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The Officer Tatum DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! | Dating Talk #107

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	Before we have our guests introduce themselves, a lot of you have been asking about the thumbnails.
	Brian, why do you put AI girls in the thumbnails?
	This is a new thing I've started doing.
	And it just basically comes down to women canceling last minute or no showing.
	So I'm kind of getting tired of constantly having to redo the thumbnails last minute or after the show because of flaking, you know, taking them out, putting someone else in.
	If I schedule like 10 girls, on average, at least four are going to flake in 124 hours.
	I've done over 100 shows.
	That's just, it's the rule, not the exception.
	We had four girls scheduled for today, a group of them.
	They bailed last night, claiming they had a mandatory meeting with their landlord on a Sunday at 6 p.m.
	Sounds valid, right?
	So honestly, and the crazy thing is, guys, doing this show, a lot of you think I'm stressed out doing the show.
	It's actually not so much doing the show.
	It's basically booking everybody and scheduling 20 people every single week, hoping they show up.
	Like, it kind of sucks the life out of you.
	It's a lot harder than people think doing like guest booking and stuff.
	So I'm going to probably have to delegate that.
	So Nick's probably going to get on that pretty soon.
	What else do we have here?
	I think there's just.
	It happens every single show, guys.
	So sometimes I mention it, sometimes I don't, but just assume every single show we're dealing with flakes, we're dealing with people, like no shows, people are late.
	So it is what it is.
	So sorry for our delay once again.
	And you're going to be dealing with that sort of stuff when it comes to dating, but we can get into that a little bit later.
	Anyways, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
	Go ahead.
	My name is Karen, also known as Serena.
	I'm 38.
	I'm from the Bay Area and I work in the dental field.
	38?
	Okay, welcome.
	Thank you.
	Hi, my name is Eileen.
	I'm 24 years old and I'm studying at ASU as an industrial engineer.
	Okay.
	Do you do content creation?
	Did I see that?
	do yes what do you tick tock oh just tick tock And Instagram.
	Yeah.
	You're not like doing OF or anything?
	No, I'm not.
	Gotcha.
	What about you?
	Diana, I'm 40.
	I'm in the dental field and real estate agent.
	All right, welcome.
	My name is Jessica.
	You can find me at Rojaloka.com and I do OnlyFans.
	Age?
	27.
	Okay, and you do OF, correct?
	Yes.
	You do traditional scenes or like do you do prong?
	Everything, just me.
	Do you do solo content, PG, girl, girl?
	What do you do?
	Just solo content.
	Okay, gotcha.
	What about you?
	My name is Julia.
	I am 29.
	I'm from Washington, D.C., and I'm a consultant for a technology firm.
	All right, welcome.
	My name is Claudia.
	I'm 34 and I'm a neuropsychologist.
	My name is Kate.
	I'm 24 and I'm a pastry chef at Moonstone Grill.
	All right, my name is Brandon.
	I'm 36 years old, and I do so many things.
	I don't know which one to pick, but I do a YouTube channel.
	The Officer Tatum.
	Yes.
	How long have you been, and well, were you in the military previously, right?
	No, I was a police officer.
	For some reason, I thought you were in the military before you were a police officer.
	No, no, no.
	I knew you were a police officer, but I thought even before that.
	Okay.
	I had aspirations to do it, but I just became a cop.
	At what age did you get into law enforcement?
	I think I was about 23 years old.
	23.
	And so from what year to what year were you?
	How long were you in the force?
	About six and a half years from 2011 to 2017.
	Gotcha.
	And then you started doing content creation.
	Yeah, yeah, I was doing concentration while I was a cop, and then it just led to me doing it full-time.
	Did you get into like any trouble?
	No, people love me.
	Okay.
	The cops love me.
	I was like the corpse of the police department.
	That's awesome.
	Cool, cool, cool.
	All right, we're going to go around the table once more.
	So tell us your current relationship status.
	So are you single?
	Are you in a relationship, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, married, polycule, harem, sex cult?
	People are all kinds of interesting and different situations.
	So tell us that.
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Go ahead.
	I'm currently single.
	I just got out of a four-year relationship in May.
	I was in a lesbian relationship.
	And right now, in a situationship.
	Okay, you're currently seeing somebody.
	Sneaky link, yeah.
	A sneaky link.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	For those who don't know what a sneaky link is, what's a sneaky link?
	Because some people might not know.
	It's somebody that you're seeing, but you don't want nobody to know or they don't want.
	It's kind of like a secret situation.
	Okay, right.
	I see.
	And you said, so your previous relationship, which was four years, you said that was a lesbian relationship.
	Do you consider yourself to be lesbian?
	Are you bi?
	What do you think?
	I'm bisexual.
	You're bi.
	Okay.
	And the woman who you were with, was she bi or was she lesbian?
	She claimed to be lesbian.
	Claimed to be a lesbian.
	Yes.
	But.
	But.
	There's a but, it sounds like.
	So I just recently found out that I was cheated on with a man.
	She cheated.
	She got with a man.
	She cheated on me with a man.
	Was there more than one man?
	Multiple men?
	Supposedly, from what I heard.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And you thought she was full-blown.
	Yes.
	She was masculine lesbian.
	But she had sex.
	I guess that doesn't really make her a lesbian then.
	Right.
	That would make her maybe bi.
	Exactly.
	So she was misleading with her.
	Yeah, she was hiding it.
	She was hiding it really well.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I mean, I had my, you know, suspicion that, you know, something, just the things that she would tell me.
	Yeah.
	And the fact that her boy would come over on the weekends that I was out of town, even though there was a ring camera.
	So, you know, there was this one time where I kind of like, I thought it was really suspicious.
	You guys were living together?
	Yeah.
	We were living together.
	Oh, so you had access to the camera?
	Yes.
	And you'd see a guy coming over?
	I see her friend.
	Oh, oh, you thought it was a friend?
	Her boy, yeah.
	Okay.
	Homeboy.
	But they were really.
	Lovers.
	They were.
	Yeah.
	So supposedly before me, they were boyfriend, girlfriend.
	Okay.
	Oh, so they have a history.
	Yeah, they had a history.
	She didn't tell you that?
	She didn't.
	She just said that he was super in love with her and he was like obsessed with her.
	He would do anything.
	So he agreed that he can only be, he would only, you know, be friends with her.
	What was your reaction when you found out definitively that she was cheating on you?
	My heart dropped and I was like, my facial expression, I think, lasted like this for like a whole week because I was so stuck.
	It was just stuck.
	It was just like, it was more of a, oh my God, I was coming home and, you know, I was putting my mouth on you and there was a man in there.
	There was what?
	A man in there.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Good times.
	Yeah.
	Good times.
	Unexpected threesome.
	Do you mind me asking what?
	Wait, hold on.
	Oh, Darcy.
	If you're going to speak, you got to speak into the mic, okay?
	Yes.
	You got to be like close to the mic.
	Go ahead.
	Do you mind me asking what you consider yourself?
	I'm bisexual.
	Oh, bisexual.
	And like your previous relationships, were they?
	I've had my real, real relationships have been with men before her.
	But I did have, again, sneaky links with women.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Yeah, so I'm single.
	My last relationship was like a month and a half or two months.
	And my longest relationship, it was two years and a half.
	Your last relationship, it was a month and a half ago?
	Yes, ago.
	And how long was that relationship?
	A month and a half.
	Oh, your last relationship was a month and a half, and it was a month and a half ago.
	Yes.
	I see.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Have you had a rebound since?
	I have not.
	Was that the rebound?
	Because that could have been the rebound.
	That was the rebound.
	I guess.
	Was it the rebound of the rebound of the rebound?
	If you want to say it, like that.
	Well, I don't know.
	You tell me.
	I don't think so.
	So no, because I was like single for like probably two years and a half and then I got in this relationship before my other one.
	So yeah.
	Your friend there is smiling like she knows something that you're not telling us.
	I don't think it no.
	Okay, good.
	See, I can figure out who's saying what by their friend's reaction.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Because I saw her react to something she said, and I saw her react to something else.
	She was on a kind of like a dating show.
	You were on the dating show?
	So she was going on dates with different guys to find that guy.
	The love of my life.
	To find the love of your life?
	Well, yes.
	Supposedly.
	What was the dating show?
	It's a Latino show.
	The Bachelorette?
	No, it's a Latino show.
	Yeah.
	It's like televised.
	Can I say the name?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, it's called Enamorando Nos.
	Oh, my God.
	She knows, I guess.
	She watches.
	She was on the show.
	No, I was on it.
	Really?
	Oh, yeah.
	This is your turn, so yeah.
	But yeah, I did a dated that guy from that show for a month and a half.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I've been single for like six years.
	The longest relationship was about almost four, four years.
	Were you married?
	Hell no.
	Hell no.
	Uh-uh.
	I never get married.
	I've been proposed to twice.
	And I took the ring and then I sold it.
	Both of them.
	Proposed to twice.
	Took the ring, you sold the ring.
	Both of them.
	They were beautiful.
	Got money for them.
	How much did you pawn them for?
	One was like 15 and the other one was almost 2,000.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	So never want to get.
	Do you have kids?
	I have one.
	I have one adult.
	One adult?
	Yeah, he's not a kid anymore.
	How old?
	He's 19.
	Okay, so you were like 21 when you had your 20 when I had him.
	I turned 21 two months after.
	Okay, gotcha.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	So you said you've been single for six years.
	Yeah.
	But I'm sure there's been some people in the picture.
	That I've talked to, yeah.
	Are you currently talking to a guy?
	No.
	There's no guy in the picture.
	No.
	Nothing.
	Nope.
	No sneaky links?
	Nope.
	Zero sneaky links?
	I don't have patience for a guy.
	I'm busy with my life right now, and I just, I don't have the patience for one.
	Okay.
	Zero patience.
	Zero for men.
	Zero.
	Okay.
	Have you sworn men off?
	Have you sworn them off?
	Like, tell them, like, to fuck off?
	No, no, no.
	Like, in general, generally speaking, you've sworn off men.
	Like, you just no longer want to.
	No, I mean, I'm pretty sure the perfect one will come along.
	The right one will come along.
	Just right now, they're all trash.
	All men are dating.
	Yeah.
	Why do you say that?
	Because a lot of them, a lot of them, I've had try to come at me where I would find out they were married or they had girlfriends because I'd all of a sudden get random people messaging me.
	How do you know so-and-so?
	You know, and then I'd find out.
	So it's like, it's just garbage.
	Okay.
	So she says all men are trash.
	Pretty much.
	I mean, I'm pretty sure there's like a percent there that that's not.
	Sure.
	You'd say more so trash than not trash.
	What percentage would you have to say?
	Like, what percentage of men are trash, do you think?
	What percent?
	All ages, honey, because I have, there's young guys that try to come to me, older guys that try to come to me, and they're just.
	You're saying all men that you have dealt with are trash?
	Are you making a projection that you think the men that you haven't communicated with yet are trash?
	All the guys that have tried to come towards me are trash.
	Just a reminder, everybody, just try to speak into the microphones if you can, get close to them.
	So what percentage?
	90%, 95%?
	Like, let's say 7.77%.
	90, yeah.
	90%.
	Because I'm going to leave a small percentage because there probably is good guys out there.
	But then if they're the good guys, then they're boring.
	You know, it's just, it's kind of.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	You know, there could be the good guys that do try to come and talk to me, and they're just.
	You don't like the good guys?
	What do you?
	I mean, okay, I like him to be, I wish there was a solid guy, right?
	Like a funny, solid guy that has things going for himself, has all the things that I have going for myself.
	But it's like you either get a good guy and he's boring, or you get a guy who's not boring but he's trashy.
	Where are you meeting these guys?
	Just everywhere, huh?
	If I'm out everywhere, where are they approaching me?
	It doesn't matter.
	I could be at a store.
	I could be anywhere.
	What's the first thing they say to you when they approach you?
	Do you have a man?
	What's the next one?
	Can I get your number?
	What's your name?
	Are you from here?
	And I'm assuming that at least one of those guys, you've given your number out and you've communicated.
	No, I won't give them my number.
	I'm saying at some point you've communicated with somebody.
	Not them.
	Not them.
	Okay.
	What makes them boring?
	Personality.
	What about their personality makes them boring?
	Like if they're just like if they're just like a boring type, that there's no personality.
	They're not funny.
	They're just very plain, like bland.
	Like, that's boring.
	And what about the bad guy excites you?
	It's the face, right?
	It's the chase.
	And the bad guy, I don't know.
	No, I checked all the crazy.
	Crazy letters.
	Let her answer.
	ahead the bad guy what is it about that I don't know Maybe it is the chase.
	I don't know.
	It could be the chase.
	It could.
	Well, they're exciting.
	It's the looks.
	It's the looks.
	The looks.
	When you say looks, what do you think?
	Are we talking like blasted tattoos?
	Hell yeah, I like tattoos.
	No, not the face tattoos.
	That's what people think I like.
	People think I like face tats.
	I don't like the face tats.
	But I do like a guy with tattoos.
	Do you like a I'm probably the wisest person ever saying this?
	Do you like a gangster?
	Yeah.
	Like a thug.
	Well, that's a problem.
	So then you're going to keep repeating a pattern.
	You already have a pattern, so then you're going to keep seeing the same guy.
	So yeah, so then how do you plan to get a next?
	But that's not true, though, because like I said, there's the boring type of guys that are also tatted up, too.
	And they're not they're not bad.
	They're they're just it's the personality.
	Well, when you say they're boring, how are they?
	Like I said, no personality.
	They're just very bland, you know?
	Not only that, but and then they're like too on me, and I don't like that.
	Okay.
	I don't like when a guy's too much on me.
	You got to speak in some way.
	I think that's like a self-love issue.
	I think sometimes if you don't think that you are like, you got to speak more.
	You go closer, isn't it?
	Sorry.
	I was just saying that I think sometimes if you don't think that you deserve that kind of love, you'll ignore it when it's there.
	And you'll go after the person who's ignoring you because you think that you deserve that.
	But even if you think that you love yourself, sometimes you can do that to yourself.
	I don't know.
	I've done it.
	No, I get what you're saying.
	Yeah.
	Wait, so hold on.
	So you said men are trash.
	Would you say, like, when you say trash, they're like kind of toxic, kind of?
	Oh, yeah.
	They're very toxic.
	But you just said that you dislike boring men and you like men who are like I just wish they were like bad boys and exciting.
	So you are Women often, like, it seems to me that women often complain about men being toxic, but this is the behavior that women reward.
	So, men see this.
	You reward assholes.
	You reward jerks.
	You reward the bad boys.
	So, men will see that.
	There might genuinely be guys that were just always destined to be the bad boys, but some men are going to start acting in a certain way that, like, we're responding to you guys.
	Because we see, okay.
	If like you respond to men treating you poorly, then some men are going to treat you poorly.
	But the men that normally like are bad boys have some degree of game.
	Usually that game comes from they've had lots of practice to like lots of women.
	They have like a decent success rate.
	So I do think like the nice guys and then this type of behavior is training them to become toxic.
	I don't think they would, I don't think they would do that because toxic guys usually are, they're good at what they do.
	Somebody just wants a faithful gangster.
	So a faithful gangster.
	I think that's a lot of diezo.
	That's crazy.
	I mean, not you, but that sentiment seems crazy, a faithful gangster.
	Yeah.
	There's one out there.
	If you had to look at, if you looked in the mirror, you say, what are you in their eyes?
	Like, what do you represent?
	Do you think that you are a nice woman?
	Or you think you are boring?
	You think you're exciting?
	Exciting, all that.
	Yeah, not boring.
	Hold on, man.
	Lisa Cheeks donated $100.
	Officer Tatum, please preach to the panel how delusional these women are and to bring them back into reality.
	And how can you tell a man without speaking to him?
	A man approaching a woman is him wanting you to know him without being rude.
	Majority time.
	Yo, Cheeks, thank you very much, man.
	Appreciate it.
	And Officer Tatum, please preach.
	Please preach.
	So, sorry, I think you were responding before.
	What I'm trying to bring out is that what are you presenting to attract these men who are, you say, are trashy?
	And then what do you represent for a man?
	Just say the man that you want.
	Why would he want you would be the biggest question?
	Why would he want me?
	Because I have a lot going for myself.
	Right.
	And I'm loyal, and I don't do people dirty.
	When you say you have a lot going for yourself, what do you mean by that?
	I have my, like I said, I'm a real estate agent.
	I have my dental.
	Like, I have all these things going for me.
	I'm working on my insurance broker's license.
	Like, I have a lot going for me.
	And but do you think men are really preoccupied with your success or what you bring to the table financially?
	I mean, yeah.
	Do you think it makes it's good?
	I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but do you think it makes you more attractive to men?
	Yeah.
	Who do you, okay.
	I do want to get everybody's answer on the relationship stats thing, but really quick, just to finish off this thread.
	Who should pay on the first date?
	The guy.
	What about the second date?
	I got it.
	Oh, you'll get the second date.
	I got it.
	What about like moving forward?
	Do you still, you want it to be more 50-50 moving forward?
	I mean, if I feel that like he's worth it, like, I got it.
	Like, I'll take care of it.
	Or, like, if he got it, you know, because I'm very, like, I'm a very chill person.
	I don't expect the guy to pay for everything all the time.
	Why not?
	Why not?
	Because I just, I don't.
	Like, I just, I don't think a guy should have to always pay for everything.
	Like, a guy, doesn't it feel good if your girl was to take you out one time?
	No.
	No?
	Not for me.
	For a lot of men.
	It don't feel good.
	I mean, I'm the man.
	I'm the woman.
	You're the man.
	Yeah, but once in a while, if she was to surprise you as well.
	No, I don't need to surprise.
	My whole goal, my whole mission with my, I'm married now, but with dating or even marriage is my whole mission is to take care of the woman.
	And so, every date that we go on, if we go on a date, I'm paying for it.
	And if I can't pay for it, we ain't going on a date, I guess.
	So, I just think it's my duty to do that.
	It's disrespectful to me for me to have a woman pay on any date.
	If I can't afford it, I shouldn't be dating.
	Unless she surprises you, right?
	Excuse me.
	Unless she surprises you, like, hey, babe, we're going this place.
	And it's like a surprise.
	Like, they have candles and everything, and she's paying for it.
	She makes you believe that you're going to pay for it, but she already has everything paid.
	Well, yeah, if that happens.
	JB estimates $69.
	What she just explained is exactly the problem.
	There's plenty of good men out there, but they're labeled boring and not exciting.
	It could be possible that your mindset towards relationships is trash as opposed to solely just men.
	Do you got a response to JBS here?
	They are.
	They're going hard in the chat.
	I mean, I think it's something to consider.
	The question is: do you want to be in a relationship?
	Do you want to be a relationship at all?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	Then that makes sense.
	Then that explains that God is a little bit more.
	I'm much happier.
	Yeah, I'm just, I'm happy being alone.
	Later on in life, maybe, but right now.
	How much later?
	There's no time.
	If it happens, it happens.
	I'm not looking for it.
	I'm not worried about that.
	Well, the point I was kind of trying to make is that, and it sounds like you're kind of open to 50-50 if the whether that's the case or not, I don't know.
	But a lot of women will say, well, here's what I bring to the table.
	I've got a really good job.
	My finances are in place.
	But then they're still going to expect the guy to be the provider.
	So men aren't typically looking for women to be providers.
	So your success in your career and your job, that's wonderful.
	That's great for you.
	But from a purely physical, like, not excuse me, from a traction point of view, your job does not make you, typically for women, does not make you more attractive.
	It's fantastic.
	Good.
	You got a great job.
	You've got your shit together.
	That's wonderful.
	But it's not going to make you more attractive.
	For example, in the same way, and I'll get you here in just a sec.
	A lot of women would say a male doctor is a catch, but I don't think most men would look at a female doctor.
	Hey, that's a great career.
	Congratulations.
	But I don't think it makes her more attractive.
	What was your?
	So what do you think men are looking for in terms of finding a high-value woman?
	Well, it's certainly not your career.
	Yeah, I think it's the way that you act, the way you treat a man.
	You know, how it is clichéish, but are you a soft woman?
	Are you supportive of a man?
	Are you bringing peace to his life?
	Are you chaotic, right?
	Are you drama, drama, drama?
	Are you the type of woman that, like my wife, when I go home, I'm going home to peace.
	I'm not going home to chaos.
	I'm not going home to a dirty house.
	I'm going home to peace.
	And if you're that woman, that's what men truly are looking for.
	I mean, they want to be in a real relationship.
	There's other things that men are looking for when they just want a one-night or they want a sneaky kiki or whatever you say.
	What is it?
	Sneaky links.
	We should introduce that as a new term.
	Sneaky.
	Sneaky kiki.
	Can I say one thing, please?
	To baby back.
	I think that there's also some, and I'm not saying that a woman doctor, but also the fact that they value the fact that they can have a conversation with her about things like if he's a doctor as well, that they can have a conversation together.
	And the fact that if she is, for example, a psychologist, that he will be able to bring, you know, raise children in a matter of way with like coping skills or, you know, self-soothing.
	Those are just like things that I feel that a man should also look into that as to another woman who probably is just doing, you know, other things that, you know, probably will bring peace to the house.
	Are you looking for a good mother or a good wife when you're actually looking for a wife?
	Like, are you looking more for motherly qualities first and foremost or wifely?
	I think they're both.
	I think they're both synonymous.
	I mean, if you're wife, a good wife would be a good mother.
	A good mother would be a good wife.
	I can't imagine a woman that's really, well, and then people can mess that up, I think.
	But I think generally speaking, a man is looking for a person with both of those qualities.
	And work and working sometimes is very, like, if a woman has got a career, like you just said, you said your career is important to you.
	You're too busy for a man.
	You know, the man that probably would want to date you, it gets turned off by that because you don't have no time for the relationship.
	You're too busy doing that.
	Now, he's not mad at you.
	He don't feel any way about you.
	He just will be with a woman who has the time, who can spend the time with him and add value to his life versus competing with the woman for whose career is more important.
	I don't think that's like competition.
	I think it adds up to the value of the woman if she's doing good in life.
	You know, if she has a nice job or like she has a company or anything.
	Yeah, it depends on what you want.
	Go ahead.
	I'm sorry.
	Why?
	Why?
	Because you want to be successful for yourself as well.
	Like, of course, if I marry someone, yeah, I want him to take care of me.
	But if I also have the money and I have a company, I can also work and we can both be successful.
	Well, to that point, you have to.
	Like, this is something that I think gets undermined where women are told men don't care about your job, fine.
	But then we have to provide for ourselves because we're getting married later.
	So then we're living this lifestyle where like, okay, I have a certain career.
	I make a certain amount of money.
	I get used to that.
	And then I do, if I want to keep that, I mean, I guess I could go be a waitress and just really focus on getting a man.
	But if I want to keep that, I want to keep my job.
	And then the man thinks I have less time for him.
	But that's not true.
	You know, so we're in this weird place.
	Yeah, no, I agree.
	I think you got, I agree to some of what you said.
	I think it is, you are in a difficult place because when you are single, you can't just be homeless.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	You know, hoping for a man to give you a handout.
	It's okay with pursuing your career, but then you have to balance what are your values and what do you want from a man.
	If you want a man, what if he wants children?
	What are you guys going to do?
	Beats outfit together.
	As a practicing male feminist and a believer in feminism, I love dating a career woman and due to the oppression of women.
	I love how the feminist side ain't always pay for my dates.
	Go matriarchy.
	We love career women and the boss babe mentality.
	All right.
	Thank you, Bethan Cheeks.
	Sorry, we actually, the TTS trigger is 99.
	We accidentally did not reset it back, so we're changing that now.
	Thank you, Cheeks.
	Appreciate it.
	Did you have more on that point?
	Yeah, I was just saying, I understand that women got to work to that point, but then you have to balance, you know, what do you want out of life when it comes to having a man?
	If you want to be single, that's totally great.
	You can do, you know, do you be single?
	That's fine.
	But you can't depend on a guy.
	No, you can't, but you have to make the investment.
	If you want to be married and you want a guy that's a good man, that's a man that had value, then it's worth the investment.
	You know, my wife had an incredible job.
	She made more money than me when we first started out.
	But then, you know, when we got together, we made the decision that she will stay at home and take care of the babies, and I'll go out and make it happen.
	And that's the agreement that we made.
	And she walked away from her job.
	She walked away from her good parents.
	That's cool.
	But nothing in life lasts forever.
	So let's say something happened to you.
	What does she have?
	Well, of course, we got life insurance.
	I have an incredible business.
	She'll be fine if something happened to me.
	But we don't live life, you know, like that.
	We live life believing in God, believing things are going to go well, and we're going to pursue that to the very end.
	So we'll see how it works out.
	I would hate to be living life wondering if something's going to happen instead of pursuing excellence.
	And then, you know, obviously most people, they're not going to have a catastrophic thing happen in their life.
	But that's what we have pursued and it's been working out really well.
	Also, and just on the whole boring thing, bringing it back to women being attracted to bad boys, men who are exciting, jerks, assholes, whatever.
	I think the more appropriate term is women will reinforce that behavior because that's what they typically reward.
	And women will even say it themselves, I'm attracted to bad boys.
	So if you say that, and that's the type of guy you go for, you ought not be surprised when the bad boy that you choose to pursue, because women have agency, women have autonomy, You should not be surprised when that guy turns out to be a cheater, asshole, jerk, whatever it may be.
	If that's what you're attracted to, because I think women are, it's interesting though.
	Like, to me, it's not clear why women view men not only as companions, as romantic partners, as providers, but also there's this almost this added expectation that we are your entertainers, too.
	Sam donated $99.
	Brandon, how can you make hit pieces against the red pill but show up on a red pill podcast?
	I didn't see that.
	I think that's the same red pill talking points.
	Hypocritical.
	I have no idea what he just said.
	He says you made a hit piece against the red pill, but show up on a red pill podcast.
	Is it a red pill podcast?
	I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	Pink pill.
	Thank you for the chat.
	Yeah, thank you, Alvin.
	I'm happily married, and I'm just giving my personal experience about what's going on.
	I mean, I don't have to be red pill, green pill, pink pill.
	I'm just a man giving an experience with being in a relationship.
	Obviously, I had been married my whole life, so I've had experiences being single, experiences being in college.
	And now with all of that experience together, it has helped me realize the importance of marriage.
	And these are the things that I value, and this is why I'm in the marriage and I'm not single.
	Yeah.
	And by the way, I mean, we bring on people who have different viewpoints.
	Not, you know, I have my own views.
	I bring on people that disagree with me.
	I don't know where me and Brandon necessarily agree or disagree on various topics, but it's good to have conversation.
	So really quick, just on the boring thing.
	I mean, you mentioned player.
	Somebody mentioned players.
	I think.
	I mean, I think that's why women fall for players because they're not boring typically.
	But so I think boring can be a good thing.
	Obviously, you should be able to have a conversation with somebody.
	But I don't know.
	I don't think we as men, we're not your entertainers.
	Go watch Netflix.
	That's my view.
	Like, I don't know.
	I don't exist to make others feel entertained at all times.
	We're not obliged to be clowns when on a date.
	And also, bored people are boring.
	Okay.
	Did somebody have something else?
	Otherwise, I'd like to continue with you.
	I would like to say, the reason why we don't like boring is because most of us grew up in this.
	Stop for just a sec.
	Okay.
	Please just talk into the mic.
	Please, please talk to me.
	You got it.
	You got it.
	I'll bring it closer.
	Okay.
	Most of the reason why women want to find exciting or like adrenaline-like roller coaster relationships is because Alvin Sam donates $99.
	Brandon, for example, your hit piece is against Fresh and Fit, who also use the same talking points you just said.
	I'm not going to, I have my opinions about Fresh and Fit.
	I'm not going to get into that.
	Maybe we will later, but I didn't see it.
	I don't see the video either.
	Yeah, just to me, it's not necessarily a hit piece.
	You know, it's that I'm a mature man.
	I'm an adult, and some of the things that Fresh and Fit says, I disagree with them because I think they come from a very immature place.
	They come from very, they sound like they come from a broken place.
	It seems like it's always bashing women, you know, like a broken clock.
	I feel like they write twice a day, no matter on their podcast.
	But overall, man, the way they talk about women, the way they view men.
	I just saw a clip of Fresh and Fit just recently, and the guy gave this young man such horrible advice about a woman.
	And that I guess the woman wasn't giving him what he deserved.
	So he told him to go get a side chick and double-dip these women like that.
	Now, it sounds cute to young, immature men, but in reality, that's not the way you treat women, and that's not the way you operate as a man.
	That's that leads you to devastation.
	And younger men like Fresh and Fit, immature men, like they appear to be, they don't understand that.
	And so that's why I have criticism of some of the things they say.
	Gotcha.
	Well, we can certainly try to get into that a little bit later on in the show.
	You had a point, Guy?
	Yeah, I'm almost done.
	So we tend to come, most of us actually come, had sometimes, it doesn't mean that you were traumatized or abused.
	We had emotional dysregulation when we were young at some point in school at home.
	So we come, we like familiar things.
	Most of us didn't learn how to cope with these emotions.
	So what we find attractive and fun is those exciting playmates.
	That's where the attachment styles come from.
	Anxious attachment.
	The other ones, the avoidant attachment.
	So those are the exciting guys we like.
	So when a nice guy comes around and is actually wanting to say, hi, let's go on a date and let's go on a date.
	He's actually not being clingy.
	He's actually treating you right and wanting to be with you.
	And that's what we find clinging.
	And the other ones that are avoiding us, those are the ones that we are actually chasing.
	So we find the normal, the toxic normalized in our lives.
	So those, what Brian said is actually right.
	Boring guys are the normal things and they aren't our entertainers.
	We're supposed to make ourselves happy and exciting.
	And they are just supposed to bring us, you know, whatever they bring us, you know, conversation or whatever.
	So he makes a really good point right there.
	So that was just my little two cents.
	But I think chemistry is important and mutual attraction is important.
	And recently, I mean, I was dating someone for two months and they were the perfect person every way.
	But there was no, I couldn't, the mute, the mutual attractiveness just wasn't there.
	And so it didn't work.
	Was he not physically attractive?
	I think, no, I think he's a handsome guy.
	Maybe I should say chemistry for us.
	That it wasn't sparking.
	So chemistry.
	What is the chemistry?
	What is the spark?
	I don't know, but what I've learned is that you need it.
	I wish it was to my chagrin that the spark didn't go off.
	But it is just, I think it's that thing that makes you just that draws you to that person initially.
	And so was he kind to you?
	He was incredible.
	He is the most incredible guy.
	Everything was perfect.
	And I like was like, I was like, what is wrong with myself?
	Yeah, what is wrong with you?
	I don't know.
	What is wrong with you?
	I even asked all my friends.
	I was like, what is it off?
	We mutually decide.
	I went to Montana for a month and we didn't talk for a week and then we called and we were like, yeah, I think he felt less pressure during that week of silence because he felt like he was constantly trying to make me impress me.
	And then, and I wasn't, I just wasn't pressed.
	I wasn't like thinking about him.
	And so that's how I knew.
	So, I mean, amazing guy, but it just, I don't know.
	Unless I gaslit myself subconsciously and didn't know.
	Yeah, you can.
	I mean, I think that everybody looks for that spark at the honeymoon stage and all of that.
	You know, over time, you realize that it's not about that.
	It's that, you know, a lot of relationships you get in, you have that spark, and then it goes away with everybody.
	I mean, I thought three or four women were the one, and we didn't, and it ended up, it didn't end up materializing.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that was just a bad thing.
	Oh, I was like, shut up.
	No, keep talking.
	That's like it did materialize.
	And I say me and my wife.
	Oh, actually, one did come in.
	Okay, I'll go.
	Brandon, love your channel.
	Love your t-shirts.
	Currently, wearing my pronouns are USA, but my favorite is the Donald.
	Please show the Donald t-shirt on the channel.
	Plus, Brian, when are you going out with Layla?
	Oh, gosh.
	Uh-oh.
	Uh-oh.
	The Donald.
	Do you have one?
	Yeah, I actually wore it on the airplane, but it's the Donald Trump show.
	He's a gangster.
	He got tattoos and stuff.
	Everybody loves that show.
	Yeah, so as far as Layla goes, just to clue anybody in here at the table or people watching who have no idea, Layla is a woman who's been pursuing me, I guess.
	But she does like she does porn.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, that's a no.
	Yeah, no, no, no.
	So I've rejected her like a dozen times, and she, it's all, it's honestly kind of, she's harassing me at this point.
	Is it because she does porn?
	Huh?
	Is it because she does porn that you don't want?
	Yeah, that's just done deal.
	It's a red, like, deal breaker, 100%.
	She also has an IQ of 70.
	Well, let's not be mean here.
	Okay, but she's a nice girl.
	She's nice.
	I just watched the podcast with her on.
	She's a nice girl, but yeah, it's just, I know, it's not going to happen.
	So, yeah, you got to have some discipline, right?
	Okay, so sorry that interrupted you.
	If you want to.
	No, no, I told the person who did the super chat, appreciate you, my brother.
	Thank you for buying the merch.
	What I wanted to say is that me and my wife didn't have this crazy honeymoon stage.
	We knew, though, we knew.
	We were like, we just make sense together.
	And I was with 34, she was 36, 37 when we got together.
	So we knew, but it wasn't some miraculous sparkling in our eyes that we encountered.
	It was more of a mature, we're in the same place in life.
	We enjoy one another's company and we want to pursue life together.
	It didn't have to be some crazy shenanigans.
	But I'm not saying that people don't deserve that.
	But you just don't want to overlook an incredible man that can add value to your life just because you don't feel that spark.
	You know, I'm not trying to be a counselor on here, but at the same time, you may want to revisit it because it's rare to find a man that you feel that way about and that you that's a really good man.
	Really good men are hard to find, to be quite honest.
	The same thing with women.
	If you're a really good, incredible woman, you know, that chemistry would be hard to find.
	Yeah, that's to almost some degree the vibe.
	There's a whole bunch of words for it.
	The vibe, the click, the spark, the butterflies, the lightning, all these terms for it, right?
	I almost wonder, and at least it's the case for me.
	It seems to be it's more so something that women need is the click or the spark.
	But why can't that either be something that develops?
	Because I think that the click or the spark is almost in the same category as love at first sight.
	Most of us would agree that we don't immediately fall in love with somebody.
	So why can't it also be the case that we just don't immediately fall into the click?
	Maybe that could be something that can take time to develop.
	People, because they've had it in the past, where, oh, I have it, I feel the click, the spark instantly.
	They feel like they need that in all their relationships going forward.
	My question is: if the click or the chemistry or the vibe, the spark, whatever term you want to use, is you felt that with the guy before.
	Has every girl here felt that with the guy before?
	Okay.
	Yes.
	That obviously, it's apparent to me.
	I think, well, we haven't gone through the relationship status on everyone.
	You're no longer with that guy.
	It's clear to me that the click, the spark, the whatever it is, like for you, for example, have you ever felt the click with a guy and it ended really badly?
	Yes.
	So it's not clear to me if having the click and the chemistry precludes you from the relationship continuing from having a good relationship.
	So I don't know.
	I don't, well, whatever.
	Yeah, I think communication is key too.
	Because, I mean, maybe both of you guys are going through something.
	Maybe you got out of a tumultuous relationship, but maybe you got some stuff you need to take care of with, you know, whether it's going to counseling or whatever the case may be.
	And so does he.
	It's a conversation that you guys probably should have is have a conversation with each other and then get back on the same page.
	Because me and my wife, we were friends first.
	And so we would talk about all our stuff first.
	I never thought about dating a day in my life.
	I would never move to California.
	So it seems as if we weren't going anywhere.
	But we developed a friendship first.
	And then we knew.
	And it was practical.
	Women are emotional.
	Not every woman, but most women are emotional.
	So that emotional thing is what draw you to somebody.
	But you have to at some point go beyond the emotions, get to practical.
	And then you can, you know, I think you'll find a better fit with you and somebody.
	I tried to be friends.
	That was what I wanted.
	And then, but now he's dating someone else.
	So sad.
	But I also think that that spark.
	Because when he was thinking about him, I was like, maybe it should just, you know.
	But, well, first, it was hurting him that I was not able to reciprocate the same like passion.
	And so I didn't want to hurt him.
	So that was like, so that's when I thought, let's be friends and maybe that friendship will develop, you know.
	But he went and found another girl.
	Hey, good for him.
	I also think like that spark for women also, that's a bond that forms when you're sexually active.
	So like we weren't, we're Christians.
	We're not trying to do that.
	And so that also, and sometimes I would think, man, if this was like an arranged marriage, it would just have to happen.
	And then the spark would come eventually and then it'd be great.
	Yeah.
	But.
	But you already know the spark could be devastating.
	I'm with you.
	Yeah.
	Wait, I'm just a little confused.
	So you said you're Christian, but the spark typically will come when you're sexually active with a person.
	Yeah.
	You weren't sexually active with him, but you said you've had the spark or the click with other men.
	Wait, so you're not sexually active.
	The click is something that occurs when you're sexually active.
	But why were you expecting the click if you're not planning to be sexually active?
	I'm just a little confused.
	Well, for some, sometimes it happens on a, like when you kiss a guy, right?
	I'm looking around to see if anyone else agrees.
	When you kiss a guy.
	And it didn't happen when we kissed, but that was really as far as we went.
	I think the sparking comes just from flirting.
	Yeah.
	Just talking to the person.
	And you know how you click.
	Like it doesn't have to be like during sex or kissing or whatever.
	Just, you know, like if you're flirting, the eyes, you know, doing faces.
	Yeah, I think the sex just makes it a plus.
	Yeah.
	And also you can romanticize yourself into that, right?
	I mean, if you listen to love songs 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and you're fantasizing in a hopeless romantic posture, it's almost like when you're looking for it.
	And when that person meets some of those criteria, good looking guy, good job, or whatever the case may be, now you've set yourself up to fall into that romanticized relationship.
	And it's easy to happen, but it's something that most people should avoid.
	Yeah.
	And if I could just, I want to ask the chat a question really quick related to the click, then we will continue with the relationship status.
	The click vibe chemistry, whatever you want to call it.
	I personally think it's not a great thing to look for because I think it has absolutely no bearing on someone's quality as a long-term partner.
	I do think it happens to be the case that this is something that women are looking for more than men.
	Women are chasing this elusive click or whatever it is.
	Fine.
	Me personally, I don't need it on a first date when I'm talking to a girl.
	I'm not like.
	Also, I find people have a very difficult time articulating specifically what chemistry or click or like what it is.
	So, chat, those in the chat, when you're first meeting somebody, one in the chat, if you are looking for the click or the chemistry, or two, if that's really not a concern for you, let's see what the chat says.
	While they're doing that, let's continue with the relationship status here.
	So, I think it's your turn now.
	I'm in a relationship, and I've been for five years.
	Five years?
	Okay.
	All right.
	How does he you do adult content, right?
	So, how does he feel about that?
	Oh, sorry, sorry, hold on.
	Just donated $99.
	Thank you, man.
	Brandon, love your channel.
	Got many of your t-shirts.
	Currently wearing my pronouns are USA.
	But my favorite is the Donald.
	Please show the Donald on the show.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I wish I had it with me, brother.
	I'm sorry.
	It's a cool shirt, though.
	I should have worn my one.
	I wanted to put Jesus out here, but I guess Donald is more important than Jesus to some people.
	I'm just joking.
	So, how does your boyfriend feel that you do adult content?
	He's cool with it.
	He helps you.
	Yeah, he actually, he's the one that told me to do it.
	So, like, if I wanted to, and do you shoot content with other men?
	No.
	Okay.
	And you wait, remind me, it's just solo content?
	Or you do?
	Do you shoot content with your boyfriend or no?
	No.
	Okay.
	So he encouraged you to start OF doing OF.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	What about you?
	Looking at her.
	Looking at her.
	I am single.
	My last relationship ended in January 2022.
	So it's been a minute.
	Last relationship ended January 2022.
	Okay.
	So he was the amazing guy.
	He was the last, I was in love with him.
	He was the last guy I was in love with.
	So it's been almost a year and nine months.
	Two years almost.
	I'm not judging.
	No, no, no, I don't think I'm judging.
	It's interesting.
	It's interesting.
	Well, it's interesting.
	Noted that you say you were in love with him.
	I wonder what happened.
	What happened?
	Why did he dump you?
	Okay.
	So.
	He can read your mind.
	He can read your mind.
	This is the thing.
	Maybe you can explain this.
	He came on.
	We started.
	He came on really strong and was very.
	He was 30 when we started dating and I was his first ever girlfriend.
	Which made me feel like, oh my gosh, I'm the chosen one.
	But that's a lie.
	Not until he puts a ring on your finger.
	Are you the chosen one?
	Anyways, and so he likes, but he was gonna, he stayed in North Carolina for me.
	He did all these things.
	It was really great.
	Things were fine.
	And then about like a year in, I brought him to meet my family in Massachusetts.
	And a week later, he broke up with me.
	He told me he was moving to Montana.
	And he didn't want to date me anymore.
	Did they do something specific?
	He said, so my parents are both Christian.
	He was not a Christian, which was your biggest right there.
	I know you should already know that we're going to go on.
	I know.
	I know.
	So you shouldn't be surprised.
	We'll come back to that.
	Thank you, Jacob.
	Appreciate it.
	Hey, Brandon, I really want to hear how the women respond.
	If you asked your wife to make you a sandwich, what did she do?
	To the women on the panel, do you find it demeaning for a man to ask you to make him a sandwich?
	We'll go around really quick on that.
	Would you find it demeaning?
	No, I don't.
	I don't.
	Me neither.
	Like, I would love to.
	No, I like cooking.
	I'll do it.
	Really?
	Yeah, actually, I will do it.
	I like to cook.
	I'll do it.
	Okay, all right.
	I think it depends on the way they ask.
	Okay.
	I would love to care for my man.
	Yeah, we would make a sandwich.
	Yeah.
	Just a sandwich.
	Yeah, my wife would make a sandwich and she would bring it to me in the bed if I wanted to.
	And it's not some type of, you know, where I'm a mean husband and I'm controlling.
	It's like my wife loves me and I take care of my wife.
	I'll make sure she's good.
	And that's just reciprocated.
	I once had a situation where this is a girl I'd been dating for about a year.
	She moved in with me.
	I was paying the rent, paying everything.
	And I asked her, I was like sick or something or I don't know.
	And I asked her to go.
	I had some like a knee injury, so it was hard for me to walk and shit.
	So I asked her to go cut me some cucumbers.
	Not exactly make a sandwich.
	And she like, I think she kind of had an issue with it.
	She had a foot.
	How did you ask her?
	I was like, no, I wasn't rude.
	I was just like, I was like, hey, well, she was aware that I was injured.
	I was like, hey, I got some cucumbers in the fridge.
	Do you think you could like prep them for me?
	Even if you're not paying for rent or anything, like you're my boyfriend, I'll like help you.
	You just had a surgery or anything.
	She had the feminist mind virus in her head.
	And she like, I could tell she kind of wanted to do it, but then like the programming kind of like, whoa, she glitched out.
	She thought I was the shit.
	She's like, wait, feminism.
	Like, fuck.
	Am I supposed to do this?
	Yeah, so.
	Feed an injured man.
	It was kind of like, it was literally like her brain went.
	That shit restarted.
	And I was like, and that's when I knew.
	So she didn't do it.
	Well, she ended up doing it, but I think she did it begrudgingly.
	It was like a begrudging.
	I could tell by like the chops and the cucumbers.
	It was super begrudging.
	And then I ended that shit.
	Okay, so I mean, okay, anyways, moving on.
	Where were we?
	Relationship.
	Oh, we were talking about your guy that you were in love with, met your parents.
	Well, boyfriend.
	Not just like, I mean, we were boyfriend, girlfriend.
	Yeah.
	Were you intimate?
	Yes.
	Was it love or was it lust?
	Okay.
	He wasn't a Christian.
	I know.
	I know.
	And so the red flag of not being a Christian for a Christian woman.
	Yeah.
	You overlooked that.
	Yes, I did.
	Because of intimacy.
	The Holy Spirit was like, girl, no.
	But the intimacy.
	You said after a year, he met your parents.
	Did you wait that long?
	I met his parents the week after we became official and he met mine.
	Were you afraid for him to meet your parents because you knew he was a Christian?
	Right.
	Yeah.
	So here's the other thing.
	So my older sister has severe autism.
	So she lives at home with my family, with my parents.
	And my dad is very servant-hearted.
	And so he really cares for my mom and my older sister.
	And like, in a way that's very sacrificial.
	And I think when my ex saw that, so what he said to me is he was like, I wouldn't be able to care or provide for you the way that your dad provides for you and your mom.
	So that was a good thing.
	It was a good thing.
	Yeah, I know.
	Yeah.
	So it hurt.
	And that's the problem when you go after someone, you can like, without being thoughtful about it or intentional, you can end up in a lot of pain.
	Yeah.
	Wait, so has your standard now changed when it comes to, because you said the previous guy you were dating for like a month or two did not have sex with him?
	No, no.
	Is a Christian guy?
	Was he a Christian?
	Yes, he was, yeah.
	So now I don't talk to guys.
	Like, if they don't go to church, they don't actively go to a church, they're not actively pursuing the Lord.
	I don't even talk to them because in my mind, I'm like, why am I going to put myself through that pain again?
	That's dumb.
	That's a good start.
	I know.
	I honestly wish I had seen this podcast three years ago.
	It might have helped because I've been learning about how men think and I'm like, what?
	Anyway, incredible.
	Wait, so, but, so do you have a new standard now, though, when it comes to sex?
	What is your standard now?
	Because previously it was, I don't know, what, three dates or relationship commitments, but now are you waiting?
	Are you waiting until marriage?
	Yes.
	And that was what it was when I started dating my ex.
	And then he just, I don't want to say broke me down, but I.
	But I ended up.
	Come on, take accountability.
	Come on.
	There was, I mean, the accountability was getting in a relationship with a man that doesn't have the same values as me.
	And so he, we had a conversation about it.
	And he was like, that's not something I'm going to be trying to pursue, like, waiting until marriage.
	And then, you know.
	Yeah, but I mean, if you end up pushing your boundaries further and further.
	If you had any qualms about that, then you should have just moved, like broke up with him, not pursued it.
	But I mean, to say that you entered into a romantic relationship with a man who communicated to you that he had no interest in waiting till marriage, is it any surprise that he wanted to have sex with you?
	Well, he said he would be excited.
	No, he was that, no, no, not saying that.
	He was excited by the concept of like what's going to happen today.
	So he was like trying to convey that he was maybe open-minded to it, but he was like, it'll probably be hard after, you know, many months.
	And I was like, okay.
	But yeah, if I could go back and tell myself, like, hey, girl, don't do it.
	Don't do it.
	I would.
	Yeah.
	And what about like previous relationships before that?
	Were you also waiting till marriage or have you also had?
	Once I became a Christian, it was always like, I wait till marriage.
	And I had when I was 19.
	So how many times have you faltered when it comes to this topic?
	A couple.
	But mainly, but I also had multiple, like, serious, like the guy I was in a relationship with before, we didn't do it.
	I think three of them, we would only kiss.
	Okay.
	So it was just, it was, yeah.
	Huh.
	I don't know, the whole like different standard thing I'm kind of conflicted on because on one hand, I think, hey, it's, if you want to wait, that's, hey, good.
	But I think there's going to be a large subset of men that see that and to almost some degree feel scammed.
	Like, okay, this was your standard in the past, but now you've changed after you've already had these indiscretions.
	Now you've changed your standard.
	I think some men's intuition there might be to feel kind of scammed.
	Yeah, and I understand that.
	What I think it shows, demonstrates is like the work that the Holy Spirit's done in my life to sanctify me.
	And so when I first became a Christian, I didn't, I thought we don't have sex before marriage just because it's an arbitrary rule.
	And now I've, now I'm at the point where it's like, I don't want to have sex before marriage because that sin disconnects me from the Lord.
	And I don't want to be disconnected from God.
	I want to be close to him.
	And so I've matured in my view.
	over that time.
	I will say when I was in that relationship, even though I was in love with him, I felt the most disconnected from God.
	And so I knew it was bad.
	But I was like, all of your feelings are just like, ah, so it was, I knew it was a bad decision on my part.
	And it was very painful.
	And I learned.
	Yeah, and I'm not like, I'm not a super religious guy.
	I do consider myself a man of God.
	But I think this is the perspective.
	So when women provide sexual access to previous men more easily, cheaper, let's say, it makes men feel scammed.
	So I'm trying to think, like, for example, in the same way that, let's say you were dating a guy and you found out that his ex-girlfriend, he would get her gifts all the time.
	He would take her on vacations.
	He was a provider.
	But then when he met you, it's like, okay, now I want to do 50-50.
	He will never pay for the first date.
	He never gets you gifts.
	You might feel like he was providing a value to an ex that he's not providing to you.
	And you might feel like, is he just not as into me?
	Is he not, like, what's going on here?
	So I think that's almost how men feel when it comes to a woman who previously, okay, find sex third date.
	And then, oh, now you want to wait three months.
	Now you want to wait until marriage.
	I'm not saying it's, look, ultimately, it's 100% your choice, right?
	You can change how you want to move.
	But I think a lot of men might feel, maybe not Christian men.
	I don't feel like it's not.
	Yeah, we're going to say, what about a man that is trying to also wait until marriage?
	Yeah, no, I think that a lot of men, I agree with what he said, a lot of men do feel that way, but Christian men who are mature, they do not.
	They appreciate that.
	And I guarantee you, most men haven't been perfect either.
	So finding a woman that is at least trying to pursue that and you guys can pursue that together is excellent for a Christian man.
	Like any other man I can't attest to.
	But for a Christian man, I think that that's an incredible value for a woman to have.
	And I think that you have to continue that, you know, when you're in another relationship, pursue that because it means a lot to a man.
	I mean, as a Christian man, it really means a lot.
	Yeah, and I can't speak much on that, but I can give you an analogy.
	I'm going to give you guys an analogy.
	I have it written down here.
	And guys, it's an analogy.
	So I'm not trying to make some weird comparison.
	So making a man wait while in your past you were less, what's the term?
	You gave you had sex much more easily.
	That would be kind of like going to McDonald's and you're in line.
	You're at the cashier.
	There's three, four people in front of you.
	There's other people eating in the McDonald's.
	Everybody bought a cheeseburger for $1.
	The three or four people in front of you bought a cheeseburger for $1.
	When you finally get to the cashier, the cashier says, that'll be $1,000 for you, sir.
	I think that's how men view like women who would just, all the 10, 20, 30, 40 guys she had sex with previously, third date, second date, first date.
	And then when you come along, we're waiting until marriage.
	That's how guys are going to feel.
	Like you're going to feel like, okay.
	Let me mature men don't waste time thinking about what a woman has done.
	Unless you got nudies on the integrity a little bit.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's what we're here.
	Like, unless you got new pictures on the internet or something that cannot be erased, men, a mature man, typically overlooks that.
	I've never asked my wife one time, what was her previous relationship like?
	I don't want to know I don't care.
	You know, I like to believe I'm better than every dude she's been with.
	That's why we married.
	So I don't really waste my time thinking about that.
	I only think about me and her and what we're going to do and build as a family.
	I don't have time to think about it because she ain't going to tell me the truth anyway.
	I'm just being honest.
	Wait, you're watching.
	I doubt.
	No woman.
	She would be honest with me.
	I don't even want to ask because no woman would tell you the truth.
	It's like when I was a cop and I used to pull people over who were drunk.
	I say, well, how many beers you've had?
	Okay, I see what you're saying.
	They'll say, I've had only three beers.
	That means they had like 10 beers.
	Okay, you ask a woman, hey, baby, you know, how many men have you been with?
	Now, if she's ashamed of it, she may say something comfortable for her and she'll leave out the dudes in the middle.
	She'll only go with the relationship, guys.
	So as a man, it's a waste of your time to try to dig into that because it's quite irrelevant.
	Unless we were in a society where everybody was virgins and you really couldn't measure that.
	But we live in a society where I don't know a person that's a virgin.
	And if you are, that's good.
	You should keep your purity.
	That keeps you at the top of the hill.
	But we don't live in that world and I don't care about none of these other dudes.
	Sure.
	And I certainly agree with you that if you, it's hard to say.
	I mean, I do think some women will certainly be truthful.
	Like if you were to point blank ask them, I think they would give you a truthful answer.
	But I think you're also right.
	There's also a large amount of women that they're not going to be, they're not going to count certain people if it was a woman.
	Do you want to know the truth?
	And I don't think, I don't.
	Give me the red pill.
	I want people say that.
	I want the red pill.
	But do they really want to know the truth?
	If your woman told you every situation she's been in, and then it's like, how far do you want her to go?
	Do you want her to tell her what they were doing and how many times?
	They know the details.
	But I wouldn't object to knowing like five, especially I'd like to know early on, okay, how many previous partners has she had?
	That's something I would like to know early on.
	That way I can make a determination.
	Okay, is this acceptable?
	Do I not want to continue dating her because of how many previous partners she's had?
	I'll take the red pill though on that, but I'd rather know.
	If she told you five, if she told you five, she said, I have five guys, right?
	Which is a pretty low number.
	You divide by three.
	She says, I have five guys in a relationship, and you go, yes, I love you.
	We could do this.
	I can deal with five dudes, right?
	And then, you know, you're five, six years in, you now are engaged or whatever the case may be.
	I think you should get engaged way quicker than that.
	But I'm just hypothetically speaking.
	Five years in, you're engaged and she go, hey, I just want you to know I was afraid to really tell you the real number and it's actually 15.
	Now, would you divorce her?
	Or would you say, I wish I didn't know that?
	Because I loved you and I built a relationship.
	We're married at this point.
	You didn't bought the ring, brother.
	You didn't have to.
	Everybody that came and celebrated.
	Are you going to divorce her?
	Or are you going to say, I have to either accept the 15 or I have to wish she never told me the truth?
	Well, I'll say this.
	She's got to go.
	She has to go.
	Do not.
	She really does.
	Divorce.
	You say it, but you won't.
	It's very difficult to do that.
	You already built a bond.
	So the marriage thing definitely makes it more complicated, but let's.
	Because you love her for more than who she slept with.
	Right.
	Let me say you, you begin to do that.
	I'm not saying, and then let me be clear.
	Let me be clear because I know people are going to eat me up in the comment section.
	How many people you sleep with does matter.
	It really does because it creates trauma.
	And the guy may not know, but when you get in a relationship with him and things are falling apart and y'all arguing and you think he's cheating on you, all of that trauma that you never told him about from all those relationships, it begins to snowball.
	So you want to not be involved in that.
	So, but I will say, it would be very difficult for you to just walk away because you've developed something that's a lot more important than a sexual encounter with her, which many of them she probably don't even, she probably really don't have a connection with anyone.
	Let's say we're engaged, right?
	Because marriage, that introduces a bit more complication to it.
	You got to unwant, you got to do the divorce.
	I would say, though, even in the marriage, if she lied to me about that, me personally, that one, it's not just her body count, it's that she lied about it.
	That sets off some alarms for me.
	Engagement, off for sure, in a relationship, 100, like, yes.
	She did everything, everything else.
	She was everything that you wanted.
	Doesn't matter.
	She was respectful.
	She was beautiful.
	She cleaned.
	She make your sandwiches even when your leg was hurting.
	I mean, everything that you want in a woman.
	I mean, and then just that little, that body count thing will cause you to break off the engagement.
	Well, that's why I think they should be honest from the jump.
	That way, okay, the body count is this.
	That way you can opt out pretty early on.
	I don't think you should lie in the same way that I like, I don't think people should be lying to each other.
	I think it's a pretty bad bad thing to be said to be.
	But she gave an excuse.
	She said, I was afraid because you guys were a perfect couple.
	And she knew that if she told you the truth, even though you guys would be great, that you would leave her.
	And so that's why she lied.
	And she was right because you guys were perfect.
	And then she had to return to the city.
	Somebody likes they're going to do it again.
	That is very true.
	Let me ask the ladies here.
	But that's different.
	Let me ask the ladies here on this, though.
	If your guy told you his financial position, baby, I don't have any debt.
	And then after you get married, you find out that he has $400,000 of debt.
	but I didn't want to tell you because we're so perfect for each other and I didn't want it to.
	But what is a virtue that you, that you like low body count doesn't mean you're pure.
	Low body count doesn't mean you have the virtue of purity.
	It's a proxy for purity.
	It's a proxy, but it doesn't necessarily mean that because I believe that you can have the virtue of purity and have a higher body count, but you've actually cultivated it.
	Wait, so hold on.
	You're saying like you could have a high body count like 100 previous sexual partners and still be pure?
	Like pure, you can't rewind.
	I mean, I just like to have a number, though.
	What's the body count number?
	Like, what do you, what do you ladies deem as a low body count, a mid-level body count?
	Are you out of control?
	You out of control.
	Below five, I think, is a low body count.
	Below five.
	Below two.
	15 is low?
	Yeah.
	Here, we'll go around the table.
	What's a low, low body count?
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, like 15.
	Below five.
	Same two.
	Below her.
	Below five?
	Below 15.
	Two to three.
	Okay.
	So four is medium body count?
	Four to seven.
	Four to seven.
	And then more than eight is getting into high for you?
	For the streets.
	I think you answered.
	What about you?
	Into the mic.
	Yeah, I don't.
	I think anything more than three sounds like two.
	Wow.
	The question is, see, I can't answer it for you guys, but what do you think about men's body count?
	What is a low, mid, and high body count?
	Well, that's acceptable for you and a man if he told you.
	I really don't care.
	Oh, I do.
	I really don't care because I feel like your mind can change.
	Maybe you get to, maybe he can have 100 and then he gets to the point where he's like, you know what?
	I'm tired of smashing these girls.
	Like, I just really want a wife.
	I think it goes the same for me, like five-ish, you know, like if he passes like 15, that's too much.
	That's like too much.
	I just, I don't want to know.
	Are we doing the first one is women and this one's men?
	I would say 15.
	If you found out her body count is higher than previously stated, she lied through a mission to secure your dollar.
	If she lies about that, what else will she lie about?
	Morals are inversely proportional to a woman's body count.
	What?
	Back to the streets with her.
	I think that's funny, but I think in a very linear way of thinking, that could be true.
	But there's different components in life that people live.
	And sometimes people may not be always honest about certain things, but it depends on what's important to you.
	Oh, of course.
	No, no, I talk too much.
	Now, actually, there is a brain, because I like that you said that there is trauma when it's involved.
	That if you guys have a high body count, you're more prone to have mental illnesses like trauma, PTSD, insomnia, personality disorders, mood disorders.
	But there's actually now you can see a brain, like your brain, and there's like, you can map it and see if you're actually more promiscuous than a brain.
	Like when you see like a psychopath's brain, you can actually see if you're more promiscuous than another brain.
	Who'd you hear that from?
	I can send you guys the, I can show you guys the article actually right after.
	Yeah, I actually brought it along.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I've never, I'm not.
	Now you can check it out, Brian, and check if they're lying to you about their promiscuity.
	I never asked a woman, I normally base what I think based on the way they act.
	If a woman is very, very, I mean, first date, she's trying to get down and dirty, then it leads me to believe she probably do this with a lot of other men.
	If a woman is a little more reserved, even mention that, hey, I want to wait till I'm married to have sex, I'll perceive that women don't have a crazy body count, and I just leave it at that.
	I mean, that's just, that's just me because I don't want to know.
	Because if a woman told me I had sex with 25 dudes, my mind is never going to let that go.
	Every time I think of her, I'm going to be like, what did I get?
	You see a guy that she used to date and you're like, man, what kind of stuff was y'all doing?
	I don't want to think about that.
	I just want to focus on my relationship.
	But that's just me.
	I know how I am.
	So I'm like, I want to actually, I don't need to know, man.
	If I think you're for the streets, I'm not going to date you anyway.
	So you have to get a lower body count for you for a woman.
	For a woman?
	Yeah, I think around, I don't know.
	I think around about five or so.
	Five.
	Seem to be pretty low.
	10.
	It also depends on age.
	Right.
	Because your per year body count could be crazy.
	You know, you may meet a woman 40 and she's not waiting for marriage.
	I mean, her body count is going to be higher than a girl at 20.
	And if they have the same body count, that means that you maybe not have stretched it out.
	Maybe you're very dense and getting it done.
	You're not going to get a six-year-old.
	Yeah, well, age also, it's definitely obviously if you've been sexually active for a longer period of time, you've had more opportunity to potentially accrue more sexual partners.
	But I mean, I'm sure we all, you went to ASU, right?
	No, University of Arizona.
	Oh, University.
	Wait.
	University of Arizona.
	Oh, Arizona State.
	University of Arizona.
	I got to ask you right here.
	Okay, gotcha.
	I mean, you know, we're very close to UCSB.
	It's one of the top party schools in the United States.
	Some women, their first freshman quarter, they sleep at 30 guys.
	So, you know, a woman who's 18 can have more sexual partners than a woman who's 30, 35, 40.
	So, but it varies.
	It depends.
	I mean, she gets saved.
	I mean, just say, your girl, you got a crazy life like me.
	When I was at college, I went to college, and I was cutting up.
	I was cutting out.
	But when I got saved, it changed a lot in me.
	So I think that's a reset point for me.
	And I'm open for that for women.
	Even if a woman was doing sex work.
	I'm being honest.
	If a woman was doing sex work now, if her stuff is all over the internet, it's difficult for a man to accept that.
	But I can see how a man can forgive a woman if she's giving herself to God and she wants to repent for her old things.
	I wouldn't, but I can see how a person would be open to doing that.
	Like somebody else.
	Yes, you personally, though.
	I couldn't.
	I couldn't.
	Because as a, and I consider myself to be a high-value man.
	I'm very well known.
	I'm all over the internet.
	People recognize me everywhere I go.
	My reputation is on the line.
	Attractive.
	Right.
	Even my beard is all right.
	It's good, but solid beard.
	My barber couldn't get me.
	With a Donald Trump shirt.
	Yeah, with my Donald Trump shirt.
	You see, I'm so famous for the Donald Trump shirt.
	I said, everything I'm doing, just do Donald Trump shirts.
	But, you know, I can't have a woman like that and be married to her because it damages my reputation as a man.
	It does.
	Because I go to a business meeting with a multi-millionaire, a billionaire, which I have before.
	I can't have that lingering over my head of a person possibly seeing my wife naked on the internet or 20 or 30 people or people that I see in the airport.
	Hey, Mr. Tatum, how you doing, man?
	And they got my wife OnlyFans pulled up.
	You know, it's a bad deal.
	They're the clown on.
	I mean, I clown on, I mean, I would feel bad about it.
	It's a big one.
	Here, let's pull up to Twitch really quick, then we'll try to wrap up on the relationship status.
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	Your relationship status.
	I'm currently in a relationship.
	I got back with somebody that I was with.
	We reconnected.
	So we were best friends, like you said.
	And he's Jewish and Christian, and I'm Christian.
	So that's our biggest foundation.
	And our communication and compatibility is what our relationship is based on.
	And like that spark, it comes later.
	It really does.
	And the more that we nourish our relationship, the more that we fall in love with each other.
	So, and I'm in the family mode where we're planning to see, get kids and stuff.
	So I'm in a very happy place right now.
	What about you?
	Just closer to the mic.
	Yeah.
	I am single.
	I call myself a nun when people ask.
	Oh, and my longest relationship was two years.
	Two years.
	And I've had one.
	How long have you been single?
	Since I think either June or July of 2020.
	I think it was July.
	So when you say none, like what you, there's been nothing for what?
	Three years?
	No, there was a guy named...
	There was a guy that I just...
	Well, put him on the internet now.
	Oh, shit.
	He was young.
	Yeah, there was someone I've known since I was, what, like 19 or something like that.
	That?
	Sneaky Link?
	No.
	It was complicated.
	It was a lot.
	Okay, but so you've been single for three years, but in that three-year time period, there was a guy sort of in the picture.
	Yeah, like he, we've talked a couple of times recently, but I just blocked him because it just wasn't.
	Have you guys hooked, do you guys hooked up?
	Like back when I was like 19.
	Okay, so you're saying you bet because you mentioned you're a nun.
	You've been celibate for about three years, 2020, 2021, 2020.
	four years um it was i'd have to look on my snapchat to remember the exact date I left.
	I don't need the exact date.
	You've been celibate for three years?
	Three, four years?
	I've had a few, like.
	Things happened, but not like.
	Consensual, consensual, consensual, okay?
	Zenshi's donated $99.
	Officer Tatum, I appreciate you, but I respectfully disagree.
	God forgives.
	I don't.
	Couple weeks steps showing a direct correlation with body, hash, and divorce.
	She gave herself to the streets without caution.
	No ring for she who devalued herself first.
	That's fair.
	God forgives, I don't.
	I get it.
	I get it, but that's why we are, if you're a Christian, I don't know about everybody else, but you're a Christian.
	You're supposed to be more like God.
	You want to be more like Christ.
	And you should be forgiving.
	The Bible says that if you don't forgive, God won't forgive you.
	And if you're not a forgiving person, you're not going to heaven.
	So if you're not a Christian, then I don't know what to tell you, but as a Christian, you have to, you are forced to forgive.
	You can forgive and not be with a person.
	But at the same time, you have to be in a position to forgive.
	And a lot of people want forgiveness themselves.
	Everybody has made mistakes.
	Everybody's at this table.
	There's not one person that's a virgin at this table.
	And everybody has slept with somebody they regret.
	And one of my biggest regrets is that I didn't wait till I was married.
	And I know a lot of people have those regrets.
	So we want forgiveness.
	We want to get another chance.
	Sometimes you have to experience dating somebody that hurts you for you to know what you really, really want and what you want to accept from a man.
	So that's a little shallow, but it's cool to disagree.
	Do you think someone can be a born-again virgin?
	Is that a thing, or is that just...
	Yeah, I think they can.
	I think they can be.
	I mean, spiritually, naturally, no.
	Okay.
	Spiritually, you can.
	I mean, so.
	Well, as far as relationship status, moving on to you, what's your relationship status?
	I'm married.
	I've been married now for about four years.
	Before that, I never had a, I wasn't in a serious relationship.
	I have to say, I never was, but it was a long time ago.
	I have a 13-year-old son now.
	And so the serious relationship I had was 13 years ago with his mom.
	But this is the difference.
	You ask women, nothing against you, sweetheart.
	You ask women, and they say they'll tell you their major milestones.
	And then you find out they're stuffing.
	I've waited $99.
	That's true.
	Brian, allow me to make the introduction.
	Brian, this is B.E. Tatum.
	UAVA number 34 around 07 to 09.
	Like you, he has an awesome YouTube channel.
	And around the table, you have two ladies and a handful of 304s.
	Keep bringing the good guests like Tatum, Knowles, and Candace.
	Well, hey, Eric, thank you very much.
	Yeah, I'm going to try to keep bringing on some awesome guests.
	And I'm stoked that Brandon's joining us today.
	You were saying that in between periods.
	Yeah, so what I was saying is that that's why I don't ask women anyway because the propensity is that the big major relationships is what they talk about.
	And then there's the little guys in between.
	That's why I don't ask that.
	But as a man, I have not been single from the 13-year-old son all the way to my marriage.
	So I've had women that I've dated in between.
	I've had women that I wanted to wait till marriage and we did wait and it didn't work out and it was an easy break.
	My heart didn't get broken.
	Her heart didn't get broken.
	We broke up and it was like, hey, no, no, it's not too much of an investment.
	But then there's also women that I slept with and I regretted it.
	And I tell you what, every single time I said, I'm going to wait till we get married and I reneged on that, the relationship ended shortly after that.
	And it was a heartbreak.
	I've learned my lesson over time, and I think that's why I am to the point that I'm at, and I was mature enough to actually pursue marriage.
	And it's the greatest decision I've ever made.
	Got it, got it.
	Well, we finally got around to everybody's relationship status.
	So, a couple of you provided, were so kind to provide some pre-show notes to us.
	So, I have a couple notes that I'd like to bring up here.
	First off, would any of you date a police officer?
	Yes.
	Well, hold on, let me go around the table.
	Let's start.
	We'll start with you.
	We'll go around the table.
	Go ahead.
	Yes.
	I don't know.
	Probably.
	Well, probably, probably.
	It just depends.
	Listen, be totally honest.
	We do have an ex-police officer here, but I don't think he'll.
	I won't be offended if it's no, I think it's more on the side of like, oh, you're getting like, that's a risky job, and I won't like to be $99.
	Here in this panel talk, Christianity is like feminists talking zodiac signs.
	Brandon, the live chat is roasting you hard because you're acting like Steve Harvey.
	I would just save you.
	The chat is brutal.
	All right.
	It's totally fine.
	I could care less.
	The chat likes Brandon.
	What do you guys think?
	Okay.
	No, I think what they want me to do is they want me to come on here and they want me to bash all these women and talk crazy to them and tell them how they're sluts and all this stuff.
	And that's not how I feel in my heart.
	I don't feel that way.
	You know, I think everybody deserves love.
	Everybody deserves to be appreciated.
	And they may make mistakes and that may lead them down a negative path.
	But for me, I'm not here to call you out and go viral and all this other stuff.
	I think that I met you guys before the panel and I respect every single woman that's on this panel.
	And it's not up to me to look in your personal life and figure that out.
	You guys have been nothing but wonderful to me.
	I don't have to be a jerk and treat you guys like you're beneath me.
	And I don't think that's fair.
	But I know that's what they want to see.
	But that's not how I feel.
	Sure.
	So I'm more of this.
	Yeah, that is a risky job.
	And I wouldn't like, oh, you're going to work and I don't know, me waiting home.
	And what happened?
	What if something happens to you?
	What about you?
	No.
	Wouldn't date.
	Just to be clear, you wouldn't date a police officer, but you would date a thug?
	I wouldn't date a thug.
	Oh, so did you say he's a gangster?
	What's the difference between a thug and a gangster?
	A pretty boy with tattoos.
	Is that what it is?
	Wait.
	Listen, I won't.
	No, I won't date a cop.
	You can't date a cop or you won't date a cop.
	I won't.
	Before he answers, we'll go around the table fully.
	Yes.
	Would then?
	I would, but I think the risk is an interesting point.
	Okay.
	I would, absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Gotcha.
	So just coming back to you.
	Why?
	Because I feel that he'll get into my part.
	Like, he'll want to probably investigate certain family members or my friends.
	And I don't need him doing that.
	So, no, no, thanks.
	That's risky.
	Yeah.
	I don't want him investigating.
	I don't need that.
	What if he doesn't, though?
	How do I know?
	But how do you know?
	Like, why do you make that assumption?
	Okay, so because I do have a family member that is married to one, and he's, yeah, it's just, no, it's not for me.
	Are there any other reasons besides just the they might want to do like a background check or investigate you a little bit?
	Is there any other reasons why you might not want to date a police officer?
	I've heard through a friend who was with somebody that was a police officer and she said that those are the worst to date.
	I'm not saying you are.
	Oh, no, I don't know.
	But, you know, there's a lot of crooked ones out there.
	Why?
	Because there are dirty cops out there.
	There are because a lot of them, they're out on the field working, but they're with other women during that time.
	You've seen that.
	You've seen the video not too long ago about the guy getting caught, or the girl was going to his car at the park.
	He was a cop.
	Yep.
	But, like, is that a good like, okay, I'm sure you could find any career field where there's infidelity, like airplane, like engineer, like any job, you can find people that are going to cheat.
	So I don't know if like one example.
	They're not them.
	Okay, fine.
	Let's exclude software.
	Cops can get on those guys.
	Cops can get they can do a lot of things that they're not supposed to because they have that power.
	And I don't know, like, as because I would date one, but going into knowing like he can be, you know, cricket dirty.
	Can I just have you scoot your mic this way a little bit?
	Perfect.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Like, you know, what if it doesn't work out and then he wants to pull some shit on me?
	Hell no.
	Like what arrests?
	Like, what if he just, you know, like, no.
	Like, frame.
	I'm not doing that.
	Yeah.
	Can you like do like backred checks and stuff or like families and stuff?
	It's illegal.
	You'll go to jail for a pretty good amount of time if you do that.
	You cannot illegally investigate people or look up people's personal information.
	It's a felony crime as a police officer.
	Do police officers do it?
	I think some do risk their job.
	We had one person on our police department.
	It was a female.
	She was stalking an ex and she decided to look up the girlfriend's address and then she, but she got she got charged with a felony.
	You know, people can do it.
	It's rare that a cop would do that because you're risking a lot for a little Zentians.
	Yeah, Zentience, thank you.
	Good to see you back in the chat.
	Thank you.
	Forgiveness comes from the basis of contrition.
	What contrition is she exhibiting while hopping from chat Tyrone to Pookie?
	Pookie isn't the question, but forgiveness is earned.
	Otherwise, what's the point?
	She can be recreational use only.
	Well, I think that goes back to what he was saying before God forgives, he does, Zentience does.
	Yeah, it just depends, right?
	If a person is still doing the same thing that they've been doing, what's the point of you dealing with the person?
	I'm saying somebody who's genuinely looking for forgiveness and they've changed their lives and they want a new start and then you want to grant that to them, then that's fine.
	I think it's okay to forgive people.
	You don't have to hold it over somebody's head forever.
	And if I recall, I don't know if I addressed this previously.
	When it came to body count, you said that her past is her past, like you wouldn't care.
	But what if it was something really extreme, like 100?
	Yeah, I would care.
	Like what I'm saying is that I never really ask and I kind of base it on their character.
	Normally chicks with body counts that's that high, they hey, they win it.
	They win it.
	You can tell right away.
	You do a little bit of something here and there and they're ready to go.
	Normally women who are a little more apprehensive, it seemed like they value their sexuality a little more, so they're more likely to not have that amount of a body count.
	Not all, but I think that that's it's kind of the game that I think.
	But can I say something?
	Hold on one second to the amount.
	It would matter.
	It would matter to a certain degree, right?
	If somehow a girl was, you know, I don't know, just swiping through Tinder and smashing all these guys and I knew about it, it would be less likely that I would want to be in a relationship with a woman like that.
	Got it.
	I think it's important how a woman acts after you guys do stuff together because sometimes You mean sex?
	Yeah.
	And intimate things.
	When those happen, if a woman sometimes, not sometimes, when a woman hasn't been with a lot of people, she'll get really attached.
	And that'll make her, you know, like calling and putting in effort to that person.
	So what you were saying is sometimes like, oh, if the girl's like ready to go or like into the situation, sometimes that's just the mood she's in, you know, and it's about the person themselves.
	I think what shows if a person is like a lower body count is how they act after.
	That could be the case.
	Oh, I kind of see, like, if a woman has a low body count and she has sex with you, like you're saying that she might actually start developing more feelings.
	Like, a girl who hasn't had a lot of sexual partners, she will actually proper, like, start bonding with you once she's had sex with you.
	Whereas like you can tell, like, if you have sex with a girl and she just, she would be fine never talking to you again, that would be a pretty good indicator that she's like, this ain't the first rodeo.
	She's had a lot of sexual.
	Or that could be a mental illness immediately.
	That could be like love addiction or a really, a really attachment style that she has severe codependency issues.
	And that could be a huge red flag because she could be having sex with a guy each day and get attached to him immediately.
	Or he just wasn't good at it.
	Very lovely.
	She wasn't good at it.
	That's it.
	No, I think if you have a lower number, then you could get attached faster because you haven't had that many couples.
	That if you have a higher number, then you'll be like, oh.
	And that's why you should wait and not have sex with people that you're not fully committed to because you don't want to put a person in that position, a person with a low body count, and then you end up getting them attached to you.
	And you're like, I'm not really trying to be in a relationship.
	But you've now invoked that in that person.
	You know, young men, and people are going to hate me for saying this.
	I think young men need to take responsibility for these things as well.
	You know, young men are creating these hoes.
	I'm just being honest.
	Young men create these hoes too.
	It's not that they don't want it, but if dudes weren't willing to sleep with them, they wouldn't have a high body count.
	So I think that young men need to take responsibility to be the example by saying, I'm not going to sleep with this woman.
	I'm going to hold off on it, even if she wants to, because I want to be in a relationship or I don't want to be in a relationship.
	Let me make that leadership decision so I'm not hurting her feelings.
	Now she's attached and now we're breaking up or now I got a baby with her.
	I put it on the young men to be more proactive.
	But also women do have to take responsibility because they are also, there's now higher numbers where you see women like sleeping with men all the time because they're so love starved that they are creating, that they are so codependent that they will start fantasizing even if they only slept with this man for one time.
	They become so attached to him.
	And if he starts ignoring her, she will immediately start looking for another guy to sleep with because she needs that love and that love is not getting ready.
	But also people with lower body counts, they're really selective.
	No, like they won't go just the first night.
	No, I agree.
	First day.
	Let's do it.
	No, I expect that.
	That's why they have lower body counts.
	No, I said higher body counts.
	I'm saying the higher body counts, not the lower body counts.
	I agree with you.
	Lower body counts are more selective and that's why they're more mentally stable.
	Yeah, exactly.
	More mentally stable.
	What about someone who has a low body count and they've experienced, let's just say it's three and the third one, they experience crazy physical attraction, but somehow it just didn't work out because the spark wasn't there.
	then you wait what if you wait to you know because you became a christian or whatever you wait until marriage and then you get physical with your husband and it's like the sex is bad It's not going to happen.
	I think that that's relative to how attracted you are to the person and how much you love that person.
	Yeah.
	You know, a man can spruce it up.
	You know, if you love that person and you enjoy spending time with them, intimacy with that person, it can become good for you.
	Or y'all can just work on it.
	I mean, it ain't, how much stuff can you do?
	You could teach a man how to make it a better person.
	But it's possible that that can be a deal breaker.
	I think it could, if you're a mature person, I don't think it would be a deal breaker because life is more, or relationships are deeper than just sex.
	It's very important.
	You got to find ways to make it better.
	But I mean, if I, so you're saying in a scenario where a woman, she's had sex before, but now moving forward, she wants to wait until marriage before, she wants to wait till marriage to have sex, correct?
	She wants to have marriage.
	Well, I mean, if that is your standard, like if you're switching that to be your standard, then obviously you weren't able to screen like sexual compatibility.
	You weren't able to screen out some of these things.
	But like if you're a godly woman, you should realize that, okay, like Brandon was saying, you're now mature.
	Like there are things that are more important than sex.
	And obviously, like, really, like, sex is not this complicated procedure.
	Like, that's something that can be worked on.
	Granted, I will say that typically most women, especially women who have some degree of sexual experience, don't want to be teaching a man how to fuck them.
	Like, most women would find that unattractive if they have to like hand hold a guy.
	Here's how you please me.
	Most women want men to just get it.
	Especially if you were turnt before that.
	Yeah, but you have to understand.
	I think it's important too to realize that the dude that turned you, he didn't want born like that, right?
	It wasn't like he just came out the womb and he know how to put it down.
	He had a lot of experience to end up getting to that point potentially.
	And so when you marry a person that have a lot of other incredible values, you can say, okay, I'm willing to work in that area.
	You're never going to marry a person that got everything you want.
	It ain't happening.
	You can forget about it.
	You can marry a man that can throw it down in the bedroom, but there's other things that you may not like about this person.
	When you get into a relationship, you start having children, you're going to realize that sex is not as big of a deal as you think it is.
	It's going to be a lot more other things that are important in a long-lasting relationship.
	I'm not saying it's not important.
	You got to get it in.
	But at the same time, you'll realize that there's a lot of other things you enjoy with your partner other than just smashing.
	It's not just feeling good, though.
	Like, because I think that's what you're saying.
	It's not just about feeling good.
	Because I think.
	Please into the mic.
	It's not just about feeling good, right?
	Like, that's what you're saying.
	No, I'm not saying it's just about feeling good.
	I'm just saying that when I go home to my wife and the house is clean and I see my son and we're going on a walk together as a family, that feels really good to me.
	That enriches me as a man.
	I feel empowered.
	It makes me want to, you know, go out and conquer the world.
	I feel really great about that.
	If we didn't have sex that night, it's not going to change the world for me.
	You know, so I think that when you add the other dynamics of love and children, you realize that that won't make you leave somebody.
	I think that's where I'm at on it.
	I'm just going to add one real quick thing.
	And that feeling is because it's actually real.
	And a lot of people, we've been so desensitized from feeling these real small happy feelings that we don't really get to enjoy like these really pleasurable moments.
	To be honest, one person, this is the actual, and I hope he doesn't hear this one, but he actually is not experienced at all.
	And we were both going, and I'm not that experienced, but we go through it through our own pastor.
	We go through it through counseling, we're going through life together, and it doesn't matter to me because he is the most kindest, most intelligent person I know.
	And sex isn't everything to me.
	The way he treats me, the way he treats my family, the way he treats every aspect of my life, and the way we treat each other is the most important thing to me.
	It's everything.
	Okay, a couple notes here.
	So also, this is actually another reason why I think body count matters and why having a woman who has a low body count is very important.
	This is actually probably where a lot of Christian men might get into trouble, especially with a woman who's had numerous previous sexual partners.
	And like, if a girl, here's the thing, right?
	When a girl starts having more and more sexual partners, not only, and this is going even beyond like sexual skills, skills in the bedroom.
	As you start hooking up with more and more guys, eventually you're going to land on a guy who is just either really good in bed or is really hot, really attractive, or he's bringing, he's got high status or he's got a lot of money.
	And you're going to hold your future partners to that guy.
	So once a woman's been with like a real, like a top G, a top G like Brandon over here, she's done.
	Like done, like, oh, and now she's going to go settle for like an average dude.
	Because here's the difference between men and women.
	Women can very easily, and JBS had a comment here that I'm going to pull up in just a sec.
	Like women can get sexual access to very, very attractive men, high status, wealth, they could even be good in the bedroom too.
	But those men aren't necessarily going to commit to you because one of the differences between men and women is a guy of a certain, it could be physical attractiveness, it could be status, it could be socioeconomic, whatever it is.
	He'll sleep with a woman that is less attractive than him or of a different socioeconomic status.
	He'll never commit to her.
	So you could have like an average girl who goes hooks up with a millionaire or billionaire.
	He's not going to commit to you, but now you've introduced into your periphery a certain lifestyle.
	You've been with a certain tier of guy, and it's going to be very, very hard for you to now go and settle for a guy who's actually on your level.
	I think if you want to, you can get a guy like that.
	If you want to.
	If they want to.
	If a girl wants to stay with a guy that gave her everything, then they can.
	Not, well, here's the thing, right?
	Like.
	I agree with you.
	Yeah, like if she doesn't sleep with him, maybe.
	If she doesn't sleep with him?
	Yeah.
	I mean, like, to keep a man's attention, the best way is to not do that that quickly.
	Yeah, exactly.
	If you're on his level.
	If you're on his level, a guy's not, like, here's the thing, right?
	There's this concept called hypergamy.
	Like, women are trying to get the best man that they can get.
	And so what you have happening on dating apps, for example, and most people are meeting online, most people are meeting on dating apps.
	You have a very, very small percentage of men on these dating apps that are matching with all the women.
	They've done studies on this.
	They've released the data.
	Women are only swiping on the top five, top 10% of men on these dating apps.
	So what you're going to have happen is all the attention is going towards the top 10% of men on these dating apps.
	Typically, those are the most physically attractive men because the dating apps operate on a fairly superficial, shallow level.
	So it's really pushed, like it's really making physical attraction, looks the focus.
	Women are giving all their attention to these, the top 10, top 5% of the men.
	They have all the optionality.
	They're going to sleep with these women that they would otherwise never entertain for a long-term relationship because they welcome the easy access to sex.
	So here's the big difference.
	Men will sleep with women of a certain men will sleep with women of a certain physical attractiveness that they would never consider being in a relationship with.
	Because for men, like they'll sleep with a girl, but just based on her looks alone, will never be in a relationship with her.
	But they're like, okay, cool, easy sex, sweet.
	But what ends up happening is that girl then thinks, because I'm able to have sex with that guy, therefore I must also be on that level.
	That's the guy that I deserve for a long-term relationship.
	So let's, just to use numbers here, let's say a girl who's a six, she can get with a guy who's an eight or nine.
	Looks wise.
	He's never going to commit to her, but he will have sex with her.
	Maybe once.
	He might even keep her around as a friends with benefits.
	She'll never get commitment.
	So that's where women kind of get in this trap.
	And then what ends up happening, they get sexual attention.
	Say average women get sexual attention from men that are of a certain, that are more physically attractive than them.
	They now think, that's my level.
	That's my league.
	That's not your league.
	You can get sex from those men.
	That's not your league, though.
	In the same way that you can get attention from a guy who's got a certain, like Drake, it's got a certain level of status, right?
	Actually, let me not bring in, I'm not going to bring in status.
	I'll just keep it to looks.
	So what you have happening is these women.
	Sorry, I'm losing my train of thought here.
	Oh, so okay, what ends up happening is that the guys who are actually on their level, average women no longer want average men.
	And this is evidenced by the fact that women view like 80 to 90% of men as physically unattractive.
	So as women, if you start chasing after these men who will give you access to sex, they'll never give you a ring or a relationship.
	Then the men who are actually on your level, who will be loyal, who will give you commitment, who will give you a ring, you think you're settling for him.
	Even though that's your looks equivalent, that's your match.
	That's your league.
	That's on your level.
	You think they're below you.
	So that's, I think that's a big difference.
	I think that's a great point.
	And I feel like we need, like, if you can get in a 30-second clip, like, let's just pass it around so every girl can see that and read it because I think it's very important.
	I mean, I even think that some guys that are like a 10 will sleep with a six.
	If there's alcohol involved, I mean, if there's certain things.
	Oh, guys who are tens will absolutely sleep with a six.
	They will never commit to that.
	What I was saying, though, is I think...
	But one thing, and I'll let you finish.
	The reverse isn't true for women, though.
	Yeah.
	For a woman to sleep with a guy, typically the guy needs to be at least physically attractive enough to be in a relationship with.
	women will actually and women will actually not disagreeing and and And typically women will actually break a rule.
	So it's almost the reverse.
	So men will break their rule for when it comes to sex, casual sex, men will sleep down.
	When it comes to casual sex, women will typically sleep up.
	So like women will bend their rules.
	If the guy's really physically attractive, maybe their previous standard was, okay, I don't sleep on the first date or I'm waiting.
	But if a guy's physically attractive enough, a lot of women will break their rule.
	Which is dumb, but what I'm saying is if you're within, hold on, if you're within like one degree, right?
	One and a half.
	Yeah, sure.
	If you want a chance of maybe making him your man, the best thing you can do is not sleep with him.
	Because then he, because let's say you're a girl, like there are some girls, maybe they're a six, but they have like an amazing personality.
	Like that counts for something.
	And so then the guy, you give the guy a little bit of time to get to know you while he also is like intrigued and wanting to intrigue by you sexually.
	And so then the combo, and then maybe there's a better chance.
	Now, when it's a six and a 10, sure, I totally agree.
	But I think like for like the best way to get a man is not to sleep with a woman.
	I will say that I think a lot of men, and perhaps we can ask the chat, maybe one in the chat if you agree with this.
	I think it's certainly the case that a lot of men would be willing to forego on the physical looks front if the woman can bring them peace, is pleasant, is feminine, has a low body count, is not promiscuous.
	I do think men are probably a little negotiable on that front.
	I would say though, like a guy who has, but that's more so, a guy who has a lot of sexual optionality, I really don't think that, like, if you, if you're one or two points or three points looks wise below him, he has so much sexual optionality.
	I don't think he's, he'll find a girl that's willing to.
	I think my ex was cuter than me, personally.
	Which one?
	The Christian or the non-Christian?
	The non-Christian, but I, we waited a very long time.
	And so, and he said that, and he want, and like, we were official.
	And he said that it was because of that.
	He got to real, he got to, like, know me and see me.
	Okay.
	So that's just my, and some people might think we're equal.
	No, as a man, as a man, 100%, man.
	You know, when you're young, you don't care.
	You just, all the hot chicks you want to get with them.
	Especially if you weren't raised, right?
	You know, you get into this idea of this modern culture and you get confused and you want to sleep with women because of their looks.
	When you become a mature man, you want peace.
	That means more to you.
	Someone who's agreeable.
	Because you can have a hot chick and she's a pain in the rear.
	And I hate to say it, a lot of super hot women or super attractive women are annoying.
	Because, and I'm not saying everyone, but they get that way because they don't have to work on their personality because they get so much attention based on their looks.
	So they don't have to work on anything else.
	They could just, they could be sitting across the room from a guy.
	They don't have to work on nothing.
	Men are like dogs.
	You know, they want to come and get that one woman because she's incredibly beautiful, but she don't work on her character.
	Does she want to be a boss bae?
	Or she doing all this other stuff that's really unattractive to the man she want.
	She can get men, but the man that she want is not going to be in a relationship with her if she cannot be at peace and agreeable with the man.
	Yeah, I totally agree with that.
	It's all about the personality wherever.
	I always stated, honestly, like guys that are not that cute.
	And it's not that, oh, yeah, I'm the cutest of the relationship or anything, but it needs to be with the personality.
	Like they are awesome persons, like people or whatever.
	And a lot of girls think about like, like you were saying, like guys at 10 and they're an eight, they have sex, I feel, from like my friends and stuff that they say like, oh, I'm going to have sex with him and he's going to fall in love for the sex, you know?
	There's a lot of girls that think of that.
	And I'm like, well, I'm the whole opposite.
	I'm like, hell no, I'm not having, if I want something with him, I'm not having things until we're dating.
	Wait, but if you don't want something from, see, are you saying that there are some men that you hook up with quickly that you don't want anything from?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	Because, I mean, that's kind of like an interesting thing where women will have two different standards.
	There's maybe your spring break, partying, whatever, like in your past.
	Okay, I'll sleep with a guy within 30 minutes of meeting him.
	And then next week, oh, you meet a guy who, oh, he's got really great long-term potential.
	I'm going to make him wait three months.
	No, I've never had like a White Night Sand or anything.
	So I'm like, I always wait like.
	What's the longest?
	What's the shortest you've waited to have sex?
	Probably.
	And no judgment, by the way.
	Like a month or like a month?
	That's the shortest?
	A month and a half.
	Yeah.
	Is that a lot for you, girl?
	I mean, good.
	Get your bag.
	That's a good standard.
	That's a good standard because as a man, you're gonna get nowhere near that.
	Yeah, I'm not gonna give it like the second date or third date.
	It was just like, no.
	I ain't waiting that long shit.
	She's a classy lady.
	You wouldn't wait that long?
	They have to work for it, you know?
	Like, of my long-term relationships, I don't feel like there's this trope.
	Now, some guys will definitely view a woman who sleeps with them too quickly in the negative light.
	My personal view is, is that I don't need to wait a long time.
	I've had relationships with wonderful women and we hooked up relatively quickly, third date, second date.
	I personally don't think, and you know, long-term, two-year, I had a two-year relationship, five-year relationship.
	These were good relationships.
	And the quickness with which we had sex did not have negative impact on the relationship, in my view.
	Yeah, so you might, right?
	I could be wrong.
	I'm still.
	But what if that was her fifth buddy, you know?
	And now she's going to have six buddy.
	And the next person that she met, he's going to be like, oh no, that's a lot of like come by get ready.
	You know, that's going to be fucked up.
	You know, so you have to actually work it out.
	I mean, I think I maybe tend to move a little differently than some other guys.
	Like for me, if I have sex with a girl, I want to pursue something long-term with her, even if we hook up relatively early on.
	I've never been interested in just sleeping with a girl once.
	That has very little, that's very not of interest for me.
	So if I sleep with a girl, even if it's early on, I want there to be continuity.
	I want to continue seeing her.
	So maybe I move a little differently than some other people because I think maybe it's the case that some people might say, okay, well, hooked up with her quick, don't want to continue seeing her.
	Or there's just guys that they're just trying to just one girl after the other have sex one, have sex once and never see her again.
	Me personally, that doesn't make sense.
	Like I don't get that to have sex with a girl once and then never talk to her again unless something really fucking weird happened.
	But like if I decide I want to have sex with a girl, I want to keep seeing her.
	But is it like at the first date?
	Like is that too like quick?
	What's the longest like for you?
	What do you mean the longest?
	I would wait.
	The shortest.
	Oh, the shortest?
	Yeah, sorry.
	I mean, I've hooked up with a girl on the first night I met her.
	Yeah.
	And that doesn't change your like calculus.
	My thoughts of her.
	No, not necessarily.
	Not necessarily.
	But I think, but this is, this goes to the body count thing, right?
	I mean, you get a girl on the first date, no commitment.
	More than likely, first daters don't really work out.
	It didn't work out.
	And then there's one more body she have on her body count.
	And the women have to be accountable for that, right?
	I mean, you had to take two to tango.
	But I would encourage men to not do that, to get to know her better and don't waste that body on you or her.
	Get to know her because what happens when you have sex, you overlook all the red flags.
	I mean, the red flags become hot pink.
	They're not red anymore because now you've been sexually involved.
	And if it's good to you, now they could do anything.
	And you will look over it because of lust, not love.
	So the best way to do it is for young men to say, look, let me get to know her better.
	Let's come up with an idea.
	I would say men and women date with a purpose.
	Don't just date to have sex.
	Because I'm going to tell you something, because you made a point about if you run into the guy and it's really, really good, what do you do on the next one?
	You know, it's going to always probably pique your interest to get more and more and more.
	You're going to run into another dude that's better than the first guy.
	And then what do you do?
	You can't keep chasing that sexual fantasy or that sexual niche or whatever.
	You have to pursue relationships with a purpose.
	It's the best way to do it.
	I'm not trying to preach to y'all.
	I'm just saying do it with a purpose.
	And therefore, there's no body count women that you're leaving out in the road.
	And then you don't get into a situation where you feel obligated.
	Because as a man, sometimes you have sex with women and then now they get clingy.
	But then you feel bad because you're like, dang, I don't want, I'm really not looking for that, but I shouldn't have done that.
	She is kind of a good girl, but then I don't, and then you linger out that relationship when she could have been with somebody that really wanted to be with her.
	So I think that's why it's so important for people to wait.
	Yeah.
	What I would say to that, at least for me, and I do think maybe it could be very well the case that I'm a little bit of an outlier in the way I move.
	If, like, I already, if I sleep with a girl, like, I've already kind of made the determination that I am open to a long-term relationship.
	Like, I'm never going to just sleep with a girl without having the, look, it could very well be the case that we continue dating for three months and it doesn't work out, like is the case with any relationship.
	But I'm already going in with the intention of if I'm going to sleep with this girl, then I do want to pursue a long-term relationship.
	But why are these relationships not working out?
	Probably because I'm autistic.
	I bet you a million dollars that it was something at the beginning.
	No, no, but it was something at the beginning that showed you that this is probably not going to be long-term or maybe she really isn't what I want.
	And then you have sex and you overlook it.
	I blame it all on feminism.
	It's feminism's fault.
	If it wasn't for feminism, we'd be good.
	Honestly, though, I'm kind of like just a walking red flag.
	I've got a dating podcast.
	I'm a male with a podcast.
	Have you heard about this?
	Males with podcasts.
	We shouldn't be giving microphones and headsets to men.
	But, no, I don't know.
	Honestly, I'm just, well, you probably don't want to know my take on marriage.
	So that's the other thing.
	For you saying that, meaning that I think you're not favorable to marriage.
	Because of the risk factors.
	Yeah, like, and look, I don't have anything wrong from when it comes to marriage from a religious perspective.
	I'm not like fervently like anti-marriage in the sense that I'm openly like I try to think I'm a pretty reasonable person, but I'm not like antagonistic with it.
	I just, I've looked at the risk factors, like you said.
	And I just, me personally, I don't want to get married.
	That, I think, could be for some women kind of, I don't know.
	Now, I'm, but here's the thing.
	Like, I could have a long-term monogamous relationship with a woman.
	Life partner.
	No, but you always have an out.
	You always have an out.
	You don't have to make an ultimate commitment.
	Yeah, that's the thing.
	Without marriage, people get divorced all the time, though.
	So in marriage, you can just go too.
	You just financially find yourself in the problem.
	But you get married to stay.
	So you know what?
	That's not how you're getting married forever.
	Don't you think you're limiting it?
	You're limiting your pool because you're not.
	I mean, most women, most like the, it sounds like you want a self-respecting woman, like high value, all these things.
	Don't you think most of those women would want to be married?
	So you're limited to the moment.
	I want a woman who realizes.
	I want a woman who realizes that in this current social climate, in this political, well, not political, in this social climate, when it comes to the court system, we don't need to get, we don't need to get the state involved in our relationship.
	But the truth is that I love you.
	You love me.
	We don't need the state.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	The nature of femininity would want that protection.
	And I feel like you want a feminine girl.
	I do like feminine women, but I don't need, I'm protecting us from the state, babe.
	I believe that it is the state.
	I'll tell you this, as a married man, that one of the greatest things I ever did in my life was get married.
	I have been more productive.
	I've had more peace.
	I mean, it is the greatest decision a man can ever make.
	It's the biggest and greatest investment that you make in the rest of your life.
	Now, if you're a man with integrity and you're ready and you do your homework and you're willing to pursue even when it gets tough, you get married and you make a commitment for life.
	Me and my wife are committed for life.
	You know, us getting a divorce is not in the equation.
	And I think because both of us are both mature enough and willing to work through it, it's not perfect.
	You know, sometimes we argue, sometimes she get on my nerves.
	But at the end of the day, you don't quit and give up because she got on my nerves one day.
	We made a commitment before God.
	We made a commitment and it's on record.
	And it wouldn't behoove me to not put my best effort into it because I got a lot on the line.
	When you have skin in the game, you're more willing to do more in a relationship than you are if you don't have skin in the game and you could just walk away at any time.
	But that given how frequently there's divorce, it's not clear to me that marriage precludes people from because divorce exists.
	Well, you need to look at divorce in segmentation, right?
	What people are you talking about?
	Are you talking about people who come together that are equally yoked?
	Are you talking about people who are Christians?
	Are you talking about people who get married young?
	Are you talking about people who get married old?
	People who get married with children involved?
	There's so many different variations that may not even pertain to somebody like you.
	You may not be in the realm of the divorce.
	There's a lot of people that get divorced for a lot of reasons.
	That may not be your reason.
	I think I'm the guy, to be honest, I've thought about this, and this is kind of, I don't know if this is almost like morbidly sad or whatever.
	I feel like if I were to get married, I'm not going to lie.
	I'm kind of the dude that gets divorced.
	I'm the type of dude.
	I'm just look, and it's like brutal, it's brutal self-assessment and self-reflection.
	I just feel as if like not all of us can be Brandon Tatum.
	Like, because I'm kind of like the class clown guy.
	You're like, you're masculine.
	You're tall.
	I mean, how tall are you?
	6'2 ⁇ .
	6'2.
	Okay, I'm 6'1.
	Honestly, not going so far.
	My parents have been in a relationship for 45 years.
	They just got married this year with three kids and they have never like divorced.
	Well, not divorced because they can't, but they were together.
	So I agree.
	Like, you don't have to get married, but I don't know.
	If you marry someone.
	I just have this, like, this.
	What's that?
	Have you seen Minority Report with Tom Cruise?
	What was it called?
	The things that could see the future?
	Premonitions?
	Yeah.
	I have a premonition.
	If I were to get married, she's divorcing me.
	I don't know.
	I'm just divorcing.
	No, no, no.
	This is you.
	Oh, yeah, no, she divorces me.
	Oh, but that's how it is.
	Women divorce.
	The reason that you're doing this.
	They're not going to divorce.
	The reason that you feel this way is because of the things that you read and self-talk.
	Yeah.
	Because if you tell yourself this all the time, or you had negative experiences with women and you carried it on, you're going to believe that in every relationship.
	What you have to do is that you have to start telling yourself a different story.
	Stay positive.
	You have to start telling yourself, I'm going to be married, I'm going to stay married, and you have to start looking forward to the woman that you're going to marry.
	Before I got married to my wife, every day, and people probably think I'm crazy, but I don't care.
	I manifested it.
	And the reason I and how I manifested it, because when I would fly on an airplane by myself, I would envision me and my wife traveling together.
	I would already think about what me and my wife are going to do.
	You want our children.
	And if you want it and you see it, you believe it in your heart, you pursue it, then you will pursue it with an open mind and you'll pursue it with the idea that this is going to work for me.
	Women, like you say, all the things about yourself, there's some women that love all of that.
	Some women don't like a guy like me.
	They like a guy like you.
	They like a guy that's funny, a guy that's a self-starter.
	You know, all of the things that you have that are qualities.
	There's women out here that like that.
	If you were a nerdy guy with glasses on and you were geeky and you're in a tech, some woman out there love that guy.
	I feel like that guy's more likely to get divorced than a guy like you.
	No, that's not true.
	That's not true.
	I don't know.
	That's not true because love is love, man.
	Some people love people that they resonate with.
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	Men with integrity like yourself will not accept the lifestyle of girls.
	It is sad to me to see the way society is moving.
	Ladies, think better of yourselves.
	Yo, Derek, very good to see you back in the chat, man.
	Welcome back.
	Thank you so much for your message.
	Appreciate it.
	Also, I feel like, man, I really shouldn't have brought the conversation there of my own self-assessment of like, and perhaps I'm being a bit hyperbolic there.
	Like, is it plausible that I could marry a girl and not get divorced?
	Of course.
	I want to try to redirect my argumentation on this a little bit, though.
	When it comes to marriage, what from the societal point of view, because there's often a talk about, and I 100% agree with this, the nuclear family, very important.
	It's the best way to raise children.
	But let's say if we were comparing a married couple to a non-married couple that's monogamous, that stays together for life and has children.
	On a societal impact level, I don't see the difference.
	Like, what benefit from a societal aspect does there to me, there's no difference.
	And then on a relationship level, I don't really see the difference between I'm going to stay with this woman for the rest of my life, life partner, we're going to have kids.
	It's going to be monogamous.
	There's not going to be infidelity.
	I don't see the difference.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead.
	So, actually, the reason why I put such high value on marriage is because of what I saw growing up with my mother and father and how my father played.
	It was patriarchal.
	My mom stayed home.
	It was patriarchal-based.
	Yeah.
	No, no, no.
	It's patriarchy-based.
	Okay.
	Oh, based.
	Yeah, I got it.
	So, and now growing up, that's what I want from my particular family.
	And I think that's on a patriarchal structure.
	Yeah.
	Cool.
	You don't need a marriage for that.
	I think I do.
	No, okay, maybe you do, but I'm saying I failed to see what the difference between a marriage and a committed, monogamous life partner.
	Like, what is the difference?
	Aside from tradit, like observing a traditional thing.
	Because I want my children to see that we made a commitment through church.
	Because I want to make sure.
	Oh, so it's a religious component.
	It's a religious component.
	Remove religion from it.
	Because, again, when it comes to marriage, that's not just a religious thing.
	It's also the state. involvement.
	I agree.
	Because atheist people or a religious people or agnostic people can also get married.
	Yes, I know that.
	But I think that for me, God played a really central role in my upbringing and I want my kids to be the same.
	And I think that a house that has God in it has less discussion, has less argument, has less.
	So that's why it's important for me.
	But you cannot, you can even not be married and still be religious.
	Like you could, you could be a Christian and be teaching your children Christian values and even then not get married.
	Well, no, but I mean, it's specific.
	Yes, I understand marriage is like a, yes, I get that.
	Socially, I don't know.
	I mean, I think some people, there's some like people talk about taxes.
	I cannot give you an argument for why you should get married outside of the religious motivation.
	Okay.
	Then just so I mean, fair.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, I don't know that I'm not the voice of God.
	I think it's really romantic that in front of all of your, like, friends and family, you get up and claim each other, and then if you stick with it, it's like, yeah.
	Well, it's almost, yes, it's.
	Do you even dreamed of your wedding day since you were a little boy?
	No, I think that's something women do.
	But it's romantic and it's not romantic.
	It's biblical.
	There's something that's similar when you do that.
	It's really romantic.
	Hold on, let me just respond to that.
	Okay.
	Yes, it's really romantic that you can make this commitment in front of all your friends and family.
	And it's also very pathetic when that commitment means nothing when your wife goes and sees a divorce attorney and you end up getting divorced and all your friends are like, wow, I was there to witness the vows that you said.
	I was, hold on.
	I was there to see the words come out of your mouth.
	Till death do us part.
	Your words mean nothing.
	Good day, sir.
	But why would I care about what everyone, anyone else, me and my partner?
	I'm addressing her argument.
	Oh, hand.
	I'm addressing her argument.
	I'm not like that.
	Fine, you can have your own thing.
	But she's saying, well, you get in front of all your friends and family, and then it's this commitment till death do us part.
	Your words have to mean something.
	And frankly, nowadays they don't, whether you're religious or not.
	Maybe if you hate your last name.
	Wait, what?
	That's a reason, right?
	You hate your last name.
	But you can get away from that.
	You hear the one legal name change.
	I have something to respond to you, Brian.
	If I plan to get married, I'm going in, like he said, till death do us part.
	I don't, I'm going to take the word very seriously.
	You say that.
	Yes.
	You say that.
	I do.
	And I know that shit does happen and shit might happen, and I'm hoping that it doesn't.
	But that's why we said we have very deep conversations, a very strong conversations about having kids, about our healthcare.
	What if one of us dies and stuff like that?
	Power of attorney.
	Exactly.
	I know.
	Civil power of attorney.
	You can give it to your girlfriend.
	I know.
	I know.
	But what I'm saying is, is that I plan to go that seriously.
	And that's why we have talked about the moment.
	But you've not made a compelling argument to convince me.
	The thing is, Brian, you said that you're already going in with the narrative that someone's going to divorce you.
	That's why you don't take it as, that's why you.
	I think every guy should think that that's a risk.
	It's a gamble.
	Yeah, but it's a worthy investment.
	It's a worthy risk.
	You say, what is the benefit if it goes well?
	It's the greatest thing that you can ever do as a man, in my opinion, is to be married to one woman.
	It's incredibly important for a man to be stable, for a man to have to not focus on all of this other stuff.
	As a single man, it's very difficult.
	I remember when I was single, it was difficult, man.
	Is this woman eligible?
	This woman, I got to go on a date.
	I got to spend all this money because I'm paying for the dates.
	And so with my wife, it's just way different.
	I came out here.
	I'm going to the hotel.
	I'm going to eat breakfast and I'm going home to my wife.
	I don't have to play no games.
	We ain't got to text back and forth.
	We don't need to do nothing.
	I mean, when I say text back and forth, meaning that, does she still like me?
	Do we like each other?
	It has created such an incredible value in my life.
	It's worth the investment.
	And just like with a contract, nobody in here would just go off of words, right?
	You know, you have to sign a contract, even when we came here.
	There's a contract for certain things.
	Marriage is.
	Right.
	And you don't want to just go off of work.
	Oh, somebody's word.
	That's not enough.
	Somebody can say they love you, but are they willing to put skin in the game?
	I told my wife I love her and I want to be there for the rest of my life.
	Okay, that's good.
	But I proved it to her by changing her last name.
	We're in a document that we're committed to.
	And also I made a vow before God.
	I'm telling her, I'm not just saying this.
	I'm willing to go all the way with it because that's what it takes to make a sure commitment.
	And I think that when you do that, you never look back in the what-ifs.
	You will die doing what-ifs.
	What if I started the podcast and it didn't succeed?
	Right?
	There's a possibility the podcast could not succeed and you could be out here just in debt and crying yourself to sleep every night.
	But the benefit of it actually succeeding far outweighs that risk factor in the beginning.
	But so, I mean, you mentioned like all these things.
	You have your wife that you come home to and she's there.
	But I guess what I'm trying to bring it back to, like, I'm not advocating that men go and live these playboard lifestyles where they just run through women.
	They just sleep with women casually without any interest in pursuing something more serious or long-term.
	That's not what I want.
	What I'm saying is, is that I could perfectly see myself having the things that you have, monogamy, long-term, potentially children, right?
	I'm struggling to see when it comes to marriage because all those things that you kind of listed, I could have a monogamous, long-term, loving relationship with one woman my entire life without getting married.
	Show me an example of that.
	Somebody that you know that has done that successfully.
	You probably have one.
	I do.
	One.
	One, though.
	But let me ask you, how many do you have?
	There's a six in my family.
	Okay, six.
	You got one.
	Everybody else, how many you know that's just in a monogamous relationship, a committed relationship, and they've been together faithful to one another for a period of time, a long period of time.
	My brother.
	One, one, six.
	Once.
	How many?
	Zero.
	Zero.
	So I know a ton of people that's in successful, great marriages, and they're happy.
	And I also know people that have been divorced.
	Absolutely.
	But more than likely, the commitment, the investment into it is more important.
	And I think it means a lot more to two people.
	You're going to have a hard time getting a wife that's the one you want, that's okay with the up-in-the-air stuff.
	Because you could just leave her at the drop of a dime.
	She want to know that you're committed too.
	And I'm not saying every woman is that way, but when you sign that paper, you got a lot to lose, my man.
	It's less likely to be wise.
	That's exactly why I shouldn't do it, though.
	No, that's why you should do it.
	But you said you have a lot to lose.
	So you have stone in the game.
	There's two people skin in the game.
	But there's two people going into it.
	It's a contract.
	It's like a business.
	Now you're making it a business because you might want it to be like that.
	What if she says that she's like that too and then later?
	Are you saying that marriage is two people staying together under threat of a lawsuit from the other?
	No, no, no.
	I'm saying two people stand together out of love and commitment to one another, and they have all of these qualities and benefits, even through the government, of being married.
	And they have their name legally changed.
	Like my wife is legally, her last name is Tatum.
	She is a Tatum.
	It's not hypothetical.
	It's not like she put a hyphen on it.
	She is by law legally.
	Her driver's license, her passport says Tatum.
	She's officially a part of my family.
	Right.
	So there, but here's the thing.
	There are women who will go through all those steps.
	They'll change their last name.
	There's the marriage certificate, etc.
	And divorce still happens.
	So here's the thing.
	I feel like most people, when they get married, hold on.
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	Marriage is designed for traditional breadwinners and not working partners.
	But the reality is that both parties must be financially independent.
	So that defeats the purpose of marriage.
	Marriage is outdated.
	Abolish shit.
	It's a business now.
	I don't know.
	I mean, you're a businessman, right?
	You have a very successful YouTube channel.
	You're a content creator.
	And I'm sure, like, you know, I've been doing content creation for 10 years.
	When you're in the content creation space, you know, you do sponsorships.
	You're negotiating various contracts.
	Maybe you have people that work for you.
	So I'm sure you have to some degree.
	And maybe you have an attorney.
	But I feel like we start getting a little adept when it comes to, you know, you've reviewed contracts and stuff.
	And I mean, as a businessman, you never sign a contract with someone who's rewarded for breaking it.
	And I feel like in today's day and age, women are rewarded when they break the marriage contract.
	That's what we're told.
	It's not just about money.
	If my wife were to leave me, it's more than money.
	She'll get things.
	You're a giga chat.
	Brandon, you're a giga chat.
	But no, she'll get 50%.
	Right now, she has 100%.
	That's a big difference.
	Sure.
	She has 100% right now.
	She get anything she wants.
	Anything I have is hers.
	All of it.
	100%.
	She leaves.
	She only gets 50%.
	And then she loses the connection.
	She loses the protection.
	Who do you think keep her safe?
	Who do you think makes sure she got a roof over her head?
	Let's go right here.
	Who do you think is making sure that they got food?
	She ain't got to worry about nothing.
	And I know that it's not everybody, but ain't nobody going to leave that.
	That's a net negative for her to leave me.
	Just to get money, it's all about the money.
	But would you also acknowledge that in today's day and age, with the economy as it is, most couples, they're probably not in the same situation as you.
	You're obviously incredibly successful.
	I would say, though, isn't it the case for most people, they need to rely on two incomes, right?
	I think that most people decide to live that way.
	I don't think they have to.
	I think people want to have two cars and they want to have all that expensive stuff.
	Lifestyle creep.
	Yeah, I think that lifestyle, you can make your lifestyle conducive for the woman to stay at home and the man to go to work.
	Hey, brother, get out there and work two jobs.
	Maybe work a night shift.
	You know, bring home the money and the wife take care of the kids.
	Y'all don't have kids.
	It's okay for both of y'all to work if that's what you want.
	But people cannot make the excuse to say, we just can't do it because of the modern economy.
	You can make it happen if you live within your means.
	And I think if that's what you want, you could do it.
	Gotcha.
	We're going to move off of marriage here really quick and try to get into some other topics.
	I have a couple chats here that we're going to get through.
	Then we'll get to some of our other topics.
	We had JBS from about 40 minutes ago.
	Disagree with Brandon there.
	I'm basing that on the conversation earlier.
	The vast majority aren't even having sex to create hoes.
	Most women end up picking a very small percentage of men that create this narrative because they have all the leverage.
	What are you doing?
	This was before the marriage conversation.
	I think this is related to.
	It's a cop that.
	Oh, I'm reading.
	I was reading a different one.
	Most women end up picking a very small percentage of men.
	Where did it go?
	Because they have – oh, wait.
	This was related to this one.
	I'll pull it up one more time.
	Just creating hoes.
	So, like, I think you were, I think you were saying something about how, like, men have this responsibility because men are just sleeping with women.
	And you're not wrong, but I think what he's trying to say is it's actually a very small proportion of men that are responsible for women having high body counts.
	Because, like, you look at an average guy, he can't, most men don't have access to hookup culture, whereas almost any single woman has access to hookup culture.
	Like, take an average woman, if she was so inclined, she could have sex with seven new men a week.
	Whereas an average guy, like, he's probably struggling just to get a girlfriend.
	Right, but the seven new men should be honorable men and not participate in it.
	So, just think about this.
	I think a lot of people forget because they can only see women external from them.
	And when I say that, I mean, think about your sister.
	Think about your mother.
	Think about your daughter if you're a father.
	Do you want a man to treat your daughter like that?
	That's how we should think about it.
	You're like, okay, I like this girl, but I respect her enough.
	That's like I did my wife.
	Of course, my wife is beautiful.
	Yeah, in my mind, I'm like, yeah, I would love to.
	But I respected my wife enough.
	I said, I will not go there with this woman unless I'm willing to make a commitment because I respected her.
	I respected her father and all this other stuff.
	So I think men should think about that in the context of relationships and dating.
	Think about it.
	Would you want somebody just smashing your mama or kind of in a relationship, not in a relationship?
	I'm kind of thinking about it.
	I don't know if I'm really willing to be committed.
	You don't want somebody treating your mama like that.
	So, you know, a man should kind of think that way and not waste your time with these, with getting another body count.
	And I'm saying this as a man who I never cared about this when I was in college.
	Yeah.
	I wanted to run it up.
	I mean, if any beautiful woman would sleep with me when I was in college, I probably would have slept with her.
	So I'm not some holier than thou dude that ain't never been around.
	I've learned over time, and this is the conclusion that I've come to is that I will teach my son to be celibate.
	You do not want to waste your time.
	And I think that if more fathers were engaged with their sons and their daughters, we'll see a lot less of the hookup culture of regret.
	Now, some women want to sleep with a lot of men.
	Have fun.
	Some people want to do porn and all that stuff.
	If that's what you want to do, have fun.
	Some men don't care about marriage.
	They want to sleep with it.
	They want to get STDs or whatever else to come with it, baby mamas.
	Then don't worry about what I'm saying.
	I'm talking about the people that get hurt that really want love and that really want to be in a committed relationship.
	Sure.
	Got it.
	Let's get a couple chats here.
	We have Chico Papa.
	I don't speak Spanish.
	Can somebody read this for me?
	Mama, sit as a queerasal espor el pan.
	What is this?
	No, what is that in English?
	Whoa, mom.
	At what time do you go out for the bread?
	Okay.
	That's like basically saying, at what time do you go out for the bread so I can go out and see?
	I'll see you.
	Okay.
	We have another one here from Chico Papa, Papa Chico.
	Thank you for the 50.
	Can you read this one?
	What do you know?
	I can't clean things.
	Read it, Karen.
	To the real estate chula.
	Just make tamales y mira.
	Tetrego mi casa en make you mi nica nacaranda.
	I don't know what na caranda means, but I could kind of deduce what the rest of it is.
	That's rude.
	Is it sexual?
	What did it say?
	Well, basically, nacaranda is like someone who's like ditzing and like just talks like this.
	So shut up and make the tamales as well.
	Like basically, yeah, you're just letting you be my maid.
	Okay.
	All right, we have hern here.
	Yo, Brandon, I'm a fan and appreciate your assessment and perspective on things.
	And I agree with you.
	I used to work in Midtown Team 3, and other officers have nothing but good things to say about you.
	Also, 15 is low.
	Question mark.
	GTFO, woman and men are different.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Hearn.
	Do you have a response to Hearn or just?
	No, just shout out, brother.
	I mean, he worked on the police department, same Tucson.
	So me time as team three.
	Oh, gotcha.
	Shout out to the Tucson brother.
	We got Zorkoth 14.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it, Brian.
	You're making yourself look weak.
	I was not that long ago in a relationship with a woman who I would call a unicorn.
	She was as close to perfect as you could get, and I, me, myself, messed up, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.
	Okay, I think this is probably in relation to the uh this came in right after the some of the divorce stuff we were talking about.
	So, all right, there you have it.
	Weak Brian over here.
	Um, okay, so let's uh, we got some more topics to get into.
	Um, let's see.
	Uh, actually, here, we'll pull this one up.
	We had someone, M1 Garand, would any of the girls date a guy who legally owned a firearm?
	Uh, we'll start with you.
	Go ahead.
	Um, I dated a woman who had seven of them.
	Is that your ex?
	Yeah, she had seven guns?
	Yeah, cool.
	Um, so yes, so yes, okay, I would, yeah, no, no, wouldn't date a guy who legally owned a firearm?
	Legally, legally, oh, no, because one tried to use one on me.
	Oh, because one tried to use one on me, so no.
	So, you had a previous poor experience with did he legally own it?
	Was he legally on the firearm?
	He tried to use it on you, yeah, geez.
	Is he one of those gangsters you like?
	She goes, Hey, maybe they'll pull a gun on you every now and again.
	Oh, my God.
	You know, have you ever, some there's like a thing that I guess some women are into during sex, they want a gun to their head.
	Yeah, I heard when I was a police officer, when I was a police officer, it was an unfortunate situation where people were having sex and the gun was loaded, and the girl ended up shooting, killing the guy.
	You can't do it with a jail.
	I mean, but that's that maybe they maybe they want it to be real.
	Oh, because like I could get it, like you want the metal, but like you can't have it loaded.
	But it's like it's almost like people do Russian relay, they get rushed.
	Oh, that's true.
	So, like, it's really loaded.
	Can I really get killed?
	Did you respond to it?
	I didn't respond to it.
	No, I just heard of it when I was talking about it.
	You heard the call.
	I heard of it.
	It was very unfortunate because they thought she had killed her boyfriend, you know, in a murder situation.
	Well, I can see that.
	The boyfriend wanted the girl to hold as a king.
	Yeah, I think it was to the chest, but regardless, they thought she murdered him, but then they looked through text messages and investigation revealed that they were actually, they would do this, and this was a sex act.
	Wait, so it's like was it manslaughter?
	Did she get charged man?
	I can't remember what they charged her with.
	It probably would have been manslaughter if it was unintentional.
	The men wasn't police?
	No, no, he won a police officer.
	It was just a random two people doing that for their place.
	Because even if it's like consensual and he said, Hey, I want you to hold a loaded gun.
	Yeah, it's still negligent.
	Yeah, so there's probably some criminal liability.
	It is a criminal liability.
	Unless he said, I want you to pull the guns.
	When you actually pull the trigger, you actually pulled the trigger.
	So you actually were, your negligent behavior led to the death of somebody else.
	Yes.
	Okay, wow, that's interesting.
	How many people choke each other to death, too?
	Why haven't they?
	They just, and then they did.
	So, oh, what about you, legally?
	I don't know.
	Date a guy who owns a firearm?
	Yes, sure.
	I don't know now, but I guess, yes, still.
	If he knows how to use it, yeah.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Well, how do you know if you know how to use it?
	Shoot.
	If it's legal, if it's illegal, like no, what I'm saying is that do you run them through a test?
	Or do you just accept they know that what they're doing?
	So my, my, I don't know, my grandpa teaches people how to shoot from, so you know, he'd tell me.
	Just going back to you.
	Going back to you.
	So it sounds like you had a bad previous experience.
	He tried.
	Did he shoot at you?
	Did you have a gunshot wound?
	What's up?
	No.
	Okay.
	No.
	I didn't open the door.
	Did you call the police?
	Huh?
	Did you call the police?
	We don't snitch around here.
	Oh, see, there you go.
	Oh, okay.
	Gangsta to pull a gun and she won't even call on him.
	Okay.
	So your concern would be he might use the gun.
	Even if he owned the gun or whatever, they say that that didn't happen to me.
	I don't like guns.
	Okay, so you don't like guns?
	I don't agree with the whole thing.
	I don't believe in them.
	I just, I wouldn't.
	Wait a minute.
	You don't believe in them?
	What do you mean?
	You think nobody should have guns?
	I don't, yeah, I just don't feel.
	Why do you need to have a gun?
	Why do you need to kill somebody?
	Why do you need to hurt somebody with a gun?
	You don't, like, for what?
	I just don't agree with that.
	And just to open this up to the other women, besides you, everyone else said you would date a guy who owns a firearm.
	But when it comes to guns, does anyone here share her view on guns or is it?
	I was like that once.
	You changed, though?
	Yeah.
	Okay, because of the lesbian woman with the seven guns, is that?
	Did she change her mind?
	It changed her mind because we got our house broken into.
	But I feel.
	Prior to that, did she clip a bunch of crackheads trying to break into the house?
	She came with that lifestyle already.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Well, so just going back to you, you said that you just aren't about it.
	Well, question.
	Maybe I'll use her example.
	Let's say you're, you've lived with a boyfriend before?
	Let's say you're living with your boyfriend and three men, three grown men break into your house and you said you had a son or a daughter.
	I know they're an adult now, but let's say 10 years back, they're a kid.
	Let's say you're living with your boyfriend, and your son's living with you.
	Three grown men break into your house.
	You don't know what they want.
	Maybe they're there to burglarize.
	Who knows?
	Maybe your gangster boyfriend's got some beef.
	Who knows?
	He ain't really a gangster, like he says.
	So in that situation where it's just you, your son, and your boyfriend, three grown men break into the house, in that situation, would you prefer, would you want your boyfriend to have a firearm?
	No, I just don't agree with the guns.
	I don't agree.
	I'll probably help them look for whatever they're trying to look for.
	But so in that scenario, would you prefer your boyfriend to defend you if you had the choice?
	Would you prefer your boyfriend to defend you with his fists or a bat or something?
	Or would you prefer him?
	We're going to beat their ass and that's just that.
	They have that.
	But you don't have to do that.
	Oh, they have a gun.
	You don't know.
	You don't know what they have.
	What would you prefer?
	Would you like your man in that situation to have a firearm?
	No, I just don't agree with the whole thing.
	No, I'm not going to be able to do it.
	So you'd be willing.
	No, I just, I don't like guns.
	So you expect him.
	So, but just say three dudes come in there.
	I'm talking about real guns.
	There's other weapons.
	No, no, but you need a gun.
	But like if he said, sweetheart, I want a gun.
	And you would say, no, you don't need a gun.
	Get out there and fight.
	Is that how you would proceed?
	You don't need a gun to do it.
	That's what you would tell him.
	You don't need a gun with three dudes?
	No, there's other things you can use in the house.
	You don't need a gun.
	You got bats in there.
	You got knives.
	You got other shit you can use.
	You don't need a gun.
	What if they had a gun?
	Crossbow.
	It's too late now.
	They're in there.
	You can't be like, hey, y'all, hold on.
	Y'all got a gun?
	No.
	You can't do that.
	Then you know what?
	That's life.
	Maybe that's the way I gotta die.
	Then I gotta die.
	That's how I go.
	So you rather.
	So you'd rather somebody shoot you before you get to the gun.
	Your son's life is on the line.
	My son was a little bit more than a hundred.
	Let me ask Brandon a question on this.
	Brandon.
	She said that, well, let's assume that the three men, they don't have any weapons, right?
	Let's just assume.
	It's probably unlikely that that's the case.
	But let's say she wants him to throw fists with the three dudes.
	Now, let's say you're like black belt and jiu-jitsu.
	Let's say you're even a professional MMA fighter versus three guys.
	To me, that's still like.
	It's three-on-one.
	It's three on one.
	One of them dudes may be street two and they know how to fight.
	They've been squabbling in the street for a long time.
	I think it's irrational. to think that way.
	You got to put it, you got to compartmentalize.
	You may not like guns because of your experience, but I think it would be reasonable to say you need an adequate tool to defend your household in case three or four dudes want to come and tie y'all up and rape you or something.
	I mean, I didn't want to say that.
	Y'all want to tie you up and do something nefarious to you.
	You need that level of protection.
	And guns aren't as bad as some people think that they are.
	Once you have a gun and you shoot it, you'll realize the value of having a gun.
	And there's a lot of other reasons why you want a gun, the tyrannical government, all of that other stuff.
	But please don't do your main right.
	I'm not going to do that with the government.
	Don't ever make them.
	No, that's fine.
	That's fine.
	You can say it.
	I was just reinforcing.
	I was like the, I was the core, the, hold on, whatever.
	So in the situation, three dudes break into the house, don't want a gun?
	You have the option to have a gun, right?
	You wouldn't want a gun in that situation?
	I just, I don't agree with them.
	No, I'm not.
	Agree with them.
	I don't like it.
	You know why?
	Maybe I feel this way because I have had family members who died being shot.
	Maybe I feel that way about guns.
	I just don't, you know what I'm saying?
	But in that specific situation, would you not want a firearm?
	Like, how are you going to fight a gun?
	Don't think about it.
	There's three people in your house.
	What are you doing?
	Well, fuck it.
	We're all dying then, I guess.
	Go ahead, have the gun.
	We're all just going to have a shooting.
	You don't have to be able to just say we are going to die just to not have a gun present.
	I mean, even if the person is proficient and they're using it to protect you, your children, from bad guys who want to do harm.
	Okay, what if my guy did have a gun, right?
	And he has it, but there's three guys, right?
	Yeah.
	Bang, bang, bang.
	There we go.
	You're dead anyways.
	No, no, no.
	What if they pull out and they got you?
	He has a gun.
	He has a gun, but what if he ends up?
	What if someone hits him in the head?
	He's dead.
	He has the gun in his hand now.
	Now I'm dead.
	No, you pick up the gun and then he has to.
	How am I going to pick up the gun?
	They're pointing it at me.
	I ain't got time to grab it.
	This is what it is.
	You want to make the fight as advantageous for you as possible.
	So having a gun is advantageous for you.
	And if you have fears of guns, it would be whoove you to talk to somebody about it or take a gun, go get shooting lessons.
	And therefore you can overcome that fear because at some point you may find a man that has a gun in the house and that doesn't need to be a deal breaker for you, in my opinion.
	What about a guard dog thing?
	A guard dog.
	Honestly, I think that's the best.
	I've lived in the hood.
	A guard dog would get shot.
	No, but if you have a really scary Rottweiler.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait, are you saying, I don't know why this is crazy?
	Wait, but no, I'm not saying it would be wrong.
	Like a trained guard dog.
	But are you saying instead of, in lieu of having a firearm?
	Please don't.
	I mean, I'm saying like, I think like, I think that's a good alternative.
	I'm not saying alternative.
	I'm not saying alternative.
	What do you say?
	I'm just saying, if I was going to defend myself, I think the first, before a gun, I would want a dog because then people, they hear it and they're really like, I mean, and I'm not talking like a golden doodle.
	I'm talking like a 120-pound Rottweiler because people don't really want to hear it.
	You're going to get a Rottweiler, a 120-pound Rottweiler.
	I lived four years with the family.
	They had a 120-pound Rottweiler.
	His name was Samson.
	Shout out to Strongest Man.
	Oh, no, like even some of these big dogs.
	Yeah, no.
	Somebody watch, like, it's not a guarantee that they're gonna listen.
	All they have to do is throw peanut butter.
	No!
	That dog is gonna eat that peanut butter, and he's gonna have a hard time chewing it, and he can't bite.
	That's how they do this.
	Those dogs are well-trained, and they're very different.
	So they're like $30,000 dogs.
	Those police dogs are incredible.
	They're on a different level.
	Give you a little bit of, they might start barking.
	That could give you some awareness.
	But I don't think that should be like first line.
	That's not going to prevent, like, if you don't have a firearm, or that's not going to prevent something from happening.
	This is where, see, this is where if I had a husband, I got a husband.
	I'd be cool with having a gun because he's good.
	But I've gone to a shooting range and I'm very like reactive.
	So me with this gun, I was like, and it scared the hell out of it.
	And you know what I mean?
	I didn't even, so I'm just, I know that I didn't hit the target at all.
	It was bad.
	Okay, let me.
	I think I'd be a more reliability myself.
	Listen, real quick.
	There's this, it's called EMDR or there's trauma exposure therapy.
	Just I can give you guys the link and then have someone you love and trust.
	Like my brother-in-law, he's a sheriff for the LAPD.
	And he learned, he actually taught me how to disarm many times first.
	And then he took us to me and my sister to the shooting range until we got really comfortable enough.
	I personally don't own a gun because guns scare me too.
	But if I were to have a husband, I would feel way more safe or a boyfriend way more safe if he knew how to use a gun in the house.
	But I would look into it because honestly, guns are safe to someone you trust and can feel because honestly, there are a lot of crimes are going up and people that are mentally ill with mental illness are going up.
	We do have to move on here.
	Okay, so I'm finally going to get to some of the pre-show notes that you guys provided for us.
	We're going to start with Serena, right?
	You're currently dating your ex-girlfriend's ex-girlfriend's dad, LOL.
	Whoa.
	So tell us about that.
	I'm dating my ex-girlfriend's ex-girlfriend's dad.
	How old is he?
	He's old, okay?
	He's in his 40s.
	I'm not going to give too many specific details because they might be watching.
	Hey, but yeah, so I already was into I was already introduced to him before.
	Okay.
	And we were.
	Sorry.
	Derek Manx won donated $99.
	Thank you, Derek Man.
	I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
	It's a sad existence to just let it happen and judge people for protecting their families.
	Just put a sign outside.
	Gunfree Zone works for Chicago.
	If you know, you know.
	Okay, so it sounds like you don't really want to talk about that too much.
	No, yeah, it's cool.
	It's just that it's like a little plot twist.
	I found out after the fact that me and her broke up, we're still sharing my daughter, right?
	So my daughter goes over there sometimes and I find out that her ex-girlfriend was going to the house, which means that they were still in communication because for her to go to the house where I was living at soon enough, that means they were still in communication, which I caught her lots of times.
	So I don't know where her dad hits my DMs and is like, oh, how you, you know, liking it over there or whatever.
	And I tell him what happened and how his daughter's over there.
	He didn't know about that.
	And I end up knowing that my ex ended up sleeping with him.
	So now me and him are going to be.
	Word.
	Word.
	It's trauma.
	Good times.
	Do you expect it to go somewhere?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	It's still sneakily.
	I'll sleepily.
	No, it's everything.
	In your other note here, you said that men have to pay to sleep with women and women look to get money out of it.
	It's a business.
	So what do you mean there?
	Are you talking from personal experience?
	Yeah, I'm talking about.
	Have you had sugar daddies, that kind of stuff?
	I have.
	I used to be a sugar baby.
	I used to be a dancer.
	Oh, you used to dance.
	I used to date a porn star.
	You dated the, you used to be, or you dated a...
	I dated a porn star.
	Okay, good.
	We're friends.
	A girl or a boy?
	A boy.
	Okay.
	A man or a woman, I guess.
	Yeah.
	But it is, I feel like now, like when I'm hearing all of you guys talk about how you guys are talking about like the dating and the marriage and stuff, this is like strange to me because I'm coming from a place where I'm even my mom was like, well, you know what?
	Don't marry somebody for love.
	Marry somebody who's going to pay your bills.
	Marry someone who's going to buy you a house.
	You know, it's like a business now where I come from and the dating that goes around me.
	Like I'm not going to, oh, I don't want to date him because he's broke.
	I want to date his dad because his dad has money, owns businesses.
	I know that I'm going to be well off.
	Even if he sponsors goals, it's still like a business.
	So women now, it's like, I'm not going to sleep with, oh, actually, some women are like, I'm going to sleep with him for free because he's hot.
	But most of the time, the women around me are sleeping with men because it's convenient because they're going to get something out of it.
	And a lot of the time, men around me as well will say, well, they want to get their money up just to be able to have the girl they want.
	How do you think that dynamic is working out?
	It's not.
	But it seems like it's like a, it's, it's a circle that just keeps happening in my community.
	It's called trauma.
	Trauma is.
	That's what it is.
	It's trauma.
	And I feel like it's, it's, I'm not sure if it's because of where I'm from or my culture.
	Because I'm not, I'm Mexican, but I'm not liked in Mexico.
	Like if I go to Mexico, like, oh, you're not, you're not like us.
	But out here, me being looked at as a Mexican, it's like I don't fit in either.
	So it's kind of like it became a culture to be Chicano.
	And Chicano is a lot.
	Being Chicano comes with a lot of trauma.
	Yeah.
	I think the same thing.
	I grew up, everybody divorced, baby mamas and baby daddies and all this crazy stuff.
	And it is generational and cultural.
	You know, when I was growing up, I had a piece of paper that I wrote about my goals in five years when I was a senior in high school.
	And one of my goals was to have a child and then a year later, marry my baby mama is what I wrote on that piece of paper.
	And that's generational chaos that's passed down that I'm hoping that people that watch the show can overcome and say that is, they can identify it and say that is generational trauma.
	That's not love and you deserve better.
	A lot of times, my wife, when I talk about this all the time, and this is her saying this, is that a lot of women, because of the trauma that they've been through, they feel like they don't deserve it.
	They feel like because daddy didn't love me, maybe I don't deserve to be loved.
	And that's not true.
	And I really wish that through conversations like this, people can develop a mindset to go up and beyond that and realize that marriage is really a good thing.
	And loving for money is only going to lead to hurt.
	Well, that's the, well, when I, my best relationship was with a woman.
	My best relationship, all the men that I've had before, They weren't living up to this expectation of marrying this man, but this woman that I was in a four-year relationship with within nine months, she proposed to me.
	So I started seeing something like, okay, marriage probably does exist.
	Because as a child, I never saw, I never pictured being married.
	I never pictured my wedding dress or anything like that.
	Because again, because of what I grew up with.
	But then I see, I meet her.
	She's at the beach.
	She's on one knee.
	She's asking me to marry her.
	She comes from a family with, you know, they're also very religious.
	She comes from an island where people love each other and family is first.
	I married into something that was fake.
	So it makes me go.
	You married her?
	No, well, not married, but you know, I lived with her.
	We used to call each other, you and my wife, my wife.
	Oh, wife-wife.
	Is there somebody like if a lesbian couple gets married, is one of them wear a suit?
	Or do they both wear a suit?
	She would wear a suit.
	She'd be the one to wear.
	She would wear the suit, yeah.
	Okay.
	But I've seen where they both wear dresses.
	It just depends on if one of them is.
	There's different, yeah, to lesbianism, I would say.
	There's different stages.
	There's the femme, the stem, the stud, the butch, and the dike.
	What is the stem?
	Yeah, I heard the butch and the dike or whatever.
	What's the stem?
	I would be a femme, and then you're a feminine woman.
	And what's the stem, though?
	A stem is a mixture between a femme and a stud.
	What's a stud?
	A stud is like a one-and-dress, like a boy.
	Basically, she still has her hair, maybe shaves it off halfway, you know, but you're still very feminine, but very masculine.
	So a stem would be a girl who dresses like a boy but still wears makeup.
	Oh, but would she be the man in the relationship?
	Because you get what I'm saying?
	Because in a dynamic, like the other person was the man.
	She dressed like a boy.
	She got on one knee.
	She's like traditionally the male in the relationship with the stem be that.
	Wouldn't depend on the other.
	She can do that, but I mean, two femmes can do that too.
	Confusion.
	So there's no, there's really no.
	I got something here.
	I got moving to Diane.
	You said.
	Diane.
	Huh?
	Diana.
	Oh, sorry.
	Sorry.
	My bad.
	My bad.
	Two guys I dated tried to kill me.
	Yeah.
	Oh, my gosh.
	It sounds like you've had both gun-related or no.
	The other one had a knife at my neck.
	That one was different.
	Yeah.
	Good times.
	You know what I mean?
	Dangers.
	Like.
	Okay.
	So you said one had his side piece bust all the windows to my car and put bullet holes on my driver's side while I was in the house till this day.
	She could never face me, yet she called me to apologize and I will beat her ass the day I see her.
	Yeah.
	Throwing rounds.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	You've had some, you've had a colorful.
	That's just one story.
	Oh, that's just one.
	Okay.
	She's got dramatic.
	Number two, been single for going on seven years.
	Don't think I'll ever date again because people are scando and sleep around.
	Yep.
	But I mean, you said you've been single for seven years, but there's been some sneaky links, right?
	A little piece here, piece there, a little something, something.
	I mean, there was someone I was like talking to for like 20 minutes.
	By talking, by talking to me, like seeing him for like about six months.
	When you say talking to, do you mean having sex with?
	Sleeping with?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So it's not just like strictly talking.
	Like, you know what I mean.
	You know what I'm saying?
	You get a girl to say, I was just talking.
	I talked to only two dudes in the tweet.
	That's what they made.
	They were smashing.
	Okay, gotcha.
	So also, How I see it, if you're dating someone, don't get your feelings too deeply involved because you're not the only one.
	They are seeing it, enjoy it for what it is.
	Now, you're saying, like, that the men you were dating, they would be seeing multiple women, but were you seeing multiple men?
	No, if I'm talking to somebody, I'm going to be all about that terminal.
	Okay, that's responsible.
	Okay, got it, got it.
	We have Jessica here.
	Jessica, Jessica, yes, yes, is it Jessica or Jessica?
	Jessica, Jessica, okay.
	Yes, a guy was going to move here from England to start dating me, but I met my current boyfriend in the meantime and canceled the trip.
	How did that work?
	So, you're saying you were talking to a guy.
	So, I was, I used to live in England and I met him, and then we, well, he asked me to be his girlfriend before I came back.
	You came back to the U.S., yeah.
	Yeah, so then we continued dating, but then going out, everything, I met who my Korean boyfriend is, and I started liking him more.
	But he already had plans to move here in December.
	So, but this December, last December, five years ago.
	Yeah.
	Wait, so let me get a time frame here.
	So, okay.
	How long were you in the UK for?
	I was there for six months.
	Six months.
	And when did you meet?
	You were dating the guy for you met him pretty early on in the trip or no.
	Just like two months.
	Two months?
	Yeah.
	You guys like each other.
	You move, but you have to move back to the United States.
	How quickly after moving back to the United States did you meet your current boyfriend?
	Like four months.
	Four months after having moved back.
	Once I was here.
	And so you, in the meantime, for that four-month period, you were in a long-distance relationship with the guy in England.
	Yes.
	And it was exclusive?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So in that four-month period, he was making plans to eventually come visit you.
	So when was he scheduled to come visit you?
	So for December to spend like all the holidays with my family.
	Let's say, okay, so you met him.
	You were in England for, you knew him for two months.
	You were there for six months.
	You knew him for two months.
	You were in a long-distance relationship with him for four months.
	Yeah.
	When, at what, so, okay, four months.
	The end of the four months is when?
	October, November?
	November.
	Okay, so he was.
	He was going to move after four months.
	Well, I guess come to visit her.
	He was going to come to visit, yeah.
	So you, and then you met your now current boyfriend.
	And then, so he had already bought the plane tickets.
	Oh, my God.
	He, was he going to stay with you, a hotel?
	Oh, with me, but how soon before his flight did you call things off?
	Boarding.
	Boarding.
	Group one.
	I mean, completely off, like a month before half a month.
	A month before a flight.
	No.
	Okay.
	Oh, it was sooner?
	Snitch.
	You know, snitch.
	I think it was sooner.
	Like, like later, like a day.
	No, like a day.
	No, but I remember you were like.
	It's because she just something happened and then we were gonna work on it, but what happened?
	I liked my Korean boyfriend more, so I was like, no.
	So I'm so confused.
	Wow, that's a drink.
	The plane cost like $800, at least.
	No, he blocked me.
	He blocked me.
	Self-respecting man.
	The England's boyfriend?
	Okay.
	That's cute.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	That's why you shouldn't do long distance.
	No, yeah.
	But you told him that you like this other guy.
	I mean, I told him, obviously, yeah.
	Because I wasn't into my current boyfriend.
	He came up to me and I was like, not interested at all.
	And then this is funny because he then came to me and said, I like your friend.
	And I was like, what?
	He would come to me, start talking about this other girl.
	So then I started talking to him and then we got to know each other and I liked him.
	I don't know.
	It was very weird.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	She wanted him after that other friend.
	She's like, oh, you like my other friend?
	I got to get him now.
	Good times.
	I was young.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	So basically what you're saying is, is that with your current boyfriend, you can't do long distance, right?
	We did long distance.
	Oh, you did with your current boyfriend?
	Okay.
	That's a whole nother thing.
	Alynn, right?
	Eileen.
	Eileen.
	Sorry.
	I can't pronounce names tonight.
	You had a couple notes here.
	Why can't you have guy friends when dating?
	That was your question.
	why can't you have guy friends so you're saying like if you're dating a guy and he doesn't want you to hang out with guy friends is that kind of right yeah Because, I mean, I'll.
	Because they want to fuck you.
	Your male friends want to have sex with you.
	Let's keep it real.
	Out of all of your guy friends, have you slept with any one of them?
	No.
	So anybody that you've been with, are they still your friend?
	No.
	Now, if you gave them an opportunity, would they?
	No.
	Your guy friends?
	Are they gay?
	No.
	Are they single?
	I have to say something.
	Some yes or some yes.
	Just put a snitch on them.
	Tell the truth.
	Come on, sister.
	So the thing is that they stop being friends is because they always like her and want to date her.
	And she's like, we're friends.
	So.
	Listen, listen.
	Can I tell you what men are thinking?
	Me and my wife talk about this all the time.
	These men would, if you give them a time of date, they'll take advantage of it.
	Men know that.
	So when you're dating and you have these men lingering around, other men feel intimidated by that because they know you give one of them an opportunity and they coming in for the kill.
	That's all I'm saying.
	But once they start, like, they tell me, like, oh, I like you.
	I'm like, okay, bye, you know?
	Like, you're not my friend anymore.
	All of my best friends, guy friends that end up liking me, I'm like, okay, no, bye.
	You know, like.
	This is for the whole table here.
	Who here currently has a male friend?
	Male friend.
	Does a coworker count?
	Oh, yeah.
	Friends.
	No, male friends.
	That's my coworker.
	Who here has a male friend that's single currently?
	Here's what I want all of you to do.
	Take out your phone.
	I want you to text him and say, hey, shit, what's the go-to text?
	Do you want to cuddle?
	Or we could change it up.
	No.
	You need to say something like, hi.
	Listen, I've been thinking.
	I have feelings for you.
	Do you want to.
	She's going through.
	I was going to say, but since you brought it up, take out your phone right now.
	I want you to text one of your male friends.
	Is it in a bag or is it just on the table?
	On my bag.
	Here, we'll have someone grab your bag.
	Is this everybody text or?
	Shit, if you want to text multiple male friends and see if they're DTF.
	Go for it.
	Maybe Winkyface want to cuddle.
	I don't know.
	I am now sabotaging all your male friendships, by the way.
	I'm telling you, even if it wasn't that intrusive, you will know is if you text them and they respond like this.
	They will respond like this.
	If you just say, hey.
	Do you want us to text?
	How you doing?
	And they go like this.
	I don't want to do him like that.
	I want to cuddle.
	Mm-hmm.
	That?
	I'm telling you, I just, ain't no man want to be a friend with, want to be a friend with you.
	I agree.
	Men are friends with men.
	Women are friends with women.
	It's rare that you have a man that's a friend with a woman, especially attractive woman, and he just wants to be friends.
	Yeah, he's playing the game.
	You got some male friends?
	I do.
	He's hanging on.
	There's one that I know would respond positively to that.
	And there's one that I know that wouldn't.
	What do you mean positively?
	Either way, I think that's what I'm saying.
	You mean positively mean he will respond and say yes or no?
	One I know would because of how frequently he texts me and is like following us up.
	So I know.
	The other I think I would try to.
	Do you want to cuddle or hey, I want to cuddle?
	Because I just text, hey, I want to cuddle.
	He's going to be like, what?
	He's going to be.
	I would say wanna say wanna face it.
	Cuddle, question mark, winky face.
	That's how you say it.
	It's not the most perfect message, but I think it gets the point of current.
	Oh my gosh.
	Wow.
	I think sometimes to an other friend?
	But see, see, you have how many guy friends?
	You said?
	Like three.
	Like best friends, guy friends.
	How many did you message?
	Just one?
	Because you know the one that'll say yeah.
	Oh, no, but not right now.
	I don't have like in my whole life.
	It's been a while.
	Oh, I thought you mean currently.
	No, no.
	Because I'm like, you went to one, and why would you go to that one over the other ones?
	No, no.
	This is the only one right now.
	Like, good friend, yeah.
	See, but this is this is what you were saying.
	The good friend that you're not even confident this person's not going to respond and say, yeah, they want to cuddle.
	She knows her friend want to cuddle.
	She just said she had two friends.
	One want to cuddle.
	Anybody else want to play this game, by the way?
	No, I'm in a relationship.
	Yeah, she doesn't want to play with her relationship.
	What about you?
	I can't.
	Me neither.
	I'm not.
	You should message a coworker if you want to.
	They probably say yes too.
	This is the reason why men don't want women to have these friends lingering around because they're really not your friend.
	Some of them are just waiting in the wings.
	Some of them you ready to rebound with.
	Not you, but I'm saying women could be ready to rebound with.
	So that's why men feel some type of way because we know how we are.
	I don't have any women, female friends.
	What if they trust you?
	That's what I'm saying.
	Trust you like me.
	Your boyfriend, like you trust me.
	Why would he trust you?
	And you said that you got two friends and one of them.
	The one that I know would, I specifically, I'll only hang out with him like in groups.
	It's about respect.
	But why would you have him around if you don't have a family?
	Let's all be clear.
	I'm single, so you know, but in general, I had like, I had a neighbor and we would hang out all the time.
	Like we would like cook dinner and I would help him with his girl problems.
	And my boyfriend at the time had no problem with it.
	But what my boyfriend said.
	That's because men in today's day and age don't know that they're allowed to have preferences, standards, and specifically boundaries.
	And it's my view that if you're in a long-term committed monogamous relationship with somebody, frankly, I don't think that you should really have male friends.
	That's my view.
	Certainly for marriage.
	And it sounds like you're someone who wants to get married.
	I don't think it would be appropriate for you to be hanging out with a male friend alone.
	Sure.
	But I think you have to give a little leeway for that separating process.
	Like you start a relationship and then how quickly do you cut off contact with your male friends?
	It's hard to say.
	What's the reason that that person's your friend?
	Which one?
	Why are either one of those guys your friends?
	Well, like with the one I was dating, the one.
	Wait a minute.
	My neighbor?
	Wait a minute.
	You were dating that guy?
	Are you saying that?
	No, no, I had that situation.
	I had a friend.
	Okay, do you guys want to see the response?
	Because I was lonely.
	We'll come back to that.
	Wait, guys, just hide your phone screens.
	Hide your phone screen.
	Go ahead.
	This guy, mind you, this guy has been kind of like.
	Wait, can you move the microphone this way?
	Go ahead, go ahead.
	He was like my therapist because I used to tell him.
	What did he say?
	What did he say?
	Okay.
	So I said, hey, you want to cuddle?
	He said, fuck.
	I would, but I'm not even home.
	I'm out of town, ma.
	Got to take a range check.
	You back from your podcast.
	You're back from your podcast.
	How was it?
	So if he was old, he would do it.
	He'd want to cuddle.
	Yeah.
	How long have you had this male friend?
	For over a year.
	Okay.
	Have you heard back from this guy?
	Okay.
	And he's respectful, too.
	And he read back the first part.
	Shocked.
	Shocked.
	I don't know.
	You know, I've just brought out well.
	Can you read it back one more time?
	He said, I said, hey, want to cuddle?
	Wink.
	And he said, fuck.
	Riz.
	Laughing face.
	I would, I would, but I'm not even home.
	I'm out of town, ma.
	Got to take a range check.
	You back from your podcast.
	How was it?
	Also, also, something that just occurred to me, something that just occurred to me when it comes to boyfriends being uncomfortable with your male friends.
	Let's also introduce the friend zone into this because men typically are not friend zoning women in the same way that women are friend zoning men.
	So, like, a lot of women, you just have dudes in your pocket that would jump at the chance to be in a relationship with you.
	Those are the guys in your friend zone.
	Those are the guys in your orbit.
	But no, but you, okay.
	How often is it the case that the woman, like a guy will show an interest in the woman, and that woman, for whatever reason, maybe he's not that interesting, she's not attracted to him, friend zones him.
	Let's just be friends.
	Men don't really do that to women.
	Like, men aren't really friend zoning women.
	It happens.
	Yeah.
	But like, typically, it's pretty rare for men to like have a lot of women in the friend zone, but those women are attracted to him.
	Typically, it's the woman friend zoning the guy.
	Now, I think if you're a guy and you have any self-respect, you don't allow yourself to, it's just like, okay, goodbye, nice to know you.
	But not to say that you can't be amicable and have like a pleasant doesn't have to, okay, whatever.
	I'm getting away from the topic.
	Women have men in the friend zone.
	So your friends that you claim are your friends, it could very well be the case that at one point they communicated a romantic or sexual interest in you and you friend zoned them.
	So that's another reason why men are wary of male friends because it might have not started as a friend.
	He might have had a romantic or sexual interest in you from the get-go.
	So that's another reason.
	Bringing it, yeah, bringing it back to you.
	You were.
	I forgot where you're talking about.
	You had the two guys.
	You were explaining the one.
	One of them, I think, would respond positively.
	Although, A, it's like 11:15 his time.
	Sorry.
	And he wakes up early.
	So I don't know if you would like to.
	Okay, let's assume it was more romantic.
	But in the morning, in the morning, he's going to be like.
	Yeah, and I think he would be excited, but then I wouldn't.
	Do you want to text him right now?
	Let's see.
	Male friend?
	Let me do a more PG version.
	Wanna cuddle?
	Cuddle's pretty easy.
	Cuddle is sacred.
	Cuddle is sacred.
	Cuddling is safe.
	Wait, you don't believe in premarital cuddling?
	I wouldn't cuddle on the first date.
	Yeah.
	Shit, I would pre-marital cuddle all the time.
	I would pre-marital cuddle.
	Even if I was waiting for the current curve.
	No, even if cuts, first date, first date cuddle.
	You know what?
	You know what?
	It's too much.
	It'd make it really difficult.
	I like to like go we go in a public place You know and then the movie theater don't you I don't I don't do movie dates not because of that because I like to get to know the person and I feel like you can't do that if you're at a movie Yeah, go ahead and text him if anybody else wants to do text have you heard back yet?
	No do you want to text a different male friend?
	I you guys okay if you can think of anybody also this is the same reason when it comes to men not wanting to take seriously for a long-term relationship, women who have a lot of male friends or who aren't willing to like kind of phase out their male friends.
	I think it's the same reason that you should not date women who go to bars, nightclubs, and parties.
	And I think also for men.
	You're looking at me crazy.
	Like look because that male friend, I think men too, like when men are in a relationship with women, it's a red flag that may have a bunch of female friends.
	Grid1 Motorsports donated $100.
	Thanks, buddy.
	The delusion factor is super high if as a female you think you have a male friend that is not just waiting for that moment you give him the chance.
	That I have one who literally treats me like if I'm his little brother.
	Yeah, that is true.
	But have you tried?
	Has anything said that?
	If you tease it, you will see that.
	I just did.
	I sent it.
	This is going to be embarrassing for me, but I sent it.
	I'm going to see what he's going to say.
	I'm sorry.
	He'll probably be like, no, you're hella fat.
	Get out of here.
	That's the difference between a guy that you think is not attractive to you.
	But if it came down to it, he probably would do it.
	And I'm telling you, it's a red flag for women.
	Be cautious if a guy has a bunch of female friends because you are that female friend.
	That if he's waiting for you to say something, then maybe he'll be intrigued to do it.
	Right.
	That doesn't, then that doesn't, then you can.
	Then that doesn't go into like you can't have male friends.
	You can.
	Sure.
	Once you're in a relationship, because it's your friend, they're going to respect that.
	They're not going to be like with you 24-7.
	Now it's the boyfriend.
	Because you have a boyfriend.
	Yeah, but they wait.
	Are they going to encourage your relationship and stuff like that?
	No, they're going to be waiting for when you break up with that dude.
	Who are you going to text?
	Your friend again.
	And it's that they're kind of building a relationship with you.
	And I guarantee you, if you gave them a time of day, they will more than likely take it.
	If you tried to kiss one, if you tried to kiss one of these friends, they probably would do it.
	Okay, well, but it's on the girl view.
	We know it's a friend.
	Well, not this one.
	Another one did.
	He said, cholo.
	I'm going to say, want to hang when I get back, just us.
	Is that fine?
	What's that idea?
	Hey, want to hang when I get back, just us.
	Is that okay?
	Is that?
	No, no, no, no, that wasn't from the guy.
	That's what she's going to say.
	Oh, I thought you said he said that to you.
	I'm like, he's telling you he don't want to hang around people anymore.
	But have you hung out with him?
	No, not just him then.
	How about a winky face?
	Okay, fine.
	Yeah, maybe like a kissy one.
	That way, some guys.
	My men is probably watching the podcast, so he's not answering.
	Also, the guy has to be single, obviously.
	If you're going to ask this to a guy in a relationship, one of your male friends in a relationship, it's not going to happen.
	No, he is on Eastern time.
	He's on Eastern time.
	We're going to pop out of the sleet.
	I would send it to my house.
	Oh, really?
	Okay.
	I have a question also.
	Do you think guys are okay with dating older women?
	we'll come to that in just a sec let me just we we will come back to that No, no, no.
	You're not.
	Well, because I would send it to my current crush.
	Oh, you're coming.
	Waiting.
	But I don't want to run that.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's new.
	He's younger.
	Wait, your current crush?
	That was not in the notes.
	I'm sorry.
	Sorry.
	That was an ADD market.
	I don't think he talked.
	I'm not dating anyone.
	No, I just have a crush on a guy.
	But is he younger than you?
	Is that why?
	How young?
	He's like.
	Oh, my gosh.
	I'm going to expose myself.
	Just saying, it's fine.
	Just don't do it.
	He's 20.
	He's like early to mid-20s.
	Just say his age.
	What's his age?
	23.
	Nicolo Dione, $19.
	Okay.
	Are you sure it's not 22?
	Thank you, Michael.
	I'm sure.
	Hey, Siri, call mom.
	Hey, Siri.
	Hey, Nicolo.
	Call mom.
	Who's Siri?
	The phone?
	Oh.
	I think maybe who got a text?
	Is that you?
	I didn't.
	No.
	Okay, I got a text.
	He said, you know where I work, just stop by.
	You know where I work?
	Just stop by.
	Yeah.
	Who said that?
	This might have whooshed over his head.
	That's why.
	He might not.
	No, that's not a whoosh over the head.
	That's just a, that's like a.
	But why would he say stop by my work?
	Because that's where there's other people.
	That's a weird vibe.
	The last message he said.
	That's not clear.
	I think it wasn't direct enough.
	Wait, what?
	He sent me a heart.
	Like, he was like, best of luck tonight, heart, like a full heart.
	So, like, I think he would.
	He's probably watching.
	If you're watching, text us and I want to know what he said and text me.
	Oh, did you get another text back?
	Yeah.
	Message back.
	Uh-oh.
	He said, I'm just going to sleep right now.
	I got to wake up at 2.30 a.m. for work.
	What made you all of a sudden want to cuddle?
	I want to know.
	Okay, he's down.
	I'm pretty sure he's down.
	He's like, you've been friends on it all this time.
	We saw your mara.
	We saw your mara.
	Can you send this back?
	Send back.
	What are you doing Friday night?
	I feel like this is high school.
	Oh, man.
	You know what?
	That poor guy's going to do to him.
	Then he's going to get all like, ooh, hold on.
	I already know how he is.
	Because I know him.
	I know him.
	I know him.
	Girls don't have to be.
	Guys, bro.
	Come on.
	They will obviously take a chance with whoever.
	That's what I was saying.
	But that's why you can't have these friends lingering around because these guys could be interference.
	Because you're letting them know.
	Okay, but there's just like, you know, it's just like being a lesbian.
	I'm not going to be a lesbian to her or her or her.
	I'm going to be a lesbian to whoever I'm going to check.
	One thing for you really quick.
	Didn't you say that one of your male friends you use, not used him, but you he was the guy that you went to to talk about like relationship problems?
	No, he or maybe I'm he was my neighbor would talk.
	We would talk he would talk to me about his girl problems.
	Oh, he would talk to you about his girl problems.
	And I'd provide my sage wisdom.
	And would you ever talk to him about your boy problems?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, I would.
	oh yeah okay so then that's even worse because a guy who wants to sleep with you if you're hold on guys If you are asking a guy who wants to sleep with you his counsel on your current relationship, he's probably going to be like, yeah, you should end that shit because he wants a chance at you.
	But go ahead.
	You got a text coming from?
	Oh, the guy.
	I said, what are you doing Friday night?
	He said, Friday night, this Friday coming up, I have my kids.
	It's my weekend.
	You want to link up?
	Let me know.
	We'll make some time or whatever.
	You like or what?
	Vindicator.
	See, a lot of people think we're just making this stuff up.
	I'm telling you.
	I mean, don't ruin your relationship.
	They want to fuck these guys.
	They want to fuck you.
	The one that I said that we're literally just friends and he treats me like a little brother.
	The guy who just texted me.
	No.
	That's another one.
	I'm going to go.
	But is that the first guy who was a little bit more?
	That would be the second guy, but I've been waiting time for a response.
	Would be the third.
	We're two for two so far.
	Two for two or hardly.
	Have you heard back?
	Nothing.
	Have you heard back?
	Yeah, he's watching.
	Oh, okay.
	Wait, wait.
	Which I think is really sweet.
	No, no, after you get off the show, he'll tell you what he really thinks.
	Whoa, wait.
	What's his name?
	Aldrin.
	Aldrin?
	Aldrin.
	I didn't name it.
	Aldrin.
	Aldrin.
	Oh, it's a great name.
	Aldrin.
	Aldrin.
	Yo, yo, Aldrin.
	Aldrin.
	Hold on.
	Let me look him in his eyes.
	Aldrin.
	Please text her.
	Text her right now.
	Do you have feelings for Aldrin?
	Only as a friend.
	Really?
	Okay.
	Be honest, Aldrin.
	Honest Aldrin.
	Okay.
	Look, she's in a beautiful red dress.
	She's in a beautiful red dress.
	Would you do a little premarital cuddling with our friend over here?
	What?
	Why are you looking at me that way?
	What?
	Julia.
	Unless he's gay.
	Julia, sorry, I'm fucking terrible for things.
	Unless he's gay.
	He's not.
	No, no, he's not.
	Well, then he probably would.
	Is he single?
	Yeah.
	He probably would.
	What does he have to lose?
	Nothing.
	I don't know.
	So he probably would.
	Speaking of Aldrins, this is a little light question, then I'll bring it back to some of the heavier shit.
	She says she knows who my type is.
	She said what?
	He said she knows who my type is.
	You're not his type?
	Maybe not.
	What's his type?
	Aldrin, what's your type?
	Of course she doesn't know what your type is, Aldrin.
	Okay.
	Question for the ladies.
	Is there ever a guy's name where he could be fantastic, but his name is a deal breaker?
	Like Bartholomew or some shit.
	What?
	My little Bardy?
	Probably.
	I'll find a way to make his name better.
	You know, like, if you're getting intimate, I don't know if like a girl.
	No offense, Aldrin.
	I don't know if a girl could be like, oh, Aldrin.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	I'm so sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	Aldrin, I'm not trying to.
	I'm nicknaming.
	I'm not trying to dunk on you.
	Virgil.
	Virgil.
	But like, if I was with a girl like Ursula, I'm not like, oh, Ursula.
	Like, I'm not, I couldn't, I couldn't dirty talk.
	Unless Ursa got it like that.
	I don't know.
	I don't know if I could say like that Ursula's not even the worst.
	It could be like you say that you can get used to it.
	Of course you say what, look, if you, I'm a little vocal, you know, when it comes to that.
	I'm vocal.
	I'm vocal.
	So like, I'm not going to.
	Gertrude, huh?
	Like, I can't be like dirty talking with Gertrude.
	You know what I'm saying?
	You just created a nickname for it.
	You wouldn't call it Gertrude.
	Oh, Gertrude.
	Good babe.
	Gigi.
	Somebody else.
	I don't know.
	Anyways, okay.
	What did he say?
	Did you respond?
	What the fuck?
	Yeah.
	I'll text him.
	What's that song?
	Gasolina?
	Gasolina?
	Yeah.
	They reminded you of it.
	All right.
	He may have gotten mad about the name thing.
	No, wait, wait.
	I'm sorry.
	Short.
	Oh, he said short.
	Oh, well.
	Short.
	I'm 5'8 ⁇ , so.
	Okay, I'm with him on the short thing.
	Hey, this is the guy.
	You always talk about hype discrimination for women, so look at this.
	Here's a man.
	He'd still have sex with height discrimination.
	He'd still have sex with your brother.
	I think he's just.
	We're Christian, so we'd never admit it.
	Salty about you saying that he's just your friend.
	Well, yeah, I agree.
	Secret life of Aldrin.
	Secret life of Aldrin.
	Jesus, he's a friend.
	Oh, man.
	Maybe you're not his type.
	Okay.
	So let's get back to the serious pressing questions here.
	A. Lynn.
	Eileen, I'm sorry.
	Yeah, it's okay.
	Let us know.
	Keep us posted when you hear back from him, okay?
	Well, I think I already, just to wrap up on the friend thing, I think it's the same thing.
	Like, you should not date women who go to the bars, clubs, parties, etc.
	Oh, okay.
	We have a lot of people.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Dirty talk with a dude named Guy would be very weird.
	Just saying.
	Dirty talk with a dude named Guy.
	Yeah.
	Like his name.
	Guy.
	I'm so happy.
	I knew a guy named Guy in high school.
	That's what's up, Guy.
	I love you, Guy.
	Yeah.
	Sounds weird.
	My friend's name is Guy, and it's just weird to call him Guy.
	Guy.
	I'm trying to think of some weird guy names.
	Cornelius could be kind of weird.
	Oh, yeah, that's him.
	Cornelius.
	Herbert.
	Herbert.
	Can you think of him?
	My brother, we used to called him baby until he was like old enough to realize that his friends calling him baby sounded weird.
	And then they got rapper's name, baby.
	That's funny.
	Oh, yeah, that's true.
	Bromir.
	That's the easy fix, though, for bad names.
	You just call them baby.
	Or just the first letter of their name.
	Sure.
	Okay, that's fair.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	Going out with your boyfriend, should it be 50-50?
	Should man be the provider 100%?
	That was your question.
	Yeah.
	Is that, should we open that?
	We could open that up to the panel, I guess.
	So going out with your boyfriend, should it be 50-50 or should man be the provider 100%?
	And we'll go around the table.
	Go ahead.
	I think if he invites, he pays.
	If I invite, I pay.
	Provider, 100%.
	100%.
	Even because you said first date the guy should pay, but then afterwards you're a bit more open to.
	I mean, okay.
	Oh, you're walking the back?
	Okay.
	She's walking the back, folks.
	She's looking at the bank carol.
	Okay.
	This is how I feel.
	Like, if I really, really like him, then yeah, I got him.
	But what I don't like is if a guy takes me out, right?
	And then he does his next time you got me.
	Oh, yeah.
	That I don't like.
	No, I got a guy that I don't like.
	We literally went for Chipotle.
	Wait, say that again?
	How'd you say it?
	Chipotle.
	Chipotle?
	Oh, I'm not.
	I don't know.
	Chipotle.
	Okay.
	Chipotle.
	Oh, no, you put roll.
	Spice in it.
	Yeah, I know.
	So we went, and then while he was paying, he looked at me and he's like, you got the next one right?
	And I'm like, there's not going to be a next one.
	Yeah.
	Sorry.
	But yeah, so you said you want a provider 100%.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And then for you, it's if he's really hot, you'll be a sugar mama.
	No, I'm not being no sugar mama.
	But if it's like later on down the road and I do it on my own because I want to do it.
	Well, how far later on down the road?
	Later.
	How long should I feel like it if I was going to be able to do that?
	Yeah, but earlier you said first date, then it can be.
	Yeah, but you know, I shouldn't have said that.
	Okay.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	So how far?
	Three months into the relationship, then you'll start paying?
	Maybe.
	It depends.
	Oh, well, okay.
	Okay, wait.
	So how far in?
	I don't know, maybe three or four months.
	If he doesn't ask me, if he doesn't ask me, I will do it on my own, like when I feel like it.
	But okay, so for the first three or four months while you're getting to know a guy, you want him, all the dates that you go on, you want him to pay.
	I'm not saying, hey, that's wrong.
	He should.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, that's a bit different.
	He's asking me to go out.
	He should pay for it.
	But that's a bit different.
	That's a bit different than what you said before.
	But that, again, reinforces the conversation that we were having before about how you said, well, you have your shit together.
	You're a successful woman.
	You make good money.
	You want a guy for the first three to four months of the relationship to pay for everything.
	This is another, again, this is why men, frankly, don't give a fuck about the money that you get.
	It's not really like three or four months.
	Like, okay, it could be in a month or so, right?
	Like, let's like, realistically, like, let's just say that.
	Is that five, ten?
	Yeah, like five, maybe.
	You know, and then I could be like, So, why should men care about your success and money when even despite your success and money, you're not you want the guy to pay for everything?
	So, no, that's not what I'm saying.
	And I guess I always depends on the financial shifting the conversation a little bit, but but I'm just trying to articulate a lot of women are like, oh, my career, that's what I bring to the table, my money, my success.
	What guy's gonna want to be with the girl who's not doing anything with herself?
	She doesn't have nothing in the world.
	But it doesn't make you more attractive.
	Obviously, we don't want like a woman who's destitute, who's indigent, who's like really struggling financially, who has a ton of debt.
	Obviously, it's preferable that she not be like financially illiterate and just irresponsible with money.
	However, it doesn't make you more attractive in the same way that a woman might be attracted to a guy who has like some degree of wealth.
	Sure, okay.
	Would you feel would it make you feel less of a man if the girl made a lot more than you?
	Would that you have a problem with that?
	Would you have a problem if you're with somebody bar and this girl was like she had it up there, right?
	But you really liked her, okay?
	Sure, but would it make you feel less of a man if she's the one that had all the money?
	Me personally, no, like would you be a person?
	It wouldn't make me feel like less of a man, but I would be aware of okay, she's very successful.
	Typically, if you're very successful, you need to cultivate certain personality traits that are you're probably going to be much more assertive.
	You might be a bit more in your masculine.
	Listen, business is fucking cutthroat, so you're going to probably, as a woman, you're going to probably start leaning a bit more into your masculine, and it's not really going to be an issue with me, but it may very well be an issue with her.
	Me personally, look, some guys, 100%, some guys might be intimidated, they might have an issue with it.
	But me personally, if a girl made more money than me, I wouldn't care about the money component.
	I might care about what other underlying things are related to the fact that she makes that much money.
	And is she gonna feel like the same thing with height?
	I would say most men would be willing to date women that are taller than them.
	Like, I feel like most men, it's not men might have a preference for a woman, a slight preference for women who are short.
	I don't even know.
	I mean, look, some men like petite women, but I think if you ask most men, it's not a deal breaker if the girl is tall or taller than them.
	However, for most women, it's certainly a deal breaker if the guy is shorter than them.
	Like, that's a for most women, that's an issue.
	Yeah.
	So, in that same way, it's not so much that like the guys will think, oh, maybe they'll avoid a tall woman because they know that the tall women would have an issue dating dating them because they're shorter.
	I think that's where it comes from.
	It's not inherently that men have an issue with dating taller women or dating women who make more money than them.
	Me personally, it wouldn't bother me.
	If the girl makes more money than the guy, will you want her to pay for everything?
	The funny thing is, I feel like most women, even if they make more money than the dude, they still want the guy to pay for things.
	Right.
	So, like, I remember this was like 10 years ago or something before like I, you know, before I was successful, I was on the dating app.
	I matched with this woman who's an attorney, and she's probably litigation attorney who's probably making $200,000, $300,000 a year or something.
	And in her profile, she said, Well, you know, I'm successful, but I still want the guy to, I still want to be treated like a lady and for you to pay for the first day.
	I'm like, you make six figures.
	Like, I don't know.
	To me, it's, I mean, look, that's fine, but so that's the whole thing is like, why don't men care about your career?
	We don't reap a benefit, any financial benefit from your wealth or your career.
	Most women are not prepared to provide in the same way that men are prepared to provide.
	Can I say something about that?
	Sure.
	I think sometimes specific careers can translate to raising kids.
	And if you're good at certain jobs, you'd be good at that.
	So I think there's like a little bit of importance to that.
	Certain careers.
	Translate to like you mean like someone who's daycare.
	Yeah, like a teacher would make a good mom, right?
	Teachers, honestly, though the thing is, I actually disagree.
	I think they might make a good mom, but I think they make terrible wives because they are in a authority.
	I don't know if this is.
	I'm going to say, I dated this might be a little bit different.
	I dated a teacher.
	I dated a teacher before.
	She was absolutely amazing.
	She was organized.
	She was really good with children.
	And I dated her when my son was really young.
	So she was really good with him.
	She didn't have to be at work year-round.
	In the summertime, she's more flexible to be at home.
	But she was great.
	I don't think her being a teacher was a net negative.
	I think it was really great that she was a teacher.
	It added value.
	And I think you have to judge everybody on an individual level because certainly there could be anybody in any sort of career that could be a perfect partner.
	But if we're speaking in generalities, but I feel like we're getting a little bit away from the point here, and the point was more related to finances.
	Men don't necessarily care if a woman's successful, but I think it is important to pay attention to what the woman's doing, right?
	Like, because if her life is a mess, then she's just going to continue that.
	I will say I have dated women that are teachers, and I don't have a ton of experience, but I did date a woman who was a teacher, and she was very the way that she probably runs the classroom seeped into her personality a little bit.
	And as a teacher, you are an authority figure.
	You're kind of calling the shots.
	And so if I recall correctly, she was kind of like a caretaker.
	She was like talking to me in the same way that she would talk to a kid.
	I was like.
	That's boss.
	She was a bit bossy.
	And I was like, eh, no, okay.
	All right.
	Yeah, I can see it.
	Yeah, I can see it.
	I've heard consultants make great wives and mothers.
	Are you a consultant?
	I am.
	Okay.
	Look, so I don't know where I was going with it.
	50, 15.
	Good little 50.
	Oh, we're all paying 50.
	Oh, I'm the provider.
	Okay, we'll move on from that.
	Let's see.
	Men are used to not, wait, nowadays, men are used to not paying for every paying, not used, wait, men are used to not pay everything for the girl because us girls permitted that.
	That's what you said.
	Yeah.
	Sorry if it wasn't good wording.
	It's fine.
	I mean, if you want to, I think as a guy, if you want to min-max have the most success when it comes to dating, you should probably pay for first dates.
	But.
	Let me add this.
	If you're a guy and you cannot pay, you shouldn't be dating.
	One thing about men, and I tell young men that work with me, I tell them they should wait until they're financially stable before they ever start dating.
	If your mama's still paying your phone bill, you shouldn't be dating women at all.
	If you're still living with your mama, you shouldn't be dating women at all.
	You should be focused on building your career, building yourself as a man, building your credit.
	When you get yourself to the point where you're sustainable, you're in your calling, then I think that's when you should start dating women.
	Because what happens is young men want to date a woman while he's down here.
	And then he started to grow on the ladder and then he got to drag this woman up with him and now he's miserable.
	I think men should get themselves to a point where they're in their calling, they're financially stable and they can date women in the range that they want to instead of settling and then trying to upgrade later.
	I really do think it's invaluable to do that.
	A man should always pay.
	That's how I feel.
	And even if the woman got more money, my wife, I think she was making more money than me when we first met.
	Just a little bit, maybe $10,000 more a year, I think it's something of that nature.
	Sure.
	But my goal was to impress her.
	My goal was to show her that I'm a consistent man.
	I'm a reliable man.
	I'm financially stable.
	And so it wasn't a, what can you do for me?
	It was like, let me show you that this is what you get being with a man like me.
	And obviously I won that.
	Oh, go ahead, Ryan.
	I'll just address that really quick.
	Like, I would want to pay and be that guy for the right girl.
	My issue is that the current dating climate, the current dating landscape is, and both men and women move in very shady ways when it comes to dating is as a guy, okay, you got a couple things, right?
	You have women who are promiscuous or have a promiscuous past, who have high body counts, who did not hold themselves to a traditional standard currently or in their past.
	In that situation, I don't feel, I feel like almost taken advantage of or like I'm a sucker, I'm a mark for adhering to my traditional gender roles with a woman who is clearly not traditional or did not have a traditional past.
	Certainly, look, can somebody, can people have made mistakes in the past, can they redeem themselves?
	Sure.
	But certainly a woman who's currently not traditional, I have very, I have like this gut reaction, like I'm a sucker if I pay for this girl.
	And she's like dating other men.
	She's sleeping with other men.
	Like that's the way a lot of people move.
	How long have you been married?
	Four years.
	Okay.
	I mean, you were in the dating marketplace.
	I mean, you know how people move.
	Like people are dating and sleeping with multiple people at the same time.
	Maybe if you're like trying to narrow it down to, you know, Christian women, not so much.
	Although, you know, well, we had a girl on two panels ago.
	She said that she made it a goal to go on 50 dates with 50 men in 50 days.
	I'll come back to them just $100.
	Men should date when they have reliable finances.
	But paying for dinner on dates or even drinks with friends is a gesture I believe in.
	There's just a lot of women who overestimate themselves and misunderstand what the gesture means.
	Yo, Mr. Meepal, very good to see you in the chat, man.
	Thank you very much.
	Appreciate it.
	So I just don't want to feel like a sucker, basically, where, oh, and the girl who was on the panel two shows ago, she said she went on a date with a new guy every single day.
	And if I was date number 15, you just went on 14 dates.
	She said she did two dates in one day.
	Look, we're not, we just met.
	We're not exclusive, obviously.
	But I would feel like, man, like she's not really respecting my time.
	She's not really respecting that I'm making this traditional gender role gesture of paying for the first date.
	By after our date, she's going to go on another date and she's got four dates lined up.
	And then that's how, that's like, granted, she said this on the show.
	I don't think, I don't think most women are going on a new date every single day of the week, but I've definitely had experiences.
	I've gone on dates with a girl and I'll ask them, so how's the dating life?
	And they're like, yeah, I just went on like four dates this past week.
	And I'm like, well, okay, see, like it to me, and the other thing, the big thing, the worst thing, the worst thing is if I go on a date with a girl and I pay for her food and then she's sleeping with another guy that I, you know, I might not be aware of because we just met, right?
	She takes the food that I paid for.
	She gets a to-go bag, brings it over to the guy's house who she's sleeping with, who, by the way, never had to pay, who never took her out.
	He's just a hot dude.
	And then she gives him the food that I paid for as my romantic, traditional gender role.
	Well, let me just say this.
	Let me, no, no, no.
	No, that was a hypothetical.
	This is too specific.
	Is that a hypothetical?
	I don't think it's happened to me, but it's for sure.
	Oh, my God.
	No, for sure.
	This is like, okay.
	But you had a thought.
	It's not even a thought.
	There are for sure women who go out with dates on men to get a free experience, to get a free meal, and then while simultaneously having a guy that they're fucking and they will meet up with the guy after they go on a date.
	This happens all the fucking time.
	It does.
	Girls have dudes in their phone, Uber, dinner.
	Like girls will go on a date with a guy and then after, they'll give you the ass out hug and then they'll go over to the guy's house who they're fucking who never paid for a date, who never took them out.
	He's just the hot, like the hot dude.
	And to me, that just, I don't know.
	Yeah, it happens.
	But what I would tell you if you were, you know, if I was giving some advice.
	You're my father.
	If I was your, if I was your brother, right?
	I got too many kids.
	I'm not telling you, shooting my shot here.
	Okay.
	No, but what I would say is that it's, you know, as a man, you have to work through things before you're ready to date.
	Because it seems like you have a lot of things that have happened, even the things you've read.
	Obviously, you do a show.
	You see a lot of women that are just complete bums.
	And that really affects the way you perceive it.
	And I'd say you're going to keep running into real negative situations if that's what your mindset is.
	And I would say deal with those things within, and then you'll be ready to actually date.
	When you're at the point where you don't care, you're not thinking about, well, what's she going to do with this money?
	You're at the point where you're meeting quality women that are primed and ready to really be in a relationship, mature women, and you take them on a dates and you have mature conversations.
	I think that's where you, you know, you got to meet, like people do apps and stuff, and it's okay to do apps.
	People do it.
	I think you will meet the person that's meant for you doing the things that you enjoy.
	Wait, I have a question.
	Where do you live currently?
	Are you in Arizona?
	You're in Arizona.
	Okay.
	California is a lost cause.
	So it has to be.
	It's a failed society.
	It's a failed society.
	What are you saying?
	I live in California.
	Just, look, I would say the dating meta.
	But where are you dating these women?
	What are the ages and where are you dating these women?
	Here in Santa Barbara.
	Here in Santa Barbara.
	Right, so that's probably the problem.
	You probably want to because there's a bunch of young girls still trying to figure theirself out.
	I drove, I was driving here.
	Oh, yeah.
	His girls booty out.
	I cannot believe how many women could have their whole booty out.
	I mean, we should have had no clothes on.
	So these women are really trying to find out.
	I'm going to take one party school like, so you in the wrong area.
	Yo, Tinder searches very, you swiping on these women.
	They all crazy.
	The girl I was telling you who I met her on a dating app.
	I met her on Hinge.
	This was, I don't know, a couple years ago.
	I think Hinge is weird.
	I mean, I think these dating websites are weird.
	But so this girl, she was 29.
	She had a high-paying job at a hospital, six figures.
	She was average looking, unremarkable in every regard.
	She told me she had just downloaded the app.
	I was the fourth guy she went on a date with within a week of having downloaded the app.
	She'd already been on three dates.
	She told me she had two dates scheduled for the weekend.
	And it's like, this was like, you look at her, okay, she works in the hospital.
	She's got a respectable career.
	She seemed otherwise well put together.
	This is just like how people, even professional people, are moving.
	It's not just college kids that are moving in this way.
	Even adult women around like mid-20s, late 20s, early 30s, they're seeing multiple people at the same time.
	And I guess my qualm when it comes to paying for the first date is, I don't want to pay for on the first date for a girl who's fucking another guy.
	I think that's why faith is, that's why I think faith is really important.
	Yeah.
	Because it gives you a center.
	And if you have faith in God and you're living the life that you believe is right according to what the Bible has said, then you can go out and date people that are kind of similar to you.
	When you're just floating in the wind and you're dating people, that girl probably have no values that align with you other than the fact that she has a good paying job and she seems like she could add a little bit of value.
	But y'all don't share the same values.
	And then you got to ask yourself the question, what are your values?
	Are your values that you do care about a person that's going to save themselves?
	Your value that you do care about a woman who has morals, a woman who views herself and is stable and not dealing with a bunch of trauma.
	If that's your standard, then when you are talking to these women, you can weed them out.
	Or you're going to continue to run into these feminists that want to be wear the pants in the family and all that stuff.
	Really quick points, and I need to move things on.
	Yeah, I had a question about being this finances 100% provider.
	Did your wife actually herself, do you like some sacrifice?
	Like she herself stopped talking to her male friends.
	Did she herself like delete her Instagram or something like that?
	Hold on to something like that.
	Yeah, that was the biggest thing.
	Like stuff that some men don't like sometimes in my life.
	Right.
	My wife is mature enough and then she was 36 when we met.
	She's mature enough and she do understand that like it will be a conflict.
	She can identify that these men that are her friends are not her friends, not conducive for a real relationship because she had been through terrible relationships and she wanted something different.
	And so she made those, I didn't have to ask her to do that.
	You know, my wife ain't putting a booty all on social media, so she don't have to scrub her Instagram.
	My wife made an incredible amount of sacrifice.
	She left her job.
	My wife had a really good paying job, making about $80,000 a year.
	And when we got together, she left her job in tears.
	But she was willing to make that sacrifice.
	And now she's, you know, now she doesn't regret that.
	That was actually an important really that if you asked her if she did it on her own, and that's a really strong conviction.
	100%.
	But she was ready, though.
	She was a mature woman and she was ready.
	She wasn't in her 20s still trying to figure her life out.
	If you talk to my wife, she'll say, when I was in my 20s, I was crazy.
	She had to go to therapy and different things like that.
	And she's to the point where she was ready.
	And I was ready.
	And therefore, I don't have to ask this childish stuff.
	Like, how many people you slept with?
	Or can you delete your social media?
	Do you need to stop talking to these dudes?
	She already understands the game.
	And so it worked really well for us.
	Thank you.
	We have a couple chats here.
	We need to get to just another guy.
	Hey, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it, Brian.
	You often talk about your objection to cosmetic surgery.
	Hashtag BLM.
	Does that include bariatric surgery?
	For example, someone who is morbidly obese and gets a gastric sleeve surgery to help them lose weight.
	Would love to hear from the panel as well.
	Do I object to bariatric surgery?
	I mean, I'm not, I don't know enough about that to really have, I mean, my knee-jerk response would be you should try to lose weight legit instead of resorting to a surgery, which is kind of like a, what's it called?
	A, no, there's another word, like a shortcut, thank you.
	But perhaps for some people, like it might be necessary.
	I don't know if there's a medical indication for having it done.
	Maybe they, I don't know.
	Okay, so would love to hear from the panel.
	Yes, I'm against cosmetic surgery.
	When you say cosmetic surgery, you mean breast implants?
	Lip filler, breast implants, BBL, lipo.
	No Botox.
	No Botox.
	Which is not cosmetic, I don't think.
	That's not a surgery.
	Well, it's not a surgery.
	It's cosmetic, but it's not a surgery.
	Well, I'm against that too.
	Botox?
	I'm against.
	Yeah, I think I'd very much like to see women feeling happy with just how they are without the need for intervention.
	What about makeup?
	Against makeup, actually.
	I'm against makeup.
	Are you impartial?
	Are you against eyeliner?
	Are you impartial?
	Do you think every one of us girls are wearing makeup?
	Okay, let's panel.
	To address your thing, Brandon, I am an anti-makeup terrorist.
	I mean, because what is too much makeup?
	Well, okay, hold on, though.
	There's a difference.
	You've been invited to a video live recording.
	So for an event like this, it makes sense that women are going to doll up a little bit.
	So now, if you guys were to wear the degree of makeup you're wearing to meet me for a first date, there are women at the state.
	Honestly, anything more than maybe a little eyeliner to me is like a letdown, not going to lie.
	But I'll tell a girl, I'll be like, yo, you don't have to wear makeup.
	What's your first date?
	What do you mean, my type?
	What happened with you and Emily?
	Emily, who?
	She was on the podcast last week.
	You asked her on a date.
	Oh, we just, oh my God.
	What are you talking about?
	I'm glad I watched it.
	Did you guys actually go on a date?
	You're not supposed to watch the full podcast.
	I'm a fan.
	Don't worry about it.
	Don't worry about it.
	But what's my type?
	Yes.
	Okay, here.
	Let me pull up my list because I've had to write it down because it's getting okay.
	But no, okay, here.
	Looks, let's talk looks.
	I have a slight preference for petite, fun size, short women.
	You and Aldrin.
	Aldrin's based.
	It's definitely funny telling women who are like 5'2 that they're too tall for me.
	Like a woman, that's too tall.
	Oh, because I'm like short, short.
	Like 4'11 is where it's like.
	It's like borderline.
	Mid-dwarf.
	Borderline dwarf little person.
	No, no, no.
	You serious?
	Are you playing?
	I'm 100% serious.
	I like short women.
	That's interesting.
	That's really short.
	But here's the thing.
	Like, it's not a deal breaker for me.
	Like, I have no, I'll date a woman who's taller than me.
	I have a slight preference for short women.
	Never going to be a deal breaker.
	Whereas I think for most women, height will be a deal breaker for 95% of women.
	Especially for tall women.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, when I say height is a deal breaker for 95% of women, I'm saying that 95% of women would not date a guy who's shorter than them, but I'd say a much higher proportion of men would date a woman who's taller than them.
	I would love to know how they – would you guys not date a guy based on height?
	Is that a deal breaker for you?
	Yes.
	I'm saying what height on the table.
	What height.
	Minimum height, bare minimum height for you.
	How tall are you?
	And how tall are you?
	I'm 5'7 without heels.
	Okay.
	And bare minimum height for a guy?
	I want to say 5'10 because even 5'9, I feel like.
	But that's a deal breaker.
	If the guy had a bunch of great qualities, but he was an inch shorter, you would say no.
	An inch shorter than 5'7?
	Yeah.
	Geez, that's a really hard one.
	It's a deal breaker.
	I'm 5'5, and I've dated guys like 5'6, 5'7.
	I don't think come on, 5' shorter.
	But whenever I put my high heels, because I wear it, they're shorter, and I don't care.
	Okay, what about you?
	I want them to be like 5'9.
	How tall are you?
	5'2.
	Okay.
	I'm 5'9, so they have to be 5'9.
	At least 5'9.
	Got it.
	My longest relationship was with someone that was like three or four inches shorter than me.
	Three or four inches.
	So you don't care.
	I mean, it's not a deal breaker.
	It's not a deal breaker.
	Is it a two-year relationship?
	Three.
	Didn't I say three?
	Was this the guy who met your parents?
	No, no, no.
	He was 5'10.
	Yeah, 5'10.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'm 5'7 ⁇ , but ultimately 5'6.
	Yeah.
	I'm 6'1, so 6 feet.
	6'5?
	Wow.
	I mean, eye contact.
	I think that's, I like eye contact.
	You are tall, so but yeah, height for me, whatever, doesn't matter.
	Okay, strong preference, no plastic surgery, so we're talking no fake tits, no fake lips, no BBL, no lipo.
	And I really mean this when I say it.
	I don't know, maybe I'm gonna sound like a simp, but I think women are beautiful as they are without needing to undergo dangerous, expensive, and frankly unnecessary cosmetic surgery, which I honestly think makes women look worse.
	No offense.
	It does.
	Like I would, for example, and it's not like, how do I explain this?
	I would rather a woman who had small boobs or who was totally flat over big giant fake tits.
	I'd prefer a little belly over a lipo belly.
	I'd prefer small ass over BBL.
	I'd prefer a small upper lip over lip fillers.
	So however the woman was before, I would prefer her that way.
	So you would prefer loose skin over a tummy tuck?
	Like loose skin?
	From what?
	Like a pregnancy?
	Yeah, sometimes it is not even from the cell.
	It's from the mom's mess.
	Sometimes it's not even from having a baby.
	It can be from losing weight.
	You can't lose weight.
	And you have a lot of excess skin in your stomach.
	You prefer that over a tummy tuck?
	I've seen that.
	would i prefer that over a tummy tuck i mean would it be before after I mean, a year.
	Day or is she giddy versus if she already had hurt?
	Yeah, most women don't have like.
	But there is.
	There's a lot of them.
	A lot.
	I mostly think I've dated women who have probably been not morbidly obese at some points in their life.
	You have to note skinny there as well?
	What do you mean?
	In the notes that you have?
	So you only like skinny, skinny girls.
	No, I mean, well, I mean, okay, so.
	But we're going off of topic now.
	I would say.
	Preference.
	I would say I like.
	I could get.
	I'd date a thick girl.
	I'd like thick women.
	Sure.
	I like skinny women.
	I like thick women.
	But like, you're saying you met her.
	In order for a woman to have like loose skin, she at one point have had to have lost.
	She had to have lost a lot of weight at some point.
	Correct.
	So.
	Yeah, and she's natural.
	I think the little loose skin.
	Like you meet her, and she's skinny and she's pretty and everything.
	And she takes her clothes up.
	Do you prefer that?
	Do you prefer that over a tummy tuck?
	Yeah.
	Or she's not.
	Honestly, I've never encountered a woman who was thin, but she used to be morbidly obese.
	So this is like a hypothetical scenario.
	It's hard to say.
	It's hard to say.
	What about race?
	Oh, what?
	Race.
	Oh, race?
	Yeah.
	I would say any race, although probably admittedly, slight preference for Asian women or white women.
	But I'll date a Latina.
	I'll date a black woman.
	To me, it's not a deal breaker.
	But yeah, slight preference, Asian women, white women.
	Cool.
	Sorry, ladies.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	What else?
	Okay.
	So none of us.
	No.
	I said I would date.
	I would date a Latina woman.
	I just don't date.
	I just met you guys.
	I don't think Latina women like me, though.
	I don't think Latino, I'm too white.
	I'm like, a lot of Latina.
	My boyfriend is white.
	Yeah, but I'm not a cool white guy.
	I'm like a nerdy white guy.
	Actually, you look like my brother.
	He's blonde with blue eyes.
	If you go to Mexico, you'll get a lot.
	If I go to Mexico, and there's a lot of shorty girls.
	There's a lot of short girls.
	Yeah.
	And skinny.
	With eyeliner.
	Yeah, like barely wearing anything.
	Look, curvy ain't the worst.
	I like, a couple shows ago, I said I like chubby Asian women, huh?
	He's a human.
	Listen, I'm flexible, okay?
	With.
	Are you?
	What do you mean?
	Oh, the notes.
	On the notes.
	No.
	Super flexible.
	Super flexible.
	I'm flexible.
	Yeah.
	I'm flexible.
	But that's what I'm saying.
	I just think sometimes, look, I'm going to be honest.
	When it, okay, in the bedroom, look, a big fat ass, it's great to look at, but for speed, it ain't always.
	It ain't always, like, you know, like, okay, here's the thing.
	Say, here's the thing, right?
	For speed.
	Like, for like, like, a girl with a big fat ass, that's great to look at, right?
	It's wonderful.
	Giant fucking titties.
	Whatever.
	But, oh, God, beans.
	No, like, if a woman has bigger legs than me, cool, right?
	Right.
	But it makes sex a little harder, you know what I'm saying?
	That's true.
	Like, if she's got big, strong legs.
	Legs like a race.
	She's flexible.
	Flexible, huh?
	I'm just saying, okay, here's the thing, right?
	Here's one of the benefits of a more petite woman.
	Let's say, oh my God, do you guys mind if I get all grabbing them?
	You can throw them up in the air and then catch them.
	No, here's the thing.
	Yeah, close your ears.
	No, barely.
	Girl.
	Okay.
	Thick women, physically very attractive.
	But when it comes to speed, when it comes to speed, right?
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	We get that.
	I died.
	Okay, for example.
	I totally get what you mean.
	Look, I'm not, if a girl has like really big legs, right?
	And she's on top.
	Yeah.
	And I'm trying to like, she's on top, right?
	Let's say I want to rubber clip while she's on top.
	I can't like, I can't reach that.
	That's how you do it from the bottom.
	Huh?
	No, you can't.
	You can't do that.
	You get a what?
	You get a what?
	That's how you do it from the bottom.
	If she's on top, like, you can't.
	That.
	Yes, you can.
	How are you doing it?
	It won't go all the way then.
	No, but see, here's the thing.
	On top backwards?
	No, no, like she's on top.
	Here's the thing.
	I don't like.
	If a girl's on top, I'm still a Christian.
	I'm still a Christian.
	If a girl's on top, I don't.
	I don't like.
	Oh, God.
	Okay.
	I don't like it if the girl is like, if this is, I don't like this.
	If she's like straight up, like, if a girl's on top, I want her chest to chest.
	And I'm, okay.
	I'm like pulling her hair and I'm whispering in her ear and shit.
	Like, I don't want.
	Oh, we're so lovely.
	So where's the difficult part?
	I want this, huh?
	So where's the difficult part?
	If she's like that, you can't really go.
	Like, you can't go.
	You're saying going underneath?
	She's in front.
	Yes, you can't.
	You have to go around the leg.
	You have to go around the leg.
	If you want access to the clip around the water.
	She's chest to chest to you.
	Chest to chest.
	Or on top.
	Huh?
	You can definitely put your hand out like this.
	Am I really going to like what?
	You grab your dog.
	Yeah, grab your dolly up.
	The point of that dog is that dolls.
	Yes, grab your dolly.
	The point I'm trying to make is: if she's got thick thighs, beautiful, but I can't get my hand around.
	But that's the niche of her, not yours, you know?
	Like, it's not going to be like little women.
	That's why he doesn't like that type.
	Okay.
	All of that stuff is going to go out the window when you fall in love.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	That.
	I guess.
	I'm just speaking on the way we get.
	It's not like, oh, I don't want to have sex with a girl because it's harder for me to.
	I'm just saying it does present some challenges.
	You like easy sex.
	Well, hold on.
	It would be like me saying, I can't date a guy with certain inches because he can't hit it from the back.
	I could still date a guy with shorter inches if he knows how to work it.
	But sometimes, sometimes, also, that's the thing.
	I want to say something.
	I'm trying to be a good guy.
	I'm just saying adults know this, but it's different.
	If you got a big, big woman and you ain't got it like that, it's a bigger challenge for you.
	Everybody should.
	I'm talking about big, though.
	I'm talking about big.
	Oh, big.
	I'm not talking about somebody from this to this.
	Like, like, when I'm talking about somebody that's skinny like this and skinny like this, I'm talking about a big woman versus a skinny woman.
	Yeah.
	There is.
	But I mean, they make it happen with big men, too.
	A big girl and a big man, they make it happen.
	All right.
	Oh, okay.
	So, talking my type, right?
	Large labia.
	Very important.
	If she doesn't have...
	What?
	I'm so good.
	Is that what you like?
	She's got to have a large labia.
	Got to have.
	Okay, I'm just kind of.
	She doesn't have.
	I'm just kidding.
	Are you kidding or no?
	I have, I will.
	I can agree with you right now.
	Big labia matter, BLM.
	That's my nonprofit organization, Big Labia Matter, BLM.
	Look, if women are allowed to have penis size preferences, I'm allowed to have a labia preference.
	Yeah.
	Look, it's a, but it's a sad state of affairs that women are shamed if they have a large labia.
	You know, you hear terms getting thrown around: wizard sleeve, beef curtains, Arby's.
	It's not fair.
	I don't like it.
	Women should not be shamed for the way they were born in the same way that men, if they're not packing, they shouldn't be shamed either.
	We should have a bad idea.
	Like, an Audi is equivalent to a micro penis.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	I'm just saying people shouldn't be shamed for the way they were born and their genitalia.
	So, if the way a woman might be shamed for her genitalia, like it's probably going to be either, it's probably going to be related to her having an Audi, so to speak.
	Yeah, because that would be purely aesthetic, and the micro penis has a functional element as well.
	No, but I'm just.
	Is this a deal breaker for you?
	What do you mean?
	Is that a deal breaker?
	No.
	I'll date a woman with an any, but my DMs are open.
	An Audi.
	No, no, no.
	I'm trying to understand.
	Is this list something that you actively evaluate when you're dating a girl?
	Meaning that you go on a date with a girl and you're like, man, I hope that these things are within the first five minutes of conversation.
	I'm asking what her pussy looks like.
	No, I'm kidding.
	I'm not saying you asked her.
	I'm saying, are you thinking about it?
	Maybe that.
	Meaning that you're like, I really like her, but if it gets to that point and just don't look like I want it, I'm breaking up with her.
	No, no, no, no.
	It's not for me.
	Okay.
	It's not a deal breaker because like pussy's bomb either way.
	Am I being vulgar?
	I don't know.
	Look, I'm sorry.
	Not from time to time.
	Okay, yeah, yeah.
	It's like, but do I have in the same way with like the height thing?
	Do I have a slight preference for it?
	Yes.
	I do.
	I'm with you on that because I just went to a swingers club.
	Huh?
	And the swingers club.
	What's that got to do with I was looking for you like you like a media you like women right invited to the you were looking for a micro penis?
	Yes.
	Huh?
	What?
	Wait, you can tell me this bodybuilder.
	Okay, bodybuilder.
	What is going on here?
	Okay, here.
	We've kind of derailed.
	I'll just wrap up really quick on my, and then let's talk personality real quick.
	I like introverted women, typically a bit more quiet, calm, soft-spoken, maybe a little bit shy, a little bit nerdy, is cool.
	Modesty is huge.
	Like, I don't like women with big egos who are super vain divas, that type of shit.
	Brings me peace, doesn't quarrel, doesn't party, doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs, doesn't go to bars or clubs, low body count.
	That's pretty much it.
	When you say don't drink, you mean nothing at all?
	Or like, don't go get drunk on the weekends?
	If she has, like, a glass of wine with dinner or like, that's fine, but because I don't really drink much, I'll look occasionally, maybe very rarely, maybe a couple times a year, I might have a glass of wine, but I never get like totally drunk.
	I don't really drink.
	I don't do drugs.
	I don't party.
	I don't go to the bars.
	I don't go to clubs.
	So obviously I want that commonality with a woman.
	But if she has a glass of wine with dinner, that's fine.
	Whatever.
	Just one.
	Just wine?
	Uh-huh.
	Just wine?
	I guess beer?
	No, just one.
	Oh, just one?
	I mean, it's kind of just more so related to, like, does she party?
	Like, socially.
	But I'd prefer like a girl who doesn't just drink in general.
	I don't.
	But look, if she drinks a bit of wine with, I don't know, I guess that's okay.
	But would I prefer her to just drink in moderation or not at all?
	Yeah.
	Because I don't, I'm not really like that.
	So, okay, let's try to get through all the things here.
	We have just another guy.
	Oh, sorry, this one already came out.
	My bad.
	Here, let me do a couple of the chats.
	We have her and Brandon.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	Body count definitely matters, homie.
	Also, most people don't care.
	Mexicana or Mexicans.
	No one gives a fuck.
	Did I miss this part?
	I don't know.
	Stop listening to the media.
	Also, Brandon, is Grant an Alvaron?
	Alvarone.
	Alvaron or 29 in Columbus giving you nightmares?
	It's Grant Albernon is what he probably misses in 29th.
	I never patrol over in the area.
	That's the hood.
	That's the hood.
	I mean, all the shootings and stabbings and Arizona.
	In Tucson.
	In Tucson.
	29th, Grant Albernon.
	It's crazy over there.
	But I didn't patrol that area.
	I patrol my own.
	Gotcha.
	We got Grid 1 Motorsports.
	Shockingly Toxic Panel tonight.
	Really?
	I thought it's been pretty good.
	Need to buy more stock in MeowMix and prepaid legal services.
	It's looking like record growth for both in the near future.
	Okay, Grid 1 Motorsports.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Negative.
	We have Curtis Leone here.
	Thank you, man.
	It's coming up here.
	Brian has it harder than most guys.
	Unfortunately, he tracks the OF slash X porn stars who literally beg him.
	They even try to bribe him with dinner before he gives it up.
	Well, I've never dated or been with an OS or porn star.
	So thank you, Curtis Leo.
	I appreciate it.
	Were you the one that was trying to get with Layla?
	Because I'll set you up because I don't want her.
	JBS Exhibit A, the girl that was in the article that lives in New York that said she saved herself $150 a week in groceries by going on dates weekly.
	This is a lot more common than you think.
	Nick, do you remember that article?
	Look up, Nick, if you can Google Girl Saves $150 a week on groceries.
	It says, I think a New York Post article, Brandon is talking about what should be.
	Brian is talking about what is.
	Oh, that was the other thing I forgot to mention when it comes to my hesitance when it comes to paying for first dates.
	Is certainly not all women.
	And the majority of women do not do this.
	But there are some women who do what's called a foodie call where they go on a date with a guy without any genuine interest in him at all.
	And they just want a free meal or free opportunity, like free opportunity, free experience, right?
	So that is another concern that I think guys have when it comes to paying for the first date.
	Is she actually genuinely interested in getting to know me?
	Or does she just want a free meal?
	Which to me is like, that's a waste of fucking time, but I guess some people do.
	Well, yeah, men should take the lead, though.
	You know, a woman shouldn't be actually on a date.
	That's kind of weird for her to be asked you.
	Can we go out?
	I mean, a man should take the lead.
	But also, men have to take their.
	We can't just be whining about this stuff.
	You should be having conversations with these women you're trying to date.
	You should know a little bit about them before you go on to invest on that first date.
	You should have conversations.
	I mean, people are acting like you swipe one time and you go on a date.
	It's like, then you're a fool.
	You should be able to communicate and figure out where this woman's head is at.
	Learn a little bit about her.
	See if you even want to go on a date.
	There's no reason to go on a date just to get to know people.
	You can get to know them through text, calling on the phone.
	If you go on a date, you want to make sure that's somebody you want to pursue because you're going to make an investment financially.
	I don't know how dudes get tricked unless they're desperate by a woman that's going on a date every single night for 50 nights.
	I mean, you shouldn't be that available as a man.
	She shouldn't be able to line you up like that.
	Well, they're able to.
	Nick, were you able to find the article?
	Yep, this is it.
	I went on six dates a week and didn't have to buy groceries for two years.
	And this Vivian 2 admitted to hyperbolizing hyperbolizing the number of dates.
	Did you follow her?
	She gives women financial advice on anything.
	Can you show the geez?
	The number of dates she went on per week.
	Let's see.
	She bragged that she went on six dates a week.
	Between 2016, 2018, I didn't buy groceries once, probably saved about $150 a week.
	She captioned the post in which she mouthed a lot.
	Okay, scroll down a little bit more.
	No, no, no.
	Up, up, up.
	So I can read this.
	Stop.
	When they say women are bad with money, but you used to go on six dates a week to avoid paying for groceries.
	So look, this is not the majority of women, but you have that woman is unremarkable.
	Well, there are a couple of possible answers.
	Jesus.
	Okay.
	That woman is an average-looking woman.
	She's unremarkable, not particularly physically attractive.
	She's not like a smokeshow 10 out of 10 supermodel looking woman.
	She's going on six dates a week.
	So even average women are trying to sleep this.
	Yeah, it's all legit.
	So, again, but is she going on dates with is she going on dates with men that are worth a dime?
	She got some ugly ones with me.
	You got to close that tab out or something because it's triggering audio.
	She must have some ugly ones in there.
	But I think that's very rare.
	I don't know a woman even have a child.
	You have to be a low life for you to have the time of day to go on dates every night for six nights in a row.
	You have nothing going on in your life.
	Yep.
	And so as a man, you should know that.
	You should understand what do you do for a living?
	What's your same questions every single day with the different dates, you know?
	Like, oh, so how old are you?
	For a date, for a free food, a free meal?
	Fuck no.
	Not all women move that way, but there's enough that move that way that guys are starting to want to protect their sanity because they don't want to feel like a sucker when they go on a date with this woman.
	And then they feel used in the same way that women probably don't want to feel used in the sexual way.
	Men don't want to feel used in a financial way.
	So anyways, we have Azul69 here.
	Brian, good to see you out here grinding.
	Yank here question.
	Who can bench press more?
	You, Brandon, or me?
	I can rep 35 pounds on each side, probably at least five times.
	Good right.
	Enjoying the show.
	I'm going to say Brandon here is probably.
	35 pounds on each side.
	I don't think 70.
	I think my 13 year old.
	He must have put the wrong Azul thing.
	He must have put the wrong stuff in there.
	Maybe it's 100 and 300.
	It's the other one.
	It's still 35 kg on each side.
	It's still lightweight.
	Oh, shit.
	Enjoy the show.
	Keep doing your thing in IV.
	Thank you, Azul69.
	We have Bender the Offender.
	Brian, what are your thoughts on the situation with the ML pitcher Trevor Bauer?
	It is a false accusation case that shows just how some women can be pure evil.
	I saw the video.
	I actually reached out to him to see if he wants to be on the show and maybe do a one-on-one interview.
	So I didn't fully review the thing.
	I just, but it sounds to me like false accusation ruins his career.
	I did a video about it earlier.
	I did some research on it.
	The woman apparently set him up from the very beginning.
	She knew how much his net worth was.
	She got caught texting a friend about how she's going to take advantage of him.
	She leveraged rough, you know what?
	I don't know if I could say that on your thing, but she leveraged rough play with the man, and she told him, hey, hit me harder and all this other stuff while they were doing the stuff.
	And she leveraged that to act as if he beat her.
	And then she made these accusations.
	He lost his position.
	He had a $100 million contract.
	They suspended him for two years.
	He was out of the MLB.
	And then it just came out that he was innocent.
	Women do this.
	I'll say this, and it's very unfortunate.
	When I was a cop, 99% of the allegations of misconduct, sexually assault, and all that stuff were all fake.
	It's really unfortunate that women who actually that stuff happened to, they don't report it.
	But some women that do report it, they lie about it.
	And in my career, I only had two real cases.
	And I had a detective sergeant that was in investigation for 10 years or 15 years, never had a single legitimate case.
	So it's unfortunate.
	It's fortunate that some women do things like that.
	It makes the ones who are legitimate victims afraid to say something and make people not believe them.
	This woman is a perfect example.
	She made up a whole scenario that she was beaten, and then it ended up being a matter of time.
	Do you think that in your estimation, if you had to assign a percentage, what percentage of reported incidents of assault, let's say, are unfounded?
	What do you mean?
	They're not legitimate?
	They're not legitimate.
	Get to the bottom of it.
	They're not legitimate.
	Of assaults with essays.
	Yeah, yeah, okay.
	I would say 80% probably are probably illegitimate.
	And what do you think are some of the motivations typically?
	Getting caught.
	One girl, it was a crazy scenario.
	She was cheating with her, she was cheating on her boyfriend.
	She climbed up on the second story in the room to cheat.
	Boyfriend came home, catch her.
	She started claiming that she was getting taken advantage of.
	So the boyfriend pulls out a knife.
	The guy puts his hand up, cut his finger off.
	And they ended up finding out after she admitted that no, she was cheating and she was afraid that she was getting caught.
	So she made that accusation.
	Other young women do it a lot.
	Unfortunately, their parents find out that they've been interacting with men or they've slept with somebody and they don't want the baby.
	So they have an opportunity to have the plan B pill given to them for free and an STD check at the hospital.
	And a lot of them go to the hospital and do that, not knowing that the hospital has a duty to report.
	And so we show up to do the report and they make up some fake story.
	So that has happened a lot of times.
	Or some women have regret.
	So they sleep with a guy and then they make the excuse that, oh, I was drunk or I don't remember what happened.
	So they can get the plan B for free.
	And sometimes they're just embarrassed because everybody now knows that they slept with this guy at this party.
	And that's been my experience.
	Now, I did work in a college town, so that's mostly the experience that I had was with these young college girls.
	It's unfortunate.
	You know, maybe I haven't taken every call, but I know of a lot of women that get taken advantage of and they never say anything.
	They don't report it officially.
	Family knows it happened.
	The trauma comes up later in life and they never reported it.
	And I wish that we could reverse that.
	Got it.
	We have a chat here.
	Dark shinobi, it's not that rare.
	They have studies and surveys.
	This is related to the foodie call thing.
	They have studies and surveys showing that one in three women have gone on a foodie call at least once.
	It's gotten so bad, they even showed this on Fox News years ago, which tends to hide the truth of female nature.
	Okay.
	But where's the male responsibility?
	Like, I mean, dude, are you that naive that you can't tell that that girl's using you?
	What investment are you putting into it, or what investment do you expect from her?
	Men got to start taking some accountability for this.
	But I mean, there's definitely some women that are very unassuming that you wouldn't know move that way.
	Like, women are very convincing.
	And men are too, to a certain degree.
	Some men take you on a date and buy you to dinner because they want something at the end.
	Absolutely.
	No, you're absolutely right.
	We do it too.
	You know, I know a lot of people that do that, unfortunately.
	Do you have something quick?
	Yeah, something very quick.
	I think that also there's like a very large, now-growing men where I get like a goalet that they want to meet and they say, I want to get a girlfriend or I want to learn how to meet a girl.
	And that's something that I absolutely can't do.
	So they go all nine are on YouTube and see these men that are not qualified.
	And men are growing weaker or don't know how to talk to girls.
	And that's something that's growing in younger men that I'm starting to see.
	So yeah, it's naive and absolutely not how to talk to a girl getting taken advantage of.
	So we have Curtis Leone here.
	My bad, Brian wasn't trying to offend you.
	I'm not offended, man.
	I should have clarified, I meant the chick across the table from you.
	The two episodes who was begging you to sleep with her.
	She was.
	Oh, yeah, that was Layla.
	Yeah, that was Layla.
	The girl who was begging you to sleep with her.
	She was the ex-star.
	Was that Layla?
	So wait, what was?
	Oh.
	I forgot what your point was, Curtis.
	No, it's not going to happen.
	Like, she want, I mean, first off, I think she's trolling, but no, I don't, she's a porn star.
	I don't want to get with her.
	Okay.
	But it's bullshit.
	She's just trolling.
	Okay.
	So we have a couple more notes here.
	And let me see.
	Julia.
	Oh, you're welcome.
	I have some notes for you here.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	And let's try to get through these quick because we gotta wrap up here pretty soon.
	Working in DC, you said you had experiences where you've been approached by political figures to engage in certain activities.
	Recently, at a congressional caucus brunch, I was approached by the chief of staff of a congressman who was interested in meeting me and given the number to call that provide transportation from event to undisclosed location.
	Yeah.
	So when you say engage in certain activities, do you mean I don't know because I've never engaged, but I'm assuming like a swingers thing?
	No, I think they just like they find they'll pick up girls and they'll go to hotels.
	But like, so like, but they do it, they do it like low-key.
	So they sent, they're like, I'll have a driver come get you and they'll take you here and then I'll meet, you know.
	Oh, okay.
	Sweet.
	You said a congressional con, was there.
	Oh, I mean, it's usually at these like.
	Yeah, so it's someone that works.
	Democrat usually Republican.
	Democrat, surprisingly.
	I know.
	I know.
	I just knew it was going to be a Republican, but...
	No.
	Not because Republicans are uniquely worse than Democrats, but I figured that you would probably be at a Republican event, potentially.
	Okay.
	Or associated.
	You said when you were an 18 and a freshman at ASU, I was told by a girlfriend that since I had a college email, I could sign up for a sugar baby account for free.
	I didn't know it was a sugar baby.
	Wait, what?
	I didn't know it was a sugar baby.
	Was it seeking or it was like, it was like you can meet qualified girls.
	I was naive.
	I was a baby.
	So it was like, you can meet qualified men.
	Yeah, compared to the sticky floors of frat bathrooms, that sounded great.
	So I was like, sure, I'll meet a nice guy who's like...
	But you were aware the term used was sugar baby, sugar daddy?
	Floor sticky.
	Like, not fully.
	No.
	Okay.
	So you said that on the website, what happened?
	The guys that were asking for revealing photographs, correct?
	So if you, no, no.
	So if you were, if you would, if you were a female and you had to call it like an ASU email, you got it for free.
	You got access to the site for free.
	So I thought it was like a dating platform or something.
	And the men paid for it.
	And so I got on and I was like, okay, interesting.
	And I noticed that there was like lots of, there was like, you'd start talking and there's some lots of requests for like naked pictures and you're like, no, But there was this one guy and he was friendly and he was like, hey, can I have a picture of your feet?
	And I did not know that that was like a thing.
	So I was like, oh, yeah.
	I know.
	So I was like, sure.
	So I was like, yeah, that's easy.
	Like, why not?
	So I sent him a picture of my feet.
	I don't know.
	How much did he pay for it?
	He didn't pay anything for it.
	What?
	What?
	No, this is what I'm telling you.
	Like, I thought I was on here, like, maybe to meet, like, love of my life or something.
	I know.
	Meet the love of your life.
	I was after the foot picture thing.
	She found lovely.
	This was before, like, I signed up before, and then he was, and he was talking, he was like, hey, like, he was asking me about my shoe size and stuff.
	And I was like, oh, okay.
	Wait, so for free, you sent him pictures of your feet?
	Yeah, because I wasn't signing up for like some prostitution thing.
	Like, I was not expecting any money transaction.
	But so you actually wanted to date him?
	Potentially, because I was told that.
	Something didn't throw you off a little bit?
	I was like, oh, that's odd.
	But I didn't know.
	I would say more naive.
	Okay, sure, naive.
	I had no idea.
	So you sent him three pictures of your feet.
	He then said that you qualified and then told you he would pay you $1,000 to go to his house.
	$5,000.
	Oh.
	$5,000.
	$5,000.
	He would send a car, pick me up from my dorm, and he would send in a car and bring me.
	And he was like, I have all these high heels.
	And he was like, I would like you to walk on my back in high heels.
	Oh, that's crazy.
	Did you do it?
	No, of course I didn't say he was like, oh, give me five thousand.
	And I was like, oh my gosh, no.
	Yeah, no, I was terrified.
	Does he steal it?
	I was like, oh, you're done.
	I was like, this sounds like the beginning of a horror movie.
	Give me that money.
	This is how I end up in a basement.
	Somebody's weird.
	Let me just say this.
	I know it's weird.
	I want to defend all the men out there that like feet.
	So it's not weird for men to like feet.
	That dude has got something going on.
	Yeah.
	Now let me let me say this.
	Is this a whatever official Brandon Tatum?
	Do you have I am a foot person?
	Really?
	And my wife watching it, she knows she already.
	The first thing that I look at on a woman is her feet.
	Whoa.
	That would be the very first thing.
	Because one thing is I like feet, but also it says a lot about a woman if she take care of her hands and her feet.
	If you see a woman with chipped up, no offense to you ladies.
	You see a woman with chipped up fingernails and chipped toes and they don't take care of the little things.
	In my opinion, I believe that they're not taking care of other stuff.
	That's just me.
	Do you get like it's a turn on for you?
	Yes, 100%.
	Like you get bricked up.
	Sorry, sorry, I'm being volatile.
	Feet are very attractive.
	Feet are very attractive.
	When I would date a woman, I'm being honest.
	That could be a deal breaker.
	Really?
	I dated a young lady.
	She was incredibly gorgeous when I was in college.
	Beautiful model.
	She was a dancer.
	And I liked her at first.
	Yeah.
	And then she, I want to see what her feet look like.
	Okay.
	Right?
	Because the rest of her body was almost perfect.
	Okay.
	Then she said, hey, I have dancers' feet.
	And I was like, it's not much.
	At this point, it's not much your feet can look like that's going to really turn me off completely.
	Interesting.
	But she pulled her socks off and the knuckles.
	Not all dancers.
	But she had made mention to it.
	And them knuckles, her big toe was bigger than mine.
	It was ashamed.
	And it had knuckles on it.
	And I said, oh, man, I can't imagine.
	That's fit for me.
	She likes a ballerina?
	Yeah, she used to do it up on like that.
	I mean, yeah.
	And the knuckles were rough.
	What about socks?
	But I was young.
	Yeah, that's how I put the socks.
	I like when she just kept the socks on.
	But I was a deal breaker for sure.
	I was 18.
	I still liked feet, but I was 18 and that was a deal breaker at the time.
	Okay.
	But it's a real thing.
	Like, there's guys out here that really believe that, and they're not weird like that guy.
	I got my ladia thing.
	You got your foot thing.
	It is what it is.
	Yeah.
	And girls got their height thing and other things.
	Yeah, everybody's got their.
	I look at feet as well on the guys.
	It's not a deal breaker.
	See, you just like me.
	I don't have a foot fetish or anything.
	It's just like, oh, it's good that you have pretty feet, but why are you having those feet like that?
	You know, like if it's like this, like, I'm not dating this guy.
	What?
	That's simple.
	Like, come thou dom food.
	Like, wait, hold on.
	So, wait, just to bring it back to you really quick.
	So, okay, the foot thing, 5,000, you didn't.
	I did not do it, for the record.
	Wait, this was, so you're 29 now.
	You said you were 18.
	18.
	So this was back in 2011?
	2013.
	Oh, 2013.
	So this is like 10 years ago?
	Yeah.
	Maybe I was 19.
	This is almost before the rise of like this shit is way more common now, but even back then, I feel like it was much less common.
	So before the rise of social media, et cetera.
	Bro, that's some like life on easy mode shit.
	Not going to lie.
	Like, there's no dudes out here who have like women.
	Oh, let me pay you 5,000 bucks, like 18-year-old college guys, 5,000 bucks to like do some weird shit.
	We would do it.
	I mean, he made a murder actor.
	I don't know if that would do it.
	I feel like.
	When I was 18, 19.
	Life on easy mode, kind of like unless he murdered me.
	Yeah, but like, that's some life on easy mode shit.
	Life on easy mode.
	Yeah, but what does it really cost to do that?
	Does it show up more about my character that I didn't do it?
	Right.
	No, but I'm saying you have, like, there are women who take advantage of that shit.
	We've had women on show who they'll have sugar daddies who they never even meet, and these guys will like be sending them thousands of dollars of money.
	So, y'all kind of look for sure, but we have an expiration date.
	I put some blame on them.
	That's the big one.
	We'll get to that.
	I put some blame on men.
	These guys are fucking up the dating marketplace for other dudes, but you do get some benefits as ladies.
	Yep, absolutely.
	You said you would date a girl that sells like her buddy or whatever.
	I wouldn't.
	Yeah, you wouldn't.
	I mean, look, never say never.
	Perhaps there's some girl out there who does like tasteful lingerie stuff.
	It's not optimal.
	And I've never dated a woman who does OnlyFans.
	Is it achievable?
	Maybe she sells feet peaks.
	Feet feet.
	Oh my God.
	What if she walks on people's backs and heels?
	Do you have an accent?
	Yeah.
	Oh, I don't.
	I don't know.
	Well, feet peep.
	Peaks.
	Pete Peaks.
	You sound like Borat.
	A sealer girl across from Brian probably got bunions and barnacles growing on her feet.
	Don't say that, Bender the Offender.
	She's probably got her...
	It's probably a rainbow and magical...
	You should show your feet.
	Whoa, what the fuck?
	Okay.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	Am I Ursula or her?
	Do you sell feet pics?
	Is that you're asking for yourself?
	No.
	Did you sell feet pics?
	No.
	Oh, what?
	Oh, I thought you were like trying to.
	She's giving you a hypothetical.
	Oh, okay.
	Huh?
	Huh?
	I don't know.
	I'm no lost right now.
	No, I'm saying.
	I appreciate it.
	So would it be a deal breaker for you if a girl?
	I'm saying, like, will you date a girl?
	I think that's unbecoming of a lady.
	Of a lady friend.
	Exactly.
	That's easier to get over if it's just feet and not the body.
	I wouldn't.
	That's okay.
	I think it's unbecoming.
	No, I wouldn't date a woman that does that because if you're willing to do that, it's the other thing.
	Do you think my story is forgivable?
	Because you walked on his back.
	She doesn't know what you're saying.
	Oh, no, well, I didn't walk on his back, but I didn't know.
	I sent a picture of my feet, though.
	It might be out there.
	No, no, that's forgivable.
	I mean, you can get money.
	No, my face is not it.
	No, it's just like my right.
	I mean, you could, you could, with your face not in it.
	I'm not saying it's right.
	I would advise women to never do this.
	But if your face is not in it, it can be, you can overcome that.
	Yeah.
	If your face is in it, but still, if your face is in it, it could be trouble.
	It could be problematic.
	So you've sent out feet pics.
	You want to know if I would date a woman who's sent out feet pics?
	Because you're kind of feeling me right now.
	That's what's up.
	You are in love with the man.
	Am I right?
	Am I?
	I kind of.
	I think it's the other way.
	Oh, I'm not.
	Yes.
	I think it's mutual.
	I don't know.
	Show me your feet.
	He has pretty feet, honestly.
	Oh, that's cheap.
	No, I don't know.
	I have no idea who charges her feet.
	Okay.
	Just a minute.
	Okay.
	See?
	You know what's funny?
	There's a website called Wiki.
	Sure, pull it up.
	Called WikiFeet and these weird.
	oh he already has it going bro they made a profile about they just find photos of me where my feet are visible Oh, my God.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	How much that would?
	Scroll up to the top.
	And I have a really good rating on WikiFeet.
	Scroll all the way to the top, Nick.
	I've got a 4.14 out of 5 stars on the street.
	This is not me posting the shit.
	This is some weirdo who.
	Wait, all of those?
	Is this you?
	You've gotten four total votes.
	Yeah.
	That's just weird as fuck.
	That's nice.
	Some weird dude out there is.
	Maybe it's a chick.
	I don't know.
	I guess they do.
	Maybe.
	Wait, can we look forward to that?
	You might have a Wiki feet or something.
	Oh, I'm going to get a bad score on WikiFeast.
	You might have a WikiFeet.
	Do you have any, like, you were doing a vlog one day and you're wearing sandals?
	No, I don't think my feet has ever been on the air.
	Okay.
	Because I got.
	Okay.
	I'm just saying.
	I don't know.
	I took a picture of WhatsApp with my kid and my feet was in it.
	I was able to do it.
	You might have a wiki feet.
	The political dude.
	My feet.
	It ain't good.
	Okay, okay.
	Nah, there ain't nobody got wiki feats of me.
	Dude, I need to call the police.
	Dude, is this the song?
	Did you guys create this?
	Did you guys create this?
	I'm not going to lie.
	Even the woman in the bag.
	Nah, bro.
	I'm at the dance in Israel floating in the thing, and I had a picture of her.
	So I couldn't go under the water, so my feet are.
	That's funny.
	That must not plan.
	Oh, my God.
	Dude, somebody's a weirdo.
	They got that footprint?
	How good it did.
	I'm telling you, they be, these feet people.
	It's just men on there.
	That's crazy.
	Is it just, they just do that immediately?
	Margot Robbie.
	I think it's mine.
	It's men and women.
	Wiki feet.
	Wiki feet.
	How did you find that in the middle?
	Because I Googled myself and I was looking at the images and then I saw the URL.
	Wiki feet.
	And it was WikiFeet.
	I was like, the fuck?
	That's creepy, bro.
	Really quick.
	Honestly, if you have.
	He's worrying right now.
	He's so.
	You got to look into that.
	I don't know.
	I hope my wife feed in on it.
	Higher right ratio.
	Higher rating than you.
	I have a better rating than him.
	Yeah, you have a 4.4.
	What?
	Hey.
	I hope somebody goes rate my Wiki feet.
	Okay.
	I thought I had a good feed too.
	What the fuck?
	You do.
	You have 4.
	You have way more pictures than me, man.
	I only have one picture.
	Okay, so really quick, just on her thing.
	Have any of you had an experience like this with the guy where I'll give you $5,000 to do some weird shit?
	Have you had that before?
	I used to be a sugar baby.
	sugar baby have you had a lot of i went out with a few of them A few of them.
	What's like the from each one?
	Let's just say the top three.
	How much money total do you think you made from the top three?
	Each individually.
	So $10,000 from one, $5,000 from another?
	No, it wasn't that great.
	That's why I'm.
	That's why she's not going to be able to do that.
	Did you have to do anything with them?
	How much?
	How much?
	There was one.
	I used to get paid, like, I literally started getting paid $500 just to go on a date.
	Life on Easy Mode.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And then I got paid 2000 once to go out to have drinks with a man who flew out from Ohio.
	And it was easy for me.
	Yes, I did do something with him.
	Because it was really easy because he was a younger white man and he was hot.
	So word.
	What about you?
	Ever had a.
	I mean, the weirdest thing, it was that it was at this party that I got invited.
	And it was like with rich people.
	And they all selected a caddy of the girls that we were there.
	It's like a swingers thing or no.
	Okay.
	No, it was.
	They were playing, like it's, it was a rich people party, and they selected a girl and they were like okay well, you got, you have to help me.
	Like you're a caddy, like let's help.
	The game.
	It was like bocce ball and we were helping and they were like okay, like whatever.
	And then all of a sudden he's like you know what's the price?
	Right, and I was like price.
	It's like yeah, the um, the girl that helps the most out there is more friendly, gets um three thousand dollars.
	And then there's a second one and the third place.
	You know, when you say friendly, do you mean no, it wasn't nothing like sexual or nothing, oh.
	So when you said friendly just, I was like oh, is this just like serving drinks and stuff for them?
	That's not really what I was talking about, really.
	But yeah, what about you ever had like uh, send feet pics for like 500 bucks, that type of shit.
	Sugar, sugared sugar, baby sugar daddy.
	No okay, what about you?
	Probably because you have of right, there's probably guys who want to be your sugar daddy right yeah, but not fit pics.
	I haven't.
	Oh well, it's just, it could be anything.
	Oh um, a request would be with jeans, on black jeans.
	Okay uh, besides that one situation oh one thousand wow, I have some cute black jeans right.
	Um, just that one thing.
	Yeah, I just saw one.
	What about you?
	A dm?
	A dm from an?
	Um.
	An agent asked me if he I, if I knew Big Three, and he told me for 40 000.
	Um um, I knew it was judgment.
	You scoot the mic closer towards you dm, scoot the mic so it's like at the edge of the table.
	Dm?
	Um, one of the oddest.
	He, the actor, was from Greece and he was his agent and I said no because I was scared of getting raped.
	He's gonna give you 40 000, 40 000 to do what I was I was like 24, did have sex with him, but I was scared of being raped.
	40 000 oh, i'm sorry she wasn't here.
	One though okay, what about you?
	Um yeah, people have tried to, but money's not worth it.
	Okay damn, I feel cheap.
	Nobody ever asked me if it was money.
	Well, now that you're on wiki feed, i've never had an offer from a woman like a legitimate, valid offer from a woman.
	Actually, let me think about this.
	Hold on Leila, make him an offer.
	Um, let's see.
	You said I would love to be on an episode with Chase because I agree with his Christian views, but I think he misses the point when he talks about wanting a girl with a low body count.
	I think the important thing is a reformed spirit, even if you may have made mistakes in the past.
	Oh, that's me.
	Yeah, I thought you pointed at her.
	That's, that's what you're saying.
	Um, I think the important thing is reformed spirit.
	Um, so you disagree, like that men should overlook women who have a high body count?
	Um no, it's more, and we talked about it a little at the beginning.
	Yeah, it's like the idea of like just because you have a low body count doesn't mean that you've like exercised.
	You're exercising, you're practicing the virtue of purity.
	Okay, I see what you're saying.
	So like, are you pure?
	Yeah, technically you're pure.
	But like the great example is that pastor, that OnlyFan, pastor's wife turned OnlyFans model that you had.
	So like she got married when she was really young.
	She was a Christian.
	She was all like well-behaved and pure.
	And now she, and then 10 years later, she divorced her husband.
	She has three kids and she's an OnlyFans model and an interesting character to say the least.
	And so it's like that's when you're saying like you want to date a younger woman because she's pure, you're not actually guaranteeing that she's thought through her values or what she believes in.
	Oh, okay.
	So you're tying it into dating somebody who's younger too.
	I see what you're saying.
	By the way, did you ever hear from the guy?
	You texted the guy, right?
	Did you hear from him?
	No.
	Okay.
	He disappeared.
	Rip.
	Okay.
	So you wanted to touch on sex before marriage, age of women as indicator of value.
	Okay.
	So sex before marriage.
	I think, I mean, I don't know.
	You're waiting until marriage, correct?
	Yeah.
	But do you think, realistically speaking, because there's been some slip-ups in the past, do you think like you're going to slip up again?
	No, I don't.
	I've been baptized by the Holy Spirit since then, FYI.
	And then.
	Okay.
	So there's more power helping me to not do that.
	Sure.
	And I think I have a renewed view on why I don't want to do it.
	Like it was more with my ex, I didn't really have that established, like why I really believe in it.
	It was just like, this is what we do as Christians.
	Okay.
	And now I really believe it because the breakup would have been way easier for sure to your point.
	And then this is, I've watched men on the show harp on the importance of a low body count and finding a young woman.
	I don't agree with some of the views expressed talking about how a 21-year-old woman is higher value than a 31-year-old woman.
	You said I think it discredits women who spent the majority of their 20s in school or devoted to their career.
	Yeah.
	I don't think, I don't make it a point to say, I typically don't use the terminology high value for men or women.
	I typically avoid using that terminology.
	I don't think it's usually helpful for describing things.
	But so you're saying.
	So I watched this and it's it sounds I think as a woman and it'd be interesting to hear what the other ladies think I always assume that when I get married like I'm marrying I'm finding a partner.
	I'm finding a teammate.
	Like I'm finding my person that's I'm gonna like in Genesis it's Eve is his ezer and it literally uses it's like the word helper but like God is also described as that frequently throughout the Old Testament and it's like we wouldn't think God is subordinate to us.
	So anyway, so it's like you're finding the person that's gonna like maximize you.
	Wait, you don't want to be you don't you don't want to be submissive to your husband?
	No, I do.
	I do.
	So.
	Do you?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Well, no, just because you said, well, you referenced the verse and how Eve...
	So, like, the partner, like, the match, like, she was his perfect complement in every way.
	And so I always assume that men are looking for that.
	But you said not subordinate.
	Woo!
	Sorry, I guess it's been used in that word has been used to say that women are supposed to have to be like subordinate in a way that's very misogynistic and not like, but and I just used it to say like, it doesn't mean lesser than because we wouldn't describe God as lesser than, even though that word is also used to describe him.
	Okay.
	I'm not familiar with the verse, so I can't really.
	Yeah, I know exactly what's going on.
	I saw a video where a woman went through it and explained Simply, what it means is that the value of being his help meet, his helper, that actual Hebrew word is an incredibly powerful word that is invaluable to the growth and success of Adam.
	It was as if the same way God treats us in his support and help for us as humanity, that same virtue was pinned upon Eve to be that person for Adam.
	So she was incredibly impactful, just as necessary as he was.
	So she wasn't, in fact, not equal to him.
	She was equal to him, but they had a different role.
	So her value wasn't diminished because she was the help meet.
	Exactly.
	She's not, and Eve is also not described as the vessel of Adam's legacy.
	You know what I mean?
	She's not a vessel for him just to like reproduce.
	And I've been watching the, and so all my life, I'm like, oh, cool, that's what I want.
	I'm going to find my partner and it's going to be great.
	And I thought that's a men thing, too.
	And then I started watching these things and some, and I'll, or I'll watch like Pearl.
	And I'm just like, oh my gosh.
	And it sounds like men just want a woman to be either like a mother, they just want her to like create, like to raise their children, and that's it.
	Like it doesn't sound like they're wanting a partner.
	And especially when these men are talking about wanting women that are so much younger than them.
	Like they're not looking for someone that's their equal that is sees things like that's kind of on the same page with them has that's developed their values in the same way.
	They want someone like purity.
	If you want someone younger because she's probably more pure and she's had to let like fewer guys running through her.
	Okay.
	But she's not actually, she's not cultivating purity.
	And then how is she actually going to be your equal match?
	Like it doesn't.
	Well, I mean, there's a whole and okay, so there's a couple points here.
	Are you linking it to because you're kind of linking it to career a little bit?
	Well, so I think it's hard because women, we were told the age group of like 27 to 35 is kind of rough because we were told like we were hit with all these things, like rise of social media.
	That's when the dating app started.
	Women were told to like go get your money, get your bag, like get your education.
	That's what men, that's what is good for you.
	The feminist movement, that was like when we, that was when the narrative of like men suck, I think started going around.
	Like for that, like we just got hit with it.
	All these rise of LGBTQ rights.
	So like it's like you can go do that.
	It's trans movement, all these things, right?
	We kind of got hit with.
	And so fewer people are getting married in that age group.
	And then the men that are like my age want a woman that's like 21.
	Which is unrealistic.
	I think that what's happening is these young men who are not mature are just saying things that sound cute on the internet.
	They want low body count and that means age.
	You also want a woman that's ready and mature.
	A lot of men are not mature in their 20s.
	You want to be 40 and date a 20 year old?
	Y'all not even on the same page.
	That woman don't have life experience.
	I would argue that every woman in here will say, man, I was different in my 20s.
	I was way different in my 20s.
	Now I'm more mature.
	And so most men should not be trying to go for a younger woman just off because her body count.
	Exactly.
	That's not realistic.
	You should consider the body count, but you do want a mature woman.
	Because people, you can't get too caught up on a body count, man.
	I'm telling you, you'll never know anything.
	I'll get a little caught up on it.
	You'll never know anyway.
	You'll never know.
	Unless you actually knew.
	They're not going to tell you.
	I'll get a little caught up.
	Some women may have had a point in time in college where they were real nasty.
	And they don't, and they moved on.
	They'll get caught up.
	I'm saying they moved on and they want to get back with their life.
	And it's been decades since they've been that way.
	Join the nunnery.
	And they're not going to ever tell you the truth.
	Join the nunnery.
	Join the Brian.
	Join the nunnery.
	Here we go.
	Here we go.
	Let's say this.
	Let's say this cannot.
	But what about men, though?
	What about men?
	Can a man have too much of a body count?
	Can he watch porn every day and be healthy?
	No.
	Well, I think it's a little different, though, but it's a little different.
	Okay.
	So do you think young men can just run it up as much as they care to and then later in life?
	No, I don't think like I don't think it's good for men to just run through a bunch of chicks.
	I don't think that's a good thing.
	It's certainly not, and again, same thing with the high-value, low-value terms.
	I don't like using the terms alpha and beta.
	I don't like these terms, but just for the sake of this conversation, it's certainly not alpha to go and bang a bunch of chicks and get herpes.
	It's not alpha to bring your future wife STDs.
	That's not alpha.
	So that's not high value.
	So, and obviously, whether you're a man or a woman, the more sexual partners you have, you're increasing your risk of getting an STD, herpes, et cetera.
	It's not like that's not a W to like fuck a bunch of chicks and then get herpes.
	You rolled the dice, you got the herpes.
	Or be damaged as a man.
	Sure.
	Where you can never take a woman seriously because you're looking for the next.
	But I would say, though, to your point about age and stuff, and I do think that there's an evolutionary component to men preferring younger women.
	And I think it comes down to one, younger women are more fertile.
	So if you're a 40-year-old man and you're who are you going to date?
	Someone between the ages of 30 to 40, and you want to have kids, for example, you might start looking towards women who are 25 to 29.
	They're a better bet for fertility.
	And I think that's just logically, intellectually makes a lot of sense, but also just from a purely evo-psych angle and just evolutionary biological reality.
	Women who, after the age of 35, they get into high-risk pregnancy territory.
	It becomes harder to get pregnant.
	I'm not saying it's impossible.
	You can be in your 40s and get pregnant.
	But if you're a man who's got his life together and you're looking to start a family, it is probably a better bet, fertility speaking, to go for a younger woman.
	And it's just evolutionary.
	Huh?
	Not too young.
	Okay, when I say the word woman, I am talking about adults.
	Are you trying to say like minors?
	Well, you just said the younger.
	Younger women.
	We're talking about adult relationships here.
	I'm not.
	What do you think I'm talking about?
	Fucking 11-year-old?
	What the fuck?
	I'm talking about adult relationships.
	No, you just said younger, so I thought the term was like the younger you go.
	I'm assuming 18 and up.
	Yes, that's what I'm assuming.
	I'm assuming about adult relationships.
	I'm not talking about you.
	No, but you make an incredible point because I do think men, when they get older, they do have to evaluate that.
	And, you know, you're a man in your 40s and you've never been married.
	You don't have any kids.
	You know, you're probably in a weird territory yourself.
	But I do think men like that do want younger women.
	And it makes sense to, right?
	You can't have a woman in her 40s when you're 40 because y'all ain't going to have no kids if that's what you aspire to be.
	But I do think these young guys are in their 30s or late 20s and they're acting like a woman who's 31 is just dead meat.
	And I feel like that's that's crazy to me to believe that because these young men are not ready until they're in their late 20s or 30s.
	Like I told you, yeah, you can beat your chest and say, oh, I'm ready for women.
	I'm dating.
	And your mama still pays your phone bill.
	Those things, young men need to really be focused on developing and becoming a man that can provide first and then start dating.
	And sometimes women who have gone through the phase of being confused about who they are and dating, they come out of that when they go into their late 20s and 30s.
	And I think that's where women are probably prime is right around that area.
	When they're too young, man, they lost.
	They don't know what they want to be.
	100%.
	And you don't want to be with a woman like that.
	That's how you get divorced.
	Yeah.
	And there's actually a divorce rate.
	No, no.
	To that point, when you marry someone five years, there's a five-year age gap that increases the chance of divorce by like 20%.
	And when there's a 10-year age gap, it increases the chance of divorce by 40%.
	Look, you're 29, right?
	I'm 29.
	29, right?
	How do I?
	And apparently, geriatric to a lot of these people.
	Look, look, it's just the reality is that across multiple age cohorts of men, like in terms of just what men find the most physically attractive, it's women who are like 21.
	At any age, most men, purely physical attractiveness, it's 21.
	Whereas women, it tends to match up more so with a woman who's 29 is going to find a guy who's 30, like peak physical attractiveness.
	But men, as they continue to age, they continue to find women who are like 20 to 22 within the just that's a constant when it comes to physical attractiveness.
	There's probably an evolutionary basis for that because younger women are more fertile.
	But there was a study that showed that men prefer women's, like as they get older, their attractiveness to men, it goes up faster.
	Like they prefer men that are closer to their age.
	But men, it did too.
	It was much less significant.
	Like for one, for a woman, every year she aged, she liked to, she found people that were like, it was like five years plus one year.
	So like people six years less than younger people.
	Okay, so you're 29, right?
	So let me think.
	Okay, I'm 34.
	I can't think of the benefit.
	What's the benefit of dating a 34-year-old instead of a 24-year-old?
	No, no, for me, because I find a woman who's 24 much more physically attractive.
	It's a better woman than 34.
	It depends on the woman, right?
	A 34-year-old woman.
	Oh, they're going to get triggered.
	A 34-year-old woman that takes care of herself and is healthy and active and stuff.
	She can look just as good as a younger woman.
	Disavow.
	You don't think that's a good thing?
	Are you saying it because I'm 24?
	No, just by nature.
	Like, like down here, when I drove in today, these are little kids out here.
	They're party chicks.
	But they're party chicks.
	But I don't want a party chick.
	But their bodies and their shape and what they look like is very physical.
	They're not attractive.
	To me, they're not attractive.
	They are.
	These are little kids.
	They're not seeing how they dress.
	No, because they look like little kids.
	Man, they do.
	They're still in their teens.
	They look like little immature women.
	It's not developed.
	They're just like little kids out there.
	When I see them, I see little kids.
	I see young women.
	There's nothing a 20-year-old can do for me as a 36-year-old man.
	I don't even want to look at them.
	They have no experience in life.
	They've done nothing.
	They still got to be a person.
	I don't want to say that.
	Like a woman's experience in life to me is not really something that I'm looking for.
	So what do you want?
	You want a vessel for your semen?
	What?
	Because, no, but if you don't want her as a partner, like someone that can be equal to you, then what do you want?
	So, and I don't.
	Equal.
	Okay.
	This whole thing.
	But most women don't want equal.
	You want a guy who makes more money than you.
	You want a guy who's taller than you.
	You want a guy who's confident.
	You want a guy who's entertaining.
	But you want a girl who's more virtuous.
	You want a girl who's maybe calmer and will calm you down.
	You want a girl who is probably beautiful.
	You want a girl who's fertile.
	You want like a girl.
	And that's not going to be a woman.
	That's okay.
	There's not going to be a woman who's probably around my age.
	I think, Brian, you're around the age where women are probably in their prime.
	It's 34?
	I think early 30s, early 30s.
	Women is 24.
	I think, I'm not, when I say prime, when I say prime, physical prime.
	No, no, when I say prime, I'm not talking about physical.
	I'm not talking about any of that.
	I'm talking about the whole package of a woman.
	Yes.
	That's what I think.
	When they're 25, I mean, just I think you may deal with a lot of immature women when you're 25.
	They're not going to understand you, unless they raised by quality parents.
	Now, if they got good parents and they're raising a household that has them in a position where they're very mature, a 25-year-old woman will be incredible.
	But when you're in your 30s, 20-year-old women are in a different generation than you are.
	They don't understand the things that you would understand as a mature man in your 30s, headed into your late 30s.
	I think, I could be wrong, but I'm just saying for me, when I was, you know, when I'm in my 30s, 18 and 20-year-olds, and 21, 22, I never even thought about dating girls that what I would say is that there are plenty of women in any age that are immature, that are toxic, that are red flags, that in any age group.
	So it's not like just because a woman's 34, that that means that she's magically going to be a fantastic partner.
	Now, also, there's often a common thing that comes up with this conversation is, well, what do you have in common with someone who's, you know, five years younger than you, 10 years younger than you, whatever it may be?
	Commonality is not a, is not very high on the totem pole, in my view, when it comes to romantic partners.
	And I think that's the case for both men and women.
	She doesn't like the same movies as I like.
	I don't really care.
	Commonality, what do men and women have in common really to begin with?
	So commonality is not super important to me.
	What I will say, and I've got a list here of kind of like why you might want to date a woman who's okay, weird, just clarification here, woman, so adult woman, because people are trying to want to shift it into, okay, you're, okay.
	So more physically attractive, I would say more emotionally available, more romantic, more energy, more energy, optimistic for the future, more time to live life and travel the world before starting a family, more fertile, less baggage and trauma.
	That's really big.
	The more relationships you've had, you get more baggage.
	You have more relationship trauma.
	You're jaded.
	There's only room for one jaded person in this relationship, and that's me.
	Oh, okay.
	More open to new ideas, more agreeable, typically easier to build a life with.
	Less likely to have gotten with, like we were talking about before, the more sexual partners you've had, you've probably landed on a guy who's a top fucking G.
	And I don't want to be like, you're going to be like when in the dark recesses of your mind, once you've been with a really top fucking guy, you're not going to be happy with Mr. Normal.
	I think, I do think women will probably answer this.
	I mean, some of you guys have been with guys, and some of the guys in the past are, you couldn't even, like, you have no recollection emotionally with that person.
	I mean, I don't know if that's the way you go.
	Some women get over that.
	Right.
	They don't have no feeling for the guy anymore and it's like a blur in their mind.
	Just like me, my wife was like, you slept with some girl.
	And I'm like, I don't even remember.
	I have no recollection.
	I don't even know what it was like.
	I just know I slept with the girl, but I don't know what it's like.
	I'm so far removed from that at this point that it's not really adding any issues to my life.
	But Brian, I think you're also generalizing women in that I agree with you.
	Women, younger women are more physically attractive and that's where our prime is.
	They're more fertile.
	But also, women, like you said, in their early 30s or maybe later in their 20s, some women have done their work.
	They've gone to therapy.
	They've done their work.
	They have gone in their careers and they're there to take care of you.
	They're going to stop partying.
	One thing that we talked, what we talked about, me and my future fiance, we're going to do it.
	But I'm going to get rid of my Instagram because that's something that we talked about.
	And I decided, yes, because I want to do this.
	I want to stop partying.
	I'm dedicating my life to you.
	And we're not all the same.
	He's going to start going to therapy because we're both doing this together.
	It's not that.
	Wait, let me just wait.
	I'm not finished.
	The thing I'm telling you is that not all women are bringing excess baggage, are bringing, have been trained.
	The reality of life, the longer you've lived, the more likely you are to have accrued baggage and trauma.
	wiser you are but i have done what i'm wise enough for the both of us No, I have done therapy.
	That's why I've done my own trauma therapy because I no longer bring it.
	She's been through therapy and has had all this.
	I have shown you.
	So you don't want a girl who's really decided who she is and has established her values.
	You do it for him.
	I did it for myself.
	And then I have a question.
	Why don't you want that in a woman?
	Why don't you have a child?
	Why don't I want a woman who hasn't had a bunch of trauma?
	No, Why don't you want a woman who has had enough time to what?
	Just go, Calm down.
	Why don't you want a woman who has had enough time to really figure out who she is and believe that and live out those and like establish her values and her virtues and live those out?
	And that doesn't necessarily mean that she's been run through a bunch of times or has all this relational baggage.
	That doesn't mean that, but she's been on the earth longer, so she's had a long time.
	That's not an attraction.
	And by the way, in 19 years old.
	It doesn't make you more attractive because you've had more life.
	Emotional IQ, emotional health.
	19-year-olds who have more trauma than I've been way more.
	100%.
	Yes, there are deeply troubled women of any age group.
	However, it is the case that as you move through life, you start accruing certain traumas.
	Not necessarily certain baggage.
	How do you know that?
	If you've had 10 boyfriends versus one, you probably ran into a toxic fucking guy.
	Three relationships.
	Dude, I'm not talking about you.
	The sun does not revolve around you.
	I'm not saying it revolves around me.
	I'm just saying that's a complex and unique.
	That's why I'm saying don't generalize women.
	But this is a dating podcast.
	We're operating in generality.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	I'll give you that.
	Sorry about that.
	The reality, look, it's just.
	Are you, so you're saying it's a deal breaker age?
	No.
	No, absolutely not.
	No, and the reality is, look, I'm not like hanging out at college parties trying to fuck a co-ed.
	Like, I'm not trolling at college parties.
	Oh, let me get a sorority check.
	Actually, the reality is most of the women I date are actually around my age.
	And actually, in recent history, I've dated women who are, some women who are older than me.
	I've dated a woman who's 39.
	I dated a woman two, three years ago who was 45.
	Granted, she didn't have kids.
	Still, you know, okay, that's another conversation.
	That's very open-minded.
	But most of the women I date, I say, are late 20s, early 30s.
	But I'm not going to sit here and say when it comes to just like the women who I think are most physically attractive, like it's probably a 21-year-old girl.
	I'm going to be honest.
	I would encourage young men who want to be married in a relationship to not think too deep into it.
	Just become the man you need to be.
	And when you're in your mission and your purpose, you'll find a woman and don't, you know, I guess lose that opportunity because you're looking at age or something like that.
	I married my wife and she was 36.
	You know, yeah, I thought about it and I said, you know what?
	I already had a kid.
	She's older than you.
	Yeah, she's older than me.
	So I already had a kid.
	So I thought about it, but I love my wife.
	And God ended up blessing us with one kid.
	And that's enough for me.
	I don't want no more kids.
	But that was good enough for my life and my family.
	You know, a person can get so caught up in, I want to be with a younger woman because we're going to have 15 kids.
	And you meet a younger woman and she has.
	Can you guys wait like just 10 more minutes?
	Or if we don't rap by then, just you're welcome to excuse.
	I know it's getting late, so if you need to excuse yourself, that's fine.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, but you know, you get the younger woman because she's young and we're going to have 15, 20 kids, but it's a woman who's immature.
	You end up getting a divorce or she dies at a young age.
	You don't know what life has for you.
	So don't get too caught up in this minutiae.
	Just focus on being a great man.
	Build your values.
	And when you're ready and it's time for you to be with somebody, be open-minded to a woman that's there to add value to your life.
	Right.
	It could be a 21-year-old.
	But people get so caught up in these stats that they overlook an incredible woman that's probably older than they would like.
	I thought that I wanted a younger woman than my wife, but what if I said, man, she's 36 years old?
	I can't have kids with her.
	I'm not going to be with her.
	I think that that may be a negative if you carry that.
	It's okay to think about it.
	It's okay to understand the numbers.
	But people got to start looking at their lives as individual experiences.
	Right.
	And don't get caught up in the generalization.
	Not saying don't look at it, but don't get caught up because you may walk away from an incredible woman or an incredible man because you're thinking of these stats.
	I agree.
	Oh, I mean, look, again, most of the women I've dated in, I don't know, the past couple years, actually probably are within my, some older, some younger.
	You know, dated the 39-year-old, dated the 29-year-old when I was 33, whatever.
	I do want to go around the table, though.
	What's the oldest guy you've dated in terms of age gap?
	Like dated, dated, dated, dated, or went out with?
	Had sex with?
	Had sex with, dated, relationship, whatever.
	65.
	And you were how old?
	I was 29.
	Okay, so that's...
	Okay, what about you?
	13-year gap.
	13-year gap?
	What about you?
	Four-year.
	Four-year?
	Four.
	Four.
	What about you?
	What's the biggest gap?
	15 years.
	Oh, my God.
	So he was 40.
	I was 28.
	I was 28.
	He was 44.
	So is that 16?
	You were 28.
	Wait, but so hold on.
	You are complaining about men dating younger women, but you're stealing a 45-year-old from a 40-year-old woman.
	So what are you complaining about?
	What?
	No!
	You're not complaining.
	You're complaining.
	Hold on.
	No, no, no.
	You're complaining that men in your age range, men who are like late 30s, are not interested in you.
	They want to chase the 21-year-old.
	Here you are dating a 45-year-old and you're 29.
	Well, I was 28.
	What about the 40-year-old women you're stealing him from?
	I was 28.
	And one of the things, one of the ways I matured over this last year was realizing that.
	So look at that.
	See, growth.
	When you were 21, when you were younger, say like 21, did you ever date an older guy like in his 30s?
	No, I only dated guys that were my age.
	Okay, sure.
	What about you?
	10-year gap.
	What about you?
	Biggest.
	Four.
	Four-year.
	Okay.
	Gotcha.
	And also, didn't you say earlier in the conversation that there's you're you're currently crushing on a 23-year-old?
	Yeah.
	Whoa.
	Okay.
	So why are you.
	I would like light crush, like light, light crush.
	But you know, it sounded like you're pretty into him.
	And he's 23.
	Yeah, which is like the reverse.
	So I think that's helping the colour.
	I'm like, that's the reverse.
	I'm not sure.
	It is the reverse.
	But you're saying in your pre-show messages to us, you were saying how people should date their equals.
	They should date in their, I'm trying to find the exact.
	Let's see, hold on.
	Why do, this is what you said in your pre-show messages to us.
	Why do men seek to date and marry girls way younger than them?
	Look for partners your own age.
	Biblically speaking, men should be looking for an equal.
	So you're currently crushing on a 23-year-old.
	You recently dated a guy who was, what did you say?
	I wouldn't say recent.
	I mean, that was in January.
	We went on a few dates.
	Wait, so you were 24?
	I was 28.
	He was 44.
	This is a year ago.
	44.
	That's a 14-year age gap.
	But why are you saying, why do men seek to date and marry girls way younger than them?
	Look for partners your own age.
	You just went on a date within the past year, a guy who's 14 years your senior.
	Two years ago, but it was January 2022.
	You were 28 years old.
	In any case, you were 28 years old.
	You're now 28.
	Fine, fine, fine.
	Okay, yes.
	Now, about the crush, that's why I'm saying it is just a crush.
	I'm not going to act on it.
	I'm not going to go and try to date him.
	It's just like, and I'm like, it is ironic.
	So you're saying that, but if he hit you up, you would date him, right?
	But what's the crush about?
	Is it attraction?
	Or is it that the gentleman brings something to the table that intrigues you?
	Or is it just he's a little bit of a lot of younger people?
	No, it's not really about looks.
	It was we had, we had a, I had a, I ended up having a two-hour car ride with him unintentionally, and we had a really good conversation and I had a lot of fun.
	And then we were on this like retreat, this Christian retreat.
	I'm just exposing myself.
	We were on this Christian retreat and we just like hung out and it was so fun.
	Haram.
	So what's wrong with that?
	So I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure because of the, because I think, because I'm sure he would never, he would not be looking at me because I'm basically a senior citizen.
	No, you're, you're an attractive woman.
	He'd probably entertain cuddling.
	He'd probably premarital cuddle, but like he wouldn't consider dating 129.
	But so yeah, this is the problem with trying to do the whole dating thing.
	I think you should date within your maturity.
	And I know my wife is on the chat.
	I've seen her.
	Hey, baby.
	You got to date within your maturity.
	You and him may be on the same level, even though it's a different of ages.
	And I would hate for him to be listening to guys online and not you.
	Listen to guys online.
	No, him to listen to like, you know, the people that we mentioned at the beginning of the show that tell a young man is that she has no value at 28.
	She's been ran through.
	Yeah.
	It's like, no, don't really take that.
	Talk to her.
	Figure out what her story is.
	And that may be the greatest connection you've had.
	And y'all live to be married for 45 years.
	And you may only have two kids.
	Yeah.
	You're in the window where you can have plenty of kids.
	So people shouldn't try to think of that too soon.
	It's not worth it.
	I just saw a woman on Instagram.
	She had five kids starting at 38.
	She had 38, 39, 40.
	Her last kid was 44 years old.
	Courtney Chris Ash.
	That dude ain't mad.
	Is that dude mad?
	Is she 44 years old having kids?
	And he mad.
	His life is happy.
	You can have kids.
	But just to bring it back to this, I mean, so you're saying, why do men seek to date and marry girls way younger than them?
	But you pretty recently, you said within two years, you dated a guy who is 14 years your senior.
	So like there's two parts of this equation.
	Like it takes two to tango.
	I think it happens to be the case that there's a decent subset of women that are attracted to older men.
	True.
	And in the same way that men are attracted to younger women, younger women are attracted to older men.
	And if you look at the average age of marriage, I think it's men are about two years older for the average age of, it's like, I don't know, 30 or 29 for men, 27 for women.
	So it just happened.
	And most women typically, I would say, date men that it might not be an extreme gap, but are one, two, three years older than them.
	You typically see that play out.
	I think it just happens to be the case that men are attracted to younger women.
	Women are attracted to older men.
	Now, I mean, there's obviously bigger and bigger age gaps that we can talk about, but it's just it's okay when you do it.
	Like it's okay for you to date an older guy, but what you're upset that men within your own age group are dating women who are in their 20s.
	But you're stealing, you are basically stealing a 45, 44-year-old guy from a woman who's in her 40s in the same way that a 20-year-old woman is stealing 30-year-old men from you.
	She may steal the 20 or 20.
	I may steal some 23-year-old man, you know.
	But women do want older men.
	I mean, my wife told me we were first, we weren't even dating, but I was interested.
	Oh, she was too young.
	I was interested in her.
	We were on a three-way text message.
	My friend tried to, you know, he tried to play matchmaker.
	He didn't tell her I was on the text.
	And he said, oh, man, what's up with you and Brandon?
	And she was like, oh, he's really nice.
	But, you know, I'm looking for a guy that's like 10 years older than me.
	So my wife was looking for somebody in their 40s.
	So, but because she didn't stick to that whole thing, she ended up meeting the man of her dreams that happened to be four or five years younger than her.
	Gotcha.
	And I was looking, but meet me.
	I'm more attracted to a younger woman, not a woman in her 40s, unless she's incredible shape.
	But I didn't stick to that model.
	I said, I'm going to go with the woman that matches my life.
	And that's what I did.
	I like that.
	And there's just like, I also don't think with the woman dating an older man, that's like a, it's still positive about the status of the older man.
	The narrative, what I think is problematic is that the narrative about the younger woman is that there is this knock on women, on women, on older women.
	Do you see what I mean?
	It's like, it's like, it's like, and there's this caught, and there's a narrative about on some of these podcasts that like older women are lower values.
	So at the point that like a 29-year-old, I feel like I'm, yeah, the senior citizen.
	And that's not a net positive for society.
	You're not as a human being.
	We're not talking about your value as a human being.
	We are talking, though, there's just realities when it comes to the dating marketplace.
	And if we're talking about the dating marketplace and we're having conversations of who is more valuable in the dating marketplace in the same way that a guy who's six feet is probably more valuable on the dating marketplace than the guy who's 5'3, it's just an it's just the reality.
	Like there's all kinds of things that might make you more valuable in the dating marketplace.
	And as you age, yeah, you're just not only for women.
	Well, I actually it's true though.
	It's true though, because and I see what people are saying with the podcast.
	They got to be careful the way they say it.
	But what the encouragement is, is for young women to be more serious about their dating when they're younger.
	I agree.
	Then to play and play and play until you're 35 with all this baggage.
	And then you expect to get a man that's that's far beyond that.
	So I get it.
	So women should understand to a certain degree that you do need to be intentional more in dating.
	Yeah, because I cannot wait till you later.
	You know, we a lot, and I know a lot of girls in my case, we were told, focus on your education, go get your bachelor's, go get your master's.
	You were sold a lie.
	You were sold a lie.
	Yeah, and now I'm, yeah, and so now I'm adding value to myself, but into the value that I'm told is not.
	But you're 29.
	Somebody's an idiot to think that somehow you don't have value at your age.
	You're talking about women that may be on the cusp of worrying when they get into their late 30s.
	That's where women probably should worry because the likelihood of having children, things like that become a lot more complicated.
	29 years old?
	Well, I bet there's some people on the chat that are.
	They're probably single, but you know, you're a baby.
	Compared to life in adulthood, you're a kid.
	You're not even 30 yet.
	You still got a long way to go.
	Some of these immature men may be a little self-conscious about their options or whatever the case may be.
	They may think that, oh, because she's 29, she slept with all these men.
	And they get bombarded with that stuff in their mind.
	Women should never be foolish enough to think that in your 20s that you somehow, these young boys ain't the man for you.
	You know, you need to get a real man that's mature enough and that understand the value that you have and that's willing to forgive you for what you've been through, not painting the picture of you amongst all these other women.
	I'm telling you, the guys that guys that do this online, and I know they hate me, they're single.
	They're single.
	And they try to tell a young, they're telling these young men these things, and they're single.
	They're not qualified, in my opinion, to only have the mic.
	I think young men should listen to podcasts.
	They should listen to these men.
	They should also listen to men who are married because it takes a little bit of sacrifice, a little bit of maturity, a little bit of growing up as a man to actually officially marry somebody.
	But you can't just, these young men can't get bombarded with this because they start to give up hope and they look at these women as like damaged goods.
	Not every woman is sleeping around and getting ran through and have a crazy body count.
	There are women that do it.
	Avoid those women.
	You should be able to have a conversation with a woman and know, oh, your body count is high.
	Then don't give her another body count.
	Move on to another woman.
	But a lot of young men, and I've seen it on these shows, they tell young men, go out, get with all these women, run it up and do all these things.
	Women aren't, you shouldn't do that.
	I wouldn't tell a young man that.
	It's not conducive for a young man's growth to be a hoe.
	Just because the difference between men and women.
	Because women do it and they get shamed for it.
	Men do it, they get celebrated for it.
	But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what the world believes.
	You do not want to be a damaged young man.
	And you do not want to fall into the trap of being single forever.
	Exactly.
	Because these young men are going to be single because we just tell them, she's 35, 30, a 28-year-old woman is great for this young man.
	She got her stuff together.
	She's mature.
	Maybe she had a little life.
	She's over it.
	She had incredible value.
	But because she's 28 and he can't have kids with her and can't have her future, he's going to walk away from that woman and go to a mature 21-year-old and then end up getting a divorce.
	I hope I'm not ruining your show.
	No, no, no.
	Uh-oh.
	Alvin Sam donated.
	$500.
	Mute, Brandon.
	Is that a mute?
	I think we have a mute.
	I think, but just speak, that's a five-year-old.
	Hold on a minute.
	$500.
	Does that trigger that we have an option to mute someone's microphone?
	No, I think we lowered it.
	Do I?
	That is mute the microphone.
	Okay, I guess that's a two minute.
	I agree with you.
	I agree with you.
	Totally agree with you.
	We all agree with you.
	You got to mute.
	You have to mute my.
	500 bucks.
	You have to mute.
	It's only 10 minutes.
	It's only 10 minutes.
	Nick, do you know how to mute?
	It's the red button?
	Are you muted?
	Okay, do it.
	Count.
	Anyways, we're going to wrap up here pretty soon, Alvin.
	I like Brandon.
	It's been good.
	I disagree with you a little bit here.
	I feel like I shouldn't have, it's not fair for me to, without you being able to respond.
	So I agree with you that there's definitely women who, at any age, that can make fantastic partners.
	100% agree with you.
	However, I think men are allowed to have preferences, standards, and boundaries just the same way that women are.
	I think we know that women are very selective.
	They're very picky.
	And I think just some of the conversations about, hey, men, if you are capable, because look, the reality is most 21-year-old women are not interested in 35-year-old men unless those 35-year-old men are really attractive in some sort of metric.
	Like, it is a bit of cope, like, oh, at 35, like you're in your peak.
	Most men at 35 probably are not capable of securing like a hot college girl.
	Like, it's just reality, right?
	However, if you are an attractive guy in your 30s and you can get a woman in her mid-20s or early 20s, and she's really physically attractive and she's a great woman, like I, it's, I guess the question that it makes me think of is what does like, what's the benefit of dating a 35-year-old over a 25-year-old?
	Because what do you better?
	What's the benefit of the 25 only because they're body?
	Is that the only reason?
	Yes, because physical attractiveness is important to both men and women.
	Women care about various physical characteristics, height.
	Is the guy, does he have a full head of hair?
	Is he muscular?
	Penis size.
	There's all kinds of things that women care about when it comes to physical attributes.
	And most of the things that women care about in men when it comes to physical attributes are completely out of men's control.
	Whereas most of the things that men care about when it comes to women's physical attributes, typically weight, is 100% women's control.
	But in any case, yes, both men and women care about physical looks and beauty and attractiveness.
	It is what it is.
	And it happens to be the case that men view, say, women, I think the typical thing is between 18 to 25 as the most physically attractive.
	Like, I think I was, and I think this applies to men too to some degree.
	I think I was better looking 10 years ago.
	I'm starting to get wrinkles.
	Like, you know, my skin's not as taut or whatever.
	I'm not as in good physical shape as I used to be 10 years ago.
	It is what it is.
	Like.
	But you said on the meat, like 35s, they're like looking already for someone to get married.
	You know, if they're not married by that time, they're looking for someone.
	I believe so.
	So the guy that I just recently dated, he was 37.
	And he will treat me like super good and everything.
	It just didn't work out.
	He was like too far from me.
	He treated you super good.
	Did you treat him super good?
	Yeah.
	Oh, but you're, you're, that's a 13-year age gap.
	I thought that's impossible for someone who's as young as you to treat a guy nicely because you're younger.
	I didn't say that.
	No, that's not what I'm saying.
	But that's the argument that other people are trying to make, that because of your youth, you are not capable of being a good person.
	It changed my 34, not 21.
	Oh, okay, three years.
	Would you have still been a good partner three years ago?
	Probably not.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay, well, okay, then.
	But look, I think it's, shit, I'm losing my train of thought here.
	You're just not ready.
	What's this 21?
	College, parties, whatever you don't want to in a girl, that's what they're doing.
	Not all 21-year-olds are drinking and partying.
	Most of them.
	Sure, but that's not the type of girl I want.
	That's not the type of girl I want to begin with.
	Right.
	So if I were to find a 22-year-old girl that doesn't drink, doesn't really party.
	Probably she's not mature enough.
	I disagree.
	But will you admit this?
	Like, this is like probably, we have people in their late 20s.
	We have people in their 30s here.
	You're 40, correct?
	I bet you know a ton of immature motherfucking 40-year-old men, don't you?
	Yep.
	Even older, right?
	Yep.
	I bet every single girl here knows a guy who's just your age or even older than you that's fucking immature.
	I bet you know some girls that are your age that are fucking immature, right?
	So age has nothing to do with your maturity.
	My view is, my view is, is I would rather, like, I can find a girl who's 23 that's more mature than a 33-year-old.
	It's the HK experience and the maturity, like, level, I guess.
	Here, do you have a response?
	Because I think I've thoroughly angered you.
	No, I'm not.
	Do you think I'm angry?
	Oh, no, you've kind of been grimacing a little bit.
	I think it's sad, because, well, I mean, I think if what you said is true, that we bought into a lie, then you have a generation of like a 10-year gap of the generation of women that it was out of our control.
	Or it wasn't out of our control, but I guess, yeah, we bought into a lie that we were.
	You've been told to lie, to focus on your career and disregard men.
	But I think I'm higher value than I was when I was 21.
	First of all, I think I was a late bloomer.
	So I actually think I started, I was not cute until I was like 25.
	Anyways, but whatever.
	Wait, question for you.
	Question for you, though.
	And I know you guys got to leave.
	One last question.
	If you guys got to totally get it.
	So you're 29 now, right?
	Yeah.
	Do you think you're more physically attractive now than you were 10 years ago?
	I actually do.
	Do you think you will be more physically attractive at 39 than 10 years?
	Probably not, unless I have Kim Kardashian's facialist.
	We'll go around the table.
	So do you think, two-part question, do you think that, and this is for the whole panel, do you think you're more physically attractive now than you were 10 years ago?
	And do you think you will be more physically attractive in 10 years from now?
	Starting with you.
	Go ahead.
	No.
	And no.
	So wait, no.
	So you're more physically attractive today than 10 years ago?
	Before.
	Oh, 10 years ago.
	So at 29, or 28 versus 38.
	Yeah.
	And then you're more attractive.
	You think you're more attractive now than you will be at 48.
	I think I'm cuter, but not more physically attractive.
	Sure.
	What about you?
	Yes and no.
	Okay.
	Also, I should change the question a little bit.
	I shouldn't make it 10.
	So are you, well, you're 24 or so.
	course I'm looking better were you I think at 24 it's not do you think you'll be more attractive in ten years No.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	You're 40.
	Do you think you were more attractive at 30?
	No.
	I think I'm more attractive.
	Do you think you're more attractive now?
	Do you think you'll be more attractive at 50 than you are now?
	Maybe, who knows?
	Come on.
	My family members look very young.
	They all look young.
	So, okay, so you were not as attractive.
	You're more attractive now at 40 versus when you were 30.
	I feel I am, yeah.
	and you'll be more attractive I'm not saying I'll be more attractive but I mean, I don't know No, but that's the question.
	Do you think you'll be more attractive at 50 than you are now at 40?
	No, probably not.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I think I'm more attractive.
	You're 27.
	Yes.
	Let's say, do you think you're more attractive at 18 or now at 27?
	Now at 27.
	Okay, do you think you'll be more attractive at 37 versus now at 27?
	I hope so.
	No, it's not about whether you hope.
	What you um, do you think you'll be more attractive when you're 37 than now at 27 wrinkles?
	No okay, you're.
	I think you already answered.
	What about you?
	You 34.
	I was more attractive when I was 24, more attractive.
	Do you think you'll be more attractive at 44 versus now at 34?
	Oh um, I'm gonna be less attractive at 44, and then well, you're 24 so, whatever.
	Do you think you'll be more attractive at 34 than at how you are now at 24?
	Okay, I think.
	Can we unmute him?
	Has it been 10 minutes?
	Yeah, he's unmute.
	Okay, I'm about to say I'll give 500 to get me out of mute mode.
	I think the real question you should ask every single woman on the panel is that, are you a better woman?
	Are you more prepared for a relationship now than you were 10 years ago?
	Do you feel like that you would be better, more equipped and more advanced as a woman of course better to your husband 10 years from now than you are today.
	And I think every woman will say like I'm, I'm smarter, I'm wiser, I'm a better woman, I'm more prepared now than I was 10 years ago.
	Your looks may diminish slightly some if you work out.
	You can control that.
	You can work out.
	You still look good, still look fresh.
	That may deteriorate a little bit, but the value that you add to a man may increase.
	Can I ask you a question though?
	So for you, before you met your wife, when you were still single, would you?
	Let's say there was a woman who all the personality criteria like, insanely amazing, all metrics, just emotional intelligence pleasant, feminine.
	She took care of you nurturing caring, all that stuff, but she was morbidly obese.
	Brandon Mels donated $19.
	Thank you, Brandon Mels.
	Brian, you have the wrong Brandon on the panel too.
	I missed some of what my fellow Brandon said, but I do think guys online take a lot of the red pill stuff to the absolute extreme.
	We just need a good woman, regardless of age.
	Yes, Brandon Mels, thank you.
	Thank you, Brandon.
	Look I, I don't think.
	I think things obviously aren't black and white when it comes to dating.
	I think there's room for to be flexible but so perfect woman, but she's morbidly obese.
	Well, you say morbidly obese?
	I mean how, how bad are you talking?
	350, because 350 350 well, you know, that's.
	That's kind of a hypothetical.
	You mean, if my wife became three no like because, like she became big cuz, because if she's big like that.
	I don't think that I'll.
	I'll talk to her in the first place.
	I probably wouldn't get a chance to know her.
	But let's say you, you got to know this woman, morbidly obese.
	She's amazing amazing, great woman, but she's morbidly obese.
	Well, do she?
	Does she exercise?
	Can we go do things?
	Can we be active together?
	I'm saying it's a hard push, I don't I I'm, I don't want To be with a woman that's using the I'm using extreme to try to articulate a point, but I guess what I'm saying is like there has to be an age pair, there has to be physical attractions.
	But you act like women in a 20, 29, 30 aren't good looking.
	There's a lot of women saying that.
	No, no, you're saying there's a lot of good women who work out to care themselves.
	I'm not saying that women are really good in their 30s.
	100%.
	And just a point of clarification: I'm not saying that, bear in mind that I've in recent history dated women.
	Some women who are older than me, I've dated women around my age range.
	A woman who's 30, 35, 40, even 45 can be very physically attractive.
	100%.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	But if you're making comparisons, like a woman who's 35, her at 25 is just more physically attractive.
	No, I would just go dating.
	I wouldn't say 25, 35, but I will say after 35, it could kind of get dicey.
	I know a lot of women that Gabriella Union.
	Anyone say she's like 50 and she likes it.
	Gabrielle Union.
	I know a lot of women that if you keep up with yourself, 25 and 35 is not going to be a make or break.
	But I guess, look, it's there.
	I think there's another component too, though.
	I think it, again, it does come back a little bit to baggage, trauma.
	You've had an extra 10 years of relationship trauma.
	If you're looking at this.
	Look, when she was sorry, let me just you before you became a Christian, you like from my perspective, you had sex with men.
	Now you're waiting until marriage.
	Like, girl in red dress.
	I'm 23.
	Wasn't good looking.
	Also, I don't know why Officer Tatum is getting hate when he's speaking truth.
	Young men are afraid to admit fault, and the red pill community make it worse because now they'd be thinking all women are bad, which is sad.
	Listen, you're a very attractive woman.
	I'm sure you're not going to have trouble finding a guy.
	However, look, it's just, we're having a conversation here when it comes to dating.
	I'm just trying to make the argument that, yes, it is the case.
	Maybe this is an uncomfortable truth.
	Don't shoot the messenger.
	Yes, men are attracted to physically to young women.
	This is what it is.
	But you are such an influential, like your show is so influential.
	You are very influential.
	And if you actually, and you don't even practice that, which is what we learned.
	Like, you said most of the women you've dated have been around your age.
	And I just think if more of that, I wish I was.
	I'm not suggesting that men exclusively date.
	I know you're not, but I think the perpetuation of that narrative, like even as making it, and I'm not asking, I'm not saying you should lie.
	I just think, I think it's great that you're sharing.
	Well, I think your points are incredible, Brandon.
	But I think also like the point, the fact that you're not simply sharing that you actually mainly date people around your age, like that's good because it can just be such a toxic narrative that like they only want.
	I mean, it can feel that way sometimes.
	Yeah, I get it.
	Probably overexaggerating.
	No, I get what the young dudes are experiencing on the rig.
	I watch these shows.
	I get it, man.
	I was in a dating world and I had my insecurities about dating women with too much baggage and older women and younger women.
	I had those insecurities, but when I matured, I realized that, man, that stuff will send you down a negative path.
	You really have to focus on individuality.
	Generally speaking, you're right, Brian.
	You're right.
	I mean, the general average woman is not as attractive as she was 10 years ago.
	The average woman probably got more baggage than she did 10 years ago.
	But if you are an individual looking for success in love, you have to be open-minded to meeting a woman and hearing her side of the story.
	And don't be a simp to the point where you're getting taken advantage of all the time.
	You don't have to go on dates all the time.
	Young men need to be focused on a career.
	I have a young man that's talking to me about dating some girls.
	He's in his 20s.
	I'm like, man, look, you should wait until you're 30.
	A pretty face won't take you far to be successful.
	It won't help you, you know?
	Right.
	Like, you say the girl is, and I'm not exclusively talking about you, but you say a girl in her 20s.
	Yeah, she's physically better, but some of them are psycho.
	Earlier, you said that pretty girls are psycho.
	Yeah, yeah, but at the same time, but we're looking at looks.
	So if you say, I'm only going to go on looks, and therefore they'll lead me down the path of younger women.
	A lot of these younger women are broken.
	They haven't dealt with their issues and their psycho.
	And a lot of really, really good-looking women have a lot of baggage and issues.
	So I think that just don't get caught up in it.
	That's all I'm saying.
	I think what you're saying is invaluable to say.
	And I think young men need to understand the climate that they live in.
	But just don't get caught up in demonizing women because if it was your daughter, how would you feel?
	If it was your mom and she's 45 years old and you're like, mama, you ain't never going to meet no man at 45.
	No man wants you.
	You can't have kids.
	It's like, I wouldn't tell my mama that.
	I'd be like, look, there's a man that wants you.
	There's a man that's in a position in his life that's a little different.
	He don't want kids.
	Sure.
	Do you mean, like, how would I feel if, like, I had a daughter and she was dating an older guy?
	Is that kind of like what you're saying?
	No, I'm saying, like, what I tell young men is what I want the young man to be to my daughter.
	So I wouldn't tell him to feel a certain way about a woman because I wouldn't want young men to think of my daughter like that if she went to college, got a degree.
	Yeah.
	I want to come back to this really quick.
	I know that they have to go.
	Last question for you guys.
	We have a four-hour drive.
	Last question.
	Oh, wait, hold on.
	Wait, this is.
	Okay.
	I'll try to get through this really quick.
	Stiffler, he's got to know.
	So we got to ask everybody, ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to 10.
	What do you rate yourself?
	What do you rate your looks on a scale of one to 10?
	I think I'm an eight.
	Okay.
	Nine, seven, eight, six, seven, thirteen.
	Thirteen.
	Eight.
	That's not even thirteen.
	I don't know why.
	Sure.
	So is it all about just physical stuff?
	Looks.
	Just looks.
	Looks.
	One to ten.
	Okay, so I would rate myself as a seven, but I was born with two uteruses, so I count it twice.
	And some days.
	Wait, two uteruses.
	Some days.
	Two vaginas, two?
	No, just two cervixes.
	If I had a husband, you could touch them both, kind of thing.
	Wait, if what?
	I said, I have two cervixes.
	If I had a husband, he could touch them both.
	Touch them both, which is basically when.
	Yeah, no, not two.
	Not two.
	No.
	So can you have like two babies at the same time?
	I can have their twins at the same time.
	Interesting.
	It's wild.
	That's kind of a good idea.
	You could take a feel to baseball team and stand by the 30s.
	Okay.
	Good to know.
	Good to know.
	Yeah.
	So double.
	So you're a third one.
	So she's 13.
	Because of the baby making thing?
	Because it's too double.
	Yeah.
	That's something.
	So she's worth 47.
	She has to basketball.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	And oh, okay.
	Since we talked about body count, just does should body count matter yes or no?
	No.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	No.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yes, it should count.
	Yes, it should.
	What's everyone's body count?
	I'd rather not say.
	Okay.
	Five.
	I'm not saying.
	Not saying.
	Range.
	Do you guys want to do a range like one to two?
	I think it's safe.
	I don't think anybody that I know is watching right now.
	I want to say over 50.
	More than 50?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Way under that.
	Way under 50?
	So 45?
	No.
	Okay.
	Under 10.
	I have a low to medium range by my standards.
	Seven?
	No.
	Oh.
	But.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	No.
	Yeah.
	Three.
	Less than my age.
	I'm just going to say that.
	So 23?
	Significantly less than my age.
	Well, because you're 24, so that leaves it up to interpretation.
	Multiply it by three.
	Okay, well, for all the body counts.
	Okay.
	I know you guys got to take off.
	If you guys got to take off, go for it.
	I do want to try to wrap up here really quick on the.
	If you guys want to stay, you're welcome, but I know you guys got it along that.
	Nice to meet you.
	It's so nice to meet you guys.
	Thank you.
	It's been fun.
	It was fun.
	Let's see.
	Just on, I mean, look, the whole age gap thing, I would just say, how dare a man be attracted to a woman at the height of her physical attractiveness?
	That's not what I'm saying.
	And fertility.
	And I'm not bitter.
	You're not.
	I'm not bitter.
	Maybe a little bit.
	No, I'm not bitter.
	I'm afraid.
	You're afraid?
	Yeah.
	That all the hot DC capital.
	Oh, legislative assistants?
	All the what are they called?
	The interns?
	No.
	Have you dated congressman?
	No.
	No?
	Nope.
	Senator?
	Nope.
	State senator?
	State senator.
	No.
	President?
	President?
	Would you date Donald Trump?
	No.
	It's not your type.
	Biden is more your sleepy Joe.
	No.
	No, I would not.
	Obama, like if he was single?
	Obama in his prime was there.
	I mean, that's a high-quality man.
	Wise it on me.
	Why is it on me?
	I would date JFK if he wasn't before he was married to Jackie.
	JFK?
	Okay.
	You'd probably end up getting clipped, though, if you were romantically involved with him.
	All right?
	I don't know.
	What do you mean by clipped?
	Oh, like clipped.
	Because he got assassinated?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	Jackie didn't.
	She was right with him in the car.
	Okay.
	I thought you'd want to be like one of the.
	No, I would never want to be a side chick.
	I would always want to be main character.
	You wouldn't be the side chick for JFK.
	Come on.
	Okay, yeah.
	You'd be the side chick.
	Let's be honest.
	You would definitely be the side chick.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't want to have.
	I mean, good thing I wasn't born in that time, so I don't have to have that tough decision.
	What's it called when companies it's on the tip of my tongue?
	When a company will hire somebody to advocate for them to politicians, it's just a lobbyist.
	Would you date lobbyists?
	Yes.
	As long as they're not for big sugar.
	You're not a fan of big sugar?
	I think sugar is a bad thing.
	What about tobacco?
	Would you date like a tobacco lobbyist?
	I would, yeah, yeah.
	Wow.
	You're a terrible.
	No, I'm kidding.
	I love tobacco.
	Okay, good times.
	Yeah.
	Would you date a lobbyist?
	What do you lobby for?
	I lobby for consultants or something?
	Technology and IT delivery services.
	Yeah.
	Sure, why not?
	Nice.
	Yeah.
	I'm seeing if we have any other notes here from you.
	I feel like we.
	I gotta say, yeah, I know, because the next sentence is.
	Okay.
	Well, you might be coming on Tuesday, right?
	You want me to.
	Okay, we'll pick it up on Tuesday then.
	Awful.
	The vulnerable thing, we can, should we hit on vulnerable really quick?
	You said it's good when guys show emotions, it's healthy.
	Oh, yeah, Brandon might have some really good points in this.
	I think, like, some I've heard it discussed that, like, girls don't like it when guys cry or anything like that.
	I think it shows, I think it shows, like, that you're in a healthy place because some things there are, like, are.
	If I just started crying right now, like, I know you probably, what the fuck?
	I did not mean to press that side up.
	That's how you do it.
	If I just started crying, you're probably like, because of the conversation we were having, you know, yeah.
	You want to know what I would think?
	I would, I'd think he's really stressed out.
	Maybe his neck hurts because I know you have a reoccurring.
	Yeah, I got some neck.
	Yeah.
	You should come to my church.
	You might get healing for it.
	We do healings.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I'm sorry, but I'm a man of God, but that's not how that works.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You don't have faith.
	No, it's just like if I don't, okay, whatever.
	I'm not going to get into that.
	I think that men should not show all of their emotions to women.
	Because women judge men very harshly on that.
	I would never cry in front of my wife.
	Really?
	I just wouldn't.
	What if your kid died?
	That's a different thing.
	I mean, I would try to, I would try not to cry in front of my wife if my kids are.
	To be like disappointed.
	No, yeah, I'm her foundation.
	I'm her strong point.
	I'll cry on my own.
	But if everything is going south, I want my wife to know I'm strong in that situation.
	And I can be.
	I don't have to cry.
	I can do that on another time.
	My wife is expecting me to be strong in these times.
	I thought about this.
	I heard a guy say this: is that when my father passes away, which everybody's parent is going to pass away.
	I'm not going to cry at his funeral.
	I don't want to cry at his funeral.
	I want my father to know that I'm strong enough to stand up and have this conversation.
	I've compartmentalized what has happened.
	I can do that on another time.
	At my father's funeral, I'm going to stand up and be strong for everybody in the building.
	And that's not a bad thing to do.
	You know, like, I don't want my wife to be afraid.
	Just say something tragic happens.
	So you don't think that she looks to me to be the stable person.
	What do you think about men thinking that women's emotions not matter?
	Women's emotions don't matter.
	Don't matter, yeah.
	I've heard it.
	Men say that?
	Yeah.
	I've heard it.
	I mean, what do you mean?
	Like, if you make an emotional decision, a man shouldn't acquiesce to your emotional decision.
	If you say, oh, I feel this way, oh, it doesn't matter how you feel.
	It does matter.
	I mean, women's instincts to have emotions is one of the greatest things that humanity can have.
	That's why you need both.
	You need somebody who's stable, logical, and you also need the emotional component.
	That's why God made Adam and Eve.
	That's why when you're married, the best situation for children is a mother and father.
	You do need the emotional component.
	Women have instincts that men don't have.
	And that emotionalism kind of attracts that.
	But you have to be careful to not being too overly emotional.
	So you think if you cry in front of your daughter?
	I wouldn't cry in front of anybody.
	So I asked.
	I mean, I will try not to cry in front of anybody.
	There's compulsion for me to cry at times.
	And I will not do it in front of people.
	Well, I, so I, you know, I had this moment with my dad, and it was this summer, and we were talking, and we each had like a glass of wine or whatever.
	But I was like sharing how it is hard being single and 29 and just feeling like you're like old and all that stuff.
	And yeah.
	And so I started crying and he and he actually started crying?
	Yeah.
	Sorry.
	She's crying for no reason.
	She has nothing to worry about.
	You're in a great position.
	Well, okay, well, well, anyways, so thank you.
	But and then I was crying and he like and then I look over and he is crying and he's like, this is, he's like, look at me.
	I'm a 65-year-old man.
	You're making a 65-year-old man cry.
	But it was like he saw my pain and really felt my pain because I was like, oh, he wants me to be happy.
	And in that, like, that spoke so much to me.
	Like, because I was like, ah, he cares about me so much.
	That might be a good idea.
	That's your father.
	I feel like if it was a boyfriend or a husband in that, I think it's because, I mean, obviously, there's a different relationship that you have with your father than it was at his father's film.
	So you think if a man shows his emotion, makes him less men?
	No, no, I just think men shouldn't do it.
	I don't think it make you less of a man if you your emotions like if, for instance, if something tragic happened and I was in the room with my wife and it caused me to start crying or something I'm not gonna be like, throw it out of the room, you gotta leave the room, you can't see me like this.
	It's just that I know when emotions happen to me and I refrain from exposing that emotion in front of people.
	You have never cried from a like a breakup or anything like that.
	Like in front of the girl, not from a breakup.
	Come on, I've never cried from a breakup.
	I've been upset about a break.
	I've never cried.
	No, men don't really.
	Men don't have that emotion to.
	I had them here crying in front of every.
	That's why you're not with them right now.
	I like, will watch them.
	What you cry once a year.
	You said you had men cry in front of you.
	That's why you're not with them.
	Sometimes I look up videos of, like army dads coming home and surprising their kids, just because I want to cry and then I'll watch it and I'll cry and I've teared up and cried over stuff like that.
	But I don't in front of those videos, or I don't do that in front of people.
	It's touching and wholesome.
	I don't think it's anything that evokes something.
	Let me just be clear.
	If a man, if a man, decides that that's what he wants to do in front of his woman, oh my god, then that's what they want to do.
	For for me, you suffer.
	I think you suffer in silence.
	That's what I think.
	And when I say suffer in silence, I don't mean have these negative thoughts in your mind and don't tell anybody.
	What I'm saying is that there are times where I'm emotionally stressed out about certain things and and I and I deal with them with my homies.
	I deal with them by myself.
	My wife does not need to be exposed to me breaking.
	Let me just, let me just just say, just say that, just say that uh, there's a.
	You know, you see what's happening out in Israel, do you see what's happening?
	you gotta hype me better than you see you see what's happening in Israel you see what's happening I do and in Israel there's a conflict and I'm not gonna get too deep into that but there's a conflict and people are having to make tough decisions men are gonna have to step up and make tough decisions if if the if the that happened in America and yeah I may feel fear may there be some there may be some emotions that I feel I cannot display that and your wife looks for you for protection I'm the one.
	Just imagine you going to war, you got the guy on the front line and he crying.
	Yeah.
	You're like, oh, wait a minute, dude.
	We're going to lose this?
	Like, like, my dudes, we would do SWAT hits, and some of the dudes, they were tough.
	They were hard around the edge, man.
	And you don't see them sweat.
	And it gives everybody encouragement to be like, man, that's a badass mother.
	Didn't that mean I need to be bad?
	But I will tell people, if you need to go and cry, do that stuff on the side.
	I'm not telling you to hold it in, but go do that on the side.
	I've cried in the car by myself.
	I've cried smoking cigars by myself.
	But you have cried.
	I cry.
	And I cry a lot.
	Because I had an exact camera.
	Well, that's what he told me.
	He lying.
	Everybody cries sometimes, man.
	I cry.
	You got to get that out your system, especially when I be praying and I'm getting deep.
	I get that out of my system so I can be strong for my wife and for a lot of other people.
	So it's nothing wrong with crying, bro.
	You just can't do that in front of your woman.
	You need to try not to do that in front of other people.
	Related to the dating thing is, if you're a guy and you do cry in front of your woman, your girlfriend, your wife, whatever, I think you'll probably get a little bit more leeway the longer you've been with her.
	But like the earlier on it is, I would say that a lot of women are going to lose attraction for you if you cry in front of them.
	Because women, weak men are viewed as unattractive.
	And you can make the argument that crying can be viewed as a weakness.
	And you look soft when you cry.
	Now, and the reality is, is that I'm sure some guys have had the experience of being vulnerable in front of a woman or to a woman.
	And she either used that information against him later on in the relationship or she just immediately lost some attraction to him.
	The breakup might not come immediately, but it's gonna start like, it's just women are attracted to strong men.
	Women are not attracted to weak men.
	And so if there's this, there's this thing, oh, guys should be emotional in front of women.
	Men should be vulnerable in front of women.
	It just, it's not the case.
	It doesn't, like, women will lose attraction for you.
	So that's, you want to know why men aren't vulnerable.
	It's because when we are, you lose attraction for us.
	Well, you haven't been vulnerable in front of me because you would feel very affirmed.
	That sounds, I can't say this word on YouTube, but that sounds like kind of that word that I can't say on YouTube.
	I can't.
	I would feel very affirmed.
	What would you, you'd hold me?
	No.
	No, no premarital snuggling, but or cuddling.
	But I don't know.
	I think it's not.
	I like, I think weak, when I think weak, I think like, you know, you're always sick all the time.
	You're telling me about that.
	And you're like, oh, work is always so hard.
	Which I totally get that your work is hard and your job is hard.
	But it's like, when it's always that, I think men should more focus on their positives of like, hey, I did this and it felt good.
	I don't know.
	That's just what I'm saying.
	That's true.
	Let me just add one thing.
	When it comes to men showing or displaying vulnerability, I think this is also can be evidenced by, for example, if a guy approaches you, would you prefer he approaches you in a confident manner?
	Or would you prefer if he, it's maybe not prefer isn't the right term.
	Which guy would you be more attracted to?
	What makes the PQ?
	Hold on.
	Wait, PQ, what's that?
	Pussy quiver.
	What the fuck?
	I have never heard of that.
	I've never heard of that.
	That is blasphemous.
	You need to repent.
	It's not too much.
	Christian woman, by the way.
	Pussy quivering.
	No.
	Wow.
	I'm going to.
	It's more mental than anything.
	I've never heard PQ.
	Really?
	Oh.
	Does he make the PQ?
	Yeah.
	Now I'm thinking of quivering pussy for some reason.
	I don't know.
	Oh, man.
	What does that even look like?
	Okay.
	So would you prefer a guy?
	Sorry, not prefer.
	Who would you be more?
	No, no, no, it's not.
	More attractive, receptive.
	Which do you think would be more attractive?
	A guy who approaches you and he's just totally confident.
	He's not being cocky.
	He's not being rude or anything.
	He's just really confident, maintaining good eye contact, just confident, right?
	Or a guy who approaches you and you can tell he's not being creepy or anything, but he's a little nervous.
	Maybe he's a little shaky.
	His eye contact really isn't on point.
	Which do you prefer?
	I mean, the confident.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So, how you can make the argument, though, that a guy who's stepping to you and he's maybe a bit nervous, a little shaky.
	Oh, it takes more courage.
	Well, what I'm trying to make is that's him in a vulnerable state.
	Yet most women are not going to be attracted to that guy, even though he's displaying a vulnerable, he's in a vulnerable state.
	So.
	Wow.
	I didn't see that one coming.
	All right.
	All right.
	All right, Brian.
	That was pretty good.
	Right.
	But so this women like men.
	I was thinking like seven.
	Women like men who are confident.
	And so that's a perfect example of a guy being vulnerable.
	So this whole trope of women liking men who are vulnerable is actually bullshit because if a man is vulnerable and he approaches you and he's a little nervous, you're like almost repulsed by it.
	You're like, oh, what the fuck?
	You want a confident guy to step to you correctly.
	I try to honor it.
	And even men who divulge their emotions and feelings to you, right?
	You're talking to a guy and he just comes straight out and say, I'm really, I really like you so much and you're so this, this, and that.
	And, you know, some women get repulsed by that.
	You're like, dang, this dude is just like doing too much too soon.
	And that's being vulnerable by telling the woman how you really feel.
	But sometimes women don't want to hear how you really feel.
	They kind of want you to be kind of mysterious.
	They want to feel like they're chasing you a little bit.
	And sometimes men become vulnerable because they're like, I can be myself to this woman.
	I'm going to tell her how I really feel.
	You know what?
	I think you're so beautiful.
	Like, I really want to be serious with you.
	And you're like, dang, that was like, it's only a second date and this guy's doing too much.
	You're so right.
	So you have to reserve.
	So as men, you have to kind of reserve that.
	That is true.
	I just feel like just.
	Julia getting some time.
	I just feel like there's just a time and place.
	And obviously, like, obviously when people, men have their own trauma.
	And I feel like obviously with your therapist or your psychologist or psychiatrist, it's a vulnerable, safe place.
	That's not your wife.
	That's not your partner.
	But I've seen couples when they do have breakthroughs and sometimes when they do cry.
	And it's not often, they're not like crying.
	The guy's crying all the time.
	And that's breaking down.
	That's really like a word I can't say on YouTube.
	No, wait, wait, just one second.
	And sometimes the wife sometimes needs to see that if like there was like something that a discrepancy or something or he broke down and actually because she hadn't seen emotion in such a long time.
	So, you know, in some of those times, it is nice to see the husband cry because she hadn't seen emotion in him.
	I'm just saying that sometimes it's okay to see emotion in a person.
	But there's nothing wrong with two people having a conversation about it, though.
	You know, like maybe as a man, you need to talk to your wife, like, hey, are you comfortable with this?
	Maybe.
	And just for me, I grew up a little harder than that.
	I grew up with doubt emotions like that.
	And men don't really show that emotion.
	I never had men that cried and stuff in front of me.
	You know, it just never happened.
	Football coach wasn't going to cry in front of you.
	You know, you know, when you're in the on the police department, dudes, man, you got to hold it together, man.
	They should tell us suffering silence.
	You know, you're getting smoked doing PT.
	Nobody wants to hear you cry.
	No, I am.
	You know, so, you know, so that's that's kind of how I feel.
	I don't think, I don't, I'm not saying it's perfect.
	I'm just saying for me, you reserve your emotions.
	I would, I want my son.
	I would rather my son, if he was an adult, come cry to me than for him to cry in front of his wife.
	Right.
	Interesting.
	No, and that's what I was just quick saying.
	Like, it's not like crying all the time.
	She just wanted sometimes to see that, like, something or something.
	Yeah.
	We ought to try to wrap up here.
	Let me do a couple of our last chats and then we're going to get out of here.
	We have, man, you guys got to be nice to the guests here.
	Okay.
	He's calling you a bona fide simp.
	You don't understand about female nature.
	No man should take advice from you.
	Do you have a response to Barrister Davis?
	Well, I'm married.
	I'm married.
	So if anybody should take any advice from me, and I'm not saying you got to listen to everything I say, but at least balance out the curb.
	You know, you listen to people that have something different to say to me, then listen to what I have to say and then try it out and see which one works.
	I would rather listen to a married man talk about being married than listen to a person who's single.
	That's me.
	True.
	I'm not saying the same thing.
	Don't listen to me, guys.
	I'm not saying don't listen.
	Like somebody telling me about how to become wealthy.
	Somebody telling me how to become wealthy and they're going to check the check.
	Who you think I would listen to?
	Probably the wealthy person than the person that's trying to create wealth.
	And I'm not saying anything about you, man.
	I think you're incredible.
	And I think there's a lot of men in your position because everybody's at different stages.
	And, you know, you go four years ago, I was single.
	So I'm not acting like I'm above the fray.
	But what I'm saying, be open-minded to hear from a person who's had those experiences and they have, and now I am married.
	I've been married for four years.
	And I have some of those experiences.
	I used to be here and now I'm here.
	So just be open-minded.
	I don't get mad if somebody call me a simp.
	It's irrelevant name-calling.
	I think the points are clear.
	Everybody has different opinions.
	Right.
	Don't use mine, man.
	Hey, if you marry using yours, then do yours.
	All right.
	We have a Monzip Ismail.
	Is it Mir 300?
	I don't know what is Mir What currency is this?
	Mir.
	Is it Mar?
	Myanmar?
	Maybe it's short for something.
	Can anybody in the chat tell me what that currency is?
	Can anybody in the chat tell me what currency that is?
	Okay.
	Myanmar.
	Myanmar.
	That's what I guess.
	What's a griffin?
	Myanmar.
	A griffin.
	Myanmar.
	All right, you can hide it.
	I'm 40, 5'5, nerdy type, but I'm glad.
	Now happily married.
	My wife works, but at the end of the day, helps in the household still.
	Three kids, one boy, two girls.
	Oh, she's younger.
	Oh, my decision is veto still.
	She can give option.
	But then again, I'm from Myanmar.
	Wait, my decision is veto still.
	I think he thinks he has veto power.
	So it's like whatever he says goes.
	Oh, like he's head of the household.
	Okay, I see.
	I see what he's saying.
	Okay.
	Well, thank you all the way from Myanmar.
	Wasn't there recently a coup there?
	I don't know.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Gorton's Fisherman.
	Thank you, man.
	Red, why are you so bitter?
	Yes, you bought into a lie.
	You're attractive, Christian.
	You're not even 30 yet.
	Yes, men generally like younger women for looks, but it's also attitude that matters.
	I'm 29, but women same age seem to have chips on their shoulders.
	They got a little chip.
	You don't see her.
	I've seen women.
	I cry every week.
	How could I have a chip on my shoulder?
	I mean, you seem pretty pleasant, but there are definitely women who are, as they get older, they get pretty fucking jaded.
	But the young lady that was sitting there, she said she's done with men and all men of crap.
	That sounds more bitter and jaded.
	The young lady that was.
	And she was 40, though.
	She was 40.
	She was 40.
	So kind of proving the point.
	That's probably why she feels that way.
	Swiss lioness with the CHF.
	Is this Swiss?
	Wait.
	CHF?
	What is CHF?
	Frank.
	CHF currency.
	Is that Swiss?
	Yeah.
	Oh, my God.
	Bro, two for two.
	Thank you, Brandon.
	I find it ridiculous how single people like Redhead Pearl shame girls because they are not virgins, not married.
	Yeah, Pearl is not married, childless, and not the virgin herself.
	I've had enough of the red pill virus.
	Greetings from Europe.
	Swiss lioness.
	Hey, there you have it.
	Yeah.
	I think it's just getting old.
	You know, like people that are single and incredibly single, and they say some of the most outlandish things.
	Like, I love Pearl.
	I was supposed to go on her show at some point.
	But sometimes she's just, she's going overboard.
	She's got some hot tapes.
	She said women shouldn't vote.
	I get it, but that's crazy to think women shouldn't vote.
	Yeah, I don't think she has a lot of facts to back up her claims.
	Yeah.
	I would like more.
	Did you see the one with Ethan and her?
	that interview that was kind of like i i think some people they get caught up in this movement and they fall down a rabbit hole i'm not saying that that's necessarily her all the time She says some good stuff, but she do say some crazy stuff.
	Like Fresh and Fit.
	I wish I could pull the clip on my phone what they told that young man earlier, and I just couldn't believe it.
	I think it's on my story on my Instagram.
	I can't believe that they would tell a young man to have a side check.
	It's crazy.
	Well, we've gone way over, so we have to wrap up now.
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	My bad, because today's Sunday.
	Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific, where we may have Julia.
	Yeah.
	You'll have me.
	We might have her back on so we can wrap up on some of the other topics.
	Let's see.
	And I'm going to, those of you on Twitch, I'm going to go have you guys raid LMGD right now.
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