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	Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
	Thank you, Flan Life, for the 20, by the way.
	Thank you.
	I'm Layla Jenner.
	I'm 20, and I'm a porn star.
	Okay.
	You're 20.
	Any relation to the Kardashians?
	Or is that just like you're made up?
	I'm not like the aesthetic, yeah.
	No, I mean like a genetic relation.
	Doesn't I look like a chimney?
	No, like a genetic relation.
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'm assuming that was the inspiration, though, for your name.
	No, for sure.
	You like it?
	Do I like the name?
	Yeah.
	I feel, I don't really feel strong one way or the other about the name.
	I don't dislike it or like it.
	I have no strong feelings one way or the other.
	But I think you like it, but it's okay.
	You don't have to tell me.
	Congratulations on your fake name.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	My name is Anai, and I am a student, and I do OnlyFans.
	Age?
	Oh, I'm 21.
	All right.
	Welcome back.
	Hi, I'm Kay.
	I'm 18, and I am a personal assistant, and I do OnlyFans.
	Okay.
	Her personal assistant.
	You're her personal assistant?
	Yes.
	How much does she pay you?
	That's not your business.
	Thank you.
	I don't talk about my financials.
	That's fine.
	What does she have you do?
	Like, do you go run and get coffee for her?
	No, I'll make her do that with me if that's the case.
	Wait, you're dictating the term?
	No, I'm like, let's go get coffee.
	Like, you know, I'm not going to be like, go get me a coffee.
	Yeah.
	That's what a personal assistant does.
	She does a lot more.
	She, like, sometimes, like, she drives me to all my shoots.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	A lot of times I have to go to a shoot and then go to a meeting right after, and it's like I have to wear a different outfit than what I was wearing in a porno.
	Oh yeah, I'll have to get her party outfits.
	I'll have to quite literally talk to some weird people, but it's how funny is amazing.
	Personal assistant, there you go.
	What about you?
	My name's Katie.
	I'm 23 and I work in marketing.
	All right, welcome.
	I'm Allison.
	I'm 24 and I do PR marketing for Jersey Shore Women's Center.
	That is so cool.
	I'm Rachel.
	I'm 25.
	I'm a yoga and fitness instructor and I also work in network marketing.
	I'm Billy Ray.
	I'm 25 and I support the patriarchy for a living.
	There you go.
	I'm Dan.
	I go by DM Dating on all socials.
	I am a dating expert and men's attraction coach.
	All right.
	Welcome, everybody.
	We're going to go around the table once more, and I do have a couple questions about your guys' careers, especially Billy there with the, you're the, what was it?
	I told you it was going to be a go.
	It was good.
	It was good.
	Support the patriarchy.
	Do you support the patriarchy?
	Is that part-time or full-time?
	Full-time.
	Like the real life camp.
	FTG, thank you for the 50.
	So we're going to go around the table once more.
	So what is your current relationship status?
	So are you single?
	Talking stage?
	Situation ship.
	Friends with benefits, relationship, married, in a polycule, sex cult.
	How long have you been in a harem even?
	How long have you been single?
	And what's, if you are single, and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Go ahead.
	Okay, so I have a husband.
	He's Mormon, but I'm dating Zirka.
	Talking to the mic.
	Oh, yeah, thank you.
	Okay, I have a husband.
	He's Mormon.
	He's great, but I'm dating Zirka.
	Okay, hold on just a sec here.
	So you, are you just trolling?
	I'm not trolling.
	So you are legally married to.
	It's honestly helpful because he's supportive.
	So he's like, have fun in your 20s, like type shit.
	She's not lying.
	No.
	He's actually really great.
	I wish he was.
	He was in Utah.
	I visited him.
	Where are you from?
	I'm originally from a small town in Texas.
	Okay.
	How did you meet the guy?
	What's the story with the Mormon guy?
	I met him in college.
	He was on a mission.
	Isn't that cute?
	What's he like?
	I met him in college.
	He was on a Mormon mission.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	How old is he?
	He's 21.
	He's 21.
	Okay.
	When did you guys get married?
	We got married.
	It wasn't a real marriage.
	It was like, we just signed it, because, like, so, okay, he's Mormon, and he wanted to be a bishop, but you have to be married before you become a bishop.
	So it was like for that.
	I'm calling bullshit on this story because.
	You can call it bullshit.
	You can get it.
	Look at her.
	I live with her.
	I'm the truth.
	It was like a baptized Mormon truth.
	But if you signed it, how is it not a real marriage?
	Well, it is legally, but we didn't have our wedding.
	We did sign the papers.
	Okay, but that's a real marriage.
	You don't need a wedding to have a.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Wait, did you have people don't agree?
	Did you have a marriage license from a courthouse?
	Yeah.
	And did you have a religious wedding ceremony too?
	Well, we got married in the temple.
	Okay, so you had the religious ceremony.
	Yeah.
	Why?
	But I just don't consider it marriage marriage for me until I have a real wedding.
	Nor do we.
	Why did you get married?
	Why?
	Because I love him and we're going to be married no matter what, but he needed it to become a bishop.
	So it's an arranged marriage for him.
	Yeah.
	I'm a helpless gal.
	And what do you get out of it?
	I love him.
	I do love him.
	What's the purpose of you being married to him?
	I can always get divorced.
	I signed a prenup.
	Like, it's not a big, you know, like, why not get married?
	This story is.
	It's like Vegas.
	So you're telling me, where did he meet you?
	This would be really normal in Vegas.
	This is not crazy.
	Yeah, he met me.
	No, no, no, no.
	He met me in my college town as a Mormon.
	Texas in California?
	Yeah, in Texas.
	I went to tech.
	Okay, so you're telling me a deeply religious Mormon man who wants to have a position in the church, who he's currently a bishop.
	And he's dating me, and I'm a porn star, and he's okay with that.
	I don't, I mean, her story's cute, but I don't buy it.
	That's fine.
	You can look it up.
	There's different things.
	I can look it up.
	Like, I've said this ever since I've ever started.
	Like, we've been together.
	If you go into the June archive of any of her socials, you'll see all of it.
	See what?
	Yeah, like you'll see everything she posted about it.
	You don't have to believe it.
	It's not crazy to be married.
	I'm not saying it's crazy.
	What's unbelievable in Texas?
	It's annoying.
	What's unbelievable about it?
	I think you just haven't met a Mormon with like maybe she wasn't a porn star yet.
	I know.
	I was a porn star when we met.
	He knows I'm fucked up, and so he's like, you know, like, let me live my journey.
	Okay, that's right.
	So he's like, let me use this girl and then drop her later.
	No, he wants to be married to me forever.
	I'm the one that's like, I can go fuck whoever I want, you know?
	Did you guys consummate the marriage?
	What do you mean?
	Was the marriage consummated?
	Oh my god, I'm so dumb.
	I don't know what that word means.
	You guys consume it.
	That checks out.
	We couldn't have sex until we didn't have sex until we got legally married.
	Okay, because you consummated the marriage.
	Yeah, but I would still fuck other people.
	Okay, so the fact that it was before.
	The fact that you got married before you started doing S work makes it a little bit more believable.
	However, me personally, I find it hard to believe that a deeply religious Mormon man could marry someone and then tolerate.
	What's like crazy to believe about it?
	That's like.
	Well, I just absurd.
	Have you never met someone that's like, have you never met someone that's like married and fucking someone else?
	Like, have you ever heard of cucks?
	We call that cheating.
	That's pretty haram, but like there's cucks and shit.
	That's probably in people's heads.
	But in my opinion, you can be with someone that's okay with cheating.
	Yeah, what you do for a living creates a lot of them, actually.
	Yeah.
	When you want to what you do for a living actually creates a lot of those guys.
	I was going to say that.
	It creates a lot of what?
	A lot of the cucks that she's talking about.
	Yeah.
	It does.
	I've had a lot of people.
	I think about that too.
	I'm like, well, you really enjoy watching me get fucked.
	Like, that's crazy.
	Yo, chat, hold on.
	Let's ask the chat.
	Chat, do you buy her story?
	One in the chat if you believe it.
	The chat that knows me from Zirka's stream will all comment and say that this is all true.
	One in the chat if you believe her story.
	Two in the chat if you think it's.
	Yes, isn't that Zirka's girl?
	Yes.
	Everyone from Zerka's Stream, tell them that I'm not lying.
	We don't deny that you're Zirka's girl.
	We are denying that.
	No, look, it's just because this is like a desert husband, right?
	I had to drive her to Utah.
	Like, it was so random.
	It was just absolutely random.
	Why hasn't he divorced you?
	You're sleeping with other men.
	Dude, he loves me.
	Have you never met someone that's in love with someone that's cheating on them?
	A lot of them.
	Just be okay with it.
	Yeah.
	I had to put people off my own.
	I feel like he would have been even more interesting to have on this.
	And he gets to fucking.
	Yeah, we should have this guy on.
	Yeah, why don't you bring guys on here?
	What are you talking about?
	Yeah, they're like, why don't you bring like different types of guys?
	I told you, I was like, you shouldn't, I want to invite my friends on here.
	Well, I'll tell you why I don't invite you.
	And I wanted Eric on here, too.
	Okay, I'll tell you about it.
	It was good.
	It was juicy, and you didn't want it.
	You ready?
	Okay.
	So, most guys, they claim that they, oh, if a girl says this, I'll be able to rebut her, and I'm going to own, I'm going to own, like, I'm a really good debater.
	I'm a really good arguer.
	I'm really entertaining.
	You should put me on your show.
	And we've accepted those guys to come be on the show.
	And they sit there and they don't say shit and they cower and they choke.
	Because it's one thing to be.
	Hold on, let me finish.
	It's one thing to be sitting behind your computer watching the stream like, oh yeah, I would say this when they say this and I'd be able to, but it's very different when you're live in person.
	We got lights, we got four cameras, you're sitting across from people who disagree with you.
	There's 3,000 people watching.
	People talk a real big game, but when it comes down to being on the show, a lot of people fucking choke, both men and women.
	You guys hear that?
	Men and Brian said.
	No, I've given so many guys a chance.
	Like, the first time a guy choked, I should have been like, unless the guy has a proven track record of public speaking or content creation, they cannot come on the show because almost, with the exception of very few guys, most of them choke.
	Would you say that?
	We've had on good guys.
	We've had, like, Chase is good.
	Adam 22 was good.
	I'm trying to.
	Adam 22 was good.
	Who else?
	But I mean, he's like a content creator.
	You're good.
	Would you say that girls are like more, I would outspoken or like, you know, like bring more to the table?
	Are you saying that they bring more to the table to your podcast?
	No, girls are less logical.
	No, you got better content off girls.
	We are wired.
	You get better content off girls.
	That's true.
	Because they're more emotional-based, not logical, like men.
	Yes.
	I've met some very emotional men.
	And that recently went viral on TikTok.
	I met a 25-year-old man trying the shit.
	No, men have emotions.
	They tend to suppress them because they come out pretty aggressively.
	That's why we shut down.
	And then you're like, why aren't you speaking up?
	Because if we spoke up, it would come out very angry.
	Men are more aggressive and angry when they express emotions.
	I'm insane.
	Yeah, but it doesn't come.
	But it doesn't come out in the form of anger.
	It comes out in the gasp.
	Mine has come out in the form of anger.
	No, but it comes out in the form of things like gaslighting.
	Gaslighting?
	You think I gaslighting?
	That's not real.
	No, every single girl.
	Men gaslighting.
	Gaslighting.
	Men gaslighting.
	Men gaslighting.
	This guy gaslighting.
	Like completely.
	I've been gaslit on this whole show.
	I've been gaslit by Brian.
	You're a gaslight.
	I gotta get it.
	Okay, so there is an actual, okay, I'm going to actually teach a little bit of a lesson here.
	Okay, there's a thing called the argument from intimidation.
	Do you know what that is?
	That's when people will look at you and be like, oh, don't be ridiculous.
	Or, no, you couldn't possibly believe that.
	This is what girls do all the time.
	Men do not do it nearly as much.
	If you're dealing with a guy who does that kind of thing, what he's doing is he's depending or he's relying on your own benevolence, your own kindness to not rebut him.
	Okay?
	This is what girls will do.
	They'll look at a guy, and because men have been told their entire lives, you're toxic, you're cruel, you're aggressive.
	Basically, men are told.
	I love that.
	Basically, men are told from the moment they're born, get on your knees and beg for forgiveness, you dirty, dirty man.
	That is what men are told.
	Exactly, we're told from the moment.
	The moment they are born.
	So when we do something and a girl feels like they're being attacked, when really we're just speaking our mind, talking about our feelings, you come back and you can't stand the fact that you might have pissed us off.
	So you go, I cannot believe that you would insinuate that you would do something.
	That's something that girls do.
	So many people.
	Girls do this, okay?
	This is not something guys do.
	Guys.
	Much more to the point, you did something that bothered me.
	Can you please apologize for what you did?
	That's what guys do.
	Girls just completely beat around the bush and they never, ever apologize.
	I've apologized, I apologize.
	I love apologizing.
	I'm always the first to apologize, starting out fiery.
	I've apologized before.
	I know when i'm wrong.
	I admit to my mistakes.
	That's how you grow as a person.
	Would you like to apologize to me right now?
	I feel deeply hurt by all the things.
	What did I done to me and said to me throughout the years?
	What I do, what I do we'll get into it later, just just on the whole thing, with no guys really quick.
	So what I would say?
	Also, in addition to just us having experience of men absolutely choking on the show, I would say most men have very oppressed excuse me, suppressed opinions about the current social dating climate, but they fear the shame and ridicule that would come if they chose hold on, let me finish if they chose to voice those opinions publicly agreed valid, so like, oh, thank you very much for the 50 memberships.
	Also, if I bring on one like blue-pilled guy, the girls will just desperately latch on to whatever he says and use his opinion to invalidate what I say on the panel, where i'm usually already like outnumbered.
	So why not just like a neutral dude, like one that's like neutral neutral, I know some.
	A neutral guy is gonna choke kids are not gonna say nothing.
	I know I need a guy who's like really strong.
	Oh, they're making good points on both sides.
	I told you I know a few guys that would be like issues.
	You say that, you say that, but I guarantee they show up.
	It's their first time ever doing something like.
	Bring Eric on too.
	They're gonna see Zero.
	He's gonna be so mental.
	Y'all are the same person.
	No, I don't know, we'll see.
	Um okay, so anyways um also just, men are on the losing side of the culture war, so men can't really truly be honest with their thoughts.
	It always gets met like.
	When it comes to like dating preferences, standards and boundaries, those things always typically get shamed.
	So he's a dating course, so okay, all right.
	We see Mike Davis donated 100.
	Bring it on, I don't get.
	What's so hard to believe this goofy try hard porno.
	Starfound deloti, Christian cyclist simp.
	Most Christians, especially those weirdo Mormons, are pretentious fakes.
	What's hard to believe?
	Thank you, this is Mike Davis.
	He's a simp like.
	Thank you, that's what i'm saying.
	Like you think that, like there's so many of my fans that would let me cheat on them every day?
	Like what's different about this guy?
	That's disgusting.
	But there's literal, like Mormon porn too?
	Yeah, that there is.
	There's Amish porn.
	You have a bunch of friends with benefits.
	That's what you have, but I love some of them.
	Again, it's nothing but friends with benefits.
	There's nothing but a bit like there's zero commitment.
	Yeah, how do you get fulfilled from this?
	I am wired so differently because I have so many like trauma crazy no, not trauma, i'm gonna take a guess crazy little things in my head and they just make me feel so loved.
	I'm gonna take a shot in the dark.
	Daddy issues.
	Yeah okay, saw that coming from a mile away.
	Divorce was there, divorce.
	There was so much multiple divorces.
	Yeah, I mean, but like You know what?
	I feel loved how I feel loved.
	If that's with too many dicks, like, so be it.
	Just because it's not, like, normal to you and, like, what you expect.
	It's okay.
	Other people are happy doing different things.
	We shouldn't shame it.
	You should all love each other.
	Some people get filled with love.
	I think we should shame things.
	What's wrong with that?
	Is that what you're saying?
	Bring shame back for sure.
	Like, for example, this is on a very low level, but we shamed cigarettes for years.
	It was disgusting if somebody smoked cigarettes.
	We socially ostracized it, and now nobody really smokes cigarettes.
	We should do the same with sex workers.
	What happened to the word?
	We shouldn't do like stripping cigarettes.
	No, no, no, we should do the same things to sex workers because they're destroying society.
	How is it hurting?
	How is it destroying society?
	Can I get a little bit of a deep relationship?
	Yeah, we're getting into this.
	Yeah, we can come back to it.
	We can come back to it.
	Wait, but let me say, I agree with you, but at the end of the day, they're still giving me money, so I'm still going to do it.
	But I mean, it's never going to go away.
	So you're going to have to go over money and sex.
	Yes.
	Fuck you.
	Money runs the world.
	You know what else pays really well?
	Murder for high school.
	I don't have sex at all.
	And I still make money.
	There are things that are objectively immoral.
	But I like sex.
	I'm not.
	I hate it.
	You're making money off of sex, though.
	It's the end of the day.
	It's an immoral way to make money.
	It's an immoral way.
	One at a time.
	One at a time, please.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Do you want to respond?
	Then we got to move on.
	You then you guys.
	My favorite thing is sex.
	I love sex.
	I love performing, and it makes me so happy.
	So when you, it's like, I'm not just doing it for money and sex.
	I'm doing it for what makes me the happiest in the fucking world, which is fucking sex.
	That's what makes you that happy.
	So what age did you find that out?
	I didn't lose my virginity until like 17.
	I feel like you found that out.
	I mean, I feel like I found that out when I started porn.
	I was doing OnlyFans and I was like, I fucking love performance.
	What else do you enjoy in life?
	I play video games.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Are you guys religious?
	No.
	I'm going to answer that very simply.
	No.
	Okay.
	Are you religious?
	I mean, we believe in God.
	We don't actively go to church.
	But you guys like, do you guys believe in like Jesus and like all that?
	Yes, we have a good relationship with God.
	Okay.
	Makes sense.
	So did you answer your relationship status?
	I did not.
	So wait, just to go back to you really quick, you're married to a Mormon bishop?
	Yes.
	And he's hot.
	And I'm dating Zirka.
	Wait, he's what?
	He's hot.
	The Mormon guy?
	They're all hot.
	Yeah, I love him.
	Do you still hook up with him?
	Yeah, not that much, but yeah, we do a lot of anal.
	What?
	Oh, this is.
	I'm calling bullshit.
	I'm calling bullshit on that whole thing.
	Do you know that Mormons can only do anal before marriage?
	That's not, I'm not a Mormon, but that's not true.
	That's true, that's true.
	Look it up right now.
	Look up on your phone.
	Like a lot of people.
	Look it up right now.
	It's like a soaking thing.
	It's a trope.
	Yeah, they're all real things, but it's still six hours.
	People's religion.
	That's what they're doing.
	Yeah, that takes a while.
	Okay, and you're currently dating John Zirka.
	Yes.
	Hold on, just a second.
	Defenderly offended in 1899.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Dan, I mean no disrespect, but you look like you have resting P1's face.
	He's Dan.
	Yeah, when I'm talking about this stuff, definitely.
	He's got a resting Ryan Reynolds face.
	And Heath Ledger.
	Yeah.
	Combined.
	Yeah, I don't know if you're doing it.
	Okay, so you're dating John Zirka.
	Are you guys, well, you're not loyal, right, to him?
	I'm honestly pretty loyal right now, actually.
	No, you do porn.
	No, I haven't been shooting lately.
	Like, for the past, like, since I've been with him, been with him for like a few weeks.
	So you're on a good streak of loyalty.
	It's a few weeks.
	Yeah.
	Setting a career high here.
	When he goes to Miami, I'll probably go back, and then he'll come back, and I'll get back with him.
	Okay.
	So you guys will break up for a little bit and then you'll.
	I'm going to say break up.
	Like, just do your thing.
	I'm doing my thing.
	Come back.
	Be myself.
	Right.
	Like, don't date and then go date other people and then come back.
	Publicity.
	I like fucking him and then having time to fuck the other guys.
	You like fucking a lot of guys.
	Yeah, I do.
	Right.
	So, in other words, you don't have a boyfriend?
	I have a few.
	No, you don't.
	But you have a lot of boys.
	She's a husband.
	She's a whole husband.
	You have multiple guys.
	I have multiple relationships.
	How many are we talking here?
	Two.
	Well, and then there's people I fuck, but.
	For work or for work.
	For fun.
	Usually for work.
	Yeah.
	Like her Uber driver over here.
	No, I think she drove you right now.
	Yeah, she drove you.
	Your personal assistant drove you.
	Wait, okay, hold on.
	Oh, my tongue hurts.
	Thank you.
	Do you want a Toms or some shoot?
	No, it's a few.
	Nick, toss her a Toms.
	Okay, just kidding.
	I'm okay.
	I don't need one.
	Okay, so you have two boyfriends.
	Well, you have one husband and a boyfriend who's John Zerka.
	Yeah, you want to meet him?
	What?
	Now?
	Sure.
	Is he downstairs?
	Okay.
	In my pocket.
	So, let's see.
	Do you have any other guys that you're seeing not related to work?
	How am I supposed to, like, think?
	Like, probably.
	Would be helpful?
	There's a couple.
	A couple?
	Like, sometimes, yeah.
	Like, you know, like, whenever.
	I don't think so.
	Is Zirka only seeing you, or does he have other women too?
	I'm not fucking other people besides him right now.
	For right now.
	But it's not going to be long right now.
	It's your...
	Hold on.
	So, you're not fucking him for the time being.
	Yeah.
	But you're going to continue seeing him, but then you're going to fuck other men.
	No, it's a little different because he's going to go back to Miami soon, and then I'm going to be, like, fucking whoever I want to fuck.
	And when he comes back, I'll probably be like.
	Isn't he in Miami?
	He was just in Florida, what?
	No, not too many.
	Two days ago.
	Not yet.
	No, he was in Miami.
	Is he in Miami already?
	You don't even- Bro, this chick's so full of shit.
	Okay.
	Do you want me to call him right now?
	No, he was on the FNF podcast.
	I mean, I don't like suck his every move.
	Every what?
	I don't like suck his every move.
	That was a 40 minute.
	I mean, your boyfriend.
	Is he your boyfriend?
	Yeah.
	You don't know if your boyfriend is.
	Unless he's in Miami, then no.
	Okay, so he's not here, so I assume you're going to be with other.
	There's this other little guy I'm fucking with, but I don't want to.
	I almost fucking guarantee you, like, she, I don't know if it was today or some other day.
	She was on the phone with Zirka.
	Hey, John, I'm going to be on the whatever podcast.
	How can I get the most attention while I'm on the whatever podcast?
	He doesn't even know what you're saying.
	Let me just say all this bullshit.
	You want to say this in a bullshit?
	I can show you clips of everything.
	This is all true.
	Like, I don't know why you think having a relationship that's crazy in LA is not weird.
	It's just like you're pretty much.
	It's a weird city.
	It feels a little pre-planned.
	I mean, maybe it's because I stream a lot and I'm used to talking, but like, that might be the only reason you think that.
	I have to say, I do believe she has a husband.
	Thank you.
	Okay, fine, fine.
	I feel like it's such a weird story that you know, and people say, I can call up anyone right now and be like, tell them, like, I have a husband.
	I mean, people think it's weird.
	People think it's weird, but they're more like, oh, huh, cool.
	Like, holy balls, what do you mean?
	It sounds like a South Park episode, but I believe her.
	Thank you.
	It's not like weird to believe.
	Also, I'll just take your word for it.
	I'll just take your word for it.
	They help a lot.
	So is John Zerka just seeing you?
	Not if he's in Miami.
	He's being in Miami.
	Wait, John Zerka has a dating course?
	Yeah, he does.
	That's why he actually goes to the house.
	Isn't he like a thing?
	He claims to be very Christian.
	He is.
	He's Catholic.
	Okay.
	I get a lot of money off of that dating course.
	And he has a dating course, right?
	The dating course teaches.
	Does it teach men to maybe like women?
	Hold on.
	It teaches men how to get women who are involved in sex work and who do porn and won't be loyal to you?
	No.
	That sounds like a lot of guys do that.
	He preaches that that's not really what he wants, and he would rather have to do that.
	That's what he has to do.
	He'd rather have some third world country girl that's a virgin.
	Then why is he involved with you?
	Because you want him to go to fucking some third world country and get a girl like he's here in L.A. There's plenty of girls in LA that don't do porn.
	You might as well have someone that's fucking good.
	Do you take pride in that?
	Yeah, I do.
	Do you think men feel really good about themselves when they fuck a girl like you?
	I make them feel good.
	Okay, it's gangsta.
	I think I make them feel so good that they're like, all that pride just goes out the window.
	No, they like things that are earned.
	No, I make them.
	I usually, I don't even fuck guys the first night.
	Like, I like try to pretend I wait.
	Like, you know.
	Pretend to wait.
	It makes them, like, I feel like, feel more like Nina.
	And we wonder why the sexual market value is so low.
	Why do you guys make sex so taboo?
	I know.
	It's not a taboo.
	It's not taboo.
	You guys are yangs.
	It's not taboo.
	We have sex, okay?
	Yeah, but you guys have to.
	We do have anything against sex.
	What we do have something against is something where girls like you and you, I have no idea how much porn you do.
	I know you have an OnlyFans.
	You think I do porn?
	Porn is so different than OnlyFans.
	Curtis Reynolds is $200.
	Unfucking believable.
	SMFH 304.
	Thank you, Curtis Reynolds.
	This show is pretty wild.
	Go ahead.
	Do you guys think that there's a problem with hookup culture?
	Yes.
	No.
	Okay.
	They do.
	Do whatever you want.
	Yeah.
	I still want to answer the question that we haven't got about.
	But do I think there's a problem with it?
	I don't know.
	I guess that depends on what you're referring to.
	Do you think that people are referring to?
	No.
	Thank you, TGG.
	Thank you, FTG, for the gift of mental health.
	Whatever that is.
	Who do you think is to blame for the existence of hookup culture?
	Men or women?
	Men.
	It's a two-sided thing.
	I just against the hook.
	Who controls the access to sex?
	Women, you open your legs.
	Right.
	So who's to blame?
	The women.
	Men.
	The women.
	But the men also has the intention to do it, so it's a two-sided thing.
	It's two-lane road.
	Men are pursuing sex are going to act in a way, they're going to act in accordance to achieve sex.
	That is correct.
	But we are all in a certain way.
	All that says is there are women out there who will just give it up for nothing.
	Some women can't escape the mindset that we were all hardwired in, that we should be giving a lot and receiving a lot and be treated like this.
	But it's up to the woman or the man to break that mindset.
	Are you going to get shit done for yourself or not?
	Are you going to be a sexy person?
	Yeah, but not through sex work.
	Yeah, through giving up my pussy on camera.
	Exactly.
	You don't have to find a name like that.
	You don't have to make your entire relationship around sex.
	But if some people choose to do so, then they choose to do so.
	And that's what makes them happy.
	That really does.
	And I'm not a sexual person at all, and she knows that.
	Like, I'm not going to hate on her for that.
	Or disagree with her because it's not really something to disagree with.
	It's just her life.
	That's how she lives it.
	And you got to get over it, buddy.
	You don't like murdering people.
	We're over doing sex here.
	We heard about it.
	Don't be hurt about it.
	No, no, no, no.
	She's free to do it.
	What I'm saying is that it's absolutely catastrophic for society if that gets normalized.
	But I feel like shame it in the privacy of your own home.
	You said it shouldn't be normalized?
	It should not be normalized, but it should not be shamed in a way of making people feel bad.
	Why?
	Because he's also voicing his opinion.
	If it shouldn't be normalized, then why shouldn't we be shaming it?
	How do things get?
	I don't think you should be doing this.
	That's not shaming.
	You could be like, oh, you doing all this is disgusting.
	I think it's ruining society.
	Or you can say, I just don't think it's good for everybody to do.
	Saying it's ruined.
	But I don't.
	I think it's catastrophic for society.
	Sex work is the oldest profession.
	It's literally in the Bible.
	Like, it's the oldest profession.
	Sex work will always look patriarchy straight in the eye.
	What?
	Okay, there's definitely older professions than sex work.
	And like, it's one of the oldest and most demanding.
	It's the most demanding.
	One of the most demanding.
	Barrier to entry to become a sex worker.
	What is it?
	Huh?
	Be a woman, open your legs.
	That's what you need to do.
	I feel like how it is.
	What?
	What do you want me to do?
	How do you want me to do that?
	No, you said it's one of the most demanding.
	Yeah, it is.
	It's demanding?
	How is it demanding?
	Everybody wants sex.
	Some people can't get it.
	Some people.
	It's main demand.
	It's not a demanding voice.
	People are in unhappy marriages, so they go to like massage parlors or to like places showing.
	I know, but it's not a problem.
	It's normal.
	It happens.
	You wouldn't call that a marriage.
	No, it's not.
	They shouldn't be in the marriage.
	I think what you're hearing from you is that there's more female sex workers than there are male, and that's why you're saying it's demanding.
	It's very hard for a man to get into sex work.
	Wait, then I had to do that.
	You watched porn.
	That there's more females in sex work.
	Yeah, than there are males.
	How does that like?
	So it's more demanding for females.
	I don't know that concept.
	What do you mean?
	How did I make that connection?
	How did you get her saying there's more females in sex work?
	No, I think that's what she's getting at.
	How did you demand for females?
	How'd you get that to the moment?
	No, I said sex is demanding.
	Oh, people look for sex.
	Okay, so what's your question?
	Sex sells.
	Hold on, let her.
	Go ahead.
	What's your question for you?
	Sorry, I don't remember your name.
	Anai.
	Anai.
	That there's more, you can agree there's more female sex workers than they're definitely oversaturated.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	That's what I'm clarifying.
	You want her.
	Okay.
	Did you had a question for him?
	Then we have to keep things moving.
	Yeah, so you said you've watched porn.
	So it's obviously demanded somewhere in anyone's life.
	It's out there.
	It's demanded.
	She said it's demanding.
	Sorry, I meant demanded.
	It's demanding you when you watch it.
	Sorry.
	I mean, demanding and demanded.
	You demanded it because, I mean, at the time you were demanding it.
	So, well, I don't know.
	Okay, let's not go into an economic discussion.
	Moving on.
	Okay.
	Bangs, what's your relationship situation?
	Single, so how long have you been single?
	I've been single for two years now.
	I'm not talking to anybody.
	Nobody?
	I have my eye on somebody, but it's not really talking.
	What do you explain that?
	What do you mean?
	I don't want to.
	You might see this.
	What do you mean you have your eyes on somebody?
	Are you talking to him?
	Yeah, occasionally I do talk to him, but it's like more of a crush that I have.
	And I haven't had a crush in a while, so it's exciting.
	No, yeah, I think they might have a crush on me, too.
	They?
	Him.
	Sorry, I say they a lot.
	I'm not sure if it was like non-violent.
	No, I say they a lot.
	Sorry.
	Okay.
	Longest relationship?
	A year.
	One year.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	I haven't dated in about two years, like an actual relationship, but I was also under the age of 18 at the time, so I don't count that.
	So.
	Right, because you're 18.
	Yeah.
	So you've been single for two years.
	But come on, there's a guy.
	There's a guy in the picture.
	I was living with him, and so yeah, it was a two-year relationship.
	But okay, but that ended two years ago.
	Yeah, it was bad.
	You were living with him from 14 to 16?
	I graduated at 16, yes.
	Okay.
	You weren't living with your parents?
	No, I was not.
	I was living with her, actually.
	Okay.
	Well, so you've been single, though, for two years, but let's talk about right now.
	There's no guy in the picture.
	There is a guy in the picture.
	Is there more than one in the picture?
	No, I do not do that.
	One singular?
	I don't play men like that.
	It's not in my heart to do that.
	I mean, people make money with things.
	Wait, okay, so hold on.
	I can swear by it.
	I do not bring men over.
	And I actually did end up bringing one over.
	And I'm not going to play him after that.
	That's my peace place.
	I don't ruin that.
	Peace place?
	Like, my house.
	Our apartment is a peace place.
	Why would I like it?
	Why is it a peace place?
	Okay, I thought you were talking the guy was a peace place.
	Oh, no.
	He's really nice.
	Side piece or something.
	Oh, never that.
	So you're kind of sort of seeing one guy right now.
	Yes.
	How long have you sort of been not sort of seeing him, but seeing him?
	Really not that long.
	Like a few weeks, and that's about it.
	A couple weeks?
	Yeah, but I've known him for like a couple months.
	I just don't fill my void of loneliness with men.
	Fill it with food and money.
	Food and money.
	That's it.
	Okay.
	Do you want a long-term thing with this one guy?
	Yeah.
	Definitely.
	Okay.
	Does he want the same?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But you're single.
	You said you're single.
	Yeah, I don't.
	I mean, once you say you're dating, like, then I'm not single.
	Talking really isn't.
	So you could.
	I have every right.
	My grandma always told me, never stay with one man until you are dating the one person you want to be with.
	You can talk to as many people as you want until you find the right person.
	Erroneous!
	Erroneous!
	You can, but.
	My grandma's a teacher at a Christian private school.
	She was my teacher.
	That's haram.
	Okay, so you can, but like, do you think that leads to good relationships if just before you, let's say the day before you have the conversation with the guy that you want to be in a relationship with, you fucked another dude?
	Oh, I don't fuck them.
	I'm not, like, acted like that.
	I mean, I can talk, I can flirt to another man or like flirt with another man, but I don't.
	I choose not to.
	But if I feel as if this man is not worth my time, I can see if there's another guy.
	I feel like you just keep your options open.
	Yeah.
	You keep your options open.
	You don't want to end, like, I don't ever want to end up in a relationship like I don't even know what that means, man.
	You don't want to end up in a relationship like who was?
	Like, I was two years ago.
	It was not something that I should have been in ever.
	And so I didn't keep my options open.
	What does it mean to keep your options open?
	Like, you have, like, obviously if a bunch of people like you, you're going to, um, not everyone is going to stay with me.
	I sleep with all of them.
	Yeah, I'm not going to sleep with all of them, but if they text me, I might text back.
	You'll hang out with them?
	No.
	I don't hang out with anybody at all, except for, like, her and that one man.
	Like, I don't leave the apartment.
	I work from home.
	Okay.
	So there's not really any reason for me to hang out with men.
	Okay.
	Well, perhaps that's the case for you, but there's definitely women who keep their options open.
	I used to be like that.
	Hold on, let me finish.
	And they're going on multiple dates a week with different people.
	They're sleeping with multiple men at the same time, and then two months in, they finally decide, okay, this is the guy I want.
	And the entire time they've been seeing that guy, they're fucking other dudes, talking to other dudes.
	I don't think it particularly leads to good, healthy relationships.
	Well, I'm personally scared of STDs.
	If I ever contract one, I may go ballistic.
	That's awful.
	But if other women want to do that and ruin their mental health, they can go right ahead.
	But mental is everything for me.
	And if I decide to let a man get or because no one can make you feel any type of way, you allow people to make you feel a type of way.
	So if I were to allow a man or a man to ever make me feel any less than what I've made myself be, then that's where I know I've like fucked up bad.
	Okay.
	That's not how your life should be.
	You shouldn't revolve your life around someone else.
	So you stay loyal to one man and you try to hold your body for that one man for the sake of your mental health.
	Yeah.
	And yet you're a personal assistant for a porn star?
	Well, I'm not fucking everyone she's working with.
	I'm not going into a shoot.
	We do.
	Are you thinking you'll ever venture into that world?
	No.
	I don't, I will not even allow a man onto my OnlyFans.
	Do you do OF, though?
	I do.
	You do do OF, okay.
	I do.
	What kind of content do you do online?
	Lingerie and BG, any boy-girl content?
	No, I do not have men on my OnlyFans content.
	No.
	It's just all me.
	Anai, what about you?
	Are you BG, girl, girl, solo?
	Yeah, I just shoot whatever by myself.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Oh, no, I don't feel as exciting, but I am in a three-year relationship, and we're very healthy, I feel like, and happy.
	Three-year relationship?
	That's good.
	You said you're 23, right?
	I'm 23, yeah.
	Did you guys meet in college?
	It was kind of like a weird situation because I was like, I'm going to be single in college.
	Like, I'm not going to do that.
	Nick, I'm going to go to the next one.
	And then I was like, oh, COVID happened.
	So I had to go back home and I was like really bummed.
	And then he lived in my hometown.
	We went to high school together, but we didn't really like talk.
	And he was like, hey.
	And I was like, I'm not getting into a relationship.
	And he made quite the effort to visit me when I came back to college and eventually moved here.
	So, yeah.
	Gotcha.
	And while she was talking about this, you kind of, it seemed like you almost echoed a little bit what she said of, yeah, keep your options open.
	So before you got into your three-year relationship with your now boyfriend, were you keeping your options open during the early stages of when you started dating him?
	Absolutely not.
	Like the second we started talking, we both like didn't like entertain anybody else.
	So I'm not practicing what I preach.
	But I do get like keeping your options open is in like dating around.
	Like try something new, like try this person, try this person, like see what you like because I don't know.
	I feel like that's your time, your early 20s to like, I'm talking about like date around.
	But once we started talking, it was just like him in the picture.
	That's awesome.
	Like wrong person or like right person wrong time kind of thing.
	No, but that's what we do.
	Yeah, right, but that's why we keep our options open.
	Because in case it's like, okay, this isn't going to work right now.
	Yeah, I wasn't keeping my options open like with him because I was like, okay, yeah, like this is it.
	But before him, I was like, okay, maybe this is my type.
	Maybe this is my type.
	I'll go on this date even though I don't know if I'm going to like this person.
	You know, just date and figure out what you like.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Actually, on that note, so you said you'll go on a date, but you might not be super set on the guy.
	Yeah, like honestly, even like my boyfriend now, like I tell him too, I was like, you honestly weren't my regular type.
	And he ended up being like my soulmate in my eyes because I was into like douchebags before him.
	So it's like, I would not have given him a chance, but I was like, oh, he's nice, he's funny.
	And then I was like, oh, shoot, like, I just took a chance on a good guy, even though that wasn't my type before.
	FTG 8050.
	I'd say guys with like huge egos.
	Oh, yeah.
	And he's a very like humble person.
	Wait, okay.
	Huge egos.
	Yeah, like that's, like, that was my type before him.
	Like, fuck boys, huge egos, like, not good intentions.
	And then my boyfriend now is very, like, humble, amazing, intense.
	Question for you.
	So, and you say your boyfriend now, he's a good guy, nice guy, good guy.
	He's not like, you know how some people say, oh, he's a nice guy.
	And like, it's kind of like a turnoff.
	Like, he's not that.
	He's just genuinely a good person and he has great intentions.
	So, question.
	Before you finally found your soulmate, this guy who you say is a good guy, who you've been in a three-year relationship with, how many of the jerks, assholes, and fuckboys did you have to go through before you gave him a shot?
	Honestly, I'd say quite a lot, like in that time span.
	And that's why I kind of like nodded when, is it Brandon?
	I'm so sorry.
	Dan.
	Dan the man.
	Sorry.
	He was like, is hookup culture toxic?
	And I like nodded immediately because it was toxic.
	It was so bad for my mental health.
	The guys were terrible, you know?
	And it's refreshing not to have that anymore.
	But why do you think you were attracted to them?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I think part of it was like validation.
	Like, I think I was a lot more insecure.
	And I was also young.
	I lost my virginity at 16.
	So I was young.
	I think I need a lot of validation.
	And that's why I went for men like that.
	At least that's how I perceive it.
	But aren't those the types of guys to not give validation?
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	But it doesn't make any sense, though.
	You said you need a lot of validation though.
	Yeah, I was looking for validation by like sleeping with them and stuff.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	You wanted them because a lot of girls wanted them.
	You also wanted them because they weren't nice.
	Probably, yeah.
	They had authority.
	They were hyper-masculine.
	And like, I think about something really, really simple.
	Why is it that every single dude, for the most part, that gets girls today seems to have a type fade and a tattoo?
	Because that's what the tattoo is going to be.
	Because that's what every fucking girl goes for.
	Every single one.
	Remember when I said, you're all the same?
	You all want the exact same thing.
	You want a man of authority, right?
	Men in uniform.
	This is a big thing.
	I'm sure you shoot a lot of scenes with them.
	And you get just a constant, constant chase of this leader, this masculine guy who has a masculine frame, who isn't chasing you all the time, who you can't control, who has these like beats, like, he's like a beast that you have to tame.
	It's literally beauty and the beast.
	That's what women actually desire.
	You don't want a nice guy.
	You need someone who isn't going to give you attention all the time because you need to long for them.
	You need to miss them, right?
	Like this guy, you said that you knew him during your time in high school.
	So we didn't talk.
	We were just, I always saw him like we went to elementary school even and we just did not like pay attention to each other.
	And then you said you were, then you said that when you went off to school, you were texting for periods of time, but then he would make the effort to come see you, right?
	So he texted me while I was in school and I kind of like ignored it.
	And then I went back home and he reached out again and I was like, I'll give this a shot.
	And then I was like, I can't do long distance.
	Like I don't, I don't know.
	I like you, but I can't get into a relationship.
	And he came every single weekend and we live four hours away to like make it a point to be there and make it work.
	And I'm not sure what to do with that.
	So there was a pattern interruption.
	You had a week where you didn't see him and then a day or two where you had a great time.
	Then a week where you didn't see him and then a day or two of having a great time.
	This is the same exact dopamine cycle as when you're like, I wonder if they're going to text me.
	Or like, I actually saw a great clip from a guy named Andrew Huberman.
	I have no idea if you guys have seen his stuff before.
	There are actual cultures around the world where they have laws, basically tribal laws, where you're not allowed to touch your spouse for two weeks out of the month.
	What that does is it creates excitement.
	It maintains attraction and they have extremely long-standing long-term relationships.
	I was like, I could, I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I was going to say I see how that works because like when we first started dating, we were like rabbits, like literally having sex like rabbits.
	And now even though we live together for the first time, it's like we don't have sex every night.
	You know, we pace it out a little bit and it does still like build that anticipation three years in.
	Wait, is it you got a dead bedroom?
	Is it the dead bedroom?
	What?
	Dead bedroom.
	That's like there's no sex.
	No, we don't do that.
	We just like skip a day.
	You know what I mean?
	We just pace it out.
	Not every day.
	I can get it still builds excitement and anticipation.
	Just skipping a couple days, even though I don't want to harbor on it too long because I know we got to keep it going.
	But the whole point is the reason why it worked out with him, the reason why he's a genuinely good guy who you ended up falling in love with is because he wasn't, if you were just at home with him all the time, given who your type was, it probably wouldn't have worked out.
	But it was good to occasionally talk to him and then see him over short stints.
	That's actually the formula for being successful in the dating market.
	This is why the whole like, wait a few days to text, that's kind of shitty advice because there's actually an art to doing this the right way, these pattern interruptions to build attraction with people.
	It doesn't just happen, but that's the reason why it worked.
	That's the reason why you were able to escape your type.
	And I would say I honestly agree with that too because I liked the chase.
	So, you know, it was a healthy way of still getting that.
	You guys are all the same.
	Seven Deadly Simps donated $100.
	I am tired of seeing all these beautiful women on the Whatever Podcast.
	Thanks for changing things up with tonight's show, Brian.
	Okay.
	My sprinkler goes like this.
	Seven.
	777 decillion, 777 no million 777.
	Thank you, 777 septillion, 777 sex.
	Tillion, 777 quintillion, 777 trillion, 777 trillion, 777.
	I had one question.
	7,777,777,700.
	Yeah, we're close.
	All right, thank you.
	Thank you there.
	You said that prior to your current boyfriend, there was quite a few fuckboys, jerks, whatever, assholes, whatever.
	What are we talking here?
	What are we talking?
	Like a baker's dozen?
	What are we talking?
	And like, too much, like, for, I don't know, too much.
	Like, when I look at myself then, I'm like, why?
	You know what I mean?
	Like, I'm like, little Katie, like, you need to stop.
	Like, enough to where I'm like, you didn't have to do that.
	Yeah.
	But not like.
	Did you go to UCSB?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	But I started dating Jared my first year of college.
	So I've been in a relationship most of my college career.
	Important question.
	You know how you talked about you believe in keeping your options open?
	Yes.
	If you're thinking back on that being like, oh, why?
	Why did I do that?
	Why are you encouraging girls to keep their options open the same way you did?
	Well, when I say keep options open, I mean like going on dates, like very wholesome things.
	Like go on a date with this guy, even if you don't know, you know, like see what you like.
	I don't mean like, sorry, I don't know if I could say that.
	I don't mean like have sex with everybody I meet.
	I just mean like dating around.
	That's what I mean.
	Okay.
	Like on a very wholesome casual level.
	This is just like figuring out what kind of personality you like.
	What kind of thing?
	That's kind of why men are afraid to now like pay on dates or even take girls on dates because the girls aren't serious about it.
	They're just dating around.
	I don't know why they feel obligated to pay though because you guys would be repulsed if you're not.
	No, am I?
	I really don't know.
	What way would you guys go about it?
	Like I don't necessarily 100% agree with the dating around, but like getting to know people, figuring out what you like, what kind of personality do you like.
	Yeah, I mean I want to say the same political views.
	Does that all like come into play for you guys?
	And that's what I'm trying to get across.
	Yeah, I mean I would say don't expect a nice dinner.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	I don't really go on dinners when I like, even like with the few guys I've been interested with, I've never been like, oh like let's go out to eat because I get so shy to like eat in front of a guy, even though I know I shouldn't, but I just feel like I look ugly.
	And I personally wouldn't even be comfortable with that if someone wanted to like spend a bunch of money on me and I'm like, this is our first date.
	I don't even like know you.
	It'd be like better not to do that.
	It makes even a lot of them.
	It's almost like awkward.
	Like I'd rather like sit down with them or like even in a car just like talk to them, hang out, see a pretty view.
	I've done that a few times.
	I feel as if when they pay big amounts on the first date, it makes me feel obligated to stay with them and I hate that.
	Especially with like family having like issues in the past with that happening like people Indian giving saying, oh, well, I got you this though.
	So okay, and you decided to spend that money on me.
	Thank you.
	Well, yeah, that's weird if a guy has an expectation because he paid for a date that he's not.
	That's what a lot of guys expect too.
	Like they expect that woman to stay because they have money.
	Money does not mean anything if you do not have a good personality or mental health.
	Actually, all the more reason that women should pay for the date.
	But so that the guy doesn't have any expectations.
	Although, look, I think it is probably best practice, generally speaking, as a man.
	Me personally, I have some qualms with paying for the first date, but generally speaking across the board, I do think recommended the guy should pay because there's definitely women you're going to lose if you don't pay for the.
	You should be going on fewer dates and spending as little money as possible if you're a man.
	Like that's what you should be doing.
	100% true.
	Like a walk.
	I go to the beach.
	Most first dates that I've been on, I don't spend a dime.
	Because I go, I'm going to walk my dog.
	Do you want to come with me?
	I feel like I would even prefer that.
	Like, I don't want to be able to do it.
	You don't like a good conversation.
	You don't like belly.
	No, yeah, I've done that, but I wouldn't be like, oh, let's go walk my dog.
	I'd be like, I'd rather stay home, to be honest.
	If it was like, oh, let's go walk down the park.
	Let's go get ice cream.
	I'd be like.
	Y'all are in a relationship, correct?
	I feel as if y'all are a very healthy, strong couple due to that mindset, because that is exactly a really healthy mindset to have.
	Not spending as much money as you can and enjoying things that are free in life.
	Like literally going to the beach, go smoke a blank.
	I don't know.
	Do something rather than going shopping or like what is that?
	Let me just come in.
	I do have to move things along, but one thing about what you said, you said, well, I'll go on a date, but I'm not really sure about the guy.
	I think this is an interesting difference between men and women.
	But maybe really quick, just a yes or no from all the girls here at the table.
	Have you ever gone on a date with a guy without knowing ahead of time if you wanted to sleep with him?
	Yeah.
	I honestly have no idea.
	I don't know.
	No.
	No.
	Wait.
	Yes.
	Could you really word that?
	Yeah, I know.
	Have you ever gone on a date with a guy where you weren't quite sure on him yet?
	You wanted to, in terms of, you haven't yet decided if you want to sleep with him yet.
	Yes.
	That's how.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I guess, yeah.
	Like you're undecided.
	It's not like you're going on the date and then you're like, I know I'm going to like this guy.
	No, that's how I was with this guy.
	And I ended up absolutely adoring him.
	I don't like this.
	Here's what he's doing.
	Here's what Brian is.
	It is a little confusing.
	Here's what Brian is.
	I think it's assuming that.
	Have you ever gone on a date with a guy who visually and upon immediate interaction, you weren't like, I would fuck him.
	I would.
	It's a little bit what I'm getting at, but you're asking me if I've ever felt that way.
	If I'd be like, in other words, is he currently in a position to succeed or a position to fail?
	Like, is he having to now earn your attraction?
	Does he have to prove and earn your attraction?
	Yes.
	Or are you already attracted to him?
	Have you gone on dates that you have you gone on dates with guys who you aren't already attracted to?
	Like he has to prove that he's a damn thing.
	Yes, they have to prove it at times.
	No attraction at all then like.
	I honestly don't know.
	My brain works really different.
	I feel like when I like somebody, I like them.
	I can't like that.
	That's not a question, but this is the difference because every guy who goes on a date, he's only going on a date with a girl who he is already down to fuck.
	He's already decided.
	He's already decided.
	I want to sleep with her.
	So now I'm going to see, like, basically, it's yours to lose at this point.
	That's how guys date.
	She's gorgeous and she seems pretty cool up front.
	Guys are looking for a reason to say yes.
	Brian's point is that women are looking for a reason to say no.
	That's the dynamic.
	So are you saying like women are the deciders?
	Is that what you're saying?
	No, what I'm saying.
	Do you ever hear a guy say, oh my God, like there's these things that give me the ick?
	No, usually girls say that.
	Yeah, because guys are looking at the situation going, yeah, she does all these, she does all these things that really piss me off, but she's really beautiful and she's kind of fun to talk to.
	Whereas it's the opposite for girls.
	Girls will be like, he's super sweet, he's super nice, he's really handsome, but, and they'll convince themselves not to sleep with a guy.
	Yeah, actually, I've been doing that with my friend.
	I'm like, you got to humble the guy.
	Sorry, you got to humble him first.
	You can't go, you can't put him on the ball.
	I was coming from where I'm like, you need to, like, I want to know that you're worthy of like me giving it up to you.
	Like, prove it as in like a way, like, I want to make sure I'm with you.
	I'm sexually attracted to you.
	And I'm not disagreeing with that, but I'm saying, like, not in a sense where I'm like very like feminist view on it, but I, I do want a guy to prove that, you know, he's worthy of being with me and that I'm worthy of being with him.
	And I hope he has the same mindset towards me.
	This also goes to the point that men and women are fundamentally attracted to different things.
	Men are attracted to your physical beauty.
	That is the biggest thing that draws us in.
	For you guys, you're like, he seems kind of cute, but I wonder if he also makes good money, also makes me laugh, also seems to be really intelligent, also has a lot of ambition, also listens to my stories.
	Like, all this is.
	Is this a bad or a good thing?
	I'm saying that it's just the way things work.
	Yeah, no, I don't agree with that.
	Women are selecting on so many more things than men are up front.
	Men are looking for beauty up front.
	We're auditioning first, you're auditioning second.
	Like, you ever notice how superficial?
	Are you going to be with someone that you don't even know?
	We can talk about superficiality when it comes to looks a little bit.
	So, what is superficial about it?
	That men are attracted to.
	Ooh, she's pretty.
	I want to marry her.
	Like, you're not going to be afraid of her.
	She's pretty.
	I want to go see.
	Okay, so let me ask you.
	I want to see how her brain works.
	You want to see?
	I'm going around the table.
	Everybody has an opportunity to answer on this, and we will come back to the relationship status.
	Do you think men are superficial?
	No, not most of them.
	Wait, can you speak straight into the mic?
	Not most of them.
	Yeah, I wouldn't say most of them, but the guys that do think that way are superficial.
	And I haven't really met a lot of guys like that.
	Thank God that I haven't, because then they'd be superficial on that.
	Well, this is precisely what we were talking about earlier: how men are not able to speak candidly about things related to dating.
	Hold on, Mike Davis, let me read this one.
	Do y'all not see how demented and screwed up these women are?
	Oh, wow.
	Okay, Mike Davis going in.
	Mike Davis is the resident roaster.
	I secured the bag and I'm a genuine a-hole, just what these degenerates want, but I want no part of STDs.
	I'll hire any one of you hobos that commits to coming overseas, passport bros.
	Okay.
	All right, that's Mike Davis.
	He likes to roast people.
	Okay, thank you, Mike Davis.
	Appreciate it.
	Do you think men are superficial, generally speaking?
	To be honest, it's again.
	It's a two-lane road.
	You are literally not going to sleep with someone or be with someone that you are not physically attracted to.
	No absolute way that you are going to marry that person.
	You got to be serious.
	This is kind of like a very easy question.
	It's not like no one should be offended by it either.
	Like, men are superficial.
	Yes, women are too.
	You're not going to be with a man that you don't find attractive.
	Based.
	I would say, I don't know.
	I guess the only thing I have to add is I've never thought about money and status and job until I've like, I was also like dating really young, but until I was like, I want to marry this person.
	That's like when my current boyfriend was like, oh, I have to start thinking about this things.
	Like some money, like do our lifestyles.
	Like, that's when I thought about all like deeper stuff.
	Like, how's this going to work?
	Okay.
	I mean, so money, status, these sort of things can be related to superficiality, but I was trying, I was more so trying to approach it from just purely physical things.
	Do you think men are superficial?
	Yeah, I do.
	I think so.
	No.
	Okay.
	No, but I'm still confused.
	I'm not sure.
	Okay, okay.
	Do you think, I'm going to come back around starting with you.
	Do you think women are superficial?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I do.
	Okay.
	Now that I understand the question, I'd say both.
	I'd say too late.
	Yeah, I like her response.
	Okay, so look, this originally stemmed from you saying, because he was saying men care about women's physical appearance, you're like, that's so superficial.
	Yeah.
	But, okay, would you date a guy who's shorter than you?
	Fuck no.
	He's so short.
	That's superficial.
	That's superficial.
	Let me say this.
	Let me say this.
	My ex was 6'2 ⁇ .
	If I were to date a guy younger than that, I'm going to get clowned on.
	Okay, I mean, taller, sorry.
	Taller than that.
	I'm going to get clowned on.
	Nobody's going to clown on you for dating a smaller guy.
	Wait, you say taller than you or shorter than you?
	Or sorry, shorter than 6'2 ⁇ .
	Yeah, shorter than 6'2.
	Wait, I'm gonna get clown though.
	Wait, what?
	Hold on.
	You're gonna get clowned on if you date a guy shorter than 6'2.
	Yeah, because my ex is tall.
	Nobody gives a fuck about your ex.
	I do.
	Oh, you do.
	Not that I care about my ex, but I'm like, always gotta do bigger, better, more money, gotta improve, you know?
	So this imaginary group of people is gonna be clowning on you because your ex, who probably most people, like some women want a man to learn more money was what she talked about.
	I said taller, more money.
	And you called me superficial for being a beautiful girl.
	Because I do, I need it.
	I need something better than my ex.
	Why would I want to go lower than my ex?
	Well, some women want a man to inspire them physically and mentally, like have more money, so they want to work to get more money.
	They have good looks.
	They have good hygiene.
	They work towards that so they can stay with this man on his level.
	Some women like that.
	Are you saying women date up?
	I don't.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, true.
	I do.
	I don't object to women liking tall men.
	There's just a biological basis for that.
	But you cannot sit there.
	Hold on.
	You cannot sit there and say men are superficial.
	Well, I think men and women are.
	You cannot sit there and say men are superficial for liking physically attractive women when one of the markers that women look for in men is height, which is something that men have absolutely zero control over.
	Right, you got it, Brian.
	You're right.
	Guys, it's not a gotcha.
	It's just like, you see how you're mean for bringing it up.
	I'm a toxic, toxic masculinity.
	How dare you be saying that?
	Okay, all right.
	What about penis size?
	Let's talk about that.
	That's how you get it.
	I don't really care, actually.
	You don't care?
	Yeah, I'm a small person.
	Small pelvic bone.
	Sorry, dude.
	So, saying you got like a gorilla grip.
	What the fuck are you talking about?
	Is that what you're talking about?
	Yeah, like you're small.
	Sometimes your pelvic lung can't handle a lot, you know?
	Yeah.
	That's so true.
	I'm 90 pounds.
	Like, I also have endometriosis.
	I had, so it doesn't matter.
	I had to go to.
	Sex doesn't matter at all.
	Yeah, I have a lot of people.
	I have to be a specialist because my reproductive was a little messed up.
	Yeah, so that's why I don't have it.
	Okay, guys, their DMs are open.
	If you're lacking in the bulge, okay.
	All right, let's keep it moving.
	Your relationship status, please.
	I am currently in a relationship.
	Okay.
	My longest relationship, I think, was like four-ish years.
	I'd say.
	Currently in a relationship.
	How old are you now?
	I'm 24.
	24.
	It was a high school relationship.
	Got it right out.
	How long have you been in this current relationship?
	It's new.
	We've been together since like brand new.
	Since May.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	My longest relationship was like five to six years, I'd say, somewhere in between there.
	And what were the other questions I was supposed to answer?
	How long have you been single for?
	Did you say that?
	Like two months.
	Two months.
	Yeah.
	And the five to six year relationship, is that the one that just ended?
	No.
	No.
	That was the one prior to this relationship.
	Okay, gotcha.
	So single for two months.
	My last relationship that I just got out of was two and a half years.
	Gotcha.
	Has there been a rebound?
	I don't know.
	No.
	There's, come on.
	Why are you hesitating?
	She's still stuck up on the bottom.
	Well, because I'm not going to jump and like, I'm absolutely not.
	I was actually checked out of that relationship.
	No, we actually mutually agreed, like, this isn't working.
	You don't feel happy.
	No, no, genuinely, genuinely, it was a mutual agreement.
	Okay.
	I can say that with my chest.
	Like, we both looked at each other and it was like, I was loyal to the point where I was like, I don't want to give up.
	I want to keep trying.
	And he was like, you know, like, it's hard for me to leave you.
	I love you.
	And then we looked at it.
	It was like, this isn't going to get better.
	It was hard because both of our families are very intertwined.
	Yeah, but it was time.
	It was time.
	We've been checked out for a while.
	Both of your families were intertwined.
	So we're talking like incest or what do we do?
	Okay, what the fuck?
	Absolutely not.
	Like, what?
	That is just far-reached.
	What's the other one?
	What's the other?
	Just like, I had a good relationship with his family, and I would hang out with his family.
	Oh, no, not untested, not second cousins.
	No, we had to get.
	We were in breeding, in breeding one.
	No, we were not in red.
	Yeah, we were family friends and whatnot, and it just wasn't working out.
	It was genuinely the first mutual breakup I've ever had in my life, so I also would ask who broke up with who, but that was, yeah.
	And then you two are in a relationship.
	Yes, we are.
	How long have you guys been dating?
	We dated twice.
	Twice?
	Oh, there's a breakup and they get back together?
	It's kind of a logistical breakup after the first two months.
	Well, I was about to move.
	She at the time was, I don't think I can move.
	I was never going to move.
	Like, I was never leaving Jersey.
	Did you end up?
	I live in Florida now.
	New Jersey.
	Hold on, Jesus.
	Mount Underscore, Whateverest donated $99.
	Bangs is back and forth.
	But you got to send these once she's here.
	I didn't think that would be the hairstyle change.
	Yo, Mount Whateverest, I'll retrigger when she's back.
	Let me get through a couple chats here.
	One sec.
	Oh, Mike Davis is about to come in here really quick.
	Hold on, guys, one sec.
	Yo, Bangs.
	Mount Whateverest said Bangs is back and blonde.
	Didn't think that would be the hairstyle change.
	Mike Davis donated $100.
	Thank you.
	I'm headed out.
	But Mexico should be lucky if a face transplant recipient would want her busted face.
	Wait, wait.
	Give the attention-seeking narcissist wannabe porno star some more airtime.
	She's dying inside.
	She's Thai, not Mexican.
	She's what?
	She's Thai.
	Who?
	Are they talking about her?
	Mike Davis.
	Mexico should be lucky if a face transplant.
	Shut up.
	Show your face, Mike Davis.
	Oh, wait, we already have a picture of him, huh?
	We do.
	Nick, can you pull it up?
	Is he ugly?
	Do you want to?
	I mean, he has a very comforting smile, to be honest.
	He has a comforting smile.
	Look at that.
	Yeah, you're working out Burger Davis.
	Do you want me to link you up with Mike Davis if it doesn't work?
	No.
	Well, you don't date black guys?
	Are you racist?
	They remind me of my brother, so no, actually.
	Your brother's black.
	It's not racist.
	Is your brother black?
	Yes, they are black.
	Yo, FDG, thank you very much for the 50.
	Are you half?
	No, my parents cheated.
	Oh, good times.
	Slave.
	Good times.
	Awesome.
	I mean, Mike Davis?
	Steve, do you want to say something?
	Yeah, Mike Davis, you just donated $100 and you're working at a fucking Burger King.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	He's the proprietor of hundreds of Burger Kings.
	I love Burger King.
	The chicken fries are the best.
	She does not give a shit.
	Okay, all right.
	Diesel Daddy here.
	It blows my mind how people's minds can be so warped.
	Why can't 304s screw your heads on straight?
	Your lifestyles are so ass backwards.
	It's insane.
	Bro, dude, the chats are pretty ruthless tonight.
	Okay, great to see Dan and Billy Ray back on.
	Please tear the three on the right apart this whole episode.
	Wow.
	What's the right?
	That side?
	What am I saying wrong?
	I'm not even doing anything.
	Yeah, so that's just a little bit of a drink.
	Not like the political.
	I didn't do it.
	If anything, I have their mindset.
	I just do OnlyFans.
	You're just sitting next to the fans.
	Like, boo-hoo!
	I just wanted a job.
	I can't work at Hooters.
	There's not one close to me.
	What?
	I used to work at Hooters and Twin Peaks.
	What about like a bookkeeping job?
	What about ew.
	Are you good with numbers?
	Ew.
	I like customer service.
	I enjoy customer service.
	Customer service.
	You don't want to get an engineering degree, go work for like Google or something like that.
	Jesus Fry Snow.
	I love making people happy and asking how their day is.
	What about being like a carpenter, like working with your hands?
	I am 90 pounds.
	I will literally.
	She does only fan hurts.
	What about going to work like the sewers or something like that?
	That's what my dad used to do.
	I'd rather not.
	Your dad's a legend.
	My dad, yeah, he's in the army.
	What about being like a teacher or something like that?
	Oh, yeah, I would definitely be a teacher or something like that.
	I would love to, like a psychiatrist or a therapist.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	You'd rather work with people.
	But I just need money to get up to it because, again, my dad is awful.
	He used my college fund.
	Got it.
	OnlyFans can get a college fund.
	Got it.
	Nice.
	OnlyFans does help me pay for school.
	It does.
	It helps me pay for my car.
	I've got any problems.
	Do you guys feel like this is?
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I'll move it along.
	Hold on.
	Okay, guys, we have Alex P here.
	What's the cheap plastic crap you're writing with?
	You have better options.
	Shame on you.
	Yo, this is Alex.
	Alex, I haven't.
	We have your pens.
	Everybody here at the table used your Alex sent us some custom whatever pens.
	Oh, dope.
	Those were good pens.
	Yo, shout out to Alex.
	Good weight on those.
	Some great weight.
	They were fantastic pens.
	So thank you, Alex, for sending us those free pens.
	Really appreciate it.
	Everybody here, like first time using them, they signed the releases, so appreciate it.
	Folly with the Ugandan Knuckles.
	Thank you, man.
	Hey, Brian.
	Just wanted to let you know after watching two viral clips from two separate episodes and then watching the full episodes, both clips came from.
	This is officially one of my favorite visual podcasts.
	Started from episode one earlier today.
	Awesome and controversial.
	Well, dude, hey, welcome to the family.
	Really appreciate it.
	Thank you for tuning in.
	The earlier episodes are a little more tame.
	But episode one's kind of, but it gets better.
	So thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Hope you enjoy watching.
	Thank you, man.
	And then we have Dave.
	Hey, thank you for the membership.
	Appreciate it, guys.
	Guys, get your TTSs in, get your super chats in.
	We will check back in on those in a little bit.
	Okay, so you guys were so kind to provide some pre-show notes to us.
	So I'm going to ask you guys a couple questions here.
	We got, let me see.
	So you do adult content, traditional content.
	How many scenes have you done?
	Maybe less than 50.
	Less than 50.
	Okay.
	And are these with, is there like it's a new guy every scene, or is it like you'll do repeating?
	Sometimes it's repeating.
	Okay.
	And you do scenes with men, with women, or I don't do girls, I just do men.
	Got it.
	Sometimes I'll do a boy, girl, girl.
	If it's like a girl I know and like she's like my friend because like it's fun.
	Okay.
	And when did you're 20 now?
	Did you start at 19?
	I started in May, so I was 19.
	Okay.
	So it's been a few months.
	Oh, just a couple months.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	And before that, were you doing OF or it started?
	I was in nursing school and I was doing OF in my senior year of college because it was like I couldn't be a CNA anymore because it was like long shifts and like nursing school is hard.
	Okay.
	So I started OnlyFans and then I liked it and then I graduated and I was like being a nurse and I was like, this is so 30 year old woman.
	I was like, I'm going to go do porn, you know?
	Wait, being a nurse is a 30-year-old one?
	It was just like, yeah, it was like hard hours and it's something I would love to do when I'm like married with like seven kids and like Utah at 30.
	But like 20 to somebody in Utah.
	Yeah, but you know, that's like.
	She's supposed to have seven kids.
	She's going to be like in Utah and 30.
	She's working on the kids.
	Yeah, like later.
	But like right now, I'm like 20 and like I have such a lovely time performing that it's like, sometimes I think I was like destined to do porn.
	Like I just love it so much.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	I have something here from Allison.
	You said your relationship is complicated, but it's a three-year relationship.
	No.
	Wait, what?
	Wait, hold on.
	Sorry.
	Oh, wait.
	Sorry.
	You're currently in a relationship, correct?
	How long is the relationship been?
	We got together in like May.
	Oh, sorry.
	Sorry.
	Okay, I mixed up my notes here.
	So you've been together for three.
	May, June, July, August, September, four months.
	Three to four months.
	It says here that it's complicated, though.
	I didn't put that.
	I think you're talking about me.
	I think you're talking about me.
	Oh, okay.
	Because remember, I was messaging you about Allison.
	Right.
	But you're single.
	I'm single.
	Somebody said something about it's complicated for me.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Not Allison.
	Why is it complicated?
	Why is what complicated?
	Not being in a relationship, or what is the context that we used it in?
	I mean, I could pull up the messages here to confirm what was wait.
	My Instagram onto this?
	No, I'm just pulling it.
	Okay, okay.
	I'm like, please don't.
	Yeah.
	Let's see.
	One sec here.
	Good.
	I mean, the only thing I'm doing.
	I think we know, wait, this is a better way to phrase it.
	What was the question you asked when we said it was, are you in a relationship or are you in a situation shift?
	What, what, what?
	So it was the pre-show notes.
	You were talking about your friend to Allison.
	She is conservative and traditional.
	She is in a relationship that is complicated.
	Oh.
	Based on views of what they both want for their future.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, okay.
	The only thing that's complicated about that is I'm from California, Central Coast.
	He lives in Jersey.
	I moved to New Jersey to be with him because I really want to see if this works out.
	But I know in my gut that I don't want to be in New Jersey forever.
	That's what's complicated.
	So she's struggling to be like, I want to be with this person, but I don't want to be in this location.
	He has a job that is demanding in that state.
	Yeah.
	And it works there.
	And so she's.
	But the relationship itself, I mean, it's very new.
	Love it so far, except I don't want to be in New Jersey forever, the long term.
	So you're just visiting California right now, but you currently live in Jersey.
	Yes.
	With him?
	I don't live with him, no.
	But he lives there.
	She's visiting for a week.
	She's from here.
	We don't live together.
	But you live in Jersey.
	I do.
	Wait, so he asked you to move to Jersey, but you don't live together?
	Yeah, I just moved back to New Jersey.
	She went to school in Jersey.
	They met.
	They started talking.
	We're interested in one another.
	And then she had moved back.
	Moved back.
	Based on what was that?
	Like a break?
	Like a Christmas not break?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I finished school in December.
	I moved back home to see my family.
	I stuck around for a while because I was like, what am I doing with my life?
	Yes.
	Missed him a ton and said I wanted to make this work.
	So I decided to move back to New Jersey.
	I knew that was coming.
	That wasn't a bad thing, right?
	Like you can miss someone.
	That's a great thing for a person.
	Yeah, I missed that.
	I missed him a lot.
	And we still kept in contact, but it wasn't like an everyday thing.
	We were not texting every day, every few weeks.
	And then, yeah, missed him, wanted to move back.
	So then he's going to be a little bit more.
	Okay, so you don't want to move to Jersey?
	I don't love New Jersey.
	I'm going to live.
	She lives in New Jersey right now, but I'm going to try it.
	What do you guys live in Camden or something?
	I don't even know where that is.
	How did you know where that is?
	Listen, I'm a traveled man.
	I'm a cultured man.
	I know about the shitty place.
	That's where his home is in the United States.
	No, I don't live in a desirable place in New Jersey.
	What's another shitty place in Jersey?
	Galloway.
	Yeah, Galloway is not hungry.
	Okay.
	But how are you guys handling this?
	Does he know that you don't want to be in Jersey?
	He does.
	I make it very clear.
	I vocalize that all of the time.
	And what does he say back?
	He does not want to stay in New Jersey forever either, but he just scored this job and he wants to see how it plays out.
	No, he worked for the job.
	He had a commitment to this job and he has a commitment to this job.
	And she, when she went back into moving there, she wasn't sure if she was going to want to live there or not.
	She now has decided, like, I don't want to be here forever.
	But he is committed to this job.
	So I will say he's very receptive.
	Very receptive.
	Yeah, always has been.
	Yes.
	But before I moved back to New Jersey, he agreed that we would not be there forever.
	It was a temporary kind of thing.
	Do you think that you could get to the point where you love him so much that you will stay there?
	I don't think so.
	She loves herself more, I think.
	I can't.
	My family.
	You have to take care of it.
	She was never going to leave New Jersey.
	Really?
	Now she's been here.
	Oh, damn, you're screwed.
	And what?
	I was never leaving New Jersey.
	Never.
	Like, nothing could ever convince me to leave New Jersey.
	And not because I liked it.
	It's because my family's there.
	That's the thing.
	My family's here.
	But she lives in Florida now with him, is what they're saying.
	Oh, oh.
	Yeah, my family's in Jersey.
	God, and so maybe, maybe, maybe.
	Who knows?
	I want to make just a really quick point about this.
	And you know what?
	I lost everything coming to Florida.
	I really did.
	I lost my whole family.
	I really did.
	Nobody knows that.
	No, you don't.
	No, I don't want to get into that.
	What changed your mind?
	Just missing him so much?
	Because you didn't eat either and then he broke up.
	I don't want to be without him.
	Okay.
	Is it like too personal to talk on?
	Wait, how long did you have to do that?
	I actually don't want to give whatever the platform to do that.
	I'll talk about it on my own pages.
	Yeah, I can respect that.
	How long did it take for you to feel like that?
	Like, what was when you were like, shit, the day that you woke up and you're like, I want to be with him, I'll do whatever.
	So when we got back together, he was living in Florida at that point.
	So the only way to see him once we started talking again was to go to Florida.
	So I would buy like the first time I went, I bought a ticket for like three days, and then I went a couple more times for like maybe a week.
	And then by the third time I was going, I was buying one-way tickets and only coming back when I had like a doctor's appointment and now I live there.
	And again, just to make the point about sort of the dynamics, I was commenting earlier when you were talking about the dynamics between men and women and what makes a good, healthy, attractive relationship early on.
	Bender the offender donated $99.
	Girl directly opposite of Brian gives off Grand Canyon energy, dry, wide and deep, and not much to look at.
	Which one?
	That's you.
	I'm listening to what you're saying.
	No.
	Dry, wide, and deep, and not much to look at.
	I don't know.
	Thank you.
	That's so unique.
	What I was going to say was, there's something to be said.
	Have you heard, if you've listened to anybody talk in what's considered the red pill space, you've heard them talk about how it's more important that the girl adores the guy more than the reverse.
	And the reason for that is because there has to be, basically, men are working, like women are working from a deficit.
	We don't know what red pill is.
	I'm leaning towards like conservative Republican.
	No, it's mostly like the truth about the dynamics between men and women.
	Fresh and fit, you know, there's Tate, there's Rolo Tomasi, there's Rich Cooper, there's all these different guys who are sort of like linked to it.
	But it's very, very important that the man is the one holding the frame that the woman wants to step into.
	Women, why you say women?
	I agree with it?
	Yes.
	Because, again, there's a deficit that men are working from.
	Men will love girls very, very idealistically because they're very few and far between for men.
	Women have so many options that they're not always champing at the bit to just step in and commit to one of them.
	So women need to adore the man because they're more likely to remain loyal and stick around.
	That's a huge piece of it.
	But on top of that, women look for authority.
	They look for leadership.
	And a man who is set in his ways, set in his principles, knows what he wants out of life, she will actually be attracted and likely to step into that frame to experience that frame with him.
	They don't like it.
	They don't like when it's the other way around.
	When a girl is the one making all the decisions, doing all the moving around, like she's the one who wants to work, wants to move to this, and the guy is just following like a puppy dog.
	What do you want?
	What do you want?
	Yeah.
	It's very not masculine.
	You want to talk about dry, right?
	Like that is literally what happens.
	It's appalling and it's very mentally tolling.
	Right.
	Mentally tolling.
	I don't think that's mentally tolling.
	I know.
	Yeah, that's very attractive.
	Like a man is like assertive in his way.
	So you're saying it's draining for the girl.
	Yes.
	It is very draining for the girl to be the one who is way more above the man, especially.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	100%.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I thought you were right.
	I would never, ever do that.
	A lot of my clients, One of the biggest things that they struggle with is how to actually act on a first date.
	They go into dates so nervous and they have all these things in the back of their head, like, oh, I don't want to talk too much.
	I want to let her speak.
	I want to ask her a lot of questions.
	I don't want to make her feel too uncomfortable.
	This is what's going through most guys' heads.
	And I have to tell them, you're the one who needs to make the conversation interesting.
	They want you to drive the conversation.
	They want you to be joking.
	They want you to take risks.
	They want you to say something offensive that they're either going to jump back or no, I'm serious because I'm dead serious.
	Say something offensive.
	I say offensive things to my men all the time.
	And that's why we wait.
	This is the opposite of what.
	Wait.
	No, no, no.
	No, what I'm saying is you have to say things that could potentially be taken the wrong way so that you can then be like, I'm just kidding.
	Or like, or discuss the AAAI.
	It's a joke.
	I agree.
	And then you have to be the one who's willing to break the touch barrier.
	Are you going to grab her hand?
	Are you going to put your arm around her?
	Are you going to just do something like that?
	Because we're sure as hell.
	I'm going to do something just like that.
	I'm not going to use the bathroom.
	I'll be right back.
	Something as simple as that.
	Men are the ones who always have to take the lead early in a relationship.
	We're the ones auditioning first.
	And then the moment that you actually like using that.
	We're seeking that.
	We're seeking that.
	Yeah, and guess what?
	The moment that I pass that test, guess what you start doing?
	Hey, can I come over and cook us dinner?
	Hey, do you mind if I'm just going to come back to you real quick?
	Hey, I'm just going to tidy this up for you.
	You start making the bed when I get out of bed to do the shower.
	You just fall right into place.
	And I don't mean to be like, I put you in your place.
	I mean, women will just naturally start to get out of the way.
	Do you think that's bad?
	No, I think it's amazing.
	I think that's exactly how relationships are designed to be.
	So I help men pass those tests first date.
	And how did you get it?
	It comes even to like biological because it's this projection.
	Yes, but like, yeah, you went to school for this?
	Like, you got a date?
	No, you went to Santa Monica Community College.
	No, I genuinely think you are a very intelligent woman.
	So that's nice.
	You're making very good points.
	I just wanted to know where you got all this.
	No, this is something.
	I mean, listen, I've been in.
	I was in one relationship for four years in my early 20s.
	Then I dated one other girl for about a year.
	Outside of that, I've been single.
	I've mentioned this to her before.
	Like, she asked me, how do you know so much?
	I'm like, I've been on a million first dates, very few second dates.
	I have, like, the way that I operate in the dating space is I'm so good at passing those early tests and establishing what you guys would consider a good vibe with a girl, right?
	I understand.
	That they basically just get to the point where it's like, oh, okay, like now I want to spend more time with him.
	I want to spend.
	So I'm the one who has seen girls go through the process of I'm not so sure to I'm obsessed.
	Like it's happened time and time again where girls are just champing at the bit to see me.
	They're champing at the bit to text me.
	Is that how you got Billy?
	She's a good one.
	But no, she's a good one.
	And FDG.
	And once you've been, I'm not saying been around the block in terms of sleeping with girls.
	I'm saying once you've been around the block in terms of watching the change in emotion and the change of behavior in women, you just start to take note of it.
	And I've always been a very pensive guy.
	So all of a sudden, guys are coming to me, my friends, guys in my network saying, ask me really silly questions about dating.
	And I'm like, how the fuck do you not know this?
	Then that's when I started to realize, oh, I just know more about this than they do.
	I'm able to reverse engineer it and make it repeatable.
	I have a very repeatable process to being successful early in the dating stage with women.
	And at that point, one of my buddies just said to you, you got to stop giving the advice away for free.
	So I've been kind of, I was sort of an on-the-side dating coach for a number of years.
	Now for probably about 12 to 18 months, I've been doing it full time.
	Yeah, you're one of like one of.
	What about the girl boss women though?
	Like, I'm not necessarily being one, I'm not one of them, but that are very like naturally dominant, like run a business, have a net worth, whatever it might be that makes them more established.
	Or on top, would you say that you still think that?
	Like, I'm genuinely curious.
	Quick, quick response, and then I do have to move on.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, the problem is your dating pool is very small because you're only going to date guys who can out-masculine you.
	True.
	With those top one percenters.
	Not even the top one percenters.
	I just mean the guys who have a greater degree of masculine dominant energy than you do.
	Everything.
	So not financially, not anything else.
	Finances could be a part of it, but I think money is a byproduct of a lot of masculinity.
	Yes.
	I would say I'm a little bit more dominant and I want to be the breadwinner.
	Like I would, he can like try to make more money with me, but that's my goal.
	Like I want to be that girl, but I still want a man who can lead.
	That doesn't mean he needs to be like the opposite.
	I want us to be like, I want us to both exist in that state.
	So you're not a feminist.
	So you're not a feminist.
	But don't you think that if you're the breadwinner, it's going to be harder for you to find a guy to fall into the leadership position?
	I don't know.
	I don't know exactly how our dynamic worked out, but I just worked out where he lets me shine, but he's okay with me taking dominance where I want to take dominance, but he's also like, where do you want to take dominance?
	What do you mean?
	Not in the bedroom.
	Can I offer a huge hypothesis?
	No, not in the bedroom.
	Can I offer a hypothetical?
	Not in the bedroom?
	I just mean like I feel like I am.
	Do you have not in the bedroom?
	No, no, no, no.
	That's what we're saying we don't want.
	It's funny, they never want it in the bedroom, but they don't want to submit in real life.
	No, no, no.
	No, that's not a good idea.
	I don't mind being submitted.
	Hold on, let's finish with this thread.
	Go ahead.
	I think the difference is like I went to school for four years and I want my master's degree and stuff.
	And he kind of knows what he wants to do and he's, but he can do that anywhere.
	So he's like, hey, if you want to go to this school, your dream school, I will go with you because I can do what I do wherever.
	You know what I mean?
	So it's kind of like a pullback.
	So it's not like he could chase me, but just in that aspect, like he's okay with following me.
	That's not a dominance thing.
	I mean, that's a very logical decision on his part.
	Okay, I consider that as like I'm making some big decision for us.
	You want to be the breadwinner.
	So what kind of line of work do you want to go into?
	I don't know yet I might like freelance because right now I'd like freelance what um Social media management.
	I'm thinking of it, but I also work like, that's what I do on the side right now, and then I go into marketing.
	But I want a business degree at some point.
	Wait, so you want to, okay, you have your bachelor's.
	Yes.
	Are you currently in school for your master's?
	No, but I want to.
	And your master's would be a business degree, or that would be a separate degree than from your master's?
	I would go to business school, yes.
	Probably get it somewhere.
	And get a master's in.
	Probably in something like marketing management or something.
	Okay.
	Can I offer you a hypothetical?
	Sure.
	You're working full-time.
	You're also in a master's program.
	Not yet.
	Sorry, sorry.
	Let's say you're working and you're in a master's program, hypothetically speaking.
	And your boyfriend is doing exactly the same thing that he's currently doing.
	He's making money the same way.
	He's on the same schedule.
	He's got the same everything.
	All of a sudden, you are working similar hours.
	Then you also have your schoolwork.
	There are going to be some times where you have to work a little bit overtime.
	There's going to be times where late at night you're having to do homework, do a lot of reading, and you're looking.
	And all of a sudden, he's the one who needs to keep the place tidy.
	He's the one who needs to do the cooking.
	He's the one who needs to do all the cleaning.
	He's the one who is the one who's chauffeuring you around.
	He's the one taking time out of his busy schedule to support you.
	How are you going to view him?
	I wouldn't view him negatively, but I would also never ask all of that stuff for him because I make sure I have enough time to do a lot of stuff.
	But what happens?
	But what happens when all of a sudden the apartment is a little bit untidy?
	What if you guys aren't having dinner at a nice time?
	Are you going to look at him and be like, hey, I could use your help cooking?
	I could use your help.
	Cleaning up.
	I've never had to really ask, but he's never been in the position where he has to catch up.
	Like, I was very busy during school.
	Like, I was doing a thesis program as an undergrad.
	Like, it was like that where I'm like, I don't even have time to eat.
	And I've never had to be like, hey, could you please cook dinner for once?
	It was just he was like, here, like, here's food.
	I made dinner already.
	Do you guys live together?
	We do now.
	No.
	As of like a couple months.
	But this was just, we lived across the street.
	It's all about compromising.
	I don't want to make it.
	I'm helping each other out.
	Well, happiness without.
	I mean, like if Billy's working hard and you know she had a hard day and you're at the sucks, one at a time.
	We're going to cook her dinner, right?
	And you're going to be like, out of an act of love.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, so you said it was unattractive, like helping out.
	Like, is that what you meant?
	I have a question for you.
	Well, let's rephrase.
	I don't know.
	What did I say unattractive to?
	I'm not sure.
	He was talking and he was like, oh, like if a doctor.
	Oh, yeah, if it's expected that a male is going to like cook, clean, do all those things.
	Yeah, that's very unattractive to me.
	I'd be like, that's, I got that.
	Even though you were really busy and it was like taking a toll on you mentally and you were smart.
	Yeah, I can juggle all of those balls at once.
	Yeah, I would say it's very unattractive.
	Like, go do your thing.
	My point is.
	And I would also never ask him to do all that because he also has his goals.
	And I don't think it would get to a place where I'm like, hey, you're doing all the housework and I'm doing ill doing his own thing.
	Maybe one, but he doesn't mind picking up or something.
	Please, one mic at a time.
	Go ahead.
	If they're willing to actually put in the work, I think that's great.
	The guy I'm with now is like, I don't have to ask him to get me food.
	He literally just is like, okay, I'm going to get you food.
	He knows I don't want to order because I have anxiety, so he orders for me and I'm not going to be eater.
	So it's all apart.
	Do you want to accept the help or not?
	What's funny about that?
	Yeah, do you want to accept the help or not?
	Do you want to accept the guy's help or not?
	Is that you, food?
	Yes.
	Are you the.
	I have one of the worst mental health, but I'm not going to let that dominate my entire life.
	But he can see that I juggle so much with being so young, being a personal assistant, dropping my entire family behind.
	And he's just like, oh, you look very stressed.
	Let me do this for you.
	So does being her personal assistant stress you out?
	Is that the sole purpose of the stress and anxiety?
	Okay.
	No.
	Okay, okay.
	Okay, let's stick to this.
	Do you want kids?
	I've thought about that.
	Maybe like one or two, but not until I'm well established and I'm at a good point in my career.
	Like not anytime soon, for sure.
	Well, so in your late 20s.
	I'm thinking late 20s, 30, maybe at the latest.
	And you said maybe one or two?
	Yeah.
	I've always wanted one, but he was an only child, so I think we're going to when we do.
	He's against an only child.
	Do you guys talk about it?
	Do you guys talk about it too?
	I mean, we do just because I know I'm going to marry him.
	Like, I just do.
	So, like, are you guys engaged?
	We're not engaged.
	Okay, but you have to talk about those things, make sure it comes to age.
	So, okay, you do want kids.
	When you're pregnant, do you want to be still in the breadwinner role even throughout your pregnancy?
	Or would you like to take some time off?
	I've thought about that a little bit, and like, I don't know exactly how I'll be feeling at the time, but I hope I have, we both have enough saved, or I can stay at home, he can keep working.
	Like, I would like to stay home.
	I don't think I would keep working through my pregnancy and when I have my first kid.
	I'd get back into my work, though, but I do want that family time, is how I imagine it.
	Okay.
	I think we'll allow it as long as you don't complain about the wage gap when you come back.
	All right.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Here, let me get a couple chats and then we'll come back.
	All right, we have Tariq.
	Layla is full of lies.
	Do you want to address that, Layla?
	He's a stalker.
	I won't talk about that.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, he's on my stalkers.
	Fuck you, Tariq.
	He's like my dick.
	He's a stalker?
	It's awful.
	Stop.
	I don't talk about that.
	Is he just like...
	No, he's like a stalker for real.
	He's like, oh, proper stalker, not just like a he like is obsessed with like figuring out my personal information.
	Yikes.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Weird.
	Awkward.
	Okay, Tariq.
	Just a viewer missed 90 pounds.
	Didn't hear your name.
	You being so light gives me self-confidence about only being 135 pounds.
	Thank you for existing, and I wish you happiness going forward.
	Thank you so much.
	I actually love that.
	I am also 100 pounds and I get that.
	Like, I've been told, like, have you eaten stuff?
	So, no, I'm just dealing with stuff myself.
	So, that makes me so happy.
	Thank you.
	I assume.
	I guess this is a guy.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	We have Mr. Doodle, Doodler.
	Excuse me.
	Hey, Brian.
	Thank you for the Mercy Buku for the Canadian 50.
	Love the show.
	Please get Asmund Gold on.
	I've reached out to Asmund Gold's people.
	We'll see.
	We'll see.
	You know, he never leaves Texas.
	He just hangs out there and plays video games.
	But we'll try.
	We'll try.
	John Stilato.
	Hey, thank you, man.
	Brian W podcast.
	Shout out.
	Souped up ghetto ass car.
	Also, I want to slide in the first girl's DMs, but first ask her if she would ever be loyal to a guy and ask what would make them want to be thanks.
	John, thanks for the very early support.
	Dark times.
	Souped up ghetto ass car was an early, early Billy Rayburn.
	A lot of years ago.
	Is he talking about you guys?
	Yeah, it was like videos I used to make about cars.
	Oh, okay.
	She would make fun of cars.
	So this is directed to you.
	Would you ever be loyal to a guy?
	I would be.
	I feel like I am sometimes.
	I am right now.
	Well, you can't.
	It's like loyal sometimes.
	Which one?
	What does that mean?
	Both.
	But what about the husband?
	I mean, I'm not fucking him.
	She's physically loyal.
	She's fucking John Zerka while married to a Mormon bishop and she shoots.
	You couldn't say it any better.
	It's amazing.
	But you're not loyal to your husband.
	I am loyal to his penis right now.
	You're loyal to John Zerka's penis, but you have a fucking husband.
	Okay, she's physically loyal.
	And also, did you go to work?
	She has a husband.
	I haven't been working right now because I've been fucking him.
	And he's in like, he actually doesn't let me cheat on him.
	Like, he's very, he's like super red pill.
	So he's like, when you fuck me, like, you're fucking me only.
	Yeah, but now he's gone for two weeks in Miami, and now you can fuck because his proximity is not in LA.
	Well, because, you know, he's like, he's like super, like, what's the, he's, like, super, what's the word?
	Like, entertainment.
	And so I know he's going to go over there and like have bitches on him for stream and shit.
	And like, he won't fuck them.
	But like, you know, like, if he wants to fuck someone, like, fuck them.
	Like, you're always going to come back to me.
	So your Mormon husband, if he was watching this and heard everything.
	He's probably watching.
	So how does he feel about John Zerka?
	Like, is he just supportive?
	Is he proud of you?
	He's not, like, he's not like, oh, my God, please fuck my girlfriend.
	But he's like, you're in your 20s.
	Like, get it out now so I can like marry you when you're loyal and you're 30 and I won't like fuck my cool boy.
	Do you think he's secure in himself?
	I know you heard that word because he knows I'm going to be with him.
	That sounds like a man that's very secure in himself.
	Yo, hold on.
	Is he watching right now?
	What's his name?
	First name.
	I don't know if he is.
	His name's Carter.
	Carter.
	Oh my god, fuck wait.
	I wasn't supposed to say that.
	Carter.
	Fuck.
	Carter the Mormon bishop.
	The Mormon cook.
	I'm not supposed to say that.
	Have some fucking dignity.
	Divorce your supposed.
	I promise you, if I gave you a head right now, you would understand.
	Bro, no.
	You're so Okay first off Like you just Please stay away from my penis, okay?
	You just don't get it.
	Stay away from my penis.
	You just don't get it.
	Okay, here's what you guys think that like the Gluckluck 9000.
	No, it's not the Gluckluck.
	That is the most unattractive.
	I could tell you from any guy that follows me would probably agree with this.
	That is the most unattractive thing.
	Wait, girl, I do not go that way.
	I don't go that way.
	I'm not trying to fuck you.
	No, it's the most unattractive thing.
	She doesn't do girlfriend contacts.
	I don't do flaunt your sexuality like that to the world.
	The man is extremely unattractive.
	I wasn't trying to make you horny, though.
	You see how this is dismissive?
	This is actually what Zerka does.
	I see why they get along.
	This is like very dismissive game.
	It's a very masculine thing, actually.
	Thank you.
	Okay, I can see why you like sex so much.
	Do you think like basically a man?
	Do you think the ultimate man is a man?
	She says that.
	I don't think she's a gay man.
	Like, that's like how she would describe herself.
	Do you think that the ultimate thing that men are preoccupied with is the ability with which you can suck their dick?
	Do you think that's a good thing?
	That's the only thing I care about.
	Do you think that's a good thing?
	I don't really care too much about you.
	I just want to have your penis in my throat.
	Bro, you're weird.
	Okay.
	It's a pleasure thing.
	It is.
	That's so cool.
	Yeah.
	It's such a big thing.
	Like, it is.
	Wait, you're saying currently, right now, you want my penis in your mouth.
	No, not yours.
	You have a fucking boyfriend.
	Not yours.
	What the fuck?
	Why are you cheating on John Zerka?
	Holy shit.
	Not only are you cheating on your fucking husband.
	It was crazy.
	You just solicited a blow job.
	What the fuck?
	It was for an experiment.
	It was for an experiment to show you to prove a point.
	What was the experiment?
	You would understand.
	Explain the experiment.
	Proving scientific method.
	Proving my point.
	Zerka would understand.
	I would be like, I had a sex dick.
	I had to prove my point.
	And he'd be like, valid.
	I'm still not following.
	I could not say that.
	My point was like, if I'd suck your dick, you would understand.
	Understand?
	What would I understand after you sucked my dick?
	You'd be like, damn, no wonder these guys stay with her.
	That's some crazy head.
	Yes, because.
	Because based on your mindset, it's not giving anyone would stay, but based if the head's that good.
	I mean, maybe.
	I don't know.
	Oh, no, they have the asteroids.
	I mean, I understand y'all would probably never be able to understand because I mean, like, I could never.
	If your head name's that bad, like, that's fine.
	I think sexist comes to me.
	Some people don't think sex is a bad thing.
	I don't think sex is taboo, but I just cannot rationalize with what you're talking about.
	genuinely sounds like a fourth but it's like i can't Not a personal dick, but I just cannot.
	It's not taboo.
	It's just not on the same wavelength as what I think.
	It's not fine at all, bro.
	When you make it, your whole personality is when it's the problem, though.
	That's when it's really extremely unattractive.
	I'm literally.
	I know, but even in person, like, as she's talking about it, you said it's the only thing you care about.
	It's the only thing you care about.
	Yeah, I mean, like, I love you, and like, whatever.
	I guess they say chase your passions, right?
	Yeah.
	I agree.
	Lizzie, it might be the only thing she cares about for her dating life, but to be honest, it is, she cares about so she graduated nursing school.
	Like, you're answering four.
	Do you have to say that because you're not going to be able to do that?
	No, I don't.
	But her little life revives.
	I just don't care.
	My life is like if you're a reviewer.
	Let me reflex on you like I could.
	I mean, like, what degree do you have?
	I'm going to finish that statement, though.
	Dignity, respect.
	Degrees.
	I don't.
	I have degrees.
	I know, I do too.
	But which one do you have?
	Tell me.
	I have a business degree and a pre-law degree.
	Okay, I have a nursing degree.
	And she's only 20.
	So we're not any different.
	I act like nursing artists.
	Oh, no, she's very different.
	No, yeah.
	Extremely different.
	I mean, like, education-wise.
	Like, you know, you're like, oh, my God, how do you think like that?
	It's like there's a difference between getting the education, right?
	Like, we can all cheat our way through classes and be like, you can't cheat your way through whatever.
	Pardon me?
	Nursing school, you cannot cheat your way through it.
	Well, you didn't end up doing that, right?
	No, I did.
	I have my dad.
	You said that was for a 30-year-old married woman, which you're married.
	I have my nursing degree.
	I became a nurse, and I was like, let me do this.
	I'm 30.
	Let me wait for a little bit.
	Exactly.
	That's good.
	Also, when you sat down, one of the first things you said was to him, do you know John Zerka?
	And how many times have you dropped his name here the entire year?
	Is that weird?
	He's not.
	No, it's again, it's like the you have a husband.
	You have a husband.
	The only thing you're doing flexing is like another husband.
	Oh, this is your husband?
	You are married?
	Dope.
	Good for y'all.
	That's awesome.
	Wait, am I cracking?
	What's your name?
	No, he's my girlfriend.
	Hold on.
	Sorry, sorry.
	That's not her.
	Stop.
	Make her.
	They genuinely like how they think.
	We're saying sex is super taboo.
	I am literally a sex worker and I will not sleep with a guy on the first date.
	And I will need to see their true intentions if they actually want to be with me or not.
	So they might absolutely.
	Why do you help her do what she does?
	Because she would do anything in the world for me.
	She's not getting my point.
	Finish your point.
	Go ahead.
	She would do anything, but like, just because.
	Learn that.
	Just because other people love sex, I swear, and I'm not even trying to say it in a shitty way.
	It is a trauma thing.
	It's a trauma thing.
	They did not get enough male validation growing up.
	No, they did not.
	And they're traumatic to not get enough male validation.
	My father was not there.
	And that is a little bit of a damage.
	So why don't you help her get on the right?
	Wait, why don't you help her get on the right path?
	If you care about her, then we'll bring it on the right path.
	Open up a foundation to help men stay in the home.
	I'm helping a foundation for mental health.
	I'm not here to help sex workers.
	I'm here to help people who actually have a mental health that is exploding.
	She said at the beginning she was fucked up.
	Which I'm not judging, but she said she was fucked up.
	I tell her all the time.
	You're allowing this to happen.
	I don't think that's a good thing.
	She's a grown woman.
	She doesn't have your responsibility.
	And you're the one.
	And you're enabling her daily.
	I'm her work assistant.
	I take her to work.
	Why would I leave her?
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	We got a chat here.
	Hold on.
	Okay, she's a weird troll, y'all, saying the most outlandish things to piss people off.
	We can see through her like a glass window.
	Is it a surprise that she's with Zirka?
	That's a match made in heaven, or she's just a blank who.
	Who is Zerka?
	I want to put out there first off and foremost, I hope y'all know that just because I work under her, it does not define my life at all.
	I am a human outside of working for her.
	If I was an assassin and you were my assistant, I would go home and sleep at night and wash my face and eat.
	No, stop.
	Let's not derail the conversation.
	So, no principles, no real morals that you can stand by.
	If I'm taking her to work, that is how you make money.
	If she would take me anywhere if I wrecked my car, and she used to.
	She would have to stand with her.
	Okay, that's cool.
	Wait, but can I say something?
	So, like, this might be a little relevant, but like, literally, like, Zirka looks just like my dad.
	He has the same name and like smokes the same cigarettes.
	And I genuinely think that's why I'm so attracted to him.
	Because he also abuses you a little bit.
	Like, verbally, in like a hot way.
	Like, you know, he's like, shut the fuck up.
	You, like, I can't say those words.
	But, like, you know, like, you bitch, blah, blah, blah.
	And I'm like, because you have no standards.
	But he doesn't mean it in that tiny type of way.
	He says it for like, just, like, to be kind of funny.
	And then he'll buy her like $300 worth of food.
	And then call me like this.
	You're the lowest of the low.
	And you need that to be your reality.
	So you need a man to remind you.
	Wait, so it's all a joke to him.
	To him?
	No, like, saying all those words.
	No, her whole life is a joke.
	That's what it is.
	You're miserable.
	You're miserable.
	Yeah, we're not roasting it.
	You're miserable.
	It really is.
	It's because I'm not reminding you.
	Stop.
	One person speaking at a time.
	Say your thing, then you guys can respond.
	Go ahead.
	No personal attacks, mister.
	We already discussed that at the beginning.
	No personal attacks, and you're over here.
	She's the one literally trying to flex on people.
	All right.
	You're a male.
	She offered me, she did offer a blowjob.
	It's crazy because the one being deeply hurt by the blowjob offer.
	You're hurt?
	I'm deeply offended.
	I feel like that's a friendly gesture.
	Just a BJ.
	Anyways, you're miserable.
	You're miserable.
	Stop me up after a VJ dog.
	I just don't get this whole, like, you wouldn't understand because of my blowjob skills.
	If I gave you a blowjob, you'd be like, all right, I gotta hand it to you.
	Like, you know, I almost want it.
	I need to happen so that you can disagree.
	Like, I almost need it.
	Exhaust.
	All right, right here.
	Let's go.
	I can jump into this issue.
	I'm going to pass on that, but it's just funny to me.
	You think the ultimate thing that's going to motivate a guy to be like, whoa, I can't get enough.
	Hold on, let me finish.
	I can't get enough of this girl because she just sucks dick really well.
	Like, maybe that works for a guy who's sex starved or it's difficult for him to get sex, but like most guys, like, sex is cool, but like, that's not going to be what makes us want to.
	That's not enough.
	I agree with that.
	That's not enough.
	I literally, I cook for them.
	I rub their back.
	I like them.
	I don't know.
	Why don't you say that shit?
	I mean, I do that, but I'm like, I want to fuck.
	Like, you know?
	I'm trying to get in your pants.
	Like, I'm going to rub your back.
	I'm going to cook you a meal.
	And like, you're going to give me amazing back shots and we're going to call it.
	But here's the thing, right?
	I don't care how good you are in bed, how good you suck dick.
	If you are a quarrelsome woman, if you bring conflict into my life, if you don't add value beyond just the sex that you're bringing, I don't care how fucking good you are.
	You know, I mean, I'm a good girlfriend and shit, but imagine you're like stressed out and like you're just like, oh, you're just like, oh, I'm so stressed.
	And like, your girl just gets on her knees and she's just like, baby, come here.
	You know, like, it's going to give you a nice, like.
	He's going to think about every other dick you're sucking.
	It's also short term.
	Can I say that?
	He's going to think about every other dick.
	You know, you're laughing because you're curious.
	No, it's not.
	It's really not.
	You're going to be like, thank you so much for that head.
	Like, I'm much more relaxed.
	Actually, when I'm stressed out, you don't want head when you're stressed out.
	What about, like, do you want to go on the walk on the beach and like talk about it?
	Every man wants head when they're stressed out.
	I'm sucking the stress out of you.
	Some relief is.
	You're going to get some type of testicle.
	Sex can't hold off.
	Stop.
	Sex can be a way to get stress relief.
	However, there's certainly other things.
	Like, that's not going to be like, oh, yeah, I'm going through fucking a court case.
	Thanks for sucking my dick.
	Like, I'm much better than that.
	I disagree.
	I disagree.
	I feel like, oh, like, my, you know, like, I'm going through a court case, baby, just, you know, like, let's talk about this together just before.
	Like, let me just, and then, like, after you have a good conversation, but I promise that conversation is going to go a lot more relaxed after something happened.
	Dude, I hate you don't think you think we would be, we, we would, if we were in an argument, like, if we were about to lead up to an argument and then I sucked your dick, and then you'd be like, okay, baby, let's talk.
	You know, let's do it.
	Pre-argument, I can get behind.
	I had to get point.
	I can get behind pre-argument.
	I'm 1099.
	I can get behind.
	This sounds like some Section 8 behavior.
	Confirm or deny.
	Are you on Section 8 or have you ever been on Section 8?
	Sorry, what does that mean?
	Government housing.
	No, I'm not.
	I did.
	When I got kicked out, I got food stamps for a little bit.
	That was dope.
	Okay, cool.
	All right, we have a chat here from Alex Bender the Offender first off.
	Thank you very much for the TTS.
	Much appreciated.
	Oh, Nick, can you go to Twitch really quick?
	Then I have one super chat to read.
	Yo, guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow.
	Drop us a prime sub.
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	Appreciate it.
	Guys, drop us a follow on the prime sub if you have one.
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	Thank you guys.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, we have one chat here from Alex Hard with the Australian 200.
	Do you want to read it?
	Go ahead.
	I'll let you read it.
	As a father of two boys and a husband to an amazing wife for 10 years, you ladies are so insane.
	If you were my only choices for dating, I'd put my beef in a blender before I touch any of you.
	Legend Brian, keep up the good work, exposing the crazies.
	Also, go get some.
	Wait, can I read it?
	Can we have a difference of the way I would read that?
	Yes.
	For the next chat, we can do it.
	Alex Hurt.
	Damn it, no, it was not one.
	Well, we got another one here.
	Alex Hurd, thank you very much for the Australian 200.
	Where are you from then?
	Perth, New South Wales.
	What are the other Perth, New South Wales?
	I don't know.
	Gold Coast.
	Okay, thank you, man.
	I appreciate it.
	Queensland.
	Okay, we have Chico Papa here with a 50.
	Go ahead if you want to read it.
	No, no, no.
	I was just going to compare the way she would read that one, and this is about her, and I don't want to read it, so I don't want to read that.
	All right.
	I'm taking requests.
	Depends on who you are.
	Layla, you're taking open racks.
	I'm not DJ.
	Ladies, one by one, how do you season a cast iron?
	Ooh, three course meal from scratch.
	No system.
	Any can you make?
	How much is it?
	Lemon pepper, garlic, butter.
	No, it's not seasoning.
	What's your go-to meal that you cook?
	Pasta.
	Soup.
	Eros coleche.
	What?
	Eros coleche.
	That's it, I swear.
	Okay.
	It's like our favorite, like, guilty pleasure meals.
	I know like crock pots have a bad rep. Put some chicken in the crock pot and then buffalo mozzarella.
	And you make buffalo mozzarella tacos and it's like fast food but like better and at home.
	You're gonna be such a good mom.
	It's my favorite.
	Amazing.
	You're gonna be a lovely mom.
	That's beautiful.
	I'm a potato girly.
	I'll make some mashed potatoes, veggies, steak, the whole thing.
	Dope.
	Chicken and salad.
	You want me to answer?
	We make a lot of things.
	Yeah, let me go down the list.
	A homemade Mongolian beef.
	What's your favorite one?
	That's my favorite one that she cooks.
	The chicken one was good last week.
	She makes a delicious chicken picota.
	She makes an amazing shakshuka for breakfast.
	Shakshuka.
	She does.
	Yeah, you make us.
	I've made it before.
	She makes the best meatballs in history.
	Past on recipe that she has mastered.
	She makes an amazing chicken marsala.
	She makes amazing Italian food.
	She makes homemade chicken lettuce wrappers.
	How are you going?
	This sounds good.
	You're making me hungry.
	What are you lovely couple?
	She knows her way around the kitchen.
	All right, there you have it.
	And we do have a cast iron.
	And she knows how to season it.
	All right.
	Thank you, everybody, for your soup chats and things there.
	Okay, so question for you, Rachel, right?
	That's me.
	Okay, so you know Raw Raw.
	Oh, man.
	You messaged us in your life.
	I do.
	I do.
	I know her from high school.
	Yeah.
	Should I just start talking?
	You have something you want to ask about it.
	Well, I mean, you mentioned it in your pre-show messages to us.
	That's kind of how I guess you isolated the stuff in the show.
	Okay, so Raw Raw, this was like.
	Yeah, wait.
	Give them all the rubber.
	Basically, as three or four shows go.
	I love raw raw.
	Me too, but we're going to get there.
	Hold on.
	Just had to put that out there.
	She was being pretty rude during the show, so me and her got into a little argument, let's just say.
	But did you have her?
	You dislike her?
	What?
	Okay, so I'd love the shout out of her.
	Shout out if she's watching.
	I'm sure she's not.
	Disavow.
	Strongly disavow.
	And that's okay.
	I can respect that.
	Yeah, so she is one of my, like, I would honestly call her sister more than a best friend because we don't talk as much anymore.
	But in high school, we played on Royal Saints.
	Pardon me?
	Are you a plant she sent you?
	Plant?
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	No, she's going to be, she's going to shit her pants when she sees this.
	But, anyways, no, no, no, no.
	We'll get into this.
	So, sorry, I'm not near the mic.
	No, so I knew her in high school.
	We were best friends in high school.
	She played on the same soccer team as me.
	Am I close enough?
	And that's how I met her on the same club soccer team.
	We were friends.
	We would hang out.
	We would go to concerts together.
	Okay, do you want the deeper shit about the show?
	Yes.
	No, I think that's a good thing.
	I'm going to get a soccer with her.
	Is that supposed to be rude?
	I care.
	It's just like, okay, we don't need to.
	You want the background?
	Well, wait, maybe if you want, if I'm going to talk on it and speak on it on this, I'm going to get the background.
	I am arriving.
	Am I right?
	I'm arriving.
	So she was a normal girl, and then.
	Okay, so at least you're picking up what I'm putting down.
	But also, I don't have any disrespect towards her, but on the show, actually, we were discussing this before.
	If you want to hop in on this, that's fine.
	But I think what, so what you're asking me, like, about the show, and I think I said to you, like, I have a different perspective.
	So I think it would be funny if we could discuss that on the show.
	A different perspective.
	Yeah, so like I'm not a porn star.
	I don't believe that being a porn star is any like logical job.
	I'm so sorry, ladies.
	I have respect for you.
	I'm so sorry.
	It's honestly not.
	I can't believe that.
	I'm going to be sorry.
	Okay, but that's my opinion.
	I think you guys are out of your fucking mind, but I know that you're women and you're doing whatever you need to do.
	Oh, I'm going to try to actually get it.
	No, that's bad.
	That's totally valid.
	I am out of my fucking mind, but my bank account is better than yours.
	And that's probably a fact.
	I don't know what you're doing.
	That's probably a fact.
	But is that what it comes down to, though?
	Because I'm like, my kids have to see my pussy on the internet when I had an amazing vagina.
	I'm never going to have to say that.
	I don't, that literally means nothing to me.
	Congratulations for your amazing vagina.
	What's up?
	I can truly say I'm only doing this until I'm probably about 21 and I'm going right back to Twin Peaks or Hooters.
	I absolutely love it.
	Twin Peaks, what?
	Twin Peaks is a sports bar.
	I used to work at a sports bar, two sports bars.
	Is that your professional?
	I love talking to people and telling, like, talking around a bunch of girls.
	I like that uniform too.
	It makes my body confidence go up.
	Being so small and working at Hooters and Twin Peaks, you really don't expect that from me whatsoever.
	Oh, the Hooters at Twin Peaks?
	No, Hooters and Twin Peaks are both really big sports bars.
	They're two different ones, but Twin Peaks is just more high class than Hooters.
	They don't wear spandex.
	That's kind of what I don't get is the girls that get into it kind of.
	That's how I got into OnlyFans.
	Not that I'm encouraging it, but if you're going to do fucking porn and OnlyFans, you might as well, like, if you're going to cross that threshold, you might as well be a fucking, you can't be half a gangster.
	Oh my God, do it the whole way.
	Do that anal scene.
	No, no, no, no.
	I'm not saying that, but at least like if you're going to fucking cross that threshold, make sure you make a fuck ton of money.
	Don't worry about it.
	Oh, yeah, I'm Jessica Rhodes.
	We're talking Jessica Rhodes.
	Jessica Rhodes.
	It's like tough.
	My team hasn't launched me.
	And my team hasn't even launched me.
	And I've only, yeah, I have a whole management team.
	They haven't even launched me.
	My launch is tomorrow.
	And I have already made it nearly into the top 5% in Florida.
	What is that?
	The top 5%.
	You're out of 100%.
	It's all about money.
	It's all about how much money you've made.
	It doesn't mean much.
	It doesn't mean much.
	That just means you've made a lot of money.
	And if you can do that in five days without any management.
	But doesn't, doesn't, like, with all these girls that claim top 1% OnlyFans, they have management.
	And they're all AI bots like I am.
	Doesn't that include AI?
	Every single.
	Stop.
	Stop.
	Please.
	Let me finish my.
	Okay.
	When we're talking about the percentages on OnlyFans, doesn't that include like normal people that just have an account that they're about money?
	No, it doesn't.
	No, it does not.
	It's only the money.
	You will not see it go up unless you will not see it go down.
	I don't care how much money you get.
	It's like the top five percent.
	No, it does not.
	It's all about the money.
	Your subscription goes towards the business.
	Someone put a twin.
	No, you're not everyone's net.
	She's going to put you right on that.
	I'm like in the top like point like one point.
	I used to play Hearthstone.
	Do you guys know Hearthstone?
	I played Hearthstone.
	It's Blizzard Entertainment.
	And I was like, in order to get to the top 5%, you only need to make it to like rank five or 10%.
	Which is like poverty shit.
	Like I hit legend in Hearthstone.
	Like I'm a fucking legend and like legendary ranking in Hearthstone.
	What's Hearthstone?
	That puts me in like the top 0.0001% of players when I used to play that shit.
	I don't like talking about my financials.
	I don't like bragging about it because money does not mean shit to me.
	I used to play Warlock.
	I'm only doing this to have a lot of people.
	It's so cute.
	I used to live in a car.
	I played Warlock.
	I want a financial wife.
	Pirate Warrior was like pretty cool.
	I definitely know what I need to do.
	That's cool.
	Yeah, it is.
	Okay.
	Well, I don't know where we were.
	I don't either.
	I don't know what we're doing.
	Like, all right, yeah, we're talking about Robert.
	Whatever, whatever.
	Here, moving on.
	So, you are part-time sugar baby.
	Really?
	Okay, so wait, we've got it.
	We've got to get this down.
	What does sugar baby mean before we talk about it?
	Like, getting money.
	Were you platonic?
	Or were you platonic or was it an actual like.
	No, by definition.
	Like, let's talk by definition.
	Getting money.
	Getting money for what?
	Getting money from men.
	That's it.
	I would say I'm a sugar baby.
	That's it.
	You can be platonic, which means non-sexual.
	No, sugar baby.
	Everyone's blurred the lines between prostitutes.
	And sh and be a sugar baby.
	Pardon?
	You can be a prostitute and be a sugar baby, but you can be a bad.
	Right, but let's say Taipei has blurred the lines of what that means.
	Yeah, but you can be a sugar baby without being a prostitute.
	Right.
	So are you, have you ever been a sugar baby before porn?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	And did you prostitute yourself?
	I'll tell you that.
	No.
	I didn't have sex with them.
	Okay, cool.
	Okay, cool.
	But I would hang out with them.
	I genuinely like olderman though, so it was like it was like nice for me.
	You didn't like what?
	I genuinely like olderman, so it was like nice for me.
	I liked it.
	I like oldermen too.
	I also like myself.
	So, this is a fetish where men like to take care of younger girls with financially?
	I think it's a good idea.
	Okay, so I could agree.
	Like, that would naturally be when I heard about that when I was younger.
	Yes, I absolutely agree.
	And I also blurred the line between like prostitution and receiving money.
	But I'm gonna tell you right now, this is why, this is why that was something I brought up.
	I think it's very like porn has fucked up society.
	OnlyFans has fucked up society a lot.
	I'm so sorry, ladies.
	I'm not actually sorry, but I do apologize.
	I don't want to be rude to you.
	Stop apologizing.
	Yes, but this has too.
	But I agree.
	So, but I had a conversation with someone and they were like, So you're a sugar baby.
	And I'm like, well, am I?
	And I look it up.
	I'm like, okay, so a sugar baby.
	I do, I have, and I currently do receive income from a male, one person who genuinely were friends.
	We've been friends.
	We've known each other for, I'd say, five years.
	And he gives me money, not in exchange for any sexual act, anything in between.
	But I do talk to him.
	I ask him about how to become more of an entrepreneur, how to grow my business, how to do ABC.
	And so I want to know everyone's opinion on what a sugar baby looks like.
	Because by definition, that would be me.
	Yeah, you are.
	That would be a technical person.
	But hang on.
	Are you paying him for entrepreneurial advice as a consultant, or are you simply accepting his gifts?
	He's giving you the money, right?
	Well, I mean, fuck.
	Yeah.
	It's awesome.
	So you're not paying him.
	That's not being a show.
	But it's the same way.
	That's the relationship that they have.
	You have to talk here.
	That's the relationship that they have.
	Yes.
	It would be the same way, essentially.
	Like, my father could be that figure.
	And let's say I was 25 and my dad still wanted to offer me money.
	That's obviously not what's going on.
	But it would be the same thing.
	Why do you think he's doing it?
	Because he cares about me.
	We have a genuine relationship.
	I've learned a lot from him.
	I'm grateful for him.
	It's mutually beneficial in no sexual orientation or anything like that.
	Hold on.
	Before I have you respond to that, I want to just go around the table on this.
	And we will focus a little more on the sugar baby, sugar daddy thing.
	I want to get everyone in on this.
	So have you ever had, going around the table here, a sugar daddy or had some sort of arrangement?
	And have you been on, there's a website called Seeking.
	I guess it used to be called Seeking Arrangement.
	Have you used the website?
	Have you ever had a sugar daddy?
	What, if you did, what was the arrangement that you had?
	I did.
	Like I said, like I said, when I was in nursing school, I had to stop doing my shifts and I did like OnlyFans, but I mainly did seeking arrangements.
	And like these guys, where I'm from, rent was like $500 a month.
	So when I would hang out with them, they would go get coffee with me or something and give me like $300.
	And just like, and I don't know, they just genuinely enjoyed it.
	A lot of them were divorced and just wanted a pretty girl to act like they're into them.
	And yeah, they would just pay me for dates, but I wouldn't fuck them.
	You just kind of like.
	I would fuck them.
	Like if I got to know them, I thought they were hot.
	You would fuck them for money?
	I mean, if I fucked them and like they threw me some hundreds, I'd be like, whatever.
	But like, I would think I like actually like olderman, so like I didn't fuck them.
	I didn't fuck any of them, but like there's a few of them that like were low-key kind of hot, but they didn't want a relationship like that.
	They just wanted to take me out.
	Like feel nice, I guess.
	Your base rate for like a Starbucks date would be 300.
	They would like vary, honestly.
	Like I was down for like to go.
	Like I want to say base rate, but like usually they would pay, no, not a 20.
	Not a million.
	No, but they usually would pay me around like 300-ish.
	Yeah.
	I know, like, but here I know they would pay like so much more.
	Oh, this was back in Texas?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	In like a small town, so it was kind of nice.
	No, I don't do it anymore.
	What's the most you've ever been paid for like a one-time one time?
	A guy paid me 2K just to like watch movies with him all day.
	No physical contact?
	No, no, we would like, we were like cuddling, but we weren't fucking.
	No.
	2000 to just, okay.
	And this was before you started doing OF, correct?
	No, no, no.
	I was doing OF during this, but it wasn't like popping.
	I was just doing it for rent.
	This was at 18 or 19?
	What age?
	This was like 19-ish, 18-ish.
	Maybe late 18.
	But did you start getting sugar daddies prior to doing OF?
	No, it was kind of around the same time.
	Same time, okay.
	Yeah, I think I started OF like the day I turned 18.
	So like.
	And so you had a couple 300 dates.
	Did you have any repeat customers?
	Yeah, of course.
	They would take me to lunch every week.
	Like, yeah.
	Okay, so if what's the most in total that you would say one guy spent on it?
	Oh, God.
	I don't even know.
	I don't even know.
	Like, I don't even know.
	If you had to estimate.
	I mean.
	5,000, 10,000, more than 10,000.
	Well, okay, repeat.
	I would get kind of bored.
	So I would say like maybe 5,000 for one guy.
	I think I hung out with him like six or seven times.
	And you were, did you have multiple sugar daddies at once?
	Yeah.
	What was the most amount of sugar daddies that you had at one time?
	I mean, I would just kind of go like eat lunch with whoever wanted to go like hang out with me.
	So like maybe at the like in one week, like I think I hung out with like three at the most, like a week, if I like really like had time.
	What if you had to total up everything from the multiple different sugar daddies that you saw in a month, how much are we, how much do you think you were making from the sugar daddies?
	I would say once I got to like, once I got to like four grand, like I would stop because I was in nursing school.
	So all I cared about was like rent and like paying for like stuff for my dogs and like that was it.
	So I didn't really need to go overboard.
	Like I just wanted to like pay for rent and like go to school.
	Making you said four grand, yeah.
	From your various different just from like that, yeah.
	Okay.
	It wasn't too hard to make.
	If you had wanted to make more without doing anything physical, but if you amped up how many times you would go get dinner or go get.
	I think I can make as much as I want.
	Do you think you can make more than 10,000?
	You could have made more than 10,000.
	Yeah.
	And then that was in Texas.
	You're saying here in California, you could make more than 100%.
	I can make more, but I make more doing what I do now.
	So there's going to be a meeting.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, if I wanted to, like, I would.
	Okay.
	If I didn't, I don't know.
	Would you get gifts too?
	Or just?
	Yeah, they would give me gifts, but actually, I get way more gifts now than I did.
	I'm going to have to check it out.
	You get gifts?
	Yeah, like Amazon wishlists, stuff like that.
	Yeah.
	Sure.
	Bangs, what about you?
	I've never had a sugar daddy.
	I've never been on seeking arrangements, but I might look into it now.
	You should.
	I think I should.
	Any guys in Santa Barbara area.
	But you told us a story one time about you were on your way here and then the guys offered to pay your gas.
	Oh, yeah.
	Do you have any other stories like that where just like random stranger, here you go, here's a favor.
	Here's some money type of thing.
	Yeah.
	Like if I'm like at the one or two anecdotes on that.
	Like if I'm at the farmer's market and then I see some pretty flowers or something and the guy will be like, oh just keep it.
	Oh, and then actually when I'm.
	Or the guy who works there.
	Yeah.
	When I was babysitting, I would always go into this one burrito.
	Simple.
	Okay.
	I would always go into this one burrito place and I would always have the kids in the stroller and they'd be like, oh, are these your kids?
	And I'd be like, no, I'm just the babysitter.
	And they'd be like, oh, well, you're the most beautiful babysitter I've ever seen.
	And then they would give me free burritos.
	And then they would give candy to the kids that I was taking care of.
	Yeah.
	I've gotten a lot of sweet gestures.
	I always guy.
	I feel like I radiate really good energy when I'm out in public.
	So people naturally come to me.
	And it's so weird because I feel like I almost manifest it.
	That one time when the guy paid for my gas and asked me to hang out with him and his nephew.
	I was like, oh, that would be so funny if something like that kind of happened.
	Not like if they paid for my gas, but I was kind of thinking that before I even went there.
	I was like, oh, it'd be nice if somebody paid for my gas.
	And it ended up happening.
	That's awesome.
	So I feel like I've manifested it.
	Yeah, I feel like I've manifested it.
	That's some good energy.
	What's that called?
	There's the secret.
	It's bullshit, but the manifesting.
	The law of manifestation.
	Yeah, the art of attraction or the law of attraction.
	Yeah, that's cool.
	Well, I mean, there's some like, okay, well, it's not like you're putting out things into the universe and like the universe is rewarding you.
	I could say that.
	I think it has more to do with like your mindset.
	If you have a positive affectation, that's going to manifest itself in ways that are beneficial to you.
	Like if you just, anyways.
	So you said you had a good positive disposition.
	Is that what you said?
	Yeah, I feel like when I'm out in public, I feel like I'm always smiling.
	I'm always happy.
	I'm like making conversation with people.
	Earlier you said she's against men.
	You're against men.
	When did I say that?
	Earlier in the conversation, you were like, yeah, I'm kind of against men right now.
	Watch it back.
	I remember you saying it for me.
	I remember saying it.
	I remember saying it.
	Why?
	I've just been dealing with some sassy men recently.
	Okay, we'll come back to that later.
	Okay, so no seeking.
	What about you?
	Any seeking, sugar daddies?
	Oh, yeah.
	I actually have like people.
	Were you on seeking?
	Yeah, so basically, it was actually the time in my life.
	And not too long ago, I was on seeking arrangements with her, and we were in Texas.
	And when I tell you, all I did was go on seeking arrangements and ask them to FaceTime me for two minutes.
	I got my entire trip to from my hometown to Dallas to Austin to San Antonio, back to Austin, and then San Marcos for a party, back up to Dallas for a photo shoot, and back to our hometown.
	That was a two-week trip.
	That was a sickness.
	Completely cut you put together there.
	Thank you.
	I'm a very well-spoken woman.
	But anyways, I got that entire trip paid for.
	And all I did was FaceTime and be like, hi, how are you doing?
	And then they're all from LA too, which was crazy.
	I didn't ever expect to be living out here.
	Wait, so you say you do two minutes.
	Hold on, I'll come back to this.
	I donated $100.
	Leia thinks she came from her stalker.
	But she is a layer.
	I am not a stalker.
	She's not a person.
	She less and she has issues.
	I was her sweet guy, but then she started telling me that I am a stalker because I knew things about her.
	She shared them on her line.
	No, she didn't.
	You found out her government name, and you also found out her address without it being known.
	And you send us personal gifts, and then you try to find it out through My OnlyFans.
	So if you could kindly stop, it would be well appreciated.
	I blocked you, and she did too.
	Thank you.
	Keep donating money, but don't talk.
	Just not talking about her.
	you yeah also you like if if you like how did you find out her government name If you are a, like, 60-year-old.
	Let's move on.
	Let's move on.
	Okay, so you said you do these two-minute FaceTimes.
	Yeah, and I would hang up fast, but they would have to pay me for like a certain amount of time.
	And then I'd be like, oh, sorry, I got to do this.
	And we'd be in the Airbnb already.
	And then we'd find another Airbnb.
	Like, it was honestly really, really fun.
	Well, how much would you get paid for the two-minute?
	About, like, $500.
	$500 for two-minute phone calling.
	These are men that like really, like men that lived in very, very big houses, they would try to flaunt it and they would show their closets like I cared.
	I don't care about what you do.
	I just wanted to get that trip paid for.
	Because at the time, I was young.
	So, okay, you did the two-minute phone calls for $500.
	Did you do any in-person?
	Never.
	Even just how she was doing, there wasn't any hooking up.
	It was just.
	No.
	I wouldn't.
	Would you send pictures?
	Would they ask for pictures, send me feedback on what you're doing?
	I'm just a very platonic person.
	Yeah, if you don't, if you don't make.
	No.
	I'm a very platonic person.
	I can keep it that way.
	I'm very good at making intellectual conversations, and some men actually like that.
	What's the okay, so kind of my similar line of questioning to her?
	How many most that one guy paid you total?
	Like, I'm sure you had a regular.
	No, I've gotten $2,000 from one total from everything, that whole trip.
	Like that one man that paid a ton of money.
	Wait, so there was a one-time $2,000 payment?
	It was like over the span of the couple days, and he would just keep sending it.
	So the most any one guy in total has ever sent me.
	Yeah, it would be $1,000.
	$2,000?
	$1,000.
	$1,000?
	Plural?
	No, just $1,000.
	$1,000.
	You mean at one?
	At one time.
	But I'm asking, like, total.
	Is there a guy who spent total $10,000, for example?
	Oh, Jesus, no, and I wouldn't accept that.
	I don't need that help.
	I would go get a job.
	I worked at Sonic for two years.
	I worked at a nursing home as a dishwasher for six months.
	So if a guy, hold on, just to be clear, so you don't have any problem asking for $500 for two minutes to have a FaceTime.
	But if a guy was like, I just want to give you $10K, you'd turn it down?
	Well, first of all, where are you getting that money?
	Second of all, what answers are.
	I'm going to give you a background checklist where every single dollar comes from.
	You don't know how bad money laundering can get, though, especially if you live in a ghetto city.
	Like a very, ghetto city.
	So what if it was only a $2 donation?
	Clearly it wasn't laundered?
	No, clearly not.
	They're not going to spend the $2 that they just stole from somebody on me.
	Okay, so if it's too much, there's a concern about money laundering.
	You don't take it after a certain amount because you feel bad at that point.
	I do.
	I still don't.
	I don't even ask my family for money.
	can't even ask her for gas money even though I drive her everywhere and I'm like um do you do you think I could like and she's like I'll just like stop asking me just I'll send it to you.
	All right.
	And how many sugar daddies did you have at one time?
	Two.
	That's the most.
	Really?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	No.
	Were you on seeking?
	Has a guy ever just like.
	I hate to be boring, but like, no, I don't.
	That's okay.
	That's fine.
	No, it's not boring.
	It's very respectable.
	It's amazing.
	Lord.
	It's not boring.
	I wish that could have been like.
	I never have.
	I haven't really had the thought.
	Has a guy ever simped for you?
	How about that?
	Yes.
	Define, like, who do you mean?
	Like.
	Maybe one of these first dates where you're kind of on the fence about the guy and he takes you to like go get real expensive sushi or some shit like that.
	Spends a lot of money on the first date.
	No, honestly, but I think it's also because, like, I don't know.
	I started dating Jared when I was very young, so.
	Is Nicole?
	It wasn't like the age of 10.
	Her Amazon wish list with her real name might hold her to change it.
	Her address went live and they showed her apartment complex while she was drunk.
	I asked her before I sent a personal gift on her of unless she was not the person who responded to her of.
	Our apartment complex actually doesn't have the name of it on it.
	Which is crazy.
	Okay, all right.
	There you have it.
	Sorry.
	Kind of getting a little sussed out by it.
	I told you.
	Yeah.
	No sugar daddies.
	I didn't even know that website.
	No, I haven't had anything like that.
	Have you ever had a guy simp for you?
	I mean, yeah, like take me out to dinner and stuff, but like I've never, they've never given me money or gifts, like anything expensive.
	No.
	Any gift worth having?
	No, no, I'm kidding.
	Boring.
	Me?
	What do we, what do we have?
	Billy Rhett.
	Oh.
	Oh, you didn't answer?
	Well, the whole thing is about her.
	Right.
	How about me?
	Wait.
	The sugar baby.
	The whole sugar baby.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, but I have a very definitive line.
	I think it's very misconstrued.
	So, but did he was just asking all the girls about their experience?
	Like theirs with it.
	How much, so you're, okay, you would meet them in person or like.
	Yeah, I met him strictly through business.
	Strictly through business.
	And there's no sexual anything involved.
	It's literally a man.
	Yes, he is older than me.
	Yes, he owns a company and gives me advice on business, on when I'm having a bad day, if we chat.
	It's almost like an uncle and that still supports me, just in some ways financially.
	It's not all the time.
	It's not because I put out.
	It's not because I do anything.
	It's genuinely it.
	It's just a good guy.
	Wait, so a couple questions.
	I'm just calling that sugar babying then.
	But by definition, that is a sugar baby.
	Yeah, by definition, it is.
	I just think he's a very good guy.
	I'm still confused.
	Is it just a nice guy who you met who then decided he'd like to help you out with things and when you show up, he pays for things?
	Or is this a stated, official sugar daddy-sugar baby relationship?
	See, I don't know because by definition, essentially, it would be sugar baby.
	If you look online, it would be.
	But it's someone that I met through business.
	And I've conversed with them, I've talked to them, we built a relationship, and eventually they were like, I would like to help you chase your dreams or do the things that you want to do or get these experience for, like, he paid for a seminar for me that I was like, this would be something that would be beneficial for me and work.
	If he decided not to, it wasn't arranged.
	Nobody planned it.
	If he decided to not have these very intellectual conversations with you or with him and you decided to not be there as much for him, would he still be offering this money?
	If I decided not to.
	Not to be as close.
	Not to be as close.
	I don't know because that would be dependent on the relationship and that's not how the relationship is.
	It's like your good friendship, essentially.
	It's just like a platonic relationship and it's not really sugar babying at that point.
	He's a really good guy.
	By definition, it is.
	But I don't think I'm doing anything.
	By definition, if it's a if I don't think trying to categorize whether you're a sugar baby or not is really the ultimate thing here.
	What is it?
	Ultimately, you have a guy who's paying you money.
	Yes.
	How long have you known him for?
	How long has he been paying you money?
	Oh, it's got to be four and a half years now.
	4.5 years.
	And is it like?
	Well, it's not.
	Let's give or take.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Is he and his payments have been like, what, monthly or?
	No.
	No, just here and there.
	Yeah, dependent on where I'm at, where I'm at, and what I need, and what he thinks I need.
	That's sweet.
	He's literally like a father, but isn't related to me in any way, and looks out for me, makes sure I'm okay, and says, if you need money.
	Here's a question.
	Yeah.
	From the moment that you met him, how soon after meeting him did he start paying you money?
	Is it immediately?
	Like nine months?
	Nine months.
	That's crazy.
	So for that first month period, what was the context of the association?
	I asked him all the questions.
	This person owns a business that I won't name, but a very successful business.
	And I went to school for business, so I would ask him questions.
	I would ask him all sorts of things about business and what I should do, what I could do, his past experiences.
	And this person was kind enough to take me under his wing and help me.
	Does it occur to you that he has any romantic interest in you?
	Is it possible?
	I kind of go out on a limb and say that, like, I think.
	Has he expressed it?
	a lot of that i would no he has not expressed it but i'm gonna i mean i don't think he looks at me and it's like you opportunity He would probably take it up.
	But I, yeah, but I think he knows where I stand.
	And I have the boundaries, and I'm like, it's not going to work.
	Are you sure?
	You're double my A. If you're going to speak, you got to do it into the mic.
	So, okay, you've known him for 4.5 years.
	It started out as friends.
	He, from time to time, have you ever requested money?
	Mmm.
	What does request look like?
	Let's be real.
	I don't know.
	Hey, can you spawn me 300?
	No.
	So every time he just.
	No.
	He's just like, so okay, just to.
	He's paid you multiple times.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	So he's just like, hey, can I give you money?
	No.
	Not at all.
	Go ahead.
	Was it more like there has to be an exchange of, I'll let you come in here in just a sec, Billy.
	You have to give him your Venmo, how does he pay you, cash app, Venmo?
	Zell, direct deposit.
	Okay, so somehow that conversation had to transpire.
	Yeah, so that doesn't just magically let her go and then we'll click on it.
	A couple things.
	It was probably, if I'm guessing correctly, it was probably along the lines of you were saying that maybe you were going through a time where you were struggling a bit and he offered to help.
	Was it an offering to help based on your situation?
	Literally, no.
	Literally, well, let's be clear.
	So financially struggling, no.
	But with, okay, if we rewind, my parents got divorced.
	I was in college.
	I moved to online college just because I could then be there physically, emotionally to support my mom.
	And he was kind of there through that time.
	And then I was like, I have dreams, like, I have goals.
	I was in, I went to the University of Hawaii.
	I was going to school.
	I moved back.
	Parents got divorced.
	I moved from LA back there to help my mom out and be of support.
	And then he was, you know, I was like, well, I can't do ABC anymore.
	Not because I was financially struggling.
	I mean, it's always been fine.
	But he was just like, well, can I do this for you?
	And I'm like, absolutely.
	Like you were saying, if someone's going to offer you 500 versus 10 grand, I'm going to take the 5 or the 10.
	Like, I'm not going to.
	So what is his situation like?
	Does he have family, kids?
	What is his?
	He has a business, and I don't want to speak on that because I feel like it could.
	Here, okay, I have a couple more questions.
	When he does pay you, when he does pay you typically, how much does he pay you?
	Various range.
	Depends.
	Do you want to know like the least and the most?
	Sure.
	So like 200 to like 4 grand at once.
	Okay.
	If you had to estimate, I don't know if you keep track of this, how much total has he paid you?
	I don't know.
	More than I would keep track of at this point.
	How much has he paid you this year?
	I don't want to answer it.
	Sorry.
	But a good amount, a good amount of money.
	$10,000?
	More than $10,000 for sure.
	This year.
	This year.
	Okay, total, do you think it's more than $100,000?
	No.
	No chance.
	Do you think it's between $50,000 and $100,000?
	You're really going to work in that.
	No, I'm not going to.
	Okay.
	Devil's advocate here.
	Well, do you think it's in that range?
	I'm going to stop there.
	That's all I have to say.
	I'm not going to say anything else.
	But this year it's more than $10,000, correct?
	Yes.
	Okay, so we can, okay, you've known him for four points.
	Let's say it's over $50,000.
	Let's just say that.
	I'm just going to assume that.
	Why would we say something?
	Yes, please.
	So typically what I see with men, and how old is he roughly?
	I also don't want to say that.
	It's not fair to him.
	I'll talk on my established.
	He seems to have a good business.
	I'm guessing, I just want to say in their 40s.
	So I'm guessing this man probably had a family at some point in his life.
	I don't know if they're still together, but if you're scared to speak on it, I'm going to guess that.
	He never had a family.
	He never had kids.
	I'm going to say that.
	Okay, so there was a relationship at some point in his life.
	And the fact that he is giving you money to kind of listen to him talk about things that he's passionate about leads me to believe that the woman in his life was not interested in hearing him out ever.
	So he's willing to give money just to have somebody to have somebody listen to him.
	And that's a common theme I see amongst a lot of men.
	And it's really sad.
	Loneliness.
	A lot.
	Yeah, it's lonely.
	Wait, am I a victim?
	Do I play the victim role or am I like, I'm extremely privileged.
	But so my thought, and I didn't want to comment until everybody answered on this, but this is exactly how women have dating on easy mode.
	No, no, no.
	That's right.
	No, you guys have dating and, frankly, life on easy mode.
	We do.
	Yes, I agree.
	You guys don't have to sleep with any of these men, and they're throwing thousands of dollars at you every month just for existing.
	Now, there are sugar mamas.
	There are sugar mamas out there, but it's exceedingly rare.
	And I doubt that they are supporting their sugar babies to the same degree as how a lot of men will support their sugar babies.
	I almost feel like sugar mamas probably do it in almost a begrudging way.
	Like, it's a begrudging dynamic.
	I can agree with that.
	I can never see myself doing that.
	I would never either.
	In any case, y'all have dating and honestly, life on easy mode because I think it's just like, but I also have a lot of respect for you.
	We have dating on easy mode.
	Yeah, women have.
	I mean, we do.
	We do.
	You have to admit that.
	You have to admit it's easier for us to do that.
	Thanks for saying it out loud.
	What do you mean?
	Wait, let them go.
	Guys, please stop the crosstalk.
	Go ahead.
	I was going to say, I just don't see it really for dating, to be honest.
	Like, are you saying, like, we can get any guy we want?
	Is that what?
	That's not what I'm saying.
	Okay, then what are you saying?
	Well, I'll explain it after she goes.
	Go ahead.
	What did you have to say?
	Yeah, you're saying that we have life and dating on easy mode.
	We really do.
	I could be scrubbing dishes again.
	But no, I sit in my bed.
	Yes.
	All right, there we go.
	Okay, all right.
	She agrees with me, I guess.
	Yeah, y'all kind of got 100%.
	Wow, okay, I'm surprised.
	Thank you for validating my recruit mode difficulty on.
	Okay.
	So, okay, so you asked why it's yeah, like elaborate a little bit more on the dating.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Have you ever, you were in, you're currently in college, right?
	Yeah.
	Think about high school.
	So I want everybody here to picture.
	I'm sure all of you have had a situation where you've had a group project, right?
	Remember, like group projects in high school or group projects in college?
	Now, I don't know where you fell in that group dynamic, but typically in those scenarios, there's going to be one, two, let's say it's four people, right?
	There's going to be at least one person that doesn't do jack shit in the group project.
	You know what I'm talking about?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	That's kind of like how dating is between men and women.
	Y'all don't do jack shit.
	I can agree with that.
	At the beginning, right?
	I think later on, we audition first.
	Yeah.
	We basically have to carry.
	And this is also, I mean, I've made this video game analogy.
	There's a term in video games called carrying, where one person sucks at the video game.
	You backpack them.
	Yeah, you backpack them.
	You're like, you're carrying them to the victory.
	I think that's kind of how dating is typically because men, we have to, okay, we have to take all the initiative.
	The burden of performance is on us.
	The burden of initiative is on us.
	We have to, if we're meeting, let's say we're on a dating app, we have to send the first message.
	We have to plan the first date.
	We have to set up the date.
	We have to pay for the date.
	We have to make it.
	Not bumble.
	Well, okay, the thing with bumble, though, the thing with bumble, it's a very token level of initiative because the women will send the first message.
	And typically, it's not a very, it's, hey, it's a verbal point.
	They'll say, hey, it's such a, like, bumble is such a joke because the girl says hey, and then they immediately shift the conversational duty and burden onto the man.
	Because if I just respond, hey, back.
	Ew, that's it.
	Like, the girl's not going to, even though she has to send the first message, it's, again, it's very token.
	So what you just said, you just keep saying, sorry, you go ahead.
	Oh, well, okay, and then just to finish.
	But this is her point, so I want to let her go.
	Just to finish off my point really quick.
	And then when it comes to moving things forward, the guy's going to have to close the physical distance gap.
	He's going to have to go for the first kiss.
	He's going to have to move things forward sexually.
	He's going to, okay, how can I smoothly, like, hey, you want to come back to my place?
	That sort of thing.
	Escalate things towards sex.
	Oh, if she's not down, okay, cool.
	And then wash, rinse, repeat, second date, move things forward sexually.
	And, you know, depends on how things go, but he's going to have to initiate on all those steps.
	It's kind of a little different, though.
	With my first boyfriend, I made the move on him.
	I kissed him because he was a little bit of a weenie.
	So I feel like I had to make the first move forward.
	I would say actually that, and this is interesting.
	And I don't know, maybe some people might disagree.
	Hold on, let me just finish really quick on this point.
	Is I think with like younger relationships, when the obviously the girl's going to encounter a guy who he himself, like we're talking like high school relationships or maybe like college, like first, first encounter with dating, sex relationships, the guy might be a little, he doesn't have the requisite experience.
	If you're dating a guy who's your age, he might not have the requisite experience of having dated other women.
	So I think in those scenarios, the women might actually take a bit more initiative.
	But once I think you've had enough experience, like women really aren't initiating.
	I feel like I am.
	You just don't know that.
	Okay.
	What you just said about, I'm trying to remember exactly what it was.
	Oh, you said you're going to say hey, if he says hey back.
	Well, especially if there is, you have your little like cards in there that describe you.
	No, I understand.
	Like one of those.
	And he has them too.
	And you didn't use those.
	So here's what I'm saying.
	No, I don't say hey, though.
	You said hey.
	So whatever it is, it's a simple hello.
	You are now permitted to talk to me.
	Okay.
	And now the man has to come up with something else.
	If it's not creative, if it's not stimulating, you're like, ew, no.
	Because you have a million other options waiting for you right there on the app.
	The guy sends hey, you send hey back.
	He's going to be like, oh, okay.
	So like, what do I say now?
	He's still thinking about what's next in the conversation.
	He's not icked out by the fact that you just said hey back.
	He expects it because he knows that he has to be the one who's impressing you up front.
	This is why we're saying early in the dating process, women have it on easy mode.
	We have to do everything.
	Would you guys wait?
	I completely agree.
	I'm on that exact same page, but would you guys have it any other way?
	Like if you could, what way would it be?
	Well, it's kind of.
	You kind of like it.
	That's kind of your vibe.
	Well, I actually think, so the leverage that women have early on is insane.
	Okay.
	So, I mean, would I have it any other way?
	Just so basically, like if we were to flip roles, like women just wanted to flip it.
	No, do you just want it like even playing fields?
	So like I could ask you to go to bed or you could ask me or like I could ask you to dinner and spend a bunch of money and that would be like status quo or what?
	Like what way would you guys have it?
	I don't know because I agree with what you're saying, but like what's your mindset on it?
	I'll let you come in and just let me just respond to her.
	So my view is, is that you take an average woman.
	So women have far greater sexual optionality than men do.
	Correct.
	So you can take basically like an average or even below average looking girl and she has the equivalent sexual optionality of an A-list celebrity.
	So I'm talking musician.
	I'm talking actor.
	I'm talking professional athlete.
	has been proven in like like experiments on dating apps by the way i think it's also just like common sense like any i want to Well, any girl can, if you were so inclined, you could hop on a dating app.
	You could go to the club.
	You could go to a bar.
	You could go to the gas station.
	And like, fuck a dude.
	You could fuck three dudes a day.
	The amount of men who could sleep with three new women a day is like, it's not even 1%.
	It's like 0.01%.
	So an average woman has the sexual optionality of, again, like the top tier of men, but you just have to basically exist.
	So brilliant.
	I know, but how would you have it?
	Okay, those are the stats.
	I can respect those.
	How would you have it?
	What would be your?
	I'll tell you exactly how we would have it.
	I want to hear both of you.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	It's not that we would want it to be different.
	We just want women to be completely comprehending the fact that that is the reality.
	A lot of girls don't see it as like men are putting in all this work.
	Okay.
	Men see it as, they see it as like, oh, oh, you like paid for my meal.
	Oh, you set the date you're doing.
	Like you should do that.
	You're doing the bare minimum.
	Like that's just the bare minimum.
	You're always looking for more.
	This is not a matter of doing more or less.
	It's a matter of men and women both understanding that we as humans have our own mating dance.
	Yes.
	Like this is just how it works.
	So, but Brian always talks about how men should not be paying on dates nowadays.
	You know why we're exception's.
	But for the most part, one of the big reasons why we don't do it is one, because of the abundance, not just the abundance of options that women have, but the access to those options that they now have.
	Absolutely.
	And on top of that, the fact that you now make money.
	In fact, young women, which are the ones who are mostly in the dating market, most older women are out of the dating market.
	Minus 100%.
	You guys are matching men or outperforming men in most markets in terms of your income.
	So why should we have to pay for the date and toll out a bunch of money when you guys could do that?
	Why should we have to?
	Good point.
	You're saying because it's in your male masculine, correct?
	There are a lot of ways that a man can court you without having to spend a bunch of money.
	No, I agree.
	So what is the answer to the question you're asking?
	Or is it rhetorical?
	Well, no, no.
	What you said was, would you have it any other way?
	What I would say is women need to just see this as this is the way that it works and they need to just accept the fact that like this, that like this is an audition for men and we are sitting.
	We know, we know that we are sitting amongst a bunch of different options.
	We know that we're not the only guy that you're talking to right now.
	We know that.
	So if we're not going to be going all in on the first date or all in on the second date, there's a reason for that.
	We're trying to play this game of like we're doing just a little bit of the beginning of the mating dance to see if you return the favor of that mating dance.
	But most women won't return the favor because they think that, oh, he just did the bare minimum.
	He didn't go above and beyond.
	He didn't make himself stand out.
	There's an early part.
	There's a very early part of that attraction mating dance that just needs to be accepted.
	I think that's right.
	I think is what I'm literally hearing is right now men are waiting.
	Women are in this mindset that they need the dates paid for.
	Like I kind of said this earlier, they need all the dates paid for.
	They need everything given to them and the bare minimum is literally being picked up.
	Like, no, if a man doesn't have a car, he can't pick you up.
	Don't be dumb.
	But at the same time, I think men are waiting for women to be out of that cliche.
	Like, you have to do all this for me because in the 19 or in the 1870s, in 13th colony, New England, that's how it was.
	Like, no.
	Wait, which colony?
	Like, the 13th colonies, like, New England type, like, shit.
	Like, that's how it was.
	Like, the men did everything.
	Colonies.
	Like, the men did everything, and now they're expecting, like, that's why they expect to do so much for women.
	Mayflower.
	That's why they feel so obligated to do so much for women.
	And now they're trying to find someone who.
	Where did they land?
	Where did they land?
	Plymouth Rock.
	New York.
	Dude, shit.
	Hookup culture was fucking crazy during Plymouth Rock days.
	Dude, Mormonism was like the shit.
	God knows.
	These bitches.
	They were loving.
	Plymouth Rock days were fucking.
	Y'all talk about cheating until y'all meet Mormons.
	Until y'all meet the old Mormons.
	Hey, I will not stand for the Mormon disrespect.
	Thank you.
	I love Mormons.
	I went to a private school with a bunch of them.
	But I mean, some, that's a different type of Christianity.
	If those men can have 13 wives.
	We don't do that anymore.
	Wait, what?
	I'm so confused.
	We don't do that anymore.
	That was old, old days.
	Yeah, I know.
	I said old Mormonism.
	I said that.
	Oh, we don't do that anymore, though.
	But it was a thing, and it was normalized.
	Wait, what was a thing?
	They would have multiple wives.
	Men could have multiple wives?
	Yes.
	Not anymore.
	They could, but they don't anymore.
	Yeah, that's not true.
	Some of them do.
	Yes, it is in Mormonism.
	Yeah, it is.
	Oh, okay, you're saying Mormonism.
	Not Christianity, like not fully.
	Well, first off, Mormonism did not start in Plymouth Rock.
	It started in like, what, the 1700s in Utah?
	Yes.
	Was it the 1800s or the 1700s?
	I think it's 1700.
	Or is it the 16th?
	I don't know the history of Mormonism.
	Yeah, I don't get into it like that.
	But in broader history, I mean, most of the Western world was Christian, and you cannot have multiple wives in Christianity.
	I know, but Mormons can classify themselves as Christians as well.
	Right, but Mormonism is a much newer invention than Christianity.
	Yes, it is.
	But it conceived from Christianity.
	But in Christianity, you can't have multiple wives.
	Well, I don't know why Mormons existed at that point if you're saying that.
	So now, there we go.
	No, no.
	It's something you really can't debate.
	I'm so confused.
	It's something you really can't debate.
	I'm so confused.
	I don't need good times.
	Soaking.
	Good times.
	Hey, it is good times.
	Don't love it till you try it.
	It's kind of funny.
	Okay, this girl.
	So, okay, the original point, you guys were all talking about sugar daddies.
	And I said, hey, y'all have dating life on easy mode opportunities just for existing.
	So disagree.
	You're right.
	I know you're wrong.
	Okay, I'll make further points.
	I think 100% is much easier for women than men, and we can get behind it.
	It is easy.
	I could tackle this from a couple different perspectives.
	Maybe I just like lame dudes.
	I don't know.
	Okay, if we're at a concert and he wants to get backstage or I want to get backstage, you're getting backstage.
	No, that's a fair point.
	What about the rejection?
	Like, so when it comes to something that's difficult, wouldn't we all agree, like, if you have a higher likelihood of dealing with, like, nobody likes dealing with rejection, right?
	Who gets rejected more, men or women?
	Men, men, men, men.
	Like, more often than not, are you rejecting men or are they rejecting you?
	We're rejecting men.
	Sometimes women don't understand that they're getting rejected.
	They keep trying and trying, and the men keep speaking along the way.
	Okay, so that is what we're doing.
	I get rejected all the time.
	Men get rejected on the front end.
	Women will typically get rejected on the front end.
	And they don't understand because they don't accept no as an answer.
	In any case, though, men face more, I would say men face more rejection than do women.
	And you can't fathom it.
	And this all comes down to feminism and how men have been projected as like these negative images in our lives and that men are like some evil source of like, I don't know, and they're so aggressive and they're mean.
	And this is what it comes down to, this whole stigma.
	But if you're like a logical human who can like think with both sides of their brain, like you, you know that that's not true.
	And like men shouldn't be, but they are naturally rejected more.
	So, to add to her point, not really to add to her point, but as a feminist, I don't think of men as evil or anything.
	I actually love men.
	Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Earlier on in the conversation, you said, I am against men.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, just to piss you guys off.
	So what does feminism mean to you?
	What does it mean back to you?
	Equality, equity.
	I'd say actually women make more money than men.
	Everybody more equality.
	Because everybody has...
	No, I'm just saying that some people... Some people...
	You finish, please.
	Some people have different needs, and I think we need to be able to provide for the people that have different needs.
	That's right.
	I think we need affirmative action for college so that we can equalize because there's way more women going to college and getting degrees.
	So I think we need affirmative action for men when it comes to university enrollment.
	Yeah.
	And degrees.
	That's actually statistically very true.
	I've never read about that too.
	I think in certain fields, there needs to be more women representation.
	Like tech.
	I would say tech is one of them.
	Women make more money than men.
	That's what I still want to admit to it.
	I think that's when girls need to grow up seeing women in tech, women in STEM.
	I agree in that, but I do agree that men aren't getting college degrees as much as women.
	But when it comes to more women in tech, could it also be the case that just when it comes to interests, women are just genuinely less interested in those kind of fields?
	I would say absolutely, but I've noticed the ones that do are very discouraged.
	And I only knew that.
	I only know that because I was in women in business that you see in that case.
	I'm not saying STEM.
	That's part of STEM.
	I feel like they do.
	They will tend to hire men more because they are like, oh, well, they're seen as like, oh, men are more reliable.
	men are like there's they don't see that they see your worth ethic they see the worth ethic that you put in on it saying that there's like i'm not saying they are but let me just put I'm just saying.
	No, I'm not saying that.
	Are men more reliable?
	Just putting that question out there.
	I don't know.
	Do you feel like you don't have your control?
	I've had some men let me down, but I would say just like out there, they're like, oh, men are more reliable.
	They're less emotional.
	There's like this whole thing.
	They're more logical.
	They're more logical.
	I'm not purely on statistics here without making any definitive statements.
	They've analyzed the data on this.
	Men are much less likely to take sick days.
	Excuse me.
	They're much less likely to take sick days.
	They're much less likely to take leave.
	They're much less likely to be late for work.
	Maternity leave.
	I mean, think about that.
	Women want to have babies.
	So without making a definitive statement, but it does seem to be the case that men are less likely to take sick leave.
	Anyways.
	And personal days.
	Just saying.
	Do you think feminists?
	When you're doing that.
	I love men.
	I respect men.
	I don't think of myself as, what is it, superior to men?
	Let's be honest.
	I don't.
	So what does that mean?
	What does it mean that you're female?
	To me, literally equality.
	That's what I want.
	I want equality.
	Okay, wait, so do you not, do you not, do you not feel like, do you not feel like, I personally, I feel like I have the exact same opportunity as any man.
	And genuinely, as a female, I probably have a little more of an advantage simply by being.
	Congratulations, we live in America.
	So wait, so then what do you mean feminism, equality?
	I can vote.
	I can do all of the things.
	What do you mean that's a thing whenever we talk about slaves and stuff in other countries?
	And I, you know, I. In other countries, you just said we're in America.
	Yeah, I said, congratulations.
	We're in America.
	We have those privileges.
	And a lot of countries, in a lot of third world countries, there isn't.
	So go fight in those countries.
	Girl, I wouldn't be able to do it.
	Enlist in the war.
	Like we force men to do, but women don't do it.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Women aren't even allowed to be on the front line in the first place.
	Yeah, they actually are.
	That's not true.
	That's not true at all.
	My whole complexity.
	I came from a very military family.
	Every single adult in my family, even my brothers, are in the military.
	And I could tell you right now, all the women they love are frontline women.
	So it is.
	So you can be a frontline intervention.
	Yes, you can.
	It depends on what you do.
	You decide to and you qualify.
	The only reason why women are deemed not reliable is because those women who are getting deemed not reliable showed up to that interview unreliable.
	They showed up and just completely bombed that interview.
	They blew it.
	Yeah, if your first impression was so bad enough to where you think that you're not going to make enough money to get this role or anything, you did poorly.
	Here's my issue with what you're saying.
	You're saying that people are denying women jobs because of things that they're thinking about women.
	It's a completely unfalsifiable claim.
	It could happen to a person.
	How can you prove that?
	How can you possibly prove that about the person doing the interview?
	It's completely unfalsifiable.
	Let's look at that.
	And you can sue every company that does that.
	He made a decision to hire someone who wasn't her.
	The reasons?
	He thought they were more qualified for the position.
	Not because she's a female.
	Because people are interested in making money when they hire somebody.
	They're going to hire the best personality.
	I'm also a feminist because.
	Anyways, I'm also a feminist because I think that we need what's it called?
	We need.
	What do we need?
	Tell us what we need.
	We need help.
	What do you need help?
	Because there's laws going against, first off, abortion.
	I don't want to bring up abortion because I don't want to get into that.
	But I think I'm a feminist for that reason.
	I'm a feminist because I'm afraid of the fact that.
	I've had three abortions in my life, and in no way, shape, or form do I feel like I'm in a female.
	Go to a different state or that we don't have enough money.
	I never said we were in.
	But feminism is advocating specifically heavily for female rights.
	Can we do a contest at the table to see who's had the most abortions?
	Can we not do that, actually?
	my bad yeah i mean i just think there's a lot of i thought you were there's also a lot of There's also a lot of violence against the people.
	That's not a feminist quality.
	It's just something that happens.
	That's crazy.
	That's crazy to say that.
	Do you think that's a flags, dude?
	No, that is.
	No, no, no.
	I'm just curious.
	Okay, run it back.
	Shut that down really quick.
	Anyways, there's a lot of violence against women.
	Am I being aware of that?
	There's a lot of violence against women.
	There's more violence against men.
	There's more violence against women.
	There's a lot of violence.
	No, there is no less women.
	Statistically speaking, men are way more likely to be a person.
	Yeah, they're just not speaking.
	You know what women are more likely to be?
	They're more likely to be stalked.
	No, they're more likely to be.
	They're more likely to be SA'd and they're more likely to be stalked.
	And they're only more likely to be SA'd if you don't count the prison population.
	Okay?
	Statistically.
	So there are some things where women are more likely to be the menu.
	Men do not speak up about those things because then it makes them feel weird.
	And because they cover oppression, it's other men.
	It's other men that are making other men feel like they can't.
	It's other men.
	It is.
	It's toxic masculinity.
	Why don't men other men want to speak up?
	Because they're afraid of getting judged by other men.
	My mom used to be a menu.
	Yes, they are.
	Yes, they are.
	They're afraid of being judged by women.
	Exactly.
	No.
	I would never judge a man if he got assaulted.
	He got assaulted, came back crying to you.
	No, how would you say that?
	Yeah, you would never judge him.
	I didn't judge him.
	I've been in that position.
	I've been in that position where I've been assaulted.
	I've been in that position.
	Why would I ever go and turn the tables and be like, you're whatever, you're worthless.
	You deserve that.
	Why would I ever do that?
	I'd be there.
	I'm a good person.
	And for you to make that assumption is fucking terrible.
	This is the thing where she's not going to be afraid of you.
	You do not make that assumption.
	No, again, remember my thing earlier about how women are depending on my own benevolence to ignore the point.
	This is what they do.
	This is what they do.
	No, how dare you make that assumption about me.
	How dare you?
	You deserve a lot more.
	I'm so sorry about that.
	But wait a second.
	What are you saying?
	But what are you assuming?
	You're assuming that I don't care.
	That I'm saying you don't care about that person?
	No, I'm saying you're unattractive.
	You would be unattracted to him as a man.
	Yes.
	No, I wouldn't.
	And here you go making another assumption, sir.
	World only under assumption.
	Basically, basically.
	I would never.
	I would never.
	Excuse me, you're interrupting a woman, you sexist.
	Hold on.
	Okay, we're okay.
	So.
	She's saying it's basically women are getting more abuse than men.
	My mother used to beat me every day until I was removed from the home.
	So women do cause a lot of assault.
	They really do.
	They do.
	And blaming it straight on men, saying that women have no rights.
	Well, then why didn't my mom do it?
	Do you know which children are most likely to be abused?
	Single mother children.
	She wasn't a single mom.
	My dad just had PTSD.
	Single motherhood child abuse is actually happens at a higher rate than two-family households.
	I'm the seventh kid.
	And single-father households.
	It's where most of the child abuse occurs.
	Yeah, but I mean, just saying that pushing all these problems onto men, that's actually what's wrong with society.
	I think everything is an equal thing.
	Everything should be completely equal.
	We have every single right that a man does.
	And logistically, we are getting paid like 49 cents more than men in every single job.
	Actually, like office jobs.
	We are getting paid more than men.
	We have so many rights because we fought for so long.
	They really are.
	Like, and I don't want to say that.
	I don't think that there's a wage gap, but I don't know.
	We have the spreadsheet.
	There is.
	We have the spreadsheet on the phone.
	No, ready for this?
	That's true.
	That's true.
	This is a really good stat.
	We talked about this at Denton.
	Okay, so the actual wage gap, the actual wage gap in, I believe it's North America.
	It's either North America or the United States, as of 2020, is 17 cents.
	Women make 83 cents to that of men.
	That's all men and women.
	If you look specifically at men and women under the age of 30 who work full-time jobs, it's 93 cents.
	And in most of the major metro areas where women are complaining the loudest about the wage day outgame.
	In New York, women, I believe, make 101%.
	They're complaining about working 12-hour shifts.
	That is insane.
	But my point is, the wage gap, when we say the wage gap is a myth, that whole thing, first of all, there's a reason the wage gap exists, and there's also a reason why it gets higher the older you get.
	Because women decide to do things like take leave to take care of children.
	You can't take three, four years off from work, come back, and be like, I can't believe the guy who was making the same amount as me four years ago is now making more than me.
	Like, you can't make that complaint.
	You can't do that.
	So, most of the women who complain the loudest, which are young females in major metro areas, they have literally nothing to complain about.
	Nothing.
	To your point, they're exactly, they have the same degree of equality as men do.
	They have access to everything that men do.
	Everything that you say about what men think about women or what hiringers think about women is what you think they think.
	It's completely unfalsifiable.
	I completely agree with all of you.
	And by the way, I know I'm kind of like shouting this at you.
	I'm shouting out of agreement.
	It's just.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, I'm just a little bit more.
	I'm very nonchalant.
	But it's feminism.
	I don't like saying that's a bad topic.
	I mean, if you're a feminist, you're a feminist.
	You just obviously don't realize how much far we've gotten in America.
	That's a stupid story.
	Or how they frame feminism.
	I'm talking to a woman right here, okay?
	Can you stop being sexist?
	I'm not a woman.
	What if I have a penis right now?
	Then literally, you're just, I would ask you to get therapy because all of that in between is fine.
	But when you are biologically born with a vagina, you're a girl.
	And when you're born with a born with a vagina, I'm adding a lot of menace.
	Oh, boy.
	I'm not going to be able to do this.
	Whoa, whoa.
	Wait, what?
	That's fucking transphobic as fuck.
	Wait, what?
	Doing her best to do that.
	Wait, wait.
	Wait, who?
	What did you say?
	She said she didn't like transphobic comments.
	No, that's not what she said.
	She said that she hates her.
	No, she said, no, you're biologically born with a penis.
	If you're biologically born with a penis, you're a man.
	God, she made like a bad person.
	I don't believe that too.
	She was a man.
	No, no, no.
	I'm sorry, Brian.
	No, no, dude, she's gone.
	Just stay, just stay, just stay.
	No, but this is not going to be like this one, I'll go like that.
	No, just the show must go on.
	The show must go on.
	She's a girl.
	No, she's good.
	She's good.
	The show must go on.
	She blew off.
	She blew up.
	Don't trip.
	She's good.
	She's good.
	Trust.
	Yo, Madison, you're going to sit right here, okay?
	Okay.
	You're going to sit over there.
	No, she's just doing her best.
	She was doing her best Kiko impression.
	Am I not allowed to sit there because of my nipples?
	What?
	No.
	Can I not sit next to my roommate?
	I'm kidding.
	I don't care.
	Actually, you know what?
	Yeah, you scoot over.
	Madison will sit there.
	Put the seat boosters over there.
	I mean.
	All right.
	That was our first bangs walk off.
	I don't even, I wasn't really like super tuned in.
	Dude, I was just silly.
	You told her not to not be tuned in.
	Come on.
	She made like a trans statement, and like, I get it.
	Like, you know, people get touchy on some topics like that.
	I still think it was funny.
	Oh, wait, first opinion, right?
	She was the one who was like, it's okay to have your opinion.
	I'm like, I don't know.
	But I get what you're saying.
	I'm not arguing.
	Some people just.
	Stop, stop.
	One at a time.
	Please.
	I've repeated myself multiple times on this.
	One person speaking at a time.
	It's very simple.
	Go ahead.
	No, I feel like there's just a certain.
	I'm not this way, but I respect people that are this way.
	They just believe in things really strongly and get emotional and upset.
	And I think that she probably just, you know, the worst words about trans.
	I was drawing, but, you know.
	I am so completely and utterly repulsed by the way that you live your life.
	It's so hot.
	Did I storm off the set?
	No, but did I storm off the set?
	Are you like trying to make me horny right now?
	No, but I like it.
	Be careful.
	Be careful.
	She's been soaking for you.
	The seat is getting kind of.
	Okay, good to know.
	We're going to have to disinfect that.
	What happened while I was gone?
	Were you not at the table?
	No, I was in the bathroom.
	I took like a, I was like, what if I'm trans.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	I was going to explain to her.
	Madison, you're always gone when the shit is.
	I know.
	It was rage with Kiko.
	No, I made a joke.
	I was like, what if I have a dick right now?
	And she was like, I would be repulsed by that.
	And that pissed her off.
	Wait, wait, that was it?
	That's what she got upset about?
	No, no, no, because she was like, what do you know?
	She said, if you're biologically born with a vagina, you are a female.
	And if you're born with a penis, you're a male.
	That's right.
	I know.
	That's how that happens.
	You're being so transphobic.
	You don't get to this side.
	I feel like it was a lot of things.
	I feel like she was already raging a little bit before from what feminism is saying.
	It was the topic of question with her.
	Wait, can I ask what's the hot?
	I've watched these.
	I'm like, what is this?
	What's this?
	Let's not derail the conversation.
	Look, she was getting absolutely obliterated every single time she brought up a point about feminism.
	It got debunked by sentence or something.
	You can't put it downstairs and she's not a bad person.
	And women, that's not a good idea.
	So she was pissed off that she had nothing to do with her.
	To back up her beliefs.
	She had nothing.
	And she stormed off because she was looking for an excuse of something to get pissed off about, which was not just a moment.
	You can't talk to me when someone's not in the room.
	That's a pussy move.
	You're doing a pussy move.
	You can't talk to you when someone's not in the room.
	He's not talking about this.
	We're just discussing.
	No, no, no.
	I'm just asking why.
	I think the way you phrased it was a little bit negative.
	Oh, did it make you feel nothing?
	No, I feel like if I was her and I walked out and then you started being like, well, you know what?
	She was, she was, you know, and I'd be like, damn.
	Or she could have just not stormed out like a child.
	See, like that.
	Would you see that?
	She's right here.
	She's not mad at me if I'm not.
	No, okay, but like, if she comes back, we'll be like, don't storm out with a child.
	You would tell it to her face?
	Yes.
	Do you think that's a good idea?
	Yeah, I would call her out.
	I'll be right back.
	I mean, you're being a good friend, but it's upon herself to have her cheek.
	Cool.
	But like if you're gonna like say this here and then when she's gonna be like I would tell her to her face it is childish to storm off just because you're upset.
	Honestly, I don't even think what you said was that like there's way worse shit you could have said on that topic.
	What if Chase was fucking here and saying like we could have talked about is it like is it okay I'm not gonna go there why don't you call her and tell her this because we've had a lot of things.
	She says I don't pow wow with the fucking girls on the page because we want adults on the podcast.
	She told you that he's impulsed by your life and you sat here and you were like I don't want to put too much on it.
	I was just saying if you would if you would put your word like that when she's in front of you cool.
	I just didn't know if you're like just talking because she was like well okay another lesson in minute right now we're we're live streaming she just stormed out of the studio of course we're gonna like have something else I also asked what happened.
	So yeah, I also just asked what happened.
	I just feel like I mean, if you would say that to her face, like cool, you know, just said, said what to her face?
	And you were like she's acting like a child, said she wasn't.
	Yeah, I mean yeah, this is interesting, men tend to speak very, very bluntly about exactly what they're saying, logically.
	Logically no, and you're.
	I have a feeling that this is something that goes through the minds of women like no, you shouldn't say that, because what if she was here?
	Because what if she was here?
	No, I'm just, I just want to be a good person, like not put someone down, that's all, that's all, that's all.
	Sugarcoat shit with me.
	She'll be like you're crying should I find you a therapist, because they're educated in this like she's okay, all right.
	So uh, let me get a couple chats here.
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	Thank for the prime carnivore wife.
	Thank the.
	I think already thanked you.
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	Whatever drops a follow excuse me drops a prime sub.
	Let me get a couple of the chats here while we have them.
	Let me see, um okay, hold up, okay.
	Oh, this one came in a while ago.
	One sec guys.
	We have Layla.
	Can you read this, Layla?
	Thank you, family.
	Someone mentioned earlier that you're not much to look at and you don't need me to offend you to defend you, but you're a solid eight, though your statement of relaxation by good head is just weird.
	I'm a 24 year old virgin, so take that with a grain of salt.
	Obviously valid, but I think that if you're a 24 year old virgin and like you just had like one of the worst days of your life and I came and like glucked you off insane, then honestly, like you would probably feel better and I don't think that's too much of a crazy statement to say.
	I think any man in this room who had a bad day and then received head and it'd be not so bad of a day from a woman he actually loves and who actually loves him.
	But yeah, but it still works, not from I didn't say from me individually.
	Your woman could that you love, could maybe you know?
	And you'd be like oh, thank you, baby.
	That makes me feel better.
	What she did changed the title of the video to bang storms off.
	Okay, bang storms off.
	Yes, the claims, i'm not gonna lie.
	That did take me surprise, though I was like I thought she was mad at me at first.
	She's probably never coming back with you.
	She lost all right.
	That's why I was saying it was escalating.
	Yeah, she's already heated.
	And then the feminism thing didn't help.
	A woman telling her that feminism is bs is just not gonna have anything.
	It's total bullshit.
	Feminism is literally a fucking.
	I don't hear, but I don't like.
	I don't even know what you were picking your nails or something playing with your nails.
	It's not.
	Feminism shouldn't be a real thing anymore.
	It's not at this point.
	So basically, what you're saying is, and she shouldn't have gotten mad at my.
	I think it's a good thing.
	I think people that are really, really emotional are probably feminists, but that's not a bad thing.
	It's okay for someone to feel things really deeply.
	I think she's what she said all night.
	I mean, I don't.
	Most people who are hyper-emotional are probably feminists.
	You are 100% correct.
	She's very much true, yeah.
	Thank you for acknowledging that.
	I really agree.
	Katie, were you expecting all this tonight?
	No, not at all.
	That was true.
	When she walked up, she was like, She's like, what the fuck?
	I'm sitting here telling us our life is shameful.
	And I just sat here like, y'all are a really lovely couple.
	Like, that's all that went through my head.
	We're talking about the show.
	I have some interesting things to say to you.
	So, Fally, Fally, he's a 24-year-old virgin.
	Would you dating Zirka, but would you?
	He's in Miami.
	Okay, so it's cool.
	We're not dating this one.
	Yo, Fally, Fally.
	Oh, it sounds up.
	Fally, can I set you up with Layla?
	Send me a picture of him.
	Okay, I'll show you.
	Okay, you have to send him yours too.
	I've never had one.
	I get tested every two.
	Never.
	I've never.
	Speaking of which, somebody at this panel has a dark secret related to.
	What the hell?
	Who is it?
	We're going to get into that in a little bit after I get through these chats.
	Okay.
	Can I have you read this one, please?
	The Mormon husband needs to be put in a chokefully.
	Maybe after a good sleep, he'll wake up and realize he's getting cucked by someone who does Coke and Storid Rage Head and John Zirka, making the rest of us look bad.
	Mike, is that you?
	Literally, Mike, is that you?
	No, Mike Pavone.
	No.
	Do you know Mike Pavone?
	No, it's Derek Mike.
	Also, Dan, I appreciate it.
	That's cool.
	That reminded me of Mike.
	Why?
	Thank you, Mike.
	Why?
	Wait, who am I making look bad?
	I'm confused.
	Who's the us?
	Are you Mormon?
	Is Mike Pavone Mormon?
	No, well, I said this earlier.
	The Mormon husband, man, who's married to her, who's currently sleeping with John Zirka and a lot of other people.
	He does porn, too.
	I don't do porn right now because I was with, well, he's in Miami.
	I don't know how it is.
	Please, dude, if you have any dignity.
	Oh, Fally's back.
	I'll get to that in a sec.
	If you have any dignity, dude, you got to divorce her.
	I'm sorry, dude.
	You can't be a Mormon bishop and he will never divorce me.
	You cannot be a Mormon bishop and tolerate fidelity.
	I promise you, though, you will never find pussy as amazing as mine and a throat as amazing as mine in your entire life.
	But you can actually say that.
	You're talking like you're comparing Jessero.
	You're coming on my vagina and you'll be like, I don't want to see your vagina.
	I don't care.
	I'm literally not going to be a bad person.
	I'm going to pass on the vagina.
	I'm a fan of vaginas, but I'm going to be a bad person.
	You'd be like, whoa.
	I have the most beautiful vagina.
	I saw I blow up so fast and porn.
	You would be shocked.
	That is not how you blew up.
	He loves me.
	He loves me a lot.
	That's great.
	He does.
	He loves you.
	He will never see me and he can do anything I want.
	Did you hear what she said?
	Yeah, she's really good at sucking dick.
	Did you hear that part?
	I just did.
	I live.
	No, I'm good.
	Thank you, though.
	That's a very generous offer of you to fillate me.
	I love getting my friend's head.
	It's like, you know?
	Just a casual.
	See, I think this is a friend.
	Your friends.
	Like, if he was my friend and we were out and he'd be like, damn, I wish I had some head, I'd be like, yo, girl, I got you.
	Have you ever had a friend out and be like, damn, I wish I had some head?
	I have never had a male do that.
	Maybe they'd like to imply that they wanted to hit on me, but they would never literally look at me and be like sexual attention.
	Damn, I wish I had some head.
	Like, I told myself more.
	You've never had sexual attention with your friends.
	No.
	No, or they wouldn't be friends.
	Girl, no.
	I think so.
	Well, let's be real.
	I have someone that I call a friend, but we are more intimate than the women.
	Yeah.
	No, but someone that I'm now emotionally connected to, maybe in a certain way.
	I know, I'm never going to have a friend.
	And if I make friends with her, she's never going to look at me and be like, I really wish I had some friends.
	You profit.
	I can argue with your friends.
	I'm not a friend.
	I mean, we are.
	Well, for me, no.
	So maybe it's what you're getting off, giving off energetically rather than you're like me to come.
	I'm like, fuck yeah.
	Like, it's a good friend thing to do to make each other.
	Give head.
	Yeah, I have to give head to your friends.
	No, no, that is the end of the day.
	I'm going to say right now, I respect you.
	No, that's not a good idea.
	I don't respect what you do or how you do it, but I respect you as a human, human-human.
	But that's bullshit.
	And 98% of people are going to.
	Sorry, am I not supposed to say that word?
	We couldn't.
	Are you going to look at you and be like, you're telling us right now that giving head to your friends is normal?
	We're never fucking.
	No, that's fine.
	I don't care how bone your pussy is.
	I don't care how good.
	We will never fucking do it.
	Do you not make this pain?
	Is this a mission?
	Is this a mission?
	No, because I'm not.
	I don't even want to be J. Do you want to bet that you will never fucking make it?
	I will never fuck you.
	Are you sure?
	I don't want to.
	Shake on it.
	Let's go.
	Let's shake on it.
	What the fuck?
	Bro, no, no, no, no.
	Let's shake.
	Say it.
	No, okay, Brian.
	You want a fucking handshake?
	Are you?
	Can you sanitize your hands?
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Look at this.
	He's saying right now, he's a little never.
	I will never fuck you.
	I will shake your hands.
	Hold on.
	That is disgusting.
	That is disgusting.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Wait, guys, stop.
	Okay.
	I will shake your hand, but I ask that you sanitize it first.
	Okay?
	I just washed my hands in the back.
	Can you sanitize your hand for me?
	Brian's a germ of folk.
	I'm a germpho.
	He's just a germ of food.
	Get that chick some fucking shit.
	Give me some.
	Give me some, please.
	I'm just kidding.
	I'm just fucking.
	No.
	You're shaking right now on stream that you will never fucking.
	I will never fuck you.
	Swear on Seth.
	Yeah, bro.
	This shit's easy as possible.
	I believe it.
	I believe it.
	Wait, are you thinking?
	Yeah.
	I know you're afraid of me.
	Wait, are you thinking?
	Wait, are you thinking he's going to fuck you?
	Hold on.
	I know you're surrounded by a bunch of degenerate, sex-hungry men.
	It's not that hard to fuck a chick.
	Okay.
	Unless you're like, are you going to stalk me outside my house?
	Brian, please fuck me right now.
	I'm like, what the fuck?
	Like, it's going to almost be easier for you.
	That's fine.
	Same thing.
	I don't agree with you, but it's okay.
	I'm going to prove all of y'all wrong.
	And when I fuck you, I'm going to come on stream, and it's going to be the funniest thing ever.
	And you're going to talk about the weather.
	It's going to be so funny.
	Every time we have an argument, I'm going to be like.
	Is that how you acquire the people you fuck just by like they don't want to fuck you?
	So you take them down.
	You like the chase, huh?
	Yeah.
	But when I do fuck you, I'm going to like.
	When they say no, you're going to be my bitch, and it's going to be like, you can never argue with me.
	Are you going to be DSM?
	No, but tell me this.
	That's what I sound like.
	I'm going to take me on this.
	Okay, as soon as you fuck your boyfriend in the ass, they can never argue with you.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	So are you pegging your boyfriend?
	Yeah, wait, and Mormon guy.
	They took it in the ass.
	No, I did not.
	I did not.
	Yeah, she did.
	He's so dominant, actually.
	He's like, oh my God, it's so daddy.
	Is he dominant while you're pegging him in the bud?
	Is that what you're saying?
	So, daddy daughter.
	You're not into daddy?
	Good girl.
	Daddy, daughter.
	Like, good girl.
	Like, good girl.
	Oh, is that what daddy daughter is?
	I mean, yeah, like, DDG.
	Like, oh, wow.
	I mean, I don't know.
	It's not my profession.
	Look, don't get mad on your second thoughts about the industry.
	Well, no.
	No one would ever force me into do anything.
	And again, I don't have men on there, and it's not anything lewd or anything like that.
	I'm just lingerie is pretty to me.
	I think it's pretty.
	I'm shocked that the fact that you are so logical for the most part and working against people.
	I love that you say that.
	Do you respect me before?
	No, I do.
	And I'll say it over and over again because I mean no genuine disrespect, but I'm like, the stupidity is beyond me.
	And I think that I can't believe you are enabling, supporting, working.
	Just because you can, when you're sold.
	You can't believe it.
	Well, I can't do it.
	Well, that's fair.
	I can't.
	I would never allow myself.
	Y'all might think this is bad, but to be honest, my mental health was so bad.
	She said I threw my phone on the floor.
	I've quite literally slammed my phone against my head till it shattered.
	She got me out of all of those awful mindsets of.
	So now you feel indebted to her to the point that you need to help her.
	She isn't.
	God knows.
	God knows.
	Wait, I can tell you why.
	I told her that I was going to make her Uber here because I was like, well, my mental health's a little iffy today.
	I don't think I'm going to show up to this moment.
	She's a good friend.
	She's a genuine person too.
	I do respect that.
	That's really good.
	That's a great decision.
	And no, she just has weird.
	I would genuinely not be up here if it wasn't for you.
	No, that's true.
	You know what I think is?
	I think she actually just wanted to sleep with you.
	Because that's what she's doing.
	I am not a lesbian.
	I do not know.
	That made my heart beat.
	No, but here's the thing.
	What's interesting?
	You can look me up, and I have the awfulest gay remarks.
	Like, if that trans ship is dropped, I'm like, there's so many conversations going on right now.
	Give me counsel for saying I don't like gay people.
	I'm as straight as I am flat.
	There's going to be a point.
	If Dan just said something that outlandish, there is a point.
	I don't know where he's going.
	What is it?
	When I don't know.
	But usually there is a point.
	No.
	The point is this.
	There's one difference between friends and a person that you would consider yourself to be in a relationship with.
	She's like my sister.
	Yeah, she really is.
	That is the only thing that makes it different.
	Okay.
	The way that you go about your life, you're just like, I just love sex.
	I want to fuck this guy.
	What about this guy?
	Like, oh, I just want to fuck.
	I just want to fuck it.
	What about this guy?
	Oh, I could fuck him.
	That would be fun.
	That would be.
	There's nothing meaningful about your relationship with anybody.
	I have so much fun.
	She's the meaning behind that.
	You guys are going to be a little bit more of a diet.
	Like, he really dived or served.
	He has amazing sex with him.
	And he is my best friend.
	I love hanging out with him.
	We have the funniest laughs.
	Like, he's a great guy.
	Like, he's my best friend.
	Like, for real.
	So stop doing porn.
	Quit that.
	I did.
	I stopped doing porn.
	Don't date.
	Don't date anybody else.
	Stop offering him a bro job on a live stream.
	It's been a good month.
	Be an actual girlfriend to somebody.
	Actually, when I'm 30, yeah.
	No.
	No.
	Do you realize what you're doing to yourself right now?
	You're completely fucking up the way that your mind works.
	It's already been fucked up.
	Right.
	And if you can admit that, why wouldn't you change it?
	Because I like it.
	You like how fucked up you are.
	I like it.
	You are literally satanic.
	Honestly, it turns me on that you say that.
	Tell me I'm satanic again.
	No, and do you realize that you're probably.
	But why are you making it sexual?
	Like, let's have like a sexuality.
	I know you have a little bit more view than how you're like coming across.
	I know you have a little bit more logic than how you're coming across.
	I get your like, oh, like, you're turning me on.
	That's your like.
	No, that's mechanism, like, whatever.
	It is turning you on.
	Okay, but like logically, what are you saying to you?
	There's no meaning to any relationship that you have.
	If I was Billy right now, I would be pissed.
	What type of relationship?
	What type of guy?
	Why do you want to end up with at 30?
	I mean, my man that I'm with right now will be the one that has my kids when I'm 30.
	So the one you're married, your husband?
	The one you're married?
	I don't think Zerka will ever like.
	He's such a party guy and everything.
	But me hanging out with him and getting to fuck and getting to be like, oh, you're mine.
	Like cute.
	Like, I like that.
	But like, and that is meaningful to me.
	And it feels real to me because I'm crazy and it feels real and genuine to me.
	Are you seeking therapy?
	Are you seeking therapy?
	Are you in on divorce?
	I think that's what I'm saying.
	The Mormon, I think, like.
	So you just want to be crazy.
	You're happy with being crazy.
	Like, I've gotten therapy.
	I've gotten therapy.
	I like it.
	My parents got divorced.
	I was like, ooh, I can't emotionally deal with this.
	I'm going to do, I'm going to act some way if I do that.
	So are you getting help?
	No, I love my life so much and I have so much fun doing that.
	So you think that's from a crazy perspective?
	Well, people judge the money.
	When people judge, no, not even that.
	Fuck, the money is amazing.
	But when people judge me, it just makes me realize I'm so much more unique than them.
	And I'm like, that's not how I feel.
	It's not in that.
	I think you guys just have a big difference.
	I'm not afraid of you.
	Your own definition.
	You don't think that you're fucked up.
	You think that you're right.
	You think that you're the one who is better than other people.
	Honestly, you're happy motherfucker.
	I think, yeah, like, if you're that judgmental.
	I don't think they should change if you're not.
	Your life is a little more.
	Don't insert yourself into her life.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Sorry.
	All I'm saying is, I think you guys have very different morals, but I think it is so disrespectful that you are looking at him and saying, you turned me on with Billy sitting right there.
	I know she doesn't feel like you're on the same point.
	Wait, Billy, yeah, Billy isn't.
	Okay, I know she doesn't feel threatened.
	Of course she doesn't feel threatened.
	I mean it as a joke.
	But it's also like if my boyfriend was sitting right next to me and some girl was like, you're turning me on.
	I would be so wait until we leave.
	I just think it's funny.
	I do think it's funny.
	And I know you're not.
	I think I can get that back from you, bona.
	Honestly, like I would stop if it was for her.
	I just think it's funny.
	I'm just going to end it with, I know you're not threatened, but I would be so pissed.
	And you're like, it's kind of full right now.
	Disgusting.
	And I can quit if you want me to, but no, I'm not that person, but I would be very confrontational because that's disrespectful.
	Is Wayne Brady going to the bottom?
	I'm okay with it.
	I don't disrespect what you're like.
	I'm telling you, if this was Allison right now and someone at this table said this to Allison, I would absolutely, yes, I would probably, I would say, Allison is to me.
	Sorry, I'm not talking like.
	You would fight on behalf of your friends on her.
	Oh, 100%.
	Probably not.
	I also run in front of 4.2 million people, but absolutely.
	I think, absolutely.
	Wait, I have like you're also giving me a bunch of people.
	I think Billy doesn't give a fuck about it.
	Did we take wagers on who's going to win in the boxing match that we're going to start?
	When I was younger and like maybe past relationships, if somebody would have said this, maybe I would have felt threatened back then, but I threatened is like the last one.
	She doesn't feel threatened because it's someone who's brainwashed and crazy saying this stuff to me.
	I mean, I'm not rationalizing her.
	I met her today.
	I don't know how to do it.
	I'm trying to rationalize why I'm not like.
	It's because you're like, you're celebrating.
	He's never going to ever look at a girl like you.
	Because you know she's dating a man of principle.
	Also, Zerka would never let me cheat on her.
	I mean, no, she's like, you're in no relationship, but like, keep it over.
	I'll make jokes, and I, and I know the day whenever we're done, I'm going to make every single one of those moves.
	Hold on.
	You just said that Zerka would never let you cheat on him, but you, earlier on in the conversation, you said, well, when he's in Miami, I can fuck other guys.
	That's true.
	He's in Miami.
	That's cheating.
	I'm also going to point out that there are people who are going to be back together.
	See, there's no meaning.
	I made this point when you walked away.
	There's no meaning.
	I'm fucked up, but I'm better than everybody else.
	Oh, God.
	Like, I'm just very cocky.
	Like, I feel like other people are boring, but I'm also really fucked up.
	And somehow I'm going to do it.
	I'm not sure if I can do it for myself.
	I love that you're pulling.
	There's nothing.
	I love it.
	Nothing she says here.
	I love that you can't understand it.
	I also can't wrap your mind around it.
	I don't mean to attack you, but there was a comment on the screen that was like, but I'm like, we're not going to check it out.
	And that's honestly probably everyone in the world probably.
	We're not going to get through too early.
	I'm going to move things on.
	We have Fally here with a message.
	Madison, can you read it?
	Surprised she stayed as long as she did.
	Every time multiple people disagreed with her, her facial expressions alone told me she's refusing to listen, gonna keep her position even if it's wrong in the public eye.
	People like her are the reason feminists get hit.
	Sally, thank you.
	I just feel like there's also another comment and it was like one sec really quick Madison, can you read this really quick?
	Then I'll have you come in.
	Gonna try to make this my last donation for tonight.
	I do this way too often, but charity is fun for me.
	The happy reactions are worth it.
	I have a friend who I might recommend to you, but I'm saving myself for the one if I ever find it.
	Thanks, though.
	Good for you.
	Who I might recommend to you.
	You said to you, thank you, Fally.
	Appreciate it.
	No, you wanted to hook them up together.
	Yeah.
	Remember?
	Give me your friend, babe.
	Give me your friend.
	Okay, go ahead.
	I was just going to say that's not the first person that said, like, you guys are giving feminists a bad rap, and like, you're claiming to be a feminist, and then you're, like, disrespecting the shit out of Billy, like, saying that shit to her boyfriend.
	I mean, like, that's not very good.
	I don't think she claims feminists.
	I mean, I'd say, go women, but, like, I'm not like women.
	Go women.
	Okay.
	I'm like, go women, but I'm not.
	I'm not woke in that sense.
	Yeah, no, I don't give too many fucks like that.
	But I mean, go women.
	I think she's still walking.
	What do you give a fuck about?
	Can I ask you straight up?
	What do you give a fuck about?
	It's not right, but at the same time, what topic do you think?
	I'm saying anything.
	Stop, stop.
	What would you do if you were in Billy's position right now?
	My hope is that I would handle myself just as gracefully and probably not.
	No, I can sense energy.
	I can sense like Billy can take a joke.
	I didn't have hot rad days.
	There were no hood rats.
	I don't think I've ever possibly been able to do that.
	Is William Brady gonna have the choco, bitch?
	I wouldn't have.
	I wouldn't have.
	No, I can sense energy.
	And I would just feel he didn't.
	I feel unsettled, and I would definitely have to be like, hey, fuck.
	Then I would back off.
	Then I would back off.
	Let's do roleplay.
	You're Billy, Billy Ray.
	You're a patriarchy supporter.
	That's good.
	I love that.
	Professional patriarchy supporter.
	Dan's your boyfriend.
	She just said the shit she said.
	We can reenact it.
	Pretend to be Billy.
	Go.
	Wait, can you pretend to be Ben, right?
	No, you actually went first.
	You have to go to the next one.
	Wait, who would you go first so that she can reach out?
	I want to suck your cock.
	Oh, my God.
	No, do you want to be speechless?
	I'm sorry, I didn't know what to say.
	I think you're so disrespectful for saying that with me right here.
	That's valid.
	I wouldn't be an ICT.
	I would call her out at least.
	And I would say that's valid.
	I'd take my cigarette back and I'll back off.
	No, you're right.
	You're totally correct, but I'm going to continue doing it.
	All right, let me get some chats here.
	Madison, can you read this?
	No, we read this.
	We read this.
	Did we do this one?
	No.
	Madison.
	Hypothetical.
	You've been seeing someone and now they're your boyfriend slash girlfriend.
	Who pays when you go out to dinner?
	50-50?
	Does it change if you're living together?
	Don't give a PCA answer.
	How do you really feel it should be?
	Can I just say that?
	Can I say that?
	Related to this?
	I just want to give my last response.
	Go ahead.
	If I did say something, imagine how the chat would react saying how insecure I was.
	Actually, I think they'd back you to be a bit more.
	I really don't think that's a good idea.
	They love me ever.
	I think it would be, look at her, she's so insecure.
	Honestly, I think they'd back you.
	You're good.
	Can I have a say on that comment right now?
	I also have.
	We'll go around the table on this.
	So here's the chat.
	Why don't you go first?
	We'll go all the way around the table.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, sorry.
	You start?
	Go.
	Okay.
	No, if I'm with a man, like, my whole thing is I'll never be with a.
	Sorry.
	I'll never be with a man that makes less than me.
	So, like, obviously pay for my dinner.
	Like, duh, I'm never going to be like, yeah, let me pull out my, let me get my Apple Pay real quick.
	You know, I'm with enough red pill guys that they're going to pay for my dinner.
	You don't feel good having someone to pay for someone to give it back.
	Well, like, the guys, the type of guys that I date are all so like red pill.
	Like, they're going to, it's never going to be a farm stars and like having to do that.
	I can, you know, I got my little moves and be like, maybe I put form for you, you know?
	And then I do for a little bit.
	Okay.
	For a little bit.
	I like putting in the exact same amount of effort the man puts into me.
	I will cook for them even if they do not cook for me.
	But I enjoy giving.
	It's very nice to make other people smile.
	That's why I love customer service.
	Okay.
	Nice.
	Why not make some of this service?
	Who pays when we go out to dinner?
	I prefer the guy to pay.
	I wouldn't really mind paying $50-50.
	Does it change if we live together?
	Not really.
	I think when I first started dating my boyfriend, he felt a pressure to like pay for everything.
	But now that we're like living together, we do really like 50-50.
	And he'll take me on a date.
	He'll pay for everything.
	But also, like, he'll have a bad day.
	I'll surprise him.
	I'll be like, hey, I brought sushi for us.
	Like, I like to also give.
	Do things in return.
	Yeah.
	I like to give too.
	And it's like my love language, gift giving.
	So I'm constantly like bringing stuff.
	Yeah.
	My boyfriend, he usually pays when we go out to eat.
	We don't normally go out to eat.
	We like to cook in and stuff.
	And when that happens, I always make the food.
	He sucks at cooking.
	Because you're good at cooking.
	He normally pays.
	And that's hot.
	He normally pays.
	You love a man that can't cook.
	Me?
	I'm super big on, like, I'm very 50-50.
	Unless, like, if it's his birthday, like, I for sure you want to spoil you, I want to buy you gifts.
	I want to buy you dinner.
	On Christmas, like, whatever happens, happens.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	i mean we live together he we have like i mean i mean listen that there are times where Well, where she would go to, she would go to pay for things, and I'd be like, no, like, you don't need to do this for me.
	And she says, like, I want to.
	She says, how much rent did I pay this month?
	Because she moved into my place.
	Yeah, I don't pay any rent.
	Yeah, she knows she doesn't.
	Like, I've been covering.
	But she comes in and she, like, she'll buy groceries.
	She'll take me out to dinner stuff.
	Here's the setup.
	So 50-50, even if it's not financially, it's effort-wise.
	The setup is, I have a beautiful waterfront apartment that I look out at every day and I'm very happy with.
	And Dan gets organic, farm-fresh meat that's beautifully seasoned.
	And the house is decorated, and I pay for that.
	She buys every single piece of supplies that we need for a good beach day.
	So you think it works out that way.
	50-50.
	So he puts the roof over the head and I make it.
	We're splitting the bill where putting both of our cars in.
	I don't think that's what 50-50.
	She just said it best.
	I put the roof over our head and she makes it pretty.
	Let's just ask, though, because I think some of the table's argument is like, oh, but I have so much money that like, or these people have so much.
	So let's just say he was a multi, like Jeff Bezos billionaire.
	Would you still do the same thing?
	Yeah, because I feel like the way I do it now is just I make his life optimal.
	Yes.
	He provides what I would do to provide the host.
	Yeah, what I do.
	I make sure that all the food going into his body is like the best quality stuff we can get.
	I make sure that the area that he's living in is organized and beautiful.
	So if it was Jeff Bezos, I'd do the same exact thing.
	I mean, 100%.
	He has a personal story.
	Such a particular scenario because Jeff Bezos is one of the most wealthy people.
	So it's like, your life would be so inconceivably different if you were involved with Jeff Bezos.
	It's just like.
	But would she still show her true colors and be that person and still do the same things?
	And she's qualifying as a child.
	I'm curious, like, what?
	Like, if you're, because if you're married to Jeff Bezos, you're not cooking.
	I would never.
	You're not cleaning up.
	I would absolutely, no, I would absolutely cook and clean one day.
	Maybe I know.
	You have to do it.
	Right, and I would take it upon myself to say, no, I want to cook for you tonight.
	I know she cooks great all week.
	I want to cook for you.
	There's probably like, if you're married to Jeff Bezos, he has like a professional chef preparing the meals.
	There's probably a fucking food taste tester.
	I hate that.
	I hate that.
	Yeah, but it takes a lot of time.
	But let's be real, you get what we're asking, right?
	Like, would you still show up as the same human in the same, you know, like attitude, personality?
	Yeah, like, if he's in a different tax market, would you still show that same love?
	Because I think what they're looking at is she's like, I'm never going to pay because he has so much money.
	Like, it doesn't take away from my character because the other male or the male has so much money.
	Like, I still want to make you dinner every now and again.
	Wait, but I don't, I don't think that.
	I think it's the type of guys I fuck with are so red pill.
	They would never think it's a good idea.
	We're going backwards.
	No, I was just thinking.
	I just think Mormon husband.
	They would never think.
	I'm going to continue.
	But they would never think that it's okay for me to pay.
	They just wouldn't.
	They would feel like they'd be like, no, you're a woman.
	And so you wouldn't tell them, like, no, I want to pay for you.
	I mean, I can be like that.
	I can be like that, but they're going to be like, no, like, you're a woman.
	I'm going to pay.
	Like, you know, they're just going to be a little bit more.
	I feel like that's a red pill quality, actually.
	I mean, I have had a man, 25-year-old, tell me I'm not allowed to drive myself anyway when I'm with him.
	I'm not allowed to pay for any of my money.
	Yo, thank you.
	I pretty much ended that Greaseball MLD's career.
	Mike Davis has that precision and knows how to cut right through the soul.
	Which low life should I end next, chat?
	Mike Davis.
	Which low life should you end next?
	I'm not a lowlife, so don't look at me.
	Mike Davis, you need to end who's annoying on social media right now.
	Who's annoying?
	Logan Paul's kind of annoying.
	I haven't read it in a while.
	Did you see that?
	Dylan Dannis reposted our video.
	Really?
	Oh, shit.
	I didn't see that.
	Wait, what are you talking about him and Nina?
	Yeah.
	What would Joe say?
	Was it bad?
	Yeah, well, it was on the Make Me A story.
	It was what Dan was saying.
	Go ahead and check it out.
	No, but I basically just made the point that there's no way that that relationship is not currently on the rock.
	Obviously.
	There's no way that it's not.
	You can't marry that anymore.
	Well, have you seen some of their clips?
	Like, they did a podcast together, and the way she talks to him is like super aggressive.
	No, but post that.
	They've had interviews post that.
	And I just think that's a PR.
	They've had interviews post all the shit that's come out.
	I think there was one where they were saying this.
	Or no, maybe it was just Logan saying, like, of course I've been laughing at it.
	Like, we sit down together and laugh.
	There's no way.
	There's no way he's dying inside.
	Yeah.
	I love Leonardo DiCaprio, but the moment, like, if a girl who I'm trying to pursue, if I know she fucked Leonardo DiCaprio, I feel like that's kind of a rap, you know?
	Not to say that I'm not sexy.
	Are you insecure?
	Well, it's not.
	Here's the thing, though.
	It's not like, honestly, Leo is bagging some really some pretty hot babes.
	I'm not sure if I could get the girls he's a little bit more.
	Probably because of this actor, though.
	He doesn't think they're attractive.
	No, do you think Nina?
	Do you think Nina's attractive?
	Because personally, guys, she's a beautiful woman.
	Of course.
	But like, no, afterwards, knowing that she did all that.
	is this she's got that kind of like i'm not sure if she's attractive model like like knowing Like, knowing that she fucked all those guys and is with Logan, do you think he thinks she's still attractive now?
	Are you talking about your parents?
	I don't think anything is that he didn't love her.
	I don't know that, though.
	Now he does.
	Look, your woman is supposed to be a reflection of you as a man.
	If that's the reflection of you, you're not the person.
	I do not believe that.
	He's going to change his mind on her.
	Yes.
	I don't believe that any relationship prior to the one that you are in now has anything to do with your relationship, like that you're having now.
	Actually, you were based up until now.
	No, no, not even that.
	Not like that.
	You were so good.
	No, the people they've been with.
	I'm not saying so.
	Are you going to go back to your egg?
	Let me ask you a question.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Wait, let me ask you a question.
	So, let's say you're pursuing a guy.
	Is there a girl that a guy could have gotten with that would make you like turned off because he got with her?
	Was I his girl at the time?
	No, no, no, you, but in his past, he, like, fucked somebody else.
	Okay, was that, was that, was I with him at that time?
	No, that's not my business.
	I wasn't in his life at that point.
	Here, here, let me let me try to think of it.
	I'm sorry, I'm not immature.
	If a girl, I'm trying to think of a guy that would like totally put me off of wanting to be with a girl.
	If a girl fucked.
	Seal.
	What's wrong with Seal?
	You would stay with her?
	I mean, but that one song from the 90s is kind of a band.
	It's so appealing to people then.
	They need to get their hands on the screen.
	Seal how to go.
	Can you sing a girl?
	Mental threats.
	No, I don't even know what that is.
	Can you sing those?
	Like, I've heard sex with plenty of people.
	He hasn't even made any new music.
	It's been the minute.
	He had one hit in the 90s.
	Okay.
	I've had sex with plenty of people.
	I would never.
	But that's not something I bring up to my freaking lover.
	If someone fucked who's youtube, that's.
	Oh, like, okay, I'm going to get you.
	I don't know famous people.
	I don't care for family.
	I don't start my life like that.
	Who is that?
	We don't know who that is over here.
	I don't know famous people.
	That's the problem.
	I do not waste my time going on social media like that.
	I swear to God, she's 17 years old.
	I don't even leave my room.
	I don't play video games.
	I don't do anything.
	Social media is not all to life.
	I go to the beach and I read.
	I have a charcuterie board or a bonfire.
	Like, there's more to life than being on your social media.
	Maybe this is something that's more pronounced in men.
	Like, as a guy, if you know a girl fucked a certain dude and you, like, you don't have to respect them.
	They have a small disease.
	I totally get that.
	Or then secure.
	Yeah.
	If he fucked your brother, like.
	What does that have to do with anything?
	Because they're probably thinking, oh, he probably did really good on her, and that's icky.
	Or it could be that guy's an icky person in general, and you've been with him, so gross.
	I don't like him.
	No, it's either it's she clearly liked him enough to do that, and therefore she is bonded to that guy, which makes her less inclined to bond to me as quickly as I would like her to.
	Oh, and the fact that she was bonded to him at one point and is now trying to bond with me, there's a chance that that bond could be broken again.
	See, I understand that, but some people leave their exes for a reason and choose not to go back and want to rebond with someone else.
	They don't want to.
	What if they have a pattern?
	Well, then that's their problem.
	They need to get themselves fixed.
	Right, but you're saying it doesn't matter.
	It's none of your business like they did in the past.
	If they're really upset about it, I'm not going to get upset with them.
	Like, oh, you fucked her.
	Cool.
	You're with me now.
	Nah, but what if it's, like, your best friend or, like, your brother fucked your girl?
	Like, I would be, like...
	I would straight up, like, not, you know...
	I feel like it doesn't have to be someone you're, like, really close to.
	Like, there's a few people where I'm, like, if I heard that he had been with her before, I'd be, like, really turned off.
	Like...
	I'd ask her about it.
	I'd be like, I'd ask her how she felt, or I just wouldn't act upon, like, the only time I ever did care is when I was so insecure about the way I looked, I was like, oh, he's been with her, like.
	Like, why does he want me?
	I don't like him anymore.
	Like, he likes fucking bitches.
	Like, no.
	Now I'm like, okay, well, he's with me for a reason, and I'm not going to think myself into such a negative mindset that he doesn't want to be with me anymore.
	Are we just dialing in?
	I've never looked at the girls.
	Like who I've had sex with or whatever.
	But if a guy, if you've ran the streets, and like ran through everybody.
	Of course a guy's girl.
	I've never looked in that direction.
	Like, oh, she was really pretty.
	Like, I'm intimidated.
	Like, was there ever a girl that you really hated in high school?
	Yes, I'm just thinking of one specific girl who has, like, who literally said my two-year relationship boyfriend on his birthday.
	I hated that girl, but I was a teen.
	I was so young and so stupid and living with him that I didn't realize I could have walked out of that man's life at any given moment.
	I think maybe this is a difference between men and women, but if there's, I almost wonder if women are more inclined to fuck a guy who has slept with a woman that they hate because it's almost like some sort of power revenge.
	Yeah, I hate it.
	Whereas for men, if you fucked a guy we hate, that is like the biggest fucking turn off.
	Or a guy we really like.
	It's not just personal preference.
	Like one of my boys, like one of my boys, oh my god.
	The moment that my, like, I could be incredibly interested in a girl.
	Like, potentially, oh my God, her vibe was great.
	She's like the future love of my life.
	She might be the one.
	The moment that she dates one of my friends, there is a switch in my head that goes, never.
	That's a good idea.
	The difference between homie hopping and then going with someone like random, random.
	No, I'm not saying it's out of friendship.
	Sorry.
	Oh, really?
	That's not out of friendship.
	It's literally just ingrained in my head.
	She's no longer attractive.
	That's the one that's not out of respect for myself.
	I'm not going to go with the guys that I don't want to be her Eskimo sister.
	I want to be her sister.
	Oh, here's a good one.
	If a girl fucked a guy with a bunch of face tattoos, for some reason, I'm like, you're done.
	No, that's false.
	I don't get tattoos.
	What about postpone?
	With that.
	I have 32 tattoos.
	I mean, I wouldn't, but I'm like, come on, he's so sweet.
	He's so tight.
	Really?
	Tattoos are amazing.
	32.
	I think it's 18.
	Yeah, I literally have always wanted a little rose right in your head.
	I'm going to give you a fucked a guy with like face, blasted with face tattoos.
	Not blasted with face tattoos.
	Just a couple.
	Soundcloud rapper.
	Just a couple.
	I'm sorry, you're done.
	Cute little broken heart.
	A little Zan moment.
	I haven't.
	Am I on the table?
	Yeah, if my boyfriend.
	My friend dated the female equivalent of that before me.
	I'd be like, repulsed.
	Like, that's a big turn off.
	For face-to-face?
	Very unattractive.
	Just like, I think I'm a piece of all kinds of vibe.
	That's the only reason I get tattoos.
	Wait, not exact face tattoos.
	Wait, let's ask the chat.
	Nick, if you can pull up the chat really quick.
	Yo, chat.
	What kind of girl would, or sorry, what kind of guy would a girl have to sleep with?
	You can give us some details, descriptive terms.
	What kind of guy would a girl.
	Jesus, I can't think of my words right now.
	What kind of guy would be, if a girl hooked up with him, would it just be a no-go for you to pursue the girl?
	Rappers, flavor, flave, a vegan.
	A vegan.
	A vegan, a felon.
	Yeah, if it was a vegan.
	Yeah, that's a good example.
	Like, if she.
	Yeah, my father, that's awful.
	That's disgusting.
	Wait, question.
	If I wait, hold on.
	I don't care.
	If you can say it, just say it.
	Like, if me and your mom got down.
	My mom's a slut.
	Yes.
	Go for it.
	But would you date me if I had just gotten together?
	Oh, no.
	No.
	Oh, my God.
	I just think you're a little old for that, so obviously no.
	Like, I'm in a good mindset.
	No, but anyone.
	Anyone that fucks up.
	Oh, anyone that has sex with my mom, I'm not going to like them regardless because they talked to my mother.
	Yeah, that's weird.
	Why would I like you?
	I feel like shading, like a bad example.
	I don't talk about my mom.
	I guess that's why I'm trying to make it.
	I don't fuck with my mom publicly.
	She's a people.
	She's like, no, we have really shitty parents.
	You can't say that.
	We have really shitty pictures.
	You're putting your kid in a car whenever she's 14.
	I haven't spoken to my dad in years, but I'm not going to come out and publicly feel like that.
	But like, our parents.
	That's a level of respect offering.
	Okay.
	See, we do different things for work, for life, and that's maybe where.
	30 CPS cases.
	I would never speak negatively about my parents on a platform.
	I don't even consider them parents.
	But I understand where you're going to be.
	I live with my grandma my entire life, too.
	Yeah, I would never talk to you about my grandma.
	The people who raised me, no.
	Okay, we get it.
	It's not even sad.
	None of this makes me sad.
	It's all a learning lesson.
	It makes me sad.
	It makes me sad.
	It's a learning lesson.
	That's why I have a dad.
	My values lay in a different place, but that's okay.
	I know everyone grows up a lot differently than others.
	100%.
	That's the whole reason why we all act the movie, you know.
	That's why I don't get upset with like in the same industry as you.
	Okay.
	I have a chat here from.
	Wait, let me read this before I pull it up.
	Layla, can you read this?
	Oh, wait, hold on.
	It's going to come up in just a sec.
	The hell is feminism?
	That word is not even in my vocabulary.
	Also, Layla, I'm a guest.
	You and Zirka do Coke together every other night.
	So no wonder you have like 20 brain cells, but don't worry, so does he.
	Sobriety.
	From Zerka's Coke supplier.
	What's up?
	Sobriety.
	Me and Zirka do not do cocaine together.
	And every time that we get off to go to the bathroom, it's because we genuinely have to pee.
	Based.
	Your nation's awesome.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Okay, I had some more stuff here.
	Let me see.
	Let me pull up my notes.
	So let's see.
	You don't do OF, correct?
	No OF.
	Never.
	Never, never.
	You say you consider yourself more like conservative, traditional?
	Yes, correct.
	But so you said that in your notes to us, you had a sugar daddy while I had a boyfriend.
	And this is the sugar daddy.
	This is the same person.
	Have you ever had any other sugar daddies?
	Never in my life.
	This is the only one.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	By the book, I would call it that.
	So no blurred lines between prostitution and whatever.
	Yes.
	But you did have a sugar daddy.
	And my boyfriend was completely okay with it.
	Oh, he knew?
	That's good.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	He was under the time, we're not together anymore.
	I don't want anyone else to know because naturally society is going to blur the lines, which I agree.
	But yes, no, 100%.
	That's a fact.
	It's not bad what you're saying.
	You're literally saying this man who took, like, was my friend noticed that I could use a little bit of help in whatever way.
	Took me under his wing and helped me.
	I don't think that is, that's bad at all.
	It's all platonic.
	You're not giving him sex.
	You're not kissing him.
	You're not telling him that you love him.
	Nothing even close to that.
	And so at that point, it's not really even sugar babying.
	It's actually literally just a really good one.
	But really, really good friend.
	No, because you're not in love with him.
	Look at him not.
	You're not convincing him that you love him.
	I'm not sure.
	I don't think it's like bad what you do.
	I'm not shaming you, like do your own thing.
	But I personally would see it like I'm giving another man my attention.
	You know, it would just be like pretending that it's not super literally.
	But if you're out business, you said it's all platonic, so I don't see any type of like love coming.
	It doesn't have to be like learning as well.
	Because during that period of time, there's more of like, it's the same way I would talk to like you if you were my friend or Allison if she's my friend.
	But what we talk about is strictly business.
	Not strictly business.
	I'll take that out.
	We talk about business.
	We talk about life, like where he's at in life, where I'm at in life, with no sexual, anything attached.
	So let's not think that man knows that he doesn't have a chance.
	He's very much so on the same page.
	He cares about me as if I was like his.
	You have to be an uncle, right?
	Yeah, like I was his niece.
	Like he genuinely is like, are you good?
	Like, are you okay?
	But he's never implied any sexual tendencies or anything in between.
	But attention-wise, now if I'm telling him, like, I'm sending the photos or I'm like being like, oh, I'm into you.
	Like, so send me something that's never what it's been.
	It's genuinely like as if you were talking to, and I can't speak on your family, but like your uncle, your family, and they were like, let me help you.
	But that is by definition now a sugar baby.
	B-Z mode.
	Okay, so you also said in your pre-show notes to us that you had to convince a guy to take the clap.
	No!
	Wait, are we here?
	By lying.
	Yes, okay, wait.
	So this is.
	Sorry, what did you say?
	Wait, I didn't hear any of that.
	I didn't either.
	Me either.
	Wait, Brian, can we not do that one again, actually?
	Can we?
	No, can we not?
	But I'm asking you.
	You said in the notes, you said you convinced me.
	Oh, wait, are you going to do it?
	Okay, let's go.
	To take the clap pill by lying and says, let's do it.
	Let's go.
	Let's fucking do it.
	Let's do it.
	Let's do it.
	Let's do me.
	Wait, read that again, Brian?
	What?
	Yeah, what did you say?
	I didn't hear anything.
	I didn't hear it either.
	Don't worry about it.
	Well, if it's going to be on that podcast, I'm going to worry about it.
	Oh, my God.
	You should have been listening the first two or three years.
	I was heard.
	None of us could hear.
	There's so many people talking over each other.
	I literally couldn't hear it.
	Women unite.
	So in your pre-show notes to us.
	Can I say it?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Tell the story.
	Okay, so this isn't a personal story of mine, but uh.
	Oh.
	Okay, it was a friend.
	You asked specifically any interesting stories, and I said I've got plenty.
	Okay, what is it?
	I'm so interested.
	Okay, so someone convincing someone else to take a pill for the clap.
	Chlamydia, which is technically not the clap.
	Chlamydia, are we all on the same page now?
	Wait, they convinced him to take a pill for it?
	Well, let me speak.
	Convincing someone to take a pill for the clap by telling them that it's a different pill.
	It's not this.
	Why did they want to take it?
	They didn't want to, sorry, sorry, sorry.
	They didn't want to tell them that they had chlamydia.
	Wow.
	But what are your views?
	What are your views?
	Do you agree with that?
	Wait, hold on.
	You're going to tell the full story.
	Okay, wait, so because everyone's asking fucking questions.
	And I'm not close to them on the internet.
	Okay, I'm in the room.
	Okay, let me let me try to clarify.
	In the pre-show message, I don't know if it's you, I don't know if it's a friend of yours, convincing a guy to take the pill, the antibiotics for chlamydia by lying and saying it was something else.
	Yes.
	So, okay, what's the component of saying it's something else?
	Okay, so let's play it out.
	Okay, so you find out you have chlamydia.
	You want to tell someone, this is I'll play it as if it was me, it was not me.
	And I find out my boy, like, I have chlamydia.
	Now my boyfriend has chlamydia without me knowing.
	Or without him knowing.
	And so someone literally said, like, I get BB, like my vagina, like, is thrown off by pH, so like you coming inside me, whatever, and said, take this pill.
	It'll no, not on me.
	No, that's that's smart, but like, no, it's terrible.
	But yes, and and um lied to them and just said like my pH is off, so you have to take this pill, it'll balance it out.
	And they like they fully took it.
	What?
	That's crazy.
	No, that's not how that works.
	I'm not gonna lie.
	No, it is.
	It is.
	No, that is boric acid.
	You're telling me that you can't get a pillow that can just get rid of chloria.
	That's his depository.
	Yeah.
	That's a girl takes, that a girl takes.
	But you made, you convinced him to take it like a pill?
	No, no, no, not boric acid.
	No, I know, but you called it boric acid?
	That's how you do it.
	I didn't convince anyone to do this.
	Yeah, I didn't.
	I haven't thought of convincing it.
	But you're playing the part.
	Not this friend.
	Do not point to her.
	Okay, right.
	No.
	You have a friend.
	A really good friend.
	I think you know who this person is, too.
	Yes.
	I'm not fucking disposing it.
	No, it's not Rob.
	No.
	Wait, I know who it is.
	Anyways, move on.
	No, no.
	What was your question before?
	Can you whisper it to me?
	I won't say it.
	Just whisper.
	No.
	Yeah, after the show.
	Not right now.
	Okay.
	So you said, and let me saw you said any interesting stories, and I'm like, well, this is what I have to offer.
	That's a good idea.
	That's beautiful.
	Okay, so if I can, let me just reiterate so I make sure we all understand.
	You had a friend who I suppose she cheated on her boyfriend or some shit.
	No, she was having sex, got into a relationship with someone, wasn't STD checked, and then she was sleeping with multiple guys, got into a relationship.
	Turns out she has the clap.
	She has chlamydia.
	So she's dating a guy and she assumes that she gave the new guy.
	She found out, yes.
	Okay.
	And so what she did was, instead of just saying, hey, listen, I got fucked up.
	She's like, here, take this pill.
	I got it.
	She was ashamed.
	She was ashamed.
	She was embarrassed because it's not something.
	No, no, she literally said.
	How does he know it worked?
	Oh, my God.
	What do you mean?
	How does he know it worked?
	Because sometimes it doesn't work.
	Yeah.
	What doesn't work?
	The pill.
	Sometimes it doesn't work.
	Well, I don't know.
	I guess so much has to be.
	I mean, you don't have sex for seven days.
	So the friend gave the guy, I don't know, some antibiotic, told him it was something else.
	100%, yeah.
	I'm pretty sure that's a felony, but okay.
	That's why you're saying whisper it right now.
	I'm like, not on camera.
	I'm just saying, like, you can't be giving people fucking pills and I would assume that that's like the house.
	Yeah.
	So would you do that?
	What would you do?
	What would you do in your circumstance?
	I think you should just tell us about it.
	I definitely wouldn't like lie to them and say, hey, here's a fucking vitamin, but it's actually a fucking antibiotic that you might be allergic to and die from, but okay.
	No, yeah.
	Die from?
	Yeah, some people are dying.
	You could be allergic to it.
	Telemedicine, but anyway.
	Oh my gosh.
	I mean, so messed up on so many things.
	I suppose it's one step better than you hear stories of people like crushing up pills and secretly putting it in food.
	Yeah, that's valid.
	At least you said, here's a pill.
	I don't know.
	I don't even think there's no.
	I don't think there's any at least.
	That's a yikes.
	That's a yikes.
	Okay.
	Is it though?
	Is it the, what was your experience?
	I heard this and I was like, well, I mean, if you're not going to tell him, it's Rob, it's better than him living on.
	No, because they should have been aware of it.
	Obviously, there's a right.
	Yes.
	Obviously, well, it's more content to have STEM.
	Of course, it's wrong to give someone a pill.
	Of course, tell them it's something else.
	Yes, of course.
	It's also wrong to give it a penalty.
	But what would you have done if you were in that reciprocated position where you were like, I'm not going to be able to do that?
	I wouldn't have been a coward and tried to get away from the city.
	She probably would have come clean like every other sane person.
	I would have been cleaning up.
	I would have not.
	I don't know.
	I probably would have done that.
	Honestly, it was a girl, right?
	Did she know she had cleaned up?
	It was a female.
	Okay.
	It was a girl, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I mean, you're not, you don't have to convince me.
	Like, I know what the right thing to do was.
	This would have been like the play.
	Look, what she could have done, she would have come clean.
	She would have been like, hey, listen.
	I mean, if she wanted to, I don't advocate for lying, but like, she could have at least, in an effort to be transparent about the pill that she was trying to give him, she could have said, hey, listen, I've been asymptomatic with this for a long time.
	I just went and got tested.
	Maybe you fucking gave it to me.
	I don't know.
	You should have been back with him.
	Yeah, what the fuck is lying?
	Come on.
	This could have been a good time.
	It's very controversial.
	It's very controversial.
	It's probably the best thing to do.
	It could have been him very term, but that's not the same thing.
	I'm not saying that that's the best thing you could have done, but it's better than like lying about what medicine they're about to take.
	Two rights don't make it wrong or like same, same, but different.
	So I think he's.
	She could have, look, if she wanted to do a little white lie, she could have been like, look, I've been asymptomatic with this.
	You're the only guy.
	You gave it to me, take it.
	No, it's just, she could have been like, look, I was with a guy before you.
	I've been asymptomatic.
	This clears up really quick.
	Here's a pill.
	Like, she should have, look, you should have been upfront about that shit.
	Yeah.
	No, for sure.
	Yeah.
	Well, I agree.
	I agree.
	That's crazy, though.
	That's the one.
	I've never read that.
	That is a yikes.
	Let's see.
	You have some more stories from us for us.
	Me?
	Broke up with six-year boyfriend.
	I'm going to make a comeback right now.
	What does that mean?
	She was a big.
	You're starting to like rock him back off here.
	Mine are good.
	He asked me, what are good stories?
	I'm like, here, I got a lot.
	Okay, you broke up with your six-year boyfriend to fuck the guy you lost your virginity.
	Yes, that is a fact.
	Yes.
	Young age.
	At a young age.
	Yes.
	100%.
	I still shout out to the, hopefully that guy's still listening to this.
	No, I absolutely did that.
	I was, are you asking me?
	Wait, the five to six year one, that's not the most recent one going on.
	No, okay.
	No, no, no.
	But so you broke up with your six-year boyfriend.
	Five to six, yes.
	To fuck the guy you lost your virginity to.
	Yeah, to fuck is very vulgar, a vulgar way to put it, but yes, no, I was going to Sweden to visit him, and I was with a guy, and I genuinely, what?
	Nothing.
	Oh.
	What?
	She's just reacting.
	Oh, I thought you said something.
	I'm like, what?
	Wait, why were you visiting him when you had a boyfriend at the time?
	Wait, I had to.
	Well, yeah, we'll get really clear.
	Wait, it's okay.
	You had a five to six year boyfriend.
	Just a point of clarification.
	You were going to visit the guy who you lost your virginity to in Sweden.
	Yes.
	Yes, absolutely.
	Who had I been good friends with for a long time?
	And I told the guy that I was with, I said, I don't want to be with you.
	I'm going to visit this guy.
	Also, it ties into, I have the guy that I was having sex with when I was young has a best friend who's also one of my best friends.
	So I was going to see her.
	So you, but, okay, you broke up with him before.
	Yes, yes.
	But, okay, be honest, though.
	You were still in the relationship.
	Were you communicating and planning this fuck rendezvous with Sweden Man?
	No.
	No.
	I'll say that with my chest.
	No.
	But you said you were still close friends with him and like talking to him.
	Yeah, but we weren't communicating any fuck rendezvous or whatever you want to call it.
	Absolutely not.
	Do you think you can just be friends with the guy that you've fucked before when you're in a relationship with someone else?
	You know what?
	I do think when I was younger, I thought that.
	Now I would say absolutely not.
	I think that once I learned these lessons and did these things, now I'm like, ooh.
	Now I'm like, no, absolutely not.
	Only proved yourself wrong.
	Pardon me?
	Do you feel like you proved yourself wrong?
	100%.
	Yeah.
	I mean, like, if I hadn't learned that lesson that way, I would have never, I would have never known.
	I disagree.
	We already went through that.
	You can fuck people that are not friends.
	I think that's what I'm saying.
	We know what you're saying.
	I thought you're saying, can you?
	What?
	Yeah, wait, you can fuck them.
	Fuck people that are your friends.
	Yeah, we're saying, you can you should still be friends with yourself.
	No, we're saying you can't be friends with someone that you've already fucked.
	Wait, but I'm a little confused.
	Hold on.
	I don't think you can.
	I think it's too many ties.
	I'm just a little confused here because in your pre-show message, you said, broke up with six-year boyfriend to F the guy I lost my virginity to.
	So that makes it sound like okay, wait, also you asked, and I very frequently wrote it back to you.
	So if you're going to put it like verbatim for what I said, it's very vulgar.
	But no.
	No, absolutely.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	Okay.
	not upset with the language you used what i'm trying to point out i don't think you are But you mentioned the, you're making it about the word fuck.
	You said broke up with six-year boyfriend to fuck the, so it's.
	Like, just for that.
	So I'm asking you to.
	Okay, no, that's unclear.
	The reason you broke up with your boyfriend was to fucking.
	So yeah, that's unclear.
	And now.
	So why did you break up with your boyfriend?
	Because I knew I was going to see this person and I knew I was going to see them and visit them.
	So you're going to have to go to the bathroom.
	So you broke up with him, for example.
	Wait, whoa, You were bored with the relationship.
	You wanted out.
	You wanted out of that relationship for you.
	Yeah, so maybe I had that as a crutch.
	I used it as a crutch, yeah, to be like, I'm going.
	But you knew you were leaving and you wanted some fun or whatever.
	But like that relationship wasn't.
	But it wasn't for that.
	Yeah.
	That relationship was dead.
	Was it, though?
	It wasn't.
	It wasn't.
	Wait, it wasn't.
	It was.
	What are you saying it was too?
	You're confusing us.
	Can I try to summarize?
	Please, no.
	Well, unless, as long as we're going to have like an eye-to-eye respectful thing, but yeah.
	No, Peter.
	You're afraid of me disagreeing?
	No, not at all.
	Please disagree with me.
	I disagree.
	So you dated a guy for six years.
	Five to six.
	Clearly, it was like fading.
	There were feelings lost.
	How long did you know that the feelings were faded before you actually broke up with him?
	I don't know.
	I was too young to decide that it was a total learning lesson.
	When did you start talking to the guy in Sweden?
	Far before I ever dated the guy for six years when I was 12, when I was 13 years old.
	During the relationship.
	During the relationship.
	Wait, sorry, what?
	And continued to talk to him during the relationship.
	Did you talk to Sweden man the whole time you were dating this guy for five years earlier?
	But not talked like as like just like, did the boyfriend know?
	Yes.
	And then while you were dating him.
	And he was uncomfortable with it.
	And I was like, no, we're friends.
	And then it was very clear.
	Like, that's how we love it.
	And you can't talk to people you have sex with.
	And then while you were dating him, you dating the six-year-long relationship guy, you planned a trip to Sweden to see your best friend.
	Yeah.
	And then as that date was approaching, you realized, I'm probably going to sleep with this guy.
	Or somebody.
	Or somebody.
	So before I go on this trip, I need to end this relationship so I'm not technically cheating.
	Well, wait, you guys were breaking up.
	The way you're saying it is sounding off.
	It was very much over.
	That's not how it happened, but yes.
	It was very much over.
	But then you were going on this trip, and I think you were like, the trip gave me the excuse out.
	I was having a hard time.
	I'm like, oh my God, I'm in love with this guy.
	I love this guy.
	I don't want to leave you.
	This trip gave me the out.
	I'm like, I'm going to go and I'm going to be with my best friend Ida.
	I'm going to see this guy.
	There's a likely chance that I'm going to have interest in him.
	I'm going to use this as the out.
	So I'm going to break out with him.
	Trial breakup with him over.
	So what you said is accurate.
	So prior to the breakup, you knew you were going to meet up.
	What do you mean?
	Okay.
	I have a couple questions.
	So, was this like a summer trip?
	It was during the summer, yes.
	Okay.
	So, how I'm trying to gather the words for this.
	Sorry, I'm trying to figure out how to articulate this.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	How much time you broke up with him and then did you leave the next day to go to Sweden?
	No.
	How much time before you left for the trip?
	I mean, I couldn't say exact.
	I'd say like three months.
	Three months?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Three months before the trip.
	Yeah.
	You broke up.
	Well, I mean, how like you book a flight early and then you're like, well, I'm not feeling this anymore.
	I was very checked out.
	I didn't know.
	I was out of that relationship.
	Yeah, I didn't know how to end.
	I didn't know that we knew each other at that point.
	Years before, yeah.
	I didn't know how to end it.
	I was like, hey, I'm going to.
	This is a little bit redeeming because the way I was thinking is like, you broke up a week before you left.
	The next day was awesome.
	Yeah, three days of being in Sweden.
	You fucked another guy.
	That's not how it happened.
	No.
	No.
	But you did say that your motivation, the out, as you said it, was the fact that you knew that you were going to potentially be intimate with a guy in Sweden.
	Not intimacy that I was into, but not intimacy.
	I think just because I was still had interest.
	Yeah, like I just still wanted to go and like be hot girl summer.
	I mean, can we like the ties of the sky?
	But is it from your opinion?
	Say what you're saying because you're trying to sum my shit up and make it like whatever.
	What is your thoughts?
	What are your thoughts?
	Like I'm.
	No, it's clarifying what Brian was asking you.
	You, yeah, you might have been out of the relationship mentally, but the reason you ended it was because of another guy.
	Wrong.
	You know what?
	I actually like the way she's explained it, assuming everything checks out.
	I mean, I don't think people have to be chained.
	Like if it just the relationship wasn't working out, it's better than if she stayed in the relationship, went on this Euro trip, and like cheated on him.
	Right.
	So I mean, like.
	In that last year, you were.
	I mean, like, it was a genuine thought process.
	I was like, I'm not into it.
	Like, I've been with this guy.
	I'm not going there to fuck him.
	Like, I have intimacy in the past with this guy.
	I'm still, I'm still in communication.
	I'm interested in this person.
	I happen to fuck him, yes, or have sex with him, however you want to put it.
	But it wasn't in no ill intention or ill will to hurt anyone.
	It was a learning lesson.
	It was how I learned.
	Like, I'm not meant to be with this guy.
	I have this interest.
	I booked this flight.
	Like, here.
	Yeah, I mean, I think it's not the worst.
	I mean, how often do we tell people who cheat or want to cheat, how hard is it to just look?
	If you want to be with someone else, just break up, end the relationship.
	You did that.
	So.
	Right.
	I think the three months from the time you're going to be a little bit more than that.
	I would say minimum.
	Yeah.
	Minimum.
	Minimum.
	Yeah.
	You didn't end it to go to Sweden.
	To go have sex.
	No.
	That relationship needed for a long, long time.
	I'm just trying to fill in.
	No, I'm not saying that you did anything.
	I'm not saying you did anything wrong here.
	Okay.
	I think, first of all, it's a very, very common thing that girls will stay in relationships and sort of plan the breakup.
	They start to market themselves.
	I'm not going to impulsively leave someone if it might work out.
	And there's feelings that are still there, too.
	They linger.
	But you start to market yourself to other men before you pull the trigger on a breakup.
	Sorry, what was that?
	You market yourself to other men before you actually pull the trigger on a breakup.
	I wasn't marketing myself, it was just in my head.
	Well, look, you were technically marketing yourself to this guy.
	If you've dated someone and you've never been like, oh, this relationship just needs to end.
	I'm not thinking about anything else.
	I think what you're saying.
	No, absolutely.
	Isn't it the case, though, when women are starting to angle for ending a relationship that not always, but there's usually some other guy that 100% there looks.
	Every time, women are never single.
	That's basically the same.
	They're never single.
	You always have another guy.
	You always have another guy that's ready.
	I mean, I get it.
	I don't agree with that.
	I could see why, but no.
	I get me.
	I get what you're saying.
	I'll talk about that later.
	I'll be here all night.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh my God.
	Brian, you're getting rubbed in.
	Again, I want to make crystal clear.
	I'm not saying that the way that you went about it was wrong.
	I'm saying that you said in the earlier description that the actual catalyst for the official breaking of ties with the guy in the six-year relationship was the fact that you knew you had feelings for the guy in Sweden and were going to visit him.
	So by definition, maybe you didn't break up with him to fuck this other guy, but you broke up with him because of this other guy.
	There were other reasons.
	But even if I don't think that's the case, but even if it was, wouldn't you find that respectful that I was like, I'm going to end with you because I'm having other thoughts?
	No, that's what I just said.
	I said, I don't think you're doing anything wrong.
	What I'm saying is I think that this was accurate the way that you previously described it.
	You said, it was on the outs.
	I really wasn't feeling it.
	But then there was this other guy that I realized I have feelings for, so I officially got it.
	Not that I realized I had feelings for.
	That I'd had connection with in the past.
	And that, yes, come up.
	I mean, to add to that, too.
	Oh, go ahead, Madison.
	You were in contact with this Sweden guy the whole relationship.
	Totally, during the whole time you had your relationship with you.
	I'm not knowing your boyfriend was uncomfortable with it, though.
	That's what you said.
	That's what you said.
	Yeah, yeah, but me knowing that the whole time wasn't a fact.
	Okay, I know.
	I didn't know that the whole time until he made it a point, but yes.
	I want to give some advice to the men watching.
	If there's any young men watching, three things.
	Three things.
	Under absolutely no circumstance, especially if it's like a high school relationship and you're both going away to different colleges, under no circumstance should you do long distance.
	Absolutely not.
	If your girlfriend, I don't care what age you are, but you typically see this in like college relationships.
	Your girlfriend's going to do a study abroad program in Italy or Spain for fucking four months.
	Sorry, Nick.
	You break up with her.
	It's done.
	It's done, dude.
	Don't first, it's all obviously it's long distance.
	Bro.
	Unless you really do love her.
	I mean, if you have to be pretty fucking sure on the girl, but she's going to get it.
	Unless you're really shocked.
	What's an Italian name?
	For Lorenzo.
	I don't know what the fuck.
	You're going to get it in.
	Lorenzo?
	Lorenzo.
	Luigi.
	Mario.
	Mario.
	Third thing.
	$100.
	Miss Lowlife has three abortions and she's conservative.
	Can't 100% pinpoint.
	But something is wrong with her in the head.
	Her dad is a good citizen to disown that.
	Oh, my God.
	The tombstone will say from the streets she did emerge and to the streets she will return.
	Okay, Poe.
	Do you have a response?
	Do you have a response?
	I could just never have it in me to be that rude or mean.
	She's a good idea.
	And you have no insight onto my pre-abortions.
	And I am very conservative, and I am Republican, and I still stand by that.
	Okay, hold on.
	I got pushed back a little bit here.
	When you got the three, did you consider yourself conservative at the time?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's never changed.
	But aren't conservatives pro-life?
	Sorry, pro-life, excuse me.
	Pro-life, yes, they are.
	Well, they don't have.
	Just because all of them are pro-life doesn't mean we're not.
	Is that a serious thing?
	Do you guys not understand that?
	Like, being conservative.
	It doesn't mean everyone has a surrogate.
	I was not in the position.
	The babies weren't safe.
	I wasn't safe.
	I'm not going to bring a kid in for.
	Wait, does that not make sense?
	Just because you're conservative doesn't mean you agree with everything.
	I feel like it's so divided.
	Like, if you're conservative, it wasn't safe.
	I wasn't financially then on both.
	Yeah, but conservatives are naturally financial.
	Would you ever consider like a surrogate or adoption?
	A surrogate is when you choose.
	I couldn't have given the baby to someone.
	Just adoption.
	So you're pro-choice.
	When I consider adopting?
	Adoption.
	Adoption.
	Carrying out the pregnancy.
	Oh.
	Pro-choice conservative.
	I don't know if I could do that.
	I don't know if that's like if that really is.
	Well, that's selfish.
	But are you pro-choice conservative?
	I would have to call that selfish if you wouldn't consider adoption when you chose to abort the baby.
	Well, and that makes me selfish.
	I'm still conservative, and yes, I had three abortions.
	I get it sometimes whenever there's like a bad person.
	Because I know some women can't go through pregnancy.
	Actually, physically can't.
	But I think I've never ever been through that, so I can't say much, but I think that would take such a long thought process on abortion or like adoption.
	That didn't take me much.
	Yeah.
	No, no, you know, like, I feel like that's such a hard decision.
	But it never crossed your mind ever.
	What?
	Like, adoption?
	That did cross my mind.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	But you said it didn't take much thought.
	No, no.
	I had my mind made up.
	I wasn't going to stand by that with my chest.
	But isn't it pretty like one of the central pillars of conservatism is more so traditionality.
	I would say tradition rather than, yeah.
	Well, I mean, like, if you're like, if you're conservative.
	I went against that.
	I still consider myself curvature.
	So you're not.
	Wait, do you consider yourself pro-life?
	I don't want to answer that question based on my personal experiences.
	And you're conservative.
	I don't want to answer that.
	I don't think you have to fit into a box.
	That's what I'm saying.
	As long as you're owning up, like, I'm not pro-conservative.
	I think there's certain morals in either side.
	I think there's certain morals in each group that you're going to be in.
	I just think, though, if you have conservative values, you're more naturally going to be pro-life.
	I get what you're saying, but like.
	It's per issue, too.
	I mean, you don't have to agree with everything a conservative agrees on or everything a liberal agrees on.
	Look, here's the thing.
	Conservatives believe in a right to life and a right to self-preservation.
	That's a big reason why we're huge Second Amendment supporters, okay?
	We believe the most important thing is property and life.
	And the pro-life versus pro-choice argument comes down to whether or not you think the thing inside of you is a life.
	Okay?
	That's all I'm going to say.
	That's all I'm going to say.
	I mean, does it live with me to this day?
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Okay.
	But my point is, like, the conservative, I'll use the term doctrine for lack of a better term, but the conservative doctrine is one that protects life, doesn't destroy it.
	That's why he's confused at the time.
	So what would you say if I told you right now it wasn't up to me?
	Who was over to me?
	Would you believe that that wasn't true?
	Or what would you?
	We're getting into a very okay.
	So then we're speaking on something we don't have details on.
	I think that goes deep, and I don't know if Brian necessarily wants us to go.
	I definitely don't want to, but I'm just saying, I think I get where you're coming from.
	Sure, sure.
	And I mean, look, I suppose it's certainly plausible.
	Maybe.
	Well, I think I already asked.
	You said you, geez, I can't speak.
	It's getting late.
	You considered yourself conservative.
	I still am.
	When you know, you still are, but because someone could, in their past, maybe have been a bit more liberal when it came to the abortion topic, but after the fact, maybe they had a change of heart.
	I mean, even I think the original woman who was involved in the Roe v. Wade case, she actually, like, later on in life, she actually became a staunch pro-life person, even though she was like the one that happened a lot.
	That's a big question.
	You can't really.
	I feel like I just have a lot of sympathy for you because it's kind of hard when like pieces of your identity don't align because you're past, but you still like identify as conservative.
	Like personally, like I'm Christian.
	Like I have an amazing relationship with God.
	Am I liberal?
	Absolutely.
	You don't hear that much, but it's hard when your pieces of your identity do not.
	Well, let's talk about this.
	I'm just saying.
	It's hard when the pieces of your identity.
	But I can see where you guys are coming from.
	But I am sorry because you feel like you have to be in a liberal experience.
	I'm truly sorry, though, because I know things like that are really hard to do.
	But I do appreciate that.
	Yeah.
	But let's smooth.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay, so before Mike Davis came in and said his own.
	No, I don't.
	I don't have the energy or the mindset to do it.
	She called him rude.
	That was a good idea.
	Yeah, you're me.
	Mike Davis.
	You are.
	Wait, is that one of the guys that comments a lot?
	Yeah, he's.
	Oh my God, I was always a supporter of your comments until it was to me.
	Wow.
	Mike Davis, she liked me.
	I liked you.
	She liked you, Mike Davis.
	And now you've ruined it.
	No, it's okay.
	I'll forgive you.
	Never meet your heroes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So I was going to say three things.
	So I said, no long distance, no Euro, like if there's Euro trips, break up.
	And then the third thing related to your previous story is you do not date women who are friends with their ex-boyfriends or friends with people they previously fucked.
	Who are you talking to?
	A little advice for some men there.
	Oh.
	Who's waiting?
	Huh?
	I thought he was asking a question.
	If a girl, if you're friends with the guy who you fucked before, you are not girlfriend material.
	Goodbye.
	That one's a good idea.
	That's valid.
	I mean, you know, what I was saying about that earlier was if you, okay, if they're not talking anymore, they haven't blocked on everything and you still bring it up.
	That's what, that's why it's like weird.
	No, but she was homies.
	She was like still tight.
	No, no, no, that's what I'm saying.
	Yeah, that's not acceptable.
	That's an assumption.
	We were still friends, but yes, you're right.
	You're right.
	Knock down the wrong alley.
	Homies is fine, though.
	I think you can fuck anyone you want and be friends with everyone you want.
	What the fuck?
	See, but see, see, well, I get with you.
	You see that?
	I don't agree with that, but now it sounds like a crossing path, though, because I was still in communication.
	Women are emotionally stimulated if they still talk to somebody, they have an emotional bond to them.
	Correct.
	That arouses them.
	That stimulates them.
	100%.
	That means that they're still going to have a chance to fall in love with them.
	They're still going to want to fuck them.
	And if they want to fuck somebody else, they're not actually in love with you.
	Absolutely.
	I disagreed with this absolutely.
	I just love to think everybody.
	100%.
	Do you disagree with what he's saying?
	Like, a little bit, because I do love.
	I do love, but I love a lot.
	Yeah, but if you love a lot, that means love is just your equilibrium.
	I'm a love-imperson.
	That means that you don't love it.
	I have so much love.
	I have so much love that I just have to give it.
	I just have to fuck it out with 20 million people.
	I feel like you have very different forms of love, though.
	Right.
	Yeah, for sure.
	For sure.
	Like, you love your husband, but you also love your friends.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, I keep hearing you say love.
	Like, it's such a lovely person.
	There's no meaning to love.
	Yeah, partners.
	Those are different types of love.
	And I thought.
	I love my love language is a lot of fun.
	Like, I love her.
	I love the love language.
	My boyfriend.
	Like, I love so much lovely space.
	Her words don't have meaning.
	Yeah.
	Your words don't have meaning.
	That's her.
	But for me, my love language is so much.
	But no, she loves everybody, so she loves nobody.
	See what I'm saying?
	I don't love everybody, you know?
	But the ones I do love, I do want to fuck because that's my love language.
	You know?
	Friends and so I'm thinking, fuck your friends.
	Like, how is it?
	How's the dynamic I'm not doing?
	Like, it's normal.
	Normally, like, I would say, okay, so like, I would be when I'm at Panasonic.
	Anyways, when I would be at Panas House, like, I'm naked there 24/7, and it's a house full of, like, six guys.
	And none of them try to fuck me, except, like, I mean, I was fucking Zerka, whatever.
	But when I'm at the house, like, he doesn't even, like, he doesn't get all up on me because I'm naked.
	Like, I can just walk around naked and like sit on them and like cuddle with them and like do whatever.
	I wouldn't do that.
	I wouldn't do that with my friends.
	I mean, I just, I just do.
	I don't know why.
	I just feel like I'm like a naked cat.
	I just want to go sit on people's laps.
	Again, they're not her friends.
	They're just men.
	They are my friends.
	If I told you right now, then you should reconsider the quality of your friends.
	Would you take it to heart and maybe reflect on that?
	Why do you think they're not good friends?
	They don't fuck me.
	I mean, like, I have friends that I can guarantee some of them might want to initially have sex with me, but I mean, but they respect me on a friendship level.
	They care about me way more than what they can do or get from me.
	And they wouldn't sleep with me generally because they care about me.
	Most of them don't sleep with me.
	I just fuck Zerka.
	But how do you feel about nudists and exhibitionists?
	Like, do you think me being naked at a house is weird?
	Like, I just like to be naked.
	A little bit, especially if you have a boyfriend.
	Have you ever met someone that just like have you ever gone to like a house party or something?
	There's just a girl that's naked there.
	Everyone in the room, including me, is like, what the fuck is this bitch doing here?
	You got embarrassed.
	I've just never been in that party.
	I have.
	It's awful.
	It's like flats in there.
	Yeah, I'm usually naked 24-7 when I'm at houses.
	And I just think that I'm honestly, I'm so like, I don't know what the fuck people think.
	And if someone was uncomfortable, I'd just be like, bro, leave the room.
	I'm going to be naked.
	It's not a big deal.
	Everyone has a body.
	So you want the entire personality.
	I'm also a porn star, and I'm naked on camera so much that I don't feel like I don't feel weird when I'm naked.
	I feel normal when I'm naked.
	Do we even talk?
	Because there's so many people on the board here.
	Here, let me read some chats.
	Actually, Layla, can you read these?
	Go ahead.
	Do you immediately go ahead?
	Okay, the girl with the three abortions who accepts money from a lonely old man is being overly judgmental.
	Ma'am, you are in no moral position to judge someone doing.
	I'm guessing pornography.
	You killed three kids, and that couple is trying too hard to reject a perfect image.
	Wait, what is the last part?
	That couple is trying too hard to present a perfect image.
	They're talking about me and Billy.
	All right, well, you can say whatever the fuck you want about me, but they're not doing anything other than being a person.
	You are a perfect couple.
	Fuck off.
	And also, you're mean.
	Be fucking nicer.
	Come on.
	And you donated money.
	It's a great couple.
	Go ahead, Layla.
	I'm going back on my own word to do this one.
	Last time, but listening to Dan talk, I don't want to keep it to myself.
	He is so monotone, but I relate to him so heavily with his thought processes.
	And generally, how he tries and succeeds to be logical.
	Props, bro.
	That's nice.
	Last time.
	That's nice.
	Appreciate that.
	What's going on?
	What?
	What?
	We'll talk about it later.
	By the way, you're like the first guy who's told me that I'm monotonic.
	Usually people are like, you're way too up and down with the way you shoot.
	No, I think you've been monotone.
	Rax.
	Relax.
	You're too intense.
	Actually, when we first started dating, I did tell Dan he was too intense.
	It was actually a major ick.
	Really?
	I did have the ick.
	And then notice how, despite the ick, I didn't change, and eventually she was like, you had the ick for what?
	I had the ick when I met Dan.
	What was your response back to that because he told you?
	I thought he was too intense.
	She never told me.
	No, his voice, his tone was too energetic or something.
	This is what women do.
	Will test men.
	They're going to say things like, that gives me the ick.
	And guess what?
	If he stops doing that, they're going to be like, you're that easy to control.
	Yeah.
	Done.
	Shit tests are so easy.
	I hate your shoe.
	This girl cannot stand the fact that I wear vans.
	It's a great shoe for.
	It's a great shoe for lifting.
	It's a great shoe for just slipping on and taking a casual walk.
	They were clean.
	And I'm a tall guy.
	Little ankle exposure does wonders for my look.
	But imagine if she's a little bit ankle exposure.
	But imagine if she was just like, oh my god, those shoes are so ugly.
	And I went, oh my God, I'm so sorry.
	She'd be like, well, yeah, not that.
	But like, do you like appreciate her input?
	100%.
	Yeah, and then I buy him new shoes.
	And then you wear them and then it's all good?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	And by the way, she still wears the vans though.
	And by the way, if she ever said something to me that she legitimately thought, I think you need to change this.
	I love you.
	And because I love you, I'm noticing something that can dramatically improve your own life and your own self-image.
	She'd probably come to me in a much more serious way than just, oh my god, she's gonna be the ick.
	You know what I mean?
	So it's different.
	That's how you know you're gonna be.
	Word, word, one evening.
	I think we're all caught up on chats here.
	I'm trying to think what else we had to do.
	What's Tot saying?
	Let me see.
	Negative.
	I don't know where the fuck we were.
	Oh, there was, I think there was one last thing here.
	Then we'll do a brief after show and then we're gonna wrap.
	Okay, so is your friend okay?
	Is she good?
	She's probably pissing.
	She's okay.
	She's been in there in the middle.
	She ran to her car real quick.
	Oh, Nick, did she have to go to her car?
	Yeah.
	She might be gone.
	She might have to answer her phone call.
	No, she's coming back.
	I spoke to her.
	She's just dealing with something special.
	There's no way to get her.
	Okay, well.
	We'll have to have someone go down and get her, I guess.
	Maybe we'll have Madison do that.
	Two minutes there's shout out for intelligence.
	Oh, but she doesn't know which door to go.
	She doesn't.
	All right.
	So, sorry, guys, some girl just fucking walked off the podcast.
	She's out of the, I don't know what happened.
	Let's see.
	So, this is for Rachel.
	Modern dating is effed up in all sorts of ways.
	You said something about porn double standards.
	What did you mean by that?
	Porn double standards, only fans.
	Oh, shit.
	Sorry.
	What is the double standard?
	Are we still responding to her?
	Oh, is she in the bathroom?
	Yeah, she was.
	Are we still responding to Moose?
	She's coming back, and there's a much higher chance you won't be able to have.
	No, she's here.
	This is birth control history.
	Wait, what?
	What am I answering?
	Who's the child?
	You said something.
	Modern dating is fucked up.
	Yeah, I think that the and porn double standards.
	That was the other thing that you said.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Well, there's plenty of them.
	I think I've already voiced some.
	I just think modern dating is like very fucked up based on the way society says it comes into feminism, porn, only fans, everything in between.
	What else did I do?
	Okay, but you said the adult content double standards.
	What do you mean by that?
	Like a male, a male that takes like a conservative Christian, whatever perspective.
	And so some men will be like, oh, I would never date a porn star.
	And then like, you're jerking off to porn.
	Oh, God.
	Well, hold on.
	Okay, I have a rebuttal to that.
	I mean, I would love to hear it because I need an eye-opener.
	Because it offended me in my past.
	Like, someone's like, oh, I would never date a porn star.
	And then I'm like, you're jacking off to porn.
	Okay.
	I like to watch football.
	Me too.
	I have no interest in playing professional football.
	That does not make me a hypocrite.
	Okay.
	No, that's a valid.
	But fuck.
	Oh, sorry.
	But fuck, we're talking about like the sex industry, which a lot of us are saying, or some of us are saying and debating, that it is very vulgar, maybe volatile, exposes people, and some of the words we can't use.
	We all know that there's those ties to it as well.
	Wait, which ones?
	But the words would be.
	I think the way you originally phrased it was men not wanting to date a woman who a woman not wanting to date a male that's in it.
	I mean, I could never date a porn star.
	I know that's okay.
	So just let me know.
	Hold on.
	Let me try to articulate your argument.
	I can either.
	You're saying that if you consume porn, it would be hypocritical of you to not want to date somebody in that industry.
	Is that what you're saying?
	I guess that's kind of what I said, but no, I would say that you're like, that would, like, for me, like, when I'm saying I, like, think that there's like no logic in your job.
	That's fine.
	I'm not saying, like, I don't have to think, I don't have to think hard and do my job.
	I wouldn't say hypocritical to date somebody, but hypocritical to point the finger and be like, what you're doing is bad, but you're feeding into that's the double standard.
	I think you can't.
	To be like, yeah, I don't want to date that.
	I'm going to put a football into it is very like football pulls.
	You're pulling for that, which I get.
	But you're saying that.
	That's still a streaming service.
	You make sense.
	You're still streaming something.
	It's the same thing.
	And let's be real.
	No, but if your argument is, and perhaps I misunderstood, if your argument is it is wrong to consume a product but not want to, in this case, if you consume porn, it is wrong that you would not want to date or be otherwise romantically involved with a woman who does porn.
	That doesn't make you hypocritical.
	Okay, so I'm calling it a double standard, not hypocritical.
	What's the double standard?
	That's what hypocriticism is.
	I feel like you don't want to say that.
	Literally, the fact that you're not.
	Okay, wait, like, no, your boyfriend comes to you is like, okay, let's say you're my boyfriend and I'm like, hey, I want to do OnlyFans.
	And you're like, absolutely not.
	I'm not going to date an OnlyFans star.
	Okay.
	That's not a coherent argument.
	No, it's not.
	It's not.
	It's not coherent.
	So that doesn't make sense.
	My opinion is a boyfriend.
	So are you allowed to have the opinion that you wouldn't date a porn star?
	Well, of course, certainly I am.
	Okay.
	So I'm allowed to have the opinion that it's a double standard if my significant other was to say, or anyone for perhaps, was to say, I don't, I would never date a porn star, but I'm going to consume porn.
	The logic is not a danger.
	There's no way in shape or form that that makes sense.
	Let me try to address this.
	So the double standard would be if your boyfriend watches porn and he had an issue with you watching porn, that's a double standard.
	Him watching porn while in a relationship, which you may very well object to.
	However, that's not specifically.
	Okay.
	That's not what we're talking about, though.
	Exactly.
	If your boyfriend watches porn in a relationship, that's very different than his significant other being involved in producing porn.
	Yeah.
	You think so?
	Here's the thing.
	Here's the question.
	I open my mind.
	I open my mind.
	No, please.
	I open my mind.
	I've literally just disagree.
	The double standard, it doesn't follow.
	The double standard would be.
	What would a double standard be then?
	Let me just say.
	Not with a football reference.
	Yes, I will articulate it once again.
	The double standard would be if your boyfriend watches porn and okay, if your boyfriend watches porn.
	Okay.
	And okay, if your boyfriend watches porn.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's like, let me say, your boyfriend watches porn.
	If your boyfriend watches porn, and he had an issue with you watching porn, that would be a double standard.
	Okay, yeah, I get that.
	But saying, like, just because I'm not sure.
	Can I, okay.
	Okay, here's the issue.
	Touche.
	If a man, so what you said about men watching porn and supporting it, if he thought that if he thought that porn was objectively a bad thing that should not exist and should not be supported, should not be paid for, and was paying for it, that would be illogical.
	Like if he held the belief, like, oh my God, porn is so bad for society.
	That's what I was just saying.
	I think I can't believe that men actually do this stuff.
	The world would be a better place if people just stopped watching porn and then went ahead and did it.
	Then he would be a hypocrite.
	So that's the double story.
	But it's not the same to say, you can think that porn is allowed to exist and consume porn for whatever reasons you decide to consume porn and simultaneously and simultaneously hold the opinion that you don't want to date that type of person.
	Yes, I agree.
	Because you're consuming it as entertainment, right?
	Like I watch movies, but I wouldn't want to date an actress.
	That would be the same thing.
	And I'm not saying that that's true, by the way.
	But that's the equivalent.
	You're saying that.
	I don't know.
	That is what you're saying.
	Okay, but don't let her shift.
	I agree, but I don't agree.
	For some reason, I'm like, that's still a fucking double standard for you to be like.
	Okay, but let's not shift the whole post on her behalf.
	Her position, as stated very clearly.
	Ooh, take it away.
	Yeah, your position, as stated very clearly, it would be either hypocritical or a double standard.
	I still think that.
	I still stand that.
	Yes, you see that.
	100%.
	And I think a lot of people would.
	Let me officially just got my idea.
	You're right.
	She thinks it's a double standard for a guy who watches porn to have any objections to his girlfriend being involved in the porn industry.
	that is her position you need to realize these porn stars are getting yeah If that doesn't make sense, I live with porn.
	And maybe that's like we're saying.
	They're more logical.
	Women are more emotional.
	But if my boyfriend is going to be like, I would never date a porn star, like I don't appreciate porn.
	I don't believe in what they're doing.
	Okay, well, listen, that is going to consume it.
	It doesn't fucking be.
	It's kind of logic.
	If I didn't want to date an actress.
	Who's getting railed by?
	Yeah, but then it's different.
	Take it up.
	Football players.
	No, hold on.
	No, no, hold on.
	If I didn't want to date an actress, but I still thought films and cinema should be allowed to be made.
	Is that allowed?
	I mean, that's your opinion.
	I would never date an actress, but I still think movies should be annoying.
	I got some more.
	Do you ever date?
	Do you have any fast food?
	Do you have anything?
	Not often.
	But let's say yes.
	Let's say, think of a very high-powered woman.
	Like, let's say an attorney.
	Is she obliged to date a minimum wage worker at McDonald's because she eats McDonald's?
	That's really far off.
	Come on.
	Well, no.
	Literally randomly.
	I think you guys say that it's actually not very bad.
	My point is very valid.
	Maybe we could shake up shit.
	She's talking about the game, but no, I see it as one.
	Well, you're saying that it's because the fast food thing.
	Okay, they are buying the porn.
	Yes, they are.
	Okay, but design.
	We don't even have to say that.
	The person, but okay, they're watching it.
	They don't want to buy it.
	They're consuming it.
	Regardless, I'm going to finish my statement.
	Sorry, but it's just like he doesn't want to date a woman who is having sex with random people every single film.
	That is the only reason why he's saying, I can watch porn, but I do not want to date a porn star.
	Or if, like, he can watch an act, he can watch a film, but not want to date that actress who is making out with new people on set for every single film.
	You don't want that intimacy to be shared with someone else.
	It's not up for me, but I don't know.
	That's exactly the point.
	It sounds like consensus is you guys all agree with that.
	I don't.
	I'm so confused.
	I don't agree.
	I don't know if you're not.
	I don't agree.
	What is, so what is, sorry, I can't say the P.
	It's a preference.
	Like, P-word press.
	Are you because you want me to agree?
	P-word augraphy, right?
	It's videos.
	It's film, right?
	You call yourself a performer, right?
	I call it a mattress actress.
	I think it has a picture of the picture.
	I don't know.
	You picked on it.
	So you would consider a mattress actress.
	Yes, one second.
	Is trash made by trash?
	Like a trash made by trash people hammered in Munich right now for Oktoberfest.
	Lucky out, Oktoberfest.
	Yo, chat for October Fest.
	Mr. Meebal Donka Shein.
	Is that how you say thank you in German?
	But that is definitely clear.
	Okay.
	Is it really Dunkin'Shine?
	The real name.
	Donkeyshine.
	Isn't that thank you, I think?
	I'm using the film/slash videography or cinema, whatever example you want to use, just because I'm literally taking it up one level.
	I'm going from sexual actor to non-sexual actor.
	Okay?
	I can watch this and not want to date the person doing that profession.
	Same way that I can watch a movie and enjoy a movie and not want to date the people in that profession.
	It's the same.
	Okay, but what about you?
	Wait, assuming Satashi.
	What about you?
	You're not engaged.
	And not want to fuck adulthood.
	Wait, so I can make you boring, but you're not.
	I hope not.
	Dolphins are fucking dope, but I ain't trying to fuck a dolphin.
	No, I'm not going to.
	I can't watch the podcast, but not want to fuck Brian.
	Whoa.
	I know that's a good idea.
	That's like a picture of the picture.
	First of all, anybody who watches my podcast, man or woman, who doesn't want to fuck me, I'm deeply offended.
	But listen, oh, really?
	I hope you're very offended at that point.
	I mean, but you don't want to fuck me.
	I don't know.
	She's this girl.
	You're blushing.
	We'll give you a little bit of attention.
	We're getting a little bit of a drink.
	You're literally getting red.
	We've given you some attention.
	No, you're literally getting red.
	I'm looking at you.
	You're looking at me, and this is tension, and you're getting ready.
	Bro, I just have a red face.
	No, look!
	You're getting red, like, right here.
	You're literally getting red.
	Am I blushing?
	A little rosacea.
	I just.
	I'm about to win this bet.
	Bro, I'm just getting heated because I'm talking about dolphin fucking son.
	Sounds like your mind's on fucking.
	Whoa, what the fuck?
	Okay.
	Dolphin fucking.
	I don't know how we can explain this to you because it's just not like is the word tenuous?
	I don't know what the, it's like a tenuous position.
	Tedious?
	But no, that's in detail.
	I mean, it's in.
	We're not talking about TV.
	Just.
	Sorry.
	How is it a double standard?
	Like, I don't see how it's a double standard to, if you watch something.
	You don't see it?
	I don't know.
	That's how I see it.
	No, it's genuinely been an argument with my boyfriend.
	She thinks it's illogical.
	She thinks it doesn't add up.
	She thinks it's hypocritical.
	I just think, like, okay, you don't, you don't.
	That's a double standard.
	Porn hypocrisy, I can swear.
	Will you logically break that down?
	And then you're going to watch it.
	I'm like, come on.
	No, no, but stop shifting the goalposts.
	Okay.
	I'm not.
	I'm telling you what I'm saying by what you asked me.
	No, first, let's differentiate the two different arguments.
	So I agree with you on one.
	If you're like up on your high horse and you're saying porn is so bad, people shouldn't watch porn.
	Porn is contributing to the degeneracy of society.
	There you go.
	And you consume it, you pay for it, et cetera, et cetera.
	Yes, that would make you hypocritical.
	However, when it comes to your dating preferences, if you watch porn and you don't want to date a woman who does porn, that is not a double standard or hypocritical.
	I mean, it makes sense.
	You're probably right.
	But I, yeah.
	Can you be friends with someone that is porn and not date them?
	Can you be friends instead of dating someone?
	Like, can you be friends with someone that does porn?
	What's that not even?
	Is that an issue?
	Robert.
	That's a different relationship.
	She does porn, yeah.
	It's a different type of relationship.
	Some people are like, I hate porn so much, it's so bad.
	I'd only be friends with you.
	Wait, you can't see in any way, shape, or form.
	And then we can watch this.
	How it's a double standard.
	Can we just like agree to disagree with her on this topic?
	Like, it's not a double standard, but you can do it.
	It's a preference.
	It's literally, yeah.
	I don't know if we're going to be able to do it.
	Good deal.
	Moving on.
	Next.
	Here, this is, look, this is a double standard.
	Your boyfriend watches porn.
	I'll say it for the fucking third time, if I can even articulate it, because I can't speak tonight.
	Your boyfriend watches porn.
	It would be hypocritical or a double standard for him to have an issue with you watching porn.
	Or anybody watching porn.
	Yeah, because he is watching porn himself.
	But he is not dating the porn star.
	But just because you consume a pro just because you consume a product does not mean that in your dating life you are obliged to date a person who's not in any way, shape, or form.
	No, you're not obligated to.
	You're not obliged to date, but obliged to have emotion.
	What do you watch, Brian?
	I watch The Walking Dead.
	There's a bunch of fucking zombies in that shit.
	I'm not trying to fuck a zombie, son.
	But like you watch it, but you're not getting off to The Walking Dead, are you?
	Like, you know, like, I make you horny, but you won't date me.
	Are you getting off?
	Now you can understand where we're coming, though.
	He's getting not getting off to The Walking Dead.
	You can't compare it to that, a football team, whatever.
	You're not getting off to that.
	It's a very different thing to be watching than something you're jacking off to.
	No, I reject this idea that just because something is sexual in nature, that you are obligated to date somebody in that profession.
	No, I'm not saying you're obligated to date somebody.
	You're saying that it's a double standard to not date somebody in that profession.
	No, no.
	You said you'd be against dating.
	Exactly.
	Just so we get this clear note.
	Exactly.
	Yes.
	To say you wouldn't.
	And then you watch it.
	It's like, well, then.
	We can rephrase this as it would be a double standard if your boyfriend was to not appreciate porn, but still watch it.
	Okay.
	No, no, no, no.
	That's shifting.
	I don't know.
	I never know.
	Yeah, I think I stated it pretty clearly.
	Thanks.
	It's shifting.
	I'm not going to learn anything.
	No, it's because it's the terminology.
	It's hypocrisy versus double standard.
	We'll explain it later.
	But it's not even the double standard, though.
	It's not a double standard.
	It's not a double disagree.
	Agree, disagree.
	Yeah, let's move on to show.
	Okay, it just blows my mind that you can't, like, it's it's not logically consistent to reiterate.
	No, you know.
	What am I asking you to?
	I've tried.
	I've tried, guys.
	I've tried.
	It's not working out.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	Last note here I have.
	I don't know if we have time for, we might have a little bit of time.
	You said significant others having crazy parents effing his best friends.
	So you effed.
	No, I didn't.
	I didn't.
	So you're also, when you're reading this off, you're playing me as if like I wasn't just answering.
	You said any crazy stories and I list all of these things and I put slashes in between all of them.
	So it's not like any personal crazy stories.
	Yeah.
	Personal.
	Like when we're asking you, like, do you have any crazy stories?
	Like, do you have any crazy stories?
	Usually I was involved, but it wasn't me personally.
	Yeah.
	That is what I'm answering.
	So when we approach it and now we can't read it, what was I don't know?
	I'm waiting for him to get himself off a little bit more.
	Checking on a couple of things.
	Yeah, of what?
	What did you ask?
	The crazy parents fucking stayed.
	Oh, yeah.
	So any, what was the question, though?
	Was that number nine?
	Yeah, you're just telling us about it.
	That's it.
	No, but there was number nine.
	It was a question of what he asked.
	But crazy.
	So dating stories, yeah, I have crazy.
	My ex-boyfriend's parents are fucking crazy.
	So are their aunt and uncles, and they're still messaging me two months later.
	Really?
	For what reason?
	They get back with him?
	No, because they think I stole things from his home.
	That's weird.
	Yeah, we.
	Effing his best friend.
	What's the story there?
	Okay, so this is no story based on me.
	Is this, wait, is this number nine or number 10 when you said, how is it?
	Do you want to just tell the story yes or no?
	Just read it.
	I don't have a story.
	Yeah, just read what it is.
	That's what she says.
	The question is about question.
	I don't have the question in front of me.
	It's typically something like, okay, we have, there's three separate questions.
	Nine and ten.
	Okay.
	Number nine is something like, do you have any crazy dating related stories or anecdotes?
	Number ten is typically, is there anything on the show dating related, any topics that you would like to talk about?
	You would like to talk about it.
	11th is any hot takes related to date.
	Dating.
	Modern dating.
	So, so whichever one that was, yes.
	Do you want to just tell the story?
	I don't have a story behind it.
	If you said, is it a hot take or a conversation?
	That's a good question.
	Okay, there's something about effing his best friend.
	Is that you?
	What happened?
	Did you ever bang one of your boyfriends?
	Literally never.
	Literally never.
	Really?
	That's a hot take that I'm curious about.
	I definitely have.
	Pulling teeth.
	For what?
	For what?
	It's like pulling teeth.
	Okay.
	You don't want to talk about that one?
	Okay.
	I don't have.
	Yeah.
	In your pre-show information that you provided to us when we asked you these questions that you wanted, that you said that you wanted to talk about on the show.
	One of them is being the hottest friend.
	Okay, that's also a hot take we have.
	What is the, can I bring that up?
	Is it, does it have to be a personal story?
	Am I ending the conversation?
	Like, let's talk about it.
	Let's just talk about it.
	Why?
	You asked me a question.
	I answered them honestly.
	Anything I would want to talk about?
	I didn't know what you were saying.
	Yeah, so they're asking me though.
	That's why we're asking you to talk about it.
	I'm literally.
	That's a conversation of topic.
	I don't have a question, but like the whole panel?
	I mean, I don't know.
	No, these are directors.
	You need to hear from me.
	I'm literally you provided pre-show.
	Were you just talking about?
	Stop.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	Guys, stop, stop.
	Let me please just get through this.
	You provided pre-show information to us, okay?
	I'm giving you a layup.
	I'm giving you a prompt.
	You don't need to be like, Brian, do you want me to talk about that?
	How about just talk about it?
	Can you just talk about it if I bring it up?
	Is it a bad thing?
	Wait, but if this was genuinely, okay, I understand where you're coming from.
	From the bottom of my heart, it's more of like a panel.
	What will we all say about that?
	No, but do you have an actual story that like hidden to me?
	Or are you talking someone's best friend?
	No, or did you just want us to bring up the concept of that?
	Exactly.
	I thought I was, but you were asking me.
	What do you want to talk about?
	Talk about being the hottest friend.
	Wait, does that confuse you?
	Does anyone else have that?
	I don't think you can control being the hottest friend.
	What do you mean?
	These are words that you wrote.
	I know they are.
	I'm not taking them back.
	I feel like you're interpreting them and putting them out.
	You just generally want the whole panel to talk about the concept of.
	Brian's rage quitting.
	He asked.
	He literally asked.
	Absolutely.
	Brian just raged quit.
	Well, he's out here.
	He needs water.
	He needs to be able to do that.
	So, if I had DMed.
	I was parched from all that.
	Wait, what are you going to say?
	So, like, if Bangs had been like, I want to talk about feminism.
	Oh, no.
	I would have loved to talk about it.
	Your subject is, I want to talk about being the hottest conversation.
	I'm not getting the whole story.
	I just need a little bit of context.
	Like, what do you want to talk about?
	Can I answer them?
	What would you think about this?
	What's your thesis?
	No.
	No, no, no.
	Everything that I said is like, he's like, oh, what would you talk about on this podcast?
	I'm like, if I had those ideas, that would be.
	We fucking having a five-minute conversation.
	Well, move on then.
	You keep asking it.
	I'm trying to.
	No, we want to talk about it.
	I don't literally address the words.
	I don't either.
	It was if you had a concept, what would you talk about?
	Like, that's what I want.
	Yeah, but I think that's what we're saying.
	Oh, my God.
	So we have the concept.
	What do we talk about?
	What's the context of it?
	Like, we want to unwith me.
	With me?
	Yeah.
	I'm like, what?
	What does it mean?
	Being the hottest friend?
	What does that mean to you?
	What is the concept?
	No, no, no, please.
	Do not just let her speak.
	What does it mean to you to be fucking stressful?
	Can somebody give me a stressful thing?
	You can use it.
	Do you think that she wants to discuss you?
	No.
	I'm trying to roll into this, okay?
	Okay, I have a question about that.
	No, no, Watch, watch.
	Check this out.
	I'm going to ask a question.
	Everyone's going to be silent.
	She's going to answer.
	When you say being the hottest friend, what do you mean?
	Well, I'm not saying I am, but being the hottest friend is being the best looking friend.
	Like you want to being the best looking friend.
	Is that kind of like a bad thing?
	Do you think that being the hottest friend, like yes, I think that there's a lot of concepts and conversations that could go on about it, but if you're not going to be a little bit more like that, can you kind of bring up a conversation about friends getting out?
	You're the one that's supposed to guide me, right?
	Like I said these things in Assumption.
	Like you're going to be talking about.
	Well, no, we put you on the podcast token.
	You didn't need one that's getting hit on, like at the bars and stuff.
	Is that what you mean?
	I mean, that could be one avenue for sure.
	Yeah.
	What do you mean?
	Yeah, like your other friends don't get as much attention because they're not the same.
	The hottest best friend sitting next to me.
	She's quite frankly beautiful.
	She's just saying in general.
	I think that this is something that comes up in dating is being the hottest friend and especially with my past best friendship.
	But I mean, what does that mean?
	It means being the hottest friend.
	I think if you take, like, if I am fucking a guy and then I meet his friend and there's a hotter friend in the group, I'm like, damn, that sucks.
	That could be one right there.
	Yes.
	Brain's about to clock out for the week.
	Out of zero.
	Yeah.
	Tuesday show.
	Out of zero.
	Yeah, I think that that's anything else.
	Yeah, it sucks if you're not the hottest friend.
	Yeah, right?
	Because I'm the one that's.
	That's a fact.
	Yeah, I can agree with that.
	I can agree with that.
	Yeah, what else?
	I love having hot friends.
	Also, me.
	They're awesome.
	Having hot friends.
	Who doesn't?
	This is great.
	Can we talk about hot friends and bachelorette parties?
	What does it mean?
	He asked me and I answered him.
	The only one who could never be the hottest friend would bring up that she's the hottest friend.
	Wait, I wasn't saying I was the hottest friend.
	Were you referring to yourself?
	Never, no.
	Okay.
	I'm sitting next to the hottest friend in our friend group.
	Brian.
	Yeah.
	Dan and I have noticed a hottest friend theory, actually.
	When we were living in Nashville for a couple months, we saw a lot of bachelorette parties.
	And if you look at the way bachelorette parties are organized when they're walking down the street, it's always the hottest friends in the front and they progressively get uglier.
	Valid, and we were wondering why that is.
	Is it a hottest?
	No, are they trying to hide the ugly friends?
	Is it a marketing thing?
	I think they know that they're hot.
	And I think that when hot guys are in a group with ugly guys, they're going to be more confident.
	Like, it's always the morbidly obese ones at the back.
	I mean, because you can act a fool if you're hot and you can be in the front and be crazy, but if you're ugly and acting a fool, it's just not good.
	I've had her bring like a guy over who had a friend that wanted to be with me, but I was with the guy I'm with now.
	And he thought that the person who was also there with us, one of our other friends, wasn't attractive enough to be with.
	So they completely just flat out left.
	So being a hot friend actually does mean a lot to some people.
	Yeah.
	They just blatantly left saying that they were going to go buy stuff.
	It was too weak.
	I still hate this topic, huh?
	I'm going deeper into my cave.
	It smells so hot.
	I'm finding my power animal.
	Okay.
	Brian, what's your take on being the hottest friend?
	Okay, all right.
	You can, you can, whatever your natural responses are.
	What do you really think?
	I don't.
	I thought you had some anecdote related.
	I didn't.
	I'm sorry that I didn't.
	It didn't.
	It was a good conversation.
	I was genuinely dating podcast topics.
	Here, moving on, moving on.
	Let me see.
	You're not going to answer?
	I'm good.
	Okay.
	I'm all right.
	Thanks for at least giving me that.
	Okay, so last question.
	Actually, we'll do it during the...
	We're going to just start the after hours.
	We're going to do 20-minute after-hours, then we're going to wrap up.
	Nick, can you hit the lights?
	Ooh, is it like a disco ball?
	Okay, body count.
	We're going to talk about body count.
	We're going to hit up.
	Oh, also, guys.
	The minimum, I'm gonna lower the minimum read to 20, and then TTS is set to 69 from here on out.
	TTS is 69, read is 20, both Super Chat and Streamlabs donations.
	Okay, so really quick, body count.
	Does body count matter?
	We always talk about this.
	I have a really high body count, so I usually lie about it.
	I usually lie about my body count, but I don't think it matters for a guy because, like, I mean, as long as you're, as long as you're just clean, I've because I know people with tiny body counts have had SEDs, and I've never had one.
	I have a high.
	Hold the mic all the way close to you.
	Go ahead.
	There you go.
	Like that.
	Congratulations.
	Thank you.
	Anyways, yeah, I think it just depends on, like, hygiene, really.
	But, like, if their body counts, like, 300, like, that's a little, I'm like, okay, maybe you're not the one, but I'll still let you hit.
	But, like.
	300?
	Mine's not 300.
	But if someone's was, I've met people that have like 300 like body counts.
	I mean, I'm like important.
	How do they nut?
	Yeah.
	How can they still nut?
	They can still nut.
	Damn.
	That is the question.
	You know, there's also a decline.
	Like, body count, like, truly only matters if, honestly, like you're dirty or if you're still in love with the person who you've been with before or the people or you still have intimate attraction.
	I've always been a slut, so my body count's always been high.
	I mean, I try not to do that.
	I think.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	Body count does not matter, no.
	Body count doesn't matter, Madison.
	I do think that body count matters.
	I feel like I used to think that it didn't, you know, but as I've grown older, I've grown better values.
	I do see.
	I don't have like a range.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	Probably like anything over 10 is extremely high.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Really?
	Holy shit.
	I'm a slightly different.
	I mean, that's crazy, girl, motherfucker.
	Double digits are higher.
	That's high.
	I'm like damn I'm up there Yeah, but that's you, girl.
	What about you?
	What do you think?
	I don't care, like, in my partner, maybe because I haven't been in the place to like care or not.
	I don't know.
	I will say I'll be transparent that my boyfriend was a little taken back by mine at first, and he got over it very quickly.
	Okay.
	So she's good.
	I think body count matters.
	I just think it's unattractive.
	I don't know.
	I don't want to be fucking someone that's fucked a lot of girls.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I think body count matters.
	Yes, it does.
	Not even like morally, but if we look at it from like a hormonal factor, you get really fucked up after a certain amount.
	That's true.
	That is true.
	Yeah, it completely fucks with the way that your brain works.
	The same way that you can do like a dopamine detox because your dopamine gets attached to the wrong things, so does your oxytocin and dopamine attached to sex.
	If you constantly have sex with no intention of actually bonding with that person, you're going to lose the ability to bond with people with that tool.
	But what if you have passionate sex every now and then?
	Like not like hardcore fucking, but then like, because you know, there's like fucking and then there's like passion.
	Like, you know, then that's just beautiful.
	Yeah, of course.
	Thank you.
	Right?
	So I feel like another view on like why I think body count matters.
	Like if my boyfriend were to have like a very high body count, I would just be thinking of all the other girls that he's fucked.
	You know what I mean?
	Public and you're like, everyone around is fucked my boyfriend.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's what I was thinking about.
	I feel like it doesn't matter to me because I never had to be in that place.
	Like trying to think about it.
	I've never been in a position.
	Shout out to Paul.
	Oh, your body count's too high.
	I got endometriosis.
	I don't have one.
	What?
	You don't have sex like that, girl?
	Their round meatball donated $69.
	First girl is such a strange combination of fine and slow.
	Double digits isn't bad, but triple digits are bananas.
	The real Mr. Meatball, that is an amazing compliment.
	Thank you so much.
	Double digits are bad.
	Finally at 99.
	Good point.
	Very good point, Anson.
	And I don't think it's triple digits just yet, but it's definitely getting up for that.
	Stop it.
	Get some help.
	The real meat.
	So, you guys, I'll answer about body count.
	If body count doesn't matter for those of you, you know, what's your body count?
	I gotta look at my Twitter following.
	I like to follow every porn star.
	No, I follow every porn star fuck.
	I actually, I can look at it and tell you.
	Just, I mean, but you've probably fucked like civilians.
	Honestly, okay, before I got into porn, well, okay, let me say, my freshman year of college, I had a 40th body count party.
	So that was quite a while ago.
	I've already graduated.
	It was 40.
	Hold on, a couple questions there.
	How much by your first was it a semester or a quarter?
	Oh, honestly, it was February.
	It was the second semester.
	Well, how much?
	Never forget your first day.
	In your first body count.
	Never forget.
	You never do.
	It's like a birthday, you know?
	That was good.
	In your first semester, quarter, whatever was.
	Like, I've always been a slut.
	Like, it's high.
	It's high.
	I just love spreading.
	This is how I spread my love.
	Like, you're my friend.
	I'm going to fuck you.
	I've never had an SCD in my life, ever.
	I get tested.
	I've always gotten tested often.
	I've never taken it tested.
	I get tested every two weeks.
	I've never had one.
	I only fuck good-looking guys.
	I'm not like a dirty slut.
	I'm just like a slut.
	But anyways, back to the body count.
	Thank you.
	I'm going to ask you a string of questions.
	So before you even stepped foot on a college campus, what was your body count?
	Oh, honestly, not that big.
	Probably like seven.
	Okay.
	So seven going into college, had seven.
	First three weeks of school?
	Not a lot.
	I was busy in my freshman, my first part.
	And then my second semester, I was like, this shit's easy.
	Like, let me start fucking.
	Because I started just fucking guys, and I was like, this is so fun.
	Like, I love fucking you.
	Like, this is so much fun.
	So 40 years.
	And it would be a lot of like different.
	We had this contest because it was my best friend was going to see if she could fuck the entire basketball team.
	I was going to try to fuck every frat president.
	So, you know, like, how many frats were there?
	Like.
	Yeah, no, that's a.
	We came from a really big college town.
	It's full of, like, there's a whole, like, there is a whole STD called.
	And then I got all my friends in these parties.
	It was worth it.
	We have an STD called REA.
	We don't have any.
	There's a college.
	It's called Raider Rash.
	It's like, yeah, every single STD is a big fucking one.
	I swear to God.
	It's like bad.
	It goes around nearly.
	And hey, what are you doing?
	I love him.
	Okay.
	Why did he have some?
	Hold on.
	Wait, so you went from 7 to 40 in the span of like one semester?
	February was the one.
	Yeah.
	In one semester.
	I was fucking a lot.
	It was a competition, and honestly, I just like to fuck.
	And I like to fuck.
	Every guy I meet, I like to fuck.
	Bender the offender donated $69.
	Never mind the Grand Canyon comment earlier.
	She's more like Mariana Trent.
	I'm sick as fuck.
	What does that even mean?
	Mariana Trench, the deepest.
	Are you talking about my vagina?
	Let's just say that there's a vagina's all over the internet.
	No, I have a very, I have a very, y'all don't understand.
	Like, vaginas always, they stand back.
	And you can look at my vagina all over.
	It's all over the internet.
	And it's very tight, so tight that I tear so easily in porn.
	I have to take breaks.
	They around me ball donated $69.
	We should be friends, but damn, you're gonna be in triple digits.
	Hey, I don't think I'm in the triple digits yet.
	I don't think I'm in the triple digits.
	Hold on, we'll do the math on that.
	Let me just pull up one more read here.
	We'll come back to our conversation.
	GP is about to come up here.
	GP says, Welcome back, Madison.
	Hope you and Frankie are good.
	Layla, IQ and common decency aside.
	Sorry that it's taking a while to pop up here one sec, man.
	You're still in Layla, IQ and Common Decency aside, you're still a 9.4.
	If I was terminally, actually, can you finish reading it?
	If I was terminally ill with a week left to live, a week I'm streaming life to live, I would totally smash.
	Imagine it'd be worth the burning sensation in my final days.
	First of all, no burning sensation, just burning, powerful love sensations, because you're going to be in love with me after you fuck this.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So, okay, what about sophomore year of college?
	Oh, good lord.
	Sophomore year wasn't too much.
	Okay, I'm going to say probably a year.
	I think we got to get it up to like 67 by my junior year.
	Before I started junior year, probably around 67.
	Junior year.
	Sorry.
	67.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	Senior year?
	Oh, my God.
	Senior year, I wasn't fucking a lot because I kind of already fucked everyone I wanted to fuck.
	When did you start college?
	I started college.
	I got kicked out of my house at 16 and I went through this program, got graduated school early.
	Whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
	So you had a senior year in college?
	Yeah, I graduated in May, this May.
	Whoa, Okay, so 16.
	Wait, Hold on.
	So you're saying, well, wait, hold on.
	I don't know if you guys have caught on to this.
	Yeah, I started college at 16.
	You started college at 16.
	Your freshman year of college, you fucked 40 dudes.
	Yes, at 16, I fucked 40 dudes.
	I mean, when you're living in a college town graduating that young, you feel grown.
	Like, I thought it was a good idea.
	You do.
	We come to an extra story.
	I thought it was very cool.
	It was kind of normal there.
	It was normal.
	It was redneck.
	It was a redneck town.
	So it wasn't.
	I wasn't doing that.
	I wasn't having sex like that.
	Anyways, let me get out of these nasty numbers.
	Let's get over the 18.
	Anyway, so when I was.
	I already caught that, guys.
	Anyways, yeah.
	But, you know, senior year.
	Let's talk about senior year.
	Let's talk about senior year.
	Okay.
	Senior year.
	Oh, God.
	This is a.
	This is taking.
	I think I stopped counting at senior year.
	But definitely.
	Okay, I wasn't.
	67.
	Okay, so the thing is, I fucked all the guys I wanted to fuck.
	I'm from a small town.
	So it kind of stayed.
	I kind of just started redoing them.
	So it kind of stayed around 60.
	No, it doesn't count.
	It doesn't.
	So I kind of stayed around like 60-something.
	But then I got into porn.
	And that was probably another 50 up.
	Okay, so you're over 100.
	Well, the math doobie mathing.
	The math doobie math.
	But my vagina is amazing.
	Like, look it up.
	Wait, how old are you right now?
	I'm 20.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Just wondering.
	Men.
	I mean, porn, like, you know, it's going to go up in porn.
	Like, any porn star has a high body count.
	Like, you know, mine just was a little bit earlier.
	We cannot want the Overton window to shift to it.
	Okay, this kind of thing being acceptable.
	But okay, so.
	But I mean, in porn, like, you're going to have a high body count.
	Can you reflect that?
	If she has more than two.
	Oh, sorry.
	If she's had more than two bodies, she's for the streets.
	Who in the blue moon wants to use up the streets?
	She's for the city.
	You agree, don't you, Brian and Dan?
	I never said I wasn't for the streets.
	I never said I wasn't.
	I definitely am.
	Sorry.
	Wait, no, I mean, feel free to voice your.
	I love the streets.
	I love the streets.
	Yo, Brian for president.
	I can get behind that, I guess.
	So, okay, total body count over 100.
	Cool.
	What about you?
	Probably 12, if even that.
	12, okay.
	That's it.
	Maddie.
	I thought you said only the people that said body count doesn't matter.
	You've answered it before, so if you want.
	They already know what it is.
	Eight.
	Okay.
	11.
	And I'm in a three-year relationship, so you can kind of do the math.
	But you said, you said that your boyfriend, when you told him, I guess you told him 10.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	He was surprised.
	He was like, whoa.
	It was a little much for him.
	He has like very high standards for himself, which is like part of the reason I love him.
	Do you have a higher body count than he does?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	What's.
	Are you his first?
	No, Is he at the virgin?
	No, no, no, no.
	He's at like either half or a little less than half.
	Okay, so you're more.
	So, so yeah.
	But he got over it.
	What props do you think you're answering?
	Appreciate it.
	Okay.
	I'm under 10, for sure.
	Under 10?
	I'm fully not disclosing that.
	Thank you, though.
	Plus or minus 100?
	Not disclosing.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Billy, I mean, do you want to answer?
	I think it's crazy to present yourself as a sexual object on a stream in the world.
	I'm down for you.
	They're around me, Paul.
	Didn't I need to discuss it?
	It's like my job too.
	Two is definitely way too strict.
	Ten isn't even bad either.
	Thank you for the validation.
	Thank you for my impressive goal noticing.
	Ten's a little iffy.
	Ten's a little, it's a little iffy, you know?
	Really?
	Ten?
	Two is like, look, look, it's just an ideal thing, right?
	Ideally, the girl has a very low body count or is a virgin.
	Yeah, but when you're 20, 10 is actually crazy.
	Like, y'all think that?
	That's crazy.
	I would think if you're fucking one person a month, like a different person a month for a second.
	Yeah, that's crazy.
	It's not crazy anymore.
	Well, I've had a guy tell me his body count was 76 right after we had sex, and that was the most turn off thing I have.
	I've never attracted attractive.
	The way it does matter.
	I will say this to an extent.
	Don't tell me right after we had sex.
	As far as all the body counts here.
	Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
	You know what I mean?
	Just saying.
	Oh, God.
	All right, let me do a couple chats.
	Yo, Dr. Nablus, Layla, can you read this?
	Layla, stop using love and frack synonymous.
	You do not know love.
	Look at the term eros, agape, storgi, infilia.
	You might learn something.
	What you are doing is medicating life pain with sex is not the same thing as love.
	I genuinely.
	Billy and Dan are awesome.
	Y'all love and love y'all and pray for y'all.
	Brian, I hope to see Chase back.
	Sorry, I don't mean to grow me, boob.
	Man, avoid three.
	God, that was really fast.
	Men avoid 304 grifters like Tank Top.
	Wait, who?
	There's a lot of girls in Tank Top, so I'm not sure.
	Who this is.
	Here, I'll pull it up really quick.
	Panel, what are the responsibilities of a man and a woman in a relationship?
	Start with Layla.
	We're going to have to be really quick with these because we do have to wrap up here pretty soon.
	Responsibilities of a man and a woman.
	I mean, I want my manager.
	I want my mana to take care of me.
	Like, you be daddy.
	Like, I'll be like your slides.
	Like, I want my mana to take care of me.
	Like, just be daddy.
	Like, you know, like, just be daddy.
	What was the question?
	I couldn't answer.
	What are the responsibilities of a man?
	Oh, the responsibilities of a man are to take care of the woman in a way of actually helping progress constantly and not pushing everything to the woman itself or herself.
	Oh, God, be daddy for real.
	Okay, well, I won't say that.
	It's a little bit word salad, but okay.
	Yeah.
	I like the saying: men provide the house, women provide the home.
	That's yeah.
	That's exactly what I was saying.
	That's cute.
	That was my husband.
	I just think as long as you're each other's piece and he's your protector, like personally.
	Yeah, going off what she said, that was my answer.
	You support each other.
	Loyalty.
	Valid.
	Providing the feminine touch, I would say, is a woman's duty.
	Thanks.
	Protect and provide this man.
	All right, there you go.
	We have Layla, can you read this?
	Layla, I think your voice is very seductive.
	It's not weird, it's okay.
	But that honestly scares me considering the services you offer.
	Makes me think you're good at mind manipulation.
	What was the last part?
	I pray you use it for good.
	Yeah, well, there's a reason that me and Zirka are such a good couple.
	I got another one for you.
	You know?
	Read it.
	Triple-digit body count is bad, but three abortions is worse.
	Thank you, Georgie.
	Appreciate it.
	They're just coming out.
	You're not going to be.
	Madison, can you read this one?
	Damn, that body count is.
	We already did this one.
	My bad.
	My bad.
	Sorry, sorry.
	Sorry.
	Thank you, Mr. Meepa.
	Appreciate it.
	We have a couple YouTube-based chats here.
	We have Claudio Rogajan.
	That second to last conversation about double standards was literally the definition of insanity, Brian.
	Trying to explain something, expecting a different outcome.
	Though that's most of the conversations on the show now.
	It is what it is.
	It is what it is.
	All right, we got Joshua Goody here.
	Thank you for the Fortnite, man.
	I appreciate it.
	Thank you, Lieutenant.
	Oh, hey, man.
	She did not have a contest with her friend.
	Calling it a contest implies some level of difficulty.
	What her and her friend did is easy as Brian drinking that glass of water in front of him.
	That was not a contest.
	It was an easy activity.
	So you're calling men easy.
	It was pretty fun.
	So I enjoyed it.
	Calling those men easy at that point.
	It's easy for women to get laid.
	Like, it's not.
	Well, some men actually have standards.
	A lot of those are also just heads.
	So I guess some of them don't count as body heads.
	Well, men have like morals and standards, just like he does.
	Like, not all men are just down to fuck the first night once you hit them up.
	A lot of immature men that are still in college are.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Well, if it's specifically the frat president, not all of those frat presidents are down to fuck the same girl.
	Wait, what?
	She was saying she had a competition.
	It was a competition.
	She was going to fuck the entire basketball team.
	gonna fuck every frat president yeah that's not they're saying he's saying that's easy though All those guys are not that.
	Wait, who won?
	I think they all.
	She won.
	Oh, wow.
	She fucked who?
	You?
	Was it you?
	No, no, no.
	It was a different girl.
	Okay.
	Yeah, she won.
	Look, it's just like, again, easy mode.
	Like, only a woman can wake up in the morning and say, I'm going to get laid today.
	Yeah.
	With all certainty and have it come true.
	So let me see if we have any other.
	No, I think we're all cut up on chats.
	think the only thing we have left is what was your deepest darkest someone here has a deep dark secret Yeah, what was that about?
	Who is it?
	You said that so.
	I think we already talked about that.
	No, no.
	We wouldn't be bringing it up.
	I think that was just me, like, amping up the whole.
	You're just trolling or something?
	I don't.
	Yeah.
	Wait, so you're a Christian.
	Do we have time for this?
	Oh, yeah, we got a couple minutes.
	But you're Christian, but liberal.
	Yes.
	How liberal?
	Like, woke liberal or like kind of normal, liberal?
	There's no woke liberal.
	I feel like it's just kind of normal.
	I would say kind of normal.
	I don't know.
	You don't make it your personality.
	You do get it for yourself.
	I also am like very baby Christian, so like I'm still kind of getting to know like baby Christian, meaning like I'm starting to like go to church more and like build my relationship with God.
	So I am like at a starting point, but it is like a weird like feeling with your identity being like, okay, like I'm building my relationship with God.
	Like I love this, but also like I have very strong views about pro-choice and civil rights.
	So it's kind of like conflicting.
	That's all.
	But I'm also like 22, so I will change as it goes.
	You are so well spoken.
	I love it.
	Thanks.
	You're welcome.
	Sorry, just yay.
	Okay, last question here.
	Stiffler, ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
	Do you see the TV?
	I don't know.
	I feel like now I give myself an eight.
	I could have done my hair better, but you know, we're rocking at eight right now.
	Okay.
	I think I'm a solid eight.
	Nine.
	I always say eight.
	Stick with my answer.
	I'm going to say a 9.5.
	I'm going to say like 4 or 5.
	I feel like, oh, sorry.
	Like 4 or 5.
	Like, I never feel like I'm like the hottest girl in the room, but I never feel like I'm the ugliest girl in the room.
	I feel like I'm just very average.
	I think you're gorgeous.
	Thank you.
	But I feel like that's like a very real, I don't know.
	I'm like, well, if you're a four or five, like, no, honestly, it's not that fast.
	But I don't know.
	I genuinely need more time to think about that.
	I can't answer that.
	Okay.
	Take a minute to think about that.
	Come back to me.
	I mean, there's...
	Okay.
	You're going to get the same answer.
	6.7.
	Okay.
	That's nice.
	Was that you?
	Yeah.
	I said solid eight last time.
	I think I'm more of a seven and a half today, but yeah.
	It's around there.
	Okay.
	I'll give myself a six.
	I'll give myself six.
	I think you're a ten.
	I think y'all are all like so pretty.
	Wow.
	I do think you're higher than a six, if we're being honest.
	I do genuinely think that.
	I'm a six.
	I think I'm a six.
	But it is all the time.
	I think you're saying look at yourself.
	Just saying.
	This girl trying to fucking gas me up so she can fucking give me a BJ.
	Okay.
	All right, lady.
	Is it working?
	Not at all.
	Not at all.
	I'm immune to your fucking skin.
	Then why are you turning red?
	Even in this.
	The lights are red, son.
	I'm not red.
	Yo, this is gaslighting.
	She is gaslighting.
	She's a V light right now.
	I'm not sure.
	You are a gaslighter.
	Is it working?
	It's perfect.
	Flattery, I am immune to flattery.
	So you can't look me in the eyes.
	Can I compliment you?
	I'm looking at you in the eyes right now, Dork.
	I'm not 9 right now.
	Dork?
	I haven't heard that.
	Listen up, Dork.
	Okay.
	Oh, go ahead.
	Did you...
	What?
	She's like summoning a spirit or something.
	She's got poisons.
	Your rating on a scale of one seven?
	I would say like, I would say 7.58.
	Okay, cool.
	All right, sweet.
	All right, nobody crazy delusional tonight.
	All right.
	If Bangs was still here, though.
	Don't care.
	Not everything's intact.
	She would have said she was a 10.
	Actually, there's a crazy viral video that there was a back and forth.
	It got like 10 million views on TikTok, and I got pretty fucking drunk.
	Brian, such a douche.
	Yeah, it was pretty bad.
	Well, it was kind of clipped unfairly, but whatever.
	I mean, I said what I said.
	It wasn't bad.
	I just, she said she was a 10.
	I'm like, you're not a 10.
	Anyways, here, Madison, can you read this?
	I have a stronger.
	Actually, wait, Layla, read it.
	Layla, read it.
	I have a strong feeling Brian will take Layla up on her earlier offer after the show.
	Because if it was me, I would 100% follow it.
	Thank you so much, Lick.
	he definitely will be and I will definitely be coming back and being like there's going to be an essay for that to happen with a trophy With a trophy of cum in my hand.
	is that's where it goes in your hands That's kind of disappointing.
	I mean, if we were to flip it.
	I would be like, if it goes in your hand.
	Take a little bit.
	I would swallow for you.
	Don't worry.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm not going to get to that.
	Thanks, maid.
	Appreciate it.
	I'm getting somewhere.
	Anyways.
	She's kind of funny.
	I'm not going to lie.
	She's funny.
	I think this one's about me.
	Is this a girl?
	Yeah, if you want to read it, go ahead.
	White tank top, do I know?
	Do you know who this is?
	No.
	I'm going to just read it.
	White tank top must have plenty of bodies.
	Pay attention to her body language and her past acts and her past actions.
	The way she sat for the majority of the show is fairly masculine.
	So meaning like men take a lot of bodies or like I'm confused.
	Like you've had a lot of bodies, so you act like a man now.
	A lot of confusion tonight.
	My body count's actually super low.
	I'm just talking about the fact that your body count goes up.
	You might become more masculine.
	Yeah, but so that has nothing to do with my masculinity, if that's what you're saying.
	I agree.
	Billy on point, as usual.
	W in chat for Billy.
	Okay, I think we're all caught up.
	Guys, if you want to get a last-minute chat in, do it now.
	We're about to wrap up.
	Nick, can you pull up the Twitch really quick?
	Oh, he's on.
	Nick on it.
	Okay, yo.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow.
	Drop us a prime sub if you have one.
	Tarko, thank you for the prime.
	Troll, thank you for the prime.
	Level, thank you for the prime.
	Reaper, thank you for the reaper.
	Taco, thank you for the prime.
	Good name.
	Goody, thank you for the tier one.
	Guys, thank you for all the follows over there on Twitch.
	Whoa, there's a thousand viewers.
	We're going to raid a World of Warcraft champion after the show over on Twitch.
	So Texas Rider, thank you for the Prime.
	Smokeless with the XI.
	Thank you for the Prime Minister.
	I appreciate it.
	Let me see here.
	Do we have any other chats that came in?
	No, we're all caught up.
	All right, cool, cool.
	Let's see here.
	Let me just pull up.
	Anyone final thought while I get the Twitch raid going?
	My thoughts are done with.
	Clearly.
	I just want you.
	What's a button?
	Hold on.
	I got this.
	I got this.
	I'm a little late with it, but I'm going to pretend like you didn't just make my dick go soft.
	Okay, there you have it.
	So it was hard.
	Oh, my God.
	Why would you give her a punchline, dude?
	Like, it had to be a little bit of a drink.
	Was it a sub?
	Did I give her a set up?
	Basically, your dick was hard before you pressed that button.
	No, it was like, it was flaccid, and it's even more flaccid.
	It's a reverse boner.
	It's like it's gone.
	You know what I mean?
	I can't even have her talk to me about this.
	I'm coping right now.
	You're right.
	I know.
	Let's see.
	That, oh, there's a GTS.
	Fally, the blank trophy.
	Hold on.
	Let me retrigger it.
	Yo, Pub Test, thank you for the gifted five subs, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Can you read this?
	Layla?
	The trophy is the single grossest thing I've ever heard tonight.
	I need to bleach my eyes.
	I feel like you would have to bleach your ears or something, right?
	Because you heard it.
	You didn't see it.
	But whatever works better.
	It was pretty fun, though.
	Word?
	Hold on, guys.
	Still, I'm getting this raid going.
	Anyone, any other thoughts before we wrap up here?
	No.
	Do you have any thoughts?
	Do I have any thoughts?
	Yeah.
	I've been speaking all night.
	It could be one of your thoughts.
	Dude, I cannot.
	Brian tried really hard to just go straight face off, but he couldn't.
	Hold on.
	Sorry.
	I don't know why I can't get this fucking figured out.
	Because you're flustered.
	No, I'm not flustered.
	Dork.
	That's a really old dork.
	Dork.
	That word just reminds me of like dork diaries.
	Oh my god, dork diaries?
	I love that.
	That just brought back so much memory.
	Dude, it was like the girl version.
	Like, I'm not kidding.
	We're gonna.
	I don't know if Asmund Gold.
	Here, we're gonna raid Asmund Gold over on Twitch.
	I'll do the start raid.
	Okay.
	The people on Twitch, you might miss.
	Oh, wait, fuck.
	Wait, wait.
	Is it?
	Wait, hold on.
	Wait.
	I'm not ready to raid.
	Wait.
	Oh, I have to click the button.
	Okay, hold on.
	Hold on, guys.
	Okay.
	So, last call, guys, hit the like button.
	Please, on your way out, thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, supports the show.
	Thank you so much for your patronage.
	Thank you to the wonderful, wonderful panel tonight.
	Thank you to all our chat mods.
	Any women who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram.
	We will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Got a very good show for on Tuesday.
	Guys, we'll see you next time.
	Let me send the raid over on Twitch.
	We'll see you next time.
	Good night, guys.
	And 07's in the chat.
	07's in the chat.
	Good night, guys.

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