Whatever Podcast - Dating Talk #23

Feb. 3, 2023 - Whatever Podcast

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Dating Talk #23

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	Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast.
	We're coming to you live from Isla Vista, Santa Barbara County, California.
	Every Tuesday and Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific, I am your host, Brian Atlas.
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	Chat, we need to summon the great Mike Davis.
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	Rain emojis?
	Like a little rain dance?
	What's up?
	Like crying emojis?
	No, like a rain dance.
	Or actually not, yeah, just rain.
	The kid.
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	Anyways, we're going to have a guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and door school major.
	Go ahead.
	My name is Jubilee.
	I'm 19, not in school, but I have my own business doing nails.
	You do nails?
	Yes, I do.
	Okay, cool.
	I'm Mae.
	I'm 19.
	I'm a sophomore, and I'm a so sorry, sociology major.
	Sophomore at UCSB?
	SBCC.
	Oh, okay, cool.
	I'm Vivi, and I'm also a sophomore at CC, but I am a political science major.
	Age?
	Oh, 19.
	Pull the microphone towards you, just closer towards you a bit.
	Perfect.
	Go ahead.
	Sorry.
	I'm Maddie.
	I am 19.
	I'm a sophomore at UCSB.
	And what are you studying?
	Oh, I'm undeclared right now.
	Okay.
	I'm Yazzie.
	I'm 18.
	I'm a second year at UCSB, and I'm a psych major.
	Hi, I'm Susan.
	I'm 25, and I go to UCSB.
	I study econ.
	Hi, my name is Luke.
	I'm 19.
	I go to Santa Barbara City College, and I'm majoring in film and media production.
	Rock and roll.
	So everyone's Instagram's in the description.
	Show them some love.
	Give them a follow.
	So I want to go around the table once more.
	So current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on any dating apps?
	That includes seeking arrangements.
	Go ahead.
	I'm single.
	My longest relationship was a little over a year.
	And I'm banned off Tinder and Hinge.
	So I'm on bumble.
	Seeking arrangements?
	No.
	Wait, you're banned off both Tinder and Hinge.
	What did you do?
	I didn't do anything.
	Come on.
	I swear.
	Didn't do anything.
	They just banned me off both at the same time.
	Are you sure?
	I think so.
	I emailed them.
	They can't do anything about it.
	I don't think I did anything.
	I don't think so.
	You know.
	I mean, I don't know.
	I could have said something.
	I don't know.
	Someone could report me.
	I don't know.
	I don't really respond to it.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So you have no idea what you did.
	I have no idea what I did.
	They won't tell me.
	I email them both.
	They don't.
	Well, maybe they didn't communicate to you what you did, but you know what.
	I don't think I know what I did.
	Were you posting, were you nude in anything?
	I don't think so.
	Did you get it before you were 18?
	No, no.
	Were you trolling on there?
	No.
	I literally was on it and they did it at the same time because they're kind of connected in a way.
	They said I have to get approval from Tinder to be approved from Hinge and I didn't get either.
	Huh.
	That's peculiar.
	Yeah.
	So on Hinge, you know the prompts, right?
	How recently were you banned?
	Like two weeks ago.
	Okay, do you remember what your prompts were?
	Like what you wrote for your prompts?
	I don't remember.
	I changed them all the time.
	Was it like Venmo Me?
	No.
	Cash App?
	No.
	Because that'll get you banned.
	Really?
	Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
	Anyways, I'm single.
	The longest relationship I've had is like three months and I'm currently on Tinder.
	Any other dating apps?
	That's literally it.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	I'm single right now, and my longest relationship was like two and a half years, and I have Hinge and Tinder.
	I'm single.
	I've never been in a relationship, and I'm on Tinder.
	I'm also very single.
	My longest relationship was like a year, and I have Tinder because I'm too scared to get anything else.
	You're too scared to get anything else.
	What do you mean by that?
	No, like, okay, bumble, you, like, choose.
	Like, I don't, I'm too indecisive for that.
	It's like not.
	You're too what?
	Indecisive.
	No, I get what you mean.
	Hinge, you see yourself.
	I hate so you know and you're like, you can?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but then like you have to like if you like if you're indecisive like I am and I'm like I don't know if I want to like swipe right or left, you know You can't look at anyone else.
	You can only like you have to choose You can't look at anyone else until you choose you know what I mean?
	That's what I hate I Wish I could like go forward go back Yeah, I mean even if you got on Bumble like yeah, you do have to send the first message But honestly like most of the women on Bumble They just send hey I'm gonna forget because after 24 hours I'm actually say hi and that's it.
	Yeah.
	By the way, like I've heard this from women and I've seen them write it on their profiles on other dating apps.
	They say try to come up with something more creative than just hey or how's it going.
	But then you've got the sole dating app where women have the power.
	And 90 90% of them.
	Y'all just saying hey, so okay.
	So I mean I'd reckon I mean you can get away with you really don't have to so you're saying I should just get in.
	I should just say hey.
	If you want to be lazy with it, you'll still have success on Bumble even if you're just like hi.
	So I'll look into it.
	Hinge is pretty good too.
	Hinge is good.
	Wait, so you've also, just going back to you, you've never had a long-term relationship.
	I've never been in a relationship.
	What is the longest period of time that you've seen someone?
	Maybe you haven't had a boyfriend.
	Talking stage?
	Like two weeks, a fortnight.
	Maybe like two months?
	Two months.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Two months too long.
	Okay, so you know the guy.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, so then, and did you, so for that longest situation or whatever, however you would categorize it, who ended that?
	Was it you or just mutual ghost?
	It was mutual.
	Like it was just like a summer fling, I guess.
	So just, you know, like once school starts again, it's like, oh, kind of knew of that going in.
	Sure.
	By the way, I want to give a shout out to Verks in the chat.
	He must have became a member while we weren't live.
	So Verx, thank you for your membership on the channel.
	Go ahead, your turn.
	I'm single, and the longest relationship I've been in, it's two years, and I'm on Hinge.
	Rock and roll.
	Luke.
	I'm still single.
	And the longest relationship that I've been in is six months.
	And I'm not on any dating site.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	Did any, so Luke is back.
	I think you were here.
	Was it last Thursday?
	Yeah, last Thursday.
	So a week ago.
	So in that period of time, you get any DMs from any ladies?
	I can't lie, yeah.
	Really?
	So they said, hey, I watched the show.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And what happened with Erica?
	Shout out to Erica.
	Did y'all link up or not?
	No, not really.
	We were going to go out to Ivy, but it was just too packed and shit wasn't going down.
	So we were like, no.
	Wait, so you got what's up I know Erica.
	Yeah.
	Last week, yeah.
	Yeah, I guess they were like chat was shipping.
	Chat was shipping Luke and Erica during the whole show.
	So you got some DMs from girls.
	What?
	Like, can you share the thirst?
	How?
	I mean, it was pretty dry.
	It was pretty dry.
	Yeah, again.
	Don't talk shit about me.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	There were like probably three or four that hit me up or I was like in IV and they were saying, oh my God, wait, you were on that podcast.
	And I was like, yeah, I didn't know that you would watch the podcast because it would be the weirdest thing.
	And they would be drunk off their ass.
	And I was like, okay, I really don't want to talk to you right now.
	You're just spewing shit out of your mouth.
	So, you know, if you want to talk to me, then, you know, here's my information.
	Talk to me.
	But if not, and this is just going to be some weird little IV shit, ciao.
	By the way, guys, does the girl's angle look a little bit overexposed?
	It might be slightly.
	You could just be pale.
	Believe me.
	It might just be our monitor too.
	One in the chat, if it looks a bit overexposed.
	Chase, if you can, professional photographer, does it look a little overexposed?
	Anyways, so really quick, last thing to kind of go around the table on this, because I do think that this can sort of have an impact a bit on how you approach dating and how you approach men.
	Would you say that you identify as a feminist?
	I think so.
	Just a yes or no?
	Yes.
	I would like to say yes, but honestly, sometimes I question it.
	Why?
	Well, it's just like, like, I do support women, like, 100%, but it's just like sometimes, like, I don't really, like, do as much as other people, I guess.
	So I'm like, oh, like, yeah, I'll just like let them, like, I support it, but I don't really, like, actively do anything about it.
	So I don't think that makes you any less sense.
	Like, that doesn't, like, yeah, I guess that's true.
	Like, it doesn't, but it doesn't make me like an active feminist, I guess.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I support it, but I think there are some things that I don't agree with in it.
	Okay, interesting.
	So as the sole, as the sole egalitarian at the table, this should be interesting.
	Okay, so we're going to move on to our very first question.
	So.
	Yeah, with that guy said.
	So before I, we're going to do some video reactions, and then I have some questions of my own to kind of get into, but I'd like to start off the show by asking, is there anything dating related that you want to get off your chest?
	So just to give you a couple prompts, maybe you recently had a bad date experience, a bad relationship experience.
	Men are pissing you off in some way.
	Dating apps suck, whatever it may be.
	Something that just comes to mind that you want to get off your chest related to dating.
	Go ahead.
	I have a story, but it wasn't really...
	I met a guy on Hinge, and we talked for a month, and he was from Australia.
	And I met up with him, and he ended up being a dick.
	And then he went to the gym and I left.
	I was in LA and I traveled.
	I went to LA to go see him.
	she doesn't drive either so she i took the train and for like two and a half hours Met up with him, stayed the night, and I left the next day while he's at the gym.
	While he was at the gym.
	And he didn't know I left.
	I just left.
	Yeah, but was he anticipating that you were going to spend more time?
	Yeah.
	I was supposed to stay till Wednesday.
	Okay, so why did you leave?
	He just got mad when, like, if I didn't do anything with him, as in like sexual things.
	He got mad.
	He got mad.
	So you didn't want to hook up?
	Yeah.
	But you took a train two hours to.
	So you were obviously into him.
	Yeah, I was.
	We talked for like over a month before I actually met him.
	Like FaceTime or just.
	Yeah, we FaceTimed, texted, everything for like over a month.
	Seven dates, sort of.
	But okay.
	And met up with him.
	He ended up being a dick.
	And also really rude.
	Yeah, like overall just a shitty person.
	You were like, you would have, had he not been a dick, you probably would have been down to hook up.
	But when you show up, you arrive.
	Yeah, he said he was sarcastic, but it came off as really, really rude.
	Yeah.
	So you, yeah, your whole view of him shifted, and then you lost interest.
	Yeah.
	So what was he doing that was.
	He said he was sarcastic, but then every single time I would talk, he would tell me to shut the fuck up and then say he was kidding.
	Yeah, like literally, like, no die.
	And then he would shush me every single time I was talking because he thought I was yelling and then would tell me, shut the fuck up.
	And then laugh and say he was kidding.
	Wow.
	So.
	Shut your fucking mouth.
	Kind of like that.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	He was, yeah, he had like a really strong accent.
	And he was Australian.
	British and Australian, so a kind of combination of accents.
	Were you hanging out with him and his boys?
	No, he was just friends.
	It was his first time in America.
	He came to LA.
	Wait.
	Nothing.
	How did you meet him?
	Hinge, Hinge.
	Hinge.
	Yeah.
	Wait, what?
	I met him on Hinge because he put his location in London.
	So when you met him, he was in Australia.
	He put his location in LA.
	Okay, he was like preemptively trying to get some.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And when I got there, that's always kind of weird.
	The vibes were off.
	I wasn't feeling well just anxiety-wise, and he got mad.
	And so I texted someone else to pick me up, and I left while he was at the gym and never talked to him after that.
	But so did you spend the night?
	Yeah, I spent one night, and then I just didn't like it.
	Did you cuddle?
	No, he didn't really do anything.
	He tried.
	I just kept moving away.
	Oh, man, that's.
	He DM'd me on TikTok because I blocked him on everything else before he got.
	So he DMed me on TikTok.
	Did you steal his stuff?
	No.
	Oh.
	You said that kind of like you should.
	Maybe I should have.
	Maybe I should have.
	He got really mad, so I left while I was at the gym.
	Damn.
	That's.
	Yeah.
	So you were super down, but he was down, but his vibes were off when I met him.
	And yeah, so I was at the bottom.
	Two and a half hour train ride, eh?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I think.
	Yeah.
	You know the key to relationships, guys?
	Some people say it's trust, loyalty, love, commonalities, being attractive.
	No.
	Convenience is the most important thing.
	If you got to drive more than 20 minutes to see your person, I'm being a bit facetious, but I think going that far out of your way for there's plenty of eligible bachelors in Santa Barbara.
	Not really.
	I get Google.
	I get most of it every single time I meet someone.
	You think they're better in LA?
	If you can find an extra.
	I can't even think of Australians or British, like people the same.
	I can't.
	Can you just pull the cord?
	Like, so it's.
	There you go.
	Perfect.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	So, okay, wait, you guys think that you guys don't like the men in Santa Barbara.
	Oh, I have a story for you.
	Yeah, we could talk a little bit about that.
	Okay, so this is a frat boy.
	So you get the gist of it.
	Which one?
	Signu.
	Was this going to be the.
	Yeah, this is going to be the next one.
	Yeah, so basically coming back from a party, I separated with my friends, and he's like, hey, do you want to go back to the frat house?
	And I was like, sure, like, why not?
	And so he gave me a tour of the frat house, met some of his brothers.
	They were chill.
	We were just sitting on the couch in his room.
	We weren't doing anything.
	This was like just talking, chilling.
	Like, the night was dying down.
	Like, we didn't really like each other in that way.
	It was kind of more of a friendship.
	He gets a call and he puts it on speakerphone.
	So I'm like, okay, like, this is weird.
	And I just hear this dude say, bro, what are you doing right now?
	You want to go smoke some weed?
	And he's like, oh, like, this is my friend next door, ATO, is right next to Signu, right?
	So this is his ATO boy and he was like, oh, like, I'm sorry, like, not right now.
	Like, I'm kind of, like, with a girl.
	Like, we're just hanging out.
	And he was like, oh, just bang her and leave.
	And keep in mind, this is on speakerphone, you guys.
	I'm sitting two inches away from this man.
	I heard everything.
	Homeboy looks down in his phone, looks at me, and goes, I'll call you back.
	And he hangs up, and then he's like, um, are you like getting tired?
	And he was like, and he was like, are you getting tired?
	I'm like, yeah, I'm going to go back to my place.
	And he's like, oh, okay, cool, cool, cool.
	So we both leave the frat house at the same time.
	I walk back to my place and I see him just walk over to ATO, knock on the door.
	I see the mother open it and I'm like, all right.
	So that's my story.
	So basically, you're hanging out with the frat guy.
	Yep.
	You were, had you hung out with him before?
	Yes, I've hung out with him before.
	We're friends.
	Like, just like he invites us to parties.
	No, we have not hooked up.
	But you wanted to.
	You were down until this whole.
	No.
	Honestly, not at all.
	Wait, but you were hanging out with him alone?
	Yeah.
	You were interested in him.
	Come on.
	Oh, no, not really.
	He was kind of like, I think the second thought I've also met this frat guy, like, he's like the, like, he was more of the type of guy you go out to party with, have a bit of fun.
	Sure.
	He gets you into the parties and then you separate.
	She was with me that night.
	She separated.
	So we were, the four of us were together and then we went back to the frat house.
	She went somewhere else.
	So obviously that's why it was just the two of us there.
	And he was like, do you want a tour?
	And I was like, fuck it, why not?
	And that's why we ended up in his room.
	He's like, this is my room, like, super chill.
	And we're just sitting on his couch, right?
	And the phone call happened.
	I just felt like, are you fucking kidding me?
	Like, the fact that he had it on speaker too and I heard everything, like, homeboy just paused.
	He like looked at me and he's like, blinked.
	And he's like, I'll call you back, bro.
	And then just hangs up.
	And I'm like, okay.
	Do you think that they're, I mean, initially it was the guy on the phone that said some offensive things.
	So it's, you know.
	Yeah.
	I'm wondering, could the guy in person, could he have still, well, you weren't interested, allegedly, anyways.
	Yeah.
	So I mean.
	I don't know.
	I just kind of found it.
	It seemed like it worked out.
	I know.
	Yeah, that's true.
	You dipped.
	He went to smoke some weed.
	It's true.
	I think it's just like a funny story that this man was just like, just bang her and leave, bro.
	Like, come on.
	Like, do you want to smoke some weed?
	Like, just fuck her leave.
	And I was like, okay.
	It was just funny.
	Wow.
	I know.
	Damn.
	Yeah.
	Do you think he was interested in you?
	Oh, you were there?
	No, no.
	He was there.
	I'm guessing.
	I don't think so.
	I don't know, though.
	Just like, we were sitting on the couches, the two of us, and like one of his frat bros, like, hey, bro, what's up?
	And he's like, oh, nothing much.
	And he kind of like oh saw us together.
	So he probably thought like, oh, they're going to do something or like, you know, so he left like right away.
	So maybe he was a little interested.
	Yeah, maybe.
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	Good times.
	Yeah, good times.
	Luke, what do you think about that?
	I mean, I was just going to say, I don't think that that's like the dude who was getting the call's fault.
	I think that's a good idea.
	No, it's not his own.
	Yeah, that's not fully on his bro.
	Yeah, his bro.
	Why'd he be out of like that?
	Oh my god, dude.
	Come on.
	Did the guy know that you were in the room?
	Yes, he said, oh, I'm hanging out with a girl right now.
	And he was like, just bang her and leave.
	And you can hear when someone's on speaker.
	And yeah.
	Yeah, I was going to say, whenever I get a call on him with a girl, if I put it on speaker, it's to show her that, like, hey, it's just one of my guys calling.
	It's not another girl.
	Like, don't get all upset about it.
	Yeah.
	But I would always say, like, hey, I'm with, you know, whoever, say what up.
	And then they'll say, they'll be like, oh, shit.
	Okay, I'm not going to say any like weird shit.
	Yeah.
	He should have said some shit before.
	Definitely.
	But that's not on him in any way.
	That's on his bro.
	Take that.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	ATO boys, guys.
	Oh, shit.
	Shut fire.
	They were both in ATO.
	No, one was Cygnu, one was ATO.
	So the guy that I was with.
	The guy on the phone was ATO.
	Okay.
	The guy I was with, Cygnu.
	All right.
	So maybe it's just all frat men.
	So you guys are, by the way, you guys are invited on the show to clear your name.
	Okay.
	So share your side of the story.
	So we were talking a bit about, you guys said guys in Santa Barbara suck.
	Why?
	Why'd you say that?
	It's just hookup culture here.
	Like, no one's here to date.
	No one's here to be like.
	Whose fault is that?
	Hookup culture.
	It's not mine.
	Okay, so really quick, whose fault is hookup culture?
	I know a lot of men.
	A lot of men.
	A lot of men.
	I think a lot of men.
	Who controls access to sex?
	Men or women?
	I think it's like a 2%.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you need two people.
	But, I mean, not every time.
	Who decides when sex happens?
	Men or women?
	I get what you mean.
	Now it is kind of mutual in a way, but like, I think on average, more guys are invested in hookup culture than girls are.
	I think more guys are what?
	Invested in hookup culture.
	Yeah.
	But I will say it's a mutual thing.
	I agree with what you said, but I think more guys are into it.
	Wait, are you sure you're agreeing on the right thing?
	Am I?
	Well, okay, so there's a few things here.
	So I actually think more women have access to hookup culture than do men.
	Yeah, more access, but I don't think they played into it as much as guys do.
	That's a fair point.
	But so the top 20% of men, I would say, they have access to hookup culture, but average dudes, they can't very easily hook up.
	It's quite difficult for men to get laid.
	I know what you mean.
	Like an average dude, whereas an average chick, she could just download Tinder, boom, boom, boom, super easy, get laid.
	Yeah, but like, I don't think that they, like, guys love hookup culture, I feel like they love saying that they have hoes.
	They love, like, you know, IV guys are dirty.
	Like, well, it comes down to, so men and women's sexual strategy is different.
	And it comes down to evolutionary reasons.
	Like, men, evolutionary, we just want to spread the seed.
	Because we can just, we can impregnate three women a day.
	But a woman, like, if you get pregnant, that's nine months time.
	Yeah.
	Obviously, I realize most people, when they're engaging in sex, it's not for procreation necessarily, but that's still ingrained in us.
	It's hardwired in our evolutionary, in our evolution, in our biology.
	So for men, it's just spread the seed.
	And then for women, it's let me lock down the best man I can get.
	So, but going back to what I initially said, like, so women control access to sex.
	So, like, I could ask, like, how long has a guy ever made you wait for sex?
	I don't think so.
	No.
	I don't think so.
	No.
	Men.
	Have you guys ever made a guy wait for sex?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So you guys control access to sex.
	I think men need to be more clear on what they want.
	Men need to be what?
	More clear on what they want.
	Men can't be more clear on what they want.
	They need to be more clear.
	It wouldn't work.
	guys okay so if guys were I'll actually I'll let you go Ben and I'll respond Go ahead.
	Some guys, they just want to hook up, but then they treat a girl like they want more.
	I was going to say the same thing.
	Like, men need to act accordingly.
	I once had a guy take me on dates.
	I met his coworkers.
	He treated me like he wanted to be with me, and then he said he didn't want anything more than just hooking up.
	Can you scoot the microphone a bit to your that way?
	Thanks.
	So after like weeks.
	So, I mean, there's two things there.
	One, yes, there's definitely guys that they're going to play like they want something serious to get laid.
	Because, I mean, the thing is, though, is most men can't be honest about their true intentions because then you wouldn't want to fuck with them.
	I mean, I think like the whole point, like you should be honest.
	Like, they like that.
	There's no, I can.
	Like, that doesn't make sense.
	Sneaky links don't go out in public and go out to eat.
	And that just, I don't think that's it.
	I feel like you don't have to be honest with your words.
	Just be honest with your actions.
	Like, don't be like taking girls out on dates.
	Like, if you don't want to date her, like, if you just want to hook up with her, like, sometimes, like, maybe it's like a mutual thing, and like, if they're fine with it, that's fine.
	But, like, if you don't want to date her, but you're taking her on dates, like, that's being dishonest.
	Yeah.
	That's what pisses me off the most.
	Do you think girls do that too, though?
	Because I feel like a lot of times there's like a guy will take a girl out, you know, wanting something, and she won't, like, let's say it's just for hookup, but she's just friend zoning him, and she's just, you know, kind of using him to either be get into clubs or get food or have him buy you clothes or stuff like that.
	I think there's a lot of that too.
	I've always straight up there's there are, and again, there's exceptions, right?
	You know, I think being straight up with someone is way better, but there are people that, you know, are going to use people with money.
	And a lot of times it's going to be a girl using a guy for his money.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's way more common.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Foodie calls.
	Foodie calls is the thing.
	Like girls will just go out with a guy for free food for their reason.
	I actually very recently, there's some girl I saw on Hinge, and she in her bio, she said something about, I want someone to take me out to dinner.
	And she was like, I matched with her to actually invite her on the show.
	So I was kind of doing the finesse too, I guess.
	But she was like really pushing, oh, I'll come on the show, but first, can you take me for dinner?
	Really pushing for a dinner.
	I'm like, are you that pressed for a dinner?
	But there are definitely, there are definitely, I think on the guys' side, you're going to encounter women that they are not genuinely themselves pursuing something serious if they even meet up with you.
	Maybe they just want a free dinner.
	Some chicks will just, they're bored.
	They're broke.
	They're hungry.
	I guess I'll go out on a date with this dude.
	And then there, I mean, there's also a lot of women on Hinge that or on dating apps that they're like just they have no intention of even meeting up with the guy ever.
	They just want some validation.
	They're promoting their Instagram Cash app, whatever it is.
	Like, so I think on both sides, there's definitely some.
	That last one's like kind of me.
	Hold on, but not like intentionally.
	You have your Cash app in your dating.
	No, no, no.
	I just like, I've never met up with anyone on Tinder or Hinge.
	Like the whole time I've been in the middle of the day.
	How long have you?
	How long have you had dating?
	It's not just you.
	It's not just you.
	It's been like a month or two.
	So you've the first ever dating app you've had was two months ago.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Wait, so who, so reminder, just who's been on a dating app?
	Okay.
	Who's been on a date met someone in person from a dating app?
	Okay.
	So.
	Yeah.
	I'm not saying date, but fair enough.
	Fair enough.
	Wait, so I'm trying to remember where we were going with all that.
	Oh, I was talking about people like you.
	Yeah.
	yeah it's okay yeah you were talking about the hookup culture and how yeah It's like.
	Well, yeah, because mostly on there, like, everyone just wants to hook up.
	Anyways, so like, that's not what I want.
	So you got, so what was your original point that you dislike hookup culture?
	Yeah.
	I'm trying to remember.
	Yeah, no, I don't like hookup.
	have you ever hooked up with anyone like from like just in person from an app whatever maybe Like fully hooking up, I guess one person in like my body count is two.
	So I've hooked up with one person and then the other person was my long-term boyfriend, so I don't hook up.
	Okay, that's fair.
	I met up with someone last week.
	But yeah, I mean, so as far as the whole hookup culture, I mean, if that, I would say that for hookup culture to stop being a thing, you might not like this, but I think women are going to have to say, I'm not going to have sex with anyone until I'm in a long-term relationship with, or sorry, not long-term, but a serious relationship.
	Because I think, I mean, if you, well, I would also say that there are definitely guys out there.
	If you make them wait, they'll wait.
	They'll hook up with you once and then probably ghost you.
	So it's like, girls are, I will admit, girls are kind of in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
	Like, okay, hook up too soon, then maybe a guy might judge you for that.
	But then if you wait too long, then you're going to start, maybe you're going to catch feelings for a guy, then you hook up, and then he got what he wanted, and then he's going to dip too.
	So it's like, it's tough for girls.
	I'm not really sure actually kind of what the solution is.
	I've hung out with people like within the past few weeks, like a guy, like at night, and we're saying hang out.
	We don't do anything, they don't try anything, and then they ghost me.
	So I'm like, they didn't get what they wanted, or it's just me.
	Yeah, I mean, I would also say that the other thing, too, is if you once you hook up with a guy, so I think credit to Myron from Fresh and Fit.
	So I think it's something like as far as each gender's metric for success.
	So a man's job is attaining women, obtaining women.
	Women's job is to retain.
	So if we can just get laid, that's kind of like we've succeeded.
	But for women, your sort of metric of success is retaining the guys that you sleep with.
	So in order to do that, like, how can you do that?
	If all you're bringing to the table is sex, you got to think about, okay, how can I add value to this guy's life?
	That's where I think a lot of women get in trouble, where they get stuck in hookup culture.
	If you're not adding value in some other way besides sex, then guys are not going to take you seriously.
	It's why it's hard though, because like you've, or like so many people, like even what you said back before, no matter who starts it, everyone's still kind of like invested in it now.
	Like even taking back how like who perpetrates it.
	So when you actually kind of do want to take a step back and try to find someone who you maybe want to have something long-term with, it's usually really hard or they have misconceptions going in that it's not going to be long term, which I think is what makes it difficult in IV, especially.
	I know what you mean, yeah.
	Like I feel like everyone says like, oh, you're dating an IV guy.
	No, it's the same.
	Yeah.
	I also feel like when you're saying that like sometimes it's like retaining a guy like beyond just sex, sometimes like the guy does not get like make any effort to get to know like the girl at all.
	Like they're going into it like just for sex and they are like yeah, like I said, they're not making like any effort beyond that.
	Like they're not trying to like talk to you.
	Like maybe they'll like text you, but it's just to hook up.
	And then like when you actually try and talk about stuff, they'll just like change the topic.
	I actually have something like, I mean, I'm a little disagree on that, but because like I've been listening to like what you guys said and I also feel like when it comes to dating app, there's a really straightforward solution, which is just ask for like, what are you looking for?
	You know, and like you guys also mentioned that if you if guys just want sex, they can just like, you know, we can just go straight into the doom.
	But also like, I feel like guys and girls are pretty much the same.
	Like our girls wanted to be treated nicely, just like, for example, like in my personal experience, like I will message guy and say like, oh, what's her, what are you looking for?
	And if they're just looking for sex, like we will still go on dates, you know, go to a nice dinner and like have a great day and like we will just split our bills.
	And at the end of the day, like we will have a great sex.
	So I feel like that's also a plus.
	So one solution, I think, it will be just straightforward and ask what they want.
	Guys are still going to lie though if you ask them.
	If you ask like what they're looking for, they're still probably.
	Because I think most guys, if guys, that's the thing.
	If guys say, you know what, I'm just looking for something really casual.
	I just maybe hook up a couple times.
	I think a lot of women are not.
	If you're just straight up like that, hey, do you want to just hook up?
	Most women are probably going to say no.
	Some will.
	I think it's very rare.
	Some will.
	But I think, I mean, we could ask the table.
	Like, if a guy just straight up came up to you.
	I mean, I got a bumble texted at DTF.
	That's all I got.
	Yeah.
	And so what was your response to that?
	I was like, down.
	Okay, fair enough.
	I never responded after that.
	I never responded to that.
	Oh, but you didn't actually.
	Okay.
	But so you said down.
	Did he respond to that?
	He said, you got a place?
	And then I just never responded.
	What if he was, like, come over to mine?
	Would you have been...
	Depends on the day.
	Depends on the day.
	I guess it's the end of the day.
	Fair enough.
	Did you want to continue on your point a bit?
	Oh, no.
	I'm going to go.
	Okay, you finish.
	Okay, cool, cool.
	Are we all supposed to answer that question?
	What was the question?
	If they text you, like, DTF or whatever.
	Sure, yeah.
	Probably.
	Yeah, I'll say, yeah.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	I wouldn't say that.
	First message on the dating app or in person, a guy just walks up to you, hey, do you want to have sex with me?
	Okay, no, never mind.
	I can't answer.
	Hold up.
	I wasn't thinking.
	No.
	A few weeks ago, I had a guy just walk up to me.
	I don't know him.
	I was drunk.
	And he's like, want to make out?
	And I was like, sure.
	I mean, I'll walk away and never talk to him after that.
	Okay.
	So a guy walks up to you at a party and he's just like, hey, what's up?
	I think you're cute.
	Like, do you want to hook up tonight?
	I would say no.
	I always say no.
	No.
	I like have a huge fear of rejection.
	So like, no.
	I'd feel like it was a joke.
	You'd have a huge fear of rejection.
	Yeah.
	I feel like I'd just walk away.
	I'd do that anyway, but I'd walk away from that especially fast.
	Honestly, like, if a guy did that, it kind of sounds like it was either like a prank or a dance.
	No, I would think that one of them put it up.
	Like, they like asked me.
	What if he stepped to you and he was, he didn't come off like he was joking.
	Like, it seemed authentic.
	He authentically wants to have sex with you.
	I don't.
	What's the setting?
	What's the place?
	I authentically think he's joking because I don't know.
	I feel like I just walk away.
	That's my response.
	Okay.
	Really, just depending on my mood.
	Yeah, right?
	All right, Luke, what would you do?
	A dude?
	No, I'm kidding.
	A girl walks up to you and she's like, hey, do you want to have sex at a party or something?
	Are you down?
	It depends.
	It honestly depends, genuinely.
	I don't know.
	I tell all my friends this.
	I'm like, if I'm going to IV, I'm not going there to find someone to hook up with.
	Fuck that.
	I'm there to party.
	I'm there to jump around.
	Do some stupid shit.
	I don't know.
	Have fun out there.
	It doesn't have to be like sex all the time.
	So yeah, I do think it's, I do think it's, it's all situational.
	Yeah.
	Plus, I mean, where are you going to do it in IV?
	Their place.
	Yeah.
	Their loft.
	Their one-size-fits-all.
	It's a win-sized bed.
	Win-size bed.
	There are like two roommates.
	We're going to do some super chats and then we're going to react to a video that is related to this topic here.
	So hold on, let me pull these up.
	We have big Chase with the 11-11.
	Thank you, man.
	Much appreciated.
	Looking forward to hearing some more bass takes from young Luke Skywalker.
	The bros need him to bring the balance force.
	Also, shout out to Brian the Goat.
	Hey, Chase.
	Thank you for the super chat, man.
	Appreciate the support.
	Good to see you in chat, man.
	Let's get you back on the show, Chase.
	We got to make it happen, man.
	Jordan, okay.
	The butterflies don't love it.
	Okay.
	I mean, yeah, just a reminder guys, $10 and up.
	Virgo with the $10 super chat.
	There are plenty of good guys in Santa Barbara.
	The girls are just fighting over the same top 10% of catches.
	Media is to blame because everyone now expects perfection.
	Dating was better before socials.
	Do you guys have a response?
	I think it was better before socials.
	100%.
	I mean, the best relationship I've been, not saying best, but like the ones that have gone-ish, good.
	They've been in person.
	So.
	Yeah.
	I feel like it's beyond even socials.
	It's just kind of like celebrities in general.
	Like you see like all these like edited photos of people who are like stunning.
	And I think whenever you see anybody in real life, like if you're too caught up in it, you're just not.
	Yeah.
	It's just not going to be the same.
	Because like you're exposed to like so many people in a day.
	And like, I don't know.
	Like it's weird on TikTok.
	You can see like stunning people like one after the other.
	And I don't know.
	It's like overwhelming.
	I think also about like dating with socials, like for me, whenever I'm like texting someone, like it just feels so ingenuine.
	Like I could be having the exact same conversation to their face and it would be a hundred times different than if I'm just reading it off of my phone like in a snap or in a DM.
	Agree with that.
	Yeah, definitely.
	I mean, I think, also, my kind of rule for texting is I think texting should be limited to making plans.
	Yeah.
	Like I don't think you should be having long.
	First of all, I don't have time for having a proper conversation over text.
	I mean, there could be a little banter here and there.
	Like a little bit's okay, but having a full, because a conversation that would otherwise take an hour to play out over text message could be accomplished in five minutes in person.
	So just from like a time management person, I don't have time to be like constantly texting with somebody.
	So that's a good point.
	Also, like, I'm not trying to get to know you like through text.
	Like, what are you supposed to, like, then it just feels like you're writing like some bio or like, like, or like a resume, like, oh, I do this, I do this.
	It's like, well, you could just talk to them in person.
	And then it'd be like so much more like he'd be able to like talk back or like just jump in.
	And it's just, I don't know, text, like getting to know someone over text is honestly, I hate it.
	It's the worst.
	Some people are just like shit texters and like actually get out talking.
	Like I know so many more people who like cannot talk through text.
	Like it's like I refuse to.
	Can you give us an example?
	I don't know if you can like recite the conversation, but like how would that look to you when someone's a shitty texter?
	Is it just slow responses?
	Is it just basically like super monotone?
	Like if you like ask like, hey, how was your day?
	I don't even want to talk for that long, but if you're just going to be like, okay.
	Oh, like one word for you.
	Or W-Y-D-T-N-T-R-N-L-K.
	W-Y-D-R-N.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I'm just not a big texter anymore.
	I think you can just be so easily misconstrued over text.
	It's like if I say one thing, I don't know a perfect example for this, but I'll say something and I'll be meaning to have like a playful or like happy tone.
	They'll take it as like some weird shit.
	I'm like, that's not what I meant.
	Whereas if you're actually talking to them face to face, you have that physical connection where there's like, oh, I know what you're saying.
	I can see what you're conveying here.
	I hate Snapchat.
	Snapchat.
	I use it.
	I use Snapchat.
	I use it.
	I'll be like, hey, how's your day?
	They send a picture, don't say anything.
	Yeah, I hate that.
	No, I'm trying to have a conversation and you don't let me.
	I like Snapchat because I always send videos to people so that our conversations are all videos.
	Yeah, because I'm like, oh, this is what I'm doing right now.
	It's just a lot more mini-blank texting.
	Yeah.
	I'll use the voice audio thing sometimes.
	I feel like that's a little bit better, but yeah.
	And I'm trying to get into that.
	You can't be funny through text either.
	Sarcasm doesn't work very well.
	For real.
	It can, like, if you know each other like that.
	Yeah.
	If you know each other's humor.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's why dating apps, I think, are so hard too.
	Because like, I can't tell if you're funny or not through text either.
	It just doesn't come off, right?
	Good times.
	Wait, so I do want to go back to the whole like hookup thing for a little bit here.
	So you guys said it's like really hard to find guys that want something serious is that.
	Yeah.
	So do you guys talked a little bit about asking guys what they're looking for.
	So what are you guys looking for currently?
	Honestly, I don't even think I'm really like looking anymore.
	If I have happened.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Same here.
	100%.
	Like I'm not actively like being like, oh, I need to find a boyfriend.
	But it's just like, oh, like whatever happens, happens.
	I don't trust men.
	Particularly my last relationship from my last relationship.
	It was.
	It's still trash now.
	Wait, so okay, but you so you guys are saying you don't know what you're looking for.
	I think it's more like we've given up.
	You've given up.
	I didn't give an up.
	Whatever happens, happens mentality.
	It usually happens without me looking forward and it goes decent.
	Can I get to, I want to ask you guys, would you guys say that you're jaded with dating or men?
	Men.
	I don't think so.
	Not for me, though.
	But I don't know.
	Well, I mean, you said that you've had enough.
	What was the given?
	You've given up.
	So are you jaded?
	It's okay.
	If you are, that's fine.
	I'm just, I'm asking.
	I don't know.
	Pull the mic closer towards you.
	Sorry, it was adjusting.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, you can scoot in, by the way, if you want.
	I don't think I have an answer.
	I can't really.
	Oh, it's good.
	No, you're good.
	You're good.
	Okay.
	I've just been from like past relationships, I've been turned off from men and dating.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I was a rough one.
	Australia guy, okay.
	Yeah, like my last relationship, I got cheated on.
	So obviously.
	Oh, tweens.
	Obviously, like that kind of thing.
	Escimosis.
	That put me off for like a little bit.
	But yeah, I'm not really looking.
	Like if it happens, it happens.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Anybody else want to come in on this?
	I don't know.
	I feel like I'm kind of mentally unstable and I kind of don't want to put someone else through that.
	I'm out of joy.
	No, I'm like, I've decided this.
	Yeah, I feel like I'm not.
	Hold on, hold on.
	You're mentally unstable.
	So, what bipolar BPD, what do you got?
	No, I'm not sure.
	Do you have diagnosis?
	I don't have diagnosis.
	Yeah, actually, let's just go around the table.
	What are your diagnosed mental illnesses?
	I'll go first.
	You go first.
	I have ghosted about five therapists and psychiatrists.
	I have, I've only ever gotten diagnosed with depression and anxiety, but I don't really go enough to get more diagnosis.
	Okay.
	For you?
	Depression, anxiety, panic attacks, EDs.
	Pretty open about it.
	ED?
	Eating disorder?
	Yeah.
	Anybody else?
	Any BPD?
	Self-diagnosis.
	Bipolar.
	Okay.
	Wow, okay.
	Well, thank you guys for the honesty there.
	Wait, so, but I.
	I am an open book about.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, I guess my question is: because you guys were saying, well, you're tired of hookup culture, but you don't know what you're looking for.
	A lot of trauma.
	Wait, really quick.
	Who's jaded?
	I don't know if we really had anyone.
	Would anyone consider themselves jaded with dating?
	No?
	Okay, fine.
	Fair enough.
	Fair enough.
	But so, okay, as far as going back to what you guys are looking for, I think what you guys are going to have to do if you want to date a guy that's not going to just want something super casual, if you do want something serious, you're probably going to have to avoid guys who party.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	100%.
	Yeah.
	So if they're going out to IV, if they're partying every weekend.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	It's not so much a.
	I think people should be free to party.
	100%.
	I don't know if it's a red flag.
	It's just they're probably not in a state to, they're probably not going to be a great potential prospect for long-term commitment.
	Yeah.
	So, but correspondingly also, are you guys willing to stop partying yourself?
	Yeah.
	I mean, like, when I have a guy, yeah, but I'm not like, I'm not, like, looking for a guy, so I'm not going to, like, make it.
	Yeah, like, when I party, like, I'm with my friends.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	My girlfriends.
	Like, you know, we're having a great time.
	So.
	Yeah.
	When I'm going out with parties, like, I'm just going out with my friends, trying to have a good time, like, with my friends.
	Honestly, sometimes like guys bring the mood down, and I'm like, hey, like, do you want to dip and go somewhere else?
	Guys bring the mood down.
	What do you mean?
	Like, well, it's just like if you're trying to get out of the way, yeah, go out with the girls.
	You're pre-gaming with the girls, like getting ready with the girls, and you're just there for like good music and each other.
	And you're not even looking to talk to anyone else.
	Like, you just want maybe some good music, the environment.
	Yeah.
	I've had a guy tell me to get back into the kitchen once.
	That was funny.
	Yeah.
	Do you guys want to respond to this, by the way?
	SSRI pussy is best, though, not gonna lie.
	No, you know what?
	Hey, I think this is Tanner.
	He's been on the show.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Sorry, who's speaking?
	I didn't mean to cut you off there.
	What does it say?
	I can't see it.
	Oh, SSRI, Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor, the antidepressant drugs.
	SSRI pussy is best, though, not gonna lie.
	Yeah, the first singular hookup I had.
	He was my friend.
	Well, we're still friends, but yeah, he told me I was the best.
	Okay, baby.
	I mean, I don't know.
	Okay, but so you were saying like going out to the parties and stuff.
	Okay.
	So would you if you were starting to talk to a guy and you were interested in him and you were angling for a serious committed relationship with him and he said I'm willing to be monogamous with you, but you cannot party anymore.
	Would you like what do you pick the guy or do you pick the party?
	Do you go with them?
	You go with him to the party.
	What if he doesn't want to party?
	Yeah, then you don't go.
	To the parties?
	Yeah.
	If like for you, okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like, I feel like.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, you go ahead and we'll get to you.
	Like, honestly, like, you should just like let me do my own thing, but also like know like I'm not going to hook up with other people.
	Like there's that level of trust that they should have with you and each other.
	Let me ask you a question though.
	So you said in your last relationship you were cheated on, correct?
	Yes.
	Do you know the context of how you were cheated on?
	Did he cheat on you at a party?
	Yes.
	He met the girl at the party.
	Yeah.
	Do you think alcohol was involved?
	Yes.
	In his infidelity?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So is it okay?
	So is it fair to say that when you're put in situations where there's alcohol and a bunch of people and drugs and partying that the likelihood of infidelity is increased?
	Honestly, yes.
	Okay.
	But as like me, like I could be drunk off my ass, but I'm not like, oh my god, I'm going to go hook up with that guy.
	Like when I was in a relationship, obviously I'm not looking to do that.
	But I mean, do you think that most cheating occurs in situations where there's alcohol involved?
	Yes.
	Or drugs.
	Or drugs.
	Go ahead.
	I think, yeah, but at the end of the day, cheaters are going to cheat.
	Like they wanted there.
	If they want to cheat, they're going to do it anyways.
	And that's why when I actually start talking to someone, I like say like, I don't care what the fuck you do.
	Like, you can go out and party or whatever.
	Like, if you want to cheat, though, like, just break up with me.
	Like, break up and go with whoever you want.
	Like, there's just no point in.
	Yeah.
	There's no point in me like parenting you, policing you.
	Yeah, like drunk sayings, drunk actions are just sober thoughts.
	Unless you're blocked out.
	Oh, yeah.
	So, wait, I was going around the table on something.
	Did everyone get an opportunity to?
	I don't remember what it was.
	Yeah, no, so the question was, you're starting to see this guy.
	Would you stop partying?
	He's got to like do that on purpose.
	He's on the stream.
	Yeah, he's watching the story.
	He's watching the stream.
	Oh my god, so the question just was: you're talking to a guy, you're interested in him, he's interested in you.
	You bring up, hey, I want to take it to the next step.
	I want us to be monogamous.
	I want it to be boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever.
	And he says, yes, I'm down, but I don't want you to go into bars or bars, clubs, or parties anymore.
	Honestly.
	Do you say, do you say, yes, I want to be with you, or sorry, you're not going to control me.
	I'm going to keep partying.
	Oh, did you go?
	No, you go.
	Sorry.
	Well, one, I work at a bar, so I can't really, like, stop being at the place I work.
	Oh, sorry.
	Sorry.
	But also, I think I do that like subconsciously, like, without even them asking me to.
	Like, when I was in my long-term relationship, like, I didn't really go out much.
	Like, I spent most of my time with him.
	So, yeah, I would.
	I would not go with the guy.
	I see, I mean, I've seen it mainly in like long-distance relationships where it's the guy telling the girl she cannot go out.
	And she is miserable.
	Like, she like.
	Miserable?
	Well, I wouldn't say miserable.
	That was a little bit of an exaggeration.
	I do exaggerate quite a bit.
	But like, all her friends are getting ready, going out, going out like an IV, just like having fun.
	And she'll just be like sitting at home by herself.
	And, like, yeah, she has her, like, boyfriend to talk to, I guess.
	But at the same time, it's, like, she can go out with her girlfriend.
	Yeah.
	Like her roommates.
	Like you need to trust her.
	Like I think I think that honestly, if a guy says like you cannot go out, then it's a little bit of a red flag because it's kind of like he has some trust issues.
	Like he doesn't trust me.
	That's a good point.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	In my last relationship that I was in, it was really controlling to the point where she didn't want me to do anything.
	And I would tell her, like, listen, you know, I've been cheated on before.
	I know it's fucked up.
	It's kind of the same gig too.
	Right.
	Not good.
	And if you think I'm going to cheat on you, then this is already not going to work because there's no trust.
	If I was going to do something, which I already have proven that I never would, like, this would already be over.
	There's no, and vice versa.
	That's what I'm expecting as well.
	And one of my friends, I actually want to get your guys' opinions on this.
	So one of my friends is dating this girl and they love each other very much.
	They just moved away to college.
	One's in Colorado and I think the other one is in Texas or Southern California.
	I forget.
	Their agreement is that they're allowed, if they can go out and they can sleep with someone else, but I know, I know, I know.
	But if they sleep with the same person twice or it gets excessive, it's immediately over.
	Wait, so who propositioned this?
	The guy or the girl?
	The guy.
	Oh, I think actually, I'm actually not 100% sure.
	It could have been the guy.
	Again, my friend, I don't see why he would do that because that's not like him.
	But I also don't really know the girl.
	So it could have gone either way.
	Cheating in general sucks.
	No, I know.
	I know.
	But their whole thing is like they want to keep their relationship, but they also don't want to be controlled by the other person when they're like 200 miles away or more.
	I have the last strings of that.
	Like, you're just trying to hold it together.
	You just want to go fuck other people.
	You just want to validate the guy, whoever brought up.
	I'm going to do this.
	I'm going to allow you to do it.
	I mean, I respect that.
	You want to go do that, but I don't think you should be together without anything.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I mean, personally, I think the extent that that should go to is like, you can go to a party.
	You can talk to other people.
	That's what it was.
	Hooking up.
	The whole thing is like, if I get drunk and I accidentally fuck up and sleep with someone, are you really going to be that mad?
	And I asked him, I'm like, dude, how would you really feel about that?
	Like, your girl getting dogged.
	And it's some like accident.
	And he was like, well, I think it's fine.
	I'm like, okay, bro.
	You're fucking losing on that one.
	That's a yikes.
	Cheating in everything.
	It is bad.
	It really hurts someone from experience.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So just back to the original thing.
	So I don't know if you had an opportunity to answer it.
	The whole like, if your potential future boyfriend's like, hey, I don't want you to go out anymore.
	Do you say yes or sorry?
	Oh, hell no.
	Like, don't restrict my freedom.
	I won't restrict yours.
	I'll never ask to go through your phone.
	I don't want anything.
	I don't even need your location, but you have, what I do is what I do.
	Okay.
	Same.
	I think it really just depending on like how farther you are in in this relationship and what's the reason that like potential boyfriends are like wanting to go out Okay.
	So would you guys be okay with your boyfriend going to the strip club?
	I almost went with my last boyfriend.
	He wanted to go and I said sure.
	He wanted to go to a menu.
	He went by himself or with his friends.
	No.
	Oh.
	I got invited.
	Okay, we're going to go around the table on the question.
	Would you have an issue with it?
	My next boyfriend actually did go to the strip club.
	Your last boyfriend?
	Yes, the one that's.
	And he was.
	Okay.
	He like is like, hey, me and the boys are going to go to the strip club.
	But like, and I was like, okay, why?
	And they're like, they just want to check it out like real quick.
	And like, he sent me like him holding like a bunch of ones.
	And I was like, okay, have fun.
	Throw some ones for me.
	And honestly, like, okay, this was like a school, not a school trip, but this was like a senior trip.
	No, no, this was a senior trip.
	No, this was like a senior trip of high school.
	You know, like the summer after senior year ended, everyone goes like on a trip.
	Like your class goes.
	Like grad week.
	Yeah, grad, something like that.
	So like a lot of people are there, but I wasn't there.
	So yeah.
	So wait, this was like a foreign strip club that they went to?
	No, no, no.
	This is Hawaii.
	Like the Grad Week Hawaii.
	Yeah, okay.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Dude.
	That's it.
	What are your guys' opinions on that?
	Like, I was just like, oh, that's.
	We have a chat here for you, by the way.
	Oh, let me see.
	PTA.
	You'd be a good soccer mom.
	Thank you so much.
	I actually really like that.
	I'll shoot my kids off the floor.
	Wait, so you would not have an issue with your boyfriend going to the strip club?
	Okay, to be honest, I was an idiot.
	I thought he was joking.
	And then after that, I was like, oh, he actually went.
	But I know he didn't do anything because I'm like, I know his friends.
	And they're too weird to do anything.
	They're too weird.
	They deadass were in there for like two minutes.
	I think they said that they were in there for like five minutes and left because it was too hot.
	Yeah.
	Like, that's literally it.
	So I knew like nothing like happened.
	But okay, like let's say.
	So that is a scenario that happened.
	But would you have an issue with your boyfriend going to the strip club?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Did he?
	Oh, sorry.
	I feel like I guess it kind of depends, but like, I don't think I'd like encourage it, you know?
	Like, it wouldn't be something I'm like, yeah, for sure, but I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I don't think I'd like that.
	You would not like it if your boyfriend went to the strip club.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	I think no, but like there are some cases where I'd say like if it was okay, like maybe if he like I want to revise the question a little bit.
	Let me just ask.
	How often do you guys go out every weekend to party?
	About Thursday, Friday, Saturday?
	Friday, Saturday.
	Friday, Saturday.
	Okay.
	Maybe not tonight.
	Okay.
	So your boyfriend goes to the strip club two times a week.
	No.
	No, no, no.
	Is this like a ritual thing?
	Go ahead.
	He's like a regular.
	I mean, if he wants to go, he can, but like.
	Sure.
	I don't know why you'd want.
	Like, what do you give me?
	You got a girl already.
	What do you mean?
	If you want to see her, like, go have fun.
	Go throw one.
	Like, I don't go through ones.
	I don't think I would mind.
	I mean, you wouldn't mind?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I think it's because where I come from, like, I just never experienced this.
	Like, I personally wanted to go and just see what's good.
	I saw that.
	Yeah.
	I want to see Magic Mike.
	Here's another question.
	Would you have an issue with a guy paying for another girl's only fans while dating you?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	If he was paying for a girl's only fans.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Unless it's like.
	I mean, again, extreme circumstances, like maybe he's just like really trying to like support her.
	Like he was like supporting her like before we were together and he's just trying to be a good guy and get her through college.
	But so you guys all have an issue with that, but you would still, you yourself, you want to go out to party and club.
	So but and you guys were kind of talking about I wouldn't want someone to limit me in that way or to control me in that way, but I suspect you'd want to prevent your boyfriend from doing those things.
	If he's paying for it, then he's really trying to get it.
	But also like a strip club, like you're going for the girls.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I don't see why else you'd go to a strip club.
	The drinks.
	Like a bachelor party.
	Yeah.
	I'd be like, okay, yeah, hop on.
	Like it was like a group thing and he just got dragged along.
	I mean, I would say that the likelihood of a guy going to a strip club and being able to sleep with one of the strippers is lower than a guy coming up to you at a party.
	Like part, like hooking up with people, hooking up with people at bars, clubs, or parties is fairly common.
	But most customers cannot sleep with the strippers.
	Yeah, but I had a friend.
	They'll pay for it, maybe.
	My ex's friend was staying with us.
	I lived with Max.
	He was staying with us with his girlfriend.
	And while his girlfriend was asleep, he snuck off, went to a strip club, paid a stripper.
	They had sex in her car, and he went back to her and acted like nothing.
	Yeah, a lot of the strippers escort, but he paid.
	Yeah.
	Like 400 bucks.
	But it's never going to be a lot of girl that wasn't his girlfriend.
	He was asleep and he just snuck off at my house and just went to.
	Yeah, definitely.
	A lot of dancers, a lot of strippers, they're not allowed to.
	They won't sleep with a customer for love, but they'll do it for money.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but it's still just.
	Go ahead.
	I think the point is guys go to strip clubs to look at women and like.
	You don't go to parties for male attention?
	I don't go.
	Like I go with my friends.
	Like the whole point is like me going with my friends.
	Couldn't you just hang out at someone's house and just drink and watch the bachelor's?
	Like, yeah, we do that too, but sometimes like going out to the club is the movie.
	So I guess the point I'm trying to make is that when you guys go out, do guys approach you and hit on you?
	But even when I'm not going out, like I'll be walking to freaking the corner store.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	But I would say that whereas you could go to Trader Joe's or go about your day, there's like maybe a guy will come and talk to you, but it's probably less likely than you getting approached at a bar or club or a party.
	Like it's a foregone conclusion if a girl goes to a party, like probably some dude's going to hit on her.
	Try to dance with her or something like that.
	Like it's going to happen.
	And it's a very, whereas if you're going to Trader Joe's, like the intention there is to go get groceries.
	But if you go to a party, the intention there, like you're intentionally going to a social gathering.
	You go to the bar or club.
	It's a social gathering.
	People meet each other.
	Yeah, but the attention is to party, not to, like, I mean, some people do go to, like, find someone, but the intention is to party with it.
	You're going to see a stripper, like your intention is to see like fucking some titties.
	Some ass and some titties.
	Well, I guess I'll sort of try to, we're going to move on from this soon.
	But what I would say is that part of being in a long-term relationship is closing off your options.
	You can't keep your options open when you're in a relationship.
	So My position is, is that if you're going to, in the same way that you should probably get off of dating apps if you're in a relationship, that would be keeping your options open.
	I think that going to parties, bars, and clubs is whether you have, you could be super loyal, have no intention of it.
	To some degree, it's still sort of like you are keeping your options open if you go to these environments.
	I disagree.
	Yeah, I disagree.
	Because you will, but you're going to be hit on.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Disagree.
	I have a, me and Vivi have a friend, and she, once in a while, will come out with us.
	She'll come with her boyfriend.
	Yeah.
	There recently was a party.
	I don't know if you guys went.
	It was, you wear a certain color depending on if you're single, compliment.
	The red light?
	Yeah, stop.
	Me and Vivi were all green, and my friend wore red.
	And that was definitely, I mean, that was a different situation of like you're indicating that you're taking whatever.
	But her personally, that's just the one person that comes out with us who's in a relationship.
	She ignores everyone.
	No one ever really comes up to her.
	She's very much in her girl group.
	She doesn't go off to talk to anyone.
	And you reject them.
	Yeah, you're like, she backs up.
	Every time someone tried to talk to come up to us and talk, she would back away and kind of hide behind.
	Yeah, I literally would stand in front of her and be like, no.
	You would tell people, like, yo, back the fuck off.
	Like, you're not getting anything.
	Chat, should I do the Dream World hypothetical scenario here?
	Oh, shit.
	Verx, thank you for all the gifted memberships.
	Unfortunately, in StreamYard, I'm not sure it doesn't, I don't think it allows us to pull it up, unfortunately.
	But Verx, let me just acknowledge you and give you a big shout out.
	Jesus, my hair is fucking scuffed.
	Hold on, guys.
	I have to get a f***ing hat.
	Do I do the pickle haba?
	One for the picklehaba.
	World War I, guys, not World War II.
	Or the just the U.S. flag hat.
	Two for the U.S. flag hat.
	But Verx, thank you for the gifted memberships, man.
	Much appreciated.
	You're a legend.
	Where was I?
	Okay, so I don't even remember what the ones and twos were.
	The one was the air hat up here.
	The other one.
	Luke, you're wearing the picklehaba.
	All right, can you fit your weapons?
	Put it on us, Eric.
	Oh, God.
	Mike Davis.
	Mike Davis is in the chat Yo.
	Mike Davis.
	We've got this vigil here for you.
	I don't know if you notice the candles, man.
	Also, we have the BBC, the big black clock.
	If you can just hide that just for a second, Eric, while I just show him the BBC.
	We'll pull it back up.
	Yeah, that's, and by the way, if you note the time, it's at, well, okay.
	So Mike Davis, good to see you, man.
	Yeah, dude, you've been, we haven't seen you as frequently in the show, so I wanted to do a little vigil for you.
	Can we get some scandal, some scandals, some candles for Mr. Mike Davis?
	But Mike Davis, thank you for the soup chat.
	Let me just, let me do some soup chats right now while I have it ready.
	What's that?
	You feel honored to be.
	Yeah, since he's been gone.
	Mike Davis, what's good, fam?
	Just tuning in and don't have time to stick around.
	Tonight's lineup looks like a pack of degenerates.
	someone please do community service and handle them from...
	I don't know if he even saw the...
	Mike Davis, you're not even acknowledging the...
	I'm not sure if he noticed it.
	I think he already left.
	Brian, please donate this money so she can get laser tattooed.
	Oh!
	My gangsterism with the $10 super chat.
	Thank you for the $10.
	Three covered ones.
	Do you want to fire back at if you want to pay for it?
	Go ahead.
	Pay for it and then give the tattoo.
	Exactly.
	I don't tattoo over him.
	Yeah, there's someone in the chat that was asking for you to do a tattoo check.
	Yeah, tattoo tour.
	I don't know.
	How many did we say there was?
	Like 50?
	I counted that.
	There's almost 50.
	I counted it.
	I was reading the one on your arm.
	I think that's what's really cool.
	At some point, we need to let go and move on because no matter how painful it is, it's the only way we grow.
	Doom.
	Wow.
	I fuck with that one.
	I fuck with that one.
	Does anyone else have tattoos?
	No.
	No.
	Just me?
	I have one too.
	All right, I have four.
	Oh, weird.
	Guys, can we just acknowledge how handsome Luke looks in the pickle haba?
	It's a good look, man.
	Thank you.
	I think tilt it down slightly.
	There we go.
	Okay, anyway.
	Super chat, super chat.
	Luke's tramp stamp?
	No, I'm kidding.
	Yeah, let me just get a little flash going.
	I have the gnarliest tramp stamp.
	It says boner garage.
	Jesus.
	Okay.
	Nice.
	Luke Trong with the $10 Super Chat.
	Is Leonardo DiCaprio an F-boy?
	We can ask the panel real quick, yes or no.
	I don't know much about him.
	I know he gets with younger girls.
	That's all I know.
	No, no.
	He's like 44, and I think he only women are 25 and 90.
	Yeah, I don't know much about that.
	What a fucking Chad.
	Okay.
	So, would you guys date Leonardo DiCaprio?
	Let me reframe the question.
	If he was younger, like when he was like, he's still kind of a babe, I think.
	He's not bad.
	A little out of my age range.
	And like, I mean, the status is obviously insane.
	Age is a little high for me.
	But come on, Leo.
	Even the money, maybe.
	I don't think so.
	I don't think I would.
	Other guys the same age, maybe.
	Young Leo.
	He's like the age of my dad, so no.
	Yeah.
	No.
	I think he's.
	Did you lose?
	Oh.
	You know what?
	I might be gay for Paige.
	Just saying.
	Okay.
	No, I'm kidding.
	Let's see.
	We've got, and I think, okay.
	So, oh, yeah, Dream World, a hypothetical scenario.
	Oh, God.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So we're going back to the clubbing thing a little bit here.
	Okay, just sounds good.
	So, okay.
	I'm going to create a dream world.
	Since, let's be honest, unless as a guy you're super famous, girls really don't be hitting up guys like this in the example I'm about to provide.
	In the real world, like the vast majority of men, if they go out to parties, clubs, or bars, get ignored.
	So this is a hypothetical scenario.
	So would you be okay with your long-term monogamous partner going to a nightclub, bar?
	Ooh, nice voice crack.
	Nightclub, bar, or party type environment where throughout the course of the night he's going to get approached, flirted with, and sexually pursued by numerous attractive women, some of which are more attractive than you and could potentially be a better partner than you.
	These women are buying him drinks, getting him drunk, and enthusiastically want to sleep with him that night and steal him away from you.
	He's also out with his single male friends, his manho friends, who are rallying, being a bad influence.
	By the way, you guys just had an argument earlier on in the day.
	And yeah, so would you be okay with that scenario?
	I mean, I actually would.
	Honestly, if he didn't take like the free drinks and kept on like pushing it, you can get approached.
	You can't really stop that.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	It's like a yes over.
	Yeah.
	I guess it'd be fine.
	As long as he doesn't pursue anything.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	As long as there's no actions being taken, then also maybe he should drop his friends.
	Yeah.
	I say that's you guys wouldn't mind that.
	If nothing actually happens, I don't see anything.
	That level of trust.
	Yeah, there have to be a few.
	Yeah.
	Well, we don't know if anything's happening, but I mean, those things are occurring.
	As long as the guy isn't taking the action to actually pursue anything that this girl is like either offering or like trying to, as long as nothing happens, then it's fine.
	Yeah.
	But you guys don't have any instinct to want to mate guard.
	I mean, yeah, every girl does.
	You're going to want him to not like be out there getting approached, but at the end of the day, it's going to happen.
	I feel like they have a hobby.
	Some people don't.
	I mean, for me, like, my first instinct is to be like, wait, what's going on?
	But then like, I like take a step back and I'm like, oh, that's a little much.
	Like, if I really like the guy, like, I trust him to not do things even when I'm not there and even when like all this is going on.
	And even if he's drunk, like, like, that shouldn't be an excuse.
	Like, even when you're drunk, like, you should still be coherent.
	You should still know what's going on.
	Have control over your actions.
	Like, I'm not that much, like, I can admit that I'm not really like a hypocrite here.
	I think we've all gotten hit on before.
	Yeah.
	And none of us have reciprocated it.
	Like, if you don't want to.
	Yeah, literally, I was at the bar the other day and this guy like bought me drinks.
	And I obviously knew that he wanted to hook up or something, but I just walked away.
	You pay your free drink and you walk away.
	Yeah, I didn't promise him anything.
	But when the top G steps to you, you gotta hold back.
	When the top G. See, that's the thing, is that you're putting yourself in because I mean.
	If he doesn't hold back, then you break up with him.
	Yeah.
	And honestly, like, at the end of the day, like, if he's gonna cheat, he's gonna.
	Yeah, and I always think, like, glass half full, if there is someone better than me for him, like, damn shit.
	Nicer heart than I do, bro.
	I think every man is gonna cheat.
	Oh, not the call.
	I very much disagree on that.
	You can do everything for a fucking guy, and they're gonna cheat.
	From personal experience.
	Sorry, my nails.
	From personal experience.
	I tell a little personal thing.
	I paid for everything for a guy for an entire year of our relationship and he still cheated.
	Cheats with sugar monkey.
	Oh, my sweets, so much.
	I paid for everything.
	Everything he ever needed.
	Everything.
	And he lived with me.
	And he still cheated multiple times.
	Sam, were you simping for him?
	I felt bad for him.
	It was like a pity.
	He moved in after a month because he was homeless, and I paid for everything for over a year.
	He was homeless when you met?
	Practically, yeah.
	So you go for homeless men.
	Guys in the chat.
	You guys have a chance.
	I learned my lesson.
	Is this the same one?
	My last meeting.
	Yeah, still.
	No, no, no.
	Wait.
	She's bringing up the tea.
	He lives with my mom in Colorado.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	That's like, oh, my God.
	What?
	I hope he never sees this, but.
	Your mother?
	Yeah.
	How is he going to be able to do that?
	We broke up on good terms.
	Okay, we broke up, got back together.
	I mean, there's like the main detail that I don't think I should say, but it would make a lot more sense.
	Jaws drop every single time I say it.
	I think you should just say it.
	You should say it.
	You should say it.
	Oh, fuck.
	If he ever finds us, he's literally going to fucking kill me.
	Or kill himself.
	I don't know.
	He told me he was gay, but then cheated on me with multiple women.
	Oh, I forgot that was the same mom.
	Wow.
	Sounds like a catch, eh?
	Yeah.
	What a stud.
	Yeah, that's the reason why she can't go home to see me.
	I can't go visit my mom because he lives there.
	Oh.
	Letting a guy not let you visit your mom.
	Bro, I'm on his hall.
	Yeah, he doesn't know the full story.
	Oh, man.
	Oh, my God.
	What amazing?
	He's a dog.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Good times.
	I got money now, so I'm chilling.
	I don't have to worry about that.
	He's broke Europe.
	Wait, really quick.
	I'm totally changing the subject here.
	Have any of you ever had a sugar daddy?
	I'm in a sugar moment.
	No.
	I think I have one in my DMs.
	Or like, no, like the scary.
	No, no, no, no.
	Like, my friend's sugar daddy has been texting me, but like, I haven't gotten any money from him, so it doesn't count.
	Yeah.
	People make so much money from that sometimes, though.
	I don't know.
	I saw a TikTok where this guy's like recording his girl's phone while they're in bed.
	She's like, I'm working.
	She got like six grand from this guy.
	And he's like, okay.
	Like, he's like, he's like fine with it.
	I said, I'm just working, honey.
	I've heard of people who get like $500 from a 30-minute FaceTime call.
	Other than that, I had, okay, there's no one I'm going to point out here.
	I don't even, they're not going to watch this, but like, I was with a friend once a couple years ago.
	And like, she randomly one night decided to like sell her feet pics.
	Oh.
	Like, randomly.
	And she made like 200 bucks in like two seconds just by finding someone randomly.
	And I was like, I have something to say too.
	I was going out to dinner with some friends, and one of the girls had just gotten fired from her job so she barely had any money.
	She's like, hold on.
	Whips out her phone, texts like two dudes, and asks them, hey, can you send me like 200 bucks for dinner?
	Oh, shit.
	Instantly.
	Instantly.
	I was trying to be like, I was like, wait, wait, what are you getting right now?
	Where is she finding these guys?
	Yeah, where's she at?
	Can we get her at?
	Yeah, it's crazy.
	I mean, there's definitely.
	Oh, sorry, did you want to go ahead?
	You had to.
	Oh, I was going to say something funny.
	I think my mom might kill me if she watches this.
	Say it.
	She's not watching.
	She's watching.
	My mom, I, okay, I don't.
	She, she's like, you should start in OnlyFans for your feet, and I'll be your mama jer.
	I was like, look, Chris Jenner.
	Chris Jenner.
	I was like, hey.
	Iconic.
	So every now and then I'll be like, mom, I'm ready to start my OnlyFans.
	She's like, Only feet, though.
	Loki gets smarter that way, though.
	No connection.
	Yeah.
	I was like, she's like, just keep it anonymous.
	And I was like, how do you want me to promote this?
	Your profile picture is just your feet.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I know a girl who sells feet pics in town and I saw a picture of her like sucking her own toe.
	Oh, it's like selfie.
	Oh.
	And she sells them like that.
	Oh.
	I mean, she's making money.
	They made for her.
	Boston, she has like fake Instagram followers.
	Oh, yeah.
	He needs that money then.
	I know someone's going to be able to do that.
	Y'all are hilarious in the chat, by the way.
	Yeah, they're funny.
	So.
	They say my exit is banging my mom.
	Oh, how mom.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, gosh.
	Shout out to Josh really quick.
	You got it.
	Yeah.
	So I want to go.
	Actually, we didn't really have a chance for everyone to finish their whole, if you have a, what is it?
	Something you want to get off your channel.
	I think we ended on you.
	I think you did give your, like, get up, something you wanted to get off your chest about dating.
	I think you did give something, right?
	No, I don't think so.
	Something you wanted to get off your chest about dating.
	We'll come back to that.
	I just have a question for the panel.
	So, what does it take for a guy to get you?
	As in dating or like hookup-wise?
	Both.
	Oh, fuck.
	I don't know.
	I'm very much like turned off by a lot of men now.
	Like hooking up is not fun for me unless I'm like borderline blackout.
	But um unless you're what wait say that we're gonna get canceled again if I'm borderline blacked out then maybe oh not a good thing that's a case right there but sober things are scary for me.
	I can't do a lot of things, sober, I feel like I don't know.
	But okay, I guess to answer your question, that's a hard question.
	I'd say let me reframe the question, what are your standards?
	Very low, but like, do you think that's a factor in your pick of men being not, oh yeah, 100?
	Okay yeah, that definitely probably.
	I get ghosted all the time.
	Very low standards oh, a guy could literally, I guess, just being really respectful, that's like a big thing.
	For me it's really low, like that's a really low thing, but a lot of guys aren't.
	So I guess I don't really have a clear answer to answer that.
	Sure, but yeah, I don't know.
	Like, take me out on dates.
	Like buy me flowers, that's like really low standards.
	But like also um, standards are real, just like act interested, like you want to get to know me, like I don't know, like this is a pretty hard question like, come back to me on this, sounds like a lot of work.
	Take you on dates, literally.
	Okay, come back to me.
	Has a guy ever gotten you flowers before?
	Yes, was it like a first date or in a relationship?
	I'm in a relationship okay yeah, did you like that he got you flowers?
	Okay yeah, small but big gesture doesn't like flowers.
	Okay, come back to me.
	I gotta think, um, I don't even know, the bar is in Hell and they still can't reach it.
	Like they still can't reach it.
	Like you just have to be like a genuine person, like it has to.
	I feel like more.
	So it has to do with like the vibes.
	Like if you don't vibe with them, like if I don't vibe with the person, if I don't like being around them, like I'm not, like no matter what they do, I don't really think I'm gonna date them.
	So I think that's more what matters, the vibe.
	What is the vibe?
	Like sometimes you hang out with a person you're like oh, like there's I don't like you, like there's something about you I don't like or whatever.
	So can you?
	I want you to try to elaborate on the vibe okay, because I don't know.
	Because, like I guess with some people like you've met, like sometimes you'll meet up with a person you'll be like, oh my gosh, it's like I've known you forever, like I like to be around you, like I don't like my energy doesn't get like drained being around you, you know okay, so it's like someone you could be around at all times.
	Sure, by the way, as far as the standards go, you can list something physical.
	You can list physical traits.
	You can list personality, character traits too.
	So if there's a height component, if you guys want to date, some women have a like nine is a good one right now, six nine.
	I met a guy who is six nine, like recently, me and her, my coworkers yeah her yeah, and he yeah, that's a good height.
	Yeah, being taller is like a thing who's even taller than that.
	He was pushing like seven foot.
	Wait okay, I want to continue along with that.
	But here's a question, is there any either character trait or physical looks related thing that will get you to ignore red flags.
	Oh my god, tattoos and piercings.
	So if the guy's tatted yeah, the red flags will turn like yellow, like yeah yeah, it's definitely like height.
	I'm also a sucker for height.
	Yeah.
	When you say height, what's your height and how tall are you talking?
	I'm 5'8, and I'm talking maybe like 6'2 or above.
	6's not cutting anymore.
	6'2 and above.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	I don't really, I can't like imagine how tall guys are.
	Like not great with those numbers.
	So I'm like, I don't know.
	I feel like, I mean, like, I'm six.
	No, I'm not six.
	I'm 5'8.
	Six foot's only like this much taller than me.
	I'm boy, hold on.
	So six foot is not enough.
	It's not.
	Well, like, it's not enough for me to ignore red flags.
	That was the question.
	Sure.
	Okay, yeah, I guess I did frame it in that way.
	But even just not taking into consideration the whole red flag thing, is six feet still kind of too short for you?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	Fair enough.
	I'm fine with someone like even a little shorter than me.
	I honestly.
	Unpopular opinion.
	What about you?
	Your height and then.
	I am 5'1.
	Anyone looks taller than me, but honestly, like, okay, she's my best friend.
	She's 5'8.
	I don't want to be with a guy that she can look down at.
	She doesn't want a guy that could beat up.
	I don't want a guy that she can beat up.
	I see.
	I see.
	It's actually a good baseline.
	I'm the standard.
	Men out there.
	I'm the standard.
	When they come up to you, they have to like.
	I'd be like, Maddie, come here.
	Yeah, when you're meeting, you actually meet guys at an MMA cage and you have them fight her.
	Yep, yeah.
	Yep, yeah, yeah.
	I have to casually walk by in the distance.
	Yeah.
	See how tall they are.
	I've done this before.
	I have to casually walk by just so she could make sure.
	I didn't short.
	They got to meet each other, and if she's looking down, you're cut off.
	Are you wearing heels in this situation?
	No, she's wearing flats.
	I'm going barefoot on her.
	I'm trying to help him out.
	Can we get some skulls in the chat for all the short kings?
	Okay.
	How tall are you?
	How tall are you?
	Don't lie.
	I'm 5'7.
	Ooh, okay.
	That's like right over me.
	I mean, the heels are.
	Okay, so I don't, I'm, I'm, I'm someone who was insecure about their height and then realized in the long run, it doesn't really fucking matter.
	Plus, I'm going to be honest, I'm going to be straight up.
	I could kick almost anyone's ass.
	Yeah.
	I'm not worried about losing in a fight to some fucker, especially if he's a little taller than me.
	No, dude, just fucking go for the ankles.
	It's not that hard.
	Go for the dick.
	You just.
	That's off limits.
	Anything, any character traits or physical traits that would have you ignoring red flags?
	I don't know.
	I think all I never really want from a guy is just kind of like, because I consider myself kind of ambitious.
	So if you got goals too.
	I mean, if you're like set, if you have like a path, I fuck with that.
	Yeah.
	Agree.
	Tattoo and the height.
	Tattoo.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You said tattoo and height?
	Yeah.
	How tall are you?
	I'm 5'6.
	So?
	6'3 and above.
	6'3 and above.
	Whoa.
	By the way, 6'3 and above, that's only 1% of men.
	Just letting you guys know.
	I'm fine being a single.
	Just letting you guys know.
	Yeah.
	What's yours with girls?
	Then ignore all the red flags.
	Thank you for that.
	Ignore all the red flags.
	Oof.
	I wouldn't say all, but like some that are low.
	So, okay, again, I don't have a height preference.
	I really don't.
	Like, if she's like 4'8, I'm like, okay.
	That's like a little person at the heart.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	So I guess like five foot is a minimum height, but like I don't care if she's tall.
	If she's like 6'4, I don't care.
	Okay.
	I will climb a tall tree.
	I feel like I have no way up there.
	I will climb a tall tree.
	I feel like I'm a tall girl.
	I'm 5'8 ⁇ .
	And I sometimes feel like it's sometimes like a hindrance being this tall.
	I feel like, especially guys don't really want to be around girls.
	Their height.
	It's not really like a girl thing, I don't think.
	They get intimidated.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Guys get intimidated by tall women.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Maybe because they think that women have an issue with height.
	I don't know.
	I come from like a really tall family.
	So like, I think it's just like a people's thing.
	Sorry, I didn't mean to press that.
	Seeing that, you know, I think for most guys, most guys do not care about height at all.
	no like they'll date a woman who's i'm six feet I'll date a girl who's 6'5 ⁇ .
	I'll date a woman who's and I'll about to get into the things that will make me ignore red flag.
	Honestly, if her height doesn't start with four, she ain't the one.
	4'11, 4'10.
	I'm just what?
	Really cute height.
	Legally a dwarf.
	Hook it up.
	I know.
	I like seeing.
	I'm sorry, you're too tall for me.
	I like seeing like six foot five guys with like really short girls for some reason.
	I don't know.
	I think it's cute.
	I think actually the short.
	Like a Nathan Maddie type situation.
	Oh, see?
	There's definitely like some short women.
	So the average female height's 5'4.
	Women who are like 5 feet, no offense.
	They seem to actually have more of a preference for a guy who's like, say, 6 feet.
	No, that's true.
	Yeah.
	Than does a woman who's like average height, 5'4, 5'6, 5'8.
	So, but yeah, as far as red flags that would make me, or that things in a woman that would make me ignore 6'5 and homeless is her time.
	Yeah, 6'5, homeless.
	I'll take it.
	Yeah, pretty much I would say short.
	Shorter the better.
	She can be a midget, I guess.
	A dwarf.
	Hey, there's some hot ones.
	I don't think that's the politically correct term.
	And large labia.
	Okay.
	All labia matter, guys.
	Can we get some all labia matter in the chat, guys?
	Thank you.
	So let's see here.
	Okay, Stiffler, ask the ladies to rate themselves on the scale of one to ten.
	Okay, we can do that.
	Go ahead.
	I'd say seven.
	Dude, I was going to say seven, too.
	I'm going to say myself seven.
	So seven.
	Rate ourselves?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, your physical appearance.
	We're all tens here.
	But like, I don't care y'all.
	Okay.
	So you're a ten.
	We're all tens.
	Maybe like six point eight.
	Nah.
	Like a four.
	No.
	That's why I said we all have to say we're tens.
	Yeah, see.
	I should have a four too.
	Like seven?
	Oh, it was only supposed to be for the ladies.
	No, yeah, rate yourself.
	He's going to jump on those guys.
	I give myself like six, six point nine on a good day.
	I'm trying to kick out.
	And then, okay, we got Logan Paul.
	I want to get pegged by Andrew Tate.
	Unpopular opinion, I think Logan Paul's hot.
	How dare you?
	The silent silent, unpopular opinion.
	That is when he doesn't have that like homeless looking beat at all.
	When that's off, I get your point.
	Yeah, I mean, Logan Paul.
	I met him before.
	Oh.
	You met him?
	Yeah, like a long time ago.
	You met him?
	A long time ago.
	Y'all smashed?
	Oh.
	No, no, no.
	Okay.
	It was like a meet-and-greet type of VidCon or something?
	No, but like in that type of sure, sure, sure.
	Okay.
	like 13.
	So I wanted to come back to you because you said come back to me for the standards thing.
	So what are your.
	Oh my god, I didn't even think of it.
	I was just like agreeing with what they're saying.
	They basically got like everything.
	Did everyone get to give their standards for a guy?
	Yeah.
	Because I switched over to the red flag thing, so I do want to bring it back.
	I think it ended off with Yazzie, right?
	Yeah, I think Yazzie, you got yours.
	Yeah, you got yours?
	I think so.
	Did you get to go your standards for dating?
	Yeah, like what does it take for a guy to get you your standards?
	It could be physical, it could be personality.
	I feel like I'm just looking for guys that's not going to lower my standard of living.
	So you mean you want a guy who matches you your earnings?
	Yeah.
	Or like financial wise.
	Okay.
	You know, because we can be more on the same page and not going to be an issue.
	Because I was in your shoes before I got cheated on.
	I pay for a lot of things.
	You know, he used to owe me money.
	Oh, yeah.
	100%.
	Yeah.
	So like I learned from my mistakes.
	I was like, I'm not about to do that no more.
	A guy's paying for me all the way next time.
	Where can you find women who are simps?
	You know?
	Right here.
	It'd be nice, right?
	I mean, have you ever seen proper sim for you?
	Like, properly simply.
	People call me like sugar bottles.
	No.
	No, definitely not.
	I have a friend.
	Would you like it though?
	Oh, I would love it.
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah, I think it'd be fun.
	Okay.
	I have a friend that someone asked her.
	I was like, are you friends with Jubilee because she gives you stuff?
	Oh, yeah.
	Our friend.
	She's our best friend.
	Someone literally genuinely went up to her.
	He's like, are you only friends with her because she'll get you stuff sometimes?
	Just because she's my best friend, I would get her shit sometimes.
	I would pay for food sometimes.
	I don't know.
	I was nice.
	I'm just a nice person.
	Honestly, I feel like if a girl just brought, like on our second time hanging out, just brought me like a $3 trinket or some bullshit, I'd be like, holy shit.
	I'd be like, super.
	I'd pull a lot of tech tech out of my purse.
	I'm like, here's your tech tech here.
	Just play with the.
	Yeah, I keep a tech tech in my purse.
	Wait, can we bust?
	No, I'm kidding.
	I don't have that.
	I don't have that.
	It's my personal bummer.
	Okay.
	I've seen before.
	I was on a date with a guy and I gave my tech tech and he goes on his Instagram story just pulling tricks.
	He was real hyped about it.
	You had a great time.
	So we were talking a bit earlier about sort of hookup culture and you guys wanting guys to be, would you say you wish guys were more upfront with you about their intentions?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And we sort of went into that.
	Eric, we're going to pull up a video here.
	If you can go to the videos tab for us.
	All right.
	Play the.
	Let's play the scroll up just a bit.
	Play the Brian asking video.
	Do you speak English?
	Yeah.
	I just thought you were really cute.
	And I want to know if you wanted to have sex.
	No.
	Okay.
	I just thought you were cute and I wanted to know if you wanted to have sex.
	No.
	I just thought you were really cute and I want to know if you want to have sex with me.
	And I want to know if you want to have sex.
	Do you guys speak English?
	Yeah.
	Where are you from?
	Australia.
	Oh, Australia, Cole.
	You guys are really cute.
	Okay, and I want to know if you guys wanted to have sex.
	Do you want to have sex?
	No?
	I just thought you were cute, and I just want to know if you wanted to have sex.
	I'm trying to find my friend.
	I thank you.
	Thank you.
	All right, night.
	Sex with me.
	Are you stupid or I'm a little stupid?
	Well, you want to lie on the ground or not?
	Right now.
	Yes.
	What do you mean, lie on the ground?
	Damny, gonna slap you very hard.
	Yes?
	When I'm on the ground or something?
	That's not what you're gonna ask, a lady.
	No.
	Oh.
	I'm not from around here, so I don't know the custom.
	Okay, your guys' reaction to that video.
	By the way, that was me.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, I know.
	Your reaction?
	Very upfront.
	I feel like if a guy did that to me personally, it would depend on my mood, maybe, but I would think you're joking.
	Like you came up in like a certain town and you said that to me, I'd be like, oh, you're just joking.
	So.
	Okay.
	Maybe yes.
	Maybe yes.
	Maybe.
	In the center of Amsterdam like that?
	Just maybe yes.
	Okay.
	Maybe.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Yeah, I'd probably say no.
	Well, are we saying what we were doing?
	Just your reaction.
	Your reaction to the video.
	The reaction?
	What would you do in that situation?
	Oh, if someone did, oh, I'd say no.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Or your reaction to the video.
	Okay, well, I didn't know what you were asking.
	I would say no.
	I mean, one reaction I had to that was like, there's like a time and place for everything.
	And even if a guy's being extremely nice and just being like, hi, I thought you were really nice and I'd really like to get to know you.
	Like if I'm just like walking around, like sometimes I don't want to be hit on.
	So like having someone come up to you and be like, fuck me right now.
	Like I'd be like, whoa.
	Like, no.
	That was in Amsterdam, you said?
	Yeah, that was in Amsterdam.
	No, that's right.
	That's like if someone from like Europe came over here and they started like asking if I wanted to have sex.
	I'd like think I was getting trafficked or something.
	Oh my god.
	Yeah.
	I mean probably a lot of the people I went up to were they were tourists themselves.
	Oh.
	I mean I can't.
	Did anyone say yes?
	Actually one woman, I asked 200 women, one woman said yes.
	That's a lot.
	Wow.
	Yeah one.
	Wow.
	Well you know your ratio.
	We're gonna say success.
	Yo I'm telling you it's fucking rough for men.
	Okay go ahead.
	No.
	No?
	Okay.
	So now you gotta ask him.
	What if a girl went up to you like well we're gonna we're gonna get to that Eric if you can play the uh one yep guys are easy already now like that.
	Would you have sex with me?
	Oh my gosh.
	Yes no ready, please.
	This is not a good thing.
	Just kind of lay there and I'll just do my thing, why not?
	Okay, let's go.
	I always want to ask you guys if you would be down to have sex with me.
	I will definitely have sex with you, like right, like literally right now, when you're not joking your house is like right over there.
	I'll go with it right now, right now.
	Are you down?
	Yeah, why not?
	Let me know if this is too forward.
	If you would have sex with me, hold on, I'm on the mom, can I call you back?
	Maybe you'd want to have sex with me.
	Yes yeah, like right now, like literally my house, like right over.
	You want to have sex with me?
	Are you out of your mind?
	Maybe a little bit.
	You and Dragon?
	Kind of the best way.
	Oh, nope.
	I'm completely sober.
	You out of your mind.
	In the best kind of way.
	Come on, my husband.
	Okay.
	You want to have sex with me?
	What?
	Yes.
	I'm serious.
	Like, my house is like right there.
	All right.
	I'm good.
	Okay, let's do it.
	You want to have sex with me?
	Yeah.
	And my house is like right over there.
	I don't know if this is serious.
	Would you like to hang out with us first?
	No, no.
	You want to still do it right now?
	Yeah, just be like really quick, like 15 minutes.
	That's totally fine with me.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Ready to go?
	Yeah, let's go.
	Okay.
	I better not be getting robbed right now.
	Okay.
	I knew it.
	Your guys' reaction to that video.
	I called it.
	I mean, every guy's going to be like, yeah, I'm down.
	And she's also like really hot.
	Yeah.
	So any guy, I mean, I think any guy, anytime's like, yeah, we're going to fuck right now.
	And I don't care.
	Like, you put a young Leo DiCaprio asking us that question.
	I mean, if she's not going to be able to do that.
	Well, so that is a fair point.
	And some comments are saying that.
	To be fair, Andrea's very attractive.
	She's probably, I'd say, at least two points above me in terms of our looks equivalent.
	But I did do it with Cody Medler.
	We did a version with him.
	I think he's a fairly attractive guy, and he asked 100 women, zero.
	He got zero.
	And he's a pretty good-looking dude, really fit.
	So did you get to give your take or your take?
	Men are easy, man.
	Yeah.
	That's what I've noticed from that video.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, if she came up to me and asked if I wanted to have sex with her, I'd say no, but I think I'd like get her like Instagram or something.
	So honestly, I don't really know what to say.
	I'm just surprised it was like 100%.
	Yes, that's what surprised me.
	I mean, she did, that was a sort of compilation clip.
	She did get some no's, but like when we went out and filmed that, I had her, because I wanted to get at least some no's.
	She was going up to people like with her girlfriend, like couples.
	She went up to a dad.
	Do you say dad?
	A dad, yeah.
	Did he say yeah?
	No.
	Did you give your.
	Oh, I think it's pretty fair.
	Like, she's hot.
	Okay.
	And what would you do if Andrea came up to you and asked you if you wanted that sex with her?
	What would you do in that situation?
	I think that would be lovely.
	I would just say that.
	I think I would respectfully say, let's go.
	Let's do it.
	Take her hand.
	Lead the way.
	And then you get your organs harvested.
	Okay.
	Yeah, seriously.
	I mean, I think that's that one guy at the end.
	He was like, I better not be getting robbed right now.
	So, yeah, I mean, that's kind of the to bring it back to the conversation about, you know, what was it?
	I started that sentence.
	Just guys being up front.
	Yeah, so guys being up front.
	So like, I mean, you've seen the video.
	I would say I was pretty diplomatic and polite about it, you know?
	So if guys were up front like that, it's just, it's not, you need, women want a little bit more before, so guys are going to play the game.
	And so.
	I mean, I think it's also like circumstances.
	Like, it's like, like you guys said, like, when they are like DTF, they're like asking you on Tinder and stuff.
	Like, that's different.
	Like, you could, you could do that same scenario, like, on text, like on Tinder, and you'd probably get like a lot more like.
	We actually did also do that same experiment on Tinder.
	There's so many experiments.
	A lot of experiments.
	Also, it's a lot easier over text.
	Like, just like talking over the phone is a lot less intimidating than in person.
	You can also scope out someone's profile.
	People got years and stuff backed up there.
	Actually, Luke, are we going to have you do that?
	The updated version of that?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, guys, we're going to have one in the chat if you want to see Luke doing that social experiment.
	And then two in the chat if you want Jubilee to do it also.
	Okay.
	I'll do it.
	Yes.
	Okay, so I want to, we didn't really get to finish off with the, if you have any sort of gripe with dating, anything dating related you want to get off your chest.
	Did you got an opportunity to answer that right?
	No, I don't.
	Like, what do you mean?
	So at the very beginning of the show, I asked, and I wanted to give everyone on the panel an opportunity to answer this.
	Is there anything dating related you want to get off your chest?
	Recent bad date experience?
	Just something general about men, general about dating.
	Anything?
	I don't think so.
	I don't really like go on dates or like doing the.
	You don't go on dates?
	No, I just schooled.
	Did you just hook up?
	Oh, well, yeah.
	You've only had Bim or two guys.
	I feel like I've been slowly putting in my input in like different places.
	So there's nothing really like major that I feel like I need to put out there.
	Nothing that bothers you.
	Nothing that comes to mind.
	Oh.
	Ah.
	Okay, we've discussed.
	With hookup culture, from what I've heard, men, if they are going to participate in hookup culture, need to understand the rules of hookup culture.
	And major issue is condoms.
	Guys who are hooking up with like other girls, they will try and hit it without a condom.
	And then the girl has to be like, can you put one on?
	And sometimes they have to like go make their friend get one.
	And like.
	Wait.
	So can you clarify a little bit?
	Clarify what?
	Well, so okay.
	You're saying, is this a situation that you found yourself in?
	No.
	So you're speaking on behalf of a friend that's told you about this?
	Yes.
	I've like heard some stuff.
	Okay.
	Well, I mean, it's not surprising to me that men prefer having sex without a condom, but so what, what?
	what's my issue with that what yeah what is your my issue with that is that with hookup culture like guys are probably hooking up with multiple people at once Maybe just like, I don't even know, but like.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Continue.
	Yeah, like they might be hooking up with like multiple people.
	And like, like, you just need to be safe with that.
	And so like getting tested, condoms, like, like, I'm, like, as a girl, like, I would want to be safe.
	Like, I would hope that he would want to be safe as well.
	Like, I just don't understand like why they would be so reckless about it.
	And it's honestly kind of disgusting.
	just so just so i understand you've heard from female friends of yours that because i mean what i'm just trying to understand what's going on so So they start, they are having sex, but they're not using a condom.
	And then midway through sex, the girl's like, can you put a condom on now?
	And this is a good idea.
	Like before.
	And you're going to get a lot of fun.
	Okay, so before the sex starts.
	Yeah, and he'll like try to do it without, and then.
	When you say try, you mean he'll be like, let's just not use it.
	Like he'll say, try to convince her to not.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Sure.
	That's my issue.
	Okay.
	That guys don't want to use condoms.
	Or that they're not.
	Like, guys who are hooking up with multiple costs.
	Like, I'm not one to judge people for hooking up.
	Like, you do whatever you want to each their own.
	But it's like, you gotta.
	Protection.
	You gotta protect yourself.
	Sure.
	Drop it.
	Practice safe sex.
	Yes.
	If nothing else.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, I definitely would say that if as I mean, as a guy, yes, it feels better to have sex without a condom, but if you're hooking up with a lot of women, probably for your own safety, for a few, I mean, STDs and also pregnancy risk, probably a smart idea to wear a condom.
	Yeah.
	But I think both people should be responsible for protection.
	I think.
	Like bring a condom to.
	I mean, if like a female condom.
	No, well, I mean, actually, we have one sometimes.
	Wait, those like, oh, I've never seen one in person.
	Wow.
	This is a female condom.
	You know, it'd be funny as fuck, guys, and I've mentioned this in other podcasts.
	You're hooking up with a girl, right?
	You're hooking up with a girl, and she's like, Do you have a condom?
	And you're like, Of course, babe.
	I got you.
	I'm a responsible individual.
	Here you go.
	Here you go.
	Put it on.
	And then the chick's going to be like, what?
	Oh, sorry.
	Yeah, there are.
	Wait, do you want it in the first place?
	All you, babe.
	Throw this in really quick.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Get strapped.
	Okay.
	Right?
	Wow.
	I actually wanted to comment on that really quick.
	So, personally, I'm not big on hookup culture.
	Again, if I'm going to IV, I'm going to IV to have fun.
	But, you know, if one thing leads to another and I'm enjoying myself, I'm not going to deny it.
	And there have been people that I want to get with.
	And so I always stay strapped.
	Fellas, just stay strapped.
	Who gives a fuck?
	Either you don't use it and great, you don't use it.
	Or you use it and guess what?
	You still fucking scored, bro.
	It's not that big of a deal.
	Relax.
	I'm going to come in with a hot take here.
	I would honestly, if I, for a one-night stand, I would honestly rather just not even have sex if I have to use a condom.
	Oh.
	Wow.
	So I'll say, hey, I just don't.
	We can do other stuff, but I'm probably just going to be like, I don't even want to.
	Well, I mean, that's like your choice.
	Yeah, that is your choice.
	Yeah.
	I wouldn't pressure the girl, but it would just be like, you know, I just don't.
	Yeah.
	Do you think it's safe to get tested regularly, though?
	Yes.
	What's that?
	But do you get tested regularly?
	Like after.
	Whoa.
	I can't even say those words.
	After each partner, like, do you go get tested again?
	Oh, what?
	Like, after each sexual partner, like, do you go get tested again?
	Yeah, like, if it's the end of the relationship, I guess.
	If I'm going to be.
	It's more so if I'm, like, maybe the relationship's ended or there's someone new, like.
	If I'm going to start dating someone new, we broke up, whatever, maybe, then, yeah.
	Okay.
	But, yeah, I mean, like, even I've tried the thin ones, and it's just like, there's no going back.
	There's no going back.
	Yeah, I can admit that one.
	It's not the same.
	It's better, but not safe.
	Yeah, as safe.
	But it's like as safe.
	Okay, I've heard this like a while ago.
	I feel like you would give me an honest answer.
	Does like an erection feel like if your arm is like fully like do that, like just put your arm out.
	Like just fully extend it.
	Fully extended.
	We're getting very close to doing a Roman salute here.
	Get that headway back onto the bottom.
	Show me again.
	It sounds like I heard this when I was younger.
	Some German relatives or something.
	It's like if we fully extend your arm, like fully clench it, like all your muscles, it feels like an erection.
	Wait, can you say I like you?
	Do you know that thing where you can you put your elbows together?
	What?
	No.
	No!
	Guys.
	Guys.
	We're trying to protect the girls.
	I feel like we're going to be able to get it.
	Look out for one another.
	The chat.
	It was the chat asking for it.
	I have a funny thing.
	They forced me to do it.
	Chat.
	You forced me to do it.
	Okay.
	So I don't know how we're.
	Okay, so we're talking about condoms.
	Yeah, I mean, definitely.
	I think both people should try to be prepped on that.
	But definitely.
	He's going to take that for later.
	You'd be like, yo, I don't got one.
	But like, here we go.
	Like, hey, excuse me.
	I have a condom actually.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, here you go.
	It's on you.
	It's on you tonight.
	You have to fling it towards them.
	Like, if you are that.
	The two fingers, too.
	Yeah, the two fingers.
	Throw it out.
	Yeah.
	It's, yeah, imagine though, the first time with a new girl.
	Yes.
	Do you have a condom?
	Of course, babe.
	It's like so aerodynamic, too.
	It's perfect.
	You get some of the pesticide that they pesticide.
	There's like, you sword it.
	You mean spermicide?
	Oh, fuck.
	Pesticides for me.
	Pesticides for plants.
	Oh, God.
	That'll do something.
	That'll, yeah, that'll be a good thing.
	That'll be terrible.
	That'll mess shit up.
	Double homicide.
	Big time.
	So just moving along, so anything dating related you want to get off your chest?
	Oh, I don't know.
	I think, first of all, like, I'll fully admit it.
	I'm like, not very mature.
	So, like, I think a lot of people aren't.
	And I feel like a lot of the issues that kind of come around with college is because no one's really mature.
	And half the people I know want a relationship and half of them don't.
	And it's always kind of like this in-between thing.
	I don't know.
	I just don't really want a relationship right now.
	Well, I don't think I can think of anything on top of my head.
	Luke, anything for you?
	I'm in a weird place, I think.
	Because, you know, again, I just got out of a relationship, so I don't know if I want to jump into anything serious super quick.
	But at the same time, like being in a fun, loving relationship is so amazing.
	And so I'm like, I'm torn.
	I don't know.
	It's hard.
	And yeah, I don't know.
	I'm just spewing nonsense now, but I'm so in between.
	But like, what do you look for?
	Isn't that the question?
	Or no, I don't know.
	What pisses you off about girls or women?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Red flags.
	Women.
	Red flags.
	Anything that just like you just want to get off your chest.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I've had a pretty good experience with women, so no, not really.
	Must be nice.
	Yeah.
	I think you guys, again, I think everyone says their standards way too high.
	And like you were saying about, was it you that was saying something about social media?
	I think.
	Okay, yeah.
	So I agree with that one 100%.
	I think the fact that we can see these like gorgeous people and compare everyone else to them, it's like that's like a one in a hundred, like one in a thousand chance that you're going to actually see someone like that.
	And they're probably, who knows, but because they're so gorgeous, they're probably taken advantage of and they can be assholes.
	So, and it doesn't matter how gorgeous they are, if you're paired with someone every day who's an asshole who's going to mistreat you, it's going to suck.
	Like, you can look at them and be like, wow, she's gorgeous or he's super hot.
	But at the end, if he treats you like shit, it's like, ooh, well, now I feel shitty.
	You start seeing them as ugly at like some point.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I feel like three months in is when you really see it.
	I've heard that a lot, like all over social media.
	It's a three-month rule.
	The three months, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Even with friends, too.
	Like, in general, that works with people.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Do you know what this is, Brian?
	The three-month rule?
	Have you heard of this?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I'm trying to think, I don't know if there's a Chris Rock joke about this or something, but when you're first meeting somebody, you're not meeting them.
	You're meeting their representative.
	So people are like going to be on their best behavior, putting their best self forward, but then as time goes on.
	I mean, some people, there's a continuity and they're just fantastic people through and through, but then there are definitely people that it takes a while to sort of see the madness.
	Or they just, that shit's just upfront too, sometimes.
	So definitely.
	So got a couple more questions for you guys.
	When it comes to dating in relationships, what do you bring to the table?
	And I want to start over here, just since we've been here.
	Or at least we can start with you and then move around.
	What do I bring?
	I think I bring a sense of like security, respect, and maturity.
	I don't think I'm a lot like people who are just going to use, you know, their partner or they're just in it for sex.
	And I've been with, you know, immature people and I just it's and I don't know how to like describe immature like.
	They're not forward with how they feel.
	Or if you get in a fight, they're so quick to blame you for it instead of working through it.
	I find it way more comforting to like, if there's a problem, fix it.
	Don't let it just linger there and fade away.
	You need to jump on that and fix it, especially if you want to be with that person.
	And yeah, I mean, I feel like I'm a responsible person.
	I have a stable income and I'm good looking.
	So I bring all that.
	And I'm not going to, I don't find myself as one of these fuckboys that are just going to treat you like shit and then leave.
	You know, if I'm talking to you, it's probably going to be in it for the long run.
	Unless, like you said, I don't get the vibe or I don't fit the vibe with you.
	In which case, I'll let you know respectfully, like, hey, I don't think this is going to work out.
	I just, I think you are paired with someone else better than you are with me.
	So, I don't think it's going to work out between us.
	And you're always strapped with...
	And I'm always strapped.
	I always email condoms.
	You should sponsor this.
	Yes.
	Pasante.
	Whatever.
	Can we get the sponsorship, guys?
	We've been plugging this shit like a couple shows.
	Yeah.
	And even if you just want to send us like a thousand of these, that'll be cool.
	Hand them out.
	Yeah, we'll hand them out around idle visits.
	Goody bags.
	Goody bags.
	The women need it.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	I think I'm pretty mature.
	So what I bring is like maturity.
	And in the relationship, I feel like it's really important to motivate each other and then to become better.
	And also it is really important to think into different perspective because at the end of the day, you and your partner might be coming from a different background, different story, think differently.
	So I think being respectful and thinking different perspectives so you can understand what each other are thinking are pretty important as well.
	That is what I think.
	I don't know.
	I'd like to think I bring like honesty and loyalty and just trust in general and be a good person.
	But I think some, I'm just still working on everything.
	I think I'm like a work in progress.
	So I'm kind of every day I kind of just try to be a better version of myself.
	I think that's what I bring.
	As I've mentioned before, I've never been in a relationship, so I don't actually have experience with this.
	Never been in a relationship.
	Oh, yeah, your longest one was two years, or sorry, two months.
	Two months.
	Talking stages.
	Yeah.
	It's just like talking stages.
	And are you a sophomore at UCSB?
	I am.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, but I feel like if I were to, I feel like I'm pretty like mature about things.
	I feel like I can be like, I mean, one big thing I have is like communication.
	So it's like, I feel like in a relationship, like I'd be pretty easy to talk to, like, pretty reasonable.
	Yeah.
	I think that's something I could bring.
	I feel like I feel like I'm kind of like the textbook girlfriend when I like become a girlfriend.
	You know what I mean?
	I don't know if that makes sense, but, like...
	How so?
	But like, if I'm like really, like, if I'm actually dating you, like, we're fully together and official or whatever, like, I will go like above and beyond.
	Like, I'll, if you are having a bad day, like, to bring you shit that makes you feel better, like, something like to hang out with your family and like actually connect with like not just you, but like the whole family.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like, my, my ex's family invited me to like family gatherings, like, even, like, months after we started dating, because, because I was just close with them.
	Yeah, honestly, like, like everyone said, trust, like, loyalty, communication, and, like, definitely, like, supportive.
	Like, I will support you in like school or your job or whatever.
	You know?
	I could agree with Vivi.
	If I'm single, I'm single.
	I'm going to do my own thing.
	But in a relationship, I will do anything as, I mean, to an extent, I mean, I broke that in the past.
	But I will cook you food.
	I will kind of do anything if you're, like I said, she's, like she said, like, if you're having a bad day, like, I will cheer you up.
	I will go out and go get your favorite snacks.
	You could just chill and just do everything.
	But for me, like, I started my own business in high school, and I've been growing that.
	And I am on that kind of point in my life where if you're not doing something that you're working towards or anything, like maturity type, yeah, I just, I don't know.
	I definitely in that maturity level.
	Right now, I mean, I'm not that old.
	I'm still really young.
	But I guess that's what I kind of bring.
	A lot of maturity in a lot of ways.
	A lot of security, trust, and a lot of loyalty.
	I'd like to add one more thing too, by the way.
	I think in a relationship, and this is just, this is for me, I think it should be for a lot of other people.
	I get it if you like the whole clingy, you're my person for like forever and always.
	That's great.
	I think in a relationship, you are your own person and you're in that relationship to better yourself with that person's contact and their presence.
	It's not like I'm controlling you all the way.
	And like you guys all said, if cheaters are going to cheat, if you're going to cheat, just let them off the hook.
	just break up with them right there and then.
	I fully agree with that.
	And I find myself a super loyal person.
	I would never ever do that, especially knowing how it feels.
	And so, you know, you should be your own person and trust that they're going to support you in whatever you do.
	And as soon as that goes out the window, I think the relationship starts to diminish a little bit.
	I could agree.
	If someone doesn't support me, it makes me feel really bad.
	I've worked my fucking ass off to get to where I am.
	And if they don't, I'm like, you don't care about me.
	You're not going to support my dreams and my career and everything.
	But I'm going to support you with everything you do.
	But if I don't get the same back, I'm not going to fuck with you anymore.
	Like you just, it goes down and down, like with my feelings towards you.
	If you don't, what's your business?
	I do nails.
	Nails.
	Okay.
	I've been doing it for like a little over two and a half years.
	Okay, nice.
	Got my clientele, all that.
	So you would be upset if your partner didn't support you in terms of your business.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What if I told when you say support, what do you mean?
	If they don't, like if I show you my work and you're like, oh, it's like it's cool.
	Or if they don't, like, you had a really good day of work and you're really excited about it and like you're proud of yourself.
	If they're not proud of you, then I don't think that's a good thing.
	Can I add?
	Yeah, sure.
	I also, so it's like not my business.
	It's my sister's.
	She does like events in town.
	I was talking about it I think before we started the podcast.
	They're like flea markets in town.
	And I feel like I usually like invite my close friends and stuff.
	And if I was in a relationship and I invited the person and they didn't come, I feel like I say like too much, I already know.
	But I would probably wouldn't like them as much if they like didn't come and support me.
	Wait, so and you just going back to you, so you said that you'd want to tell your partner about like a good day at work.
	So, I mean, what is a no offense or anything, but what is a good day at work doing nails?
	If I personally like the work that I did, I okay, like, because is there an artistic component?
	Oh, 100%.
	Okay, the designs could be really pretty, or I had a really good conversation with someone.
	Because I build a lot of bonds with my clients and I become friends with them.
	A lot of my really close friends now are because I met them by working.
	And they just make an appointment with me and then I, a lot of times I become their friend because of the connection we grow.
	Sure.
	But like a lot, I've like shown guys like my work and they're like, they just either ignore that I like I'll show them a picture or do they kind of ignore it, especially like over text.
	And they just don't really say anything.
	Or if they're like, oh my god, I'm so proud of you.
	Like you're doing really well.
	Especially like I'm 19 and I have my own business and it's going really well.
	Nice.
	And it's thank you.
	And if they're not supportive of that, it just doesn't think they're supportive of my career.
	A lot of guys think it's either really cool or really stupid.
	Yeah, I mean, this, I think when you're in a relationship with someone, you should certainly be supportive of them.
	I think part of that might be related to what it might be related to, though, is that men don't really care about a woman's career.
	Just let me clarify a bit.
	It doesn't make you more attractive to us if you have a career or you're successful or you're ambitious.
	Did you say why?
	No, I was just saying okay.
	Oh, okay, yeah.
	Yeah, so I think for most men, like we like, because you might be an outlier, but most women don't share their resources with men the same way that men share their resources with women.
	I know a lot of you are in college, so it's like, what the fuck are you talking about, Brian?
	But like, you're probably finances to you guys probably are not really high on the totem pole yet because most of the guys you're probably interacting with are in college.
	They're not in a career yet.
	But as you do start to get a bit older, you know, you hear a lot about women like men with high status.
	So if that could be through a job, if they're an athlete, musician, actor, something like that.
	Whereas men, we do not care at, we really care nothing at all about a woman's status.
	Whereas women care, if a man has status, that can be very attractive.
	It's also kind of hated upon, though.
	Like, I know a lot of women who end up with men who I guess would be considered like lower status or not paid as much, it gets more disrespected than if it was actually just a man of a higher status with a woman of a lower status.
	I feel like that's more unusual.
	I feel like a lot of people...
	Yeah, like trophy wife.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like the trophy wife troposcene is super common, but you don't really see the other way.
	I feel like it's kind of stigmatized.
	You think it's stigmatized for a woman to be with a man who's earning less than her or if you even go on like the internet and you just see like these really famous influencers with their husbands who just are in the background.
	It's like constantly in the comments.
	It's like, why is she with him?
	What is she doing?
	Like he's like just doing this and that.
	But if you see like a very like Ronaldo or something, you wouldn't question why he had a girlfriend.
	He's back.
	He's back.
	He's watching.
	Round two.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Oh, like for a famous celebrity or something like that, if it was a male, you wouldn't baden eye if they had like a really attractive younger person who wasn't even a celebrity.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I would say though, overwhelmingly, like a lot of, did you want to come in on this?
	It looked like you were.
	Okay.
	It looked like it seems like for women who are high status, there are definitely women that will date down.
	But the thing is, is as a woman, as you start increasing your status and as you start making more money, your pool of potential partners tends to shrink.
	Because most women don't want to date a guy who's lower status than them or whose earning potential is lower than them.
	Now, again, I know you guys are in college, so like you haven't probably played too much or wrestled too much with these sort of dynamics.
	And I know you're an outlier, apparently.
	I'd say so.
	Yeah, most women, and if you, I think they've done polls on this, like most women, and you can also do it with education attainment.
	Most women would want to date a man who is at least as or more educated than she is.
	I think as might be, I don't know.
	So if she has a bachelor's, she wants a guy who has a bachelor's.
	She has a master's.
	I don't know if they did it for grad student, like people who have graduate level degrees, but post-grad, whatever it's called.
	So, yeah.
	I feel like with that, it's just like finding a partner, like you're finding an equal.
	Like you want to have someone who has kind of the same edge, like when you were saying with education, like you want someone with the same education as you, it's more of just seeing someone as like an equal instead of like maybe having to like try and explain things to him that he wouldn't understand.
	And that's not saying like you both have to have like engineering degrees in order for that to happen.
	Like it can definitely be where maybe like she is some like boss businesswoman, but he's out like doing like I don't know, maybe he's just like doing something like a little bit less.
	Like I don't really, I can't think of any examples.
	It doesn't mean, like, I feel like it's not, it's not so much as something that needs to be put down on paper.
	It's kind of like an everyday kind of thing.
	Like, she wants to be able to talk to him and not feel like she's talking to someone that isn't matching her, like, mentally, if that makes sense.
	I think men also kind of feel, like, from what I've talked to, I feel like I've met more men who like are more comfortable or prefer taking that like breadwinner position.
	Like, a lot of guys I've talked to, like, actually want to engage in that.
	I think for a woman, it's more because only recently, like, when the past 100 years, when I've kind of gotten the rights to do whatever, so it's kind of always trying to work up on an even playing field.
	Versus, I think a lot of men still kind of just want to not all of them, but a lot do.
	Yeah.
	Do you find a lot of women want to fall into the role of like you know?
	I've actually met quite a few who like actually want to do that, especially more like religious people, but it's still pretty common, I'd say.
	Yeah.
	Does anybody else want to come in on this?
	Oh, sorry, did you have more?
	I was just saying in university, it's kind of biased because all the girls here are pursuing like a higher education, so you wouldn't really find that.
	Yeah.
	And obviously, like, sometimes like girls joke about it, like, oh, it'd be so nice to just marry rich and then you don't have to worry about anything.
	But that would be nice.
	That would be nice.
	That would be nice.
	It's the dream.
	But obviously, like, every time, like, I say it personally, like, I mean it as a joke.
	Like, I have my own aspirations.
	What are your aspirations?
	Well, I mean.
	What are you studying again?
	I'm undeclared.
	Oh, okay.
	Like, I don't have any at the moment, but like, I do want to have something of my own.
	Like, if I were to get into a relationship, like, I personally would not want to just live off of everything that he's doing and just have, like, if I want to go grocery shopping, hey, can I get some money to go grocery shopping?
	Like, that's not what I want to do.
	I just want to come in on this really quick.
	So it's kind of interesting because you have, so traditionally, you would have the man providing, and it was more traditional.
	So he'd be the head of the household.
	He'd be the lead, the leader, so to speak.
	And it's interesting to me that women, so you could say that women were submissive to their husbands.
	Wives were submissive to their husbands.
	But you've traded that by being submissive to an employer.
	You now, instead of being submissive to your husband, you are now submissive to an employer.
	And your employer is going to ask, I would say, much more of you than would a husband.
	Well, I mean, wouldn't you also be, like, submissive to an employer?
	Yeah, I mean, we're all submissive to something.
	No, but I'm saying, like, traditionally, if the man, if you were, say, a stay-at-home, you didn't have to go out and labor.
	You didn't have to go out and work.
	You would only be submissive to a husband.
	And the kids and the cleaning and the cooking.
	Yeah.
	I don't think women should be submissive to their children.
	Well, they do have to, like, do everything for them.
	Okay, fair.
	Well, I think as a mother, you're in a position of authority over your children.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Hopefully.
	I get that.
	Yeah.
	Hopefully.
	But no, I mean, I think it's, I just want to clarify something.
	I do think it's really, I think it's great that we've have women in the labor pool.
	I don't want to come off like I'm trying to roll that back or anything.
	But it does, well, I don't want to get too far into it.
	Okay.
	Damn, rip.
	I don't even know where we were going with that.
	But yeah, I guess to bring it back, men are not so, it's not attractive.
	Okay, for me, I've dated women who are doctors.
	I've dated attorneys.
	I've dated pharmacists.
	I've dated professors, cancer researchers, like just the whole slew, right?
	More nurses than I can count.
	Women's careers, to me, don't make them more attractive.
	Like, I'm not more attracted to a girl.
	Oh, you're a doctor.
	Whereas I think a lot of women who are maybe a bit older, you guys probably are not quite yet in the age.
	Maybe, hey, maybe you're down to date a doctor.
	I don't know.
	But most women, like, who are probably in their mid to late 20s, early 30s, a doctor would be a fucking catch.
	I don't give a fuck if a woman's a doctor.
	I'll date a barista.
	I'll date a girl that works at Chick-fil-A because men and women are looking for different things.
	What we're attracted to, there's not always symmetry in what we find attractive in the opposite sex.
	So it's great.
	I think it's great.
	Make your money, like have a career, do something great.
	I actually, I'm in favor of more women getting into STEM.
	I think it'd be wonderful if we had more people researching illnesses, cancers, Alzheimer's.
	I mean, these things are awful.
	And the more manpower, woman power, I guess in this case, we can throw towards these illnesses and diseases, I think would be fantastic.
	But from a dating point of view, I'm not more attracted to a girl because of her career or because of her status or because of her earning potential.
	I just think it's like hella interesting, though, at the end.
	It's like, I feel like a lot of women I do know, probably they would value that.
	Just maybe someone who would provide as well.
	I don't think, I think they'd mind more.
	At least I would if like I was dating like a McDonald's worker.
	Not to be mean of McDonald's workers, but like in 20 years, I don't know if that's the move.
	But I think men also put, I think, a lot more value on like attractiveness than women do.
	And I think women place a lot more value on like hard work and kind of personality.
	Yeah.
	And like ethics, morals.
	Yeah.
	I think it's just like, it's interesting how it's such kind of different in a way in some aspects.
	I personally, if I wasn't working, it would drive me crazy.
	Yeah.
	Like I have to be telling you.
	Once I started like making my own business, it is, I love working.
	It's actually like a lot of people don't like working.
	But since I'm my own boss, I make my own schedule.
	I do everything on my own.
	It's really fun.
	I make, I like, I like working with like the girls, like meeting new people.
	So I like to be treated, but like if I didn't work and the guy was only making the money, that would piss me off.
	Yeah.
	Because I like what I do.
	Yeah.
	By the way, I just want to clarify, like, it's not that I'll date a woman with a career.
	It's not a problem at all.
	It just, to me, it's not like if the woman's a doctor versus if she's a phlebotomist making $17 an hour like or if she works fast food job, I do not like it.
	I don't care.
	If she's coming into the relationship with a lot of debt, then finance is kind of our factor.
	But I mean, it's been my experience actually what's really interesting.
	Like I've encountered women who, I remember once, this was years ago, I was speaking to a litigation attorney, very successful attorney here in Santa Barbara.
	She's probably making $250,000 a year.
	And one of, I don't know why she was so upfront about it, but she's like, yeah, I really want a guy who's going to take me out, pay for my stuff.
	I'm like, hey, you make $250,000 a year.
	The traditional gender roles are out the window when you're making $250,000.
	Like, what?
	You're probably out-earning most of the men who would potentially date you.
	And you still have this expectation that men, I mean.
	I mean, everyone wants to be spoiled.
	Do men want to be spoiled?
	Men can't be spoiled, though.
	Yeah, yeah, no.
	Guys would love it to be bad.
	Men can be spoiled.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, like they would love to just get stuff, right?
	They would love it, but women don't do it.
	That's my experience.
	Yeah, we do.
	Have you ever bought a guy flowers?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I used to bring him drinks in the morning.
	Starbucks.
	Okay, well, you're wifey material.
	Yeah, like.
	I'm probably, I'll pay for a first date.
	Well, we know you're a simp.
	But no, but overall, I think if you ask most men, like, they're going to feel like they have to always be paying for stuff.
	Do you like paying for stuff?
	Do either of you guys?
	Do you willingly pay attention to the pain?
	Do you think you have to do that?
	I'll let Luke go and then I'll answer.
	Yeah, it does because it does reassure you of your whole, like, I don't want to say superiority thing because it's not superiority, but it's like, you know, like, I'm the fucking man.
	Like, I'm out of beta.
	Give you a beta.
	Yeah, it's like you are the one taking care of it.
	You're the one like stepping up, really like exceeding expectations, even though it's like already expected, right?
	Before going into it, like, if you take a girl out, the guy is expected to pay.
	That's just a societal standard.
	And, you know, I'm fine with it.
	I don't really give a shit.
	If a girl pays for my food, fucking great.
	Just like you guys said.
	Again, if a girl spoils me, that's fantastic.
	You know, I'm all for it.
	But, you know, 90% of the time, I'm the one that's asking a girl out.
	And I said this last time, too.
	If you ask someone out, you should be the one paying for the date.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	If a girl asks a guy out, they should pay.
	If I ask a girl out, because you are taking her out.
	Whereas if, and again, a lot of girls don't take guys out.
	Yeah, let's go around the table real quick.
	I'll let you continue, though.
	Have you ever asked, well, I'm going to start over here.
	Have you ever asked a guy out on the date?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	No.
	I don't think so.
	No, but I also don't go on dates.
	No, I don't think so.
	I think I have.
	You were blacked out.
	This was one of your blacked out moments.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, the thing is, though, like, the whole thing with that is just women aren't really asking guys out.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's scary.
	I don't know.
	Isn't it scary for men too?
	Yes, it's scary both parts.
	And here's the interesting thing on that.
	As a woman, if you do ask a guy out, actually, your chances compared to men, your chances of getting a positive response are actually very high compared to when a guy asks a woman out.
	You have a much higher likelihood of it being a good reception from the guy if you ask him out.
	Whereas a lot of dudes play number, like dudes have to play the number game.
	We get fucking rejected.
	I'll say this, like, and I brought this up, I think, on our podcast.
	When it comes to dating apps, for example, for most men on dating apps, I'd say that 80% of men, the bottom 80%, maybe bottom 70% of men, being on the dating app is like playing Russian roulette with your self-esteem.
	And every chamber of the cylinder is loaded.
	So it's a foregone conclusion.
	Foregone conclusion as a guy.
	Here's motorcycle guy again.
	Foregone conclusion that you're going to get destroyed on the dating app as a guy.
	That's most men's experience.
	But anyway, sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off there if you want to continue with your.
	Oh, oh, paying, I think it was.
	Like, and you're saying whoever asked should pay, and then you kind of went into saying if you get fast out, whoever women aren't.
	No, yeah.
	Again, I'm fine with paying.
	Again, if I see there's something going forward with it, then I'll be like, hey, I'll pay.
	But it's such a gray area because I want to say it should be 50-50 on a date.
	But at the same time, I don't know.
	There's something fulfilling about paying for an expensive dish, but then looking back at your banking game and be like, fuck.
	I always fight for the check.
	I always fight for it.
	But do you win ever?
	I have to wait.
	Or is it like a gesture?
	Is it like a she dates homeless guys?
	She's winning.
	She's winning.
	There you go.
	I will say I don't mind paying for it.
	So I didn't mean to cut you off, by the way.
	If you want to continue with your.
	I wouldn't mind 50-50 because I get that it's fair, but also it is nice having the guy pay.
	Yeah.
	Like if I do offer, like, are you sure?
	And I would 100% be okay with that.
	I'm not going to say it if I'm not okay with it.
	And if he's like, yeah.
	And I'll be like, okay.
	But if he's like, no, no, no, no, like, don't worry about it.
	Like, it's nice.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Everyone agree with that.
	So you'd prefer to have the guy pay on the date.
	Let me ask.
	So he asks you on the date, but the check comes and he says, hey, let's get separate checks.
	Are you going to feel a certain type of way about that?
	Yeah.
	I don't think so.
	Wait, I thought you said you fight for the check, though.
	Yeah, I guess.
	I mean, I'd rather pay for it all and not.
	Oh, you'd rather, okay.
	I'd rather pay for it all.
	But you'll still be interested in the guy.
	Yeah.
	Even if you pay for it.
	Okay.
	I think I said.
	I think you said.
	No.
	Wait.
	Wait, what was the question?
	Yeah, sorry.
	The guy asked you out.
	You get dinner or whatever, maybe.
	You get dinner and then he says, hey, let's get separate checks.
	Are you going to feel a certain type of way about that?
	I don't think so.
	You in the mindset.
	Okay.
	I mean, like, if he asked me out and asked for separate checks, like, at the end of the date, I mean, I'd pay.
	Like, I don't care, but it would just kind of be like, oh, like, that's not really what you expected.
	I, like, wouldn't say no.
	Like, again, I'd be okay with that.
	But then I feel like it is something to consider.
	Like, it's not an immediate, like, I'm never going to hang out with this guy again, but it is just something, like, to consider the fact that he asked you out and then he brought up separate checks.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, especially if you're going somewhere like Chick-fil-A.
	I'm not splitting half it with you.
	If it's somewhere nice, maybe.
	Yeah, maybe if it's cheap, you want him to pay.
	But if it's expensive, then you're going to pay.
	No, no, no.
	Like, I'd understand if it was cheap and he asked to split it and it was like a $25 meal, I'd be like, why did you ask me out then if you couldn't afford that?
	But if it's somewhere very nice and you're having issues, that's fine.
	But I don't know.
	I think you should be aware of your circumstances sometimes because what if the other person can't afford it?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I agree with what you're saying.
	It's really just depending on where we're going.
	And at the same time, I don't mind because I don't really go on dates with the intention of the guy has to pay.
	I've gone to Chick-fil-A and just paid.
	I think it's a flex.
	I think it's a flex.
	I agree with you, but as an egalitarian.
	By the way, y'all said you were a feminist.
	But when it comes to who should pay on the first date, how do you recognize that?
	Asks who asks.
	If I asked a guy on a date, I would pay for that date.
	Like, dead ass.
	Why would you ask someone, can you go to dinner with me?
	If I'm saying, hey, do you want to?
	Oh, you go.
	There you go.
	Start it.
	You go.
	Okay.
	But okay, if you're with a friend, if you're with a friend and you're just like, hey, do you want to grab dinner?
	Are you going to pay for your friend's dinner?
	Well, the friend is different.
	If it's a friend, we're going in knowing it's you pay for yourself.
	Or even like you split it or 50-50 if you're splitting.
	But we even do sometimes now is just like, I'll take this one, you get the next one.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's the favorite thing to do.
	I agree.
	Just fit with your egalitarian mindset.
	Okay, I mean, so I have a take that pisses both men and women off on this one.
	Because you do make a good point, Luke.
	And yes, it is, it's not going to hurt you to pay for the date.
	It might have some little benefit.
	I mean, it does put you in a bit more of a leadership position to pay for it.
	And you're demonstrating that, you know, kind of the provisioning thing, providing.
	But, oh man, I can't do it, guys.
	I can't.
	There's a few scenarios where I am willing to pay.
	But I think you should each pay your own bill.
	Because one, foodie calls.
	People are just not going in.
	And I've had these experiences.
	People are not genuinely going on dates with sometimes, not all the time, but sometimes they're not going in with like a genuine interest.
	Sometimes a girl will just be like, I guess I'll go.
	I'm kind of bored.
	There will be girls that just want a free meal.
	That's happened to a lot of dudes.
	Like, they just want a free meal.
	To me, I don't really, to me, that doesn't make sense to do that time-wise.
	But I guess it happens, especially if you're, I don't do dinner dates, by the way.
	But even if it's just for a drink, we each get two drinks, a glass of wine.
	That's a lot.
	Yeah, you...
	Wait, what?
	That's expensive.
	Drinks are expensive.
	Drinks like $10 a drink.
	But still, yeah, you can pay.
	You can pay your, you'll pay for yours.
	I'll pay for mine.
	There was, I mean, the only exception I'll do it.
	And by the way, if I'm dating women within my age cohort, older, like say older professional women, then yes, I'm going to say, hey, we're going to split.
	But if I'm dating someone younger, 18, 19, 20, 21, then I'll pay.
	And if I'm in a relationship with her and I say, hey, I want to go to Hawaii, let's go.
	I'm going to pay for the whole thing.
	Yes.
	But if I'm dating a litigation attorney, we're going to split that vacation.
	Like, we're going to split that up, you know?
	But if she wants to pay for me, though, okay.
	There's no, I'm waiting for the female simps out there, though.
	I was going to say something on the first date thing.
	And like, I don't think I've ever taken a girl out to a restaurant on a first date.
	It's always been something fun and interactive.
	Like, yeah, because it's basic.
	Yeah.
	You don't want to just kind of play.
	It's awkward.
	Yeah.
	It's awkward.
	Yeah, dinner dates are bad.
	And then you don't do dinner dates.
	You can also kind of see like, if you go to the beach or go on a hike.
	Sunset walk.
	Exactly.
	It's much more interactive, number one.
	It's intimate.
	And intimate.
	And it's free.
	So you can actually see them without being like, fuck, am I just paying for some like foodie thing?
	And then if you like them, you can say, hey, do you want to get something to eat after this?
	Yeah.
	Go get ice cream.
	Yeah.
	Whatever.
	Yeah, I'd much rather go to the beach with someone than like a horror movie, is it?
	I'm on a first date.
	We got tattoos.
	Movies are the worst first date.
	They're the worst.
	You can't talk to them.
	Yeah, you're not going to talk.
	No, no, no.
	You're just staring at the screen.
	You're not even looking at people.
	You're facing it.
	You can't get to know him.
	You can't do anything.
	Yeah, I think that's a good question.
	Not for a first date, but in general, like for me.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But not on the first date.
	Not getting to know each other.
	Yeah.
	Definitely facts.
	Okay, we've got a couple super chats here, and then we're going to react to a video, and then we'll probably wrap up in maybe 20 minutes or so.
	Okay, so I think this one.
	Okay.
	Mike Dust with the $10 Super Chat rating for the ladies left to right.
	365654.
	Okay.
	Do you guys want to shoot any shots back at Mike Dust for his rating?
	I don't even know which way left is right to the lady.
	From their ladies left to right.
	I think it's from here to back.
	Left?
	That's what I'm going to do.
	I'll take it.
	Okay.
	Mike Dust with the official $10 Super Chat rating.
	Thank you, man.
	Okay, so I want us to.
	Actually, before we pull up a video, I've got a question for all of us.
	Or I guess you guys.
	Okay, so would you say, this one's a little spicy.
	Would you say you're good in bed?
	I've been told.
	Okay.
	Why?
	I have to say specific.
	I mean, there's just one, I guess one thing.
	I've been told that I don't know.
	Say it.
	Oh, no.
	That again absolutely violated GoFundMe.
	I've heard my head games go.
	I don't know.
	Oh, my God.
	That's what I've been told.
	What is it?
	My head game.
	Okay.
	I guess that's the one thing I've been told.
	What is the thing from Color Daddy?
	The Gluck Lux.
	3,000.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	You don't know?
	Okay, maybe you do know.
	Maybe you do know.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	You're like questioning what I'm going to say.
	I don't want to get into details.
	A yes is fine.
	I've been told yes, so yeah.
	I would say yes based off of what I've been told.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Like, honestly.
	I mean, I think like average.
	I'd say average.
	I think yes, based off the review.
	You got Yelpers reviews.
	You get five stung at the end.
	Just give them your phone and make them write down an in-depth.
	Have you guys seen those Google quizzes that you send them out?
	I feel like you're rate me and they rate it.
	Wait, that's a lot of fun.
	You said a Google form, like Google Forms.
	I've seen a few of them.
	Like one out of ten, like rate how good I was at kitchening or something.
	Yeah, like how good was I saying, how good was I in bed?
	Whichever.
	Would you hook up with me again?
	Yes or no?
	Yeah, they give you a rate, like the Google Form.
	You get a link sent to you.
	You guys have received those?
	No.
	It's like a trend.
	Like, we've seen people do it on the internet.
	Yeah.
	Like, very people we don't know have done it.
	It's probably like the best reviews because if you're asking your ex, they'll probably be like brutally honest.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Something like that.
	I mean, the only thing I've ever had a girl fill out is a BDSM questionnaire.
	Oh, I've done that too.
	Maybe the right skin.
	Oh, rice purity.
	BDSMTest.org.
	Are you knowing that?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Do you guys want to share your rice purity?
	Yeah, there's guys.
	So are you almost there?
	So for those who don't know, you can look up rice purity tests, and there's, I think, 100 questions.
	Yeah.
	It's 100 questions, and it ranges from like held hands, been seen nude, all this, to like, beasts.
	Yeah, yeah, like in incest.
	And for every one of them you mark off, your score goes down.
	And the lower score.
	Yeah, depending on what you want, a lower score means you've done more, but it also means you're more wild.
	I think mine was in like the 30s.
	Yeah.
	I think mine was.
	I don't remember like the last time.
	I don't.
	I think mine's like in the 60s or 70s.
	Is that high or low?
	So it's like the more you check off, if you've done nothing, it's 100.
	And then each thing you do, it loads it.
	So like, so like zero is like, baths are red flag.
	You've done some shit.
	Yeah.
	I would say just somewhere below 50s.
	Won't specify how much.
	I would say somewhere around 50.
	Luke?
	I think when mine was like 38 to 45.
	Okay, okay.
	I haven't taken it.
	You should take it right, take it right.
	No, no, no.
	You should start the next show with that.
	Everyone has to take the rest before the show.
	Can we take a minute?
	But you have to be dry honest.
	Yeah, once you cannot lie.
	One thing I've wanted to do is like before the show, have the girls take screenshots of their dating profiles.
	And then we do a review.
	Oh, that would be funny.
	That's a good one.
	And then we all go left or right.
	We could do that.
	That could be fun.
	But unfortunately, yeah, we'd have to set that up before the show.
	So related to my last question, who do you think that the quality of sex is more important to?
	Men or women?
	100%.
	Yeah.
	I feel like both.
	I feel like it's a mutual effort that you've got to put in.
	Luke, what are you saying?
	It's more important to women.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'm a pillow princess.
	Wait, no.
	Pillow princess.
	Is that just.
	You just lay there.
	Hey, but she's good in bed, so it's worth it.
	Okay, so I guess this is sort of me trying to.
	Verks, thank you very much.
	We'll get to that in a sec, but thank you for the $10 Super Chat, Verx, and thank you for the.
	For some reason, Super Chat, or sorry, StreamYard does not show when people gift memberships.
	So unfortunately, if I missed any of them, I'm sorry, guys.
	But Verx, thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
	We'll get to that momentarily.
	So sorry, I lost my train of thought.
	Is it harder to be good in bed as a man or a woman?
	I think it's harder for a man.
	Yeah, I think it's harder for men, yeah.
	pillow princess um um i think men yeah yeah Girls are always dissatisfied with sex.
	Women are dissatisfied with sex.
	Yeah, like all the time.
	Like, you'll always hear that.
	And like, guys can never even make them come.
	So it's also like most women can't get off their penetration.
	Like, I can't scientifically prove it.
	I definitely have to put in more work.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Or get a toy.
	They satisfy themselves, and then that's kind of it.
	They don't do anything.
	Yes.
	Wait, so.
	I don't know where I want to go with this.
	Okay, so do you guys are you guys able to come with a partner?
	No.
	No.
	Or have you ever?
	Because last show we had a girl come on and she was like, yep, never, a guy's never been able to get me off.
	Not like, it's very rare.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Like, once.
	Wow.
	That blows my mind.
	Yeah.
	No.
	And you've had, you said you'd had like a long-term relationship, right?
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay.
	Yeah, but we have the same kind of thing happening.
	Wait, we'll go around.
	Go ahead.
	No.
	You've never orgasmed from a partner.
	No.
	And by the way, I just to make something clear, it could be even foreplay, like if he goes down on you, fingers, nothing.
	Nothing.
	Wow, okay.
	Never.
	Yes.
	You have.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So you four, never.
	I don't.
	And then you rarely.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	That blows my mind.
	I'm telling you all the time.
	Okay.
	You guys got to find some better guys.
	Yeah.
	Crazy.
	A lot of guys, a lot of guys, they finish and then they kind of just, then you're done.
	Or they think it takes like three minutes for you.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, some women can come very quick.
	Yeah, not me.
	Not me.
	Not anymore.
	Like, they actually come.
	Yeah.
	How do you know?
	Yeah, like, what if they?
	I mean, they could lie, someone and fake organs.
	A lot of women.
	A lot of women.
	Someone can fake orgasms.
	He can't.
	He's like, I know you faked it.
	Actually, I think at least every woman I've talked to has faked it at least once.
	That's bad.
	You guys shouldn't fake.
	Should not fake.
	A guy can tell.
	Can they?
	I think they can.
	A guy that's actually made some good stuff.
	Yeah, if they don't fail.
	Wait, but so I just question.
	This is now a sex therapy show.
	So have you guys, but can you guys bring yourself to climax?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	No.
	Yes.
	No?
	Wait, no.
	No.
	I don't.
	Have you ever climaxed, really?
	Ever?
	But have you tried?
	Like, have self-ing.
	Huh.
	Because I would say that, you know, something that does come up, yes, like a lot of guys are not doing their job in bed, not getting girls to climax.
	But if you can't even get yourself to climax.
	I don't blame them for it.
	Like, I'm not.
	I don't know.
	But I would say it would lend itself to a more satisfying sex life and a more satisfying relationship if you could.
	I've thought about it.
	Climax.
	Wait, but, and by the way, if this is too prodding or too invasive, my mom, if you're watching this, anyone who watches, my mom will probably watch this.
	Do you, have you tried?
	No.
	That's your point.
	Well, what do you, like, by myself?
	Masturbating, yeah.
	No.
	Really?
	No.
	Wait, wait.
	Oh.
	And is it just you don't have the drive or the want or the desire?
	I just like don't really feel it.
	Better than any man.
	Actually, imagine if you've ever like actually experienced that, I don't like there would be, you don't know what exactly urge or like whatever before.
	Yeah.
	Maybe, yeah, just avoid it for the rest of your life and then you'll, yeah.
	But yeah, that's, that's pretty, I mean, that's pretty surprising to me, though.
	Wow.
	Rip.
	Oh, yeah.
	Guys, in the chat, for the women who have never climaxed with a partner, can we get some candle vigils?
	Some skulls in the chat.
	Can you blow it out?
	It smells cheap.
	You don't like the smell?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, actually, you know what?
	Mike Davis, he dipped.
	So no, we can just.
	Just blow it out.
	Just blow it out.
	Thank you, thank you.
	Come back, Mike Davis.
	Come back, Mike Davis.
	Yes.
	Wow, that blows my mind.
	Damn.
	Rip?
	Okay.
	Rip free.
	So all right, people.
	So next to the video.
	By the way, guys, going back to the condom thing, you know, if it'll make you last longer, just stay strapped.
	Yeah, this is like a condoman.
	Better safe than sorry.
	Yeah.
	I actually find that condoms.
	Never mind.
	Never mind.
	You want to finish that sentence?
	Never mind.
	But yeah, I guess.
	Well, also the thing with that, I think most women, it's very difficult for them to orgasm just from penetration.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah.
	Anyways, okay, moving on.
	Moving on.
	I saw someone say it was a mental block, and I could agree with that.
	A mental block?
	Yeah.
	I think it's easier for women when they're more, as they become more comfortable with a guy to come.
	I don't know.
	I have a big old mental block at all.
	Good times.
	Those are the best.
	The mental blocks.
	Okay, Eric, can you go ahead and actually hold on just a sec.
	Let me highlight a couple of these.
	Boom.
	Thank you guys for all the interaction in the chat, guys.
	Much appreciated.
	So we're going to react to a video.
	Pull up the Andrew Tate clip.
	No!
	No!
	I knew it was coming.
	It was coming.
	I'm not sure which one I want to see.
	Actually, sorry, Eric, bring it back.
	We're back really quick.
	I wanted to ask.
	Okay, yes, before, yeah.
	I want to get the super chat really quick that came in.
	Sorry about that, Verx.
	Okay, so Verks, body count.
	He's asking for body count, so we'll go around the table.
	We'll ask for body count.
	We'll start with you.
	I don't know, and I don't want.
	Wait, you don't?
	I don't know it.
	Because you're blacked out for all of them or what?
	Oh, not blacked out.
	Before.
	Before the it's borderline.
	It's a borderline.
	Here, pull the microphone.
	Sorry.
	I don't know it, and I don't really want to share what I might be.
	I will not disclose that information.
	I already said mine.
	You said two, right?
	Above zero.
	Above zero.
	Oh, no, shit.
	Yeah, is it above zero?
	One or higher.
	Not really.
	I'm just going to stay silent.
	Luke.
	Seven.
	You know what?
	I should have asked first to have maybe gotten a few more people.
	Sorry, Verks.
	They did not want to answer this question.
	I should have asked, does body count matter?
	And then we should have done this.
	So I'll do this in a reverse order.
	Should body count matter?
	To an extent.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'm going to agree with that.
	Yeah.
	To an extent, yeah.
	To an extent.
	to an extent yeah as long as it's not like if it's not like triple digits As long as it's not triple digits.
	Okay, wait.
	As long as you're like safe about it, like you don't know what someone did in their past.
	So like, I'd say, like, body count doesn't really matter if they don't.
	Like, let's say there's a guy with like a really high body count.
	Like, if he doesn't, like, make it like a flex, like a personality trait.
	Like, I feel like it really shouldn't matter.
	Yeah, that's weird.
	If a guy's like, oh, this is my body count.
	Congrats, number 100.
	It'd be weird to tell a girl, like, oh, I have a high body count.
	I think that'd be not a good move.
	It's like a turnoff, yeah.
	I honestly don't care.
	I don't care either.
	I think there is some matter to it.
	Yes, it is an issue.
	Yeah.
	That's it?
	Look.
	No, I think if you have a really, if you have a high body count.
	What's high for you?
	Okay, like anything.
	This is controversial.
	I think anything over 10 is like, okay, relax.
	And then anything over 15 is like, okay, you're just a Port Atlanta hoe at that point.
	Like, you can't hold down a guy for more than like two months.
	Even if it's just casual sex.
	If it's just casual sex, like revisit hooking up with them if you enjoyed it.
	Why do you have to go and seek out a hundred different parts?
	I enjoy.
	Yeah, I mean, that goes back to the whole.
	So for men, our sexual strategy is to obtain.
	And I think women's metric of success when it comes to men is retaining the man.
	But yeah.
	And as far as the girls' body counts, which they omitted that answer to and they did not want to answer.
	Hey, multiply it by three.
	That's the real number.
	Wait, what?
	Did everyone?
	I think everyone missed it.
	Here, I'll do it again.
	That was my fault.
	Multiply it by three.
	That's the real number.
	And that girl lies about it.
	I mean.
	You guys want to give us ranges?
	I can give a range.
	Okay.
	I think.
	Yeah, yeah, go for it.
	I feel like what?
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	I want to hear it too.
	Let's hear the range.
	One through four.
	Somewhere in there.
	That's not bad at all.
	Somewhere in there.
	I mean, I could say like one to 50.
	Y'all would never know.
	Is it more than 10?
	No.
	More than 10?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Appreciate the honesty.
	Respect.
	And you?
	More than 10?
	No, not more than 10.
	More than 5?
	No.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Oh, my God.
	I can't do this.
	It's so long.
	You can't pry out of me.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So we're going to pull up the video.
	Can you pull up the body count, Mr. Andrew Taylor?
	Is it the 19th?
	You know what's so attractive about younger women?
	Because a lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and stuff.
	I don't actually think it's that.
	I think that in the modern world.
	Can you boost the idea of that?
	In the days of old, right?
	You'd meet a woman, you get married, you'd be together, whatever.
	In the modern world, if I meet a girl who's 33 and single, I know the amount of dick that's been through her before me is just simply unattractive.
	I don't care how nice you are, but you're 33 years old.
	How many men have fun?
	If I got a 19-year-old girl, I might be your second or third man, right?
	I'm going to be dude number fucking 29.
	And all the trauma and heartbreak and bullshit they put you through, you're going to try and bring to my door?
	Like, well, my last man cheat.
	I don't give a fuck.
	Yeah, like I don't care.
	Like, why is that my problem?
	So, if you pick up older women, you have to accept they've been on the carousel longer, they've had more fucking rides, more spins.
	I don't want that shit.
	When I see a beautiful young woman, I know that she has a very low body count, and that, and also, no, but no, but the truth is this: women's mentality is absolutely connected to sex.
	If a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, it's harder to penetrate her mind and make her fall unattractive, too.
	And it's unattractive, isn't it?
	But if she's had 30 dudes inside of her, is she really gonna think, you know what, this guy's so, so, so special, or she's gonna think, you know, like he talked to me, Rudolph, go get a new guy.
	Whereas if a woman's only been with a few guys, she's much more likely to fall in love with you, be a better partner.
	The likelihood of her falling completely in love with you and staying loyal to you and really believing you're the only man for her, after being through so much trauma and so many men and sleeping with so many dudes and having her heart broken and having those memories of her ex and all that crap she's been through, is far less likely than meeting a nice young, beautiful girl who hasn't been with many men and she goes.
	You know what?
	This is the guy I like in her.
	Every woman who knows this and every man who watches this can be honest.
	Women fall in love with the person they lose their virginity to, or their second or third guy.
	They really remember them.
	They really love them.
	Anyone who slept with 50 dude she doesn't even remember who most of them are.
	She doesn't care if a woman slept with a bunch of men before you.
	She's less likely to stick it out through a difficult period in a relationship.
	She's more likely to just think, you know what?
	New answers, new dating.
	It's a pretty good answer and that's the truth.
	Let me make something clear.
	If I meet a beautiful 30 year old woman, i'm not saying I won't sleep with her.
	That's pretty fucking old.
	Yeah 30, I know what are you crazy?
	I there's been times I was drunk.
	Your guys' reaction to the video.
	I just don't like Andrew Tate at all.
	Yeah, he really pisses me off.
	Yeah, just he really pisses me off.
	Maybe he says this, like if your body count is high, that means you can't be in a good relationship.
	That's basically like what he's saying and like you can't be lower in a relationship, you can't have a good connection with someone just because your body count is high.
	And like I feel like like some guys are like oh, like she has to be really good in bed, but her body count can't be like two, like can't be more than two.
	Yeah, that's like very hypocritical about it because like, your body count is very high, based on the way you're saying it, because he's like yeah, i'll fuck her anyways, but like yeah, Andrew Tate does have a high body.
	Yeah yeah, so like it doesn't make sense, but but it's okay to address that thing.
	I mean I and we sort of already talked about it but I mean it's most men, it's pretty hard as a woman to be actively bad in bed.
	Like you have to fuck up.
	Pretty bad to be bad in bed as a woman, like most women, like most guys, even if you're like a pillow princess, it's still like, it's still gonna feel good for you as a guy, I mean as a guy or a girl for the guy oh okay yeah um so and, and if the guy knows what he's doing, he's gonna be able to make it work.
	If he knows how to lead in the bedroom, he's he knows how to.
	If I a guy, kind of like if they could flip you around they could do shit, go for it.
	But yeah, if the guy's dominant, like he knows he knows what he's doing like a guy can take a woman who's a virgin and have great sex with her.
	I'm not so sure if the opposite is true.
	If a woman can take a guy who's a virgin and have mind-blowing sex the first time they have sex, very true.
	So your reaction to the Andrew Tate video, um honestly, it just sounds like he's not into girls.
	Who knows what she wants, like he was like oh, like it just seems like he wants a younger girl who's still like exploring relationships and like obviously, when you're, he said like 30 maturity, you're mature, you you'd probably know what you want in a relationship at that point and I think he's just butthurt that that's not him I know.
	Disregarding everything, Andrew Tate is like a cunt.
	I'm glad I got A bad person.
	No, but that's what I focus on is he literally beat a woman again.
	Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
	And then he went to Romania and was like, erroneous!
	Erroneous!
	Fake news.
	I've seen the video.
	Like, you saw the video the way he was talking to the woman.
	The way he views cheating pisses me off so much.
	Hold on, I'll get to that.
	I just want to address the alleged women beating thing.
	So it was reported in the media that there's a video that came out where he was, I think, whipping a girl's ass with a belt or something like that.
	Talking, saying some stuff.
	So that woman came out and said, hey, we're into kinky stuff.
	It was all consensual.
	It was BDSM.
	But, okay, but.
	So the media, I mean, there was a concerted effort by the media to, they were trying to do reputation destruction.
	So there's the whole him abusing a woman in that way.
	That's been debunked.
	She came, the woman in the video herself came out and said, hey, multiple times, it was totally consensual.
	Like, we're just into some kinky shit.
	I had something to say.
	Go ahead.
	Before, before we, yeah.
	So even if that was like some kinky shit, like, I feel like if you speak to a woman in the way, like, I don't know if you've watched the videos, but like, that was disgusting.
	Like, even if it's like a kink, I guess, like, it's a little bit more.
	There are women who are into degradation.
	Yeah, I get it.
	There's a degradation kink.
	So women who are turned on when the guy's like, you're a fucking dumpster, you're a whore, like all that stuff.
	Yeah, but it's not even what he was saying.
	Not my cup of tea.
	He was literally like, I'm going to beat the fuck out of you.
	Like, that's not, that's not.
	I mean, there's, I mean.
	And the beating woman thing wasn't even about that video.
	It was about him getting kicked off Big Brother or something like that.
	Well, he got kicked off Big Brother because of that video.
	No, because I thought it was because he like punched someone or something.
	On the show?
	It was the, if you're right about that, then I'm wrong.
	So that's on me.
	But like, I don't know.
	I still can't support him.
	I was like.
	Yeah, and then he said.
	There's other, I'm sure you can probably find other things to criticize him on.
	Yeah, but a lot of people.
	Like the whole, just the, I'm moving to Romania because they persecute men less because of the sex laws in general.
	You can have your, that's just like not a good thing to say in general.
	Like, I don't.
	It makes you a bad person, like, by association of those words.
	Yeah.
	Wait, so did someone else want to, did you give your take?
	Who, did you want to give your take on the video, your reaction to the Andrew Tate video we just watched?
	Oh, I think he's just a hypocrite.
	I'm just asking a lot from a girl.
	5XDM wants me to ask, ask if they like being choked.
	Okay, I guess fine.
	Since we're on the topic, do you like to be choked?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Yes.
	Aha.
	Luke?
	No.
	Do you, actually, this is kind of an interesting conversation.
	Will you choke a girl?
	Yeah.
	But is it something that the girl asks for, or is it something that you kind of enjoy doing to be kind of more dominant?
	Because honestly, I feel it's like, I don't really want to do that shit.
	Like, I'll do it if it turns my girl on.
	If it turns her on, I'll do it.
	Yeah.
	But, like, it's usually the girl that wants asking for it.
	I mean, it's not like, I don't know.
	There's no pleasure in guys for it.
	I think there's something weird if you like, you're like, oh, fuck, this is so unbad.
	I'm soaking her out.
	Okay, bro.
	Well, there's definitely a say this.
	Yeah.
	BDSM.
	Yeah.
	All that stuff.
	It's kind of interesting.
	I feel like there's a rough sex meta.
	Yeah, and it's kind of, I don't know.
	I mean, okay, okay.
	So I'll just share this.
	For me, the whole rough sex thing is I love it when a girl will just drag her nails down my back.
	I love that.
	No pain.
	I kind of fuck with that.
	Like, if there's scratch marks on my back, I'm like, all right, that's bad.
	That's good.
	I don't know.
	I think that's proof of passion.
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	A lot of guys like it.
	That's just me, though.
	No, because I also feel like when a girl does that, it usually means they're actually enjoying themselves.
	Yeah.
	And again, that's not something.
	I feel like girls could ask for choking, but like a guy's not going to be like scratched by that.
	Like, believe me.
	I mean, I don't know how to do it.
	I dare to differ.
	I had a guy ask.
	There has been.
	We'll always get corrected.
	Okay, how did we?
	Oh, Andrew Tate.
	Okay, and so some of you mentioned something about wait, so did you get to go?
	Right.
	Okay.
	So you guys mentioned something about, was it age or something?
	Like, what was that about?
	I don't know.
	Oh, just the glorification of like younger women.
	Yeah, because he said, he said that 18, 19-year-olds are more attractive because they've been through less dick.
	That's one of the reasons that younger women are more attractive.
	Yes.
	That's what he said.
	Because I think a lot of men care about body count.
	That's just for me.
	Look, Andrew Tate.
	A 30-year-old could have a body count of 5, and a 19-year-old could have a body count of 50.
	But if you're a betting man, probably more likely than not, younger women are going to have a lower body count, older women are going to have a higher body count.
	And that 19-year-old is going to have more bodies by the time she's 29 than when she's 19.
	So that's one of the reasons I think why men, and men value sexual purity in women.
	Now that could mean virginity, but that could also mean low body count.
	I mean, I get that, but like promoting that so actively as he do.
	Like he's like stating it as fact.
	Like this is how it is.
	You're doing this.
	You have trauma.
	I have to deal with it.
	And everything's about what you're causing to him and how you should just view women like that.
	And I think that in and of itself is really like a toxic mindset.
	And I don't, I don't know.
	It's kind of sad.
	I feel bad for him.
	Wait, so it's toxic that he wants a woman with a low body count?
	No, you can, if you want that, go for it.
	Like you can have that.
	But just the fact he's online just continuously spewing, this is exactly, this is why every man views this and this is why like every younger woman should be more, should be seen as more desirable.
	I don't know.
	And he keeps on talking about how their trauma affects me because when they're older, they have more trauma and it's so much more difficult.
	And I don't, that's also like extremely fucked up.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I feel like it's different guys preferring guys preferring girls who have low body counts and guys telling girls that they need to have a low body count.
	Like it's very, it's similar, but there's slight differences.
	And it seems like Andrew Tate is telling girls you need to have a low body count.
	I thought, didn't you say you want men to be up front?
	And to be honest?
	So.
	So we are being, he is being very honest.
	He's not sugarcoating it.
	A lot of men are not going to be.
	I would say most men have a preference for women.
	Probably the vast majority of men would have a preference for women with a low body count.
	There's a subset of them that would be upfront about that and be willing to share that.
	A lot of men are not going to, even your guy friends, you might ask them, there's a good chance that they're not going to be upfront with you about that sort of thing.
	Especially a guy who's romantically pursuing you.
	He's going to be like, oh, it's okay, baby.
	I don't care.
	Because he doesn't want to say anything that could potentially tank his courtship.
	Let's just say.
	Well, I'm saying if a guy wants a girl with a low body count and he, and that's something he's like super adamant about, go ahead, find one.
	But telling girls that like, like, you can do what like girls should be able to do whatever they want.
	And so, like, having guys tell them you can't, you cannot have a high body count is different than being like, I want a girl with a low body count.
	He's presenting it as fact versus opinion.
	And I think that's where, like, the issue.
	Well, what is the fact that he's presenting?
	That women who aren't like younger are visibly more attractive and they have way more to offer when it comes to that.
	Like, higher body count.
	That's what I meant.
	Lower body count.
	I don't.
	Okay.
	My last relationship, body count was never talked about.
	Like, we never.
	Shut the microphone down towards you slightly.
	There you go.
	Perfect.
	Body count was never talked about.
	Like, we never asked each other.
	It was never a thing that we brought up.
	So I don't think it really matters.
	If you're going to ask about it, then ask, but I don't think it's.
	If you really, yeah, like she said, if you really want someone with a low body count, go find that.
	But if you're attracted to someone, you're attracted to someone.
	Yeah, I mean, I guess I would say this.
	Earlier on in the conversation, you guys said that, and I don't want to misquote you, so if I am, feel free to jump in.
	But a lot of you said that you think hookup culture is not such a good thing.
	So how do you reconcile having that belief, but also he's, I mean, essentially saying women should have a low body count is saying women should not engage in hookup culture.
	Because if you engage in hookup culture, you're having casual sex.
	Women should not be promiscuous.
	Women.
	He's saying women should not be promiscuous.
	Women should not have should not have a high body count.
	How do you not have a high body count?
	Not have indiscriminate sex, not have casual sex, not engage in hookup culture.
	If you I mean, if you're just having long-term relationships and valuing long-term relationships, then more likely than not, you're going to have a low body count.
	So I guess my question is, how do you reconcile saying hookup culture is not this great thing?
	But also he's essentially saying don't do hookup culture, don't have a high body count.
	Is it the double standard that you feel like it's directed more towards women or go ahead?
	I don't even know if I'm touching on the subject we're supposed to be talking about.
	Go ahead, just come on.
	But I don't know, like, you could not be in hookup culture and still have.
	Okay, wait, let me rephrase that.
	You could not be in a long-term relationship, but also not be in hookup culture.
	I think my co-worker and I talk about this all the time because we both kind of have the same views on this.
	But like we're, I don't know, like, I guess, like, the standards that we have for men makes it so that like we just don't hook up with anyone.
	We don't, like, so our body count doesn't go up.
	And I mean, neither of us are in relationships either, so.
	And haven't been for a while.
	Yeah.
	I mean.
	See, I don't, that's what I'm saying.
	Well, yeah, I mean, we're touching on the subject we're supposed to be.
	Well, no, it's more.
	You don't have to be in a relationship.
	I mean, someone who's never even had a boyfriend ever, she might be virgin.
	So.
	And in your case, you've alleged body count is too.
	It is.
	Yeah, it's too.
	I'm not doubting it.
	But, okay, did anyone else want to come in?
	I don't know.
	I feel like I'm not the biggest fan of D platforming in general.
	But I can thoroughly say I don't like the guy.
	I don't like his opinions, but I mean that's just kind of how it is.
	There's always going to be someone online who you're not going to agree with if I don't want to support him.
	Yeah.
	My prerogative.
	Anybody else want to come in on it?
	Okay, so we're going to wrap up here pretty soon.
	I want to do final thoughts.
	So if you have a final thought or question for someone else on the panel, you have some dating advice you want to ask Luke.
	He's a dating expert, a dating coach.
	So if you guys have final thought or question for the panel, I want to open it up.
	I don't know.
	Do you want me to come back to you?
	Yeah, I think I'm good.
	Yeah.
	I don't think I have anything to say.
	Any questions, final thoughts?
	Nothing really more to say.
	I think I've learned that maybe I should ask somebody else.
	Might be easier than that.
	I did learn that too.
	Body counts.
	I feel like girls just, you know, do you and like, don't.
	You only live once.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But yeah, I mean, do it for the plot.
	Stir the final thought.
	My final thought on the whole body count thing, and this is why I think it's important to not have the highest body count or to sleep around just like whimsically, like sleep with whoever the fuck you want, is because, and I said this last week, I think there's an energy transfer that happens when you have sex with someone.
	You know, you're literally letting somebody inside of you or you're connecting on a more spiritual level.
	The most, like, the most vulnerable you could get with someone.
	Exactly.
	So I think the fact that a lot of people go straight to, oh, this person's attractive.
	I'm going to hook up with them.
	And then they find out, oh, this is their act.
	The dude's actually a douchebag that tries to take advantage.
	Or the girl's a fucking, you know, total cunt.
	And it's just, you should put more thought into it.
	So for me, all my the only two people that I've hooked up once with have been friends of mine and I've known them prior to hooking up with them.
	And then the other ones have either been like talking stages to where I'm actually knowing the person or they're actually like relationships.
	So I won't hook up with anyone that I don't know like or have a past with that I know like, hey, I'm actually getting into like something good.
	Like I can actually connect with this human being on a level that isn't just, I'm gonna fuck the shit out of her.
	I think a lot of people need to go into that and take that into effect on how they view hookup culture because it's so gross and toxic.
	I get what you're saying completely, but also like that's not for everyone.
	Like not everyone thinks that way.
	No, yeah, that's fine.
	And like I don't think it's for us to say like they need to change.
	I'm not saying that they need to change.
	I'm just saying if you don't want to get thought of as this like hoe by society, maybe put some more thought into who you're hooking up with.
	And you guys have all said like you've lost hope in men.
	I'm just going to blame that on your experience with it because I know a lot of my friends who are super respectful.
	And same thing with girls.
	I think guys will give you know shitty raps to girls like they're only in it to hook up or whatever.
	Same thing with guys.
	That's not the case.
	Your experiences with guys have just been too shallow.
	Big tissue.
	I feel like I've gained some new perspective here.
	Yeah, right?
	Yeah.
	Not all men suck.
	I mean, like definitely from my experience, all the guys I've either picked or whatever, they've also, they've been all awful and ruined my lives in many ways.
	But there definitely are a lot of good ones out there just giving them a chance or letting them come to you.
	Or they're already taken.
	We were literally talking about this on the way here.
	But like women, like it's really common how girls are always like, we hate all men.
	Like that's like a common thing.
	At least all of them are.
	Or like all men are trash.
	That's just a joke.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, like I just chill out.
	Like, it's just a joke.
	I was just a praise.
	It's all the guys you pick.
	It's all the guys you pick.
	But it's like, I don't know that until I get to know them.
	Yeah.
	Like, you don't know they're dicks until you actually get to know them for a while, so it's not like...
	You don't know they're dicks?
	Like, that they are dicks.
	Like, you don't go after him, like, oh, he's a dick.
	I want to go get, like, go hang out with him.
	Like, yeah.
	Do you guys like bad boys?
	We'll go around the table.
	Do you like bad boys?
	To a certain extent.
	I guess from my past, I guess.
	Do you like bad boys?
	Why are you looking at answered the question?
	Thank you.
	Sure.
	What about you?
	Oh, my turn.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	I mean, like, yeah, to a certain extent, but I don't want them to be like bad to me.
	Like, you know, you want someone that's like close off to everyone else except for you.
	Does that make sense?
	Not really.
	I want you to buy me teddy bears and stuff.
	I mean, I used to.
	I don't know anymore.
	Okay.
	Wait, so you said that.
	I'm trying to remember.
	What did I say?
	I forgot something about men are terrible or something.
	Oh.
	Because I don't know.
	My friends always say, like, oh, like, they.
	Men are awful, I think.
	I say, like, oh my god, men suck.
	And they're like, oh, no, it's the guys you pick.
	But it's like, I don't seek these assholes.
	They just end up, I end up learning that they're assholes.
	Like, I don't, I'm like, oh, he's an asshole.
	Like, let me go hang out with him.
	Like, that's not what I do.
	But there's also a lot of good guys out there.
	You just got to give them a chance sometimes.
	Are you attracted to those guys, though?
	Um, yeah, I'd say.
	I mean, but they're not the ones you end up with.
	No.
	Are you saying nice guys finish last?
	I guess from my from like my past, I guess so.
	But like a lot of times they end up super nice at the beginning, and then it just is a decline from there.
	So word.
	Word.
	Word.
	I don't know.
	Like that happens a lot.
	Like they're great and then you really get to know them and then they just decline from there.
	From my experience.
	I hope that's it.
	It gets better from here.
	Yeah, I really hope for you.
	No more homeless men, please.
	I'm really trying after this.
	After this last hat, I'm really trying.
	Get him out of your mom's house.
	At least get your mom back.
	Get your mom back.
	And I just want to come back to two.
	I think I heard two of you say this.
	So you said you feel like you've learned something or you've found some insights or something.
	I have like, obviously, I've lived my life as a woman growing up here.
	I've hoped so.
	It's kind of nice because I haven't really had any proper guy friends, which is probably on me.
	But it's nice just being able to talk in a very open setting like this and just kind of hear the other perspective.
	Even if I don't agree with some stuff, it's useful to know.
	I don't know.
	It's nice.
	It's interesting.
	Yeah.
	Appreciate that.
	True.
	Yeah, I agree with you.
	Yeah.
	I mean, like Maddie and I, like, we talked to our guy friends about this stuff too, and they're pretty open about it.
	And we're open with them.
	Yeah.
	And like, we've just been close to that.
	What's something that you and your guy friends often talk about when they're talking about it?
	We have talked about a lot of stuff with them.
	Like, they're really close.
	Like, we have open minds when we're talking to them.
	Yeah, we want to hear from a guy.
	We never judge them.
	We're not going to be like, why would you say that?
	We're like, why do you say that?
	Yeah.
	If they say something, we're not going to be like, what the fuck?
	We're going to be like, interesting.
	What is an example of something that they've said?
	Maybe what's their take on body count?
	Body count?
	They don't really care, honestly.
	Yeah.
	They don't care?
	They don't care.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Maybe it's just a good guy friend.
	Yeah, we just got close.
	Yeah, to be fair, they're not nice.
	We chose good guy friends.
	They're like very sweet.
	Yeah.
	So your guy friends don't care about body count?
	No.
	No.
	Chat, do you think that's cap?
	Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	That's cap chat.
	I think I remember them mentioning they prefer low body count.
	Okay, so they do care.
	But like they prefer low body count, but they don't care.
	Like if the girl's a nice girl, it's not going to deter them.
	I think it's more of a thing.
	Like, I have some girlfriends that have slept around with a lot of dudes, and I'm like, I'm not looking to sleep with you, so I really couldn't go luck of a fuck.
	Yeah.
	It's just like a friend, like simply a platonic friendship.
	Yeah, so you only really care about it when it's like you're leading to like romantic situations.
	Yeah, okay.
	Yes.
	I see that.
	Because again, that's what I'm talking about with the whole energy exchange.
	It's like, I'm not going to exchange anything with this person.
	It's just going to be me hanging out with them and my other friend group doing whatever we want.
	I'm not going to hook up with them.
	I'm not going to like root myself to them compared to someone that has rooted themselves to a bunch of assholes or like, you know, people are shitty human beings.
	Yeah.
	I just wish I could read a guy's mind.
	I don't know if you want to read it.
	If I selectively want to at the time.
	I just want to know something.
	You want to choose one to read?
	I want to choose one to read their mind.
	Yeah.
	Also, the other thing with body count, so I think there's a bit more nuance to it.
	So for a, if a guy just wants to hook up, it's probably going to be less of a concern.
	But to take you seriously for a long-term relationship for marriage, guys are going to care about body count a whole lot more.
	So when they say, oh, body count doesn't matter, I mean, they might just be, I mean, if I don't know who they are, I don't know kind of what they're looking for, but a lot of guys in college, like they kind of just want to hook up.
	So they're probably like, yeah, I'm not really tripping too much.
	I'm just trying to hit him and quit it, like whatever.
	But I mean, even for me, like I'll come out and say, even for a one-night stand, I'd prefer lower body count.
	Okay.
	Whether that's a realistic scenario that would play out.
	I mean, that's another thing.
	But yeah.
	So, yeah.
	Last question, then we're going to wrap up here and then we'll watch a little fun little video just as a little cherry on top.
	Is it creepy when a guy you're not attracted to shoots his shot?
	I didn't say that it's not creepy.
	Not creepy.
	I mean, they can be creepy, but they can do it in a creepy way.
	Yeah, definitely.
	But just the act of shooting their shot, even if I'm not attracted to them, is not creepy.
	Okay.
	So like, let's say, for example, a guy, maybe you're at Trader Joe's or something.
	Look at Trader Joe's reference.
	I really love Trader Joe's.
	We're in California.
	I mean, yeah, exactly.
	And let's say a guy came up to you.
	Maybe he wasn't like the best looking guy, whatever.
	But, you know, he's polite.
	He was otherwise polite.
	You just weren't attracted to him.
	Would you find that kind of creepy?
	No.
	No.
	I would literally be like, oh my God, like texting my friends, like, I just got asked out.
	I like Trader Joe's.
	Like, it's so cute.
	And they're like, what did you do?
	And I'm like, oh, I just said no, thanks.
	Like, I'm not a.
	Yeah.
	But would you feel good about it?
	Yeah.
	Like, kind of flattered, sort of.
	I had a guy I was walking on Stage Tree.
	He said it is an ego boost.
	He asked me where Macy's was, and there was no Macy's.
	And I think he was just trying to talk to me on the other side.
	Walter?
	On Stage 3.
	Yeah, like Straight.
	But where's Paseo Nuevo?
	not upper upper state but there is one on yeah yeah but i'm saying like paseo nuevo we're like there used to be one at paseo nuevo Yeah.
	But he asked me where Macy's was, and I was like, no more Macy's.
	And it got my attention from walking.
	And then he's like, oh, can I get your number?
	And I was like, no.
	He wasn't attracted to me.
	And I just was like, oh, no.
	No, thanks.
	I mean, this happened to me semi-recently.
	I was just walking in the mall and this guy came up to me and was like, I just saw you from over there.
	I just had to introduce myself.
	I wasn't really that attracted to him.
	But I talked to him for a little bit.
	He seemed nice, but then he was like, Oh, like, can I get your number?
	And I was like, No, like, I'm about to leave.
	Like, sorry, but it was really nice, like, meeting you.
	And it is a little bit of an ego boost, but I mean, at least for me, I was like, respect for shooting your shot.
	Like, I respect you.
	Like, sorry, it didn't work out with me, but I do hope it works out with someone.
	Shooting shot in person is a lot more scary.
	Yeah.
	Oh, and I know a lot of walls.
	Oh, yeah, that's for sure.
	Sorry.
	I also feel like sometimes I do get uncomfortable, though.
	Like, I don't know, maybe it's like the setting, but also, like, I have had a lot of creepy guys like do creepy things.
	So, like, I think in general, I'm kind of like creeped out by men, especially if it's like older men.
	Yeah.
	I had a guy like kind of follow me around the grocery store.
	Okay, and he was like in his like 50s.
	Yeah.
	Like, definitely dad.
	And he, like, kept on walking the same aisles as me and then introduced himself.
	And then I just ran away.
	Wait, so hold on.
	You guys said, like, if it's an older guy, like, what is the oldest as in like a dad?
	Yeah.
	Like, 40, 50, 40, 40.
	What's the oldest that you guys think you would date?
	Right now?
	I know.
	I'd like hooked up with like a 30-year-old.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I have that, but not to be fair.
	But I guess like 25, 26.
	Like 23, 24.
	Yeah.
	Like 23, 23.
	Even Andrew Tate, like, no-go.
	No.
	35.
	No.
	What about, what if he's like.
	Do you guys have a celebrity crush?
	Yeah, it's Harry Styles.
	Like, yeah.
	Miles Heller.
	Andrew Garfield.
	Andrew Garfield.
	Oh, my God.
	Hold on.
	So, okay.
	Harry Styles is.
	Miles Keller.
	Oh, my God.
	I love him.
	Harry Styles is 28.
	You'll go for.
	I'll go for Harry Styles.
	I'll do anything for Harry Styles.
	Andrew Garfield.
	I think he's like 30-something, but I said I would do 30.
	Like Chris Evans.
	Who said Andrew Garfield?
	Me.
	Ooh.
	I love him too.
	He's 39.
	Yeah.
	But it's Andrew Garfield.
	There's exceptions.
	Okay.
	He does not look 39.
	He looks like 33.
	So if a guy has status.
	No, I wouldn't date him.
	I think it's just from watching.
	I think it's just from watching all the movies that they've been on and like seeing.
	It's like the way that they hold it.
	Like it's a traditional 30-year-old, by the way.
	You wouldn't date Andrew Garfield.
	And you've also, I don't know, he's had like so much more life experience than me.
	Like, I feel like I just literally, I could talk about my childhood and that's it.
	What do I have to interview?
	High school.
	A little bit of college.
	Okay, so we are going to react to a final video.
	We got a Patrice O'Neill clip.
	If you can add one up, Eric, I believe it's.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Here's a question.
	Serious question.
	Okay, ladies, if you didn't have a vagina, like say it was a terrible train accident, right?
	And the doctor was like, we have to remove your pussy right away or you're going to die.
	How would you keep your man past, you get a two-month guilty?
	I can't leave the bench right away because you just lost a pussy in the train accident.
	Can't just walk right out on him.
	How would you keep your man past that if you didn't have a vagina?
	Eric, can you pause it?
	So go ahead.
	Your answer to his question.
	Like sexually, is this like.
	And just how would you keep your man?
	By love and affection.
	It could be sexually too, but you lost your vaginas.
	If a guy loves you enough, they'll stay.
	Terrible train accident.
	Yeah.
	If a guy loves you enough, they'll stay.
	Yeah, love, affection, care.
	What would you do to keep your men?
	Well, however, you want to take the I don't want to influence.
	That seems like we're trying to go for it.
	No, I just don't want to influence your answer, but I just want to know how you'd keep it.
	I mean, there's other things that don't.
	Don't involve a vagina.
	Yeah, there's a lot of things like foreplay and everything.
	I mean, I guess there's no foreplay.
	Yeah, but I mean, outside of sex, like you can just be like a good person.
	Good morning.
	Like you are already dating before.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, no, like literally what they're saying.
	Like time, care, like together, spend time together.
	Quality.
	You don't really want to be just for their vagina.
	Yeah, if you break up with someone after you leave, like you leave them after they date on vagina, you're.
	I think you're about to do it.
	Especially if it's like a bad accident and they were like in along with them.
	I think you're about to like that's kind of.
	And also just like, is quality time not enough anymore?
	Yes, intimacy and that stuff is important, but there's other ways to do that.
	There's also like pocket pussies.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, like get creative.
	Get creative.
	There's just a hole.
	There's just a hole worth of vaginas.
	It's so does, so does.
	It's like a Barbie doll bottom.
	I mean, there's another terrible train accident.
	Only down there.
	There's one.
	You guys are forgetting there's like a very viable option.
	There's another hole.
	There you go.
	Yeah.
	There's two.
	The belly button.
	The belly button.
	There are two, but and you're what would you do?
	I want to keep him if you want to leave.
	No, but what would you do to keep your man?
	You just lost your terrible train and trash derailed.
	Oh, never mind.
	I don't know how left getting care.
	There's another hole.
	There you go.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	They didn't really go for it.
	I don't think they took the bait, but we'll finish off the clip.
	Hey, I tried.
	Wow.
	Nothing.
	You can talk.
	You can talk.
	Suck his dick.
	Okay.
	Mouth.
	Asshole, okay, great.
	Do you see what I'm saying?
	Now, I've been getting pussy beamed the whole show, right?
	But I give women an opportunity to say, I'm going to make myself worth more.
	But you just classified yourself as a series of holes.
	But guess what?
	You know, I'm.
	I'm supposed to teach you special, but you're just a bunch of holes to yourself.
	No one said learn how to play Xbox, learn how to play pool, tell better stories, get another bitch that got a pussy to come on in.
	Well, look, whatever.
	All right.
	Yeah, you guys didn't really take the bait on that one.
	Hey, I mean, I said some options.
	Yeah, it was good.
	It was good.
	Anyways, I think we're going to wrap up here.
	I know I opened it up to final thoughts.
	One last opportunity.
	If anyone had any question you wanted to ask the panel anything?
	Okay, cool, cool, cool.
	Luke, I think you got your thing in too, right?
	I'm all good.
	Okay, rock and roll, guys.
	So thanks, guys, for tuning in.
	You could have been doing anything else, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	We will be live again Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
	Like the video and leave a comment on your way out for the algorithm.
	Yeah, and thank you to the wonderful panel for coming.
	You guys are awesome.
	I think this was like, I think this was like a really solid panel.
	I'd say so.
	I saw a lot of comments that were like pretty positive.
	They're like good energy.
	Yeah, it's a good.
	I think this was like one hater, like one singular hater, like the whole time.
	What was he saying?
	I'm not really reading it.
	I don't know.
	His name was like Hector.
	But he, like, the whole time, he was just bagging on me.
	I was like, oh, yeah.
	Oh, shit.
	A lot of hate guys going there.
	It's the same thing, Tuesday.
	Oh, I don't know how fun you do.
	But yeah, no, I definitely agree.
	Like, I think the energy for this one is the 7-Eleven date.
	Mantis, I guess he's asked her DMs are open, I guess.
	Yeah, games are open.
	Yeah, the Instagram shows up.
	They're down below.
	Yeah, give everyone a follow on Instagram.
	Show them some love, guys.
	But yeah, just.
	Oh, we're cool and positive.
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah, definitely, I think, a very good panel.
	But yeah, guys, if you can, we will be live again Tuesday at 7 p.m.
	Like the video and leave a comment on your way out for the algorithm.
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	Have good night, guys.
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