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Feb. 3, 2023 - Whatever Podcast
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Dating Talk #24
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Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast.
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So, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and or school major.
My name's Emmy.
I'm 18.
I'm a full-time student at SBCC, and I'm a communications major.
Hi, I'm Ari.
I'm 22, and I just graduated from UCSB with a degree in Psych and Brain.
Hi, I'm Asaul.
I go to SBCC, and I'm a full-time student.
My major is criminology.
Age.
What is it?
Oh, criminology.
Criminology.
Yeah, and age 18.
My name is Jordan.
I'm 21.
I currently go to SBCC, and I just switched to a nursing major.
Zach?
Yeah, my name's Zach.
I'm in the military.
And age?
22.
Okay.
Yeah.
My name is Tanner.
I'm 26.
Full-time, I do executive protection.
Part-time, I'm an instrument in the California National Guard and own my own firearms training business.
It's a side gig, and I'm a major in general education.
My name's Chase.
I'm 27.
I'm a professional photographer and brand consultant, and I'm not in school.
Also, what's up?
Entertain me.
I see you, bro.
And Zach, what branch of the military?
Marine Corps.
Okay, Marine Corps.
Marine Corps, yeah.
Semper Phi.
Okay.
So everyone's Instagram is in the description.
Show them some love.
Give them a follow.
And I want to go around the table once more here.
So current relationship status, longest relationship, and are you on a dating app?
So I actually just got out of a two-year relationship.
So that was my longest, and then I'm on Tinder.
My longest relationship was a year and a half, currently single, and I'm on Tinder and Bumble.
Never been in a relationship, currently single, and I've never been on any dating apps.
Longest relationship was about two years.
I'm currently not on any dating apps, and I'm single.
And longest relationship, probably five and a half years, and I'm in a relationship now.
Longest relationship was two years, and I'm in a relationship, not on any dating apps.
Longest relationship was a year and a half, currently single.
Was on Tinder.
Complete waste of my time.
Not based.
Applied to, I signed up for, there's a new dating app called The Right Stuff for Conservatives.
I saw that one there.
Might be a Fed honeypot, but I signed up for it.
We'll see if I get accepted.
Okay.
And so, Chase.
What's up, bro?
On the previous show, you mentioned that you were on Tinder swiping in Norway?
Or was it Sweden?
It was Copenhagen and Stockholm.
Okay.
Are you still doing that or have you moved on from?
I am not still doing that.
It was interesting for like a week, and then I got over it.
Sure.
Got it.
Got it.
You didn't get lucky, I'm guessing.
I did not get lucky.
So.
No women got lucky.
It's true.
And are any of you, have any of you been on seeking arrangements?
Anybody?
I did put my email in it one time, a really long time ago, but nothing came out of it.
You put your email.
Or like however you sign up?
Created an account.
Yeah.
What was your username?
I honestly don't even remember.
Was it like SB Bunny70?
It was honestly when I was in like high school.
So I don't really remember.
High school?
Is that the Sugar Daddy website?
Yeah.
It's the Sugar Daddy website.
Are you looking for a billionaire sugar daddy?
I just wanted to see if someone would send it without me having to do anything.
Just like free money?
No, yeah.
They were like, oh, what's your number?
I'm like, next.
Never mind.
But you didn't get any money?
And then on this side of the panel, has anybody?
I've heard Zach is currently looking for a sugar daddy on seeking arrangements.
That's correct.
Yeah.
I have no idea what Seeking Arrangement even is.
Sorry, I can't.
It's like a dating website where you can set up arrangements.
Kind of sugar daddy, sugar mama.
There's probably like one sugar mama on there, probably.
Have you ever been on Seeking Arrangements?
I have not.
That's a lie.
Why is that a lie?
No, but I've thought about recruiting women for the show on like creating an account to recruit women to come on the show.
Because I bet they have a lot to say.
That'd be interesting.
I know someone.
You should ask her if she wants to come on.
She doesn't live around here.
Rip it.
Okay, so last thing real quick, going around the panel, if you're comfortable sharing, political orientation and if you identify as a feminist.
I'm a registered Democrat, and I would say I do, to an extent, identify as a feminist.
Exactly the same.
The same.
Actually, the same.
I'm a Republican.
I do not identify as a feminist.
I'm an Independent, and I do not identify as a feminist.
I'm a right-wing extremist.
And I do not identify as a feminist.
Did you rush the Capitol?
I did not.
I also disavow.
Oh, okay.
You disavows.
Okay.
Good times.
Good times.
Okay.
So you're a right-wing extremist.
No, but you're more...
I'm very conservative.
Yeah, I'm a Christian conservative.
Which is considered being a right-wing extremist nowadays.
And you're also a raging feminist.
Raging feminist.
Raging feminist.
Okay, got it.
For me, I'd consider myself center, center-left, and I do not identify as a feminist.
I consider myself an egalitarian.
So that should make for an interesting panel.
So first question I have is, apparently yesterday was National Boyfriend Day.
So my first question is, why are y'all single?
The men here are trash.
I take offense, guest queen.
I'm kidding.
We should go into that, though.
Why are the men here trapped?
They're cheaters.
Everyone's a cheater here.
Everyone.
I've not met a single loyal person, girls and guys.
You're bisexual?
No.
Oh, I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm just like my friends.
I don't know.
Do you live in IV?
Yeah.
Okay.
Wait, but let's come back to you.
So why are men trash?
maybe not all men i just haven't really i feel like most men i I don't really have like a distinct, oh, I like this type of guy, like this kind of hair, this kind of style, whatever.
I think like a lot of people that come to Santa Barbara or just like in this area, kind of more having to like have a good time.
And even if you try to make it more than a good time, after like a small period of like maybe a month or two, it just kind of crushes down to the same like, oh, it's not really like going to work out.
They're not looking for anything serious.
That's been my experience.
And I've lived here.
This is my third year here.
Yeah.
What are you looking for?
I personally do want a relationship, but I don't think right now is the right time.
If I met the right person, then I would.
If it checks all the boxes, then yes.
What are your boxes that need to be checked?
Goal-oriented, ambitious.
I honestly like a competitive personality.
If you're not very competitive, I don't know.
i like competitive i guess um i don't oh very family oriented I feel like if people aren't really family-oriented, I feel like that's kind of a red flag for me just because I'm super family-oriented.
I don't, yeah.
Are there any physical requirements?
Physical?
Even though I may be like five feet tall, nothing less than 5'10.
Nothing less.
That's just like, if, okay, even though I am five feet tall, right?
Imagine somebody that's only like 5'4.
I would look like I'm in a middle school relationship.
Like, that just looks so weird.
R.I.P. 5'4 dudes.
Sorry.
I'm not gonna make it.
No, GMI.
That's not gonna work.
So, okay, you think that men here are trash.
Not all men.
Maybe most.
Okay.
So I want to ask the rest of the women, because a few of you seem to echo a little bit what she said.
Do you agree with that sentiment?
That men are trash?
Sure.
I would say for the most part, yeah.
Is this a blanket statement?
Like, just generally, men are trash?
Yeah, just men here.
Just general, men are trash.
Okay.
Why?
You need to articulate why.
Why are men trash?
Just because they're men, honestly.
Just because they're men?
Just because they're men.
I don't know.
I just feel like they just are most of the time.
You see how far the termites have spread and how long and well they've done.
Okay, but so why?
Give us some reasons.
Give me some qualities.
What makes men trash?
I would just say like disrespectful, selfish for the most part.
Do you think it's disrespectful to call men trash?
Do you think it's disrespectful?
I think it's a little bit disrespectful.
Would you think it's disrespectful if I said women are trash?
Yes.
Okay, there you go.
So are you respectful?
I think I am.
To men?
Yeah.
Except that's that trash statement.
What would make men not trash?
How can we make men great again in your mind?
Make men great again 22.
I don't know.
I think.
What did you say?
Nothing make men great again, dude.
I think it's like more of like personal experience.
Like you come across someone who kind of like goes above and beyond your perspective on people.
So I think I'd need like a really great man to kind of like be like, oh, yeah, men aren't trash.
You know?
Do you think you're a great woman?
No, I wouldn't say I'm a great woman, but.
But you'd want a great man?
No, I didn't say that.
I just said like that's what I would need to like change my perception.
Yeah, her perception.
Would you say if you met the right guy, he would have to prove that he's not trash to you?
No, I think most of the time when I meet someone, I give them the benefit of the doubt.
Like I'm not going to assume automatically they're trash, but just like personally, over the course of my life, my like general consensus would be so far men are trash.
Okay.
Yeah.
If you met a great guy who changed, who had those qualities that you're describing, do you think your experience with that one great guy would change your perception of men in general?
Do you think you'd still consider men trash if you met that one great guy who wasn't trash?
I don't know.
I think if anything, it might be skewed a bit.
I don't know if it'd completely change it, but it might get a bit more positive.
Do you have a father?
Yes.
Is he trash?
I'd like to not answer that question.
Do you have a brother?
That's a yes.
That's a yes.
You don't have a brother?
No.
Any male cousins or anything?
I have like one, but he lives in Florida.
Okay.
Yeah.
Is there room for a lot of improvement in your relationship with your dad?
And maybe how he treats you?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you think so?
I used to think that women were trash based on my experiences with some of the women in my family.
And that was something that took me a while to get over.
Do you think that your perception of men has been colored by your relationship with your dad?
I definitely think it could be.
I haven't really looked into it that much, but hearing it, I'm like, yeah, probably.
Probably.
That's fair.
Would it be, do you think it would be sexist to say that women are trash?
Would that be a sexist statement?
No, because I do think that there are women that are trash, but not.
Well, sure, there are both men and women who are trash.
But to broadly say that men are trash or women are trash.
I did correct myself.
I said the men in Santa Barbara, specifically.
That's a decent amount of men there.
Not generally speaking.
Because I know a lot of great guys, just not in Santa Barbara.
Well, I mean, to her point, like, a lot of the dudes in Santa Barbara that are in your guys' age demographic are complete fuckboys that just want to run through as many chicks as possible, aren't looking for relationships.
Seen a lot of dudes I knew when I was in college break a lot of girls' hearts.
So, you know, it's a thing here.
There's lots of guys in Santa Barbara, but there's very few men, for sure.
Facts.
Yeah, I would say that.
Cheers to that.
I would say that there's a lot of more pretty women than there are attractive men here as well.
Do you guys agree with that statement?
Yeah.
There's more pretty women than there are attractive men.
Yeah.
So you're talking looks.
Yeah, looks-wise.
That's interesting because I've heard girls on previous podcasts that you've done say there's a lot of attractive guys here.
Well, is that because women grade men more harshly when it comes to look than do men grade women harshly?
I think it's type.
I think men grade women harshly.
Like, do you think it's like a build-a-woman whenever they want somebody, like a girl or something?
Like, they want a specific type of body, they want a specific color hair, and it's just something they want to change a person into.
Do you think they just have like a preference that they'd rather stick to?
Is there anything wrong with that?
There's nothing wrong with it.
It's just as long as you're being respectful, but when they get to the point where it's disrespectful and rude, that's, yeah.
Get what you're saying.
Yeah.
I think in general, women grade men far more harshly on physical traits than men grade women.
So.
Yeah, like you said earlier, you want a guy that's at least 5'10, so pretty much 6'r?
Wait, 5'5.
Wait, I'm small, so I don't know.
I just like, I just think me being small and if there's a guy that's maybe five inches taller than me, that just looks a little childish because I'm so small.
Do you think it's a little childish to have a height requirement for your dating?
I'm not saying, but I don't know.
She's allowed to have a preference, I guess.
Yeah, there's nothing wrong.
There's nothing wrong.
She's allowed to have a lot of fun.
She allows her preferences, just like we're allowed to have our preferences.
Exactly.
Like how you most likely would want a girl to be a little bit shorter than you.
Or, I don't know.
Some people like that.
Some guys like girls that are around the same height.
I don't think there's anything wrong with having a preference for height.
Yeah, like I would want a taller guy.
I'm 5'10, so I wouldn't want a dude that's taller than 5'10.
So wait, it's okay to have a height preference, right?
I think it's okay to.
I think it's fully okay to have a height preference.
Okay, so I have a follow-up question for you.
Would you take issue with a guy who has a weight preference?
So a guy who says, I don't want to date a woman who weighs more than 120 pounds.
No.
Okay, fair enough.
Fair enough.
But I do want to talk about the looks thing.
So you guys said that there are more attractive women than there are attractive men.
So really quick, like of the percentage of men that you see either on a day-to-day basis or on dating apps, what percentage of men would you say you find attractive?
They don't have to be the most attractive, but that you would binary say yes or like yes or no.
This is an attractive person.
What percentage?
And we'll start over here with you.
Wait, can you say that again?
Okay.
Of the men that you see, what percentage of them would you say you find attractive?
Probably like a little bit below 50%, a little bit below half.
That's fair.
I think like, I don't know, it's hard because like to be like, find someone attractive is one thing, but like to be like attracted to them.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Like there's a total difference.
Leave that part out of the usual.
Just physically attractive.
Make 30%.
Okay, fair.
Wait, can you repeat the question again?
We're going to have to hide the chat.
What percent of people keep fucking reading?
Okay.
What percent of men that you see on a daily basis do you find attractive?
Before you answer that, just to adjust the whole chat thing, you guys are free to read chat, but do try to focus in a little bit on the conversation.
It's very distracting.
It's very distracting.
So if you want, glance over, but do try to pay more attention to the conversation.
Go ahead.
I think like 40%?
I honestly think less than 10%.
Less than 10%.
I feel like that's the most realistic answer.
Realistically, it is like two different women in terms of what they find attractive.
To my preference.
And I don't generally, like I said before, I don't have one specific type or whatever.
If you say that you think 50% of people are attractive, then every other person that you're walking by is attractive.
And it's like super rare in my day-to-day basis, like while I'm at school, work, hanging out with friends, or even like out of the club.
It's like super rare that I'm like, oh my gosh, that person is really attractive.
By the way, I just want to make it clear.
It's not, this is the most attractive person I'm ever see.
It's just like binary.
Are they attractive?
That could be decently attractive to like, whoa, showstopper.
Yeah, like decently decent attractive.
Less than 10%.
Yeah, I would say less than 10%.
And you live in Isla Vista?
No, I lived in Isla Vista last year, but I live downtown Santa Claus.
You go to UCSD?
No, I go to the CC.
CC.
Huge upgrade.
Yeah, I could only live here for one year.
Yeah.
It was good for me.
Okay.
And then I'll open it up to the guys here.
What percentage of women do you guys find attractive?
Start with Zach.
I would say close to less than 10% for me, honestly.
Just based on looks alone, is that what we're talking about?
Yeah.
Just on looks alone, I would say it's around 10%.
All right.
I would say just like general out anywhere, probably like 10%, but specifically in Santa Barbara, probably like 25%.
I think there's a lot of attractive people in Santa Barbara, for sure.
Yeah, like here in Isla Vista, it's probably like 25%.
Santa Barbara at large, probably closer to like 15%, but really a lot of hot girls in Isla Vista, I'll tell you that.
I was going to say it's like for me, like 80% of the women in Isla Vista I see, I think, I think are attractive.
80%.
Well, we probably have different standards.
You guys have higher standards than I do.
Anyways, so, okay, we kind of got off track a little bit there.
So, and I don't know if you guys had anything you wanted to add to the whole looks thing or the men are trash thing, if you wanted to continue with that.
But the original question was, we're talking about National Boyfriend Day, which was yesterday.
So I was asking why you guys are single.
So we're going to just go along here.
So why are you single?
Because I don't want to be in a relationship, right?
You recently got out of a long-term one, right?
How recently was the month ago?
You got dumped?
Yeah.
Why?
He thought I cheated on him.
What's that?
He thought I cheated on him.
Did you?
No.
Is that my honest answer?
Yeah.
Why did he think you cheated on him?
I don't know.
He was just, I think he was projecting, to be honest.
I think he cheated on me.
Were you spending a little bit too much time with one of your guy friends?
Or no.
Well, I mean, he was, I don't know.
Okay, maybe, yeah.
All right, go on.
Like, what was the story?
It was just, well, it was just one of my co-workers, but nothing happened, so I can say that.
But I think he cheated on me before.
So that's why he broke up with me.
Right?
You think because he did it.
Because he did it anyway.
And he was in his own heart and he projected that onto you.
Yeah, and he lives a floor below me now.
That's awkward.
Yeah, it's bad.
So I think he broke up with me because he wanted to be single and he wanted to be in Isla Vista and be a single man and hook up with people.
Okay.
And you guys were dating for how long again?
Two years.
Two years.
Wow.
Okay.
And that was, you said a month ago?
That was a month ago, yeah.
Can you tilt your mic, turn your microphone, push it a bit that way?
Perfect, perfect.
Wow, okay, so.
Got to show off Zach's massive upper body.
Yeah, I was trying to talk about my neck, man.
I'm gonna use the MRE neck.
That's what they're talking about.
Dude, you have like, your neck is the size of two human necks put together.
Look at Zach's neck compared to my neck, dude.
This is ridiculous.
Can you flex it?
Oh, shit.
I don't know.
I was born with a big head, so like I gotta keep it straight.
Jealous.
Jealous.
Wait, so okay.
You broke up a month ago, so have you had a rebound?
Yeah.
Okay.
Good times.
Yeah, it's been fun.
I like being single.
So why are you single?
I've, I know this sounds like super basic.
I've just been working on myself.
I was kind of talking to someone.
I broke that off earlier this week just because I realized I wasn't really ready for a relationship and I kind of like being by myself right now.
So just live in the life.
Hey, respect to working on yourself.
Thank you.
There's nothing wrong with that.
I know it sounds basic, but people need that.
Yeah, no, I agree.
Being with someone is like great if you're like fully there and in it, but like if you're not, then like I don't want to put someone through that.
Like, I know I'm not ready.
So, yeah.
I would say it's not basic at all.
After I went through a pretty heartbreaking breakup when I was 19, I spent years working on myself, and I think it's a worthwhile endeavor.
I think there's this like pressure here in the area to always be hooking up with people or be in a relationship.
Yeah, I think that's toxic.
So, yeah, problems.
Well, it's also like, like, I'm on like dating apps, but it's also not something I want to force either.
Like, you know, like, I'm like down to meet people, but like, I'm not going to be like, oh, like, I have to have a connection with someone.
Like, if it happens, it happens.
Like, it needs to be natural anyway.
So, yes.
Yeah.
I agree.
I'm single because I think it's because everyone, like, almost all guys, are interested in hookup culture.
And I just don't want to be in hookup culture.
I don't think that would satisfy me.
And yeah, I like that.
Very base.
Awesome.
But wholesome girl.
But I would be open to if, like, there's a guy that I'm talking to, we're friends first, and he's like, we have a connection, and he does want a relationship and not just a hookup, then I'd be interested in that.
Are you talking about the 6'5 basketball player that you talked about last show?
No.
The last time you were on?
What?
Don't look at us.
Were you talking to a 6'5 professional basketball player?
No, I think he's a college player.
College?
Yes.
You don't want to talk about that?
Did he see the show?
No, he didn't.
Thank you.
But I am seeing him soon.
You're seeing him soon.
Yes.
By the way, so last show we talked about, given that he's 6'5, given that he's a college athlete, is he D1?
Yes.
Okay.
So are you okay sharing him with other women?
I mean, we're not in a relationship right now, so he can do whatever he wants.
So you don't care?
I mean, I do care, but I can't do anything because we're not together.
But you're seeing him soon.
Yes.
But you just said you're not a fan of hookup culture.
I'm not.
But if that's what I want to do, but I can't really.
I'm not seeing him as in, like, we're just going to be talking.
Talking?
Yeah.
And hanging out.
Hanging.
That's the only way he's thinking of it.
Okay, why are you single?
Wait, hold on, real quick.
You said you've never had a boyfriend?
Never had a boyfriend.
Interesting.
Okay.
I think because when I said earlier, like my longest relationship was two years, the person that I was dating, it was kind of like on and off from like eighth grade to like my senior year of high school.
And I only saw like that one person.
And then after that, I honestly went celibate for almost two years.
And then I moved to Santa Barbara, explored, kind of like figured out like I'm not into like one.
I don't know.
Like I used to only find like one kind of like person attractive or like go for like a typical type.
But since then, like I have definitely grown out of that.
And like I used to also be on dating apps and stuff, but I'm not anymore just because I feel like it's kind of fake in a way.
I think like the whole swiping thing, like people mentioned earlier, I don't know.
Like I would never really swipe right a lot of the time, like to like match or anything.
Like it was always like left, for so long.
And then I would, I don't know, every once in a while I'd be like, okay, this guy's kind of cute.
And then I would never like meet up with anyone on there.
And I'm like, eh.
So I would always like go back and forth with re-downloading it, downloading it.
I don't know.
I think that I really want to try to meet someone authentically, like in person, and kind of have that kind of a thing.
But I don't know.
I'm not, I don't know.
It's kind of hard to answer.
Like, I just haven't really met somebody.
Just hasn't happened yet.
No, just, yeah, it just hasn't happened yet.
No.
Should we open this up to the guys?
Why are you guys single?
Did Zach say he was single?
I'm not single.
Oh, you're not single.
I'm not single.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
And we don't need an answer.
We don't need an answer.
Right, Chase?
Whatever you want.
Unless you want to answer.
I mean, I'll just say, like, I'm single because I'm looking for my wife, and I've very high standards for what I want in her, and just haven't found it yet.
And you, because you are waiting until, you're still waiting until marriage, correct?
Yes, I'm still waiting until marriage.
It hasn't changed in the past six weeks.
What do the girls think about that?
He's waiting until marriage.
Thoughts?
How old are you?
27.
27?
Yeah.
I wasn't previously waiting until marriage, but the events of 2020 changed my mind.
I'm a Christian.
See a lot of biblical prophecy happening right now.
I want a very strong Christian wife, and there's not a lot of Christian women in Santa Barbara.
And of the small pool that there is, haven't found what I'm looking for yet.
So, yeah.
What do you think about them, apples?
I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
I respect that, because like before coming to Santa Barbara, I was waiting until marriage.
But after a certain something, I think I'm going to go back to that and also wait till marriage and wait for the right person because it's just a waste of time when you're just talking to people or like trying to date people who you know it's not going to go anywhere.
Yeah.
You said you were waiting for marriage.
Was that for religious reasons?
Yes.
For Islam or Christianity?
Christianity.
Okay.
And then you said you're no longer waiting for marriage?
I wasn't doing when I came here.
Okay.
And then like I did, like some things happened, but after that, because I was doing it for religion reasons, but now I want to do it for myself.
Right.
Yeah.
Keep waiting for marriage.
Yeah.
Okay.
So like if you find a guy that you're attracted to, you're not going to have sex with him until marriage?
Like doing, that's why like before I came to Santa Barbara, I was waiting until marriage.
And then like when I came here, I kind of broke that with somebody, but then I'm like, it didn't feel like good.
I don't know how to say it.
I was just like, no, there's no connection there.
So it was just pointless.
So I'm like, I should probably go back to waiting till marriage.
I think that's the best choice.
Okay.
Let's say you found just like the best dude.
Like you're really attracted to him.
He's totally husband material, but he doesn't want to wait till marriage.
Would you have sex with him before marriage if you wanted to?
No.
You'd make him wait?
If he likes me enough and cares about me enough, then he should wait.
It's extremely based.
Based.
Cheers.
Props.
Any thoughts on that, Brian?
That comment.
What?
King King Something.
She was going to hook up with the 6'5 guy she's seeing again soon.
Is this true?
What?
If this basketball player, you met up with him and he wanted to smash, would you still say no?
Yeah, like we're just really good friends, you know?
Wait, but didn't you guys hook up?
Oh, no!
I mean, you said it last stream.
Yeah, that was.
Yeah, that's what I was talking about.
That was the guy you were talking about?
It was just not that guy, but like another guy after him.
Okay, okay.
A different 6'5 basketball player?
No, he wasn't like, he was just a normal dude that I met, and it was just like a one-night stand, and I didn't like that.
But with my friend, the basketball player, it was actually like, because we have like a connection and everything.
But I don't think he's looking for a relationship, so we're just going to keep it like just friends.
Why didn't you like the way that one-night stand made you feel?
Because like, it's just, I think I did it just to kind of for him.
I don't know, because like we, there was no chemistry there.
And we were just like both not in a, I wasn't in a good state of mind.
So I just kind of regretted it.
Yeah.
Yeah, it feels cheap when they happen.
Yeah.
In my experience.
They do.
Yeah, straight up.
Yeah, I had one or two of those when I was in college, and I just felt like dirty afterwards.
Just not a good feeling.
It feels like empty.
Yeah.
Word?
Okay, so I want to do a couple super chats here really quick, guys, and then we'll get into some more questions.
And we do have some videos to react to.
So let me see here.
All right, we got Devon Jackson with the $10 Soup Chat.
I love the smell of misandry in the morning, or sorry, in the evening, rather.
Red flag.
If you guys don't know what misandry is, misandry is sort of the flip side of misogyny.
So if misogyny is the hatred and contempt of women, misandry, misandry is the hatred and contempt of men.
And I believe this is in response to the men are trash comments.
So I'll touch on that really quick.
We'll come back to that really quick, and then I'll do a couple soup chats here.
Devon Jackson with the subsequent $10 soup chat.
Thank you, man.
Much appreciate it.
Good to see you back.
We need a wrap-it-up button, Chappelle style.
Tired of all this waffling and not making a point.
Let me see if I got this on my soundboard.
Hold on.
I got a couple Chappelle ones.
You know what?
I was thinking about putting it on, but, um, I got, okay, that's not going to do it.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, there you go.
I might add that to the soundboard, Devon.
And Glebis LA, good to see you back, man.
Thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
Chase, she wasn't waiting for marriage, but she will now after she met you, LOL.
She obviously wants to be your wife.
Go.
We're so back.
Okay, apparently Glebis is shipping you two, so.
He's shipping you guys.
So, okay, they're trying to set us up.
They're trying to set us up.
Yeah, perfect.
Okay.
So, so, okay, I want to, really quick, I want to touch on the men are trash thing because I don't think we really fully finalized that.
Was it you who said men are trash?
Okay, yes, but like.
I said in Santa Barbara, not as I did correct myself.
This is true.
God location plays a big part.
I think location does play a big part.
Still kind of a.
Don't you think it's a bit of a sexist thing to say?
To say men are trash.
Specifically in Santa Barbara.
Wait, do you consider yourself a feminist?
Did you say?
Not fully, no, I wouldn't say.
Based.
I think that a lot of people get it twisted because it's like I'm not like an activist feminist.
Like I'll go to protests here and there.
I think that all women should have rights and be able to have an abortion when they want and things like that.
But.
Do you think we should end women's suffrage?
Okay.
Do you know what that is?
We've never been asked that question.
I know.
It's a super random question.
It's the right to vote.
It's a funny question because people think it means like suffering.
And so women will be like, yeah, I think we should end women's suffrage.
It's okay.
So it's supposed to be a trick question.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay, but so I guess the whole men are trash thing.
Is that, are you guys talking in a dating context or are you talking broadly societally?
Societally?
Is that the fucking word?
That's a good word.
It's a societal word now.
I don't know.
Like the dating around?
I don't know.
Dating?
Men are trash.
Culturally, like right now in Santa Barbara.
Okay, do you want to come in on this?
Are you talking dating-wise, or are you just saying just all men are trash?
I think, I don't know.
I guess probably more so dating-wise, just because I said, like, if I had a great partner, then they can maybe skew my perspective.
So, like, my personal experience thus far, pretty trash-like.
So, it's just easier to like collectively say men.
Okay, I guess keep working on yourself, become the greatest woman you can be, settle for nothing less than a great man.
I believe you will find him.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Yes, you're welcome.
So, and he will change your mind about men.
Fingers crossed.
Wait, so okay, just to clarify here, so you're saying men are trash more so in the context of a dating, in a dating context.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, do you bear some responsibility for the men you've chosen?
Because you've chosen them, right?
So, I mean, clearly, I'm not the best at picking, but have you had trash boyfriends?
They're all watching right now.
I think pick your words carefully.
I don't know if it's like, I mean, honestly, like, there's been like negative parts, which I guess comes with any relationship, but like, I've learned a lot about myself.
I mean, definitely some trauma, but it is what it is.
I think you've had trash boyfriends.
Your words, not mine.
My words.
I will own them.
What is what is, and maybe we can have all the girls answer this.
What is one thing that you've done wrong in a relationship?
Heavy hitter.
No, I'll say.
I'm honestly really bad at like confrontation and communication.
I tend to isolate myself.
So, I know that definitely makes situations worse because if I had just addressed an issue, then like it could have been solved.
But instead, I kind of back away and then things just get worse.
So, yeah.
I guess hanging out with my coworker when I'm in a relationship.
Hey, I appreciate the honesty.
Yeah, oh, that's it.
For me, on why, like, if I think men are trash, like no, like a red flag.
Like a red flag?
Oh.
What have you done?
Yeah, what have you done?
What have you done wrong in a relationship?
Me?
Yeah.
Well, she's never had a relationship.
She's never had a relationship, but I could say, maybe I do have some red flags.
But I think.
What are your red flags?
Septum piercing?
100%.
I'm teasing.
Everyone always goes for the piercings.
I think some of my red flags is that I could be nonchalant sometimes.
And I guess I should care more because then the other significant other is going to think that I don't care about them or anything.
Sure.
And one thing you've done wrong in a past relationship?
I think doing too much.
Like, what is that?
Like, giving too much.
I'm a too giving person.
Like, I will.
That's not a bad thing.
I think, like, to myself, it's a bad thing because you let people run you over.
Yeah, like, I kind of, like, well, I always, like, at the end of the day, like, I'm going to, if, like, somebody's like, oh, I need this, or can you do this for me?
Like, for some reason, like, even if, like, this person, like, or a boyfriend or whatever has, I don't know, I feel like I, it's a red flag to always keep giving when it shouldn't be given.
But I don't think any of your previous partners would say she was too giving.
Like, they wouldn't say this is what she did wrong.
My, like, ex-boyfriend and I, we didn't have a toxic relationship.
So I don't really know what I would say as a red flag.
Well, just one thing you did wrong.
I mean, the relationship ended, right?
So, I mean, something on maybe not that one, but the previous relationship.
If you can't think of anything, no worries, no problem.
Moving on, Devon, I want to know what's something you've done wrong in previous relationships, Brian.
Me?
Yeah.
Me?
Yeah.
I'm perfect.
No, let me see.
Something I've done wrong.
Refused to go down on her?
Oh.
Is that wrong, though?
I don't think that's wrong.
If you guys were with a guy who refused to go down on you, would you be pissed about that?
I think it would depend.
If he's expecting me to give in that situation, but won't be like isn't willing to go down on me, then I'd be pissed.
But if he's like, I don't want it, you don't, then I'd be like, okay, at least it's like mutual.
So in response to that, I want to redirect it to Brian.
Brian, I know you don't like or want to go down on women.
Do you, would you, if you were with a girlfriend, would you want her to go down on you?
Yep.
There's a double standard there, ladies.
Do you have a problem with that?
I think he shouldn't expect a girl to go down on him if he won't do the same for the girl.
I agree.
Or at least try.
You can at least learn.
Like, you know, she could teach you.
Was she just incredibly unhygienic or what?
That's what it sounds like.
No, I just, well, okay, I have not gone down on a girl since the Bush administration.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my gosh.
So that's like, what, 2007?
2008?
It's been a minute.
It's been a long time.
Was that an intentional joke, the Bush administration, or is that a serious statement?
Well, it is a serious statement, but it's kind of a pun.
But no pun intended.
No pun intended.
But yes, it has been that long.
Just not a fan, to be honest, you know?
I think everyone has their sexual boundaries, and everyone's free to like certain things and dislike certain things.
But I don't think that's something I did wrong in a relationship because I was justified.
I was righteous in that one.
So I'm curious for Tanner and Zach, what's something you guys do wrong or have done wrong?
It's impossible for me to do anything wrong.
No way.
Couldn't be me.
Tanner's perfect.
Well, about that.
Tanner, you want to go first?
Well, I just did.
I would say, honestly, probably I definitely had a problem with communicating at first, expecting her to be a certain way.
And then through a lot of work, I definitely have been able to at least transmit my, like Chase said, having high standards and everything on how the woman acts and everything.
But just definitely communicating that to her because she could have no idea.
That's probably something I would say.
It's a fair answer.
I actually want a serious answer out of you.
I guess probably being super brazen, you know, just like my way or the highway.
Just super assertive, I guess not very empathetic, as people would say.
Slightly psychopathic.
Oh, very psychopathic.
Yeah, absolutely.
Patrick's mother.
Does this go completely off the walls at the slightest inconvenience?
Not actually, but yeah, I guess really just like lack of empathy, I guess you could say.
I'm just like my wear the highway.
It's just absolute.
So, yeah.
What about you?
What are your red flags, Mr. Mr. I would say I can be insecure to a fault in relationships?
Insecurity is something that I've struggled with in the past.
I think other than that, I'm pretty much perfect.
So just kidding.
But I'd say that's like the biggest red flag.
Ma'am.
I would say I'm kind of a shitty texter.
Like I'm slow to respond to texting.
I don't really like texting.
So I think my big thing is probably if you want to break down would be communication because I'm a shitty texter.
In person, I'm good.
I would agree with that.
Texting.
If I'm texting about something serious with my partner, I immediately want to call.
On that topic, Zach, someone's been asking for your next OnlyFans.
I saw that earlier.
I was just going to.
By the way, whatever has acquired onlyfans.com/slash whatever.
So, Zach, if you're down for a collab on the whatever OnlyFans, like, we'll take a couple steps after the show.
Let's make it happen.
Let me get a pump first.
Jesus.
I'll just write off the bat.
Devon Jackson.
Your neck is like perpetually pumped, dog.
If this is not pumped, I want to see what it is after a pump, bro.
I'll show you.
Sign up for my neck.
We got a super chat here from Day Vaughn Jackson.
Thank you for the $10 Super Chat.
Good to see you back, man.
My name is pronounced Day Vaughn.
My bad, man.
I'll try to remember that.
Damn it.
By the way, love the show.
Chatting for the Almighty algorithm.
Hey, thank you, man.
Much appreciated.
Yeah, shout out to all the chat chads.
Yeah, and by the way, just a reminder here: $500 Super Chat.
I will shave my beard, mustache, whatever, in any style you want.
I'll go shave it, and I'll keep it for the rest of the show.
So just a reminder there, guys.
So we got a chat here from M1 Garand.
Would any of the girls date a guy who legally owned a firearm?
We can do that one really quick.
Would you date a guy who legally owned a firearm?
Yeah.
If it's legally obtained, yeah.
I'm going into law enforcement, so I don't mind it.
You're going into law enforcement?
Yeah.
You want to be a cop?
Yeah, I'm going to SWAT officer.
Oh, shit.
That's awesome.
So yeah, I'm going to be a cop.
Like, I'm going to be a cop and then something higher, hopefully.
But I wouldn't mind if they have it legally.
What county would you work in?
I think back in San Diego, because I lived in San Diego, so I would probably either go back there or LA.
Okay.
Dago County, okay.
Yeah, I guess legally obtained, yes.
Not illegally.
Okay.
Cool.
Would we, are you looking at men with firearms?
I was anticipating maybe the women, since they're Democrats, to not be so thrilled.
I think they all said they were Democrats.
Honestly, like men who don't own guns is not worth dating them.
Any man should triumph a gun.
Not with dating them.
Oh, it's like in your own home, you want to feel safe if anything were to happen.
So.
I mean, for me personally, like I would prefer them not to have a gun.
I think there's other ways for self-defense than owning a gun.
But I wouldn't, like, if I was seeing someone and I was like dating them and they're like, oh, like I have a firearm and it's like registered and everything.
I'm not going to break it off because of that.
But you would prefer.
Maybe I should reframe the question then.
Would you prefer a partner to not have a firearm?
Yeah.
No.
No.
Okay.
I think I'm like trying to, I think I'm I don't know what I think I was trying to say yes or no.
I'm confused now.
Yeah, I'm thinking about it too hard.
Would you prefer he has one or doesn't have one?
At this age, I'd prefer if he did not have one.
Okay.
Yeah.
You said you'd prefer a guy who does self-defense using other methods.
Are we talking like with his firearm?
Not like, no, not like that.
I just mean like I think a gun is a bit extreme.
Like if like, because most people would argue like for a legally obtained firearm in like a circumstance of self-defense.
Like if someone breaks into your home, like most people would argue for that.
I'm just saying like I personally would prefer a different, I don't know.
Let's say you find a great guy.
This great question like where is he?
He's coming.
You find a great guy.
He wants to marry you.
You guys get married.
Would you prefer he defends you against home invaders with a gun or with his fists?
It would depend on what the home invader has in his hand.
You can't decide that.
Like that is not up to you.
You never know.
Or if there's more than one.
If there's more than one.
There's five home invaders.
All of them don't have weapons.
They're ready to throw down with their fists against your husband.
Would you prefer he has his hands or a gun?
Hands.
You don't want he's going to get a gun.
I don't want them dying if they're just coming into my house.
What if after they kill him, they want to rape you?
Wouldn't you want him to have a gun in that instance?
Whoa, I didn't think they were going to kill him.
Well, I mean, they're home invaders.
If he's going to fight, just because you invade someone's home doesn't mean you're going to kill him.
Have you ever been in a fight?
No.
Like I can find him.
Have you ever trained jiu-jitsu or like anything?
No.
Okay.
I mean, if it's 5v1 and he's going to do that, if he's defending your home and he only has his fists and he actually wants to defend you against them, like they're going to beat the shit out of him, maybe kill him.
You'd want him to have a gun in that kind of situation.
You want him to be able to protect you.
To an extent, I don't know, but like I just.
You don't want him to protect you that much, though?
To an extent.
To an extent.
I just, I don't know.
She wants to be somewhat safe, but not totally safe.
Exactly.
I don't know.
I just feel like.
Guns are just a bit extreme.
They're very extreme.
There's a lot of extreme out there.
Yeah, but like people just shouldn't have them.
Look, I'm pretty biased because like, I mean, all three of my jobs that I have, my own business that I have, like, I literally train people like how to use firearms.
And like, I'm telling you guys, if you want somebody that is like traditional, as a man, which you should be like working out, training in martial art, you should be training with firearms.
Speak closer.
Gotcha.
And, yeah, like, every man should own a Glock and know how to use it really well.
Like, I'm telling you, if you have a guy who's, like.
know-how and everything else because i feel like that's why i have a training business yeah Yeah, no, I think emphasis on that is like it would be different if like the guy, you know, the man is trained to know how to use a gun, registered to have a gun, things like that, just because I feel like a lot of people can get a gun without it being like registered and things like that.
Okay.
Do you know what that means?
Are you familiar with the California gun registry?
I'm just saying it's pretty, I feel like, you know, I think it's pretty easy for a lot of people to get a gun just due to all of the school shootings that have been a big thing.
Do you know what steps you have to go through to buy a gun in California?
No.
There's a lot.
There's a lot.
There's a lot of lot.
I'm just making a statement.
It's fair.
Yeah.
I think it's a good thing for mentally stable men to own guns and be trained in self-protection and self-defense.
And I think you would not want your husband squaring up against five dudes solely with his fists.
The thing is, though, like the likelihood of five people invading your home is so small.
I just.
Happened a couple years ago down the road from where I live.
I live a couple miles away from here.
Yeah, but like statistically speaking.
I think there's like a million home invasions in the U.S. a year, something like that.
But like how many homes are there in the U.S.?
Like if you gave a percentage to that, it'd probably be pretty low.
Well, there's 300, there's 300, what is it, almost 330 million people in America.
If there's a million home invasions a year, that's like a 0.3% chance.
And that's like a little bit of a high chance.
Yeah, but then again, how many of those are like five people invading a home?
So that could be one story that I was telling you that happened a couple years ago, a couple miles away from here, there are three invaders.
Each of them had illegally purchased rifles when they did the home invasion.
So that's a situation when you'd want a gun.
I just feel like that's such an extreme circumstance, though.
If you want to roll the dice, that's your choice.
I'll roll them then.
Did you say you live in IV here?
No, I used to, but I live in the bay now.
Okay.
Because I know when I lived here, I lived here for maybe three months and there was home invasions down the block for me almost like every weekend when people would party.
People would come in and start something with them and then steal their computers and stuff.
Whether it be, you know, like the homeless person or anything that doesn't have a gun, still they're not mentally well.
So they happen more frequently around here if you guys do live around here.
Did you say you think people in America shouldn't own guns?
I think there's like.
Are you in favor of repealing the Second Amendment?
I don't, I don't really, I don't know.
I'm just not a fan of guns personally.
I don't, it's just too easy to kill someone with that.
And I think a lot of people abuse the power, even if it's legally obtained.
Wow, sorry.
So I think there should be less.
I don't really know like taking away the Second Amendment necessarily.
Maybe refining it.
I don't know.
What would that look like?
Refining it.
Should we?
Yeah, just to try to bring it back to the dating talk.
But I do want to plug Tanner's business.
If that's cool, Tanner.
Yeah, totally.
Yeah, Tanner, you do firearms training, right?
I do.
Yeah, I do firearms training in Santa Barbara.
It's Adamas firearms training.
Check it out, guys.
Go support.
If you guys want any firearms training here in Santa Barbara.
It's spelled A-D-A-M-A-S.
It is.
If you guys just have, even for free, if you have questions about firearms, gear, training, anything like that, DM me on Instagram.
Just trained by Adamas, and I'll answer your guys' questions for free and help you out.
Logan Paul here has a comment.
Tanner would do well in Los Angeles just being some rich gay dude's boy.
Thanks, Logan Paul.
Logan Paul.
Okay.
Do you have a response to that, Tanner?
Don't swing that way.
Okay.
Logan Paul with the comment there.
Stiffler asks, ask everyone to write their looks on the scale of 1 to 10.
Okay.
1 to 10.
A six, maybe?
Okay.
I'd say an eight.
Eight.
I would say six to seven, depending on the day.
Six.
Eight and a half.
I'd say seven and a half to eight, somewhere in that range.
Six.
Six point nine on a good day.
Six point nine.
Six point nine on a good day.
Six point nine six nine.
Six point nine nine.
Repeating.
Repeating, of course.
Repeating.
Okay.
So, okay.
We'll come back to the.
Should we come back to the men are trash thing?
We didn't really wrap up fully on that.
Well, you guys said it was mostly in the YouTube.
Did you guys want to come in on that?
Do you concur that men are trash?
I used to be really like, yeah, men are trash.
I used to be really big on that because of my personal experience.
I completely know where they're coming from because it's who you've been interacting with and how they've been showing, because them as a man, they've been putting that front of how they are.
And we just assume that's like how most men are.
Like, they're just disrespectful, untrustworthy, and they just want to use you.
But yeah, that's just my opinion.
Emmy, what do you think?
I mean, I used to say the same thing too.
I used to say men are trash all the time, but now I don't.
I do try not to blanket all men as trash.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, there are like, you know, people, there are guys who are like complete, absolute trash.
But I try to be nice.
Like, I try to be nice to both.
They're all genders.
I don't really want to say all that, but there are certain people who are pretty bad.
For sure.
And I just want to clarify once again: do you guys, when you say men are trash, are you saying it in a dating context or are you saying it more generally?
Mine's dating.
Dating.
Okay.
Yeah, dating.
Question for the panel.
If a girl has a poor relationship with her father, do you guys think she's more likely to believe that all men are trash?
No.
I feel a bit attacked right now.
Not attacked at all.
The reason I ask is because it's extremely common.
It's extremely.
It was just a joke, but it's.
It's okay.
Sorry.
Well, it's an interesting topic of conversation.
Like, I think for dudes like me who had rough relationships with their moms, they're probably more likely to think that women are trash.
For women who had rough relationships with their dads, they're probably more likely to think that all men are trash, you know?
I think for people who have like a bad relationship with their dads, they won't automatically assume men are trash, but they do have that thought in the back of their head.
They're like, oh, what if they're like my dad?
But I think most girls, like, they mostly, when they say men are trash, even though they've never dated them or anything, it's just from their friends and their stories of them going through guys and coming crying to us or like telling us how they've been, how they've been treated by them.
We just get all like, oh my God, why are men like this?
I think it goes back to what Tana was saying.
There's a lot of boys in Santa Barbara and not a lot of men.
If this is your sample size for like dudes, this is the worst sample ever for guys here in Santa Barbara.
And I mean, you also have to think that younger men, there's a lot more at stake for them to settle down young than there is for women.
Like men, they can definitely scale themselves like a lot better when they're older, say like late 20s to mid-30s.
There's a lot less at stake for them to settle down at that point, say, versus if they were to settle down with a woman who's like the same age at 22 years old while they're going through college trying to figure themselves out and figure out their income and get all that stuff in line.
Got some super chats here.
Devon Jackson with the $10 super chat.
While it's an extremely low chance it only needs to happen once for your life to be over.
Car crashes are statistically not that prevalent.
You should still wear a seatbelt every time you drive though.
I believe this is obviously in reference to our firearm discussion here.
Dave Vaughan, thank you very much for that.
We got another one from you.
Damn, bro, you're the new Mike Davis.
Mike Davis.
Also, this is an extremely good super chat.
He has a point, Brian.
You can't be a 6.9 if you don't go down on girls, Brian.
So are you saying that are you saying I'm rated higher because I don't go down on women?
I think that's what he's saying.
That I'm actually a 10.
No.
If I don't go down on women.
Dave on, give us another super chat.
Is that what you're saying?
You're telling him he's a 10?
Or is he saying I'm lower if I don't go down?
Well, we were talking about strictly looks, too, for the ratings.
yeah but uh anyways anyways All right.
We'll ask.
We'll ask the girls.
Is it a deal breaker for you if a guy won't go down on you?
Seems like a yes.
I would say, I mean, okay, well, if it's like, if I'm like in love with the guy, no.
But if it's like a little thing, then yeah, like I would find someone better.
Okay.
Oh, shit.
Okay, he came in with the other one.
Deal breaker for you if a guy won't go down on you.
Like I said, I think it depends.
Like, if he's expecting me to go down on him, but he won't go down on me, that would be a deal breaker for me, because I don't really think that's fair.
But if he communicated the beginning and like he schooled not receiving either, then it is what it is.
Fair enough.
Same with her.
Like, if he expects me to go down on him, but he won't do the same for me, it's a no-go.
But also, maybe, like, he's just not comfortable in a relationship.
Or like, if you're in a relationship and he doesn't want to go down on you, he's just not comfortable yet, and he wants to wait, then I could wait.
And also, it's not a deal breaker, but it would be nice because it kind of builds that chemistry, like that connection with each other.
I don't know.
I don't think it's a deal breaker, just because I personally haven't had the greatest experience with that.
So when somebody is trying to say that they want to do that, I'm usually like, I don't know.
Just because just like from my experience, like it has been not very good.
So I'm like, please, if you don't want to do that, that's fine by me.
That's a relationship.
Why is question for the bros?
If a chick won't go down on you guys, is that a deal breaker?
Deal breaker.
Like, if she wants to be in a relationship with me, like, why don't you go down on me?
Just red flag.
No way.
I have a question now.
I don't think it's a deal breaker.
I agree with you.
It's not a deal breaker, but it's.
It's not a deal breaker, but that's rough.
That's rough.
I have a question for the guys.
You know, so is it a deal breaker in a way?
Like, I don't know.
Is it more of a turn off when a girl isn't as experienced at giving head?
Or I don't know.
That's specifically giving head.
Specifically, like giving head.
Like, you know, if a girl isn't really that experienced in it and you ask her, hey, like, can you give me head?
And she's like, well, I'm not really, like, experienced.
I don't really know how I feel about that.
Like, how would you react?
I'd say that's a good thing.
I'll teach her.
Yeah.
I know what I like.
Yeah.
I agree with Tanner.
Pretty much a good thing.
Yeah.
I think, and I think men are attracted to women who are sexually inexperienced.
Exactly.
So.
Yeah, and if she's got that got Gawk 9000 and she's like incredible at giving it, you kind of have to ask, like, all right, how many, how many dudes have you done this to?
And like, are you just incredibly experienced in this?
And like, I don't know if she was, that might be pretty significant.
What if she's a natural?
Well, that also happens.
That also happens.
And more power to them.
That's good.
You know?
It's a very good thing.
All right.
Devon Jackson is responding here.
No, I'm telling him he's a disappointment out of 10.
Okay.
Dave Vaughn, my bad.
Dave Vaughan.
Okay.
What do you think about that, Brian?
Did you say that?
That I'm a disappointment out of 10.
Yeah.
Not big.
Okay.
I mean, it's basically just, I have my boundaries and things I like and dislike.
Just everyone's free to have their own preferences and boundaries.
I think we can be confident Brian and Dave Vaughan do not have a future together.
Yeah.
Wait, no, I think Devon's a man.
Yeah.
Oh, still Rip.
Still RIP in the chat.
Oh, okay.
Rip.
Devon Jackson with another $10 soup shot.
Dude, you're fucking legend, man.
Also, separate question.
I got into a big debate about this for everyone on the panel.
Is sex a need in a relationship?
And for the women, is it fair to keep a man in a sexless, monogamous relationship?
Should the guys go first on this one, Lee?
Or should we have the girls go first?
Guys, go first.
We've been answering every question.
Sure.
So, okay, we'll go this way then.
Yeah, sex is absolutely necessary in a relationship.
It doesn't have to be on the first date, but I think generally speaking, like a three-date rule is good.
Three dates?
Three times hanging out.
That's a good rule for that.
So, yeah.
Do you think it would be fair if your woman kept you in a sexless, monogamous relationship?
I mean, I'd probably break up with her if she if it was a dead bedroom.
There might be some extenuating circumstances if there were, you know, if she was willing to open it up unilaterally so she was still loyal, but I could sleep with other women, then in those circumstances, I'd be okay with it.
And she was kind of my she was providing me with my, she was my main chick, emotional support or whatever.
But yeah, I mean, I think kind of sex is very important in a relationship.
So generally speaking, yeah, that's probably a deal breaker and the relationship's over, I think.
Yeah, I mean, I'm waiting for marriage.
And when I do get married, obviously it's going to be a need.
I'm not going to live in a sexless marriage.
That sounds like the worst thing literally on the planet.
It also tells us in scripture not to, for husbands and wives not to deprive one another of their bodily needs when it comes to sex.
I think that's probably one of those conversations that I'll have with the woman that I want to make my wife before we get married, you know, to discuss this.
Because like I would go nuts if I was married and like couldn't have sex with my wife for whatever reason she was withholding it.
Like that, that would be awful.
So yeah.
Yeah, I mean like primorally we're attracted to other people because it's like, oh, like I'd want to mate with you.
You know what I mean?
I don't want to appropriate with you.
So if somebody was like, oh, I'm not attracted enough to you to like have sex with you, then yeah, they're like, there's nothing really there.
You know, there's no way I'd stay in a relationship like that.
It also keeps relationships.
Sorry to interrupt you.
It keeps relationships really healthy.
Yeah.
Like when a couple is having a lot of sex, especially if you're married, like that keeps the two of you close for a long time.
It's a chemistry.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a bond.
It's a bond that you can't really break after marriage.
I feel like, especially in marriage, it is a necessity, but I believe before marriage, it's not.
Yep, obviously, because in marriage, procreation and everything, it's one of the greatest things that we can have.
Amen to that.
Are you a Christian?
I am.
Cheers, bro.
Cheers.
I wish they could link.
That's fine.
We'll open that up to the women now.
I think it's, yeah, it's important.
I think it's important to have sex while you're in a relationship and married.
But I feel like, I don't know, sometimes.
What is going on out there, dude?
Home invasion.
I don't know.
Can you repeat the question?
Oh, it's just this one.
Is sex needed in a relationship, and is it fair to keep a man in a sexless, monogamous relationship?
So I do think that sex is important in a relationship or marriage.
But I think depending on what the reason behind why the woman might not want sex, like if a woman is on birth control, sometimes like women don't have that much of a sex drive, and so it's kind of hard to want it as much.
But if you're in a serious relationship, I don't think that it should not be a thing.
Is it fair to keep a man in a sexless, monogamous relationship?
Is that fair?
No.
Okay.
So I think sex is not needed.
For marriage, yes.
Not needed.
Like, for a marriage, I think, yeah, it's important.
It's that connection.
And you guys could express each other how you're feeling through sex.
But before marriage, I think you guys could, like, you could do other things rather than sex.
If the other person's not comfortable or like they have religious beliefs that they're waiting for marriage.
So you guys could do other things.
And then there's always that, if you can't have a chemistry without sex or like you guys don't have that connection, then you guys shouldn't be together because sex won't always be there.
I totally agree.
I think a lot of people end up in marriages that they shouldn't have ended up in because they were having sex before marriage and they fell in love because of the sexual connection.
And I've spoken, I've told these guys that like at my gym, I've met a bunch of old dudes who got divorced and all of them got divorced after that initial physical attraction wore off and then they realized there wasn't really much there in the relationship.
Happens a lot.
Yeah, it's all with the boy mentality of like priorities in a relationship.
You know, guys can get really distracted with a woman's looks and the sexual aspect.
And then when it comes down to who she is as a person, that's usually when little boys start losing interest.
100% agree with that.
Well said.
Yeah.
Wait, you never answered.
Do you think it's okay for a woman to keep a man in a sexless, monogamous relationship?
Like if it's in marriage.
In marriage, no.
Cool.
Okay, I do think sex is needed in a relationship.
I don't think there's a necessary timeline, whatever works for the two partners, but I think sex is needed to a degree because if not, then it's just more of like a friendship relationship rather than like a romantic relationship.
And I don't think it's okay for a woman to keep a man in a sexless monogamous relationship and vice versa.
Any partner should have the right to leave.
There shouldn't be no keeping.
I'm just going to keep it quick.
I think sex is extremely important and I think it's needed.
And I think it's definitely not fair for a woman to keep a guy in a relationship if she's not giving that to him.
We have a follow-up super chat on that.
But really quick, we have Virks here, a channel member.
He's asking for body count.
He wants body count from the panel.
Do you guys want to share a body count?
What's your body count?
What's your body count, Emmy?
I'm going to say five.
You're going to say five.
I'm going to say five.
Okay.
Nine.
Three.
Ten.
That's personal.
I'm honestly just not going to answer that.
I know you're going to say the same thing, too.
You guys are both pussies.
Mine's seven.
You don't know.
Mine's seven.
Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
Okay.
You've been running through hoes, haven't you, Zach?
No.
No?
Okay.
I don't live like that.
I just think it's personal information.
That's totally fine.
Can't confirm.
So we do have a follow-up here from Dayvon.
I can't tell you how many women told me it's not a need or blame the man for her not wanting it.
But if I say then let him be open on his end, I get called a misogynist or that I feel entitled to her body.
You know, what is interesting about that is that who would you, just really quick, like, who do you think pushes for monogamy more?
Men or women?
Like, who's usually the one that's like pushing to be in a committed, serious, monogamous relationship?
Men or women?
What's monogamous mean?
You're not hooking up with anybody else.
Women are like, committed.
Exclusively seeing one another.
I don't know.
I feel like more women than men.
Because you often hear women complain about men are commitment phobic.
Men are not willing to commit.
But when men do commit, then you sometimes hear women complain about, oh, he's always all up on me.
He always wants to have sex.
But, I mean, that's kind of like what you bargain for, right?
If you're going to be his sole person for sexual access, then he's obviously going to want to have sex just with you.
I feel like also different people have different sex drives.
Like maybe the guy has more of a sex drive than the woman.
Right.
But that also depends on their relationship.
There can definitely be compromises and stuff.
So, anyways, moving on, Dayvon, thank you for that $10 soup chat.
So normally I ask this question earlier, a bit earlier on in the show, but I'm going to get to it now.
So is there anything dating related that you want to get off your chest?
Just to give you a couple prompts, maybe you recently had a bad date experience.
Men are pissing you off in some way.
There's a trend in dating that annoys you, or for this side of the table, women are annoying you in some way.
Anything you want that you want to get off your chest when it comes to dating?
Anything?
I'll come.
If you give me a minute, I'll come back.
Sure, we can come back to you.
I think, I mean, this is definitely more of a personal thing, but if someone's like super duper attentive right in the beginning, like constantly like texting me or calling me, that puts me off a bit.
But I mean, like, that's definitely like a personal thing.
So I don't know if it's like a generic problem, but I think it's pretty common.
Okay.
Oh, no.
I want a woman obsessed from the jump.
Yeah, but all chicks get turned off by double text, dude.
Yeah.
Oh, well, I don't do that shit.
But.
Okay, my turn.
So I think it's when they want to hang out every day and like I can't have time to myself.
Like I just want, what if I want to sleep?
I just want to take a nap.
Like you don't have to be there.
Like it's not like I don't love you or anything.
It's just you can't text me so like I have my phone on do not disturb always and forever.
I'll never take it off.
And like if they text me so much and they expect me to respond to their spamming, their spamming, it's just, it makes me like have like, I'll get uninterested.
You respect your space.
Yeah.
Yeah, I feel that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're busy, right?
It's like you got shit going on.
Yeah.
I feel that.
I think both of your guys' answers are connected.
I think what it is, is I think women, if I can speak for you guys, you probably want guys that have other stuff going on in their lives.
You're not the sole center focus of his life.
You obviously probably want to be important to a guy, but you don't want him to be the only thing going on in his life because that probably means he lives a pretty boring life, right?
Well, also, It's different when you're in a relationship with someone and you're talking to them more often.
Like you want to genuinely hear about their day and stuff.
But if you're like just interacting with someone and they're like texting you and then calling you and I'm like, I don't even have your number saved yet.
Can you please slow down?
Like that's really annoying.
Many such cases.
Yeah.
I would need to come back.
I can't think of anything.
Do you have something?
Mine would only piggyback off of theirs, so it would be kind of repetitive.
Oh, okay.
By the way, I just want to call Entertain Me Out here.
Entertain Me.
You said that you refuse to super chat until Chase comes back.
And here we are.
Where's it at, bro?
Where's it at?
You said it.
Your words.
You're men of your word entertainment.
Step up, dog.
Step it up.
Step it up.
I want to hear something good.
Entertain me.
I know you got Fuego.
I've seen your comments, bro.
Hit us with something good.
Spice it up, Doug.
On this side of the panel, is there anything dating related that you guys want to get off your chest?
Maybe a bad date experience?
Just something about dating apps or hookup culture, just anything off.
I think the sense, the overall sense of entitlement that many young women, especially here in America, have, that they can spend like all of their 20s getting just ran through by a million guys and then settle down once they get around 30 and find this amazing dude and everything is going to work out happily ever after.
I think that's very unrealistic.
I think it's something, I'm not saying this is any of you guys, but it's a sentiment a lot of women have.
I just think it's ridiculous and so toxic.
And I think it's destroying the West.
I guess to piggyback off that is like a big thing.
Should we type the girls?
Do you guys have anything you want to say to that?
Do you agree?
I do agree because like you have to kind of plan it out like from the start.
You can't just do the hookup culture and do whatever you want and not have any goals or anything.
And then once you're a certain age, you're like, oh, you want this, you want that, you want everything.
Like you want the money, you want the perfect guy.
It just won't come to you if you just didn't start from the beginning.
Yep.
Any other responses?
I'm just, I don't, I just, I don't really understand that.
I'm just like, why does it matter if she has like 20 bodies or even more?
I just, I don't, I get it if she has some sort of like STD or something, but I mean, if she doesn't, what's the problem?
So statistics show that the more people someone sleeps with, the higher the odds of them getting divorced.
This is like hard data.
I personally want.
How is that correlated to each other?
I don't understand that.
Because I think it's a couple things.
I think for one, well, I know for one, when people have sex with one another, you release oxytocin.
Okay.
I think if you're releasing oxytocin with a bunch of different people, it's probably going to blunt your response and your pair bonding mechanism.
Like I was talking with a guy that I know the other day.
He said he slept with like over 150 women and it's really hard for him to form like a deep connection with women now.
The statistic for people that have only slept with one person or not slept with anybody at all before they get married, their odds of getting a divorce are like 5 to 10%.
So that's a huge difference.
That's a one in two chance versus like a one in 10 or 1 in 20 chance.
Yeah.
So that's one thing.
And then the other thing too is like, I mean, I would prefer, you know, if I'm going to buy a car, I'd prefer to buy a new car rather than a car with 500,000 miles on it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And I think it's also reasonable for women to want the same thing.
You know?
Like, wouldn't you guys find it more attractive if a guy saved himself for you specifically?
Some women like guys with a lot of experience.
Yeah, that's me personally.
Like, you want a guy who knows his way around a woman's body.
Yeah.
Or it shows him that he's like on the market, or I guess he's like hot on the market before you meet him.
It's like all these girls want him.
Yeah.
And then you have him, and then it feels a little bit more special.
Or is it just because he's experienced?
It's just because he's more experienced.
Like, I mean, I'm still young, though.
That's the thing.
Like, I'm just kind of living my life now.
But as of right now, like me at 18, I would rather have someone more experienced.
See, the problem that I see is like a lot of, I know a lot of girls who like, they have this expectation that they can like have sex with all the Chads when they're in their 20s and then find a Chad and settle down with him when they're like around 30 or whatever.
But all the 30-year-old Chads don't want a woman that's been ran through who's 30 years old.
They want a younger, fresher woman, so to speak.
And it sucks because a lot of these women end up single because they had their standards so high, but now they can't find a guy who meets those standards and they end up single and childless.
It's a mummy.
They end up with some totally weak dude that's just merely taking what he can get and that's it.
Beta bucks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's my take on it.
So basically, men don't want the town bicycle.
That's right.
Basically, men don't want the town bicycle.
Not paying full price with a car with my electricity.
We have a big $50 super chat here.
Davon Jackson with the $50 Super Chat this whole shit.
Entertain me into Super Chatting for Chase.
Chase.
Hashtag Chase the Chat.
Dog.
Davon Jackson absolutely mogging entertain me right now.
Entertain me.
What do you got, bro?
Come on.
And he started the hashtag in your namesake.
So there you go.
Appreciate that.
Yo, thank you for the continuous support.
Week after week, Dayvon, much appreciated.
Do you guys think that expectation that I have is reasonable?
She already answered.
What do you guys think?
I don't know.
I think everyone has a right to pick and choose how many people they sleep with, who they sleep with.
If you personally are saving yourself and you want your partner not to have a high number, you guys are pretty much on an equal playing field.
If it was like you're like, I'm going to catch as many as I can, but she has to stay low, I think that's where it's messed up because you have like different expectations of one another.
But if you guys are like both on the same playing field, I personally don't see a problem with that.
But I don't think you should like discredit someone just because of like how many people they've accumulated per se.
Understood.
I think Andrew Tate would have a lot to say in response to that.
Oh, God.
Much more about us than I think.
We don't have to.
I think we could.
I think we all know.
I mean, it depends on if they want to hear it.
We have some other videos to react to, too, but I don't think everyone's yet had an opportunity to answer your question that you posed to the panel.
So did anyone else want to come back in on this?
I honestly like what Ari said.
Okay.
I agree with her too.
All right.
So Verks, thank you for the two gifted memberships, man.
Much appreciated.
Devon Jackson, again, with the $10 super chat.
I don't need a woman that has experience.
I need a woman that matches my effort.
In the bedroom, also imagine thinking who you've allowed into your body has no bearing on who you are as a person.
Facts on both counts.
Agreed.
It's a great question.
I suppose we could just comment.
Yes or no, ask the panel, does body count matter?
Should body count matter?
Sure.
I don't think so, as long as you're being safe and actually getting tested.
I don't think so, as long as you're being safe and getting tested and being honest with the people that you're sleeping with.
Let's say the guy that you get married to or you meet a guy who you want to get married to, but he slept with like 200 women, would that change your perspective on him?
Make him less desirable?
I think if I had gotten married to him and I already built this bond with him and everything else, and then that was to be brought up, I think like I would not end the relationship because of that.
Okay.
You wouldn't get divorced because of that?
I wouldn't get divorced because of that.
No.
Would you ask him his body count beforehand and would that like play a factor into whether or not you would marry him?
I personally have never asked any guy their body count in my experience.
It's usually the other way around.
So it's just like, I don't know.
And like I'm pretty like open and honest and like I used to be a sex educator.
So what's that?
A sex educator.
So back in my hometown.
Prostitute?
No, a sex.
A sex educator.
I taught people sex ed.
I taught people sex ed.
So in my hometown, we didn't have health class.
We didn't have health class.
So there was this clinic near my high school.
And people can get birth control, free condoms, get plan B tested for free.
And I would have this stuff in my backpack, right?
And so people could text me like, hey, you got plan B, I'd go give it to them.
So you're the condom girl.
Oh, yeah.
I have a condom girl.
You need a plan B, Ella, whatever.
They could be like, yo, Jordan, hit me up.
One hometown, where's this?
This is in Sonoma County.
Did you also give them actual sex education?
Yeah.
Yeah, and like people would come up to me and tell me what symptoms they had and I would tell them like what most likely it is.
And then they would just go to the clinic and they can go there confidential without their parents knowing and getting the tested and resources that they needed.
And I think that's pretty important because my like friends in other cities and stuff, they all have like kids now or something at a young age.
So I think, so.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm very open and honest about that kind of stuff.
Do you think body count matters?
I think body count matters because as long as you're on the same page with the other person, but if the other person that believes body count does matter and they have such a high body count and they want somebody who has like under five, I think that's just double standards.
And I personally, I do want somebody that has a lower body count.
And because I wouldn't like shame or hate somebody for having a high body count.
Like you do what you have to do.
It's your body, your choice.
But that's just my personal, like, what I believe and what I want.
What's the maximum body count for your future husband that you'd be okay with?
Like, as long as, I think once it hits the double digits, it's when it's like.
That's when he's ran through.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Men can't really be ran through.
Also, elaborate.
Please elaborate.
Yeah, what do you mean?
How can a man?
Well, straight men can't be ran through.
Fair point.
Fair point.
Go.
That's true.
So I do think men who have a promiscuous past, to what Chase was saying before about how it has an impact on both men and women in terms of your ability to pair bond with a partner.
If a guy has slept with 200 women, it is going to have some impact on your ability to pair bond, but it's not going to be my take on this, and I think there might have even been some studies on this.
It's not going to have as big of an impact on if a man's promiscuous.
Sorry, if a man is promiscuous, it's not going to have as big of an impact as it will have on if a woman is promiscuous.
What kind of an impact are you talking about, though?
Is that men release less oxytocin than women do when they sleep with someone?
Like the pair bonding chemical in your brain.
So you're saying, so you're saying when if men have a higher body count, they're not like when women sleep with more people, they're more kind of connected to those people.
Yes, okay.
Yeah.
And there's this concept that I think Chase very eloquently articulated a few podcasts ago.
And I mean, it's kind of a nerdy term to use, but there's this concept of imprinting or alpha widow.
And once the more men you've slept with, eventually you're going to sleep with a top G, a fucking really tier guy.
Legend.
Because here's the thing: men will sleep down.
So the trouble women get in is that you can secure sex from a guy who's very high status, who's above you in terms of attractiveness.
He's not going to commit to you, but he will sleep with you.
But when that happens, you've now sort of that is your framework for future men.
So if you start, if you're able to sleep with a certain tier of men, let's say, then the men that are actually on your equivalent level, let's just say, you're not going to be attracted to them.
So what would otherwise be your looks equivalent, your attractiveness equivalent, your socioeconomic equivalent, even if it's equal, you're no longer going to view that person as a good candidate because you've, what's the term?
You've tasted the better life, let's say.
I know a lot of chicks, like they were with some amazing dude at one point in time.
He broke her heart.
After the fact, they get new relationships.
They can never stop thinking about that one guy that got away.
Many such cases.
That's a problem.
Happens.
It's a thing.
Ari's looking at me like, I don't know.
I've never met that guy.
So I'm not sure about that.
I don't know.
Once you like, you sleep with a certain tier of guy, maybe he has some status.
Maybe he's just incredibly good looking.
Maybe he's insanely good in bed.
All your future partners, you are going to compare to that guy.
Yep.
And you were shooting outside of your league, but like you guys specifically.
No, no, no.
Just kidding.
I'm kidding.
But so the more partners a woman has had, the more likely that she's been with a guy who's just so high, high tier.
Because men can't really sleep with a girl outside of their league.
Like, it happens, but it's very rare.
It's pretty rare.
I think in Santa Barbara, it's pretty common.
I see a lot of questionable dudes getting with pretty average.
I mean, they might be.
So men can make themselves attractive in other ways.
They can make themselves attractive through finances, through status.
So there's something to be said for charisma too.
So there are other means with which men can make themselves attractive, but yeah.
I want to know.
Another thing I wanted to come off of that is just like how men date down.
Men can date down.
But like.
Oh, yeah.
Like we honestly, as men, like we don't really care like what your status is as a woman.
Like you could have any career just as long as you're respectful and like pretty.
You know, I'm not going to ask you how much you make or I guess what your status is.
I think guys care a lot less about that.
Yeah.
Definitely.
Yeah.
Drake, Drake will date a baddie who works at Chick-fil-A.
And he's a multi-millionaire, one of the highest, super high status.
So that's a good point.
Yeah, that is a good point.
I mean, because I've heard that before, and as soon as the first time I've heard that, I was just like, wow, that's really true.
Because I've never really thought about I've actually never heard that before.
I never really thought of my partner's status, but I know girls care about the status of their partner a lot more than guys do.
For me personally, granted, I'm 22, so like the people I've dated are around the same age, so like don't have a lot of work experience.
As long as you're goal-oriented and you are ambitious, that's what matters for me.
Like, you might not have a job right now, but like you're like, this is what I want to do, whether it makes a little money or a lot.
I think that's way more attractive than having a lot of cash or something.
Yeah.
I think that's reasonable too.
Because that's a signal that he's probably going to go places, be able to take care of you well.
Well, I just think it's like a good, like, even for me personally, like you want, even like your friends, you know, you want them to be doing something, like, trying to make their life more meaningful.
Not necessarily getting the most money out of something, but just like to have a passion in life, I think is attractive.
Men need a mission.
Sure.
They need a mission and a purpose.
And men who don't have a mission or a purpose are often rudderless, just getting blown around by the waves of life, in my opinion.
Not to get too poetic on Yari.
I mean, I think it can go for anyone.
It doesn't have to just be men.
I think in general, it's just unattractive when nobody has, when that person doesn't have goals, like a man or a woman.
Like, you have to have goals.
You want to build something for yourself.
Even if you don't have money right now, which doesn't even matter.
It's just, you want to be happy with your life.
Like, you want a career that makes you happy.
You can't just be, you can't depend on other people.
Yeah.
So you've never heard that though?
I mean, I have never really heard somebody speak on that before.
Does it make sense?
I feel like maybe past generations, it kind of makes sense.
I feel like maybe past generations, it kind of makes sense just because a lot of women didn't really have that successful of jobs back then.
But I feel like now I feel like it's a little bit different.
I don't know.
Because I feel like I'm going to, even though I'm going into nursing, I'm doing something else after that.
And like, I don't know.
I feel like a lot more women now have more purpose to have a more successful job.
So it is interesting to hear that guys do think of it that way.
That like it doesn't really matter what kind of a job she has, but I think it's pretty important.
Yeah, so sorry, I don't want to cut you off.
But do you think like on happiness-wise, down the road, do you think you'll be more happy in a career or like, I guess, being a mother?
What would you find more happiness with?
With a great guy.
Yeah, not with, not some loser.
Great guy.
That can provide for you and protect you and everything.
Like, what would bring you more happy?
Like, which I would think, like, don't need to speak for you guys, but I think coming home to a family would be probably one of the most happiest things I'm working for.
Yeah, I think I would be happy to raise my own family at home and stuff.
But I think it's a lot to expect from a woman day in and day out.
And I think it's important to have your own hobbies and stuff and have your own hobbies and not be in the house 24-7.
I feel like that's really hard.
So I think at least having even a part-time job or something like that, getting out of the house at some point, not she has to only be indoors in the house always.
She can't leave.
She can't leave.
Even if you're driving someone like me, I don't know.
I just feel like I feel like that's like a lot to expect from someone.
I don't know.
I don't.
Do you think it's a lot to expect from a man for him to be working his ass off constantly to provide for the family?
Well, what if the woman also wants to has like a great career?
We're leaving that out of the equation.
Leaving it out of the equation.
Do you think it's a lot to expect for a man to be working constantly to provide for his family?
No.
That's not a lot to expect from a man, but it is a lot to expect from a woman to be spending her time focusing on the children.
I think like women are better at mothering children than men, per se, but I don't think like it should automatically be something.
That's not an answer to the question.
It's not a lot to expect from a man for him to be busting his ass, working constantly to provide for a family.
But it is a lot to expect from a woman for her to be working hard, busting her ass to raise the family.
That's a lot to expect from a woman.
I feel like I can kind of say like a little bit of experience just because I worked in daycare for a long time and I've also worked and had two jobs at the same time.
So I feel like I have a different opinion on that.
I don't know.
They can say what they want.
Sorry, we can move on from it if you guys want.
I feel like we won't get anywhere with it.
I was curious to know what your answer was, though.
Does body count matter?
You never answered, right?
No, I think I did.
Am I just an idiot?
No, you did, and I agreed with you.
What was your answer again?
Yeah, what was your answer?
It doesn't really matter, like, as long as expectations are the same.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay, right.
Yo, chat.
chat there's this chick in the chat called cheese amethyst with these bogus fucking characters talking mad uh one in the chat are we is that a block Chat, I haven't been reading chat much, but she's talking mad shit.
Chat, is it a block or what?
One in the chat if it's a block or two if I let it go.
What did she say?
Oh, man.
She keeps saying I'm smug and condescending, but I don't.
I think I'm a bitch.
You're so smug and condescending, you dick.
I guess so.
What's wrong with you with the most smug guy I've ever met?
Dude, my little flannel.
I have a question.
What is the seven that you often put on your lapel?
The seven?
Yeah, what is that?
I'm going to reveal what that means on our 77th show.
Okay.
Yeah.
Joe J said it's the checkered shirt.
Your chuckered shirt is very smug and arrogant, dude.
How dare you?
I guess.
Okay.
Wow.
The chat is in favor of keeping there.
I don't know.
She's been saying some shit.
She was saying that I'm getting under your trigger.
She might be trolling.
I don't know, but she's saying some shit like Brian and his, he wants an 18-year-old submissive wife to have ugly children with.
I'm like, okay.
What?
So rude?
Pretty rude.
She's so rude.
Is that her?
Is that the chick?
The she's right there.
Yeah, right in the corner.
Yeah, she's just been saying that that was, I mean, the condescending shit, I don't really care, but what she's saying, like.
She's trying to get under your chest.
She's saying like she knows you're a stud.
She's saying my 18-year-old submissive wife would produce ugly children, apparently.
Okay.
Well, I mean, you do have a preference for 4'11 beef curtain queens, so that means she might be right, dude.
She's still a babe, just she's 4'11, dude.
Okay, right.
Still going to be a babe.
I bet that chick has pronouns in her bio.
The chick, oh, the amethyst chick?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think she's just trolling.
I'm not pressed, but.
4'11?
4'10, sir?
4'10.
4'11 too tall.
You're 5 feet, right?
I'm 5'3.
Oh, you're the short one.
But I'm also wearing shoes that make me a little bit more.
You're too tall for me.
Miss 5 feet.
You're just too tall.
Okay, so let's react to a video.
We've been meaning to do a video.
Do we have any super chats?
Eric, any no, I think we're good on super chats.
Yeah, we did.
No, I don't think so.
I think we did this one, right?
Right.
Yeah, we did that as well.
Wait, what?
Which one?
Oh, shit.
Sorry, I missed this one.
Yeah, someone created this.
Oh, look at that profile picture.
Dude, people have also been asking oriented questions.
Zach, what is your next body count?
How many people is your neck killer?
Putin will hear me.
I know I can't.
Wait, is that from your Instagram?
No, that's not.
No, that's not me.
No, that's got to be you.
You say Putin will hear you?
Yeah, that's another.
Zach's neck.
He's like, hey, Putin's listening.
Are you sure that's not from your Instagram?
That's not my Instagram.
Maybe it's Photoshopped?
That's me.
No, I'm kidding.
It could be.
No, I have no idea who that person is.
But thank you for the $10 Canadian dollars.
What do the ladies think about hickeys?
Really quick.
I mean, I don't care.
You can give them.
I don't care.
Okay.
I mean, now that we're older, I'm like, I just think it's kind of weird to have like a fat ass thing on your neck, but like teach their own word.
I think it's weird when you're like not dating or anything and they give you a hickey, like kind of marking you.
Oh, that's just weird.
Yeah.
For sure.
I think that's weird, but I also, I don't know, I also wouldn't want anybody to give me a hickey like on my neck.
Anything below is fine, just because like I go to school and work every day.
So when I was 16 years old, there was this girl that I hooked up with one night, and she left the largest hickey you could ever imagine on my neck.
And the very next day, my family was buying my car for me, and my grandmother had come down to town to do this, and I had forgotten that it was happening the next day.
I walked up to the lot at the dealership lot with this just absurd and disrespectful hickey.
And my dad asked me if I'd been attacked by a vacuum cleaner the night before.
And my grandma was like, what is that?
And I was like, oh, like I got hit by something like nothing.
She was like, what the fuck is that?
Yeah.
They all know.
100%.
Yeah, my dad was like, you dog.
Okay.
Yeah, hickeys are terrible.
Oh, grace.
They're awful.
And apparently, Wait Verks came in here.
Oh, wait.
Yeah, he mentioned blood.
He mentioned blood clots.
I guess there's a risk of getting blood clots from hickeys.
So yeah.
Especially nowadays.
Yeah, if a girl starts going for it, I'm like, yo, calm down.
Relax.
What are you doing?
Is it a red flag if somebody does that, but you're not like dating her official?
I don't think it's a red flag if she goes for it.
The red flag for me is I've had someone ask me to give them one, and I'm like, that's weird.
That's kind of weird.
That's weird.
Did you ask him why he wanted it?
I was like, he's like, can you give me one?
I was like, no, not doing that.
Pass on that one.
Just shot down.
Enter me.
The clock is ticking.
Entertain me.
I'm waiting for you to entertain me, bro.
You left a comment, dude.
You got to be a man of your word, my friend.
Okay.
We're going to react to a video here.
Eric, if you can switch over to the video tab.
First one, please.
Heather bought me her list of requirements, so let's check them out.
He must be between 30 and 45, financially stable, no kids, 5, 10 or taller, no hookups or flings.
Ready to settle down.
No roommates, no smoking.
Must love dessert and can't be anti-sugar.
What?
What's the deal with the desserts?
Well, okay, that's a really important one because I'm the founder and CEO of my own frosting company.
And so it's an all-natural gourmet frosting.
And so I make a lot of desserts.
And I do a lot of, you know, trade shows and making desserts.
So he has to like dessert.
If he doesn't like dessert, it's totally a deal breaker.
Totally a deal breaker.
Totally a deal breaker.
Okay.
But there's some more requirements.
So let's take a look at these.
Must be honest, reliable, sweet and kind, quick-witted, romantic, must love food, must pay on the first date, no flowers on the first date, must be a social drinker, and must never wear sweatpants.
What?
I mean, those are basics.
He can't wear sweatpants.
No, the last guy I dated, we fought all the time because he wanted to go to Starbucks in sweatpants and go to breakfast in sweatpants.
And no one should be doing that.
Yeah.
Wow.
Okay, well, we got some more requirements, but we don't have no more room.
Guys, let me get one of the pillars over here.
Okay.
All right, here we go.
Let's see.
Must be adventurous, must be humble, must be spontaneous, must be a planner, can't be self-centered, can't be cocky, must love dogs, can't own a dog from a breeder, can't be jealous of her dog, and can't own a cat.
The hell, what?
You, you, you can't buy a, you can't have a dog from a breeder?
Yeah, I mean, listen, Steve, there's so many dogs out there that are in need of homes that are shelter dogs, and they're really sweet, great dogs.
So any guy that's going to spend a ton of money to buy a purebred dog, it just says something about his character.
I don't like that.
Yeah, he wants a dog.
Be an adopt.
Anyways, we're going to probably come back to that video here in a sec, but I want to get your guys' reaction to that.
I don't know if I should have the girls go first or let the guys go, but she's got quite the laundry list there of expectations or demands for a partner.
What do you guys think about that?
Reasonable, unreasonable?
That gave me a headache, to be honest.
That was, oh my God, that was annoying.
Yeah, holy fuck.
About to went through my head.
That was a lot.
I couldn't even process half of that.
I really thought the sweatpants thing was weird because I feel like a lot of ladies kind of like a man in sweatpants.
So that one was weird to see.
Zach, thoughts?
I can just say she's probably not mentally well.
That's all I can say.
Ridiculous.
Facts.
She is nowhere near attractive enough to be making all those requirements.
Yeah, that's where I was kind of going with it.
Chase, I would just say there's a good reason she's single and she'll probably stay that way for a while.
What do you think, bro?
I mean, I had to get up there for a bit, but I've seen the video before.
So yeah, I mean, her list is kind of pretty crazy.
I don't know, Eric, if you can go ahead and pull it back up.
The hunter can't own a boat.
Oh, wait.
Oh, she's strong.
Can you pause it really quick?
She can't own a boat.
Cannot own a boat.
Can you go back about midway?
Can't be stronger than her either.
Yeah, her dating pool is going to be so small.
Actually, go forward just a little bit.
Yeah, just play it from there.
She has some more guys.
Man, damn, glad I'm a dog.
We're not done yet.
We can get another pillar.
In fact.
Yeah.
Let's bring all of them in here.
Bring both of them.
I think we noticed it was top of the middle of the day.
I love it.
Wow.
Is this ready?
I don't know what you're doing.
Must be in shape.
Can't have six-pack abs.
Can't have six-pack abs.
Can't be too skinny.
Can't have a runner's physique.
Can't be stronger than me.
Can't be a sale.
Sports.
Can't be a hunter.
Can't own a boat.
Can't be a gamer.
Can't be materialistic.
I'm out.
You can't have any hobbies.
No hobbies allowed.
That would be out.
Can't be materialistic.
What does that mean?
He can't want anything.
He can't want to buy things all the time.
Can you talk to my wife?
Probably.
Okay, let's keep going.
Must respect a gluten-free.
Must respect a gluten-free diet.
Can't be too close to family and friends.
That's right.
Must open the door somewhere.
Must be willing to move someplace warm.
Must love traveling.
Can't brag about traveling.
We can go there, but you can't tell nobody.
You shut your mouth.
What you telling everybody we was in Arizona for?
Must maintain eye contact.
Can't be a party boy.
Can't be intimidated by me.
Favorite season.
What?
Favorite season cannot be fall.
There's more.
We ran out of pillars.
He can't love fall.
Anyways, so yeah, she's got this pretty exhaustive list of, I guess, things that she's looking for in a partner.
Any further reaction on that?
Well, I mean, I have a list too of what I would like in a guy, but I mean, not that long.
We should do that.
We'll go around the table on that.
We'll come back to that, though.
Any further reaction to her crazy list of demands?
I feel like there's no way that's real.
There's just no way that that's her actual list.
There's just no way.
She has to be kidding.
Yeah, absurd.
There's no way.
Yeah, I don't understand how a person like that can exist and be serious with themselves.
She's delusional.
Totally delusional.
She has a dad or no?
It's a good question.
Any takes from you two on that?
I just don't know how.
I think she's not being serious.
Maybe she's just doing it for like clout.
Clout, yeah.
It could just be television.
Yeah, she just wanted to talk about her like sugar frosting business.
That's why she went on there.
Yeah, she was advertising it.
Devon Jackson with the $10 soup chat entertained me disappeared faster than my dad did when he went to get the milk.
Oh shit.
Okay, shots fired at Entertain Me.
Yeah, dude, he, you know, I'm going to try to dig up the comments that he made, but he did say that in the previous video.
Is he still in the chat?
Have you guys seen him in the chat?
I'm not really.
Oh, I see him.
Okay.
Entertain me.
Damn, bruv.
Okay.
Dave Allen, thank you for the $10 soup chat, man.
So you said you have a list of some requirements.
What are your standards or expectations or lists of things that you want in the guy?
Like, are we talking like physical or like attributes or both?
Both.
Yeah, it could be physical, it could be, yeah.
Physical, I have a type and I've stuck to it.
There's a trend in all the guys that I've been with.
Just big, big, burly men.
That's my type.
But then.
Big burly men.
Yeah.
Like giant.
Giant.
Yeah.
She knows what my exact, yeah.
She likes them big, like tall, like scare, like Hercules.
Like gym, like I go to the gym a lot, like gym guys.
They have to have a neck.
Yeah.
That's fine.
Check it off.
But other than that, just I'm, I'm a very, very good communicator when it comes to my feelings at least.
So I'm looking for a guy who's not immature and doesn't know how to communicate.
Like that was my ex.
He didn't really know how to communicate.
So I'm just looking for a guy who knows how to communicate.
And honestly, as of right now, those are my two main things.
And so you said a tall guy.
How tall are you?
You're 5'3?
2'3.
So what is your height limit?
I don't have a limit, but the thing is, I've only ever been with guys over 6'1.
Only over 6'1.
But that's not my choice.
That's just that.
It just happened.
It just happens that it's not.
Yeah, it happens to be that way.
Okay.
So your green flags are good communicator and built like an absolute tank.
Yeah, pretty much.
Okay.
How many dudes do you see that are built like absolute tanks?
There's barely freaking any.
There's none.
That's why.
Since Zach, when was the last time you saw one?
There's not a lot.
Only him, to be honest.
Shame he's taken.
you're 18 so i mean most no most 18 year olds are tiny Yeah, most men in your age cohort are not going to have been training long enough to reach that level of.
There's a little, there's some, but not a lot.
But yeah.
Samoans.
Yeah.
Okay.
How tall was your last boyfriend?
6'3.
That's 6'3 and up, I think, is 1% of the population.
I think.
Something like.
Yeah.
Or maybe it's 3%.
I'm 6'2, and I think I'm in the top 1% of the world.
No, Chase is actually quite a muscular man.
Can we get a little tricep?
You want to?
Can we?
Can we see it?
Some of that.
Fuck.
Myron.
I'm sorry.
A little bit of that.
Are you content now?
Wait, can you keep?
Are you content, bro?
Yeah, I'm good.
I need a little back massage then.
I got my ice back here.
Okay, so what are your list of definitely need someone to be funny?
I like having humorous conversations.
I would prefer a man taller than me because I am a tall bitch.
How tall are you?
5'10.
Okay.
Yeah.
With shoes.
You said you're 5'10, too?
Yes.
So, with shoes, what about not shoes?
Like 5'9?
It depends on the shoe.
Okay.
And my first boyfriend was shorter than me, so for anyone attacking me on that, I've dived there.
It just personally feel more confident.
Dive down a little bit.
Dive down.
I've felt more confident with a man taller than me.
You feel safer?
Not even that.
It's just like, because, I mean, I'm pretty strong.
Like, I go to the gym too.
How much are you going to give us a tricep?
Oh, no, no, no.
See the tricep.
Sorry.
Do a little flat.
Give me a bicep.
I don't even think I can.
No, it's like not even there.
But it's hard.
But I don't want to be like bulky, so it's okay.
hard um okay i would like yes holy that's um Did you boost the volume on that?
Wait, what's the volume?
Oh, there we go.
Hold on.
Okay.
Go ahead.
I'd like someone to be physically active just because I'm active as well.
So share common interests with that.
As long as you're like goal-oriented.
Yeah.
Let's talk, like, let's add finances to this too, because, I mean, I know you guys are on the younger side, so you're probably not overly concerned about how much money guys makes.
Let's say five years down the line, ten years down the line, when you're looking for a partner, do you have a sense of one, how much you think you're going to make, and is that going to have an impact on how much you want your partner to make?
So I want to be like independently, financially stable.
I don't ever want to have to depend on another being or man, I guess.
And I would expect the same from them.
I don't want them to depend on me, so I wouldn't want someone to be jobless, but I also wouldn't need them to make a shit ton of money because I want to be able to support myself financially too.
So as long as they're making something to like if something were to happen and we were to break up and we're both okay on our own, I think that's more than enough.
I have a question for you.
Yes.
Let's say you find a guy, great guy.
He's officially convinced you not all men are trash.
Okay.
You guys have a very like deep relationship, very trusting relationship, and you trust him a lot.
Like there's no issues there.
And he wants to make you his wife and he also wants you to stay at home, become a mom.
He brings in enough money to provide for both of you guys.
There's no question in your mind about whether or not he's going to leave you or anything like that.
Would that be something that you were open to?
Or would you want to remain financially independent against his wishes?
I think I'd want to remain financially independent.
I also don't think that I want kids in the future, just the way the world's heading, like environmentally.
Don't really know if I want to put a being into that type of thing.
Do you want to stop climate change by having more kids?
One kid at a time.
Just keeping them in.
Wow.
I think she was being facetious.
You're joking, right?
Yeah, I was joking.
You never know an Ala Vista.
What?
You never know an Ala Vista, UCSB chicks, you know.
I mean, I did live here, but I want to.
You don't want to have kids.
No.
Want to stay financially independent.
Yeah.
Roger that.
For me, about my list.
They do have to be taller than me because I am also tall.
And I want them to be an athlete.
They have to, I play sports.
I play four of them myself.
So I'd like my significant other to also be able to play sports.
So like, because for me, I feel like that's also another way of bonding when you guys, in your free time, you could go play a sport.
Or like if he plays something, he could teach you.
And then you could teach him something too.
And then what else?
You have to be funny.
And I think that's funny.
If the guy's not funny, does he just not have a chance?
Has to be funny.
Non-negotiable.
I think it's because.
No, it's okay.
You don't have to justify it.
It's okay.
I know.
I just want to touch on the funny thing.
So we've had two girls so far say that they want a guy who's funny.
Guys at the table, do you care if a girl is funny?
Women aren't funny.
Oh, hot tickets.
Jesus.
Ask my coworkers.
I'm a funny woman.
I like when I have great chemistry with a woman.
Like, I like one of the things that I, like, one of my visions for my marriage is I want to be sitting on my front porch when I'm 80 years old still cracking jokes with my wife.
And like, I have a pretty dry sense of humor at times.
And like, not all women find my jokes funny.
And the ones that do find them really funny.
And I like that.
And I want to have some back and forth.
You know, I like that banter.
I think it's fun.
So she doesn't have to be like hilarious, but like if there's good chemistry there, I want that, you know?
Yeah.
Well, I would say there's a difference between having a sense of humor and being funny.
I think having a sense of humor is being able to recognize humor, whereas to be funny is you are providing the humor.
I think a woman who has a good sense of humor is a good thing.
Is good.
As far as a woman being funny, I could care.
I could care.
I'll say this.
I'm second that.
I don't really care.
Because what Chase, you said, the chemistry and laughing together, I think that's great, but that doesn't mean that she's funny.
Yeah.
I'll say this.
My aunt is one of the funniest people I've ever met in my life, and I love having conversations with her as a result of that.
I would like that in a wife someday.
It's not a deal breaker if she doesn't have it, but I would like that in a wife someday.
They would just have to be able to take my humor.
You know?
Like, I joke around a lot.
Like, my humor is pretty out there, so she just have to be able to take my humor.
That's what it really would be.
Take banter.
Take your humor just like our ancestors did.
Just like our ancestors did.
It's an inside joke.
But so, you know, I don't think I would have a problem.
I wouldn't have an issue if a woman was funny.
But honestly, I've just never encountered a genuinely funny woman.
Okay.
Look, like women comedians are science fiction.
It doesn't exist.
Like, I've heard women say funny things, but like, I've never, I don't think I've ever categorized a woman as like, she is funny.
You know?
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, no, I don't find women funny, personally.
I've never met one that's funny.
Going back on the list.
I just don't even anyway.
Going back on the list.
I mean, she's kind of funny.
Me?
Do you think you're funny?
I think I can be funny sometimes.
I think so sometimes.
But also going back on the list.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's like a sidetracked here.
But also, another thing, like a green flag is when they're good with kids for like the future, you know, if you're planning something more.
And if they're like good with their family, family-oriented.
I can't even say okay, but you know, if they're like good with their family, so it's like a green flag.
Wholesome.
Shalud.
Yeah, I really like somebody that is family-oriented.
Like I said before, I think it's really important because I take family seriously.
I like the competitiveness, just like in kind of like sports.
I played a lot of sports, so I think it's a little bit important for when you have kids that, you know, that they play sports.
I think, you know, taller than me for sure.
Not to be over 5'10.
5'10 and up.
Nothing less.
I just feel like this.
Kids are gonna be small.
That's no.
Penis size?
Penis size?
Is that important to you guys?
Does it matter?
Does size matter?
To an extent.
To an extent, yeah.
That's it, though.
What's the extent?
Like, I don't want a chod, but.
My favorite word.
I haven't heard that word in so mythical chod.
Wider than it is long.
Not Ari's thing.
Not my thing.
Not the chod.
Does size matter to you guys?
You don't want a tunican.
No, thanks.
I think I should be the last person to answer something like this, but I think we can move on.
If it's like small, like if you can't feel it, then if you can't feel it, that's not a good thing.
You want to be able to feel them?
Yeah.
I think that's pretty reasonable.
So I want to ask on the video that we just watched: do any of you know a girl like this?
Maybe a friend or an acquaintance where she's like, yo, your expectations are way too high.
No, no.
You don't know any girls that, maybe not to that extreme, but you're like, okay, lady, relax.
You're not that attractive.
No friends like that?
No.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Okay.
High demands, but she isn't all that herself.
No?
Okay.
I have a question for you guys.
What's something that makes a guy really attractive right off the bat?
Confidence.
Okay.
That's a good one.
I think also just like you were saying, like banter, just being able to be sarcastic with one another.
I think that makes someone more attractive.
Okay.
That and if they have a good smile, I think for me, if they have a good smile, they got me.
Like, that's just honestly pretty adventurous because sometimes I find myself being like, oh, like, you know, sometimes randomly, I want to like drive to Lizard's Mouth randomly at midnight just to like go up there and sit and look at the stars.
Somebody that can just like always kind of be down for like adventurous type of stuff, I think is really fun.
And I think I really like that.
Reasonable.
Totally.
Yeah.
All very common answers, which doesn't make it bad.
Just was curious to hear what you guys had to say.
So I want to ask the guys over here, do you guys think that women have unreasonable expectations compared to guys?
Or just in general?
Sure.
Yeah.
No.
You don't think so, Chase?
No.
I don't think that women have, you know, social standards.
I don't think so.
I don't think they do.
Do you?
I think so.
Not all women, but I think a lot of women have unreasonable expectations and standards.
Okay, I think a lot of them.
It depends.
Like, you know, if she's like, you know, five foot, like, built like a bowling ball and wants some dude that's like way tall and then makes a bunch of money and she does nothing with her life and everything, then like, absolutely not.
Like, no way.
But that goes the same for guys.
Like, there's a lot of just like total incels, you know, that like don't work out, have a really shitty job.
All they do is like, you know, just like play video games and whatever, and they'll expect like a super hot chick and like everything expected to them.
Like even though a woman's like provide for them and everything.
So it goes both ways.
It's like a people thing, not necessarily just like a one way or the other thing, you know?
Yeah, I think both men and women, depending on who can have unreasonable expectations.
Is that a Game of Thrones tattoo on your ankle, by the way?
No, that was just a random mountains.
Oh, it looked like three dragons for some reason.
No, no, it's mountains.
I was just noticing that.
Okay.
I wanted to bring up, have you ever done that calculator?
It's like you put in your preferences.
You know what?
The percentage of men that actually exist on earth that's fit to their needs is always less than 1%.
We have it.
Should we do it?
We can do it.
I've never heard of it.
It's called the I've never even heard of Eric.
It's crazy.
You type in like what you want in a man, and then it tells you what percentage of the population has those traits.
If you go like that.
If most women are 6'1, it diminishes.
Yeah.
Because dudes over 6'1 are already less than 2% of the population.
And then having a good career on top of that and whatever else just decreases and decreases the odds.
And most women want a guy that's over 6 foot who makes a decent amount of money.
There's just not enough dudes to go around.
Eric, if you can just scroll down just a little bit.
By the way, we do not endorse the name.
The male delusion calculator.
Oh.
That's so funny.
Did you tell him to scroll down so we wouldn't read it?
Yeah, we.
Because I didn't see it until you said scroll down.
Too late.
I didn't see it until you said it.
Whatever does not endorse the name of this thing webpage.
But so we're going to start with Emmy first.
So give us your age range.
And by the way, maybe we should do this for like husband material.
Kind of guy you would want to marry.
Yeah.
I'm just thinking, though, because there's like a financial component to this, but you're 18, so like you probably at this point in your life, you don't care.
So do you think we should maybe frame it from?
We should just do husband material.
Okay, sure.
Okay.
Your ideal guy.
How old?
What age range do you want?
What age range?
Like 18 to 25, maybe.
Okay.
And should we exclude married men?
Obviously, because we're talking married people.
Well, I mean, she might not have an issue.
She might not have race.
Any minimum height?
Minimum 510.
Okay.
Exclude obese.
No.
I'm into fat guys.
Wait.
Wait, actually.
Okay.
All right.
Minimum income.
Probably minimum.
60K.
60K.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Go ahead.
All right.
So that's 2% of the population.
But she also had a low age range.
18 to 25.
There's not a lot of dudes with established careers.
That's true.
Yeah, scroll down just a little bit, Eric, just so we can see the cat bags.
Okay, aspiring.
Zach, can you pull that drawer open?
And then.
You should just scoot her chair back.
Yeah, don't touch her.
You got to have him pull out some catnip for Emmy.
What am I looking for?
There should be a cat bag.
Some.
Oh, wait, actually, you know what?
Never mind.
Sorry, I have it over here.
You can close that.
Some questionable things in there.
A lot of things I would like to see.
She's a little bit more.
Okay, Emmy, here you go.
I do have two cats.
All right, that's a meow.
Meow mix for you.
Future cat lady, three out of five.
Okay, we're gonna do a wine-drinking dog mom.
We're gonna do this with Ari now.
It's actually mine's gonna be even longer.
Do scroll down, Eric.
We're gonna do a new search.
Just do it.
Also, when you're doing this, think about the fact that you're probably not looking for this guy right now.
Probably gonna be later on down the line.
He's probably gonna be a little bit older than her suggestion was.
Like, you're probably not looking to get married for at least a few years, right?
Well, no.
See about your perfect partner.
You know?
Like, ideally, someone you could just settle down with.
Yeah.
So, you know, you could make the age range older.
Age range?
Okay.
I'll do 25 to 35.
And you're 22 right now.
Now we're talking.
Like, project in the future.
Sure.
Now we're talking.
So 25.
Exclude married.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Race.
You're not interested in polygamy?
No.
Probably prefer white.
Okay.
Minimum height?
Six foot.
Exclude obese?
Yes.
Minimum income?
60K is good.
Okay.
0.68.
So you get four out of five cat bags.
Okay.
There you go.
Let's go.
Assaul.
We'll do you.
Yay.
All right.
That's so crazy.
Age range.
Less than 1%.
That's good.
25 to 35.
Exclude married.
What does that mean?
Will you date a married married guy?
Okay.
I don't know why they have that.
We're talking in the context of marriage.
Yeah.
Someone you want to marry.
Race.
And then for race, any race.
Okay.
Minimum height?
Six feet exclude obese?
Yeah.
Yes.
Minimum income?
60k is fine.
All right.
You sure?
I think it's 60k.
Well, she picked any race.
Okay.
1.2% of 200% higher chance of finding their prince charming.
Okay.
And then that's so crazy.
Age.
I'm going to do, I'm going to, I'll say 27 to 37.
And yeah, exclude marriage, any race, minimum height, 5'10.
Exclude obese.
Yes.
Minimum income, I'm going to say just because I want somebody almost just as successful as the amount of money I'm going to be making.
So six figures.
100K.
800,000.
100K the lowest.
Okay.
100K.
Making more than that.
Let's go.
What do we got?
0.86% of the population.
Damn, dude.
I think this is off.
That's, I don't know.
There's no, I don't know.
There's no way.
I feel like that.
I don't know.
There's a lot of dudes out there.
There's a lot of dudes.
I heard a statistic yesterday.
The average guy in America is 5'9 inches and 205 pounds.
It's the average man.
That's my type.
Every guy.
I mean, if that's the average, there's not many dudes like we're putting in.
The average woman is 5'3 and 170 pounds.
Oh.
Yeah.
Ripped water.
Man.
We are down bad.
It's over.
It's so over, dude.
This is why tall people need to be having as many sons as possible so that there's more tall dudes to go around for the women.
Can we agree to that?
Yeah, it's not.
Yes.
Sounds like some eugenics type.
Well, dude, it's no comment.
Supply and demand.
Chicks want tall dudes.
There's not enough tall dudes to go around, so there's not enough people procreating.
There you have it.
There you have it.
We're going to react to another video.
It's just going to be the next one there.
Yeah, this one.
Y'all, this is my question.
I am a single mom.
I have a full-time career.
I work very hard, very responsible, but I get the typical blonde, big boobs, tattoos.
That's how guys kind of see me.
And, you know, I have a really huge personality, like really big.
Sometimes it's like, my mom's like, you need a filter, but that's just how I am.
But I guess my main thing is, you know, like, I'm seriously almost done with dating.
It's like four years.
I have not had a date.
I have never had a guy pick me up from my house and take me on a date in my entire life.
Ever.
What's your address?
Anyways, so I want to let the guys answer this one first.
Your guys' reaction to that video.
And I have a take on this, but I can let you guys go first.
I mean, no dude wants an unnecessarily loud and fat woman.
Yeah, she's got a fupa.
No way.
And who was it?
Her mom said she needs to have a filter.
There's a lot of extremely unfiltered women out there that are just popping off at the mouth.
And it's like, all right, I don't need that in my life.
I would say, yeah, she's like, probably won't be the submissive type.
And I guess like with like most guys.
Oh, yeah, sorry.
With most guys, I feel like looking for like a very like feminine, submissive woman, I guess, is pretty popular among guys.
Was that not popular with you?
No, what?
No, it is with me.
I'm just don't want to speak for everyone, but normally with her, I wouldn't pick her up from the house.
Yeah, she's probably like late 30s to like early 40s and like single mom and whatnot.
She was late 40s.
Yeah, maybe.
I was being generous.
Yeah, so it's like, yeah, why would you pick her?
Like, I would not.
Like, no way, but she's expecting some man to just wonder what her standards are.
You know, probably somebody to provide for her and her kids.
Exactly.
Unreasonably high.
I want a woman who brings peace and joy into my life.
That's the kind of woman that would drive you nuts until the day you die.
Peace is huge.
Yeah.
I think that's a big thing for men for sure.
So yeah, I guess my take on it.
She said that she's single mom, works very hard.
So already some issues there.
Single mom's like, she's already busy with work.
She's got a kid.
So in terms of priority list, you're going to be number four, number five, maybe kids, career, dog, whatever.
Also, with single moms, the baby daddy is still involved in the picture, probably.
So there's like that introduces some weirdness into the relationship.
There's a potential risk of reconciliation.
Also, as far as single moms, like men, we don't want to subsidize women's bad decisions.
The big thing is, though, I'm not saying like just totally shitting on single moms.
Like some people, they just really totally got shafted by somebody.
It's like a shy dude and they're in a really horrible situation.
And it's unfortunate for them because some of them might be really, really good people.
They just got totally shit on.
And like that sucks, but just the reality is like the same thing that if a dude's like 5'2 and is fat and isn't going anywhere with his life and whatnot, it's kind of the same reality for him.
It's a shit under the steak.
This is what it is.
Well, here's the thing: if you're a single mom and you're looking for a solid A1 dude, you can't be coming onto the scene with all these demands.
I'm boisterous.
I'm like super overweight.
Never going to give you any peace in your life.
Like you gotta, you know, it's gotta be a good deal for the guy.
Like when my mom met my stepdad, she was a single mom with me.
And she was like a very feminine woman with like great energy.
And like, you know, it was a lot of fun for my dad.
And like, I don't know, very different from like that work.
Very not her.
Yeah, very not her.
Yeah.
One thing I thought was funny about that clip is how she said, never, I think she said, never in her life has she been picked up from her house for a date with a guy, which is just sad, dude.
That's sad.
Who's not picking up women where they live for dates, man?
I don't do that shit.
At least call them an Uber.
I like, I mean, it's not like necessary.
Like, I like to.
I like to pick women up from their house if I'm taking them on a date.
If I'm taking a woman on a date, I'll either call her an Uber or I will ask her if she wants me to pick her up.
Like, do you need a ride there?
It's reasonable.
That's fair.
I don't know.
I don't like picking.
Are we talking about first dates here?
Like, first date?
I'm not going to pick her up.
Oh, what?
Whoa.
I'm not picking up a hot date.
I think I've always picked women up for the first date.
Yeah.
Okay, so let me.
You're trying to meet at the same spot, not picking her up.
Why are you saying because there's like a risk and she might suck and you don't want to put that energy in there?
So there's part of that.
There's part of that.
Like if she's lame, then like, oh, you're kind of her ride.
You can't just dip.
You can't just bail.
Like, if she's not feeling it, you're not feeling it.
But also, like, let me ask you guys a real quick question for the women.
If a guy offered to, if a guy invited you to go to his house, Vito Scaletta said Brian likes them to take the bus.
Hey, take her.
I have had women take the bus.
Oh my god.
Take the bus.
Some guys like to fly women out.
I tell them to take the train.
Okay, I'm a train ticket.
I'll get them a train ticket.
Why not?
I'm a bus pass.
Here's a bus pass.
Here's a bus pass pass.
If they're the town bicycle, they can just ride straight to you.
Horse-drawn carriage.
Okay, but so would you guys be comfortable like first time ever meeting a guy?
I mean, some girls do this, but like maybe you met him on dating app, whatever it may be.
First time meeting him, would you be comfortable just going straight to his place?
No.
No.
Like first time ever?
No.
Maybe some of you have done it.
No.
What about you?
Well, I see like the point that you're making.
I think first states that, yeah, it could be reasonable to not get picked up if you like don't really know them or you haven't really been talking for that long of a time.
Okay.
But eventually, yeah, it's like it's pretty nice to get picked up for a date.
Okay, so I guess my whole thing is like if a woman's uncomfortable going over to your place just straight up like that, then she should also be uncomfortable being picked up in your car at her place.
Like, so, I mean.
Well, so how long have you guys been talking?
Well, it's the first time.
It's kind of a thing.
So it's like, how long have you been?
But for me, it's also just another, it's like another security thing.
Like, I mean, just like how women have standards about how they wouldn't want to maybe necessarily go over to a guy's house for the first time meeting him.
Like, I don't want to go pick up a girl at her place.
Otherwise, I'm going to need a domis firearms training because there might be an ambush.
My man, shout out.
If I'm picking up a chick.
There could be an ambush.
There probably will be an ambush.
There will be an ambush.
There definitely will be an ambush.
He charges very reasonable rates.
Bring a belt-fed machine gun with you.
Yeah, it's going to be an assault.
But no, it's just like, to me, I'd much rather meet a girl at the location than pick her up because that's more comfortable for me, too.
Understandable.
I like to vet chicks.
I don't like asking women out on a date unless I've already vetted them and I know that they don't suck.
I like to have a little bit of chemistry first.
I'm not going to waste my time taking a girl out on a date unless I feel some chemistry, you know?
And if that's the case, I like to pick them up.
That's my thing.
But so, like, what if the date goes bad?
For me, in my instance, if the date goes bad or it's not going well, she's going to be looking to me to drive her home.
I'm okay with that.
If the date's not going good, I just say, I'm done with this, and then I drop her off at home.
Because I've had women, like, torpedo fucking dates, and they're like, are you going to drive me home?
I'm like, here's a bus.
No, I'm not.
You're weird.
I'm not driving you home.
I'm not going to be in a car alone with you and you're being fucking weird.
Nah.
It's a wrap.
Have you had some really bad dates?
Dude, I've had fucking terrible date experiences.
Just bad.
Yeah.
What terrible nights?
What happened?
On the worst date you ever went on?
Why was it a huge drink?
I know, I'm hilarious.
I've just had a lot of bad dates.
I'll just say that.
What was the worst date you've been on?
What happened?
The worst date I've been on.
I've been on a lot.
One chick got mad at me on the date because this was back during the BLM riots.
Okay.
And she was upset that I didn't post a black square.
Oh, such a red flag.
Yeah, take the train home.
And I'm not like, I'm not a, I'm not a political guy on my Instagram.
Like, I don't post overt political shit on my Instagram.
I was like, hey, what happened to George Floyd's terrible?
But I'm not like, I barely post on my personal Instagram.
She's like, you should have posted on your brand page.
I'm like, the fuck?
Shut up.
I'm not posting that shit on my fucking company thing.
So, anyways.
Would it be a red flag to you guys if a guy didn't post a black square?
I think a lot of times the people who like do post a black square just kind of like, oh, yeah, like I support, here's my black square.
And they never talk about it again.
They don't really support it.
Like, I don't think posting a black square shows that you're supporting it.
You kind of just want to put yourself out there.
I agree.
Virtue signal.
How many people who posted the black square do you think solely did it just for the social acceptance aspect of it into virtue signal?
And like under pressure.
And the pressure, yeah, from their I think a good percentage.
Like, what are we talking?
80%, 90%.
Maybe not that high.
I'd say maybe like 30, 40, which I still feel like is a lot given the intensity and like how crucial the movement is, like just to put that there and be like, okay, I'm safe.
Fair.
That was, as far as my bad dates go, that was a pretty tame situation.
I don't know, I've just been tame, just like absolute nuclear meltdown.
Cautionary tale.
Like, I don't think I've ever picked a girl.
Actually, no, I think I have.
Maybe a couple times I've picked a girl out.
Maybe she doesn't have a car.
Even then, I'm like, take the bus, lady.
Take a bus.
Walk.
Bike.
I actually used to have an ex-girlfriend bike over to my anyways.
That's enough.
Nice.
Just a bike.
True gentleman telling women to walk to the date.
I don't know.
It's just like, I don't know.
I can't think of it.
I've had some bad dates, but I can't really think of specifics.
I mean.
No, I can think of one.
Well, she was 30.
But okay, I didn't pick her up, though.
So it wouldn't have been a scenario where I would have been like, oh, I feel uncomfortable having to drop her off because do you just want a general bad date I've been on?
Just the worst date you've been on.
I'm also curious to hear from anybody else.
See if anybody has no idea about that.
Yeah, I had a bad day.
Okay, so me and my friends, I went with two of my friends.
They bought a guy, and then I had a guy.
We're going to the movies.
We're waiting in line.
Wait, your two friends brought one guy?
No, no, they both brought one guy for themselves.
So it's like a triple date, kind of.
Yeah.
So one of my friends, she leaves what to do to go to the car, you know, just them two.
And then there's just me and my other friend.
We're waiting in line to get the tickets.
And this, the guy that I'm with, right when we get to the window, expects me to pay for him.
Like, like, he doesn't even, like, he just like, he just stands.
I'm like, because I had, I was about to pay for myself, because, you know.
And then he just expects me to.
I'm like, I just look at him and he's like, oh, yeah, I forgot my wallet.
And I'm like, okay, that's completely understandable.
And, but he was lying because I'm friends with his friend.
And it was just a complete bull.
If he was just honest, you know, like maybe if he was going to get the snacks or something, I would pay for the tickets.
But he just wanted me to pay for everything.
And I'm like, whoa.
And then after that, I kind of like ignored that.
I'm like, okay, whatever.
I'll do it.
You didn't know it was a lie at that point.
Yeah, I didn't know.
So I just like, I got the tickets.
But then after, when my friend, they were done with the car doing their own business, he was like saying, do you want to go in the car?
Just me and you?
And I'm like, no, absolutely not.
And then he's like, what about the second date?
I'm like, there won't be a second date.
Oh, shit.
Because he just assumed right after that we could just hook up.
I'm like, I'm not into that.
And there was no chemistry or anything.
This guy had no moves.
Nothing.
No moves.
But I gave him a try.
Like, you know, like a second chance.
I'm like, you know what?
Let's see if he could redeem himself.
It just kept going downhill.
Sad.
No moves, no game, no money.
Nothing.
Damn.
Rip.
Any other crazy, terrible date stories?
That was like mildly bad.
I want like nuclear just.
I have a list here.
Hold on, let me see what I'm doing.
I've written these down, dude.
Hold on.
Hmm.
There's the Beasting Betrayal.
That one wasn't terrible.
Habsburg Terra.
Jesus, I don't know.
I know one comes to mind that is just diabolical.
Don't you?
Yeah.
Oh, you have.
No, I'm just guessing for you.
Like, there has to be one that comes to mind first.
This guy has probably a number of diabolicals.
I don't know if I should.
I saw on your screen there it says chick spit gum out in my bathroom.
Oh, yeah.
So I invited this girl.
I have a pool in my house.
So I invited her over to swim.
She comes over.
She's got some gum.
And like as she's, she changed into her bathing suit, whatever, as she's walking down the pathway, she had some gum.
By the way, I have trash cans in the house.
She takes her gum out and just spits it into my yard.
That's so good.
Into the grass.
And I was like, pick it up.
That's so cool.
I was like, yeah, I said, I said, I told her, I was like, hey, pick that up.
Because that's my yard.
I don't want to step in.
And she's like, I'll do it later.
I'm like, no, do it right now.
Otherwise, you're going to forget where it was.
Just do it right now.
Just do it now.
But she didn't want to because I was, I mean, I was saying, hey, that's not acceptable.
And she's like, no, no, no.
I'm like, listen, you need to pick that up right now.
Otherwise, you're fucking leaving.
She was just disrespectful.
I would never go over to someone's house and imagine going over to someone's house, be in their backyard, have some gum and flick it into their yard.
No, I'd be like, hey, is there a trash can?
So what did she was, well, she was very combative about it because I was like, hey, go pick that up.
She's like, no.
I'm like, and I, but I didn't let it go.
I was like, you need to pick that up.
Pick it up, pick it up.
And it was just like gone to an argument.
Did she ever end up picking it up?
Yeah, she did pick it up, but she's all buttered about it.
And I was like, ready?
I was pretty much ready to kick her out.
And then she's like, hey, I'm sorry.
Who raises these women?
What the fuck?
How did the date go after that?
We fucked.
But no, I mean, it was just like...
Did you ever talk to her again?
She...
She apologized, but I was like, did you do that?
It was kind of a red flag.
We hung out a couple more times, but like, she was very combative.
Like, she would just like start arguments and shit.
And so the writing was on the wall from that point on.
This was maybe our second or third time hanging out.
She was just very domineering and combative.
I was expecting you to say that you dated her for two years after that.
No, that was the chick who looked at my phone on the first, looked through my phone on the first day.
Five years, by the way.
Five years.
But hold up, going back to mind, the reason, like, just because he didn't have one, because I'm actually saying.
Okay, the reason, like, it's not because he didn't have like money or games or anything.
At the end, when I said, I'm not interested, he like got super mad.
He called my friend a whore and then called me out.
He called me a whore and he drove away, which was embarrassing because he had to pick up his friend.
That's right next to us.
He stormed out and had to drive back and pick his friend up.
So like, that's just like one like a little tantrum.
Yeah, like a tantrum, and he had to come back.
And I'm like, that's embarrassing.
I like how he called you a whore after you refused.
Yeah, he got mad.
Like, I'm like, okay.
And then how foolish did he feel when he had to drive back to pick his friend?
He wouldn't even look at us.
He was just like, he was just like looking at his steering wheel.
He probably felt so dumb.
His friend was texting him.
And then he called his friend and said, where are you going?
You're my ride.
And we were like dying.
And they all just ended up leaving.
And me and my friends, we hit the movies without them.
That's sad.
That's sad.
Is the fact that he lied about not having his wallet to manipulate you into paying for everything and then had the gall.
Here's the thing: if you want to hook up with a girl on the first date, you want to go past like, you know, second base, past that, you got to hit, you got to hit all the marks.
You can't just miss all of the marks and then expect her to put out for you.
That's ridiculous.
Yeah.
What an idiot.
Just take the L at that point.
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Wow.
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Entertain me.
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I was hoping that you would entertain us, but that's all you got, bro.
Come on, dog.
Thank you for the super chat, though.
I think we have one more video to react to.
Do you guys have any questions for us about dating?
Actually, before the video, we're going to wrap up here in maybe 10, 15 minutes.
Final thought or question?
I just asked if they had any questions.
If you have a final thought, if you have a question for us guys related to dating or just a final thought.
We've asked you guys so many questions about dating.
There must be something you want to hear a guy's perspective on.
What have you always wanted to know?
What is a turnoff for you guys?
Like right on the spot?
If she's rude to wait staff or retail staff.
That's a good one.
That's pretty bad.
She doesn't like babies.
Huge turn off.
Yep.
Doesn't want kids.
Yeah.
I actually, I like it if she doesn't want kids.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't like the whole like strong independent woman angle.
I think like a lot of...
She says that once.
Yeah, like my last girlfriend, she never wanted to have kids and she wanted to be a career woman and all that stuff.
And within a month and a half of us dating, she'd completely changed her mind and she was basically like, I want to have your babies.
But if a chick is like totally staunch on that, for me, that's a deal breaker.
It's not like a red flag as much as it's just like a deal breaker for me personally.
I think like extreme ego and pride, like I've met a lot of like very bitchy women that like think that they're better than everybody.
I do not like that.
I don't like that.
Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna say, like, I do quite a bit.
Like, I usually work 50, 60 hours a week in the military, have my own business and everything, like, and in school part-time.
And, like, some women that I've met and like started dating, they're just, I guess they get, like, intimidated by that.
And they're like, oh, like, I'm not doing all this.
So, like, project something on it.
Because, like, oh, like you're doing more than me.
And I think that's just super weird and total turn off for me.
It's a good question.
It's a good question.
Any other questions?
This is your opportunity.
This is your opportunity.
I would tell you another thing that we touched on earlier is being offended at my humor.
Oh, yeah.
It's not like we can't laugh together and you're just going to bitch and moan about how I'm like unfiltered and shit and just get offended.
It's like, all right.
There's no room for conversation.
I'm always going to be tiptoeing around what language you want me to speak.
It can't be like a social justice warrior type or something.
No, that's offensive or whatever.
How dare you, Zach?
Yeah, exactly.
It's like.
I'm completely with that.
I'm really sarcastic.
Even with friends, if they like, they get offended or something.
I just feel like I have to tiptoe around them.
I hate that shit.
Walking around eggshells in a relationship is probably one of the worst things to feel, I guess, being in one of those relationships is usually really manipulative because you're giving someone the perception that you are some way when you're not that way.
I feel like in a coveted relationship where you care about someone, you want to hear what they really think about.
I guess one of my biggest fears is having someone portray who they want me, who they want me to want in them.
If that makes sense.
Where it's like I'm always begging for just honesty and just communication and everything.
I also feel like in a relationship like that, you can't fully be yourself.
Exactly.
And I think in the best relationships, the other person loves you for who you truly are.
They see you for who you truly are, and that's what they love.
Authenticity is a must.
Yeah.
Oh, sorry, I don't want to cut you off, but another thing is just, it's usually brought because of past relationships.
The guy will judge them or the guy will like want something that the girl doesn't want.
And it's usually the communication aspect of them tiptoeing around like what the dude wants and not like hitting his triggers, I guess.
It's usually, if I'm talking to someone, it would usually be like them not communicating or not giving them, not giving me their true self.
And I just find that really, I guess, in a way, manipulative.
Disingenuous for sure.
Disingenuous, yeah.
Disingenuine would be a big red flag for me.
On your first note about getting bent out of shape over just you saying something, your humor and stuff, I've had two experiences where I've said something in jest and the girl got super bent out out of shape.
And so I'll tell you really quick one of the examples.
It's kind of not worst date ever, but this is 10 years ago too.
So this is kind of even before some of the really politically correct stuff started coming about.
Second time hanging out with a girl, we were at my place.
We hadn't hooked up yet, but it was otherwise going really well.
And I did something kind of silly or something.
I think I dropped a bottle or spilled something or something.
And I'm like, I think I said, yeah, I'm such a retard.
Did she get pissed at that?
She got fucking furious.
It was just the whole date was washed.
And I wasn't saying that about people that were like mentally.
Keep in mind, this is 10 years ago, right?
Yeah.
So this is, I mean, the R word now is much more frowned upon.
But 10 years ago was kind of like, there was a lot more leeway there.
So she was on the she was trailblazing on that one.
But no, so I said retard the whole, torpedoed the whole date.
She got freaked out like over the, me saying, calling myself a retard.
And I was like, I mean, I get it.
It's offensive, right?
But it's like, come on, relax.
And so.
There's other important things to talk about.
Yeah, no, but like it was, it was a wrap when I said that.
Right after that?
Yeah, it was a wrap.
It was done.
No, like point of no return.
And then I dated in more recent history, I dated this girl.
This was probably red flag.
She worked in the HR department of one of these big tech companies in Santa Barbara.
Never, guys, never date.
Never again.
Do not date women in HR because HR is the department that's going to be, oh, you can't say this, you can't do that.
Bro, you think they don't bring that shit into relationships?
Don't date chicks in HR, human resources.
And like, she got so offended.
I said something about, oh, I don't like women with plastic surgery.
She got so fucked.
She didn't even have plastic surgery.
She's like, yeah, just, I told her, I was like, I don't like fake boobs.
Like, I prefer kind of more natural look.
She got so fucking bent out of shape about it.
Even though it doesn't apply to her.
It doesn't even apply to her.
She's so weird.
Guarantee she had like a bad person.
It's just a personal preference, though.
You know, guaranteed.
Bro, it's literally her job to police people's speech.
That's the worst possible profession a woman could be in if you were dating her.
But I really felt like I was walking on eggshells.
And then I, I don't know, I said something else and she's like, well, anyways, it's just.
So someone that's like going to police your speech, I 100% agree with you.
Like, that's just a buzzkill.
Like, that's not fun.
You want to be able to do it.
It's a turnoff.
It's a yeah.
Yeah, as soon as that happens, everything else is awkward after that.
You can't be yourself.
All right, I got a question for you guys.
Let's say a guy's really funny, but he has a very offensive sense of humor.
Is that like a deal breaker for you guys or no?
Like, what do you think?
Like, just like fucked up humor, you know?
Not like overly dark or anything, but just like politically incorrect stuff.
I think to an extent, like today, like with the R word, like I won't get mad, but I'll be like, you shouldn't say that.
Like, same with using gay in an offensive way.
Like, I'm like, you shouldn't say that because it's, I don't know.
It's over for us, sorry.
It's over.
It's so over for us.
We can never do it.
What was your question?
Chase just likes to drop the F bomb.
The other F point, there's a lot of, I say a lot of politically incorrect things.
I'm kidding.
I personally don't care because I also could say foul shit.
So based.
Sellude.
I mean, yeah, I just don't like it.
I'll be like, oh, shouldn't say that, but I'm not going to be like, oh, what the fuck?
Like, pop off or anything.
That's just your personal preference, like how you want.
What about you two?
Oh, I don't give a shit if you do it.
You can talk like all you want.
I'll give you like a little slap on the wrist, but nothing is going to come of it.
Okay.
Politically incorrect humor.
I don't know.
I definitely, there's like certain things that like draw the line.
And I'm like, it's a little.
It kind of makes me question the person if they're saying a lot of terms that they, I don't know, I don't think that are like, should be said when talking about certain things.
Sounds like it's somewhat of a turnoff, but not a deal breaker.
It depends.
I don't really think like, I don't know.
I think it like, if it's like a lot of the time, I think, yeah, it's kind of a deal breaker.
Just because I don't really want to like be showing that I'm with somebody who like says a lot of things like that out a lot.
I don't know.
I don't think that's very attractive.
Would you guys rate your humor as politically correct or politically incorrect?
Very politically incorrect.
I think I've tampered mine down because I think people are so easily offended.
But generally speaking, I would say politically incorrect.
Extremely politically incorrect.
Sorry, guys.
Extremely.
Yeah, behind closed doors, extremely politically incorrect.
Out in public, I can tone it down.
Yeah, that's the thing.
If you're with your girl and you're like in closed doors, you know, people can't hear you guys' banter and like fucked up humor, that's good, but like don't be doing that shit out in public.
Yeah.
because then it just embarrasses like it's like sometimes me and my buddies like yeah we'll say some fucked up shit being in the military you know And then when I come back, I'm like, I cannot say that in public.
I mean, dude, the military is a whole nother thing.
It's a different universe.
I got to check myself.
What?
You said bruh a second ago, Brian.
What?
What were you thinking?
I don't even remember.
I don't even remember.
So final power question.
Did anyone else want to come in?
I know a few of you wanted a moment to think about it.
Last chance.
You have something else?
Like, ask a question?
Yep.
Okay, what do you guys think?
Is your hand okay?
Oh, yeah, it's okay.
It's just like a single fidget thing I do.
Yeah, I've been doing this.
Completely.
But what do you guys think about tattoos?
Like, I've heard different opinions.
The less, the better.
I would say the less, the better as well.
Yeah, do you know how to do it?
I'm not into tattoos.
Yeah, it's a red flag.
Do the girls, you have a tattoo, you have a pretty spine tattoo.
Any tattoos?
I have five.
You have five.
Yeah, they're all right here, though.
So I have this one, this one, this one.
Okay.
See, that's the thing.
Like dainty.
Yeah, that's different.
Like, sometimes women will have these huge tattoos up the middle of their chest across their necks.
The tramp stamp of the 2020s.
Yeah.
The sternum tattoo.
Yeah.
Does anybody here have a sternum tattoo?
Okay, good.
You can see my sternum, but it's not no tattoo there.
And do you have tattoos?
No tattoos.
What do you guys think about tattoos on men?
I like them hot.
They are so hot.
You know, look at this one.
This one's pretty cool.
Why is that?
Why is that?
Why are they so hot?
I think they're hot, except I don't like them on their face.
No, I love it.
Oh, hot.
What love faces are so hot, yeah.
So what is that, though?
Why are they so hot?
I just think it looks so good on them.
Like, just on their body.
Does it kind of give off like a bad boy vibe?
Yeah.
I feel like that's like part of what it is.
Like, this is a guy who doesn't have a bad thing.
I think it feeds into it a little bit.
Yeah, it fits into a little bus.
I think it is pretty attractive.
So like if a guy has like huge sleeves, like that's like big turn on.
Yeah, it depends on what it is.
Yeah, I think it depends what it is because sometimes like if the tattoos is a little just got a massive naked woman down the side of his arm.
Yay or nay.
No.
Nay, nay, nay.
A big hot take for guys is the navel piercing.
What do you guys think about that?
I'm not into it.
The navel, the belly button piercing?
Belly button piercing.
I don't really care that much.
It's kind of, I'm going to think, I'm going to think something about it.
I'm going to raise a bit.
I'm going to raise a bit of an eyebrow.
I don't dislike it, but I'm like.
I've never, like every single guy I've ever talked to, they're like, oh, like your piercing is so hot.
I'm like, okay, thanks.
Yeah, no, it is hot.
I think it's hot, but, you know.
You know.
But as far as tattoos go, I don't mind tattoos so much.
I think it's not a deal breaker.
I do think I prefer no tattoos.
The fewer the better, kind of like what you guys said, but it's pretty low priority list, but I do think if I had to choose, I'd prefer less or no tattoos.
You guys said you want no navel piercings?
No navel piercings.
I'd prefer it not.
Why?
It just looks a little trashy.
Trashy is the word.
You think she, like, to be honest?
What if it's a flower?
Like, what if it's like a little flower thing?
I don't know.
Like, I'm not going to be a fan.
Not my preference.
It wouldn't be like a total deal breaker, but it's not my preference.
It's just, yeah.
I think it's hot, but I do think it also communicates something about the woman.
What?
She's a whore?
That's what I'm getting at.
It says something in so many words.
I feel like it's just a piercing.
I mean, I don't have one, but I do.
But would you guys say like a naked woman on a guy's arm says something about them there a little bit?
I feel like that's totally different ballgame.
Yeah, that's that.
That's a belly button.
It's not a bare point.
It is a different ballgame.
It is a bit different.
I feel like the naked woman down the arm is like the equivalent of like a tramp stamp on a woman's lower back.
Yeah, yeah.
I think if you're trying to make a comparison, like maybe like a guy with like one earring.
Yeah, that's a little bit more.
I personally like jewelry though, so like Joyana Guy I think is cool.
You know what I will tell you is a deal breaker in a huge red flag is a tongue piercing.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Do you have one?
No, I was going to get one, but yeah.
She's like, no, no.
I mean, I'm.
Not right now.
We're like pretty.
You said yeah?
You said yeah.
To me it's a deal breaker.
No way.
Like today, absolutely not.
No.
Pretty conservative guys.
There's probably a lot of.
I mean, see, here's the thing, right?
Is like women who have, I personally just don't want one, but most of the chicks I've met who have them are just like huge whores.
Now, granted, for you, you're saving yourself for marriage, so like it's kind of a different thing.
But like, yeah.
Like, that's just my preference.
I feel like I'm probably, we're probably pretty unique.
I don't know.
What about you, Brian?
Is that for tongue-piercing?
Kind of similar.
It is sort of communicating something about her a little bit.
So she's going to be like my my She could be totally innocent, but I'm going to think she's probably promiscuous.
That's going to be my giving a lot of head.
Yes.
The Glocklock or whatever you called it.
9,000.
9,000.
Yeah, I'm going to make some assumptions there.
I could be wrong, but that's just going to be my knee-jerk reaction is she's promiscuous.
So I don't have so much, like a tongue-piercing.
Actually, Andrea had a tongue-piercing.
You know, Andrea.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know her personally, but I know who she is.
Well, you know who she is.
Yeah, she had a tongue-piercing.
I mean, I don't know if I'd want to introduce a woman who has a tongue-piercing to my parents.
You know?
Yes.
You know, like to hook up, fine.
Like, it's not a deal breaker for me, but like long-term relationship, I don't know.
I mean, probably at least have her take it out when she meets your parents.
That's a good idea, probably.
Can you take them out?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just like hide them out.
Oh, you hiding.
Like, some parents.
Whoa, it's hidden.
And I could take that out too.
Did you just put it up in your nose?
Yeah.
Whoa.
Cool.
Cool.
Any other questions?
Anything else?
You guys are like later 20s, right?
I'm 22.
22.
26.
The chat doesn't believe what I say.
I'm 26.
27.
18.
No.
No, I'm kidding.
33.
33.
Okay, when, I would say, like, when did you start taking like women a little bit more serious on like finding a relationship?
18.
No, like.
When I was 18.
I've never been interested in just casual sex.
And maybe that makes me an outlier, but it's never been interesting to me for me to fuck a girl once.
Yeah.
I don't know if you've heard that Sir Mixalotte song, Baby Got Back.
There's a lyric that goes, some punks like to hit it and quit it.
I'd rather stay and play.
So for me, I'd much rather, if I'm going to sleep with a girl, I want a continuity there.
I'm going to keep seeing her.
So there's definitely been girls, though, that I've hooked up with, and they just want something casual.
They want the one-time thing.
So there have been times where it's only been a one-time thing.
But overwhelmingly, yeah, I want a girl has to severely fuck up for me to not want to see her again after I've slept with her.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah.
But I think that makes me a bit of a maybe a bit of an outlier.
I've always valued continuity in seeing a woman for a few reasons, but I don't have to get into that now.
Yeah, I mean, between the ages of like 14 to 19 years old, I wanted to hook up with like as many hot girls as I possibly could.
And then I had a couple of like amazing relationships where I fell like very deeply in love, had an incredible connection with the girls, and I was like, this is where it's at.
And I also had like one or two one-night stands when I was in college and just really didn't like it.
Like for me, that like pair bonding process of sex, like it happens on a very deep level.
It's very easy for me to fall in love with a girl if I'm having sex with her.
And if I don't like her and I have sex with her, I just feel like disgusting.
Yeah, I just feel disgusting afterwards.
I'm like, why did I just do that?
That was terrible.
So, yeah, when I was 19, and then, yeah, back in 2020, that was when I got serious about marriage.
So, yeah.
What about you, Zach?
And for me, yeah, being at a really young age, I got a pretty serious relationship at around 16.
And I've always been, you know, and that I was in that relationship for five and a half years, you know.
So, kind of being single, like for once as like an adult male, was like really weird.
I definitely had my mind go to other things that aren't important.
But I, you know, I just stuck with like who I was, you know, and how I was raised.
And then I started taking women more seriously the more they've like, I guess, proven myself, proven to myself because that they're at least like worthy of marriage and want like something more with me rather than just you know one night stand.
Because I did work downtown State Street for a little bit as a bouncer, believe it or not.
And like just seeing how like the nightlife is and like how girls carry themselves and like how guys carry themselves, it just kind of turned me off to all of that because I saw like what people were like in the nightlife.
Kind of like their personality comes out.
They kind of get a little bit more, you know.
They don't hold themselves together.
Yeah, they're a little bit more out there and it just wasn't attractive to me.
So I kind of had a more private life after I experienced that.
So I guess I've always taken women seriously, but I guess being a single male for once was definitely a test.
And I hold my own a little bit as best as I could.
And then kind of getting involved with a real woman and seeing the connection that I can have with a real woman definitely made me so extremely glad that I've waited for her.
You know what I mean?
So I guess that's when I, that's my experience personally.
What about you?
What was the question again?
When around, I would say, like, around what age did you start kind of taking serious or women more serious and like finding more serious relationships than just like typical like hooking up?
Like 23 or so, I'd say.
Yeah.
That was my question.
I know me and Tanner have had a lot of talks about like I guess the culture in Santa Barbara that like the way guys carry themselves it kind of just turned us off to being guys like that.
Yeah.
And whether guys you know turn that way like through bad experiences or later in life, you know, that's their experience and like, you know, that's their path.
But I guess we're fortunate to have like each other and guys in our circle that keep us accountable.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So.
Yeah, a lot of the problems that are happening is just because of like weak men, like the whole all men is trash type thing.
Like it's just because there's a super weak men.
Yeah.
Big.
I need to, I got to address something in the chat really quick.
I'm not going to, I don't want to name any names, but guys, you know, we don't moderate chat.
I like to, I don't want to do the whole, I don't want to ban anyone, but some of the comments in the chat are getting a little bit suspect.
So can we, guys, come on.
I don't want to have to moderate the chat, but like some of the stuff is just, it's, you guys are talking about neo-Nazi shit.
You guys are doing like it's, it's gonna, it's not a good look, guys.
So if we can try to tone it down a little bit, I would appreciate it, guys.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah, just to be even more direct, out of respect for Brian's channel, because we don't want to make him look bad.
Please just keep the neo-Nazi symbolism to a minimum.
Thanks, bros.
Okay, didn't even make it awkward there.
Didn't mean to make it awkward there.
Moving on.
You looked like you had another question.
You look like you're itching to ask something.
I don't have anything else.
That's what I'm doing.
You got something.
Yeah, you're thinking of something.
Yeah.
This is like more like for like a girl when you're, I don't know how to say it.
Like when you're getting in bed with a girl, like what is like a turn off?
Like what this like if something she does, like what something she does.
So I'm probably kind of unique in this way, but like I get a little bit turned off.
Not turned off.
This is going to sound fucked up.
It's also a double standard.
I get it.
I don't fully understand my own psychology.
I do get why this comes up.
If a girl will sleep with me on the first date, it makes me lose a bit of respect for her because it's like, if you'll do it for me, that means you either really like me or you'll do that for every guy you go out with.
And if a girl makes me like wait like at least a few dates, you know, again, I'm saving myself for marriage now.
But in the past, if a girl made me wait a few dates, it like massively increased the amount of respect that I had for her.
So that's one thing for me.
Yeah.
Agreed.
I would agree with that, Chase.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tanner, anything?
He said agreed.
Oh, agreed?
So the question is, turn off like when we're starting to become intimate or like, yeah, when like what about them?
Like what kind of what he said, that's what I was like asking for.
Like what do they do?
That's like a turn off.
In the bedroom?
Yeah, specifically like if you're swimming with them.
Or just generally.
And just generally.
Yeah, that's one thing.
One time I took a girl out on a date.
She didn't do the red flag that I was looking for, but I took this girl out on a date and she was like this like famous fashion model and very beautiful.
And I thought she might have like a princess complex, right?
Because like a lot of girls in the fashion world, they think that they're like the center of the universe.
And I intentionally wanted to like not go all out on this girl to see like what kind of person she was and if she was like humble and down to earth or if she thought she was like the center of the universe.
So I took her to a date for a first date to Chipotle.
Okay.
And then I intentionally did not offer to pay for her meal to see how she would respond.
And she was like, I thought she was going to be like, are you fucking serious?
Like you're not going to pay for this.
She was like, okay, yeah, cool.
And she like didn't care at all.
If she had freaked out or been like, you're going to take me to Chipotle, like what?
That would have been like a huge turn off.
But she was like super cool with it.
And yeah.
And I was like, that's a quality woman right there.
Well, Chipotle is good.
It is good.
I mean, it's not like date material.
Like, maybe, you know, down the line, but like, like a lot of guys want to impress a girl on the first date that they take them out on, you know?
So that was, that would have been a turn off for sure.
That's my answer.
Gee, I'm trying to think of something that would be like a turn off in the bed.
Besides spitting gum in your yard.
That's a tough one.
That's a tough one.
Talking about their exes on the first date.
I'm just like, what the fuck's wrong with you?
Like, why are you doing that?
Yeah.
And that's pretty much for any guy.
In my opinion.
That's what I think.
Or for anybody.
Like anyone.
Yeah.
Or if the guy's like, oh, my ex was crazy.
I'm like.
Like, boys bringing it up.
Yeah.
Like, out of nowhere, too.
Yeah.
Like, I'm so glad you're so chill.
My last girl was crazy.
I'm like, yeah.
No one was even saying anything.
I'm like, okay.
I'm just like they're comparing with their ex.
That often means too that they're not over them if they're bringing it up early.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Especially like first time, like dates.
Like interaction with them.
I'm like, okay, cool.
Like, wow, you're going to wait till the second date or the third.
You just blurt that shit out on the first date.
Just cleared.
He was so excited, probably.
Yeah.
If a chick isn't enthusiastic, that's a turn off for me.
Like some girls, like, you can be in bed with them and even the first time, and they're kind of like, I don't know.
On one hand, I also, it's tough because I also don't like women who are like overly aggressive in the bedroom.
That's a turnoff for me if they're overly aggressive.
But I do like a woman who's enthusiastic.
Like, I never want to, if a girl doesn't want to enthusiastically sleep with me, I don't want to sleep with her.
Like, so if I have to, like, convince a girl, like, if there has to be a long-winded conversation, like, I'm just not.
Like, I'm going to shoot my shot.
I'm going to go for it.
If she's like, no, I'm just, I'm probably done for the night.
Like, that's a wrap.
If you want to play this coy, if you play this koi game of, no, no, no, like, and you want me to pursue, like, I'm not doing that shit.
So, one, no, I'm done.
I'm going to get up.
I'm probably going to, I'm not, I won't even keep making out with a girl.
Like, I'm done.
I'm just turned off.
Because then I'm going to get turned on and it's just, it's a wrap.
Yeah, so it's just like, I'll say too, like, I've gone on dates with girls that were like bad at making conversation, like, couldn't hold an interesting conversation.
That's just like the most boring thing in the world to me.
I'll just take them home.
That's why I think like dinner dates are not the best idea.
Like, I think if you guys go like to the beach or like go swimming, I don't know.
Go do something like that.
Like, they got to be in a group setting to see how he or she acts around her face.
Yeah, because like sometimes like that, yeah, because sometimes dinner dates just one-on-one make somebody like shut down and get nervous or like they hide themselves.
They don't show their like true like colors.
So you just have to see how they treat you around their friends.
And yeah.
Yeah, I think it's a good idea to like have something to go do, ideally that's fun for like the first couple dates.
Like I've enjoyed like taking girls on like hikes or like to like a unique beach spot.
Like because then you're doing something and you're having an experience together.
And that's like, you know.
I think like personally one of my favorites is like mini golfing like for a first date because like kind of competitive.
You guys also have something else to focus on and like it's easier to make conversation.
You can make jokes about it.
It's like it's also a light-hearted environment because like for the first time meeting someone, if someone was like, oh like do you want to go on a hike and I haven't met them before?
I'd be like, what the fuck?
Like I'd just be scared.
So I feel like.
Just going to hike to a super remote area.
You don't know me.
Wait, but where's the sound?
There's not even mini golf in Santa Barbara.
I've done one in like the bay and then I've also done I think it's golf and stuff in like Ventura.
Except that's fucking extra.
I'm not doing that.
I taught a girl how to surf on a first date once and that was that was awesome.
That's a good date but a dad is extra.
Extra in the sense of it's a lot of work.
Well she also wanted to learn how to surf and that was I've I've taught I've taught girls how to surf but man it's it's a lot of work.
Yeah, it's a lot of work.
You gotta like him.
It's gotta be worth it.
She's gotta be a baddie to teach them how to surf.
I always try to take people to the beach.
It's my one favorite spot because I know a lot of people hate the water, hate the sand, and that's a no.
That's a deal breaker for me right away.
If you don't like swimming, no.
That was a deal breaker one time I would say this one guy that I was talking to like my first year here in Santa Barbara.
He told me he didn't like the beach because he didn't like how the sand felt on his feet.
I was like, such a red flag.
Wait, okay, is it like a deal breaker if a girl like won't go in the water?
Like she only wants to sit on the towel like the whole time?
Yeah, like going in the ocean.
Yeah, the ocean here is honestly pretty warm because I'm from like Northern California where the water is like below freezing and like I don't think the water here is that cold.
It gets pretty freaking cold.
Yeah, but I mean like Northern California water, like you have to like wear the socks and everything else.
Like it's like spree.
I mean that's like freezing, but like February here, you go in, it like hurts your face to be in the water.
Yeah.
But majority of the time here, the water isn't really that cold.
Like back in San Diego, I did night swimming a lot too.
Are you from there?
Yeah.
Okay.
Which part?
Towards Del Mar, kinda.
Which part?
Did you go to Torre Pines?
No, I went to Mount Carmel.
Okay.
I went to Del Norte.
You went to Del Norte?
Yeah.
Yeah, that was like pretty close to me.
But like, just like if a guy just doesn't want to, like, I'm not going to lay down in the sun and get like a heat stroke, just like laying.
It's not fun.
You have to want to do something, like, go into water, swim.
I don't know.
I just lay there.
Yeah.
Yeah, I want a girl that can like keep up with me.
You know, like I like to go in the water, go surfing, go hikes, go running, like, go on adventures.
And like, I've had, I've had girlfriends where like if it like got too cold, they were like, start throwing a fit or like wouldn't want to go in the ocean, throw a fit.
And it's like, ah, like, let's go do stuff together, you know?
Emmy, anything?
Did you want to come in on anything?
there's someone in the chat saying they want to hear from you um about the i'm the i'm the i'm the who lays on the towel I don't know how to swim, so I'm on the beach.
I'm on the sand.
I'm not in the water.
You don't know how to swim?
No.
Did you say I'm the bitch on the towel?
Yeah.
I'm that bitch.
Yeah, I am that bitch.
Okay.
So I want to open up to Chase.
I know you had some questions you wanted to ask.
I mean, I had one question I wanted to ask, and you shot that shit down, bro.
But if you're open to it, I am down to ask.
You remember what it was?
It is your final thought or question, so go for it.
Out of curiosity, would anybody on the panel be interested in dating a trans person?
Is that a deal breaker?
Are you interested only in biological men?
I'm just going to say I wouldn't date a trans person just because I am like attracted to like manly men and I feel like, well, I don't want to, oh, I don't want to get like shit on.
It's okay.
You're fine.
I would say that probably 99% of people at least feel the same way.
Yeah.
No, I think so, too.
I just, I don't know.
That's scary to say.
It shouldn't be.
It's a weird world we live in.
I think I agree.
I think as long as someone's upfront about who they are and like allow me to decide, I don't want to be blindsided later on because I think sexual identity is already a difficult thing for a lot of people and like it can confuse someone, I think, at a young age.
Like if you're like, oh, like I'm attracted to this person, they do not really say they are type of thing.
So I'd probably say no.
I wouldn't either.
Like it's not like I'm hating or anything.
Like I respect them as who they want to be, but I just personally wouldn't can't, like wouldn't be comfortable with it.
Yeah.
I don't think that I would either.
Like totally up to you to decide what you want to, you know, with your own body and your own preference, but I don't think that I would be with somebody that was.
Cool.
No.
No.
No, I wouldn't.
No.
Same, no, absolutely not.
I would not.
Know why are you looking at me that way?
I'm saying also because like I'm like 100% straight.
Like maybe the answer would maybe like those answers could be different with somebody maybe who is by.
I'm not sure, but I'm very straight, so just mildly straight.
Very straight.
Your gears look turning off, so what's on your mind?
No, nothing's turning.
No.
Nothing, no.
Okay, moving on.
Yeah, thanks for the answers.
That was what I expected to hear from everybody, but I was just curious to hear how people would put it.
Good times.
We're going to do one more video.
One more video.
We're going to do, do we?
The who pays.
I mean, we've kind of...
Wait, I thought there was...
Scroll back up, Eric.
I thought I added four.
Wait, hold on.
Did I?
I know me too.
I don't know.
Maybe we should wrap up.
Do you guys want thoughts?
I want it.
Chat.
Closing thoughts.
One more video?
One or two more video?
Honestly, I haven't heard Kiki say anything.
Kiki's been silent.
I think she's shy, like Brian said.
No!
That's Kiki, by the way.
Okay.
So, I'm trying to think, what was my last thing here that I wanted to discuss?
I don't know.
All I know, the only thing that comes up for me, I want to say respect to you as a Christian for saving yourself for your husband.
Wait, but that's final thought.
What?
What's the hangup, bro?
Oh, just offering final thoughts.
She said she wants to save herself from her.
She's had sex.
Yeah, but after, yeah.
So have I, but I'm saving myself from my wife.
Okay, I see, I see.
And then to you, I hope that you find a guy who changes your mind on men and just you have a really healthy relationship with.
Thank you.
For all you guys in general, too.
What'd you say?
For all you guys in general, too.
Yeah, you know.
Obviously, I want all of you guys to find the men that you're looking for.
I hope Emmy finds a Zach facsimile.
Yeah, that is similar.
We need to find a straight-up tank for Emmy.
Who do we know?
Do we know anyone, Chase?
I know a few dudes that are tanks.
Are you on the prowl?
Most of them have girlfriends.
And he's like, yes, I want my tank.
I want my M1 Abrams.
Set me up.
Hit my line.
And I hope you find your seven-foot giant.
I never said that.
You didn't have to say it.
We knew.
By the way, last chance, guys, if you have any last-minute questions, get your super chats.
And then we do have.
Do you have any questions for us?
like any other anything else did we do the we did body we done I mean, I could ask questions all night.
Yeah, same here.
We do have one here, $5 Super Chat that just came in.
We'll do it just because why not?
What do women think about their boyfriend not wanting them to go to clubs with their friends?
So would you guys have an issue if your boyfriend said, hey, don't go to the bars, don't go to the clubs.
I don't want you to go to bars and clubs or parties.
Yeah, that's controlling.
Red flag.
Yeah.
Red flag.
I would let them.
If you have trust in them, then you shouldn't be worried about them going to a club.
No, no, no.
He has an issue with you going to the club.
Yes.
Yeah, that's a red flag.
Jordan, that is your name, right?
Yeah.
Okay, I finally got it.
I've gotten it correct three hours later.
Yeah, I feel like if there's no trust there, then that is like a red flag.
You should be able to go out with your friends at least every once in a while.
Not saying like every weekend I need to go out with the girls to go to like a bar or the club or whatever.
How often do you guys go out?
Would you say every weekend?
Thursday through Sunday.
Really?
Yeah.
Every week?
Yeah.
Wait, hold on.
I got it.
I'm looking for that tank.
I'm totally looking every night.
So you were in a two-year relationship that ended a month ago.
Yeah.
Were you going out Sunday through, or sorry, Thursday through Sunday when you were with your boyfriend?
I was going out with, well, he broke up with me technically two days after I got here, after I moved here.
Bro, she was hanging out with her coworker Thursday through Sunday.
Well, what about back home?
Back home, I only went out with him.
I didn't go out with anyone else.
Okay.
Well, besides my coworker.
Yeah, so how often do you guys go out?
Wait, you and your coworker would like go out together?
No, not one-on-one.
Okay.
But like in a group.
Is he a tank?
A little smaller than my ex, but he was, I don't know.
Jesus.
Still somewhat of a tank, though?
A little.
All right.
She was eyeballing.
She was monkey branching.
For sure.
I was a monkey branch.
Swinging on over to the next guy.
I can see what happened.
In a different world, would you date your coworker?
Under different circumstances.
Yeah, we actually, we talked about that.
Yeah.
There it is.
Rep. And thus ends a two-year relationship.
Okay.
So all of y'all would have an issue with your guy saying, hey, I don't want you to go bars and clubs anymore.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Guys over here at the table, would you have an issue with your girl, serious girlfriend, going to bars and clubs, parties regularly?
Absolutely.
Yeah, I would not be dating a woman that was constantly going out to bars and clubs.
I don't go out regularly, though.
I think there's a big difference between regularly and just like sometimes every special occasion.
Maybe like a celebration.
Special occasion, different.
That's fair.
I think that's okay.
Regularly throwing on tiny dresses and going out to clubs.
What about once a week?
Yeah, no.
Yeah.
But, like, there's definitely girls that they still want to do that shit, but they got a boyfriend on the regular, like, weekly.
Well, is she, like, purpose?
Well, yeah, I guess that's.
Especially if they're young, like in college.
Yeah.
And it's also weird if it's like not an invite thing, because I feel like at this stage, it's like if people are going out and stuff, like why do you have to go out separately?
Like, why don't you go together?
It's a red flag if you're going out by yourself without your significant other.
I'll give my take on this.
So I don't drink much.
I don't really party.
I don't go to bars.
I don't go to clubs.
So just on that metric alone, I don't want to date a woman that also does that stuff because it's just like a mismatch in terms of commonality.
But the other thing is, is it's just different for men and women going out.
Absolutely.
It's a different experience.
So I would have a major, I'll hook up with a girl that's going to bars and clubs, but the moment she says, I want something serious, one, it might not even get to that point if she's like going out to bars and clubs and stuff, partying regularly.
So if a girl says to me, Brian, I want to be monogamous with you.
I'm going to say, okay, you can't go to the bars and clubs anymore.
That's my condition for you getting my commitment.
You want me as your boyfriend, here are my terms.
So because for me, it's an issue.
Is it an issue because you're concerned that she's looking for other attention or that she's going to get other attention even if she isn't looking for it?
What's the issue there?
What's the red flag?
It's a couple things.
So she could be totally loyal and have no, she could have no intention of hooking up with some other dude while she's at the bar or club.
But the fact of the matter is, when you introduce alcohol into situations, you introduce her single friends.
Single friends are like pretty much the fucking worst thing for a relationship, by the way.
For each other.
You know, you just had an argument.
There's another hot guy.
Like, it's just a recipe for infidelity.
So I don't want to date a woman that puts our relationship at risk.
And going to bars, clubs, and parties, in my view, puts your relationship at risk.
So.
I would agree with that.
By the way, I just want to add, it's not about me controlling the girl.
you can do whatever you want we're just not gonna we're not gonna be in a relationship anymore Yeah, and I think a lot of guys will just stay silent, not be okay with it.
And it's kind of like a check in the box for her.
It's like, oh, she likes going out with her friends.
And then I'll just kind of swallow sadness.
Yeah, I guess a lot of guys do that now.
They don't communicate with their girlfriends.
And also, with my experiences downtown, everyone's single in there.
It doesn't matter.
And I've seen just terrible shit guys will do to girls when they're just alone with their friends or they'll get approached.
It's a recipe for disaster for a girl in a committed relationship.
I would say it's a huge red flag.
And probably in a committed relationship, it's not okay with me.
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure you guys have heard stories of people cheating.
Like, it's more often than not.
I mean, there's alcohol involved.
It happens.
Oh, it was an accident.
It was a mistake.
Alcohol's involved.
You're in a party environment.
So it's just, if you're doing that, you're putting your, I think you're putting your relationship at risk.
So also, it's just different between men and women.
As men, if we go to a bar or nightclub, we're going to stand there the whole night alone.
If we go out alone, for example, as a girl, if you go to a bar or club alone or a party, dudes are going to be talking to you.
Dudes are going to be coming up, hitting you up, trying to buy you drinks, whatever it may be.
As a guy, you can just go to a party.
You can talk to nobody the entire night.
Ain't nobody coming to talk to you.
So it's kind of a different thing.
Men and women, we flirt in different ways.
Women, the way you guys get men is by showing up.
Men, we have to proactively go out and approach, like we have to go out and do the approach or whatever.
So yeah.
Girls, you can come in on this.
No, that makes sense.
Like, I think I would be upset if like my significant other was like, no, you can't go out, but I also don't go out regularly.
So I'd be like, okay, well, like, the one time I do want to go out to like celebrate or like go and dance with my friends, like, you're going to tell me no, what the fuck.
But I think like it's different if they're going out regularly.
Like, I wouldn't want my partner to do that either.
So I understand that.
If he says, I can't go out, then he can't fucking go out either.
That's how I feel about it.
I never go out.
Like with my ex.
I agree with that.
Yeah, yeah.
She's like, you can't go out, but he goes out partying all the time.
It's like, yo, what's up?
Yeah, that was like, that's weird.
Like, my ex drapy and didn't invite me.
And then the one time I went out with one of my friends, he was pissed and did not talk to me for the whole night.
That's ridiculous.
Yeah.
I would say it is still, even though I don't go out, I think it's still different between men and women.
Do you guys all go out?
You said you don't go out that often.
Not very often, no.
I started to when I came here, but like I do stay in sometimes because I just get drained.
But like, but I go with my girl right here, so okay.
What about you, Jordan?
Do you go out?
It's either Saturday or Thursday.
Depends how much schoolwork and work, actual work that I'm doing.
But like you go out somewhat regularly?
Somewhat.
Okay.
Yeah.
Are you guys going out to bars, clubs, parties?
Where are you guys going out?
I'm either drinking at my house because I like making mixed drinks.
I like making my friends drink.
Do you drink alone?
No, I don't.
We're talking about going out.
But going out, it's State Street, yeah.
So the clubs and stuff.
Where do you go out?
So it depends.
Like back in San Diego, maybe like once a week or something, we would go to a club.
But since I came here, we just go to like the parties that are like down in DP.
But that's about it.
Yeah.
Okay.
If I go out, it's usually clubs.
Okay.
What about you, Emmy?
Just parties.
Okay.
When you guys go out, how often do you guys get hit on by guys?
Is it like every time, 50% of the time?
I never, but she does all the fucking time.
You never get hit on?
No, I don't.
I don't.
Well, also, like, well, I don't know.
Or is it just not by the tanks that you want to?
No, by no one.
By no one.
Okay.
You don't get hit on.
No.
You know what, though?
I think times are changing.
Like, men are scared to go up to women.
Yeah.
There is that.
There is that.
It's like men are also with dating apps.
Like, they don't have to.
Like, in the past, like, if you wanted a girl and you didn't have a girl, you had to do it in person.
But now with social media and dating apps, so like men can, a lot of men can get by just doing the app thing.
It fucking sucks on the apps, but they can still get women that way.
So.
Metal and Bones said he doesn't believe you, Emmy.
He believes that you get hit on when you go out.
I maybe I'm just too drunk, but I don't.
I don't.
Okay.
How often do you get hit on when you go out?
Pretty frequently.
Okay.
Like 70% of the time, every time.
A couple times a night.
I would say like at least every time.
Okay.
Almost at least every time.
My roommates are there just like recording too.
Okay.
I'd say pretty frequently.
Almost every time I go out.
It's funny because when as guys, when we go out, it's like not very common for us to get hit on by a girl.
Unless like, you know, you go out and there's like some thirsty girl and she's like throwing herself at you.
It's like pretty rare, wouldn't you guys say?
Decently.
Super rare.
Super rare.
I'm 33.
I've been hit on like out and about maybe twice.
Two times.
You guys have probably been.
That's how much times you guys have been hit on in a night.
But you also never go out.
When I was younger, I went out a little bit.
Even then, though, I was not a huge fan of it.
And I was never a big drinker ever.
But yeah, I mean, but even just like girls sliding into my DMs, like even that, like girls really aren't initiating like that.
How often do guys slide into your guys' DMs?
Oh, a shit ton.
Like what's that?
How often?
Like a shit ton.
Like once a day and you guys?
No, like multiple times a day.
How many followers do you have?
Dude, you only have like three photos on your Instagram.
Yeah.
How many followers do you have?
Only 1,400.
Okay.
And you're every day?
Yeah.
It's because I'm on Tinder, that's why.
Oh, and you have your Instagram on multiple times a day.
Are you connected to Tinder too?
Are these just like followers you already have?
Like mix of both, but multiple times a day, and we'll see from like TikTok too.
So do you have a big TikTok following?
I have like a decent what's your TikTok?
How many TikToks?
Shout out.
Let's get you some followers.
How many TikTok followers do you have?
I have 36K.
Me too?
Yeah.
OMG.
What do you guys twins?
Damn, that's impressive.
That is impressive.
For me, I can be funny sometimes.
Are you doing the dances?
No, I'm so bad at dancing.
Yeah, I can do the dances.
Like, I did like cheer, but I just can't do TikTok dances.
I look like I'm just tall.
I just look weird, just throwing my limbs around.
But I just like post relatable content or like just, I could be fun.
I had a bigger following, but then I like couldn't decide on like what content I wanted, because I started off with like finding like super cool spots like in my hometown that like no one knew about, and then it kind of went to changing to, okay, forget the tick tock.
How often are dudes sliding into gloves?
That's what I wanted to say.
That's right.
It's been such a long day.
Um, I would say it's only like I would say it's pretty rare, just because I don't know I don't really post that much and it's only people I really know doesn't happen on tick tock that often.
I I stopped really posting on there either.
I've kind of I like don't really like go on social media as much these days.
Well, that'll do it.
Question for you guys, though, do you like when girls are forward, like if they slide in gms or like?
I know, like i've had friends who've like written their name and number on a receipt and like given it to like their waiter or like the guy working in the cast register?
Do you find that attractive when a girl is forward, or are you guys like turned off by it?
Zach, do you want to start off?
I would say that's attractive.
Okay yeah, I definitely say that's attractive.
For sure, it's not that it's necessarily attractive to me.
Like I wouldn't be more attracted to a girl if she did that, thank you, I wouldn't be more attracted to a girl if she did that, but like, that is a huge green flag for like, a successful relationship, because the the best relationships i've had were ones where the girl made a move on me first.
Um, I don't know why that is, but it's just like a pattern i've noticed.
So it's not like it's more attractive, but when it happens and i'm interested in the girl, it's like yo, we're probably gonna do really well, you know what I mean.
Okay yeah, I like it when women uh, initiate like that.
I think, as far as it being I don't know if it's so much like it's not, I don't think it makes a girl more attractive, but like, do I genuinely super appreciate it?
100 100, um.
I also think women should shoot their shots more often.
Oh for sure yeah, they don't sadly yeah rare, it's rare what, what's it?
I don't shoot my shot, I don't know.
Yeah, we can ask them.
I'm like, have you guys, have you guys ever approached a guy or like slid into a dude's DM?
Wait.
Go ahead, actually.
Like, I like just with, I've done it once.
And were you successful?
I was, but it's 100% success rate.
Success rate.
Very impressive.
So I've done it once and it was successful, but it's just like I don't know why.
I like it when a guy does it too, because I don't know.
It's much.
Yeah, I'd say women prefer being initiated upon.
You want to feel desired and pursued?
Yes.
Yeah.
It's pretty traditional.
I think men are starved for feeling wanted by their partner.
It's a big thing.
Like, how often men are not complimented.
They're not approached.
They're not hit on.
They're not made to feel even sexually desired a lot of the time.
So I think if you, I would say to women, if you do, whether it's just initiating, you know, you're approaching him or even on the sexual front, like I think guys will really remember that.
Like if you hit on a guy, be it in person or something, he will probably remember that shit for the rest of his life.
You probably can't even remember half the dudes who have tried to hit on you, you know?
So it'll make like a really big impact on a guy, I think.
So yeah.
Yeah, I'll say to you on that note, like one of my first girlfriends was very good at like expressing her desire for me.
It felt so good.
It made the relationship so good.
And I think that's a lot of things that women are like reluctant to do for any number of reasons.
Sometimes it's because they just don't have a tremendous amount of desire for the guy.
But like if a woman does have a lot of desire for the guy, like you should totally, you guys should totally act on that.
Because he's right.
Like a lot of guys don't, even like, you know, really good-looking guys, like we don't often feel as desired as we are when we're in relationships.
And it feels very good to receive that.
So.
Facts.
Yeah.
So, Emmy, like, what was the time that you hit on a guy?
If ever.
Ever?
I shoot my shot by looking at them.
You look at them.
And I hope that they come up to me.
All right.
It's classic all women.
He's staring at me.
Okay, you see your ideal tank of a man.
You're just going to look.
You're not going to go up to him.
You're going to make an exception, right?
If it's, yeah, I would.
What would you do?
Okay, do it to Zach.
How would you, how would you, sorry, I don't have to put you on the spot like that.
Why not?
Zach's so ready.
I feel like if I saw my ideal type, I would see them in the gym.
So I would go up to them.
Oh, shit.
You'd approach in the gym.
Yeah.
Okay, that takes me.
I would go up to them and just be like, oh, hey, what are you hitting today?
Can I work in with you?
What are you hitting today?
And he responds and he goes, you.
What do you say?
I will take him with me.
She's like, okay.
You'll fuck right there on the lifting piece.
On the bench, yeah.
Since you put it that way, if I saw like a dude that's like my person that I want, I would approach them.
Like, you know, if like somebody like you desires something.
What do you say?
Okay.
What's your demo?
Let's see what do you say.
Quick.
He's walking.
Quick.
I just go up to him.
And I just start to make a small conversation.
Maybe if I like their outfit, I'll say something about their clothes.
Or if their haircut is cute.
I don't know.
There's just like something about them.
That's solid.
Oh, that'll stick with a man, too.
You call him his haircut.
Yeah, like a haircut.
I know they like that.
Boom.
Yeah.
She's got game.
She's got game.
Let's do a last-minute video.
Do we want to do a video?
It's getting late.
What is the video?
It's like, I don't think it's going to be that.
Skip it.
I don't think it's going to be.
Well, maybe for another time.
We're running late here.
Okay, so I think that's it.
We're all caught up on super chats.
I'm going to wrap up here.
Last chance.
Any closing thoughts?
Anything?
Any closing questions?
Cool.
I'm all right.
We got that for right now.
I'm straight Gucci.
Gucci Gucci.
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