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HEATED DEBATE On NOT Reciprocating In The Bedroom?! | Dating Talk #99

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	Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce, excuse me, introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
	Go ahead.
	Hi, everyone.
	I'm Kathy.
	I'm 24 years old, and I am a OnlyFans creator.
	Welcome.
	Hi, I'm Pixie.
	I'm also 24 years old, and I do political streaming online.
	Hi, I'm Emmy.
	I'm 26, and I'm a realtor and also content creator.
	Hi, I'm Alessia.
	I'm 26, and I do OnlyFans.
	Hi, I'm Lauren.
	I'm 29.
	I'm a math, physics, science tutor.
	And I also do content creation on YouTube.
	Hi, I'm Amy.
	I'm 28.
	And I did high-ticket sales.
	I'm currently unemployed, so I guess I'm just doing content right now.
	Okay, welcome everybody.
	Guys, we were going to have a little more filled-out panel, but unfortunately, we had some no-shows and flakes.
	So it is what it is, but we're going to have a good show tonight, regardless.
	So we're going to go around the panel once more.
	What is your current relationship status?
	So are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule, sex cult?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	What's your longest relationship?
	Go ahead.
	I'm currently dating.
	Just dating.
	Longest relationship, probably like one year, a little more than one year.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So you said you're currently dating.
	So are you seeing one guy, multiple guys, a couple girls in there?
	I'm not entirely sure.
	Not entirely sure.
	You're not sure about their gender?
	It could be whatever it is.
	Whatever you want it to be.
	Okay.
	Non-binary.
	Okay.
	So you're not entirely sure.
	So do you have a main guy and like three side pieces?
	I feel like you got game.
	Do I?
	I think you got game.
	I think you could get the game.
	I have no game.
	The male bitches and the female bitches.
	You got no game.
	You have zero game.
	You look like you have game.
	Humble.
	And has game.
	That's part of the game.
	Can we have you tilt your microphone down just a little bit?
	Yeah.
	So it's perfect.
	A little less, a little less.
	Can you scoot it that way just a bit, OCD Brian over here?
	So give us some detes.
	What are the details?
	You got one main dude, a couple of people.
	Some thesis, I don't think I'm healed enough for an actual healthy relationship, but yeah.
	You don't think you're healed enough from you got like sepsis, or what's the situation?
	What's going on?
	Probably just like childhood stuff or like past relationship, whatsoever.
	Past relationship.
	But yeah, I'm dating currently.
	Okay.
	But so what do you mean?
	Like, what do you mean by dating currently?
	Like you're going on dates or you got do you have a situationship with any guys?
	Potentially.
	I mean, there's no label whatsoever.
	How many, okay, so you're dating.
	How many dates have you been on in the past month?
	The past months.
	With like individual new people.
	New people?
	A few.
	I don't really keep count.
	Okay.
	So you, I'm just, we gotta, we gotta get a number on it.
	You got seven boyfriends?
	Is that kind of the situation?
	No, it doesn't.
	Seven situationships?
	No, not seven.
	I would say more like two or three.
	Potentially.
	Two to three situationships.
	Are they all guys?
	Any girls in there or just dudes?
	Probably just guys.
	You might not even be interested in women.
	I'm just.
	I mean, I think it's up to the people to define what they are, who they are.
	And you can't really tell from the first date, can you?
	From the first date?
	Yeah.
	I'd hope so.
	Wait, so you're saying that some of them are trans?
	I don't know.
	I mean.
	It might be.
	Maybe.
	But that's what I'm asking.
	Because what do you mean you're not sure?
	Like, from a first date, like, if they don't reveal it to me, like, I'm not going to ask them.
	If somebody is clearly presenting themselves, like, okay, for instance, me, like, do you assume, like, what gender am I?
	I don't want to make an ass.
	You don't even want to make an assumption?
	You can't tell what gender I am?
	I can tell, but, like, if you tell me otherwise, I will respect it.
	Is there something?
	Is there something wrong?
	No, no, you're perfectly fine.
	I mean, I obviously can tell that you're a girl.
	So for you.
	Oh, so I am a girl.
	Yes, but if you say that you're something else, I will respect that.
	Okay, I'm actually, I just want to let you know.
	And I'm a hippopotamus.
	So, like, if I just say some, whatever I want, okay, I'm like, I'm.
	You should make a different animal because you're not, you're pretty trim, so I don't think hippopotamus would be the approach.
	I don't know if those identifies.
	Hey, hold on just a sec.
	Yo, FDG, thank you for the 50 gifted memberships.
	Guys, if you've been wondering why FDG is just dropping mad memberships in the chat on YouTube, I have a sugar mama.
	She's my sugar mama, and she pays me by gifting memberships.
	So she's dropping like 300, 400, 500 a show.
	So thank you very much.
	So you Lauren, non-binary, confirm or deny?
	Confirm.
	I don't have, it's like Barbie.
	I don't want to reveal the movie.
	Are we already getting into pronouns?
	I'm not going to be a Barbie down there.
	I'm actually a he.
	Wait, so you're a furry because you're a hippopotamus.
	I'm a furry.
	I'm a furry she's non-binary.
	I respect that 100%.
	All right.
	And then throughout the podcast, if you slip up and refer to me as a she, like, I could get mad at you and stuff.
	It's hip her, hip herself.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I'll try my best.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate you respecting hippotamus self.
	Okay, moving on.
	Pixie, what's your relationship situation?
	I'm single as a Pringle.
	Single as a Pringle?
	How long have you been single?
	Since like February.
	February.
	Yeah.
	Do you, are you straight by what's your orientation?
	I consider myself pan.
	Pan.
	Yeah.
	Pan, that's where like gender identity.
	You'll date men, you'll date women, you'll date transgender women, you'll date binary, you'll date transgender.
	Yeah, basically, what is it?
	I mean, it takes a really long time for me to feel like truly like in love with someone.
	So I feel like it just, yeah, it depends.
	I feel like it depends on the person, basically, if I'm going to end up being anything with them or not.
	Okay.
	So your last relationship was with a guy, a girl?
	It was with a guy.
	I've only have had romantic relationships with guys.
	Have you ever hooked up with a girl?
	I've made out with a girl.
	I'm not going to go.
	I don't want to go further beyond kissing and telling.
	Okay.
	For a life partner, who do you see yourself ending up with?
	Do you want a life partner?
	I do want a life partner.
	You want kids?
	Yeah, I do want to.
	Who do you see yourself ending up with?
	I don't know.
	A guy or girl.
	Because I mean, if you want kids, well, I guess you could adopt, right?
	Yeah.
	I also use the sperm bank.
	They have all these options where you can choose.
	Or surrogates.
	Surrogates.
	Yeah.
	I feel like, I don't know.
	Traditionally, I was raised in a very Catholic, traditional household, like conservative.
	So, you know, I'm sure my parents would be happy if I was a man, but it all depends on who I fall in love with.
	And you said you were raised in a conservative, Catholic household, but you're pretty, you consider yourself fairly progressive, fairly liberal.
	Absolutely.
	Do you think that because you were raised in a very conservative, traditional household, that that kind of pushed you in the other direction?
	I think.
	Or did you just come to your own conclusions about politics?
	Well, I think there's two things going on in here.
	Basically, my father, being the conservative he is, always taught me to never trust big government or just institutions in general.
	Sure.
	So obviously, growing up, I was also doubtful of him because the parental unit is the authority in the household.
	So yeah, part of me was like, okay, well, I should question government and I should also question everything around me, including my parents.
	i think um more than that i there's a lot of ideas of how like conservatism is supposed to be or how the traditional household is supposed to be and all the benefits it's supposed to reap and there are definitely benefits but i think um oh sorry hold on just a second i donated 100 dollars
	I would swim up the Amazon River with 45 pound weights tied to my scrotum with nothing else but Gorlock, the destroyer, squeefs as my air supply if it meant I could have one seafood dinner with Brian over Skype using a dial-up internet connection.
	My DMs are open.
	DM me and we'll get it set up.
	Thank you.
	Okay, appreciate it.
	Thank you for that.
	You're telling us about your parents?
	Oh, yeah.
	Thank you for the donation, Mr. I appreciate it.
	Oh, is this the bodybuilding.com?
	Okay, okay.
	Yeah, no, but basically, you know, people talk about like, oh, no, the two-parent household is like the best household ever, et cetera, et cetera.
	And I saw some ways that that's not necessarily true or some things that go against the traditional narrative.
	So I also think that kind of made me progressive.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Question.
	In your last relationship, how long was your last relationship?
	My last relationship was like around five to six months.
	Did you end it or did he or was it?
	I ended it.
	You ended it.
	Did you wear the pants in that relationship?
	Do you mean if I wear the pants?
	What does I don't know?
	Is that a sexist?
	No, I just don't know what you mean exactly when you're wearing a pair of people.
	Like, were you kind of the boss in the relationship?
	I think we each were.
	50-50?
	I think so, yeah.
	I think we're both the bosses in different ways.
	What were the ways in which he was a boss and you were a boss?
	I just, okay, I guess I never felt like we were the boss of each other.
	I just felt like we were just more like compatriots, just like discussing things and figuring things out and stuff like that.
	Were you ever in a situation where it needed to be like your call or his call?
	For example, were you ever in a situation where you had such conflicting viewpoints that it's like one needs to necessarily supersede the other?
	Or you never found yourself in that situation?
	Well, I mean, I get along well with people who I have very different opinions from.
	I know.
	We get along really well and we disagree on nearly everything.
	So, no.
	No way.
	But I feel like there was a time where he was like really upset about me because I wasn't texting him enough.
	I wasn't messaging him enough.
	And he was kind of far away.
	And to me, it's one of those things where I have ADHD really badly.
	I know it doesn't manifest super obviously here, but I do have it.
	So I am a little bit time-blinded.
	I try my best.
	I try my best with messaging, communication.
	But if you're expecting me to message you every day when we're dating, it's just not going to happen.
	I will forget.
	I'm sorry.
	That's just how I am.
	So he was needy.
	Yes, but who isn't in a relationship?
	Everyone's a little bit needy.
	Really?
	A little bit.
	At least, you know, you want your partner to be like, hey, I love you.
	I miss you.
	You know, you could say that's a little bit needy, but that's okay.
	Who liked who more in the relationship?
	Did you like him more?
	Did he like you more?
	Because I feel like there's always somebody likes the other more than the other.
	I don't know.
	I feel like I don't think there was a more.
	I think we were just too different in the ways that we liked people.
	Our love language was too different, you know?
	That bastard donated one hundred dollars.
	They're going hard tonight.
	Get in my belly.
	I want my baby back, Ribs, I want my baby, back, Fat bastard.
	Chili's baby back, ribs.
	Chili's baby.
	Uh, keep going.
	Continue.
	Big ados.
	Wait, are you laughing at the TTS?
	I was laughing at the TTS.
	It just felt awkward.
	Are you an Austin Powers fan?
	That was for Austin Powers?
	I didn't know that.
	I just thought it was super random.
	Oh, yes.
	Okay.
	Maybe that was before your time, I think, because you're what, 24?
	Yeah.
	So you were like two when that came out, probably.
	Four, maybe.
	Okay, whatever.
	Your relationship situation.
	So I'm currently in a relationship.
	Okay.
	And how long have you been in said relationship?
	Almost 10 months.
	10 months?
	Okay.
	And what's your longest relationship?
	Two and a half years.
	Two and a half years.
	All right.
	How did you meet current boyfriend, girlfriend?
	Yeah, boyfriend.
	He slid through the DMs.
	He slid through a dating tale.
	What's that?
	It's like a modern dating story.
	What was his opening message?
	So this was around the time where I just bought a house.
	And in my Tinder bio, I had, hey, let's go furniture shopping or whatever.
	I'm also a realtor, like, hit me up if you need to sell a house.
	And he slid through the DMs.
	We actually didn't match, but he slid through the DMs about how he had a ton of coupons that he could get really good deals on.
	And he was also verified before all the verification things were bought, so it went through.
	And I'm like, yeah, what's the harm?
	I'm super single.
	And yeah, let's test it out.
	So he's a musician, athlete.
	Oh, he's a director.
	Film director?
	Yeah.
	Film director.
	Yeah.
	So the strike is kind of.
	Does he do commercials, music videos?
	Yeah, commercials, music videos.
	He's lined up for some movies, but because of the strike, no movies, just commercials and music videos.
	So you're holding the.
	You guys live together?
	Yeah, right now we live together.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Verified, but he's talking about coupons.
	I don't know about that.
	Hey, it's economical.
	It's, you know, it's a big brain.
	I feel like how much will coupons save over the course of like the cutout coupons from magazines?
	What is he?
	Like, are you sure you're not dating like a grandma or some shit?
	I like the grandma vibes, whatever that is.
	Like, there you go.
	I think my grandma vibes are good.
	So my parents grew up in communism and they're very, very frugal, even though they're like hyper-capitalistic right now.
	But they've always taught me to save wherever you can and always reuse your trash bags and whatever.
	Yeah, reuse your old t-shirts into rags.
	Vietnam?
	No, in China.
	China.
	Vietnam was North Vietnam.
	It was communist.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And China made them communist kind of thing.
	Gotcha.
	Okay.
	Wait, so were you born in China or did you born in the US?
	I was born in Chicago, but my family moved to China when I was four-ish.
	Okay, so you went back.
	Yeah.
	Born in the U.S., went back, came back, gotcha.
	In Shanghai.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Sweet.
	So he slid into the DMs and that shit worked.
	Cool.
	Yeah, he was just really high effort.
	So he slid through the DMs, talked about the coupons.
	Like, oh, sure, but we weren't going to meet up for like another week or two or so.
	And he made like an entire pitch deck.
	So you know how film people do pitches on projects?
	He like made a whole PowerPoint presentation.
	Nick, can you boost the audio a little bit?
	Hold on.
	Oh, no, it's hard.
	I'm sorry.
	Is it?
	Am I too far from the mic?
	Sounds like a lot of work.
	He made a pitch deck?
	Yeah, like literally a PowerPoint presentation.
	I've never seen that before.
	So guys, take note.
	If you ever want to slide through, a pitch deck will absolutely put you in the forefront.
	That is the highest effort.
	It will get you the most attention.
	Yeah, what's he pitching?
	Can we see a copy of that pitch deck?
	What was the first profound slide in that pitch deck?
	So it was just about interior design.
	Like, oh, like, there's like little paragraphs in there.
	It's like, oh, here's like whatever vibe.
	I think bohemian this will look good.
	Oh, so he made you a pitch deck for your career and something relating to you.
	I thought you made a pitch deck about why he's an ideal boyfriend.
	Oh, no, no, no, he made a pitch deck about furniture in my house.
	Yeah, no, no, okay, do not recommend to make a pitch deck about why you would be a good partner.
	That's creepy.
	But if it's summer, first of all, practice four.
	Imagine this is like my way.
	I need to put this on one second.
	Wait, but okay, here's a question.
	Let's say he had not made the pitch deck.
	Let's say he had not made the pitch deck.
	You still would have hung out with him, right?
	I think it depends because there's always guys sliding through DMs no matter what, no matter who you are, no matter if you have a social media following or not, if you're just like hanging out on Facebook, whatever, there's always guys trying to slide through the DMs.
	Like, hey, you know, like, how are you doing, beautiful?
	Like, it could be like right place, right time, whatever.
	But if he did that, then it's like, well, like, that's effort put in, and I would like to show effort back and get to know this person.
	But if you weren't into him, I don't think the pitch deck would have been the selling point either.
	But we barely even talked, and on his profile, it didn't really have his face or anything on there at all.
	It was just like a profile.
	Oh, that's kind of sketch, but okay.
	No, but I knew he was a real person.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Wait, so how long do you think he spent on this pitch deck?
	He said only like 20 minutes, but I thought it was a cool pitch deck.
	So maybe like an hour or something.
	He's like, no, I'm just used to doing this with my projects and films.
	He probably sends like seven pitch decks a day.
	Oh, I'm going to make a fucking pitch deck.
	Just wake up 20 minutes, like, morning routine.
	He's just like, it's actually like he gets so much pussy from the pitch decks.
	No, he said he's never done that before.
	He said he's never done that before.
	And I believe that.
	That's okay.
	That's like when a girl is like really good at head and she's like, oh, it's my first time.
	I've never done this before.
	I mean, it's like, okay, shut the fuck up.
	Brian, do you know from experience?
	You're not a hookup guy, right?
	What are you talking about?
	Oh my god, you're like that?
	He knows the girls that give good men.
	if i've just never had so much experience with getting head from women that you would experience the type of woman repeatedly that would be like it's literally a meme though Like, this is a meme that you see online.
	But there's, I mean, I don't know if I've actually encountered a woman who's like, oh, I'm, I don't know.
	It's my first time.
	I don't know if it's going to be good.
	And then she's like, just fucking going to town.
	So you haven't experienced that.
	It's all these specifics.
	Yeah, they literally, there are memes about this about like, you guys haven't seen these memes about, oh, I've never done this before.
	And she's like, okay, puts herself in fucking doggy position.
	And she's just like, okay, you've never done this before.
	Maybe they have read a lot, you know?
	Maybe they're scholars.
	They don't have to be.
	And Cornhub.
	We do have experience with food kind of in a way.
	Like, you know, I don't know, popsicles, lollipops, like, I don't know.
	Can you really just take it?
	Alicia's just at home.
	Wait.
	Yeah, what's your go-to food for practicing BJs?
	I think a.
	I want an answer from all the women, by the way.
	On this.
	Corn on the cob might be.
	What the fuck?
	Does the dick have an STD or something?
	I don't know.
	Hey, Cran.
	That's size.
	It's like to the man, you're saying it's like corn on the cob to assume.
	I'm just saying for size-wise, like, I don't know, like, as far as, like, a realistic setup.
	A little different time.
	Wait.
	Wait, hold on.
	What do you mean, guys?
	Corn is not like this big, though.
	Like, I literally like to see.
	Wait, what are those like little mini?
	What are those fucking cards?
	The salad corns?
	The salad corns.
	What the fuck are those called?
	Chat, chat, chat, chat.
	They're like.
	Corn.
	It's like all size.
	My favorite food to practice on is Coke cans like this, Jay.
	My first time.
	Okay, my first time.
	Tell us the first food experience that you have.
	No, I was talking about my first time eating a girl out.
	It went really well.
	And it was my first time.
	It went amazing.
	And what about your second time and third?
	Every time it's great.
	I mean, I guess we're going to be able to do that.
	What part helped you accomplish that?
	We know about the corn first.
	Well, you know, they say gay guys are really good at giving DJs because they know their anatomy.
	So exactly.
	Do you consider yourself bi-gay?
	What's your flavor?
	I'm just bisexual.
	Well, we haven't gotten to your relationship status yet.
	So relationship status?
	Pitiful.
	I'm single.
	And I'm not really dating right now.
	Nothing?
	I'm completely turned off.
	Like with a woman, sure, but like men, I need some time.
	Why is that?
	I just always need time.
	Like after a breakup, I just got out of something like a couple months ago.
	A couple months ago.
	How long was that situation?
	It was only a couple months itself.
	And you're still not over it?
	I'm, no.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So you broke up, what, three months ago, four months ago?
	In June.
	June, July.
	Okay, about three months.
	So there's nothing since then.
	Zilch.
	No dates.
	No pussy eating.
	Nothing.
	Nothing.
	She's celibate now.
	I really am.
	Stop the cow.
	I don't believe it.
	Do they prove?
	Like, what?
	What kind of proof?
	Yes, I want to go through your phone right now, David.
	Because you're an OnlyFans model, right?
	So does this include work?
	And do you model with men?
	No, I don't.
	Oh, okay.
	Women and myself.
	solo content so it's like well not solo content with I don't think Women.
	Women are people.
	Women are people, too.
	Well, don't you want to repeal the 19th?
	No, I don't, but I do understand Pearlie's argument with repealing the 19th.
	I understand where she's coming from.
	She does girl-girl content and solo content.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So have you shot any?
	Well.
	No.
	Just me, just me, myself.
	Okay.
	Oh, and just you to do OF.
	What kind of content do you guys do?
	Is it solo content, girl-girl, boy-girl?
	Oh, so I mostly do like lewds, like lingerie and bikini.
	I don't really know.
	It's not full.
	Yeah, it's not full.
	You can't see like vagina and stuff.
	Occasionally talk, but like mostly like, oh, occasionally talk, but mostly pasties.
	But it's more like lingerie, lewd content, cosplay, etc.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Yeah, I do a lot of solo content.
	Just solo.
	Have any of you done any BG content?
	Like in the past?
	I tried BG content.
	Boy girl.
	Oh, no.
	I tried with a boyfriend, but we never put it out.
	Okay.
	Never posted it.
	I was just concerned about his well-being, you know.
	I think that would be a good one.
	Oh my gosh.
	Working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need.
	Slaves with white clothes.
	Reject modernity.
	Embrace masculinity.
	That's good.
	That's a good point.
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	777 quintillion, 777, 777 trillion, 777,777,777,777.
	Good luck in some cultures.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Tyler Duran.
	Appreciate it.
	Lauren, your relationship status.
	I am single.
	Yeah.
	How long have you been single?
	For life.
	For life?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	You've never had a serious boyfriend.
	No.
	Well, we might have talked about it last show, but I'm sure, well, we've got new people here.
	What's the longest period of time that you've maybe you didn't have an official boyfriend, but there was a guy that you were seeing for some period of time two months, three months dated six weeks people like to point out I dated Martin Shkrelli for like two years oh but you guys weren't boyfriend girlfriends
	No, because like I thought we were but then he yo FTG thank you for the gifted 50 memberships yo W W's in the chat for FDG there.
	Thank you so much Yeah, it was kind of like I don't know so I kind of thought we were heading towards a relationship and he did not and it was very on and off yeah for two years for two years and then he ended up going to prison for like seven.
	Yeah Nick can you just do a Google just for people who don't know who Martin Shkrelli is Nick can you just do a Google on on the other side were you dating him during while he was incarcerated or no I dated him like at kind of like the height of his like fame and like notario like all of this.
	Were you still romantically involved with him when like kind of the some of the not when he was in prison but while the court case was going on or yeah I like moved in with him for a brief period.
	No no no, just go the Wikipedia, go the Wikipedia.
	I moved in with him for like a brief period but like we're still friends, like let me just read this real quick.
	Martin Shkrelli, born 1983, is an American CEO, hedge fund manager and fraud convict.
	Shkrelli is the co-founder of the hedge funds ELIA Capital, MSMB Capital Management.
	A couple other things.
	Former CEO of Startup Software.
	September 2015, Shkrelli was widely criticized when Turing obtained the manufacturing license for the anti-parasitic drug Daraprim.
	Is it Dare Prim?
	Daraprim Dare Prim and raised its price by 5,455% from US $13 to $750 per pill.
	In 2017 Shkrelli was charged and convicted in federal court on two counts of securities fraud and one count of conspiracy for activity unrelated to the Dare Prim controversy.
	He was sentenced to seven years in prison and up to $7.4 million in fines.
	In the civil case, he was fined a further $64.6 million to be repaid to victims on May 18th, 2022.
	Shkrelli was released early from the low-security federal prison in Allenwood, Pennsylvania.
	So that's a little background on Mr. Martin Shkrelli.
	Have you talked to him since he was out?
	Oh yeah, we talk all, I think we talked yesterday.
	We talk all the time.
	Yeah, like he's a bro.
	He's a homie.
	Yeah, Wu-Tang forever.
	Harambe for life.
	He bought the rights.
	Bring back Harambe.
	He patented a drug.
	So he bought the Wu-Tang album.
	I actually have a picture of myself holding it.
	Wu-Tang.
	I even got to meet Rizza and hang out with him for a while.
	That's awesome.
	That's a pretty show.
	We'll give some background down that.
	So he bought the exclusive ownership rights to like one of their Wu-Tang clans, one of their albums.
	Is that correct?
	Yeah, so he's really into music.
	So he bought, they had an album, and I don't know if they knew how it was going to sell.
	So they were like, we'll have, instead of putting it out for the public, we'll have like an exclusive rights ownership to it.
	And so he bought it on an auction and he got it, I think, for like $2 million, which I think is pretty cheap for entire ownership of Wu-Tang.
	But then he didn't ever republish it for anyone to hear.
	So very select people got to listen to literally any of it.
	Yeah.
	And so you dated him for two years.
	Very on and off.
	I wouldn't have on and off.
	Yeah.
	Was it?
	Would you characterize it as a toxic relationship?
	I think we had really poor communication.
	I think he had really a lot of stress coming up with his court case.
	And so I think that it was just a really bad time.
	But I think he's doing a lot better now.
	I know him and his girlfriend, his most recent girlfriend, like just broke up.
	And I think he's pretty bummed about that.
	But he did have a pretty healthy relationship with her.
	And I think he's doing a really good job with creating healthy relationships now.
	So I'm pretty happy for him.
	When you first started dating him, was he at that point already embroiled in the criminal case?
	No, not at all.
	Not at all at all.
	Okay, so at what point in the relationship did the criminal case develop?
	Oh, kind of towards the end.
	So we were, so he got famous for raising the price of the pill, and I looked into it, and nobody was getting harmed from the pill.
	And so I reached out to him and I was like, I'm very confused.
	You're kind of made to be the enemy here, but it seems like you're doing a lot of research and development and helping people and yada yada.
	And he was like, oh, yeah, let's talk about it.
	I swing by UC Davis area frequently for my other companies in San Francisco.
	So like we hung out and then we just continued hanging out.
	And then that was like years before he was charged with anything.
	Like maybe a year and a half before he's charged with anything.
	And then he went to prison.
	And yeah.
	Did he try to hit you up while he was in prison?
	Yeah, he did.
	This is a collect call from the he had a prison style.
	Pizza visa?
	Peasle visiting.
	Yeah.
	Federal facility.
	Did he ever propose like a marriage to you so there could be conjugal visits?
	No.
	One time before he got in financial trouble, he was like, he's really into live streaming.
	This is so embarrassing.
	I don't know why I'm telling the story.
	He's really into live streaming and he took me to a Tiffany's and then he proposed to me in the Tiffany's.
	And then when I said yes, he said, just kidding.
	What a dare!
	What the fuck?
	Wait, sorry, did they bring out the champagne and everything?
	Were they all like, let's go?
	Oh my gosh.
	It didn't get that far.
	It was just like, it was like immediately like, ha ha, just kidding.
	Oh, my face of that.
	What was your response?
	You were upset.
	Oh, my God.
	It was mortifying.
	No, were you laughing or were you like, fuck you?
	Oh, well, keep in mind, we were on camera.
	And at the time, like, I didn't have like any social, really, almost any social media.
	And so, like, I just was like, I was just like, really wanting to be liked.
	So I was like, oh, ah, and then I like ran away to go cry and then I like came back.
	They told us not to trauma dump and I'm trauma dumping.
	I mean, that's a really interesting situation.
	I mean, he asked, but that wasn't to get conjugal visits.
	That was not for conjugate.
	Yeah, this was before he was in any legal case.
	He should have made a series.
	He could have gotten them visits.
	I don't think he cares that much about that.
	That's really good.
	I love that in a man.
	Yeah, he's like a jerk.
	I don't know if I'd call him a jerk.
	I just think that he sometimes thinks things are funny and he doesn't think through how harm.
	Like, I think he's just like, I don't think he realized, like, I think he genuinely thought that was just like a funny joke and something that would be funny on a live stream.
	I don't think he really thought about it from the female perspective and how devastating it is.
	Yo, FTG, thank you very much for the 50 gifted memberships.
	W's in the chat for FTG.
	Okay, so you were involved with Martin Shkrelli for a little bit, but it was on again, off-again relationships.
	So it is sometimes hard to count that.
	Yeah.
	Like, how do you like, were you dating?
	Like, are you dating for two years?
	But it was long off.
	So, what about besides Martin Shkrelli?
	Any two-month, three-month, six weeks?
	Have I had situationships?
	Yeah.
	Like, yes.
	I've.
	Besides him, what's like the longest situationship that you've had?
	I don't know.
	I've never had any like long-term situationships.
	He's probably the longest, and that was two years.
	I don't think I've had any situationships other than that that lasted like a year or anything.
	Gotcha.
	And you want to get married at one point, one day, have kids, etc.
	Very much so, yeah.
	Gotcha.
	Very much want to get married, have kids.
	Do you, and when it comes to like having either not found that person or not having had any other long-term relationships, do you think that it just be the men out here that be fucking up?
	Do you feel like there's maybe, is there something you're doing?
	Is it the men that are fucking up?
	What's your diagnosis?
	Yeah, I mean, like, there has to be something I'm doing, right?
	Like, I want something and I'm trying to get it, and I'm not achieving that goal.
	I'm working on it.
	No, it's hard to find, I don't know, other people do it, so it's can't say that it's impossible, but it's hard to find somebody.
	Like, I just want to go on dates and meet someone nice and take things slow and figure it out.
	But it is difficult to meet people to even just get an initial date with.
	You gotta check the DMs.
	And that's another thing.
	Yeah, I have, sure, I have like people like swarming my DMs, but like, like, what?
	So what am I supposed to do?
	Like, search through everyone, look through their pictures, and then go based off their picture and like meet them out for, like, that's really hard too.
	I do want to meet someone.
	I would prefer to meet someone organically.
	And, yeah.
	Morpheus donated $100.
	The Matrix is a system.
	That system is our enemy.
	You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged.
	And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.
	That's true.
	That's true, Morpheus.
	Take the red pill.
	Which system are you talking about?
	Relationship system?
	Definitely the relationship.
	I think it's the above.
	Oh, we got Mike Davis.
	Mike Davis donated $100.
	Thank you, Morpheus.
	Mike Davis.
	Where did you find this group?
	You put an ad on Craig's list seeking basic white girls.
	They all talk the same.
	What do you think?
	Nah, but for real.
	I can only laugh.
	These broads really in their head think they be special when they dime a dozen.
	Time a dozen.
	That's Mike Davis.
	Everybody, if you want to know, that's pretend that's.
	Oh, yeah, there he is.
	That was really rude, Mike.
	And am I not here?
	Like, we're all white today.
	We've had a white privilege today.
	We have two Asian women, and are you Latina?
	Part Afro-Latina, Mexican, and black.
	Okay.
	Native American.
	No, you're white.
	He just said that.
	We have white pants now.
	We all talk the same.
	I guess that's white.
	Well, Mike Davis, thank you very much.
	Good to see you back in the chat there.
	While we got some chats up, Space Monkey, Amy Dangerfield's video on Andrew Tate was question mark nair.
	Can we get a nair?
	Nair.
	Nair.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	Question mark, question mark.
	I don't know if that's closed with everyone to go.
	Yeah, it's a little vague.
	It's questionable.
	Okay.
	You did a video on Andrew Tate.
	I did, yeah.
	I did an analysis of the victims that came forward on my YouTube.
	Victims.
	Oh, shit.
	You don't know about his criminal charge?
	Well, let's keep it moving.
	All right, we have Dave Rogers here.
	Hello, my beautiful Ozzy Amy.
	Brian, anything special for episode 100?
	Also, bro, I'm okay.
	Was drag your name.
	Yeah, I'm not going to address like bullshit fucking shit like that, but nothing special planned for episode 100.
	Oh, yo, FTG, thank you for the 50 gifted memberships.
	Appreciate it, man.
	The goat, okay.
	You should all celebrate.
	Yay!
	Is this Twitch kick or the subscriptions?
	Oh, the memberships, that's YouTube.
	Yeah, it's on YouTube.
	And yeah.
	Amy, your relationship status.
	I'm single.
	My longest relationship was four years, which was my last relationship.
	Which ended about four months ago?
	Four months ago.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Your most recent relationship ended four months ago.
	Correct.
	And that was my longest, four years.
	Oh, your longest relationship was four years.
	Yes, which is the last one, which ended about four months ago?
	Yeah, I'd say, wait, it was in the end of May.
	So whatever that is.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Cool, cool.
	I had a question for the girls who do OnlyFans.
	So some people on OnlyFans can make a lot of money.
	Just curious, are you guys down to share how much money you guys make?
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	Is it five figures, six figures a month?
	Are you all in the top 1% of OnlyFans that make at least $2,500 per month?
	Oh, yeah, but so you're all the top 1%, the three people that are under 1%.
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	Point.
	What?
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	It fluctuates.
	It fluctuates.
	It also depends on if you're with a good agency, if you're putting out a lot of content on social media, it depends on a lot of things.
	I don't know what that means.
	I don't know.
	Do you guys talk to the guys that follow you?
	Do you have those communications or is it just the photos and the videos?
	Like on social media or on OnlyFans?
	On OnlyFans.
	I think it depends on if you have an agency.
	Sometimes the girls are managed.
	Sometimes the girls are managing.
	You personally.
	I do.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Do you have any men that consider you to be like their girlfriend?
	I feel like they do.
	I mean, we're kind of like selling a fantasy here, you know?
	Like, I feel like they might, yeah.
	Okay.
	Do you see any like potential conflicts with that?
	And do they ever ask to meet up?
	And how do you get out of like ever actually meeting them in person?
	Oh, I just very forward, like I say, I'm not comfortable with that.
	Like if they ask anything that I'm not willing to do or like meeting up or like any photos or videos I don't want to do, I just tell them I don't want to.
	Oh, okay.
	And so you have these guys who consider you to be their girlfriend and then they'd be like, oh, but can we get some, like want to get a drink sometime?
	And you're just like, no, never.
	I would say no.
	It's for like safety reasons.
	Reasons.
	I don't really want to meet up with people online.
	They're probably parasocial.
	Yeah, I think it's more parasocial than actually thinking you're a girlfriend.
	You're more like an e-girl to them.
	I don't think anybody thinks you're in a serious relationship ever because they understand that they're on a platform talking to you.
	It's not like you're actually talking on the phone or meeting up for dates and stuff.
	And parasocial relationships exist in a lot of capacities.
	People feel a parasocial relationship with their favorite influences and celebrities.
	But I think it borders on the line of a little bit more precarious and a little bit more, hmm, maybe this is not quite safe when you are so sexually involved with them as well.
	Because that draws on emotions that are not typical in the average parasocial relationship where people are just worshiping their social media idols or celebrities.
	You know what I mean?
	I think that's kind of.
	Right.
	I mean, and also, like, those people have security for a reason.
	Like, most celebrities that you see out have security.
	And you guys, there's just now all of these content creators who I don't think they're as careful about not letting the public know their whereabouts.
	And often they're actually really loose with letting people know their dox information.
	And it just seems dangerous.
	I think that's also one of the things.
	I think it's a bit of a cope when people say, like, oh, OnlyFans is so much safer than these other platforms because OnlyFans did not start as a content for that type of explicit content.
	It started off as like a Patreon of sorts, right?
	Where they had more relaxed kind of standards.
	And so when you look at the traditional sex work environment, strip clubs, you know, anything like that, there are guidelines in place.
	There are restrictions.
	There's like direct training on that versus with OnlyFans because it wasn't the platform wasn't explicitly started with that intent.
	I feel like that's lacking, which can almost cause people to fall into more precarious situations depending on what comes up.
	I feel like even Instagram is more dangerous in a sense because people are involved with your life emotionally.
	You're posting stories all the time.
	There's not like a stories feature on OnlyFans, for example.
	It's not like purely transactional.
	You can like communicate and comment and like be invested in a figure or social media persona like very, very intensely.
	And I don't see it like as that.
	There's also like the lack of, there's two things that are different than on Instagram.
	So now with Instagram, you can like post bikini pictures, you can post whatever, but it's not like overtly sexual.
	You're not like literally selling sex.
	I mean, you kind of are, but not explicitly.
	And then also the exchange.
	Marketing sex.
	You're multi-marketing sex.
	You're not selling sex.
	And then also, sorry, my second one was the exchange of money.
	I think people start feeling as though they have some sort of ownership over people or ownership over the women because they've paid some specific amount and therefore like they're entitled to I worry about people becoming possessive obsessive and feeling entitled.
	I just want to say as far as like the strip club or like other like walks of sex work I feel like OnlyFans is kind of like the safest because like with those you have to be With these people in person, as far as I don't want to say any words that I can't say, but like just other forms of sex work, like you know, because I used to do those, and I joined OnlyFans because it was like, I don't have to see these people, they know what I want them to know, and it was like just safer, like as far as that goes.
	She's talking about like what is the recourse, though, if someone was crazy because there's a lot of recourse and there are set protocols and standards in place with these forms of sex work that are like explicitly considered sex work versus something like EarlyFans, which is a little bit more vague, a little bit more ambiguous.
	Like, what is the true recourse for that?
	Do you know what I mean?
	Like, are there specific standards and protocols in place where people are even informing themselves about the potential dangers and how to be aware of them and how to navigate them if they were to arise?
	You know, I would just say it's like the same protocols as like if anyone was in danger, like, you know, police or like I've had in person, like, people follow me to my car and all these different things, like in real life or on your OnlyFans as a result of that, or like before I ever made a social media.
	But guys, cat call me, follow me in your cars.
	It's downtown LA, and all you can do is just like keep walking.
	But on OnlyFans, you can establish your specific boundaries.
	Like, hey, I'm not comfortable with this, this, and this.
	Here are some photo sets that you can buy.
	Here's how we can like chat, but it's very strict boundaries.
	I think it just depends on how you're able to establish boundaries for yourself.
	Because I feel like just existing as a woman is kind of dangerous in society.
	Like, if you're walking alone in like a bad part of town, I mean, it's actually more dangerous to exist as a man.
	Yeah, I think men actually do get more violently targeted, but it's always a lot of fun.
	Men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
	So, but women, violent crimes for sure.
	But I think when it depends on the menu, I just want to know who is the who is committing these crimes against the man.
	Men.
	That's kind of almost victim blaming.
	What does it matter what I'm saying?
	I'm just saying, like, it just feels like men, the conversation of safety and the world not being safe, it's like just comes back to men.
	It's not because of men, it's a very small proportion of men who commit these violent crimes.
	And they've existed since the beginning of time, and that's never going to change.
	It's with almost any that's with almost any group of people, though, for any stats figures.
	It's almost always a small group, but usually, like, if you divide by race or by gender or whatever, then there's a larger percentage within each categorized group and some as opposed to others, which makes these disparities seem large.
	Yeah, I think when people say, oh, it's more dangerous for men, it really depends on how you qualify that.
	Because I feel like if you're not- Just across the board, generally speaking, violent crime.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, because I was going to say, I think women do a lot of risk de-escalation as much as they can.
	So if women took the same actions as men do, then you might see similar numbers of violence.
	But what ends up happening is that women from a young age are socialized to, okay, don't be out too late at night.
	Or if you are, be with like a bunch of friends and like always like be careful walking to the parking lot and have the keys with you and the pepper spray and the 911 ready to call.
	And if a guy like flirts with you or comes up with you, think about all the ways that he can harm you.
	So I'm not saying that men aren't larger victims of like, let's say, street violence, for example.
	But I wonder if those numbers would change if women were more casual like men are.
	I think it just has to do with proximity.
	And then also like, yeah, gang violence is going to be like one of the main.
	And so it's usually gangs fighting against each other to tend to be men.
	Yeah.
	But like also like if you break it down by race, like black people tend to hurt black people, whereas white people hurt white people, Asian people hurt Asian people.
	Women hurt women, men hurt men.
	Just like it.
	I would say we're around.
	Men hurt women.
	So you'll see more men hurting women than women hurting men, but men attack men more than men attack women.
	Yeah, that's true.
	I think men, we just, I think it's a society that is the reason for this.
	Systemic thing.
	I wouldn't say it's just men.
	I would just say it's how they were raised.
	Is it raised or wired?
	like nature or nurture i don't think any of us were like um have much of a chance with the way that the system is set up yeah it's largely based on like socio-economic conditions too Yeah, I feel like I agree with that because I also was born and raised in China from Beijing for 15 years.
	I've never actually experienced such high amount of violence where I grew up.
	Maybe you could say it's communism.
	You could say it's like the government controls everything, but like this much amount of violence, it's kind of unheard of almost.
	I was like pretty shocked when I got here, to be honest.
	So sorry, you were saying in Beijing there's less violence than in America?
	I think it's simply because the government has more control.
	So wait, do you prefer communism then?
	I don't have a preference.
	I think I actually prefer here, but because people here can actually have their own voice, have their opinions, and then like be who they are, I think that could potentially lead to like more violence.
	Have you experienced with the communist government like governmental violence in China?
	I've not personally experienced it, but I've heard things.
	What's that face?
	Brian?
	I have no idea what the fuck this has to do with dating, but okay.
	So, we're at...
	We're not about violence.
	Okay.
	Okay, you were making the point, Pixie, that women, because the way they are raised to be more aware of risk.
	Like risk adverse, yeah.
	Okay.
	There was another part that you said after that that I had a point on, but it's updated me.
	What did you say?
	She was saying that if women are brought up to be cautious around men, which is why they potentially have less conflicts with men than when you were saying that men get attacked more frequently than women.
	But you could also argue that men have there's something within a lot of men, which is like a white knight thing where it's like told never to hit a woman.
	In fact, I think women have certain privileges on the street, for example.
	Like you, for example, let's say you're in some, you're walking in some bar or nightclub district and a guy comes up to you and slaps you across the face.
	There are totally strange men that will intervene on your behalf and essentially be your bodyguards for free that will defend you.
	However, if I just get slapped in the face by some dude and he starts trying to fuck me up, nobody's coming to save me.
	So I think that's actually a privilege that women have.
	You basically in a public area, you basically have male bodyguards that will intervene on your behalf that are total strangers.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	Like, I agree to a certain extent, especially like if a woman were to slap you, I highly doubt that you'll have any interveners.
	But if a random man slaps you, I think you'll have a high likelihood that you're also going to have strangers intervene.
	And then also there's been multiple issues, specifically during COVID, like when they started letting the trains run again, where women were being, you know, essayed on the trains in New York and sometimes for many, many stops and passerbyers were videotaping it and nobody was doing anything to help these women.
	So women do experience that as well.
	Yeah, I'll agree with you that in general, strangers are more likely to help a woman being beaten than a man being beaten by a woman.
	But women definitely experience times where strangers will not help them.
	I'm not saying that there's never a situation where a woman is being physically assaulted by a man and that it's impossible that a guy doesn't intervene.
	However, it's very, I would say it's very likely if there's other men around seeing a woman being beaten by a man, they are very likely to not just intervene, but beat the fucking shit out of the guy who's beating on the woman.
	Whereas if I'm getting attacked by another man, I don't know why you flip the genders.
	If I'm getting attacked by another man, there's no, it's very, very unlikely that other men are going to intervene to stop.
	And just to say something on that, so for example, when that situation does arise, when a woman is being beaten by a man and there aren't any defenders, oftentimes there could be missing context from the situation.
	so did you guys hear about the woman who got bricked in the face recently she literally got talked about that oh you don't want to talk about it um we don't We don't have to.
	I was just using it as an example because she was literally saying, men weren't standing up for me.
	Men are pussies.
	they're cowards, this and that, trying to paint this narrative, but there was a lot more to the context than...
	Mike Davis donated $100.
	Hold on just a sec.
	People keep thinking I'm anti-women when the fact is I'm anti-everybody.
	Most men are completely useless working dead end jobs just to throw the bread at some ethos.
	But they're self-aware and know they're losers.
	300 plus pound women think they're special.
	Crazy.
	All right, Mike Davis.
	There you go.
	The residents.
	He's on something.
	Thank you, Mike Davis.
	Appreciate it.
	I think that although in theory it sounds like, oh yeah, like, you know, men will be valiant and stand up for women.
	There's a reason why women are even given advice like, hey, if you're being assaulted or if some like strange guy is trying to attack you, instead of yelling like, help, like I'm being essayed, instead they say you should scream fire.
	Because there is like the bystander effect that there is, oh, you know, a lot of people, both men and women in the face of atrocities, freeze or think that somebody else called the police, somebody else is going to do something about it, regardless of gender.
	You kind of want to talk about why men defend women when they see them being harmed on the streets.
	I think most of the time, like the average woman's height is like 5'4 versus the average male height is 5'9.
	And there's, you know, a lot more muscle mass when just when you are a guy in general.
	And I feel like people tend to want to defend people who are tiny.
	Yeah, like just smaller.
	Like it's like if you see someone literally like beating the shit out of a kid or someone who is, you know, that cannot physically defend themselves, then you're more inclined to help.
	If someone's beating on an old person in a wheelchair, he's like, please stop that.
	Yeah, I actually, I agree with that.
	I think if there's a disparity in size or strength, I think there's perhaps even if it's two men, there might be a greater likelihood of intervention.
	And certainly your examples with if it's someone who's elderly, a child.
	I actually, yeah, that's a fair point.
	You said you had a question for me before you went up to.
	Oh yeah, I was wondering how many people you share your location with on your phone.
	Like just find my friends if you have an iPhone or Android.
	How many people I don't think I share my location with anybody.
	So I want to bring up that most women share their locations with other women and friends just as like a primary safety.
	Like, hey, if I go on this date, this is where I'm at.
	Something could happen.
	And it's just we're taught to always be cautious because things can happen.
	And then we get blamed if something does happen a lot of times.
	Like if someone drugs our drink or if someone ends up essaying us, like it's typically like, oh, we didn't take enough precaution.
	You always have to have an out, like, hey, like, I'm right here.
	Come pick me up, whatever.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Okay, let's fucking talk about something else.
	So, hold on, let me see if there's any chats.
	Let me get rid of this.
	I mean, as far as, okay, just really quick, me personally, like me not sharing my location, I don't go to bars, I don't go to clubs, I don't go to parties.
	So I'm not putting myself in potentially violent situations that often happen when you are, like, so I could, it's plausible that a girl that three times a week she's getting fucking tanked at bars and nightclubs, it's probably likely that she's going to be sharing her location with more people because she is putting herself in those sorts of when you're out at nightclubs and bars and parties, it is a vulnerable position.
	It's a vulnerable position for both men and women.
	Yeah, I don't share my location with anyone.
	Oh, yeah, I don't put myself in those situations where I feel like I would need to.
	I used to share it with my ex.
	You might need to just vulnerate that.
	And to be honest, when I came over here and I traveled to California, I kind of thought there, I thought about that.
	I'm like, wow, he's the only person who actually have my location and I'm here in this state where I don't know anyone.
	And I did think about that for a second.
	But to your point, no, I didn't.
	I'm not with a bunch of my friends.
	It was with one person.
	I mean, I don't really go to a bunch of clubs or bars or anything, but I always share my location no matter what with like my best friends, with just people that, even if we're just like having dinner or something, like, oh, just where did you park?
	And it's just like very casual for me.
	Right.
	But maybe it's like the location or like age thing.
	I don't know.
	I actually do share my location with a lot of people too.
	And I think it might be like a physical location thing because I live in the middle of LA.
	I'm not going to share where, but I don't feel safe walking around sometimes going, just going to the grocery store by myself sometimes, which is why I share my locations with friends.
	Also, I would point out, I think you mentioned the word feel, right?
	So I do think it's the case that women feel less safe.
	But like if you look at the actual data, the actual statistics, as far when it comes to violent crime across the board, generally speaking, men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
	They're more likely to be a lot of people.
	To be fair.
	But then you don't want to be harassed either.
	Even if they're not going to stab you, you don't want someone following home and like hit on you either.
	Yeah, sure, yeah.
	That doesn't sound, you don't want someone following you, of course.
	Yeah.
	Did you have something for this, Lauren?
	It sounded like.
	Well, just like you said violent crimes across the board, so I'd imagine those statistics, a lot of them would include like gang violence and then also men who are assaulting each other and then one is considered the victim even though they're both kind of at it fighting with each other.
	So I think that's going to inflate the statistics.
	I don't really know.
	Wait, what?
	You're saying that menu violence perpetrated by men, you're saying that's inflated by male versus male violence as well, which is being categorized into that statistic.
	Yeah, so like not so much just like random victims on the street.
	I don't think that like men are being perpetrated more often than females like in those situations.
	They are though.
	Also like mugging and stuff.
	You don't think your statistics are inflated by gang violence and other types of like violence among them?
	No.
	Male virus.
	If you probably removed gang violence, it would still be more likely.
	I think as brought earlier, it also depends like on type of violence.
	And that's why women are like more cautious as well.
	Because I think that there is a very big difference for people saying like, oh, you know, we got into a fist fight.
	Maybe there was like a stabbing versus like, oh, there was a potential stabbing and SA, right?
	Or human trafficking potentially or things of that degree.
	So I think that also, for a lot of people, it's like, would you rather be beat up or would you rather be horribly essayed?
	And I think a lot of people would pick like the beating up.
	Wait, so hold on.
	You're comparing SA to getting beat up, but like, let's talk about murders.
	Men are more likely to be victims of murder.
	Would you rather be essayed or be murdered?
	Oh, you don't want me to answer this question.
	I think you literally.
	Okay, you'd rather be murdered.
	That's, I mean.
	No, I mean, I don't, I don't think that's an answer other people should have, but it's not a fair comparison to say, would you rather just get into a fist fight or get fucking violently essayed?
	Well, no, but that's exactly the point.
	You're saying like, oh no, men overall, you know, they're more victims of violence, et cetera, et cetera.
	Yeah, they are.
	No, I'm not, I'm not saying that.
	Now, there's differentials in terms of women are more likely to be essayed, although women are more likely to be human trafficked.
	Women are more likely to be victims of domestic assault.
	We're talking about the money.
	Yes, in the United States, women are more likely to be aware of the money.
	What does that mean to be human trafficked?
	Just so I'm clear, are we talking like pimping?
	Yeah.
	Bent out, labor.
	There's labor trafficking.
	There's a lot of different types of human trafficking.
	You're more likely to be a maid than trafficked here.
	So basically, it goes beyond a lot of people when they think human trafficking, right?
	They think I'm a slave.
	Like I'm in chains or I am being like physically or you know mentally exploited, right?
	But what they're saying now is that the loveaboy method of human trafficking is also equally punishable under a court of law, meaning that like you could get the same level of punishment, prison time, everything for the loveaboy method versus any other forms of human trafficking, which are done by force versus coercion.
	So coercion is basically like making a woman believe that you love them, right?
	And then forcing them into sex work under some type of guise of relationship or cohabitation situation, which is what the tates are facing right now.
	That's Romanian law and that's Romanian law.
	Coercion is also applicable under US law as well.
	Right.
	Can't improve coercion.
	So you have like it's pretty subjective, but you're trying to show that there's some sort of power dynamic.
	So I read the Romanian law and I don't know the American law because I wasn't interested in it.
	And at least in Romania, they like specifically say that there has to be some sort of power differential where the person feels like a loss of control.
	And what they're trying to say in the Tate case is they have like some text message exchange in which now there's debate whether or not this text message exchange is real, but in which it seems like the Tates are saying like, let's get poor people and like let's get poor girls who will not be able to leave and yada yada.
	But there's doubt whether or not that's a real text exchange.
	There's doubt whether that will be admissible evidence.
	It's doubt whether or not that's about the women that are the prime victims in the alleged victims in the case.
	So yeah, but because technically approved coercion completely, like unless you have like physical documented evidence, like very difficult.
	It's kind of like a rape case, right?
	Unless you have the physical like evidence, right?
	And you're able to get a rape kit like immediately after that.
	Yeah, let's not talk about that.
	Rape.
	But sorry, it's very similar type of thing, right?
	Where it's highly subjective in the court of law.
	Yeah.
	Oftentimes, yeah.
	I have a question though.
	Okay.
	So when it comes to like DV, right?
	So you often hear interpartner violence that, oh, men are just beating women up en masse.
	But what's interesting to me is domestic violence rates are actually lowest amongst gay men and highest amongst lesbian women.
	I believe it.
	So that's a rate of reporting.
	That's kind of like the rate of reporting.
	Like you don't think women would report more likely than men.
	I think men don't report DV at all.
	I think there are a lot of abusive women out there who beat men up, but men choose to not report to the police.
	So you're saying, oh, I mean, that's almost further proven my point a little bit, but.
	Yeah, I think, what is it?
	At least from the self-reports, like separate from like, let's say, like, police reports, it still seems like there's a disparity.
	But I absolutely can agree with you that, yeah, like a lot of men are disincentivized from going to the police or reporting in general because there is a general stigma against men who are in these situations.
	And that's really sad and horrible.
	However, I would say that most men on average can overpower women.
	And if a woman decided to physically beat a man up, the man can stop them physically, just muscle mass-wise and height and weight-wise, weight class.
	I'm not, I'm not sure.
	No, this conversation is such a buzzkill.
	I don't want to talk about DV and SA anymore.
	Okay.
	What's the next topic?
	All right.
	Okay, wait.
	So, Emmy, for you, you said your boyfriend, and you said he made you this pitch deck.
	In your pre-show notes to us, you also said he made he gifted you furniture on the first date.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What did he give you?
	Like a duvet.
	Wait, not a duvet, a fucking.
	He gave me a tabletop.
	Because he just reached into your home, right?
	You said you just bought your harm.
	Yeah, I got my home around like a month before that me and him ever met, but we started talking like whenever.
	And I was on a Twitch stream and I was like, oh my god, my Ikea like tabletop is breaking down.
	And he was on the stream and he was like, yo, I got like a wood guy.
	I got the best wood in town.
	Like, ha ha.
	Hey, that's not the best wood in town.
	That's what got him.
	So he bought you just a tabletop.
	Yeah, he got like two big slabs of wood.
	Oh, he got you wood?
	He delivered me wood.
	He delivered me wood.
	Yeah.
	Did he also give you the wood?
	No, not on the first date, though.
	On the first date?
	Okay.
	Second date?
	Did he show up with some package?
	On the second date?
	Not like, you know.
	I think, yeah, I think it's like around second or third date.
	Yeah.
	What did he get you on the third date?
	We know what?
	Holiday time spent.
	And words of affirmation.
	And he's a sweet coder.
	What's your love language, Brian?
	My love language.
	Yeah.
	What are the five?
	It's physical touch.
	Words of affirmation.
	Gifts time.
	Quality time.
	And then acts of service.
	I want to say acts of service, number one.
	Physical touch.
	Quality time is pretty down there.
	Down there.
	You're spending time.
	You like to receive gifts.
	You like to give gifts?
	Gifts.
	I don't really give it.
	Gifts would be like.
	He loves gifts.
	Look at the donos.
	Don't know more.
	He loves it.
	Look at his facelight up.
	Every time someone gives, he's like.
	And his attachments to like certain physical items.
	Like you have some like emotional attachments to something.
	Yeah, like the very autistic.
	Wait, Brian?
	Yeah, let's diagnose Brian right now.
	Chat, what do you think?
	What's the other?
	Wait, so okay.
	Acts of service, physical touch.
	Quality time.
	Quality time.
	You said that's Lord Down.
	Gift giving is what we're talking about.
	Gift giving.
	What's the other one?
	Acts of service is top.
	Wait, what's the fifth one?
	Words of affirmation.
	Words of awesome Brian, you did so good.
	I'm proud of you.
	That was amazing.
	That was the sickest show.
	Like, the semi-filling OnlyFans Girl game.
	Yeah, I'm just gonna be.
	It's gonna be smiling and fair.
	They're all good.
	I like them all.
	I like them all.
	I don't know.
	I feel like the whole love language thing, though, is kind of bullshit.
	A little bit.
	I honestly like, I don't know.
	You go on categorizing things that's like humane.
	I guess.
	Yeah, because doesn't quality time include all of it?
	Like, is it quality time still if you just don't talk at all?
	Send me a stack of cash.
	You don't have to spend time with me, right?
	Also, with the whole Loren Lights, okay.
	With the whole love language thing.
	Like, for example, on the dating app, if you see somebody list their love languages, it's not clear to me if that's what you desire or that's how you show love.
	They tend to be both.
	They tend to be one of those things.
	I think I like giving gifts.
	Like, I like to, I don't know, make like a personal card for people, but not necessarily receiving that.
	You don't like to receive the cards.
	If you got a card, you'd be like, what the fuck is this?
	Why don't you hang out with me instead?
	Dumbass card.
	People tend to show people how they want to be interacted with.
	And so people, it's not always for everybody.
	So maybe you're an exception, but most people tend to do what they want to receive.
	Projecting.
	They're projecting, basically.
	So like I am pretty good at like painting and drawing.
	And that's like what my friends think is cool.
	So I like to make little crafts and things for my friends.
	Because you know, they'll appreciate it specifically.
	Yeah.
	But I don't necessarily expect that back at all.
	Yeah.
	Like if my friend is really good at like words of affirmation, if they're like an essay or poem person, I think like a poem is like, oh, cool.
	But I can't do that.
	Really?
	Someone hands you a poem and you're going to be like, oh, wow, I'm really active.
	I don't think I wouldn't be able to.
	I'm going to have like, oh, my birthday.
	It's like, oh, like, happy birthday.
	I just, you know, you're my best friend.
	Okay, there's some gifts that people really do think they're doing the right thing.
	And it is the wrong thing.
	Like, my friend, someone serenaded her one time to prom.
	And I just remember thinking, if someone serenaded me, I'd just cringe.
	I'd like to.
	I would.
	I'd point and laugh and call him data.
	Yeah, like I just want to feel so incredible.
	What if he was the best musician that you ever heard?
	Who's your favorite musician?
	Right.
	Like, what if it was Adele?
	They came to you and like they started playing the guitar or like DJing.
	Like so if Adele serenades me, I think I would.
	I think I would become because you're straight.
	So the male equivalent of Adele.
	Who do I like?
	I don't know.
	I don't even know if you're going to compare to that.
	Did you like One Direction?
	You have to admit you'd be about it.
	I'd be about it.
	But because on the skills, they don't have the skill to back it up, right?
	They don't have the skills to back up the grind.
	Honestly, even if they were good, I don't think I would like it.
	Because this guy was good.
	This guy was pretty good.
	Now they're trans.
	So now she's good.
	Well, I mean, that says a lot.
	But that's a good idea.
	i'm kind of that way with like a strip tease i'm just like oh my god you get a lot of ship teases gifted to you No.
	Oh, yeah.
	He's like, I've experienced this several times.
	Is that an active service?
	Or is that quality time?
	What?
	Where does that list?
	Is it gifts giving?
	I'm giving you my underwear.
	It's just like, oh, okay.
	Strip tease.
	I like it.
	It's cool.
	Oh, it's the opposite.
	You're just like, why?
	Bro, you don't need to put on some fucking performance for me.
	That's good.
	He just wants to get straight to it.
	Just get naked, get it done, get out, deliver the wood.
	Get out.
	That's why you're anti-OF.
	I'm just kidding.
	It's like, gets going to show you on a screen.
	The white T, the white T, right?
	Have you guys heard of that?
	What the fuck is that?
	You've never been white tee before?
	What is this white?
	I didn't know what it was till I was on Xena Stream.
	Wait, is this you just wear a white tee in November?
	It's a strict tease, basically.
	But like, guys give it to girls.
	Like, they take off their white t-shirt.
	You're guys in school.
	I've only been given white tees.
	Wait, so you don't like strict teases, to clarify.
	Wait, Nick, can you?
	Is she peeking the microphone?
	No, I'm just really loud.
	Nick, I need you to double check, make sure she's not peeking the microphone.
	I'm just loud on it.
	So Ryan won't like that gift that we planned to give him.
	That's so sad.
	What's up?
	We all had a surprise for you.
	Physical touch or quality time.
	So fuck it all.
	All right.
	I don't know what we were talking about.
	Love languages.
	Love languages.
	When it comes to gifts, first off, I feel like I don't receive a lot of gifts.
	But if I did, I'd be very – I'm a great receiver.
	Terrible giver, but great receiver.
	Love language is receiving.
	Those are the songs.
	I'm a fantastic receiver.
	Great receiver.
	Terrible giver.
	So you're bottom.
	No, not in like a gay sort of way.
	It's more just like when it comes to gifts and stuff.
	What do you mean you're a great receiver?
	Angel sex.
	Like you show a lot of appreciation when somebody.
	No, not even me.
	You just like gifts.
	So then you're an hour.
	Then you're not really a great giver.
	It depends what context we're talking about, but I'm a great receiver.
	You're not.
	Receiver of what?
	So you receive her of what?
	Of gifts.
	Oral sex.
	Nice thank you notes.
	He doesn't reciprocate the ROL sex.
	So does he reciprocate?
	Don't do that to me.
	You don't reciprocate?
	Do you reciprocate the gifts?
	What?
	That's so bad.
	Oh, my God.
	What do you mean?
	Why is it bad?
	Unless she is the largest labier in the world.
	Even if she has the largest laby in the world, I still don't do it.
	I wonder why.
	What if it's the largest dick in the world?
	That's exceptional.
	He's like, oh, yes.
	I don't know.
	Not all of us are like Pixie here where we're going both ways.
	Yes, I'm a giant whore, obviously, who sleeps with me.
	So it depends on the emotional connection, right?
	Yeah, it does.
	Oh, I'm so used to people who aren't.
	That's what he meant.
	He was saying you'll go for whatever depending on the emotion that you're going to be doing.
	Oh, so you're like sapiosexual or sapier is the master.
	I'm going to say intelligence.
	I don't think that's an emotional.
	That's fake.
	Yeah, I think that's fake too.
	But pansexual is the real one.
	Wait, so there's a lot of things.
	Pansexual is more like emotional based.
	I thought pansexual is like, I just don't see body.
	So I would argue it's more like that.
	So it's hard to explain, but the best way I explain it is the difference between bi and pan is that a bi person is like, I like chocolate and vanilla ice cream.
	Sometimes I like chocolate more.
	Sometimes I like vanilla more.
	Once in a while I like strawberry, whatever.
	And then a pan person's like, it's all fucking ice cream to me.
	You know, like, I like ice cream.
	I'm trying to find the meme about, oh, wait, I think I have it.
	Actually, if it's about pansexual people, no, sapiosexual.
	It's about sapiosexual.
	It's about pops and pansexual.
	Sapiosexual is not real.
	But it's like women will say.
	Demi Lovato.
	Are you saying Demi Lovato isn't real?
	No, she's not.
	She wasn't when she said she was bot.
	What did she say?
	She was non-binary.
	She wasn't when she detrops.
	They are non-binary.
	They are non-binary.
	But women will say they, I'm trying to remember what the meme is, but women will say they are sapiosexual.
	They're like attracted to really intelligent dudes.
	But then the dudes they end up dating are the type of dudes that like when they're reading, when they're reading, they have to like, they read with their finger.
	I think some girls are attracted to him both.
	I think some women love him both.
	Like, to have a guy who just like builds furniture all day, like, that's cool.
	You know, somebody reads like this, you know, like, uh, a damn plan.
	I think, uh, babe, you read it.
	Read this for me.
	I think a lot of, I think there are a lot of women who are attracted to, like, Chris Pratt types, like, in, um, what is it?
	Parks and Red.
	He's smart, though.
	No, but like in Parks and Red, his character, Andy.
	Like, I think, um, I think a lot of women prefer funny than smart.
	Like, if you can make somebody laugh all day long, I think they're like.
	Honestly, if someone's witty, witty is the difference.
	Because if somebody's witty, then they're clearly intelligent as well, because they're able to contextualize situations and make wine out of it.
	And that takes some degree of intelligence to be able to do that.
	So I would say it's almost like winny men.
	They're like, they're hot to anyone.
	Oh, it's universally hot.
	What's his name in the show?
	I think Andy.
	Andy.
	I think it's also, in addition to just being funny, I think it's also having a positive affectation.
	I think.
	Yeah.
	I think that's super hot.
	Like the guys that are like golden retrievers, like personality-wise, I love them.
	They're my favorite.
	Yeah.
	It's hard to be.
	Give an example.
	What do you mean?
	What's a golden retriever, man?
	Just like you can't bring them down.
	There's this guy that I went to law school with who was like that.
	And we took the bar together and like he was just happy.
	Everyone was like about to take this exam.
	He was just like happy and smiling.
	Sounds like my ex-boyfriend.
	And then I was like, how'd you do on the exam?
	Like I passed.
	He's like, oh, I failed.
	It's all good.
	Like I went to the bar.
	I went to this awesome festival.
	I had a great day.
	It's all good.
	My ex used to literally like rage.
	Hold on.
	Val Dev donated 99.
	Yo, good to see you in the chat, man.
	Welcome up.
	Philosophy is the place to be open your minds and get free.
	If you want a good night, go watch not so erudite.
	And if you want to fight the good fight, go watch my man, Stevie Knight.
	Those are some recommendations, but it's whatever and your endeavor.
	Yo, thank you, Val.
	Diev for the TTS.
	Appreciate it.
	We are going to have Stevie Knight on the show eventually.
	I'm talking to him.
	He'll be on the show.
	And we're going to try to get a couple other good people.
	We got some, I think some good guests coming up soon.
	Assuming, you know, no, we get, you know, people cancel things come up.
	But thank you very much for your TTS.
	Where were we?
	We were talking about gold and retriever types.
	I gave my point.
	Oh, my ex, he literally used to like rate Uber drivers and tip according to how much they talk to him in the Uber, like how good they are.
	Oh, that's my worst night.
	I would pay attractive.
	He's literally such a golden retriever type personality.
	It was my ex-boyfriend.
	All right, I got a chat here.
	We have You're Not a 10, Q for Nure.
	What are you looking for in a relationship?
	What do you think is enough minimum annual income for you to have a family with?
	What buffers do you think are best to keep a relationship together in today's society to combat hypergamy?
	I think that's a lot.
	Before you answer, that's a lot of questions there.
	We typically like to limit it to just one question per chat.
	So.
	I can keep it under tension.
	Try to keep it brief if you can, if you want to try to hit everything.
	Yeah.
	So what I'm really looking for in a relationship is a leader and somebody who is a superior to me in a lot of ways because I've been the opposite where I am leading either like physically, like financially, or intellectually in the relationships.
	How do you lead physically?
	By talking about like initiating sex.
	Yeah, that's one of the things for sure.
	And I've definitely been in that situation.
	However, I would say that for me, it's like when you have those traits, when you have someone who can lead in those respects, then naturally that's going to obviously show in your income and in your career.
	So it's not necessarily the income that I'm going for, but those proclivities and the ability to be able to display those characteristics, those leadership characteristics, to be able to be somebody who can support a family.
	Naturally, you're going to want someone who's a multiple six-figure earner.
	So I would say that that, because I make that, and I want someone who makes more than me, right?
	So that is absolutely.
	Did you say naturally?
	Naturally, I'd like.
	Naturally, yeah, because naturally somebody who is a leader, someone who is a leader, somebody who is able to exemplify those characteristics will naturally find a way to transpire that to their career because they're going to have some type of skill set that they can monetize.
	Otherwise, what skill set do they really have?
	I mean, sure, there are some skill sets that you cannot monetize, but generally speaking, I mean, I think if you're looking for somebody who has those character character traits that we're talking about here, they're going to make money off of it, right?
	Yes.
	And a leader is never broke.
	A good leader.
	Do you guys, you're currently seeing somebody, you're currently dating seven people.
	You're properly single.
	I'm a hermit.
	But you guys, I mean, I know that a lot of girls who do OnlyFans are typically, well, not typically, but it sounds to me like you guys are high earners yourselves.
	Do you make more than your boyfriend?
	We're like about even.
	Okay.
	I guess right now I make a little more.
	You're getting me on strike right now.
	Easily.
	Yeah, like right now, like I make a little more, but that doesn't matter.
	Okay.
	Do you guys want somebody that makes more than you?
	Or how about as much or more than you?
	It would be nice.
	I feel like lately I've been, I've always felt like I wanted someone to make more than me, but I've gotten into relationships where it was a bit of like a weird power dynamic.
	And the men that tended to make more than me, they were just a bit more like, I'm sure it's just the ones that I came in contact with, but just a bit more like arrogant and controlling.
	But then there's the men that make less and they're insecure.
	And it's just like, I don't know.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I feel like I honestly, I just want somebody that's like good to me.
	It doesn't really matter like what they make.
	I mean, as long as I'm not taking care of them.
	But.
	Yeah, my last ex, or I guess like during the pandemic, he, we, so we met when we were both working in tech.
	We were both programmers, but during the pandemic, we both quit because the company was only fun when there was like a whole campus.
	Like it's like there's a meditation room, there's infinite alcohol, there's all these outings.
	So when the pandemic hit, coding was a miserable job.
	So we both quit and he never got another job.
	So the whole time I had to pay for everything like housing costs, food, and all of that.
	And I did not have a good time.
	This was during the pandemic.
	Yeah.
	How long was the relationship?
	So I would say like around two.
	We never made it official.
	We just kind of like started hanging out more.
	Yeah.
	So like around two years.
	Sorry, you never made it official and you're paying all of his expenses.
	Yeah, so we started hanging out more and more because we were like Carpool and like, so when we were co-workers, we just kind of got closer and closer.
	And it was never official, like, will you be my girlfriend?
	It was just like, we just.
	Surely there was some mutual understanding.
	Yeah, guys, we're exclusive, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, because I wasn't really just never said it out loud, but that doesn't really indicate that you guys wanted a relationship there.
	Yeah, it was like situationship, but I was taking care of him because he was like, oh, we have nowhere else to go.
	Well, I feel like as a woman, especially if you're taking care of a man stuff, you assume he's exclusive to you.
	Like, can any of you ladies imagine being in a situation like that and you find out he's fucking around on the side?
	Like.
	Oh, hell no.
	Yeah, so it was like an exclusive arrangement, kind of.
	And but I have so what you're saying, Amy, is that if women really want to get commitment from men, they gotta start being the breadwinners?
	Is that what you're saying?
	No, that's like literally not what I'm saying at all.
	I was just trying to point out.
	I actually think it's the exact opposite because I think that when you go for that dynamic, it automatically you are conflicting with so many factors in evolutionary psychology and just the way people are in general.
	There's already going to be so much friction in the relationship.
	So actually, I think quite the opposite.
	I was just trying to prod a little bit deeper to really get your perspective on it because I'm not sure I quite fully understand what the dynamic looks like.
	Let me just jump in here really quick.
	Perhaps I should reframe it a little bit.
	So do you think that's a fair trade-off in order to, because a lot of women complain that men aren't prepared to commit to them?
	Do you think that'd be a fair trade-off for women?
	They have to, the women have to be the providers.
	They have to be the breadwinners.
	They have to take care of Veek's expenses.
	In exchange, they get commitment.
	That just sounds like a bad move.
	He is the protector, right?
	And then by default, you have a woman who submits to him.
	So what I'm saying is if the standard was reversed, which I do not necessarily think that it should be.
	I disagree.
	I don't think that it should be.
	But if it were to be reversed, then wouldn't the man have to naturally submit?
	Otherwise, what's the point of the inversion of it?
	Yeah, I think men don't naturally submit, and that's the issue.
	Like, if he were to cook, clean, and like me buy him a gym membership, work out, whatever, I'll be totally fine with it.
	But he didn't cook, he didn't clean, he didn't really do much, and he was like kind of resentful towards like all the social media stuff I was doing, even though I was also going to grad school.
	And it was just like very chaotic because he was insecure.
	I think he naturally wanted to be a leader, but he couldn't at the time because of the pandemic.
	But even if a woman is the breadwinner, it's not clear to me if women want men to be submissive, even if you out earn the man.
	Well, I feel like a way where he's willing to be.
	Sorry, Pixie, one second.
	I feel like a woman who's willing to be in that type of a relationship.
	Ryan underscore OG donated $100.
	Ladies, is flowers on the first date a red flag?
	And Brian, when is Real Natch coming on?
	We'll see.
	We'll see.
	We got a lot of people that want to be on the show, but Ryan OG, thank you very much for the TTS.
	Flowers on the first date.
	So we'll come back to this really quick.
	First date, flowers, is it a red flag?
	No.
	I don't know.
	No, it's cute.
	No.
	It's cute.
	Okay, it's not a red flag, but I don't recommend you do it.
	What?
	Why?
	You're already paying for dinner.
	Might as well.
	Pixie, go to your point.
	I ain't paying for dinner.
	Who is?
	She can pay for herself.
	I mean, if you can't afford flowers, you can pick some flowers, and that's so cute.
	It's acts of service.
	It's a show of gratitude, right?
	I don't know.
	Give me some flowers.
	Wait, when's the last time you took someone on a dinner date?
	Me?
	Brian?
	Brian.
	Dinner date?
	I don't think dinner dates are.
	For a first date, I don't think dinner dates are a good move.
	I think you could meet somewhere for a coffee or a tea or go for a walk even.
	Because for dinner, what was the last time you had a date?
	Oh, it's been a minute.
	I've been way too fucking busy.
	I'm not trying to.
	It's not worth my time right now.
	Especially in this day and age.
	No, it's not about that.
	I'm just way too focused.
	Like, I have a big thing going on here, and I'm not trying to be distracted right now by doing that.
	But some donated $100.
	I do want to say that.
	Why do half your guests not understand the difference between women and women talking about the girl in the light blue?
	Is this an education thing, Carly thing?
	My toddler nephew has better grammar.
	Do you have a response?
	Why are they in?
	Oh, they're talking about my pronunciation of women versus woman, which is something people say a lot in this space.
	They say woman where they should technically say women.
	I've noticed this tree.
	All I'm going to say is that I literally speak two languages, so he can suck a dick.
	Like, he can suck a deep.
	Yes.
	What?
	You speak Spanish or yeah, I speak Spanish when you say that.
	Can we hear a little bit of a shit?
	Tell them to suck a dick in Spanish.
	Chupa una pena.
	Well, you speak two languages.
	Let's hear it.
	Si pora vlar español, pero tengua santo degringa, y esosos por cablo en inglés, pero podemos hablar en español a hora, si quieres.
	That's hot.
	He might slide into the DMs after that.
	Okay.
	Yeah, guys, it's English ESL.
	Are you English as a second language?
	I'm ESL too.
	My first language is French.
	Do you still speak French?
	A little bit.
	Unfortunately, I started speaking English when I was very young, so I started losing it a little bit.
	I understand it fairly well, though.
	Speaking's a little harder.
	Yeah, I technically learned Spanish first, and I learned most of my English through reading.
	So I mispronounce a lot of words along your that you know me because I pronounce them as you would read them in Spanish.
	Yeah, okay.
	All right.
	Well, uh, Sam, yeah, I hear that maybe it could also be like they think they heard someone say woman instead of what like I haven't noticed or heard anything, but yeah, but I noticed it every time.
	Anytime I'm on a red pill podcast, I noticed it.
	Literally, anytime I'm on a red pill podcast, I noticed people say woman where they should be saying women.
	But also, I'm a grammar nerd.
	Oh, women.
	Women.
	Instead of saying women, they say the word woman where they should be saying women.
	Plural versus singular word.
	Exactly.
	But it's okay.
	I mean, it's, I figured it's an American thing because I've only noticed it since I moved here.
	Well, I mean, if they can't recognize Supreme Court justices, they're not going to recognize grammar.
	Yeah, no, our educational system is trash.
	Like, I'm from the Central Valley.
	I'm from Bakersfield after I moved from China.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	And she's from Fresno.
	Yeah.
	Max on Bakersfield.
	Okay, so ladies, it's flowers on the first date of red flag.
	And then we were talking about paying for the first date, etc., etc., etc.
	Y'all were shocked when I said women aren't going to.
	Flowers, men should not pay for the first date.
	Yeah, you have to get ready for like an hour or something just to meet someone that you're unsure about.
	You're like having a lot of risks just to grab a coffee.
	I think that's like.
	Well, you're assuming, like, I'm at least assuming that you're meeting this person beforehand in person, and then you're like, okay, I want to date this person.
	So then you're going out for a date.
	How much risk is there?
	You want to like look nice?
	And I think it depends on what you're doing.
	Well, I mean, a lot of people meet online, social media, dating apps.
	And you didn't put in that much effort to look good pretty much every day when they go out of their house to meet strangers.
	It's, I mean, maybe they go the little extra mile for a date, but the majority of women are already caking their face before they step out of their house on the balance.
	That shit's true.
	And you don't know what kind of shit we do before.
	We got to get ready, too.
	What do you mean by that?
	Tell us how long it takes to get ready.
	I see you have gel in your hair.
	It took him an hour to get ready.
	I put a little maple syrup in my hair.
	I don't use gel.
	Oh, okay.
	I just put a little maple syrup at breakfast.
	I just want to.
	You don't know what men are doing before date.
	Yeah, we do a lot, okay?
	I bet you do.
	You know?
	What's that movie when Harry Met Sally?
	You gotta bust an up before date.
	You know, that's that where the love would hurt her.
	Yep.
	Well, okay, let me also just add to that.
	Gentlemen, you should probably not listen to me on this one.
	You probably should pay for the first date because you're going to lose women if you don't.
	But yeah, if you want to min-max your dating success, your dating results, you should pay for the first date because you're more likely to get laid.
	You're more likely to have the women just keep talking to you, period.
	It feels a little transactional, though, doesn't it?
	That's what I was saying about the world.
	Are you guys saying that women are basically prostitutes?
	Is that what you're saying?
	Oh, he has to pay for my date.
	No, not half of it.
	Otherwise, he ain't getting no pussy.
	What's up?
	I end those words.
	Yeah, I know I'm a feminist.
	They literally say, well, I mean, it's not because of feminism, but I mean, if you don't want to split it, if you want to split it, my pussy's going to dry up.
	And that's your call.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	I think the problem is.
	I don't agree with that.
	I'm just saying that that is what.
	I think what happens is that men are also like competing against other men and also versus women being with herself.
	But basically, if a guy doesn't do that, the problem is like there's going to be like 10 other guys who are willing to do that, right?
	So if a woman is like, yeah, pay for the first date.
	Enjoy your simps.
	But also, it's like if they pay for your first date, I'm more likely to be like, oh, yeah, drinks on me.
	Like, if they don't pay for it, it's like, okay, I owe you nothing.
	Or like, if I insist to split the bill, if a girl like really, really insists and like is like fighting on it, like, it probably means that she never wants to see you again.
	Wait, wait, wait, is splitting the bill like an American thing?
	It is an American thing.
	It's a California and liberal thing.
	Do you know what I mean?
	In China where you're from?
	No, we don't.
	The man paying for it.
	How long have you been in the U.S.?
	Nine years now?
	yeah oh i mean so and you're you have not experienced this on the dates that you've been on I feel like, oh, this is a bit different to backhair.
	Yeah, yeah, I've experienced it, but then I was like, wait, but you're 24.
	You've been here for nine years.
	I came here when I was 15.
	I mean, were you really dating all that much prior to 15 years?
	I think it's more so like family values, like what you see growing up with family and stuff like that.
	Like, I've seen people split bills here, but then, sorry, continue.
	Didn't mean to interrupt.
	Continue.
	But yeah, like, usually if they're like, let's 50-50, I would just pay for it because I don't know why.
	I feel like it's just like maybe it's a culture thing.
	But you said values.
	Did you say family values?
	Yeah, a little bit of that.
	I think growing up, I've seen men provide and pay most of the time.
	And then, so, like, after I came here, I was like, oh.
	So, like, you know what?
	Hold on.
	Let me just try to continue on this chain really quick.
	So your parents are still together or divorced?
	Divorced.
	Okay.
	But growing up, you had strong traditional values, correct?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Well, I mean, you do OnlyFans, correct?
	Like, you do nude content.
	Yes.
	It's not.
	I don't have an issue with it, but it's not really, doesn't strike me as traditional, you know?
	It's not, which is why I've had like issues with family, yes.
	Does your dad and mom, do they know that you do content?
	I haven't talked to my dad in forever.
	I think my mom does.
	Do you think she knows?
	I think so.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	What do you mean?
	You think she knows?
	We haven't been on speaking terms for a long time.
	We recently reconnected and I kind of told her what I was doing, but I don't think she understand the social media stuff quite a bit.
	How would you say it in Mandarin?
	Do you speak Mandarin or Cantonese?
	Mandarin.
	Okay.
	How would you say in Mandarin, dear mom, I post my titties on OnlyFans.
	Wait, what is she watching this?
	Yo, what's up, mom?
	Wait, what's your mom's name?
	Is she single?
	Is she still single?
	Because like I'm.
	She is single, but I thought you were in the middle of the day.
	Can you link me and your mom?
	Is she single?
	Is she in the U.S.?
	She's in the U.S.
	She wants a nice dinner.
	She's a traditional woman.
	Did you know in China for a man to marry a woman, they have to provide a house and own a car, like they have to own a house and a car at minimum, and they have to pay for all the and also they pay for the wedding.
	I learned that in America that the bride's family pays for the wedding, which is like walling.
	You just don't get married.
	Just saying.
	Just throwing it out there.
	Wait, so is your mom saying, can you hook it up?
	Maybe.
	Is she in California?
	She's not.
	I thought high-value man was supposed to look for a young woman.
	You know?
	Is your mom a babe?
	She's cute.
	She got a boyfriend or what's the situation?
	Oh my God.
	Am I really hitting on your mom?
	What do you guys think?
	Do you guys ship me and her mom?
	Yes.
	Is she looking, you think?
	She's cute.
	You don't even know what she's doing.
	No, is she looking for a but maybe you should give for some time because my stepdad passed away like fairly recently.
	Oh, Brian, so I'm just trying to dig into widow's panties like so quickly.
	That's the perfect time.
	No, no, talk about it.
	Emotional support.
	Wedding crashers, the funeral crashes.
	Yeah, it was.
	They be mad horny.
	Right.
	The grief.
	But sorry to hear about your stepfather.
	It's okay.
	Unless he's sucked out.
	Okay, fuck.
	I'm always saying stupid shit.
	Okay, so I don't know how to make it un-awkward after hitting on your mom.
	Yeah, do you have any?
	So wait, where is your mom right now?
	Oh, she's in Florida.
	Oh, she's in Florida.
	Okay, did she move here when you were 15 as well?
	No, I actually came first.
	I moved here by myself, and then she came when I was like, maybe like four years after.
	Where was she at the time?
	First off Hawaii and then to Florida.
	I mean, Hawaii is America still.
	That's America.
	Sorry, where were you born?
	Where are you from originally?
	Born and raised in Beijing.
	Beijing, okay.
	Is your dad still in Beijing?
	It's a rebound, friend.
	I have no clue.
	I don't know.
	She needs a rebound.
	She needs a rebound.
	Tell her I'm available.
	Okay.
	Okay, I will.
	All right.
	Wait, what?
	Okay, we're talking about paying for first dates.
	Yeah.
	Did you guys have any thoughts on that?
	I feel like Lauren has some thoughts on that.
	Honestly, the first date, it's ultimately going to be his idea.
	So I think that he should pay because I didn't ask.
	If I really, the person out should pay.
	Because if I ask someone out, I'm like, let's go to Disneyland.
	Yeah.
	Let's go.
	Same for a first date.
	Yeah, if it's like a first date and you're like, whoa.
	First date to Disneyland?
	Yeah.
	Then I should pay, right?
	Because it's like...
	That's a lot.
	Yeah, no, that's too much.
	So you should pay.
	Sounds like a good thing.
	I feel like you're doing it right asking.
	Like, if some guy asked me to go to Disneyland on the first date, have you ever done that for a first date?
	No, I haven't, but I have had people ask me to do it.
	I feel like over-elaborate first dates are very ill-advised because let's say it's weird.
	Like you want to be in a kind of casual situation where you're just not into them or if it's weird, you can be like, oh, hey, nice to meet you.
	And you can dip.
	But for dinner, that's why I'm kind of hesitant with dinner because it's like, oh, we've got to wait another 20 minutes for the food, but I don't like you.
	You know, it's like Disneyland.
	You can't spend an hour with someone you don't like in the pursuit of eventually finding your wife.
	Well, if you don't have a huge hit.
	But you have to get married, but.
	What if you don't hit it off at first?
	Good call.
	Make that shit free.
	Hell yeah, comrade.
	Do something free.
	Well, okay, so If you're just not attracted to them, but they're otherwise pleasant, I say just continue on with the date, you know, you know, eat the meal, have a nice conversation.
	But if there's like something like you're you feel your safety is kind of, or like they're being weird in some kind of way, then yeah, absolutely.
	Like you can go.
	Like with a weirdo.
	So like we're having dinner, we're on a date, and then you're like, oh, wow, she's really fucking weird.
	Like, yikes, you're going to be like, ah, sorry, can't finish this.
	I'm going to tap out.
	Or like if you're on a nature walk, even.
	I wouldn't do that.
	I'm not going into that.
	But you said that you want a free, you're saying that you want a free date.
	So what's a free date?
	No, ball, grab the car.
	Go to a Starbucks, grab a tea, that shit.
	That's not free.
	What?
	Yeah, no, no.
	Or you could just go walk at the beach.
	Hike, no, because then you're getting into the crevasses of the mountain.
	But like beach, there's people around and shit.
	So beach is okay.
	Definitely agree with doing a free thing.
	But whether you're a man or a woman and you feel uncomfortable on a date, then yeah, you reserve the right at any moment to be to fucking leave.
	You reserve the right.
	Sure, I'm not saying that you shouldn't be able to do that.
	I'm not obliged to stay on a date with somebody.
	Now, again, if they're otherwise pleasant, well, no, if they're otherwise pleasant, but I'm just and this applies to women too.
	If they're otherwise pleasant, but you can tell, eh, I'm not really, maybe we don't on the line, maybe I'm not attracted.
	I'd say, yeah, the polite thing would be just stick it out.
	Have you ever walked out on a date?
	And if so, what's the story?
	What is the story?
	She's 30 minutes late.
	She didn't apologize.
	I stuck it out for 10 minutes.
	I was brewing because if you're late, and she didn't let me know she's going to be late.
	Was this a restaurant?
	Was it a park?
	Was it a beach?
	What was it?
	It was like a lounge.
	We were going to grab a drink.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And so she was 30 minutes late.
	She let me know like 10 minutes after I had already arrived, hey, I'm running late.
	I'll be there in 10.
	She ended up being, so she was 30 minutes late.
	And I would have actually been okay if she gave me a token apology, like, hey, sorry, I was late.
	But she just stepped and didn't say anything.
	So I was like, all right, let's, so yeah, I was just kind of.
	Okay, so you were taking it back.
	And then did you try to like, was that it for you?
	Like, you can't move on?
	Or was there like a further conversation that you're like, oh, this is it for me?
	And then what was the exit like?
	Okay, so I was basically like, okay, because of this, because you were late, because you didn't offer up, I think the polite, courteous thing would be to at least, I wasn't expecting her to be like, get down on one knee and be like, oh my God, Brian, I'm so sorry.
	Please forgive me.
	I just wanted like, hey, sorry, I'm late.
	How's your day?
	That's a courtesy.
	I think that's like if you're that late, you say sorry, right?
	So I was like, okay, let's just see if she's DTF.
	So I was like, you want to come back to my place?
	And then she said no.
	And I was like, oh, okay.
	Well, hey, I got to go.
	Okay, but to be fair.
	Nice to meet you.
	I don't think most women would be DTF within the first like 10 minutes.
	But I was like, so that was it, though.
	Like, because she didn't apologize, like, you were like, you weren't even going to figure out what she was going to say.
	Then you immediately went to the DTF and she was.
	No, I was waiting for the apology.
	So you just were sitting there waiting for the apology and whatever happened after 10 minutes, you were like.
	No, I wasn't, it wasn't like awkward silence, but I was like, okay, I guess we could fuck, you know?
	But you would fuck a person who's that inconsiderate.
	I'm just like shocked at that.
	Like, it's so funny because you already had your mind made up.
	And then she was like sitting there for 10 minutes trying to have a conversation with you.
	And then you were just like probably awkwardly thinking, I wonder if she's on a fuck, but I don't want to like hook up.
	I don't want to date this person anymore than this.
	She lacked the necessary courtesy for me to ever consider her for a long-term relationship.
	That makes sense.
	So I was like, okay, we could maybe be fuck buddies, but I don't know.
	Did she seem upset when you left?
	No, because I thoroughly tanked the interaction when I basically was like, hey, do you want to go hook up?
	And what was her reaction to that?
	Oh, I mean, she was just like, no, I'm okay.
	And I was like, okay, cool.
	Well, I'm going to go.
	Yeah, I think it was thoroughly awkward.
	Most girls would not be down to fuck within 10 minutes of talking to someone.
	I mean, he was already over it, so he just got it.
	He shot his shot.
	He shot his final shot.
	I shot my shot.
	So what happens if she says yes?
	Yeah, what if you're just stuck in a situation with her where she says yes?
	Yeah, so what if she's like, you know what?
	Maybe you can reduce it.
	She caught me.
	I am.
	Why don't you think this girl's crazy?
	It's been 10 minutes and she's ready to fuck.
	Maybe she says sorry while during the BJ.
	I don't know.
	I'm sorry, Brian.
	And she's fucking.
	I'm so sorry in the middle of sex.
	I don't know.
	Tell me you're sorry.
	Tell me you're sorry.
	Tell me I'm sorry.
	Maybe she's interested.
	Yeah, that'd be great.
	She's apologizing during the sex.
	i'm so sorry i donated 100 maddie does it too light blue i also speak spanish Nobody cares about your gringle accent as long as it is understood.
	Woman equals just one female, though.
	Mujair equals Mujeres.
	You know that.
	Wait, what is it?
	I don't speak Spanish.
	He just said that as well.
	The plural versus the singular.
	Oh, okay.
	Wait, Pixie, do you smoke weed?
	No, I don't.
	I always look high, though.
	Yeah, I was about to say, you like have resting high facing high stress.
	Yes, it's happened to me more than once where a random person comes up to me and it's like, oh, like, are you smoking anything?
	Do you have anything?
	And I'm like, no, I don't smoke weed.
	Shame to anyone who smokes weed, honestly.
	Should be jail or something.
	That's right.
	Let us have degenerous.
	Do you guys have a rebuttal to these people?
	I don't know if any of you saw that.
	All I have to say is just like, fuck me.
	She's taking it as a compliment.
	She's like, yes, fuck me.
	Because I smoke.
	Okay.
	Shane.
	We're fucking ironic, dude.
	We came here high as fuck.
	Yeah, you guys smelled like.
	That's awesome that you can like mask it like that.
	Be present.
	Yeah, y'all like seeing.
	You should see her when she's sober.
	I haven't.
	What do you mean?
	Have you been sober?
	On a podcast?
	No, I'm always at least one.
	Within the last couple of years.
	Yeah, the last couple of years, yeah.
	Don't get me.
	You're like a day.
	What do you mean to be somewhere for like three to five hours straight just sitting around the table talking?
	I'm sorry.
	People aren't that interesting, right?
	So it's not for me.
	It's to make y'all more interesting, to be honest.
	I love the fact that you're insane.
	That's why I smoke.
	You guys specifically.
	I'm saying, like, people.
	Bitch, I drink to make you look pretty.
	So how about that?
	I just love the fact that, you know, we came in the car.
	These two bitches would be smoking, be smoking, be high.
	And then I'm the one who's asked if I'm high.
	Pixie's like rolling down the window, like, okay.
	All right.
	Wait, so, Amy, you have a dark past.
	Is that correct?
	I have a dog, Paul.
	You have dark paste.
	There's like some post on your Instagram that's like, yeah, I used to be wild.
	Yeah, no turtle.
	And now I just smoke weed.
	Yeah.
	So are we talking when, like, are we talking with men?
	Are we talking with you?
	I don't know.
	I've always, so for me, I'm a very, I don't have a very high sex drive.
	So for me, the majority of the time, this, when I am in a committed relationship, like, I want to please my partner.
	Like, that's my goal, right?
	But generally speaking, unless I feel that level of like commitment and attachment to somebody, I'm not about that life.
	It's been very, very rare, few, and far between for that to occur.
	But my goal, right?
	Wait, for what to occur?
	Sex?
	Yeah.
	It's been rare and far between.
	Yeah, like for me to meet somebody who I'm not in a relationship with who I actually end up sleeping with.
	I mean, there's just a lot of risks.
	Have you ever had a one-night stand?
	One.
	One.
	My whole life.
	Whole life.
	Yeah.
	What about that other one?
	Wasn't there another one?
	There's multiple ones.
	What do you mean?
	Why are you looking at me though?
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	But I mean, so after my relationship breakup, there was something that I did that I regret very much.
	What did you do?
	I hooked up with somebody after my breakup.
	After my breakup, like within the last several months, I hooked up with somebody.
	Haram!
	I know, it was very haram.
	And like, I literally, I literally like.
	Are you a podcaster?
	I literally, no, I mean, you know what?
	Who gives a fuck?
	But I literally just cried the whole next day.
	There was a lot of regret because that, that's not me, and that's not the standard that I hold myself to.
	And that is not necessarily true.
	You are telling me the best song after you ask.
	Hello, darkness, my old friend.
	Go on, continue.
	I have nothing to say.
	Oh my gosh.
	Okay.
	So the dog past.
	It doesn't, no, it doesn't necessarily come from that, but other things, for sure.
	I was definitely a little bit of a party animal.
	Yes, I like to potty.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	All right, let me get a couple chats in here.
	Oh, actually, no, we got all of them.
	The soundboard is fighting words.
	Should we write into the Constitution?
	Based.
	I don't know where the fuck we were.
	We were talking about paying for the first date.
	Talking about my dog past.
	You're talking about bringing roses to the first date, which I'm all for.
	Yeah, spring flowers on the first date.
	Bring flowers on the first date.
	It's cute.
	No, dot my mother's flowers off her front yard.
	She'd be pissed.
	My mom would doubt this.
	Like, if you plugged flowers from our garden and then handed it to me, I'd get shot.
	Yeah, you'd get smacked.
	Amy, ask a question.
	I got it.
	I'll give her a bad one.
	You want me to ask a question right now?
	Damn, okay.
	Oh, shit.
	I mean, that was pretty rough.
	Did you guys not feel like that was a little bit rough?
	God damn.
	Who here considers themselves to have somewhat of a past?
	Yay on a.
	Like a dog.
	Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm saying.
	Yeah, it's like, what is the context of that?
	When somebody says that to you, I'm like, what do you mean?
	Yeah, it's also a very ominous question because I'm sure if somebody said that to me, I'd be going through like my entire life every day.
	Like, what horrible thing?
	Like, what do you mean, past?
	Are you talking about current?
	Like, no, but.
	Yeah, my past is pretty checkered.
	Yeah.
	Not with regards to like dating, but I mean, obviously, your past influences the way that you approach dating.
	Anyone here have a felony?
	No, but I haven't missed it either.
	Yeah, I've been arrested a couple of years.
	What you've been arrested for.
	I don't think I should say right this, but I have.
	Anything to do with boy drama?
	Kind of, yeah.
	I was 19.
	It happened a couple times.
	I was young.
	A couple of times.
	That's kind of like the worst time.
	If you're going to be rowdy, do it when you're charged as a juvenile.
	Like 19.
	Yeah, not like, you know, 30 plus.
	I think that's crazy, but I mean, things happen.
	Yeah, no, she has had like a really interesting past that has led her like to like OnlyFans today, but OnlyFans is so much better than your pause?
	Yeah, do you have it?
	Would you say that your pause contributed to your decision to be able to do OrlyFans?
	Yeah, it drove me to it.
	In what way?
	I was just doing different types of sex work, and it was just doing different types of sex work, like everything you were doing.
	Everything you could possibly think of, and it was the bunny rams groomed.
	Oh, but wait, how did you get your start?
	And when did you start Hilda Yale?
	I was 19.
	You were 19.
	What was your life leading up to that?
	So like, what was your high school experience like?
	High school, honestly, like my freshman year, I don't know, I hated school so much.
	So it was really like family life, like childhood growing up.
	Everything was kind of just like fucked.
	Are you close with your dad or your mom?
	I talk to them, but they're just like people.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Damn, that shit sad.
	That sucks.
	I mean, how's everyone else's relationship with?
	I mean, it's crazy that anybody can have a child.
	I think it's wild that any like drug addict, any person who hates children can just have a child.
	Is that something that commonly happens?
	Like, children haters are just like, let me just pump out.
	Well, I think what happens is like literally we have bad sex ed, we have like a lack of contraception.
	We have like literally people trying to ban contraception.
	We have like people who don't allow for abortions.
	So what happens?
	People get born into like shitty family situations and it's horrible.
	Are we going to have an abortion debate right now?
	I mean, we can.
	I mean, that's interesting, right?
	We can.
	Are you guys pro-life?
	Yeah.
	Pro-choice.
	Okay, if you can.
	Pro-choice.
	But I just, I honestly strongly believe that most Republicans came to claim to be like pro-life and everything, but then they're against contraception.
	So I don't think they're actually pro-life or anti-abortion.
	It's not clear to me that conservatives or Republicans are necessarily anti-contra.
	What kind of contraception?
	Oh, like all types of contraception, IUD, emergency birth control, just long acting.
	Family.
	Yeah, Plan B. You literally have, let's see, Ohio, Bill 704, Virginia, HB 1395, I believe.
	Louisiana as well, all in 2022 tried to pass laws banning long-term contraception.
	So like IUDs, like insane shit like that.
	Is that non-hormonal?
	Non-hormonal IUDs?
	Well, no, there's the copper IUD, which is not.
	Because what I have heard from Republicans and conservatives, they make the argument that the hormonal birth controls have a negative impact on like fertility and on your health, and it's not good for you to be on it.
	But I mean, but I don't know if they full outright object to contraception such as like condoms or non-hormonal contraceptions.
	I mean, yeah, in the past, there have been, I think it's been consistently conservatives who have been against legislation allowing for condoms.
	So, like, for instance, there was a Supreme Court case where people were handing out condoms and contraceptions were only...
	How long ago, though?
	Because I've heard about this a long, but like in recent history, I don't think conservatives or Republicans are that against contraceptive use.
	And that's not against.
	Well, in 2022, you had Louisiana, Ohio, Virginia, Texas all tried to ban long-term long-axis contraception.
	In 2021 and 2022, the federal government tried to pass a bill guaranteeing contraception as a federal right to people.
	Every single Republican in the House voted against it as well as in the Senate.
	So this is something that, you know what, the majority of conservatives in general throughout the population, over 90% of the population agrees this should be a right that people should have.
	No, no, no.
	When you say right, hold on, just to be clear, just to clarify, the second thing you mentioned there was they just it sounded like they didn't want to have it be taxpayer free.
	No, no, no.
	I mean as a literal right.
	I mean as a state should not be able to say, hey, it's illegal to sell condoms.
	It's illegal to provide IUDs.
	Wait, I just want to make sure you're not strawmanning the opposition here.
	I am not.
	There are states that are trying to ban condoms.
	I just want to, I haven't heard of that, but is that actually, have you guys heard about this?
	I think there is something to be said.
	Strawman.
	Okay, right now they can't ban condoms.
	Right now it's not really an issue.
	Hold on, no, no, Brian.
	Right now it's actually not an issue because of the Supreme Court case, which made it so that right now it's like a constitutional right to like have these because of a Supreme Court case, but it's not codified.
	So right now, a state wouldn't be capable of banning abortion.
	Am I right?
	I'm curious about that.
	Well, no, there are states that have banned abortion.
	Well, I want to ask like for you pro-lifers, like, do you truly think that someone will be a good parent if they did not want a child but are forced to?
	I don't think you're not forced to have a child.
	You're forced.
	Like, first of all, if you want to, if you're going to subject yourself to getting pregnant, if you're going to open your leg, which is a good thing.
	But there are people who just open their legs, but they absolutely would not be good parents.
	But that should be a constant.
	Adoption is like a whole other life form should be a consequence of what they're doing.
	I don't think you should be allowed to murder somebody just because you think that you might be a bad parent.
	There's no other way to do that.
	But do you think that their life of suffering is better than like a life of suffering?
	But not very true.
	I can't always get adopted.
	And even if they're not adopted.
	Okay, even if they're not, even if they're an orphan, that doesn't mean that they're a life of suffering.
	And even if it is a life of suffering, life itself is better than beautifully, or than being brutally murdered.
	And haven't you guys heard of those people who will like who literally talk about that?
	They're like, my parents wanted to abort me because this is the situation.
	When I was in the middle of the time, I found out I was in this situation.
	And honestly, I was one of those kids.
	My mom wanted to abort me due to what my grandparents said because they are very traditional Hungarian.
	They do not believe in having children.
	I am Hungarian.
	They do not believe in having children out of wedlock.
	And so my mom got married when she was like six to nine months pregnant with me.
	But you hear these stories time and time again.
	I'm closer towards you.
	Oh, to me.
	Oh, I'm so sorry.
	It went like this.
	Okay.
	Well, there's also different opposite arguments where one of my best friends growing up, like I met her in middle school and we're still best friends right now, where I asked her about the abortion argument.
	She said that her parents only ever wanted to have one child and that she, her mom was pregnant out of wedlock before.
	And if it weren't for that, she wouldn't have existed.
	So there are also a lot of people who wouldn't have extra children if it weren't for them becoming financially stable or into wedlock.
	Like if you're in wedlock and more financially stable, you would have like three or four kids or something.
	Versus if you're a single mom, sometimes you can't afford to have more like healthy, happy, like financially stable children.
	So there's like the opposite, there's arguments on both sides where I truly do think that if someone cannot afford to have a child and has a really bad relationship and turbulent relationship with everyone around them and are like drug addicted, I don't think having a child is good.
	I don't think that should negate somebody's, like that doesn't negate the fact that it is a life-ended.
	And this is the, I find the disparity in this argument is where does life begin then, right?
	You know what I mean?
	And some people believe it's from conception.
	As soon as it happens, from that very moment, some people believe it's at like what 28 weeks.
	Other people believe it's much further along.
	So I think that's the semantics that we come down to.
	We all agree that it's wrong to terminate a life, to kill somebody.
	We all agree that's wrong.
	I think the point of disparity is where does that actually begin?
	Where does that life begin?
	When they can not live out of the womb.
	That's like, from my personal perspective, and also I think culturally for me and Kathy, like we're Chinese.
	And I think for Chinese people or like just like spiritual, whatever, like historical, like religious stuff, like your soul, you breathe in your soul, your first breath, when you are out the womb, or whenever you breathe in your first breath, that's when the soul comes in.
	Or at least that's what I would say.
	So you guys caught in like your religion or China?
	I mean, there's not really religion, that much religion in China besides Buddhism, which is even.
	I'm sorry, my aunt's Chinese.
	She also said that, like, when you're born, you're born at one years old because they consider your life to have started at literally the moment of conception.
	And so, therefore, when you're born, isn't that true?
	Like, you're not born at zero years old.
	You're born at one years old.
	I've heard that.
	I've heard that for Korea.
	Me?
	Is that in China or is that in the world?
	That is in China.
	Because I've heard that exactly.
	I've heard that in some Asian cultures, not for me in Shanghai, but maybe in China, but you're saying it's in Korea.
	Oh, you know, Shanghai is in China.
	Yeah, Shanghai is in China.
	But you're saying it didn't happen for you.
	Not for me.
	I don't count myself a year older, but I do know some people.
	So are you saying that people in general in China, on the balance of probability, meaning at least 51% of the time, are people inclined to believe that or not believe that?
	Or are you talking from your own?
	Not from my generation, no, but I cannot speak for the general.
	I mean, well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Like on your legal paperwork, when you're born in China, they start counting you one years old at the moment of birth control.
	But do they do that, Kathy?
	Do they count you as one year old?
	What are the paper?
	We're going to move away from abortion here.
	Oh, wait, okay.
	Can I say one more thing?
	Just on the access of contraception thing.
	Last thing, go ahead.
	Okay.
	Because you're saying, like, oh, are they banning condoms?
	But specifically, they're trying to ban IUDs.
	And you can say, oh, no, it's a health thing.
	Maybe it's a health thing, et cetera, et cetera.
	There has been no study that has shown long impacts on fertility if you're doing it properly.
	Now, if you're misusing your birth control, if you're doing only emergency contraception, if you're leaving your IUD too long, then that's something else.
	But again, you shouldn't ban IUDs as a whole because of that.
	That's like saying, like, oh, we should ban like, let's say, soda or something unhealthy if you misuse it, you know?
	But that's my so, wait, have any of these bans actually been passed on birth control?
	No, but what has been told over and over again, well, funding has been cut for birth control, for access for birth control, especially in like low-income communities.
	So that's really bad.
	Second of all, you had these groups that continuously say, we're not going to stop passing these bills until they pass.
	And then on the other hand, you have Republicans who are like, hey, you know, instead of codifying this law, we're going to veto it.
	We're not going to pass it.
	So it's, to me, in my opinion, imperative that we try to pass this instead of being like, no, we're going to leave it in a limbo.
	No, I think the reasoning is because the birth rates of the U.S. is going down.
	The birth rate, we're still increasing in population no matter what.
	So it affects our 401k, our retirement, or author A's.
	And overall, like all of those things only exist and we're not going to be able to do that.
	But you're like hiding behind the mic.
	We can't.
	No, we're not.
	The only thing does it isn't not directly right here?
	Okay.
	So basically, I think that people are panicking and trying to ban abortions and also some certain types of contraception because the birth rate is going down as that's like the trend for any very developed country.
	And but a lot of our economy is based off of the population and like having workers on the bottom to sustain everything.
	And even like when it comes to any sort of retirement plan, 401k, Rothari, it's kind of a Ponzi scheme where they depend on more people to go into the workforce.
	And people are also dying later.
	And so your retirement funds.
	Wait, what are we talking about here?
	We're talking about the reason there are a lot of anti-abortion laws being passed recently.
	You think it's a populist control levelation?
	Populist control levelation because it's the reason behind the legislation.
	I think it's partially the reason because you see America talk about like Europeans, like how the population is declining.
	And then it's like, oh, like they're not going to be an economic power.
	Well, just ask them.
	Okay, we're moving on.
	Okay.
	Pixie got her word about birth control.
	Okay.
	So Jesus Christ.
	Let me try to bring it back to something more.
	Sorry, tangent.
	Okay, before y'all, like, I don't know, some of y'all grimaced when we were talking.
	Okay.
	Is it a deal breaker if a guy doesn't want to go down on you?
	We'll go around the table.
	Go ahead.
	No, I don't care.
	If he expects me to go down on him, then yes, it's a deal breaker.
	So, okay, if a guy didn't want to go down on you, let's say he didn't have an expectation that you go down on him, but no, no, no, but would you still go down on him?
	He doesn't have the expectation, but would you still go down on him?
	Probably not if he doesn't want to go down on me.
	It has to be even.
	Has to be even, though?
	Has to be even.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I used to not think it was a deal breaker until I dated someone who only wanted head all the time.
	Then I was like, wait a second.
	Like, you're not doing anything for me.
	She knows who it is.
	It's like, what?
	What the hell?
	I just found out.
	Yeah, no, no, but he would not give any head whatsoever.
	So that's a deal breaker.
	Like, I didn't used to like care about head like much.
	I was like, whatever.
	But since I dated someone who's like, I only care about heading, you should do it all the time.
	Then I'm like, okay, it needs to be more even.
	So now I really appreciate men who do go down on women.
	Wait, so hold on, question.
	This guy, he wouldn't do anything to make you come or please you?
	Yeah, pretty much.
	Like for no.
	You just gave him head?
	Yeah, no, he was kind of a narcissist for sure.
	And I don't even use that word lightly.
	I feel like that word is kind of used everywhere.
	He just lacked the empathy.
	I think he just legitimately did not understand that pleasing people is a good thing.
	Okay.
	But were you guys, you were just giving him head, like no sex?
	No, there's still sex going on.
	Oh.
	But it was like the main thing was just.
	Did he make you come?
	I mean, like, occasionally, like, not like it was just very him-oriented.
	Okay.
	So.
	See, because I don't like to give head, but I like to make my girl come.
	Okay, that's fine.
	That's fine.
	Preferably before me.
	What if she were to say that she could only come?
	Sucks for you.
	Apparently, it doesn't suck for him.
	No, just, I mean, there's no way that.
	No, you can make it.
	But if someone doesn't have empathy.
	Wait, are you saying this doesn't exist?
	The only way a girl can come is through head.
	There's definitely men out there who the only way they can come is through head.
	So.
	Okay, no, no, no.
	It's not cap.
	It's not cap, but there's probably guys who say that, but it's cap.
	They just want.
	I've seen it from someone who can only finish, but actually...
	No, it exists, but like...
	That's great.
	But there's probably some guys who say they can only come from head, but they might be lying about that shit.
	No, I've experienced it.
	Wait, question, but were you fucking raw?
	Okay, well, no.
	These are so first ball.
	I'm just saying, because like with a condom, yeah, it's kind of, it can be tough to come with a condom.
	Okay, yeah.
	All right, I'll bite.
	So under those circumstances, yeah, maybe it can only come from head.
	Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
	Okay, I don't know.
	But I will say that when, you know, this is a long time ago, but he would come really quick by being jacked off.
	And that was like a red flag to me.
	From just a hand job?
	I was like, yeah.
	Just a hand job?
	Yeah.
	I'd rather masturbate with sandpaper than get a hand job.
	It worked for him.
	I'd rather not do anything than get a hand job from a woman.
	Like, we've had a lot of people.
	Or men, for that matter.
	I bet men can make it in some type of way.
	No, just like, wait, chat.
	Nick, can you scroll down the chat?
	Yo, chat, would you rather, like, if the option with a girl, let's say you're hanging out with a girl and she's like, I'll give you a hand job.
	Wouldn't you rather just not get the hand job?
	Do you know what I mean?
	Do you know what I mean?
	You'd rather just not get the hand job.
	This was a hand job.
	Wait, chat.
	Do you agree?
	Chat, do you agree?
	I don't think chat.
	It depends on the circumstances.
	No.
	I can't give the hand job to myself.
	I'm going to take a 50-50 if you're going to save it.
	I'll take it.
	No, chat.
	Yes, I love it.
	Will you take it handy or will you double it and give it to the next person?
	Yo, chat, chat, chat, chat.
	Hold on, chat.
	Okay, so if the, holy shit, what?
	This is a very contentious thing.
	Is it?
	Wait, chat.
	Is it look really blue?
	We did some adjustments with the lights, and I think, chat, one in the chat if it looks blue.
	Okay, when it comes to the hand job thing, here's the option: your chick will give you a hand job.
	No lube.
	Or no lube.
	Can she spit?
	Yeah.
	Why not just give you a blowjob that's a little bit more detailed?
	Why would it be dry, though?
	Because you can STDs in the throat.
	You can get STDs in the throat.
	But you can't from a handy.
	But you're just going to be spitting.
	No, no, no.
	Just click it, lick it, but like not.
	What if there's no lube prepared?
	So it's like, it's just going to be a tiny bit.
	You're not going to do dry.
	I'm sorry.
	You don't have any lotion in your house.
	Any unscented lotion.
	No, no, no, no.
	You can't just use like Neutrogena on your fucking dick.
	You need sexuality.
	I'm sure everyone in chat.
	No, no, no.
	You'll get the New Tiena.
	Why are you tracking off Martin Screlly with some fucking Neutrogena?
	I never did.
	I never did.
	I never lied.
	Exfolio.
	Why are you saying toad right now?
	Just not the tip.
	Just not the tip, right?
	Like, you can do the shot.
	Back and body works, okay?
	No, no, no.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, the ball.
	No, but, but, like, you, okay, obviously, if they're, if it's a dry handy, which, uh, why the fuck would you even do that?
	Okay, dry handy you yourself or dry handy by a girl.
	Dry.
	Both.
	Tell you what.
	I will accept a dry handy from a cello player.
	Like a virtuoso.
	Cello or violin.
	Otherwise, these normal women out here who don't have fucking symphony experience don't have the necessary, the requisite technique.
	Hand job.
	Dev, you got like strings on your dick.
	Like you gotta have someone that like a musical instrument.
	Yo, put, Nick, pull up a video of Yo-Yo Ma.
	I want box.
	Oh, right.
	Actually, it's probably copyright.
	Box cello suite number one.
	Bro, pull up a chick, doing that shit.
	They got the fucking, they know how to do that shit.
	Okay, okay, okay.
	So, even chello.
	I had some caffeine.
	I had some caffeine.
	No, okay.
	Just the chef, though.
	Because obviously, if it's dry, you can't, these girls be trying to like go over the head and shit when it's dry.
	You can't do that.
	It hurts.
	Strangling it, yeah.
	Do you not have like do you not have any like natural fluids?
	Like, this is like a normal thing.
	They do, but like barely like a massage.
	Oh, don't pull it.
	Don't pull up the video.
	Yeah.
	Wait, what?
	Oh, only Mark has what we're going to do.
	Nick, I need you YouTube video, box cello suite number one by a woman, but we can't play the audio.
	Brian likes cow stands, so we should have a lot of people.
	Have better fantasy.
	He just wants it on site.
	Never fuck up.
	Let's just watch.
	I think it still probably might get us copyright, so I just let's not do it because even the video.
	Even the video.
	Yeah.
	Isn't this like fair use?
	We're like educationally analyzing our hand movements.
	Yeah.
	It's a little on the fence, and I'd rather not risk it, unfortunately.
	It's ahead of its time.
	Yeah, so deal breaker for you if the guy doesn't want to go down on you.
	If he just first, like off the bat, says like, oh, I don't do that.
	I feel like it's really childish.
	And like.
	Oh, it's not childish.
	Yeah, I think it is.
	Like, what's the reason not?
	What's the reason for not?
	Like, you're not with me for no reason.
	Like, you know.
	I just don't like looking at it.
	Whoa.
	Like, I just don't like it.
	I don't agree with that.
	I like to look.
	I'm a fan of looking.
	I will look.
	Was he gay?
	I don't know.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	I just processed that.
	Yo, big labia matter in the chat.
	Big labia matter in the chat.
	What?
	Wait, what?
	Huh?
	He's saying big labia matter.
	He likes it to look like a box of cow tongues.
	Like, he wants it to just cowboys.
	I will not.
	Hold on.
	Lauren, I am offended on behalf of women with large labias.
	I will not stand for you.
	Are you saying cow dogs are ugly?
	I will not stand for you shaming the natural way in which some women, some women's pussies are.
	I will not stand for it.
	I demand an apology to all the women out there.
	All pussies are beautiful.
	Yes, yes.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I'm sorry to Brian's mom.
	BLM.
	Big labia matter.
	Yeah, big labia.
	Big labia matter.
	Just kidding.
	BLM, for short.
	Okay.
	That's not.
	Wait, what?
	You apologize to my what?
	My torment.
	All the lovely ladies out there.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's just that extra fat labia.
	You're a mom.
	I'm a bum.
	Yes, that's what I said.
	Your mom, she pulled me out.
	A big apologies to your mother.
	Speaking of mothers, is your mom single?
	Because.
	Oh, he's into milk.
	He has some milk on the mouth.
	She's married to my dad, and they get along swiftly.
	Beautiful.
	I would love to just skip in there.
	We love chilling.
	Brian, can you tell us?
	You've never told us why you like the lodge labia.
	Like, what, like, speak it out loud.
	Say it.
	Okay.
	Why do you like it?
	Do you want me to actually articulate this shit?
	Articulate it in words.
	Go.
	First off, if they have an Audi, right?
	Oh my God.
	It like grips.
	Lips.
	Lips.
	Slips that grip.
	It grips the dick.
	The grip gets dicked.
	Wait, what?
	The dick gets gripped.
	The grip gets dicked.
	This next one is hard.
	It's really fun.
	We need more men like you, though, because all these women are getting surgeries.
	They have a foreign star standard lips.
	There's a lot of men that like giant labia.
	Hook it up.
	But no, it's like 10,000 a year women in the United States get labia placed, where they get their basically get their genitals mutilated.
	And it's very unfortunate, ladies, if there's any ladies watching who feel self-conscious about their large labia, I will talk you out of getting a labia placey.
	My DMs are open.
	I wonder if there's any trans people who are like, give me a big one.
	Oh, big labia.
	That would be hard.
	That would be hard to do, though.
	That would be hard to do, right?
	I would know.
	You laugh and then you're like, wait a second.
	Okay.
	Thought about it.
	You have to make it however you want, right?
	Wait, you wanted me to articulate why?
	I'm a big.
	I understand.
	We got it.
	There's more.
	I want to hear it all.
	He wants to go into detail now that you asked.
	It feels better.
	That was so descriptive.
	Thank you so much.
	I don't know how to do that.
	I got that from the first thing you said.
	I don't know how to articulate it, but it just kind of feels better.
	You know what I mean?
	No, I'm saying.
	Is she an Audi or an any kiki?
	Don't touch her hair now.
	She does not consent to your at least got the stuff of her face.
	I got most of it off.
	Her lace is showing.
	Gross.
	Scratch it.
	That's not good.
	I'm confused.
	Is this like a mannequin or like a sex dog?
	What is it?
	It's a woman of the night.
	What happened to Woman of the Night?
	Wait, because she's dark?
	What?
	No, a woman of the night is a.
	I'm kidding.
	It's not actually an exact.
	Well, a woman of the night would be like a courtesan.
	Do you have like a little red light for her to flash in the window?
	No.
	And scare everyone?
	No.
	Like demon.
	No, that's like to signify that you're working.
	I wouldn't get with her because it's just like, you know, what's the point?
	It's unprofessional, you know?
	She's your coworker.
	You have a problem with cullen-haired women?
	Huh?
	Is that it?
	Because her hair is blurry.
	No, Elijah.
	He loves colored hair women.
	No, we actually talked about this last show.
	From a purely aesthetic point of view, I actually like women who have either like, say, red hair, like dyed white hair.
	Oh, you like the eccentric?
	The eccentric type of women.
	I like blue.
	Not green, not green.
	You like the female destiny.
	You like the female destiny.
	He likes the destiny in general.
	Let me finish my point.
	He just likes destiny in general.
	Blue, pink, red, and like what?
	Like he looked that glassy.
	I was like, ooh.
	Maybe like a little more white.
	What about my mom?
	Platinum blonde.
	Yeah.
	Platinum blonde.
	I get you.
	You're already cheating on her mom with her.
	What's that movie producer?
	A Woody Allen.
	Yeah, your Woody Allen 2.0.
	Oh, maybe you shouldn't share that.
	Yeah, I don't know about that.
	Maybe after.
	Maybe after.
	But here's the thing.
	When it comes to the hair, aesthetically, I like it.
	However, it is associated now.
	There's a pretty strong correlation with if you have color in your hair, you're like a woke, super, super liberal, social justice warrior person.
	Whereas in the past, like you probably, it just meant you were like if you had alternative 10 years ago, it meant that you it might not have anything to do with your politics.
	You could be apolitical, just have color in your hair, and you were like into rock, alt-rock, or had daddy issues.
	Yeah, when I went here in college, I had blue hair just all the time, and then I dyed it back.
	So professional.
	Yeah.
	I have beef with liberals over that.
	Like, you guys ruin cool-colored hair.
	They took it.
	Like, no, they ruined it.
	They hate it.
	They fucking ruined it.
	They actually know, because like now, as a conservative, when you have colored hair, it really makes you stand out.
	Like I had purple hair in law school and then I'd be like super hard, like pro.
	They thought I was trolling as a conservative because I'd like come into con law class being like, fuck Roe v. Wade, that's bad law.
	Wait for it to get overturned, bitches.
	And then when it like got overturned.
	I had purple hair.
	Yeah.
	Super fine.
	Okay, Piximus Maximus.
	I have a question for you.
	Wait, oh, actually, before that.
	Deal breaker for the guy won't go down on you?
	Not a deal breaker.
	I'm disappointed.
	You're not mad, you're just disappointed.
	I feel like he doesn't care about me enough.
	Amy, what about you?
	It's not a deal breaker for me.
	I think where it would be a deal breaker, I think for a lot of women, they don't give head because they fucking love it, because they selviate at the concept of being able to suck a fat one, right?
	It's because they want to pleasure their partner.
	They want to pleasure their partner.
	They want to see their partner gratified.
	And so if a man, if you're not doing it for the love of being a throat goblin, right?
	And you just want to pleasure your partner and that is not replicated.
	It's muted, Nick, it's muted.
	There isn't a symbiotic relationship in that sense, and yes, I would have a problem with that, right?
	If it wasn't on that type of a level, then it would be fine.
	Have I seen time?
	No, no, no.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, if she's a throat goblin prior, then yes.
	I disagree.
	However, if she's just doing it purely because she wants to pleasure her man and make him happy and he is not willing to reciprocate that, then I wouldn't be able to do that.
	I think that was fair.
	Wait, what?
	Yes.
	I think that was fair.
	Oh, no, I just checked out that throat goblin.
	Hispanicizing.
	Like, have you ever had a girl say that she wouldn't date you because you wouldn't go down on her?
	I don't think I've encountered it.
	It's possible, though.
	It's possible.
	So you don't?
	Yeah, are you worried that any of your exes are like, and not only that, not only would he wear the same stupid flannel to all of our nice dates, but he also would not go down on me.
	And they'd be like, oh, and like, and he would ask for it all the time.
	Like, do you worry that that's what your exes are saying behind your back?
	Telling.
	Well, I think on a serious note, I think it would be, I mean, besides the fact that I've already disclosed this publicly, I do think it would be in bad taste to like disclose, well, women do that too anyways.
	To disclose like private sexual details about the partner.
	I believe that there ought to be certain things that you have discretion about when it comes to current partners and past partners.
	But would it bother me if she was like, yeah, he doesn't eat pussy?
	No.
	Do you think that's like one of their major complaints though?
	No.
	I'd say most of the women that I end up, there's definitely women out there that, I mean, I don't know if there's any girls here at the table, but some women actually don't like it.
	Wait, how much?
	How much do you care?
	It's not my favorite thing, but consider it.
	She is a keeper, okay?
	Other stuff, though.
	How much do you care?
	Whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait.
	Hold on.
	Let's dive deep into this here.
	What are we talking about here?
	What kind of, you want to peg the dude?
	What?
	No.
	I'm not down for that.
	Like, don't try to.
	You don't have to go down on me, but you have to choke me.
	What?
	She's got her kinks.
	Like, when we're talking choke, are we talking just a hand on the throat?
	Or are we talking, you want to be suffocated?
	You want to see God.
	I think all the way.
	Yeah.
	It's a reality.
	I can't violate.
	So now she's our violin record.
	She gives the throat.
	Hey, she doesn't want to be choked, but she doesn't care about 10.
	That's like, you know, you need to come or come from.
	You can come from us.
	I have a question for you.
	First on whatever podcast, then on First 48.
	I have a question for you on the whole choking thing.
	Was it something that you either saw in porn or was it something that one partner, you didn't know you liked it, but a partner did it, and then you're like, ooh, I kind of like that.
	How did you discover that you like to be choked?
	I think there's many ways through, whether it's movies or animes.
	What was it for you?
	What was it for you?
	I think they do that shit in anime.
	Like, I've had a lot of fun.
	Were you watching hente?
	Hentai?
	Choked by an octopus.
	Since I was like tall.
	Thursday shows 12, maybe?
	13.
	Wait, what's the volume at, Nick?
	It sounds kind of low.
	I don't know.
	Oh, nuts.
	Okay.
	That's a yikes.
	So choking, how did you, was it a dude that introduced you or you read 50 Shades of Gray or what was it?
	There's books, there's movies, there's actually definitely previous partners too.
	Have you ever passed out?
	I would like to, but no.
	I have.
	It scared me.
	My recommendation to men is if she just wants like a hand on the neck and you do a little squeeze and it's a pretty token choke, do it.
	If she wants to be choked the fuck out, make sure you sign up for yourself.
	Have your lawyer ready to go.
	Is it just choking or is it space?
	Everything.
	Yeah.
	Do you ever like to dom or you just?
	Kind of a switch.
	I can do both.
	Yeah.
	So like in your house, do you own like handcuffs, whips, all of that sort of stuff?
	You got a dungeon?
	Yes.
	I do.
	You have a dungeon?
	Not like a dungeon, but you know, like a little drawer.
	Jesus.
	Do you have one of those sex swings?
	It's not.
	Unfortunately, my place is not big enough, but maybe eventually.
	One day.
	One day.
	What about being tied up?
	Do you like to be tied up?
	Yes.
	And I can tie two.
	What is it?
	What's the Japanese rope tie?
	Shibari?
	Shibari, yeah.
	Shibari?
	Okay.
	All right, don't ask me why I know that.
	All right.
	What are we talking about?
	We're talking about not deal breakers.
	The dude doesn't want to.
	to ask you like how important is it to you to make your partner reach the L um how important is sorry repeat that how How important is it for you to make your part, to get your partner to reach the O?
	Oh, to climax.
	Oh, I mean, how important is it?
	Yeah, like if you, let's say you, like, you come, you're happy, you're like, okay, gotta go.
	Are you, or are you like, okay, I'm gonna make sure she.
	Sure.
	So my goal is to always have my partner, my girl, come before me.
	Okay.
	In every instance.
	So.
	It's a little bit more forgivable than for not going to be aware.
	No, like I don't like to give head, but like I enjoy to make my partner come.
	I like to make my partner come.
	It turns me on if she comes.
	Even better if it's mid-sex.
	And you can achieve that with hands, with toys.
	With wits, with choking.
	Not with your thing.
	Not with what?
	Not with your childhood.
	Hands and toys, but not with the one thing that usually you would hope it would be.
	I mean, okay, you're talking about G-spot orgasm.
	I mean, for some women, that's more difficult.
	Yeah.
	most women are only and you gotta be like really like if you're gonna make her fucking g-spot orgasm with your dick but like uh and here's the thing though is women's orgasm response is so much more varied than it is in men So you'll have women, I've dated women who are like multi-orgasmic, who can come in like 10 seconds without toys, without hands, just peeing the V, like insane.
	And they'll come like 10 times in a row.
	And then you'll have other women, you can use the most intensive vibrator on their clit while having sex, while fucking spank, like psychologically stimulating her, and they still can't come.
	So the orgasm response in women is super varied.
	And some women like need very gentle pressure if it's on the clit.
	Some women need like a bit more firm pressure.
	So there's such a variety.
	There's a much more variety.
	What's that?
	Sounds like you've had experience.
	Yeah, bro.
	I've been fucking since I've for a minute since the fucking Bush administration, son.
	And I haven't been, I have gone down on a girl like maybe it has occurred, but like it's been since the Bush administration.
	Do you think men's body count matters as much as women's body count?
	Do I think it matters?
	I think women care less.
	I don't know if I'm answering your question by saying that, but I think women care less about body count than do men care about body count.
	I think it depends on the type of woman.
	I think a lot of conservative traditional women.
	Yeah, generally, I would agree.
	Also, I think the head subject is a skill issue.
	Just kidding.
	Wait, the head subject is a skill issue?
	Yeah, you said they only did it like a handful of times.
	You only did a handful of times every.
	Is it because you didn't get the reward and like the...
	No, no, no, no, no, the reward was achieved.
	I just didn't really enjoy it.
	It wasn't my thing.
	I found out very early on.
	I must have done it three times.
	And I was like, yeah, I don't really like it.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I feel like a lot of women do it for that reason, right?
	They do it because they want to pleasure their man.
	They want to see him get off.
	And that is their main objective in doing it.
	It's not necessarily because they are.
	Throat goblins.
	Throat goblins.
	Exactly.
	Thank you, Lauren.
	Thank you.
	Exactly.
	And so what do you have to say to that, though?
	Like, is it a little bit different when your woman is only giving you head because she wants to pleasure you?
	And then you come to the table saying this is not something I'm willing to do?
	Are you able to see that in a different light versus a girl who's just like no, go ahead, go ahead.
	So there is a girl, right?
	In your example that you give, who's like, oh, she, because I don't want to give it, now she doesn't want to give it, right?
	Which I agree.
	That is tit for tat.
	That's not very good in relationships in general.
	Agreed.
	But what if it is a woman who is only giving you head because she does it for your pleasure?
	And she's like, I don't enjoy this, but I love to see my man get off.
	And I know that this makes him really happy.
	Therefore.
	Well, she enjoys it because of that.
	Okay, so you don't enjoy seeing your girl happy to the point that you become.
	So like women enjoy what Amy is trying to say, and tell me if I'm wrong, is women will enjoy the act of giving head because they enjoy seeing their partners happy, not necessarily the act of doing it.
	But you disen like you hate the act so much that even if your partner's enjoying it, it doesn't bring you joy at all.
	Your pain of doing it and your neck problems supersede the joy that you get from seeing a woman get off, right?
	And so what I'm saying is maybe a woman has neck problems, back problems, whatever.
	She doesn't like it, but she does it.
	Mama does.
	And my crazy.
	Exactly.
	Sir, would you see that there's a different instances versus a girl who's just like, it's tit for tat.
	I'm not going to do this just because you won't do that.
	You know what I mean?
	The question is, would I be upset if she was tit for tat with it?
	No, a girl who isn't tit for tat, who genuinely, the only reason she was doing it is because it brings you pleasure.
	That's the only reason.
	Sweet.
	So why?
	So, why don't you do that?
	I think that and she says, okay, well, if it's non-reciprocal in that sense, then it's tit for tat.
	Then she would be tit for tat?
	No, no, it's not tit for tattoo.
	What's the question?
	What's the question?
	Are you guys really that confused?
	Am I going to be like, we're talking about it?
	Yes, you are being argued.
	Why can't you enjoy it the same way as she would enjoy it?
	She enjoys it because it makes you happy.
	Why can't you enjoy it to make her happy?
	I don't really totally follow the question.
	That was pretty literal.
	I think that was a question.
	I don't know.
	I think it is Christ Jerusalem.
	Chat, am I being retarded?
	Okay, so there's women who say, okay, it is tit, it's tit for tat.
	Sir, if you aren't going to grow down on me, I'm not going to grow down on you.
	And maybe they even like giving head.
	They like it.
	They enjoy it, but they say, I'm not going to do it because you don't want to do it to me.
	Is there a question?
	Are you arriving at a question?
	I'm waiting.
	Yeah.
	Okay, go, Versus the woman who says, maybe, like, I don't enjoy giving it, but I will give it to you because I like to see you happy.
	What is the question?
	Where is the question mark?
	Where is the question mark?
	You said that you would have a problem dating a woman like that.
	There is a woman who is saying it's tit for tat.
	Would you have a problem with tit for tat, or would you have a problem with, you know, a woman who enjoys, who's only giving it to give you pleasure?
	Like, would you have a problem with either of them?
	Well, that, what?
	This was not well articulated.
	I don't know why.
	Hold on.
	Okay.
	This is coming out very clearly.
	I phrased it perfectly already.
	No, you didn't.
	Yes, you did.
	Let me try.
	Let me try again.
	Jesus because I can't.
	Okay, okay, look, look, look, look.
	She enjoys giving you head because it makes you happy.
	Yes, you get that concept.
	She enjoys giving you head because it makes you happy.
	Yes, okay, I get that.
	But you hates it.
	But she doesn't actually enjoy it.
	I don't want a girl.
	If she hates it, I don't want her doing it.
	Even if it makes you happy?
	Even if she hates it.
	So she doesn't like the physical sensation, but she does it because it makes you happy.
	She's not a throat goat.
	And he's in you by name.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	I don't want an unenthusiastic BJ.
	No, it's enthusiastic.
	She's enthusiastic because she knows that it like the time would be just a bad thing.
	I don't want like a sympathetic little protest.
	I'm sorry, Mike.
	A begrudging blowjob.
	Get the fuck out of here with your begrudging.
	She is passionate because it makes you happy.
	She just wants to be happy.
	But then she also wants head because it will make her happy, even if the feeling is too much.
	Check out this vibrator.
	I got it.
	Too negative.
	I guess here that's a good sensation.
	Check out my index finger.
	What's up?
	I got it.
	You can check out her vibrator and index finger.
	Bro, what is she going to bust out a fleshlight?
	Yeah, yeah.
	What if she did that?
	What if?
	Yeah, she busts out a fleshlight.
	She's like, oh, here's the thing.
	They're even more advanced for men.
	I've seen some lovelies like mechanical fleshlight binny things.
	They get wild.
	And they don't have that for women.
	And one of the prostate.
	My point is that it's different.
	It's a difference between a woman who's like, oh, you don't want to go down on me?
	Fuck you.
	I'm never going down on you versus a woman who likes it, who would do that anyway, right?
	Or a woman who says, I would never do that, but I'm just doing it to pleasure you.
	And then you're not reciprocating back.
	It's a difference.
	I think it's a difference.
	Sure, I guess.
	Yeah.
	Okay, is it a deal breaker for you if a woman doesn't give head?
	Huh?
	Is it a deal breaker for you if a woman doesn't give it a head?
	It's not a deal breaker, but she's a little less appealing.
	But if you don't feel careful, okay, wait, although, honestly, you know what?
	Besides, actually, wait, there was one relationship I had, and it was actually a good relationship.
	It was actually good.
	Where she did make it tit for tat.
	She's like, well, you don't want to do it.
	I'm not going to do it.
	And this was when I was younger.
	I would have probably because here's the thing.
	I think that you can just because your partner doesn't want to engage in a certain sexual activity doesn't mean that you necessarily have to be like, oh, so I'm not going to do that shit for you.
	Like, I don't think, like Amy said, I don't think it has to be, I don't think it has to be tit for tat, but I did have a relationship with a girl like that.
	And fell apart with tit for tat for other things?
	So what if you found out?
	What if she said to you?
	Hold on, let me just finish really quick.
	So, so, but I mean, we were having, we were just having sex instead.
	It wasn't a relationship, it was just sex.
	No, we had a relationship, but just she wasn't going down on me.
	I wasn't going down on her.
	But I'd say the most of my other relationships, I don't go down on the girl, she goes down on me.
	Good for you.
	And you, as you use, yeah, you still make them finish with everything.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I still take them.
	I make them come before they even go down.
	That's the least you can do.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, no, no, that's not.
	No, I've already said that.
	Yeah, I was trying to make the girl come.
	Okay, that's acceptable on you.
	Yeah.
	Acceptable.
	Yeah, bro.
	It's not taste very nice for her.
	Wait, taste very nice?
	No, I make her.
	What?
	I don't come.
	No, no, no.
	I make her come before.
	Before she puts her.
	So you go inside her before she puts her mouth on you.
	I just don't get how you didn't get what my question.
	I don't get how you didn't get what I was saying this whole time.
	There was no question mark.
	There was no question mark.
	So you were saying you would have a problem with a woman who does that.
	Does what?
	Tit for tat?
	Yes, correct.
	But what if the only reason she was doing that was because she is just wants to see you pleasured.
	It's not because she likes doing it.
	She does not enjoy the dick down the throat.
	She does not enjoy the mouthache.
	She does not enjoy.
	I think it's a good idea.
	Which is so much.
	Hold on.
	What is more enjoyable to do?
	To give head or to eat pussy?
	Because you've done both.
	Which one's easier?
	Which one hurts your jaw less?
	Which one tastes better?
	Which one's nicer?
	Yeah, giving head to a man.
	Turn your mic, it's kind of like, yeah, there you go.
	Go ahead.
	I would say giving head to a man is a lot more work because giving head to a woman is just like simple tongue action flicking, you know.
	But for a man, you have to put a whole like engorged thing inside of your mouth continuously.
	It's gaped wide open.
	And sometimes, you know, they take a while.
	It depends.
	So it's like, so it's not only more work and she's doing it for his pleasure.
	And then he's like, I'm not even going to do the easier task for your pleasure.
	I don't like it.
	Not even because he doesn't like it, but he can't even be like, I'm just doing this because I want to see you have to.
	Right.
	That's the problem that I have with it because most women are not sucking dick because they're like, oh, that's why I'm doing that.
	Unless if it's even, what's it?
	I mean, my ex used to tell me different.
	He's like, Nari, girls fucking love it.
	They love to suck the date.
	That's what they tell you.
	That's what they say.
	I know I had to ask like, oh no, I saw this video.
	These girls like really seem to enjoy it.
	Yeah, that they did seem to enjoy it in a video.
	Like, whoa.
	They're getting paid for that video.
	They enjoy the pay for sure.
	I just don't think, look, there's some things that women might not like in the bedroom.
	There's some things that men might not like in the bedroom.
	Ultimately, we all have our preferences when it comes to what we like and what we don't like.
	And I don't think it has to be totally reciprocal.
	I don't think it has to be totally, or sorry, not reciprocal, symmetrical.
	You know, I certainly, what I do find interesting, though, is there seems to be a lot of pushback when a guy doesn't want to go down on a girl.
	Like, it's like, oh, wow, oh, you must be selfish.
	You must be XYZ.
	Because it's easy.
	It's easy.
	Like, it's much easier to go as opposed to going, ha!
	What the fuck?
	Maybe he has like a tongue deformity.
	Maybe he can't like flick his tongue.
	Have you eaten pussy?
	Have you eaten pussy?
	He's basing it off of what you just heard.
	Warren, have you eat pussy?
	No.
	Why are you not commencing?
	No, I have.
	I haven't.
	Wait, did you?
	Wait.
	What the fuck?
	No, I. Maybe, maybe.
	Maybe you're discriminating how to plan the work.
	I had a feeling there was something between you two.
	You guys.
	Yeah.
	Be fucking.
	Okay.
	All right.
	In Australia, they tell you to go down under.
	Okay.
	I don't know how it is.
	So, okay, we've been talking about something degenerate, so let's talk about something toxic now.
	Oh, wait, really quick.
	Yo.
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	Drop us a follow in the prime sub if you have one.
	Nick, can you also pull up the Twitter post from that we gotta react to?
	This is one of your posts.
	So would you ever date someone with an OnlyFans?
	This is a question for the chat.
	Chat.
	Would you date a girl with an OnlyFans?
	One in the chat, if you would scroll it down.
	One in the chat, would you date a girl who has an OnlyFans?
	Two in the chat, you would not date a girl who has an OnlyFans.
	But one in the chat.
	If you would.
	I mean, OnlyFans, also, there's like a whole spectrum.
	So there's people who only do cooking on there, or there's people who do full sex work, or there's people who do drag.
	I don't think that matters, though.
	At the end of the day, your reputation is going to be affected regardless.
	And anyone going into that career and that profession should be very aware of the label that they're going to get, irregardless of the type of work they're doing on the platform.
	Yeah, but I think a lot of people assume OnlyFans is only porn, for example.
	Exactly.
	And they wouldn't date someone who is doing that specifically.
	Why not?
	But anybody who's willing to cast themselves within that same light and same shadow is willing to cop that same reputation.
	So whether or not they're willing to do the same act, like you just said, everyone's dumped into that same category.
	Therefore, if somebody is willing, is a willing person going into that, they know the type of ramification this is going to have on their dating prospects, on their reputation, on everything.
	So if they still choose to go into that, engaging in it, then they should cop the full ramifications of that, whether or not they're doing BG contact, whether or not they're naked or not.
	No, because in LA, I think in LA, if someone's like, I have an OnlyFans, people ask, like, what do you do on it?
	Versus, I think outside of LA, people are kind of like, oh, you have an OnlyFans?
	Then like you're for the streets.
	Is that what it's like in L.A. specifically?
	They categorize it based off whether you're...
	Yeah, yeah, like what you do on OnlyFans.
	Like Patreon.
	Okay, what led you to OnlyFans?
	Because you're a very smart girl.
	You're college, educated.
	You went to a very good school.
	You have a very impressive degree.
	So like what led you to the OnlyFans route?
	She said, fuck it.
	No, it's like a supply-demand thing.
	It's kind of like if men are giving me unwanted attention anyway, might as well monetize it kind of thing.
	Are you doing something other than OnlyFans to like supplement your income?
	Yeah, so I do real estate.
	I'm a property manager and I own several properties.
	Are you worried that OnlyFans is going to hurt your real estate business at all?
	No, I actually think that social media has given me a lot more opportunity when it comes to clients, when it comes to being like a buyer's agent or a seller's agent.
	I can just post like, hey, like, does anyone want to sell a house?
	And people actually don't personally know that many real estate agents, surprisingly.
	So I actually get more listings and more people to be my clients than before.
	It'd be like, oh yeah, my parents need to sell a house.
	And it's really surprising because I never thought those would intertwine, but it works.
	I feel like whenever you have a really big following though, irregardless, you could put up any offer and there's going to be people who fall through the cracks, right?
	Who you're like, okay, this is my ideal client.
	It just, it's lore of averages if you have a big enough following.
	But on the balance of probability, I would not deem that as like an effective marketing strategy.
	No, I don't think that's.
	To be able to attract real estate clients, for example.
	Yeah.
	However, I had a lot of people in my class that I had to go through like the real estate exam and everything and go through the classes.
	I would say like majority of my classmates like have not ever had a listing, for example, or have had deals, even though they've been in the industry for like a couple years.
	So it's like only, so because you're a sole proprietor and you have to like get into your brokerage yourself, there's not like, oh, you get hired specifically.
	You have to kind of like hustle your own way.
	And it's all about like your spirit and who you know and not even what you know.
	Like it actually is advantageous if you have a social media.
	Like ironically, like the people who work really hard who are really fucking smart.
	For sure.
	Your network is your net worth, but like I would like, I deem it questionable when the people in your network deem you in a certain light and a certain regard.
	Is that really advantageous to you long term?
	Possibly by what you're saying, but I think for the average person having that type of reputation and the people in your network generally regard you in such a light, like I don't think that would be advantageous to Marie's business in that.
	For the average person at least.
	What's more profitable?
	Your real estate agent, like your real estate business or your OnlyFans?
	It's about even for sure.
	Because I have like Airbnb.
	So why don't you just go all in in real estate then?
	Because it's like an extra six figures a year.
	Okay, I get it, but sorry, it's really all in on multiple things, right?
	Could you not see yourself if you were put away from the OnlyFans stuff and you just went all in on real estate?
	But also with my OnlyFans network, all my homegirls and all my friends also make a lot of money who don't have the financial advice or like the real estate networking connections to help them invest in different real estate properties.
	So like six figures in real estate, don't you think it's a cop-out to tell women that the only way that they can make six figures is by literally turning themselves into a commodity and selling their body?
	You don't know what they're doing.
	Maybe that's the only way.
	But you make six figures through another avenue.
	And what I'm saying is why not go all in on that?
	And you're saying, but I have friends.
	They see that as their only thing.
	No, it's not that their only thing.
	It's just that I can help a bunch of people who have a decent amount of income who can purchase houses versus most of my nine to five friends actually cannot afford homes.
	So do you actually recruit girls for OnlyFans?
	What do you mean?
	Like a referral program.
	Yeah, do you referral program for like agencies or just for like OnlyFans?
	I would say most people already do OnlyFans that I know.
	Like when I started doing OnlyFans, a lot of people already do it.
	But I think occasionally I'll be like, yeah, like if anyone wants to ask me questions, like here are the pros and cons.
	But I wouldn't be like, yeah, this is the life indefinitely.
	But so what she's asking is you recruit those people into your OnlyFans business or not?
	Oh, no, I don't have a personal business or agency.
	I'm just a sole proprietor for my own OnlyFans platform.
	Right.
	But they have an affiliate program, right?
	Where they can refer anyone and they can make up to 5% of the commissions of the person who they brought on, irregardless of whether you're an agency or not, you can be an individual.
	Kind of like an MLM, right?
	You can just send someone your signup link.
	They sign up and I think to my understanding, what she's saying is that there's already girls doing it that then ask her for help versus her seeking out other girls and being like, oh, join OnlyFans.
	Ask you for help with what?
	Like growing their own OnlyFans.
	How to optimize them.
	Yeah, how do you optimize it if you're not like doing more, like if you're not doing crazier and crazier pictures, how are you growing an audience on OnlyFans marketing?
	Marketing for your front end.
	So you can do like comedy skits.
	You can start doing cosplay stuff.
	You can go to Broadway.
	You can do like anything that's front end.
	You can do music.
	People, like as long as you have exposure, they will fund into your OnlyFans.
	You don't have to go more and more explicit.
	I think that's a misconception that you have to go more explicit and you have to do porn.
	But it is to a degree, not to get people to sign up.
	But the main thing with OnlyFans is the residual income, the fact that it's recurring.
	It's month after month.
	But if somebody signs up and like, oh, this bitch is literally just dressing it as a furry.
	She's dressed in cosplay.
	Like that's not going to do anything for them.
	And what I see is, especially in a society where things are getting more and more degenerate.
	And now we're getting the AI girlfriends, we're getting these AI parasocial relationships.
	Things are going to get more and more degenerate.
	They're going to have to keep pushing the envelope and pushing the envelope and pushing the envelope in order to get people to subscribe on that like residual basis.
	And I think that's what she's more so talking about.
	It's not about the marketing to get people in.
	Like I know people who literally said, hey, I'm launching at OnlyFans, had a thousand people sign up and their first picture was a thing saying, sucker, I got you.
	Right.
	It's not about that.
	It's about the ability to be able to have that ongoing residual income.
	And that is not going to happen unless you are delivering the content that these people want or expect.
	Wait, now I kind of want an OnlyFans that just goes like, I mean, there are a lot of people who actually scale back.
	Like, I actually know people who used to be in porn, who used to actually do in real life clients and all that.
	So they were prostitutes, basically.
	Yeah.
	I knew people who used to be prostitutes who just scaled back on OnlyFans and now they only do like lingerie stuff.
	And it's great because they were able to like save up and eventually like delve into something that's legit.
	I know people like from all avenues who like started from OnlyFans and then they funded all the money into different like passions that they're into.
	Like I have a friend who's a race car driver, but they had an OnlyFans for a year before they were able to like fly themselves to these different like racetracks and stuff like that.
	And she's really open about it too.
	Yeah.
	And I think that's great.
	I think if you're gonna do it, then fuck you.
	Have an exit strategy.
	Have a plan.
	Because number one, your body is a depreciating asset.
	And even in the realm of Mils and Gills, though.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But then somebody's gonna make an AI of you and you're not gonna get paid shit for it because they're just gonna create something in your likeness or something that's even more attractive.
	Because to be honest, anyone can do that with AI.
	But that's the fear.
	But the money, like, you know, opportunity costs, like, money is worth way more now than later.
	If you just like don't optimize anything that you have now that you can take advantage of, then it's gonna pass.
	And then in the future, you might ask, like, oh, what if I did that?
	True, but also, but no, I agree, but most of your time.
	With your mindset and intellect.
	I would agree, but with your mindset and intellect, not with your body.
	I feel like at the end of the day, there's two very different types of people.
	There are certain people who believe, who are very opportunistic.
	And I think it's a good thing to be opportunistic, but you need to have parameters on that.
	At the end of the day, your money, money should never cost your fucking dignity.
	That's what I believe at the end of the day.
	And there's people.
	It's undignifying.
	I think it's undignifying because I think that at the end of the day, your body, your naked body is the most intimate you could ever be with somebody other than physically doing the act with them.
	And there's maybe some people who are able to be emotionally detached from that, but I would agree that it's very rare.
	And even you, Pixie, have admitted that.
	You literally said on the podcast with me that if you were to put your naked body on OnlyFans, you'd probably be depressed.
	You probably deal with self-esteem issues.
	Yeah, but that's also me personally.
	I know, but that is the majority of women.
	The majority of women, because of our psychological proclivities and our inclinations, will not feel good about ourselves because sexualizing yourself nine times out of ten.
	I feel like I have more agency over sexualizing myself.
	I also wasn't swim my entire life.
	So like I was in like competitive swimming.
	I had personal trainers my whole life.
	And I feel like I was just in swimsuits like my entire life growing up.
	And I was in the junior Olympics and I feel like people sexualize me no matter what.
	And I feel like if people did that, it's going to be different in professional sports.
	Like my mom was a professional swimmer.
	That's very different at the end of the day.
	Definitely still do that.
	They will in any song.
	Sorry, sister, keep going.
	They will in any industry that you're a part of.
	They're always going to find a way to do that.
	But I feel like a professional swimmer, especially at like that type of professional level, Olympic level, very, very different are OnlyFans girls.
	And one of the biggest things about sexualizing leads to something called objectification.
	Objectification.
	Objectification means that you only deem yourself as an object.
	You view your value based off your physical appearance, which is proven through many, many different studies that that is one of the ramifications that come along with sexualizing yourself or being sexualized by others.
	I have a question for you.
	So what do you think about people who acted in, for example, euphoria, HBO shows like Game of Thrones?
	I'm completely against all of that.
	And honestly, I'm probably deemed as someone who's a little bit extra in our society, but I don't watch any of that.
	I don't watch, I never watch euphoria.
	I don't listen to music that explicitly talks about being overly sexualized.
	I am very, very intentional about anything that comes in here because I know that everything that comes in here determines what I speak, what I think, and literally my day-to-day interaction.
	So I'm really not the person to ask about that.
	I do agree that there are issues with that, but I think that's very, very different.
	That is not the slippery slope we're talking about in how maybe media and music is a little bit risque.
	It's a little bit this and that versus blatantly sexualizing yourself on a second.
	Well, in Game of Thrones, like the first episode, Khaleesi, like, you know, was naked.
	The brother touches his boob, her boob.
	And there's a lot of sexual things going on.
	I hate all of that.
	For me personally, I hate all of that.
	I would not engage with any of that.
	And I would not let my children ever engage.
	I would be that overprotective mom who's like, you don't get an iPad.
	You don't get this.
	You're not going to have these things infect your subconscious brain before you come to adulthood and you're able to determine how to react to those things.
	But what if they get exposed to it anyway?
	And they and they probably have friends.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	But I think at the end of the day, the standards that you implement in your home, like your leadership within your home needs to be stronger than the world's programming.
	That's what I thoroughly believe.
	And I was somebody who used to say I didn't want to have kids.
	I was strongly of the opinion I don't want to have kids because I know this world is fucked up.
	And I don't want my kids to be affected by that.
	But I have learned to accept personal accountability over the last year to the point where I've realized that my parenthood, my leadership of my children needs to be stronger than the world's influence over them.
	And that's what I believe.
	You're capable of doing that.
	It's difficult.
	But I believe that it's possible.
	Yeah.
	I just think you're just so unbelievably talented and smart because being in the junior Olympics, that's very impressive.
	I never grew taller, so I never made it to the real.
	I mean, also, you are well endowed, so I'd imagine that would also be different.
	What do you mean well ended up?
	What are you talking about?
	Well endowed, well endowed.
	They're fake though, right?
	You got fake titties?
	No, they're not fake.
	They're pretty.
	They're right there.
	Are they real or fake?
	I'd imagine it'd be difficult to be an athlete with a lot of people.
	I got fake titty vision.
	Okay.
	Well, either way, you're very impressive.
	And I just wonder, like, is there a reason that you would choose, like, do you have some sort of affinity to OnlyFans and to sex work when you have so much other talent that you could put out there that other people might find the sex work debasing and also find that sex workers eventually find themselves debased.
	Wait, what do you mean by debased?
	Welcome to the podcast.
	OnlyFans intervention.
	Well, no, I think this is like the biggest difference between what you guys think and what other people think.
	And it's basically not for everybody.
	Sex work is inherently debasing.
	And it is intimate for a lot of women, but that doesn't necessarily mean like that sexualization, sexualization of the self is seen as a bad thing.
	It can become a bad thing.
	It can become objectification.
	But I think a lot of people also associate that with a lot of other jobs that they think are even worse.
	So for example, McDonald's or like doing service industries can get very objectifying and humiliating very quickly.
	I worked at the recst here, so I literally just went to the gym earlier today at UCSB.
	I had to clean up literal human shit, and I think that was, like, way more...
	That's the most humiliating thing ever.
	Hold on just a sec.
	For Amy, I appreciate you teaching them that selling your body on the internet is not the only way to make money these days.
	Clearly, there are better ways to make money than starting an EarlyFans.
	But how does one new RR what the learner of averages is?
	Earnly fans.
	How does one of averages?
	Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying it's the only way to make income, but I think that's another avenue that I want to take advantage of when I'm young.
	Once I hit like 33 or something, then it's like completely gone.
	Or I can go towards an avenue where it's like, oh, it's just bikini modeling.
	It's like, oh, it's equivalent to, oh, your mom was like a Playboy bunny, which for my circle and people in California and LA is not that negative of a thing.
	How did you start?
	How did you start doing what you're doing?
	Like, what was the moment?
	And did you have any questions or precautions about it before going in?
	And if sorry, what changed your mind?
	So I used to do Patreon where I would sell professional prints because I'm also really into photography and like cosplays and all of that.
	So I would have, I had a Patreon and then everyone was moving towards OnlyFans, even though OnlyFans had like a bad reputation.
	And I'm like, and but people were like, you can do the same exact thing, but then you just do it on the OnlyFans platform because there's way more people on there.
	And I think that was kind of the decision.
	And then I saw the revenue and it was good.
	And then did you sexualize your photos more after you saw it?
	Did your type of style of content change the more that you got into working on that platform and realizing what was acceptable at the time?
	I guess it was a little bit more sexualized, but I still do not, for example, show any vagina or like do any like.
	But did you do on Patreon like sexualized?
	Did you show your titties on Patreon or just OnlyFans?
	No, no, I didn't show my titties on Patreon, but on OnlyFans.
	So since you started OnlyFans, that was one boundary that you kind of were able to push through, basically.
	Oh, was it against TOS and Patreon?
	I think in Patreon, it was against TOS.
	Yeah, Patreon, it is.
	But I never thought that topless content was super outrageous.
	Like, I liked looking at magazines that had beautiful, like, new.
	So I also was an art minor, and then we always had new models where we would draw them.
	And I wasn't like, how dare they show their titties?
	And the guys are literally completely naked.
	And you would draw their penises.
	I just never thought that was a terrible thing.
	It was like UCSD, by the way.
	They would like my finger joint class.
	Yeah, they would have nude models to study the human body.
	I just never thought it was such a taboo thing.
	Okay, question for all the girls here who do OnlyFans.
	Do you object to, and maybe you've heard this from men, but would you object to a man not wanting to date you because you do OnlyFans?
	I think that's fine.
	I think it's funny.
	They don't have to date me.
	My ex?
	But do you have any feelings about it?
	Like, fuck you.
	You don't know me.
	No.
	No, they're ignorant.
	They're immediately ignorant because it's like, you don't know me as a person.
	Like, you know, I could be the best wife, the best mother.
	Just because of my job title, you're going to, you know, like, shit yourself out of luck, pretty much, because you can go be with a regular girl that has a nine-to-five and she can be shit to you as well.
	So, I mean, and that happens in real life.
	It does happen.
	But if you had to choose between a regular chick who's shit at you, who's shitty?
	Shitty versus a chick that doesn't break.
	Ask the chat.
	Sex work, who should eat.
	At least a sex worker gets bred.
	At least they get a spillover.
	Yeah, but you don't share it.
	Women don't share their money with men.
	So that's true.
	No, I don't think that's true.
	That's such a modern answer.
	But okay, earlier on in the conversation, you said during the pandemic, you were holding a guy down.
	Like you were paying for everything he was living with you.
	And you're like, ooh, like I.
	Well, she was also doing that.
	Yeah, he wasn't cooking or cleaning or working out.
	Like, I would be totally fine with a trophy husband who just chills and like hangs out and is just like cute.
	That's totally fine with me.
	How much you make?
	She says, and didn't work out, Brian.
	This was an issue for her, okay?
	I will buy them an Equinox membership, like personal trainer.
	He has to work out.
	Yeah.
	I mean, that's like, if they cook and clean, it's fine.
	So it's like either or.
	They have to either cook and clean or they work out.
	So one of those.
	So if the guy's shredded, you'll be like, okay, I'll do all the work.
	At least you're in really good shape.
	Yeah, I thought it was both.
	I thought he had to be a hot VOD and it's like a lot of people.
	That's like impossible.
	My standards are not that high.
	Is it really like?
	I feel like when it comes to taking care of the house, I don't know.
	I live pretty much on my own.
	Guys, don't know how to do laundry.
	Guys, don't know how to feed themselves.
	I do my laundry.
	I feed myself.
	Can you cook?
	Amazing.
	I eat out a lot.
	I can cook, but I prefer to, or sorry, I prefer to cook.
	He doesn't eat out a lot.
	If you can see that very clear on this show.
	What does your toilet look like, though?
	Is it clean?
	It looks clean.
	It looks clean.
	Oh, this is.
	Do you do toilet?
	No, at home.
	No.
	Well, I got the studio.
	I'm taking care of the studio and my other place clean as a motherfucker.
	Okay, that's easy.
	That's good.
	Two kids.
	That's cool.
	Do you have a maid?
	No, I clean myself.
	Okay.
	I feel like it's like one or two hours a week.
	What percentages of your meals do you eat at home versus?
	Oh, I do DoorDash for most of my meals.
	Convenience, opportunity cost.
	How do you wipe your ass?
	Awesome.
	What the fuck?
	How do you, after you go to the bathroom, what do you do?
	Oh my God, that's your ass fancy outfit hygiene.
	Bro, this is a men, a male topic for my is it front to back or back to front?
	Are you talking about my technique or like she's asking?
	What the fuck?
	No, that's true.
	There's like some Reddits.
	No, I have Reddit.
	I take that shit a step forward.
	Not only do you have paper.
	You have a big day, huh?
	You should get.
	No, but I have the Amazon wish.
	Booty wipes.
	Yeah.
	Booty wipes, son.
	I heard a Reddit post this doctor was talking about how like with her male patients she would do like prostate exams and like 50% of them they would sit down on the white piece of paper and when they would get back up they would like leave a mark.
	It's so gross.
	Can you guys hear?
	Jack, can you hear that?
	I really like the yelling and welcome to the whatever podcast where the local crackhead is having a blast down down on the street.
	Did he really?
	Was that a full can or an empty can?
	Nobody wants to play it.
	I think he plays League of Legends and he's really upset that nobody wants to.
	Well not really overlaid.
	I have no fucking idea.
	Wait, we were talking about what?
	Why are you so walking around wiping?
	Yeah, what the fuck?
	Because men are gross is the point.
	But I do think it's similar to intellect.
	Like I think women, like when it comes to cleanliness, similar to intellect, they're like average cleanliness, whereas men are either like neurotically clean or disgusting.
	There's no middle growth.
	Yeah, I feel like let's do a couple chats here.
	So we have Liam LA kick that J17.
	What is J17 out?
	What is J17?
	Is he a Jew thing?
	That's what I was saying.
	Oh my gosh.
	Is it a Jew thing?
	I'm so worried.
	Bring on the anti-Semitism people.
	I face Nick Fuentes.
	I'm ready.
	I don't know.
	We have Anonymous here.
	Basic human dynamics, opposite attracts.
	One is a receiver and one is a giver.
	One likes being on the bottom and one likes being on the top.
	When both are givers, y'all competing who is better or vice versa.
	In conclusion, bad sex causes failed marriages from Anonymous.
	Thank you very much.
	Appreciate it.
	That escalated quickly.
	You don't have good sex.
	All right.
	We have Big Blue here.
	Oh, Brian, Brooks and Brain.
	Sorry I'm late.
	Busy day intervening in fights, counting debate points on my fingers, buying Neutrogena, making pitch decks.
	Identifying as a hippo anyway.
	Martin is misunderstood.
	Long live Wall Street Bets.
	RIP in peace or rombe.
	Yo, stochastic, send me a DM on Instagram.
	RIP Rambo.
	Yo, Big Blue, Lauren, tell the audience about how you got booted from the Air Force Academy for trying to seduce a cadet.
	Oh, I left the Air Force Academy on good terms and got an honorable discharge and am currently about arrays.
	Fake news?
	Yeah.
	So you can probably get a VA loan.
	No, I can get a VA loan.
	Yeah, I absolutely can.
	All right, we have Conan.
	You should get a quadplex.
	You should.
	Okay, Conan 19.
	Head for men versus women is very different.
	Some men find the idea of unsettling, of sticking their tongue in the hole that excretes blood.
	Old tissue, pee, and multiple dicks have came inside of before.
	You literally don't know how to do it.
	Just by that description, what do you mean?
	Don't throw Conan 19 under the bus.
	What?
	No, I'm talking about the fact that he just said in the hole.
	Like, what are you talking about?
	You just put a token there.
	I mean, what they do is like proximity thing.
	Same for them.
	How are you getting tissue up in there?
	I don't know.
	Oh, yeah, he said pee.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	I think he thinks women have to pee out of the vagina.
	Women pee out of the vagina.
	What a wake up.
	Wait, are you being, are you joking?
	Yeah, no.
	Conan.
	That's what he thinks.
	I am confirming his beliefs.
	Oh yes, we have only two holes there.
	I have a family.
	When it comes to peeing, though, you could actually argue that, I mean, the urethra is closer to the clit than the so I mean the tip that we have to insert in our mouth.
	The urethra is closer to the clit.
	So where you pee out of is closer to the colour.
	It is the clitoris.
	But then for the men, it's really just like.
	No, but I mean it's no you're saying that men the proximity.
	No, I'm saying that the proximity the proximity of the female urethra is closer to the clitoris than say like the he's just trying to show off his anatomy skills.
	He's just trying to prove that he knows how to make a woman talking about it.
	We'll give you that.
	He's like, look at me using the sky.
	I know female anatomy.
	He's like, I know clitoris.
	I know Pallabia.
	Oh, we got big red.
	It's $830.
	Thank you.
	To the ABG in the front right corner, a Texan could treat you right.
	Brian checked out during the Of Convo the same way the girls would have during a wow rant, but he wasn't playing World of Warcraft.
	Wow.
	Do you have a response to him?
	He's calling you an ABG.
	What's that?
	Asian boba girl?
	Wait, Asian baby girl.
	Asian baby girl.
	Isn't that for girls who are like from here?
	Yeah, I think it typically applies to like American-born Asian women who have a certain like attitude or style or something.
	It used to be like related to gangs, but now it's more of an aesthetic.
	So it's like someone who has tattoos, dyed hair, and goes to raves.
	Do you have a response to him?
	Sorry, I didn't really catch it.
	What did he say?
	He said here.
	To the ABG in the front corner, a Texan could treat you right.
	So he's asking you.
	He's asking you.
	I would vouch for a southern boy.
	I've never been.
	That'd be cool.
	Okay, I guess.
	Are your DMs open or not?
	Because you have like three boyfriends right now.
	I'm going to have seven.
	Yeah, I have no clue.
	You what?
	You could try.
	There's a lot of them.
	You could try.
	Wait, okay, give us more details about how much competition there is, though.
	Like, okay, so you said there's like you're kind of dating.
	Be specific.
	Do I have to?
	You have to.
	Are you going to make me cry?
	I'm going to make you.
	Wait, are you going to cry?
	No, okay.
	So as your friend, I would say sexually is literally just like one person.
	Oh, wait.
	So sexually.
	Or just one person.
	Like, who like barely like.
	Barely what?
	Like, they don't.
	They don't what?
	They just fuck.
	It's not like, no, it's not like they.
	No, no, no.
	They don't see each other every single day.
	They don't live together and things like that.
	Like, it's just like, yeah, one person sexually with their situation.
	Yeah.
	Do you feel okay with her saying your situation?
	Oh, no, you can, you can talk.
	I mean.
	She said if that.
	So what do you mean by if that?
	You mean that?
	Well, she's not actually turbulent.
	He comes around from time to time, right?
	You know?
	Wait, so you guys are.
	Do you like this man for her?
	You think he's good for her?
	If she likes him.
	Do you like?
	If she likes him.
	Have you met the guy?
	Have you met the guy?
	Wait, how long have you been seeing him?
	I don't know.
	Maybe a few months.
	So, what, you guys fuck once a week kind of thing?
	What do you mean?
	I guess whenever he wants.
	But okay, how if you had to.
	When does he want to?
	Once a week.
	Probably every time.
	Do you want anything?
	Every time, like once a year.
	How often is he swinging by?
	Twice a week.
	Twice a week.
	Have you had any conversations with where this is heading?
	Do you want to have a relationship?
	Do you want a relationship?
	Or do you not care at all?
	I'm not really sure.
	I think I just, I am just going with the flow.
	You have needs?
	I think I barely do, actually, but then if my partner wants to, then like I would be more than happy to.
	Wait, so quickly.
	His type of girl.
	He comes over.
	Do you guys like kick it or is it like he comes over, you fucking dips?
	Oh, we do stuff.
	like dates dates and then like oh you you'll go out in public Where do you go out?
	Like I said, I'm dating.
	I don't do that shit.
	Bluegill needed $100.
	Lauren, as I recall, although you received an honorable D, you got kicked out of you, Zephyr.
	Can you tell us the full story?
	I didn't.
	Or is it too embarrassing?
	You can't get kicked.
	If you got kicked out, it would be a dishonorable discharge.
	So on like my military paperwork, it says I have an honorable discharge.
	I don't know what their, I don't know who this person is, but nope, have an honorable discharge, honorably served my country for two years, did basic training.
	I did ESET, I did SEER.
	Then I went on to get a math degree, and then I went on to go to law school, and then I passed the bar.
	Speaking of the honorable D, you can honorably suck my D. Wait, are you going to, hold on.
	Are you going to let her talk to you like that?
	Don't let her.
	Okay.
	All right, we have Eric Beck.
	Why are men paying to view these women in OF, Google images?
	You can see women for free and corn on the hub.
	You can view the act for free.
	How do you keep these people paying for your content?
	I mean, isn't it just like a, there's the actual engagement of messaging back and forth?
	It's also like DMCA.
	Yeah, it's like more about the personality, but also there's DMCA.
	You usually, especially now, can't see everything that people put up.
	Like, even when it comes to, what was that musician who I canceled recently?
	Who's Lizzo?
	No, no, no.
	Lizzo.
	So she's.
	She got canceled?
	because she made oh my god I made a whole video on this Okay, anyway, I changed the lyrics to her songs to make a video on this.
	But anyway, she forced her force.
	All right, let's not talk about it.
	It doesn't matter.
	Oh, so the point is that she had, for example, like a video of her go viral because she fell off a stage and then saw everything.
	And then she erased it by the internet.
	Or from the internet.
	It's just that DMCA erasing is very strong now with technology.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right, Stiffler, ask the ladies, ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
	I hate this question.
	Rate our own looks or each other.
	What are you talking about?
	Okay, so either way, rate them out onto the right again.
	So rate your own looks.
	We'll go around the table like this.
	Like right at this moment.
	On a scale of one to ten, what do you rate your own looks?
	It depends on the day, man.
	Just like right now.
	Like six, seven.
	Don't do that.
	Pixie?
	Seven.
	No, say seven.
	I would say on a good day, a 10 out of 10.
	Yeah, a good day, I'm like nine.
	It depends on the day.
	Don't start that.
	Don't start that math.
	10 out of 10.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yes, very, very much so.
	10 out of 10 in delusion.
	What do you rate yourself, Ryan?
	Six.
	What do you rate yourself?
	You already said seven.
	Okay.
	Lauren.
	Four.
	Three.
	What the fuck, Lauren?
	Sorry.
	No, okay, for women, I feel like the scale is always above five.
	Like, that's like the zero.
	Are we going purely based off looks or is it all sorry intellect personality?
	It just looks just like.
	Okay, wait, no, I'm sorry, before you continue.
	This girl, we went out to the freaking bars like the other day.
	Seven men hit on her like in the night, like one after the other after the other after the other.
	I'm just saying, like you have to be delusional to think you're not a seven, at least.
	Okay, I'm done.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Yeah, I'm just saying.
	So, like, fresh out of the shower, like nothing.
	I'd say, like, yeah, six, probably.
	Wow, you guys really underdid it, I feel like.
	Well, no, but because think of a 10.
	Think of the most perfect, most beautiful woman that you've ever seen, and then try to, like, calculate the disparity between you and her.
	I'm just being logical.
	Like, honestly, yeah, I mean, for me.
	Okay, what about on your best day?
	Like, your best day, like, professional makeup.
	Well, totally.
	I mean, yeah, like eight, seven, eight.
	Sure.
	I'm a 10 right now.
	I'm just going to say.
	Also, like, attraction is so subjective.
	Like, I grew up with a really low self-esteem, especially in Bakersfield.
	There's no Asians where people are like, what the fuck is wrong with your self-esteem?
	But just in general things, right?
	So, like, symmetry is one thing that people really look for.
	Like, there are certain, like, like, things based in health, right?
	So, like, your complexion, having healthy, clear skin.
	These are things that, like, psychologically we're programmed to look out for, right?
	So, there are certain determining factors that really state whether or not somebody's attractive.
	It's not as subjective as what some people would make it seem.
	For sure, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
	I agree with that to some extent, but there are parameters which define that to some degree.
	To some degree, depending on like the culture, depending on the region and the area and what is popular.
	Sure, I mean, there's some cultures where, right, it's bad to be tan because they're like, if you're tan, then that means you work outside, therefore you're a peasant.
	Only the really pale people are attractive, right?
	Versus in a lot of Western cultures, being tan is considered a lot more attractive.
	So, I get being subjective in that sense, but I feel like there's certain factors, especially where symmetry is involved, that is a really large determination of whether someone's attractive or not.
	Yeah, I guess that's like kind of genetic.
	Can we see like who is because wasn't there like a vote of like America's most attractive people?
	It was like two people, a man and a woman.
	I feel like there were what was this?
	Every year, I'm gonna have a list of the most attractive people.
	Science is a lot of people.
	Wait, didn't Jennifer Anison win like two years, but like very like decades apart?
	That's so funny.
	I think she did.
	Really quick, we had Liam here.
	Liam, sorry, the TTS didn't come through.
	It's probably because you used a profanity.
	The robot voice doesn't like to read it.
	But that girl S a D and left.
	I sucked a you're allowed to suck.
	I'm not sure if you're aware about this.
	If you join the military, you're still allowed to suck dick.
	That's not like a religious booth.
	Lauren's a Laguna.
	Confirm or deny.
	Did you suck a dick while you were in the military?
	Didn't everyone?
	Did I ever win?
	Is it the reason I it's not the reason I left the military, okay?
	Okay.
	There's a lot worse.
	But there's always interesting.
	There's a lot worse going on in the military, so I just want to say.
	Child!
	Let's bring it to Pixie here.
	I got something for Pixie.
	What about me?
	So, Pixie, you're a feminist.
	All right.
	Are any of you, would you consider yourselves feminists?
	Anyone?
	I love humans.
	I don't love anybody.
	I would like things.
	Sorry.
	I don't want to make me lost.
	I would like things to become more equal, but I would say I was way more feminist in college than now.
	Okay.
	So you're still kind of feminist, but yeah, like I think the wage gap, like I think the average man said, makes way more than the average woman.
	And I think that's why men should pay for the first date because women have more consequences.
	A lot of these things, I feel like a lot of these things are applicable.
	And I think everyone, I mean, their experience and their feelings are valid depending on, you know.
	Don't you think men are paid more because they choose, like, they tend to choose more STEM jobs?
	Why do you think they are?
	And also, because their ability to be more work.
	Definitely not.
	Well, like, it depends on the culture.
	Like, in Asia, like, all the women are in STEM, like in white-collar jobs and, like, doctors and all of that, good at math.
	But then in America, it's like, so when I moved to America, I learned algebra in fourth grade.
	I moved to America, people are in, like, still on multiplication.
	And all the women acted dumb because it was like a social norm because that was cute.
	No, I think they just are.
	No, no, they're like, oh my God, I'm so bad.
	And it's popularized in pop culture because it's like cute.
	Yeah, it's like cute.
	And I was like, what?
	And then I was like bullied for being a nerd.
	But there's a lot of cultural differences.
	Like in Asia, there's a lot more like CEOs that are women and stuff.
	But like here, there's not.
	So I like to for society to kind of like not discriminate against women who like assuming they don't work as hard.
	In a capitalist market, if we were, if a company was really truly trying to maximize profits, which is what most companies do, and it's true that women just will accept less pay than men, then why wouldn't all of these companies hire exclusively women?
	Because then they could just pay 77 cents on the dollar and make huge money.
	Because men believe that women are less capable at producing good work when it comes to STEM.
	So like that's a problem.
	There's like these discrepancies between like how practices and like the companies are.
	I was in all these client classes and all these guys are like, oh yeah, like guys helping you.
	Well even STEM specifically because I don't really know STEM, but when you think about it, anybody who's able to maximize and get to like the top like one, two, three percent of their profession to the point where they're making multiple six figures, because at that point when you're making six figures, you're already considered to be the one percent of American income earners, right?
	Or like the top three percent at least.
	Top three percent.
	No, it's the top three percent actually.
	A hundred thousand per year makes you within the top three percent of income earners.
	That's false.
	No, it's not.
	It's not actually.
	It's not.
	No, no, no.
	Look it up because 100K in San Francisco is actually poverty per household.
	Yeah, I know, but when you consider that with this when you're talking about America as a whole, the top, when you make over 100K, that is considered the top 3% to 15.
	Sorry, and that is the disparity where women get that wrong because when they talk about the man that they want, oh, I want a man who makes six figures to be this, to be that.
	Oftentimes women think that that is a large majority of men.
	To be frank, when you calculate all those factors, it's less than 0.5%.
	It's usually less than 1% of men who actually make over six figures, who are at least like six foot tall, for example, who have a lot of the other characteristics that women are looking for, right?
	So honestly, people really get that messed up when it comes to income expectations.
	And especially with women who are able to maximize their income on platforms like OnlyFans.
	But I'm telling you, shit is rare.
	For the average man to make six figures, that is exceedingly rare for him to be able to do that regardless of your location.
	We live in San Francisco.
	No, it isn't the same thing.
	Wait, Kathy, are you feminist?
	I'm not sure.
	Definitely.
	Okay, maybe you're just apolitical.
	You believe you believe in equality between men and women.
	Wait, what?
	Feminism.
	You believe in equality between men and women.
	Oh, is that what feminism is?
	Yeah.
	Well, that doesn't seem to be feminism's goals right now, Pixie.
	I strongly disagree.
	I think a lot of people have a misconception of feminism because you have certain places or people who take like the worst type of woman or extremities of women and then put them in place and basically make fun of them.
	So is that like a no-true Scotsman?
	No, it's not a no-true Scotsman.
	By definition of feminism, you have to believe in equality between women and men.
	If you do not meet that definition, you are, by definition, not a feminist.
	But would you not agree?
	Sorry.
	Can you look at that there are a large majority of women who would claim to be a feminist who literally when they say like what do you think of men or XYZ?
	It's automatically something derogatory or something negative.
	And a lot of those women claim those ideas to be based on their principles of feminism.
	So are you saying they're fake feminists or I think it specifically depends on the context that you're talking about.
	So for example, if we're talking about like women who have gone like through SA, they might be talking about like, oh yeah, like these men in general or these men who these societal problems indicate a problem with how we raise men, for example.
	That's very different than being like, oh, I think all men suck, yeah.
	Yeah.
	But I feel like a natural like extension of feminism is this whole mindset of like, fuck the patriarchy, right?
	And that's one thing.
	Before I even knew what feminism was, I'd heard the term fuck the patriarchy.
	Before I even knew what the patient was.
	But that's the loudest of the internet.
	I think feminism is kind of like default in, for example, LA, San Francisco, and like a lot of the majority, like big cities, metropolitan cities, such as New York City, even Shanghai, like I would say, even Houston and Dallas, like big metropolitan cities, like people are default feminists.
	Right.
	But my question is, the loudest people, like portray it as like really negative.
	And I see a lot of people online who are like, oh my God, these feminazis, whatever.
	And I get that.
	Sorry, but sir, okay, if the argument of feminism is based on equality, then where are we, where would you consider us to be unequal in society right now based on the United States of America and where we currently are right now?
	What would you consider to be unequal, unbalanced?
	Let me add to that too.
	So you were saying feminism is about men and women are equal, equal rights, right?
	Not just equal rights.
	It's a little bit more than that.
	But generally speaking, sure.
	Okay.
	But do you think that women don't have equal rights?
	In the U.S. Or in Western countries.
	What is it?
	I think in terms of, okay, what do you define as a right?
	Let's start there.
	Do you mean like pure constitutional rights?
	I think women and men have.
	Reproduction rights.
	Men have it more.
	We can't just get our tubes tied.
	We actually have no reproductive rights.
	I have a decent example.
	That's not true.
	You guys can get a vasectomy.
	That is a reproductive right.
	That's a reproductive right.
	No, reproductive right has to do with the children.
	That's a consummation right now.
	Wait, okay, so wait, hold on.
	Let me ask you a question.
	If you were to get pregnant and you decided that you didn't want to keep the baby, would the person who impregnated you have a choice over your ability to get rid of the baby or not?
	Psychologically, but no, no, not physically.
	Right.
	No, but a reproductive right has to do with your body's reproduction.
	The fact that you can get a vasectomy is an example of a reproductive right.
	It's a vasectomy.
	With two tied women.
	No, I'm saying you're being like, men have zero reproductive rights.
	And I'm like, that's not true.
	Here's one reproductive right that men have.
	I feel like that's a contraceptive right, not a reproductive right.
	It's a contractus.
	So most importantly, women are legally encompassed that they don't see it.
	Men can get vasectomies.
	Women can sterilize themselves too.
	Not necessarily.
	It wouldn't have to be open.
	No.
	It wouldn't have to be a certain age.
	No.
	Approval by a husband.
	That's okay.
	Yes, it depends on the state and on the hospital.
	We can search it up right now.
	There is no law.
	So many of my friends try to get their tubes tied.
	They can't.
	That is not true.
	That is just, that's some myth that feminists have invented.
	Is it possible that some doctor was being sexist in some way and he said, are you sure your husband's okay with this?
	It's possible.
	But if you're a woman and you want to get your tubes tied, you can.
	The fact that hospitals can literally make it a policy for themselves to say, we will not tie a woman's tubes unless if she has Can do what they want.
	Okay, but well, private hospitals aren't allowed.
	Wait, Private hospitals aren't allowed to discriminate based on race, for example.
	They're not allowed to say, we're not going to take black patients.
	Yeah, because they have a constitutional requirement, but they're not legally required to give anybody who wants one sec.
	Quite comparing SF to the United States.
	The U.S. national median income is $32,000 per year in 2019.
	No too many people make over 100 como/slash year, and in order to be in the top 1% of earners, you have to make $650,000 per year.
	Reality check.
	Yeah, $100K is like top 10 to 15.
	It's not 10 to 15.
	It's top three at least minimum.
	It's still top 10.
	But okay, what rights do men have that women don't?
	The only one that I can think of, and I think this, it depends on your city, but men can go topless in public.
	That's the only right I can think of that men have that women have.
	I wish.
	The fact that hospitals can have a private policy stating, oh no, we're not going to allow a woman to get sterilized unless if she has like permission from her husband is already showing a vast difference between how they're treating men and how they're treating women.
	They have the same thing for men.
	A hospital could have a policy saying, okay, we won't give a man a vasectomy.
	I'm not saying men who can't give vases.
	They're not vasectomies and my women friends who don't want children.
	They want to be vected.
	I think I'm not sure on the procedure of getting a tubal legation.
	I think it's what it's called.
	And there's also, can you also get a hysterectomy?
	There might be a couple different things, but we can also agree that I believe it's a more invasive procedure to get your tubes tied than to get a vasectomy.
	That doesn't excuse you.
	Yeah, that could be the reason that could be related to perhaps the further hoops that women might have to jump through in order to undergo a more potentially dangerous and invasive procedure.
	Let's see if we can agree on this basis, right?
	Okay.
	There should be no hospital that should be allowed to say, okay, if you're a man in your early 20s, we're going to help you get a vasectomy or you can get a vasectomy versus, oh, if you're a woman, we're not going to allow you to do it unless you get permission by your husband.
	And if you do not have a husband, you're kind of fucked up.
	Private companies get to do what private companies want to do.
	Okay, but you can argue that private company.
	Hey, let me finish my sentence.
	You asked me a question.
	Let me finish my sentence.
	No, okay.
	You say, Kaiser is private.
	I have Kaiser.
	No, but here's the point.
	You shouldn't be able to discriminate on the basis of sex, right?
	We should agree that that's something that shouldn't be discriminated against.
	No, I don't think the, like, in the American.
	Isn't the 19th Amendment?
	It wouldn't be under the 19th.
	If anything, it'd be under like the 14th.
	I think it's a lot more discrimination.
	I think that they can.
	I think they can discriminate.
	Yeah, actually, I know they can.
	So why don't we do this?
	Let's just concede that all hospitals across the country are just denying women the right to get tubal legations or get sterilized.
	Let's just, what else?
	What do you mean, what else?
	Okay.
	When I say rights, like, but like laws.
	Yeah, no, I think in modern-day America, most discrimination comes from like social norms rather than laws.
	You asked me to give you some examples of unfair treatment, but I do think that America has come a very long way.
	And yeah, I think most of the discrimination is now social rather than legal.
	Okay, so sure, let's talk about social.
	What are some ways in which women don't have equal rights socially?
	Or okay, so there has been multitude of studies showing that when women or men have the same qualifications, if there is a woman name on the resume, they are less likely to get picked rather than like a male name.
	Well, number one, I feel like that is number one with what's it called?
	When I forget the name of it when they're like literally selecting women or literally selecting affirmative action with affirmative action.
	Women actually is like a band-aid, though.
	Yeah, but regardless, I think at the end of the day, it comes down to who can get the job done.
	When you look at it, right?
	And I've seen this from first-hand experience.
	A woman who walks into a job interview where the person tells them this is what you're going to get paid, a willing to probably going to walk out of that interview and be like, okay, shit, that's what I'm going to get paid.
	A man who walks into that interview who's qualified, who knows his worth, when they tell him that figure will say, no, I know what I am worth.
	And that woman is trained.
	That is a personality characteristic.
	And at the end of the day, that all factors in to this wage gap disparity that we're doing.
	It's very social, yes.
	And women are trained to be okay.
	Like, if an employer asks you, like, what did you get paid at your last job?
	Women tend to tell the truth, while men tend to say that they got paid 20% more.
	But now the wage gap is slowly diminishing and closing.
	But right now, it's still not there yet.
	But we're like on the other side.
	Actually, if you adjust, it's pretty much also women.
	It's gone.
	If you account for all variables, if you adjust for taking time off for children, for example, when you account for the fact that women are far more remote, like what woman is willing to work 80 hours per week to be able to get into the position of other men, men, that is naturally their proclivity.
	They are based on competition.
	How can I get ahead of the men next to me?
	Women don't naturally have that mindset unless they are an exceedingly rare type of woman.
	I strongly disagree.
	But then, on top of that, you can make the argument of like, oh, you know, who's pressured more to take care of children and to stay at home?
	It's always women.
	So I would say, oh, yeah, but that's a natural proclivity.
	I don't think you can make that claim.
	I don't think it's a if you look okay.
	The argument that's a natural proclivity comes from like, okay, civilization post-agricultural revolution, which has been like the last 10,000 years.
	And that is even by itself like very tumultuous because we look at, oh, men gained supply or control of the food supply at that time.
	So you can argue that like when men have control of the food supply, that's how like environmental factors end up creating society.
	But for the past 100,000 years before that, when we were nomadic societies, things were a lot more egalitarian in nature, which makes sense.
	We hunted in groups.
	We took care of children in groups.
	It was gatherers, though.
	There were women who were gathering and men who were hunting.
	But that doesn't mean one is more valuable than the other.
	No, if you look, but it's showing that they have different places, equal but separate.
	They serve different purposes within society.
	Okay, but here's the deal: the idea that it's like, no, women only gathered and men only hunted, that's not true either.
	There was a great overlap.
	We can search a friend.
	Some overlap, but there's no probability.
	Then why is that literally a thing where they said women were gatherers and men were hunters?
	Were they lying?
	I want to argue.
	Well, no, what would their motivation be to lie?
	No, because that's what happened.
	Because the argument post-1800s, when this was first brought up, was this idea that women are too frail and too weak to hunt, so therefore they must have only been gatherers.
	But if we look at, let's say, like the recent bone studies, basically, where we look, we examine the corpses and stuff, hey, guess what?
	A lot more are women than we previously thought.
	And which makes sense because the way that we hunted wasn't through brute force and strength.
	It was through literally walking animals until they collapsed out of exhaustion and then reaping the meat out of the water.
	That's how they did it back in the day.
	I didn't show you how to do it.
	I mean, sure.
	But also, modern society, because men aren't like just doing blue-collar jobs.
	I wouldn't agree if, like, we're in a blue-collar society.
	It's just farmers, it's just hunters.
	It's just construction workers.
	Like, I would agree that, yeah, men should do these jobs.
	But when it comes to like white-collar jobs, like, I think women are just as capable and intelligent and view the same that men should do the dangerous, dirty, difficulty.
	I think men are on average bigger.
	But we're masks.
	Would you say, like, can you name many women who you know in your friend group who are willing to work 80 hours per week on something?
	I could name several men who I know who I who are in my circle who do that or who aspire to do that versus most women were exhausted.
	I mean, I know we're doing an average 40-hour week.
	That's why most women are going to OnlyFans because they can't even work a fucking restaurant job.
	They can't even work a 40-hour per week job.
	So they go and they do OnlyFans and yet we're here fighting about women's natural work ethic and proclivity to be able to achieve the same results.
	I mean, yeah, you just assume that they're not willing to put in the work.
	You're assuming that I only do like OnlyFans and I'm not sure.
	Well, no, I know that you do other things as well because you stated it.
	I'm talking about on the balance of probability for most women.
	I know so many lazy men as well.
	Like, you know, the men, like, if you look at the stats of the norm, like, there are way more men who are homeless, who are unemployed, and there are also way more men who are billionaires.
	And I think there's just a lot more men on average who like do everything, but it's not represent, doesn't represent the whole.
	And same with like women.
	I think women more have like a normal curve where a lot of people work like maybe average 40 hours, but there are people who work more and there are people who work.
	But we're talking on the balance of probability.
	We're not talking about these.
	Yeah, the probability of it is that there are a lot of higher standards, which in turn relate to people's natural proclivities.
	I don't think we're talking about that.
	It's not necessarily natural.
	You might have like an excellent group of friends who are very extremely hardworking, but I know a lot of people who are just unemployed.
	Joe Dirt believing men and women are equal is crazy.
	Who's Joe Dirt?
	Yo, Bender the Offender.
	Thank you.
	So I do think that there are men who work.
	I think it's you, Pixie.
	I think you're Joe Dirt.
	I'm Joe Dirt.
	That's what he said.
	Do you know who Joe Dirt is?
	He's a character from movie and he had like a mullet.
	And so they're trying to say that.
	I have a mullet.
	No, you have beautiful hair and it's just blonde in color.
	These are actually things.
	They're just very stunning.
	you look stunning they're just it's just a movie reference And it's one of my favorite movies.
	I don't know.
	With your sample size of men that you know, I think they're probably really excellent people because you're like an excellent woman as well.
	But I do think that there are an equal amount of men who work zero hours per week and just like play video games.
	Like I do know a lot of unemployed men.
	And I think a lot of this is the product of the times, right?
	But I'm talking about like the natural like inclinations of people on a biological and like psychological level.
	There are reasons that are nature or nurture?
	No, I think it's nature.
	Like it's just nature.
	Nurture has an effect, but I believe at the end of the day, evolutionary psychology plays such a huge, huge part.
	How much, what percentage do you think like nature takes over compared to nurture?
	I mean, if you're raising a certain amount of people.
	And honestly, so for me, for example, when you look at my nurture, I should be a failure.
	I should be this, I should be that, and I'm not.
	But I could be an outlier.
	I know I'm an exception, exactly.
	And here's the thing: there are exceptions to the rule, but people try to use their personal experience to be able to denote what is actually going on in society when, to be honest, you're not, the world doesn't revolve around you.
	It's not correct.
	Just because this is my personal experience doesn't necessarily mean that that is how society functions or runs.
	Yeah.
	And I'm self-aware enough to be able to realize that.
	The same thing about your conclusion and assumption with OnlyFans girls too, though.
	No, I don't, because I do on a balance of probability, most OnlyFans girls are going to number one, affect their job prospects because AI is also being used to determine job candidates for a lot of companies right now.
	And they are on like a 0.01% accuracy and speed going through your history.
	So that's number one.
	And that's just going to become more and more prevalent.
	Number two, a lot of guys aren't going to want to date somebody who has been on OnlyFans.
	Some men will, but a lot of men, you are limiting your dating prospects.
	I feel like I attracted a lot more people who are open-minded.
	The type of men you'd want to date, though, or the type of men who are into you.
	Type of men that I want to date.
	But you also look at billionaires.
	The type of men that I would want to date are also attracted to me because they are also more open-minded.
	Then why are you dating them?
	She's dating them.
	I am not dating them.
	Okay.
	Oh, you're the single one over here.
	I know.
	But I'm not.
	Like, if you look at billionaires.
	And for you, I can tell you are, like she said, you're an exceptional person.
	You're obviously very interested in that.
	I don't think I'm necessarily that exception to the norm, though.
	Like, I know a lot of girls who graduated from college and they take like a high.
	She graduated from USC, dude.
	That's a way higher ranking than UCSB.
	Like, there's so many women.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	What's your degree?
	Art and design.
	Oh, wow.
	I just feel like there's a lot of women who are literally there.
	They put all of their value into their body being a commodity, and that is their only pleasure.
	I mean, I think most people are aware that the body does decay, but then there's AI.
	You know, if you're already an influencer, they can just keep on deep faking you.
	Like my boyfriend did do like a oh, my boyfriend did do a video for Paul McCartney where they defaked him to look like he was 20 and it was a whole music video.
	Like it's just like, there's so much more to the industry than what is to the eye.
	But aren't you guys worried about that as OnlyFans creators that then your value is going to diminish when someone can literally just make a replica of you?
	Like what type of intellectual people do.
	Replicas of people who don't do OnlyFans.
	I know a lot of celebrities where they have news out there, but it's just like someone does it.
	But this is already becoming prevalent the last couple of years.
	Imagine from now though.
	Hold on.
	So, okay, let's, we're talking about OF.
	We've talked about it quite a bit.
	Pixie.
	You're a feminist.
	Yes.
	A lot of feminists claim that women are oppressed.
	Yes.
	Do you agree?
	Do you think women are oppressed?
	Yeah, I think there's certain ways that women face oppression.
	Okay.
	So you're a woman.
	Yes.
	I didn't mean to assume your gender there.
	How are you oppressed?
	As I previously stated, I think it's absolute bullshit that me and a guy can have the same exact resume or that I might be overqualified than him.
	And on the basis of my name, out of like a million studies that there are out there, I am less likely to be chosen.
	However, the thing is, though, is that that's one study, but then you hear all this stuff about affirmative action and that, oh, we're going on a diversity hiring screen.
	Apparently, diversity has to do with 50% of the population or more than 50% of the population, which is women.
	Okay.
	So there seems to be a disparity between a company claiming to be diverse and inclusive and then actually hiring actual hiring practices, right?
	Can we assure that they are made out of hyper-liberal, typically women?
	Okay, I'm not the women of every HR department, but I can say that we can just like look at like blind studies and blind data.
	And when we look at affirmative action, the way that's supposed to work is that it's supposed to be two people of equal merit.
	Then, okay, we might pick the woman or the woman might be picked in certain scenarios.
	But either way, it doesn't change the fact that you see like a big gap in diversity for a couple of reasons, mostly favoring men.
	And guess what?
	One of these reasons.
	You think DEI has a bias towards hiring men?
	I think.
	Well, so it mainly has to do with this assumption that women will have children eventually.
	So it is true.
	If you see a name on a resume, if they're a woman, you assume that they're going to, especially a woman who is like mid-20s or late 20s or early 30s, they actually do hire women less because they assume that they will have children.
	So they're going to take children.
	Which it is.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So like that's a business decision, but it's still unfair because not all women want children.
	It's just like a generalization.
	And also like now a lot of men also take care of their kids.
	Like a lot of women want like stay-at-home husbands because the wage gap is closing.
	Hold on.
	With the HR departments and with diversity, equity, inclusion, almost all companies are attempting to hire like at least 50% women, have a certain amount of women on the C level, have a certain amount of women.
	What companies?
	What?
	Not in tech.
	Not in fucking fake.
	Not in tech.
	Trans people.
	And soft engineers.
	Oh, maybe in marketing.
	Maybe on like the front desk, but soft engineers.
	They're just programmers.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	They're not networked.
	In 2020, I've heard somebody.
	Can you name the company?
	Can you name the companies?
	Literally.
	Can you name the company?
	The first five biggest banks in America for certain.
	Like pretty much any company that cares about ESG scores whatsoever, which is like the majority.
	I think every single company on the NASDAQ.
	Oh, look at this.
	Apple.com diversity page.
	Inclusion and diversity.
	Nick, can you search this?
	Apple.com.
	Apple.com/slash diversity.
	Yeah, so just like how I said, yeah, no, no, just how I said.
	Listen to me.
	There is a gap between what people are stating, what they're marketing, versus what's actually happening in reality.
	And the gap is closing, but it doesn't change the fact that there is a gap.
	And the question is, why does this gap exist?
	It exists because, hey, people assume women are less competent.
	They assume.
	Yeah, they assume that women are less competent.
	They assume that women are going to have children.
	And women, to begin to get into these fears, is already very difficult.
	Hold on, they assume that women are going to have children.
	I mean, but is that a fair assumption to make?
	Don't most women have children?
	Well, they assume that the mother wants to take care of children.
	We're taught.
	Yeah, that's what we're talking about.
	Well, aren't there certain just like biological realities?
	Like she has to know.
	There's more women having children than men.
	Okay.
	Wait, controversial take.
	Pixie.
	Can men.
	Pixie.
	Pixie, Pixie.
	Hold on.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm not going to answer this question.
	I refuse to answer this question.
	Let me just ask.
	No, I know what you're going to ask.
	Hold on, let's just ask.
	Pixie, hold on.
	Wait, can we let her guess what you're about to ask?
	I know exactly what you're asking.
	What is he about to ask?
	You'd be like, can men have children?
	Can men get pregnant?
	Can men get pregnant?
	Wait, can men get pregnant?
	Let me answer.
	Okay, that's how I think it's.
	She thinks they can.
	She's a liberal.
	She thinks they can.
	Well, I think if you're a trans man, technically, but I feel like this is so already beyond the realm of general reality.
	Yeah, science is getting really interesting.
	I feel like anything can happen pretty soon.
	You're not part of this team.
	Oh, my God.
	Okay.
	Discrimination.
	We believe in trans men, so we don't get popcorn.
	It's fucked up.
	I'll give you something after.
	I don't want to just throw popcorn at you.
	I think you kind of does that.
	Wait, are you ready, Pixie?
	I'll check your mouth.
	Oh, that was an unstrolled.
	That was hot.
	I was like, what's the matter?
	Okay, that was assault.
	That was battery on camera.
	No, she consented.
	She said, throw it.
	That was like a outside of the bounds of consent.
	I'm so sorry.
	I didn't mean to throw it that hard.
	I thought popcorn would have a little.
	Yeah, it's not cotton candy.
	Is this a thing?
	You ready?
	You ready?
	He's like, Kobe.
	Catch up more booties.
	You literally.
	That's why I was trying to catch it.
	I mean.
	Thanks.
	Come on.
	Kobe.
	Almost.
	You're such a big target.
	Yeah, how are you missing?
	Wait, so men?
	Men can get pregnant.
	A trans man could theoretically, but I feel like this is just.
	Don't forget the non-binary.
	Don't forget the NBs.
	The babies.
	And the bombers.
	Don't forget the babies.
	Don't forget the hippopotamus.
	All the hippopotamuses.
	Fixy.
	So how are you oppressed?
	Besides that one example.
	Okay.
	What else you got for us?
	I'm more likely to get sexually assaulted.
	That's not oppression.
	I will say.
	Yeah, men are more likely to get away from it.
	How are you defining oppression?
	Okay.
	Like, oppression typically.
	Raise your hand.
	Okay.
	Do you want to ask me how to do that?
	Let me ask you a question.
	If you're like, let's say you're in the upper echelons of status of society, but like you fall victim to some sort of violent crime, like random violent crime.
	Does that mean that you are oppressed because you're a victim of a random violent crime?
	If it's random, but if it's on the basis of my gender, that's different.
	What?
	Wait, there's no female president.
	Would that same man do the same, or I'm assuming it's a man, do the same thing to a man, or is he seeking out women?
	I think that's what she's saying.
	Men.
	Like a Jack the Ripper vibe.
	Yes, men can get sexually assaulted too.
	But no, but people are mostly hydrothermal.
	It's not a specific circumstance.
	You're playing some weird judo with language here.
	I don't know exactly.
	Okay, let's start here.
	How are you defining oppression?
	Because that's where all the other arguments are going to be.
	You can define oppression.
	No, I asked you first.
	Free speech, a lack of free speech.
	Inequality, like you don't have something that the other person has.
	They have some type of a leg up, some type of a magical or mythological thing that is allowing them to be able to supersede your results, even though you have the same qualifications.
	Well, yeah, that's a very, yeah, that's a really good example.
	That's not a good example because you were people who became a politician.
	They were probably working 80 hours per week as either a lawyer or some other type of similar profession.
	Donald Trump.
	And what did you get to that?
	The idea that Twitch streamer.
	Hold on.
	You're just naming.
	Hold on.
	You're just naming the fact that certain jobs, men have dominated in those fields, but then you also have recognized earlier in this conversation that when it comes to like the men spending money on women, yeah, OnlyFans is a thing.
	No, because when I'm talking about the intellect, yeah, and into the mic when you're talking about it.
	Oh, when you talk about the intellect for men versus women, men have a much less steep bell curve.
	women have an extremely steep bell curve around the median, so you're going to have men who are...
	Is it more normal?
	Yeah, have a more normal...
	Like, it's a normal distribution for both of them, but women are much more centered around the median, have a much steeper bell curve.
	So you're going to have more men who are mentally slow, but you're going to also have more men who are excelling.
	Exceptional geniuses.
	So when you have spaces that like people of particular genius tend to excel, then men are going to be within, like are going to hold most of the space of the top 1% of the world.
	Oh, is this the greater male variability?
	Okay, this is the same.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's what you're going to talk about.
	I'm not going to lie.
	Maybe it's because of the fall of the middle class.
	Pixie's pissed.
	I just have to pick it up.
	Maybe it's because of the following I feel like women have to shorten it, but it's just the middle class that's literally becoming less.
	Let's purchase power lows.
	No, wait, let me ask.
	I just literally answered, but multiple times.
	You said you're oppressed because you have a chance of using a higher likelihood of being victimized, but yes, I'm more likely to be sexually harassed than a man, okay, than a man is to be sexually harassed by a woman or even other people.
	That's not, I don't think that's evidence.
	That isn't oppression.
	All sex are literally defined.
	That affects your day-to-day life.
	Like, every single day when you go out there, when you wake up, when you walk out of your house, when you go to your job, when you go to sleep, is this literally on your mind?
	That's not how we started.
	Actually, if you live in downtown LA or K-Town or Hollywood.
	Chicago, Fresno, Bakersfield.
	wikersfield new york city like just it depends it depends Chicago, isn't it like a lot of gang shootings, a lot of fire?
	I think of oppression.
	I think of, you know, not being able to vote.
	I feel like it needs to affect your dynamic.
	You need to own property.
	Okay, that's not how he first started establishing oppression, but even if you want to establish it that way, I think things that affect my long-term career opportunities and my long-term trajectory in life does count, even if it's not like a single instance every single day.
	It's the fact that my life is not a good idea.
	Men are not having a lot of people.
	Men are not holding you back from the job that you desire.
	What do you mean?
	If I literally, if I literally am just as qualified or more qualified for a job.
	Do you have of that?
	So you literally have study after study after study.
	You can search it up.
	There's no quality of outcome, but there's a quality of opportunity.
	Do you not acknowledge that?
	That's a problem.
	There's a quality of opportunity.
	And I'm not even getting the opportunity to shine in certain spaces.
	So you disagree that there is a quality.
	You don't think that there's a quality of opportunity right now?
	No, I don't.
	You have affirmative action.
	You have to go back.
	Yeah, but affirmative action is only a band-aid.
	Most people who get admitted to college, for example, from affirmative action actually.
	They don't reap the benefit of the affirmative action which they receive in the future.
	Okay.
	Affirmative action isn't this like little magical fairy wand that solves all problems regarding socialism.
	Guys, one mic at a time.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	Affirmative action is not this little magical wand that suddenly solves all problems when it but that's what you're saying.
	You're like you guys have affirmative action.
	And it's like even with affirmative action, there are still differences in the ways that men and women are treated in society, some of them unfairly.
	So okay, you've presented some study.
	You've made some arguments about, well, there's this study where with the two exact same resumes, the one with the male name does better than the one with the female name.
	But we actually, that's a study we have in action, like that's, I think, much more observable than a study.
	You have affirmative action.
	You have DIE in major, even mid-tier corporations, major corporations.
	Yeah, and you're like you still.
	So when they do the studies, though, they do comparison between with names and without names.
	And people who, like when you do the studies without names, way more.
	And you know who probably ran the study?
	It was probably some feminist studies program.
	It's not just one study.
	There's multiple students.
	There's entire journals.
	It's well established.
	Let me finish.
	Going into the study, they were looking, they were fishing for an exact, they were, it's like if you're looking for the answer.
	Yeah, you're saying that the study is false to the beginning.
	You mean like the same people applying to all of tech and then some tech places.
	Who conducted the study?
	Was it some feminists?
	I think it was Yale.
	I guess Yale is like a feminist.
	It doesn't have to be a feminist.
	But the assumption is that women will eventually have children and take maternity leave.
	So it's like a business decision.
	So what she is saying is true, but because of the business decision companies are trying to make.
	So you think that your career has just not manifested itself in the way you would have liked because you're oppressed.
	No, that's not what I said.
	I said that if I decide to go to certain career paths, I will most likely be at a disadvantage.
	What did you study in college?
	I studied, I triple majored actually in philosophy, economics, and psychology.
	Okay, so have you not been able to proceed in a career because of a STEM career, it will be statistically much more harder for me to get a job with my qualifications.
	There's actually more women in STEM than there are men.
	That is not true.
	So define STEM.
	Define STEM.
	Like which job?
	So, well, okay, I have some notes here.
	In America?
	Yes, here in the U.S.
	Okay, so science, technology, engineering, maths.
	So what the feminists like to do is they like to exclude certain STEM fields where women are actually overrepresented than men in order to like further try to gain no, in order to further try to gain affirmative action.
	Okay, so I've got some notes here.
	I'll read it.
	Medicine and dentistry, subjects allied to medicine, biological sciences, veterinary science, agriculture, and related subjects, physical science, mathematical sciences.
	Those are major jobs.
	Looks like computer science, engineering, technologies, and architecture.
	Those aren't jobs.
	That's the official definition of STEM.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So, but when women say STEM, they don't acknowledge all those things.
	When I study that.
	For instance, nursing, right?
	I was going to say that.
	Yeah, nursing is probably very much overwhelmed by women.
	I guess that would be classified under STEM if we're including it.
	It is dramatic.
	But that's like, but when you learn, like STEM as a whole, it's definitely male-dominated.
	STEM as a whole.
	Okay, can you tell me where you're getting that statistic from?
	You're including medical, as a careers, like if they have over six figures, if it's software engineers, if it's data scientists.
	I'm generally curious.
	They look at physical science, mathematics, engineering and technology, and computing, and they think that's the extent of STEM.
	But if you start removing like biological sciences, nursing, et cetera, veterinary science, agriculture, any subjects allied to medicine, then women are actually overrepresented.
	There's more women in the system.
	I want to know what study you're getting this from.
	Please just tell me what source.
	Are these assistant jobs as well?
	Yes, they would be like if you're hanging out there's assistant.
	I'm not even doubting.
	I want to.
	I'm going to have a doctor for like 10 female assistants.
	Of course it's going to be female dominated.
	Oh, of course it's going to be female dominated if you count all the assistants.
	There's going to be one doctor for like 10 nurses and assistants, but it doesn't mean that they make more or that they actually graduated from those fields.
	You can be a dental assistant.
	Yes.
	For every dentist, there's dental assistants that didn't actually graduate from college, but they're also counted in STEM as a job.
	But if you just look at like income, people who make over six figures in a STEM field, like how many people are women and men?
	I think that's a more fair comparison.
	Because if you're an assistant, it doesn't really matter.
	Like I can get an assistant job in like any field right now, and I can still be counted.
	This is like you want to focus on, it's the apex fallacy.
	You want to focus on the top positions.
	Yeah, because that's what you need to do.
	But that's not equality.
	You don't hear feminists arguing, oh, we need 50% of women to be bricklayers.
	We need 50% of women to work on oil rigs.
	I think the argument work, like workplace deaths, there's a gap.
	There's a workplace death gap.
	93% of, it's 91 or 93% of workplace deaths are men.
	I think.
	Should we equalize that?
	Perhaps men, one of the reasons men get paid more than women is because they're more likely to do dangerous work.
	They're more likely to work outside.
	If there's some major fucking power outage in the middle of the winter and below zero, below freezing.
	And I admire men for a while.
	I argue that he's a fucking AM.
	No, I agree with that.
	He's working on the lawyer's mind.
	Women shouldn't be in the office.
	OK, this is, no, OK.
	Sorry, this is such a bad argument because when it comes to jobs that are making the most amount of money to begin with, with your logic or whatever, what you're saying, it's actually like white-collar jobs, nice CEO positions.
	But regardless of that, putting that aside, I really want to.
	You can only have feminism when there's cushy, air-conditioned jobs.
	No!
	No, no.
	You don't hear feminists fighting for these dangerous jobs.
	First of all, Blue collar work.
	Hey, no, you zip it, you look at it, and then I go.
	Okay, thank you, Pixie.
	Okay, yo, y'all, feminists just want to fight for the cushy, high-paying, air-conditioned office jobs.
	You don't want to do the dirty, dangerous work that men are doing that happen to be high-paid.
	And you think that because all the men you surround with yourself around say the same exact thing about feminism, but there are actually feminist movements within this field that if you did three seconds of research, you'll see.
	It's no, just say, yeah, you can say, no, no, no, but guess what?
	I'm a feminist.
	I'm actually part of these movements.
	I actually look at them.
	You literally went to STEM, which is a yeah, because STEM is one of the biggest disparities where, you know, theoretically speaking, there shouldn't be.
	That's why.
	That's why I went to STEM.
	Okay.
	What do you mean?
	There's not a disparity.
	And actually, there's a disparity.
	But do you acknowledge that there's a disparity in college enrollment?
	Oh, yeah.
	There's more women in college.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So how come does it take a woman to have like, I guess, like 1.5 more of an educational level than men to get the same paying job?
	Basically, a woman has to go get her undergraduate degree and masters to get the same level of job that a guy just has to get his undergraduate degree.
	Erroneous.
	Yeah, you have to say erroneous because you can't respond to me.
	Okay, so no, I can respond to you.
	I can respond.
	I can respond to you.
	Okay, respond.
	Throw the popcorn back.
	STEM!
	You just.
	I love this savage, Pixie.
	This is with popularity.
	You didn't even address my argument about how men are underrepresented when it comes to attaining college degrees.
	Yeah, no, I said I actually proves the point of like, hey, guess what?
	There's a disparity where it shouldn't be because men need less education to get the same job that a woman has.
	They go to the same state.
	Yeah, a woman needs to get an undergraduate degree and masters to basically get the same level paying job as a man who got it.
	That's fake.
	That's not.
	You can search it up right now.
	That's fake news.
	It's not.
	Go search it.
	I hate the fact that you have a computer and you can literally Google what I'm saying and you just won't.
	You're saying a woman needs to get a master's degree to earn the same as a guy who hasn't.
	I said on like basically the way that these numbers are coming out is that a woman needs like more education to get the same level paying as a guy who has less.
	Can I address this though?
	Because when it comes, there's a lot of studies that confirm that when it comes to applying for jobs, women will look at a job description and let's say there's 10 bullet points.
	If they meet like nine of the 10 bullet points or eight of the 10, and they're like, ooh, but I didn't meet the last two.
	Yeah.
	Who says I have my master's or you need a master's and I only have a bachelor's?
	They're not even going to apply.
	Whereas men, like, let's say they only meet like three or four, they're going to apply.
	Apply.
	Yeah, association.
	Association.
	Men have more.
	If you're saying absolutely, that's why men are more likely to have the same jobs as bachelors than as women with masters because they're flipping applying.
	They're putting themselves out there way more because they can take, they experience rejection and significantly more than women do, which is why they can.
	But that's why there's women who are still high levels in those different careers because there's women who are able to exemplify the personality characteristics to be able to achieve that same level.
	Otherwise, there wouldn't be any women, right?
	If it was really that oppressive.
	But no, the women who are able to exude and exemplify those characteristics that are necessary to actually get on top, they're still successful.
	They're still in those positions.
	So it's more nurture.
	Well, that's the other thing.
	Sometimes, absolutely.
	And again, but that's the exception to the rule.
	I still believe it's the exception to the rule.
	We can make more norm than outliers, though, in the current day.
	But if you look at it 50 years ago, yeah, it's like more nature, you would argue.
	Well, I would say that when it comes to the point that you brought up, Lauren, that's true.
	That's definitely one of the contributing factors.
	But then that goes back to like socialization and like the, and maybe you disagree with me, oppression that comes from like brutal, unfair socialization.
	So the fact that like women are always taught to be risk adverse, even financially risk adverse, risk adverse, risk adverse.
	Oh no, you should just be doing everything.
	Play it safe.
	Women are taught that or that's just the natural order of things.
	I think women are definitely taught that.
	I'm definitely taught because boys will be boys.
	That's the thing.
	If you ever meet a woman who wasn't socialized, biologically more risk tolerant, risk tolerance.
	No, men are taught.
	They're not allowed to be.
	Yeah.
	Like boys will be boys.
	Like, why are you doing that?
	Like, women are taught to be more nurturing from the get-go.
	We get bought like Barbies.
	I don't think it's about being taught.
	I just think that's just the natural order of things.
	If that was the natural.
	Men are more likely to be risk takers.
	That's definitely not true.
	I feel it.
	Well, not just I think.
	I know.
	If you ever meet a man who is like, oh, it's okay to be aggressive.
	You know, that's just a boy being a boy.
	Guess what?
	They're going to show aggressive patterns in the future versus kids that are taught to like emotionally regulate better.
	They tend to have like better long-term outcomes when it comes to emotional regularity.
	This idea that men are just naturally like more like, you know, like they like the risk more.
	They like to be a violent more.
	They like to be aggressive more.
	Well, they're in less aggressive societies overall.
	Like in Japan, there's not as much like violence.
	Same in China.
	There's like no violence.
	Like if I walk down the street at 3 a.m., no one's going to follow me.
	But isn't it the case on the if you look at the average temperamentally, men and women are actually fairly close.
	But when you start looking at the extremes, you have men that tend to dominate at the extremes.
	I thought we were talking about like society in general though.
	Wait, what?
	Like are we not talking about society in general?
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah, when it comes to risk.
	Men are more likely to, for example, I'm pretty sure men are more likely to be entrepreneurs.
	They're more likely to be business owners, for example.
	That typically isn't that important.
	But menu get away with it.
	Also work jobs that are more like physically demanding that have higher level of risk involved as well.
	I agree with that.
	And then women work for nurturing jobs.
	When it comes to like coding, anyone can sit in front of a computer screen and read code.
	That's why the wage job is closing for those jobs.
	Yeah.
	And it just seems that in a lot of these things where it's like men are more likely to do these things.
	Well, guess what?
	Men are more likely to be raised that it's okay taking risk, that they don't have to constantly be aware and like scared of their surroundings.
	So you're saying that it's like a chicken or egg situation.
	You're saying that because of the way we've been programmed, this is the way society is versus us saying that this is the way society is.
	Therefore, we have created structures that are revolved around human nature and our natural proclivity.
	What she says maybe made sense 30, 40, 50 years ago, but now we have girl power.
	Be a boss, babe.
	So you're talking about the necessity of feminism back when we literally couldn't even vote, when we couldn't own property, all of these different things, versus today when we have equality of opportunity.
	But we do, and the equality of it doesn't determine whether or not we have the same opportunity.
	But it's like our parents couldn't even own property until like the 70s.
	So I think like wealth disparity-wise, like women.
	Wait, why couldn't your parents own property until the 70s?
	No, women, women, women just solely on their own without being married.
	They actually couldn't.
	They just couldn't be married.
	Right, exactly.
	Like you said.
	I feel like this is a very important thing.
	It wasn't the 70s.
	Wasn't it like the 20s?
	No.
	I mean, there were these credit cards.
	It was such a feminist talk.
	Like, oh, the way I was raised, like, I'm just a slave.
	I'm beholden.
	When did we say there's okay?
	Let me finish.
	Oh, you know, because I was raised this way, I'm just not going to be, I'm not going to be a risk taker.
	You're not beholden to the way you were raised.
	Take some accountability.
	Women have agency.
	You can move in the world in the West however you damn well please.
	Take accountability.
	Yeah, I'm sorry about the dance.
	I think nobody's saying that women can't take accountability.
	What they're saying is that obviously, just like every other fucking human being in the world, the way that you're raised affects your actions.
	Sorry to tell you that you're not like this special little snowflake that is immune to environmental characteristics.
	Right.
	Brian, I think you're a special little snowflake.
	Thank you very much.
	I'd love to see you fly it up like this, by the way.
	It's so exciting.
	I still just, you haven't really made a convincing argument for the ways in which you don't have rights.
	I just like to see her angry.
	That's great.
	Here, let me ask you a question.
	Do you think, I'm a male, do you think I'm privileged because I'm a male?
	I think there's certain ways that you're privileged and certain ways that you're oppressed.
	Because I'm a male?
	Yeah, I think men definitely have some ways that they're oppressed.
	Do you think male privilege is superior to female privilege?
	Maybe superior is not the right word.
	Is provides more privilege than female privilege.
	White male.
	I don't know.
	White male.
	I will say that.
	I'm not sure how you would quantify.
	White heterosexual men.
	Because it's ruining society.
	If a society is built by white men, then yeah, the rules are to your favor, of course.
	A society was built by white men.
	Here in America, yeah.
	If you're in China, you're not going to have as much privileges, though.
	I mean, but times are changing, hopefully.
	I think you can beat up any of us at this table.
	Hodert, if the wage gap did exist and women are getting paid less, why wouldn't companies just hire exclusively women since it would be more cost effective?
	Because they're seen as less effective.
	It's like, why would you, if you had two employees, one costed a little bit more, but you think they're doing A-plus work versus an employee, you could pay them less, but they're doing like C work.
	Who are you going to hire them?
	So they're saying that women do C-level work.
	They assume that women are doing C-level work.
	That's a problem.
	It's just in their perception.
	It has nothing to do with their results.
	A lot of times you have.
	Oh, just look at the resume.
	They do hire way more women.
	But that doesn't even work when you talk about long companies that have had many, many years of practice with DEI because that doesn't just include first hires.
	That includes all of the people who work.
	And that's why the wage gap is closing because people are realizing that women can be just as capable, but slowly.
	But the CEOs are all like boomers, you know, they're still like 60 years old.
	No, they're literally financially incentivized to hire men.
	Yeah, and that's why it is slowly closing because before.
	Also, not every company is ESG.
	Like there's tons of companies.
	Literally every company is so not true.
	We can search the statistics about how to do that.
	Let me come back to the pressure.
	Let me come back to what we're talking about.
	Okay, so let's talk about male privilege, right?
	So do you think male privilege?
	I'd rather talk about male oppression.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay, but do you think male privilege provides more privilege than female privilege?
	It depends on what context or area you're talking about, right?
	In general, like just there's nothing.
	I hate when people are like in general.
	Like there is no, like that.
	I'm sorry.
	World is not black and white.
	It's not simple.
	You have to look at things in certain contexts.
	So I think necessarily.
	Well, we'll agree to disagree on this.
	Okay, so systematic oppression is not a thing.
	Do we not believe that?
	I think males are systematically oppressed in this country, but I don't think women are.
	I'm denying that in colour.
	If one of us tries to jump you, you can beat us up.
	Hold on.
	That is a privilege.
	Going way back.
	Wait, that's not a privilege.
	That's just a biological reason.
	But that's a privilege.
	The biological reality is a privilege, right?
	That you can do that.
	How are you defining privilege?
	Yeah.
	Privilege if they were able to use that to like win a situation, but if you're looking at somebody, though, then that's not a privilege.
	But you can come at me and I will be defeated.
	A privilege implies like any of us.
	Yeah.
	No, I'm saying like if you chose to be violent, then you can be majority of women.
	So that is a privilege, just like physically.
	W's in the chat for Flames.
	That's just biological, physical stuff.
	But I don't know if I don't know if I see that as a privilege either.
	Really, if you can physically take over if someone broke into your house, like as women, if I live in a private sector, I think that's just a reality.
	So is that not a privilege?
	I think when we're talking about privilege, we're talking about things that are either bestowed to us or that like a right bestowed to us by the government or society like a societal-based thing.
	I think it's a societal-based thing that's granted to you that you can absolutely choose to beat up any woman and they cannot defeat you.
	No, that's just biologically.
	And also he would be prosecuted.
	Like the societal result would be his prosecution.
	Yeah, but if I chose to do that, I can't beat you up.
	Because it has nothing to do with society or government role.
	Well, it has to do with biology.
	Okay, so it's only systemic and it's only government.
	So biological privileges don't count.
	Well, do you want it when you say the word privilege?
	Because when it comes to the word privilege, you're implying something that you want to get rid of.
	Like we don't want some people to be privileged and other people to be not privileged.
	And so when you're talking about like, oh, he's more privileged because he's biologically bigger, that's not something that we could like strive as a society.
	So do you believe in like privy privilege?
	That's why are we striving as a society to get rid of pretty people then?
	No, no, no, it's not getting yes.
	Yes.
	No, but I think yes, bitch.
	No, I don't think there are certain privileges that are biological.
	And I don't know why we discount those, but then only count the ones that are so.
	Because I think pretty privilege is bullshit.
	And honestly, like, I'm like, I mean, to a degree, for sure, you can get ahead.
	But I honestly, personally, there's people who've told me I'm only good at high-ticket silos because of how I look.
	And I'm like, well, actually, I don't know.
	Well, do you guys count?
	I'm like, well, actually, I didn't have a camera on the whole time.
	It's only via phone.
	They're like, oh, well, it's because of your accent.
	And people always do whatever they can to discredit your actual value based off the attack.
	I agree with what your guys are about.
	I do think it's so exciting.
	I think it's just how attractive they are.
	But I do think that if you're like a really attractive person, whether you're a man or a woman, you're going to be able to maneuver through life a little easier.
	Yeah, but that's why we also want to have shit.
	So are they saying, do men have privilege based off the fact that if a woman came at you?
	Like, no, that's not privilege.
	It's a biological fact and it's a reality.
	I think that those things are very biological facts are not privileges.
	If we discount, let's change the wording to advantage.
	Are men advantaged when it comes to physical strength because of biology?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Is it a I think though when we're thinking of privilege, we're thinking like because, for example, pretty privilege, it's not just the fact that you're physically attractive, but the benefits that that's going to reap, the benefits that you're going to be able to reap in the workplace, in romantic relationships, how people are going to treat you.
	So it's like an external thing.
	And I guess.
	So you have more privilege than someone who is like 5'3, right?
	Do you think that's different to what she's talking about, the so-called male privilege?
	I think it's the same.
	They're biological facts, both of them.
	How are they distinct?
	What do you mean?
	I'm trying to.
	Hold on.
	I'm trying to.
	Yeah, he's doing that.
	The hamster wheel is fucking four hours deep.
	What I'm talking about.
	How long have we been?
	Wait, okay.
	So, Piximus Maximus.
	I don't like how you call me that.
	No, it makes me.
	Wait, I have a question.
	It makes me sound like a pick-me.
	It's like a musician.
	So wait.
	Males got more privilege in certain ways.
	Wait, I have a question.
	Okay, so you know the show Handmaid's Tale, right?
	The whole thing is like, wow, they're having their kids taken from them.
	Like, that's the horrible part of the show.
	And now, there's other parts of the show that show women's oppression, which is supposed to be horrific, like the essay and stuff.
	But we all kind of agree as people watching, the most horrific thing is the women getting taken away.
	The one difference between men and women legality in society is women have the right to murder men's babies, but men don't have any right to keep their baby if a woman wants to murder it.
	Yeah, men don't have the right of another person's bodily autonomy.
	Men do not have the right of them.
	Burning their own children.
	Yeah, no, you do not have a right to tell a woman how her internal organs are going to function.
	It's not her internal organ.
	It is literally your blood, your lungs, your everything, this thing.
	It could be a baby eventually alive.
	But it's not like that.
	You do not have a right to tell another person, hey, you have to keep this other human being alive.
	Wait, so you guys will only sleep with someone you would absolutely 100% have a baby with, like, and raise it to 18.
	I would not risk unprotected sex with somebody who I wouldn't.
	Either one in 10 people on the pill get pregnant and you would just keep it.
	I've actually, I've never taken the pill personally.
	So what you're saying is people can take the pill and then they get pregnant is what you're saying.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, that sucks, but personally, from my ideals, I'm very, very prayer life at the end of the day.
	I think that where a lot of the disparity comes from is, okay, where does life start?
	And a lot of people are like, okay, it starts from when the baby's first made.
	Some people are like, no, it's 28 weeks.
	Some people believe it's this or that.
	I think all of us believe it's wrong to take a life.
	I think the disparity is where does that life start?
	And I believe it starts from inception when the arm latches onto the egg and she fucking starts to.
	Let's move away from abortion.
	Pixie, your thoughts on the following statement.
	Women are more privileged than men.
	Again, in certain areas.
	Men are more oppressed than women.
	In certain areas.
	I feel like an apology letter for how we were oppressed for so many years.
	I feel like they tried to get a letter.
	Or like, you know, I think men need a letter for how oppressed men have been.
	Well, they started the country.
	They had to do it to themselves.
	Men oppress other men.
	I found it.
	Immigration or whatever.
	Like, oh look, guys.
	Founded one of the most free countries in the world.
	Quote unquote free.
	It is the most free country.
	We have the highest incarceration rate in the world.
	It also lets people live as a patriot.
	depends on who we're talking about because people are a lot to do because people are so free to do their actions they're more likely to commit egregious crimes like so So in communist China, for instance, as you guys said, you feel pretty safe walking around because people are very, very scared of the government.
	They're not going to be going out screaming, Kim Jong-un sucks dick.
	Like you can't even do that.
	That's Korean.
	That's North Korea, bro.
	Or sorry, Xi Ji Ping.
	Xi Ji Ping sucks dick.
	Yeah, I can't go out in China and Ciannemon Square and like start doing that.
	You saw Album with the Tanks from the last guy.
	Okay, we have more, for example, like this place got shot up my second year of college.
	I know, with What's His Fate?
	Sally Rogers, yeah.
	We have, in the U.S., we have freedom of speech, which a lot of other countries don't really have.
	It depends, because one of my friends got to keep on getting raided by the FBI because he started Area 51 raid.
	Remember that?
	He literally kept getting raided every time he would tweet.
	It's like, yo, let's do that.
	So like, it's like freedom of speech with an astrophy.
	Well, yeah, you can't like, okay, guys, we're going to like go invade the military base.
	You can't just.
	Yeah, I think that it's a big difference.
	I don't think the FBI tracking him actually does meet the Brandenburg v. Ohio test.
	I think they're constitutionally in the right.
	I think we do need to think about Esquire.
	I think we do need to take into account who has the most freedom like within this country.
	People with the most money have the most freedom.
	Who gets to do whatever they want whenever they want.
	Which is not fish.
	Heterosexual.
	Is that not true?
	I came from bigger sales, so it's not true.
	So you're part black woman, correct?
	What can I do as a white man that you can't do?
	Do you remember?
	Okay, not that.
	Answer the question.
	Answer the question.
	I'm a white man.
	What can I do that you can't?
	Okay, let's say we were in, I don't know, I was a prostitute.
	Can I say that?
	And you were Ed Johnson.
	I don't know where the fuck this is going, but okay.
	No, this is just that.
	Like, as far as sex work, experience, whatever, if anything were to happen.
	right you can be a if like everything in your life if you were a john you need money you can sell yourself i know No, I'm saying very pressed.
	Are you saying?
	If anything were to happen, if an altercation were to happen within between us, who's going to get in trouble?
	It's going to be me every single time.
	Wait, wait.
	Is that the law?
	And that is, you know, it's not.
	No, there's actually, there actually.
	I don't know.
	That might be.
	There's actually pushes to make prostitution legal, but they will criminalize because there's no reason for it to be illegal.
	I mean, forced.
	No, but.
	But you're saying that the woman who's offering her services, she will get in trouble, but the man is aware of the problem.
	It's a mutual agreement.
	It's actually typically the reverse.
	The man.
	No, not John's.
	Johnston Day are you talking about?
	She's not trying to want to.
	They're trying to pass.
	To criminalize the procurer.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, the John.
	Oh, that's new.
	I never knew about that.
	I'm curious.
	What is it?
	I think this is probably highly dependent on the state law.
	Pixie.
	Who is more oppressed?
	Okay, here.
	I'll give you a list on how who's more oppressed in what?
	Men are more oppressed.
	Men are more oppressed emotionally.
	They are not allowed to express their emotions without being looked down upon.
	Women are allowed to.
	Okay, let me ask you a question.
	But you often hear that, because you often hear this talk about, oh, men are the oppressors.
	Women are oppressed.
	It's male privilege.
	Most violence on women are by men.
	Let's tell you this.
	The second, the minutes after birth, who's more oppressed?
	Let's just say the first five minutes.
	Let's say the first 30 minutes of life.
	Who's more oppressed?
	Men or women?
	What are you?
	Boys or girls?
	Everyone?
	Just answer the question.
	Who's on what baby is more oppressed?
	It's very easy.
	It's very easy.
	The first 30 minutes, who's more oppressed?
	I don't fucking, like, because women are born smaller and men drink more milk.
	I need to get to like a baby fight.
	No, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You have to put them up against each other in a baby ring.
	We should do it.
	I'm trying to find out.
	Crack babies.
	Like, we can't, like, it could be a whole ring.
	Pixie.
	Okay.
	Let's say the first three hours, the first day, the first, no, no, no.
	I'm trying, I don't know how quickly after birth this occurs, but who's more oppressed?
	Men or women?
	Okay.
	Boys or girls?
	I do not have.
	Oppression is not.
	That's not how oppression works.
	Okay.
	Like as like five-year-olds, I would say women are more oppressed.
	Okay, okay.
	I'm just talking about immediately upon birth.
	No, well, what?
	Just.
	So anyway, you want to say a question.
	Just get to your point.
	I really don't understand where you're going with this.
	I don't understand how you're going to answer.
	You're ready for a question.
	You're ready for this.
	Oh, oh, I know what you're saying.
	Is that what you're going to say?
	I thought it was.
	Circumcision.
	Yeah.
	Oh, hey, yeah, you could say that's the way that men upon birth, almost every single child in this country has their genitals mutilated.
	That's pretty fucking great.
	It came from Jewish.
	Very high.
	No, no, no, no.
	It's like a custom.
	Yeah, but even secular, even look, let's not.
	But no, in Europe, they don't do it normally.
	In Asia, they don't do it normally.
	Okay, but we're talking.
	In America, yeah.
	Yes, there's certain countries, probably most countries.
	What do we practice?
	We're talking about the United States.
	As a male, if you're born in the United States, upon birth, your genitals are mutilated.
	Yeah, sure.
	Now I know why Brian started his podcast.
	He's upset about his foreskin and he wants it back.
	What the fuck?
	He's mad at all women for this, especially those gosh darn STEM nurses.
	That's why he loves large labias.
	It reminds him of the skin that he's missing it by.
	I'm going to steal the fucking labia.
	I want to wrap that shit around my dick and I can pretend.
	It reminds me of a virus game.
	You're lost foreskin.
	He's whole again.
	I can pretend for a brief moment of pleasure that that's just my foreskin.
	That's right.
	You guys got me.
	I didn't get a special, though, that it's a norm for babies to get mutilated.
	Why is it a norm, though?
	Like, where did that be?
	I think that's a bigger crime than any of these grievances that feminists are.
	Your lost foreskin?
	We didn't get to the source of it.
	That's so funny.
	That like a very high percentage of babies.
	It's so funny that you guys laugh about this.
	No, I'm not talking about that.
	I doubt.
	Hold on, no, no, no.
	I'm going to be serious here.
	I doubt that you guys would be laughing if it was the reverse.
	If women were having their fucking clits chopped off.
	Well, it's like in Africa they do that.
	If we got our lips chopped off, we will be less discriminated against in porn and stuff.
	Because men also.
	I exclusively watch that shit.
	But you know, like, there are people who exclusively watch uncircumcised people, but then the porn industry is like very, hey, circumcised dicks.
	And these are small.
	I would argue that men.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	I would argue that men getting circumcised in the U.S. is a bigger grievance than any grievance that feminists have been talking about for the past ever.
	Oh, really?
	The right to vote.
	Yes, getting circumcised, getting circumcised is worse.
	The right to not be a second-class citizen.
	Yes, having your genitals.
	That's not seen as poverty.
	I would argue that getting your genitals mutilated is probably a big deal.
	That should be the best choice.
	You must have grown up with dudes in America whose parents didn't do that.
	And that must have been a super self-conscious thing for them.
	Like when they were in the locker room dating girls.
	Most men, I think, in the U.S. are circumcised.
	Exactly.
	So if they don't get it, they tend to be pretty self-conscious about it.
	They tend to discriminate against.
	Yeah, they tend to be scared to show women it.
	They like don't want to show it in the locker rooms.
	It's like, yeah, so whereas I don't know any time and period where like some women have the right to vote and other ones like who didn't have the right to vote or sorry, where the ones who have the right to vote are like, man, I'm jealous of the women who don't have the right to vote.
	Yeah, just to everyone always.
	Here's a bigger grievance.
	Draft.
	Military conscription.
	That's a bigger grievance than all of women's collective grievances combined.
	No, I don't necessarily, I think it goes back to the right to vote.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	You're literally right to do that.
	You're literally complaining about men.
	Men, oh, oh, no, men are, by the way, which I think is funny.
	You're delusional, Pixie.
	Okay, let me finish my sentence.
	Yeah.
	So you can be like, oh, no, like men being drafted is like horrible, et cetera, et cetera.
	Men who were in power decided for themselves, oh, we should draft other men.
	Well, whatever, whatever.
	They have the right to vote.
	There's a chance to change that.
	Well, women don't even have, or at least if you're talking about any period in time, all periods in time or whatever, women didn't have the right to vote, right?
	So women, if you theoretically had a society where the men decided we're going to draft women only, guess what?
	If women can't vote, they can't even find that on themselves.
	This argument is actually working against you because women, when they, so first of all, when men originally had the right to vote, that was when the draft first started, it was linked to men who had the right to vote.
	And then when women gained the right to vote, they separated the distinction between voters and those who are drafted.
	So now you only have to sign up for the draft if you're a man who is who wants to draft.
	No, no, no, but you misunderstand what I'm saying.
	Hold on, let me just come in really quick.
	Women, what Lauren is saying is women were able to secure the right to vote without the corresponding responsibility that men had to undertake by being subject to military conscription.
	So you were able to get privilege without the corresponding responsibility.
	No, no, no, wait, wait, wait.
	You're misunderstanding what I'm trying to say.
	What are you saying?
	You're saying that the draft is by far the worst form of oppression that a person can possibly have ever been.
	Military conscription.
	And I'm saying that at least during that time, or at least during the time that men had the right to vote and women didn't, there's a possibility of them deciding to turn that over, change it, et cetera, et cetera.
	Now, if for whatever reason, in that time period, they decided to put that law onto women, that women have to be in the draft and they don't get a right to vote, guess who can change that?
	Not the woman.
	They don't have the right to vote.
	They don't have the right to put their elected representatives.
	They're fucked.
	That's why the right to vote is the most fundamental right that we have.
	Your argument does nothing to rebuttal the fact that military conscription is a far greater grievance than any other grievance.
	Why any village, like if you were to have one man and like a hundred women, if all the men died, like they could still repopulate the village.
	I'm not gonna lie.
	Yeah, so exactly.
	Men agree with that.
	So men aren't gonna send their women to die.
	Like men aren't gonna like overtake a village and just like kill the women either.
	They're probably gonna take them back.
	Like it's like, okay, so why would you send your women to war when your country cannot repopulate without the woman?
	Yes, there are tactical and logical reasons why men are more likely to be recruited to be soldiers because they're more, they make better soldiers.
	However.
	Because of the physical advantages.
	However, yeah, there's like physical and strategic advantages to keeping the women at home.
	However, when it comes to voting, I get what you're saying, that like voting is the most important because that controls the society and who's required to go to war.
	And I understand that.
	However, with it needs to be tied to the act of potentially going to war because if women have the power to vote, which we do, but that they're not tied to the potential issue of going to war, potential issue of being drafted, then we can make silly and careless decisions with our voting, which can lead to wartime, which only negatively impacts men who will be required to literally die for our silly.
	And that's on the assumption we actually don't care about the men in society, which a lot of people do care about.
	They care, but sometimes they think that oftentimes people make bad decisions under good intentions, right?
	And so that's what I'm saying.
	Men do that as well.
	Look at how Obama got elected.
	Wait, the idea that this is only a thing that women do or whatever, I don't think is very fair.
	Men also make silly decisions.
	Now you're saying, oh, they're tied to the consequence.
	Not necessarily.
	They're tied to the consequence of what the majority believes, including majority of men.
	Either way, I don't think anybody should be drafted.
	I think the policy, and literally the way that we get into war, is a result of what legislators decide, right?
	Whether Congress decides like we're going to go to war with this country or not.
	So I think that the only way that Congress should be able to do that is if they're for sure as hell certain that everybody wants to go to war.
	Otherwise, I don't think the draft should be a thing.
	Basically, we need the draft, though.
	If you don't think that your cause is strong enough to have people volunteer, to have the people in your country put the line, like their lives on the line, your country should not be going to war.
	Okay.
	Okay, but in a self-defense situation, let's say your country is being invaded.
	Yeah, chances are, and I truly believe this, and you can look at Ukraine and you can look at other countries that had their sovereignty in jeopardy.
	People will step up to the plate when, yes, Ukraine was drafted.
	In fact, a lot of people were trying to flee Ukraine and it became an issue with the trans people because women exactly.
	And then some people who thought that they were women, but it had penises, they were not allowed to intervene with transitions.
	So in Ukraine, I do believe it.
	Yeah, I don't think that you really looked into this.
	In Ukraine, when the war broke out, men between the ages of 18 to 60 were not allowed, like could not leave the country.
	Yeah, and I, okay, I think that's messed up.
	And they were.
	I don't think, what is it?
	I think that when it comes to a country, if their legislator decides to go to war, they better be certain as hell that the people within their country want to fight.
	But not even all men.
	But men, imagine if you were literally left to the whims of that and it's like, oh, everyone who wants to fight, very fight.
	How stable would that society feel?
	Oh, only the people who volunteer.
	Most of our military is based on volunteer basis.
	It's not based on a draft basis.
	Wait, no, but that literally illustrates the fact that, like, hey, it is possible to have a military on volunteer basis, literally fighting wars in other countries.
	We currently have it.
	In a world war, in something that was really that severe and dramatic.
	Well, I mean, we've had world wars before and we did have drafts, but we also had a shit ton of people volunteering.
	I mean, like, if we were being invaded by another country, they were coming, Russia trying to coming at us with full force.
	Would we really be saying, I just hope all the people who really go and fight?
	No, people would literally full force of the country to be protecting us.
	Look at what happened after like Pearl Harbor.
	You had a shit ton of people suddenly be okay with war, wanting to go to war, like volunteering for war.
	This idea that like, oh, everyone's going to suddenly cower away when their lives are threatened and on the line.
	I think that's the loser.
	Pixie, what is the strongest, like, do you know which the strongest army for its size?
	Like, in terms of the United States?
	It would probably be the Israeli army.
	And it's the nuclear weapons and everything.
	For their side, their tiny country, and they have like they fought seven-day war, they fought off all of the countries surrounding them by themselves as a brand new country.
	And the only way that their military works is every single person in their country, man and women, are forced to serve in the military for at least two years in the IDF.
	And so you're saying that that would provide for a weaker military, but just like all evidence.
	What do you mean?
	I'm talking about the United States.
	She's pro-draft.
	No, I'm the opposite.
	I'm talking about women.
	For women.
	So World War II.
	I'm looking forward to it.
	Yeah, people got drafted in World War II.
	That's not a surprise.
	But you were saying you were acting as if the vast majority of people just went in.
	No, I'm saying there was a huge surge of like volunteering.
	I don't know about the exact numbers, but right now.
	And there were men who were drafted who did not want to go to war, who went to the front lines in Europe or in the Pacific, and they're dead.
	They died.
	18-year-olds.
	Yeah, and I'm saying that's really fucked up.
	I think men and women should both be drafted with modern technology.
	Is it more fucked up than women not having the right to vote?
	Because if you do not have the right to vote, you do not have the right to change or stop or add onto the draft.
	Our society is built on voting.
	Without voting, everything else falls apart.
	Okay, can I ask you a question?
	Would you rather in, let's say, 1917, as a 18-year-old, let's say you're a boy, get drafted, get sent to, let's see, Amiens in France, and go spend three weeks in a trench, you get trench foot, and then the shell implodes your face in, and then you're just dead.
	Or would you just prefer to be back home in fucking Montana?
	on your farm and just not be able to vote and you don't know anything about politics.
	You're acting as if not having the right to vote doesn't change or affect everything in your fucking life.
	That's like freedom, right?
	You argue that, oh, yeah, maybe you can have freedom to roam the streets and have someone stab you, but that's freedom.
	Maybe this is going to sound like I'm a pussy or a coward, but I kind of value living and shit.
	So if I was 18 years old back in 1917, I think I would, as some fucking stupid farm dude who doesn't know anything about the world, hasn't set foot outside my town, would I rather just not be able to vote on issues I don't even really know about or get sent to, let's see, where do I get sent to in World War I?
	No, no, no, well, that's World War II.
	I get sent to Passchendale and I'm in a trench for two months and I have the Spanish flu and then I, let's see, what else?
	You are literally creating a false dichotomy.
	And then I just get shot and I'm dead.
	No, do you think without the right to vote, not only can you get drafted, but you can also face the repercussions of like, hey, guess what?
	Okay, they passed a policy where they say your 18-year-old ass not only gets drafted, but has to have like, I don't know, their balls tortured for a week before saying so.
	No, that's what I'm saying.
	Without the right to vote, you are literally under the thumb of whatever power or authority structure there is in place at the Pixie.
	You have no freedom.
	Pixie, you're trying to say that if you don't have freedom, then you could get drafted as well.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	However, in this scenario, you only can get drafted if you also have the right to vote.
	They're linked together.
	And if you don't have the right to vote, you cannot get drafted.
	They're mutually exclusive in this scenario.
	But the point is, would you rather have the right to vote and be drafted or not have the right to vote and not be drafted?
	Okay, but here's the issue, or here's a million dollar problem.
	You're saying like, oh no, it's guaranteed that you won't be drafted if you don't have the right to vote.
	But by virtue of not having the right to vote, you cannot guarantee not being drafted.
	In America, you can.
	No, because it is up to the people and legislator that literally control the laws whether you get drafted or not.
	Eventually, eventually, yes.
	Eventually, yes.
	But in American history, that was never the case.
	So the only, I understand that what you're saying.
	Eventually down the line, if men had the right to vote and maintained the right to vote and they never gave women any power and then they started writing crazy legislation requiring women to also become drafted, then yes, eventually women could be drafted.
	However, that was never the situation.
	The situation was always logically linking drafting to jump in after Lauren.
	Drafting to voting.
	So because of that, there's never a scenario in which you're going to be drafted and don't have the right to vote.
	So with that being said, would you rather have the right to vote and be drafted or no right to vote and guarantee you will not get drafted?
	Wait, I'm genuinely curious.
	Here, look, let me come in really quick.
	So just to give a little background, this stemmed from me basically asking, which I made a statement about, I think that military conscription throughout history is worse, is a worse grievance than women's grievance of not being able to vote.
	I think that is.
	You said worse than any grievance possible of women's history.
	Well, I mean, I'm also prepared to say, like, worse than, wait, what?
	The statement you said.
	Yes, I said women's collective grievances.
	But I think the ultimate grievance that women often cite is not having the right to vote.
	Oh, yeah, that is.
	Well, you also had problems in the past where it was like legal to abuse your wife to like beat.
	That's just fake news.
	It's never been positively looked upon to be a wife beater throughout.
	It's not positively looked upon on a society, but it's been like a lot of people.
	You had to have at-fault divorces, and it was extremely difficult to prove abuse.
	so you'd have to prove abuse in a court of law to even get the divorce, which was just...
	Okay, well, I don't know in the 1700s the frequency of domestic violence in...
	But, I mean, you have, what is it?
	I don't know.
	There's like history textbooks talking about like how domestic violence specifically.
	I think it was the norm.
	And really, it's not about drafting was also not the norm.
	The majority of people did not get drafted throughout history.
	But when it comes to like domestic violence, domestic abuse, yeah, it was widely popularized that, hey, this is something you actually should do.
	You should hit your wife when she gets out of line or even when she doesn't.
	You can and can, and it's fine.
	One of my dad's favorite lines from like an Irish movie is, here's a fine stick to beat the lovely lady.
	Oh my gosh.
	That's the yikes.
	Okay.
	Comparing military conscription to not having the right to vote.
	Like, I don't see how you arrive at not having the right to vote is worse.
	They just sound like they're both hell because I mean, they both come with like consequences, like not having the right to vote.
	It's not just not having the right to vote.
	You didn't have rights like at all, like as a person, or like women.
	Like they were kind of like a sub-genre.
	Okay, Pixie, do you know when World War II, or excuse me, World War, the dates for World War I?
	I can't remember.
	1914 to 1918.
	So women got the right to vote in 1920, just two years after one of the most brutal, at the time, the most brutal war that had ever been seen, most casualties, most injuries.
	I think if you were 18 years old in the years preceding that, it would be pretty hard for you to argue that women who didn't have the right to vote were worse off than the men that got sent to Europe during World War I and where there was forced military conscription.
	Okay.
	You are literally comparing basically all women did not have this right.
	Yes.
	They were under the subjugation of either their husbands or fathers.
	It was, I'm pretty much.
	Under the subjugation or the protection?
	It's not protection when they can legally beat your ass.
	You're saying this as if wholesale men were just every day.
	No, no, I'm saying the fact that it could be any, that all women were not guaranteed these protections.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I'm saying that if you're a woman and you don't have the right to vote, you don't have the right to change legislation.
	Guess what?
	Like if a man.
	What percentage of men do you think were just frequently beating their wives?
	It doesn't matter about what percentage.
	It matters that you couldn't get justice for it.
	I don't have it, like, it doesn't matter.
	Again, it's not what percentage.
	It's the fact that it could happen and it is seen as normalized and okay if it happens because that's just a dumb lady, you know, second-class citizen, like broad, isn't even smart enough to vote.
	She's not even today.
	Women at the time, I feel like didn't feel like that though.
	When you like some of them, maybe depending on circumstances, but when you look back at a lot of the videos from women as the feminist movement was happening, they're asking them, like, what do you think about all of this?
	And they're like, I don't know about it.
	I don't know about this women's liberation shit.
	Like, this could honestly potentially be bad.
	It could potentially put us in bad situations.
	This could be dangerous.
	I like the freedom to be able to be at home and be a mother and not have to go out there in the workplace.
	I like a lot of those things.
	But you have to choose it.
	It's not freedom if you don't get to choose.
	Feminism is about like you can either choose to be a stay-at-home mom and not go to work, not go to school, and it's fine, or you can choose to be a career woman.
	So I think that's the point to have the freedom to choose versus before, like it's not normal for women to go to college, for example, or to write.
	But that doesn't necessarily equate to them being oppressed.
	And I think that's a big problem: people automatically assume that women at the time were oppressed.
	There's a lot of women who are more than happy doing that.
	And they're not going to be able to do that.
	They didn't want to do that.
	But there's a lot of women now today who, when they want to live that more traditional lifestyle, they are judged by the boss babes of this generation, by the women who are making a lot of these arguments that we're discussing here today, and literally look down on women who are advocating for a more traditional lifestyle.
	I think true feminists really are just for women's choice.
	Like it's for women's freedom.
	Like if you want to be a stay-at-home mom, if that's all you want to be, that's totally fine.
	Just don't judge a woman who is sexually liberated and trying to do their own thing because men can choose to do that too.
	And it's okay.
	I think when it comes to arguments.
	We shouldn't shame women for being promiscuous and having high body counts.
	We're not shaming men as much.
	Yeah, if we're not shaming men, I mean, it depends.
	I feel like we're more so stigmatized for it.
	Yeah, no, women are stigmatized.
	But I think that that is such a cop-out answer, though.
	I feel like at the end of the day, you both still risk SEDs and you both still risk the being a child coming alive out of that coitus.
	So honestly, the whole idea that's like, oh no, it's just different.
	I think it's a cop-out for consequences.
	Evo psych and biological reasons because of paternity uncertainty.
	Yeah, no.
	And I'm saying the consequences are the same.
	And I don't think you should cope with the idea that like, oh no, like you still have these immense responsibilities at the end of the day.
	And if you want to talk about evo-psych, huh?
	Not yet.
	Not yet.
	No, no, it was like just like just the top, just the top of a little bit of columns.
	Oh, and if you want to.
	I'm sure it's not shadow, possibly, because you're fine now.
	It looked different to how it looked a second ago.
	We're fine.
	Okay, what's up?
	Yeah, I was going to say, and if you want to talk about evo-psych, there are strong evolutionary imperatives for a man to stay with a certain woman, to not go like sleep with around multiple because it's harder to guarantee impregnation in that way.
	Guarantee paternity.
	Yeah, guarantee paternity.
	And then on top of that, you know, you still risk SCDs if you sleep around, especially back then.
	So it makes more sense to stay with one woman.
	And then again, the consequence of having a child, even if your physical body is not going through those changes, that responsibility that you still feel obliged to.
	So there are strong evo-psych reasons for men to not sleep around.
	That's not what I was arguing.
	I was saying why men are more why men care more about women's promiscuity.
	Well, you're, I okay, I thought that you were arguing that like it doesn't matter if men are promiscuous or there's biological reasons why it's okay for men to be favorable.
	Well, I feel like going with what you're saying, though, it would be the opposite.
	I feel like what you're saying is a point for what he's making.
	Why we, why men don't like women being promiscuous because they want to guarantee their paternity.
	If the woman is sleeping with multiple men, he cannot guarantee that that's going to be his kid.
	He could be expending time resources.
	No, but here's the thing.
	Our brains don't know the difference.
	And yes, we have our logic and we have our reason, but 95 to 99% of everything we do is subconscious.
	We don't consciously think about it.
	It's based off programming and then a lot of the conditioning in that old part of our brain that is literally still dictating our emotions and decisions to this day.
	So why are we so different in our perspectives if we're both similarly pressured?
	And that's where the nature versus nurture argument comes in.
	So I do agree that nurture does to some degree have some pull.
	It absolutely does.
	But I'm saying on the balance of probability, when you put people into an environment and there is no external influences, I feel like people will still have a natural inclination or drive or proclivity to act within a certain way.
	I think without any societal pressures and norms, if they were just free roaming like in the forest, like we are all like nomads without any sort of social construct, people would care highly about body count.
	I don't, yes, but I think that women would still feel low self-esteem.
	I think they would still suffer depression.
	I feel like they would still suffer, what's the word?
	It's escaping me right now, but they would still feel these things naturally without society's judgments based on them.
	And that's where society's judgments come from.
	We didn't pull this shit out of thin air and decide let's just make our own rules.
	The rules were created out of natural.
	So I would say that the rules of in a capitalistic society is created around capitalism.
	And I would say that socioeconomic, like your degree of happiness is largely determined by income.
	Like there's like a technical like economics of happiness and the scale goes up.
	Like if you're making zero income, you're miserable.
	Here's like the happiness scale.
	But then if you make 70k a year, it's like all the way up here.
	There's a huge difference.
	And then I know it like diminishes.
	It's kind of like an E-curve.
	But when you make over 100K, it doesn't really make much of a difference to your happiness levels, apparently.
	Yeah, it's because it goes like that.
	We need to wrap up here soon, so I do need to move things along.
	let me just get in these chats okay we have oh actually Nick can you pull twitch Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drops the follow, drops the prime sub.
	Thank you guys for all the follows and primes.
	Twitch.tv slash whatever.
	All right, we have hold on.
	We have, let me see.
	I think.
	Sorry that we're just getting to these now, guys.
	Gordon's Fisherman.
	Kathy, can you read this one?
	Kathy, we need the details on your mom asking for Brian.
	Wait, into the mic, please.
	Oh, Kathy, we need the details on your mom asking for Brian.
	Keep your hand up.
	Okay.
	Emmy got a point.
	Western society failed education and failed women with societal expectations.
	Pixie, men and women aren't equal.
	The East treats women better and more naturally.
	Hashtag Passport Bros.
	What are the details on your mom asking for Brian?
	I don't know if I should tell her that.
	Oh.
	We gotta go.
	We gotta go.
	We want to set this up after the show.
	Is that what you're saying?
	All right, eyes wide shut.
	Hey, thank you for the Canadian 50.
	Imagine triple majoring and the result being straight to DVD Joe Dirt.
	Okay.
	Your response, Pixie.
	I don't know how to respond to that.
	You can roast him back.
	Look, he's got some, he's doing two thumbs up.
	I don't know.
	He's kind of awesome.
	I don't know.
	I think it's kind of sad he paid how much money?
	Canadian 50.
	So that's like a dollar American, I think.
	I think it's kind of sad to pay $50 to call someone, Canadian $50 to call someone Joe Dirt.
	That was a good movie.
	I think it might be a compliment.
	I think it's a compliment, bro.
	It's a compliment.
	Bray Lauren, it's probably a compliment.
	Probably a compliment.
	Probably a compliment.
	Okay.
	All right, Conan 19, opinion on a man with a lot of body hair versus zero body hair.
	Ladies, do you prefer body hair or do you prefer a guy with minimal or no body hair?
	Minimal.
	Minimal.
	If it's too much, it gets like kind of gross.
	It gets in the chest hair.
	I want a bear.
	It's okay to have a little bear spine.
	It's just overwhelming.
	Or like the back, I don't know.
	You can't expect me to be.
	I don't like back hair.
	If they look like a bear, I'm out.
	No, I want to be a little bit more.
	Oh, no.
	I see a little something.
	You just imagine.
	Yeah, I like super masculine.
	So just hairy.
	She's so big and hairy.
	Okay.
	Amy.
	Yeah, minimal, I would say.
	Okay, all right.
	Yeah, I want a bunch of soy boys.
	What do you think?
	You want to like kiss?
	Yeah, I want the pain.
	I mean, what if they're like, you know, six saying no gain?
	Okay, we have dragons talent.
	Thank you, man.
	Thank you very much.
	Women could vote before 1920.
	It was just a state issue, not a federal.
	Onhey.
	25 female mayors, hundreds of elected female positions, and even one female U.S. House of Representatives member.
	Before 1920, men were not the only ones who voted for them.
	Also, this whole like that.
	This whole thing about women not having the right to vote, it was a very short period where men wholesale had the right to vote and women didn't.
	For the vast majority of human history, most men couldn't vote.
	Most women couldn't vote.
	So it's like maybe a hundred-year period, even less, that men could en masse vote and then women just couldn't.
	So it's been 100 years now since we can vote.
	So I think it's around equal now.
	Yeah, we're probably chilling.
	Okay, we got Spencer Richmond with just the 50.
	Hey, thank you very much, Spencer.
	Appreciate it.
	Let's see how we do in here.
	I think we're caught up on everything.
	Anyone final thought really quick before we wrap?
	I think that.
	Anybody want to share their body counts?
	I think depression stems from mostly socioeconomic circumstances when you don't have like a stable place to live rather than body count.
	Yeah, because I was going back at what Amy was saying with how a lot of women would feel depression if they were having high body counts.
	But I think that most people are depressed in society in general if they are of lower income level.
	Because there's like the triangle of knees, like the top is like self-actualization, and then the bottom is like food, shelter.
	Your basic necessities being met.
	Yeah, but I think that your mental health complaint, like I feel like there are some people who would be happier making $40,000 per year or being broke who are not putting themselves through that versus women who are making $400,000 per year who are sexualizing themselves or sleeping with men for money.
	I think that the vast majority of 40K earners would be happier than the 400K earners who are whoring themselves out or who are making themselves into a commodity.
	What about like 200K, 400K?
	Like what about like a woman who's 500K who is sleeping around?
	I gotta wrap it up.
	Pixie, last thing.
	What do you think of men?
	What do I think of men?
	Do you dislike men?
	No, I love men.
	Oh, you do?
	Yeah.
	That's why I get sad.
	Like, that's why I say men are oppressed and stuff because I think they are.
	And that's bad.
	Seems like feminists don't really like men.
	No, I love men.
	That's the bad ones, I think.
	Okay.
	All right, guys.
	Last call.
	Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	Thank you to the panel.
	This is a decent panel.
	Oh, okay.
	We got eyes wide shut really quick.
	I'll get that in just a second.
	Could you pull that up?
	It's weird that that one popped up and the rest didn't.
	Yo, thank you, man, for the Canadian 100.
	So now having money to throw around is a negative pixie.
	So which is it?
	I got bags and I'm well above six feet.
	What's it to you besides being too high value for the likes of you?
	I don't know.
	I feel like you're not.
	Did you hear that, Pixie?
	He's too high value for you.
	I feel like this is how I feel like he wants me.
	Like he's like trying to flex.
	Nagging.
	Yeah, that's what it's giving me nagging.
	Wait, Pixie, if he went to streamlabs.com/slash whatever right now and dropped a champagne trigger.
	How much is a champagne?
	$1,000.
	Would you go on a date with him?
	Just please say yes so we can drink champagne.
	Yeah.
	You got to do a quick eyes wide shut on.
	I'm going to do it just for you, Brian.
	Just eyes wide shut.
	You want us to pop some champagne?
	You got three minutes.
	So you'll go on a flight?
	Oh, wait.
	It has to be live filmed.
	I don't feel comfortable going alone to see this dude.
	I'll go with you all.
	I'll have him on the podcast and you come back.
	Okay, okay.
	I feel like.
	Pixie, I think you're super progressive and liberal, but I feel like the type of guy you go for is just like the most intense, conservative, super trad, like Christian, super religious.
	You guys just think that because I get along with all the trad cons or attractive images.
	So, okay.
	Thank you to the panel.
	Let's see.
	We have, oh, thank you to Britt for helping with timestamps.
	Any women who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram.
	We will be live again, what, Tuesday at.
	Oh, yep.
	He's not.
	Okay, he's not going to do that.
	Tuesday at 5 p.m.
	He doesn't.
	It's not that he doesn't want to give me the money.
	It's me.
	He doesn't want to do that.
	It's obviously.
	It's not that he can't.
	He can drop a thousand bucks.
	Do you think he's too?
	Never mind.
	What about anyone else, though?
	He could drop it on anyone else.
	Yeah, you can drop it on.
	Kathy's kind of, sort of single, but not really.
	You're definitely single.
	Pixie's single as fuck.
	You got a relationship.
	Kathy's mom is single.
	Yes, she is.
	Yeah, hey, you could swoop.
	You could swoop and try to get Kathy's mom.
	In Florida.
	Kathy's mom has got it going up.
	She's all on one of the favorite solo.
	Do you have?
	Oh, it looked like you were doing a hand raise, Pixie.
	Do you have something?
	Oh, no.
	I'm chilling.
	I'm just happy.
	Guys, be sure to go subscribe to Pixie's OnlyFans.
	I'm just kidding.
	She doesn't have one, right?
	Is it in the works?
	Is it?
	I mean, I'd have.
	Would you start one?
	Not OnlyFans.
	I have cosplay pictures that I've thought about doing a fans leave for.
	Well, I just, I'm afraid that if I do that, I'm going to get a bunch of people like pressuring me to do nudes all the time.
	And I don't know if I want to do that.
	Word.
	Okay, guys, be sure to tune in Tuesday.
	Amy will be joining us again on Tuesday.
	We have a crazy panel on Tuesday.
	It's going to be insane.
	It's going to be wild.
	So be sure to tune in on Tuesday.
	All right, guys.
	We'll see you next time.
	Good night, guys.
	Oh, my God.
	It's like one drawing.

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