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July 11, 2023 - Whatever Podcast
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Dating Talk #82

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Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and where you're from.
Go ahead.
My name is Burke.
I'm 26 years old.
And I'm from Virginia, but I live in LA now.
And I do OnlyFans a spicy content creator.
Rock and roll.
Hi.
I'm Daria.
I'm 29.
I'm from Iran.
Grew up in the valley, downtown, gay town, whatever.
School for photography, but do music, art, modeling, whatever.
When did you move from Iran?
I was eight.
Eight years old.
Do you speak Farsi, is it?
Yeah, I still do.
You still speak it?
Can we hear a little Farsi or?
Seven o'clock with the beginner.
Of course, yeah, totally.
I agree.
Okay, what about you?
Hi, my name is Mandy.
I'm from the San Fernando Valley, A18.
I'm 23 and a full-time OnlyFans creator.
Okay, welcome.
My name's Aubrey.
I'm 19 from Kansas.
I live in Colorado currently, and I am a door-to-door solicitor, salesperson.
Sorry, age again?
19.
19, okay.
Got it.
What about you?
Hi, my name's Brittany.
I am 26 years old.
I am from Texas, and I'm an OnlyFans model.
All right.
Hi, my name is Taja.
I'm 24 years old.
I'm from New Mexico, and I'm a student pilot.
My name is Nicole.
I'm the panel elder.
I'm 39 years old, and I'm an investor and business owner, originally from California, and still live here.
Sorry, my pen is fucking up properly.
Maddie's getting me a new one.
So you're 20 what?
24.
24 and you're 39, correct?
Thank you, Maddie.
Okay.
24.
Holy shit, this one's busted too.
Okay.
I'll make it work.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Hi, my name is Priya.
I'm 22 years old, and I'm from Sacramento, California.
I co-run a family business.
I'm an athlete and I'm a full-time student at ASU Online.
All right.
Hi, my name is Grace.
I'm 18 years old.
I'm from San Diego, California, and I'm a marketing student at John Paul the Great Catholic University.
My name is Jake, 27, Rattlesnake TV on YouTube, and I'm from Australia.
What part of Australia?
Brisbane.
Brisbane.
That's the East Coast, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Sweet.
All right.
And so we're going to go out on the table one more time.
What is your current relationship status?
Are you single?
You got friends with benefits?
Talking stage, situationship, relationship.
And then also, if you are single, how long have you been single?
And what's your longest relationship?
Go ahead.
Okay, so current relationship status, very single.
And I've been single for about, oh God, I want to say like three years.
And then longest relationship was around, it was like an on and off relationship for like six months.
Okay.
I'm very single as well.
Last relationship, like, maybe two and a half years ago, I was engaged.
What's the difference between single and very single?
Oh, like, I'm not looking to not be single anytime.
You're not looking to not be single?
Anytime soon.
Okay, cool.
Me too.
You know, like, I'm good.
You almost get married, and so it's like I'm going to reel back in like a lot.
Yeah.
I'm single.
Longest relationship was a year, about a year and a half ago was.
Did he break up or did you break up?
Oh, first of all.
What's the question?
What did he do?
What did he do?
Yeah, what did he do?
That was the question.
Okay.
I know what the answer is.
He broke up with me because I caught him cheating.
He broke up with you because you caught him cheating.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Interesting how that works, yeah.
Right, okay.
Were you also cheating?
No, never.
Never?
Yeah, ever.
All right.
Not on my restaurant.
That sounds a little sarcastic.
But now I'm just gonna never, never, never.
Wait, okay, so just to recap, single, single, single.
Okay.
No, those two are very single.
Oh, very, very single.
Yes.
Very different, Brian.
Okay.
Sorry, Burke, what's your age again?
I'm 26.
26, okay.
Very single for the both of you.
You're single.
How long have you guys been single again?
Sorry, I had to get up and fix something.
I've been single for like three years, I think.
Didn't you have a ting last time you were on the show?
I'm like wondering, when was I March?
I think it was March or no.
Shit, when was it?
I'm like trying to think, so it was when I wore my blue wig, and I'm like, I think it was April.
So you had a ting?
January?
What's a ting?
Like a thing with someone, but I like, listen.
So you had a ting, you wore the blue wig, now you have no ting.
Actually, I honestly don't even remember.
Might have been a thing.
I think it was February when you were last on the show.
February.
Speaking of the mic, please.
Oh, I don't even, I don't remember, actually, if who it was, honestly.
Okay, that's fine.
Probably not that important.
Yeah, probably not that important.
Got it.
What about you?
I'm single.
Been single for about two months.
My longest relationship is just over 10 months.
Okay.
I am single.
I'm in a situationship with my ex-boyfriend.
We've probably been on and off for like two years now.
We broke up two years ago.
And my longest relationship was two and a half years.
Is that the current situationship?
No, it was not.
Okay.
I love that story.
Your ex-boyfriend is your current situationship and your manager.
Yeah, it's a great dynamic.
On OF.
Do you make content with him or you do solo content?
You have to go check that out on him.
How much per month?
How much can I help us on that?
How much per month?
15 per month.
Okay.
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So the reason that we broke up, I was still finding a lot out about myself.
You know, went through some crazy stages and we just weren't in tune with each other.
Timing.
Yeah.
Timing for sure.
Heard that one before.
He's also in LA and I'm in Texas.
So it's kind of a long distance thing.
A long distance situationship and he manages your OnlyFans.
Yeah, it's a great dynamic right there.
Good times.
Does he stop managing it when you guys are like, you know how people are on again, off again?
Like if it's an in and off again, does he kind of hands off when it comes to like uploading like nudes and shit?
No, he's pretty professional when it comes to needing to stick to business.
But he does give us our time if I'm like, what the hell are you doing?
And then all right, good times.
Good times.
And I did see in the pre-show information you provided for us, you said you consider yourself traditional, is that correct?
Yes.
Traditional in what sense?
So traditional in the sense that I like to be like the homemaker at home.
So if you I provide as well, but if you provide, I'm going to like, I like to cook and I like to clean and I'll, I don't know, I'm just like a traditional housewife.
You domesticated.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm domesticated.
I definitely fall into that.
She's domesticated.
Okay.
And also when you say traditional, is there a religious component to that or not really?
No, not really.
Okay, got it.
What about you?
I am single.
If you count a six-day committed relationship, then I've been single for four months.
If that doesn't count, it's been a year and a half.
How can you do that?
Wait, hold on.
Can you just repeat that?
So there was a six-day something.
Yes, a committed six-day relationship.
The commitment lasted for six days.
Indeed.
Wow.
Okay.
How did it that?
How?
Just how?
I don't know.
You'd have to ask him.
I think these men are scared.
They're scared?
They're scared.
Well, he committed to it for six days.
On the seventh day, he said.
On the seventh day.
On the seventh day, he pulled the plug.
Yeah, so.
I think good was created in six days, huh?
So besides that.
That's kind of smart, though.
Yeah, besides the six-day thing, it's been you said a year and four months?
A year and a half.
A year and a half.
Yeah.
Just single.
Single.
Yeah.
Single.
Okay.
So you're currently single?
Currently single.
Longest relationship was two and a half years.
Okay.
And you've been single, you said for four months, was it?
Or how long have you been single?
Two months?
Single four months if you count the six-day relationship.
Okay.
So that was four months ago.
That was four months ago.
Okay, gotcha.
But if not, a year and a half.
Okay.
And in our pre-show messages, you said that you only date outside your state and fly out to go on dates.
Every relationship I've been in has been long distance at one point, if not the whole relationship.
Is that correct?
That is correct.
Okay.
So you've never, what's going on locally?
Nothing locally?
I live in a scary place.
What do you mean?
You live in like Kazakhstan.
What's a scary place?
The whole state?
I apologize to our Kazakhstani viewers.
Kazakhstani.
That is not scary.
I'm a fan of Kazakhstan.
I'd be glad to visit.
Wait, it's okay.
What's a scary place?
Are you like in the border, like the border conflict where Ukraine and Russia is currently fighting?
A little bit scary.
You ever heard of breaking bad?
Albuquerque?
Yeah.
Hold on.
Albuquerque is worse than the current Ukraine conflict.
I'd say the dating scene is probably worse in Albuquerque than in Ukraine.
Ukraine's got traditional men at least.
So New Mexico is not good right now.
For dating, it's scary.
Yeah.
How so?
There's not much to do, so got drugs, got alcohol, got a feminine men.
In New Mexico?
Is New Mexico like more liberal or conservative?
Is it a major case?
Well, in the city I'm in, it's pretty liberal.
Albuquerque's blue?
Albuquerque's blue, yeah.
But I do long distance for a multitude of reasons.
I think it helps widen.
When you widen the dating pool, you got better options.
Are you getting flown out by the dudes or are you flying out to see the dudes?
No, I fly out to see them.
Don't you work in like an airline or what's your job again?
Yeah, I fly for free.
I work at an airline.
Are you one of the desk people or are you a flight attendant?
No, I'm a desk person.
You're a ticket agent.
A ticket agent.
You get to fly for free.
I do get to fly for free.
Oh, that's convenient.
I'd be so flattered if someone flew to another state to come and go on a date with you.
But then you find out it was part of their conversation.
Not the only one, apparently.
But then six days later, they abandon you.
What's up?
It's a win-win.
It's a win-win.
It's, yeah, it's really fun.
I recommend it if any of you can do it.
Okay, so have you done any international travel to meet a guy?
Or is it strictly domestic?
International is a bit hard.
I dated in France for five months.
Okay.
Yeah.
How'd you do that?
So how are you meeting these dudes?
Like, are you just swiping in New York and Vegas?
So you're on dating apps, right?
I am, yeah.
And you'll put your location as Vegas or LA or.
Exactly.
Where's your premier number one location you'd like to send it to?
Minneapolis.
Minneapolis.
Huh?
Please collaborate.
Got that premium.
Got that Tinder premium.
Not on Tinder.
Yeah, they got sweet boys over there.
Oh, okay.
Minneapolis.
Is it cold there?
I love the cold.
But also when you start a long-distance relationship first, people get a lot more vulnerable because you're not face-to-face.
And it really moves things in a good direction.
You don't have to go through the physical phase first, so you get to know, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Would you date someone who works for the APD?
Abucooki Police Department.
My two and a half year relationship was with a cop.
Stop.
She said stop.
In your pre-show information, you also said that you used to be a hardcore leftist, atheist, feminist, but you now recently a conservative born-again Christian.
Thank you.
Love to hear it.
Yes.
Okay.
So when you were dating the cop, was this during your hardcore leftist, atheist, feminist phase, or your conservative, born-again Christian phase?
Hardcore leftist, atheist, feminist phase.
How did you reconcile your hardcore leftist, atheist, feminist beliefs with dating a I like to say it can be pretty convincing.
So I think we both got to a point of being pretty moderate, but I've always been a tame leftist.
I mean, isn't that kind of the antithesis of being a hardcore anything?
I mean, you can't, can you be tame, hardcore?
My beliefs were hardcore.
My delivery was sweet and gentle.
So was your upbringing, like, were you brought up Christian or was it?
Liberal Buddhist family.
Okay, interesting.
Okay.
Well, moving on, what about you?
So my longest relationship was two years, and I've been single for a year now.
All right.
My longest relationship was five months.
I'm currently single and have been so for almost a year now.
I'm currently in a relationship, and this is the longest relationship.
It's been a month and a half, so I'm very new.
You got this?
Yes, I'm single.
Not very single, but single.
Tried to slide into General Otega's DMs.
She didn't reply.
Who's DMs?
General Otega.
You know the girl who did the dance, that dance thing?
On Wednesday, she didn't reply.
Who the fuck is that guy?
Okay.
So you said sort of single?
So single, but not very single, because the girls across were very single.
Oh, they're very single.
And when they defined it, they said that they don't want to be in a relationship anytime soon.
So I'm single, but open-minded.
Wait, none of you want to be in a relationship.
Well, she said that, but I was mine.
I don't know.
Listen, if I meet the right person, they're going to spoil me, make me happy.
Down.
Very single seems like cut now.
Agreed, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
We just don't want Rattlesnake TV to misrepresent what you're looking for at the moment.
Okay.
All right.
So the first thing that we're going to react to today is this came out about two days ago.
Jonah Hill.
Are you guys all familiar with the famous actor Jonah Hill?
He was dating a woman two and a half years ago.
They broke up.
I think he's now having a kid with his new, I don't know if it's their married or new girlfriend.
So I don't know if it was spurred on by the fact that he's announced that he's having a child.
I don't know if the girlfriend gave birth.
Any case, ex-girlfriend comes out of the woodwork saying Jonah Hill was emotionally abusive and controlling and manipulative and narcissistic and misogynistic and every buzzword that you can throw at somebody, and there's a bunch of articles on this.
So, if you can pull that up Nick, so this is on TMZ.
Ex-girlfriend posts his.
Can you mouse wheel control?
Scroll up a little?
Yeah, that's fine okay, scroll down.
Blast him as misogynist.
Scroll, scroll down just a tad so we can read this, oh nope nope up up up, nope, now you're covering it.
Scroll down nope, scroll down.
Yep yeah, okay.
Jonah Hill's alleged dirty laundry is getting aired out by an ex who's posting what she claims are a ton of old text from him and painting, painting him as a toxic partner.
Surf instructor Sarah Brady, JH's former flame of about a year from back in 2021, is dragging the new actor on her Instagram account and she's not holding anything back in her repudiation of him as an alleged misogynist narcissist, as she puts it herself.
And scroll down just a bit so we can see.
That's good, right there.
So the the primary one that we're gonna react to is that one on the right.
Can you alt tab over one?
I just want to see what we have pulled up here, or is it control tab?
I forgot.
So this is Jonah Hill.
If you're curious, 39 years old, scroll down just a bit.
And every single like journal or whatever, they're all writing about him.
Glamour scroll down just a tad.
So we've got Vanity FAIR.
Glamour, Huffington POST, People Magazine Washington POST scroll down Entertainment Weekly just keep scrolling, keep scrolling.
Okay, I think that's fine.
Go to the next one really quick.
Yeah, go to the next tab, scroll down.
So Huffington POST yeah, just like pretty much every Vulture Daily MAIL, Independent.
They're all talking about this, this story of Jonah Hill misogynist, narcissist abuser.
So we're gonna actually investigate the text messages and we're gonna get your guys' reaction to this.
Can you go to the next tab?
So this?
These are screenshots direct from her.
So this is just one of the posts she made and she this, she says reviving a pic I took down by request of a misogynist narcissist.
So I guess this is one of the photos that he requested she takes down.
I think this one's fairly tame, but there were definitely some other photos.
Go to the next.
Okay.
So this is a text from Jonah Hill.
She took a screenshot of it and posted on her story.
She says, fuck it.
Plain and simple.
If you need, this is from Jonah.
If you need, surfing with men.
Boundaryless, inappropriate friendships with men to model, to post pictures I guess this is a list.
To post pictures of yourself in a bathing suit, to post sexual pictures.
Friendships with women who are in unstable places and from your wild recent past.
Beyond getting lunch or a coffee or something.
Wait sorry, what?
What happened there why?
Why were we not visible in the window tab?
Or were?
Were we previously in the window tab?
Yeah, we're in the windows every single day.
Uh put, put it.
Put it back into the window tab though please, and you can I mean you can make it bigger.
Uh, there's the other gh5 center down there, the eyeball.
Yeah, cool, thank you, thank you.
So friendships with women who are in unstable places from your wild recent past beyond getting a lunch or coffee or something respectful.
I am not the right partner for you.
If these things bring you to a place of happiness, I support it and there will be no hard feelings.
These are my boundaries for romantic partnership, my boundaries with you based on the ways these actions have hurt our trust.
So there's a bunch of other screenshots, but we're going to just start focusing on this one to start.
So I guess there's a couple questions here, and I'll open it up to you guys.
Do you consider this to be abusive?
Do you consider it to be, is this manipulative controlling, or do you think it's reasonable?
And then also, do you think it should have been shared publicly?
So let's start with you.
Burke, why don't you go ahead?
Okay, so first I'd like to say that I think that it's honestly pretty respectful of him to state what he wants to find in a romantic partner.
And if she is not doing those things, like there are so many people in this world that he can find that would respect that.
And I think that it's very like, I love how he said like the boundaries and stuff instead of going off on her or anything like that.
Like I think that that's like I think that's great.
Yeah, I think that that's a very mature and adult thing to do.
Communicate your boundaries.
Yeah.
Well, A, like definitely, I don't think that should have been like shared publicly.
Like personal like tips or like whatever that should be kept to yourself.
And if you get bothered that people like comment on it, like it was your choice to put it out there.
But aside from that, like, yeah, I do agree, like, at least he said what he wanted.
And like, it wasn't necessarily in like a mean way either.
Yeah, we can pull it back up really quick.
Go to the window tab.
So, I mean, he says, I'm not the right partner for you.
If those things bring you to a place of happiness, I support it, and there will be no hard feelings.
These are my boundaries for a romantic partnership.
So he's saying, like, look, if you want to break up, basically, that's totally fine.
Respect it.
Just this is what I want in a romantic relationship.
I mean, yeah, I feel like he definitely did the best he could in that situation.
Like, regardless of, like, whatever else we don't know about, like, because that could play like a part in her reaction.
But it's still not, like, okay to like put people on blast like that.
Even if you're like separated or something's happened between you guys, it's not other people's business to comment on or know about.
But especially like if no one's forcing you.
Why do you think she did it?
Why do you think she, you know, some people, emotion over logic when like that's what you're doing?
You think maybe it has something to do with the fact that he just had a child and he's happy?
It could be.
It could have sparked up like some old, you know, like whatever issues she had with him while she was with him.
It could have sparked it up and made her think about it again.
But it's still still not okay.
Yeah.
He said it pretty respectfully.
Yeah.
And also let's just, it's okay if you, you know, I suspect that most of us at this table are going to say probably shouldn't have shared it publicly.
But you might actually think, well, maybe he was being a bit controlling or maybe he was, you know, maybe he shouldn't try to restrict what his girlfriend is posting online or, you know, who she's associating with and hanging out with.
So I don't want you to necessarily like just because she perhaps overstepped by sharing it publicly that she might not also be in some ways.
I don't think she would necessarily be wrong for saying, well, hey, I do want to post this stuff.
And then the relationship should end there.
But perhaps a better way to frame this question, and we will continue going around the table, is would you object to a boyfriend or potential boyfriend wanting to restrict you from posting risque photos online, from associating with like single your single female friends who are fucking out partying and doing drugs?
And we don't know all the details, but I mean, it sounded like she was associating with some scoundrels, let's just say.
So I mean, honestly, you can't.
That part is a little bit out of pocket, I'm going to say.
Like, especially if you met me a certain way and you wanted to be in a relationship with me, knowing that that's who I am.
These are my friends.
This is what I do after you try to tell me, like, don't post or don't, but when you first were meeting me, that's what you saw, and that's what you came and got in a relationship with me for.
Like, you can't kind of.
That part's a little too much.
So, but, you know, you have the option.
Like, he doesn't agree with that.
That's fine.
There's plenty of other people that agree with it, but like, that's mine.
I don't see it as like manipulative or like anything like abusive like that.
I could see how people could see it like that because some people don't like being told what to do, especially when it comes to social media, because social media is a big piece of life, I guess, now.
But I mean, as an OnlyFans creator, yeah, it would be kind of hard for someone in a relationship with me to tell me to not post scandalous things online because that's kind of my job.
But, you know, there's just some things like hanging out with men with no boundaries is weird.
You shouldn't do that when you're in a full-committed relationship.
And I'm not sure what else he put up as the rules that Jonah.
We can pull it back up really quick, just to give everyone a little reminder.
So she didn't want him to be surfing with men, boundaryless, inappropriate friendships with men, to model, to post pictures of yourself in a bathing suit, to post sexual pictures, friendships with women who are in unstable places and from your wild, recent past, beyond getting a lunch or coffee or something respectful.
I agree with that.
Well, you're making a little bit of a.
I'm like, what is like something respectable?
Like, can I only get coffee with my friend?
And like, what fucking, excuse me, like, exchange little, like, notes about my recent like escapades, and that's it?
Like, that's all right, bye.
Like, that's it, brunch.
He probably doesn't, he probably doesn't want his girl like going to the club or the bar with her with her single female friends.
Single girls are recruiters.
Yeah, right.
There's a lot of people in LA that are like involved with a lot of like scandalous, dirty stuff doing drugs and just out to like five in the morning every night.
Oh, hold on, just a second.
Davon Malik donated $100.
God forbid a man emotionally manipulate a woman into being a good candidate to be the mother of his kids.
Word, yo, Dayvon, thank you for the TTS, man.
Very much appreciated.
Yeah, I mean, good point.
Dayvonne Mali.
Is that Dayvon?
Okay, anyways, go ahead.
Thank you, man.
But yeah, basically, like, I could see, like, on the way over here, me and Berg were talking about how, like, as a friend, you should be able to point your good friends right or wrong and tell them, and they should be able to take that as perspective.
Do you think that girls tend to do that?
Because I find that a lot of the time when girls have single friends, the single friends tend to be recruiters.
They want you to come join the single train again.
1,000%.
A lot of single girls, they look at their friends and they, no matter if they're in the wrong or the right, you look at your friend as like, okay, you're hurting.
Let's go out and party.
Let's get, you know, let's turn it out.
Do you think that's good advice for a girl in a relationship with a man who has an $11 million house in Malibu?
No, not always.
After a certain age, you gotta like, you kind of just fuck it.
Sorry.
You get hurt.
You gotta pick yourself up and you gotta get your stuff together.
So if one of your friends is in a happy relationship and they have a fight and she's hurting, you'll come and say, let's go party.
Did they disrespect you?
Was it overstepping any boundaries?
No, I'm just saying, is that what you'd say?
No, as long as they weren't disrespecting you, no boundaries are overstepped, fixed that with your relationship, you're happy you're in the relationship.
Wait, wait, so you wouldn't, as the friend, tell them to come out and party with you?
That wouldn't be your advice?
No.
Can I have you tilt your microphone down just a little bit and get a little closer to it?
Perfect.
Good, good, good.
A couple people are saying your mic's a little low.
But why does it matter if you, like, want to go party with your friend?
Like, does that mean directly like, oh, we're going to get a bunch of people?
Put yourself in Jonah Hill's shoes for just a second.
So if your girl goes out and parties in LA with her friends, crazy friends from her recent past, and she's hurting, or whatever it is, I'm not sure what the situation was.
Don't you think that's pretty much a pretty big red flag for Jonah Hill?
That his hurting girlfriend is going to go out and party?
100%.
Yeah.
Because you know that those single friends are in her here, are in her ear, like, ooh, like, it's okay.
You can just kiss that guy or dance with that guy.
Like, I think that's very toxic.
You'll never know.
You'll never know.
And can I ask you guys, just quickly to follow up, what's more unattractive?
A man who sets boundaries?
I think Jonah Hill's a bit of a bitch, if I'm honest, but like a man who sets boundaries or a man who has no boundaries?
What's more attractive?
What's more unattractive?
Most attractive is someone that doesn't have boundaries because you know that he doesn't have boundaries with anybody else, any other women in his life.
Exactly.
You're like a man who tells you what to do.
Let's just continue around the table, give everybody an opportunity to weigh in on this.
What about you?
I don't think he was disrespectful when he said it all.
He stated his boundaries and he's very clear with it.
I think oftentimes women are really quick to throw the word abuse out there.
And maybe like in other areas of their relationship, there was like semi, like there's a whole scale, obviously, of what can be considered abuse.
And that screenshot specifically, though, like he was respectful and he just stated where he was at.
And I mean, if you looked at it, turned the other direction, like and it was her sending the text message, she probably would have a ton of people on her side with it.
But it's kind of double standard sometimes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What about you?
Can you go back to the screenshot?
I'm pretty sure when I read it, considering the job that I have, I'm going to have to post those pictures.
So I'm not going to date anyone that's going to tell me that I can't.
I do respect that that's not what you want, though.
But he stated right there that he's happy for her.
There's no hard feeling.
So he did give her the option.
She doesn't do OnlyFans, though.
She's a surfer.
Well, doesn't she surf in her cute bum photos when she's surfing?
Yeah, I mean, she's taking those pictures for herself.
She feels good in those pictures, so she should be able to post it.
Why does she need to post it then?
She feels so good.
I feel like it comes down to the intent.
I definitely take pictures and I'll save it for myself, but I don't know.
I feel like it is getting validation from other people or most other guys, because girls, you're not really posting for other girls like your body.
It's more so other guys.
You're posting it because your bum looks cute and you're surfing.
Do we all have Instagram?
Everyone has Instagram?
You guys post on Instagram?
Don't you guys?
Oh, you don't post it?
No.
I don't post bikini photos.
How many green flags are there?
Okay, Matt Bikini photos.
Boys are lucky.
But we all post photos just to update our lives with people around us.
Here, we'll come to that once we let everybody answer.
Go ahead.
I pretty much agree with everyone.
I do want to add that Jonah Hill brought this on himself and he was making reckless decisions and picking a partner.
If he saw those photos, that should have been something that was addressed before entering into a relationship with her.
I think all of his boundaries were valid except for she can't surf with other guys.
Because I'm pretty sure she's a professional surfer, so it's like a work thing.
Well, I think it's like intentionally going out, like paddling out.
I surf paddling out with a guy, sitting next to him, talking to him.
I think it's like in the same way if you just like went on a hangout with a male alone, it's kind of a little suspect.
But I mean, so you're saying that because he should have known going in that, well, she was already posting these kind of photos and she was already doing this before they got into a relationship, that it's kind of like, well, you should just accept it now that you're in the relationship.
He should have never gotten into it in the first place if that was an address.
I mean, it's fair, like, for example, some of you guys here do OnlyFans.
It's kind of like if you date a girl knowing up front that she does OnlyFans and then expect her to stop doing OnlyFans, I mean, you could negotiate that, but it's like, it's going to be a pretty tough sell, I think, unless you're prepared to like fully support the girl at her income level, whatever she was making.
But I think what his issue was is I don't think she was like a model.
I don't think she was like making money from posting on Instagram.
I think it was more like more hobbyist.
And so wouldn't it be fair to say like, because I think what originally happened is he saw her like cute, sexy surfing photos.
So you could argue, hey, I mean, this is what you first messaged when you saw me.
Why should I have to take it down?
But couldn't you make the argument that like you have no problem in she was engaging in what he considered single behavior.
But once they started dating, he wanted her to act in a way that he thought was consistent with being in a relationship.
And his thing was, well, okay, you were single, you're posting these kind of revealing photos, fine.
Now that I'm in a relationship with you, though, I want that to stop.
Yeah, I still think it should have been a conversation way sooner, but I commend him for how he handled it.
I don't think he was totally bogus.
Okay, what about you?
What do you want to know specifically?
Well, just, I mean, your reaction.
Do you think you think it's abusive?
Do you think it was manipulative controlling?
Do you think it's okay?
What do you think?
I think when a text message goes out like that, that looks like it was constructed in notes for like hours and hours, the problem started a lot earlier than when it was sent.
My guess is that someone like that probably had difficulty setting boundaries in the first place.
And I think that we're allowed to have our preferences and boundaries and what we want with a partner.
And if we see things, if we see things in their behavior, if I see something in a man's behavior that I don't like, I just step away.
I exit the situation.
I'm not big into behavior control of a man that I'm with.
So that text to me seems like things got really bad.
He was like, final straw, here are the bullet points.
And I'm kind of like, well, why'd you stay so long?
Yeah, I definitely think that that is a conversation that needs to happen sooner in a relationship.
I'm not too sure how long their relationship lasted, but I definitely think that it should have happened soon in a relationship.
All of his boundaries are completely valid, especially being a, for lack of better words, a celebrity of some sorts.
You kind of have to protect your image at some point.
And the people that you date are definitely going to be associated with you.
So yeah.
Yeah.
I totally agree with you guys.
I feel like they should have had that conversation so much sooner.
And over text, it's just kind of weird because you're in a relationship with that person.
So they're like your best friend.
I feel like you shouldn't be hiding all these emotions for so long and like not addressing that in person in a conversation.
It shouldn't have been this bulleted list.
Like that makes no sense if you're actually in a good relationship.
Yeah.
Jonah Hill's also a male feminist as well, just so we know.
So he had zero frame in that relationship.
That was absolutely clear.
He should have said that from the jump.
And the fact that he had to say all those things means that she's already crossed all of those boundaries already.
So it should have happened at the very start.
How would you introduce that earlier on?
Because do you think it's maybe like second date?
It's like, take down these photos.
You think it's maybe like much?
Probably from the start.
He can see who she is.
He can see that she loves surfing.
He can see that she's got a nice cute bum that she posts on Instagram.
So he should have just said it from the jump.
Okay.
Yeah.
Got it.
And what we're going to do, so that wasn't the only thing she posted.
So, Nick, can I have you pull it back up?
And then there's more.
Yeah, go to the next one.
There's a shit ton.
Okay, so then she started posting a bunch of kind of semi-related stuff.
There's something about the quality wheel for domestic violence.
I don't know.
What is she wanting to achieve by posting all of this?
She's a bitter person who's lost a millionaire.
I kind of believe that he's abusive.
Now, if you look at the very top, look how many stories she's posted.
That in itself is a red flag.
Like, even if it's not like, if you're posting that many stories a day, I'm sorry, that's funny.
More red flags.
That's pride.
You're posting memes and shit.
That's where I'm playing.
Fucking 20, 30 memes a day about fucking...
Anyways, next one.
There's a ton.
We're going to go through them all really quickly.
Next one.
Okay, just like she's posting about it.
She says that it was emotional abuse, not physical.
I mean, it's really not abuse, but okay, next.
Not abuse at all.
This is a warning to all girls.
If your partner is talking to you like this, make an exit plan.
Love y'all.
Call me if you need an ear.
So, I mean, this is in reference to the list or whatever.
Exit plan from Jonah Hill.
Yeah.
This is like.
So I don't think she has a clear, like next one.
So keep going.
Next one.
Sort of done with explaining this.
Also, like, one thing I'd just point out is a lot of her, and we'll see this.
She's mostly taking snippets of what he said.
Sometimes you see her responses.
And I don't know.
Anytime you're just excluding your responses, like it'd be interesting to obviously see the full unedited back and forth that they've had.
But let's see the next one.
Okay, there's just more back and forth.
Next one, she posted so much.
I too struggle with mental health, but I do not use it to control people like he did to me.
It's been a year of healing and growth with the help of loved ones and doctors to get back to living my life without guilt, shame, and self-judgment for things as small as surfing in the swimsuit.
Rather, this seems like a very, I don't know what's a rhythmic like soft per like Destroyed because he look even if you even if you're of the opinion that this is controlling behavior,
it does not rise to the level of like abusive, like it might be controlling, but like I feel like before because we don't know the context, so like he stated those things and was like, Oh, like you need to work on these things.
She could have been like, Oh, yes, definitely I will do that.
And then it progressively he started to get more and more frustrated because she was promising that she would change something and she didn't.
This is called this is like her shit testing him, though.
Yeah, yeah, she'll keep pushing the boundaries, pushing the boundaries, pushing the boundaries, and then here we have a good idea.
That's good 55 different Instagram stories.
Sounds like it had something to do with like her upbringing, too.
Because if she had that much like guilt and shame to work through, it's probably and oftentimes people get into relationships that are familiar, and familiar is like family.
So it's like you get into these unhealthy dynamics with similar things you were trauma bond wise.
Yeah, trauma bond.
And so it sounds like there was maybe some deeper-rooted childhood trauma behind some of her, I guess, feeling this way that it was abusive.
I do think like there is a fine line between like abuse in that sense, especially emotional.
Like it's really hard to gauge that because it's very different, obviously, than physical abuse.
But there's more though.
We have some more that we have to react to.
If you want to next one, okay.
More, just next one.
Sharing this publicly now because keeping it to myself was causing more damage to my mental health than sharing it could ever do.
I mean, I find it very interesting when people need to share their personal life, especially like this on the internet.
It seems very attention-seeky and needing to play the victim and get attention.
There's no reason that she should have posted any of this on the internet.
It doesn't help anybody.
And she's pretty delusional if she truly thinks that this is any sort of abuse.
Facts, it's never okay to post this stuff.
So I have no respect for Prince Harry putting his dirty laundry over his family.
And like this, there's no excuse for it.
Especially if you claim that you want privacy and don't want to be in the public eye and then sign multiple contracts to publish your business on the internet.
It's very interesting.
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely a pretty bad look to one to like talk shit, publicly talk poorly about an ex.
I mean, how many like relationships are truly, I mean, some relationships will end amicably, but I mean, there's always some people have arguments, people have disagreements.
I mean, I'm sure like everyone here has some ex that could either you could say maybe something negative about or they could say something negative about you.
Maybe even you yourself reflect back on a past dating experience and you're like, maybe I could have handled this better.
Maybe I shouldn't have said this.
Maybe I should have just moved on.
Whatever.
Whatever it may be.
So, I mean, I think it's just like nobody's perfect.
And to just be publicly airing this shit is, it's so, it's such a, I mean, if you were like actually like physically abused or emotionally abused, then it's inappropriate.
Absolutely.
And it seems very me too-esque.
And not the same.
Not the right place to address this.
No, and yeah, like I said, none of that's going to help anybody else other than getting yourself attention.
Let's pull it back up because there's a shit ton more.
We'll try to blast through them.
Next one, please.
This is what healing looks like.
And I guess she's text.
It's so like self-congratulatory.
Like pat myself on the back.
I'm a victim.
Blah, blah, blah.
Let's see the next one.
Teen Vogue did for me what couples therapy didn't.
My boyfriend, and this is something from Teen Vogue.
My boyfriend says the way I dress at the beach is too revealing.
He says I shouldn't wear bikinis or short shorts.
I don't want to make him feel bad, but I like my style, which I do.
Ditch the boyfriend, keep the bikini.
And hey, look, if that's just you want to dress how you want to dress, if that's just non-negotiable for you, and you're a woman, I think that's fine.
And I think men are justified in having their preferences and boundaries.
It just comes down to a negotiation and a conversation.
Let's bring it back.
Okay.
And he gave her a valid out.
If she wanted it, she could have said, okay, like, those are your boundaries.
I don't agree.
I'm not going to abide by those.
I'm going to do what I want to do.
She could have left.
He said, no hard feelings.
That's totally fine.
I wish you the best.
But she didn't.
I'm curious to know how much longer, because I don't know if they, maybe someone knows from the point that she took the screenshots of that conversation.
I think they stayed together.
I think she obliged him in his requests.
She took the photos down.
So they stayed together, and I think now, years after the fact, she's...
After he's just had a kid.
That's kind of suzzy.
Yeah, it is very interesting that this is happening two years after their relationship ended.
There has to be some sort of incentive.
I get that his girlfriend is pregnant now, but I feel like there has to be some sort of other incentive for her to post these.
So even what she's saying and what other people are saying.
And I don't know if we have the screenshots of this.
She's saying that, well, sometimes you don't realize you were traumatized until years later.
And, you know, sometimes you have to work through to really know that something happened in the past that was wrong.
And maybe that may be the case, but I mean.
But if you have to work through it and post it on social media, go to therapy.
Like, go take it to a therapist.
No, it has to go to Team Vogue.
Yeah, Team Vogue.
Yeah.
Let's pull it back up.
Let's try to get through all of them.
Gaslight much.
Even the person I loved and shared a bed with uses me and can't just be like, yeah, you were super nice.
It hurt so badly, but I'm done apologizing.
I was so lovely to you.
83122.
I'm assuming that's a text message he sent to her.
I think that's sent to her.
Yep, it is.
Next one.
And then some memes.
The right boundaries in the right places don't limit.
They liberate.
Okay, here come the memes that feel good.
Okay, as you heal, you'll stop trying to force people to see you in ways they're unwilling to.
You'll remember more often that choosing yourself is sacred, even if others don't.
Okay, next.
She being our couple.
Okay, so I guess they went to couples therapy.
Red flag.
Okay, next.
Holy, there's so many of these.
Safe word?
It was pineapple.
Okay, next.
Great.
Okay, yeah.
Oh, yeah, this is the one we already saw.
If I'm not the right partner for you, number one boyfriend.
So Jonah, I don't think Jonah Hill was 100% perfect here.
He was sending her like walls of text, which maybe came across.
I mean, definitely a little bit.
Not too much.
A little too much.
A little extra.
You know, sending, like I said, sending these long walls of text.
But I mean, she's being pretty crazy and opportunistic with the victim card.
It's so weird that it's texts, though.
Don't you think?
Like, that is an absolute face-to-face conversation every day as a way to take screenshots, too.
Yeah.
And it seems very contract-like, you know, like the bullet points and all of it.
Yeah, if you're dating, I feel like this is a conversation you could absolutely have in person.
So it is very interesting.
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Priya, you were saying?
You were saying it's contracty.
Yeah, I mean, I feel like that's kind of red flag right there, also, that he didn't have the conversation earlier in the relationship.
It's very interesting.
I'm not too educated on Jonah Hill and his, you know, his beliefs and his career other than his pretty mainstream stuff.
But yeah, it seems like that there.
You know, nobody was perfect in that relationship.
I can say, I think, I could understand why, like, obviously I think it's definitely better to handle things, if not face-to-face, like at least over a phone call.
But I understand, like, if things had gotten as toxic as they did, why maybe it came to text message instead?
I know, like, sometimes.
Any man who is self-respecting would see that situation and be like, I'll talk to you when I see you.
You do it hands-on.
I don't know how you guys could ever respect a man who would send those little quit like.
Very much agree.
It seems very immature.
I guess more so it depends on who initiated over text message, because a lot of the time I think women would be more inclined to do that.
Yeah, and then she just pushes him and he's just, I mean, both in therapy.
That's a red flag that they're in therapy.
Not mine or red flag.
I was already close therapy.
This is like probably the best way he thought or was taught by that therapist to explain himself.
It can't be like, don't take it personally.
Like you're going to therapy too.
Like, don't you kind of get the gist of like how?
I don't know.
I think he definitely should have.
I think he definitely should have taken more of initiative in the beginning of the relationship to state those boundaries.
But I could understand why after it gets to that point where he hadn't had that voice for so long, why he was doing it the way he did.
But I agree he should have kind of taken it from the beginning.
Let's pull it more of, let's see the rest.
I mean, there's a bunch.
We'll just try to blast through them.
Next one.
Oh, sorry.
Shit.
Basically, we don't have to go back, but the previous one, he was being pretty cringe.
Actually, if you can go back one, Nick, you'll have to go here.
I'm going to switch it back here.
And if you can just go out of F11 and do it.
And guys, we have some spicy stuff coming up after this Jonah reaction.
So, wait, why should I go to therapy?
Oh, F11?
Yeah, you're good.
So he is being like, literally just say hello and leave the convo.
I love how your therapist thinks I suck.
I literally am the best boyfriend on earth.
That's pretty fucking cringe.
I'm joking he sounds like Jonah Hill from Superbad.
That's something that I'd expect his super bad character of.
But like, this is the problem with guys who get really rich and famous and they're still dorks is the fact that like, you know, he clearly can't hold that frame and he can't have that conversation because he still thinks that he's fat Jonah Hill from pre-Super Bad, you know?
He lost weight though.
So I mean good for him.
Yeah, but I think he still exists.
Internally, he's still fat Jonah Hill.
Well, he's like super woke.
Yeah.
Actually, there was a vice article up.
Pull it back up.
Next one.
Okay.
I don't know where this is.
I've never seen that.
Okay, there's just more.
Icky to see him how icky to see how I took blame for him.
Okay, I guess, I don't know.
Well, even on that last text that she sent, she's manipulating him by saying, like, I'm not...
I was like skimming it.
It's like, I'm not good enough for you.
And I know, like, well, like, that's her manipulating him.
And also, she left out because she said, I'm sorry I said that.
Like, what did you say?
Right, so she was.
What did you say when you were drunk?
Yeah, she said she's drunk.
So she took the step to say stuff she shouldn't.
And another thing she kept on saying was that, like, oh, it's because I'm socially, like, I'm socially not.
Girls are very socially.
She's got this victim mindset of, like, I'm just the victim.
And, like, then pushing the manipulation back on him.
Absolutely.
If someone ever says, I'm not good enough for you, leave.
They are obviously telling you something that you don't know yet, and obviously they know.
It can be cute from a girl.
If a guy says it, leave, yes.
But it can be cute coming from a girl.
I'm not good enough.
It's kind of cute.
It's just a real red flag.
No, no, no.
If a guy says that, it's a simping thing.
But if a girl says, it's a difference between guys and girls when it comes to simping.
Girls get rewarded for simping.
Guys get broken up with for simping.
It's very different.
If a girl dotes on you and says, you know, oh, like, I'm not good enough for you.
You're so amazing.
That's a great thing.
That's a green flag.
But if I say that to you, it'll be the biggest thing.
So it's like, what's like an angel feed?
Like, you know what I mean?
Yeah, exactly.
Men just want to be respected ultimately.
There's certain things that you girls live for, certain moments.
And the moments we live for is when you come up and just say, I love you.
I could not live without you.
I respect you.
But I feel like if they say that they don't feel like they're good enough for you.
I feel like if they say that they don't feel like they're good enough for you, that means they're struggling with that a little bit on their own.
And so they don't feel good in that relationship.
I don't think it's good.
I think that you should feel like comfortable with your partner, not like you're inferior to them.
No, I think that the girl always has to love the guy a little bit more than the guy loves the girl.
So if she feels like she's kind of chasing him, she feels like he's the absolute best she can get, then she's not going to leave him.
But if she feels like she's above him, then she'll leave his family.
I don't think she should feel above him.
I just don't feel like she should feel like she's lesser than him or like she's not good enough.
I feel like she shouldn't feel like she's not good enough.
Have you ever heard of the term hypergamy?
No, yes.
So women are hypergamous daters, which means that they like to date across an up socioeconomic hierarchy.
Men can date down.
Like I'd be happy to date a girl who works at KFC.
Do you guys get KFC here?
Yes, yeah.
I'd be happy to date a girl that works at KFC.
If I worked at KFC, you guys wouldn't look twice at me.
So women tend to date up.
So we want you to look at...
You guys say that, but I feel like there's a double standard for that, for sure.
What's the double standard?
Like that people, you'll say that you'll date someone that works, like a man that works at KFC, but when you're in that situation, would you really?
No, God, no, you're not really.
Like, would you really?
No one at this table.
Like being honest, like, would you really?
It depends where you are.
Any girls here who would date a fast food worker?
I like to be scared of it.
It depends where you are in life.
Like as a college student, granted you are ETH.
That's not different.
Yeah, absolutely.
Wait, so your KFC worker is studying medicine.
I mean, but let's also do a tier list.
Okay, it's different.
Let's do a tier list of the respective fast food restaurants because not all are, you know, like Chick-fil-A is pretty up there, I'd say.
And then like, McDonald, like, Chick-fil-Ch is pretty shit.
But, like, I feel like Chick-fil-A is more respectful.
Mid-very true.
Or like in and out.
In-and-Now slightly.
Does he own the franchise?
Probably top of the food chain.
Hey, if he owns the franchise.
No, but the fact of the matter is that the generalities don't really make the rule.
If it's Chick-fil-A, it doesn't really matter.
But the fact of the matter is that women tend to date up the socioeconomic hierarchy.
So we want you guys to be looking up at us and saying, oh, my God, you are the best thing I could ever have.
Well, I would agree with that.
I wouldn't stay with a man if I didn't feel that way.
Exactly.
No, I agree with you.
I just don't feel like you should always be in a state where you feel like you don't deserve them.
Because that's just, it just is not a good way to feel.
I think maybe feeling deserved is probably the wrong way to feel.
Yeah, exactly.
There's also a psychological component to it.
In every relationship, there's somebody that loves the other person more than the other.
Yeah.
Deserved isn't quite the right way to put it.
But if you're looking up at them and you feel like they're the best you can get, that's a good thing.
Yeah.
If you just feel like you're really lucky.
I think it's admiration.
Yeah, no, I think they should definitely admire you.
If I'm looking at Margaret, I'm like, oh my God, I'm so lucky to have you.
Yeah, it's just not going to work.
What if they have hobbies outside of KFC?
Like, no.
You answer the question.
Would you date a guy who had worked at KFC with some hobbies or who liked to go rock climbing?
I could be an OnlyFans creator and also work at like fucking Subway, 7-Eleven, fucking Walgreens.
But then those are both careers or Target, all of these places.
In and out, they have insurance.
They have a lot of benefits.
So you're saying that he works at KFC, but he's fucking loaded because he has another thing that he's got going on.
No, Sean.
I think you work in multiple jobs.
You can never make too much money.
That's not a hobby, though.
Are you saying that if you were on a comparable level to the guy, like if you were like making shit money on OnlyFans and you also had a fast food job, then you would date a fast food guy?
A couple bottom feeders.
Okay, if he only worked at KFC and didn't do anything else, if he didn't do anything else besides work at KFC, no.
Sorry.
Yeah, but what Brian's saying is, though, like if you're earning high amounts of money and then you're dating a guy who's earning minimum wage, then you're not going to put up with that.
But if you're just struggling away, posting your booty on OnlyFans and you're only making like $10 a day, then he's like on your level, you know?
Yeah, I wouldn't be doing OnlyFans if that was it.
Speaking of which, we do have a couple girls here at the table who do OnlyFans, and some of you may very well be high earners.
So I'm curious, maybe we can go around the table.
What's I need an exact dollar figure, exactly how much you guys make per year?
Everybody at the table.
Everybody.
Burke Baby.
That's your name, right?
How much do you make on OF?
Or just in general, I guess?
Because maybe you do Bitcoin and shit too.
Honestly, it varies.
Like, as OnlyFans creators, you don't have, like, a certain amount of money that you make each month.
Well, let's just, how much do you make in a year?
Six figures, seven figures?
I don't know.
Do you make seven figures in a year?
No, that's like, that's insane.
There could be like a bad month.
It just depends.
Well, that's why I'm saying a year.
It depends.
It's like owning a store.
You never know how much you can do.
No, but in a year, I mean.
Okay, break it down to like a month, right?
I mean, if you want to break it down to a month, but you could say I made 300K last year.
I made 300K this year.
On a good month, I'd probably say maybe like 5 to 6K.
Okay.
On like an okay month.
Okay.
But you've made more.
You've had a five-figure month, I'm assuming.
So above 10,000?
Like maybe like once or twice.
Okay.
Has any of the girls here who do OF or any of you, anyone else, made over six figures in a month?
Anybody?
Bueller?
Whole?
Who here does OnlyFans?
I believe these three and then her.
I have an OnlyFans 2.
What?
OnlyFans.com slash whatever.
Go sub.
I'm at like five figures each month.
Five figures each month?
Okay.
Okay.
How much do you make on OnlyFans, Brian?
100 a month?
I don't post.
I don't post.
I just have to.
That's also what it depends on.
I have a couple troll photos of Kiki over there, and that's it.
She's posting provocative photos of Kiki.
Are you exploiting her like that?
I am exploiting a leak some text in a few weeks.
The robot is coming for me.
But just curious, how much do the non-OF girls make?
It depends.
Well, you're 19, right?
So are you in school right now?
So I have been going to cosmetology school, but I took, I'm on a leave right now for the summer to make.
Cosmetology school?
Yeah.
Red flag.
No, hair or makeup.
What, what?
Hair?
Well, like hair and nails.
Hair and nails?
Oh, first of all, say.
My mom.
Oh, my God.
Holy shit.
I know it's.
Major red flags.
And it's in Utah, which is like even worse.
Are you Mormon?
You're Mormon.
I grew up Mormon.
Oh, you grew up Manfred?
I'm not any Mormon.
Are you atheist or are you agnostic?
You switch to Buddhism.
That's exactly what to consider.
Like, I'm still Christian, but I do follow teachings of other religions.
Like, my view as far as religious stance goes, like, I'm definitely one of those where I say I'm not religious, but I'm spiritual.
I think when it comes to religion, like, around the world.
Honestly, no, I think it is that there's a lot of truth.
I think it's a lot of lies, a little bit of truth, and it's putting the puzzle pieces together of things.
So I don't necessarily throw myself in a box anymore where I'm out on that stuff.
But yeah, cosmetology school.
But I have a brain.
I use it.
I just didn't want to go to a four-year college.
So I.
But did you want to be a hairdresser?
I honestly don't know at this point.
Like, I at least thought, like, okay, worst case scenario, like, let's say the world goes to shit.
Like, I have a hands-on thing.
Like, everyone's always going to need to get haircuts.
Wait, if the world goes to shit, you're going to be at...
Bro, if the world goes to shit, nobody's going to give a fuck about haircuts.
You know, they just had maximum higher.
Oh, yeah.
If I'm with a girl in a zombie apocalypse, we're both buzzing our hair.
And then I can give you the buzzers.
I can give you a nice fade.
Or at least it looks nice where you're feeling like a little bit more.
We're tossing your makeup.
There is no makeup in the zombie apocalypse.
I know.
But honestly, that's why I don't exactly know if I'm going to actually do anything with that after.
I just thought it's kind of a place to start rather than getting out of high school and being aimless with my direction.
Fall back on.
Yeah, fall back on something.
That's fair.
The hair and nails.
But it's ironic.
In Utah, too, everyone there is very up on their looks and everyone's blonde.
And I definitely was more down-to-earth out there.
I had a hard time, which is why I needed to take a break for a little while from it, too.
Because I'm not super into making sure you always look presentable, but you don't have to be super done up.
And so it's just kind of still navigating what I'm going to end up doing.
Yeah, you got time.
I mean, definitely.
Okay.
You are the airline agent.
How much are you pulling in?
I make a laughable wage.
But you get to fly for free.
But I'm rich in happiness and fulfillment.
That's beautiful.
I think all that matters.
I don't pull a traditional salary because I don't have a traditional job.
I have investments.
I'm not comfortable disclosing my net worth, but I do okay.
But I'll go with a salary of $0 since I'm starting a business and I have made zero.
Okay.
Hi, Peggy's good for you.
You got options.
I'm a full-time student, but have multiple sources of income, so I do well.
I'm working at a stock firm right now, and I'm making $15K a year.
Okay.
So, I mean, just curious, maybe a better question is also to ask: you're the guy who you're eventually going to marry, how much money would you like him to be earning, say, when he turns.
I mean, we have a variety of ages here in this group, but say when he's 30, 35, 40, in that age range, how much would you like your future partner husband to be making?
50K, 75K, 100K?
More?
Here, we'll go around the table really quick.
Your future partner, how much do you think he's going to be earning?
Go ahead.
Or would you want him to earn?
Honestly, I don't necessarily care.
Like, honestly, I don't really care.
Obviously, I don't want to.
Stop the cap.
Stop it.
Stop it.
Let's be honest.
Otherwise, everyone's going to say that.
You date a KFC guy?
Come on.
No, okay.
Well, I was saying that I wouldn't necessarily date that.
I just want someone that has drive in their life and that is able to kind of let me be able to travel with them.
Like we can travel together and like you can't get with the money.
With what money?
What if he's poor?
You say you want to travel with him?
That's going to take money.
It's going to take money.
I don't think it's like a tabloid number.
I just want, I want someone that has like drive and they are, I don't have like a certain number, honestly.
Like I wouldn't, someone, someone could come to me and they would be like, oh, I only make like 40K a year or something.
And like.
That's pretty low.
That is pretty low.
It is pretty low.
Well, I think it's actually, I think 45K is the average, the median average salary for men in the U.S. That's no.
It's low.
It's low in the sense.
I'm not trying to shit on anybody in the chat that makes that much or less.
But living in California, if you want to live in like a major city, you're probably going to have to, you know, if you want a certain lifestyle, if you want to travel, for example, go on vacations, if you want to, you know, afford a certain size house that has bedrooms, do you want kids?
Maybe you don't want kids, so maybe it's.
Sure, honestly.
I haven't met a person, like I'm open to it, but I haven't met a person that I would, I could see like a life.
Like I want to meet someone that I'm like, oh my God, I want to have your babies.
But it would break down like this.
You have to look, okay, well, what city do I want to live in?
The square footage of the house, how many bedrooms do you want?
How many bathrooms?
How many cars do you want to have?
Do you want the kids to have their own separate bedrooms?
Do you want to travel two or three times a year?
There's a bunch of other factors that you have to, you know, and then what kind of house do you want?
You want kind of like a mid-tier, low-tier, or like maybe a bit more luxury.
The cars you have, do you want one car, two cars?
You want mid-tier cars?
You want luxury cars and international travel versus domestic, you know, so all these are a factor.
So we can say that money doesn't matter, but if you do want to, for example, have kids, you know, your partner's income is going to be, is going to have to be a factor in, you know, a deciding factor in your partner.
Correct, but I'm more so attracted to like not even like a number.
Like I am more attracted to someone that has the drive in their life to like want to make that money.
Like if they are making 40K, but they have like business ideas.
I do see what you're saying.
You know what I mean?
Women do tend to invest in men.
They'll see someone with potential and they'll see a potential winner and they'll invent.
My mom is hilarious like that.
She's single at like 50 and she saw a guy who earned good money, not so attractive in terms of what he had going on.
She took him, she goes, grow out the facial hair, we'll get you a new wardrobe, this, that, and now he walks around like an absolute don.
And she's invested in that guy and now took him from like a five to a nine.
No, yeah, and that's how my parents were.
Like my mom, my dad wasn't making like a ton of money, but then they started dating and she saw that he had this drive and he's like doing very well for himself.
He's doing amazing and that's like something that I would want like honestly in life to be able to grow with someone.
I think some women move like that but there's also I think just as many women I disagree with you a bit slightly here in that I think a lot of women wait at the finish line and fuck the winners.
So I think when I don't think you're wrong for saying and there's definitely a lot of women who do care about ambition but I think my view on it is women are not so concerned with a man's ambition as they are concerned with has he reaped the benefits of said ambition because an ambitious guy who there's a lot of like really ambitious guys that want to fucking be SoundCloud rappers and shit that work at fast food restaurants.
Maybe one day they'll be successful.
But I think women are much more attuned to actually picking the men who have already reaped the benefits of said ambition.
And it's an age thing as well.
Like if you're 21 and you see a guy who's like studying whatever, but he's broke and you know that he's going to be rich one day, then that's a good horse to bet on.
But if he's 40 and he's not earning any money, but he's got ambition.
Sorry, mate.
And a lot of people who have ambition don't make it.
Like, not everybody is going to make it.
Is that matching up to like the work they're putting in?
Like, realistic everyday, like type of thing.
Maybe.
Words.
People have to be realistic.
People have to be realistic at some point.
You can have all the ambition in the world, but not everyone can make it, unfortunately.
Not everybody is going to be a rock star.
80-20 rule.
Let's continue on a little more with the Jonah Hill stuff.
Then we're going to get the soup chats, guys.
And then when you have some good stuff, some other good stuff to react to.
Okay, so this is another screenshot.
She's at the top.
I don't care for your misogyny.
What does he say here that's misogynistic?
We can't do surf social things.
Give regard to our relationship.
I've been vulnerable as possible, and I'm telling you, I'm needing you to step up to the plate, which you can.
I'm sure of it, but these losers don't get your time if you want me.
Straight up, it's consideration.
I respect your love of surfing, and I respect myself as well.
And your love of surfing and being in those situations and lack of awareness are not mutually exclusive.
This isn't me.
I have my own issues that I own.
If you want marriage and family, you can't use the 25 card.
Okay, so I guess she was 25 when they were dating and she was still living her best life.
And I don't know.
Step up and cut the shit.
These people don't get your time or your kindness at the sacrifices of minds.
So we don't know all the details here, but it sounds like she's hanging out with some dudes or something who knows.
By these people, he meant any friend of mine that he hadn't personally approved of.
And somehow she's saying, I don't care for your misogyny.
I don't see, I mean, if you guys can parse what she, I don't see anything in this text here that is misogynistic.
Absolutely.
So like hateful of women or contempt of women or, I mean.
But personally approved.
I don't see.
Okay, it's not misogynistic, but it's a little bit like, okay, so you have to meet every single person I encounter.
But there are people that, you know, your partner's going to meet and they're automatically going to get it off-vibe.
I'm sure you guys have met your partner's friends and there are one or two people that you're like, that person?
Right.
It's just how it is.
So I get that.
It depends what they're doing around them as well.
I mean, there are definitely toxic friends.
I had an ex-girlfriend once who just, one of her friends were all just cogheads.
And I couldn't stand it.
And I was like, just don't hang out with them.
She wouldn't listen to me.
But like, our other partners should be given the room to like, they should be able to be around certain behaviors.
And like, it depends on the relationship to be able to do that.
Like, control yourself.
To an extent, you are who you hang out with.
Literally, exactly.
You reflect who you hang out with to a very large extent.
And I think that if you're surrounding yourself with people that have horrible behaviors and patterns, that you're going to, you're going to have to do that.
That saying where it's like, if you hang out with people that smoke all the time, eventually you are going to pick up a cigarette.
You are who you hang out with.
But also at an extent, you got to put an accountability of your own.
Yeah, you do have to practice self-control, but it comes to an extent.
If she's hanging out with these low lives constantly, she's going to be reflecting those behaviors that they're engaging in.
Of course, if you have a friend that's going through a hard time and they're currently engaging in toxic behaviors, that's a little bit different.
You're being a good friend, but then you also, like I said, you have to practice self-control just to not encourage those behaviors or inactive.
Do you mind if we go around on the question I said before?
What would you girls prefer?
A man with no boundaries or very strong boundaries and why?
I would say a man with very strong boundaries because, like I said earlier, if he doesn't have boundaries with you, he doesn't have boundaries with other people in his life.
And that's already, that's a red flag to me personally.
I think that if it comes from a good place and good intentions to help you in life and help you not hang out with people that are doing drugs or stuff like that, I think that it's a positive thing, honestly.
Can you think of a situation where somebody's ever had too strong a boundaries with you?
If you're out on a night out, for example, and then he's like texting you every half an hour, where are you?
Where are you?
What time should I pick you up, et cetera?
Is that a turn off?
Or are you happy that you're not going to be able to do that?
No, I think that it's like he cares about me.
He wants to make sure I get home safe.
I don't view it as a way of him being like, oh, she's doing something sketchy.
I view it as a way of, oh, I care about you.
I want to make sure that you get home safely and that you're protected.
And I love, that's what I look for.
I want to be protected and all that stuff, like in a relationship.
Yeah.
If he's texting every 20 minutes, I think that's codependency, though.
There's a fine line between really strict boundaries and then just having insecurity.
Leave some space to talk about your day or leave some space for space.
Everyone's doing something so simple and did not have the time.
Text is a text for a reason, so you can read it later.
And if it's important, you call or you can't be that upset at the end of the day.
Yeah, I don't think you should discuss anything super important over text just because you can't see what they're trying to express personally.
There's numbers for miscommunication as well.
Totally.
And maybe that's what was happening with that little scandal.
She read it completely different.
Fuck that, I believe.
What do you guys think?
No boundaries or too strict a boundaries?
I mean, somewhere in the middle would be nice, but I would definitely go for boundaries.
You know, that shows that you know you're self-aware enough to have set those boundaries or at least thought that they're not bad.
I mean, when I say strict boundaries, I mean donor boundaries.
I wouldn't say that's not really that strict.
You don't think they're strict?
I don't think so.
I think that seems like he just figured that out.
But okay, let's put this.
If the strict boundaries were you can't post on social media, you have to give up your Instagram.
That's a strict boundary.
If you're supporting me and we're like going strong, I want to have a family with you.
I see myself spending the rest of my life.
Yeah, I don't know.
So you'd give up your Instagram?
If the man took care of me, you guys would all give up your Instagrams?
No, I love to be small.
Why not?
Because that's.
This is the guy.
You like this guy.
What does Instagram give you that he can't?
You should not be that insecure to a level to think that me having an Instagram is going to ruin our bond.
Right.
So the act of him saying that is a turn off.
But what if he's like, everything else matches everything that you would be looking for?
But the one thing is he's saying, like, just get rid of the Instagram.
Because maybe from his perspective, it's like, if he's giving you everything you need, like, what would you need from Instagram?
That's really tough.
Or men's validation?
No.
What if I just, this is what I want to post my art.
I want to share my art with the world.
Your artist.
He said you can have your own.
If you don't get out of a website, you want to pay the best.
But not yourself.
I can't post myself.
Yeah, exactly.
You can have your art.
It's strong as me.
Why can't I do that?
It's just his boundaries.
But why is that a boundary?
Is it because you're not going to have other people are going to steal me away?
Like, what's the deal?
You know what I mean?
I don't know.
There's a reason.
I got to have a lot of people.
That's a reason that depends.
That probably is a reason.
It's the fact that there are a lot of girls who are getting a lot of attention from a lot of guys on Instagram.
Instagram is the biggest dating app in the world.
You're still advertising yourself as single on Instagram.
Maybe it's not as much like you as much as it is like guys know guys.
And so knowing what other guys are thinking as they're like scrolling through and looking at your stuff, like maybe he's just not comfortable with the idea of you putting yourself out there for other men to kind of have access to in that way.
Guys, no guys, but I know myself.
And if you're dating me and you really, you really care about me like that and know me, then you should know that the attention or other people can't steal that.
You know what I mean?
And if that's not the case, then don't talk to me.
Please.
I've got a question for you.
If you knew that no guy would ever see your Instagram, would you still post pictures of yourself?
OnlyFans, you're OnlyFans, right?
I have, I have, and I'm just an avenue, yes.
That aside, you're not making money.
If no guy could ever see your photos, would you still post on Instagram?
I mean, there's been times where I haven't posted for like two years at a time.
So like that's not the problem.
And you would have given up Mr. Rotten.
You weren't even posting.
Yeah, it was just like, I don't know what to, I don't care.
Like, I have pictures.
Do you feel like it's maybe like an attachment thing for you?
Like, you feel like somebody's trying to control you?
Like, you don't want to let go of that autonomy that you have over Instagram?
Yeah, it's like, why is that the.
Why is that the what if he did it?
What if he did it in a very loving way?
And he said, you know, this is this.
No, that still is telling me that you have a problem with yourself that you need to figure out before I get any more invested in you.
So what if he had a completely valid reason that had nothing to do with dating or anything like that?
That had nothing to do with men looking at you?
What if it was like a safety reason?
Safety?
What kind of safety?
Just make it make sense.
Just check every single thing.
Well, here's an example.
Here's an example.
Some people will like take stories at a restaurant while they're still at the restaurant.
And if you're like with a high-status guy, he's like, bro, don't be letting people know where the fuck we are right now.
You're Rapton Hill.
You don't want people to know like Paparazzi or fucking Spirit.
Rappa got killed because his girlfriend posted a photo.
Oh, you should say he was bound to say that.
Pop smoke.
No, no, no.
It was different rapper.
Who?
Oh, Nick knows it.
I did.
Nick behind the scenes, coming in clutch.
Yeah, she posted like a photo of the food, and he was in it, and then they showed up and they popped.
What's his name?
Pop smoke?
Rest in peace on Pop Smoke, though.
humorous and in a world where there was a there was a valid reason that Wait, what?
No, look, like.
Tell us how you really feel.
Tell us how you really feel.
Just that all gives.
That's all giving you're insecure.
There's something you haven't worked on.
Like, you're not like.
Say I'm dating you and I had some crazy stalker that was trying to kill me.
Yeah.
And I said, hey, you need to delete your Instagram if we're going to be together.
What is this?
What does that have to do with you?
But if we're together, you could be in jeopardy as well.
But also, things that you post could totally give away where I'm at.
Then obviously, I don't want us to die.
And I don't want to put myself and my partner in danger.
But if this is like a like we're talking about like a generalized.
We're just talking about like theoretically, if this were the case.
Theoretically, if it's like a special like thing like that, then yeah, okay, like whatever.
But also, you still sell into a relationship with me knowing that I'm choosing this path in life to want to be more public than you.
Okay, I thought it was a good idea.
Maybe we can't work it out.
Like, it's okay.
Like, friends.
Here, let's try to get through the rest of the messages.
I'll just try to read them and then we'll go ahead.
Next.
So many.
I know.
Okay, yep, same one.
Next.
Next.
Okay, yeah.
You make me sick.
That makes me feel like, okay, I guess he made her sick.
Okay.
Next one.
That just looks like her own insecurities that she's pushing onto him.
The amount of women I know and do not know pouring in with love and support is not something I was expecting from sharing all this, and it really is a beautiful silver lining.
It's been two years.
Like, girl, come on.
Really dead.
I hope my ex has a daughter.
Maybe she'll turn him into a real feminist because the fact that he calls himself a feminist now is laughable.
Okay.
He calls himself a male feminist.
That was the red flag.
Yeah, that was a blood.
There's more.
Next one.
There's just so many of these.
We're just not even going to react to all of them.
Oh, shit.
She's posted.
Okay, next one.
I don't know why she's posting that.
Can I?
Screenshots of her pics.
And I guess he was sending her.
Oh, here are he's saying, here are like the photos I dislike.
Next one.
I respect your skill and you're surfing, blah, blah, blah.
I respect that you're hot and beautiful.
But I also respect myself and what I'm interested in in my own life.
And what I let into my heart and inner circle.
So celebrate yourself and your life, however you please, and shine bright.
But I don't want to have to deal, and we didn't see the rest of it, but get whipped.
I did this all in the name of protecting him from crippling anxiety.
That would be hurtful and triggering for me.
Understood, I don't need or want.
It's like this.
Okay, oh, something came in.
This looks like they're both very interesting in pushing that onto each other.
That's all I'm saying.
So, I mean, I don't know.
That's a fucking mess.
Hurt people, hurt people.
Next.
Good job for me taking all those screenshots to counteract the gaslighting.
Grom me would be proud of us.
Okay.
Congratulations.
Feeling fortunate for all the amazing women in my life and extra fortunate that I go to law school with several of them and then I'm sure we'll cross paths in our future careers.
So this is going to be your future attorney representing you in the case she's airing her dirty laundry about an ex.
That's a great look.
That's a great look.
I would not, me personally, as someone who's like gone to see lawyers about various different things, I would not want to go to a lawyer that is like this petty.
Keep it up.
Keep it up.
What if she gets upset with you and then she uses some screenshots or discloses in her professional capacity?
I don't think she would do that, but it's just such an unprofessional thing to do.
And she's saying she's now recommending her people, boycott his documentary, I guess.
Next one.
Oh, gosh.
People are making memes of free Sarah as if her situation is comparable to Britney Spears' situation where she was in a conservatorship.
Also, she claims to be bipolar, which is interesting.
And apparently a little research that I did on her, I think she disclosed that she's type one, bipolar, which is massive manic upswings, impulsive reckless behavior on upswings.
Type two is more the smaller hypomanic swings and then depressive phases.
That's courtesy of Vermilion.
Thank you, man.
So she has the crazier version of bipolar, apparently.
I'm not really super familiar with.
Is anyone here bipolar?
No.
Anybody?
Show of hands.
Any bipolar people?
Diagnosed.
Anybody?
A couple of you sighed a little bit.
Some of us might be, who knows?
I don't know.
Are you talking about, is it you?
I don't know.
You got bipolar?
Here, let's just, everybody.
I've seen some symptoms, you know.
Oh, shit, okay.
Everybody at this, just right now, I want you all to disclose all your mental illnesses And as well as any medications you might be taking.
Let's start with a little bit.
A little trigger warning.
Rattlesnake TV.
Absolutely 100% mentally healthy.
And I reject most of the diagnoses.
Oh, guys, look, look at how beautiful it is outside.
You've got a little palm trees.
It's like twilight right now.
It's nice, you know.
Madison, what drugs are you taking?
None.
Oh, what?
What the fuck?
Okay.
What about you?
None.
Any mental diagnoses?
DSM?
Not that I know of.
Okay.
Very mentally stable and healthy.
Based.
Okay, Flex.
Let's not share.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Julie, someone's got something.
Yeah, oh my gosh.
I used to be liberal, but I took the red pill.
Did we skip over you?
We skipped, yeah.
Do you want to?
Yeah, I can share.
I take five milligrams of Lexapro.
Okay.
What is that for anxiety, depression?
No, it's for more kind of OCD kind of tendencies.
It's pretty mild.
Like, I don't really notice it.
What would happen if you didn't take it?
If I didn't take it, probably I would have like a lot more kind of like racing thoughts.
Like it would be a little more difficult to organize my thoughts.
Particularly like late at night, probably, like before sleep.
So it helps you sleep?
Indirectly, I think so, but not directly.
Got it.
Like to calm the brain.
It doesn't calm, it more helps organize it a little bit.
Okay.
Oh, did you not hear what I said?
You said you used to be feminist or I used to be liberal, but I took the red pill.
No, it's already good.
It's already good.
Based.
You took the red pill?
I did.
Faced.
What was the red pill?
Oh, you know.
You know?
The flip side of YouTube.
The flip side of Twitter.
She started watching my videos.
Go subscribe.
Okay.
I'm mentally stable, but I probably have a few ex-boyfriends that would like to debate this topic.
Okay, so they would say you're not mentally stable.
Yeah, but they don't realize that my reaction is probably a reaction to their action.
But we're working on it.
But you also get to choose how to react.
That's very true.
So therapy has helped me with that a lot.
It's their fault.
So what would your boyfriend say about you?
So there was one incident that, so my ex, my situation ship keeps bringing it up.
So about two years ago, he owned a detail shop where we're from.
And one of his employees was texting me and was like, oh, like he was hitting on this girl and asking her to come over to his house when we were at breakfast.
And I asked him about it and he was like, no, she's just a friend.
And he was having some sort of watch party at his house and he ended up inviting this girl.
And I was really upset with this.
And I was not controlling my emotions at this time.
Sorry, I'm a little nervous.
But I was not controlling my emotions at this time.
And we got in a huge fight.
And I may have kicked a dent in his car.
But I immediately sent him the money to pay for it as soon as I was done.
So, you know, I fixed it, right?
Accountability.
I like that.
What else?
What else you got for us?
Yeah, that's mild.
It's mild.
That's a little bit of a little.
What else?
What did you do?
Vandalism?
Just some mild vandalism.
Yeah, one time I chased him down the highway going like 110.
There we go.
There we go.
No, it wasn't.
I was in my, I have a bin's too, so I was just showing my car.
He was going to the bar, and I was like, no, you're not.
Not without me.
I actually had COVID during this time, too.
So, you know, we were risking it all.
Wait, you were, so you were, how fast were you going?
Like 110.
You were chasing him down the highway?
Yeah, because he was trying to go to the bar and I was like, no, you're not going to the bar.
We're both sick with COVID.
And he was like, no, I'm going anyway, because he was asymptomatic.
Okay, kind of scummy, but very scummy.
But then, like, the whole reckless endangerment thing probably wasn't.
Yeah, I just kind of took it ten times more.
Okay, so did you catch up to him?
I did, and then I decided to just, I was like, what am I doing?
Like, what were you going to do to stop him?
Like, I have no idea.
He was building a machete, obviously.
At this point, I was just like, I just need to talk to him.
He's going to listen.
And now I look back and I was like, he definitely was just going to do what he wanted to, and I should have just stayed home.
This is current situationship?
Yes.
Is he going to be upset about this?
We've been through a lot.
Oh, no.
Oh, he's fine with it?
Is he watching this right now?
He's a cool guy.
He was downstairs.
Yeah, he was actually downstairs.
What's the third one?
You said there were like three things, I think?
No.
There probably is some more stuff I just cannot think about at the top of my head right now.
Just can't disclose it because it's a statute of limitations.
I kind of think self-incriminating.
Still gotta wait another year before you wait.
Okay.
I knew there was more.
What about you?
I'm mentally healthy.
I also would reject any diagnoses.
I think a lot of people are.
That's that Mormon in you.
That's that Mormon in you.
Oh, maybe.
That was probably.
Wait, you're ex-Mormon, right?
Yeah.
Wait, just curious, what do they believe?
Isn't there something about like a planet and then there's like spaceships that are going to rescue you or some shit?
What are you talking about?
That's Scientology.
Oh, that's Scientology?
Yeah.
And I thought there was something about that.
Tom Cruise is on that train.
There's something.
He also rejects big pharma.
Isn't there something about that Mormonism?
We still got that decision, but Tom Cruise is.
Spaceship that's going to rescue you?
Am I?
I mean, honestly, I was Mormon until I was about 16.
And so, like, from there, and honestly, it was something that was kind of held over my head in a sense.
Like, it was like, if I didn't go to church every Sunday, my dad was like, do you want your phone for the week?
And I was like, well, yeah.
So I went to church.
But since then, I've figured out my own connection for myself, and it's a lot more meaningful as far as like a job.
Do you want to raise your kids as Mormon?
Absolutely not.
No.
Have you been excommunicated?
No, my mom was.
Your mom was excommunicated?
Yeah, because she probably shared some beliefs that were contrary, or just not even contrary, but just not taught in the LDS church.
Aren't they meant to be like super friendly people, like overtly friendly people?
It's ironic, yeah, because especially in Utah, it's surprising how unfriendly the culture is in a lot of different ways.
So it's very, very interesting.
It's very unique.
Are you religious at all still?
Like I kind of said earlier, I'm not religious, but spiritual.
So I still follow Christ and God have a relationship there.
But yeah, I think it's a lot more complex than a lot of religious relationships.
So you say that you follow Christ and you follow God.
So you have a specific definition of what your spirituality entails, but you wouldn't call yourself religious?
No, because I think religion is, I mean, it's the organization around whatever spiritual belief that is.
Okay, yeah, that's what you're saying.
I wouldn't say religious just because like when it comes down to religion like I think I mean it's imperfect organizations because it's imperfect men so therefore like when it comes down to it I don't want to and that's kind of I guess that's kind of why I made the decision to actually leave the Mormon church And I went and got records removed and everything like that.
It's interesting, though, because, like, you said you don't believe in Mormonism, but, like, do you think that...
So you said you don't believe in religion, but do you think that your experiences with Mormonism potentially turned you off just believing in a more generic religion?
I think somewhat.
So I think, I mean, I'm definitely like, obviously, that's where the base of my beliefs has come from.
And obviously from there, I've taken what I was kind of cultivated to believe growing up and just learned for myself.
I think in order to get answers for yourself, you have to take it to God.
There's not going to be, you can read as many scriptures, you can read as many, you know, things or like whatever like men are going to give to you.
But anything that's had the chance to be even written down has a chance to be swayed one way or another.
And I really think it's about having that own connection with Elohim to figure out what that is.
I'd be very interested to see where you are five years from now.
I in your time.
I'm very interested.
Even a year ago, figuring things out.
Yeah, and it's kind of coming to the point to where I've been a little more wishy-washy in the past, but now I'm like, I know, I have a set of beliefs that I know that it's personal to me and my experiences rather than just what people kind of spoon-fed me to believe because they told me that would, you know.
Okay, moving on.
We were talking about mental illness, and if you're on any drugs, I don't know why I asked that question.
But if you guys want to share really quick and then let's continue on, what you got for us?
Nothing does.
But I do have anxiety.
No, I know.
No, unmedicated.
But, you know, getting through it.
Okay.
What about you?
You don't have to, but this is a very personal question.
I'm not going to fucking share this.
I'm not going to say I'm like mentally healthy for but you do take a cocktail of various mind-altering drugs.
I look, I sometimes go out, I'm in that industry.
Like, you go out and you, you know, whatever.
It happens.
And I've done my like rehab.
You did your time?
How much work?
How long were you in prison for?
I was in that type of prison for a year and a half.
Oh, were you actually incarcerated?
No.
Oh, rehab.
Oh, my ears just pricked up.
Oh, my.
Yeah, so I did that, but that's because I know I have other mental things I need to, you know.
But still, no, no diagnosis.
No, I don't know.
You said you were in rehab?
Are you no, I did.
I already finished it.
Are you sober?
No, not anymore, not fully.
No.
How long were you sober?
A year and a half.
You fell off when you came to the podcast?
Was it earlier?
To Los Angeles.
When you moved to LA?
That happens to a lot of people.
Don't move to LA.
If you want to.
Or at least don't come here, right?
I've noticed that since I've been here the last few days.
And it's not like, respectfully, you know, like you gotta build up to that, but not like I'm doing like horribly.
This works.
If you know me, like, this is like pretty good.
But Burton, what about you?
I would say I'm pretty mentally healthy.
Sometimes I have like, I'll get a little bit of social anxiety, like randomly going to places with like a lot of people, just because it makes me very anxious sometimes.
And like, I don't think this is a mental illness, but I feel like I'm like pretty horny all the time.
So if that's a mental illness, then yes, I'm not mentally healthy.
I've thought about that.
No, honestly, that's the thing, though.
I think I understand that.
Yeah, we know.
Do you?
Oh, yeah.
We have 16 times more testosterone than you guys.
Oh, my.
That's this sexual hormone.
Try waking up in the morning as a guy.
Those levels are dropping, though.
Sorry?
Yeah, those levels are dropping.
Oh, yes, they are.
Yeah, testosterone is dropping big time on four.
My mental health really does have like Bert.
Okay, all right.
Here, let's get some chats out of the way.
We will come back to the John Hill thing really quick, but first, let us get these chats.
Give me just a sec as it pops up.
Okay, we have Mick Gold.
Bert, can you read this one for us?
Yes.
Okay, Mick Gold said, ask the ladies, how do you feel about this?
Men are allowed only one emotion, anger, and women are allowed every emotion except anger.
If she's angry, she will, if she's angry, she will cry.
Lots of luck guys figuring out why she's crying, McGold.
I don't really understand the question.
Ask the ladies, how do you feel about this?
Men are only allowed one emotion, anger.
Women are allowed every emotion except anger.
Okay.
I understand the question.
It's kind of a statement.
Yeah, so yeah, it's asking how you feel about that, because that's sort of what's generally accepted.
Like men are allowed, quote unquote, to show and express anger, but it seems, but feel that they are not able to express any other emotions.
And women are able to freely express all sorts of emotions except for anger.
Women feeling that they're not able to express that emotion.
I think he's asking us how we feel about that.
word uh well obviously i here we'll do this Agree or disagree with what he's saying.
So men are only allowed one emotion, anger.
Women are allowed every emotion except anger.
Raise your hand if you agree.
If you don't raise your hand, I guess that means you disagree.
I think it's a hard question to parse, maybe?
Yeah.
Well, hey, Mick Gold, thank you very much for that.
And I mean, I think perhaps maybe what he's getting at is like men are not allowed to cry.
Like not allowed to show sadness because it's like viewed as weakness.
So I don't know.
But okay, Migold, thank you very much.
We got Doc Vanablis here.
Thank you, man.
Burke, can you read this?
Yes, okay.
Jonah administered the laxative first.
Sarah then took the emotional dump on Instagram and she seems to be auditioning for the role of Amber Heard on the Hallmark channel.
Yeah, that's definitely some Amber Heard.
Ish going.
Okay.
We have Marcus Incendius.
Like Marcus Morelius?
Wait, fuck.
Marcus Aurelius.
Aurelius.
Marcus Aurelius.
Except Marcus Enceladus.
Okay.
Brixon, was Kay Walsh scheduled?
Thumbnail fake out.
Anyways, yeah, we fucked up on the thumbnail.
We accidentally put, we're going to change it after the show.
Your life is yours to live as you would have it, free of guilt, shame, and fear.
And whatever struggles you face, you are not alone.
Good luck with it and stay healthy, Kings.
Hey, Marcus Enceladus, thank you very much for the soup chat.
We have one here from Billy via Instagram.
My question is, and he prepaid this or whatever.
My question is, I think this is directed at us guys.
If body count doesn't make a hoo-ha more loose, why does it matter?
Wouldn't you rather be with someone that knows what they're doing versus a virgin acting like they're getting stabbed when you F them?
I hate going slow during sex.
This is a guy who never has sex, first of all.
So he's kind of challenging why men care about body count.
I mean, it's kind of respectable because it goes both ways, I guess.
Does it?
Well, it is a mimic.
I feel like it's mostly concerned about if women have a more, like, a higher body count than like if God is a bad person.
It sounds like he's just got a preference for girls who have a high body count.
Experience.
If that's how you say experience, yeah.
I wouldn't say experience.
He sounds like he wants to just go hard at the paint.
That's what we say in Australia.
Yeah, well, I guess he's like, maybe he's been with a virgin and, you know, I think that like, if you think about it, it sounds like he wants to, he's talking about a one-night stand, though.
He wants to have a girl who can fuck.
But like, you know, it's a bit different if you're looking at a long-term partner, you know?
Oh, go ahead, go ahead.
I was like, with a long-term partner, you can sort of, you know, she becomes more experienced sexually, but only with you.
Rattlesnake TV, Jake.
Yes, sir.
Even for a one-night stand, would you rather get with a girl who's a virgin or a girl who's slept with 50 guys?
Even if it's just a one-night stand.
Virgin.
Virgin.
100%.
Why?
Would you not feel bad taking her virginity for just a one-night stand?
No.
no because if it was consensual then they get to choose but the thing is better me than somebody else But who's going to be the best?
The thing is, it's going to sound harsh, but a lot of the time guys are actually quite repulsed by girls who have a high body count.
It's something that's like we're internally inherently very repulsed by.
I mean, it's this kind of go-the skill.
Youth beauty and fertility.
I think with women, it kind of comes down to, I mean, obviously, like, guys, like, when it comes to men, according to women, like, the woman that, like, only a certain amount of men can get, like, it kind of shows the value of how many men she's allowed in her, in her.
Exactly.
Exactly.
It's a very attractive thing.
If you meet a girl who's got a lot of self-control like that, it makes you feel like you've earned something, you know?
And if you don't feel like you've earned it, then it's not really that special.
So scarcity is important.
Are you saying that being on the other end of you also have that same discipline or like you just expect that?
Me personally, or are you talking guys in general?
I mean, you at the moment, since you were asking Claire.
I probably was a little bit crazier back in the day.
These days I'm a little bit more sort of reserved about it.
But I don't think it is as big a problem for guys as it is for girls.
So if it was like, if it was reversed and the girl that you were dating used to be a little crazier, body counts still.
It depends how crazy, really.
It depends how crazy.
If we're talking three, no, hell no, I wouldn't look at that.
No.
That's kind of crazy.
No, it's well.
The thing is, though, men and women are different.
It's different standards.
We're not the same.
We have different things.
Like, for example, I don't care how much money you guys make, but women care how much money we make.
I care about your past.
You care about my future.
It's very different.
Do you make a lot of money?
Well, it depends what you consider a lot of money.
Well, do you like to spoil your girl?
I don't have a girl, but if I did have a girl, yes, I'd spoil her.
Okay, well, then I feel like that's why you don't care, because that's your love language.
What do you mean why I don't care?
Like, that's why you don't care if they don't make enough money.
But I think most men in general are not really particularly preoccupied with the income that their partner makes.
because they like to be in charge well I think it just comes not necessarily but I think it just comes down to like kind of the different roles I mean it depends on like people I guess how you feel about like more traditional gender roles but even like from a biological standpoint like men are more of like the protector and the caretaker and like providing the provider have been have been built to like take lead in that situation you
which I think plays into the whole Jonah Hill thing with having the woman more so stepping into the man's frame so that the man can take lead in the relationship in that sense, so that the woman doesn't have to.
It sounded to me like Jonah Hill was very much in a very feminine frame in that relationship.
And he was saying, you know, I've been so vulnerable, I've been the best boyfriend ever because society has tricked him into thinking that being very vulnerable is the way to be the best boyfriend ever.
And then he goes and identifies as a male feminist and he writes, he does an article with Vice saying how he wants to fight toxic masculinity.
And it sounds to me like he was just in a very feminine frame.
Brittany, you had something.
Are you okay with a woman making more money than you?
Because I've gone on dates with guys that I made more money than and I feel like it demasculates them.
They can't handle it.
They can't handle it.
You go ahead and then I'll answer.
To be honest, it really depends.
It's more of an attitude thing for me.
Like if she makes more money than me, but the dynamics in the relationship are right, then it doesn't really matter.
It's just not in your phase.
But if she makes something like if I have a girl who makes a lot of money doing something that she's very good at, I find that very attractive.
So I'm not going to be like, oh, she makes all this money like I'm, you know, if she's, say, if she's like an artist or something like that and she sells her art for big money, I find that very attractive.
I find creativity and intelligence very attractive.
I definitely understand that.
Yeah.
It doesn't intimidate me if a girl makes more money than me, although at this point in my life, that's a very small proportion that make more than I do.
But in the past, I've dated women who make more money than me.
I don't, it doesn't bother me, but there can be some corresponding personality traits that can come with hyper-successful women.
For example, I mean, to be successful in business, you need to be, there's a certain degree of cutthroatness.
Like, for example, someone who's a lawyer temperamentally, whether you're a man or a woman, is going to probably lean towards being more disagreeable than like the average population.
In order to be a lawyer, you have to be skilled in argumentation.
Yes.
I mean, the lawyer is going to fucking run circles around you when it comes to like, you know, if you ever get into a fucking argument with your boyfriend or girlfriend, they're a lawyer, like, watch out.
Not necessarily, but they're going to fucking like lay out, okay, here's the rules, here's the laws and shit.
But that's not always the case.
There are some women who are hyper-successful that are still feminine.
I think the thing with women who make a lot of money, I think it more so falls on women who do make a lot of money not finding men who are not on their level attractive.
Because like, for example, take a woman who's a lawyer or take a woman who's like a successful businesswoman.
She's probably not going to look at a guy who, as we said earlier, works at like a fast food restaurant and view him as a suitable mate.
Whereas like a guy who's a guy who's an attorney will gladly date like a hot barista or like attractive, you know, she could be a college student or whatever.
So, yo, Andy thinks that you're muted $100.
Burke and Mandy, you guys said you drove together any of Collapse in the Works.
Also, the girl with flowers on her shirt looks like Sloan from Ferris Bueller.
I've never seen that.
I haven't seen that.
Sloan?
Wait, who's the flower?
Is it you?
She's got flowers on her shirt.
No, it's definitely you.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Ferris Bueller's girlfriend.
Yeah, yeah.
Can we actually pull that up, Nick?
Can you pull up another tab?
Just whichever one is the whichever one is we're on with the Jonah Hill, you can just replace the tab.
Sloan Ferris Bueller.
Yeah, you kind of look like her, I reckon.
I can see that's a good thing.
Ish.
Kinda.
I don't know.
I love the, it's gone backwards now.
F11?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Oh, I do.
She's got dark brown eyes, but it's a little bit different.
X out, just X out of that.
Hit the X. Where Yahoo?
Nope.
No, no, no.
F11.
The big photo, X.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Scroll down.
I mean, kinda.
I think it's the same.
I think he thinks all white people look alike.
I'm not white.
Oh, you're not?
What are you?
I'm half Indian.
Oh, half Indian, half.
Mixed European, yeah.
So I'm half.
Okay.
Well, he thinks.
Okay, I don't know.
Sorry, I didn't mean to, what's it called when you disprove his be insensitive to your racial identity, I guess?
I don't know.
No, it's okay.
I'm not worried about it at all.
I misraced you.
You know, like misgendered, but I misraced you.
Wait, are you up there?
No, not yet.
Are you upset?
So I need to apologize.
Am I canceled?
Okay.
Thank you, man, for that.
Was it a TTS?
I reckon it was.
Thank you, man.
Where were we?
We were talking about a woman's income.
Yeah, I mean, here, Jake, would you date?
She's not great, but she makes a lot.
Kylie Jenner?
No.
No.
no way she's like she's like all up in that la like influencer vibe and it's just it's not She's a Kardashian.
I find humble girls very good.
You DM'd Jenna or Tega?
That was a joke.
I never DM'd her.
Oh, you did DM her.
It was a joke.
And if I did, she would have replied.
Yeah.
I don't know.
We like confidence.
But yeah, I think as guys, like, I mean, a lot of the women I date, I'd say, you know, in recent history, they've probably been around my age.
They've been professionals.
I like girls in STEM.
So like girls who've dorky girls.
Yeah, I kind of like nerdy girls.
So like they tend to make good money.
Like they'll, you know, anyways, in any case, but I would also date like a girl who's 21 who's works at Chick-fil-A.
Would you date like an influencer, like a Jenna?
Jenna.
Like a Jenna?
Like Kylie Jenner.
Kylie Jenner?
I would honestly, and I'm probably going to get dragged for this, but I feel like I try to be very upfront and honest.
I would date her opportunistically.
Granted she is a couple months and then you're yeah I was gonna say she's attractive but like a lot of it's really plastic and I don't like plastic Like I don't like fake lips.
I don't like fake tits.
Question.
No offense to anybody here who may have plastic surgery.
What?
Question.
What's up?
Do you think she would date you?
Oh, no.
No.
I mean, never say never, right?
But opportunistically, I mean, she could get some career-wise.
But if you dated her opportunistically, then are you doing what Jonah's ex-girlfriend's doing and being an opportunist?
I think there's a difference.
Well, but here's the thing.
I think there's a difference between exposing someone vindictively for revenge and like dating someone for their status.
Women do that shit all the fucking time.
Like women will date a guy who's like, and look, men will date a woman because she's insanely fucking hot.
I just think it happens to be the case that women value status and wealth more than men do.
It sounds unusual because it's coming from a guy.
I'm just like, I'm being extremely blunt.
Most people are not going to admit, yeah, I would date someone who's like extremely wealthy and famous for opportunistic reasons.
Look, I mean, also the lip fillers and the plus single-byte.
I reckon they'd be incredibly boring to be around.
Am I talking?
I don't know.
I'm being honest.
At least I'm being honest.
You're being honest.
I appreciate that.
I feel that.
But, I don't know, there's, I don't know.
Would you?
Would you date her?
Would you date her if she came knocking?
What?
Would you date her?
Who?
Who's her?
Kylie Jenner.
Kylie Jenner.
Are you biased?
No.
Have we established that?
Yeah, I like what I also like when.
No, I would not.
Respectfully, respectfully.
Is it opportunistically or is it like Well you might Is that how we're talking about?
Yeah, you might just be playing the game like Brian.
You know what, though?
Maybe my framing is wrong.
Doesn't everybody date someone from an opportunistic?
Like, it's either this person is really physically attractive, therefore I want to date them.
It starts the catalyst is like what gets your attention.
Okay, so I'm not a total scumbag.
Okay, good.
I'm glad everybody agrees.
Some people, yes, it could be that.
And a lot of like a majority, yeah, maybe.
But like, there is guys that date women opportunistically.
Like, we don't take into account all the guys that have dated famous people.
I think women tend to socially calibrate that sort of thing a lot more, though.
Like, they tend to really analyze things socially, like social groups and who's where, and then date people because of future prospects and that sort of thing.
Whereas guys are much more like sort of, we see something and we're like, okay, yeah, she's cool.
All right, let's do this.
As an OnlyFans creator, I've definitely bumped into some guys.
I don't know if you guys can relate with me, but some guys who have definitely been like, hey, come be my sugar mama.
It's hard.
It's kind of like a bad thing.
It's kind of silly.
You'd also bump into guys who send you photos of their penis and say, laugh at it, you know?
1,000% and I'll wear it every single month.
Exactly.
Yeah, guys are into weird shit.
So OnlyFans is like, you can't really take that exception and make it the rule.
But if you're only aware of it.
It's a weird universe.
If you're only going into a relationship for someone to take care of you, it's like, where are you going into a relationship?
It's 100-100, not 50-50.
You should be able to, someone should take care of you and you should be able to take care of someone.
Yes.
Can I ask a question, Brian?
To the girls who do OnlyFans?
What is some of the weirdest requests you've ever had?
There's a couple of questions.
What's some of the strangest things you've ever seen?
I have one.
Okay, go for it.
Someone asked to like, okay, this was more of like a request, right?
Than spit it out while waiting.
It's a gift.
Prolapse in real life.
Like, prolapse them in real life.
Wait, what does that mean?
Huh?
Sit on that for a second.
Do you know what that means?
I don't know what that means.
Does the general public know what that means?
No, explain it in the most YouTube way possible.
Prolapse, their bum hole, okay?
Oh.
Like, it's when you, like, the inside is on the outside.
Oh, what's the next?
What's the next one?
What's the next one?
That was like the weirdest.
And I had to look it up.
I'm like, I don't even know what this person's asking.
You did it?
No, I didn't know.
Okay.
I found out what it was and I'm like, I don't want to know.
No.
They wanted you to do that online for them?
No.
Like, it was a request for a larger amount of money to do it in person.
But I'm like, I don't know.
A, I don't have the equipment.
I don't have the knowledge.
And I'm not going to, I'm, you're not going to.
Like, this is too.
At any point, did you stop to think that there could be some sort of a serial killer in the making here that you should tell the authorities?
No.
No, no, no.
That's not even the worst.
But like, that's like.
Respectfully, like, I didn't even know what that was.
I didn't even know what that was, but that is definitely, like, more out there.
All right, I'm all in on this conversation.
Who's next?
I had a guy ask me to gag on my whole foot and snot on it and then collect all of the spit and the snot in a bowl and then drink it afterwards.
And I didn't drink.
Did you do it?
No, I did not.
that was a limit for me that was wait he wanted you to like yeah Do you want to do something with the fluids?
Yeah, he wanted me to drink the fluids.
Okay, alright.
After I was done, he was.
He was like, collect everything in a bowl and drink it when you're done.
And I was like, you drink it.
See, this is the problem with porn.
When guys get too into porn, like, nothing is enough.
Like, you'll get into one thing and then it'll be a bit more extreme, a bit more rough, bit more this, and then eventually they're asking someone to gag on their foot and snot in a cardboard.
Yeah, but we can't shame him for his cane.
Yeah, like someone else is going to.
Hold on a second.
I think we should shame that king.
I agree.
I think that that's a shameable thing.
Look, at what point?
What you got?
What you got for us, Burke?
Go.
Oh, God.
I'm like trying to think.
I would say I've gotten like weird bodily fluid ones too, honestly.
Like people, I've gotten a few times where people have asked me to pee on my phone for them, like in a video, or like make myself throw up for them on a video.
And like, it's just like, I wouldn't, I don't know.
I feel like that's like the weirdest things.
Lucky you've got someone in the Philippines doing the chats.
No, I actually don't.
No.
No, I swear.
I really don't.
No, it's not.
It's not in the Philippines.
No, honestly.
Look at that.
No, you do all your chats.
Fair play.
I mean, probably, yeah, honestly, I would have decided with Burke on that.
Like, probably pee on my phone.
I have on the phone.
Yeah, I have to ruin it.
There are people in my life who do OF.
I don't want to say because I don't want to put their business out there, but they've asked me to do collabs with them, and it's like family members.
And I'm like, no.
They've, you know, also confessed their own things to me.
Like, things I didn't feel comfortable with, so I had to block them.
They had a lot of family members as well that were like weird as hell.
Yeah, that's why some lessons get very overwhelming and they like start confessing secrets.
Hurrom!
Haram.
They're personal therapists.
Haram.
What are you doing, Rattlesnake?
Sorry.
Sorry.
I went a bit out of the YouTube guidelines.
I didn't ask you.
If we get demonetized, you have to make up for the aggregate.
I'll send you a check.
All right.
Okay, let's do some super chats.
We have Ligma Johnson.
Thank you for becoming a member.
I get it.
Yo, Puffy Vegas.
Thank you, man.
Wait.
Hold on.
Oh, okay.
Can you have the girls rate themselves?
Yeah, we can do that.
We'll go around the table.
We also had this one from Stiffler.
So thank you, Puffy Vegas.
So he's asking you to rate yourself on a scale of 1 to 10 in terms of your physical appearance, your looks.
Let's start with Burke over here.
Okay.
I would say I'm like a seven or eight.
You have to say seven.
Seven.
But I would say like my mom thinks I'm a ten.
Okay, what about you?
I'm at least a solid eight, eight and a half.
And then whatever else with my that I bring to the table, I mean this is pure physical, right?
No, not purely physical.
This is purely physical.
We're talking purely physical.
All right, I'm an eight, eight and a half.
Okay.
That's what I would say.
Purely physical, maybe like a seven and a half.
Come on, ladies.
Okay.
Realistically.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Go ahead.
Seven.
I would rate myself a nine.
Okay.
Say five.
Stop.
A six.
I'm going to say six point five seven.
I would say a six, a seven if I'm all glammed up.
I'd say a seven.
I get myself like six.
You guys.
It's not bad to admit that your average underestimates six women.
The thing is, though, these things operate on a bell curve, though.
You have to understand that 90% of the population falls within like the four to sort of seven range.
It's like the rule of anything, really.
Like the very, very end of the spectrums are going to be like much, much harder to come by.
Most people operate within those middle bits.
It's not like it's like 10% or at the top.
It's a bell curve.
There's also an objective standard of beauty.
Yeah, yeah.
But everyone has to be.
Exactly.
That's my opinion.
Realistically, you're not going to be everyone's type.
Have you ever seen an actual tenant?
It hurts to look at them.
It's painful.
Oh, honestly.
Brad Pitt when he was young.
Oh, man.
Fuck club.
Personality comes with it, too.
That's the huge.
Not with physical.
All right, we have Puffy Vegas here.
Hey, thank you, man.
I appreciate it.
No message attached to this one, but you're Chad.
Thank you.
Good to see you back in the chat, Puffy Vegas.
I hope your Las Vegas escapades are going well, my friend.
All right, we have Marimore.
Hey, welcome back to the chat.
Good to see you.
Partner's reputation reflects the other partner.
He's a 1% public figure man.
On top of that, even he gets this kind of treatment.
This is related to our conversation about Jonah Hill.
Marimore, thank you very much.
Good to see you back in the chat, man.
Thank you for your patronage.
Vitres, thank you for the 50.
Burke, can I have you read this one, please?
Yes, of course.
It's the difference between I don't deserve you and I'm not worthy of you.
One is complimenting their partner, and the other is degrading themselves.
In my experience, women typically mean the first and the guys mean the second.
Yeah.
I don't under, I don't really.
That's like circling back to an earlier conversation that we had.
All right, Vitresa, thank you very much.
We have Mr. Cappadocia here.
Hey, good to see you in Chapman.
Thank you for the super chat.
Girls make it on OF, guys making in crypto.
Shibirium, next releases next month by bone.
Now, fellas, crypto winter is over, not financial advice.
Yo, Cappadocia, give me some advice in the DMs about some moves I should make.
Where do I invest in?
Can you read this one, El Burco?
That's your nickname, right?
What, El Burco?
El Burco.
Not that I've heard of, unless you know something that I don't.
Okay, go ahead, go ahead.
Disagree with Jake.
When a woman looks up to a man as more capable than her and empowers him, that's hyper, hyper, I don't know, hypergamy.
When she says she is not worth him, that's a red flag.
Jake went standard textbook, red pill without understanding women and trauma, common RP mistake.
Your response, Jake.
I think we kind of cleared that up a little bit.
We just had our definitions across.
You caught the first bit, but not the second bit.
And I said, I think what did we say?
We said it was more of an admiration type of point of view.
Not necessarily like, I don't think I'm good enough for you in a literal sense.
More know what he means by doesn't understand women in trauma.
I think, well, the last one, the last comment that we read kind of goes into it, how they were differing the difference between you're too good for me and I'm not good enough for you.
So I think I was going along the lines of saying like we appreciate it when women like look up to us and that women like it's it's this is proven that women date up because of hypergamy.
But yeah, I think we mostly agree.
Yeah, I think it's more of a somebody to look up to.
I mean in the like the kind of end game it's somebody that I want to raise my kids with so I want somebody that's going to be a like a good role model.
And I don't think that it's like I wouldn't say that it's like a traumatic it says trauma to me if they say like they look up to you.
I think he was saying like in the way that you were saying before how it was how men like when women are like I'm not good enough for you before we kind of established our definitions.
That's right.
It's not like I'm not good enough for you, but it's like you know like you're the best.
Correct, yeah.
All right.
Thank you very much for that TTS.
And then we have Andrew here.
Burke and Mandy, you guys said you wait this one came through as well.
I guess you guys can respond again, I guess.
I mean, yes, we do.
And we also stream together.
Yes, the collab is coming soon.
All right, I remember between two bags.
This only happened yesterday.
Beautiful.
All right, we have Sharon here.
Burke, can you read this one?
Yes.
Never ask an ex anything about a previous religion.
I bet once she has a couple kids, she'll find a religion.
I'm a Mormon, derogatory term.
Married at 19.
We have six kids together for 20 years.
Oldest kid, daughter on a mission.
Love the show, Brian.
Yo, Sharon, thank you very much.
Sue, I'm a Mormon.
That's a derogatory term.
Have six degrees.
Oh, by derogatory?
Oh, she, what?
Mormon is more derogatory.
They kind of they go by LDS, Latter-day Saints.
And they kind of, it was deemed that Mormon was a derogatory term a few years back.
A few years back?
A few years back.
This is like a woke changing of different things.
It's like they used to literally have videos where it's like, I'm a Mormon, like from the church that they put out, but then was it the South Park guys who did the Book of Mormon?
Did that change things?
Oh, I don't know.
I mean, there's lots of things that do that, but I think they went back to the origin of Mormon and where it came from, and it wasn't rather than accepting it in the middle of the day.
If you're self-referring, you say you're I'm LDS or what do you say?
Yeah, LDS, Latter-day Saints, because the full name Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
So it's more respectful to say LDS.
No, but how do you self-refer?
Like if, for example, to say like I'm LDS.
I'm LDS?
I'm LDS.
Yeah.
That doesn't.
Because, you know, for example, like I'm Christian or I'm Mormon.
Like if you're Christian, you believe in Christianity, but if you're just LDS, you believe in LDS?
Well, no, because they're technically, it's a Christian church, but they, I guess they're just a little more specific rather than just saying I'm a Christian.
But I'm a Protestant who believes in Christianity.
Right, so I guess I'm not.
So I guess LDS, I'm answering.
I guess it just goes, like, when I was a member, like, I would just say, like, I'm LDS, or like, I would say I'm Mormon because most people, like, no one really knows what you're saying if you say LDS.
So Mormon is no good anymore.
Supposedly.
I mean, it's not good.
I mean, I guess within the church, like, they straight away from saying referring to themselves as Mormons.
Can I clear this up a little bit?
Can I clear this up?
Oh, you're a Mormon, too?
No, but I...
Oh, excuse me, you're LDS, too?
So...
So it's offensive because people don't view Mormons as Christians, and so they're trying to rebrand with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saint to put emphasis on Christ and that they are indeed Christians.
Okay, but they always were Christians.
Yeah, but people just don't.
They're like the many Christian denominations would not consider them a valid Christian religion.
Like I'm Catholic, and we would not consider a Mormon baptism is not valid.
Yeah, for example.
Words.
So, and I think most mainline Protestant religions, if I think I'm pretty correct, also do not consider Mormons to be Christians.
They are considered a religious cult, not a cult like how we think of a cult, but a cult in that their beliefs do not meet the criteria to be considered true Christianity.
Who here would date a Scientologist?
No.
Anybody?
Harden.
Anybody?
Going once, going twice.
What defines a Scientologist?
You adhere to the principles and dogma of Scientology.
The great L. Ron Hubbard.
No, I don't think that's a feeling.
I'm so sorry.
Talk about red flags.
That's why I try to get you on Hollywood.
None of you would date Tom Cruise.
No, I could be friends with him, but I cannot date him.
Come on.
Somebody would date him.
Tom Cruise is a good guy to party with.
He looks like he would be active.
Rich.
Active.
Still handsome.
No, but he does his own stunts.
I will say he is very handsome.
He's got a weird.
Has anybody noticed his smile?
Are you guys aware of his smile?
It's overly.
Yeah, he has three teeth.
His teeth are like demonic or something.
When he was younger than he was.
I love Tom Cruise.
Has anyone never seen Tom Cruise when he was younger?
He had really messed up teeth.
Veneer.
Only when he got like It's not just messed up teeth, like the alignment.
Like, he's got like an extra tooth or some shit.
I don't even know.
It's like a fish.
It's nothing but shifted over.
I'm just an outside.
Let's see.
Give us a big smile.
Yeah, you got that Tom Curtis.
That's cool.
I don't know how you're right here.
I got like TV.
What's up?
F-11?
F-11.
He's still got four teeth in his chest.
I think he's mine.
So you guys would date him then?
You see what I'm talking about?
Are we body shaming Tom's guys?
Can we please not body shame him?
I apologize for that.
I'm going to get popped.
Can we see the bat teeth version?
Here, let's just keep it going.
He's a chad.
It looks like they photoshopped an extra tooth here.
We got Curtis Sam.
Would Jake and Brian date a female prison guard if you were locked up for life?
Yes.
Dull up.
She's going to sneak you all the snacks.
Any of them.
Any of them.
Yeah, but you could be married and just do conjugal visits.
No, she's going to be there more.
Oh, true.
She's a damn.
And she could get you freebies or she can get you.
You need a woman's top shooting.
She needs something from the outside.
Yeah, but have you seen female prisoners?
Yeah.
Well, it's that or you're getting the new inmates and you're like making one of the men.
Yeah, I guess you're right.
Beckers can't be choosers.
Yeah, yeah.
Lots of prison guards.
She's fine.
Oh, what's up?
Yeah.
Oh, she'd have a good time.
You know, there's a lot of female prison guards who get fired for like going down the bar.
Oh, they definitely.
Well, because we end up with a lot of them, a lot of them actually have a bit of a fantasy, you know.
I feel like.
And it's also, you know what I think it is?
You know what I think it is?
Is that a lot of men who are in prison, despite being criminals, are hyper-masculine.
Like very masculine.
So these like, yeah.
So these like female prison guards are like socioeconomically, you're not like in the best position if you're like a prison guard.
So they're like, oh man, these guys are fucking hot.
Because they're pretty masculine themselves.
Then the guys are just like at the next level.
They need that next level.
Or they're just about like, you know.
You know, there's a lot of girls, like, I knew a girl once who used to pen pal with like guys, and she's Australian.
She's pen paling with guys who are in like a prison like San Quentin doing it live.
Just a normal girl.
And I'm just like, God, that's so funny.
It's such a deep sexual fantasy that girls have there.
Has any girl here ever sent a letter to an inmate in prison?
Oh my god, she has.
Guilty as we need details.
I gotta have details.
I can't give details.
Come on, who?
Come on.
Let's pretend it wasn't.
Let's pretend it was your friend.
Let's pretend it was someone else.
Tell us what she did.
Your friend sent letters.
We're doing mental jiu-jitsu.
Tell us what your friend did.
I can't.
I really can't.
Sorry, I should have never.
Have you girls?
Alright, on this topic, have you girls ever seen the movie 365 Days?
Yes.
Yes.
It's about a mafia mobster who imprisons this girl, kidnaps her, locks her up for a whole year, and then eventually they fuck.
And like the tensions just build up this whole time.
Is that not like a university?
And for some reason, these women absolutely love this movie.
It's like a 50 Shades of Grey type thing.
Have you girls seen this?
And if so, did it get you going a little bit?
It did not.
It definitely did you, because you're always horny.
You were horny before the movie.
It's true.
It did, but also the guy that played the character, he's very, very attractive.
Yeah, he's very handsome.
The accent.
Speak Italian, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, there's definitely a discrepancy between the and I mean, maybe this is also due to the fact that there are more men who are institutionalized than women, but there are more women who are contacting men in prison seeking romance than the reverse.
There's not like dudes who are just like, oh my god.
No, dude.
Get me a fucking.
No, they're not.
Did you see the Richard Ramirez trial?
The Richard Ramirez.
The Night Cruel.
What the fuck is that?
The Night, what's he called?
The Night.
No, Richard Ramirez.
He's like the serial killer.
And he's like, no, no, no.
That's different.
No, no, no.
So this dude with the Let me just explain this.
So Richard Ramirez was like a serial killer who used to literally.
Yes, that's the one.
He used to sneak into people's houses and kill them.
Like he's brutal.
And he looks like the devil.
He's the scariest guy I've ever seen in my life.
And at his trial, there were women in their honeymoon.
Bro, you look all turned on right now.
I also went through this.
Like, there was women that were in love.
They were there at the stands watching him do his trial and they were like obsessed with him because he was a man.
He was a sexist.
Go back to these pairs.
This man is ugly as hell.
He's the creepiest looking.
He's ugly.
Richard Ramirez.
He looks like a drink.
Richard Ramirez.
Yeah, he's not cute.
It's terrifying.
But the thing is, back then, if you look at the women, they were into gory stuff.
They were into kidnapping.
Do you think it's changed, though?
I think it's something that's like inherent.
It's a king shame, but the thing is, this man, he actually, you know, took people's lives.
It's a difference between role-playing that stuff and then actually doing that.
There's a book called A Billion Wicked Thoughts.
I don't know if you guys have ever heard of this book.
So it's a book done by a bunch of Google engineers.
And basically what they did was they took billions of different Google searches and then they rank-ordered them in different categories.
And one of the categories that they did was female pornographic searches.
And when they looked at the most search terms for female pornographic fantasies, can I just really quickly go around the table?
Just really quickly give me one word or one sentence.
What you think women would be searching?
Like what that would be?
Women?
Yes.
What do you think women are searching on when they look at porn?
Lesbian, porn.
Lesbian?
Yeah, like BDSM type vibes.
Yeah.
Yep.
Definitely lesbian, BDSM, but I think like big humps.
Yeah, lesbian fantasy.
I feel like rape fantasies are crazy.
Okay, let's not talk about this.
Can I tell you the five?
Because they're pretty PG.
If you're going to say the R words, CNC, not all CNRC.
So the five were, I might get some of these wrong, but vampire, surgeon.
Oh, okay.
Surgeon.
Pirate.
I've heard that.
Billionaire.
And something else.
Surgeon?
Surgeon.
What did you say surgeon?
I might have said surgeon.
Werewolf, vampire, that was the other one.
Surgeon.
Billionaire?
Exactly.
Come on now.
I mean, vampire.
Vampire.
Wait, hold on.
Okay, we're not going to let you off the hook that easily.
You sent.
Did you know this person personally?
Stop, I knew you were going to go back.
Oh, no.
Come on.
I mean, yeah, I knew the person.
Here, let me ask some questions.
Okay.
What was his prison?
Like, what was the length of his prison sentence?
Do you know?
Five years, ten years, twenty years?
Life?
I don't think I know that.
I was young.
It was a while ago.
Were you dating him prior to him being locked up?
Yes.
Okay, so you were romantically involved prior.
Okay, I mean, that's not quite as objectionable, I suppose.
I was involved before he went away.
Were you involved in the murder?
No murder.
Okay, that's pretty base.
That's like green flag if you helped him hide the body.
Yeah, that's kind of base.
I'm sorry.
Oh, it's okay.
You sent him letters.
You were already romantically involved with him.
This wasn't some guy who you saw all the time.
Yeah, but letters, but the thing is, it was a lot of red flags.
It was already like I was already thinking about not talking to him.
Yeah, before he had gotten in trouble, got in trouble, talked to him for a little bit, and then was like, this is boring.
I need this in-person stuff.
Can't do this long distance locked up.
Can't do it.
We'll see you later.
That's a lot.
That's a lot.
It is a lot.
I mean, it was, you know, the bro play was nice for a bit, and now we're on to the next.
Well, and you said you were really young at the time, too.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
So, super.
Okay, anybody else here sent a letter to an inmate?
Okay, sir.
Anybody?
I haven't sent a letter, but the longest relationship comes in.
Well, a week and a half into our relationship, he went to jail for 18 days.
I wouldn't have picked it from you.
Wait, huh?
I know, right?
I would not have picked it from you.
Okay.
And I saved him once after that one.
Oh, no.
Wait, so okay, you had just started seeing this guy.
So, yeah, so we'd been friends for quite a few months leading up to it, and then we became like official boyfriend-girlfriend.
A week and a half later, he got a DUI upon being arrested for a DUI, which I definitely don't condone drinking and driving.
I wasn't there when it happened.
I just want to say that.
But he, a few years back, like had a medical emergency where he cracked his head open, basically had a warrant out for his arrest for assault because this is in Texas, so he got a DUI.
So he got a DUI.
I hope he's not going to get mad at me for talking about this right now, but he probably won't.
But basically, he slapped a male technician at the hospital.
He had done shrooms.
Okay.
It's like all these details.
I'm pretty going to have to choke a bitch.
And then when he had a DUI and they did like a deeper search, it showed they had an assault.
So they had to wait for Texas to come get him and extradite him out to Texas.
This was like after I was like...
It's always the ones you don't expect that like the bad boys.
I would like to sworn off.
I was literally like, I just want to work on myself and I don't want to date anybody.
And then like the first guy I like opened my heart to, he like gets arrested.
I'm like, oh.
Good shit.
Congrats.
Thank you.
Nice.
Okay, what were we talking about before I got onto this game?
Have we sent letters to any inmates?
You're talking about prison.
Oh, the question was, would we date a female prisoner?
Yes.
God, we win.
That's a topic that we could go far down.
Yeah, we'll move on.
Let's go back.
Let's finish up the Jonah Hill shit.
If you can pull that up, next.
Oh, this is Richard Ramirez.
like an ant yeah he does look kind of yeah he's got good cheekbones though I guess He's got crackheads.
He kind of got the Michael Jackson looking.
He's a hard note for me, John.
And look, you look into his eyes and you've just seen some shit.
What's this chick got to say about our boy Jonah Hill?
Jonah Hill, if you ever want to come on the podcast, we will have your back, sir.
Okay.
I don't know.
Something about turning down jobs for him next.
I'll roast him if he comes on.
This is more from Dr. Stern is the couples therapist we were seeing once a week for about four months.
Okay, I don't know.
Next, let's just, I think there's...
You can always change your therapist.
Jonah.
Okay, let me know.
We'll respect you either way, but these are my boundaries of this romantic relationship.
Thanks.
I'd love to know before the premiere, so I'm not put in the position of publicly flaunting our love, if my boundaries are going to be continued to be disrespected.
That would be hurtful and triggering for me.
And she says, understood.
Okay, next.
Abuse, by the way.
You know who.
Is this photo revealing sexual since she's in a bikini?
And I guess this is, I don't know if this is her arguing with him, like sending him, I don't know, whatever next.
Next.
Okay, I guess next.
These are some photos.
Next.
Dump him.
I would not date any of these people.
Oh, okay.
So she was sending him photos of like other girls or whatever, trying to like get a sense of where his boundaries lay.
And people who value their internet presence over their relationship is not where I am in life.
And it's fine if that's where you are in life.
Wish you the best with it, X. Please stop sending me this stuff.
Thanks.
Life will present real problems.
These are unnecessary ones.
Okay.
Pretty reasonable from Jonah Hill.
Okay, next.
What about the lady?
She's pregnant in that picture.
It wasn't her, it was something else.
I don't know.
Well, maybe you should have asked me more about what I do for work before you decided to date me then.
A little late now.
Keep taking me for granted.
Go model.
It's a fulfilling life.
You'll love it.
Real depth and substance and sustainability for relationships, but actually, I'm done.
I think he's meant to say I'm done with this convo next.
Your story matters.
Silence equals violence.
What?
Well, how would you know how bad it was unless I share?
Oh, I never acknowledged that for you.
Well, how would you know how bad it was unless I shared these screenshots?
I don't know if this is a present-day conversation she's having with Jonah, but basically she's saying if she didn't share this, it would be violence upon herself.
Interesting.
Next.
Oh my gosh, Chris.
She keeps poking at him, and it's just to make a match.
Yeah, she sent like at least 40 stories in the past 48 hours next.
Wait, oh, whatever.
Someone being an emotionally abusive partner doesn't mean they're a terrible person.
Again, I mean, she's using emotionally abusive next.
Oh.
What?
Oh.
Sorry, this is the one mine.
That's me.
What the fuck?
Oh, shit.
Someone got a shout out.
Whoops.
No, that's just, you know, we got to.
Could have been those news.
She wanted to be on the show.
She wanted to be on the show.
Yeah.
Good.
Oops.
Oh, she's.
Okay.
In any case, X out of all of those, all of the Jonah Hill stuff, because we're done with that.
And then we do have one article to pull up from Jonah Hill.
Let me know when you have it.
Good sir, do you know how to, oh it's control W to, that's the command to just X out of the tab.
So you don't have to click, click, click, click.
While we do that, I had some notes here.
We had Jonah Vice.
Okay, we need.
Priya, you have horses.
Are you a horse girl?
Yes, I have.
How many horses do you have?
I have three.
Three horses.
Do you do equestrian?
I do, yeah.
I've ridden competitively since I was four and done it professionally for the last time.
Anybody else here have a horse?
Any other horse girls?
I did a question, though, in college.
I know there's a stigma around horse girls.
There is a bit.
Yeah, can you explain the stigma?
So I don't know all that much about it.
I've heard it from guy friends and past romantic interests that have exclaimed that they know that there's a stigma around horse girls.
But other than the fact that I have heard that they are generally crazy, I don't know too much about it.
I wonder what it is about the horses that make them crazy.
I couldn't tell you.
I don't know if anybody else wants to chime in on that if they're more well-versed than I am.
I don't know.
I thought that was a green flag.
You got to click F-Level.
It could be at the club.
I don't know.
I mean, I have other opinions on the benefits of it, but I mean, I don't know.
I think, isn't there a hierarchy when it comes to women who have horses?
As a guy, you will never be number one.
It's going to be horse, dad's money, you.
Correct or incorrect.
So my dad has never paid for any of my horses.
My dad did not like the fact that I was involved in horses.
So he did not support it whatsoever.
Mom's money?
No.
Mom definitely helped a bit when I was a kid, but for the most part, I started working to pay off my horse habits from drive.
Frame it like that?
I didn't mean to crazy like that.
You're in horse habit quite quickly.
Congratulations.
A G600 jet will arrive in 48 hours.
You will be flown out and be required to sign an NDA with ATRO due to your Klingenus post-tact.
Wear less makeup.
Lose the nose ring.
Brian, don't embarrass me with the saving you bear story.
I just would like to remind you, Burke, of my friend here, Marquavius Martin.
He did rescue me from, are you sure it was a bear?
No, that was Mike Davis.
He saved me from a shark, if I recall.
That's cool.
Or was it a raccoon?
I think we need the flower.
Well, I've been saved numerous times from various wild feral animals by my audience because I have a relationship with my viewers.
We go camping, we go surfing, we hike.
And it happens to be the case.
I don't know why.
I think maybe my pheromones or some shit, animals are attracted to me and they fucking like attack me and yeah.
So I've been attacked by a bear, a rabid raccoon, and a shark.
And all three times I was saved by my compatriots that happened to watch my show.
It's confusing.
It's beautiful, though.
It's very beautiful.
Okay.
Burke, do you accept his invitation?
To be flown out?
Yeah, he wants to fly you out.
G600 jet.
I don't know what kind of jet that is, but what's that song, by the way?
Anybody know that song?
G6.
Like a G6?
Oh, why are we going to get it?
That was a tune back in the day.
I'm down, Martin.
Do you accept?
I do accept.
And I will take the nose ring.
Done.
It's done.
Okay, sweet, what were we, oh, we were talking about horses.
So you said you bought all your horses?
Aren't horses like super expensive?
They can be, yeah.
How long have you been riding?
18 years now.
But so you said you had a job, but like were you working at like to pay off the horse habit or something?
Yeah, I started like essentially just like trading like manual labor for like to pay off lessons.
Wait, question for you.
Yes.
The man of your dreams or your horses?
Man of my dreams.
You're not a real horse girl?
I don't know about that one.
So, I mean, I love the horses, but they're not, you know, the end-all be-all in life.
I would eventually like to raise a family and obviously get married and have a good family life.
The horses are a plus.
I'd like to have both, though.
Good times.
Good times.
Okay.
Yeah, pull it up, Nick.
Pull it up.
Okay, so this was the Vice article from a couple years ago.
Former pro film, excuse me, former bro film King Jonah Hill wants to fight toxic masculinity.
He hopes the fans that loved him in Super Bad will watch him shed light on the ugly side of what binds bros together.
So he's like feminists, you know?
So it's like, there he is.
What is a man being a feminist really mean?
It's a guy who likes to be pegged, basically.
It's a cock.
If he likes to be pegged.
Okay.
All right.
In any case, you can X out of that.
You can X out of that.
Good times.
Okay.
Where were we?
Talking about horses?
I think.
Did you have any more questions about the horses, Brian?
Are they, are horse girls really crazy?
Is that what you're trying to say?
I mean, maybe you can shed some light on this.
My understanding is horse girls be crazy.
I'm sure, but I feel like there's crazy girls in every sport, every industry.
But I feel like it's especially noticeable when it comes to women who have horses.
You know?
Look crazy.
Kind of like ballerinas.
I don't date them personally, so I can't give you that.
People who work with them.
I said, I don't date horse girls myself personally, so.
Anonymous donated $100.
Nobody cares about Jonah Hill.
The girls look bored AF.
We have talked about Jonah Hill for quite a while.
You know, we just had to wrap it up, but yeah, we're pretty much done on the Jonah Hill thing, I reckon, unless.
No Arabs.
What?
Somebody in the chat said what type of horse, if they're Arabs, she's a red flag.
I thought you were talking about men.
That's a feminist.
It's a breed of horse.
Arabians are.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot to say about Jonah Hill.
I mean, I think the big thing, the big thing, you know, since you're so bored, the chat's bored of the, is, look, who knows what happens in the relationship?
Maybe she has some valid points.
Maybe he has some valid points.
Ultimately, though, the greater faux pas was publicly exposing this non-story where it just looks really bad on you.
You're like dragging Jonah Hill for no reason.
He just had a kid or whatever.
Don't date a feminist either.
What's that?
Don't date a feminist.
Moral of the story.
Don't date.
And don't be a male feminist as well.
Any disagreements with that?
No disagreement here.
No disagreement over here either.
I am not a feminist.
Good, good.
Show of hands.
Who here.
Oh, hold on.
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They don't want to derail me.
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Thank you very much.
Show of hands.
Who here is a feminist?
Anybody?
It's a good question.
Because there are different waves of pipeline of like whatever makes you a feminist.
Well, I mean, originally, feminism, what they said it was, but there was different strains at that time as well, was that it was, they wanted equality.
So they wanted the right to vote.
They wanted the right to be able to, you know, education, do what men could do, be able to open bank accounts, be able to own property, which they could do.
Not as much.
When you say they, you mean women?
Yes.
Yes.
I wouldn't call myself a feminist, but I have heard that feminism means equality, not just for women, but for everyone.
Everyone should be afraid of it.
No, no.
Feminism is about women.
It's a women's movement.
But this is the thing.
These days, a lot of these different movements get sort of intertwined, like the trans and the Black Lives Matter and the feminist.
And then you've got your second wave feminist, which is like, we can do anything a man can do.
And then you've got your third wave feminist, which is like, we hate men.
So there's different sort of lines of feminism.
Once upon a time, I would have been a feminist.
I mean, I wouldn't, yeah, yeah, hating on any person is, like, not.
There's like the new bimbo feminists.
Oh, my God.
What is that?
Yeah.
Can you explain that?
I'm not a lot of people.
A lot of women right now are trying on TikTok, especially.
Oh, go ahead.
They're trying to act, like they are smart women, but they're trying to act stupid on purpose because they like, as empowerment, like sexual empowerment.
So they're sort of reversing it.
So it'll be women who often have like bleached blonde hair, really big breasts, wearing pink, like Barbie tiktops, gray tan, and they proudly say that they're bimbos or you're bimboizing yourself or bimboization.
And they're feminists and it's called bimbo.
They're bimbo feminists.
But this is supposed to be like a positive thing?
Yeah, they're saying it's empowering because guys just want them so much, basically.
We have a very based panel tonight.
So I guess the question here would be what turns you off from feminism?
If you guys could give like a what turns you off from feminism?
Yeah, so I think that feminism now, this like second, third, and maybe fourth wave feminism, I don't know what wave we're on currently, but there's a fourth, I've heard.
Okay.
The future is female, this narrative.
Yes.
If the future is female, there is no future.
I agree.
It's all about demasculating men, I believe.
And I think it's resulted in the destruction of the nuclear family, and that's why nobody wants to get married, less people are having kids.
But to say that women don't need men, I think, is a very horrible statement.
I think men and women complement each other, and they both need each other.
And we're completely different for positive and amazing reasons.
I agree.
It's very based.
And, you know, I think you're right about that.
What do you think?
I think that what turns me off about that in a lot of movements nowadays is that people aren't really fighting for equality.
They're fighting to be more seen or better than everyone else.
I think everyone, if you're fighting for equality, you're not going to try and have like, oh, make yourself more than exactly.
Yeah, the future is female.
I think it's more, I mean, it's male and female.
I love men.
I think men are great.
And I think that we are interdependent.
And I know I depend on a lot of different men in my life for many different things.
And that's a blessing to me.
I do believe in the equal treatment of people because I feel like human persons all have equal dignity no matter who they are or how they identify.
But I do hesitate to use the label feminist because of what is attached to it and the confusion around it.
And so I just steer clear of it.
Such a base panel.
So much femininity in the room.
My testosterone's going to spark.
Yeah, can we argue about something?
I feel like it's just too, it's too agreeable.
Does anybody see your time?
Does anybody have any hot takes that they want to throw out there?
On feminism or just no, just in general.
Can I ask the panel, would you agree?
This is going to be the most milquetoast question after my statement, but go ahead.
Milquetoast?
Like vanilla?
Just go ahead.
Would you Save by the bell.
Sorry, Curtis, I'm going to re-trigger it here.
Hold on.
Ask your question.
Would you ladies date a man who made less than you?
Maybe even you made double than what he did.
The TTS is about to come in, but.
No.
No.
I would say I already have like a cunk of them.
No.
No.
Would you, okay, we'll go around the table on this.
We'll start with Burke.
So the question is, would you date a guy who makes less than you?
Yeah.
Okay.
Curtis and I'm going to be able to do that.
You guys aren't getting off that easy.
The female prison guard is Hulk Hogan, born with no conjugal visits.
She threatens to throw you to the wolves if you don't.
You are on suicide watch, so don't even try to use that.
I will pray for you.
So this is for us, I think.
Curtis.
So the female guard prisoner is Hulk Hogan with a, you know, want with a dick, I guess we can just say that.
That's not a female brother.
Yeah.
That's not a female.
Yeah.
What is the blanked out with a Martin donated $100?
Burke, a few pre-flight logistics.
You appear to be 5'7 inches and 124 pounds.
Need to verify these stats as I'm 6'2 inches, 210 pounds.
Need to ensure that when I throw you up in the air and catch you with my tongue, that we both avoid injury.
Woo!
Okay.
Your response, Burke.
I am 5'6, 115 pounds, so I think that sounds perfect.
Okay.
Spicy.
So to go back to Curtis, Curtis, can you just clarify what is the blanked out?
Hulk Hogan born with a.
How many stars is it?
It's six stars.
What is what would be censored that's six stars?
Hulk Hogan born with a vagina.
Maybe.
There you go.
With a vaginine?
Wait, no, that's five characters.
Six.
No, that's six.
Vagina.
Vagina.
Oh, vagina.
Okay, okay.
That's what it's called.
Okay, Hulk Hogan born with a vagina.
If it's not Hulk Hogan, then, you know, it's nothing.
If you're in for life and you don't get conjugal visits, then Hulk it is.
Man's got to eat.
Facts.
I'm not on judgment.
It's a pretty bad situation.
It's a pretty bad situation.
Not ideal, but.
WrestleMania.
All right, here we go.
I love.
Pussy's pussy.
You know what I'm saying?
Okay, I guess.
Just close your eyes.
It'll be fine.
All right, brother.
What is this?
What is Hulk's press?
Halia, brother.
Just don't sleep.
Bit of duct tape on your mouth.
Close your eyes.
That's a pretty shitty situation.
I mean, brother, Curtis, thank you for that.
So, your question was to the panel: would you date a guy who makes less than you?
So we'll go around the table on this.
Go ahead.
So, like I said earlier, at my age, 26, obviously, if I was like way older, I would want the man to be making a nice amount of money to provide for me and our future family, whatever.
But as I was saying earlier, I find it very, very attractive when they have the drive to make that money.
And I know not everyone succeeds, but it's just like it's so attractive to me with someone that has that obviously.
Age group are you talking about?
What age group do you look for in a man?
I don't have a specific age group, honestly, but like but I don't necessarily like saying that I am attracted to someone that makes a certain amount of money because like if you had to give an average of the last three guys you've been seeing, what's the average age, do you think?
Like in their like 20s, like middle.
Where am I?
Yeah.
So like my age, I was seeing someone that was 30.
I'm 26.
26.
So a guy about 30.
If he's 30 and he's got the drive, but he doesn't have those Benjamins, is that acceptable or is that unacceptable?
Because you have to understand, it is tough out here.
Yeah.
Like when you walk around LA and you like, I don't understand how people live in Los Angeles and just make a normal wage.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
Like it's it's so expensive.
And like life is only getting more expensive.
Inflation is only getting worse.
I don't know if you guys have noticed, but over the last 20, 15 years or whatever, it's only getting worse.
People used to be able to buy a house off a one person salary.
So like it's all well and good to say like drive, but life is going to be fucking miserable if you don't have money.
I agree.
And you look like a girl who likes the finer things.
I do.
I do like to be spoiled.
Well then drive won't spoil.
So I would prefer for the man to be making more money, but like if I met someone that was making less than me and he made me happy and like could provide me with things and like sexual chemistry is there.
I think this is another product of why feminism ruins everything.
Because I think that like feminism also is like, like says that like gold diggers, women who want to sort of just marry a man for his resources.
And I don't think that there's anything wrong with that.
Like women have also women have always since the beginning of time looked for security and looked for a man with resources.
And then men have always looked for youth, beauty and fertility since the absolute beginning of time.
But now I feel like women are so afraid to just say, yeah, I want a guy who has resources and who can look after me.
I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
But women are so hesitant to say that.
Yeah, I mean I would love to be taken care of and like protected, but I'm also, I can also take care of myself too.
So if I found someone that genuinely made me happy and we could do things together that I'm passionate about, that he's passionate about, I wouldn't push him away because he doesn't make that money.
So it's not the be all and end all, but if the other ducks were to align, you'd look at it a bit like...
Yeah, like I would prefer for a man to take care of him.
You could conceptually not have a man who makes a lot of money.
Let's allow the rest of the panel to answer.
What about you?
I mean, I like, I'm pretty sure I'm on the same page as Burke about that.
Like, it's not going to deter me from talking to you or dating you or whatever.
I've had experiences in my own past where I've been definitely pulling in everything.
And it didn't make him look any less worse in my eyes.
But at the same time, like, yeah, I would prefer more, but I'm not going to not give someone a chance due to that either.
You know, everybody has their time.
We're like, I might be down at some point and want you to pull up and put in the work where I did before.
Whatever.
What about you?
No.
I want them to make more money than me.
Realistically, the relationships I've been in, maybe like let's count the last past three, I've been the breadwinner and they hate it every single time.
It makes them feel like not as manly.
And you know, as much as guys are probably going to hate that, being like, oh yeah, she wants a car.
She's a gold digger, you know?
But like realistically, like, you know, when I'm older, I want to invest in money.
I want to own my own store.
And I don't want to be doing OnlyFans anymore.
So I would like my man to take care of me and, you know, insurance, make sure you're stable enough to take care of the kids and, you know, the house.
And, you know, I'm going to get my bread on the side with my store and you're going to get your bread with however you're making your money.
Do you think that the OnlyFans is hindering your ability to be able to do that?
1000%.
It's hard to be in a relationship as a contract.
What's your thought process on the trade-off that you've done there?
So you've done a trade-off where you've traded your market value by putting your body on the internet.
So what's the thought process in terms of making that trade-off?
Because it seems like a significant trade-off to make.
You're dating market value?
Um, well.
If that is what you want in the future, a man to look after you.
I mean, realistically, most men don't like OnlyFans girls.
They don't like, you know, their women putting their body out.
So with your knowledge of that, so you understand that concept, which is good, but why do you do it then?
Why do you do OnlyFans if you're sacrificing your future prospects?
Because it's not necessarily what I do for money or what I do as my job right now doesn't necessarily make me as a person as a whole.
Like, I'm not just an OnlyFans girl.
I'm not just Mistress Mandy.
I'm Amanda and, you know, me.
That's how I am.
I'm not, you know, full sex worker all the time.
You know, if it's a client, then it's a client.
I'm work duty.
But, you know.
I've got no like judgment whatsoever because like I said, it is hard out here.
People need to do what they need to do these days to be able to get by and make money.
But it's not just, I'm not doing it just to get by.
I chose to do this.
I wasn't pressured.
I wasn't.
And that's what I'm asking.
You chose to do this because do you think what I'm asking is, do you think it's worth it for your future prospects?
And the fact that you could like it could be a repulsive thing for somebody who potentially would look at you as a partner long term, but now doesn't, because you do only fans.
That doesn't bother you.
That's a personal problem.
Honestly, I feel like I've had partners who have accepted it and who are fine with what I do.
It just didn't work out.
And then I have some partners where I wanted to be with them but they didn't want to be with me because of I what I did.
But, like I said, it's just a personal personal preference, no judgment, no harsh feelings, but my person will accept me for whatever I do, however I am.
How do you, how do you frame it?
So if you're in a relationship and say you start seeing somebody because, as guys, this is, this is not a trivial thing to have your like girl have her body on the internet.
It's not a trivial thing whatsoever.
So how do you frame it like when you guys have that initial conversation, if you're seeing each other?
Well, most of the time, people have my Instagram so they automatically see the link in my bio.
Yeah okay, but you know I do have that conversation firsthand before I even get into anything with a person.
I make sure.
Hey, you know I am a full sin creator on OnlyFans.
I hope you know that I'm not gonna stop that.
I'm not gonna.
You know, just drop my Instagram.
You said before that you, you find men with boundaries more attractive, right?
Don't you think that would be a boundary for a man that you might find attractive?
Yeah, I've had relationships in the past who weren't okay.
After knowing that I did have it and I completely was like you know what respectable, and I stopped doing OnlyFans completely and then they fucked me over so I started my shitty.
Let's continue moving along with this question and if we can try to get this everyone's answer without constant, you know, go ahead.
No, I would not date a man that makes less than me, I mean, even so, like part of the reason that I decided to take my career like, toward cosmetology and hair, was knowing that that's something that I, if I want to, can go fall back on.
But the plan is honestly, to have a family and be able to be at home with the kids and and take care of things there.
I think, like I said, like naturally men are, men are the providers and women are more nurturing, and I mean it's just kind of biology.
When it comes down to it, I would not date someone who makes less money than me.
Just, I really enjoy the drive and I like to be with someone who has ambition and pushes me to want to work for more.
So that's kind of just what I go after as someone with a hard work ethic, and I know that everyone's saying like yeah people, some people fail, but it's the part of getting back up and keeping on trying and keeping on going for that goal that's super attractive to you.
I'm really shocked by everyone's answers.
I think I would date a man who makes less than me.
I think I'm probably going to have to date a man that makes less than me because I'm going to be making a good amount of money.
Well, hold on, expand on that a little bit.
You're going to be making a lot of money.
What do you mean?
Doing what?
Because right now.
As a pilot.
Oh, as a pilot?
Yeah.
How much do pilots make?
You start off at about 90K and then in the middle of it, about $250.
Towards the end of your career, you're talking about the power of the public.
Are you talking commercial pilot?
Commercial, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, so like if we're talking the big three, which is the only thing I'm going to go through.
What's the big three?
Delta American United.
Okay.
Yeah.
Like Hawaiian Airlines.
Hawaiian Airlines?
You're still making six figures.
Yeah.
Well, you said by the end of the career, you're making $250K?
No, that's like middle of career.
Mid-career.
So by the time, what, you're 45?
40, you're going to be a bad career?
I'd say like 35?
35 pilots are making 250K?
I mean, if you get into it young, I'm young.
I'm going to be in the airline and I'm going to be flying airline in like two years.
Have you flying planes now?
I do fly planes now as a student.
Like charter planes sort of thing?
You're 24, correct?
I'm 24, yeah.
Okay.
So, okay.
Is that true?
Chad, is that true that pilots make by 35, they make 250k?
But look at how much debt then is there in time spent for schooling.
That's true.
Is that true, Chad?
What's the average, like average commercial pilot's income?
Am I?
So while people are getting their mile, their flight miles for especially their commercial pilot's license, you're actually teaching a lot as well.
Yeah.
So it's sometimes it pays for itself.
Yeah, the smallest, dinkiest starter airlines are hiring brand new fresh out of school $90,000 for pilots to be a pilot.
All right.
Well, even, okay, let's assume it's true, right?
So you want to be a pilot.
Okay, there's a lot there.
But you said you are willing to date a guy who makes less than you.
And you think, frankly, it's going to be difficult for you to find a guy who's going to make as much as you will make.
Is that correct?
Yeah, and I think the guys, I think you become a slave to money once you start making too much.
And so I think it's hard to find a wealthy person who has strong morals and values.
I'd be willing to take the pay cut for someone who shares my morals and values.
Do you think wealthy people have less morals and values?
I've seen it firsthand.
Comparatively to people who aren't wealthy?
I've seen their values be put in the wrong places.
And like I said, I think you become a slave to money.
As a general rule, though, you think that people who have resources have less morals?
Generally.
Sounds like the lib hasn't quite died in you.
I've been around that community.
I've seen it firsthand.
It's not a blanket statement.
It's just very clear.
You see, I find that in order to get to the top, there's a misconception that you have to stand on people's heads.
And that does happen, obviously.
But in order to get to the top, you also have to provide value.
And you have to solve problems.
And you have to hire people.
And you have to know how to manage relationships.
And you have to know how to bring value in many different ways.
Yeah, that's fair.
I don't think stepping on people to get to the top is a bad thing.
That's just the industry.
But I see people care more about cars, purses, materialistic things.
And they're so focused on these materialistic things and not focused on their families, spending time with their families.
They take so much time to work that they neglect their wives, they neglect their children.
So you think people who are more wealthy and have more resources tend to have less time, so less time for their families.
Yeah, because once you start making a ton of money, you just can't stop.
You always want more.
But also people who are struggling for money are working a lot of jobs and usually both of the people in the household and the time is very slim with the family and that's what they have to do.
I don't know that it's necessarily matters how much money you make.
The other thing is just because someone can't afford nice things doesn't mean that they aren't constantly focused on it and it doesn't mean that they don't have to be a lot of people.
If they are given the money, that their mindset is like that as well.
So I think money can inflate that and show that.
But I think it would be unfair to say that people who are well off or have money have poor values or especially morals.
Well in any case disregarding whether people who are wealthy or not wealthy, you know, not making a conversation about assessing their moral character.
So you want to be a pilot and you anticipate you will end up making more than your partner.
Yeah, I hope not, but that may very well be the case.
My bigger question with you being a pilot is, I mean, I know you talked about most of the people that you've dated, you fly to them.
Do you think it makes for a stable relationship to be constantly gone from your significant other?
Because as a pilot, you assume you would be in a different city, what?
Two-thirds of the year?
Oh, you can very easily manage it.
I actually dated a pilot, and he would just do one international trip a week.
And so he was just gone for two days out of the week and home five days out of the week.
Red flag.
I think.
Well, okay, so for example, I've said this before.
I think, for example, a flight attendant is a red flag in terms of like a career that a potential partner.
I feel like I've pretty much reduced my options down to like 2% of women with all the red flags I'm aware of.
But as a flight attendant or as a pilot, you're constantly, and I know you said perhaps not in your case, but you're always in a new city.
So like for me, if I was to date a flight attendant, well, I just wouldn't want to because I just feel like there's such an opportunity for infidelity under those circumstances.
Maybe that's me being like insecure or whatever.
But it's like, even if we're in a committed relationship and there's not an opportunity for infidelity, my understanding is that you're in a new city every week, only there for a couple days.
Because for example, I'll match with girls who are flight attendants on dating apps.
Well, I'm not on any dating apps right now, but when I used to be, I'd match with a girl who's on a dating app and she's a flight attendant.
Oh, you're in town for a day and you're on a dating app.
Okay, what are you looking for then?
You must be looking for casual sex because you're in town for two days.
Why are you on the dating app?
What is the only option available to you?
Casual sex.
So my assumption is people who are like flight attendants and pilots probably fuck a lot.
That's my impression.
Yeah, absolutely.
There's a very sexually rampant culture within the airline industry.
I advise people not to date pilots or flight attendants unless you meet them.
Except you.
No, no, no.
Unless there's always going to be exception, right?
If you look at them and you're like, this is some of the most outstanding moral values, like truly the best you've ever seen, I'd say don't go for it because it's insane the things that happen.
Fair enough.
Well, I had another thing here.
Just really to touch on this very quickly.
Actually, I'll come back to it, but we'll continue going around.
Would you date a guy who makes less than you?
I would not date a man who makes less than me.
It's not that simple with me.
I also want him to have a pretty solid net worth and a high credit score and no irresponsible debt and to make a certain amount of money.
That's reasonable.
That's based though.
It's because like, no offense or anything, but as you get a little bit older, you start to be able to define what you want a lot more, right?
Yeah, I mean, I'll go out on a lot of dates with men and I will end things over.
various financial factors that to me are red flags.
Such as one person that I dated recently was 51 because I'm 39, so I'll date me.
I don't know if I would date younger, maybe if he was like a super solid 35 year old, so I'll say like 35 to 55, I probably date.
And by the time you are in your 50s, to me, you need to have established net worth.
You should have investments in the stock market and or real estate.
Crypto doesn't count because it's too volatile.
And you should know how to manage your money.
And that's why I feel like the credit score is important because people can make a lot of money and waste a lot of money.
And to me, that's also not attractive.
So like he needs to have financial literacy and be successful and hold it all together and make more than me.
See, I respect that a lot.
I think a lot of people would look at that and be like, oh, you've got so demanding or whatever.
Well, that's fine.
But I think that if girls, if women were to lay out those sorts of things, it would encourage men to be better in that regard with financial literacy, especially in this country.
Financial literacy is really not a thing.
When I was looking around LA, I was thinking, if you guys did two things, if you replaced all of the weird sexual stuff that's being taught to kids in school and all the racism that's being taught to kids in school, and you replace that with macronutrients and financial literacy, it would solve a lot of problems in your country.
Teach them from a young age.
I also think a lot of relationship problems are because of finance, and especially in marriage, that's why a lot of people get divorced.
So being able to talk about that in the first few dates is really important.
If a guy didn't want to pay on a first date, if he didn't pick up the tab, is that one of the red flags or deal breakers for you?
I just wouldn't go on a second date, but I wouldn't make a thing about it.
It's just not the person for me.
Sure, fair enough.
What about you?
Me?
Yeah.
Which question?
Would you date a guy who makes less than you?
Well, I'm pre-law, so I anticipate that I'm going to be making a good amount of money in a certain amount of time.
So you kind of what?
I'm pre-law.
Going to be off your wife?
Pre-law.
Pre-law.
Pre-law, okay.
Sorry.
What kind of law do you want to go into?
Sports and entertainment.
Sports and entertainment.
Okay.
I originally wanted to do constitutional law, though.
But yeah, I anticipate making a good amount of money.
So I would definitely prefer for them to be making more money than myself.
But if it were a comparable amount, that'd be fine.
When you say comparable, do you mean similar to them?
Similar.
Okay, because I've heard some study, and maybe you might be familiar with this.
Women will say they want a guy who makes the same as them, but really that means like 56%.
They want a guy who actually makes 56% more than them.
No, I'd like to keep it within like 10%.
Whoa, oh, you're saying that that means that they need to be making 56% more than they do.
Is that what you're saying?
I forgot the exact wording on this.
Maybe someone in the chat can help me out.
So no, I'll be more specific.
If they make within like 10, 15% of what I make, then that would be fine.
In either direction?
I mean, if it's above, then go all out.
But below, I would say within like 10, 15%.
Okay.
What about you?
I would date someone who makes less than me, but I don't think I would marry someone who makes less than me because I want to be a stay-at-home mom.
I want to work, but like very little, just because you have to do a lot in the house, and I want a lot of kids.
Hell yeah.
Just a reminder: so, who said that they would date a guy who makes less than them?
Just show of hands, you would date a guy who makes less than them.
Show of hands.
I need to scoot in here.
Would you?
Well, I would date.
Would you?
But then, what's the point of dating if you're not going to marry?
Hold on.
Would you be okay with a stay-at-home dad?
So you're the 100% breadwinner and he's just stay-at-home dad taking care of the kids?
That's a little, that's a little bit of a reach.
Like, it would be, I don't know.
Okay.
It wouldn't be a no.
Picture this situation.
You come home from a long day of work, you're stressed, and your man is at home, and he's got dinner on the stove for you, and he's wearing a little pink apron.
Thank you.
Yeah, and he's wearing his pink apron, and then he has to go and do the grocery shopping, so he has to ask you for the credit card.
And then he jumps in your car to go and drive to the shopping center to use your credit card.
Imagine, imagine how miserable he would be.
He's miserable?
Yes.
If my husband is.
He would pull over and scream.
If my husband is like stay-at-home dad and I'm the breadwinner, my husband has his own car, my husband has his own card, my husband is set just like I would say.
But it's your money as well.
We all know it's your money.
And that's fine as long as you're taking care of my kids.
Our kids.
I don't know.
Like, if that's like the full city.
I think in practice, you'd be pretty off it.
A man who takes care of his family is not sexy.
Taking care of your family as a man isn't being a stay-at-home dad.
Taking care of your family.
Providing financially.
I think you underestimate the bond that you form with a child, especially when they're young.
When they're born, you need to be glued to them.
Like, they need you 24-7.
Yeah, as a mother.
It's just not practical, especially when they're young, to have a stay-at-home dad while you work.
Well, I mean, I would be there, like, obviously, after I'm done giving birth, I would be there for a certain amount of time.
But, you know, if I'm the breadwinner, I'm going to work and make sure my family's getting fed.
Proverbs 21, 19 donated $100.
Better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife.
Based.
Sure.
Word.
Yeah.
Thank you, Proverbs 21.19.
Word.
Okay.
So what I'd like to do at this point is I had a couple notes for each of you here.
Some of you provided some pre-show information.
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It's one of the tabs.
One of the early ones.
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Okay, so let's see.
I had some notes here.
We have Taja.
So just going back to what you said before, you said you used to be a hardcore leftist atheist feminist.
But now you are recently a conservative born-again Christian.
When you say born-again, are you waiting until marriage to have zys-sex?
I am.
But you're not a virgin.
Correct.
But you're born-again, virgin.
I wouldn't put it that way, but yeah.
How would you put it?
Well, I'm just saving myself for marriage from now on out.
Okay.
You can't really reclaim virginity.
What was the catalyst for all of this, might I ask?
Aw, man, there was a lot.
I think dating a cop made me realize a lot of the BLM stuff is ridiculous.
Going to France changed.
Yeah.
France?
Yeah, France changed me a lot because France is ahead of us in their progressiveness.
It's real weird out there.
The gender roles are completely reversed.
Like the guys are staying at home cooking and cleaning in the south of France where it's very liberal.
The north is different.
But the women are like players and sexually promiscuous and the guys like really want commitment.
And it's just so reversed.
It's actually a cultural thing with French is that the women tend to have like a sod pace.
Yeah.
Women have side pieces?
Yeah.
Yeah.
See, I was born in France.
I didn't know about this shit.
Brian.
French women are.
Okay, let's not say that.
Adventurous?
Dirty.
So France is like in flames at the moment.
So did you see the inflames?
Like there's been riots the last few weeks.
Yeah.
RIP the motherland.
Is France the motherland or the fatherland?
I guess it's my fault because my dad's from France.
The motherland.
The mother has a son.
Because isn't Russia the fatherland?
Chat, how do you decide if it's fatherland or motherland?
How do you decide?
If your mom or dad is from there.
So my mom's from Italy, so Italy's my motherland.
Oh, okay.
I didn't know it was that simple.
Okay, so it's my fatherland.
Yeah, France is a failed society.
Yeah, it's going down the drain.
There's a lot of other countries that are getting all.
Anyways, let's not get political, but okay, so born again.
Did you used to have, like, did you have a hoe phase or what?
Like, were you super crazy before?
No, my hoe phase was like kissing people in clubs and not going further.
So, yeah.
What made you miserable about being a liberal atheist?
I think as, well, the atheists, I'll focus on the liberal first.
So liberalism, you're just constantly angry and offended.
And I believe there's a lot more racism in the left than on the right, and that a lot of well-intentioned things, but the road to hell is paved on good intentions.
yeah it's very regressive like this idea that black people can't well we won't get into we won't get into politics um We can get it a little bit.
How do you feel, Brian?
A quick tidbit on politics.
What specific political topic are we talking about here?
Black people.
Bro, what?
I'm 40% Nigerian, so I feel like I can claim the black is the political topic you wish to discuss is black.
This could go so many ways.
Yeah, I'm going to pass on that one.
I'm going to take a pass on that one.
Okay, well, we'll exclude any race.
The idea of oppression, I think, is very harmful when you're telling people your country hates you, you have opportunity stripped from you, when really that's not the case.
Like, we're born in a country that we can do so much no matter where you came from.
I came from, I came from the Styx.
I came from the Boolex.
I agree, very much agree.
And here I am, like, in the pilot field.
Like, it's, it's, yeah, I think it's ridiculous.
I think it's very harmful to tell children, especially, that you are disadvantaged purely for something that you cannot control.
And I think it does a lot to their Mental capacity to be able to see themselves as somebody that's going to provide value to society.
I think it really, really harms kids, especially.
It becomes self-fulfilling prophecy.
Absolutely.
I did a video yesterday where we went to Santa Monica Pia and we were just interviewing people and we were asking if they think that if they think America's racist, every one of them said yes.
And I couldn't believe it because America, I could believe it, but like America is so overtly non-racist.
It's just a complete melting pot of all different people all coexisting together.
And one of the girls was telling me that she's from Nigeria and she said she came over when she was like eight and that she was, she thought she was making a good point to me, but what she was saying was that she had no idea about racism until she went to school and the school taught her all about racism.
And I was like, and I said to herself, I was like, so you never knew about it, and then the school taught you about it.
And then she couldn't quite put two and two together.
But there's some serious indoctrination happening in this country.
Absolutely.
That's something close to what I went through.
I came here when I was eight, so like I didn't understand any, even like the bullying, like the verbal bullying.
I don't know.
I'm like, that doesn't make sense.
All right, I'm walking away.
So I have a couple more notes here for each people.
We have Priya here.
You wanted to talk about dating someone with kids and how drug use affects relationships and also age gaps or age differences in relationships.
So did you date someone with kids?
I have dated somebody with kids, yes.
How old was he?
Older guy?
Yes, he was 10 years older than me.
And just a reminder, you are 22?
Yes.
Okay.
So he was, well, maybe this was a couple years back or.
No, this was my most recent relationship just under a year ago.
Okay, so he was 31, you were 21?
Yes.
And he had kids.
Okay.
And he also, so he, there's an age gap.
He had kids and he did drugs.
Is that correct?
No, no, no, no.
The drugs was a different meth?
Heroin?
No.
What drugs do you take?
I do not do any drugs.
I've never touched any sort of drug.
I do not support drugs whatsoever.
I think they are incredibly harmful.
The boyfriend that you were dating did drugs.
Yes.
And you helped, you bought his, you didn't partake, but you bought the drugs for him.
No.
Was it meth or heroin?
It was not either.
Pills?
Benzos?
Pills.
No, I started dating him and then found out about the drug habits about two months into the relationship.
Was going to break up with him when I found out, and he begged me to stay with him.
I did, believing exactly what he told, exactly what he wanted me to hear.
I want to change.
I don't want to live this lifestyle.
I don't want to just do it for you, but I want to do it for me too.
And it was good for a while.
And then eventually he broke up with me because he believed I judged him for his partying habits.
God forbid I cared about his well-being.
But yeah, that was a different situation than the one with the kids.
Word.
Here, let's talk about the age gap one.
So that was your biggest age gap relationship.
You said it was 10 years.
Correct, yeah.
Would you do it again?
Yeah, I would do it, the age gap.
The kids, no.
Kids, yeah, I can see that.
Yeah.
We'll go around the table on this, and we'll start with Grace, actually.
Would you date someone significantly older than you, say like 10, 15 years older than you?
I'm not sure because I look very young, so I feel like I would feel like a baby in that relationship.
And it depends.
If it's a really great guy and we vibe and I feel really comfortable and at home, then yeah.
But I'm also in a very, very happy relationship right now.
If you were single.
But yeah, if I was single.
I would consider it.
It just really depends on the chemistry.
I don't really look at age unless it's like creepy.
Like if he gives me creep vibes.
Sure.
What about you?
You date?
Yeah, the oldest, the biggest age gap I've had is 21 years.
He was 21 years my senior.
Okay, good times.
So what was the age breakdown?
Like you were, what, 35?
He was 50?
I was 37?
37?
Okay.
Wait, he was 59, so how old?
So yeah, I was like 39.
Yeah, I was 30.
22.
30.
No.
He was like 59.
22.
49, 49.
No.
What?
Wait.
Is my math wrong here?
37 to 59 is 22.
Like 59 to 49, 49 to 39.
22.
22.
39.
Yeah, that's 22.
40.
Yeah, my mom.
I'm trying to questioning my math over here.
No.
If he's 60, and he was 20 years older than me, that would make me 40.
So he was 59.
So I was only like 37 or 38.
So 22 year age gap.
22 year age gap.
21 or 22.
I wasn't in my 20s.
This was like two years ago.
Yep.
And he was going to turn 60.
Word, what about you?
Age gap, yes or no?
Would do it.
How much?
I actually prefer age gap.
I like the 10-year age gap, but you just got to be careful because the older you get, the more baggage you got.
Okay.
Agreed.
Yeah, I would date older.
I typically stay within my age range, or my age group, but you know, I'm open to different things.
I would date older.
As far as kind of the age gap goes, I do prefer someone probably a minimum of three years older than I am, just because I'm young, and honestly, I'd be looking to settle down sooner than a lot of people, I guess, are in my age range.
I would maybe go up to like seven or eight years older.
I don't know if I'd hit 10.
It kind of just depends on kind of what Grace is saying with chemistry and the person specifically, because you do have to watch out for a lot of creepers.
It happens to older guys sometimes.
Would you date Henry Cavill?
No.
You wouldn't date Henry?
Do you know who that is?
I mean, I don't, like, just celebrities in general.
I don't know.
We pull them up.
Yeah, we get.
Nick, can you do a little Google search for our boy Henry Kaville?
Cavill?
How do you say that shit?
I don't know.
While he does that.
It's probably going to be a no.
Okay.
What about you?
Sorry.
Yeah, I would date guys older than me.
I wouldn't date someone younger than me.
Okay, got it.
My biggest age gap is probably like I was 21 and he was 42.
Okay.
And then youngest was like, I don't know, like more recently.
Oh, you've gone the opposite direction?
I have.
And like, what youngest was like 24.
Oh, I thought you were about to say some weird shit.
No, no.
I've kept 25, 26 is like youngest.
I'm 29.
Yeah, yeah.
So.
Okay.
That's like the youngest that can be acceptable for me because like I said.
Sure.
Sure.
Do you have the photo, Nick?
Boom.
This is Henry Cavill.
Superman.
Superman.
Yeah.
Geralt?
Fuck.
What's the witcher?
How do you say Geralt?
Is it Geralt?
Geralt?
Gerald?
Geralt?
I don't watch the French one I'm so I'm so bad with the faces to names but a couple weeks ago I was talking to some friends about celebrities and he came up and what you did him No.
No?
Come on.
Stop the cap.
He plays World of Warcraft.
Does that change anything?
Probably less likely for me to date him.
That's very unfortunate.
Burke, what about you?
Age?
Here.
Yeah, I would definitely date kind of what Grace was saying.
If we vibe, we vibe.
I would go like maybe a year younger than me, but not really much younger than that.
And then just because maturity, but yeah, definitely would date someone older than me.
And if we vibe, we vibe.
If we get along, you make me happy.
You can please me.
Then I'm done.
Yeah.
Definitely been like people that are older and you expect a certain like behavior from them and it doesn't matter like how much older they get.
So I would compare the part where it's like dating older people is like, oh, sure proof of like, it's going to be good.
Like, no, like a lot of people like still at like even 60s like are not.
Well, I also think something to take into consideration, at least for myself, is for men and women when each of them hit their prime, like what age is, what age that looks at.
I know for women it's like mid-20s and for men it's more so in their 30s I think.
So even from like again, I brought this up like the biological standpoint, it kind of just makes sense to go for a little bit of an age gap there.
I mean and that age gaps actually naturally manifest.
I mean I think it's typically a two like I think the average is two to three years.
I don't know if you know what the yeah like typically I think the age of well also the age of first marriage it's younger for women than it is for men.
So I think that's another kind of manifestation.
I think it makes sense particularly in the modern day because with like the way that the market's going it's a little bit harder for men to create resources.
So if a man waits until he's 35 and then he checks up with a woman who's say 25 or so because girls are obviously waiting a little bit more these days as well.
I think that 35 and 25 is like a perfect sort of age range.
I think there's also a biological component to it as well.
Well yeah I mean so there's the are you talking about like fertility?
Yeah fertility but also I mean just in a general sense I think that the majority of women in terms of wanting to settle down and kind of understanding what they want out of a relationship tend to figure that out a little bit earlier in life than men do.
And yeah I think if women are looking for commitment and looking to settle down and start a family I think they're going to be looking for men that are typically a little bit older than them.
Any boss babes here who have their eggs frozen?
No.
Got any boss babes just freezing their eggs or anything?
Okay, let's see here.
We have Miss Aubrey Rowe.
She said a lot of people also act one way but expect unrealistic results to their actions.
I think hookup culture is toxic and whether women want to admit it or not for word Brian.
What's that?
You don't have to read a word for not verbatim.
I mean you can.
I just put it out there like pretty boldly on there.
I mean you can read it word for it.
I just kind of threw out she's saying we're women are the gatekeepers of sex or hookup culture.
So basically what you're saying is women are to blame for hookup culture.
You're such a misogynist, Aubrey.
Yeah, honestly, I just hate women.
You're like a raging misogynist.
How dare you?
No, honestly, the reason I kind of put it like that is because I was like, oh, I'm just going to throw it out there.
Can you do that again?
Is that your throwing motion?
That's me throwing.
Okay.
I'm a girl.
I throw like a girl.
That's why.
Fair enough.
Checks out.
Because I'm a misogynist, so of course I have to say that.
Okay, no, as far as the expectations go, what I find a lot is like there are a lot of women who do want to settle down.
They do want to eventually have a family, but they wait so late and then it's kind of too late.
Or it's kind of just biologically, but also it's like what you put out is what you attract.
So if you're wondering why you're not attracting these men that you're wanting to settle down with, it's maybe because you're not being the type of woman that the type of men you would want are attracted to.
And so, and then like playing that into hookup cultures, like a lot of women, like they want to, you know, early in their 20s, like they want to go clubbing and they want to go sleep around and they want to just have that party lifestyle and then settle down later later on.
But at that point, like, you know, plays into the body count.
Like, at that point, in a sense, like in different ways, their value has gone down as far as market value when it comes to dating and what the kind, like high-value men.
I don't know what we consider high-value men, even depends on the person, I guess.
But it just kind of Superman, so I guess I just think as far as like hookup culture, I mean, ultimately, like the woman, I mean, obviously there's been certain circumstances, but the woman does get to determine like if they're gonna let a man into their space in that sense.
So, and that's why I think going back to earlier with how many people each of us have slept with, right?
That it can be a lot more important for women versus men because ultimately that decision lays on the woman of whether she's gonna actually allow a man to even have a chance with her.
I have a note here from Nicole, and Nicole says, I prefer dating man, a man with a high body count, and certainly much higher than mine.
A low body count is subjective, but I suspect mine is lower than many women my age.
There are a few reasons it's attractive to me when a man has a high body count.
And as a woman, I do not aspire to have a count anywhere close to what the man I date have.
Nicole, confirm or deny.
So you like.
I wouldn't say that.
I did say that.
I wouldn't say that I own it.
I prefer that he has a really high body count, but it doesn't bother me.
And to me, there is something attractive about a man who has a high body count.
Who's just ran through?
Like, who's just ran through?
I hate the terms.
No, he's not ran through.
He did the running through.
Oh.
It doesn't bother me.
I have met men who have dated, or mean dated, who have slept with what I'm like, oh, wow, that's a lot of people, you know.
But it doesn't, in my eyes, it doesn't take away from his value.
I don't know.
It just doesn't.
I am 39, and people generally assume that I've slept with a lot more people than I have.
Fun fact, I was celibate from my late 20s until like 38, and I didn't even date.
So I had no sexual contact with men for almost a decade.
That's like a whole tangent.
But yeah, wait, hold on, wait, wait.
What was the age range?
28 to 8?
29 to like 38.
Were you in like thinking about being a nun or a nun?
I was.
Yeah.
Actually, thinking about being a nun?
Yeah, I was.
You look good in a nun outfit.
Thank you.
But I was only looking at communities that had like really, like, really pretty habits, like, no ugly ones.
Habits?
That's what they're called?
Yeah, so that was pretty radical.
So that's why I originally made that choice because I needed to know if I could live the life.
What did he do to you at 29?
That's what everyone says, but actually, that's like a very ignorant question.
But in my 20s, I've never really been drunk.
I haven't done crazy drugs.
I didn't have some.
I mean, I think my 20s were pretty like I had a few long-term boyfriends.
29 to 38.
Yeah.
Who's the fucking absolute Giga Chad who came in at 38 and he had a high body count?
Who knocked you off your fucking nearly decade long?
That was a good experience, I could say.
I want to meet a girl who hasn't had sex in nine years.
Yeah.
She's like the pent up sexual.
It would have been bells ringing.
Honestly.
So yeah, I don't know, but all I'm saying is that for me, if a man has a high body count, it's not unattractive to me.
And maybe hot take, I don't know, but I feel that the reason it's attractive for the reason why it's attractive for a woman to have a low body count and the reason it's seen as attractive or something to aspire to as a man to have a higher body count is because both of those things are difficult.
It's difficult for a man to rack up a really high body count with a lot of beautiful women.
It's hard for a woman to constantly say no when she has men coming after her.
So to me, it's more that we are as a society glorifying what is the more difficult choice for each sex.
So, and I'm not saying like morally or anything if that's right or wrong or it should be that way or not, but to me, that's what it feels like to me is we are saying that's the harder choice for that sex.
And so that's why we think like kudos.
So you're 39.
You were almost 10 years of celibacy between 29 to 38.
The guy that you broke your celibacy for, did you guys date for a while or was it a little ting?
We did.
You did?
Okay.
Months.
You guys broke up recently or it's pretty recently.
No, this would have been when I was so I just went over 39, so it was like beginning of when I was like 38.
And you said your longest relationship was two years?
Yes.
Or did you say you've been single for two years?
No, my longest relationship was two years and I've been single for a year.
Okay.
Huh.
You've been single for a year.
Okay, so the thing with the guy who broke your celibacy, were you like, when you met him, did you were you kind of looking for this to be the end of your celibacy?
No, we formed a really deep friendship.
Deep friendship.
Yeah, we formed a really like deep friendship.
Was he also trying to, was he part of the nun school or what was he called?
No.
No, he wasn't.
I just got to know him and it just formed and I just did.
It wasn't like some big thing.
Like a decision.
Yeah, it was.
It just happened.
One thing was that?
No, I made a choice.
It's not like it just happened.
I made a choice to do it.
Of course.
But it wasn't.
It's not as dramatic maybe as you're trying to make it sound.
I just found someone and I connected with them and I felt that that really strict season of celibacy for me had served its purpose and I just wasn't there anymore and that was okay.
I'm still very selective, but you don't do the nun thing.
You didn't want to date.
No?
Well they rejected me.
Stop it.
They rejected me.
Wait, so hold on.
Were you like not trying to be celibate or this was like a very intentional thing?
I was intentionally celibate.
Yeah.
Okay.
I made a choice.
Okay.
So just to bring it back, I mean, you were saying how you prefer dating a man with high body count.
Certainly much higher than yours.
Maybe we can go around the corner.
I mean, it doesn't mean, I don't mean that it needs to be high, like they need to have 100 plus.
I think you like a guy who's sexually experienced.
I think.
Who knows his way around a woman's body.
I like it.
Who can locate the clitoris?
I like it.
And if he's a good man, then those women to me, like, they don't matter.
And if I'm with a man, hold on.
Thank you, man.
Don't you guys think a huge problematic outgrowth of social media hookup culture is the destruction of female intellectualism.
The destruction of it?
Intellectualism?
The destruction of it.
Was it ever there to begin with?
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
It's a joke, guys.
Not that much.
I kid.
I kid.
I definitely don't think it's benefited it.
I don't know.
It just, it doesn't bother me.
I don't ask men how many women they've slept with just because it's irrelevant to me.
And if I'm with a man, I'm with him because I trust him.
And so I don't have insecurity with him.
I don't, like, I just don't.
It's just not a thing.
I don't know.
Word.
Word.
Yo, thank you for the super chat.
Or the TTS.
Appreciate it.
Okay.
That's news to me.
The whole nun thing.
That was confusing.
Did you have like a party phase or anything when you were younger, like college?
Did you go to some frat parties?
I would go to college parties, but I didn't drink.
So like, but I love dressing up.
So I would have like three or four costumes per Halloween and go to all the parties.
But I didn't get drunk or do drugs.
Okay.
All right.
Let's see here.
I had something.
I think that's it for most of my notes.
Okay, so let's get a couple soup chats in.
We have our good friend Woods.
Thank you, brother.
Burke, can you read this one?
Of course.
Brian, loving your content that you've been pushing out.
Thank you, man.
Representing the ZYZZ community.
The Ziz.
Yeah.
Wait, can you do this?
Australia represents this.
No, it's like this.
Here.
Wait, like the highs isn't there?
Kind of like the highs?
Do you like this?
Is this the, is this?
Oh, wait, am I doing it?
Look.
Are these gang signs?
I know.
What are you asking for?
Like this?
Austin, up in heaven.
No, like this.
Out.
And look up.
Look up.
Higher, higher.
Lift your arm.
And now say rest in peace.
What is that?
What is congratulations?
You're now gang-affiliated.
Just kidding.
Just kidding.
Go ahead.
Okay.
The Ziz community get aesthetic as always take your drugs and doses that you've been prescribed legally.
The simp in me want girl in pink with a dog in me refuses to suck.
To suck.
To suck.
Well, there's two girls wearing pink, so.
You're going to have to clarify, Mr. Woods, which one.
All right.
Can you read it?
Can you read this one?
Pour for.
Yes.
Okay.
Thoughts on men wanting to get married in a church?
Mosque, synagogue.
And with modern women being less religious, it is harder to find normal women who want that.
Dating Within Limits, dating pool.
Plus, I found a lot of those women are nuts.
So convert.
Nuts.
Women that aren't religious.
Isn't that typically where marriage occurs in a church?
Even if you're not religious, isn't that?
No.
Well, I guess there's a lot of things.
Not if you're not religious.
Not in California.
Not in California, they do that shit at the beach, I guess.
Yeah, beaches, caves, Disneyland.
I have never been to a wedding.
I just realized.
Is that a red flag?
That's a red flag.
You're like, bro, you don't have friends.
Invite Brian to your wedding.
I have never been to a wedding.
Do you know that you can hire professional bridesmaids?
Like, if you don't have friends or you don't have a made of home assessment, it's like OnlyFans, but for bridesmaids.
That shit is depressing stuff.
There was like a movie about that with Coach Hart or something.
There was.
I remember.
I love it.
It was like the best man.
Yeah, I saw it.
There was a movie about it.
That's cute.
Gorton's Fisherman.
I think everyone's fine with it.
I think that's asking.
He's asking if we would quote unquote convert or get married in the church.
I don't know.
Look, I'm Iranian and technically Muslim.
Technically.
Clearly, I'm not abiding by it.
I thought you were devoutly giveaway.
A few things.
But like I would, if I was like marrying like a someone Christian or a Catholic, you know, like I would probably say like, we'll do that whole spiel in the church.
And then like let's do like whatever like my people would do too.
And then let's call it even.
That's it.
That's a good point, Priya.
So we'll go really quickly around the table.
Would you convert, let's say, your dream man is whatever.
Because some of you might already be religious, so I'm thinking, what if he was like a different religion?
Or those of you who are atheists, let's just say he's Christian.
So would you convert for your dream guy?
I would.
I would definitely not.
I'm very, very strong in my Catholic faith.
I would not convert for a guy.
So I'm Christian.
I would convert to be Catholic, but that would be the only thing that I would be willing to convert to.
Buddhism?
No.
Jainism?
No.
Scientology?
Scientology?
Hard no.
Well, so I actually dated my longest relationship, the one who went to jail and I got out of a few months ago.
He was atheist.
And I base legitimately everything off of like God and spirituality.
So like going through that was like the worst thing.
And going into it too, like all the reasons that our relationship ended, I knew that was like going into it, why it wouldn't work out.
And still, I don't know.
I felt like I needed to gain experience on more of some of the surface level things of dating.
Yeah, but it taught me a lot, but I realized like I would never, like, first and foremost, like, you can get along.
Like, it doesn't matter how many hobbies you have in common, like, you'll learn to love their hobbies, but just like find somebody who has the same values as you do.
Like, that's the start.
That is the most important thing.
By the way, Gorton's Fisherman here.
Just want to say, don't forget the Buddhist temples, bro.
You're leaving that shit out.
Come on, man.
Please be considerate of other religions, you discriminatory fishermen.
Okay.
The real Mr. Meatball.
Thank you, man.
Why not go more into atheist, libertarian, a la Anne Rand?
Definitely much more thoughtful than flipping from one empty calorie philosophy, liberalism, to another, conservatism.
Anne Rand, are we talking about the fountainhead?
Are we talking about the what's her other book?
Atlas Shrugged.
Atlas Shrugged.
Virtue of Selfishness.
Virtue of Selfishness.
That's a good one.
Is she libertarian?
Anne Rand?
Is she libertarian?
She's like her own sort of philosophy.
Yeah.
She might be funny.
Okay.
I don't know if that's a good idea.
Super capitalist.
Like the omni-capitalist.
The real Mr. Meatball.
Actually, Bert, can I have you read this?
Yes.
Would y'all date someone who doesn't do social media and actively dresses down to not be flashy?
Yes.
Totally.
Red or green flag.
Green flag.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Dresses down?
Yeah, but defining dresses down, I mean, if you're not wearing designer labels, all that, that's perfectly inserted.
It's perfectly fine, but I want you to look clean.
I think not being able to look put together.
I like a man who dresses well.
I want him to have nice pants, nice grooming, smell good, have a nice watch, have shoes that go with it.
It doesn't need to be the most expensive, but I appreciate when a man puts his appearance.
I mean, I don't want him to intentionally make himself smaller or intentionally make himself be hidden.
That's weird to me.
I'd be like, why don't you want to take up space?
Do you dress down and still smell good and dress nice?
Yeah, I would invite you actively to dress up.
That's where I'm kind of hot ashy.
That's what I'm saying.
Do you go out in sweats and what I find?
You're out there in sweats with me.
No.
So, like, I think a lot of people will be talking about timing, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What about, let me throw something out there.
What about a guy who wears puma sweatpants?
No.
And automatically.
Broke, hold on, let me finish.
A guy who wears puma sweatpants and like a black t-shirt and a flannel.
If you're at home, you wear no to wear the sweats up where you're wearing flannel.
Are you wearing puma sweatpants?
Are you like slimmer?
I guess I happen to be wearing that.
What do the bottom of your sweats look like?
Are they a long, thick ending?
Are they like the scrunchie-looking one?
We're still talking about sweatpants.
What are we talking about?
I think that's awesome.
Bro, they're just my puma.
Have you thought about not wearing flannel?
Is Brian giving you guys red flags with the puma?
I don't necessarily think it's a red flag.
It's just not a personal preference.
I like somebody that knows how to put themselves together well.
But that being said, you don't have to spend thousands of dollars on an outfit.
Dresses the occasion.
Timing.
Where are you doing it?
Where are you not?
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, time and place for everything.
But I also think with the man with the watch, you have to flash because a man, when he shows up on a date, if he's wearing an eye watch, I get major ick.
I get major ick because the watch is like the most person.
It's the most personal accessory a man can have, his watch.
And I feel like the eye watch is like the complete opposite of that.
So like I look for men's watches on their dating profile.
So is it a red flag if they're not wearing a watch?
It's not a red flag, but when a man's wearing a real watch and not an eye watch, it gets me going some kind of way.
I think it has to do with people making tasteful choices.
And I think it's quality over quantity and that's understanding.
I do get it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like he has some taste like, or I don't know, like there's something specific that he, I don't know.
A man with a real watch is just.
I think it's what the occasion, but also like just balancing it out.
You don't have to have everything super high quality, but don't walk around looking like a bum.
But I also would want to be able to go to the supermarket and pull up in sweatpants with my singing.
Brian.
Can I ask you a question?
What's up?
So if you were to go on a date with one of us, what would you wear?
I'm not going to lie.
I would wear this shit.
Oh.
And where is it taking is that?
Would you expect us to be able to get away from the colour camping nice?
Are we going to be a little bit more damnable?
Honestly, like, so, okay, here's my thing.
Okay, come on.
Look, if a girl dresses nice, that's fine.
I actually kind of, there's this song.
It was his first hit by Drake.
Okay.
The best I ever had.
Is that it?
Yeah.
Hair tied.
Fuck, how's that shit going on?
Yeah, the chilling with no makeup on.
Sweatpants, hair.
Hold on.
Sweatpants, hair tied, chilling with no makeup on.
That's when they're your prettiest.
I don't like.
On the first date, I'll tell a girl, yo, you don't need to like, hold on, hold on.
Their album meatball donated $100.
I'll try an eye watch guy.
Oh, my God.
Maybe spend that $100 on a new watch.
He's a chap.
No, but I actually prefer, like, I'll even tell a girl, like, well, so, okay, I don't like, I'm not a huge fan of makeup.
I don't really like makeup.
So, honestly, anything more than a bit of like maybe mascara, eyeline, or whatever.
Like, when you start putting shit on your face or lipstick, not a big fan.
Not a big fan of it.
So I kind of like the more low maintenance type of thing.
She can still dress well and not wear a lot of makeup.
And a man can dress casually and still be well groomed and smell good and be put together.
And his sweatpants fit nicely and he doesn't wear open plaid over a t-shirt, you know, to dinner.
Well, a lot of it has to do with the colours.
Yo, flannels are in the sun.
I don't know what you.
You guys missed the best.
I don't care.
If you went to Australia, you would be right in.
Flannels are the shit.
This is California, so.
Black button-up on.
Black button-up?
Long sleeve button.
You know what?
That was all black.
I'm going to change into something.
I'm going to be right back.
You guys.
Tell me.
Okay, okay.
You guys tell me if you would date me when I'm going to be able to do it.
Okay, so you take over for a sec.
I'll be right back.
Well, I was looking at Jackson.
You're taking my drink to the appearances.
I was going to say, a lot of it has to do with how you carry yourself as well, having to do with makeup.
Because I even, this past year, for probably like a good six months, I just increasingly went with less and less makeup just to try to embrace more and more.
Yeah.
But I noticed over time, like, and my mom told me this too.
She noticed I started carrying myself a little bit differently.
In some ways, it was really good.
In other ways, when I finally did start wearing a little bit more makeup, and I don't, like, I wear like maybe three things.
Like, I don't go crazy anyway.
I don't really know how to do makeup that well.
But like, you just kind of, it, like, ups your confidence sometimes.
Like, you just feel like a little bit more.
But do you think that has to do with the fact that people are now comparing themselves to people online constantly and setting up realistic standards?
I think that that's a huge thing.
Yeah.
It has to do with the comparison.
For myself personally, it was, I was able to develop more confidence with my natural beauty because like I got so used to wearing makeup every day.
Like, and it was just like mascara, right?
But even just going without mascara, like, I started to love like just like my facial features the way they were without any of it.
And like, I think it's just about like enhancing your natural beauty rather than creating beauty.
Of course, it can be done tastefully and then it can be, it can be done not tastefully as well.
It can be damaging.
Yeah, absolutely.
Same thing happened with me.
I think like a month ago.
I was, one day I forgot like bringing my makeup when I was out somewhere and I had like I didn't have any makeup on and I looked in the mirror and I thought I looked hideous and I was thinking about it and I shouldn't look at myself in the mirror and think I'm ugly without makeup.
And so I'm sorry.
I'm really bad at talking right now because I'm kind of nervous and tired.
But I feel like it's wrong to look at yourself in the mirror without makeup and think you're hideous.
And so I went on a trip to Europe for two weeks and I was like, I'm not going to pack makeup.
And it was terrible the first few days.
I felt like terrible in all my pictures.
But then over time, I felt more and more confident.
And now I can wear it for like special events, but I'm trying to go makeup free as well.
That's how it was for me too.
Yeah.
I'm interested to know, girls, in your DMs, what is the craziest thing you've ever been offered in terms of being flown out?
Anything like that?
Have you ever accepted?
Have you ever been tempted to accept?
No, because of safety.
Number one.
What have you been offered?
Is it true that you girls are getting offered to be flown out?
Yeah, I would say so for like, but for like sexual things.
And at the end of the day, like are they pretty explicit?
You have to do that?
Sometimes, like, I'll get like messages in my DMs like, oh, I'll pay you to come fly out to me and like do whatever.
And like, safety is number one, obviously.
And I wouldn't necessarily accept money for that.
Like, I want to talk to someone or get to know them and not just for sex.
Like, that's not a thing.
I don't want to do that.
Yeah.
Yeah, because you got to be careful as well.
Yeah, exactly.
How about yourself?
Hey, being flown out to somewhere you're unfamiliar with.
Yeah.
Just anyway.
Has someone slid into your DMs and said, I'll pay you to do this, and then you've either rejected or accepted it?
Yeah, and I agree with her on the safety part.
Like, you can't, you can't just decide that.
No matter what amount of money you're going to give me, like, or offering, I don't know you.
So if you don't, but if you did know them, you might do it.
Who knows?
Okay.
Like, maybe the craziest thing would probably be, like, a car.
They've offered to buy you a car.
Yeah.
But obviously, like, same thing with, like, safety reasons.
Like, do you think that was serious?
There's a lot of stalkers, huh?
Do you think they were serious about it?
What do you mean?
Like, do I think he was serious?
Yeah, he was serious.
My tourist was like a stalker of mine.
Yeah, right.
Okay.
I haven't had anyone slide into my DMs, but people are going to be able to do it.
You will after this.
Because, well, sure, but because I go door to door and I talk to people every day.
A few weeks back, I did have this guy, like, he straight up offered to go take me and get a new car full up in cash.
I was like sitting on this dude's couch, like, trying to sell him like a smart home system, and he's like, yeah, I'll buy you a car.
And then I was like, maybe I should be selling the fact that I'm broke instead of this system.
But no, then I was just kind of like, well, I'm going to go talk to your neighbors.
But other than that, I haven't had any crazy offers.
No, it comes back to safety.
I am a really small person, so.
4'11.
I'm 4'10.
4'10?
Yeah, you were giving me a little bit of grace with that extra inch.
I've got these booster seats over here, but sliding around.
What's it like being 410?
Man, I definitely get to experience the world at a lower level.
It looks like a legal, like legally.
No, I used to.
So my first car had a 1999 Tahoe, and I put pedal extensions in there.
And I drove around with that.
So like this small little girl hopped out of this big stacked up truck.
You know, trying to love that.
What's your cultural background?
So I was actually adopted from China when I was nine months old.
And then I grew up in Texas, and I'm still there currently trying to move to LA.
You never met your parents, your adopted parents?
No, I have not.
It was a close adoption.
Oh, yeah.
So in 1996, it was pretty.
Adoption, I'm pretty sure in China you could only have one child.
Oh, I feel like I'm fancy over here.
Stalingrad.
He wore this on the first date.
Women love a man in uniform.
But I don't think this is what we had in mind.
Do you have a hat?
Is your shovel with the rest of it?
Do you have a sword?
I just think you're missing touch finding.
Did you get a watch also?
Yeah, do you have a watch?
Do you have a sword?
Do the metals match?
Maybe an eye watch.
Do you have a pocket watch?
Yes.
which is our investment piece a monocle maybe okay Yeah.
Perfect.
Style it.
See, now I'm hopping on it.
Now he's one step above the occasion.
So I show up to a first date like this.
Dude, I'm not going to do that.
That's a midfield.
We run away.
It's done.
Yes, for me.
You guys are, panties are dropping instantly.
Yeah, we're going to marry you.
Let's do it.
What?
Instantly.
Running and screaming the other direction.
Is it a Soviet?
No, it's World War I.
Oh, United States.
It's quite collector's art.
I'm going to be honest.
I would, if a guy showed up in that uniform minus the hat on a first date, you'd be into that shit.
I would do it, yeah.
I'm kind of nerdy.
I have like a weird World War fetish.
World War fetish.
Yeah, not like sexual, but when you say fetish, sexual, it suggests that.
And when you say fetish, it's a little bit different.
A romantic fetish.
Yeah.
Okay.
Like a romance novel.
Phil Haba love story, that sort of thing.
He dies and comes back.
You thought he was a dad.
He comes back to life?
Yeah.
You thought he was.
From the dead?
Oh, my God.
AB Check.
Thank you for the 20 gifted memberships.
Much appreciated.
Wait, okay, so I think before I got up and took a while to get fucking changed into this shit, it's not an easy thing to get into.
I'm not seeing you struggling.
Yeah, it was tough.
This shit was hard.
Y'all were being very rude to me about my fashion choices.
I was deeply hurt and offended.
I'm sorry.
All of you were hating on my flannel.
You need to lose the flannel, I think.
Yeah.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
The flannels?
I know that's like your thing.
Yeah, that's my thing.
I know it's your thing, but maybe if you paired the flannel with like a nicer shirt underneath and then like some jeans, like it's jeans?
I dress for speed.
I dress for speed.
I'm trying to dress.
Bro, have you ever tried to throw a fucking high kick in jeans, son?
How often do you even throw a high cake?
Bro, more often than you would think, son.
I'd be throwing kicks all day.
I'd be like, is that the high kicks?
Like, you just got to do it.
You never know when you got fucking kicking some motherfucker.
See, I dress for a zombie apocalypse.
I'm fucking ready.
Some shit goes down, bro.
Shit hits the fan.
See, you guys overlook this shit because you'd be wearing heels and shit.
But us men, we got to be thinking, okay, I don't ever wear sandals when I go out in public because in case some shit goes down, I want to be in some proper shoes so I can run.
Me and Brian wolf back to back.
That's what's up.
You guys don't have the privilege.
Hold on.
You guys don't have the privilege of being conscious of these shit hits the fan scenarios.
That's why y'all be wearing heels and shit.
You think you're going to run away from a tsunami and heels, son?
No.
We're on the floor.
Why are we looking at me?
We are here.
I'm tallest here.
I do not wear heels.
California, son.
There could be a tsunami.
I won't even let you.
I have puma sweats too.
I wear flannels.
I'm not trying to get to high grounds in some heels, son.
Brian.
Is there ever an occasion that you do dress up?
I said, is there ever an occasion that you do dress up?
Funerals.
He's invited to me.
Bar mitzvahs.
Yeah, no weddings.
No weddings, just funerals.
And bomb mitzvahs.
And weddings, I guess.
Brian, just go to Utah.
Everybody gets married in Utah.
Everyone's getting married soon.
Sweatpants are comfortable.
There's weddings like every day.
Yeah.
Bill Gates wore.
Wait, Bill Gates.
Steve Jobs wore New Balance.
And he was a billionaire before he tragically died of cancer.
New Balance is actually kind of nice.
But did he wear this kind of trending billionaires?
He's wear whatever they're wedding.
What did you say?
He didn't wear the same fits.
I mean, should the brand matter that much?
Like, definitely quality, but he said he's never been able to do it.
Here's the thing.
Here's what you guys don't understand.
It's not our job as men to be the pretty ones.
That's y'all job.
No, in America.
In Europe, because the Latin dress is so nice, and they could still be ready.
Oh, yeah.
It's not even.
Yeah.
It's just looking clean cut and knowing how to present yourself.
Look, I was going to have a good idea.
It's not even aerodynamic.
Me and Brian pre-planned this.
I said, I'd dress nice.
And I was like, Brian, are you going to wear the flannel just so someone's ready?
You know, repurpose it a little bit.
It's not even like a crazy amount of effort that needs to be put into it, honestly.
It's just kind of knowing how to style yourself and having a few really good kind of timeless pieces.
You know what, guys?
You've changed yourself.
It's the reverse of Brian.
Brian, can I take you shopping?
Should we have a ceremony and bury your flannels?
Oh, it's the reverse of the Drake like yours.
Let me take you shopping, but not pay for it.
Excuse me.
I'll help you.
I'll fix your wardrobe for you.
Listen, I'm high maintenance.
You got a wine and dime.
You're not going to, if you're going to take me shopping, you're paying for that.
You know your worth.
Yeah, that's right.
Yes queen.
Can you take that last part back?
The yes queen?
Can you not go?
It's done.
Accept it.
Okay.
Let's see.
It doesn't do social media.
We did this one, actively dresses down to not be flashy.
The social media thing is a turn on, not having social media.
No, I like when a man has social media.
Get a gold chain and he'll be golden.
No.
Listen.
No.
Listen.
Are you guys familiar with the band Pearl Jam?
Do you guys know Eddie Vedder?
Yes.
That's what I'm going for, okay?
Put some respect.
Now or, or are you going for like?
It was a great look in the early 90s.
It's a great look today.
So are you going for, like, the grunge, like Kurt Cobain?
I'm looking for, yeah.
But.
But like the Eddie Vetter look, which is the Kurt Cobain.
Most of the Grunge band singers, they all died.
But Eddie Vedder still kick him.
So I'm going for the Eddie Vetter look.
I mean, I'm sure he's gotten babes.
You'll get some babes with that.
Anybody try to sing a Pearl Jam song really quick?
I love Rock Band.
I grew up on Rock Band.
It's always one, like, I'm spacing the Pearl Gem ones, but I know for a fact I have some on my family.
Dude, that one's like, that one's one of the main.
You have to know that one.
Which one?
1970.
1970?
Wait, is Alive by Pearl Jam?
I think you're talking about smashing pumpkins.
Vetiman is a good song, Bubbill.
Is Alive by Pearl Jam?
I'm still.
That's the one I just sang.
Oh, alive.
I thought we were going to get copyrighted episode.
Yeah, I know.
But you kind of just like, you didn't sing it.
You're just like, eh.
I mean, Eddie Vedder kind of sings like he has marbles in his mouth, but it's kind of it.
Okay, let's move on here.
We have the real Mr. Meatball.
Could you date someone substantially smarter than you?
I hope to date somebody smarter than me because I have to learn some things.
If they have high EQ too.
Like, they have to be smart, but also very understand how to talk to people.
And they're not socially pretending about it.
Yeah.
I dated a couple of men who are in the genius IQ range, and I found that it actually turned out to be quite difficult for me.
So I like when a man is intelligent and smarter than me in areas that I'm not so capable.
But I think I've learned for me there is actually a threshold where it's like, it doesn't work for me.
I guess it's just about complimenting the areas where you each aren't.
I say like I'd obviously rather date a man that's smarter than not.
I've like dated guys for like even just talking about like different IQ levels or like, I don't know, like study habits, things like that.
Like it's it's one of those things again where what's the word?
High whatever it's like.
Hypergamy, yeah.
Like I feel like it's the same thing with intelligence.
Like I want somebody that like I can actually learn from and grow, but I also want them to be able to like grow from me and grow and learn from me in the same ways as well.
Instead of me feeling like I'm dragging them along because they're like, you know, they don't want to try or they're like that's their peak.
Yeah.
Yeah, because I've dated guys where it's like, I'm like looking to get a little bit more out of them and I'm like, oh, like that's it.
Like that's kind of where it stops.
Jake from Rattlesnake TV Would you date a woman Who's stupider than you?
Well, of course I would, of course.
I'd be much more hesitant to date a woman that's smarter than me.
I'd rather date a woman who's more stupid than me.
No way.
Absolutely.
Why?
Wait, you'd rather date a woman who's smarter than that.
Is that what you think?
No, no, I'd rather date a woman who's less smart.
Oh, okay.
Why do you think you deserve that?
That doesn't mean you're not.
What do you mean deserves?
I don't know.
What do you mean by that, though?
Like, can you elaborate on that?
What specifically do you want to know?
I just, like, I think that, like, how do you know?
Is there like a.
Well, you can tell.
I mean, you have you have exchanges with them, and you can see who gets the upper hand, and then you have to sort of go easy on them.
But, like, is it like wanting to, like, be like the, I don't know how to, what's the word for it?
Like, are you asking if I want to?
Like the Power Trip type of vibe?
Like, all right, I'm going to always know.
You don't want somebody who's always going to be constantly challenging you on absolutely everything.
It's pretty, like, what is it?
Is that the right word?
I don't know.
So, so we like somebody like me, like, I've got a business that I run and I'm constantly challenged by everything around me all the time.
So, when I get home, I want tenderness and love.
And if someone who wants to help me with whatever endeavors that I'm doing, then that's fine.
But I don't want to get home and have somebody who just wants to argue with me, challenge me, and all these sorts of things.
And I don't want somebody.
Yeah.
Like, I think it's important to be able to have intellectual conversations, but also.
I said before, I like it.
No one needs a brand anymore, honestly.
I think one day you're going to be old and you're going to be gray and old and you're going to want to talk about something with someone.
Some of the common misconceptions that a lot of guys say that they want a girl who's just going to sit there and shut up and be quiet.
I personally don't think that.
I think that you want somebody who can have a conversation with you.
And dumb or then you doesn't mean dumb or stupid.
Yeah, I feel like you maybe worded it differently, but I get what you're saying more now that you explained it a little bit.
So someone who's less less stupid.
A little bit of an intelligence gap.
Yeah.
A small intelligence gap.
I don't even know if it's like an intelligence gap.
Stupid women are really hot.
Like a girl who's just dumb and bimbo feminist.
She's a bimbo.
Bimbo feminist.
Just somebody that's like a friend.
You're going to be the victim to the bimbo feminism.
Very hard for guys like you.
What do you mean?
The bimbo feminism?
What do you mean?
Were you here for that part?
Like I'll date.
I'll end up dating a bimbo feminism.
You're falling right into the tower.
They're like the Paris Hilton personality.
I love women like that though.
I think they're great.
I think they're funny.
They're fun.
You know what I mean?
I think you're afraid if they're too smart, they're going to start critiquing your outfit too much.
If they're too smart, they're going to critique my.
No, I feel like high IQ people probably don't give a shit about how you dress.
You could actually make the opposite argument that super high IQ women are like not super concerned with material.
But you can absolutely make it a bit more like that.
Like you can argue really like low IQ women are like really obsessed with vanity.
Oh true.
Because there's not much more depth to them after that.
When I say like a dumb, like a stupid, by the way, I'm kind of being facetious, but not like a dumb woman that's going to like fuck up your life, but like a simple woman, you know?
Sure.
So not simple.
It's almost like an airhead.
Because sometimes being hyper intelligent comes with neuroticism.
So it's like, you know, they're just, because like if you're kind of, ignorance is bliss type of shit.
Like if you're super smart and you're just thinking about like, man, poverty.
All the time.
I was like, bro.
Oh, my God.
We all basically want to balance.
I really was.
I really was going through the airport looking at people thinking if there was an apocalypse right now, who would die first?
So I, I mean, wait, what?
I was thinking about how you're like, you want someone who doesn't, you know, they're just sitting there thinking about like, oh, poverty.
Like, I was sitting there in the airport thinking, like, I wonder, like, I'm like, oh, that lady would definitely die first.
If like zombies took over right now.
Is that what you mean?
Like, just thinking about like.
Well, like, there's like stupid where they make mistakes and they fuck up, you know?
You don't want that.
What kind of mistakes are you?
And what's the other two?
Like, you mean the sweet spot of stupidity is what we're looking for?
Yeah, there's like a sweet spot, sweet spot for sure.
It depends on the personality as well.
Like, I'm somebody who's a big communicator.
Like, I'm traveling with my brother.
We work together.
He's a terrible communicator.
Internalizes everything.
So I find that very frustrating.
So, if I ever had a wife, then I would need her to be a good communicator.
And I find that's a form of intelligence that I would personally need.
Whereas other people, like my brother, for example, he wouldn't care at all about that.
Like, you know, he's very creative, smart, but like, wouldn't not necessarily like somebody who needs to communicate.
So we have here Don A. Thank you for the donation, man.
I appreciate it.
I run 100-mile foot races in sandals, LOL39 single marine vet.
Oh, yay.
There we go.
I feel like so you can do it in sandals.
Did I miss?
Was I away from that?
You said that you don't wear sandals.
You know, you were safe.
But you know you don't leave the house.
And be ready to save people, and he's saying he's a vet and he wears.
I run 100.
Look, there's people who do barefoot.
Look, you can ask.
I run barefoot.
I was finished that, and you had blisters.
I'm just saying.
Listen, if you're tredging through the glass, there's glass-strewn streets of the Paris riots, and then there's like a disease you can get on your hepatitis.
Hepatitis.
You know, you want shoes when you're walking through the streets, son.
I'm not walking around New York City or San Francisco in fucking barefoot.
I'm just hand-toed shoes in a city.
Look, you go to the beach, yeah, you go in the sand.
Fine, you can go barefoot, but I'm just saying.
I'm just saying, you know, you can't do that.
Brian, do you think your level of risk adversion is normal?
Because even with like first dates and marriage and not wanting to wear sandals, are you genuinely asking what?
Wait, so what's the question?
What's your question?
Do you think your level of risk adversity is normal?
Is my level of risk averseness normal?
Yeah, you're like, you're always worried about these weird situations.
I'm deeply worried about this.
You're right.
Yeah, I'm super deeply.
He's trolling you.
Okay, maybe not the sandals, but like the marriage and like not paying on a first.
I do feel like really insecure when I'm wearing sandals, though, not gonna lie.
Like I do, in the back of my head, I'm like, bro, if shit goes down, I'm fucked.
You feel vulnerable.
Right?
Yeah, like I'm going to Chipotle, bro.
Who knows who's coming?
Some fucking gunman comes in Chipotle.
I got my fucking sandals on.
I'm fucked.
I can't run.
I can't run in sandals, son.
There's also the feet fetishers.
You don't want to be showing your toes.
You know what's crazy?
You know what's fucking crazy?
There's a website called Wikifeet.
I'm on that shit.
Not like someone uploaded my feet pics to that.
You're lying.
Do you feel betrayed?
Yo, Nick, why do you have feet feet?
Don't pull up.
Yeah, they do send wiki.
I told you, I'll send it just like some weird dudes, like a couple.
Some weird dudes be screenshotting my feet.
Stop the link.
Why are you having a feet online?
No, I didn't put it online.
I'm just saying, there's like a photo, and my feet happen to be in the photo.
These motherfuckers like zoom in on the feet.
I literally have a WikiFeet article about me.
Can we pull that article?
No, it's they we have my shit and I'm high-rated.
I'm super high-rated on WikiFeet.
Watch out, girls.
I'm coming for your breath.
Put me on with my face.
I'm coming for your OnlyFans money.
Hey, collab.
Let's go.
Let's fucking go.
Wait, so what was your question?
Seriously, though, I'll try to be serious.
What was your question?
Does anyone remember myself?
Do you think your level of risk aversity is realistic?
Or is it normal?
You seem very highly adverse to me.
Is that what you're saying?
Or like high anxiety?
I don't know.
You're very nervous about certain situations.
I don't think he's nervous.
Yeah, man.
I'm just planning for the worst.
We're not trying to understand the words.
Yeah, in terms of marriage, in terms of marriage and his view on marriage, you have to be careful these days.
It's not being risk averse, it's being smart and calculated and not thinking with your dick.
Yeah, but even not paying on the first date, I feel like sometimes you just got to risk the L.
I don't know.
There's been times where I have paid.
I feel like I've paid on first dates like a lot of times.
And why do you do that?
Just because I'm able to and I want to, and it doesn't matter.
I know it's going to come back.
Like, it's just one fucking thing.
Are these dates where you're just going out to dinner, or is there an activity involved in the day as well?
Doesn't matter.
Wait, Tasia has a question for me.
Please restate your question.
I will answer it.
Do you think your level of risk aversion is normal?
What specifically are we talking about here?
Do you feel like it's normal for you to be so concerned about what could possibly go wrong in terms of marriage?
Well, in terms of anxiety, I think it might be more general, but especially in dating and marriage.
So you're saying that when it comes to dating, I am risk-averse.
Yeah, like more than the norm.
Well, I think I am merely moving and operating the same way that an average woman would move in terms of my screening process.
Because I think men are honestly terrible screeners and they'll honestly take anything that comes.
Whereas I think I'm approaching when it comes to the screening that I do, it's commensurate with the average woman.
So am I risk-averse when it comes to dating?
Probably.
But that's smart.
To a degree, it's smart.
I think you can miss out on a lot of great girls by refusing to pay for a first date.
No, that's some gangster shit.
They love that shit.
Like, your name is Grace, right?
What's not paying for girlfriend?
You can't tell me.
Wait, what's gangster?
Not paying for it or paying for it?
Not paying for it.
Not paying for it.
I mean, it's not gangsta.
No, it's cowardly.
How's it?
I take offense.
I take offense.
Someone give me a glove.
I'm going to challenge you to a duel.
How dare you call me a coward?
You can't tell me that if a woman like Grace wanted to go on a date with you, that you'd be like, oh, yeah, she's sleeping with a bunch of men, so I can't buy this nice lady at a dollar.
Oh, no, she's got the Miley Cyrus hair.
I don't know if you can.
So, Brian, I don't know this about you.
You don't ever pay on first dates.
There are some rare occasions in which I will pay for a first date.
You don't even go half and half.
Like, it's just a full.
You don't like it.
No, no, no.
I'll pay.
I'll pay for my food.
I'm a gentleman.
I'll pay for my food.
That's different.
What if you're not going to be able to do that?
Like, you're not going to pay for her part of the.
Like, what does that look like?
How does that go down?
Or you want some game?
I'll give you some game.
And you've decided at some point in the date, like, I'm not paying for her portion.
What do you mean?
Hold on.
At some point in the date, I've just that's predetermined.
No, he doesn't.
There's not a decision in the middle of the date where, like, I'm not paying for this shit.
It's like going in.
I don't care how cool she is.
I am paying for it.
Because you said sometimes you'll pay, sometimes you don't.
So I thought, like, how do you determine?
That's why I was like, how are you deciding?
Yeah.
You've caught me.
Hold on.
One question at a time.
How do you form a line, please?
I will answer all of you.
You have to decide when to pay for a date, and how do you decide when you're not going to, and what does that look like on the date for you?
So there's a one thing I'll look at is income.
Okay.
Income.
If she's making good money, if she's a professional, she has a career, under those circumstances, man.
Thank you, Victor.
I feel like Brian is a bit too careful when it comes to dating, but it seems that's not enough looking at how the dating scene looks like in the States.
In other places, you don't have all these factors that make it harder for you.
Cheers, Bree.
Brie, huh?
Is that cheese or some shit?
I'm assuming they meant Briar.
Yeah, I guess I get it.
Well, I mean, one thing he's talking about, like, for example, guys have to be cognizant when it comes to the not paying thing.
A lot of maybe not a lot of women, but enough women do what's called a foodie call, where they're going on dates without a genuine intention of pursuing anything, whether it be sexually or romantically.
So they'll go on the date with a guy because they had nothing better to do and they just want a free meal.
I'm not saying all women do this, but if you've dated long enough, like you've ran into a girl who's a user.
Just like I'm sure women have, you guys have maybe ran into dudes who are fucking or the date.
Like, I can tell she's that kind of woman, so I'm not going to pay.
And then why are you taking a picture?
That's like a if that's the determining factor.
You wouldn't go if you knew what she was.
Why are you taking her out?
Yeah, I wouldn't go.
Right.
So when do you not pay for a date?
Predetermined.
Well, like I was, as I was about to say, if she's a career woman, if she's making her own money, and also, like, living in California, a lot of women you encounter tend to lean more liberal, progressive.
So you kind of like, bro, you can't be feminist until the check comes.
You can pay.
Like, this is what you asked for.
Maybe that's a bit vindictive.
But I'd say the main thing is, for example, if she's younger and she's in college or something, like she's 21, she's still in college, under those circumstances, I'd be more inclined to pay.
But honestly, I feel like you can do some even extra gangster shit and just do something for free.
Do some free shit.
Go for a little.
Also, the best move, and it's only a couple of times.
I know that have ever done it.
It's when.
The thing that I love the most is when the man excuses himself to go to the restroom and he pays the bill so that when it when, so it's not even an issue at the table.
So he takes care of the bill and it's done.
And then they come and they say, thank you.
That happened to me and I swear it was like wow yeah, that was a class act, because he was like i'm not even gonna put her in a position he knows, he knows who I am.
He's like i'm not even gonna go there, it didn't matter, like what I made, what I did whatever, whatever he's like I don't want to make, of course, I want to get it, and so he just got it.
Yeah listen, this isn't like what i'm proportion.
What I am putting out there is not like the most effective thing you can do.
The most effective thing you can do, regardless of what the situation is, whether it's a foodie call, whether it's not, whether she's liberal, whether she's conservative is to pay for the date.
However, as a matter of principle, even though it comes at my detriment or my potential detriment by losing women, for me it's kind of like a principle thing, because if you're like dating liberal women, which I I mean, I'm trying to avoid that in recent recency.
But like living in California, living in Santa Barbara, a super liberal place, a lot of the women you're going to counter are probably like lean liberal.
They'd probably say, I believe in gender equality.
Gender roles should be removed, blah, blah, blah.
Like, I'm not going to, I'm not.
Genders can be equal and have different roles.
Men and women are equal in their dignity.
Yeah, but you can't.
But they can have different roles.
And they can be complementary.
You don't have to say that a woman is lesser than a man to justify paying for a woman's meal.
That's not what I'm saying, but there are certain gender roles that benefit men and there are certain gender roles that benefit women.
So you don't get to like equality is not a buffet where you pick and choose the benefits with which you like you take the equality that benefits you and disregard the equality that doesn't come to your benefit.
That's my view.
So you're saying that if a woman, just for clarification, so if the woman wants the right to vote and the right to an education, then she shouldn't anticipate a man paying for her meal to give her a small social cue that he is of a provider mindset.
Well, being in the provider mindset, that's a traditional gender role.
I'm not sure the two examples you gave are perfect examples, but I'm trying to think of like...
Maybe you could think of one.
I'm trying to think of a better example.
For example, okay, you want a man who's a leader and who's a protector and who's going to take initiative, right?
In what sense?
Okay, so, well, paying for the date, that would be like a man being in the leadership position.
So if you want a man to be in that leadership position, he ought to have, like, the man in a long-term relationship in their marriage should be the head of the household.
In other words, the final decision on any issue is mine.
For example, if I want my kids to not go to public school and I want them to go be homeschooled and you disagree with me, it's my call.
Right, so I would only marry a man whose judgment I trusted in the first place.
Okay.
So I'm only going to marry a man where I feel like he would make proper decisions for my life and my children's life and for the betterment of the family.
Sure.
And so that's a non-issue to me.
That's all.
I want him to be a leader.
If I don't respect him and I don't think he's a good decision maker, then I wouldn't be dating him.
So that's like, of course I want that.
I'm trying to think of another example.
Well, here's, go ahead, Priya.
I definitely agree with that, but to an extent, I think that just because I do believe that the man of the home is essentially the main decision maker, there are probably going to be decisions that he's going to make that I don't fully agree with at that point in time, but I'm going to trust him and believe because I trust his decision-making capability and I trust that he has my well-being and the well-being of our future kids at the forefront of his mind.
And I have to trust that he's making these decisions for that betterment.
I agree 100%.
And I actually think this I actually think that oftentimes men make better decisions than I would make.
And I think I've learned in dating that sometimes men have a foresight that I don't have.
And if I just defer to their decision and what they've chosen, I often find that if I sit back and allow it to play out, it actually is a great decision.
Whereas when I was younger, I think I might have been like, well, I don't see that and I'm not sure.
And I think we should do it this way or whatever.
But now, I don't know.
I feel differently now.
So I'm saying I agree with you.
No, totally.
Oh, go ahead, go ahead.
Sorry, just one more quick point.
Just women tend to be more emotional decision makers and men tend to be more rational.
So I think, therefore, that's why they historically make better and more trusted decisions.
So let me ask you a question.
Is it a man's job to pay on a first date?
I think for me, if a man doesn't pay, he's not the man for me.
Okay.
Most likely.
Now, if I were to say it's a woman's job to cook and clean, do you object to that statement?
Or is that okay for you?
I think that if someone's in a traditional gender-rolled marriage and they've decided like the woman's going to stay home and cook and clean and raise the kids and the husband's going to be a provider, like that's fine.
Now, I'm not, just to clarify, I'm not necessarily saying that that's what I believe.
Yeah.
But as a woman, even if you're a liberal-leaning woman, you're not going to get a ton of pushback if you say, I want a guy who or I think men should pay for the first date.
However, if a guy were to say, I think a woman should cook and clean, you're going to get a lot more people.
If a man wants a woman who wants to stay home and be a homemaker, then he should find that kind of woman.
There's lots of women who want to do that.
I think that's great.
I have nothing wrong with that.
I do know women who don't like when men pay on dates, and that's fine too.
But you're asking my opinion: do I think a man should pay on the first date?
That's I people have free will.
They can do whatever they want.
All I'm saying is if I go on a date and I go to dinner, if I'm asked out on a date from a man and we go to this dinner and the bill came and he wanted to split it with me, I would split the bill.
I wouldn't say anything about it.
I would quietly pay my piece.
I would quietly pay my piece of the bill, but I wouldn't go on a second date with him.
That's fine.
And look, everyone can have a lot of fun.
It's not like a big, it's just my preference.
Yeah.
Okay.
But couldn't it be my preference to not want to pay on the first date?
It can be your preference, yes.
Okay.
But you object to it.
I don't object to it for you if that's your choice and that's attracting the kind of woman that you want.
But for me, if you and I went on a first date and you said, hey, Nicole, let's go out to dinner.
We go to some seafood place.
I don't know.
You're wearing flannel and I'm looking great.
And then the bill came and you wanted to, you said, okay, let's split the bill.
I'd be like, okay, great.
Like, I wouldn't be negative in the moment.
I'd be polite and I'd split the bill with you, but I wouldn't go out again.
Yeah, that's fine.
I mean, well, you're bringing up the physical appearance thing, like in terms of a man's dress.
I mean, I would simply just reiterate once again, that's while it does add bonus points for a man to be physically attractive or well-dressed, that is not our primary method, at least I believe, of being attractive to a partner.
I agree.
I think that's more within the realm of women.
I agree.
In that situation, though, at the same time, it also does kind of depend on who invited who out.
Well, who invited who out?
Yeah, but generally speaking, men are initiating first dates.
If I split the bill with a man, it's because I'm not interested in him.
So sometimes I will offer to split it or to pay it.
And it's because I'm not interested in it.
No, and look, there's definitely guys.
And there's definitely guys that will be, if you even offer to split, they might be turned off by that.
There are some guys who are going to be like, that's why I wouldn't do that.
If I wasn't interested in him, but then there are definitely guys who will look at that and be like, oh, okay, she wants to equally contribute to the start of this relationship.
And I don't think that makes a guy like a super liberal soy boy cuck or anything.
I just like when they reach for it.
The thing where they pretend that they're going to find their purse and they don't know anything.
I don't reach.
Honestly, though, I think the hottest thing a girl could do is she just pays for the whole fucking thing.
Like she's a straight-up simp.
That's so fucking hot if a girl's just a simple person.
That's actually a good call.
Like she's like, that's called no.
Simp?
That's called a simp.
I did that a couple dates ago.
I went inside to the restroom and I paid the whole bill.
Yeah, because it shows that she's really trying.
But I wasn't interested in that.
That's just her nature.
I just talked like I can.
Acts of service.
Let's go.
Wait, should we talk about how lots of people are saying because I'm 39, I'm too picky and I shouldn't have so many, I shouldn't be asking for so much.
I'm asking for too much because I'm 39.
Yeah, just out of curiosity, so do you want kids?
I'm open either way.
You're open either way.
Yeah, I'm open to having a child.
And if I don't have a child, then I'm okay with that.
Do you date people who do have kids?
I don't date people with children, no.
Okay.
Have you before?
I tried once because a friend of mine was like, why don't you try dating men with kids?
And I tried it and it wasn't for me.
The question comes back to, though, like, if you do want to have kids, then obviously 39, you're getting on, so it's going to be much, much harder for you to have kids from now on.
So then I think that that's what people would be alluding to in terms of lowering the bar a little bit with your standards.
Yeah, so for me, so yeah, I only have probably a few years if I want to have a child.
If I meet someone and we get on quickly and it's the right person and I get pregnant and we have a child, that's beautiful.
If I don't meet the man who is for me until my 50s and that time has passed for me, I can show my maternity and my femininity and that love in other ways.
And it will probably be something that I do mourn to some extent, but that's okay.
I just would want to find the right person for me.
And how much are you willing to wiggle in terms of this arrangement?
Because if you did want to have kids, like we just said, the clock's ticking quite a bit.
Do you have wiggle room there or are you pretty set in?
Wiggle room in the wiggle.
Let's just take the first date, for example.
I think that you expect too much in terms of the first date.
I can understand that you'd be.
Having him.
I'll explain it.
So I can understand why you'd want someone to be financially sort of stable.
And then obviously that first date thing, that's a generosity thing.
And that's an attractive thing.
But in terms of paying for the first dates, maybe the guy is just seeing if you're willing to go halves.
Like maybe he's willing to, maybe he's just doing that to just see if you understand reciprocity.
Maybe.
And I've gone halves and I've reached for my wallet and I've reached for my wallet with the intention to offer.
I've also noticed that it doesn't have proper rate.
But if I'm going, like I'll actually, you know, I will.
So I've done all the different necessarily believe you when you say that you, that's an automatic no-go because it has to be something else that happened in the date.
Because if he if it was a really good date and if he was a good prospect and if you do want to have kids in the future, surely you wouldn't just not go on a second date because he's an interesting question because I think the men that I'm going on dates with, they don't want me to pay for half.
So it's, I'm trying to imagine a scenario with a man I'm going on a date with who wants to go haves, but I'm not.
What about like I just said, reciprocity?
He wants you to be showing that you're willing to reciprocate from the jump.
Okay, so if I'm on a date and he wants me to go halves, I'll go haves.
I've said that.
But then you won't go on a second date?
Probably not.
Probably not.
But what if it was a good date otherwise?
And what if you were actually very surprised because he was generous in other regards and he strikes you as a generous person?
Yeah, then I would.
I would.
It's not an end-all-be-all.
It's just, it's a difficult question because the men that I go on dates with are not asking me to go have.
It's just like not in their nature, really, maybe, to ask me to go havesies.
So I'm not in that scenario.
Yeah, I see what you mean.
I don't know.
So getting back to the whole wiggle room thing, there is wiggle room.
You do have wiggle room in terms of the dates because it is.
It just depends on what we're wiggling on.
Like I just.
Like what?
Like he does.
Like he goes havesies on a first date.
Yeah.
Just little things like that because if you do want to have children, then that should be something that you're pursuing with some vigor rather than just saying, oh, well, not him, not him, not him, not him.
So if you're pursuing it, then you'd want to maybe get to know somebody on a deeper level before you reject them for not wanting to pay for the date every time.
Sure, I understand that.
Yeah.
Jake from Rattlesnake TV, are you saying that she has too high standards?
Yes, I am, actually.
Well, you know what?
I actually appreciate the standards, though.
I like the fact that you know what you want, but in terms of your own, if I were you, and you were sort of heading towards your 40s.
Data homes.
I'm just kidding.
I'm kidding.
It's not, I don't, my personal opinion is that it's not a very nice existence to be north of 50 and not have a family.
That's fair.
I was also thinking about never being married ever, so we might have slightly different sources than that.
Their own meatball donated $100.
Thank you, man.
Why not consider just doing it yourself?
Or at least freeze your eggs to keep your options open?
Freeze the eggs option?
Are they suggesting yourself as in having a child?
Yeah, they're saying have a child on your own, like freeze your eggs.
We know what happens to children who are raised without a father.
I don't do IBM.
Prison, poverty.
Wait, children who are raised by only their father?
Children who are raised in single mother homes are 20 times more likely to end up in prison.
Far more likely to end up in poverty, drop out of hospital.
Single fathers is much less, much less.
Single dads.
Well, I mean, because obviously single dads have more of the tough love and then single mothers are more nurturing.
So especially if you're a young boy, you're going to walk all over your mother.
Yeah, and we're also looking at the majority of people that are going to prison are also men.
So boys that grow up without a strong and good male figure in their lives, that's the result of it.
Yeah.
And also, I was raised in a single mother home.
I was raised in a single parent home.
And I feel like it's not the greatest environment to grow up in because you have so much of a burden put on you.
I was the oldest, so I kind of was a second parent.
And I just, I don't think it's fair.
Like, I don't think everyone has the right to be a parent.
And like, yeah, I don't think freezing eggs is an ethical way to do things.
Would you guys date a single father?
I would.
We would?
That's right.
I love that for you.
Brad Pittsburgh.
Would you pay for the first date?
Did you pay for the first date?
I'm not sure.
So I did date a single father, and it was not in the plans.
I never saw myself doing so.
It was just we were good friends, and it progressed into more.
He was a great guy, but we didn't align on a lot of values, and the kids thing was a problem for me.
Did you meet the kids?
I did, yeah.
I did scold.
I bet you're a great scolder.
I met the kids before we started dating, because, like I said, we were friends.
So I had met them prior to us starting to date.
But yeah, I did realize that in terms of especially how he was a great parent, but we had differences in how I would personally handle things if they were my kids or if we had kids together.
If there would be a lot of issues there, word would you date a single mom?
No.
I don't think I would date a single mom.
Nope.
I wouldn't.
Wait, so okay, just to finish off our little point there.
So you said I was too.
Sorry, gotta spit these out.
Don't look at me while I do it.
Oh, that was really uncomfortable.
You think I'm risk averse when it comes to dating?
Yeah.
Well, and I wonder, too, do you want a traditional woman?
Do I want a traditional woman?
How many women are traditional, though?
It's the thing.
Okay, you know what you got to try, Brian?
Get on bumble.
Get on bumble and set your location in different cities and go find you these women who aren't in LA.
Well, like the thing is, right?
Just one other point with the like not wanting to pay.
A lot of people are dating multiple people, and I've said this before countless times.
One of my one of the reasons I don't want to pay for a first date is I don't want to feel, I don't want to be a sucker.
So like a lot of girls, when they're single and a lot of guys move this way too, they're like dating and sleeping with multiple people.
They're single.
They're hooking up with a person here, hooking up with somebody there.
Have three, three, four, five people that they're fucking or dating in rotation.
And it's like, I reserve, I'm going to reserve that treatment to somebody who's loyal to me.
So you don't get girlfriend treatment until you're my girlfriend.
So if you're, and like most, I think going into a first date, you kind of have to go in in 2023, like assuming this person's like, could be fucking multiple other people right now.
I would feel like a total sucker paying for a girl that just fucked a guy the night before.
So I can understand that.
I can understand that.
I could be going out with a guy and he just fucked like two girls.
How do you get past?
I wouldn't even know.
Like, that's the whole point of you just starting to date somebody.
Like, it's not like privileged information.
I would like to meet a girl that's not moving like or just don't date people who are dating and sleeping with multiple people.
But how do you know?
Because people be lying.
No one told me that.
You can still feel somebody out and like even how quickly they try to advance things with you, you can tell sometimes plenty to know.
Here's the thing, though.
There are girls that their previous 20 sexual partners, they fucked on the first date, and then they meet you.
And then they're like, you know what?
I want a boyfriend.
I'm going to try this out.
Let's wait.
And then they make you wait.
So it's not necessarily an indicator that they don't.
Yales all know this is what you're doing.
Okay, when I, to be fair with you, Brian, one sec.
She had something.
Go ahead.
I said they see something special.
You know, you're worth the wait.
Wait.
No, it was something before I think you had a point on it.
Oh, like, how do you get past that statement?
Yeah, how do you get past that work?
How do you get past the whole, okay, we're just going on dates?
Hey, now you're my girlfriend.
So now I'm going to be paying for all this.
I'm going to be taking you here and there, and you're going to be my parents.
But how do you get past that?
How do you get there?
What does the transition look like from having some trouble?
No.
Well, you said I'm not going to treat you like my girlfriend until you're my girlfriend.
So do you just treat them like aside until you're ready to be like, hey, you'll let me know?
I need to know that you're not talking to other guys and you're just talking to me and that we're exclusive.
So communicate.
But how does she prove that to you?
Well, it takes time.
Right.
Yeah, but like, what are the steps to proving that to you?
Like, do I have to give you my phone?
Like, indicators or like that.
Well, you guys.
I feel like spending time with you.
I think the girl has to be the one that broaches the exclusivity conversation.
Really?
Okay, so conversation.
Yeah, the girl has to be like, will you be my boyfriend?
Trust.
So you trust.
You think that the woman should be asking the moon to get to the table?
Yeah, that's 100% a conversation the girl should initiate.
Do you think the girl should initiate asking out the guy?
No, no, no, no, not asking out the guy, but like you've been dating and what she wants to be a turnover.
Most of the time it is the woman.
I think a lot of men might perceive that to be a turnoff, and I think a lot of women don't want to give any commitment to that.
But if you really like the girl and you've been holding your frame for a while, and then she comes to you and she says, what are we?
And you've held out.
I think it's obvious at some point.
But if you're just fucking a girl and then she's like, what are we?
It's like, yeah, yeah.
Brian, I don't know.
Maybe I'm changing my mind here.
Maybe, I think maybe, okay, this is, I might experiment in just splitting the bill all the time because you know what?
If I split the bill, then I feel like he will feel that he has less.
He won't come on and try to turn things sexual so quickly.
Like, I feel like if I just split, split, split all the time.
Just a second.
I'm not a second donated $99.
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Much appreciated.
Go ahead with your point.
I was just going to say, maybe it'll keep in the guy's mind like we're friends only, we're friends only, and it will keep them from trying things so quickly.
Okay.
If I don't allow him to be paying for me.
Well, there's okay, there's two points there.
So there's definitely like scumbag dudes who feel entitled to sex if they pay for you, which I disagree with.
I think if you there's guys like, oh, I bought you dinner.
Like, that's really scummy if a guy has an expectation of sex.
But the other thing is, like, they'll view it as a friendship.
I don't think, like, I mean, like, as long as you're not.
I think I'm trying to ward off the scummy guys.
Like, oh, okay.
You know, the ones that really do seem like between a man and a woman.
No, no, I'm not saying platonic.
I'm not saying platonic.
No, I don't have close friends.
If you're on a date with a guy, isn't it necessarily like if you've just gone on a date with a guy, I don't think whether you split or not like removes the romantic undertones of no, but if the guy is scummy, because this is what I'm thinking, is like guys that go out and then they pay and then they think like, oh, I can try and come on to her or whatever, you know, and I, that makes me very uncomfortable.
So I'm just saying, I'm just saying, maybe I'll experiment with splitting.
I don't know why you're fighting me on this.
I'm telling you, maybe that maybe You might have to do it.
I mean, it would potentially counter that cohort of men who feel entitled to sex because they've just paid for your dinner.
I think, though, that's really scummy behavior to feel like entitled because you've paid for a girl on a date.
So it could potentially fend those types of dudes off, but romantic.
Yeah.
So, okay, so wow, I've changed your mind.
Congrats.
but I mean yeah I don't know Wait.
Yeah, I'm still confused.
Do you want a traditional woman?
What do you mean by traditional women?
Okay, so do I want a woman with like a low body count who's like feminine?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, because I feel like when you tell girls, oh, you're on OnlyFans, but you want a traditional guy, doesn't make sense.
That's how I feel about you.
Like you want a traditional woman, but you won't take that role in the beginning.
Yeah, that's a fair point.
Because I think you're going to push away a lot of really great traditional women who you would totally be into and vice versa.
Sure.
However, can we agree that the discrepancy between not wanting to pay on the first date, like the let's say the social faux pas or the egregiousness of no offense to the girls here who do OnlyFans doing sex work is like way more non-traditional than a guy who just wants to split the bill.
Like can we agree that that's skewing further away from tradition?
I don't think the tradition matters.
I think how much it can be a red flag in the same way a guy will shut down the body count.
A girl could very well shut down you based off that decision.
And I also think like there's just risks you have to take in dating.
And I think if you, you know.
But I've already laid out the scenarios where like if she's in college and she is, for example, traditional and she's younger, she's not making a ton of money, then I'm more obliged to pay for the first date.
However, if you're a professional career woman, I mean, that in and of itself is kind of non-traditional.
Okay.
I think it sounds like you've kind of just accepted like anybody that that's going to weed out and turn off from seeing you as a romantic partner.
You've kind of accepted that.
You kind of take it as a, well, I don't want to be with that person.
They're not right for me.
And I mean, the other point, the other thing that I would point out when it comes to this is that women who require romance, they're just not really that into you.
Like, because a girl will.
Like a guy who's attractive enough, you're not going to be, even if he doesn't pay, maybe if it's your preference that he pays, if he's attractive enough to you, if you want him bad enough, that's not going to deter you.
But then, like, what do you expect a courtship to look like?
What do you mean?
Like, in terms of getting to know somebody when you first start dating, what do you expect that to look like if there's not going to be any romance involved?
Well, I think you're like exaggerating the term romance a little too much.
Like, we're not, no one's looking to, like, have rose petals laid out on the floor constantly.
When I say romance, basically, just, I mean, as the guy, obviously, paying for, you know, romantic overtures.
Sure.
Flowers, gifts.
Well, those are things that you, like, especially the flowers and the gifts.
Of course, a lot of women appreciate that.
For myself, I love flowers.
Gifts, I don't really care too much about, but I'm a sucker for flowers.
You go on the first date with a guy, he shows up with flowers.
That's too much.
Who said that?
Depends.
You said that?
I think if I'm going on a first-year-old.
Oh, well, hold on.
It's too much.
See?
First date with a guy and he's pulling up with flowers.
I think he's trying too hard.
Exactly, but that's why all this like romantic shit, it's no longer appreciated en masse.
Because as a guy, you're like 50-50, either the girl appreciates it or honestly, more likely than not.
See, I'm just saying, if a guy can show up and be himself, it shows like if he shows up with flowers, I'm wondering, like, okay, is he trying to make up for something that he feels like he lacks?
But why do you think that?
Why is that not just a kind gesture that somebody does?
That's a very confusing gesture.
That's the norm these days.
It's too much.
That's the norm in terms of romance.
But in other countries, I travel a lot and live in Europe quite a bit.
And in those countries, women love that stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm sure it'd be nice.
I guess it's just more so, I mean, it depends on the context of if you've met them previously.
If I met them in person, I guess I'm thinking first date of like, let's say it's off of a dating app.
Let's say it's off of like a dating app.
If it's off a dating app and I'm meeting them for the first person, which I'm not even on dating apps.
Are you on farmers only?
Hypothetically.
Christian Mingle.
What are you on?
I'm not on anything.
I actually don't like dating apps.
Excuse me.
There is a dating app.
It's called Mutual.
Mutual?
Literally, yep.
It is just.
What is soaking?
Is that the thing?
Are we really getting it for that?
Oh, I'm sorry.
Is this huram?
I'm sorry.
I heard it's a thing that's done.
Okay, I don't know.
It is a thing that's.
It's basically.
Sounds like a.
It's just like a loophole for virgins.
I'm vile.
It's not even.
I don't know.
It's just weird.
There's a lot of guidelines, I guess.
Okay, but so you're on Christian Mingle.
You match with a dude.
He brings you flowers.
Turn off.
I guess it's more so like.
I guess, okay, you're right.
It really just comes down to how attractive he is at the end of the day.
And also how confident he is as well.
Because if he's a confident man and he does that and he's dressed up nicely and he gives you flowers, it's going to be like that's a familiarity.
It depends on so many doctors.
They could sweep me off their feet.
Otherwise, or I could just be like, oh.
If he's giving you flowers, like, please, please love me.
Yeah, exactly.
And I guess maybe I've just had some experiences like that.
But flowers is like.
I don't think the flowers are the make or break fast.
Yeah, that's what I was about to say.
Like flowers is never going to be.
Like it's never going to be a maker.
No.
And so it's, of course, just an app.
But it is just an app.
Okay, so when you're, when you're, when you're, especially in the first terms of dating, you, of course, like, have this slow buildup, and it either obviously, like, like takes off or drastically declines, and you stop dating that person.
But there are little things that somebody can do that slowly speed that process along.
If it was a guy that I had known previously as well, if I'd met him, even if it was like I met him in public and he like used the hard way or got my phone number that way and we've been chatting like a little bit, then I feel like that's a different situation from somebody that it's your very first time meeting them.
Like a blind date type situation almost or like a dating app.
See, I still don't agree.
I think that like, okay, obviously, in the sense that we were just talking about, if someone shows up super nervous and really unsure of themselves, flowers aren't going to make or break that situation.
That's them.
But if somebody shows up and is very confident and shows up with flowers, whether it's the first time I'm meeting them or not, I would absolutely appreciate that.
I agree with you on that level.
I think it is how they care about it.
These days, guys have to absolutely wait to do that sort of stuff.
I just want to ask, why is it that you guys so fervently support a patriarchal, traditional belief that men should pay for the first date?
I never said that.
I just stated that.
If you remember the patriarchy, hello?
Absolutely.
Is the patriarchy kind of awesome?
Can you like reverse how great?
I appreciate that.
You know what?
Can I say to the flowers thing?
I think there's a real problem in our society with apathy in general, but especially when it comes to dating, it feels like a contest of who cares less about this relationship.
It's kind of more like nonchalant.
Yeah, it's an exclusively thing that's happening in the West, though.
Guarantee you.
We have a very strange and sick dating culture over here.
And like I said before, you have to really wait before you give those gestures over here.
And even if you're somebody who appreciates romance, you just can't take that chance anymore.
But if you do that in other countries, then women will really, really appreciate it from the jump.
I think because there's a lot of people who have fear about the love bombing thing.
I don't like it.
We can talk about that about just someone super strong.
And like you said, it's just the culture out here.
Like coming on super strong and dragging out of nowhere.
Romance is dead.
We have to get a couple of chats out of the way.
We also, Nick was so kind as to pull up my wick of feet.
Say him.
That's great.
Looking forward to it.
Oh, God.
I was already saying any fans later, but let's go.
Go for it.
Oh, my gosh.
This is a thing.
Control Mouse Wheel Up, please.
I've never heard of this one.
Okay, so somebody made this shit.
Look at my rating.
4.4.
4 out of 5.
What?
You got a 4.4.
Scroll down.
So I don't even know how they found some of these photos.
Wait, what?
Is that you?
Who got that picture?
Oh, that's on my Instagram.
Oh, okay.
Okay, you're just asking.
So does anyone here have a foot fetish?
Nope.
Good.
Thank God.
I'm afraid of people touching my feet.
Brian, how would you feel if you got into a relationship and the girlfriend asks you to take that picture down because your feet are out?
Yeah.
What?
Do you think that's post it?
How are Instagram?
Do you think that would be controlling because your feet are out?
What?
Like, they'd look too good?
No, because a foot fetish, like the term fetish, it's like, I think it isn't something like abnormal that someone's attracted to.
So like, there's nothing inherently sexual about feet.
So like for a girl to ask me to remove, I can't believe I'm analyzing this.
Ridiculous.
I could really ask that as a joke, too.
I'm glad you're going into it.
No, but it would be like, no, that's, well, first off, I think men and women operate differently.
So, like, I don't think, like, even if I had thirst traps on my Instagram, I think men and women's experiences on social media is very, very, Madison, what are you doing?
Come over.
Kamova.
What are you eating?
Popcorn?
Hella mints.
Hella mint.
You're eating.
Do you know how many calories that has?
There's no caloric.
You want some popcorn, girl?
What's up?
I want to eat all my faults.
I got, here, take mine.
Here you go.
There you go.
Here, eat it on camera so they can.
Someone's got to pop popcorn.
I got you.
I got you.
That's going to be somebody's fetish now.
The attention men and women receive online is so vastly different.
So, like, I think it's probably pretty reasonable for a guy to ask his girl to not post certain types of pictures, but it doesn't really make sense for a girl to ask the same because, like, guys really are not posting like sexualized photos on themselves.
The majority of them are not.
The majority of them aren't.
And just the sheer amount of attention that women get versus men is like astoundingly different.
Yeah.
So, like, you can take an average girl with like a thousand followers on Instagram, and she's like, she's getting DMs.
She's getting offers to be flown out.
So, whereas most men, even attractive men, are not really getting DM'd by chicks.
They're not getting maybe occasionally, but men really don't get that degree of attention.
So there's a differential there.
And a lot of that just has to do with the fact that like men, I mean, men are typically the ones who do initiate with women.
if it's the other way around I think women should be simps though so I'm like I have a very honestly not a lot of people know how to handle that Oh, it's great.
Like, if the fucking chick's all over you, like, simping, it's wonderful.
Yeah.
It's great.
I'm saying with certain people in Bury.
I think I've been simply sign mics as like too forward.
Depends on.
I'm curious how everybody feels about that.
Because I don't know how it differs now versus like throughout time a little bit, but the idea of like women, like women asking for a man's phone number or kind of initiating more of that or kind of being like considered forward sometimes.
Like how do you guys, I guess, how do you guys feel about that?
We don't want a girl to be aggressive about it.
But you can still show interest.
You can still take initiative, but do so in like a kind of a feminine way.
What's aggressive?
I've just heard like it's more so like women like or they set the guy up to be in the position to move it forward versus like the woman.
Yes.
Yeah, you're glancing forward.
How do you feel about it?
You're going to direction for two seconds and then that's your sign.
I know please say that.
About their eyelashes or about their aggressive.
If they're like constantly messaging you.
Like I've had a few girls do that where they like will constantly be constantly like replacing.
I think people would like describe it as slingy.
But if like a woman were to slide into your DMs, no, no, that's fine.
If she slides into your DMs, that's fine.
But if she does it once every three days, then that's different.
I think it's annoying.
But if you've made the initial contact, if you've gone on a date and then she simps on you after that, it's glorious.
Okay, so how about if it's them sliding into your DMs versus a friendlier approach, as in like it's like, oh, just like catching up to be friends versus like, hey, like, I think you're attractive.
Let's go out.
Like, how does that differ?
Is that too much then for a woman to say like, hey, no, because if she does that, then I think that she's doing that to a lot of other guys too.
I think it's like a process, you know?
If she's that forward with me, then I'm like, okay, well, then she's obviously forwarded everyone else.
But if it feels exclusive and if it feels like a little bit more rare, then that'll be different.
Also, anything like overtly sexual, like if she's like, yo, let me suck that dick.
It's like, okay.
Relax, later on.
I'm the first chill.
But you like women simping.
What do you mean?
Is that not...
No, no, no.
No, no, no, it's just like two, it's like...
Zimping in a cute way.
I was in like a weird little genuine wishing you had a good day.
Like wishing you had a good day.
Yeah.
Stuff like that.
And also when you're just around, just the two of you at home and she's always got her hands on you.
I know I keep bringing it back, but European girls are great like that.
They're very affectionate.
Even like if you're lying at the beach, they're always just like touching your back and stroking it.
Just like intimacy, but nice, feminine, tender.
Yeah, all that sort of thing.
It's like what simping is for a girl.
She's making it known that she wants you and she loves you.
This is one thing that I think is like people, they've started from what love is and they think like lust is love and intimacy means sex.
When in reality, a lot of it has to just do, has to do with affection and genuine love.
I think with a guy who's like, you know, very busy and career driven and always around other guys and doing deals and like living a very sort of fast-paced masculine lifestyle, that's the perfect balance.
To have that escape as well.
Exactly right.
To have that soft feminine touch is absolutely perfect.
Yeah, if a girl brings you peace, that's huge.
That's the biggest thing.
Like a girl that gives you a headache, as you said, if you're a guy and you're businessman, if you have a stressful life when it comes to work, you need a chick that brings you peace.
There is no feeling in the world, like a woman's warmth in that regard.
And that's something I think can be so important as far as balancing a household is for those who I guess do want to go with more of the traditional route.
It's like the woman is able to take that load off the menu.
Exactly right.
There's also one of the greatest things that you can experience is somebody making a home for you.
100%.
Coming home and there's food on the table and like, you know, the house is clean.
It's such a wonderful feeling.
And if a woman does that, she can honestly take a guy who operates at 95% to 100%.
And that's a big difference.
When you get to the upper echelons like that, when a guy's operating at a high level, to have a woman there who can push him to that next level, it's a big thing.
Men want peace and love and a caring touch from their girl.
And men, or sorry, women want security and protection.
Yeah.
And also to use that social calibration that you guys are so good at.
Very observant.
Like there was a study done where they put people into a waiting room.
They thought they were doing something else, like a different study.
And they brought them out of the waiting room after like half an hour.
And they said to the man and the woman, like a bunch of different people, what did you notice?
And the girls were telling them all the details of the room and everything.
And the guys were like, oh, I don't remember anything.
So women are much more observant socially.
So if you guys can use that superpower to observe exactly what your man needs and take him to that next level, honestly, it's a genuine superpower.
Well, that's something I think is so important, especially we're talking about feminism earlier.
It's become like, what's the better gender?
Like who can do more and trying to compare.
It's like comparing apples and oranges when in reality it's like we were designed to complement each other and work together rather than compete in the same way.
That notion is being destroyed though, because feminism tells you you don't need to do anything for a man.
You're independent, boss babe, all of this sort of crap.
Whereas really, we both complement each other and we both do things for each other and there's nothing wrong with that.
There's nothing wrong with living a life where you want to secure a mate and a partner and a long-term relationship with somebody you can build a legacy in a family with.
As well as like if both, I mean and if both want to work, I think that's great.
Like I definitely like would love to like stay at home as well, but I know I want to still be out and about and have my own things going on with that.
But just the idea of like parents being away from the kids so much, both working super stressful and then coming home and being stressed with the kids, that doesn't, like, there's no balance to that.
There's not really anything that's going to help take that load off at the end of the year.
There was a study done in 2019 that found that the average American family parents spend, I think it's 36 minutes of quality time with their children a day.
And the rest is just the bluehead teachers.
Right, exactly.
Go to school for six to eight hours a day and learn God knows what.
Yeah.
Okay, so one question really quick related to this, then we'll do, we'll finish up on our chats, then we're going to wrap up here because we've gone quite long tonight.
Okay, related to this, to our point about the attention that men and women get on Instagram, social media, starting with you, Grace, how many DMs would you say?
I know you're in a relationship right now.
Have you gotten like a lot of DMs?
How many DMs do you get a week, a month?
I get, I'm not like getting all the guys, but I get like one or two DMs a week, but they're not from very interesting, like any guys that I would give any chance to.
Sure.
Priya, what about you?
How are the DMs looking?
Nothing too.
Any blue check mark?
Well, you can buy blue check mark now, so they've lost their value.
Nothing too crazy.
How many D, like in terms of volume, though, how many DMs do you get?
Probably a handful a week, but in terms of them being like outrageous, you know, claims, like sugar daddy kind of stuff, I think maybe I've had like a total of 10 ever, at least that I've seen.
Okay, 10 sugar daddy offers, and then a bunch of normal dudes?
Probably just randos, yeah.
Wait, so you want the sugar daddy offering?
No, I don't want any of them.
You don't want any of them, okay.
What about you?
How are the DMs?
Probably a handful a week, but also I have my handle on my dating profile so that they can see who I am outside of the six photos.
So a lot of them come from there.
Sure.
I don't post on Instagram, so.
No DMs?
You've never gotten DM'd?
No, I don't think so.
Okay, that's fine.
I probably get a good amount of DMs weekly, but I am not currently looking.
So situationship.
Yeah, it's getting in the way of things.
Honestly, I'm not the most active on Instagram.
I kind of just get like the random, like every now and then, maybe like one or two every few weeks kind of thing.
Sometimes like mutual friends kind of thing.
Okay.
Well, because I do OnlyFans, everything's mostly just like slide-ups on the thirst traps.
Okay.
But like things I would actually take seriously.
Maybe like two, three fingers on my hand, I can count them.
But yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
How many DMs you getting?
Like weekly?
Yeah.
It depends what it depends what I'm doing that week, I guess.
How much do you think?
Just like an average, like every month.
I would say.
10, 20, 30, 100 plus.
Around like the 10, 15 or so.
A month?
About, yeah.
I just prefer like more in-person anyway.
I would say like a nice amount, but it honestly just really, really depends on what I'm posting.
Like on my stories, what pictures I'm posting.
Bikini pick, yeah, we're going to get a nice amount.
But if I don't post anything, not really too often, I don't know.
That's like a lot of times.
It depends, yeah.
It really, it honestly just really depends.
Okay.
Got it.
Good to know.
Good to know.
Let's get these chats out the way.
Then we're going to do a brief after show.
Then we're going to wrap.
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Okay, we have Don A here.
Dine and Dash is a real thing when it comes to women on dates.
I've stopped dating because of it.
It is bad.
All seems good.
Then ghost.
Note, I'm 6'2, 180 pounds, and well enough off that I don't need to worry.
Yeah, I think Jake from Rattlesnake TV, have you ever had an experience where you take a girl out, dinner, everything seemed good, then you never hear from her again?
Yeah, I've had plenty.
I mean, I can't really think of one off the top of my head, but yeah, it's definitely happened before.
But are you talking about dates where I've paid for it and then they've ghosted it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think.
I've got to be funny.
Yeah, I had one.
I've done some dining dashes myself.
I actually got arrested once for doing a dining dash when I was younger.
Yeah, a little Asian man chased me with a spatula and then I sprained my ankle and he sat on me for a while and then I got to go.
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What kind of family background does everyone on the panel come from, and what kind of roles are you all looking for in a relationship?
Okay, so family background, let's just say, are your parents throughout, are your parents still together?
Were they divorced young?
What kind of roles are y'all looking for in a relationship?
So what's the familial situation?
Did your parents divorce when you were young?
Single mother or household?
What was that situation?
And then currently, present day, what kind of roles are you looking for in a relationship?
50-50 or more traditional?
Go ahead.
So I grew up with my parents together.
Very, honestly, I'm very blessed for this, but a very healthy family life.
And I'm honestly looking for someone.
I was like a while ago, I was like, oh, I don't want to get married at all, but I've kind of grown into this view that I actually do want to have a man that can kind of take care of me.
I'm not sure if I really want kids right now, but I think that like being able to travel with them and like having them protect me and take care of me spoil me in a sense, like I would absolutely love that, honestly.
So I guess I'm more traditional, but not because I don't know if I want kids yet.
If I meet someone where I do want them and I'm like, oh yes, I want you to put a baby in me, then you do want kids.
It's just met of the right.
It just depends.
Yeah, 100%.
Like I would love to have a kid.
Yeah.
And just since we're running a little bit low on time, I just ask if you can try to keep your answers brief to this one.
Go ahead.
No, you're fine.
You're fine.
I guess my parents separated when I was eight and then me and my mom were single together like after that and had a stepdad shortly a little bit after for the for the rest of my adolescence or whatever and uh I would say like closer to a 50-50 role is what I'm looking for like yes the other it's great but I don't like I don't like expect everyone else to provide other shit like that.
Sure.
My parents are divorced, married when I was like one or two, divorced when I was four.
I'm looking for a 100-hundred relationship.
Nothing's perfect, but you know, we'll work on it.
100-hundred relationship.
So like, when I say 50-50, I mean, like, yeah, I know, like, oh, 100-100.
Both people should be putting in maximum effort.
I get that.
But are you wanting to, like, when it comes, for example, like down to split the bill?
I mean, if we're married, yeah.
What do you mean?
No, no, I mean, like, first date.
First date, who, if you asked me out, then I would expect you to pay.
If I asked you out, I'm paying.
Have you ever asked a guy out on a date?
Yeah, I've asked people out on dates.
More often, more often than guys ask you out on dates?
I guess, but I don't go out on dates often.
But I won't go out on a date if I, you know, not making sure that, like, if I'm able to pay the bill, I'm going on a date.
But if I'm like a guy with like a blue check mark and like that 100,000 followers and like wants to take me to the bougie restaurant, I'm probably not going to go because, you know, it's intimidating.
I don't like Instagram dating.
And it's also like, that's what you expect every single date.
I like, you know, picnics, beach dates.
Okay.
What about you?
I grew up in a two-parent household.
My parents divorced like a year before I left the house, I guess.
And then they're both remarried now.
I think like traditional gender roles can be 50-50.
just depends on like what it is it's 50 50 like regardless it's gonna be I don't I just see traditional, like, more balanced.
It's just, it's not necessarily going to be financially like, you know, I'm okay bringing in less money.
I probably prefer that so that I can focus on the home life more.
Okay, so my parents were together until about a year after I graduated high school.
And then my dad married his high school sweetheart, and my mom actually passed away a few years ago, so that happened.
I fall under the traditional side just because I like to take care of my man, and I'm the caregiver.
When you say take care of your man, how did that sort of manifest itself when you were barreling down the highway at 120 miles per hour?
So that was maybe like, that was two years ago.
Oh, okay, you've changed.
Yeah, you've changed.
Okay, okay.
Good for you.
My parents were never together.
I spent most of my time at my great-grandparents growing up.
And ideally, I'd love to be a housewife.
Being a pilot's just kind of my backup plan if I don't find a man.
My parents were married for about 35 years before my father passed away unexpectedly from cancer, but they were together until he died.
What I'm looking for in a relationship, I mean, it will depend a little bit on if there's kids involved or not.
So I'm not sure what it would look like for me.
Sure.
My parents divorced when I was about 10, 11 years old.
Never had a great relationship with my father growing up.
I was very close with my mom and my mom's side of the family in terms of what I'm looking for in a relationship.
I would say that I'm pretty traditional, not totally traditional.
I love working, so I would like to hustle in my early and mid-20s and then kind of slow down a little bit when I have kids, not fully retire, but want to dedicate a lot of time for the kids.
Awesome.
My parents are divorced.
My dad left on my birthday when I was 10, and I was with my mom and my three siblings.
And then I want to have a really traditional family with a bajillion kids and be a stay-at-home mom.
But I do want to work because I love working as well.
Yeah, my parents were together until my old man passed away.
But in terms of relationships, I'd say I'm very traditional in my views.
So I'd want to have a girl that's going to be probably contributing to what I'm doing and the business, and probably a stay-at-home mom, maybe even homeschool.
So probably pretty far down the traditional route to me.
We've been giving each other a few little bests every now and then.
Homeschool or private schooling.
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah, that's the setup I'd want to go with.
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All right.
I think we're fully caught up on Super Chats.
There were just two last things we had to do.
Really quick, since we sort of touched on this, the whole who should or the paying thing.
I want you all to think of your celebrity crush.
Would you expect him to pay for the date?
Or would you like let it slide because he's your celebrity crush, you know?
Like you, okay, a girl looks at who's like, I'm trying to, Andrew Tate often likes to cite to Chris Brown.
You see Chris Brown in the club.
You think he's going to be loyal to you.
You think he's going to pay for you on a date?
No, you're just going to like, he's so high status.
You're just going to fuck him and you don't care.
I would not go out with him again if I split a date.
If a celebrity took me out or my dream guy.
I have a couple dream celebrity guys.
But no.
You're that black and white with it.
I am.
There's also studies that in the beginning of relationships, like men tend to invest more, and later down the line, women actually put in more investment in the relationship.
So I don't think it's so black and white as traditional or non-traditional.
And I think it's a good sign.
I'm going to have to see that study.
I don't know.
Yeah, go ahead.
You're going to have to send that shit to me.
But yeah, I'm pretty black and white with it.
Chris Brown is not a great example.
I don't know why Tate cites to that person.
I think you lost me real quick on that one.
I don't know.
You see, like, Drake in the club.
Is that?
I don't know if that's a great example, too.
But, like, a lot of these girls who'd be like, oh, I'd never, the guy has to pay.
But, like, if a guy's attractive enough or high status enough, all your rules go out the window.
Incorrect.
Hunt.
No, all your rules go out the window.
You're going to break rules for like really high status attractions.
I think if they are high status, that should show even more, like that they're in even more of a position to lead and to come forth in that way.
Yeah.
But I don't think that's true.
You would throw those rules out the window if he wasn't willing to do that.
No.
I don't think so.
Whereas the guy who's making an average income, he better pay for the first date.
But like a really high-status guy who's more than capable of paying, it's like.
I'm definitely going to pay for Miss Rihanna's bill for sure.
Rihanna?
Yeah.
Do you swing both ways?
I swing always.
I'm pansexual.
You like pants?
Do you know what?
I hate that joke.
Damn you.
It doesn't need to be expensive.
He can just bring you to coffee.
He can take you to a taco truck.
Like, this isn't, we're not asking him to spend on like a five-course dinner.
Like, go somewhere that you can afford to make a nice gesture.
If it's coffee, it's coffee.
If it's tacos, it's tacos.
If he wants to take you to oysters, fine.
But like choose something.
I just think it's a better way.
It's also less confusing.
Like you just know what's going on.
Third to last thing here, I want to come back to this.
All of you said, except for, I believe, Brittany and Grace, that you're either Brittany, you're in a situation shift, Grace, you're in a relationship.
The rest of you are brutally single, very single.
I'm just saying.
I'm not totally brutal or very single.
Fair enough.
I'm just single.
Fair enough.
But what does that actually mean?
So I want to get a better sense of what you mean by being single.
So you say you're single, but come on.
When's the last time you were hung out with a guy romantically?
Look at you.
Smile cheek to cheek.
Last night.
Last night.
No, no, no.
By the way, how do you wipe?
I'm just curious.
Mind your business, sir.
Oh, no, those are sharp questions.
One question at a time.
Okay, my bad.
I'm curious.
Okay, so what was going on last night?
You had a little ting last night, didn't you?
Tell us about it.
I was actually going to sleep early so we can get ready for today.
Okay, fine.
48 hours ago.
What was going down?
Friday night.
LA.
You guys live in degenerate Los Angeles.
What was going down?
You guys were at some posh nightclub, right?
You two are girlfriends, right?
What?
You two are girlfriends, right?
Not like friends.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, like, Friday night, what were you guys doing?
Working together?
At the strip club?
We went to bed.
We went to bed super early because we had a photo.
Are you guys housemates?
No.
We were just with each other a lot.
All the time, yeah.
Hold on.
Is there something here between you two?
That's my wife.
That's a love of my life.
We're getting married.
No, no, no.
We're not married.
No, no, no.
They're asking if there's something going on.
Oh, between us romantically?
I don't know why I'm thinking.
Wait, what's the question?
I think, yes, just like that.
No, we're not romantically dating.
Okay, well.
We're not into.
Andy donated $100.
They were doing the same.
No, we weren't.
We haven't.
We have not done that.
Reading a book.
Thank you, Andy.
Thank you.
Not yet.
Okay.
So, look, you're saying you're very single or whatever.
I don't know who's.
I think, I don't know if you said you're very single.
I'm very single.
Okay, but.
Well, no, no, I mean I'm very single, meaning like, I haven't been hiccing out on a date.
When's the last time you hooked up with somebody?
I don't know if they want their business out like that to save a day.
We don't have to know who it is.
Last night.
Last night.
We knew.
Last night.
Okay, last night was the girl or a guy.
Damn.
Why are you?
Huh?
What?
It was a man.
It's okay.
It wasn't me.
It wasn't Burke.
He's lost night.
You want to say pansexual last night?
This is a safe space.
Is it?
I'm a little personal.
It's a service.
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Wow.
Thank you, Barry.
What?
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Okay, so for you, it was last night, Burke.
What about you?
Oh, my God.
Same God?
No.
No, no, no.
Next question.
I hate that.
No, not that.
Burke, come on, what you got for us?
You said you're single.
I am, yeah.
When's the last time you hooked up somebody?
Miss single.
Does.
Does my dodo go?
What the fuck?
No, no, no, no.
That's an inanimate object.
It's not a someone.
We need like a person.
It could be someone who identifies as a drag.
I don't know what it would.
I don't know.
A they, them, a she, a her, a zur, whatever, whatever you want to know.
Can I say no comment?
Like, no comment?
No.
Just rat on your.
Was it last night?
No comment.
That's my girl.
No.
Wait, were you guys out together?
Were you guys out together?
We didn't go out anywhere.
We didn't go out.
Closer to the mic.
We didn't go out anyway.
Andy donated $100.
She was like Knight 2 don't light night 2.
Don't let her last night.
I think you mentioned that.
She was out.
I mean, she's not lying about working last night.
She was definitely doing that thing.
Were you shooting a scene for OnlyFans?
No, no, no, no.
Wait, question.
Do you guys, who of you does BG content?
BG content?
No.
Solo?
Solo, GG.
Solo.
Solo.
What about you?
Do you do BG content?
Yeah, I do.
Okay.
When's the last time you lost?
Now you're getting like me.
Okay, what about you?
What about you?
Very single.
When's the last time you hooked up somebody?
Into the mic, please.
Last hookup?
I don't know.
I'm gonna say it's been a little bit of a dry season, so like maybe like a week or so ago.
That's a dry season maybe a week ago.
Less than a fortnight.
Okay.
It's a desert out here.
Wait, Burke.
Burke.
Do it.
Answer the question.
Okay, do it.
Otherwise, Shia LaBeouf is going to fucking pop through that screen.
Yesterday, you said tomorrow.
So just do it.
Make your dreams come true.
Just do it.
Okay.
It was last night.
It was last night.
But not this is not the same man.
This looks like a bunch of people.
No, no, no.
Are you guys swingers?
Is this the origin type shit?
It looks and sounds bad, but no.
I definitely had no idea.
Okay.
You're getting like a what?
What is it?
I was going to say, just, you know, like the whole like crazy, what's it called?
Swinger party thing.
Like, no.
Sex cults, you know.
No, no.
What is it?
Nylum?
Was that the one?
The sex cult?
No, it was like, that's what I do.
Has anybody here been in a sex cult?
I've got the oldest, like, a many anti-Priya looking at you, just kidding.
A sex cult?
Have any of you been branded?
Anyone here have a brand?
No, sorry.
Like the body.
Oh no.
Does anyone have a track?
Like a cow?
Yeah, no.
I'm not an external.
Oh, you want to?
Aubrey?
Yeah.
Did I get your name right?
Yeah, like I said.
Okay, just double checking.
When's the last time?
I don't do hookups.
If that's a relationship, like I don't do hookups.
You don't, you don't.
Never.
I've like, I mean, has there been some indiscretions in your past, Aubrey?
You want to share with us Mormon.
I'm sorry.
It depends on who you ask.
I mean, I've definitely like, I've never been someone who's like, oh, that person's really hot.
I just want to go make out or like mess around with them.
Like, it's so much, it's always been deeper than that.
But yeah, no, I guess like my last relationship was the last time I like was with somebody in that way.
When did your relationship end?
Almost three months ago.
Oh, three months ago?
Okay.
So has it been three months?
Oh, saved by 100%.
Just do it.
Just do it.
My bad.
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Much appreciated, man.
Good to see you in the chat.
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Huh?
Yeah, no, I haven't hooked up with anybody.
Okay.
I don't do hookups.
Brittany's in the situationship.
What about you?
Well, you're born-again virgin, so I'm assuming nothing recently?
No, nothing recently.
Okay.
What about you?
Last time I had sex with someone.
Okay.
When you word it like that.
What hookup does that?
I don't.
Yeah.
So sex.
Maybe it was about three months ago.
Okay.
I thought the original question was the last time you went out with somebody.
No, I'm pretty sure it was about sex.
Not since my last relationship.
Okay.
Cool.
I'm a virgin.
Yeah, you're.
What's that called?
Oh, I said I'm a virgin.
Oh.
Did not know this.
Did not know this.
Are you waiting until marriage?
Yes, I am.
Congratulations.
That's awesome.
Anybody else here waiting until marriage?
Do I count?
I am.
I'm in a similar boat where I don't know for marriage but I definitely waiting until it's like more I mean like I've only in committed relationships anyway but like more heavily committed I guess like leading into marriage.
Wait, and that's how like all your previous times you've been previously it's it's been in relationship.
I don't yeah, like I said, I don't do hookups.
I don't do that stuff.
But yeah.
Also, point of clarification, when someone says hookup to you guys, do you think that that means one night stand?
Because for me, when I think hook, I just mean think sex when I think hookup.
I was assuming you meant like if I'm not dating someone, that's not where I'm at.
Because you could hook up with someone here in a relationship.
Anyone I've reached those levels to, I've had like full intention of like having a relationship with.
Right.
So yeah.
Well, I've had some mistakes in the past.
Not like some.
Oh.
What?
Tell us more.
Say more.
Not anything like crazy.
When you made some mistakes.
Well, more so like I've always held myself to that standard, so there's just like an incident where I like didn't.
And not anything like crazy.
Don't like everyone's going to jump to like the craziest things, but it was enough for me to learn like I don't find value in putting myself in those situations or like want to.
Lessons not learned or lessons repeated and some things I just don't need to learn again or do again.
Cool.
Okay, I think that's that.
Okay, we have one quick, two more quick things.
Nick, can you pull up the Google search tab?
There's a girl with pink hair that we need to pull up.
So this is a question for Jake and for the chat.
Would you date?
This is the girl in the thumbnail.
Would you date a girl who had pink hair?
Is it a red flag if a girl has pink hair or like the girl in this photo here or blue hair?
Not particularly.
I mean, if she's a super traditional feminine woman who's, you know, got her head switched.
Scroll down.
It wouldn't bother me.
But I mean, I'm more into brunettes.
You're more a brunette.
If she's a pink-haired feminist, then absolutely not.
But if she's a pink-haired girl who just likes pink hair, then go for it.
I mean, this is a question for the chat.
Chat, is it a red flag if a girl has color hair?
So red, blue, pink?
Do you think it's a red flag?
Could it be indicative of her politics maybe?
Can someone have daddy issues?
Who knows?
Who knows?
I think the politics do tend to.
I'm not going to say all the time, but they do tend to kind of go a little bit more.
When we're doing street videos, my brother and I, we'll always look for colored hair if we want to get like a controversial or funny take from somebody.
If we're doing an interview, like when we were asking if America's racist, we were desperately looking for someone with blue or purple or green hair.
But it's definitely changed.
Oh, what it makes sense.
It's definitely changed because even, because obviously I'm in the industry of hair and all that, like it used to be more of like an artistic thing and it's definitely swayed way more to it.
It says a lot most times about your political I think it was like even though like the artistic thing has always been quite like a liberal leaning people people who are more high in creativity and openness tend to lean a little bit more liberal.
Yeah.
And the last thing we're going to react to before we finally wrap up is we have a Andrew Tate video.
This is a new one.
It's kind of out there a little bit.
It has to do.
Well, okay, why don't we just play it?
And actually, before we play it, what's your hydration like?
Do you guys drink a lot of water?
I drink a lot of water.
Would you guys say you drink a lot of water?
100%.
Yeah, Priya?
Yes, absolutely.
You're a hydro person?
I've got a gallon in my car right now.
Sweet.
What about Aubrey over there?
You drink a lot of water?
spend my days outside knocking doors for like six to eight hours a day so you're a camel because you know i've had experience you know a lot of i i noticed this and tate is about to you know enforce what i'm about to say A lot of chicks don't be drinking water.
I don't know, you guys, I hang out with you guys for seven hours straight.
You don't drink a drop of water.
What the fuck?
Or pH level?
Y'all just be drinking coffee and shit.
I don't know if I'm Starbucks.
Who's what is still full in?
Water is like the only thing that drinks.
And maybe like it.
Stay away from this.
Please kindly play.
Can you put it full screen?
I don't know which one that is.
I think it's the furthest one of it.
I think it's okay.
Go ahead.
Hold on before you play it.
Let's just let everyone gather their peace.
Okay, go ahead.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
Video tab, please.
Video tab.
He's got the beard in the game.
Okay, go for it.
I was supposed to do another taste.
In fact, I'm going to have to film two today.
See how hard I work for you people.
Because when I opened this can of water, it reminded me of a simple fact.
A fact which has annoyed me for a very long time, and I've yet to talk about it.
So we're going to talk about it.
Women don't drink water ever.
Now, when I say this, people go, what do you mean women don't drink water?
Because like with all my ta speeches, at the beginning, people think I'm talking shit.
And by the end of it, they're like, you know what?
He's right.
Hang around with a group of guys long enough, right?
There's usually a bottle of water around.
A guy's usually carrying a bottle of water.
You'll see a man grab a bottle of water and drink a liter, throw the bottle away.
Me personally, I drink these cans of sparkling water.
I tear through 5,000 cans a month.
All I do is drink these.
I must drink 30, 40 a day.
I'm never without them near me.
Ice-cold sparkling water all the time.
I'm always drinking water.
It's all I do.
It's next to my bed.
I drink as soon as I wake up.
I drink before I go to sleep.
When I'm working, I have water next to me.
All I do is drink water.
And if you notice any group of men, you're going to say the same thing.
Hang around with a bunch of guys and see someone with water.
Then hang around with a group of girls.
Now, most of you pussies probably don't hang around groups of girls very often, but I'm that guy who's often been sitting there with 20 chicks.
Nobody has any water with them.
Nobody hydrates.
When's the last time you've seen a woman say, I'm dehydrated, I want to hydrate?
When's the last time you've seen a woman quickly grab a bottle of water and just finish it off?
Ever.
Now I say this.
People go, hmm, I guess.
But I want you to actually go out in the world and pay attention to this, and you'll realize how astutely true it is.
Women do not hydrate.
And why that annoys me is because women are also the ones who are constantly, endlessly complaining about these phantom headaches.
They're the only ones who do it.
I don't believe that heads just hurt for no reason.
If I got a crippling headache, I'd be genuinely concerned.
Maybe I've been poisoned.
Maybe I have brain tumor.
I don't just get headaches.
My hand doesn't just start to hurt.
I've hurt it somehow.
So if I was going through life and I had a really bad headache, I'd think, wow, something's happened to me.
But women just go through life.
I have a headache.
I have a headache.
I'm a headache.
I need pills.
You don't need pills.
You need fucking two liters of water.
You don't drink anything.
I've been in Dubai with women who end up having a heat stroke.
I've seen them do it.
I've seen them lay in bed.
I don't feel well.
Oh, I feel sick.
I need to go home.
You're in the desert.
And you want, what, two martinis?
That's all you've drunk today?
Two martinis and a fucking cigarette?
They don't drink water ever.
I don't know how they survive.
I don't know.
When they finally decide they want to hydrate, it's usually some garbage.
Starbucks maca latte with cream.
Just pure sugar crap.
I don't know how females are alive.
I don't know how they survive.
Now, I am advocating for the health of women.
Before everyone calls me a fucking misogynist and tries to put me in jail for saying that women don't drink enough water, I'm saying the world would be a better place if everybody, male and female, was hydrated.
This is not a gendered argument.
I believe in hydration for all.
Before the fucking MSM, have a breakdown.
I'm just making an observation.
I don't see women drink water ever.
And anybody who disagrees with it, start to pay a little bit more attention, be more perspicacious, and you'll see, as you go through life, you'll start seeing groups of women.
You'll see none of them have any water ever.
Or when they say they're thirsty, they order a drink, which is not hydrating.
It's just some sugar crap garbage.
You never see women hydrate ever.
And next time you see a woman who says, I have a headache, have you got any painkillers?
When's the last time you drank two liters of water, young ladies?
When is the last time?
That's what I literally say.
When's the last time you drank two liters of water?
What do you mean?
I had a headache.
You have a headache because you dehydrated.
That's why you have a headache.
When's the last time you drank water?
No, I just need painkillers.
You don't need painkillers.
You need fucking water to drink.
By extension, we're going to quickly flip over.
This whole idea of random headaches is something that has to go.
Okay, we get it.
It upsets me and that noisy.
I don't know why we're reacting to this.
Any thoughts from anybody on the panel?
I've never thought about hydrate properly.
This is very important when it comes to dating.
Drink water, folks.
Do it.
Very important.
Get your gallon in a day.
You've got to drink water.
We're made mostly of water.
So you don't have to be a drink.
So you get a lot of headaches.
I know a lot of people that do not actually drink water.
They drink iced tea.
They drink coffee.
They drink soda.
But they do not drink water.
I know people or women.
People or women.
It's actually both.
I know a few men that do the same.
My grandpa throws up if he drinks water straight up.
Based.
He just only drinks monsters all day.
But these people that I know, they are not healthy.
Word.
I mean, I don't know.
The people that I do see that don't drink water either, they don't have headaches, but I don't know.
So these are the same people that are going to fast food restaurants and they're not getting the proper macronutrients in their diet.
Ording a triple core panda with the dot cook.
Right.
And calling it food.
Yeah, not food.
Okay.
Well, what we're going to do is we're going to do a short after-show.
So if any of you want to stick around for the after-show, you're welcome to.
But I know we've gone late.
So if any of you want to take off, you're also welcome to.
Madison will be hosting that brief after show.
So, guys, last call.
Hit that like button, please, on your way out.
Big thank you for tuning in tonight.
You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me.
I appreciate that.
Thank you to everyone who so graciously super chats, donates, tips, and supports the show.
Really appreciate it.
Thank you for all the super chats and TTS, et cetera, et cetera.
Big thank you to the wonderful panel tonight.
This was probably one of the more, I don't know how I would describe it, based panels we've had.
It was pretty, you know.
I was hoping you guys would argue with me a little bit.
I want to with you?
I wanted some arguments.
I'm telling you about your outfit choices for people.
What the fuck?
What's wrong with you?
Yo, honestly, Brian, like, I think the flattening of the music is.
Look at you.
You're wearing a little crop.
I know.
Is that a tank top?
I was going to bring a flannel.
I was going to bring a flash.
Come on, Aubrey.
Let's see what you got.
I just started working on my arms.
Let's see that I want to work on my arms coming.
You're wearing a little bit of a high-waisted jeans.
Yeah.
What's that necklace you've got?
What's that say?
It's Kendra Scott, Brian.
It's a nice one.
You have another woman's name.
Thank you.
You have another woman's name.
Very classy.
Yeah.
On your own.
Bro, Pruma, what, huh?
Joggers.
You still are not joggers.
Oh, joggers?
I don't know what these are.
These are some weird hot shoes.
You got flannels tapping.
They think I'm not a virgin.
Okay, here, lay up on the table.
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm kidding.
Yeah, that's probably the key.
Where's the stir-up?
Okay.
What?
What?
You want the stirrups?
I like flannels.
Listen, Brian.
I wear flannels.
I get made fun of.
I have someone.
Wait, where do you live again?
Right now I live in Colorado, but before that, I was living in Utah.
I usually live in Utah.
I go to school in Utah.
Flannels are found in Colorado.
You're from Kansas.
I'm from Kansas.
You don't really have an accent.
Am I supposed to have an accent?
You are 100%.
If you're from Kansas, you must have an accent.
What would a Kansas accent sound?
actually a law do you want can you just what would a Kansas what would that sound like Go ahead.
Ha, I'm from Kansas.
I lack me a girl who don't wear tank tops and who lacks flannels.
You're giving Forrest gump right now.
Forrest gump, huh?
That's a little too southern for Kansas.
Excuse me.
Run, Farrest.
Run.
That's what you can do.
Isn't that from Kansas?
Isn't Kansas is like a southern accent?
Kansas is literally smoked up in the middle of the country.
They don't have southern accents.
I mean, I have spent most of my life in Kansas.
Kansas?
Kansas.
I don't know.
Wait, what's there a famous movie that took place in Kansas?
Superman.
The Wizard of Oz.
The Wizard of Oz.
Oh, the Wizard of Oz, also.
But Superman is from his.
Oh, he's talking shit on my flannels.
No, I literally, I was going to bring a flannel, and then...
You should have worn a flannel, but we could have been matching.
It was dark green, and you said we can't wear dark green.
I actually probably was going to wear a flannel.
But I'm glad I didn't now because I would have been made fun of with you.
You messed it up, Brian.
It's good.
Whatever.
See, I'm more trying to avoid like the vomit color.
You know?
Like the green.
Okay, you know what?
Never mind.
Anybody else?
I don't know.
I don't even know.
I have a question for you, Brian.
Should we save it for the after show?
You want to stick around for the after show?
Sure.
Okay.
By the way, just show of hands, who wants to stay for the after-show?
Yeah, that's fine.
No, no, no, that's fine.
You don't have to.
That's why it's the after show.
It's like the after-show.
So you, Priya, Madison, Grace, you got to.
I have to go.
That's totally fine.
Totally fine.
Okay, cool.
We're going to wrap up here.
So lastly, big thank you to our chat mods.
Any women who want to be on the show, DM at whatever on Instagram if you want to be on the show.
We will be live again Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
I got a very good show planned for you.
We have Matt.
Stay safe.
He was previously on.
You guys really liked him.
He's going to be back on Tuesday.
And yeah, be sure to tune in for that show.
Anyways, guys, thank you for tuning in.
The after show is about to start.
Can we get some, for those of you leaving, can we get some 07s in the chat?
And please say farewell to the guests who are now going to be departing.
Madison, I pass it over to you.
That was such a weird entry.
That was the most awkward ending.
I'm gonna grab your charge.
COVID, last thing, last thing.
Oh, for the after show, TT we're gonna do, we'll do TTS.
I think we'll lower TTS and super chats will be 20 and up.
Oh, actually.
Let's leave this on.
It's a bit better lighting.
But, yeah, okay, all right.
So Super Chats, we'll do 20 and up on YouTube.
And then I'll change this.
So guys, the after show is now commencing.
I should have a theme song for the after show.
You're sticking around?
We're going to have you move over to this side.
If you want to sit there, I guess.
Kiki needs to get involved a little bit more of the after shows.
I wasn't expecting that.
we could we could do that um yeah yeah yeah Yeah, we went.
Leaders, super late.
You sit in that chair.
Priya, you can stay in the one that you're in.
49.
Yeah, just stay.
Wait, no, stay there.
Stay there.
Oh, wait, what were you?
Yeah, we're still live.
It's just the weird transition period while we're doing the after show.
Let me save that.
Okay, TTS is now $49.99 and up.
Super Chats are, what's it called?
20, or.
$19.99 and up.
Change that.
Last thing.
Say bye to everybody.
Just more space.
Okay, thank you so much.
Yeah, it feels nice.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
I am the captain now.
I am the captain now.
Bye, nice meeting you.
Drive safe.
This was like blocking my face the whole time.
I think it was hard to do.
Okay, that's it.
The bass gang is still here.
How's your guys' experience?
How was yours?
It was good.
It was good.
I'm a bit jet lagged still from coming all the way from Rome a few days ago.
Where you called?
Well, I was coming from Rome.
From Rome.
Oh, shit.
So I came a few days ago.
So still a bit.
The second half of this podcast, I've been nearly dead, but we're still.
Yeah, having that Red Bull for you.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I came from Rome on Monday.
and I'll be going back to Italy next week.
Are we still talking into the microphone?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Talking into the mic still.
So I came from Rome and going back to Italy next week.
Italy, and then Italy for August, Turkey for September.
And are you making content in all these places?
Normally I just sit myself in one place for a month and we'll just make a bunch of content and then go to the next place.
So how does your content vary from country to country?
It actually doesn't.
We just get Airbnbs and we'll just break down debates and do all that sort of thing.
Got it, okay.
Interesting.
Wait, when you interview people or whatever?
I do do that as well.
I interview people, do debates, break down clips.
Is it centered around dating or what?
No, no.
It's more about culture, politics.
That's the thing.
Wait, so what do you do for work?
I might have missed this.
YouTube.
YouTube.
Oh, oh, okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
So yeah, mainly we break down debates.
We also do like street interviews.
We've got a little travel channel where we go and interview girls as well from different cities and ask them what they're looking for on a guy and so a little bit of dating stuff.
But that's more of a side break.
Yeah, I don't know if you heard, but Brian threw out the idea that we should make whatever worldwide and just have other people stream in different countries because the dating culture is so different everywhere.
If you ever want to do it, let me know.
There'd be a really good ones to be done in Europe because the values are quite different.
Although many places in Europe are becoming very woke.
What country would you say is your favorite in terms of the values that would be Italy for myself because I'm also Italian?
But they're all getting very woke as well.
They're going very lefty.
And then up north in the Scandinavian countries, they're very woke.
And then the further east you get, the better it gets.
Like Russia, Romania, those sorts of places, they're very traditional, quite conservative.
Hungary's really good as well.
Hungary's beautiful girls, traditional girls, that sort of thing.
And then, yeah, I like Italy the most.
It's a completely different world over there.
It really is.
Yeah, I agree.
It's like the worst place that you've seen.
Dating-wise?
Yeah, probably like South Korea.
Really?
Yeah.
How so?
Like, what's different?
So I actually find Japan's pretty bad as well, but they're very closed off.
They'd never ever flirt with you.
I'm quite a flirtatious person, so I'll walk past girls and make eye contact or just be giving some sort of a vibe and they just don't do it whatsoever.
And they're very culturally homogenous as well.
I guess they really do.
If they are dating, then they won't want to date a guy who's not Korean or not Japanese because that'll bring shame to their family.
What's your background?
Like my ethnic background.
My dad was born in Thailand.
My mom was born here, but they're both Thai.
Yeah, I did a video with Thai girls as well.
Really?
How is that?
Thai girls are very, very open and very receptive.
Yeah.
And they're pretty cheeky as well, actually.
I like Thai girls.
But yeah.
I don't know.
There's a real culture of like if you're a Western, you're basically a walking, talking dollar sign over there.
Yeah, yeah.
They expect you to come over there, pay the bills.
I don't really get, like, we do the videos and stuff, but like, I don't really get time to really date girls or anything.
Yeah.
Because I'm pretty honest about that sort of thing.
I'll go in there and I'll say, I'm only here for like a few weeks.
You mean you're not a passport, bro?
No.
Oh, I mean, I guess you might call me that because I do sort of explore my options over there.
But if I'm only there for like a week or two, I'll just tell the girls and then normally they'll be like, oh, no, it's not fun.
That's honestly good for you, though.
You get to experience the different dating cultures in so many different places.
So you really know what you like.
100%.
And then you come over here and it's quite bad.
It's really bad.
I wouldn't even bother, wouldn't even bother with doing anything over here.
You get girls who are very average with massive expectations.
Yeah.
Honestly, tonight talking to some of you girls has been a breath of fresh air because I thought we were doomed in the West.
Honestly.
Low-key.
Kinda.
Is that the third brand?
Flannel?
I think it's the joggers.
I think if you got some nicer pants.
Brian, it's not like it's nice.
Lululemon.
Some slacks.
There are some slacks.
I have a pair of L's that fit.
It's great for at-home.
If we were to go out on a date, that's not what I would prefer you to wear.
What would you dress briefly?
What do you wear on a date, Brian?
Well, I don't eat McDonald's.
I would never go to McDonald's.
I don't eat McDonald's, so it's a hard no for me.
You didn't get me like running the other direction with the splitting the check.
It's the McDonald's that has me running for the hills.
Beast.
If she ordered off the dollar meal, would you pay for her?
Off the dollar meal?
Are you going to pay for our McDonald's date?
I've saved thousands of dollars.
Do you just want to blow $1,000 at McDonald's one day?
On you?
No, just in general.
What the hell would you spend?
You could do an analysis.
You said you had thousands of dollars saved up for McDonald's.
You'd be able to cure hunger.
Of all the money I've not spent on dates.
I think that well I feel like it varies a lot because you might be able to It depends how many dates you go on.
I was going to say, it definitely depends on the kind of guy you are.
Do you want to give a fit check to the viewers?
Yeah.
Well, it's also a lot of men.
Some men are selective with the amount of dates that they take women on, and then some aren't.
So I guess.
I'll always do something free first.
So right now, Brian's got the blue and black flavor coffee.
The gym dates.
The gym dates.
I don't know.
The left of the collar.
I don't know if I would do a gym date.
A plain black t-shirt and I've gone on gym dates that I had no idea were dates.
Yeah.
So they've just asked you to go for a workout.
Yeah.
Because they don't want to directly ask you to go on a date.
I just feel like that's kind of an odd setting, though.
I agree, but also like.
Especially.
So according to Google, our survey found that women spend a lot less on dates every year than men.
800% of the time.
Yeah.
So men spend almost not quite, but almost double.
That makes sense.
Yeah, it makes sense.
That's the expectation.
So if I ever made you like pay on a date, sorry, you can go for it.
Mine's a little off topic.
Oh, just go.
Go for it.
Question for the men.
I don't know if Brian's listening, but I heard a guy who said that every woman he's ever slept with, he's fallen in love with a little bit.
Have you experienced that?
No, not at all.
Having sex can be like taking a piss for a guy.
Who said that?
For a guy?
Yeah.
It's probably not like that for a girl.
Not for a girl.
For a girl, it's very different.
But for a guy, we can quite easily do it and then not care whatsoever.
Do you converse?
Brian?
Who said that?
It was just a friend of a friend.
So your friend said that they felt like what about if it's like a drunken.
If you're just drunk, you have sex with someone and then you leave them.
This is a male friend.
Yeah, I don't think he necessarily meant like one-night stands, drunk at parties, but even just like situationships or sleeping with a girl a few times, maybe.
I'm not sure the context.
Yeah, I think, honestly, I think girls, yes, but guys can be quite easily very emotionally detached from sex.
Yeah, it really isn't a big deal.
The only reason we want to have self-control with it is because of like, you know, just it's just for that reason, being able to exercise self-control.
But otherwise, it doesn't do any.
I think there's this whole like who hurt you thing with guys.
Like, oh, you know, you have sex with all these girls, you must be damaged.
Not necessarily, you know?
Like, I don't really necessarily think.
I think also a lot of men.
Oh, God.
I honestly have no idea what it is.
Yeah.
No idea.
I think a lot of men also go through Phase in their like late teen, early 20s, especially where they do explore, you know, a lot of sexual activities more than women tend to.
I think that the like I think that women doing so is a growing times.
It's also a competition for guys as well, especially when you're younger, like in your teenage years and early 20s, and there's a lot of stigma attached if you don't, if you don't have sex for a while, if you, if I went to the boys tomorrow and I was like hey, like I haven't had sex in like six months, they'd be like yeah, and that you, you'd be like really self-conscious about it.
So there definitely is an element of that as well where it's like you're kind of like having you, you feel like you have to keep up, keep up with it, sometimes totally yeah.
I guess that's kind of unhealthy when you think about it.
Uh yeah, did we the 1243 one or what is it this one?
Did we show that one already?
Y'all should cater to East Coast, Best Coast folks.
I'm going to want to die tomorrow at work.
What does guy on the panel do for work?
Oh, we just answered that.
Yeah, I'm a youtuber.
Rattlesnake TV.
Mr. Meatball says South America has more traditional women, Western Europe over Eastern Europe.
South America definitely has more traditional women, but they're very fiery as well.
You've got to watch the Latinas.
They're very fiery.
But if you're saying Western Europe is better than Eastern Europe, then no way Western Europe's woke as, like Britain, you can forget about Britain.
Germany extremely woke.
Holland extremely woke Switzerland Austria, all these places.
Eastern Europe is where you want to look.
If you're a quote-unquote passport bro, if you want to go to these places, like you go to Russia right now, all the guys are either conscripted or they left the country.
It's an absolute free-for-all in Russia.
Were you there?
Not yet, but I did a podcast the other day with a guy called Wealthy.
Well, wealthy Expert.
Have you heard of him?
He like helps people, like offshore their businesses.
Yeah, and he's in Russia at the moment.
He was telling me all about it and yep, that's plenty to choose from.
i don't think there's any more Yeah, what were we talking about like right before?
That crazy ability to detach emotionally from?
Yeah, I feel like everyone just goes through a phase for a little bit, like men and women so, but it's a learning experience, you know.
Also, I think there's a again, a biological component to that as well.
Men are designed to repopulate the world.
Where women are, you know, can only have one child at a time, and you know where our lives are essentially dedicated to raising that child.
You think women get more emotionally attached to guys that they do sleep with though, because have you ever heard of pair bonding?
Not that, but Brian might know this, but there's like a thing called alpha widow.
I think it was Rollo Tomasi in one in his book the um.
Okay, I can't remember what the book's called Famous Book um, but yeah, he has this thing called being alpha widowed where, like a girl will date a guy and then like they'll have sex with this guy and then like they'll never be able to look at guys the same again, because they had this guy and he was like the ultimate, the apex predator and then every guy after that.
They can never.
So he's essentially alpha widowed.
Her is what it's called the rational male.
That's what it's called.
That's right interesting.
I, I don't necessarily think so.
I've never heard of that personally.
Um yeah, I feel like it might take longer for women to detach themselves from, like past sexual partners, but I think it it does happen.
Yeah, I I tend to think that, like the more women, the more guys that women sleep with, the more damaged they become for that reason, because they've had so many experiences with so many different guys that they're gonna then compare their partner to all of those different guys Exactly.
I was going to say, I don't think it's necessarily a comparison.
I think it has to do with pair bonding.
I think that you engage, especially with like, especially for women, sex is such an intimate activity.
It's the most intimate activity that you can possibly engage in.
And I think, yeah, the more people that you do partake in that activity with, the more desensitized you get to it.
So.
Absolutely.
I have some thoughts on that.
You said you're right.
I got mixed up about the Western and Eastern Europe thing.
You want to avoid Western Europe.
Great Britain is basically a lost cause.
They're even worse than us.
British girls are.
There's obviously some good ones everywhere, but for the most part, I lived in London for three years.
I lived in a little place called Hackney Week.
And yeah, it wasn't great.
I'm telling you that much.
How many people have you dated in other countries?
Well, I'm not really dating while I'm moving around because I'm just too busy with work.
Yeah.
But I've said like you lived in London.
Yeah.
Did you date in London?
Yeah, I've dated Dutch girls and various different European ones.
Because even my preference when I was living in Australia was foreign girls as well.
So I used to date Brazilians and Colombians and stuff in Australia.
Do you still have a preference?
Do you want to say something?
Yes.
Yes.
Exotic European.
Brian's.
Do you need the helmet too?
All right, here, I'm Maddie.
Hey, Maddie.
What kind of weird shit do you get?
Let you back here.
How's it like looking at the back of my head for five hours?
Is it a good time, Maddie?
You have a great head.
Thank you.
Good head of hair.
Inappropriate hair.
A great head.
Not inappropriate.
I'm surprised you don't pull out more of these props, Matt.
I gotta fucking get away from you.
Well, you told me not to pull out the baby anymore.
I said that?
Yes.
You were like, okay, put the baby away.
So I stopped holding the baby.
Yes.
Sure.
This is a big green for you.
Oh, this is a big test.
You know what I mean?
Here you go, Priya.
And then it's okay.
See how you hold a child.
We're assessing it.
That's a pretty good hold.
I think you gotta speak into the microphone, parents.
Like Angelina Jolia over here with her little adopted African child.
Am I supposed to just hold this for the rest of this time?
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Got it.
Is this rugby?
That's rugby.
Yes, it is.
In Asian countries, they will be working and they'll be having their child on their back or whatever.
And they'll just be working away.
Yeah.
There you go.
It's for you.
Why didn't we bring these props out earlier?
I like those.
Who's the other Asian cham?
You can pick, I don't care.
I think we give Rattlesnake Rattlesnake all.
Yeah, man.
Give me a prop.
The helmet.
What are you doing?
Oh, that's terrifying.
Stop that.
Stop that right now.
I'll let you put it on.
Thank you, sir.
Nice meal.
It's heavy.
It's a heavy one.
What's your name again?
Aubrey.
Brian, Aubrey has lost the caretaker.
Madison versus Sophia in a boxing fight.
Winner gets the baby, please, Brian.
Or both of us.
I didn't even see it.
Oh, she broke the African child.
Wow, abuse?
No.
Brian, why does everyone keep saying I should fight Sophia?
I don't even know who she is.
Oh, yeah, we're actually organizing a boxing match here.
This is free.
For me, I'm honored.
Oh, this is so funny.
Who is Sophia?
I'm so confused.
I'm pretty sure she was on when I was gone, but I don't know if she was.
Brian, where did you get these babies?
I'm going to read this super chat.
Why do you just have a baby target?
You're just like posting it.
Portugal has beautiful people, cool culture, and great nightlife for meeting people too.
Plus, Portugal is super cheap for Western Europe.
Okay.
Have you been to Portugal?
I don't get a helmet or anything.
I've got a cousin about it.
I don't get a hat or a helmet.
That's absolutely true.
It's kind of mistake.
I was going to go there in October.
In September, but we elected for Turkey.
Oh my gosh, who puts that on there?
You wasted Peter.
My boyfriend's Portugal.
Your boyfriend's Portuguese.
She loves Portrait.
Where did she get this very hard to do?
Is he Portuguese, Portuguese, or like American Portuguese?
Half Portuguese.
What the fuck?
I know.
What?
You guys are kidding babies.
I know, yes.
I'm so excited.
I'm waiting to at least graduate college.
I'm feeling really stylish or not.
I'm reading it right now.
Or we were just addressing it.
Portugal people are beautiful.
Cool culture.
Great night.
Oh, we got everyone set up with the props.
I'm trying to.
Madison, your lipsticks with Brian are always a little bit more.
Yes, that's what we were just looking at.
Don't worry, Maddie.
Sophia will more likely.
Yeah, that's what I was saying.
Like the props and everything.
No, I like the eye-burning.
Okay, I just want to say, I don't even know who Sophia is.
Intimidating.
Y'all got to give me a little more information.
It does.
When you first turned it on, I went a little blind for a second.
I'll go back and watch it.
It was so unnatural.
Because you didn't have it on the whole time we were here, sale.
I'm sorry about it, thank you to talk about.
I wear helmets all the time, but not this kind.
Okay.
Safety first, protection.
What kind of helmet has damaged my eyesight?
But could I maybe have like a different helmet?
Have you worn this?
It doesn't damage your eyesight.
Okay, but this being red and then the rest of it being blue, I'm like seeing other dimensions.
If she wears it for so long, she's literally going to only see red in one eye.
Get her a new prop.
Come on.
Come on, Brian.
You can't be harming yourself.
Yeah, I know.
That's why I'm not going to sing the microphone.
You do.
Do you want us to pass you on that?
Can I sit in a lap?
This baby is from the joint.
Here, we can just trade them down.
Yeah.
Brian.
That's good.
We can like pass them down.
Whatever you want.
Who's Erica?
Maybe we can like sneak.
Maybe I can sit there and sneak Madison.
Wait, what?
Maybe I can sit there.
Do you want to sit on my seat?
Or your seat?
One in the chat if you can hear me kind of being ridiculous back here.
Can you guys hear me or is it Scott?
One in the chat if you can hear me.
Let's see what they say.
I'm not Aquarius.
I'm Sagittarius.
Can you guys hear Brian?
I don't really believe in those.
One in the chat if you can hear Brian.
There's a three.
Thank you.
That's helpful.
One, two.
We've got some toes.
One kinda.
They can carry, but should we give Brian a mic?
Oh, it's your decision now.
That's theirs, not mine.
Okay, I guess we'll scoot them down.
I guess they can kind of hear you.
Okay.
It's okay.
It's all done.
Wait, what are we doing right now?
I'm just curious.
Right.
So, I was really looking for.
Where are you guys from again?
Where y'all live?
Pre-North.
I live in a small town in the Sacramento area in California.
San Jose?
What is the Sacramento area?
Oh, I'm sorry.
Shingle Springs.
Have you been living there your whole life?
I lived in another small town in California growing up until about 10 years ago.
And then I moved to Private Town.
Wait, how about we do this, Madison?
Yes.
I'll take this seat.
I'll sit in the back.
But you have a mic now.
Yeah, that's fine.
I'm cool with that.
And then we're going to wrap in like five minutes.
Perfect.
It's been all morning.
Madison has work, but we are trying to get it so that she's going to become a Twitch streamer.
So on the whatever.
My shoulders be wild.
I'm kind of scared.
Madison is going to start streaming on the whatever Twitch channel, and that's actually going to be her new full-time job.
Playing World of Warcraft.
Well, I think we're just going to have you do just chatting.
Start off, yeah.
I'm cool with that.
Yeah, just chatting.
You're going to have to drop out of college, though.
I'm kidding.
I've been never mixed.
I just woke up.
How the fuck is this still?
What's up?
Somebody in chat said, I just woke up, and how is this still alive?
We've been going.
We've been streaming for six hours.
Damn.
Yeah, I've put a helmet on now.
Has it been six hours?
Yeah, I think it's six hours.
Is this your longest podcast?
We've had some pretty freaking long ones.
Yeah, we just hit six hours just now.
Are you going to try and do like a 24-hour stream at some point?
Oh, Lord.
No.
Didn't that used to be like a thing on the ground?
People still do it.
People definitely have a lot of people.
I'm in a Walmart toilet paper for me.
I can't know.
I need my sleep.
I'm too old for that shit.
But yeah, you know.
Never say never.
Is that a.
You guys like rugby over here?
I forgot.
Yeah, I'm a rugby fan.
I like rugby.
Have you ever been to Australia?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You guys ever been to Australia?
Have not, but would love to go.
Always wanted to go.
The Wallabies.
Quade Koopa.
Wallabies.
Yes.
Do you know those?
Well, are you more like Rugby League or Rugby Union or Australian Rules?
I'm more into Australian Rules Football.
That's what it's called, right?
AFL.
Aussie Rules.
Have you guys ever heard of Australian Rules football?
Yes.
It's a pretty brutal game.
I played that for a few years.
But in terms of rugby, I'd go more rugby union.
How does Australian rules differ?
So Australian rules is basically like the rugby ball, but it's more of like an oval sort of shape.
It's more rounded and it's a harder ball.
And you drop it on your foot and you, like this, you kick it, and then you could kick it to somebody.
If they catch it, they get to stop.
And then the goal is to eventually kick it through the gulls.
It's a different sort of sport.
It's very rough.
Wait, can you move those out of frame?
I'm L C D.
I don't like.
Yeah, sorry.
I refuse to advertise your budget.
Listen, In-N-Out gets a pass, okay.
Does it?
Yeah, In-N-Out, if you're watching, sponsor the whatever possibility.
Such an epic sponsor.
It would be.
I need sponsors.
You can get sponsors.
Brian, what are these cameras inside?
Huh?
These little indoor cameras.
Big brother watching you at all times.
Did you set those up?
What do you mean?
Did you put them up?
What do you mean, security cameras?
There's like $70,000 of.
Did you go to the store and buy them and put them up yourself?
What the fuck?
What's with the specifics?
I sell smart home and security systems.
Oh, she's trying to sell you.
I'm just asking.
Hitch him.
You're not happy with myself.
I'm listening to my door report.
She gets commission.
Not on me.
No, because this is my break.
Because this is a break from all of that.
You can do it.
Hello?
What do you want?
So you're a hairdresser?
So I've been going to school to do hair, but I'm currently on a leave of absence.
You're on the leave.
So that I can go knock people's doors and sell smart homes.
Smell smart homes.
Are you trying to sell me right now?
Is that why you're?
I could, if you wanted me to.
You know what actually happened, though?
On my way here, well, like at the Denver airport, the shuttle bus driver straight up asked me, like, I like told him what I do for work, and then he gave me his information to get him a system.
So it's pretty simple.
I mean, I could hook you up.
Wait, Madison, they can't see you.
Let's tell everybody in the chat that if they need a security system, that I'm the girl with the deals.
People either love me or they hate me.
They love me because I get into a deal or they hate me because I knocked on their door.
Jake is so fine.
Take the helmet off.
Okay, thank you.
Much appreciated.
Oh, no, don't.
You don't know, keep it on.
Someone else is to speak to me.
So you don't think I'm fine.
No, you are fine.
Speak deeper.
I can hear my voice reverberating around my face.
Did we read this one, Madison versus Sophia in the boxing fight?
Winner gets the baby.
Please, Brian.
Yeah.
Sophia might be coming on Tuesday, so maybe you guys can.
Who is Sophia?
Yeah.
I guess is maybe simping for her.
I don't know.
Can you fight, Madison?
Was she cool?
Can you box?
Yeah.
My dad has taught me a few moves.
Is your dad on the Asian side?
Yes.
Okay, so he can fight.
Well, both my parents.
She hospitalized a guy.
Bit of Winchang.
Your dad hospitalized a guy?
Yeah.
Damn.
I don't really want.
Actually, I probably shouldn't even have to.
I told you I got chased by the way.
Is your dad in the mafia?
Maybe.
Okay, good times.
We had, while you were gone, Madison, we had a girl on who's Vietnamese, and a lot of people were suspecting that maybe she was affiliated with the snake.
The snake?
Which I guess is like some organized crime thing.
Be surprised those Vietnamese, man.
They like control the heroin.
You're crazy.
I'm not Vietnamese.
Oh, you're not?
No.
I thought you were Vietnamese.
No.
Huh?
You've been misleading me this entire time.
No, you never asked me.
I thought you were Vietnamese?
That's kind of messed up that you messed up.
You're like growing up.
Why is that messed up?
Wait, you are Vietnamese.
Come on, man.
She's from Thailand.
I'm Thai.
No, you're not.
Okay, I'm Vietnamese guys.
You were a Vietnamese.
I'm Vietnamese, guys.
No, I'm not.
I've never told you that ever.
No, I'm pretty sure you told me.
Brian, this is yet another reason to cancel you this evening.
Why?
Because I asked if she was...
Well, this is, I think, the second time you've racially profiled someone now.
Yeah, Brian.
My incorrect name.
I'm still deeply offended.
What?
about what oh did i that you missed raced me I misraced her.
Oh, you called her white.
Although you're not what?
You're half white.
Yeah, I'm half mixed European and then I'm half Indian Asian.
Like Asian Indian.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Like as in India, India?
Yeah.
Really?
Wait, what's your...
Can you share your last name?
Patel.
Oh, yeah, that's Indiana.
Trust me, there's millions of Priya Patels in the world.
One of them's the foreign affairs secretary or something in the United Kingdom.
Priya Patel.
Have you been pretty vital?
Yeah.
Cool.
Good times.
Wait, what were you saying?
Aubrey?
You're talking shit?
Yeah, she was just saying that you racially profiled him.
Just talking about canceled.
I'm not going to lie.
I used to love Michael Jackson when I was a kid.
I did a school project on his music when I was probably seven years old.
I definitely dressed up in it.
Because I do look like a bleed with the baby in my body.
I still love his music.
Yeah.
Rest in peace.
What we're going to do is we're going to have Madison fight, do a boxing match with Sophia, and then we're going to have Kiko either go up against Taytay or Nikki, the kind of girl with the spider tattoo on her neck.
I casually saw Kiko walking down the street today.
I was just like eating a burger.
And I did you have like a girl?
No, I had a second.
I literally did like a double take.
Like, I watched her walk by and then I was like, wait.
Were you on State Street?
I was just, I was at the habit.
I was in Rage Quick Kiko.
Rage Quick Kiko.
I was low-key hoping that she'd be on the bottom of the city.
I don't know where that is.
Honestly, I've just been walking around.
Yeah.
No, I see her.
I see her everywhere.
I was trying to get her to get away with that.
She works downtown.
Brian, I was really, I was actually kind of scared to come on here.
This is very tame compared to what I ever did.
Well, first of all, I think I talked to a couple of the girls.
We were all scared that we were going to be the only kind of conservative girls on here.
I would have had your back if you weren't going to be able to do that.
I know I thought about that too.
Yeah.
Well, we thought we were going to get gangsta.
I was pretty stacked, I think.
I mean, I thought it was a good conversation, but it was pretty tame.
Like, there wasn't a ton of people.
Chat thought it was boring.
I was fully ready to come argue with people.
If there was a bit of purple hair on the other side, it would have been a little bit more.
Well, there was the girl here in the middle who blasted tads.
I was expecting a little pushback from her.
I was like a tiny bit, but then I feel like there were so many people with the same viewpoint in regards to certain things that it kind of just like I noticed at one point or another, there was just like three people against her.
Not like against, but like with opposing arguments.
Yeah, yeah, it's tough.
Like, if it's not balanced, like if there's one girl who's like, would otherwise challenge us, if like she feels like she's going to get dog piled, then they're going to be like a little more reserved with like vocalizing their girlpower around them.
Yeah, so that.
Well, you hit them with the, what'd you say earlier?
I think you said slay queen or something stupid like that.
Slay queen.
Yeah.
You said yes, queen.
Yes, queen.
Not much better.
I'm going to get the soup chat.
We have Steel Surfer Priya.
Can you read this one for us?
Brian's flannel game is over 9,000.
Recommend buttercloth shirts for the style.
What's everyone's opinion on a man dating multiple women, but tells the girls that they have to be monogamous with him?
Doesn't that come across as hypocritical?
Come to Dallas.
Thank you.
Thank you, Steel Surfer, for the soup chat, man.
I'm not afraid of any.
Oh, yeah, I think that wait, Madison.
If Frankie, no.
Okay.
No.
Yeah, flat out.
In terms of that, I think it just depends on the people's preference.
You get stacks of girls out there who are fine with it.
If it's a guy who's going to be paying the bills and you get guys who are cool with that, too.
I mean, I wouldn't do it because it's one girl is enough.
For myself, I'm not as worried about, I'm not as worried about the physical things that I'm getting as far as if they're going to pay for this and that.
It's more so like what I want is that intimacy, that genuine connection with one person and for them to feel the same way.
Yeah.
Like I said, I wouldn't be down with it, but I think there are a lot of people who genuinely just, that's their lifestyle, you know.
And there are girls who are looking to get provided for and they're not looking for anything deeper.
And then there are guys who are just looking to have multiple chicks.
And there's been guys like that throughout history.
But it sounds like a headache to me.
What about during back in the Spartan days?
Yeah.
Like in Greece.
All my boys back in the spot and just thermopoly.
I don't know how they would deal with numerous women because I feel like one woman would be enough of like chaos and stuff.
You've got stamina like a spot.
Is that what you are in your relationships?
Chaos?
I mean, like, no, not necessarily chaos, but like I definitely have my moments where it's like, like, I'd get a little bit tired and then like hello, grumpy.
That's why you have to date Jack.
Wait, Nick, can you pull up?
Nick, can you pull up Aubrey's Instagram?
Did you tell me all your wish?
No, he was actually.
Yeah, it's in the description.
He was like the sweetest guy ever, too.
It was like the most unexpected thing.
It was a DUI.
It was a DUI.
He wasn't pushing.
And the assault was like, oh, because he was out of it.
Yuki needs a dating code.
That was because of drugs, which I was going to say.
Bring Zerka.
Are you going to bring Zirka on, Brian?
I mean, he was in LA this past week, and we were in contact, and he was going to maybe come on the show.
Do you have any negative towards Zerker, or you guys, have you guys squashed the beef?
There's no beef, but, and I don't know if he's going to end up seeing this.
I'm like, he says some wild shit on Twitter.
And I don't know if he's trolling or if he's serious, but he says some pretty wild shit on Twitter.
I think he's like a comedian, isn't he?
He says in his Twitter bio that he's a comedian.
So I don't know if I take it so.
I just grab the helmet if you're able to put it back up there.
Thanks, Mandy.
I don't know if I like five more minutes.
Take it fully seriously, but these days we have, like in the attention economy, you know, you have to sort of, there are people who like, you know, have to say outrageous shit.
No, you're right.
You're right.
Do you have Aubrey's, or actually before you do that, let me do, we have Sandeep Penta here.
Wait, put it back for a sec.
Yo, Son Deep, thank you for the super chat.
And I think he meant to write this.
Is this really happening live?
Like this?
Yeah, we're live right now.
It's 1.15 a.m. here in California.
It is live.
I've got to drive to LAX at 5 a.m.
Oh shit, you didn't get a hotel?
Yeah, I've got a hotel, but my flight's at 10.
Probably best to not sleep at that point.
Sleep on the fly.
I'm going to have to drive for three hours.
Where are you flying to?
Miami.
Oh, you're going to Miami.
Are you going on FNF or not?
No, no, I didn't know those guys.
What are you doing out in Miami then?
We're just going to work for a week, to be honest.
I've always wanted to check out Miami.
Very nice.
Yo, guys, should Rattlesnake be co-host?
Are you down?
Down.
To be the co-host of whatever.
I'm looking for a co-host because everyone shit talks me in the chat.
Who said AFL isn't a real sport?
Okay.
That's some bullshit.
Oh, that's one of our mods, Nemesis.
I'll tell you what.
He's in Australia.
Rattlesnake TV is going to be hitting the road in the next few months, and we're going to be buying a van, a minivan, or a truck, or a bus of some sort.
And we're going to be, I haven't actually told anyone this yet, putting some logos on the side, creating a little studio.
In America?
Probably in America.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's going to happen in the future.
Is this going to be your first time in Florida?
Yeah.
Okay, very nice.
It's only my second time in LA.
It's actually nice up here.
I wouldn't stay for very long in LA, but I do like it up here.
I have a feeling you'll like Florida.
I spend the winters in Florida and I absolutely adore it.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
Bougie.
Apparently you guys want to take whatever international, Brian.
Is this just conjecture?
Well, I mean, I have entertained like franchising whatever.
So basically giving someone the framework to start their own thing like this and we bring it to a market like in could be in South America, could be in Asia, it could be in Europe, it could be in Australia.
And basically, and then we give them the framework.
Here's how we do our setup.
We give them the technical knowledge.
We'll even, I mean, this is not anything I'm planning to do immediately, but we would fly out to their location, turn key, give them, basically set them up with a podcast studio because I did all this shit on my own.
So I figured out all the fucking technical issues.
I was doing YouTube for 10 years, but I just wanted to.
I used to watch the videos.
Yeah, I've been doing YouTube for 10 years, but like figuring out audio stuff, like because I, you know, video stuff I was decent with, but audio stuff, like that's a whole nother, in some ways that's more complex than video.
So I'm thinking, like, okay, franchise this shit, like Fight Club.
Every city, like, bunch of cities, you could have a show, you know, and it'd have to be – Santa Barbara's not an ideal location to do this because it should be in L.A., to be honest.
But this – There's a serious market for this, I reckon, if you had a show in London where you could get girls.
Do you know Pearl?
Yeah, she's in London, but she might be moving to the States.
That would be a good vibe, though, because London also has such an eclectic group of people as well.
Yeah, but then you get stabbed and shit.
So I don't know about that.
True, you do get straight.
No, I wouldn't be a franchise.
I could definitely do a franchise.
I think that'd be a good idea.
And not only do we set them up with, you know, here's how to run the podcast.
Here's all our knowledge that we've developed.
Here's what we send out.
Like, I have like, I could write a book on this whole podcast setup.
We also offer cross-promotion.
So we say, okay, franchise, boom.
We'll promote you every quarter.
You can come be on the show.
Something like that.
This is just like big picture stuff that I was thinking about.
In order for me to be interested in doing something like this, we're talking like, you know, like mid-six figures, you know, for me to actually want to spend my time helping someone set this up.
But anyways, let's move on from that.
Wait, so just curious, you're on a flight in three hours, four hours.
Or you have to leave.
I'm getting up at 4.30.
I have to leave at 5.
And then I'm going to be at LAX at around 8.
Flights at 10.
I've hired a car, so I've got to go and drop that off and then into the airport.
But mate, I'm fine.
I've done a lot less sleep.
Sometimes, like in Asia and stuff, we've had to do one hour's sleep and go film for the whole day.
So it's all good.
It's a good idea.
What about you?
I'm going to get bad sleep on the flight.
What about you guys?
What are your plans?
You guys kicking off in Santa Barbara?
I'm going to be on the bus at noon tomorrow, going back to LUX and then going home.
What about you, Priya?
I'm driving back to Santa Clarita tonight.
Oh, you're in Santa Clarita.
That's like Los Angeles-ish?
Like suburbs.
Yeah, yeah.
Gotcha.
What about you?
I'm heading to the airport after this.
Hell yeah.
Rock and roll.
Very cool.
Okay.
Oh, we have to react to Aubrey's Instagram.
Let's do it.
By the way, guys, super chats.
We'll do super.
Oh, I should have updated it in the description.
We're going to do super chats just 1999 and up before you do that.
Enjoy Florida, my state.
Go to Space Club and Versailles restaurant.
That's from Mr. Meatball.
Thank you, man.
How come my Instagram is the one of choice here?
I don't know.
Somehow it came up, I think.
I don't know.
Jason Wittala, Brian's got to find a mini me and do the Austin Powers accent for a whole show.
You know what's crazy, guys, is I have a friend who's a dwarf, and I've invited him on, but he's very flaky.
And here's the problem, though.
He's Mexican.
Oh, holy shit, that sounds so bad.
Like, I don't mean it's bad.
Hold on, I didn't mean it like that.
Bro, I'm going to barricade the show.
Bro, that's the most Mexican place I've ever seen.
That's not what I fucking mean.
I mean, I'm white.
Mini me has to be like the same fucking skin.
Oh my God.
Jesus Christ.
You're digging yourself a bigger hole here.
Some dickhead is going to clip that shit, be like, yo, Brian's a fucking shit.
But everyone's going to be like, that's not what I'm saying.
Everyone's going to be like BW for the impression.
Somebody's going to clip a bunch of people.
Bro, I didn't mean it like that, son.
I did not mean that shit.
Well, I'm trying to say, bro, what?
Listen.
And you're in Libtown.
You're a saving camp.
Got it, guys.
Chat, chat, chat.
Don't cancel me.
This is why I met Austin Powers.
If you're not familiar with the movie, Mini Me looks just like Dr. Evil.
Okay?
He looks just like him.
So, my friend.
Groovy, baby.
Paul.
Okay, his name's Paul.
Okay?
He happens to have a much darker complexion than me.
He can't be my mini-me.
Okay?
Unless I get a 10.
Okay?
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Is it good?
This is Aubrey's Instagram.
Are you still talking like this?
I guess so.
Okay, we're going to scroll down.
Oh, put it on GH the top sources.
I'm going to put a little Instagram thing.
I'm just starting to profile.
Click the eyeball.
It's kind of symbolic, but I'll also just clean it up a little bit.
Oh, that's my brother's head.
Because I do hair.
Scroll down.
Let's go to the very bottom.
Let's see the embarrassing photos.
That's right.
Go for it.
She's pretty.
I used to be blonde.
Ooh, there we go.
You know what?
Let's do the one with the hat.
Click on that.
Oh, shit.
We're kind of blocking it.
Can you?
Do you still go to Brigham University?
No, that was just.
Oh, yeah, you can do that.
Oh, yeah.
That's wearing that stuff anymore.
Scoot the other one over there and you scoot it over.
No, no, no.
I scooted one of my parents' sweatshirts, I think.
I think that was my mom.
My mom went to that university.
So I think that was her shit.
Here, I want you to do Control-Z.
No, no, no.
Now you're fucking shit up, major.
Control-Z.
Control-Z again.
Control-Z again.
Okay, good.
Oh, my God.
You know, the honeycombs are going to be a little bit more difficult.
Oh, my God, we're sick.
I'm going to clean up my account a little bit.
so it's like adding the little space blockers in there because my Instagram's not very aesthetic, you guys.
I'm just, I'm so, some dipshit's gonna fucking clip that.
Fuck.
Brian, you know how you can solve the problem of finding yourself a mini-me?
Just have a kid.
Have a child.
Just a perfect mini-me.
Are you getting a child?
I'm ready.
Slow down there.
You'll pay for the daddy.
I've been noticing your nurturing abilities with that baby, and I'm impressed.
Yeah, I'm like Aubrey deforming her baby.
This baby looks seriously uncomfortable.
Look at his facial expressions.
Here's the thing is, I was trying to hold it in a better way, but you were doing some very inappropriate thing.
Okay, I gotta say, don't say whoa, whoa.
You're doing some inappropriate thing.
All I'll say is that his legs were backwards at one point in time.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, I don't know.
He's just an acrobat.
I launched the little African baby.
I just want my kids to do what they want to do.
And if he wants to, you know, do it.
Is this audible if I just drop it?
Hold on.
Oh, fuck my blue.
And I'm the one who's fucking.
Your neighbors are like, stop.
Dropping the African baby again.
Well, he said, that's why he said he had Brian.
That was probably Strike 4.
What do you mean, Strike 4?
Do you know what color that doll is?
Bro, you're the one making it weird now?
What the fuck?
Brian, why did you have the babies again?
Here, I'll drop the white one too.
Equality.
Yeah, fuck that white baby up.
Yeah.
Dropkick that shit.
That one's America somehow.
I don't know.
Okay, let me read this.
We have Super RC, Brian Greypaw, down to Cohos.
Priya looks hella cute, especially with Hadlon.
What sport do you play?
I played Pro Sport 2.
I'm an equestrian.
I ride horses.
Okay.
Good times.
Good times.
Great classic game.
Thank you.
Great times.
Wait, what were we talking about before that?
The Doctor Evil.
Is it a good accent?
Is it a good accent?
W for the impression, I'd say.
Is it okay?
Like, is it decent?
It was pretty decent.
It was alright.
I think Austin Powell.
We're going to get copyrighted because everyone's going to think it's Austin Powell as the actual movie.
I don't know.
I think that you're stitching the audio in.
Someone just did a rating, except Grace isn't here.
So I don't know who he's referring to.
What happened?
Blair says it's 100 out of 10.
Pretty good.
Okay.
Please keep going with the Doctor Evil.
Brian dropkicked the baby.
Mixture of Trump and Doctor Evil.
It's a great accent.
Resembles the secret of Trump.
Oh, it's Trump?
Okay.
It was more like a Trump.
China.
China.
Listen, we have the great way I'm trying to think.
What does he say?
He has the best words.
oh wow he does like uh he does Like a noose.
He's very audible with his hands.
Oh, he does that, doesn't he?
When he's making a joke, he goes.
He does.
It's the lion ted.
Lioned.
Someone give me a prompt.
Fabio.
What's his main thing that he'll say with the great?
Trying to make America great again?
No, no, no, not that.
Huge.
Huge, millions and billions and billions.
I don't know if I can do Trump.
I don't know if I can do Trump.
Anybody here can do Trump?
Anybody?
Anybody here can do an accent?
You can do a French accent.
Go ahead, let's hear it.
What do you want me to say?
Say I would just go.
I am not very impressed by these Americans and their only fans.
I'm not impressed by your performance.
Nice.
I like to do the, um, hey, what's going on in here?
Do I look like a fucking asshole to you?
That's pretty good.
1960s, New York.
Like Italian.
I used to be able to do a Dora voice, but have you seen the sopranos?
Maybe we could do like a jersey sopranos type thing.
I'm trying to think how I can get into the sopranos.
Listen.
A gaba go.
Don't ever fuck me, okay?
Don't ever fuck me.
Okay.
I'm cool with that.
How about a borat impression?
Can either of you do that?
Very nice.
Very nice.
I like you.
I like a sex.
This is my sister.
She's number three prostitute in all of Kazakhstan.
Just pulling all these impressions for it.
Give me your tears, Gypsy.
That's a good idea.
Don't drink, me, Gypsy.
Do not drink, me, Gypsy.
Throw the Jew down the wall.
Top tier, my friend.
Very nice.
Very nice.
Hi bye.
Hi bye.
I like.
I like.
I want you to do it.
Yo, Nick, can you pull up the song?
The Borat dance song.
We'll play like.
Throw the Jew down the wall.
Bro, what the fuck?
Oh, okay, yeah.
That's all right.
I'll get clipped, not you.
It's fine.
On YouTube?
Yeah, it's the Borat dancing song.
People are already saying you're clipped, Brian.
Aussie guy can do, you do a London accent.
F11, F11.
I don't...
It's probably going to get copyright.
Let's not do it because I want to avoid copyright.
Anyone else, any impressions?
Trying to think of it.
You name it.
You can't jinx a movie.
No?
Maybe.
Not if I'm losing.
Maybe next time.
Look next time if I have a chance to catch the jeans.
Someone said Indian accents are their favorite for some reason.
Indian accent.
You know what's interesting is there's some accents are okay to do, and other accents are not okay to do.
Is Borats okay to do?
Is it an Indian accent okay to do?
No.
No, why not?
You cannot do it now.
All I know are the Indians.
Those are the only ones.
I give you the pass, Brian.
But they're not talking though.
You want Omegle?
They're not talking the Indians at Omegle.
They're doing other things.
Like, you can't.
Oh, my God.
Disavow.
I disavow.
But, yeah, I mean, yeah, you can't, like, it would, you could not do.
As a white person, you could definitely, I don't think you're allowed to do an Indian accent, like an Asian accent, or like a black accent.
So why is that, though?
Is the world just too sensitive now?
Nobody can tell you that.
I'm not sure why that is.
I don't know.
Can you do an Indian accent?
There you go.
That was really good.
Canceled.
That was pretty.
But if he's able to know the accent, I don't know if you can cancel him for that.
Comedians can do it.
They're all.
Everyone wants you to do an Indian accent.
Wait, did we read this one?
Who needs a dog?
Aubrey, can you read this?
Awesome after show.
Great panel tonight.
Great to see some beautiful-based women still exist.
Priya, are you willing to move out to East Coast for the right guy?
I.
Yeah, I mean, Florida is it.
And then we have Claudia.
Try a South African accent.
Ah, fuck.
I feel like I can kind of do it.
We could do it.
This is Africa.
No, South African.
That is Afric Connor.
I was doing Leonardo DiCaprio.
Blood Donald.
Oh, oh, wait, let me hear more.
What did you say?
T-I-A.
This is Africa.
We need to get some petroleum.
Look at me.
No, I'm kidding.
No, that's not South African account.
I feel like they came together.
Fuck, how do they?
It's like, I'm actually, I've got a third African heritage.
They talk a bit like a little.
Fuck, I don't know.
Is this right here?
This is kind of like.
No, Don't be going.
Don't be going.
That's no Australian.
The Australian.
Yeah.
The thing is, even the Australian.
You call that a knife.
This is a knife.
Yeah, okay.
That's all right.
It wasn't too bad.
It wasn't too bad.
You don't want to do New Zealand, though, because that's when things get very dark when you go to that side of the pond.
Yeah, they all love sheeps a bit too much, unfortunately.
My Kiwi brethren, to the east.
I don't know how to do it.
I don't know.
Sith African?
It's a bit like Sith Ifrican.
It's a bit up here.
Ah, wait.
I don't know.
Okay, never mind.
Okay.
All right, let's call it there.
Let's wrap up there, guys.
Thank you for tuning in to the after show.
This is probably our longest stream ever.
I can't stop doing this shit.
I need to wrap the shows at like three hours, but yeah.
Anyways, thank you for everyone who stuck around for the after show.
Appreciate it.
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I know you have some work tomorrow.
Thank you guys for tuning in tonight.
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Yep.
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Hit.
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