
	Everything is acting.
	It's beautiful.
	All right.
	Let me.
	Okay.
	We have GG here.
	Hey, thank you, man.
	Just to clarify, I'm not the one sleeping around during the separation.
	He is.
	Won't that change the way he sees me?
	Should I trust his intentions?
	Looking for advice from someone other than my mom.
	And we do have a TTS that is coming in here in just a sec.
	Won't that change the way he sees me?
	I honestly feel like.
	Oh, well, wait a minute.
	I'm so glad I'm not.
	I'm not dating donated $100.
	Redhead, I wish your father would have grabbed you when you were younger, held you into his chest sternly, whispered in your ear, you're going to be amazing when you grow up.
	I love you.
	How do you know our dad didn't do that?
	Oh, he didn't.
	He just shoved tobacco in my mouth and made me chew it.
	Oh.
	Yeah, he told me I had to know what it tastes like so I could roll my man the perfect cigarette because apparently that's what traditional men use women used to do for their men according to my father.
	Do you know how to do that?
	I do actually know how to roll a cigarette.
	Okay.
	So going back to the GG said it's like the one useful thing.
	I'm not the one sleeping around during the separation he is.
	Won't that change?
	Wait, so Gonna change the way he sees you because he's sleeping around.
	What?
	Yes.
	I'm assuming it's a girl.
	She seems like she has a ton of anxiety on how she's gonna see him once the separation ends.
	In my opinion, if she's listening, don't go back.
	I think they were quoting what she's in, trying to make sense of it.
	I don't know if I interpreted that wrong.
	Well, yeah, she's okay.
	No, I was thinking around and she's gonna be.
	Wait, who initiated the break?
	Who initiated the break?
	I think this is going back to the break question.
	I think, yeah, he's the one that initiated the break.
	Sleeping with other people during a break separation with long-term, knowing you'll be back together.
	Okay.
	Well, I want to know who initiated the break.
	That would be helpful information.
	But I mean, if it's your husband doing it, that comes down to you.
	If you're on this break and you are okay with him doing that while you're on the break, I mean, I think a man, look, well, it's not really.
	You guys are on a break, according to you guys, so I don't know.
	It's not cheating, I guess.
	But I think he can still love you, even if he were to have slept with another woman.
	But you're definitely right.
	If he insinuated the break, then that's messed up.
	And then he's going to be.
	No, I feel like he would, you know, might treat you different because what if he's more happier with that person and he starts to get a stronger connection or he enjoys this person a little bit more, it might do come down to him treating you different.
	And if you see that, don't go back.
	Y'all want to break.
	But if you go back and then you see a person is treating you differently from the beginning and it's below your standards, then leave that person alone.
	Don't be with somebody who makes you unhappy.
	We have Aaron Chambers shout out from Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
	Two questions.
	Big fan, Andrew.
	Are you Christian because the alternative is disaster in modern society?
	And ladies who rate themselves 9-10, we do need help on the offensive line.
	I give you a 10 out of 10 for that job.
	Hashtag roll tie.
	Okay.
	Yeah, so funny.
	To answer that question, no.
	I'm not a Christian because of that.
	However, there is a pragmatic side effect which happens because of that, which is also nice.
	But no, that's not my motivation behind it at all.
	We have Es Mil here.
	Good episode, Brian.
	And no temptation to check out these Girls OnlyFans.
	WW.
	Is that double?
	It's win-win.
	Win-win.
	Okay.
	Yo, Esmil, thank you, man.
	Appreciate your patronage.
	Thank you, guys.
	Okay.
	Bringing it back here, we have some tweets from Miss Exquisite.
	Oh, my God.
	Stochastic Decay donated $100.
	Hey, Brain.
	Sorry, I'm not.
	Busy day.
	I had some chili as baby backwards.
	Read about how Philosopher Pluto was a feminist.
	Had sex in front of my grandparents.
	Anyway, soldier, blink if you need help.
	Oh, he just walked off, but he chuckled as he chuckled as he walked.
	I thought he was blinking.
	He was blinking.
	He's doing good.
	Hey, Stochastic Decay.
	Thank you so much, man.
	Good to see you in the chat.
	Thank you.
	Nick, can you make it the tweets a little bigger?
	So, Miss Exquisite, we're going to have you read the tweets out in your voice.
	Okay, go ahead, Nick.
	Can we please talk about how majority of you men don't know how to eat cats?
	Because I'm genuinely tired of the cap.
	Now, the context for pulling up your tweets is because you said you like your tradition.
	You're traditional in dating.
	So I want the viewers to like listen to the tweets and also have in the back of your head that she called herself traditional.
	How did they say I was traditional?
	Yeah.
	Okay, that's fair.
	That's fair.
	That's what I said.
	You like traditional dating.
	So these are the counter, sort of like a dichotomy here.
	Let's he got you.
	I did not expect this.
	Okay.
	So, again, viewers, in the back of your head, she likes traditional dating.
	Let's pull up her tweets.
	Whatever.
	You got to read it.
	I want you to read it.
	I want to rise somebody's son's face and swallow his hole.
	I hate it here.
	It's very traditional.
	I mean, it can be traditional with the one that you really like.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Oh, my God.
	Hold on.
	I thought I had to come over.
	You know what I'm saying?
	The name is Freak Nasty.
	Yes, that's my alter ego.
	Freak nasty.
	Pull back up.
	Let's try to blast through these if we can.
	Good morning to all the men who stays hard after they nut.
	I hope you have an amazing day.
	So traditional.
	I'm just grateful for what people have.
	I'm going to be honest.
	If I didn't have weed, I would lose my entire fucking shit out here, man.
	That's a fact.
	I can't lie.
	That's one of my therapies.
	Okay.
	Hey, is that a bad therapy?
	Where are the big dick men who have their passports and are travel ready?
	And is that your first date where they pay for that?
	I mean, yeah.
	That's a good question.
	That's a good question.
	You're going to take me out of the country.
	Why not?
	Why can't I not pay for that?
	Exaltech.
	The only thing I hate about this trip is that I didn't bring any with me.
	That was a girl's trip.
	I was just upset because I couldn't bring anything with me.
	But if I could, I would have.
	Don't get it twisted.
	Next.
	More?
	I can't wait to get back to my room so I can roll the fattest backwood known to men.
	Hey, I'm a pothead.
	I smoke a lot of weed.
	But it's not really traditional.
	I mean, okay, wait a minute.
	A drug addict.
	No, I'm not.
	A drug consumer.
	Weed is a herb from the earth.
	It's actually a plant.
	So it's poison.
	But it's not a drug.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Next.
	There's never any when I come in the house.
	I hate it here.
	I like that you end so many with.
	I hate it.
	There were moments I really do hate it here.
	I hate when I'm watching content in a don't stay hard.
	Like, baby, I don't want to watch boneless this.
	I'm going to be honest with you.
	And I don't think a lot of people realize that in the porn industry, a lot of men cannot stay up.
	Like, they're either taking drugs for it to keep, you know what I'm saying?
	Keep injection.
	Keep erections, or they're constantly having to take breaks and kind of like rejuvenate.
	And it's like that's why they got as a consumer.
	I don't want to watch you doing something, and then it looks like you're losing your momentum.
	So it's like, it's not appetizing to me at that point.
	That's fair.
	I mean, hey.
	Oh, my God.
	I just nutted to the thought of this man.
	I cannot wait to get my hands on him.
	But it's all public.
	It's not very traditional.
	You can't have.
	I'm going on a date with a girl and I'm thinking about this is my work Twitter.
	So nothing about this is traditional.
	It's still you, though.
	Yeah, it is still me.
	Yeah, it is.
	But the fantasy.
	Oh, this one's really not traditional.
	Can we have you read this?
	Miss Exquisite.
	I can't wait until this weekend.
	I'm a throat out of this man's until I can't breathe.
	Go on, girl.
	Get it.
	Now I see why you thought it was the gobbler because it's, you know.
	Yeah, I just like.
	No, I'm just saying from all the horse.
	Yo, it's about that.
	When you blow out the songs, I went to go see a man about a horse tonight, and I creamed all over that moment.
	Just wait till you see this new video.
	I was promoting a BBC.
	Oh, a black.
	A BBC.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	This is just promoting the new video.
	That one wasn't.
	That one wasn't even.
	I want to go home.
	I feel like I shouldn't be hearing this.
	Why?
	You're earbuds.
	Perhaps.
	Because we are so Christian.
	No, Fiso.
	Hold up your ears.
	It's not even a matter of that.
	It's just so explicit.
	I don't know why you want the world to know those thoughts.
	I mean, it's really not about me wanting the world to know my thoughts.
	It's about me promoting my videos.
	It's about me promoting and getting engagement.
	A lot of people see tweets like that and think that this is just how I feel all the time.
	Obviously, it's promotion.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, you got to think.
	There are people out here that think these thoughts every day and they tweet it behind burner accounts or accounts that they don't want you to find out.
	What's the problem with me tweeting it from a sex worker page?
	I didn't say there's a problem.
	No, no, I'm just saying, like, out loud.
	We got another one.
	Look at this.
	It's my man's birthday today.
	I wish I was sucking his tick right now.
	I mean, Chris Brown.
	Okay, I love Chris Brown.
	I don't know what, look, Cameron, anybody else have to say, I love that man.
	Was that to promote a video?
	No, that was for me to get noticed.
	Right.
	Because who does not look?
	Well, I mean, if I'm going on a date with you on May 6th, on May 6th, you sent this at noon.
	You sent this at noon on May 5th.
	If I'm going on a date with you on May 5th at 5, 7 p.m.
	And I know you're wishing Chris Brown a happy birthday and wanting to suck his D, I'm going to feel a top of way about that.
	Then you, as a grown man, need to check your complex because that is a celebrity that I clearly have no access to at the moment.
	Never say never.
	Say, never.
	Chris Brown is going to watch this and he's going to DM you later.
	Well, hang on.
	She said at the moment.
	I did say at the moment.
	I love Chris.
	She said the point of the tweet was to get noticed.
	All right.
	I love my Chris Matt.
	Does that mean y'all that you would have not?
	Oh, all right.
	Y'all, y'all back there working.
	Okay.
	I don't even want to read that.
	Yeah, that's a lot.
	That's a lot.
	And I just feel like y'all just trying to put me on the spot.
	Is that the last one then?
	Is that the last one?
	That's it?
	Okay, cool.
	All right, Miss Exquisite.
	I'm sorry, my dear.
	You are not traditional.
	Amen.
	You're not traditional.
	Your Twitter and the things we've discussed and the look, you're still going to, a lot of these guys are still going to give you traditional treatment, but the argument that I'm making is if you're not a traditional woman, you cannot expect or demand traditional treatment from men.
	I can't expect it, but I will demand it.
	You still may very well get it, but it does not seem like a fair trade-off to the men.
	It's not fair.
	What's not fair about it?
	You're not returning.
	You're not reciprocating traditional treatment.
	I don't know what I'm reciprocating in return.
	What are you reciprocating?
	By default, you're just not traditional, though.
	What does that mean?
	You get everything.
	You get the gobble.
	You're every part of me.
	Get the gobble gobble gobble.
	What?
	That's what she did.
	I mean, like, let's just say, other than anything sexually related.
	I wasn't just speaking sexually.
	I just meant all around the board.
	Personality-wise, loyalty.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Well, they can't get loyalty.
	I mean, you can get loyalty.
	And we're not going back to this whole me doing work, isn't me cheating.
	No, hang on.
	I'm not even saying cheating.
	I'm not even saying cheating here.
	Loyalty, though.
	I mean, if my partner has to understand it and is comfortable with what I do and my job, then it's not cheating.
	I'm being loyal because I'm allowing them into that part of my life and they know about it.
	So it's not me not, it's not me being disloyal at all.
	Let me ask you something.
	Let's say that you have like a filmmaker and he wants you to do this big porno and he's going to give you, I don't know, thousands of dollars, whatever the hell the going rate is.
	I have no idea.
	And you go, sure, yeah, I'll do that.
	And your partner has an understanding that you, you know, you do porn.
	Okay.
	That's he knows this.
	Okay.
	So you go, you do the porn, and then you get out of the porn and you go out in the parking lot, and some guy's like, hey, I'll give you 10 grand to, you know, do this sex act to me.
	And you do that.
	Is that cheating?
	If the other guy gives you 10 grand and you do it, well, just because he has 10 grand doesn't mean I'm going to do it.
	Yeah, I know.
	But if you did, would it be cheating?
	If I didn't let my partner know about it, yeah, that would be cheating.
	That would be cheating.
	That's yeah, because they're not, they're unaware of me now doing something else.
	So do you have to call your partner every single time you're going to do something and be like, yeah, I'm going to go do this sexual act with this other person?
	If I had a partner, yeah, I would.
	Yeah.
	I mean, why not?
	That just sounds like it's not.
	You might want to be honest.
	They're already coming into a situation where they're kind of feeling a little skeptical.
	But that just sound totally miserable for the electric guy to be like, oh, okay, then, you know, and I can speak on that now because I talked to somebody who deals with it.
	Yeah.
	Like, that's just it.
	Okay.
	Here we have a chat coming in, and then I'll try to get through everybody else's notes.
	We have Shaybay.
	Is SA included in body count?
	Not a drunk hookup regret.
	Red flag.
	Also, how does someone from the 317 get on the pod?
	Hey, DM at whatever on Instagram.
	We are casting women.
	If you're a woman, you want to be on the show.
	If you can make it, if you can make it to Santa Barbara, just shoot us a DM.
	No, SA is not included in body count.
	I wouldn't consider it.
	That could be consensual.
	Like a real case and not the manual bullshit.
	Yeah, I don't consider that.
	All right.
	Moving on with the notes.
	Okay, still here on Miss Exquisite.
	You said you have a lot of crazy stories.
	You caught your ex cheating by opening his garage.
	If we can, just so I can get through everyone's notes, try to keep, I want to try to just get through everyone's notes.
	Let's try to keep a little brief if possible.
	Finding the spare key, popping up on him.
	So you caught him in the act.
	Kind of.
	So basically, I pulled up to his house.
	This was after school one day.
	Mind you, he's graduating and I'm a junior.
	Pulled up to his house.
	He wasn't answering the phone.
	I seen an unknown car that I've never seen before in front of his house.
	So I'm like, something's not right.
	And I answering the phone.
	All right.
	Let me go see what's up.
	So, mind you, we've been dating for four years.
	This is my longest relationship.
	And I've been to his house many times.
	So I know where he keeps the spare key.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I know the pin to the garage.
	I know how to get inside.
	Find the motherfucking pin, put the pin in.
	I see the garage door going up.
	So I'm like, I need to be fast because if he hears the garage door going up, he's going to know something's up.
	His parents are out of town and everything.
	So he's the only one supposed to be home.
	I roll under the garage.
	Like, I literally get on the ground and I roll.
	So I roll under the door.
	Right.
	That's it.
	Get it, you know how many memes are coming from there.
	I'm so serious.
	I'm telling you, it's not a joke.
	I'm dying.
	Y'all don't understand.
	But no, seriously, I rolled under the garage door and I ran over to where he had a watering can where the key was underneath.
	Takes the key from underneath the watering can and I open the garage door.
	So now I'm like, I gotta be fast because he's gonna hear everything.
	All the alarms are going off.
	I run up the stairs and I hear a loud noise.
	It's like a banging noise.
	So they slam the door.
	So I'm like, so I go up the stairs and I see the girl trying to creep out the door.
	So I'm like, who's that?
	Incest Mountain Goat donated $106.69.
	Ask Mountain Girl if she's inbred.
	She looks hella confused.
	Troglodyt has bomb but clot look like an Area 51 mountain goat.
	Piso hair eats like an Iranian Sasquatch.
	Her brother whacks it.
	Hashtag patriarchy.
	Am I the mountain girl?
	Yeah, yeah, you're the mountain girl.
	I don't even know what you're trying to say.
	But yeah, long story short.
	Wait, do you wait?
	Yeah, because you're from the Appalachian mountains, right?
	I mean, that's where I live now.
	I'm originally from Florida.
	Oh, okay.
	Wait, hold on.
	You moved from Florida to the Appalachian.
	My parents did.
	I was a child, yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Cheaper living?
	Yeah, it's in quieter living.
	Oh, okay.
	The question was: Am I in bread?
	Jesus is crazy.
	No.
	Do you want?
	No.
	Okay, if you want to respond, you know.
	That was crazy.
	That's your response.
	What else is there to respond to?
	He's shooting shots.
	You're going to shoot back?
	What was the end of it?
	I didn't remember.
	You don't want to read that.
	You don't want to.
	That one was pretty bad.
	Bring it on.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Going back to.
	Long story short, I ended up getting upstairs and he locked himself in his room.
	And she tried to leave, but I wouldn't let her leave because I'm like, who are you?
	Why are you here?
	And she wasn't trying to answer my questions.
	And I'm like, okay, well, if you don't want to leave and he's not going to come out the room, I'm just going to go outside and bash your windows.
	But I didn't do that.
	I didn't do that.
	I didn't go to jail that day.
	But that's it.
	That's one of my crazier dating stories.
	Kind of why I don't deal with men now because they're weird and they lie about stupid.
	Okay.
	You also said we already kind of talked about this.
	You say, though, your outlook on how doing porn won't affect your future as far as dating, maintaining relationships, family, friends, partners, and also future careers.
	So you're saying that how you're doing adult content is not going to have any impact on future careers and on dating and family.
	For me.
	You don't think it's going to have any impact on dating?
	Okay.
	No.
	I mean, I'm not dating right now.
	Well, you at least perhaps the guy that you want won't have an issue with it, but you at least acknowledge those of you who do adult content that it is going to close the door for maybe you don't want these men, but it will close the door for a good amount of men.
	100%.
	Absolutely.
	I definitely agree with that.
	Okay.
	But it doesn't affect me.
	Sure.
	You said, as far as dating.
	It doesn't.
	My entire mindset is to keep things simple until it's time to make them complicated.
	I feel like everyone should be dating multiple people until they feel comfortable with settling down with their soulmate.
	Yes.
	And I think we had a bit of a back and forth on that.
	But so your position is basically like at the beginning, you just date multiple people, see what you like, and if you want, sell it.
	A date for fun.
	Pick one.
	Question: Are you currently dating anybody?
	Anybody?
	I wouldn't call it dating.
	We have a very good understanding and a very strong friendship.
	I wouldn't call it dating.
	Friendship benefits.
	Okay, there's a guy you're seeing, but it's not monogamous.
	Yeah, it's not monogamous.
	How many people have you dated at the same time?
	Because you say you should date multiple people.
	So what's like the most I've dated at the same time is three.
	But I have had like a roster of men where I like may talk to from time to time, go on dates here and there.
	How big is the roster?
	It could be about nine, ten.
	Nine to ten.
	I'm not having sex with all of them, though.
	That's the difference.
	But you have a roster.
	So nine to ten.
	I do have a roster.
	I'm going to open that question to the entire panel here.
	What's the most amount of people you've dated at the same time?
	So roster.
	Was it on me when Madison answered?
	Okay.
	One.
	Okay.
	Probably three at the most.
	Three dated at the same time?
	Yeah, but not like having sex with them at the same time.
	What about roster?
	What's the biggest roster you've had?
	I don't.
	Men annoy.
	Some men annoy me a lot, so I prefer to keep it low, you know, in my life.
	So my favorite, like my sub right now, he's my favorite.
	That's who I talk to, really.
	Well, not just at any dating.
	Not currently, how big is the roster, but like at what's the biggest it's ever been?
	Yeah, like three.
	Because I just don't want to deal with a bunch.
	Yeah.
	So like I wasn't dating them, but I was sleeping with them.
	What?
	Yeah, what's how many?
	Seven.
	One for every day of the week.
	But I didn't always do.
	It's fucking disgusting.
	Hold on.
	You were sleeping with.
	Yeah, but it was over a space of like a large period of time.
	Like, I just rotate.
	The question is, how many, like, how many people have you dated at the same time?
	Well, I haven't.
	The only people I've ever dated consecutively are two people I'm seeing at the moment, but like slept with and like continually slept with over sorry, continually slept with over like six months.
	I'd say nine.
	Yeah.
	Did I say seven or nine?
	I don't know.
	Seven or nine.
	Excuse me?
	I just like sex.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What?
	You said one for every day of the week?
	I know.
	Nine.
	So wait, sleeping with how many at the same time?
	Let's say in a month period.
	Have you ever slept with more than two men in a 24-hour period?
	No.
	You said you have two boyfriends right now.
	Yeah, but I wouldn't do that to them.
	Okay.
	Is it 36 hours since the cutoff?
	Yeah, 36 hours is the exact number.
	No, but so what about the roster?
	Yeah, so.
	Is the roster bigger than the nine or whatever you said?
	It's it's it's got I'm trying to count.
	Quite few at the same time.
	It was uni.
	Everyone has loads of sex at university, don't they?
	No.
	Okay.
	Your look on the face says no.
	All right.
	I'm uni wrong.
	But yeah, during uni, that was another time.
	I've had a few rosters at a few different times, and they've been quite large.
	JC Brown donated $100.
	Thank you, Jason.
	I stopped dating and trying because 304s run rampant.
	Malek, Madison, and Alexis, you are a breath of fresh air for traditional men.
	Thank you for being genuine, respectful ladies.
	Oh, there you go.
	A nice message.
	What did I do actually?
	Like, she literally.
	Never mind.
	You guys want to be like, I just think it's the worst.
	You guys don't want to say anything to It just gave you a compliment.
	It was just like a back-handed compliment, though, wasn't it?
	Not to them.
	They were talking to this.
	Breath of fresh air is a pretty good compliment.
	Yeah, it's fun.
	That's fun.
	Okay.
	Not breathing.
	Oh, we were going around the table.
	How many people have you dated at the same time?
	Have you had a roster?
	No, and one.
	No.
	And like I said, before I only talked to one guy at a time, I think it's.
	No, I can't do more than one.
	Yeah, one.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay.
	So you've had a roster.
	Yes, I've had a roster.
	I've had a roster.
	Nine to ten.
	All right.
	Okay.
	I mean, I was young.
	I was dating.
	All right.
	I was having fun.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	I'm 19.
	Like, what the hell?
	Last thing here, you said the world is in such a rush to find love or that one person they've been searching for, and it makes things very complicated because now people are being held to certain expectations that they may or may not be ready for.
	And I think we talked about it.
	Yes, we did.
	Wait, hold on.
	You think there's too many expectations?
	Yes.
	Do you think, so for example, what I said earlier, my expectation of be properly single when you meet me.
	Don't be dating other men.
	Don't be sleeping with other men.
	Do you think that that's like a burdensome expectation that I'm placing on women?
	The biggest expectation.
	Probably going to be your biggest letdown.
	Let down.
	Because it's just, it doesn't make sense for you to assume that somebody's going to do that.
	Assume what?
	What do you mean?
	When you meet someone and you think about dating them, that they're going to drop whoever they are already talking to, dating, dealing with for you.
	Whether it's unreasonable.
	Yeah, why is it unreasonable?
	Because you don't just, I mean, me, I personally am not going to cut off whatever else I have going on just because I met you.
	Like, right, you.
	Yeah.
	I'm speaking for myself.
	Am I not speaking for myself?
	Well, I mean, in this case, when you're talking about what's unreasonable, is it unreasonable for Brian to have that standard?
	Yeah, kind of.
	But only if it's with you, right?
	Not really.
	I just feel like it doesn't make sense for you to just assume that somebody would do that just because you just met them.
	It's not that.
	Everybody's not the same.
	No, Well, that's what you're expecting.
	It's not me.
	What I'm assuming, it's if you want to keep seeing me, you got to sit.
	First off, I don't want guys to be in the picture from the beginning.
	Right.
	But if look, well, you also changed what you said, too.
	At first, you said they have to completely stop talking to or dealing with whoever they were dealing with when they met you.
	Then you said, oh, well, I'm going to give them that one grace period.
	Yeah, well, I guess it's right.
	Well, then, if you want to see me for the second date, then you have to cut off all those other people.
	That's what you said.
	Well, there's okay.
	So here's the most ideal scenario.
	Okay.
	Well, I mean, the most ideal scenario would be she's a billionaire heiress and a 10 out of 10, and she's a virgin, and BLM.
	But so, but okay, the most ideal situation is going in, she's been recently encumbered with any sort of relationship or boyfriend.
	She's been single for a decent period of time.
	She's not currently sleeping with somebody.
	She's not dating anybody else.
	She's properly single.
	Thank you.
	I'm so glad I'm not dating.
	I live in Eastern Washington almost in the wow.
	He wants to smoke.
	I stepped outside and smelled sloppy rotten clay.
	Jesus Christ.
	Once I tuned into whatever I realized why.
	Redhead.
	Okay.
	Lol, just because you can't get it.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	Okay.
	Please don't be mean to.
	I'm so glad I'm not dating.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	Oh, I'm just, I'm not like, what?
	Okay.
	That's the reason he ain't dating.
	So It would be suboptimal for me to like have to give somebody leeway.
	But look, it's like if she's a great girl and she went on, she wasn't sleeping with the guy, that's 100% a deal breaker.
	But if she was on another date with a guy recently, or you know, that might, I might give leeway there.
	But if she's sleeping with a guy, it's a 100% no-go.
	Goodbye.
	Back to the streets, ye-go.
	I don't think that's unreasonable because I'm a woman, and if I was seeing a man and he's going on dates with other women or sleeping with other women, I would not continue talking to him.
	But you're dating for long-term.
	That's why you feel that way.
	He is as well.
	He's not looking for.
	Is that correct, Brian?
	Yeah, I'm not interested.
	I'm not interested in one-night stands or casual sex.
	I'm interested in.
	Okay, so then that changes my whole perspective because I'm speaking on what you asked me about.
	Even if I was interested in casual sex, I wouldn't, I would still be unattracted to a woman who in re in who has recently had sexual intercourse with another man or is having sexual intercourse with another man or in between our casual encounters is going to have casual encounters with another man.
	But that makes no sense if you're just looking, you're looking for just that.
	Oh, it's still just like disgusting.
	But you then claim yourself to be disgusting because you're looking for that.
	You're looking for casual sex.
	Well, even if I was just having casual sex, yeah, but even if I just wanted to have sex, which I'm not inclined to have, it's not, it doesn't interest me.
	Like, cause a lot, it's actually interesting.
	On wait, Andrew wasn't here.
	Two shows ago, we had a girl who's like, she's kind of probably just putting on like a little show or an act, but she was, she was hitting on me and she's like, oh, I want to hit it.
	I'm like, okay, first off, she's putting on a little show.
	But I turned her down.
	A lot of people in their chat were, oh, well, if the cameras weren't running, like, Brian would probably hit it.
	And it's like, no, I wouldn't.
	And well, part of it was she's had sex on camera and her body count was over 100.
	So even for casual sex, even though she was, she's okay looking.
	She's her friend, you know.
	Oh, that's your friend Lily?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Look, she's probably doing something for the cameras, but people in the comments were like, she's talking.
	Probably behind the scenes, Brian is still trying to smash.
	No, I'm not.
	I don't want to fuck a girl one time who's, I'm not just point blank, period, but then add on top that she does porn.
	There's, there's videos of her fucking other dudes on the internet.
	She's got a high body count.
	I'm not about it.
	I do want to bring up something, Brian, if I could.
	Earlier, we were kind of joking, but we joked about NDAs.
	And you made a comment, should I start having women sign NDAs?
	But you just stated that you don't do casual hookups or casual relationships.
	No, but I could be dating a girl, and if we break up, that could still, she could still choose to like publicly talk about me.
	So an NDA would protect me in the event of casual sex or in the event of a long-term relationship.
	Okay, I was just wondering on that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, I'm not.
	Yeah.
	But I'm unreasonable, according to you.
	I mean, I just, before you further explained the whole leaning it situation, yeah, I did think that what you said was unreasonable for you to just meet someone and say, okay, I'm going to start dating them and then just expect them to not be dating.
	Well, I want to, the most optimum situation is she's properly single when she meets me.
	So there's no need for me to give her leeway.
	She's not going on dates with other men.
	She's not currently sleeping with another man.
	It's been months or longer the last time she dated a guy or slept with a guy.
	That's the most optimum situation.
	You've come to me properly single.
	And how are you meeting these ladies?
	How do you know that?
	That girl ain't going to be on a dating app, I can tell you that much.
	Yeah, I'm just wondering where they like, are you like bumping into it?
	Meet organically.
	Yeah, like, but how?
	Walking around the store.
	Don't nobody talk to you when you go gross dress or a gas station or what?
	Gross dress.
	Oh.
	They slide into the DMs, obviously.
	I mean, that too, but you still get organic when you're walking around.
	People still, I would think that, because you're pretty third.
	Nah, thanks, but no.
	I had someone cat call me outside of 7-Eleven, actually.
	That was nice.
	And again, just like to bring it back, men, if you're watching, bare minimum, bare minimum.
	You don't have to go to the extent that I go.
	You don't have to date women who are sleeping with other men.
	Please let that be your bare minimum standard.
	Do not even go on a first date.
	And I don't recommend even having cat because some of these guys out here are saying, well, if she's hone around, then I'm going to, she's recreational use only.
	No, she's nothing to you.
	You shouldn't even have casual sex with a woman who's fucking other dudes.
	Trust me, dudes.
	It ain't worth it.
	Trust me.
	So your bare minimum standard, even if you're out there for casual sex, John.
	I don't know.
	It's just a little bit.
	Because I'm a thought leader.
	But you can't shame some people for people of one opinion.
	It doesn't work like that.
	I'm the trailblazer here, and I'm fucking.
	I'm doing trailblazing.
	I'm trailblazing.
	Yes, I'm a thought leader.
	Listen, gentlemen, bare minimum.
	Nothing, not even casual sex, with the girl who's fucking other men.
	You'll thank me.
	You'll thank me, gentlemen.
	You'll thank me for it.
	Okay.
	Do you run into the feeder thing?
	What is milkers, you mean?
	Milkers?
	What is the feeders?
	They like want they pay to eat.
	They want you to get.
	Oh, no.
	I've never come across any yet.
	People, actually.
	I just feel like they will one day.
	Here we have.
	Yeah, I mean, that's a phenomenon that I didn't even know existed.
	And until we see a lot of whatever podcasts, I found out.
	Okay, Alexis, you said mostly about the way this generation, you want to talk about how the mostly about the way this generation is.
	Girlfriends of mine who accept so much less.
	Do you care to elaborate on that?
	I mean, I think we've kind of covered it, and we're a little bit off topic there.
	Like, you know, with what else we were talking about.
	Wait, off topic?
	What do you mean?
	If we were continuing the conversation, I just felt like it moved in a different direction.
	I don't know that my prompt was enough to pick it up.
	I'm so glad you're not dating, donated $100.
	LLL, happily married.
	Two kids.
	One on the way.
	Successful business.
	My own property.
	What's up with the ellipse?
	I don't want to worry about what Butler's weekly subscription is going to be after intercourse like you.
	Smiley face.
	So why are you telling us all your rundown, though?
	If you want to butler, by the way, why are you telling us Jay Butler's been here for like 30 consecutive shows?
	All of a sudden, where's the herpes talk?
	You already had it.
	I guess so.
	Someone is deeply offended.
	Find me having a sex slide.
	I'm so sorry about that.
	It's okay.
	Don't worry.
	Alexis, I had my back and forth with her.
	I'm now getting to your notes here, and so I'm shifting gears.
	Yeah.
	So you stated in your pre-show notes, girlfriends of mine who accept so much less.
	Forgive me if you didn't, you talk about, you already talked about that.
	Okay, so what I meant in my pre-show notes, I guess, is it's I guess it was part of a broader, I thought it would be part of a broader conversation, but I guess my main point is that kind of returning to the traditional conversation in what girls who want to follow a traditional path think, they, I think, realign with what guys are willing to give, especially in this generation because of non-traditional lifestyles and because of,
	I think what they've been made to accept is really my point.
	Yeah, I'd say, like, obviously not from me because I don't live the traditional lifestyle on which we have decided.
	But I do have loads of friends who have put up, and even before I got into this job, actually, when I did live the traditional lifestyle at university and all that kind of stuff, people do just kind of almost like want to be with somebody and they'll take it and get treated really badly.
	And I think that is like something that you, it's sad when you see your like best friends go through that because you're like, you're so much better.
	You're so much more worth that than how they're treating you.
	And I feel like some men just don't do it right.
	Well, and I think that it's, you know, I think it's, I think it's on both sides.
	I think that, you know, I see a lot of women not wanting to, you know, they kind of go out.
	I just don't want to be lonely.
	Like, I'd rather be with someone than be lonely.
	And I think that ultimately creates a settling culture.
	And then people see, you know, social media, we have so much at our fingertips.
	We were not supposed to access this many people.
	We were supposed to be part of much smaller groups.
	And I think that it's changed the way that people look at things.
	People statistically have never been lonelier.
	I really don't feel like women's standards are too low.
	Gotta be honest with you.
	No, I feel like some are very high, but I feel like...
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	This is for Alexis to respond to.
	Oh, sorry.
	Yeah, I just don't feel like women's standards are too low.
	If they're settling, they're probably actually not settling.
	They probably are generally probably getting somebody who's equally yoked with them.
	Generally.
	That's what I would, that's been my observation.
	I get what you're saying, and I tend to agree in some part.
	I think that people do get what they set out for and what they, you know, as I said, it's reciprocal.
	But I also think that girls might be giving a lot or think that they're giving a lot or live their life a certain way and then they accept something that's much less than that.
	Well, elaborate on that.
	I think people, you know, I know girls who live a very traditional life and they want to, you know, give everything to their boyfriends and be very faithful and have a lot of integrity and be very trustworthy.
	And I can't say the same about their boyfriends.
	Where are all those women?
	Off of the internet.
	I mean, honestly, like, where are all those women?
	Because right now, what you're talking about, there's guys out there who are watching this who would pay you whatever you wanted in order to go to wherever these women are that you're talking about.
	Well, that's the thing.
	And then maybe that's the disparity.
	They're not on dating apps.
	They're not really on social media.
	They have like social media because they had it in college.
	It's just, you know, that's kind of the thing.
	What's easily acceptable, what's on, you know, readily available on YouTube or OnlyFans or whatever pod.
	You know, it's not necessarily you're getting a hand selection of people who maybe that's not what you're seeing, which I understand.
	I'm not disagreeing with you.
	I do think those women exist, but I do think that a majority of them just get brainwashed by their friends telling them that they don't need a man anymore, that doesn't give you what you want.
	So they just play into this like.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I don't know if I agree on the whole standards too low for women.
	They just have such low stand.
	It seems to be the opposite of what I have.
	Here's the thing: I'm a big advocate for guys.
	I'm not knocking what guys are doing.
	I'm not like the last person who carried the pitchfork on that.
	It's more just, I think it's a generational problem where it perpetuates the issue.
	You see women settling for less, nice guys think that there's a, and I'm not saying it starts there.
	I'm saying it's a circle.
	You know, it starts the nice guy trope of, you know.
	Oh, like, there's no nice guys out there, and then nice guys think they finish last.
	And then there's just, I just feel like there's a lot there being encouraged within the generation.
	I mean, I think so.
	I see it a lot.
	We do man on the streets.
	We talk to people.
	We talk about dating apps a lot.
	It's kind of what you find out there.
	I still don't know what you're finding out there.
	Honestly, I'm still confused.
	What is it that you're finding?
	That there's women who are giving too much of themselves to men or being too faithful.
	I don't actually understand.
	I guess what I'm saying is the way that the generation is sets up how both of the genders are perceived.
	And I'm also going off of something that wasn't a prompt.
	We kind of had a back and forth.
	And I have been, my show notes were very brief.
	And so I'm kind of explaining something that I thought would be a broader conversation.
	And so I'm not really sure.
	Okay.
	I get where you're coming from.
	I get where you're coming from.
	Like, I'm not dissing guys.
	I think that guys often are the winners in this situation.
	I think there are a lot of good guys out there who do feel as though they can't find.
	I think you're right.
	Vice versa.
	Like guys go out that like girls go out there looking for someone.
	They can't find how I sound as I've sat.
	So they lower them in order to get into a relationship.
	It's a never-ending cycle.
	And then there's guys that go out there and they're like, I already, like, they're looking for that traditional woman.
	They kind of can't find her.
	So they find like a less traditional woman and that makes them sad too.
	Yeah, and the internet, I mean, transparently is very sexualized.
	So I think guys think that they need to be doing more.
	Girls think that they need to be doing more.
	They keep one-upping each other until everyone thinks everyone's kinky.
	And it might just all be more normal than we think, but everyone's, it's perpetuated by social media.
	On the standards thing, really quick, Nick, can you pull up in the Dropbox podcast infographics folder?
	It's the hypergamy infographics.
	And Alexis, to tie this back to the rating 1 to 10 question, which you chose to omit answering to, kind of how this is potentially tied into that is that you have, because you're saying that, well, women are lowering their standards or they have low standards for men.
	But I actually think that women have way too high standards.
	Like, I don't think it's an issue of men having these crazy high standards and women having really low standards.
	I mean.
	I agree with you.
	I completely agree.
	I was the one arguing reciprocity earlier and normally standing up for guys.
	I think I was given an out-of-context prompt and nothing to go off of.
	Wait, so are you because these were, you provided that in your pre-show notes, so I'm just going off of what you had written.
	You mentioned, you know, your girlfriends were, I guess, kind of, wait, let me see, I don't want to misquote here, but, you know, you said your girlfriends of mine who accept so much less.
	So it just occurs to me, for example, with the rating scale of the 1 to 10 thing is, you know, a lot of women are kind of have an overinflated sense of self of their own attractiveness or value in the dating marketplace, not their human value, but their value in the dating marketplace.
	And so they have an expectation of partnering with a man who, quite frankly, is out of their league.
	And that's why the actual question of asking someone to rate themselves on a scale of one to 10 is actually very important because if you don't have an accurate self-assessment of where you potentially stand or do stand in the dating marketplace, then you're going to be shooting outside of your league.
	And this is where women get into trouble.
	Because as a man, if I try to have casual sex, if I shoot my shot with a woman who's outside of my league, hey, let's have casual sex.
	That's not verbatim how I would go about it.
	That's my angle.
	I get instant upfront rejection.
	I don't get a conversation with a girl who's out of my league.
	I don't get a date with a girl who's outside my league.
	I certainly don't get sex with a girl who's outside my league.
	Now, here's where women get into trouble.
	As women, men will welcome easy access to sex.
	So as a woman, you can secure sex from men who are outside of your league.
	It can be looks, it could be success, it could be socioeconomic status, whatever it may be.
	You can have a normal woman who's never achieved anything in her life having sex with a man who's at the apex of either looks, status.
	He could be a professional NBA player, NFL player, et cetera, et cetera.
	She could be, no offense, I'm not making a judgment call on here, but she's a nobody, right?
	A nobody girl can go and sleep with an NFL, NBA player, famous rapper, Drake.
	Drake probably fucks a bunch of nobody women, no offense to them.
	They're probably beautiful, but nobody status.
	So now, but they'll never, those women who can sleep with men outside their league are never most likely going to be able to secure commitment from those men.
	So what ends up happening is you have women who they think they're here for women.
	Your league is not the men that you can sleep with.
	Your league is the men that you can get commitment from and who will marry you.
	I wish I'd known that when I was like 14, 15, 16, 17, when I started like, unfortunately, like having sex because Jesus Christ, that made a lot more sense.
	Why I never got boyfriend.
	Well, look, everybody wants the best that they can get.
	So obviously you want to get the hot guy, but here's the problem.
	That hot guy, oh, she, okay, cool.
	I can use her for sex.
	And so, again, that's the way a lot of women get into trouble.
	And here's the difference, right?
	So as a guy, if we can sleep with a girl, we can probably get that girl in a relationship.
	But as a woman, if you can sleep with a man, it's not clear to me if you can get him into a relationship.
	So, and also, we'll sleep with women and just using as a disqualifier just based on looks.
	Just your looks, we will 100% disqualify you from a relationship, but we won't disqualify you from a sexual relationship.
	Whereas for women, it's the opposite.
	So for women, for you to sleep with a man, to have sex with a man, he typically has to be at least attractive enough for you to be in a relationship with him.
	So that's a big differential.
	That's where women get into trouble.
	And that's why the rating question is important because if you don't have a good sense of where you stand, you're going to be aiming for guys outside of your league.
	You're going to get used.
	I also think that women tend to rate themselves off of self-esteem rather than off of physical looks.
	Yeah.
	This is what I've noticed many times is like, obviously there's women who I've seen in this show who have given ridiculous numbers in comparison to how they look.
	And when I ask them why, they basically say it's because for me, it's self-esteem.
	What I'm telling you is the personification of how I feel about me.
	It's my self-esteem.
	That's not really what the question's asking, though.
	But you say he asks, How do you feel about you?
	Like, what do you rate yourself?
	That's what he asked me.
	He didn't say when he asked me clearly, what if I took you to such and such, how would they rate you?
	Clearly, they're going to rate me lower than what I think of me.
	So, I'm not sure if you're a 10.
	I think SIGAP would give you yeah.
	I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna um fraternity.
	She's talking about the oh, no, I'm not gonna um be delusional and be like, hey, you know, everybody thinks I'm this or that.
	And then also, it's for the people who are looking for those type of relationships.
	It's some people who are actually fine with not doing that, being in a relationship.
	For me, the reason why I don't want to be in a relationship, I'm gonna tell you, is because working with the elderly, the people who did have husbands and wives together, somebody dies, you know, first.
	And you are, even though you're not hurt right now, that person is hurt free until they die.
	Some of them even die from heartache.
	But you know this, right?
	Because, you know, my mom, she was a D-O-N, she was direct nursing and elder care her whole life.
	Okay, and you know, the men don't last long, no, they don't.
	The women, though, last forever.
	They just keep going and going and going.
	The guy's like, oh, I'm heartbroke, and he dies.
	No, but the women do too, though.
	The women, my father, not the same as the men.
	Oh, yeah, sometimes.
	Nick, do you have the chart?
	One of the women.
	Do you want hypergamy?
	Hypergamy.
	Hypergamy, what?
	Two or three or four?
	Oh, there's multiple?
	And let me just double-check on that.
	I thought there were.
	Oh, you're right.
	There are different ones.
	So on the left, you have whom men would happily partner with.
	And then you have whom women would happily partner with.
	And this is played out on dating apps.
	So you basically have all women, the majority of women, who are all chasing after the top percentage of men on dating apps.
	Something like an estimated 10% of men on dating apps are being pursued by the overwhelming majority of women, most of whom are trying to date well above what their own looks, prospects, and personalities warrant.
	So damn.
	Yeah.
	I mean, hey, that's for them.
	Me personally, it's a different story for me because I have such a high following.
	So I have a lot of guys who come to me.
	I don't have to go searching for nobody.
	I don't have to get to on a dating app.
	I don't have to do none of that because they're going to come and they're going to inbox me.
	They're going to want me.
	I just don't want them in that way because I totally agree with you or what you guys are saying.
	Like, if you feel that way, I don't want you to be in my circle.
	If you feel like I'm disgusting, why would I want to be with you?
	Why would I want you to say that?
	You did say that.
	You said what you do is disgusting.
	No, don't put words in my mouth.
	You did.
	You did.
	No, Yeah, she did.
	I'm fairly confident I didn't say you guys are disgusting.
	No, she said what you said.
	You said what we do.
	No, we do.
	No, I don't think I said that.
	You were talking about the porn.
	He was talking specifically.
	Hang on.
	I'm really not gaslighting you.
	I remember the conversation.
	Well, we could watch it back later on.
	Yeah, but he was talking about his dating standards.
	And he said, if you're having sex with another guy, no, we're talking about the people who do porn.
	He was saying people who do porn should not deal with us because we have sex with multiple people and he feels it's disgusting.
	That's what he said.
	No, that was him.
	Oh.
	I mean, I did use the word.
	Okay, here's what I'm saying.
	Pretty sure.
	No, no, Okay.
	Look, we've had a long conversation.
	It's been a long day.
	I'm pretty certain what I said was the thought of me sleeping with a woman who's sleeping with other men is disgusting.
	That's what I heard.
	That's the way I typically frame my argument.
	Maybe I heard it wrong.
	Maybe we'd have to go back, but yes, the thought of having sex or dating a woman who's sleeping with other men, yes, that is.
	I'm sorry, it's disgusting.
	That's okay for you.
	You don't have to be sorry because you feel that way, and it's okay to feel that way.
	That is disgusting to you because that's your perspective, and that's what you like.
	So, you sleeping with men is not disgusting.
	But if I was dating a woman and she was sleeping with other men while I was having sex with her, yes, that's disgusting.
	Right.
	And you are fucking disgusting.
	You should be able to express yourself that way.
	I didn't feel that way.
	That's the person you're going to be with.
	You feel what I'm saying?
	I feel it.
	I'm already listening.
	My porn is already out there.
	There's never going to change that I haven't had my porn out there.
	So I just have to go with what it is.
	Like, I'm not going to set myself up for stupidity.
	Toothpaste back in the tube.
	Exactly.
	And look, you'll find the guy.
	There's guys out there that are fine with it.
	It's fine.
	It's fine.
	That's literally what I'm trying to say.
	Women don't want to date me because I'm got a podcast.
	It's fine.
	I get it.
	I accept it.
	I accept it.
	You should see my DMs.
	Holy shit, they don't like the podcast.
	All right.
	A question for you, though.
	If you mind, would you be friends?
	Wait, what's that next?
	I want to call it the other hyper.
	No, it's okay.
	Would you be friends, like close friends, with a p-star?
	Would I be if it like an actual proper friend, you know, like someone you go for drinks with?
	No.
	Fair?
	Wow.
	I could have a professional relationship with the woman who, you know, I invite them on my show.
	And some of them I invite back on, and I have a courteous, professional, working relationship with them.
	I mean, I'm typically friendship, though.
	Right.
	I'm typically not friends.
	And honestly, I'm a bit of a lone wolf, so my friend's circle is already very insulated and small to begin with.
	I'm going to be honest.
	I mean, I'm not really, I don't have any female friends.
	Fair.
	No, that's fair.
	I was just curious.
	Like, would you, though?
	Yeah, like, if you got on with them really well and they were just.
	I feel like we would, there's such a difference.
	I well, you met like playing a small Warcraft and then like found out that she was a little bit more than that.
	I don't play any video games, but if I used to, but I quit.
	It's possible I could be friends with a woman, but like you have to understand how much of a lone wolf I am.
	Like, and I'm so busy.
	Like, I don't even have a lot of time for male friends.
	So, is it possible?
	It's like, maybe not.
	I could be friends with a woman.
	I could.
	I don't have any, but I could.
	It would probably.
	The thing is, is that when it comes to friendships with the opposite sex, there is, when it comes to when you eventually have a long-term relationship, there is some degree of impropriety, I think.
	No, there's always a complication, isn't there?
	Like, some people, like, there's always going to be a one of the party that's either.
	But, like, to me, for example, let's say I genuinely wanted to be platonic friends with a woman, but I know that she could in the future meet a man who is going to say, you can't be friends with this person.
	So why would I invest and develop a friendship where there's a very good likelihood that if she gets romantically involved with a man or marries a man, he's going to view our friendship as troublesome or problematic, and that's going to be the destruction of our friendship.
	So why even bother building one?
	Now, listen, I think I can have female acquaintances and professional relationships with women.
	Like for example, if I was dating a girl and she had a male best friend and I'm trying to take her serious, I'm like, you can't be hanging out alone with that dude.
	You can't hang out alone with that guy.
	Oh, interesting.
	You can't be friends with your exes.
	Yeah, that's a.
	So it's this impropriety.
	So look, and maybe I'm friends with a woman and her boyfriend or husband doesn't have issue with our friendship.
	It's possible, but again, why would I want to invest time and energy into developing a friendship with someone where it's like she could meet a dude and the dude's like, yo, what the fuck?
	You can't be like friends with this person.
	So, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Interesting.
	Yeah, but I'll be friendly with, I would be friendly with, you know.
	Yeah.
	Treat him like a co-worker.
	Yeah, a co-worker.
	Well, I feel like as well, when you get into like so much social media stuff, you actually don't really have time for anything else other than just like associations through like business and like networking.
	There's no busy anyways for real.
	Okay, let's see here.
	We got, sorry, I'm sorry, I'm going to fuck up your name.
	Malik.
	Okay, you said you're conservative slash moderate.
	You said you once went on a date with a guy who used to have a crush on your older sister.
	Do you want to tell us the story on that quick?
	I haven't had any crazy date experiences.
	That was just an awkward one I thought of.
	A guy asked me out on a date.
	It was really awkward.
	He went on a rant about how he used to have a crush on my older sister.
	I informed him she's now engaged.
	And it just, it wasn't good.
	And we then proceeded to hang out for like another five, six hours and just went downhill the entire time.
	Okay.
	You said another guy asked you out to a movie.
	What was the awkward movie story?
	So I went to his house.
	We drove there together in his car.
	This was an hour away from where I lived.
	During the credits, I don't know.
	He just got upset and left, like left the theater.
	We were the only ones there, drove off, and I ended up calling his sister to pick me up.
	Oh, wow.
	Because I was stranded there and I called her.
	Was it the first date?
	No, it was like a third or fourth date, I think.
	Really?
	Was it good before the...
	Not really.
	Wait.
	Well, why did you keep going on dates then?
	I don't know.
	I wanted to believe he was a good person because there wasn't necessarily anything wrong with him as a person.
	He was just very immature.
	And I kind of wanted to give him a chance.
	But I think he made a comment like, oh, see if you can find my last name in the credits.
	And I replied, oh, that's boring.
	And he just stormed off.
	Wait, wait, hold on.
	The story develops.
	So he was in the movie.
	Yes, we watched the whole movie.
	And so he was.
	No, he was not an actor.
	We were sitting at the theater.
	Oh, but he was credited.
	No, when the credits were playing, he said, see if you can find, like, he had a common last name.
	He said, see if you can find my last name.
	And I said, that's boring.
	And he got really triggered by me finding that to be boring, which it wasn't.
	So he wasn't actually in the credits.
	No, he wasn't.
	He had a common last name, and it was like, oh, let's play a game of.
	Yeah.
	Let's see if we can find our name.
	But who sticks around for the credits anymore?
	Little Bandien.
	Little Bandi Ann.
	Oh, okay, okay.
	He left, and he stormed off.
	He dropped.
	How did you say it?
	So, okay, how did you say it?
	That's boring.
	I just said it's boring.
	I don't know.
	I probably left.
	He probably wanted to be like, I think guys want to be viewed kind of, huh?
	I don't know if this is the right phrasing, but he wants to be viewed as like the superhero in your life.
	And I know that's a bit of an exaggeration, but like he probably didn't feel respected in that moment.
	Granted, like he kind of sounds like a pussy, like roll with the punches a little bit.
	But maybe you like said it in a kind of like, men want to feel respected, right?
	And you could have probably obliged him, I guess.
	I guess, but we're just big.
	But he's also kind of a pussy.
	Yeah, I was.
	I don't know.
	I think any respectable man.
	And he left.
	He like stormed out.
	He just left you an hour away from your house.
	Yeah.
	Drove off left.
	Yeah.
	That's a little big P. Whoa, Say that?
	What are you talking about?
	Big P energy.
	But you're saying that sarcastically.
	Like, he's got little D energy.
	Is that?
	Yeah.
	Wait, hold on.
	First off, I don't know if LPE is in the chat.
	I object to these terms, big D energy and little energy.
	It's funny, though, but here, let me make my case here.
	Let me make my argument.
	So, if it's okay to use the terms big D energy or more specifically little D energy, well, it should also be okay to say loose pussy energy.
	I knew you were going to be small titty energy.
	I'm actually a fan of small titties, but that's not dumb skank energy.
	No, that's my favorite.
	Cavernous Vag energy, stinky pussy energy.
	If it's okay to, you know, use this term little D energy, we should also be okay with an issue with y'all calling us loose.
	Yeah, you know, definitely called us loose, so I ain't gonna pay for that, I don't know if it was you.
	No, somebody said loose.
	Not loose pussy, just like loose.
	But that's what is loose then?
	What is loose?
	Loose with your morals.
	Oh, okay.
	That's okay.
	I'll do that.
	Okay.
	Let's go.
	You know, I don't think.
	But we didn't get offended.
	Okay.
	Well, okay.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow, drop us a prime sub.
	Subscribe to our second clips, the whatever second clips channel, trying to get one million subs.
	We're 75k away.
	Check it out, guys.
	Okay, wait, so the movie theater thing.
	I haven't had really any cra I've been on like four first dates ever.
	Like I said, I don't really have time for dating, so I don't have any like crazy, outrageous.
	I fucked a guy in front of his entire family in a basement story.
	Oh, I don't know.
	What about that time?
	Not you.
	What about that time that old creepy dude tried to give you a car on the internet who currently lives in an RV who's, you know, which one?
	Well, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I'm not going to name names.
	We're not going to name names.
	They shall not be named.
	Which one is this?
	What about the time that guy on the internet tried to give you a car and then told you you could sleep in his bed?
	And if you came and visited him.
	Wait, what?
	What?
	What about that?
	Why do you even know that?
	What?
	Okay.
	Wait.
	Where are you getting this from?
	So we've collaborated before on YouTube.
	Oh, I didn't know that.
	I had no idea.
	Wait, you guys should have told me that you guys.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And so the person we collaborated with, I used to do a show with him where real sick fuck this guy, by the way.
	He would.
	Wait, who?
	I'm not, can't name him.
	Yeah, we're not.
	They shall not be named.
	I don't know who that is.
	I don't know who it is.
	Should I name the person's name?
	No.
	Don't even name any of it.
	Okay.
	So, yeah, there's another creator on YouTube that hosts shows.
	I don't know who he is.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm not part of it.
	I'm not part of this.
	I don't know who they're talking about.
	So, yeah, the two of us met.
	Andrew and I met on a collaboration with another creator.
	And on that person's show, they would bring on a lot of men, especially older men or more lonely men, and basically coach them how to have social interactions, how to interact with women, about patriarchy, feminism, all that.
	And there was a couple individuals that were brought on the show to interact with me.
	And they ended up just being weird dudes on the internet, as you would assume.
	And one of them in particular, old, old, old guy who may or may not have a sexual relationship with his daughter.
	Whoa.
	But he was interested in me.
	And after I rejected him, obviously, he was trying to entice me to drive to his house to get a free car.
	The only requirement was I had to sleep in his before he even said the requirements.
	I was like, no, I don't want anything to do with you.
	I don't want your money.
	I don't want your cars.
	And yeah, that just got taken out of context.
	That discussion got on a bunch of other creators' shows, and it was just dragged through a lot.
	I guess speculation on whether or not I just said no for the camera and then accepted the car.
	But no, it was an absolutely.
	Wait, I don't know if I want the whatever podcast to be like the gossip.
	I don't know if I want the picture.
	It was creepy.
	I'll tell you.
	No, he was extremely creepy.
	And like I said, there's other speculations.
	Wait, is this already publicly out there?
	Yeah, it's because I don't want to be the channel that's like.
	No, no, no.
	This is old.
	This is no.
	It's publicly been discussed.
	There is much.
	It's a whole rabbit hole.
	Hours and hours.
	I don't want to be part of it.
	All right.
	I think, oh, you said also, modern dating is pathetic.
	Expectations are too high, standards too low.
	Above average men telling below average men how to get multiple women while also saying all women are 3-0 foes and then being a 3-0 foe is too normalized, etc.
	Wait, so you said expectations are too high, standards too low.
	For men, for women, for both?
	What care to expand and elaborate?
	Oh, me?
	Yes, girl.
	I'm sorry.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	So can you just restate my point?
	The fuck do you know what?
	I was thinking about how I want to eat a banana.
	Expectations.
	Not in a sexual way.
	What a traditional thing to say.
	So, no, I just, when I do shows or live streams, I like to banners.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Modern dating is pathetic.
	Expectations are too high and standards too low.
	Above average men telling below average men how to get multiple women while also saying all women are 30 foes.
	Being a 300 is normalized.
	Let's start with expectations are too high and standards too low.
	Met for men, for women, for both.
	Okay.
	So I think.
	So men's expectations are too high out.
	Yes.
	Men have expectations that women are going to be virgins and not have exes and not be tarnished and be perfect.
	And they themselves may not work on.
	This isn't every, just I think generalized.
	Sure.
	When they themselves may not take care of themselves, they may not, they may want a stay-at-home wife, but not be financially or mentally able to even sustain that.
	Yep, you should, if you want a stay-at-home wife, you should probably be able to provide for it.
	Agree there.
	And then where I said the above-average men telling below-average men how to get women, you see a lot of shows, including yours, where you're stating to ideally below-average men who are looking up to you for advice.
	What evidence do you have that the men who are watching the show are below average?
	Not this show particularly, but a lot of men that watch dating shows or podcasts.
	How would you know?
	Like, they may very well be below average, but how would you know?
	I've interacted with the audiences of multiple.
	You've interacted with whatever viewers.
	I said not this podcast specifically.
	But I don't know how you would know they're below average.
	She's talking about like pickup channels and shit like that, right?
	Yeah, like pickup channels and all that.
	They watch these above-average men.
	This is a whole different scenario, though, man.
	Like, this is people tune into the whatever podcast, not really for dating advice.
	They're looking for the.
	Yeah, I don't really give dating advice.
	They're really actually looking for kind of the interpersonal exchange that people are having, that men and women are having, so that they can understand the different worldviews and purviews.
	I wasn't saying to the whatever podcast.
	And I just want to say, all my patrons and supporters and all the TTS, those guys are above average.
	Yeah.
	Well, join the club.
	In my message, I did not state the whatever podcast because I just think there's a lot of internet outlets of above average men using Andrew Taya as an example where they preach to men who probably aren't above average and they tell these men to get these above average women and how to get these above average women.
	It just turns into a cycle of the men being insecure because they won't amount to that and then lowering their standards below what they should just have desperation and being lonely.
	And then it cycles back to women not being able to find good quality men, lowering their standards.
	Like Alexis was saying before, it's just a cycle of men and women not shading with their standards.
	Well, a couple things there.
	So, first off, below average men can't get multiple women.
	Below average men can't even get below average women because of the chart.
	I don't know if you're able to pull it back up, Nick.
	Because of basically the rampant hypergamy that's going on today.
	Did you close it out?
	Oh, I know I didn't.
	But that's why a lot of times.
	So this is the women on the right, men on the left, who men would happily partner with, who women would happily partner with.
	Look, that's not, of course, below-average people end up with below-average people, but there's a decent cohort of men who are getting absolutely zeroed out of the dating marketplace.
	But so it's not clear to me if below average men are even interested in getting multiple women.
	I think a lot of them would be happy with just a girlfriend who's on his level in his league and just having a monogamous relationship.
	I think that's the case for most men.
	I do agree with that.
	I just find that a lot of times their expectations are higher than their own rankings.
	Well, I agree with you.
	I think it's both ways.
	I agree with you that there are other people out there in the content creation space who are saying, well, you should have multiple women and da And like the reality is, most men are going to be culture as an audience.
	Most men are not going to be able to maneuver, like are not going to be able to have that kind of arrangement with getting multiple women.
	And I think a lot of them don't want to.
	So, but yeah, I agree with you.
	But you said expectations are too high, and you also mentioned, well, men wanting women who are virgins.
	Is that like too high of an expectation?
	I think, not that there's anything wrong with that, but if a man has a high body count and only wants to date or sleep with virgins, I find it creepy, honestly.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, we can get into that.
	I find it, no, I do, because if you yourself are not saving yourself for marriage and it's not like a religious thing where you think you can sleep with whoever's going to be aware of it, it becomes a religious thing.
	But you, I mean, it's kind of too late for that.
	No, it's kind of not.
	So a woman can sleep.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	A woman can sleep with 100 men and then wait till marriage.
	Let's back up.
	They do.
	But let's back up real quick.
	Okay.
	Let's start with.
	You say, well, if it's not a religious thing, what if it becomes a religious thing?
	I'm not saying it can't become a religious thing.
	Is it creepy then?
	But if a man has a body count of 100 just using a random number and only wants women who are virgins, I find that very creepy and almost predatory.
	What if he gets a virgin?
	Well, hang on.
	So let's say he gets to 100.
	Okay.
	Gets to 100, converts to Christianity, I want to get married to a virgin, but I'm not going to sleep with her before we're married.
	Is that still creepy?
	Why would you want to virgin?
	To answer the question, is it still creepy?
	I do think it's still creepy that I find it almost fetishizing the fact that she's a virgin.
	Even if you said that.
	Why would it be a fetish?
	So I just don't see the requirements.
	Isn't that under the purview of his religious belief?
	Okay, if you want someone with a low body count or someone who also wants to wait for marriage.
	Why not a virgin?
	That's the lowest body count.
	Okay, why?
	Why do you want that?
	Well, what if he's doing it via divine command?
	What if they think it's divine command?
	But you yourself were not.
	Or didn't say I was, but I'm asking about divine command.
	It's not hypocritical.
	Where's the hypocrisy?
	It's being hypocritical because you yourself are not a virgin and you're only looking to marry despite whether or not she's had 100 bodies in the past and now it's saying I'll wait till marriage for my 101st body.
	What you've just done is made an argument from hypocrisy, which is a fallacy, right?
	So can you make the argument not from hypocrisy and give me an actual argument for why that's in any way, shape, or form wrong?
	I never said it's wrong.
	You said it was predatory and creepy.
	Well, okay.
	Well, predatory sounds pretty wrong.
	Okay, I do think it's a little off if a man wants a virgin and they themselves were not in the past.
	Yeah, you find what your preference is.
	Because it's just saying my preference, but there's no real argument.
	When men think of virgins, they typically think of the adjectives innocent, young, virtuous, virtuous, fine, pure.
	So men who find virtue are not allowed to go for maximum virtue.
	Check that.
	Before I answer that, before I answer that.
	If there was a woman who, let's just say not even 100, 10 bodies, right?
	She has 10 bodies.
	She said, you know what?
	I found God.
	I'm going to wait till marriage for the rest.
	And that same man who has had 100 bodies and now has reformed and found God and wants to wait till marriage automatically disqualifies her just for the fact that she is not a virgin.
	What's he doing wrong?
	You don't find that creepy at all.
	What's he doing wrong?
	He's not necessarily doing anything wrong with the mother.
	Okay, so hang on.
	Hang on.
	He's not doing anything wrong.
	He's not doing anything immoral.
	He's also doing something which is maximum virtue from your purview.
	So tell me, why do you find it creepy outside of it?
	Just gives me the ick.
	It's the same instance.
	Oh, no.
	Anything besides it just gives me the ick.
	I will.
	Okay, okay.
	Can I ask you another question before I continue?
	Do you find a 40-year-old man sleeping with an 18-year-old woman to be creepy?
	Don't give a flying fuck.
	Not even a little.
	I personally find that creepy and predatory.
	Do you think she should vote?
	That's a whole other discussion.
	Oh, wait a second.
	You don't want this dumb chick who these evil predators can just come and mangle her brain.
	You don't want them to be able to.
	Hang on.
	You don't want them to be able to vote and then cancel out the well-informed vote of 40-year-old men, do you?
	Why does any 40-year-old men, you're halfway through your life, want to have sex with someone fresh out of high school or maybe still in high school?
	Well, okay.
	Who gives a shit?
	Yeah, who gives a shit?
	Why is it that 18-year-old women should be allowed to vote?
	I never said they should or shouldn't.
	Should 21-year-olds be allowed to vote?
	I think that high schoolers maybe should not vote.
	Even at 18?
	That's a whole, yeah, a lot of 18-year-olds are still in high school or just graduating.
	So then why not just advocate this instead?
	Instead of saying, I find it creepy, the age gap, right?
	Yes.
	Why not just say, I want to raise the age of consent to 21?
	Because I don't think the age of consent should be raised to 21.
	Right, okay, so just the age of consent between too much of an age gap.
	How much is the age gap that you think is too much?
	What's that equation divided by two plus seven or something?
	So that's just all ick, though.
	Isn't that just all ick?
	I don't think.
	So like, can a 40-year-old man hook up with a 70-year-old woman?
	Can he marry a 70-year-old woman?
	Is that too much of an age gap?
	They can.
	I think an 18-year-old is a child.
	I think anyone under 25 does not have a fully developed brain.
	Then why are they fucking allowed to vote and join the military and do all this other fucking shit?
	Why can they buy cigarettes?
	Why can't they buy beer?
	Why can't they drive cars?
	What are you doing?
	18-year-olds cannot buy beer.
	No, you say up until 25.
	Their brains aren't fully developed.
	They're all restrictions.
	So why don't you go ahead and get a lot of money?
	All restrictions are basically gone.
	Smoking cars?
	No, at 25.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Back up, back up, back up.
	First of all, at 21 years old, basically all restrictions are off the table, right?
	There's very few that aren't there.
	And when it comes to getting a car, that's because of insurance purposes.
	25-year-olds have way more experience driving.
	That's why.
	It's fairly simple, right?
	It seems like 25-year-olds have much more life experience.
	Yeah, but here's the question, right?
	Why is it that a 40-year-old and 18-year-old can't make the decision to get married?
	Right?
	Hang on, hang on, or hook up or whatever it is they want to do, right?
	But the 18-year-old can nullify the vote of the 40-year-old if you think that the disparity in their brains are that bad.
	You keep bringing up the voting argument when I never mentioned voting.
	I know I mentioned it because I'm giving you an analogy for why your argument's absurd.
	I'm giving you an analogy by pointing out this thing over here exists and is fine because Schrödinger's feminist who can both vote and is a girl boss and is an ass kick could do everything at 18 years old, suddenly is matched up with an evil 40-year-old Sith Lord who just wants to mangle her fucking brain so he can sleep with her.
	Is she competent enough to deal with this?
	This ass-kicking feminist, or do we need to raise the age of consent so that this hyper-predatory Sith Lord can't mangle her brain?
	Most 40-year-old men at some point in their life, when they're younger, had a child that is probably 18 or older.
	So if you are at an age where you're sleeping with a woman the age of potentially your own daughter, I find that extremely predatory and creepy.
	Well, I find it predatory that that woman could be sleeping with a man the age of her father.
	You can't even.
	What a sick bitch.
	You can't.
	What a sick bitch.
	You can't.
	Take that bitch to prison.
	Oh, my God.
	You can't even have a serious conversation.
	That's a serious argument.
	It's as serious of an argument as your argument.
	I can't believe he's sleeping with them at the age of his daughter.
	I can't believe she's sleeping with someone the age of her father.
	I stated the fact that men specifically want younger women.
	And I just stated that in this case, the younger woman must also want the man.
	I agree, and I think that's weird, okay?
	But there's a completely different aspect of that.
	This makes no sense.
	What are you talking about?
	If she wants it and he wants it, your problem is just it gives me the ick.
	So let's let's.
	Just say it gives you the ick.
	You're never going to win this argument.
	So there's an 18-year-old with a body count of 100, and she finds a 40-year-old virgin dude, and she wants to train him to be her husband and to take care of him and look after him and all that.
	I mean, everyone has their own cup of tea, but that's weird.
	Why would an 18-year-old.
	What do you mean, train him?
	She's an adult.
	She can make her own discussion.
	Most 40-year-old men who are looking for virgins or 18, 19-year-old women want to train them how to be their woman.
	That's why they go for the innocent young woman.
	Oh.
	They don't want someone with prior experience.
	Oh, and so why are those younger women going for those older men?
	It's typically the men who go for the younger women.
	But why are those women going for you?
	Because the older men have convinced them because they're young and no, I think that the younger women just want their fucking resources and are using their beauty in order to entice them so they can take all their shit.
	You tell me why I'm wrong and you're right.
	I didn't say you're not wrong, but I don't.
	So what makes you right?
	I'm just making the point that I think men's older men focusing on wanting virgins is very creepy.
	Well, I think that younger women.
	The fact that younger women will entice these 40-year-old men to take their resources, I think that's creepy.
	I don't know why you're so defensive.
	If you were a married woman, oh my God, what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
	What does that have to do with anything?
	Can you answer yes or no?
	What?
	What was the question?
	If you're an unmarried man, would you want to have sex with an 18-year-old woman?
	No, I wouldn't.
	That wouldn't be my preference because it's not my preference.
	But if it were, I wouldn't see anything wrong with it.
	And you wouldn't either.
	You have no moral argument, not a single one.
	You have not a single argument that you've given thus far other than it's fucking icky.
	Now, when you're ready to give me an argument, and I'm going to sit here and wait.
	I gave you an argument.
	Hang on, I'm going to wait.
	Just because you dismissed them, hang on, hang on.
	I'm going to wait to hear anything other than it gives me the ick.
	Go ahead.
	I said there is a high likelihood that that man might have a daughter the same age as this woman he wants to have sex with.
	So?
	That is morally wrong.
	Why?
	Because she feels like it.
	Why?
	That is wrong.
	Why?
	Because a man should not be sexualizing a woman his daughter's age.
	What if his daughter's 30?
	Wait, can I jump in on this?
	What if his daughter's 30?
	Oh my god.
	If his daughter's, honestly, if you think it's okay to fuck.
	What if he's 50 and his daughter's 30 and she brings a friend home who's also 30?
	Is he fucking creep?
	I find that, yes.
	Why is that immoral again?
	It's okay.
	I will say it is my opinion.
	It is my opinion.
	It's ick.
	Base.
	Just say it's ick.
	Why?
	Just take the L and say the ick.
	It's not taking an L. Just take the L and say, it's the ick, Andrew.
	I have zero arguments at all.
	Just say it.
	I stated multiple arguments.
	I said her brain is not fully developed.
	She is young, probably fresh out of high school.
	She does not have nearly as much life experience.
	That man is old enough to be her father.
	So is it immoral?
	I find it immoral.
	Okay, so let's start again.
	We'll start with the first one.
	Give me the one argument you think where it's immoral.
	Let's start with that one.
	Go ahead.
	I find it immoral and hypocritic to.
	You can't make an argument from hypocrisy.
	It's vallacious, so that's dismissed.
	But you can go ahead and make a different argument, which is moral.
	Do that.
	Yes, it is morally wrong if you are an older man who has had multiple sexual partners to only be interested in innocent, pure young women to want to train them to be yours and potentially manipulate them.
	Great being yours.
	Why?
	Is that immoral?
	That's not always the intent to manipulate.
	Why is that immoral?
	Yeah.
	For the 800th time, why?
	I said it is an opinion when it comes to the...
	Then that's not...
	It's just your opinion?
	It's immoral.
	Yes, your moral argument is it's my opinion.
	Sure, we'll say that.
	Sure.
	I'm going to go have a cigarette.
	Can I remember that?
	A lot of people agree.
	I will take over.
	I'm going to take over from there.
	If you want to take a seat, our good Chilean soldier.
	I'll engage with you on the debate, though.
	So, okay.
	So you think an 18-year-old woman cannot consent to sex with a man?
	You used to be a bad person.
	I never stated that.
	But you were making the argument that they aren't, their brains, I don't even know if this is true, that their brains are not fully developed.
	Your brain is not fully developed until you're 25.
	Yes, that is true.
	Okay, so because their brain is not developed until they're 25, they should not what?
	The argument wasn't even about age at first.
	It turned into that.
	It was about virginity.
	It was about virginity.
	I said, I don't know why.
	You're the one who brought being young into it.
	Because a woman could be 25 and 30, and she could be actually, funnily enough, next week we have a 39 and a 40-year-old virgin woman coming on the show.
	So you can be a virgin and be in your late 20s, 30s.
	We can divergence.
	People can be a virgin at any point.
	Yes, absolutely.
	But you brought the young thing, the young thing.
	It was more of a question versus a debate.
	I was trying to understand why do men idolize.
	By the way, Andrew's cracking up.
	But I wish we had a camera.
	Andrew's cracking up out there.
	Oh, no, you're good.
	I'm just telling them you're we see you cracking up out there.
	It's not what she said.
	Okay, something else.
	Okay.
	We're laughing at Malik.
	I don't know why men idolize and glorify virgins and young women, especially considering if they are older or have high.
	I kind of get that to a degree because you obviously have this grooming culture.
	Oh my God, it's not grooming to desire a partner with a low body count.
	No, no, no.
	I'm not saying that they go hand in hand.
	I'm saying that a small minority of people that do go looking for a small body count do and do.
	Do you think the majority of men who prefer women with a low body count or who prefer virgins are grooming women?
	No, that's why I said a small minority.
	Let's just remove that off the table because it's kind of an exceptional scenario.
	And grooming is a very specific term here.
	Okay.
	So wait, I want to engage with you a little bit on this.
	So you said that people are not, their brains are not fully developed until they're the age of 25, right?
	Yes.
	So do you think that, and you think this is the case for both men and women?
	Or is it just women who are, you know.
	I mean, you can fact check me.
	I believe that's a lot of people.
	No, but you think this applies more so to women because typically men tend to have more of a preference towards younger keyword women.
	And I think it's typically not the case for women to prefer younger men.
	I mean, I think it could be a lot of people.
	So do you think we should prefer?
	You see it more in the man being older.
	Okay, so given the fact that you said that women should not be, I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say here, but you're saying that, well, this is not okay because their brains are not developed until they're 25.
	Andrew already asked you this, but do you think we should roll back voting rights for women until they're 25?
	I think 25 is a bit steep for that.
	So you think we should raise the vote?
	But I wouldn't be opposed to for just women or for both men and women?
	For both men and women.
	I wouldn't be opposed to raising the minimum wage.
	However, for men, since men can be drafted at 18, I don't think it's fair to draft them and not have them be able to vote.
	So can an 18-year-old man is it creepy for him to go for a 40-year-old woman then?
	But if no, but if a 40-year-old woman goes for an 18-year-old man, I do find that creepy.
	I mean, that's just one of Amber Rose right now.
	Wait, so if the younger one goes for the older one, that's not creepy?
	Not necessarily.
	So then this is not a moral argument at all.
	This is just you got the ick.
	Right?
	It's just you got the ick.
	But can you explain to me why men desire young, pure virgins?
	Well, yes, I can, actually.
	And I can lay it out the best possible way.
	One, men value fertility.
	Two, the reason that they want women who have a low body count is because, until recently, technology has made it possible for us to determine whether or not the offspring that we have is actually ours.
	Before that, what determined whether or not the offspring was ours?
	So what if.
	Hang on.
	Before that, what determined if the offspring was ours?
	What would be the best way for you to determine your offspring was actually...
	If you had sex with that person.
	Exclusively, right?
	And so promiscuity and multiple sex partners would definitely lower your kind of ability to know whether or not the offspring was sexual.
	But that's actually yours.
	Because if you find a woman who in the past had under five sexual partners, hasn't slept with anyone in years, a lot of men would still disqualify her from being in a romantic relationship just because she's not a virgin.
	Yeah, but you're asking.
	And that's what I'm asking.
	So you're making two bizarre distinctions, though.
	You're asking why would men be attracted to ex, right?
	Versus the descriptor of there's lots of men who, if you had X behavior, would push that aside.
	I can understand why they're attracted to virgins, but specifically, even if the bycount's one, two, three, it's a hard no.
	Well, again, I think that's a lot of men's standards.
	It is a considerable amount.
	But let's just say it was all of their standards.
	Like all men, that was their standards, right?
	That old, I don't know, no hymen, no diamond, or whatever, right?
	No, that's all women, no diamonds.
	That's all of their standards.
	It would still actually make sense as to why, because a woman who's a virgin and you're the person who, you know, takes that, you know what I mean, through marriage or whatever, your assurance of your offspring actually being yours is what percentage?
	It would be 100%.
	That's it.
	Now you know mystery solved.
	If she has not had children in the past, how is that relevant?
	Well, because with every single news.
	Because with every new sexual partner, you're not having new.
	She is married.
	I understand.
	I'm trying to give you the rundown.
	With every new sexual partner that she's had, men intuitively understand that her pair bonding goes down.
	And so what they're worried about is due to the promiscuity that she'd be more likely to step out.
	Now, even that percentage could be low, super low.
	But you know who's the lowest with?
	Who's it the lowest with?
	It is the lowest with virgins.
	It is the lowest with virgins.
	And how would you assure that your offspring 100% was yours?
	If you have an exclusive relationship, it has nothing to do with virginity.
	Yeah, but it does.
	Because again, with promiscuity, because with promiscuity.
	I'm not saying this woman's promiscuity.
	Yes, but with every new body count that a woman is.
	She's not having new bodies.
	She's just old.
	Yeah, but with every new body count that she has, her ability to parabond lowers.
	So your ability to note whether she's stepping out on you or not lessens significantly.
	I'll read this simple, right?
	Oh, okay.
	Young girls are basically, you can tell as soon as they open their mouth and say something, you're basically a P word.
	You're fetishizing her youth and innocence.
	I think that she's fetishizing.
	I agree with that.
	I think that she's fetishizing your experience and resources.
	16-year-old is a high schooler.
	They're basically a child.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	You agree with, you think men who are attracted to women who are 18 or 19 are P-words?
	I didn't say P-words.
	You said you agree with you.
	I defined it.
	I'll say for it.
	I'll make you happy.
	I find it icky.
	Yeah, there you go.
	I find it icky that men more than double a high schooler's age want to have sex or get married to her.
	And I don't find it icky.
	So now what do we do with this?
	I find you icky.
	Yeah, I find you ickier.
	So now what do we do with this?
	Honestly, we just, we have a difference of opinions.
	We don't do anything with it.
	We don't do anything with it.
	So who gives a shit?
	But this, okay, this all started from first we were talking about virginity.
	You brought youth into this conversation.
	Again, let's assume that the woman's 25 or 30 and she's a virgin.
	So does it, is it, for example, is it icky for a 35-year-old to want to date a 25-year-old virgin?
	Is that icky?
	No, I don't find it icky.
	However, when men typically want virgins, they don't say, I want a virgin older than 25.
	I think they would be happy.
	I mean, virgin is probably more important than age.
	Say they want a one at 24.
	Like, I don't get the problem here.
	Let them find a 24-year-old virgin.
	I think I'd prefer to, I would certainly prefer.
	It just feels almost like a fetish in some instances.
	It just feels, like, to me, feels like.
	Whatever men, men are basically not allowed to have preferences, standards, and boundaries.
	It's always demonized or pathologized.
	When men have something.
	I think it should be demonized for older men.
	are allowed to have preferences women are allowed to what Women are allowed to have preferences.
	You mean college-age women.
	Okay, but a lot of where I say.
	Yeah, but a lot of them are college-age, too.
	Okay.
	But all that matters is that some could be in high school.
	But you see how disingenuous.
	Do you see how disengaged?
	No, no, no, no, hold on.
	But they would, it's funny to me how they'll always use a woman who's, she's in high school, she's 18, she must be in high school or she's a teenager.
	Bear in mind, 13, 14, 50.
	Like, that's also a teenager.
	But you're going to use like a 19-year-old woman is technically a teenager, but you use very specific language to kind of give it the marketing spin of like, no, but you're using language to try to paint it in the most unflattering, bad light way.
	Because I do find it to be negative.
	Okay, so what's the oldest a 19-year-old woman could date?
	What's the oldest?
	I don't know.
	She's a teenager, right?
	What's the oldest a 19-year-old woman can date without it being true?
	She could date whoever she wants, but if she dates at a certain age, I'm going to find it fucking icky.
	Just say it.
	Just go ahead.
	I said, I don't think this goes both ways.
	If 19-year-olds are attracted to older men, that's just them being young and dumb.
	If older men are specifically, they don't know.
	They're 19.
	They don't know what life is like.
	So you're basically saying like an 18-year-old adult is incompetent in making decisions.
	Yes.
	Which is exactly why we shouldn't consider 18-year-olds then to be adults.
	I was 18 literally in college, so you're saying like at 17, a lot of 17-year-olds at that age are picking their futures.
	If he donated $100, age gaps should be viewed by percentage of age.
	Men shouldn't be more than 20% older than a woman.
	Women shouldn't be 5% older than man.
	Anything outside of this is creepy or 20-year-olds.
	By the way, you put that in quotes, creepy and weird.
	I thought the username was icky.
	It's weird.
	It's creepy.
	Wait, so 18-year-old women should not be able to vote.
	Is that your position?
	I never said that.
	Stopping words in my mouth.
	But okay, if they're not, they're either adults or they're not.
	Okay, you can't do Schrödinger's feminist.
	They're either adults or they're not adults.
	I never said they were not adults.
	Well, then, if they're adults.
	Legally, an adult woman.
	Well, I find it creepy.
	I find it creepy 18-year-old women can vote.
	It gives me the ick.
	Okay, wait.
	So, Andrew, let me just come in and say this.
	So, Andrew already stated, for example, at 18, a woman can join the military.
	She can sign a legally binding contract.
	She can take out five or even six figures of student loans.
	What else?
	She can do everything.
	She can vote.
	The only thing she can't do is buy booze and smokes because she's a fan of the city.
	I have a question she wants to go to basically.
	Should we increase the age to do all those things?
	I don't think so.
	Do you think that's a good idea?
	So then if you're feminists.
	But if, okay, if they can join the military where they can go and get a fucking go get fucking shot at, deleted in a war, don't you think that they can consent to having sex with a male?
	I never said they cannot consent.
	You both are twisting my words.
	And I don't know how you're not trying, how you don't understand the point.
	Well, she consents and he consents and they're both as a person.
	Yes, it would be consensual sex, but that doesn't mean the guy is not creepy or predatory to specifically want 18-year-old virgins.
	Why?
	Well, it makes him creepy or predatory.
	Other than ick.
	Like I said, if I could talk to my, you're at 19, correct?
	If I can talk to you instead of the guy I'm arguing with.
	Hold on, hold on.
	No, no, no.
	Just for sake of example.
	If 40 to 60 year old men constantly hit on you, would you find that predatory or creepy?
	Honestly.
	Well, in like a dating prospect?
	In a romantic prospect.
	That's just not my preference of men.
	Or I'll even say your age group.
	If there was 40 to 60 year old men who only wanted women your age, how would you feel about those guys?
	I'm not surprised.
	Like that exists.
	It exists.
	Just bite the bullet and say sure.
	Sure.
	Okay, now let me ask you this question back the other way.
	Well, let me ask you this question back the other way.
	If she went out and hit on a bunch of 40-year-old men, is that creepy?
	No.
	Then shut the fuck up.
	You got nothing.
	You got nothing.
	Okay.
	That's the end of it.
	It literally makes no sense.
	That doesn't give you the ick.
	The other thing gives you the ick.
	If you disagree doesn't mean it doesn't make sense.
	It doesn't make sense.
	Why would that be okay?
	But the other way, it's not okay.
	Are you vegan?
	No.
	Okay.
	It's okay for you to consume cows.
	If cows consumed humans.
	I gave cows no moral consideration.
	The fuck is that?
	What do you think?
	Cows are not humans.
	Hold up.
	Should cows be fed humans?
	Should cows be like dead humans?
	No, cows started alive before you ate them.
	You're comparing human beings.
	Hold on, I'm just saying, wait, can you say?
	No, Hang on, I want to finish real quick.
	Real quick.
	This again?
	Good.
	Okay, not, you're saying everything has to be reciprocated.
	No, I'm not saying everything has to be reciprocated.
	I'm saying in this case it does.
	If older men hit on younger women and that's not okay, then it's not okay for younger women to hit on older men.
	No, I'm asking why one's creepy and one's not.
	One is creepy because that man has significant more life experience and is preying on younger, pure women so they can train or groom them to be what they want in the world.
	What if this older man who's 40 is really buff and really fucking dumb and the 19 year old smarter than he is?
	Okay.
	Then who's the predator then?
	Is that icky?
	Yes, it's icky then.
	Yes, it's icky.
	Okay, let's just.
	Is Audrey here?
	Yes, it's very ill.
	It's like it's hard slap boxing.
	So, okay, let me come in on this.
	So, Andrew, I don't know if this is either shifting the goalposts or Mott and Bailey, but here's where we started.
	We were talking about virginity.
	Age was not at all a factor, but she retreated to a more defensible position of well, but she retreated to a stronger position of optically stronger.
	Optically stronger.
	Let's talk about, well, okay, it's 18-year-old virgins now, not just virgins, because that's where we started.
	Is that Mott and Bailey, or is that shifting the goalposts?
	Well, no, or it was an optical Mott and Bailey.
	So the Mott is 18, the Bailey is virgin.
	Then you say, yes, it's okay because there's not actually anything that's morally incorrect about it.
	She agrees, but then says it's icky.
	And so the optics there, most people would agree that it's icky, and so therefore it's icky.
	I guess that's where we end up.
	I want to engage you on the virgin component of this.
	So your original statement was: well, I think it's kind of hypocritical for a man who, you know, maybe he's got a high body count and he wants to date women who have a low body count or who are virgins.
	You object to that.
	You think they must be relegated for the rest of their life to dating women who have the exact same body count as him.
	Well, okay.
	My original.
	Let me ask you a question.
	How tall are you?
	I'm 5'5 or 5'6.
	Okay, do you like tall men?
	I don't care about height.
	You don't care about height at all?
	Would you date a guy who's shorter than you?
	Yes.
	Have you?
	Okay, that's fine.
	No.
	I've been in one relationship.
	How tall was your boyfriend?
	5'10, 5'11.
	Okay.
	So let's see what else.
	Okay, let me ask you a question.
	So in order for you to want to be with someone, do you need to be exactly the same?
	No.
	Need you, in order to be attracted to a trait, need you possess said trait?
	No.
	Okay, checkmate.
	Gigi.
	Hold on before you say check.
	Gigi, well played.
	I was my original point, which you twisted was: I want to understand.
	I was asking for an understanding.
	No, you objected specifically to men with high body counts.
	Haunting virgins.
	Let me finish.
	I said, I don't understand why older men with high body counts only want to date.
	I don't think it's that they only give you a list of reasons.
	And I said, because I personally find that creepy, and I was looking for an explanation.
	Oh, no, actually, you said it was immoral.
	I just want to let you know.
	You brought that up.
	You said it was immoral.
	I said, I personally find it immoral, but that's my opinion.
	You said it was creepy and predatory.
	You don't have personal morality, though.
	You have external divine command.
	I personally.
	Oh, this is getting complicated.
	I am in my early 20s, but I look at 18, 19-year-olds as children.
	What?
	Bro, what?
	What?
	No.
	It's just hard to do.
	Let's get our own world.
	There's a definition.
	Adult has a definition.
	Yes, it does.
	So you view a 19-year-old as a child.
	Not a child.
	You literally just.
	Same as a 10-year-old, but I think they're a kid.
	They're still in high school, usually.
	19-year-olds are not in high school.
	How many guys are in high school?
	I don't know anything.
	What the fuck, dumbass fucking 19-year-olds?
	They held back ones.
	The held back ones?
	I'm sorry, but no.
	Sorry, the hell.
	19-year-olds are sophomores in college.
	You think this is Dawson's?
	10-year-olds are sophomore in college.
	Okay, okay, but back to this.
	You don't have personal morality.
	You follow divine command.
	I do.
	Yeah, so then what do you mean personally?
	I find it immoral.
	I don't know why you're defending 40-plus-year-old men being okay with being with.
	Well, I don't know why you're offending.
	I've told you multiple times.
	I find it icky.
	Right.
	Okay.
	And that's why I'm defending because I don't give a fuck what you consider icky.
	All I care about is what is moral or immoral or that you can make an actual argument for that somebody somewhere is going to give a shit about.
	Thus far, that has not happened.
	Okay, so once again, if I can jump in here, in order for you to desire something in a partner, need you possess that trait.
	No.
	I was asking for an explanation.
	Okay, so then why is it?
	I was asking for an explanation.
	And if you could not give it away, I want to go through it again.
	You said about pair bonding.
	I'll jump in on that.
	Eventually.
	Eventually, hold on.
	Eventually, you did answer it, but it took you a while.
	No, I did it immediately.
	You didn't say the pair bonding until later.
	No, I went through step by step by step and started with why fertility would be a thing that we would go after, and then I explained.
	But fertility has nothing to do with virginity.
	Yeah, but then I explained why it would be that you would stop.
	Yeah, it would have to do with young age, though, which is I literally, I literally walked you through step by step by step by step, including pair bonding, virginity.
	Well, eventually, I had to start at the beginning and walk you through.
	So, yes, it's an eventual Greg.
	Like, we have to start at the bottom rung so we can get to the top rung.
	Okay, I did not disagree with the points.
	So, I don't know why we're debating about what I didn't disagree on.
	No, well, then if there's no disagreement, then there's actually nothing wrong with a 40-year-old.
	We just have a difference in opinions.
	Yeah.
	You get the ick.
	And you don't.
	And we don't care.
	Okay.
	I feel like a lot of people get the ick over it, though.
	There's like, if you scroll through TikTok and stuff, there's loads of like silver.
	It's not like on the street conversations and they like speak to like couples.
	The comment section is wild.
	So literally, I just, in a um, in LA chopper, he posted a picture and then I posted.
	We kind of do this when they do this.
	We post like underneath that stuff.
	For donated $100.
	Do you think a 40-year and an 18-year-old can have an adult conversation about anything?
	Maddie, I'm sure you would think it's weird.
	I'm not so sure that men and women can have adult conversations about anything anyway.
	I know I'm 19 and you're what, 38?
	40.
	Oh, 40.
	I think we can have a pretty cool.
	Well, actually, we do.
	I never said that.
	That was the dono.
	Responding to that.
	Okay, here, I'm going to do a couple chats.
	Yeah.
	We have RV.
	She said men should not expect to find a virgin close to their age.
	Instead of saying that women should give more importance to pair bonding for humanity's well-being, she prefers sexual instant gratification over the future of humanity.
	Mercy Buku for the Canadian 50.
	Do you want to respond to that quickly?
	Can I reread that?
	Oh, my God.
	I'll just read it for you.
	It's just word vomit.
	It's just word vomit.
	Okay, she has no comment.
	Thank you, though, for the super chat.
	Nickelodeon playing devil's advocate, dude.
	Pike drives through 100 women, then finds God and wants a Virginia.
	Why not just settle for a born-again virgin, Andrew?
	He can.
	Yeah, he can.
	He can.
	So just playing Devil's Advocate back, that argument didn't fucking work really well, did it?
	Also, I do want to reply to the last sentence of the last donation.
	Yeah, sure.
	I was not advocating for instant sexual gratification.
	I'm against casual sex.
	For myself personally, I just didn't understand a man's outlook and reasoning for wanting younger women.
	Andrew explained, which Andrew has since explained.
	Would you date Henry Cavill?
	No.
	You wouldn't?
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	She says that she says one thing.
	Maybe she means.
	No, I genuinely would not.
	Rich, handsome, famous.
	All-around good dude, plays World of Warcraft.
	What's wrong with you?
	Just kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	You cannot want to date Henry Cavill.
	That's fine.
	Why are you looking at me that one?
	What the fuck?
	Chill, bro.
	I don't know.
	You could have named a bunch of other attributes.
	You only date 26-year-olds.
	27.
	Disqualified.
	Would you go for Brad Pitt?
	He's in his 50s, right?
	No?
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	She's too good for Brad Pitt, folks.
	Brad Pitt, would you object to a woman who's like 19 wanting to date Brad Pitt?
	No, I don't object to it.
	But do you think it'd be weird if he...
	Let's say...
	Okay.
	I only think it's weird if he only wants 19-year-olds.
	I think that's the point both of you are missing.
	I think it's fine if an older and younger person get together.
	I think that's fine.
	You don't, though.
	When an older man is only targeting 18, 19-year-olds or virgins.
	Is that the case, though?
	Like, is that really?
	There are some men who think that, yes.
	But I'm sure.
	But they don't understand what the argument could possibly be if they did.
	Okay, for example, for me, right?
	No, no, no.
	Okay, for me, right?
	Yes.
	So I'm 34.
	I would date a girl who's 21.
	Okay.
	Now, I'm not hanging out at college parties.
	I don't go to, well, I don't party or go to clubs and bars to begin with.
	But like, if I ran into a 21-year-old who was attractive and she liked me, I liked her.
	We got along.
	I see no problem there.
	I think you would object to it, though.
	No, I agree with you.
	But I'm not, again, but I would date a woman.
	I would also date a woman.
	I'm not saying specific.
	Oh, like, but so I also.
	So here's my thing, though.
	So I would date a woman who's my age.
	I've actually dated women who are older than me.
	I would date a woman around my age, plus or minus, a couple years.
	But I would also, if 21-year-old woman was interested in dating me, I would date her.
	But do you object to that?
	No, I don't object to any of that.
	Brian.
	For you, it's specifically they're hyper-focused.
	Yes.
	In reality, those things aren't really working out with those men that went the 19th century.
	It doesn't, but I really, but there's a lot of men who idolize that.
	And you said you're 34, right?
	Yeah.
	Would you deliberately hang out in groups, college parties or whatever, where you know women are going to be 18 to 21 in looking for a partner?
	Or if you had a dating profile, would you set your preferences to be 18 to 21-year-old woman?
	Okay, so to answer the first question, no, I'm not at college parties trolling for college chicks.
	And then two, I would, if I haven't been on dating apps for a while, if I were to set my age range, I would set it probably like 18 to 39, maybe.
	Okay, exactly.
	And I see nothing wrong with that.
	But I think I was trying to make the point that I find it creepy when men specifically only want 18, 19, 20 year old women.
	Yeah, you do.
	Okay.
	You just, there you go.
	It just really kind of rubs me the wrong way.
	Oh, we got some tweets from our dear friend Malik.
	Did I get it right this time?
	Oh, no.
	Wait, did I get the name right, though?
	Yeah, you got it right.
	We got to.
	I don't think anything was bad on my Twitter, which is why I said I don't know.
	If men didn't exist, nothing would get done.
	Yeah.
	Can you zoom it out a bit?
	You're going to have to zoom it back in, though, after.
	Actually, I don't disagree with that.
	Wait, the kind of lack of a face emoji there.
	Oh, okay.
	But you disagreed if men didn't okay, you disagreed with the me.
	Yeah, I'm disagreeing that I stand by that.
	Okay, yeah, okay.
	Yeah, I find it's laughable that people think that.
	No, no, no.
	Scroll up, sweet.
	Next.
	Yeah, from this was not the own you thought.
	Malik, you're gonna read these, okay?
	Okay.
	Nick, right corner.
	You can read it.
	A lot of people fail to recognize the fact that if men today were stronger, smarter, and more dominant, any woman would be submissive.
	Today, several men lack the leadership skills, so women have to step up to the plate.
	Men need to be better leaders so women can follow.
	I agree with that.
	Here's the issue that I see: is that, granted, I think men are lacking in a lot of ways.
	Men need to step it up a bit.
	The reality is, though, even as a man, if you are inclined to lead and you are a good leader, there's a lot of women that are not prepared to be followers because that's the yin and yang of if you're a woman and you want a man who's a leader, you need to be prepared to follow.
	And a lot of women want the man to be a leader, but in a very confusing way, don't want to follow.
	You're attracted to the leader, but also you don't want to, or you're attracted to the leader, but you don't want.
	So, in order to lead, you have to be willing to be led.
	And a lot of women are combative and argumentative and quarrelsome and boss babes and all this stuff.
	She's Orthodox.
	She agrees.
	Yeah, I agree with everything you just said.
	Right.
	But that's the issue: is like a lot of women don't want to follow.
	Yeah, so from our purview, it would be that.
	I mean, it's true, right?
	This is a big thing which is talked about inside of Orthodox beers constantly, whether they're cradle-born or not cradle-born, is that women will often say they know that they're supposed to be submissive to their husbands, but they have a hard time, right?
	Their husband needs to prove themselves first.
	Their husband needs to show them they're worthy of leading them.
	And that's kind of like the opposite of submission, right?
	That's not the point of submission.
	I agree and disagree with you.
	I agree in the fact that, yes, women should submit and not necessarily wait for the man to take control.
	However, I do think if a man doesn't give a woman reassurance or safety or just the trust that they can take care of them and be a leader, I can understand.
	That's not submission.
	I can understand a woman not wanting to fully submit if there's apprehension.
	They may not want to, but that's not the point of submission, is what you want, because otherwise it wouldn't be submission.
	But that's why in my tweet, I said that if men were better leaders and wanted to take the leading role more, more women would submit.
	There's so many men.
	Yeah, no, I get it, but that defeats the purpose of submission.
	That's the point.
	And that was the point of my tweet.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So wouldn't that be hypocrisy then?
	No.
	No.
	You're trying to make it something it's not.
	Okay.
	Next tweet.
	You want to read it?
	All men want is a woman who is pretty, loyal, supportive, and pure.
	All women need is a man who can emotionally and financially support them.
	Yet women be picky about all the irrelevant stuff.
	Wait, I thought you were against men wanting pure only if that's all they only want.
	No, I am not against that.
	I think men do want that.
	I was just honing in on the.
	We went on that debate way too long, and I think me and Andrew specifically agree on a lot of points.
	It's just, I think both of us were misconstruing our arguments.
	Okay.
	And I was just honing on one specification, not the broad.
	Next tweet.
	Next tweet.
	Pearl says that, and then you say.
	If a man told you to delete the message.
	Hang on, can I read Pearls real quick?
	Okay.
	So Pearl says, no, I do not need therapy, you dumb woman.
	I see what is in front of my eyes.
	Women make dumb choices.
	Let men make choices, not us.
	Just wanted to do that real quick.
	If a man told you to delete your social media, would you?
	But I thought you were submissive.
	How is that not submissive?
	Wait, would you delete your social media?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	All right, next tweet.
	Face.
	Why were you arguing with the lady?
	She was tweeting.
	Let's keep it moving.
	Let's keep it moving.
	Oh, okay.
	This is from Pearl again.
	I guess you and Pearl have a friendship.
	Vanna White says she's leaving Wheel of Fortune unless she makes at least half of what Pat Zayjak makes.
	Pat Zayjak makes $15 million a year.
	So that's the lady that points to the letter, if I have it correct.
	She doesn't speak really.
	So she says she's leaving Wheel of Fortune unless she makes at least half of what Pat Zayjack makes.
	Scroll down.
	And then you respond.
	You want to read this?
	This is not delusional.
	Is she replaceable?
	Of course.
	Does she deserve at least half of her male co-host's salary, though?
	Yes.
	We'll see what they do.
	Why?
	I don't.
	I actually don't necessarily think she deserves half.
	That's what you said, though.
	I did say that, but I'm allowed to change my opinion.
	But as I say in the first part of that response, she is easily replaceable.
	If you're easily replaceable, obviously you shouldn't deserve the same salary.
	So you were just wrong about that tweet?
	I would say I was wrong about that.
	What was your position back then?
	I guess my position.
	What was the justification?
	My position back then was it was not necessarily wrong of her to want a higher salary or quit, but she's replaceable.
	So they're probably not going to do it.
	But wait, pull it back up, the same one.
	You said she deserve, deserves at least half.
	It's not, you didn't say she was.
	I said, I don't agree with that.
	Yeah, that's the part that she's changed her mind about.
	Yeah, no, but what was your personality?
	I was asking, like, what your argument would have been for it back then.
	Why does she deserve?
	I said back then, I don't remember that, like I said, that was from a year ago, but I was probably tweeting in the context of it's not wrong of her to ask for that much and quit if they don't give her a question.
	No, but you said.
	I use the word deserve because it was in the original tweet.
	All right, next.
	Oh, don't scroll down.
	FTP.
	Yeah.
	F the police.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Question for the whole table here, starting with you, and then we'll figure it out.
	Would you date a police officer?
	No.
	Is it because you just have a general dislike for police?
	No, I personally know people who are police.
	Okay.
	I just.
	Okay.
	I just would not.
	Well, we'll go around the table on this.
	Starting with you, we'll go all the way around.
	No.
	I would not date a police officer.
	No.
	I guess say I wouldn't because the potential of them getting her on duty and then passing away.
	Sure.
	I couldn't.
	Alexis.
	I support the police force.
	I think that, you know, back the blue.
	I think they're awesome.
	I'm really grateful for what they do.
	It's hard answering hypotheticals when you're in a relationship.
	If you weren't, no.
	No, I get it.
	Yeah, I don't think so.
	Are you not a fan of the police?
	I was replying to one of whatever's tweets, I believe.
	What was the tweet I was replying to?
	No, it wasn't our tweet.
	It was just like a video of police brutality or something.
	So, I'm sorry, what was your question?
	Why fuck the police?
	Yeah.
	Oh, I don't have anything against individual officers as a whole, but the entire police system allows for so much corruption.
	The amount of.
	I'm sure everyone in this room either themselves or has a friend who's been pulled over at one point or another and was told by a cop, oh, I could do this, but I'm going to let you off easy.
	Oh, I could really fuck up your life.
	I could write you for this, but I've never heard that.
	It exists a lot.
	I personally have dealt with that.
	Here, let me.
	Do you think we should get rid of police?
	Absolutely not.
	I support you need police in a functioning government.
	I just think that I don't know.
	Even with quotas, like for cops to meet a certain amount of quotas.
	problem with with police is that prisons are for profit so you constantly need not all prisons but Not all prisons, but the court system and everything.
	It's for profit.
	So you constantly need to be charging people with crimes or locking people up so that it does profit.
	And I think that more of an institutional issue, though, than like saying the police.
	No, I get it, but that's a really strong statement.
	I guess I'm just trying to clarify your position.
	Yeah, the police as a whole, not individual policemen.
	Well, for the sake of time, I don't think we have enough time to engage too much on the police thing, so let's keep it moving.
	Oh, well, hold on.
	Hold on just a second.
	You change your opinion a lot, girl.
	At this point, I'm just saying.
	I'll read this one.
	Read it, go ahead.
	At this point, we'd be better off with no cops at all.
	Well, hold on.
	You said we need police.
	I do.
	And that tweet is partly satire.
	And it's hard to state why I said that without knowing the context of the previous video.
	I don't know if you've got a video.
	There's been multiple response to a video.
	Or whatever.
	How many times have you been pulled over?
	Maybe you're just going to be a little bit more.
	I get pulled over a lot, actually.
	No, I don't speed.
	I've actually, every time I've been pulled over, I have gone a ticket, and every time I have taken it to court and represented myself in one.
	I have a clean record.
	Proud of you.
	I get harassed by cops quite a bit.
	Oh.
	Really?
	You think they're just like out together?
	I live in the Appalachia area.
	Yeah, I live in Appalachia.
	Ah, okay.
	So they got nothing better to do.
	I should do a show in Appalachia.
	What do you think?
	Would you be on the show?
	Oh, sure.
	I'll give you a tour of the local cousin.
	You got some.
	Wow, okay.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Alexis has some thoughts on that one.
	Which is really.
	Do your neighbors have a couch in their front yard?
	You really knocked me outside that.
	I honestly, I honestly don't leave my house much unless I'm going to drive at least an hour away.
	Okay.
	Do you like it there?
	No.
	Yo.
	I don't like the area.
	Welcome to the whatever podcast coming to you live from Appalachia.
	What's up?
	We're going to do it.
	We're going to do it.
	Hey, I'll hit you up.
	You got some girlfriends?
	In Appalachia?
	Okay.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	Next tweet.
	Good sir.
	Oh, that's it?
	That's all the tweets.
	Okay, we should.
	I told you I didn't have bad tweets.
	Hey, you weren't there.
	I thought you were going to pull up some that was it.
	Nothing too bad.
	Okay.
	Wait, we read this one, correct?
	I think we.
	Yeah, okay.
	Or did we?
	I just want to make sure.
	Yeah, we did.
	We did.
	Okay.
	All right, guys.
	Any final thoughts here before we wrap up from anybody?
	Otherwise, I think we.
	Oh, wait, does body count matter?
	Go.
	No.
	Yeah.
	And dog, yeah.
	Yeah.
	For me, no, for men, yes.
	Okay.
	Uh, no.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Uh, okay.
	So, uh, what's your body count starting with Maddie?
	Welcome to the table, Maddie.
	Eight.
	And then you, and then we'll go around.
	I don't know.
	Uh, range.
	I don't know.
	Here, let me help.
	More than 50?
	I don't know.
	I stopped keeping track of my body count a long time ago.
	You stopped keeping track after how many?
	I don't know.
	If you had to guess, if you had to guess.
	If I had to guess.
	How to guess.
	Honestly speaking.
	Honestly speaking.
	It's a high number.
	It's in the three digits.
	Triple digits.
	Dosekis.
	No, wait.
	That's double digits.
	All right.
	I don't know Spanish.
	500?
	Would that be unreasonable?
	I mean, that might be a little too high.
	Okay, so 300?
	Whoa.
	Maybe between like 150, 200.
	No, maybe 250.
	Maybe 300.
	Maybe.
	Maybe, but it is a maybe.
	Okay.
	Hey, I like some onics.
	Oh my god, that fucking computer came out of fucking nowhere.
	Holy fuck.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it's good that you're on this.
	Thank you.
	So like 300.
	Like.
	I'm not gonna say 250 and leave it at that.
	Okay, we'll leave it at 250.
	You know.
	Give or take.
	For me, I'm gonna say maybe between like, I guess over 50, but not more than 100 because I was in a relationship for seven years.
	So it took, wow, yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'm also an, I don't know, but I'm trying, I'm thinking.
	I'm doing some maths.
	Do any of you like have kept a list?
	I used to keep a list.
	Do you still have it?
	No.
	You still got your list?
	You got a list?
	I don't have it.
	Oh, you got a list?
	I used to have a list, but then it just got too much.
	And I was like, no, I've deleted it.
	So what do you think?
	Over 100?
	Oh, no.
	Definitely.
	Definitely.
	I want to say 150, but I just feel like probably it's more like 200.
	Could be.
	Could be 250.
	Definitely not 300, though, because I went for a really dry spell.
	Well, okay, so which one has to be?
	Oh, shit.
	Do I have to double it?
	If they've been in each at the same time, fuck.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm like, I don't know.
	Shit, because they couldn't be swapping.
	Okay, so I'm going to all end 500.
	Multiply it by three.
	Well, because if you count, they can swap during sex.
	Fucking busting out math.
	All right.
	If we're including both, I'm going to say 500.
	So 250.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	250 men.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	10.
	Okay.
	One.
	Okay.
	Y'all already know I'm not answering this question.
	I knew she was.
	Why not?
	I know.
	I'm genuinely curious.
	If we're going on the theory, the body count matters.
	I'm not answering it.
	No, no, no.
	No.
	If I'm going to continue my logic, I'm going to continue my logic.
	If I'm not going to rate myself a number, y'all, I'm not going to answer this question.
	True, true.
	True.
	That's real.
	Couldn't say nothing.
	That's real.
	One question for Miss Exquisite.
	I just really want to press a button on this, so I'm going to ask you a question.
	What?
	So, again, what are the things, the chivalrous things that you're looking for?
	Listen, listen.
	If you decide to take me out on a date or ask me out on a date, I just want you to open the door for me.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Pull my chair out.
	You know, if you're insinuating the date, then yes, I would much appreciate for you to pay for the date.
	I mean, you are asking me on the date.
	Flowers, if you want, you know what I'm saying?
	Just, you know, nice, good small talk when we're having a nice date.
	That's pretty much it.
	I don't ask for much.
	I don't know, man.
	That sounds like a lot of work.
	It's a lot of work just to be a gentleman.
	Honestly, that's a lot of work.
	It's an amazing thing.
	That sounds like a lot of work.
	I mean, but I'm not dating for that.
	That's what I'm saying.
	But most men who act like that are.
	Oh, bitch, all these rooms.
	You think most men act that way for a long term?
	Some men just do it just to be a gentleman.
	That's true.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Cool, cool.
	Any more buttons you want to press?
	No, I think I go through the whole thing like a light show.
	Them all.
	Okay, so maybe last question here.
	Actually, we need to wrap up.
	It's late.
	All right, guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow, drop us a prime sub if you have one.
	And also subscribe to our clips channel, whatever.
	Second, we're trying to get to one or one million subscribers.
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	Thank you guys.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, guys.
	That was a great show.
	You guys were awesome.
	Thank you, guys.
	It was a good show.
	We had some good debates, some good laughs.
	I got my let's see.
	Let me do this chat.
	Nickelodeon, we need a contest to give a nickname to the Chilean soldier.
	Hey, that's a Chilean military uniform.
	I vote Manny Quinn.
	He gets a bonus, $100 every hour.
	He doesn't move.
	Good times.
	Okay.
	I don't know if the viewers can hear that, but some people were screaming outside.
	Okay, thank you, Nickelodeon.
	Appreciate your patronage.
	Good to see you in the chat here.
	So I just want to finish by saying this was a great panel.
	You guys were dope.
	Thank you guys.
	You guys were super awesome.
	Be sure to eat all the food that Maddie baked.
	Oh, oh, question.
	Does anyone have experience making like those AI voices where you basically run an algorithm or an AI to compile like to make a custom AI voice?
	Because you guys know the Dragon Ball Z voice?
	Like next time on Dragon Ball Z.
	I want to do one for the whatever podcast.
	Yeah, I'll do one for you.
	Oh, you do voiceover?
	Yeah.
	Can you like imitate?
	Perfectly.
	You know the Dragon Ball Z voice?
	Wait, let's hear it.
	Yeah, you're talking about the next time on Dragon Ball Z.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I can do it.
	On the next exciting episode of Dragon Ball Z.
	But except it's for the whatever podcast.
	Does she do her three baby daddies?
	Just send me the script.
	Okay, yeah, hell yeah.
	Let's do it.
	Okay.
	So I need to raid somebody over on Twitch.
	We are going to raid.
	Let me just refresh, make sure I am going to be able to end.
	Yeah, we're good.
	Let me just double check, guys.
	We're going to raid those of you who are on Twitch.
	We're going to raid.
	Oh, your homies with cute bot.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, we're not going to raid her, but I see she's live.
	No, I gotta raid one of my world of.
	I think I've raided her before, but I'm gonna raid once, maybe.
	Actually, no, actually, no, I don't think I raided her.
	But I only raid World of Warcraft, guys.
	So we're gonna raid Frost of Damascus.
	He's playing Season of Discovery on World of Warcraft.
	So those of you on Twitch, I'm gonna send you over there in just a sec.
	I do want to give my little outro here.
	Last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	We will be live again Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
	A good panel for Sunday.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara.
	Thank you again to the wonderful panel.
	I know we went late here once again.
	I always say we should try to.
	Anyways, so thank you guys.
	Thank you, the wonderful panel.
	Those of you on Twitch, I'm going to send you there in precisely 10 seconds.
	I do want to shout out Andrew's channel, The Crucible.
	He's a blood sports debater and all-arounds great guy.
	Be sure to go subscribe to his channel.
	His link is in the description.
	You can also buy his wife's book, Rachel Wilson, Occult Feminism.
	So on Twitch, I'm going to raid you guys.
	Good night, guys.
	07's in the chat over on Twitch raiding Frost Adamas right now.
	Right now.
	I'm sorry.
	She's just bit into a banana.
	She's just like, what is anyone?
	Oh, okay.
	What?
	Wait, what?
	Right.
	Like, what is happening?
	Yo, you, how would you, like a British person, say, like, yeah, mate?
	Wait, no, no.
	Are you all right, mate?
	you fucked in the head yeah that are you are you fucked in the head are you Are you retarded?
	No, don't do that.
	I have heard.
	We didn't say it four times a day.
	I don't really understand what's happening here.
	Oh, okay, okay.
	Mom, pick me up.
	Are you just doing that for the show?
	Is that how you actually eat bananas?
	I'm doing it for the show.
	Yeah.
	There's no way.
	Wait, here, wait.
	Put it.
	Eat that part.
	Yeah, yeah, eat that.
	That's wood.
	That's like a branch.
	Eat it.
	Yeah, it's good.
	It's good.
	What the fuck?
	All right.
	I find it predatory and creepy that you're eating bananas.
	It's a maul.
	You are grooming.
	That gives me the ick.
	That gives me the ick.
	And with that, we're going to wrap the show.
	07's in the chat, guys.
	Good night, guys.
	We will see you on.
	I'm just making sure I didn't forget anything here.
	We hit everything.
	All right.
	Good night, guys.
	07's in the chat.

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