Viva & Barnes - Live with Elijah Schaffer - Sued for $5 Million by Alexis Wilkins - Legit or Lawfare?

Nov. 12, 2025 - Viva & Barnes

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Live with Elijah Schaffer - Sued for $5 Million by Alexis Wilkins - Legit or Lawfare?

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	Ladies and gentlemen, in a week of black pills, I'm going to play you a video that is going to make you think that I am trying to give you the black pill suppository of Donald Trump on H-1B visas.
	Let the debates begin anew.
	There's never going to be a country like what we have right now.
	Republicans have to talk about it.
	And does that mean the H-1B visa thing will not be a big priority for your administration?
	because if you want to raise wages for American workers, you can't flood the country with tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of foreign workers.
	I agree, but you also do have to bring in talent.
	We have plenty of talented people.
	No, you don't.
	No, you don't.
	We don't have talented people in there.
	No, you don't have certain talents and people have to learn.
	You can't take people off an unemployment, like an unemployment line and say, I'm going to put you into a factory.
	We're going to make missiles.
	How did we ever do it before?
	Well, let me know.
	When you and I were.
	I'll give you an example.
	In Georgia, they raided because they wanted illegal immigrants.
	They had people from South Korea that made batteries all their lives.
	You know, making batteries are very complicated.
	It's not an easy thing and very dangerous.
	A lot of explosions, a lot of problems.
	They had like five or six hundred people, early stages to make batteries and to teach people how to do it.
	Well, they wanted them to get out of the country.
	You're going to need that, Laura.
	I mean, I know you and I disagree on this.
	You can't just say a country's coming in, going to invest $10 billion to build a plant and going to take people off an unemployment line who haven't worked in five years and they're going to start making missiles.
	It doesn't work that way.
	I'll put that on pause.
	And before I shock everyone with the following, I shaved.
	Hold on.
	Can I get my count?
	Everyone, I apologize.
	It'll grow back.
	I realize it really enhances certain features on my face by removing the hair.
	One of which is my nose.
	The other is these wrinkles right here.
	These here.
	And as for the rest, I needed some exfoliation and I needed some sun.
	Good afternoon, everybody.
	We're going to come back to that clip in a bit.
	I left it open in the backdrop.
	But first, we're going to have a discussion with Elijah Wood.
	I hear myself.
	I hear an echo.
	Okay, Elijah, come on in.
	Come on.
	And that's the segue.
	I was going to introduce him.
	We'll see if we can see if we can get rid of the echo.
	Uh-oh.
	Where did he go?
	I see something.
	Oh, I'm here.
	Do we have an echo right now?
	Let me see.
	Mike check one, two.
	Now we're good.
	Okay.
	I didn't know.
	So first of all, shout out to all of your supporters out here.
	I got to say, you as a lawyer going out, taking the time to read this insane case of which I describe as your wife getting mad at you for cheating on her in her dreams.
	That's the legal equivalent here.
	But for you to come out and stake your reputation, I just want to start by saying a huge thank you for having me on.
	We're going to have a great show.
	And if you guys don't know who I am, just know this isn't my first rodeo with the FBI or their proxies.
	Well, and I've been on your show a few times.
	I mean, like, we know each other.
	It's not because like people say, well, how can you defend Elijah?
	And we'll get into it because you are.
	Look, we can all be assholes on social media.
	And you could be called one of the bigger ones.
	But it's like, you know, the same thing with that guy, Sam Parker, who I don't know from a homework.
	It's not because I like someone that I'm going to defend them.
	And it's not because I don't like them that I'm going to throw them under the bus.
	I read that lawsuit.
	I'm like, I was just a little nervous as to my own assessments until other lawyers, you know, Ricada, Barnes, and others, I think, and Rondaza tend to agree with me.
	I hear the echo a little bit now.
	I'm going to take myself off for one second while you do your rant, and I'm going to get on some better headphones.
	Okay, fine.
	Awesome.
	Yeah, so we'll, well, you know what?
	Now, we'll say, okay, first of all, before we even get into it, how goes the battle?
	That's Elijah Schaefer.
	You know him from Rift TV.
	You've known him from other things.
	We'll get back to that in a second.
	If you're new to the channel, let me just see if we haven't gotten the raid yet.
	Trump's burning down his own house.
	Let's start with that, actually.
	First of all, welcome to the channel, Viva Fry, David Fry.
	You all know me.
	All right.
	People say like you only criticize the people you dislike.
	And if you like someone, you have to support them at all costs, even when they're burning their own house down.
	That's not how it works.
	And if you want someone to succeed, you adopt not that Trump is my child, but you adopt a loving perspective, which is constructive criticism so they don't hurt themselves or so they know how their base is feeling.
	That's what we're going to get to with Trump.
	Okay, Elijah.
	What was I going to say about you?
	That lawsuit.
	First of all, just tell everybody who you are because I think this is the first time you've been on my channel.
	Yeah, I do.
	I think this is the first time.
	And I think that I'm probably somebody who you know my work, but you may not know me.
	And that means if that's the case, you probably like you'll like me.
	But if you've heard of me, you've probably heard horrible things and you probably already hate me.
	And a lot of times you might end up liking me by the end of the show, maybe, but you also end up hating me more, which I don't mind either.
	Free country.
	And I get paid for hate clicks too.
	So it's all cool.
	It's all it all feeds my children.
	No, but funny enough, I am a host of a show called The Rift.
	It's my first debut back into American markets after a few years.
	When I had previous trouble with the FBI back from January 6th, you know, I could kind of span the whole career.
	The footage you've seen of Kyle Rittenhouse and those shootings, a lot of that was my footage.
	And I was instrumental in the defense of Kyle Rittenhouse, not only getting him out of jail initially, working with his legal team on the entire court case.
	And I'm just saying what relates to you guys, by the way, to the sort of law tube.
	So I was used as a key evidentiary member of his legal team and also just helped him out.
	You know, he just stayed at my house and just, you know, he signed my AR-15.
	I don't know if he should have done that, but you know, some cool stuff.
	And then I also am the guy who started January 6th, starting where Ray Epps, you know, they broke the barriers and they started the riot.
	And famously, I cooperated with the FBI very, very briefly to let them know that I knew the guy who started the riot.
	I knew what was happening.
	And then instead of taking the footage that I offered them or asking me to deposition in sort of us, begin a lawsuit or a investigation of any kind, they launched an espionage investigation into me in a domestic terrorist investigation, which led to the Patriot Act being used to obtain my back door to my iCloud, my family being stalked, harassed, no knocked warrants, you know, devices of my mutuals being confiscated and raided.
	And here I am now, been involved in both impeachment hearings as well.
	And I'm just happy to be here because it looks like, once again, you know, I know you don't curse a lot in here, but I have to say it.
	Go ahead.
	All right.
	I'll say the bullshit never stops, Viva.
	And so I guess that's why I'm back because I was gone to Australia for a few years sorting out legal issues with the FBI then as well.
	And then I had to leave.
	I got banned from Australia.
	We could talk about that later.
	I got banned from Australia for also governmental reasons, which I'm fighting in the high queen's court there too.
	So I'm not exactly the most law-abiding citizen when it comes to following corrupt governments, but I am a patriot and I've been here.
	My family's been here for hundreds of years.
	And you know what?
	If you're an American, I don't care what you've heard about me.
	If you're white, if you're black, if you're Jewish, if you're Christian, I don't care.
	You're here in this country.
	I hate the government more than I hate Indians taking up space in Costco.
	So, you know, if you're an American, I'm going to help fight for you.
	I'm going to show you my love and we can worry about our little cultural differences later.
	And that's why people hate me because I'm pretty outspoken about divisive topics like cultures.
	Elijah, how old are you?
	32 years old.
	Home apples.
	Born and raised where?
	Born and raised in Los Angeles, California, in the heart of the city.
	From LA, which is why I sound, which is why, by the way, I think I've mentioned this.
	Back when I got my first job in the conservative establishment, people say, How did you do a YouTube for two weeks and land a job at Blaze?
	I kid you not.
	They thought I was a gay Jew.
	And that's why they, that's why they liked me.
	They thought I was, and they were like, dude, there's a gay Jew.
	He'll make it so well in the conservative media.
	This is not even a joke.
	The talent agent who reached out was like, he just said, like, we just like one time, like, a month later, he's like, I'm just so glad we found like a based gay Jew to like represent us.
	And I just went, oh, who was that?
	It's like, you.
	I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, it's me.
	So the atrazine, the atrazine, man, I might be kind of like a man in the way that I work, but when you talk to me, you would think I snorted some helium gas from a party balloon or something.
	So I can't, I can't change that, unfortunately.
	And I actually never knew that.
	You're 32 years young, man.
	You are something of a baby.
	How did you get just the first of what do your parents do?
	My mom decays.
	So she's dead.
	She's inactive, decaying, which is sorry.
	That was really dark.
	But I struggle with that.
	How did she die, if I can ask?
	Yeah, yeah.
	So she died from an aggressive chemo-resistant cancer about a week or two after George Floyd died from a fentanyl overdose.
	And yeah, so by the way, so the only reason why I kind of, I'm kind of well known for, I covered extremism as a journalist for the Blaze for a year during the BLM riots.
	Pretty instrumental in, as Harvard University said, my work was so effective during the BLM riots that it actually created the desire for copycat.
	So they actually, like if you read Harvard's review of what happened in 2020, it says the actual University of Harvard, they like have an entire like four pages about me that my work is what inspired more people to commit the crimes.
	It wasn't their fault, by the way.
	It wasn't the leftism, it wasn't the communism.
	It was my journalism.
	And I'm pretty happy to have exposed that.
	And just so people know, I kind of got put on the map in 2020 when the first night that the riot started, I filmed somebody get murdered.
	And Donald Trump, you know, this was the night that the violence broke out.
	I happened to be one of the only journalists that covered the violence and the burning down of buildings.
	And Donald Trump shouted me out by name and said, if it wasn't for the work of Elijah Schaefer last night, a journalist of the Blaze, we wouldn't have known what the hell was going on.
	So since then, I've sort of had both the left and the establishment that hates Trump sort of at my door physically sometimes too, trying to get me to shut up.
	And they've been very effective, Eva.
	They've really ruined a lot of things in my life.
	I've lost collectively over a million subscribers on my past YouTube channel they took from me.
	I have used to be a very big YouTuber.
	You have like 30,000 live viewers a night on YouTube.
	They took my main YouTube channel.
	I've had a lot most of my social media either taken at one point and had to restart.
	I'm on my third YouTube channel now that I just restarted.
	And I'm happy to keep fighting the good fight of faith, man, because never got deleted for violating terms of service, by the way.
	So never violated, never going to strike.
	And here we are.
	So when did you start all this?
	You started this in the summer of love 2020?
	No, I started in the summer of retarded people, which was the beginning of Trump's term.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, I honestly like, you know, I used to have bleached blonde hair.
	I used to have more hair in general.
	You just, dude, it just starts thinning out and stuff.
	You got the nice locks.
	I got 14, 14 years on you, but it will eventually go.
	So I'm going to enjoy it while I've got it.
	That's what I was going to say, man.
	Like, I, you know, I had long blonde hair, you know, septum piercing.
	You know, I've still the scars, big plugs.
	My whole body is, you know, tattooed like from all the way down.
	Everything's just kind of kind of this guy in LA, confused and drinking atrazine water.
	But I noticed that between me and my friends, I would take a shower in the morning, look down, I would notice something between my legs, and I never questioned that piece of my body, why it was there or what that meant to me.
	I just kind of accepted that I was a man and everyone around me was kind of like turning gay or queer or bisexual.
	And this is like sort of at the cusp of the LGBTQ movement was sort of budding out of Los Angeles, like 2014, 2015.
	Then I used to be a genetic engineer.
	So I went to university, grad school, whatever.
	I was working as a, doing surgeries on animals, studying epigenetics and like limb regeneration.
	So I was a research biologist and ended up getting discriminated for my views for voting for Trump.
	And essentially got blacklisted from the research and development field in Los Angeles because of my views.
	Went and taught high school as a biology teacher.
	In the meantime, got ostracized there as well for my views.
	So I just decided that, hey, look, if you all want to be queer, transgender weirdos, you know, it's a free country.
	If you all want to be, you know, Chicanos and brown pride, but I got really targeted for being white as a minority in that area.
	And I was really demonized for several years, as a lot of white men know.
	So I really learned the fight.
	So people think I'm just like racist.
	And I kind of am racist, you know, like realistically speaking.
	I'm not really beat around the bush.
	I'd say like overtly and provocatively so, at least in, at least in words and demeanor.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Like I am racist, but not in terms of like admissible in court.
	In terms of, I just noticed differences.
	And I noticed that, like, let's just be completely honest here.
	There's a big difference between Palestinians and Jews, right?
	There's something different there.
	And it's not just like, you know, the societies they build are very different.
	And, you know, if you look at the conflicts in the world, the United States is very different since we became multicultural.
	Whether that's good or bad, I'll leave that up to you guys.
	But I think I sort of became that way, not because out of protection for myself.
	And I realized that there was a whole system in place that was trying to undermine white people in this country.
	So I don't really come at it from this like skinhead sort of white supremacist, like neo-Nazi perspective of like, yeah, black people are horrible.
	Cause it's like, you know, it's pretty reductionist, not really accurate.
	And, you know, you could, you could make, you know, we don't need to go anywhere down.
	We're not talking about this, but, you know, that's not really where I'm at.
	I'm also not pagan and like, you know, we're going to be Hellenistic, you know, superior, superior race.
	I'm more like, look, we did build a pretty damn good country.
	White people did.
	And a lot of people want to take that birthright from me and my kids.
	And they want to claim that it belongs to whoever wants it.
	And because of that, it is fundamentally rapidly changing our country that even the non-white people who live in this country, this is why it's, and I'm not like reductionist racist like that.
	It's like even the people that are not white, whether they're Jewish, whether they're a lot of Latinos as well, are realizing that we're starting to get a very low tier of individuals coming into our country.
	We're getting a lot of, you know, Indians that don't share our, you know, that kind of have a similar, they think they're better than us and they don't integrate.
	And you're seeing this sort of, I've noticed like against the H-1Bs, like that clip against, you know, you had Christy Noam today on Fox talking about, you know, we were naturalizing more citizens than ever.
	And you got Daily Wire, which is not a racist publication, which is not racially charged.
	You got them saying like, dude, we don't really need more citizens.
	We don't need, we don't need anybody.
	We got to figure out what we're doing here.
	And I kind of had a thought today, and I'll end this.
	The reason why I do what I do is because like we don't know who we are as a nation, yet the way we profess ourselves to the world is the world's police, which requires two things.
	Requires people to fight in a military and then people to choose the right wars to wage.
	But if we don't know who we are, then we don't know where we want to go.
	And we won't be, we'll be choosing wars that are benefiting our country.
	But secondly, people are not going to want to die to fight for this country.
	So we're going to end up in a, you know, basically a military run society where it's just a separate military industrial complex while society at home crumbles.
	And that's sort of my ending there: I don't hate anyone for the color of their skin.
	I don't hate anybody based upon immutable characteristics.
	But I do realize that America was, and until very recently, a European heritage nation built on European values and philosophy by Christians.
	And now we were told that we'd bring all these people in, that it would make the country better.
	But now we have a FBI agent who's running our executive enforcement, talking about Valhalla, swearing in on a demonic Bagra Vita book and simping for his girlfriend online and letting her use his legal team to go after private citizens because he's, you know, tweeted out himself.
	He's mad, people are making fun of his girl.
	Our country's losing its identity.
	And I'm afraid that everybody notices black or white, brown or or any shade in between, that whatever it is we're doing in immigration, in social construct changes, in identity changes in our country, it is a lie of what they sold us, of what it would result in.
	And what we're seeing here is, unless you're like you are myself, and we have the privilege and the luxury, I hate using that word, I'm not a leftist, but we live in a very nice cities, you know, we live in very nice areas, we are able to afford nice homes.
	We are not the normal American, you know, and the normal American that's at a normal working income is dying inside and they're not happy and they're really in they're in pain.
	And I'm going to fight for them.
	And so, yeah, so I'm not just fighting for white Americans.
	I think I'll just say, like, let's say I'm going to fight for all Americans whose families have been here before 2005.
	Sort of, you know, that's what we'll do.
	Then you won't fight for me, Elijah.
	It's a funny thing.
	You're Canadian.
	Canadian's okay.
	You could be.
	Dude, I'm not.
	Canadians might be the biggest threat.
	I say, like, tongue in cheek.
	You know, it's an issue.
	Look, I know your content.
	I know your statements.
	And I do think, I personally just think it's not just you.
	And it might be a question of audience capture or audience influence.
	I think people are, some people are race-obsessed, religion-obsessed.
	And I can't blame them when you observe certain patterns in politics, patterns in social issues.
	And I always try to make the distinction or appreciate what is the distinction between statistics and racism.
	And my bottom line is you can notice statistical overrepresentations and then how that applies to demographics, but it becomes racism where every individual of a specific demographic is therefore presumptively guilty of the statistics of that demographic, whether it's Jews in politics or crime on the streets.
	And I'd say, arguably, I think it's even admittedly, it's sort of your angle in content and it's gotten you the reputation or the following or both that you've gotten.
	And I think you're unapologetic for it, but this is why people say, Viva, why do you have that racist on?
	It's like, first of all, even if I disagree with someone, I think these are fun discussions.
	And I also think it's, you know, you can defend yourself and people will listen and say he's a dirty racist with no basis, what he's saying.
	Or I appreciate what he's saying right now.
	Because what it sounds like you're saying is it's more cultural than racial, but there are certain statistics among cultures.
	And when you're going to open your borders or at least have a country that's open to immigration, you've got to make sure that you're socially, culturally, ideologically, potentially religiously compatible before you not dilute, but rather inundate a country with people who are not.
	And we're seeing something like that pop up in Canada.
	Yeah, well, like, and yes, so it's actually more magnified in Canada and in Australia.
	I'm watching Australia.
	I'm so sad about what's happening.
	People do say that, Viva, but I'll tell you, I want to tell you as a friend of yours, two things that I want to say that we're kind of at the cusp here.
	My supporters are like not just white people.
	That's what I was going to say.
	Like, maybe I'm racially conscious.
	I'd say like racist is just, I'm saying, in terms of the left.
	Like, are you racist?
	I don't, I don't try to skirt around.
	It's like, yeah, I am.
	And I think everybody is.
	I don't think, though, as I'm starting to learn about my faith and stuff that, like you said, having racial, you know, expectations for every person who looks a certain way, assuming they are therefore bad, you know, based on something they can't change is bad.
	Just like I'm not into fomenting hate against the Jews, right?
	And I even have to catch myself sometimes and delete tweets because I'll notice I'll say something, you know, that is like, that is like maybe coming across like I'm writing off an entire group.
	But you know what?
	I'll still attack anyone, even a Jewish person with stereotypes intentionally.
	I called Will Chamberlain a New York city tunnel rat faced coin clipper.
	So oh, so that's how you make sure to be unemployable for the rest of your life in the best way.
	It's like, yeah, sir, is it Eliza?
	First of all, I didn't even know Will Chamberlain, Will Chamberlain was, was, I think he's half Jewish.
	I didn't know that until I was, we had an interview.
	You know, I don't, look, some of us have more stereotypes.
	He's a fine guy.
	He just he just hates me because he's a Zionist.
	He's a fine guy.
	Well, and I, and I don't have a problem with him, but I'll publicly disagree with him in terms of the legitimacy of this lawsuit against you, where people are saying, yeah, you're an anti-Semite and you're a racist, so you deserve lawfare.
	I'm like, did you learn nothing from Alex Jones and what they said about him?
	And now that there seems to be a lot of lefties on the right saying, if I hate the guy enough, I'll tolerate lawfare against him.
	But I didn't know that Will Chamberlain is, I think, half Jewish.
	And that's a, what did you call it?
	But I find that very a New York City tunnel rat faced coin clipper.
	Cause he's a, he's got.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It was a very targeted thing because he's, because he's got his daddy's money, right?
	So he's, he's a trust fund baby per se, right?
	I gotta start saying allegedly now because everyone's gonna sue me for every statement I make.
	But it's an old term for a person who illegally shaved or clipped small amounts of precious metals from the edges of coins.
	This is that.
	He's a greedy guy is what I'm saying.
	If you notice, what he's really concerned about is how I fund my company.
	He's really concerned about people's bank accounts and their money.
	And it's a stereotypical thing.
	You know, it's got this rich Jewish guy and all he cares about is where are you making your money and how are you making money?
	And it's like, dude, why don't you just mind your own business?
	And I could say, it reminds me a little bit of people.
	When people ask you, like, how exactly do you fund your whole life?
	I'm not a government official.
	You're not entitled to no transparency about my whole life.
	Just like you'ren't entitled transparency to my whole medical history.
	I'll tell you up front, I'm not receiving money from a foreign country and I'm not politely.
	But I mean, how I make my money is how I make it.
	It's so the accusations are only to delegitimize.
	And I just listened to Laura Southern's that full hour and a half video that you call.
	It's well, first of all, it's intense from a Canadian perspective and it's insightful from an introspection perspective, like in terms of what the social media political landscape is.
	But then people are saying, you're featured on RT.
	RT ran an article.
	They say, oh, is there any more evidence you need that he's Russian funded?
	First of all, you get your money from places, people.
	Would you rather be like Canadian government funded?
	Is that that would make you more legitimate?
	And that you get money from any sore and foreign entity, whether or not it's like I have Russian members of our locals community.
	It's not where you get your money from.
	It could influence what you say.
	And in that sense, maybe it's relevant to angle somebody, but it doesn't change the value of their ideas.
	And if the only way you can discredit them is by saying Russian-funded prop without even addressing the ideas, well, congrats, you've discredited without even addressing.
	But you, so, well, I'm not even going to get into it, but Rift is the network that you set up now.
	It's a, what do I want to call it?
	It's really the first.
	So, so this is actually what it is.
	And this actually ties into the lawsuit.
	So, here's we're going to set the stage for why I believe I'm pulled into this lawsuit.
	You know, you suggested she was a honeypot.
	That is the most defamatory thing you can.
	A, it means she's attractive.
	And B, it means you think she's sufficiently attractive to get.
	It's so, it's so, I think it's crazy because I think the accusation itself is it would be a compliment.
	It's a compliment.
	It's actually, so I didn't even mean it that way, but I was going to say to the people that did say it, I would take like if people said your wife is an Israeli honeypot, I'd be like, damn, it means that I scored so above my league that people think that she's being paid to be with me.
	That's a compliment, you know?
	And any guy that's like, you know, you got cash leading the FBI being like, my schnookum, schnookums is out there getting meanie weenie words from the big bad wasis.
	It's like, hey, buddy, buddy, put the curry in the bag, you know, like just move on, Cash.
	You shouldn't be commenting about your girlfriend and mean comments.
	You're the FBI director.
	Have some class.
	Go do another 40% effort pull-up.
	Go kip on the straight bar.
	You saw that video?
	Yeah, well, actually, but I'll interrupt you here only to highlight something interesting.
	Now, people are going to say racist.
	You brought Curry into this because he's Indian.
	And context, it's an interesting thing about context.
	If you were a stand-up comedian on stage, nobody would say that that's racist.
	They would say that that's maybe edgy comedy or maybe they've even called it cliched comedy.
	And it's context.
	It's context in that people are going to say you look at someone and you automatically and immediately reduce them to their immutable traits, religion, whatever.
	Or you're going to say it's, and I don't say it as a defense.
	I just say that I know the rationale.
	It's edgy humor for the sake of edgy humor.
	If it were a stand-up comedian, everyone would tolerate it.
	But because it's in politics, everybody comes holier than now.
	And this is just my method of delivery.
	The question is, however, when do you get over it?
	Like, because, okay, he's Indian.
	And then the question is, do you attribute each and every fault in his performance to the fact that he's Indian?
	And if you do, that's racism.
	Okay, but you know what?
	So this is okay.
	By the way, not just with you.
	I'm going to tell us to anyone who watches this.
	I'd love to have more conversations like this where people say that I have a negative quality.
	It's that I'm racist.
	Like, why can't we even just talk about that?
	Like, we don't have to talk about racism.
	It's like, well, what is what is that quality and what's wrong with it?
	Because I could learn.
	Like, maybe there, maybe there is a way I could sharpen it to where it's not, you know, sinful or it's not degrading and it's actually helpful.
	And one of the ways you brought up was comedy.
	So I'll kind of connect that.
	I actually consider my entire public persona to be a dark form of comedy.
	And I'm very public about that.
	My entire career, my show, it was always confused people because it was always meant to be a funny show.
	But like, unlike Crowder, who writes sketches and tries to be funny, I'm more like life is the joke.
	And, you know, we're going to just go ahead and like have a good time with it.
	Like, I mean, like, Dave Rubin came on my show back at Blaze and he said nothing controversial.
	And I kicked him off my show.
	And it was, I was completely faking it and acted like I was really offended and asked him to like to get off because he had like just rented wombs from babies.
	So instead of like getting mad at him for renting wombs and like kidnapping children in my religious form, that's what I believe that is.
	Obviously, legally it's not.
	I went ahead and made the whole anger about something that was like completely irrelevant and was no reason.
	And everyone's like, what the hell was that?
	And to me, that's like very, very deep level dark humor where it's like, everyone's waiting for me to call them about something serious.
	But I made it, I just basically, and it was, it went viral.
	I was like, dude, there's a big fallout.
	And no one, the articles would be like, no one could understand what it was about.
	And the whole thing was like, he's in the news right now about like having surrogate babies and controversial has a big blow up.
	Everyone's like trying to connect the two.
	And meanwhile, it's like over the fact that he put a pen down on the table.
	So, and I just don't like when people put pens on my table.
	So I kind of keep the approach of like, I don't want anyone to really know that I'm joking.
	I don't want anyone to know that this is a joke, but this is kind of crazy.
	The entire reason why I got into media itself is I looked at all the shows and I realized, because I have a history in production being from Los Angeles, that's kind of the one that used to be what we all did out there.
	Everybody's show is bad.
	And I remember I brought that up to my friend.
	He's like, so, so why don't you make a good show?
	Go, no, if everyone can make bad shows and be famous, I can make a bad show and do it too.
	So my goal was I came out, I called my show the best worst show on the internet.
	I was like, of all the bad shows, I'm going to make it the best of the worst.
	And I'm just going to just be myself and be authentic.
	And the whole point of the whole point of why I've done this is I never want to give up being completely transparent about who I am, completely open about why I think the way I think.
	And I never want to let money conflict with me sharing with the world how I see it.
	And like you said, it's like, well, if you're not taking money from Russia, you're taking money from Zionists.
	And then, you know, that's the whole debate here.
	You know, it's like people are taking money with special interests.
	And so they don't talk about things or they avoid things.
	I don't, I think being, I think comedy is lost in our society.
	And now people take everything that's funny or opinions they don't like as offense, right?
	They're always offended by it.
	I'm not offended.
	I just think, well, first of all, it's sort of like Lisa Lampinelli's roasts.
	Once upon a time, it was all just cliched, race-based, gender-based.
	She would make the same types of jokes on stage.
	Even she got tired of it and sort of rebranded into something that nobody believes.
	Some people are just going to say it's old as cliched.
	And at some point, it gets tired.
	And the question is whether or not you develop an audience that this is, this is the question to you, the ultimate one.
	There is something of a self-fulfilling prophecy, a self-building crowd where they like it.
	The ones who come to you like that.
	And so it makes you do it even more.
	Right or wrong, be damned.
	You can find the rationale to do it.
	And then that just becomes its own sort of silo.
	It just becomes more and more not extreme in the sense that everybody uses the word, but style defining.
	And it becomes style and not substance.
	Yeah.
	But to bring people up to the point, all this is kind of irrelevant.
	The point is, is there are big fucking problems going on in the world right now.
	And I think people are afraid to really talk about how we deal with them because they're afraid of losing their money.
	And they also realize that those solutions are pretty extreme.
	And I want to make sure that I stay at the forefront of honesty in a time when it can cost us the most.
	That's basically been my greatest strength is like, I've been myself, but I've been willing to pay the cost.
	So people know I've been arrested from the DHS to, you know, investigations of the FBI.
	I've been arrested by Secret Service twice.
	You know, I've had things confiscated, taken, you know, everything, every bit of my life combed through and released publicly.
	And I've had, you know, false accusations even too.
	I've gone through Me Too accusations.
	I've gone through court cases of discrimination and sexism and things that I've won.
	Right.
	So every single court case I've been in, every single accusation that I've been in legally that has either taken me out from a job or ruined me, I've actually won, right?
	So at the same time, I'm not just like having fun and like, whatever, like, yeah, I have fun on the internet, but I also take this seriously.
	Like if I'm joking and I'm having, and I, and I'm, and I'm saying something funny about, oh, women are like this, men are like this.
	And then you take it seriously and you're like, yeah, Elijah hates women.
	I don't hate women, right?
	So I'm not going to let you say that to people.
	Like if you don't get the context, podcasting was supposed to be fun.
	It was supposed to be enjoyable.
	Supposed to be this idea?
	We could like sort of just express who we are and and talk uh, you know, without the FCC telling us what we could or couldn't say, without the the every four to six minute commercial breaks, and really get to the bottom of where we disagree, where we agree, and come together as a country.
	And podcasting, I think, has been the savior of, I think independent media has been the savior of the country I I, I think I see now that a lot of people are blaming algorithms or blaming uh, you know, social media companies for the way that the, the currently the country, young people are changing their minds.
	But I think what's happening now is that people are realizing that, you know, I think people have kind of always thought the same way, but now people are realizing their voice does matter right, you can go on, even if you're a nobody onto x, and you can post a tweet and you can get in front of millions of people.
	We never had that power before, you know, and so like, even for this lawsuit that we'll talk about, you know, I think we're at 7.2 million views on the response video.
	I mean, you know, that's better numbers than I would get going on uh, you know, prime time FOX NEWS to do a response.
	I don't think there's any cable news network that could get me that many views to get my legal response out.
	We've taken back control and to kind of like this is all like boring history for people.
	So I want to switch off that, to say like the only question is whether or not we get into the.
	I know I did, I.
	Well, the discussion on there was a segment of the internet that was against gay men using surrogate mothers.
	I don't know if I want to get into that now.
	We'll see if we'll put it.
	We'll put that on the back burner.
	Uh, maybe get to it later because um, for whatever the reason okay, but bottom line, I saw someone in the chat say very uh, immature of you to go after a man's girlfriend.
	Um, I didn't go after anyone's girlfriend well, but I just highlight something, she, she's a country singer, political commentator.
	She's not.
	She's.
	Reducing her to Cash's girlfriend is is unfair to her.
	She's a political commentator.
	People are saying that she's, you know, potentially the next speaker for a turning point.
	She's.
	Very charismatic, very smart, as far as I know, very nice i'm.
	I'm questioning who's behind these lawsuits because I think they're ill, ill-guided.
	To begin with, I know she's not just Cash's girlfriend, she's a a country singer political, political commentator, public figure who also happens to be, if you're into the superficiality, extremely attractive and now dating Kash Patel.
	And then people have questions as to what the hell is going on with the FBI and drawing their own I think ill-founded connections.
	Get into the lawsuit, Elijah, What okay?
	So so yeah, okay so.
	She is super cute and I think that's why, if you're just joining the stream, the whole funny part about this is, a she's accusing people of calling her a honeypot b.
	The funny part is is that if people are saying that that's a real compliment, you're literally saying, girl, you're a hot chick like like, that's what you're saying.
	And then Cash getting offended.
	Cash, there's nothing wrong with guys being told we're ugly, you know.
	Like that's a compliment as a guy he's not.
	People say you're punching up, that's a good.
	People say you punch above your body weight that's, that's a.
	That's a compliment to a guy.
	We call him our better half.
	Like, that's a.
	That's a socially acceptable thing to say to a man like bro she's, how'd you get that?
	Like she's better looking at.
	People often say to me.
	When they see my wife they say, viva you you, you.
	What did they say?
	You leveled up or you scored up by the just has every she, his girlfriend.
	Looks very much like Maria from Harold And Kumar who was uh, i'll show you Of Cash's girlfriend afterwards.
	This is Maria from Halden Kumar, Go to White Castle.
	She was in the sequel as well.
	I like that movie.
	But yes, people say you're punching up, and it is, in fact, flattery.
	Yeah, but I'm saying, but I'm also punching up because I want to say, we'll start here: is people don't know, like, okay, you have like Nick Fuentes.
	His last name's Fuentes.
	He's like, you know, he's probably an incel and stuff like that.
	He's got a very, he's very more popular than I am.
	You got Candace Owens.
	She's more popular than I am.
	And you got Tucker Carlson.
	Now, I kind of have a lot of their same, you know, similar views on certain things.
	I'm a little, maybe a little, I have a father of two kids.
	I'm married for like a decade, maybe a little more like, you know, balanced, maybe as like a, like a grown man than maybe Fuentes, where I'm not maybe going to, you know, talk about beheading women and stuff like that or joke about that stuff.
	But like with Candace, you know, I may have her views, but I'm also not going to get so emotional and vindictive and petty because I'm not a woman.
	And then with Tucker, I'm also not like, I didn't grow up wealthy.
	So I'm not going to have this detachment.
	I grew up poor, right?
	So like, like, so I realized, but I'm also like six foot, almost six foot three.
	I'm a white guy.
	I've history here.
	From the very beginning, when Mark Levin tried to destroy me at Blaze and some of the people came together and got me kicked out of that company for arbitrary reasons, in my personal opinion, that they started to ruin my career.
	There has been a concerted effort and they've been successful at it, Viva.
	And I'm admitting this.
	There was a concerted effort to get me out of the industry.
	I mean, and I've been in court trials.
	That's what they were saying.
	Like, we got to just get this guy out now.
	Like, this is dangerous, basically.
	The same people that are complaining now about Tucker Candice and Fuentes were in 2022.
	I found out that the leaks to Media and right-wing watch about all these things I was saying were my own staff at Blaze TV that were leaking because one of the guys' wife was the main editor of one of these websites.
	So the Blaze had, you know, leakers inside the company that were trying to smear me.
	I don't know if they were involved.
	I'm not claiming they were involved in that, but there's been a concerted effort to delegitimize me and go after my character because what I was, they could never call me a liar.
	And I want to clarify that to your audience.
	People call me a lot of things, but they do not call me a liar.
	And if they do call me a liar, they never say it was substantiated evidence.
	They'll never say like, yeah, he's really dishonest about Indians.
	Really?
	I mean, it is a petty thing to be to say the things I do, but what happened was they thought I went away.
	I started working in Australian media and Australian politics.
	I came back here.
	Now I founded this company.
	And, you know, James Lindsay calls it the Woke Right Youth Recruiting Recruitment Network.
	You know, we got Sarah Stock.
	We got Brayden Sorbo, Kevin Sorber, Hercules son.
	We're getting young people.
	Like, you know, we're going to be working with like Amy Dangerfield, who just left PBD podcast.
	She's popular and young.
	We got Joel Webbin, who's one of the more popular Christian nationalist leaders.
	And we're creating a brand, right?
	A network that has one quality.
	We are not against Israel.
	You don't have to be against Israel to be here, but we have refused to take Zionist-linked money from we just believe it's the number one corrupt way to ruin your message as a company.
	So that's that's so that's important.
	And I, and I, and I told my friends, I said, listen, within the next year, we started this in January.
	I said, we are going to get slapped with something that is going to try to ruin our company because my enemies are, and I'm going to explain to you why this is, I do not believe this is about a girlfriend.
	I don't believe she suggested the lawsuit.
	I don't think she came up with it.
	I don't think it's her, her resources, and I have the evidence to prove it.
	I think this is a much more nefarious, targeted plan here with quite a few of us.
	I believe that this is a, they saw me as a target because my lawsuit doesn't make sense.
	So why did they do it?
	They, they, they, the establishment really wants me quiet.
	They've, they've tried everything.
	They've tried sexual accusations.
	They've tried relationship and cheating and stuff accusations.
	They've tried racism, xenophobia.
	I mean, they used to release articles how I was transphobic, anti-gay.
	You know, now, of course, while they're talking about this is that I'm poor, Russia connections, Qatar connections.
	Like they've gone after everything to smear me.
	And that makes me think that what is it that I'm bringing to the table?
	Because I'm not very popular and I'm not to be demeaning.
	They might say you're just, you'll be a convenient target to send a message to everyone else in the sphere to shut them up.
	You're sufficiently disliked.
	You're sufficiently, you say they call you homophobic and transphobic.
	And then you'll say, well, you just said that, you know, homosexual men should not be renting wombs.
	And they're going to qualify that as homophobic to write to justify that statement.
	They're going to say, if you don't believe that men should be competing in women's sports, you're transphobic.
	But they'll say you're sufficiently overt about your needles or whatever you want to call them that they'll use you as a target to send the message to everyone else in the sphere, shut up and support the administration, or we'll manufacture a baseless defamation claim against you.
	Exactly.
	So that's looking at the details.
	Is I have been, so people know this is not the first time I've been targeted with something frivolous or insane.
	And I just want to clarify that there are articles out there that I can't even get taken down that slander my name because it literally says an anonymous source told us that this happened.
	And then it's like, I go to court, no one produces evidence because it didn't happen.
	And like, I'm exonerated because it's like nothing happened.
	But the article stays up because how I can't, you know, it's those legal things.
	Like, I can't tell them that an anonymous source didn't say that.
	If the anonymous source said it, that it's not true, they didn't say it was true.
	They just said an anonymous source said this to us.
	So I have, I deal with a lot of smear, smearing.
	And I think it's because, yeah, I'm not, I think they're afraid of what, like, I don't think they're afraid of me getting big.
	This is why it's not an ego thing.
	I'm not saying that they're afraid of me becoming big like Fuentes and Candace.
	What they're saying is I'm not trying to be big like them.
	I just want to show people that you cannot take Zionist money.
	You don't have to become an anti-Jew Jew network.
	Yeah.
	I don't want anyone thinking I'm defensive on this.
	I just want to ask you, what is Zionist?
	I've asked this to people.
	Nobody answers it.
	And so I don't, what, what do you mean by Zionist and what does Zionist mean?
	Yeah.
	So Zionists in this context is very important, the context, right?
	Because it's sort of a wide, wide cast.
	It's like an it's a net, right?
	So there's a lot of people mean a lot of things.
	When I say it, it's very simple.
	I use it as a political, religio-racial superiority, political dogma that is seeking to establish the third temple in Israel and to bring about the Antichrist.
	And in the midst of that, you know, there's a lot of, they had to establish Israel.
	There's a lot of these, these statements, and they also believe that Israel are God's chosen people, whether Christian or not.
	And there's a hierarchy where there is a blessing.
	These people are chosen.
	And as you'll hear, like, whether you're Christian, you got to, it's about fighting for them.
	And, you know, it actually ends up becoming about what they want, what their interests are above our own to the point to where it actually is detrimental to our country.
	It's detrimental to Christianity and it's detrimental.
	I am not saying Zionism as in do Jews deserve to have a place to live.
	Because I think what's dumb about that statement is like, do I think those Jews deserve the land of Israel?
	No.
	Do I think that the Jews like they're a distinct people and deserve like the world should work, should have worked together and should work together to give them a place where they're safe and are able to live and operate?
	Yes, I do.
	I think that that is a good idea.
	I think that was a good idea.
	I just think where we put them was what they wanted at our detriment.
	And that's why I say not Zionist money.
	It's people that are that are willing to do things that are hurtful to Americans because they're helpful to Jews.
	And I don't think that's a good way to operate.
	So even like under your term of Zionism, it could include Christians as well.
	Oh, the majority of Zionists are Christians, correct?
	Yeah.
	So the large, the vast majority, over 70% of Zionists are distinctly Christian, evangelical.
	Now, let me ask you this question then.
	What is based on that definition?
	What is Zionist money and who are the entities that offer Zionist money in this sphere?
	Okay, yeah.
	So there is a, so okay, well, I could get myself in trouble here.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So I, so there's one group that I just call the turning point donor class, right?
	So like if you were to talk to really, there's really good guys out there.
	I love like Cole, Andrew Colvet, Tyler Boyer.
	I'll be at, by the way, guys, I'll be, you know, doing some stuff at Turning Point this year.
	Got kind of unblacklisted right before Charlie was murdered.
	They unblacklisted me, said they wanted to work with me.
	And so I'm kind of back working with Turning Point.
	Everyone knows, you know, I'm a like, you know, there's some issues there because of the donors.
	So the donors, I'm on their website, right?
	This is what I mean by the money.
	I'm on their website.
	I've been pre-approved as a speaker.
	I've done tours with Charlie.
	I've spoken at Amfest.
	I've been on large stages.
	I've never misused their platform.
	But the donors don't want me on because they were mad about Tucker.
	And they were saying, well, if you're going to still have Tucker on, then you can't have anybody else who thinks like this platformed at an event because that's your like, because then we're going to pull our money.
	So there's the donor class there that's basically like, look, we'll fund you, but we do have a boundary.
	And if you cross it, we will pull our funding.
	And you saw that before Charlie was murdered.
	You know, the same guy that funds, I think Tommy Robinson and some of these others, you know, pulled his funding from Charlie over his changing stance on unconditional support for Israel.
	I'm just going to pull this comment up.
	He is just wrong, Viva.
	Are you going to tell him?
	First of all, if he's wrong, it's out there.
	Am I here to tell him he's wrong?
	That's not the purpose of a discussion.
	Heck, that's not even the purpose of a debate.
	You're not going to convince your adversary.
	You're going to convince the crowd.
	Wrong on the definition of Zionism?
	That's your definition.
	And it's interesting that even by your own statement, it doesn't include Jews.
	But I don't know colloquially anybody on the street who would hear Zionism and not think that it's immediately and only referring to not just Jews who believe that the state of Israel should be for the Jews, but that Jews at large.
	But it's interesting.
	And so yeah, they trained us in that.
	And I don't think that's what it means.
	I think with because I agree.
	I agree with you, though, by the way.
	And I've had this discussion privately with someone else who's telling me about, you know, it's religious stuff.
	And I don't, I don't, it's beyond religious, like talking about the Antichrist and how the battle has to happen in Jerusalem.
	You're not religiously Jewish, though, I don't think, right?
	No, I'm Bar Mitzfit.
	I grew up Jewish.
	I eat bacon, pork, all the good stuff.
	And when it comes to faith, I don't, you know, I have difficulty believing in the idea that there's a God that is unique to any one religion.
	But I've had a discussion with a Christian, a Christian individual who made a compelling case for the fact that there are gods and demons, or there is a God and there are various demons cloaking themselves as gods.
	And it's interesting, but I'm spiritual, definitely not religious.
	But at least so now the donors at the turning point, let's get into more trouble.
	The ones yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Are they Jewish or are they Christian?
	They're primarily Jewish, but the donor class is primarily Jewish.
	Okay, so that is primarily actually ethnically Jewish, primarily Ashkenazi individuals.
	And then there's another, there's another, which is called the political Republican donor class, which is not the non-profit.
	I call it turning point, but it's the non-profit donor class.
	Then there's the political action.
	And like, I can't actually say the name of the organization because I am in a very, very, I still work with them in terms of individually on some social media stuff.
	But like, even when I ask, you know, the operators of the company, you know, they were all in Israel.
	And it's like, look, yeah, but our main funder of this is a Christian Zionist.
	And like, that's, you know, we're constantly offered, you know, like a lot of the campaigns or things are about trying to get people to think Islam's the biggest threat.
	And that's all, you know, Zionist sort of propaganda.
	But, you know, and Islam is a threat, by the way.
	I'm not going to, I'm not soft on Islam.
	Don't get me wrong on that.
	Well, no, Islam is a threat.
	So, yeah.
	If you're going to go with the standard, it's the Zionists who are supporting the immigration of Islam into the West.
	I mean, and or the Jews.
	I mean, that's how they get around blaming Jews in Europe for mass migration that is bringing its own terrorism problems into European countries.
	I think they want it.
	Yeah.
	I think they want it so that we have collective hate of Muslims and we keep fighting their wars because, I mean, who really likes Muslims?
	I'm not sorry for your audience, you're Muslim.
	Nobody really likes Muslims that much in the West.
	That's just kind of a true statement in general.
	Like people are not very pro-Islam in the West.
	That's what I've disagree with me.
	Well, no, this is where I'm only thinking if we're in a stand-up comedy club, other than that, you might be getting people walking out right now.
	I say people always make the distinction between radical Islam and Islam.
	Radical anything and anything is nobody likes the things that are radical to the point of violence.
	The question is the compatibility historical of Islam with other religions.
	And there is a history that goes back 1500 years that is what it is.
	And it's not neither politically correct or not to observe the historical conflicts between religions, depending on what people believe the essence of the religion to be one of conquest or one of that is not of conquest.
	But now, so hold, so that was the tangent on the Islam.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But just getting off that, I was going to say, because I want to go to the lawsuit.
	What I was going to say is that we've been open.
	So you have two different types of donors, and you also just have a lot of individuals who have this, they want you to be integrated with the Republican Party.
	And it's very well understood.
	For instance, I've gotten leaked the memorandum of essentially the requirements for what you need as a social media influencer to be invited to things like the Antifa Roundtable at the White House.
	And being openly critical of Israel and stuff is a way that you're not going to get invited to the table.
	So there's sort of a lot of people too that are, there's a lot of like groups and organizations.
	There's Yaff, Yal, Yas, PragerU, groups that will sponsor your content, will by proxy help you find donors.
	You become like a rep for them, which is what Alexis Wilkins, I think, is.
	And then they'll sort of basically pay you for life.
	You speak places, you go places, they sort of fund you by proxy.
	And we can go to the details, but this lawsuit, I do believe, is about shutting down our company because they know we don't have the money.
	And it seems like they're just looking for a reason to try to get us shut down.
	Now, the reason why this lawsuit's crazy.
	Here's some of the good juice that people have not heard that I want to explain to your audience.
	Actually, just stop there because we don't want to presume knowledge.
	This is Alexis Wilkins, country singer, political commentator.
	She's worked with PragerU, suing Kyle Serafin, Sam Parker, and yourself for now.
	Three politically disfavored people.
	Kyle's growing on me, but I understand why the FBI dislikes Kyle.
	He's been a vocal critic of Cash and Dan, almost a thorn in their sides.
	Sam Parker, I think, is, I don't know him except for his Twitter life, and he looks like a lunatic to me, seeing things that are not there.
	And you, Elijah, I know relatively well.
	And your lawsuit of the three is the most baseless because it wasn't even a positive statement above and beyond reposting with a picture in response to an article from a guy who himself, as far as I understand, has not yet gotten sued, talking about honeypots and history, Israel's history of using honeypots to infiltrate Iran intelligence elsewhere.
	And then you repost with a picture of Cash and his girlfriend where she's wearing a nice red dress.
	That was the extent of your defamation.
	They then went into your other anti-Israel posts, which there are a lot of people right now, and you can think it's wrong, who believe that America is focusing not just too much on Israel and Israel foreign policy, Ukraine foreign policy, NATO, and have rightful criticisms about that in terms of America first and what it means.
	Sorry, that was the intro.
	Now, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, well, first of all, I want to say also all that yap in the beginning, just take it, guys.
	I'm anti-establishment.
	I'm an open critic of the FBI.
	And if you know me, like any classic American, I might have ideas, but like, I'm not, I don't have any like genuine disdain or hate in my heart for any ethnic group or religion.
	I just want the United States back in control of the Western ethos, our philosophy, and influenced by Christian principles and values and not whatever we have now.
	And with this lawsuit, what's interesting is that you can see there's a text exchange before the lawsuit was filed, okay?
	Where I wrote something about my faith.
	If people don't know, I wrote something very non-over bearing.
	I just said like, hey, like, I really need God's grace in my life.
	It said something like this.
	Like, I really don't deserve it.
	And I understand I've got a long road ahead of me.
	You know, I've got a lot of sin to fight that's stuck in my life, a lot of vice and carnality.
	And like, you know, but I just like, you know, am grateful like that God is, I've come to the knowledge that God can save me.
	And basically, that's all I've said.
	Like, I'm just excited to, like, I've given my life to Jesus.
	And I, this isn't like one of those like, you know, fast conversions that you see people on media.
	It's like, I'm realizing like God is, is going to help me probably over the next, you know, 10 years of my life really start working on these areas.
	And maybe some of the issues people have with me, I'll work on those too.
	But she like retweeted it, Alexis Wilkins, girlfriend of FBI director, and was basically like, you know, you're not a real Christian and like you have hate in your heart.
	You're mean to me and all this stuff.
	It's like, what?
	Like, you know, and then someone was like, well, to her, they respond to her, which is, I think, what this is partially what started it.
	A big comment replied to her like, well, and I'll, I'm going to, I want to double clarify.
	This was a comment that said this.
	It was like, well, of course, of course, you'd be offended by his Christianity.
	You're a Jew.
	And then she was like, I'm not Jewish.
	I'm Christian.
	You have no right to talk about my faith or something.
	And people are like, what do you not have a right to talk about your faith?
	I can talk about whatever I want.
	She got into this fight.
	After that fight is going on, somebody digs back a little deeper and I had posted this picture.
	Now, Seraphin posted a meme under my post that I'm being sued for that was Kash Patel with his like, you know, I know Kash Patel's eyes are like, like, you know, they look like, they look like something, like, he's like on like crack or something.
	I don't know.
	It wasn't the best picture to use for his official government photo because it does look like some people are not wall-wide, but the invert a little cross.
	It's his official picture.
	It's on, I'm trying to find the tweet as you're talking about it.
	I'll find it.
	Yeah, yeah, if you could.
	So, so I basically, he was like, oh, hey, you know, he said, sue this man.
	So he posted and says, sue this man.
	Now, Josh Bernal, the board member, the chair of Kash Patel's foundation, he writes under the meme, oh, maybe I will.
	So it looks like before Alexis Wilkins had a problem with me that her attorney had a problem with me, according to the timeline, from what we're seeing.
	And they have suggested the lawsuit.
	Did you see that?
	Well, now I understand it.
	This is, I can't find the original tweet, but I've seen the original tweet, so I know this is legit.
	You write, I'm so eternally blackpilled.
	It's funny because I thought this was before you got served, right?
	Oh, caveat.
	I didn't get served and they didn't want me to get a hold of this lawsuit.
	And they were trying to be private about it and surprise me.
	And due to leaks from internally that I won't give away my sources, I was leaked this docket without, they tried to make it as quiet as possible, redact what they could from it.
	And then I made it public in their faces to blow it up.
	That's why she's been silent because she got thrown off.
	But hold on, you can't see it because my face is over.
	This is from October 4th, 2025.
	And I'll read it.
	It says, I'm so eternally blackpilled about almost everything, have to make massive changes in my life so I can be at peace with God.
	I do not believe those who are spiritually weak will survive.
	What do you do to spiritually mature?
	I need Jesus, need to shift from vice to virtue.
	Now, the question is this.
	When you tweet this, did you know that you were getting sued yet?
	No, I didn't even.
	Listen, Alexis Wilkins is such a famous country music star.
	I've never heard a song of hers.
	Well, but I like country music.
	So I don't know about her.
	But you didn't know that you were getting sued when you posted that.
	Then she posted the day after this.
	You lost some monetization and all of a sudden you want to seek righteousness.
	Maybe don't be a horrible person with unsubstantiated claims for clicks and you won't have this issue and might sleep at night.
	And then that's you retweeting that picture in response to Han Matt.
	Okay.
	So this occurs before you get served, before you know of the lawsuit.
	A month later, you're sued for 5 million bucks.
	I never saw that.
	Yeah, but I never saw that.
	Now, if you go down, she wrote more stuff, but also I don't even know.
	So like there's like some like caddy attacks in there.
	I don't even know what she's talking about.
	Lose monetization.
	I haven't lost any monetization.
	I'm doing financially very well, actually.
	I just bought a brand new 2026 like BMW M5.
	Like I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, there's no monetization.
	Of course, I have no money in my account for the court records.
	Like I say, I don't have any cash.
	So I don't know what that M5 is worth, but if they, if they have to seize it, Elijah.
	No, here's the best part.
	Here's the best part.
	Here's the best part.
	Go ahead and seize it.
	You're going to love the payments on that thing.
	So I hope you enjoy.
	I hope you take it over and enjoy it.
	That's shit.
	The new M5 is a nice car, but my joke is like, I didn't pay it off, right?
	Because I had to buy it.
	Someone stole my car this last month, right?
	They stole my car off the front of my house.
	The insurance was gap.
	So I was at 104 grand I had left on the car.
	So, you know, you know, I just moved to America, only put 30 grand down, had 104 left, and then they stole it.
	So I was at 100 grand.
	So it's been an expensive month.
	But what it looks like is that she was getting mad at me, but didn't have a lawsuit.
	And then he suggested the lawsuit.
	Now, this is a problem because she allegedly lives in Tennessee and he lives in DC slash in Las Vegas.
	But she doesn't live in DC, okay?
	According to the records that we've seen.
	And yet she filed this in the District of Columbia.
	So she's using a law firm.
	Why are you using a law firm?
	And by the way, and Carris would tell us some weird things that he stated, like, I'm dedicated to my family.
	She's not your family, Cash.
	She's your girlfriend.
	She's not legally your family.
	Like, this, we got to get over this.
	This is what I said.
	Values matter in this country.
	Your girlfriend, guys, I have bad news for you.
	Your girlfriend is not your wife.
	Okay.
	And so you don't have family holds.
	If you're unwilling to commit to her, and if she likes getting, you know, pleasured by a Vishnu worshiping Indian guy, who cares?
	That's up to you guys.
	But Christians do have value.
	She comes to be a Christian.
	She needs to get married, right?
	According to Christianity, she can't, she's in, she's in sin.
	She's, she's living with a, with a, if she's living there, then she's living with a boy.
	So then the whole Christianity thing is like dumb too.
	Cause it's like, okay, well, why are you, why are you like, you know, talking crap?
	I'm not going to talk crap on her faith, but it's like, why are you like taking a moral superiority if you're living in sexual sin?
	I don't know if she is.
	I'm not saying she is.
	I'm just saying, you know, who knows?
	People have said that.
	I'm not going to parrot those claims personally.
	But, you know, it's a free country.
	And I don't kink shame.
	But if you go down to it, it's like, well, unless you're like sleeping with him and living there or whatever you're doing, like, I don't really care.
	I mean, you're a grown adult, but why are you filing in DC?
	I don't know.
	It just makes no sense.
	Like, no worries.
	Are you living there?
	They filed in.
	It's a firm.
	Sorry.
	They use a DC.
	They filed in West Palm Beach.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They filed the exact lawsuit.
	And then the firm.
	Yeah, the firm is, hold on, I'm just looking at the document.
	But not the document.
	The firm is Binal Law Group.
	I'm going to just see what they've been involved with.
	But no, yeah.
	Yeah.
	By the way, and I also have a meeting.
	So I have Onir Lopez, who's, you know, representative of the biggest billion dollar cases.
	He's working.
	I have five people working on this case that are from a very, very, very important and very incredible law firm that have come on at pennies on the dollar.
	These people, you know, we're talking about up to a thousand bucks an hour type of firms, you know, where you're really, really paying.
	And they're coming in.
	And also Andrew Tate's law firm law team as well is volunteered to come as well and offer assistance because they've been successfully fighting some cases here in Florida.
	And so I have some really powerful and good, good legal help.
	But what it looks like is that this was like a petty, like she had it in mind.
	She's probably yapping to cash and like she's she's she's fomenting, right?
	She's there's multiple posts on this.
	She's mad about this picture and she's she's feeling anger, but nowhere in there is she talk, does she ever claim what I said?
	Because I didn't say anything.
	So she's like, you're trying to make statements.
	I didn't say anything.
	This was the retweet.
	People are going to say it's disingenuous to say that you weren't suggesting something by retweeting that in response to an article about Masad agents.
	Look, not to write your defense.
	It's an internet trope at this point in time that she's a honeypot and it could have just been a joke like, ha ha, look at this in response to your article.
	Or it could have been your sincerely held belief.
	And it's not, it's clearly a belief.
	Yeah, I think that this reeks in my view of honeypot.
	I don't know.
	People's, the connection to her and Masada, it's tenuous at best.
	You know, she did some work for Prager Ewan, good for that.
	But even if you meant it seriously, my view, it's clearly opinion.
	It could have just as easily been a joke, much like the Hillary Clinton kill list.
	Whenever there's a post, like whenever someone dies, they say, you know, the meme, I've got some damaging information on Hillary Clinton with the face of the person who just died.
	Hillary Clinton's now going to sue everybody who posts that meme.
	So, okay, so sorry.
	So you get sued.
	And for that tweet, you had no advanced, real advanced knowledge that this suit was coming?
	Yeah.
	So I had no advanced knowledge.
	And in fact, just a reporter working for Josh Hammer's Newsweek article kind of let it slip in an article that there was like some impending thing happening that he discovered that there was some impending lawsuit.
	So then we went ahead and looked at, obviously, it'd probably have to be in this county, you know, where the business is or whatever.
	So we went ahead and looked at where it is and we found the lawsuit.
	And then we're the ones who made it public.
	And so it's like, I don't know, I don't know what this is about, but I just want to put on record here.
	I don't think I've ever really gone after somebody's girlfriend like this online for anything unless they've like personally attacked me first.
	I don't think I've ever really gone after anyone to really like ruin their name or cause harm to their reputation.
	I've never really even done that, let alone even done anything that could be considered suable in any situation where like, I don't know anything about this girl.
	Like I might have, you know, I might, someone might fight me and say something bad about me and I say something bad about them or whatever.
	But like in this situation, I don't even, I don't, I don't, I don't have any bad thoughts about her.
	I don't, I don't.
	It's not even for the lawsuit.
	I just, I, I, I posted a picture.
	And, you know, at the very least, you know, we have a single unmarried FBI director and we saw with Fang Fang what happened with another member of Congress.
	And I just think that it's, you know, I get concerned about unmarried people that are actively on the sexual marketplace and are not married.
	There's a, there's, there's, you know, it's, it's just an interesting thing to me to be like, huh, that's interesting.
	But that's not even why I posted it.
	But I mean, that is a good point.
	Even if I did think that, why would it matter?
	Am I not allowed to think things about my government officials?
	Why'd she think it was about her per se?
	That I'm like, why the admission of like, why does she feel guilty about something that I never said, right?
	It's very weird.
	Well, I try to find the tweets that are going to burn people who are trying to justify this lawsuit.
	And I like to go see what they've said about people being assets.
	The only material distinction when people call Eric Swallowell, you know, a bang bang McFang Fang asset is that Fang Fang was determined to be a spy.
	So therefore, it's factually true of her.
	And therefore, the accusations against Swallowell are tangentially connected.
	In this case, barring her, you know, above and beyond her having done work for Prague or U, there's zero evidence that she is an Israeli mossad asset, a honeypot, although sometimes people argue they don't have to be voluntarily ones.
	And so I just think it's a dumb, I think it's a dumb theory, but it's certainly an internet joke at this point in time.
	Is it defamatory or is this a slap lawsuit to send a message to say, hey, people, watch what you say about your government officials or their, and it's not just their girlfriends or their public figure political commentator, you know, girlfriends, or we'll sue you.
	And they're going to say, well, it's not cash that's doing it.
	And I don't think it is, but it certainly reflects poorly, even if it's not.
	And they should have had this discussion beforehand.
	It looks like there are elements on the right who are now behaving exactly like elements on the left.
	Well, that's what I'm going to say.
	So I kind of want to clarify this because we're still developing.
	I'm not, I could talk to you privately at some point, and I'd love to get a coffee with you, especially because there's some really funny things that we know about this and some developments that I can't explain.
	It's just like, yeah, I'm going to get the FBI on my back.
	I probably should have told you.
	It's incredible.
	The sloppy nature of this is just incredible.
	Like it's, it's, it's like high school, but they want $5 million.
	How do they even quantify the damages?
	Like, what did I do that cost her $5 million?
	Well, that's the question I was asking.
	It's like, where are her allegations of material reputational harm?
	I just noticed she's more popular than she's ever been.
	And I say this without judgment.
	She's a smart, young, you know, talented person who has got a good future, you know, unless it's burnt with looking like a vengeful litigant.
	But yeah, she's more popular.
	I don't know that she's lost contracts.
	It seems like she has more speaking gigs and is doing events.
	So I don't know where the damage is.
	I don't know that anybody takes the allegation seriously.
	And even if they do, how they judge her as a result?
	It's not like, you remember with Jussie Smollett, where people were outing the Nigerian brothers as gay or alleging that they were gay, and they sued.
	It was either false light or defamation because they could get killed for being gay in Uganda.
	There, I can see, you know, I don't care about if anyone's gay, but if you call someone gay who lives in Uganda, there it has some real consequences, suggesting that she might be a honeypot for cash.
	I don't think most people take it seriously.
	And even those who do, it's no more relevant than that.
	But so I agreed on the damages.
	I don't know where they've alleged them.
	But are you, well, I won't ask you strategy yet.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, that's what I was going to say.
	So strategy, and I want to make sure I'm good on time for you and your audience.
	Oh, Joe, I can go as long as you can.
	Yeah, I was like, I was like, yeah, because I have to go on redacted, I think, at like 4.20 or something.
	Yeah, they're live right now.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So I want you to go at like, I think it's like 4.15 maybe.
	Hey, go, go for it.
	Let me, let me ask, actually ask my manager here.
	What time is it?
	Oh, I didn't realize.
	Sorry, go for it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I wanted to explain.
	So first of all, this appears petty, but also I do believe that there is a massive ability for a countersuit here.
	Because now that you have people like Will Chamberlain suggesting I register with Farah, who is a reputable person, who's you have people like this other, there's a big organization that are investigating me.
	I'm getting messages from all these, it's all over now.
	They're starting to write like, who funds this guy and what?
	So now my reputation is actually like her reputation of being a honeypot or foreign agent.
	I never suggested that.
	And she doesn't run a media company.
	So what damages?
	Like, like I run a media company.
	I have 24 employees between my pharmaceutical and my company.
	I love people like who funds like who funds your company?
	It's like, bro, do you not realize I have like a whole career that's like not online?
	Like, I know it's hard to say because of the amount of work I do online that I have a whole like, I'm the CEO of a pharmaceutical company, Will Chamberlain.
	Like, I'm not going to give away the things.
	It's like, it's like, I have a normal job.
	I have a normal job, right?
	It's like, I have a normal job and I do media.
	And I do that so I don't have to get bullied into taking money, right?
	So it's like, so I can say the truth because I know I've a steady check coming in.
	So I don't have to like, you know, sell my soul for 200 bucks for a stupid tweet.
	It's like, I want to make sure I have my consistency with God on my side.
	But I think there's a countersuit on our side because we are in a position to where we're she might she might be messing up some things and investors and some stuff that is heavily quantifiable.
	I'll just say this.
	And she's also, because of my previous issues with the, with, with no-knock warrants with the government, I've had to send my family away.
	So now my family's separated.
	That's separation, anxiety.
	That's problems, trauma.
	My kids are now living away from their dad.
	They're in a safe place.
	Because I've had the FBI has never been honest with me about what they'll do or what they're not.
	And because of the firm being related to her boyfriend, I have reasonable doubt to suspect that he might be involved.
	And, you know, we're going to be setting out quite a few different things to obtain.
	We're going to be even before discovery.
	We do not believe that Kash Patel has attorney client privilege for us to obtain any internal communications from the attorney to see if they have any communications about this with cash at all.
	That's what we'd like to see if the firm has any communications with cash about this.
	And they do not have the right to avoid that in this case based upon what the legal team has said, because that's an important factor that we need to know if we're going to turn this into a slap law.
	So are we either going to do a slap suit if that if it does get dismissed, that's A, we'd like it to get dismissed.
	B, we might like to just elevate it and just re-amend it and do a counter slap suit against for corruption, government corruption.
	And C, you know, if this all goes in that way, um, there will, there will probably most definitely be a counter because I've already occurred, I've already incurred about $30,000 in damages from this.
	So I'm already $30,000 in damages and I have every penny.
	It's the Jew in me.
	I live in here in Boca, Raton, or whatever.
	It's the Jew in me.
	I can't, there's so many synagogues.
	I'm counting my coins.
	I have never been so offended in my life, Elijah.
	I'll tell you two things, by the way.
	They're going to say, A, it's implausible for you to claim you didn't know what you were suggesting when you retweeted it.
	And B, they're going to suggest you are defamation proof because of things you've said and the accusations and allegations that have been made against you.
	You don't have to agree with it.
	Just I can anticipate what the lawyer on their side will say and will do.
	I just say at the end of this, I think it's a bogus lawsuit, regardless of the asshole that you are or come off as on the internet.
	This is not how you do things.
	And the people cheering this on and saying, now you're getting what you deserve for being an awful person.
	Congrats.
	That's exactly what they said about Alex Jones.
	And they don't start with the Donald Trumps without going through the Alex Joneses and the David Ike's.
	And now they've gone, they're doing this with on a lower level with Kyle Serafin, yourself, Sam Parker.
	And Elijah, I know you do got to go to the redacted.
	So I do.
	Where can people find you?
	If they want to find you.
	And where can they find you if they want to avoid you?
	Yeah, that's actually a really good question.
	Well, you can watch my interview.
	I'm throwing it there in the chat in Rumble with Max Blumenthal.
	Make sure you check it out.
	We talk about this discussion.
	He's the one who released it on Rumble, Riff TV, and on YouTube.
	And if you want to avoid me, don't go on to X because I'm all over there right now.
	And that's not a good place to go.
	But you can find me at Elijah's Schaefer.
	Thank you, Viva, for having me on, man.
	I greatly appreciate it.
	I'd love to do some more work with you in the future.
	And I think, I don't know, man, I've never been easily offended.
	I don't think you're like that either.
	We're an old stock of people who just, we just kind of like, yeah, you know, I don't have to agree with everyone I talk to about everything.
	And I'd prefer to talk to people who aren't bullshit and are honest about who they are and not see eye to eye than to sit around people who agree with me and they're lying to my face, secretly hate me, you know?
	Say whatever you want.
	Keep your hands off my body and don't try to ruin people's lives.
	And you can say whatever you want.
	Elijah.
	Well, keep having those nice locks of hair.
	And I can't promise keeping my hands off your body, but I appreciate it.
	I'll see you soon enough.
	But thanks for coming on, man.
	Thanks, man.
	Have a good day.
	And now I'm going to get to all of the Rumble Rants.
	I'm going to, oh, there he goes.
	I'll get to all of the humble rants that I have yet to get to.
	Have I put the thing up?
	Okay, I got a bunch in our locals community.
	That's Elijah, people.
	That was fun.
	It's wild.
	Now, some people are going to say, well, you know, I know exactly what people are going to say.
	How do you fraternize with this people?
	It's tribalism now, even on the right.
	You got Tucker, Fuentes, Elijah, Candace, the Tates.
	And you're going to say, what do they all have in common?
	They are anti-Israel.
	Then you've got on the right, the other side who says, how can you fraternize with this people?
	I like fraternizing with everybody.
	The funny thing is who actually declines invitations to come on the channel and discuss.
	And to the person who said, Viva, challenge him, tell him he's wrong.
	That's not the purpose of discussion.
	If you get into a discussion and your objective is to convince the other person that they are wrong, you are in a disingenuous discussion.
	The heck was that?
	My dog just go.
	The heck was that?
	Whatever, something fell over.
	Let me read these crumble rants.
	We got King of Bill Tong in the house says, premium Bill Tong from Biltong, USA.
	High protein, keto-friendly, no additives, U.S. sourced beef, authentic South African flavor.
	Get some now at Billtongusa.com.
	Code Viva for 10% off.
	And Bill Tong says, I'm not sure if Elijah is now based in the USA, but I'll send him some Bill Tong if he is interested.
	He can email us.
	We'll send him a sample.
	Okay, that was my Wizen.
	What's up?
	Okay.
	I think the dog just woke himself up in an abrupt manner.
	And now what we'll do is go over to viva barnslaw.locals.com.
	I saw a lot of, there's a lot of chat there, but I can see where they are.
	The only reason to not have a guest on or a debate should be their willingness to do so in good faith.
	The guardrails are BS, says F. Chaton.
	And I agree.
	F. Chaton says, the semi-analogous suit is MacCon's wife case against Candace.
	That one makes way more sense, and I do not blame her.
	Matt Collins' wife.
	I say you sue people for things.
	You better make damn sure there's an absolute necessity to sue.
	It's not fun one way or the other, and it opens you up to discovery one way and the other.
	And even if you're right, and even if you're going to win, and even if you can win against a defendant who's not judgment-proof, it's not without consequence, stress, you know, detracting from your quality of life in the interim.
	I always said anybody who takes pleasure in suing people is a sociopath.
	Alexis does not look like a sociopath.
	She looks like a fine human being to me.
	I think this is bad legal advice.
	I think this is bad political advice in the political impact it's going to have.
	And I think there's probably some more going on here.
	We got 808 Scotty who says, what happened?
	Lawnmower get caught in your beard.
	So what happened?
	Look, first of all, I wanted to get a little sun.
	I wanted to exfoliate.
	I had a few patches that I said I'm not.
	First of all, it gets long enough.
	I just spat on my computer.
	It gets long enough that you end up playing with it with your, anybody who's had facial hair will know this with your tongue.
	Like you can feel the hairs going in here.
	And then you end up looking like a snake half of the day.
	So it was time.
	It's off.
	It'll grow back and I'll only be ugly and naked for a slight period of time.
	Bad Mr. Frostman says, I was slightly offended by slightly offended the show in a positive way.
	Your Nick Fuentes interview was legend, says Brad Mr. Frostman.
	That's my underlying theory also of Nick Fuentes is that people are going to say it's people not cosplaying, but playing a character with consequences in real life.
	We'll see if ever I have a discussion with Fuentes or Candace or Ian Carroll.
	I got to hit him up back on Twitter because I want to discuss his theory on the Charlie Kirk.
	All right, people.
	We're going to go over to VivabarnesLaw.locals.com for the after party.
	We will find someone worthy to raid.
	I'm going to go raid redacted because obviously Elijah is going to be on redacted.
	And I think I see his face.
	Not right now, but he's going to be up there soon.
	We're going to go raid redacted.
	Let me make sure I put the link in the proper live chat.
	Here, we're going to go raid.
	Come on over to vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	I didn't do the raid.
	Forward slash raid in my own chat here.
	Okay, there we go.
	Confirm raid.
	Go let him know from whence he came.
	And there's one more, there's one more rumble rant, which I shall read.
	And make a car for King of Bill Tong.
	Cash wants bagel-flavored Bill Tong for his little honey.
	Okay.
	She's not Jewish.
	I mean, Alexis Wilkins is a Christian woman.
	And it's all fun.
	The identity politics stuff is nuts.
	All right, that was fun, people.
	Let me go now and end on Rumble.
	Come over to VivabarnesLaw.locals.com.
	Tomorrow is Thursday.
	Friday, I'm having on Dell Del Bigtree talk about his show, An Inconvenient Study, his documentary, an inconvenient study about the potential correlation between vaccination and bad health among children.
	Thursday.
	So today I was on with Alex Jones talking about the ostriches.
	And tomorrow I'll be on with Megan Murphy, I think, talking about the ostriches.
	So that might be tonight or tomorrow.
	We'll see.
	Go forth.
	And hold on.
	Roostang over in Rumble.
	VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com says, Viva, have you noticed how certain guests suggested for your show are not responding to your overtures to appear?
	Benny Johnson seems to get these guests on his show often.
	Roseanne Barr, Nicole Shanahan, and the Dutch activist Eva, to name a few.
	Like bees to honey, they are eager to be on Benny's.
	They love him.
	What is his secret?
	Well, I haven't noticed that.
	Now I feel that people don't like me.
	Womp, womp, womp.
	All right, let's go over to VivaBarn's Law.locals.com for the after party.

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