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Sept. 7, 2023 - Viva & Barnes

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Nurse Facing Disciplinary Action for Speaking Out; Update on Tamara Lich Trial - Viva Frei

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	These resources that have not come to us, now you want to overly compensate for people who've never lived here before, and they need to be taken care of first and foremost before anything else happens here.
	Why would any leader put our black communities already riddled with crime at further risk by placing unbedded non-taxpayers steps away from our seniors?
	Our children and our homes, we've worked so hard on our own to secure.
	I'm going to start this again.
	I'm not playing the entire thing.
	It's from End Wokeness Twitter handle.
	I don't know the context of the video, but quite clearly it's local residents who are angry at the consequences or policies of their government.
	I just need to highlight two things, and then we're gonna move on to today's show.
	These resources that have not come to us, now you wanna overly compensate for people who've never lived here before.
	We need to be taken care of first and foremost before anything else happens here.
	We the citizens, the tax paying citizens.
	We, the citizens, deserve to be taken care of first and foremost.
	That almost sounds like an iteration of America first.
	That wildly offensive, self-centered policy, make America great again.
	America first.
	It almost sounds like that's exactly what she's describing.
	We are the citizens that the government is supposed to take care of, not, and we're going to get into the second question here, unvetted non-taxpayers.
	Did you hear the word that that guy used?
	Why would any leader put our black communities already riddled with crime at further risk by placing unvetted non-taxpayers steps away from our seniors?
	Unvetted non-taxpayers.
	I'm no mathemagician.
	That sounds like Orwellian newspeak for illegal immigrants.
	Like, people want to say the same thing.
	They want to believe the same thoughts, but they want to believe that their thoughts and what they are saying is morally righteous, morally superior.
	And so they create these terms to turn what they consider to be offensive language into virtuous language.
	What was it?
	Non-vetted.
	No, it was unvetted non-taxpayers.
	That's because the individual feels morally better saying that than illegal immigrants.
	Better saying than genital mutilation.
	Control the language and you can control thought itself.
	That's the intro because we're getting into an interview which is all about controlling language.
	Today's schedule, we have two interviews.
	One with Sarah Shijunian, who's a nurse out of Ontario, who is now feeling the brunt of the politicized, weaponized...
	Professional licensure body of Canada, much like Jordan Peterson and others.
	And then we're going to have Robert Krejcik, who's a Rebel News reporter, who's attending, from what I understand, every day of the Tamara Leach and Chris Barber trial in Canada.
	So it's a Canadian-centric stream today, but Americans might want to pay attention as to what's going on north of the border because it's going to trickle down.
	It's going to trickle down fast and hard.
	Let me see what's going on here.
	Rumbles as well as Locals offline.
	Hold on.
	Let me see here.
	It looks...
	Sometimes you have to refresh.
	So I'm refreshing.
	No, we're live on Rumble and I can see myself there.
	Gonna go to Locals and everyone's saying Locals works.
	So for those of you who are new to the channel, Viva Fry, Montreal litigator turned Rumbler.
	Although now I live in Florida.
	I bought a surfboard today.
	It was a $200...
	Six foot soft top board.
	Recommendation of Jessica Rose, who I interviewed a couple of weeks ago for the second time.
	And then I go to the ocean and the waves are non-existent.
	So I'm going to try to get into surfing.
	I'm told it's good for meditation, spirituality, balance, core strength, etc.
	But I picked up a beginner's board and we'll see how it works.
	What was I saying?
	Two guests today, for those of you who don't know, I start on YouTube and Rumble, Viva Frye on Rumble, and then after about 15 minutes, we end on YouTube and go over to Rumble, and we're simultaneously streaming on locals, vivabarneslaw.locals.com, for an amazing community where everyone is above average.
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	Okay.
	Sarah has been sitting in the backdrop patiently waiting to tell her story to the world because I don't think people know what is going on in Canada or the degree to which the madness has not yet reached.
	Peak depths.
	But we're getting there.
	I'll let Sarah explain who she is.
	But I say, like, if I'm late to hear about a story and I'm living on Twitter and I'm living on the interwebs, if I'm late to the story, that means a lot of people out there who probably would care if they knew about it don't know about it to care.
	So we're going to try to remedy that today.
	All right, Sarah, I'm bringing you in.
	You ready?
	Three, two, one.
	And we in.
	Sarah, how goes the battle?
	Oh boy.
	I know half of the answer to that question.
	We were talking beforehand.
	I was watching some of your other interviews and I know that you mentioned it's an Armenian last name on Jason Levine's interview.
	I knew that and then one of the things that I learned from an Armenian friend back when I was a kid is that Apparently, Armenians in Diaspora spell their last name with I-A-N, whereas Armenians in Armenia who are not native but live there spell it with a Y-A-N in terms of the last name.
	And the I-A-N means son of, if I'm not mistaken.
	That's what you said.
	I didn't know.
	I didn't know.
	Well, I love last names.
	I love the etymology and origins of last names.
	Okay, Sarah, for those who don't know who you are...
	We're going to get into the depths of the story, but 30,000-foot overview before we start talking about the trials and tribulations that you're facing in Commie Canada.
	So, you want me to tell you a little bit about the story of how I spoke out?
	Well, let's say it's elevator pitch, and then we get into the details.
	Oh, okay.
	I don't know about elevator pitch.
	I have a lot of elevator pitch as I go.
	But I've been a nurse since 2004, and I worked in a nursing home for the greater part of my career.
	You know, when you work in a nursing home, you know the government doesn't care about these people.
	So when they said that they were shutting down the entire economy to protect my residents that got half of the money for food allowance a day, as prisoners do, a huge red flag went up in my head.
	And I don't know how much details you want me to go into, but I was actually the first, if not one of the first, but one of the first active nurse.
	To speak at a rally here in Canada.
	And I founded Nurses Against Lockdowns, which was to unite nurses and bring the ethics back into healthcare.
	And it kind of merged into Canadian frontline nurses.
	And that's another story of its own.
	So I'm going to keep it separate today.
	So I spoke out October 2020.
	And we were also the nurses who went to Washington, D.C. on January 6th.
	With four nurses from the United States, which you might know, Erin Marie and Nicole Siretek were two of them.
	And we came back here and I had already been fired from my first job.
	I was actually Chief Steward at my job.
	And I was known to be one of the popular nurses with families and residents.
	And we're going to get into that because one of my questions is, had you had a clean record prior to the charges that you're now facing?
	But let's back it up all the way.
	Okay.
	I won't ask your age, but I'm going to surmise it.
	You've been a nurse since 2004.
	You're a mother of three?
	Yes.
	Single mom, yeah.
	Single mom of three.
	Born and raised in Canada?
	Montreal.
	All right.
	Very nice.
	What neighborhood or what municipality?
	Actually, Westmount and St. Henry.
	Actually, all over the place.
	But I grew up as a child in Westmount, so good area.
	Okay, I'm from Westmount as well.
	Did you know that?
	No.
	I used to live on Green Avenue.
	I mean, you live on Green Avenue?
	I was born, like, I did the lower Westmount, but we were born in middle Westmount, not upper Westmount.
	Although Westmount is, you know, it's a very, very affluent municipality.
	It's a nice municipality.
	But yeah, born and raised in Westmount.
	So weird.
	That's amazing.
	And now you're in Ontario?
	Yes, I live in Toronto.
	Brampton, Toronto.
	So, born and raised in Canada.
	Parents?
	My mom is born in Montreal.
	No, actually, you know, close to Montreal.
	And my dad is born in Lebanon.
	Armenian from Lebanon.
	Okay, fantastic.
	Okay, so now, what do you study and how do you end up in nursing?
	Because it's a very interesting thing, like people who decide to go into nursing, but how did you end up in that career path?
	Well, actually, I, oh boy, it's a really long story.
	I was married to someone who was 15 years older than me who wanted me to be an accountant.
	I didn't even know what an accountant was, but it was definitely not for me.
	And I kind of fell out of it.
	He was deported.
	Long story.
	Like, my story is like so much going on.
	But I just, I always wanted to be a doctor.
	I always wanted to help people.
	And the university where I was going in accounting told me to take the year off.
	So I actually went and did the personal support worker.
	And I just loved it.
	I was so good at it.
	It was like, I have a lot of trauma in my life.
	And I didn't feel very worthy.
	But I was really good.
	I finished the PSW and I went for nursing right away.
	It added value to my life.
	And I honestly, nursing saved my life.
	You know, I felt like I wasn't important.
	I have a lot of drinking in my past and drugs.
	And, you know, it slowly started my journey into, you know, becoming someone who was in a better place.
	So nursing put value onto me.
	I loved it.
	I still love it.
	It's just what I do.
	I love to help people.
	Now, not everybody gets to say...
	My ex was deported.
	And even I know the limits to the questions that I will ask.
	But when you mentioned trauma, because you mentioned it in the interview that you did with Jason Levine as well, and we talked for a few seconds before, and I said, I'll ask just so people understand context, but I'm not going to pry too much.
	Prior trauma, is it of physical violence, psychological abuse?
	And how did that sort of influence the decision to get into nursing and healthcare?
	Well, I come from a dysfunctional family.
	I mean, don't we all these days?
	No.
	But there was emotional, some physical abuse.
	But the abuse that affected me most was sexual abuse.
	And it was in the family.
	And it happened, you know, when you go through that kind of abuse, you're at risk for it to happen again and again.
	So it happened several times in my life.
	My parents weren't very attentive.
	So I was on the streets alone a lot.
	I grew up there a lot.
	And so I got into a lot of trouble.
	Addictions and all that.
	And when I was 17, I met this 32-year-old who paid attention to me.
	And so I got pregnant and he didn't have papers.
	And he said that, you know, if I don't get papers, I'm going to leave.
	Do you want to marry me?
	And I was like, yes, I'm going to save him and he's going to love me.
	And so I did all that.
	And obviously he didn't have papers.
	So that's where that comes in.
	But yeah, the trauma kept following me because when you don't fix...
	The problems that are in your childhood, you know, the patterns continue because you try to fix that wound, but you try to fix it through others that are similar to the people that have abused you.
	And that's not how it works.
	You got to go do the work and heal yourself first.
	So I kept, yeah, it kept happening.
	Like I kept, my life kept, you know, going through these cycles of being re-abused and re-abused.
	And when I entered, so I felt like I wasn't doing much with my life, honestly.
	And when I did the PSW, the personal support worker, right before the nursing, I just loved it so much.
	It just put value onto my life.
	I was excited.
	It's something I'm passionate about.
	So that's why I decided to do nursing.
	And I just loved it.
	I've graduated with honors.
	The teacher was always like, not Sarah.
	Let someone else do it.
	It's interesting.
	I forget who it was that said it.
	I think I want to say Dr. Drew because I'm not sure how many people I listened to where they said, you know, it's not five or ten dysfunctional or abusive relationships.
	It's one that reiterates or manifests over time until you can actually nip it in the butt.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	I mean, fantastic.
	I say fantastic.
	It's interesting to know the Genesis story.
	What we're going to do is I'm going to end this on YouTube now because We're going to get into stuff that YouTube and your professional order, you can't even say the things that have turned out to be true two years later without getting into trouble.
	And also YouTube doesn't deserve us.
	So we're ending on YouTube.
	Come on over to the Rumble.
	The link is there.
	Doesn't change anything from our Aunt Sarah.
	But everyone, mosey on over and we'll carry this on over there.
	Three, two, one, now.
	So you do the PSW.
	Is that like a one-year, is it a deck or is it a one-year, two-year program?
	Back when I did it, personal support worker was six months.
	And so after that, I liked it so much that I went on to do the nursing.
	I don't have a degree.
	I have a diploma here in Canada.
	So it's a two-year program that I did.
	Okay, very nice.
	And so you do a two-year program.
	You're a, what is that, a registered nurse, a certified nurse?
	Registered practical nurse, we call them here.
	I think in the States, they're kind of like LPNs.
	Okay, because there's an LP.
	I mean, I can't pretend to know the different degrees.
	Two years.
	What does the work of a nurse consist of?
	Like, do you have to go get an internship?
	Do you go work with doctors?
	Do they put you in hospitals?
	Or do you go look for any place you want to work that needs a nurse?
	Well, in school, you have clinicals.
	So you have the schoolwork where you're at school, and then they send you to clinicals.
	So you do different places, nursing homes, hospitals, and things like that.
	And it's two years.
	And for me...
	When I did my pre-grad at Toronto Western, they liked me so much, they hired me from my pre-grad.
	So I had to get a temporary license before getting my real one because I was hired before I got my license.
	Okay.
	That's amazing.
	So 2004, you start in...
	That's the first year as a registered, I forget the word now, but that's your first year officially as a nurse.
	Yeah.
	Where do you start and how do you progress as a nurse?
	I worked at Toronto Western, which is an educating hospital here.
	But I was a single mom and it was an hour and a half transit.
	So I had to kind of switch up.
	I started working in the community with kids a lot.
	And then in 2007...
	I got the nursing home job and that was great for me because it was in the day seven to three.
	I didn't have to do shift work and all that.
	So I kind of stayed in there and kept doing agency work.
	So working with disabled children in the community too.
	So I worked both things.
	And now nursing homes, private or public?
	Private.
	Okay.
	This is where you're going to explain some stuff that's going to blow people's minds because the way it loops into COVID is going to shock people who don't know.
	But what is it like working in a nursing home?
	The private ones are the good ones.
	They're the ones where you see less neglect.
	What was it like working at a nursing home?
	Well, I actually...
	Loved working in a nursing home because I love working with seniors and making sure they get everything that they need.
	But, you know, it's all about profit.
	It's giving them the cheapest food possible, even when it's not government, right?
	Because even if it's private, it's all about profit.
	So giving them the cheapest food possible, like powdered eggs and blue juice or Jell-O, canned mandarins, like just crap.
	That, you know, people can't really thrive on.
	And then they push as much medication as possible and try to cut corners everywhere, whether it's physio or activation, you know, to save money all the time.
	So it's sad because they can be getting so much better.
	Even for less, actually, if you ask me.
	Well, I mean, it's not the case that all cheap or affordable food is unhealthy, and it's certainly not.
	Well, it's more likely the case that cheap food is not healthy.
	So you did the private.
	Now, this is always the interplay.
	Private, cut corners because you want to maximize profits.
	Public, you don't have the budget, so you cut corners one way or the other.
	It seems that unless you're in a good private, the elderly get neglected when they're in these homes.
	Yeah, even in a private.
	Okay.
	And you did that, so 2007, you did that until 2021?
	I got fired from my first job two days before I spoke out.
	So November 2nd, 2020, I got fired from the nursing home.
	Had you ever been fired before?
	No.
	Had you ever had, before we get into, look, just so people can vet you, what was your record like?
	Do they have disciplinary actions for nurses?
	Had you had any run-ins, any critiques, any problems?
	Up until you spoke out against what you felt to be absolutely hogwash COVID measures.
	I was really proud of my record.
	I was chief steward of the union where I worked.
	What does that mean for those who have no idea?
	I was the chief representative of the union.
	Protecting people from the employee.
	Like, I already had that kind of role.
	And my administrator always said, you know, because I was such a big mouth, as she said, and, you know, wouldn't let anything pass by her.
	And she would always tell me, you're so lucky.
	You're the family's and the residents' favorites, as she would smile.
	So I was doing really good where I worked.
	I loved my job.
	I always took the extra step for my residents.
	I did more than I had to.
	Now, this is going to get into the COVID stuff where a lot of people say that it's not that the nurses are the front lines.
	They're not only the front lines.
	They're the first observers, so to speak, that doctors end up relying on the observations of the nurses because they're not there all the time.
	They don't have as much firsthand experience as the nurses.
	And so it's not just that they're the front lines.
	They are perhaps the most important first step in terms of observation and treatment.
	Is that a fair assessment of nurses?
	Absolutely.
	Nurses are the last line of defense between the medical industry and the patient.
	Okay, so you got a 15, well, let's say 14-year, at least a 13-year impeccable career.
	You've been in the industry for 16 years.
	COVID hits, and then tell us what happens at the nursing home.
	I don't think we need to know the name unless we need to know the name, but what ends up happening at the nursing home during COVID, and how do you get into trouble?
	Well, at first, I thought everybody was going to know this was a joke because everybody worked in the same place as I did.
	And everybody can tell that the government doesn't care about these people.
	But I guess I was wrong.
	As I started talking about it, people were like, oh, my God, Sarah, don't start now.
	Don't start with this.
	And people didn't want to talk about it.
	I called the union and I told them, hey, they're taking away my residence rights and they're trying to do tests.
	They want to take away my rights.
	What are we going to do about it?
	And the union was like, Sarah.
	Don't you care about your residence?
	And I just, like, uh-oh.
	I realized that, okay, I'm going to be in trouble.
	I can lose my job here.
	And I'm, as a single mom of three, in a lot of debt, who had two jobs and couldn't even go to my other job anymore because anyone working in a nursing home wasn't allowed to move to a different job.
	You know, I...
	I stayed quiet.
	I got scared and I stayed quiet for a little bit.
	And I started seeing my residents deteriorate.
	So they stopped families from coming in.
	I had a resident that died of a heart attack within a week.
	And this is the...
	And people tell me, oh, you know...
	They were old anyhow.
	Probably a coincidence.
	But no, this resident was the kind of resident when I came in the morning, I had to call her daughter immediately to know exactly what time her daughter was going to come because she had an anxiety problem and she had heart problems.
	And if she was going to ask me every five minutes when her daughter was coming and if her daughter is two minutes late, she's going to panic.
	And so you can imagine what happened to her after a week.
	With a language barrier, not understanding what's going on.
	She just had a heart attack.
	And I don't think people realize, but nursing homes, this is the last stop for these people.
	They have nothing to look forward to except for their loved ones coming in.
	And when their loved ones come in, you can see them come to life.
	And some of them would never eat from us.
	And so when the families stopped, you know, their families would come in and feed them every day.
	But now the family wasn't allowed anymore.
	Like, what do you think happened to those people?
	They call it failure to thrive.
	And so they died.
	They failed to eat.
	And, like, they slowly died.
	They deteriorated.
	They died alone.
	You know, and they would let families come in.
	If death was imminent within hours, they would let the family come in one by one.
	But all gowned up, masks, shields.
	Residents are already unconscious.
	There's no contact.
	It's just disgusting.
	It's to appease their own guilty conscience.
	But this is not exactly the failure to thrive, but people should know about what is actually known as broken heart syndrome.
	When the heart muscle suddenly becomes stunned or weakened, it occurs mostly following severe emotional and physical stress.
	I mean, whether or not it's broken heart syndrome, we know it's happened.
	It happened to my grandmother-in-law, Chubby Cheek Edna, who she had chubby cheeks and she had a little tremor.
	And we went to see her after like, It was after 12 months of this nonsense, and she had a visor on, everyone had gloves, and she's like, "I just want to hug you." And they're like, "Oh, nobody can make physical contact." And then she ended up dying six months later, not from COVID, I think just from the absolute neglect and isolation that came with it.
	But now, back it up to where you said you consult or you confront your union, and they say, "Don't you care about the residents?" What measures did they implement?
	March 20. March 20, 2020, or give or take there, they announced this.
	Lockdowns, two weeks to flatten the curve.
	What goes on inside the...
	Now I just forgot the word.
	The nursing home.
	Yeah.
	What measures did they implement?
	Well, the nursing home implement, first of all, nobody could come in.
	When we came in, they had to do our vital signs.
	They had to check our temperature twice a shift.
	They had to start taking all the residents' temperature twice a shift.
	But then locked up so nobody can come in.
	Nobody can bring in stuff for their families.
	And we had to start wearing the gowns and the masks for going into every single room.
	But the funny thing is that they were giving us one mask for eight hours and we have these in-services every year.
	That teach us that, you know, if you touch the mask, you got to take it off.
	You got to change it.
	Like, you can't keep a mask for eight hours.
	And to make things worse, they were telling us to regound.
	So, regound.
	You wear a gown, an isolation gown.
	When you go into a room, you're taught that you have to take it off in a certain way.
	Inside out.
	So, you don't touch the outside, you know.
	And you have to put it in a box and never touch it again.
	But now, they were telling us to regound.
	So, they wanted us to...
	Take the gown off, hang it on the door and put it on again.
	So I was really fighting with the union for that.
	Like I was telling the union, like, look at what they're doing.
	And, you know, all the employer was saying was that, you know, if there's a real pandemic, we're going to need more gowns.
	And I was like, well, we're going to, there's going to be a pandemic if we don't use the gowns properly.
	It was just a mess.
	Nothing made sense in there.
	And they started testing us by force every two weeks.
	What was the situation like in terms of equipment?
	Were you short on equipment, the masks you're wearing?
	Are they M95s?
	Are they the stupid blue and white ones?
	No, they were just surgical masks that we wouldn't wear if there was a flu or a virus, like any outbreak.
	So nothing made sense.
	Nothing made sense.
	And the nurses among themselves quietly, are they saying none of this makes sense, but nobody's saying it out loud?
	No.
	I was one of the only ones.
	There was a few, but they were really scared.
	We're really scared.
	And they ended up getting vaccinated and stayed.
	So you go up to your, not superiors, but the union boss and you say, none of this makes any sense.
	And they basically say to you, don't you care about your residence?
	As in, shut up.
	This is all for the greater good.
	And how dare you think that it makes no sense?
	Yes.
	And I started fighting with the employer because they weren't supplying us the proper supplies too.
	So it was a battle everywhere.
	One thing I remember hearing and reporting on, reporting on, talking about early on, is that they said the situation, first of all, 80% of the deaths occurred in or around long-term healthcare facilities, long-term care facilities.
	And one of the reasons that they said the spread within the facilities was so serious is that the employees, infected employees, were circulating from one long-term care facility to another.
	Does that ring any bells or was that accurate at the time?
	We weren't allowed to do that.
	So we can only go to one nursing home.
	And in my nursing home, what happened to make things worse is that three housekeepers, like you said, tested positive.
	No symptoms whatsoever, but a housekeeper goes around all the buildings.
	So now every resident has to stay in their room.
	So now they can't see anyone from the outside, but they can't even come to the dining room.
	They can't get out of their rooms for 14 days until everybody's negative again.
	Right?
	And no one has symptoms.
	And this is what kills these residents.
	Like, it's even more isolation.
	And so anyone that was said to have a behavior that didn't want to stay in their room was said to have a behavior and put on medications.
	Sedated.
	You know, I've seen...
	Residents trying to use their walker to go in the hall.
	Like who the hell are these young kids?
	They think we're like kids, right?
	Telling me I can't go for my walk for a walker.
	Like they become aggressive.
	What does staff do?
	Take away the walker.
	So they can't walk.
	And here they are.
	They lose their ability to walk.
	They're alone in their rooms.
	They're at risk for falls.
	We know what happens when there's hip fractures and it's all downhill.
	It was just a mess.
	And that's when I decided I became a mess.
	Because, like I said, I've done a lot of trauma work.
	And my passion now is mental health.
	But I healed because I learned to stand in my truth.
	And that's how I...
	Stand in my power by standing in my truth.
	So I had to go back in my past, look at the stuff I didn't want to look at, and implement it and bring it back into myself to become whole again.
	And I noticed that every time that I slip away from my truth, I start deteriorating.
	And so you can imagine, here I am holding back.
	I know this is crazy.
	I'm in survival mode because I feel threatened big time.
	I knew from the beginning, I was like, this pandemic is not good news for us at all.
	They're trying to imprison us.
	I go far fast.
	So I wasn't in a good place, and I started deteriorating.
	Like, I was sober.
	I hadn't drank for, you know, almost three years or two years at that point.
	But I started smoking weed again because I couldn't handle it.
	And, you know, it came to the point where I was like, you know what?
	I can't do this anymore.
	I don't care if they kill me.
	Like, you have to think, at this point, no one has spoken.
	No nurses has spoken in Canada.
	So I was scared.
	I'm a single mom of three.
	But it came to the point where I was willing to die.
	I'm like, this is for my kids' future.
	I'm not going to do this.
	I'm not going to be a tool for them.
	And I was like, I'll sell my house.
	And I'll manage.
	I know I've adapted.
	I've gone through so much stuff in my life that I know I can adapt to anything.
	So I was willing to lose everything.
	And so I decided to speak out.
	How quickly after these idiotic procedures were implemented, do you start noticing?
	Residents dying off.
	Right away, within a week.
	And now another thing that I remember reading at the time, and I think it's going to be more accurate than the first observation, the circulating of employees might have been in the public sector, not the private sector.
	But I read somewhere that despite the numbers of deaths out of long-term care facilities, it turns out if it wasn't one in three, it might have been well more than that.
	We're dying not because of COVID, but because of the measures themselves.
	Absolutely.
	So what was your experience in terms of the amount of people dying as collateral damage to the policy versus from COVID itself?
	Well, to me, it was all collateral damage.
	We didn't have COVID where I was.
	It was just all collateral damage.
	And I heard afterwards, after the vaccines, things got really bad.
	Then they started getting COVID and things like that.
	But I wasn't there anymore.
	And I've been reading similar studies as to the deaths following vaccination campaigns in long-term healthcare facilities.
	But I'm not a doctor, so I've got to stay in my own lane.
	So you notice this right away.
	The deaths are not from COVID, but heartache, loneliness.
	What they say kills old people is lack of human interaction.
	And I've seen it and experienced it with my first hand.
	So March 2020...
	Everything's locked down.
	When do you start speaking out and when do you start getting reprimanded or when does the shit hit the fan with your union, your professional order?
	Well, in October 2020, someone at the gym where I went put me in a group.
	So I didn't know there was anybody that thought like me.
	I thought I was alone.
	But then someone put me in a group with like thousands of people that thought like me.
	And I started writing as a nurse, like, ooh, this is what's happening in my nursing home.
	And I got a lot of attention.
	So I felt less alone.
	So I kept doing it.
	And someone in the group was a troll, you know.
	Took pictures of what I was posting, went to my profile.
	My employer information was there.
	I didn't think I was doing anything wrong.
	Even after I got fired, I was like, I'm coming for you guys.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, I didn't do anything wrong.
	But then they put me under investigation, and they weren't telling me why.
	And I'm the union.
	I'm like, I know you have to tell me why I'm under investigation.
	They wouldn't tell me.
	And that's when...
	And at the same time, someone asked me if I wanted to speak out.
	So on the weekend, I went and I spoke out.
	And then on the Monday, they were like, that's it, you're fired.
	The Monday, October 2020, give or take.
	So I spoke out October 31st, and I was fired November 2nd.
	Okay.
	And when they say you're under investigation, it sounds very Kafkaesque.
	What the hell does that mean and what does that entail?
	Do they follow you around?
	Do they file reports?
	Do you even know what that means or do they just tell you that to threaten you?
	I have like five or six investigations.
	I don't even know exactly how many they have on me right now.
	But this investigation...
	Investigations usually is someone complains about you and the college does an investigation.
	But here it's the college that's...
	It has 12 allegations and it's coming against me because...
	So I spoke out and all that.
	And December 16th, they put a gag order on all nurses.
	They sent an email saying that we weren't allowed to...
	Because of me and Kristen Nagel, who is the other co-founder of Canadian Frontline Nurses.
	And we definitely...
	So they said that we weren't allowed to speak.
	Nurses are not allowed across...
	Who's the they?
	Your union or the order?
	Oh, the College of Nurses.
	Okay.
	So there are regulators.
	Okay, and the college says nurses are, it's in a memo, like black on white, you're not allowed to, what, criticize, question?
	We're not allowed to speak at all against the public health mandates or the measures.
	All right, this comes by way of email, letter?
	Yeah, so we're not allowed to talk about the masks, the isolations, the distancing, the vaccine, none of it.
	But we're allowed to post pictures of ourselves taking the shot.
	We're allowed to say the shot's great, but we weren't allowed to say it wasn't.
	It's Orwellian beyond words.
	So you get this letter.
	Now, when you say you were under investigation, was that by the union or by the order?
	No, no.
	The order puts you under investigation.
	And so then you go to the union and you say, look, you've got to tell me what's going on here because you represent us.
	Oh no, the union's gone.
	It was already gone a long time.
	Not only did they not represent me, they were against me.
	And people were like, what?
	And I'm like, people don't realize the union is there to protect us against the employer, but they're not there to protect us against the government.
	They are the government.
	It's amazing.
	My labor law professor at Université Laval, Région Breton.
	You say, man, you know, everyone thinks the labor, the union is there to protect the employer.
	Be on the outs of the union and see how you get treated.
	He was on the outs of the union and yet people don't really fully appreciate the union is a political body.
	So be on the outs of politics.
	The union acts against you and not in support of you.
	Okay, so you're under investigation.
	Let's bring up some of these statements because now we know what you were under investigation for.
	I'm going to go with page number one.
	Is this one right here?
	Let's just see some of these statements because it's so...
	Stupid.
	Hilarious, but okay.
	So they're all October and November, and then we'll go to page two afterwards.
	Public speech YouTube platform.
	I mean, they don't even hide that they're coming after you for First Amendment free speech rights.
	The conduct.
	You stated, quote, wearing a mask is unsafe for anyone, but it has even more detrimental effects on a growing child's brain development due to a decrease in oxygen intake.
	I know that element is disputed.
	I mean, let's say among...
	Not only that, but facial recognition is super important for the social development, and let's not forget that kids wearing masks makes them much harder for us to identify them, making it easier for predators to prey on them.
	October 26, Twitter.
	I'll just read it.
	I'll go a little quicker.
	Very easily understand thinking emoji.
	How harmless COVID is compared to things like cardiovascular disease.
	You seem to be a bit ahead of the curve here, Sarah.
	You posted an image saying, the RT-PCR test being used for COVID involves a cycling function.
	The more you cycle the test material in the lab, the more people test positive for COVID.
	If you cycle the test material 60 times, no one tests positive.
	If you cycle it 30 times, some test positive and some don't.
	This means our corrupt governments have full control of how many people test positive, depending on how many times they insist the test materials be cycled.
	They've picked this test purposely.
	So they can up-regulate or down-regulate the pandemic at will.
	And I can go on, but people can find the full list of that.
	I posted a link on Twitter.
	Some of those things, there might be some elements that might be debatable in there, but the PCR testing, in retrospect, I now understand the criticism that they're saying they're cycling it so much, they're picking up dead virus particles.
	It could be anything, or it could be dead from months ago and you'll still test positive for COVID.
	You make these statements.
	What ends up happening in terms of the chronology and how you find out that you're being investigated for this?
	It took them a while, actually.
	It didn't come right away.
	We actually went to Washington, D.C. on January 6th to speak at a Health and Freedom Summit.
	You know, Del Bigtree had invited us, so we were really excited.
	We thought we were going to speak in front of a lot of people.
	And we kind of got mixed up.
	It was like a block from the Capitol.
	So when we came back, you know, definitely fired right away from my second job.
	And then not too long after that, the investigation came.
	We were detained internationally, called domestic terrorists by some.
	I can't tell you, hundreds of death threats came after that.
	We had the RCMP at our door.
	So kind of crazy.
	So I think it took a while for the first investigation to hit.
	It probably came in March or February of 2021, the first one.
	You said a lot there.
	I'm going to have to pick that apart.
	Who suggested or intimated or stated that you were a domestic terrorist?
	I don't know if it was the National Post or Washington Post.
	It was the media.
	Okay, I'm going to try to find that.
	And so you give the speech.
	You immediately get defamed by whomever, journalists.
	What's the backlash as a result of that?
	You're definitely doxxed, if not identified.
	Yeah.
	Called, basically, you know, at this point, you're beyond granny killer.
	You're now a domestic terrorist.
	Oh, yeah.
	What ends up happening on the personal front?
	I hid in my room for a month.
	I was getting so many death threats, and I have enough trauma as it is, and I just, I was so scared.
	But you know what?
	At the same time, once that calmed down...
	I got so much support.
	Like, honestly, so much support and so much love.
	Because I guess people can find each other.
	But now that we were in the news, the people that were on our side, you know, I hate to say sides, but you know what I mean, actually started, like, coming to me.
	So I thank God, because that really lifted me up.
	And people started giving me money to pay my bills.
	So it was amazing.
	It kept me going, for sure.
	We just kept going.
	Didn't stop us.
	I think I found it here.
	You went to Washington and they likened the trip, creating a super spreader event on top of a domestic...
	Oh, that's on top of a domestic terrorist attack.
	All right, I'll find that article and share it just so people can have a good laugh at your...
	I say laugh at your tragedy or your distress.
	Fired.
	What does that meeting look like?
	They didn't let me come in.
	They just sent me a letter.
	And fired for cause, I presume.
	So the first job I was fired for social media conduct and misconduct.
	And the second job, they just called me and they asked me if I was in Washington and I said yes.
	And they said, we're going to have to let you go.
	It's a very small agency that was actually already...
	Like, almost, like, bankrupt.
	And people are calling them and telling them, you have this nurse working for you, like, where I'm going to take my business away.
	So they just let me go.
	Wow.
	I could have fought that, I guess, but...
	Mother of three, whether...
	I don't know how wealthy anybody has to be to not have this be stressful, but what do you do to make ends meet as this is happening?
	As I said, I was a single mother in debt, like so much debt.
	I was lucky I owned a house, but I mean, I was in so much debt.
	People started giving me money.
	I was going to sell my house.
	I was willing to sell my house and figure it out.
	I started from scratch before.
	I had three kids with a very abusive ex, and they were, I think, eight, two, and one when I was 28 when I left and I started over.
	So I knew I could do it.
	I know that when you do what's right, the right doors open up and you can find ways to adapt.
	So I've been here before, you know, had hard times before.
	So I just thought that I'll figure it out as I go.
	And people just helped me.
	People, as I said, people put money in my bank account.
	I didn't have to sell my house for another year.
	I sold my house January 2022.
	Not to pride, did you sell it to pay legal fees?
	Did you sell it to have money with which to live while you're unemployed and demonized by the media?
	I sold it because I'm a big-time survivor and I thought, I don't want no shackles.
	They're going to come after me.
	They're going to take my house.
	So yeah, I sold my house and took my money out.
	It was the movie Heat.
	You have kids, you can't leave them in 60 seconds, but have you seen the movie Heat?
	No, I will see it though.
	I have to ask now, are you under 35?
	No, I'm going to be 45 on Sunday.
	Shut up!
	Ah, okay.
	Well, you look 35. That's what I was saying.
	Maybe you're too young to have seen the movie Heat.
	You have to watch Heat.
	It's like one of the best crime dramas ever.
	Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, who oddly enough, they're in the same movie.
	They only spend like 30 seconds together in any scene together in the entire movie.
	Violent, dramatic.
	Val Kilmer's in it.
	Oh, a bunch of other great actors.
	But there was a whole line where he says, you know, like, have nothing that you can't drop in 30 seconds.
	And when you have a house and it makes it very difficult if you have to up and...
	Flee a tyrannical government.
	So what ends up happening?
	The order is coming after you.
	When do they issue a formal complaint?
	How does that process work?
	Well, as I said, I think it was February or March because there was so much going on.
	And so I had a lawyer.
	We got lawyers.
	And so my lawyer kind of takes care of all that stuff.
	But it came that the investigation turned into a disciplinary hearing now.
	So they're trying to revoke my license.
	And I can keep talking if you want.
	Yeah, please go for it.
	Yeah.
	And so, and I don't want my license.
	I'm done.
	You know, this is the only investigation that I'm going to fight because now I have investigations.
	Fifth investigation is about my gender ideology.
	I had gender dysphoria as a child because of sexual abuse, but they don't want me to talk about that.
	It's crazy.
	I won't blame everything on Trudeau, but I'll blame a lot on Trudeau.
	It's the trickle-down of tyranny.
	It's 2020.
	Women are equal to men, but somehow a woman can't talk about her own experience.
	Silence.
	Shut up.
	You're not a doctor, but you're a nurse with...
	More experience than most people.
	Shut up.
	Don't talk about it.
	And you have to have the government line, the official line, the big brother line of speak when it comes to very complicated ideological questions.
	Okay, so you're facing one on the gender stuff.
	Was that in the list that we had?
	No, no.
	The list is just for the first investigation.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	But we'll stick to that one because that's the big one.
	That's the one I'm fighting because this is a big...
	And that's when I say to people, I'm not doing this for myself.
	This case has precedence in Canada.
	So this is...
	I'm the example.
	I'm the first one to go.
	Actually, there's other cases waiting, but it seems like they want mine to go through before they go with the rest.
	And so what happens is that...
	And I want people to know, because as you were asking, what do you learn in nursing school?
	The first thing we learn is the code of ethics.
	And in the code of ethics, it says that when the medical industry turns against the people, it is our responsibilities, and I quote, to agitate and advocate for what is best for our communities.
	So I actually did exactly what I was going, I have, I was...
	So I think it's very important because what happens is that by censoring us, they take away the last line of defense between the medical industry and the patient.
	If we can't be patient advocates and we can't give an informed consent, then This creates a lot of harm.
	We saw what happened during the pandemic.
	And this is because nurses are scared to speak.
	We can't speak.
	So this case, if I'm to win this case, it would uncensor nurses across the country.
	But if I lose...
	Then that's it.
	Somebody else can maybe come along.
	But I can tell you, our lawyers have spent over $300,000 in hours.
	This is a big case.
	It was supposed to be seven days.
	Our experts against theirs.
	Now we're at 12 days with no end in sight.
	They cross-examined my first expert for 10 hours to see if he qualifies.
	Who was your first expert?
	I know the crowd is going to know who he is.
	Dr. Pellick.
	Okay, Dr. Peleg.
	Dr. Peleg and Dr. Byron Bridle.
	And when you say they cross-examine, that's what we call a voir dire.
	That's to determine whether or not he can be recognized as an expert before he even testifies on the substance of his testimony as a recognized expert.
	Because if they say you're not an expert, you only have a year of whatever medical training, so we're not recognizing you, no testimony whatsoever.
	Ten hours in voir dire, that's like two days or is that three days?
	Well, it went into three days.
	It was like one day and a little bit of two other days.
	And they ended up not qualifying him for...
	So he's only qualified to cover one and a half of the four things he's supposed to cover.
	So he's not really qualified.
	They're kind of censoring us here.
	The thing is, is that this is the college's court.
	And so I expect to have to take it.
	Further off.
	And I will take it all the way to the Supreme Court if I have to.
	When you say the college's court, this is basically an administrative tribunal.
	This is not the court system as we know it.
	These are these bodies that have been set up under these laws, specialty tribunals.
	They have their magistrates or whatever the hell they call them.
	You know what?
	Hold on.
	We might have to do this.
	We might have to just go over a few more of the statements because it might be more relevant now than ever.
	November 3rd, you posted.
	Did you know those blue masks, mandatory at grocery stores and airplanes, are made of PTFE, a carcinogen made from synthetic fluoride.
	According to Cancer.org, it increases the risk of liver, testicle, pancreas, cancer, all sorts of stuff.
	In Quebec, we got the exposure to the potentially toxic masks that had the graphene particles in them.
	You posted on the picture.
	With the text, new COVID-19 directives for Peel Region, setting up Peel Region's COVID-19 public health directives with the following comment.
	Here we go again.
	Are we just going to sit here and let this happen?
	Do not comply.
	I can't see the state.
	What's written?
	Why is there something on the bottom?
	Disobey.
	By the way, Peel Region, you'll refresh my memory, but I think I'm right about this.
	Wasn't it the Peel Region that said any child that comes into contact with someone who tests positive has to quarantine for 10 days and they're as young as five years old?
	Was that not Peel Region that issued those directives?
	Yes, it was here, yeah.
	That's government-sanctioned child abuse.
	And I remember at the time, whether or not the Facebook or Twitter posts were real, parents were saying, oh, I hear my baby crying in the other room.
	It's breaking my heart, but I slipped the food under the fucking door.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay, so how does it work, though?
	You have your tribunal.
	They say it's going to take this many days, and we have a start date.
	Here.
	Obviously, you get to the start dates.
	I presume a day within the administrative tribunal is like five or six hours.
	You have a one and a half hour break.
	You have your pauses.
	Union workers, so they end at 4:30 on the nose.
	So what was scheduled for seven days is now just going on ad infinitum.
	Yeah, we're on day 12 and with no end in sight.
	My first expert has still not testified.
	What did they limit Pelek's testimony to?
	What was he not allowed to testify on?
	What was he not recognized as an expert on?
	Vaccines.
	But he's like big time an expert on vaccines and the testing.
	I think that was it for him.
	I'm not sure.
	I kind of mixed the two.
	But he's the most experienced person on COVID, expert that you can find on COVID in this country.
	Hold on.
	You know what I'm going to bring up?
	These things called rumble rants, because I noticed there's a question for you in there.
	Let me just see if I can grab these and read through these real quick.
	Okay, there's a lot of questions in here.
	NDG Westbound, so we all know how the good the food was at Capoli's.
	I never ate at Capoli's, but they had the great burgers on them.
	I've never eaten at Capoli's in my entire life.
	Finboy Slick.
	Green Thumb Nursing says, amazing.
	Thank you for having Sarah on Viva.
	Sarah inspired me to get more vocal and speak up as a nurse.
	What does CFLN mean?
	Canadian Frontline Nurses.
	We founded that, and it still is, but we had to pare down.
	We were creating a new healthcare paradigm.
	We were hit with over half a million in lawyer fees, and we had a defamation case and all these things.
	So that kind of is...
	I don't want to say collapsing, but we had to completely pare it down and just make it for legal fees now, unfortunately.
	So, yeah.
	I'm going to ask you about the defamation case after we get through these.
	TOH, the Ottawa Hospital.
	The Ottawa Hospital.
	Prayers to the elderly as we approach the fall.
	That's from Shisco.
	Some people will go to the graves with broken hearts for all we've lived and seen.
	Prayers we heal somehow.
	Failure to thrive.
	Green thumb nursing.
	When I worked in HIV, we would send blood samples that came back undetermined, meaning not negative or positive, for a PCR test.
	Same PCR test used for COVID.
	That was one of my first clues.
	Globin says, always an interesting guest.
	Thanks.
	Did the guest lose EI, pension, license, etc.?
	The license, not yet.
	You're maintaining it for the purposes of these contestations.
	When you got fired, do you get EI?
	Did you lose EI or were you eligible for EI?
	You don't get EI if you get fired.
	Is there a Quebec lawyer fighting for Quebec RNs just asking, Chisco?
	I don't know either.
	I don't think so.
	Well, there is a few because I know a few nurses in Quebec, but I don't know.
	I don't say I don't know as in it's not happening.
	I suspect it is.
	I might want to ask the folks at Rebel.
	They'd probably know quicker.
	The defamation case.
	So that I know drained a lot of funds because you sued.
	Who did you sue for defamation?
	The Canadian Nurses Association.
	So the Canadian, the whole Canadian Nurses Association because they really defamed this and that made so many others.
	And this other smaller news outlet called Together News in Vancouver.
	Because I don't know if you heard about it.
	Probably not.
	But we organized the national hospital protests here, which was huge.
	And that was the second time we were really hit hard by the media.
	It was, like, the biggest national event before the truckers.
	Like, it was amazing.
	And they had to shut that down really fast.
	So they made it sound like we were blocking people, ambulances, blocking people from going to their cancer treatments, spitting on people, all kinds of things came out.
	But, you know, we were called an extremist group.
	And that day...
	Our addresses were leaked.
	We had a bounty put on our heads and things like that.
	So we kind of, with our lawyers, decided that, hey, maybe we should go after these people because they keep doing this to us.
	Because it was a sure win if the courts weren't corrupt like they are.
	How much was the bounty?
	$5,000.
	My goodness.
	I know.
	I was like, no.
	You could only laugh instead of crying, but yes, it should have been more than that.
	What kind of people are they going to get for $5,000?
	I know.
	So you sue for defamation, and we're in Canada.
	Did you sue out of Ontario, or did you sue in British Columbia?
	No, out of Ontario.
	Out of Ontario.
	Defamation is much more plaintiff-friendly in Canada.
	In Quebec, it can qualify as defamation even if the accusations are true or the allegations are true.
	So you sue for defamation and I presume you lost in order to pay legal fees because loser pays.
	Yeah, $315,000.
	Did it get to discovery?
	Did it get dismissed on a preliminary motion to dismiss?
	No, it went through.
	So they said it's not defamatory, or was it substantively true?
	What they did is, the courts are so corrupt, so we were going to, so there's something called a SLAP, and it's an acronym.
	Yes, a Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation.
	There you go.
	And it's supposed to protect small grassroots organizations like us from big corporations that are harming the public.
	And so if we have a message to say, they shouldn't stop us from doing it.
	So we were going to get them under that and they turned around and used that against us and the judge let it through.
	Because the SLAP statutes also have what they call reverse fees if the SLAP statute succeeds.
	They say we're exercising our constitutional rights to say something of public interest on You know, what do they call them?
	Limited purpose public figures.
	And so they say, we're just exercising our constitutional rights.
	So we're going to get your defamation lawsuit dismissed on a slap statute, which they did.
	And then it's got the shifting of legal fees, burden, whatever it's called.
	Oh, well, you guys got screwed hard.
	That's impressive.
	All right.
	And we still have an active case going on with Canadian Frontline Nurses, which is we're the first one to go after the federal government and attorney general for putting up the Emergency Measures Act.
	Okay, so that is a massive, not a distraction in the typical sense, but that's a massive diversion of energy and now dilapidation of funds.
	Yeah.
	Do you appeal it, or is it at some point cutting the losses and saying no?
	We couldn't.
	We couldn't appeal it, and that's kind of why we're paring down and slowly.
	Holy crap.
	But my case, my case with the college nurses was under Canadian Frontline Nurses, and so now I'm just going to keep doing it on my own.
	But they got $300,000 in legal fees?
	Or how much did they get in legal fees?
	That was for legal fees.
	But dismissed in a slap is like a preliminary, it's preliminary-ish.
	You know, it doesn't get to trial.
	How'd they rack up that much fees in that short period of time?
	And they got them all awarded by the judge.
	Yeah, it was a longer, it was more, there was more going on than that.
	I wasn't really following it that much.
	Our lawyers were taking care of it.
	But it was, there was a lot of work put into it.
	So, I don't, you know, I don't even know, honestly.
	That's amazing.
	I'm just putting in a comment here.
	I'm just saying trolls are fine, but spammers get timed out.
	Apparently there's either a troll or a spammer in Rumble.
	That's wild.
	So it gets dismissed on a slap statute.
	Whatever happened in between, you have to pay legal fees, and they're massive.
	That's a shit ton of legal fees.
	And now you're left contesting the order investigation, maintaining your license only to challenge this case.
	Yes, because I think it's very important for the future of healthcare in Canada.
	What is the nursing license?
	Do you have to pay an annual fee to maintain your accreditation?
	Yeah, like $300.
	Okay, the lawyer one was $3,000 and you pay that annually so that the people can file complaints against tweets.
	No, no, it wasn't that much.
	So you're contesting the one investigation, the other ones we'll maybe get to by the end of this.
	Day, whatever we're at, day nine now of this?
	Day 12. When does it resume?
	Are you currently going through it now?
	Three more days that I know of are September 15th, 22nd, and 25th, and the others are still to be announced.
	Okay, so what's the, and what's going on now?
	What's the state of those proceedings, and what's the...
	Economic reality of those issues.
	Well, I need $35,000 right away.
	We had collected money for all of our cases into Canadian frontline nurses.
	We did pretty good a few months back and got $80,000.
	But it had to all go through the defamation because...
	The defamation cost, the people could come through Canadian Frontline Nurses and go get it from the lawyers if it was in anything else.
	But they can't get it if it's in the defamation case because they had the right to get paid to defend us.
	So that means now I have to...
	I'm coming out from under, but I also have to restart collecting the money for my college of nurses.
	And I need like $35,000.
	It was September 8th, but they've...
	Said that as long as I'm still fundraising, I can keep going because we know how important this case is.
	So I'm just trying to collect money anywhere I can and, you know, get people to interview me.
	Thank you.
	And, you know, maybe some people hold fundraisers for it, you know, just looking for any way to keep going.
	I'm going to bring back up, I should say.
	We'll get through the statement slowly but surely.
	November, you posted a link to a video in relation to COVID-19 pandemic titled, Maker of COVID Test says pandemic is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated, with the following comment.
	For those of you who haven't heard recording yet, here's Dr. Hodkinson, maker of the COVID test, stating that the whole pandemic is a hoax.
	Posted a link to a video, COVID-19.
	What does it say here?
	I keep getting asked about the video, so here it is again.
	Ingredients include MRC5, which is aborted fetal tissue.
	Vomiting emoji.
	I love how they put the vomit emoji in there.
	Please always make sure to do your own research, my friend.
	Okay, then you got another one.
	It says, the question on everyone's mind in relation to a video.
	You posted a video in relation to COVID-19 pandemic called Cancel Laced...
	What does that say?
	Cancel Laced Vaccines.
	It's cancer.
	Okay, okay.
	And then the following comment.
	What's MRC5 again?
	Aborted cell tissue.
	Really is.
	You've been injecting this stuff for a very long time, vomit.
	That was one of the issues about the religious objections.
	Whether or not it was in the...
	MRNA shots.
	Right.
	It was in the research that goes into it and some people weren't familiar with that and some people have religious objections to that.
	Exactly.
	What do we got here?
	You posted a statement.
	Reminder, as nurses we took an oath to do no harm.
	Promoting and advertising taking an experimental unsafe vaccine is a crime against humanity in direct conflict with the oath.
	You posted a video here.
	Dr. Lee Merritt, you posted a video.
	25 questions to ask people who still believe that we are in a pandemic.
	So those are the statements.
	Yeah.
	I want to know a little bit more.
	Hold on, I'm going to bring back the screen here.
	It's not possible to do this if you don't get the funds.
	Do you do this pro se or do you represent yourself?
	What would happen to the disciplinary hearings that are currently underway?
	I definitely can't represent myself because it's a huge case with the experts.
	And I don't even know.
	My lawyer has been, like, it's been over a year of work on this.
	I can't believe how much he knows.
	I don't even understand sometimes what they're saying.
	It's so complicated medically.
	They go in so far.
	So, I mean, at first I thought I was going to represent myself and just be like, hey, you guys can't do this to us.
	But it's a lot more complex than that.
	They had their three or four.
	Three experts already.
	Three or four.
	I think it's three.
	I can't do it on my own.
	I would just lose.
	So this way, we have more chances of winning.
	It's atrocious.
	We're watching it happen in real time to Jordan Peterson.
	It's a celebrity status, so it gets a lot of attention.
	Maybe arguably a little simpler of a case to litigate because one is hurtful words.
	This actually requires expert testimony.
	But even if you prevail, or let's say you lose on the administrative tribunal, then the idea would be you'd have to ask the actual courts to intervene and review the decision of these specialty tribunals, which they're very reluctant to do in the first place.
	Yes.
	So you're kind of like...
	Kind of screwed one way.
	Screwed, I think.
	I mean, I don't see the order, you know, giving you reason.
	I'm using franchisisme.
	No, yeah.
	We don't expect it to win at this level, but we will appeal it.
	So that's when it's going to go to the courts.
	Okay, that's correct.
	And now, so, you're experts.
	Pellick and Corey.
	What's Corey?
	No, no, Dr. Pellick and Dr. Byron Bridal.
	Sorry, Dr. Byron Bridal.
	What's Bridal supposed to testify on?
	Immunization.
	Pretty much, they both cover everything, honestly.
	He also goes, he hasn't done it yet, but he also covers the masks.
	Now, I don't want to ask questions that might tip the hat to what you're going to adduce as evidence.
	They've prepared expert reports, I presume, already?
	Oh, yes, yes.
	Because they cannot testify unless they have an expert report to testify on.
	The conclusions of their respective expert reports, can you tell us that?
	That's already been disclosed, right?
	That's disclosed to the other parties.
	Yes, and the reports were accepted, so I was kind of surprised that the actual expert is not.
	No, I think there might be some procedural stuff where they accept the reports, but they're not evidence until the expert can come in and present them to himself.
	Let me see here.
	There's a question for you.
	There's two questions.
	Dismissed on SLAP.
	I have heard of lawyers in Canada not disclosing relationships and screwing clients in front of judges by mishandling cases.
	Is there a possibility of investigating?
	I don't want to...
	It is all the same ones.
	It is all the same ones.
	I really trust my lawyers.
	We've gone through several.
	We've had a hard time.
	I love my lawyer and I love the work he's doing.
	You were out of the long-term healthcare facilities.
	As of November 2020, so not even a year into the pandemic.
	Yeah.
	And what's, I mean, I think you touched on it, but what sort of, what sort of thing, I mean, what were the worst things that you had seen happen in there?
	Well, people dying alone, like, and feeling so abandoned and just people scared to be alone, left alone.
	It was just disgusting.
	Not letting families in when people are dying.
	I don't know.
	Medicating people who were fighting.
	I was like, I would be that person.
	I was fighting inside.
	I couldn't breathe.
	I had seen a picture.
	Tell me if you had seen this.
	It was a rubber glove filled with hot water that allegedly they were putting on the hands of elders.
	Is it true or is that just an internet urban legend?
	I didn't see that.
	But I heard of people that said that they've seen it.
	Happening here in Canada, because I've spoken to a lot of nurses and people are like, yeah, people are doing this.
	Early on, Justin Trudeau donated tons of PPP to China, knowing this was PPE, not PPP.
	That's a public-private partnership versus protective personal equipment, whatever it is.
	Did you hear from other nursing homes, public institutions, that they were lacking on essential PPE?
	Yeah, everyone was lacking.
	We were definitely lacking.
	And I told you they wanted us to re-gown and we were allowed to one...
	I had to fight, you know, and to get gowns and masks.
	And because I was fighting, my floor was getting it when I was there, but I was informed that other floors weren't.
	And as soon as I wasn't there, my floor wasn't getting it neither.
	So it was just everywhere.
	Unbelievable.
	You're shutting down the place for a pandemic, but you're not letting us wear the proper equipment to protect these people?
	Like, that's crazy.
	None of it makes sense unless you have the most sinister of underlying views of what the motivation was.
	If you do not attribute this to malice, but only incompetence...
	It's what I call fractal wrongness, where basically everything they did at every step was wrong.
	And then the question is, at some point, fractal wrongness is no longer incompetence.
	It can only be explained by malice.
	Okay, so look, where can people help you if they want to help you?
	The links are in there, but what can they do to help you?
	Yeah, so people can donate.
	Do you want me to save the links?
	Yeah, go for it.
	Let me just make sure that I'm going to go to the description.
	I'm pretty sure it's in the description as well.
	Okay.
	The give send goes in the description.
	Let me just make sure the link is correct.
	Okay, there you go.
	It's in there.
	Okay, so there is giftsandgo.com slash forward SOS underscore F-O-R underscore Sarah, S-A-R-A-H.
	And also e-transfers could be sent.
	People usually like that better.
	So it's Sarah's C-N-O case at hotmail.com.
	S-A-R-A-H-S C-N-O C-A-S-E at hotmail.com.
	But I didn't say it yet.
	But as I said, we're not, as you said, probably not going to win at this level.
	And we want to take it up higher.
	And a lot of people tell me, well, why are you wasting money?
	Why are you wasting your time?
	And I just think it's the right thing to do and it needs to be done.
	We need to at least try.
	So my lawyer made it clear to me that I can't just be doing it because I want to win because that might not happen.
	One of the big reasons why we're doing this is to bring public awareness that how corrupt these people are.
	So we need for people to actually watch the hearing because it's so corrupt.
	Like people would not believe it.
	They're mad at me.
	They're censoring me.
	It's a public hearing.
	They want people to email at hearingsadministrationgroup at cnomail.org, but they're blocking people.
	They're not answering.
	They've told people they don't have to approve them.
	And so people are not getting the links.
	And that's one of the big problems.
	One of the important things that we want is that we want more public awareness because as we go up in the courts, and probably it'll be harder for them to censor me there, but as we go up, we want more and more public awareness because judges tend to lean towards what the public wants.
	And if the public sees what is happening, they are going to be...
	Really pissed off.
	Not to be the cynic of all cynics.
	Oh, I get it.
	Watching this administrative tribunal, it's going to be more boring than watching paint dry, because at least when people watch paint dry, you can understand what's going on.
	Watching court, nobody understands procedurally what's going on.
	It's painfully, painfully boring.
	I've had someone told me that this was better than a Spanish soap opera.
	That's if they have a base understanding and can figure out what's going on.
	I'm telling you, the toxicology expert, their toxicology expert comes in at 9.30 in the morning, and he's talking about toxicology drinking a Diet Coke.
	No, I mean, everybody knows Diet Coke causes cancer.
	It's a joke.
	Like, the whole thing is a joke.
	No, and it's also like, and then the other thing is it's just, there's too much, like, nobody's going to watch this for multiple.
	I was involved in a case, a Régie du logement case, like a rental board, that it was someone complaining that there were volatile organic compounds.
	The house was making them nauseous.
	We had experts, mold experts.
	We had VOC experts.
	The thing went on for like 16 days before the Régie over the course of 18 months.
	I mean, I thought it was the most interesting thing on earth.
	The reality is it's dry, boring, but the impact of this case, it's up there with Jordan Peterson's.
	People might make distinctions in terms of one being science-based, the other one just being pure opinions issued on social media.
	But people have to be sensitive if they're not going to go watch the whole thing to share it and raise awareness because this is weaponizing the board of psychiatrists, whatever the heck that order is called.
	The Order of Nurses.
	They're doing it with lawyers.
	And basically what is the ultimate outcome of this is that the government and whatever they want to be government policy dictates medical treatment, medical advice, psychiatric advice, legal advice, and you basically subordinate all of these.
	What are supposed to be independent masters of their file practitioners to the diktats of the government.
	And if you don't do what government wants, they're going to come after you, go after your license.
	And some people need it.
	Some people want to preserve it.
	Jordan Peterson doesn't need it, doesn't care about it.
	You have made the decision.
	You no longer care about it.
	What are you doing for a living now?
	Well, I do mental health, so I do lighting up their corners.
	So I empower people to go to the root cause of their mental health issues instead of numbing with medications.
	And I show them how to do that.
	See, I don't believe in the patient mentality that the medical industry has where people are victims and they need something from the outside to come and heal them and it's very disempowering and your body doesn't know what it's doing.
	I believe that people are active participants in their care and when they're ready to heal, then there's nothing you can't do and that's when we step in and educate and guide.
	So I have programs that give people the tools and knowledge they need to start their healing journey, reconnect to their true self so that they can be empowered and become strong individuals that don't stand up for crap.
	What's the website for that, Sarah?
	You have to have a...
	LightingUpDarkCorners.com.
	Yes, thank you.
	Say it again.
	Say it again.
	LightingUpDarkCorners.com.
	I think that's good.
	Yeah.
	LightingUpDarkCorners.com for people who are listening on podcast after this.
	Yes.
	All right.
	Well, look, it's the righteous fight.
	I was reading through your statements.
	I'm like, are we in grade school?
	First of all, Some of them, you know, the compound statements, you might disagree with one element of it, and then another element might be not disputable anymore.
	But the idea that they want, I mean, it's controlling free speech of practitioners on social media platforms, not in the practice of their profession even.
	And it's also sanctioning and crushing political dissidents.
	I mean, that's what you are.
	That's what you made yourself out to be.
	Yes.
	And they've even said, they've even said, everything I said is now known to be truth.
	But when I said it, I had no way of knowing it.
	And that's the problem.
	I think, I don't know.
	Do you watch Scott Adams?
	No.
	Yeah.
	At one point, there was a fight where he said, look.
	People might have gotten it right, like, because some of us took the jab.
	Some of us, had we known then what we know now, you'd have to tie us down and sedate us to get us to take it.
	But some people were saying, like, you got it right, but you got it right by luck or for the wrong reasons.
	Or, you know, you couldn't have known that you were right at the time, even though you ended up being right, which is a loser thing to some extent.
	But one thing's for certain.
	The government has gotten it at least wrong at every stage of the process.
	And they correct.
	So they say both A and not A. So in the long run, they can say, look, we said not A, even though at one point we said A, like masks are useless, masks are necessary.
	Back to masks didn't do anything.
	Will we learn a lesson?
	Yes.
	Amazing.
	Sarah, everybody knows.
	Is there anything we didn't get into?
	We could have done more childhood stuff.
	I think as far as your legal plight goes.
	People now know about it.
	So this is the absolute state of Canada.
	They're coming after the professional orders and they want to silence ideological dissidents, suppress free speech, and then pretend that they never coerced people or required people to take this jab, which, as I'm going to explain after we're done here, they knew.
	No long-term safety.
	Cannot guarantee long-term safety data because they don't have it.
	Sarah, it's been...
	Oh, sorry, go ahead.
	Sorry, I just wanted to add this funny thing.
	My last investigation, which I think is the sixth, or I don't know if the fifth or sixth are together, but is that they are upset that I'm talking about my public hearing on social media.
	They want to...
	Beat you and then shut you up so that you can't even complain about the abuse.
	They're doing it in the States.
	What we're witnessing, I hate to say, I'm going to say it in the Alex Jones voice, we're witnessing an attempt at the globalization of tyranny.
	It's like they're doing the same thing in Canada that they're doing in certain parts of the States.
	This was a Milgram experiment in how to take full control over a society and they seem to be winning.
	Much to my dismay.
	Sarah, thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	Ordinarily, I'd end and we'd say our proper goodbyes, but I'm carrying on.
	Robert Krejcik is coming on to talk about Tamara Lich's trial in 13 minutes, give or take.
	So, Sarah, thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	Have a great day.
	Be well.
	Talk to you soon.
	Take care.
	Bye.
	Bye-bye.
	Oh, God, I cut her out soon.
	Hold on.
	What did you say?
	What did you say?
	I said love and light.
	Thank you.
	Bye.
	All right.
	Have a good night.
	Cut her out three seconds too early.
	All right, people.
	That's one aspect of the insanity of what's going on in Canada.
	Let me just tell Robert, pop in whenever you're ready, period.
	Better in landscape, period.
	Now, before we get to Robert Krejcik, who's going to talk about the other political persecution out of Canada, I have ceased losing my temper with people who say Tamara Lich is getting what she deserves.
	They're a bunch of...
	I stopped.
	I no longer believe that they're actual real humans.
	Like, I want to make the joke, that mother effer is not real.
	I'm convinced they're bots.
	I'm convinced they are AI-generated bot accounts that just auto-generate replies.
	And I'm sort of being not even sarcastic here.
	Some of them I know are real people.
	They're just assholes.
	But others, I believe, sincerely are either bona fide trolls who only get ecstasy from...
	Negative engagement, like the children who didn't get enough attention from their parents and now they find a way to get attention on the internet by saying stupid, heartless things.
	But I also believe a substantial portion are just fake AI.
	They just generate comments that they know will get engagement.
	I'm convinced.
	So they're either bots or assholes, and one way or another, I'm done.
	It's mute if I am thoroughly convinced they are not sincere interlocutors and never reading it again.
	So when people say Tamar Litch is getting what you deserve, it drives me nuts.
	But I am putting into practice the serenity prayer, which is give me the wisdom, give me the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom, so the things I can change, oh, give me the courage to change the things I can change.
	The patience to...
	Accept the things I can't and the wisdom to tell the difference.
	I screwed it up, but I know what it means.
	Anyhow, with that said, my brother pulled up.
	No, he didn't pull it up.
	This is my brother's lying advocacy on Twitter.
	South Africa, there was a FOIA request to try to get the government contract for the purchase of the jibby jab, the jabs.
	We'll not call it a vaccine because it's not.
	This particular jab for COVID is not a vaccine.
	It doesn't work.
	It's not safe.
	And we're now seeing it.
	But by the way, This was in the contract between the government and Pfizer, the purchase contract.
	And I'll read it, because it complements well with what Sarah was just talking about.
	Purchaser acknowledgments.
	I believe the purchaser is the government of South Africa in this particular case, but you can take for granted that all...
	Contracts between governments and Pfizer and Moderna contained a similar provision.
	Don't you love it?
	They had to initial the pages.
	Imagine these government officials and these El Chapo drug dealers sitting down and they got to sign, they got to initial each page of the document.
	I'll read it out loud and I'm going to read it, not in the British golfer voice.
	Purchaser acknowledges that the vaccine and materials related to the vaccine, capital V, and their components and constituent materials are being rapidly developed due to the emergency circumstances of the COVID-19 pandemic and will continue to be studied after provision of the vaccine to purchaser under this agreement.
	Will continue to be studied?
	Do you know what that is?
	That's called human experimentation.
	I mean, it's right there in the purchase agreement.
	We're going to continue to study this as we implement it to billions of people.
	I mean, Obama said it.
	He was so eloquent when he said it.
	Well, we've now clinically trialed, clinically tested on billions of people.
	They're going to continue to study after the provision of the vaccine to purchase her under this agreement.
	After it's going into the arms of Canadians, South Africans, people across the world, we're going to continue to study to see, you know, if people start dying from, I don't know, unknown causes.
	Excess mortality.
	We'll see if excess mortality goes up.
	And then if it does, we'll say you're all crazy.
	Varus system is worth nothing.
	That's not the best part.
	Purchaser further acknowledges that the long-term effects and efficacy of the vaccine are not currently known and that there may be adverse effects of the vaccine that are not currently known.
	Further, to the extent applicable, purchaser acknowledges that the product shall not be serialized.
	Why would they not want to serialize it, by the way?
	Let's get there in a second.
	They acknowledge long-term effects and efficacy are not currently known.
	Safe and effective.
	We just don't know what the long-term effects are.
	Why?
	There may be adverse effects of the vaccine that are not currently known.
	Safe and effective.
	Pregnant mothers, breastfeeding mothers, stick it in your body.
	Young adults with virtually no risk to the Rona itself, stick it in your body.
	We don't know what it's going to do to your ovaries, your testicles.
	We don't know what it's going to do for cancer patients who are in remission.
	We don't know yet.
	But the government that acknowledges in a contract that it initialed and that it signed behind closed doors, it doesn't know what the long-term effects and efficacy are.
	There may be adverse effects that are not currently known, but we're telling you it's safe and effective and we are coercing you to inject it into your being.
	You expect me not to be pissed off about this?
	I can't say that I wasn't warned at the time, and I have to live with my own ignorance.
	That doesn't mean I can't be outraged about it.
	Oh, by the way, yeah.
	Further, to the extent applicable, purchaser acknowledges that the product shall not be serialized.
	I'll just ask the chat.
	Why do you think they would not want the product to be serialized?
	Might it make it a little more easy?
	To track adverse reactions by batch, by serial numbers?
	I'll ask the chat.
	Oh, now I see Robert Krejcik is in the backdrop.
	Dude, let me see.
	I'm not going to bring him in yet.
	I'm just going to, yeah.
	Looking swole, looking very, yeah.
	When I saw Robert at the protests, dude is working out.
	I don't know if I, he's working out.
	He's looking good.
	Okay.
	So Robert Krejcik, Rebel News, covering Tamar Litch's trial.
	Looks like he's outside the courthouse.
	You good to go?
	Thumbs up?
	Too late.
	I'm bringing him in.
	I can't hear him.
	Have you stopped?
	Yeah, I still can't hear him, man.
	You can't hear me.
	Oh, I can't hear anything.
	Do you know why?
	I would say go to your...
	I can't hear you.
	Oh, hold on.
	I'm an idiot.
	Refresh.
	Are we muted?
	Yeah.
	Unmute?
	Okay, well, let me see.
	I didn't mute him.
	He should be able to hear me.
	Anyways, Robert is coming.
	I thought...
	I thought...
	Okay, hold on a second.
	Let me see if he's going to come back in.
	It's definitely not me because you guys hear me.
	Oh, was I done railing against the...
	Let me go to the chat and see if the chat has any ideas as to why they would not want the serial numbers on it.
	People were forced into getting these experiments.
	Threatening job loss or anything else is forced, says Ooga Booga.
	You are allowed to be mad, says L. Reed, 1979.
	79 is my birthday.
	Freeland got yelled at when she was sitting on a bench talking on the phone.
	Warmed my heart, says Ruth Elizabeth.
	A well-deserved rant, says Dog Digger.
	Okay, let's see if we got Kraychik back.
	Kraychik.
	I know someone named Kraychik, but it was spelled differently.
	Let me see here.
	It's Black Scream.
	Okay, now I see him.
	Let me see him in here.
	Can you hear me now?
	I can hear you.
	I'm just not using headphones this time.
	That's better.
	That's better.
	All right, man.
	First of all, Dude, you must get, you get the Rogan reference more often than not.
	Do you not?
	Yeah.
	You're looking, I mean, dude, you're looking good.
	I remember seeing you in person.
	And yeah, okay, so I'll stop flattering you now.
	Your last name is Krejcik or Krejcik?
	It's transliterated from Ukrainian, so Krejcik, but I'll turn my head into it.
	By the way, I love flattery, so don't feel like you're overdoing it, you know?
	Well, I'll say this.
	I don't know that I want to be as muscular as you are because you have to...
	You have to keep that muscle exercised.
	You have to keep it maintained.
	It's like you got a high-octane energy that I'd rather have, like, maybe a 4V that I don't have to put quite such high-value gas into.
	But, yeah, you're looking swole, I believe, is how the young people say.
	Thanks, brother.
	Back at you.
	I think you look great, too.
	And you know what?
	You can do seasonality.
	A little bit here, a little bit there.
	You can't have it all in life.
	I go with the strong heart, well, the strong heart, like the cardio.
	Let me bring up your volume a little bit because it might be a little low.
	All right, Robert, so you are in.
	The Capital Nacional.
	You're in Ottawa City right now, correct?
	That's right.
	You're covering this trial every day?
	Every day.
	Dude, that's nuts.
	First of all, there might be people who don't know who you are.
	I took that for granted.
	Who are you?
	30,000-foot overview.
	Let the crowd know.
	Well, born and raised in Ottawa.
	I've never needed a red pill.
	I've always been on the side philosophically.
	I've only become more, for lack of a better word, hardcore over time.
	In other words, reaffirming.
	Over time, as I get older, that my initial assumptions, how I was helped, was always right.
	Now, professionally, I was with Daily Wire for a couple of years, Breitbart four and a half years, and now with Rebel News for several months.
	And this will become a new thing because videos where it's at and doing videos with Rebel News is really, like, ideal for me.
	I'll tell you, like, you know, there's a cycle of life.
	Things that were cool back in the day are now coming back into style.
	We used to have court TV.
	There used to be, like, you used to watch judges, you used to watch court, and they used to have LA Law.
	Then it turned into drama.
	But now it's going back to, like, the reality base.
	People just want to know what's going on.
	They want to see what's going on, and they need people to be there when they can't be there.
	I would have loved to have been there.
	I don't think I could be there.
	Six-week trial, Robert?
	Sorry, six-week trial?
	Oh, is it a six-week trial?
	I think it's tentatively scheduled for like three or four weeks.
	Although, of course, there's openness to extension in the event of need.
	All right, man.
	So you're there from day one.
	You're going to be there the entire time.
	You're in Ottawa, so I guess it makes it easy.
	Tell us what is going on.
	This is Tamara Leach and Chris Barber on trial for mischief, incitement of mischief.
	What else are they on trial for?
	So, obstructing police.
	Here, it's going to be very interesting for you particularly, given your own experiential and professional pedigree with your epic and legendary live streams here in Ottawa.
	And for those in the audience that have sort of been with you across that time, this will just feed into that.
	So there's this continuity that's very interesting, and you'll have unique insights into as well, given that a lot of the prosecution's claims relate to things that they claim occurred during the course of the Freedom Convoy, which people like yourself Have accurate.
	So I'll be specific with you.
	The opening statement from the prosecution included the description of the Freedom Convoy is, quote, anything but peaceful.
	Now, for those of us like yourself who are here all the time, you almost overdosed on hugs.
	You almost overdosed, really, on good vibes.
	People were like in a good mood to see each other because we were so demoralized for so long.
	Oh, you can't do Christmas.
	With more than two people.
	You can't mourn your dead loved ones at a funeral.
	You can't do or bar mitzvah or women giving birth in masks.
	Madness.
	So the Freedom Convoy contrasted that.
	Now, here's what's interesting.
	I'll get specifics in a moment, but the prosecution thus far has, in my view, only undermined its claim by presenting evidence supposedly of criminality that undermines that very claim.
	Of this demonstration being, again, quote, "Anything but peaceful." The idea, first of all, the opening statements being, I never practiced criminal law, but they're supposed to, you know, set out what they're going to prove and avoid certain types of statements, starting it off with anything but peaceful.
	Well, my goodness, A, it's stupid.
	I'm not sure how proper or improper it is, but it'll be easy to disprove that.
	Especially considering crime went down in Ottawa during the protest.
	So unless they mean honking is not peaceful.
	Anything but peaceful.
	Who's the prosecutor?
	It's not...
	Who's the prosecutor?
	Do you know?
	Yeah, the guy's name is Tim Radcliffe.
	And there's another lady with him.
	Okay.
	Oh, you cut out a little bit there.
	And are they...
	If I were there, I'd be going nuts because this is like people who take themselves way too seriously making a mountain of a molehill is the understatement.
	They're in front of a judge.
	This is a judge trial, not a jury trial, correct?
	That's right.
	Okay.
	And they're in front.
	Is the judge looking at them like, what the fuck are you doing here on mischief charges with a four-week trial?
	Or is the judge like, this was a January 6th assault on Ottawa?
	Or is the judge not letting off any vibe whatsoever?
	She hasn't used any expletives yet.
	She's closer to your former description than the latter.
	All of her interjections thus far have been reflective of All right.
	Now, if I may ask, not that it changes anything, the judge, as a woman, elderly, young, white, black...
	White lady, middle-aged.
	My concern, Robert, as having practiced, some people might not know this.
	I practiced actively for 13 years.
	You never know which way to go because the judge might be being critical to be objective so that she can then come down on the defendant and say, look, I was critical.
	But I say, to me, it's objective.
	This is all a load of horse shit.
	Steaming pile of horse shit.
	We're in day...
	What day is it today?
	It's Thursday.
	Day four now?
	Day three?
	No, because Monday was Labor Day.
	Okay, that's true.
	This is the third day.
	So day three, and what stage are we at now?
	Prosecution is presenting its case.
	The prosecution is still calling witnesses and presenting evidence.
	And in the event of a witness, there's always a witness even attached to evidence.
	The producer of the evidence will be some sort of police officer.
	And it's followed by cross-examination from the defense.
	Well, there's two defense attorneys, one representing Tamara Leach, one representing Chris Barber.
	So that's the process.
	Prosecution presents evidence, whether it's a video or testimony from a police officer.
	And then, I guess, in that prosecution laying out its case stage.
	Did the judge in the beginning ask anything or did the defense defendants make any statements about not A conflict of interest in terms of potentially turning on each other?
	Did the judge make sure that they are not going to turn on each other in terms of the defense?
	Or did they have to make any statements of no conflict of interest?
	That's an interesting question.
	I don't know how to precisely answer that, but I do know that there was a specific mention from the prosecution initially, and what seemed to be accepted, statements from Tamara Leach would be introduced as evidence against Chris Barber.
	And statements from Chris Barber would be introduced as evidence against Tamara Leach.
	Okay, interesting.
	The prosecution, have they announced or provided a list of their witnesses?
	Do we know what to expect in terms of how long they're going to go on for?
	They did provide a list.
	I don't recall the expected timeline.
	But yeah, apparently there's been reasonably good disclosure.
	There have been some instances where...
	We're both saying, hey, I didn't get this, let's clarify that, but nothing substantive, nothing substantial.
	Is this your first time sitting in live on a court trial?
	In a criminal court case, yes, although I was recently attending this tribunal for Constable Helen Bruce.
	If you guys want to check out on our Rebel News, we did some coverage on that.
	She was an auto police officer currently being charged, again, charged not criminally, but internally through the disciplinary process of the auto police service with misconduct for the...
	heinous crime of investigating any possible linkage between of infant deaths in Ottawa and possible vaccine status.
	Yep, that's Jason Levine had interviewed Donald Best, I think, on YouTube.
	Got his channel nuked for that.
	Gru is an RCMP officer who was involved in investigating infant deaths, was investigating whether or not there was a link between the jab and SIDS, accessed or was looking into the vaccination status of the mothers, and then got sanctioned for it, and they're actually going full hog with that.
	So are you covering that one for Rebel News as well?
	Yes.
	There's a delay right now.
	They did five days, and they'll resume somewhere in early October.
	So when that continues, I'll be back.
	It's outrageous.
	I don't know if it was supposed to end after five days, but this is how it works.
	If you go past your original date, the judge is slated for other hearings, and so you have to find the next opening in the judge's schedule.
	Everybody's got to get prepared back in advance.
	When they come back in two months, it's not like everything's fresh in your memory.
	Absolute waste of resources.
	Okay, so in this case now, has anything hilarious, anything shocking happened, anything that stood out in terms of the prosecution's presentation of the case for one reason or the other?
	It depends on your sense of humor, but I'll tell you what you need to know.
	I'll tell you the major takeaways.
	Now, what happened on day one?
	On day one, the major piece of evidence that was introduced by the prosecution was this montage video, about 11 and a half minutes, produced and compiled by a police officer whose job it was to help the prosecution investigate this crime, and he went through what he said was hundreds of hours of footage.
	Now, you talk about waste of resources.
	Contemplate paying a guy, police officer, probably $100 plus K a year, $100 plus K benefit package on top of that by retiring when he's 50 feet.
	You know what I'm saying?
	This kind of guy, like 20 vacation days a year probably, he's getting paid to help destroy Tamara Leach and help destroy Chris Barber by going through the footage.
	Now, why was the footage newsworthy?
	Because you would think that the prosecution wants to come out in an opening salvo with this big hit.
	Look at this awful protest.
	I'll speak for myself, although I know you're with me on this.
	If you would have watched that video, your heart would have been warmed because it took us back to this amazing time of peaceful protest.
	And nothing in that video, by the way, literally, I watched the whole video.
	I was there in the courtroom.
	Nothing in the video demonstrated anything violent except, of course, from law enforcement towards protesters.
	So the video itself, again, undermined the central claim.
	It was very unimpressive, let's put it that way.
	Hold on, let me stop you there.
	Did any of my footage make it into that montage?
	No, they were using mostly body...
	Hey, you know what?
	I will tell you this.
	I was looking for my buddy.
	My buddy was captured on some of the video, but the video itself was all composed of body cam footage captured by police officers on the scene and aerial drone footage from Ottawa police services.
	By the way...
	Again, resources spent.
	The Ottawa Police Service spent a lot of money surveilling and monitoring this protest.
	You know, you can have a different point of view whether that was legitimate or not, but tons of money spent on that.
	No, I remember being there and you'd see drones in the sky, multiple drones.
	I remember seeing snipers on roofs, which made me feel very, very safe.
	So they put together this dumbass montage to try to make it look like the most violent January 6th type thing on Earth.
	And...
	And then they get into their witnesses.
	How many witnesses have they called up to now?
	I think three so far, but let me tell you about the first witness.
	The first witness was the police officer who created that compilation video, who again sat for how many hours at his desk getting paid to produce this.
	And when he was asked if he had seen violence at the protest from demonstrators, he said no.
	Furthermore, The second witness came on the second day.
	The second witness was so-called...
	I forget the name of the title.
	They have these obscure titles.
	But he was the top logistics guy for the auto police service in terms of their response to this demonstration.
	So he was basically the chief liaison, let's say, to negotiate with the demonstrators in terms of what he's maintaining.
	Public safety, okay?
	Now, two things that were interesting from him is that he said that his discretion as a negotiator was basically entirely rescinded by his superiors, and he wasn't sure how high up the food chain that directive came from.
	Here's the quote.
	He was told that not one inch, that's the quote, should be conceded to the demonstrators under any circumstance.
	He speculated in testimony that he thinks that that directive came from then...
	Police Chief Peter Slowly.
	Slowly, yeah.
	And we know anyone who paid attention to the news surrounding this event understands that Peter Slowly didn't do anything independently.
	There was a total centralized approach here.
	Jim Watson, who was the mayor at the time of Ottawa, was on TV every day talking about what he was doing.
	And remember, the police chief answers to him.
	Justin Trudeau was on TV every day talking about his coordination with responsible and relevant authorities.
	I wish that would get investigated more, but I'm sure that this directive of the PMO, the Prime Minister's office, certainly involves Jim Watson, but that was something that didn't chase down.
	But the bottom line is this, that he said on stand that the removal of his discretion to negotiate, what did he want to negotiate?
	He wanted to offer some sort of...
	So, in other words, that increased the negative impact on the city.
	So, what's the conclusion?
	Government policy exacerbated the very impacts on the city that the government every day was saying they sought to mitigate.
	Sounds exactly like their response to COVID at large.
	It sounds like...
	No, no.
	It sounds like government at large.
	I was going to say that that was the next step to the humorous reality.
	Not one inch.
	That's very interesting.
	Does the judge take cognizance or has the findings of Commissioner Rouleau?
	The commission there to look into the invocation.
	Has that come up yet in the court case?
	It's not been mentioned.
	I wouldn't expect if it did come up, but that's not been mentioned yet.
	Okay.
	So you got one authority coming in and saying, I was told not one inch as a result of my hands being tied and not being able to coordinate to minimize the footprint of this occupation.
	It ended up exacerbating the situation and you can come to whatever conclusion you want.
	Did they ask anybody what they meant by mischief or what mischief they witnessed?
	No, actually, that term hasn't been defined, but let me add you one more detail from this liaison officer's testimony.
	He was asked by both defense counsels repeatedly, was there any violence from protesters against police officers?
	No.
	He also said on the stand repeatedly that emergency lanes remained open.
	On all the roads upon which the Freedom Convoy trucks were of a segment of Wellington right in front of Parliament Hill.
	So that segment where there were a bunch of huge trucks, generally speaking, did not have emergency access.
	There was no capability for, you know, fire trucks, ambulances in the event of need.
	But all the other streets, emergency lane was maintained.
	Furthermore, access to parliament, this is his testimony, access to parliament for parliamentarian senators, members of parliament remained protected.
	Open.
	Okay?
	So, again, his own testimony is undermining that central claim that the demonstration was, again, quote, any prosecution, again, undermining its own case across the board.
	You know, and it would have been great if they said, yeah, the roads were blocked.
	I remember being there and seeing a fire truck come through.
	It was the one street down from Wellington parallel.
	A fire truck came blazing through so fast, it wasn't the issue that it was obstructed.
	It was that it was going too fast given who was there.
	And then the violence.
	I mean, if they said that there was violence towards police officers, how many times did I ask cops on the street, have you seen any violence?
	Have you seen any vandalism?
	And they all unequivocally said no.
	All right.
	How does, well, what else?
	Any other men?
	Of course.
	So, today was the third day.
	Why was today no birthday?
	Because today, presented as evidence by the prosecution, was a series of videos produced by Chris Barber on TikTok, in which he was messaging from the convoy, presumably to his supporters, or anyone who would listen.
	Of course, it wasn't private.
	Anyone could access it.
	And again, these videos are supposed to be evidence assisting the prosecution towards a conviction.
	But what is Chris Barber saying in virtually all of these videos?
	Guys, come down to peaceful.
	He used that word peaceful over and over in most of these videos.
	He kept emphasizing peaceable assembly.
	He used terms like hugs and smiles, was reflecting on the atmosphere that you shared with your audience during your epic and legendary live streams.
	You weren't the only one who saw that.
	There were tens of thousands of people who saw that.
	I saw that.
	I was here every day.
	So the videos themselves from Chris Barber, his emphasis on peaceful assembly.
	His emphasis on the overall vibe.
	He kept using the word love.
	Even his own demeanor, even though this is subjective analysis, I'm telling you 99 out of 100 people would agree with my assessment.
	He was sort of jovial and charismatic.
	He's not angry or bitter.
	I would be way more Old Testament than he was if I was in his position.
	But anyway, again, undermining the very case.
	And this is before even cross-examination.
	The prosecution's own presentation of videos undermines their central claim.
	That's amazing.
	Okay.
	And so, this is going to go on...
	Is it four-day weeks or are they going to do five days next week?
	Five days.
	Remember, it was only four days because of Labor Day on Monday.
	Amazing.
	Okay.
	So, I guess the interesting thing will be when they...
	I don't know.
	What other interesting witnesses do they have lined up?
	Do you know offhand?
	I don't recall offhand, but if the past is prologue, and usually it is...
	We should expect to see more undermining of the prosecution's case given the own evidence introduced by the prosecution and their own witnesses.
	My big legal question is what weight, if any, is the findings of the commissioner going to have?
	Is it going to come into play?
	Is the prosecution going to say, look, it's so obvious the mischief that they cause that Commissioner Rouleau found the invocation to be justified under the law?
	That's the legal question that I suspect is going to have to come up at some point during this trial, unless there's some directive that they cannot discuss.
	You know, they cannot discuss that, and it's not a judicial knowledge of the court.
	What do Tamara and Chris look like?
	Are they enjoying this process?
	I don't think it seems resilient.
	She seems to be in good spirits.
	Obviously, I've seen her every day.
	She does not look despondent or demoralized.
	Perhaps that's her character.
	I'm not sure.
	But no, I don't see depression or fear or sadness or defeatism on the faces of either Barbara or Leach.
	And the other question, I've seen some of the known players protesting outside.
	Are people protesting outside or was it just a couple of incidents of a couple of people?
	There are some.
	I can't explain them.
	They're absolutely motivated.
	Ninja Enterprise is awesome.
	They love masks.
	They love injections in their arms.
	I don't know.
	But they're outnumbered by far.
	There are maybe two dozen-ish supporters of Tamara Leach and Chris Barber here at the courtroom every day.
	Very nice.
	And the courtroom is open to the public in as much as they have seats?
	It is.
	It's available.
	It's open.
	And are there available seats there?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And is there a spillover room?
	Do they have another room where people can sit and watch on a TV that you know of?
	No, I could set that up because there are rooms that are not being used.
	I do know that the proceedings were meant to be broadcast or shared or...
	On Zoom or something.
	That's right.
	And for some reason that didn't happen.
	It seems to be like my impression from what the judge was saying is that they're just not that technically savvy or they're just not that hardworking in the tech department when it comes to the Ottawa courthouse.
	I'm going to call bullshit.
	Maybe you got it.
	It's government, right?
	So they probably got to make a request.
	20 years in advance.
	Well, no, they were broadcasting some of the stuff via Zoom.
	Which one was I streaming at one point?
	I wasn't streaming the actual Zoom because you weren't allowed rebroadcasting it, but I was live mouthing what I was listening to in my ear.
	They did it with some, and I think with this, I don't think they want to because I think they know what people would think if they saw this debacle of a show trial and what the system is being used for.
	It's an absolute just...
	Pissing away burning taxpayer dollars.
	Okay, cool.
	What else?
	Is there anything else that I should ask that I haven't asked?
	Look, again, for those that want a refresh, go scan some of your highlights.
	Remember that the central claim of the prosecution is that this Freedom Convoy was, again, quote, anything but peaceful.
	Go check out David's live streams.
	David wasn't...
	He doesn't know Ottawa.
	He just walked around.
	Show me where that violence was.
	Show me where that unruliness or criminality was.
	Show me where this non-peaceful demonstration was.
	Because I didn't see it on David's live streams.
	I consumed them heavily because still.
	But when I was at home, I was watching those streams.
	I loved them.
	They were amazing.
	It's bullshit through and through to anybody who knows.
	Mischief, you know, how is it defined under the criminal code?
	I couldn't give the legal definition, but it's opaque and ambiguous, let alone incitement of something that is opaque and ambiguous, and then obstruction of police.
	It's just, it's abusive process.
	This is just, the process is the punishment.
	Slap on bullshit charges like Randy Hillier assaulting a police officer, take him to trial.
	If they get acquitted, Well, we tried.
	If they get convicted, booyah.
	And if we drop the charges, who cares?
	We screw them for legal fees and terrorize them for two years of their life.
	I want to share one last thing with you.
	This is sort of a side note about the Freedom Convoy, given that I'm a lifelong auto resident.
	And during the Freedom Convoy, there were major disruptions to traffic.
	Certain travels took two, three times as long.
	You're in the car for 30, 45, 60 minutes extra.
	With Freedom Convoy blockages.
	Every single...
	And one important point here is the linkage between Quebec and Ontario and Ottawa.
	So for those that don't know, geographically, Ottawa lies on the Ottawa River, which divides Quebec and Ontario.
	So the Quebec side is equally built up.
	Tons of homes there.
	It's called Gatineau, the city, or Elmer.
	And a lot of people who live in Gatineau commute to Ottawa for all sorts of reasons.
	So we've got thousands and thousands...
	Tens of thousands of people commuting daily.
	And they had to go to the furthest bridge because the Ottawa police coordinated with the Gat Bridge and one of the police officers testified that that closure was done again in coordination between the two law enforcement municipal agencies in order to reduce the flow of supporters of the convoy from Quebec to downtown.
	And in so doing, they caused massive inconvenience to tens of thousands of people from Quebec.
	Including myself, by the way.
	I lived there for the past few years.
	Every day for weeks.
	So what's the economic impact of that?
	What's the impact on the quality of life of that?
	Again, it was the police services.
	So every time I speak to low-information people, you know, people that watch CBC or whatever, not enlightened enough to consume, you know, Viva Fry Show, they were like, oh my god, this friggin' convoy, I'm in my car.
	They didn't realize that it was Ottawa police blockades on bridges and on roads.
	To reduce the flow of traffic to downtown that made their commute a nightmare.
	And again, stealing...
	Let's just get philosophical for a moment.
	What more valuable asset do you have in this life than your time?
	That is a massive crime, immoral act, unethical, whatever you want to call it.
	But to steal a goddamn car, forgive me, okay?
	Because you want to reduce the demonstration against your own policies?
	That's criminal.
	I mean, I...
	First of all, the theft of time, like the theft of life is the theft of all time.
	And then the theft of time is something that cannot be compensated.
	But yeah, their argument is going to be, well, we had to hit you because you were acting out type thing.
	Like we had to do it.
	And it's the fault of the convoy that we had to shut down.
	I was showing the two bridges to get over through Gatineau.
	It's worse than that.
	What's the difference?
	Repeatedly.
	I saw this a thousand times if I saw it once.
	This gridlock must come to an end.
	We must end this demonstration because gridlock.
	We have to restore normalcy to Ottowans.
	Ottowans shouldn't be stuck in their cars.
	It was your policies that made people stuck in their cars.
	They reduced, like I said earlier, they took away this negotiator's discretion to consolidate the convoy's footprint, to reduce its geographical impact, to reduce the impact on congestion.
	They blocked the bridges.
	They blocked all these roads into downtown.
	Every day on TV, Oh, we've got to end the gridlock.
	We've got to end the gridlock.
	CBC echoing that.
	CTV, Global, go down the list.
	So again, just like any government policy, they exacerbate, they create the very problem they claim to want to address and the very problem that they blame on some dissident force.
	And worse than that, and more paradoxically than that, after the protest was already out.
	And cleared up after the day of violence.
	They locked off downtown Ottawa for another month.
	At least, I think, another month where they had the barricades up.
	No traffic.
	You couldn't do it.
	And that was after two years of shutting down the entire fucking country.
	So, like, it's an amazing thing.
	Protests for three weeks.
	End of the world mischief.
	They kept Ottawa closed after the protest.
	And they had shut down the whole world for the year and a half before.
	All right, man.
	That's good.
	Robin, will you come back on periodically to give us the updates?
	Sure.
	Okay, awesome.
	And your Twitter handle, it's in there, but it's Robert Krejcik.
	It's just at Robert Krejcik, right?
	Yeah, there's only one Robert Krejcik out there, so...
	Okay.
	Everybody, he's there every day live-tweeting, and it's great to follow.
	Let's do...
	Oh, go for it.
	I'll leave you with one last thing.
	For those of you that want to follow our coverage, because it's great, go to TamaraTrial.com.
	Very easy to remember.
	TamaraTrial.com.
	One thing that Ezra does that I love is getting dedicated websites per item, and they're good websites.
	And he gets them.
	It's Tamara.
	Now, what is it?
	It was TamaraTrial.com?
	You already got it.
	Amazing.
	It's that good.
	Robert, at Robert Krejcik, Krejcik on Twitter, TamaraTrial.com, Rebels covering it, and you're doing great stuff, and anybody who wants to know what's going on, they might get it through a bit of what they might think is your bias or your perspective on this, but it's...
	I don't hide mine, but at the same time, when I'm presenting information, not lying about it either.
	I don't hide my bias.
	I don't think bias is a four-letter word, if you know what I mean.
	I'm transparent with it.
	I'm like the usual suspects, but the information I'm presenting, it's accurate.
	And I don't call it bias.
	I just call it good judgment.
	And I'd rather hear good judgment from you than bullshit partisan propaganda from CBC.
	Thank you.
	Robert, go.
	Enjoy the day.
	Thank you very much.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Don't do it yet.
	Don't do it yet.
	Are you still there?
	Yeah.
	Okay, there was one question here.
	Well, there's a bunch of questions, actually.
	Jeez, I almost forgot.
	Hold on.
	There was one I know that they wanted to ask.
	She's go.
	Dude, I want to look like that.
	If you don't mind me asking, what kind of a diet and types of exercise does he do?
	I'm not your buddy guy.
	I love this question because I actually think that health and fitness has got to get fused with dissident politics and news media culture.
	So, look, I'll tell you what I do and then I'll give you the cheesy broad view, but I just love moving weights around.
	You know, compound movements, bench, triceps, keep getting stronger over time.
	The gym is a metaphor for life.
	As you progressively improve your skills in life, in the gym, you add weight to the bar, you add reps.
	You improve your technique.
	You improve your rest time, right?
	It's like life.
	You get better at your job.
	You get better at being a spouse.
	You get better at being a disciple of whatever.
	The gym is just simple because the weights don't talk back, right?
	Unlike people.
	So compound movements, but the broad thing is this.
	As long as you find a physical endeavor that you enjoy, and don't write things off too quickly.
	Sometimes things become acquired tastes.
	You mean to appreciate it.
	If you find physical endeavor that you love...
	That's the secret ingredient.
	That's finding a job you love.
	Finding a woman or a man you love.
	That's how you get consistency through love, through enjoyment.
	You don't just white-knuckle it every day.
	Then you're going to burn out for sure.
	What is a compound movement?
	It's something that involves multiple joints.
	So bench press as opposed to a tricep extension.
	A squat as opposed to a leg extension, leg machine.
	Okay.
	Fascinating.
	All right.
	Good.
	Robert, thank you.
	We'll be in touch.
	All right.
	Later, Rob.
	Have a good one.
	Bye-bye.
	Bye.
	Amazing.
	Compound movements.
	And what Robert said is true.
	I've noticed now that I've started doing curls, and I've been doing 20 curls with a 20-pound Darvill.
	Just like, you know, like one, two.
	Now I'm up to 25, 30, and I do four reps.
	But if you have too much muscle mass, it requires too much oxygen and requires too much maintenance.
	So you've got to find that balance of what you can maintain.
	Now, there were more questions in there, so hold on.
	That one I just wanted to make sure to get before we ended this.
	"Thought serial numbers allowed it to be registered, therefore making it sue-able.
	Otherwise lands on emergency use and can't sue my guest." She's go.
	"Dance, dance, revolution." That was the best part of the entire thing.
	"Run, Scotty, run, table 19 of the house.
	Why are there temporary street signs up directing traffic onto the Rideau and Core?" And thank you, Viva, this Canada coverage topic.
	Thank you for this Canada coverage topics.
	Important time in Canada right now.
	All right, now here's what we're gonna do.
	We're running long, but we're going to do this anyhow.
	We're going to go over to locals, vivabarneslaw.locals.com to do the after party.
	It might not be that long because I hear kids, but maybe they're going to come in here and join the party.
	Thank you all for being here, as always.
	This was amazing.
	Oh man, they're coming for everything.
	Milgram experiment, Stanford experiment, or just history repeating.
	History rhyming, not repeating.
	Before COVID, I'm not going to be hyperbolic or dramatic.
	Before COVID, I always said to myself, I don't understand how societies devolve into World War I, World War II, Stalinism.
	I cannot understand how societies, modern, evolved, educated societies devolve into tyranny and atrocity.
	I now know.
	I now know how societies devolve into tyranny and atrocity because we've lived through it.
	Maybe not as bad as World War I. Maybe not as bad as World War II.
	Maybe not as bad as Mao's revolution, Stalinism.
	Maybe not as bad.
	Maybe not the same distance, but absolutely the same direction.
	So, that's it.
	Everybody, come on over to Locals.
	Someone just said the...
	Numbers went from 3,700 to 3,100.
	That's because everyone's coming over to Locals.
	Right?
	I don't think you all are.
	But thank you all for being here.
	I'll see you tomorrow.
	Definitely going live tomorrow.
	See if I can get another interesting guest.
	And otherwise, we'll just talk about the news.
	So I got to go to live stream on Rumble and end it.
	Thank you all.
	Be well, Locals.
	I'm a coming.
	I'm a coming, Ma.
	3, 2, 1. Peace out, peeps.
	Locals.
	Ich bin hier.
	So the board.

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