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May 3, 2023 - Whatever Podcast
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Dating Talk #71

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So please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
Go ahead.
Hello.
My name is Jisel.
I am 22 and I stream on Twitch.
What's your, what do you stream on Twitch?
Video games?
Just chatting?
What I like to do is kind of more therapy.
So if anyone is having any problems at home or in any type of relationships, they can come and talk to me.
And you said you're 22, right?
Yes.
So you're a therapist?
I'm not a certified therapist.
Okay.
But what I do is basically like therapy.
You give relationship advice?
Okay.
Got it.
Okay, very cool.
What about you?
My name is Rihanna.
I am 21 and I'm just a waitress.
Just a waitress?
No content creation?
No.
Just a waitress?
Yeah.
Okay, got it.
What about you?
Hi, I'm Destiny.
I'm an artist, so I do music, and I'm also on TikTok.
I'm basically on all platforms, and I'm a Lashtech, and I do OnlyFans.
Okay, wow.
You wear many hats.
Got to.
Age?
Oh, 21.
21.
Okay, where are you from, by the way?
I was raised in Oklahoma and I stay in San Diego.
Okay, I detect a bit of an accent, so.
What is it?
Are you from like the Sticks?
Yeah, Oklahoma.
Basically, there we go.
What about you?
Hi, my name is Jen.
I'm from Long Beach, California.
The LBC?
Yeah, but I stay in Ohio.
Are you affiliated?
Huh?
No, but I got a lot of people that are.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
How old are you?
I'm 19.
And then your occupation?
I'm a travel nurse, and I do OnlyFans.
Wait, do you?
And I'm a dancer.
Wait, hold on.
Travel nurse?
Yeah.
You're an RN?
No.
I'm working.
Closer to the mic?
Yeah, I'm working towards my OPN, but I'm a travel phlebotomist.
That's a little different than the travel nurse.
Well, categorize it kind of the same.
Well, phlebotomist, I mean, that's the entry level to become a phlebotomist is substantially lower than a nurse.
Right.
So could you look at my veins later and tell me if I've got like fans?
Yeah.
Have you ever thought of combining the two?
Phlebotomy.
Yeah, I never thought of it.
I don't really know how I can kind of put those together.
Maybe there's a figure out later.
Okay.
How long have you been doing OnlyFans?
Probably about four months now.
Four months.
Okay.
Got it.
Cool.
What about you?
Hi, I'm Kelly.
I'm 21.
I'm a student, and I'm a branded stylist through Nordstrom, and I also do content creation and social media for them.
For Nordstrom?
Oh, cool.
Okay.
Hi, my name is Apolinaria.
I am 25 years old.
I am studying in Santa Monica College for my prerequisites for a master's and also working at a startup.
Okay.
Hi, my name is Ksenia.
I'm from Russia, but I've been traveling a lot and I also moved to different countries.
I've been living in Austria and now I'm here.
I just finished UCLA in application programming, so I'm in tech and in the future I want to start my startup as well.
Age?
I'm 25.
25.
Okay.
How many languages do you two speak?
I speak three.
Oh, by the way, we've been knowing each other for 17 years.
So, yeah, we're both from the same city in Russia.
How part of you?
Smolensk?
No.
Is that Russia?
Or is that Poland?
It's very random that you know Solensky.
It's Russia, but not Solens.
You're not from Smolensk.
There's this famous painting by Polish paint.
Anyways, what about you?
My name is Lauren.
I do content creation and I am 29.
29.
What kind of content creation do you do?
I'm on YouTube.
My YouTube channel is called Lauren de Laguna, and I just graduated law school, and I just passed the bar.
So I do.
Thanks.
So I do some legal stuff.
And we also do morning news.
We do interviews, but our crown jewel of Lauren de Laguna is our Judge Judy type show where I'm the judge and it's called Lauren Order.
So, yeah.
So you're like hearing like, are you arbitrating small claims type stuff?
Well, you know, if we do have people who are actually in real life court, we put their issues, their real life issues over our content creation.
So we try to wait for real life issues to wrap up.
For instance, we had this award-winning journalist, Aiden Carney, aka Turtle Boy, and he was accused of harassing a person.
And they had a whole hit, some other person, other content creator accused him of harassing someone.
And they had the whole debate on my show, but they did it after the legal decision was already decided in real court.
And he won in real court.
Okay.
And are you currently actually practicing law?
So you have to wait for something called character and fitness.
And I just passed the bar in Florida.
So I'm just waiting for all of that.
And hopefully, all of that finishes soon, and then I could get sworn in.
And then I will be working.
Yeah, I'm very excited for that.
What kind of law are you going to be practicing?
Previously, so right after law school, I went into public defense work and I really enjoyed that.
And I'm currently speaking with a public defense office in Florida.
And I really, I've spoken to a lot of the employees there and they're just so wonderful.
And so I hope to work in that office as soon as I'm certified.
Okay, very cool.
Very cool.
Hello.
My name is John, and I am 44 years old.
And I am the creator of the It's Complicated channel on YouTube, also known as the Rules of Modern Dating and Understanding Women.
I frequent the Las Vegas Strip and I just interview random people and ask them questions about dating.
It's a really good channel, guys.
Go check it out.
And let's see.
How long have you been doing the channel, by the way?
I think it's about over three years now.
What was your occupation before that?
I would sell collectibles on eBay.
I worked at a music venue.
And yeah, that's pretty much.
Okay, got it.
Got it.
Okay, cool.
So we're going to go around the table once more.
Current relationship status.
So are you single?
You got friends with benefits?
Talking stage, situationship, relationship, engaged, married.
And also, what is your longest relationship?
Go ahead.
I'm single, and my longest relationship was a little over a year.
Okay.
How long ago was that relationship?
Over a year ago.
Over a year ago now.
Yeah.
Okay.
So that was your most recent relationship too?
Or you've had something in between?
No, no, no, no.
Okay, so my longest one was like three years ago, and then my most recent one was a year ago.
Okay, got it.
Yeah.
What about you?
I'm single.
The longest relationship I have, I think it was a little over a year other than that.
Um, complicated, and my longest relationship was like six years.
Damn.
Complicated.
Okay.
What do you mean by it's complicated?
Go switch back.
I mean, it's like it's kind of just stuff happening like now.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't know what you're saying.
Like, it was cool.
Tell me until like the past couple days.
So it's like, it's recent, so it's kind of like complicated.
How long have you been seeing the it's complicated guy?
Not like five months.
Five months.
But recently, as of a couple days ago, there's been some conflict.
Did you cheat on him?
No, what?
Would you consider him your boyfriend?
Oh, yeah.
No, we was living together.
Like we live together and everything.
Okay.
So you're in a relationship?
Yeah, we're just like.
Are you guys on a break?
Yeah.
No.
No.
We're literally in the process of basically like splitting up our apartments and everything.
So you guys are the breakups.
toxic because we're like staying together right now so it's like you know what i'm saying So the breakup is imminent?
It's yes.
Okay.
But you're living together.
Has either of you brought someone else to the pad?
No.
What would you do if he did?
He definitely wouldn't.
He wouldn't do that?
I wouldn't.
What would you do?
Tell us what would you say.
I mean, you said I can't kiss.
I would beat a bitch up.
You'd beat the bitch up?
Yeah.
A bitch up.
But then I would have to beat him up, too.
You'd beat him?
Why do you beat up first?
It just depends on the situation.
Okay.
It's like.
That could happen a lot of different ways.
It could go down a couple different ways.
Okay.
It's a patio.
There's a patio.
I could like, you know, toss him over.
Toss him over the patio.
Okay, cool.
Domestic violence, good times.
So why is it?
Has it been on the rocks for a while?
No, it's like, it's really recent.
That's why I say it's complicated.
Like, it's just kind of.
Infidelity involved or no?
But you guys are going to break up.
It's kind of like in between.
That's like the best.
Do you want to break up with him?
I don't, but it's kind of like we're two different people.
I see like two different paths.
And it's kind of, you know?
Okay, interesting.
That's why I say it's complicated because I don't know.
How old is he?
He just turned 21.
Huh.
Okay, complicated in the process of who was there, has there been like a definitive breakup conversation?
Or are you guys just fighting right now?
It's really just like right now, like it's um, I don't know how to explain it.
Like, what do you mean?
Well, I mean, has there been a topic of...
Has there been a conversation where, like, we're done?
Or are you guys just in conflict right now?
It's in conflict, but we're like back and forth because it's like we live together, so we try to work it out.
And it's like, no.
Is he watching the show right now?
He might be.
What's up?
What's up, babe?
What's his name?
Jalen.
Jalen.
Yeah.
Jalen, is there a chance of reconciliation here?
You know, just, um, I don't know.
No?
No.
She did threaten to domestically attack you in the event.
Yes.
In the event of infidelity.
So be careful, Jalen.
She'll fuck both of you up.
Okay.
Exactly.
What about you?
What was that again?
I'm sorry.
Yeah, relationship status, the longest relationship.
So I'm currently single.
My longest relationship was two and a half years.
Okay, currently single two and a half years.
When was that?
It was over a year ago.
Okay, got it.
What about you?
I'm in a relationship, and this is probably my longest one.
It's like a year and four months now.
Okay.
Got it.
Yeah, I'm also in a relationship.
And this is my current longest one.
For two and a half years with beneficial.
All right.
I'm single, and my long goes through around two and a half years.
And it was around a year and a half ago before I moved to Los Angeles.
Okay.
I'm single and I. Just me.
Oh, yeah, just go ahead.
All right.
And I don't think I've ever really had any very long-term relationships.
Yeah, okay, that one, that's fair.
Is that at eight?
What's the audio at, Eric?
Oh, that's weird.
Okay.
You don't think you've had many long-term relationships?
Yeah, I've had like situationships that were long-term, on and off again, but nothing that I would consider legitimate partner.
What's the longest period of time that you've seen somebody?
Like two and a half years.
You've had a two and a half year situationship?
It was very on and off again.
I wouldn't consider that legitimate.
Was it long distance?
It was long distance.
How long distance?
He was in New York and I was in California.
Oh, damn.
Why?
Okay, but so a bunch of situationships.
You had the 2.5.
Were you dating other people during this on and off again, 2.5 year situationship?
Not seriously.
I'd go on dates with people, but like get dinner, see if it worked.
But I wouldn't have like a boyfriend during this time.
Because you were still caught up on the 2.5-year man?
No, just it never happened.
Oh, you just didn't meet a guy that you liked enough, I guess?
Yeah.
And were you living in Florida during California?
Oh, you were in California, okay?
He was in New York.
I was in California.
How did you end up in Florida?
For him?
I'm moving to Florida because I just passed the Florida bar.
Yay!
Right.
Yeah, yeah, but you're not currently living in Florida, but you passed the bar in Florida?
Oh, yeah, because I'm waiting for character and fitness, so I figured it'd be easier to move in with family, save that money, save that Skrilla.
I'm content creating.
Yo, I'm not a lawyer yet, so I'm not making no money.
Okay.
I have a YouTube channel, not an OnlyFans.
Sure.
So you've never, but you've never had someone that you would consider a boyfriend?
No.
Have you ever been in love?
Probably no.
No.
There's time.
Yeah, maybe.
Did you just think of someone's name?
There's a person that I really liked, but we dated for such a short period of time, it would be ridiculous to call that love.
So I don't really know who I have some idea of some person, but I'm sure that person is not the man he really is.
Wait, how long of a period of time was that?
Less than a month.
I just really, really connected with him very strongly.
And then I definitely wouldn't call that.
But that name came to mind.
You call it lost.
Maybe.
Probably.
Closer to the mic, by the way.
So that was that your, you would say your strongest connection you've ever had?
Yeah.
In a month?
Okay.
Did you have stronger feelings for Month Man than 2.5 Year Man?
Oh, absolutely.
After Month Man and I broke up, I called 2.5 Year Man and was like, can I just make it work?
Can we just try to make this work?
And we tried, and then it, because he was just kind of like a, he was always there.
Month man or 2.5 months.
I like that we've assigned nicknames to them based on the length of these situations.
Okay.
Huh.
All right.
Yeah, 2.5 year man might be watching.
He's still friends with me.
Why do you think you've not had a boyfriend?
I'm picky.
And then also when I meet a guy that I like, I could be a little bit expectations.
I have high expectations of people.
Yeah, what are your high expectations?
Why are you picky?
Like, okay, if you say you're going to do something, I really expect you to do it.
And that's for anyone, females or males.
And it's just, I find when, especially with dating, like you tell me you're going to be at a restaurant at this time, do it.
why do men struggle with that so much?
Is that really a man struggle though?
It's not just a man's struggle.
It's a woman's struggle, too.
It's a societal struggle that I think that all of society is.
My girlfriend the other day, Faith, I love you.
I'm going to call you out, girl.
She showed up like two days and like she kept postponing our lunch date.
And then when we finally had the lunch date, she was an hour late, that girl, Faith.
So then, if that's your friend that's doing that, how come you don't have the same expectations for your friend?
I do.
Oh, I asked her.
What would you dump you too?
I told her, like, if you keep doing this, I find, I'll show you our text editors.
I was like, I find this really disrespectful.
We had a conversation about it, yada, yada.
But if you try to have that conversation with your, like, a guy that you just start dating, excuse me, sir, sit down.
I'm finding the way that you treat me very disrespectful.
Yada da.
You're not going to be in a relationship much long.
I don't know.
I'm not someone's mom.
Okay, so being late is a major problem for you.
Yeah.
I agree with you justifiably so.
You said you were picky, and then you also said you had high expectations.
So besides punctuality, what okay, I want you to be closer to the mic.
I don't, I suppose I don't care if you're highly educated as long as you are pursuing like something worthwhile.
So for instance, if you are starting a business, like plumbers do a great job, like anyone going to trade school, welding, stuff like that, that's awesome.
Or high ambitions with education.
I need to see that ambition.
And I'm seeing just such a lack of in just society in general.
It sounds like you want somebody who follows through.
Accountability is follow through.
Yeah.
That's big.
Anything else?
No.
Oh my God, these are all people that love and hate me.
All my haters and my fans are in chat.
Hi, y'all.
That clo, why are you hating me right now?
You see a fan.
You have haters?
Oh, I have a lot of haters.
It's fine.
Okay.
That's why you're a lawyer.
You're soon to be.
CNF.
What about you?
Relationship status, longest we're a relationship?
I am currently single.
My longest relationship was just over three years.
It's probably been about six years since that relationship ended.
I still am friendly and fond with that person, but it just irreconcilable differences, I guess we would call it.
I don't know.
Were you married?
No, no, no.
I don't know what that means, honestly.
I just, we're just, you know, but, you know, no hard feelings, basically.
Do you want to get married?
While I do believe that families are very important, I believe that marriage is kind of the worst contract a man can sign.
I think that it's just extremely dangerous to do that.
And I think that there's really no, there's really nothing that a married couple can do that an unmarried couple can't do.
So I think, honestly, relationships are almost, in my opinion, stronger when either one can leave at any time.
And the only reason you stay together is because you want to be and not because you're obligated to.
Word?
Question.
So you do this, your YouTube show.
How often do you post videos, like once a week?
About it takes a while sometimes, but I try to get them out at the most, or sorry, at the latest every two weeks.
But if I could get them out, you know, multiple times a week, I would.
Question for you.
Have you ever dated any of the women or girls you've interviewed?
Or not keeping?
Not strictly business.
Not dated, but there was a time where I kind of just hung out and spent some quality time with somebody.
Sure.
But not like, you know, I mean, a lot of people are tourists, so they're kind of like in and out of town.
So.
Okay.
Cool, cool, cool.
All right.
So I do want to go around a bit here again because we had a lot of people here who are single.
So what does being single actually mean?
You know?
So, because I have a sense of what being single means, but so are you currently talking to somebody?
No.
Nobody.
There's no one in the picture.
Not like friends with benefits.
Nothing.
No.
Zilch.
Zero.
Zero.
Nothing.
No.
Nada.
Nothing.
Okay.
All right.
You sure?
Yes.
You sure?
Positive.
Okay.
All right.
There's somebody, come on, there's someone in the picture, right?
No.
Somebody.
I used to, well, I had a little bit of a bump in the road with somebody, but like.
What do you mean, a bump in the road?
I mean, like, I was seeing this person for a couple of months, but like, I tend to do things that like I shouldn't be doing, you know?
So like.
What do you mean?
Just like, um, like, homeboy would be like, oh, we're together, you know, or and then be like, acting like I'm crazy if I find something out, you know, like of him going and doing something with somebody else.
And I caught him doing it one night and I like chased him in the car down the road and stuff.
I didn't like run him over or anything like that.
Like I would just like want him to see like I see, you know.
You shut up.
So you were trying to run him over, but not really?
No, like he was driving his car and I was driving another car like side by side.
Like, you know?
Let's reenact.
So what's your name again?
Giselle.
Giselle.
Giselle's your boyfriend.
I want you guys to like put your hands on the steering wheel.
Let's reenact what you were doing.
I was just like, oh my gosh, I'm like so crazy.
Wait, by the way, was your, is he your boyfriend?
Well, I don't know what to call him.
No.
What was his name?
That's like a little, oh.
Just make up a name if you want.
We'll call him like Jose.
Okay, Jose over here.
This is your situationship or whatever.
Yeah.
He's being a fuckboy.
He's driving his S-Class Mercedes.
Well, he had a girl in the middle of the moment.
What kind of car did he see?
Was it a Hummer?
No, it was a Dodge Challenger.
Of course.
Dodge Charger.
Yeah.
It's old.
Dodge Charger.
One of those humming chargers.
What color?
What color?
It was black.
Okay.
Yeah.
But he was like, it was like, he told me he had went to bed and I was, it's so crazy.
He lives down the same road as my sister, right?
So he had told me he like went to bed like an hour before.
And I just so happened to like be going to my sister's.
And as I was driving past like this plaza area where like In N Out and stuff was, this lady was like stuck in the side of the road.
So we turned around.
Jose.
Hands on the wheel.
Yeah.
So while I turned around and went and parked in the plaza because we're gonna push this car out of the road, as soon as I'm like backing up, I see him.
I lock eyes with him, and he just like kept driving because there's like a stoplight, so he has to wait.
So I'm like getting out of the car.
I'm like running up there like crazy because I'm like ready for bed and everything.
Let me just interrupt you.
Jose, does he, is he both hands on the wheel or is he like a one?
Well, he's usually a one, one hand.
Well, he's like, he's a pretty good dude.
So he's like always like this.
He thinks he's like, Jose, please adjust.
Please adjust.
Okay, something like that.
Exactly like that, actually.
That's the angle I saw him at, you know?
And I saw that.
Other hands.
Let's see.
Other hands?
Yeah, there we go.
Okay.
Yeah, something like that.
Just look more like a fuckboy, okay?
Yeah.
There we go.
That's better.
It feels just like it.
But yeah, it was just like, you know, after you see something like that, I'm like, oh, crap.
Like, get in the car.
I was telling my sister, like, get back in the car.
And she's like, no.
So we pushed it out.
And then I like whipped around and drove all the way to his apartments.
And he pulled out at the same time.
So we're just like, she's here and I'm here.
And he tries to like duke me out at like a stoplight or whatever.
Like he thought he was going to turn quick.
Well, he ended up turning and I was on the other side of him because like, you know.
But then I know.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
Any of this resulted in criminal prosecution?
Yeah, okay.
And what?
Any court processes?
No, no way.
He didn't call me.
No, this is just like normal.
We knew he was wrong.
He's like gaslighting me.
So you were chasing him?
Yeah.
This is like some fast and furious shit.
Yeah, that's what I felt like.
I felt like I was in a movie.
Like everything was slow, but everything was so quick.
I had to like snap back and be like, oh, crap, I can't be doing this.
Like, I'm crazy.
Like, no, not like I'm crazy, but like, it was pretty stupid to do that over like a man, you know what I mean?
But he's not your boyfriend?
Was he trifling?
He was trifling for two years.
He's trifling.
Yes.
Can't believe he was trifling.
I know.
Can't believe it.
Wait, so was there a woman in the car with him?
Yes, there was.
There was a blonde girl.
See, at this time, I have brown hair.
Oh.
So that's what popped out to me because if he was.
Because it wasn't you in the car.
No.
Because if you had brown hair.
Yeah.
And you also weren't in the car with him.
Yeah.
So I knew it wasn't me.
Yeah.
Okay.
For sure.
Wait, so blonde chick.
Yeah.
I don't even know who she is to this day.
Is that why your hair is blonde now?
Oh, no.
I always dye my hair.
You can see like all over my page.
It goes from, I dye from like brown to blonde all the time.
Okay.
Depending on my mood.
Like it's summer, it's going to be blonde.
In winter, it's going to be brown, you know?
What were your thoughts on the woman that was in the car with him?
Who is this bitch?
Who's this bitch?
Describe her.
Well, I can't get it.
Did she have a face tattoo?
I couldn't even see that quick.
Face tattoo.
No.
Teardrop?
I don't know.
I couldn't even see her.
Was she cute?
You couldn't see her.
I could see her head bobbing and stuff.
Yeah, he has a tinted car.
What do you mean Bobby?
like when you're driving a car and it's like Sorry.
Was he listening to me?
Did he see you?
Yeah, he definitely saw me because I was walking up to his car.
Question: So you were in your car and he was in his car when you first saw him, correct?
Were you guys like crossing paths like this?
No, like, like, I had just backed into a spot.
So, yeah, he was coming like this, and I had just parked.
And he got out of the car because I wanted to make sure that it was him.
Yeah.
I saw, like, running up to the car.
He's like, rolling up his window.
I'm like, calling him.
One request.
Can you pop your.
It's just clanging on the table.
It's all good.
So continue.
You saw him with trifling.
Yeah, this blonde woman.
This is a blonde woman.
I did call her a bitch.
That's rude because I don't know.
But yeah, I saw that.
So it's just like, you know, when you see someone really buggy and you just like have that quick.
If it was like a cousin or a sister or a mom.
Oh, it definitely was not.
He has no family here.
Or a friend or a co-worker or a hand.
Or a prostitute.
You don't know.
Yeah, you know.
No, but it was a prostitute?
It might have been a profit.
Could have been.
No.
That's.
I know.
You feel like he was a prostitute.
You seem.
Oh, my God.
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No, not really.
I don't really care.
You just gave me money.
Do you want to?
You can roast him back if you want.
No, that's cool.
His name is Beaton Cheeks.
I know.
First name, last name.
That's actually his legal name.
Oh, he proved it.
He showed me a birth certificate and his Kazakhstani passport.
Whatever.
Because he's from Kazakhstan.
Oh.
He actually is.
Okay.
They have weird naming.
Right?
You guys are from that region.
Well, we are from Russia, which is a completely different country.
Cheeks is a common Russian, like Slavic last name, isn't it?
Not really.
Well, maybe a little bit.
Somewhere, yeah.
But not in Russia.
In Russian Kazakhstan?
Cheeks?
Wait.
How would you say?
Okay.
What was our question about surrounding or about books?
I'm not sure.
Go ahead.
I don't remember.
You're telling, you're driving.
Yeah.
You see trifling.
Boyfriend.
Prostitute.
Situation shit.
Prostitute.
Drug dealing.
Okay.
Was there drugs involved?
No, definitely not.
No drugs?
No, I didn't.
No, but like he's got a black Dodge charger.
Yeah, but he's an awful lot of people.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's more of a military card to be honest.
They buy the Mustangs and the chargers.
Okay.
Good times.
So single?
Yeah, most definitely.
Have you had a rebound since Dude?
I mean, yeah, but there's nothing.
A couple of rebounds, just one rebound.
Because if my boyfriend was trifling like that, I might be tempted to trifle myself.
Yeah, but I didn't have a rebound like right away because I was more like, I guess, like, man, I had to take a step back from, you know, like everything going on.
But I ended up having one when I went out to North Carolina, but that's it.
Okay.
Got it.
Oh, you're a complicated situation.
You're single.
Yeah.
Yes.
But come on, there's a guy in the picture.
Come on.
Yeah, there's one.
What's going on?
How long have you been seeing them?
Well, there's a couple in the picture.
A couple in the picture.
Yeah.
Why don't you?
When you say a couple, we talk in the baker's dozen.
What are we talking about?
Four.
Four?
Yeah.
Question: Do you have like a main piece?
Yeah, and then like you got a rotation.
You got a roster?
Yeah.
But it's like.
Did you say girl?
There was a girl in it?
No.
Okay.
All dudes.
All girls are cute.
Like, I get down with a girl, but like, relationship-wise, I'm not there yet.
Have you been with a girl?
I have.
Yeah.
You?
More than one?
No, it was just one.
Okay.
So, currently four guys.
And you said there's.
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Don't worry, girl.
Was that for me?
Don't damn.
Girl, no, don't talk serious.
It's from Billy Matt.
You've seen Billy Madison, right?
No.
Okay, it's Dom.
It's a dumb movie.
Yeah.
Well, at least he donated money.
I don't know if who I.
It might be.
I don't think it's addressed towards you.
But, yeah.
What was we talking about?
I feel like I have that on my soundboard somewhere.
I think I've heard it before.
You're talking about your roles.
Yeah.
I like athletes.
So it's a little difficult for me.
Oh, hold on.
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response.
Okay, we get thank you for the TTS.
Appreciate it.
So you like athletes.
Yeah.
And how?
Which athletes?
Like, I used to really mess with football players, but I'm leaning a lot towards basketball players right now.
You're leaning towards the basketball players.
Okay.
So how many?
So there's four.
Yeah.
Are they all basketball players?
Yes.
Same team?
No.
I don't want to name drop nobody.
NBA?
Yeah.
Huh?
Oh, wow.
Good for you.
All right.
I mean, if you want a name drop, you can name drop.
I can name like teams.
Okay.
Somebody from the Cavs.
Cavaliers?
Yeah.
Okay.
The Milwaukee Bucks.
Milwaukee Bucks, okay.
The Detroit Pistons.
I think that's it.
Because there's two from the same team, but I'm not going to say that.
And then, like, the one you rarely see is playing college ball.
I got two of us playing college ball, and then I got another one.
I got two that's about to go into the draft this year.
So.
Wait.
So is there more than four?
Yeah, there's more than four, but there's like a four that like.
Wait, closer to the mic?
Closer to the mic.
There's like a four that I text on like a daily basis, like hi, good morning.
That you tech, you send it.
Well, like, they either text me or I text them.
You know what?
There's a thing in your phone where you can actually automate text messages to go out.
Like at a certain time?
At a certain time, every single day.
I forgot it's in the automation setting.
So you might want to look into that just so you can automate the good morning text, you know?
I think they could also automate it based off when they leave their house.
So that could change every time.
Sure.
I did not know that.
Wait, so okay, so there's how many total is it?
There's none of that.
There's no football players in there, just basketball players?
There's a couple football players.
I don't think I've messed with anybody in the NFL right now.
Maybe in the past, but previously there was a NFL?
I forgot that one team, the Jets.
Something from New Jersey, I think.
New York.
Something like that.
Wait, okay.
So currently you're seeing three NBA players.
Yeah.
Do they buy you stuff?
They buy me plane tickets.
That's it.
For the most part.
You don't get a bag or anything?
I mean, if I ask.
Girl, you're going to get a bag.
I know.
Okay, so here's the thing.
Like, for me, like, I make money other ways.
But if you're fucking with somebody that makes that certainty.
Right, that's what I'm saying.
I just expect a good time whenever we go.
Whether it's vacations or they fly me out to their house and we do whatever we do there or wherever they're at, like they're in Chicago or New York, like spend time with them for a week.
Can I ask something?
Yeah, go ahead.
I want to know: is there an ever hey Nick?
Can you pass me the rugby ball over there?
It's on the top of the chair.
Not the rugby.
Any rugby players?
Thanks, Nick.
I've played female rugby.
Here, catch.
No rugby players in there?
No, no, no.
I mean, I'm not opposed to it.
Rugby players who are watching, her DMs are open.
Okay, so go ahead.
I wanted to ask you a question about that.
Is there an extra level of expectation when somebody does some grand romantic gesture?
what do you mean like if somebody set up like a nice date for me like do you believe that men initially do really nice things for women because they want sex I think it definitely plays a part, yes.
Like the further a man goes for you, he's definitely trying a lot harder to get to that point than somebody just not doing nothing.
So if so, why would a woman ever accept an extravagant offer from a man if she wasn't interested in having sex?
And that would that be leading him on?
Right.
I think accepting the offer and then even like changing your mind later, it really just depends.
Like you can see how the offer goes.
Maybe she's just giving it a try.
But like.
How would you feel about reimbursing a man if a relationship didn't end up happening?
That's not my fault.
If he wanted to pay for whatever, do whatever, that's, I didn't ask.
So but don't you feel like if you once you once you're like talking to somebody, I feel like you already know if you're gonna have sex with them or not.
Yeah, like straight off the bat.
So it's like at that point, are you really just leading them on if you're accepting everything that they're giving, knowing that you aren't gonna have sex with them?
Wait, just one thing.
Just when you're speaking, I do need to do a little closer to the microphone.
Go ahead.
If I keep accepting something from that man, then obviously I have some type of intention towards him.
But more than likely, if I really don't like him, I'm gonna just let him know.
Can I ask you one more?
When you first meet a guy, how do you know whether he's going to be a friend or more than a friend?
And more importantly, when do you decide?
Because it's often said a woman will know right away.
Right.
It's really based off that first conversation, just how their vibe is.
If they're like quiet and like just kind of like, hi, how are you?
How was your day?
But like they don't know how to like really have a conversation with me, then it's probably not going to go no further.
But if they're like kind of comfortable with me like talking, like cracking jokes, like just being comfortable.
But I'm saying if most women would know right away and then they're willing to accept an extravagant offer from a man, isn't that almost like, you know, in a way, consenting to the possibility of I'm interested in why would you accept the offer if you wasn't interested?
Okay.
How do you did you have more questions or that's as far as that goes?
How did you meet them?
Was it in person?
Did they message you on Instagram?
Instagram, really.
Yeah, did you message them?
Did they message you?
I personally don't like to message nobody because if you don't like me, then you don't like me and that's just that.
I've played a game though, like, you know, you like their photos or like I don't comment on nobody's stuff, but like if they have highlights, you like their highlights.
And then but why waste time?
Like why not to just talk to them potentially or make the first move?
Well you never know what somebody got going on.
Like not everybody posts their like significant other.
So if they're putting that like effort towards me, then I'm gonna go for it.
So okay.
Sorry, could I just one more question?
So for you it's mostly to make sure that they are single.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
But guys don't just because they're yeah.
You just never know because they'd be DMing you and they're not single.
Right.
And a lot of the time.
It's happened before.
Closer to the mic.
Yeah, it's happened before.
I'm not going to out that one person, but they are currently in a relationship.
One of the basketball players.
But they're also seeing you.
Her lips are sealed.
So you said you're currently seeing four.
Yeah.
Well, I'm not having, like, I'm not having sex with all four, but, like, currently talking to and, like, interacting, like, calling, texting, snapping, FaceTiming on a day.
Can I fly you out?
How many are you, you said you're not sleeping with all four.
How many are you hooking up with?
Well, their schedule's busy, so it's not like I could just go hook up with one of my little things.
Eric, can you close the door?
So do they fly you out?
Yeah.
Is the potential to hook up with all of them on the table?
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
So there's how many currently?
Because you said there's more than four.
Well, there's like that's just like NBA and then like you said, like four in the NBA that you're talking.
That are already in there, but there's two.
What do you mean you're already in there?
Like they're already drafted.
No, no, but four.
You've met them in person.
Yeah.
All of them.
Multiple times?
No.
Some of them I've only gotten flown out like once and we met that time.
You filled text.
Yeah.
Okay.
But that's it.
Got it.
Okay.
And then, oh my, hold on.
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So you said that was just the NBA.
Let's talk about Badminton.
How many, you got any days?
Badminton days?
Soccer?
No.
I wouldn't mind.
Cricket?
Any cricket?
No.
No cricket?
No.
What about any gamers?
No.
Like, any esports, Chads?
No.
League of Legends, World of Warcraft?
No.
But I'm not sure.
Counter-Strike.
I'm not opposed to none of that, but no.
Like, what if they have a really good, like, micro?
Like, would you be attracted to a dude who's just like micro?
Like, boom, send a tech, like, Command and Conquer, send a technical rush.
I mean, GLA.
If it pays the bills, then yes.
China Inf?
What if they like play China Inf?
Okay, so hold on.
That's fine.
But so you would date a gamer?
Yeah, I would.
Okay.
But you primarily prefer like proper athletes, not like, you know, game gamers, you know?
I don't really mind.
I'm not particularly.
Baseball?
You got a baseball?
Yeah.
I mean, I have talked to a couple of people.
What if you found out that gamers actually made more money than dollars?
I doubt that.
Well, no.
Asian gamers are you hitting in Asia?
Like the computer game players?
They make hella money, millions.
Yeah, they can't.
Some of them, the top guys, can make a lot of money.
But okay, so you're currently also seeing a baseball player or multiple baseball players?
No, I'm not seeing no baseball players.
Oh, previously, though, you had like a couple MIDI.
What is the league for the league for baseball?
MLB.
MLB?
Any MLB players?
Okay.
So there's football players?
Yeah.
How many football players you got right now?
Just two.
Just two?
Just two.
Okay.
Just two.
NFL?
Just one in the NFL.
And then one college player?
Yeah.
And then for basketball, any college players?
Yes.
Okay.
All right.
You're successful with the athletes.
Congratulations.
Okay, so.
And you said you meet most of them through Instagram.
Yeah, all of it is through Instagram.
Is there any reason, like, are you not wanting to date just one?
Well, if one showed me that he was, like, really pursuing me, like.
Because, like, I'm a little picky too.
I mean, clearly.
Yeah.
You like.
Exceptional athletes.
Do you think that women have the privilege of being more picky because they have more options?
Yes.
Yes.
Why do you think that so many women today are so reluctant to admit that they have privilege?
All right, come for it.
I feel like some girls just don't want to be perceived in a certain light, so they just try to keep things open.
Instead of just, if they feel some type of way, they just stand through it.
Plus, there's a different difference between privilege in dating and privilege in life.
But definitely girls have privilege in dating.
How isn't dating a huge aspect of life?
It is.
Yeah, go ahead.
I was just going to add on that.
I think a lot of women do unfortunately have trouble with taking accountability and they do also.
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Why do women choose the male role while also resenting the less salaried man?
Men traditionally are providers, yet 4-7-S50K's often won't look down on her.
But if a woman provides, she often resents the man when she forcibly switched the roles.
Word?
Huh?
Why do women choose the male role while also resenting the less salaried man?
I'm not sure the answer to that question.
Maybe, go ahead.
Oh, I think that there comes more of a victim mindset.
Maybe because women tend to lead more emotionally.
I think that's kind of my thoughts.
So just being emotional goes hand in hand with claiming victimhood?
I think not necessarily, but I think that they don't take too much of the time to logic, like step back and logically think to proceed, if that makes any sense.
Do you think there's a level of power and privilege that comes with victimhood?
Yes.
So could that possibly be linked to it?
Yeah, I think that they want to be seen as not privileged because it kind of intertwines with also being less than victim.
I mean, is it possible for women to be strong and independent, but also victims?
Yo, Eric, I think you need to boost your microphone a little bit.
I think it's number 10.
And independent in the sense of you know, they're taking care of themselves, maybe financially and everything like that, sure.
And they can also play the victim.
I think you can be both.
Isn't that a contradiction?
I don't think so.
Okay.
Hey guys, is the volume a little better?
One in the chat if the volume's a bit better, or two in the chat if we still need to boost it a little bit.
Are you dating any civilians right now?
Yeah, I'm talking to just a couple of the regular guys.
A couple regular guys?
What's a regular guy to you?
A regular guy is just someone who's not in the NBA, somebody who's not a rapper, somebody who's not in the industry.
Are any of but are they like are they wealthy?
Um, just not famous, or yeah, okay.
I'd try to be with somebody a little bit more well off.
Sure, okay.
Um, well, first off, I'm like, I'm appreciating just your forthcomingness and honesty sharing all that.
Um, that's certainly pretty impressive to me.
Uh, although I think it it's uh it's not uncommon, uh, especially you live in Los Angeles, correct?
I don't.
Oh, where do you live?
I live in Ohio right now.
Wait, oh, right.
Okay, you're in Ohio.
Yeah.
I thought, wait, but I LBC?
Is that so?
I come back here almost like every other month because majority of my family does like still live here, so I'll come and like kick it with my family.
Okay.
Interesting.
Okay.
Just I want to ask everyone else at the table here.
So she's dating or has dated multiple NBA players, NFL players, some other athletes.
Any musicians, actors?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Producers?
Mainly just rappers.
Any names we would know?
I wouldn't put it out.
You wouldn't want to?
Okay, of course.
Of course.
But would we know the names?
Yeah, you would.
Most of them do stay in LA.
Does it start with a D and end with a rake?
Uh-uh.
No, no, Drake, not yet.
I love them, man.
It's in the works.
Question: If Drake slides into your DMs, are you on it?
Let everybody go.
They're all gone.
The rest are gone.
Everybody's gone.
Can I ask a question?
Do you think we would do that for you, though?
You don't care?
You don't care about the loving relationship?
I mean, okay, listen, though, late.
It's Drake history.
I can't have no fucking loving relationship.
So I have a question about that, right?
So I'm sure each of you has a celebrity crush, right?
Yeah.
I'd like to pose a question to the panel.
If each of you had the opportunity to hook up with your celebrity crush, would you take it?
Yes.
Like, that's my crazy.
So when a woman says I'm not that type of girl, is she really saying I'm not the type of girl with you, but I am that type of girl with my celebrity crush?
Yes, with you.
So wouldn't that mean that women will make rules for the wrong guy, but break rules for the right guy?
Yeah.
Okay.
Modern dating 2023.
Okay.
So there are the rules.
There are no rules.
So, okay.
I want to open this up to the rest of the table.
So, and I know Instagram recently, anyone can get a blue check mark now, so it's not a big deal.
But, like, before that, have any of you here been contacted via Instagram by someone with a blue check mark prior to the recent changes?
So, we're talking a famous athlete, musician, actor, whatever it may be.
Yes, however, if I do not feel a connection with them, I do not take it further.
Have you taken it further with a blue check mark person?
I guess I've dated someone, but that was a serious relationship.
It wasn't just a hookup.
You ended up dating them?
Yeah.
And he DM'd you?
Yes.
So you guys met online?
Yes.
Through Instagram?
No, not through Instagram.
Twitch streamers.
Yes.
She's a Twitch streamer?
Yes.
XQC?
No.
Okay.
But the Twitch streamer.
Okay.
What about you?
No.
No blue check marks?
No.
But I'm sure you've gotten a blue check mark in your DMs.
No.
No?
Okay.
What about you?
Some blue check marks?
Yeah.
In the DMs?
NBA players?
You guys might be Eskimo sisters, maybe.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm going to be honest, you really never know.
I'm not going to say they're easy, but they are easy.
They get around.
Yeah, like if they like they just can get them.
Exactly.
That's all they take.
It's easy.
Okay.
You said you got some blue check marks?
Yeah, but it never went anywhere.
This was like...
Did you meet up?
No.
Okay, but there was.
It was just like conversation.
It kind of led to nothing.
Yeah.
And just I want to add one thing to this.
Have you ever had an offer to be flown out to?
Yes, and usually I decline.
Any fly out offers?
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Take it or no?
No.
Okay.
I should have.
And you've been flown out.
I mean, if you had to put a number on it, how many times have you been flown out by a guy?
Close to the mic.
This trip I actually got flown out.
To California?
Yeah.
by an nba player no he's put his name in the draft but he's an athlete yeah Yeah.
Okay.
So he flew you out because you're in Ohio, but he flew you out to LA.
Yeah, because a lot of them are in LA right now for like workouts and stuff.
What's up?
I have a question.
Do they know that you're on here and do they know about each other?
I hope not.
But if they see me, we're probably going to talk about it later.
I doubt anything would change, though.
I had a block one, though.
Oh, what?
Did you have a block one?
I had to block an NBA player.
You blocked an NBA player.
Why is that?
He didn't score enough points in his last game?
To be honest, I don't really watch their games much unless I'm there at the game.
Has a guy ever who was in the NBA flown you out and then you go and see his game?
That's the majority of the time.
Back.
No, I just see in the stands.
I mean, I could ask him for court side, but I'd rather not make anything too obvious.
Yeah.
Especially if they got other stuff.
Yeah.
Okay.
Has there ever been a situation where an NBA player, how many games have you been comped?
Just two.
Oh, just two?
Yeah, just two.
Question.
Have you ever been seeing a guy from both teams and they're playing against each other?
I've had guys from, actually, yeah, I have.
Oh, yeah, I did.
Oh.
From the Indiana Pacers when they were playing against the Bucks.
Playing against the Bucs.
Yeah.
So you're seeing a point guard.
I wasn't seeing them at the same time.
I don't know their positions.
Well, I know their positions, but I don't know them off the bottom.
Tell me about starters.
I don't know.
One of them was.
She doesn't date people on the bench, okay?
She only dates.
That's a lie.
That's what we're doing.
Can I ask this also?
You didn't play much?
A lot of you talk about wanting this high-value guy.
Would you be more interested in sharing a high-value man with another woman or having an average man all to yourself?
Right.
Good question.
So here's my take on that.
And you guys can let me know.
But for me, dating now, it's definitely different.
I guess as long as I'm taking care of my like, tuition is taken care of, car notes taken care of, living sorry, hold on just one second, yo FLAN LIFE.
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Uh, we'll do the fit check here in just a sec.
Let me write that down.
You're saying that your tuition is paid for, your car note is paid for.
Yeah, so you have the guys who you're seeing, the.
Is it the NBA players that are paying for this?
Nobody's paying for something right now.
Oh, okay.
I thought.
I'm just saying like from that point when he asked me like, okay, are you okay with like sharing a dude?
Honestly, as long as he's not all up in my face, like he just brought another girl over and I'm there, I'm not about to go look through your phone and make something of something if I'm taken care of.
So as long as you don't know about it, you're okay with it.
Yeah.
And that she's being provided for.
Yeah, and now I'm obviously being taken care of.
Okay.
Okay.
And so the question is, would they rather share a high-status guy or get commitment, monogamy from more of an average normal guy?
Do you want kids?
I'm not opposed to it.
Well, let's go around the table on his question.
So would you rather have a really high status guy?
Say you're the, let's maybe in this example, she's the main chick.
Is that fair?
Sure.
She's the main chick, but there's going to be side chicks.
Or do you get monogamy commitment, but from like a normal, normal guy?
So you're celebrity, let's say you're celebrating crutch.
You're the main chick for your celebrity crush, but he's going to be there's going to be some other chicks involved.
I'm super into monogamy.
I find it really special because it is a choice that we make.
So I would go for the average committed relationship.
Guys, how's the volume?
One in the chat if the volume on her microphone's okay.
Is it not peaking?
One in the chat if her audio is okay or if it's too low.
How's the audio?
Hello?
Chat?
Audio is good.
Looks like audio is okay.
Okay, cool.
Guys, if it's peaking, let us know.
Eric, keep an eye on that.
Would you rather share a high-status guy or get monogamy from a normal average guy?
I think I would.
Closer to the mic.
I think I would definitely share, like, if it's like a high-status guy.
I mean, it's different, though.
It's like, like, yeah, if you keep it on the low, don't tell me about it.
It's whatever.
But, like, if we have to, like, be able to discuss that, though, and say, like, this is what this is, you know, rather than being blindsided about it, even though it's, like, you know.
You'd want him to be upfront with it.
Yeah.
Okay, sure.
So some people want to know and some people don't want to know, which I think is interesting.
Yeah.
It just depends, because it's like, if you're dating a more valued man or high-valued man and he has like, like, y'all have no connection, like, are you saying, like, you would have a connection with that person and they're talking to other people and doing like stuff with other people?
You're the main chick.
He's high status.
You're a celebrity crush.
Yeah, I would definitely have to be like, I don't know, communicated and I'd have to be taken care of for real if I was.
Sure.
Like, is emotional taken care of a factor at all?
Is it just?
That is, because it's like, if I don't feel no connection with that person, I'm not going to be there and be like, yeah, I'm with him just so that he takes care of me.
Gotcha.
But what, if you had kids with this person, would you care then?
I don't think I would let it get that far.
Like, if I, I feel like I would know before it got to the point of children if I really had a connection with that person.
Date anyone if you're not like eventually trying to get to it's true, but you're also like trying to learn people.
Like nobody's gonna show you who they truly are at first, you know?
Like it's kind of like you learn more about people and then make the decision as you go.
So you want to go from like polyamorous to monogamous eventually.
So like for instance, if you like a man but you're in some sort of polyamorous relationship or non-committal relationship and then you want to turn that into a husband, you just plan on him switching to monogamy now?
I don't know.
No.
Well a lot of time, I'm gonna be honest, if you're doing that with that man, you know, he already got his other things.
Sorry about that.
It's not gonna work with him.
You're gonna have to find somebody else.
Unless y'all really talk and y'all really like, okay, like I'm missing with you.
Like I've tried all these other people and it's just not working.
I keep coming back to you, then you guys can have that talk.
But more than likely, if you are trying to really settle down and you're with somebody like that, it's just not gonna work.
So just to continue going around the table on this, would you rather share a high-status guy, you're the main chick, but he's gonna have side chicks, or get monogamy from like average normal dude?
Well, I already said it.
I would rather be with somebody who taking care of you.
Yeah.
Because I'm not some people don't date for kids and like, oh, I need him to be all about me, like marriage, marriage, marriage.
Like if I'm looking for a good vibe and he gives that to me and he's respectful, because a lot of them are respectful, to me at least.
Okay.
You don't want kids?
If they come into play, then I'll have that conversation with them.
You want to be married before you have kids?
Yeah.
You have to be married.
Yeah.
What about you?
Share or?
Well, if it's like, what is the, what is the sharing?
Am I sharing you with another woman all the time?
Or is it that my husband went on vacation, he fucked a bitch in Brazil and came back home to me.
Never gonna see her again.
Let's say like El Salvador.
Let's not say Brazil.
It was in El Salvador, so it's a little.
Okay.
But Peru, maybe Chile.
But it's not like it's a mistress.
Am I sharing him with somebody else like that?
Or am I the queen?
And then he guys are going to get horny anywhere they go.
He goes on vacation, some big booty bitch is on him and he fucks up.
But it's like if we were married for 20 years is that and we have kids, that's not really fair of me to just done, go away if it just happened once and you're never gonna see this woman again.
Would you see that almost more of like emotional cheating versus just sexual gratification?
That would just be like sexual gratification.
Right.
So it's like it's just more logical to not leave you if that's the situation that happened.
But then it's like if you're allowing another woman to feel the same way that I'm feeling and you're letting another woman feel this like she's in the same position as me, then that's completely different.
That's having a mistress.
So let's say yes, there's a mistress.
There's a mistress and no, I'll settle for the loyalty.
I don't need what about like once a quarter he's he like hooks up some chicken once a quarter in like Luxembourg or something.
Once a year like once a year or like a couple of times a year?
Four times a year like once a quarter.
That's a little much.
Like Q1, Q2, Q3.
That's a little much.
If we're married, that's a little much.
If it happened like If it happened in ten like ten we were married for ten years and it happened, it would be really easy.
Hold on, just oh, yeah, AB check, thank you for the uh twenty gifts.
I appreciate it.
Thank you so much, man.
Flan Life, we will get the fit check here in just a sec.
I just want to finish going around on this table.
So like it's just if you have kids with that person and you have a marriage with that person and you have like, you know, you've built your life with this person already and they cheated because they were horny.
Men are gonna cheat.
Men are animals.
They're literally you guys are just gonna cheat.
It's just in your nature.
Erroneous.
Erroneous.
There's a lot of men that are loyal.
There's a lot of men.
Of course there's a lot of men that are loyal, but like it is in it's in a lot of men's nature, that's like they're.
It's hard to have them commit to one person, commit to one woman.
And you know, it's hard for one man to go 20 25 30, 40 years with one woman and I I I, like I'm, I'm not gonna say, we're not gonna say the same thing, we're gonna think other guys are attractive.
I'm pretty sure we have more control over that as women, but you know, a man, it's really hard for I, I know that it's gonna be really hard for one man to be having sex, just sex, with one person for that long of a time.
Are your parents together?
No, but my mom is married with my stepdad.
Do you think your stepdad cheats on your mom?
I don't think my stepdad cheats on my mom.
So why can your stepdad do it?
What do you mean?
I didn't say he could do it like your dad.
Like I'm saying, your stepdad is able to remain in a monogamous relationship with your mom and he's not going around.
If my mom had kids with my stepdad and he cheated on her, she wouldn't divorce him if they were together for that long based huh, what are you, by any chance, Vietnamese?
Yeah, how did you know?
Uh well, slightly voke.
But also the talk about divorce.
Uh, because Vietnamese culture doesn't really divorce.
Yeah, hold on.
Yeah Robert, $101 girl in red.
What's your end goal with NBA players?
Let's be real.
You're being flown out for sex.
Only those players have busloads of women lining up for them for the same thing, dot.
Why do you think they'll do more for you besides just running through you?
Your response to Robert Mugabe, okay Robert um, let me read that real quick.
To be honest, rather than just getting I'm gonna just be a little vulgar here rather than just getting fucked by some random who don't have nothing to them, I shit, I'd rather be fucked by a baller.
But why?
Why get fucked at all?
Why can't you just like chill at home and why not pet your cat fun?
I just be like, can I not fuck you like she's like, why get fucked at?
Huh, I mean don't get me wrong like euphemism.
I just don't understand why you need to like, do you actually gain that much from having sex with these men?
Do you enjoy that so much?
I mean, it's not more so like, oh my god, like I'm gaining so much from fucking this dude.
It's not that it's just like.
I mean, how many times?
How many times do you get to a fucking NBA player?
How many times do you get to flown out, go to games, and do all this extra stuff?
Well, I don't know how they live.
Kind of frequent, though.
Yeah.
Like, you got that shit on a lot.
You got that shit figured out.
Right.
And you called them easy.
Yeah.
You said a lot of them are easy.
Yeah.
So easy to get attention-wise.
Like, apparently, a lot of times you'll have that opportunity.
It's not a rare opportunity.
Well, it really just depends on how the girl looks.
That's what I mean by it can be easy.
I'm not saying anybody can just have an IDM or start liking everybody's pictures and somebody won't talk to you.
That's not always the case.
In my case, I just get lucky to be noticed.
Sure.
Let's just continue with the question.
So would you rather share a high-status guy or get monogamy from a normal guy?
Well, if I was not in a relationship, definitely a normal guy.
Sorry, hold on.
$150.
I think Lauren is too smart for the rest of this panel.
She is growing on me and making something grow on me, LOL.
I would let her litigate all over me anytime.
Thank you.
Have a good sense.
I love my sense.
Litigate all over me anytime.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Yeah, so if I was not dating my boyfriend, then I would definitely choose an average guy that was loyal.
But I am lucky and I got a high-value status man all to myself.
Well, you're hold on, you're 21, right?
25.
Okay, I got that mixed up.
25.
When you say he's a high-value man, what do you think?
In my eyes.
Sure.
To me.
For me.
Okay.
And what does that look like to you?
Definitely.
Okay, so like a high-value man or him as a high-value man.
What's the difference?
What's the difference?
Well.
Closer to the mic.
Well, because I could be just describing him, but it's not necessarily that what it takes to be a high-value man.
Well, what does it take?
What do you think is?
Okay, is he a high-earner?
For his age, I'd argue.
Okay.
Is that the only high-value man?
No, I mean, there's other metrics, but that's one potential component of it.
Go ahead.
Would you say that looks, money, and status are part of that equation for most women?
For most women, for sure.
I think one of the most important things for me is his intelligence.
But for most women, I agree.
Okay, so for most women.
So if most women, if a man typically has to have looks, money, and status in order to attract lots of beautiful women, how is the man not considered the prize?
Oh, I definitely think I won.
Well, right, but I'm saying when you ask people when it comes to dating relationships, who's typically seen as the prize, the man or the woman, most people will say the woman.
Why is it?
Should we go around the table on this?
I mean, really quick?
Yeah, yeah, we can.
Just who's the prize?
Who do you think is the prize?
I don't think anyone in specific is the prize.
Okay.
Yeah, I don't.
Are you the prize?
Okay, are you the prize or is the man the prize?
I don't really know because sometimes it's just different on different standards and situations.
Just be honest, you can say it.
You can say it.
Yeah, I'm the prize.
Okay.
A little closer to the mic, though.
I don't know if they heard.
Yeah, I'm the prize.
Does her mic need to be boosted too, chat?
Hello?
We do.
I'm losing it a little bit too.
Okay.
The red restaurant.
Go ahead.
Logically, I think the man is the prize.
Okay.
I think that my man for me is a prize, but I hope that I am his prize.
I think that both are price of for each other because men choose women and women choose men.
So yeah, they both worth each other.
Lauren.
Yeah, same.
Both prizes for each other.
Do you want to continue with that?
I'll just say happy spouse, happy house.
Word.
And it goes both ways.
So bringing it to you.
High status man, but you're sharing him.
Normal guy, but.
Well, I'm actually into monogamy, so for me, it would be very difficult to share someone.
I would be very jealous.
Even though before that I didn't think that I'm jealous.
I mean, not before that, but like when I was younger, I didn't think that I'm jealous.
But yeah, for real.
Just one man.
And I also think that every man can be successful in life, especially if they have goal and if they have brain, they can definitely be.
So, and if they want.
Yeah, of course they want to be successful.
You're both from Russia, right?
Isn't it somewhat common?
At least this is what I've heard in Russia for there to be a mistress.
Is that common in Russia?
Are you talking about France?
Are you maybe mixing us up with France?
France, for sure?
I think I'm thinking about Russia.
I mean, I would not hope so.
I would not know, probably, but not as far as the people that I know.
Okay, all right.
So Lauren, what about you?
Share or monogamy?
Monogamy.
And also, I kind of take issue with the question because you're talking about high-valued man, and I just don't value people.
I think you could say high-earning man, maybe.
So are we just talking about does a man have a lot of money?
I feel like essentially the question is, if a man has a lot of money, would you let him fuck a lot of women?
And it's like, no, it doesn't matter how much money my man makes.
I want my man to be.
It's not even so much about being loyal to me.
It's more about being a good role model as a father.
And I don't want to be with a man who I don't think would make a good father to my kids.
So, and I wouldn't want my kids to see their dad running around with other women.
I just think that's gross.
So.
Yeah, by the way, Flynn, life, thank you for the extra gifted subs.
We'll get the fit check here in just a sec.
Did you have a string that you wanted to continue with?
I was just going to say, I'd be willing to share myself with multiple women.
No, I'm just kidding.
Okay, I'd like to.
All right.
Let's try this one.
Have any of you guys ever used Tinder or dating apps before?
And what was your experience?
Hated Tinder.
Yeah, Tinder is like sucky.
But like, Hinge is not bad.
Okay, I've heard a lot of people talk about Hinge.
I'm on the right stuff.
Do you, why do you think that women typically get far more matches than men?
Go ahead.
Well, I just wanted to say that men probably just swipe right and then see who swipes right on them.
I think it's because men are on there and it's a lot easier for men to find a woman attractive than women to find men attractive.
So we're all going to say it's a lot more, it's a lot more probable for a woman to get more people that are finding her attractive than a random man to just have women constantly finding them attractive.
And I also feel like you're not just looking, at least for women.
Hold on.
Robert Mugabe donated $100.
Thank you, I appreciate it.
Okay, so let me get this straight.
Girl in red is happy to adjust her back blown out, but NBA players for now.
But what about the long term?
Do you want to get married eventually?
How do you think your future potential husband will feel about that?
Your answer quickly.
Yes.
So Hopefully my husband can accept me for me.
I'm still young now, so I'm going to use that as my excuse.
But everything I do, I definitely think about whether it's sex protection is used.
Protection's used?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
You sure?
Yeah.
You sure?
A lot of them want to use it.
Oh, yeah, the hot sauce thing.
Yeah, a lot of them want to use it, so I'm not against it.
Okay.
Apparently, in the NBA, even going back to the 90s, they would send out these memos instructing these new NBA drafts who are perhaps a bit naive and young that not only should they wear condoms when sleeping with these women, they should also be sure to like tie a knot in it and flush it down the toilet because what these women would do is like, and I think this happened to Drake recently or some shit.
The women would like get the condoms and like try to inseminate themselves so they could get a baby so that they could get child support from presumably well athletes tend to make a good amount of money.
So and they're also athletes.
So that's.
I mean, yeah, you gotta think like I'm not saying I do this, but I mean oh my god.
Pushy magnet donated $100 and 69.
Ever had bad vibes with a high-value man?
Are vibes synonymous with good looks?
Thank you, Pushy Magnet, for the $100.69.
Appreciate it.
I mean, like I said, I had a blogging NBA player before because he was just every time we would talk, it was always about sex.
And then when I would like defer from that topic, he would like, he would low-key trip on me.
Oh, so he just wanted you for sex, basically.
It was, it was, yeah.
And sometimes it's like that.
But if I can't even have like a regular conversation with him, I just can't.
Like, you always send me your dick, like, yeah.
Send him the D.
They be sending to the PM and they in their bed.
What the fuck?
Yep.
See, I wouldn't, I can't, I mean, I guess they do it, but to me, it's just like, you know, why would you, if you're out there in the public, you know, why would you because it could get leaked.
Right.
Well, I've never sent a dick pic.
Yeah.
I wouldn't send a dick pic.
I'm not trying to get that shit out there, you know?
Don't.
I mean, that's what I've been thinking.
I think women should send pussy pics, though.
I'm in favor of pussy pics.
Women should start saying pussy pics.
Revenge.
I think it's revenge for all the dick pics.
It's just been slying around for.
Hold on.
Mike Davis donated.
Yo, thank you, Mike Davis.
What's good, Shorty with the red and dark hair?
I'm no NBA player, but I probably got more bread and brains than those bench players.
I earned my way.
If not for athleticism, they'd be hustling a mixtape on the street corner.
Let me slide in.
Well, you got my Instagram.
If you want to take a look at the screen here, this is Mike Davis.
We have a photo of him in the studio.
He's one of our longtime patrons.
I don't know if you can tell.
He works.
Oh, that's him?
That's Mike Davis.
That's the guy who just super chat.
Handsome guy, right?
He owns like 331 Burger King restaurants on the East Coast.
He's trying to get question.
Like Mike Davis.
Yeah.
I've known Mike Davis for a very long time.
He once, we were on a camping trip, and believe it or not, it was like in the, what's the mountain range in California?
It's the Appalachian Trail.
Me and we were camping together.
Oh, y'all are close.
We're close.
Platonically.
Like, there's no romance or anything.
We did share a tent once, though, like, on the Appalachian Trail.
It was a romance.
It's okay.
Yeah, he's a patron of mine, so I fly out and we talk.
But he rescued me from a bear.
And so I'm like forever in his debt.
So can I connect you with Mike Davis?
He got my Instagram.
How did he rescue you from a bear?
Yeah.
So he was on the night patrol because it was the Appalachian Mountains, so we didn't want any meth heads trying to fuck us up.
So he was like standing guard outside the tent, right?
And I'm like, I need my beauty sleep.
So I was like, fucking knock the fuck out.
So he was like, you know, chilling.
And there's a fucking black bear.
How did he, I mean, he's like, because we left some food out accidentally.
Like, there's some Burger King wrappers and shit just like strewn across the campsite.
So like, he fucking like, he had some bear mace, like one of those big canisters.
So he like, this black bear comes charging fucking charging at him.
Boom.
Sprays the fucker.
Saved me.
Did you wake up?
Or was you just?
Yeah, I woke up.
The black bear was tripping the fuck out and Mike Davis was like, fuck off.
So he saved me.
So like, can I, I'm, like, kind of his wingman.
Yeah.
Are you down?
Like, could I get you guys linked up?
He's a good dude.
Linked up?
Like, what you mean?
Like, does he change?
He's down to fly you out.
Where he spaid?
He's on the East Coast.
Oh, he's on the East Coast.
Can I get you guys linked up, huh?
We could talk about it.
And he's a gentleman, too.
He owns a couple burgers.
He'll comp whatever you want at Burger King.
Why would you choose NBA players or for somebody who's like actually worked hard, made a living, have like Mike Davis?
I mean, he's handsome man.
I mean, I'm going to be honest, but I'm not knocking nobody who worked hard for their money.
Like, Mike, look cool.
Like, I'm not knocking nobody for their money.
I don't care how you get the money as long as you got it.
These aren't prescription, by the way.
He has perfect 20-20 vision.
He just, it's more like an aesthetic.
Very good.
It's an aesthetic thing.
His vision's good, so his genes are good.
Are you down?
How tall is he?
6'3.
Is he a little basketball player?
Yeah, 6'3.
So, after the show, can I get you guys?
Yeah, we could talk about it.
You know what, Mike Davis?
I got it.
Mike Davis, just slide into her DMs.
Yeah, you got my Instagram.
Okay.
So, anyways, what were we talking about?
Yeah, you wanted to.
Well, I wanted to ask a question.
Also, what are your thoughts on, like, there's a common perception about modern women today?
I've heard they say modern women today don't care about a man's struggles.
They just want to show up at the finish line and pick the winners.
Do you think that's true?
And if so, why?
Well, I'm going to be honest.
I've messed with a couple guys that have been through stuff, like more challenges in life than somebody who was just born into money.
And honestly, they're a lot more down to earth.
Yeah, like I can have a conversation with somebody who slept in a car before or had to sleep in a car before.
Wait, question.
Is 6'3 too short?
No, 6'3 is 5'0.
You kind of scoffed when I said 6'3.
I know you date NBA ballers, but is that too short for you?
The tallest that I had was like 7'2.
And I'll be honest, like, it's kind of hard to get away from.
It's a wrap.
I'm sorry, Mike Davis.
It's over for you, right?
No, like 6'3 is perfect.
Get some help.
6'3 is perfect.
I think anything over like, because I'm a little taller, I'm like 5'6.
I think anything over like 5'8 is fine for me.
Oh, anything more than 5'8?
Go ahead.
Do you think you're more likely to meet a beautiful woman who's down to earth or a high-value man who's down to earth?
Oh, a beautiful woman that's more down to earth.
Which one was more likely to overcome hardship?
I would probably say the woman.
Can you compare the ugly duckling woman to the high-value man who had to earn his status?
Wait, why are y'all shaking your heads?
Am I missing something?
Do you really think that a pretty woman has a harder time throughout life than a man who has to work for his wealth and they strive to get to the top?
I'm just like, okay, like, who has it harder?
Heidi Klum or Mark Cuban throughout life.
Maybe you're going to have to lower them numbers.
I don't know.
Oh, you don't know those people?
Okay.
Who had it harder?
Haley Bieber or I try to find like Gen Z people.
What?
What the fuck is this question?
Okay.
Here, let's do a fit check because Flan Life has been.
Alright, so fit check, everybody.
We've got to do a little stand-up.
We're going to check everyone's fit, you know.
So if everyone wants to stand up, you can say, you know, where your outfit's from.
Are we doing a group stretch?
If you want, you can.
Join us.
All right.
Is this Valenciaga over here?
What you got?
Oh, no, I just bought this from Korea.
Korea?
Yeah.
Like the government?
The government sold it to you?
No, like that's North Korea?
No.
It's like just bulk.
I traveled to Korea and I bought it.
North Korea?
With Kim Jong, what are the tattoos on your, what are those?
What does they say?
Angel?
One says angel, another one says devil.
Is there something in between angel and devil?
Like a fallen angel?
I don't know.
Okay.
There's the fit check.
Does everyone want to do a little spin so they can?
You know, we've got to see the spins.
Full spin.
Full spin roo.
Okay.
We got some jeans over here.
We've got some Valenciaga.
We got.
I'm not sure what.
What do you call those pants with the sides visible?
Is there a name for them?
Did you rip them yourself or did they come like that?
They came like the special.
Okay, thank you, Flan Life.
Thank you so much.
And this is Teespring t-shirt, right?
Yes.
It's actually Teespring.
It's complicated.
That's his YouTube channel.
He's got the Nirvana, smells like Teen Spirit white thing, you know, under, you know, rocking that, and some black jeans.
He's got the new balance.
Yo, guys, show the new balance.
Oh, my God.
We've got Steve.
Oh, he's taking it off.
Are you going to?
Super handy.
I dare you to smell it.
Okay, that's fine.
Don't do that.
Okay, everyone can sit down now.
Thank you, Flan Life, for okay.
Where were we?
We were talking.
Oh, I want to finish off on a previous conversation we were having.
So we were talking about blue checks.
Blue checks.
By the way, guys, I have OCD.
Can you guys see the screen flickering?
Is his screen flickering?
Actually, I don't really see it anymore.
Maybe it's the angle.
It's fine.
Okay.
I think we left off with you.
So have you had any blue check marks slide into your DMs?
Yes.
How many?
A lot.
A lot.
How many?
What are we talking here?
Break it down.
Well, when I was single, it used to be a lot, a lot more.
Did you post your boyfriend?
Hold on.
On your Instagram?
Not like that, not like his face, but like, you know, like...
Wait, Eric, can you pull up her Instagram?
We'll do a little deep dive here.
1.5, 1.
Wait, one-year relationship.
Yeah, it's been like a year and four months.
Year and four months.
That's kind of post your boyfriend territory.
Well, like, I don't like post him.
Like, I like don't, I'm not going to like make like a whole post about him and like, oh, hey, baby, I love you so much.
Like, this is why I love you.
Like, you know, like, happy birthday.
Like, I'm not going to do that.
But, like, I post my dates that I go on with him.
To your stories?
Yeah.
Which disappear?
Which disappear, yeah.
I put it on my highlights.
Eric, can you pull up the Instagram?
What's your name?
Hey, Kelly Lou.
What?
K-E-L-L.
It's in the description of the video.
I was excellent at that time.
But so, okay, you get blue check marks in your DMs.
Have you ever met up with any of them?
Yeah.
But this is when I was saying that.
Well, yeah, I'm talking when you're single.
Obviously, you're in a relationship now, but prior to your current relationship.
Yeah.
What's like the baddest MF that slid into your DMs?
NBA player?
Well, it's like a bunch of, yeah, it's a bunch of those and a bunch of like, you know, athletes or just like random guys who like, I don't know.
Okay.
Oh.
Here it is.
Okay.
So we're going to just take a look.
Scroll down, Eric.
Let's see.
Let's look at the Instagram.
Okay.
Keep going.
Keep going.
One.
Where's the boyfriend?
I know, I told you.
I don't post him on there, but if you go on my stories.
Oh, the stories.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
1.4 year relationship?
He doesn't post me.
By the way.
He doesn't post you?
No, I told him that he doesn't.
Well, he'll like, you know, he'll post a story too.
But like, every single thing I post on my story is usually with him.
He knows that.
Okay.
How many DMs do you still get, though, from guys, even though you're in a relationship?
So I'm a stylist, so I...
Well, I'm talking romantically.
Like, it's clear that your stylist for men or for women?
Both.
Okay.
How many DMs is like where it's kind of evident that the guy's sliding in there where there's a romantic interest?
A lot of the, I would say maybe like out of all the DMs I get, like definitely like 80% of them are guys who are trying to like, you know, get at me.
But then the other 20% is either like a client who's actually serious about working with me or just like my friend, like just friends, guys that are just.
How many DMs a day do you get?
Like from different people?
Yeah.
Maybe like six or seven only.
Okay.
And how many are like romantically shooting their shots?
Am I talking back to them?
Because if you're just them hitting you up.
I don't reply.
I don't really reply at all.
But how many are hitting you up in a day?
Or in a week?
In a week.
I would say like 10, 15.
Okay.
But that's like in the requests and everything.
I'm not replying to.
Sure, sure.
Okay.
Did you have something related to this?
Sort of.
I mean, obviously, we were talking about dating apps earlier, but I think a lot of people almost use Tinder as a dating app, a form of dating app.
So I was wondering.
They use Instagram or they use Tinder?
Well, they'll use Tinder, but I think also a lot of people will slide into your DMs on Tinder.
So Tinder's.
Sorry, not Tinder, Tinder, on Instagram.
And so Instagram is almost like another dating app for someone.
It is a dating app.
I would say that for sure.
I think I would definitely agree.
But honestly, I prefer if I was using it as a dating app, I prefer to use Instagram over Tinder anyways, to be honest.
So where I was going with this is, if a woman has lots of sexy photos on her dating profile or maybe her Instagram and no bio, should she be surprised if guys are only contacting her for hookups?
course not that's what she's that's you know that's why I don't get I'm not getting mad or I'm not texting these guys like don't talk to me I have a boyfriend You know, it's like, I'm not going to get mad at you.
I don't post my boyfriend.
I already know that.
So it's like, people are going to assume that I'm single.
So you feel like she's kind of putting herself out there in that way.
What do you?
In other words, if she's got a dating profile, no bio, lots of sexy photos, you feel like she's kind of sending a message like, I'm just open to hookups.
I don't think it's just, I'm open to hookups.
It's just this is what I'm posting.
Okay, but I mean, should she be surprised if she's getting contact from why not?
Surprised because that's your like I said before.
Like, women are gonna get men that are finding you attractive.
Men are gonna find women attractive.
Like, anyone, every single one of us in this room have men in our DMs who think they're attractive.
So, it's like, how are you?
But why are we gonna get mad at somebody who's just complimenting you?
Because these guys are coming out of their way, DMing you because they think you're attractive.
Brian, are you getting DMs from guys thinking that you're attractive?
From dudes, actually, yeah, there's been some dudes talking and hitting me up and shit.
Not a lot, but I'm trying to answer.
Robert Mugabe donated $101.
She justified getting run through by NBA players by saying I'm young now.
I'm going to use that as my excuse.
Brian, John, and Lauren, I am disappointed in you for not pressing her enough on this.
Age is not a good excuse for being 304.
Isn't Robert Mugabe like some fucking isn't that like some guy in Africa who's like a dictator tyrant or some shit?
Confirm or deny, are you the fucking president of some where should I stay there then?
Like old dictator.
Oh my god.
Mike Davis donated $100.
Brian, I'm not gonna lie, I was about to let that bear pounce, but then God came to me in a revelation and said it's not your time yet.
You still have work left on this earth, gatekeeping these streets.
Praise the Lord, not me.
Hallelujah.
Yo, Mike Davis, thank you, man.
Yeah, I appreciate you being there to defend me against that.
I think it might have had rabies, too.
Like, it was frothing at the mouth.
So, like, yeah, they had a tech.
He got he had to go to the hospital after because he got a little, he got cut.
So, if you actually meet him, he'll show you the scars from the bear.
I didn't know the bear got that close.
Yeah, he has he has battle scars.
So, yeah, you owe him a lot.
I am indebted to him for life big time.
That's why I'm trying to get a little connection between okay.
All right, um, we were going around the table, blue check marks.
Uh, you've had a cut, you've had a bunch.
What about you?
Any blue check marks in your DMs?
Yeah, don't actually know any blue check marks ever.
And in fact, the fact that Instagram could be used as a dating website, I found out about three months ago or four months ago.
I don't get contact chased, but I'm not going to sign anymore.
You not really, no, no, maybe like longer ago, but not really now.
No, okay.
What about you, Lauren?
I'm in the past, I don't really post on Instagram, so okay.
All right, all right.
Uh, let's do a couple super chats here.
We need to get caught up on them.
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Okay, let's get some super chats here.
Let's see here.
Oh, have you gotten any blue check marks from some babes in your DMs or what?
Not quite yet, but I'm thinking that I could nowadays one could just buy their blue check marks.
So does it really have any value?
Oh, before?
Oh, no, yeah, no.
But I'm looking forward to it.
I actually, I had a month ago, I had my first blue check mark DM from a chick.
And, bro, girls have no fucking game.
You'll have zero fucking game.
Holy shit.
If I was sending that exact same message to a chick, bro, she ain't responding.
But I mean, is a blue check mark going to make that girl, you know, more attractive to you, you know, as far as I mean, guys don't really care about stats.
No, actually, it's worse.
Yeah.
It's actually worse.
Wait, what did she say?
So, okay, I have this thing where like I've said that I like, look, I don't really care about height, but I like short women.
Like four feet, 4'11, you know?
If her height doesn't start with 4, she ain't the one, that type of shit.
Well, women have high preferences, huh?
It's all it's wrong.
The dude has a high preference.
Are you into tiny pretty good?
Bro, I would be so down for a dwarf.
If anybody knows any dwarves, can you hook it up?
Oh, really?
Yeah, I can't do it.
Hook it up.
Like female dwarves, huh?
I know they go by that term.
Like, I'd be done to be friends with like a male dwarf.
Oh, okay.
No, dwarf.
Dwarf is the.
Well, I guess now it's moving towards little person.
Yeah, no, that's what it was.
But I think dwarf is still like appropriate.
It's still appropriate.
But yeah, if you guys know anybody, hook it up.
You know somebody?
Who's a dwarf?
Who's a dwarf?
How tall are you?
I'm 4'11.
Oh!
Oh, there you go.
Oh, fuck, it's not work.
God damn it, the Romeo sound.
Eric, do you have a blue check?
It's not your fault.
I do not have to check.
She doesn't have blue checks.
I only have a check mark on Twitch.
That's it.
That's a blue check.
There you go.
I'm skirmishing or hitchhiking.
Wait, Jose.
Will you marry me?
I would say, can I try it on?
Yeah, sure.
Hold on.
She's keeping the ring.
Hold on.
Oh, good catch.
Bad throw.
If it doesn't fit, it's a no.
Rest in peace.
R.I.P.'s in the chat.
Preemptively.
It's probably too big.
Where did you pull that from?
Yeah, that's true.
Rip.
RIP's in the chat for Brian.
Okay, here, I'll take it back.
Got dwarf fingers.
Yeah, 4'11.
I don't know.
Where was I going with that?
You got a DM from a blue check mark and she said, Oh, something.
She's like, I'm 5'1.
That's it.
And I was like, I was like, oh, sorry, too tall for me.
Like, in a joking way.
Wait, that's so cute.
How do you say that's bad?
Wait, is that the first one?
She just said I'm 5'1, and then she shucked the rest of the conversational burden on me.
Like, she had 11 million followers, by the way.
And I'm like, okay.
I think that's kind of cute.
Like, she knows.
It would have been cute if she continued the conversation, but she's just like, I don't know.
Girls have no game.
Okay.
Here, I'll take it back.
I'm sorry.
We're divorced.
Thank you.
Just give me it.
All right.
Cool.
Okay.
Just the girls you interact with have no game?
Because some girls do.
Not many, not many, but some do.
Women don't.
Well, here's the thing.
Women don't need game.
Sometimes they do.
At least from a personal experience.
I can tell you I do.
Lesbians.
Okay, so if you woke up tomorrow as a man and you wanted to get laid, like a lot of guys do, how would you do it?
I don't think I would have that desire one morning that I wake up randomly.
But I have definitely had to make the first move.
I had to write to a guy.
Like, I actively made myself put myself out there.
Here, pull the mic closer to you.
Just put it at the very edge of the table.
So, yeah, I just think personally, I do make the move, but I do know that not most people do.
Well, the exception doesn't make the rule, and generally speaking, like women don't need game to get a guy.
You just, I mean, it sort of ties into the whole, like, a lot of you receive getting DMs, right?
You kind of just have to be out in the ether, and guys will come to you.
Again, you don't have the case for everyone.
I just said I have no blue check marks.
What do you mean?
Well, just, well, just an example, right?
Yeah, but if you were to download the dating app, for example, like you would just be getting matches, boom, boom, boom.
True.
On a dating map, they would be messaging you.
They would be asking you for the date.
They'd be asking you for the number.
They would be setting up the date, planning the date, paying for the date, moving things forward on the date, going for the first kiss, moving things forward sexually.
So guys are expected to pretty much do everything throughout the entire early stages of a relationship.
Again, would be nice, for sure, but there have been so many times that I had to do that.
Which I actually don't find a problem with.
I just think that there are different women.
All I'm arguing here.
So sorry, so sorry.
Just to finish Brian's point.
Brent, that, yeah, to say no women have game, that's just incorrect.
Some women will have it.
Most women will have it.
Okay, sure.
I suppose I'll refine my statement.
Women don't need game.
And most women don't have game, though, because they don't need it.
Fully agree now with the statement.
Yeah.
Now, I wanted to ask you, a lot of women, I asked them why don't they typically approach men and they will often say because they're afraid of rejection.
So I asked them, if a woman chooses to approach a man and shoot a shot, is she more or less likely to be rejected than if a man approaches a woman?
I'm probably less likely to be rejected, yeah.
Why do you think women are afraid of being rejected when they're far less likely to be rejected?
I think it's just like a mental thing.
Like you just think.
So what advice would you give to men who fear rejection?
Oh, well, to both men and women, I would give the same advice, which is just go for it.
If they will reject you, they're not meant for you.
And so don't waste your time.
I always say rejection is simply redirection.
So if that person does not want you, then you are being directed to another pathway that's better for you.
I don't think.
Yeah, I don't think you should go somewhere where you're not appreciated, obviously.
Yeah.
But I didn't like your premise to that.
Something about that question again.
Oh, that was in my head.
This is in his brain.
Yeah, in my memory bank.
Okay, you said that women approach men because they're, or sorry, women don't approach men because they're afraid of rejection, but that's not the reason women don't approach men.
What would your reason?
Women don't approach men because they want masculine men and they want the qualities of a man who is going to be the type of man to approach them.
They don't want the type of man who is going to accept a woman.
And there's actually a dating book.
I wish I remember the name of it.
But a woman says if you are reaching out to the man, that relationship will not work because you are asking.
Fake news.
Disavow.
I have a question about that.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Continue.
Why do you, I'm curious as to why that's fake news.
I actually, I think that the instances where a woman is being a bit not like pursuing in the same way that the man is, but she's actually like putting in effort.
Those actually tend to be the ones that, in my experience, are the strongest.
Mine as well.
Like, Not these ones where she's like playing hard to get.
Thank you, Matt.
Brickson, on behalf of the military homies, can you ask the panel why most modern women say or think a dude being in the military is a red flag?
And can they provide insight on why?
PS speak ups to Mike Davis based.
Based.
Yeah, we can go around really quick on this.
Well, I'll just ask a question.
If a guy's in the military, current active duty military, red flag or no?
Just to you.
No.
Yes.
No.
Yeah.
Guys, please, you have to be speaking into the mics.
I really don't know.
No.
Can you repeat the question?
Sorry, I missed that.
Red flag if a guy's active duty military.
No.
No.
Okay.
You two said yes, just why do you think that is?
I don't think you're wrong.
I mean, necessarily.
Well, it's because, like, I'm very, like, you know, men or women, they could be very, like, a red flag because they end up going on these deployments and stuff like that.
And usually, like, when people join the military, they're really young and they don't really know what they're going in life and types.
So let's say they've been with somebody and they go get deployed and they're there for so long.
People are going to want the other physical connection with somebody else, you know, so there's always the opportunity for them to be able to cheat on you.
Like, I don't know how to explain.
I just feel like if someone's in the military and they're not older, then yes.
But like if they're a little bit, if they're like over 25, then no.
I think I've actually heard the reverse, is that it's more often the case that the men will go off to deployment.
Maybe they're married or they have a girlfriend and the girlfriend or wife cheats on them while they're getting fucking IED and shit.
Yeah, either way, like it's either the woman cheats on him because he's gone or like he cheats on her.
Like either way, it's just not real.
What is it?
What is it called?
A dependapotamus?
Like basically they get their military wives and spouses, they get their military benefits and then they fucking divorce the guys and cheat.
That's bullshit.
Anyone here been in the military?
No.
I dated a guy in the military.
Yeah.
That counts.
You're pretty much.
You know, it's funny, like, these military wives are like, I'm basically in the military.
Because you hear everything.
Because I'm married to.
Well, that's.
Private first class.
Well, it's because then they come home and they're like, they talk about everything.
Like, my sister's in the military, so like a lot of things, like, I know and understand because of that.
Well, thank you for her service.
Wait, you're, who are you thinking?
Her sister is in the military.
You're thanking her for her service, but she's not even here?
Okay, like, I did military for two years.
Oh, you were in the military?
Yeah.
Which branch?
Air Force.
Does that really count, though?
I like to see you go to the academy.
I'm teasing you, but basic.
I think Air Force were the coolest ones, no?
That was the military.
Chair Force.
It is what it is.
It is what it is.
Okay, let's, I'm trying to remember where we were at before, but here, we have a question here from Stifler.
Ask the ladies to rate their looks on the scale of 1 to 10.
I would say for the 300.
Oh, sorry, hold on.
Oh, I'll read it.
The military is literally protecting your asses from crazy MFers in North Korean China.
And y'all think a man being in the military is a red flag?
Well, what the actual F?
Thousands of dudes did not die in Normandy Beach.
For y'all to say that.
Do you guys have a response?
No comment on that.
I don't think it's necessarily wrong for someone to not want to.
I don't know if it's a red flag, but I don't think it's wrong for someone to not want to date someone in the military in the same way that it wouldn't be wrong for someone to not want to have a long-distance relationship with somebody because deployments, you know, they might be gone.
Big men and 69 cents.
Lauren and Tony Hawke been spitting facts for the 304s on the other side of the table.
These thoughts are beyond the streets.
They're for the forest.
One plus year.
Where is based chase?
We need him back.
Your response.
No.
No response?
I have a question.
He's saying, 1.4-year relationship, no photos of your boyfriend on Instagram, public profile, posting stuff.
I don't know why that's such a big deal if me and my boyfriend don't care.
I think that the thing is that Instagram is to some degree a dating app and women are primarily the ones getting attention on Instagram.
So you're basically by hot take of the night, you're basically keeping your options open by having an Instagram if you're in a long-term relationship.
If you're not.
Especially if you're not posting your boyfriend, bare minimum.
But what if you use that for what if your social media is for work too?
Is that how you procure most of your clients?
Is through Instagram.
What do you mean?
Well, you say you're a stylist for Nordstrom.
Is that the way in which you procure most of your clients?
Well, I prefer to give them my Instagram to talk to them rather than giving them my phone number, my personal phone number.
Okay.
So that's where I direct them to first, is Instagram.
Are you monetized on Instagram?
Would you call Instagram your portfolio?
Your business portfolio.
Like your professional portfolio.
Not really, because I have like other, I don't just do separate on Instagram.
Like, I do like Instagram posts on like social media.
I'll give them content and stuff like that.
And then I have like other things that go with that.
Gosh, is that, I guess what I just wanted to say in your defense, I feel like Instagram nowadays is used as like a business card.
You know, nowadays you don't give out a printed business card, you give an Instagram.
And especially for artists, having a big Instagram and like having the type of Instagram that you have is actually quite essential just for business.
But why exclude her boyfriend, even in business aspects?
But I don't exclude him because I still post.
It's not like I'm not posting pictures of him.
He's in every every single time I go on a date, I take a picture with him in the picture.
I think what people are saying is like they'll go to your Instagram page and then they'll see all of these beautiful, you look beautiful and all of those pictures.
And then you're going to appear single, so it seems like if you're not doing it for the money, what are you possibly doing it for?
Why are you having all of these beautiful pictures of you and none of your boyfriend like readily available?
I just don't think it's that serious if you're not entertaining it so but what's the purpose I guess I can't post pictures of myself.
It can't be for someone's self-like if you see yourself in a different light.
Maybe you're just trying.
Like you could really love yourself and just want to post you and people like that.
Like, people fall in love with people on the internet.
You know?
Black Socrates donated $99.
That's major copium.
You don't post pictures of your boyfriend because you know it'll make men more likely to slide into your DMs, which in turn will make it more likely for you to rope them into business.
Posting someone on a 24-hour story doesn't count.
Bro, I would literally post a picture of my boyfriend right now, but like there's do it.
Do it.
If your boyfriend bought OnlyFans content every week from the same creator, would you consider that cheating?
Yeah, but my wife would never do that.
My wife would never spend money on.
What I'm saying, like, if somebody, you know, has like an online relationship with another creator, does that at some point become, you know?
Yeah, that's weird.
It's a little bit weird.
Yeah, that's weird, but I don't do that.
I don't.
I don't have relationships with these people that are DMing me.
I don't even reply to them.
Oh, you know, okay.
The most I'll do is tap, double tap the picture, like the picture.
I mean, like the response.
What do you gain from your Instagram?
Not that you can't have one.
I see you shaking your head because I don't mean it to be.
Yeah, because, I mean.
But I think it's funny also because you do social media too.
Right, because I'm not sure.
And you're single.
Right, and I gain things from it.
Like, so I'm trying to promote my YouTube content and I am trying.
So like for me, it's all 100% business.
I'm trying to make money from it.
And if I had a boyfriend, I don't, I could understand if it's 100% business and I'm making money off having like simps give money to me.
I can understand in that case why you wouldn't post your boyfriend.
But if I'm being honest with my fans and I had a boyfriend, I feel like an Instagram is really just kind of a story of your life, just like Facebook was.
And you would want to include important people in your life, your friends, your boyfriend, yada, yada.
Yeah.
And I do do that.
Okay.
Like, yeah, I do do that.
Like, everyone pretty much knows that, like, everyone important to me knows that I have a boyfriend.
When guys hit on me at work, I tell them straight up, I have a boyfriend.
And then they don't try again.
Well, sometimes they will try again, but then it's always like, period, I have a boyfriend.
I know that I'm not going to do anything else with other guys.
And he knows that as well.
And he knows that I use social media as a way to keep connections.
I don't like giving people my number.
I never give people my number.
So what other better way to do it is from Instagram.
Here, we're going to pull up something that's kind of related to this, then we're going to get into the super chats.
Eric, can you pull up the Twitter page?
Oh, you're going to have to control mouse wheel up.
Okay.
Yeah, that's good.
So women run passive game.
They don't approach men, but they put themselves in positions where they could be approached by men.
They won't DM a man, but they'll post pictures to lure him into DMing them.
Mainstream media doesn't want you to know this.
Scroll down, Eric.
Men are salesmen, women are marketers, but most guys are too naive and lack the capacity for nuanced thinking to be able to identify this distinction.
In a committed relationship, a man should stop pitching and a woman should stop advertising.
Fair proposition.
But most men are fooled into believing that just because their woman isn't also initiating conversations with other men, then everything is good.
She was never initiating conversations.
That's now not how she operates.
We'd utilize different strategies to get similar outcomes.
You stopped talking to women and gave up your edge as a man, but she never stopped putting herself out there.
That's why she already had a replacement for you after the breakup because she never stopped marketing.
She was generating leads the whole time.
A lion and a rhino are about to fight, and the lion tells the rhino, take off your horn so that we can have a fair fight since I don't have a horn.
The rhino foolishly agrees.
Fight begins, and he gets torn to shreds by the lion because the lion used his teeth and claws.
You're the foolish lion, or excuse me, you're the foolish rhino.
Women are the lion.
A lion and a rhino are not the same, so they can't play by the same rules.
If the rhino takes off his horn, then the lion will need to remove its teeth and claws.
You both have to give up your edge to even the playing field.
In regards to the situation with my ex, I know you may be thinking, so what if she was at the gross?
I think this is related to something else.
Okay, grocery store that's totally different from her intentionally walking into the lines down the club.
This is a little different, but and to and just to further clarify what I told my ex, it was a euphemism, which basically was me saying that we'll both be single because if she's putting herself out there, in turn, I'll start talking to other girls, which means we're no longer in a committed relationship.
Scroll down, that might be the re the end of it.
Yeah, so those first few tweets are kind of the crux of it: is that because you as women are getting initiated upon at the bar, at the club, on Instagram, you're keeping your options open, whereas men don't really be getting DMs like that, and you're not even posting your boyfriend.
So, and maybe your boyfriend's fine with that, but you're generating leads while he's probably cut off all his options.
Well, his job, I wouldn't say, is like because I would say he has the same kind of job where he has to keep his, he has to keep his Instagram the same way because he's always talking to other people too.
He has all his connections to other people as well.
So, he uses Instagram as a way to connect with people the same way that I do.
Okay, sure, sure, fair enough.
I mean, maybe I should have asked this question before I gave that from that tweet.
But would you think it's a red flag or an issue if a guy you were dating who wanted to be monogamous with you said, I'm fine, I'm prepared to commit to you, but I don't want you going to the club anymore.
I don't want you going to bars, and I let's say he wants you to private your Instagram.
Agree or disagree?
That's fine.
Hold on, let's go around the table.
Go ahead.
When I'm in a relationship, I fully dedicate and devote myself.
So, if he thinks that that's the best decision for me, then I will listen to him.
Wow, okay, not bad.
What about you?
You can be honest.
I think it really just like depends.
Like, if I want to have a girl's night and actually, like, at least like keep them updated, like, what I'm doing, like, what time I'm coming back and like be like honest and truthful.
I think there's no problem with that.
But they, like, ask you to do something that's a little more like, you know, I agree with the fact that like the woman is a lion and the man is what?
What was it?
A rhino.
Don't worry about the rhino.
But, but you know what I mean?
Like, like, that's part of like why a man would want you to go private on your Instagram and stuff like that, though.
So, you're not advertising yourself, like, in a way.
Okay.
But, I don't, about like, doing that, it's different.
What about, like, okay, let's talk about clubs, though.
Clubs, bars, parties.
Yeah.
You want to be monogamous with your commitment from your boyfriend?
He says, Cool, I don't want you going to bars and clubs anymore.
Are you going along with that?
You're saying you're not going to control me.
I'm going to do what I want to do.
No, like, I'll let you know what I'm doing and where I'm at, but I'm not going to just because you don't want me to go out.
No.
Here, we'll go around.
Let's get everyone to answer.
So, you would still go out?
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
I would definitely still go out.
I don't think that has anything to do with, like, if we're going to start dating, I think trust is a big thing.
And if you're saying that, it's probably because you can't trust somebody.
Okay, I'll respond to that.
I want everyone to answer first, though.
Go ahead.
I think if I've gotten to that point where I really like mess with a guy.
LeBron James, he's like, Look, I want to be monogamous with you, but I wouldn't use it.
He's too old for you.
I would do like.
Not even anybody married, I'm cool on it.
Yeah, Drake.
Drake, what?
No, yeah, it's not a fair scenario.
Let's just say, like, some dude who's prepared to commit to you, and he says, look, I don't want you going to the bars and clubs anymore.
Yeah, I mean, do you accept that or do you think that's like a moment?
At that point, I'm kicking it with him every day.
I like him.
We're texting.
And, like, I'm dating him.
Okay, like, that's fine.
Sure.
Would you want to go to the club together?
Like, if I want to go that bad, I'll ask him.
Yeah.
But I'm not going to die if I don't go out.
Like.
Sure.
What about you?
Yeah, I would do it.
I don't care.
Whatever he wants.
Well, with your current relationship, do you go out to bars, clubs, with him, by yourself, girls?
I can go by myself and I go with him.
He doesn't mind?
No.
A lot of guys are cool with it.
He also, he'll just pick me up.
So he doesn't have a problem with that either.
Oh, it stings and hurts.
Okay.
What about you?
I barely exist on Instagram.
So if my boyfriend was to prohibit me from using it, I would definitely raise how.
You'd raise hell?
Well, no, no, no.
I would raise how controlling is he if when a girl barely uses her Instagram posts once a year, if he would want her to shut that down, like I think it would be a controlling sign.
Sure.
However, I don't even like clubs, so that's totally down with that one.
Sure.
What about you?
I'm the same.
I don't like clubs.
And to the bars, I can go with him.
The only thing is that I think that sometimes people need their own space.
So girls need to go out with their friends at the same time guys need to go out with their friends.
But here comes butt.
They can go out to the restaurants, for example, and not to the clubs.
So yeah, as for Instagram, I don't care.
I can make it private.
And we chill most of the time in my apartment, so I don't know what she's talking about.
What about you?
My Instagram's only public today, so that I could be here.
What about bars and clubs?
I hate bars and clubs.
The only time I ever go to the bars and clubs is because I'm like, maybe I'll meet a cute guy.
Oh, then I go home.
No, no, I'm not.
I'm going to meet Trash.
Thank you, man.
I appreciate it.
Men don't get mad you are going out because they are insecure.
They get upset because they aren't there to protect you in case something happens.
It's because they love and care for you.
Because men know some men ST8 dirtbags.
Yeah, that's definitely 100% another component.
Bads underscore EXE.
Thank you, man.
I really appreciate it.
Go ahead.
I'd like to ask a question about going to clubs.
Why are there women who say they go to clubs only to dance and not be approached by men?
Can we say it one more time?
Why are there women who say they go to clubs only to dance and not be approached by men?
I think that being approached by men is just that's being a part of it.
You're going outside.
Like, it's not just, oh, I'm going to go dance.
Like, hopefully I get hit on.
If I'm going outside, period, I'm probably going to get hit on.
If I go to the gas station, I get hit on.
Like, it's not necessarily like, I'm going to go dance and get hit on.
Any other responses?
Well, I agree.
Women, I feel like the thread that you were showing earlier, women get hit on anywhere.
You don't have to be on Instagram.
You don't have to be anywhere.
Well, there's a difference.
Oh, for sure, for sure.
What I'm wondering is if women don't like being approached, why not just go to gay clubs?
Oh, we do.
But there are actually straight men pretending to be gay in those clubs.
Fast.
Okay, but I mean, I'm just saying, like, wouldn't that put your boyfriend's mind at ease?
Like, if you have to go out and have a girl's night, then at least he doesn't have to worry.
It would be like, you know, if your boyfriend said, I'm going to go out to the strip club with all my guy friends, you know, you might have a problem with that.
I mean, let's not sugarcoat it.
Women go to clubs and bars to get attention from men.
I do know women.
Some, very few.
I know some married women who go to gay clubs to do justice.
Well, I'm not talking about gay clubs anymore.
Okay, in that scenario, then.
Or even just following up on this point, why are there women-only gyms and various safe spaces, but no women-only nightclubs?
Would that even make sense?
It would be cool to see.
Should we start one?
That's a good idea.
Yes.
I mean, isn't that the environment women complain about the most?
There are some women-only clubs.
But I mean, how would it make money?
Who's women getting to the club for free?
Who's spending the money?
The women who spend money at the bar.
Unless it's a lesbian club, I don't see the logic.
I'm not everybody paying for drinks.
Obviously, I know I'm at the pay.
Right.
So I'm a money.
So can we conclude that women go to clubs because they get attention from men?
What do you mean?
Can we conclude that's the purpose of women going to clubs is to get attention from men?
I don't think it's the sole purpose.
But then can you understand why a man might have a problem with his girlfriend going out and taking a girl's nap?
Of course, yeah.
I understand.
Okay.
It definitely feeds into it, though.
Sure, sure.
Do you guys think it's controlling if a guy didn't want his girlfriend going to a bar or club?
No.
Is it controlling?
If she wants to do it every single day, then no, I don't think it's controlling because he's just trying to moderate her.
But if she goes once in two months, then it could be controlling.
Rather than once in a year.
Sorry.
Is jealousy a turn-on or a turn-off for you?
In other words, what is the difference between protecting your woman and being possessive?
Is that a personal question?
Yeah.
Or just, you know, anyone who has an answer.
I think possessive is more like, or like controlling is more like, you can't do this, you can't do that.
And then possessive is like, what are you doing?
Who's going to be there?
What time are you going to be back?
Like, you know, asking questions about what you're doing rather than telling you you can't do that.
But I mean, is there good jealousy?
Is there jealousy that kind of is a turn-on?
Well, I would say, yeah, because when my boyfriend asked me, like, oh, what are you doing?
Like, where are you at?
Like, who's there?
Who are you with?
Like, I like that because it's, like, you're wondering, like, you know, you're thinking about what I'm doing, but then it's, like, he's not going to – but I would not like if he told me, no, you can't do that.
You can't.
You can't do this.
You can't do that.
But I would still just comply because that's my boyfriend.
I would tell him I don't like it.
But then I would just have to comply because that's my boyfriend.
Well, that's part of it.
Wait, question for you.
So your current boyfriend, you've been dating him for a year and four months.
If he just shifts all of a sudden after watching the show because he's like, oh, that's not a bad idea.
He's like, listen, Gertrude.
Kelly, right?
Yeah.
It's Kelly, right?
Okay.
Gertrude's your middle name.
Sometimes you go by Gertrude, right?
No.
Agatha?
No.
Okay, never mind.
He's like, look, I don't want you going to the club anymore.
And I want your Instagram to be private.
Yes or no?
Yeah.
Okay.
Wait, but so going back to my question, does anyone here think, and it's okay if you do, do you think it's controlling or insecure if a guy doesn't want his girlfriend going to the club?
Controlling or insecure?
It's okay to disagree.
I think it just really depends on what the reasoning is of it.
The reason.
They could do it for themselves or they could do it out of like, they're saying they just want you safe and they don't want you to go out because that can put you into a situation.
I mean, I think the primary thing is they basically don't want you getting hit on and flirted with and approached by other men, primarily.
I mean, there's some, I think a safety component is part of that, but I'd say the primary reason is you're kind of keeping your options open, like going to these environments.
Oh, my God.
Good to see you, man.
It's been a while.
John from It's Complicated, I wish I could shake that man's hand and buy him a beer.
Excellent questions, content, but minus the cigar-smoking lesbian and few others.
The bobbleheads are the same across the board.
Cheers to you and Brian.
Hey, Zentians, thank you, man.
Do you have anything to say?
Thank you.
He's a longtime supporter of the show.
Thank you, Zentians.
Good to see you back, man.
Thank you for stopping by the stream.
Okay, let's move on from this.
Let's do some super chats here.
We never did the number.
Oh, the rating one, yeah.
All right, we have Stiffler here.
Ask the ladies to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
You were about to answer this.
Go ahead.
I would say maybe a four or five.
Stop the cap.
Okay, come on.
Come on.
No, that is.
I have a lot of, I guess, past trauma due to my appearance, so.
Well, he's asking, rate their looks.
Right, my looks, yes.
Your self-assessment, okay.
Well, I think you're underselling yourself a little bit, but what do you think it would take to make you a 10?
Like, what would you want to improve about yourself or your looks?
Just at a few minutes.
There's a lot of things I dislike about myself, so I mean, I'm not sure, but if I were to be able to change things, I would mainly change maybe my face.
That's all.
You're so pretty.
Yeah, I think it's beautiful.
Thank you.
Okay.
But you mentioned, I mean, I don't know if you want to get into it.
But you mentioned past trauma.
How is that related to your physical appearance?
Well, growing up, I had a sister, and she was the one more complimented than I was when we would go out.
By your parents?
Yeah, by myself.
And just other people in general.
All together.
And on top of that, growing up, I did get bullied for a little while.
I did look a lot different when I was younger, but to me, I still see that little girl that I was and who people bullied.
Have you had any plastic surgery?
No, but I have had something done with my chin because it was uneven and I fixed it.
Okay, gotcha.
Okay.
Got it.
What about you?
What do you rate yourself looks-wise, one to ten?
Probably like a five or like a six on like a good day, you know?
Okay.
Gotta stay humble.
Sure.
Eight.
I would give myself a nine.
Eight.
Could I withhold myself from answering?
Unless you want to make a discussion, which I would love to.
Unless I want what?
If you want to make it a discussion, then...
We can discuss.
Okay.
Let's discuss.
Okay, why do you object to answering the question first?
I just think it so heavily depends.
Like if you were to ask, let's say, what do I think men in California would on average rate me, let's say, you know, that would be different from myself.
Like your rating in Smolensk?
Or over like a lot of different places for sure.
Yeah.
Okay.
Like Siberia?
What's your rating in Siberia?
I would probably be on a higher upscale in Siberia than in LA.
Than in LA?
Okay.
What's your rating from 100 years ago?
You know what I mean?
It's like different time periods.
The beauty standards have changed.
The Renaissance, there's the Renaissance.
Okay, but it's not just about the time I can hop on the plane and be in the country where my status all of a sudden like drastically changes based on the way that I look.
Right now, like two more I could be in another country.
But what would you rate yourself?
Right, but that's why I have the problem with this question.
You know, like it's a very general question.
But since you're asking on the look, like, yeah, it just so depends.
Would be a two one day, and then the next day I could be a nine.
How about we drop you?
We're not gonna put you in LA, we're gonna drop you in like Columbus, Ohio.
Is that where you are?
Yeah, okay.
I would say probably an eight, eight.
Are you a nine in Columbus, Ohio?
I'm a ten over there.
Oh, ten in Ohio.
Okay, I see, I see.
What's up?
I'm probably gonna be like an eight or a nine in Ohio.
In Columbus, Ohio.
Yeah.
Okay, what about like Idaho?
I don't know too much about Idaho, so I would not know.
West Virginia?
Would not know?
It's a sliding scale.
Louisiana?
What's it in Louisiana?
No, even less than that.
Nantucket.
What about Nantucket?
Dude.
Okay, let's try Canada.
What about Quebec?
Quebecois.
Again, also slightly a little higher than, let's say, in the layer.
Okay.
All right, fair enough.
Moving on, what about you?
What do you rate yourself on a scale of one to ten?
Well, for me, it depends on mood because sometimes I also feel different, but I would say it's going to be like seven, sometimes eight.
But for me, it's also important how I don't just feel like when I look at myself, but also what I feel inside because it's very connected.
Sure.
So, yeah.
Lauren de Laguna.
Idaho 3, LA 7.
How does it work?
So you're more attractive in LA versus 100.
Are you saying Idahoians are, I don't know if that's the right word?
What if you can't use it?
Are you saying Idahoans are unattractive and that Los Angeles Hollyweird freaks are attractive?
No, but there's definitely more models and very attractive people in California than I'm sure Idaho simply because there's more people in California.
So there's probably going to be more attractive people in California.
And more homeless people.
True, true, true.
I'm not going to be able to do that.
You're saying you're hitting up those homeless women.
Are you comparing yourself to homeless women?
I'm 7 and then alcohol in the world.
Fair enough, fair enough.
What about you said you're moving to Florida, so are you going to Miami?
Miami's going to be tough.
I'm looking at all parts of Florida, not really Miami, though.
Kind of.
Fort Lauderdale?
Yes, yeah.
And Treasure Coast.
Treasure Coast or Cove.
I don't know.
Jepson Beach.
Jemson Beach.
Jensen Beach.
I feel like this question really isn't all that hard, but okay, you guys want to make it about geography.
What about like your rating in fucking.
It's more of a joke, but.
I'm trying to think of a like small European country.
Luxembourg's pretty small.
What's the one that's like super small?
Is it Luxembourg?
Croatia.
No, there's like a really small one.
Lichtenstein.
The Vatican.
Lichtenstein.
The Vatican?
Technically.
In Liechtenstein, girls are blonde and pretty tall because it's basically a German-speaking country and they all come from mountains, I would say.
So it's definitely not the country for you, Brian, to look for a girl.
Because they're too tall.
Yeah.
Well, I heard the tallest people are in the Netherlands.
In Scandinavia.
The Netherlands is like the tallest people.
Which is unfortunate because I really like Amsterdam.
Okay, moving on from that.
Thank you guys for the lovely ratings.
We have Ross Kahn here.
Hi, whatever.
Hello, Lauren.
Another panelist in chat.
Hey, what's up, Ross Kahn?
He's got a mullet?
Ross Kahn, she.
That's a she?
That is a she.
Yeah, there's some awesome videos.
She is a content creator as well.
She is named Ross.
Ross Kahn, yeah.
Is Ross a common female name?
No.
I just know my, I just know my face.
I see my people.
Okay.
Well, I apologize for misgendering you, Ross Kahn.
I sure is.
You have a lovely mullet.
Okay, thank you.
Oh my Romy.
Oh, this is shit.
I wish we got to this sooner.
Sorry, we're getting to this like two hours later.
Romy Clitwaite, do you know this girl?
No.
Why did you?
I saw the comment earlier on the hue.
They wanted me to shift gears in the car.
Were you shifting or?
No, because I saw it too late.
Shoot.
Hey, I believe this is Roma Army.
Sorry that we're finally getting to this now.
Now, simulate shifting gears manually.
Thank you for the big 300 Canadian dollars.
Thank you so much for your support.
Thank you for your big super chat last show too.
Really appreciate it.
I don't know if you're still in the stream.
I know you sent this like two hours ago.
We're finally getting to the super chat.
Sorry for the delay, guys.
We're going to try to, I'm pretty sure this is Roma Army, Chloe.
So we're going to try to get her on the show eventually.
Thank you so much.
Appreciate it.
Do you want to show us the little shift?
You can see it.
Do you drive a stick?
No, but I know you like, there's a switch pedal, isn't there?
Yeah, demonstrate.
Wait, can you make the noises too?
You were about to make the noise.
Like the driving noise?
I was just going to go.
Switch, switch.
Yeah, that's good.
Wait, can we hear it?
Like what I just did.
Into the mic then?
Okay, sorry.
I'm being cringe.
I'm being cringe.
You can do it if you want that.
Brian, what number are you?
What do I rate myself as?
Yeah.
Like 6, 6.9 on a good day.
Okay, do you feel like a lot of the times, not this panel, no one call themselves a 10, but I do feel like a lot of the times this show will bring in like kind of sevens or above, and then they call themselves 10s, and we scoff at that.
Sevens and above?
You sure about that one?
Most of the time.
I don't know.
Sometimes they'd be lower than sevens, claiming 10.
But go ahead with your point.
Go ahead.
I just, like, and we scoff and make fun of that.
So just like, what makes you a six?
Like, what makes you the level of a six?
Like, me personally, like, my own self-assessment of my.
Are you wanting me to articulate?
Yeah, like, what makes you better than over 50% of men that are available and some.
You're six.
You're not just five.
Well, I mean, and I could certainly be wrong.
I think that's just my own self-assessment.
I think I'm, and I'm not saying it to be cocky.
I don't think I'm a 10, but if five is the average, I think I'm perhaps maybe slightly above average.
Do you go to the gym?
Do I go to the gym?
I've been eating kind of shit, so I need to lose like 10 pounds.
I got a little belly here, you know, so I'm rocking a bit of a dad bomb.
How does the beard factor into that number?
The beard?
Yeah, the beard.
Got it.
Into the number.
You know what?
Isn't there some YouTuber who like does face ratings, wheat waffles?
Oh, didn't you do something with wheat?
Wait, I'm trying to think.
I didn't, but I've seen what you're talking about.
You know who I'm talking about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He does like the face breakdown, like symmetry.
The epicanthal folds and shit.
What does he fucking talk about?
He talks about, like, he's a good guy, but I'm trying to think what he talks about.
I think it was like facial symmetry or bone structure or something like that.
Oh, okay.
So I still, my hair isn't totally gone yet, so I guess that's good, at least for my age, I reckon.
Blue eyes, got the baby blues, got the long eyelashes, you know what I'm saying?
And yeah.
I don't think I'm exceptionally good looking, but I think I'm decent.
I'm okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
I just.
Big nose probably, I got a big nose, so that probably takes off, I don't know, a point or two.
And then I'm pale, super pale.
And I've got my hands kind of shaped because I haven't eaten anything today.
And I didn't eat much today.
And I have dainty hands.
I think if I had big, muscular man hands that were thick and fat, that'd be like an extra 0.5.
But I got these gamer hands, you know, fucking my micro.
What's that?
You know how you get muscles, though.
Sex?
The gym.
Huh?
The gym.
That's how you get them.
Yeah, but like some people just genetically.
For example, my dad, he's a software engineer.
He doesn't exercise.
He doesn't lift.
He's got fucking man hands, like big, fat, meaty, strong man hands.
And I got these dainty, what?
Okay.
I got these dainty gamer hands for like playing the piano and shit.
Like I could bust out some Chopin, but I'm about to do nine hours of physical labor in the fields.
Okay, so my point being is a lot of this show is scoffing at women who think that they are prettier than they are.
And then I rarely see us turn it around on the men.
And, like, I'm sure you're a nice guy and you have a great show, but I wouldn't say, like...
Can I give you the guy's version of that?
Sure.
The delusional women thinking they're a 10, the man version of that is men who declare themselves an alpha male.
I think that that is comparable.
They were asking about looks, though.
Well, I think Lauren was about to say that I'm actually not a six, but go ahead, Lauren.
No, you got it.
You got the point.
Well, go ahead.
Say for yourself.
I finished my thought.
Well, you didn't because John came in, but go ahead.
Thanks, John.
You saved me.
Save five, John.
Go ahead.
I finished my.
Okay, my point being, I don't know if I would, yes, I don't know if I'd qualify you as a six, and I do feel like why would you scoff at women who are incorrect about their beauty?
Like, I don't understand.
What do you rate me just out of curiosity?
Oh, gosh.
If I'm not a six, what do you, what do you?
I mean, we could also ask the chat too.
Chat, do you guys want to rate me?
Go ahead.
Yeah, so let's select the chat.
Do you want me to rate you?
Yeah, what do you rate me?
I think, okay, first of all, I think you're very kind, but we have to go based off just looks.
Just looks.
Like, a four, three or four.
Three or four.
And what do you rate yourself?
I said a three.
You're a three?
I don't think you're a three.
I'm a three in Ohio, and I said a seven LA.
Okay, just forget the fucking bullshit geographic.
Geographic bullshit.
What do you rate yourself on a scale of one?
Like a five or six.
Okay.
You know what's funny is actually I would say, you know, there's, I don't know if any of you have seen this on TikTok.
There's this app that like makes you like the male version of you.
And it's something like, if you wouldn't date, like, and often you see girls doing this, if you wouldn't date the male version of you, your standards are too high.
Yes, but that app, the face changing, is literally, it's not even altering your features to make you look like a man.
It's like a stencil app where it's just like applying another man's face over your face.
So that app doesn't even actually turn you into the male version of yourself.
It just turns you into some random guy.
Because have you ever tried like the male filter on yourself?
Because I know the female filter on myself doesn't make me just look like a more feminine woman.
It makes me look like a different woman.
You know what I mean?
It's not just massive.
Let's ask the chat, who's more attractive?
Me or what's Lauren?
Who's more physically attractive?
Or are we looks equivalents?
Because I was going to say, just looking at you, I actually think there are some similar, to some degree, I mean.
Are you Irish?
Are you Irish?
No, but I would say we're to some degree, I would consider us.
Brother or sister.
No, I would say we're kind of to some degree comparable looks-wise, I think.
Okay, interesting.
But you think you're more attractive than me?
That's totally fine.
Fair enough.
I'm not for everybody.
I think you're not.
Sitting next to me, everyone looks better.
Yeah, chat.
Are we on.
No, you're Tony Hawk.
No, I'm Tony Hawk.
Tony Hawk, what would you rate Tony Hawk?
Tony Hawk, he was like a child.
I loved watching the skateboarding growing up.
I was really into him.
And then I also had the Tony Hawk video game thing that was on my PS.
So I just, I love Tony Hawk.
Huge.
There's a reason I don't show my face on camera.
No, I'm sorry.
I haven't been reading the chat, but what's the chat then?
Yeah, you're a beautiful man.
Looks good.
brains but okay so your your original question is and and so you're Do we even get into that?
Or do we just get to the point?
Well, we can't get over him.
Like, do men not matter.
Well, the original question was ask the ladies to rate themselves on the looks of 10.
But if you want to try to deflect from where I'm about to go with this conversation, we can pass it to John really quick.
What do you rate yourself on a scale of ones to 10?
Well, I mean, if you want to delay my rebuttal, but go ahead.
I mean, what is Tony Hawk?
I mean, currently, he's my doppelganger, so I mean, you know.
Do you have a skateboard on you?
You know what?
I don't have a skateboard on me.
But I would say, you know, above average, I would think.
I mean, six, seven, something like that, possibly.
But, you know, I mean, I don't show my face on camera for a reason, you know.
Okay, so you're, I think the difference is though, and I guess your qualm is, is because you think I've rated myself higher than how you view me, and perhaps you're right.
Perhaps I'm not a six.
Hold on.
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False equivalence there, lawyer.
We don't scoff at women who merely...
This is what I was...
I'm not sure if I can do it.
We scoff at women who default to saying they're 9 or 10 purely based on this self-generated notion they have that they're inherently high value.
Sure.
So, I mean, let's give, by the way, Black Socrates, thank you for the donation.
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So I think there's a difference between someone being within the margin of error of a rating, so either plus or minus a point.
So perhaps I'm a five, right?
My self-assessment is a six.
I think that's within the margin of error.
Now we're getting kind of, hold on, we're getting fucking a little nerdy with this shit.
Hold on.
With the fucking maths and shit.
But the difference is when a girl who's like a six or a seven, she thinks she's a 10.
Because if a girl says she's a six and I think she's a five, I'm not like, I'm not calling that out.
But if a girl who's a six says she's a 10, who says she's on par with the most beautiful women in the world, that's where I'm like, you're delusional.
So I think there's a difference there.
I think it's the degree, you know, if you're within, again, the margin of error, that's one thing.
But if you're, we have below average women come on the podcast saying, I'm a 10.
I'm on par with the most beautiful women in the world.
I'm on par with lingerie models, runway models, magazine models, the most beautiful women in the world.
That to me is delusional.
That's where we scoff.
I don't scoff at a girl who's a five who says she's a six.
Go ahead.
Sorry, hold on.
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It's the scoff because a lot of women that come on have a self-inflated ego because of makeup, angles, lighting, and filters that Thirsty Simpson, the DMs gas up, when in reality they are very middle lower.
If I said I was a 10, that's like, bro.
That's like me saying I'm on par with Brad Pitt when he was in his mid-20s.
And he's also been a fucking babe, and like, he's still a fucking babe, but.
Tens get modeling contracts.
If you're a 10, why would you even wear makeup?
I mean, I've done this interview on the street before, and many women have said they're 10s.
And I guess they conflate it with confidence.
If I am super confident, then that makes me a 10.
But then there's also a beauty standard.
There's obviously, you know, just because I think I'm a billionaire, does that mean that my, you know, my bank account reflects that?
You know what I mean?
There's certain just things that have to back up what you're saying.
Did you want to respond?
Oh, go ahead.
No, I just wanted to say, like, maybe for someone who really in love with her, she's a full 10, you know, and for him, she's 10 and she's better than all others because he's in love with her.
That's beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but that still doesn't disprove the fact that we do have certain opportunities that come along with certain levels of beauty.
all right he's in the chat boys for brian okay um let's move on from the did you want to respond lauren No, I mean, that really does make a lot of sense.
Like, I get where you're coming from with the saying, okay, I'm a nine or ten and I'm in that difference.
However, I do think that we could experience some nuance and recognize that we, at least you on this podcast, do avoid asking the men that question and then also, you know, what I already said.
Also, what?
Oh, did you want to come in?
Oh, no, no, yeah.
Did you finish?
Yeah, hold on.
I just wanted to point out, I think you're talking about almost like self-awareness.
Because, like, if a woman, let's say she thinks she's a 10, she's actually a 7, but it doesn't even matter what, you know, just like she thinks not the reality.
And then don't you think that the world, the reality, will kind of slap her in her place at some point?
Like, she will realize that she is not as old as she thinks she is.
And if she doesn't realize that, that's not so much like inflated ego, but at least I would view it more as not having self-reflection.
I mean, I definitely think, I think it's perhaps harder for women to have the self-awareness of their own physical attractiveness for a couple reasons.
One, if you look at, and some people really aren't active on social media, but for example, if you look at a lot of girls' Instagram profiles, their friends are in the comments gassing them up.
Even like, let's be honest, even average, below-average women, their friends are saying, you're fucking slay queen, you're a babe, you're a hot, 10 out of 10, you're perfect, blah, blah, blah.
So their own female friends, their own peers are gassing them up.
Guys really don't do that to their male friends on social media or in.
I mean, some guys do, but like guys really aren't gassing them each other up in that same way.
Guys typically are gonna like call out their friends more so.
Like men and women kind of interact differently.
Like men will bond by basically fucking roasting each other to death, whereas whereas uh, and then saying really nice things about them behind, like behind their backs.
And then I think it's almost the reverse with women.
Women will say really nice things to a girl to her face and then talk mad shit about her behind her back.
Not Not all women here, but I have a question about this.
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Not to sound like a simp, but the girl on the end with low self-esteem, please don't change a thing.
You are the prettiest girl on the panel.
And quick question: are you of Korean decent?
Beautiful either way.
Are you of Korean decent?
Decent.
Are you Korean decent?
No.
Or indecent.
I'm not of Korean descent.
I am Latina, Dominican, and Cuban.
Okay.
Just picking up on your point from before, do you think it's true that men will insult each other and not mean it, while women will compliment each other and not mean it?
Oh, I believe a bunch of delusion is fed to women, yes.
And I believe that women come across as like they'll compliment a woman to try to be their friend, even if they don't mean that compliment.
Do we still have Kelly's Instagram pulled up?
Can we just pull it up really quick?
But okay, but like and I'll come back to your point.
I will respond.
Okay, that key.
Let's pull go down, go down.
Here, do the most recent one.
Maybe I guess the pinned one.
Let's see.
Baby, stunning.
How's this even possible?
Yes, queen, hot.
You're such a hottie.
Body, fire, emoji, heart.
Sure, she is hot.
Granted, Kelly, you are very attractive.
Yeah, go find an ugly girl and then try to show me that chat.
Like, this isn't a fair.
She's hot.
That should be the comment.
Sure, sure.
Granted, yes.
Kelly's very attractive.
However, however, however, like, I've seen that same exact comment section.
You can copy and paste it to an average girl.
Okay, that girl that usually sits where Giselle is sitting.
Yo, pull up.
Who's that?
That Kiko girl.
Pull up Lizzo's.
Pull up Lizzo's Instagram.
Let's see.
Okay, but Kiko, who's not here, she usually sits there.
She's very pretty.
What about her?
And she calls herself a 10.
And I just feel like it sucks because everyone's like, oh, and it's like, she's pretty.
Sorry.
Did you guys see the spit this fucking good times?
Don't touch it.
Oh, don't.
Don't you don't touch it.
I'll clean it.
Okay, anyway, but everyone's just like scoffing and like spitting all over the microphone and everything.
And like, oh my god, she's not, she's not a 10.
And it's like, she's not, though.
Okay, but she's like an eight or a nine.
Why are we losing?
Go ahead, John.
I have an appropriate question for this, I think.
Okay.
Is the pressure greater on men to be successful or on women to be beautiful?
One time.
One more time.
Is the pressure greater on men to be successful or on women to be beautiful?
I think there's more pressure on men only because for women, that's more of a choice if we like want to try to be beautiful.
Whereas in men, he kind of like has to be successful to get anywhere in life.
So the average man's salary in the U.S. is 40.
Oh, wait.
Sorry, hold on.
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Not really.
Do I say thank you?
I don't know if that's a compliment or not.
I don't know.
Thank you, I guess.
Question mark?
Okay.
So I was going to continue here.
The average man's salary in the U.S. is $40,000.
The average woman in the U.S. weighs 170 pounds.
Why is there a fat acceptance movement for women, but there's no broke acceptance movement for men?
I don't believe that maybe the whole body positivity thing.
I believe that we should be taking care of ourselves as best as we can.
So I'm not sure why that happens, but I don't agree with it.
But do you think that plays a role in over-inflating a woman's self-awareness or perception?
Delusion?
Yes.
Delusion, yes.
I do believe that it plays into why a lot of women are delusional.
So then do you make an argument potentially that fat people don't know they're fat?
Or like what delusion part?
Like what just not fat?
I think being fat is a bit different than just going off of like, I think fat people know that they are fat, but they don't do anything about it.
And women and men, they're a bit different, right?
I'm sure men get a lot of pressure to work out and everything like that.
Whereas women don't get as much pressure.
Like I guess society puts that pressure on them, but there is a lot of like, oh, it's my body.
Like I should be happy because it's my body.
Instead of forcing them to like more so actually take care of themselves.
Like they're told that they're stunning, beautiful, and right without working out.
Whereas a guy will mainly only get compliments if he does work out.
That's a double standard.
Yeah, yeah, it is.
There are a lot of double standards out there.
Yes.
For sure.
There is.
Really quick on the rating thing, just to kind of address your point.
So can you just quickly paraphrase what your original question was in terms of self-awareness when it comes to rating?
Well, yeah, so I guess my hypothesis is that an average person, if they're not like what they think they are, reality will come in and let you know at a certain point, like slap you in the face.
And if you are unable to see that reality, if you're unable to see those slaps, then you're just not self-aware.
And if you are able to see them, then you eventually start wondering, okay, maybe it is me.
And then, you know, you'll.
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So it just seems to me that women that think that they are a 10 and will keep struggling in life because they will never, you know, understand the reality, are not self-aware women rather than, like...
Yeah, I understand.
I think I understand your question.
I mean, my response to that is, I mean, women are certainly capable of self-awareness.
I think, however, where women get into trouble and where a lot of them don't receive the so-called slap in the face is that women can sleep with men that are more attractive than them, who are higher status than them, who either, so who are basically hypergamy, so who either socioeconomically are higher.
So that could be status, it could be money, or it could also be looks.
And here's why, because men welcome the easy access.
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Women welcome the easy access, sorry, getting, am I having a stroke?
Men welcome.
Yeah, got it.
I got tongue twisted.
Men welcome the easy access to sex.
So a guy who, let's say, and look, in common, like obviously we're having an intellectual conversation here in like common conversation.
I'm not like referring to people as tens and sevens, but because we're trying to like get to the truth of things, I am trying to have like a rather, to some degree, shallow or superficial approach to this.
For conversation's sake, it's very easy to say looks wise, she's a six.
Looks wise, he's a seven, whatever it may be.
So, a girl who's a six could sleep with a dude who's a nine because he's like easy access to sex, cool, but he's never gonna give her commitment.
So, that's I think women don't really get the slap in the face because it's pretty easy for women.
And let me just finish my point while I'll have you come in, John.
Women can sleep with men that on pretty much all levels are more attractive than them, whether again, that's status, wealth, or looks, or even personality.
A lot of women want a guy who's funny, charismatic, confident, all these things, even if they don't have those same qualities.
So, basically, what you have happening is women are going to hold on.
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So, here's the difference, right?
A guy will gladly sleep with, hook up with, keep a girl around for that's this is basically what situationships are.
Casual sex, right?
With a girl who's less physically attractive than him because he welcomes the easy access to sex, he'll never commit to her.
She'll never be his boyfriend, she'll never get the ring.
Look, it happens occasionally.
Let me just finish my point.
And so, here's the difference: a guy will sleep with a woman who's not as attractive as he is, and he'll never commit to her.
But for women to sleep with a guy, he needs to be at least at, for a woman to be able to sleep with a guy, he needs to be at least good-looking enough to be considered for a relationship.
He has to be at least attractive enough that she would be in a relationship with him.
But the same is not the case for men.
Men will sleep with women of a certain physical attractiveness that they would never commit to.
They just welcome the easy access to sex.
So, women can sleep with these guys who are really high status, who are really good-looking, and they'll never get commitment.
So, they think, if I can get a guy who is a nine, thus I must too be a nine, because for me, for me to be able to do that, he has to be like on my, he has to be good-looking enough for me to commit to him.
But men and women, we don't play by the same rules.
So, like, yeah.
I actually absolutely agree with everything you've said.
Uh, the part where I would just kind of like rile back.
Uh, so the moment you even said it yourself, the man will not be dating that woman.
He will have sex with her, right?
But we also know that women prefer relationships, they don't prefer sleeping around.
Uh, now, we could, of course, go into argument that that might be different, and now we're the age.
However, what I'm trying to say is that woman that the guy had sex with, she will want to have a relationship with that guy.
He will not give her the relationship, and that's the slap that she will get.
Like, she will think to herself that, oh, I can get this guy, we must be on the same level.
But the guy potentially, when she'll be going for the relationship, he will let her know, like, dude, we can have sex, but you're not on the level.
I think some, some, perhaps a few women will make that connection, but I think there's going to be a lack of accountability, and they're going to, instead of being like, I was sleeping with a guy outside of my league, I was sleeping with a guy with way too much status compared to where I'm at in life.
They're going to say, he's a fuckboy.
They're not going to say, I'm just not that attractive.
So, I think some women might get the slap.
And you're right that women get rejected on the back end.
So, men get rejected on the front end.
Like, we go up instantly.
The girl's like, no.
Women tend to, women don't really get rejected typically on the front end, like, because women really aren't the initiators like that.
Women are the selectors, so they're going to pick.
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Somebody remember that they were like, what's going on?
I just wanted to add, though, that the lack of self-reflection is due because of the delusion that has been implemented in them.
It's going to be harder for them to reflect when that delusion has been food, you know, spoon-fed to them.
I totally 100% agree with what you're saying.
And Brian, like to your point, I see what you're saying.
And I will, like, my point to both you guys is going to be, like, yeah, self-awareness is one of the largest humanity problems nowadays.
I don't think it's just women.
I don't think it's just men.
But I do think that that is one of the key issues of a lot of dating relationships, relationships in general, is that lack of self-awareness.
Can I pick up on that self-awareness for a minute?
Okay.
Question for the ladies.
A man has two women.
Every time.
Good to see you, Mark Wavius.
Thank you.
This tiny Latina, you seem uncomfortable with compliments, which in itself is delightful.
Let's make it simple.
You're attractive, polite, demure, articulate, based.
You are the standard men should be seeking.
Brian, make a move or I'll be very disappointed.
You know what?
That ring didn't fit, but.
Here, hold on.
Yeah, try this one.
Oh, my God.
Jesus Christ.
That was a great throw.
Bro, get it together.
Hello?
Your hands are too powerful.
I was aiming for her head, these powerful hands.
You clearly played video games and not sports in high school, Brian.
It was an underhanded softball throw, okay?
Screwed it up.
No, it's still too big.
Oh, my God.
4-11 hands.
Oh, Jesus.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
You tried.
Attempted.
All right, Marquavius.
All right, we'll just leave it there for the rest of the show.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
I just wanted to finish this one question, get the ladies' input on this.
Okay, a man has two women.
He lies to one.
He tells the truth to the other.
Which one does he love?
Truth.
The one he's lying to.
Yeah.
No.
The one that he's lying to.
The one he's telling the truth to is like, has to be a side because, like, if he's lying to his main person, he's going to tell the side chick, like, what's up?
So that way she's not, like, ratting him out on the top way, if you know what I mean.
Is he protecting her or is he feeding her delusion?
Well, the one that he's lying is trying to, per se, protect her, but like, the one that he's not lying to is the one that he just doesn't want to get like feelings attached and stuff like that, you know?
Because it's more like a side piece.
I feel like a man is going to lie to a woman that he loves because he's going to want to try to keep her.
If he's cheating on her, he's not going to straight up tell her, I'm cheating on you, because she's going to leave.
So it's like, you're going to tell, but you're going to tell the truth to your side.
Men are going to tell the side bitch, you're the side bitch.
They're going to say, they're going to tell you, I have a girlfriend.
You know, you're the side bitch.
Should a woman get mad about cheating if she's already a side bitch?
No.
If she's the side bitch, if she's already a side piece, should she get mad about cheating?
No, because you chose to be the side bitch.
Once a cheater, always a cheater, is what I've always heard.
So if he cheats on his woman to be with you, why would you be surprised if he cheats on you to be with some other woman?
She shouldn't be surprised.
Oh, actually, another question I have about cheating as well.
What do you find more intimate?
Having a deep conversation or having sex?
Deep conversation.
Why is it that cheating is usually more about having sex than having a deep conversation with a stranger?
Well, I would actually disagree with this.
Because sometimes I feel like that sex is just how she was talking about that mana animals and they sometimes kind of like need it.
But when it gets to the emotional part, when they have really connection through the deep dialogue or through the things they're sharing or something like this, then it's then it's I mean, both things are cheating, don't understand me wrong.
It just hurts more.
Yeah, it's an exact thing.
Well, it's like you hear about how men and women are judged differently on cheating.
It's often said that women are more likely to forgive cheating than men because when men cheat, it's usually for sexual gratification.
Women are more likely to cheat with feelings, so men take it if it's more of a betrayal.
So I'm just saying it's like there's emotional cheating and then there's physical cheating, apparently.
So, you know, I guess emotional cheating.
That's definitely true.
Oh, yeah, emotional cheating does hurt more.
It's like, how you let somebody else, like you had a conversation with somebody else, that's a conversation that, you know, that me and you should have been having.
It's like, why would you let somebody else feel this the same way?
Like I said, I've said before, like, why would you letting you're treating someone else the same way that you're supposed to be treating me?
And it's like, when it comes down to it, if that's the side bitch, she shouldn't be getting that same treatment.
Does dick size matter?
And if so, has it affected past relationships as if they dated strictly for the size of their partner?
Yes, it matters.
It cannot be too big.
Yeah, I agree on that.
It does matter.
It can't be too big.
I didn't say that.
I think it just really depends on how a person knows how to use it.
Because if they're just no good and they don't have a good size, you know, then no.
But you can have a small penis and know what you're doing and satisfy your lady.
And you can have a big one and still know what you're doing.
It just matters about if they know what they're doing with it, you know?
The fuck did I come back to you?
It's not about the size of the bow, it's the motion of the ocean.
Why is there so much focus on the size of a man as opposed to the tightness of a woman?
Well, I think...
I don't know.
I mean, like, a woman is going to naturally go back to its regular size.
A man can't change their size, I don't think, can they?
But what if their regular size is quite cavernous as a cavernous?
What do you mean?
Like a cow.
If a woman is naturally just a gaping hole, like that's her natural pressure.
Here's a perfect segue.
Does a woman's body count affect her tightness?
I don't think so.
No.
No, no, no, because a woman will go back to, like, let's say I just hopped on Big John's last night, right?
I'm...
That's me.
And like, three days later, I'm like chilling.
It's gonna, it's literally goes back to the same size.
I mean, I don't know.
I didn't even know women could stay like a big one.
Well, you've heard of the kegel exercise, but women also can push out a baby and apparently it'll go back to the bottom.
I mean, if not like you stretched out for life just because you had sex with somebody that's bigger, like this much.
Yeah, I don't think it works that way.
The other thing I hear is some people think that if a woman has a high body count, that the labia gets bigger too.
That ain't true.
That ain't true.
That makes no biological sense.
Right.
That makes no biological sense.
A virgin could have.
Look, I don't like these terms, but they're used.
There's terms like roast roast beef, beef curdins, which I'm against.
I'm a fan of bowdies.
Just want to say women, they have.
You guys were speaking about penis size.
Women have preferences when it comes to men's genitalia.
I happen to have a preference when it comes to women's genitalia.
What?
Yeah, that's right.
I like large labia.
What's up?
Deal with it.
Okay.
If y'all can like tall dudes, I can like dwarfs.
Deal with it.
Miss NBA Dater.
I gotta bring that up.
Oh, sorry.
I didn't mean to.
I'm sorry.
By the way, I found like a ketchup packet.
How much for someone to down this ketchup packet for a soup chat?
What's the Heinz ketchup?
Well, it's Heinz.
We don't want to support the kids.
What if it's Hunts?
Is Hunts better?
Is anyone down to shoot this Heinz ketchup packet here?
Catch.
Oh my god, that's such a bad throw.
For what?
Gamer Hands, by the way.
Well, we should fucking kill you.
Can you just like shoot it right now?
Would you eat it?
Do you want me to suck on it?
What the fuck?
No.
Just like.
That's what she said.
No, like, just like that.
Don't suck.
Bro, you guys don't have to make it like so sexual.
Just eat it.
It's an insect.
Eat it.
Don't make it sexual.
Just eat it.
Just put it in your mouth.
Don't think about it.
Just put it in your mouth.
I can't pour it.
Are you actually down to do this on stream?
For a donation.
Oh, for a donut?
I got to help you out.
Wait, Martin?
Marklavius?
Wait, for a fair cause.
Question.
Did she get a portion of that dono?
Whatever it may be.
I have some like three days-old cake that you can have as compensation.
You want to give me cake for eating a ketchup packet?
That seems commensurate, right?
That seems fair.
How much for the ketchup packet?
I don't know.
It's probably like five cents or something.
Nope.
How much for the donation for the ketchup?
So I do it.
What's fair?
What do you guys think is fair?
$500?
Just fucking shoot the ketchup.
Can we start the bidding?
Can we start the bidding?
If anybody else wants to get on this, I have a second one too.
Kelly, I'm looking at you.
Oh, my God.
I actually surprised I can't do it.
I love food.
I have no, like, I'm not picky out, but I will not eat ketchup.
Just like straight up at all.
Like, eat the ketchup.
already donated $100 the ketchup I already $300 anyways let's do let's do a $300 donation Yeah?
Would you do it for $300?
Yeah.
It goes into my pocket, but you're just like a fucking legend helping me out.
Because I'm a broke college student, trying to get it.
He could pay you back by getting you a drink after some time.
Oh, Wing Woman over here.
Okay.
Really quick, Eric.
Do you recall last stream?
I feel really bad about this.
It might have been Markuavius.
Do you recall someone at the table last stream was stepped away and a super chat was directed at them?
It was a TTS.
It came in, but she wasn't even there.
I said, I'll pull it back up when she's here.
And I don't, do you remember that, Eric?
Yeah, I didn't say that.
It was from last stream.
Do you remember if I pulled it up or again?
It might have been Martin.
So whoever that was last stream, it just occurred to me.
Sorry.
Oh my God.
The chat is on fire.
$500.
High body count and a long history of being single equals not a prize.
It's just the way men view it.
It's one of our very few double standards.
If you have been ran through and not lifed up, it's just a red flag for men.
Word?
Oh, wait.
Thank you, Bads underscore EXE.
Appreciate it, man.
We'll talk about body count here in just a sec here.
Really, last quick thing on the whole 10 thing and getting slapped in the face, I think you were talking about.
In terms of women being able to date across and up socioeconomic hierarchies, you're 19, correct?
Yeah.
Wait, closer to the mic?
Yes.
You're 19.
You're a travel phlebotomist.
Yeah.
Correct?
What is that?
$18 an hour?
It's $21.
$21 an hour.
You are dating.
You're dating NBA players, NFL players.
It sounds like you're dating multiple of them.
They're flying you across the country.
You're an attractive girl, right?
But you're 19 and you're making $21 an hour.
You are moving in circles.
You are moving in the most elite group of men that there is.
High status, physically attractive, athletes, desired by many women.
What else?
Did I say wealthy?
I don't know.
That is quite a socioeconomic difference.
SoCal Surfer.
Thank you for the 100.
Same for girls.
Some girls have huge vaginas.
I've been with plenty, and it's kind of messed up to judge someone on their parts.
Some girls are tighter, shallow, etc.
The girls who are better at sex know how to blank.
Same like guys, etc.
Some girls are tiny.
The girls who are better at sex know how to.
I mean, the girls who are better at sex know how to.
Okay.
I've been with plenty.
It's kind of messed up to judge someone on.
Oh, word.
agree yo is this i think socal surfer 805 do you have curly hair Blonde curly hair?
Do we, is that, you know who I'm talking about?
First name starts with a D. I'm not going to dox you, but thank you very much for the super chat.
Much appreciated.
So 805 is the area coach for Santa Barbara, so it might be somebody.
I'm from Santa Barbara, so it might be somebody I know.
Where was I going with it?
Okay, so you're dating NBA players and shit.
Obviously, men and women want different things, but the circles you're moving in, there's not like 18, 19-year-old dudes who are like getting flown out, who are getting comped trips, who are like getting attention from like really, really, really high-status women.
It's just not happening.
I mean, and part of that just comes down to the differences between men and women.
We both tend to value different things in people for whether it's short-term or long-term relationships.
But, you know, that kind of plays into your point about, you know, women are able to, and it's, I mean, it doesn't sound like any of them are trying to wife you up at this point yet.
Maybe, maybe they are.
I don't know.
I mean, they just want to fuck, let's be honest.
Yeah, that's just what you're doing.
But you're fine with it, right?
You're just kicking it.
I mean, I'm not over here like, oh, I need to be in a relationship.
I'm trying to be like wifed up.
I understand if that's what I wanted, but I'm smart enough to know where I can go and look for that.
I'm not going to go to no NBA player and be like, okay, I need a ring.
I need the house.
I need audience.
I'm not.
Well, you're, to some degree, I mean, are you, you're kind of living your best life.
You're moving in circles and getting attention from the top tier of men, from athletes who I presume are in incredible shape, physically attractive, really tall, making good money, high status, playing professional professional basketball, which I think is probably maybe the number second sport after football.
No, it's the highest paying sport.
It's the highest-paying sport.
Okay.
I don't know if it's more popular than football, though?
It might be higher paying, but it's not a good thing.
football second but when i recently checked it was it was the highest pain well in any case you're basically oh my god Spencer Park donated 2000.
Okay, donated $200.
But ketchup.
We said three.
He sent $100.
He said $100 before.
Ketchup.
And before.
Oh, what do you, bro, is that how you open a ketchup?
You scuttle.
Wait, show it to the camera so they see how messed up you are.
I tried turning it.
You're supposed to rip the little corner.
Listen, I'm bad at this.
It's like opening up a condom.
I don't know how to do that.
What?
I can't believe she's doing it.
Yo.
Let's.
Hold it up to the camera.
Is it good?
I'm like, bro, this chick is, wow, okay.
Spit or swallow.
Oh, God.
Always swallowed.
Have you seen that?
Going back to the vagina thing.
Have you seen that curb your enthusiasm thing where it's like, you know, you know, when women go like this?
You know, this thing?
When women do this thing?
Yeah.
For a guy who's small?
How do you know it's not?
What do you mean?
How do you know it's not?
Like if a woman has a vagina?
Cavernous.
I think guys need to start.
Women do this.
Guys got to start.
Okay.
Okay.
Can I bounce something off of.
Because she said, sorry, I can't look at you, but.
One thing.
Yo, W's in the chat for Giselle for fucking being a legend, for being a champion.
Brian could have opened it for her like a gentleman.
I apologize.
That was not very gentlemanly of me.
Let's get some W's in the chat.
She actually fucking pounded a Heinz ketchup packet on stream.
First ever, by the way.
That's quite a milestone in this podcast's sordid history.
Okay.
Clip it.
Clip it, guys.
Clip it and ship it.
Okay.
What a G.
She said she wanted to become a wife, right?
I'm sorry, I can't look.
Is that correct?
Like you wanted to be wife.
You wanted to be wifed up.
When did I say that?
Is that what you said, is what I'm asking?
No, so I'm not out here wanting to be wifed up.
I'm just vibing right now.
That's just not at the tip of my mind.
I'm not where I want to be in life.
So I'm not better be like, okay, I'm trying to get married.
That's just not off the top of my head right now.
If you're not where you want to be at life, wouldn't it be better for you to focus on trying to get there than hooking up with a bunch of random people?
Well, what I do in my time is my business.
So.
How do you plan to keep men interested in you once your looks begin to fade?
I think I'm just going to have to figure that out once my looks begin to fade.
But I don't plan on just sleeping around and hooking up with whoever forever.
I think I'm just young and terror and I'm just living my life right now.
Are you worried that's going to affect your future options, especially with this chat and seeing all the men here and like just the culture that this has that all of these men it definitely like crosses my mind.
I'm not going to sit here and be like, oh, I don't care.
I do care about it.
Like, you know, how is my future husband, if I do ever get to that point, gonna think, like, how's he gonna feel?
So, obviously, I feel like I could be a lot worse, but I'm not at that point yet.
I want to address one thing with this, and this sort of almost ties into what you were saying about, and what I was saying about how women are able to secure sexual attention from men that are higher than them in terms of socioeconomic status.
If you don't, if you don't marry or have a long-term relationship with one of these NBA players, I honestly think you're going to be really unhappy in a future relationship because you are now accustomed to a certain caliber of man,
NBA player, tall, good-looking, wealthy, high social status, successful, etc.
And then there's a certain confidence that comes with being a professional athlete.
Like, just in terms, okay, I mean, from we can approach that from a sexual, a sexual angle, we can approach it from just personality, all the components, right?
The whole package.
Do you think the guy that you're going to marry is going to be an NBA player?
It could be.
Right.
It could be.
But if you don't, you've basically, and I'm sort of repeating myself, you've become so accustomed to these really attractive, really high-status dudes, the normal travel phlebotomist isn't appealing to you anymore from a status point of view.
Well, I mean, like I said, I still do fuck with like regular guys.
Like, it's not like I'm strictly NBA players.
Yes.
You have four NBA players.
Yes, I'm saying that's my type.
Okay, I'm not sure.
Your type is NBA player.
Yeah.
I believe we call that alpha widowed.
How much money does a man have to make for you to fuck with him?
Good question.
Thank you, Kelly.
I would say for like a yearly or like monthly salary.
Both.
How about both?
Both?
Probably at least like $100,000 a year.
$100,000?
Yeah.
$100,000 a year.
Okay.
But you're 19, right?
How many men your age?
Are you have any interest in men your age?
I mean, yeah, the last dude I was just messing with who's about to be drafted, he's 19 too.
Okay, but I'm talking like normal guys.
Normal guys your age are not making $100,000 a year.
They're not even making it.
They're maybe in college or some shit.
Right.
Lauren, did you want to say something?
I was checking out Rue's chat.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, we're.
Go ahead.
What are they saying?
Don't worry about it.
So, okay, bare minimum for you in terms of financials is $100,000 a year.
Right.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
Have you ever made $100,000 in one year?
No.
I think the statistic is only 17% of men in the United States make over $100,000.
I think it less than 10%?
Shall we look it up?
I think it's less than 10% of men make, maybe, is it 50%?
It's maybe 10 or 15.
Eric, are you listening to that?
Some of them are in their 75, like 80s years old.
I think the average is like 40,000.
Do you know this, John?
Is it like 40,000 for average income for a man in the U.S.?
Yeah, I believe it was 40, but it might have been a little bit more.
45, something like that.
Yeah.
Would you date a guy's 45,000?
Yeah.
Yeah.
11% of women, no, no, no, no.
Well, men.
Men.
21%.
21% of men make 100,000.
That doesn't matter.
That's right.
CNBC, that's the only thing that's going to be.
Go to Wikipedia.
CNBC.
Wikipedia is also fake news.
Wikipedia is so liberal, too.
Also, the people who run it.
Can you go to that first question right there?
And if the people also run it, it will actually lock pages.
What percentage of men make over 100K?
17%.
Okay.
Oh, that's all right.
Really?
All ages, though.
Yeah, obviously it's going to change.
But what about California exactly?
That's counting like dudes in their 60s.
That's counting everyone, yes.
But then it's like only 17%.
Let's do the delusion calculator.
Eric, can you pull up the delusion calculator?
Go ahead.
It's a tab.
It's one of the favorited tabs.
I think it's calculator or something.
What was the question I had about this?
Here, we'll fill this out really quick for you and then any other girls who want to do it, we can do it for you too.
So what are the chances to find the men in my dreams?
Ideal age for you, like age range for a guy?
Into the mic?
That works for me, yeah.
20 to 40?
Exclude married?
Yeah.
You don't care if they're married?
I thought you said no, Steph Curry, no LeBron.
Marriage is kind of a marriage.
Wait, into the mic?
Into the mic?
I said I'd rather not if they're married.
Okay, so exclude married.
Race, do you have a preference?
No.
Okay, minimum height?
Let's do 5'8.
5'8?
Okay, fair.
Oh, Eric, scuffed.
Exclude obese men.
No, I would fuck with a bigger dude.
You'd fuck with a big obese dude.
He's tall, not nobody like, not nobody like, yeah, like stubby.
But like, say, like, he got a little, he got a little muscle to him.
I don't care.
Alignment, in other words.
Yeah, like, I don't mind.
All right, fine.
Proportional.
Minimum income, put it at 100K.
Okay, find out.
Might not be terrible, but.
Okay, that's 2.5%.
What is this even rating on?
It's like delusion calculator.
Like, what do you mean?
That's your ideal man.
I think it's the chances of you finding that ideal man.
So 2.5% of men between the ages of 20 to 40 who are 5'8 and above who make 100K or more.
So you get three out of 5 cat packs.
Duba didn't put in any of her information.
Like how much she is.
But this is just pointing out the proportion of men that are even out there.
So who's more delusional?
The average woman holding out for the rich alpha male or the average woman holding out for the lingerie model?
Wait, you mean the average man holding out for the lingerie?
One more time.
Who do you think is more delusional?
The average woman holding out for the rich alpha male, which we just saw in that delusion calculator, or the average woman, or the average man holding out for the lingerie model.
Sorry, I screwed it up.
A woman expecting, like, waiting for that man is way more delusional.
How many lingerie models are there out there?
I'm just saying, like, when you say lingerie, like, do you literally mean lingerie model, or are you just speaking about beauty?
Well, what I'm saying is that the average man can work on himself and probably eventually get to a status where he's going to attract all the lingerie women.
Right.
But the average woman holding out for the rich alpha male, we see how few, based on that delusion calculator, how rare they are.
Yes, because alpha males are more successful.
They're more successful, they're more rare.
That's why I said in the beginning that men are the prize because there are way less successful high-value men than there are beautiful women.
And throughout history, the most powerful men have usually had multiple women.
So going back to our idea of monogamy, would you say that polyamory is almost like where we're headed based on the delusional expectations of women?
I would say that's where we're heading.
But yes, that does play into the delusion of women nowadays, for sure.
With the society heading towards polyamory, you were talking about, for instance, with dating apps, almost all women date the same 5-10% of men.
Is that what you're referring to?
And then you're beating.
All women, but they're all gravitating towards the top men.
And we see this playing out on dating apps, for example.
Most women will say, I'm only swiping on, like, 10% of men, and all women are swiping on those same 10% of men.
And then I think if you ask, I mean, we can go around the table, like, what percentage of men that, for example, you see in real life, do you say, I find him attractive?
So why don't we start with you?
Oh, it's exceedingly low.
And reminder, earlier, you said that you're picky and that you have high expectations.
So in day-to-day, what percentage of men would you say you find physically attractive?
Yeah, that's a really hard one because I do recognize that, like, I'm not perfect, and I don't, I don't know if my standards are necessarily realistic either, I guess.
But I find such a slim number of men attractive, especially these days.
I'm really attracted to masculinity, and men just are not masculine anymore.
So it is very difficult to find a man.
When you say masculine, what do you mean?
Like, what are your, like, what are your, what's your definition?
Like, I want him to go to the gym, and I just want him to have.
That's why she rude me on.
Well, I mean, like, working out is really important to me, and then having just that super manly drive, like, waking up early, business, business, business.
Not that, and Brian.
But how is that?
But what is that?
What is that masculine?
What's masculine about waking up early?
The hard work ethic.
She wants someone who's ambitious.
Yeah, I find ambition.
I guess maybe it's not masculine.
Is that a masculine?
don't you could be not necessarily but i what other things are masculine i suppose um A rugged jawline, broad shoulders, all of the stereotypical, basic masculine gas stones as a human being, okay?
But besides the physical appearance, so does masculine personality traits have to do with anything?
Is that what you're looking for?
Are you just looking young too?
A physically masculine man.
But we were just talking about on looks.
So that's why I'm asking.
Just based on looks, yeah, I'm looking for masculine.
But and then if we're also including personality, yeah, I would like the masculine traits of protectiveness.
And obviously, there's some feminine traits that I want, like caring and nurturing, but I wouldn't want that overboard.
I wouldn't want a clingy man.
So yeah, I would want masculine men.
And there's just like a severe lack of testosterone in society these days.
I just look around and I see a bunch of beta bitches and I'm not really into it.
I think that reason is because a lot of women nowadays are more masculine.
So true.
And also because of our water, Alex Jones.
Just plastic.
Plastic in the water.
Can I ask you this question?
Yeah.
When it comes to relationships, are men more likely to be held to a masculine standard than women are held to a feminine standard?
Yeah.
That's a damn good question.
Yeah, they are.
What are those standards and who defines them?
I mean, it's so crazy because, I mean, clothing is a great example of how society relaxes in women's standards much quicker than it does with men's standards.
So, like, for instance, women have always worn dresses for as long as I know clothing standards until recently.
Now, it's acceptable for women to wear pants, and it's totally normal within society.
And yet, we haven't slipped with men yet.
We are now just starting to see the brink of that.
So, I just think it's like a slower thing, but it's definitely trending for both genders.
I've got a question for you.
You said that you like a guy who works out.
So, are you saying like he just has to be in like a modicum?
I don't know if I use that word right.
Modicum.
Modicum of fitness, or are you saying, like, you want like a really like muscular guy?
He doesn't have to be like vascular, if that's what you're at.
No, I'm saying just muscular.
I want a man who's been it who's been working out and considered working out a part of his daily routine, or at least five times a week routine for over a year.
Oh, yeah, I do work out.
But you also said you want a guy, broad shoulders, chiseled jaw, Gaston.
Yeah.
What's that song from the fucking, how's it going?
That's a banger, dude.
I fucking love that song.
Let's keep going.
Keep going.
No, it's a good song.
Okay, I don't know where I was going with that.
You want a Gaston?
Like, so you want a Chad.
You want like a 10?
I want a Chad.
Yeah.
I want a Trad Wife.
I want a Chad man.
I want it all.
I want little kids on a commune with.
Didn't you rate yourself a six or a seven?
Yes.
Do you want a guy who's, I mean, it sounds, you're kind of describing like a guy who's maybe an eight, nine, or ten?
Do you want an eight, nine, or a ten?
Yeah.
Who doesn't want the top?
But then you think you can still strive.
But that's where the double standard comes in for you because it's like, how are you expecting a perfect man?
I'm not expecting.
How are you expecting an eight, nine, or ten when you don't?
I'm not.
I'm saying I would like that.
I'm striving.
Okay, but then I would be very happy with somebody who wouldn't be considered your standard eight, nine, or ten.
Obviously, that's what I'm attracted to.
I feel like a lot of men that are in the eight, nine, and ten range are looking in the eight, nine, and ten range of women, too.
Doesn't everyone settle?
No one gets their ideal.
So technically, I mean, but.
But you're just $100.
I am a 32-year-old man that makes $800,000 a year.
Drive a supercar.
Let's go.
And I can tell you, money doesn't not affect my dating life.
Doesn't it?
It doesn't matter how much money you live.
Women won't see you unless you are conventionally attractive.
Yeah, I definitely think looks are kind of like the main primary thing that has to come first.
So, Spencer, can you tell us a little bit?
Like, obviously, you're a successful dude, 800K a year.
That's fantastic.
Congratulations, man.
Sounds like you have your life in order.
Obviously, I don't know if you're prepared to submit the photo, but can you tell us a little bit about your appearance?
Like, how did you rate yourself?
How tall are you?
Are you in good shape?
I mean, race sometimes comes into play here.
So you were, go ahead, John.
You were about to say that.
Oh, I was just going to say.
Thank you, Spencer.
Women will often complain about the feminine standards placed on women.
You got to have boobs, ass, you got to have a skinny waist.
Which is more unrealistic?
The masculine standards placed on men or the feminine standards placed on women?
The masculine standards.
Well, I think it's harder to get a six-pack for a man than it is for a woman to go get a BBL.
Is it harder to grow muscles or just not overeat?
It's harder to grow muscles.
And we should maybe go around the table on this.
And that's a good line of questioning.
So Is it harder to be good looking as a woman or as a man?
Define man as a man for sure.
Like life being harder?
No, to look good, I think you said.
Just to be considered physically attractive.
The steps it takes to be physically attractive.
Oh, yeah, man.
Definitely man.
Yeah, it's harder.
Define it harder.
Like, so like women to be deemed attractive, physically.
For example, like you said, this slim.
Oh, what?
It was in 100, so was it 50?
Yeah.
I'll pull it up here in a sec.
Let me see if I can hold it.
Continue, go ahead.
Go ahead while I pull it up.
You just said the like, let's say, skinny waist, right?
I was going to say, like, an example of this, you know, I live in Vegas.
You look at the strip clubs, right?
And if you look at male versus female strippers, you know, female strippers, you know, just basically have to be fit and slender.
Slender or curvy, I guess you would say, is the ideal body type.
What is the ideal body type for a male stripper?
He's got to have, you know, he's got to be chiseled, right?
He's got to have the body of a Greek god.
That takes hours of, you know, you have to become a gym rat.
You have to be obsessed with that.
And diet nutrition.
So, I mean, that's kind of, I think, where I'm going with this.
Right, absolutely.
Like, I do, I 100% agree.
Men have to put a lot of work, but just slightly depending on physical time and effort.
On that, I'll agree.
But the reason that I'll have hard times agreeing on the harder part for women is because, like you said, slimmer waist.
And yes, you can do the surgery, but first of all, cost money to earn money, not easy.
Second of all, yeah, that's a cop-out a little bit.
Like, would it be as easy physically, like naturally, biologically, for me to get that waist?
I think it would be just as hard for me as for a guy.
But yes, women, it's easier for a woman to use a cop-out in the 21st century.
Now, what if a man had a very successful status but had a dad bod versus a guy who's just broke but he's an F-boy?
I mean, is it more, is it looks over money and status for you, or, you know, what would be...
I might be the wrong person to ask, because I like Dead Bud.
You like...
You prefer dad buds?
Yeah, well, prefer to what?
To a scrawny little dude?
No, not that.
What I'm saying, if we talk about, you obviously, I seriously doubt that you prefer it over a man who's chiseled.
Well, yeah, well, of course, but then there are different levels.
If you, you could be chiseled and very skinny, and I will prefer dead bud over a skinny chiseled.
But of course, a good chiseled, yeah, will be better than a dead bud.
What?
Sorry.
Oh, so, okay, I want to, let's talk about your perfect man here.
So, and also you're an attorney, so you're successful.
I'm waiting on character and fitness.
So, you're a lawyer?
Because my understanding is that you can be a lawyer, but not an attorney.
I pass the bar.
Okay, but you will be.
But you will be an attorney.
Do you have something in your background that you're...
I legally don't want to tell anyone that I'm an attorney when I'm not an attorney because then I could be accused of giving legal advice and then I just, legal...
And also my mom is watching.
Shout out to my mom as an attorney.
Shout out Lauren De Laguna's mom.
DLG in the chat.
Let's go.
Yeah.
Okay.
But you will be, I suspect, a high earner, correct?
Attorneys make decent money when you are assuming you're a human.
Yes, I will probably be a high earner.
And you're a content creator, and hopefully that is successful for you.
Can you tell us in terms of, we talked a little bit about what you're looking for in terms of physical appearance, but maybe let's talk a bit of status, let's talk education, let's talk status, education, and income.
How much money are you, would you be looking for a potential partner?
I definitely don't look at like how much money someone's making.
I'm looking at how much effort they're putting in and then also how logical their effort is.
Like if they're just wasting time at like MLNs, then I don't care how ambitious they are.
But if they're, you know, if they're working for something and it's something admirable, then why not?
So for instance, if they dropped out of high school and then went to a trade school and started their own business, I find, first of all, plumbers, electricians, carpenters, these people make very good money.
Yeah, they make good money.
Yeah, so I don't have any issue with a lack of education or...
Okay.
Well, I mean, that's refreshing because, I mean, I think you often, a lot of, my impression is a lot of women don't want to date down socioeconomically.
Now, these tradesmen, they make good money and what they do is incredibly valuable to society.
However, I think there's going to be an educational educational unevenness and perhaps a achievement uneven uneven.
I'm not saying that.
Here's why I disagree with what you're trying to say.
Like with men, first of all, I just don't value education that much.
A lot of the people that I graduated law school with, and I'm sorry before I say this, and thank you to my law school and to Dean Ferrari and everyone.
That being said, a lot of the people I graduated law school with are some of the dumbest human beings I've ever had the displeasure of sitting in a room with, including some of my professors.
So I just really don't value education.
And some of the smartest people I ever met are high school dropouts.
So why am I going to be, oh wow, you didn't waste hundreds of thousands of dollars in school like I did that I totally regret?
You're excluded from my dating pool.
That's not like what they're asking you is like, what they ask me, how much do you want your desired man to make a year?
I really don't care about a dollar.
So are you saying like, well, I don't, I'm not sure if I totally agree with you.
But Kelly, did you want to say something?
If you have a startup business that's losing money, I could be interested.
Well, I'm just saying by you saying that you don't care what amount of money that your man makes, do you want kids?
I do.
So if you want kids, your man, your husband's going to have to support you and your kids.
So your man's going to have to make a certain amount of money to support you guys.
I would agree with that in most cases.
Can I just say though that I don't think it should matter initially right when you meet the man?
For me, for instance, I believe that if he isn't where I would want him to be, I will do everything I can as a woman to support him to get to that place.
I'll make sure that he will achieve whatever he wants to achieve.
I think that's a part of a good, healthy relationship too.
Not just expecting him to have it right when you meet him.
I love that answer.
That's a W. That's awesome.
I love that answer.
Beautiful.
You're beautiful.
That's what Brian's thinking.
Okay, I just have a couple more questions for you.
So, because I mean, and it certainly could be the case that you don't really care so much about that.
And you make some, you do raise some good arguments as far as, hey, you could be college educated and be dumb as bricks and it's an indoctrination factory, all this stuff, right?
But I do think that there is, they've done studies on this.
And generally speaking, I think women, for example, who have bachelor's degrees or who have higher level graduate degrees, for example, master's and PhDs, they've surveyed them and they typically want to date men educationally who are on their level or higher.
So if she has a bachelor's, she wants to date a guy who's at least as educated as she is.
But that survey is done by a bunch of people in the education, like who are receiving education, who are indoctrinated by the education.
Like, college is very indoctrinating and absent.
And then there's a lot of the, wow, you graduated college, you're a special person while you're in college.
So then you get some of that, like, egoness.
I don't, I just feel like I don't care about a poll of people's opinions based on, oh, I want someone who's more educated than me.
Sure.
But, okay, so that's fair.
But I think for a lot of women, they're going to, if they've gone to college, most of them want someone who's at least, because there's these articles coming out.
Maybe some of you have seen it.
A lot of women are saying, I'm struggling to find men who are economically attractive because women are starting to now, at least in, for example, major cities, women who have never had children, never been married, who are single between the ages of 18 and 30 are out earning their male counterparts in that same demographic group in major cities across the U.S.
So a lot of women now, they're, I mean, since 1980s, there's been more women in college than men.
So for pretty much, and now women who graduated in 1980, they're now in their 60s, their retirement age.
So we've had equality in terms of college education since 1980.
There's actually more women in college nowadays.
Yeah, it's like 60 to 40, I've heard as high as 65 to 35.
So there's more women going to college.
So they're making more money.
I think a lot of positive outcomes are disproportionately to the benefit of women in these cases.
But so in any case, you mentioned though that you, well, let me touch on the physical thing first.
So I have a couple photos here.
I want you to please tell me if this is what you're, and you can look into the camera for this.
So I'm going to raise up.
Oh, wait, Eric, put it over.
Yeah, we're going to raise it up here.
Is this, would you say this is Greg Plitt helping you stay fit?
Yo, R.I.P.'s in the chat for Greg Plitt, R.I.P.s.
It is.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's very sad.
There was a terrible train accident.
Like, legit, actually, a terrible train accident.
This is related to our Patrice.
He obviously didn't die from being unhealthy.
You can bring it back.
So, Greg Plitt, would you, is this the type of guy you're going after?
You said you'd want a strong, muscular guy.
I mean, John is an attractive man, yes.
Eric.
Yeah.
So is that like is that the only man?
Is that like that's peak?
Am I going to, am I saying I'm only going to settle for just that?
No.
But yeah, if he was interested in me, I would consider going on a date with him very quickly.
Oh, you'd consider?
I would probably.
I'd very quickly accept the date offer.
You know what?
I have another photo here for you.
Eric, can you swap it?
Actually, here, I'll hold it up here first and then I'll do it.
Okay, put it.
Other one?
Other one?
Eric, take control, man.
All right.
No, what do you, no?
Over.
Okay.
What about this guy?
Oh, my God.
Sylvester Salone?
Is that what it is?
Are you Myron?
Are you Myron his aesthetics?
He's attractive.
Yes.
Are you Myron his aesthetics?
I think he's an attractive man.
No, no, no.
I'm asking, are you Myron?
His aesthetics.
Yeah, yes.
I want you to say you're Myron.
I'm Myron.
You're Myron.
I am Myron.
Admiring.
Okay, thank you.
I am here.
All right, Ziz for you.
Okay.
That's Ziz.
Okay.
All right.
So that's the type of dude you're going after?
I'm not saying, I mean, obviously that would be my peak.
I'm sure, like, if you saw a beautiful woman that was out of your league, you might shoot your shot, right?
If someone that is out of my league wanted to date me, I absolutely would not say no.
But are you holding out for but I mean you're you're 29 and you've never had a long-term relationship.
You've never had a boyfriend or a girl.
It's not so much holding out.
Like I'll meet people and I'll try to get to know them and I just don't like connect with people.
Can I ask you a question?
Yeah.
Do you feel like you're in competition with other women?
I try really hard when I notice someone that I think is like objectively prettier than me to like internalize, oh, I might be experiencing jealousy right now.
I should definitely try extra hard to be nice to that person.
So whenever I feel jealousy, like the first thing I do is try to recognize that I'm feeling jealous and then go out of my way to be nice to that person because usually the prettier the girl is, the meaner other women are to her.
So I try to be really, I don't know.
But my exposition with them, yeah, like I'm not gonna, like, you know, I'm probably not gonna get that guy if, you know, if Giselle and I are walking down the street, Giselle's gonna get that guy, and that's okay, that's fine.
Like, that's okay.
I'm okay not being the top prettiest chick on this panel.
Like, I'm okay.
So then I just, that, I just, the way that you feel about that doesn't line up with your standards, I feel like.
Because you have expectations of like a man, but then it's like Met Katie H donated 100%.
Thank you, man.
Good show, Brian.
Giselle, loose the tattoos and let's find a ring that fits.
I'm making low six figures.
Rate myself as a five, but trying to improve.
Make low six figures.
Ladies, what is the first thing you notice about a guy?
Body, facial hair, teeth, etc.
We'll go around the table really quick.
First thing you notice is a guy, and then you guys continue your little back and forth.
Go ahead.
Just physical?
Yeah.
How about both?
Okay, well, I notice like how he physically takes care of himself, whether that's like if he does his hair or if I can tell he takes care of like maybe his skin or his fashion.
And then personality-based, I know I observe his actions, the way he treats me or other women, like open the door, like chivalry type of things.
That's what I noticed.
Okay.
All right.
I would just do like, I don't know, like facial.
I like facial hair or like I guess how they how they dress, but that's the first things I notice.
Um, if you see that they like visibly take care of themselves and also teeth.
I really like straight teeth.
Like if I see somebody with straight teeth, that's super attractive.
I like a nice face.
Like, like I say, I don't mind a man who's a little bit bigger.
But if you got a nice face, then you like a bigger man?
Who's like seven?
Honestly, I think I'll do an NBA player, by the way.
Okay.
I think I look for hair, the hair first.
I look at the hair and then like they're the way they're dressed.
What I look for, what I notice, I forgot the question.
What do you notice first?
Oh, I noticed.
Then it's like the beefiness of their shoulders and breasts.
Okay.
I agree.
I think like overall buddy, like how tall he is, and also if he's taken care of his cane and teeth.
For me, it's important.
Yeah, first thing is body, second thing is teeth.
Word thing for the super chat.
By the way, Spencer came in here really quick, so I'm going to address it.
Sorry, Spencer, that we're a little delay on getting to this.
At Spencer Park on Instagram, Eric, did you pull this up?
I'm 6'3 ⁇ .
probably a six out of ten well Spencer wait actually before we pull it up is it okay if we I mean he included it so I'm assuming he's okay if we react to it I spend more time working than working out.
Spencer confirm or deny is it cool if we pull it you cool if we pull up your Instagram Let us know.
I mean, I'm assuming it's okay because you included it in the soup chat.
What do you guys think?
You think it's okay?
Yeah, why would he say it didn't make it?
Why would you link it?
I don't know.
Chat?
I just don't, I mean, I don't know if he wants us to.
Chad, is it okay if we pull it up, you think?
Or I don't know.
I want it.
I believe since he announced it through a donation, it would be okay.
I just want to be considerate of it.
Eric, do you have it pulled up?
Scroll up.
Spencer Park, San Diego, Home Test Box, 007, Fast Lint.
Okay.
Roofing Solar Investor.
Is that a Rolls?
Wait, what is it?
What is that?
Okay, I didn't see the DB11.
Oh, wow.
She knows her ass.
Oh, okay, she knows.
Let's see that photo of him with the palm trees.
Click on it.
You're going to have to go to video.
Wait, no, actually, I don't know how to see that.
I can't.
We can't.
Here, in the sources, just hide us for a sec.
The eyeball.
Nope.
Nope.
GH5.
It's the GH5.
It's the GH5.
Okay.
All right, a bit of a, is that, is that a dad bod?
That's a tortoise, y'all.
Can you swipe?
Yeah.
Here.
There's more photos.
Go down.
Oh, there's more?
Okay.
Yeah.
Those are some cocks.
Actually, some cocks.
All right, just here.
Get out of that.
Get out of it.
No, just out, out, out, X.
No, Go back.
Go back.
We want to see the rest of his Instagram.
Okay, we have cars.
that's you passed out I guess that's you in there's a is that a sex in the city What are you drinking, dude?
What's up with all the fruit?
Okay.
Scroll down.
Is this you in the...
Oh my God.
Look at this man.
Look at that suit.
He's like a main character in an anime.
They look like different people.
Yeah, I know.
I'm confused on who's.
Click that one.
Yeah.
Because who's that?
Oh, 2014.
Younger version.
2014.
Okay.
And then click on the left one.
Yeah.
Bro, what?
Hello?
What happened?
Oh, it is an eight-year difference.
Okay.
I think you should bring back the emo hair, bro.
I think it's a good look.
Absolutely not.
Just you don't think so, Kelly?
You're a fashion consultant or what is it?
Stylist?
No.
Not a good look?
Yo, don't listen to her.
She works at Nordstrom.
I'm just like, bro, don't look.
I'm telling you, bro, it's a good look.
Bring it back.
See, look, they're all hyping him up.
I actually think he looks better older.
Yeah.
Don't listen to them.
Rock that maroon button down with the shoulder pads and the is that a gray suit?
Just keep rocking it, bro.
Is this like a Onizuka?
Great teacher Onizuka costume?
Okay.
Appreciate it, man.
So, ladies, Spencer Park, 800K a year.
Fucking giga Chad.
Do you go for him?
No.
No.
No?
How did he say his age?
Hello?
Would you go for him, Giselle?
Is that your name?
Giselle is my real name.
Angelica is my online.
Oh, okay.
Got it.
Did you go for him?
I don't know anything about his personality, so I can't.
800k.
He's.
I need more than 100k.
Okay, fair enough.
What about you?
He could be nice, but not your type.
I also don't know.
Not even that.
It's like you can't.
I'm not going to sit here and say I'd be down if I don't.
If I've never met him.
Just based off of the Instagram and that he's a Giga Chad making 800K a year.
That puts him in like the top.
Oh, that doesn't even remote.
Top top 1%.
What about you?
Just based off his Instagram, no.
I'm sorry, Spencer.
Looks sorry.
Go ahead.
Kelly.
It's just because Asian guys remind me of my brother.
What the?
And that's why.
What?
Asian guys remind you of your brother.
Yeah.
You don't date Asian guys?
I've never, no.
Really?
Interesting.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Word.
Why don't you like Asian guys?
Are you a race trader?
A race.
Are you a race trader?
No.
You wouldn't even date a Vietnamese guy?
No, not really.
I actually, like, I just, I don't know.
They just come off.
I get so close.
Like, they're just my friends.
Like, they give me, like, my brother.
Like, they remind me so much of the way that they like they carry themselves.
They remind me so much of my brother that it's like.
Sorry, go ahead.
Continue.
That I have like a brotherly relationship with most of my closest.
With most Asian men that I meet.
Wait, can you scoot your chair into the table so we can get you a little better posture?
And can everyone push their cups into the table just a little bit?
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
So it reminds you of your brother.
Yeah.
Like, most of the, like, I don't know too many Asian guys because I didn't grow up in like an area where there's a lot of Asians.
Where did you grow up?
In like Calabasas, Woodland Hills.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah, so not too many Asians, but yeah, like they, they, they are, like, every single Asian guy that I have, I have met and like I have like some kind of like friendship with, just they just remind me of my brother.
And I, I, I can't, I don't know, I can't describe it.
They remind you of.
Yeah, like they have the same personality traits as like the other.
That's a bit, you know.
I don't know.
Are you saying all Asian men are the same?
No, no, no.
I'm not saying that.
Just the ones that I've met.
The ones that I've met.
All remind you of how your brother acts.
Most, yes, the ones that I have met, yes.
Or like one of my cousins or something.
I don't know.
It's just like, I don't know.
What about like a nice Filipino boy?
There's a lot of nice Filipino men.
Well, you know what I mean.
Yeah, there's a, I've met, like, I've met a lot of them, yeah.
I just.
Laos?
What about Laos?
A guy from Laos?
Maybe like American born, but Laos.
No, not from Laos.
Cambodian?
No Cambodians?
No.
Definitely, it sounds like not Vietnamese because your brother's Vietnamese.
So that's like, I don't know.
It's just like we're too alike.
Too alike.
You know, like I can relate to you so much that I can't learn anything from you.
So it's like...
Mongolian?
No.
Korean?
Japanese?
Chinese?
I'm Chinese, too, so I'm Chinese.
You're part Chinese, part Vietnamese.
Okay, what about I'm running out of Asian countries?
Japanese.
I've met, I only know one Thai.
Indonesian?
What about like Filipino?
I already said that.
Yeah, I've met Filipino guys, but just.
By the way, how's my.
How's my geography, guys?
That's pretty.
Okay.
What am I?
Where was the.
We were talking about if you would date that guy on Instagram.
And then we were going around.
I'm missing like at least one or two of the South East Asian countries.
Korea.
I hit Korea.
Hit Laos.
Hit Cambodia.
But Korea is not Southeast Asia.
Yeah, Korea is not Southeast Asian.
No, no, no.
Oh, I miss Taiwan.
Thank you.
Thailand and Taiwan.
I said Thailand.
You got Laos, you got Cambodia.
I got Cambodia.
I got Chai.
And Vietnam's Southeast Asian.
Yeah, Vietnamese.
Malaysia, thank you.
Malaysian guy.
What about a North Korean guy?
What do you do?
I've never met a North Korean guy, actually.
So maybe you're open.
Maybe he's understanding.
Like, I've just, just based off who I've met, because like I've said, I grew up some, I don't meet that many people.
You know, like my high school is like most mainly like white people.
And like, so they, I didn't, like, experience.
Burma?
No.
Never met anybody.
So are you just not attracted to Asian men?
Yeah, I would say that too.
And then like I said, it's just a thing like we're just so alike.
Like, I like learning from my man.
Like, I like learning about, I like learning about different culture too.
And like, I like just experiencing new things.
But it's like with somebody, if I was dating like a Vietnamese guy, we relate so much.
Do you speak Vietnamese?
I understand it, but I don't speak Vietnamese.
Okay.
Wait, so you would relate too much to them?
And that's.
I know it sounds weird.
It's just like, I, it's just like, I can't, I can't learn, I can't learn from you or I can't, you can't teach, you can't really like teach me new things about, you know, like.
Is that really a primary like thing you care about though?
Learning.
Learning from.
Learning from my boyfriend, yeah, I care about that a lot.
I like learning from their culture?
Of course, yeah, I love, yes.
That's a primary thing you care about?
That's a really big, yeah, it is a big thing that I care about.
I care about if he cares about my culture and he wants to learn more about my culture.
And my boyfriend right now, he's black.
And he goes to extremes to try to teach me more about black culture.
And he tries to make me help me understand it better so that I have a better understanding of him.
I don't think I've ever heard a girl say that one of the primary things they care about is learning.
I mean, hey, if that's your thing, cool.
But learning about a potential partner's culture.
Cool word?
I mean, like, why wouldn't you want to learn about how they grew up and like how what their family traditions are like and how they want to, like, I want to teach my kids about Vietnamese traditions.
Sure.
You know?
What did you learn about black culture that you didn't know before?
How deep it is and how much deeper.
Honestly, like before even dating my boyfriend now, I'm not going to lie.
I was probably, I was definitely ignorant about some topics and then he made me.
Let's get rid of this.
Go ahead, sorry.
He made me open my eyes more about a lot of things that nobody in here is black, but like I don't think anybody in this room would really understand.
Are you black?
My mom's Blazian.
Yeah, you're mom Blaisian.
But like, there's a lot of things that go into black culture that somebody who isn't black is not going to understand unless it's taught to them.
And unless, I don't know if it's like really been taught like that, if you've really learned about it like that, but like when you, when it's coming from somebody who's so passionate about it and is so passionate about you learning about it, you have a deeper understanding.
You form a deeper understanding of it, which is why it means so much to me.
Okay.
Fun fact, my boyfriend is Vietnamese.
Oh, really?
And love learning about his culture.
Very important thing.
And there is something beautiful about exchanging culture.
Of course, yeah.
I agree.
Was your boyfriend into BLM?
Just out of curiosity.
Sorry, I'm just curious.
He's very, like, he's very, very passionate.
He's done rallies.
He's led rallies before.
He's led protests.
Like, he's very passionate about his culture, which was why I would say it's unfair of me to disregard it and not want to learn about it more.
Because if he cares about it so much, why should I make him feel like I don't care about it?
I mean, I think it's great that you want to learn about his culture.
I just, in terms of an attraction trigger, I've never heard someone say learning about, like, it would, I would not be attracted to someone if I could not learn from their culture.
And if that's the case for you, hey, that's totally fine.
But yeah, I don't know.
It's not just the culture thing.
Just a learning, like learning period.
Like, I like to learn from anything that he can teach me, you know?
Like, if we have the same experiences, if we're on this, like, you know, if we've done the same thing our whole lives, if we're not, if we're, you know, how that people say like opposites attract, like, if we're like the same, then I'm not really learning from you that much.
Like, I think, well, I think opposites attract is kind of bullshit.
No offense.
I just, I don't believe, I think I actually have.
No, I was just saying that in general, like, you know, how like people will say that.
Like, that's, I'm not saying that's exactly how I feel.
Like, it's sure, sure.
Let's let's move on from that.
There's an interesting comment on the screen.
Did you see it by any chance?
Which one?
What about an Asian guy who was raised by white parents?
Oh, for you to embarrass me.
I'm the same thing.
Like, I've never, I've never, like, talked to a guy, like, an Asian guy who was raised by white parents, so I wouldn't know.
And I just want to ask something about a culture also.
What do you think about all the American men traveling to Asian countries to find wives?
I mean, what do you think about women in those cultures and how they treat their men?
I think the reason why they're leaving this country to go to different countries to find wives is because it's a lot of $100.
Rate my girl at Michaela.no L.
She gives permission to post Instagram.
We are watching this together.
Imkuran BTW.
I also don't hate on the Asian girl.
I am not attracted to Asian either.
Porger.
Eric, you can go ahead and pull that up.
RateMyGirl Michaela.Noel.
Is there a dot also at the end, or is that just a period?
Do you think that those women treat their men a certain way because they want to or because they're forced to?
Or what do you think about that?
Not that they're forced to, but it's just the culture.
The culture is different.
The culture is different in Vietnam than it is here.
Like women in other cultures are taught to be submissive to their man.
They're not supposed to be the, they're not taught to be the man of the relation.
They're not supposed to be masculine.
They're not supposed to be dominant.
They're taught to be nurturing, like actual feminine traits.
Like we're taught, that's how we're, that's, that's how we're taught to be wives.
We're not here to cause issues for our husband.
We're not here to cause, we're not, we're not trying to nag them all the time.
We're not trying to be on their ass all the time about stuff.
Like we just want all we want to do is bring peace to them.
And that's how, in my culture, that's how I was taught to grow up.
Do you think those women are ignorant slaves or are they happy?
No, they're not.
It's a choice.
Obviously, like women, you don't have to do that, but that's just culture.
Culturally, that's how we are brought up.
Why do you think that a lot of American women can't learn from those women and say, okay, I can't answer that for you because I have no idea why.
I think they're just more open.
Here, let's react to.
Oh, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Oh, let's react to Spencer's girlfriend, Michaela Noel.
Okay.
Very pretty.
Cool.
Yep.
Why is he in none of the pictures, though, if it's his girlfriend?
How long have you guys been dating?
Confirm or deny?
Hello?
Okay.
Yep.
Cool.
All right.
You want us to rate her?
What was the original question?
Eric, do you remember?
Sure.
I think it was.
Yeah, whoever.
Rate my girl.
I don't know.
I'd have to see her in person, you know, so maybe you guys can be on the show.
I don't know.
But if you guys want to rate her, that's fine.
Let's do some super chats here.
All right, we have to, we definitely have to get caught up on super chat.
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So again, sorry, guys, that we're finally getting to these.
I know these came in a while ago.
My bad, guys.
I do try.
We're pretty consistent, though.
Like, we do get pretty much every super chat that's above the threshold.
So did we do this one?
Did we read this?
No.
Giselle, my voice is getting a little hoarse.
Can I have you read these super chats for me?
Okay.
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Throwing out all the disses today.
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Go ahead, Giselle, if you want to read this.
Lawyer girl.
Woman love to say she wants a man who is consistent and follows through.
But eventually, why do women call men boring and predictable?
No, I understand.
I think it's that might be a problem with society in our hookup dating culture.
That being said, me personally, I don't find predictability boring.
I enjoy knowing where the person that I enjoy knowing what's up with my relationship, if I ever had one, which I haven't.
So.
Would you rather be in a drama-filled relationship for the excitement or a boring relationship for the security?
Boring.
I have no desire to be in a drama-filled anything.
If I start dating, that's another reason.
Like, as soon as someone, like I started dating someone in law school, he was really great, really liked him, and then he just always wanted to start drama with me over nonsense.
So I'm not into it.
Word, okay.
Apparently the panel is too disagreeable.
Maybe I can get you guys worked up.
Deal breaker if a guy doesn't go, won't go down on you.
Go ahead, Giselle.
No, I've dated someone who didn't want to.
That's okay.
What about you?
What was that question again?
Bro, I literally just asked it.
Okay.
Deal breaker if a guy doesn't want to go down on you.
Doesn't like to go down in general, let's say.
No, because it's like if they don't like it either, like that's cool.
That's less for me.
But what if he still wants head?
Then no, you're not getting head if you're not giving it.
Giselle, your thoughts on that?
I would still give it.
Of course he would think that.
What about you?
What about you?
I don't know.
That's kind of like for a why.
Like if it's like.
He just doesn't like it.
Oh, that related to this.
There was a new news article that came out that apparently oral sex is, and this is my, I heard this from, who was it?
Who's that guy, that famous actor, the dad of Charlie Sheen, I think?
Do you know who I'm talking about?
Something Sheen.
In any case, he had throat cancer.
And he thinks it's from eating pussy.
That's what he thinks.
He thinks he got throat cancer because he was eating too much pussy.
But actually, it's, okay, I'm not a doctor, but if you have HPV, I think that it can cause something like that.
Yeah, it can.
Eric, do you want to find that recent news article?
Just something like throat cancer, oral sex.
Okay.
Which apparently impacts men more for some reason.
Okay.
Is it a deal breaker?
Wait, the conversation that that's not I don't think that's a reputable website.
Scroll down.
Wow.
Wait, no, no, no, no.
Pull back.
New York Post, that's slightly more reputable, maybe.
Scroll down.
Medical news today, scroll down.
Let's see what else.
How can you?
Huh, Jerry Springer died of oral sex?
What, huh?
What's that, Titan?
Breakfast Club.
Okay, keep scrolling.
When you get cancer, can they tell you how you can?
Business Insider, oral sex is the leading risk factor for a throat cancer.
Oral sex is People magazine, so it must be true.
But guys, you in America usually get the vaccine, so I think you're a false.
Oh my god, dude, the chat is on fire!
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Thank you guys so much.
You can't track cancer, though.
You can't what?
You can't determine how you got cancer.
Inhumane patience.
Is my patience inhumane?
Inhumane.
You decide.
You can't track how you got cancer?
What?
I tried to play a Game Boy earlier.
Inpatient.
Okay, so.
I mean, if you have throat cancer, what is it?
Or what was it called?
Oroth something, something?
Pharyngeal or something?
Anybody?
Was anybody reading that?
Does it make a difference if it's men or women giving oral sex?
Is it like the type of cancer you're saying that you could then trace it to?
Okay, if it's the type of cancer, you could then trace it to the vagina.
Is that what I'm asking?
Versus whether it's tobacco versus, like, can you look at the type of throat cancer and determine, oh, that's a vagina throat cancer, you know?
Well, I mean, you could determine.
I don't know if there's tests, but if I think you can test for HPV, and if there's, I assume they do some sort of swabbing or maybe they get, what's it called when they take a biopsy?
Biopsy, thank you.
They could take a biopsy and determine, hmm, there's some HPV here.
So it's plausible.
In any case, Deal Breaker, if, bro, these chicks are on the get off your phones, dorks.
Okay.
Deal breaker if a guy doesn't want to go down on you.
Did you answer?
So after this, I do got to get going because I got like a two-hour drive back.
But no, it's not a deal breaker for me.
What about you?
No.
Would not be a deal breaker in the also not?
No.
Okay.
Good to know.
Good to know.
All right, we have some more super chats here.
We have.
Did we read this one?
Yeah.
Came through.
Did you read this one, Giselle?
No.
What about this one?
No.
Wait.
No, to the last one either.
Oh, we didn't read this one?
No, Bunaga?
No, no, no.
Oh, yeah, no, we didn't read that one.
Giselle, did you read this one?
No.
Okay, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Ladies, some game.
If you find yourself being with a lot of celebrities but none has wifed you up, they are telling their celeb group that you're an easy lay and you're just getting passed around.
And once we get through these super chats, we're going to wrap up here pretty soon.
So guys, get your last-minute super chats in.
Thank you, No Bunaga, for the 50.
Appreciate it.
Go ahead, Giselle.
Robert is right.
I'm young now.
Is not a good excuse to be a 304.
Brian and Lauren, please ask Red Girl elaborate on that.
I think it's orange.
It's orange.
Orange top, just FYI.
It's red on camera.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Judy, do you have a response to VD cars?
I think a lot of people are tripping about the way I spend my time.
And everybody has their own opinions.
Has the chat been tripping?
Yeah.
I haven't been reading the chat, so I don't know.
You've been locked in on the chat.
Okay.
I warned you guys before the show.
I mean, I'm not mad at it.
Everybody has their own opinion, so I just feel like if I'm young now and I choose to live high live, that's just how it is.
Like, what are you going to do about it?
Okay, beaten cheeks here.
I think of the 50.
Go ahead, Giselle.
Haha, dependapotamus.
Women are typically fat entitled military wives that don't know anything of military regulations.
I'm a prior AD Air Force guy and deployed and lived in many countries, and military wives overseas went wilding during those days.
Thank you for your service.
Thank you, Cheeks.
Appreciate it.
Thank you for the 50.
Go ahead, Giselle.
I don't give people my number.
Any man on social media has the capability to message you, call you, video chat you, send you photos, etc.
Honestly, your boyfriend sounds like a little simp, but I have a doctor who can raise his testosterone levels.
He does look at that picture.
Look at that picture.
I'm sure he does have a doctor that could give him testosterone.
Steroids.
My boyfriend does not need those.
Are you saying that a ventide fallacy is on steroids?
I mean, I think that's what.
Are you looking at his profile picture?
Because he's saying to raise his testosterone levels.
And he has doctors that can help with that.
He says, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Oh, okay.
I see what you're saying.
Do you want to say anything to ventide fallacy?
I think you have a little dick.
Oh, my God.
A ventide, you can't stand for that.
I know you sent that.
Are you saying that because of the testosterone?
Like, the added testosterone does actually make your genitalia shrivel up, right?
What do you think of that?
Make my statement more true.
I was genuinely thinking that before you said it.
Oh, nice.
No, that really wasn't what I was thinking about.
I'm just.
Eric, you can check out the menu.
I'm not sure.
Okay.
Oh, my.
Okay, that's cool.
Giselle, go for it.
Lower your standards.
Everything is so much easier and better when I decided to give my boyfriend a chance, average man.
The complete opposite of what I used to look for.
Submit it to a man for the first time and respect his boundaries instead of fighting him.
Okay.
Thank you.
You said it's fucked up.
I'm just curious why?
Because I kind of agree.
Because she just said, I decided to give my boyfriend a chance, average man.
Yeah.
That's just like, yeah, why are you, why are you like, oh, like, you were good enough, I gave you a chance.
How would it be recognized?
I don't know if that was directed at you, was it?
No, no, I'm just saying.
I said that's fucked up when she was reading the comment because I felt like she's like saying like, oh, I just gave him a chance.
He's an average man.
No, like she just settled for him.
Why do you need to say that?
I have a question about that.
I agree absolutely.
Why is dating advice usually about advising men to step up to women rather than telling women to settle for more average men like they did in the past?
What do you mean?
Like men are just, dating advice is usually about telling men to, you know, they have to sculpt themselves to be what women want.
In other words, why are men still expected to be what women want if women are no longer encouraged to be what men want?
Well, I would say that I think women need to start changing themselves because we're the ones, like you said, oh, I don't know if you were the one that said it, but we're the ones with the choice.
We're the ones with the choice.
Selectors, yes.
Yeah, we are the selectors, yes.
So we have, yes, we're going to have lots of men who are like throwing themselves at us just because of the fact that we're women, but we are the ones who are choosing which one, coach of colour men, what men we want to be with.
So, like.
And related to that, do you think that it's fair for women to complain about men when they're the ones choosing the shitty men?
No, absolutely not, because it's unfair for us to be choosing and having such high standards because women are going to put their standards so high, but then they're not realizing that the men who are in those standards are not looking for the, they're not like these women that are asking for that, these are not the type of women that those men are looking for.
And do you think that women's delusional standards require men to set delusional goals?
Of course, yeah.
They set delusional goals, but it's like I think the change has to be with the women first.
Oh, I agree.
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Oh, wait, what?
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Brian, please bring him on another show.
And Chase, too.
Giselle is positively enchanting.
Lauren, you're okay too, I guess.
Aw, that's so sweet.
You're okay too, I guess.
Is that just the nicest thing you've ever heard?
You're okay too.
Yes, it's the nicest compliment.
It's like the best compliments ever.
Okay, cool.
Eddie Scrippo, thank you for the 50.
Brian, you are the Jerry Springer of podcasting, and I do mean that as a compliment to the Asian gal.
I respect you for wanting a man who broadens your horizons.
Word?
Thank you, man.
I appreciate it.
Okay.
We have here, let's see.
We did this one.
Mr. Cappadocia, I think you're the 50.
Go ahead, Giselle.
Ladies, what's the weirdest thing that you consistently find sexy or look for in a guy that no one would expect?
Like, damn, I like me a sexy forehead.
Or I lose it.
The niece for guys who played Dungeons and Dragons.
No duplicate answers.
Yeah, we'll go around the table on this.
Let's start over here.
Go ahead.
Can I go last section?
I need to think.
You need think, sure, go ahead.
I don't know.
That's such a hard question, I think.
But I don't know.
Like, you know, like when certain people got that, like, crazy look to him.
You know what I mean?
Like, when they give, when you just look at them and they, you just, like, be like, yeah, it looks a little crazy.
So you like criminals?
No, they don't have to be criminals.
Oh, my bad.
It's just like, you know, you like, you ever seen you?
You look at Joe, he's got that, like.
Who?
Joe.
The show, you.
Netflix.
Where he's like, he's like a stalker.
Like, I'm not saying I'm into stalkers, but he's like a stalker and he's got a lot of.
Who the fuck is that guy?
Who?
I don't even know.
You?
He's from a TV show.
Yeah.
Okay.
He's.
It's hard to explain.
So, okay, but you said he's a stalker.
Yeah, but I'm like, I'm not into stalkers.
Just like those people that just like, you look at him and you're like, yeah, he looks a little crazy.
I could vibe with it.
It's haram.
But I mean, I've seen studies that women are attracted to a criminality component in men.
Well, it doesn't necessarily have to be like.
There can be people that's not like a criminal and still kind of.
Does that make you feel unsafe, though?
No.
What do you?
I think it's more like.
It's more like.
I mean, they wouldn't be able to do that.
It's probably like a more excitement, but also like they are also the type that could probably slap you around.
Would you ever do that?
Or do you want those prisoners?
Would you ever do one of those prison dating websites?
It feels really cute, yeah.
But I mean, would you literally go to the website and troll?
Well, sorry, I didn't mean to press that one.
Sorry, go ahead.
Would you literally troll through a website like that looking for a pen pal?
Actually, I've actually licked on it because I've seen on TikTok what we're talking about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I seen at one point that there was, so I was like, oh, you know what?
Some of them are actually like really cute, but they're like so your killers or something.
I can't even say it right.
So you're not okay with them being a serial killer?
What if they just killed like one or two people?
I mean, if it was like a freak accident, that's different, but like if he had intentions, like I'm going to go in there and stop it, you know?
Sorry.
Get some help.
It's different.
No, I.
Okay.
What was that?
The TikTok girl, she had a boyfriend in prison, right?
And she wanted to promote other dudes in prison?
I don't.
I don't remember.
It was just like, yeah, I think she had a man.
She has a man that's in prison.
She's like, oh, how I found my husband that's in prison, da-da-da-da, like type of thing.
And I just went and licked.
What about that attracted you?
Like, what about her TikTok page?
Because it's kind of wild.
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What is that?
It just needed to be said.
Big UPS to Bony Hawk.
Bony Hawk.
Who is Lola Scumpy?
Bro, is that a girl?
She'd be like, you've seen that episode where she's like, I put sunscreen all over my butt cheeks.
She's like this very like, fuck you for that.
But, you know.
Oh.
Okay.
Wait, so the other girls here, do you guys kind of agree with her?
Like it's kind of attractive if a guy's like a little fucking crazy or like a little toxic or a little bad boy or a little asshole is attractive.
Well a little felonious.
Like we can't really disagree or agree with her personal opinion.
Like do we share one?
Maybe not, but we can't disagree or agree with her opinion.
You know?
He's asking like would you agree like with your in yourself?
Would you agree with her?
Would you want the same thing?
No.
But at the same time, like we are different people.
By the way, reminder guys, please speak into the microphones.
Anybody?
You were kind of shaking your head.
Yes, I love men who have committed felonies.
I'm not felonies.
I don't do those no more.
I don't like nobody I can't go out the country with.
If you can't go to certain countries, I can't do that.
Have you had experience?
Absolutely.
I've had.
Have you dated a gangbanger?
Yeah, my ex.
Your ex was a gangbanger.
He wasn't a gangbanger, but he was.
I definitely feel like he was trying to be something he wasn't.
And that got him into more trouble than it was.
Who here has dated a gangster?
Kelly.
Or a drug dealer.
Or a scammer or whatever the terms are.
Show of hands.
Drug dealer, including like selling weed at college.
No, like selling cocaine and shit like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's interesting because there is like a subset of women that will like become pen pals with these men in prison and will marry them.
And that's kind of an interesting pathology, I think.
It's a TikTok thing.
I think I know the girl that you're talking about.
And she is like, oh my God, I am so in love.
It is so great having a husband.
And you read the comment section.
These girls are like, oh my God, what a great idea.
You know exactly where your husband is and all signs.
I think it's different when you just like message them or something, but like getting in a whole relationship with somebody that you physically cannot see outside of a building, like that's different.
I wouldn't be able to do that.
Why do men have to put on an act to be the bad boy to attract women while women have to put on an act to be sweet and submissive to get a man?
Exactly.
Plays into male and femininity and masculine roles.
But do you think that is genuine or do you think it's an act?
It's an act, for sure.
Not everybody is.
I wouldn't say it's an act because some men are just naturally masculine, some women are just naturally feminine.
Are you able to, like, what signs do you look for to know if it's genuine?
Um, just how they are as a person.
Like, you know, you can tell, like, you can tell if, like, if he's trying to act hard and all of this, blah, blah, blah.
But then he's put in a situation where he needs to act hard and he doesn't do it.
He doesn't act upon his words.
So going back to you, would you prefer someone who's genuinely crazy or someone who's just putting on an act?
No, someone that's genuinely crazy.
I appreciate the honesty.
Yeah, like I like them like for real messed up, you know?
You want that unpredictability.
Yeah, I mean, sometimes, yeah, it's kind of cool.
I mean, not really, but like it's spicy, you know?
Until it's not crazy.
Yeah, until it's not, but you know, you're just no dice.
You know what's interesting to me is women very often complain about men being jerks, men being assholes.
Yet these are the types of men that they find themselves attracted to and choose, they choose them.
And it's just, it's interesting to me that, I mean, it's just, you don't see men like jumping, like if a girl, if I detect like any sort of criminality, I detect like, and men want like calm, chill, like we don't want, the last thing we want is that kind of energy in our lives.
So it's just very interesting the differences there.
And I think one component of it is men who demonstrate a degree of criminality.
I think it almost plays into like provide a protector.
Like a man who's willing to basically break the law to do something, he, in some view, is more capable of providing for you because he's willing to bend the rules.
And also there's a component of protection too, because I think criminality coincides with violence.
And men who are capable of violence are more attractive to women because women don't want to be with a guy who would not be prepared to protect them in some sort of situation where violence would be warranted.
So that's just a very interesting thing to me.
But let's move on from that.
So we want to get everyone on this question really quick, if you can.
If you guys recall what the question was.
Actually, before that, before I pull that back up, chat's been dying for us to talk about body count.
Yeah, dark triad.
It's the dark triad.
Narcissism.
Do you know what the for the dark triad personality traits?
It's narcissism, Machiavellianism.
Can anyone in the chat help me?
Narcissism, Machiavellianism, and what?
The chat's been dying to ask about body count.
Show of hands.
Does body count matter?
Should body count matter?
No.
No, body count shouldn't matter.
Here's a different question.
Is it wrong for men to care about body count?
Or do you object to men caring about body count?
I think it really depends on like.
Sorry, I think it really depends on like if this man is out there doing whatever, banging whatever, like has like a high body count, he should at least expect to find a woman that's like pure, like really pure to like a body count of like two or three because that's very double standard.
And it's like, you didn't even try to like save yourself, so why should you're, you know?
Well, men and women are different.
Yeah, but still it's double standard.
So, well, I mean, speaking of double standards, do you think that in order for you to design, in order for you to desire a trait in a partner, you yourself must possess said trait?
Okay.
What's the question?
So you said that it's a double standard.
Example, let's say a guy who has a high body count, but he prefers women, he wants a woman with a low body count.
You would say that's a double standard, right?
You would say perhaps that's unfair, right?
I mean, I'm not saying like he's wrong because that's like how men are going to want it, but I'm saying like you can't have your cake and eat it too, you know what I mean?
Well, so the question is though, do you think that in order for you to desire something in the partner, and this is a question for all of you, do you think in order to desire something in the partner, you too must possess that quality in yourself?
No.
Otherwise, we would all be lesbian and gay.
Sure.
So I don't think it's a double standard that even men with high body counts want women with low body counts in the same way that, for example, women who are short like men who are tall, or women who have no confidence are attracted to men who do have confidence, or women who are not funny want a guy who's funny.
I don't think that there needs to be a reciprocity necessarily in all the traits that we desire in each other.
Right.
The question I have about body count with men is why are there some men who will shame women for having high body counts, but then also complain how hard it is to get laid.
Is that a double standard?
I do find that funny.
Like, wouldn't you be encouraging, up up your body count, girl?
Include me in it.
Like, you know?
That's an interesting question.
Do men want women to be easy or not?
But I would assume that the difference is there are some men treat this like it's sport.
You know what I mean?
There are some women who are recreational use only and some women who are wives.
And I think if a man is going to settle down with a woman, he doesn't want someone that everyone else has had, that someone's been ran through.
But if it's just a quickie, it's just fun, and I don't understand why it would be a problem.
Right.
Okay, show of hands.
Should body count matter?
Yes or no?
Hand is a yes or no?
Hand is a yes.
Oh, hand is a yes.
It doesn't matter, though.
It does.
It does matter.
Okay.
I mean, I just, it just, I never asked, like, women willing, just be like, how many people you slept with?
Sure.
I don't think it matters scientifically because of pair bonding.
Well, okay, so just who here doesn't care about body count?
Or how about here's a better question?
Do you object to men if they cared about your body count, for example?
No, because I can understand why a man would not want to be with a woman who's been with so many people.
Okay.
That's completely understandable.
Same no, but then I should be allowed to judge him based on that same thing.
Sure.
Sure.
So for those of you, I mean, I guess everyone can answer, but some of you said body count shouldn't matter, whatever.
What's your body count?
Let's start with you.
Oh, no comment.
Come on.
No way.
I mean, it's not bad, but it's just like that's more.
Do it!
That's more like secret to me.
Do it!
Don't let your dreams be.
I give you like a range, but I'm not going to give you like a pinpoint number.
So just do it!
Make your dreams come true!
Just do it!
Do you want to answer the question though?
I'd be like, my range is like 10 to like 20.
10 to 20?
Okay.
Five.
Five.
17.
17.
Okay.
Twelve.
Private information for me and abortion.
Okay.
Well, I'm on the same point because I wouldn't want to share it.
Not because I had too many, but just it's too private, I think.
Sure.
Lauren?
It's not zero, and I wish it was.
And my parents are watching, and just the fact that I even admit that it's not zero, I think is enough shame for my father for tonight.
So, 20?
No.
Like, I'm just not going to give my number because my dad's watching, and I love my father.
Is he on the East Coast?
No.
Who's more likely to lie about their body count, men or women?
Women.
Women.
Don't men lie about having more and women lie about having less?
Yeah.
What's your body count?
My body count, which I am disappointed in.
It's six.
Okay.
Well, some of you answered, some of you didn't, but.
Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
Oh, Joe Cool.
I've heard that before.
Good times.
Okay, so there's the body count thing.
Boom.
Let's continue on with the soup chats and then let's wrap up here pretty soon.
All right, we have.
If you guys can try to be quick, just so we can get through the soup chats, did anyone want to come in on this, like a little interesting thing that you find sexy?
Did you figure out one?
Oh, I think that maybe other people would find it a bit weird, but I really love assertiveness and when they kind of control like everything that happens in my life.
So like even if we go out to dinner, like he's picking what I'm eating or something.
But that may come across weird to other people that I let another human being decide everything for me.
And are you talking about like, I mean, this is within the realm of like the king community, but are you talking about a Dom sub?
Yeah, basically, yes.
Okay, got it.
Okay.
So sorry, just like to qualify, would you ever consider being the 24-7 style lifestyle?
Are you like master slave level?
What are we talking here?
I mean, I'm talking about when I'm in the relationship, he can order me to do whatever he wants.
Would you ever be interested in 24-7 dynamics?
Why are you 24-7?
He's dominant over me.
Well, whichever one you're into, what we're doing.
Yeah, yeah, I'm submissive.
Yeah, that's how I would hope my relationship is, yes.
Well, I think when you're referencing 24-7, you're specifically talking about BDSM, right?
You're talking like, because for some people, they want the Dom sub dynamic strictly in the bedroom, but some people that extends into the broader relationship.
Maybe it's not everything, but there's some components that seep into the relationship, and for some, it's everything is within the frame of this Dom sub dynamic.
Right, yeah, yeah, that's exactly what I'm asking.
I'm just curious because everything.
As far as even my clothing, too, if he wants to choose what I wear like that, yeah.
Yes!
That's awesome!
Okay, do you have an interesting thing that just gets you going?
Like he's got a eye tattoo and like a teardrop or something.
I don't think that was.
He eats ketchup packets.
Yo, Brian's thing.
Yes, I like to force my women to just, it's like a degradation thing.
I just love it when they just consume just odd food condiments and shit.
That just, I got a mustard packet in the back if you're down, Giselle.
Thank you, Henry.
Strange thing, do you like it if they can like three-point I didn't like them being tall, like abnormally tall.
I like that.
Okay.
What about you, Kelly?
I like when they can, when they like do stuff like themselves, and like, like my boyfriend will move like his, his apartment, like he moved apartments and he would move all of it by himself.
Like when they're doing like super, like super manly stuff.
Like, I like that.
I like that.
Okay, that's cool.
That's cool.
All right.
So he was like, had like a couch and shit.
It's like just like his whole bed, just like just carrying it down the stairs, like no help.
I'm just holding the door open for him.
Like, that got you going?
Yes, that's how you're going.
I'm like, do you want me to help?
No, don't help.
Like, I don't even have to ask if he needs help because he's going to say, I already know.
Like, no, I don't know.
Was it a mattress?
Oh, yeah, he'll take the whole mattress down himself.
When you saw him doing that, were you like, babe, put down the mattress?
Let's go.
Let's go.
Okay.
What about you?
If he's willing to get on with my quirks and has like childlike quirks of his own, I find that very endearing.
Okay.
I like when the guy can cook and does it with passion and like cook something and they're like, oh, look what I cooked.
And you're like, hmm.
And it's usually good.
So, yeah, like guys who can cook sometimes.
Good shit.
Lauren.
I guess a guy who's really strong at math.
I have a math degree, so I like doing math puzzles and stuff.
Yes, yeah.
None of those are hard equations.
Oh, you've got them all figured out.
I mean, one-half base time height.
I hope I could figure out the area.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, cool, cool, cool.
All right, we have this chat here from Austin Michael.
Giselle, do the honors, please.
Ladies.
If your man isn't putting boundaries on you, you are not the wife zone for him, in the wife zone for him.
It should be a relief for you when a man starts to try and rein you in.
It's because he loves you and doesn't want you in a certain light.
That's actually a really good point.
Like, if a guy isn't serious about you, like, and if he just doesn't give a fuck about you, he's going to be like, all right, whatever.
Like, I don't give a fuck.
But if he actually is interested in you, I think it's a good sign.
So, and that's actually somewhat related to body count too.
If a guy gets curious about your past and your body count, it could potentially disqualify you.
But I think guys who are asking that question, I think women shouldn't view it as, oh, that's weird.
He's prying.
He's like, why should he care about my past?
That actually means that he's probably serious about you if he's asking that kind of question because he's trying to like do a bit of screening.
So, whereas a guy who's just like wants to fucking chuck you, like, he probably doesn't care a whole lot about your body count.
We have Spencer Park here.
Thank you for the 100.
Oh, yeah, body counts.
We just hit this.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Roma Clips.
Thank you for the Canadian 50.
Can we get a fit check?
You're welcome, chat.
I think we already got a fit check, if I recall.
Romie, Romi Clips, thank you for the Canadian 50.
Merci Bucou, citré biença, Merci.
I don't know if you're from the French-speaking part of Québécois or whatever, but Merci.
We have a piping ain't easy.
Thank you for the 50.
Go ahead, Giselle.
For the OnlyFans Wannabe Moms, when your son or daughter comes home emotionally damaged because of your OnlyFans sight, do you take responsibility or blame men for your situation or circumstances?
You're the only one with an OF, right?
Anyone?
Who here has an OF?
Your response to piping ain't easy.
It really ain't.
Kelly knows.
This is funny.
I would definitely, if I were to have children, that would be something I would just take responsibility for it, but it's also not something that I'm wanting, not really wanting children.
Okay, all right.
Thank you.
You can pull that one back up in a sec here, Eric.
The mystery of godliness.
Thank you for the 100 men.
Appreciate it.
Giselle, do the honors, please.
God made masculine and feminine.
The problem with the relationship between men and women today is the lack in the natural order of life.
Men represent what women cannot, and women represent what men cannot.
Having a lead role only works with a support.
Yo, the mystery of godliness.
Big thank you for the $100 super chat, man.
Really appreciate the support.
Thank you, man.
Word?
That is some poetic Socrati shit.
Thank you, man.
Giselle, hablas Español.
Unpoquito.
Unpoquito.
What was that song we were singing before?
The Gaston song.
Can you guys sing it?
Okay, Mex Carito.
Thank you for the 50.
Love your podcast, Brian, the Twitch streamer to the far right.
I love your outfit.
Could I treat you to a dinner at TwitchCon?
Also, may I slide into your DMs?
Giselle, that's for you.
Thank you for the outfit compliment, but I will have to refuse the dinner.
I'm sorry.
Why?
Wow, that's so unfortunate.
Oh, because I don't know anything about him.
Will you let him slide into your DMs and learn about him?
And then maybe he gets on you a picture.
Maybe you could be attracted to him after he slides into said DMs, and then maybe you could get dinner.
I don't answer any of my DMs, so I mean, if he did, then he would get lost in the abyss.
The abyss.
How many DMs do you get?
I don't know.
I don't really check them.
Here, pull up.
You have your phone on you?
Yeah.
Just tell us how much are in your requested.
Question for the panel on Mex Carito, though.
Do you see that photo of him?
It's like a mini anime thing, and he's wearing a sombrero.
Is that like thoughts on that?
Do you know what Carrito is?
Warcraft Rabbits.
Thank you for the 50.
Women's standards, Ben Time Space.
A man who works out all the time, works all the time, spends all his time with me and the family.
These expectations plus society haranguing to man up to meet him.
Wait, haranguing to man up to meet him equals deletion.
Funny watching Brian stagger.
Wait.
Stagger?
Swagger?
That's obviously a typo he's talking about, my fucking.
Okay.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Dav with the big Merci Bucou pour la Canadienne 280.
Merci.
C'est rémon génia.
Sa, merci.
My rating.
Okay, this is the rating.
Latina black pink, black, pink, 9.5, humble, silent bob.
7, art major sniffles, 6.5, rookie of the year, 7.5, dim some girl, 6.
Isn't your thing on Instagram like your dim sum restaurant, okay?
Babushka with the six, her granddaughter with the eight, Brian's hot lawyer sister.
Yeah, we're related with the eight.
Tony Hawk and his huge Toshiba laptop.
God damn, that thing's a tank.
Holy shit.
Brian, closer to the mic, Atlas, 7.5.
Apologies for the interruption.
Well, thank you very much there for the official rating for tonight, coming all the way from Quebecois, Canada.
Merci Bucu.
And then we had Doc Vanablis with the 100 with no message there.
But Doc, your soup chat is greatly appreciated.
Thank you for the patronage.
It's very welcomed.
Thank you, Doc.
And he did a subsequent one, too.
Another one.
Doc, thank you so much for the support tonight, man.
Much appreciated.
And finally, he figured out how to use his keyboard.
Doc, Giselle, you are beautiful, sensible, and classy.
May I introduce you to my half-Cuban son, Summa Cum Laude?
Did I say that right?
Summa Calaud.
Summa cum laude.
Soon to be lawyer in a suite, alpha male, Patria Evida?
Is that savor that right?
Is that Spanish?
Oh, I got it.
Father is life.
Patria?
Isn't that father?
Do you want to respond to this, Giselle?
I will have to politely decline again.
I'm just at a point in my life where I'm...
That did nothing, Eric, by the way, just saying.
Yeah, I don't realize that noise.
Just made more noise.
Go ahead, Giselle.
I'm not accepting anyone at the moment or seeing anyone at the moment because I want to focus on getting myself to the best place that I can be to be the perfect wife one day.
So that's just what I'm focused on at the moment.
Okay, and then final super chat.
Sugar bomb B13 with the 50.
Giselle wants the Patrick Bateman type.
Is that true?
What is that?
Have you seen American Psycho?
No.
Yeah, she wants to.
She wants to know what Psycho.
Yeah.
I think she's not going to be able to do that.
What is his title?
She wants the crazy eyes.
Here, let me just ask, maybe this is a clarifying question.
Do you like Huey Lewis in the news?
No.
Their early work was a little too new wave for my taste, but when sports came out in 83, they really came into their own, both creatively and artistically.
I'd say their undisputed masterpiece has to be Hip to Be Square, a song so catchy, most people don't even listen to the lyrics, but they should.
Okay, anyways.
Can you hum it for us?
Can you sing it for us?
Sing what?
The song you just mentioned.
Oh, only if you do the Gaston song.
Where's my...
I need to return some tapes.
It must break out into song.
Look at hum as an accompaniment.
A what?
Hum as an accompaniment.
I don't know.
The Gaston song?
Are we humming that?
Okay, that's all the soup chats.
That's all the donations.
Guys, if you want, get your last-minute soup chats in.
Otherwise, we're going to wrap up here pretty soon in a couple minutes.
So I'm trying to think.
So before we wrap, I wish I got to this question earlier.
One of the things I often like to ask is, is there anything dating related that you want to get off your chest?
I wish I asked it earlier, but the conversation was just flowing.
So I know it's getting late here, but does anyone have a final thought or question or something dating related you want to get off your chest?
I'd like to just ask the ladies, if you, each of you, were looking for a quality man, where would you expect to find one?
Where?
I would, that's why I want to find a job and look for the man in this circle, like in my career, what I'm pursuing.
So, because I'm going to go on a certain level and he's going to go on a certain level and then we are going to be both more compatible.
So yeah, we're going to match each other much more if we are going to be in the same workfield.
We just stick.
I agree with her.
So you just kind of leave it up to fate or you kind of like manifest it into your life or do you actually like want to go seek it out?
Definitely not seek it out, more just like fate, like whatever, however happens.
You know, I like to ask women why is it when it comes to their education or their career, being assertive and going after what you want is a good quality.
Why not also in dating?
To be honest, I don't know.
I feel like with women, I feel like me saying what I want and me saying what I'm like doing, I don't know.
I feel like that's a big problem.
Do you feel like that's a masculine quality?
Like it's just something that that's what I'm assuming you would say about that.
Just from my understanding with relationships, that if one person is going to be the dominant person, and if you are an aggressor in a relationship, then you're taking that dominant role away from your male partner, and then your male partner is not going to be giving you the masculine energy that you're desiring out of a relationship.
If I'm constantly pursuing men, I'm going to end up with a beta man.
Well, I will say that I, despite me being very submissive, when I know that I like someone, I do make it evident to them.
And I do, I actually prefer to make the move rather than on me.
That's actually surprising because you seem very submissive.
I am very submissive.
However, I am also peculiar in what I want.
And the certain energy that I want a man to give me, I need to pick that out.
So that's why, I guess, maybe I'm just picky.
I don't know.
What is the certain thing that you want?
A certain dominant energy that a lot of men seem to lack nowadays.
But I'm just saying that, like, in my past, the man that I, one of my exes, who I did approach, that was the best dominant submissive relationship I had, honestly.
Okay.
But also to answer your question, I think women should be told that.
I don't really believe in wasting too much time.
I think the worry, at least for me, would be, even like when I was before I had my boyfriend, if you just sit around and wait for a guy to approach you, how do you know it's going to be a good guy that comes along?
How are you going to know it's going to be the right type of for you guy that is going to come along?
How do you know it's not going to be a beta that just like got a little bit more holes in the moment and approached you?
So I think.
Chap donated $100.
37-year-old combat veteran, Iraq AFG.
I've never known that men had such hardships to get women.
I've always been able to drop the hottest women if for any reason drama to my life.
I don't have an insta, but rate me on left beat Chad Ivy, pick his tattooed guy holly.
Thank you for your service.
I just wanted to follow up on that also.
If women are the ones who determine that men should lead relationships, wouldn't that mean that women are really the ones in charge?
You know, in Russia we say men is the head and women at the neck.
Correct.
So wherever the neck turns, how can men lead if it's by women's terms?
And sorry, and if everyone wants men to lead, is it any wonder why most leadership positions are held by men?
There's a lot in there.
Which part would you like to?
The first part.
Basically, how can men lead if it's by women's terms?
I don't think it's by women's terms.
I think there should be like a give and take, right?
Like, for example, the submission, right?
I personally believe that both partners should be submitting both to each other, to their relationship, to growing and getting better together.
So no, I don't think that it should be.
And did you want to answer that second, that last part?
Just basically, if everyone thinks that men should lead relationships, is it any wonder why men also tend to be in a lot of leadership positions just in society?
Do you think there's a correlation there?
For sure, there is a correlation.
There's a lot of, I feel like, arguments that we don't have time to go into biologically, like why women might choose to not take certain leadership positions, you know, or why men would, you know, stuff like that.
But yeah, absolutely, it correlates.
But I also, as I said, I do think women should step up, especially when it comes to choosing the men that they want.
Fair.
Okay, we're good on Super Chats, I think.
We're good on, okay, I'll read this really quick.
Puffy Vegas 50, I'm going to rate every girl 867667577.
Which is it this way?
Is it that way?
That way.
Okay.
Oh, yeah, definitely that way.
Puffy Vegas, thank you for the...
What is going on in your profile photo?
What?
Oh, I know him.
Oh, that's your homie?
Yeah.
Rock and roll.
And I think we're good here with Streamlabs 2.
Okay.
Lawyer Girl.
Except on drugs.
Why am I on drugs?
All right.
Let me shout out to Twitch people, then we're going to wrap here.
And then I'm going to rate.
We're going to raid someone on Twitch, I guess.
I'm trying to figure out how to do.
Oh, my God.
Faith.
Thank you for the raid.
Appreciate it.
I know it was a while ago.
I know most people on Twitch are like shouting it out as soon as they get a raid, but we're just doing it a little differently since we're primarily on YouTube.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Robot Rob.
Jesus, I can't speak anymore.
Okay, Robert, thank you for the Prime.
Fura.
Ferment.
I don't know.
Thank you for the Prime.
Thank you for the bits, guys.
Zombie, thank you for the follow.
Keck, thank you for the follow.
Three Sparta Kush.
Is that like a weed strain?
Thank you for the follow.
Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
Drop us a follow.
Drop us a prime sub on your way out of the live stream tonight.
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Quick, free, easy way to support the show every single month.
Thank you for all the follows, guys.
Thank you for all the prompts tonight.
Thank you, everyone, for the super chats and donations.
Really appreciate it.
And I'm trying to think.
Are we going to one last video?
Do we do a tape video?
We could do a tape.
Let's do a tape video and then we'll wrap.
Anyone else?
Final thoughts?
Last chance?
Speak now.
Oh, the ketchup packet.
Kelly.
Shoot it.
Me.
Yeah, do it, Kelly.
No, I hate ketchup.
I hate ketchup.
You don't like ketchup?
I haven't eaten a drop of ketchup since I was like three years old.
All the more reason to do it right now when you're live in front of like 5,000 people.
I'll do it, but they got to donate $500.
$500 this late in the game?
Absolutely.
It could be.
Hey.
I'll do it.
She'll do it.
How would you do it?
Would you like, can you do a pour?
I don't know.
I'm not speeching like that.
I'll use that to do that.
Okay.
All right.
500 guys, and she will eat.
Can you pass the ketchup packet over here, Kelly?
So I can hold it up for the camera.
Yeah, so here's the ketchup packet, Heinz.
Tomato ketchup.
It's simply.
So no artificial sweeteners.
So guys, it's, I guess, a slightly healthier version of that.
Giselle, do you just want to do like a two-for-two thing or what's up?
If you want.
So you'll do it for $500.
Is this a bidding war?
How much will you?
I guess you're bidding for lower, I guess.
What's the minimum?
Anybody who will do it for like 100%?
Someone did it for another.
Can you do it, Zenya?
No, I wanted to say, maybe you just need to tell her to do it, and then she'll do it.
I just need to...
Can I just throw it at your face again?
I feel like it's donation worthy, though.
And over here, she says 500.
Well, Eric, can you let me actually look at the tape videos that we have available to us and then we'll watch a video two minutes, get your reaction, then we're going to wrap 40 minutes later, okay?
Where's the videos?
Oh, here we go.
Hold on.
Let's see.
what was the topic okay we could talk about we didn't really talk about that There's a short one called Tate to Submissive.
We haven't reacted to that one in a long time.
Yeah, it's in the Tate folder.
Where is that folder?
In the videos folder, in the podcast folder.
How much for Giselle to eat a popsicle?
I have like a cake.
Do you want to just start munching on some cake too?
He just likes to watch her eat.
She's looking at it.
We want Giselle mukbang.
I'm considering.
Okay.
Whatever podcast is going to have a spin-off, Giselle mukbang.
It's in the works.
It's going to be a popular segment.
Did you find it, Eric?
Should we just do $100 for Giselle to eat the ketchup?
Or actually for Kelly to eat the ketchup, right?
What?
$100 in my pocket for you to consume this ketchup in my pocket.
Because you're nice like that.
Like, you're looking out for me.
Come on, Kelly.
Hold on.
I don't know.
Yeah, there you go.
Dude, I have not, I hate ketchup.
But that's almost why, like, Giselle already had one.
You have not eaten ketchup since you were three.
How old are you?
You're 21.
That's like two decades, son, with zero ketchup.
No, I hate it.
Like, when I make my sandwich for my boyfriend, like, I can't even pour the ketchup on it.
You can't even be around ketchup?
It's just like, hurry this shit up.
Like, yeah, I can just do it so we can go to the next 12.
But I'm like kind of dug in with Kelly here because she hasn't had ketchup since like the Bush administration.
Can I have some water?
Oh, yeah, of course.
Here.
Is there.
Ian.
Here you go.
You can just like pour that in a cup.
Is she actually going to do it?
I feel like my friends are going to call me a pussy if I don't.
Let's fucking go.
Hell yeah.
That's a lot longer.
Okay.
Here, you can throw the pass the log back over here.
Oh, okay.
Then.
Oh, she needs more.
Are you going to like vomit?
No, I'm not vomiting.
It's not that bad.
I don't vomit.
Okay.
He has no gag reflex.
Rule number 76, no excuses, play with the champion.
Okay, I'm going to throw to you like a frisbee.
Bro, Kelly.
Your throw is really bad.
Like, your aim is really bad.
You chucked the ring box like all the way over her head.
I was testing her.
What sports did you play in high school?
I need a girl with like good fucking reflexes.
What sports did you play?
I wrestled.
I didn't play any ball sports.
First off, you don't play wrestling.
You do wrestling.
The only sport that you don't play, you do.
But unfortunately, I'm not good with handling balls.
Your hand-eye coordination spit off.
Or shooting.
It's a bit off.
But wrestling, I can touch a man's body all over the place.
Okay.
Wow.
Yeah.
JV, what's up?
Junior Varsity, let's go.
All right, let's go, Kelly.
Nobody even sent $100.
I don't know if anyone's going to do it.
for free she's gonna anybody is this Is this?
Are we abusing?
Am I abusing the chat a little bit?
Is this abusive?
No, I'm like, I mean, I'm being a bit facetious, but is this, am I abusing the chat a little bit?
So do you want to just shoot it?
Otherwise, Zenny is going to fucking rip it out of your hands.
Yeah, because I'm so hungry already.
It's like 12 a.m. and we've been here for a while.
What are you going to eat?
Do it, Kelly.
Do it.
Eat it.
What are you going to eat?
In and out.
Yeah, nice.
You smelled it?
Why did you smell it, bro?
I don't know.
I don't know.
We're all going to be able to do it.
Was the expiration date?
This is like, I just got this.
It's fresh cake.
Don't smell it.
Just go crazy.
Just poured it.
Just punch a bit.
Just do like one and the other.
I'll do it for you.
You want me to do it?
No, Kelly has to do it.
She hasn't had a catch-up in 20 years.
No, I feel like it's the easiest thing to do.
Just don't breathe.
Just don't breathe.
Yeah, don't breathe just.
And then drink the water.
Let's fucking go.
Good for you.
Can we all get a round of applause for Kelly?
It's good for you.
For overstepping your fears.
Let's fucking go.
Okay, I don't think, oh, super chat.
Yeah, let me read these and we're going to wrap up.
Okay.
Wait, this one?
I started with the girl in the black.
Hey, Puffy Vegas.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate the 50.
Max, thank you for the 50.
Giselle, how would be the best way to interact with you?
I would like to get to know you, even if it is just as a friend.
I respect your answer to dinner.
My profile picture is my Twitch logo.
It is Corito, but Mexican, hence, Mex Currito.
Your response?
I mean, I will be at TwitchCon, so if you approach and say hello, I will say hello back.
When is TwitchCon?
October, the end of October.
Do you have a booth?
Nope.
I'm just going to go.
That'll be fine.
Good times.
All right, sweet.
Okay.
Oh, the tape video.
Okay, run the tape video.
And also, do I worry, if I am too submissive, will he not respect me?
No, Get rid of that.
Get rid of that.
Get rid of that shit.
That won't respect me, crap.
That's not real.
Is that real?
Really?
You know what?
So many women say to me, Andrew, you know what?
You're so rich, but you're smart, and you're actually very intelligent.
And I know you'd get really bored of like a robot.
And I'm sitting there thinking, bitch, I wish to God you were a robot.
Shut the fuck up.
We talk about star signs?
Oh, yeah, I'm so glad.
Tell me more about Sagittarius Rising.
Idiot.
I don't give a fuck.
Give me a robot.
All men want robots.
That's all we want.
Four wives, robots, inshallah.
Put the burg on.
Yep.
What are you talking about?
We don't care.
Two coffees.
That's it.
It's nice and easy.
There's no such thing as too sloppy.
There's no such thing.
I'm never going to look at a beautiful woman who does everything I say and go, you know what?
You do too much of what I say.
I want to go get some disagreeable baby.
Okay, your guys' reaction to that.
Let's start over here with Lauren.
Go ahead.
I think generally the concept I would tend to agree.
The concept I would agree with, but overall, no, because if he genuinely just wanted to F a robot, he could purchase a robot.
They exist.
Go purchase a robot then.
Yeah, go fuck Kiki.
Like, Kiki is a nice, beautiful, blue-haired bitch.
She's single.
She just doesn't have niece.
But I guess it's okay.
Your response to the video?
I mean, if someone likes to be a robot, then I think it's their choice.
But elsewhere, I agree with Lauren.
I think there's something scary about being, like, wanting to, like, any of your humans that you care about to be like robots.
Yeah.
I don't think he's literally saying he wants his wife to act like a robot.
I think he's just saying, like, that's just how, like, if you're continuously giving your man what he wants, then that's a continuous thing.
Like, a robot is going to continuously do the same thing.
So I don't think that's unfair of him to ask for.
I don't think it's unfair of a man to ask for his woman to listen to him all the time.
Yeah, I mean, I think he just wants a really submissive woman that doesn't really challenge him and just kind of.
Well, we're not supposed to challenge.
That's not what a purpose of a woman is supposed to do.
You're not supposed to challenge your man.
But a lot of women do challenge men.
But most men don't want a challenge.
We don't want to be challenged.
Wouldn't you say people grow when they're being challenged?
When we when I say challenge, I mean nobody want no man wants a girl who's gonna nag at him.
Oh fair, fair, fair.
You don't have to read it.
No guy wants a girl who if he's like just picking out every little thing he does or it's like, oh, you can't do this for me, why?
Like no man wants to have always have to deal with that.
I ask why should men believe that women will submit in a relationship when they can't even submit in an argument?
They if they can if a woman can't just shut up and say okay, then they're no, they can't be submissive.
There's no that's not a submissive woman.
Like if you can't listen to your man and simply say okay and be okay with that and that's it, that's the end of the argument, then you know, I don't think you can be with an alpha male.
But we hear the expression, you know, the need to be right.
No, there is in a relationship there is no need to be right.
It's if you're if you're in a relationship with someone you don't work things out's not you're right you're wrong.
You're two people.
You're two people working into one relationship.
And I would also add that in the relationship right and wrong is when you are not being good to each other.
So like whatever like right depends and wrong depends.
As long as you were being like on the same page you were understanding each other.
That by definition to me well don't we have the don't we have the expression being the bigger man?
Aren't men more likely to concede even if they're not wrong?
When you say being the bigger man, do you mean like a woman's just like like just saying like just dealing with what her man has to say and saying like okay?
Well I'm saying that you know men will often I think that's well I think it works a lot it works very well in a woman's favor to just shut up and just be like okay like you know just to be submissive.
It works very very well because it's gonna make the man want to do things for you more because it's like if you're giving the man everything he wants why wouldn't he do it in return for you?
It's that simple.
Women have power in their femininity and we you get more power for being more feminine.
You get more power for being more nurturing, more caring, more sweet.
If you're bickering with your man all the time, why is he gonna want to be me?
Why is he wanting to you?
He's not gonna want to do that.
Yo, can we get some W's in the chat for Kelly over here?
I want to see W. Kelly or Wellie.
Let's see Wellie in the chat.
She fucking downed.
That's her first catch up in two decades.
And she's pissed.
Okay.
But she doesn't post her boyfriend on Instagram, so it's kind of like, you know what I mean?
But, you know.
Okay.
Your take on the video?
Yeah.
I don't mind.
I really don't mind doing whatever my man wants me to do as long as I'm being taken care of.
I feel like it's not just a one-way street.
I gotta prove myself to be a wife first.
I feel like we could work together because that's what it's about.
If I do choose to be in a relationship, can he show me that he want to take care of me?
Can I show him that I want to take care of him?
I definitely agree with you.
Yeah, maybe that's just.
Yeah.
Do you guys agree?
Yeah.
Okay, well, surprising.
Giselle, what about you?
I don't really have any issues with what he said in the video.
I mean, comparing it to a robot is a bit silly, but I think he was trying to exaggerate how submissive he would want his woman.
Right.
Yeah.
I don't think he literally wants a robot.
Yeah.
The sentiment was there, but I just, it was a little bit more.
I think he could have warded it.
I think he was a thing one step too far.
He could have warded a bit better, but I think what he's saying is accurate, yes.
I think just one thing on this that I that occurred to me is, you know, I think with feminism and kind of the modern view on things, men are in a bit of a tough spot when it comes to leading and being dominant and women following and being submissive.
A lot of women want a guy to lead.
You know, how often do you see girls on dating apps?
For example, I don't know if you're on any dating apps, but you frequently say, at least I frequently see women saying they want a guy who's decisive.
They want a guy who plans the date, sets the date, sets the time, meet me here at this time, pick me up, all this stuff.
A lot of girls will say, I don't know where I want to eat.
They want a guy to make these sorts of decisions.
They like that leadership in men.
However, I think women, some women are struggling with this, like, when it comes to feminism and being told, like, basically, what's the term?
Basically being told, hey, you're a strong, independent woman, you don't need a little man.
But I think biologically, women want men to lead, but I think in today's society, I'm starting to repeat myself.
Sorry, guys.
It's like a lot of women want men to lead, but they don't want to follow.
Have you ever heard of a notion of a brat in BDSM?
Yeah, I've heard of that.
Right.
So what would you within the confines of BDSM?
in the question like the question you were asking well I don't think most people are not like don't play with BDSM so like well Brad okay so it is in the context of BDSM but it's actually described Okay, within the context of BDSM, I don't like brats.
No, no, no, but it describes like something psychological.
Like, you can take it outside of the sexual connotation alone.
So basically, what it talks about is like women, specifically, mostly, that do want a man they could follow, but they don't want that man to, like, they don't want to give in.
They want the man to fight.
Because how do we check that they're a strong leader otherwise, you know what I mean?
So if I like, I want my man to be dominant, but I don't want to just submit.
I would want him to make me submit so that I understand that I can.
Like, this is the type of dominant man.
I think we're talking about the concept of conditional femininity, where a woman wants a man to come along, and if he's the right man, he exhibits his dominance, and then he'll magically unlock her femininity, you know, and then she could fall into her feminine traits, basically.
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I don't know, I'm not sure the Cambodian thing next week, the three amigos.
Who's the raw dogs?
Not sure.
Thank you, man.
Really appreciate the support.
Final thing, if you guys want to continue, and then we're going to wrap.
Did you have a response to that at all?
I forgot what you said up.
Oh, just the idea of just conditional femininity.
Basically, the idea that the man's masculine role is static.
The woman's feminine role is conditional.
Where if the right man comes along, basically, you know, man can't say, okay, I, you know, dress in women's clothing, and all of a sudden, one day when the right woman comes along, I'll unlock my masculinity and I'll exhibit that for you.
But women, it's almost like I asked this question, why is it when a woman doesn't have a man, she often has to take on a masculine role, but when a man doesn't have a woman, he doesn't necessarily have to take on a feminine role.
I would argue because in the society, like the masculine traits are the ones that get you further in a lot of things.
So men don't need the need to have that versus women if they want to be alone in the society.
They often would because Wouldn't that mean that masculinity is more essential for survival than femininity?
Yeah, from that perspective, yeah.
So why is masculinity labeled toxic?
I never said that.
I'm not saying you did, but why is our society, I mean, we're getting conflicting messages in our society because we want men to be the, you know, women want men to be like these hyper-masculine alpha males now, but then also masculinity is toxic, so I don't know.
I think you and I should get some time and have more conversations.
I would love your questions.
I would love to answer all of them, but I feel like we're making everybody, you know, irritated.
Okay, I know we can go down the rabbit hole.
Okay, let's wrap it up.
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