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E522 Tommy Lee

Tommy Lee is a musician who co-founded and plays drums for the heavy metal band Mötley Crüe. Tommy Lee joins Theo to chat about how he survived the insane heyday of Mötley Crüe, what “The Dirt” got right (and what they cut out), and the joys of Bonsai. Tommy Lee: https://www.instagram.com/tommylee ------------------------------------------------ Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com ------------------------------------------------- Sponsored By: BlueChew: Go to http://bluechew.com and use code THEO at checkout to receive your first month free - just pay $5 shipping! Rocket Money: Go to http://rocketmoney.com/theo to cancel your unwanted subscriptions with Rocket Money. Shopify: Go to http://shopify.com/theo to sign up for a $1-per-month free trial. 50 Fires: Go to link.pscrb.fm/theovon-2307812 to listen to the 50 Fires Podcast. ------------------------------------------------- Music: “Shine” by Bishop Gunn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3A_coTcUek ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: tpwproducer@gmail.com Hit the Hotline: 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: https://www.theovon.com/fan-upload Send mail to: This Past Weekend 1906 Glen Echo Rd PO Box #159359 Nashville, TN 37215 ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Shorts Channel: https://bit.ly/3ClUj8z ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers Producer: Nick https://www.instagram.com/realnickdavis/ Producer: Colin https://instagram.com/colin_reiner Producer: Cam https://www.instagram.com/cam__george/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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	Today's guest is a drummer for one of America's greatest rock and roll bands ever called Motley Crew.
	You know it.
	And he also loves Japanese shrubbery.
	We're going to learn some things about this little cat.
	He spent years behind the drum kit and he still gets it done.
	You know him and I'm happy to get to.
	Today's guest is Mr. Tommy Lee.
	Shine that light on me I'll sit and tell you my stories Shine on me And I will find a song I've been singing A monster And I'll find a song I haven't, I fucking, dude, I got an ear.
	Like, one of my ears, I can't hear.
	I think there's something, like, I don't know what happened to it.
	It's just been getting, I'm at the age kind of, I feel like, where if something starts like breaking, you're like, am I going to go get it fixed or am I just going to, dude?
	You know what I'm talking about?
	Yeah, I get it.
	I get it.
	I'm like, my, well, I have a reason for my shit breaking down slowly.
	But I'm like, you know, fuck it.
	Do I fix it or do I just leave it?
	Yeah.
	I just say what a lot.
	Yeah.
	It kind of fits in with your vibe too.
	You're like, I can't.
	Yeah.
	Should Tommy be able to hear at this point?
	Probably not.
	Does he still deserve all of his senses?
	That's what a lot of people would say, probably.
	Dude, that's hilarious.
	But yeah, my shit's just like, I don't know what's going on.
	But then I'm like, yeah, do I go get this shit fixed?
	Or am I just like, this is the part of my life where one of my ears is gone, you know, or one of my, I just can't hear anymore, you know, out of one ear.
	What happened?
	Did you?
	I don't know.
	Did something blow up or just like lots of loud music?
	No, I think just, I don't know.
	Could have just been listening to some chick's bullshit.
	I don't even know what happened to me.
	You know, or just, yeah.
	I don't know.
	It just me.
	And I just haven't had time.
	It's all good, man.
	It just is what it is, dude.
	But yeah, I think it's been, it made some of my dreams kind of weird.
	I keep having this.
	Do you ever have any like recurring dreams?
	No, it's the fucking weirdest thing.
	I don't really dream a lot.
	Yeah.
	My wife dreams all the time.
	Every more, every morning she's like, oh my God, I had the craziest dream.
	And she's like, you don't dream.
	I'm like, I you lived one.
	I just living it.
	Maybe if you get to live a dream, it's like God's like, hey, we're not doing, you can't play both sides of the net, you know?
	That's awesome.
	It could be.
	It could be.
	Because dreams, yeah, I think you're, yeah, I don't know.
	That's kind of interesting.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, dude, you got to live such a dream, man.
	Do you ever like, do you ever look at your life and you think like, did I do it well enough?
	Did I service the opportunity enough?
	Like, is there ever like some thoughts like that kind of?
	Well, you're getting all heavy.
	Is that weird?
	I don't know.
	I think mostly I walk around with a shitload of gratitude.
	I'm constantly pinching myself like, fuck.
	I still get to do this.
	I still get to rock the fuck out.
	Go do this.
	Go do that.
	Like, I get to live, man.
	So I've just been really grateful lately because I could not be here.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	Oh, and yeah, you guys definitely.
	Yeah.
	And fuck, I want a spaceship, man.
	I want to hang around long enough because I'm still pissed, dude.
	The year 2000, we were supposed to have fucking...
	Yeah.
	Where is my...
	Where's my fucking, my machine?
	I want to fucking just...
	I'm here.
	Yeah.
	You think at this point, we'd be able to email people to each other or something or like, you know.
	Email people.
	Yeah.
	Or I think like, send it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Just send it.
	Like a DoorDash shows up and you're like, oh, you're two houses off and you just forward them.
	That'd be crazy, bro.
	That'd be pretty great, actually.
	That would be.
	But sometimes I wonder, like, if they had that travel where you could, like, like warp or whatever, you know, like you could just go in a machine and then it sent, you know, you, you, you, next thing you know, you're in Cedar Rapids or something.
	It was like, I wonder, like, would you get, like, would some people show up in their fucking arms or, like, it's, like, you know, there's like a glitch or whatever?
	Something failed in the transmission.
	Like, you have a show like that night in Des Moines and they fuck.
	No arms.
	Yeah.
	You're like, fuck, dude.
	Send me back.
	Try this again.
	Yeah.
	And yeah, that would be the crazy part because sometimes you would just have to go do, like, if it's during Christmas and the holidays are so busy and like, oh, you got the wrong arms.
	And they like mix you up or whatever.
	You show up with like some big fucking BLM arms or whatever.
	You're like, oh, shit, dude.
	You know, I don't know.
	I don't even know what I'm talking about.
	Tommy Lee, thanks for coming in, man.
	Thanks for having me, dude.
	This is fucking cool.
	Yeah, it's really cool, man.
	Crazy, dude.
	Just because like, I mean, obviously, like, so many people tell you all the time, just, you know, Dr. Fielder, just so much of just like, I mean, my brother would beat me, beat me to you guys's music.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah.
	I was the drum dude.
	I was a snare for my brother, and it was awesome, but it was loving, you know, like, you know, but it was just, yeah, it was just so crazy.
	Like, we used to get all the rocker magazines, and like, they'd always have like, you know, like the pictures in there look so cool, and the stories would be so kind of vague, but somebody would be kind of bleeding or something, you know?
	Remember those magazines, dude?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like, Kegar.
	Yeah, They're gone.
	Kegar, or no, what was one of them?
	Kenny?
	Kagan?
	No, is that it?
	Oh, Kerrang?
	Kerrang, yeah.
	Kerang was the European version, yeah.
	Yeah, dude.
	Somebody got Kerrang in our neighborhood somehow, and we would.
	Kerrang.
	And then, what are some other ones that we got?
	That shit was so great, though.
	Circus.
	Yeah, Circus.
	Was another one?
	Circus, yeah.
	Yeah, dude, it was so great when those came in.
	Kerrang.
	You guys are touring still?
	Yeah, we're kind of finishing up.
	For the remainder of the summer, we're just doing some festivals here and there.
	Until, I think, September we finish up, but we're still finishing up that last stadium tour.
	But the summer is now just some festivals kind of assorted here and there, which are kind of fun, man.
	Yeah.
	It's different to, how do I explain it?
	You probably are familiar with this kind of like one-off stuff because you're doing comedy.
	You like fly in and do a show, come back, you know.
	Where on a tour, you get on a bus and you, you know, come fucking home for a year and a half.
	Yeah.
	So these weekend ones are fun.
	We just did one last weekend and literally left from Van Euys, went to Minot, played the show and was back 24 hours later.
	And it was just like, this is kind of cool too.
	Yeah.
	It's weird to kind of start up and stop like that.
	Yeah.
	But it is cool because you're in and out.
	Yeah, it's weird.
	It's like there's times when it's like, I'll be out on the road and I'm like, God, I want to be home.
	But then I'll be home and I'm like, I want to be out on the road.
	And then sometimes it gets to a point where it's like, I don't even know if I want to be home anymore.
	Dude, that's the exact, the grass is always greener.
	If you're out on the road, you're like, fuck, man, I'd kill to sleep in my own bed.
	And then when you're at home, you're like, fuck, I want to get back out.
	Yeah, you're like, my own bed just made me happy.
	You're like, I got to get out.
	I know, yeah.
	Yeah, it's definitely a problem.
	You find it hard to relax?
	Do you like to just keep it moving?
	Yeah, I want to keep going.
	Yeah, I get that vibe from you.
	I want to keep going.
	Because I think you start to do some things.
	You're like, oh, well, what else could I do?
	You know?
	And I don't think you know that until you do some, till some little opportunities come.
	You're like, oh, wow, this is possible.
	You're like, well, what else could I do?
	What else am I capable of?
	Am I using my skills to the best?
	Trying to be better, man.
	Yeah.
	Trying to be better always.
	What keeps you up?
	How do you like relax these days?
	Like, what kind of calms you out?
	Dude, about like seven or eight years ago, I got into fucking bonsai, man.
	And that's like that's been like a lifesaver.
	You know, it started out as just a fascination from all the times going to Japan.
	I'd always go to the Japanese gardens and be like, fuck, this is the most peaceful, beautiful shit I've ever seen in my life.
	How do I give me some?
	How do I give me a couple grams of that?
	It's kind of like nature by the gram.
	It is.
	It is.
	And I just started fucking watching YouTube videos on the art of it and the practice of it and how to do it.
	And I just went down a rabbit hole and I found it to be the most relaxing, fulfilling, you know, get me close to nature shit to like just even me out because I'm like you too.
	I'm pretty fucking hyper.
	I don't really like to sit still much.
	But that was like, I found my I found my thing, man.
	Oh, wow.
	This is it?
	Yeah.
	I thought they were way smaller than that.
	That's you?
	Yeah.
	In the white shirt?
	Yeah.
	Oh, my God, dude.
	I thought that was a lesbian.
	No offense, dude.
	I know a lesbian, but yeah, I'm like, holy sorry, bro.
	I was like, looking for you, dude.
	Oh, that's awesome.
	And this one came with real.
	This is in Nashville.
	Right outside of Nashville.
	That's at Bjorn's nursery.
	Oh, wow.
	He's now moved on to Japan.
	But yeah, that's kind of a that's on the large size, Bonsai.
	There's much, I mean, there's little, little guys and medium, large.
	So what is it?
	Because it almost looks like right there, like it's almost like a god, like you're a god over this little tree.
	It's like, that's what it looks like right there.
	Because I never realized how it looks like a whole big tree, just compact, huh?
	Yeah, that's basically what it is.
	I mean, people go up into the mountains and they'll dig out, you know, 20, 30, 40, 50-year-old trees and bring them back, cut them down, cut them all back, and put them in a small pot and just kind of start over.
	And that's years and years of work.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	So it takes a lot of work to get a bonsai to really grow?
	Yeah, to looking like that, a lot of years.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	So it's kind of, yeah, you're right.
	It's a project and it's you're calling it godlike, but like it's, you know, you're putting in a ton of love and your time and everything into this tree that you're, you know, it's like a person almost.
	Oh, yeah, I bet.
	So there's a lot, there's a lot more gratification from just it being a tree for me.
	Like I, I just love all that, man.
	Really?
	I got like, I think I'm at around 43 trees now.
	Like it's, I'm fucking obsessed.
	Damn.
	Yes.
	You're an addict, really.
	Yeah, I'm an addict.
	And do you keep them inside or where do you keep them at?
	I bring them inside and enjoy them like when the sun goes down.
	Damn, bro.
	But most trees, that's the first thing people, the mistake they make.
	You know, I don't know if you're driving around, you see the guy by the side of the road in a van selling those little bonsai.
	You ever see that shit driving to the beach or something?
	Oh, yeah.
	If you're heading towards Malibu or something on PCH.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Well, people, the first thing people do is go like, oh, yeah, I got to get one.
	I want a bonsai.
	And they put it inside.
	And they fucking, they kill all the trees.
	That's the dude.
	These are like, dude, these are junipers and pines and shit like that.
	They don't grow indoors.
	Oh, these guys don't tell people that.
	I mean, there's very few that will grow inside.
	You know, some of the ficus and but that very few.
	Most bonsai trees, specimens grow outside.
	So it says right here, the practice of bonsai development incorporates a number of techniques either unique to bonsai or are used in other forms of cultivation.
	Like, so you trim the leaves.
	Like, yeah, what all the things you do to them?
	Yeah, you, well, I mean, you're constantly pruning, trimming, fertilizing, wiring.
	Like you take the different gauge wire and you're telling the branches where to go, you know, styling the tree all out.
	It's, you know, you're sort of dictating how this thing's going to, you know, your vision of how the tree will, you know, look its best.
	And is there a certain time when you go do it, Tommy, or is it just kind of like you're like, you know, I'm feeling this would be something to do today.
	Like, how much of a responsibility is it as an owner?
	It's daily, man.
	It's like, it's like, it's like, it's just part of the program.
	You know, I'll wake up and like rip some coffees and cigarettes, and then I go out and talk to the trees and chill out for a while.
	Got to get the day started right, man.
	Oh, for sure.
	You're a grower and a shower, dude.
	That's just crazy, bro.
	I can't even believe that.
	Wow.
	That's fascinating.
	You'd love it, man.
	If you like tripping out and just creating shit.
	But if you like trees and you like creating.
	I love being creative.
	And the wild thing is once life gets busy, it's hard to be as creative.
	It's hard to like do as much.
	It's hard to be as creative, I feel like.
	Did you ever feel like that with touring and stuff?
	It's like, because I can only imagine for you guys, I mean, it seemed like it was kind of once you launched, it was just like a brush fire, huh?
	With your band.
	Yeah, yeah, like, fuck, man.
	It's been kind of non-stop.
	Yeah.
	Since, you know, I mean, it's all, you're always fucking doing something.
	If you're not touring, you're in the studio making the music.
	If you're not making the music, you're taking a break to start a new record.
	You know what I mean?
	You're always doing shit.
	So was there choices?
	I don't know what the fuck I'm getting at.
	It's all right.
	I don't even know what the fuck I'm talking about.
	It's okay, man.
	What's one of the hardest parts about being about success as a group?
	Did you find kind of, because success as an individual kind of, like you have partners and you have teammates and you have people that support you.
	Sure.
	But like as a group, it's like there's, it's almost like you divided by four.
	So or like, or, you know, by however many people are in your band.
	So it's like, fuck, it just seems like it'd be so hard to navigate to keep everything going to maintain the success.
	That, yeah, that's you're, you're 100% right, man.
	Like anytime there's more people other than yourself involved, balancing, you know, four or three other guys and making that work is really rare, man.
	Really, really rare.
	And it's not easy.
	And somehow we've managed to fucking keep it together.
	Like, there's only a handful of bands that are still doing it.
	Oh, you know, shit, all of our peers just fell off here, fell off there.
	And like, that's what I was saying.
	I'm like, just really grateful because that kind of shit doesn't really happen all the time.
	I don't really know how to explain it.
	I'm just the glue in it.
	Do you feel like were you kind of the peacekeeper?
	Like, what was your kind of role, do you feel like?
	Or were you more like part of the problem?
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, because you can be one or the other.
	And some days it's day to day.
	It's like some days I know it's like, okay, today I'm part of the solution and today I'm part of the problem.
	Yeah, dude, I'm absolutely both.
	Absolutely both.
	But you got to have that, right?
	I guess.
	I don't know.
	Some people are good at just being part of the solution, I feel like.
	Yeah, that's true.
	That's probably the better way.
	Yeah.
	I just don't know if I, yeah, and I. But that's kind of boring, though.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah, for sure.
	But I just, yeah, I can't imagine that you guys survived that much because so many bands just disappeared.
	So many of them people, singers died.
	Yeah, even like Stone Temple Pot, like Scott Wildin, you know, like when I was growing up, like that was a crazy dude.
	Yes.
	That sound was just something else.
	Yeah, the best.
	I loved STP.
	Did you guys ever tour with them or no?
	We never toured with them, but we were on a couple of festivals with them.
	Yeah.
	You know, that's kind of where everyone meets up when you're on festivals.
	Yeah.
	It's like the pumpkins, Motley Crew, STP, fucking Van Halen.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	That's where everybody links up and you're all.
	That's fun.
	The festivals are fun, man.
	Yeah.
	Because otherwise you're just kind of by yourself.
	I mean, you're with your band.
	At least with the, you know, you're with your coworkers and your bandmates.
	But yeah, it's kind of a, yeah, people think that there's like all, everybody always hangs out together and it just doesn't get to happen like that a lot.
	No, pretty much only festivals, you know, when you're out touring with another band, it's just you guys, yeah, or Christmas parties.
	You ever have you ever throw any sick Christmas parties?
	Did you ever have a party?
	Some people have like, this is the year, this is the time of year.
	I throw a fucking party every year and it rocks.
	Oh, whoa.
	Um, I mean, I've thrown some parties, but nothing like every year, like, you know, that like that, this is the one.
	Do you do that?
	No.
	No ragers?
	Oh, I mean, I've thrown, I mean, a lot of, no, a lot of times I would just end up getting drugs and doing them by myself at home.
	That's the best.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It was like the scariest and the best.
	And it was like, I would, I would like rip some cocaine and I'd be like, all right, man, I'm going to get my shit together.
	Things are going to be different.
	And then I would just walk in the other room and it'll be like, I got to go check on that cocaine.
	And I would go back.
	Just one more before I go to sleep.
	Yes.
	And yeah.
	That's the craziest.
	Oh, dude.
	The hardest thing to do is hide your cocaine in the other room, dude.
	Yeah.
	I would try to hide my cocaine from myself, dude.
	I remember there would be times I would even blindfold myself, right?
	And like, yeah, walk around my apartment like this, right?
	With the cocaine in my hand and then kind of throw it somewhere, right?
	Or like, and sometimes I would even, I would get dizzy and then just throw it like that while I was spinning.
	So you don't know where it went?
	Yeah.
	And then, dude, seven minutes later, dude.
	Where the fuck?
	Oh, I would have moved everything from one side to the other.
	Like furniture, just fucking.
	Oh.
	And you're in an apartment, so you'd have to move everything so quietly, dude.
	And when you're high on cocaine, the sound, any sound is deloured.
	Oh, my God.
	Because I think you don't want to not hear maybe some cocaine in the distance.
	You're like, holy shit, was that some cocaine?
	But then it's like I get my skin starts getting warm and it feels like my heart is like, I don't know if we're going to keep beating or not.
	And you're like, all right, hold on.
	Let's, let's, let's calm down a little bit.
	Or let's write a will.
	Did you ever write a will or anything like that?
	No.
	No, that's pretty heavy, dude.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Even when I was dying, I guess I was kind of a chatty kathy or whatever.
	But yeah, I would fucking still.
	Write a will, dude.
	I've written probably, yeah, 16, 17 wills over the years.
	Oh, my God.
	That's wild.
	Oh, sad.
	Because I would feel bad, you know, if somebody found me or whatever, I'd want them to, you know, oh, you have it all kind of pinned out like, hey, sorry, you know, my bad, I would start with usually or something like that.
	I don't know, like, because you wanted to ease them into it, you know?
	Oh, my God, dude.
	Did you, like, if you, when you.
	Because we had the same sober date at one time.
	You may not even remember it.
	Yeah.
	I remember I went to a meeting one time, this probably about four years ago, and it was at a house meeting in Beverly Hills.
	Yeah.
	And, yeah, nice guy would let people use his home even if he wasn't there.
	And we had the same, I want to say it was like October 17th or something, but I could be totally wrong.
	And then I lost that at some point.
	Yeah.
	And I did too.
	Okay.
	You know what, dude?
	Here's the problem.
	Tell me what it did.
	Here's the problem.
	And maybe this is true for you.
	Right when I get to a fucking year, I'm so excited that I fucking did something for a year that I want to celebrate.
	Yeah.
	And so I only make it a year every fucking time because I'm so pumped.
	I'm like, fuck yeah.
	And then I party and then I'm like, one, fuck, every time, dude.
	And you have long arms.
	So I bet raising your hand in the meeting sucks the most, dude.
	If you have like short arms, like people are like, oh, I didn't even see him.
	But you fucking throw that fucking giraffe up there and people are like, God.
	Oh, dude.
	It is kind of messed up, though, because there is that level of excitement at hitting one year that makes you just want to fucking rearrange somebody's fucking asshole, you know?
	Yes.
	Yeah, you want to fucking celebrate because you actually fucking did something really good.
	Yeah.
	You know, you just fucking, I don't know.
	You're proud.
	Yeah.
	You want to celebrate.
	Fuck.
	What, um, do you remember the first line of cocaine you ever did or no?
	A what?
	You remember the first time you ever did cocaine or no?
	The first?
	The very first time I did acid.
	Fuck.
	No.
	Wow.
	I don't.
	I remember the first time I did acid, but I don't remember the first time I did cocaine.
	Yeah, I can't imagine not remembering it, but that's awesome that you don't.
	And you probably should.
	Yeah.
	I think people sometimes probably look at you and be like, that dude, no way that dude remembers the first time he did cocaine.
	Yeah.
	Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
	Do you remember?
	Yeah, I remember, dude.
	I was in Tucson and this dude who used to bike to work all the time, right?
	He was in his 40s, and that was a dead giveaway that he did a lot of cocaine.
	My buddy Dennis, he was a bus boy like me, which was also a dead giveaway that this dude was obviously using his money and extracurriculars, dude.
	And he would get all coked out and bike to work in the desert.
	And I'm like, this dude's a fucking animal, you know, and he had severe sunburn all the time.
	Whoa.
	And yeah, and he took me to a party.
	And it wasn't a party.
	It was just two guys doing cocaine upstairs somewhere at an apartment complex.
	And I walked in and this dude comes up from doing some cocaine.
	And he only had one eye, I remember.
	And I was like, I thought like in my head, I was like, oh, fuck, I wonder if he like hit it so hard.
	He just like sucked his eye back into his hair.
	Like that's where part of my brain was.
	And I was kind of scared.
	And I was like young and they were all older.
	But then, yeah, we started doing some cocaine.
	And the guy had a bunch of free oranges there because he, I guess, had some oranges nearby or something.
	And yeah, I remember eating oranges and doing some blow.
	And then watching the bumbo.
	So obviously pretty sad.
	And you'd think God would be like, hey, this is such a lame experience.
	You're not going to want to do this again.
	But then it just, like, I don't know.
	There was times, yeah, I don't want to romanticize it too much because I don't want somebody going out there and just getting rid of their family right now.
	But it's like, yeah, there's some kid out there right now gathering oranges.
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	Things are going to change.
	But yeah, then it just like, sometimes it was fun.
	I mean, if you were involved in like sex or hooking up with, it just added excitement.
	It had like a dangerous element.
	You know, that kind of shit was fun.
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	Yeah, what about LSD, man?
	I'm trying to, what was the first time you ever did it?
	The first time I ever did it, I was fucking 13. Damn.
	I know.
	I know.
	Sorry, but that's crazy.
	Yeah.
	And who had it?
	This girl from my school, she had it.
	And fuck, what a fucking trip, man.
	That shit was wild.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	And you know, immediately you do all the shit that you heard you're not supposed to do.
	Like, dude, whatever you do, don't look in the mirror.
	Right.
	Where's the mirror?
	Yeah.
	And we'll be like, ah!
	You know, doing all the, all the dumb shit.
	Watching your skin fucking kind of breathe a little bit.
	That shit was always pretty cool.
	Yeah, dude.
	I remember fucking this.
	It's a long story, but towards the end of the end of the night, I had like a, you remember, you know that classic Farrah Fawcett poster with the big nipples ripping through her bathing suit?
	Yeah.
	It was a classic Farah Fawcett poster.
	Yeah.
	That's the one, dude.
	God, boy.
	Yeah, that was on my wall by the side of my bed.
	And I just, I just remember looking over at that and just I just I couldn't figure out like those how how are those nipples that fucking hard they're like yeah they're like sausages and I would just I just stared at them I don't know why yeah those obsessed those fucking NASA hats yeah look I mean those bitches are fucking those things are taking the hey the turkey's
	done brother yeah wow yeah but that's crazy like was there a point where you started because you once you become like as famous as you guys have have become in your lives you get to meet all the hottest chicks dude yeah you kind of do and was that weird like if you get to meet the hottest chicks and you're like holy shit these are the hottest chicks yeah you know it's weird because it's it's definitely i i can easily tell you what it's like not
	getting to meet those chicks right like i can meet some chicks right i'll meet like but if you're like dang that's the hottest chick you know and then you're just there talking to them you know that had to be crazy or were you good with chicks even early on in your life um not really not really it's kind of uh kind of like like like more like lonery like i'm just like you
	know go i couldn't wait to get out of school and go home and play my drums in the garage.
	Okay.
	Even if it was by yourself.
	Yeah, like I I wasn't like really chasing skirt, you know?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, until later.
	Dude, what about your first kiss?
	Do you even remember it or not?
	I do, dude.
	Yeah.
	And I don't know what it is about this, but it was the most romantic, most, at least in my eyes.
	Yeah.
	Fuck, I don't even know.
	It was this little girl down the street.
	We used to play all the time.
	We were friends.
	I think I was probably five.
	Oh, damn.
	You're going to say 15. No, I was like, God, I'm a fucking late bloomer.
	Yeah, dude.
	Whoa, loner boy.
	Yeah, like five.
	And we were playing, we were playing like hide and seek or something in the front yard.
	And we ran, I was looking for her, and she was around behind these bushes.
	And there are these bushes, they had this like, they had a bunch of these little red berries on there.
	And I don't know what the fuck came over me.
	I was like, I picked a berry and I put it, I said, let's kiss.
	And I put the berry in between our lips.
	And I don't know what that was supposed to signify or what that meant, but I don't know.
	I grabbed a berry and I just thought it would be the coolest thing ever to put a berry between our lips.
	And she did it.
	And we did it.
	And I will never forget that shit for the rest of my life.
	Kind of romantic, really.
	It's weird.
	Yeah, definitely weird, dude.
	In my eyes, it was like, I was like, I'd grown up.
	I was like, whoa, I just did it.
	Yeah.
	I did the thing.
	On to the next thing.
	Yeah, like, I don't know what the berries would supposed to say.
	I think it's also, well, it's kind of a bait thing.
	It could be like the apple from like the Bible or something.
	You know, who knows?
	Yeah.
	You don't know what little fables get in your head.
	It could have been like from that thing where they got the two animals eating the spaghetti or something I'm talking about.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Or it could have been like, you know, for all I know, maybe there was some danger in there.
	Like this is poisonous.
	Oh, yeah.
	A little bit of Romeo and Juliet.
	But we're going to pull this off.
	Like, you know, we're above the poison.
	I don't know.
	Let's take a risk here together.
	Yeah.
	You in?
	Here's a five milligram bear.
	Let's go.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, maybe that's.
	Maybe that's where my mind was.
	Was kind of a romantic, you think, growing up a little bit?
	Full on.
	Yeah.
	Full on, dude.
	Just a sucker.
	A sucker for a woman that showed you attention kind of thing?
	Well, just like just a sucker for like surprise, for, you know, fuck just romance.
	The chase, the.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know, yeah, sure.
	Yeah, dude.
	Fuck.
	Oh, yeah, dude.
	I remember seeing a girl one time for the first time.
	I mean, I'd seen my sisters, but they were kind of whatever, you know?
	But I remember just like, we were on a, I was on like, what was it, vacation or something, but somebody had driven us somewhere.
	And I remember with your sisters?
	No, I'd seen my sisters or whatever, but it never, you know, I'd never had any like, you know, I'd never looked at them, obviously, like as girls, I guess, really.
	Oh, yeah.
	They're more like your bros.
	Yeah, they're just like my brothers with like tits that I'll never see, you know, which is fine.
	Which is fine because that's how God wants it, you know?
	I mean, if God wanted you to see your sister's tits, he'd have made them your cousin.
	That's what my uncle used to say all the time, but he was a fucking weirdo, and he's going to be, I mean, I don't know if he's doing fine or whatever, whatever.
	But I remember, dude, I went to Dallas or Houston or somewhere.
	I don't know.
	It might have just been across town, but I went by this river and I was just getting something from this, picking up rocks or just doing some things that kids do or something, trying to step on a tadpole.
	And I looked over and there was like a girl there.
	And her family might have been like 20 feet away.
	I don't know.
	But in my mind, it was just me and her.
	It's like, yeah.
	And I was like, whoa.
	Whoa.
	Yeah.
	And then I was like, oh, she, yeah, I've went into some negative place, but it was just magical, man.
	It was the first time I'd just seen like a girl.
	And then when I got a little older, my baby.
	Did you kiss this girl?
	Or no?
	No, I just wish it was.
	It was just like, oh, my God.
	Wow.
	What is it?
	Yeah.
	What is that?
	Yeah, it felt like I felt like a net, like a, like someone who was explored, like, like Christopher Columbus, and I just landed on a new land.
	It was like, I just never, I was like, oh, this is so different looking at her.
	Yeah.
	What is this?
	Where am I?
	And then my babysitter gave me a ride to summer camp one time.
	This was like when I was probably 10 or 11. And she reached over and put the seatbelt on me.
	And it was like the first time I'd had like a one, like a woman kind of like, I think caringly do something for me, it felt like.
	And she turned on Bon Jovi.
	Oh, yeah.
	And I was like, I just wanted her to play Bon Jovi a million times.
	And I kept taking my seatbelt off and she would put it back on.
	And I was like, this is fucking living.
	My seatbelt came off again, dude.
	Oh, every time.
	Just put your hand near my dick.
	Again, please bump up against it.
	I love it, dude.
	That was pretty.
	So, yeah, some of that stuff.
	Like, yeah, all that young, I loved all of that energy, man.
	That shit was crazy.
	Yeah, dude, I'm trying to think of like, what other skills did you have before you started playing tunes and stuff?
	Wait, wait.
	I want to know about your first kiss.
	Okay, my first kiss, dude.
	Somebody, they had this girl in her neighborhood that kind of a bit of a chipped tooth, kind of, she looked kind of like Lloyd Christmas, remember from that movie?
	I don't know.
	Like, there he is right there.
	Lloyd Christmas.
	Okay.
	She had a little bit of that.
	No way, dude.
	Like, he's got a real pitch.
	A full split?
	No, she's got kind of a sandwich.
	No, zoom in more on that grill piece there, Daddy.
	See how it's kind of got that sand wedge going?
	The notch out.
	Yeah.
	She had a little bit more of a pitching wedge.
	It was a little bit more there than Jim Carrey has here.
	But some kids locked us like in a room and made us kiss each other.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Some kids locked you two in a room.
	And said, you guys better fucking kiss each other or you're not coming out.
	And I think one of them called us f ⁇ s right.
	And I was like, well, what?
	At least hold on.
	Well, all right, let us figure it out a little.
	But it was just fucking, you know, older, mean kids during the summer, just bored, you know?
	Oh, no.
	So this is a bad experience.
	Oh, it was kind of bad.
	Yeah, I didn't even think about that.
	It was kind of bad.
	Yeah.
	Oh, fuck.
	And then I think after that, I think, oh, dude, I never thought about it.
	Yeah.
	After that, I was always so nervous around, I was like super nervous around them.
	Oh, whoa.
	But, you know, you figure it out and that's part of your deal, you know?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You figure it out and that's part of your deal.
	Yeah, was it hard for you to like be in love since your life was going that fast?
	Like what was that like?
	Difficult.
	Because like I just always say like just long distance love is just it's extremely fucking difficult to keep a relationship when you're constantly fucking going.
	It's nearly impossible.
	Like, you know, to and to be successful at it for a few years here and a few years there is pretty rare.
	Did you have any of your marriage?
	Because you've been married a few times.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Did you have any that you felt like you had to go back and make an amends to or something like that?
	Are you still on good speaking terms with your ex-wives and stuff?
	Or is it?
	Yeah, well, I'm cool with all of them.
	We're cool.
	You know, it's all good.
	Did any of it happen so fast?
	You're like, gee, I don't even know what happened.
	Because I can only imagine this that your life, like a lot of it just felt like it went so, because it just, you know, things are going fast.
	Like my life sometimes gets a little fast.
	I'm like, I don't even know what's going on anymore.
	Yeah.
	Shit flies, man.
	You spend most of your time just hanging on.
	You're like, dude, fuck, slow down.
	What is happening here?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Was it, what were your parents like?
	Were they pretty proud of you and stuff?
	Or what was that kind of relationship like with them?
	Was it weird becoming famous and stuff?
	And then like.
	You know what?
	They were super, super supportive.
	I guess, you know, I'm really lucky.
	Both of them were extremely fucking supportive.
	Go ahead.
	No, I think, yeah, because I think sometimes it's like, I don't know, sometimes there's a weird thing about fame where it's like, or popularity, where it's like, you almost feel like you don't belong to you or anyone anymore a little bit.
	Like, does that make any sense to you?
	Like, there's so much you out there that you just belong to everybody.
	Yeah.
	I don't know what I'm talking about.
	Yeah, no, I, I, shoot, man.
	We should have never talked.
	You know, neither one of us knows what we're saying.
	Damn, dude.
	Those guys are on some other shit, bro.
	They'll rewind and catch up later.
	Don't be the mustard, catch up.
	Bro, that's the fucking dumbest joke.
	That's awesome.
	I love that one.
	Don't be the mustard, catch up.
	Dude, my favorite joke I ever heard is, what's the last thing you want to hear when you're giving a blowjob to Willie Nelson?
	Oh.
	I'm not Willie Nelson.
	Oh, dude.
	Oh, dude.
	That'd be the fucking worst.
	What the fuck?
	That'd be the worst to be giving a blowjob to Willie fucking Nelson, bro.
	And he's like, I'm not Willie Nelson.
	Who the fuck are you, dude?
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, Jesus, dude.
	Dude, what did I...
	Did you?
	Is that true?
	Yeah, dude.
	Do you remember it?
	Tap dancing and ballet.
	I do remember it.
	And I mean, the shit was cool.
	Tap dance is still pretty fucking cool, I think.
	Tap dancing was fucking rad because you're essentially making fucking beats.
	Yeah, you're basically drumming with your feet.
	You know, it's rhythmic and it was right up my alley.
	I loved it.
	And then my sister was taking ballet and I went one time and I was like, and it's fucking loaded with fucking just beautiful girls.
	And immediately I'm like, oh, I want to do this.
	Yeah.
	So I dove right into both tap dancing and ballet.
	And then that day happened when, you know, it was like time for the big recital and your picture's in the paper, the local paper.
	And I'm in a, in fucking tights dancing with this beautiful girl.
	And the next day at school, man, it was just like, dude, you are a, what are you a f ⁇ ing?
	Like, what the fuck?
	And I quit.
	I quit dancing the fucking next day.
	I was just like, I couldn't handle the peer pressure.
	But I'm like, wait a second.
	All my friends at school are calling me, you know, fucking fucking gay.
	But I'm like, you all are fucking spanking each other in the locker room and whipping each other with towels.
	Like, I don't know where you're getting the gay shit from because I'm here with these girls.
	This is what's happening over here.
	Fuck you guys.
	I can't believe I quit.
	See, that's why I let them fucking dictate it.
	No, yeah, so many kids did.
	I couldn't handle the Peer pressure, man.
	Dude, if you'd have done ballet with a dip in, though, they would have fucking came around, I bet.
	If you'd have put a fucking big third baseman's chew in your mouth, dude, they'd have been like, This motherfucker's rocking, dude.
	That's what I should have done.
	It is so true, yeah.
	It was like so much was dictated by what the neighborhood kids felt, man.
	Yeah, and the easiest thing for somebody to do is to call you a bitch, call you a f ⁇ , call you a pussy, just something to like kind of shut you down.
	Yeah, it's kind of crazy.
	That's how so much of art like gets kind of really stymied.
	But I think in your condition, it seems like that, like the rhythm found a way out of your fucking body.
	It was like, oh, it's got to come out of here.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	Absolutely, man.
	It's like going to, yeah, it's going to come out of my hands or my wiener eventually, too.
	Yeah, that thing even had a pay-per-view.
	Dude, I love this, bro.
	When I was a kid, you know what I used to watch, dude?
	I won't even lie about it.
	Shirley Temple movies, dude.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Bro, I'll tell you the craziest story, dude.
	I went in.
	It was like one of the first auditions I ever got when I got to LA.
	They're like, you need to sing a song for us, dude.
	No way.
	I swear to God, bro.
	And I think I'd just been on something where I'd been watching some fucking S Temple, dude.
	And, um...
	You're like, no, no.
	And I sang his fucking, some song from something she did.
	And these people looked at me like, God, this is just something's uncomfortable here.
	Even them, even though they were like liberal, probably, and they were all closeted or recloseted or whatever.
	It had been like, you know, they were probably, you know, whatever sex shit.
	It was an audition, right?
	Yeah.
	And they're just like, we need you to sing now.
	Oh, dude.
	And I just sang a damn Shirley Temple song, dude.
	No fucking way.
	What the hell were you auditioning for?
	Fucking fucking shit.
	I want you to sing.
	And fuck them, bro.
	That's what y'all get, bro.
	Y'all don't want to fuck with some real shit.
	Y'all ain't getting any more of it, dog.
	So that's that, dude.
	But yeah, so you went in there, you think, also to meet the ladies, huh?
	Oh, hands down.
	Hands down.
	I went in and watched my sister and in her class, I was just like, oh, what am I doing?
	Yeah.
	Why am I not here?
	Yeah.
	I want to be doing this.
	Yeah, dude.
	Oh, that's the best, man.
	Yeah.
	What about your first time having sex?
	Do you ever remembered it or no?
	First, yes.
	Oh, yeah.
	Was it exciting or scary, do you think?
	It was both.
	Yeah, it was all.
	It was everything, you know, like all kinds of crazy shit.
	Was it a surprise or was it planned?
	Going down for the first time.
	I guess it was.
	I guess it was kind of planned.
	Yeah.
	It was with my next-door neighbor.
	Yeah, damn, dude, you didn't even...
	Oh, my God.
	Brenda.
	Brenda.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	I can say the first name, right?
	Totally, dude.
	And, dude, and it was my, and my, we were talking about my sister earlier.
	My sister's best friend.
	Like, best friend.
	I bring Brenda into, my dad built a room inside of the garage.
	Like a soundproof room where I could play drums and not like bum him out.
	Yeah, totally.
	So I had this like little like box inside the garage, a little soundproof room.
	And it was like my fucking fort, you know?
	And I was like, man, I really like this chick.
	I want to fucking bang this girl.
	And so I brought her into my like my like spot and turned the lights out.
	Out completely?
	Was it completely dark?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Completely dark.
	I don't know why, but gosh, man.
	But it's adventurous.
	Yeah.
	And we're fucking going at it.
	You know, there's all that weird shit that's happening.
	You're like, whoa, this feels crazy.
	What's going on?
	She's, you know, all the feelings are going.
	And my fucking sister walks in.
	And I'm fucking her best friend.
	And she just goes, and she runs and tells my mom and my parents.
	And everybody's in trouble.
	We get put on restriction.
	We're not allowed to see each other.
	Like, it was a great and terrible experience.
	Because Romeo and Juliet almost, because you couldn't see each other anymore.
	Yeah.
	And we could see each other from our bedrooms.
	No.
	And I'd just be like, hey, dude.
	I swear, out of a fucking movie.
	Oh, sweet.
	I literally just came into my fucking, just seeing the kids just waving.
	Dude.
	Gosh.
	Yeah, kind of.
	It was both.
	It was all of it.
	Yeah.
	Do you remember your first?
	Yeah, dude.
	I got caught into some bullshit in town.
	And, oh, dude, the crazy, the first time I tried to get a BJ, right?
	So there was this girl who was doing BJs, right?
	And she was like the funniest girl in town.
	Like, she always made me laugh and stuff like that.
	And she and I liked each other.
	Oh, cool.
	And then, but she had like seen somebody else or something.
	And then she had started doing BJs.
	And I was like, but then, and then she liked me.
	And I was like, oh, my God, dude, what if I'm the guy who like gets a BJ amongst our people?
	I was like, I just don't even know if I could handle that.
	Like people being like, hell was the BJ or whatever.
	Oh, you're getting fucking BJs now, you little pussy.
	Just shit like that.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Just fucking, like, you just can never win with humans, right?
	And so people suck.
	Oh, it's unbelievable.
	And so I remember like, it was some girl's birthday party and we had planned to go meet behind a tree, right?
	And so she went over there and the tree she picked, it was a pretty narrow tree, right?
	And so she was going to, I was going to receive the BJ right behind the tree, right?
	So we go back there, we're kind of talking, and it's fucking so uncom, like all my fucking blood is literally like, it's kind of hiding from my penis.
	And my blood's like, when do we go?
	Send us in, you know, and it's like, stay up here.
	We got to talk.
	And there's like a dog, like fucking in the distance, just, you know, just under a lamplight or whatever.
	And there's some kids you can hear playing games.
	And it's a birthday.
	And then she just starts BJing me, dude.
	And I'm like, and I'm so nervous, bro.
	Cause I always would get super nervous around women when I was young.
	Yeah.
	And then the girl's mom comes out.
	Oh, no.
	And the tree wasn't that wide.
	And I could just imagine, I could see what the mom was seeing.
	She was seeing like me kind of standing like this and I and the girl like low, but then like, you know, the tree was kind of blocking like the actual act.
	And I just remember putting my fucking hands up like this and just looking at the mom.
	Like I didn't have anything to do, like trying to be like, I don't have anything.
	What does this mean?
	I don't know.
	I'm not doing anything.
	Because I do like, these are the only two hands she can see.
	So like, you know, so like, but it was that third hand, brother, that party hand.
	Oh, my God.
	God.
	And had you had sex?
	No.
	Before, this is your first time.
	Yeah.
	First sexual.
	First sexual real encounter, dude.
	I touched a girl's tits in the movies one time watching that movie Pumpkinhead.
	Remember that scary movie?
	No.
	It was called Pumpkinhead.
	It was real scary.
	Oh, boy.
	And I touched a girl's breast, and she had very hard breasts.
	She was kind of built like a fella, really, but pretty cute.
	And dude, some kid in Pumpkinhead got a hand job.
	Part of it ejaculated onto my fucking arm.
	His kid Chad, when I was a kid, forgot about that.
	No way.
	Yeah.
	And he died in a car accident years later.
	What the hell?
	He was driving, dude.
	He was changing a CD out of his CD player.
	He put a CD into his mouth to put the other one in.
	And he fucking hit something and it just like no fucking way.
	Forgot all about that, man.
	It was crazy.
	Whoa.
	But yeah, but then I ended up having sex behind a bowling alley in our town like a couple of years, or years after that, like three or four years later.
	What happened?
	Okay, what happened?
	Me and this girl just like, she had been having sex and stuff.
	And I was like, wanted to have sex or whatever.
	And so we just tried to find a place we could meet up that was like near where we lived.
	And we went back behind this bowling alley called Tiffany Lanes.
	And it's closed for renovations right now.
	But it all.
	How do you know that?
	Oh, because I was there not long ago.
	Oh, shit.
	And my buddies Mary said they're not.
	They're turned to the scene of the crime, dude.
	They said they're remodeling it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Tiffany Lane.
	Look at the Google reviews.
	Go to Google Reviews on there.
	Tiffany Lane's.
	There you go, dude.
	In Louisiana?
	Yeah, pretty awesome, dude.
	Whoa, dude.
	Oh, I'm here because of Diovan who lost something precious at this bowling alley so long ago.
	Oh, my God, dude.
	But that's kind of crazy.
	So, yeah, I'm excited that they are redoing it.
	I'll go back.
	But yes, kids are throwing rocks at us and stuff, too, dude.
	It was crazy.
	Wow.
	And so, yeah, it was hard to keep an erection with like rocks coming, like rocks, you know, hitting off of sheet metal and stuff like that.
	But I was just so young that nothing could stop you, you know?
	Yeah.
	And then I remember, yeah, I went into some girl's bedroom in my neighborhood and she seemed like an adult because she smoked cigarettes.
	And she seemed like she was 40. You know, she was one year older, but just because she smoked and she smelled like cigarettes was like, older woman.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And that was crazy.
	And then, yeah, but right when we started to hook up, I was so nervous I couldn't get an erection.
	And then her mom thankfully came and busted in on us.
	Oh, geez.
	Oh, or I was like, this has got to stop.
	I just yelled.
	I said what the mom was going to say.
	I thought maybe if I said what she was going to say, like it would adjust the night dynamics or whatever, you know?
	I was like, this has got to stop.
	I was like, I like this guy.
	Like, I think that's where I was at, you know?
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	Dude, did you, I heard somewhere, and you can deny this, but, or it doesn't matter either, but that you used to, you would go on dates with women.
	You would get paid to go on dates with women.
	Yes.
	Was that a real thing that happened in your life?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And do you have to have like an overseer for that, like a pimp or something for it?
	There was this Lady that was in our apartment complex, she was like a madame all day.
	Yeah, she was running, you know, her thing.
	And yeah, I'd get paid to go out with these older women and just sit there and have dinner with them.
	Or if they wanted to fuck, do that too.
	We did that for about a year or so, about a year or two.
	Was there good money in it?
	Yeah.
	It's kind of crazy.
	And that was in LA?
	I was a hooker.
	Yeah, kind of, I guess.
	Yeah.
	Fuck yeah, dude.
	A male escort?
	I don't know.
	Hooker escorts.
	What the fuck's the dip?
	Yeah.
	Hooker sounds like you don't have insurance, but you're still going to do it.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Male escort sounds like you're at least applying for some sort of like government aid with it, I feel like.
	The one they refer to as a male escort Gigolo, it says, and refer to the male escort Gigolo, applying female customers, rent boy hustler.
	Do you remember any of the dates or not?
	Yeah, sure.
	Was it embarrassing or were you prideful about it, kind of?
	Well, you know, if the lady was like an older lady where you're like, whoa, I hope this is just dinner, you know, you're stoked.
	Right.
	You're like, oh, you start coughing a little.
	Yeah, I'm just going to have dinner and drinks and just entertain her.
	Yeah.
	Say my wiener's broken or something.
	And that's it.
	You know, yeah, you'd get stoked when that would happen.
	But sometimes they wanted more?
	Yeah, and sometimes they wanted more and you're like, oh, man.
	That part's not fun.
	Because I don't know, like, fucking when you're not into it is a weird, is a weird thing.
	Yeah, it's kind of like when you have to dance at a wedding, but you know they're going to get divorced or whatever.
	Little dude.
	You're like, oh.
	All right, I'll go out there.
	One song.
	Okay, fine.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's tough.
	Oh, my God.
	Dude.
	Fuck, man.
	Sometimes you get some hot chicks, though?
	Yeah, sometimes.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	That's cool.
	Yeah, dude.
	One time there was a casting director, and I invited her to see a comedy show, right?
	And so, because I was like, oh, she's going to, maybe she'll, but she was also really cool.
	We kind of hit it off.
	So we're kind of like friends.
	But there wasn't a place I invited to, I had the night wrong.
	And so she came anyway.
	And then, so we're just, she's like, we walk upstairs to where the show is going to be.
	It was over on La Sienega or La Brea, room five, this place is called.
	And we, and it's, it's not there.
	And I'm like, what?
	She came.
	And I'm like, I was like, well, let me at least get you dinner, you know?
	And so we sit downstairs.
	We're eating.
	She gives me like half of a weed cookie.
	I'd never had a weed cookie before.
	So I ate it.
	And like 20 minutes later, dude, I didn't know.
	I didn't know if this was my wife.
	I didn't know who this person was.
	I was like, am I fucking married?
	And we're out to dinner right now.
	And it's our anniversary.
	I couldn't figure out what was going on.
	Wow.
	And I just tried to kiss her.
	What's that?
	I tried to kiss her, you know, like I'm having a beautiful time with you tonight or something.
	She's like, what in the fuck is going on?
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, my fuck, dude.
	Not your wife.
	Whoa.
	Oh, that was horrible, bro.
	And then I laid in my bed for two days.
	I missed my birthday because I was so high, dude.
	Jesus.
	Oh, that was bad.
	Oh, my God, dude.
	When y'all started traveling and getting drugs and stuff, was it hard to have sex on drugs, though?
	Like, I don't see how you could do drugs and screw, you know?
	Yeah, I was like with like what you said earlier, I'd end up just going back to my room, my hotel room, mostly by myself.
	Really?
	As soon as you start fucking doing cocaine, I'm like, I don't, I'd rather just party with me.
	You know, I don't have to listen to any bullshit.
	I don't have to lie.
	Just me and you are going to get, we're going to go really fast in this room and hang out.
	You do that a lot.
	The second, yeah, I'd rather just be by myself.
	Yeah.
	You know what that is?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I would get real self-conscious if I was doing coke around other people too, I think.
	It wasn't fun that much for me.
	Oh.
	And I knew I just wanted to do more coke.
	I didn't really want to hear about whatever was happening with your life that much.
	Yeah.
	We call it lying powder.
	Yeah.
	Because let's get together and fucking sit around and lie to each other for a couple of hours.
	Why not?
	You know, like, you know, you're sitting there and you're doing blow with a bunch of people and all of a sudden you're making all these plans.
	Yeah, tomorrow, man, we're going to fucking, we're going to go out in the fucking lake.
	We're going to fucking bag wakeboard and fuck whatever.
	And it never happens.
	Never.
	You just, you know.
	Yeah.
	So I don't want to get together and just lie to each other.
	I'd rather just go back to my room and fuck those chicks, you know.
	Another time.
	Yeah, in the future, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, dude.
	Oh, cocaine?
	Well, it'll make you give your email address to a dolphin, dude.
	It just fucking, you'll fucking tell him.
	You'll be like, yeah, let's keep it.
	Let's holler at each other.
	We're going to fucking.
	And he's like, all right, dude.
	Bring your voice.
	I'll bring my voice.
	Email me.
	You're like, what is even worse?
	In the morning, you're like, who the fuck is this?
	Oh, my God.
	Stay away from me.
	God, dude.
	Scary.
	How bad was it like when addiction hit you guys' band and stuff?
	Is that pretty crazy?
	Yeah, dude, when it...
	And I know you've gone through it.
	Yeah.
	But like, was that one of the things that had the biggest effect on a band?
	Yeah.
	Like when, when you're looking around and you're seeing the guys in your band everybody's this close from not not waking up again you know um you know that kind of shit um and you know and you've you've reached a level of like um doing crazy shit like when you're shooting fucking Jack Daniels
	in your arm because you ran out of heroin when you could just drink the fucking jack and be like oh and just fucking drink we're out of heroin but I mean maybe if we shoot it it'll be fucking better it's just alcohol like when you're doing dumb shit like that we're like I think it's someone's gonna die here soon like we should all and we did it as a band we were like you know we'd take handfuls of fucking halcyons they were called and
	and then we'd fucking and go that and go out for the night but those are all these are all fucking like downers and sleeping pills so like who does that we're doing such dumb dangerous shit that everybody was like all right that's it we're all gonna do this together and we just it was like 89 we all went to fucking rehab together dude different rehabs but um but yeah where'd you go which
	one uh i went to this place called cottonwood oh in tucson yeah dude yeah dude tucson is retarded dude yeah shout out tucson dude i used to live in tucson out in the middle of nowhere dude crazy that's where i did my first coke with those guys with the oranges dude yes yeah oh yeah tucson is the first place i saw a school bus somebody had cut the top off of it and was driving it dude that's tucson bare down dude in the desert
	dude yeah oh yeah bro that's people oh you'll do some coke and just eat somebody's ass through a dream catcher out there dude out there dude a lot of zodiac killers and missing people out there dude it is dude oh you're praying to see the next streetlight out there because sometimes it's like far distance between the streetlights out there yeah um was that scary the first time you went or what was that like you're like i gotta be here yeah no i know i wanted you know i'm sure it's very
	different to someone who doesn't want to be there we were all everybody wanted to you're like the only way we can do it is to actually go somewhere yeah yeah actually go somewhere and if we all do it together our chances of fucking survival are going to be a lot better yeah you know like you know sometimes you just need a fucking a bro you know to be doing it with you oh yeah you know what i mean so all of us did it together and we were like oh fuck we can pull this we can do anything yeah you know it's it's cool
	and was it fancy was it a fancier one kind of no no it's just a regular kind of rehab it's one kind of cool thing about rehab you can go to them and it's just kind of like a mix of all types of people fucking wild right oh they're totally wild i went to just a uh you're hearing other people's stories going like you know maybe i'm not that bad you're you're talking yourself into fucking like bailing rehab these people are up let me out of here you're like i could be mayor in a
	month we haven't even got the family day yet this is nuts yeah having a bro in it is the biggest thing man i got one a couple buddies in nashville and here too it's like having some boys in and it's like just so you can check in with each other you keep rocking for each other and being sober is nice you know it's nice but it's all yeah man it is it is really nice man and
	everything just is so much easier and so much i don't know just less drama dude yeah less drama yeah and you can just wake up and be like okay i can do this today yeah you're not having to sleep in hide pray for gatorade or whatever pray for gatorade god dude that was all that kind of shit was the worst oh my god was there ever a show where you guys just couldn't even go on because you were too fucked up or no no never that's unbelievable to me yeah that
	is pretty wild because we'd get pretty fucked up yeah before the show but not not fucked up enough to where you couldn't you know to where you couldn't fucking bring it you know because if you i don't know well y'all songs that's one thing i was thinking about was you guys' music was high energy so it was like some some some groups they can there's different you know but you guys were i mean every one it almost starts out with the riff even some
	of the ballads so you're like yeah god you had to be able to show up for it yeah you can't and yeah especially like drumming dude that shit's so fucking physical if you are feeling or if you're up and drums are just doesn't work really it just doesn't work you got you're the fucking you're the fucking heartbeat of the machine yeah and if you are up this whole program's fucked up yeah you know that's so
	you you have to keep it together enough i mean there's times where you have you know had a little too much and you're thinking oh man i'm smoking right now i'm crushing this shit and you fucking watch a videotape back and you're like what the fuck was that dude okay now you know you can't do that yeah because that's fucked up but you're thinking you're just murdering yeah well that's happened
	a few times and then you go okay that doesn't work yeah that doesn't work yeah um yeah because uh uh in the dirt there's a lot of stuff where you guys are just partying so hard i mean obviously they do that for cameras you know or for films and to make it look cool yeah but did you feel cool about the dirt dude i was so pumped because it's so raw and so real and um i can't believe they smashed everything into an hour and a half that's a lot yeah
	they should have made it 10 episodes that it could have been a fucking mini series like you know like um but to get that amount of stuff uh in there um is just beyond and it was fucking awesome i i loved it man yeah it's It's really.
	MGK crushed it as you, too.
	He played you, didn't he?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	He did a great job.
	He did, dude.
	He was so fucking...
	I don't think enough credit for that, really, when I think back on that.
	He did a great job.
	He did an unbelievable job.
	Like, I've never seen somebody take so much.
	I've known him.
	I've known him for a while.
	And he calls me up and Dave goes, bro, I got the fucking part.
	I'm like, what are you talking about?
	He goes, dude, I'm fucking playing you.
	I go, what?
	He goes, yeah, dude.
	He goes, I got the fucking script.
	I'm coming over and we're going to go through this bitch line by line.
	And I want to know how shit really happened because I got to pull this off.
	And I want it to fuck.
	I want to fucking, I want to make you proud.
	I want to fucking murder this shit.
	Oh, that's cool.
	He goes, and, and, and it's just, it's just such a trip because we're kind of the same build, the same kind of fucking lanky, goofy, fucking, you know, and he, he, he came over, dude, and he, we spent hours, hours, days going over everything because he wanted to fucking rip it.
	Like he was like, I gotta fucking nail this.
	And he did.
	Yeah, he fucking killed it.
	Yeah.
	I remember there being kind of moments where I'd be like, damn, that's MGK.
	And, and he's fucking killing it.
	Yeah.
	Only every now and then would you kind of think that it was him.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I think, and I guess films and stuff like that, they just, they, yeah, that's hard to do, to put everything into 90 minutes.
	Is it hard for you to even remember some of what went on?
	You know what?
	Yes.
	And that, that, that movie was about the book and the dirt book.
	They said it was pretty true to form a lot of it, I think.
	Yes, it's identical, but to answer your question, I didn't, you know, thank God the other guys remembered shit because, you know, and vice versa, we all kind of reminded each other of things because shit's fuzzy for me about this or that time.
	Or, you know, depending on what people were going through at the time, people remember or don't quite remember.
	Yeah.
	So it was really that process of writing the book individually.
	Everybody kind of did their interviews.
	And, you know, later you find out, oh, fuck, that's right.
	You know, that's a cool thing.
	Yeah, that's cool.
	Yeah, it's on the end of a time capsule kind of.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And it's neat to have somebody else there to help you remember too.
	Yes.
	That's really the cool gift of it because it's so hard to sometimes just, yeah.
	Yeah, there's so much that has happened.
	It would be almost impossible, especially for us fucking retards to like remember all of it.
	Yeah.
	Oh, you know, come on.
	Unbelievable.
	Yeah.
	And a lot of it life, a touring life is you just kind of get ready enough to walk on a stage the next month, you know.
	Yeah.
	It's not a ton to it, really.
	It's like you go somewhere, you get, maybe you go out to eat if you're there for two days.
	Yeah, maybe.
	Yeah.
	Or you go see one thing if you're in the town the next day.
	Like if you're in Cleveland, you go to like the Rock Hall of Fame, you go do something.
	But otherwise, just like you're just getting yourself acclimated, just whatever you have to do to get yourself ready to get on stage.
	Yeah, and then you're out.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's so weird, dude.
	I tell people all the time, I go, I've been around the world a fucking hundred times and I've seen nothing.
	That's crazy.
	Literally.
	Like a meteor, really.
	It hasn't landed, yeah.
	Every fucking arena, stadium, bus, hotel room, like that's pretty much it.
	You know?
	Yeah, Frankfurt, what?
	Rotterdam?
	What?
	Yeah, you're like.
	So arena with a building with a lot of seats in it and a lot of people and repeat that a bunch of places and you're like, I really haven't seen much.
	When you started to get more frequently talked about it, like nothing, honestly.
	Oh, sometimes one of my dreams is to get married and have a wife and get a camper and just kind of go around and see even places where I've been, you know?
	Here's the thing.
	There's no way you can't sound like the dumbest fucking person to your wife.
	But you were here.
	You're like, yeah, I was.
	You were here already.
	Yeah.
	No, but that's cool.
	Like, I'll do that like on the tour bus on a day off.
	I refuse to fucking go to a hotel.
	I'm like, we're taking the bus and we're going to a lake.
	Yeah.
	And we're fucking spending the, you get the fucking barbecues out.
	Like, we're going to have something different.
	We're going to, we're going to break the repetition here and go see something.
	And live, be human.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's funny.
	You kind of give your, yeah, once you become busy enough, you become the business, you know?
	Yeah.
	And a part of being you, you almost get so little time to be yourself.
	Does that make any sense, man?
	Wow, you just nailed it.
	Yeah.
	Man, you just fucking nailed it.
	Sometimes I even miss myself, which is fucking really weird.
	That's a good thing, man.
	I mean, it's good to be successful.
	No, it's good to have the opportunities and, you know, it's a blessing for sure.
	It's cool that you're connected enough to realize that you miss yourself, even yourself.
	You're like, fuck, man.
	It's just crazy.
	Yeah, it's all interesting.
	The most interesting thing is just to be able to have the experience of what it's like to have some popularity or to be in certain spaces.
	It's just to even be a fly, because you're a fly on the wall, but you're you, and you're like, oh, this is just interesting to be here.
	Yeah, definitely.
	Was it hard?
	Because I know you got a couple of children.
	You have two.
	I got two boys.
	Two boys.
	And was it hard to decide to start a family when your life was like so when you have such a life?
	Like, was it hard?
	No, I always wanted one, man.
	I've always been that kind of like you know, fucking sucker for romance, having a family, you know, like that whole kind of kind of milk and cookies thing.
	Yeah.
	I've always always liked, you know, so yeah, it was something that I definitely wanted, you know.
	Did you just kind of become a certain age?
	You're like, I kind of have to do it now.
	Did the clock ever start to kind of tick for you a little?
	Did you ever feel like?
	I don't know.
	I think maybe.
	I think it was just, you know, right place, right time, right, you know, a lot of things have to be right for that to happen.
	But I'm just happy it happened, man.
	Yeah, that's a good point, too.
	I got some fucking amazing boys who are just a dream, man.
	What's something neat about each one of your kids that you really admire?
	Something neat about them?
	Or something that you admire about each one of them?
	They have some incredible resilience.
	They're brought up in a lot of not normal situations for them.
	And they've done really fucking well with just navigating.
	They're great.
	How are they different than each other?
	I think I met one of them.
	Dylan is the youngest on the right.
	I've called him Little Buddha since he was born.
	He's just like the reverse of his brother, who's more like me, Brandon.
	He can tell you.
	Yeah, the dude flipping the camera off, that guy.
	I'll be sponsoring him in a couple years.
	He's more hyper and kind of crazy like me.
	So they're completely opposite, which is great because I got one of each.
	Yeah, you got a yin and yang going.
	Yeah, dude.
	That's cool.
	Is it really cool being a dad?
	Like, what was something about it that really surprised you, you think, over time since you've had the experience?
	I don't think there's a better feeling in the world.
	As a matter of fact, I know there isn't.
	Of having your kids musically.
	Okay.
	You imagine, you know, a musician like myself, and all of a sudden I'm in the studio working on a song with my son.
	And that's going down.
	And my other son, who loves music as well, everybody's just like, everybody's in the mix.
	And I'm like, I'm going to start fucking crying right now because this is the coolest shit fucking ever.
	Oh, it's cool.
	Ever.
	Like, dude, I can't, you know what I mean?
	Like, when your kids grow up, they're just, some are nothing like their parents and others are.
	But to have them both just like really gravitate towards music and acting, Brandon's been doing, is just, there's nothing better.
	You know what I mean?
	I bet, especially if that's, because that's like almost all the things you love right there in one space, music and your two sons.
	Yes.
	So to have that mixed together, that would be super cool.
	It's insane, man.
	And then, you know, Andrew's sitting there and, yeah.
	It's incredible.
	Well, yeah, I mean, you were, I mean, you sang on some songs, but you weren't the lead singer, huh?
	Vince is the lead singer.
	You guys sing.
	Yeah, Vince sings.
	But some songs you sang on.
	Yeah, I sing.
	I mean, I typically sing.
	I play guitar, piano, drums, kind of do produce, you know.
	How much pressure do you realize over time?
	How much extra pressure is on a lead singer?
	A lot.
	That's not easy, man.
	It's not easy.
	They have to do almost extra work a lot of times, it feels like, too.
	Taking care of the shit, you know?
	And if you're doing it every night, you got to, you know, it's like, it's like, it's a muscle, you know?
	Yeah.
	You got to take care of it.
	Yeah, what else in that?
	I'm trying to think of the die.
	Oh, what about the part in the dirt where Ozzy snorts that piss?
	Is that true?
	Or they just made that up?
	Full-on true.
	Fuck.
	I know people ask that all the time.
	They're like, dude, really?
	I'm like, absolute fucking Lulu.
	You can't make that shit up.
	Yeah, to rip a line of fucking piss.
	There's my buddy Tony Cavalera that played him, dude.
	Dude, he was so high.
	Yeah.
	Oh, Ozzy was?
	So all of us right here, we had just come, we had just been on an overnight bus ride and Ozzy rode with us.
	So we're all, and we're doing rails the whole way.
	No one slept.
	Everyone just drink.
	So we're at the hotel and no one wanted to go to their room.
	Everyone wanted to still keep partying.
	So we go, let's go to the fucking pool.
	We go to the pool.
	And at that time, it was just kind of a thing.
	Everybody was into like out rock star and out grossing somebody out, like out partying.
	You know, like, no, dude.
	So Ozzy starts.
	Ozzy's wasted.
	He sees there's a little trail of ants going all the way to this kid's popsicle that he left on the ground, right?
	Yeah.
	And Ozzy looks down and fucking just snorts the whole line of ants going to the popsicle.
	And Nikki's like, okay, well, fuck that.
	So Nikki pulls the dick out at the pool.
	Everybody's, this is a hotel.
	This is like the four seasons, I think, in Dallas.
	Some fucked up people, kids, everything.
	Nikki goes, I fucked up.
	Watch this.
	Nikki goes to pee on the ground, and Nikki's going to lick up his own piss to like out.
	Oh, yeah.
	He got a recycling.
	And before Nikki could do it, Ozzy fucking beats him to it and licks up his piss.
	And then we're like, all right, Ozzy, you win.
	You win, dude.
	Have time.
	Yeah.
	And then, dude.
	That's awesome.
	What they don't show in the movie there is Ozzy's tour manager Goes, dude.
	Ozzy's fucking on one.
	You're responsible for him.
	Here's his hotel room key.
	Fuck, I'm done.
	I can't deal with this anymore.
	I'm like, oh, I got him.
	Cool.
	I'll take him to his room.
	So, anyway, after we get kicked out of the pool area for all that bullshit, they don't really go into it in the movie.
	I get, I'm like, come on, Ozzy, we got to, we get kicked out.
	We got to take you up to your room.
	He goes, oh, all right, mate.
	I put him, we get in the elevator, we're going up, and he's, and there's people in the fucking elevator, and he pulls his pants down, and he just starts fucking shit.
	He's shitting.
	I'm like, Ozzy, dude, no.
	Fuck.
	Don't shit.
	Don't, no, dude.
	No.
	And he's like, ah.
	We get to the floor.
	I'm like, come on.
	I'm just trying to get him to his fucking room.
	Yeah.
	Close the door and like let him.
	He just needs to go to bed.
	Yeah.
	So I take his room key, fucking open it up, open, like push the door open.
	I'm like, okay, buddy.
	See you later.
	And he's like, he goes, come here.
	I'm like, I'm going to go.
	He's like, no, you come here.
	I go in and he now he's going to finish.
	He just starts shitting in the middle of the room.
	He bends down, picks it up, and starts painting the walls with his shit.
	I'm like, I'm like, I got to go, dude.
	And I fucking bailed.
	And I don't know what happened after that, but they don't show that part in the movie.
	Just like he had to shit.
	Dude.
	Yeah, but if you got a shit, dude, you got to find other ways to, you know.
	Like, bro, just wait till you get to the toilet.
	Yeah, that's the best way.
	Yeah, but he wanted to like, everybody.
	He was just on this like, I got an alpha.
	Yeah, fucking whatever.
	I'm an animal.
	I'm going to paint with my shit.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, everybody's fucking.
	I'm an animal.
	Yeah.
	Everybody's fucking Pablo shit Casso all of a sudden.
	That's wicked, dude.
	Dude, I got a piss.
	You do?
	Yeah.
	Go piss real quick.
	It's tough, man.
	It's kind of weird because sometimes you don't really pick who you love, I feel like.
	Like, you can have an idea of like, oh, I'm going to be in love with this, or this girl looks this way, or and that's how I'm attracted.
	But then sometimes it's like, you'll just kind of just be in love with something.
	You're like, oh, this is, I'm in love over here, you know?
	Yeah.
	Doesn't make any sense, you think?
	The first thing that comes to mind is like best friend shit.
	Like, you know, I think that, I think that has to happen before the love.
	I don't, for me, it's like, I don't know.
	Well, I think especially you learn that as you grow, as we get older, some of that stuff we learn as we grow, too.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I'd make choices before sometimes in my life.
	You'd be like, oh, this and this.
	But you have to have a best friend that you're like, all right, every now and then, like, all right, I'll fuck my best friend, you know.
	But if it's just a best friend, then after a while, you're like, oh, fuck.
	I just got to fucking get rid of this best friend so I can fuck a little.
	You know, I think so.
	It's like, you got to kind of find that middle ground, you know?
	I think, you know.
	Because you've been married a few times in your life.
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And what have you like, and now you're married now to a comedian?
	Yep.
	Brittany Ferlin, that's your wife.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	And she's always charming.
	She made this necklace for me too.
	Speaking of charms.
	Yeah.
	And this is Lil Marlborough.
	It's cool, man.
	It feels good.
	Yeah.
	She's fucking rad.
	She's funny.
	Yeah.
	She's, dude, like I got, my face hurts.
	You know, we're just, and that's the best friendship I'm talking about.
	Like, we've laughed all the fucking time because we're both silly.
	Yeah.
	We don't take everything so fucking seriously.
	And like, I don't know.
	We just have fucking fun, you know, and it's, that's a beautiful thing.
	What's the longest relationship that you've been in?
	Right now, I think it might be me and Brittany because we're just clocking in it over seven years.
	Jesus to be together.
	Yeah.
	And the longest time I was ever married was for seven years.
	So we're past that now, which is wild, man.
	I'm like, okay, this is definitely the third time's a charm here comes out.
	Silly line.
	And how many times have you been married?
	Fuck.
	Well, technically four, or sorry, technically three, but four times.
	The first one got annulled, so that doesn't count.
	And what does annulled mean what people just disagree or the ref says no or whatever?
	I guess kind of like the ref says no.
	We just weren't married long enough.
	It was like literally, I think maybe a couple weeks after getting married, it's like, this ain't working.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	And they should have a thing where a month later your friends get to send a ballot kind of and it's like something like that.
	Oh, so your friends can annul it too?
	Like, no, she ain't cool, man.
	She's got to go.
	She just took my best friend.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Because you know your friends, a lot of them go.
	Yeah, they disappear.
	Yeah, they just disappear.
	Once they get married.
	Yeah, well, you know.
	And if you get married to somebody they don't like.
	Yeah, and that.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	You know how that works.
	Have you ever been married?
	No, I've never been married.
	I wanna get married though.
	Do ya?
	I think my career started kind of blooming late in life kind of, or like later, you know?
	And so it's been like, It's just been hard.
	And it's tough to even tell girls.
	It's like, you know, right now, you know, like, or if there's something that starts to build and then I'm out of town and then I come back in town, I'm like, now where were we?
	And then, and then you meet, you know, and then you start to feel bad that people are like holding out hopes and you're the one who's kind of like, you don't want to keep somebody's hopes up.
	Fucking, it's like, fuck, I had too much.
	I know, and then you just feel like you're, well, you just feel like you're, I don't want to keep, like, you'll, you'll get kind of a little bit attached.
	You're like, yeah, this is going good.
	But then you're like, you're out of town.
	It's like, oh, well, I know I'm going to be out of town pretty much a lot for the next year.
	So I just have to tell you right now that this is just how things are.
	And if we don't both work pretty hard at this, then it's going to be tough.
	Yeah, dude.
	It's good.
	It's a reality.
	And love, I think there's love, like it's kind of a hands-on fucking thing, you know?
	Yeah, it's work.
	I mean, you have to nurture and it's a bonsai.
	It's like a, yeah, it's funny.
	Our therapist says that all the time.
	Like, all that work that you put on in on those trees, that same kind of work goes into your partner.
	Yeah, because, well, it's funny, even when you and Brittany came in today, it seems like, and I've seen you guys at the comedy clubs and stuff together.
	It really does seem like you guys enjoy being around each other, you know?
	Yeah.
	It seems funny.
	You guys are like, fucking, yeah, like kind of goofy.
	And she has a lot of energy.
	And it's kind of nice probably then, too, to like, because you've had so much energy in your life where it's like you don't have to always be the voltage, you know?
	Well perceived, dude.
	It's nice.
	Go crazy, baby.
	Go crazy.
	You're like, this is the part of me that's just, it's still there, but it's just fucking, it's had a lot of damage.
	You can entertain me, sure.
	Yeah, I had to outsource some of them.
	Like, I found a part of me that I really like in someone else, and that's really cool, you know?
	That's pretty, that's more of a neat way to say it.
	Yeah, it is cool, man.
	It is beautiful.
	That's awesome, dude.
	I think I finally got it right, dude.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Good.
	Actually, I know I got it right.
	Yeah.
	Cool.
	It's good.
	That's cool, man.
	Feels nice to say that.
	Did you ever get to meet Michael Landon before or no?
	No.
	Little house on the prairie guy?
	Yeah.
	No.
	He got all the ladies, bro, I heard.
	Yeah, he has a sick ass or did have a sick ass house in Malibu, like back in the cut, Malibu, like, I don't know what you call that area.
	Some gated.
	What about Michael Jackson?
	Do you ever get to meet him?
	I did.
	Really?
	One time, dude.
	Wow.
	At the MTV Awards.
	I was presenting.
	What was it?
	2007?
	No.
	Was it 7 or was it earlier than that?
	You've been to a bunch of them.
	Yeah.
	Man, the date's fuzzy.
	Dude.
	Yeah, I met him once, man, and I was so bugged out.
	The dates fuzzy.
	That should be the Tommy Lee, the title of your autobiography.
	What?
	The dates fuzzy.
	The dates fuzzy.
	Because it kind of pertains to just a timeline and dating and everything, you know?
	Yeah.
	But anyway, what am I fucking scripting your life?
	I'm not writing that shit.
	And the fact that I'm geographically challenged, I still don't know where the fuck, you know, like, like I was trying to tell somebody, like, where were you this week?
	And I was like, I was in Minot, like South Dakota, North Dakota.
	Fuck, I don't know.
	Like, like, I just, you know, I'll break down in tears at the airport sometimes just because I'm like, I don't know where I'm at.
	Because, you know, like if I travel alone, especially because I'm used to a fucking tour manager.
	Okay.
	We go here, we go there.
	And man, dude, I can't tell you, there's several times where I've been traveling alone where I'll just stop and grown man just start crying.
	Yeah.
	I don't know where I'm at.
	Fuck.
	Fuck.
	Where's the smoking lounge?
	It is true.
	I mean, part of having that much people around you and support and stuff, you turn into a little bit of a child that does an activity.
	Dude, that is it.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Get this fucking child to the stage, have him do his activity.
	Who's activity?
	And then he's going to ask, where's dinner?
	Dude, where do I sleep?
	I just learned how to send a fucking FedEx package a few years ago.
	I didn't know how to do it.
	I looked, what do you do?
	Does FedEx, where is FedEx?
	Do I take it there?
	Do they come get, like, how does it work?
	Yeah, do they know you want to send something?
	Like, how does this all fill in?
	Dude, just because everybody does everything for you for so long and through all those like kind of the fuck.
	And some of it, that's the way that some of that gets set up.
	It's not you necessarily outsourcing your life.
	It's that those things get put in place around you so you don't have to worry about that.
	You don't worry about anything because part of the business is you are the business.
	And so you have to be the business.
	Yes.
	You don't have to be the mailroom of the business.
	And that starts to fall on somebody else's shoulders.
	Yeah.
	It's not like you saying, oh, I'm not going to send my own mail.
	Yeah, no.
	It's just that's the way things work out.
	Yeah.
	Isn't that bizarre?
	And the whole time you don't learn anything, you're just like relearning things that I should have learned a long time ago.
	Oh, whoa, dude.
	Oh, I'm a late bloomer, dude.
	I'm like, I'm learning shit I should have learned at five or six years old.
	How to do proper handshakes.
	I mean, I remember, dude, I was such a late learner on so many things.
	I'm like, dear.
	Oh, fuck.
	Oh, yeah.
	It was just fucking nightmare.
	Have you and your wife taken a lot of trips?
	We have.
	She doesn't like to go on a lot of trips.
	So, but we have taken a lot.
	Is there a place you guys like to go?
	She's terrified of fucking going anywhere.
	She fucking has like, dude, I've scheduled or booked like just the most beautiful fucking spots, like winter fucking cabins on the lake, like, you know, and had to cancel them because there's no hospital within a couple hours.
	Yeah.
	You know, like, like that kind of shit, or like remote Bora Bora or like just beautiful places we've gone to, but some have had to cancel.
	Trying to get her to go anywhere is really difficult.
	But, you know, but we have.
	We have.
	Well, it's nice also if you're having a good time is to be at home, too.
	We're building a house right now and been working on it for fuck for three years.
	Oh, that's awesome.
	We've built a place that doesn't require vacations.
	Like, I'm making my house so fucking rad that I don't really need to go anywhere.
	Yeah.
	And for her, too, she doesn't, she's going to never have to go anywhere because she's going to be like, oh, this is fucking rad.
	Like, this is sick as shit ever.
	Yeah, where's the fucking shit?
	I'm on vacation.
	Yeah, that's sick.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's a neat idea.
	Hopefully I've fixed that problem for her, but because she doesn't dig traveling at all.
	Wow.
	It's kind of nice.
	It probably saves you some loot, too.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	Yeah, maybe.
	Do you guys keep animals at the house?
	Have you been an animal guy?
	Yeah, dude.
	I've been a dog guy for a long time.
	We got two wieners.
	How big is a wiener dog?
	Like little, a wiener, about this little.
	All right.
	10 inches off the camera.
	About this little, about that thick.
	And if you had to compare it to your actual wiener, who wins, you think?
	To an actual wiener?
	To your actual wiener.
	You're the guy with the wiener.
	The rest of us are just kind of milling around in the area.
	Right, right.
	You know what I'm saying?
	The rest of us are kind of fucking loitering, dude.
	You're the fucking fire truck, you know?
	We're the guy running with the pail of water.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So, oh, damn, now this shit is getting a little bit.
	That shit's beautiful, but that's getting a little crazy.
	That's teeny the weenie.
	And where was this at, dude?
	Was this at a PF Chang's, dude?
	Where is this?
	That's at my old house in Calabasas.
	Oh, that is pretty cute.
	Yeah, we must have just got her.
	Oh, yeah, you can tell.
	She's a little bit bigger now.
	I think you saw her earlier.
	Yeah.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	Very illegal, but also cute.
	Yeah.
	So fucking cute.
	Yeah, a little dog is nice.
	Did you ever own a parrot?
	Any other animals?
	We've had a couple birds.
	Haven't had great luck with birds.
	Yeah.
	Dude, one time, I went to Vietnam, right?
	And so you go there.
	I was a student and you get dropped off.
	And the taxis, whenever you show up there, the first place they take you, you could say anything.
	I want to go to this.
	I want to go to a museum.
	In Vietnam.
	Oh, you've been there?
	Yeah.
	So you go and you said the first thing I was a student and we were like, we want to go to this museum, whatever, this like something.
	But no matter where you say, they take you to hookers or whatever.
	You can say anywhere.
	When you go to McDonald's, they take you to fucking McPussy's, right?
	We got it.
	Yeah.
	So we fucking get out of this museum.
	It's one story and it's a pet shop.
	We're like, what the fuck is it?
	Everybody speaks Vietnamese, so you don't know what's going on.
	Walk inside, a couple birds, couple, I don't know if it's cats or whatever.
	It's like kind of vague.
	And then these ladies come out of the back and topless, right?
	So we're like, oh, what the fuck?
	Look at pet shop.
	Topless pet shop.
	We're like, damn, dude.
	Yeah, that beast on ate that lady's bra, you know?
	So next thing you know, we're in the back and they're trying to jerk everybody off and just get seed out of everybody.
	Jesus.
	And I got super nervous because they had us all in the same room.
	And I was like, I don't even speak at the language.
	I'm like looking at, they have a picture menu.
	I'm like kind of looking at that and trying to negotiate rates or whatever.
	Like, oh, yeah, dude.
	I will get 30% off some fucking tits if I can, right?
	So I'm like trying to see what the different options are.
	Anyway, I get really freaked out because one of my buddies starts getting a blowjob.
	It's just all right.
	It's just right there and it's crazy.
	You can hear the animals.
	Oh, dude.
	And it's just really crazy.
	And one of the parrots kept saying like pervy shit, you know, like fucking parrots.
	You know, we're like, come, come.
	Oh, no.
	Come, Papa.
	Oh, and so it was just like, what the fuck is it, man?
	But yeah, I've never really been a pet owner, I guess.
	That's kind of that's the closest thing I've really been a part of.
	Except I slept in bed with a girl one time with a great Dane.
	Oh, shit.
	Yeah, and she made it sleep right between us.
	And I was like, this feels kind of gay, dude.
	He was big, dude, in black.
	Yeah, they're fucking people-size.
	Yeah, dude.
	He was big.
	Like, he definitely played Juco ball somewhere.
	Like, this is fucking huge, you know?
	They take like horse-sized shits.
	Yeah, I'm not dealing with that.
	Giant.
	Yeah.
	No, dude, that ain't cool.
	What was the first pet you ever had?
	First pet was a monkey.
	My dad brought a monkey from Thailand.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	That's the first pet.
	And was it in a box or how'd y'all keep it?
	It was outside in a cage.
	He built the cage.
	He fucking just built everything.
	He built a cage and that's where he lived.
	But that's where he'd sleep at night.
	But he basically had little diapers on and would just fucking rip it around the house all day.
	And he'd party.
	Oh, dude.
	Wow.
	Party.
	Maybe that's where you learned some of it.
	Yeah.
	Fuck.
	Like, this thing can fucking rock.
	Yeah.
	So fun.
	So fun, man.
	And how did it pass away?
	It had a heat lamp outside, and we had a fucking, it got really, really cold.
	And we had a power outage.
	And the fucking heat lamp went off.
	And he fucking in the morning, he was dead.
	I think we had like, he froze to death.
	Like, I don't know.
	I don't know how he died, but we had like really shitty, cold, super cold weather.
	I think it actually even maybe snowed.
	What town was it in?
	In Covina.
	Oh, out here.
	Yeah.
	That's where I grew up.
	Wow.
	Damn, it's a bummer.
	Yeah.
	Dude, 99 out of 100 times, you'd think a monkey would survive a night in Covina.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's not like extreme here at all.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, my apartment is on the street where who was the guy from Jane's Addiction?
	The guy who wears the kind of the makeup, handsome guy.
	Dave Navarro?
	Yeah.
	Where his mom got murdered on the same street.
	Oh, shit.
	It was kind of crazy.
	Oh, whoa.
	That's where you lived at?
	I lived just down the street from there.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Oh, whoa, cool.
	Dude, who else?
	One time I went to Perry Farrell's house for a one-year-old's birthday.
	Somebody fucking invited.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	And it was just there.
	And I'm just walking around.
	And then there he shows up.
	It was just, you know, it's one of those nice houses.
	They'll let people, friends have their birthday party, kids' birthdays there.
	Uh-huh.
	I fucking relapsed at a one-year-old's birthday party, dude.
	Oh, my God.
	A one-year-old.
	What the fuck, dude?
	What?
	Hey, look, man.
	How does that even happen?
	God is good, dude.
	I don't know how it happens, but we just keep it moving.
	And it was what it was, man.
	Whoa.
	I didn't expect to.
	That's why I went.
	I was like, oh, I'm definitely, I'm going to go to a place I can't get in.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And then you have a couple wines or whatever, and then it's just bad.
	At a one-year-old birthday party.
	Dude, what up?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, it's cool.
	Yeah.
	That was my first concert.
	He's a fucking, he's a, he's a fucking great guy.
	Yeah, I really hear really interesting things about him.
	Kat Von D is close with him, and she speaks a lot about him.
	Yeah.
	You know, she mentions him a lot, you know?
	Yeah.
	He's a fucking, he's funny, man.
	Was there, um, oh, that's you and him.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, that's cool.
	He has a good sense of humor?
	Oh, yeah, dude.
	He's, he's fucking, he's definitely, he's a fucking tweaker.
	Yeah.
	He's actually.
	DYO blinds, huh?
	Yeah, yeah.
	He's fucking wild.
	He turned me on to some fucking, man, this crazy.
	We drank a fucking shitload of this absinthe in Europe.
	That was his thing, the absinthe, and like showed me, like, I don't know, just, I'd seen this shit called Green Fairy or whatever.
	It's green, but he had some other, some like other, I started hallucinating on the shit.
	If you drink enough of it, you start to slightly hallucinate.
	And it was purple colored.
	And it's an alcohol as well?
	Yeah, it's full-on alcohol.
	Strong as fuck.
	Yeah.
	And you drink the shit on fire, like you light the sugar cubes, and the sugar melts into the absinthe.
	Oh, shit.
	It's a whole like a ritual thing.
	Yeah, ritualistic.
	I like that.
	Yeah, it's dark.
	I could see him getting into some ritualistic shit.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Absinthe really make you hallucinate.
	Absinthe liqueur is a combination of spirits and herbs, mainly fennel, anise, and a type of wormwood called Artemisia absintheum.
	That's what it's named after.
	Van Gogh and Picasso were big fans of absinthe back in the day, along with other artists.
	Some believe that absinthe-induced hallucinations partly inspired some of their greatest works.
	Wow.
	Right?
	Do you look at bands nowadays?
	Because you guys fucking rock.
	You guys were almost like the industrial era.
	It's back when you actually had to actually make the fucking sounds, you know?
	Like now it's like you don't have to make the sounds anymore.
	The sounds are all programmed or whatever.
	You guys had to actually fucking go out there and make them, you know?
	Make them, record them.
	Yeah.
	Do you look at band?
	I mean, you look at NSA or like Rascal Flat, you're like, what the fuck is even going on here?
	Not them specifically, but do you ever look at modern band?
	You're like, this is.
	Yeah, I hear, I mean, yeah, I hear it all the time.
	Are you disappointed in how music has evolved or is just this is what it is?
	And it's like you're fortunate the time you got to be in?
	Do you ever get jealous of the time that people have?
	Like, you know, not that you're still not making a lot of music and that, but it's like you guys are still the ones.
	Let's go out there and fucking, you know.
	Yeah.
	You know what, dude?
	I guess the good thing is I'm such a fan of so many styles of music that I enjoy all of it.
	So whether you make it raw and live off the floor or make beats, you know, or play, you know, record in the box in the computer and edit.
	I've done it all different ways.
	So I really, I just like good music.
	I don't really care how it was made.
	So yeah, it doesn't really, it doesn't bug me, you know, like I don't go like, ah, that shit today sucks.
	Yeah.
	Because there's some really great stuff and yeah, there's some shitty stuff.
	Yeah.
	But I do like so many different styles.
	I'm kind of all over the place and probably not a good guy to ask that question to.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Are there things that you miss about the rise of things?
	Like how when things were starting, because sometimes you don't realize when things are popping like in the beginning that that's, that's the moment, you know?
	You know what I miss more than anything, dude?
	I miss the fucking mystery, man.
	I miss the, you know, like, like, there's people that I just, I absolutely just think the fucking world of.
	And it's guys like who are like, I think they're chameleons because they're just, they're always changing.
	Guys like Prince never did fucking interviews.
	You always wonder like, what'd that guy do?
	The mystique.
	I miss that.
	Now we're just like, we know everything about fucking everybody's lives, whether you want to or not.
	And there's just no like, there's no fucking mystery, man.
	And that's a big part, I think, of any art is the mystery of it.
	You know, like, what are they fucking, what does that motherfucker eat in the morning?
	Or like, what, you know, just like what?
	All the question marks are gone.
	And you don't see that in new music.
	There's no, you know, I'm not sitting here going like, fuck, I gotta, I gotta get down to Tower Records and wait fucking, you know, overnight for this record to drop.
	That just, God, oh, that was so true.
	It was like, well, even looking back on those magazines and stuff, like, that's how we knew little pieces of shit.
	That's how you knew.
	It was like Sebastian Bach's head was fucking bleeding.
	You had no idea why.
	You don't know where the picture was.
	And they told you too blurry.
	But you're like, fuck, dude.
	And it's a still picture.
	It's not a video documentary on the whole thing.
	Fuck, dude, we got to see him when he comes here.
	We're like, what is going on?
	And then you start making shit up in your head.
	And that's where.
	That's where creation came from.
	That's where creativity came from.
	Yes.
	You came up with how it may have happened.
	Dude, in waiting outside to get tickets to something, dude, whether like it was to go see the crew, whether it was to go see Guns N' Roses, Dio, lock up the wolves, like whether it was to go see fucking 311.
	Like you'd have to wait out all night, right?
	And thankfully, some kid would bring like his 11-year-old brother and people would get him fucked up for the first time in the parking lot.
	Yeah.
	You'd just be watching this fucking like little fat kid fucking like take off his shirt and fucking eat bugs and shit.
	Oh my God.
	That would get you from two to four and then somebody would go to the donut place and then it would be six and hold the line to nine.
	Yes.
	Hold the line, dude.
	And there was still only five people out there and it'd have been fine if you came at 9 a.m.
	But nah, motherfucker.
	We waited all night for tickets.
	That was something to be said.
	It was like a badge of honor.
	Yes.
	And you didn't know what happened.
	Like even when I saw Manton and Twiggy Ramirez, I think one of them he cut the other guy's stomach open with a bottle.
	The ambulances came, took the guy out of there.
	What just happened?
	Dude, yeah, I remember being in the bathroom.
	I was like 14 years old.
	Some guy goes, how old are these kids in here?
	And somebody goes, I don't know.
	They look like they're about 14. And somebody's like, somebody's going to touch them tonight.
	Somebody said that.
	And we'd never even heard that before.
	Like, what is going on?
	But they took whoever he cut with the bot.
	And we had no idea what happened.
	It's just your imagination.
	Like, where the fuck is he?
	You know?
	Yes, dude.
	I missed that.
	Yeah.
	I missed that, man.
	I missed it as a possibility kind of thing.
	And the other thing, along with the mystery, is I wish there was less because there's so much.
	Dude, I'm a fucking musician.
	I'm in this business.
	And if I can't keep up, how the fuck is just a fan who's not a musician or just like a fan of music keep up if I can't?
	Dude, there's so much fucking music.
	Fucking, dude, there is so much fucking music.
	It is insane.
	Your neck would snap off.
	And it's just like, how do, and I feel bad for like, for, for, for young people, like, how do they find music?
	It's just, it's, it's too much, dude.
	There's not, yeah, there's no place to, to, I mean, I guess that must, maybe, maybe it's the opposite.
	Maybe there's the thrill of that hunt of trying to find something in the barrage that you're like, dude, I found this out there.
	Yeah.
	You know, maybe, maybe it's, maybe it's reverse and I shouldn't feel bad for people, but that's, I, there's too, there's too much, dude.
	Too much.
	Too much.
	Did you, um, was there a band that you loved that fell off or that had a singer pass away?
	Was there anything that was something in your time that a group that you really missed?
	Oh, fuck, man.
	A few.
	Fuck.
	Nirvana.
	Oh, yeah.
	Did you guys know them or not?
	Didn't know them as Nirvana.
	Just knew the music?
	Just knew the music, yeah.
	And later become friends with Dave Grawl and stuff like that.
	Oh, yeah.
	I just read his book recently.
	But yeah.
	And fucking Soundgarden.
	Yeah.
	Fuck, there's been so many.
	They were a real big influence on me.
	Fuck.
	Soundgarden.
	Allison Chains.
	Dude, there's been so many great fucking...
	Oh, man.
	Yeah, that was good.
	Dude, that was good.
	Yeah, bro.
	When those things came on, when that shit happened, there was something about it being real.
	And it was just like, there was a part of you that started a fucking part.
	ACDC, Bond Scott, there's another fucking great one.
	Like, dude, nobody sounds like that guy.
	Uh-uh.
	So, yes.
	There's been a lot.
	I've seen.
	Yeah.
	Fuck yeah.
	God, dude.
	Bro, this dude in our neighborhood, this dude Eddie, he got a 5.0 fucking Mustang, right?
	And I remember he put two of the most busted chicks who were also the best looking girls in our neighborhood in it.
	Yeah.
	He made them sit on the back, right?
	Like open.
	He'd sit on the back trunk, but with their legs inside, right?
	And he would kind of just drive around town like it was a parade, you know?
	No.
	Just because somebody finally had a car and somebody finally had two chicks in it, right?
	People in our neighborhood were like, fuck yeah.
	Yeah, bro.
	You've all got a chance, dude, right?
	And he bought them both daiquiris one time, these girls.
	Oh, God bless them.
	And he came over and he was just kind of fucking chilling in the street.
	And then he played back in black and he fucking floored it and both of them fucking tumbled right out of the fucking back.
	Yeah, dude.
	Dude.
	And I think he left town.
	He was so ashamed.
	Just like the fucking amount of shame that people would have for shit.
	Oh.
	God, that was fucking awesome, dude.
	That is, that sounds awesome.
	Yeah, when the closest you could get to rock and roll is just some kid in the street was just throwing a fucking rock against a stop sign and hearing that fucking ping, you know?
	Yes.
	Fucking the doors are rattling because the kids got fucking like, you know, 318s and a ping stronger.
	Some rock trick five skates or whatever, and that bitch is just, yeah, the whole calves are just fucking falling.
	The lights are breaking.
	Some brand new car gets two blocks.
	He gets pulled over for fucking not having everything.
	Oh, man.
	It was quite a time, man.
	It was the best time.
	Yeah, dude.
	You know what?
	That's That statement right there, that's one of the fucking coolest things ever.
	When people watch the dirt, that's one of the big, the biggest things I hear from people.
	They're like, from the younger kids, they're like, man, is that what it was fucking like?
	Like, all this shit's real, right?
	Like, yes.
	And I'm like, they'll never know.
	And that's what they say.
	They're like, we can't even imagine that.
	Like, you can't do any of that stuff anymore.
	Like, you guys just fucking, that part, it's a nice thing to hear, but it also bones me out because that was at a time where anything fucking goes, dude.
	Anything goes.
	There's no Instagram or like people with cell phones taking pictures and like ratting you out.
	Anything goes, dude.
	And the moment had so much value because it was all you had.
	Yes.
	You weren't going to be able to relive it later.
	Like maybe you'd get a still image, but the fucking moment.
	Dude.
	Now the moment sometimes it's just like, even the moments, like I'm fucking give up.
	You know, it's like I can't compete with the repetition of me that there is out there.
	That's what I feel like so many times.
	Yeah, dude.
	And even storytellers had more value because you had to tell the story, dude.
	The best thing was I'd go somewhere, nothing would happen.
	I'd go to school the next day and everything had happened.
	Yes.
	And it was like, yeah, dude.
	Dude, the moment, bro.
	Yeah.
	It was so cool.
	Right?
	Right?
	But I guess we just got to keep making those moments.
	Yeah.
	We got to do our best, you know?
	And you do it by having a new, taking on a new marriage.
	That's seven years.
	That's congratulations, man.
	That's amazing.
	Oh, thanks, buddy.
	And building a new house.
	Yes.
	And keep trimming our trees down to keep the shit, what we want that's important to us, like our sons and our music, and keeping alive all the fucking stories as much as we can, you know, by sitting and talking with people about them.
	Yes.
	Thank you so much, Tommy.
	I appreciate it, man.
	It's nice to get to know you.
	And thank you for fucking just making me fucking angry at everybody in my fucking neighborhood, dude.
	In a fucking awesome way, dude.
	Dude, I would sing girls and then jerk off.
	And I'd be like, I feel like it was on a date, you know?
	Like, it was just fucking awesome, dude.
	We heard girls and we're like, we're going to get girls, dude.
	We never got girls, bro.
	But we fucking sang that shit, dude.
	Dude, I fucking love you, man.
	God, it was fucking good.
	Thank you for having me.
	And I look forward to our friendship, man.
	Thanks, man.
	Y'all want to come and see the trees, man.
	Yeah, for sure, dude.
	For sure.
	And I love your wife makes me laugh so much.
	Her and Britney Schmidt have a podcast.
	Bring it up right now.
	I just want to see it real quick.
	So I have to have them come on sometime.
	Oh, you're having them come over here?
	Yeah, sometime.
	Yeah, dude.
	And when we'll get a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of fucking white bitches in here.
	All right.
	And I'm talking about Britney Schmidt.
	I'm not talking about your wife.
	This is the worst podcast with Britney Furlin and Britney Schmidt.
	So, Tommy Lee, thank you for everything, dude.
	Yeah, bro.
	I hope you stay alive for absolutely ever.
	Fuck yeah.
	Fuck you.
	Likewise.
	I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
	I must be cornerstone.
	Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this piece of mind I found.
	I can feel it in my bones.

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