Emergency Meeting Episode 22 - The Grand Adventure
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Oh, when you hear what I have to say, you won't be ready.
It's not very often someone has a story more interesting than my own life, so I'm certainly looking forward to it.
Well, you both had fun in prison, somewhat.
Speaking of fun, yeah, that's an interesting one.
So let me play the intro, and then we'll introduce you, and we'll go from there.
Sick, mate. I've got my headphones on because I'm a consummate professional in all things,
you know, so I have to wear them, make sure that I can hear things as I'm Mr.
Producer. So, anybody who doesn't know the background to who this gentleman is next to me, we're going to start from the absolute very beginning.
I'm going to give you an introduction. I'm going to explain who you are.
But you and I have already met, haven't we?
You met, was it a year ago? Oh, over a year now.
I think, what, a year and a half maybe?
A year and a half ago.
You had some interesting stories then, but I think you might even have some more interesting stories now.
And like I was saying, it's not very often I meet somebody who has life stories which are more interesting than my own.
Oh, thank you. I'm going to take second place for this podcast.
Usually I'm the guy with the stories, right?
Because stories come from risk.
Because without risk, there is nothing unique to the story.
If nothing could have gone wrong, then the story is not interesting to hear.
And you certainly had a story where things could have gone wrong.
Of course. Always, always.
I think every month I almost die and I just come out on top somehow.
But it makes the best story, like you said.
Bro, I'm glad you're here.
Let's start with that.
So let me give you a quick introduction.
I'll do it officially for you.
Miles Rutledge, is that how you say it?
Absolutely, man. Also known as Lord Miles, is a British student and vlogger known for danger tourism.
Which is where you go to the most dangerous places on earth.
In August 2021, during the Taliban offensive, Miles started an Ask Me Anything thread on 4chan, mentioning he was in Afghanistan.
He said that he planned a five-day trip to Afghanistan after searching for the 10 most dangerous countries to visit.
And he further added that he didn't believe Kabul would fall during his stay.
And you went super viral because you were literally in Kabul as America evacuated.
Is that true? Oh, yeah, absolutely.
I was making friends with the Taliban, with the SAS there.
Okay, so we have to start at the very beginning.
You're in Kabul, Afghanistan, while America evacuates.
Yeah. As the last ever tourist in the country.
I don't know if I should yell.
Bro, I like you.
I kind of want to yell at you.
What were you doing? Well, here's the thing.
Here's the thing. I think we can all relate to this.
I didn't want to get vaccinated.
And it was the only country in the world where you didn't need the COVID vaccine.
So I thought, I need a holiday before the job I'm going to start after uni.
I was going to go into banking. It was a shit job.
So I thought, I'm going to pop down to Afghanistan.
I'm going to get my adrenaline pump.
Not thinking the whole country was going to fall apart around me.
So you went to Afghanistan for a holiday because you didn't need the vaccine.
Exactly, yes. That's G. Thank you.
That's gangster. I mean, I'm anti-vax.
I think everybody knows that. I've managed to travel the whole world without injecting it into my blood.
But the fact that you literally went to Afghanistan for a holiday...
It was worth it. Okay.
So let's start at the very beginning. Because I have so many questions, bro.
This is going to be a long podcast. I have so many questions.
So, before Afghanistan...
Where was the most dangerous place you had been to?
Birmingham, England. If the people outside the UK don't know, it's the Detroit of England.
It's dangerous. I've lived in there most of my life.
I've been threatened with knives.
I've been mugged a few times as a kid.
It's deadly. I would say it's worse than Afghanistan.
It's worse than anywhere in the world.
I refuse to go to Birmingham. I will go to anywhere in the world but Birmingham.
Same with London most of the time.
Well, you're right. England is dangerous, but...
Okay. I'm just going to accept your answer.
But you're originally British, right?
So from a danger tourism perspective, what other places had you traveled to which are dangerous before Afghanistan?
Had you been anywhere that was dangerous?
Well, the first ever place I went to abroad was Chernobyl in Ukraine.
So the nuclear wasteland.
But I tried to justify it to myself saying, hey, I'm a physics student.
This is somewhat physics related.
But no, it was just sounds fun.
Let's do it. Okay, so you went to Chernobyl.
As you do, yeah. As you do, yeah.
Okay. And was that interesting, or is it just a desolate, radioactive wasteland?
Yeah, just a wasteland, just a place people abandoned.
Almost fell through the floor onto some barbed spikes, some rebar.
So that happened. Had to kind of pull myself up, grab myself, falling down.
But apart from that, only almost died once.
Happens for the best of us.
And then I took it as a sign, hey, I should keep going.
You know, I should keep progressing.
And I was like, hell, here we are.
So you went to Chernobyl, you got back to England, and you thought, I need another holiday.
Of course. Let me go to Kabul.
Of course, you need another holiday after the holiday, from the holiday.
Alright, so because my brain works in a very logical, linear fashion, let's start from the very beginning.
How do you get...
Can the average person, and we're not advocating for this because I don't want to be held responsible, can the average person in the UK right now fly to Kabul?
You need a visa. And I'm going to guess, as a professional, you will go via Istanbul, Dubai, somewhere?
Yeah, Dubai, Istanbul, maybe Islamabad in Pakistan.
The way I got the visa was I went there and I created my own company and I put myself down as a tourism company and I wrote on the letter, I, Miles Routledge, am giving myself a tour in Afghanistan.
So I invite myself to Afghanistan.
And then the London office said, I said, hey, we need a reason for your travel.
We need a document.
So I just got an A4 piece of paper and just wrote fun on it, slipped it over, walked out, and they approved it.
So you went to the Afghanistani embassy in London.
Yes, man. And you said, I want to go.
I need a visa. It needs to be organized by a tour group.
Luckily, I own a tour group.
I started my own and I'm giving myself a tour for fun.
And they approved your visa to Afghanistan.
I even said, I'll keep myself safe.
And I did. Okay, so then you get a visa.
Yes. You fly to Afghanistan.
You land in Kabul. Yes, man.
Is Kabul like a normal airport?
Is it like how I'd imagine an airport to be?
Do you land and there's like check-in and everything?
Because I've been to Baghdad. I went to Iraq like five or six years ago.
Oh, yeah. Interesting story.
I got invited to help a member of parliament who was fighting on a kickboxing show, and he invited all these famous kickboxers to legitimize the show and put us in the crowd.
So when we landed in Baghdad, and I've got some pictures I'll have to find and put them up.
We had VIP the whole way through, so I didn't see the airport or nothing.
But what is Kabul airport like?
Is it like a normal airport?
Yeah, it's very small, but completely normal.
You go through, you scan your fingers, they ask, why are you here?
And again, I present the document saying, fun on it.
When I got out, some guy greeted me.
He said, hey, do you want me to show you where things are, how to get out?
I said, oh, that'd be very kind of you, free of charge, I imagine.
You know, just messing with him.
He goes, yeah, yeah, free of charge.
So I start walking with him, and obviously just a five-minute walk, he goes, oh yeah, Sid, it's that way.
Hands out. We're good to go.
Oh, it's still there at the time.
Yeah, yeah. A few days before, I think three days before the fall of Kabul, they were putting stuff in, you know, armored cars and stuff.
They asked, what are you doing here? I said, oh, holiday.
They looked at me and they sighed and said, oh, I think I'm going to see you soon and just walked away.
Okay. Okay, so you get your visa.
You land in Kabul. It's a fairly normal airport.
You walk outside. They're trying the taxi scam or the scams to show you where things are, which, to be honest, isn't too unusual.
That happened to me in Moldova.
It happened to me in Moscow. It happened to me in lots of places that Famos.
So that's quite a common one.
So I'm trying to imagine now.
There's American army all over the place.
Yeah. Did you have a hotel booked?
Did you have somewhere to go?
Oh no, I didn't book a hotel. I just walked around until I saw one.
To be fair, there weren't too many tourists in the area, which I kind of expected.
I just walked in and said, oh yeah, one room police.
And they were like, what NGO do you belong to?
I was like, oh yeah, let me write myself a letter.
I'm joking. But I just said, yeah, just a tourist mate gave me a visa.
They gave me a funny look.
And they asked if I can have a visa.
They can have a visa to England.
Happens with everyone I spoke to, by the way.
Everyone wants to come to England for some reason.
I mean, I just went around like a Chinese tourist taking photos of everything.
It was a lovely holiday. So you just walk around, you find a hotel?
Yes, man. How much was the hotel?
Oh, about $50 a night.
It was a nice hotel. Very nice.
Had a pool, had a nice view, had a garden, breakfast included.
Okay. And when you answer this following question, I want you to try and answer as a layman, because you're clearly a very brave man.
So I don't want you to answer as yourself.
Because sometimes when you're trying to make people empathize and understand your story, you have to answer as yourself so they understand your worldview.
But you also have to then explain it as a normie.
I can do that. So as a normie, did it feel dangerous?
No, I wasn't in Birmingham.
You've got to understand. I was walking around and I saw people with guns and I thought to myself, you know what, if I get into trouble, everyone can be talked to, everyone can be reasoned with, everyone wants something and I can always provide it.
There's always a way out of a situation if you understand people and how to speak to them.
I think you understand that as well.
Well, that's true. And one of the things about Baghdad that actually surprised me when I was there...
Is how much I didn't stand out.
Like, I thought, oh, I'm going to stand out like a sore thumb in Baghdad.
But maybe because of the American occupation, they just assumed my brother and I were soldiers.
We were invisible. People didn't really pay much attention to us.
We were just walking around as normal, in crowds as normal.
Nobody cared about us.
Nobody asked us any questions.
Everyone had a gun. Yeah, but we were pretty much just like normal people.
Did you stand out? Were people coming up to you saying, what are you doing here?
Or is it just like, ah, just another guy?
No, just another guy.
Everyone in Afghanistan that is white, they all think they all belong somehow.
You belong to an NGO, you belong to some soldier, you're someone in some alphabet society or something.
So when I was there, no one questioned it.
Most of the time, when I went to a checkpoint, they said, yeah, just give me your military ID. Oh, you're not military.
Oh, yeah, NGO ID, sorry.
Yeah, yeah, no. And they were like...
Tourists? I was like, yeah, yeah. So only if you tell them do they care.
Most of the time, you're just another white guy in Kabul.
You just blend in. Everyone minds their own business because, you know, if you are an Afghan, which they knew, by the way, the Taliban were about to take over, and they were seen talking to another white guy, you know, there might be some insinuation.
They're colluding or something.
So everyone's kept to themselves. So I just had free reign walking around.
So when I was in Baghdad, there's another question for you.
Yes, man. I stayed in the hotel, and I can't remember the name of it now, which I should know.
It's the best hotel in Baghdad, and it was bombed two years before I stayed there.
It was heavily attacked. So when we got there, it's now militarized and it's a fortress.
But it was bombed and a bunch of people died.
But it was the best hotel in Baghdad where all of the foreigners stayed.
Yes, man. This is a side note.
I find it very strange when I was in Baghdad that especially in the reception of this extremely expensive hotel, there were so many Chinese people because they were rebuilding all...
America comes along and destroys these countries, but China gets the contracts to rebuild them.
So you had all these Chinese businessmen with like blueprints and loads of Chinese people everywhere in Baghdad.
I couldn't believe that one in three people I saw in Baghdad was Chinese, which really blew my mind.
Were there a lot of Chinese in Kabul?
No, no, but now there is.
Now there is. They're starting to come?
Yeah, China really bid their time and they said, okay, we know the Americans messed up.
We know they're going to leave.
We're starting negotiations with the Taliban.
And then as soon as the Americans left and Kabul got taken over by the Taliban, they instantly struck up mining contracts in the northern provinces, $300 million deals.
Infrastructure was just instantly imported.
So the plan was there. The Chinese were waiting in the shadows for the Americans to leave and just swooped in, then just took all the money from Afghanistan.
Okay. Okay. I'm getting ahead of myself because I have so many questions.
Of course. Okay.
I'm a bit jealous, but I have so many questions because this is such a cool story.
So I'm just trying to envision it for everyone at home.
You've landed in Kabul. You've gone through the airport.
You've found a hotel.
Somehow. And you're on holiday.
You're walking around.
You're taking pictures.
You're going to the pool.
You're effectively on holiday in Afghanistan.
Yes, mate. Okay.
Fine. Now...
Before we continue with this story, why do they call you Lord Miles?
Where did Lord come from?
Identity fraud. No, I'm kidding.
So... Yeah, technically, technically, yes.
I spoke to a lawyer and he said, oh, be careful with the story, Miles.
I'm just going to tell it anyway. I want to warn you, like, my channel, I'm anti...
The Matrix hates me. Yes, man.
So... Don't give the Matrix any reasons to destroy your life.
Oh, no, screw it. If anyone does any digging, I'll find out, so I might as well give the full story.
What happened was, at 18, I was homeless for three months before my A-levels, right?
So I was in a bad situation.
And then when I went to university, everyone thought, hey, we'll buy our friend Miles one of his lordship certificates.
You've seen them online. Yeah, I've seen it.
Yeah, yeah. And he thought, oh, homeless lord, that's quite funny.
You know, little gag joke.
But I got this certificate and I looked at it.
And this is before everyone knew about these things.
So I looked at it and thought, this is really realistic.
You know, this is high quality.
So I thought, you know what, I'm going to try and play the world.
And I put on my best suit.
I walked down to NatWest Bank at the time.
And I waited until lunchtime.
So I was really busy and everyone wanted to go on, go off shift.
And I walked in, put in my best accent and go, excuse me there, yes.
My father bought some land in Scotland, yes.
I would like to change my title.
And they looked at it and they go, wow, it's shiny.
It must be true. And he's got the accent and he's in a suit.
They photocopied it and it went on all my credit file.
So at that point I was Lord. And every single meeting I've ever done with a government or anything, they have to reluctantly say Lord.
Now, I know that's true, and I'll tell you how I know that's true.
And I would love to prove this, but I've been banned from every banking institution on the planet.
I'm on a politically exposed persons list.
I'm on what's called a pep list.
So, because I have opinions on the internet, I'm not allowed to bank anywhere.
England, New Zealand, Caribbean.
There's not a country on earth that will give Andrew Tate a bank.
I've been banned globally.
But before that, I remember I had an argument with somebody who went to university, and I was explaining that university is a waste of time and money, and I'm richer than they'll ever be, so what's the point in going?
And they said, ah, yeah, but life's not all about money, et cetera, the prestige, I've got a degree, I've got a doctorate, I'm a doctor.
And I said, bro, I'm a doctor.
They said, no, you're not. And I remember calling NatWest, purple card, NatWest, same bank.
Oh, yeah. I called NatWest and said, why have you sent me the wrong name on my card?
It says, Mr. Andrew Tate.
It should be Dr. Andrew Tate.
And they literally said, sorry, sir, new card on the way.
And from there, all of my cards said Dr.
Emory Andrew Tate. I was a doctor to every bank for a good two years.
I never had to go uni, never signed up, no student loan, and I was a doctor.
So I know what you're telling is the truth.
I recommend everybody at home to pull that off.
It's fun. So I was a doctor.
So I know what you're saying is true.
So that's how you became Lord.
Okay. And did you start your social media as Lord?
Or did you start as Miles Rutledge?
And then it came... I'm trying to get everyone to understand how you became famous.
Because you've been a niche internet celebrity for a while.
Oh, thank you, man. Well, I've been...
I was on 4chan at the moment.
I just thought, you know, I'm going to share this experience in Afghanistan.
It's going to be fun. People are going to ask me some questions.
Why not? You know, I didn't think it would blow up.
And my handle was Lord Miles.
So they asked, you know, why are you Lord Miles?
You know, what's this about?
And I just took a picture of my bank card, sent it for numbers and shown it.
And it was hilarious. So it just stuck at that point.
And all the media said, this guy called Lord Miles, he's holidaying in Afghanistan as the Taliban is taking over.
And ever since then, it's just my thing now.
But my goal, long term, is to become actually a lord.
So if the king asks nicely, I'll allow him to grant me lordship.
That's very kind of you, Miles. Thank you.
I'm generous, man. Very kind.
Now, before we cut the Twitter feed and move over to Rumble exclusively, which we're about to do, I want to say thank you to all the Super Chats.
Everyone knows I have my own charity, TatePledge.com.
You can go there and see who we're helping in the world today.
I'm going to play some video later showing who we're helping.
And also, you have some stories to tell about charity and NGOs and all these kind of things, so I think it ties in very well.
So thank you to everybody who sent us a super chat.
We have a $200 super chat, $150 super chat.
All of this money goes to Tate Pledge, and you can go to tatepledge.com to see exactly how it's spent.
We're the most efficient charity in the world.
Unlike all these other garbage charities that pay all our CEOs huge salaries and waste money, we literally just buy food, and I cover from my own money the cost of all the food, the cost of the visas, the cost of the accommodation.
We just send guys into the country to help people.
So thank you very much for donating.
Everybody who's on Twitter, we're going to move over to Rumble now.
And I'll give everyone a few minutes.
I'm going to play the intro again.
Give everyone a minute or so to move over to Rumble.com slash Tate speech.
And then we're going to continue with this epic saga from either the world's most brave.
No, I'm not going to call you anything other than brave.
You are brave.
You're very brave.
Stunning and brave, right?
Stunning and brave.
Yeah.
So we're going to play the intro and we're going to carry on with the story.
Good stuff.
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Right. So you've landed.
You flew. You went to Kabul.
Airport's fairly normal.
They want to see your visa. You show them your visa.
You walk out. You find some hotel.
It was a nice hotel. What do you do on your first day in Afghanistan?
Oh, first day I just go walking around to strangers and talking to them.
Some guys have guns.
I walk up to them and go, hey, can I have a picture?
Lovely stuff. I just start shitposting around.
I'm sharing everything on social media.
I'm just taking pictures of complete strangers.
They're saying, hey, there's one area just fell to the Taliban.
I go, hey, can we go right up to the border with it and try and take a picture?
Maybe I can get a little bit close to the Taliban.
Not knowing that two days later, the fall of Kabul would happen.
So that was pretty insane.
I was just doing normal tourism stuff.
Completely normal. Right.
There's internet in Afghanistan.
You can upload these pictures.
There's free Wi-Fi. It's dead slow.
Worst internet I've come across, apart from North Korea, I imagine.
But it works somehow.
It somehow worked. Okay, so you have internet.
And people speak English?
Somewhat, yeah. Which means very little.
But some people speak some English.
Some people just know a few words.
But everyone has a smartphone, so everyone has Google Translate.
And everyone wants to help you out.
That's a good thing about them.
Okay. So you're in Afghanistan.
You're walking around having a tourist thing.
So how did you know Kabul was about to fall?
How did you start to sense things were going wrong?
And what happened?
Tell me the story of you're in Kabul.
You've gone there as a tourist.
You've been walking around asking people questions.
You're in your hotel. And then surely something must have happened that made you think, uh-oh.
And surely as a human being, part of you must have been concerned and been like, maybe I'm here at the worst possible time.
I don't have the best possible time, man.
No, so what happened was I was walking around the street just doing some normal sightseeing.
And then everyone just starts looking at their phones and looking at each other, very concerned.
And you can read the body language.
The whole atmosphere gets really, really tense.
And what I find out is the Taliban have given an ultimatum to the current government saying, hey, either you go surrender and evacuate or we're going to take the place by force right now.
Everyone starts running for banks.
So the central bank, I remember the day before, I tried to take out $250.
The central bank did not have $250 to give me, $150 max.
So people are trying to withdraw their life savings from the ATM. In dollars or in the local Afghanistan economy?
Both dollars and Afghani, nothing is left.
The ATMs are dry even before people get there.
So everyone starts panicking. People are running around.
People start driving on the sidewalks.
Complete gridlock at that point too.
So I go, wow, it looks like the holiday's ending.
I should run to the UK embassy.
Of course, the embassy had just left as well a few minutes earlier, knowing this ultimatum was coming.
So the embassy evacuated? Yeah, the embassy evacuated.
They said they were going to stick around, but they didn't.
So lovely chaps, a bit cowardly.
But I thought, you know what? I need to go to the airport.
So I grab a taxi and I'm running to the airport, other side of the city, by the way, worst possible place I could be in.
So as I'm going there, I'm trying to book a flight on my phone, you know?
And it keeps getting denied.
My bank keeps getting denied.
And it's because it's £700, $700 in Afghanistan.
So it's raised a red flag.
So I'm quickly calling that West and I'm shouting at him, going, hey, Taliban are coming.
I need to unblock my account.
Thanks, bye! They unblock my account.
And then all the flights are booked.
So I'm like, fuck, I'm screwed.
And plus, every flight has been grounded.
So I think, you know what, this has gotten really interesting.
What do I do now?
And I see a kind of a group of white people walking around and they look like they're military guys, you know, contractors, that type of thing.
So, as I'm walking, I see they're walking towards this safe house they tell me about, where all the foreigners have been instructed to go.
So I think, you know what, this is a more interesting time to do this.
So I'm starting posting some photos, and then some Taliban corner me.
Okay, so you found white people.
Of course. Right? You found white people, and you said, I'll go with them.
Mm-hmm. And it's kind of interesting because every single time you're telling me these stories, I have a story which ties into a lot of them.
I had a story once. I fought on K1 in China.
Oh, really? This is a long time ago, and I can't remember the name of the Chinese town I was in, but it wasn't Beijing.
Let's put it that way. We landed in Beijing, and it was another three-hour flight far west, like the Mongol border.
Oh, very far. Yeah, where no one goes.
And I remember after my fight, I got dropped off at the airport.
They just left me there. And all of the airport boards are in Chinese.
I had no clue my flight had been canceled.
And I was going up to people trying to find out information.
And I guess they were afraid of the government.
If you get seen talking to a foreigner, maybe it's a crime or something.
But they were running away from me like they were afraid.
So whenever I go up to someone to say, excuse me, they'd go, no, no, no, no, and run away.
Airport staff, everyone would run away from me like I had COVID. Pre-COVID. Yeah.
And I was like, what's going on here?
And I was stuck in the airport by, I think it was six hours in.
I tried to buy a bottle of water with a $100 bill.
They wouldn't take it. I couldn't get water.
I couldn't get anything. And I did what you did.
I need to find a white person.
I need to find somebody who speaks English.
Who knows what's going on? Who knows what's going on?
And I walked around the airport for a good two hours until I found some German businessman who was in the steel business who also spoke Chinese, who managed to negate and fix the whole situation for me.
Very kind gentleman. I don't know his name.
Let's call him Hans.
Hans. Stefan. Stefan Strauss.
Stefan Strauss, if you're watching this, thank you very much for that time in China 11 years ago.
He managed to talk Chinese and fix it all, and I got on a flight to Bangkok.
Eight hours later. I remember that.
So I know what you mean. When things go wrong, you're like, okay, I need my people.
Exactly, yeah. Someone to explain without bullshit what is going on.
Because most of the time, it's all this bureaucracy.
No one has any idea.
But the white dudes always know.
Because they always come from the top, sadly.
Okay, you're right. So you found these white guys and you said, whatever you guys are doing, I want to do.
And they said, we're going to a safe house.
Yes. The safe house was owned by who?
Why is it a safe house? What is a safe house?
Explain a safe house to me.
Yeah, so it's basically a compound, full-on barbed wire everywhere, guards, concrete walls, you can't throw a rock over, that's how tall it is.
It's a fortress for such a situation.
It's right next to the airport too.
So I'm guessing this is where the emergency situation was happening.
The place was guarded up to hell and most people couldn't even get in.
And before this even happened, I got cornered by the Taliban before I even reached the safe house.
So it seemed like things were going south.
When did the Taliban corner you and where?
So I was just walking about halfway to the safe house.
And I saw some Taliban in the distance.
They started running towards us.
They started running. And I thought, you know, who are they running towards?
But of course, their eyes locked on me.
And to them, I looked suspicious.
They maybe thought I was someone else.
But they cornered me and they told the other guys, get lost.
We need to talk to Miles. And I thought, fuck me.
They knew your name? No, no, no.
But I was wearing a t-shirt at the time, let's say.
It had my name on it. Long story, long story.
I had funny friends, man.
Big regrets. But they called on me and they said, what are you doing here?
Who are you? Are you military?
Are you intelligence? What are you doing?
I was like, no, no, just a tourist.
I don't believe you. Where are you from?
And I said, oh, Wales. And he said, where's Wales?
Because you know, no one's heard of Wales outside of Wales.
No one's heard of Wales. That's true. No one's heard of Wales. Yeah, exactly. And I showed him my passport and I said, yeah, look, say United Kingdom, it means like a few countries have come together, you know?
And he said, so you're part of England?
I'm like, no, no, no, no, brother.
I'm not part of England.
England invaded us.
You know, one struggle, one struggle right here.
I'm on your side.
And they're like, holy shit, he's that guy.
And he'd shake my hand and say, so sorry about your situation.
Have a nice holiday. Just let me go.
So pretending to be Welsh, you're the first person in history where pretending to be Welsh somehow benefited them.
I'm sure that's true.
Exactly, yeah. I don't think anyone else in history has been Welsh to benefit, ever.
Okay, so then you follow these guys to this safe house.
These guys are English or American?
German, actually. Germans.
They're soldiers? I think so.
Okay. And they take you because you've come along and they let you in the safe house?
Yeah, they thought my story was funny.
So they were like, yeah, come on along, mate.
These guys have guns? No.
No, no, they ditched it. If they have guns, they might shoot on sight.
So, yeah, sometimes you have to give your weaponry up.
I understand that. So you get in the safe house?
Oh, not so easily, man.
Not so easily. So there's a big queue.
There's a bunch of Turkish people trying to get in that type of stuff.
So we walk to the front of the queue because, you know, we're white people.
And the guard goes, no, no, we're full.
No one else. No one else. And I go, what country are you from, mate?
He goes, I'm from Greece. And I go, well, I'm not Turkish, man.
Don't worry. Let me in.
Let me in. And he thinks this is funny.
They go, guy, come on in, man.
So I just tell a really crappy dad joke.
They just let me in. And the biggest mistake they did when they let me in, you know what they did, Andrew?
What? They gave me Wi-Fi. They gave me Wi-Fi to my hotel rooms.
Of course, I started live streaming.
So you're live streaming from a safe house?
Of course, yeah. And what's going on in this safehouse?
Are people concerned? Is there worry?
Are there armed guards? Have they set up sentry points?
What's happening? How do they know the safehouse won't be overrun?
Are they preparing for a final showdown against the Horde?
Yeah, they think mortars are going to start flying over.
They think we're going to be fully invaded.
We might be in the last day of our lives.
So everyone's panicking. Everyone's stockpiling.
Everyone's calling embassies.
No one knows what's going on.
No one knows what the plan is because it was meant to be a smooth transition.
The Taliban weren't meant to take over, but it was happening.
So we got special forces from every single country barricading themselves in here.
And then you've got a few Indonesian workers, so there's a huge language barrier.
They're panicking too. They work just normal construction jobs, you know, infrastructure, telecommunications.
It's a shit show.
No one knows what they're doing, but I'm just sitting in my room and thinking, you know, I've got something from the vending machine right now.
I have a right laugh. I'm going to post about this, you know.
Should be some fun. If I'm going to die, I might as well go out documenting it.
Well, that's true. There's no advantage to not documenting your absolute demise.
So, how long are you in the safe house for?
About two days. Two days.
And after two days, what happens?
How do you leave? What happens at the safe house?
Well, I meet some SAS guys, and they've seen me on the Daily Mail, they've seen me on all the news sites, and they're like...
You're that fucking guy.
I was like, yeah, man. They're like, we love you.
Come on up with us. You have a drink.
So these men, these group of soldiers were shit-faced before an operation about in four hours, right?
And they were eating Doritos, packing Pringles.
They were drinking. I haven't drunk alcohol before this, by the way.
It's my first time drinking alcohol.
So I'm just drinking, you know, a little bit of whiskey with some fucking SAS soldiers.
We're now in a new Muslim country where, you know, alcohol is clearly illegal.
And I think to myself, you know, this is a great time.
They start filming it too. They think it's hilarious.
They start showing me their weaponry and how to use it just in case.
I think, you know, this is all right.
And then afterwards, you know what it has to do?
There was a bunch of journalists meant to be adventure journalists, you know, the stuff that I actually do.
Wannabes. Yeah, yeah, wannabes, you know, just all for the show.
Pussies. Yeah, journalists.
Pussies. Fake. Probably booked a hotel in advance.
Crazy people. But they needed to get evacuated because they were very scared.
They didn't want to walk a whole five minutes just to the safe house, even though the Taliban at this point promised everyone safe passage.
So these men got charged, what, $30,000 for a five-minute walk?
They paid it, by the way.
They paid it. I bet they did. Yeah, so these SAS contractors, very happy men.
I bet they were. Oh, yeah.
Okay, so you're in the safe house, you meet the SAS guys, and the SAS guys say, we're leaving?
Yeah, they said, you know what, we've got a safe channel out, we've got C-17s flying in every five minutes, everyone's going out, man, come join us.
And you get on a C-17 American?
Yeah, yeah, no, British, man, British.
British C-17, that flies where?
Dubai. Dubai, so I got a free trip to Dubai, too, it was lovely.
Good stuff. So you land in Dubai and the saga's over.
It gets you better. So I get an email saying, sorry, Miles, you missed your connection.
You're technically having terrorism insurance, including your booking.
Here's a few hundred pounds.
So I thought, you know what, I profited off this holiday.
So you got paid? Yeah, basically, yeah.
And also I took some level three plates for me.
So the Americans are obviously envious of this.
All the stuff you guys left behind in Afghanistan, I took a good chunk of it with me and then sold it on eBay.
The Dubai people just thought, oh, this guy's walking around with body armour, he must be a soldier, he must be allowed this.
So if you just do anything with confidence, you can get away with it.
So I became an arms dealer, technically.
So this is when I first heard of you.
Because this is the first...
For everyone listening, this is not his most recent story.
Because this is when you first blew up on the internet, because it was the fall of Kabul.
You're there. Everyone's talking about how you went there as an adventure tourist.
It's all over the media. You manage to get out.
You get to Dubai. I guess from Dubai you fly home to England, a dangerous country.
Free flight again. Yeah, free flight home to the dangerous country of England.
Yeah. What happens then?
How long before you return?
And what made you think, I really want to go back to Kabul?
And please, please, make this make sense to the normal people.
It will not make sense ever.
That's why people follow me. It's a constant shit show.
So you fly back to England. What happens?
I put on my body armor because I'm in London now.
Just in case, you know. And I get given a free five-star hotel in Swindon.
Lovely place. Very dangerous, though.
Because of COVID. So the biggest concern for them is COVID at this point.
So I'm just laughing to myself.
I get free room service.
Lovely stuff. So I'm just sitting around.
The government gave you a free hotel.
Yeah. Yeah, as you do, yeah. I mean, they give it to all the other Afghans, and they have done for years, so why not me, I guess.
I guess that is true. I don't understand why the British government does that, but yeah, they do do that.
It makes no sense at all.
Yeah, actually, send them back, send them back.
At this point, I'm just sitting in the hotel, looking at the media spectacle.
Now, my university calls me up, and I know I'm in trouble at this point, because they don't want international attention.
But they can't kick me out, because I've got leverage against love for university, so I'm going to throw a name out there.
So you're in uni at this point. Yeah, I'm studying physics.
I'm in my, what, second year at this point?
Yeah, yeah. So you didn't do my doctor trick to avoid all that garbage?
Not yet. Not yet. I still have time.
You still have time? Yeah, I still have time.
And overall, what's your view of, and I know this is a side note, but I think you're going to say what I think you're going to say, and it ties into my overall message, because I believe the modern education system is the biggest waste of time.
Of course. Ever. And I think it's designed to put you in debt and indoctrinate you as a slave to the matrix.
So I'm very anti-traditional education because nobody learns anything of value.
Nobody gets rich. You get in debt.
You have to pay the government back.
You end up enslaved and they just pump your mind with propaganda for years.
So what did you think of university as a whole like?
A good 75% of lecturers, I thought, yeah, these people definitely got bullied in school.
They got a weird complex going on that they need to be respected.
And then suddenly they went into this niche little bit of research that no one cares about outside their niche circle jerk of autistic men researching some derivative or some chemical.
And they think they're important in their little field and they get paid like, you know what, 50 grand or something for dedicating, what, 20 years of research of their life.
And, you know, they express their power and exercise it on kids who actually respect them because they want to climb up in the world.
I just think it's a Ponzi scheme.
Honestly, if you want to earn money, I earn money selling Taliban merch.
I earn more in, what, one month than they do in one year, and they're meant to be geniuses.
Well, that's true. I mean, I can't sit here and tell people that it's a solid business idea for the average person, but it's proven itself to be effective for you.
Oh, yeah, yeah. And I think traditionally, and I've said this many times throughout my message, that when you find people who ended up rich, they usually did something a little bit unorthodox.
I've never met anybody who's truly rich who went to school, went to college, went to uni, got a degree, got in debt, got a mortgage, followed the prescribed system and ended up rich because the prescribed system is designed to enslave, is not designed to allow you to break free.
And this is a perfect time for me to mention university.com, which is at the bottom of this video.
You can see it there in the scrolling banner at the bottom because university.com is a genuine alternative to traditional education because we actually teach people how to get rich for real, which is what university does not want to teach you.
So it's a perfect time to mention. So you're not upset that you've missed any classes.
Oh no, no, no. I dropped out.
I dropped out of this point. You dropped out to go to Kabul?
They really doubled down.
I had so much dirt on the university.
I got one of the lecturers kicked out because he was raping kids through, what was it, Tinder?
He was catfishing people. He was one of my lecturers too.
I found out because I was famous in the university, even before the whole Kabul thing.
So I was very high profile there.
They didn't dare kick me out, but they tried to make my life hard.
They said, oh, Miles, you have to go to diversity meetings.
You can't publish a book.
You can't talk to the media. And I thought to myself, you know, this physics degree is a joke.
I'm never going to do any of this stuff in real life.
You know, I'm going to take a gamble here.
I'm going to drop out. I'm going to go my own way, see what I can do.
And if it messes up, I can always work another job.
Right. So you're back in England after this, and normally what happens, I mean, I have a story which is semi-famous on the internet where I went to Jamaica and I was robbed in Jamaica, and I said to myself when I was out, I'm never going back.
Didn't you think, I am never going back there?
Shirley Part, you thought, I pulled it off, I have the story, I can tell everyone now, there is no point in me going back to Kabul.
No, I thought, oh damn, I need to go back quick.
I thought to myself, holy shit, this is a great opportunity because now I can meet a whole different Afghanistan, you know, because everything's changed now.
So I thought, you know, if I go back, I'm going back to a different country effectively.
And plus, what makes a bad story?
Going to another country later on or actually going back to the country that I fled from?
You know what I mean? Why was I running from the Taliban?
You know, what's actually going on? Yeah, it's only the Taliban.
I mean... Yeah, man, it's not ISIS. I mean, I've met ISIS at that point, but that's another story, Andrew.
Lovely story. But...
They're back in England. So where's the next place you go?
You must have gone somewhere before you went back.
Yeah, South Sudan. I just thought, you know, I'll pop down to this country.
I saw a YouTube video, just an obscure one.
Isn't South Sudan extremely difficult to get a visa?
Yeah, I did the same trick. Same trick, just inviting myself, said I'll keep myself safe.
And they said, so true, Miles.
Here you go. And just gave me the visa within a day.
At the Embassy in London?
Yeah, Embassy in London. Well, no, e-visa.
So I didn't even see anyone. See, life is really easy, guys.
You just have to hack it and pull some strings, you know?
Okay, so South Sudan.
I'm sure you're full of a whole bunch of different stories about South Sudan.
Because I know, like, the country split...
And I saw some other videos on other people who were there, and that was pretty chaotic at the time.
And it's one of the poorest countries in the world.
And did you just turn up and get a hotel, just walk around?
Same thing? Yeah, I didn't even book it again.
Just didn't even book a hotel.
How long were you there for? A week.
A week. Only a week.
But I wish it was longer, to be honest.
In the north, there was a huge scare where there was three isolated clusters of a virus that killed people just randomly.
Like, a whole village just dropped dead.
So that indicates a bioweapon.
So at that point, I thought, you know, I'm not going to make two international diplomatic incidents in two weeks.
I'm going to, you know, go to the neighboring country, went to Kenya, did the whole East African thing.
You know, I felt like a white girl just wanting to travel a little bit.
Those white girls love travel.
Of course, yeah. And they love danger.
Totally, totally, yeah. Unfortunately, yeah.
And then what made you decide, that's it, it's time.
I really miss Kabul.
Oh, I see.
Finally, there's a tourism visa available.
So it wasn't, oh, I want to do some risk assessment.
I saw it was possible.
And as soon as it was possible, I did it.
So the tourism visa was suspended for a while.
Yeah, yeah. You know, the visa was in flux.
No one knew what was being accepted.
People were getting denied. But now there was a new standard setting.
I thought, this is a perfect time, ladies and gentlemen.
Perfect time. Okay.
Someone's saying Matrix Attack.
It's okay now, Matrix Attack.
I don't know what they're talking about. Hmm.
Hmm. Is that okay?
Alright, I don't know what they're talking about. So I've got a few photos we're going to play here, if we can.
There's a few photos I'm going to show here.
I'm just going to randomly choose random photos, and you can explain to us what they are.
Oh yes, man. Oh yeah, that was...
So what is this? That was my latest holiday I went on.
So you know when I spent eight months in Taliban prison?
Yeah, I was...
So we're getting ahead of ourselves now, because this is when you went back, right?
Well, no, this is my fifth trip to Afghanistan.
Fifth? Fifth, yeah.
Oh, I'm addicted. It's a lovely country.
Yeah, same in prison, too.
I had my laptop in prison, by the way, so I was just taking selfies.
Good stuff. You want to look at the third one right there, that one, man.
Or the group selfie. Bottom left, third one, yeah.
This one? Yes, man. Yeah, so that's me.
That's me and the Taliban right there.
My Tali bros. Top T's.
Tali bros. Top T's.
Absolutely, man. Well, I mean, I'm not going to say they're not the top T's.
They literally beat the American war machine.
Yeah, man. They had nothing.
They started with nothing, and then they ended up having the country back after 20 years.
That's pretty gangster. It's hard to deny.
That's pretty impressive. It's very respectable.
They took on the strongest country in the world and won.
And they're very happy about it.
So let's talk about how you ended up on your last trip, which is...
Because I was concerned for you.
I want everyone to know at home...
Why? It was in Birmingham. You were in Birmingham, but I was worried.
I had my own little stint in jail.
And when I got out of jail, within the first three to four days, I remember thinking...
Is he out of Afghanistan?
Because you vanished.
Oh, he was in the middle of it.
Yeah, that's it. You vanished off the face of the planet.
Everyone's talking about how you were kidnapped or killed.
No one had heard from you. And I remember getting out of jail and saying, surely he's out.
And no one knew. Still nobody knew what was going on.
And I was messaging these large Twitter accounts based in Afghanistan saying, does anybody know what's happened to this guy?
I'm worried about him. And everyone's like, no, we don't know.
We don't know. So you go back to Kabul.
Yeah, fifth time. For your fifth time.
We don't have time to talk about all the other trips.
Other stuff was just business and meeting people and networking, as you do.
As you do, yes. As you do, yeah.
To be fair, here's a tip.
If there's a new government, like a drastic change, you want to make friends with those people, if you want to do some big business.
If you grow into that and make yourself necessary, there's a lot of money to be made.
I'm sure there is. Yeah, that's probably very true.
That's a good tip. Just disclaimer, before the Daily Mail prints an article, I'm not advocating for anybody to go to Afghanistan or Kabul.
I'm just trying to find out.
Because what they're going to do is they're going to say, Andrew Tate, toxic influencer and misogynist, is encouraging young schoolboys to go visit Afghanistan.
And no, I am not. I'm just trying to understand your story.
Of course. Because it's Extremely interesting.
So how did you end up?
So the last eight months, you've been in prison.
Nine months? Eight months, yeah.
For eight months, you were in jail.
So let's start. You fly back to Kabul.
Start from the beginning of this trip.
You're doing business. You're going in and out of Kabul.
You've decided this is how you're going to make your fortune.
Yes, man. So at this point, I've been selling Taliban merch.
So you know the Taliban headbands, you know the Taliban shoes, this type of stuff.
I can buy it up dirt cheap and resell it in the West at a nice markup.
And I admit that because I'm the only one doing it and it's really hard to get your hands on them.
So I had all the permits.
It was all good. And when I got back, I would make a nice little chunk of change.
And I thought, you know, this is good business.
It's better than what I wanted to go into, which was investment banking.
And I was like, you know, I'm going to go back for a fifth time.
I'm going to do some big business.
Now, Andrew, you know that there's tons of Chinese in Iraq.
Now there's tons of Chinese in Afghanistan.
And do you know why? Why?
There's minerals, tons and tons of gold everywhere.
The Chinese paid $300 million as soon as the Taliban took over for the mining rights of the northern provinces.
Because there's so much money to be made there.
Three trillion dollars of minerals.
And you know what? Every other country had tried to invade Afghanistan.
You know, the Soviets, the English, the Americans, NATO. And you know what?
I thought, you know, I'm not going to invade it, but I want a little chunk of it.
I want a little bit of business. You want to be involved in the action.
Yeah, you know what? I want to make everyone happy and I want to make myself happy.
I align everyone's pockets.
I align myself's. Well, I understand that because I had a saying I said about money a long time ago, and I said that money is a lot like water.
Oh, yes. And it's like the precipitation cycle where it rains and then it falls into a river and then it flows downstream into the ocean and then it evaporates up into a cloud.
Then the cloud moves and it rains somewhere else.
Money is always moving.
Money is never staying still. Even if you put your money into a bank, the bank is using that money.
The bank is either lending that money out or investing that money.
When you have money in your pocket or in your bank, you spend it on things.
So it goes to another company and that company uses that money for other things.
If you go buy a Starbucks, you've spent the money, the money has moved.
Starbucks buys cups or beans from Colombia, the money moves again.
Money is always moving.
And if you want to get very rich, what you have to do is identify ways in which money is moving and put yourself in the middle.
Just like the precipitation cycle.
If you put yourself in the middle of the cycle, you're going to get wet.
If you can see how the water is moving, if you can be in the way of that river, or if you can be standing under the cloud when it rains, you're going to get rich.
So what you did is you identified that a lot of money was moving in this area.
A lot of money is being moved around.
So if I'm kind of near it or close to it, I stand a chance of getting some money, which makes a lot of sense.
If you want to get wet, you go near the water, right?
Exactly. So if you want to get rich, you go near the money.
So I understand that mindset.
It's very brave. I'm not sure exactly what your plan was, and we don't want to reveal that to the world in case anyone tries to steal it, but I understand.
So you go back with the intention of becoming a mining mogul for the northern province of Afghanistan, which the Chinese have bought the mining rights to.
So I was going down south at this point because the Belt and Road Initiative...
I was covering up north.
The Chinese didn't want to go down south.
And from what I understood, the Taliban did not want any more Chinese influence around the country because they saw what's happened in Africa.
They don't want the Chinese monopolizing the country.
And they go, you know what, we want someone else, but no one's touching us.
And plus, if you've done deals with the American government, which most big companies have, you're ineligible.
So I was the only person who was going there and looking at the opportunities.
And all the data was there, Andrew.
The Americans had taken the samples, the core samples, and wrote a written report saying, hey, exactly this much gold is here.
This is how you get it. The number's all here.
And I thought to myself, there's literally money in the streets, buried inches below my foot, and no one's taking it out and putting it in their pockets.
Okay, before we carry on with this story, because I need to collate my thoughts and make sure I can ask the right questions to get this in a nice chronological order for everyone at home to understand.
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So, we're showing another picture here of you with the Talibros.
Oh, yeah, man. Not my talifos, honestly.
Not the talifos. Yeah, talifos.
Right. So you're on your trip back.
You've gone back. You've gone to the Kabul airport.
I guess you found a hotel. Same story, right?
Yeah, yeah. Normal stuff. Normal stuff.
So how do you end up arrested?
How long are you in Kabul before you're arrested?
Yeah, man. So I go down to a neighboring city called Jalalabad.
I call it Jalala good because I like it, to be fair.
And then I go to a Western Union because the ATMs don't work there.
You can Western Union money to Afghanistan?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's only a few ways to get money into Afghanistan.
One of them is Western Union because it's controlled by the Americans.
You know what I mean? The Americans don't want Afghanistan having sovereignty, so they've blocked everything.
No swift transactions.
It's really terrible. Yeah, it's sanctioned to the roof.
Yeah, exactly. But you can Western Union money into Afghanistan.
Yeah, exactly. So I've got a house in Afghanistan at this point.
It's rather crazy. And I need to pay rent, you know.
You rented a house? Yeah, wagey, wagey stuff.
I didn't buy, but that's on the table for another trip.
How much is rent in Afghanistan?
Too much, man. The American price is still there.
The three-bedroomed house, about $300 I found in Central Kabul.
Quite nice, quite nice.
That's not bad, but I guess it's not that cheap.
Considering you're in Kabul.
Yeah, yeah. You know, it should be a lot cheaper for the average state people.
You know what a lot of people don't know, though?
A lot of people don't understand that a lot of the most dangerous countries and places you don't want to visit are actually very expensive.
Oh, yeah. Africa's the same.
You think, oh, Africa's cheap because it's poor.
No, it's because of international sanctions, because of all the problems, because of how hard it is to access money, because of the banking, etc.
It's actually an expensive place to go.
Oh, the UN as well. They raise the prices because they spend all the time there.
Sorry, they make nothing for the locals because the locals are unprofitable compared to white dudes turning up, you know, for charities and such.
It's crazy. Anyway.
So you have a house and by now you have a house.
You live, you basically half live in Kabul.
Yeah. You have a house. Yeah.
I live maybe one day a week, one day a month in England and every other day is just abroad somewhere.
How do you pay your electricity bill in Kabul?
Like, you're renting this house. Are utilities included?
Yeah, yeah, utilities included.
It's a great setup. Honestly, I do recommend if A1 wants to go nomad and get out of the West, Kabul would be quite nice.
I don't recommend that, but it's nice that you recommend it.
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I want to donate to Tate Pledge.
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And we're going to continue with this story. So you have your house.
You've landed in Kabul. You've gone home.
Yes. And you're in your house.
And then what happens next?
How long were you in Kabul before you got arrested?
Well, I realized, I think it was a few days, but I realized, I need to pay rent.
I need to get some money out. I need to go to Western Union.
So I sent myself about $1,000.
And in Afghanistan, you must understand, this is a suspicious amount.
It's a lot of money. $1,000 is.
Oh, that's one of my friends. Lovely lads.
And we get told, hey, wait here a second.
And we wait. And they go, no, you can go now.
So when we walk out, we get back into the car.
I've got $1,000 in my pockets in Afghani, which is, you know, this activist high.
Because the Americans screwed over the currency when they made it.
It's all hyperinflated.
And then suddenly, you know, we got a guy with a machine gun, just stands in front of our car.
One guy pulls out a handgun, points it close to my head, and they go, you're under arrest.
We need to investigate what you're doing this money for.
A bit suspicious. We know who you are.
You've been here five times.
Why? So they knew how long you'd been there?
Yeah, yeah. So they're not completely unorganized.
They know what's going on. No, they're very organized.
They know their people. Their intelligence agency is actually very good.
It's called the GDI, the General Directorate of Intelligence.
And they're on the ball with things, absolutely.
So they want to investigate me.
I think, you know what, fair enough.
I would question why I've been in Afghanistan five times too.
I don't want to keep interrupting this story, but for me to understand it, I have to keep asking questions.
So the GDI are the Afghani Internal Intelligence Service.
Yeah, like MI6, CIA. Okay, and were they working with the Americans originally, or are they the Taliban's new services?
No, yeah, so they're the Taliban.
They're the OG people.
They're the OG. So they've come along and got rid of the American-led intelligence services, and they brought in the Taliban ones.
Yes. Which is called the GDI. Yes, exactly.
Okay, and the GDI's goal is to preserve the sanctity of...
I guess, civilized life inside of Afghanistan.
Exactly. They don't care about any other countries or what they're doing.
They only care what happens inside Afghanistan.
And they want everything to be safe.
They want to decrease terrorism or anything that might cause problems for the average Afghan people.
They want shady stuff to stop, basically.
And you know what's interesting? And this is a side point, but most people, especially humans, we all gravitate towards peace.
And this is actually quite an interesting point I can make in light of the current situation in Israel-Gaza, because you have a lot of people on Twitter who are calling for war and calling for destruction.
It's very easy to call for war and destruction when it's far away and you're on Twitter and you want to sound like a tough guy.
But the reality of life is that when you reach a point of genuine violence or disorder or chaos...
You're naturally going to gravitate towards peace.
And as bad as the Taliban are supposed to be, the boogeyman that we say they are, if they can preserve society and keep things peaceful, they're going to be appreciated by the general populace.
Because if you don't have the Taliban, you have chaos.
And people would rather have something they understand, better the devil you know, than absolute chaos, right?
Because the Taliban do have law and order, a version of law and order.
Oh yeah, it's very strong too.
You don't want to mess with the Taliban.
No, no, of course not, no.
And if you're a normal man living a normal life, you don't want your store to be robbed, you don't want your daughter to be raped, so you need to have some degree of law and order which is feared.
Yeah, exactly. Which is going to be the Taliban, right?
Yeah, the Americans never understood that, and that's why Afghanistan always had loads of problems.
But as soon as the GDI came in, I even saw the difference.
The streets, peaceful, no prostitutes, no robberies, no hold-ups, no nothing.
Everyone is in their place and acting well, which is excellent to see.
So the GDI know what they're doing. Exactly.
So you've been there five times, you've just got a big chunk of money, and they bust in your door?
I'm in the car at this point about to drive.
Oh yeah, the car. Sorry, they come up to the car and they put a gun up.
Yeah, and they go, you know, stop, get out, come with us.
You know, we need a question. I go, you know what, that's routine.
No problem, man. No problem.
And you go with the GDI. Yeah, and I'm with two friends at this point.
They're from the West. This is their first time, by the way, so I'm very sorry to them, publicly.
You brought them? Yeah, yeah.
They were my business associates.
They had PhDs, so they've gone down a normal lifestyle.
But they really wanted to do...
You convinced your friends to come to Kabul.
Oh, they wanted to come. They begged me to come.
And I thought, you know what?
I think I better give them a chunk.
They saw how much money I was making, how much fun I was having.
And they wanted a piece of that.
You know, they realized their lives were incredibly boring, man.
And they just wanted a piece of adventure, really.
They wanted just to travel, I guess, like every white woman.
No joke, I've got one person in my DMs every single day going, Miles, I want to go to Afghanistan right now.
Tell me how, and I will go.
So all three of you are taken by the GDI from this car?
Yes, man. Just a normal investigation.
They always, in the news headlines, they tell this nonsense.
They always say, oh, secret police kidnapped them.
No, no. It's their government.
They formally arrested me and detained me per question.
Formally? Like you got papers and stuff?
Yeah, exactly. Paperwork?
Yeah, yeah. They showed me everything.
They walked me through everything.
They read out, you know, this is what you're entitled to.
If you want this, we can give you this.
It was very, very professional.
And that's why I appreciate it. More professional than the Romanians.
Of course, yeah. No, when you hear what I went through.
I didn't have a clue what was going on.
So they actually said, oh, here's your rights.
Here's what you're allowed. Bro!
Oh, yes. See, what I mean, I was kind of enjoying it.
I mean, I was like, wow, it's another experience.
It's a lovely holiday. Okay, so you go for questioning.
Can you say what they ask you?
Well, I don't think for Taliban national security, I shouldn't be all there.
But basically, they say, you know, why are you here?
You know, typical stuff. Normal stuff.
Yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, I do this, this type of stuff.
And they go, you know what?
Your name has come up a few times, to be fair.
We need to do a more in-detailed investigation.
Sorry about this happening to you, but we're going to look after you.
You'll have no problems. If you want, we're going to take you out for a meal before you go to a waiting room, basically.
You know, we're going to drive to Kabul.
We're going to give you one of these armored trucks at the Taliban ride.
You know, one of those SUVs.
Very nice. We're going to take you for a nice restaurant meal beforehand.
So you go out to eat? Yeah, I go out to eat with the people that arrested me.
It's lovely stuff. Me and my friends are laughing.
We're taking selfies at this point.
I tell my friends, you know, something's going up.
So, you know, if I don't respond, I'm just in custody.
No problem. Like, you know, it's another adventure.
And then we go to the main GDI headquarters in Kabul.
So it's near the Russian embassy.
It's a lovely place. The Russian embassy is staffed?
I think so, yeah. I think the Russian embassy is open.
This is a few doors down.
Okay. So, after the meal, they take you to this waiting room.
When did you know...
That you're going to be there for a long time.
When did you know, uh-oh, this was not just a routine investigation or a routine question.
I'm going to be stuck here for a very long...
Was there a time it clicked?
Or was it day by day?
Like, what happened now? Oh, yeah.
So, when we first got questioned everything, I thought, you know, I'm going to clear stuff up.
Should be no problem. But when they started lining up things, I realized, oh, you know, they suspect something bigger.
Of what, though? What could you be doing?
To be fair, you joke about this, but there are a ton of spies in Afghanistan.
That I hate that shit!
Yeah. Now I'm mad!
You really just fucked me over.
Bro, you know what the thing is?
And this goes into all the things I say to people.
I say, you can't be rolling with bitches.
You can't be rolling with pussies.
You need to know who's on your team.
You never know how people are going to rap when the pressure turns up.
The greatest thing about me and my team, like when I sat with Tristan in jail, they would have said to me, oh, Tristan told us I could have laughed out loud.
No way! I would have bet my life on it.
This guy, you took him on a holiday and he pussies out and fucking sells you down the river?
Oh, exactly. He's not used to stress, so he just fumbled.
Pussy! You know, I always give people one chance.
Now it's gone. Pussy!
Yeah. Did they even let him out for being a little bitch?
Oh, yeah. 13 days my two friends were in.
Vendi went back home. Bruv!
I was there eight months.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. So obviously, if you hear, hey, we think he's a spy, and then one of my close friends, my best friend, tells the Taliban GDI, hey, this guy's maybe a spy.
That is unbelievable. That genuinely upsets me.
And I don't want to disrupt the flow of this story.
But I've talked about at length on my podcast and on emergency meetings about how important it is to make sure that you create your circle.
That's why we have the war room.
That's why we have certain things they say are the sum of the five people you spend the most time with.
And it's amazing how people will change when it's no longer in their benefit.
You'll be amazed. Everybody does it.
In fact, I would actually argue, and I obviously have no statistics for this, but I know everything because I'm top G. 95% for nearly all law enforcement is based on getting people inside the inner circle to rat or flip or lie.
That's all they do. They get everyone, you, all your mates, and they just put pressure until someone cracks and lies.
That's all they do. That's how law enforcement works in every country, not just Afghanistan, in all of them.
So you'd be very careful who you're rolling with.
So you're taking this guy on a nice holiday and he pussied out and sold you out.
Exactly. Bro. The good thing is, he was meant to be my partner in the goldmine.
Guess who has his share now?
He's cut out. You know what?
If the goldmine goes forward, it's worth millions, guys.
Hundreds of millions, so it's worth it.
So, they've sold you out.
And GDI said to you, we think you're a spy.
Yeah. So you're going to stay here.
We're going to stay here. But you know what, Miles?
We think you're maybe not a spy.
You know, we need to do some more questioning to take some time.
We really have to comb through your phone, comb through your laptop.
Really do our research, because fair enough, that makes sense.
But we're going to put you in a nice guest house for now, and you're going to have some staff looking after you.
If you need anything, you tell them.
But spying for what? What would you be spying on?
For a British. That's the thing. They didn't know what.
And telling the British what?
I don't know. That's the thing too.
I'm not a spy, so I have no idea what goes on.
And the thing is too, Andrew, this is what I know about spies, this is what I found out.
If you are a spy and you get caught and arrested, most of the time you just admit it.
You just admit it. You go, yeah, I'm a spy.
And they go, yeah, yeah, no problem.
You know, we're not going to cause any problems.
You go to the international jail for maybe one or two years.
And then you go home. That's usually what happens in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, all these countries.
You know, if you are a spy and get caught, you just admit it.
That's To prevent torture.
Basically, yeah. But I know in Afghanistan they do not do torture.
The GDI have been very good with us.
So they think you're a spy. Alright, okay.
And you go to this guest house.
And then I guess it's just week on week it just starts adding up time?
Yeah, they're just asking questions.
They come with a translator. How often do they question you?
Daily. Every day?
Every day for a week or two.
Yeah, they say, you know, why did you come here?
What did you do? You know, Miles, we know you were a spy.
We found something. Just admit it and then we'll let you go or stuff like that.
You know, every single angle you could think of, they pushed out and said, no, not a spy, mate.
Not a spy. Not a spy.
Not a spy. Not a spy. Not a spy. At one point, one of the top commanders came and said, I like you, Miles.
I like your social media. You've done some good stuff for us.
You told some honest truth. If you just give us a spy document on your laptop, on your hidden drive, we'll keep you here.
You'll have a cushy life. You'll wait, what, two years?
You'll go home. Don't worry about it.
We just want to see what the British or the Americans or NATO want to look at.
We just want to look at the details, Miles.
And I go, sorry, I can't give it to you, man.
And at this point, he started realizing, you know, this guy's probably not a spy.
So when I was in jail, my number one concern was I was trying to find and get a compendious, concise, coherent timeline for my release.
So I was talking to people saying, this is a joke.
Very much like you, I was accused of something that I didn't do.
Of course. And I'm like, this is a garbage.
How long am I going to be here?
What do you need from me for me to go home?
Like, were you not asking them, I'm not a spy.
I will prove to you any way you want.
I'm not a spy. How do I get out of this place?
Like, were you asking them a very simple, straightforward question?
How do we solve this situation so I can get on a plane?
Oh, I was, yeah. But the thing was, it was still an investigation.
And of course, with such serious charges, they just didn't know.
They weren't the people who made the decision.
Who made the decision? Some people back at headquarters, they gather the information, like any good court system, and they send it to them and they go through a whole court process and they go guilty.
Like any other judicial system.
Yeah, basically. They're the investigators.
They compose a file.
Yeah, yeah. And they send the file on to a judge.
Yeah, they see how strong the evidence is, you please your case, that type of thing.
So would you say the Afghani judicial system is fair?
I think it's solid, yeah. Honestly, I had no problems.
No, I did commit one crime.
I've got to admit. I've got to admit because it would be unfair if I lied.
I didn't have permits to go to one gold mining site.
You have to have permits to go in certain areas because if you're just wandering around mountains, the Taliban think, you know, why are you going there?
I didn't have that permit. I want to apologise to the Taliban for that.
That was my mistake and won't happen again.
But one crime and obviously the whole spy thing wasn't true.
And they found that out after a few meetings.
And when they discovered this guy has been coming to Afghanistan, he said some good stuff, some honest stuff about the country.
He's made some good videos about it.
They love my YouTube video, by the way.
One of me shooting guns with the Taliban.
So let me reiterate this to everyone at home.
Anyone who's not been through a judicial process, and I've recently just been through one, the way it typically works is they try and separate all the systems to prevent corruption.
So what happens is the police officers just have a very simple job, which is to collect evidence and to collect you.
They take you, they put you somewhere, they collect evidence that you've done a crime, they put together a file, and then it goes to a judge, which is supposed to be a completely separate branch of the state, who then reviews the evidence and decides if there's enough evidence to hold you, to charge you, to put you in jail, whatever.
And the reason it's separated is so that the police themselves are not the ones who decide you go to jail.
The judge doesn't meet you, doesn't know you, he just looks at the evidence, the hard evidence in front of you.
Obviously in corrupt countries, in some countries, they're very linked, right?
So when the police put together a file, the judge is like, well, I trust the police because the police are Afghani.
I'm Afghani. He's from wherever.
Who cares? Jail. That's how it works, typically.
And it can work in lots of different countries this way.
There's some very rich countries, I'm not going to say the names of, where you will be surprised how the courts, the judges, are working hands in hands with the prosecution to ensure that people are getting destroyed and wrecked And I don't even have to say the names because the brain understands what I'm talking about here.
So your number one concern when you're in a judicial process is, are the judges fair?
Are the judges going to review the evidence against me and come to a fair conclusion?
Or are they bought, paid for, corrupt, or hands in hands with the prosecution and just instantly going to say I'm guilty just because they can say I'm guilty and they're a judge and no one can do anything about it anyway?
But you're saying in your experience what you truly believe is they investigated you, they composed their file, and it was sent on to a judge, and you believe the Afghani system, the Afghanistani system under the Taliban is a fair judicial system.
Oh yeah, it's not corrupt. Corruption in a Muslim country is very hard to find in Afghanistan.
It's true. It's better than Romania.
It's way better than Romania.
We're in Romania right now, so I don't want to make any headlines.
But um... Oh, it's Hoover.
No, no. But I'm flabbergasted, and I'll tell you why.
Oh, yeah. I'm flabbergasted because that's the primary concern, right?
And the fact that they have such a separated system, and obviously under Islamic law, corruption is against the rules, of course.
But there's going to be a degree of prejudice that exists within the tribalism of humanity.
That's reality when they are Afghani as a judge and the prosecutor or the police officer is Afghani and you are a foreigner Especially based on I don't know the fact that Kabul just fell and the very interesting history of Afghanistan It'd be very easy for them to just assume the worst or perhaps look at some evidence Which isn't that damning and make a mountain out of a molehill?
It's very easy But you're saying it was actually very that you believe they were doing a very fair job which impresses me and I'll tell you why I was having a conversation with one of my friends the other day I won't say who and he was talking about a judicial process.
He's going through and he's saying I Don't know where I can get a free shot anymore. I don't believe in the American judicial system Look what they're doing to Trump. I don't believe in the British judicial system.
Look at some of the decisions they make.
If you're an enemy of the state, or if the media don't like you, or if the public don't like you, they will screw you over regardless of how innocent you are.
And the judge is bought and paid for based on public opinion.
And he's directly going to do exactly what the prosecutor wants.
And he was trying to go through and name countries to me and explain to me how difficult it is to have a free and fair judicial system.
He was explaining to me that the French system is a complete mess.
The Spanish system is a complete mess.
The Japanese system is one of the worst.
They have a 99.8% conviction rate.
You do not have a 99.8% conviction rate without putting innocent people in jail.
If a prosecutor says you might have done something in Japan, the court says you did it, you're going to jail.
Done. You're not going to win in court.
It's over. So you're saying...
That you get a fair shot in Afghanistan.
So if you're in Afghanistan and you do something wrong, you get a fair chance.
Exactly, yes. That's good to know.
It was very fair. I wish you told me this before.
I had this conversation like a week ago and I was saying, bro, I don't know where it's fair.
I didn't invite you. But I didn't cross my mind.
It didn't cross my mind in Afghanistan.
I should have known. See, every time I tell someone to have a holiday in Afghanistan, they laugh.
But look at me. I enjoyed myself and I was treated fairly.
No problem. So the basic story is you spent eight months in a guest house while they investigated.
Yes, man. Correlated evidence.
Yes. Put it in front of a judge.
Yes. And the judge decided you weren't a spy.
No, I want to spy. The only thing is I didn't have a permit.
Very small crime.
Most of the time they were just laughing at it.
They were like, you know, you're not familiar with our rules.
These guys spoke English? Yeah, yeah.
They had one guy, fluent English, translator.
The other top commanders spoke conversational English.
Very good men. Very good men.
They spoke like eight languages.
Some of them were actually doctors, so some of them were PhDs.
Maybe they pulled the same trick you did.
But honestly, they were solid.
And it got to the point where they found me interesting.
And they were like, you know what? You want to do business here?
Let's talk business. So I was having picnics with the Taliban intelligence, with the Taliban commanders, with some of the ministers in Afghanistan.
At this point, it was just one big networking event for me.
And I rather enjoyed it. That's me in Taliban prison right there.
Good stuff. I'm smiling.
Everyone thinks I'm being beaten.
I'm being tortured. They think, oh, I'm regretting my situation.
I'm smiling ear to ear right there.
Describe, if you will, Afghanistani jail to me.
So you're in this guest house. So it's not the normal jail.
No, no. Did you see the normal jail?
No, no. So this is for the small criminals, the people who may have made a small mistake.
You know, something genuine, something that hasn't directly hurt someone or isn't a huge security risk to Afghans, like a spy or a terrorist.
So this jail is just a normal guest house being converted.
There were eight Taliban people.
Now they introduced themselves to me as my servants.
And I was their guest.
You know, if I needed something, I asked them through Google Translate or through the Pashto that I know, and they would get it for me 100% of the time.
If I wanted, you know, a movie downloaded, I would give them Tim Ashgani or they would pay and they would go to the market and get it for me.
They went to extreme lengths to get exactly what I wanted.
And he did it for the other people too that were there.
It was a normal house.
Of course, sometimes I was allowed outside on supervised visits to the market.
Uh, once I went to a Kabul water park, uh, with the guys, that was good.
So it was like, it was like a full on holiday.
If anything, I was kind of smiling to myself thinking I'm a lucky shit right here.
I'm enjoying myself. I spent 24 hours a day in lockdown in a room smaller than something.
You didn't do as well. Something I didn't do with cockroaches.
And you're telling me you were in a house and was allowed to go to the market.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Seriously, I had my laptop with me.
So with the Taliban, I was watching Titanic and Rambo.
I was watching Rambo 3 in Afghanistan.
If someone were to say to me before this story, Andrew, would you rather go to Taliban jail or Romanian jail?
I would have chosen Romanian jail.
But I was 24 hours a day locked down in a room.
I did not get to leave. I did not go outside.
We had an infestation of cockroaches.
And I sat there killing bugs for 24 hours a day for 93 days.
I didn't see sunlight unless I was being marched to court in handcuffs.
And you're telling me you got to go to the market.
You got movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got movies. I had music.
Why have I been sold? I can't believe this.
I invited you on holiday and you said no.
These are the consequences of your actions.
You invited me, but you know what? If I would have gone, it's a good thing.
Allah's the best of planners. Because if I would have gone and whoever your little fucking friends are would have sold me out, they'd have a bigger hell to pay than any jail.
Of course. Because I'm top G. I'm not having that.
So they're lucky I didn't fucking go.
Whoever those little pussies are, say their names.
Oh, no, I won't. Trust me.
You're a nicer man than me, because I would have them done.
So it's a good thing I didn't go.
Because if those little pussies fucking rat...
I don't like rats. I don't like that.
So it's a good thing I didn't go.
But I can't believe...
I went through the jail experience, and in jail with my brother, him and I, one of the ways we were coping with the madness is we were discussing all the scenarios in which we would rather be in Romanian jail than somewhere else.
So we said, well, this is terrible.
The food is bad, it's freezing cold, and there's bed bugs, and we're getting bitten, and this is bad.
But at least we're not on a U-boat, which has just been hit with a depth charge.
Or at least we're not in a trench getting shelled in World War II. And I think maybe at some point we probably talked about, well, there's probably worse jails than this one.
This one's terrible, but there must be worse ones.
And now you're sitting here telling me that...
The Taliban jail was 1,000 times better than what I went through.
Absolutely. Like I said, it was a lovely heartache.
You know, I could have escaped, Andrew.
Because it was a normal guest house.
You could have escaped, but because of respect to them.
Yeah, exactly. And to be honest, I was like, I'm kind of enjoying this.
I'm kind of enjoying this. You know what's funny about jail?
Obviously, at some point, you always consider escape.
Yeah, always. Because you're sitting there like, could I get out of this?
Because you have all the time in the world and you're trapped.
And you ultimately come to the conclusion that nearly any jail, whether it's American, Romanian, Taliban, Turkish, your name of country, Japanese, anything, the way you can get out is to betray the trust of people who are nice to you.
That's the only way out.
The only way out is to have someone who's nice to you and you be a piece of shit and betray them.
And I respect what you say because I'm the same.
I was sitting there going, there's no way I could...
Not that I'd ever break out because I'm innocent.
But I was sitting there saying, the only way I could get out of here is to betray the people who are nice to me.
And as a person, I can't do that.
I'm not that guy. I'm not going to hit someone or do something bad to people who are nice to me.
And I have too kind of heart to do it.
Exactly. And plus, they would get in hot shit too, won't they?
Yeah, I have too kind of heart.
I'll just stay in jail.
I'd rather stay in jail than sideswipe the one person who's nice to me.
I can't do that. So I understand that.
So... Eight months in jail.
And during those eight months, you were just chilling, watching movies.
You had a bed. Oh, yeah. I had a house.
Oh, yeah. I got a nice bed as well.
Really cushy. You know, good stuff.
At one point, because I was arrested with a thousand dollars, anything you're arrested with, apart from a phone, let's say, you're allowed to have.
So, of course, they gave me that thousand dollars.
You got to keep your money. Oh, yeah.
I didn't keep my shoelaces.
Yes. I didn't get nothing.
Because three dudes killed themselves.
The first week I was in there, three dudes killed themselves.
And they ran in our cells and took everything.
Shoelaces. I had a little bottle of Tabasco to hide the taste of the food.
I wasn't allowed glass anymore.
No exercise band.
No sheets on my bed. A guy hung himself with sheets.
I had nothing. I feel shortchanged.
I am furious. I had everything.
I love flexing this.
It's a good story.
I had $1,000.
So at one point I renovated the room.
You know what? Because it was Afghan style.
And I wanted to stay in like, you know, a Western style hotel.
So new carpets, painted for walls, a nice color, new lighting too.
I had tons of movies.
I downloaded some music.
I had my Bible.
They were really fine with me doing anything.
No problem with the Bible? No, no problem.
They said, hey, you're our guest right here in our country.
Even if you've created a small issue for yourself, you're Christian.
This is no problem. You want to praise your God.
Absolutely. That's fine. We respect that because they respect the diversity of people if you come as a guest.
And now if you start preaching to them, obviously that might be a problem.
But look at those photos right there, Andrew.
Look, I was given a ring, a triple emerald ring by one of the commanders because he liked me so much.
He said, yeah, take some photos if you want.
They encouraged me to write my book.
They said, be brutally honest.
I did the whole bold look right there.
So I look like the American X guy, you know?
Yeah. Look, I had a hat.
Look, look at that window right there.
Wide open. I could jump into the streets.
I could run down. I knew exactly where I was.
I could be out in that country within two days.
But no, I was enjoying my holiday.
Who else is in this jail? So I can't say exactly the nationalities, but there was one guy.
I'll tell you about this guy. This guy's fucking hilarious.
I'm surprised they treated him so well.
So I won't say the nationality, but you can guess from the, uh, from the accent.
So when I was in the holding cell, this guy got brought in.
So he's, he's what, like six foot four black dude.
And he goes, fuck man, what am I doing here?
Fuck. You know, he starts freaking out.
Where's he from? I can't say.
Can't say, but he's Western.
Yeah, yeah. You can imagine.
You can imagine. What's the most entitled country in the world in the West?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So I go, oh, hey, mate, what are you doing?
You know, what are you in for?
He goes, oh, what are you doing?
Fuck why, people. I'm a fucking terrorist.
I'm joining ISIS. I'm joining Daesh.
So I'm like, what the fuck?
This guy starts shouting at people.
The Taliban come in. Like, hey, man, calm down.
And he goes, no, I'm Muslim too.
He's like, yeah, that's great, man. But he can't shout at the other detainees.
He assaults the Taliban.
And they, you know, strain him and take him to the guest house as well, put him in like a little isolated cell.
This guy's a full-on schizophrenic.
And I speak to him a few times throughout my stay.
He's fucking insane, but it's kind of funny.
He believes he's had a chip implanted in his, at the end of his knob, in the end of his dick, and in his brain by Joe Biden.
I hate when that happens. Yeah, yeah, it happens to the best of us, man.
I removed mine last week, you know.
Yeah, yeah. So he believes Joe Biden is speaking to him through satellites.
Isn't there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he also believes he is a big leader of ISIS. He also believes he's founded, what was it, Al-Qaeda, and he also founded, what was it, Al-Shabaab, the Somalian terrorist.
So he believes he's part of this big network.
I find his Facebook at one point when I get out, by the way.
Complete crap show. I think he's either the worst US asset in the world, or he's just completely insane.
Oh, that's me. Yeah, I was...
Wait, wait, let me show this to the people.
I didn't have a gym.
I wasn't allowed dumbbells because I might kill myself, but obviously here you got to work out.
Yeah, man, I got to work out no problem.
I had to do a thousand push-ups a day.
I wasn't allowed weights. See, they don't let you look after your health in Romanian prison.
No? I'm still in the Romanian judicial system, so I'd be very careful what I say.
But I was not allowed to wait since we've had that in the gym.
There was no exercise. Yeah, I don't like to see that.
You know, I think I was in the best health in Taliban prison because there was no processed sugar that I bought.
The food was solid.
The food was really good. If anyone has ever been to Central Asia or the Middle East, you can attest to the food being amazing.
I kind of miss it.
There's a schizophrenic.
Is there anyone else in there who's like you been caught up and had some pussy ass friends who sold them out?
Yeah, there was one guy as well.
He was from a neighboring country in Afghanistan.
He was actually a spy.
So I met quite a few genuine spies there.
It wasn't the GDI being paranoid.
They had good reason to suspect spies were in the country.
Sometimes I'll be walking around the house and a new guy would arrive and he would walk up to me and go, Hey, I'm CIA. I'm like, what the fuck?
And he would go, yeah, yeah, so you're British, right?
So you're with your guys. Hey, what's the plan?
Have you heard anything from the outside?
I'm like, hey, I'm not in your fucking world, man.
All right, but yeah, heard from the outside is a good question, though.
How did you contact? Did anyone know you were safe?
How did you contact anyone? Did you speak to anyone?
Were you allowed a phone call? How did it work?
I had monthly phone calls. I could call my MC anytime I wanted.
Like, it was in Doha, so I could call them.
I was allowed supervised calls to my people, so I could call my friends.
How often could you call your friends?
As much as I wanted, really.
As long as there was a good reason for it.
As long as it wasn't just empty chit-chat, you know, sort out my affairs.
Usually I would do it once every two weeks.
But if I wanted to push it, I could do it once every few days.
It was good, man. It was a real good time.
And to conclude this story, and I'm going to go on to some general questions about Afghanistan.
Yes, mate. So, how do you go home?
What happens? The police...
Did you know in advance you were going to go home?
Did it come out of nowhere? It came out of nowhere.
Bro, me, it came out of nowhere. It was 10.30 at night.
And I was sitting there staring at the wall.
I'd been to court, I think the day before or the day.
And every time I've been to court, I've been absolutely wrecked and decimated.
And I was just sitting there staring at the wall.
And I still had hope because I'm a fool.
So every time I got declined, it would be a huge mental destruction.
Whereas my brother, he had no hope from the beginning.
The second we went to jail, day one, he said, this, Andrew, I love you.
I said, I love you too. He goes, this is a Matrix attack.
I was like, yeah. He goes, you know how the Matrix works, don't you?
I was like, yeah. He goes, we ain't getting out.
So I was like, okay.
And even after court, when we were waiting for our decision to go home, my brother had so little faith and so little nerves, he'd just go straight to sleep.
Didn't even care to take a nap.
We'd finish in court and he'd go, and we'd be waiting for the answer because the answer came on a piece of paper through the door.
They'd just slide it through saying yes or no.
And I'd be sitting there staring at the door and Tristan would be like, Andrew.
It's a matrix attack. What are you waiting by the door for?
And just take a nap and just sleep.
So every time he'd sleep, because for court you had to be up early so you were tired, and like this time he was asleep, and we got the piece of paper saying yes, and I'm like, Tristan!
We're going home! We're going home!
And he goes, he wakes up, kind of goes, what?
No, he wasn't even happy.
He just goes, what?
Today? I was like, yeah, I think we get to go today!
He's like, oh, alright, alright, I'll pack then.
My brother's tapped. So, my brother didn't care.
But I was a stag.
I used all my last mouthwash.
My mouthwash was rationed.
And I was so bored in jail that mouthwash was like an experience.
It was like something to do.
A sensation. For the senses, yeah.
I'd allow myself one mouthwash a day for like an hour.
I'd play with this mouthwash. And I had like half a bottle left.
I was like, can you use the mouthwash?
I used all the mouthwash.
It's just small things, you know?
Oh, it was incredible. But yeah, my brother didn't care.
So for you, it was the same. It came out of absolute number?
They gave me an hour. They said, Miles, you're going somewhere an hour.
Did they tell you why they decided to let you go?
Like, what did they say? After a while, they said, hey, Miles, we gave you the minimum sentence of six months because we think you're a top guy.
We actually like you. I was like, oh, the Taliban like me.
Lovely stuff. And he said, oh, yes, very sorry.
Paperwork and bureaucracy, because there's no embassy here for British.
It took a little bit longer. And because we wanted you to be released with the other British people who were actually convicted, being spies, by the way, they came with me.
So they said, okay, Miles, it's been eight months.
Very sorry about this, but you're going home now.
And I just said, you know what?
To the Taliban, guys, here's some money.
Go and buy some pizzas.
Go and buy some food.
We're going to have a feast right now.
We're going to have a party. We're going to have a good time.
We're going to watch a movie. I think we watched Black Hawk Down, which was one of the Taliban favourites.
Had a Pashto version, by the way.
It was good stuff. We had like a little celebration.
Everyone was cheering. I think I was supplying everyone's nicotine addiction.
So was I. Bro in jail, so was I. I use all my commissary on cigarettes, and they would trade cigarettes for home-cooked food.
Exactly. That was a currency, wasn't it?
The cigarettes. Yeah, exactly. I use all my money on cigarettes.
So I basically, I gave the rest of my money to some guys I liked.
I said, you know, I'll spend it wisely.
I might be back in a little bit.
This might not be the end. I might not be released, but we'll see.
We'll see. And I went to the Taliban at this point, and one of my friends, one of the commanders, I can't say his name, but he said, Lovely bloke.
And I know he's watching this, so thank you, Commander.
And he sat down.
We had a feast as well. All my favourite foods, which he remembered from our first conversation.
Some of the stuff I hadn't mentioned at this point.
He said, you know what, Miles?
I'm very sorry about this situation, but you're going home now.
I pray that you come back.
You know, inshallah. Here's some food.
Enjoy yourself. Have a good nap.
You're going early in the morning.
How's it been? You know, any feedback?
You know, we always look to improve the situation.
We want to create diplomatic ties over the country.
And I say, I'm coming back in three weeks, mate.
Lovely holiday. And I'm so optimistic about it.
I think he thinks I'm lying.
He's like, nah, this guy isn't coming back.
And I just grab him by the shoulder.
I'm like, I am coming back, my friend.
I am coming back. I'm doing big business in your country.
You're going to help me. We're going to have a good situation.
We're going to have a good time. And they drove you to the airport?
Yeah, they drove me to the airport. Armored convoy, by the way.
Blues in two. Yeah, exactly.
So I'm like, this is lovely.
And you know what the Taliban do?
They have very strong laser pointers.
So they're just shooting the laser pointers at other cars just to get them the other way.
It's kind of fun because they're trying to hit the driver.
So it's like a game to them. Small things like that.
I just love the Taliban.
They're just lads. They're just lads, you know?
They're just lads. Yeah, I get that.
I get that. Just boys goofing off.
Boys goofing off. Boys goofing off.
And it's kind of funny, at the fall of Kabul, I remember seeing loads of memes on Twitter when it showed, like, all the Taliban, like, charging at the previously held American fortifications.
Imagine you and your boys just picking up AKs and just...
They're goofing off. Yeah, exactly.
Charging in. Yeah, like a Friday night.
Friday night, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. So, um...
It was a commercial flight or was it a military flight?
How did you leave? It was a commercial flight.
To where? To Dubai again.
So it was the second time I got deported to Dubai, technically.
And the other times I've been to Dubai, I had food poisoning.
So the Dubai staff know me at this point.
They know me by name. And then I had the British Foreign Office.
God bless them. They met me there.
They said, you know, I hope you're well, Miles.
Are you okay? I go, yeah, lovely holiday, lads.
Lovely to get away from it all.
I'll be back in Kabul in three weeks.
They had this horrified face.
Like, he's not going to... It's not going to stop.
You know, they're sick of me.
Are you actually going back to Kabul?
Oh, yeah, yeah. Three weeks. I promised the commander first month and I keep my promises.
I'm going back. I'm going to do some business.
Oh, he invited me to Tora Bora.
Do you know Tora Bora? No.
Yeah, so do you know where Bin Laden stayed in those caves before he went to Pakistan?
I know the caves, yeah. Yeah, that's Tora Bora.
So the Taliban said, hey, Miles, we like YouTube videos.
Do you want to make one?
All right, all right. So I've got a bunch of questions.
So I don't want to be egotistical, but let me start with this one.
Did the Taliban know who I am?
Yeah, yeah. They know who you are.
They know who you are. Do you remember that book you signed for me?
One of my books? Yeah, the Top G here.
He kindly signed it for me.
I brought it with me to Afghanistan.
They opened it up whilst interviewing me.
And he said, who is this?
I say, oh, that's Andrew Tate.
They say, the Top G? And I go, yeah, the Top G. You know the Top G? And they were like, Yes, my friend.
You got this book signed by?
I'm like, mate, he's my acquaintance.
I met him a few times. Lovely chap.
You know the top G? And I was like, absolutely, man.
Check my WhatsApp right here. He's right here.
And they were like, whoa, can you tell him I said hi?
So Iqbal says hi, mate.
Iqbal says hi. Hey, G. So if I come to Afghanistan...
I'll be fine. I think you'll be fine, man.
You haven't got bad intentions?
None. Why would I have bad intentions?
Exactly. He's a pure guy. If you come to Afghanistan, they will treat you like a prince.
I guarantee it. Way better than Romania.
I know you can't say anything about that, but I can.
Fuck Romania. Fuck the government.
The Taliban government will absolutely look after you.
I think at one point, if you want to buy a house there, you have no problems.
I think the tax rate's a lot more favorable.
The tax rate's probably pretty low.
Yeah, it's pretty decent, man. So I'm safe to go to Afghanistan.
If I want to do a visit in the future, I can come see you, stay at your house?
Yeah, absolutely, man. They go look after you.
They'll treat you like guests. They'll treat you out for a lovely meal.
Take some photos. They'll give you a tour.
They always encourage tourism and business in Afghanistan.
The only issue is the Western media.
The whole matrix is attacking the system.
The matrix attacks them. I understand that. I've been through that.
I understand, Taliban. The matrix attacks and they lie.
They lie about me in the paper all day long.
You look at the news and it says, oh, Afghanistan's the hardest place to do business.
I went there. It was incredibly simple.
The permits, I went there.
I spoke to some people and they said, yeah, here you go, man.
Same day stuff. It was very, very straightforward.
Okay. So now that you've faced these life and death situations, how do you view the everyday challenges that most people in the West complain about?
Like, what do you think the average...
Oh, they're bitches. Absolutely.
What do you think the average person, the average Westerner...
I mean, you saw all your friends roll on you, which just genuinely upset me.
But how do you think the average Westerner would handle your situation, the average person?
Oh, they would be crying and shaking.
You know, they would be telling the Afghans, oh, I don't belong here, F off.
You know, they would be disrespectful.
They wouldn't understand how to play the situation into their favor.
With me, I thought, this is great.
I get to make some friends. I get to network.
I'm still set on the business, so this is like...
Great time. I think most of them, which my friends, when they were staying with me, they were crying on my shoulder.
And I was like, there, there, mate.
Don't worry about your girlfriend. You must have been concerned at some point.
No. Didn't cross your mind.
No, absolutely not.
No, I was like, they're my friends.
No problem. I was like, I'm going to have a good time here.
What was the most surprising thing you learned about yourself during the ordeal?
Oh, I'm too addicted to the internet, man.
I remember when I had my phone and my laptop taken away from me.
So the first three weeks, I didn't have my laptop or any electronics.
So every few seconds, I would reach and I'd go, where's my phone?
I did that. I did that for weeks.
For weeks, I was like, I don't have a phone.
Yeah, I just didn't know what to do.
And time went so slowly like that, didn't it?
But you got your phone back after three weeks?
No, no. So it was my laptop. So I phoned an issue.
You got a laptop? Yeah, yeah. My laptop.
Yeah. So I made a deal with him.
I said, hey, I'll tell you where my laptop is in Kabul.
It's with my friend. But if you find nothing on my laptop, can I have my laptop?
And he said, hey, we don't need to make this deal.
Honestly, you allowed your stuff.
As long as it's not a phone, you can use your stuff for entertainment.
If you have your money, you can have it.
If you have books, you can have it.
If you want some comforts, no problem, within reason.
We'll look after you. We've looked after all the other people, and I saw it.
They did some good work. I had my laptop, and I thought, this is amazing.
And he said, you know what, Miles? We won't tell you what to write.
We're not going to ever check your laptop, which you didn't, by the way, which is great.
But just write your second book, watch some movies.
Here's a copy of the Krunt if you want.
But we understand you're a firm Catholic.
That's no problem with us.
But, you know, we always encourage people to look at our religion.
Just honestly, if you need something for it, we can get it for you from the markets.
I go, well, thank you very much, which is a test called manana.
It means thank you very much in Pashto.
And one word I would always say was, which means no problem.
When the house commander would come and check everyone else out and check their needs, if they need, hey, do you need more toothpaste?
Do you need new soap? People would always bitch and moan to this guy.
They would grab him and go, oh, I really need this.
I really need to go. I'm innocent, man.
But clearly I knew they weren't.
They were lying through their teeth.
The house commander would come to me and go, what do you need, man?
I go, No, nothing.
Mushkinishtha. You know, come back next week, man.
I'm good. And he would always laugh because I was the only one saying, hey, I'm having a good situation.
And everyone else had the same conditions as me, too.
Do you think your mental resilience comes from a place...
And please don't be insulted.
I'm asking for the sake of the audience.
Do you think your mental resilience comes from a place of...
Constructive... Do you think you've built a certain mindset?
Do you think it's a realistic mindset you have?
Or do you think you're just blessed from God?
I'm delusional. I'm delusional optimistic and narcissistic to that point.
Absolutely. You must be delusionally optimistic.
Obviously, but here's the thing too.
You know this too. Sometimes if you play a part and really push it and just act with sheer confidence, it works out in the end.
That is true, but that's an extreme situation to play that part.
I don't think it was extreme for me.
Popping down to Afghanistan is like popping down to Tesco's or Walmart's.
For me, it's nothing.
It's nothing. Everyone, when they hear the word Afghanistan, they hear that scary music and they go, oh, I'll shiver my timbers, Afghanistan.
That's like, you step off the flight, your head explodes.
I'm trying to learn. It's fine.
Because there's very few people who have a story which, like I said, can impress me.
And that's one of the things I actually, and I think I made a video about this a few years ago.
It's kind of interesting with a life like mine.
I don't want to come across narcissistic or arrogant, but I've come from the absolute bottom echelon of society.
Now I'm at the highest echelon of society.
Because you earned it. Because I earned it.
The highest echelon of masculine performance.
And I have hundreds of millions of dollars and I'm famous and blah, blah, blah.
And I was a professional fighter and I made out the ghetto.
I did all these things and everyone recognizes me now, et cetera, et cetera.
So when I meet normal people, I have to kind of dumb my stories down.
Last time this happened, I think it was Christmas, a few years ago, a guy who I went to school with, who I hadn't seen in maybe 16 years.
16 years. A long time.
And he's like, oh, Tate, you're in England. Let's meet up.
I was like, yeah, cool. We met up. And he's sitting there and he's telling me about his life.
And I want to be very polite to the man.
I don't want to insult the man. Yeah.
I know him, right? But I'm sitting there going, so what have you been up to?
He's like, oh, yeah, I got this job and I work in the city.
And he's telling me the crazy time he went to Spain once and this crazy party and they spent $2,000.
$2,000. Wow. And I'm just sitting there like, yeah, bro.
Cool. And I can't tell anything about my life.
Like, he's bragging about how he might be able to afford a BMW on finals next year.
I can't sit there and say, I haven't got you a week, G. I can't.
I don't insult him. So I have to very much say almost nothing.
But you have stories which rival mine, perhaps surpass.
So I'm trying to learn. So what mindset tips?
Like, there must have been something. I learned a bunch in jail.
Yes. Your jail sounds in a way easier than mine, but surely, surely there must have been the consequence.
I know the Romanians probably won't chop my head off.
Of course. So you must have had some concerns at some point.
There must be some mindset tips, or is it just pure delusional optimism?
Delusional optimism, 100%.
I'm just my brain, somewhere else, man.
You know what happens? Well, when they came in and interviewed me every single time, when they came in, I said, oh, welcome to my office, please take a seat.
They would chuckle with us because it's just this grand confidence.
And in the end, from that, they learned, hey, you do business?
I go, yeah, yeah. And I started pitching to the Taliban my business as I'm being interviewed.
You see what I mean? And they like it and they pass it on.
They go, you know, this guy's onto something.
He can make something out of this situation in our country.
He seems alright. I mean, it got to the point where this guy's making a lot of sense.
We want to invite him back.
So I could have been in a situation where I just sit in the corner, chattering at my nails, crying a little bit, shouting at them, disrespecting them like a lot of people did.
Which, yeah, it's stupid.
You need to keep a level head with these things.
I agree with that. And you need to be optimistic.
I agree with that also. But as a hyper-professional, you need to consider all scenarios and you need to have a plan for all scenarios.
You need to try and Plot the future.
And you must have considered, I'm never going to make it out of here.
They might kill me. Truly none of that crossed your mind.
No, no. I have friends in England where if something goes wrong, something will be sorted out for me.
I have a lot of strong contacts.
The whole thing is with my travels, it's a very goofy front, but you must understand, I briefly worked in investment banking, which is a very hard field to get into.
You have to be somewhat competent.
I agree, but I don't think investment bankers can save you from the Taliban.
Of course not, no, but I had things in place.
I am very, very, very, very, how do you put it?
I would say I always want to plan.
I have five different plans if something goes wrong.
Contingencies. Yeah, I had five different contingency plans.
So when I didn't stop an email sending out for a few days, my contingency plan, the PDF, got sent automatically to a few friends saying, this is how you sort out my affairs, this is how you log into my social media, this is what you say, this type of stuff.
You do know I was trying to get you out, don't you?
Oh, you were? Oh, you're my top chief man.
Thank you. And I'll show you.
I was messaging every large Twitter account that was associated with the Afghanistani government saying, what's happened to this guy?
I know him personally.
I can vouch for him personally.
What will it cost to get him out?
You do know I was trying to get you free, right?
Oh, thank you, man. But to be honest, I kind of am glad I stayed that long because I think it was a perfect amount of time.
I really got a good story out of it.
Otherwise, the book would just be a bit boring, if that makes sense.
The story would just be like, oh, I went in, took an L, got nothing out of it, and then lost some time.
No, the story was, now, I went in...
I made a bad situation great, and I came out with a viable business, an amazing story, and a lot of friends.
Because I like to extrapolate lessons from everything, because that's how I work.
Let's extrapolate a lesson from this.
And the lesson we're going to extrapolate is the fact that these people who you were supposed to do business with and make money with went there, sold you out, and put you in an unfavorable position.
And me, someone who you had met for one hour once in your life ever, was trying to save you.
Which shows you need to know important people, and you need to have high-value people around you, which makes it extremely important.
I say to people all the time, I know guys and they say, oh, he's my friend.
And I say, well, he's a loser. Oh, but he's funny.
But he's useless. Why are you talking to this person?
The best, at his most competent, he can hurt you.
He can't help you ever.
Why are you talking to him?
None of my friends are useless. None.
And I was sitting there actively trying to get you out.
And your friends who sold you out were just what?
Living in England, not giving a shit?
Oh no, yeah, they were having some calls with me occasionally, but he won't do anything.
And here's the thing too, they had a lot of opportunities, but they did nothing.
Sounds like white boy shit. Yeah, white boy stuff.
They had no balls, if that makes sense.
We don't work that way.
Unbelievable. So I've got a few more questions for you I have to ask.
ask who's tweeting on your account?
It was a friend of mine.
I can't say who, but a very close friend.
And what about your views on family and God and tradition?
Like surely they were, were they, did they have any strong traditions or is there anything about them you, you witnessed that you admired or did anything evolve with your time there?
Did you see how their society functions?
Because I know absolutely nothing until my visits.
I'm going to come see the Taliban one day, but I'm assuming.
And of course, like I said, I'm a professional and as a professional, I just know life generally, I don't have any studies to back this up, but I'm assuming with a less powerful government, although people are afraid of it, of course, people respect it as you've just described, I guess.
Family is a huge part of remain retaining social cohesion, right?
Yes, they've got a lot of autonomy in their area and the social unit is very important to them, Andrew.
The thing is they have very big families that carry on for generations and they always live underneath one roof, looking after one another, having each other's back and there's that strong societal trust that you just don't get in the West, which I really do respect.
And that's why we found common ground too.
They asked me, why was it in Inglestand?
Why do we not have a- In Inglestand?
In Inglestand. In Inglestand. In Inglestand. In Inglestand. In Inglestand. That's why we call it in Pashto.
In Inglestand, I believe. They would say, you know, why do you have one child, two child?
This is crazy for us.
You know, most people have seven children.
I was like, I agree with that.
Yeah, I was like, I want seven or eight children and I want them to explore the stars in the future generations.
Yeah, having one or two kids is a disgrace to your brother.
Of course, yeah. You've got to at least have seven kids.
So I agree with him on that. Me and the Taller Bros have a lot in common.
Exactly. I would love to see a podcast between you two.
I would absolutely love that. Oh yeah.
So you don't have a single experience or a single day where you were afraid?
No, sometimes I was a little sad, to be honest.
Yeah, you know what?
It was a punishment. I did make a small mistake and I apologize to that.
I felt sad, but they always picked me up.
They said, Miles, you okay, man?
I was like, no, no, Miles.
Do you want a movie? Do you want some ice cream?
You'll be good, man. And the same with the other people too.
The only problem is they really abused this.
They were like, yeah, give me 10 cigars.
Give me ice cream.
Give me a pizza.
And the guys were like, yeah, you're sad every day now.
And what do the Taliban think of the West?
What do they think of us?
Do they comment on us and our society or something?
What do they think of us? They like the everyday person, but not the soldiers, not the government.
You know what I mean? They don't hate the American people.
They just hate the American government.
They don't like Joe Biden. They like Trump a little bit too.
They like Trump? A little bit, yeah, because he ended the war in Afghanistan and spoke out about it too.
They have mixed feelings about him.
There's always some different things.
They're trying to figure out the geopolitical situation themselves.
They're trying to build relations right now because before they've just kept themselves isolated.
So they have no real problem with the general...
No, you're allowed to come to Afghanistan as a guest as long as you do nothing dodgy.
They'll have no problems with you.
They treat you as a guest. Tourism is fully enforced.
If you want to create business there, they're more than happy for it as long as it's done properly.
Okay, so they have no negative views of the West.
Did they say anything about our politics or about the gender crap or any of that garbage?
Yeah, they're like, why do women dress like whores, man?
I was like, yeah, I kind of relate.
I was like, one struggle, brother.
I'm Catholic. I don't like this whole thing where people wear green.
I can't sit here and agree with the Taliban on that.
Yeah, you absolutely can, but The Matrix, they just want you to say, oh no, they're mistreating everyone.
No, they're not. Things are pretty well there.
If you speak to the average Afghan, they say things are good.
You can't find one article out there where one Afghan says a good thing because, of course, the Western media do not I've spoken to Afghans who are living in London, so they have no pressures to say good things.
They pulled me aside and said, you know what, Miles?
We're kind of like the Taliban.
It's a lot safer. And I go, I kind of can relate.
You know what? They're still figuring things out.
Of course, they're not up to our Western ideological standards.
But 20 years ago, they were smashing TVs, you know, saying TVs are evil, but now they're all on TikTok.
So they're currently coming...
Is that how they know me, TikTok? I think so.
Yeah. Yeah. I think they come across you a few times.
They've seen our videos too, that we did together.
Yeah. You know what? Obviously they're not up to our Western standards and they're never going to be because it's a whole different ideology, but they're going more and more towards us.
They're relating. There's more common ground.
You know what I think? I think we give them some support.
I think we give them some direction.
We help them out with their economy like we should have done.
And they could become a really great country.
Do you believe the Taliban are now currently in talks with, let's say, the British and American government in a civil, open discourse?
No, no. It's very limited.
Very, very limited. I do know there was meant to be a meeting between MI6 and the Afghanistan government.
Yeah, yes. But Pakistan ISI, that's the Pakistani intelligence, called the British up and said, hey, bad security situation, which is mostly a lie.
The Taliban have the security up.
100%. If you go to Afghanistan, you feel very safe because there's soldiers everywhere patrolling the place, keeping, you know, the everyday citizens safe.
And then the meeting got cancelled.
So the Afghans are trying to reach out, create diplomatic relations.
But, you know, there's other forces kind of trying to push against them and they're trying to push forward.
You know how it is with a new country.
They have to make a name for themselves.
They have to be useful.
Last few questions for you.
Did you see homeless people, hungry people?
Were people struggling there? People must be struggling.
I have to admit, people are struggling.
The situation is not good, but you know what I see the Taliban doing?
Every single day, the Taliban go out with any extra food they have and they give it to people.
If you see someone hungry, there will always be someone that comes around a few minutes later and gives them food and gives them shelter and gives them something.
And that's a perfect way for me to go into what I do with Tate Pledge because we try our best to feed people and I think that's one of the most basic Things you can do.
It's very tangible. When you give somebody who is hungry a meal, it's very tangible and easy to feel.
A lot of these NGOs and charities, they want to turn up and put up banners and talk garbage.
But that doesn't help anybody. When someone is hungry, they need food.
So I'm going to quickly show a tape pledge video, then we're going to have a little Q&A. And, uh, bro, I'm glad you're out.
Let's put it that way. And I'm a little bit jealous of your jail.
I genuinely believe there's no better karmic bonus to life than feeding starving kids.
Kids who can't eat, get a meal with your neighbor.
It's such an honor to be able to be of service to them.
The Prophet Muhammad taught that the most beloved deed to Allah is to fill the stomach of the hungry, to help those that are facing times of difficulty.
And we're here in a very remote village that is very impoverished and filled with orphans and needy women.
Alhamdulillah, providing maybe one of the only hot meals they get throughout the year.
And this was made possible thanks to the generous donation of Andrew and Tristan Tate with the War Room.
So may Allah reward you guys and bless you guys for your generous support today.
It's such an honor to be able to bring smiles to all these beautiful faces.
Jazakumullahu khairan.
Wa-alaikumussalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.
So we have a whole bunch of other stuff we could show.
We have pictures, we have videos, we have incredible stuff.
But you know what? Here's your Twitter account.
I'm going to show everyone. And if they can't read it there, what is it?
It is... It's at Real Lord Miles.
If you just search Lord Miles, I will definitely be at the top.
I recommend everybody follow this guy on Twitter because it sounds like you have some stories and you're going to be going back there.
And you've also shown me some other stuff you've done, which you keep telling me is fine to show, but I refuse to show because I'm telling you the Matrix is going to wreck you, my friend.
So we're not going to show it. It's up to you if you want to say it on Twitter.
But you're an extremely brave man.
And I have to commend your mental state.
Perhaps you call it delusional optimism, but it worked.
And I believe in the ends justify the means.
And if it paid off, then all's well that ends well.
I'm very glad you're here.
And what do you have coming up next?
What are your future adventures for everyone to follow you on Twitter?
Everywhere. Everywhere. If you think of a dangerous place in the world, I want to go there.
North Central Island, that's my endgame.
It's the most dangerous island of the world, with the second dangerous being England, of course.
But North Central Island, completely inhabited by natives that are hostile to the outside world.
No one has ever- They're actually going to go there?
Yeah, yeah, 100%. I've been researching this for two years.
Some people went there in the 80s, they got killed.
Yeah, yeah, but they're not me.
They're not me, man. You're just going to smile your way through it.
No, no, I have a grand plan, but I can't reveal it.
I can't reveal it. Darien Gap 2, so that's 50 miles of narco kind of territory between Colombia and Panama, one of the most dangerous jungles of the world.
20% of people who enter do not come out alive.
There's literally skulls on spikes around there.
I went to Snake Island 2, actually the second most dangerous island of the world.
Per West... Per one square foot, there's one snake.
If you get bitten by it, your organs liquefy.
Your heart stops. Yeah, I went there.
First ever tourist to survive.
I wore a suit of medieval armor, so snakes can't buy through armor.
So I walked around like a little can, you know, just snakes can't get through this.
I've been to the front lines of Ukraine a few times.
I got bored around Christmas time, so I popped down there.
Every single war zone in the last two years, I have been to.
Also, when Iran had issues with Afghanistan, I heard about the news through my Tali bros, my good friends, and I begged the Taliban commander.
I said, please, man, let me go there under a supervised visit.
I will film for you, but of course, I was in custody.
He said no, respectfully.
Okay. I don't want to be morbid, but if something does happen to you, is there anything you want me to do?
You know what? Have a drink on me, man.
Are you sure nothing's going to happen to you?
No, I'm not sure. But that's the adventure of it, isn't it?
I mean, if I was sure nothing was going to happen, it's going to be very boring, you know?
But it's within my risk tolerance.
And it's paid off. I've got every single news article out there laughing at me saying, oh, you know, he's stupid.
He's got himself in custody. No, no, I'm getting paid more than free investment bankers combined.
I have my own business.
I have tons of friends. I'm meeting Lovely lads like yourself right here and other people.
Every single week, I'm enjoying this life.
I will do this until I die.
And to be honest, because God has a great sense of humour, I think I'm going to one day die at the age of 110 by slipping on a banana peel.
I just see it happening, you know?
Well, it's certainly the British spirit because the British conquered the entire world by doing extremely dangerous things and going to very dangerous places.
That's what made Britain the empire it was.
You are certainly perhaps a throwback to the age-old British Mentality of, who cares?
It might be dangerous. It'll be fine, old chap.
Bring the tobacco and let's go.
Absolutely. I'm one of those pit pats.
Yeah, you're as English as it gets.
Yeah, nowadays. And I respect bravery in a man, so I have to give you respect.
Oh, thank you, man. I respect you because some of these adventures, I mean, the Taliban maybe, the snakes...
Bro, I don't see any fun about hanging on snakes.
Yeah, you can't talk your way out of snakes.
Not easily. To be honest, what happened was as well, just a quick story here.
I got radio from my friend who's waiting on the boat because it's, you know, far off land.
Turns out the Brazilian Navy, the Coast Guard, noticed the boat and they set a course for our direction.
And of course, in about 20 minutes, they would be here.
I would get what? 10 years in prison, 80k fined in a Brazilian jail.
Hell no. And of course, because I was wearing, what, 45 kilograms of clunky armor of a large...
Do you have pictures of this? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tweet one. I will do.
Everyone, tune into his Twitter.
We have to see this. Good stuff, man.
Lord Miles on Twitter.
I stripped the armor at the peak of the island and I ran down because it's the only way I can get back down in time.
And I just didn't get bit...
I basically YOLO'd my life, and somehow, through delusional optimism, I refused to die despite my best efforts.
You sound a lot like me.
I say the same things.
No, you don't sound retarded, mate.
I have to give you credit, honestly.
Thank you for coming on the show, friends. Thank you for having me, man.
And also, final thing too, I've got an auction on my Twitter right here for these authentic Talibro shoes.
These are made by the Taliban.
They make the shoes? Oh yeah, they make the shoes.
They wear them. If you go to Afghanistan, they wear the high tops here.
I had these for eight months in Taliban custody.
And I got them signed by some GDI staff.
Look at this stuff here. Lovely.
And I don't see anyone else having signature shoes.
These are a piece of history and I'm auctioning it off on my Twitter.
So if you want to bid on them, have a little piece of my life.
Have fun bidding. Yeah, and heaven forbid, heaven forbid, I'll pray for you every day, but if anything does happen to you, that's going to be worth a lot of money.
You know, when I was in Taliban prison, you were still in prison for a short period of time.
I was praying for you, man. Because I wasn't worried about myself.
I was worried about you. Bro, it's crazy.
That's pretty funny. And then I got out and I'm trying to break you out.
Bro, crazy. When I escape this matrix attack, we're going to deal with your little friends.