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Aug. 21, 2022 - The Unexplained - Howard Hughes

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Edition 657 - Cruise Speaker Claire Broad

An update with acclaimed Medium and Author Claire Broad - who will be a featured Speaker on the "The Unexplained Live" Mediterranean cruise from October 28th, 2022...

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	Across the UK, across continental North America, and around the world on the internet, by webcast and by podcast, my name is definitely Howard Hughes and this is still the unexplained.
	Well, I hope that everything is good with you wherever in the world you may be.
	Here in London, right now, we're coming to the end of the very hot period, but I can tell you that my little apartment is still baking and very close and steamy at the moment.
	It kind of reminds me, I remember doing a show, a radio show, and we called it Puerto Rico.
	And if you know Puerto Rico, if you've ever passed through there, a lot of cruises pass through Puerto Rico.
	It is a beautiful place and hugely interesting, but it's very tropical in the way that it feels.
	And I remember going to meet somebody who, I can't even remember what she was doing.
	She was promoting Puerto Rico, I think.
	We were only there for half a day, literally, before we were catching a cruise ship and going somewhere else.
	And I remember she had a kind of kitchen, but it was a garden.
	So it was almost partly open air.
	But I can remember that it felt being there exactly as it feels today as I'm recording this.
	It was a bit close and sticky and quite hot.
	And I thought, it's so different from London.
	And now Puerto Rico has come to London.
	It's all very strange.
	But I hope that everything is okay with you and you've been coping with it all.
	I will do a couple of shout-outs and then we're going to get to the guest here on The Unexplained, who is another of the special guest speakers for the cruise that we're doing.
	The cruise, of course, is being staged by Tui Morella, and I will be hosting the sessions with the individual people.
	Five of the biggest names of The Unexplained will be there for you to meet and ask questions of and just be around and hear what they have to tell you.
	Starting 28th of October, going right across the Mediterranean.
	Full details at theunexplainedlive.com.
	So the person we talk with this time is Claire Broad, the medium.
	And for my money, Claire is the most down-to-earth medium.
	And I've met quite a few that I've ever known in my life.
	She is one of my very favorite people.
	If we were working together, she would be my favorite person in the working environment.
	I just think she's so ordinary and so wonderful.
	And I know that not everybody is interested in mediumship and all of the related topics with it, but I think you are going to find Claire both an incredibly engaging and an incredibly interesting person, both now in the conversation that we're about to have and also on the cruise, the details of which are on theunexplainedlife.com.
	Of course, my main website, where you'll find all the podcasts, 700 hours worth and everything else is theunexplained.tv.
	Thank you to Adam, my webmaster, for all of his work on both of those websites that I've just told you about.
	If you want to get in touch with me, please go to the main website, theunexained.tv.
	Follow the link and you can send me an email from there.
	Quick shout-outs then before we get to Clare Broad in the UK, not very far from me.
	Mark, who'd like me to talk about the work of Wayne Herschel?
	I'll look into that.
	I think I heard him once on the Art Bell show years ago.
	Steve, thank you for the photo of the moon.
	The moon has been putting in some amazing appearances this summer, hasn't it?
	Another Mark got in touch with the strange tale of a ship, naval ship, HMS Afray.
	A submarine ghost story, this one.
	I need to look into that in the 1950s.
	I'll see if anybody's written anything about that and we'll take it from there.
	There was a woman who didn't want me to give out her name, emailed about some predictions that had been made.
	I need to check about that.
	Thank you.
	Joanne got in touch to talk about galactic messages.
	Tony got in touch to talk about some strange lines of Portugal, I think you say, that are observable on Google Earth.
	And Trevor, if you know anything about that, let me know.
	And Trevor got in touch on the strange experiences that some airline crew, pilots and other crew have had.
	I'm talking about UFOs and things like that.
	If you're in an air crew and you've had an experience, please get in touch with me at theunexplained.tv.
	Send me an email.
	Tell me who you are, where you are, and how you use this show, all that sort of stuff.
	Right.
	I think that's everything I've done now.
	Thank you very much for being with me as you are every step of the way.
	It's been a bit of a problematic, brief period, this, but you've helped me through some difficulties lately, and thank you.
	Couldn't do it without you, any of it.
	Okay, let's get to the guest on this edition of The Unexplained, Claire Broad, about 20, 25 miles from where I'm sitting right now in this steaming flat apartment.
	Claire, thank you very much for coming back on the show.
	Oh, hi, Howard.
	Hi to all your listeners.
	I am great.
	I really am very excited about this.
	We haven't talked since well before COVID, I think.
	So those two years definitely changed me.
	I was working from home for two years, actually doing a national radio show from my home.
	I quite enjoyed it for a while, but it becomes very lonely after a period.
	But it changed all of us, I think, is what I was saying.
	How did it impact you?
	It changed me massively.
	I went through, I would say, a spiritual awakening.
	And I think a lot of people went through a bit of a spiritual awakening.
	So, you know, at the risk of sounding straight off the bat like, you know, I'm a spiritual nutjob.
	I think that we were all driven within ourselves and we all had to do inner reflection, which to me is the spiritual pathway.
	And very interestingly, the way that I worked as a medium before, very much in a traditional sense of like you might see on the TV with public demonstrations, obviously that all stopped.
	I'd always worked online doing readings and demonstrations.
	That changed completely in the way that everybody was suddenly online with it.
	The intimacy, I missed the hugs, I missed the people coming into my life every day.
	It really changed me.
	But very, very interestingly, and without wanting to race too far ahead, my spirit team were ahead of all of this.
	They knew it was coming.
	And not that they had told me, because I probably wouldn't have been able to cope with it, but they had been planting seeds for a long time.
	And I had a major spiritual awakening through this period because I had what I would deem as a soul connection that opened my mind up to a whole load more on the spiritual side of things.
	So, for the last three years, I've been in training with somebody that we have been coming together and joining our skill sets.
	So, I went through a period of deep, intensive training as well with my spirit team and came out a whole lot, I think, better and more rounded.
	So, a lot going on.
	God, it sounds like it.
	You talk about your spirit team.
	Now, the nice thing about you is that I know that I can put skeptics' questions to you.
	And I have a lot of people who will not listen to shows that I do with mediums.
	They don't buy into it.
	They don't like it.
	They think it's all hoo-eye.
	And those who do listen and are skeptical will often come back to me with criticisms and they'll say, this is all nonsense.
	And how can you believe any of this?
	And all I can say to them is, well, I don't know.
	But, you know, how can you believe anybody?
	Look at our politicians today about anything.
	You've just got to find your own way.
	But your spirit team, let's start there.
	What is your spirit team and what are they doing for you?
	Okay.
	So I don't, just to address that, the last thing I want is anyone believing me.
	I'm not into belief.
	Belief doesn't help us.
	It's an inner knowing that helps us.
	And like you say, we have to get there ourselves.
	So when I speak, I don't want anybody believing me.
	I want them to go inside themselves and find their own answers.
	My spirit team is a team of disincarnate intelligences who have proven to me over 25 years of their existence.
	I would just class them as everyday people or souls, whatever way you want to put it, because to me we are consciousness primary and we are physical secondary.
	So they are in what we, I don't even like the word spirit, but they are in light form or a different level of formation because it's still form in the spirit world.
	And they are consciousness.
	And they are teachers who have bought information to me and trained me so that I can pass on a level of knowledge that we don't get from just interacting with each other in the physical world.
	They're disincarnate intelligences and I own that now with complete conviction.
	But at one stage they've been incarnate intelligences.
	Do you get any clue as to who they were and what they did?
	Yes, I do.
	So I have written books about this, how my journey is to how it was proven to me that these disincarnate intelligences existed.
	The trouble we've got is in the spirit world, they give me names that I really grapple with.
	And I've got to be honest, I lose my temper with them sometimes because they give me these airy fairy names that I just think are going to lose half of the audience.
	But then on the other hand, the other half of the audience probably will love it.
	So first of all, I used to see at the end of my bed as a teenager, a Native American who frightened the life out of me.
	So used to appear to me at a time when I was coming out of sleep or entering into sleep.
	So I was either in hypnopompic or hypnogic state.
	I would come out of sleep, if you want to say scientifically, in a state of mind where my brain was in theta and alpha brain waves, I was receptive to being able to see this being standing in my room, terrified me.
	Then we went through a phase in my family of other people experiencing this intelligence.
	So I began to realize it wasn't just me.
	Hold on, the Native American who stood at the foot of your bed, other people in your family?
	Yes, they started to experience his presence too.
	So very cleverly, what he did was not only appear to me, but he then began to bring through something called Claire Scent, S-C-E-N-T scent, he bought a very distinctive, and I've got to say, pungent, horrible smell, which we later discovered was to do with the herbs that he would have smoked.
	I know it sounds crazy, but this is the truth.
	Yeah, he should be vaping, but you know, he was able to do sort of a natural plant medicine.
	And then, but we were able to track that smell.
	So we couldn't obviously place it.
	We turned the place upside down.
	We thought it was the neighbours next door.
	We didn't know if it was something they were cooking.
	That's how it started to show itself.
	So other people were able to detect this smell.
	Now, the thing is smells linger and they disappear over time.
	This didn't.
	It would appear and then it would be gone as quick as it came.
	It would also travel.
	So it would travel, literally travel past people downstairs.
	I mean, it was, you know, very, very sort of prominent.
	You could not ignore that smell.
	My dad, who is completely agnostic, still is, he in the end had to admit that this was going on.
	Bet him, he had an open mind.
	But then what happened from there was a medium.
	See, this is where my life is all, I think, a little bit predestined because my mum at the time had a part-time job at a local company called the National Federation of Spiritual Healers that just happened to be down the road.
	She didn't know much about spiritual healing.
	It was offering a job in school hours.
	So she took this job, was put in touch with energy healers, a medium ship, and my whole world opened out because this medium then picked up on this spirit intelligence.
	I then went to see a medium off the back of this because my mind had been opened up.
	How old were you then?
	I was 19.
	This was going on throughout all my teens.
	We had a number of things, objects moving, these smells, the apparitions, the paranormal phenomena was going on, the hot and cold spots, everything that you might see or hear of in the world of paranormal was going on around me.
	And this was stuff that you did not take an interest in before this and you did not seemingly invite in?
	No, we didn't have.
	So, just to backtrack a little bit, when I was four, I perceived my granddad at a cemetery.
	He had passed, and I delivered a message from him to my nan.
	I have told this story many times.
	I know I've spoken to you about it in the past, Howard, but that was the only experience I'd had, if you like, of spirit communication at the age of four, where I had no clue about the afterlife, was not interested in it, didn't care, didn't have the emotional maturity.
	I delivered a message from my deceased granddad, not even thinking about it, just passing it on.
	But it was a very evidential message because I'd given the name of my nan, which I didn't know her name because she didn't go by her birth name.
	She went by her middle name.
	So my nan knew that it hadn't come from me and it had come from somewhere else.
	She absolutely believed it had come from her husband from beyond the grave.
	But I'd had that experience, but up until then, like I said, my dad's agnostic.
	My mum was spiritually minded, but we were not, you know, we're in the 1980s, which was when I was a child, people went to church, but it wasn't part of my real, you know, belief system.
	In fact, I completely turned my back on religion because I couldn't relate to it.
	I felt it was very sexist.
	That was just my personal opinion as a young girl.
	I don't feel the same now.
	I love the wisdom traditions.
	But at the time, just to give you the context, I had no spiritual outlook.
	My family were not equipped to deal with what was going on around me.
	They had no idea either.
	And so we felt our way through this experience.
	I will say that my mum had a very spiritual outlook.
	My nan used to have what I now understand to be paranormal experiences.
	So we never, it was never poo-pooed.
	It was just never encouraged.
	It was never entertained.
	It just was, just was, you know, it wasn't feared, wasn't, I got to say there was nothing, it was not the focus of my life.
	I was growing up being a teenager, doing what teenagers do, focusing on school.
	I went through a very difficult divorce with my mum and dad divorcing.
	I was bullied at school.
	But I had a very, very content family life.
	Even though my mum and dad went for a divorce, my family life was very secure and still is.
	In fact, they get on very well.
	But, you know, what I'm trying to say is there was a lot to distract me.
	I wasn't focused on the spirit world.
	This all started to unfold around me and happened to me.
	So when I was 19, I went to see a medium.
	And did you take the question, and here I am jumping in, but I'd have taken the first thing if I if I felt I could trust the medium I'd gone to see, which you must have felt that, first thing I'd be asking them is, you know, why have I been picked for this?
	Well, I didn't know, actually.
	I was taken to her by a friend who I used to work at a very, very well-known sports company, a global brand.
	And my colleague said that she had found a medium.
	She wanted to go and have a reading.
	And did I want to go with her?
	Because she was too frightened to go on her own.
	And this is what I'm saying.
	It all happened to me.
	I didn't go looking for it.
	So I ended up at this lady's house intrigued because I'd had all this going on.
	I thought, oh, maybe I can get some answers.
	However, I didn't necessarily trust her.
	I hadn't found her myself.
	So I sat very quietly.
	Her name was Sheila Thomas, is Sheila Thomas.
	She's still with us.
	And basically she stunned me because one of the first things she came out of her mouth was, I've got your grandfather here, who was the grandfather who spoke to me when I was four.
	She told me his name.
	She described him, how he died, everything.
	And then she told me, you've seen him, you've delivered a message from him.
	And I've also got a spirit teacher here who is asking me if I will train you because you have the ability.
	And then she told me all about the smell that I'd been smelling, what he looked like, and she named him.
	And she was the one who gave him a name of Whitefeather, which to me is a very, if you want, archetypical spiritualist outlook.
	But it's just a label.
	And I've come to embrace that name because I think, well, Whitefeathers seem very spiritual.
	And you're sure that young though you were and going there with an open mind by the sounds of it, and actually somewhat sceptical by the sounds of that too.
	But you're absolutely sure that when you went to see that medium, you didn't divulge anything in your nice conversations before you actually got into the session that might have given that person clues as to some of this stuff that was going on with you.
	It all came spontaneously.
	It was all spontaneous.
	I was 19.
	I was naive, but it wasn't like we had all the internet.
	I didn't have any exposure to mediums whatsoever.
	I didn't have any expectations.
	I was excited, just, you know, in anticipation to see what might happen.
	It was more going in with that kind of teenage nervousness of this could be spooky.
	What's the medium all about?
	And she just poured me a cup of tea, sat at the table and chatted to me like anybody else that I sat around the table with and had a cup of tea with.
	She wasn't at all what I expected.
	And the information she gave me, there's no way she could have known.
	So that kind of opened up my mind.
	But it didn't stop there.
	You see, I still didn't trust that my spirit guide was actually real.
	I started to sit with her in development.
	So I'd sit in every month for two hours, we'd sit in meditation to develop our own spiritual practice.
	And I started to experience then White Feather for myself.
	So he would start, he began a process of communicating.
	I went to see other mediums to see how what this was all about and how they all worked and if it was just a one-off.
	Another medium came up to me and told me about him, gave me his name, said that he was here, we were going to be doing work together.
	And then I'm going very quickly through this.
	Eventually, because I do approach it from a little bit more of a scientific angle, because I've got an analytical mind, I went to a mind-body-soul exhibition and I said in my mind, if you're real, I need to know because I just don't think that I've, you know, I'm just doubting.
	This seems too fantastical.
	Why Have I got a Native American?
	This is going to make me sound ridiculous.
	It's going to sound stupid.
	Me owning this, you know.
	Well, it's true, isn't it?
	A lot of the, and I can remember, we might have talked about this before, but like an old edition of Steptoe and Son, comedy on the TV.
	Yeah.
	And there was a medium in that who had Geronimo as a spirit guy.
	And, you know, and obviously they were mocking it for comic effect.
	But those are the things that people say.
	I love those.
	I know.
	It just always sounds so ridiculous.
	I've even asked him why he's given me that name.
	And that's what I mean.
	He's shown me the spiritual symbolism of it because people recognize white feathers as a sign from their loved ones.
	It represents the fact that Spirit World are reaching out to us.
	The reason he's shown himself as Native American is because I'm being taught in a very shamanic way.
	He's a teacher of mediumship after all.
	So he is presenting an image so that I'll understand the purpose of why he's with me.
	And he has given me a background into past lives and connections we've had.
	I've got, just to finish this story, just to tie it in, when I went to this My Body Soul exhibition, I asked him if I could have an image of him.
	There was a psychic artist at this exhibition.
	I never met the artist.
	I went to a table, put my name down against a time, paid a lady at a desk, and then came back at that time where my art was ready for me.
	And when I collected it, it was who I'd seen.
	And that for me was like, okay, now I can't really doubt it.
	I've got the picture.
	I've had the information.
	So many other people are picking up on him.
	And I can tell you now that has just continued for 25 years.
	I am not the only one that's been in communication with him.
	I've received many messages from many mediums who get in contact with me, who don't know me from Adam and have contacted me saying I've got a Native American guide here with a message for you.
	He's very clever, but he's not the only one.
	I've also got a guide called Christopher.
	that is a very usual name, who represents, if you like, the more analytical, scientific, alchemical, spiritual side of things, but from a more level-headed, not...
	He's the one who passes on the philosophy, the insight for my books, the teachings.
	He walks with me every day.
	Christopher is about the mediumship, the environment, the setup.
	There are many others.
	There are, I could list off a whole lot, but these two are very foreright in my work.
	And so I talk about those two.
	It's very personal to me, Howard, you know, because it's, they've, you know, they're, they're, you know, sometimes I think, are they characters in a part of my psyche that I'm not aware of?
	But no, they've been connected, like I say, been connected with me through other people.
	So how can that be?
	It can't just be something out of my own mind if other people are describing them, experiencing them, talking about them.
	So, you know, I'm open to all kind of questioning.
	I really hope I'm not so identified with my own beliefs or knowings or experiences that I can't change a viewpoint.
	I can only speak about this happened to me.
	This is how it happened.
	This is why I've drawn this conclusion.
	This is why I think like I do.
	And what I love about you is the down-to-earth way that you talk about this.
	You know, this is not dogma from you.
	You're very flexible about what you say and what you believe.
	And I think that that's great.
	If we think about Whitefeather, just for a second, though, obviously I think my listeners are going to love the name.
	It's very evocative.
	No, in its own way, it's very evocative.
	Did Whitefeather ever explain to you two things?
	Number one, why he's roaming through the universe, the cosmos or whatever, doing what he's doing, imparting wisdom, knowledge, etc.
	Why he felt that he wanted to do that when a lot of people pass over and don't do that?
	And the other part of this very long question is, why does he come to me?
	Why does he come knocking on my door?
	Yeah, exactly.
	I know why he comes knocking on my door.
	It's because I have been shown other incarnations that I had where I have followed a spiritual pathway.
	I've had lifetimes with him where I've been working, not at all like this, but, you know, had a spiritual pathway.
	In one of them, there was a very solomonic lifetime.
	I'm not religious at all in this lifetime.
	But paths have been crossed.
	There's been conjunctions in time where our paths have been crossed.
	So there's already a relationship of a soul connection built there.
	And why is he doing this?
	Why do any of us do anything that we choose to do in service to others?
	I mean, ultimately, we found ourselves conscious in a universe traveling through, if you want, space and time.
	What are we going to do with that time?
	He lived a very shamanic lifetime.
	He has an idea.
	He is very passionate about the earth, how humanity is leading its lives, because he tells me that the impact or the spiritual growth of humanity affects the spiritual dimensions.
	They're interrelated.
	They're the same thing.
	So if they can come and help us, it will help them.
	So there is an incentive.
	And, you know, at the end of the day, why do any of us choose to do teaching or nursing or help anybody that is in need around us that we know and love?
	Well, sometimes, you know, sometimes we're impelled to do a thing, like I'm impelled to do this.
	Exactly.
	I do what I do.
	Exactly.
	For reasons that neither of us can completely understand, but it just seems to be what we do.
	If he's trying to help us, though, look at the state of the world.
	Look at the politics.
	Look at the rising fuel prices.
	Look at what's happening in Ukraine.
	Look at what's happening everywhere.
	With the best will of the world, and I've never met him, and I would love to.
	He's not doing a very good job, is he?
	No, no, we're not doing a very good job.
	It's not the spirit world's responsibility, is it, to do the work for us?
	It's our responsibility, and we're doing a terrible job of it.
	All they can do is try and get through to us in some way, shape, or form.
	We've all got this help, or if you don't want to look at it like spirit guys, we've all got our own spiritual connection or connection to something bigger than ourselves.
	I hate the word spiritual, it builds all these connotations already.
	The consciousness within us, that element of us that is not physical, the consciousness, we've all got that, that energy, that essence survives physical death.
	So in spirit, what would you be doing?
	You'd be coming back saying, wake up.
	You know, one, you can't die.
	Two, your decisions are causing more suffering and pain, both in spirit and here.
	Can we try and do something about it?
	I mean, I think he gets, I know, because I experience his emotions, just as frustrated as we all do, but he's doing what he can.
	He's one soul in the universe.
	As I am, as you are, we can only all do our little bit.
	So we are trying to do our little bit, which is to help those who are suffering, who want to understand that there is something more, who already know that within themselves, and they're seeking to have some experience that helps them understand they're part of something bigger than themselves.
	Until we take responsibility and understand that we are that power in the universe, nothing's ever going to change.
	So, no, they're not doing a great job.
	I will say, from a personal perspective, he was, I didn't want to listen to him, but he was telling me at least eight years ago that things were going to start folding, that we were in for a bit of a rough ride, and that I needed to prepare myself because there was going to be more and more people finding their way to me because life was going to get harder and harder and harder.
	And are they?
	They are.
	I'm absolutely inundated.
	My private practice was already booked two years in advance.
	So that was the norm for me.
	I can't keep up with demand.
	The level of teaching, I teach at the College of Psychic Studies.
	I teach, do my own training.
	That's gone absolutely crazy.
	People are needing and wanting this knowledge.
	And I'm no doubt in the future we'll start to build a bigger social media presence once I've finished writing the books because that's another story.
	Well, no, I mean, we talked about, our first conversation was about a book that you wrote, was with Teresa Chung, wasn't it?
	What the Dead Are Dying to Tell You?
	That's it.
	Oh, no, no, we got that bit confused.
	I wrote with Teresa Chung, Answers from Heaven.
	Yeah, and then I wrote What the Dead Are Dying to Teach Us.
	So that's all done, Howard.
	That's both books in one go.
	Of course I did that deliberately.
	But, you know, once you've told the story you've just told me, and we'll get into the practical applications of all of this, what else can you write in a book then?
	What's the new book?
	The new book that I'm writing now is all about the soul, how the soul, I don't know what word to use, births into the universe, how the structure of the soul, the soul journeys we take, the soul connections we have, the indestructible nature of the soul.
	They've been giving me a whole load of knowledge.
	Basically what I understood, once I'd written, just to give the listeners a bit of context, when I was 21, Whitefeather gave a message through a different medium to me that I was going to be, I'd come to write for the spirit world.
	That was why I'd come.
	I didn't believe it.
	I'd failed English, GCSE.
	I didn't want to write books.
	I didn't pursue it.
	I never pursued it.
	I didn't take any notice.
	20 years later, Teresa Chung then contacts me out of the blue, literally, saying, I'm really sorry.
	I don't know who you are.
	I've never heard of you before.
	But you've been recommended to me.
	Would you please be able, would you come onto my social media Facebook page and talk about mediumship?
	Because I'm not qualified to.
	And she's a Sunday Times best-selling author all about the afterlife and psychic phenomena and everything.
	But Whitefeather had been getting messages to me just before this saying the time's now, it's time to stand, put your head above the parapet, which didn't sound too promising.
	And this book came about, this collaboration with Teresa and I just literally happened to me and thus began the writing.
	So I'd written all about in what the dead and dying to teach us and answers from heaven, you know, my journey as a medium, why it is that I truly believe consciousness survives physical death and the science behind it all.
	But then I was informed that delivering a message in itself from the spirit world, as healing as it can be, as therapeutic as it might be, is not the whole truth.
	It's lovely to know that grandma saw you in Marks and Spencer's or wherever at a shop buying a pair of shoes, you know, yesterday and is with you still.
	It's lovely to know that.
	But does that affect change?
	Like you're saying, Howard?
	How do we heal the world?
	How do we, you know?
	I mean, have you got that answer?
	Well, no, but he's showing me that we have to understand our true nature.
	We have to understand that we are consciousness.
	We are energy.
	Everything is energy, frequency, vibration.
	He's showing me that the consciousness forms into a soul.
	Once we understand our true nature, we will make decisions from a better place.
	When we know better, we do better.
	We'll be more empathic.
	You cannot open up spiritually and not become more aligned with your heart.
	And then when you're more in alignment with your, with, with, it sounds trite, but when you're more in alignment with love and empathy, then you make decisions that we would just not be making right now.
	And even people aren't.
	Right.
	No, most people aren't.
	That's what I was coming to.
	And, you know, the thing that was burning within me to say just that second ago is that this process that we've been going through through COVID, where a lot of people have been working from home and they've been introspective to some degree, as indeed I was, I rethought my entire life for what that was worth.
	But magnify that millions in this country around the world and you get the beginning of a process.
	And even if those people don't know, and you said it before I got to it, which I knew you would, even if those people don't know, even if those people don't Know what this is all about.
	A load of people have started to rethink their lives and they've started to think that the way we do things, just have a look out the window.
	Turn on the news if you can stand it for a couple of minutes.
	And I worked in news all my life.
	A lot of the time, I've just got to turn it off.
	It ain't working.
	No, it's broken and it's got to break.
	So what I've been taught by my spirit teachers, because I take my knowledge now from a higher source, not humanity, is that it is going to, I mean, it sounds dire.
	This sounds dire.
	And I have a big message of hope here, you know, but I've been shown the Sumerian cultures, the very ancient cultures of Egypt and all of into the past.
	I couldn't understand why I was being shown all this.
	I was being shown about how Samaria overworked the land and collapsed as a civilization because it couldn't produce wheat.
	And basically, in other words, what happened on a smaller scale of civilization in ancient times is happening now.
	And so it is imploding on us.
	Most of us are looking around thinking, my God, the world is, you know, falling apart.
	But the takeout of this is it kind of needs to.
	It's not working.
	We've overworked it.
	Now we need to readdress the balance.
	Everything's about balance.
	We've tipped the scales.
	We haven't, and I think this is another reason why I've got a Native American bringing knowledge to me, because it was that culture that talked about it wasn't until, you know, man had basically killed every animal, fished every fish out of the sea and drank all, you know, dried up the land and the rivers that would discover it can't eat money, you know.
	These very, if you want, tribal communities that live close to the land understood how to live in ways that we don't.
	Our challenge is to bring that together.
	So I think that's kind of the, what I'm being shown from, Spirit.
	It's like, how do we now live better?
	And it is a good news story.
	Ultimately, we have the power in our own hands.
	We are eternal beings.
	And I wish I didn't have to speak in such if you want new age terms.
	I don't know how else to say it.
	We are eternal consciousness.
	We exist beyond the physical form.
	The way I describe it is a little bit like, you know, there isn't a person in the television set.
	We all know that.
	We know the television set is picking up on the signals that are being sent to it.
	Your physical body is the same.
	You are, your consciousness is being communicated through the vessel of your physical body, but your physical body is not who you really are.
	You are the consciousness that can survive actually quite well without it and has done probably many lifetimes.
	You've probably died a million times over already, but we're still here.
	We're in, obviously, we haven't quite got this right, have we?
	It's all a learning experience.
	Do you have any thoughts?
	Have any of your guides discoursed with you on the subject that comes up more and more in my shows, and it seems to be coming to a critical mass right now, unless I'm deluding myself about it.
	The idea that we are not alone in this universe and that some other power beyond us might have been making its presence felt for a long time, and we've known about this through Roswell and various other things for many, many years.
	And governments and power brokers have kept it all secret for a long time.
	But the fact is that we're getting close, I suspect, to a point at which there will have to be an admission that we aren't alone and that maybe there have been contacts beyond those that we could even imagine that have been happening, but simply it was deemed the people weren't worth it.
	I'm going to stop talking in seconds here, but you'll be relieved to know.
	But have you any thoughts?
	Have you had any discourses about that?
	Yes, because the way that the spirit world, or, you know, a different dimension of reality, if we have to call it the spirit world, see it, let's face it, if I can see a discarnate loved one, they're not physical on this earth.
	That makes them extraterrestrial.
	They don't live on the planet.
	They live in a different dimension.
	So absolutely, can higher evolved beings exist?
	Of course they can.
	And they do.
	I've seen deceased people.
	They don't live in our world.
	They live in a different level of dimension of reality.
	So, Duke, is it possible for other intelligences on other planets to live?
	Put my teeth in.
	My belief, absolutely.
	The spirit world don't communicate to me in any way, shape or form that makes me think any different.
	For me, I experience different layers or levels of consciousness, which seems to manifest in different ways.
	So we get different types of beings that I've interacted with.
	I could call them, if you want for a better word, style people.
	I don't know.
	I sound like a complete crackpot, but I'm owning it.
	And that's what I love about you, that you are...
	And you realize the stuff that you're coming out with is not going to exactly impress some people.
	A lot of people are there with you on the same page already.
	I think I probably am.
	But there will be people who will be hearing this who just won't, won't understand it and won't get it.
	Even though things are changing around us, we cannot deny that.
	And people are being pointed, it seems to me, in a particular direction.
	Plus, there's more and more evidence that something is going on that might involve a power beyond us.
	It's all fascinating.
	Changing the subject.
	Sorry, you said.
	Sorry, Howard.
	I was going to say, to me, it isn't a power beyond us.
	To me, it is us.
	We are energy, frequency, vibration.
	We are light, consciousness, electrical beings.
	However, that takes form in any part of this universe with so many billion Earth-like planets out there, you know, let's just open our minds a little bit.
	I don't think that I am saying anything that's too far-fetched in possibility.
	Do I know?
	No, I don't know.
	I don't profess to know.
	I also don't have any need to convince anybody else of anything because I also understand we're on our own journeys and we've got to get there in our own space.
	And, you know, space, pardon the pun.
	You know, we've been, we've been, I have been around now for long enough on this planet to understand that we don't have.
	I've worked with the scientists.
	I've gone through every single type of kind of analytical process on this.
	We don't have a clue what consciousness is.
	I mean, we've only just found out, you know, we don't even know how the brain works when we thought we did.
	We don't know what consciousness is.
	And all I can say to people is I do know through repetitive experience that consciousness can survive beyond the physical body.
	So that opens up a whole load of potential there.
	And so I really have no interest in even worrying about what other people think about me.
	And I think when you've reached that stage in your life, and I think I'm very, very fast getting there, it's a very good place to be.
	Okay, I had a conversation with Callum Cooper, Cal Cooper from the University of Michigan.
	Isn't he great?
	He's a parapsychologist, researcher in all of these things, has an incredibly open mind, but also that discipline that a scientist has.
	We were talking about some stuff that I'd been reading recently about the process of dying and whether it is just like the turning out of a light, whether or not that's the complete end or whether you go on to something else beyond that.
	The actual process of dying being something where a switch is switched and you just go.
	Whether you've gone to nothing or whether you're going to something else, well, we could debate that all night.
	And it's coming to be understood that the process of dying is a process.
	It's not just an event.
	We were talking about whether the hearing sustains for a period.
	You know, I may have talked with you before about the single most devastating thing that happened in my life, the death of my mother, the first person close to me who'd ever died.
	And I remember going to the hospital in Southport, and I really, nobody, she went into hospital, nobody expected her to die.
	My God, she went through a terrible time, though.
	She had her leg amputated, and they were going to amputate another, and we were taking on board that shock.
	But the fact that we could get her physiotherapy and whatever prosthetics or whatever help might be necessary, we never thought she'd die.
	But she did.
	And I had to drive all the way from London.
	I came off the radio, and somehow I was calm enough to drive to Southport.
	I didn't make it before she died, sadly.
	But I was there and she was in a room, and I spoke to her.
	And I can recall that image now.
	But I was kind of convinced, because my mum and I had always been a little bit into these things.
	And my dad, too.
	My dad had quite a leaning in this direction.
	But I had a feeling that she was hearing it.
	And so that prompted my discussion with Cal and the things that I've been reading recently that might suggest that the process of dying is actually a process in stages.
	And maybe the hearing and the perception is the last thing to go.
	But when the doctors think that you're gone, maybe you're not yet.
	Do you know anything about that?
	I can only talk from my experience with communicating from the other side.
	So I'm obviously when I'm doing readings where I'm picking up on people's deceased loved ones, they often show me the process of dying.
	So I mean, I'd love to speak to Cal about this.
	They often show me what they went through.
	So part of the evidence of survival in my message is to tell clients how their loved ones died.
	They quite often will show me, say, a hospital room, what they were experiencing, which is very different to how we project onto them what we think they're experiencing.
	So in other words, it appears the consciousness detaches from the physical body or they kind of almost, if you want, are viewing it from a altered perspective.
	So it's almost like they're able to view what's going on slightly removed or detached from the body.
	So not suffering physically in the way we might believe they are.
	They often are seeing deceased loved ones, spirit teachers, guides, helpers who are going to be helping them transition because this is a big shock, obviously, coming out of the physical body.
	It's like birth, labor is not an easy entry into this world.
	It's the same for a lot of people exiting, although death doesn't exist.
	Dying is not an easy process.
	So I'm often aware that they are aware of the conversations that people are saying.
	I have a lot of clients who, obviously, just like you, Howard, devastatingly weren't either able to be there when their loved ones passed or it looked like their loved ones were not aware they were there.
	So they were talking to them.
	Yet I'm able to pick up in readings what had been said, things that were going on in the room, things that happened afterwards, conversations that had been had afterwards.
	And obviously part of my job is to try and bring in information that has gone on or happened post a person's passing to be suggestive of consciousness surviving death.
	I'm not a scientist.
	I cannot scientifically prove what I do and I do not claim that I do.
	The type of evidence I'm talking about is the experiential evidence when you have an experience and, you know, like in court of law evidence.
	So they will show me that.
	So it would not surprise me at all if your mum was able to hear what you were saying.
	Plus, I have an awareness that Cal perhaps can't leap to in his work as he is very scientific.
	I am very well aware that those on the other side of life or in spiritual form or the formless, however you want to put it, are aware of our thoughts.
	I did a reading today actually for a lady who had been, this is a very tiny detail and it's so minutia really in the scheme of things.
	She had been just that morning thinking to herself, she lives on her own, thinking to herself that she was going to replace her sofa after she'd spoken to me.
	She was going to get online and buy a new sofa because hers was looking terrible and she knew she wanted a red one.
	And in the reading this morning, I was able to tell her that her husband was there, that he had heard her conversation in her mind about her red sofa and that yes, she was going to buy a new one.
	He knew he was with her.
	So, you know, take that for what it is.
	I know they hear us.
	Well, I can give you a little example from the last 24 hours if you like.
	Isn't it funny how sometimes, especially when the weather is like this and it kind of gets you down and your mind is mulling, mulling, mulling, and little tiny details bug you, and they do with me.
	I can tell you, you know, I have to do everything that I do on a bit of a shoestring because, you know, it doesn't generate vast amounts of cash.
	So I don't have, for some of the things that I do, the very latest brand new technology, often I buy things, including the microphone that I'm speaking into now, you know, secondhand on eBay.
	A lot of musicians sell equipment like this microphone that they don't use and they pass it on to somebody else in good faith.
	And here it is sounding really good on the podcast.
	And that's how I work.
	And the computer that I'm connecting with you is a former business machine that's been refurbished.
	And the recorder that this is being recorded on was owned by somebody else before this.
	And that's how I work.
	That's good.
	Well, yes, I am.
	I'm getting maybe the value from things that the original owners didn't quite get.
	But that's not the point, really.
	The point is this.
	I had to buy and find cheaply a replacement mouse for traveling, you know.
	And all I wanted was an old-fashioned, I know, But I wanted a mouse to take with my laptop if I go and visit my sister or something like that.
	And it had to be the right price.
	And I found one.
	And I ordered it up and forgot about it and lost it.
	It went missing in my crazy flat.
	And, you know, I had this place up in the, I hate loose ends and not being able to find things.
	I had it upside down and inside.
	I couldn't find it.
	Yesterday, having thought about it again, and I've been thinking a lot about my parents and my mum and my dad, yesterday, I get up and I've been, I think I've maybe mentioned in a message to my sister, I can't find this mouse, it's driving me mad.
	It's a stupid little thing that gets on your mind, isn't it?
	I'm walking to the kitchen and lying on the floor, right by the kitchen door, right in front of the kitchen door, so I had to either, you know, step on it or see it and step over it.
	I saw it and stepped over it, was the mouse in the packaging that had been delivered by the courier.
	Now, I'd lost it for six weeks, maybe more, in this flat.
	I could not find it.
	And yet there it was, as if somebody was presenting it to me.
	Now, that was probably just a coincidence, but I did look up and say, thank you, mum.
	Yes, and there's no such thing as coincidence.
	People that say there's things like coincidence in life don't really understand how the universe works in my view.
	Because we draw things to us.
	We are powerful.
	Our thoughts create our reality.
	And as you send your thoughts out and mum's able to bring that to you or manifest that to you, it's brought to you.
	You've allowed that reality to happen in your life, you know.
	I can remember speaking to Lloyd Hauer back in the States.
	Oh, yes, I've spoken with him, yeah.
	Lovely man.
	And he was telling me that he had some sceptics that were in the room with him and he was doing an exercise because he's obviously a psychologist.
	He was doing an exercise.
	He asked, he'd placed a big alien in the room and he said that he'd asked everybody to, I don't know, I'm probably not doing this justice, but I remember in the conversation him telling me that none of the skeptics saw the alien in the room.
	And his conclusion was because they just don't believe that they even exist.
	They just look straight through it.
	Our brain filters out much of our reality.
	And if we don't hold an idea that these things are possible, we just won't see them.
	And so loads of people are having these experiences.
	They're walking straight past them.
	They're not giving them any acknowledgement whatsoever.
	And that kind of a port is the word I would use, where you're being brought something that you know damn well was not on the floor.
	You know, you know yourself.
	I mean, these things happen and you start to question your own sanity.
	It's like, did I leave that there?
	Did I?
	You know, you go over everything.
	I've had the same thing happen.
	I've had objects just appear in the room.
	I've had, very nicely.
	I've had money come to me when I was once lost in not a very nice part of London and I couldn't get out of the car park.
	I've got story upon story like this and so have all the public that write to me.
	I know your mum will have bought you that.
	But you make of it what you will.
	Well, you know, it's not a coincidence.
	I'm still in, even this morning, I was trying to trace back, well, of course, it must have been, you know, somewhere close to there, or I've accidentally, it's been on the floor and I've maybe kicked it.
	I just haven't, because I've had so many things to think about lately.
	You just haven't been, you know, conscious enough to notice it.
	And then I think to myself, no, it just appeared there.
	And I'm glad because I've packed it in my travel bag.
	And the next time I go and see my sister, Beryl, you know, or I maybe get a day away in Sidmouth or something, then I'll have the mouse for my laptop.
	And it's a wired mouse.
	You know, I know it's not the latest word in mice, but mouse is in mice.
	But it's fine for me.
	And it cost £11.50, I remember, and I found it now.
	I don't have to buy another one.
	Yeah, it's have helped you.
	And this is the thing.
	This is the exact type of condition when this kind of appearance will come in.
	They're not just going to suddenly sort our lives out for us.
	We came here to do that for ourselves, you know?
	Yeah, well, you know, I think I've had a certain amount of assistance along the way, but whoever put me here, Claire, they didn't exactly, you know, they've shown me the most wonderful things, but geez, they didn't give me the easy path.
	That's what dad says.
	You put you here.
	You put you here.
	What the hell did I do that for?
	Exactly.
	That's what everybody says to me.
	Why didn't I just put myself on Maui, Hawaii?
	Well, why am I here living not far from you either?
	I think that we, do you know what?
	I'm going to say this.
	One of the dangers of mediumship is that if mediums are not consciously aware of their real purpose, which is to help people understand who they are and to help people get in touch with who they are themselves, people get reliant or could get reliant on listening to messages or asking for help from spirit guides or angels, whatever you want to call it.
	That is not doing the work for yourself.
	You know, the real purpose behind all of this is to wake you up to who you are and to understand that you journeyed here because there was something that you were going to gain out of it.
	And I sometimes think that many of us obviously are challenged beyond belief.
	But, you know, I bet you wouldn't change any of that, Howard.
	I wouldn't change the experiences.
	I sometimes sit there and think, well, I've done all these wonderful, amazing things that a lot of people that I came up with just weren't able to experience and do.
	So lucky man from that point of view.
	Plus, I'm still doing it.
	But I sometimes sit and ponder on how certain people that I worked with got massively rich.
	How I ended up like this.
	But I try and be philosophical about it, as people in my situation probably do.
	And you think, well, there's got to be a purpose in all of it.
	And so let's go with the flow.
	That's what I'm doing.
	But that's me.
	And that's by the by.
	The cruise.
	October the 28th, it all starts with Tui Morella.
	They put on the cruise.
	I am hosting the sessions, including one with you.
	Just give me a rough idea.
	I know that you haven't started working it out yet, but what will you be bringing to, if I can call it that, the party?
	What will you be doing?
	Well, you know what?
	I think I'm going to bring to the party whatever it is that people want to hear from me.
	So I am always guided by my audience.
	When they come, if they ask me questions, they might be very challenging.
	So what I love about your listeners is they are inquiring and they don't just believe everything that they are told.
	I mean, that's what it's all about, isn't it?
	To find your own answers.
	So if I find I've got, you know, people, if people are coming on the cruise and they want to grill me about consciousness or the science behind it or, you know, my personal experiences and they want to hear my story so they can sort of chew it over in their own minds, agree, disagree, whatever.
	As long as it's all respectful, I'm completely open to that.
	Which it absolutely will be.
	But if somebody comes along, and I always have the feeling that many people are skeptical and then, you know, you talk to them and they say, but actually, I did have this experience and I've never told anybody about this.
	If somebody comes at you with one of those, are you going to be able to talk it around with them?
	Yep, can talk.
	I have now experienced so much in my lifetime.
	I am truly sitting in a level of awareness where I know I can cope with any question that's put to me.
	So if people are, what I don't do, the only thing that I don't do is I don't want to turn myself into a performing monkey because for me, it's about honest inquiry.
	It's about, you know, providing evidence of survival or deep diving or chewing over the fat.
	It is not about entertainment because we're dealing with the nature of the universe, consciousness, and who we really are.
	But if anyone wants to come and share me stories, tell me, come and tell me about your own experiences.
	And if you're having experiences spiritually and you're lost or you need guidance or you're fearful, you know, I can answer any of those.
	I can give you my own perspective on things.
	Genuinely, I can obviously teach about mediumship.
	I can teach about on spiritual topics on a vast amount of knowledge because the spirit world have given me that too.
	And also, obviously, you know, chew over any of the hard questions.
	They're hard.
	I don't have the answers to everything as to why, why we suffer.
	Even when I've asked, you know, my guides that, they tell me that, you know, suffering to them, what we would consider suffering isn't suffering.
	It's almost like a curriculum that we signed up for, that we don't have to suffer.
	Well, all of us suffer.
	We suffer physically and some of us have very difficult lives.
	Again, I had a client in the week who's got a highly disabled daughter and their lives are very difficult.
	However, she is able to really see the blessing in it.
	So, you know, it really is, I think, a perspective on suffering.
	So this is what I'm talking about.
	I don't have all the answers.
	I don't profess to have all the answers.
	I'm a normal, down-to-earth, hopefully human being who is trying to find the truth like everyone else.
	I just know that I've had experiences now that take me beyond belief into knowing that consciousness is not what we think it is.
	Just like you're saying how Cal Cooper is discovering that the process of dying isn't, you know, cut and dry.
	Same as what Dr. Sampania says, you know, about his studies in cardiology.
	There's so many scientists out there now that are all kind of coming in from different angles.
	We've got to start to think, I don't think we have all the answers here.
	And these people's experiences are valid.
	And that's what I'm bringing.
	I'm bringing experience beyond measure.
	Come and enjoy it.
	Yeah, and if I'd be uplifted.
	I hope I bring a bit of upliftment, playfulness, joyfulness, you know.
	And, you know, very importantly, I always say in everything that I do, whether it's the news that I did for all those years or whether it's this that I'm doing now, you can't be taking yourself too seriously.
	You know, I get people who email me and they take real exception to a particular guest or something that they've said.
	And I always say, well, you know, you didn't have to listen to it if it's making you upset and angry.
	There's no need to be stamping your feet, banging the table or knocking your head till it bleeds.
	Just turn it off, have a think, come back to something that you do want to listen to, but maybe give some thought to the fact that, you know, well, to the idea that something that is offered to you by way of information, maybe infotainment, whatever it might be, how can that be that it makes you angry?
	You know, it's there for you to broaden your mind or not as the case may be.
	You choose.
	And that's what it's all about.
	The point that I was going to make is that if you are in the session and you feel that some relative who's passed of somebody in the audience is wanting to get an urgent piece of information across, I'm not saying this is going to happen, but would you do that?
	Would you pass it on?
	Yes, I would.
	It would be at the, if you want the agreement of the whole audience and of the person.
	Naturally, that's what I do.
	Okay.
	But I'm not, you know, when I say I'm not a performing monkey, what I mean is I do demonstrations of mediumship all the time.
	But when we're going to do a demonstration, I'm in a very altered state of mind to when I may be doing a talk because I have to get into an altered state of consciousness.
	But yes, of course, absolutely I would.
	And if people want to hear from the guides, I would.
	It just depends on the audience.
	And when you say hear from the guides, I guess you're not going to make voices appear.
	Well, I wish I could make voices appear, like the wonderful Leslie Flint used to do.
	He was a medium who could produce into...
	Gee, well, you know that those sorts of things are very controversial, but I would be very keen to be at a session like that where something like that happens.
	So look, I think there's an awful lot to talk about.
	I love your openness and frankness and down-to-earthness about it.
	I describe you as the down-to-earth medium, and that you absolutely are.
	And for me, you're going to be a great person to have along on this.
	Just, you know, for you more than anything else, I think it's going to be great.
	And thank you very much.
	I really appreciate it, Howard.
	I can't wait.
	And I'll go, I honestly will go where life takes me and where the spirit world take me and where your audience take me.
	I can't wait.
	And I'm so honored to be on that cruise.
	Thank you for having me.
	If you want to see Claire's biography, it's at theunexplainedlive.com where details of that cruise are featured.
	And I look forward to seeing you again, Claire.
	Me too.
	I can't wait.
	Thank you, Howard.
	It's been a pleasure.
	Claire Broad, more great guests in the pipeline here at the Home of the Unexplained.
	Don't forget the cruise website is theunexplainedlive.com.
	Check that out.
	And my main website is theunexplained.tv.
	There's also my Facebook page, the official Facebook page of The Unexplained with Howard Hughes.
	You'll know it's the official one because it's got the logo on it.
	More great guests, like I say, in the pipeline here at the Home of the Unexplained.
	So until next we meet, my name is Howard Hughes.
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	And please, whatever you do, stay safe, stay calm, and above all, please stay in touch.
	Thank you very much.
	Take care.

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