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Today's guest is a man that I met at the gun store.
And I went in there recently.
I'm going to be very honest with you.
And I didn't know what I was doing, but I did know that I wanted to get a gun.
And this man had so much information and just knew so much in that realm in the bulletry.
And he's also a gunsmith.
He's an outdoorsman.
And he is a bona fide gunman.
My new friend, Nico Furlawn.
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Speaking of drinking your dad.
So, Nico, yeah, I appreciate you coming in today, man.
And, you know, because you sold me two guns recently.
I did, yeah.
You know, and so, yeah, that's.
And I was just thinking about it whenever I was at the gun store.
And what gun store do you work at?
Turner's outdoors, man.
We're on Hawthorne Boulevard, North Torrance.
And they got everything in there.
Everything.
We got handguns, revolvers, rifles, shotguns for all your needs.
Anything you need.
And I noticed, yeah, they have everything.
If you want to be a murderer, if you want to be a fisherman, if you want to.
They have the full spectrum.
You can go out like North Hollywood.
The North Hollywood shootout.
You can do just like that.
You can shoot deer.
You know what I mean?
You can put your dog down.
Whatever you're into.
Yeah, you guys can do all of that.
Yeah, we had a guy by us actually when I was growing up that would put people's...
Really?
Yeah.
You just call him up?
Oh, you would call him or you just go not.
Yeah.
Would you expect compensation for that or he would just do it?
No, he would just do it.
Oh, he just liked it, yeah.
Well, no, he was just the kind of guy.
He had done it enough.
I think a lot of people were scared.
You know, I don't want to put my dog down.
I don't know how to do it.
What if I shoot him in the wrong place?
You know, what if I fucking, or what if some people would try to strangle their dog or something?
Like, oh, I can't get him to go down.
My brother put our dog down.
Really?
Yeah, he didn't even mean to, but he did it.
On accident?
Kind of.
My dog was sick.
I had a little chihuahua, you know?
Oh, yeah.
And he was old and getting sick.
I see frizz people put that fucking thing down.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I mean, you can drop a biscuit on the floor.
You'll hit him in the head.
He's gone.
He's gone, dude.
Like Reginald Denny, man, back in there, just gone.
Just like that.
Yeah, but no, he was like, he was sick, you know, and he's a little chihuahua, so he wants to sleep in the bed.
He goes under the covers, you know?
And I think he was too weak, and he's sleeping with my brother in his bed.
I don't think he could get out.
I think he suffocated, man.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Yeah, my brother was not happy.
Yeah, it almost reminds me of that movie.
I'm trying to think of that movie.
Twins.
Maybe you've seen that movie?
It was before your time, I think.
You bring up that bring up something?
Twins?
All right.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
I was moving with Arnold Schwarzenegger, though.
Oh, shit.
I think so.
Who was in it?
Oh, maybe Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Danny DeVito on Arnold Schwarzenegger.
I think when I was born, he was a governor.
Yeah, he was.
Before that, he was sleeping with his brother.
Yeah, there they are.
Damn, man.
But yeah, dude, you sleep with your brother, bro.
Anything could die.
It's a fucking risky game.
Oh, yeah.
Well, he's like a, you know, he's a hairy Italian guy, you know?
Yeah.
There's death under there.
It's ghost, man.
One of the reasons I wanted to talk to you was just because of, like, I ended up buying some guns, you know?
Yeah, sure.
And I didn't know if I even wanted any guns, but once the pandemic hit, once the COVID came in, I was like, I think I need to get some guns.
And so I came over there to you guys, and yeah, just the whole experience.
Like, what has the experience been for you, like working at a gun store?
What has it been like since this pandemic hit?
I mean, it's completely unprecedented.
What's going on?
I worked there with a lot of guys that have been working in the firearms industry for a long time.
Real experienced guys, you know, and they've been selling guns for longer than I've been alive.
Oh, dang.
Oh, yeah.
And they tell me the same thing, man.
They tell me it's unprecedented.
The month of March had more background checks done than any other month in the history of the United States.
March of 2020.
When the first kind of panic started going on, we had over nearly 200 people outside the store waiting to get in before we opened.
Four to five hour lines just for service because we were just full of people.
And if you know, you know, if you're around L.A., you know there's not that many gun stores.
There's a few, a handful just around, especially West L.A. And where we are, you know, kind of like in the epicenter of a bunch of different neighborhoods.
So we're by Torrance, Manhattan Beach, Hawthorne, you know, on the way to Gardena.
So we're kind of like in that, right in right in the middle of all that.
Right.
So kind of weird.
We're kind of white, getting Mexican-y.
Oh, it's, I'm going to be honest, man, it's mostly Latino.
Yeah.
Mostly, or Clantel is mostly Latino, but you get, I mean, I was surprised when I started working there, the diversity of people purchasing firearms.
It's all types.
And so when you say, like, how soon after kind of the pandemic hit or after, like, did you notice there was a certain thing that brought people in?
It's like, oh, now we got to go get the guns.
Like, now?
100%.
The vast majority of people in there buying guns as of recent have been brand new gun buyers.
Never bought a gun in their life.
Never even expected to buy guns.
That's for a lot of them.
And it was the first time, and I was talking to a lot of my coworkers, it was the first time that people really started talking about openly in the store buying these guns and using them in the defense of their property from people willing to take it from them.
Wow.
A lot of people were like, oh, hey, I want, you know, I want to get a tactical shotgun.
It's like, oh, if you ever ask them, oh, what do you plan on doing with it?
Oh, you know, I'll just shoot out the range.
I like it.
And, you know, it's a good thing for home defense.
Okay, granted.
That was common.
But now it's like, oh, I need to get this because what if someone breaks in and they're trying to take my stuff?
And they were just going off about it.
They're talking about, you know, it kind of reminded them of the riots in LA 92. Some of the old timers talking about The Watts riots back in, I believe, the 70s.
Yeah.
Yeah, especially living in this area.
That's another thing I thought about.
I was like, wow, well, I live in an area that has a history of unrest, you know, of civil unrest if things get, you know, if things get squirreled out, really.
So, because that's it, because it's funny because I was even thinking to myself, like, why am I buying a gun?
You know, what am I, I mean, I think I'd always kind of wanted to get a gun, but I'd never acted on it.
And then suddenly it was like, okay, I'm going to get this gun.
Yeah.
And I think it was just, yeah, I want to be able to take care of myself.
I want to be able to, like, if things get real heated, you know, and somebody's coming over, somebody's stealing diapers from me or stealing water or stealing whatever, you know, like.
They're coming for that TP, brother.
They want that photo shape, man.
Yeah.
They're coming for your collared shirt.
Yeah, people.
I guess it's funny because I think my first instinct would be if somebody like really needed help would be to help them.
Right.
But then if somebody's coming in with the intent not looking for help.
Right.
They're there for your stuff.
Yeah.
There for your life, man.
Yeah.
What were some of the, have you gotten some wild questions from people during this time?
Oh, my God.
You have no idea, man.
All types.
I mean, you get all types of weirdos in there, man.
I remember one dude was coming in.
He was like an older white guy.
And he was coming in and he was like, I'm looking for a 4570 lever action rifle.
And 4570s used to be the standard military cartridge for the U.S. pretty much right after the Civil War.
Just pretty much right before World War I. And it's a very powerful, large, big boar cartridge.
They use it for buffalo hunting, stuff like that.
It's just a very powerful cartridge.
And the gentleman I was talking to was like, oh, yeah, why are you looking for something like that?
and he was like well I read that this is a good gun for a riot I was like, what does that mean?
Like a good gun for a riot like what are you gonna do with it during a riot?
And he's just like oh, you know, like it's a heavy bullet so it'll just you know it'll just sail through crowds.
I was like I was like god damn all right like it's a good riot cartridge then to get to the front of the line oh yeah hell yeah man and uh all types i mean a lot of people looking for really cheap guns yeah i need something under 200 it was like dude i'm like i'm gonna sell you a knife man i can't get like there's not too many guns you can throw it man yeah there's your range and so is but you've got a lot of new users in for the first time yeah and where so what is what's a gun that you usually recommend for those types of people uh if
they're looking for um first i got to ask them are you looking for a rifle you're looking for a shotgun you're looking for a handgun most people can at least answer though that question like what out of those three major categories can are you looking for right and and if they're looking for a handgun i recommend just most polymer frame striker fired pistols really easy to use like a glock for an example springfield xds because we're limited on what we can get here in california uh smith and wesson you know shields smith and
wesson sd9s that kind of thing those guns are really popular for new gun buyers because they're really really simple to use and and they're just effective they just do the job that's it and when you say that so california has like different laws like would they have different we can't get certain types of guns here you mean or we can't oh yeah well okay well with long guns rifles and shotguns you're not really limited on on on the exact specific guns you can get they have to be california compliant which means they have to have a list of features that are not on the gun uh
it's really stupid and convoluted and then for uh for handguns there's like there's something called the california handgun roster where there's an actual list of designated models that you can buy here in california what that pretty much entails as far as i understand it is that they pretty much need to pay a lot of money and pass all these safety requirements to get on the roster okay and then for semi-automatic handguns like one of the guns that you purchase a semi-automatic handgun they pretty much need to be made after the year 2013 not the actual make but
the design of the gun needs to be from 2013 or before that the reason for that is the california uh pretty much i believe it was department of justice they dictated that if you're going to bring a new gun on the roster a new semi-automatic handgun on the roster it needs to have micro stamping technology okay that was i believe those are the words they used okay micro stamping technology wouldn't would entail where if you fired the bullet it would leave an imprint on the bullet that would be able to track the gun specifically to that serial number right okay that technology
does not exist well you know you see this i feel like you see a lot of times on like uh crime shows and stuff where people use a bullet and they can trace it back to a gun yeah what that would pretty much entail is based on the way the firing pin hits the primer of the cartridge they can tell what kind of gun it is was it a revolver and maybe they could even tell what specific what specific actual firearm it is oh that was a i'm based maybe on the extraction pattern as well oh that was a that was a glock 17 for an example or not even a 17 they
can just oh it's a glock 9mm okay that's just one thing they can tell from it um but with microstamping technology they pretty much are saying that they can track using the imprint from the firing pin they can track the actual gun's serial number directly to you which which on csi it's a fantasy that's not true look that up do you mind that microstamping is a process in which a gun imprints a unique microscopic code onto the ammunition it fires the goal is to enable detectives to collect shell casings
at a crime scene enter the code in a database and quickly track the firearm to its owner yeah the problem is the technology is unreliable and expensive each time a gun is fired it wears slightly leaving a microstamp unreadable after a short period of normal use almost like a regular like a regular stamp if you run out of like i guess the ability maybe to like one of those ink pads or something then you're done huh and so i guess they're trying to make so this seemed like an early this seems like a plan that would make great sense but they just do not have the technology for
it yet right and and and nor is it practical in the sense of it actually mitigating crime where yeah i mean if you do have microstampic technology you could tell which firearm specifically it was right however there are certain requirements that consider something a firearm in the united states okay it and it's typically the frame also the receiver of a gun right so if you have a glock pistol right which is a very standard pistol just the plastic frame is the only part on the gun that actually has a serial number everything else is just it's just
a metal part you can order it all online right so i can buy a glock buy a firing pin online for ten dollars replace the firing pin and it would have a different micro stamp i see what you're saying it's very easy to get rid of something and what's to stop someone from just grounding it off right it would do nothing so this is a bit so this is something that it theoretically would be great but in reality it doesn't it's not really very practical exactly and this is a law now that you had to have that you have to have this yeah so new new handguns from manufacturers to be sold in california
semi-automatic handguns need to have microstamping technology for them to be approved on the roster okay and the one that i've uh bought is that is is is a gun that does not have microstamping technology because it was being made and sold in california before the year of 2013.
oh i see so it's grandfathered in kind of kind of i mean the gun that you have is brand new right no one used it or anything it's just that that specific model was allowed because they were making and selling that model to california they were they were selling that model here in california before the year of 2013.
so of the new like gun owners that you're seeing like people that have come to the shop recently who are they like what do they look like what are they i mean you said it was a lot of latinos out there is it a lot of gangsters is it a lot of females what is it you know at our oh all types man at our shop we get a we get a lot of gangsters gangsters of all kinds i mean i've seen like dudes that are borderline like white nationalists yeah straight up like straight up cholos they got all excited yeah calm down sorry just straight like just black gangsters like yeah bloods
crips that kind of stuff and uh and yeah they don't i mean a lot of times they don't even hide it like i mean what about jews do you see any jews in there a few not too many i feel like I feel like, I don't know, I feel like.
There's a lot of Jewish supremacists now.
Like people that are devout Judaism-only type of shit.
Yeah, Zionists, you know?
Yeah, right.
I feel like they have their own way of getting guns.
We sell Jewish guns.
We got some stuff from Israel there, which is kind of cool.
Wow.
Israel makes a lot of weapons, man.
It's a weapon belt over there.
Hell yeah.
Got to.
Technology and weapons, man.
Yeah.
Well, they're surrounded by their enemies, you know?
Yeah, it's a hot area.
It's a good area to have a weapon.
Yeah, for them.
Hell yeah.
So go ahead.
You're seeing a lot of Latinas.
Is it a lot of gangbangers?
Is it a lot of stepmoms?
Not all.
It's kind of a lot.
You get that occasionally.
It's just a lot of just really random people, man.
Whether it's people my age, you know, just first-time gun buyers, 21 years old, single women, women with kids.
And are they expressing fears about the pandemic, like about the...
100%.
They're there telling us, like, I don't know what to get.
I don't know anything about guns.
I don't even really want to know anything about guns.
I just want to get one.
That was me, really.
Yeah.
Kind of.
I mean, I knew I wanted a handgun.
I looked through some guns and kind of picked out the one that I wanted.
Exactly.
But I don't think you were there entirely out of fear, man.
A lot of people were there really just looking around, and they just kind of were freaking me out, to be honest with you, man.
And is there an element where you have to like – If you determine that they have too much fear, do you still have to sell them a gun?
I wouldn't say I have to, but...
You know what I'm saying?
If I'm coming from a place of just complete fear, then I could make some poor choices.
100%.
You don't want to fucking shoot a guy and he just had the mail.
Yeah, no, for sure.
But that's where it gets tricky because you also don't want to deprave someone of their Second Amendment right, especially when there's a limited amount of gun stores and it's hard for them to get in.
I mean, a lot of people were waiting for five hours for service.
Yeah.
And they want to get a gun.
And despite the reasons, I mean, out of fear, that's not necessarily a reason where I can take away their constitutional right.
That's what I see.
Right.
So, yeah.
So there's nothing in it where you make any sort of psychological mental health evaluation of them.
We have the freedom to.
Okay.
We can.
And like another thing, by requirement, if you smell like marijuana, I can't serve you.
Wow.
And I've had a toll.
I mean, man, I have some stories of these gangsters that come in all the time, man.
Or just anyone, maybe people that smell like weed, but just like usually people that walk into a gun store.
Some real fucking cholos.
Dude, they sit in their infinity, you know, and they're smoking a backwood.
And they're in the parking lot.
And they're like, all right, now let's go buy guns.
Now it's after they greak.
Yeah, what the fuck?
And do they a lot of times think they're going to be able to get it day of?
Oh, my.
Most people, not most, but a lot of people were getting upset at us because they were like, it's a 10-day waiting period in California.
So if you start the background check that day, right, then 10 days from now you can come pick it up.
Right, right.
That's what I'm going through right now.
It just got extended, too.
It just got.
As of recent, they've been extended a little bit.
The DOJ pretty much sent out a notification to us that they're completely backed up on background checks going through.
So even after the 10-day waiting period, the background check might not have cleared yet.
So we've had, I mean, this weekend, probably over 40 people come pick up their guns, and we had to deny them that access to pick up their firearm, even if it was after their 10-day waiting period, just due to the fact that they could not, the DOJ has not cleared their background check yet.
Wow.
Yeah.
It's just pending.
And I checked it for you because your pickup date was yesterday.
Yeah.
You're going through the same thing.
If you came in yesterday to get your firearms, which it would have been after the 10-day waiting period, you would not have been able to.
And now, has that ever happened in your line, like in your time of work?
No one I talked to there has ever seen that ever.
And so what do you attribute that to?
Just the sheer amount of people that are buying guns in the United States and California.
So maybe it's good.
At least it's like, okay, we have to run some sort of a background check.
We're not just filtering all these people through.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, especially in California.
I mean, that background check process is California, and there's other states to do backgrounds.
There's a national background check system, right?
And you fill out paperwork, and that's what you did, right?
And that national background check system doesn't necessarily mean a 10-day waiting period.
There's a lot of other states where you can buy a day of and take it home.
Yeah, California is one of the only, not one of the only, but there's a few states that have a waiting period.
Day of you can buy?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I mean, Arizona, Utah, you go buy a day of, fill out the paperwork, take it home.
Dude, Arizona, you know, that they take a driver's license picture when you're like 19 years old, and then you have to get it done again for 50 years.
Can you fucking imagine that?
Yeah, I know.
Guy's like an old man, man.
Let me see your ID.
It doesn't even look like him, man.
Looks like his kids.
Look at his grandkids, man.
That's funny.
That's crazy, though, man.
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But that seems wild because if you, like, do you prefer that there's a waiting period?
It seems like there definitely should be a...
What if I am fucking high?
What if I'm coked up?
What if I'm this or that?
I'm all on DMT and I want to go fucking, you know, want to go deep and shoot the devil, you know?
Does California have one of the longest ones?
Is 10 day one of the longest?
I believe 10 day is the longest one.
Yeah.
I believe we do have the longest one.
Not 100% on that, but I'm 99% sure.
Yeah, and it's a pretty, it's just a pretty, obviously it's a, California's a pretty liberal state, you know, I mean, certainly the Los Angeles area is.
And so I was like really shocked when it was hard to get in over at you guys' place.
You know, there was just such a, there was like a waiting period to get in.
You know, it's just, and then they had just made a law or passed some sort of ruling that you guys weren't even going to be allowed to sell guns anymore.
Yeah, the governor, Gavin Newsome, extremely anti-gun, and the sheriff of Los Angeles County at one point both declared that gun stores should be closed down and that they're not essential.
That's because they were pretty much seeing the giant rush on gun stores.
However, I believe they were flooded with a bunch of lawsuits, like constitutional lawsuits, like, oh, well, that's trumping our Second Amendment right.
So then they actually kind of just pulled off on it.
And some counties, they have stopped them.
I know the Turner's location in Oxnard.
They were shut down by the police there by the sheriff there because of their orders for their county.
But LA County is not one of those counties.
Surprisingly.
Does it worry you that there's going to be a lot more guns flooding?
Even just driving around and you're thinking like, oh, shit, now there's a lot more fucked tards with guns?
Do you think about that at all?
Yeah, I mean, I've thought about it.
Not much I can do about it, man.
That's always been a part of American life, man.
There's always been firearms.
They've always been here.
Well, the Big Bang theory, if you think about that, I mean, America started with a, you know, I mean, or the world started with chaos.
Somebody setting it off, you know?
100%, yeah.
It would have been God just shooting.
Yeah.
Turning the universe, man.
Yeah, dude.
Somebody just, yeah, the pin hitting the freaking.
Firing pin in the primer.
There it is.
Boom.
After that, man, it's just chaos from that.
You can't be shocked if somebody else wants to do it.
No, I don't know.
I can't be shocked.
Somebody just wants to big bang at somebody fucking running.
Oh, yeah.
And if you ever shot a gun, man, I mean, a lot of people that are there anti-gun have never fired a weapon.
Yeah.
It's exhilarating.
It's a lot of fun.
It captures your kind of visceral need for destruction in a way.
Well, I've said this before.
And, you know, I had a buddy who said that he killed someone.
Yeah.
And he said it was awesome.
Oh, yeah.
And I'm not saying, I don't condone what he said.
Oh, yeah.
And I'm not saying he should have done it or any shit like that, but he did.
I trust some of his belief.
It's not his belief, but I trust his own evaluation of what occurred.
Oh, yeah.
I got a lot of buddies in the military, man, and they haven't seen any combat yet, and they're just training.
And a lot of them are infantrymen, and they're getting into it.
But they tell me about it, and they're my age, and all they want to do is go fight.
All they want to do is go fight.
And I mean, I can't say I don't understand it.
It's a people, you know, people my age, young men for the history of the human race, man, have been wanting to go to war.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's something about, I was talking about this last week on the podcast, that there's something about us that has like an a thing of like anarchy that I noticed like this pandemic starts to like, it starts to light that fuse a little bit.
Oh, yeah.
Like, what if we all got to go back to the Wild West days, you know?
Like, what if, you know, suddenly like the services and the society that we're in, it starts to break down?
I think there are some people who not only would like to have that, a little bit of that grand theft auto-type of lifestyle, but then also some people who want to just be prepared for it.
Oh, yeah.
Like, you don't want to show up, you know, you don't want to show up really late to saving yourself, you know, and being prepared.
Because once shit hits the fan, you're not going to be able to get a gun.
There won't be gun stores open.
You know what I'm saying?
If things get really bad, things aren't going to be open.
It's not going to be available.
You're not going to be able to go to your neighbor, like, hey, give me a gun.
They're like, nah, I'm going to shoot you so I can run the building.
Yeah, I mean, that's why my whole family lives on one block.
You know what I mean?
So I guess that's something pretty sad.
It's a lot of firepower right there, you know, centrally located.
Yeah.
But no, man, yeah, 100%.
I mean, you have a lot of people that kind of have that hunger for chaos.
It's just the way it is.
I mean, look at the U.S. today.
Everything, I mean, it's so complicated.
Our lives, it's all social media and going to work on time and all that.
And I feel like people are getting kind of sick of it.
And eventually they just kind of want to just want that chaos to boil over, man.
It just gives them a little bit time of relief.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
A lot of human beings wants some sort of chaos.
And then if they don't, at least wants to be prepared for it.
At least recognizes that it's in other people.
I mean, even if you look back in the Bible, man, which is, you know, I mean, it's a hit or miss book, but if you, like Cain and Abel, they had four people in the world and one of them killed the other one.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel, fucking Abel killed Cain, I think, or one of them.
But dude, I mean, when you think about that, there's four people.
Four people, dude.
You think people would be excited?
There's finally four of us and one of them's like, nah.
One of them's just like, nah, fuck it.
Fucking killing your boy right here.
You're like, damn, dude.
Abel murdered Cain.
Yeah, bro.
Abel fucking murdered Cain, dog.
So that's when you're going to be like, damn, bro.
I read it wrong.
You had it right the first time.
Cain murdered Cain.
Yes, sir.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Because, yes, we can.
I remember seeing those bumper stickers growing up.
Yes, we can.
Yeah.
Like, if your brother gets out of line, yes, we can.
Yes, we can.
But so, yeah, I just think there's inherently there's something in us that makes us want to act out.
And so when this shit starts to happen, you get people, it lights that fuse.
It lights that limbic part of their brain that's like, how am I going to take care of myself?
How am I going to protect my family?
Definitely, man.
And if you think about it, like, what time in history in the U.S. captures people's imagination more than anything else is the Wild West.
You know what I mean?
Hey, you're in the saloon, someone looks at your girl, you shoot them.
You know what I mean?
Someone disagrees that you lost a poker game, shoot them.
You know, you see someone out there taking stuff, kill his horse.
You know what I mean?
Well, see, the third part I don't like as much.
I don't like the first.
The first two I could definitely, I would sit on a trial for.
The third one, I'd be like, the third one, I'm like, I'm not even signing up for this.
This guy's guilty.
What if you're hungry, man?
You got to eat that shit.
Well, if you're hungry, man, I think if you're real hungry, dude, yeah.
Look, I've told you before, I'd eat a neighbor, I'd eat somebody.
I'm not afraid.
No, for sure.
I've eaten rare shit.
I'll have a little more.
Yeah, that's it.
So I'm not afraid to go down that, you know, that kind of, you know, palate path.
You know, I'm not afraid to fucking eat somebody.
You almost ate Ben, the young Viette?
Yeah, almost been into a fucking Vietnamese guy at a damn best buy.
And that was just when I was a fasting.
That was forced starvation.
If you're talking about real starvation, bro.
Yeah.
Because you got to think, if shit goes weird, you're in an apartment building.
Immediately, it's like, okay, things are going to get weird quick.
Like if society started to break down, right?
Nobody's been picking up trash.
So you have no trash pickup, right?
So everything is going to start to stink.
Nobody's, who knows if clean water plants and that sort of stuff are starting to work.
Do you have fresh water?
Do you have water at home?
So people are going to be on edge.
Oh, yeah.
On edge.
Oh, yeah.
So suddenly, like, shitting your apartment building is going to start to become like a little bit of, I don't think everybody's like, hey, let's be on the same team and team up together.
No, no, no.
It's definitely not, man.
I mean, I was just, I just came back from the Philippines, man.
And over there, you can see how people are.
They're really community-oriented.
Everyone kind of sees each other like a big family.
That's the way I felt when I was over there.
But over here, man, it's dog eat dog.
You know, that's how I feel.
I feel like you'll have a lot of people that are trying to work together.
But, you know, Americans could be selfish.
They're looking out for themselves.
Especially in a city.
I think in a city, you're dealing with that.
Like, I think if once I got out to like a more of a rural environment or something, and you have a bit of land, you have some space where you can see, okay, if there's people out on the Ponderos, sir, what's going on?
You have animals that are around that you could trust to go out and get a little bit of light intel and show back up at the house.
You know what I'm saying, though?
Like, you have real.
Recon cow.
Yeah.
Yeah, I get you.
You have a fucking cow that could recon out there and then shake that bell if shit's fucking getting wiry.
Just put a GoPro on them, man.
Come and come back.
You watch it.
Like, oh, I knew those motherfuckers were out there, man.
God damn it.
I'm not saying you could send a little shepherd.
You know, you could send a little German shepherd out there or a British shepherd or anything.
You can do whatever you want, man.
I'm just...
But I don't think I want to be the guy sitting on my porch without a weapon.
Yeah, I mean, you definitely don't want to be the guy that's unarmed in that situation, right?
I mean, without a weapon, you're...
Hopefully not.
I mean, things are looking better already.
Right.
But if shit goes down the drain, you do not want to be the guy that's unarmed.
It's like being in prison and you're not in one of those racial gangs yet.
You know what I mean?
It's like showing up in prison without a butthole.
Literally.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like, I mean, what are you offering then?
If you don't got a butthole, what are you doing?
Right.
Well, it's like, how are we going to when everybody else, you don't want to be the guy without A butthole because you're not going to fucking last very long.
You know what I'm saying?
Do you guys have weapons, Nick?
Gianni, you guys have weapons or no?
I just bought a gun, but my older brother has a gun.
My dad has like six guns.
But your dad doesn't live here, does he?
No.
Okay, so that's out of the picture.
So you have one gun between you and your brother.
But I bought a shotgun and I bought a 9mm.
Okay.
There it is.
Nick?
I have no guns, but I want to, but it sounds like a hassle.
I know it's not that big of a deal.
You just have to go twice, but I don't know.
Yeah, no, man.
We'll help you out, brother.
We got options.
Word, word.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We got you, man.
And then I wonder if, like, but at a certain point, do you worry that they would shut down the gun stores?
Yeah, I'm not too worried about that.
You know, I'm ready to rock and roll.
Have you had people come to buy a weapon and you knew that they were going to use it for crime?
Oh, yeah.
I got a few good stories like that.
Sometimes you get those precarious characters, man.
Oh, yeah.
And they come in like, hey, man, I'm looking for a pocket 9mm.
I'm like, oh, okay.
And we do sell small, you know, concealable handguns.
And they're like, oh, okay, yeah, let me see that.
And then they don't want to know about the specs.
They don't give a shit about it.
They don't care about anything about the gun.
They're just like, oh, yeah, let me see that.
And they kind of hold it.
And then they're like, they just put it in their pocket.
I'm just like, and I'm just like, I'm like, hey, man, can you not put it in your pocket?
He's just like, hey, I'm just seeing if it fits.
And I'm like, oh, okay.
And then I saw a dude one time, he put it in his pocket, and he pulls it out and draws it, like on the table, right at my chest.
He's just like that.
And I'm like, and I'm just like, all right.
I mean, we got guns pointed at us all day over there.
And I pointed at you on accident a couple times, remember?
It's okay, man.
Listen, I've had, I mean, we have times where people are pointing shotguns, 12-gauge shotguns right there, eye-level, like at the counter.
You guys like, call me the N-word.
And you're like, I'm not doing that, dude.
I'm not doing it, bro.
The guy's like, pretend you work at a bank.
And you're like, uh-huh.
What are you going to call it, dude?
Oh, dude.
Man, when I was like 18, I worked at Big Five, you know, and I was there, and we sell BB guns at Big Five, BB handguns.
And they look real, you know?
And I remember these two brothers came in, and they came in there, and they're looking, and they're, you know, they smell like weed, and they're like, oh, yeah, man, I'm looking for that handgun right there.
That shit look real.
I'm like, okay.
So I show it to him.
And they're there.
He's just looking at it.
He's like, yeah, man, this will do the job.
And I'm just like, oh, you guys, like, what are you guys doing with it?
And he's just like, oh, nothing, you know?
And then, like, as a joke, he points it at his friend in his head.
He yells at him in the store.
Everyone turns around and looks.
He's like, he's like, run me them shoes, motherfucker.
And he's like screaming at his friend.
And I was like, oh, shit, man.
Like, these guys are like, just role-playing kind of stuff.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
But they're like, and they're like, oh, yeah, this will work.
They bought it.
It was like $90, you know?
Damn.
Fake handgun.
So, yeah, you see, so there's people, so there's people coming in.
Have you had somebody come in and you knew have you ever had somebody straight up tell you, like, don't sell me a gun because I'm going to kill somebody?
No, but I mean, you know, we have to ask those questions.
Like, I asked you, Theo, like, hey, man, you ever can, you know, there's four questions that you have to ask, and then you have the whole list, you know, and when they're filling out the paperwork and they're asking if you're a convicted felon, they're like, hmm.
And, like, I see people struggle on it.
They're like, what if I was convicted, but it wasn't like a violent felony?
And I'm just like, yeah, I can't do that.
I just kind of take the paperwork.
I'm like, sorry.
Like, if you've been convicted of a felony, unless it's been completely acquitted, you know, unless you've been completely found non-guilty of the crime, like you haven't been convicted, then if you're a convicted felon, we can't sell your gun for the rest of your life.
Ever for the rest of your life.
The rest of your life.
Yeah.
Cannot do it.
Yeah, the test was pretty tricky, I remember.
Can you bring up that test, Nate?
I could not find it.
Okay.
California FSC test.
Firearm safety certificate.
How many did you get wrong, Theo?
Do you remember?
I think I got three wrong.
He got three wrong.
Me too.
27 out of 30. Yeah.
It took me longer than most people to take the test, though, I feel like.
It took you a while, man, but you're making jokes while you were doing it, too, man.
I remember everyone was laughing when you were taking the test because you were saying some funny shit.
Well, I was trying to sneakily get information out of people, too.
I was trying to start a little conversation and then see if somebody would drop a little hint of Intel.
Because some of the questions were a little bit tough, I felt like.
It took me about 40 minutes to take it.
That's probably looking like a study guide.
You can take a practice test, like California FSC practice test, and they'll have some of the questions on there.
It's funny because people get the same ones wrong all the time.
It's always the same questions that they get wrong.
Yeah, it was.
Some of it was tough for me, the age at which you can buy a firearm.
Yeah, it's 21 for long guns and handguns in California.
It used to be 18 for long guns, 21 for handguns.
They changed that.
They changed that, I believe, 2019, January 1st, 2019.
And here's a question right here.
Is it legal to store a loaded firearm in the premises where children have access to?
No, it's not.
Yeah.
Let's see.
Have Theo take it.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Definitely.
Wood is not a part of a cartridge or a shotgun shell.
I'm going to go with the choke.
What types of sight do the handgun shooters use?
That's a dumb question.
That's a really dumb question.
I would say A. All of the above, I mean, D. A sale or transfer of firearm between two private parties must be completed through a licensed firearms dealer only if the buyer and seller do not personally know each other.
That is false.
It must be completed between a licensed dealer no matter what.
That's the one I got wrong.
Yeah, I didn't know that.
That's the one most people get wrong during the FFC.
So if I want to sell a friend a gun, I want to sell Gianni or Nick a gun, I have to go through a licensed dealer.
Come by to us or any other gun store.
Tell them you want to do a private party transfer.
They're going to charge you a small fee.
We pretty much get both you guys' information.
The gun is then legally transferred over to the person that you're selling it to.
The money doesn't go through us or anything like that.
We just collect our small fee.
Money is all handled outside of the store.
Within 10 days, the buyer can come pick it up, and that's it.
Just like a normal process, we just hold on to the gun for 10 days.
Come pick it up.
And if I sell it to Gianni just without going through a licensed dealer, then...
There's felony.
Wow.
Damn.
Yeah.
Is that just in California or is that everywhere?
Some states do not have no need for a background check for private party.
So I believe Texas is one of those states.
I mean, you'll have like videos of people buying guns in like a McDonald's bathroom.
You know what I mean?
Hey, let's meet up.
And then they're selling a goddamn Glock 19. Who's producing that?
Why can't we do that, Nick?
Yeah.
Probably cigarette in them.
Generally, it is legal to carry a concealed firearm In public, under which of the following circumstances?
You're an experienced gun handler and know all the safety rules.
You are honorably discharged from the military.
You are in an unsafe area.
Is it legal to carry a farm in public under which of the following circumstances?
I'm on guard.
I'm on.
I'm none of the above.
Yeah.
That's none.
I'm in Gardena, bro.
I can carry a gun, man.
It's cool.
No, I'm just joking, man.
Yeah, it's hard to get a concealed carry license in California, man.
It's pretty difficult.
LA County, nearly impossible, unless you know somebody.
Right.
Wow.
Yeah.
The first cartridge loaded into a magazine presses against the...
I would go with magazine spring, but I have no idea.
Oh, it's follower.
That one.
The follower?
Yeah, the follower is a little piece of plastic or metal that's in front of the magazine spring that pushes up on the cartridge.
That's a dumb question.
That's not even on the real FSU.
Yeah, it's not on the test.
Yeah.
But these are some of the questions that are on there.
Smokeless plowder, black powder, that wasn't on there.
Nah, yeah.
I feel like this might be an old version of the test or something.
But some of the questions are on there, but.
Yeah.
Do you see any of these that are the actual test?
Because I Googled what you...
The gun handle.
Any of these links, he's saying.
Oh, I'm not sure.
Not sure.
I actually liked it.
I owned about more than 10 guns without ever taking the FSE test.
Because before, I mean, you can buy guns if you have a hunting license.
They just played with the law a little bit now, but you can buy long guns at 18 still now if you have a hunting license.
So I was 18. I mean, I got a hunting license and I was like 12, right?
But so when I turned 18 with my hunting license, I was able to buy a bunch of long guns.
So that's what I did.
So I never even took that test until I actually started working there.
Wow.
Yeah, no idea.
So that's just because that's a new legislate, new law, you have to take that test?
That test also, when you're 21, you can buy a handgun.
That's before.
And the hunting license does not apply to handguns.
Oh, I see.
Weirdly enough, for me to buy a handgun, I had to take that FSC test.
And then plus, I mean, I've graded 20 of them before I ever took the test.
Do you think that you could shoot somebody?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think I can.
Yeah.
Awesome, man.
I mean, I grew up hunting, man, and that's...
Where would I shoot somebody?
Yeah.
Well, it depends, man.
Be honest, bro, though.
Well, I'll be honest with you, man.
If you're in a situation where if you have to pull out a firearm and you're going to use it on somebody, you're shooting to kill.
You're not going to shoot them in the leg.
Because if you're shooting somebody in the leg, you're in a situation where you have the intention to injure them, where you're trying to stop one of their behaviors by injury.
Especially in California and most states, when you're actually going to use a firearm on somebody and you're not law enforcement, you're pulling out that gun.
That gun is coming out because your life is currently, your life will be taken if you don't use this.
Or somebody in your house or someone, your family member, they're going to step dead.
Or somebody.
No, exactly.
Yeah.
Somebody in that house or somebody where you are is going to die or going to be grievously injured if you do not use this firearm.
So if you're using that gun, you're using it to put an immediate end to the fight.
And you have videos, all types of videos of people getting shot 15 times and they're still doing what they're doing because none of the shots are lethal.
Well, they might be lethal eventually, but they're not immediately debilitating.
You got to turn the lights off if you're going to shoot.
So you're talking here or here.
That's it.
That's where you would shoot.
I'd rather shoot somebody in the chest, I think, because I don't want to shoot somebody in the face, you know, because I want to look at them and their face is all fucked up.
Oh, yeah.
And then it's just the back end's blown out.
Yeah, you don't want to see that.
And do you – Do you...
Have you ever seen anyone shoot somebody else?
Okay, well, not like...
I've never seen like a...
I've technically been shot many, many times.
I go hunting, right?
I mostly hunt birds because Southern California is the biggest kind of hunting season there is, dove hunting.
And if you're in these busy fields going dove hunting, there's people on the other side of the field and they're shooting doves and all those pellets are flying in the air and they land on you.
Like one time my dad shot me, like pretty close.
It stung like a motherfucker.
But yeah, but it was a shotgun shooting tiny little bird shot.
But I was a good, you know, 50 yards away.
So it stung like a motherfucker.
But, you know, hey, man, accidents happen, especially when you're, you know, whipping birds flying around.
Especially when you're aiming at your fucking son, I bet.
Yeah, you know, I kind of pissed him off that day, man.
Yeah, so I was thinking he kind of just wanted to punish me a little bit.
I was kind of at the age where he can't really smack me around anymore.
Oh, yeah.
So he's just like, I was like, he's just like, oh, I saw a quail over there.
I didn't see that fucking quail, but yeah, I mean.
He gets you a jacket that has four quails on the back of it.
Yeah, exactly.
Dude, no orange on me, man.
He's shooting through the bush.
Hell yeah, dude.
Yeah.
I mean, it sucks, but if you go dove hunting in a busy field, you will get shot with a shotgun.
I promise you you will.
I like that.
I don't have any scars from it, but technically speaking, yeah, I've been hit with a projectile from a firearm, yes.
Yeah.
Do you think that a lot of the people you've been selling guns to in this recent surge of gun sales has been people that are more on the liberal side of politics?
Yeah, I would say yeah.
A lot of people that I talked to were admittingly...
And that's the thing, man.
I'm not big on that word liberal because in the class...
It's all right.
In the classical sense, liberal means like, oh, you believe in the freedom of the individual.
Right.
Right.
which would be pro-gun.
So, I mean, yeah, I mean, like...
For sure.
For sure.
Definitely a lot of that.
A lot of people admittingly, and you can kind of just tell, you know, just by the way they look and the way they act, the way they dress.
You can kind of figure it out.
Same thing with conservatives.
You can kind of just point them out.
Oh, yeah.
For sure.
But a lot of them admittingly, like, oh, I never thought I'd be buying a gun.
I never thought I'd be ever doing something like this, but here I am.
And a lot of them were upset with themselves.
A lot of times, like, oh, first time gun buyer?
And I was trying to make conversation because we're doing paperwork.
You excited?
They're like, nope.
And I'm like, oh, why are you here, man?
And they're like, I'm just like, I don't even want a gun, man, but I feel like I need one.
Wow.
And that's what a lot of people were saying.
A lot of people were saying that.
Yeah, it's interesting, man, because I think that's even how I felt a little bit.
I felt like I wanted to kind of have one for a little bit, but this was definitely Just the fear of the uncertainty of what's going to go on or what could go on.
Broke the camel's back, huh?
Yeah.
There it is.
Yeah, I totally understand.
I resonate with that.
I get it.
But that was most people that were buying guns in this big surge, especially here in California.
Yeah.
New gun buyers.
Definitely.
First time.
First time.
Brand new.
Never shot a gun before.
How long do you think?
So this 10 day's been a little long.
How long do you think that this thing's going to...
I mean, you think it'll be another 10 days, do you think?
Yeah.
But people get impatient.
I mean, I had people, like, when the big rush yell at me because they didn't know it was a 10-day waiting period.
So they're buying the gun.
They think they can take it home the same day.
And I'll sell them the gun.
I'll go through the whole paperwork.
And then I'll tell them, oh, yeah, so here's your pickup date.
And they're like, what?
I need to get the gun now.
I'm like, yeah, well, okay, I can't do that, man.
It's a 10-day waiting period here in California.
10 days?
I had people like, there's not going to be a fucking city in 10 days, man.
I need this gun right now.
Yeah, oh, yeah.
I heard a few people say that.
Kind of like an Ozark.
You watch Ozark or no?
I watched first season.
Yeah.
It's kind of one of those shows that I feel like it's like good until you realize it's not any fucking good.
But in the second season, they try to get a baby, and they try to get it.
There's like a 10-day waiting period, and the guy's like, no, we need this baby right now, dude.
What could you need a baby for an emergency, man?
Fucking, it's Ozark.
Yeah, yeah, no.
I need this baby to guard my house.
It really kind of did.
Really?
Yeah, it was kind of a part of a weird trade-off or some shit.
Oh, yeah.
I'll give you a baby if you launder this money for me, man.
I'll give you a million dollars if they give me your fucking baby, man.
I mean, yeah, you basically just let you listed all the plots.
It's like buying a tiger.
Yeah, you listed all the plots of season two.
Any other questions, guys?
Something you guys are thinking about?
Are there any people recently you're like they shouldn't have a gun, but you yeah, yeah, I would say there's some people I feel like not that they shouldn't have one, but I'm like they should really they should really you know work on it if they're gonna buy a gun.
You know, like they should really work on their skills and their capability of manipulating the firearm before they really get this gun.
So I really, highly, I mean, I always tell them I highly recommend training.
Highly recommend when you get the firearm, keep the ammunition away from it and just learn how the gun works.
Watch YouTube.
It's a huge resource for firearms.
If you watch somewhere on the, you know, anything on the internet like that, you can learn a lot just from there.
That's why I learned a lot of the information I have about firearms.
I learned through the internet or reading books.
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They also have you work at a gunsmithing place?
Yeah, I've been there longer than the gun shop yesterday.
And what is that when you talk about gunsmithing?
What is that?
So gunsmithing pretty much entails repairs, modifications, custom builds.
I mean, it could be even little things.
Mounting a scope onto a rifle, cleaning guns.
So we do all of that.
I really like old guns, military surplus stuff.
So whenever we get old guns in there, that's like really my thing.
Like sea war type shit, Civil War?
Oh, well, yeah, not too much Civil War.
I mean, I like Confederate stuff because it's got a richer history in terms of firearm stuff, you know, but they had less of a manufacturing base back in the Civil War.
But a lot of World War II pieces, you know, military surplus stuff, some World War I stuff, which I really like.
Just even old hunting rifles that are out of production are just cool in general.
So the two guns that I got, one is a Beretta.
It's a 9mm, right?
Yeah, it's a Breda M9.
And you said it was one of the most popular...
Huge in law enforcement for a long time.
Still is.
It was issued to the military.
U.S. Army, Marine Corps, the Navy as well, Air Force, pretty much the entire aspect of the U.S. military.
Yeah, there you go.
The Beretta M9.
First manufactured in Italy, but the one you guys made in the U.S. Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
That's the best way to go.
All metal, all-steel frame, all-steel slide, single double action.
Yeah, I mean, it's pretty much the Bruce Willis of guns.
I like that, man.
And single double action means that when you pull this hammer's down, it's a long, heavy trigger pull because that trigger, mechanically speaking, has to pull that hammer back and then drop it.
After the gun fires and the slide works back and then forward again, that's automatically going to push the hammer to the rear.
So now it's just a short, easy, light trigger pull just to drop that hammer, and that makes the gun a lot easier to shoot.
Yeah.
And this is really your basic man's gun.
You get some men that come in and their arms are almost too weak to hold up a gun and you still have to sell them a gun?
Yeah.
I mean, if they want a specific gun, then they got it.
I mean, I remember that.
I had a little, I had a while ago, I had a, and for the whole rush, I had a, I had like an 85-year-old African-American woman, and she was with a cane, you know, just frail.
And she came and she's like, young man, I'm looking for a double-barrel shotgun.
Damn.
I was like, yeah, okay, we actually, we got double-barrel shotguns.
I put one in her hands, and she's like, oh, it's too heavy.
You got something else?
Like, it was like, yeah.
So I actually got her a little Ruger, like a LCR.
It's a polymer frame revolver, super lightweight.
She was able to handle it.
But there's a lot of misconceptions around guns, you know, because most people's basis of gun knowledge is going to come from the media.
It's going to come from movies, video games, TV shows, and they are notoriously bad at giving out accurate information about firearms.
Notoriously bad.
Have you had people come in and say, I want the gun that's in this game?
Yep.
That's crazy.
Yep.
Kids that are just turning 21, they're like, hey, what's that on the wall?
I'm like, oh, that's a Chris Vector.
You know, it's a sweet, decked out looking little sub-machine gun thing.
It's not an actual machine gun.
It's a carbine.
It's semi-automatic because we're not getting...
That's Chris Vector.
Yeah.
Let's see that.
And it's like, oh, yeah, man, I used to run that thing in Call of Duty, man.
to run that thing in Modern Warfare 2. Wow.
Or just like, I mean, I had a dude come in there, didn't know anything about guns.
He was a rich guy.
he came up in a Porsche.
He was like, I'm looking for the revolver that Dirty Harry used.
Wow.
In Dirty Harry.
I'm like, all right, like the one like, you know, Clint Eastwood used.
And he's like, yeah, that's the one.
I'm like, all right, it's a Smith Wesson Model 29. And I hand it to him.
But we actually had one.
They still make him a commercial production.
There you go.
44 Magnum.
And he was like, Yeah, I'll take it.
Didn't want to know anything about the gun.
Just wanted it because it was in Dirty Harry.
Yeah, that's it.
So it's just amazing to me that someone sees it in a video game or something like, oh, now I got to have this.
Yeah, they just want it.
Especially if it's a game from like Grand Theft Auto.
You're driving around with that.
Yeah, yeah.
On your lap, man.
Just shooting motherfuckers.
Yeah, that's just how it is.
Have you ever sold a gun that was used in a crime or murder?
I wouldn't know.
We do get police trade-in guns, and it's not unheard of for police departments to have to pick up guns.
I mean, all around the country, they pick up guns in crimes, and then they pretty much clear the crime out, but they still have the firearm that they confiscated off somebody.
And then they'll resell it to gun stores, and the gun stores will sell it used for a cheap price.
It's really, really popular.
So there's plenty of guns out there that have, I'm sure they have some bodies on them.
Like, I got an old SKS, right?
Oh, you've seen it in, I think in Call of Duty.
An SKS?
I think so.
I don't know, man.
It was a rifle used in the Vietnam War.
The one I have was manufactured in China.
But it's a cool rifle.
Dang, yeah.
Yeah, and it's an awesome rifle.
It was the first gun I ever bought, man.
When I turned 18, I bought that thing.
And the one I got was a Vietnam bringback.
So some veteran was in Vietnam, probably smoked some Vietnamese dude, had an SKS, and then took it home when he came back from the war.
So who knows what that rifle has seen?
You know, yeah.
And I mean, the one I got was made in 1953.
So it's definitely seen something, you know?
That was some killing years back then.
It's older than my pops.
Oh, yeah, man.
I mean, that thing was probably like, you know, early stage of Vietnam War, you know, and they were used fighting.
I mean, there's originally a Russian gun.
The gun was invented by a Russian inventor, Simonov.
But then, you know how the Russians are, you know, they're communists in the Soviet Union.
So all of their designs, after they kind of were declared antiquated, they kind of just spread it around the, you know, the socialist United World.
And so China pretty much got the manufacturing rights to make these, and the Chinese loved them, and they made them in the millions.
There's millions of these things around the world right now.
You have pictures of African tribesmen.
You see them a lot with those guns.
Extended earlobes, the whole thing.
And they're not even wearing Western clothing.
And they have an old Chinese SKS over their shoulder.
That's their gun.
That's wild.
Isn't it interesting?
So much of the firearms trade that goes on.
It's unbelievable.
I mean, whatever you think is going on commercially in the U.S., just think under the table internationally.
Insane.
I mean, you have countries that you wouldn't even expect, like HK in Germany, massive firearms producer.
They sold, I think, like 20,000 G3 rifles to Saudi Arabia.
And then all of a sudden, they found a bunch of these rifles in the hands of ISIS in Syria.
Or they found them in these militia groups in al-Nusra in Syria.
And they have all these G3 rifles that were just sent to Saudi Arabia.
So there's actually a lot of international organizations that kind of track where these things show up.
I mean, there's pictures of the conflict in Syria, the Civil War, where they're driving a Panzer IV from World War II, a German tank.
You know, it's like, where the fuck did they get that shit?
That thing weighs 25 tons.
Where the fuck did they get that?
Dude, there's pictures of fucking ISIS driving old Ford Tauruses as well, dude.
Oh, yeah.
But I'm just saying, there's such a secondary market that it's so funny, like how on the surface would be like, you know, no guns, no guns, no guns.
And then if you go and look at how America makes money, one of the ways is through selling firearms to different countries.
It's crazy.
Firearms is a fraction of it.
If you think about the military-industrial complex, we're talking weapon systems.
I mean, fighter jets, missiles, things that one single F-35, right, Lightning II, that are pretty much our newest fifth generation multi-role jet.
I mean, they're worth fucking billions of dollars.
Just the whole program itself.
And they're sent and they're sold to all these countries and NATO.
And I mean, all these weapon systems just end up in the hands of all types of people.
It's the weapons trade, not just small arms, not just machine guns and rifles.
Software too, even.
Everything, everything.
Intercontinental ballistic missiles, old submarines, ships, everything, everything.
The defense industry internationally and even under the table is fucking monumental.
Monumental.
Do you think any guns are unnecessary for normal people to have?
Or are you just like, I think everybody should have everything.
Everyone should be a right?
What do you think?
That's tough.
Like, you have in certain states and stuff, giving certain licensing, which apparently isn't terribly hard to get.
You can get an old Soviet artillery gun.
And there's people, private owners that own tanks with live guns in them, 75mm cannons, machine guns.
I don't think anyone should be barred from owning those things, but I understand the licensing required to have something destructive.
That's what the ATF calls certain things, just destructive devices, quote unquote.
And these firearms, I mean, not even firearms, but you have weapons that are devastating.
And I can understand the logic of like, yeah, maybe we shouldn't give, you know, like inner city crime gangs RPGs, right?
Right.
However, I think if you're if you're a law, like a law-abiding owner and you can use those things responsibly, I don't think there should be limitations on what you can get, especially because it's a slippery slope.
I mean, you can see it here in California.
Right, but then also, like, imagine if the guy who like shoots up the Las Vegas, you know, if that guy had an RPG, it'd be insane.
Yeah, I mean, who knows?
I suppose.
I mean, it would fire a rocket, right?
I mean, he did plenty of damage with an AR-15 anyway.
Well, supposedly an AR-15.
Who knows?
I don't know what he used.
I think a lot of AR-15 is what they say.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I understand the logic.
I don't necessarily agree with it.
It's kind of tricky.
It's just really tricky.
I don't know how I feel about it.
Because, so in addition to the Bretta, what is the other piece of gun that I bought?
You bought an AR-15 lower receiver.
So what I mentioned earlier is that the only Johnny little bastard.
The only serialized part of that, yeah, there you go.
That's called a stripped lower.
that's what I got.
So, that's considered a firearm, it's a piece of aluminum with holes in it.
Okay, that's a gun.
That's a gun, right?
That's considered a gun.
So, I had to buy this piece in order to be able to have this.
Yeah, and the one you got costed you about 40 bucks.
And then now I can build the rest of the game.
All the other parts, internal parts, kits, trigger group, buffer tube, the upper receiver, the barrel, everything you need on that gun.
You can order it online and have it delivered to your house.
Given you have a little bit of know-how and some simple tools, we'll throw it together for you, and you'll have an AR-15.
It's not like a loophole.
What can I do with an AR-15?
Shoot stuff.
Okay.
Yeah, they're fucking sick, man.
AR-15s are probably the coolest rifles you can get your hands on, in my opinion, in the United States.
I mean, it's like the Ford F-150 of guns.
Everyone's got one, right?
Especially in the country.
Yeah, man, they're the most popular rifle in the United States.
Semi-automatic.
It shoots a very controllable, easy-to-use cartridge.
AR-15s have been used.
How many shoots can I do at once in this?
Depends on the size of the magazine you have inside of the gun, but swapping a magazine is not very hard.
So a standard capacity magazine throughout the country is 30 rounds.
That's what the military uses on their ARs.
California, the limits 10 rounds per magazine.
But I mean, they make 60-round drum magazines, 100-round drum magazines for them.
I'll probably stick with 30 or 60. Right.
Well, you'll get 10. Yeah, I'll do 10. Yeah.
California, man?
Yeah, California is.
Yeah, you got 10. Yeah.
Same thing in your pistol.
Your pistol's supposed to hold, what, 15 rounds in the magazine?
California, you get 10. 10. That's the rule.
That's the rule.
10 rounds limit for whatever gun in California.
I like that.
Yeah, that's the thing.
If you can't get it done in 10, you deserve to die, I think.
Fair enough.
You know what I'm saying, though?
Like, if you can't get it done in 10 shots, you fucking, you know what I'm saying?
You fucking shot the guy's wife.
You fucking killed two animals.
You fucking blew out your fucking bedroom wall.
Knocked out every streetlight on your block, man.
Yeah.
At that point, you need to go.
You're really the.
At that point, it's your turn.
Yeah.
You're the one really causing the most trouble at that point.
Right.
I just don't like it because I don't like the government telling me how many rounds they think is enough.
Right.
Police officers don't need to follow that rule.
The military doesn't have to.
I mean, I can go to Nevada.
You drive five hours away and they're 200-round belt-fed fucking machine guns over there.
You can have that there?
Yeah, I mean, with a machine gun, yeah, I give them the licensing.
Wow.
Yeah, but the magazine capacity is not limited in most states.
I believe California, I believe Massachusetts, New York, a few other states have magazine capacity limits.
Colorado, I think, too.
See, it's funny because I believe that some semi-automatic weapons people shouldn't have.
I believe that people shouldn't be able to just rattle off 700 rounds.
Right.
But then here I am buying a semi-automatic weapon.
You buy two semi-automatic weapons.
And one's a quite capable rifle, and the other one's a very well-loved and well-used semi-automatic pistol.
Jesus.
Nah, man.
Hey, they're cool, man.
I mean, once they're all done, I'm taking you out and we're going to the range.
All right, man.
Take you guys too, man.
It'll be a good time.
I just don't want to fucking shoot somebody or myself, dude.
Nah, man, come on.
Dude, you're not going to shoot anybody.
We'll be fine.
Are you going a separate day then, Theo?
Oh, yeah, don't.
We'll go the next day, man.
Don't worry.
We'll leave Theo out there.
We'll just get him the next day, man.
He'll be fine.
Don't worry.
Do you have a feeling in your life that you'll ever shoot someone?
I pray to God that I fucking don't.
Do I have a feeling I would?
I don't think that's a good thing.
Like, really, what does your gut tell you?
What did my gut tell me that I might?
Damn, man.
Well, I would say, oh, fuck, that's tricky.
Given the situation now, I would say it's not terribly unlikely.
I knew this old dude, and he shot some people that broke into his house.
And he was telling me about it.
He said it was fucking terrible.
But I really hope I don't want to.
No, I don't think I will, man.
I live in a fairly secure complex.
So I don't think so.
But I mean, I like guns for the, I like recreational shooting.
Like, that's one of my favorite hobbies in the world.
I go hunting.
I love it, man.
I love it.
I shoot archery, too.
It's awesome.
Yeah, I want to get into some more of these types of things.
That's why I'm excited to get out to the range.
I mean, I did notice immediately whenever you started to teach me, even in the store, about how to load the gun, unload the gun, like the steps to go through.
By the end of that, I felt five times more confident even just picking the gun up.
And I just felt a lot more like, okay, now I have some education that goes along with this thing.
It's not just a errant thing that could just kill me at any moment.
Like now I understand, okay, this is how it behaves.
This is how I need to use it.
These are the protocols I need to go through.
Exactly.
So it was really interesting to me just to notice how immediately when I had that education, it really adjusted the way that the gun felt to me.
It makes a world of difference, man.
People talk about accidental shootings and then how dangerous guns can be in the home.
But if you have the experience and the knowledge and the know-how and the confidence to utilize that firearm confidently, there's no chance of it injuring you or anyone else because if you followed all the proper protocols, it's an inanimate object just like anything else.
It's going to hurt you as much as this glass bottle will.
It makes no difference.
It's just an object.
The only thing that gives it the capability of being lethal is somebody either making a mistake or someone using it with malintention.
That's it.
That's it.
Do you feel like as the fear of the pandemic and stuff goes away, that you'll see a resurgence of people selling their guns back?
I think so.
Yeah, I think so.
I think a lot of people are just buying them and they don't know what the hell they're going to do with them.
And I think as soon as they have the opportunity to get rid of it, I think the used gun market after all this is over is going to be booming.
And where does the used gun market send guns to?
So guns?
Gun stores?
Gun stores.
Oh, they'll sell it.
I mean, there's a lot of forums online where they're, oh, hey, I'm selling this gun.
We'll do a private party, meet at this gun store.
They do the private party, and that's it.
A lot of times people are like, hey, I just want to get rid of the gun.
I don't care about finding Someone willing to buy it.
So they sell it to gun stores, and then the gun stores will resell them for profit.
Have you ever sold a gun to a guy with like teardrop tattoos by his eye?
Yep.
I have, yeah.
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, hey, if they pass the background check, who am I to say that they can't own the gun?
Right.
You don't really have that jurisdiction.
No, I don't.
Well, I have the ability to choose who I sell a gun to.
I can say, no, I'm not going to sell you a gun.
But, I mean, I'm not trying to cause those issues.
I'm not going to try to be stuck up.
And that kind of ability, that kind of mindset can lead to people being, you know, using that to pretty much be racist or something, right?
If they see someone, oh, let's say I don't like Asian people, right?
Oh, I'm not going to sell any Asian people a gun.
That's crazy, man.
That's crazy.
If they have the ability to buy a gun legally, like who's your responsibility?
Hell no.
It's not.
Yeah.
You're just working at a place that sells guns.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But like you said, I mean, if somebody's high, you cannot sell them a gun.
Yeah, that just comes down to the law.
If I can literally smell marijuana, I can get in trouble for selling them or even serving them or even putting a gun in their hands if they smell like marijuana, which I think is crazy, but that's just the rules.
Have you ever had a person where you're like, you had to ask him, like, are you planning on killing somebody with this gun?
No, I never had to do that.
Would you do it if you felt compelled to do it?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I'm pretty outspoken at the store.
You have a lot of people that are kind of shy that work there.
But yeah, I mean, I like to crack jokes there and stuff.
It's a gun store, man.
How seriously can you take your job?
I'm having a good time.
So yeah, it was awesome in there.
I felt way more machismo once I got in there.
They got all kind of stuff.
Little buckets you could sit on.
They got all type of fishing stuff, nets you could catch stuff.
They had gloves for all type of different things you could do with gloves.
I mean, we have a whole fishing section.
All types of fun stuff.
Yeah.
You ever been to Bass Pro Shops?
Yeah.
That's the fucking record right there, man.
That's the fucking place, dude.
Yeah, they're real nice.
You can do whatever you want there.
Fellows?
I'm good.
Johnny wants to talk.
I know Johnny.
No, I just have one more.
This might be a crazy question.
Has anyone ever tried to rob your store?
Or have you ever heard of anyone trying to rob a gun store?
I've asked that question to my manager, and apparently our location was robbed a long, long time ago.
Due to just like, there's a lot of gun stores, especially more like family, not family-oriented, but like smaller businesses where the people in there are armed.
And most of those places don't get hit.
Turner's is a corporation, and due to, I guess, insurance purposes, they don't want us to be armed.
So we're not armed in the store.
That was going to be my last question.
Yeah, well, we're not armed in the store at all over there.
How quickly could you reach for an arm, though?
We can get a gun, but I mean, we don't have loaded magazines or ammunition on us, nor would we terribly be inclined to retaliate considering if someone's in there ready to rob a gun store, they probably don't give a fuck, and they probably got guns ready to rock and roll.
So if we're in a position where we're already at a deficit just due to the fact that we don't have loaded weapons on us, retaliation is probably not the best idea.
What would you do then?
Run.
Get the fuck out of there.
Why would someone rob a gun store for a gun if they have a gun?
Yeah, they have a gun, but then they can just go in there and steal 100 guns.
More guns.
Yeah, they fucking break in the glass, and if they steal a bunch of guns, then fuck, man.
I mean, that's a lot of money.
Is there a method of that microstamping you think that could work?
Because some of it does seem a little bit archaic when you think about it, that you have this gun, you have this bullet, that there isn't a way to definitely track and know what's going on, you know?
Just because we have so much technology now.
Right.
I can see microstamping maybe working in the way where you'll have the ability to track the gun.
However, practically speaking, that would significantly increase the price of the firearm.
Right.
And it's very easily worked around.
I mean, it's really easy to scratch out the serial number of a gun.
It's really easy to scratch out something like microstamping.
Just a little bit of a graphic.
Right, yeah.
And it says that the microstamping wears out.
It just wears out with use.
So imagine if I intentionally try to get rid of it.
Or if I just replace the part that has the microstamping on it.
Just buy a replacement firing pin.
Yeah, I'm just wondering what the technology is that will allow you to get it done.
Microstamping seems like it's like an attempt at that.
I'm just trying to just think.
Do you feel like everyone should be able to own a gun?
Yeah, unless you're mentally incompetent or a hardened criminal.
I would say yes.
I would say yeah, everyone should have the ability to.
Unless you're, I mean, just completely irresponsible.
Yeah, I mean, it's, I don't necessarily see it as a right that's given to us.
It's a right that a human being should have inherently.
I'm not a religious guy.
People say like, oh, these rights are God-given.
I'm not religious at all.
But I feel like, you know, I believe people.
Yeah, God never had a gun, really.
Yeah.
I feel like people should have inherent rights, man.
Like, if you're just a human being, you have freedom of speech.
You're allowed to express yourself, right?
You're allowed to vote politically.
You're allowed to, you know, not be enslaved, right?
You're just a free human being.
You should be able to have a tool to protect your life and the life of people around you.
So I think unless you're completely mentally incompetent or a hardened, dangerous criminal, then yeah, everyone should have the right to own a gun.
We have a world that has guns in it.
Do you wish that we had a world that somebody had just never invented guns?
And since I like guns so much, no.
However, admittingly, things would be, I would say, less lethal if there was no guns.
But for a much longer period than guns have ever existed, there's still been massive war and conflict.
Coming back to the classical era.
But people love killing each other.
Exactly.
It doesn't matter if you've got a gun or not.
It doesn't matter.
I mean, people, I mean, they would ride horses with lances on them and go and stab people to death.
Thousands would die in single battles.
It doesn't make a difference.
Yeah, people love to kill each other.
I mean, even the mayor of Baltimore announced that had to ask people to stop killing each other so they could save the hospitals for COVID patients, for COVID.
Please stop shooting people.
That's really what he said.
So, yeah, people love to.
Yeah, Baltimore mayor begs residents to stop shooting each other so hospital beds can be used for coronavirus patients.
So, I mean, that's real shit.
I also think it was who came out.
I think it was the mayor of Dallas.
He was saying that, oh, like, like, criminals, like, chill.
Criminals take it easy because, like, we all just want to go home at the end of the day, so just relax for now.
I thought it was pretty ridiculous.
Yeah, just take a break, criminals.
Actually, before this, I was having Easter brunch with a friend of mine.
His stepfather is a California highway patrolman.
He's been at this for like 30 years.
Brendan's stepdad, actually.
And he was telling me that crime is down except for auto theft.
Auto theft is the only crime that's up.
That makes sense.
A lot more cars just parked now.
Yeah.
Yeah, ready to go.
Like, if you're a burglar, you got to do something.
You still got to work.
You still need money, man, if you're living that life.
You got to get out there.
Yeah, for sure.
Well, man, it was interesting.
Yeah, I just found it so interesting, Nico, that because I came in and you just knew so much about weapons and I was like, man, this is kind of fascinating.
And I was like everything.
I was excited to be buying a gun.
I was scared to be buying a gun, kind of.
I was kind of glad I finally felt like at least confident and adult enough within myself to be like, okay, I can have a gun in my house and I'm not going to shoot a buddy or something for fun.
You're doing things crazy.
So, yeah.
And then you said, man, there's just so many people buying guns right now.
And it was just really interesting to me.
You know, in a state that, you know, a lot of times you hear a lot of people like no guns, no guns.
And then this type of, we get into this Corvid and everybody's gunning out.
Oh, oh, yeah.
I mean, just the numbers are mind-blowing.
Just the numbers are mind-blowing.
There's going to be a lot more guns out there.
Yeah.
Just get ready for it.
Bottom line.
Bottom line.
Do you sell a lot of Kevlar and stuff like that with them often or no?
No, we don't sell any body armor there.
We do have some plate carriers that we sell there that allow you to insert plate armor inside of the vest, but we're not an armor retailer.
I don't really know if that's up for private sale in California.
I'm not entirely sure.
And what about flares, nades, anything like that?
Yeah, I mean, I wish we sold grenades, man.
That'd be sick, but no, we don't.
Explosives, not going to happen.
That would be sweet, though, man.
We actually talked about grenades when you came in.
I remember that.
That was pretty funny.
Oh, yeah, we did, man.
No flares.
Oh, yeah, grenades are cool, man.
I was in Cambodia, and I was with my cousin.
Oh, you could throw a fucking grenade over there, I bet.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
They were advertising, man.
We were in this little tiny village called Kokong.
It's on this river by the Thai border.
And they were there, and you guys were asking us, like, oh, yeah, but they saw our backpacks.
We got like military-style backpacks.
No one's in the military who I'm with, but they were like, oh, yeah, you like guns, you like guns.
And we're like, yeah, yeah, we like guns.
And they're like, you go, like, come on, we have a machine gun.
We have RPG.
And I'm like, let's go shoot.
And we didn't end up doing it.
I kind of regret that.
I kind of wish that we did.
But they were like, oh, yeah, you can throw grenades and everything.
Damn.
Yeah, yeah, but dude, Cambodia had a massive genocide.
They had a civil war.
Yeah, just sit around.
Yeah, they got it everywhere, man.
Yeah.
So it's crazy.
Cambos will fucking shoot anything, dude.
How about this, bro?
You pull up grenade detonation on YouTube.
People are shocked always when they see this.
People think nades go big.
They really don't go that big.
A basic nade don't really fucking do that much.
Yeah, we were just talking about that, man.
It's just really a pop, man.
A lot of people see grenades in movies.
They see an action movie and they throw a grenade.
It's a giant fireball, man.
It just blows up.
But it's really a pretty small amount of explosives.
Not that one.
That one takes too long.
I've watched that one before.
They're not terribly lethal.
I mean, well, they're very lethal, but they're not like massive explosions.
Hand grenade compilation?
Okay, let's try that.
Yeah, check it out.
That's the Kurdistan shit, man.
I mean, look at that.
yeah Damn, dude, you gotta throw it further than that.
That dude threw four feet.
What a freak.
That guy sucks, man.
There's Cambodia for you, man.
I have to run back.
Yeah.
Oh!
Wow, that's cool.
You know, it used to be eight seconds on the grenade.
I believe now it's four seconds.
Oh, yeah?
Because people, yeah, it was too much time.
The early ones.
I want to say during like the French War or something.
They would throw them back, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's so interesting how they could make it, you know, like the time like that.
How do they even build that?
I don't understand.
Yeah, it is really interesting.
Once you pull that pin, the first really widespread use grenades was a guy fucking white dude using it.
Sorry to interrupt you.
No, you're a good man.
Is that Danny McBride?
That's what it would have.
Those guys are probably in Cambodian though.
I got through it left-handed.
He's obviously right-handed.
I do that.
That bitch.
But look how small that is.
It's really smaller than you think.
Yeah.
I mean, that is just a little blip.
Yeah, but in terms of the timing, like the first grenades that were really used widely was in World War I, man.
It was called the Mills bomb.
The British used them.
And they had an internal fuse that would kind of burn inside the grenade, and that would make it go off.
So you would pull the pin, a safety pin, and then you would throw it.
And there's like a little hinge.
That's how most grenades use.
What is it called?
Let's look it up.
A Mills bomb.
Mills bomb?
Yeah.
It was like the first widely used grenade in combat.
I mean, there were earlier examples of more primitive grenades, but the first widely produced and issued grenade in World War I. Wow, look at that.
Yeah.
A Mills bomb.
That's that old school hitter, Daddy.
Oh, yeah.
That 36-meter Mills bomb right there.
There it is, man.
And so then all those pieces would...
Yeah, so you would pull that pin, and then there's actually a little striker after you pull the pin and you let go of the grenade.
And that would allow a spring-loaded striker to hit a fuse, and that fuse would burn for, I mean, approximately, I think, five seconds.
And after that, it would just go off.
There's a little bit of high explosive in there.
And then pretty much how they cut those shapes into the actual body of the grenade.
The explosive power would break the grenade fragments on those cuts, and that would be your fragmentation.
Early grenades were really used more for taking enemy positions than they were for really outright killing them.
So they would throw them.
They weren't terribly lethal in terms of fragmentation.
They would just throw them, especially inside of bunkers in World War I down in the trenches.
Everyone would be dazed and confused because of the grenade that went off, blowing everyone's ears out and making them blind.
And they would run in there with bayonets and really finish the job.
That was really how it was done back in the day.
Nade City, dog.
So I'm telling you guys, keep your shit together, dog.
Y'all get naded out.
In World War I, man, they had like German stormtroopers when they were attacking enemy trenches.
Oh, yeah.
A lot of times they wouldn't even go in with a rifle when they were attacking enemy position.
They had these giant sacks that they would tie up to their shoulders, and they would just be full of grenades.
They would have 12 grenades on them and then a club.
So they would go in there at night raiding trenches, throw 12 grenades, and then after all the grenades go off, they'll run in there with a club and start beating people to death.
Yeah, it was crazy.
Crazy.
Man, it sounds like that movie Black.
Talk down.
No.
Black shit, no.
Delilah.
Black Swan.
No.
Black with the big fish in San Diego.
What's that called?
Blackfish?
Blackfish.
Blackfish.
Nico, man, thanks so much.
Any more questions, guys?
I think that's it.
Yeah, man.
It looks like we're in an environment where a lot of people are getting armed.
Yeah.
Hey, man.
Firearms, man, they're a good way to go.
It's a great hobby.
It's a great way to protect your life, man.
And as long as you use them safely, they're really just a lot of fun.
Do you think I could be a safe user of firearms?
I wouldn't sell it to you if I didn't think you would, man.
Right, no, man.
To be perfectly honest with you, man.
Cool.
Respect.
Thanks, dude.
I appreciate that.
Yeah, of course, dude.
Good to know I can do that.
All right, thank you so much for being here, man.
Appreciate it, man.
Yeah, of course, dude.
Thank you guys for having me.
Yeah, you bet.
Oh, wait, one more thing I want to ask you about.
Yeah.
So there was a video you were showing me of what other type of hunting and outdoor activities you like to do.
Well, here in L.A., man, I do a lot of...
That's something I'm really into.
So my cousin and I and my dad and my uncle, we'll go out.
So we got a lot of scuba gear, and we'll go down in different spots around pretty much the west side out in the ocean.
And we go either out in a little boat or we go out there late at night, you know, kind of Navy SEAL style.
And we go there and pick out a lobster.
So we go out there with a lobster bag.
We wear Kevlar gloves, flashlight, and you're there and they come out at night to feed.
And where are you at?
Where are you located at here?
Right now?
When you do it.
No, when you do this.
Oh, Palace Verde's around the marina, Redondo, up in Malibu.
Just pretty much the whole bay.
Whole bay.
And then you go out there late at night and underwater, it's completely pitch black down there.
So all the lobsters coming out, and we have bright flashlights.
We're all, you know, we're fully scubaed out.
So we're about, you know, 30, 40 feet underwater by the rocks, sometimes even shallower.
And then you grab these big bugs, man, and they're trying to fight you and they start grabbing and kicking.
And then you stuff them in a bag and you fill up the bag, you know, the limit seven per day.
So we'll fill them up and then bring it back up.
And we have some good cookouts.
We also go like, I do a little bit of fishing out in like a few rivers.
We go crawfishing.
It's a lot of fun.
So it's similar to lobster.
You just get a lot more of them and they're smaller.
Oh, yeah.
And then, yeah, other than that, do hunting.
And that's a lot of fun.
Mostly birds, but do some deer hunting too.
It's a lot of fun.
Yeah, that lobstering is so interesting, man.
Dude.
Go out there at night.
Oh, yeah.
It's pitch fucking dark, dude.
The first time I did it, I was freaking out.
I was like, damn.
And you're down there with these ancient fucking crustaceans.
These things have been on this planet way longer than we have.
And they're not used to motherfuckers going down there with scuba tanks and a thousand lumen flashlight.
And they freak out.
And you grab them up and you put them in a bag, man.
Do you use a weapon or anything?
You just grab them with your hands.
Grab them with your hands, man.
Kevlar gloves, you just grab them.
Here, they're California spiny lobsters, so they don't have claws like they do on the East Coast.
They're just covered in spikes.
So if you grab them with just your hands, they'll cut you up.
Oh, Jesus.
So you grab with a Kevlar gloves, so you stuff them in a bag.
Fuck yeah.
And they'll squeeze onto your hand real tight.
They're actually surprisingly pretty strong.
And if you got a big one, you got to go two hands.
So you grab two hands, and you have to pretty much hold it onto your chest because they're trying to kick away from you.
Like a baby almost.
Yeah, and then your dive buddy pretty much has to come and help him get it off and get into the bag.
And it's crazy, man.
If you land a big lobster, man, it's fucking wild.
There's a lot of food there, man.
So I've gotten a lot of lobster this year.
Sounds good, huh?
Oh, yeah.
And then you cook them up, man.
I cook them up Aussie style.
I throw them on the grill, just butter and seasoning, man.
It's fucking good.
Get Gianni's little soft ass out there to catch one or ride one even.
Yeah, if you guys are down to come out in cold water, man, yeah, we'll get some lobsters.
We'll get some bugs out there.
Gianni got there and ride a lobster, man.
Hell yeah.
But other than that, diving, man, I mean, I was diving in the Philippines.
Saw a whale shark.
I mean, I did another dive around a bunch of sardines.
So I love diving, man.
That's another big hobby of mine, man.
I love scuba diving.
Yeah, I got to get more of that outdoor motif going on.
I used to have it when I was young because we spent so much time outdoors, but the city will really change you.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, it kind of kills your soul a little bit.
Yeah, definitely, man.
Well, now I can kill other people's souls because I have two fucking guns, bro.
Yeah, there you go.
Now you can fucking take souls while you lose yours, bro.
Nico, thanks so much for coming, bro.
Thanks, David.
Thanks for having me.
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