Whatever Podcast - Dating Talk #32

Feb. 4, 2023 - Whatever Podcast

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Dating Talk #32

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	Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast coming to you live from Isla Vista, Santa Barbara County, California.
	Every Tuesday and Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific, I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
	I'm joined by my co-host, Kiki.
	She's a bit shy.
	So a few quick announcements before the show begins.
	I'm in costume.
	It was Halloween yesterday, so why not?
	By the way, just want to clarify: this is a World War I costume, not a World War II costume.
	And only one of the other girls is kind of wearing a costume-ish.
	I did my best.
	Guys, do I put on the picklehaba?
	One in the chat if I wear the picklehaba, or two in the chat if I don't.
	By the way, and also this is a this is sort of uh some uh artistic liberty with this costume.
	Anyways, um, oh, yeah, first off, boys, can we get some Fs in the chat for YouTube's new absolute dog shit user interface?
	Rounded thumbnails.
	You can't sort videos by oldest.
	No more red subscribe button, RIP Fs in the chat.
	Anyways, this channel is viewer supported, so please consider sending a super chat throughout the show.
	I will read super chats $10 and up.
	All super chats will be displayed in Stream Overlay.
	By the way, thank you, Leonardo No Caprio, for the gifted sub before the show, or sorry, the gifted membership before this show started.
	Appreciate you, man.
	We got channel memberships.
	Eric, if you pull that up, thank you.
	We got channel memberships, Patreon, merch.
	All links for that are in the description.
	To become a channel member, you can hit that join button below.
	We have six different tiers of support, a ton of perks.
	We're also streaming to Twitch right now.
	Twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	This is a list of just the people who have followed us recently.
	You can also drop a Prime sub and it'll show up here too.
	So drop us a follow, drop us a Prime sub.
	If you have Amazon Prime, you can sub to us totally free with the Prime Sub.
	Also, please consider supporting my nonprofit, the American Network Against Labia Plasty, or anal for short.
	We empower women who may feel self-conscious or insecure about their labia.
	It's a grassroots movement.
	Really, it's the most pressing issue of our time.
	And I want to live in a world where women do not feel obliged to undergo dangerous, unnecessary surgery and mutilate themselves for purely cosmetic reasons.
	And no woman or man, honestly, should be shamed for the way they were worn.
	Anyways, if you need any convincing to not go under the knife, DM me at whatever.
	Okay.
	Can we get some hashtag all labia matter in the chat?
	And oh, if you want to be on the show or help with the show, DM at whatever on Instagram.
	Eric, if you want to switch it over, thank you.
	We need chat mods, timestamps, trying to get some clips up if anyone's into editing, some assistance in studio, studio hands.
	Anyways, by the way, Michael Trilstein, thank you for the big 10 gifted subs, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Unfortunately, StreamYard does not show.
	Yeah, you can pull that one up, Eric.
	Yeah, Michael, thank you, man.
	StreamYard does not show gifted subs for some reason, but just want to acknowledge that.
	Thank you for the big, what was it, 10 gifted subs, I think?
	Thank you, man.
	Much appreciated.
	So we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and or school major.
	Go ahead.
	I'm Austis.
	I'm 27, and I'm an industrial designer.
	I'm Kira.
	I'm 20 years old, and I'm a pre-law major, and I'm a nanny.
	I'm Sydney.
	I work on cars.
	Age?
	I'm 24.
	Did you give age too?
	Okay.
	27.
	Okay, got it.
	I'm Ari.
	I'm 18.
	I'm a nanny too.
	And yeah.
	I'm Maddie.
	I'm 19.
	And I work at Blenders.
	I'm Alice.
	I'm 20, and I'm a mechanical engineering major.
	I'm Izzy.
	I'm 19, and I'm a sociology major.
	Awesome.
	And for those of you who are students, do all of you go to UCSB or do any of you go to Santa Barbara State College?
	I go to the city college.
	Same.
	CC?
	CC.
	CC?
	Okay, got it.
	Cool, cool.
	By the way, Michael Trilstein, thank you for the big subsequent $20, sorry, 20 gifted memberships, man.
	Congrats me, boys.
	Boom.
	Ninja loot.
	Yo, thank you, man.
	You're a fucking legend.
	Really appreciate it.
	By the way, oh, a couple people in the chat have been asking about the all-stripper panel.
	So it was going to be four girls from the Spearmint Rhino.
	That's the singular strip club here in Santa Barbara.
	It was scheduled for Sunday.
	Within an hour of the show, all four of them flaked.
	So Hensley was not going to be on that one.
	She warned me that strippers are incredibly flaky.
	Lo and behold, all of them flaked.
	So yeah, sorry about that, guys, if you were waiting in the chat for that show.
	Anyways, we're going to go around once more.
	Is anyone here in the sorority?
	Just quick.
	Nobody?
	Okay.
	Everyone's Instagrams are in the description.
	Guys, show them some love, give them a follow.
	So we're going to go around the table once more.
	Relationship status, longest relationship, current relationship status, your longest relationship, and are you on any dating apps?
	And that includes seeking arrangements.
	Go ahead.
	I am currently single.
	My longest relationship was about three years.
	And I currently just signed up on Hinge.
	I'm currently single.
	Longest relationship has also been three years.
	And I've been on Tinder and Bumble, but I don't really look at it.
	Tilt your microphone down towards you slightly.
	Sorry.
	You're good.
	Like that.
	And seeking arrangements and all?
	Hell no.
	No?
	Currently single.
	My longest relationship was two years.
	I'm not currently on any dating app, so you know, catch me outside, I guess.
	Okay.
	By the way, I just got to give a big shout out here to our boy, Michael Trillstein.
	Dropping 50 gifted subs.
	You're a fucking legend, dude.
	We're gonna have to.
	You probably just unlocked like at least four or five new emotes for us, so I'm gonna have to put your face on one of them.
	But yeah, big thank you, man.
	Really appreciate the support.
	You're a legend.
	Hold on.
	Grats me, boys.
	Thank you, man.
	Much appreciated.
	Go ahead.
	I'm currently single.
	My longest relationship was about a year and a half, and I'm not on any dating apps.
	Have you ever been on the dating app?
	No.
	Okay.
	Never.
	No.
	You haven't even downloaded it.
	No.
	I'm single.
	My longest relationship was like two weeks.
	That's so bad.
	Pull the microphone a bit closer towards you.
	Pull it in.
	There you go.
	Drag it.
	Keep dragging.
	There you go.
	Perfect.
	And I'm on Tinder.
	Two weeks is your longest relationship.
	Yeah, I can't.
	How old are you guys?
	I'm 19.
	19.
	So the longest period of time you've continued to see someone is two weeks.
	As like an actual boyfriend?
	Yeah.
	Wait, you've had a boyfriend, but it only lasted two weeks?
	Yeah.
	So were you seeing him before?
	Like, what was the total time you were seeing the two-week guy?
	Total?
	What do you mean?
	Well, because usually before you become boyfriend with someone, boyfriend, girlfriend.
	Oh, it was like a few days.
	And then it was really short.
	Kind of sucked.
	Wait, hold on.
	Hold on.
	You move quick.
	Yeah.
	you were only seeing him for a few days and then yeah i like It was super fast.
	I like met him.
	And then a few days later, he asked me to be his girlfriend.
	I was like, okay.
	And then it lasted two weeks.
	What happened?
	How old were you?
	Sorry.
	I was 16.
	Okay, that's okay.
	Yeah, that sounds very typical.
	Typical high school relationships.
	I don't count high school relationships.
	I had a relationship in high school last three days.
	I just decided after three days, I don't like you anymore.
	You just like it.
	Bye.
	Yikes.
	But okay, so.
	Two weeks?
	Yes.
	But have you.
	It doesn't have to be like official, but like the longest duration of time that you've consecutively seen someone.
	Two weeks.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Should we.
	Chat.
	Do we dive into that?
	Should we dive into that, chat?
	Why do you, are you not interested in something more serious?
	How do you explain that?
	No, it just like doesn't.
	Nothing.
	But even like now, like I have.
	Because I haven't gotten in a relationship since then.
	Okay.
	It just doesn't work out for me.
	It takes time to find the right one.
	Yeah.
	Like, don't just like sow.
	Be picky.
	Be picky.
	It's good to be thinking.
	I'm also 16.
	So it's a year of time.
	Well, no.
	She's just 16.
	No, she was 16.
	Oh, you were 16, right?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	But it's not so much that specific scenario.
	It's just the longest period of time since then.
	That's the longest ever.
	Like there hasn't been a guy come along, you didn't make it to three weeks?
	Not like, it wasn't like just one.
	Wait, so there were multiple guys at the same time?
	Well, like, because I was like single.
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	So it wasn't like just seeing one person.
	But like, let's say you're, okay, you were seeing three guys, that's fine.
	But let's say, what was the length of time that you were seeing a guy?
	It doesn't need to be monogamous.
	Like, still.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	We're moving on.
	We're going to come back to that, though, guys.
	I'm single.
	Into the mic.
	Come closer.
	I'm single, and my longest relationship was zero days.
	And I'm not on dating apps.
	Your longest relationship was zero days.
	So you've.
	Zero days.
	Yeah.
	That's fine.
	So you've never been with someone?
	No.
	Not in a relationship.
	No.
	So you're a virgin?
	Well, then it's at least one day.
	No.
	Yeah.
	Wait, what?
	No.
	Well, I guess I did say longest relationships.
	Yeah, what are you saying?
	She just hasn't been in a relationship.
	Yeah.
	But like, okay, have you seen a guy?
	And I'm not saying in a relationship, but have you continued to see a guy for like a period of three weeks?
	No.
	No, no, no.
	But have you seen a guy for a period of time?
	Like, hung out with him for three weeks?
	Like, you've hung out, say, seven times and then you ghosted each other or some shit like that.
	No.
	So only one night stands for you.
	Yeah.
	Okay, fair enough.
	And as you should.
	Yeah.
	As she should.
	As she should.
	Yeah.
	She can make whatever choices she wants.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	I am.
	Wait.
	What was they saying?
	My current.
	Okay, I'm currently single.
	My longest relationship was almost, I think, almost two years.
	I've never used, and nor am I currently on a dating site.
	Okay.
	Rock and roll.
	Good times.
	By the way, we do have two guys.
	I was born in France.
	I'm French.
	We have two French girls at the table.
	Guys, again, well, it's a World War I uniform, but it is a German.
	This is the German World War I uniform.
	So anybody been watching All Quiet on the Western Front?
	Okay, anyways, moving on.
	Should we speak French?
	Tupac Francais?
	Ace biencia.
	Okay, moving on.
	So.
	C'est entre bon, que cheon.
	They're telling you to put the helmet on.
	Shit.
	What?
	Yeah, helmet.
	Helmet on.
	Helmet.
	Commit to the helmet.
	Helmet.
	Guys, I need a.
	I'm going to need a.
	Let me think.
	I'm going to need a certain super chat to put the helmet on.
	Let's just do $69.
	$69 soup chat.
	I'm going to put the helmet on.
	All right, let me do some soup chats and then I'll move into my next question.
	So, yo, Michael Trilstein here.
	Oh, wait.
	Okay, I'll pull this one up.
	Yo, just star them once they come up.
	Michael Trilstein, thank you for the $10 soup chat, man.
	Much appreciated.
	Guys, I'm not rich.
	I just choose to invest in people I love.
	I believe in people more than stocks.
	There are still good people in the world.
	Brian is one of them.
	Michael Trilstein, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	It's very kind of you, good sir.
	By the way, guys, Michael Trillstein will be on the show next week.
	So mark your calendars for the Trillstein show.
	Was it Thursday, right?
	No, wait.
	You're coming on Tuesday, if I recall.
	I need to check my bookings.
	And then we got Michael Trilstein again with the $10 soup chat.
	Brian, draw me like one of your French girls wearing this, wearing only this.
	I believe that is a Titanic reference.
	So, oh gosh, okay.
	By the way, Dayvon Jackson, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
	I see your new one that just came in.
	Really appreciate the support.
	Michael, really appreciate the support, Dayvon.
	As she should, she should be embarrassed, shaking my damn head.
	Send the asteroid, please.
	Would you like to respond to that?
	To your comment earlier about, like, as she should, stay to a one-night stand.
	Oh, send the asteroid to me?
	Like, do you want to respond?
	Is the comment saying that she should be embarrassed for having a one-night stand?
	No, that, or that I should be embarrassed.
	Your comment was implied to be embarrassing.
	Yeah, apparently.
	Do you want to respond to Dayvon Jackson?
	Sure.
	What would you like to say?
	Okay, go ahead.
	Whenever you're ready.
	Well, I just think that I was supporting the girls at the table like we should be doing.
	It's not that deep.
	It's not that deep.
	I mean, women.
	Girls can do whatever the fuck they want with the girls.
	Whatever the fuck they want.
	So, whatever.
	I mean, women supporting women.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	We all support each other.
	We're just trying to build some confidence in this group.
	I don't think that it's something to dive that deep into, you know.
	We're going to come back to that discussion.
	But, Dave On.
	By the way, Dayvon, I want to, I don't know if you see right here, you know, there's the Mike Davis thing.
	I want to add you to that.
	I'm going to add Trillstein to it too.
	Dave On, though, I was trying to take your profile picture and download it, but it's very low quality.
	So if you can email me or DM at whatever, we're going to get you.
	If you want to send me the one that's your current profile picture, DM it to at whatever on Instagram, and I will add you to the picture frame gang.
	Okay.
	Thank you, man.
	Sorry.
	All right, we've got Dayvon Jackson with the $69 soup chat helmet king.
	All right.
	I'm not going to wear it for the whole show, but I will wear it for a decent time.
	Goddamn.
	All right.
	Satisfied?
	I'll keep it on for a period of time.
	By the way, guys, World War I, all the freaking woke people out there, it's a World War I uniform.
	Same with the helmet.
	Okay.
	The bad guy in World War I is a bit more ambiguous than World War II.
	Okay.
	Dayvonne, thank you for the big $69 soup chat.
	Really appreciate your support, man.
	Like I said, DM me your profile picture in high-res and I'll get you added to the picture frame gang.
	We've got Red Misfit here with the $10 Soup Chat.
	Can you go around the table and ask if any of the girls are biCurious?
	Yeah, we can do that right now.
	Are any of you bi or bi curious?
	No.
	No.
	I am bi.
	Okay.
	I'm not.
	You have your answer.
	Okay.
	Red Misfit.
	Thank you for the $10 soup chat.
	Word.
	So you're bi.
	Yeah.
	Do you prefer men or women?
	I prefer men.
	Okay.
	Like, if you had to give it a percentage, what would you break it down by?
	Like, is it 30% women, 70% men?
	In terms of your leanings?
	I feel like it's like who I see more or like.
	Sure.
	Or just who you're more attracted to.
	Who I'm more attracted to.
	Feel like women are just more attractive to me, but I see more men just because all right.
	Yeah.
	Rock and roll.
	We got Michael Trilstein here with the big $100 soup chat.
	Dude, you're a fucking legend.
	Thank you for the support, man.
	Was this $69?
	Maybe I hit the wrong button.
	Boom!
	Ninja Luz.
	Thank you, man.
	Much appreciated.
	You're a legend.
	Dayvonne Jackson with the $10 Super Chat.
	You're free to do what you want.
	We are free to judge you for it.
	So, Dayvon, I believe this is in response to would you like to respond to Dayvon Jackson?
	You're free to do what you want.
	No, honestly.
	No.
	You don't want to respond to.
	I don't feel like that needs a response.
	I mean, like, say, yeah, like, it doesn't need a response.
	Okay.
	You want to respond to it?
	I don't know.
	I mean, I guess I could.
	Okay.
	So, the initial thing was you were saying to her, kind of, you go, girl, sleep with whoever you want.
	Sort of.
	Kind of.
	I don't want to put words in your mouth.
	What was your original thing?
	I mean, I think as long as you're being safe.
	I mean, can you be safe if you're casually sleeping with a bunch of people?
	And I'm not saying that that's the case, but well, I don't know what her exact circumstances were.
	Yeah, do you want to tell us what the just to give us some context?
	That's not my business.
	I was just kind of.
	Eh, bien tou doi vrémond.
	Shit, I can't say this in French.
	What do you want to say?
	C'est touple?
	Dier.
	No.
	Parlé.
	Okay.
	I don't want to say that.
	All right.
	Okay.
	All right.
	All right.
	So let me get this last super chat.
	Eric, can you highlight up?
	I feel like you can be as safe as you can.
	Like, you know.
	I think Michael Trilstein had one.
	There we go.
	Michael Trilstein, thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
	130 gifted memberships.
	Merry Christmas.
	Thank you, man.
	Wait, hold on.
	But shouldn't you.
	Hanukkah?
	Hello?
	Okay.
	Anyways, moving on.
	Thank you, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	You're a legend.
	Good sir.
	Okay, so I think I had one other question.
	Okay, we'll come back to that.
	So my first question.
	Does somebody know this girl?
	I don't know.
	No.
	Yeah, that's my friend.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	What's up, hey, please?
	So, first question.
	This is going to be a tough one.
	This fucking helmet is so uncomfortable.
	Okay.
	Are women justified in asking for a man who is honest, authentic, real, genuine if that woman uses face filters, Photoshop, has plastic surgery, and cakes on makeup?
	Can you repeat this?
	Yes.
	Wait.
	So are you saying, like, are women entitled to say, I want this, this, and this in a man, like all this, if they do those things that you listed?
	Or if they like accentuate their own features?
	Well, yes.
	Are they justified in asking?
	And I'll go around the table on it, but are they justified in asking for it?
	Or would you consider it hypocritical for a woman to ask for a man who's honest, authentic, real, genuine?
	The two keywords here are genuine and authentic.
	If they use face filters, Photoshop, have plastic surgery, and kick on makeup.
	Go ahead.
	I think if you're talking to somebody that you have a comfortable relationship with, that's an easy conversation, and you should be open about it.
	But if it's somebody random, I just met you, and I'm going to ask that question, I think it's a little rude.
	Maybe if you're friends, you can talk about it, but I wouldn't ask that to strangers.
	Ask what?
	What do you mean?
	If you're just a random guy and you're like, hey, are you photoshopping your photo?
	Like, okay, how does that information benefit you?
	Versus if you're a guy I'm dating and you want to know, are you photoshopping your photos?
	Then we'll have that conversation.
	But not with strangers.
	Well, that's not so much the question.
	Okay.
	What was the question?
	That's how I interpreted it.
	It's not so much would in a relationship a guy be asking those questions.
	It's okay, for example, oftentimes you'll see women on dating apps who say they want a guy who's authentic, genuine, honest.
	But is it fair to a woman, fair for a woman to want these things or be requesting these things if they are inauthentic and in terms of if you're presenting as fake?
	You're presenting yourself as fake.
	right because here i'll pull up some eric can you pull up the uh i i there's some screenshot examples here that were found online so So she's saying I'm looking for a real genuine man fake lashes, maybe fake lips, full face of makeup, filtered.
	Next one, Eric.
	She's looking, I go crazy for authenticity, fake nails, fake lashes, full face of makeup.
	Hold on.
	Okay, well, just leave it there.
	That's fine.
	You're not materialistic.
	You should leave a comment if you're not materialistic or genuine.
	Go to the next one, Eric.
	This is the same girl.
	So full face of makeup, fake lashes, filter, fake nails.
	Next one.
	Same thing.
	Filter, full face, maybe full face of makeup, fake nails.
	Next one.
	And then green flags I look for genuine.
	Fake lashes, fake hair color, full face of makeup, filter, next one.
	Green flat, same, same girl, just different photo.
	Fake lashes, full face of makeup, filter, her hair.
	Yeah, that's the last one.
	So they're on dating apps.
	They're asking, hey, I want a guy who's authentic.
	I want a guy who's genuine, yet they are anything but.
	What do you think about that?
	Those pictures, you can see that they're obviously photoshopped.
	They're edited.
	So maybe take the person out in person and get to know them and see if what they're presenting on the photos is how they present themselves in real life.
	If they have an overly photoshopped photo and then in real life they're catfishing you and they look nothing like that, that's very ingenuine.
	So take the person out.
	See how they are, you know, chemistry-wise.
	Don't just base it on the photo.
	But some men are not, I mean, some men are not savvy enough to necessarily understand how, I mean, those were some extreme examples, but some men, like with the filters and the makeup, like we're not, that might not be what you actually look like.
	So to me, it's sort of, I consider it to be a deception.
	And you say, well, take them out, but like, it's kind of us as men, we'd rather know what you look like proper before we commit to a date.
	But go ahead.
	I'll let the table answer.
	Go ahead.
	You're taking.
	Oh, I thought she was still answering.
	Unless you, do you have more?
	Nope.
	I completely agree.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	No, Into the mic.
	Oh, sorry, yeah.
	I totally get like what, how like I guess I could say like I understand the like men's perspective of wanting to like see the genuine, like that, the genuine person, and I understand how like makeup can kind of seem fake, But I also I feel like I agree with like take them out and like get to know them, Because I feel like with makeup comes a lot of like insecurities,
	like a lot of girls do makeup because they're insecure.
	But yeah, I feel like I could agree to you as well.
	I don't feel like there's a right or wrong way to answer that question because I think it's really just up to your you know you gather your own insight based on how you want to feel about it and how you perceive it.
	I feel like you know and I can understand like maybe some men feel like they're being catfished out there but I also feel like if you're just not sure then maybe swipe the other way and you know find something you know on the other dating app that is sure.
	But I don't feel like women are out here wearing makeup to necessarily catfish.
	I'm not wearing makeup because I feel like I'm trying to cover up anything.
	I'm wearing makeup because I want to enhance my beauty.
	You know what I mean?
	And I feel like it's not covering up.
	I feel like me personally, I'm wearing my makeup.
	If I took it off, I don't look that much different.
	I feel like a lot of women here too wouldn't feel that way.
	And I just, I don't know, I view it very different, I suppose.
	Okay.
	I mean, I understand a man's point of view, but I think, like, if you're, again, like, if you're not sure if a girl is faking something or not, and you're just not interested in that and you think she's being a hypocrite, then don't even put yourself in the situation to judge a woman for what she does.
	Yeah.
	Don't judge a woman for what she does.
	What do you mean?
	Like, you can judge her, and that's obviously like what you are doing on dating apps, but like, don't put yourself in the situation that's going to make you feel like you're being lied to.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I kind of agree with everyone saying.
	I don't really.
	You have your own independent thoughts, I'm sure.
	I don't really.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Okay, so let me try to frame it in a slightly different way.
	So I don't think it's a mystery to anyone, to both men or women, that, and this is the case for both men and women, that a primary attraction trigger for both sexes is physical appearance.
	Makeup is ultimately a lie to a degree.
	So now, there's, if you put on a little bit of mascara or some eyeliner versus full face of makeup, there's obviously a spectrum to how much makeup you're wearing, but seeing as it's a dating app and in the context of dating, physical appearance for both sexes is important.
	Do you feel that for on a dating app, it's kind of unfair to just be strictly using these super heavily filtered, super heavily makeup photos?
	Because you're essentially kind of, especially, I mean, a lot of the photos I showed, it was full face of makeup, full face of makeup, filters.
	It's kind of deceptive.
	Yeah.
	I don't mean to like cut you off, but if I could just kind of invert myself, I feel like it's kind of a double, you know, edge sword.
	I mean, you know, not every man who's out there posting is 6'9.
	You know, maybe he's 5'11.
	Maybe he's a little huskier in his photos.
	You know, you're not gonna go out on these dates, I think, like with the highest expectations.
	And I feel like, you know, just like in anything in life, you're taking a risk, you know?
	And I feel like, again, if you're just not sure, maybe just keep on swiping.
	And I just, I don't, you know, I don't, I don't think it's that, I can understand the catfishing aspect of it, and I can understand, you know, the aspects of that.
	But again, you know, and I feel like if you're just a man and you're not really keen on a woman who's wearing a lot of makeup, then why are you, you know, swiping on the women who are making a lot of money, wearing a lot of makeup in their photos or presenting a certain way, you know?
	And I, and I feel like, you know, I get it, I do, but I just, I, you know, again, I feel like you could take yourself out of that really easily.
	Sure, yeah.
	I mean, certainly nothing obliges men to swipe on women that they think could be that are wearing too much makeup for their taste, right?
	But speaking outside of just this singular situation where you could advise a guy, hey, if you just, if you're not into the super heavy makeup look, just don't swipe on her.
	But I don't know, to me, even like there is a component of inauthenticity when specific, look, if you're on Instagram, Photoshop, if you want to Photoshop the shit out of your stuff, whatever, that's fine.
	But a dating app is a very specific place where you're trying to potentially attract a partner.
	And so to specifically, selectively select photos where you're sort of, to a degree, misrepresenting your appearance by using filters and cake.
	That's kind of the thing.
	You know, you want to attract somebody, you want to lure somebody in, you know what I mean?
	And I kind of see where you're going with it.
	But I don't know.
	I just, I'm not, I'm having, I want to, I want you to talk more, but I'm having a hard time just being like, just swipe away, you know, I don't know.
	Yeah.
	Well, I certainly think you should put your best foot forward.
	You shouldn't look like a slob and disheveled in your dating photos.
	But I think if you go too far to the extreme, then I think it's sort of generally speaking, in the same way that I agree with you, if a guy said he was six feet, but he's actually 5'9, that would be dishonest.
	And that is, yeah, and that's a complaint that women have.
	Like, hey, these guys are fucking capping about their height.
	You're not 6'1, you're 5'9, you know?
	So that's sort of, I think, the territory.
	You know, that's you're on a dating app, you know, you're not meeting somebody in person.
	I mean, you have to get yourself out there.
	Go ahead.
	At the end of the day, it's still like a platform that you're on.
	And no matter what, like someone's going to lie if they have the opportunity.
	Sorry.
	No, no, I just feel like if you're on one of these platforms, like you have to know the risk that there are going to be catfish and there are going to be people who are saying they are something and you're not.
	It's just the internet.
	And I feel like if you're going to sign up for a dating app, like you have to know what you're going to be expecting.
	Okay.
	But so I guess kind of to add to this with the whole height thing, a woman who wears, or sorry, or a woman who has crazy filters on her photos in the dating apps, who's face tuning, photoshopping, full face makeup, whatever.
	Can she be upset when she ends up on a date with a guy who says he's six feet, but is actually 5'7 ⁇ ?
	Can she be upset?
	She, I think she could, you know, but I also just feel like you should just be honest, you know, on the date, you know, from the get go, if you meet somebody, you're not feeling it, you know, you know what?
	Nothing personal, no hard feelings.
	It's just, I'm not feeling it.
	You know, there's a really, to me, it's just very easy to kind of split off from.
	And I, you know, I feel like I don't know what man or woman out here is, you know, looking at photos and being like, that isn't photoshopped or that doesn't have a filter.
	You know, like, I feel like it's pretty easy to tell.
	And you can kind of expect and maybe take with a grain of salt.
	Like, you know, oh, this person might not exactly present the way that they do, but I'm still attracted to it.
	Or maybe I'm not, you know?
	Okay.
	Let's continue on so everyone can give their.
	Did you want to come in at all?
	Or what about you?
	For me, like, if you don't want to have catfish people, just don't swipe right.
	Just like pass through them.
	Like, if you don't want fake people, just don't add them.
	okay um i'm kind of conflicted on this one just because i know you compared a lot of like photoshop to being the same like amount of fakeness of okay correct me if i'm wrong correct me if i'm wrong Sure.
	But like Photoshop being the equivalent to wearing fake eyelashes and fake nails, I don't think they're on the same level.
	No, that definitely like Photoshopping, if you're bringing in your waist, you're like boosting the size of your breasts, your ass, like that's definitely on a different level.
	Like there's definitely a spectrum to it.
	Okay, that's understood.
	In the same way that a woman who's just wearing a bit of eyeliner, just speaking about makeup, it's much less than if it's like full-on face with contouring and concealer.
	Like there's obviously levels to it.
	And I think Photoshop is probably the biggest bad guy in this where you're like morphing your body and changing your jawline.
	That shit's pretty egregious, I think.
	I mean, I get that.
	Like, as a woman, if I were on a dating site, which I'm not, and I showed up to a date and the man didn't look anything like his profile picture, like, obviously thoughts would run through my mind.
	I would be like, what the fuck?
	Wait, I can coast, right?
	Yeah, you can coast.
	Okay, I would be like, what the fuck is going on?
	But what I was going to say is that these people that photoshop or have plastic surgery or do like whatever to themselves, people want that.
	Like, there are people out there who are looking for that.
	And so that's cool.
	And like, if they- Erroneous!
	Erroneous.
	Wait, people, hold on.
	Wait, what did that even just say?
	Don't worry about it.
	Wait, so people are looking for the heavily makeup and like plastic shit.
	Some people are.
	I love that shit.
	Some men want a Barbie.
	They do.
	They do.
	It's because that's what society portrays.
	Like, we look at Kardashian.
	Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	I would say the majority of men prefer a woman with no or minimal makeup and no plastic surgery.
	In fact, let's ask the chat here.
	Chat, I'm going to ask you two questions.
	The first one is going to be about plastic surgery.
	Guys, one in the chat, if you dislike plastic surgery on a woman.
	Two in the chat if you're for plastic surgery.
	One in the chat if you like plastic surgery on the woman.
	So fake lips, fake butt, BBL.
	Two in the chat if you dislike that.
	We're getting a lot of ones.
	Okay, can I ask a question?
	Not to the chat, just to you.
	Hold.
	Yeah, yeah, just one sec.
	Let's see what the chat.
	Okay, we got a lot of ones, a lot of the ones, a lot of the ones here.
	We got one guy with a two.
	A couple with what?
	Come on, y'all.
	Amplified truth, you're full of shit.
	All plastic surgery is that bad.
	Yeah, you have like a horrific scar on your face and now you want it removed.
	Or maybe you don't like a bump on your nose and you want it gone.
	Or, you know, you don't like your lips.
	You're doing this, you know, and you can't do that.
	Well, there's degrees.
	There's definitely limits to this.
	Like BBL.
	Right.
	That shit looks weird.
	I think BBL is.
	Some men do that.
	Some men want that.
	There are men though.
	Kim Kardashian has a BBL and everybody.
	Right.
	Millions of people.
	And now men are like upset.
	Want that to be the standard.
	And she has unfortunately probably influenced who knows how many thousands of women to follow in her footsteps and get a ridiculous looking plastic surgery.
	But so there's definitely levels to it.
	But I mean, just there, yeah, there's, I mean, plastic surgery initially was to like people who had severe like facial deformities and that sort of stuff.
	That's different though.
	Like, you know, people actually, interestingly enough, people coming back from World War I were coming back with their half their face caved in.
	That's a scenario where I think plastic surgery is appropriate.
	Well, yeah, they're still trying to get some too, you know?
	Like, they have to suffer because they got half their face blown off.
	Yeah, but so, and I'll get to your thing in just a sec.
	And then, guys, one, this is related to makeup.
	Question for the chat.
	One in the chat, if you prefer the no makeup look, so like no makeup, a girl who doesn't wear makeup, or do you prefer a girl who wears makeup?
	Two in the chat for that.
	One in the chat, prefer no makeup.
	Two in the chat, you prefer a girl with makeup.
	All right, we got some ones coming in.
	Ones, ones, ones.
	1.5.
	Okay, he's half and half there.
	We got one, two, two, one, one, one, two.
	Okay, cool, cool.
	Thanks, guys.
	What was your thing you wanted to come in on?
	I might have lost it.
	It's okay.
	No.
	No, wait, no, wait, I got it.
	You got it.
	Okay, go ahead.
	I got it.
	Well, I was just kind of adding on to what Ari was saying about how this whole BBL kind of thing that's been going on plays a big part in us as women and our confidence, I feel like, in my opinion, just because she was saying that that's kind of what society portrays to be as like what they want.
	So I don't know.
	No, I agree with you.
	I think nowadays men, like especially, they want a fat ass or they want big tits.
	They want this.
	And now you see all these girls going to the gym, killing themselves, doing all these squats, doing these weights.
	And I'm all, you know, for supporting how you want to look and how you want to feel.
	I think the gym's really important.
	But again, like you do have a lot of these women now who are like, fuck, I don't have that, you know?
	And then it's, you know, you get men who are like, uh-huh, I'm kind of bummed that you don't, you know, and it's like, sorry?
	Like, it wasn't modified this way.
	It's just built this way, you know?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I think when it comes to TNA, titanas, men want that naturally.
	But what if you don't have that naturally, you know?
	Like, we don't want fake, fake tits, fake ass, like, it just, I don't know.
	It doesn't, it doesn't look right.
	Especially the BBL.
	It just does not look right.
	It looks weird.
	The thighs are just not matching up.
	It's not you aesthetically.
	Yeah.
	To most men, aesthetically.
	I would completely disagree.
	And I think, I mean, do any woman here, any women here at the table might agree with me?
	Do BBLs look ridiculous?
	Anybody?
	Yes, I think I agree with you.
	Thank you.
	I've seen some botches.
	I agree.
	I've seen some of that.
	The way that the butt goes into the legs, it's just like a big diaper, skinny legs.
	At least work your quads so that they can match the butt.
	There you go.
	If you want to get a BBL, then go for it.
	That's your problem.
	I don't like it.
	I'd rather do some squats.
	It's so different to me because I don't know.
	I work around a lot of men for a living.
	I've grown up a lot around men and you know a lot of them their preferred thing is you know a big butt or big boobs and I feel like well you're right Men do like big butts and big boobs.
	But, well, especially with the butt, naturally.
	But not every girl has that naturally.
	Yeah.
	Sure, of course.
	But I would say most men would prefer a woman with like a more petite butt than a BBL.
	We can ask that chat.
	Chat?
	Okay.
	I don't even know how to frame the question, but I'd say most men would, like, if given the choice, honestly, for me, given the choice, I'd prefer a girl with pancakes.
	Like, no ass.
	I prefer a girl with no ass than the BBL.
	Because it just, it's weird.
	In the same way that, like, for example, for me, I had seen this girl and she had had a like a tummy tuck.
	Like, and she was never even like overweight or anything, but she just said, oh, I have like maybe five or ten pounds of this trouble area in my lower stomach.
	And it just, like, it looked dehydrated.
	It looked like weird.
	And yeah, her tummy was flat, but I was like, I would prefer like a little chub, to be honest.
	A little muffin-talk.
	Yeah, give me a little, a little, a bit of rolls over.
	And maybe I'm enlightened.
	I don't know.
	Give me rules over a flat tummy tuck stomach, you know, and I feel like she feels better about it.
	She feels more confident.
	She feels more empowered.
	And, you know, there's a man out there who's going to like it, you know?
	Sure.
	There are men out there who like it, but I don't think it's the majority of men.
	Maybe not.
	I think if you ask most men, they prefer natural.
	Even if natural is not ideal, they still prefer natural.
	But at the end of the day, are you dating her or marrying her for her body?
	Like, I think if you get to know her as a person better, you'll either accept her BBL and her fake boobs and you want to be with her for her, or if you don't want that, move on.
	Go to what you'd like.
	Well, yeah, I mean, for me, I don't think I would.
	I can't imagine having a serious long-term relationship or a marriage with someone who has fake tits and a BBL.
	I just, to me, it's almost a red flag because I think that there's like a certain like personality that's going to lean towards undergoing those sorts of procedures.
	Can I add something?
	I just, I'm a little concerned because we're- With what?
	I see all these chats that are like, natural bodies are the best.
	Like, I love natural bodies.
	Into the microphone.
	What?
	Into the microphone.
	Oh, into my bad.
	Go ahead.
	Like, natural is always better.
	That's what someone said right there, which is great.
	That's your opinion.
	But how come before this topic was brought up, everyone was commenting stuff about the people sitting here about?
	Well, I don't know what they were saying.
	All I'm saying is it's very controversial when you go from making comments about someone's appearance or weight and then saying that your claim is your favorite thing.
	Like, does that make sense to you?
	Well, you can be you can be thin and natural.
	Wait, I'm not sure what you're talking about.
	I think her point is in, like, correct me if I'm wrong.
	Yeah.
	I think she, before this topic was brought up, comments were, people were commenting on the bodies of people here.
	But now that this topic is brought up, everybody's like, oh my god, yeah, like skinny, like keep your body like natural and all that.
	So it's kind of like, what's the word?
	Hypocritical, huh?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Contradictory?
	Is that what you're saying?
	Yeah, it's contradicting and like kind of hypocritical in a way.
	Well, I mean, I can't speak to what chat was saying before the show.
	I don't know.
	Active with this so they can respond.
	I think this is just a topic that, you know, you it's agree to disagree and you agree and you disagree.
	Word.
	Okay, we got some super chats here.
	We got some super chats.
	All right.
	Let's see where I was.
	I think we were here.
	Okay.
	We got Jay.
	Thank you for the $10 super chat.
	30 foes.
	Stop asking yourself what you can bring to the table.
	Instead, be the table by laying on all four and saying nothing.
	Okay, not sure what.
	Mike Davis, good to see you, man.
	Thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
	Genuine is overrated.
	Too many lazy fat bozos, welfare recipients being genuine to their lazy fat bozo selves.
	Society can use some more motivated fakes.
	Okay.
	Well, there you go.
	Mike Davis, thank you for the $10 super chat.
	Good to see you.
	By the way, I don't know if you know this, but we got you're back there somewhere.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Appreciate the support.
	Okay.
	Just a reminder, guys, $10 and up for the super chats.
	To be read.
	If you want, we'll show 10 and under, but to be read, 10 and up.
	Bobby Balsara, thank you for the $10, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you for the support.
	One of my goals is to be a guest on the podcast.
	Also, question for everybody, how many consistent dates does it take to realize y'all?
	Wait, does it to realize y'all to realize what?
	I think he's trying to get a lot of people.
	This person might be the one.
	Also, RIP takeoff.
	Oh, right, because he got, yeah.
	Yeah, he.
	RIP takeoff.
	R.I.P.'s in the chat.
	For real.
	Okay, so how many dates does it take to realize the one?
	I mean, we can go around the table on this.
	Go ahead.
	I would say a couple weeks, couple months.
	I don't know.
	I haven't found the one, so I'm not really sure.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I mean, yeah, I haven't really found the one yet.
	There's people in mind, but I would say probably like three months at least.
	Okay.
	I really think it's different for everybody.
	I don't think there's a right answer to that because I feel like some of the things.
	Well, just in your case.
	In my case?
	And also I feel like the one That's a very Maybe I think It's a very serious thing.
	Yeah, like...
	Future husband.
	Future husband material.
	Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
	Or love, like, how long does it take you to fall in love with someone?
	But I mean, that varies too.
	I think for me, it took a couple of months.
	At least like maybe to presently know that I was like actively in love with this person, you know, and I was like, oh, shit.
	How many?
	Go ahead.
	I think for me personally, I would say like a couple months.
	Sure, let's do that.
	Let's do like month range.
	Go ahead.
	I think like half a year, like six months.
	Okay.
	Yeah, a couple months.
	I would say it's probably like a couple months.
	I was going to say the same thing.
	Okay.
	Yay.
	Good times.
	Yeah, I think, I mean, the way I take it, like to fall in love, probably somewhere between like three to six months.
	All right, Dave on Jackson, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
	Appreciate the support, man.
	You're a legend.
	Fixing a defect is not what he was referring to.
	There's thousands of botched BBLs, lip fillers, Botox that makes you look like an alien.
	Natural beauty greater than manufactured beauty every time.
	Dayvon, thank you for the $10 super chat.
	Really appreciate the support.
	Yeah, and that's the other thing with the plastic surgery is you can, it can be botched.
	And then you just, I don't know, the fake lips.
	Anyone here have ever had.
	Anybody?
	Okay.
	We've got a natural-ish panel going here.
	I'm too afraid of needles.
	What is natural-ish?
	Yeah, what is that?
	Yeah, what is that?
	I don't know.
	But no, no, say it.
	Well, I mean, I only asked about the lip fillers, right?
	Yeah.
	So I don't know.
	Maybe, does anyone, has anyone here had any plastic surgery?
	No, but.
	All right, so we got natural panels.
	Just the cake on my face.
	We got the natural pills.
	Honestly, lip fillers to me look so weird.
	Guys, in the chat, I don't know if you agree.
	Lip fillers look so like it makes you less you look weird.
	Like it makes you look you are less attractive with lip fillers.
	I don't know.
	I kind of disagree.
	Yeah, I agree.
	No, give me a girl with a thin top lip.
	The fucking opinion.
	No, no, no.
	Like thin top lip over lip filler.
	I only go ahead.
	I only disagree because I did have a friend and she's beautiful on her own.
	She really is.
	But she had very thin lips.
	She didn't like them.
	And, you know, they weren't anything special, if I'm being honest.
	And she got a very acute, you know, just lip filler.
	You couldn't really even tell that she had work done.
	But it just, like, it enhanced a lot of her features.
	It really did.
	Yeah.
	And I just, you know, I don't know.
	I don't feel like there's anything wrong with that.
	And there's nothing wrong with being upfront about that, you know?
	I completely agree.
	Like, I know many people who have gone under the knife, like they say, and like under the needle.
	And it was to like fix.
	A little closer to the mic.
	Oh, sorry.
	It was to fix like their flaws.
	And like you were saying with your friend, like I have friends who didn't exactly like a specific part on their body.
	So they changed it to make them feel better.
	It wasn't for the attention of anybody else.
	It was just for their peer, like to make them feel better.
	I feel like at that, if it's what you want and if it's your body and you like it, then that's all that matters.
	I mean, so like, are you talking about fixing insecurities?
	I'm talking about everything.
	Like, yeah, fixing insecurities, because like you mentioned, your friend, she didn't really like her lips, so she changed it.
	And I feel like if it looks natural, then it's fine.
	Like, I definitely agree there's botched and like it can look really bad and like sometimes you're like, oh shit.
	But I feel like there's like a level to it.
	Okay.
	Word.
	Word.
	Yeah, I mean, ultimately, just, and maybe we can ask the chat, guys, even if, okay, if you had a pick, she has basically no upper lip versus she has fake lips.
	Which do you pick?
	You have to either go with the girl with small or no upper lip or fake lips.
	No lips.
	I'm going to go with thin lip.
	I'm going to go with thin lip.
	Anything fake is fake, no bueno.
	As long as she has an Audi, you're good to go, Brian.
	Okay, that's another conversation.
	To each their own, I guess.
	Word?
	Word.
	Okay, so let's see.
	Hold on.
	Dayvonne Jackson, thank you $10 Super Chat.
	What if a guy isn't 6'4 naturally?
	It's tough cookies.
	Media perpetuates the idea that you need to pay for your beauty because women buying things drives a large portion of the economy.
	What does that have to do with being 6'4?
	Yeah, what?
	Yeah, I'm trying to parse this Dayvon Jackson.
	But I mean, we love a short king, too.
	I mean, you know, I just been with short guys.
	I'm like 5'7.
	I've been with a guy that's shorter than me.
	I have been.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Yeah, I have been.
	Yeah.
	I mean, there's nothing wrong with it.
	There's nothing wrong with it.
	No, there isn't anything wrong with it.
	But the vast majority of women probably have a height preference for a guy who's at least taller than them.
	Most women.
	Yeah.
	Not all women.
	I mean, yeah.
	I mean, I think most women aren't specifically looking for a person that's like shorter than them.
	But like if they find a person that's shorter than them and they connect with them, obviously, like some women are going to be okay with that.
	Yeah, but I feel since the very initial stages of attraction are related to typically physical attraction for both men and women.
	Most women are going to like, if a guy's short, maybe I shouldn't say most.
	Maybe I should say most.
	I don't know.
	Let's say a lot of women are probably going to say, nope.
	Oh, shorter than me.
	Nope.
	Madison, I know you're dying to come in on this one.
	How tall are you, by the way?
	I'm like 5'3.
	Would you date a guy who's shorter than you?
	So like 5'1 King?
	It's rare.
	I've never seen that.
	I've never met a guy that's shorter than me.
	Okay.
	That's at least like old, you know?
	Okay.
	What the fuck?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay, well, you're not going to date those, so we don't have to worry about it.
	I've been with shorter guys.
	I think.
	What are you doing to each other?
	I don't know.
	I've never sat next to a sex doll before.
	Oh, my gosh.
	So what, do you have a height?
	Do you have a height preference?
	I like, like, okay, if I were to, like, bare minimum height.
	With like the shortest person.
	Six feet?
	No.
	Do you have a height?
	I go.
	I go under six feet.
	Okay.
	Because I feel like it's still like 5'9.
	Like, I still feel like kind of short compared to them.
	Sure.
	Kind of.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Oh, yeah, I guess.
	Yeah, you're shorter.
	Okay, we're gonna go around the table really quick.
	Bare minimum height for a guy for you.
	I'm 5'5, so I'd like him to be 5'5.
	At least.
	At least.
	Okay.
	But do you have a preference for taller than that?
	They're attractive, no doubt, but I would love to get to know the person.
	And if their personality speaks out and they're 5'3, 5'4, I'll give them a chance.
	All right, there you go.
	Yeah.
	Oh, just how tall are you and your height preference?
	I'm 5'8, and I guess if you're gonna be shorter than me, you have to be 5'8 and above.
	Like, or.
	Wait.
	Wait, go ahead.
	Well, I'm 5'8.5.
	I'm pushing 5'9.
	I don't know.
	I don't think I really have a general preference.
	I think ideally I'm looking for somebody who's a little taller than me, but I just don't really, I think I don't care, honestly.
	Okay.
	I mean, I'm 5'3 and I've dated someone who was like borderline, like a little bit shorter than me.
	Like it was kind of a topic of conversation every once in a while, like an argument.
	But wait, there's an argument?
	I mean, like you would bring it up or he would bring it up?
	Not like serious.
	I mean, I would joke around with him and be like, I'm taller than you today.
	Like, it's just, yeah.
	But.
	Oh, it stings.
	I think.
	Oh, it stings.
	You would joke about it with him?
	Yeah.
	What if he joked about your weight?
	Would you be offended by that?
	It depends on how long I've been seeing him or them.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	I hit him with a rebuttal, like, but you're still hitting it.
	Like, oh, like.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, if I'm comfortable with a person, like, if I've been dating for them, like, dating them for a long time, I'm pretty comfortable, like, insulting someone and then getting it back.
	The bedrock of a relationship.
	I think healthy bullying is a good thing.
	You have to be able to take a joke.
	You can't take everything seriously.
	Yeah, no, you gotta.
	Yeah, yeah, I agree with that.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Oh, you already went.
	Go ahead.
	What was the question?
	Eh, biente, escut.
	Yeah, I get it.
	Cap!
	centimeters yeah uh i'm five eight and for me just i don't know like um If you're a bit shorter than me, that's okay, but not too small.
	Not too small.
	Not too small.
	Okay.
	A petit?
	Yeah.
	Ah, okay.
	Etroy?
	Me and me?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, I would be biased to say, I mean, I was with the short guy.
	I was with the short guy.
	I could be fine.
	Yeah, like I did it, and it was fine.
	Okay, moving on.
	We got Mike Davis here with the $10 Soup Chat with plastic surgery.
	I don't really care as long as it's disclosed because if that kid comes out looking miscellaneous with a busted nose or her tits be melting in the sun, I'm out.
	Wait, what does that even mean?
	Tits melting in the sun?
	What does that mean?
	They're plastic plastic.
	They're plastic.
	Oh, silver.
	Yeah, I see.
	I see.
	Got it.
	They wouldn't actually melt.
	Word.
	I don't want to speak for men, but I feel like a lot of tall men out there want a woman who's shorter.
	I don't see a lot of.
	I don't see a lot of couples.
	Unless they're like a tall female and a tall man.
	It's not extremely tall, like extreme, like six, seven and up.
	Okay, well, that's not really likely, but Brian, what's your maximum for a girl that you date?
	Maximum, what?
	Height?
	Yeah.
	I feel like for guys, it's maximum.
	Do you prefer shorter or taller?
	Well, so, okay, I'll answer both of those.
	So I'm six feet.
	I don't have a maximum.
	I'll date a woman who's seven feet.
	And height-wise, I don't really have a minimum there either.
	Like, I'll date a dwarf.
	I'm not.
	I'm not even saying that to be.
	Like, what do you prefer to do?
	I will literally date a dwarf.
	My DMs are open.
	As far as preference, I do have a preference.
	I do have a preference towards shorter women.
	Okay.
	So you've been asking us what our preference is, but you're also, all of us have been saying, oh, we're open to shorter women.
	Why do I prefer shorter women?
	Like, why?
	Okay.
	Fun size, first off.
	You know, pick them up and throw them over there.
	Same thing.
	That's why I want to manage it.
	It's a little tall.
	Well, yeah.
	But it's not, for me, it's not a deal breaker.
	I'll date a woman who's 6'5.
	It's not a deal breaker.
	Whereas for some women, height, like if a guy's shorter or he's not, you know, a few inches taller, taller than you in heels or whatever, it can be a deal breaker for some women.
	Whereas for men, I think height is to a much lesser degree an important factor.
	But yeah, 4'11.
	Hit me up.
	If her height doesn't start with four, she ain't the one.
	Okay.
	So let's see.
	We have Dayvon Jackson here.
	Thank you guys so much for the support tonight, guys.
	A lot of super chats.
	Really appreciate it.
	Dave on Jackson, thank you for the $10 chat.
	Roasting you for being naturally ugly isn't the same as appreciating the naturally beautiful.
	The disconnect is you thinking you're Jesus.
	Dave on fucking going.
	I don't know who this is directed at.
	Thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
	By the way, reminder, send me your profile pic via Instagram.
	Okay.
	Lubin, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
	Can I get a...
	Yeah. I am.
	I'll let the girls do it.
	I'm not doing that shit.
	Go.
	Okay, Lubin, thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Z Corp Alpha with the big $50 Super Chat.
	Congrats to me, boys.
	Thank you, man.
	Really appreciate the support.
	The one is yourself.
	Love your own soul, and life will uncover itself with age.
	Ladies, enjoy your independence from an independent gentleman.
	Hey, good to see you back, Zach.
	Thank you very much.
	Appreciate it.
	Yeah, I like it.
	Yeah, he's invited, sort of.
	Z Corp, good to see you back, though.
	Appreciate it.
	It's been a couple shows since we've last seen you, man.
	Good to see you back in the chat.
	Are you still in the chat?
	Let us know if you're still in the chat because I have a question for you.
	Anyways, and lastly, we got Mike Davis, $10 Super Chat.
	Mike Davis, huh?
	$10 Super Chat.
	Brian, you a good dude, but what the fuck is up with your type wanting them pancakes and thin lips?
	A real man wants a baddie with a fatty.
	More cushion for the push.
	Hold on.
	Let me, Mr. Mike Davis, let me look directly into the camera, stare deeply into your eyes, those beautiful eyes of yours, and tell you, I like a big ass.
	I like big ass.
	The point I was making with the pancakes is that if I had to choose between a flat ass pancakes, no ass, versus a BBL, I would take the no ass over the BBL because I think BBLs look weird.
	Lips, nice plump lips are nice.
	Lips aren't a huge.
	I don't really care that much.
	I guess.
	Wait, what kind of lips are we talking about?
	We talk about labia or are we talking about, hmm?
	Anyways, I don't know.
	But let's see.
	Anyways, Mike Davis, appreciate the $10 Super Chat.
	Okay, we got Everyday Edgar with the 10 Does Super Chat as this giving 2010 Andrea vibes.
	How do you say your names?
	Aus Dies.
	Ausdies.
	Someone pinched you.
	Ow.
	Ausdies.
	Is that like Fin?
	Icelandic?
	Icelandic.
	Aha.
	Rock and roll.
	And Eric, can you just grab this last super chat while.
	Andrea.
	She used to be in some of my YouTube videos when I was doing the hidden camera comedy stuff back in the day.
	And we're just waiting for this last little super chat here.
	By the way, Eric, have you been pulling up any of the normal chats too?
	A few.
	Okay, yeah, just keep.
	Just pull up a few more if you can.
	Here, I got this one.
	Red Misfit, thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
	Really appreciate the support.
	Brian, I love it when you play the boot up sound when someone's zoned out or clearly wasn't paying attention.
	So funny, keep doing it.
	Hey, thank you for the feedback.
	I've got it ready to go, and I've got some new soundboard sounds.
	I've been reorganizing it, so maybe we'll get some tonight.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, so we got to get back to our next topic here.
	Actually, hold on.
	Sort of related to the topic of, you know, are people being genuine, authentic, whatever.
	What would you think about a man who on a dating app wore a muscle suit?
	Like he wore a muscle suit.
	It's like one of those ones you wear for Halloween.
	Like, you know, the ones that are just like stuffed, made of nothing.
	No, but it looked like realistic.
	So he looked.
	He looked muscular, but it was fake.
	I think you'd find out soon, you know, eventually, not soon, but eventually that it's not real.
	So I wouldn't like it, no?
	Same thing with like makeup and like plastic surgery.
	You're eventually going to see like them in person if you do end up pursuing them.
	So, I mean, yeah, I'm going to be a little freaked out.
	Okay.
	But rock and roll.
	Good times.
	I think I'd laugh and be like, is this serious?
	Are you just joking with me?
	Is this a Halloween presentation?
	Like, if it was a joke, like, I'd think it's funny.
	But, like, if it was serious, it's like anything else.
	But just quick yes or no, going around the panel.
	Do you find muscular men attractive?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yes, but not when it's too much.
	Yeah, not like full-on super steroids.
	But just like athletic.
	I don't want like the rock or anything.
	Yeah, he's.
	He's you.
	I mean, he's around shit.
	Okay.
	So, but would you date a guy who wore a muscle suit?
	So fake muscles is what you're saying.
	Yeah, he had a muscle suit on.
	And he was being serious.
	Yeah, I guess.
	No, I'd be like, no.
	I have a lot of questions, but no.
	It sounds like a lot of sweat.
	I'm going to pass.
	Yeah, no.
	No.
	Okay.
	So I feel like that's kind of an example.
	It might not be a perfect example, but that's how men feel.
	Very extreme.
	Yeah.
	That's how men feel.
	Hold on.
	Let me just finish.
	That's how men feel about some of women's deceptive face and body transforming practices.
	And y'all employ a lot of them.
	Not you guys, but some women.
	Okay, moving on.
	You know, because, okay, there's makeup, there's the high-waisted leggings that compress padded bras, plastic surgery, angles, lighting, Photoshop, FaceTune, filters.
	There's those pads for the push-up bra?
	Push-up bra.
	Push-up bra is an example.
	Okay.
	I need to move on to a different topic.
	Okay.
	What I'd like to do now is I want to open it up to you guys.
	Is there something dating related that you would like to get off your chest?
	Let me give you a couple prompts, right?
	So I do have one.
	So Maybe one thing that you wish men did differently, something that you don't get about men, there's a trend in dating that's annoying you, or maybe you want advice on a specific from either the panel, from me, when it comes to men or dating.
	Those are a couple different prompts, so however you want to take the question.
	Ozdisdis.
	Ausdies.
	The only thing that comes to mind is like the weirdest thing to happen on a first date.
	Okay.
	Tell us.
	I was walking on the beach in Laguna, and I had a pair of toms on, so you don't wear socks with those, right?
	Just like stinky feet.
	And as I was holding the shoes, the guy grabbed the shoes from me.
	He's like, oh, I'll hold them for you.
	I thought, oh, very much a gentleman, right?
	And then he lifts the shoes up to his face and he smells it and he goes, smells good.
	I was like, okay, that's a red flag.
	I'm not seeing you again.
	What?
	Just like red flags.
	What the fuck?
	Yeah.
	He smelled them.
	Like, he wafted them.
	He just got rolled.
	Yeah.
	So red flags.
	Red flags on a first date.
	That's the first one.
	How did the second date go?
	There was no second date.
	That was just a first date.
	I think the topic of red flags is a good one.
	Red flags, yeah.
	What are some red flags?
	Yeah, like what?
	Smelling shoes.
	Which everybody's opinion on a red flag.
	Well, we can go around the table on red flags really quick.
	So was that the end of the date right there, or did it continue for a little bit?
	No, that was the end.
	I mean, we went and got some food afterwards.
	I mean, did he joke?
	Like, was it funny or was it like kind of weird?
	It was supposed to be funny, but it was kind of weird.
	Because I could be in fact.
	It's still kind of weird, but I could see someone like joking.
	Damn, your shoes smell like shit like roasting them, you know.
	No, he's like, they smell good.
	What the fuck?
	I can see you doing that like a couple, maybe like more dates in, but this was the very first date.
	So I just met you and you're smelling my shoes.
	So he had a foot fetish or what was the deal?
	I don't know.
	I didn't want to find out.
	The execution was bad.
	Yeah, if a guy has a foot fetish for you guys.
	It depends on how it depends.
	Yeah.
	It depends.
	It's how you approach it.
	Don't just, you know, don't just spring it on someone.
	Like, are you talking about framing a picture of my feet in your bedroom?
	Or are you talking about?
	That's cute.
	You just like you're a close-up person.
	Yeah.
	Like you like to be a foot muscle.
	There's levels.
	What level?
	There's levels.
	There's levels, yeah.
	Okay, wow, that is intense.
	Oh, red flags.
	I guess we can go around the table really quick on red flags since you brought it up.
	I guess I would say talking about your ex like on the first day.
	Oh.
	Oh my god.
	That means they're not over it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's bad luck.
	That's bad luck.
	I think it goes both ways.
	Yeah, that goes both ways.
	Yeah, like if a girl's talking about it, that's a red flag.
	If a guy's talking about it, it's a red flag.
	Yeah.
	I think just not being.
	I think a lot of the dates that I've had recently, they're just not very engaging.
	Like I feel like there's no questions.
	There's no like genuine interest or there's no like, you know, I don't know how to describe it, but it's just like, hi.
	And then that's like the whole tone of the date is just like that.
	So it's just very dry.
	I don't know.
	When there's not.
	I feel like, like, I feel like I've been pulling some of the weight.
	Like on the recent dates that I've been, I'm like, oh, so what are you into?
	What are you doing?
	And then, you know, the questions have just been like, oh, like, what's your favorite color?
	And I'm like, dude, if I have to answer that like another five times, I'm going to lose it.
	Favorite color?
	Yeah.
	That's coming up a lot.
	A lot.
	That's very low.
	It's very dry and very low effort.
	You know what I mean?
	So I'm like, I don't know.
	A personality, like you know, maybe just try a little bit, try a little bit so they're the conversationally they're lacking, definitely.
	I mean, I agree with you.
	Um, I mean, my experience on dates is, and there's definitely I've definitely had dates where the conversation flows.
	I definitely would say that typically I'm leading the conversation, driving the conversation.
	Um, I think, and we can ask Chad on this, but I think a lot of men's experience on dates is if they weren't carrying the conversation, it would be get awkward really quick.
	Yeah, I don't like that awkward tone or that connotation.
	At that point, I'd be like, you know what?
	I'm not really feeling this.
	I don't want to waste my time.
	I don't want to waste your time.
	But I'm very direct, and I understand a lot.
	A lot of people are like that.
	A lot of people wait that out.
	Not me.
	So I don't know.
	I just, you know, maybe just have some follow-up questions prepared.
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Normally, my experience with first dates is I pretty much have to carry the conversation.
	There's definitely some women where it's like a bit more equal as far as the conversational burden.
	But there's some where I'm like, I'm really carrying the fucking conversation.
	And one time I went on a date, and as an experiment, what I did was I basically did what a lot of women that I've been on dates with do and say nothing.
	Like at the beginning.
	Because like, I don't know, maybe I'm just have unluckily encountered women that just don't engage in the conversation.
	But like, if I ask a question, like, you should kind of put some effort into answering the question.
	Yeah.
	Answer the question and then ask me something or riff, however, maybe.
	But I've definitely encountered a lot where it's just like, okay, I've asked you these questions.
	I've shown an interest in your life.
	I'm curious about you.
	You don't want to.
	Yeah, like I'm here to get to know you, even if it's just on like a, I don't know, a very, yeah, you know what I mean.
	Yeah, it should be a game of tennis, not just you serving the ball.
	Exactly.
	Serve them back.
	Yeah.
	I don't know why this made me think of like awkwardly.
	How many of you like get hugged on your first date or you get a handshake?
	I don't know why, but if a man has a weak handshake, I'm like, right fine.
	I so agree.
	I'm like, give me a firm hand.
	Was our handshake okay?
	It was great.
	I really appreciate it.
	Was a bit weak?
	No, no.
	It was a good handshake.
	It was a good handshake.
	You can be honest.
	I respect you for the handshake.
	Okay.
	Truly.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Because sometimes people jip you.
	Jip you.
	They fuck you on the handshake.
	I just don't like it.
	If they squeeze, sometimes people will do, they'll squeeze too soon before they allow.
	All right, guys, here's how you fucking properly shake hands.
	The fleshy part between the thumb and here needs to meet before you squeeze.
	Otherwise, you're squeezing.
	Yes.
	You're squeezing the fingers.
	You should have like a firm, you know, you're strong, you're a confident individual.
	That shows in your handshake.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	Submit that deal.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	Or you do it really slow.
	But I don't like the men who are like, hi, I'm like, oh, God.
	Okay, weak handshake.
	What about you?
	Any red flags?
	I think, yeah, I could agree with talking about your ex like way too soon.
	Like, we'll have that conversation later if you're still bringing up a past significant other.
	Like, why are you even on a date with me?
	Or being, oh, sorry.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, I was just going to be like, because I've been on dates.
	I've been on dates.
	I've been on dates where like the guy will say, oh my god, my ex looks just like you.
	Oh yeah, and comparing it, comparing words, like, oh, my ex loved that food.
	Wow, yeah.
	Like, why are you comparing me to your ex-girlfriend?
	Do not do that.
	Leave.
	Do not compare me to your ex-girlfriend.
	Do not like tell me that she loved this food and that's why you took me here.
	Like that's no.
	No.
	No.
	Word.
	Okay, go ahead.
	If they want to sleep with you on the first date.
	Red flag if they want to sleep with you on the first date.
	Okay, that's an interesting point.
	By the way, just really quick, I'm going to get back to that.
	Michael Trilstein, I don't know if you're still in chat.
	I don't know if I fully thanked you because there were a whole bunch of these super chats and memberships coming in.
	Thank you for, I think you gifted a toll of 150 gifted memberships tonight.
	Really appreciate it, man.
	You're a legend.
	Thank you so much.
	So if they want to sleep with you on the first night, red flag.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So I want to go into that.
	How soon do you think you should sleep with someone?
	After how many dates?
	And we'll start with you and then we'll get the rest of the panel.
	Probably like four or five.
	Four or five?
	You've never heard a three-date rule?
	Don't change your answer because of me.
	But no, it depends on the guy, I think.
	What do you mean it depends on the guy?
	If I want to sleep with him.
	So if he's a Chad, like if he's really attractive, you'll sleep with him sooner.
	I don't like the description of a Chad.
	You don't like Chad?
	No.
	Chad?
	Like a stereotypical Chad?
	What do you think of?
	Like just a really hot dude, like a really attractive man.
	No, that's not what.
	Yeah.
	I think of like the crap boy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I think it's like your typical annoying ass friend.
	Whatever, whatever.
	Sorry.
	I'll repeat all the chads.
	Yeah, sorry.
	Well, it's okay.
	You think four to five?
	yeah if they're really let me ask If they're really attractive, do you sleep with them sooner?
	It's like, what if I might want to take it slow with them, if I want it to be like a serious thing, then I might wait.
	Yeah?
	I think it just depends.
	It depends.
	Yeah, I just know him to hire that later.
	I'm not sure if you're a friend.
	Yeah, no, it depends on the guy.
	But have you ever had a one-night stand?
	Or slept with a guy the same night you met him?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Isn't that a bit contradictory to what you just said, though?
	No, no, but no, because you were talking about dates.
	Like if a guy's taking her on a date, like if I sleep with him on the first guy, I probably don't actually like him.
	Does this make sense?
	Yeah.
	Does this make sense?
	Yeah, it makes sense.
	I feel like it's just so overcomplicated nowadays.
	Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Can you just repeat that?
	If you really like him, you want to wait?
	Like, if I want to.
	Repeat what you just said.
	I don't know what I just said.
	If I want to, like, actually, like, date him, then I would want to wait, I think.
	Versus maybe it's just like a fuck buddy and I just want to like.
	Yeah, there's that with him.
	Okay.
	Also, like a first date.
	Fat boys.
	Also, like a first date, you're just figuring out whether.
	Put your microphone down towards you.
	Also, like, on a first date, you're just like...
	Tilt it, tilt it.
	More and more and more.
	There you go, go ahead.
	On a first date, you're kind of like figuring out whether it's going to be something serious or like if it's not, and you're just going to fuck him and then either not talk to him again or just have a fuck buddy or continue a serious relationship.
	It really depends.
	Okay.
	I think it's so overcomplicated nowadays.
	I feel like you should just be honest and put out the energy that you want.
	Know, I feel like you should just tell people, like, look, this is all I'm looking for.
	This is this, this is that, and just be real about that execution.
	But I feel like at the same time, like, you know, if we're talking about dates, like, how well is that sexual chemistry?
	You know, like, how well is this date going?
	Because I mean, that might encourage me to want to sleep with somebody sooner.
	And I feel like, you know, I feel like as women, too, we kind of get judged a little bit.
	It's a little bit of a harsh scenario.
	Like, oh, if we sleep with them right away, then there's no mystery.
	There's no whatever.
	There's no alluring sensation.
	He already got what he wanted.
	So he's going to move on.
	You know, and I feel like, I don't know.
	I don't feel like that's always fair necessarily because I feel like men can have that experience and not, you know, have that same backlash.
	And I don't know.
	I feel like if you're really feeling it, whatever.
	I mean, you know, why not?
	Why not continue it?
	Why not see where that goes?
	If it doesn't happen, if it doesn't happen.
	But I feel like.
	Wait, clarify.
	What did you mean by the backlash?
	I feel like there's like you kind of mentioned like this three-date rule.
	And I feel like a lot of women kind of, when they want to pursue something like a relationship or they want to pursue like a certain individual, you know, they are kind of abiding by this, you know, this rule of like, okay, I can't sleep with him right away because if I do, then he won't be interested or, you know, he won't, you know, find me exquisite in this way.
	And I just, I don't think I drive with that energy or that, you know, narrative anymore because it's just not reality a lot of the times, you know.
	Yeah, I mean, well, I think the three-date rule is more so if it's more than three dates for most men, you might want to move on.
	At least it depends on the girl.
	Some girls, it depends.
	But if a girl's already slept with 50 dudes, you want to make me wait 10 dates?
	Okay.
	Like, to me, that's a weird, that's a bad look.
	So.
	Can you go into that more?
	Like, it's the same.
	Okay, here's the example.
	So all of a sudden, I've come along.
	I'm the guy that you want to have a relationship with.
	You want to make me wait.
	And that's fine.
	That's totally your prerogative.
	It's not like a pressure thing or anything.
	But I'm going to feel a certain type of way about that if your body count is really high.
	Like if you've slept with 40 dudes and you gave it up on the first date, but now I have to be traditional with you.
	I'm going to look at that and be like, in the same way that I guess the flip side of that would be, imagine a boyfriend of yours, you guys don't really do anything.
	You guys just, you know, you like each other, but you just, he says, hey, let's hang out at my place.
	Let's stay in, eat some food, whatever.
	And then you find out that he was taking her on these extravagant, extravagant, geez, tongue-tied here.
	Extravagant dates, paying for her to go on trips with you, buying her gifts.
	That sounds more serious.
	That sounds definitely more like a relationship.
	And I feel like it's not that you're willing to settle for less, but that might just be what you prefer.
	That might just be what's working for you.
	But I mean, I don't know.
	Like, how would you approach it if a woman was like, I'd like to sleep with you now, but I'd also like to continue seeing you?
	Like, how would you respond?
	Yeah, yeah.
	So for me personally, I definitely know that some guys have this thought, oh, if she sleeps with me too soon, then she's not worthy of a relationship.
	I don't feel that way.
	If the girl, if the girl is down for the first time, we're hanging out, I'm not going to, that's not going to.
	Just write her off.
	That's not, yeah, that's not going to preclude me from wanting to continue seeing her because I think there's actually much better indicators of someone not being worthy of a relationship than the speed in which they're down to sleep with you.
	But for some men, definitely, like, if you sleep with them too soon, they're probably going to put you in the hookup only category.
	Yeah.
	Well, I feel like what you're doing.
	But for me personally, first night, second night, I think.
	I think that's fair.
	It's refreshing to hear because I don't think I hear that enough.
	And I think it kind of goes both ways.
	You kind of mentioned that, you know, women with higher body count.
	I feel like women take that in consideration too.
	You know, like on a first day, it'd be like, if that is a topic that comes up and you're like, oh, I get around.
	My first initial thought is like, I don't take you seriously then, you know?
	And I feel like men probably, you know, it's vice versa.
	Yeah, I mean, well, definitely body count is important.
	I care about body count.
	Why do you care about body count?
	Why do I care about body count?
	Well, I mean, I'm just trying to remember all the other topics we had to talk about.
	Before I get into body count, let me read some soup chats and we'll get into body count.
	So we have Mike Davis with the $10 Soup Chat.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate the support.
	These females over 30 be using them dates as therapy sessions and the therapists pays.
	The therapist pays.
	I'm going to hit them with an invoice in the AM.
	No.
	No refunds.
	By the way, Mike Davis, I have the BBC here for you.
	It's at the table whenever you're ready to be on the show.
	Like I said, we have the Guy Fox mask for you to wear to hide your identity.
	Anyways, hold on.
	But hey.
	Yeah, that's always weird when you're on a date and it's like a therapy session and shit.
	That's crazy.
	Okay.
	Thank you, man.
	Let's see.
	We have Dave On Jackson with the $10 Soup Chat.
	Also, Dave On challenging Mike Davis for the BBC.
	I'll never understand why women will sleep with a guy they know is bad and they don't want to be with long term, but make the guy they actually see a future with wait and pay for dates.
	Logic fail.
	Yeah, that's kind of what I was alluding to before is you give it up to the guy who is not deserving of it, and then the guy who's worthy of a long-term relationship, you're going to make him wait.
	I think it's because we assume that if we do give it up too soon, they'll move on because they'll perceive us as being easy or, you know, there's no alluring value to that.
	And, you know, that's just my perception.
	That's my experience.
	I think a lot of people could probably agree to that.
	No, so yes, definitely.
	There are men that will judge you if you sleep with them or other men too soon, I guess.
	But I think the issue is, is when there's not a consistency, if every guy you've been with, the rule is, I want to wait a couple dates.
	Maybe I wasn't ready to be serious at that time.
	Yeah.
	Maybe I just wanted something high and dry.
	Maybe I wanted something that was just, you know, I have physical needs.
	That person has physical needs.
	That was working.
	I wasn't interested in a relationship.
	You know, I'm not, you know, I can't speak for every woman, but I mean, if I'm in that mentality, I'm not thinking, you know, like, I'm not trying to waste this man's time.
	I'm going to be very honest about it.
	Sure.
	I mean, this is my personal philosophy.
	I know not everyone's going to subscribe to this, even men.
	But I don't think that you should sleep with someone unless you want to pursue something long-term with them.
	That's my take.
	I think that's very refreshing.
	I think it's very nice, honestly.
	It's not a very common culture, you know, nowadays like that.
	Because for me, for example, if I sleep with a girl, I want to pursue it.
	Maybe it doesn't turn into anything, but if I sleep with her, I'm going to pursue it.
	Have you ever had one-night stands?
	Have I ever had a one-night stand?
	I was in Amsterdam.
	I have, but like.
	So, yes, to answer your question, yes.
	Of the women I have slept with, Very low percentage of the women I've had sex with were like one, one, and done.
	So, if I sleep with a girl, I want to pursue it for, and there's a few reasons there.
	But has that always been like your objective?
	You know what I mean?
	Like, yes, okay.
	So, you've always, every woman that you've met, you know, you've always, I want to get to know her and date you.
	So, when you had the one.
	I'll give you an example.
	Let's say there's a girl who's a tourist, not a tourist, like in the area.
	She's visiting, she's vacationing in Santa Barbara.
	Let's say she's down to fuck.
	I'm not interested.
	Like, it just, it's not worth my time because I'm a pretty busy individual.
	So, it's not worth my time to like go on a date and like meet up with her to hook up just once.
	It's interesting because you're such a busy individual.
	I feel like you wouldn't have time for a relationship, you know, if anything would.
	Well, I want the consistency.
	Okay.
	So, and also, even if let's, this is what always boggles my mind.
	Let's say sex is your pure motivation.
	The sex that you're going to have in a relationship or with one partner from a purely physical standpoint, the sex is going to be way better with someone that you have an emotional connection with, that you maybe love.
	That also just, again, purely physically, you know exactly what they like, they know exactly what you like.
	You have that built comfort.
	Yeah.
	And so, and then also you can't get to you can't really like go deep into certain like kinks with like a one-night stand.
	You're not going to like go crazy.
	I mean, I guess you could.
	I mean, there are websites for that.
	Yeah, you could.
	You could, but you can't really, like, listen, I want to wear my World War I uniform.
	That's just going to be weird on a one-night stand.
	I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	But, um, yeah, so I mean, I've always been interested in, you know, I don't know, just sleeping with a bunch of different women one time never appealed to me.
	I've always been interested in pursuing it.
	Sometimes it doesn't proceed.
	Good on you, honestly.
	Genuinely.
	Is that always like an emotional relationship for you?
	Or are you talking like it could just be like fuck buddies, but like, you guys are exclusive?
	You know what I do?
	Yeah, I think I know what you mean.
	Just a sexual relationship.
	Obviously, you can still care about the person, but you just have no romantic attachment to them.
	Like, it doesn't have to be a full emotionally committed relationship.
	Ooh, that makes me think of a question for the girls.
	Yeah, I think that that's a possibility too, where I don't know.
	Yeah, I guess so.
	Okay.
	I guess that's an option.
	But it's never like for me, anyways, to sleep with a woman just one time.
	If I sleep with a girl, I want to sleep with her, continue sleeping with her.
	But what if the sex is bad?
	It's very hard for a woman to be bad in bed.
	Like, you have to.
	You have to really, as a woman, to be bad in bed, you have to really fuck up.
	In my view.
	Okay, what is fucking sexy?
	Yeah, what?
	Because I know that girls can be like, oh, if a guy doesn't do this, right, it's bad sex.
	But for a guy, what is bad sex from a girl?
	That makes sense.
	What would make you not want to have sex with them again?
	Like, if she just laid there and was like, have me.
	Is that like a thing for you or not?
	Does that turn off, turn on?
	If she did what?
	If she just laid there, you know?
	Like, she's not putting any effort into it.
	She's just like, okay, have me.
	Have me.
	That'd be kind of hot.
	I mean, here's the thing.
	Like, if you know what you're doing in bed as a guy, you can have good sex.
	I think that's real.
	Like, if you know what you're doing, that's really true.
	Yeah.
	Like, I can have good sex with a girl who's a virgin.
	Most women are going to look at a guy who's a virgin if they've had sexual experience and probably be like, Like they're, they're gonna pause on that one.
	Yeah, you know well, that's a slippery slope, I think in itself, but but I mean sorry, what was the initial question?
	I got sidetracked there.
	I'm also like I'm also sidetracked, bad.
	So I think the question was, like, what would make it bad if she was, probably if she was like too dominant?
	I don't like women who are like, really dominant in the bedroom, so that would make it bad.
	But I mean, I would try to tamper that temper I don't know temper that early on.
	And I mean, if you're leading it kind of in the same way with a dance, there's typically when you're dancing, someone's leading are you alluding to?
	You just have to be in charge is.
	Is that what is this is?
	Are you talking like dumb dom, sub dynamic?
	Not even just that.
	Just like you prefer to be the one who's initiating.
	I prefer to yes, I prefer to initiate, I prefer to be in the lead.
	Okay, and yeah, go ahead.
	Say, say it, go ahead.
	I was no, I didn't have anything to say, I was just reacting to the conversation.
	But yeah, I mean bad, if she was bad in bed.
	I mean like, if she's just a really bad kisser, I mean if a girl's a bad kisser I'll, I'll tell her like hey, you would tell her right, then I would tell her then and there yeah, because then I'm just I'm gonna lose it and yeah, I mean it's better to correct, correct it.
	Then I'm, I would be diplomatic about it.
	I'd be like hey, can you try, like this.
	I wouldn't be like, I wouldn't be like the fuck, you suck at this.
	I would, I would be like why don't you do this?
	Yeah yeah yeah, you know I would be.
	You know I would be as diplomatic about it as possible.
	So yeah, but I mean I don't know where we were going with that.
	How did we get?
	How did we get?
	I don't know.
	I don't know where we're at okay so oh, I want to really touch on one thing.
	We got some super chats to get to.
	Then we got to talk about body count.
	So someone in the chat was asking, Austice, I'm fucking it up, how long should you wait before sleeping with a new partner?
	Did we go?
	I don't know if we went around the table for everyone.
	So go ahead.
	So the next partner that I personally am going to sleep with will be my husband, and you know I'm not judging other people, but that is who.
	That's how long I will wait.
	So just some clarification.
	So, but are you a virgin?
	I'm not.
	No, I have my past.
	Okay, moving forward, it'll be my husband.
	So you won't have premarital sex no, with your future husband.
	No, I once we get married.
	Well yeah, once you get married, but before marriage, no.
	Okay Chase, are you in the chat?
	I should get you linked up with Chase because he, he's popular.
	He's also waiting till marriage.
	He's also waiting till marriage, I think yeah, Chase Paisley.
	Now, the question is, Chase Paisley?
	Whoa.
	Hazy Chase.
	Shoot your shot.
	That's a good turn.
	Chase Paisley, yeah, he's also waiting till marriage.
	But he's not a virgin.
	He said he was the one that asked the question.
	Oh, right.
	Okay.
	That makes sense.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	We'll go around the table.
	So, how long should you wait before sleeping with the guy?
	All right, I answered it.
	Three weeks.
	Oh, three weeks?
	Oh, should we go around the bag?
	No, into the mic, though.
	Straight straight.
	Did we go around that?
	I think everybody?
	We said.
	Oh, did we?
	Oh, my bad.
	I feel like you didn't answer.
	No, I thought it was for something else.
	I think that was for a relation.
	No, that was like the longest relation.
	Or no, no.
	How long it takes for someone to fall in love.
	Yeah, that was for how long to fall.
	Thank you.
	But I don't remember.
	Okay.
	Just answer it.
	Go ahead.
	How many dates?
	How long?
	The question is: how many dates should we wait until sleeping with somebody?
	How many dates should you wait before sleeping with somebody?
	Personally, we did answer that because she said four to five and you were like, had your face.
	Yeah, because we were saying it wasn't.
	But she started.
	She started.
	Okay, just go ahead.
	It depends what you're looking for.
	It depends what you're looking for.
	Like, generally, just two weeks.
	Whenever you want, whenever I want.
	Fair.
	Yeah, I just kind of have to feel it out first.
	Feel the vibe.
	Yeah.
	You already answered.
	Four to five.
	You said, right?
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, it depends.
	Not the first, like.
	Have you ever propositioned a guy by saying vou levous coucha vic moi cei?
	Not in French.
	What's that?
	Not in French, but what does that mean?
	In English?
	You never heard that song, voule vous, you know, like that's the famous thing.
	It's a famous song.
	People are telling French all the time.
	I feel like we're playing this song.
	It's like any American, whenever they find out somebody's French, like, they'll go up to them and be like, voule vous coucha vec moi.
	Oh my god, I actually.
	Hey, wait, actually, the chat's been asking, can you speak some French to the chat?
	Choose what you say wisely.
	You can speak with me.
	Do we have French speakers in the chat?
	They just speak it sexy, I think.
	Into the mic.
	Yeah, bouquet jaunde dans les commentaire qui yon boucou de opinion et que peva.
	Sounds so good.
	I could just say, about me at the same time.
	Like how long to wait for sex.
	I kind of agree with whenever I want, but in general, I have to be comfortable enough with the person.
	So however long that takes.
	Cool.
	Rock and roll.
	Rock and roll.
	All right.
	A couple super chats here, and then we're going back to I forgot what we were talking about.
	Sorry, guys.
	Body count.
	Body count.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	We got your friend here from Iceland.
	Okay, so here's where we're going to talk about body count.
	Body count does not matter at all if you are STD free and not sleeping with other people while we date.
	Body count does not matter at all for me.
	Well, thank you for the $12 super chat.
	Thank you for the support.
	Appreciate it.
	So.
	Is that really your friend?
	That's your friend?
	That's my best friend.
	Oh my God.
	She said that she is right.
	She is correct.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so she's asserting, at least to her, or maybe she thinks that this should be more broadly accepted, body count should not matter, does not matter at all.
	So should body count matter is the question.
	Then I'm going to start over on this side with you.
	Go ahead.
	Should you're asking me if body count matters?
	Should body count matter?
	Should someone's body count matter?
	I agree with what she said completely.
	And I think as long as you're getting tested and you're, I mean, communicating, like if you want to sleep with multiple people, like that's something you should share with your sexual partners.
	I think just being open and like honest is what matters.
	But I don't really think of like body count as the first thing that's like, oh my god, immediately no.
	But everyone has a past and like people have slept around and like that's just life, but it's personal preference.
	Okay, what do you think?
	Should body count matter?
	It depends with who like if it's someone you want to have a long relationship with, like, yeah.
	But if it's like one night stand, I don't care.
	I'm gonna see.
	Okay, so for a relationship, you would prefer someone with a low body count?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I don't think it should matter.
	Like, it would never be like a reason for me to not be with someone if they have a high body count.
	Okay.
	So a guy, if he had slept with 100 women before you, I'd be like, a little like not jealous.
	I'd be jealous.
	I'd be jealous.
	I'd be like, I have so many girls.
	But I wouldn't be like.
	I wouldn't not be with him if I actually liked him and he had a high body count.
	Okay.
	And then would you take issue with a man?
	Do you take issue with men having an issue with high body count?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	I feel like, I mean, if it was like 100, I would be maybe taken aback, but as long as you're healthy and taking care of yourself, that's all that matters.
	Like, if someone isn't educated and doesn't get tested, that's when I'm going to be like, no, immediately not, no matter if it's going to be a one-night stand or if it's going to be a relationship.
	Okay.
	I don't think it matters.
	You know, I think it's in the past.
	You know, I look at it like, what are you bringing to the table now?
	You know, like, are you committed to me solely?
	You know, is this a cemented deal?
	Great.
	Doesn't matter.
	You're with me.
	I can overlook that.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I don't think it matters as long as you're safe and you're healthy.
	If it was 100, I would ask them to get tested.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But yeah.
	Okay.
	I'd say yes and no.
	You know, your past, that's your past.
	We can't change that.
	So no, I'm not going to judge you on that.
	However, I am going to look at what are you doing moving forward.
	Are you going to continue the path that you were previously doing if you're not?
	Personally, I want a man of God.
	I'm a Christian.
	So I am saving myself for marriage, and therefore I expect my husband to have the same expectations.
	And if I expect that of him, I will put it also on myself.
	Okay.
	So I'll come in on this.
	So body count does matter.
	I think.
	I think a lot of men care about body count.
	We want women with a low body count.
	Generally speaking, the lower, the better.
	And there's a couple reasons for that.
	Some of you said.
	By the way, do any of you have an issue with that, that men care about body count?
	I mean, just show of hands.
	Is it an issue if a guy cares?
	Not particularly, like I don't have an issue with the statement, but I would be curious as to what like that stems from.
	Like what's your reasoning?
	Like why?
	Yeah, yeah.
	So there's a few reasons, and I'll tell you a few reasons.
	So the first off is, you guys kind of brought it up, STDs.
	So someone who's promiscuous, someone who's slept with a lot of partners, more likely to have an STD.
	And like you guys might say, okay, well, what about testing and all this stuff?
	Let's be real.
	Like let's be real, here.
	Most people are not getting tested after each in after each and every sexual encounter or after each and every sexual partner they've had.
	To be promiscuous suggests that you're sleeping or could suggest that you're sleeping with multiple people at the same time or regularly sleeping with new people.
	So STD, the STD risk is higher.
	So, and also keep in mind, there's sometimes there's certain STDs they don't test for.
	Some STDs show up later on down the road.
	So you could say get tested, but even if you do get tested, there's still an STD risk with sleeping with someone who is promiscuous.
	I mean, it's sort of obvious, but they've done studies on it.
	The more sexual partners you've had, the higher likelihood of getting or having an STD.
	So there's that.
	There's also, let's see.
	It's just, for a lot of men, it's just also simply unattractive.
	If a woman has slept with a lot of other partners.
	So just unattractive.
	I think the same could be said for women.
	And I'm sure there are a lot of men out there who catch STDs, who catch chlamydia every other weekend, and they're like, oh, got that one.
	I'll get rid of this and continue.
	It's not a life-altering decision for them.
	It's not a wake-up call for them.
	And I just, I feel like it's, I understand, I guess, the concept of where body count matters, but I just feel like it's not, I don't know, good luck, I guess, finding it because there's just not, it's not relevant in this culture anymore.
	It's kind of relevant.
	Men still care about it.
	Yeah, but I'm going to ask the man, like, how many people have you slept with?
	But it's different.
	I don't know.
	It's a double standard, but it's different.
	Okay, I'm glad you said it was a double standard.
	So, okay.
	What men and women find attractive is different.
	There's asymmetries in what men find attractive and what women find attractive.
	So just to kind of give some more reasons why body count matters, someone who is promiscuous or who has a high body count, they're less likely to be able to properly pair bond with you.
	They're less likely to be able to fall in love.
	If you've slept with 100 people, you have rewired your brain basically to be chasing after short-term, it's short-term pleasure seeking.
	Whereas commitment, long-term, monogamous relationship requires long-term planning.
	If you're rewiring your brain towards excitement and pleasure seeking in a one, two-year relationships, things slow down a little bit.
	Like, things are not quite as exciting.
	There's an excitement to being with someone new that doesn't exist when the hundredth time you've had sex with someone.
	Not to say that the sex can't be amazing and fantastic, but there's like less of a excitement factor.
	And it still lost its value.
	Yeah, so there's that.
	They've done studies on this.
	If you have a high body count or you're promiscuous, more likely there's a higher likelihood of infidelity, higher likelihood of reporting relationship or marriage dissatisfaction, higher likelihood of a breakup of a relationship, higher likelihood of divorce, and higher likelihood of infidelity.
	So there's a whole bunch of factors.
	And also, there's a, from an evolutionary psychology point of view, there's a paternity uncertainty component that exists for men that does not exist for women.
	So as women, if you get pregnant, you will know who you will know that that's your child.
	But as a man, you cannot guarantee that the girl you're seeing, if she gets pregnant, that that's your kid.
	That's the DNA tester for it.
	Well, okay, but throughout all of human history, we haven't, that's a very modern invention.
	I think it was in the 1980s.
	Right.
	And I see the comparison in which you're making, but relevant society, it's there.
	That's what it's there for.
	I get that you're trying to make that connection to the past.
	It's just not reality today.
	Well, it is reality.
	It is reality because despite advancements in science where we can do paternity tests, that doesn't undo men's hardwiring biologically and evolutionary.
	Like I said, from an evo-psych point of view, men have a vested interest in making sure that the child is their kid.
	I get that.
	Because it's a big fucking L for a dude to be raising a kid he thinks is biologically his, but isn't.
	Yeah, I would be devastated.
	Because, yeah, not only is it not your kid, it just revealed infidelity.
	So it's like a double whammy.
	And so, yes, we can do paternity tests, but it does not undo the very real evolutionary hardwiring for men to prefer women who are not promiscuous.
	Throughout all of human history, for both men and women, actually, sexual purity was something that was valued until very recently, where it's just like, okay, just fuck up as many people as you want, you know?
	hey, you should be free to do whatever you want, but it does, again, men care deeply about this.
	No, I think that's very fair.
	I don't have a rebuttal.
	I'm not a man.
	I can't contest to that.
	Here's just one more, and I'll let you come in.
	Another thing is, it's just like a reputational thing.
	Like, if we don't want to be dating a girl and like call her our girlfriend or call her our wife, and then like dudes we know slept with her.
	Like, it's weird.
	It's a bad look.
	I just.
	But that's how your double standard is.
	Because I feel like I could meet a man and, you know, and be like, oh, you know, my friend slept with him and she slept with him and whatever.
	And it's just, I don't think that that's fair in a sense.
	I don't.
	Well, life isn't fair.
	There's all kinds of things.
	But I mean, then stop bitching about it, you know, if it's not fair enough.
	So I'll say this.
	So women are free to have a preference for men who have a low body count too.
	And so are men.
	Yeah.
	So are men.
	If a woman's like, hey, I don't want to date a guy who's a player.
	I don't want to date a guy that was promiscuous either in the past or currently.
	Keep swiping through to you, fine.
	That's totally fine.
	But here's the thing.
	Generally speaking, women care far less about a man's body count than do men care about women's body counts.
	We're not worried about all these women who came before and went and, you know, whatever.
	Unless there's ties or you got some history there, you know, fine.
	You could get into the specifics and the details of that.
	But I'm looking at like, what do you bring to the table now?
	You know, like, what is the relationship that you have with me?
	What are you willing to do for me?
	You know, how are you willing to commit?
	Are you not willing to commit?
	No.
	Then I know that, you know, right there and then, this is a waste of my time or it's worth pursuing.
	Word.
	Word.
	Thank you.
	Word.
	But.
	Mike Davis.
	Okay, so as far as the double standard goes, there's another reason why that double standard, in my view, is justified.
	It's very easy for women to get laid.
	It's difficult for men to get laid.
	It's harder.
	It's much harder to do.
	I'll agree to disagree on that.
	I think it's a little harder, maybe.
	A little harder?
	Maybe.
	A little harder.
	I've seen, I just go around the table on this one, but go ahead.
	I think maybe, yeah.
	Again, like I'm not a man.
	I can't contest to how a man feels.
	But I also feel like, I mean, you're a relevantly attractive male.
	You have, you know, some qualities about you.
	It's really not that hard to find some ass.
	It's not, you know, and I don't feel like, I don't know.
	I just, I don't think it's that much different nowadays.
	It's not that much different.
	I don't.
	I don't think that's that much different.
	Okay, so you said, what did you say if you're relatively attractive?
	I feel like if you're, you're, even if you're not that attractive, but you have like qualities that, you know, enhance your person, I don't feel like, you know, it's that hard to get laid.
	I don't.
	You can find it.
	It's so easy now.
	You can go online and find it, you know, on an app.
	Okay, so relatively speaking, between men and women, it is much harder for men to get laid than it is for women, even attractive men.
	Average-looking women have an easier time getting laid than even top-tier men.
	Now, speaking about average men, average men, or even below-average men, have a very hard time, I would say a pretty hard time getting laid.
	There are more men between the age range of 18 to 30 who in the past year have reported having no sexual partners.
	Male virginity is more common than female virginity.
	So there's a whole bunch of factors that would suggest to me that, and I can speak from personal experience, it's just harder to get laid as a guy.
	I mean, I don't know the female experience, but I actually think I agree with that.
	You too.
	I actually think I very strongly agree with that.
	You very strongly agree with that.
	I think it's harder for a man to get laid because.
	Go ahead.
	I mean, it obviously depends on situations, but I think a lot of the time, especially with this day and age, a lot of men, I don't know, I don't know how I'm trying to say this, but struggle with dating and getting laid.
	Yeah, well, yeah, but I think a lot of times it's up to the woman in the men.
	It is just why maybe females get laid more easily because it's up to them.
	Yeah, so here's women control access to sex.
	Women are the gatekeepers of sex.
	Women sleep with who they want.
	Men sleep with who they can.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I think some men have morals where they can decide who they want to sleep with, not just anyone that's there.
	Like, because you said they sleep with who they can.
	Yes, men sleep with who they can, women sleep with who they want.
	But like, can is a very broad term.
	Yeah, it's a little.
	I mean, are you saying that, like, men are just dogs?
	Well, women are the gatekeepers of sex.
	So you are kind of the determining factor, the deciding factor in who you sleep with.
	It's not men who are by and large making women wait to sleep with them.
	You hear women making guys wait for sex.
	Thus, women are the gatekeepers.
	Okay, have you ever made a guy wait for sex that wanted to sleep with you, but you made him wait?
	What about you?
	Can you repeat, like, wait, but not wait?
	Eh bien, un garçon, un garçon, il veut, il veut boum boum, zoom zoom, et tu es arrêté, tu dis arrêté?
	Yeah.
	Trois.
	Trois.
	How do you say?
	Comment, enfrancais.
	Date.
	Comment.
	Merci.
	Trois rendezvous before having.
	Monsieur.
	Troi rendezvous, monsieur.
	Et bien apré troi rendezvous.
	En fai le boom boom.
	Okay.
	So what's the question in the air?
	All right.
	Have you ever made a guy wait for sex?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Chat.
	I think most of you guys are men in the chat.
	Have you ever made a girl wait for?
	Okay, one in the chat.
	One in the chat if you've never made a girl wait for sex.
	Two in the chat if you've made a girl wait for sex.
	And I can speak for me.
	I've not made a girl wait for sex.
	Go ahead.
	Then you don't have things for me.
	What's that?
	I know a lot of people waiting for sex.
	Men waiting for sex?
	I've had guys be like, I don't want to hook up with you right now.
	I want to wait and see where this goes.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	I know girls.
	That's a guy.
	Yeah.
	Making you wait.
	Okay, sure.
	There are examples of that, but overwhelmingly, women are saying, no, no, no, let's wait.
	It's usually not men who are turning women down for sex.
	Yeah.
	All right, so we got some ones, we got some twos.
	Okay, there we go.
	So some wife material.
	Word.
	You know what?
	I think we need.
	So wait, okay, we're talking about what were you talking about?
	The double standard.
	Right?
	So do you still think it's easier for men?
	Sorry, not easier for men, but you think it's easy for men.
	I don't.
	Okay, I guess I should rephrase.
	I don't think it's easier for men, but I do think it's easy for men.
	Like, it's, you know, it's out there.
	Do you think it's easy for me to get laid?
	No, I think so.
	I think.
	I don't know.
	I feel like.
	You might want to change.
	Not in that outfit, yeah.
	Definitely not in that outfit.
	Not in the outfit?
	I think you're strolling no one.
	Depending on how you're trying to attract it.
	Let me ask you guys.
	So, okay, I guess I would put it to you like this.
	Every single girl at this table, if she was so inclined, even if you don't have the dating app, you could go on Tinder tonight on a Tuesday at 9 p.m. and sleep with a guy tonight.
	Sure.
	Almost even really attractive dudes could not pull that off.
	There's no such thing as, I've said this before, there's no such thing as last-minute pussy on a Tuesday.
	So who are those girls looking up with the girls hacking up with when they're finding some people?
	Most guys will move mountains.
	If you're down, they will make it happen that night.
	But like me trying to convince a girl on the Tuesday at 9 p.m., hey, let's hook up tonight, not going to happen.
	Maybe not.
	Every single one of you here, you could go on the street.
	You could proposition a man to get laid.
	I could be your agent and secure sex on your behalf.
	The reverse.
	The reverse is not possible.
	I could get any one of you laid tonight.
	Any one of you.
	Anyways.
	Cricket.
	Well, here, we'll prove it.
	We'll prove it.
	I think we could all get it.
	Here, I'll prove it right now.
	I'll prove it right now why it's harder for men to get laid.
	Yeah.
	Madison, do you want to have sex tonight?
	With who?
	With me.
	I'm propositioning you.
	Yes.
	Actually.
	Okay, we'll talk after the show.
	Stick around.
	See, and Harry's over here saying that it's fine.
	You're over here saying that it's.
	Did you want me to say no?
	Is that what it is?
	But you're not just saying that for the show.
	See?
	She's kind of ugly.
	So I'm sorry.
	Is it Arlie that much harder?
	Are we ready to go?
	Are we going to pass it up, bro?
	I'm trying to wrap it up.
	Let's yell you with me.
	We'll have a panel.
	Hold on.
	I got you.
	We can head out.
	We'll take over.
	He's going to want to date you afterwards, though, okay?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	You guys are going to have to get married.
	How old are you?
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah.
	Wait, wait, let me let me.
	Maybe you should talk about this.
	Let me play this.
	Hold on.
	I'm 33.
	33.
	33, yeah.
	33.
	You look good for your age.
	She said you age like fine one.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	I guess I should just, I should keep rolling the dice here, Sydney.
	You down to fuck tonight.
	No, I think I'm okay.
	Okay, okay.
	Okay, fair enough.
	Fair enough.
	Kiki?
	Kiki said, yeah.
	Kiki said, yeah.
	She's been saying.
	Kiki said right now.
	She can't say.
	Can you?
	What she said, no.
	No, but seriously, does her mouth work or no?
	Jesus.
	What that mouth is?
	I think her mouth isn't open sometimes.
	I think her mouth.
	I think you have a thing for the sex dog.
	I think I just said like I can arrange for a rendezvous.
	Okay, so.
	Rendezvous.
	I don't know where we were.
	Let me do some super chats here.
	Let's see.
	So we had this one.
	M-O-M-O.
	Thank you for the $10 soup chat.
	Appreciate the support.
	If we hook up and I still want to be around you, it's real.
	Doesn't matter how fast it happens.
	The problem is most women have no capability to keep a man in a relationship.
	Ooh, uh-uh.
	Word?
	The beauty bands.
	Oh, shit, I fucked this up.
	Getting a little hot in there?
	Yeah.
	No, I need to redo the button that became undone.
	Yeah, M-O-M-O.
	Yeah, I think kind of the thinking on this is for men, like our goal is to get the girl.
	For women, your ideal goal is to retain the guy.
	So your metric of success as a woman is not, can I get laid?
	I think it's harder to keep a man than it is to keep a woman.
	Sometimes it's Kind of Kind of But your metric of success is, can I lock down the highest quality guy?
	Whereas for men, our metric of success is, can we just lose it?
	I can't agree to that personally, but I'm sure there's a scale.
	And I kind of like, that's, I sort of disagree with my own statement that I just made there.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I think as a guy, if you can lock down a really high-tier quality woman, that's obviously a big W too.
	But anyways, I don't know.
	I just, I don't know.
	I want a quality person.
	Like, I want a partner, not, you know, like, how well can I cement this deal with this man, you know?
	Because if he's, I don't know, if he's not bringing me anything to the table, he's uninteresting.
	Like, I don't want him.
	Yeah.
	I'm putting it back.
	We're going to react to a couple of videos, too, after these super chats here.
	We've got Chase Paisley with the $10 soup chat.
	Austice?
	Yeah, she did.
	I answered that already.
	Yeah, she did.
	Yeah, she did.
	Never.
	Okay, we already got that one.
	Thank you, Chase, for the $10 soup chat.
	Dave on Jackson with the $10 soup chat.
	People will go to the dead fish thing, but for me, I'm getting myself off in most cases anyway.
	If I can't finish with you, that's a you issue.
	If it's not tight or wet enough, I can't, and it's an L.
	Yeah, so I mean, I mean, if they're dead fish, that's kind of.
	Why would you be fucking dead?
	That's like that's kind of what's going on.
	Yeah, I'm with dead fish here.
	My question, though, is like, what are you doing?
	Like, just like, she's unconscious.
	That's like either fucking an inconscious, like, unconscious.
	Yeah, or like fucking someone unconscious.
	Yeah, that's like what the fuck?
	No, maybe dead fish is like just a girl.
	It's basically just a girl laying there who's like nothing.
	It's like kiki.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's kiki, but if it's a little bit of a colour.
	Isn't it called like something starfish or some shit?
	It's just starfishing.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	That comments kind of made me feel like that.
	Yeah, that's kind of, I'm not going to lie.
	No, no, no.
	He doesn't mean it like that.
	It's just like basically.
	Okay, sure.
	But I get it.
	Well, I guess like here, here's when it comes to sex, I think here's a difference between men and women.
	Like as a girl, you can do nothing and we can come.
	Whereas like if a guy is doing nothing, most women are not going to be able to do it.
	But I feel like that's just like some biology.
	Like I don't feel like that's.
	Well, yeah, there's a difference in terms of orgasm response between men and women too.
	But that's also another thing.
	It's harder to be good in bed as a guy than it is to be good in bed as a woman.
	Yeah.
	And that goes back to what I was saying.
	Like it's really like you got to be fucking up major to be bad in the bed as a chick.
	Really, like, anyways.
	Dead fish.
	Dead fish.
	There we go.
	All right, we got this.
	Just a reminder, guys, $10 and up if you want it to be read.
	All super chats, though, of any rate will be displayed in Stream Overlay.
	Dave On Jackson with the $10 Super Chat, body count absolutely matters.
	If it's high, that means you have a habit of putting yourself in positions to sleep with men.
	That's not a habit I want in my wife, nor the mother of my potential daughter.
	Yeah, also just if you're promiscuous or have a high body count, that does maybe say something that you're not particularly relationship-minded.
	And as a guy, for someone that we want in a relationship, we want someone that's relationship-minded.
	So Dave On Jackson, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
	There's a lot of women that will get offended if you ask for a DNA.
	Yeah, good point.
	If you ask for a DNA test too, it's what you don't trust me.
	Then if it is your kid, she'll hold it against you.
	Yeah, that's definitely true.
	Honestly, what I think should be done is upon birth, hospitals should do automatic paternity tests.
	That way there's just, it's not like you as the guy asking for it.
	You don't go behind her back trying to get a paternity test.
	Actually, I think in France, there's just because we have two.
	We got three French citizens here, myself included.
	In France, you need, I believe, to get the paternity test, you need, I think you need the mother's consent to get a paternity test on the kid.
	So.
	I don't have kids, so I don't know.
	Well, yeah.
	Wait, so you're saying that in France, the mother of the child has to consent to the test.
	For a paternity test, yes.
	I believe I could be wrong if anyone in the chat wants to Google that.
	But Mike Davis, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
	In quotes, man of God is a major red flag and not just in relationships.
	Ask Blondie to check the browsing history of the next self-proclaimed man of God.
	Repulsive.
	Whoa, geez, Mike Davis.
	Holy shit.
	Pretentious narcissistic.
	Are you talking about the men of God?
	Hello?
	Obviously.
	Did you want to respond to this?
	Obviously.
	You should look at him.
	Mike Davis is obviously not a Christian.
	That's okay.
	He's on his own path.
	I know what I want in my future husband, and he's going to be a man of God, born again believer.
	So that's just for me, Mike Davis.
	It's not for you.
	It's okay.
	Fair enough.
	Fair enough.
	Mike Davis with the rose.
	Mike Davis, $10 Soup Chat.
	Body count is less important to women because 9 out of 10.
	Wait, 9, wait, because 9, 10, 9 out of 10, a man with a low body count is a slow-brained buffoon in that predicament, not by choice.
	Oh, my God.
	Even land animal females can get laid easy work, get laid easy work, not comparable.
	Brian?
	What?
	So people pay money to comment these things?
	Well, Mike Davis is the resident roaster.
	Okay, okay.
	He's been roasting.
	He's been pretty consistent with the money.
	He's been spending a lot of money just to say.
	Does he get paid to do this?
	Does he get paid?
	No, he gets paid.
	He gets paid.
	Everything is.
	Yeah, but I think he pays to comment.
	Wow.
	She's a little suspicious, I think.
	At the end of the year, do you tally up how much he's paid you and be like, hey, Mike Davis, you spent $65,000.
	I would like she just dragged Mike Davis.
	Mike Davis, you got to fire back.
	Mike Davis.
	Patiently awaiting.
	We're waiting.
	Mike Davis, if you ever make it to Santa Barbara, hibachi dinner on me.
	Okay.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate the constant support show after show.
	Big fucking Michael Trilstein with the $1 soup chat.
	Thank you, man.
	Thank you for all the gifted subs earlier.
	I don't know if you were in chat when I said, hey, I might have missed some of them, but I think you said you donated $150 tonight.
	Excuse me.
	Dude, you're a fucking legend.
	I think you just big.
	Thank you, Michael.
	I think you just unlocked like at least a handful of emojis and moats for us.
	So after this show, I'll get them added.
	Thank you, man.
	We got Dave on Jackson with the $10 Soup Chat.
	Y'all's reading comprehension is ridiculously bad.
	Call it dead fish, a pillow princess, starfishing.
	It doesn't matter if you just lay there is what I was saying.
	No, I think we got that.
	We got past that.
	We got that.
	Rock and roll, rock and roll.
	Eric, can you go ahead and pull up a video we're going to react to?
	It's the, I need a video tab.
	It's at the very top, I believe.
	Oh, wait, did I not?
	Oh, it's under Tate.
	Just some quality of the family.
	All right, let's go up.
	Okay, so shit, I don't know which one I want to watch.
	Let's just do the first, and then if I'm not back from the bathroom, just play the next.
	The reason 18 and 19-year-olds are more attractive than 25-year-olds because they've done less.
	Oh, this fuck.
	I'll say this right here on the fucking internet.
	I don't give a shit.
	People will sit there and go, oh, you can't say that.
	Yes, I can.
	A 19-year-old is more attractive than a 26-year-old woman, and I'll tell you why.
	Because that 26-year-old has talked to more guys, been to the club more times, been more places, been fucked and dumped more times, more arguments, more heartbreak, more bullshit, more mess for me to clean up.
	Whereas a 19-year-old might have had one guy from high school, just broke up, she's fresh, and I can fucking put my imprint on her, make her a good person, and without her having to go through all that detriment to learn about life.
	So, what's your key age range?
	What's your preference?
	I mean, hot girls are all girls.
	Hot girls are all girls.
	But my point is that older women, the reason they're less attractive to men, even if men don't instinctually understand it, is because they've been through a whole bunch more shit and we're not interested in dealing with someone else's problems.
	If you get with a girl who's 26, 27, she's going to be sitting there going, I know men like you.
	I've seen what men like you do.
	You ain't going out.
	I don't like that.
	I ain't dealing.
	You're telling me.
	Wait, wait, you're telling me you were innocent and sweet to this dude.
	He fucked you and messed you up.
	And now I deal with the attitude problem you've developed because he got your pussy.
	I'm wanting to fuck you in the first place.
	You should have been a virgin when you met me.
	Now I'm dealing with your shit.
	Get fucked.
	Goodbye.
	Oh, my God.
	Okay, your guys' reaction.
	Can I just say, was he a woman for Halloween?
	Because he's acting like a real bitch.
	Oh, shit.
	Shots fired at Andrew Tate.
	They're getting mad at me because I said he needs a blunt.
	Thinking that I told them that he was smoking a blunt, but he was smoking a cigar.
	Yeah, wait.
	I said he just needs a blunt because he was at a very high speed.
	Yeah.
	I was like, whoa, what the fuck?
	I don't think it's going on.
	No, I don't think he did.
	I don't think he did this.
	He's like a chill pill.
	Your reaction, we'll go around the table.
	Go ahead.
	So it's just based on guys wanting to date younger girls, right?
	Closer to the mic.
	Sorry, it's sort of related to body count, but guys wanting to date younger girls because they have a lower body count.
	Yeah.
	No, no reaction.
	Just.
	Do you?
	Okay.
	Any reaction to the video?
	No, I don't have reactions for anybody.
	Would you date Andrew Tate?
	No.
	We'll go around the panel.
	Would you date Andrew Tate?
	Sydney?
	No.
	I would not date Andrew Tate.
	Very hard.
	I don't know because I didn't understand what he's saying because he's speaking too fast.
	All right, can we fair points?
	A French translator for would I date him?
	Or yeah, would you date him?
	No.
	Okay.
	And you read that?
	He said no too.
	She told me.
	Actually, no, don't tell me.
	No, don't do that to Kiki.
	Don't.
	Andrew Tate and Kiki are breaking news.
	No.
	They had carnal.
	What?
	Carnal relation.
	Is that a musician?
	By the way, guys.
	Get your super chats in.
	Just a reminder: I will read Super Chats $10 and up.
	We will display all Super Chats in Stream Overlay.
	And if you want me to put the Pickle Haba back on, I'll leave it on for 10, 15 minutes, but I got to take it off after a while because it gives me a bump and headache.
	Actually, he would with the girls with the low body count.
	$69 and I'll put it back on.
	Is it actually heavy?
	No.
	Here, Tridon, you have blonde hair.
	What?
	So what does it mean?
	What does that have to do with the helmet?
	What was the because I'm blonde?
	I'm over smart.
	No.
	Just put it on.
	Payload.
	It looks better on you, though.
	No, it looks good on you.
	Oh, look.
	Wow.
	Ooh.
	Looks good on the back of the hand.
	Wow, that's a good look.
	It's giving war.
	No.
	It's giving.
	There we go.
	She has a small head.
	Austis.
	Did I say wrong again?
	Oh, what are you doing?
	Here, do you want to wear it?
	Someone else?
	I'll put it here.
	You want to try it?
	I'll leave it here.
	I'll leave it here.
	Yeah, Alice, try the helmet.
	I'm fine.
	Alice, try the helmet.
	It's from the west.
	If I wear that, I'm just going to look like I came out of hell saying.
	Like, I try it.
	Eh, just leave it on.
	Don't worry about it.
	Don't worry.
	Hold on.
	Michael Trilsky, are you in the chat?
	Are you still in the chat, bro?
	We need to promote your show on Tuesday, right?
	Guys, Trillstein will be on the show Tuesday, so.
	If she was a starfish or not.
	Oh, right.
	Don't know what you're talking about.
	Okay, so we've hit a lot of topics.
	Oh, wait, we have a video.
	Eric, sorry, could you go back to the other vap?
	Because, yeah.
	Go to the very top.
	Very top.
	Play the pearl one.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, so I have a question for the lady.
	Let's say you meet the perfect guy.
	This guy is handsome, rich, successful.
	All the boxes that you want it to be checked, they're checked.
	Now, he pays 100% of the bills.
	So you can do what you want.
	You can work if you want to work, not work if you don't want to work, but he's paying for everything.
	You're happy.
	Like, this is the happiest you've ever been.
	But one day, you get a message from a girl.
	This girl met him randomly at a bar on one of his away trips.
	He took her home and slept with her.
	She provides evidence of everything.
	It happened, but it was just a one-time thing.
	Now, you love this guy.
	This is the happiest you've ever been.
	And when you confront him about it, he apologizes.
	He admits to it.
	He says he's very happy in the relationship.
	He loves you.
	He wants to be with you.
	It was just a one-time thing.
	Now, mind you, this guy is a one in a million.
	He can take care of you the rest of his life.
	Do you look past it and try to work through it, or do you walk away?
	Let me know in the comment.
	I'm torn.
	Your reaction, your answer.
	Damn.
	First of all, I will be making my own money.
	I have a job.
	I make good money.
	I mean, at one point, I will be a stay-at-home mom, but I can make my own money, so I'm not going to be in that position.
	And I don't tolerate cheating.
	So it would be done.
	100%.
	I agree.
	I can make my own money.
	And I do what I want.
	I do what I want.
	And she said, I do what I want.
	And yeah, once a cheater, always a cheater.
	Yeah.
	I'm a little torn, I think, on it, because it's like, I think for me personally, I couldn't look past it.
	I just, I'm a very jealous person, and I just, it's not for me.
	But I also feel like there are a lot of women out there who could, you know, just be like, well, I'm staying with him for all the things that he did right and not for the wrong, the one thing that he did wrong.
	Yeah, I mean, the video was like suggesting that I'm in love with him.
	That really doesn't matter.
	I can make my own money.
	And just because he supports me financially does not mean that I will allow him to cheat on me.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I can make my own money and positive eyes.
	Copycat.
	He should agree positively with me if he's cheating on me.
	Okay.
	Like if you cheat on someone, like the trust is gone and it's never coming back.
	So bye.
	I'm seeing a lot of comments that have to do about how like or that was really just not correct English that I just spoke.
	That have to do with that have to do with like us saying that we can't make our own money.
	And that is one thing I feel like I hold very close to my heart because I was raised by a single mother that did a lot of shit, like busted her ass to keep me afloat and herself too.
	Yeah.
	I totally agree.
	When I say I can make my own money, I can make my own money.
	100%.
	I mean, I grew up with both my parents, but there was a time where my mom was making way more than my dad, and it was perfectly fine.
	And that's, yeah.
	Because it is 2022.
	Women are making their own money.
	But that's not the question here, I think.
	No, but we're addressing the comments.
	Sorry.
	The question.
	Wait.
	I'm so sorry.
	The question was, oh, about the video.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I personally wouldn't sit there and be cheated on when I could be doing other things independently.
	Word?
	How did Kiki's hair get all that?
	Yeah, no, that's probably my fault.
	It's because I put the hide on her.
	Ah, okay.
	Cool.
	Is it glued on?
	Sort of.
	What do you mean?
	All right.
	Yeah, by the way, guys, check out just Pearlie's channel.
	She's got some good stuff.
	She also does.
	And don't worry.
	Just leave it.
	It's fun.
	So I want to go back to body count.
	I forgot to ask this.
	So just show of hands.
	Should body count matter?
	So hands, yes, or hand count?
	Hand if it should.
	Raise your hand if body count should not matter.
	I was on the fence with the context.
	With the context.
	Yeah.
	Okay, let me reframe the question.
	Just raise your hand.
	Should body count not matter?
	Raise your hand if you think body count should not matter.
	Come on, you guys are Deves.
	Completely.
	Like you're saying that body count.
	It doesn't matter.
	It shouldn't matter.
	I'm raising my hand for that.
	For what?
	That body count should matter.
	You think that body count shouldn't matter?
	I don't think it should matter.
	I don't.
	As long as you're being safe.
	With the context that we should all apply.
	All at once, if we could have a hand raise, if body count shouldn't matter.
	Should not?
	Should not matter.
	Okay, so just you.
	I think it should be brought up.
	Okay.
	So I think we're all saying it with the context.
	It should matter.
	Be a conversation.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So my question is: for those of you who said body count should not matter, what's your body count?
	What's my body count?
	Yeah.
	It's four.
	Okay.
	I don't want to say.
	Okay.
	I don't want to say.
	Give us a range.
	She doesn't have to answer.
	Wait, what does money?
	What does high?
	Don't worry about that.
	It doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter.
	And you don't have to answer if you don't want to.
	High is like a million, so it is ours.
	Yeah.
	Go from there.
	I don't want to say.
	Less than 10 or more than 10.
	More than 10.
	More than 10.
	Less than 20 or more than 20.
	She don't want to say it.
	She says she didn't want to say it.
	She's not going to say it.
	No, but come on.
	No, no.
	Don't matter.
	You can move on to the next person if they want to answer.
	I thought body count doesn't matter, though.
	Wait, so you're that would be a bit different.
	It doesn't matter, but it matters if you want to say that.
	I won't jump.
	This is a trick question.
	It does matter so you talk about it.
	It doesn't matter so you talk about it.
	What do you mean?
	I'm just saying this is like a matter of fact.
	No, but if you in your own beliefs, you think body count doesn't matter, you should be willing to share that.
	So you should talk about it.
	It doesn't matter.
	You should be able to share what your body count is.
	But that's why.
	But this is a public platform.
	Yeah.
	She just might not want to.
	Yeah, be the change you want to see in the world.
	Well, no, me sharing that has nothing to do with change.
	That has nothing to do with change.
	You are changing the world.
	Thanks.
	Someone said, be a proud slut.
	You know what?
	They don't.
	Yeah.
	There you go.
	Chat.
	So.
	You're also not a slut.
	Chat, am I abusing you?
	You're happy with a certain amount of people.
	You're not.
	You're not.
	Chet?
	Am I abusing?
	Okay, but so do you want to give us a range?
	I don't think so.
	She said no, whatever.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Just let her answer for herself.
	You can answer for yourself.
	It's more than 20.
	More than 30?
	20.
	She said 20.
	A little more than 30.
	Okay.
	More than 40.
	No.
	Okay.
	And so just age again?
	19.
	19.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Two.
	What's your body count?
	Yeah.
	He's not going to answer.
	He's not going to answer.
	And change, Brian.
	He's not going to answer the thing.
	I think body count matters.
	Ergo.
	I'm not going to share my body count.
	Please, can you?
	That's your question.
	Yeah, what if you.
	Okay, what about you to talk about it?
	Yeah.
	What?
	Who to?
	Wait, so hold on.
	Yeah, this is a conversation you should have.
	Yeah, this is a conversation you guys should be having.
	You involved all of that.
	We'll talk after the show.
	We can talk after the show.
	So, your answer?
	Two.
	Two?
	Yeah.
	Definitely more than 10.
	More than 20?
	No, I don't think more than 20.
	Okay.
	I'm not going to speak about it.
	Huh?
	I'm not going to speak about it.
	Touva parle pie.
	Parvita.
	Tuva pas.
	Body count.
	Tuva pas dir sa.
	No.
	Et bien c'est remontriste.
	Bas tritis.
	Tris portois.
	Et bien dong.
	Tris portois.
	Poutin allure.
	Poutin allure.
	Et bien.
	I'm not sharing on YouTube.
	Okay, so as far as the body count goes, multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
	Okay, moving on.
	Thank you all for that.
	Thank you all for sharing that.
	All right, we've got another.
	Wait, hold on.
	What was I going to do?
	Oh, do we have super chats?
	We've got some super chat.
	Let me do these.
	Actually, not many.
	Oh, okay.
	It's all good.
	I'll pull that one up right after.
	Dave on Jackson, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
	Yes, we pay because that money goes back into improving the quality of a show that we enjoy.
	Some just have it like that.
	Dave on Jackson, believe it or not, guys, he owns a couple chains, a couple Panda Expresses in Texas.
	Yeah, Dave on Jackson, he's the owner proprietor of, I believe, seven Panda Expresses in Texas.
	I like those Pandas.
	Yeah.
	Oh, sorry, New Jersey.
	He owns the Panda Expresses in New Jersey.
	My bad.
	Okay, we got Kaiser Tate.
	Oh, Jesus.
	1917.
	Okay.
	Kaiser Tate.
	Thank you for the Canadian $10 Super Chat.
	I haven't seen body counts this high since 1917.
	I think that's a World War I reference, I gather.
	I think.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Appreciate your support, man.
	Appreciate your support.
	I like the.
	Are you wearing a pickle huba?
	Oh, he does have the picklehaba.
	Kaiser Tate, I will put the pickle hubby.
	Oh, my God.
	What?
	Are they the same hats?
	Yeah, he's wearing a pickle hobby.
	This is your merch?
	Piccolhaba.
	Is that your merch?
	I mean, no, but maybe I should start shop.whatever.com.
	I might sell these.
	I might sell these on the thing.
	But if you super chat, $69, I will put the picklehaba back on for like 10-15 minutes.
	Okay, we got Mike Davis here with the $10 Soup Chat.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	These females be dealing with low-grade sugar daddies if this entertainment money gets them talking.
	Mike, are you a high-grade sugar daddy?
	Because let us know.
	Mike Davis.
	Because let us know.
	He owns.
	No.
	What does he own?
	What does he own?
	He owns at least a dozen.
	No, Burger King.
	Mike Davis owns Burger King.
	No, I'm serious.
	I'm dead serious.
	I'm dead serious.
	You need to get somebody who owns Nobu up in here.
	Yeah, like the owner of Nobu or like some fancy restaurant.
	I'm sorry.
	Why are we talking about Pan Express and like Burger King?
	Listen, my super chatters and we're not going to shame my super chatters for being proprietors of well-respected fast food chains.
	Yeah, good for you.
	To be fair, Burger King is the quality has been kind of shit recently.
	But Mike Davis.
	I honestly cannot remember when I've had Burger King.
	I don't remember.
	No, if I had to do it.
	Look, look, here's all I'm saying.
	When's the last time you had Burger King?
	It's been a minute.
	Yeah.
	Here's what I'm saying.
	If you go to the East Coast and you go to one of his establishments, he will hook you up with a whopper.
	Does?
	He will hook you guys up.
	I don't think so after what I'm saying.
	Whopper on the house.
	he will get you hooked up with the but is that considered a hydrant Yeah, Hugger Daddy would be just a little bit more.
	But like, is he that's not working there, right?
	He owns it.
	I know.
	He's the proprietor.
	I mean, have you seen it?
	Claude the Martyr is.
	Have you seen Breaking Bad?
	You know the Wes.
	What's his name?
	What's the guy's name from Breaking Bad?
	Was it Wes?
	The guy who owned the stupid chicken there.
	What was the chicken franchise in Breaking Bad?
	Los Pollos Hermanos.
	Gus.
	Thank you, Gus.
	Yeah, he's like Gus from Breaking Bad.
	He works in the establishments.
	He has a main one he goes to.
	And he also distributes methamphetamine in the greater New Jersey tri-state area.
	Okay.
	Mike does?
	Goaded.
	Mike does.
	Sorry.
	Goaded.
	Yeah, I'm going to do that.
	Yeah, Mike Davis is a drug dealer.
	Okay, so moving on.
	Drugs.
	Wait, and then Michael Trilstein, as far as which girl is too good for Mike Davis to change, but he's probably wicked to moment.
	Mike Trilstein?
	We said good for you.
	Yeah.
	Did we not applaud?
	We applauded people having their food chains.
	You do you.
	Good job.
	Good entrepreneurship.
	I'm here to shame how you make your wealth.
	Yeah, I see that's how you make it.
	Do your thing.
	Eric, can you pull up that next video that we must react to, good sir?
	All right, we're going to do.
	Scroll down.
	Yeah, do you want to do that?
	Okay, yeah, we'll do the next Tate one.
	Go ahead.
	All the way down to Tate, please.
	Yeah, that one.
	Perfect.
	Go ahead.
	If you're looking for a one-night stand and one chick has three bodies and one chick has 50, the chick with 50 is going to give you a way freakier night than the chick with three.
	So I'd maybe go with the girl with 50.
	You're going to walk around looking for chicks thinking, I want one that smells good.
	For a one-night stand, though.
	I want one who's been plowed.
	Who's going to give you a freak here now?
	Yes, Diny.
	I don't want to want that.
	I don't think anyone's going to be able to get away.
	Two bodies, two bodies.
	Yeah, fucking you've been urgent for a long night.
	Yes, innocence that men find appealing.
	Men also understand.
	Women don't even know what men find attractive.
	What actually amazes me is that women go through the world with certain summary hollywood.
	They have no understanding of the basic level of men finding traffic women.
	And I know that for a fact because every single time I sit with a chick and talk to her, especially if it's the first time or on a date or something, she's saying all the wrong thing.
	She's saying exactly which makes me less attractive to her.
	The fact she's still hot will get her through it.
	What's the worst thing a woman can say on a first date?
	The worst thing is it's just basically things they don't think about, right?
	What's the worst thing they could say on the hollow?
	I mean, there's a bunch of dumb shit they can say, but within a realistic, within a realistic frame, women will sit there and do something they can use.
	They'll talk about when I saw this.
	My favorite places.
	When you sit with a dude on a first date and tell him how many places you've been, all he's thinking is you've been fucked.
	You've been fucked by his ass.
	Don't take that.
	Or my hotel, bitch.
	Like, it's bullshit.
	Like, shut the fuck up.
	And on top of it, innocence.
	The reason we find innocence attractive is because we want to be the female's portal to the world.
	If I meet a woman, you don't have to be a little bit more.
	The first private jet you get all will be mine.
	You've ever been to Lambo?
	No, get my one first.
	I'm going to show you brand new experiences.
	If I said there was some bitch and she's like, I've been there, I've been that.
	I went to this party.
	My friend has a jet.
	I was in this Lambo.
	Da da da da.
	And you're just like, shut the fuck up.
	There's nothing less attractive because we want to be their portal to the world.
	The reason women don't understand this is because they sometimes think, especially if they're sitting with a G, like if they're sitting with a guy like me, they feel like they have to prove themselves by pretending they've been with other ballers, right?
	They don't want to sit there with a man like me and go, oh, I've never been to a restaurant like this.
	I wish they would say that.
	That's the most fucking attractive thing they could say to me.
	But instead, they'll say, yeah, I've been here, da-da, and my friend, and I did this.
	They dropped on something.
	They dropped Dubai and then somebody.
	They start dropping about fucking other shit that they did.
	If they say goodbye, you got to get the check right away.
	Yeah, it's just like, shut up.
	Shut up.
	But they don't.
	So women don't even know what men find attractive because we're interested in innocence.
	So he's talking about body counts.
	It's not even just about the freaky da-da.
	I'm interested if I have an experience with a woman, whether it's sexual or non-sexual.
	I want to be her portal to the world.
	I want to be the person who shows her something for the first time.
	I don't want to fuck a bitch who's been fucked every way she could be fucked.
	My mom's invented something new now?
	Backflip, slips?
	Okay, your guys' reaction to the video.
	You go first.
	Why me?
	I'm going the opposite direction now.
	Go ahead.
	I don't know.
	Were you listening to the.
	I mean, I.
	Yeah, I was listening, and I started to catch my attention even more towards the end when he was.
	He was giving you some game.
	He said he didn't want to fuck girls that have been fucked before.
	He was putting you guys on some game.
	But I don't need to take game from him.
	Hold on.
	I'm adjusting the microphone for you.
	Thank you so much.
	Like you said.
	Wait, it's what?
	Okay.
	I do fit this.
	We know I fit the stereotype.
	Thank you.
	We know.
	What stereotype?
	The blonde stereotype.
	We know.
	We know.
	Are you the one that switches the camera?
	Sometimes I switch it.
	Okay, I guess two times.
	No, you want to give your reaction.
	We kind of were all just having a conversation during the video.
	I just can't take this man's life.
	You guys got to pay attention.
	I can't take him seriously.
	Yeah, no, he couldn't.
	You lose my attention once I see him.
	Like, to me, it's like, but you have to have an opening.
	No, but I think watching him, I lose it.
	She's harmed though.
	I get that a lot.
	In the video, he said that he wanted to be like the portal into the sexual world, right?
	Like, he wants to introduce the girl into that.
	So he wants her to have a low body count so he can introduce her to new sexual things.
	That's what I'm saying.
	That's one of the things he says, yes.
	That's what I gather from that video.
	And I think you can probably get that with somebody that you love.
	You're obviously going to explore that more versus just somebody you're having, you know, one night stand with.
	You're not going to go as deep.
	Like you said earlier, you're like, you don't get into all that kinky stuff with someone that you just met versus someone that you're in love with.
	Yeah, but I think what he's saying is that he wants the first time he ties up a girl, he wants that to be her first time being tied up.
	Not three dudes prior have done it, you know?
	That's what he's saying.
	Maybe he tied her up.
	That's a female.
	Maybe not come up with something new.
	Sharing the what?
	Like, what if you don't know?
	Like, I'm not gonna, no offense, but I'm not really gonna be like, hey, like, I've been tied up before.
	So please don't do that.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, some things just don't come up in conversation.
	Word?
	Like, you give it.
	Okay, we're gonna move around the table just on your reaction to the video.
	I didn't get anything.
	I just get the part.
	No, no, not anything, but just the part where he's gonna start explaining closer to the mic.
	I just get the part where he's immediately imitating the girls talking to each other.
	And I think that it was kind of true.
	It was true.
	The way he was imitating them.
	Yeah.
	Imitating them?
	Yeah.
	Nice.
	Okay, go ahead.
	I wasn't really paying attention.
	Madison.
	Only to the first part.
	Madison.
	I was there for the first part.
	But you were there for the first part?
	Yeah, I was there.
	Okay, so, well, the very first part, he says, the first part of the conversation is the guy is like, oh, well, wouldn't you want to sleep with a woman with a higher body count?
	Because she's going to give you a way freaker a night.
	And then he's like, fuck no.
	Give me a girl with a low body count.
	Give me a virgin, even for a one-night stand.
	Even for a one-night stand.
	Well, I think men seriously value purity.
	Yeah, in a weird way.
	No, it's not weird.
	No, but like some men, someone's doing that, like, it's odd how much you value purity.
	Like, with like men like him, who like probably not going to assume anything but have a higher body count.
	I think, like, generally speaking, who what demographic has the lower body count?
	Like, children.
	People that are under 18.
	Sorry, these girls over here are laughing at the chat.
	I don't know what they're saying, but yeah.
	Word?
	Go ahead.
	I just feel like I can't really appreciate what he's saying.
	And I just, you know, overall, I don't agree.
	You know, and it's just that's it's one man's prerogative versus you know, like maybe somebody who feels different.
	I just don't think that there's any less of value in the in a woman who slept with 50 guys versus if she slept with three guys.
	And if you want to have that thing where you want to be her sexual awakening in some way or, you know, another, I just, I don't know, grow up, honestly.
	I'm like, you know, you can get a Kama Sutra book and explore some shit together if you really want to be that.
	Ward.
	Okay.
	Yeah, no, I definitely agree.
	I into the mic.
	I didn't pay attention.
	These fucking mics.
	There you go.
	I didn't pay attention because to me it's a waste of my time.
	Why is it a waste of your time?
	Because I don't pay attention to uneducated men.
	You think he's uneducated.
	He's pretty well spoken.
	He can speak well, but I just think his views and his opinions are wrong.
	But everyone is entitled to their opinion.
	Okay.
	I think he's very educated.
	I just don't think I agree with his views.
	Okay.
	That's just how that's a fair.
	He's educated in his own way.
	In the way he wants to be educated.
	Okay, yeah, you can put it.
	Yeah, you can definitely put it that way.
	He's educated in his own way.
	I just, to me, it's a waste of time.
	He's a waste of time.
	If Andrew Tate wanted to be your sugar daddy, $10K a month.
	He's scared for myself.
	I don't care.
	It's not about the money.
	It really isn't about the money.
	Wasn't he accused of having debunked.
	No, he's been accused of shit.
	Nah.
	I'd still be scared for my safety.
	Even if it was an accusation.
	He's not a good person.
	All that stuff with the human trafficking, it was all debunked.
	It was not true.
	He's just that type of person who raises his voice to like raise, you know, enhance his argument.
	And I just need him to calm down a little bit.
	Yeah.
	You were probably just going to say that it was debunked, but he was also hitting a woman on physically abusive towards a woman.
	That was also debunked.
	Okay, yeah.
	It was like he was into BDSM with his girlfriend at the time.
	There was a video of him like spanking her ass or something or whipping her, and it was consensual.
	She came out and released two separate videos saying, hey, we're just into this kinky stuff.
	Like all consensual.
	I think this video is very sex-based.
	Everything's all about sex.
	Obviously, I think there's a lot more to look at in a relationship, not just how many people they've slept with.
	You can look at other areas.
	Okay, good times.
	Good times.
	All right, I'm going to do a couple super chats.
	Guys, get your super chats in.
	We're going to probably wrap up in about 20 minutes or so.
	So guys, get your last-minute.
	I kind of have a question for the girls.
	Can I ask?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	We'll go around the panel, give everyone an opportunity.
	Let me just get super chats and then we'll do that.
	So first off, we have just a reminder: get your last-minute super chats in.
	And then we have a question here from Stiffler.
	Ask the ladies to rate themselves on the scale of 1 to 10.
	Physical appearance.
	Yeah, we can do that.
	Why don't you go ahead if you want to start on this one?
	I don't know.
	Just physical appearance.
	It just said on a scale of 1 to 10.
	Yeah, rate your physical appearance on the scale of 1 to 10.
	But it doesn't appear.
	But it doesn't say physical appearance.
	Are you specifying?
	You can say that.
	I'm specifying, yes.
	Okay.
	On behalf of Steven Stiffler, the Stiffmeister.
	Don't read the chat, guys.
	Okay, go ahead.
	One to 10.
	Knee jerk.
	What's your.
	I'm beautiful.
	I'm not going to put a number on that.
	Yeah.
	Okay, but go ahead.
	I don't really care all that much.
	But if you had to go around looking at guys and being like, damn, he's a 10.
	So hold on.
	None of you have ever played the game of the time.
	He's a 10, but he wears flip-flops.
	He's a 10.
	That's different.
	Like, it's like all jokes.
	No, but it's like, it's all fun and games.
	This is fun.
	Isn't a 10, so I'm going to look at him differently.
	No.
	I mean, I think.
	But okay, he's asking you to rate yourself on a scale of 1 to 10.
	But he's not asking me to rate my attractiveness.
	That's what he means.
	That's what he means.
	Your physical appearance on the scale of 1 to 10.
	You can say that you're different.
	Here, we can come back to you if you want.
	Yeah, sure.
	Go ahead.
	7.9.
	Okay.
	A 9.
	Okay.
	I really wouldn't know how to answer it, honestly.
	I just, it's not a question I care about, to be honest with you.
	You don't want to just give the shot?
	I think I'm attractive.
	I think I'm physically attractive.
	I think I feel I look beautiful, but I don't know.
	I don't fucking know.
	So then do you subscribe to the binary view of attraction?
	Either attractive or not attractive.
	There is no differentiation between attractiveness levels.
	You're either attractive or you're not.
	No, I don't even subscribe to that idea, honestly.
	But how do I f- I don't know.
	No, never mind.
	I was gonna say, like.
	But so do you want you don't got nothing?
	I mean, ladies, do you want to rate me?
	Do you want to rate me?
	Because I'm way more open to that than having to rate myself.
	I have my own self-confidence.
	I don't even like rating.
	But I also don't like rating other people.
	Like I said, I don't go doing that when it comes to guys.
	So why would I do that to myself?
	Yeah.
	You have a really good idea.
	I mean, some people.
	Some of you might just say, hey, I'm a 10-minute.
	Like, self-confidence really differentiates for some people on different days.
	Like sometimes I feel like shit, sometimes I feel like hot shit.
	But it's okay, it's your general, it's just like your general self-assessment of your rate of your physical attractiveness as measured from one to ten.
	Do you want?
	No, you're omitting.
	Like, I'm just not in a certain amount of time.
	Okay, for example, I believe I'm like a six, six point nine on a good day.
	Okay, that's that's how I would rate myself.
	Okay, that's fine.
	You can rate yourself.
	Kiki is a 10.
	She's a 10.
	You know, tough competition.
	Okay, Madison, what about you?
	I'm like a seven.
	Seven?
	Okay.
	I'll say six and a half.
	Okay.
	And then.
	I just really don't care all that much.
	This is painful.
	This is painful.
	It's not that hard.
	I mean, well, like, look, look at what this says.
	You want to read that?
	I'm not reading.
	What, chat?
	Yeah.
	The chats are all like, oh, she's a six, she's this.
	But I feel like if you give these matter at all.
	If I say like nine, they're going to be like, nah, seven.
	Nah.
	It's like if you say you're a ten, you're older.
	But I just don't even know if you're in the middle.
	When you say you're a five, it's like, oh, are you insecure?
	Like, there's no good way to answer this.
	Yeah.
	But if you actually are a five and you say you're five, that's the one.
	Who defines beauty in the eye of the black and white on whether or not you're attractive or not?
	I could find, like, there's like that thing where it's like, oh, like ugly, hot, or like hot, ugly.
	Like the difference between those two.
	Like there's a scale of attractiveness and it's not just black and white.
	I think we should just move on.
	This is not a winning thing, I think.
	You object?
	Well, I mean, look, just to address your thing, you can, one, as an individual, you can have a reasonable self-assessment of where you think you stand in terms of your appearance.
	And then also, I mean, I think we can all agree that if we look at certain individuals, like let's say we look at certain celebrities, we can broadly agree or disagree on who is attractive, who's more attractive than someone else, who's unattractive than that.
	I just don't think that nowadays people want, like, I don't know.
	I just don't think we want to enhance that anymore.
	I don't think, I feel like we're trying to change that narrative in a way.
	Okay, so you take issue to just the rating.
	I do, because it's like I just as itself.
	You know, like, I mean, I'm not going to sit here and be a hypocrite and be like, maybe to me, this person is not as attractive as this person, but everybody's got a different answer for that.
	And I just feel like nowadays being like, oh, she's a 10 because she's this, or he's a 10 because that, I just, it doesn't help the, I don't know, it doesn't help the confidence in society.
	I don't.
	Okay.
	Well, I mean, like, people rate each other all the time, though.
	Sure.
	On various metrics.
	And I'm not everybody.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, I guess taking issue with wanting to rate the whole rating concept, it's just we all make, you know, it's a fair conclusion to make that a natural human process is to rate members of the opposite sex that you're attracted to.
	I just, I don't know.
	Like, I know.
	I don't mean to be making it so overcomplicated.
	I just don't agree.
	You don't have to rate yourself.
	I'm just having a conversation.
	No, no, no, no.
	But to me, that complicated.
	Like, you guys both have opinions that are both valid.
	No, I'm not pressed.
	But I mean, the only thing I'd point out is that we all have, we all make value judgments.
	We all make, especially when it comes to potential people that we're going to be partners with or sleep with or hook up with.
	We're always making value judgments.
	So men and women, we rate each other and judge each other on our appearance, on our personality, on a myriad of different factors.
	But if you don't want to rate yourself, that's totally fine.
	So, okay, super chat's here.
	We got, let's see.
	We got Mr. Michael Trillstein with the one big fucking $1 super chat.
	What a Chad.
	Can we get, guys, can we get some Chad emojis in the chat for our boy Trillstein?
	Chat, I want to see everyone.
	Chad emojis.
	Okay?
	You have to be a member, though, to drop the chat emojis.
	Dave Von Jackson, thank you for the $10 super chat.
	How can you possibly disagree with someone if you can't bother to listen to the opposing view?
	You understand this validates everything you feel about it.
	response to this um i think i believe this is directed towards you because you said that you weren't listening to i think a lot of us weren't really listening to that i just think we're just kind of like like lost Also, the thing with Andrew Tate, people try to make the argument of like, oh, like he said amazing things.
	And like, yeah, he might have said amazing things, but like what stands out is the horrible things.
	Like, what's happening with Kanye?
	Like, yeah, I'm not discrediting his music career or whatever, but he is being anti-Semitic.
	And he's, like, why would I give him the time of day to talk about being anti-Semitic?
	You can disagree with someone as a person, right?
	You can agree.
	You can still disagree with someone as a person, but agree with some of their values.
	Like, you can not like someone, but still be like, okay, you have a point.
	Or you can totally love someone and be like, actually, I don't think you're right in that circumstance.
	Fair.
	Fair.
	And sorry, so what were you saying about relate the point you were making about Kanye back to Andrew Trump?
	I just think, like, Kanye fans say the same thing.
	Like, Andrew Tate fans say the same thing about him, like, being, like, well-educated, and he has actually some good points sometimes.
	And, like, listen to this and listen to that.
	And, like, this was debunked and all that.
	But it's the same thing with, like, Kanye and people that, like, come out.
	Well, I'm not sure if it's a perfect comparison between Kanye and Tate because Kanye pretty clearly has some severe mental health issues going on.
	You might think Andrew Tate is a dickhead or an asshole, but he just seems to have his head on straight.
	You might disagree with what he has to say, but whereas Kanye, I mean, he's, I don't know if he has bipolar disorder or what's going on there, if he's manic at the moment.
	But anyways, moving on, Fresh's toothbrush.
	Fresh, Fresh's toothbrush?
	Feminism has got these ladies brainwashed?
	Okay, I don't know if you guys want to respond to that.
	Don't shoot the messenger, guys.
	You agree?
	I disagree.
	Oh.
	She was about to move out.
	She was about.
	She was like, hold up.
	Hold up.
	She didn't walk home, actually.
	Damn.
	Well, okay, just on this, I'll go around the table.
	Do you identify as a feminist?
	Feminism is fighting for all things.
	Feminism is fighting for those things that support feminist causes.
	So there are causes that I support, but not all of them.
	What's funny?
	You guys stop.
	You guys got to say.
	It's very distressing.
	Yeah, hey.
	I know, the chat's hilarious, but try to focus on the conversation here and all the little...
	Okay, so everyone, I guess, has a different sense of what feminism is, right?
	I mean, I guess you can just, as far as answering this question, do you identify as a feminist and whatever your sense of that word is?
	Not solely feminism.
	I think that's, I feel like, feminism lately has gotten this like, oh, men are trash type of vibes.
	And I'm not supporting that where we're going to be dissing on the opposite gender.
	But I don't want to diss on my own gender.
	I want to support things for feminism, but I'm not going to support the, you know, let's put men down.
	I'm not supporting that.
	Yeah.
	I can agree with that.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So, do you identify as a feminist?
	I mean, I'll say yes, but I don't, I'll say yes, but I don't agree with knocking down men.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Fair.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I'm going to say no because for me, feminist people are the crazy ladies that we see everywhere.
	Like when you see feminists, like I'm a feminist, like people are seeing the crazy girls.
	And I'm for the men and women equality, but I don't, I'm not going to say that I'm a feminist because I don't want to be like, like, I don't want to be in people's mind the crazy girls just shouting men down everything.
	Sure.
	I would identify as a feminist.
	Okay.
	Let me just shout out.
	Fair answer.
	Can you just scroll up, Eric, just so I can see that gifted membership?
	It's in the regular chat, I think.
	I think it was Kaiser Tate that gifted it.
	Yeah, Kaiser Tate, thank you for the one gifted membership, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Thank you for the support.
	How much do your memberships cost?
	So at the lowest tier, oh, I forgot to go over that.
	The lowest tier at tier one, it's just $5.
	So guys on the membership, Eric, actually, if you want to pull it back up really quick in the window tab.
	So yeah, if you guys want to become a member, it really helps the show and you get access to all these cool emojis next to your name.
	You get a cool loyalty badge and it upgrades the longer you're a member for.
	We've got six different tiers.
	Oh, did YouTube get rid of the promo?
	Shoot, that's unfortunate.
	So YouTube was doing a 50% off promo, so tier one was just $250.
	At tier two, just at $10, you get access to over 100 plus exclusive whatever videos back from the hidden camera days.
	So check it out, guys.
	And then if you want to be a big, a big swinging D, like Michael Trilstein, tier six, he paid $500 for tier six, so that's it.
	Oh, he gets a handwritten thank you note.
	Yes, it's very romantic.
	And he gets one of the number seven lapel pins, too.
	So anyways, yeah, Eric, you can go ahead and just bring it back.
	So yeah, if you guys want to support the show, please consider becoming a member.
	You get these super cool emojis.
	Yeah, pull that one up.
	We'll do super chats.
	Hold on, let me just do this.
	Okay, so actually, do I address the feminist thing?
	What's the critique?
	The feminist thing.
	Basically, okay, so I mean, I'll answer this question.
	I don't consider myself a feminist.
	I believe in equality between men and women.
	I'd consider myself an egalitarian.
	So my sense of feminism, like you mentioned, there's certainly a fairly strong component of feminism that is man-hating.
	And the primary, what's it called?
	The core tenet of feminism is the patriarchy theory, which basically says all men are oppressing women.
	Men as a class are oppressing women.
	So I think you're basically painting all men with this really negative brush.
	I mean, yeah, there's been inequalities in the past for both men and women, but it's a totally ludicrous rewriting of the gender dynamics between men and women throughout history and in current day to suggest that men are oppressing women is a conspiracy theory in my estimation.
	Feminism is basically QAnon for liberals.
	Okay.
	And I consider myself center, center left politically, but you need not look further than the name.
	I mean, there's this big push from feminists to, okay, we need to get rid of police man.
	It needs to be police officer.
	We need to get rid of fireman.
	It should be firefighter.
	If feminism is an equality movement, look no further than the name.
	Feminism.
	So I'm an egalitarian.
	I believe in true equality between men and women.
	Feminism, in my estimation, in the most generous sense, is a women's advocacy movement.
	It's not an equality movement.
	We already have that.
	That's egalitarianism.
	What's the exact definition of feminism?
	Well, I mean...
	Like, what is the written definition?
	It's like fighting for feminine things.
	It's not equality in feminism.
	I just want to know that.
	I mean, Google it.
	Pull it up real quick.
	Yeah, I just want to know.
	Everyone has a different definition of feminism.
	That's why it's kind of a hard question to answer.
	Like, do you consider yourself a feminist?
	Well, what is your definition?
	What is a feminist, right?
	It does depend on your definition of meaning.
	So, yeah, I mean, I believe in equality between men and women.
	But feminism throughout history and even today, I believe, is not an equality movement.
	Because where women stand to if equality comes at the, if there's a scenario where getting equality comes at the detriment of women, feminists will not fight for it.
	So it's not truly about equality if that's if said equality comes at a detriment to women.
	So, yeah.
	For example, I'll give you one example and then we'll move on because I don't want to stick on the feminism thing for too long.
	In 2022, men are the only ones that are subject to military conscription in the United States.
	So if there's a war, women are exempt from the draft.
	They're exempt from military conscription.
	There's not women out there protesting in the streets as feminists saying, equalize the draft.
	We want to be drafted when we go to war with China or Russia.
	Okay, well, you're not even fighting to get rid of the draft for men who are still subject to it.
	So you cannot be for equality.
	It's just not an equality movement.
	Otherwise, you would be fighting for men's causes.
	But women, feminists, sorry, feminists don't fight for getting men benefits or getting men equality.
	So anyways.
	You're giving me the death stare.
	What's up?
	The death stare?
	No, I'm just, I'm taking it in, you know, trying to process it, trying to think of my own, you know, examples and, you know, reflecting, really.
	I think you make great points.
	I think it's a little hard to argue with some of them.
	And, you know, that's kind of why I'm, you know, thinking here.
	But I don't agree necessarily.
	I mean, I believe in inequality as, you know, as much as the next person.
	I don't think it's, I think society's done a really good job of creating a really decent divide between men and women.
	And I think that, you know, to accuse one or the other is, it's unfortunate.
	It is very unfortunate how the narrative nowadays, you know, being a feminist is attributed to these crazy women who are, you know, who definitely hate men.
	But I don't feel necessarily, you know, like I don't feel any less overwhelmed to call myself a feminine, a feminist.
	And I think it's just, you know, I believe there are still a lot of things out there that women don't necessarily have the advantage for.
	And I will continue to support those.
	But that doesn't mean that I'm not going to support anything, you know, that was a man cause or whatever, you know, the case may be.
	But, you know, I'm not going to advocate for just anything and everything either.
	Okay.
	That makes sense.
	Fair enough.
	All right.
	So let me finish up these super chats, then we'll give the panel an opportunity to give final thoughts or final question.
	The base capitalist, thank you for the $10 super chat, man.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate the support.
	Ladies, most guys want a virgin, want a virgin woman who is between 18 to 24.
	You can disagree with reality all you want, but you'll be better off with accepting it.
	Any response, folks?
	I don't know.
	I don't.
	Ladies, panel.
	I miss the reality.
	I'm not disagreeing.
	Yep.
	Yeah, it just goes back to the purity thing.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, even to this day, like, men value sexual purity in women.
	And that could be virginity, but it could also just mean low body count.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Equality right there.
	I mean, I feel like you're saying that men are, you know, let's go back to this body count thing for a second.
	That's fine.
	This double standard.
	You know, men care more about body count, but women don't.
	You know, I feel like, that's not equality.
	You know, you're not measuring me up to your standards type of thing.
	I don't think that's fair.
	Well, it's different.
	Is it though?
	It's different.
	Well, it goes back to the discussion of it's not, it's harder for men to get laid.
	So if it's something, if it's very easy, if it's easy to achieve, it's not impressive.
	So you lost me there, to be honest.
	It's not like if a dude gets laid, like it took some degree of something, some skill, sometimes not.
	But it's okay.
	It goes back to it's harder for men to get laid.
	Thus, it's more impressive if a man is a player because that says something about it.
	I completely disagree.
	I think if a man is a player nowadays, he's looking at a lot of opposition from women.
	Opposition?
	What do you mean?
	Like, I don't think that's appealing.
	I don't think any women, you know, a lot of women are here preferring to have a player.
	Just as I'm sure as you don't prefer to have your women wearing through, you know.
	Sure, but it just goes back to the promiscuity thing in body count.
	Most women, body count matters less to women than it does to men.
	Men care more about body count.
	Does that?
	I'll agree to disagree.
	I just, we're running in a circle here.
	You know what?
	We could play the Jim Jeffries clip on this to kind of explain why.
	Maybe not yet, but, I mean, the double standard is because it's not a brag to be like, I slept with a bunch of dudes.
	That's not like...
	I don't think anybody's bragging about that.
	But, okay, it's a bit impressive.
	Now, you can view a guy who has a high body count negatively, but it's more impressive for a guy because it's harder for men to get laid.
	Does that make sense?
	I think I see where you're going with that.
	The double standard exists because it's easy to get laid, fairly easy to get laid as a woman, whereas it's much more difficult for men.
	I can understand that.
	Okay.
	Here, we'll play a little funny clip.
	Eric, can you pull up the Jim Jeffries clip?
	I cannot get coffee.
	Yeah, that's what you're saying.
	We're tired.
	Yeah, we're gonna wrap in about 10 minutes or so.
	Jim Jeffries.
	Yep.
	I've got a theory.
	Every single time a man sleeps with a lot of women, he's got a stud.
	But if a woman sleeps with a lot of men, she's got a slut.
	And people think this is unfair.
	Nah.
	It's completely fair.
	And I'll tell you why, right?
	Because it's fucking easy to be a slut.
	It's fucking hard to be a stud.
	To be a stud, you have to be witty, charming, well-dressed, have nice shoes, and a fake job.
	To be a slut, you just have to be there.
	There are fat, ugly sluts out there.
	There are no fat, ugly studs.
	I've met slutty dwarfs.
	I've never met a stud dwarf.
	Maybe in their own realm, but none that have crossed over to our world.
	So does that kind of I just, you know, I understand, I think, like the perspective in which it's coming from.
	It's just, it's very hard for me to agree.
	With what?
	I just, again, I kind of just feel like we're talking in circles here, so I'm not really like, I don't think I want to explore it anymore, to be honest with you.
	We're going to do the next super chat.
	Marvin G, thank you for the $10 super chat.
	Appreciate the support.
	Can you critique toe thing?
	What?
	Two.
	Two things.
	Two.
	I don't even understand the question.
	Even if you spell it correctly.
	I'm sorry, Marvin.
	You're going to have to resubmit your super chat.
	I'm sorry, but I just, I don't understand the tote.
	Like, are you talking about foot fetish?
	Toe things?
	Okay.
	Fresh's toothbrush.
	Hey, thank you for the $10 super chat.
	Appreciate the support, man.
	They don't like Andrew Tate because he calls them out on their bullshit.
	If the shoe fits.
	Who's on True T?
	Andrew Tate.
	Oh, yeah, the man who was.
	Andrew Tate, yeah.
	True T.
	Okay.
	Anything from the girls?
	Any response?
	Do you believe men can get pregnant, vampire lady?
	So I want to.
	Sir, I can't even get pregnant.
	Like, what the?
	Let's see.
	I want to open it up to you guys.
	Also, we didn't really get to finish the whole if you have anything dating related that you want to get off your chest.
	So I'll open it back up.
	I forgot who exactly we got to on that one.
	I think it was like red flags.
	And then.
	So is there anything dating related that you want to get off your chest?
	Let's just change it up.
	I think I have a question, but would you like to go first?
	Yeah.
	No, you can go first.
	Okay.
	Totally not anything related to what we're talking about.
	Fuck that cup.
	I think, okay, ladies, if you're pursuing a guy or you're talking to somebody and you're maybe entering this like relationship phase with him, how do you feel about him still keeping friendships with women that he has actively slept with since maybe dating you?
	Or I can rephrase that better if I'm not.
	Okay, wait.
	Let me try and send it back.
	Tell me if I'm wrong.
	So let's just say that you're dating this guy.
	Okay.
	You know, and like, whatever, everything's fine.
	Okay.
	But he still talks to women, you know, that he slept with previously.
	Like, they're good friends or whatever.
	He's not sleeping with them.
	Not currently, maybe.
	I'm just kind of like, what are your feelings about it?
	Are you in a relationship with this person?
	Are you complus?
	Sure.
	Are you exclusive?
	Sure.
	Let's say that.
	Have they been friends for quite a while?
	No.
	Or were they?
	Were they either very friends since they started fucking?
	Right.
	Okay, that's a little iffy for me.
	Yeah.
	Because their friendship wasn't built on a friendship, it was built off of sexual intimacy.
	Yeah.
	So their friendship is kind of always going to be like kind of whatever.
	And let's just say that, let's say that you break up.
	Let's say that you break up and then they resume fucking.
	How do you feel?
	Yeah.
	I would be upset.
	Well, then I feel like that just validates.
	Yeah, that just goes to show like you were still into that person and still thinking about fucking that person while you were waiting for them.
	Like plan B was there, you know?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I felt like a gross person for thinking about it.
	No, you're not a famous person.
	You're entitled to you.
	Yeah, the fuck you feel about that.
	Final thought or question, or if you want to answer the previous one, anything dating related you want to get off your chest?
	Nothing.
	Madison, come on.
	I know you got something.
	Scoot a little closer to the table.
	Yeah.
	What you got?
	I don't know if it's coming.
	Madison, I know you got something for us.
	I don't know if I do.
	What bothers you?
	What's something you wish men got?
	Like, understood?
	Yeah.
	Don't be assholes.
	You could ask a sex-related question.
	You could ask what you got.
	Okay, Brian.
	Relax.
	Relax.
	Okay, moving on.
	Go ahead.
	I don't know of anything.
	Okay.
	When you first brought up red flags, it wasn't, it's not really.
	The only thing I could think of was: if I'm on a date with a man or I'm with a man and I'm hanging out and they're disrespectful to like a service worker, so like a waiter or we're going out and they're just not nice, like that, that will make me just not want to see.
	Oh, yeah, that's that might be because I've worked in like the service industry, so I know the other hand of it, but it's like common decency.
	But believe it or not, a lot of people lack that.
	Like they just won't be nice to people that are just serving them.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, I definitely agree.
	A red flag is if they're rude to wait staff or someone working retail, that's major red flag.
	So I'm planning to do what you're doing.
	Anybody else?
	Any final final thought or question?
	Yeah, what's up?
	So, like, yeah, this is like for the girls.
	I mean, like, guys can definitely answer because I'm interested in their opinion.
	But when it comes to sex, do you guys think foreplay is important?
	100%.
	120%.
	Because there's like, I feel like there's guys who are just.
	Yeah, this should have been the topic.
	I feel like guys are like, okay, like foreplay for like two minutes and then go straight to fucking.
	And I'm like, that's enough.
	They think that's enough.
	Yeah.
	And then they're just like, oh, can you suck my dick after?
	And I'm just like, what?
	Anyways, sex is someone said that.
	Sex is like a lot of work.
	Someone said sex is a woman's duty.
	Yeah, but it's just like, I definitely think like foreplay should be at least like 20 minutes.
	I would say.
	I don't know.
	Take your time.
	Yeah, take your time.
	It's not a race, no.
	I feel like men are like, okay, like timer starts now.
	And I'm like, it's not about.
	It's like, why are we on a countdown?
	Yeah, right?
	It's not a race.
	It's not a race.
	I'll come in on this one.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Well, okay, so maybe I differ from other men, but I mean, so my philosophy on foreplay is she's coming.
	She's coming first before we even fuck.
	Okay, thank you.
	So I'm going to make her come.
	King for that.
	And that one.
	Huh?
	I said king for that one.
	That was the king quote of the night.
	The what?
	The king.
	Yeah.
	I mean, if, I mean, women's, the thing is, though, is like women's orgasm response is pretty varied.
	So some women have a lot of difficulty climaxing, but some, it's, I mean, it's a range, you know, but I mean, it's not that hard.
	I mean, I don't know.
	Wait, what if you, like, what if it you can't do it?
	If she can't come?
	Yeah.
	Like, will you leave if she can't come?
	Okay.
	Like, well, it depends.
	Like, I can't make her come or she just can't come.
	Like, either.
	Both.
	Yeah.
	Like, no one's ever made me.
	No one's ever made you come.
	No one's ever made me.
	Have you used?
	Have you tried yourself?
	Yeah.
	Can you come by yourself or you've never come?
	Yes.
	Myself.
	Yourself, you've been able to make yourself come.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But the guy's never been able to make you come.
	No, they like, they don't know.
	Yeah, no.
	Yeah, no, thank you.
	I definitely feel like that's a fuck up.
	Like, that's, and you saying that you won't leave until you've made her come, I definitely agree with.
	I feel like, guys, like, it should be a both, like, two-way thing.
	Like, you guys should both.
	Look, we all have sex because for pleasure.
	We all have sex for pleasure.
	And if you're not coming, then are you really enjoying it?
	I mean, I think you can have, enjoy sex if you don't come.
	But it's obviously better if you come.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's definitely, I think some women, even by themselves, face difficulty orgasming.
	Definitely.
	And even probably more so with a partner.
	So, but I mean, you know, you give it the good college try and get a college.
	No, but yeah, I mean.
	Oh my god.
	Yeah, my philosophy is like, I want her to come before we even fuck.
	That was a good question.
	Good question.
	Well done.
	Well done.
	Did anyone else want to come in on that or anyone else have another question?
	All right, they're just reading the chat now.
	Okay.
	No, we laughed because you made a little bit.
	Does anyone else want to come in on that one?
	No.
	It was really laughing.
	Nice.
	Okay.
	Guys, last chance, get your soup chats in.
	Otherwise, we're going to wrap up here in just a few minutes.
	So I think we got all the soup chats so far.
	Last opportunity.
	Any final thought or question for me, for the panel?
	If you want to ask for advice on a situation, last opportunity?
	I don't really have any questions, but I think just thank you for having me.
	But, you know, despite maybe not agreeing with every point you had, I definitely value your opinion.
	It definitely awakened and opened my mind up to some things that I haven't thought about before.
	And I do have to give you credit, you know, for that.
	Well, thank you very much.
	And thank you for coming.
	And it's always good to have conversations where you can disagree with someone or have a differing position without it getting all worked up.
	No hard feelings, for sure.
	Oh, definitely no hard feelings.
	None at all.
	Also, like, without this, we wouldn't have met each other.
	And that's what I feel like each other.
	I do not know what you're doing.
	Do you feel like closing away?
	Do you feel like when you do these panels, you feel like you find yourself enlightened or maybe you didn't think about things in a state of mind?
	Do you have you ever changed?
	I'm pretty well established in my beliefs.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we see that.
	But I mean, I'm not like, if someone disagrees with me, I'm not impressed.
	I'm not like, it really doesn't bother me.
	And I realize people are going to disagree with me.
	And yeah, I'm just really not, it takes a lot to phase me.
	So just someone disagreeing with my perspective.
	No, and it should like invoke a reaction, I don't think.
	And I think it's okay for people to have differing opinions, differing positions on certain things.
	And I believe what I believe.
	People believe their own thing.
	So, you know, and it's honestly good.
	It's good content.
	Like, if we have, get into a lively debate, have a lively conversation.
	If we're debating, that's entertaining for the viewers.
	So, yeah, certainly sometimes I'll play, you know, I don't like to let it on before the show, but yeah, I'm going to sometimes intentionally play devil's advocate or like really stick into a certain position just to get a conversation going.
	Because if everyone just agrees, then it can be kind of boring.
	So I'll definitely play the antagonizer a little bit.
	So yeah.
	All right.
	I think, did we get any soup chats, Eric?
	I'm really proud.
	My father's dead.
	Thank you for having us.
	Yeah, thank you guys so much for coming.
	Guys, oh, and lastly to the viewers, I don't recall if I mentioned it at the beginning of the show.
	We're here to watch Brian be a doofus.
	Okay, well there you go.
	They really should talk everyone, don't they?
	Yeah, they should talk.
	There's not one person who didn't get it, right?
	Yeah, there's not one thing we're saying that didn't get it.
	This is the roast hour.
	I got called to two.
	Jesus Christ.
	I got called to one.
	My father's dead.
	Yeah, you heard that.
	Bam!
	Because someone said their fathers must be proud, and I whispered in the mic, my father left before he could be proud.
	I mean, I guess that's what I'm saying.
	Daddy issue hassles.
	Oh, for real.
	Someone said RIP, though, respect.
	Hey.
	Yeah.
	But hey, guys, thank you so much for coming on.
	Genuine artists.
	And yes, guys.
	You're an A-naught, you're smarty.
	Sorry about the stripper panel.
	Sorry about the stripper panel yesterday.
	I guess.
	Yeah, they were expecting a lot more from you tonight.
	I probably was dead humanized of her being a 304.
	Oh, my God.
	I mean, some of their comments basically suggest that we're strippers.
	Shit.
	Yeah, I mean, okay.
	So, yeah, I just want to, we're going to wrap up.
	Thank you guys for tuning in.
	You could have been doing anything else, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	So we will be live again Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
	No homo.
	7 p.m. Pacific, Thursday.
	And then Trillstein will be on Tuesday.
	So yeah, guys.
	Oh, yeah.
	Big thank you to the panel once again.
	Thank you guys for tuning in.
	Guys, like the video and leave a comment on your way out for the algorithm.
	And yeah, thanks again to the panel.
	Thanks again for watching.
	And we will see you next time.
	Trying to wrap up here.
	Okay.
	No, it is not the stripper panel.
	All right, guys.
	Thank you for tuning in.
	Have a good night.
	Good night, guys.
	I'll give you a compliment.

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