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Dec. 29, 2021 - This Past Weekend - Theo Von

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E373 Tony Hawk & Jason Ellis

Tony Hawk is one of the most influential skateboarders of all time, an entrepreneur, and founder of the Tony Hawk Foundation. Jason Ellis is an Australian professional skateboarder, mixed martial artist, auto racer, and radio personality. Check out their new podcast Hawk vs Wolf: https://www.youtube.com/c/HawkvsWolf Tony Hawk and Jason Ellis join the show to talk about all things skateboarding, superstitions, stalkers, and their new podcast, Hawk vs Wolf. Find Tony Hawk IG: https://www.instagram.com/tonyhawk/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/TonyHawk Find Jason Ellis IG: https://www.instagram.com/wolfmate/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/ellismania -------------------------------------------------- New Merch: https://theovonstore.com Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour Podcastville mugs and prints available now at https://theovon.pixels.com -------------------------------------------------- Support our Sponsors: BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/THEO for 10% off your first month Truebill: https://truebill.com/THEO Don’t fall for subscription scams. Start cancelling today. Mint Mobile: https://mintmobile.com/THEO Buy any 3 month plan and get 3 months more FREE Peloton: https://onepeloton.com Try the Peloton app free for 2 months Liquid Death: https://liquiddeath.com -------------------------------------------------- Music: "Shine" - Bishop Gunn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3A_coTcUek -------------------------------------------------- Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: tpwproducer@gmail.com Hit the Hotline: 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: www.theovon.com/fan-upload Send mail to: This Past Weekend 525 Royal Pkwy PO Box 292634 Nashville, TN 37229 -------------------------------------------------- Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips -------------------------------------------------- Producer: Colin https://instagram.com/colin_reiner Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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	Today's guests are a real tandem, a real duet, if you will.
	They are one-of-a-kind men in their own right, and they have joined forces.
	From their new podcast, Hawk vs.
	Wolf, they are the greatest skateboarder of all time, Mr. Tony Hawk, and one of the most multifaceted men of all time, Mr. Jason Ellis.
	Grateful to have them here today.
	For me to set that parking brake and let myself unwind.
	Shine that light on me.
	I'll sit and tell you my stories.
	Shine on me.
	And I will find a song I will sing it just for you.
	And I'll be moving.
	You got to do some of those Mexican shows, man.
	The Mexican shows, like, what's that show with those four people, Colin?
	Out in the valley somewhere.
	It's like two Mexican kids and a Chinese person.
	You know what I'm talking about and a Vietnamese person?
	They speak English, though, right?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Everybody speaks English.
	It's good.
	It's like something.
	I literally did a Mexican game show.
	There you go.
	It was pretty insane.
	Oh, there you go, dude.
	They're speaking Spanish in that, right?
	But the whole country's a game, so you got to jump over a wall to even get there.
	But it was like this giant thing that you had to throw these balls down.
	They bounced, and they were hitting the audience and stuff.
	What?
	It was crazy.
	Man, I want to do that.
	Why don't they do that here?
	I want to throw giant balls at people.
	It's because of the different legislation, I think.
	Like certain countries, you can, I mean, the rules are definitely different on who can die.
	And here, the only person that had giant vert ramp is some pro dude that's got all the insurance and shit.
	Rich guys.
	Sorry.
	I didn't mean to point at you, dude.
	And you might not have any money anymore.
	I don't know.
	But there was a time.
	I might have to sell my ramp for scraps soon.
	And wouldn't it be crazy?
	We walk up on him in winter and he's like making firewood out of his last ramp, you know, to stay warm.
	That'd be a really sad day.
	Nah, thanks here to stay.
	Oh, good.
	I'm glad, man.
	Yeah, thank you guys for coming in, man.
	I appreciate it, dude.
	It's good to see you again.
	Good to see you.
	And thank you for, you know, whenever I was just really kind of catching a break in comedy, you brought me on your series so a couple times.
	Oh, really?
	That was what that – I didn't realize you hadn't already – I didn't think I had a – I told you and was like, holy shit, this guy is the funniest guy I've ever heard on radio.
	That's how long ago it was.
	And I was like, get him on my show.
	And then sure enough, he just, you know, I'm like, he didn't know it yet, but he's like an amazing, you know, I was like, you could fucking take over anything.
	Are you saying you gave him his big break?
	No, not at all.
	I'm saying he was already.
	You're kind of saying that.
	He helped Hammer the crack, I think.
	Everybody already knew, though.
	I don't think I was like, let me show you fucking Theo Von, everybody.
	Like, did you on the ONA show?
	It wasn't, it wasn't, you weren't.
	Well, it was just Opie at that point.
	Oh, sorry.
	Your show had a big...
	Like you and Simon Rex kind of did it at the same time.
	And that was, I think, really helpful.
	Fuck it.
	So thanks, man.
	I appreciate it.
	I've never really kind of thanked you for that.
	Wow.
	Amazing.
	What's going on?
	So you guys are up to this shit now, huh?
	We started at SiriXM in 2000.
	Yeah, before my show.
	That's how I got on.
	Before, yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	He got me on.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And then we were doing that for a while, and then he went off to somewhat greener pastures and started being the voice of the channel we were on for the most part.
	And then I kept doing the podcast, and then I was just kind of getting buried in there.
	What do you think you were missing when he wasn't there?
	Was there something that you felt like you were missing?
	Yeah, definitely an edgier comedy, I would say, I guess.
	Which wasn't good at the time.
	It was pretty raw.
	And I had a lot of kids listening because it was very much still skating and we were doing video games and they wanted to hear about that and play music.
	And then this guy would bring on him.
	Yeah, that's a crazy uncle.
	That's a crazy uncle.
	I mean, pretty much.
	He's definitely.
	And he was like the work release uncle.
	Very unfiltered, but it was hilarious.
	But then, like I said, it just kind of fizzled out.
	And then he started podcasting.
	And I hit him up.
	I said, maybe we should try something.
	And so we started trying it.
	And it kind of clicked.
	And it's been fun.
	Yeah, it feels fun.
	It feels fun to watch you guys.
	I try to think when I watch, I feel like, yeah, I feel like you guys have a comfort level with each other.
	There's a real earnestness that comes out of you a lot that I think creates this, makes you kind of be the same way.
	I don't know.
	I haven't watched a ton, but from what I've seen, it seems like a new little, not like a marriage, but like a new little like, okay, it's springtime at the house.
	He did give me a key of the ramp the other day, and I thought it was just as good as an engagement ring to me.
	I think it's pretty special what's happening for sure.
	To a skate ramp?
	To my ramp?
	Okay, so is it like that?
	You said only rich guys have their own ramps.
	Yeah.
	It's a total rich guy ramp.
	And it also has a lock out front of it.
	That definitely.
	It's in a warehouse.
	Oh, it is?
	Although someone broke in the other night, stole some camera gear.
	Oh, I thought they just skated.
	No, skating?
	I know.
	I was kind of hoping that, too.
	Hey, what are you doing?
	Well, you gave Ellis a key.
	He didn't give me one.
	Somebody broke in here, too, actually.
	Stole cameras, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	It must be that time of year.
	Maybe the holidays people are looking to give cameras out or something.
	Well, they were going around the building trying to get into different doors and finally got into the door that just happened to be by a camera that was set up.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's a game show for criminals, I feel like.
	They just walk into a building and it's like, yeah, if he had gotten the other door open, he would have had a piece of the loop.
	Ooh.
	The loop ramp is all set up over there.
	So that would have been hard.
	That would have been hard to steal on a whim.
	I was going to say, and what would you do?
	Like, if Theo stole the loop, what would you do with the loop?
	I've gotten hurt on nothing.
	What would be the first thing that you would do with the loop?
	I'd probably take it to Canada or Australia where people would freaking mount the somebody over there.
	You could sell it for big money over there, I think.
	But how do you, I mean, how do you get it there?
	Yeah.
	Shipping, I don't know.
	Canada, maybe you could drive it through in a truck.
	Yeah.
	But Australia, no.
	Got Hawks Loop.
	Imagine trying to get just get rid of it.
	Yeah.
	Watch what I'm saying.
	Hey, kid, you want a loop?
	Yeah, like, hey, kid, you want to die?
	I got the device.
	Just set this thing up and go down that roll and you'll be dead in a minute.
	Like, no problem.
	Yeah, bro.
	This path has fentanyl in it.
	The suicide loop.
	The loop just takes people out.
	I mean, I did it, and it was one of the most painful, terrifying experiences of my skateboard career.
	Really?
	It was hard work for sure.
	Some people get it a little easier, but I was already on my way out doing radio and not skateboarding all the time.
	And he was like, we're setting up the loop.
	And I was like, well, fuck, if you're calling me, it's a prestige, you know, to do the loop.
	I think only like 10 people had done it.
	And I was like, well, this is an opportunity for me to.
	And all Americans, all whites, all women, who was it?
	Who all had done it?
	You want the demographics?
	I'm not judging.
	I don't care.
	I've never been asked that question.
	Am I the first gay guy?
	I'm the only guy.
	I believe so.
	Oh, yeah.
	There you go.
	And then Daisy, Lizzie Armanto.
	What?
	Lizzie Armanto was the first female.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	And then Felipe Nunez did it with no legs.
	He has no legs.
	It's changed a little bit, though, don't you think?
	I think it's a good thing.
	No, it was so hard for us to get the speed for him.
	We had to build an extension on the starting ramp for him.
	Look at it.
	Is that it?
	The actual.
	See, it's pretty gnarly, dude.
	Like, when you get on the gnarly, this is Tom Shar got broke off here.
	It's like being in the dryer for a really couple seconds.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But you can't lose where you are.
	If you do that, you're dead.
	What do you look at when you go into the line?
	The line.
	Oh, look at the line.
	He's got a line in the middle of it.
	And you follow the line because, especially if you've got skateboarding in your background, when you get to the upside down part, you want to look back because that's what you usually do.
	You're going back.
	You're usually turning around.
	Oh, yeah.
	So you got to not look back and keep looking at this line and it just doesn't seem right.
	So you want to do that little lean and then that makes you do this twisty thing and you eat shit.
	Well, I'm just trying to say because I never, now it's a lot more diverse.
	When I was young, it was like white dudes who had been, who were about to fight their stepfather were the ones who were skateboarding.
	Yeah, I hated those guys.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I got, that's how, that's how I became.
	Are you talking about Jason?
	Okay, maybe.
	I grew up with those guys.
	I had to like, you know, I got approval after many years of hard work and, you know, humiliation.
	And, and, you know, they just, they destroy you and call you a pile of shit and throw your board in the trash.
	One time I made checkers.
	I told this story, but I made checkers inside checkers with the grip tape on the board.
	So it took like a couple days.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm in a lot of school doing that.
	It had to be perfect.
	And I'm not very good with art and shit.
	I got big dumb hands.
	So it took forever.
	So I got checkers and checkers on this board.
	And I show up like fucking Christian Osori board with checkers and checkers.
	I'm like, get the, I'm the fucking sickest dude out here.
	And I get on the ramp and this dude that's now my friend, Sack Reynolds, he goes, what the fuck is that shit?
	And just grabs it off me and throws it in the trash can.
	But I just grabbed it out of the trash can and kept skating because that's how it goes.
	It happened all the time.
	Yeah.
	And now they're nice to me.
	Well, only took like 30 years.
	Now it's like, man, how's it looking good in the States, Jason?
	Send us a t-shirt.
	I'm like, I'm not sending you shit.
	Jason, get stuffed.
	We had, I'm trying to think if we had a lot of skateboarding area.
	We had one dude jumped off the Shonys one time on a board and hit.
	What's a Shoni?
	It's a Shoni's.
	It's like a place where you get food.
	It's like a Denny's.
	Yeah, it's like a Denny's, but it's Yeah, he came down off the roof, yeah.
	But he hit a Buick LeSaber.
	And can you pull up a LeSaber, Daddy?
	Wait, while it was moving?
	No, no, no.
	Still a saber.
	Oh, yeah.
	Wait, he didn't see it properly?
	I think he didn't plan ahead, really.
	Yeah, I think some people think when you're going off a roof, you're going to be able to jump, but I think the angle you're going to eliminates that.
	He hit a maroon one, too.
	That's a good look.
	Yeah, not a bad...
	I mean, it was a cool...
	Like, your neck's already kind of in different pieces, I feel like.
	So it's like to shat, you know, but they said he shattered his neck, but he wore a neck brace forever after that.
	It's an interesting theory on your neck.
	Unshatterable?
	Yeah, that they don't shatter because there's pieces in there.
	Yeah.
	That's an interesting theory, is all I'm saying.
	They're already perforated.
	Yeah.
	I mean, we're not doctors on this side of the table, but what the fuck, man.
	You can shatter.
	You can shatter pretty much anything.
	It doesn't seem like I speak from experience.
	Shattering seems like a hard word to use for the neck.
	What is something that most people, what's the first thing most people break doing skateboarding?
	Ankle wrist.
	Yeah.
	Whipping off, put your hand on.
	It's so scary.
	Wheeled things have always super, super scared me.
	I don't even like being in a car if it's in neutral and it's off.
	Like, I don't do well on anything that has like loose, just like has the ability to be loose under it, you know?
	You don't know if it's a matter of time.
	Your commits is just going to take off?
	I think I just don't trust anything.
	Gravity?
	Just me in between me and the earth.
	I probably don't even trust gravity.
	I'm very non-committal.
	What about this right here?
	This is a fellow sent something in.
	Is this decent?
	What's up, Theo?
	Jason and Tony.
	It's Louis here from Australia.
	Razorblades, baby.
	Just want to know what you know is razor blades?
	What's razor blades?
	Oh, razor blades is if you say rise, rise up lights real fast.
	Rise up lights.
	It sounds like razor blades in Australian.
	Okay.
	Rise up lights.
	Razor blades.
	No.
	Rise up lights.
	Yeah, but I'm saying the Australian thing.
	I see what you say to it.
	Yeah.
	You do Razor Blades and I'll do go.
	Rise up lights.
	Razor blades.
	Rise up lights.
	Razor blades.
	Rise up lades.
	Razor blades?
	Raise up lights.
	Let's just keep doing that and then that's the podcast.
	Razor blades?
	Razor blades.
	Rise up lights.
	Sick, mate.
	Yeah.
	Sick.
	Anyway, so obviously.
	Theo, Jason and Tony, Louis here from Australia.
	Razorblades, baby.
	Just want to know what you boys are.
	Tony and Jason, what's the gnarliest injury you guys have seen in skateboarding, whether it be professional or just down at the skate park or on the ramp?
	Anyway, cheers, fellas.
	Gang gang, baby.
	Cheers, baby.
	That guy's from another country.
	That happens sometimes.
	Well, I guess now with all the new rules.
	Have people died?
	Well, people have died, yes.
	And I'm not barren.
	I have not been witness to that.
	No.
	Thankfully.
	But the worst I had was a broken pelvis.
	And I fractured my skull and broke my thumb all at the same time.
	So you're going to do it big, right?
	Fuck, you're half a mummy at that point.
	But I was knocked out, so it wasn't like I was witnessing all this.
	It makes it easier, right?
	Yeah, a little bit.
	But I want to say, like, the worst injury to it.
	I saw a dude break his arm here, and then his arm was just dangling and like dangling behind him.
	It was pretty cool.
	Like it was just flopping around.
	That was pretty heavy.
	I fractured my wrist.
	I broke my wrist and I popped my elbow out of the back of my arm.
	It's like compound fracture when I was 16. And I was about to get on a plane to go back to Melbourne.
	And I was like, we'll just skate the skate park near the airport.
	And then I fell.
	And that thing came out.
	It was good that I was young because I just went into shock.
	And then they give you a whistle in Australia.
	You suck on a whistle?
	For what if you need help?
	Nah, it's got heroin in it.
	Nah.
	Yeah.
	What?
	Yeah, well, whatever.
	It's got whatever.
	Morphine or whatever.
	Oh, boy.
	It's got the juice in it, you know?
	And he's like, suck on the whistle.
	And then you realize when you suck on it that it's got heroin in it.
	And then you suck that fucker.
	Yeah.
	And then they take the whistle off.
	You're like, nah, give me the whistle back.
	I'd be crossing guard in a half hour, though.
	I'd fucking just be bringing a fucking Lord across the street, son.
	Whistles are good.
	Yeah, that's insane.
	I had that dope whistle over there, man.
	Yeah, I've never heard of that.
	That's the thing.
	I think it seems like you guys' dynamic is that you're going to somehow, it would seem like you would know so much, but you're going to learn a lot from them.
	Oh, yeah.
	I don't know if it's good or not.
	No, I've got to filter which parts.
	Yeah, it's always enlightening, and it's always entertaining.
	Yeah, and we try to keep it family-ish friendly.
	Yeah.
	I go to Jason Ellis show to get real close to family.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	There's been a couple times where his stories would cross over, where it's like, wait, okay, yeah, maybe we have to.
	You would understand, like, every now and then at a certain place where it might not be super appropriate to go deep into your own head because you're pretty gross, you know?
	Yeah, I mean, I've been involved in some stuff that's probably not, you know, stuff you would talk about with someone's mom or something if you just met their mom.
	Sure.
	Right, so I feel like we all have.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	But that's more his brand.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	He definitely.
	My penis is involved in a lot.
	Yeah.
	So I keep that out of the hawk versus wolf.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it almost seems like your penis is like you're its parole officer.
	That's what it sounds like a lot of times.
	No, I do argue with it a lot.
	Sometimes it feels like it's missed a court date or two.
	It kind of seems like.
	He's in trouble.
	He's in trouble right now, actually.
	Jason, I know that you love MMA and skateboarding.
	I know that that's part of your past and fighting is something you just love to do, you know, competition.
	Was there ever a skateboarder or somebody like a ramp man or something that you wouldn't want to tangle with?
	Or that was like somebody who was like a real badass?
	That was like, what's this dude doing?
	Skating?
	This guy should be fighting?
	I never wanted to fight.
	I don't like fighting.
	I don't like the argument where people are heated.
	I'm not into that at all.
	I've never been into that.
	Like, if I have to defend myself because I've been in bad situations, so instinctually, if you're going to corner me, then I'm going to go because I know what the other side of that is.
	like if you don't defend yourself, you just get shit kicked, and I'm not going to let that happen ever again.
	Yeah, so there's that, but I don't like the fight-fight thing.
	And in skateboarding, people are either really short or maybe tall and skinny, but it's not a good thing, it doesn't help to be kind of bulky.
	So it's kind of like comedy.
	All right, you know, with the holidays, I find sometimes I get discouraged.
	And I'll, you know, some people even feel depressed during the holidays and, you know, because there's so much cheer in the air and they maybe feel, well, I'm not having any cheer.
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	Bulky, you don't see a lot of bulky comics.
	The only real one is Joe Rogan.
	But he's a bit short.
	Yeah, that's a good point.
	He's a bit short.
	Because in skateboarding, you can be a bit bulky and be his height.
	If you're like six foot and bulky, skateboards barely hold me.
	Like the tail flexes out.
	If I get a little too thick, I can't go high.
	I mean, you can't really get a fluid style either if you were bigger and bulkier.
	It would feel more forced and romantic.
	There was one other guy, Tom Boyle.
	Ooh, what happened to him?
	He passed away recently, actually.
	Oh, everybody's dying.
	I know, but he was an amazing skateboarder.
	He was like, he was pretty thick, dude.
	Yeah, I guess.
	Jamie Foy is like breaking all the rules.
	Who's that?
	Jamie Foy Street Skater.
	Oh, who's that?
	He's bigger, and he's one of the best.
	Jamie Foy, bring him up, brother?
	F-O-I-E, Foy?
	F-O-Y.
	Oh.
	He's amazing.
	You see him, you're just like, that's not a typical skater.
	Who's that greyhound out there?
	Who's that thick daddy that's out there?
	They got any big dogs that get out on the board?
	There was a guy that tried to drop in my ramp.
	You can see that.
	If you want to see something heavy, literally heavy.
	Oh, here's Jamie Foy.
	Jamie Foy is insane.
	He's seriously like, he's one of the best skaters right now.
	This guy?
	Yeah.
	He's not jacked?
	No, no, he doesn't say jacked.
	Just bigger.
	He's a bigger dude.
	There we go.
	Oh, yeah.
	He's a little thick, huh?
	Look at that.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, he got.
	He's slanging bridges.
	Skateboarding, I know for a fact, if you're bigger, it's the fall that's harder.
	Yeah, here they come, the harder they fall.
	I'd be good at skateboarding.
	If I wasn't such a pussy dude, I'd be good at it, I bet.
	You got hand-feet coordination?
	I think I would have really, if I could have really focused on it, it seems like it takes a lot of real focus in a strange way.
	I don't know what's the best element to be a skateboarder.
	Like, what is the thing?
	Never giving up.
	Really?
	Yeah, because you've got to do it over and over again.
	Sometimes it seems impossible, but if you go enough, all of a sudden you can.
	But there's so many different elements too that you could be good at.
	So you can kind of focus in on, well, I'm really good at doing these types of flip tricks and getting them into grinds and stuff.
	And that can just be your whole brand.
	And then other people are like, they just fly.
	They fly out of ramps.
	And that's their thing.
	And everyone loves to see them fly.
	And that's good enough.
	Some people have a little bit of all of it, but then some are like highly, you know, if you look at Niger Houston, just precision, technical, like beyond any Olympian.
	He looks like a video game.
	Yeah, the stuff that's going on.
	It's like the board when it's not within him.
	He's still with him.
	Oh, wow, yeah.
	Sometimes you see people like that that start to change the way that things are done.
	Like Patrick Mahomes kind of changes the quarterback position.
	You're like, oh, I didn't think that this could even be played differently.
	And then it seems like he just plays the game differently or at a speed that looks totally new for some reason, whether it's faster or slower than what's been done.
	What about that thick dog?
	Who is the big dog?
	He's known as Big Boy.
	Literally Big Boy.
	And he used to be a skater.
	He grew up skating in Orange County.
	And he was making waves because he does a lot of weightlifting stuff.
	He's big, dude.
	He's like 50. He's 60 yards.
	Crazy, like five people.
	He looks like five people.
	But he started to rekindle.
	Like if you have a big jumpsuit, you know what I mean?
	You got five guys and just put one head at the top of it.
	That's what he looks like.
	But he started to rekindle his competing corporate meeting.
	In a pajama suit.
	He had a clip that went viral doing a kickflip or something or an Ollie and everyone was just like, dude, I was like, you know, and you could tell that he already had the skate skills, but he's gotten big.
	And then he re so then he started to hit me up like, man, I want to drop in on your ramp.
	And I was like, yeah, you might want to work your way up to it.
	Yeah.
	Because everything that I saw him riding was maybe four to five feet.
	My ramp's 14 feet.
	But you let him in?
	Yep.
	It's on his.
	Yeah.
	And he came in hot.
	He was not going to take the time to figure it out.
	He just wanted to go.
	Yeah, boy.
	When you thick, I think life's short.
	You find out you got to go quick.
	Interesting.
	Just look up Tony Hawk, big boy.
	You got him?
	Let's see him.
	Oh, damn, huh?
	Yeah, dude.
	Is that tattooed?
	Did somebody graffiti on him?
	That dude is humongous, dog.
	He had a nap and somebody graffited him.
	Yeah, what if somebody just tagged him up?
	Yeah, there you go.
	He fell asleep in Arizona for an hour.
	So watch him.
	He would not hesitate or take direction.
	He just said, I'm going.
	I'm committing.
	What?
	Oh, what?
	That was awesome.
	That was a tease.
	That's how they do it.
	Wow.
	They did a great job.
	You too, man.
	Oh.
	I feel taking a vengeance.
	I almost feel like it.
	We fell for it.
	So this is his warm-up.
	That ramp's about six feet.
	Not a good idea.
	And I kept telling him, like, you got to bend your knees more because you straighten his legs too much.
	Yeah.
	He looks like the singer on a cruise line, kind of.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, he looks like somebody who's waiting bar on a cruise.
	And so when he got to the top of the vert ramp, I said, all right, you just got to bend your knees, you know, connect to the wall first.
	And he's like, all right, so just commit.
	I said, that's not what I said at all.
	Oh, yes, dude.
	Oh, damn, boy.
	He's not going hard.
	Oh, yeah, but it's fun to watch, though.
	That's Ryan Sheckler helping him out.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	There we go.
	Get everybody there.
	Oh, damn.
	Is it okay to laugh and y'all see?
	Oh, yeah.
	No, he's not.
	Oh, yeah, dude.
	Wow, bro.
	I like how many Tom's.
	Because you thought he's knocked out, right?
	Yeah.
	I mean, that's what it looks like.
	That's usually when people get knocked out.
	A lot of times they go stick.
	And so I thought that was it, but he made some crazy sounds.
	That was brave.
	He's got that gingerbread bill.
	He built like that little gingerbread man.
	You know, he looks like a gingerbread man that just got out of San Quentin.
	But he was super cool about it.
	And he's still hit me up since then.
	Like, yo, man, I want to come back for it.
	So is that like your, it's almost like that's your vagina, like if somebody drops in on your ramp?
	Is it kind of have that sort of feel to it?
	Like, is it like all dudes trying to get in there after that?
	It sounds like, you know what I'm saying?
	He's the only guy.
	Like nobody.
	I would come down every time if you were like, hey, I got like five guys that are all trying to come down, jump in today.
	It's not.
	I'll be there in a minute.
	Nobody takes it.
	I mean, there are a handful of people that come and that's their directive and for whatever reason I'll let them go.
	But it's more that people want to come and skate my ramp because they skate there.
	The guy that owns Liquid Death, he came.
	Oh, yeah.
	And he's talking and I just met him and he's like, yeah, we're talking.
	And he's like, we're going out to the ramp.
	I'm like, you're going to skate?
	I didn't know he could skate.
	He could skate.
	He got a mini ramp in Liquid Death now and he could skate.
	Wow.
	But skating a mini ramp and skating his ramp is two different things, two different animals.
	And we're talking, chit-chatting.
	I'm skating.
	And I guess he's on the deck.
	And I'm like, if you're on the deck, you can skate.
	Yeah.
	You don't get it.
	You get the deck.
	The top of the ramp.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So he's up there hanging out.
	And then I guess he drop in.
	And I wasn't watching.
	I figured everybody could drop in, no big deal.
	So I see out of the corner of my eye right when he drops in, and he would have been so fucked.
	He hit it.
	Yeah.
	It was scary.
	It was scary.
	I just, every time I see, I saw him the other day at Liquid Death and I was like, dude, that drop in.
	Like, I can't forget.
	It was like a trick in itself because he should have died.
	What if he drowned?
	I always think.
	What if the Liquid Death guy drowned and it was just like literal liquid death.
	And that's how he went out.
	Oh, he drowned.
	I thought you meant like Jeranne Enoch can't liquid death.
	I've thought about it at least probably five, six times, I bet.
	Dude, because I think because that Segway dude went off that mountain member, he was stunt and he bought the Segways and he bought the company and then he fucking did one right off a mountain.
	Yeah, that's what he's getting tough.
	How do you segue off a mountain?
	Bro, it's because you don't know enough about the vert, fam.
	Wow.
	You know, you got to drop in different, I think, right?
	Yes.
	But how many dudes are in your DMs be like, hey, let me get up in that ramp?
	You know, that's what I feel like.
	It would be all.
	But it's like I said, it's mostly people that know how to skate ramps.
	Okay.
	It's not just a big influx of people like, I want to drop in on that thing.
	Yeah, let me hit that.
	Yeah.
	And I've seen it go.
	Yeah, let me smash it.
	I've seen it go.
	Brothers be like, hey, let me smash, dog.
	Smash into the flat bottom.
	They would know if you go there.
	Like, you could talk, but then when you go there and stand on the top of it, you know.
	You don't just, you don't let me, you don't let anybody just, no one's going to just go.
	You won't go.
	You heard the slow-mo guys?
	No.
	So the YouTube show, these guys do crazy stuff in high-definition slow-mo, like really high-speed cameras.
	And they came and they wanted to shoot me doing a trick, which we did.
	And then one of the hosts was like, hey, I want to try this.
	And then that became the thing.
	Clearly, was not ready for it.
	And took a slam worse than Big Boy.
	Like, his feet missed the board when he went in.
	He just dove to the bottom.
	Oh, there you go.
	Is that it?
	Oh, these goons will get boiled, bro.
	Look at these clowns.
	So the guy on the right.
	Oh.
	What?
	They're going to do this, bro?
	I think this might be the one where I'm, Are they really wearing those for a joke or are they?
	No, that's their vibe.
	Okay.
	Oh, bro.
	I've cleared stronger things out of my throat than these dudes.
	So this video was just my trick.
	So it's like super high speed.
	I did a heel flip melon body burial.
	Of course, dude.
	You love that trick, right, Theo?
	Of course, bro.
	My cousin had a lobotomy 667.
	But anyway, that dude fell.
	And he...
	That dude fell and broke his wrist.
	Oh, sorry, mate.
	And when he hit, he farted so bad.
	Yeah, no way.
	And then when we came to check on him, we're like, oh, dude.
	He didn't shit his pants.
	I don't know.
	He might have shit his pants.
	You could shit your pants on it.
	He was so stunned.
	He was so stunned that his homies.
	We shit out pants.
	Oh, yeah, dude.
	I've shit.
	I mean, yeah, I've shit him way off way less than this.
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, dude, come on.
	You can just tell that's not going to work.
	Right?
	Like, don't do it, dude.
	God.
	Oh, man.
	He knows.
	He's already stalled too long.
	He knows.
	And he broke his wrist?
	And he fighted the whole time he was fighting?
	Could you hear it or not?
	No, no.
	When we walked over to him, it was like, oh, dude.
	Did he shit his bad?
	That's the last healthy part of him being like, I'm out of this fucking clown.
	That's the ghost of his manliness flying out of his ass, bro.
	You fucking cooked out like that, dude.
	All his heart and courage is in his pants right now.
	They might have left before he did.
	He looked like he was pretty scared before he went in.
	He was smiling, dude.
	That's great.
	Well, it was, you know, the whole thing was supposed to be just my trick, and then this became the highlight of the whole day.
	I love how the other dude in the lab coat doesn't even fucking help him, bro.
	You can't dress like a doctor and not do doctor shit a little.
	At least CPR your homie, dog.
	Yeah, at least suck on his face for a second, fucking bring him back to life, dude.
	Oh, they got to try it again.
	They need to do a rebuttal or whatever it is.
	He didn't come back.
	Did anybody ever think you're Daniel Tosh ever?
	No.
	Somewhere?
	No.
	Uh-uh.
	Tom Green.
	I used to get Tom Green.
	When Tom Green's show was big on MTV, people would think I was Tom Green.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	So what else was I thinking about, dude?
	Who do people think you look like?
	I used to get Tom Brady when I was a little bit younger, and then now nobody really.
	Just you?
	Yeah, just me, or just they don't know who I am.
	All right.
	Hey, what's up?
	This is Josh from Toronto.
	I was just wondering, this is a question for all of you guys, whether you had any superstitions that you needed to do before performing, especially early on when there was low stakes.
	Sometimes our anxiety makes us want to be in control, and superstitions are a way of controlling things in the periphery of uncontrollable situations.
	I don't know if that's true.
	I made that up on the spot.
	Okay, thank you for your time, Gang.
	Damn, dude.
	What?
	He's getting deep.
	He could be smart.
	Are you superstitious?
	Is that what the question was?
	Yeah, I used to have...
	I guess I had little things I did, but I put my pads on left side first.
	Yeah.
	I used to be crazy superstitious, and then when I got let go from Sirius, I decided that all my...
	Yeah, that all my superstition things obviously didn't fucking work.
	Because I wouldn't walk on cracks on the street.
	I used to dodge cracks for like 10 years.
	And then I just decided when I got fired that I was going to matter.
	I was going to sip on cracks.
	I go underneath ladders and shit.
	Everybody can eat a dick.
	I hate it.
	Yeah, I think it's funny.
	I think when you are younger, you do think like maybe things like that matter, like way in the balance, like little things.
	Like I remember I used to swallow on different sides of my mouth for about maybe 15 years, you know?
	Like I would swallow like even it out.
	Yeah, just even it out.
	Just to like keep the world even.
	It was almost like a way of just like trying to keep the world even so that shit didn't get too haywire.
	It was like maybe a control mechanism.
	Do you guys ever have any stalkers?
	You guys ever have any good experience with stalkers?
	I feel like both you guys have had at least one.
	I don't have mine are, I'm not famous.
	I like like, come on, stalk me.
	I would love attention.
	I'm a fucking egotistical idiot.
	Everybody fucking stalks me.
	I think they stalk me and then I go, hey, you want to get coffee?
	And they're like, what the fuck, dude?
	You're pretty intense.
	I think I'm going to stalk Tony Hulk.
	In the 80s, there was a girl that paid the front desk to tell her which room I was in so that she could get a room next to mine.
	Nice.
	Nice.
	And then But nothing happened.
	She did knock on my door one time, and then it was sometime through the weekend.
	She knocked on my door, and then she did come in for a little bit.
	Nothing happened.
	But all of a sudden, this slamming on the door came, and I guess it was her boyfriend that knew the whole scoop of what she was up to.
	I'm just like, I didn't even know that this girl had already done this.
	I found this out later.
	And then the next day, I'm getting in the elevator, and the dude, I didn't know it was him because I hadn't seen him.
	And y'all got in this.
	He gets in the elevator, and he looks at me, and he's got a cast on.
	No.
	And why, what happened to me?
	And he's like, sorry about slamming on your door last night.
	Broke my wrist.
	Oh.
	Idiot.
	He's like, I was overreacting.
	I'm sorry.
	I was like, and he apologized.
	Yeah.
	Well, I guess he was drunk at this time.
	I feel sorry for that guy.
	That was an odd one.
	Yeah.
	I was just sort of...
	I feel like what you got.
	You got one.
	I kind of had that then.
	Yeah.
	Because girls will try and sleep with me, and usually they just can, and it's fine.
	But one time at Alice Mania, they had this fight called the strip fight, where every 30 seconds we decide who won the 30 seconds, and the person that loses takes an item of clothing off until they're down to a G-string and pasties.
	So I just go, regardless, I go, you lost, you lost.
	You lost, you lost.
	Right, now you're both naked, fight.
	So then they fight, and that's kind of the thing.
	So one of the people, you know, DM me, I get fighters.
	You're not allowed to know how to fight.
	That's the whole point.
	You're supposed to, I'm terrified.
	What is it like to fight?
	And I go, I'll hook you up in a fight where you get a real fight, but you're not going to get really hurt.
	Okay.
	Joe Rogan might disagree, but it's a couple of shots.
	And if you look like you're in trouble, we just call it.
	We don't let you bleed.
	Really cook out.
	You can't be grilling them out.
	Right.
	So this girl's nice enough.
	She does the fight, awesome fight.
	She looks great.
	She's got what I assume is a boyfriend, but it's like everyone has a, you're allowed to bring a coach or whatever, or just a plus one.
	She's got a man over there helping her out, a little leader.
	Yeah.
	So there's an after party, and I got this big room with all this bullshit at the hard rock.
	And she's hanging out, and she's asking if she can sleep with me.
	Who's she asking?
	Me.
	And I go, well, Katie, my wife.
	I go, she wants to sleep with me.
	She's like, yeah, whatever.
	And I go, what about this guy?
	Who's this guy?
	She goes, just my coach.
	And I go, oh, well then, okay, no problem.
	And then she's hanging out.
	And I look at him and I'm like, he is obviously bummed.
	And I go, hey, man, what's going on?
	You alright over there?
	He's like, you know, she's just, you know, been going out with each other for like some amount of years.
	And I'm like, what?
	We broke up.
	I'm like, but you're, I'm like, I'm so out of this.
	You guys need to spend time together.
	Go.
	Get him a little gift certificate or something.
	I can't play that game.
	Yeah, every now and then somebody just tries to.
	Brain check?
	Yeah, get him.
	Well, I feel like stalkers,'cause some of my friends always get stalkers and I'm like, damn, I can't get, I think stalkers is more of a sex thing.
	You mean somebody you've already had sex with and it was so good that they just keep.
	I feel like that's the only way it would make sense.
	Like, if you kind of are okay at sex, I don't think anybody's, you know, smashing through your windows to get back and hang out with you.
	Yeah.
	I thought stalkers, you'd never miss out.
	Nobody's got a little more mentally unstable and it's not.
	But something has to spark that stalk.
	You got to light that up.
	Well, a lot of times they think that whatever art you're doing, whatever content you're creating is speaking directly to them.
	I mean, that seems like the more scary stalker, not, hey, I like you and I'm trying to get to you.
	Well, I guess I had a girl who left her vax card on my window, and they said she wrote, check me for COVID on there.
	Charlotte was her name.
	I've never had anybody.
	Like, my friends get the girls.
	They're jumping over the fence.
	They're yelling.
	They're throwing stuff through the windows.
	I don't know.
	These are the ones they've had to call the cops on.
	Wow.
	Not stalkers.
	Yeah.
	So really.
	But I think they got to be sexually motivated.
	I don't think anybody's fucking smashing through your living room window to fucking come watch an episode of Dexter New Blood or something.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I think you got to have a real, you got to have fused them up with some cop.
	It's an interesting theory.
	I think.
	Because now I feel like any guy that's like a super fan kind of wants to have sex with me.
	It's getting to that point.
	It feels like a lot of...
	Do you think somebody's super famous, like a guy, because I always said, let's say if I wasn't part gay, I would blow David Bowie before he died.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Pre-death, yeah.
	And I wouldn't say that would make me gay.
	Would you act out blowing him even though he's deceased with that?
	Yeah.
	No.
	I feel like kissing people and sucking dick is a gay look.
	We're killing time here.
	That's what we're doing.
	You know the dude who was standing on the ramp just like this for a while?
	That's what we're doing, bro.
	We're just trying not to freaking shit our opponents in a minute.
	What else was something fun that I want to ask you guys?
	Here's a beautiful question right here by some hard young male.
	Hey, boys.
	Greetings from Vista.
	Had a quick question for Jason here.
	You know, I've been listening to you since I was a little kid in the back of my mom's Honda Civic.
	Ever since the days of your beef with LL Cool J. It was funny.
	But Jason, I was wondering, you know, someone who's grown up around with a family with a lot of addiction, you know, I was curious, because you're now very open about your sexuality at this point.
	And I've always wondered, you know, do you think that drugs were more of an opportunity for you to unlock something that was always inside of you?
	Or do you feel like the extremes of your sexuality have been part of lusting after a different high?
	And without drugs, do you think that you'd be the same person that you are sober now today?
	Or do you think that was always kind of a part of you?
	That's a lot.
	Can I just answer the first one?
	Yeah.
	I don't think I'm bi because I did drugs.
	I think I definitely did.
	When I did drugs, it helped me do things that I was scared to do, for sure.
	When it came to that.
	You think there's a man, because there's a lot of drug-induced homosexuality in my area.
	Yeah, that's what I thought I was, because I did so many drugs.
	I was like, you just, you're not gay.
	You just did eight molly pills and you'll let anybody blow you.
	That doesn't make you gay.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, because you'd see a lot of gay men meet up behind the rest area in our town and they would do drugs and then get involved in the sexual activity behind the rest area.
	And people would actually shoot these potato guns at them.
	They had like uh because there was a river.
	There was a river right there and these two guys across the river would, you know, not if they were not doesn't sound like the spot to go just to break them up?
	Yeah, it was like a warning shot.
	Yeah, it was all warning shots.
	But it was like, yeah, because I guess they were just alarmed if there was like drug-induced homosexuality.
	That's what I think people were alarmed at.
	I mean, potty, man.
	Or maybe they're just trying to be uninhibited.
	Maybe that's just trying to, you know, get away from their inhibitions and treat people when they get really hot.
	So yeah, that was a different time when that was going on.
	But now, yeah, I think like, yeah, because drugs will just make you a little more brave, I think, almost to do anything sometimes.
	And especially if you're really clowned out, dude, you'll fucking try and eat your own ass.
	My uncle.
	He's got a point.
	My uncle used to tell us, go look in your ass, bro.
	And we'd fucking be gone for like 40 minutes, dude, trying to look at our own ass, bro.
	That's a weird thing.
	I remember the first time I shaved my ass and was like trying to find my hole in the mirror.
	And I was like, wow, I feel slightly like less confident in myself by looking at myself from this angle.
	Oh, yeah.
	But eventually you get, you know, because that's your ass.
	You better live with it, you know.
	Staring in the ass, I think it does weaken you.
	Yeah, see, I think it does at first.
	But for me, because at first I felt the same thing.
	No, it's empowering.
	Same as when my ass.
	Own your hole.
	Own your hole.
	There you go, baby.
	Yeah.
	I believe in my hole.
	I love that, man.
	Own your hole, man.
	We're going all the way.
	Praise God.
	Me and my hole.
	I could always trust it.
	It's right behind me at all times.
	When there was only one set of footsteps in the sand that was really hole as well, yeah.
	Yeah, praise God.
	Got my back.
	What else could I ask you guys about?
	Oh, did you guys used to do demos and stuff like that when y'all were coming up?
	Like when you guys were skate?
	Did you guys ever go do demos at different shops?
	I'm sure you probably did, Tony.
	Did you do them as well?
	I did them with him.
	Oh, you did?
	And what was some of that life like?
	Like, was it at that time?
	Were you guys already kind of popular in that space?
	Was it like, was it pretty?
	I've done it in every version.
	So I've done them where no one knew about skating, cared about skating.
	And it would happen.
	I'd bump in a parking lot.
	People were just like, what the hell is that thing?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And then done it where it was wild and thousands of people.
	Stadium shit.
	Yeah, stadium type stuff.
	And then when things kind of went south again, especially in the early 90s, we were doing demos in parking lots of skate shops or sporting goods stores, and they would just put stuff up.
	So here's a box and here's a jump ramp.
	Go ahead.
	And then, you know, 50 people are watching, and we're trying to get like 300 bucks from the shop so that we can say hotel room.
	It's almost like open mics are comedy kind of.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but we're not.
	So we did have to survive.
	Open mic is more humiliating.
	As a guy that's trying to do stand-up, it is way harder mentally.
	Like skateboarding, even when you're, because I've sucked at skateboarding and been in a demo and a contest.
	I know what it's like to be the shit guy on the ramp.
	I don't even know where I stand in comedy.
	I don't give a shit if everyone came just to see me.
	I'm shitting myself.
	I don't know what it is, man.
	I can talk in front of thousands of people, but stand up.
	I've never been more nervous in my fucking life.
	Wow.
	And that's why I'm attracted to it because I'm trying to figure out what that is.
	I had the greatest, I've only done a little bit, but I did a set with Ryan Sickler and it was 500 people in a proper place.
	And I'm like, I've never done a proper place.
	And right before I went out, I was like, note to self.
	My knee is shaking.
	And I'm like, why is your knee shaking?
	Are you cold?
	Like, I was like, I think I am.
	I think I'm going to be getting hypothermia.
	And I'm like, everyone else has got a t-shirt on.
	What is your deal?
	I'm like, after I was done, I was like, yeah, cool.
	Wow.
	But what the fuck was that?
	I've had fights.
	I fought Shane Carmen.
	I was like, man, this is a bad idea.
	I feel real nervous.
	That was way more nerve-wracking.
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	Is there a different kind of nerves then?
	Can we think about that for a second?
	Because, yeah, what are those different nerves?
	Was one nerves different than the other?
	Like the nerves of going, like, does it feel different?
	I'm just trying to think while I'm talking.
	Well, it's nerves of pain, because if you don't do the trick right, you're going to get really hurt.
	So that's a nerve.
	That's a nerve I have if I want a skateboarding ring.
	But if we go do demos, there are things that we know we're capable of that are tried and true, that are like sort of playing the hits.
	So we're going to go there and be like no matter what, I'm going to leave here and people are going to think I'm good at skateboarding.
	Pretty good at skateboarding.
	But when he's doing something new like comedy, he doesn't know.
	There's no standards set for him.
	But is there something that you get nervous at that make that like I'm just trying to equate like if I'm on a skateboard ramp, I can feel that right now.
	I get real scared of heights being higher than I should be, you know, for myself.
	And so that fear gets an I feel like it's in my stomach more and in my body.
	Yeah.
	That's definitely my body.
	Whereas if I'm going out to do comedy or doing something like karaoke makes me so nervous, right?
	I'm trying to think of where that fear is.
	It's not, Yeah, and it's more in my ego, I feel like a lot of my fear from there comes.
	But what about when you started comedy?
	Were you really nervous when you started?
	Yeah, I think I was pretty.
	Yeah, I was definitely nervous.
	Okay, so was there a period of time where every time before you went up, you were like, fuck, I hope this works out.
	Yeah.
	Okay, good.
	Yeah.
	But there are still times when I go in front of a crowd and it's a new ramp or whatever, and I am so nervous because I don't have the confidence that maybe it's my ramp or because the crowd's way bigger and louder than I imagined.
	And all of a sudden, my body won't work the way that it should.
	And I'm bailing stuff that I can do in my sleep.
	And that's when I have to reassess and try to do even exercises where it's like, come on, just snap into being normal.
	See, his demo is different than, because I've done demos with him.
	Yeah.
	And there's 20 of us sometimes, all like the best dudes in the world, but it's like 5,000 people, 4,500 people are looking at everything he does.
	Oh, yeah.
	And you can tell, you know, like he'll drop in and it's like, ooh, you feel every, so I feel like the pressure because I'm there and it's like, oh, I got Tony Holstein's all right.
	You know what I mean?
	Or he fucking sucks.
	Either way, you didn't care.
	Who am I?
	But not him.
	Or you all know.
	But I guess sometimes that gets the best of me.
	Right.
	Usually I can overcome it, but sometimes it does.
	And it doesn't last long.
	I've never, never done a demo where I felt like I couldn't figure it out the whole time.
	Did you did at any point, like, did your, was there a part in your career where your ego started to get big?
	Like, you felt that going on in your world?
	Like I've noticed that in my own life at times, your ego,'cause it's kind of like this plant that gets watered by, not even you watering it, you know?
	It's this thing that grows sometimes.
	Did you ever have any And then all of a sudden we're traveling the world and there's crowds and then that definitely gets to you when you're at such an impressionable formative age.
	So when I'm like 18, 19, traveling the world, thousands of people, autographs, you know, parties, girls, everything.
	And it was just like, at some point, I think that I took it for granted and maybe even expected it.
	And then it was all taken away from me because skating died.
	And now that I get to live through another wave of success, I don't take any of it for granted.
	And I'm just so thankful that I even get paid to do it at all.
	So I'm glad I went through that.
	Yeah, when like, like with the ego, do you think it like it's, do you think it's just something that happens to people?
	Because that's an interesting experience that you've had where you got to like, you know, you just got to have, you know, popularity and stuff like that.
	I feel like the people who have the worst egos are the ones that get into it for those motivations.
	They get into it for fame or fortune.
	And then when they finally get it, they just expect it.
	And maybe that'll last for a little bit, but at some point, people are over you if you're walking around like you deserve all of it.
	They had a plan.
	It was a secret plan to be an asshole the whole time.
	Oh.
	That's what it looks like.
	Yeah.
	Because some people are just like, I knew you before you were that.
	And now We're still on the same fucking planet, dude, with the same skin on, and you're acting like all of a sudden you're made of fucking diamonds.
	But you do see those same people lose their motivation, and they don't keep their skills up.
	Because it was never there, probably, to begin with.
	Or it was there, but the motivation was just to get to this point of celebrity.
	And when they get to that point, they're not motivated to get better.
	And that's when they fall off.
	And so in my case, I just want to keep getting better at skating.
	Thank God that was there for you then.
	Just because it's like that kind of stuff can happen.
	You know, it's like sometimes I think it happens and people don't realize it till years later.
	You know, like what was even going on.
	If you realized it at the time, you probably stop.
	Like, what do you mean?
	Like, if you're being an egotistical shithead, you're not appreciating where you are and you realize it right there and then, then you would, hopefully you would stop or make a, like get on the right track or try to get on the right track.
	I've done it.
	I did it with the radio.
	Skateboarding, I was famous, not as famous as him, but famous enough to be an asshole and fly around the world and be like, ah, it was nothing.
	I wasn't like on purpose mean, but I was definitely like not appreciative of the people and all the life that I was living.
	Just no thank yous, just fucking give me the shit.
	Give me the money.
	And then the radio, same thing.
	Yeah.
	It was accidental.
	Got real big.
	All of a sudden, people are all up my ass.
	And I'm straight back into that thing running everybody.
	I know what I'm doing.
	Fucking nobody knows anything.
	And then had to, you know, go to, that's when I started going to therapy and shit because I couldn't have a relationship.
	Yeah.
	Like I could be the boss of a show, but nobody would date me.
	Oh, dude, that's where I'm at.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Nobody will date you because you, what do you snap on people or something?
	No, people can date me.
	I just have trouble with commitment and stuff like that.
	And I've just had so much anger and I don't know what I'm angry at.
	That is, I know exactly what that is.
	Being super angry and not knowing why.
	That was the thing that made me go because I had everything.
	I was like, I have everything that I'd ever want.
	Like you're on fire and all you do is fucking talk about dicks and then you go home and do whatever you want.
	Like this is, no, and what was your other job?
	I was a skateboarder.
	Like, come on.
	You can't get a better life.
	And you're just, or, you know what I mean?
	I really just want to listen to some dark metal by myself and think about pulling things apart.
	Like, what's wrong with you, dude?
	Oh, I'll go get those chickens at the store and just take them apart, man.
	Wait, are they cooked?
	Huh?
	Oh, yeah, they're cooked.
	They're pre-cooked.
	Do you eat it when you pull it apart?
	When you just leave it.
	Creep, bro.
	But I put on.
	What do you mean?
	You buy a chicken to pull it apart.
	I'll put on Cornelia Smith or some sad music and just fucking carve that bitch up, son.
	Do you eat it as well or are you just carving?
	I'll have a little sometimes, but sometimes it's more for the sport of it, honestly.
	Wow.
	You know?
	It's like, yeah, sometimes I just got to let.
	It's just like I just want.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I've just been angry.
	And man, it has been not fun.
	You should do ayahuasca, man.
	That is a unique outlet.
	I've never heard of someone pulling apart chickens.
	It's not a good.
	I feel like you could do better.
	As an escape.
	Yeah, it's an inner.
	I think when you're in a city and you don't have, you know, it's like more of a, you know, it's, if you're in outside, you know, you're out, there's a place you could go do something, get a good, you know, do a weapon or something like that.
	Did you do jiu-jitsu?
	Huh?
	Didn't you do jiu-jitsu?
	Yeah, I'll do it sometimes.
	It's been hard.
	When I'm in LA, it's tough.
	And when I'm touring, it's tough.
	So it's hard to really lock into stuff.
	That's one hard thing about touring.
	What do you do on tour?
	You could bring a jiu-jitsu guy and mats and roll every day in your room, but that is ridiculous.
	Yeah.
	Because I'm saying it.
	Shut up.
	That's some rich guy shit.
	That's fucking rich.
	He can act like it, but he's fucking fucking out of here.
	I'm fucking rich.
	Come on.
	Get the fuck out.
	I will never be.
	Based on the reaction of my kids that are doing this show, you got something.
	I don't know what it is, dude.
	You're holding something.
	Your kids have obviously been misled by a prominent male in their life.
	Okay?
	No.
	No.
	Finger long never fuck out.
	Yeah, my oldest son, Riley, is not here.
	My stepkids are here, Miles and Calvin.
	But my oldest son, Riley, said, you didn't the Yavon, and then sent me a photo of the shirt he's wearing, which is your shirt today.
	That happened.
	That's pretty cool.
	That made my day, actually.
	It's not making him.
	So you at least made some royalties off that purchase.
	Yeah, off that shirt.
	Yeah, it's a good shirt, man.
	Your podcasts are huge.
	That's my brother's favorite shirt.
	Yeah, man.
	I mean, I do fine.
	I just will never feel rich.
	I don't know.
	Was it more like you just never say it?
	Because it sounds wrong?
	Yeah, I just would never want to be rich, dude.
	That fucking sounds retarded, I feel like.
	Being some rich guy, I'm going to get a briefcase.
	Why do you have to get a briefcase?
	You gotta do...
	Can you just have to work in administration?
	Yeah, but I'm just not like, you know, I'm not doing that, bro.
	So do you give your money to charity or something?
	We give away a decent amount, you know, but yeah, I mean, I guess maybe I'll have some money, but I'll hopefully never be rich like in my head, you know.
	I think I always just looked at, look, I despised rich people, I think.
	So I think I have some issues with it probably, you know.
	But what else, dude?
	What about a good product?
	You guys ever have a good product?
	Here's a question right here from some white.
	I thought there was going to be something on the end of that.
	Just this guy knows, bro.
	Look at him.
	And then I'm a big fan of both of you.
	But I have a question for Tony.
	Back in 1999, you landed the 900 on the half pipe.
	I don't know if it's the only one that's been landed, but regardless of all that, the post-interview, you said it was the best day of your life.
	My question is, is there a trick that surpassed the 900 after that, or is that still the best day of your life?
	A couple days ago, I've been rocking the mullet.
	First haircut ever.
	I've been getting my mom to cut my hair for my whole life, but that's the first professional cut, and I chose a mullet.
	So shout out to you, Gang, Gang.
	Gang, baby, grow it out, baby.
	God hang on the back.
	Technically, to answer his question, Yes, but well after I did 900 at the X Games then a few other people learned it within the same year and then Tom Char did a 1080 about 10 years later.
	Did it hurt your feelings when he did it?
	No.
	He's not that guy.
	Yeah, I was like, there was no way I was ever going to try that.
	What I went through with 900s and even after I made it and some of the slams I took after I could do it knowing that I'd have to try to spin another rotation.
	Nah.
	And then let's see, 1080, then Mitchie Brusco did a 1080.
	Then Mitchie Brusco went on to do a 1260.
	So that is the record.
	No one has done a 1260 on mega, right?
	Mega, three and a half spins in the air.
	On the mega ram, too.
	You know what that is?
	No.
	It's like a 30-foot quarter pipe, twice as big as a vote ramp.
	Yeah, so you get more air.
	It's like 18 feet high.
	Enough, man.
	Enough is enough.
	Enough, yeah.
	But you didn't say.
	But also, that thing sometimes comes back to bite me with saying it was the greatest day of my life.
	I was overcome with emotion.
	It's supposed to be when your kids are born, right?
	Did you get to that?
	Yeah, well, also, my wife at the time and our newborn was right there.
	So that wasn't a good thing.
	You got to let him live, man.
	The 900 was a really big thing.
	But also, I tried to defend it, which was not a good idea, too.
	I meant to say it's the greatest day of my career or the greatest day of my skating career.
	But also, there was a part of me that was like, well, you know what?
	I've been trying 900s for about 10 years.
	I haven't been trying to have kids for 10 years.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, that's a good call, man.
	It was one of the greatest days for skateboarding's life.
	Like, that's how big of a deal it was.
	Well, I heard about it, and I didn't know anything about skateboarding.
	Right.
	I could tell when he did it, that people that didn't skate were like, this is a big deal.
	Usually, it's just us that care, you know?
	Right.
	Yeah, I mean, when I learned 720s, it was in 1985 on a backyard ramp in Stockholm, Sweden.
	There were two people there.
	No one cared.
	You know, I was like, oh, that was cool.
	New spin.
	Yeah, but then that shit flew around the world.
	And, you know, because there was no internet, but I heard you did that.
	Yeah, but you were also in the community, the very small community of skateboarding.
	But that one, because it was on ESPN and because they showed it live, it just kind of went viral.
	When also, yeah, I mean, the video game too, when that popped, I mean, it was like that.
	A video game was almost like, it was almost like a TikTok video now.
	Like, everybody can make a video game in 30 seconds on their phone, you know?
	It's like, but back then, there was only a few videos that got, there was like, you know, so a video game was almost just like a YouTube video now in a way.
	You know, it was like a way to see something different.
	You know, there wasn't that many, there was television, movie, or video game.
	There wasn't anything else.
	It's like the hip-hop era, the gold, what is it, the gold era, where it's like if you're a hip-hop, if you're a big hip-hop artist in the late 80s, 90s, then you're still a hip-hop artist today.
	It's very hard to be from another generation and still be solid.
	Right.
	But the video game, it's a video game that's...
	It's got respect.
	But there's not many of those.
	it's always like ever changing.
	Tony Hawk's video game seems like...
	That's usually the first thing people say to me now who grew up either, you know, knowing my name or recognizing me.
	If someone recognized me, that happened today.
	It's like, oh, what's up, Tony Hawk?
	Video games.
	That happened in the parking lot, actually.
	I went to a restaurant before I got here.
	And when I got out of my car, this dude jumped out of his car, stopped his car, jumped out of me.
	He's like, yo, man.
	And then he saw my skateboard in the trunk.
	He saw my skateboard in the trunk.
	Yeah, and he's like, let me get a clip.
	Do a trick.
	And so I grabbed the skateboard and went down the parking garage.
	I did because I was going to the restaurant and I was going to skate there anyway, but I was just like, yeah, catch me as I'm leaving.
	What a guy.
	Was there any product you guys ever pushed that was kind of crazy?
	Like, was there ever a product that got presented to you guys that was, like, kind of bananas?
	Like, that you guys ever...
	Are you saying?
	Like, Kid Rock tells this story about he got involved with this company called Badass Beer, right?
	And so he made like a meal, like, and I'm paranoid.
	He made his own beer, right?
	And I think that's what it was.
	It was his own beer, right?
	But the second batch of it was fucking horrible that it's cooked it too long or something.
	But they still put it out, right?
	Which was, that was not the best move, I don't think.
	So it just cannibalized the whole thing.
	Everybody's like, this fucking beer is shit, you know?
	So I worked with a company that I didn't realize.
	It was in the 80s that I didn't realize I had signed away my rights to them.
	And I had no idea what that meant.
	I was, I was, whatever, 19 or something.
	And they just started making products with my name on it.
	And I finally came to them.
	I was like, you guys, this sucks.
	You can't do this.
	And they're like, actually, we can.
	Yeah.
	You know, it was more like a cooking robe.
	It was a Velcro wallet, which was fine.
	Basically, they stole the Vision Streetwear logo and it just said Tony Hawk gear.
	They've ripped off two people.
	Yeah.
	And I just said, you guys, this is Vision Streetwear.
	Yeah.
	And they're like, yeah, well, the Tri-Bar logos are hot right now.
	I go, yeah, but this is Vision Streetwear.
	And then you're putting my name on it.
	So it looks like I'm ripping off Vision Streetwear and I'm a skate skater.
	They're a skate brand, and I don't ride for them.
	And they were just like, nah.
	And while I was talking to this dude, this is a true story.
	While I was talking to this dude, behind him on his shelf is a roll of toilet paper with the same logo.
	He put Vision Streetwear on toilet paper.
	Tony Hawk gear.
	Tony Hawk toilet paper.
	Yeah.
	And I was like, what is that?
	And he goes, oh, that.
	Oh, that's one of our retailers said, yeah, man, we'll take whatever you got with Tony Hawk's name.
	You can put toilet paper on there and it'll sell.
	So we made that for him.
	Wow.
	And I was like, dude, I want out of here.
	And I actually paid to get out of my contract.
	Damn.
	Them T-Hawk shit tickets.
	I'd take a box of them, bro.
	I'd keep a box of them on deck.
	You should keep that in your glove box.
	We had, what was it?
	In one time they had this thing.
	it was like kind of hard condoms or whatever, I think.
	And it was like it was condoms were already a little harder than regular, so it was like hotter, like the material, yeah, the material.
	Yeah, so you didn't have to get it hard.
	Built in by agreement.
	Oh, it's got like a spine in it.
	Yeah, it's got like a little, it was like called Chance Condoms or something.
	I don't know.
	Can you pull it up?
	Chance condoms?
	Backbone.
	Backbone makes more sense.
	But it was like endorsing them?
	It was like, we'll meet you halfway or something was their thing.
	I don't remember what it was.
	Wait, you were sponsored by it?
	We did it for a couple of, yeah, we did it for like four, like maybe four ad reads or something.
	It was like, yeah.
	Do you never put one on?
	Partially hard condoms, maybe?
	Holy no way.
	You gotta go partially hard condoms, man.
	No.
	You guys must have the most insane search history.
	And just go to images, I think.
	Let's do some pics here.
	You gotta judge by the JPEG on this.
	A little AIDS at the top.
	Scoot down a little.
	A yellow one is that?
	That kind of slips off.
	Wow.
	I'm gonna have to get a hold of some if we still have any at the other place, man.
	But yeah, we have parts of the article.
	What else did we have?
	That was bizarre.
	Did you deny anything?
	We denied some stuff, like some sexual stuff, alcohol we don't do.
	I don't know if there's been anything else.
	I've seen a lot of merch people come to my show and I'm like, oh, and I'm like, we've never made that.
	I denied a tour.
	There was a tour that went on.
	You probably heard about it in Malaysia, where it was like an extreme sports tour.
	And it was skateboarding and BMX and maybe inlining.
	Cool.
	And it was at a time when there wasn't, it was before X games were big.
	And the whole tour was sponsored by Benson Hedges.
	Yeah.
	Sweet cigarettes.
	Cigarettes.
	Grandpa cigarettes.
	And there were some skaters that went that were like sober skaters, didn't smoke, didn't drink, and went and did the tour.
	It's sponsored by Benson Hedges.
	And I was like, you guys, how could.
	And they started smoking, probably.
	No, they didn't, but I was shocked because I chose not to do it.
	I was like, I don't want to go to a, I don't want to have a sponsored tobacco-sponsored skate tour.
	And it was going to be 18 and over, too, because it's sponsored by tobacco.
	So I was like, so there's all these kids can't see a skate.
	And so it just didn't feel right to me.
	So I did not, and whatever, I'm not trying to say I'm holier than that.
	I just rubbed my hands.
	Yeah, no.
	Look, we did a lot of alcohol.
	The irony about all of that was it was right at the time when all those crazy fires were happening in Malaysia.
	And so the second half of the tour got canceled because of smoke.
	No.
	I mean, sorry, but I saw a thick sister fight a monkey for a bag of chips in Malaysia one time.
	We were on a field trip.
	Wait, it was a thing that you could watch.
	She did it more than once?
	No, monkeys are gnarly.
	Yeah, we went and they, I got to go later on, and they come and steal your food.
	Yeah, gnarly.
	And the woods were a sick out there, yeah, with a big bag of ruffles on her, and these motherfuckers came through, son.
	Who shows up to that area with a big bag of ruffles?
	Like, you're asking for it.
	Oh, I, this girl.
	I went with Riley, and Riley and I were, there was this area where all these monkeys are known to, and there was this little snack thing.
	Monkey got chips, and as soon as we got them, they're just like, and they take the whole bag.
	Look at this, beating up this white dude right here.
	Monkeys love fucking chips, bro.
	What's that?
	No, the thing he's holding is of some kind of a colour.
	You do not want to get a cucumber?
	No, they're crazy.
	They got everything.
	Dude, they're wild, bro.
	I got a photo of one of them giving me a look like he's going to bite me.
	Were you at the birth of your children?
	Did you ever go in the room during childbirth?
	That's crazy.
	What?
	That's crazy.
	My dad said he went and looked at cars when I was getting born.
	But he also said that, you know, your mom got pregnant and, you know, I thought about running, but I stayed.
	So it was a different time.
	Now, you can't not be there for the baby.
	That's like, unless you're divorced or in the middle of divorce, you're getting big, like, I can't even.
	I'm getting queasy.
	I just don't know.
	I'm wondering if it's the same type of nerds if you get if you're dropping in on a big ramp or something.
	It's pretty scary.
	I think that's a different experience.
	But it is scary.
	It's scary.
	I feel like if you had more than one, then it's less scary.
	And if you have more than one, it happens real fast.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Oh, the second one comes out quicker?
	Yeah.
	Oh, that first one's that real rocker, huh?
	Yeah.
	That first one's that real trap smasher, dog.
	You know, I destroyed my mom.
	One time when she was real angry, she pulled her shirt up because she had like stretch marks that were real bad.
	And she's like, look what you did to me.
	And I remember, I thought they were stitches.
	It looked like a shock attack.
	I was like, oh, I'm so sorry.
	Because apparently I was 11 pounds and I was a lazy baby.
	So I was like, I'm chilling.
	And they're like trying to grab on my big fat leg.
	And I was like, like a beached whale.
	Just beached up in a badge.
	Just chilling.
	Dude, I was in New York one time and somebody jumped off a building, right, and took in their life.
	And so I was just kind of meandering around, just kind of seeing what was going on.
	And this lady's like, you know what?
	And I was like, I was like, what happened?
	She's like, you want to know?
	And I was like, yeah, I want to know.
	And then she pulled up her dress, right, and said that the guy jumped off the building and landed in her pussy.
	Nice.
	So it was his fate hanging out?
	No, she just said that.
	And so I'm like, this lady's crazy, right?
	But just what a crazy thing to think, right?
	She was bonkers.
	Seemed like she just wanted to show you her pussy.
	Maybe.
	But I fell for it.
	Who doesn't, you know?
	Who doesn't?
	That would get me time and time again.
	I don't know how many times.
	Ah, you got me.
	Once again.
	The old caught a guy in my vagina trick.
	Yeah, that works every time, man.
	We got one or two more questions, man, and then we'll get y'all on your way.
	Here's some guy from the slide.
	Hey, what's up, Theo?
	So I had a question for Jason, Mr. Jason Ellis.
	Since you were a pro fighter, what would be who's a pro fighter of yours, either past or present time, that you wish you shared the ring with?
	Love you, brother.
	Gang, gang.
	Praise the Lord, baby.
	I don't think it's a good idea that everybody I think who's really cool in fighting that I would share the every time I share the ring with someone who I think is really cool at fighting, I usually get beat up pretty bad.
	Really?
	Yeah, it's kind of what I want to do.
	So because it's like the full experience of what's it like to spar with like Keith Jardine?
	And I don't want Keith Jardine to not punch me.
	That would be like not really sparring.
	So yeah, I've done that with a few of those people, but to fight fight with one of those people, I'm not insane.
	I don't want to die, you know?
	Like I fight because it's fun, but I don't want to like have a full death wish fight.
	And I feel like that's what would happen if it was all the people that I think is really all.
	I sparred Dominic Cruz once before a fight.
	Wow.
	And he like really, he like after it, because he staggered me.
	Like he caught me really good because he's obviously a thousand times better and that was just going to happen.
	And he caught me and I got staggered and I kept fighting.
	And then afterwards, he said to me, you know, when I rocked you there and you kept going, that's all you're going to need for this fight.
	Like I know you're ready for this fight.
	I know you can win this fight because you showed me the thing that I was, the only question that I had is what happens when you get rocked.
	And I thought, you actually knew you were going to concuss me and to see how I was going to react.
	That's beautiful.
	appreciate the help but it was also like you guys are insane and i'm only what he I'm not a profile.
	I've had a couple pro fights, but I'm not a pro fighter.
	I know what a pro fighter is.
	That's why I don't need to say it.
	I like the idea that he did hit you and you go down and like, nah, you don't have it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, no, but it's not going to work out for you.
	Yeah, was he going to tell me that when I woke up or something?
	Yeah, I don't know how that works.
	Just testing you.
	Yeah, man, not for you guys.
	I guess that would be a sign in itself.
	Not for you guy.
	We got one more question that came in right here, actually.
	What's up, fellas?
	This is Tim from Windsor, Ontario, Canada.
	Tony, I know you put out a board that had your blood in the paint.
	I was wondering if you're going to be putting out any other products with your blood in it.
	And Jason, if you could put out a product with your blood in it, what products would you put out?
	Thanks, fellas.
	That's an awesome question.
	No, but actually, that all happened with Liquid Death.
	And the reason it happened was because they were talking about doing some sort of unique promotion.
	And they presented that idea to me.
	And I grew up a fan of Kiss in the 70s.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	And Kiss did that in comic books, in Marvel Comics.
	They made a Kiss comic book, and all the members of the band put their blood into the ink vat.
	Wow.
	And I thought that was one of the coolest things ever.
	And so there's people that are saying, like, Satanic and whatever.
	Or somehow was copying Lil Nas X, but I didn't even know about his thing when I did it.
	Yeah.
	But that was the motivation.
	And then when we went to do it, it caused a big ruckus because, well, for one, some people thought it was weird, gross, evil.
	Awesome.
	And then other people thought that it was a copy of Lil Nas X and then, Well, you're saying.
	It's like, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But I'm just saying, that was my motivation.
	So to answer his question, no, no more blood.
	No more.
	When you go play as when you throw something in there.
	I'm about to shoot blood loads into meat pies and tacos.
	I feel like signature Jason Ellis meat pies with a little bit of blood come in there for the community.
	It's going to get edgy, you know?
	Like, what am I going to do?
	Like, come in.
	What if there's a recent?
	Some blood toys?
	Like, it's ridiculous.
	I got to come in heavy.
	Yeah.
	Blood guitar or, you know what I mean?
	Like blood, like a bumper bar for trucks with blood on it.
	Or a toilet, toilet seat with blood.
	It was hard to find a skateboard screening company that would do it.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Well, some people thought, what, it was Satan or something?
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, just people, yeah, but the companies, like the screening companies, they just were like, I don't want to deal with blood.
	Right.
	You're a bunch of whimps.
	Right?
	It's a little blood.
	We're all blood, man.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	Yeah, but during the time of COVID.
	I get it.
	Like, during the time of COVID, just like, yeah, here's some plasma.
	I'd take a batch dog.
	Whatever these days.
	Who knows?
	My wife's into that stuff.
	Is she really?
	Yeah.
	Oh, Jeepers.
	I get nervous a little bit.
	Because you only have a certain amount of blood in you.
	That's what's interesting.
	You know what's weird is how when you lose some blood, that you make more blood inside.
	I'm like, where's that come from?
	Yeah.
	I don't know how to make it.
	That's Jesus Christ, dude.
	Jesus Christ makes the blood?
	I mean, who else does?
	Who else is going to stay up on it and make your blood?
	Prometheus.
	Okay, well, whatever you want to call him, dude.
	I know he has a fucking couple screens.
	I'm just saying, he ain't got a beard or shit.
	It's more of a big, really giant jackbold guy.
	Look, his IG handle could be Prometheus for sure.
	I'm not sure.
	He's not white.
	That's for sure.
	He's mixed, probably.
	Anything else we got?
	I know we got, uh...
	What kind of guests are you guys going to have on?
	I want to come back on and be a guest sometime if you want.
	Yeah, dude.
	We'll have you on anytime you want.
	Do you want to try and skate?
	Ooh, I don't know.
	Just on the bottom, not drop in.
	Oh, yeah, dude.
	I'll skate straight across the bottom.
	Is there like a, like a.
	I can already tell the reason.
	A toe of sorts like a fucking ski lift.
	What the fuck is wrong with you, dude?
	He wants a harness.
	Yeah, I'm going to give on a horse.
	Yeah.
	I just want some help.
	Are you skating?
	I just need some help, brother.
	Yeah, we'll give you help.
	I'm not bringing a fucking harness for you.
	You can hold my hand if you want.
	You take my dick, my hand, two different things.
	I'll wear a glove if it makes it more headbone.
	Yeah, but you'll put the glove on your dick.
	I know you do.
	It's a gateway.
	You'll be like, that's a weird hand.
	It's only got one finger.
	Damn, why does this hand have a hard, semi-hard condom already on?
	We have had guests.
	We've had a couple of skateboarders.
	Yeah, skater.
	We had Jack Black.
	Oh, I didn't know that.
	We had Poopies, who's the newest jackass member, and he talked about his shark attack, which was fascinating and frightening.
	Didn't fucking Tiger Belly.
	He said he would come down.
	Oh, Bobby.
	Bobby said he would come down.
	That would be huge.
	And I don't know when this is airing, but we just did Rodney Mullen, and that's going to come out soon, and that was pretty amazing because he knows he is, but he's kind of the godfather of modern skateboarding.
	He's great.
	He's the guy that invented Hayflips.
	Wow.
	And he flips.
	And Heoplips.
	And his story is the most insane story of any human alive.
	Is it really?
	He's right now, still skateboarding at night in the dark.
	He only goes and he goes at midnight and skates till 5 in the morning.
	And then he goes home and goes to sleep.
	And then when he lived in London, because his girlfriend's there working, I was like, doesn't it rain there?
	And he goes, yeah, I bring a wetboard.
	And I'm like, what's a wetboard?
	It's like a board that's like waterlogged and I just skate in the rain.
	And I'm like, do you bring like a rain jacket?
	He's like, no, I just take my shirt off.
	So at four in the morning, you can catch Rodney Mullen in London doing skateboard tricks by himself for hours still.
	The skate community is very excited that we got Rodney on the show.
	Because Rodney does not do very many interviews at all.
	That's awesome, man.
	Well, congratulations, dude.
	I'm really excited to see what you guys do with it.
	And it seemed like it's kind of meant to be that you guys had started out and kind of done something.
	And then a lot of relationships, even work or not, are harder, you know, especially in work, are hard to bring back together.
	You know, sometimes it doesn't happen.
	So to run it back, I think it's pretty cool.
	It kind of gives it a new power.
	It's awesome, man.
	I've never had more fun.
	It's not a job, you know?
	Yeah.
	It's like I get to talk to my friends.
	Come down.
	That's cool.
	Yeah, dude.
	I'm going to come down.
	We'll ask you questions.
	Yeah, I'd love to, man.
	And bring the rest of your kids.
	Make no mistake.
	They'll be there.
	They'll be there.
	Oh, yeah.
	Really?
	Well, these guys are in college.
	I have another one that's in college in Colorado.
	Another one that lives in Florida.
	Damn.
	He's out of college.
	They want to be rich, bro, to have all them kids, dog.
	You got a busy dick, right?
	Yeah, boy.
	Damn.
	Well, no, it was a pleasure to meet you, and it was a pleasure to meet you out.
	I love everything you got.
	You got a busy dick.
	All right.
	Good to see you guys.
	Look, these things never end well, man.
	These things never end well, man.
	It's like a first marriage, man.
	These things just are what they are.
	Not a fan of the clothes.
	I'm glad they.
	Don't go away mad.
	Just go away.
	No stalkers.
	This is our new podcast, No Stalkers.
	There you go.
	And thank you guys, man.
	And yeah, I'd love to come on, man.
	I'll just come on in February, hopefully, if you guys will have me.
	Yep.
	Awesome.
	Thanks.
	Cheers, man.
	Now I'm just falling on the breeze.
	And I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
	I must be called the stone.
	When I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it In my bones But it's gonna take A little time For me to set that parking brake And let myself unwind Shine that light on me I'll sit and
	tell you my story Shine on me And I will find a song I will sing it just for you And I've been moving way too fast On the runaway train With a heavy load of my hands
	And I'll see you next time In these worlds that I've been robbing on, the walls so thin, that they're damn near gone.
	I guess now they just weren't built to lay.
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