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March 7, 2023 - Whatever Podcast

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Dating Talk #60

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	Welcome to the whatever dating talk podcast.
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	Anyways, without that, excuse me, without further ado, after that thoroughly windy and, well, long-winded introduction, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
	Go ahead.
	Sure.
	I'm Amal Epinobi.
	I'm 22, and my occupation is a podcaster.
	I'm a right-of-center, politics, culture, current events, commentator.
	My name is Anaya.
	I'm 19, and I am unemployed.
	My name is Morgan Lux.
	I will be 27 next month.
	I do social media and OnlyFans for a living, but I also consult businesses and clients on how to grow their social media organically as well.
	My name is Maddie.
	I'm 19, and I study environmental studies at UC Santa Barbara.
	I'm Victoria.
	I'm 20.
	I study Monero University.
	I study finance.
	I'm Natasha.
	I'm 20, and I'm a content creator.
	Okay.
	And what's the, do you have a name for your podcast, right?
	Sure, yeah.
	Unapologetic live.
	You can find it anywhere.
	You can find it where?
	Anywhere.
	Anywhere.
	Anywhere on all podcast platforms.
	Okay, cool, cool, cool.
	Yeah, be sure to check that out, guys.
	So we're going to go around the table once more.
	Current relationship status, so single, situationship, relationship, and your longest relationship.
	Go ahead.
	I'm in a relationship currently, and my longest relationship was three years.
	Okay.
	I am unavailable, and my longest relationship was four years.
	You're unavailable.
	So situationship.
	Is it Nathan?
	Exposed.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So are you guys monogamous?
	We're talking.
	So we're just involved with each other.
	Emotionally.
	Huram!
	Are you exclusively talking?
	No.
	Okay.
	Is he seeing other girls?
	He has not, but he is allowed to.
	Oh, he's allowed to?
	Allowed by who?
	Like, he's able to.
	Like, I have no issue.
	Are you seeing other guys?
	No.
	Just him?
	Just him, if he wanted to, but he's not at the moment.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm engaged.
	My longest relationship is, well, my current one, which is a little over four years.
	Okay.
	How long have you been engaged?
	About a year.
	About a year.
	Congratulations.
	Thank you.
	Do you know, do you guys have a date yet for the marriage?
	The only reason why we do not, our house has flooded the past four times in, or four times the past 12 months.
	So a lot has been happening, and we're trying to just figure out life.
	But we feel like we're already married, so we might just elope eventually.
	We're just, when the timing's right, the timing's right.
	We're not rushing it.
	We're just trying to get things settled, I guess.
	Yeah.
	And so you do OnlyFans.
	Is he involved in the production of your OnlyFans?
	Is he in it?
	Does he take photos?
	He helps me film.
	He's in some of my videos without his face.
	He also helps me manage it and whatnot as well.
	He knows everything.
	We're very open about the whole thing.
	but I only, if I film that kind of stuff, it's only with him.
	Okay, so you do BG on, okay.
	With him?
	Yep.
	Okay, got it.
	So do you guys share the earnings?
	I mean, we feel like, like I said, we feel like we're already married, so all the income we both make is mutual income.
	Gotcha.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm single, and my longest relationship was about a year.
	Okay.
	I'm single.
	I don't think I've been legal relationship per se.
	Okay.
	Wait.
	You've never had a relationship?
	I don't, I don't, I would say this.
	i've been dating the same guy for like three months let's say but i don't we were not like we didn't have a conversation about whether that's a relationship You're currently seeing a guy.
	No, I'm not seeing anybody.
	Okay.
	But the longest period of time, you were seeing a guy for three months, but it never...
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Gotcha.
	Oh, just one thing.
	Just because we scuffed the camera angles for you here.
	I need you to kind of like, when we're over here on this camera, if you can be like kind of leaned back.
	Do you see what I mean?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, I should have mentioned that before the show.
	It slipped my mind.
	What about you?
	I'm single, and my longest relationship was about a year and a half.
	Okay, single.
	Okay, cool, cool, cool.
	So got a couple single people here.
	These three over here.
	You're not, you're sort of, you're in a situationship, basically.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But I don't see other people, so unavailable.
	Okay.
	And you're returning.
	Actually, we have three people returning.
	You're back, back, and back.
	So since the last show, any new developments?
	Because previously you said you were making $40,000 a month allegedly selling feet pics.
	Stop the cap!
	Not sure if I believe it, but.
	But now you're unemployed.
	So what happened to the booming feet pick business?
	I decided that I didn't want to do it anymore.
	Plus, Nathan works, and I take care of Nathan.
	Nathan works?
	Are you living with Nathan?
	No.
	I see him on the weekends.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Cool, cool, cool.
	So you three are single.
	You three are, you're engaged, your situationship, you've been dating a guy for a year, right?
	Over a year, yeah.
	Over a year.
	Do you think you guys are gonna, you know, get married?
	We live together.
	I don't know about marriage.
	I am not too keen on marriage.
	I think it's pretty symbolic, but I am a fan of long-term, dedicated relationships.
	I think kids is when marriage really happens.
	So do you not, you don't want to get married?
	Not necessarily.
	I don't see any reason to go and sign the paper other than for maybe taxes and healthcare purposes.
	Oh, interesting.
	But I'm not pressed about it.
	Because, I mean, you have your show with Prague or U, which is a, my understanding, it's a Christian conservative.
	So I would, but I'm sort of an outlier as I'm not religious about this at all.
	Oh, you're not religious?
	No, no, no.
	All right.
	Got it.
	Interesting.
	Okay, so you three that are single.
	What does that actually mean to be single?
	Like, I guess to.
	For you.
	We'll start with you.
	Yeah.
	To not be attached to anyone and not have like any, I guess, strings attached.
	Like, I would still say I'm single if I was in a situationship, but I wouldn't be like pursuing or guess acting like I'm single.
	Are you currently in a situationship?
	No.
	Okay, so no.
	Yeah, I just got out of a relationship two months ago.
	Two months ago.
	How long was that relationship?
	That was about a year.
	About a year.
	Has there been a rebound or just no rebound?
	I took some time for myself.
	Why did he dump you?
	He didn't dump me.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, we ended things because I couldn't trust him and we kept having fights about that.
	Why couldn't you trust him?
	Because I felt like he was cheating.
	Was he cheating?
	I don't have any evidence, but I still think so.
	Okay.
	Was he doing this thing where, you know, like he'd keep his phone down like this?
	No, but it was on Do Not Disturb all the time.
	So I just kind of.
	I had a gut feeling.
	Yeah.
	And I felt like I could trust that feeling.
	Did you cheat on him?
	No.
	Okay.
	So you broke it up off with him?
	Yeah.
	And then, well, it was complicated, but yeah, basically.
	No rebound?
	No.
	No rebound?
	No.
	Wait, who here's on the dating app?
	Just show of hands.
	Dating app?
	Any luck on the dating apps?
	Well, you were one of my first likes, I guess.
	I guess I had the app for like three days.
	I was like, it's like time to start.
	It's time.
	Yeah, it's time.
	But no, I haven't seen anyone from Hinge.
	No dates?
	No.
	Okay.
	By the way, just one thing, guys.
	I use dating apps to procure women for my show.
	I'm admitting it.
	It's the reverse finesse.
	The chicks, they got their Cash App and Venmo and OnlyFans and their dating apps.
	I'm a trailblazer.
	Okay.
	So, why are you shaking this?
	This is funny.
	Okay.
	So any prospects, though, from Hinge?
	Besides me, of course?
	I mean, I guess there's like some guys who are cute and I would consider going on a date with, but I kind of just think of it as a game.
	That's fucking school.
	Yo, Casey, thank you, man.
	Typhoon always keeping it real.
	Dude, Casey, thank you so much, man.
	Appreciate it.
	I see there's a question mark there after the keeping it real, though, so I think you're questioning my ability to keep it real.
	When keeping it real goes wrong.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	By the way, thank you for doing that through Streamlabs.
	Had you done that through YouTube, your donation would have only been, what is it?
	100.
	Hold on.
	It's been a while since I've done math.
	140?
	Because YouTube, yeah, it would have only been 140, but so thank you.
	By the way, just a reminder, guys, do your super chats, do your donations through Streamlabs because YouTube takes 30% of everything.
	So if you donate 100, they take 30.
	Thank you.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	I think you were telling us about how lonely you are.
	I'm kidding.
	Yeah, no, I just use, I don't know, I just, it's fun to go on, but I don't think I'm actually going to pursue anyone on it, maybe, but like.
	You're a sophomore or a junior at sophomore?
	Okay.
	So your relationship is y'all.
	Was he also a student at UCSB?
	Yeah, he graduated last year.
	Okay, so he was a senior last year.
	Okay.
	Did he move away or stuck around?
	No, we moved to LA.
	So it's been kind of long distance, or it was long distance.
	It was long distance.
	Medium distance relationship.
	Yeah, like medium distance relationships.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And how did you meet him?
	I met him, you know, Wildcat.
	Yeah, the bar?
	You're 19, though.
	Explain that one.
	Fake ID?
	Yeah, let's just say that.
	That's okay.
	That's all right.
	There's no police officers watching.
	I don't think.
	Anyways.
	So, okay, wildcat.
	Kind of embarrassing.
	Yeah, the shitty kitty.
	Okay.
	Is he a bartender there or just another patron?
	No, he's just another patron there.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	Met at the bar.
	Rock and roll.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	You're single.
	Really?
	Very single, apparently.
	Yeah.
	But like, come on.
	What?
	Come on.
	Come on, what?
	There's like a guy you're hooking up with.
	What's the situation?
	No, why would I?
	You're up in San Francisco, right?
	Yeah.
	There's some very successful people?
	Very successful software engineers with very fast words per minute.
	They are boring.
	I'm sorry.
	Let me ask.
	I want to ask the whole table this.
	Is it a turn on if a guy has good words per minute on the keyboard?
	Like, let's say it's like 200 words per minute.
	Is it.
	Sure.
	I guess it's an impressive skill.
	It's kind of hot, right?
	Sure.
	I don't really care about that.
	That's kind of nerdy.
	I mean, I don't.
	I mean, I like nerdy guys, so I think that's kind of hot.
	I also got, like, when guys operate machinery, like when a guy knows how to drive stick, it's a huge turn on.
	My fiancé knows how to drive stick shift, and it's kind of hot.
	I don't know.
	I'm talking like words per minute.
	Oh, I know, I know.
	Sorry, that's what I agreed with in the beginning.
	Yeah, so that's nerdy, and I like nerdy.
	So yeah, I agree.
	That's hot.
	And then I also included I like when they know how to operate machinery.
	So yeah, I like when guys know how to do things and have skills like that, nerdy machinery, anything, when they know how to cook.
	Fuck it.
	Oh, sorry.
	Okay.
	Oh, it's okay.
	Don't even trip.
	Like quick words per minute, what's up?
	Yeah, I haven't thought about it, but I guess.
	I mean, probably on the computer a lot working hard, but other than that, don't care.
	So the words per minute, not that it's not about the world's per minute.
	It's just personality-wise.
	Natasha, words per minute.
	But like if he can type an essay in like 10 minutes, come on.
	Yeah.
	Come on.
	You need that in your life.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	Okay, so speaking of words per minute, what if he's got like the micro?
	What if he's got micro, like, you know, video games and shit?
	Like, he's just like, he's fucking top guy, like League of Legends or StarCraft, and he's just like, he's got the fucking micro actions AP, what is it, APM?
	He's got like quick APM.
	So he's like sending some fucking Zerg over here.
	Nah, fuck it.
	Command and Conquer Generals.
	So he like puts all these rocket dudes in the Humvee, right?
	Boom, boom, boom.
	Rush.
	What do you think?
	Basically, if they're good at video games, yeah.
	No, like essentially, yes, sort of.
	It's like, okay, here's the thing: it's USA versus GLA.
	So he's like, boom, he puts a bunch of those rock men in the Humvee, rushes the bass.
	And the GLA is like, oh, he's got a technical, but the technical's messed up.
	Is that a turn-on?
	Is it a turn-on?
	Nope.
	Gonna go out on a strong limb and say no on that one.
	I think he kind of lost me there, I'm not gonna lie.
	But like, if they're technical and they know what they're doing, sure.
	I don't know the don't know if I fully understood the rest of that, though.
	I'm gonna be honest.
	Yeah, we'll come back to the single thing.
	One more question on this.
	Eric, can you just put the volume to 50 really quick?
	Okay, all right.
	Okay, so he's in a top North American rating guild.
	This is like picture your perfect man.
	He's in the top North American raiding guild in World of Warcraft, the critically acclaimed MMO RPG by Blizzard Entertainment.
	And he's in the top guild.
	They're like hardcore raiders.
	Yo, they're in Molten Core, BWL.
	They clear that shit in 30 minutes.
	They get all the world bosses.
	They get Azergos and Ashara.
	They get Lord Kazakh and the Blasted Lands every time.
	So they're getting all the world boss loot.
	and he's a pumper like he's a dps parser like are you guys is that a turn on Like, are you more attracted to him because of that?
	The amount of time that man is spending on the computer would be very, very concerning.
	I used to date a guy who played World of Warcraft, League of Legends, and he spent like 10 hours a day on the computer.
	So no for me.
	Sounds like a Chad.
	Yeah.
	Something like that.
	What a legend.
	Ooh, voice crack.
	What games did he play?
	League of Legends.
	League of Legends.
	I think World of Warcraft, Valorant.
	A lot of different, a lot of different stuff he had going on.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	Escape from Tarkov.
	What about you?
	Is that- you're down for the- I have no comment.
	I don't.
	I'm mad at this one.
	Pass.
	I think it's kind of hot.
	Yeah, I do.
	Okay.
	Yeah, if he comes with the whole package too and like is a decent guy, because there's gamers that are that good, but they're also douchebags as well.
	So if you're a decent guy and you're really good, yeah, it's kind of hot.
	And then you're streaming on top of it, and you're making a ton of money because you're that good.
	Fuck it.
	Is that hot?
	Like, would you date a Chad gamer?
	Probably not.
	Like a casual 10 hours a day gaming?
	No, yeah, no.
	Sorry, that's a no for me.
	No go.
	Okay.
	What about?
	No for me.
	Only if he's good.
	Only.
	Oh, okay.
	Only if he's good.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay, I'm being weird tonight.
	All right.
	You are.
	You very.
	Okay.
	So very single.
	Yeah.
	When was the last time you had like a partner or something?
	What do you mean by partner?
	Hookup, boyfriend, partner.
	November last year.
	November of last year.
	November the 5th?
	Remember, remember?
	Hold on.
	Keep.
	Keep talking.
	You looking for a guy Fox mask over there?
	No, you're not.
	Like, not official relationship.
	How old are you?
	20.
	20?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	I'm sorry, guys.
	Was it worth this?
	I'm being cringe.
	can you boost it to 70 uh i don't know what i'd okay um so So just brutally single.
	Brutally single, exactly.
	Brutally single.
	Okay, Natasha, what about you?
	Yeah, very single.
	Very single.
	Very single.
	Didn't you make a mistake from last you told us?
	Yeah, I didn't talk about it on the pod, but I don't know.
	I was seeing a guy for like two months and it was just bad news.
	Bad news.
	Yeah.
	What is bad news?
	What did you do to him?
	No, I didn't do anything.
	Basically, the situation was I wanted something and he didn't tell me that he didn't, but the entire time he knew that he didn't, you know?
	So yeah.
	My feelings.
	Feelings got hurt.
	Was he ripped?
	No.
	I thought you like had a thing for.
	I went out of my normal type this time.
	Okay, I see.
	I see.
	Didn't do me well.
	okay um okay i was gonna ask one more world of warcraft question but i just no I should do it or I shouldn't.
	No.
	Just move on.
	Move on, Brian.
	Chat, we're going to let the chat decide.
	Chat, Carson, do you have the pop-out chat, by the way?
	I do not.
	Do you know how to do it?
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	One in the chat if you want me to ask the final World of Warcraft question.
	Two in the chat if I'm being cringe and I need to move on.
	Okay, Carson, to do the pop-out chat, you need to...
	Actually, I can see it on my end, I suppose.
	Hold on.
	I'll just do that on my end.
	Let's see here.
	We've got some ones, twos, twos and ones.
	Okay, let's move on.
	Maybe I'll do it later.
	Maybe I'll do it later.
	Okay, so I'm trying to see what our...
	Oh, okay, so when did that end, your situation, Chip?
	Like early December.
	Early December.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	So I want to go around the table on this.
	What is your most controversial dating take?
	I don't know that I have one.
	I'm pretty traditional as far as dating goes.
	I don't know that I have something super controversial.
	Maybe the marriage thing is controversial.
	Not wanting to be married.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I don't think that's controversial.
	You're kind of on the same wavelength with that.
	I'm not going to get married.
	Okay.
	Perhaps it's controversial because you work for a more conservative outlet in that way, but do they have any qualms with that?
	You maybe don't align with all their or they're just like, hey, do your thing, I've got free reign for the most of.
	Yeah yeah, that's sweet, that's sweet, okay.
	Do you have?
	What's your most controversial dating opinion?
	That women should teach themselves or learn to be less masculine and more feminine and that men should be less feminine and more masculine, such as, for example, women should focus more on family rather than work and be more family oriented, as well as taking care of their partner, like laundry cooking cleaning, things like that or at least, if they do work, then staying in a,
	in an environment that is more feminine than masculine, while the man provides financial support and such, and the woman focuses on the family and household.
	Weren't you selling your feet pics like a month ago for 40,000 years?
	Listen here, Brian.
	I have.
	My mind is open.
	I've been better actually, these past few weeks has.
	Has Nate put you on the right track?
	He has, he has.
	Yes okay, all right, so okay.
	Your most controversial dating take is, women need to be more feminine and men need to be more masculine.
	I suppose that's controversial in 2022.
	It's very controversial these days, very controversial.
	Does anyone have a response to her statement?
	I love that statement.
	I agree this is gonna be a very, I think, agreeable panel.
	Is anybody gonna disagree with her?
	Um, I kind of think you should do what you want and, if you like, if you're a woman or a man who like kind of like you know, like wants to be in that position and, like you know, be the stay-at-home mom and work as a dad, I think that's totally awesome.
	But if you don't want to do it, you definitely shouldn't, and everybody should get Nicholas Bailey super chatted, 99 Sense.
	Why no marriage?
	We can touch on that here once you finish your answer and then we'll.
	Yeah, I just kind of think you should be able to do what you want.
	If you want to do that, then that's great.
	That's awesome.
	Do it.
	But if you want to be a woman and have a career and not stay at home, you should also do that.
	Or if you want to have kids and also you could do both.
	Here's the thing with that though.
	Women who tend to work in more masculine environments carry on a lot of masculine traits.
	So eventually you're going to want to get married.
	Eventually you're going to want to have a boyfriend.
	And you're going to be in your 30s married to a man who is very feminine or he's going to be married to a woman who's very masculine to where it won't work out.
	So you know, you're going to go to work, you're going to be busy with your career, and then you have kids, and then your kids don't see you because you're too busy at work rather than taking care of them at home.
	So the only way for you to have a good marriage or relationship with a man is to hold down what you're supposed to hold down.
	Meaning you take care of the house, you take care of the kids.
	By all means, I mean, if you want to have a career and you can balance both, then go ahead.
	But it just means that while you're working in an environment that's very masculine, because most places that you work, they're owned by men.
	So the rules that you have to follow by are all made up by men, meaning you take on those masculine roles.
	And so when you go home, it's kind of harder for you to be more feminine in the household since you're so used to working in a masculine environment.
	And it kind of throws off the balance between you and your partner.
	I think that you can be feminine while working in a masculine, I guess, situation or job.
	Like the men that you should be working with.
	Have you ever worked in the masculine environment?
	We should probably define what a masculine environment is because that's a very subjective phrase.
	So what does that mean?
	Meaning that, like, so if you work at a nail salon, right?
	It's women.
	You know, it's, it's, it's most of the time nail salons or hair salons are ran by women.
	You're surrounded by other women and feminine energy.
	So when you are a CEO or a boss of a company, you hold all of these masculine traits because you are a leader.
	And the job of a man is to, you know, be the leader, be a problem solver.
	Girls go based off of emotions, while guys go based off of solving problems and, you know, working things out, building things.
	And while you're working in a masculine environment, they teach you, you know, do what you're told, things like this.
	When it comes to, like I said, the example with the nail salon, you work around women.
	All you hear is, you know, family, kids, things like that.
	When you work for a man, it's very different.
	I wouldn't include that.
	It should include a lot of, like, the environment should be high stakes.
	Like, it's money, you're dealing with a lot of projects like consolidating or real estate.
	Like, I worked, I had three bosses in their 40s, the guys who were like buying $20 million shopping centers.
	And the intensity there is insane.
	People are like literally making those deals every day.
	And you have to be like on their level.
	And it's very hard to keep up with that level of responsibility.
	Like, you have to be disciplined.
	You have to always know what you have to do today and tomorrow.
	It's like it's very, there's no place for emotion.
	There's no place, oh, I'm not feeling good today.
	Oh, I want to have a rest.
	Oh, I have my period, blah, blah, blah.
	Like nobody cares.
	They have millions of dollars being invested and they're going to not listen to you if you screw up.
	Even if you make a small mistake in an NDA, it's going to cost you your job.
	I feel like I grew up in an environment.
	Well, I'm from New York, so I feel like I grew up in an environment where there are men and women in both, and I know women who are very successful and work for top brands like Macy's and Party City and things like that, and they're working with CEOs, and you know, like I specifically know this one woman who's a very good mother, and she's very feminine, and she also is the breadwinner of her family.
	Is she married?
	Yes.
	For how long?
	They've been married.
	She was, she's almost 50, and they've been married since, I think she's about 23.
	Well, in cases like that, majority of the time, I mean, I'm not saying it's not possible.
	I'm not saying it's not something you shouldn't do.
	But her being so high up like that obviously takes time away from her kids.
	So generally, traditionally, the man works and the woman takes care of the family.
	And he is supposed to support.
	When you have a woman who is out here doing things that men should be doing, it knocks off the balance, like I said, between the both.
	Because it shouldn't be a competition between either two.
	Whether he works and she works, you both are taking time out of the home and away from the family and away from the kids.
	But it also depends on where you grew up, if you grew up with both of your parents, if you grew up with your siblings, things like that.
	Because obviously, if you're a girl who grew up without a dad, you don't know what you're supposed to look for in a man because, you know, your dad is supposed to be the supportive one for you.
	He's supposed to take care of the family.
	He's supposed to be the man of the house.
	He's supposed to be financially taking care of you and your mom and your sister.
	But if you grew up with no mom, then you don't have those feminine energies, I guess.
	Like you don't know how to cook, how to clean, how to do anything like that because you took on the role of being the mother to your siblings or anything like that.
	So I guess it really just depends, like your background, your family, and things like that.
	But like I said, by all means, you can go out and be a businesswoman, but just realize that when you take that role, that is originally supposed to be masculine.
	When it comes to owning businesses and such, and having people work below you and telling people what to do and how you want things done is originally, traditionally a man's job.
	So when you decide to get married, it's kind of gonna clash and I mean you could be right, there could be women that still have those feminine energies, but it's not the same and, like I said, it is a little bit harder.
	Um, I think I believe I saw Andrew Tate.
	He had said that it is close to simply impossible for a woman to do a man's job and come home and kind of take off that armor of masculinity and fall back into her feminine ways, because that's what she does for a living.
	So it looks like you wanted to come in.
	Yeah, I would just say there's always generalizations that we could put out based on gender and and traditional gender roles which we have sort of decided and brought about biologically and culturally, and there will always be exceptions to those rules as well.
	There will be women who run businesses or are ceos or are working in predominantly masculine environments, But it is important to acknowledge that those women are exceptions to the general nature of being feminine.
	Response, agree, disagree honestly.
	I feel like I'm kind of getting it's like one against the world here.
	So no, I mean, you're open.
	You're in your own opinion.
	Like I said, I believe you.
	I mean, she could be a great wife, a great mother, and still have her businesses.
	But at the end of the day, it does still take time away from her kids.
	She's going to raise them differently than how they should be traditionally.
	And not everyone, this generation is traditional.
	So.
	Yeah.
	Did you want to come in?
	Or did you have something to say?
	I was just going to say, I think it depends on the family.
	I think it depends on the situation.
	It depends on your life.
	And that's kind of where I'm going, where I started, like, you should do what you want to do despite what society says.
	And if you want to go to society, that's awesome.
	Do it.
	Yeah.
	Great.
	Are you wanting to have like a dual income?
	I assume.
	Do you want to get married at some point?
	Do you want to have kids?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I haven't really figured that.
	I haven't really figured that out yet, but I'll figure it out when I have to.
	But I mean, obviously now you're 19.
	You probably don't want to have kids now.
	But do you anticipate perhaps in your mid to late 20s that you want to have kids?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I think so.
	Okay.
	And when you do have kids, do you think, do you want to be stay at home?
	Do you want to work?
	I don't know.
	That really depends on my job.
	I'd probably take a couple years off while they're younger and then get back into the working scene when they're a little bit older.
	Sure.
	Hopefully I could have a job that would allow me to do that.
	And I would like to get the degree or the multiple degrees that I get in order to do that.
	Did you want to come in?
	No.
	I mean, I kind of agree with her, but I also agree with her.
	I don't know.
	It's very hard because personally I want to work and I also understand that I'm the kind of girl.
	I just wouldn't be able to sit and wait till like I can cook, I can clean, but I don't want to do that all my life.
	And I want to have kids and I want to have a family and I will have it and I will take some time to take care of them.
	But I don't want to forget about myself.
	I think the happy kid is based on a happy mother.
	And what makes me happy is my self-actualization.
	And until I reach that point where I would be happy with my position in my career, I will continue to pursue it.
	See, and like I said, children will always change a woman's perspective.
	Obviously, when you have kids, you go into fight or flight.
	You know, you're very defensive over your children.
	You want everything for your children.
	I find that a lot of people who grow up with people with parents that aren't together simply have a lot more problems when it comes to relationships or life skills in general.
	Being at home with your kids creates a better bond with them.
	Meaning, like, if you have your mom or your dad who've been there, you know, your whole life, they've been around, they ask you how your day was at school, they pick you up.
	All right, moving on.
	So we have soapboxing over here.
	All right, we got Nicholas Bailey.
	Thank for the 99.
	Why no marriage?
	So you said you don't want to get married.
	Why don't we start with you?
	Why don't you want to get married?
	For me, it's just the foundation of marriage is a religious one, and I'm not a particularly religious person.
	And as far as where religion or marriage applies today, it's pretty symbolic.
	It's a piece of paper and a trip to the courthouse.
	And I don't find it necessary.
	It may become necessary in life for taxes and healthcare and dealing with children and properties.
	But just foundationally, I don't think it's the most important thing.
	Real commitment comes from that relationship that you share with your partner, kids, communication, and what you've both decided is real.
	That piece of paper doesn't really do much, in my opinion.
	What about prenup?
	Prenup's in hell.
	Yeah, I'm not a fan of prenuptial agreements.
	So you think personally.
	Okay, so what happens if somebody cheats and like somebody wants to go away?
	And he decides he want to leave you.
	He won't want to see you anymore.
	He's just going to leave you with two kids.
	And what are you going to have left?
	Well, personally, I make money.
	So I'm going to have plenty of money to handle myself, and he makes plenty of money himself.
	And I realize that it's totally a situational thing.
	My situation permits that I don't need to be married and I don't need a prenuptial agreement in order to support myself in life.
	So I'm not worried.
	Sorry.
	You also don't necessarily need to do the whole courthouse license thing to be married and have a ceremony and do your own thing.
	I understand the whole religious side too.
	And for me and my fiancé, for example, we're not even sure if we're going to actually legally get married just because like the government honestly owns your marriage at that point and it's just a lot of technical crap.
	I don't know.
	We may though just because, yeah, it does kind of help with taxes and a lot of other stuff.
	I don't know.
	But regardless though, that's why he and I already kind of feel like we're married because it doesn't, the piece of paper doesn't necessarily matter either.
	But I do understand where you're coming from because it is a lot of like, I don't know, the government has control.
	The courts have control of your marriage.
	They basically own it at that point.
	And it's not really what marriage is about.
	It's about a union of two people, really.
	I 100% agree.
	The government involvement is very strange to me.
	But also, I do think the institution of marriage does allow you to safeguard yourself, say, if you need a prenup, and that's important for some women.
	So, yeah.
	You want to get married?
	Yes.
	What if your husband, or well, your future husband says, hey, I want a prenup?
	No problem.
	Oh, you're fine with it?
	Yeah.
	Oh, you're fine.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Because there's definitely some women who, if the topic of a prenup is broached, they're going to be like, oh, you don't think it's going to last?
	No, I think there's no guarantees in life.
	So I think it's more like a necessity rather than if I want it or not.
	What I've heard, and I think I'd like to get an attorney on to consult on this, but a divorce attorney, prenuptial agreements can get thrown out.
	So even if you do have a prenuptial agreement, I mean, I think Dr. Dre had a prenuptial agreement with his wife, and they were still able to pierce through it.
	So I don't know the total details of that, but they can definitely be thrown out.
	They're not bulletproof.
	And yeah, I just think marriage is an L in today's day and age.
	I mean, there's obviously the tradition component if you're religious, but when it comes to the government involvement and the potential financial ramifications of having to unwind a marriage, it's just, it does not make sense.
	So don't get married, guys.
	Don't do it.
	You do, but you could have a life partner, for example, but you just don't want, you don't need the government involved.
	Exactly right.
	Yep.
	And fully want the whole white picket fence.
	We are husband and wife, but I just don't feel the need to go and sign some paper that lets them know that we are.
	Yep.
	Also, by the way, guys, there's something called common law marriage.
	So in, oh, thank you, man.
	I appreciate it.
	Of course, man.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for the response.
	Well, hey, thank you for the big super chat, man.
	Appreciate it.
	If you want to do it through Streamlabs, I'll even be more appreciative.
	But thank you very much.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Nick.
	So, yeah, in certain states, there's something called common law marriage.
	And if you've been cohabitating with someone for a certain period of time, there might be, I think, some other components to it.
	But basically, the government will view you as essentially married, and you would still be on the hook for alimony.
	So you don't want to be on the hook?
	I don't want to be on the hook?
	Yeah, as a man.
	Well, I'm talking about common law marriage.
	Yeah, but you as a man will be on a hook if you will be married for a long time.
	Well, I don't think California is not a common law marriage state.
	No?
	No, it's not common law marriage.
	I don't know which ones are, but you may want to Google that, gentleman, if you are.
	What do you lose by getting married?
	What do you lose?
	Yeah, what do you lose?
	Everything.
	Not everything.
	Well, I feel like so much these days.
	Everyone I talk to that's married, even people that, even just like adults that I meet in my life, they're like, oh, by the way, don't get married.
	You're young now.
	Like, old man will tell you this, blah, blah, blah.
	I'm like, what do you lose?
	Money.
	Okay.
	That's the only concern.
	There's certainly, especially, you know, look, if you're in a 50-50 relationship, even then there can be, you know, there can be some, there can be a contentious divorce, and then you're spending, even if the money isn't going to your partner, there's a dispute and legal disputes are incredibly expensive.
	So there's that concern.
	Obviously, you have to pay the lawyer to, you know, go through the divorce.
	There's a time period.
	What do you lose?
	I mean, you lose the house.
	You lose half your shit.
	Look, alimony is kind of calculated based on how long you've been with the person.
	So it's not like you've been married for nine months and you're going to be totally financially wrecked, but like it's still going to be an L at the end of the day.
	So just above money.
	Yeah.
	And not having the government involved in your life because then you're in the court system.
	In the court system, there's an anti-male bias in the court system.
	Thank you, Martin.
	I'm an attorney, although not a divorce lawyer.
	It is a fact that prenups are more for asset and resource allocation, not precluding one party from their fair share.
	It's not like the movies at all.
	Yeah, I mean, I've heard some different things on the prenup thing.
	My understanding is the prenup can address assets prior to the start of the marriage.
	But I don't think it can address, you know, maybe I'm wrong on this too.
	If you guys made something together or you came into wealth after the marriage, I don't know if prenups can address that.
	But if you're coming into it already wealthy, perhaps, I don't know if you know anything more on this.
	No, I've never even considered, you know, not getting married as a form of, or marriage as a form of loss.
	I just view it as an unnecessary step in my life structure.
	So I'm not really focused on alimony or prenups or anything like that.
	All right.
	Yo, Martin, by the way, shoot me a DM on Instagram.
	And can you please confirm what kind of attorney you are?
	I want to guess you're a maritime law attorney, perhaps an aviation attorney.
	I think you might be a tree attorney.
	Do you guys know about tree law?
	That shit's crazy.
	Motherfuckers, not you guys, just motherfuckers think that trees aren't expensive.
	But you hear these disputes with neighbors, the neighbor cuts down a tree, and you got to replace the tree.
	That's like $100,000.
	That's a lot of money.
	So I think Marden is a tree lawyer, an arbor lawyer or something.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So did anyone else have any further thoughts on this whole marriage thing?
	I think I have a different perspective because I don't think we should live together before getting married.
	So that's why for me, it's like a different, it's a switch.
	You don't want to live with, honestly, I think even if you are married, like separate, separate houses.
	Yeah.
	preferably like a mansion maybe a castle yeah just like i'll see you once a week I mean, if you can afford a custom, I don't mind.
	Why would you want to get married if you're only going to see them once a week?
	There's no point.
	I mean, he doesn't really want to get married.
	That's a lot of the marriage.
	Just go over there.
	I'll be over here.
	I find it kind of odd, though, to be married, but then live separately.
	That's very strange.
	Okay, fine.
	You convinced me.
	Separate bedrooms.
	How about that?
	You know, I've heard that.
	My grandparents did that because my grandma snored too loud, so my grandpa had to sleep in the other bedroom.
	And so I've heard that.
	And there's times where I'm like, babe, I love you.
	But like, I really want the whole bed to myself.
	So I get that.
	But yeah, the whole separate house thing, that's weird.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	Honestly, separate.
	I need at least three counties between another country.
	That'd be good.
	All right.
	She's in the Philippines.
	I'm over here.
	Whatever it is.
	Okay.
	So just a couple quick stats on the marriage thing.
	50% of marriages end in divorce.
	80% of divorces are initiated by women.
	90%, if she's college educated, 90% of child support payments go from men to women.
	97% of alimony payments go from men to women.
	So I think marriage is a pretty big L for men, and they get absolutely crushed in the court system.
	And yeah, guys, don't get married.
	Okay, so most, I want to give everyone the chance on this.
	Actually, you know what?
	Before we continue on with that, I want us to quickly react to Natasha's makeup thing.
	We kind of brought it up the last time she was on, but we didn't really get to go do a deep dive into it.
	So just to give context, I posted this on TikTok and also on YouTube.
	It did pretty well on YouTube too.
	Natasha, if you don't know, she fervently hates makeup with a passion.
	In fact, she's actually a terrorist and wants to plan terrorist acts on cosmetic companies.
	FBI, open up.
	Okay, so I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding about that last part.
	But she does not like makeup, although she is wearing makeup tonight.
	So the clip went viral on TikTok, got 20 million views.
	I don't know.
	And it's a fairly tame video.
	And then I released in December, and then it's just been picking up steam.
	Something like 5,000 people have made, have used the original sound.
	Thank you, Carson.
	Oh, 4,800.
	Can you scroll down a little bit, Carson?
	And it's basically, so we'll watch the video.
	Keep scrolling, Carson, while I talk about this.
	So basically, she's just saying she doesn't like makeup.
	It's pretty fucking tame opinion.
	And then like all these makeup girls on TikTok, which is apparently almost 5,000, well, there's a ton, like did their makeup using her voiceover, which is kind of hilarious.
	So yeah, so why don't we go ahead and just watch it so people know what it is.
	And yeah, go ahead.
	I don't like makeup.
	I'm against makeup.
	I don't think it's good for you.
	Carson, is it at 70?
	I think they really need to be using it, honestly.
	I think it takes away.
	that's the problem makeup is it's capitalizing on women's insecurities when it's something that they can easily fix i think it takes away from a woman a woman's natural beauty and And also, it is so bad for you.
	Like, you think about how skin absorbs things.
	When you read the ingredients on a foundation bottle, what is in it?
	You can't even pronounce it.
	It's a bunch of crap that you're putting on your face.
	And that is in turn making your skin worse.
	So you have to keep buying more foundation to cover up what it's creating.
	I don't like makeup.
	Okay, so that's the video.
	Before we have Natasha give her take, we're going to have the girls react, give their thoughts.
	Go ahead.
	I think this is a totally fine take to have.
	It might not be something that I share necessarily.
	I do wear makeup, and I do recognize that a lot of when I personally put on makeup, it does have to do with insecurity and covering things up.
	So I know that I'm personally susceptible to that.
	And no, I'm not offended by what you said at all.
	That's your personal opinion.
	Be honest.
	So I asked you this actually before we started about what mascara you use.
	Yeah.
	Because, you know, you stated, I hate makeup.
	I think that it's bad for you.
	I think that it's awful.
	Seeing as, you know, I've actually seen your video on TikTok and I commented and I was talking shit.
	Because I had looked at your videos and it was like, you can clearly tell when you do wear mascara compared to when you don't.
	And your opinion being it's really bad for you, but you use something that literally goes around your eyes, which you would think is way worse than putting something just on your face, such as foundation, would be very hypocritical.
	I mean, I would understand if you were like, hey, I hate makeup and you absolutely just don't use makeup, then you know, that's fine.
	But also, saying that it just targets insecurities for women, maybe some, you know, like she said, sometimes she puts it on because she wants to cover something up.
	I think a lot of women use it as an art and it takes a lot of technique.
	And some people just do it for fun.
	And you're right.
	Like, when makeup first became a thing, people used it as, hey, like, I look ugly.
	Let me put some on.
	But me personally and a bunch of the ladies here who are wearing makeup probably are wearing it just because they like it, because it makes them feel good.
	And that shouldn't be something that should be hated on, especially because it's a normal thing.
	Everybody does it.
	What was the comment that you left?
	What did it say?
	I actually, I think I had made a comment how she was wearing mascara.
	I think it was just, I think it was like you're very hypocritical talking shit on women and talking down on women for wearing makeup when you're not.
	That's not what she did.
	That's not what she did.
	She was being critical of makeup.
	But saying that saying, hey, I don't like something, but doing it is very hypocritical.
	Like, it's like when women say one thing but mean another thing.
	You tell everybody, I am against it.
	It's really bad for you, but then you use it.
	Like I said, I would agree with you if you didn't use makeup whatsoever at all.
	I would just like to clarify that my sole purpose of saying that was mainly to just address that it is bad for you.
	And so that is why any makeup product that I buy, while I only use mascara, but anyone that I would buy and do ever buy are only organic, clean brands.
	So that's very important to me.
	But yeah, I could definitely see why it can be hypocritical and can be perceived that way.
	I think there is a big difference of only using mascara as opposed to like using the whole rundown, you know, like caking your face, using every product that they have out there, you know, as many girls do.
	And I don't blame them for that.
	I mostly just think that it is unfortunate that there are so many girls out there today that feel that they need to leave the house wearing makeup.
	I think that's not a problem with the women, but that is an ill in our society that they have been brainwashed to believe that they need that to be beautiful or to feel beautiful.
	It's not good.
	It's really not good.
	And I don't know.
	I just, I wish that there was a way to change that.
	Me saying that really wasn't a hit at women.
	It was just to like bring light to issues that I find are very important.
	And I agree with you clearing it up now.
	I think it just could have been worded differently in a way that was more just, yeah, makeup's not good for you.
	You should pay attention to the products you use.
	And it is sad that women, there are women out there who feel the need to have makeup on before they leave the house.
	So, like I said, it could have been worded differently or, you know, but I think a lot of people saw it and were like, damn.
	Don't walk it back, Natasha.
	No, I actually don't mind the way that I said it.
	I know that it was very blunt, but I think sometimes you have to be blunt for people to listen to you.
	For example, like, this is a bad example, but Andrew Tate, everything he ever said, if he didn't say it in the way that he said it, it would have never caught traction.
	He would have never become who he was, you know?
	And not that I was saying that to be like, I mean, Andrew Tate's kind of, you know, very rude and disrespectful, but he wasn't saying it to be that way.
	You don't think that way?
	No.
	I don't think that's what I think.
	He's like, Andrew Tate says things that it's all jokes, you know.
	Yeah, but even then, I feel like he has a good point on certain things.
	I feel like how you take it personally is on you, but he is very, he is an alpha male and that he teaches other men how to be rude and not to be pussy with my females.
	Wait, yo, quick question, but we're going to continue with the makeup thing.
	Andrew Tate gets, actually, let's say he doesn't even get released.
	Through one of his networks.
	Hold on.
	He invites you to Romania for a conjugal visit.
	Do you take it?
	Like, for fun or, like, to have a conversation?
	For fun, huh?
	Wait, what is it?
	Oh, no, no, not for sexual.
	Like, like I said, when I listen to his podcast or the things that he says, I know it's very contradictory.
	One eternity flavor.
	But no, no, not for, no.
	You would not do a conjugal visit.
	No.
	How about after he gets released?
	Not even.
	No.
	Come on.
	Andrew Tate slides into your DMs.
	No.
	Come on my yacht.
	No, I don't find him attractive and I don't care about materialistic items.
	Cool.
	Okay, so let's go back to the makeup thing.
	Do you have a reaction to the video?
	I do understand how some girls could take it, you know, take it to heart and take it to offense.
	I personally, I wear makeup, obviously.
	Her and I were actually having a conversation in the car.
	I would prefer if I had great skin, you know, and I felt comfortable being on social media, just being out without it.
	I dealt with acne ever since I was eight years old, got on Accutane.
	Now I don't really get breakouts, but I still have scarring and, you know, I get naturally red.
	So I feel, yeah, I feel comfortable with it on.
	I try not to wear it as much because it is terrible for you.
	But, you know, so is alcohol.
	So are a ton of things that we all do, vaping.
	You know, I personally don't vape anymore, but it's really about picking your poison because almost everything is toxic for you, even touching plastic.
	We can get into that, how much microplastics we have in our goddamn bodies.
	But yeah, it's really about picking your poison.
	And I also do find it at times an art and it is fun, but at times I also feel like I just want to cry because I feel like I have to put on makeup and I'm tired and I don't want to put on makeup, but I feel like if I don't, I'm going to be out and I'm going to feel insecure.
	And it's a massive insecurity issue.
	I will admit it.
	Again, I had acne since eight years old.
	It's going to be an insecurity issue for the rest of my life and I'm taking steps to better my skin and whatnot and I'm not trying to take over this whole conversation.
	But yeah, I don't know.
	I agree.
	I can see it from both sides, but I do see how makeup can be very damaging.
	But I'm glad it's here so I can feel better about going out.
	Do you have a reaction to the video?
	I think you're entitled to your opinion.
	Personally, I don't wear it on a day-to-day basis, but I think if people do, then they should.
	And that, like, again, like, you brought up a great point that it is bad for you, yes, but there are so many other things that like we do that are also bad for us.
	And I also think that, like, I personally don't wear it like all the time.
	I mean, I'm wearing it now, but like, I don't wear it all the time because you're right about like how it feeds into your insecurities.
	But I think it's fun to like, when you're like going out at night or something to like get ready.
	Like, personally, my favorite part of the night is like getting ready with my friends and like putting on makeup and stuff.
	So I think it can be fun.
	But I personally, I don't think like I do think that it does feed into insecurities.
	So I think kind of like if I don't know exactly what I'm trying to say, but I think that if you want to wear makeup or if you don't want to wear makeup, that's completely fine and that's up to you.
	And nobody should be judging you if you do.
	Yeah.
	No judgment.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I don't have a steak.
	Like.
	Yeah, you do.
	You were talking shit about it before the show.
	You were?
	No, I wasn't talking.
	I mean, I wasn't sure.
	Come on.
	What?
	Yeah, what was the guys sitting next to each other?
	I wear a makeup.
	Like, come on.
	You can obviously say what is my opinion about that.
	But I do it because I like how I look with it and without it, both.
	Right now I felt more comfortable wearing it.
	Maybe because it's my personal insecurity.
	Maybe because I wanted to look better than I am.
	I'm not ashamed to acknowledge that we all try to look better than we are.
	And makeup is one of the things.
	But I don't think there's any way to blame anybody for doing what they want.
	Okay.
	Tell us how you really feel.
	Someone got it.
	What?
	What?
	Before the show, you were like, I'm going to rip into her.
	That was me.
	No, that was...
	You said...
	No, that was...
	I was talking to her about it.
	And because I was like, that's the girl that made the fucking video.
	That's the girl, right?
	The girl that said we shouldn't wear makeup?
	I don't care.
	Wait, Natasha, your overall reaction.
	To their reactions?
	Or my mother?
	Do you have anything to add?
	Honestly, no.
	Have you gotten any hate messages into the mic?
	Yes.
	Yeah, I have.
	Any death threats?
	Not that I've seen.
	I stopped reading my comments a long time ago.
	You didn't get any?
	I still get hundreds a day.
	Death threats?
	Not that I saw.
	I wouldn't be surprised.
	I'm not going to lie.
	There was a lot in those comments.
	Over makeup.
	Hello?
	People are pretty crazy, honestly.
	Yeah.
	I think.
	So you were getting 100 a day.
	Hundreds.
	Yeah.
	Still.
	Still.
	DMs a day.
	Just comments.
	Because you're not even tagged.
	Like, you're not tagged in it.
	You have to investigate it.
	No, it's on my TikTok because I made a reaction to it.
	Oh, you reacted to it.
	Okay.
	That's where they're coming from.
	I see.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so you got a bunch of hate.
	Can you just double down and be even more toxic about makeup?
	Really?
	You want me to just go off?
	Yeah, just go off.
	Just do it.
	Oh, my God.
	You want me to say something?
	Okay.
	Yeah, what else you got?
	Say something about the long nails.
	Long nails.
	Yeah, what do you think about long-term?
	Long nails.
	Well, I'm not going to.
	Attack me.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Say something.
	How about I'm not about to be a gully here?
	That's not what I am.
	How about you say something about nails?
	What do you guys think?
	What do you have to say?
	What do you have to say?
	You brought it up.
	Come on, let's hear it.
	Because I got the longest nails here, so I'd love to hear it.
	It just, it scares me.
	I have an idea that they want to scratch my eyes away, like from the scary movies.
	And I think a lot of guys told me to turn off them.
	I don't want to say much here, but like.
	I mean.
	And I know that you don't do it for the guys.
	You do it only for yourself, only for your own self-fulfillment.
	But I'm just saying, we all try to be more likable and we all try to be approachable.
	That doesn't make you more purged.
	I don't.
	My nails are for me.
	And I mean, even then, Nathan doesn't have a problem with them.
	So, I get it though.
	I mean, I understand not a lot of women can have long nails, but what's your like, I mean, you're saying it's scary, but why are you doing it?
	Oh, I have great nails.
	I don't have any, I don't need to have fake nails to have long nails.
	Maybe that's why people want to like the same as a makeup, but I'm just saying for me, it's a scaring woman.
	The same was lashes.
	I'm scared.
	Okay, well, I'll wear my bold stripper lash all day, girlfriend.
	You don't need it.
	Oh, you're scary.
	You're scaring her.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	Just scaring.
	Yeah, you're scary.
	I know, I love my bold stripper lashes.
	People take shit.
	I really don't care.
	Are you side right now?
	What?
	Are you going to have like nightmares?
	Are you scared?
	No.
	It's like from those horror movies.
	Oh, for me, the lashes thing, too.
	Like, my eyes are just not exciting without them.
	I just like them personally.
	I don't need them.
	I don't mind.
	I just like it.
	It's fun.
	Same.
	Welcome to the.
	Falling apart.
	Welcome to the whatever studio.
	It's getting scary.
	Carson, can you try to put that back up?
	Chad Carson, try to line it lower, a little lower, a little lower.
	And then line it up against the edge of the sign from the god or something.
	Yeah, right at the corner.
	Perfect.
	How's that look?
	Beautiful.
	Just apply pressure.
	Well done.
	So much pressure.
	Hell yeah.
	Chad Carson, by the way.
	Wait, Carson.
	It's not saving right now.
	Just pre- Hold on.
	I'm coming to help you.
	Okay, you guys keep catfighting.
	I'm going to help Carson with that.
	Carson, just do like a little tricep flex just to.
	Holy f.
	So, so what do you mean by like men, men don't like it, or a lot of men aren't attracted to it.
	They find it attractive.
	Do you base your decisions off of what a man would like?
	No, I'm just saying.
	Because for me, like I said personally, the guy that I'm involved with, his dad did my nails.
	But you're not involved with him.
	I'm not getting my nails.
	So, I mean, I feel like it's the same thing with makeup.
	Like, if you want to wear it because it makes you feel good, then you know, it makes you feel good.
	But for me personally, like, I've always wanted to do nails or lashes.
	And it's not that I wear it because I'm insecure or whatever.
	I do it because I like it.
	I think nails are super cool just to see what other people can do, art-wise or crystal-wise.
	It's just super unique.
	And I've always been known for having like wild-ass designs on my nails.
	And they actually used to be longer and they used to be square.
	So I've actually died down a little bit.
	And I mean, she's got short nails.
	No, I have no problem with her nails.
	I'm curious.
	If you guys were dating a guy and let's pretend you all have long nails and he's like, girl, I really love you, but I don't like the nails.
	Could we get rid of them?
	Would you be getting rid of them?
	I mean, with the guy that I'm with now, if he was like, hey, I don't like them, then yeah.
	I mean, like I said, his dad did my nails.
	Okay, so if he didn't like it, then.
	Is that because you value his opinion?
	It's because we have a very good understanding with each other.
	And I do value his opinion because I am a representation of him.
	And so, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So you can get rid of him.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I would.
	Oh, yeah.
	So sorry.
	I also just want to say too, you can honestly tell when a girl is doing her nails and her makeup to get a guy's attention.
	You can also tell the difference when a girl is doing it for herself.
	She has a different kind of swagger, a different kind of style.
	Guys do like that.
	Guys like when girls take initiative and have confidence and have their own style.
	I've seen it so many times where I'm like out with guy friends and they see a girl and they're like, damn, she's hot.
	Like she has style.
	Like I like her nail.
	Like I like what she's got going on.
	And you can tell she's literally doing it for herself because she has a different kind of style.
	When girls are trying to do it for guys, erroneous.
	You said men like confident women?
	Yes.
	Like girls who take care of themselves.
	Like I had nails before I met him.
	What's the opposite of confident?
	Insecure.
	Give me an insecure chip.
	Well, actually, most women who are insecure about themselves and do makeup our nails for men are insecure women who do it for the attention of men.
	And a confident woman doesn't necessarily always have to have the nails in the makeup either.
	A confident woman could be just confident not wearing makeup and just men like confident women.
	Women where they have their own style.
	They do the whole getup or they don't do makeup at all and they're confident with it and they're confident just being like chill.
	Not that other women aren't chill, but yeah, confidence.
	Yes, men like confident women 100%.
	Victoria, do you want to talk more shit about nails?
	Anything else?
	Why would I do that?
	Anything else?
	Arronius.
	Holy shit.
	Oh my God.
	Brian.
	Oh my God.
	Get it together.
	That was.
	What do you, okay, from a male's perspective, how do you feel about acrylic nails?
	Acrylic nails?
	Nails.
	Like long nails.
	Honestly, red flag, not gonna lie.
	But is it something that like bothers you?
	Like if you were talking to a girl or you were dating her, would you be like, hey, like those gotta go?
	Like not necessarily like mine, but maybe like as short as hers or whatever.
	Honestly, like the thing is, the type of chicks that wear fake nails aren't interested in me.
	I'm gonna say it.
	They just don't fuck with me.
	Like, so it's not a problem.
	It just cancels itself.
	Never mind then.
	But because I don't know, I feel like I definitely prefer it.
	It's kind of, I don't like the very all the extra shit.
	Brian, what if she's not?
	I don't need a girl that wears makeup.
	What's up?
	Like crusty.
	I mean, like, what if she's got like crusty cuticles?
	Like, she doesn't get her nails on.
	She doesn't go like clean up her cuticles.
	She bites her nail nails.
	She has to do with maintenance and hygiene.
	I want a chick that's ready for a fucking zombie apocalypse.
	And that shit's going to fuck you up, man.
	Bro, I could fuck somebody up with these nails.
	Exactly.
	I could.
	100%.
	I could.
	100%.
	Make a closed fist.
	Close your fist.
	You don't need it.
	It also says that you don't work out because it's impossible to work out.
	I work out.
	It's impossible to do pool ops led.
	So I used to go to the gym when I had like long, square ass nails.
	Well, because now my time goes elsewhere.
	Where does it go?
	Feet pics?
	No, not anymore.
	Oh, oh, okay.
	Okay, so your question is on the acrylic nails thing.
	Look, people are free.
	You can do whatever you want.
	You want to wear it.
	That's fine.
	Me personally, I would prefer my girl not wearing it.
	Don't find it particularly attractive.
	And there's chicks that don't like pasty motherfuckers like me, so it's all good.
	It's all good.
	I do not like pasty motherfuckers.
	I'm pale as fuck.
	Check this shit out.
	Boom.
	Look at that.
	Why this fuck?
	Like, it's all good.
	We all got preferences.
	I just happen to not like caked on makeup and fake nails.
	And yeah.
	So, um, but keep talking shit about fake nails.
	Go ahead.
	No, I'm good.
	Okay, you're good.
	So we discussed it a lot.
	Agree or grit.
	English.
	Agree or disagree with the following statement.
	A man's face is his autobiography.
	A woman's face is her work of fiction.
	Agree or disagree.
	What is work of fiction in this context?
	So non-fiction would be like a thesaurus.
	Or like, yeah.
	Fiction is like Harry Potter.
	And you're basing that off of the makeup thing.
	Yeah.
	Makeup, plastic surgery.
	Like a woman's face being like a mask.
	Like, I got it.
	Real?
	Yeah, I mean.
	I see what you mean.
	Do you think it depends on the woman?
	Yeah, 100% agree.
	100%.
	I mean, also, too, like, again, women who wear makeup, we don't always wear makeup 24-7.
	I mean, if you're going to bed with makeup, you should probably not.
	I mean, you should probably take that shit off.
	I don't know.
	But, like, I don't know.
	Yeah, sometimes we wear it, sometimes we don't.
	Like, and if I'm around you and I don't wear it, then, yeah, that's who I really am.
	Like, I don't care.
	Now, going out into public, yeah, I'm just insecure about it again because I've had bad skin.
	But, like, when I'm around people that I love and I'm comfortable, I don't care.
	Like, it's that that's naturally me.
	Like, I'm around my fiancé all the time without makeup, and he loves me without makeup.
	He loves when I do it.
	He loves me without it.
	He doesn't care.
	He likes my nails.
	He likes when I don't do them.
	This is actually the first time I've had nails in, like, over a year, so it's funny that I came on the show with nails.
	But yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So I guess just my whole take on the whole makeup thing is, is that I believe that makeup is the most accepted lie in society.
	Yeah.
	Agreed.
	Very true.
	Agreed?
	Agree.
	Agree.
	What do you mean?
	Well, because I've had girls on, and I say, I'm not necessarily, well, I'm not necessarily saying that makeup is bad.
	Although I think I certainly believe that.
	But I'm not saying that.
	And I'll say that makeup is effectively you're lying about your appearance.
	Yeah.
	And they say it's not lying.
	But do you agree?
	I think plastic surgery is worse than makeup because you can take away the makeup.
	But makeup is a daily thing.
	Like some women never take off their makeup.
	You wanted to come in?
	Also, makeup enhances beauty that's already there.
	You can, if you're not symmetrical scientifically, if you're not symmetrical, you can only put so much makeup on and it's not going to make you look that much better.
	Symmetry is everything.
	It really is.
	Scientifically, attractiveness is based on symmetry.
	Have you seen what some of these women do with makeup?
	You got like 13-year-old girls out here with so much makeup on, they look like they're like 20.
	Oh, I agree.
	It's definitely scary.
	Carson, can you try to find that TikTok of that girl with no teeth who does a makeup transformation?
	No, but no teeth.
	Have you seen it, Carson?
	Just like search Google in another tab.
	Search for, hold on.
	Search Google for Korean girls?
	No teeth.
	They do makeup.
	Plastic surgery, too.
	They put tape on their face and they like put things in their nose and tape their face and stuff.
	Like Korean makeup is like, they're extreme.
	They put on like huge contacts, tape on their face.
	Okay, well, that's wild.
	And then they take it off, they take it off, and they look like a reconstruction.
	Yeah, I think personally, like a lot of, like you were saying about the Korean girls, like you can use makeup for fun and things like that, but most women use makeup to enhance their features.
	And when you take it off, you normally look very, very similar.
	Like I think I look almost exactly the same.
	I just Don't have as long as lashes or stuff like that, but it's I don't think it's a big change for most women.
	Does anybody want to remove their makeup?
	I got to.
	I'll do it.
	I got to joke it.
	I don't think I'm going to.
	I didn't think any of you would actually take me off on it.
	You actually want to remove your makeup?
	We'll remove it.
	Do I?
	All of you?
	Yeah.
	Shit, I don't know.
	Has this ever happened in the history of that?
	Ask the chat if they want us to.
	Yo, chat, should they take off their makeup?
	Yes.
	We'll do the rest of this.
	How about you know what?
	We'll save it.
	Maybe we'll do it a bit later on.
	What's that?
	I might need a mirror for the mascara.
	Yeah, that's too confusing.
	It's when you take off mascara.
	No, I can take off like this.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Carson, were you able to find it?
	I haven't seen this.
	I don't know if this is it.
	Here, let me see.
	TikTok, toothless makeup lady.
	Oh my God.
	TikTok?
	Oh, man.
	Toothless TikTok catfish goes viral.
	Oh, actually, I think this does kind of look like it.
	Like, she takes her T valve.
	Yeah, her dentures.
	It's a pretty good example here.
	I'll let her.
	Switch it over before.
	Make sure the audio is at 100.
	F11 Now this is not it Just let it play.
	You are chief, whackers, bunkers.
	I mean, play it again, play it again.
	One more time, one more time.
	What do you think, whacker, spunkus?
	So scary.
	Gail then.
	Oh.
	You raw chief whackers bunkus.
	Yeah, that's a pretty big difference, I reckon.
	That's that.
	You can close that out, Carson.
	That's not the one that I was thinking of.
	It's the same girl, but the other one's like way more noticeable.
	Yeah.
	So, okay, maybe we'll do the makeup removal later on in the show.
	Last thing on the makeup.
	So you're an environmental study.
	You do environmental studies.
	Do you want to do something related to that for your career?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	What do you want to do?
	Greenpeace?
	Not exactly sure yet, but I think I want to work for like corporate stuff.
	Like I don't want to do, I don't want to do field research.
	I kind of want to more go into corporate and either like ESG.
	Maybe, but I honestly haven't figured it all out yet.
	All I know is that I'm passionate about it and that I try my very best to be sustainable and to conserve.
	And I also, I haven't really done it yet, but I do want to teach like Gen Z and like younger generations how and like specifically our generations of like how to be more sustainable and like be more aware of all of our individual choices in a way that is like,
	you know, because I think a lot of things that people talk about to be like sustainable are just not easy or like affordable for a lot of college kids or like women or age.
	So I want to find ways to like currently right now I'm working on a project for school that's like about how to.
	Okay, do you believe in climate change?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Okay, show of hands.
	Who believes in climate change?
	Sure.
	Aren't you pregnant or you?
	I'm just thrown off the little.
	Do I think it's something that we need to all be hysterical about and the world's going to end in 12 years?
	Absolutely not.
	I don't think it's as catastrophic as it's been made out to be, but certainly climate change is.
	Everyone.
	Do you know what is climate change?
	Yes.
	What is that?
	Yes.
	So it's our basically a man-made problem where we are burning fossil fuels, releasing greenhouse gas, and we are essentially changing the climate and creating a man-made problem.
	Happens with heating and cooling, and eventually the Earth could become unlivable theoretically.
	So you care about that.
	I do care about that.
	But are you saying it's not that important?
	I'm saying it's not catastrophic, which means your life is not going to end anytime soon due to climate change.
	Should we take care of our earth and work to be sustainable?
	Absolutely, yes.
	The earth is very important.
	In the 70s, there were reports of heavy snowstorm blizzards, and it was talking about almost like how global warming, but like for snowstorms and blizzards, I honestly believe that the earth goes through cycles.
	And biometerias.
	It does.
	What was that?
	It's one of the theories that explains that there's different multiple tiers about what happens.
	Well, exactly.
	So like it, you know, this could be one of those things.
	Go ahead.
	I was going to say, I think in our generation, all of us will definitely be fine.
	I think the climate is slowly changing, but I think the climate is slowly changing and we'll be fine, but I think that future generations most likely won't be because of the climate or the environment.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	The reason I bring it up, you guys are probably wondering what the fuck are you talking about?
	I want to pose, make a proposal.
	So the environment, and I don't know, some of you stand really on this, but there's a lot of environmentalists, and sometimes I see them and they got like full face of makeup.
	And I'm like, well, okay.
	I think there's actions that you can take, or at least that's what some of them propose you ought to do at the individual level, which I don't think is really going to be what it's going to take to tackle environmental concerns.
	I think that comes down to corporations.
	That's another conversation.
	But people often say, well, you shouldn't drink from, you know, water bottles.
	I was actually on, I've told this anecdote a few times.
	I was on a date with a girl and she flipped out because I brought a water bottle with me.
	California, hello?
	Maybe she didn't like you.
	Probably that too.
	And no, she like tripped out that I brought a bottle of water with me.
	She's like, you shouldn't drink from balls of water because it's bad for the environment.
	So I noticed that she was wearing makeup and I was like, well, you shouldn't wear makeup because the cosmetic industry, blah, And I just, you know, it comes in plastic containers.
	The materials that are within the makeup are harvested in Sudan.
	And I don't know if it's Sudan.
	They're harvested in various countries and have to be shipped over.
	And then Mika, I think, I think it's called Micah or Mika.
	Micah.
	Micah, you know, there's these, it's basically child labor.
	Anyways, so my proposal is for all the environmentalists.
	No more makeup?
	Then no more cars for guys.
	No more makeup.
	Well, there's like a million, there's a million things we could all be doing right now to be more sustainable that none of us are doing.
	We're all wearing clothing right now, which takes tons and tons of water and resources and fossil fuels, and we're going to go drive home after this.
	So we could drive ourselves insane trying to worry about all the things.
	Well, yeah, and so I'm not necessarily in favor of saying, oh, we need to like really limit our individual behaviors.
	We should have, you know, stop using plastic utensils and that shit, like, or stop drinking from water bottles.
	But my position is if you have a group of people that are saying, it's so funny.
	Like, I'll see these people saying, oh, we need to, you know, stop using plastic straws and shit.
	And they've got fucking hair color.
	You know, they got pink hair and they have a full face of makeup.
	I'm like, that comes in a packaging and container.
	And then there's the products that are inside that that then seep into the water system.
	I'm like, shut the fuck up.
	Stop throwing stones from glass houses.
	It's essentially what everybody should do.
	Exactly.
	So, uh, well, that case, too, we should all stop driving cars, go all go electric.
	We should all stop taking planes.
	All these celebrities need to stop taking private jets.
	Private jets cause so many CO2 emissions, it's insane.
	There's, yeah, there's so many things that everybody should really stop doing, but are we all going to at once?
	Well, it's kind of like Leo, who's kind of a notable, Leonardo DiCaprio is a notable environmentalist, and he's going on yachts and taking private jets.
	And it's like, I mean, I'm not super well-versed in what his arguments are.
	I'm not sure if he's making an environmental argument of on an individual level, you need to limit your consumption, but I don't think private jets are the most environmental.
	I don't know, it's kind of a.
	Did you want to come in?
	Yeah, I just think that the point still stands that I think a lot of people like to virtue signal on the topic of climate change and tell other people what they should do while not addressing the stick that's literally stuck in their eye the entire time.
	And it feels good to me.
	It used to be called global cooling, then global warming, then climate change.
	It's completely political.
	It didn't stop the Obamas from purchasing waterfront property at $20 million.
	I'm also a real estate investor.
	Why are we not being warned as investors?
	Hey, Martin, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Yeah, very good point.
	Yeah, so I just think a lot of people are.
	Oh, beaten cheeks donated $100.
	Cheeks?
	Climate change sure happens, but in thousands, if not eons of years later, as a science professor, you want to be climate change children need to read a book on how the numerical sensors work within weather studies.
	Fuels naturally go back from Earth.
	Wow.
	Cheeks, thank you so much for the 100.
	I'm very impressed by your resume there.
	Not only do you own, I think it was 70 RBs on the East Coast, but you're also a science professor?
	Is that what he said?
	Wow.
	Cheeks, the beaten cheeks, the multi-talented super patron of the show.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, so did you want to.
	I will just say a final note.
	There's just a lot of hypocrisy surrounding climate change, and I think it's a hot button topic that people get revved up about, but there's so much to worry about in this life.
	So much.
	Okay, got it.
	We are going to get a couple super chats in here.
	So let's see.
	First off, we'll do this.
	Stiffler asked ladies to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
	Is anybody?
	Let me start with it.
	Anyone a ten?
	Victoria?
	Before we start.
	I was eight last time.
	I didn't ten this time.
	You know, I have to stick to the plan.
	Any here, we'll start with you.
	I would say in an eight.
	Okay.
	All right, here, we'll start here and then go around.
	Say seven?
	Yeah.
	Like an 8.5.
	Seven and a half.
	I don't know.
	I guess I'm being like trying to be modest too, because I feel like if I say an eight, everyone's going to be like, oh, yeah, she's a butterface.
	She wears so much makeup.
	Take off the makeup.
	I'm like, fine.
	If I take off the makeup, yeah, I'm probably a five, but I'm not with any of you, so it really doesn't matter.
	But yeah.
	Okay.
	So eight, I think.
	No, I was saying that to her.
	What about?
	Eight.
	Oh.
	Seven.
	Okay.
	All right.
	No tens tonight.
	What?
	No, they're not.
	Do you get a lot of girls who say they're tens?
	Yeah, we had just one girl.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm a ten.
	We get a lot.
	Okay, M1 Grand.
	Would any of the girls date a man who legally owned a firearm?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I don't know.
	You seem kind of maybe hesitant.
	Again, I am iffy about the whole topic, but I need to be educated more.
	Sure.
	I don't care.
	You don't care?
	So you would.
	I mean, I guess, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	All right.
	All right.
	Not much drama tonight.
	Yeah, tonight's unfortunately.
	Yeah, we had a couple people flake who I think would have been good, but sadly, I think we have a more based panel tonight.
	Okay, so we have Saul Saul Mos.
	Saul Mos.
	Thank you for the 50.
	What's up, everybody?
	How's everybody doing?
	Tuning in late, but was definitely excited for this one.
	Shout out to Amala.
	Amala.
	Sorry, I keep wanting to say Amala.
	Amala.
	Yeah.
	Amala.
	Big fan.
	Big fan.
	Hey, thank you, man.
	All right, we have that one came through.
	That one came through.
	We have Es Dolce 13.
	Thank you for the 50, man.
	Much appreciated.
	And then I don't know if any came in through.
	Yeah, we do have some.
	Carson, can you pull up the recent events for Streamlabs here?
	Sure.
	I've never done that before.
	It's one of the other tabs.
	It's already open.
	It's like a green icon.
	You should see it.
	Sweet.
	Can you mouse wheel?
	Wait, control mouse wheel up so it's a bit bigger.
	So I can see it.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	We have Christopher Fisher donated 50.
	Ladies, give up makeup or give up on social media.
	Oh, there's no question mark at the end there, but we'll do that one.
	Okay, let's do that.
	So would you rather give up makeup or give up social media?
	Either really, I mean, my work is through social media, so I guess I'll give up makeup for now and that'll be the choice.
	I already gave up social media, so makeup too.
	I mean, social media is my career, so I would give up makeup, you know, and just go more natural-faced, which I could work with too.
	But like, if I could give up both and live my life without social media as well, without that income, I would honestly give up both.
	Like, I'm sure.
	I'm totally fine with it.
	Yeah, I think social media is really toxic, but it's also like a great outlet to like speak your voice and have a voice, so I'd probably give up makeup.
	Social media, makeup.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Got it.
	All right.
	So we have a video to react to from, and I wanted to react.
	We reacted to it previously, but I wanted to get this table's take on it.
	Drew Afwallo.
	I don't know if I said that right.
	Are you guys familiar with her?
	Yeah.
	She's a pleasant woman.
	Carson, can you go ahead and pull that up?
	She reacted to one of my videos.
	Yeah, actually, you were there for that video.
	All right.
	So you think you're 10?
	Yeah.
	I think I'm gorgeous.
	I think I'm perfect.
	Listen, don't take this the wrong way.
	You're not a tenant.
	You're just laying on me.
	You're not a 10.
	Okay.
	That's just your opinion.
	All right.
	First of all, every time I feel like we stamp out a roach, aka a white man with a podcast like this, he contributes literally nothing.
	So we're going to continue watching the rest of it, but it's kind of interesting that if you listen to what she said, she said, stamp out another cockroach, aka a white man with a podcast.
	If you were to replace white men with any other group, so stamp out a cockroach, aka.
	I'll let your imagination do the work, but if you were to insert another group into there, whether it's a sex or ethnic group or whatever it may be, you would be canceled.
	You would be canceled.
	So my kind of reaction to that is hatred, misingery towards, well, hatred of, how do I want to, hatred of men, hatred of white people is just mainstream tolerated in society.
	So your reaction to that first segment of it.
	Yeah, I mean, it's so funny because as a society, we talk about how much we hate racism, but it's actually extremely socially acceptable so long as it's directed towards white people and specifically white males.
	And we're in this new era in the modern age where it's super trendy and fun to say that, but it's not cool.
	And Drew's real famous for that.
	I mean, I mean, Okay, I mean, shut up, Brian Dam.
	Anyways, I mean, I understand.
	I know that there's a lot of controversy between that, how people can make a lot of racist comments towards white people.
	But if she were to say that, if you were African American or you were Mexican or something, then people would be like, they would have way more hatred towards it than just you being white.
	And even then, you weren't even the only one to say anything.
	Not everyone on that panel that night was white.
	So she was just attacking you.
	So it's very controversial.
	And I think it should be brought to people's attention that white people are definitely put out there when it comes to us being racist towards them.
	Anybody else have a reaction?
	I do agree that it's not really fair.
	And also, I don't know too much about critical race theory, but what I've heard is that basically if you're born white, you are automatically racist.
	And so that's the projection.
	So I feel like that's why it's been socially acceptable for every for not everyone for people to take jabs at white people, white men.
	I don't think any of it's acceptable.
	Like everyone, we're just people.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I agree with what everybody else said.
	I don't really have a comment on this.
	I think she was responding with hatred to your hatred.
	It wasn't.
	It had nothing to do with his race.
	But nothing.
	No, it has nothing to do with his race.
	So obviously she's upset.
	She's free to feel upset about what I said.
	And I don't have an issue with that.
	Obviously, I'm being blunt with the girl.
	You know, I'm basically, she's saying she thinks she's a 10.
	In other words, putting herself, she thinks of herself as on par with the most beautiful women in the world.
	That's delusional.
	However, I would have no issue with her like roast.
	And she actually, we don't need to play the rest of it.
	She basically just like, oh, this guy looks like he sells Bibles.
	And like, she's like, this guy looks like a dwarf.
	But I don't make the claim that I think I'm a 10.
	I think I'm like a six.
	But she could have attacked, oh, like, this guy's a dickhead, blah, blah, blah.
	Fine, ad hominem, whatever.
	But it's interesting to me that in response to that segment from our dating podcast, she mentions, she has to bring in race to it.
	You know, it's just like.
	To attract the more audience, because imagine how many people were like, oh, yes, that's what happened.
	Like, it's a way to attract, to appear to bigger audience.
	Her audience is mostly women.
	Yeah, but like black women who probably think the same way.
	Some of you are.
	You're about to say some crazy shit.
	What?
	What do you mean?
	Oh, God.
	Torio.
	All right, finish your sentence.
	No, I was saying that it's a way, I don't think it's a correct way to say.
	And I don't like when people put like white, black, whatever.
	And I think it's incorrect to appear to things you can't control when you're born.
	It's something that you have, like, it's just wrong and it's diminishing.
	But at the same time, I'm just saying that the way she approached this response was to appear to the bigger audience.
	Because I was like, I had similar situations in my life where the African-American man was started to tell me that I was racist because I was not answering his question while he was being rude to me.
	So I was ignoring him and he said I'm racist because I was ignoring him.
	And I was in the same situation and I understand what it feels like, but it's just a way for people to connect with those kind of labels or stereotypes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Natasha, anything?
	I just think it's funny that her entire fan base, well, no, all of her content is based on hating men.
	And I will say that in some videos, it's like, I mean, she goes for videos where guys are being wrong and they're being disrespectful and rude to women, but I just think it's funny that her whole entire, you know, she's only famous because she hates guys and she makes fun of them.
	Word?
	Toxic.
	Definitely toxic.
	So, yeah, it's just kind of interesting that basically just hatred of white people seems to be mainstream acceptable in today's society.
	Anyways, that's totally unrelated to dating, so let's move on.
	Okay, so the original thing we were talking about was what's your most controversial dating take?
	I don't recall exactly where we left off.
	If you have one, you said something, if I recall.
	You already went.
	You maybe needed a bit more time to think of something.
	Do you have anything?
	I guess with the whole getting married part, taking the man's last name and having like my children take their last name as well, even though they're both of our children.
	Personally, like when my husband and I have kids, I personally would like them to have my last name.
	Lux is my real last name.
	I think it's a great last name.
	I feel like names are very important in the world and names also, if they're rememberable, it helps people remember you.
	And getting in the world is really not about what you know, but who you know and names get you remembered.
	I mean, obviously that's not all you need to be successful.
	But my name, Morgan Lux, people remember it.
	I don't know.
	It has definitely helped.
	Obviously, it hasn't created my entire success.
	I don't know.
	It's not that controversial, but it's just, I guess, an opinion I have.
	Okay, interesting.
	So are you going to hyphenate?
	Possibly.
	We haven't talked that much about it.
	I mean, he likes my last name too.
	And we've talked about our possible children names and whatnot with the last name Lux.
	And yeah, I mean, we could possibly could hyphenate it too.
	It's not that big of a deal to me.
	I think it would just be nice for them to have a rememberable name.
	Good names.
	Yeah, get you places.
	Okay.
	Not entirely, though, because I don't want this chat to be like, oh my god, that's not why.
	And it's like, no, that doesn't determine your entire success.
	That's not what I'm saying at all.
	Okay.
	So I want to give every just really show of hands.
	Who wants to have kids?
	Everybody.
	Okay.
	Some of you, though, don't want to get married, for example, you.
	So perhaps you're not going to change your name, but what are you going to do for your kids?
	Hyphenate or?
	They can have his name.
	My name is connected to my dad, who wasn't even around, so it doesn't even really make sense to carry on that last name.
	Okay, sure.
	What about you?
	Hyphenate?
	My kids will have their father's last name?
	I'm going to hyphenate, but I haven't thought about my kids.
	But I really like my last name.
	My last name's Stag.
	Stag.
	It goes well with things.
	I think it's cool.
	So it would be cool.
	But I'm fine with the traditional way as well.
	Sure.
	I don't care.
	I'd prefer them to have my husband's.
	Okay.
	And will you guys change your last names?
	Yeah.
	I'm going to hyphenate.
	Hyphenate.
	Hyphenate or you'll change?
	I would change.
	You would change.
	Okay, if you got married.
	Okay.
	The problem with hyphenation is if everybody hyphenated on a long enough timeline, after what, two, three, four generations, that's like 16 last names, son.
	It's true.
	You just.
	Okay, you go two, then you got then four, then eight, then sixteen.
	So hyphenation just doesn't work, right?
	You know?
	It ain't going to be.
	It's too extra.
	Too much.
	And then what happens if you're hyphenated and then you get married and they don't have a hyphen?
	Is it three?
	Does it replace one of them?
	Or do you just, you know?
	Scuffed.
	Okay.
	What do you mean?
	The traditional route is for the man to yeah, that is the traditional route.
	He is the man in the house.
	The kids have them.
	He gets the name.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Question for you.
	So you don't want to take your.
	You said you're going to get married, right?
	You're engaged.
	But you want to keep your last name.
	I will be keeping my last name in your house.
	And he's contemplating switching to your last name?
	Not necessarily, no.
	Okay.
	But for the kids?
	I mean, possibly.
	It's just a conversation we've had.
	It's not, if we ultimately decide for them to have his last name or hyphenate it, it really doesn't matter to me.
	I just think it might be kind of nice and or cool for them to carry on my last name just because Lux, it's short and it sounds great with a lot of names and it's rememberable.
	That's really it.
	I don't mind if they have his last name.
	Sure.
	It's not that big of a, it's really not that big of a deal.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it's not that big of a deal.
	Okay, got it.
	Would you question?
	Let's say there's an intruder, breaks into your house, boom.
	Do you want to deal with it?
	Or do you want your husband to deal with it?
	My husband.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Tradition.
	Tradition.
	I mean, again, it's not.
	It's really not that big of a big of a deal.
	Like we've, he and I have had conversations about it.
	It's just, it's, yeah.
	It's negotiable, I suppose, yeah.
	I mean, yeah, between him, he and I, we were having an open conversation about it.
	If he really felt strongly about it, then, like, I, you know, I would take his last name.
	If he really felt like, because I asked him if it would bother him, he said, no, like, you can have your last, like, you can keep your last name.
	Like, it's not that big of a deal.
	I'll say this, if I were to get married, which I have no intention of doing, if I were to get married and my wife was like, hey, listen, we're going to hyphenate.
	I'd be like, cool.
	However, when there's a home invasion, a break-in, you're going to go deal with that.
	What if she like only hyphenated her name and all the kids had your last name?
	Like if it was like.
	Well, it's more, I'm thinking of it more so in terms of the kids.
	Okay.
	You know?
	Okay.
	All right.
	I feel like it almost sounds like a insecure.
	Is it an insecurity issue?
	Is it just a dominance thing?
	Well, I'm just wondering, like, what the bother is.
	Because if you, if, like, let's say, not that you would be my husband, but like, no, I didn't, that sounded really bad.
	But like, let's say we're having a conversation.
	You wanted you.
	There it is.
	Hold on just a sec.
	We'll get to it.
	Thanks, Martin.
	Stag, are you an author?
	Because you are writing a book of bad ideas.
	Working mother, environmentalist.
	Hyphenate.
	Someone needs to introduce you to the gospel of anthropology.
	You're 19.
	You still have a chance.
	But the path you're on will only end in disenfranchisement.
	Oh, disenfranchisements.
	Are you prepared for the disenfranchisement?
	Yeah, I'm prepared for the disenfranchisement.
	Yo, Martin, thank you for the hundred man.
	Much appreciated.
	By the way, Martin, shoot me a DM on Instagram at whatever.
	Continue.
	Yeah, so I'm just curious, just because, again, like my fiancé and I, like, if he really wanted me to take his last name, I would.
	Like, I would respect that.
	That's all.
	Oh, okay.
	But so you said it's like it's insecure?
	No, I'm asking.
	Oh, is it?
	No, I'm asking.
	I'm not saying I'm not.
	Insecure?
	No, I'm asking, is it a dominance thing?
	Is it wanting to like?
	No, it's just like if you want like a 50-50, if you're kind of more like liberal, like more feminist, whatever, you want the 50-50, then I'm like, all right, cool.
	But like, when the burglar comes, you're going to have to kind of take care of it.
	I guess, yeah.
	And as far as equality.
	Well, equality, like men and women both work nowadays.
	Like if we wanted to go back to like quote-unquote how traditional used to be, like where the woman stays at home with the kids and cooks and cleans and the man brings in the income, you know, like hunter-gatherer type stuff.
	Like that's not really how it is always anymore.
	Well, I think we had, we still have that.
	We do.
	And up until the 50s, well, I mean, up until very recently, that was kind of the standard.
	We do.
	And traditions are just changing depending on every household.
	Things are different.
	But some people, some households have that kids, still carry that tradition.
	They either stay-at-home wives, there's stay-at-home dads.
	I guess my issue is like, I'm all for equality, right?
	But I don't like this buffet approach to equality where it's like, I like this, I like that, but don't really like that.
	Paying for the first date, nah, the guys can keep doing that or splitting the bill.
	I prefer the guy to keep paying for the dates.
	What else?
	I want the guy to still be able to protect me, still want that.
	So 50-50 is fine, but you want the benefits of equality, but not the corresponding responsibilities.
	But you also don't want responsibilities.
	You don't want to get married.
	You don't really care about that argument, right?
	Because you don't want to get married.
	Okay, well, that's specifically related to the hyphenation thing.
	But there are other expectations that you have in long-term relationships.
	So, and you can have, I suppose you can have kids out of wedlock, so it's not necessarily has to do with marriage.
	I suppose I, actually, you know, I could have kids, but not want to be married.
	So, and then what's that?
	Nice example.
	What do you mean?
	Exemplary kids.
	You mean if you want to have kids without getting married as an example for your kids, so they're probably going to do the same in their lives.
	I'm not following.
	I'm kind of saying that.
	She's saying it's a bad example to not be married and to have kids.
	Oh, it's because then they'll do the same thing.
	Oh.
	I mean, TikTok's kind of already doing that for me.
	Two-parent household isn't.
	I mean, I agree with you.
	I am not the piece of paper.
	So, kids growing up and looking up and seeing two parents is what's important.
	It's not necessarily mom and dad went to the courthouse and they signed that piece of paper.
	It's the fact that mom and dad are there.
	So I think that should be the industry standard as it pertains to children.
	Okay.
	Your most controversial dating take?
	I don't know.
	I don't think I really have.
	I mean, apparently M. Martin thinks I do.
	Let me see what your hinge prompts were.
	Hold on.
	Let me see what you wrote.
	Okay.
	So your fine was going to dates with guys who are like 14 years older than you are.
	Wait, what?
	Wait, who said they were in the game?
	No, you met with her on Hinge, right?
	Oh, no, we haven't dated.
	Yeah, but when I first invited, I finessed for the show.
	That's how he gets girls to come on.
	But like you mentioned, she's talking about the age settings that you have.
	Yeah.
	Well, when we first matched, it was like a few days into Hinge, and I didn't realize, like, I had like, for Hinge, there's like one section that like for dating, and it says, like, this is a deal breaker.
	And I didn't realize that, like, the deal breaker setting was off.
	But normally, no, I would not go for guys for 14.
	R.I.P.'s in the chat, boys.
	R.I.P.s in the chat.
	Okay, so I have your Hinge profile plugged up here.
	So unfortunately, we didn't take screenshots of these prompts, by the way.
	Good photo.
	Thank you.
	Good photo.
	Okay, so together, I'm going to read it here.
	Let's keep it here for now.
	Together, we could make up.
	Should I do it in a girl voice?
	Hold on.
	Wait, can you impersonate my voice, though?
	Try to do your voice?
	Yes.
	Okay, yeah, I got you.
	We got it.
	Together.
	We could make up fake, crazy life stories while talking to random people.
	When did I get a Southern accent?
	It started like as a deep, and then it became Southern here.
	I'll just do it Southern.
	Maybe like Southern Belt.
	Together, we could make up fake, crazy laugh stories.
	Hold on.
	Okay, let me just do this normal.
	Just do it normal.
	Crazy life stories while talking to random people at the bar.
	Okay, go.
	How do you want to be talking about this?
	Prompt says, make up fake, crazy life stories while talking to random people at the bar.
	Go.
	Do you want me to make up a fake crazy life story?
	All right.
	Okay, on this, we're on a date.
	We're talking to people.
	We're both in the circus.
	I'm an acrobat.
	You're a lion tamer.
	And we were in, I don't know, like Romania, and we're on tour, and we're touring the country.
	What?
	The whole point is to have fun.
	Okay.
	Brian, my hinge is kind of a joke.
	Here, hold on.
	Let me see the other ones.
	All right, you have, I want someone who is a dime that's top of the line.
	Cute face, slim waist.
	I did not say that.
	No, no, no, but you say, I want someone who is a dime that's top of the line.
	Yeah.
	You know that's from a song, right?
	Wait, you don't know that's part of a song lyric?
	What?
	I got it off of TikTok.
	Dime that's top of the line, cute face, thin waist, and a big behind.
	What song is that?
	Is that T-Pain or some shit?
	Flow rider?
	definitely heard it i just no i got Little John, I don't fucking know.
	Okay, this is part of it.
	It's a song lyric.
	And then you say, or a solid seven that will keep me laughing with a Costco card.
	I think, yeah, I think keeping me laughing.
	I date a guy if I think they're funny.
	And Costco is great samples.
	Okay.
	So.
	That's also kind of a joke.
	So these are just jokes.
	I don't really.
	They're kind of serious, though.
	I don't really take Hinge seriously.
	Like, I've never really wanted to meet somebody over online dating, but I think it's like getting out of a relationship.
	I think it's like fun to just kind of like spark an interest again.
	I haven't gone on a date with anybody from a dating app.
	Ever?
	Ever.
	How long have you been on Hinge?
	About two weeks.
	Two weeks.
	So you're just doing it for attention?
	A little bit, yeah.
	I appreciate your honesty.
	That's what a lot of people are on there just for some attention or validation or to waste time.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so.
	You get bored.
	You want to dime, top of the line.
	Solid seven will keep me laughing with a Costco card.
	Okay.
	That's funny.
	Do you value humor a lot in a partner?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Are you funny yourself?
	I think so.
	Make me laugh.
	Okay, maybe I'm not funny.
	I don't.
	What do you want?
	I'm putting the pressure on you.
	Yeah, you are.
	I'm kind of grilling you.
	You are.
	So, okay, let me get your last prompt here.
	Okay, we have, I'm convinced that I can fight anyone and win.
	Oh, wait, no, no, no, but you have to, you have to go.
	That's it.
	Yeah, but no, go to the end to the video.
	Oh, this is.
	Oh, damn.
	Hold on, let me see if I can hold it up to the car.
	Here, Carson, put it on the other camera.
	Oh, my God.
	It's all blurry.
	She's just fucking someone up, and what is that?
	Yeah, that's you getting all...
	Okay, so you're...
	Oh, it was a joke.
	Well, it's a joke because then guys come into the chat with.
	I don't think that you can, like, you know, like.
	You're like throwing it works well.
	So you can't actually fight anyone and win.
	No.
	Does it look like it there?
	No, you got piled drops.
	Yeah.
	To be fair.
	This guy has a great mullet, though.
	He does.
	To be fair, I didn't know that he was a wrestler before, but we live and we learn.
	Yeah.
	Are you okay after that?
	It looked intense.
	I was fine.
	Okay.
	It was a bald pit or some shit.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so who here's on the dating app?
	Are you guys on dating apps?
	Because you guys aren't.
	Natasha's on the dating app.
	What about you?
	No.
	No.
	You sound like a Velociraptor right there.
	I'm busy.
	I don't have time for that.
	You're too busy.
	Okay, you're on the dating app.
	Natasha, which one are you on?
	Hinge, Tinder, Christian Mingle?
	Christian Mingle.
	Just Hinge.
	Is that where you met your boyfriend?
	No, I met him at a bar.
	Oh, good times.
	Yeah, good times.
	Good times.
	By the way, can you do a tricep flex so we can see the tat?
	Can I do a good job?
	Oh, shit.
	Do you do push-ups or what?
	What's up?
	I work out.
	I go to the gym.
	Yeah, that's a sick tat, though.
	Very cool tat.
	Very cool tattoo.
	Okay, so your most controversial dating take was what?
	Did you say it?
	I don't think I, I don't think.
	How did we get onto your hinge?
	I don't know.
	I'm all over the place.
	Well, because you were asking for my most controversial.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I'm very much like people should do what they want to do and if somebody has a problem with that, then like F them like it's your life, do what you want to do.
	So okay yeah, was there domestic violence in your past relationship?
	No, because you said you want to fight everyone.
	No, you said I think I can fight everyone win.
	Okay, your most controversial dating.
	Take I think I said it already like yeah, I said that I don't think people should live together before marriage, but if only if you want to get married.
	So I see okay, I don't know if this is controversial or not, but I think that girl, I think that people shouldn't keep rosters or like be seeing multiple people at a time.
	I feel like a lot of people do that these days.
	That's the only way I think it might be controversial or something.
	Yeah, I feel like at that point it's not overly serious.
	Or they're into polygamy, which I've been in like a polyamorous relationship with my fiancé and I were dating another girl for a little while, but it wasn't.
	It was kind of one of those things where we we, we all love each other and but we we, all three of us knew at the end of the day, like we were all just like having fun.
	We all love each other, but like we, we all knew that it was my fiancé and I at the end of at the end of the day and she was 100% fine with that, like she had no intention of trying to all three of us be married and all be together.
	You know um, but yeah I, I don't know if I could have done a relationship like that with anybody else.
	It was a very special case with her.
	Yeah, it was an interesting dynamic for a little bit, but other than that, I don't know how I feel about polygamy.
	It's an interesting topic.
	Did you struggle with jealousy at all during that time?
	Or was it?
	No, just clean slate?
	No, it was clean slate.
	We were all very open about it and I could see how somebody would struggle with jealousy with that.
	But again, it was a very special case with this girl and her and I have a lot of trust in each other and yeah, and I was the one that initiated it.
	Yeah like, yeah.
	By the way guys, there's 3500 of you watching this live.
	So please guys, like the video.
	Let's see if we can get us to 2,000 likes.
	2,000 likes on the video.
	Guys, drop a thumbs up 3.7.
	Oh yeah, let me do this one.
	Go ahead, let's just pull it up while we have it.
	A a Ron Martinez easy thing of the 50.
	Maddie, you read this one Maddie, if you're gonna tell a fake story, you gotta add some action to it.
	Like be a Lyman Tamer couple who lost all your lions betting on the World Cup, then won all of them back in a Morgan Freeman karaoke contest.
	That's a good one.
	You gotta like roll into it.
	You could like you.
	You can't just like give out your whole life story you.
	They have to be asking questions to be interested.
	That's the fun part.
	Okay, all right, this is a tough panel because I feel like everyone, everyone kind of, is based a little bit to some degree.
	So um, what can I say to piss all of you off, or some of you can?
	I asked what based means.
	Like, i'm sorry, like based in reality.
	Based, the opposite of based woke okay, I mean yeah, not like okay well, okay here, how about this?
	Should body count matter?
	Let's start with you me yep you um, that's a tough one.
	Uh I, For you know like, speaking to different guys, like I've met guys who like absolutely care a lot, but I've met guys who don't really care.
	So I think it's all.
	Like personally, I don't, I wouldn't really want to date a guy that has like, this huge body count.
	But it is normal, like in society and I'm not saying this is right or wrong, but it is normal for a guy to have a higher body count than the girl does.
	Can we ask what everybody else is like body count is first and then answer that question?
	Because I feel like that'd be very helpful.
	She's already shaking her head.
	I feel like that'd be very helpful for you know here why don't you start my body count is three.
	Yo stop stop the cap.
	Bro your body count is not three.
	On God it's three.
	It's not three.
	She said it before but she cats last show I said it last time.
	There's no way it's three.
	I'm sorry there's no way it's three.
	Your body count is not three.
	I think that when it comes to women that body count matters when it comes to men I don't think it matters.
	Why does it matter for women and not for men?
	Because here's the thing.
	Women are women.
	Like even ugly guys will want to fuck you.
	Even hot guys will want to fuck you because you know like you got something and a lot of men are gonna want it whether they like you or they don't.
	For men, it's a lot harder.
	Like, if you see an ugly guy, whether you're an ugly girl or a pretty girl, you're still going to, like, keep going.
	I just have to whisper something to her.
	I thought we weren't supposed to do that.
	Just say it.
	It's a name for these people.
	When it comes to men, like it's way harder for them to just like hook up with people.
	Like if you have a good-looking man, like yeah, he can go and sleep with a bunch of people, but no, no female is going to sleep with an ugly guy or a fat guy.
	But when it comes to girls.
	And Martin super chatted $100.
	Thank you.
	You like jokes?
	I've got you, Stag.
	Why did God create women?
	To get an easy way to move C-men from the bed to the toilet.
	And I can confirm, Brian is a master cat tamer.
	Cat tamer.
	Huh?
	Yo.
	Martin, thank you, man.
	I got something for you here.
	Hold on.
	That was good.
	See man?
	Seaman?
	I'm confused.
	I'm confused.
	Does anyone get the joke?
	I don't know what happened.
	You got it.
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah, I know that.
	Yeah, it's like nothing.
	You don't get the joke?
	Nobody?
	Could we see the comment?
	Yeah, what did I say?
	I wasn't even paying attention.
	It's fine.
	It's fine.
	Oh, yeah, pull it up.
	That's fine.
	Whatever.
	To get an easy way to move from the bed to the toilet.
	Think about intercourse.
	Yeah, but from bed to bed.
	To jacking.
	You have a boyfriend from Wi-Fi to bedjacking.
	There you go.
	I get it.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	But why am I a master cat tamer?
	I don't do that.
	That's a spicy thing we can talk about.
	Cat tamer?
	Master tames cats?
	I'm talking about conolingus.
	Anyways.
	Anyways.
	We'll talk about that later.
	Let's go back to body tames.
	It's more important for women.
	Like, I think like two men, no one wants to be with a girl that lets anybody and everybody fuck her.
	And when it comes to a guy, it is harder for them to have sex or get hookups.
	I agree, honestly.
	In some ways, what do you agree with?
	That it's harder for men.
	Yeah, I think that it's harder for men to sleep with women.
	I think that's definitely true.
	I think I could go out tonight and have sex if I wanted to.
	It doesn't mean that he's super hot, but I could.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, women can go out and just fuck anybody.
	It's harder for men.
	So I think for men, when they're looking for a partner, that it is important.
	But when it comes to me, like, I don't care.
	It's not important.
	Yeah, I think body count speaks a lot to what you value.
	And there will be guys who think a high body count is acceptable because they have the same values as you, and then there will be men who don't.
	I think it's also important to acknowledge the connections made through sex are vastly different for men and women.
	Women have a far greater emotional connection when doing sex with somebody else, whereas men can be far more frivolous and less connected when engaging in sex with another person.
	Agree.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Sex is an energy exchange.
	And there's like, you know, women produce a hormone when they have sex with partners and or when they have produce that same hormone when they give birth.
	So for women, the more people you do have sex with, it just spreads that out a lot.
	Well, it makes it harder to bond with people.
	It really does.
	Women who do have a higher body count have, and I've seen this in people that I know, they have a harder time maintaining significant relationships or relationships with significant others.
	Good lord, I can't talk.
	Yeah, it's scientifically proven.
	Over here, you guys don't have anything to add.
	I agree.
	Jesus.
	I'm sorry.
	We'll have to have you come back.
	I'll get some college feminists for you next time.
	My apologies.
	It's just kind of the way the cards fell, I guess.
	Natasha, any thoughts?
	I was just going to say, I think I also value a man who values their own body count as well.
	I find that to be very respectable, honestly.
	Agreed.
	Oh, you can pull that one back up, Carson.
	I'll get it right now.
	Yo, Martin, thank you for the 50.
	Appreciate all your support tonight, man.
	Brian Stagg told a story of you being a lion tamer, cat tamer.
	It's a double entendre.
	Et bien merci pour le français c'est tribien.
	Yeah, that just whooshed right over my fucking head.
	Typical, right?
	Thank you, though, man.
	Appreciate it.
	So, okay.
	Body count.
	Maybe if I can frame it.
	I don't know how I'm going to frame it in a way to get you all offended.
	Well, he brought up cats.
	So isn't the deal breaker if a guy won't go down on you, Natasha?
	Oh, God.
	Wow.
	I actually don't.
	Hold on.
	I have to think about that.
	Is it a deal breaker?
	I don't know.
	I find it odd that a man might not want to.
	I've never come across someone that didn't feel that.
	I've never come across someone that's felt that way, that they didn't want to do that.
	Actually, that's a lie.
	That's a dirty lie.
	I have.
	I'm so sorry.
	I actually have.
	And it was very odd.
	I'm not going to lie.
	It was super weird.
	It was weird.
	Yeah, it made it really.
	It didn't make it weird, but it was a bit different.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I don't have anything really to say about it.
	Kazakhstan.
	What's up?
	I don't think I really care.
	It's not my best favorite thing.
	Oh my God.
	Jesus Brian.
	God damn.
	Okay.
	What's up?
	What about you?
	I think if you're going down on them, then they should go down on you.
	That's it.
	Okay.
	They're not going down on you, then there's, ugh, sorry.
	If you're not going down on them, then they don't have to go down on you.
	But I think it's quality at that point.
	Okay.
	I have a response to that, but I want to let everyone go first.
	Go ahead.
	Deal breaker if the guy won't go down.
	Yeah, definitely.
	Like, I'm not going to, like, suck your dick for like 45 minutes if you're going to, like, not go down on me.
	45 minutes?
	God damn.
	It's happened.
	Traumatic.
	But yeah, like, I was dealing with a guy who it was a good, it felt like 45 minutes, and he just really didn't want to go down on me.
	And I was like, okay.
	And it's definitely not a pH balance issue because I've had men go down on me and it's just fine.
	So he really just, he just didn't like it, period.
	He told me he just didn't really like doing that with girls.
	And so he would a little bit, but then, yeah, I don't know.
	Yeah.
	It's his personal preference.
	So, okay, if a guy didn't want to do it, would you still go down on him, though?
	Yeah.
	I'd do.
	Chameleon.
	Okay.
	I'd do that, yeah.
	I think sex is really low on the priority board for me as far as a healthy relationship, so it would not be a deal breaker.
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	So you said that if, so you would almost be, would you be vindictive about it insofar as if the guy doesn't want to go down on me, then I'm not going to do it for you?
	No, I'd still like, I guess, do it, but I'd want to have like a converse.
	Sorry, I'd still, I guess, do it, but I'd want to have a conversation and be like, hey, what's up?
	Like, what's wrong?
	Like, why don't you want to, I guess?
	But I would also like preface the point that, like, I probably won't want to if you don't want to.
	Like, it would turn me off.
	It would turn you off?
	Yes.
	If a guy didn't want to go down on you.
	Okay.
	Would you kind of clown on him with your female friends?
	If he was like, this guy didn't want to do this.
	No.
	Okay.
	Maybe to like one person, but I'm not going to like go into a whole room and be like, oh my God, like he didn't want to go down on me.
	I think I'd like talk to it with like a close friend and be like, what do I do?
	But I'm not going to like, like they, they might clown on it or make fun of him, but I don't think I would.
	Okay.
	Well, as far as that goes, it's kind of like, I think about it in the reverse.
	Like if someone told you, well, if guys were like, oh, your girlfriend doesn't want to give BJs, like, I don't know.
	I feel like a lot of girls would be kind of like, oh, that's kind of like, it's my choice.
	Like, I don't want to do that, you know?
	Yeah, but I'd like to guy's point of like, if you are dating, like, people have sexual needs.
	I'm not saying go sleep with everybody, but like when you're in a relationship, like people have sexual needs.
	And like, I mean, if you don't want to do it, that's totally up to you and your partner.
	But like for me and a partner, that's like kind of what I partly want.
	Like that's part of it.
	And for like if some guy was like, oh, like, not like saying it in like a condescending way, but like if he, if he had a problem with that, like, I could see, I could understand.
	Sure.
	Yeah, I guess my whole thing on it is, is that if it's just like, I will not be in a relationship with someone who doesn't go down on me, that's totally fine.
	But I think when it gets to the point of, I otherwise like giving head on condition that I also receive it, that seems like a bit tit for tat to me.
	Whereas like there's certain, like, I think there's some things that your partner might like that maybe you don't.
	And Well, like, for example, if you're not to be crude, but if you're, if, say, the guy wants to have anal sex, maybe he doesn't want to get fucked in the ass.
	I'm just saying, maybe he doesn't want to get pegged, you know?
	But he wants to.
	Is this inappropriate?
	You're good.
	You're so.
	It is so interesting.
	It is a different scenario, though, if you want to put it that way, because a lot of guys don't want to experiment with that either because they don't want to be deemed as gay.
	Even if the G-spot is in the man's ass.
	So, I mean, it is.
	Talking about the prostate?
	Or what is it?
	The prostate.
	Is it the prostate?
	Yeah.
	So, like, if they fucked around with it, it would feel good.
	But a lot of men don't even want to try it because they're like, no, I'm not gay.
	Are you saying that you peg your boyfriend?
	Is that?
	No, not at all.
	Oh, my bad.
	Okay.
	No, not at all.
	No.
	Hell no.
	Oh, hell no.
	Hell no.
	I just, she seemed very descriptive with the G-Spot thing.
	No, no, it's a fact.
	Oh.
	It is, yeah.
	But no, I've never picked my girlfriend.
	I've never paid anyone.
	Never pegged anyone.
	I'll just say this.
	I haven't gone down on a girl since the Bush administration.
	So that's like.
	Can I ask why?
	2008.
	Why?
	I just don't really like it.
	Have you dated a girl since then?
	Yeah.
	I've had multiple long-term relationships since then.
	Look at her face.
	Actually, you said, I believe when we talked about this last time I was here, you had said that you just don't like that stuff on your face or whatever.
	But then you proceeded.
	But then you proceeded to smell that girl's armpit.
	That's totally irrelevant.
	What was your story?
	First off, about why you're about to give $500 to smell her.
	He did it twice.
	He did it.
	She's this OnlyFans chick and she stank.
	No, Brian said that he liked how she smelled.
	He said she smelled like a forest.
	What the fuck?
	That's what you said.
	I did not say I liked how she smelled.
	He got mad at me.
	He's like, stop bullying my forest girl.
	Wait, she gave me $500.
	She paid me $500 to smell her.
	Yeah, he verified after he said she liked it.
	A win is a win.
	A win is a win.
	So what was your statement on why you just don't like things like that on your face?
	I didn't say around yourself.
	First off, don't misperform me.
	Sir.
	Ma'am.
	Ah, those nails.
	Okay, what?
	Wait.
	Wait, huh?
	So, what was your question?
	So, I'm asking you what she said.
	Why?
	So, what?
	Stop.
	You know, Mikey, you don't like it, and that's a fine answer.
	Yeah, why don't you?
	Okay, there's a couple reasons.
	First off, I got some neck pain issues, you know, so it's tough.
	It's tough.
	So it's an age problem.
	I'm an old man, you know, I'm getting frail in my old age.
	So the neck pain.
	It's just here.
	Okay, there's a couple reasons.
	The neck pain.
	And then, look, first off, for sure, like, for any guy, I recommend at least you got to wait three months.
	You can't be doing that shit from the start because people be fucking people, a lot of people.
	So, like, my big thing is that in today's day and age, promiscuity is the norm.
	So you have to, especially here in California, you have to anticipate when you're going on the first date with a girl, or even when you eventually, whether you hook up on the first date, the second date, the third date, you have to go in, assuming that she's sleeping with another guy.
	So to me, that would be first off.
	I don't want to do anything with a girl.
	I don't even want to date a girl that's fucking another guy.
	Don't talk to me if you're fucking someone else.
	Fine.
	If you want to be sleeping around, go for it.
	Don't even talk to me if you're fucking another dude.
	That sounded scary.
	It's valid.
	It's valid.
	No, it's just like, I don't want to date someone.
	I don't want to kiss someone.
	I don't want to cuddle.
	I don't want to.
	Well, I don't go down, but that's one of the reasons why I don't.
	I don't want to have sex with someone who is sleeping with someone else.
	A lot of these guys in the space say, well, if she's kind of promiscuous, recreational use only.
	No, she is no use.
	Like, you don't, you don't even pursue a girl that's fucking another guy.
	I don't care if it's your first date.
	If she's fucking another guy, I have no interest.
	So the dating meta, as it is, you basically have to assume going in that she's sleeping with someone else.
	So for that reason, I don't want to go down on a girl because the thought of she fucked a dude last night without a rubber, he came inside her, and then I'm going to go down on her.
	Fuck that.
	And that is dating in 2023.
	So that's one of the chief reasons why I don't do it.
	And I want to make something clear.
	I don't have a double standard on this.
	Women can be equally disgusted at the thought of dating, hooking up with, performing fellatio on a man that fucked a chick yesterday.
	That could be repulsive.
	And I think for a lot of women it is if you put it, if you articulate it in that way.
	So to me, it's just, and look, I've been on dates with girls who, and it doesn't, I don't opt for a second date.
	I've been on dates with girls where they tell me, like, hey, I was on two dates this weekend.
	I've got three dates scheduled.
	And I'm like, cool, but like, find somebody else, you know?
	And here's the worst part.
	Like, you can even have an upfront, overt conversation about this.
	Be like, hey, are you seeing other people?
	They could still lie.
	Even if they tell you, hey, I'm not, I'm just talking to you.
	A lot of girls might not want to risk losing you by being honest and be like, yeah, I fucked someone yesterday.
	Men are going to do the same thing too.
	They're not going to be like, yeah, I just fucked someone earlier this afternoon.
	You know, they're not going to say that.
	Because maybe if they're real fucking G's, they might say it, but they realize like, probably going to lose the girl if I'm telling her I just fucked some other chick.
	So that's why I don't do it because trying to protect myself here.
	I see your point.
	I understand.
	Yeah.
	I mean, look.
	Would you wait?
	I do have a question though.
	Would you have like a problem if like a girl didn't want to go down on you?
	It's not like, honestly, it's not a big deal.
	Okay.
	I mean, head's great, but it's kind of a slight bummer, but it's not a deal breaker.
	And I respect that.
	But it would be.
	But I would sort of view it like if it was a vindictive thing.
	Like if she wanted it from a she otherwise does give head, but then doesn't because I don't, I personally dislike it.
	I, again, not a deal breaker.
	I would understand to a degree, but I think when it comes to sex, there's some things that your partner likes that maybe you don't.
	And instead of saying, well, because you don't like that, I'm not going to do this in as a sort of almost revenge in some sort of way.
	I think that's kind of a weird framework.
	But if a girl genuinely didn't like giving head, like a little bit of a bummer, but like not a deal breaker, I don't really care.
	And like you said, there's more important things when it comes to relationships than sex.
	If you were in a committed relationship and she obviously got STD tested and you knew she was completely clean, would that change it for you?
	Or do you still just, you're just like, no, I don't really enjoy it.
	It's not really for me.
	Is she on birth control?
	She could be if that was a deal breaker for you, if that would make you want to.
	Yeah, if not, say yes.
	We'll say yes.
	She'll say, yeah.
	Well, here's the secondary problem is if we're having sex and I'm just blasting.
	If you're just blasting.
	What did you say?
	Huh?
	Blasting.
	If I'm coming inside her.
	Okay.
	Then I'm like So it's like There's kind of no winning I suppose Well, if you did it before that, though.
	I hope you enjoy my honesty at the least.
	No, I do.
	So if you did it before you came inside her.
	It lingers.
	You know, it lingers.
	It doesn't linger for days.
	And I think it changes the pH balance a little bit.
	Well, it actually lasts up to two weeks, I'm pretty sure.
	Like, it's in your system for two weeks.
	This is a terrible conversation.
	Welcome to the whatever podcast.
	But, yeah, I mean, as far as, like, if she didn't like giving BJs, I don't know.
	It's not a big deal.
	I'd rather have a girl who just stopped reading my notes.
	No, I'm reading the comments.
	Oh, you're reading the comments.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So I just, I'd rather have a girl who I truly love.
	She truly loves me.
	And it doesn't matter if either she gives bad head or she doesn't give head at all.
	You know, she's as long as she's enthusiastic when it comes to sex.
	Like, to me, I don't, it's not a big, it's not a deal breaker.
	Let me get the soup chat while we're at it.
	Go ahead.
	Hold on.
	Actually, don't no overlap on this.
	Destined.
	Yo, thank you for that.
	Nick Moore with the Australian 80s.
	Wait, I think this is Kiwi now.
	On finding a serious committed relationship as a man within the LGBT community.
	Most guys within the dating world are overtly feminine and sexually promiscuous using apps just for sex thoughts.
	Wait, LGBT community.
	Like a gay relationship.
	Yeah.
	LGBT.
	Okay, so are you gay, Nick Moore?
	Most in the dating world are overly feminine.
	No, I'm not judging.
	I'm just asking if you're gay.
	Most guys within the dating world are overtly feminine.
	I mean, there's some masculine gay men, but and sexually promiscuous.
	That's true.
	I think that's definitely true in the gay community.
	But using apps for just sex thoughts.
	That's a tough one because I'm not gay, so I don't know.
	I don't.
	i'm not sure how to help you there um have you thought about is there like a passport bros movement for gay men Have you guys heard of the passport bros?
	Where it's basically men in Western countries, they're tired of the women in their home countries for whatever reason, and they're looking to go overseas or go to South America, go to Southeast Asia, Asia.
	Oh, Mike Davis.
	Good to see you, man.
	I never go down on women.
	That's some emasculating basis.
	Why the hell would I put my mouth on something that probably smells like the Sewer Plus STDs?
	That's why men created vibrators for you dumb bitches.
	I need one of those swimming nose clips if I ever.
	Okay, well, your penis probably looks like a tiny mushroom that probably needs to get checked.
	She probably have those like tiny little bumps on them and stuff.
	Whoa.
	Are you body shaming Mike Davis?
	I mean, he's body shaming all of us.
	So that's him, by the way.
	Oh, gosh.
	This is actually, wait, Carson, can you see?
	Yeah, look at that guy.
	He's pretty handsome, right?
	I'd also be a little concerned about the women that you're sleeping with if that is the aroma that you are.
	I also feel like Steve.
	Sorry.
	Continuing over.
	No, that was the end of my.
	Oh, I was just saying, I think that it's fine if you don't want to go down on women, but I think your reasons for it.
	Mike Davis's?
	Yeah, Mike Davis's reasons.
	Sorry, that mother psychologist are a little misogynistic, and you probably don't have a chance of going down on a girl, even if you wanted to.
	Mike Davis, shots fired, Mike Davis.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Could you hide that, Carson?
	Does it, you know, does it change anything for you guys?
	You said he probably doesn't get any.
	Right.
	Mike Davis.
	I wouldn't want to.
	Listen, Mike Davis, every fortnight, me and him, we have a long three-hour conversation on the phone.
	And I want to let you know that he owns 200 Burger King restaurants in North Carolina and other East Coast states.
	Does that change your opinion of this?
	Is this supposed to impress me?
	I think so.
	You guys actually call him?
	No.
	Yeah, we have powwows, me and Mike Davis.
	I love them.
	Burger King is the worst fast food restaurant chain, so no, that is another L. If you're going to own fast food restaurant chains, own something else other than a fucking Burger King, bro.
	Holy shit, shit.
	Oh, there we go.
	One of y'all said he was misogynistic.
	I did.
	What is your definition of misogynistic coming from a man?
	Oh.
	I guess.
	What did he say?
	That was just a soul towards women.
	Perhaps the sewage.
	The alga?
	The sewage and the just assuming that everyone had STDs.
	Closer, closer.
	Just assuming that everybody had STDs and the sewage.
	I think he said pretty rude stuff.
	I think that if you don't want to go down, that's fine.
	But his reasons were totally invalid.
	I mean, I think it really depends how you take it.
	Is that how you see women?
	I listen.
	So, like we mentioned earlier with body count, women can go and fuck anybody and everybody.
	And like we talked about earlier, women also, majority of the time, lie about what they're doing, who they're having fun with.
	Stop it.
	Get some help.
	Oh, sorry about that.
	Keep going.
	And things like that.
	So, I mean, I think that it's fair for men to not want to go down on a woman.
	Yo, Devin says here in the chat, Brian sets men up for failure.
	Stop being such a goofball, Brian.
	Huh?
	Because I don't want to go down on women, huh?
	I mean, look, some women, it's going to be a deal breaker for them.
	However, however, you have to be a man of principle in today's day and age.
	And as a man of principle, I will have you know, Devon.
	Is this a man or a woman?
	That's like a ambiguous, what's the term for it?
	A gender-neutral name there.
	I suppose a man could be a Devon.
	You can hide that.
	But what were we talking about?
	Sorry.
	Misogyny.
	Misogyny.
	If he doesn't want to go down, I agree with you what we were talking about before about the body count stuff.
	And if he doesn't want to go down, that's totally fine.
	But the reasons that Mike Davis said for not wanting to go down were very rude and uncalled for.
	He also called us dumb bitches, too, on top of that.
	Yeah, so I'm like, so it was rude.
	Like, nobody called out Mike Davis, like, hey, you're a fucking loser for owning Burger Kings, like, until you said something.
	Yeah, it's 200.
	Until you go to the bottom.
	No, that is a lot.
	But I'm like, if you're going to own a chain, own a better one.
	Burger King is making a resurrection.
	If he's bringing in the finances, then why does it matter?
	But don't you want to be treated right as well?
	Like, wouldn't you rather have somebody with a little bit less money and where you're very happy with them and they're treating you respectfully and you both love each other?
	Wait, what did you say?
	I'm saying all his family.
	Like, he could own 200 Burger Kings and bring in all this money, but you're still going to be disrespected.
	Like, wouldn't you rather have somebody who respects you and you both love each other and surely may not make as much money?
	I mean, sure, like, money is definitely something that's important for life, but.
	But you're talking about his attitude and what he said and what restaurants he owns and such.
	As if you know, like, if you don't want to be with a man like that, then don't be with a man like that.
	I don't think it really matters what restaurant he owns if you're not planning to be with him anyways.
	I wasn't talking about that.
	I was the one that was talking about that.
	Yeah, but overall, like he said what he said, and I mean, he's very, obviously the comments about dumb bitches is not nice.
	But as for going down on girls, he has every right to say that.
	Keep it.
	Come on, Mike Davis.
	We gotta keep it respectful.
	Gotta keep it respectful.
	But if it adds to the conversation, you know, in my three-hour weekly powwows with Mike Davis, he hasn't gone down on a girl since the Clinton administration.
	Does that change anything in the conversation?
	Clinton, 2000?
	No.
	That's like two decades plus.
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What were we talking about before that?
	I don't even remember.
	Someone got interrupted from the TTS.
	Someone was saying something.
	Was it you?
	We were talking about massages.
	We weren't talking about massages.
	Yeah.
	No, but we got over that when we.
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	I forgot what we were talking about.
	Okay.
	So I haven't been able to trigger you guys on that.
	We need some feminists on the show.
	I'm just saying we need some.
	Is anyone here a feminist?
	Does anyone identify as a feminist?
	Oh man, this is a tough one tonight.
	I don't know.
	Kind of.
	Well, I think that feminists kind of gets like conceived in the wrong way.
	I think being a feminist is more about equality rather than saying like, women are so much better than men.
	Like, no, I think feminists should all be equal.
	Equal in what sense?
	Like, you just all have like the same economically, politically, legally in the family.
	In what sense equal?
	I guess economic.
	I'm sorry, I can't speak.
	Economically and politically, in your family, I think that that's up to you.
	That's your personal life.
	But when it comes to more of society and like government and things like that, just yeah, equality.
	Actually, I remember what we were talking about.
	We were talking about body count.
	You wanted to know all the girls' body count.
	And you said yours was three, correct?
	Yeah.
	Again?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Three?
	Okay.
	Natasha, what's your body count?
	I don't speak on my body count.
	Okay.
	Victoria?
	I think I spoke about that already.
	Four?
	Four, okay.
	I'm not speaking on my body count.
	Range?
	Range?
	It's not high.
	Less than 10?
	Yeah.
	Less than five?
	It is five.
	I'm not going to just because I am a sex worker, but it's not even that I've had to sex with a lot of people, but I'm not even going to say it because I'm not about to get ripped apart.
	So it's a bit of a pair of pair.
	Definitely won't get ripped apart.
	I definitely would in this chat, I can tell you.
	No.
	Yeah.
	They're nice.
	No, I'm not.
	I can tell they're not like me right now, so it's all good.
	They're choir boys.
	They don't like any of us.
	It's okay.
	Wait, so you said you're a sex worker.
	That's a sort of nebulous term because that could mean anywhere from selling feet pics to being a prostitute on the street corner.
	Selling feet pics, I don't really consider sex work unless you're getting nude and selling feet pictures.
	Okay, how about all the way from taking doing OnlyFans solo content all the way to being a street walker?
	I do OnlyFans at home amateur content.
	Okay.
	So no prostitution?
	Never in my life.
	No.
	Because when I think sex worker, I know it's sort of this umbrella term, catch-all.
	I think whore, like prostitute, like literally a whore.
	As in someone who sells sex for money.
	I'm not using that in the derogatory sense, like literally a whore.
	So not a pro no prostitution.
	I've never been in an escort.
	I know people who do and who have.
	Have you done porn?
	Not mainstream, not prostitutes.
	Not like through like, you know, a company or anything like that.
	With your partner.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	At home.
	Sure.
	You said three, right?
	But so you mentioned you don't want to mention your body count because you're a sex worker.
	However, your body count, from what it sounds like, has not been inflated due to your sex work.
	Well, I make videos with other girls as well.
	Okay, I see what you're saying.
	I suppose I'm more so asking like perhaps your male body count.
	Omit.
	Still omit?
	Eight.
	Huh, okay.
	Three.
	And do you?
	Not sharing.
	No.
	Maybe that's my controversial take is like body count is for you to share with your partner.
	Sure.
	And that's it.
	Yeah.
	That's totally fine.
	What do you want, Brian?
	Three?
	Yes, Brian, three.
	Can you tell everyone why?
	Okay, your last partner.
	So Nathan was three.
	Okay.
	Body count's three.
	How did you meet Nathan?
	We matched on Hinge, and then we had a date planned, and I didn't show up, and then he invited me here.
	And then after that, we've kind of just been hanging out ever since.
	Okay, but you matched on Hinge.
	What day of the week was it?
	Do you remember?
	Yeah.
	No.
	Doesn't matter.
	Okay, it doesn't really matter.
	How many days elapsed from the point that you...
	Hold on, I'll come back to that.
	A scout in a Bradley super chatted $99.99.
	A muller is a queen.
	The rest need learn from her.
	Oh, queen.
	Thanks.
	I don't think you guys need to learn anything, but appreciate it.
	Okay, so you met up.
	By the way, a scout in a Bradley.
	Thank you for the super chat.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, so you went on, you matched with Nathan on Hinge.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	How many days elapsed from the point that you matched with him to when you met up with him?
	I think like a week and a half.
	10 days.
	Okay.
	And then you went over to his house at what hour of the night?
	It was, I think I got there at like 1:30.
	1:30 a.m.
	Okay.
	1:30 a.m.
	Okay.
	And you went, so you drove to his house?
	My friend drove me there.
	Your friend drove you.
	Male or female friend?
	Ex-male friend.
	A male friend.
	Yeah.
	At one in the morning.
	We were at a car meet and a car meet?
	I was under a car meet.
	Fast and the furious, Tokyo Drift.
	Yeah, we were at a car meet, and Nathan and Logan FaceTimed me and were like, hey, do you want to be on the podcast?
	Come here tonight.
	We'll drive tomorrow.
	And so because I was doing, because I was drinking, I couldn't drive.
	So my friend just drove me there.
	In his, what kind of car was it?
	Suzuki?
	It's like a BMW.
	Oh, BMW?
	Did it have a spoiler?
	Because this is relevant.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'm not friends with him in a minute.
	But he had a spoiler, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So it was a car meet, like Fast and Furious.
	Does anyone know that song from Tokyo Drift?
	Does anyone know that, like, famous.
	I thought it was called Tokyo Drug.
	I wonder if you know.
	Have you seen me, Toki Yo?
	Anybody?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Anyways, yeah, so they drove me.
	Whatever.
	If you see it, then you mean it, then you know you have to go.
	Fast and Furious.
	Drift!
	Fast and Furious!
	Oh, shit, Mike Davis!
	Davis Super Chatted $99.99.
	Oh, I sell burgers for a living.
	Nice, Davis.
	You bitches sell your roast beef for a living and for about the same price.
	So STF you.
	Blacktop can say what she wants, but if given the chance with a real man like myself, she'd dump that degraded cuck who lets another woman around.
	Your response to Mike Davis.
	Well, for one thing, I was the one who initiated the other woman, so, and we had a very long discussion about it.
	Yeah, it's all mutual.
	And the only reason why, like, I don't give a fuck.
	Yeah, it's honestly amazing that you have 200 like Burger King franchises.
	It really doesn't matter.
	I was honestly just digging at you because you called some bitches.
	Like, it's really not that serious.
	Like, if you don't want to take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
	There we go.
	Burger King kitchen.
	Starting a Burger King kitchen.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Mike Davis, for that.
	Polite super chat.
	Okay, so.
	Can anyone sing that song with me, by the way?
	No.
	Does anybody, you guys know it, though, right?
	Yes.
	Okay, so you were at a meet, and was it your male friend?
	He has a spoiler, apparently, on his BMW.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	He drove you how far to get to Nathan?
	Like an hour and a half.
	Okay, do you think this male friend of yours wants to sleep with you?
	Because I love them.
	All of them want to sleep with you.
	I was on a car group.
	I'm no longer a part of that group anymore because they are simps.
	you mean the guy they were all buying your feet pics is what you're saying no they just like they only you know how guys will be friends with girls because they just want to like hit it you They just, like, they think there's a chance when there really isn't, and you've made it very clear there isn't.
	Well, from last show, you were saying that you basically use the men for benefits.
	Not the kind of thing.
	And you don't sleep with them.
	Yeah.
	But, you know, they buy you things.
	But not anymore.
	I don't do that.
	They pay for.
	That's cash.
	I don't do it.
	No, I really don't.
	I've dropped all of it.
	I don't.
	I dropped my whole car group.
	I dropped everything.
	Okay.
	So you were with a guy who okay, a male friend of yours who clearly was he interested in you?
	This guy who drove you?
	Probably.
	He drove you an hour and 30 minutes at midnight, basically, to another man's house.
	That's Jesus Christ.
	That's one of the biggest L's I've heard in a while.
	Drove you.
	I'm going to revisit that.
	The poor spoiler simp, I'll call him.
	So he drove you an hour and a half to Nathan's house, who you matched with on Hinge.
	So you go to his house.
	We talked for about an hour and a half to two hours.
	That's not what happens.
	That is what happened.
	We talked and then we had text.
	Well, okay.
	It sounded like from what you said last time that the point, so you get, you arrive, 1.30, you arrive.
	It sounded like within 10 minutes, you guys were having sex.
	No, that's not what I said.
	Okay, what was the period of time that elapsed from the time you he had his shirt off, greeted you at the door?
	What was the period of time that elapsed from...
	Like an hour, an hour and a half.
	Until you had sex with him?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Hour and a half.
	Body count three?
	Yes.
	But you aren't dating him.
	We're like, how does it work?
	Are we dating?
	Yeah, like.
	So.
	That was their first time together.
	Okay, when it comes to, okay, when it, let me explain this because there's been a lot of hate, like, Instagram messages and everything.
	Me and Nathan are not just hooking up with each other.
	We hang out on the weekends.
	I go and see him.
	We go to car meets.
	We go out to eat.
	We're building an emotional connection with each other.
	He has opened up my mind.
	I'm sorry.
	Right?
	You can't build emotional connection after building a physical one.
	It's kind of nearly impossible to distinguish the two anymore.
	Oh, I just don't know.
	I'm not sure.
	I disagree with that.
	Because, so, like I said, me and him did have a conversation before we had sex.
	And originally, like, with Nathan and Logan, they go on these apps, they hook up with girls, whatever.
	But there's very few that they take seriously.
	So like with me and Nathan, as long as I do everything that I'm supposed to do, then...
	Wait, so you feel like you're entitled to sleep with him and hang out with him because you think you're selected for that.
	It's like a context contest for you.
	And you almost win it.
	You're kind of close to the final stage.
	No, there's times where we hang out and we don't have sex.
	It's not like an entitlement.
	Whenever he wants to do it, if we're feeling it, then we do it.
	But that's not the overall purpose of like what.
	about what do you want i i i like him I like him.
	I feel like he's, like I said, he's definitely opened up my eyes to a lot of things and how things should be.
	Like I said, I don't work.
	Do you want to be in a relationship with him?
	Eventually, yes.
	So it's a no-now.
	It's a no-right now?
	Yeah.
	Is it a yes or no?
	I think it's a simple question.
	I think that we've only known each other for a little bit.
	We're still meeting each other.
	How long?
	Like three or four weeks.
	So we're still getting to know each other.
	Would I be in a relationship with him right now?
	I would, yes.
	But, okay, this originally stemmed from, I don't doubt that you're in a relationship or something with him and it wasn't just a one-night stand.
	However, the circumstances surrounding your initial meeting with him call into question, I suppose, your claim that your body count is only three.
	Now, I'm not saying it's impossible that someone could go over to someone's house at 1.30 a.m. Sleep with them one to two hours later.
	I'm not saying it's impossible that you can have a low body count under those circumstances.
	However, you know, it doesn't really match up.
	I have been in two relationships before, like boyfriends.
	One was four years.
	The other one was about two weeks, but we were talking for like eight months.
	So I guess that doesn't really count.
	Do I need to do that?
	Are you going to do it?
	Should I do the Larry David?
	I mean, it's just.
	I don't know.
	I mean.
	Natasha.
	Okay.
	Can I just say, I would be less concerned about the body count and more concerned that this guy's kind of using you a little bit because it sounds like you're doing a lot of girlfriend activities as well as engaging in sexual intercourse with him.
	And he's keeping you there for that, but not giving you the title of being in a relationship with him.
	I mean, I could be wrong.
	Yeah.
	So I get that a lot about people just seeing it as like, oh, he's using her.
	Nathan's a great guy.
	I've gotten to know him.
	He pays for everything when we go out.
	He invites me out.
	I hang out with his family.
	Like, we have a good, we're building a good relationship with each other.
	It's just, it takes a little bit of time because from his past and from my past, there has obviously been a lot of brainwashing from social media and outliers in that sense.
	So I'm kind of learning from him and doing what?
	Well, I was going to ask, what, I want you to finish what you're saying.
	I want you to say what you're doing, but you said there's a lot of brainwashing and he's teaching you.
	What is he teaching you?
	Finish your thought and then tell me what he's teaching you.
	I forgot what the fuck I was going to say.
	He's teaching me like how things should be.
	Like when it comes to, you know, looking for the right guy to be in a relationship with and how he should be the provider and then I should be the caregiver in that sense.
	I have a question.
	Sorry.
	I have a question.
	Did he make you quit working?
	No.
	Not in a sense of like making me.
	I wanted to because that's how it should be.
	Because then it gives me more time to like cook him lunch.
	I have a wait.
	I have another question.
	Why are you doing this to a man that you're not even with?
	You're not even married.
	You shouldn't be with me.
	But that's the thing.
	It shouldn't matter about marriage.
	When you get married with someone, do you like automatically flip a switch and you're like, all right, now I'm going to start doing things that I shouldn't have to do.
	Well, no, but how long have you guys been together-ish?
	How long have you guys been in the situation?
	Like three or four weeks, I think, mom.
	I cannot, I don't judge you for it, but I just, I feel like that's a really weird situation, like from an outsider's perspective.
	Have you seen this TikTok video?
	Like, and it's been wired all the time, like how the guys know within like 10 seconds of meeting a girl whether they want to date her or not.
	Like, maybe not 10 seconds, but like a day or two.
	Because that's the truth.
	Because if I was how I was before I met Nathan, I would not be a choice for him to be someone he takes seriously.
	So you think the definition of relationship and love is that you have to change yourself to feed their expectation and perspective of somebody you want to be with.
	No, I think that it's up to you, but that's just for me, like in a traditional sense, that's how it should be.
	But if he's claiming to be a traditional man, why isn't he traditionally pursuing you and taking on that role of being your boyfriend and actually courting?
	That's what I'm, because it sounds sort of like a situation where he's getting all the benefits of training and teaching you these things and having you do them for him, which is honestly, I'll say, pretty great that he's getting you maybe to stop selling feed pics and doing something that could hurt you later on in life.
	But he's doing all that without giving you the title that you deserve having been completely familiar with.
	But I don't give him the title either.
	It's a work in progress.
	Like it takes time.
	You don't just start talking to, like, girls base everything off emotions, right?
	So obviously when you're talking to a guy, like if he gives you those things, right, he gives you the attention, he takes you out, like within, like, for most girls, in the beginning, you're like, dang, I really want to be with this guy already.
	Like, you know, and then whereas guys, like, it takes a little bit longer for them to be like, oh, hey, I want you, you know, things like that.
	So he's very patient.
	And there's been other situations in his past where he has done those things and been taken advantage of to the point to where now like he doesn't stand for mistakes.
	Like for me, like I said, like I did these things because it betters myself.
	I got off social media.
	I stopped hanging out with people of the opposite sex.
	I started taking care of myself and also taking care of him while he does the same thing for me.
	Like emotionally, he's there for me.
	Like I said, we go out and we do things.
	We go on dates.
	We have great conversations.
	We can debate and have honest opinions towards each other.
	But it is not one-sided.
	And I mean, I guess unless you're really there and you see it for yourself, then from the outside looking in, it could be like, hey, she's doing all these things, but he's not giving her that.
	But I don't expect him to be like, that's my girlfriend.
	Like, yes.
	He tells people like, yes, you know, like, I still hang out with her.
	We talk, things like that.
	But it's building up a good relationship with each other before just automatically saying, hey, we're boyfriend, girlfriend.
	So.
	I have a question.
	What's the difference between what you're doing now and being boyfriend and girlfriend?
	That is a good question.
	He's fucking other chicks.
	But even if we were dating, this generation is way too scared of commitment.
	Even if we were dating, he would be allowed to do those things.
	Be allowed to sleep with other people?
	Yes.
	okay like that's that's how why are you giving him girlfriend material like treatment like and being a good like as you'd say girlfriend if he's he's not a traditional man He's not your boyfriend.
	Because he does the boyfriend things.
	What boyfriends financially provides for me?
	He protects me.
	He makes sure I'm safe.
	Things like that.
	And that's how it is.
	That's how it is.
	I'm with you.
	But I mean, like I said, like, my role is to, you know, be the feminine one, do those things for him, while his role is to be masculine and do those things.
	How old is Nathan?
	19.
	He's 19.
	Oh my gosh.
	This is ridiculous.
	I just, I can't.
	I cannot even.
	It honestly does sound like you're getting so manipulative.
	That's, yeah, I was also going to say that in a respectful way.
	I feel like we're, well, everyone else really spoke.
	I think this is just like Andrew Tate type of 19-year-old.
	Like, hello.
	I feel like everyone here is trying to warn you that this situation is sending off red flags.
	Yo, Nate's my boy.
	I think he's on the comment.
	Yeah, he was on the show.
	Yo, Nate, he's a legend.
	But you said he's providing for you, but he's 19.
	What does he do?
	Like I said, like when we go out, like he, I've never had to pay for food or like gas or anything like that.
	Like when we go out, he provides the financial stability.
	Like what's your in-and-out order?
	I think a number two with no tomatoes and no onions.
	No onions?
	The fuck?
	Weirdo.
	Okay.
	But anyways, why do you guys see it as, I mean, if I'm happy and he's happy and we're like, ever since we have started doing this, I have not had, like, I have been perfectly fine.
	Like I said, like, I don't have to work if I don't want to, but he does give me the option and I give myself the option.
	Like, of course, I have the choice to work if I want to.
	And that's up to me.
	Let me say what I think everyone's thinking here.
	I think, and I'll get my take on this.
	I think that the girls probably, all the girls at the table think that you're brainwashed.
	That's perhaps, maybe, I don't know.
	Or being brainwashed.
	However, I think it's okay if you choose it and he chooses it, if that's what you've both negotiated and agreed on, to have a unilateral, open relationship.
	It's closed on your end, it's open on his.
	If you're okay with that, that's fine.
	I think most men, that's probably something that's most men can't pull that off, but would if they could, would they?
	Exactly.
	If most men could, they would.
	And this is the thing too about that is like, like I said earlier, when women have sex with men, or like she was mentioning too, like for us, it's an emotional connection, right?
	We have sex with a man and then we're like, oh, you know, I want to do it again, or I want to see them someway or somehow.
	And it just creates a different type of relationship than when a man goes and has sex with a woman.
	Because men don't react based off of emotions because that's just something that's feminine and they shouldn't.
	So for them, like they can fuck a girl and be like, whatever, you know, and never talk to them again.
	So for me, like, sex for him is just sex.
	It's whatever.
	And like I said, I'm not having sex with anybody else except for him because that's my choice and that's how it should be.
	And like I said, like for him, sex isn't important.
	It doesn't matter.
	Go ahead.
	Before dating him, would you agree to this type of relationship?
	Or have you changed your thoughts on this since dating him?
	I changed my thoughts on this because of Coach Corey Wayne and 3% Man read the book.
	But was that prior to dating him or was that during while dating him?
	Or starting to date him?
	That was like when I first met him in Logan.
	It was a conversation.
	That's a good question.
	Yeah, that's my question.
	But this is the thing too.
	Like, it wasn't like he didn't say like, hey, do this.
	Like I said, it was my free book.
	JMAX super chatted $99.99.
	The women here each seem to have self-respect, a brain, and a maternal instinct.
	Speaking as a father of five who has been married for 26 years, please reject popular culture and save yourselves until you find a man worthy of you.
	Yo, J-Mac, thank you for that.
	$100 super chat.
	Really appreciate the support, man.
	Wow, five kids.
	That's quite an achievement, man.
	Congrats.
	I do have a question.
	Has Nate ever, like, does he talk about Andrew Tate at all?
	No?
	No, never.
	Talks about Coach Corey Wayne.
	Who is that?
	I've never heard of Canadian.
	So he introduced you to Coach Corey.
	Cream and Logan did.
	What does that man?
	What does he suggest about relationships?
	He teaches men how to be more masculine and like things like that.
	Like teaches them how to be more masculine.
	And he helps them with women not to be like simps and shit.
	Like, you know how, like, you're not going to want to be with a man who is feminine unless you're just into that.
	But you don't want a man who's over here crying to you, bitching to you, like being more feminine than you should be as a female, right?
	Because nobody wants that.
	And even when you're in a relationship or you get married to a man that's feminine, it's not going to work out because you are supposed to be the feminine one and he is supposed to be masculine.
	Are you defending him or is he protecting you?
	Like it's supposed to, he is supposed to protect you.
	He's supposed to provide for you financially while you are supposed to be the loving one, the caring one, and taking care of like the kids, the family, like I said earlier.
	Did you have something?
	So yeah, I guess I'm curious though, too.
	Like, I'm going to be honest, it sounds like you've kind of been groomed to believe this double standard quote-unquote situationship relationship is okay.
	And I guess if you're okay with it, but it sounds like you have been manipulated into believing these things, which, yeah, it's, I guess, free will, but you know, he definitely gave you these resources on these viewpoints, and you're just like, kind of like, okay, I agree on this, either because A, the dick is really good, or B, you're very attracted to him and you want this sort of relationship.
	I don't know who this Nathan guy is, but it's a very double, this is a very double standard situation.
	Well, or C, all of the above on that, but didn't you say you were in a polygamous relationship or polyamorous?
	For a little bit, yeah, but we weren't, it wasn't like one of us couldn't have sex with anybody else and the other person could, it was open.
	But I see, see, that's what I mean is like I don't want to.
	I don't want to have sex with other people because, like I said, as a female, I would get that emotional attachment.
	It would be way more than just sex for me because I am a female and that's how our brains work off emotions.
	For a man, it doesn't work that way.
	So, I mean, I understand, but I think you're, like I said, like, I'm not doing it because I don't want to do it.
	Okay.
	The ins and outs of your relationship sound fine, so long as that's something that you'd agreed upon.
	What I'm curious about is it sounded like you were doing all of these things without him acknowledging the fact that he is in a relationship with you.
	That's what I was the red flag for me, that he's getting all of this from you while not acknowledging that you are a main chick or even his girlfriend.
	But that's the thing.
	Yeah, so when we talk, when he tells people or they ask like, yes, he will tell them like we still see each other.
	Like, I, like I said, ever since we have been seeing each other, he has not had sex with anybody else.
	And even then, when we've already talked about it, when we start dating, or if we were to start dating, the cheating would be considered building an emotional connection with someone else.
	So, you know, like meeting the family or talking about feelings or pasts or childhoods or, you know, like boundaries and stuff.
	Because those girls are just, it's just the fuck.
	That's it.
	So you just think that's fair, yeah.
	I feel like in most situations, maybe not Nathan, I don't know this man, but by opening that door to him by saying, hey, you can go do this with other girls, that immediately opens the door for him to go and do that behind your back.
	But that's, I just think that's, yeah, we have a good, like, I know, he knows I know.
	Like, I know he's still on hinge, like, I know those things, and I know that he's still.
	Still on hinge.
	Yeah, that's where Henry is.
	I don't disagree with.
	Yeah, I think sometimes, I don't think it's a hard and fast rule on that.
	I think sometimes actually opening up the floor and allowing for freedom in whatever way that pertains to your relationship is actually a really empowering thing for men, and it makes them feel a deeper connection for you.
	Whereas them knowing the door is open, they don't need to go through the door.
	A lot of cheating, I think, comes from the fact that people know the door is closed, and they know it's something that they can hide and keep secret, and that's why it's so attractive.
	Exactly.
	Like, if he, there would be more of a chance of him doing it behind my back if I was like, no, you can't do it, right?
	So, like I said, like he has not been having sex with other people since we've been talking, right?
	But he knows the option is there, but he doesn't have a need to do it.
	Like, there's a difference between rather and could.
	Like, would he rather have sex with me or would he rather have sex with someone else?
	He would rather have sex with me.
	But if he could have sex with someone else, he would if he had the time.
	But he doesn't deliberately go out of his way to go see other women.
	And like I said, it's not an emotional connection.
	It's literally just a quick fuck and that's it.
	But if he did, how would you feel?
	Would you be okay with that?
	We've had the conversation.
	Like, if you have an emotional connection with someone else and we were dating, then it would be considered like cheating.
	That's because.
	But right now it's not.
	He doesn't have emotional connections with other women.
	Like I said, he hasn't even had sex with someone else.
	What about finances, though?
	I mean, you said it would be cheating if you had built an emotional connection with someone else.
	What if he was providing for someone else?
	That would still be cheating.
	Okay.
	That's a part of the emotional connection.
	Like if you're, I mean, like, if she needs like a plan B or something, then, you know, that's obviously what he's got to do if he's doing that.
	But.
	Your thoughts, Natasha?
	Wait, wait, I'm sorry.
	Did you say that if you went to go buy her a plan B?
	Like if some girl was like, hey, I need that because they're having sex and whatever.
	What?
	But financially being like when we go out to eat, he pays, right?
	If I want like a drink from Starbucks, he pays.
	Like anytime we go out, he pays.
	That is financial stability.
	If he accidentally got a girl pregnant and she kept the baby, what would you do?
	That is a conversation for a different day.
	Yeah, I guess so.
	Because I don't, I mean, it's the same thing.
	Like if he got me pregnant, then what, you know?
	It's not the same, though.
	Because you're his girlfriend.
	You are the one that he's.
	I'm not his girlfriend.
	But how do you treat that?
	That's the only part I struggle with is that you're not the girlfriend and you're doing all this.
	That's, I mean, it's fine.
	I think there's a lot of things that women tolerate in relationships that other women don't.
	And if you actually view sex for men as being something that is surface level and superficial that they can do without engaging their emotions or feeling something for a woman, then maybe that is a playing field that's open in your relationship.
	I don't think that's really something that needs to be judged too much.
	But make sure you're in the relationship is my only advice.
	The only thing I'm kind of confused about is like, like I said, like we've only been talking for like three or four weeks and it would be wrong for me to sit here and act like a completely different person or not do these things.
	Because like when you start talking to a guy, like if he's an asshole to you, if he never takes you out to eat, if he never does these things in the beginning, are you going to be like, yeah, I want this dude as my boyfriend?
	Like if he's like talking shit to you or whatever?
	No.
	Obviously, you want him to do those things from the beginning.
	So, obviously, I'm going to present myself in a way of doing these things in the beginning so that he knows what he's getting himself into in the long run when it comes to putting a title on it.
	How do you trust him if he invited you at 1 a.m. to his house?
	Like, how many you, like, you girls he can invite any day to his house?
	I'm sorry, what was the question?
	How do you trust him?
	She's saying, with how the relationship started of you going there in the middle of the night, how do you trust that dynamic if he was so open to that moment?
	Well, because so originally when I got invited over, it wasn't like to do anything.
	Like, I had books or talk about nature.
	So, he had him and Logan had called me and they were trying to find girls for the podcast.
	And then they were like, hey, like, you can come stay here at Logan's house and then we'll drive because they were supposed to provide like the gas, the food, everything.
	And they did.
	So we all drove there together.
	But that was the only reason because I had lived an hour and a half away from them.
	So it was like, hey, come here, we'll drive tomorrow.
	And that was the original plan.
	Why you couldn't just came in the morning, early morning?
	Why should it be like at one age?
	Because he left in the morning.
	And that means I would have to wake up way earlier just to drive almost two hours there.
	So you feel safe sleeping in somebody else's house?
	Yeah.
	I mean, that's just me, though.
	But I understand and I can see the judgments or at least the self-opinions.
	But like I said, if I'm happy and he's happy, and like I said, I'm not doing any of this against my will, okay?
	He's not putting a gun to my head and saying, you can't do this or you can't do that.
	By all means, if I want to do it, I can go do it.
	But I want to be with him and I want to do those things for him.
	So I do those things for him.
	Speaking of putting a gun to your head, has a guy ever broached the topic of maybe this is a kink or something?
	Like, has a guy ever wanted to hold a pistol to your head during the act or a knife to your throat, for example?
	Has a guy ever done that?
	Proposed that?
	No.
	What if a guy did?
	Would you be like, would you be like, I'm open, or would you be like, that's kind of, it's unloaded.
	I'm going to have to blast.
	Yeah, I got to get out of here.
	I'd be scared.
	I would just wonder where that came from.
	Where did you experience that?
	Where did that idea cross your mind?
	Was it a traumatic event?
	Are you watching too much porn?
	I think it says more about the person than just a simple kink.
	I have a question for all of you.
	Yes.
	So going back on that, when do you think is the right time for you to start doing things that you would originally do in a relationship?
	Like, how do you act?
	So when you start talking to a guy, like, how do you personally act?
	Paul Mary 87 Super chatted 15,000 yen.
	Right now I am kind of changed my perspective on the Sailor Moon.
	All the women there are so sad that the Sailor Moon girl get picked by the Alpha guy.
	There's a different kind of relationship.
	There's a lot of same relationship like that in Japan, so keep up the good work.
	Yo, Al Nira.
	Thank you for the 15,000 yen.
	Holy shit, man.
	Thank you.
	Wait, why are you laughing?
	Hello?
	I'm just confused.
	When you're talking to a guy, when you're talking to a guy you're interested in, how do you act?
	Like, do you just not do anything for him?
	I think I would be like nice, nice, and cordial, but it would bother me.
	Like, personally, for me, and this is just me, like, I would act like a girlfriend when he's only sleeping with me and I'm only sleeping with him.
	Like, you know, we're like exclusive when there's labels.
	Yeah, when there's labels, or like, if I, it wouldn't even honestly have to be labels.
	Like, if I knew, because like I've been in relationships where I've kind of acted like the girlfriend and we were exclusive for like a week or two, and then we went into like the relationship.
	Like, it had to be like a very small amount of time, but like, I would not be okay with him personally, like, acting like a girlfriend and him like having sex with other girls.
	But how would someone want you to be their girlfriend?
	Like, if you have to act like it before, you're not a car.
	I get exactly what you're saying.
	I was just saying, like, how should you act in the middle?
	You're not a car to test drive.
	Do you understand that?
	Like, you think the some, I don't know, maybe you are.
	I'm sorry.
	Like, it's my personal opinion.
	I'm not a car to test drive.
	And, like, if you want to test drive, you can take other girls to test drive them.
	But if you want a car, you have to buy a car.
	Are we talking about Tokyo Drift again?
	We're back.
	Start singing.
	Do you understand what I'm saying?
	Yes, I understand exactly what you're saying.
	I do want to sing really quick for Al Niro, who donated the 15,000 Japanese yen.
	Will you guys join me in this?
	No.
	I don't even know the thing.
	Think of it.
	We're at congregation.
	We're at church right now.
	I want you guys to join me in a prayer.
	I wonder if you know how they do in Tokyo.
	If you see it, then you mean it.
	Then you know you have to go fast and furious.
	Drift, drift, drift.
	Fast and furious.
	Drift, drift, drift.
	Nope.
	Anyways, there it is.
	I'm just saying, I just don't understand.
	How do you act then?
	Tough crowd.
	Like, I get what you, yeah.
	Like, I totally get it.
	I'm just saying.
	Here, I think honestly, immediately, immediately, that's when you start doing girlfriendship.
	Immediately.
	If you're working towards a relationship with someone, how else are you supposed to act?
	Like, I'm not going to want to be with you if I don't know how you're going to be in a relationship.
	That's like if you get married, like all of a sudden, you should just start doing marriage stuff just because you're married now.
	Like, you should have been.
	Harry Meanwell super chatted $99.99.
	Wait, I do.
	Oh, thank you.
	I thought that was going to be.
	I know you're going to be.
	No, dude, Harry.
	Harry Meanwell.
	That's a great name.
	Harry Mean Good.
	Okay.
	Wait, I do have a question.
	Is he like providing for you financially?
	Yeah.
	Not just through dates and stuff, but like I mean, like there's no paying your rent.
	No.
	I don't pay rent.
	Oh, because your Simpsons pay your rent.
	No.
	So if you have a dad, right?
	Your dad teaches you how you should be taken care of by a man.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	So my dad provides for me because I am his daughter, just like he provides for my sister, who is also his daughter and provides for my mom.
	Right?
	So when I'm at home, like if I'm like, hey, like I need money or I need gas, like I can ask my dad, and if they have it, then they will do it for me.
	Right?
	So it's not only Nathan's responsibility until we get married.
	Like, obviously, like, how do I put this?
	So obviously, like, if we're just dating or we're just talking, then yes, date should be paid for, things like that, because that is his job.
	But if I need money elsewhere, like, bigger things, then you know, I would ask for help from my dad because he's a man.
	He is my father.
	You know, he takes care of me.
	So, like, do you, do you know what I'm do you know what I mean?
	Like, do you do his laundry?
	Who, Nathan?
	Yeah.
	Do you do his laundry?
	Like, you fold that shit.
	But he does mine too.
	Yeah.
	He does yours?
	Yeah, like sometimes I actually.
	You guys don't live together?
	Why do you?
	Sometimes I leave clothes there and he'll just throw mine in with his, but I do his clothes.
	You do his chores.
	Yeah.
	Actually, yo, let me put you guys on some game.
	Here's what you do, boys.
	She's not going to do the whole laundry, but if she comes over the first time she comes over, have it already dry, but like ready to be folded, and then send her on a mission to fold your laundry.
	That's some.
	And if she does, wifey material.
	What?
	No, but look, I'm a gentleman.
	I'm a gentleman.
	I'll do it with her.
	I'll have all the laundry on my bed, and I'll be like, oh, shoot, I forgot to fold it before you came.
	Let's fold it together.
	I mean, see, like, me and him, we clean his house together.
	Like, I, I, he, he cleans my clothes when I accidentally leave him there, and I wash his clothes when I'm there.
	I make the bed.
	Does he cleans your house?
	He has not been to my house yet because I have not made that decision yet.
	Like, even when I met his, when I met his family, it was accidental.
	It wasn't, like, intentional.
	And then he did allow it to continue on.
	And then I built that relationship with his family.
	Yeah, I mean, I will say the dynamics of my relationship are very similar to the dynamics of your relationship.
	I cook, I clean, I do all the nursery things he provides.
	He's there.
	If I need help with work or anything that's going on in my life, I take his guidance on it for the most part.
	And that's what you have.
	My only thing was I was just hoping that it was reciprocated.
	And in the way that you communicate it with words like training or teaching or I want to make sure I do these things for him because if I don't, there will be some sort of reactionary element to your relationship.
	That was where it was concerning for me.
	Not necessarily what exactly it is that you're doing.
	Okay, I think it's more, let me put it like this.
	So he, like I said, it was not only him.
	Like they just showed me this guy, whatever, that they based their lives on.
	And then I just look, like, they didn't force me to look into it.
	I looked into it myself.
	I watched the videos, like, what this guy talks about, what he teaches men, and things like that.
	And I just took from that and I thought about it and I used it, you know.
	But when it comes to him, like I said, the feelings are reciprocated.
	Do you make him two coffees?
	He doesn't drink coffee.
	Two coffees.
	W, he doesn't drink coffee.
	He needs to drink coffee.
	Does this guy teach men that they shouldn't be loyal to their girlfriends?
	Is that part of it?
	what is what is loyalty considered to you so because you're committed to one individual okay Okay, but that's when you're married.
	Like, so no, that's not married.
	So like I said, like I said, so emotional connection is different.
	So your boyfriend, if you have a boyfriend, I'm telling you, nine out of ten times, he's going to cheat on you and he's going to go fuck somebody else.
	No, that's not true.
	That's not true.
	Do you have a boyfriend?
	No, but I have.
	Okay, and it obviously didn't work out for a reason.
	Yeah, not the reasons that you're assuming.
	I'm not saying that he cheated on you, but I'm just saying obviously something you were doing or something he was doing was.
	No, that's not the reason we broke up at all.
	It was actually religious differences.
	Then like I said, that's on you guys.
	But majority of the time.
	Natasha's a Buddhist.
	Majority of the time I'm just saying like loyalty can mean different things to everybody.
	Like I said, like I can live my life this way and it's healthier.
	And like we mentioned earlier, like if you're telling somebody they can't do something, majority of the time they're going to go out of their way to do it.
	And like I said, we have been talking and he has not taken the opportunity to go sleep with someone else.
	That's true.
	And if that works for you, that's fine.
	But I just, I'm wary of these grown men who are teaching young men that they should not be loyal to their girlfriends or to their wives, you know?
	If I'm going to be honest, this conversation is kind of just going in a circle.
	And I'm personally, no offense to anyone, especially you, Love, but I'm really tired of hearing about it.
	So, and I, yeah, it's, it's a little, yeah, I feel like we need to move on.
	Stop it.
	Get to go.
	All right, yeah, we're going to move on here.
	Did you have something, Victoria, that you wanted to add?
	Above.
	I don't know.
	It sounded like you maybe wanted to jump in on something.
	No, I forgot about what it was.
	All right, guys.
	Guys, we're going to wrap here.
	Oh, Jesus.
	What's up?
	We're going to wrap here pretty soon.
	So get your last-minute super chats in if you want to.
	All right, let me do some super chats here.
	So I believe we left.
	Wait, did I?
	Yo, Mitch McDonald, thank you for the Merci Bucoup pour le Canadien 6999 Merci.
	By the way, it looks like you're on a boat.
	Thank you very much.
	Okay, we have to this.
	Do we do this one?
	Yeah, we did.
	We have Michael Watson here with the 50.
	Thank you, man.
	Should men having trouble finding women in the States join the passport bros to find women overseas that would find them attractive and would date them that could lead into marriage.
	That is a run-on sentence if I ever saw one.
	Okay.
	Should men having trouble finding would date them that could lead.
	Yes.
	Does the panel want to weigh in on this?
	I had a friend who was in this situation and they did get married and it turned out, I mean, we did try to warn her because a few weeks before they started dating, he was at another party with different friends of ours and asking girls if he could pay them to marry them.
	And then they got into a relationship, quote unquote, a month later they got married and now they're getting a divorce and he was the most toxic person for her.
	Her and I ended up not being friends for a while because of it and then we've come back together and she was just like, I'm so sorry.
	Like you and your family were just trying to look out for me because we saw the whole thing.
	I don't know.
	I feel like it's just kind of a toxic, it can be a toxic situation.
	She was a Filipino woman?
	No, no, no.
	He was out of the country.
	He was looking for somebody to marry here to get a passport.
	Oh, he was.
	So, okay, passport bros, just to kind of explain it.
	It's men who are in typically Western countries, for example, the United States.
	Oh, gotcha.
	Who are dissatisfied with the women locally and they opt to go to South America, Asia, et cetera, to attempt to find a partner because what is suggested is that women from these countries are more feminine.
	They're more attractive and they're more traditional and they're less promiscuous.
	Gotcha.
	Okay, so he was the passport bro.
	Technically, she went over and got, I mean, she didn't go over.
	He was here.
	Yeah, so I completely misunderstood the question.
	So that was bad.
	Yeah.
	So, by the way, Michael Watson, you're looking very dapper in that suit, sir.
	must say that is wow you are uh honestly i don't think given how well put together you look in that photo i frankly don't think you need to go to thailand Just stick it out here.
	You'll find a chick.
	You're a handsome dude.
	But actually, yeah, you should probably leave.
	Okay.
	We have, let's see.
	Thank you, David, Mike Davis.
	SJTV, thank you for the 50.
	Are Platonic Friends of the Opposite Sex a Deal Breaker?
	Ooh, this is a good question.
	A deal breaker in a committed relationship.
	By the way, shout out to Amela.
	Amala.
	Fuck.
	I'm so sorry.
	I'm being a dickhead.
	It's okay.
	You can ask the rest of some of the girls who've been here before. have severe trouble remembering names.
	Love the work you do at Prager U. Thank you.
	That is from SJTV.
	San Jose TV.
	I don't know.
	What does it mean?
	Yeah, guys, go check out her podcast, Unapologetic.
	It's on YouTube.
	It's on Apple Music, Spotify, MySpace.
	No.
	Get on it.
	What's going on over there at PragerU?
	I'm so sorry.
	You Prager U people got to get it together.
	Get on MySpace, okay?
	But what was it, Platonic Friends?
	Yeah, I'm just kind of preempting because I think a TTS is about to.
	Oh, actually, can you pull that one up, Carson?
	Because it's the Japanese yen one.
	Just one clarification.
	So 15,000 Japanese yen is about 110 USD.
	So all Niro, thank you very much.
	If you want this to trigger TTS, though, it's kind of complicated, but the conversion is done in Streamlabs.
	So it has to, even though it might be read, like in the YouTube thing, it has to be converted to 100 USD or more to trigger TTS.
	But I'll just read it right now really quick.
	Al Niro, 87, thank you for the 10,000 yen.
	Sorry if I don't know your name, Sailor Moon.
	Just go to Japan.
	There are a lot of people in Japan who have the same relationship like yours, Sailor Moon.
	They don't judge you like the American woman.
	Just go live in Japan.
	Thoughts?
	Are you going to live in Japan?
	I'm not going to live in Japan.
	Okay.
	You do like Asian men, though, so maybe?
	Does he have a shot?
	Does Al Niru 87 have a shot?
	No.
	Do you date men who have anime avatars for their YouTube profile pictures?
	As Exhibit A?
	Thank you for your chat.
	That's all.
	Niru, I'm coming to Japan.
	Can we hang out?
	Okay.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	And let me bring it back here to, was it Watson's?
	No, it was this guy.
	Okay.
	Platonic friends of the opposite sex, a deal-breaker in a committed relationship.
	Let's start with Natasha.
	Go ahead.
	That's a hard one, honestly.
	But when I think of that question, I have to think about like, if I consider a married couple, like my parents, both of them find it inappropriate for them to have relationships with people of the opposite sex because they're in committed married relationships.
	And typically, I don't know.
	It is kind of hard, but when I do think of a married couple, I do find it like, why should a married man have relationships with single married, with single, sorry, with just single women?
	Like, there's really no point for him to have relationships with them unless it's like, you know, just, you know, they just see each other in passing or whatever.
	But I think deep relationships where they're either hanging out alone or, you know, not including their partner in these meetings or hangouts, whatever, that's kind of inappropriate.
	Victoria.
	I agree with her.
	I'm sorry, I was reading.
	Yeah, I agree.
	What was the question?
	About the Platonic Friends.
	Yeah.
	Yes, yes.
	I agree.
	Platonic friends of the opposite sex.
	A deal breaker in a relationship.
	I would feel really uncomfortable if a guy had like a really, really like, this is like, oh, like, this is my best friend.
	Female friend.
	They were like friends.
	Like, you can have like female friends, but I don't think you should be like, this is my ride or die, like, best friend, you know?
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	I feel like it all depends.
	I feel like every situation is different.
	Obviously, if they're hanging out alone and not including the other partner, that's a big, does a big deal breaker.
	So going to the friend of the opposite sex and talking about relationship issues, that is also a big no as well.
	If you're going to talk about relationship issues with a friend, it should be a friend of the same sex.
	Just because, yeah, that is also inappropriate and could potentially lead open doors or give mixed signals.
	I don't know.
	So it really just depends, I guess, on every situation.
	He can if he wants to.
	I choose not to.
	So, yeah, it's not necessarily a deal breaker.
	It would depend when the friendship was brought about.
	Was it before I was around?
	Is it after we started dating?
	And what are you getting from the friendship that is different from what you're getting out of this relationship?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I think it's an L.
	I think it's an L. Like, if she, I mean, I can't speak for women.
	Maybe women have a different view on this.
	But if she has male friends, and I think it actually is a bit different because I think women can have genuine relationships, friendships with men.
	However, I don't think men can have genuine friendships with women.
	Because generally speaking, and here's why.
	Because a lot of you, if any of you have male friends, I guarantee you, if you were to text them, let's assume that they're not in a relationship, you're not in a relationship.
	If you were to text them and say, would you like to hook up?
	The dude's gonna say yes.
	So just on that alone, if you deep down would be willing to have sex with the person, it's not a good look.
	Also um, it's just the, the guy's gonna want to sleep with you.
	He, he's interested.
	A lot of male friends, they're just either, and especially like you you hear this term friend zone right girls, friend zone guys that have initially shown a sexual interest in them.
	So if you have a dude in your friend zone who's your friend however, the initial way you met him was he had a romantic interest in you.
	That's another layer to your friendship, which and men don't really friend zone women like occasionally it happens, but it's usually women who friend zone men and then it's men who fuckzone women.
	That's another conversation.
	But um, so also, and i'll just to give an anecdote I was dating this girl for two months it was two or three months and she was living with a guy who was her friend and she said, we're just roommates, we're just housemates, just friends, whatever.
	And i'm like there's some other signs there.
	But I was like, all right, what's going on?
	And she's like, listen, like we're just friends, like there's nothing there, like we've just known each other for years, we're just friends.
	We lived like housemates, whatever.
	So i'm dating her for two, two months and she's kind of being a little shifty and shit.
	I'm like okay.
	And then turns out he was in love with her the entire time and he, he like at some point because I was kind of moving in, so to speak not into their place literally, but we were progressing she, he like broaches the uh, the hey, I love you.
	And then she's like oh, I don't want to lose this great friendship I have.
	And then she's like, text me and she's like, by the way, i'm now dating My housemate, that's just my friend.
	So yeah, good times.
	What would you say about like friend groups, like friend groups that have guys and girls in it?
	Like, would you be okay with that?
	I mean, it's kind of iffy.
	I don't think I have a major issue with it.
	I think the big thing, though, is like when you say friend, like, are you, because that could mean, like, when I think of a friend, I'm thinking, like, you're hanging out with this person one-on-one.
	Oh, I don't know.
	And there's like no way I'd be cool with my girlfriend one-on-one hanging out with a guy.
	Even if it is platonic, it's a reputational thing because men care a lot about respect and reputation.
	So if one of my buddies, say I'm trying to work on a business deal with somebody and my friend or this business connection sees, maybe he knows my girlfriend.
	I know this is a very hypothetical scenario.
	Sees my girlfriend alone with another guy.
	That is going to potentially impact a business deal that I would otherwise close on or something.
	Or just if it's a remove the business component from it, if it's just one of my male friends and they see me or see, excuse me, getting tongue-tied here.
	It's a bit late.
	If they see my girlfriend with another guy, I lose respect in my friend's eyes because they're like, what's going on?
	I meant like if you all hang out as a group, like you're not hanging out with them one-on-one, but like you, he's like part of your friend group.
	Is she partying?
	Because I don't date chicks who party.
	Okay, so I don't know.
	That's another good conversation we can have really quick.
	Thinking about like, I don't know, like the show friends, how they're all friendly.
	Like something like that.
	Like they just all hang out.
	That's fine.
	For me, I don't really care.
	Maybe other guys have an issue with it.
	I'd say that's fine.
	But if you're hanging out like one-on-one.
	One-on-one.
	And if you're texting male friend, that is a little of an eyebrow raise for me.
	And then like, I remember once we had on the show, a girl said, oh yeah, I've got a male friend and I would like, I go to his house alone.
	And like, even if you genuinely are friends, it's the appearance of impropriety.
	It just, it doesn't look good.
	And I just, so yeah, I think male friends are no good.
	But like friend group, me personally, I wouldn't care, but some other guys may have an issue with it.
	So yeah.
	What if a friend is like far away?
	Have you fucked him?
	No.
	I mean.
	So you're a pen pal with a male.
	I mean.
	Not like pen pal, but like I was in Germany.
	We went in Germany.
	We went to a couple of dates, but it never, he moved to another place.
	You went on a couple dates.
	Y'all went on a couple dates.
	Majority of the time when girls are friends with guys and in a relationship, whenever something goes wrong with that guy, they always feel the need to go to their guy friends and be like, hey, like, can you, like, because to them, they're like, oh, because you're a guy, you can help me, like, try to understand what's wrong with my boyfriend or why he's thinking like that or maybe like give me advice on what I should do because you're another guy.
	But in all reality, you shouldn't be going to another man about your man whatsoever.
	But a lot of the times, girls with male friends will always go to those guys while they're in relationships.
	I mean, I don't talk about my relationship with anybody, but what I'm saying is that it's just like he's far away.
	He's in Germany and I live in States.
	There's no way.
	There's no competition per se.
	Like you can't compete with somebody I have right here right now in any way.
	You can compete with me.
	Emotionally.
	Yeah, emotionally.
	Like I said, you can text him.
	You can call him.
	You guys can go back and forth.
	Like you can ask him for it.
	Like it doesn't matter.
	Yeah, you date.
	You still had a past with him.
	So that emotional connection could still be there to where you feel you can go and ask him these questions about your relationship.
	Here, let me ask you, let's say, would you have an issue with a guy who, let's say, is in San Francisco and he has an ex-girlfriend in LA who he's still texting.
	But like, ex-girlfriend is different if like you've been in a long-term relationship.
	Well, you said you went on a couple dates with him.
	Yeah, I've been in a couple dates.
	It's like.
	Did you guys have sex?
	No.
	If you went on a couple dates, he was interested in you and wanted to see it through further.
	Yeah, but like, no, there's no point.
	And that's why I'm like, but he kind of like still skips.
	So you only went on three dates.
	And he moved.
	he moved to another so we might that's why we never meant more because he moved Okay, so it's there is no punctuation mark on your relationship.
	No.
	This is a, there's a, if you were to, in the future, go to Germany or you guys were to connect somewhere, would dating continue?
	I don't know.
	It's not up to me.
	See, that's the same thing.
	Well, it's just relag on red lag.
	Relax.
	I wouldn't know.
	I'm friends with this guy.
	We're like really good friends.
	We've been friends for five years and we've been both single or both in relationships and absolutely nothing has happened and like I don't feel like either of us want to date each other.
	Like and I don't know when you thought about like he's I've seen him friend zone other girls.
	So like maybe he's just the type of guy that like will be friends with girls.
	But that's like one relationship.
	I agree, but that's like one relationship that I think like I'll have for a long time and I don't think either of us want to fuck each other.
	Like it's been five years.
	Like one of us would have made a move, you know?
	Sometimes men that are simps will literally wait until the opportunity that they get to have any chance where you know you want to go cry on their shoulder.
	All of a sudden you don't feel good.
	Oh my boyfriend dumped me.
	Like that's when they take their chance and they some of them do not care how long it takes.
	They will be there until the time is right.
	Are you attracted to him?
	No.
	Is he attracted to you?
	No.
	So it's just friends?
	Just friends.
	Why is he not attracted?
	Yeah.
	Like, and how did you like become friends?
	Curious.
	We became friends during class.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	We just both kind of got close to each other, but I've never like found him like attractive in any way.
	Like I've never emotionally felt like I liked him or like physically was attracted to him.
	I just feel like it's not normal typically for guys to hang out with girls that they're not attracted to in some way.
	Like how did you even get introduced to his life without him being somewhat attracted to who you were?
	He can always tell you that he doesn't feel that way, but there's no reason for him to stick around for that long if there's no intention whatsoever.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Emotionally busy.
	Let's try something.
	Can you text him right now?
	Where does he live?
	He's probably sleeping.
	He goes to school in Massachusetts.
	Oh, so he's on the East Coast.
	Yeah.
	Eh, fuck it.
	Let's try.
	Text him right now and say, hey, I'm in Boston.
	do you want this is this is a tough one because i don't know how that's gonna Basically say, hey, do you want to hook up?
	No.
	Come on.
	No.
	You can tell him after.
	I'm not a friend.
	Oh, yeah.
	Never mind.
	He's had like multiple girls.
	I don't want to like, I'm not better beef.
	Even better.
	Stir in the pot.
	Yeah.
	Do it!
	Trust him!
	No, Never mind.
	I'm going to cause so many problems for myself.
	Never mind.
	Yesterday.
	So you're afraid he's going to say yes.
	No.
	What I'm afraid of, I know he's going to say no, but then his girlfriend's going to come after me and be like, what the fuck are you doing?
	And I'm going to be like.
	Who's on a podcast?
	Like, sorry.
	Don't trip.
	The interesting thing is, though, earlier you brought up friends, right?
	Oh, friend group, right?
	They all fucked each other, basically.
	Oh, that is true.
	Yeah, you have a good point there.
	Ross was with Rachel.
	Rachel.
	And then, wait, Joey was with Rachel and Fi?
	Wait, hold on.
	I'm trying to fuck you.
	Phoebe.
	They were never together.
	Who's the one who's kind of...
	Rachel was with...
	Okay, I'm going to pick it up.
	Rachel?
	Rachel was with Ross and Joey.
	Chandler was with Monica.
	Just Monica.
	Just Monica.
	Phoebe was with no one.
	Phoebe was with no one.
	Although there was a moment.
	There's been a couple of people.
	Yeah, there were a couple moments with Phoebe.
	All right.
	So I guess you're right.
	Yeah, I guess you're right.
	Yeah, that's the whole should show in a certain way.
	Yeah.
	Anyways, let's move on to the next super chat here.
	We have, let's see, wait.
	Yo, Martin, thank you for the 50.
	Notice how the other girls are criticizing her for putting her best foot forward to try and be the best supportive partner she can for Nathan.
	Why would a man trust that a woman will have relationship skills after the commitment?
	You ladies have it backwards.
	Your response.
	I think that those are things that you can discuss.
	I'm not upset about the dynamic of her relationship whatsoever.
	Again, just making sure it's a relationship.
	That's literally it.
	Yeah, I think a lot of them are misunderstanding, or maybe they just don't want to live their lives that way, and that's them.
	Like I said, I am more feminine and he is more masculine.
	And that's how our relationship is, and that's how it works.
	And it is fair on both sides.
	So that's done.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We have Dakota B here.
	Thank you, man.
	I would disagree with Mike Davis.
	I understand it's a bit emasculating, but from my personal experience, going down on a girl is a great way to play with a woman's head and control her if you do it right.
	That's an interesting take there.
	Any response to this, guys?
	Alpha energy.
	I mean, facts.
	If a guy can give a good head, it's alpha.
	It's pretty hot, and it is alpha energy.
	I do respect it.
	And honestly, the men that I've dated have usually, except for that one guy I was hucking up with for a little bit, have usually enjoyed going down on a woman.
	So I haven't really had that much of an issue except for that one guy.
	I don't know.
	Okay, we have, excuse me, we have Belle here.
	Thank you for the 50, man.
	Appreciate it.
	I'm so glad the girls here are trying to save her from a clearly future abusive relationship.
	A three to four week relationship.
	Honey, you need to run.
	This guy is toxic AF.
	Your response?
	My response is, like I said, if I didn't, like, no one is forcing me to do anything.
	I am doing these things because it makes me happy, because I like it.
	Because, like I said, I've looked into everything and that's how I feel comfortable.
	And that's, if I want to do it, then that's fine.
	Like, like I said, if he was forcing me, then that would be something else.
	Word.
	Okay.
	Carson, can you pull up the Stream Labs tab?
	We have one here from Stream Labs.
	Andy Mason, thank you for the 50.
	I can trigger you fake trad wives.
	22M with 21 girlfriend of seven years.
	Wait, so you start dating at 15?
	Okay.
	I'm in 100% control clothes, devices, whereabouts.
	Ho-face at 20 and didn't listen for a year, but we're back.
	You think will last forever now?
	Would you girls accept child restrictions for a dominant man?
	Child restrictions is where that comment got a little weird.
	It's a little weird.
	So would you, if the.
	If he's a dominant man, would you accept restrictions such as what you can wear, I suppose checking your devices and letting him know where you are?
	100%.
	Yeah, 100%.
	Because he is the man.
	He is the supporter.
	Like, he is protecting me, taking care of me.
	I mean, like, Nathan has full access to my phone.
	If he doesn't like what I'm wearing, then, you know, like I said, I am a representation of him.
	But you know, he's a girlfriend.
	In what way you raise his representation of the game?
	This goes back to the main thing of how the fuck are you supposed to act when you start talking to a guy and then all of a sudden start acting like a girlfriend just because he calls you his girlfriend.
	How's he supposed to know what he's getting into if you don't act like that in the beginning?
	So basically, you are acting like his girlfriend and you just, like, he just fucks you.
	That's what happens here.
	No, like I said earlier, we do not have sex all the time.
	Like, like I said, we hung out earlier today.
	We hung out yesterday.
	We did not have sex.
	And L.
	Well, because we went to a car meet.
	Went to a car.
	I thought you were done with the car meet.
	I only go with him.
	Listen, huh?
	Do you have access to his phone as well?
	Yeah.
	You do?
	Yeah, he doesn't care.
	Like, he has nothing to hide.
	Like, I know.
	Like, we have a good, honest, communicating, like, relationship.
	And, like I said, car meet, we go to car meets with each other because I should, if I want to do those things, we do them together.
	Does Nathan have a spoiler on his car?
	Yeah.
	I knew it.
	Nathan.
	Okay.
	It's got spoiler.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Here, can you do the Tokyo Drift song?
	Can you?
	I know you keep going these car meets when they that's that's the theme song of car meets It's the Tokyo Drift.
	Maybe when you go to drift shows, but car meets are just cars.
	For sure.
	Do it yourself.
	For sure.
	Okay, so you were shaking your head in terms of the tolerating him kind of saying what he wants you to wear, checking your devices and knowing your whereabouts.
	But he's dominant.
	I would be fine with the whereabouts and like checking the devices as long as I can.
	Into the mic.
	Sorry, I would be fine with checking like the whereabouts and like checking the devices as long as I can do the same.
	But with clothes, I feel like I wouldn't necessarily dress in a way that would be trying to disrespect him.
	And I feel like it's like also like it's kind of a wanna wear and like I'm not trying to offend you and like everybody knows that like I'm yours, but you should also respect my choices as well.
	Like I want to give you respect, but you should also be giving me respect.
	Like I'm not gonna like if I'm like damn, I'm not gonna go and wear something that's like totally absurd, but like it's more in the way that it's like I don't know.
	I have a problem when guys are like, yeah, but like they'll be looking at you and it's kind of like you, I don't know, like you go to bars and guys hit on you anyway, no matter what you're wearing.
	So it's like, why does it matter as much?
	You said you were in a long-distance relationship, correct?
	Yeah.
	Were you going out to parties and clubs and bars while you were in that relationship?
	Yeah.
	I mean, he was there for most of the time.
	Like he was there with me.
	But isn't he in LA?
	Yeah, but like we would see each other like almost every weekend.
	Like he'd come up here every other weekend.
	You go to UCSB?
	Yes.
	UCSB is a party school.
	Yes.
	He was coming.
	So how often do you party?
	Thursday, Friday, Saturday?
	Yeah, not usually every all three days, but like every Friday, Saturday.
	Probably.
	Yeah.
	Probably like two.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	He was there for all of those?
	Almost all.
	He would come.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, he would probably come like Thursday and sorry.
	He would probably come Friday and stay through Sunday.
	He would come every other week, and then I would go to LA every other weekend.
	Okay.
	But I feel like if he was like with me or even if he wasn't with me, it's kind of like I'm not pursuing any other guys.
	I'm just like wearing what I want to wear.
	And most of the time I felt like I wasn't wearing anything really promiscuous.
	Wait.
	He went out with you to party?
	Yeah.
	That's no.
	That's a no.
	No.
	Why?
	It's just.
	Do you think you should be partying and going out if you're in a relationship?
	I don't I don't see like the I mean it's not like we go out like every other time he was here Like if he was here and he's like, oh, I don't want to go out, I'd be like, yeah, let's stay in and like watch a movie or something.
	But like, we're like, let's go to dinner.
	But like, if I wanted to party, I'm 19.
	Like, when am I, like, yeah, it's like, I don't want to be doing it when I'm like 30 years old or like maybe younger.
	Like, I'm going to do it now.
	Yeah, I was just asking like opinion.
	I wasn't trying to like argue or anything.
	I was just asking, like, I was actually asking everybody, like, do you guys think that when you're in a relationship that not together, but separately, like, do you think you should be going out and partying while you're in a relationship?
	No.
	Like, put it together?
	No.
	No.
	Say it louder, Natasha.
	Say it with your chest.
	No.
	Victoria.
	Say it with your chest.
	What do you mean by partying?
	Like, it's the same.
	Going to bars.
	What about playing?
	So if you have a friend.
	And that's my party.
	When I say party, like when I say party, I mean like a house party, like a college party.
	Okay, no.
	I mean, like, clubbing.
	Like, do you have to do that?
	Not like a birthday party where clubbing, like clubbing, house parties, college parties.
	Like, do you think you should be doing those things while you're in a relationship?
	I never done them, so I don't know what to say about this question.
	You've never gone to a bar?
	How old are you?
	Okay, so if you have a boyfriend, right?
	Yeah.
	And like you're at home whenever you guys don't have plans and he texts you at like 10, 11 p.m. and he's like, hey, I'm going out to this party.
	Like would you be like, okay?
	He can go whatever he wants.
	And would you go out and party if you want to go out to me?
	No, I go to sleep around 11.
	So you wouldn't party?
	No.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Just curious, you said you've partied, like, gone out with your boyfriend quite a bit, right?
	Yeah.
	And you have a fake ID, right?
	That's how you met, wait, you met him at a...
	Yeah.
	You met him.
	At the Wildcat.
	Okay.
	How old is he?
	He's 23.
	Oh, but this is your ex-boyfriend.
	You're single now, excuse me.
	Okay, he's 23.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And you guys would go out together and party.
	Was it in a friend group?
	He was mostly like in a friend group, like with my friend group or his friend group.
	Did you ever witness him get into any fights while you guys were out?
	No.
	No fights?
	No.
	Okay.
	Well, I mean, my recommendation to men is you typically don't want to go out with either female friends or your girlfriend.
	I'm normally like, if I'm like.
	A little closer to the mic.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Like if I'm with him, like I'm not really like talking to any other guys, or if somebody talks to me, I like keep it like short and then go back or I'm talking to like that guy with him.
	I don't know.
	Well, it doesn't matter because like when you're in these venues, like there's drunk idiots and like if these drunk idiots say or do something inappropriate, you're gonna look to your boyfriend to potentially intervene.
	Or if the drunk idiot is especially belligerent, he's going to probably look for trouble with your boyfriend.
	I can't count the amount of times I've seen guys in Isla Vista or I've seen guys at bars or clubs.
	I don't really go to the bars and clubs, but that speaks to how frequently I see street fights that are outside the bars in the bars.
	And then just at parties, it often involves some sort of conflict, like something relating to something happening with a girl.
	So, if some drunk idiot, and it's not your fault, but if you have to realize what happens in these venues, if some drunk idiot says something to you rude or disrespectful, you might you're either going to look to your boyfriend to be like, shut the fuck up,
	like put him, put that other guy in his place, or if you're with a masculine woman, she's going to say something to that guy and sort of escalate it, and then that guy's going to see, okay, she's with the guy.
	You know, a lot of guys are not going to hit a girl.
	However, if he's really drunk, belligerent, he's going to see that you're with a boyfriend.
	I know it hasn't happened to you, but like, it's just more me being cautious and vigilant.
	You, a lot of girls, either female friends or girlfriends, will get their boyfriends fucked up.
	Like, because, and I'm not saying it's the women's fault, but it is a bit of a liability to go out to these venues with female friends, especially if they're like loud and more masculine.
	Okay, um, I don't know if you find it.
	I've never, I've never thought about it that way.
	You've never seen a street fight in IV, it's like every weekend.
	Well, yeah, I usually like just go to my friends' houses and stuff like that.
	So, like, normally I know all the people and they know that I have a boyfriend.
	Like, I'm not like partying where it's like meeting a bunch of new people and like talking to you.
	It's mostly like drinking with my friends or stuff like that.
	And if I am going to bars, it was always with him.
	Like, I wasn't going by myself.
	Like, they would all know that I have a boyfriend, and like, or he'd be there.
	Like, it wasn't like I'm like, let's go stroll DP and like get into whatever party I can.
	Like, if I didn't have anything to do, I'd stay in.
	But, yeah, no, I understand your point.
	I don't know if I have anything to say back because I've never really thought about it.
	I've got a bit of a tangent.
	Yeah, I've never really thought about it like that.
	Yeah.
	And, you know.
	Well, most people don't think about their security in these sorts of situations.
	But so I do want to keep it moving, though.
	I'm trying to remember what the original question was.
	Victoria.
	Should people party?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I said I answered already.
	Okay.
	You okay?
	Is that cup doing all right?
	Okay.
	Who's busy like?
	Answer, Natasha?
	To the question?
	Yeah.
	I already answered.
	I said no, they shouldn't.
	You did?
	Oh, okay.
	We won that one.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Let me do these two chats and then we're going to wrap.
	We have Salzik S-K-A-E-D.
	I don't know.
	Does anyone know what currency this is?
	Abu Dhabi.
	Is it?
	Yeah, Dubai currency.
	Well, hey, Salzkask.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it for the 185 there.
	Mike Davis Dakada has no room to insert himself in the conversation since the neckbeard like himself talking about pleasing women is like a janitor trying to pilot a plane.
	I could keep these tips to myself, but I'm trying to help the young lads fighting World War III or four.
	Yeah, sorry, where was it?
	Thank you, Mike Davis.
	Okay, anyone final thought here before we wrap the show?
	Final thoughts?
	Speak now, forever, hold your peace.
	Any Natasha, I know you want to say something.
	No.
	The only thing I, someone, he put up a super chat that someone was like, Natasha, I'm Buddhist too.
	I'm not Buddhist.
	Okay, that was a joke.
	I'm not Buddhist.
	Don't be ashamed of your religion.
	Don't be ashamed.
	Okay.
	Anyone?
	Final thought?
	Final thought?
	Yeah, I have been paying attention to the chat during this whole podcast just because I'm just curious.
	Uh-oh.
	Yeah.
	I'm sorry that a lot of you haven't really liked my outlook on things.
	It's all good, though.
	I feel like it would be different if there was a little bit more context to certain things that I was saying too.
	And I feel like people took a lot of things out of context, not just me, but other things that other girls were saying.
	Yeah, obviously we only have a short amount of time on the podcast.
	But yeah, it's all good.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Just Dakada.
	Dakada?
	I'm not, I think he did a couple super chats, maybe.
	Oh, good.
	Amala, right?
	Did I say right this time?
	Yeah.
	Amala.
	Yeah, you did.
	It's right this time.
	Guys, please go check out her podcast on YouTube, Spotify, MySpace, and all the other streaming platforms.
	And do you have another channel, or is it just the, like, do you have two channels or just the one, Amalepinobi, Unapologetic?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I'd love to be back.
	And I'll get you a combative.
	Yeah, I'll get you like a little different panel next time.
	That was the way the.
	See, I thought me and her were going to go at it.
	No, but we actually agreed.
	No, we actually.
	Yeah, no.
	We have nothing to do with that.
	I was surprised.
	I was actually really surprised that she agreed.
	So why did you think I was going to come at you?
	Well, because you have a podcast.
	Oh, okay.
	She's disappointed.
	You thought I was going to be like Drew or Sarah.
	I've seen some of the women on here who have podcasts.
	And I think the pregnant lady, that day I was supposed to come, what's her name?
	Ali.
	Allie.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So some of the things she was saying, I felt like I could have picked a fight with her.
	Well, okay, you picked a fight last show that you were on.
	Yeah.
	And you said you were disappointed with the talent.
	Yeah, you said you were disappointed with the talent.
	So do you want to talk shit?
	Final, final.
	I mean, it's different with that.
	With that panel, there was girls who were literally out of their mind talking about I'm a 10.
	I mean, nobody here.
	I mean, she's pretty.
	They're all...
	Stop!
	I'm not going to.
	Come on.
	A little fight at the end of the wedding.
	I'm going to get jumped in the parking lot.
	Cool.
	Anyways, they're all pretty cool.
	I mean, some of them could use some work.
	The fuck.
	Certain opinions and certain things.
	They could use some work.
	Yeah, but they probably think the same about me too.
	So, I mean, that's that.
	Okay.
	All right, guys.
	Thanks for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats and supports the show.
	Big thank you to the wonderful panel tonight.
	Thanks to all our chat mods.
	Thank you to Chaz-based Chaz.
	Thank you, man.
	Any women who are short, my DMs are open.
	At BD underscore Atlas.
	Guys, we will be live again Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
	I have a very, very interesting guest coming on Tuesday.
	He's recently made some interesting statements.
	So be sure to tune in Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
	I'm also doing a one-on-one interview with him, so that'll probably be at about one.
	It's tentative, but around one or 2 p.m., interview with him.
	Then he's going to be on the Dating Talk podcast.
	And I think there was one last thing here.
	I'm slipping my mind.
	Thanks to the panel.
	The chat mods.
	Chaz.
	I think that's it.
	Anyways, guys, yeah, we'll be live again Tuesday.
	We will see you guys next time.
	Hope you guys have a good night.
	And yeah, have a good night, guys.

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