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Feb. 4, 2023 - Whatever Podcast
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Dating Talk #33
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Welcome to the whatever dating talk podcast coming to you live from Isla Vista, Santa Barbara County, California.
Every Tuesday and Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific, I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
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She's like somewhere in the back.
You can kind of sort of, yeah, there you go.
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Anyways, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and or school major.
Hensley, as always.
I'm 22.
I'm a stripper and I'm studying psychology with a minor in philosophy and drug and alcohol counseling.
I'm Kiko.
I'm 22.
I'm a bartender and also studying at the University Sociology and Education.
I'm Breezy.
I'm 34 and I'm a freelance graphic designer and audio engineer.
I also have my own podcast.
What's it called?
Spectrum Podcast.
We shorten it.
You change the name, yeah.
What was it before?
It was on the Spectrum podcast.
Why did you shorten it?
You know, you know, it's probably, I bet your audience would call them snowflakes that responded with a little bit too much like, but what if someone gets hurt?
And I was like, but what about the funny side of it?
So I just let it go.
I'm Tatum.
I'm 29, and I work in pharmaceutical sales.
Hi, I'm Nicolette.
I'm a stripper.
I do OnlyFans.
I'm having a sale right now, actually.
Go check it out at Nicolette Nicole.
You can find my social media like Twitter, Pornhub, all that good stuff by visiting allmylinks.com slash Nicolette.
And I'm working on getting my real estate license.
Hi, I'm Austies.
I'm 27 and I'm an industrial designer.
Hi, I'm Grace.
I'm 23.
I work in marketing.
I'm Tara.
I'm 21 and I'm in my senior year of college at UCSB studying psychology and philosophy.
I'm Chase, 27, professional photographer and brand consultant, and I'm done with school.
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Okay, so going around the panel again, current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you currently on any dating apps?
And that includes seeking arrangements.
I feel like everyone knows my answers.
I'm single.
I am on Hinge.
And my longest relationship was 10 months in high school.
I'm single as well.
My longest relationship has been about three years, and I'm on Hinge.
I am married.
My longest relationship's like 13 years on and off, and five years married now.
So, yeah.
I'm currently single.
My longest relationship was about four years on and off, and I'm currently on Hinge.
I'm single.
My longest relationship was seven years, and I'm on Tinder and Hinge.
I'm single.
My longest relationship was three years.
I'm currently not on any dating apps.
I definitely did the shortest cycle of downloading the app and deleting it of two days.
I'm single.
I longest relationship was about six months.
And I'm currently on Hinge and the right stuff, which is a new dating app.
What is that?
What is the right stuff?
It's an app for conservatives.
Is anybody else on the table, at the table, on the right stuff?
I applied for it, but you have to have somebody invite you in.
Oh, haven't gotten an invite yet.
Okay, I'll send one.
Sounds what?
It sounds conservative.
Why is that?
You said you have to be invited in.
The guys, the guys.
Guys have to be invited in.
Girls don't have to.
Wait, wait, really?
Yeah.
That's smart, honestly.
Yeah.
That honestly sounds like a fucking discrimination lawsuit waiting to happen, but okay.
I'd prefer it be like that.
Because then when you get let in, you have less competition.
Well, yeah, but it's kind of like with in like with ladies' nights, it depends which state, but in California it's actually illegal to have ladies' nights because it's considered gender discrimination.
It's illegal.
It's illegal to like offer a discount to women.
Solely on their gender.
But they definitely do that.
It's illegal.
But whether they do it or not.
I'm just saying they do it.
Yeah.
But I mean, there's definitely been lawsuits where clubs will get sued if you have a ladies' night.
Where you're offering a discount to just women.
If you offer the discount to both genders, but you call it a ladies' night, that's fine.
But if you offer the discount to just one gender, then you open your, it's called like the Unru Act of fucking, I don't know, 99 or some shit.
Of 99?
Dude, how many clubs really followed that in this state?
We had to, like, I remember we had a ladies' night out with like male strippers, and we were gonna have like a discount for like women's price for their drinks, and we couldn't do it.
Yeah, they're like, we would get in trouble.
So I think, honestly, it's probably only because like Santa Barbara, you know how like BAC, it's like they're strict out here.
They're on, yeah.
They're just trying to get the clubs in trouble.
Anyways, continuing on with Tara.
I'm single and I was recently convinced by my friends to get Hinge, but it's not.
Oops.
Sorry, guys, I fucked up the.
My bad, Eric.
Go ahead.
Continue.
But yeah, I don't really like it, so I'm probably going to be deleting it.
Why didn't you like it?
Well, I just don't really like dating apps because I feel like if you meet someone on it, I just have this.
It's just like, I fear, like, I hate meeting someone and then there's no chemistry there.
So I just feel like dating apps are just pointless in that way because, like, how do you know if this is someone for you if you've like never met them in person?
Like, you'll never know if there's chemistry.
So I just feel like it's, yeah.
Yeah, it makes sense.
For that reason.
That makes sense.
Yeah, I'm single.
Longest relationship, year and a half.
Currently not on any dating apps, but homie Grace, possibly going to hook it up with the right stuff.
We'll see.
Got you.
So just really quick show of hands.
Who's currently single?
What?
So is that literally everybody at the table?
Besides her who's married.
Right.
Wow.
Yeah, I stick out.
Congratulations on your success.
Yeah, thanks, I guess.
You guess?
Well, I meant like, I don't know that I would like come running to me for marriage advice, but you know, I'm here for you guys.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, I guess you'll host the rest of the podcast.
So as the sole person who's married and in a relationship.
So, okay, so of those of you who said you were single, you might be single, but are you currently sort of seeing somebody if you catch my drift?
Hensley?
Probably a few people by your terms.
You're seeing a few people.
How many is a few?
Yeah.
A baker's dozen?
Like half.
That.
Of a baker's dozen.
Is that 13?
I think that's 13.
Six and a half dudes.
So like six normal dudes, one midget.
What the f?
I do have a crush on a midget currently.
Yeah.
Okay, so I called it male or four and a half.
We'll go four and a half.
Male or female?
Dwarf?
I think dwarf is the politically correct.
Are they a job?
I think they're like little people.
I think that's a little person.
My apologies to all the short kings out there.
Wait, is a baker's dozen 13?
I think a baker's dozen is 13.
Yes.
Wait, so, but how many people are you actually?
I'm not saying a lot.
I'm just going on dates with people.
Just going.
Going on dates.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Any go-go dancers or her?
He has not returned.
Ah, okay.
Got it.
I'm not seeing anybody currently or dating anybody at all.
No.
Okay.
Nope.
You work at a bar, though, right?
Yeah, I'm like, why are we so looking at me?
Yes.
And you're a bartender, correct?
So, I mean, don't you have a bunch of suitors hitting on you while you're working?
Yes.
But?
I mean, just because they hit on me doesn't mean I'm going to take that.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah.
But I want to be single.
You want to be single.
Why is that?
Because I was in a relationship for like three years and then I said I was going to be single and then I got into a two-year-long relationship right after.
And I have one year of college left and I want to experience my 20s single and not in a relationship the past five years basically.
Like I need to be alone for a little bit.
Okay.
Breezy, can we just actually have you pull your chair in just a little bit just so you're fading back.
I guess we skip over you because you're married.
Yeah, I kind of see this.
How long have you been married?
We got married in 2017.
2017.
Okay.
So we just hit five years this year.
How's that?
It's going well.
Yeah, it's good, you know, I feel like at five years and one child and now that you know a little bit of couples therapy sprinkled in there and like a babysitter every now and again, it's like shit's great.
It's just great.
What was the couples therapy for?
Dude, it's hard to be, I think it's more, I think that's more because we've been together for 13 years.
Like when we got together, I was like most of these beautiful ladies ages.
Like I was 21, 22, you know, and he was like five years older.
And it's like, you change a lot between then and being in your 30s.
And if you become a mom, that changes a lot too.
So.
Who initiated the request to have couples therapy, you or him?
Or was it kind of a mutual concern?
I feel like it was a mutual conclusion.
Yeah.
That's a good point, though, because I think that it could kind of feel sensitive to people to have to be the one that asks.
Sure.
Okay.
What advice would you give to yourself when you first met him?
Good question.
Dude, okay, specifically for me, like I have, I unfortunately lost my mom when I was 16.
So when I met him, I kind of had like a heap of maybe like trauma from loss that I didn't really recognize was there.
And so if I could have gone back and been like, hey, try and like find that trauma inside of you.
I'm sorry.
And, you know, deal with some of that because it'll come in eventually, you know?
So yeah, I would have loved to have dealt with that before I met someone that would become my like forever person.
And what about right when you guys got married?
What advice would you give to yourself five years ago?
Fuck, bro.
I don't know.
Just like try and keep shit lively and be real honest with each other and have fun.
Solid.
So you're single, but are you currently seeing somebody?
Seeing a few people casually.
A few people casually.
We got some players on the bench.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
You got a roster, Tatum?
We got a roster lined up a little bit.
Okay.
So when you say a few people, what?
Four, five?
How much are we talking?
Like, maybe three right now.
I would consider maybe casually, yeah.
Okay.
So not that many, right?
And when you say you said casually dating, what do you mean by that?
Like keeping it casual.
Like I see him like once or twice a week.
We go on some dates.
Nothing super serious.
We'ren't having like those serious conversations, like boyfriend, girlfriend conversations or anything like that.
Okay.
But you guys are hooking up.
You're hooking up with.
That's a yes.
Kind of sort of.
Do they know?
Do they know about each other?
Yeah, well, because we have a, I mean, we communicate in that sense, but we both know we're both seeing each other like casually and stuff like that.
So we know that it's casual for sure between the two of us.
Cool.
And is there one that stands out to you in particular that you want to potentially proceed with?
Or are you happy with your bench?
I think.
Was that the term you used?
What was it?
Bench or roster?
Yeah, roster.
Yes, but I don't know.
I'm not somebody, I don't know if I want to get married.
I don't know if that's like a priority to me quite yet.
I'm still trying to navigate through that.
So I don't know if I'm really looking for anything serious right now.
Do you want kids?
Eventually, probably.
But no marriage?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm like still trying to navigate through it and everything.
Okay.
All right.
I'm single and I'm not seeing anybody.
Okay.
And so you said you do OnlyFans.
And are you also in the porn industry?
Or just like solo OnlyFans stuff?
I do collaborations with my friends.
Okay.
Sometimes.
What does that mean?
Like girlfriends, guy friends, both?
Just girlfriends.
Just girlfriends.
Okay.
Are you, so you're bi?
I'm gay for pay.
I see.
Okay, you're gay for pay.
Okay.
And how's the, I don't know if you're comfortable sharing, but like, how's the OnlyFans going?
Really great.
I've been doing it since before COVID.
A lot of people started it during the pandemic.
I started in the adult industry when I was 18 as a cam girl.
So.
How much were you making when you were a cam girl?
I was making a pretty good amount for an 18-year-old.
Before that, I was working at McDonald's since I was 16.
So.
What's a pretty good amount?
Like, how much is that?
If you don't mind sharing.
I won't say the exact amount, but I'm doing pretty well.
And at the time, I was doing really good.
Four figures weekly, five figures weekly?
No, not that much.
Okay.
Five figures a month?
Yes.
Okay.
Rock and roll.
Okay.
Wait, have you seen any guys since you started this career?
Like, have I been with any guys?
Like, have you dated any guys?
Well, I was in a seven-year relationship that ended in March.
So I never did, like, boy-girl collaborations for OnlyFans?
That wasn't really where I was going.
I was just curious, like, if he had, like, any thoughts on it.
Like, did he like it?
Did he not mind?
Oh, that I was doing OnlyFans?
Yeah.
I think it took him a little while to get used to.
Because he knew me before it, but yeah.
So you guys were dating, was that even before you started doing cam girl stuff?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Now, did you share any of your revenue with him?
Like, was he taking photos for you?
Or how did that work?
Yeah, he would be in some of my videos and I would not give him a penny.
Wait, you would not give him a penny?
No.
Why would I?
Shafted.
Why didn't you want to pay him?
He was like doing work.
I mean, he was going to do it anyway.
And why would you not want to help your girl out?
And like, you know?
A gentleman.
What?
Go on, Chase.
I mean, I would, I personally wouldn't, like, do that in a relationship.
But if I was your boyfriend and if I didn't have the same value system that I have, like, I'd be like, yo, like, cough it up.
Come on.
Like, I'm putting in work here, you know?
I didn't force him, you know, into each their own.
So.
Sounds like you kind of worked him.
Well, it is what it is.
Okay, we'll get more into that a bit later.
Go ahead.
I got out of a serious relationship about a year ago.
And since that, since then, I've only been on two dates, and that was back in January.
I am not seeing anybody right now.
I've been very career-focused, so that's been my goal.
And so you were on the show last show on Tuesday, and you said that you were waiting for marriage to be intimate with a new partner, correct?
Correct.
Okay.
Correct.
But you had been in the past.
You said you're not a virgin, right?
Correct.
Okay.
So do you think it's going to be difficult to find a partner that's going to be willing to wait?
No, because if we are chasing the same path of, you know, we're pursuing God, which is ultimately my goal.
And if he's pursuing God, then he's going to have the same feelings towards that.
And ultimately, I want to find a man of faith who is chasing purity.
And in order to have that purity, you're chasing God.
So it goes hand in hand with two of those.
And I mean, Chase is sort of similar to you in this sense in that, I mean, Chase, if you want to share.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I've been saving myself for my future wife for the past two years.
Same thing, not going to sleep with my future partner before we get married.
Gonna try my absolute best not to, at least.
Yeah, see, there's people out there that do that.
It's rare, though, here in California.
California, yeah.
But you also, Chase, you're not a virgin.
Correct.
Yeah.
Do you regret not being a virgin?
Honestly, I don't really.
I mean, it's a sin.
And like, I'm grateful for Jesus' forgiveness of those sins.
I'll regret it if the woman that I want to marry is like, yeah, I won't marry somebody who's not a virgin.
Like, then I'll regret it.
But, I mean, I, you know, I haven't slept with a lot of women relative to guys our age.
You know, my number's under 10, but I know my way around a woman's body.
And in that sense, like, I don't regret it, you know?
Word?
Okay.
Got it.
Got it.
I guess my whole question with that is that can you really, and I guess this is a question to both of you.
Can you really, since you haven't maintained your virtue, is that?
Am I?
Is that virginity?
Yeah, your virginity.
Like, my question is, why wait now?
Since you've already crossed that threshold, does that make sense?
Like, why?
I'm not criticizing you guys, but I'm just curious.
Yeah, why wait since you've already crossed the threshold?
I'll start.
I'm sure she has a different answer, but like that's like once I got serious about my walk with God, like I realized, first off, by not continuing to fornicate, that's something that I could do to honor him.
And second, that's something that I can save for my future wife.
You know what I mean?
And I want to save that for my future wife.
Because for me, like when I have sex with a woman that I love, like I form a very deep bond to her.
And I don't want to form those bonds with women that I'm not going to make my wife.
You know what I mean?
Sure.
Like I can feel that within me still from like previous partners.
And I don't want that.
Okay.
Yeah, ultimately, the reason we're doing it is to honor God.
And sex outside of marriage, it's ultimately sin.
Sex in marriage, that is what God intended for it to be.
And to experience that type of sex with your husband, who you've committed yourself to, it is going to be such a strong bond.
Versus somebody I've just been dating for a few weeks, I don't know if I'll be with them for the rest of my life.
There's just not that intimacy that you're going to find in your marriage.
And ultimately, that's what I want in my future husband and for us when we get married.
So until then, I am focusing on my work, myself.
There's no need to partake in any sexual activity outside of the marriage.
And if I'm dating somebody, we're going to set boundaries together.
We're going to talk about it and we're going to establish what's okay, what's not okay, and how to approach it.
But ultimately, we'll go to God about it and he'll guide us through it.
So that's how I feel.
I'm used to that.
That's a good answer.
So I want to, just on this note, and then we will continue along the panel with the previous question.
You guys heard all that.
Has it made you want to wait until marriage, Hensley?
To have sex the next time.
I hope that convinced me.
You're convinced?
Oh, yeah.
Cap.
What about you?
What do you think of that?
Like, what do you think about waiting until marriage to have sex?
I mean, I think they could obviously do what they want.
It's not going to hurt nobody if that's what they want to do, so they can go ahead and do that.
I personally don't think it's an intelligent choice, and I would never do that.
But there's people out there who think that's what the Lord above wants them to do, and that's their business and not mine.
But I will not be doing that.
No.
I'm not saying that you need to sleep with somebody on the first night, but some people, sex isn't a big part of a relationship, but I personally think that's a big part of connecting with somebody, and I'm not going to marry somebody without knowing how that's going to go.
Because a marriage is serious.
That's like, that's a lot of money.
That's a lot of paperwork.
That's a lot.
And I don't know.
I get maybe waiting a year or a couple years, making sure you're very devoted to them, but I don't think it's smart to wait for something that important until marriage.
Yeah, I mean, I'm married.
I didn't wait.
But it sounds like neither of you is saying that you have waited, you know, from the side of being total virgins either.
I actually think that's pretty interesting.
I've never really thought too much about it.
How that you could maybe come to that conclusion after, but I totally hear what you're saying.
It's like a deep connection you form with people.
So, yeah, to each their own.
I mean, you know, what ifs?
No, I mean, I think we all respect your guys's views on it.
I guess, can I ask a question?
Do you guys find it hard to find a woman or a man that has the same values as you do in regards to sex before marriage?
Ultimately, I'm giving it over to God, and I'm just asking him to bless me with a man in my life.
So it's not like I'm going to go out there and just actively seek him, you know, see under the rock.
I don't know.
I think God will bring him to me.
So that's, I put my faith and trust in him.
Wait, did you say you were on dating apps?
I was, yeah.
You were.
Oh, that's right.
I downloaded it for two days and I was like, I don't like dating apps.
Delete it.
So, yeah.
Frustration right away.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's totally challenging, especially here in California.
Like very, very few girls feel similarly about all this as I do.
Wait, did you say you're on dating apps?
I'm no but he's on Christian Mingle.
Are you Are you really?
No, I'm Farmers Only.
I'm not on the Farmers Only.
I'm actually on Amish only.
Oh, okay.
And Mennonites only.
FarmersOnly.com.
Yeah.
That's a good one.
I'm not on any, but like I was telling Grace, I'm on the waiting list for the right stuff because it's for conservatives and stuff.
And I'm like, as I told Brian, a right-wing extremist.
He's kidding.
He's kidding.
But yeah, no, it's challenging.
Most girls around here don't share similar beliefs at all, you know?
Yeah.
So it's weird because it's like a deal breaker for me, you know?
Well, yeah, obviously, if it's very important to you, yeah.
Yeah.
So, Nicolette, would you wait until marriage to have with your next partner?
What do you think?
I feel like I'm about to burst into flames.
You know, surprisingly, I actually grew up in a conservative Christian family.
I don't necessarily hold myself to their beliefs exactly, but I did go to Sunday school, you know, growing up.
So I respect that decision.
Do I hold myself to that same standard or expectation?
No, but I respect people who do, and I don't judge them.
I don't think it's weird.
I don't think it's anything to make fun of.
I think it's actually really cool.
Do you feel like growing up in a conservative Christian household kind of made you want to rebel against that as you got older?
Maybe, I don't know.
It's something I notice with a lot of people who grow up in households like that.
Like if it's like really overbearing, they just hate it and they're like, fuck all of that.
Like I'm going to go in the opposite direction when I get older.
I don't know.
I just like attention.
Okay.
So moving on.
So what was the fucking question?
What do you think about our perspective on it?
I am waiting.
So I completely agree.
Virgin.
I agree.
Yes.
Okay.
And you're a Christian too, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yep.
Which, yeah, I've gotten a lot of, I mean, that's, yeah, my decision.
My parents never told me you had to do that.
It's just something I wanted to do for myself.
And it hasn't been easy to do that.
But, and I, yeah, was called a prude growing up a lot, honestly.
Like the and uh, but I grew up to just decide that's what I wanted to do, and I have no regrets about that.
And I do go on dates, and I do, I don't just like sit in my house and not, I do get asked out and things like that, but I just haven't found what I'm looking for.
So have you had guys try and pressure you out of that conviction?
Um, yes, yep.
Was it ever challenging to say no, or was it easy?
Yes.
Oh, question.
Yeah.
Let's say you're 39 and it just hasn't happened yet.
Uh-huh.
Let's say, or even 40, 40, 45.
But you want to have, oh shit.
I was going to say, you want to have kids, right?
You want to have kids?
Yeah.
Okay.
But all the guys, they just want to have sex, but they don't want to wait till marriage.
But you want to have a family and want to have kids.
Are you willing at that point to potentially bend on your values in order to secure a family and children?
Or is it just at that point it's like the nunnery for me?
Or like what happens in that situation?
And that very well likely might not happen, but just, you know, playing.
I pray to God that won't happen.
And I would say no, I wouldn't bend my values for a guy.
I actually ended the like the last relationship I was in because of that.
We disagreed on that.
And it was hard.
And I just, yeah, I wouldn't.
I actually do want to get married.
And I think that being younger, that's actually something that is important to me.
So I just, I'm, I have found some good guys that understand, but a lot of times it's, it doesn't get to that point where we have that discussion.
But theoretically, theoretically.
If I'm 39.
It could just never happen for you.
Like, let's say you're 50 and it just doesn't happen.
Are you just going to be like, all right, I guess I can't.
Yeah, I'm trusting in God's plan.
I, okay, I actually really believe that I don't know how I want to say it, but I feel like if God puts a desire in your heart to be married, I believe that you will.
I believe that the right guy's out there for me.
I just have pretty high standards and there's some things I will not bend on.
What are your high standards?
He has to be conservative.
You have to have the same values.
And I've met a lot of those in San Diego, but we actually differ on some things.
A lot of military guys, actually, that asked me out, but we differ on certain things with that I don't think I can say on this podcast, but you could probably say it.
Okay.
Okay.
It's called whatever.
It's called whatever.
I'm just pretty specific on I want a man that has not taken the jab.
And like that's really important to me.
So a lot of guys in San Diego, military guys, it's actually really sad.
I'll just say this.
I'm really attracted to men, like strongmen, policemen, like military guys, and that's not going to work for me.
And I will not budge on that.
And Jimmy.
You're shaking your head.
So what's going through your mind driving?
Can we clarify what that means?
Like a little bit at least?
Like Windows here?
Like I've noticed that whether or not they've taken the COVID juice.
The COVID immune juice.
Yeah, I am pretty particular.
Yeah, I was thinking you guys need something way worse.
Oh, okay.
I'm glad you clarified that.
Okay.
So I'll just back Grace up.
It's a non-negotiable for a lot of us.
The jab.
And which, can I ask in which sense?
Yeah.
Because I feel like that's actually, I didn't honestly think I would have to clarify that, but I think it's a good idea.
I'll keep it vague to protect his channel.
I didn't want to say you've already answered.
I'll keep it vague to protect his channel.
There's issues with early mortality, and there's also issues with fertility that are not.
That's not what I was asking, but by you saying that, you answered my question.
Okay.
Okay.
I don't know how I got there.
It's all good.
But you're high standards.
You want a strong guy.
You want someone that has not been manipulated or whatever.
Yes.
Okay.
So you said you had very high standards.
What are some of the other by the way?
We do have a girl here who is in pharmaceutical sales.
Okay.
Yes.
Totally.
I don't know why I brought you up.
I love friendly debate.
Just because I sell in pharmaceuticals doesn't mean that I know a whole lot about the jab, y'all.
I welcome friendly debate.
I love it.
Anyways, well, move on from the COVID stuff.
So, okay.
Yeah.
Conservative.
Yeah.
Didn't, you know, that.
Strong man, like physically strong.
Yeah.
His strong constitution of character.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Tall.
Yeah.
Wealthy.
No, he doesn't have to be wealthy.
He has to have a, he has to have vision.
He has to be a Christian.
I missed that one.
That's really important to me.
Not, but I will say this.
Just because he's a Christian, I've met a lot of Christian guys.
And it doesn't mean that they really follow their faith.
So that's actually really important to me because I've dated Christian guys.
And I am not just a Christian girl over here that's like, oh, yeah, okay, you're a Christian.
I'm going to date you.
No.
Like, I really want to see your faith, your character, and just how you lead your life.
And they don't have to be perfect.
He doesn't have to be a virgin, actually, to me.
I've actually met some.
It's kind of weird.
Yeah, I won't.
Well, whatever.
Okay.
Yeah.
So, high standards, but yeah.
Traditionally masculine Chad, basically.
Who follows God.
Hey, Eric, I think the things on mute, the audio, can you just hit the top mute button on the keyboard?
What's on the internet?
Or push the volume up to 80.
Oh, no, my soundboard must be to the bras in the chat.
I don't know a man.
Okay, that's weird.
Go ahead.
Which question am I answering now?
The original question or the response to.
Let's just move on.
What to the original question?
You're single, dumb.
What's going on with that?
I've been going on dates, but none of them really go past the first date because I don't plan on dating again unless he's husband material.
So you typically know really quickly whether that's the case or not.
Are you saving yourself for marriage or not?
I'm saving myself for my future husband.
I don't know if that means, though, that I'm going to be because I don't know where I feel like, well, I don't plan on having sex with anyone until I'm dating them.
And I don't plan on dating someone until I see them as husband material.
So I could end up.
So that's a no until like my wedding day.
I'm not saving myself for my wedding day, but I'm saving myself for with someone, yeah, who I plan to marry.
Gotcha.
So you said you're 21, right?
Yes.
So are you wanting to get married young, like fairly soon?
Um, I mean, I'll get married whenever it happens, right?
Like, I'm not, yeah, it's just whatever is planned for, I guess.
So I don't really, it's more like if I meet someone and it's obvious this person is I'm supposed to be with, then I'll be with them.
I'm not going to be like, I'm 21, I need to like have my young days doing something without you in it.
Because I feel like finding someone who's a good lifelong partner is super rare, and I don't plan to have it be like an easy thing to do.
So if I do find them, then I don't plan on like losing them for the sake of my youth or something.
Totally.
Okay, rock and roll.
We're going to do a couple soup chats and then I'm going to get into my next question.
So, Eric, actually, before I do super chats, can you pull up the Twitch just so I can mention that again real quick?
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Ladies, length or girf?
Gruv.
Girth.
Yeah.
Okay, we'll go around the table on that, Hensley.
Lent or girf.
Great.
Combination?
I mean, what do you mean?
Like, okay, it's.
It's either tree stump or like a long tree branch.
Oh, God.
Neither.
Like, girth matters too.
Okay, yeah, that's what I'll go with that one.
Yeah, I feel like there's a balance here.
But, but, yeah, yeah, I mean, like, probably, if it was really like long and skinny, it might be fucking weird.
So, let's go girth.
Wow.
Okay.
Go ahead.
It's a motion of the ocean, babes.
Okay, there we go.
I mean, good balance always, but both.
Yeah, good balance.
I'm not going to answer that.
Go ahead.
Yeah, I don't like talking about my sex life, but the latter, maybe.
All right.
I guess we have to frame it for us, Chase.
Innie or Audi labia?
What?
You know, there's like any's and outies.
You know?
Like the belly belly buttons.
No, like any is any like it's nice and tight and like no the labia is the lips.
Yeah, but what is how does an any work?
Okay, there's innies and then there's outies.
I mean, I guess any.
Yeah, any sounds nice.
All right, I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna go with Audi on this one.
But yeah, you like those beef curtains, bro.
How dare you, sir?
This is when you dare you say guilty as charged.
Guilty is charged.
Yeah, gotta say, I'm a fan of Audis.
DM me.
Whatever.
But, you know, what?
I don't think, I don't think either gender should be shamed for the way they're born with their genitalia.
Men shouldn't be shamed if they got a small schlong, and women shouldn't be shamed if they got Audis, large labia.
You're really an artist.
Can you just paint it for me a little bit more?
Like, if a naked woman was standing in the room right now, you want me to articulate you want me to articulate what an Audi is.
I'm a visual learner, so I'm not going to, like, I just, I don't know.
It feels like, I'm just curious to know the full picture here, Brian.
I mean, it's hard to precisely articulate it.
So you have the labia minora and the labia majora.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I'm bringing you back to health class in seventh grade here.
I still have a vagina.
I'm familiar with the text.
So basically the lips.
The lips, they're.
How do you even articulate what an Audi is?
Basically.
Nicolette, help me out here.
I know you're dying to.
Come on.
You know.
I think that both types are just beautiful.
Yeah, both are great.
Both are good.
Both are good.
But like from across the room, though, like, would it be like obvious to me which is which?
It could be.
There could be a bit of a dangle.
There we go.
That's what I was like.
A little.
There's a little dangle.
Okay.
So I don't have to necessarily get real close to know.
Okay.
But yeah, no, it is unfortunate that women get shamed for it if they have an Audi.
Women are not shamed for anys, but they're shamed for Audis.
And we need to start a movement.
That's what I'm doing with my organization to combat the shaming because like 10k.
Holy shit.
Wait, can someone catch the surfboard?
Puppy dog.
Come here.
Come here.
Tuck it.
Tuck it in like how it was before.
Jesus.
I think we should go around the table then if we're going to go and ask the girls if they have Audis.
And ask them if they have Audis.
That is a great recommendation, Nicolette.
I like where your head's at.
That's not where I'm going.
Okay, so go ahead.
And ask them, cut or uncut.
We can do that.
We can do that.
That's an interesting question.
That's a great question.
Starting with the purpose of the purpose.
Reverse the order of the music.
Starting with what you prefer.
What I prefer.
Which do you prefer in your boyfriend's right?
My gay boyfriend.
Or which are you yourself, right?
I mean, you could just go with that.
dealer's choice again what you want me to disclose my this only applies to you Wait, what is the question?
What?
Are you cut or uncut?
I mean, I'll just say this.
I want my foreskin back.
That shit was taken from me.
Okay, so I didn't have a say in it.
It's fucked up.
Yeah, I think we should do away with circumcision, to be honest.
Man, mutilating.
It is.
It is.
This is an important point, actually.
It's like so weird that it's still around because it originated as the covenant.
It started out as the covenant between Abraham and God in the Jewish religion.
And it was only meant to be between, you know, Jews and God.
And somehow it's become this society-wide thing.
What'd you say?
Maybe even more specifically, just the one guy and God.
Well, it was like with each successive generation, that was how they kept their covenant.
But it's like a society-wide thing now for no reason.
Well, yeah, I mean, I think now it's transitioned from having a religious basis to just something they do in hospitals because it's like deemed as like cleaner or like, which is bullshit, you know?
They probably charge your insurance more.
I mean, probably.
I do think that, yeah, I mean, I am circumcised, but I think as a practice, it should be done away with just because just barely born boys cannot give their informed consent to dude.
You're literally cutting off the tip of the body.
That's mutilation.
That's a lot of women's dick.
It's terrible.
Right, but then when you get older, aren't you out for a whole month?
Like, you can't have...
Are we allowed to say...
What do you...
What do you mean?
Like when you get older, if you're uncircumcised, and you decide to get circumcised, let's say you decide, let's say you're almost uncircumcised right now, right?
And then you decide to get circumcised.
Why would someone want to do that?
Good question.
Okay, just a theoretically.
Okay.
If it were to happen.
I mean, you would be out for a while.
For a month.
Yeah, it would be.
I don't know.
I suppose it would be be terribly painful worse when you're an adult, but it should probably there are some instances where there's like something wrong with the foreskin or something where it's medically indicated, but that's exceedingly rare.
Where there's like it's painful upon erection.
Really?
If you have foreskin.
Very rare, yes.
Something like the.
Look into it, but it's rip.
If the skin is giant.
Yeah, something like it's painful when they get erections.
I don't know.
But that's very rare, and it's not a reason why at child or at birth, a boy shouldn't be circumcised.
We should move on from the moment.
Yeah, let's talk about Audis and Innies for a while.
That one is for the girlies.
I would have preferred to avoid both.
Yeah, yeah.
So on this one, though, is it a rap for you?
Let's say you really like a guy, but first time you're hooking up, and he's not really particularly impressive in the bulge department.
Is it a rap?
No.
What does impressive mean?
Like, let's say it's below average in size.
If we're going at it and it's not like it's a, every two seconds I'm like, why is this thing like this?
Then no, I don't care.
But if it's like, you can't work with it either, then it's not going to work probably.
Okay.
Yeah.
I feel like that's when you're like, are you going to hit this or what?
But it's more about motion of the ocean.
Okay.
You said motion of the ocean.
Yeah, she's right.
Nicolette, what about you?
I think that if they're not impressive, that they should be really good at like foreplay.
Okay.
Austice?
I mean, I agree with the ladies.
Yep.
What?
Praise God.
Praise Jesus.
Okay.
Go ahead.
I will find out.
Okay, Tara.
Yeah, I thought.
No, you didn't.
You messed up again.
It's Tara.
It's Tara.
Tara and Austis, bro.
You know, I got a story about this.
One time, I was seeing this girl named Kara, Kara.
In any case, after we hook up, I asked her for clarification on how to pronounce her name.
You know, because I'm a gentleman.
After.
And needless to say, there was not a second date because I knew her name.
I knew it was Kara or Kara.
It's not like I was like, is it Gertrude, huh?
But I was like, what's the pronunciation?
And she's like, she was deeply offended.
You knew it by text.
So there was.
Yeah, anyways.
So sorry.
No worries.
Tara?
Wait, Tara?
Sorry, Tara.
Bro, it's hard.
We got like, okay, Tara.
Think Sarah.
Sarah, Tara.
Okay, thank you.
We need little name tags next time.
It's in the works.
Austice and Tara.
It's in the works.
Okay.
Did you go?
Yeah, I mean, like I said, by that point, I would have already decided if this is someone I'm like serious about in dating.
So, but that's why I don't want to completely wait until marriage because I think an important part of a healthy marriage is good sexual chemistry.
So I'll wait until I've decided this is one I want to take seriously and I think is like worth having a relationship with, and then I'll see you there.
And if there's no sexual chemistry, that is a deal-breaker for me.
So I probably wouldn't pursue marriage with this person unless, of course, they were just really special and amazing.
Okay, follow-up question on this.
Great guy meets all your non-sexual criteria, but he has a micro penis, Hensley.
Is it a rap?
Not if he's good in other ways.
Yes.
I said something about a strong jaw last time.
Like, does he chew a lot of gum?
I'm just going to go with that again.
Okay, moving on.
Go ahead.
Yeah, it'd probably be a rap.
Okay, Nicolette.
How small's micro, like two inches?
No, micro is like this.
Like micropeneness.
Really?
Like, oh my gosh.
I think.
I don't know what there's probably a medical change.
Is there a micro surrounding?
It's probably a rub.
Obviously, I married my husband for him, not his penis.
So I'm going to love him with whatever he has.
Okay.
That's good.
It's a wholesome answer.
All right, boys, if you have a micropene, her DMs are open.
Okay.
No, you got to be a Christian.
Nope.
Oh, and Christian.
Christian with the micropene.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Actually, yeah, it would be a rap because I want a man that's a man stuff.
Shit.
Shots fired.
I mean, I do think I can wait and still know what I want.
But you wouldn't see his until you're married, though.
You're married.
I think he'll have to be like two hours if he has a micropenis.
In the back door.
What do you do there?
No, I will say it's.
I think that, and actually, Chase, you've said something about this before where it's like you, even as a Christian, like we're not perfect.
So it is really hard.
And I haven't been perfect in terms of, like, I've never fully had sex with a guy, but I, you know, there's other things.
Have you actually had sex with a guy?
No, There's other things.
Like, you know, when you're like making out whatever, et cetera.
So, yeah, I don't know.
Annul that shit.
Annulment.
That's what I was looking for.
But wait, okay, you said you want a guy who's a man.
Yeah.
Well, can't a guy who has a micropenis be just as much of a man as I don't know.
What is it?
Well, that's what I'm getting at, but I don't know.
I really don't know.
What?
You don't know?
I mean, I feel like, well, I know it's an important thing, like in your, like, in your marriage.
To be honest, like, the kind of guy she's describing sounds like you're stereotypically high testosterone dude if he's law enforcement, military, anything like that.
The presence of the hormone testosterone in the male body causes growth of the penis.
So if you have like a dude who's like a man, like a man's man, he's probably not going to have a super tiny dick.
Not if he's roided up, though.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, I wouldn't want that.
That's what he knows.
Manly mens are.
Yeah, and then I mean, it's plausible that there's a man who has in one of those fields or and or who has high testosterone that also has a micropenis.
I would imagine there's some police officer out there somewhere.
Maybe he's not like on the patrol, but he's doing desk duty.
Why wouldn't he be on patrol?
Why wouldn't he be on patrol, Brian?
No, I don't want the, I don't know.
Just creating this like very fringe example here.
But okay, anyways, moving on from the unless, wait.
No, no, no.
I want to say the answer is I'm with Aussies.
I think that God's got it under control.
I don't think I need to practice before.
And I do value health really highly in myself and in the future, the person that I want.
So hormone health, everything.
I think that that's really important for marriage.
So yeah.
All right.
Let me get these other super chats.
We got Brandon here in the chat.
Salad City Rebel.
Thank you for the $10 super chat, man.
Thank you for the support.
10 appearances on the show, Chase, and you haven't asked anyone if they would like to accept Christ into their life.
The Lord will, the Lord's will compels it.
Chase, your response?
I mean, dude, like, if I have the opportunity, I'll totally ask.
I don't want to impose on Brian the process of converting somebody, though.
Bringing somebody to Jesus.
Have you converted people?
Yeah.
Yeah, I brought a lot of my friends to Christ.
I just burst into flames right now.
I feel the heat.
Hey, Brandon, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
We have Schaefer Meister.
What's up, Jordan?
Thank you for the $10 super chat.
Appreciate the support.
What's up, boys?
Would love to come on the pod sometime soon.
Question for the girls.
Rich man, small PP, or large PP, poor as hell.
What's up with all the peen questions tonight?
Really?
Pean on the moon?
Sounds like a finish to me.
Hit the cash eye.
I would like to form a pen.
Okay, so I was like really trying to move away.
I'm conflicted because that's my boy, but also like I've got enough talk with the genitals tonight.
Like you can ask them if you want, bro.
It's up to you.
If he's your friend, we're allowed to veto it, though, right?
I guess.
His money, bro.
Are you going to pay him back?
Just quick, quick, quick impressions.
Quick impressions.
Okay, rich man, small penis.
Rich man or man, huge dong.
Okay, go for it.
Next.
What?
I can't think.
I mean, I'm already with a man, baby.
I'm sorry.
If you weren't.
Well, she's married.
I don't know.
Thank you.
Let's give her a free.
I would probably go, well, because my answer earlier, motion of the ocean.
So probably rich guy.
Small penis.
Okay.
Ask me on OnlyFans.
What?
She's just here for the bag.
He's not giving you any free content.
None free.
I'm not looking at the money or the penis, so passing on that.
Yeah, I have no answer.
I don't know.
Tara?
I would do wealth because I'm, I don't know.
He has, if he's a provider, again, sexual chemistry doesn't have to relate to like penis size.
But being able to like provide a good life for our family is built in.
Rock and roll, Red.
Thank you for the $10 soup chat.
Appreciate it.
Loving the show.
One other question for the ladies.
5'5 ⁇ .
Jesus, what?
Okay.
5'5 average guy with a 50K salary who you love, or a 6'5 NBA player with an 8-inch BBC.
Also, should we, I mean, maybe we should add to this.
The NBA player is not going to be faithful to you.
Dude, I feel like I feel like you know every one of our answers before we even answer it.
Dude, she's going to say NBA.
I'm going to say NBA.
She's going to say she's married.
I just say.
I don't know if she's going to say NBA.
She's going to say mirrored.
She's going to say mirrored.
She's going to say NBA or marriage.
That's a good summary.
That's pretty accurate.
I was only going to say, I don't date men shorter than me and I'm 5'9.
So there's my answer.
There you go.
I would like to, if I may, put forth an executive order for the show.
No more discussion of dick size or labia or any of that design.
Can we agree to that, Brian?
What?
Unless they're going to be able to do that.
Listen, no more discussion.
Tell you what.
Tell you what, Chase.
It's so gross.
Tell you what, this is what I can do for you, good sir.
It's part of your body chase.
Thank you.
I will.
I will oblige you on the penis.
But if the labia comes up, I'm talking about it.
Okay, moving on.
All right.
Like, that's great.
Can I ask your logo was really good.
Did you make on the labia site?
That was me.
I made that.
I love it.
It's like the heart.
Yeah, it was really clever.
I'll give you that.
I did that.
Okay.
Jay, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
This panel smells like pumpkin spice latte, fresh dogs, and dry.
Okay, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Any of those things.
Fresh's toothbrush.
Thank you for the $10 soup chat.
Never seen so many girls proud of being used up.
Then we wonder how so many people are passing around diseases.
Jesus.
What does that mean?
What is used up?
Ladies, please close your legs toothbrush.
And value yourself.
Okay, Fresh's toothbrush.
Anybody want to clap back at him?
Yeah, I've never had an STD.
What is used up?
I mean, like, your opinion is worth $9.99.
Good for you.
You put a price on it.
I actually have an opinion.
So I saw that, I think it was yesterday's or Tuesday's stream.
It was like an Andrew Tate video.
Yeah.
And he said that he wants a virgin over like a girl with like a higher body count, right?
That just screams pedo.
Whoa, I did the same thing.
They hated me.
I'll see a bit more PG.
Let me play this one more.
So you're saying if an older guy wants a virgin like her.
You're not a virgin.
I mean, you may be born a lot.
Hold on.
If an older guy is a virgin.
Ladies, ladies, ladies, if an older guy wants a virgin-like grace, that makes him a pedophile.
That's what you're saying right now.
Okay, he's like, what, pushing 40?
So how many 38?
So let's say she mates a 38 year old.
She meets a 38-year-old.
Does that make him a pedophile?
How old are you?
23.
23, 38.
That's like, how big of a difference is that and I didn't go to college.
Andrew Tate is 36.
Okay, let's just.
He's pushing 40.
How many 36-year-old virgins are there?
Probably not many.
Yeah, but he wants to date like young baddies.
He wants someone who's barely legal.
That sounds like someone who grooms.
Because she's forgetting part of what Andrew Tate was saying.
He wasn't just saying a virgin.
He was saying somebody under the age of 20.
So it was like 18 to 20 was his gap.
Because she goes to the bar with you.
He said his ideal was a 19-year-old when he's 36.
She ain't getting a bigger.
If you can't get a newsflash for you, that's a lot of guys.
We know we already went over it, but that doesn't make it right.
No, it doesn't make it wrong just because you think it's wrong.
Maybe there's a reason why it's not.
There's a lot of girls' ideals as rich guys.
That's fine.
It doesn't play on their age, though.
Was she old enough to drive when she was born?
What does that have to do with that?
That's a good point.
It's like a way to tell the age gap is like just because you guys feel like it's wrong doesn't make it wrong.
This has been the norm throughout all of human history.
Older guys with resources go for younger women.
It's fine.
That's human nature.
Younger adult women.
Yes.
Because they would go for a 14-year-old if they could to do the next best thing on the street.
This is progression.
This is progressing.
How is it projecting?
If you got one 14-year-old, I think you're projecting right now, not me.
I'm just telling you what human nature is like and what it's been like throughout history.
Men go to the past.
And I'm telling you, just because it's human nature, human nature is also men go out for human nature and don't know how to keep it in their pants.
That's still human nature.
It doesn't mean you make it right.
Just because it's human nature doesn't mean it's right.
There's plenty of women who can't keep their legs closed either.
Keiko are rape.
Plenty of women against racist.
There's plenty of women who can't keep their legs closed.
Doesn't make that right.
Just because you're, like she said, a born-again virgin doesn't mean just you can have all these new opinions of keeping your legs closed.
No, you just said, you just said there's plenty of guys who can't keep it in their pants.
That doesn't make it right.
I was making a synonym for rape.
I don't want to say rape on here is what I meant.
By keeping their pants, I was saying they take it on unwilling suspects.
How does this evolve into rape?
Because I was saying that's what I was saying earlier, but I was trying to use a synonym and not just use that word, just throwing it out there.
But I was saying that's why you were saying human nature.
There's men who like younger women by human nature.
I was also saying it's human nature with how big a percentage of men we have who go out and rape women.
Does it mean it's gone?
Okay, hold on.
I don't know a single guy.
Okay.
I would guarantee you.
I would guarantee you some of your close friends have probably assaulted a woman.
Just based on facts.
It's numbers.
It's one in four.
That's just based on numbers, we have to do it.
Okay, I don't think that's fair to the men.
It's not one in four.
But yeah, she's actually active, so how would you know?
I do want to say something.
Let's look.
Okay, Grace, go ahead.
Just real quick.
We'll come back in.
I think I see where you girls are at with what Andrew Tate said and seeing it, it going through your head and then filtering it through that seeing him as a pedophile or like that that's leading to that.
I think though, if you really look at what he's saying and you really watch that, what he's saying is that he wants, he doesn't want an older woman who's been with a bunch of partners because he wants to be.
I'm not saying, I'm not siding with him completely, but I do think that he has a good point that men do want women who have less baggage.
Why?
Probably worshipped?
Because I'm not afraid of that.
It's actually married.
Like, what the fuck?
You guys don't even have a fucking cloud to save.
I get what you're saying.
I get what you're saying.
That's why, like, it makes sense, though, for people like Chase.
People like Chase who would want somebody with a lower body count because he's also now saving himself.
So that makes sense because he's saving himself now, so he wants somebody else who would save himself.
Andrew Tate's not fucking saving himself.
He's going out and probably fucking multiple women a day.
So it's a little weird for somebody who wants somebody to be saving themselves when somebody's body count is probably over 300%.
Are men and women the same?
Hold on, though.
Are men and women the same?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
So you're saying men can go and have multiple partners, but not women.
Hold on, Everybody.
Andrew Tate didn't say he wants a woman who's saving herself.
He simply said that he wants a girl who has a lower body count and less baggage.
That's a 12-year-old.
No, that's not what he said.
That's not what he said.
Not all of us.
That's not what he said.
He said, like 18 to 26.
You can't even be mad about this.
This is your fault.
What?
No, this is ridiculous.
This is ridiculous.
You can't accuse men who want legal of age women.
You guys are accusing men who want legal of age women of being pedophiles.
That is a lot of people.
A 50-year-old man wants an 18-year-old.
It's fucking at first.
It was 30s.
Now it's 50.
Can I say that?
Because you guys are making it more.
Because it's like, for me, I'm only 22 years old, and when I see most 18-year-old boys, they literally look like children to me.
They look like a whole fucking child that I could have birthed myself.
When I see a 16-year-old boy, they literally look like infants.
Okay, I'm attracted to women too.
If I see a 16-year-old girl, I'm like, they still look like a fucking child.
We're not talking about 16.
We're not talking about 16.
I know, but you're not getting my point.
You're not getting my point.
Okay, even an 18-year-old girl.
Now, at 22 years old, I see most 18-year-olds.
I'm like, holy crap, you look like a whole child, like a freaking infant compared to me.
And I'm only 22.
Infants.
So that's why it's weird to me.
Yes.
Yes.
Like, off the bat, I could tell.
I'm not sure if she semantics.
You know what she's trying to get at?
Thank you.
Off the bat, I could tell that she was the youngest one in this room immediately.
It was obvious.
It was obvious that she carries herself very youngly.
It's not something, even though she's only a year younger than me.
She's shot somewhere.
You could just tell.
You could just tell.
And that's what you're seeking out.
It's weird to me.
Point blank, period.
You sound very triggered by it for some reason.
I do, because you're because it's, I know it's not all men, but it's 22.
But it's the men who try to act like it's not a big issue.
It's not an issue.
It's not.
It's not an issue.
It's not men.
It's not an issue at all.
It's no.
We're literally like so many people.
What are you trying to say?
Pedophilia is not an issue?
No.
That's basically what you're saying, though.
You keep making it into pedophilia, but it's not.
That's our whole conversation.
You're tried up.
That's the conversation we're on right now.
Trying to shame men for having preferences for younger women by labeling it something that's illegal.
That's a classic, that's a classic shame tactic.
Nobody talked about having interest in women under the age of 18.
We just said a lot of men prefer younger women.
And you're like, that's fucking pedophilia.
I think this is projection.
That's a good hominin.
No, that's not you.
That's what projection means.
So you're going to accuse me of being a basically a pedophile.
No, I'm not accusing you of a lot of people.
I'm not accusing you of being a pedophile.
What I'm accusing you of is being triggered by this and trying to shame men because you know it won't work in your favor someday.
Maybe I'm so triggered by it from the time when I was underage and how many older men were trying to get me.
I couldn't even walk down the street.
So I'm not saying that's what I'm talking about, though.
We're not talking about the same thing.
We're talking about adult.
We're talking about adult women here between the age of 18 to 25.
But calling an 18, 18, teen-year-old an adult.
It doesn't matter.
It's still legal.
Yes, you're an adult as an 18.
That sounds so good.
Still legal.
You're legally an adult.
How is that?
Okay.
Okay, hold on.
Let me, I want to come in on this.
Hold on.
Let me come in and I'll let you.
Okay, so first off, at 18 years old, you can buy a gun.
You can join the military.
All guns.
So basically, please don't.
Just let him finish.
Let him stop.
Can you stop talking?
Let me talk.
Stop talking.
Let him finish.
Okay, so at 18, you're an adult.
You're legally an adult at 18.
If you want to attach the teen to it at 18, 19, fine.
But this is the thing: men are not allowed to have preferences, standards, and boundaries.
It happens to be the fact, it happens to be the case that men are attracted to younger women for a myriad of reasons.
And when I say younger women, I mean women, adult women, from 18 and up.
Okay, 18, let's say 18 to 25.
They've done studies on this.
They ask men of all ages, the peak attractiveness that they see in women is between the age of like 20 and 21.
20 and 22 is what men find the most physically attractive, that age range.
It's just, it's kind of funny.
Like, we don't shame women for y'all preferences.
You want a guy who's confident, rich, funny, charismatic, all these things, right?
But men, we have different preferences than you guys do.
What's the matter?
It's basically the men that you're talking about from this observation.
18?
From 18 to 60.
Men prefer women.
Yes, men find the most of the women that they find the most attractive, it's between 20 and 22.
What about the 65-year-olds?
It's the same.
He showed a little thing, and it's like basically it just stops at 22.
Like they just stop fighting women over age or 20 to attractive, no matter how old they get.
But it's funny, like men always get shamed for this.
It's always met with some sort of contempt, disdain, shaming language, insecure.
I'm not going to use the word.
If you wanted to go with big titties and a fat asshole and say, that's your preference, dude, go for it.
It's just, it's a preference I understand that I have a problem with.
Okay, here's another reason why men, there's an evo-psych reason for why men care about a woman's age, why they prefer younger women.
It comes down to fertility.
Younger women are more capable for the reason why.
Okay, let's say you're 35.
No, let's say you're a 40-year-old man.
You're not going to, if you want to have a family, you want to have children, you're not going to pair with a 40-year-old woman because the likelihood that she's going to be able to bring a pregnancy to term is minuscule.
So as a 40-year-old guy, you're going to be looking younger.
You're going to be looking late 20s, 30s, you know, in that age range.
You're going to always be looking younger because for biological reality, women at a certain age can no longer bring a child to term.
So it's on an intellectual level, like I can think, okay, I'm not going to try to date a 40-year-old if I want to have kids, but also it's an evolutionary thing.
We find, we look for indicators of youth, and that's what we find attractive.
I get that point, and that's, I would say that's a good percentage of the reason why, whatever, but I would think it's unfair to say that's the majority, because like where I think of the stereotypical, you know, like huge age gap relationship, it's usually the divorced older man who already has his kids, an ex-wife who's now getting with the hot young 20-year-old.
They don't even have kids 99% of the time.
The guys who seek out these young girls, I really, okay, let me not say 99 because I know you guys are going to kill me for that.
When I see most of these men with the younger girls, I honestly don't see most of them reproducing with them.
Maybe on occasion, like on freaking Modern Family with Sophia Viagra, but usually they're not having it.
Go ahead.
So your thing about age gap kind of like just doesn't resonate with me because my parents have a 22-year age gap.
And my dad was a divorced grandfather when he met my mom, who was 22 years younger and engaged.
And he broke up her engagement as a divorced grandfather.
How old was your mom?
My mom was 30 and my dad was 50.
Okay, I think.
I think age gaps are all radically thrown out the window once 30 is involved.
Okay, I don't get that then.
I don't know.
Because after once you hit 30, you've gone through so much of your lifespan and you're so far away from 18.
So do you think women aren't truly adults until they're 30?
Like no, I never really said that.
I never said that.
But I think that a lot of women under the age of 25 or closer to that point don't have a lot in common with men who are 50 plus or whatever.
And I think they do have more characteristics of just being young.
I feel like once you're at 30, like especially my coworkers that I know, once they're at 30, you're just at a more adult place in your life.
Not everybody, obviously, everybody's different.
Everybody ages differently.
But most 30-year-olds I know are at the same range as 40-year-old and plus than my 25 and under friends that I know.
So like I don't want to be 22 living in my dorm in IV with eight people going on and then my boyfriend is dropping off his three kids to school or is going to be welcoming his grandchild or something.
Like it's just different rules.
We don't want that either.
We don't want that either.
I'm not saying you do, but she was just bringing up the age gap why I don't think 30 is different because I think somebody at 30 is doing different things than somebody at 22, 23.
I agree with that.
I don't think guys should.
I don't think men should be shamed though for having those preferences.
As a woman, I'll say that.
Because and I don't think it's demeaning to women that they do.
And the reason being is because it's biologically wired into them.
So it's not them doing that to be, it's not, it's just a way of.
Can I ask you a question?
Hold on, I'll let you come in really quickly.
Just to add to her point, it's rooted in biology and evolutionary.
It's hardwired attraction traits.
Go ahead.
But what about like the opposite?
So if all these men of all these ages are all going for like the same age group, is there any like young men that are like, well, I don't stand a chance in hell.
I'm not particularly rich and stuff.
All I have is my youth.
Is there any like, you know, like, what about the sugar mama situation?
Is there like the young men that's just like, well, I'm young, dumb, and full of cum.
I don't want to get some bitch pregnant because that's the whole thing to deal with.
And like, I could just go for them old baddies and they got their own money and they don't give a shit that I'm poor.
I mean, right?
That's well, okay, so I'll speak to that.
I dated the woman who's 45.
Right.
On the finance.
No, it didn't mean anything.
I mean, maybe she wanted sex, but maybe, you know, financially.
Well, no, yeah, and she didn't have children, so she was, you know, there weren't issues there.
But I mean, it wasn't, it certainly wasn't a sugar mama situation.
I mean, it didn't have to exactly be that.
I was just thinking it's like if everyone's going for the same young girls, what are the young guys going for?
Like, well, do they stand a chance?
Okay, if you ask men like what they find attractive, they will say that.
But most men probably like they're not going to have a either be physically attractive enough or be of a certain status level to be able to, you know, if you're in your 30, if you're 35, but you're kind of a bum, good luck with the 20-year-olds, you know.
But Tatum, did you want to come in on this?
Oh, your thoughts.
My thoughts on that.
On the whole age gap.
Age is just a number to me, so it doesn't really matter.
At the end of the day, though, like if I was a 22-year-old and a 40-year-old was pursuing me, I would think that's a little creepy.
I'm not sure if you're a good person.
If I was like a 22-year-old and a 40-year-old was pursuing me, I would probably find that a little strange.
You'd find it strange.
I would find it strange because I'd be like, what do I have to offer you?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, your beauty, your youth, your fertility.
That sounds like that.
There's so much objectifying here.
I know it's very triggering.
It's not your personality.
You're definitely not that personal.
No, I totally understand.
Obviously, assuming she has a personality, those are the main things.
Maybe legs and feet, too.
She can walk over and then suck that big old cock.
What the fuck?
I mean, it's just like.
But one, like, just to clarify, because I know I sound like the freaking grim reaper of all men.
I would say the exact same thing to a 40-year-old woman pursuing an 18-year-old boy.
I would say the exact same thing.
It's not one side.
It's just we just normally see the other side.
So it's not like I would be like, oh, yeah, you know, old woman wants to pursue a little.
Like, I wouldn't say that at all.
I think it's both wrong.
But if both parties are consensual?
Why do you want to control what other people are?
Because I have been in the situation now where it's in the same way.
Have you been preyed on by multiple times?
When I was in my youth, that's all I experienced, especially because I was heavier than.
Honestly, I had a fat ass.
I had big tits when I was younger.
That's all.
And I would say, like, I'm 14.
I'm 12.
Doesn't matter.
We just don't need to tell anybody.
They don't need to know.
I saw it so much in my life.
And I work with children and I work with high school kids.
So I see it firsthand so often.
So that's why I am so passionate about this because maybe I just see it more often than you would as just a normal person.
But it just happens so often in front of me as to why I am a little bit more suspicious when I do see those men who want the younger ones because I have people who are supposed to be my employees and I'm their manager and they're 16 years old crying to me because their 30-year-old boyfriend broke up with them.
Men's like, that shouldn't be happening.
That makes sense.
I personally never see it.
That's why, but that's why I wanted to show you my side of it.
Yeah, thank you for explaining that.
I mean, men of any age who find women between the age of 18 to 25 physically attractive, I mean, yes, are there predators out there?
Of course.
But I mean, we're talking about such a fringe.
It's a very small amount of what we're talking about here.
So it's not even worth having this conversation.
If you want to, like, you're using this very extreme example to make your argument.
We can have a conversation.
What extreme example might you have?
Well, you're trying to say men who are attracted to women, say, between the age of 18 to 22, there's something else there.
We can argue.
Hold on.
That's not what I thought.
That's where you were going, though.
But okay, we can have a discussion of, man, why don't men want to date women their own age?
We can have that discussion.
But to frame men who are attracted to women who are, say, between the age of 18 to 23 as something more than just men who are attracted to beautiful adult women, it's kind of, I don't think it's a fair argument to be making.
That's your opinion, and I just disagree.
And that's like, and I personally, my last few people I've dated have been 30, and I'm 22.
So it's not like I'm against a huge ass age one.
You're 22.
I'm 20.
Why are we even fucking awesome?
Because I'm at the end of what you guys are saying, what the gap you're saying, I'm already at the end of that.
My problem is, I know it's only four years, but as a guy, no, that's not what I'm saying.
So you're saying that older guys are 22, but I'm saying I've developed so much as a person from 18 to 22.
I have grown so much from 18 to 22 that, yes, I think it is weird for someone at 30 who would be attracted to an 18-year-old.
Why are you attracted to somebody you can't even take out to have a drink?
Like, that's just weird to me.
You don't drink.
Okay.
We should just move on from this.
Please.
We're never going to get to that.
I'm going to ever walk out of this room.
Tatum, it looks like you had something to add.
Oh, I was just going to say, so I'm 29, and I was just going to say from experience, it's interesting because guys that are my age and a little bit older typically will go for women that are younger than me.
And then I actually have a lot of younger men that are 27, between the ages of like 25 and 27, maybe 28, reaching me out and trying to hit me up constantly.
But older men, not so much.
So I'm just saying, from personal experience, it's interesting just to kind of see that.
You said you have younger guys sitting on the ground?
Oh, all the time.
All the time.
Winter over 21.
I think it all changes at 21, honestly.
My big problem is just the 18 to 21 range.
Because if you're out and you're at a club or you're partying, whatever, and like it's obviously if they're there illegally, that's a different story.
But like if you're able to meet somebody, I don't, the first thing I ask, I don't ask somebody, what's your age?
That's not the first thing I ask somebody.
But like if I'm meeting a man or girl at a club or a bar, it just happens to be the most of the time they're around the ages of 27 to 29.
They would, but most of the time, they don't look at me and they're like, oh, yeah, I thought you were 22.
Most of the time, they think I'm 25 or older or whatever.
But like, I just want to.
Should we watch the tape video?
No.
Let's just watch the tape video to just drive a nail into the.
I'm going to go to the bathroom then.
You're going to have to go.
You got to go to the bathroom?
Yeah.
You can go first.
Because of the tape video or because of your bladder?
No, but my bladder.
Let me do some super chats before we pull that up.
Well, that was a heated conversation, gentlemen.
Okay, so where was I?
I thought.
I have a dog, not a cat, by the way.
Chat.
Chat?
Clipsburg.
Chat, are we?
Okay.
Where were we?
Sorry, I'm trying to catch up here.
Okay, we got.
Shell shock 777.
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Hey, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
I honestly, I think the barber kind of scuffed it up, but whatever.
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Charm is deceptive and beauty does not last.
But a woman who fears the Lord will be greatly praised.
Proverbs 3130.
Is that the one that's in your verse?
That is great.
Oh, wait.
What's the one about not wanting to date quarrelsome women?
Or it's better to.
It's better to live in a desert than it is with a quarrelsome wife.
Okay.
Or something like that.
With the what?
It's better.
Quarrelsome wife.
What does that mean?
A wife who gives you a lot of shit, argues a lot of arguments.
Same with the husband.
Okay.
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Question for the ladies.
Do you prefer guys with or without facial hair?
How many do we do we have two people missing at the moment?
We got two.
Yeah.
Okay.
We can just ask with who we have.
Hensley, facial hair or no facial hair?
No.
I don't know if I have a preference, but probably do prefer if I do have one.
Scruffy.
Oh, yeah, with facial hair for sure.
I like both.
Both.
Wait, I have a question.
So you're 22, but you were saying like that you saw me and you could like tell I was the youngest because like serious but I'm like one year younger than you.
So like I don't know that Loki came up condescending.
Do you want to like clarify why like a 12 month difference of men studying at all?
I'm really young.
Maybe I've experienced more.
Also, how old are you?
22.
Yeah, 22.
I don't know.
Even just looking at you.
It's like 21 to 22 is just like if I had to guess your age, I would have guessed you were like 18 or 19, personally.
You just, to me, not from how you, before you even open your mouth, it's not how you speak, it's not how you carry yourself.
Just look-wise, you look the youngest.
Like you just, you can see somebody and have a conceptualization of their age.
And I would just say that you look the youngest out of anyone here.
Okay.
That's funny.
I assumed you were younger than she was.
Really?
Yeah.
Interesting.
Okay, moving on.
You get crispy.
Crispy.
Good skincare routine.
That's what we're saying.
It's a compliment, girls.
Nothing.
As long as it's a compliment and not, it was nothing to do with that.
Why did none of you say I was the youngest of the women here?
God.
Yeah, or me.
It was like when I was sitting on the couch, right?
When I walked in and saw you on the couch, you just looked the youngest to me.
You didn't even say a word to me.
We took some meals.
Okay.
We got, hold on.
Crispy Kim here with the $10 Super Chat.
Women saying men wanting young pure women is like rooted in that is like saying women wanting successful men is rooted in being broke 30 foes.
It's biology.
Y'all just mad the clock ticking and you're not pure.
That's exactly right.
It's exactly right.
Men wanting younger women is the equivalent of young women wanting men wanting younger women is the equivalent, and for clarification, legally of age women, is the equivalent of younger women wanting older guys with resources.
It's the same benefit trade-off.
It doesn't make the young girls hoes.
It's just natural.
It's human nature.
Right, but in a situation like that, wouldn't you say that the men would usually pursue the girl first before the girl would pursue, would pursue in all situations, maybe.
In almost all situations, men pursue the woman, but maybe.
Well, I'm just talking about like the, what am I trying to say?
The situation at hand where you're saying that like men dating younger women is the same thing as a woman dating.
What's up, Henry?
I'm pursuing an older guy.
I feel like this doesn't need to be explained.
So many younger women want older guys.
Like when I was a freshman, hold on, hold on.
Hold your thought.
Let's let each other talk, okay?
I'm not answering her question.
Okay, hold on.
Okay.
Yeah, one microphone at the time.
Go ahead, Chase.
When I was a freshman in college, there were so many girls that wanted older guys, guys that were seniors, guys that were out of college.
I knew girls that knew guys in their early 30s.
They thought they were super hot.
And these guys were like adults and they were studs.
That's totally natural.
I don't hold it against them.
Just like I don't hold it against those 31-year-old dudes for wanting these freshman babes that I was friends with, you know?
It's so natural.
It's normal.
Okay, fair.
What I'm saying, though, is like it's the same situation.
What I'm trying to say is, you're calling these men weirdos for pursuing the younger girls.
I know.
I'm just saying.
The freshman babes.
The freshman babes.
It's real.
But then the younger girls.
We'll take sophomores.
You know what?
We should just move on from this conversation.
We should just move on because this is like, we're like beating a dead horse about it.
Okay, let me get through the soup chats because we got quite a few.
We got Dave on Jackson.
Thank you, man.
By the way, we have the, you have joined the picture frame gang.
10 to those soup chats.
So what you're saying is 18 to 20 year olds shouldn't be having sex at all since they were children to you, right?
Okay.
I mean, if you want.
What does that even mean?
Not with 30-year-old men.
Yeah, he's trying to trigger you.
Andrew Tate asked the panel if they want to date a guy with Bugatti, a four-time world kickboxing champion, a multi-millionaire, tall, handsome, someone who protects and provides for women.
The top gee.
This is the actual stretching tall.
Even my husband might let me date this.
This looks good.
Isn't Andrew Tate like 5'8?
Oh, shit.
He's like 6'3 ⁇ .
Really?
How much is his dick down?
That's like he gives such short man energy that like I thought he was like under 6.
Wait, whoa, whoa, hold on.
What did you just say?
He just gives like such a bad thing.
Strain the mic.
Straighten it up.
There you go.
Very good.
Yeah.
Very good.
It's short man energy.
What does that mean?
Are you hating on short men?
Yeah, it was kind of mean.
It was like a derogatory stance, I guess you could say.
You know what?
I'll let it slide as long as you're okay with fat girl energy.
I'm.
Are you okay with fat girl energy?
I've done my due diligence in dating a man shorter than me, so I feel like I could say that.
That's if short guy energy is okay, then fat girl energy has to be okay, too.
I feel like huge energy.
I love women of all sizes.
Whoever said that it wasn't.
What does it mean?
Is she cuddly?
Like, she really wants to give you a hoodie.
No, no, she's saying a girl is a huge bitch is kind of the equivalent of calling a guy short guy energy.
It's the same thing.
Wait, but not that, but that's not what he said.
I know.
I'm upgrading what he's saying.
Well, we were just asking what he meant.
Huge, literally?
Don't you feel like huge bitch is a better equivalent of short energy?
I mean, I got what you mean by huge bitch.
That's pretty.
I didn't define huge bitch.
What'd you say?
Define huge bitch.
Just like a woman with a really shitty attitude.
So huge, like, metaphorically.
Yeah.
Okay.
Not necessarily literally.
And literally.
Yeah, and literally.
And sure.
And spiritually.
Okay.
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Literally.
Okay, sorry.
The dog just attacked me in my.
Literally, men from the ages of 18 to 64 prefer women in the range of 18 to 24.
For women, they typically prefer a man four to seven years older.
Get out of your feelings.
Facts.
Thank you, bro.
That's true.
I do not, I won't date guys that are 20, 20, 21.
Even my age, I just don't.
I don't.
That's fair.
I just won't.
It's so natural too.
Yes.
And it's not.
It really is.
Like, I've gone out with guys that are 30, and it's, my maturity, and I'm not, like, hyping myself up here.
I just don't, I don't identify with 22-year-olds, 23-year-olds.
I just not on the same wavelength.
Most of my friends are 27, 28.
The CEO at the company I work at thought I was 27 for a long time.
And I actually don't mind that because that's just, yeah.
And so I want a guy that's older.
Grace, what's your ideal age in a partner?
Probably 27, 28 because I think that he has to get his life together.
I have dated younger guys, and I have a huge theory on that if a guy doesn't have his, if he's not through school and doesn't have a career and hasn't been through those really difficult struggles at like to find himself and find what he wants to do around those ages, I don't think he's ready for a relationship.
And I actually wouldn't want to be with somebody that hasn't gone through that on his own before we partner up because then I know that I can be his focus.
Otherwise, he needs to focus on himself and his career and building himself during that age.
So I heard a theory recently, and I think, I wonder if it's true.
It's kind of true in my experience, but that successful guys from the ages of like 26 to 29 are like the biggest fuckboys, which is unfortunate.
Because I feel like, wait, what age?
26 to 29.
I don't know, Chase.
I've heard that he is in the middle of the day.
I'm saving myself for my wife at this point.
Now, can I ask a quick question about you mentioned earlier that you converted a few of your friends to Christianity?
You know what?
Oh, I'm sorry.
I need to continue with the super chats, but we can touch on that later or after the show.
Just to keep the show moving along here.
Okay, I believe we're here.
Crispy Kim, thank you for the $10 super chat.
I appreciate the support.
You three FOs would cheer a woman on that's doing OnlyFans and tripping it at 18.
But if a man wants it all the sudden, she is a clueless damsel in distress that's going to be abused by men.
Zero consistency and logic.
That's true.
Yeah, okay, you can do porn and OnlyFans, but what you can't hook up with these girls.
There's no physical touching in that case.
Maybe I guess just to put it in the middle of the morning.
I mean, these girls would rather see young women at 18 sell their bodies to guys online than get into a caring and loving monogamous relationship with an older guy.
This is such a clear sign of how far our society is falling.
That's what he wrote there.
I mean, who said that?
You didn't ask any of us if that's how we actually feel.
I literally just listened to everybody freak out for 10 minutes about how dudes are pedophiles if they're going for an 18-year-old.
Everybody wasn't freaking out about it.
You guys weren't.
She was.
She was.
I can't remember if you were, but Hensley's shut down at this point.
Which is not to say that I'm pro-pedophilia, for fuck's sake.
Let's just have a look at that.
Let's just, for the rest of the show, take that word out of the conversation.
Well, I'm also in an age gap marriage, like not as large as over there in 22 years, but five years, you know, whatever.
Yeah, I get it.
Yeah, but these girls would literally rather see an 18-year-old sell her body online than be with an older guy who cares about her.
It's sad.
I never said I agreed with that.
I mean, yeah, no one really said that.
I agree with it.
And what about it?
Because it's up to that 18-year-old.
And why are you so judgmental about that?
You said it was pedophilia when the guy wanted it, but now you're saying it's up to the 18-year-old.
So it's fine if she wants it.
And I didn't say that because that's my opinion.
I said what she said.
I know, but I said the same thing.
And my opinion is: I understand she's getting her money, do whatever she wants.
I think the legal age should be raised to 21, personally.
To do what?
I don't have to do sex work and those things.
I think it should be 21.
Do you think the adult age for women should also be 21?
Because right now it's 18.
I think the adult age for everybody should be 21, since considering at 18, the only thing you could do is buy a shotgun, buy a lottery ticket, move.
Yeah, if you can't drink legally until you're 21, if you can't even rent a car until you're 25 when your brain's fully developed, no, I don't think seven years earlier you should be considered a legal adult, personally.
Noted.
Okay, moving on.
We got God the Almighty-based father with the 10 Canadian dollars.
Thank you for the support, man.
Appreciate it.
Well, what is that?
Oh, is that like a family guy comments?
Hilarious.
Austice.
Austice.
My darling, please move away.
I'm about to rain fire on the right side of the table.
Bring down the fire and brimstone.
I got something for this.
I will rain down on a godly firestorm.
God damn, you guys are shut up.
Shut up.
Shut up.
I will rain down on a godly fucking firestorm upon you.
You're going to have to call the fucking United Nations and get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you.
I am talking scorched earth, motherfucker.
I will massacre you.
I will fuck you up.
I'm sorry.
Was I abusing?
Was Tom Cruise in Tropic Thunder?
Was I abusing?
I'm sorry.
Okay.
Let's see.
We got Fresh's Toothbrush.
Thank you for the super chat, man.
Appreciate it.
Women can like older men, but older men can't like younger women.
Question mark.
Men and women don't have anything in common, ladies.
LOL, are y'all okay?
What?
When women are doing it for OnlyFans, they're not doing it for pleasure.
Most of the time, they're doing it for money.
So they don't do it because they like older men.
They do it because they like older men's money.
If any young women are watching, please do not model your lifestyle after her.
Thank you very much.
And that's from the Christian man.
Yes, I'm looking out for you young ladies.
I'm not judging you.
That's fine, but if you ever want to get married, there's a lot of young girls out there who want to get married someday.
If pictures of yourself doing sexual things are all over the internet, your husband and your kids will not appreciate that.
What are your kids going to think of this?
I think Northwest is doing just fine.
Northwest.
Yeah, she's living her life.
Kanye's.
Yeah, she's doing great with her mom.
I mean, given the option between a mom who has porn on the internet versus one who doesn't have porn on the internet, I would prefer if all of my friends couldn't see my mom fucking other dudes and sucking their dicks.
I still consider myself a Christian.
I still consider myself a Christian.
I do.
And that just means that I believe that Jesus died on the cross for my sins, and I'm not a fucking judgmental person like you.
What gives you the right?
You're not perfect.
You should know better than anyone that we are sinners.
Okay, you're right.
We're not perfect.
And I know I'm not.
So get off your high horse.
I know I'm not perfect.
No, get off your high horse.
What makes you think that you're better than everyone else?
You are a sinner.
You are recently born again.
So then why are you judging other people?
You can have your beliefs, but don't attack other people that's fucked up.
Okay, this side of the table was saying that it's a great lifestyle decision.
You said it's a great lifestyle decision at 18 to do that.
I was encouraging young ladies.
Did I say that for everyone?
Did I speak for everyone?
I was speaking for myself.
Okay, there's impressionable young girls out there.
Let me finish my point.
I let her speak.
There's impressionable young girls out there that are watching this.
Okay.
There was a girl who was on this show that got into OnlyFans.
Okay.
She had a lot going for her.
It's the kind of thing that a lot of women are going to regret when they're older.
You might not.
That's okay.
Second, I don't think I'm better than you.
I don't think I'm better than anybody.
I'm a sinner that should be damned to hell.
And Jesus rescued me from that.
And I'm grateful for that.
Okay.
But if you want to talk about, you know, I'm just as good of a Christian too.
Jesus said, if you truly love me, you will work to keep my commands.
And he also said, he also said, go, he also said, go and sin no more.
Okay.
And we're called to be models and examples for other people.
We're called to model Christ.
Do you think you're modeling Christ by doing OnlyFans?
I don't see it so black and white as you, Jill.
How?
He said, he said.
I'm going to be the type of Christian that I want to be.
He said, the kind that doesn't follow the Bible?
I mean, I'm sure that you're like following me.
I fuck up and I think that's what I don't think.
And I repent of it.
And I repent of it.
So do I repent.
I pray every day.
So you should pray and ask God to make you not so much of a judgmental asshole.
I'm simply saying young women shouldn't follow your example because they'll regret it.
Okay, well, young women should do whatever they want.
That's just a fact.
It's just a picture.
I think he should caveat it.
I think he should add the caveat.
Maybe like young girls who are looking for a specific type of family life and future, like settling down or raising.
Maybe you're less than married because I be that hard.
Hold on.
Do anything about your marriage.
Once you're fucking married, you can be pious as shit.
Okay, hold on to the time.
Let's imagine for a moment.
I'm married, man.
What do you think?
Like, I'm the only one that's actually married here.
Like, half the time when y'all have opinions about this, it's just so fucking laughable.
Like, what the fuck?
That's pretty rude, but hold on a second.
That's rude compared to what you're saying.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I mean, let's imagine.
Let me speak, please.
Let's imagine your guys' kids are in middle school, okay?
And your guys' kids' friend finds all of your porn pictures online, and everybody starts sharing it in the classroom, and they start teasing your kid and making fun of your kid.
There's literally been kids that have fucking killed themselves because they're not.
Let's imagine this one comes into their classroom and shoots the kid because that's how you finish teaching every day on the same time.
Please let me finish my point, okay?
There's kids that kill themselves over this, okay?
Hold on, hold on.
If your kids are triggered, if your kid, yeah, I'm triggered.
I'm triggered because I'm actually emotional.
Control your fucking tongue.
Just please exercise some self-control.
Not even my muscle control is tongue.
Hold on, stop, stop.
Exercise some self-control.
Stop.
Just let him finish and then you can go.
Whatever.
He has a point.
No, no, but stop, stop.
I'm trying to.
Just please let me.
You can respond, but just let him speak.
Yes, yes, yes.
Sorry.
Sorry, Brian.
Okay, just if your kid is in middle school or whatever and they're getting made fun of by all the other kids who found your pornography online, at that point in time, are you going to regret it?
Are you going to be like, no, I'm fucking happy that I made that decision?
My kid can go fuck himself.
Why should the mother who is a consenting adult who chose to do OnlyFans be crucified for her adult decision?
Shouldn't it be the one, the kids who are bullying the child who led them to commit?
Bro, no, I'm sorry.
I just like that.
So it's okay to bully them.
No, we're saying it's wrong to bully.
Then what's about completely avoiding responsibility?
I'm just saying it's a point about like selflessness.
Like I'm like a young girl.
Has the idea of like doing an OnlyFans, getting such easy money by taking one naked photo of myself crossed my mind?
You'd make like $5.
Okay.
I'm agree to disagree on that one.
So incredibly rude.
I can't.
Nothing rude.
Any of the industry is that you're not.
I'm not even sure.
Let her talk.
I'm sorry I said easy money.
I didn't mean that in a way as in like that OnlyFans is like an easy profession.
I know sex work is hard work, but if I like if I could okay, but weren't you just saying like, yeah, it's better than McDonald's.
I work a service job right now.
Has the idea popped in my mind of like doing like sex work over my service job?
I hope not because we're already oversaturated industry as it is.
Okay, so good thing that it did.
Okay, it did pop my mind, but I like will never do that route.
And it's because it's a route of like, of like self-buy.
I'm just trying to explain like a reason why I wouldn't.
I'm not shaming it.
Like go sex workers.
Like get your bag, okay?
Like good for you, though.
Be an independent, strong, independent woman.
I'm just explaining why I wouldn't, and I'm glad I decided not to and would recommend this to like, and would recommend just girls giving it a second chance because, but at the end of the day, I mean, it's not even, I don't even have to think that long term.
I have a family I love.
Is me getting 500 or whatever, $5,000 more dollars a month worth like shame to my loved ones and family members?
No.
Like I don't, I don't personally, like, it's out of like not wanting to be selfish that that's where that comes from me from.
If my, you know, I'm my con my actions have consequences.
At the end of the day, I don't have to look think long term about my future kids.
What about my parents?
What about like my siblings?
I'm not going to put them through that because I want to get 5K more.
I can do more with my mind as well as make money that don't just involve like photos of my body.
So I'm just going to choose that route because I'm not hurting anyone that I could if I was like my family, if I was like doing stuff like that.
But I'm like adding value to society.
Not that sex work doesn't add value.
That came across shady, but in ways that don't add harm to my close family members, which it would if I were to go that route.
So it's just an act of like selflessness to like not.
You're choosing to live your life for other people.
I'm choosing to live mine for myself and we can agree to disagree.
I don't, I'm not going to say anything.
Okay, we're going to move on because I just need to get through all these super chats here.
So we've got Austis.
Helpis Maria.
Oh, how do you pronounce her last name?
Good mundanstotter.
Question for the men.
Is that Icelandic Kroner?
Is it Icelandic Kroner?
Yes.
Islandska Kroner.
1500.
Thank you.
Question for the men.
If you start dating a woman, she's your perfect woman.
You want to marry each other and have kids, but when you find out she's infertile, would you still want to marry her?
So, I mean, for me, me personally, I'm not super pressed to have children.
I could go either way.
I might want to go double income, no kids.
But for me, it would not be a deal breaker necessarily.
But I think a lot of men probably, but Chase, I'll let you come in on this one.
That's a super hard question.
Honestly, like adoption?
Yeah, possibly.
My biggest goal in life is to become a dad.
Like, I want to do that so badly.
And she'd have to be pretty amazing for me to compromise on that.
But I don't know, maybe, you know?
Okay.
Got Dayvon Jackson here.
Thank you for the big $20 super chat.
Appreciate the support, man.
The things that make women attractive to men, she's born with the things that make men attractive to women.
He has to work for men peak later in life.
Why would man at his peak date a woman past her peak?
Facts, bro.
There's a saying, there's a saying, and I, I mean, I don't know where I stand on this, but Chase, your thoughts.
Well, actually, I'm not going to say it.
Never mind.
Okay.
Dayvonne, thank you for the big $20 super chat.
Much appreciated, man.
So we have another one, $10 super chat.
Please walk out because you're adding nothing but bag arguments and your emotions.
I think this is probably from like 20, 30 minutes ago.
What's it?
No, you're good.
You can stay.
Oh, shit.
I gotta go work anyways.
We got Captain Levi with the $10 Super Chat.
It's better to live alone in the corner of an attic than with a quarrelsome wife in a lovely home.
Proverbs 21, 9.
Yeah, I think that's the one I was.
There's a few verses about quarrelsome women in the Bible.
There's one that's like better to live on the corner of a room.
Or something like that.
I guess it depends on the, what's it called?
The translation or whatever.
Chrispy Kim, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
And by 3FOs, I mean only fans in neck tattoo and sons of anarchy.
Okay.
Other half of this panel is pretty based.
Hensley, you've been cool tonight.
Neck tattoo makes Hensley look like the virgin Mary.
Wait, who has the neck tattoo?
I think they're referring to my.
Oh, your butterflies.
Okay.
Really?
Tat it up.
We're talking about neck tattoos all around.
You should introduce her to Brandon.
Brandon?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why?
Because he's another tatted king.
Oh, yeah.
We can tat each other up.
We got Blossheep.
Thank you for the Canadian $10 Soup Chat.
Appreciate the support.
Shout out to Chase.
I'm wondering when the Christian stream is.
You're on it.
I mean, this is it, dude.
This is fucking it.
You couldn't tell.
I have a question for him.
Well, more just to say, I don't think you should say you're waiting for marriage if you aren't a virgin.
Yeah, I mean, to clarify, I've tried clarifying this.
I've begun to save myself for marriage moving forward starting two years ago.
Can I ask a question about this topic?
Because I was going to later.
Go for it.
So are you like, did you recently just start your faith?
Is that why you're being like a born-again virgin?
It's a good question.
I came to Jesus when I was 19, but I wasn't like going to church or anything.
I was just reading the Bible.
And I had two girlfriends between the ages of 19 and 25.
And I started to save myself when I was 25 because I realized how deep of a connection I was making with the girl I was with.
And I also realized we weren't going to marry one another.
And I knew that emotional imprint I was going to leave on her was like not something I wanted her future husband to deal with.
So I was like, all right, I can't keep doing this.
It's obvious to me, if a girl is really in love with you as a guy and you're having sex with her, she becomes so deeply attached to you.
And I could tell I was like sinning against her by continuing to have sex with her.
So I was like, all right.
So you became are you Christian?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've been Christian since I was 19, so for eight years.
And then once you practice more into your faith, that's when you came to that.
Yeah, it's been like a progressive process of like, okay, fuck, that's a sin.
I need to cut that out of my life.
That's a sin.
Are tattoos sins?
Yes.
Maybe I'm going to burn with all of you.
Yeah, technically.
I went to Catholic school for 12 years.
So I learned Catholic and Christian is different, but it's mostly the same.
So yeah.
I wanted to ask you about that tattoo for a long time.
I'm like, you're talking a lot of shit with a man with a big sin on his hand right there.
Yeah, that was.
You can get it lasered off.
And makeup, too.
Pre-Jesus.
I know.
I just want to say something on that.
I think just with us being Christians, I do want to say we are commanded not to judge.
So, like, literally the Bible says, let, like, God's going to judge.
So don't judge them.
So I actually don't think Chase is judging and I'm not judging.
You don't think he said anything judgmental?
I think he's sharing his standards.
I don't think he's judging you guys personally.
I didn't say she's a bad person.
I said don't follow her example.
Do you know what a correlation means?
Because that's a correlation to her being a bad person.
If what she does, you shouldn't do.
Okay, so context close.
So Jesus told people not to sin.
All of the apostles told people not to sin.
That's just part of what we're called to do as Christians.
That's fine, but I just don't think you should say that.
I have a question.
Actually, sorry, before we move on, for the Christians out there.
Okay, I consider myself Christian, so what do you guys have to say about that?
I did want to, I, well, Chase, do you want to talk first on that?
I have an interesting opinion.
I have an opinion, too.
I want to hear it.
I mean, if you're, I think Andrew Tate said something like this.
If the book says X and you don't do X, do you have a chance to do that?
By that definition, none of them do X.
Okay, wait, wait, wait.
We're all wearing makeup.
Bernard.
That's not, no, that's not a sin.
That's not a sin.
That's a little bit of a sound.
Okay, I grew up an atheist and was a radical atheist, genuinely thought there was like no way I would ever be remotely.
Okay, let's move on.
Let's move on.
This is an interesting, interesting topic of voice.
We're all too stupid to know.
It's just, I gotta get through the soup chats because we're already really behind.
All right, Dayvon Jackson, by the way, I have the B.
I have the BBC here for you, man.
Okay, Davon Jackson, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
The one calling men, P-word for being in legal relationships with adults, telling someone not to be judgmental because she decided to sell her body on the internet.
Can't make this up.
Do you want to respond to Mr. Dayvon Jackson?
Such a good point.
That's such a good point, dude.
Davon's the fucking goat, dude.
I don't understand next.
Okay.
He's saying you guys are giving us shit for being judgmental.
Who's you guys?
I'm not a sex worker.
Am I a sex worker?
That wasn't directed towards me.
You guys were calling us judgmental.
That wasn't directed towards me.
So don't clap me.
It was a comment about how people at the table were calling us judgmental.
People at the table were calling us judgmental for stating our opinions, our opinions about the sex work.
Our opinions about the sex work.
You know, you guys were accusing us of being judgmental.
Meanwhile, you guys fucking accuse dudes who want to date legally adult women.
You guys accuse them of being pedophiles.
So who's fucking judgmental now?
Come on.
Everybody's a rapist.
Everybody's.
I'm judgmental of pedophiles.
Do you hear yourself?
Okay.
Like, D for the moment.
Where are you even?
Listening.
Are you listening?
Moving on.
I'm speaking English.
I wish I didn't understand what you were saying.
I really wish I wasn't.
Moving on.
Moving on.
Just one comment to what she had to say.
Nope.
Moving on.
Alex B, $10 Soup Chat.
Beautiful blue-eyed girl.
Are you single?
There's probably multiple girls here who have blue eyes, so I have no idea.
There's two.
Just two.
Hensley has blue eyes, doesn't show you.
There's three too.
I don't think it's talking.
Wait, say that into the mic, Hensley.
I don't think he's talking about me.
Oh, come on.
Don't say that, Hensley.
I mean, okay.
All right, we got Milo Strack.
Thank you for the Australian $10.
Much appreciated.
The girl on the far left is the only normal girl on here.
She would make more money than all of you, but luckily she has self-respect.
Okay, moving on.
Raggy Rag.
What is normal?
At least it's $2.
I think you're gorgeous.
You're a gorgeous gorgeous girl.
You're a gorgeous girl.
But what?
I'm definitely not normal.
You got that one right?
What?
Okay, Raggy Rag with the $10 super chat.
Oh, that's excellent.
Oh, sorry.
I'm not laughing.
Okay.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Freshest toothbrush.
Thank you for the $10 super chat.
Appreciate the support, man.
Classy ladies on the left.
Come buckets on the bottom.
Cum buckets on the right.
I've been married for fucking five years and in a relationship for 16 years.
What buckets?
Come bucket down.
Okay, so actually, when you get married, that's what you've legally become is a cumbuck.
So I just want you all to know that you're all just seeking out your legal cumbuckage.
Welcome.
What the fuck?
Oh my god, that's a disavow.
What?
You pay $10 to say that?
Okay.
I know.
He got it all.
Michael Trilstein, thank you for the big $1 super chat.
Much appreciated, man.
And by the way, guys, if we can get, we're very close to unlocking our next emoji.
So if we can get, like, I think we need seven more memberships.
If anyone's down to gift or if you just want to join, become a member.
Lowest tier is $5.
Really appreciate the support.
Okay, so, we got through all the soup chats.
What else can we argue about?
I will say, this is a much more interesting conversation tonight than it was on Tuesday.
I just want to point out.
I agree.
It's not all about just dating and everything.
I feel like I'm actually having a dialogue.
I feel like we haven't.
Oh, last question.
Okay, last question.
We got one more here, and this is Hensley's favorite question.
Stiffler, ask everyone to rate their looks on the scale of one to ten.
Go ahead, Hensley.
Pass.
What?
Hensley.
Don't.
Hensley.
Come on.
Just answer the question.
What, Hensley?
What?
Come on.
Am I abusing?
Chat?
Am I abusing?
I think you should allow her to pass.
Okay.
Do you skip every time?
No, she always answers.
I'm changing my answer from the last time.
10.
So what was your answer last time?
8.
Oh, you've upgraded to a 10.
Okay, go ahead.
Yes.
Self-value 10.
We're rating ourselves.
Yeah.
Yeah.
12.
What?
Yes, self-value 100.
This is ridiculous.
This is so ridiculous.
Let them go through.
So, 12.
It's absurd.
Physical appearance.
I'm doing this very physical appearance.
Yeah, you're not able to bag a bitch, yes.
On just physical 10.
I'm just saying.
So 12.
Facts.
Facts.
Physical appearance.
About myself.
Yes.
I think I'm highly attractive.
Yes.
Okay.
Nicolette.
I was going to say 11.
8.
8, 9 on a good day.
8, 9 on a good day.
Chase, what do you rate?
7.58 on a good day.
I give myself a 6, 6.9 on a good day.
69.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, the one over here that's the most taken is just so dirty.
It's mine in the gutter.
Don't you think you were married?
You'd feel this way too.
I'll just say it.
Maybe not the pious ones, but the rest of us, normal people.
What?
I took some meals.
Okay.
Dave on Jackson, thank you for becoming a member man.
Much appreciated.
Really appreciate the support.
I think we just need six more people to become members and we unlock a new emoji, guys.
And we'll give you a shout out during the stream.
So you said you wanted to come in really quick and then we'll go do our video reaction.
Go ahead.
I just want to ask a question earlier because Chase mentioned that he had converted some people to Christianity, some of his friends, and I guess for anybody else that's looking for that, would it mean more to you if you were to find a woman and convert her or to find a Christian woman that's already Christian?
Do you understand what I'm saying?
That's a good question.
That's a good question.
I tried that.
What did you say?
Sorry?
She said great question.
Oh, sorry.
That's what you said.
I thought you were answering.
Sorry.
Yeah, no, that's a really good question.
I tried that in my last relationship, was unsuccessful.
You know, laid out all the evidence for her.
Was like, hey, these are all the reasons I believe she just didn't want it.
She was not interested.
If I met a woman who wasn't a Christian and she was willing to hear it out and then she wanted to come to Jesus, I would have to have a really strong relationship with her, Tatum, in order to want to marry her, just because I see a lot of, there's a lot of prophecy coming true around us right now.
I believe that as believers, we'll have to be really strong in our faith in the days ahead.
And I want, I do want a wife who has a super strong faith and won't be like wishy-washy if shit gets hard.
You know what I mean?
Right.
But in the sense, do you feel like she only converted for you?
No, she didn't convert.
No, no, no.
But I'm saying, like, if somebody converted, would there be like something in the back of your head that would say, oh, maybe she only converted for me?
Yeah.
And like, does she actually believe in this faith?
Does she actually believe in these values and everything?
There would be questions there because, you know, if she really likes me, she's obviously going to want to do whatever she can to make it work.
That would not be enough for me to want to marry her.
Like, I would want her to be really rock solid in her faith without me.
You know what I mean?
So basically, what you're saying is you're pursuing somebody that's already the same religion that you don't have to.
Okay.
Yeah.
Tatum, I want a wife that will literally die for her faith in Christ.
Right.
And that's totally.
You know what I mean?
And that's hard to find in a new believer or somebody who's like, I'm just following Jesus because I'm following you.
So it was a good question.
I've also tried that, like last dated a guy that wasn't.
But I was like, okay, he's a good guy.
I was younger and a little more immature, but I was like, okay, it'll be fine.
Like, he will.
But it really didn't.
It got to a point where I did not like, and I really believe this, with the feminine masculine, I was like, okay, I want to go to church or I want to do these things.
And he was like, oh, yeah, okay.
Like, it wasn't as important to him.
And I just could, some people can get past that.
My brother actually is a lot less, like, he would be like, yeah, that could work.
For me, it just felt so off.
It just did not feel right.
And for me to have to direct that, and then I was like, okay, I am marriage-minded, and I do not want to be the one that wants my kids in church and he doesn't or me leading the household.
I want none of that.
I want the man to lead.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, I completely agree.
My ex-boyfriend, he said he was a Christian, but what I saw from the relationship was that his fruits did not match up and I felt like he was actually pulling me away from God.
So for him to be more on the immature spiritual level, I can't do that.
I want my husband to be strong and to be pulling me towards God.
Or if that, I'd be pulling, like, we'd be going together.
Like, look at it as like a triangle, right?
God's up here.
Closer to the microphone.
God's up here at the triangle.
And if we're on the sides and I'm moving up, it's just going to pull down.
But if we're both moving towards God, that's ultimately what I want.
So, yeah, strong man in faith.
That's what I'm looking for.
Spiritually fit.
Question for both of you guys.
So obviously, you know, the word tells us that men are called to be the spiritual leaders of the households.
Sounds like both of you guys want that.
Are you guys also excited to like submit to a husband who's a strong leader in the household?
Do you want to answer?
You want me to?
You can go first.
Yes.
100% yes.
Because, and this, I do want to say, has changed for me.
In college, I had a Fulbright scholarship.
I was like, I want to be, what can I be?
Do I want to be a lawyer?
Do I want to do whatever?
Like, I want to be the boss girl.
And it changed a lot for me.
My mom was actually, and this is a little off what you're saying with faith, but I think it connects.
My mom was a stay-at-home mom, and I used to think that that was not a real job, and that herping at the home with my dad working wasn't a real job.
And then I realized later on when my dad told me how much his life has been helped, he's a pilot, he does a lot.
He works really, really hard.
And he said he could not do that and support our family without my mom's support and that he gives everything to my mom, the fact that she would do that and get kids to school and things like that.
So I used to think, I really used to have an edge to me about submission, that that was weak.
And now I think it's actually really a good thing because I think that men are supposed to lead and I think women are supposed to submit in a way that benefits both of them.
How is that not reciprocity though?
Why is that submitting?
Because they're both contributing in huge ways.
Why is it submitting versus just calling it reciprocity?
Just out of curiosity.
I would say it's submission because the man, and for me, I'll just say this for what I want.
I want the man to make decisions.
I want him to be the one that puts the effort in with making sure that we are provided for.
And I think that women should not just not do anything.
But I don't think that I don't want to be an equal with my husband.
I don't want us to both be, I think we're equal in our value, but I don't want us to both be equal earners and things like that.
I actually would rather be under him and have him lead.
And that's okay.
Like, that's fine.
I just don't know that I'm not.
And I don't think that's weak.
I also want to say I don't think that's weak at all.
Go ahead.
Yeah, for, I mean, submission.
I look to my family for an example.
And when I see my parents, there were a lot of times where my mom did not submit to my father.
And in those situations, that's where things kind of went a little bit wrong.
So I can see that as an example of where it could create some problems.
So submission, yeah.
But don't look at submission as better finishers.
I just want a definition.
I don't even know what we're talking about.
I'm not pious and religious.
I'm genuinely trying to ask, when you're saying the word submission, what you mean?
Because my version of what that means, I don't think is aligning with what you guys are saying.
So I'm just trying to understand.
I'm not trying to cut off to be rude.
Well, I'm trying to understand.
So I consider it.
So I consider it willful cooperation, but some people have a different sense of it.
Go ahead, Chase.
Yeah, I mean, I would say for me, what I would expect from a wife in terms of submission is her recognizing I have the ultimate, ultimately, I'm responsible for my family being safe, provided for, protected, properly led through this world, all that kind of stuff, right?
Like at the end of the day, if my family, you know, gets fucking killed or wrecked or if they're properly provided for, it all comes down on me, right?
And so I expect my wife to defer to me when it comes to important decisions about where should we live, where should we send the kids to for school, what church should we go to, should I take this job or that job?
You know, if my wife wants me to do one job, but I'm like, no, I think this is the important one, I'll expect my wife to submit to me in that and to trust me.
So you're excited about your ultimate supersedes hers at the end of the day for the well-being of the family?
Yeah, it's essentially trust in leadership, but it's not, that doesn't mean that I'm going to look at my wife like somebody to just boss around.
Like, I want her to be my partner.
You know, I want to come to my wife.
I don't care about what she has to say when you're like, which job, but the ultimate come down to which one you pick would be you, and that's the submittance part.
And also keep in mind that the man, when you are submitting to him, it's not just any man.
This is a man who has earned your respect.
This is a man who has earned that position.
So it's like, these are like literally from the Bible.
That's why I'm like, so just like this.
I'm really asking.
I'm just like us non-Christian people.
It's like a father while you're married, basically.
No, I must say, I must say, listen, guys.
Listen, guys.
Before you take my head off.
I'm not triggered.
I'm not joking.
Before taking my head off, literally just explain it in like, because I've noticed, obviously, this half of the table is the Christian.
This half table is no longer.
No, obviously not.
Basically, what you're describing to people like us when it comes to a man is an extension of a father.
Somebody who you who provides, does everything, and you go to with your, I would go to my dad, for example.
Maybe I want to go here with that and then listen to him in the end because he brings in the money, whatever.
So for us, in Lane's terms, obviously it's much more to it.
But in the end of the way, it's like, yeah, like, maybe not dad, but a parent in a sense.
That's a freaking way.
Like in a non-creepy way.
I totally get what you're saying.
I'm not trying to bring it back to the creepy shit.
No, no, no.
This goes back completely to the Andrew Tate situation, which we already discussed.
Oh, please, I don't want to hear that.
But I think I just want to say, though, as a woman, because I think that I see a lot of women that get really triggered at the word submit, like submission.
I think that's what I was trying to say.
I really didn't understand like from the, I guess, the book side of it.
Well, and here's why.
Because culture tells us that we should not submit.
Everything in culture, in college courses, in literally everything in media and popular culture tells us that as women, not only that we can do exactly the same thing as men, but that we should be better than them and that they should be taken out of society.
I think it's getting really bad, actually.
See, like, and that that's not the problem with that, is that that makes us then look at men as bad and not good, and that we shouldn't submit or we should be the ones that lead.
And I don't think that that's, I actually totally believe I can do, I got a college degree, I work a nine-to-five right now.
I don't want to forever, but I do right now.
I pay my own full rent on my apartment in San Diego.
I do all of that, but I don't think I do what men do.
I don't think, I actually think men are great.
Men actually made the rights that you guys all have.
Men literally wrote the Constitution.
No, I'm serious.
I would have loved privilege to be there.
I just want to put that out there because I think that women hate on men so much.
They hate on everyone.
And there's no right that men have that I don't have.
So, and you guys too.
So all that I'm saying is that, and I just want to say one more thing.
Go ahead.
Submission sounds, it gets a bad rap because it sounds like, oh, we're letting the guy like walk all over us.
I actually don't think that that's it at all.
I think a good way to clarify it is not submit.
It's not like submit to men.
It's like submit to a good man that you think is like deserving of doing that.
So if you're with your partner and your partner happens to be the type of man that's abusing you, you shouldn't be submitting to him.
You should be leaving.
So it's not that the Bible says that.
Yeah, it's not submit to bad men or any men or all men.
It's submit to good men because you have already decided that you trust their leadership.
That's where like I sometimes like, because we didn't, honestly, I think he should have had us all go around since this is basically obviously what the debate is about and say either our political stance or our religion or whatever because it's obviously what this is all going towards.
But like I don't even call myself, you would think from my opinions this whole time that we've been brought up, you would think I'm the biggest liberal snowflake, whatever.
I don't even consider myself a full liberal.
I have, I'm very in between.
I have conservative views and I have liberal views.
Just like if it would help my household, if my household would be the most prime if I stayed home and my husband went to work or wife or whatever, then I would do that because I'm all for my optimizing my family.
And that's why I do understand the conservative standpoint or of like, you know, because it's where we block is because you guys, not you guys, okay.
Well, a lot of conservatives believe men and women are already equal in society and they haven't done anything, but there's certain responsibilities of a man where I believe society does not make us equal.
So why make my life harder by not making it just follow what it already is?
Changing my life isn't going to change the course of America, right?
So if it's easier in these ages for my husband to go work and me stay home with the kids and cook and clean and him bring in the income, I'm not going to go against that because my family going against it isn't going to change the patriarchy of America.
There is no patriarchy.
Brian, please, you just got back.
No, I don't know.
I agree.
There's no patriarchy.
I would say that the biggest submission, in my opinion, is a man dedicating his whole life to provide for his woman and child.
So yeah, I think that's like the ways that like a man submits.
In a Christian idea, like the man is submitting to God.
And so by submitting to God, that means you're submitting to the well-being.
Yeah, whatever you call it, like in a non-Christian way as well.
But just he should be, if you want to call it that.
I think you guys are being too technical because I think that we agree with each other.
You guys just want to put some of that.
I agree too.
Honestly, I think at the end of the day, it's every everyone is at a common understanding that both parties should just want the most well-being for their family.
And so if you come from a perspective where that means a certain lifestyle of like a stay-at-home mom is what's most conducive to the benefits of your family, people are in agreement is what I'm saying.
I don't think, like, I know that the show like pretty much forces people to like want to like get into like debates, but honestly, it's all semantics half the time, I really feel.
So yeah, I disagree.
I think the reason why is just because there's, I don't think it's semantics, just because there's so many women that want, you know, they want to work, they want to earn money, they want 50% of the say in what happens in the household and stuff.
And that's very different from this idea of submission, right?
And I think just to clarify it, to make it like super clear, it's just trusting in your man's leadership.
Totally.
But you're still saying that there's like a two-way conversation happening under the roof.
That's more important than just being like, well, since I'm the man, like I'm just going to go ahead and make a decision without saying.
I feel like that's what people imagine it to be.
But what I want is a really smart wife who I can partner with to build an empire.
I want to consult with her and be like, hey, babe, what do you think about these things?
And then ultimately the final decision, if her and I differ, I expect her to defer to me.
And that's why that's why I said it's kind of like a father or either mother relationship because I would hope my parents, we would have conversations.
But at the end of the day, what they said, go because they're putting a roof over my head.
Exactly.
So that's why I used that example earlier.
You said your mom didn't always submit to your dad when you were growing up and you noticed that?
Yeah, I noticed the same thing when I was growing up.
Especially around financial stuff, my mom would make these like super risky financial moves that could have paid off big.
And my dad would be like, babe, like pump the brakes.
And she'd be like, no.
And she would go through on them.
And we fucking got burned so hard in 2008.
And that was an example when my mom should have submitted to my dad, but she didn't.
See, like, I totally get that because like my household, my dad was my only sole provider since 2007.
My mom hasn't worked and my parents aren't together.
They're only together to raise me.
And she was supposed to leave out of the house in 2018, but hasn't yet.
So I've seen being raised in a household where two people who weren't in love.
And even though my dad was bringing home all the money, paying all the bills, and my mom was still trying to control everything, I understand how that doesn't work and why that dynamic needs to be changed.
But I also understand why it just, you need to have such a good open communication from the beginning because it was, regardless, it was two people who shouldn't have had a child together, had a child, and they wasted their lives trying to raise me.
And that's why I know like with the whole waiting tarriage, I'm sure they don't feel like it's a marriage.
I know, it was a waste, whatever, but like, it's hard to look at like my, like, I, honestly, and I know I hate to say this, I feel like you would just love to hear this, but like growing up, I always like felt bad for my dad.
I was like, I feel like my dad just gave away his whole life to raise me because my mom has basically ruined his life since I was born, and they're not together.
I'm sure he doesn't regret it.
I know he doesn't.
We've had the conversation before, but like that's why I'm just so strong about my opinions of like making sure like that's why I personally don't see myself having sex with some waiting till marriage because I feel like that could be such a big deal breaker and people think marriage is like the end-all be-all, but like even though my parents have never been married, just them having one child together changed the direction of the last 20, you know, five plus years of their lives.
That's very different.
So that's why they have that like, I don't know, like it's just hard for me to be like, I want to get involved with somebody without knowing everything.
I think it's a really important thing to know because when you say till death, do us part, that's a big agreement.
Hopefully.
Because they're technically legal partners because they've lived together for so long.
Can I share with you part of the reason why I refuse to have sex with a woman before I get married to her is because, so I work at a gym at a gym near here and I've met like four.
No, G-BAC.
Same.
Nice.
I thought you looked familiar.
Really?
Yeah, I think I've seen you before.
Anyways, from what direction?
Okay, keep going.
Keep going.
Keep going.
Anyways, I'm here to derail the conversation.
Keep going.
Anyways, I've met like four dudes at our gym who like each of them got a divorce.
And I asked them, like, okay, so where did it go wrong?
They each had the same answer.
Once they got in their 40s, you know, the fizzle, the physical spark, it just kind of diminished.
And they realized there wasn't much there in the relationship.
And what I realized from listening to each of these dudes is I think a lot of people get married to people that, you know, they're having sex with.
They're releasing all those hormones.
They think that they're in love.
Because when you're having, hold on, hold your thoughts.
I know.
I'm just saying because I'm making a, I want him to know so he's going to move on.
So go ahead.
When two people are having sex, releasing all those hormones and stuff, it's real easy to fall in love with somebody.
And it's super easy.
But as the decades go on and you lose that physical attraction, things change.
A lot of people get divorced.
So I was just going to say, but it also could be say the same for the opposite.
Because I grew up, so I grew up LDS.
So I grew up Mormon.
And a lot of that culture, a lot of that religion is based around getting married young and having a family basically right away.
Lots of children.
Lots of children.
As many as possible.
Right.
So a majority of people, though, that I went to high school with did get married right out of high school.
And majority of them are already divorced because they only got married because that's what they were told to do.
They were told to get married.
They were told to have a family.
You said a majority of them are divorced?
Yeah.
Fuck.
I mean, a majority of them left the church.
Wow.
Now, I know that LDS and Christianity are two.
I mean, they're kind of off of the same branch, but they're different in a sense.
But what I'm just saying is it could be the same.
It could be said the same for the opposite, basically.
Can I say my point for your response?
Because it's like almost the same.
That's exactly what I wanted to bring up earlier, too.
And this is for all of you guys over here.
Do you guys feel like then, like, in your community, since you're waiting for marriage to have sex and all those things, I feel like it's Christians or the Mormons, whatever that I see all getting married at 18 to like 20 or whatever.
And it's like, it's hard to look at an outsider person, like an outsider, and just be like, I feel like they're only getting married so they could fuck each other.
That happens a lot.
Like, I feel like I really know you're all super confident.
That's what I'm saying.
I feel like as Christians, you can also tell when people I've seen, I see.
So, you see it, I read it.
Yeah, there was like a Mormon guy.
Okay, I probably shouldn't say this.
You guys, you know, like holidays.
What?
What's up?
Okay, no, I was just going to say, a guy that I know that's Mormon got married really young.
For me, it's like, you are immature.
Like, there are things that I see that are wrong with that.
Right.
Totally.
And, like, I do think that there is some of that.
And, and here's, I just want to say a point on that.
I'm not waiting to have sex until I'm married because God said, okay, because God says, or because just because the Bible says it, okay?
Like, take that off the table.
I, I'm not a girl.
Sometimes I watch, I watch church online.
I'm not like this perfect in the like no sin, you know, I don't know.
I'm cool.
Like, I'm, I'm cool, okay?
Cool.
Like, here's what I want to say.
Here's what I want to say.
Like, I know, like, what I'm saying is that the reason I'm doing that is actually more about the self-respect that I have for myself and my future husband than anything else.
I totally agree.
It's not about the Ten Commandments.
It's not like, yes, I do want to honor God.
I mean, my main thing is I do want to honor God, but the reason for that is because I have seen the other side.
And I actually think that God's design for me and my body and my future husband and giving that to him is going to be a blessing.
And I actually, I see that as a joy.
I don't see it as like, oh my gosh, this is so annoying.
Like, I have to follow these rules.
And oh my gosh, if I break them, God's going to keep me out of heaven.
I don't think about it like that.
And I used to.
I did used to when I grew up Baptist.
And then when I became a non-denominational Christian and I switched, my mindset switched a lot to, oh, God is setting these rules up not to take away my fun, but to protect me and so that I have the most joy in my life.
And so that I can feel good.
And honestly, I'm so glad I don't have regrets and I'm really happy with my decision.
So well said.
No, very well said.
Very, very well said.
But it's actually funny that you brought that up, that you felt like it was kind of forced onto you, basically, this whole lifestyle.
Is that kind of what you're continuing to do?
I do have to move on from this, guys, because we got to get caught up on some super chats here.
Dave On Jackson, just another thank you for becoming a member, man.
Much appreciated.
Crazy eyed, crazy-eyed Hensley.
Thank you for the Canadian.
Was this you on your cell phone while you were?
Did the Prosact kick in, or what's going on, Hensley?
I haven't been on my cell phone.
No, no, I'm kidding.
He put his picture on it.
He's just teasing you.
Oh, it's a bit of a damn thing.
Can someone jumpstart me, please?
I'm down to my last strain, so what's going on, Hensley?
You haven't spoken much.
What's going through your head right now?
I just didn't come here for a religious debate.
It's been great sitting in church.
I appreciate it, but not really what I signed up for.
All of this has been happening in the context of dating, relationships.
Still don't have anything to say about it?
No, sir.
Just going to write it off as religious talk.
Okay, moving on.
We got Emma Wema with the $10 Super Chat.
The 3FOs don't realize that their decisions completely take you out of running of being a wife of a quality man in the future.
Then blame all men for your bad decisions.
Allergic to accountability.
That is just so funny to me because I get it.
Like everyone obviously has their different things they want from a woman or whatever.
I have men literally paying for my bathwater and you think I can't find a husband.
I have people begging to be my husband.
That's not a problem.
Yeah, let's have some bathwater.
Tell somebody of these dudes.
How many of these dudes that so badly want to make you their wife would you actually consider as a husband?
There has been a few.
Like my ex, obviously, like, to be honest, like, not even to be conceited or anything.
Closer to me.
Every single one of my exes I've had, like, they're deeply in love and still years later trying to be with me.
Like, that's why, that's why none of these comments or anything hurt me.
Because, like, some person might hate all my tattoos and think it's the ugliest thing I ever did into my life, while the next person thinks it's the best-looking thing they've ever seen.
That's why I've noticed, I've learned that everyone has their different preferences and types.
And it's like, okay, us 304s versus the Christians, whatever.
I don't know how we're all 304s over here.
I'm a fucking bartender, but sure.
Can you?
I'm asking for chat.
Like, can you hook it up some bath water or what?
Yeah, but it's going to be $75 per bottle.
Do you actually legitimately sell your battle?
I haven't in a while.
I've been on for the past year.
When's the bathwater coming?
Whoa, it's actually a very good pick.
Like, right now, you know what I was supposed to do before I got you?
I've sold.
I've sold.
Have you sold?
Paul's what you've got.
The craziest thing I've sold was cummy gummies.
What is that?
What is that?
Do we want to know?
I'm not sure.
I don't know.
I don't think you want to know.
Maybe you should.
What is that?
I have to know.
This panel seems pretty PG.
Yeah.
Do it.
I'm not talking about that.
I collect the pops.
I'll tell you later.
You have our permission to.
I have to find out.
I'm not PG.
If she's the one to, I'll tell you.
Like, well, I don't know what the gummies are, but like, I like.
I just like masturbate over some gummies.
It's not a big one.
Oh, and then you let it go.
It's way more tales.
And then you send it to them and they eat it.
Oh, or they get whatever with it.
I thought it was like the anal pops.
But that's different.
I mean, if they want to.
You know what?
Y'all sell your.
Like, you know what I did before I got here?
Ooh.
You know what I did right before I got here?
Tell us.
I was late to hear.
You made some bathwater?
No.
I don't know.
Do you have only fans?
No, I don't.
Oh.
No.
How are you selling?
Are you legit selling bathwater?
What?
There was a site called, it was, well, they've taken it down many times, but it was like secret-tented panties.
Like, I've never done sex work, like my body or anything like that, but I've sold items before.
Like used panties and shit.
Yeah.
That makes you a sex worker.
So I got technically like I'm a sex worker, but like Nicolette makes you a sex worker.
The only reason why I'm going off to it.
Sorry.
The only reason why I don't count it is those men who I sold that to, they don't even know what my face looks like.
They have no idea who I am.
Like I'm just an image online to them.
And also it was years ago.
But yeah, right before you get to that, bro, this podcast has been so extreme.
You want to know what I'm saying?
One second we're talking about Christian marriage.
The next it's right before I got here.
I made the easiest hundred dollars of my life.
This kid this kid in IV, right?
I matched with this dude on Hinge, and he's like, my roommate just offered to pay you $100 so you could kick him in the balls.
Before I got here, I kicked this little kid in the balls for $100.
Wait, was that awful?
That's what you did.
Me and my friend got offered that.
Is he legit?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he's legit.
He's legit.
He's legit, bro.
He's legit.
He gave me $100 for three kicks.
He was going to get a lot more than that.
Was he wearing a cup?
No.
Heinous.
Did he make any faces or did he just take it like a man?
I got something from his teeth.
The termite rock.
I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do that.
I was like, $100?
I don't have to do anything.
I don't do anything.
I made $100 transcribing a meeting.
This sounds way more interesting.
Quickest $100 of your entire life.
To do nothing?
Besides a nice little plexor flexion?
Did you feel bad?
Like, did he wince?
No, I felt bad because he was like, more, more, man.
Actually, really quick.
So, really quick on this topic, what is the most either extravagant date a guy has ever taken you on, or has a guy ever given you, like a paid you a lot of money to do something?
We'll go around the table on this, Hensley.
That is like two different questions.
I was going to say that's two totally.
Okay, what's because, okay, you work at the club.
Maybe you've had offers from guys, sugar daddies, whatever.
Some of you maybe haven't had sugar daddies, but what is the most amount of money a guy has spent on you for something?
Like in the club?
Outside of the club.
Hensley.
Come on.
I don't know.
Come on.
Come on, Hensley.
I don't know.
Listen, you asked us to stop talking about religion.
I'm asking if a guy asked you to kick him in the nuts.
Okay.
We've moved on from the religious.
A lot of people have been asked that.
Have been asked what?
Oh, so that's just another Tuesday for you.
Yeah.
I never trust the authors, though.
I'm kind of jealous.
Okay.
Do you ever get dudes who ask you to step on their genitals?
Yeah.
Jesus.
Really?
Yeah.
Is it a microphone?
It's so narrow.
How down bad do you have to be to ask a woman to do that?
Have you ever done it?
No.
Would they ask you to step on their nuts?
Yikes.
Okay, what about you?
6,000.
For what?
It was a, this sounds so.
Hold on, Eric.
I had the chats just while she said this.
So this is.
Actually, this is good because it shows a part of my thing.
But basically, it was a long time customer or whatever.
And it was a care package of different used underwear, shoes, and socks.
But it was basically what he wanted in specific was the youngest I could find.
So like my gym shoes from sixth grade or okay, okay, so you're gonna like gall like guys who are like 50 attracted 20 guys just being attracted to 20 years is being pedophiles, but would you not just say you're like engaging and pedophiles?
Yeah, there's still gonna be he's gonna ask the fantasy I can make six thousand dollars so then just go out.
Do not shame.
I just can't.
Don't shame pedophiles.
No, I'll continue to shame.
No, don't shame guys for being attracted to 21 year olds, like no matter their age and engage in like pedophilic fantasies, bro.
You can't tell me like please stop a criticism.
Did you stop anything else?
Did you give him this stuff?
Yeah, I said I mailed him.
You fucking indulged his pedophilic fantasies and then you're not.
You not understand that.
You supported the industry.
You supported it.
I expected if you want to shame 50 year olds for being a 20 year old, but don't sell your six.
Okay, so you let me talk?
You let me talk?
You let me talk?
So you're telling me that guy wouldn't have just gone from girl to girl to girl asking when I could have made the $6,000?
He's going to just make it from another fucking bitch.
Why can't I make the $6,000?
I needed the fucking money.
Sorry, I was broke and poor and want fucking $6,000.
You can, but you're criticizing.
Oh, there's all these fucking menu.
I'm criticizing men for being pedophiles.
You're criticizing all these men out here.
Did you forget he wanted my shoes from sixth grade?
Yeah.
I heard that.
Yeah, so why are you giving it to him?
What the fuck?
You supported me?
You have no room to criticize this.
You supported it.
You didn't do it from anybody else.
You perpetuated this.
You fed into it.
So you know what you sound like right now?
You sound like the people who go out and they're like- Someone who just caught you on your bullshit.
Can I finish?
Can you please let me finish?
Someone who just caught you in the middle.
Can you let me finish?
Can you let me finish?
You guys selling the people who go out to eat and they're like, oh, I'm not going to tip because I don't believe in tipping culture and how people need to get paid for their wages.
So I'm not going to tip.
It's ridiculous.
I'm going to make the fucking money.
So if somebody wants to be a pedophile on my diet, then fucking so fucking be it.
I'm going to make $6,000.
So hopefully he doesn't grab some random bitch off the street.
Like, maybe.
My shoes.
Is him going to switch to a random person?
Chat, let us know what you think about this right now.
Let us know what you think.
This is ridiculous.
So there is something called age play.
What?
That's different.
That is true.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to have to just say that.
I would not send my actual like underage underwear.
That's like a little like that's like crossing the line to me But there's something as age play, which is different.
It's two consenting adults.
Role playing.
That is different than sending your actual like underage underwear that's.
They were underage shoes, to clarify.
But yes.
Yeah.
You could have told him, no, this is wrong.
I'm not going to do it.
If somebody was like, if you can send me your old beat-up Nikes in the back of your closet for $1,500, you're going to say no.
You're saying your morality has a price.
That's what you're telling me.
It's nothing but being moral.
It's no fucking suspicion.
You said pedophilia is wrong.
You said it's wrong that men are attracted to that.
Hold on, let me know.
But once they're willing to pay money, you're down.
In my morality complex.
You're down to compromise.
In my morality complex, it would be wrong of me if maybe if I had that request from somebody and I went and I stole my little cousin's shoes or my little sister's shoes or something.
They were my own belongings.
If I want to sell my own belongings, it's just like people like Bella Dafine or whatever her fucking name is, those other ones who take advantage of the men who are weirdos out there, go her.
She's taking advantage of all the guys who are so fucking weird in this world that she's getting paid for.
Hold on, I want to respond to her.
Her, me or her stopping doing what we're doing isn't going to make the pedophiles go away.
It's just going to make them go on maybe an unsuspecting child or somebody else.
At least maybe now since I gave him my shoes, he's going to have to go fucking harassing.
You're doing dog broker out there.
You are literally.
I swear to God.
I can't come back to my fucking job.
Yeah, come back on.
Don't go to backstage.
So hold on, Because you have been coming for me all fucking night and saying snarky ass.
Because you're fucking hypocritical, Kiko.
You're not hurting me.
I'm not even talking to you.
She's hypocritical.
I'm defending her because you've attacked her twice tonight.
I've attacked her twice.
I haven't said shit to her.
I've literally complimented her.
You said that she was the least mature, most young seeming person in the room.
She didn't say.
She didn't say she's not her.
I said she looked the youngest.
I said because she looks nice.
Yes.
So please, thank you.
Because don't start saying that shit.
I've only complimented her, but she's trying to call me out two, three times now, more than even these two over here.
I've literally not said shit to her, but she keeps it.
Just for the sake of debate, dude, nothing.
I think you are like one of the most beautiful people I've ever seen.
I have like tons of respect for you.
I'm just saying this out of debate for the podcast.
This is not personal.
It's the way you say certain things.
I can tell when people are saying things out of debate for the podcast, but it's the way you approach certain things.
I'm just letting you know because I've been holding my tongue this whole fucking time.
Okay, well, I guess I can't go to backstage anymore, guys.
Just on a Saturday night.
No, you can go to backstage.
It's not on a Saturday night between.
Good thing I don't know.
Awesome.
Oh, you don't go to backstage.
I have a question.
I have a question.
Earlier tonight, you were making legitimate grievances that there's a lot of guys out there.
P-word.
Use the P, just say P-word.
If you're gonna.
You're making legitimate grievances, Kiko.
Everybody take a breath.
I'm chilling.
You're good.
I want to talk about how much this technique is.
You're making legitimate grievances that there's a lot of guys out there who are preying on underage women.
Okay.
That's a fact.
Yes.
You don't think that by giving in to the perverted desires of a guy like this, you're feeding the industry?
No, if anything, I feel like I'm getting them away from attacking and preying on unsuspecting younger children.
At least now they can get, because usually, honestly, because I swear to God, like not on anything, like literally straight up.
When I was back, I don't really do this anymore, but when I was back into that, I only had really regulars, and I would discuss, have conversations with these regulars a lot.
And some of them would open up to me about things I wish I wouldn't hear.
And a lot of them were on these sites and doing these things because their urges were so strong that they rather do it this way than actually like doing something illegal or very wrong, if you know what I'm trying to say, right?
It's weird.
Like, if you know what I'm trying to say, like, no, let me ask you, I got you, girl.
Yeah.
Girls.
Here's, let me ask you.
No, I don't want to talk about this shit.
It's fucking awesome.
No, I have a different question.
No, let me ask it in a different way than what Chase asked really quick because I just want to know something.
So instead of giving or instead of fulfilling this man's mind, this shit's fucking weird, dude.
No, Chase, listen to this question.
Tell me what you think.
Okay.
This one's for you.
Okay.
Why didn't you take the opportunity to potentially turn him into the cops?
Because you could have called the cops.
Okay, okay.
I totally get that.
No, no, no, no.
Hang on, but you're saying that you did it because you think.
Yes.
Not Mike can do it to somebody else, but if you would have turned it into the cops, that would have put it.
This is a great point.
This is a great point.
And I swear, I feel like everyone thinks I'm fucking bullshitting it, but I swear to God, I'm not.
But for a few months, I was actually a sting operation.
Like, I was a part of a sting operation.
I swear to God.
I swear to God.
I used to be used.
No, this isn't, dude.
No, I swear I'm not talking about it.
I feel like if you just live in San Francisco, you have more opportunities.
I don't know.
But I used to be used as a girl who would be used in sting operations.
I would pretend to be underage.
It's so hard.
It is so hard to get those men.
If I would go to the police and be like, oh, this man wants to buy my shoes.
They can't do anything about that.
If I would say, like, oh, this man wants to buy my shoes from a sixth grade, they can't do anything about that.
Unless there's proof of them actually touching or harassing an underage child, absolutely nothing will be done.
So I'd rather give in to their urges as an adult woman who could do that rather than them going and doing that to an actual stinghouse.
In your career, is this?
Did you sting anyone?
So, yes, there was a few, but the thing is, they're smarter than you seem.
Like, it's really hard.
Smarter than I seen?
No, no, you're smarter than you seem.
Sometimes you'll see it online.
I feel like it's so easy just to get them because there are some idiots out there who are just like, you know, you can grow them, but most of the time they have either mental disability or something.
But those men, it's so hard to act like a child that most of the time they catch wind or we'll do the stakeout and they'll figure it out because I wouldn't have to be present.
I would never be present at the actual like stakeout.
Like I would just be talking to them, messaging them on it.
We used to be kick a lot most of the time.
There used to be apps that would have chat rooms that we could go into.
And I would say like we would talk for like a week or so and then we would be meeting up, but I would never be at the meetup location.
And I most of the time would not know what would happen from that point forward.
Because it's like there's like, if they find out that I'm actually of age, they could play it on themselves to be like, well, she actually is, you know, 19 years old.
So I was talking to a 19-year-old, but like, I said I was 12.
Like, I was saying I was 12.
So that's like the age you're believing.
But if I show up, then they're going to be like, no, no, she should see.
So you didn't sting anyone.
Okay, we're moving on.
We're moving on from this.
Okay, so you made $6,000 and then yourself.
I'm a sixth person.
Okay, what about you?
Anything?
Yeah, really unconventional, but like $11,000 selling my eggs to gay daddies.
Okay.
I mean, that's not really quite what I had in mind for the question.
I'm sorry, Brian.
Well, you just got to be more specific then.
Well, it's more so like, I mean, that was probably a service provided through like a legitimate.
Yes, but you didn't say that it had to just be a random man deal.
Yeah.
Okay, Yes, we were a service.
It was a lot of people.
Wanting feet pics or some shit.
No, nothing.
Okay.
What about you?
I honestly have not been paid or done anything crazy.
Nicolette?
I've been paid $2,000 to take off work and just hang out with somebody.
Wow.
Can you scoot your chair just a little closer?
Is there space for your legs or is it just too tight?
No, my thick thighs are covering it.
Okay.
Just so we can get you a little closer to Mike.
Was the question how much a guy has spent on a date?
Yeah, is that sort of?
Well, sort of, but it's more so like your side, that's the question.
I've never thought about, oh, how much has this guy spent on me on a date?
Has a guy offered to fly you out?
Has he ever offered you money for anything weird?
No.
No.
I haven't had that.
I've just had the like.
Okay, go ahead.
I got one.
Yeah, I forgot.
Yeah, one of my friends, when I was still at UCLA, got invited to go with some creepy older guy that wanted to fly her out to Vegas, and she's like, red flags, red flags, no.
And she's like, well, maybe if I can bring a friend.
And then I was the friend.
So then we both got flown out to Vegas and it was like stupid.
It was like a Sunday night in Vegas on a Sunday, just boring, dude.
Nothing happening.
But she was trying to avoid being in the room with him because like, you know, flew her to Vegas, man.
So yeah, it was, it was, we, we met some guy that taught us how to get the cheapest drink on the strip.
And he was like, you just kind of pretend to play the poker games and they'll just come around and they'll just, yeah, just keep pushing the button.
So you weren't paid anything, but you got a free flight.
Is that correct?
I didn't fucking pay for my flight or my hotel room or any of the food that we ate.
So you got a comped trip, basically.
Yeah, but it was really her.
I was just the tag along.
Wait, and then just going back to you.
What's the next highest that you were paid for something?
Under $6,000.
Yeah, just like the next highest you were paid.
$5,000.
Similar thing.
No, that was just all underwear.
Just underwear.
$5,000.
Yes.
Bro, this blows my mind as a dude because there's not a market for this for like, how old were you?
Maybe 19, 20 or something?
I was 19.
Yeah, there's not a market for like older women to get this shit from young dudes.
Like, y'all paying your college tuition with some of this shit.
There is a market, though, for older men to get this content from younger men.
Sure, but it's probably a much smaller one.
I think that's a bigger thing.
Actually, it's huge.
No, there's a lot of more successful guys that I know.
That's why, like, personally, it's gay for pay.
Like, most of those men that you see, like, they are.
Yo, let's move on.
They're streaming.
Let me tell you guys.
Oh, what about you over here?
Tara?
Tara.
How much has been spent?
Tara.
Has a guy ever offered you money for anything weird?
No.
Okay, Tara, Tara?
Not for anything weird, no.
What's the most a guy?
Have you been in the middle of the day?
Just like expensive dates or I guess like really expensive jewelry.
Okay.
One guy, wait, I want to say the one thing, the best gift a guy's ever brought me.
He came from LA down to where I live in San Diego.
And he was actually really, we didn't work out, but he got me.
He felt bad that I lived alone and was not, like, didn't have family or anybody.
He brought me like a Swedish taser gun to protect so that I can protect myself.
You can legally have them in California so that I can defend my household because he felt bad as well.
It was so great.
What did you do?
And a holster and a flashlight for when I go on my walks and all this stuff.
It was really base.
And a picnic on the beach in the back of his land cruiser that opened up with safari doors.
It was like the best stuff.
That's so romantic.
Yeah, it was great.
Wait, why did you guys work out?
He sounds amazing.
Here's an AR-15.
That's what I was saying.
But no, it's like a, it's like pepper spray, but you can, it's like a gun.
Was it like a no, it's like black with a brown holster.
He let me pick.
It was great.
Oh, it's like he didn't work out because he was hung up on his ex.
So did he mention her on the first date?
He did, and that's how I knew.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the prettiest bouquet of flowers, like a $100 bouquet of flowers, prettiest one I'd ever seen.
How long had it been since he had broken up from his last?
It had been like five or six months, but they had lived together for a while.
And I think he was really, like, he was not good at that.
And I was like, I don't want to be with a guy that's not.
You guys want to hear the most a girl spent on me?
Yeah.
All right, check it.
Check this shit.
It's like $10.
One time, a girl bought me a burrito.
$7.99.
What's up?
No Christmas gifts, nothing special for your birthday, like just a burrito.
That's a burrito.
What?
That sounds like a bad thing.
You're into the submissive type then, I guess.
I'm just saying.
You're over here getting $5,000 for your panties and a chick bought me a burrito once.
Oh, it's crazy.
I never said it.
Trust me, I spoil my partners.
That's very different.
Yeah.
I love gift giving.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What did you, what did you buy them?
Well, it depends.
Like, depends on what it was.
What did you get them?
As long as it wasn't worth saying.
When did you get them?
What did you do?
Being goofy.
No, yeah.
I used to love gift giving.
It was a very big part of my love language.
I like to receive gifts, but I also love to give gifts.
Okay.
Word.
Word.
All right, let's get through these super chats.
Guys, I'm sorry, we got a ton, so I'm going to get caught up real quick.
We got, did we do this one?
Yep, we did that one.
Okay, here's the official rating because y'all rated, a lot of y'all rated yourself tens.
Freshest toothbrush, $10.
Thank you, man.
Official rating for tonight from Terror on Down, 9828255.
Okay.
Rock and roll.
So you're Christian.
What the?
Don't you think it's a bit of hubris, though, to say that you're a 10?
I think these girls are all beautiful on the panel.
So I saw a thing, a video.
Exactly.
And it's like, so last time I ranked myself an eight, right?
We're talking about looks only, not personality-wise, whatever.
Looks are completely subjective, right?
So somebody could find you the most drop-down, drop-dead, gorgeous man on the earth, while somebody else could not find you attractive at all.
What justice am I doing myself if I'm already ranking myself lower?
I'm the only one I have.
Why am I not saying I'm a 10?
Personality-wise, I know maybe I'm lacking a point.
Maybe I have a couple things to make up.
I don't think it's personality-wise, I know mentally I'm not the best person I could be.
So I know I could be a better version of myself right now, like thought mentality-wise.
That's why I know I could be like maybe a nine overall and then raise up to a 10 once I get my mental right.
But looks-wise, I'm never a day again in my life going to damper on my looks or say I'm less than worthy than for somebody else.
Like we, everyone should say they're a 10.
You are a 10.
You're the only one you're carrying.
You're the only person you get.
What do you think?
You said your point rating could increase if you get the mental side right or whatever.
What does that look like?
Yeah, I was like, right now, I was in between places for a little bit.
Like, I have struggle right now.
Like, I was going through trauma response therapy for a long time, and I stopped my trauma response therapy and my medication, and I probably should be back on it.
But I decided for personal reasons not to.
So, I feel like until I finish with that or finish my therapy, that I won't be a full 10 overall mentality, personality.
What's the medication?
I was on Zoloft, I was on Welbutrin, I was on, what's the P one?
Prozac, and there's a T one.
It's that make me fall asleep.
Testosterone?
No.
I got it.
It's like right there.
I can think of it.
Oh, yeah, we got the pharmaceutical sales rep over here.
Oh, Triza Down.
Triza Down.
Troza Down.
Wow, that's a cocktail.
I was on like 600 plus milligrams a day.
Holy shit.
So until I get that figured out, probably not a full 10.
That's why I'm single.
Are you asking them what their personality is?
I was asking them what their drug prescriptions are.
It all makes sense.
Yeah, so what's everybody on?
Mr. Cocktail, vitamins and pots.
We had a shame.
I have no shame.
It's like the way I'm fucking breathing.
If it wasn't for that context, I would have been dead a long time ago.
Well, thank goodness you're not.
Okay, we got Freshest Toothbrush saying Grace is at 10.
Oh, great.
There you go.
Thank you for the W for Grace.
We got Dayvon Jackson with the $10 soup chat.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Submission is an extremely difficult choice to make.
Choosing the right man to submit to is even more difficult.
Nothing weak about it.
Thank you, Dayvon.
We got Milos.
Hold on.
Okay, just a reminder, guys, $10 and up.
Everyday Edgar with the $10 soup chat.
Appreciate it, man.
Thank you.
Someone tell the 40-year-old chick with tattoos that rolling your eyes and making faces isn't considered a counter-argument.
I'm 34.
She's 34 every day.
But at least I have people invite me on a podcast, so maybe you can stop paying $10 so that they'll pay attention to you sometime every day, Edgar.
I took some meals.
Okay.
We got, let's see, we got Richard Joy.
Thank you for the Canadian $10.
How's it going in Quebec or wherever you're from?
Quebec?
Richard Joy, let us know.
Quebec, Toronto, Vancouver.
Okay, question for the girls.
Have any of you left the United States of America to a foreign country?
If so, where?
Also, did you notice how the culture is much better?
Yeah.
I mean, I go to skip.
Has anybody not been out of the country?
Main.
Really?
What about Hawaii?
I have a toy.
Okay, but just not out of the continental US.
Well, no, that would be out of the continental U.S. She's been to Hawaii.
Did you raise your hand?
Yeah.
So that means you two and you three have been out of the country.
I was born in Denmark.
Contiguous?
I've been within the 50 states.
That's Oldborg.
How long do you live there?
On the West Coast?
On the East, Southern East part.
Gotcha.
Can you speak Icelandic for the chat?
I'm Sæll, my name is Ásdís, I'm Bandarí, and I don't speak Spanish because I have to learn a lot.
Speak some Danish now.
Talk dirty Daniel.
No, I don't know that much.
It's like, it's very like, super good.
I don't know.
It's not a pretty language.
The Danes sound like Swedes that are choking on something.
Yeah.
They have something in their throat that they're gargling.
Say it like that.
Have any of you been to Dubai?
No.
Never to the Middle East.
That's for prostitution.
That's good.
I was about to say that sounds like a code for something.
That for prostitution.
Nobody say yes.
Natalie Dunn.
Nicolette, have you had offers for Dubai?
No.
Because we've heard some not about you, just we've heard stories of so have I, but no, I have not.
Okay.
Not yet, at least.
All right.
Would you be willing to go?
10K.
Dubai.
100K.
For what?
10 days?
This Sultan is like, yo, come out here for 50K.
We've got a bunch of dudes that are going to give you a golden shower.
Would you be doing it?
What?
No.
$250K, golden shower.
It has to be at least a lot of people.
No, I'd do a golden shower for $500K.
Okay.
In Dubai.
Classy lady.
All right.
You asked.
How much would you do a golden shower for?
Zero dollars.
I would never do it.
You do it for free.
I do it for free.
Yeah.
No, I'd never do it.
There you go.
Okay, we got Raggy Rag.
Thank you for the $10 soup chat.
G's in the chat for Grace.
She's a queen.
I would fold the laundry and shop at Hobby Lobby with her every weekend.
Grace is so popular.
Okay, guys.
G's in the chat for Grace, I guess.
Raggy Rag, thank you for the support, man.
Appreciate it.
We got Metal Bones here.
Thank you for becoming a member, guys.
Really appreciate it.
Guys, we're like five members away from unlocking our next emoji, so please consider joining us today.
Boys, cross the line.
Let's do it this stream.
That's hilarious.
We got El Bogui with the big $20 soup chat.
Really appreciate the support, man.
Thank you.
Shout out to the two women on the left.
They seem to have the best balance of emotion/slash logic towards men.
The chick with the tattoo neck is cute, but she talks too much.
Can I say something about this is to talk too much?
I'll just finish reading it.
Imagine coming home to her voice after a stressful day.
Okay, go ahead, respond.
My last two relationships ended because I wouldn't talk to them enough.
Really?
Crazy.
Yeah.
Wait, were you?
This isn't meant to be disrespectful.
Were you on medications at the time?
I was.
Wow.
Chase?
That might have been the most intelligent thing we said all night.
You know what?
That is so true.
Because I am freshly off.
Pretty fresh.
Oh, do we have a Kanye situation going on?
And I used to not speak.
Like, I was known as the, like, her, you know?
I would have been like her this whole time.
That's interesting.
You know what, though?
I get the impression, though.
I get the impression, though, that you're being argumentative because obviously you've been invited on the podcast.
We're here having a debate.
And I suspect your interactions one-on-one with a partner would probably look different than how you've been communicating with us.
Yeah, I just make sure I don't date people who think the way that some people do.
Chase.
No, but really, like, even if it's like with his opinions, like, if I would have been hearing this, like, I feel like you guys just like really like targeted some of the things that I'm most passionate and vocal about just from my career and what I'm involved into.
So I would feel like it would be an injustice to sit here with my mouth shut.
Okay.
You feel like I targeted your career?
No, no, but I was saying when we had that talk earlier, with the career I'm in, I firsthand see a lot of those things happening that other people wouldn't see.
So that's why, obviously, it might make me biased in a way to where I think the percentages are much higher than they are.
But then there's people who don't see it at all, so they think the percentages are much lower than they are.
So, and then we just would kind of come into that middle ground in between.
Okay.
We got Red Misfit here with the $10 Soup Chat.
Chase, love you, man.
Always great to see you on.
You compliment Brian well as a co-host.
Also, can we get a she belongs to the streets sound effect for Hensley?
Hold on, Lemi.
She belongs to the streets.
You know what's funny, guys?
Actually, me and Hensley met like two years ago, two or three years ago, I think.
And the one thing she said to me is, came out of her mouth.
Pause.
She said, she belongs to the streets.
Do you remember that?
She told me.
No way.
She said, I belong to the streets.
And I was like, I'll get you on the podcast one day.
Okay.
I just want to say to you, yo, thanks.
Shout out to Red Misfit, but also, Hensley, you get roasted a lot, and I appreciate and salute how you never let it get under your skin.
That's a gangster quality.
Appreciate it.
Yeah.
You have a good sense of humor about it.
What's up?
You're a little more quiet tonight than usual.
Is it because of the religious stuff?
Do you want to talk about what?
No.
Okay.
Not necessarily.
All right.
We want to hear it, like the chat wants to hear your, the based Hensley takes.
Uh, I don't know.
I think it's just the other girls have really taken charge on this one, and I've let them.
I've debated with Chase before.
I know what his attack points are.
I've answered these questions before.
I know exactly what you're going to respond to mine.
Maybe I have been on the podcast a little too much at this point because the questions aren't changing.
This is true.
You know what I mean?
Like, I could see someone digging a tunnel, and as much as I'm like on their side and with them, I can see exactly what you're going to attack.
And I'm like, I'm not going to dig myself into that hole again.
So.
I like how you use the word attack.
Like, this is like war or something.
I mean, I definitely like to think argumentation and debate is not war, but I think there have definitely been parts of this debate where it has gone like war.
Both voices have gone red or raised.
Both cheeks have gone red.
You know, it's gotten very.
I'm just sunburned.
Okay.
Okay.
I'm kidding.
You're nervous.
Yeah.
And that's totally fine, but I don't think this is necessarily the time people need to hear my voice again.
They've heard it.
They've heard my opinion, you know?
Okay.
So you're kind of opening it up for the other panelists, too.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I think like you said in that one shot that you was sent, you know, a lot of times I answer and then we get a line of girls going, yeah, me too.
Yeah, me too.
That's why I didn't want to sit there.
Hensley B. Bean said, Hensley is a boss.
Hensley, get him.
She wants to hear you try and destroy us.
We got Mike Davis here with the $20 Super Chat.
Get my picture up there.
Can you grab the picture frame?
I think it's back there.
Get my picture up there with Trilstein and Dave on.
Forget Kanye.
The only color I see is green.
From here on out, let us be known as the trifecta.
Yeah, where are the other two pictures?
We should put them up there.
The trifecta.
Let's get the trio.
The trinity of sugar daddies.
Help me out of here, Chase.
Michael Trilstein, thank you for the big, or sorry, Mike Davis.
Thank you for the big $20 super chat.
Much appreciated, man.
All right.
And then we have, let's see, we got Dave on Jackson with the $10 Super Chat.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate the support since we can't tell women not to be like Nicolette.
Jesus.
Please allow me to preach to men to stop simping this hard for these three OFOs.
God damn.
Okay, simp for girls like Grace who deserve it.
Hey, don't shoot the messenger.
Nicolette, your response to Mr. Dayvon Jackson.
My response is that people don't like when they see another person who's unapologetically themselves who is sexually liberated, comfortable with their sexuality.
It makes them feel uncomfortable.
It makes them feel insecure.
It's not something that they're used to.
And all I have to say to that is grow some fucking balls and work on your self-esteem.
I'm not going to stop being myself.
And I don't think anybody else should for anyone else's opinion.
That's it.
Would you take issue with, and this is a sort of a common thing I've heard come up.
Would you take issue with a guy being uncomfortable or not wanting to date someone who was a sex worker?
For example, someone who had an OnlyFans or who was a stripper or who, well, I mean, there's degrees to sex work, right?
Would you have an issue with a guy saying, hey, you're free to do what you want to do, but I just, I wouldn't want to date you because you've done OnlyFans?
I wouldn't have an issue with it because I believe everyone has the option to be with whoever they want to be with.
You know, if someone wants to be with someone who doesn't do OnlyFans, they have every right to.
And myself, I have the right to be with someone who's cold.
I have the right to be with someone who accepts me for who I am.
And the fact that so many people are so judgmental about sex workers, that just goes to show that not everyone should join this industry.
You have to have very thick skin.
You have to be confident.
You have to be comfortable with rejection.
Would you date a guy who's slept with a bunch of prostitutes?
Would I sleep with a guy who's been.
No, I wouldn't.
But I'm not a prostitute.
Why wouldn't you date him?
I care about my sexual health.
Let's say he's clean.
Then maybe.
Okay, next week.
All right, we got Earl with the $10 super chat.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Tattoos are cool in my book.
It just is a bad look before age 25.
Hello?
Wait.
What?
I'm not sure, but it's not a bad look, F. That's cute.
No, he's right.
Like, maybe let your body be all cute and fresh, and then when you start to get towards 30, or like I did in the past two years, just blast the shit out of me.
Show us the tats.
I mean, I have a lot of tattoos, but I had tattoos earlier in my 20s.
I just thought I wasn't going to get more than like three.
Show us the task.
We'll just put the arms out so that people can see.
I have this sleeve that's coming together on this side.
Is that a cat with four eyes on your forearm?
Have you been doing tricep dips since our last?
No, but I have a four-year-old.
I gotta pick her up.
If you want to look buff, become a mom.
Like the striations on your tricep were like, I'm not gonna lie, they were like, damn, that's pretty impressive, guys.
Don't put it on her, Eric.
Eric, put it on her.
What if I do?
Boom.
Fucking shredded.
Okay.
Myron.
Myron aesthetics.
Myron.
Moving on.
They can dance.
Okay, Mike Davis, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
Girl and the wife beater who thinks she's got a line of husbands.
What she really got is a pack of Nigerian scammers.
Wait, who's in the wife beater?
Is this supposed to be a wife beater?
I think that's a good one.
It's a fucking tank top, you imbecile.
Oh, I'll call some wife beaters anymore.
Yeah, second.
No, honestly, I've had some pick of the mill men who would want to.
I just don't want to be in a relationship.
It's just, I don't know what, because I have tattoos.
You think that a man with money or standards or higher ground is not going to like me?
Like, you're very wrongly concerned with the wrong thing.
Don't worry about my pockets or my engagements.
I've had plenty of proposals offered to me.
I'm doing just fine.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mike Davis.
Milo's track with the Australian.
How many times have you been proposed to?
I've actually been proposed to three times.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah.
Okay, Milo's track, thank you for the Australian $10.
Appreciate it, man.
Thanks for the support.
I feel bad for all the people on the left, including the host, for seeing through this and sacrificing brain cells, listening to this torture.
Okay.
Well, you are too, friends, so feel bad for yourself, I guess.
Are you confirming that he's sacrificing brain cells right now?
No, I don't just.
You're talking about it.
He's going to tell you guys he feels bad for you.
Like, shouldn't he feel bad for himself too?
I mean, he's here, obviously.
Mike Davis.
What is Frank Castle?
Frank Castle.
So Fresh and Fit, which was, shout out to Fresh and Fit, obviously, pretty major inspiration for the show, just in terms of their format.
Frank Castle is their term they use when if a girl's being disrespectful or getting too rowdy or whatever and they kick her off.
And you've been on, if I'm correct, you've been on Fresh and Fit.
I think you're the first person that's been on Fresh and Fit and been on our podcast.
So how was that experience like on Fresh and Fit?
Did you like it?
Yeah, I was actually really surprised.
They were very nice and respectful.
Okay.
Well, there you go.
But yes, so she's been on the show.
Frank Castle, that's basically when you kick someone off the show.
You guys can kick me out.
They're saying that you should Frank Castle.
Yeah, they were telling, yeah, they were saying that Frank Castle.
If they want me, I'm 10 minutes ago.
Don't even turn it up.
I got you.
I got you.
Brian, I got you.
You'd have to probably do some crazy shit.
If the podcast will be better without me, I'm not willing to take the sacrifice.
Don't even trip, Kiko.
Sammy.
Yo, Sammy, thank you for the member.
Really appreciate it, man.
We got El Boogie.
Wait, guys, hold on.
Let me just get the soup chats done.
El Boogie, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
Really appreciate the support.
Tattoo Neck Chick.
Okay, P-Word or Gross.
Also, heard Let Me Sell My Preteen.
Oh, I don't want to go back to this, but thank you for the Soup Chat.
I get the point.
I get the point.
Can I just say that?
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
Can I just say the whole thing?
We have another comment on it.
Let's get this one out first.
Davon Jackson with the $10 super chat.
Thank you, man.
She claims she's calling out P-word by calling men who aren't P-word, P-Word.
But turns around and sells, Jesus Christ.
All right.
Chris Hansen, Canadian $10 Super Chat.
Hi, Kiko, have a seat.
I'm already sleeping.
Please.
Jesus.
Fucking Chad's, dude.
Chad's in the chat.
Appreciate you guys.
It's totally fine.
I get it.
I get that it could be contradictory in a sentence, like in a state, but if it makes sense to myself, that's all I personally give a fuck about.
And my dad's not checking me, neither my mom.
So, you know, life goes on.
Word, Shaheen.
Okay.
Red Misfit, thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
Appreciate the support.
Don't lie to her, Tara.
Did I?
Bro.
What?
What the fuck?
Did I?
It's Tara, dog.
You're hurting my feelings.
Chat.
Tara.
Chat, am I abusing?
Chat.
Am I abusing?
Okay.
Don't lie to her.
Kiki is not attractive to me at all.
Lots of makeup on, so you can't really tell.
I wouldn't try to get her number outside or socially at all, just saying, God damn, y'all.
Are you talking about Kiki?
Red Iko.
He means me.
Yeah, he means you.
He means me.
I really don't care.
Did he?
Okay.
Yeah, Kai said that she was pretty, and then she said I was pretty when we were arguing, so that's what he's talking about.
Thank you for Milo's track with the Australian $10 man.
Tara?
Did I say it right this time?
Yo, based Bible.
Did I say it right?
Yeah, I did.
Tara.
Okay.
See, that's the proper spell.
Okay.
Ha ha, don't take note of neck tattoo, but the Lord laughs at the wicked, for he knows their day is coming.
Based.
Who's the wicked, though?
Milos who who's Milos knows who's Okay.
We got, I can't.
Azul69, thank you for the $20 super chat.
Really appreciate the sport, man.
You're a legend.
I can't wait to ride on my trusted steed, swoop my lady.
Hold on.
Hold on, miss.
Funny.
I can't wait to ride on my trusted steed, swoop my lady on the fog left up to ride side saddle behind me and live happily ever after in which I have a monarchy that chase rules over.
Based.
Boost.
You're welcome in the kingdom, bro.
Milady.
Okay.
Brian, you should have put that one on, though.
You should have put that one on.
No, I should have put this one on.
Oh, yeah, there you go.
I think in order for us to- Kaiser Chase, check in.
Kaiser.
Kaiser Chase.
All right.
Thank you, man, for the super chat.
Okay, we got that one.
Yeah, and then we got Frenzy.
Thank you for the 10 British pounds.
Wait, Euro?
No.
British pounds, right?
Yeah.
Hensley has such a cool, cold, calculating, I don't give a fuck persona.
I find it both very attractive and very off-putting.
Rarely felt so conflicted.
Frenzy, be careful of this one.
She'll play with your emotions, dog.
Hensley, would you like to respond to Frenzy?
No.
Okay.
Frenzy, you'll end up hooked on her like heroin, and then you'll find yourself in rehab after the fact.
Careful, bro.
Green Lantern, thank you for the nine British pounds.
What's the Euro one look like?
Anyways, Hensley, please tell these Christians the Earth wasn't created 6,000 years ago.
Hensley, please tell us this.
Chase, do you believe in evolution?
I mean, I believe in natural selection.
I don't necessarily believe we evolved from apes, though.
But do you believe in the age of the planet?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I have questions about the first chapter of Genesis.
How long those seven days actually took?
Because how do you, like, how do you have a day before the sun is even created?
I'm done.
You're actually asking me, was it serious?
Did you hear the question I just asked you?
Did you?
Yeah, I know you didn't.
That's okay.
We can move on.
My brain kind of exploded when you said that.
Alex B with the $10 Sup Chat.
My question was addressed to the blonde in the center.
Beautiful blue-eyed girl.
Are you single?
P.S. Lewandowski.
I love you.
Amen.
Appreciate the CE port.
Thank you very much.
Lewandowski goes straight again.
Oh, he just can't do it.
You just could.
All right.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate the support.
You're a fucking legend, Alex.
Legend, Alex.
Jesus, I'm slurring my words.
Sorry, guys.
Red with the 10.
You never answered his question.
You are single, correct?
I'm single, yes.
Her DMs are open.
But don't forget she's waiting until marriage.
Yeah, she is waiting until you're a little bit more.
You have to be a Christian.
That's the first and foremost.
And speak fluent Icelandic.
Okay.
But you can have a micro penis.
No microphone, no microbe.
Yo, Red, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
Much appreciated.
Many men had really bad prawn addictions and never got attention from females without having money.
So females on the right shouldn't take the attacks seriously.
They mad.
Also, Hensley feet picks when Hensley.
Absolutely.
How much is someone going to have to super chat just to get like a foot raise?
Do I get the money?
I'll give you half.
75%.
What?
She's going to make you some money right now with her feet and you're going to argue?
No.
Okay.
Yo, make a deal.
Come on.
50 50 percent of the 69 percent six first off hold on the percentages don't matter You guys need to decide on a price here.
The percentages don't matter.
The price doesn't matter if you're not going to be able to get it.
$75 of $100 is worth less than 50% of $250.
You guys got to decide on a price.
Come on.
Are we business people or not?
Why is the Christian guy talking?
Because I'm smart.
I'm smart.
You should listen.
Hold on.
What?
Just wait.
Sorry.
Sorry.
I'll let it go.
I'll let it go.
All right.
She's seething over there.
We got Davon Jackson with the $10 Soup Chat.
Can someone pass that?
I'm just going to take these off the table for now.
Thank you.
Davon Jackson, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Insulting people for soup chatting is more an insult to Brian than to us.
Do you think the show you're currently sitting on isn't worth supporting?
Word?
Hey, appreciate the continued support week after week, man.
You're a legend.
We got Richard Joy with Canadian $10.
Issue with these soup chats when you don't get to them right away is that you just skip through them when the topic's over.
If you don't answer soup chats anymore in a reasonable time, I will stop.
Well, to be fair, we did, you know, maybe I need a, when I'm getting a high frequency of super chats, I might have to boost the amount.
I don't, like, how much for it to be read.
I don't know.
But we had, honestly, I don't know how many.
I think we've had 75 super chats tonight.
So it's just like, it's been most of the show.
I think his qualm is that when you get to the super chats, the conversation started.
We skip, no, we skip over them.
Like, we almost skipped over the question about whether or not Austis was single.
But I went back and caught it.
You know what I mean?
He really wanted to know the answer to that one.
Was he the one that asked that?
I'm talking about you.
What's your deal?
What's your deal?
Why are you so salty?
You're fucking salty.
I think you're really funny.
I like it.
Yeah, to be fair.
I think Nicolette's pretty fucking hilarious.
Thank you.
Freshest toothbrush with the $10 Super Chat.
OF BIN BO is unapologetically brainless.
Is that me?
I think like brainless.
Brainless.
I'm in Bin Bo, guys.
Oh, gosh.
Okay.
We got Dayvon Jackson with the $10 Super Chat.
I got King Kong Balls.
My self-esteem is through the roof.
I got something for you.
Let's see here.
That was a totally unrelated sound, but okay.
Appreciate it, Dave on Mike Davis.
Thank you, man.
Last pod, Hensley had blood coming from the face.
She got blood.
Now she got blood down below.
That time of the month, guaranteed.
Hensley, confirm or deny Mike Davis's.
I think we're in sync, Mike Davis.
Oh, boom.
Roasted.
Okay.
E.G. with the $10 soup chat.
Ask them why usually white women don't date Asian men.
It's an interesting question.
Okay, well, I suppose we can ask the white women this.
Do you find Asian men attractive?
Hensley?
No, but I'm traumatized.
I went to boarding school and everyone was Asian.
And it traumatized you because they were Asian?
It was a huge cultural divide and just living in one year where I was like the only white woman in the entire boarding school of 150 students.
It just really turned me off from them.
Did all of them want you?
Because you were the white chick?
Yes.
Wait, how old were you?
I was 14.
Oh, no.
Why did you get sent to boarding school?
I chose to go.
I sent myself.
It was an all-Christian boarding school in Santa Cruz.
In Santa Cruz?
You wanted to go to an all-Christian boarding school?
And it was all Asian.
I wanted to be a missionary.
Really?
Wow.
How time distorts things.
Okay.
We got Mike Davis with the $10 soup chat.
Now I fall back.
Keep her on.
These bimbos will get you in the green, Brian.
You're learning.
Okay.
Thank you, Mike Davis, for the soup chat.
Oh, are you talking about Kiko?
Oh, my God.
Yes, he is.
There's so many things I could say to him, but I'm just going to keep quiet.
Would you date Mike Davis?
Do I need to answer that?
Of course.
I feel like it's obvious.
Yes, you would.
It's a yes.
Absolutely not.
You're in, Mike.
Yes.
It's okay.
You'll have a chance to clap back at Mike Davis.
I sent another one in.
Pico, if I can just take a moment to endorse Mike Davis.
He's a very wealthy businessman on the East Coast, owns multiple establishments.
Yes.
Burger King establishments.
He's a proprietor.
He's got a very, very wealthy man.
Got a fire sense of humor too.
Will you just need to keep you on your toes?
Great, great facial hair.
You guys should suck a zig.
What the fuck?
Literally.
So fucking out of harmony.
Oh, out of the pocket, Nicolette.
It's disgusting.
That would be against the Bible, though.
It's disgusting.
So just kidding.
Mike's not my type.
Nicolette.
Yo.
What the?
Too dark.
God damn.
Nicolette.
Okay, every day, Edgar with the $10 Soup Chat.
Grace has good ideas, but her eyes too far apart.
Whoa, whoops.
That's fucking rude.
Always got to be somewhere.
Yeah, a little ad hominem.
That's my friend right there, Edgar.
That wasn't cool.
damn mike davis thank you for the he's literally obsessed with me Who, Mike Davis?
Yeah, look a little bit more.
Mike Davis with the $10 Soup Chat.
Panty Seller is hella insecure.
She bark at every softball.
She should hire Hensley as a therapist to teach her how to take a joke on the real, you're beautiful.
Life will be okay.
Thank you.
Which panty seller?
You?
Yeah, that's the panty seller.
Thank you so much.
Is there another panty seller?
She sells panties too.
Mike Davis, she's getting jealous of the if you're going to say panty seller, please also address Nicolette.
Please, okay?
She's getting upset that you're not equally paying her attention.
Thank you so much, Mike.
And then who do we have?
Yeah.
I appreciate you, buddy.
You spent about $40 for $50 commenting on me this night.
You're really.
You should just give him your Benmo nice.
No, literally, Mike, you know, I'm with her on that.
Every time, Mike's not going to be able to do that.
Mike Davis is for you.
Anytime you wanted to pay for them to comment, you could just cash up me this money instead and just save it to me if you wanted to, you know?
Yeah, she'll, I'm not going to make that joke.
Okay.
We got Fresh's Toothbrush here.
Thank you for the $10 super chat.
Appreciate the support.
Yo, appreciate everyone just dropping all these super chats.
We've had, I think, over 75 super chats tonight.
Y'all are fucking legends.
YouTube won't let me use certain words.
Hensley thinks she's smart.
Kiko 4 and the of chick is a lost cause.
I mean, you guys want to clap back?
Do you guys want to?
Subscribe.
Subscribe to Nicolette's OnlyFans.
What's the lowest tier?
Like, how much do you charge?
I'm having a sale at $7.
$7?
That's a deal, guys.
Yeah, it is.
That is a deal.
Go jack off.
Okay.
Good times.
So, we're going to watch one video, but before we do that, actually, no, we'll do the, because we were talking about this specific topic, I think this will put a little cherry on top on the conversation.
We've watched this video quite a few times before.
Eric, if you can please pull up the Andrew Tate clip.
I believe it's just the body count one.
Yeah, that one.
Oh, that's weird.
Hit stop on it.
Hit the stop button.
Now try.
Okay.
Sorry, bring it back, Eric.
The video's not working.
Okay, I guess the video doesn't want to load.
That's peculiar.
So while I go figure out what's going on there, I want to open it up to the panel.
Final thoughts or final question?
Tara this isn't for the panel but I have this is for like people in the audience I have, like, for male viewers, I just have some advice for you guys because I've seen, it's, like, rare that I'm interested in guys.
And I've had guys like fumble the bag really bad recently.
And I just need to get a PSA out there.
Yeah.
So one.
Give them specifics.
Yeah, I don't know.
Okay.
One is if you're into a girl, just go for it.
Like, don't go like through her friends because if you like have her, like if he's into you, if you're into her.
Okay, never mind.
I don't like freeball this, so never mind.
I got a good question for you.
Yeah, sure.
How did they fumble the bag?
Okay, thank you.
Lean it.
Okay.
First guy fumbled the bag because he was into me, but I only found out about it like through his friends.
So even though I like would have been interested in like getting to know more about him, he like never got the courage to like talk to me about it directly, which is just like, you know, can't reward pussies, so that's a no.
But so in the future, if you're listening, you should be like confident and fearless and just go for a girl if you like her so that you, yeah, you never know if she's gonna be into you back.
So don't fumble the bag like that.
Like go for it.
This actually opens up an excellent question that I have for all of you guys.
We can go in this direction.
What advice would you guys give guys that are trying to find the right woman, become better with women, so on and so forth?
Maybe one or two things.
Okay, here's another thing not to do that I just like had to get off.
Is if you don't, I don't know, and I want to hear your guys' thoughts on this too.
I have a question for you guys.
What are your thoughts on you first?
You're first talking to a guy, and he right off the bat is like, just you know, like, I'm only looking for like casual sex, basically.
How do you take that?
How do you take that?
Because that's fumbling the bag, if you ask me.
I don't know.
That is like don't understand that.
What were you gonna say?
You had something to say.
Well, I mean, it just depends on the girl.
Like, if a guy were to come up to me and be like, I'm just because I'm not looking for anything serious.
So, if he was like, I'm just looking for something casual, I'd be like, down.
But if I was actually looking for my husband or something serious, I'd be like, that's funny.
I'm out of here.
So it just depends on where you're standing and like what you want, I guess.
To go off of what she said, even though also at the time I'm not looking for anything really permanent right now, I'm more exploring and finding out what I like and don't like in a partner.
If somebody says that to me off the bat, it's just kind of a red flag because I don't know if some girls want honesty and you want the honesty straightforward.
Me, I rather go with the illusion that we love each other for two weeks and then never speak to each other again, you know?
Like at least fake it till you make it a little bit.
Anybody else?
Was it the advice part?
Yeah, we can get back to that.
Actually, really quick, I think this is directed at you.
We have Rolo Tomasi, the rational male, in the chat.
Who's watching her kids tonight?
I don't have kids.
I thought you were mom.
I have one kid.
I have one daughter.
I have one daughter, and then I have fur babies.
I mean, I have a dog and two kitties.
So is your husband watching your kid?
Yeah, I'm married.
My husband's watching my daughter.
So, so, okay, anyways, logical.
I am curious to hear from you guys.
There's a lot of guys watching this to gain insight on women, how your guys' minds work, how they can get better with women.
And I'm curious, like, I'm sure you guys have things in your minds where you're like, you know what?
Guys just fall short.
There's a lot of dudes out there with potential, but they fall short in this way or that way.
What could guys do, generally speaking, in our generation to be better with women and your guys' opinions?
I have some questions.
I want.
Let's go that way.
Okay.
Did you want to go on that or you want me to start?
No.
Yeah, I already said, I would say one thing would be just clarity to women.
I think that kind of like what she was saying.
Yeah, yeah, but also I think that there are men out there that are scared of commitment.
And I think that they, yeah, I think that guys should be more open about that if they don't want to commit or are not looking.
I think they should just be open and honest.
And I think also being bold, like call it for what it is.
I really appreciate when a guy is like, hey, I want to take you on a date and do this.
And it doesn't have to be extravagant.
I think guys should know that.
Like just putting intentionality into things.
Like I'm not going to hang out.
And that's just not for me.
Like I'm, I, if you're serious about it, I think that there should be intentionality into it.
And following up and not ghosting when you're like 28, 29.
Like at that age, I think you should be able to have a conversation.
The best, I will say, that guy that was the best date, one of the best things about him was when he pulled back and I felt it emotionally and I was like, what did I do?
And I met, I like texted him again and I don't like doing that and I could just feel a difference.
He was so straight up and honest.
He didn't ghost me.
He was like super straight up.
You're awesome, but I'm still thinking about my ex and I don't think this is a good thing.
He FaceTimed me to tell me that.
That was the first time.
I've had a lot of guys that are just like, that ghost or that just aren't mature about that.
And so that was a really mature move because I left that situation feeling like, okay, like it didn't work out and I have nothing bad against him.
So I think more guys should do that.
Good answer, Austis.
Yeah, I totally agree with the ghosting part.
That's the most annoying thing.
My two things that I would say for both men and women when it comes to dating is do not lower your standards.
Don't sacrifice something just for someone because you think you like them, but put your standards up first.
And then the second one is to be authentic.
Don't just, and when I say authenticity, I'm talking about like your passions, your interests.
Don't fake an interest just so you can get closer to somebody.
Like if the girl's like, oh, I'm a vegan, and you're like, yeah, me too, but you love bacon, like don't go down that route.
So that's all I have to say.
That's good.
So I'm going to piggyback off of the girls over here.
I think that don't limit yourself, like what you said.
Don't be shy.
For example, like last weekend, I had this guy tell me, I was so shocked.
He said, I would rather settle for a five or six than get denied by a ten.
So he basically said he doesn't even go up to girls who he thinks he his wording was bad, bad.
So he doesn't like go up to girls who he considers like a 10 or highly ranked because he has this perception of them that they're bitches or like turn you down or whatever.
I say don't limit yourself.
I say don't put yourself in that box.
You'd be pretty surprised.
Just be yourself.
And then also what you said, what you two said was to be honest about what your intentions are, you know, I feel like most girls would prefer that.
I've also had this other guy tell me that he purposely leads girls on and makes them think, makes them believe that he wants a relationship because he believes that he's more likely to get sex out of them.
And I think that's fucked up.
In my opinion, that's the same thing as rape.
Wait.
I'm sorry, it's the same thing as ROA or whatever you want to call it SA, whatever.
Wait, hold on.
Can you just like rewind 10 seconds?
So if the girl is consider the R word.
If the girl is only hooking up with you because she believes that she's going to get like a relationship out of you, or you guys are heading towards that route, and you are manipulating her into thinking that.
And say if she would have known prior that that's all that you wanted out of her, maybe she wouldn't have hooked up with you.
So you are manipulating her into having sex with her.
Wait, so you're saying like guys are saying they want something more serious in order to secure sex from women and then they just disappear.
Is that kind of what you're getting at a little bit?
Yeah.
They're misrepresenting their intentions.
Yeah, because they assume.
And you know what happens when you assume.
Tell me what happens.
What happens when you assume that you make an ass out of you and an ass out of me?
Well, I mean, I guess if it's coercion for a guy to say, I'm really into you.
I want to pursue something seriously.
I'm interested in a relationship.
Would you also agree then that it's coercion when women wear makeup or have plastic surgery or have face filters or Photoshop?
No.
Yeah, that's two different things.
I mean, I have a question.
I have a question.
If a guy was like, yo, like, I want to date you and you were like, okay, and then you had sex with him and then he just like bounced on you.
You said that you consider that rape.
Would you accuse him of rape?
No.
I think you're misunderstanding me.
She's trying to, like, I get what she's trying to say, because, like, I wouldn't necessarily say, like, yeah, like, that's rape or anything.
I would not agree, but it is a form of, like, you know, it's manipulation, basically.
It's manipulation.
Certainly.
I wouldn't necessarily say that's straight up rape or anything, because I don't think it's justifiable to go and take that to court or the length extents or whatever.
But it's been a new discussion being brought up about how it's similar to cohort coercion awake.
I believe that coercion is definitely rape.
If you're somebody saying no a million times and you're like convincing them to say yes after a certain point, because most times women say yes after a while because we fear our safety and we thinking it's either let's say yes and get this over with or it could be a violent thing in the end, right?
But like personally from what she's saying, I disagree.
I wouldn't say necessarily it's rape, but it is a form of manipulation.
It's a very mild watered down form of assault in a way, because but it depends on how it's done.
Because there's like I don't know how to explain.
I'm going to use an example.
So I'm going to school for real.
I'm going to school for real estate.
You have three years to sue someone for not disclosing something to you.
So if you can find that there's mold in the house and say, you know, you don't know if the selling agent, the person who sold you that house, they may or may not have known about it.
It doesn't matter.
You can still sue them.
So I hope I'm getting my point across.
But basically, like, by you not disclosing that to them, it's fucked up.
Just be honest.
And, you know, there's a lot of girls out there.
They'll probably sleep with you anyway.
Let me just say something.
Let me just say something for all the guys out there.
You guys, I want you to hear what they're saying very clearly.
We live in an age where there's a lot of false rape accusations that are thrown around.
There's a lot of false sexual assault accusations that are thrown around.
Listen to what they're saying.
Just be careful, bros.
Be careful.
Just stay abstinent like him and you'll be okay.
Exactly.
Bro, exactly.
Can we stop with the ad hominem attacks on each other, guys?
Okay, so.
But okay, so your position is, is that if a guy is being disingenuous as to his intentions in courting you, that if he makes a statement, for example, I'm interested in a long-term relationship, and that happens to not be true, you're saying that that is tantamount to sexual.
I just want to understand what you're saying.
Is that a fair assessment of what your position is?
I don't know.
Why don't you turn the question on to the girls on the right?
If they were to get married to someone and then have sexual intercourse with them, and that person then on goes to divorce them, I'm sure they would feel like betrayed.
Can we move on?
I would not.
I don't think it would be assault, though.
No.
Next.
The only point I'll make is that if men are, if it's somehow coercion or there's either some sort of criminal, there's a suggestion that there should be criminal liability for men making romantic, there's a specific term for this, but it's not coming to me.
You're saying it's criminal to lead a girl on.
Yeah, but then surely it also must be criminal for women to wear makeup, use Photoshop, get plastic surgery.
You don't even have to go that far.
It could be criminal for a girl to lead a guy on in that same way.
In the same way.
Yeah.
That's stuff.
That's all I do.
I do.
No, but it's just like, that's the game.
Oh, baby, I love.
Like, I don't think it's right.
I agreed with you.
I don't think that's right.
I said I want a man to do that.
I said I want a man to lead me on anything.
So the remote person.
Wait, you want a man to lead you on?
No, that's not what I'm saying, obviously, but it's like I was saying.
Does that mean you want to be What are you saying?
No, because I said earlier when we were talking about if we want men to be straight up with us or whatever, and I said how I'm not seeking a relationship right now, but I'd rather fake the funk for a couple weeks rather than us just off the bat being like, you know, so I don't know.
I don't want to explain it.
That's why, like, I wasn't saying that.
I wasn't saying that that was rape.
I was actually saying that I think it's different.
But then Brian's blocking eye contact with me, so I just felt necessary.
I'm sorry.
Clarify.
I just wanted to say on that, just real quick.
You do, like, us as women, I believe that we're, I'm not, I'm not saying that that's right.
Like, I totally get that there's situations where stuff is really bad that can happen.
But I do think that we as women, if we want to say that we respect ourselves and we have a high amount of respect for ourselves, I think that you really do have to be the gatekeeper on seeing who this man is and not putting yourself in a situation where that could happen.
You could get taken advantage of.
Yeah, like I would be like, no, I need to see who this guy is.
I'm not even like, you can take me on proper dates.
I'm not going to, I'm not going to fool around because I don't want that regret for myself because I respect myself.
And I think that he needs to prove himself.
And that actually has gives me more self-respect because I know that I'm keeping my limits to what I want.
So, yeah.
The argument is that it's coercion if a guy is saying, no, baby, I'm going to date you.
I'm going to date you.
I'm going to be a little bit more.
That's not what I mean by coercion, though.
What do you mean by coercion?
I mean when they're like, come on, come on, let's just do it.
That sounds really good.
I know that is a definition of coercion.
That's why I put, I would have said that because I brought up the definition coercion earlier because I was saying I don't think what she's saying is rape necessarily, but a close synon to the situation she's talking about is coercion, where I believe that is assault.
That's what we're doing.
And that's fair.
That's a fair take.
That's a fair take.
If a girl's saying no, and a guy's like, no, no, no, come on, come on, come on.
That's why I think that's coercion.
I don't think it's assault if somebody leads somebody on.
I don't personally think that's assault.
No.
Okay, okay, great.
Yeah, I think those are two different.
I don't think coercion is.
Thank you for clarifying.
Yeah, I don't think coercion is to be used to describe a man leading a woman on.
Do you think it's coercion if a guy is saying, yeah, baby, I want to date you?
I want to say that you're not going to be able to do it.
No, I never said it was coercion.
I think it's manipulation.
I think it's wrong.
I agree with you that it's wrong, but yeah, it is wrong.
But it's tantamount to rape still.
No, I was just kind of comparing the two on a like extreme, extreme way.
Okay, let me get to this next soup chat.
We got Dave on Jackson with the $10 soup chat.
Nicolette's ancestors survived just to have their descendants value themselves at $6.99.
Would you like to respond to Mr. Dayvon Jackson?
Nicolette.
Search Nicolette, Nicole, and OnlyFans.
All right, $6.99.
Is there a promo going on, like 20% off or what's up?
It's 50% off.
I actually just, I made a sale because I know it was coming on tonight.
So take advantage.
Are you typically $14?
Typically.
Ah.
But guys.
But I'm only five, right?
Can we do like a promo code?
I put whatever.
There's like a little message.
No, she didn't say you were worth it.
Yeah, check it out on my Instagram.
This is clarifying.
Yo, guys.
She has a promo code, whatever, if you want a little for her only fans.
And don't get me wrong.
I want to end on a positive note.
I think every girl here is beautiful.
Whether we disagree or not, it's all for, you know, just content and entertainment.
I think we just learned from this, if not at least myself, that I learned I believe what I believe for certain reasons, and I'm not budging on that.
And I'm sure you guys learned that you believe what you think for certain reasons.
Like, to be completely blank and straightforward, there's a few things that you guys said that if I wasn't trying to be respectful in this room, I would have straight up laughed at and been like, I would never, ever, ever agree with that.
And I'm so glad I don't think that way.
And I'm sure there's things that we said that you guys would straight up laugh at and be like, I'm so glad I don't think that way.
And that's why we are how we are, and you guys how you are.
And you're going to pursue the men you pursue, and we're going to pursue the people we pursue.
Salud.
Nothing in the cupboard.
All right, we got empty cup.
We have Mike Davis here with a $10 super chat.
Chase, don't be lying that I'm not your type.
One minute in, and you'll be screaming Black Lives Matter.
Fucking go, dude.
Oh, my God.
But I'm asexual.
I'm married to the money.
Man's married to the gay.
You really had to ask me if I would be into this man.
Mike is so fucking funny.
What do you mean?
What?
Mike, if you ever come out here.
I think, Mike, if you ever come out here, you don't have to dox on the show, but we at least have to get beers, bro.
Yeah.
Come to Santa Barbara.
We'll grab dinner.
And if you do want to be on the show, like I said, I have that guy Fox mask.
So we can hide your identity.
Yeah, and Mike, beers and dinner on me.
I want to meet you, bro.
Boom.
We have the rational male here.
Don't put Trillstein's chats on screen unless they're 500 plus.
Michael Trillstein, step up in your game.
Hey, but thank you for all this support, Michael.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you for the 10 gifted memberships at the beginning of the show.
By the way, guys, we're really close to getting unlocking our next emoji.
So if you guys want to gift or become a member, we're super close.
Help us unlock that next emoji.
And then we just have these.
And okay, so let's watch this one video and then we'll wrap in like 5'10.
Eric, can you try once more to play that video for us?
Wait, I'm just supposed to be at work.
We're almost done.
We're almost done.
I am 20 minutes late to work, Brian.
This is a long one.
Do press stop first and then try pressing it.
Okay, try playing.
Hold on.
I said they were here before.
No, go back down to the tape.
Okay.
Just a little bit.
Supposed to be at like 20.
Do the Nelk one.
Do the Nelk one.
Are you the only bartender tonight?
The first one.
Green Lantern's fucking super chat.
It's so funny.
What the fuck?
But like, that's not my fault.
Oh, really?
Okay.
Okay.
Everyone else.
Sorry, guys.
The videos for some strange reason are not loading, so whatever.
Green Lantern said, Chase, would you rather smash the hottest trans woman in the world or the oldest woman in the world?
Honestly, bro.
So you're old, old dish.
The oldest woman in the world, because then I wouldn't be gay.
What?
You really just want me to just whip you a fucking new one?
I swear to God.
Are you like, Chase, how dare you be transphobic?
Yes, actually.
What the fuck do you mean?
Yes, that was a good idea.
Because if I had sex with a trans woman, I'd be having sex with a biological man, and I don't want to do that.
The question is, that's not what you said, though.
That's fine.
Because I'd be gay if I had sex with a body.
I was like, I'm not sure if I'm gay.
That's not gay.
And I don't care if you're doing this for like whatever, but like, shut the fuck up, actually.
I'm doing it.
You look like you have a literally.
I know.
That's too funny.
Why don't you make me shut the fuck up?
Because I have an opinion that differs from yours.
She's right.
I mean, that's really hateful.
She's not.
It would technically be homosexual.
A trans woman is a biological man.
Sue me.
It's true.
Dude, that's mean.
I also didn't know what I'm saying.
It's not fucked up.
It's real.
It's true.
Okay, if you guys want to respect gender identities, that's his, though.
That's his sexuality.
Any opinions you want, but I'm not allowed to say that.
Not allowed to say that?
Yes, from a biological woman who doesn't even have any trans friends, that was too fucking far.
A man of God who doesn't judge a Christian?
Yeah.
Yeah, you know what God said?
It said he made the man and women.
He made the man and woman.
I just told you I'm not gay.
I'll pass on that.
Thanks, though.
She stole my word from me.
I just had to.
Yeah.
Finally, episode 33.
We made people walk off.
If you want to defend people's sexuality and sexual orientation, then you should respect all of them.
You should respect all of them.
Have a nice night.
It was funny.
The camera wasn't on you.
No, I wasn't trying to run out.
I took the opportunity.
Okay.
Yeah, we were going to wrap up.
Boys, was that content or was that content?
Well, you were also given the option.
You're entitled to your own opinion.
Yes, it's true.
She made it through that entire conversation, and then that was.
I find it interesting that that was the thing that made her walk off.
She's late for work.
It's late.
Yeah, we've been going for a while, so it's probably like the fuse was short.
All right, let me just get the.
Did we get any super chats?
Or what?
It was so satisfying to watch.
Oh, my God.
Holy shit.
This is better than Jerry Springer.
Rub.
Wait, we didn't hear that.
Who knew that stating biological facts would make people walk off the show?
Chase, they didn't finish answering your question.
Which one?
About how men can improve.
That's all right.
The ship is sailing.
My heart is not broken.
It's okay.
And then E.G., this is better than Jerry Springer.
Oh, God.
Dude, this is fucking content, bro.
Bro, is the video.
Chat, is this Monko TOS?
Chat, is it?
Is it T?
Chat?
Nicolette looks pissed.
Nicolette, are you pleased?
Is this?
Is it Monco TOS?
The views, let me just say this disclaimer.
The views expressed by the panelists on this show do not necessarily reflect the channel owner or the channel.
I think we're fine.
I don't, yes, we're fine.
What Brian's trying to say is he would have slept with the super hot trans woman, is what he's saying.
There's nothing wrong about it.
Nothing to laugh.
Nothing to laugh about it, though.
No, there isn't anything to do.
Wow.
I'm surprised that we were so close to making it to the end, too.
Unfortunate, unfortunate.
Let's pull up these last super chats.
Have you never had somebody walk off before?
First time.
No, we had the two attorneys.
Did they walk off?
Oh, and you're an old sound guy.
Yeah.
And you were classic.
Classic.
I knew they're clipping me.
I know.
I need to step up the clipping game.
Yo, chat.
If anybody in the chat's like down to help out with video editing, I'm just overwhelmed with all the other stuff I'm doing on the podcast.
I have not dedicated enough time to doing clips, uploading clips to TikTok, clips to YouTube, both shorts and regular clips.
So if anybody's down to help out, let me know.
DM out, whatever.
By the way, Ghost Stalker told me to tell you guys we've got a few super chats we got to get to just before we forget.
Did we miss any?
He just commented it like a minute ago.
I mean, I'm pretty sure we got.
We have three up there at the top on that.
Why don't we just check?
Elder Scrolls.
No, we got E.G., we got Mike Davis.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think we might have missed one of Mike Davis's.
Why don't we just check the super chat?
Eric, can you click?
Wait, wait, no.
Just Eric.
No, no, no.
Go back to the other window.
Can you click on the ghost stalker said right there?
Exit out of that, Eric.
Ghost Stalker said right there, right there.
Yep.
From Mike Davis and others, he needs to go back and read.
Okay, I don't know.
Yeah, can you just scroll up, Eric, and just check on that?
You got so many super chats tonight.
I don't know if that's it.
Oh.
We shouldn't let the panel vote.
Wait, go back to that, Eric?
Oh, it's this one.
Okay.
Sorry, guys.
Mike Davis with the Intendo Super Chat.
The only thing Wannabe Ariana learned is that she needs to get back on the meds as soon as possible.
Word?
Okay.
She left.
We shouldn't talk about her.
She did storm off.
We were so close to making.
I mean, Mike Davis predicted it, right?
Frank Castle.
All right.
What the fuck, yo?
That is so funny.
All right.
Chase is basically Kanye now.
All right.
I mean.
Kanye's the goat.
All right.
And then let's see.
We have.
Do we have one more?
We just had one more that came in from Mike Davis.
Mike Davis, the trash took itself out, natural selection on its fine.
All right.
Mike Davis roasting.
Hardcore.
Wow.
Okay.
So would anybody, guys, if you're watching and you like the show, become a member and go to Twitch.
Drop an Amazon Prime sub.
Give us a follow.
Just saying.
And so before we wrap, guys, you can bring it back, Eric.
Anyone final thought?
Want to say anything before we wrap up here?
Hensley?
No.
Tatum.
Good.
Good.
I'm tired.
Nicolette.
Use code whatever for her OnlyFans.
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It's 50% off.
Check it out.
Okay.
All I want to say is that I respect everyone's opinions here.
I think you're.
Except for Chase.
I'm just kidding.
Who is saying that I think you would make more than $5.
You're really pretty.
I just thought that you needed to like.
No, it's not that.
It's not easy money.
That's what I was getting at.
You're very beautiful.
Everyone.
Who the fuck is that guy?
And that's it.
This has been a very interesting podcast so far, I have to say.
Austice, any thoughts besides just interesting?
That's it.
All right.
grace um this was really it was really fun I think it was really cool.
And I respect all of your guys' opinions too.
And yeah, it's just cool to see how we think it's a pretty important topic, especially in our generation, like dating and relationships and stuff.
Obviously, we're all trying to figure it out.
So it's good to hear people's perspectives.
So it was really fun.
I love this show.
Thank you, Brian, for having me on again.
This panel was lit.
So well, thank you, Tara, for coming on.
Did I say it right?
Wait, did I?
Tara?
Yeah.
Yes, you did.
Good job.
What's up, Austis?
Just want to say one thing.
In Icelandic, when you say bye, you say bless bless.
And I just thought that was really cool because when you're saying goodbye to someone, you're literally blessing them, and that's in the Icelandic language.
So bless bless.
Oh, that's fun.
Yo, Tara.
For a second, it seemed like you and Kiko were like going to legit go.
I thought, I know, and I was like really sad.
I like, I think she's really cool.
It's not personal.
It's just for the podcast because it's fun.
Like, I would never get into topics like this with her.
Like, if I had met her, not on this podcast, we would have probably had like a great friendship.
Like, I don't know.
We could have had a friendship.
I don't know.
But she, like, like, straight, I just, I just want to know if I can go back to backstage at one point.
I don't.
She's penned me.
She said just not on weekends.
Oh, just not on Saturday.
Okay, I just wanted to say that.
I'll find much better things to do.
Okay.
She burned you.
Wow.
Yes.
I got a couple of things I want to say.
First off, this was a lot of fun.
This is a lot of fun.
I pushed Brian pretty hard to have a very polarized, opposite extreme ends of the spectrum panel because I thought something like this might happen.
And it did.
Thank you guys for participating.
I want you guys on this side of the table to know I don't think I'm better than you in any way.
Okay.
I don't think you guys are bad people.
I don't look at it like that.
Okay.
I hope you know that.
I respect you guys as people.
I thank you guys for coming in, stating your opinions.
I think it makes for interesting content.
Thanks for making his podcast better.
I had fun.
I hope you guys did too.
Also, thank you, ladies, for sharing your positions.
It's nice to finally get a few God-fearing women on the show.
It's pretty rare.
And yeah, Brian, thanks for having all of us, bro.
Yeah, thank you guys for coming.
And I'm trying to think if there's anything else, last things.
Well, it's unfortunate that Kiko stormed out like that.
Or, well, yeah, I mean, we don't like to see people get upset.
Yeah, Kiko, if you end up watching this, I just want you to know I respect you as well.
You made this podcast very fun tonight.
It was fun going tit for tat with you.
It was an interesting conversation.
Thank you.
Sweet.
So big thank you to everyone here who came on.
Thank you to the panel.
Really appreciate you guys.
And big thank you to you guys for watching.
You could have been doing anything else, but you were here with me.
I appreciate that.
We're going to wrap up.
We will be live.
It's today Thursday.
Wait.
Today's Thursday.
We might be doing another dating talk panel Sunday.
That's usually an off day for us.
If that doesn't materialize, we will be live again Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
Guys, like the video and leave a comment on your way out for the algorithm.
Thanks again to the wonderful panel for joining us.
You said Big Mike Trilstein is coming in on Tuesday.
Mike Trilstein will be here on Tuesday, guys.
And then we have a very good panel on Tuesday as well.
So yeah, thanks again for watching, guys.
And I feel like I'm forgetting one thing.
Oh, people were asking about Madison update.
They were curious about.
Did you smash?
No, we just chatted.
We just talked.
Yeah.
While naked?
No, no, no.
We just talked for a bit and then that was it.
Okay.
That was so awesome when that happened.
You were trying to prove a point about how hard it is for guys to get sex from women and stuff.
And you were like, Madison, would you have sex with me?
And she was like, yeah.
You know what's funny is like we legitimately, we just talked and the girls that the other girls were on the panel, like on the panel were like, maybe they're trying to be protective or whatever, but they were like, some of them seem more like trying to cockblock.
I'm just saying.
The girls on the panel with Madison?
They were trying to cockblock.
After the show, they were trying to cockblock it.
Oh, interesting.
What were they doing?
I think part of it was just them being protective or whatever.
But we legit, we just sat and talked for like 30 minutes.
And then I was like, I got to do some work.
I got to get some food and whatever.
So yeah, we just chatted.
We got a convo and she's cool and whatever.
That was such a funny moment.
Yeah, that was super funny.
Anyways, guys, thanks for watching.
Thanks again to the big panel.
Thanks to the, sorry, guys, it's almost going on four hours.
I'm kind of fried at this point.
Thanks to the panel.
Thank you guys for watching.
And we'll see you guys next time.
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