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Nov. 17, 2020 - This Past Weekend - Theo Von

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E307 A Female Trucker

Theo sits down with a real-deal female trucker to discuss life on the open road, crazy truck stop stories, lot lizards and a whole lot more. New Merch https://theovonstore.com This episode is brought to you: Mint Mobile: https://mintmobile.com/theo GrubHub: https://www.grubhub.com Bridge Credit Solutions: https://bridgecreditsolutions.com/theo Manscaped: https://manscaped.com/theo Music: “Shine” - Bishop Gunn http://bit.ly/Shine_BishopGunn Hit the Hotline 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: http://bit.ly/TPW_VideoHotline Find Theo Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiEKV_MOhwZ7OEcgFyLKilw Producer Nick https://instagram.com/realnickdavis Associate Producer: Sean Dugan https://www.instagram.com/seandugan/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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	Today's guest we've been waiting on and we're happy that she's able to finally put it in park long enough to come and be here with us.
	She is female trucker and that interstate bad girl, Ginger.
	Shine that light on me.
	I'll sit and tell you my stories.
	Shine on me.
	And I will find a song I've been singing just before.
	What type of...
	What type of hauls will you be on now?
	So how long have you been doing trucking and then what type of hauls will you be on?
	I've been doing it for about nine years now, almost nine March, I think.
	Okay.
	And we haul just about everything from like Woodford whiskey.
	Oh, yeah, I love whiskey.
	You may used to.
	We might haul Scott's Miracle Grove Dirt.
	Oh, yeah.
	Just depends on who's calling for what.
	So we haul a lot of AAK, which is like edible oils, oil flakes or the oil in the bottles or hardened grease like the lard stuff.
	We deliver it to places that use it for baking and cooking.
	Oh, wow, really?
	So you'll deliver it to where like places in the Midwest kind of or?
	No, we're mostly east.
	Okay.
	All the East Coast.
	So what's the longest haul that you'll go out on?
	Like whenever you get your, you work for a, you're a subcontractor, I guess?
	No, I just work for the company, you know, just an employee there.
	And I don't own any of the equipment.
	Okay.
	I just keep it nice so it, you know, it looks good parents-wise.
	But basically, every truck, they've all been good trucks.
	You know, they haul good stuff.
	You know, it's not nothing that we've hauled that's been nasty or bad.
	We do haul some carbide on flatbeds, but I ain't messing with that.
	And what is that?
	It's a chemical that's explosive if it's wet.
	So do you get paid more if you're hauling something like that?
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Because that's a hazardous material that you're hauling.
	You have to have an endorsement on your license to do that.
	And they'll adjust the plates.
	Like on the back of the trucks, a lot of times you'll see those plates.
	You bring those up.
	Those are placards.
	Okay, and so what are those, what are those plates, what does that mean?
	What are those?
	It's different types of flammables, explosives, corrosives, whether it's gas or fumes or if it gets wet, it could be explosive.
	So it depends on what the material is.
	And who adjusts those plates?
	Like, do you adjust those?
	Yeah, these are the ones right here.
	Yeah.
	So yeah, like, do you have all of those plates on your car and they're all on your rig and they're all adjustable or you only have some of those?
	How does that work?
	They're like, say you got one of the diamonds and it turns like cards.
	So you can pick the one you need and you'll latch it to where it'll show what it is, an oxidizer or, you know, it's organic peroxide or radioactive or poison.
	It'll have that on there.
	I see.
	So it's all built into there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And you league, do you adjust this or does the company, whenever you take off with the load, how does that work?
	We find out what it is that we're hauling first.
	And they usually explain it on your bills, bill of leadings, and it'll tell you what to put on there, which placard you have to have.
	Because you got to have it shown in four places, which is the trailer, the both sides, and the doors.
	Because DOT will pull you over, right?
	Oh, yeah.
	They get happy with that shit.
	Sometimes they get bored.
	Oh, no.
	Looking for something.
	I had an asshole one time pulling into a way station, literally.
	And he's standing out there.
	First time I'd ever seen this.
	And he kind of looks like just this little short shit.
	Like Elmer Fat.
	Yeah.
	He's thumping everybody's tires as you're pulling in.
	I was like, okay, I'm cool.
	You know, I'm good.
	Comes up to me.
	And what is he doing?
	Hitting them for what?
	Seeing if there's cocaine, like drugs in them?
	To make sure that they're aired up.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, guess what?
	I had a fucking flat.
	No.
	Yeah.
	Drive tire.
	Didn't even know it.
	What happened was as I was pulling in, I ran over a freaking bolt as big as my phone.
	Oh, damn.
	So it wasn't even hot yet because when I pulled in and he's, you know, he's showing me the tire's wiggling off the rim and I'm sitting there just ready to just scream.
	So I was like, fuck.
	You know, hell here?
	You know, and he's like, well, you can't leave till you get it fixed.
	So I'm calling the shop and I'm letting them know what's going on.
	And one of them throws a fit.
	One of the guys you work for?
	Yeah.
	I was like, what am I supposed to do?
	You know, radar every damn thing on the road today.
	Yeah.
	I didn't sleep.
	Next time I'll dodge the nails and bolts.
	You got to bolt at 1220.
	Yeah.
	No, but got it fixed and rolled on.
	They didn't give me no ticket or nothing.
	You know, they can be assholes.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah, definitely.
	And do you find a lot of the officers and stuff that you encounter out there, a lot of them are men or women?
	Or is it kind of mixed out there?
	What, the police officers?
	They're mostly men.
	Yeah.
	Mostly men.
	And do they give you, you think, a different type of, like a different type of interaction because you're a female or no, you think?
	It's mixed.
	Because I actually got pulled over in Sellersburg, Indiana.
	I had a woman in front of me kept hitting her brakes.
	And when you're in the truck and you're doing 65 miles an hour, maybe 67, you know, you don't want to be behind somebody that doesn't know where the hell they're going.
	You roll right over top of them.
	Speed bump.
	Like in Mario Kars.
	Yeah, no shit.
	And anyways, I'm, you know, keep getting up on her ass and I'd back off.
	You know, she'd stop and I'd get on her ass again and back off.
	And we're all rolling.
	It's kind of busy.
	We're coming around this, I guess you call it like the crossover there, the bridge.
	Like there's a cop sitting there.
	And I had just changed lanes to keep from hitting this woman into the hammer lane.
	What is the hammer lane?
	That's the fast lane.
	Okay.
	You know, you're in the middle lane and I went to go avoid her.
	And when I went back into the middle lane, he's seen it.
	He pulls me over.
	And I was like, how are you looking when he pulls you?
	Are you looking pretty good?
	I was trying to maintain.
	I'm like, hi, how are you?
	You know, come on in, have a seat.
	You know, I was all grinning and shit.
	And then he's telling me what I did.
	And I was like, yeah, I said I was trying not to hit her.
	I said, she kept hitting her brakes.
	And he's like, I seen that.
	I was like, okay, you seen it.
	What's going on?
	This ain't bumble.
	You know, the lips starting to curl.
	And he's like, well, you know, you was in the wrong lane.
	Trucks are not allowed in the hammer lanes.
	You can't go in the fast lane.
	And he was following too close.
	Plus, she was doing 67, but I'm not going to get you for that.
	But is that true that you can't, what do you mean you can't go in the fast lane?
	You're supposed to stay in the right lane.
	Trucks are not allowed in the passing lane in the fast lane.
	It's usually the middle or the slow lane.
	So that's if there's three lanes.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Now, if there's two lanes, you can go in either one.
	Okay, but if there's three, you're not supposed to get in the far left lane.
	No.
	Ever.
	No.
	I actually got a ticket ticket, not a warning, a ticket, in Bartow, Georgia.
	Did you deserve it?
	It was my fault.
	I was in that damn lane.
	Yeah, amen.
	Yeah, it's hard to do.
	But at the same time, there was an asshole Volvo driver.
	Okay, he's in the middle lane.
	Story of my life.
	He's driving up the hill, right?
	He's taking his dear time.
	Taking his time, dude.
	Yeah.
	Slowly.
	Probably a merit trading on his face.
	I'm getting pissed.
	Yeah.
	And I was like, well, you know what?
	I was like, fuck this.
	And I got over and got in the hammer lane, started flying up the hill, right?
	Well, this Pakerhead decides he's going to speed up.
	So we're both racing nose to nose up this hill.
	We get top of the hill.
	There's sit a state trooper in the median.
	Lights immediately go on.
	I looked over at that fat guy.
	I wanted to shoot him in the face.
	I was just aggravated.
	I was like, fuck.
	So I knew he was coming.
	As soon as I seen him lights come on, I was like, okay, that's it.
	I'm done.
	So I backed off.
	I let the fat man go.
	I got over into the slow lane and the shoulder cop comes over.
	He's a younger guy.
	He's all buff and big and he's got an attitude.
	Because he opens the door and he's looking at me like, well, you're going to say something or what?
	And I was like, huh.
	He's like, you know why I pulled you over?
	I said, yeah, probably because I was in that damn hammer lane over there.
	And he goes, yeah, yeah.
	It's clearly marked that trucks are not allowed.
	I said, but I was trying to pass that fat guy into Volvo.
	He didn't care.
	Hell no.
	He wrote me a ticket.
	He's like, you got to pay this.
	And I called him the day that I got the ticket.
	And I was like, can I go ahead and pay this now?
	And get it off my back.
	And no, it's not even in the computer yet, honey.
	You're going to have to wait.
	Isn't that so ridiculous?
	Like, you got to wait nine.
	And they try to get you, I think, so you'll forget about it, kind of.
	Yeah.
	So they can find you some more.
	Yeah.
	You got to wait till it snows.
	One time they told me you got to wait till it snows.
	You can't pay it till it snows outside.
	I'm like, what in the fucking does that got to do with anything?
	Yeah.
	I need to pay this damn.
	Who gives a shit what it's doing outside?
	I want to pay this.
	We got a question from a caller right here.
	This isn't live, just so you know.
	This is a video someone sent in.
	Let's take this question here for Ginger.
	What up, Theo?
	This past weekend, what up?
	Female trucker guest wanted to ask, do you ever cut people off out of revenge?
	I see it all the time on the road.
	I feel bad.
	You guys get cut off a lot.
	My wife's cut you guys off.
	She felt bad about it.
	But yeah, we know there's a lot of road rage, especially here in California, Central Valley, California.
	We love you over here, by the way.
	But yeah, do you cut people off out of revenge?
	Gang, Honk Honk.
	There you go, Jing.
	You're on the hotel.
	I'm going to be straight up honest about that.
	I've wanted to.
	You know, and there's times when it's like, you know, I'm going to show you.
	Oh, some little rich bitch in a damn semi-no.
	Sometimes it's other semi-trucks.
	A damn Lexus or whatever.
	And it gets kind of scary sometimes.
	Oh, it's other semis.
	Yeah.
	It's cars as well.
	Semi-trucks.
	It's not like it used to be.
	Because when I was growing up, I always felt like there was a strong sense of camaraderie.
	In my neighborhood, everybody had like a ham radio, you know, or a trans, what is it called?
	CB.
	Like a CB radio.
	Yeah.
	Date men that had CBs, and so we always had CBs around.
	Everybody in our neighborhood had a CB in their car.
	So sometimes if you weren't doing anything, you just go sit in your car and just talk to people going by on the interstate.
	It's not like it no more.
	And it would seem like there was a lot of camaraderie between the truckers out there.
	It's not.
	You could know.
	You could actually be coming up on traffic.
	It's stopping bumper to bumper.
	All you see is brake lights.
	And you'll get on the radio and be like, hey, has anybody got their ears on?
	Let me know what's going on up there.
	Well, can't you read the goddamn sign?
	It was only about 10 miles back.
	And it's like, shut the fuck up.
	I just asked a simple question.
	And it starts getting heated.
	Really?
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I told Jeffrey, I said, my son, I got the benefit.
	It's like I've been in the truck before and honestly be holding a steering wheel.
	I got the power.
	And turn it off.
	Oh, you can just shut it down.
	I don't have to listen to you, bitch.
	I turn this thing off.
	People are rude.
	You know, just rude.
	So there's not a sense of camaraderie.
	There's not as much of a sense of coronaroid.
	It's almost cutthroat anymore.
	And I didn't see that when I was a kid when my dad was driving.
	Because back then we were allowed as kids, me and my two brothers.
	We would climb in the back seat of the, or the back bed of the pickup truck, ride down I-65 to Deems Lake in Indiana, go swimming and stuff, and get back in the, you know, in the pickup and ride back, you know, do all this to all these trucks, you know, hey.
	It was part of life.
	Yeah.
	You don't hardly see that anymore.
	And then people cutting you off all the time.
	But no, you got to think of it.
	My teacher told me this when I was in school.
	Every vehicle, whether it's a semi, a car, motorcycle, whatever, picture little kids in it.
	So that gets drilled in your head.
	It's almost like a mental picture you have right off the bat.
	But if them little kids is assholes, if they're on their canvas.
	Oh, yeah.
	I've seen them, you know, and like pick their nose, throw boogers at, you know, it can be mean, but most of the time the little kids are just got the little fist going, you know, and they're just laying on the, I've scared the shit out of bus drivers.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's fun.
	It is?
	What kind of bus are you talking?
	Are we talking Greyhound?
	Are we talking?
	School bus.
	Oh, yeah.
	Anybody could do that.
	With little kids, you got a whole row of little kids all grinning at you, staring out the window.
	You're riding right alongside of them, you know.
	And you're a woman, Too.
	So little kids, you know, kind of just little, little more.
	Yeah.
	And I'm just giving that horn hell, you know, entertaining them.
	And the whole time, the bus driver's like, holy shit, holy shit, holy shit.
	I was like, oh, sorry, sorry, you know, going past her waving.
	And then finally, she rides up alongside of you and she'll toot her horn.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	The kids are having a ball.
	Do some trucks have better horns than others?
	Actually, let's go to this question.
	We got a question right here that came in from a fellow that's staying safe.
	Supple Varns, brother Mal, real Nick Davis.
	This is Jordan from up in Portland.
	Sorry about the face mask.
	My service is about to be here to take my orders.
	Got a question for the truck driver.
	This signal here, do you recognize that?
	As a kid, we used to do it all the time to get the semi-truck drivers to honk their horns.
	Do you see that anymore?
	I haven't really seen kids doing that these days.
	I haven't done it, so let me know.
	Thank you for your service.
	Appreciate you, Gang, Gang.
	Gang.
	Yeah, we don't see a lot of, I'm not on the roads that much.
	So when I used to drive to comedy club, you know, have to drive around to them and stuff, I would be on the roads a lot.
	So I'm not on the roads as much, but that's a good question.
	Do you still see it?
	Sometimes, yeah.
	And I've actually had adults that have rode along, young adults that have rode up alongside of me and get me to do that.
	And they'll start clapping and they're like, yeah, yeah.
	It's like, yeah.
	Just reliving their past a little.
	Yeah, I guess.
	That are just, you know, like to actually like to hear the air horns blow.
	You know, because it's a lot different than the city horn.
	It's toot toot.
	So there's different.
	So you have different horns in there.
	Two.
	Okay, take me through that.
	One's an air horn.
	That's the string one that you pull.
	Okay.
	Is it a real string?
	What does it look like?
	Yeah, it's a string.
	Okay.
	And it just pulls it.
	I guess it releases from the, what do you call them?
	Hydraulics.
	Yeah.
	And it just blows through and it creates like a train sound.
	Sounds like a train engine.
	Okay.
	Aww.
	That's cool.
	How many, are there a lot of women out there in the sport?
	No.
	I've seen more since I was a kid, but it's still like a 50 to 1 ratio.
	It's still over, you know, it's men dominated.
	That's just the way it is.
	You're going to do it.
	You're going to have to blend in with them.
	You have to.
	And what does that mean when you say blend in with them?
	Well, do you mind the story?
	No.
	A little story?
	I got time for it.
	Example.
	To blend in, you would take, you know, like things that they say as insults, cry about it, get upset, you know, kind of pucker up like a girl, you know, mousy.
	Why did you say that?
	There's no room for that.
	Right.
	No, there's not.
	And, you know, I'm walking up to the truck stop and I was getting fuel.
	I wanted to get some coffee.
	So I walk in and this big guy opens up the door for me.
	He's like, nice tits.
	And I looked over at him and I was like, nice tits.
	And I walked in and he had bigger boobs than I did.
	He had some freaking heaters on him, huh?
	Yeah, I have to do that.
	Like, I'm walking out with hot dogs.
	And this guy's like, you want to come in and see my hot dog?
	I got a hot dog for you.
	And I was like, well, you shut the hell up.
	I said, I'm going to go eat my lunch before I throw up on it.
	And then just went to my truck and ate my hot dogs.
	Part of it's obviously that's messed up.
	But at the same time, part of it's kind of funny.
	It is funny.
	And you people watch a lot too, especially when you're sitting, you got a 10-hour break.
	You can drive 14 hours.
	11 of that's driving.
	Three hours is on duty, not driving.
	Okay, so what does that mean?
	Take me through some of that.
	So the rule is you can drive for how long?
	11 hours.
	11 hours straight?
	No, no.
	You can drive up to 8, but before the 8, you have to take a 30-minute break.
	Okay.
	Before that.
	Once you've took your 30-minute break, it'll reset it to where that you've got extra time to drive.
	And you usually approximately have maybe 4 to 5 more to drive and you're done.
	And it can't total any more than 14. That's on duty.
	Not driving is usually like fueling, washing your truck windshield off, or any repairs that might be needed.
	That's on duty.
	Okay, and so you'll take, so you might drive seven hours and there's five hours and then say, okay, I'm going to take my half hour break.
	Yes.
	I'm going to take a half hour break now.
	Yes.
	And then how much more can you drive before you take another break?
	You'll only be allowed maybe five, maybe six more.
	It just depends on, you know, how you run before.
	And once that happens, you have to take a 10-hour break.
	Okay, so I'm just going to, just, because I'm not good at a lot, so I'm going to ask again.
	So out of 14 hours, you can only drive 11 of them.
	Right.
	And then after that 14-hour space, you have to take a 10-hour break.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So within 14 hours, you need to take three hours break.
	Yes.
	Total.
	Total.
	And then after that, you need to take a 10-hour break.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And is that good because you're glad to have the breaks or is it bad because you're trying to make time?
	No, when you take your 30-minute break, it's actually, you know, you can break anytime you want, actually.
	Like, sometimes I'll stop after I've drove about four hours and I'll take a 15-minute break just to stretch my legs, get out, walk, you know, maybe get a drink or pee, and then get back in the truck.
	You drive another, say, three and a half more hours before the eight's up.
	And I'll take a 30. That's when I'll have my lunch or I'll play a video game on my phone or just, you know, just walk around, anything.
	Oh, because before eight hours, you have to also take a break?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You have to.
	Okay.
	That's the law required.
	It has to be a 30-minute break.
	Okay.
	So within every 14 hours, you can only drive 11. Right.
	And every eight hours, you have to take a break.
	Yes.
	I got it.
	Yes.
	Then once you pull over for the night and it's time to take your 10-hour break, you can rest area or truck stop.
	There's times when I've pulled over onto a ramp, you know, as you're getting back on the interstate.
	That way when I wake up, I can just take off.
	Keep your crew.
	Yeah, a lot of times, yeah, you will see trucks that are just right there on the side.
	I always wonder what's going on.
	I usually thought sex or drugs.
	No, not for me.
	I'll pull my curtains.
	I got the truck running.
	I just set my temperature where I want it, you know, especially like in the, I like the AC on.
	So I'll dim all my lights inside and make sure my doors are locked.
	And depending on the area, sometimes I'll actually like use my seat belt, latch it over the door handle and lock it so that you can't open the door no matter what you do.
	Yeah.
	And then once that, you get back here, pull the curtain, pull back my covers.
	I got my microwave, I got a Keurig for coffee, I got a TV set up in there, put DVDs in it, or I've got a cord that hooks up to my iPhone and I can watch movies.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah, I got home movies in a little cabinet that I can watch, and I'll sit back here and eat, you know, smoke a cigarette, watch TV, and set my alarm, go to bed.
	That's it.
	And so now, are there times that you will, so I'm guessing that your truck has a facility, a space in there you can get some rest?
	Oh, yeah.
	Plenty.
	It's actually got bunk beds in there.
	Okay.
	The bottom one is like a full to twin.
	Can you pull that up for us on Freightliner cabin or what would we bring up?
	You think what would we do?
	Oh, just an inside cab, Freightliner, and look up maybe bunk or sleeper berth.
	That actually would be better.
	Look up sleeper berth.
	And it'll show you this because you got a bed up the top that you can fold back against the wall if you're not using it.
	So it leaves that space open for you.
	Or you could pull it down if you had somebody with you and you stop.
	You let them hang out up there and sleep.
	But you don't put them up there while you're driving.
	Right.
	Because they could actually fall out.
	Yeah, that sounds a little risky.
	Now, which one of these do you think seems like yours here, Ginger?
	Okay, that's...
	Yeah.
	It's kind of like that inside.
	Okay.
	Because it's got the bunk beds and it's got cabinet space.
	And then I've got a spot for the microwave refrigerators right underneath of it.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, it's nice.
	You got enough room.
	That's where I actually learned to dance for his wedding.
	It was in my truck.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	I couldn't be with him, me and him, to learn the dance together.
	So I practiced inside of my truck.
	So Jeff sent you a video and showed you how to do it?
	Well, it was part of the movie Pulp Fiction.
	Oh, wow.
	Where John Travolta and what's her name?
	What's her name?
	Shit.
	Karen.
	Yeah, Uma Thurman.
	Uma Thurman.
	Yeah, when they danced together in that restaurant they were at.
	That's what me and Hill did as mother and son for his wedding.
	So you learned that in your trucks.
	You could stand up and learn that in the truck.
	Oh, yeah.
	There's enough room in that cab to do that.
	And so now there's a lot of, oh yeah, there it is right there.
	That's cool.
	That's awesome.
	And I was learning that in the truck because most of it is just the twist.
	So you're not flailing yourself all over the place.
	You know, you could get hurt in there.
	Yeah, I could imagine that.
	Yeah, for people that don't know, your son is Jeff, right?
	And he's been, he came in the podcast a while back, breasted Jeff, right?
	And he had, I guess, just extra meat on his breast.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I hate it for him.
	But hell, man.
	Pretty cool, really, kind of, you know, in some ways, but a really great guy.
	And he's kept in touch with the podcast.
	And it was awesome that he just kind of, he's like, oh, I know a woman who'd be perfect for this.
	Yeah, he told me about it.
	And I was just ecstatic.
	I was like, really?
	Me?
	You know, because you kind of like the, you feel like the little kid at the school.
	Somebody picked me.
	It's me.
	Cool.
	It's cool.
	Yeah, my mom delivers now just for Amazon.
	But she's always been like a hard worker, you know, always been, you know, did her own thing, you know, wanted to work for herself.
	And it seems like you kind of have some of that attitude, you know?
	Well, I like the trucking thing.
	You do?
	Yeah.
	But I started it a little later than most.
	Because you wanted to have children first?
	Yeah.
	Well, I had my kids first, and that was the most important thing.
	And what were you doing during those years?
	Staying home and trying to maintain the bills and taking care of them.
	And it was good.
	It was financially tough as hell.
	Yeah.
	You know, being pretty much single.
	But it got by.
	We got by.
	So.
	Yeah.
	And then I told them, I was like, when I get, you know, stable, things will be better.
	And it has been.
	Money's great.
	It's a good job.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	$1,200 a week, bring home after taxes.
	Oh, wow.
	That's great.
	It's nice money.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
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	And suddenly she wants a couple crab legs or something like that.
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	I do work my ass off.
	Yeah.
	So where do you think that work ethic came from, you think?
	Actually, not having nothing.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Nothing gets handed to you.
	And if it does, there's a catch to it.
	Oh, there always is.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	There's always that catch.
	So for me to have something, got to work.
	And once they were old enough and I didn't need babysitters and, you know, diapers and bottles, and they could pretty much, once they're in high school, take care of themselves.
	Oh, once they can make a pot of macaroni, you can get something to do.
	Well, he's a good cook.
	My oldest boy, Jeff, he's a good cook.
	Yes, he is.
	So he, you know, he helped out a lot too.
	So, yeah, it went good.
	That's cool.
	Yeah.
	Was there another line of work that you wanted to get into?
	It was always trucking.
	I know you mentioned that from growing up.
	You said from your dad was in the business.
	Was there another line of work that you thought about?
	Not really.
	I did try a concrete mixer.
	You drove one of those?
	Yeah.
	It didn't go very well.
	I started in November.
	And the old chutes that you used to let the concrete roll down were like 45 pounds a piece.
	So you had to hook that.
	Yeah.
	And you pick up each one.
	There's four.
	And what I'd have to do is like set it down long ways, drop down to my knees, let it drop on my shoulder, then kind of stand up from a squat and then walk it across and hook it and then do each one that way.
	And then I had to learn how to back up the truck and work the chute at the same time without overloading or spilling concrete.
	Damn.
	The people that are working by the hour, sweetest people ever.
	Take your time, take your time, we're good.
	But the white collar that was actually like the suit and tie people standing there watching you, you spill a drop and you're a piece of shit.
	Get the hell out of here.
	You don't know what you're doing.
	And so you just pull up to job sites where it's been ordered.
	Yes.
	The concrete and you say, look, I got this load.
	We're ready for it.
	Four footers to a personal person's driveway or sidewalk.
	So now, what was the first one you said?
	Not the sidewalk, the other one.
	Oh, the driveways?
	Purple's personal driveways or their little garages or footers at buildings.
	Like they're getting ready to start a big mall or something.
	And there's some tubes that go in the ground and you've got to be filled with concrete.
	Yeah.
	Dick.
	So you could handle those.
	So are there some jobs you couldn't handle with concrete where it's like they needed like part of a wall done?
	Yeah, when somebody ordered some concrete, I was actually there for this.
	There was another concrete truck that beat us to the place and it was in a residential area.
	He drives into their yard and sinks.
	Damn.
	Yeah.
	So all the concrete, it sunk up to the tank.
	So the tank couldn't stir.
	And if it can't stir, then the concrete will set.
	Damn.
	Well, it set in the truck.
	So all that got wasted.
	They'd have to jackhammer all that out of there.
	Really?
	Then they had to call a tow truck to get the truck pulled out of this person's yard that they damaged.
	He's fired.
	Yeah.
	Damn.
	Yeah, it seemed like a lot of extra risk on that job.
	Then there's just so many other variables where you could, you know, lose your nut for the day, you know.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, it's one mistake.
	I mean, a heavy truck like that with having it liquid in it, there's that surge.
	You know, you make a turn and it'll surge to the right.
	Oh, because of that volume of that.
	It'll surge to the left.
	The weight of that seat.
	You go to stop and it'll push the truck forward.
	Yeah.
	That's crazy.
	Damn, it almost makes me damn erect.
	That sounds freaking kind of sexy.
	Was it a little?
	No, I actually like the semis because in November, when you start out and you're like spraying the truck down and it's November, you're getting wet.
	I don't care where the fuck you stand.
	They'll say, oh, downwind.
	I was like, yeah, okay, whatever.
	You got to get back in the truck.
	You peel all your clothes off.
	You put them on top of the heaters.
	And you got to let them warm and dry out before you get to the next stop.
	And this is in a rig, huh?
	That's in the semi-or the concrete mixture.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And so you'll just drive in your underwear?
	You could, but put a t-shirt on or something.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You have to.
	You have to.
	Because I've sat and drove in my pajamas, and the old school truck drivers get pissed off about that.
	Really?
	Oh, yeah.
	You're supposed to be in blue jeans and cowboy boots and a tucked-in flannel shirt.
	Now, is that an actual protocol you're supposed to be in?
	No, no, that's just the older school, the older guys.
	The older ones has been driving 40 and 50 years.
	You know, that's the way that they did it.
	That's the way you should do it.
	You know, too many people out here wearing pajamas.
	Yeah.
	You know.
	Somebody out here in damn Pokemon freaking onesie.
	Exactly.
	That ain't a real stop.
	Flip-flops and pajama bottoms, or they'll come out with...
	That ain't a real damn thing.
	I've seen this lady get out of a truck one time, and I don't know how in the hell she drove like that.
	Her fingernails were like three inches long.
	Damn.
	She had on all this jewelry.
	She had this huge weave.
	She had on this fancy white outfit.
	The whole outfit was white.
	Oh, wow.
	You've got to reach under the fifth wheel.
	You've got to touch greasy, dirty shit.
	And it's like, how in the hell is he high heels that look like they're six inch spike boots?
	How can you do that?
	You can't.
	I wear tennis shoes like these.
	Maybe she had a sidekick with her.
	She got out of the truck by herself.
	You know, usually you'll see somebody in the passenger seat or you'll see the truck move around if there's somebody in the cab.
	Okay.
	You know, but you didn't.
	She just got out and I was like, ooh, fancy pants.
	Alrighty then.
	now are there some fancy ladies out there on the circuit what do you guys call it the circuit the when you you know just out the run like when you're out on the when you're on route otr or just yeah what do you call it it's it's just um hauling and you're en route you got destinations such as um you know your pickups and deliveries and you know you'll deliver here and then you'll go somewhere else clean clear across the country to pick up you know that's deadheading that's empty okay and
	then you'll go pick up there and then you could deliver somewhere else or we bring it to the yard sometimes and just drop it for the local guy to take it and what's the yard prison you mean no no it's uh the yard's like where our company is that's where our trailers are our trucks are all at where the office is the shop where they fix the trucks oh that's cool we call it the yard yeah man i bet my mom would have loved doing that job she just likes working for herself she likes you know like uh i do too yeah not having a boss standing
	over top movie 24 hours a day yeah you know worrying about what you're doing where you're at when you're coming in you yeah yeah is there a level of proof in your in your line of work that like i want to prove to men that i can do this or it has nothing in it awesome yeah yeah yes yes you and women have it i think in my opinion a little harder because we have to prove that we can drive right which has notoriously yeah been misproven by women right right especially in semi-trucks i mean we get picked on for
	driving cars especially in south korea actually also are there any and i'll just ask point blank because that's all i know is but are there any asian truck drivers have you seen any men yeah men never see asian never see asian women driving never yeah i think always the men always the men yeah and they're tiny yeah oh yeah they're so tiny little jockey little engine jockey just little tiny guys oh yeah a little nine pound fella yeah little chin yam right here a
	little night he weighs 19 pounds a little rice little rice bit yeah yeah just cruising yeah um it's a pretty now i i i've i believe that the the truck industry is getting pretty diverse there's a lot of middle eastern truck drivers now yes there is yeah and to be honest with you everybody that i have ever seen or out there that's different you know the towels and the beards you know that's not a terrorist that's the truck driver right he's gotten out and actually helped me before spot me in getting in
	a spot you know just just by there was no word communication at all he's just telling help helping me out right i didn't ask him he just volunteered and done it yeah i'm driving down the road i see them and they're like this just a waving and it's like hey what's up you know it's a pretty diverse sport though these days kind of yeah yeah because you would think i especially when i was growing up it seemed like it was just a white man kind of did it you know um or black man white or black man you see a lot of black men driving um i see some black women driving yeah
	um it's mostly white women driving because you don't see a lot of diverse women different different country women driving and it's usually just white yeah but or black um well i remember two men they had a lot of hispanics a lot of hispanic drivers oh yeah huh a whole lot um and like i said a lot of foreign a lot of foreigners that can't even speak english like middle eastern guys yeah yeah yeah because i remember reading an article a few years ago um that
	about the growing population of middle eastern men that were driving long haul yeah and it was like oh that's interesting and i guess it was because they also were buying a lot of the service stations and stuff as well so i think they're just you know one business kind of led to the other maybe oh yeah yeah it could have possibly um let's take a question right here we got a question from a beautiful young fella right here what's going on theo big fan been listening for a while and i got a question for
	the female trucker across from you so mit or somebody did some sort of study on female truckers and found that on a scale of one to ten um they ranked four point four on how safe they felt on the road so my question is what's the scariest moment or interaction you've had as a female trucker um that's a good question and how safe do you feel on a scale of one to ten on the road um big fan theo gang gang hong kong gang brother
	oh that's crazy two people did hong kong yeah what are the odds of that yeah uh that's a great question yeah what's the safety like out there um it it depends on where you're at actually um there's some places truck stops that i've stopped at and i didn't know it at the time uh but i was told once i got back obviously this didn't matter uh that i could have got shot there damn uh mugged for being a female or just anyone just anyone but also female that's the bigger target
	right you're weak um defenseless you know oh yeah if i see seven or eight people out you know wandering around at night well what if one of them is a female i'm a shot walking around you know sometimes those drivers actually think that you are a lot lizard oh yeah and you drive a truck oh yeah yeah and but now but but that would go against the grain really to be a lot lizard that also drives or do you think they have that they yeah i think they do i've actually heard about that yeah that there are women that will charge to sleep around in
	truck stops while they're driving and they're making an extra you know buck on the side yeah uh hell no i've seen some of the shit walking around out there you wouldn't hook up with it huh hell no no now do they have uh so so you said so some of the truck stops can be kind of shady yes um is there a like do you feel like is there moments where you feel like scared like you go into a place it's nate it's it's nighttime you're walking back to your truck do you guys usually park a distance
	away from the yes service station i try to keep everything i need in the truck so the only time i have to get out is for fuel or if i have to do a pre-trip and you you check your truck before you go now there's been times that i've gotten out and literally been so scared that i'd run back before my pre-trip was finished just that creepy ominous gut feeling that somebody's watching you yeah now take me through one more time the pre-trip what is it it's uh when you get out and
	your truck's running you check your oils you check all your fluids you make sure your turning signals work you know the pressure in your tires make sure everything's just smooth and you walk it and You make sure your airlines are all hooked up.
	You walk your truck, you check everything.
	Yes, everything.
	Make sure the doors are still locked and loaded, you know, fastened, and then come back around.
	And once it's all done, usually it takes about 20 minutes.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	So you want to check everything.
	Now, do you use a pressure gauge when you're checking the tires?
	No, usually I'll just thump them.
	I'll take a hammer and hit them.
	Now, you can tell the way it bounces off that they're pretty full.
	But if you hear a thud and it doesn't bounce, usually that means it's flat or it's going flat.
	Okay.
	So it's kind of like what you look for.
	And how many wheels do you actually have on it?
	18. Damn.
	18. I knew it.
	Oh, yeah.
	Two steers.
	So you got two, four, six, eight drives.
	And then the rest are all trailer.
	So what do you mean?
	So you got eight drives.
	So it's an eight-wheel.
	Yeah.
	So it's eight-wheel drives.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's one.
	Yeah.
	See, one, two, three, four.
	See, one, two, three, three, four.
	I'm trying to think.
	Yeah, no, it's tricky.
	No, it's if he could pull up a picture of the trucks, he can actually count because it is 18 total.
	But I'm trying to, like, I got a brain fart going on here.
	Yeah, there you go.
	There was a perfect picture right there.
	Okay, there's the bottom of this one.
	Up there at the top?
	Next to the red one?
	There you go.
	That's it.
	So those are your...
	Eight drives, yes.
	And the ten are just trailer?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	So now if you take the trailer off, then you're an eight-wheeler.
	Yeah.
	No, it's ten on the cab, honey.
	Oh, it is?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Ten total.
	You got two in the front and then eight in the back, so it's ten on the cab.
	Okay, so two in the front.
	Eight on the trailer.
	Yes.
	That's where I was trying to think something don't sound right.
	Wait a minute.
	Hang on.
	Hang on.
	Let me think.
	Yeah.
	I was thinking you had four in the front.
	Yeah, I really went wrong there.
	Yeah, you got two stairs.
	Two up front and then eight on the back of the whole case.
	It's called a bobtail.
	A bobtail.
	Bobtail.
	That's your whole cab with no trailer.
	Okay.
	It's a bobtail.
	So that's a bobtail.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's cool.
	Okay, so you get to a service station.
	You do your pre-trip.
	Before you take off to what?
	Leave or to go into the service station or whatever?
	No, it's before you leave.
	Like if you're fixing to take off anywhere.
	Okay.
	Like you just got a new load you're getting ready to take off with picked up.
	Or say you're waking up in the morning after your 10-hour break.
	That's when you really want to check it because there's people that will unhook your airlines while you're sleeping.
	Damn.
	Or they'll pull your fifth wheel pin.
	Why?
	And just to be a jerk.
	And if they pull that pin and you take off and you ain't checked it, your whole trailer will drop right off.
	And your cables will still be hooked and ripped.
	Oh, yeah.
	They'll rip right out.
	That happened to me at the gas station all the time.
	I'll put that gas in, fill that bastard up, take off, baby.
	It costs you $170.
	I'll tell you that.
	Praise God.
	I've spent almost $800 ripping them bitches off.
	And you don't get to keep the thing.
	You got to give the thing back.
	Yeah, they always want that little pump thingy back.
	I don't think they're going to get the bastard.
	Yeah, they went with it.
	Just hateful, man.
	It's big business, you know.
	We've seen trucks that like them so much, they've took them with them, too.
	Imagine.
	We want a souvenir from the truck stop.
	How long does it take to fill up a truck when you go to fill up gas?
	And are y'all on diesel?
	What do y'all run on?
	Diesel fuel.
	Okay.
	Diesel fuel only.
	And then you've got the death, which is diesel-efficient fuel.
	And it smells like cow piss.
	Is that two different types of fuel?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so tell me, so tell me about that.
	So can you pull into just like a Exon and get some gas or no?
	No, because our company uses the points for pilots and flying J's.
	Okay, so you pull into those specific stations?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, now if it's emergency fuel, we can use a TA or Petro or a Loves, but he prefers us using those because he gets extra bonus on the points.
	So we go there and use those.
	And it usually takes about 10 minutes to fuel it up completely.
	And I think it's 250 gallons.
	Yeah.
	So, dude, if you get in an accident, you're going to die.
	Oh, yeah.
	You're going swimming in some diesel fuel.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	That's wild.
	When you were, do a lot of, are there a lot of swingers out there on the road?
	Because I would imagine couples go ride together sometimes.
	Do you see that?
	Yeah, there's husband and wife teams a lot.
	And like I had when I started, I had male trainers.
	Okay.
	For me, it was easier just to listen to a guy.
	You know, I don't think two girls cooped up in a truck is a good idea.
	Oh, well, two women died that did it in that game movie.
	Yeah, Thelma Louise.
	Them bitches died, man.
	So you're probably right about that, you know.
	But yeah, I think, you know, I won't even have the, if there's someone is driving me in an Uber or anything like that and they have the female voice on the phone, I'll have them turn it off or change it.
	It reminds me of my mother's voice, I think, or just reminds me of some lady's voice.
	Tom.
	And I told Father Ma I was going to fire his ass several times.
	Yeah.
	Forgetting me in the places I ain't supposed to be with a semi-truck.
	Yeah.
	Tom, you're an asshole.
	Do you keep the voice on the whole time?
	Do you shut it down?
	No, I have to shut him off.
	He gets on my nerves.
	I've wanted to sling him out the window before.
	Yeah.
	You know, speed warning.
	Speed warning.
	Speed warning.
	So hell no.
	Shut up.
	Yeah.
	How fast can you go in the rigs?
	72. That's the top speed.
	There's a limit on it.
	Yes, it's governed.
	It's as fast as it'll go.
	Now, if you're going downhill, that's a different story.
	You can get it in neutral and let it open up.
	You can just leave it in the gear.
	It's in 10th gear, but if you're heavy and you can't control it, stop and doing that.
	Really?
	But I've let it cruise about 75. Amen.
	Rock and roll.
	Let's live a little.
	Get there.
	Got to get there.
	Put on some ACD seats, putt it up.
	Yeah.
	Hold the steering wheel, greet the cheese.
	Yeah.
	What do you listen to while you're in there?
	Oh, all different kinds of shit.
	There's some Clandonia music that I listen to.
	It's Irish.
	Yeah.
	And it's bagpipes and drums.
	Oh, wow.
	And that'll get you shit pumped because you're driving and it just, you know, it'll get you hyped up where you're really seriously going.
	It's like Clandonium, it's called?
	Yeah, Clandonia.
	Clandonia?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And it's straight up Irish.
	And it's like the Titanic music that I listen to when they're in the lower deck.
	Oh, yeah.
	And they're partying.
	It's kind of like that, but it's basically just drums and bagpipes.
	You're like damn William Wallace out there.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And the truck is my sword.
	Yeah.
	Do you keep a weapon on you?
	Yeah, I got some old sea spray for my son.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And a hammer works really well.
	Okay.
	Guns?
	No.
	We could have one, but I don't really want it personally in the company truck.
	Yeah.
	You know, our boss is pretty lenient about it, but he's not giving us the okay.
	It's like you can protect yourself, but I don't really want to know about it.
	Okay.
	You know, and he's a good guy.
	Here's a fella right here that also owns an animal, and they got a question.
	Oh, animals.
	Hey, yo, what up, Theo?
	What up, guest?
	My question is, is there equivalent male lot lizards for female truckers?
	Anyway, gang gang, bro.
	Gang, baby, that's a great question.
	Yeah, how much sensuality is out there on the lot.
	Really?
	Yes.
	There's a couple of places in Indiana that's way up north.
	Way up north.
	There's a truck stop that's really bad about it.
	And they will just pound the shit out of your door.
	And they're men?
	Women.
	Women.
	Mostly women.
	And they're showing up for sex.
	Yeah.
	No, I ain't sticking my head out like Curtin.
	Yeah.
	Because if it happens to be a man, I really don't want them knowing that there's a woman in the truck.
	Right.
	So I just keep to myself back there.
	Will you do a man's voice or something?
	It's like, oh, I've done that.
	Fuck off.
	You're pretty good.
	Yeah, pretty good.
	Fuck off.
	And it'll work.
	It'll work.
	You just keep the lights off.
	And you don't let them know that you're prancing around in there.
	You just don't make yourself known.
	You just try to keep to yourself, keep doors locked.
	So you feel pretty safe once you're locked up and everything's locked down for the night.
	You feel pretty safe in there.
	Yeah, the riots had me scared, though.
	Yeah.
	Because I was worried about the busting of the windshield, the busting of the side windows.
	Because then they can climb right in.
	Yeah, the sad thing is every time you see one of those riot videos, they're always stopping a rig.
	Yeah, yeah, but I've seen them pull the drivers out of there.
	Oh, yeah.
	And that's scary.
	And the boss has told us what to do.
	You know, if that ever happened.
	He's like, you pull up, you blow your horn, you let them know to get off.
	He's like, don't ever roll your windows down.
	Keep your doors locked.
	And he said, turn on your flashers.
	He said, you call the police on your headset, but you continuously keep moving.
	Do not stop.
	And if somebody's so stupid to stand in front of your truck and get squashed, then that's what's going to happen.
	You know, if you stop, then you're setting yourself up to get hurt.
	Yeah.
	Even if they're just protesting, there are some of them that are out to just party.
	They don't want Black Life Matter or any Life Matter.
	This is totally, I want your shit in that truck.
	They want your life not to matter.
	Give me your money.
	I want your radio.
	I can get this.
	I can get that.
	And as your truck is just slowly rolling away and they're getting a crap beat out of you, it's also getting stripped on the inside.
	And then, you know, by the time you get back to it, you know, half bleeding and dead, you're like, what the hell?
	You can't even drive back.
	Somebody get me.
	You know, so that's, that did spook me.
	But that's a good plan, though.
	Flash is going.
	Contact the police on the headset and just keep it cruising.
	Yep.
	Use the low speed.
	You don't try to fly through like they're bowling pins, you know.
	Yeah.
	Which you'd like to.
	Just cartoons, you know, watch them just fly left and right as you plow through.
	Oh, man.
	I definitely take on some Antifa, son.
	Yeah.
	You know, they run four or eight rigs through that park up there in Portland.
	I think they'd have to.
	Did you ever see the video on the internet where the FedEx driver was, or it was UPS, I can't remember which, but was when it first started the riots?
	This guy was climbing all over this truck, and it was threatening.
	You bring that up, Sean?
	And the FedEx truck took off, and the guy actually got pinned in the wheels as the truck's rolling.
	People are screaming for him to stop.
	Why would he stop?
	They were climbing all over him.
	There was like 20 people all over this.
	I've seen these days how suddenly you defend yourself.
	Little kids on a jungle gym.
	It was really scary.
	And I cried for the person that got rolled over.
	I did.
	I felt bad.
	It was a horrible video.
	But at the same time, I'd have done the same thing as that FedEx driver.
	Had to.
	You don't know what they would have done to him?
	You know, to get whatever he's carrying.
	Yeah, I'm not dying.
	St. Louis man dies are being dragged by FedEx driver.
	That's it.
	Yeah.
	They may have cut it because it was pretty violent.
	I don't know if they clipped it or not.
	But yeah, man, you're doing your job.
	Somebody interferes because they have some social justice issue.
	What is FedEx?
	This is just thieves.
	This is just people stealing.
	These people aren't about anything.
	This isn't about anything.
	Right.
	I think this is pretty much it, but this was pretty sad.
	The guy got in.
	See how he's got the double trailers?
	He got in between the two of them.
	He got in between the two of them and got wedged in there.
	And he got drugged quite a ways before the video.
	I just wonder what your mindset is because I've been in mindsets where I feel like I need to stand up for myself or I feel like I need some sort of, I want to act out for some sort of justice.
	But then also going in between two semi-trucks just doesn't seem like where I'm going to find any of that.
	Right.
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	Have you met any men out there?
	Now, will you be on apps dating men, meeting men in different cities?
	Do you have a couple of little songbirds out there that you let on the branch every now and then?
	No, no, I got somebody at home, and you get approached by all different kinds of men out there.
	They'll use all different reasons to try to get your phone number.
	Now, what is some of that?
	Take me through a little bit of that.
	One of them is, hey, I like the trucks y'all are driving.
	Just tell me about your company.
	Are they hiring?
	Can I have their phone number?
	It's like, sure.
	So I write down Carrin's number, you know, and give it to him and tell him to talk to Nick.
	You know, he gets you a job.
	We're always hiring.
	They don't call.
	They're not calling for.
	Well, can I have your number to let you know how it's going?
	I said, hell no.
	What the fuck you want my number for?
	Damn.
	He's like, and that's exactly what he said.
	That's what I would have said.
	Damn, Dennis.
	Same thing.
	He jumped back just like, he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	And I was like, but what do you need my number for?
	And he's like, well, I was just going to let you know how, you know, the process is going.
	I said, they'll do that.
	Thank you very much.
	You're a shark on them.
	Now, do you hear any stories about there's places that's popular for swingers and stuff?
	Because I would imagine, here's what I'm saying, is if you're taking a spouse out there, if you're a man and you have a female sidekick with your wife, you know, or whatever it is called, and I can't imagine y'all aren't doing swinging.
	And there's a lot of swinging out there in the Midwest, too, especially in Missouri.
	Do you encounter any of that?
	Hey, do you hear any stories of it?
	Is there any?
	No, actually, if there's mostly what I see is men that are single out there picking up the lot lizards.
	Okay.
	You know, and they'll get what they want and then send them on their way.
	Then they stop to the next truck.
	Is it blowjobbing?
	Is it oral sex?
	Do you know what it is?
	He doesn't even know.
	It just, I guess it would depend on the girl and how much money he wants to spend.
	But yeah.
	Do you know the rates on any of it?
	No.
	I wouldn't want to.
	Because it's literally like you got to worry about them girls sometimes because I've been told that they can actually lay underneath your trailer.
	And as you're coming out to say, if you're a man, you're standing out there taking a piss.
	They cut your ankle.
	They can cut you.
	Cut you in the back of the ankle like on the hostel.
	Rob your ass, just like hostile.
	And that's, you got to watch them.
	I've watched them at night when I'm just pulling in and it's two o'clock in the morning.
	And it's been raining.
	I'll see, you know, it's actually raining.
	There's a woman walking around in a pair of shorts and high heels.
	And she's tapping back over.
	Well, it's dark.
	Can't really tell.
	That helps.
	But you see her, you know, going from door to door to door to truck to truck to truck.
	And then the next thing you know, she disappears for about 20 minutes.
	Then she's out again.
	You'll see a light on in the truck.
	That's the dome.
	Then you know that's the dome on her.
	I know what you're doing.
	And then she'll come out, but I've seen them walk around the trucks like they're looking for shit.
	Right.
	Or maybe they're going to disconnect something or pull something.
	You got to watch them because you don't know what they're doing.
	Well, they have that famous documentary with Eileen Warnos where she wasn't she killing truckers?
	No, she actually was killing just random people that was picking her up.
	Right.
	She was prostituting herself out and just randomly picked out some dudes.
	Do you see, is there any pimping or anything like going on out there?
	Do you see anything like that?
	Do you know who's approached my trucks?
	My truck is usually men drivers.
	Other men drivers.
	Just wanting to see.
	Now, are they asking specifically for sex or just kind of flirting or just saying?
	I had a Bosnian guy.
	He told me he was from Bosnia.
	And he wanted to tell me how big and beautiful my boobs were.
	And I was like, okay, okay, you know, pretty cool.
	I mean, first of all, that is nice.
	It was in Maryland.
	You know, I'll tell you this.
	If a lady came up to my window for no reason and said, hey, man, I like this.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, this is kind of scary.
	You know, you're a girl in the truck by yourself.
	You're right.
	My bad.
	You're right.
	Anyways, he sticks his body halfway in my window.
	Okay.
	It's a beautiful day.
	I had the windows down, which is stupid.
	You don't do that.
	So he put his head in the window.
	He was in his body.
	Was in the window.
	Up to halfway.
	Yeah.
	I'm standing there making up my bed, you know, just kind of going to stretch out or watch TV.
	Yeah, the window's open.
	It's nice out.
	Nice.
	Beautiful day.
	Next thing I know, I turn around and I was like, ah, I screamed and I was like, you could get a shot like that, dude.
	What the fuck?
	Get out of my truck.
	Damn.
	And he's like, it wasn't bad looking.
	Now we're talking.
	But it's a still.
	Bring up Bosnia.
	Let me see where it is on a map, Sean.
	Yeah.
	Check it out.
	Bring up an email.
	Because I asked him if he was Russian and he got pissed at me.
	Oh, yeah, they get upset.
	He's like, oh, hell no, I'm not Russian.
	Well, just wear a sign that says Bosnian then, dude.
	Because I was like, well, where are you from?
	And he's like, Bosnia.
	We hate Russians.
	Yeah, they'll fight, man.
	They love to fight Russia.
	Yeah.
	Maybe Google Bosnian man outdoors, maybe.
	But yeah, he told me that he would hate himself if he didn't tell me that he wanted to have a good time.
	I was like, roll on, Alabama.
	I didn't know.
	No.
	The bearded guy.
	Look at him.
	Look at that guy down a little third row.
	No, I'll tell you what he looked like.
	It was more like the top roll up there and third guy.
	Not the same guy, but I mean, that's more like the picture.
	Okay.
	That's what he looked like.
	Wow.
	Handsome, kind of.
	Like you said, a little bit handsome.
	He was okay.
	Oh, yeah.
	But it was just too weird, man.
	Yeah, it's a bit of a heavy approach, you know.
	You can't do the flake thing, you know.
	It's kind of flaky.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you can't just peek in my window.
	No.
	Yeah.
	It wasn't a peek.
	It wasn't a peek, huh?
	It was not a peek.
	It was a full-blown, wow, mippa in your truck.
	You got big, beautiful boobs.
	And I was like, oh, my God.
	It's like, I'm going to hate myself if you're not have sex with me in my truck.
	Did he say that?
	Yeah, basically, yeah.
	He wanted me to get out and have sex with him in his truck.
	I was like, get the hell out of here.
	At least he really laid it out, you know.
	I guess.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Because that's a tough thing.
	On this podcast, we try to encourage young men to like at least shoot their shot, you know, but that's kind of a shady way to do it.
	Well, I'll tell you some funny stuff, too, about other episodes as well.
	We had a, I was doing a dedicated run, which is the same thing every day.
	And I was leaving from our shop, which is in Louisville, to Indianapolis, UPS.
	Okay.
	And coming back, same thing every night.
	Well, started running into the same fella in a car right up alongside of me, just grinning and a waving, you know, from his car.
	And I'm like, hey, how you doing?
	And I'm driving on, you know, next thing I know, he's blowing his horn.
	So I glance down and he's got his junk hanging out.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	His penis, huh?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, wow.
	Then he backs off.
	Okay.
	Then he comes back up alongside of me again.
	He's grinning even bigger this time.
	Oh, yeah.
	His pants are down to his knees this time.
	Okay.
	Well, I'm sitting here just driving, you know, like literally wanting to put my hand next to my face, you know, and just kiss here because I'll slow down, you know, for them to speed up.
	Then they'll go back.
	And then they'll keep alongside of me the whole time, no matter what I'm doing.
	Oh, yeah.
	Regardless of the traffic that's going on around us.
	It's just you and them in the world, huh?
	It's like all the slow dancing.
	I saw this guy five separate occasions, same stretch of 65 in Indiana.
	And I named him Jerk Off Jim.
	Oh, yeah.
	He's out there, huh?
	He painted the steering wheel.
	Did he?
	Oh, yes, he did.
	What color?
	The white.
	That body glaze, I bet.
	Damn, nasty.
	So now you can see his penis.
	Now, can you see from the truck from your side?
	Oh, yeah, it's the perfect view.
	You can see over to the driver's side.
	I can see everything.
	Wow.
	Inside of a vehicle.
	A four-wheeler.
	So if I'm driving, right, and I have my penis out.
	Yes.
	Can you, and you're in a rig?
	Yes.
	How can you see my wiener?
	Can you see it through the front window?
	No, it's from your side window, the passenger side.
	You can see from the passenger.
	You're passing me.
	Wow.
	So you're passing me in the fast lane.
	I'm in the slow lanes, two-lane highway, like I-65 is through Indiana.
	Yeah, I could see everything inside of your vehicle.
	Your back seat, front seat, driving.
	So if I put my penis out, you could see it.
	I could see everything.
	That's all.
	I could almost count the hairs.
	Oh, wow.
	Almost.
	Hell yeah.
	I didn't know y'all had such good sights.
	Oh, it's a hell of a view.
	It's the upstairs view from, you know, seeing y'all from downstairs.
	What about this?
	Do you see a lot of oral sex going on between couples occasionally?
	I'm sure you see a little bit of that sometimes.
	Yes and no.
	But most of the time, they're not like, you know, trying to ride along.
	You're right.
	They just ride on down the road.
	And it's like, oh, damn, did you see that?
	There ain't nobody in the truck with me.
	I'm just like, what the fuck?
	Have you ever had a guest in the truck, a male guest or no?
	Just, I've had my oldest son with me once, and I had my daughter with me.
	She got to ride with me once.
	And I did have a team member from work, co-worker.
	We did team for nine months, running back and forth to Miami, Florida twice a week.
	And was that enjoyable?
	Oh, hell no.
	I hated it.
	Really?
	Yes.
	Because y'all started to get on each other's nerves, I'm sure.
	Oh, oh, my God.
	I wanted to kill him.
	There's so many times that I almost left him at truck stops.
	Oh, yeah.
	And that's for you, Chris, if you ever listen to this.
	Amen, Chris.
	That's what you're saying.
	Chris, son.
	Chris Santana.
	Yeah, smacking your fucking gums while you're eating.
	Damn, bro.
	Tell everybody's toenails in the floor.
	Oh, the buddy hair in the bed sheets.
	Come on, Chris.
	Chris bottles rolling around.
	Uh-uh.
	He pee in a bottle?
	Fuck yeah.
	God.
	Water bottle re-rolling around.
	There's two water bottles.
	Well, it breaks my heart.
	Oh, it broke mine.
	Women, y'all don't, so do you guys ever pee in like a pan or something and leave it?
	In a cup.
	In a cup?
	Yeah, but as you're driving down interstate, like if you're teaming.
	Yeah.
	And they're driving and you got a pee, that window goes down and out goes the piss and you keep the cup.
	Amen.
	And what do you do with the cup?
	Just sign it and give it to somebody?
	No, you stuff a paper towel down in it, put the little top back on, you know, where the straw goes.
	And that way it keeps the smell down.
	You put it in a bag.
	I like that.
	Yeah.
	Sanitary reasons.
	Little tricks of the trade you learn as you go, huh?
	Yeah, yeah.
	We had a question that came in right here from some gentleman or, yeah, this fella right here, this happy guy right here.
	Hey, Theo, my name is Brooks, longtime listener from Florida, South Carolina.
	My question for your guest tonight is we all know that truck stops are the mecca of the dark arts.
	What's the craziest thing you've ever seen go down at a truck stop?
	Thank you for everything you guys both do.
	Love you.
	Gang, gang.
	Gang, brother.
	I'll tell you, I'll lead on this one.
	Go ahead.
	So I was going to college, and I did go.
	And I went from Louisiana and I drove to Tucson, Arizona.
	And I had worked all summer, man, to save up some money.
	So I had me about $1,200 in cash.
	And I'd stayed up.
	I was up.
	I was doing uppers, gas station uppers, no dozes.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know, snorting, whatever it is.
	Caffeine pill you can get your hands on.
	Oh, I was snorting it.
	Dude, I did half of them Mountain Dew Code Red.
	Oh, I did half of Mountain Ducode Red straight through one of my nostrils.
	I didn't do it all.
	You should have snorted the red.
	Oh, I don't care.
	I do it at all.
	So anyway, so I'm up, man.
	I've been up for probably about 20 hours.
	And my car, I had this 84, some kind of car.
	I don't even know what it was.
	Didn't even matter, really.
	It was a piece of shit, but it would overheat.
	So about every maybe 150 miles, it got too hot.
	And so I had to pull over and wait about 40 minutes for it to go down.
	And then I had to wait for it to cool off so I could put the water in the radiator and then go start back again.
	Well, I'd been up for fucking a day and a half, man.
	I wasn't doing real well.
	So I stopped at a truck stop in, I guess it was maybe Nevada.
	I'm not sure, or Arizona or West Texas, somewhere.
	But man, I had all my money and I was like, I can't leave it in my car.
	Somebody could break in.
	I'll leave it on my person, right?
	So I took it, put it in my underpants, my cash, right?
	So I went into this gas station.
	I found a place somewhere upstairs.
	They had like this little lobby kind of place, and I just laid on a bench up there and just went to sleep.
	Well, I slept for probably about 40 minutes, and I forgot that I had my cash in my underpants.
	When I stood up, it just fell out my pant leg, and I lost all my money.
	No, you didn't.
	Lost it all, man.
	Holy shit.
	Then here's the shady part.
	Then you're wandering around a gas station for two and a half hours asking people if they found $1,200 cash, right?
	I feel like they're going to tell you.
	Hey, yeah, no.
	I'll take it.
	Oh, sure.
	Because it's yours.
	Would you like to have it back?
	None of them are going to tell you.
	And the worst part is they all think you're on drugs and shit.
	Oh, yeah.
	You're looking for a piece of crack you dropped on the ground.
	Like, have you found $1,200 cash in here?
	And they're like, this dude is on fucking cash.
	Yeah.
	You on dope, man?
	Yeah.
	Do you run in?
	What have you run into out there?
	Have you seen anything wild?
	Is there anything going on out there?
	I've seen fist fights over parking or fuel spots.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Where they're in such a hurry, they get into an actual fist fight over getting fuel.
	Who gets it first?
	Damn.
	I've actually gotten a screaming match with somebody once over that.
	And how does that work?
	Because you're coming in at a certain angle.
	They're looping around.
	No, what it is is that you got to get, you take your turns, you know, just like you would, you know, gas station.
	And the semi-truck in front of you that's supposed to be getting fuel, there's nobody fueling.
	It's just sitting there idling.
	So I'll run in to go pay for a parking spot because all the free ones are taken.
	So you get a reserve spot.
	That's about $15 to $18.
	Okay, so it's almost like a KOA campground.
	You have to pay and park.
	But there are some that are free.
	Yes.
	Interesting.
	The ones that are free are the shittier spots in the back.
	Right.
	It's twisted and turned.
	It's hard to get to.
	Out on the fucking rape trail.
	Right, right.
	And down there in the back, lower 40s, nosebleeds where there's no light.
	Is there a lot of drug use out there?
	You see any of it?
	What are these guys on out there?
	I know some of them are probably doing pills and jumpers.
	Really?
	Drinking?
	Yeah.
	I've smelt it.
	They come into truck stops and they'll walk past you and they smell a brewery.
	But there are truck stops that sell beer.
	You wouldn't think that a pilot, Flying J, Loves, or anything like that would actually sell liquor.
	But there are some that sell alcohol.
	And they could sit in there and get soused all they want in their truck.
	And as long as they're sober, I guess by in the morning, they driving.
	And what are you doing for food in there?
	Do you take food of your own?
	Do you stop and get stuff?
	What do you do?
	Yeah, when I'm off on Saturday or Sunday, Monday, maybe, Sunday and Monday, I'll go to Walmart, get everything I need and put it in, you know, stock up my truck, paper, towels, food, drinks, water, everything.
	And load it all up in there and then go on down the road.
	So if I get hungry, I can actually take everything out, make a sandwich, or I can stick things in the microwave, cook it.
	And if you're taking off, you're starting off on a haul, right?
	Yeah.
	What's the snacks you get out the gate?
	What's that gateway snack setup you like to doughnuts?
	Really, you start with a couple donuts, huh?
	Damn.
	Powder donuts.
	Oh, they're good, huh?
	Can't drink milk no more because I'm getting old and gut can't handle it.
	So I get the lactose-free, and it's the cartons.
	And I'll just have that little knob and turn up the milk and you know, donut or two.
	Next thing you know, you've got this powder ring all over your face and you're wiping it off, and it's all over your shirt.
	Oh, yeah, you're like, oh, this lady parties.
	He's so upset.
	This lady parties.
	You know, she's flying.
	Yeah, it's pretty cool.
	But there was a question a guy asked what the most dangerous thing was.
	Yeah.
	I did get tracks.
	There was a time when I was doing a pre-trip and it was early in the morning.
	Sun was out.
	It was bright, beautiful morning.
	And I was actually close to the truck stop, too.
	I wasn't way out in the parking lot.
	And it sounds like a bad joke, but it's really not.
	I had my hood open, checking all my fluids, checking my belts, everything that needed to be checked.
	Plus, I was still green at it, so it was taking me a while to make sure I'm actually probably over checking.
	Right, you're doing it all.
	Right.
	And here comes this Hispanic guy.
	He wants to know about how to unplug the e-logs in your truck.
	And I was telling him, oh, you go inside of the storage door of your truck and open it.
	Sometimes you can unplug it.
	Well, can you come over here to the truck and show me?
	I was like, no, no, I just told you you can go check it yourself.
	Damn.
	So I went all about my business, wiping stuff, you know, checking.
	Here comes two white dudes.
	Where's your husband at?
	I said, yeah, straight, straight, straight to it.
	I said, he's in there taking a shit, which I was in there by myself.
	I don't tell nobody that.
	Fake shit husband trick.
	Yeah, and he's like, really?
	Okay.
	They just stood there and he's talking amongst themselves.
	I started getting nervous.
	And after about 10 minutes, you know, me ignoring them, a guy said, that must be one long shit.
	I said, he's probably just getting something to eat since he's shit.
	Yeah.
	And he finally, they blocked.
	He's a long circle of life right there.
	This black guy, a Millie Vanilli reject.
	Oh, damn.
	But he's a big dude.
	Big dude.
	Big, tall, 6'3 muscles.
	He came in and helped me.
	He's got the long braids.
	He's got one braid hanging in the front.
	He's like, why don't you come over here and give a brother some love?
	And I was like, no.
	I said, I got a run to do.
	I'll drive a truck, you know.
	And I put the hood down, latched them, and started walking over to the driver's side, you know, kind of quick speed and get in my seat and go to grab the door to shut it.
	And he grabs hold of my wrist.
	No way.
	And he yanks.
	He yanks so hard that I use my feet, my other hand to hold myself in the truck.
	And he's like, come and give me some love.
	And when he yanked and I braced and caught myself, I grabbed that, yanked my wrist back and shut the door.
	And I was already trying to put it in gear before I'd even released the brakes.
	Like I'm really trying to take off and the truck's like, oh, because the brakes are still on.
	So I had to release them, took off, and trying to peel out of there on gravel and fourth gear, you know, with the heavy truck.
	And it's like, you know, trying to take off.
	And I get down the road and get on the interstate and broke down and just like damn near cried.
	Damn.
	You know, because I just went limp.
	This guy just tried to yank me out of the truck.
	And it scared the shit out of me.
	So I texted on the e-logs of my company, Werner, at the time.
	The guy just tried to pull me out and sent it.
	And they're like, be careful.
	That's it.
	That's it, honey.
	That's the world, baby.
	That's the world.
	Be careful.
	All right.
	Thanks for the advice.
	I knew that.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you very much.
	Yeah, a lot of guys with those dreadlocks, they'll use them to tie you down.
	Shit.
	I didn't even look like you beat you with them.
	Oh, yeah.
	I saw a black guy at the gym.
	He had two dreadlocks and he was doing them like those rope, like, you know, like those long enough they could be used as lassoes.
	Oh, people do them.
	You know, people do them.
	It's risque out there.
	Yeah, it is.
	It's scary.
	It's French risk, baby.
	What else?
	Anything else coming over there, Sean?
	What's up, Theo, baby?
	This is your boy, Jacob, coming straight at you from Hillsboro, Oregon.
	What's up, Jacob?
	I have just one question for your guest.
	Yes.
	And that is, how the hell do you stay awake for some of your long-haul drives?
	Because anytime I have to drive for six-plus hours, especially at night, boy, you know I'm going to start nodding off and having to pull over at those sketchy ass rest stops.
	So just if you could let me know one of your secrets, bless up.
	I'd appreciate it.
	Gang, gang.
	Amen.
	Yeah, what's the tricks there?
	Because, you know, what is the tricks?
	Coffee, opening up the window, as far down as it'll go, no matter how cold it is.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Air conditioning in the face.
	I've actually slapped myself a couple of times.
	Oh, yeah, I've done that.
	And I've took my fingertips and I'll sit there and tap the closed eyes to try to wake up.
	I've used cold washcloths on the eyes.
	Visine helps.
	Coffee, coffee, coffee.
	And getting out and walking.
	Stretching.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Because you got to get your legs in a straight position and your ass falls numb.
	Yeah.
	So you got to get the blood flowing.
	Does your ass fall asleep after a while?
	Oh, hell yeah.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	You don't feel your butt crack.
	It's completely gone.
	Oh, my God.
	It feels like one big giant pillow.
	It's like, wow.
	Who needs shocks?
	I keep feeling.
	Yeah.
	Dang.
	Yeah.
	I never, I can't even imagine it's having that ghost ass feel, you know?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, it's AIS is what it's called.
	It is?
	Yeah.
	Ass in seat.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	That's when you don't stop and you run the whole thing.
	Dang.
	Except for your 30-minute break.
	I've done that before, a few times.
	What is, now, are there some outfits and some groups where they can just drive and they don't have to follow those rules?
	Do some people break the rules?
	Some people...
	I think the only ones that can do that, I'm not positive, is like farm equipment.
	I think they're allowed on and off the road, but they can't travel long distances.
	But they don't have to have restrictions and endorsements.
	And they can just get on with their tractor, but get off, you know.
	But no requirements.
	What's a snack that you'll kind of wait to have?
	If you've been out there a while, what's a snack that you won't have while you drive?
	Is there something you've had from the gas station?
	We're like, oh, this makes me sick.
	I'm not having this again.
	Hot dogs, really?
	Yeah, that's an instant enema.
	Do you want to eat a hot dog?
	Take shit.
	There you go.
	It's a risky move.
	Oh, yeah.
	You don't want to, and they're chili.
	Any place that serves their own cooked chili may smell good, may look good.
	It's really cold outside.
	Take an um bum yum, you know, warm chili.
	Dude, that's like a lava just pouring out of a volcano.
	Great God.
	Ass on fire.
	Oh.
	My buddy had it.
	Yeah.
	We've all done some things.
	So is there anything that makes who couldn't drive truck?
	Are there types of people that couldn't drive truck?
	What does it take to be a driver?
	You got to want to drive.
	Okay.
	That's the first thing.
	If you don't like driving, any kind of driving that's in your own car or anything, then you ain't got no business in it.
	You have to have some patience because people are idiots out there.
	Yeah.
	I mean, there's too many of them.
	And you got all the road rage.
	And you got to control your own road rage.
	But just anybody could drive if you wanted to.
	You know, if you wanted to bad enough and you just keep trying, you can do it.
	It takes a lot of studying, a lot of practice.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Backing's hard.
	Backing up.
	To me, yeah.
	Some people are born with the, you know, to just be able to do it.
	Yeah.
	Like just gravy.
	Yeah.
	Eyes closed and get it right in there.
	There's no backup Benny.
	Yeah.
	Those there I give the finger.
	That's what I say, man.
	Yeah, fuck them.
	F them, bro.
	I had to try.
	I had to practice.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	But I'm better at it.
	I ain't going to say I'm perfect at it.
	I never will be.
	There have days where I could back in a spot that's, you know, super tight.
	And then there's other days that I can't back into a football field.
	Yeah.
	You know, and I've heard that from other drivers too.
	Same thing.
	Just kind of the vibe is, huh?
	Just happy days.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	What's the number one thing you got to remember while you're out there driving?
	I mean, is it safety?
	Is it patience?
	I mean, you said patience, but just trying to think if there's anything else that we're kind of missing out, any world that we're missing out on.
	You have to have like six sets of eyeballs running all the time.
	And people don't understand what the truck consists about.
	That's a lot, is the ignorance of the other people.
	They don't know how heavy it is.
	They don't know that we're getting over to avoid hitting somebody on the shoulder that's broke down.
	They think we're just cutting them off.
	You know, it's like, get the hell out of my way.
	Nobody likes being behind them.
	We're a little slower for a reason.
	You know, sometimes it is because of the weight, but then there's other times that we have to keep our distance further back than they do.
	You know, they ride bumper to bumper in cars, you know, and we have to stay back, which is 12 seconds at least.
	That's the rule.
	Yep.
	What about the headlights?
	Y'all use those to like notate things to each other?
	Yeah, it's a code.
	Flipping headlights can, especially during the day, can mean usually there's a police officer or DLT sitting somewhere.
	Could mean a wreck up the road.
	You know, flipping them seriously, flipping, flipping.
	You know, you come over the hill, there might be an accident down there.
	Or somebody pulled over, a lot of cops pulled over somebody on the side of the road.
	And it could mean high beams, basically.
	Turn your lights down.
	Well, I've got them LED lights.
	They're super strong.
	And they, you know, they're like x-ray vision.
	Yeah.
	And I get headlighted, but, you know, high-beamed all the time.
	And I have to show them that I got...
	Here you go.
	You know, they are on low damn it.
	What do you want me to do?
	But ain't nothing you can do about it.
	Is it fun being out there by yourself sometimes cruising?
	Yes.
	I like looking around.
	I love the woods.
	And it's peaceful.
	You know, there's times that I miss my family.
	I miss my kids, my grandbabies, my cat, you know.
	But then there's times that it's like I can't wait after the weekend of being home.
	I'm ready to go back out.
	I like driving the trucks.
	I like shifting gears.
	I feel like King Kong on the road sometimes.
	Yeah.
	I guess it does give you a feeling of power out there.
	Yes, it does.
	Yes, it does.
	And you got control, too.
	Because you can, if you have to hold your own lane and you have to stay where you're at because you cannot change lanes to help somebody that's getting off the ramp, every now and then it's gratifying when somebody actually has to stop and let me go.
	You know, I don't have to stop for you.
	I'm just going to keep on rolling.
	Fuck you.
	I actually had a cop try to pass me on a ramp, which was ridiculous.
	It's like the worst thing ever.
	And it was a police officer.
	And I'm in the slow lane.
	Traffic's pretty heavy.
	There's a lot of traffic coming off the ramp, getting on to the interstate.
	So I move over into the middle lane.
	I'm keeping up with traffic, and they're moving all pretty slow because they're just getting on.
	So I kindly start to pass them.
	There's still just a tiny bit of ramp left because I let them all go on about their business.
	I get back over in the slow lane, and I just, out of the corner of my eye, just happen to glance over in my side mirror.
	There's a freaking cop that's running alongside of me, and he's running out of road, and it's like him getting squashed between me and a guardrail.
	And I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?
	And he ends up backing off because I held my own.
	I was like, piss on you.
	Yeah.
	I'm where I'm supposed to be.
	I don't know what the hell you're doing.
	But he ended up backing off, got behind me, and then ended up into the hammer lane.
	Scooting on, huh?
	Yeah.
	And then rolled on down the road.
	And I was like, yeah, that's what I thought.
	Amen.
	Yeah.
	Do you feel like I bet there's a lot.
	Are there some murderers?
	You feel like you ever met a murderer out there?
	Because I bet there's a lot of murderers in there.
	You probably have.
	Trucking.
	And not know it.
	Because I've heard about that.
	There was a truck driver that I heard about that was picking up hitchhikers and stuff, lot lizards or whatever, and chaining them inside of the cab of his truck.
	Yeah.
	And they caught him.
	Who knows?
	Yeah, they caught him.
	They caught him.
	They caught him.
	But it's definitely a job that really, you know, you're just stopping by.
	You know, you're always leaving.
	Be Careful.
	It's like I said, I walk around there with this look on my face like I'm going to kill somebody.
	I like that.
	You have to.
	Because you can't be.
	Yeah.
	Hey, come kill me.
	Yeah, I'm so weak.
	Yeah.
	Because that's automatic red flag for them.
	You know, oh, dumb bitch, dumb bitch.
	Yeah.
	You know, let's get this hoe.
	But if you walk around and you got that hammer that you just thumped tires with and you look like you're going to crack somebody's skull with it, people won't bother you, so they leave you alone.
	Are you stirring your coffee with a fucking hammer or ice?
	I'll use my pocket knife.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Look the blade clean, you know.
	What other jobs did you have over the years?
	Anything else that really stood out?
	Yeah, before I ever started driving, I've done a little bit of everything.
	I've shoveled some gravel.
	I've worked in motels.
	I've gas stations.
	I've had all different kinds of just odd, meaningless jobs that wasn't going to go nowhere.
	Yeah.
	You know, then they offered me a grant that was free because I was on food stamps, welfare.
	And I was like, yeah, what's the grant consist about?
	What is it?
	She's like, well, you have to pick up a high-paying profession, something that's in demand.
	She said, you got nursing or trucking.
	And nursing is an okay thing, but I don't like people being hurt.
	I get too tender.
	So I go, well, I've always wanted to drive.
	So she's like, well, we'll give you five grand that you don't have to pay back, but you have to graduate.
	You can't fail.
	Yeah, I was top 97% of my class.
	Dude, that's awesome.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I was the only girl.
	Were you?
	That was even like, yeah, I was the only female.
	And dang, yeah, I guess I would just think if I'm a trucker and I see a female come through, I'm going to holler at her.
	Oh, they were so nice.
	The whole damn class was just, and most of them were black.
	But I loved my whole class.
	I like all different people.
	So I get along with everybody.
	Did they have a fake rig, a simulator you would try at first or no?
	No.
	No.
	They gave us these junky little daycaps that we start off just doing the biking up moves, which is alley docking and straight line backing and parallel parking, which you don't have to do.
	But they'd teach you the basics.
	And then she owned her own two Peterbilts.
	Wow.
	And she would let the classmates take those out with the trainers.
	Trainers would take off.
	We'd get to a certain spot.
	Then they'd let one of the students do some driving.
	And we'd all take turns.
	It'd be like five to a truck.
	And we'd all take turns.
	And I shifted like I was in NASCAR.
	That's cool.
	Yeah.
	Well, 55 in like five seconds.
	And what about, this might be the last question I have.
	What about your first kiss?
	You remember your first kiss or no?
	Yes, I do.
	I was 14 years old.
	Damn, girl.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Who was he?
	Head over heels with the town punk.
	Was he?
	What made him a punk, kind of?
	What was that?
	Oh, he quit school.
	Oh, yeah.
	Did drugs, drinking.
	He was 18. I was 14. Yeah.
	Let's see.
	He'd sneak at the bus stop to meet me and my mother.
	She actually introduced me to him.
	Your mom did?
	Yeah.
	They were both from Our Lady of Peace.
	Yeah, I bet they were.
	Our Lady of Peace of ass, bruh.
	Well, you know what Our Lady of Peace is?
	It's a church, right?
	It's a mental hospital.
	Oh, damn.
	Well, they changed by the time they got to our.
	Mom had a nervous breakdown.
	The guy went in for drugs.
	They met.
	Well, when they met, my mother comes out when she finally got, I guess, what you would call normal.
	She comes out and she's like, I met this guy.
	I said he knows you, and he's so nice.
	He's so sweet.
	And he's so good looking.
	Well, I ended up meeting the dude later on down the road when I found out he was a fruit, you know, just nuttier than shit.
	He's out there, huh?
	Yeah, he was bad news.
	Yeah.
	But that was the first kiss.
	Damn, he was good looking.
	Was he?
	Yeah.
	Who'd he look like?
	He was dark complexed.
	He had brown eyes, brown hair, tall, thin, has six pack.
	Damn.
	Very nice.
	Very nice.
	His mom and dad was Romeo and Lee.
	They were really good people.
	That were their parents' names?
	Yeah.
	That's cool names.
	Romeo was his dad.
	Lee was his mother.
	Damn, Romeo is a dope name, really.
	They had a rapper that kind of stole it from everybody, but I feel like it should be coming back.
	I wouldn't mind having a little kid named Romeo.
	What was your first concert you ever went to?
	You remember?
	Oh, yes, I do.
	Ozzy Osborne and Motley Crue.
	Damn, that's a good one.
	It was Bark at the Moon and Motley Cruz Shout at the Devil.
	Damn.
	It was at the old Cardinal Stadium in Louisville.
	The Bush Stadium?
	No, no, that was before that, huh?
	It was the Cardinal Stadium, the outdoors.
	Y'all have heard of the Yum Center and it's the new stadium that Louisville has built.
	Is this it right here?
	Yeah, that's the old one right there.
	Because it was outside.
	And the Motley Crew and Ozzie Osborne concert was outdoors in the stadium.
	It was excellent.
	It was?
	Yes.
	And I don't remember a lot of it.
	But what I do, yeah.
	What were y'all on?
	Drugs or just drinking?
	Weed.
	Oh, yeah.
	I was 14, so I was pretty green to everything.
	I had never actually done anything up until I was 14. Yeah.
	So first thing I ever tried was smoking pot.
	And the guy, my first boyfriend, the gym I was telling you about, we went together.
	Oh, nice.
	My mom and dad drops us off, right?
	Unbelievable.
	And I was all so excited, you know, and I saw Motley Crew.
	I was just, you know, stoked and pumped.
	And we're just jamming, you know, heads banging and, you know, the little thing going on.
	And, you know, yeah.
	Then the next thing I know, it's like Ozzy's on.
	And I was like, well, what?
	You know, I'm starting to get like all foggy head and shit and can't remember hardly nothing.
	You know, but every joint that he had brought had been smoked.
	So yeah, we were pretty toasty.
	And I remember being up against the fence.
	Oh, I bet, huh?
	Like me and him sitting in the grass.
	Oh, okay.
	And it's pitch black outside.
	And I guess we was waiting for my mom and dad to pick us up.
	That's why I guess we were there.
	I bet.
	I bet, man.
	But did I remember being in the car shortly after?
	And my dad always claimed that he was the one that could bust us if we'd been smoking pot, right?
	And he couldn't.
	Fuck no.
	My mom knew it every time.
	She was the one that didn't smoke.
	I found out later that my dad was the one that smoked.
	You're too high to know that we're high.
	She's the sober one that can tell.
	Dude, I remember I went to Green Day concert one time.
	I was so high that I watched the opening band and I thought that was Green Day.
	I sang all the Green Day songs.
	You do?
	100%.
	I sang every Green Day song that I knew.
	I heard it as they played it.
	I thought it was Green Day.
	It's over.
	I'm ready to leave.
	Ask my friends, are we ready to go?
	And they're like, Green Day hasn't even performed yet.
	Who was you jamming to in your own head?
	I mean, besides it being Green Day, who was actually playing?
	I don't know.
	You want to look it up?
	Green Day Tour 1994?
	1995, maybe?
	I don't know.
	But damn, they were good, man.
	He was doing some kind of something with a hallucinogen in it.
	Oh, dude.
	It could have been Beethoven playing anything since Green Day.
	Yeah, this is good, Jamming.
	I'll tell you this one, too.
	So at another, can you see who their opener was?
	Maybe if you see their tour history, maybe would that be it?
	I'm not sure.
	Yeah.
	There you go.
	Green Day Tour history, maybe it would be on there.
	20, yeah, let's do 95, maybe.
	See if they played New Orleans.
	It doesn't say their opener, though, does it?
	Yep, that was it right there.
	December 6th, dude.
	Wow.
	Other acts, the Riverdales, dude.
	I don't know who they were, but they sound just like they were just doing covers of Green Day, I think.
	The Riverdales.
	The Riverdales, okay.
	Alrighty then.
	Damn, bro.
	I'll tell you this.
	They good, man.
	They were real good.
	And then here was the worst part.
	Another time I went to some concert, and I remember being high.
	Somebody laced a joint or just laced me.
	I think the Lord just laced me.
	And damn, man, I hit a damn.
	I got so high, I remember thinking I was a raccoon for a couple minutes.
	And I found this man at the back of the thing, and I was feeling on his chest, and I thought he was in the war.
	And it was a cop.
	He had like a badge on.
	I remember feeling the badge.
	I was like, were you in the war?
	You know, I thought it was like a medal or something, you know?
	And he's like, I'm a fucking cop, man.
	You know, you need to take this bullshit into the bathroom.
	I was like, I think I'm dying.
	He goes, well, you need to fucking go die in the bathroom, son.
	He didn't care.
	He said, you need to go fucking.
	Okay, die here.
	I mean, I've been feeling on his damn chest.
	I don't blame him, really.
	But I couldn't see I thought I was a raccoon.
	I'm glad I didn't tell him I thought I was a raccoon.
	Yeah, he probably would have put a straitjacket on your ass.
	I don't think people want to hear that.
	You know?
	But, yeah, it was fun going to concerts, man.
	Did you ever up the ante on drugs?
	LSD was popular back then, huh?
	I don't like it.
	I actually tried it just twice and only did a half a hit each time I tried it, and I didn't like it.
	Yeah.
	It's weird things happen.
	And it wasn't that I was tripping.
	It was just something that odd.
	It's in the middle of summertime.
	First time I tried it, half a hit, and it's hot.
	And I'm standing on my friend's porch.
	And I look down and just this random dog walks in front of me and barfs.
	But as he's barfing, he's biking up and it's just kind of long gating out of his mouth.
	And I'm like, what the fuck?
	You know, what is this?
	You know, just didn't care for that.
	Then the second time I tried it with my brother and a friend of ours, Stephanie.
	Oh, wow.
	And it was just a half.
	And we're driving down the road.
	We're in Shepherdsville and we're coming around a corner where the stockyards are.
	And we saw this line of traffic ahead of us that's coming toward us.
	And we're like, what the hell?
	And we saw this.
	There's a guy on this horse that is running full speed coming toward us.
	Now we're on acid.
	Okay.
	And there's a horse that's holding up all this traffic.
	Well, as he's running full gallop, he's running.
	To us, it looks like the legs are flailing off like this as the horse is running.
	We're all three laughing so damn hard that we can't drive.
	So we actually had to pull over and sit there until we could catch our breath, run the snot off our nose and the eyes.
	And we're like, what the hell was we just looking at?
	Was that a guy on a horse?
	What the hell is that?
	And just how do you pick two times that you see a dog vomit and a guy on a horse in the middle of the fucking road?
	Look, look.
	Rolling full speed.
	There ain't no cart back there.
	He's just gloom, gloom.
	Like he's at the Kentucky Derby, you know, on the interstate.
	It's like, what the hell?
	Dude, that's God right there.
	I'm telling you this because I remember one time being high on mushrooms or something.
	And we went to the gas station and all the ground just suddenly, all these little pieces of oil look like they started running around everywhere.
	And I'm like, oh my God, is that roaches?
	What is this?
	You know, it's just insane.
	And then we go inside and the guy said, as we're leaving, I swear to God, he goes, y'all be a little conscious by the pumps.
	We got a roach infestation by the pumps.
	And I'm like, and I'm just thinking, when has there ever been a roaches by a gas pump?
	Ever?
	Maybe one.
	You see one every now and then, but like a roach infestation?
	Just sometimes weird shit happens when you're on drugs and you just, it doesn't, you're like, damn, this makes things.
	Were they making flaka or something?
	Yeah, it could have been.
	It's like they made something so much weirder.
	But a dog barfing, that would fucking lose my mind, man.
	If you had advice or suggestions for any women who were thinking about getting into the trucking business or anything like that, was there any suggestions you'd offer to them?
	Yes.
	Get plenty of sleep.
	Don't let the job run your life.
	You are the captain of your own ship.
	You know, when you are tired, stop.
	You know, if you want a shower, take a shower.
	You know, it's them kinds of things.
	You know, you want to do your job.
	You want to be out of here on time, but you also want to stay human and be able to function.
	Because if you can't, then you don't need to be driving.
	And a lot of times you're getting pushed to get there, do this one, do this one, do this one.
	You ain't done yet.
	You ain't done it.
	Oh, by the way, you need to go here.
	You need to go there.
	And it's like, no, I have to sleep.
	I have to have a shower.
	I got to get something to eat.
	You know, you can't ignore it.
	Or if you ignore yourself, you can't drive.
	It's just not worth it.
	And it ain't safe.
	Yeah, it's interesting you say that, man.
	There's some of those same things in my own life right now.
	I've just been realizing I got to do more taking care of myself, you know.
	Plus, you want to find a job that you actually like doing.
	You don't want to stay stuck driving and hate it because it ain't for you if you hate it.
	You know, and you have to keep your head turned all the time and watch behind your back.
	You know, I think if you help people that eventually it'll come around to you eventually, sometime or another.
	Yeah.
	But karma is kind of cool to sit and watch if you just be patient and let it happen.
	It's one cool thing I like about, I feel sorry when people die young is sometimes where they die early in their life because they don't get to life really does have that full karma effect really in a lot of ways.
	You get to see things come back around and you're like, oh, wow.
	When you see somebody cut you off the ultimate on the road, you know, this is like the prize winner, the big chicken dinner.
	If you see somebody cut you off or cut somebody else off, and then immediately following is these blue lights flying after that person.
	Then you can sit there in that truck and laugh your ass off and point your finger and just be like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, as you go down the road.
	Yeah, that's the revenge.
	That's the ultimate sweet revenge right there.
	I like that.
	Ginger, thank you so much for being here with us.
	You're welcome.
	We really appreciate it.
	Thanks for asking me.
	Yeah, it's really, it's an honor.
	And it's just cool to learn about the business and hear about some of the pros and cons of it.
	And just to see a woman out there working hard getting it done.
	Bust mad.
	Amen.
	Rolling on.
	Now I'm just footing on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
	I must be cornerstone.
	Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this piece of mind.
	I found I can feel it in my bones.
	But it's gonna take a little time for me to snap that pocket and
	let myself fast on
	the runaway train with a heavy load of my pants.
	And these wheels that I've been riding on, they're once so thin that they're damn near gone.
	I guess now they just weren't built to lay.
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