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Today's guest is one of the funniest people that I've ever seen.
I'm so honored to be able to sit down with him today.
He is the guest that I've been trying to get.
I sent him a DM probably a year ago, and I'm just, I had to come to Australia to be able to sit down with him.
He is the creator.
He's just creative.
He has a new series on Netflix called Lunatics.
He is the creator and the lead of like nine different characters in Jonah from Tonga and Summer Heights High, which are two of the most amazing shows.
You might have to go a little deep into the internet to find them, but I think you should.
Summer High Tie, Jonah from Tonga, his new Netflix series, Lunatics.
And I'm just really happy to be sitting here with Mr. Chris Lilly.
I'll let myself on my eyes.
Shine that light on me.
I'll sit and tell you my stories.
Yeah, dude, I actually had a dream, dude, like a couple nights ago that you were at like a restaurant or something.
It was like a fast dream.
And you were having like a, maybe like a salad or something.
I don't even know.
Does that seem like something you would eat?
What do you think you would even eat, you think?
Well, I don't eat meat, but yeah.
Oh, so you maybe within.
I didn't salad eight.
I don't know what I ate.
Yeah.
Mexican.
Mexican food.
So maybe, yeah, maybe it wasn't.
I think it was you.
It was pretty much you because I remember I was meeting you at this restaurant.
And because I was excited about meeting you, and so I was meeting you at this restaurant.
Yeah.
And then it kind of cut to, yeah, it looked like you were having like a salad or something.
Yeah, I wonder what made you think that.
Did I look like You would be thinking of the characters and stuff.
Yeah, some of them.
I mean.
Yeah, I'm trying to think of what character maybe we'd be having, like a salad.
Maybe, uh...
That guy.
God, dude, that guy's sad.
Ah, he's going to sell it a day down.
Bro, that guy's...
Yeah, and what's wrong with him?
I feel like he's on the spectrum.
Yeah.
Of some sort.
The tism, that's what they call it where I'm from.
Oh, the tism, yeah.
There's something going on.
Yeah, I don't know.
He's like kind of a victim of like society a little bit, you think?
Well, does he do his own thing or is he like a...
It's like everyone wishes they had the balls to do the stuff that he does and say the stuff he does.
Yeah.
But I think he gets away with it because he's a little bit unaware of how impactful it is.
Which, yeah, maybe that's the spectrum thing.
Yeah, it's kind of a blessing, too, to be a little bit unaware.
Yeah.
Once you get too aware, stuff's not that fun a lot of times.
Yeah, I think people want to be him.
That's why it kind of works.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
do a little bit.
I think I was Just fearless, huh?
Yeah.
And his little cousin, too.
What's the guy's name?
Dylan.
Yeah.
How great was it to work with that kid?
He's a cool kid.
Yeah.
He just kept laughing at me the whole time.
Oh, I bet, man.
You could see some scenes where it cuts away from him.
I noticed because he was just going to start laughing.
Yeah.
Well, because we just keep rolling.
I think he didn't quite know when we were on or not.
Yes.
But he's a really great kid.
But he picked up on a lot of the language and he started like ad-libbing and throwing in like C words and stuff.
So had to kind of pull him back a bit.
Oh, he started to get crazy, huh?
Yeah, but he was just having fun.
That's great.
It must be fun to see that as like a...
It must be great to see like in the beginning a guy like Dylan and an actor like him kind of, you know, learning his way, but by the end, him starting to get that confidence and stuff.
Is that pretty cool to see as a director?
Yeah, I was unreal.
There's a lot of scenes where we drive off in this little red car together, and I had to like pull out the audio because as we drove off, he was like, fuck, slow down, you can't like swearing at me.
And just like he was just, he got into it so much.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
I wanted him to be a bit more mute.
So I had to pull him out, pull the audio out.
You had to take him aside sometimes a little?
A little bit, but I just, usually these people that we cast, you kind of just roll with whatever you've got.
Like you've chosen them for a reason and you just make the best of what they have rather than trying to shape them too much.
Yeah.
And do you do most of your casting as well?
Yeah, well, I choose all the people, but I have a really great team of casting people that Find them, they literally go find them off the street, they walk around the streets and find them, or they'll just like rock up to schools or whatever.
It's they'll go anywhere, yeah, because it's so specific, the kind of people we need that you have to like search far and wide.
Yeah, it must be that it seems like you almost need like kind of a garden.
You set up a garden and you're kind of the rabbit in a way.
So it's like every the other people are still amazing people and humans and everything, but it's almost does that make any sense to you?
It's almost like you have to have a place where your creativity just be able to kind of flow through the slalom poles of the other characters.
Yeah, that's it.
That's exactly it.
And it takes a while to find those people.
Also, you don't, because they're real people, I mean, not all of them, some of them have some acting experience, but a lot of them are real people and they behave a certain way in the audition.
And then when you're on set, it's kind of like, oh, shit, there's Chris Lee.
Oh, he's in a wig.
He's swearing at me.
And they kind of become a bit different.
So you kind of have to adapt to the new version of them.
Because you can't talk them back into the regular version.
Sometimes it's kind of hard, I guess.
I try to a little bit, but then it makes them lose confidence.
So sometimes I'm like, I'll fix it in the edit.
But I mean, they do, the great thing about that is then you get these magic moments where they just, they do these things that actors never do.
And you're like, shit, that's so real and good.
And yeah.
Is it hard for you sometimes when you know a moment like that is because I can imagine there are probably times where in a scene you know a moment just happened that was so perfect that it's like is it hard sometimes to you are you able to notice those as they happen kind of sometimes?
Yeah, you're in it.
Yeah, you see it when it happens.
Yeah.
And then a part of me is also like watching the cameras and I've told those guys what to do while they're doing things.
I can see the way the cameras are moving at the same time.
I'm like, oh shit, they covered it.
Awesome.
Got that.
Yeah.
Like, because we have two cameras rolling at the same time.
And yeah, it's a weird thing.
And I can sort of, I'm editing it in my head as I'm doing the scene.
I don't know.
I'm not trying to make myself sound like that.
No, it doesn't sound like you are.
I'm just like, it's a weird process.
And you're like, oh, shit, that's going to work.
Yeah, yeah, cool.
Oh, and he covered that.
And then I'll cut there.
It's exciting.
Well, there's not a lot of people that do, that have ever done really kind of what you, what you do.
You know, it's rare.
It's extremely rare, I think, man.
Like, I don't know.
I mean, Ari and I were talking about it yesterday.
There's like, you know, in the U.S., we have, who's that guy, Ari?
Sasha Baron Cohen, I think, is similar genre.
Yeah, a little bit of Sacha Baron Cohen, but some of his stuff is a little more mean-spirited, I think, where yours is just kind of like this world that is just so...
Is that the vibe on set, or does it get sometimes a little bit too mad?
Like you have to manage so much that it's hard to stay in the fun stuff?
It's probably more, it's a little bit more serious, but it's pretty relaxed and kind of peaceful.
It's a really quiet, thoughtful kind of set.
Like, it's not...
Like often you have like a first AD that will be yelling at everyone, but in our world, it's just very peaceful and he talks quietly.
It's just about getting those moments because I've thought it through so much before we get on set that I just know I need these little moments.
So it's not like everyone's laughing their heads off the whole time.
You kind of know, like you sort of, you know how it's going to come together.
But yeah, it's more like peaceful than hilarious on set.
Yeah.
Do you feel like recently I was thinking about like what makes like why laughter is like important to me kind of, you know, or what like it's always been to me in my life?
Like, and sometimes I was thinking that, you know, I feel like laughter, it's like, it was like when people were laughing when I was young, it was like the only time that I kind of felt okay.
Like for some reason in my head, I was always kind of judging myself or I thought other people thought something was wrong with me, you know?
And so I knew if they were laughing, then they couldn't be like not liking me at the same time or something, you know?
Like if I have those people laughing, there's no way they could be laughing, you know, seeing their smile and hearing the joy come out of them and also not liking me.
So it was like a second of like peace in my head or in my spirit or something.
Do you, what has laughter kind of been like for you or the ability to make people laugh?
Like, what's something, do you have any thoughts on any of that from your own experience in life?
Yeah, I mean, it's so, it's everything, like every friendship I have, it's about laughing and making jokes about things.
And just, yeah, I'm not really friends with serious people.
So it's like, it's everything.
It's like so fun to just, even friends that I just text, it's just all jokes.
And it's not like we're like, you know, it's, yeah, everything's funny.
It's just about seeing the funny side of everything.
Yeah, similar thing.
Like, growing up, I just knew that there was a sort of power in the idea of making the family laugh.
And I feel like you're the youngest as well or something.
Are you the youngest?
I have an older brother.
Yeah, so I'm the youngest.
I've got two older brothers and a sister.
Yeah.
Wow.
And so when I was like five.
You were the drug addict as a little one.
Oh, yeah.
Well, there's time for that.
There we go.
But it's, yeah, I remember just being like five.
And then my brother and sister were actually born in the same year.
Same parents, same year.
January, December.
But anyway, they were like...
Nah.
Still, it's like, that's close.
And I think they call it Irish twins.
Yeah, they do something.
Well, I was supposed to be triplets too, someone told me once.
Yeah, and I wasn't.
It's just me, which is crazy because I've always felt like there was something else out there for me.
Do they do an ultrasound?
The doctor said that.
Were the other ones in there at one point?
I don't know.
Told my mom that it was triplets whenever they were going in there and then nothing, just me.
Can you have two that don't make it and one comes out?
My mom would have told me.
I've always secretly thought I was a twin and that my mum is keeping it a secret.
And I like hit her up with that a couple of years ago and she had a flinch on her.
She sort of reacted when I said it.
So you think maybe it could be something?
There could be something.
Yeah.
But I don't know if that's possible.
I don't know much about babies.
Well, moms like to keep secrets, I think, when it comes to stuff like that, like about birth and like, you know, family history and stuff.
I think they don't like to share all of that.
Yeah.
I guess it's in their day, it was more of a, that you just went off and did it and didn't talk about it.
Yeah, they used to, sometimes they'd take a car down to, you know, maybe Byron Bay or something, you know, and just have the baby down there and come back and never even have a baby.
Just be like, oh, I was, you know, kind of fat for a bit.
Yeah, just into the toilet or whatever.
Yeah.
That's it.
But I mean, yeah, people, back in the day, you'd drive off to another town, Boston, and give the kid to a charity or something and come back.
You know, it was this.
That's true.
Yeah.
That wasn't that long ago.
I was like that.
50 years, maybe.
Yeah.
The only thing my mum said once, because I was talking about how the circumference of my head is really big.
I was like, I've got a massive head and I have to get extra large hats.
And she was like, yeah, I remember.
So apparently it was a big head when it came out.
Oh, I bet that never leaves him either.
Yeah, I don't want to think about that.
The pain of that.
Yeah, that's true, man.
And is your mom still alive?
Yeah.
Oh, good.
Yeah, let's think about it later when she's not.
Yeah.
She brought it up.
Oh.
Well, then you're safe, man.
So you had the two older.
You had the two older siblings.
Yeah, I was going to say, like, they were like kind of pre, no, they would have been like teenagers when I was about five.
And they're kind of stressing out.
The parents are stressing out about them because they're the eldest and they have to like, there was a kind of stressy vibe going on.
And I remember just doing stupid gags and making the family laugh, which mostly involved me like getting my dick out.
Yeah.
It's a huge thing.
Yeah.
That was big when I was about five.
So there's a lot of, there was a lot of dick jokes going on.
And I bet it was fun for them too to see a kid just partying with his dick out and not like in an illegal way.
You know, just so.
Yeah.
It was fun.
Yeah, man.
I actually, when I was born, I had like an adult size penis on a child's body.
Did you?
Yeah.
And so they had like I couldn't even sleep at night.
It would hurt my back, you know, to sleep because I'd lay on, you know, babies lay face down.
Did you just grow into it or has it grown like no, I grew into it.
I grew past it actually.
Oh, right.
And that was kind of disappointing.
Oh, I see.
Now, yeah, okay.
Now it's a child size.
Yeah, now it's, well, it's, I mean, it's, you know, like a healthy kind of teenager's size, you know?
Oh, yeah.
I think I haven't shown it to any.
I haven't seen a lot of teenagers digs, but I can imagine.
You think, I guess at five years old, your dick is like your greatest wet.
It's like the coolest thing you've ever known.
It's the best thing that comes out of it.
Yeah.
How great is that?
Four times a day.
It's so fun.
Yeah.
It's still fun.
It's like, yeah.
And people laugh at it.
My family thought it was hilarious.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, that's great.
Yeah.
There's a lot of photos of it.
That's crazy.
Do you, I remember sometime, I'll be honest, I would lay in the water in the bathtub, right?
And just pee straight up in the air onto myself.
Yeah, same.
Oh, it's really good.
It was good, man.
I just saw, oh, you know what?
I just saw the scene last night.
I was up watching Lunatics.
Oh, the one.
Where your character, the large buddy real estate guy when he urinates.
Yeah, yeah.
He loves that.
When he's showing the girl Paige when she's sitting down.
He thinks it's amazing.
Yeah.
And it is.
It was good, man.
It was exciting.
But yeah, I remember being, it was so much fun when you were young, man.
Yeah, making the family laugh.
That is definitely a thing.
And then you just become a big version of that, I guess.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you realize, like, because I remember when I was young, I would make kids at school laugh, you know?
But I never realized that it would be able to translate into doing it like on a stage and stuff, you know, and in a bigger environment.
Yeah.
Did that kind of happen for you?
Like, was there a part where you realized, like...
Because it's kind of scary to think that one of your talents, something you do, could be, like, a marketable talent.
It's almost like a...
It's almost cheesy.
Yeah, it ruins it a little bit.
It's like.
Yeah.
But then you're like, I can have a normal job or I can do this cool thing.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's sort of worth it.
Do you know, like, a lot of your characters, have they been with you since you were young?
Or some of them are brand new?
Some of them are things you just see off of people on the street.
You're like, oh, I could do that guy.
Yeah, it's usually a combination of things that, of ideas that you collect over a really long period.
So it's not like it's ever one person or one thing you've seen.
Sometimes it's like a leftover concept from another show and that's the kind of start of something.
But then it just evolves along the way.
It's sort of out of, I feel like it's out of my control as well.
Like it kind of, without trying, like sounding like a Wanco, it sort of, it comes alive and I don't really have that much control of it.
It's like you've put the things in place, you know what they're going to look like and there's the story.
But the way they kind of move and the way they sound and everything, it just comes together literally on the first day when we're on set.
Because I had an idea for all the hair and stuff and then but then the hair guy was like, well, why don't you try this?
And it kind of evolved really differently.
But you don't get to see all the elements together until literally like, boom, on the first day.
Like that Quentin character, the first thing we filmed was around the pool when he's having his 30th party.
And I didn't really know what he was going to sound like.
Like I kind of, I knew the character, I knew what he was about, but he really just came alive in that moment, like around the pool with his mates, and they're all going out.
And yeah, I was like, okay, this is who he is.
But sometimes people don't get that, and they often say to me, Oh, I really like the voice, or like, I just love how she moves or something.
I'm like, I didn't, how am I moving?
I didn't, I haven't noticed.
Oh, I see.
Like, those things weren't even part of the plan.
No, I haven't practiced.
I'm not, I don't stand in front of a mirror doing this kind of thing.
It just, it really just comes alive on the day.
It sounds strange, but it's not sound that strange to me.
I can understand a little bit.
Yeah.
I've thought about it a lot and I know what the story is and I know what they're going to say and the scripted lines and everything, but the combo of everything comes together on the day.
Yeah.
Like that, the Gavin character, he was sitting on his bed back at the Adelaide house and started talking, but I was like, this is kind of how kids talk, I think.
And it was really slow.
And I was like, it didn't have the rhythm of something that should be funny.
But I was like, I think it's better to just make it real.
Like, make it exactly how I think 12-year-old boys talk.
And that'll ultimately be funnier than trying to be kind of quirky and have that funny rhythm that people usually do.
Yeah, because some of that I noticed in some of that, it's like there's something like going for the joke.
And then there's something like, I trust that this will be funny later, and I just have to let it...
Like, sometimes there's a moment I notice in myself where it's like, there's a little thing that goes on in my head.
It's like, if I don't say anything else or make another sound or another movement right here, then this is going to land really, really good.
But if I do anything else, if I look or move or anything or say one more word, it's going to, it pops the balloon.
So I can imagine there's some unique moments where you're doing those characters where you probably really land in like a special spot.
You're like, oh, this is a good spot for this character right now.
Yeah.
It's so cool, man, because it's just such a – because then the reward is all for the audience.
The reward is all – You know, they're going to love it.
It's so cool, man.
The hard thing is you have to really block out trying to impress the people around you, like the crew and the cast.
If the moment's awkward and not funny, it's okay because it'll come together later.
But yeah, sometimes you have to really remember it's not about pleasing the people around you.
It's about the end result.
Yeah.
So you get over that and just, yeah.
No, it's interesting, man.
Yeah, because then you lose, because then it's interesting because part of which, or what I always noticed with my original thing was to make the people around me laugh.
So it's then whenever you're taping something, sometimes you have to sacrifice that to know that it's going to make, it's going to play better in this other way.
Yeah, I think when you were saying making this kids laugh at school, I used to do that, but in a more kind of thought out, planned way.
Like I wasn't the class clown, the loud kid, but I would plan out a thing, like a funny scripted thing that I was going to just do.
If I had to do a speech, I would write out something really funny and then I'd just get up and do something kind of shockingly funny.
Rather than, I wasn't the kid yelling shit out from up the back.
But even like primary school days, I remember like you had to, I don't know, drawings and stuff.
I'd always do something really funny that incorporated like some in joke about the teacher or something.
But it was planned out.
It wasn't sort of the loud, funny guy thing.
Yeah.
Which I like, it seems to be what I like to do.
Yeah, I was never the class clown.
I was never like a physical.
I was never physical.
I was always like in my head, I was like, oh, this would be a time I was a verbal.
I was more verbal than I was physical.
Yeah, I still wanted the people around me to laugh.
Like I loved it that, you know, you get up and do the speech and they'd laugh.
It was so fun.
Do you remember sometimes the fact that they would even continue to let you go back up to the front of the class if you'd already been funny other times?
Yeah.
And ruin the teacher's day and she's again going to let you go up and do anything.
Yeah.
Because the teachers just secretly, they're like kind of bored and wondering what they're doing with their lives and they're like, hang on, this is going to, this will be like a little wrong, but it'll entertain me.
Yeah.
Sometimes there was no like educational kind of content in what I was saying, but the teachers would give me full marks.
they'd be like, you made my day.
And you just...
Often I started to work out that if you actually pretended to be the teachers, so I'd get up and do like speeches as them.
They were keen to it.
Or some other kind of controversial teacher at the school.
And oh, he was like, it can't leave the classroom, but I said this.
Yeah.
That was fun.
That's fun, man.
It was so fun being young like that, just to be free, you know?
Yeah.
It was good.
Yeah.
And there was no, it didn't have to lead to anything.
It was just that moment of being funny.
And then you'd be thinking about that forever.
Yeah, and then reenacting with your friends or talking about how funny it was, that was so much better.
Now it's all captured.
So it kind of, it spoils it some.
Yeah, and it gets judged for weird reasons and analyzed too much, I guess.
Yeah.
Well, that's one of the cool things that's been about podcasts.
It's like that shit is dying in the U.S. Like all of that, like because there was no fan base for it.
It was just like clickbait online.
You know, there was no real people judging stuff.
It was just losers sitting around at home with not just on their computers and people, lonely people writing articles.
It wasn't actual funny people who like to laugh expressing themselves because they're busy living their lives.
But now it's like with podcasting, so many more people are just having a good time again and so much less judgmental.
In the U.S. anyway, I'm noticing it growing.
But I don't know if it's the same here, probably.
Yeah, I guess it would be.
It seems to be getting really huge, the whole podcast thing.
And I can see why.
Yeah, it's uncensored and you really feel like you get to know the person you're listening to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's good.
So when you made your family laugh and you were young, did you make your mother and father laugh too or no?
Yeah, yeah, no, they were the main ones laughing.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
That's cool.
Was it fun to make your parents laugh?
Like, who was the funnest to make laugh in your family?
Like.
Probably my oldest brother.
Yeah.
And I mean, he would make me laugh.
Like, so we had a kind of, and still does, like, we had a good thing together.
Yeah.
One of my favorite things that he did when I was little was, I used to go to bed really early and he was teenager, so he would stay up, but it was really dark and he used to sneak in my room and like jump on my bed and pretend that he was my Chinese mother and did this like ridiculous stereotypical accent.
But the whole concept was that the Chinese mother used to sneak in at night to try to steal me back because I was actually a Chinese kid that had had an operation to make my eyes wide.
And then he'd do the whole like, I can't do the accent, I'll get in trouble.
But yeah.
Here, I'll do it.
Let me try.
Oh, you're coming home.
There it is.
Yeah.
This is your Chinese mother.
Anyway, he used to do that and then he'd run out of the room and then he'd come back in as himself and he'd be like, oh, Chris, there was this Chinese woman running down the driveway.
She seemed really freaked out.
And I'd have to pretend I didn't know anything about it.
And it used to make me laugh so much.
He did a lot of those, but my Chinese mother was one of my favorites.
That's so cool that he did that because then it leaves you, because then he goes to bed or whatever, and it leaves you in your bed laying there with this expansive idea of what can be funny.
Yeah.
Now there's a woman out in the world that's a fake woman.
There's your brother who's just asleep in the other room.
There's you laying there with your eyes and your spirit wide open.
It was so exciting.
Like I'm still thrilled by it.
I mean, that's an example of him being hilarious to me.
But I think it kind of got me excited about those ideas.
Do you think that humor creates a special bond between family members and stuff like that?
Yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
It's sort of...
That's my whole relationship with the family is everything's a joke.
I message my mom every day and it's always something funny.
I mean, there's lots of in jokes and sort of funny stories, but it, yeah, it definitely bonds people together.
Do you guys, does your family have a good like regular connection as well?
And then you also have the humor connection?
Or is the humor connection kind of like a does it kind of suffice for you guys as the way you guys kind of emotionally connect to each other?
I don't know if that's a bizarre question or not.
Yeah, I think, yeah, it's not two things.
There's like we talk about regular stuff, but it always has a bit of a funny take.
Yeah.
Like, and it's that kind of piss take Australian humor thing where you're kind of like putting someone down.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My mum's things about how all we're all, she used to say we're all thick, like not very smart.
And so that's her whole thing is that she, in the family, she's the one that had the thick kids.
Especially after hearing about how thick your head was.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
She should have known out of the gate.
This one's going to be a bit thicker than most.
Yeah.
So she still runs with that angle that like we're really stupid.
She's not wrong.
She must be really proud of you, huh?
Yeah, I think she's really into it.
Yeah.
She really appreciates it.
And I think so.
We don't really talk about it in that way so much.
Yeah.
But yeah, she's always telling me people that she works with and friends and stuff that are loving it.
So I think she's into it.
That's cool.
That must be, yeah, for a moment, that's pretty cool.
Yeah, my mom said she wore a t-shirt of mine.
Because my mom first came and saw me, she hadn't seen me performing about five years until a couple of weeks ago.
And I gave her just like a merch t-shirt, you know, she was just enamored by.
She talks about it every day now.
And it's got your head on it.
Yeah.
It's pretty lame, but she likes it, you know.
Yeah.
And she wore it somewhere and a young guy came up and said something to her.
And yeah, it was just like the most, yeah, there's something for me anyway about making my mom feel proud that really just like makes me feel okay, you know?
It makes me feel like a different level of okay than I'm normally able to make on my own, you know?
Because the kind of thing we do, it takes a while to get into the, to get to the level where it's like your job and it's perceived as a successful thing.
So there's many years where I'm sure parents are like, what the fuck am I doing?
Like, I fucked this up.
Yeah, what am I doing?
I gave birth to this thick-headed baby and now we're doing dirty riddles.
What's going on?
Yeah, I shouldn't have laughed at the dick jokes.
But yeah, so I had a similar thing with my mum.
There's the character Jermae, the schoolgirl.
The first time I played her, I sent a photo to my mum going, this is what I'm doing.
And she was like, what the fuck?
Like, this is wrong.
Because it's like, my son's dressed up as a young girl.
It's really weird.
And she said, her reply to me was, I won't be showing that around at work.
And then, when the show came out, it was like really popular in Australia.
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And she was walking around wearing the t-shirt with me on it.
I was like, oh, you changed a tune.
She's like, oh, well, once I saw the show, she's into it now.
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Did, you know, what's interesting is a lot of my friends still don't know about Summer High Tide.
I regard it as, and that whole series, I saw it about a year and a half ago, or maybe two years ago for the first time.
I'd never even heard about it.
And I was so shocked when I saw it and I was like, oh my God, this is like everything I've ever wanted to laugh at in one space.
And I couldn't believe that I hadn't known about it, you know?
And how did you find out about it?
Just random.
Somebody said, somebody said, hey, man, you have to watch this.
And then I heard it again, like a week later from somebody just randomly.
And then I was like, okay, this thing's coming into my little universe.
And I got to know about it.
And it, oh, dude.
Because that show, like, I made that in Australia for our local network.
And I just never thought it would go beyond Australia.
Really?
The fact that you're watching it in America a year ago is so, it spins me out.
That I could imagine.
I could imagine that a decade later or something if we have something still swirling and even blowing people's minds.
It blew my mind.
It was like, I never seen anything like this since I was a kid.
And they had a show called In Living Color when I was young that was really big in the States.
But yeah, to this day, I think it's probably the funniest, you know, in going off into that series, you know, with Mr. G and the other character, like Jennifer Tongue, just look at my dick, dad.
Just the whole, just so many fucking, it's so ridiculous.
It's everything that I felt like was funny to me as like a, as a human, you know, and I couldn't express it.
And so somebody had like captured this ability to just make it perfect, man.
Yeah, some people just really get it.
Yeah.
Does it make you laugh?
I mean, I never go back and watch anything that I really do have done, but does it make you laugh sometimes?
Are there sometimes a character like the voice of one of them will pop in your head and makes you feel good?
Definitely.
Because if you have a look at Instagram and people make all these memes and little videos.
And the thing is, I forget that I've done stuff, but I relive it through those videos and things.
Someone sent me a Jermae one the other day and I was like, I was like, shit, that's funny.
I was losing my shit over.
Yeah, it was just Jermae like having to go at the principal for not giving her the Hilford Medal.
I don't know if you've seen that show, but yeah, so her whole thing is that they've given it to a fat lesbian border and she's really like, can't believe.
And she says, yeah, I'm like the hottest student to ever grace your fucking playground.
And I don't know.
I just, for some reason, that line made me laugh.
But yeah, I do laugh at it.
I love it.
Yeah.
I don't, yeah.
Some of you sit around and laugh at it, not in an ego way, but that's, that's, I mean, that's just a testament to how entertaining it is.
I think that it can even come back and make you laugh, you know?
Yeah.
And that's okay.
It's, you know, it's, it's cool.
Sometimes there'll be a moment I'll see in a joke I'll see online or something.
I'll be like, yep, dude, that got me, man.
That was, that guy did a good job.
It's not like I'm thinking I did a good job.
Yeah.
It's not like I'm thinking that guy did a good job.
That's a good way to explain it.
Yeah, I feel like I'm not responsible for that.
So yeah, I'm not bragging when I say that.
It's like, oh, that person was funny.
Yeah, it's hard to keep our ego out.
Ari, would you mind cutting on the AC for a second?
Or just cutting it on over there?
It's on that wall.
Just put it at like 19, yeah, if you don't mind, bud.
Oh, and Ari's the opener, too.
He's a comedian, but he's like the best, yeah.
He's been.
Are you guys on tonight?
A real champ, yeah.
If you want to jump on stage, man, you know, you're more than welcome to practice something.
Oh, what?
People would lose their minds, though, huh?
Is it hard being like a legend in your country?
It must be.
Is it kind of scary sometimes a little bit?
It is a little bit, but I'm pretty low-key and I don't do any press and stuff, so I'm not kind of known as like me as myself.
So I can kind of walk down the street.
But at the moment, because the lunatics thing's been really big, I do get stopped a lot and it's a bit full on.
Yeah.
And there's a little bit of a, like, paparazzi thing that happens here, which can be a bit, it's just scary.
It's really.
It's scary.
Like, you know, I don't care.
It's just me walking around the streets and stuff, but the photos are not that weird.
But it's scary when you see them and you hear the camera and stuff.
It freaks me out.
What does that mean?
Oh, hear the camera.
People show up.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, the pap thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's scary if I go to an event or something and people are all hyped up and excited and you're like, shit, how am I going to get away from this?
Yeah, sometimes it just, it can be a bit full-on.
Yeah, it's interesting how has it been tough for you to like, was there moments in your career where you've had to like battle your own ego?
Like one thing I noticed for myself is my ego, it's kind of a separate animal than me.
You know, it lives inside of me and it's like, it can be a victim to all the things that go on in the world.
You know, it's kind of like a sugar lizard, I call it.
Like it'll just, you know, it just goes for the sugar all the time.
It's just the way it's built.
Have you had any, and recently I've had to just make sure to myself, like start to do some meditation is just make sure to just keep my mind and focus on what's going on.
My job is just to make people laugh and not get caught up in anybody else's ideas of what I am.
Did you have any thoughts about that during your career or notice any stuff about your own ego or anything?
I think like I'm more the opposite.
Like I kind of can't get my head around the interest in it.
I don't know, I probably should be more confident about it.
I'm probably a bit down on myself about the whole thing.
Yeah, if ever there's like TV awards nights, and I go to those, and I'm like, what am I doing here?
Like, I'm not part of this.
Like, who are these people?
I don't know.
And I'm not saying that to be, I'm so super humble or whatever.
It's just genuinely my thing.
I'm not.
Yeah, I don't have that ego.
Is it a discomfort?
So say you're at a thing like that, right?
Because if I go to something like that in Los Angeles, I feel uncomfortable.
Oh, yeah.
Like, I feel like, yeah, I don't know.
I feel like maybe these people are judging me or I just feel some sort of uncomfort, which is kind of fine with me.
It's kind of, some of the uncomfort is what keeps me in a place where I feel like I'm able to be funny anyway.
Is that the kind of thing you feel, or you just feel like, oh, this isn't my vibe?
Or do you, like if you go to something kind of fancy, is there...
So I feel like when I'm at those things, people are like, can you make us feel the way that we do when we watch you dressed up in the show?
And I'm like, that's not what I do.
But like, I knew that you would get it.
That's why I like talking to you.
But normally I don't do those kind of interviews and things or go on TV talk shows and stuff because I know that there'll be that expectation.
I see what you're saying.
Yeah, well, yeah, man.
I'm so grateful that you were able to do this, man.
Yeah, I just couldn't believe I could be such a fan or something.
I'd never been a fan of anything that much in my whole life.
It was almost bizarre, dude.
I was like, man, I'm such a, like, what's going on with me, dude?
I thought I was going to go through like a second puberty or something, you know?
I thought I was going to sprout another dick or something, you know, or another beard or something on my neck.
You know, I thought it was pretty cool.
You just, yeah, it just made me laugh so much, man.
Oh, good.
That's like the best thing ever, like, to know that.
Isn't it fun making people laugh?
It's crazy, isn't it?
It's the best, yeah.
It's so good.
It's well, that's the whole drive and the reason that we're doing it.
It's, it's just to make people feel that thing.
Yeah.
I mean, you want them to feel a lot of things.
You want them to be just excited and inspired and kind of maybe sad sometimes or all sorts of things.
But the main thing you want them to do is just laugh and find it really funny.
So it's cool.
"Jeres, Komenus, Jeres, Samen." And it's such a, it's almost like you're like Harry Potter.
It's not like you're Harry Potter, but the process of it is.
The result of it.
It's almost like it's like a magic or something, you know?
Yep.
It's very weird.
I mean, you would have that immediate thing because you're standing in front of people and they're making noises and shaking their bodies at you.
Yeah, that's true.
You get it more immediate on stage.
That's right.
Forget you, because it says online you did stand up.
Yeah, I did start doing that.
That's sort of how I got into it.
Did you find that it wasn't your medium kind of doing it?
Did you find like, because I'm sure you learned from it, like, okay, this is this, but did you then find, okay, I work better in this other room?
Yeah, I think I prefer doing TV, but it was a, that was how I got into it.
That was the stepping stone because I would stand.
There's nothing better than, there's no better way of reaching, like creating something and reaching people than stand-up because you're just, you're thinking of everything, you're standing there saying it, it's reaching them immediately.
Everything else has layers of stuff that takes away from that.
So I found it a really good way to start things.
And that's, then that morphed into me doing characters on stage.
I mean, I always did characters back in school days and primary, my whole life just always did characters.
But then stand up, I did the more traditional thing.
And then I moved into that like annoying singing songs, stand up.
And then I was like, actually, I'm just going to do characters.
Also I'd get on stage and I'd talk about a person, a type of person, and then I'd sort of spin around and become that person.
And I was like, oh, this is the thing that's working.
Like, yeah.
And then started to make little short films and things about those characters.
And then that spun me off into TV.
So, yeah, I definitely did it for a little while and it was – It's like so scary just to jump up in front of people.
Yeah.
You get used to it.
Well, I think what's scary to me is to make a character and like put it on Instagram or put it on social media or put it on.
That to me feels so scary for some reason.
There are parts of me that I think would love to do it.
Oh, you need to do it.
You should do that.
Yeah, I'd have to.
But for some reason, that is so scary to me as opposed to getting up in front of people is much less scarier.
Yeah, I guess it's just anything you get used to it.
It's like if you're scared of flying, you do it all the time and suddenly you're not.
It's like that.
Well, you know what I think it is, Chris Man?
For me, if they're there live, then I know immediately for me to give something to a place and let it be seen and not be able to be there and know if they are there laughing, that for me, there's some fear in that.
Like I need to be right there to know if they laugh or not.
I'm okay almost if they don't.
It'll hurt me.
But to put it somewhere like in a television and let them see it, but not be able to actually be there and see them as they see it and know if they laugh.
That's something that's really like, to me, very uncomfortable.
Yeah, okay.
And the thing with TV also is it's expensive to make it.
So there's a lot of expectation on it and a lot of kind of build up and hype.
And people love to say that you failed at it.
So there's this real like expectation thing.
But I kind of don't get involved in that.
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Not really.
After the first show I did, We Can Be Heroes, then obviously in the States, all the agents start calling and people are like, you need to make a movie here and all that kind of stuff.
So that happened, but I could just sense that there was going to be too much involvement from people.
And everyone just wants you to do more of the same, but they want to tell you how to do it.
So it's kind of like, and then I just was like, I'm going to do, that's when I did some heights high.
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And I didn't want to go to auditions and that scene.
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That's very different experience to auditioning and being in someone else's film or whatever it is.
Yeah, I got offered some roles recently and I just, at first I was like, yeah, I got excited, but then I had to go back and apologize and say, I just can't do this.
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Yeah, it's a different motivation.
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And people still say to me now, they're like, oh, you should act one day.
I'm like, what do you mean?
I'm like playing fucking six different characters.
They're like, no, no, no, act in a movie, like in someone else's movie.
Like get in a movie with like Meryl Strape and shit.
I'm like, so dope, dude.
It's like, I think I'm already acting.
Anyway, that would be so dope to see you in Bridges of Madison County 2. Oh, yeah.
That would be the most legendary shit ever.
I'd just be laughing the whole time.
Imagine doing a scene with Meryl Strape.
Oh, hard work.
But to me, she's pretty, though.
There's something always about her because she had like a motherly thing and also like a womanly thing.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, she's a Gilf.
Yeah, she's like the perfect storm.
Like I'd breastfeed off her, definitely.
Absolutely.
Who's someone you breastfeed you think off of that's over the age of 60?
Judy Dench.
Do you know who that is?
No, I'm just thinking of someone over 60. I don't know if I want to breastfeed.
Is she a Dame Judy Dench?
Yes.
What is that?
I've left off the title, yeah.
She's a religious figure or she's a...
Oh, she's an actress.
Yeah.
No, I don't want to suck her.
Breastfeed her.
Yeah.
Shit, who is there?
There's Betty White, but she's so old.
Yeah.
I mean, I definitely would go there, but not with Betty.
Yeah.
I'd put a straw in the tit, I think, now that I think about it, if it's really old.
You'd have to.
Yeah.
Anything over 50, I don't think I'm putting my lips on, man.
I just, you know, I'd be a bit nervous, probably.
Yeah.
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Now, your character, Becky, I think, is probably one of my favorite ones, I think.
Especially when they made fun of her in the dorm.
Like, I could really relate to that.
And that's as far as I am on the show.
I'm just through, I think I'm now through episode three, maybe of Lunatics.
And some of it I find myself having to go back because there's more, there's a lot going on sometimes.
So it's almost like I have to listen to the wording again, like to hear everything you're saying.
Yeah.
But what's up with Becky?
How's she doing today?
Is she doing okay?
She's never going to be that okay.
Like she's got a pretty difficult situation.
I just like the idea that this girl basically kind of has a disability and everyone's ignoring it and pretending she's just the tall girl and she's got a lot of issues and her family just have told her how amazing she is, trying to do the right thing.
They've like given her this false confidence.
So at the point when we meet her, she's kind of faking it so much, but she's just a bundle of insecurity.
And as the show goes on, she gets really involved in becoming a YouTube vlogger.
So she gets this confidence boost out of all her followers online and things start to take off.
Wow.
And so she's just, it's that young girl being so insecure and just, there's no way she's not an attractive girl.
She's got a really, she's got massive legs.
She can barely beat.
The ankles are very big.
Massive ankles.
And they get bigger, it seems like, in some of the scenes.
You're the first person to say that.
They don't get bigger, but I think there's just more shots of them.
There's a couple scenes where it looked like she put on about 40 pounds in each ankle.
No, she just has some bad outfits.
But she just is never going to be the popular girl and all the kind of...
She's always going to struggle in life.
And I just like that concept that the dorm life is just...
to compensate for it by being super nice but you can only build someone's confidence up so much yeah the reality is she's gonna have a hard time um i'm curious to see now man now i'm even more invested in the character yeah she's she has a bit of a love interest thing and for the basketball guy i'm guessing oh no don't tell me don't tell me i don't want to tell you that okay don't tell me it's she she just wants to be a normal girl and it's a struggle yeah that was that was a lot of
fun i guess everybody had that did you have like um did was there anything like i have like a big nose i have big ears kind of like those are things like i was insecure about like when i was growing up you know that always like and a nose is hard because it's you have to show it to everybody you know like yeah it's there yeah i think i also have a big nose and big ears is that what you think i don't think about ears that much but now i think now you've made me think about it oh sorry yeah so yeah you seem like you have a normal look to me nah it's
a big nose and a big big ears but when you're a teenager all that stuff is so much bigger on your face anyway yeah and you had the big dick thing too so oh yeah thank god i had that but nobody wanted to hear about that after the big nose and ears they were like yeah sure guy nobody gets all three big you know no nobody's that much of a legend yeah um yeah man i'm trying to think of what else really so you don't have any pets
oh you do have pets you said i don't have pets but i have two rainbow lorikeets that come to visit me every day and it's the same ones you said yeah the same two because one has like a squashed up foot like an injured foot oh yeah like somebody from game of thrones kind of i'll show you the photo because he's my screensaver on my phone but um yeah they're really friendly birds they're a big thing here in australia like everyone loves them i think everyone loves them they've they've got good personalities do you think that they know that you're on on tele and everything like that or
no i thought about that i reckon they might be on twit but they like literally i go away for months and i come back and they're they're there but yeah they've they because they literally come into my house and get in my sink and walk like oh wow they land on the edge of my laptop like they've seen me naked oh wow they're like we're really intimate they're artistic it sounds like yeah they sound like photographers they almost sound like a little bit of well yeah they maybe maybe they are taking some photos i don't know that it did
cross my mind that maybe um because there's some other like famous people that live in the area like hugh jackman's got a place down in bondi oh wow and i've always thought maybe the birds they're going to him because sometimes they come to mind they've got this powdery shit on their nose and like there's jackman feeding them and then they're coming to me yeah or are they doing cocaine down by jackman's well yeah yeah there's um they're gramming up down there by jackman's and then there's like powder on their nose yeah i could see that man
a lot of birds that everybody thinks they're doing good shit all the time that's a crazy thing man yeah that these are smart birds so it wouldn't surprise me dude i remember like i had when i was growing up they have in america they have a disease that's called down syndrome you know and it's like people have like a it's kind of like people just i don't know what it is really but they had a good buddy of mine when i was young that had It you know, and so we were children, you know, and we were good friends.
And I remember people always thought that he was, and he would do, we would go drink alcohol sometimes, and like he would do you know, steal shit, just regular kid shit.
And people thought that he was always doing like only sweet stuff, like he always got the benefit of the doubt.
Yeah, you know, yeah, people always thought, like, oh, he's probably doing a puzzle or something, you know, or he's with his grandparents, like, and he fucking wasn't.
He was, yeah, he was raising hell, you know.
It's like some things, like birds or whatever, they always get the benefit of the doubt, you know?
Yeah, we need to analyze that more carefully.
Yeah, just because you got colored feathers doesn't mean like you're not a dickhead.
Yeah.
It doesn't mean you're not really raising hell somewhere.
Yeah.
They could be somewhere doing who knows what.
I like to follow them.
I bought a drone and my thought was that I'm going to like fly it off the balcony and follow the lorikeets.
But they're so fast.
The lorikeets are so fast.
Plus, as soon as they hear the drone, they fly.
So it hasn't worked so far.
Because they have a nest and they have babies and stuff because they always bring their baby to me when they've had one.
Oh my god, this is definitely a Game of Thrones camera.
I wanted to take the drone and find out where the nest was.
Imagine that.
Yeah.
It'd be sick.
You're fucking watching them, following them.
Yeah.
It'd be good if I had like a virtual reality drone and then I could go to the nest and like reach out.
Yeah, spend time there.
Like it would feel like I was flying with them.
Daddy's home, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm a Chinese woman coming to get you in the middle of the night.
That's what you can do with the babies.
Yes.
I'm the baby's Chinese mother.
Yeah.
I like that.
Wouldn't that be crazy, man, if one day you wake up like in heaven or something and you come to and you just look in the mirror and you're an actual Chinese woman?
I would love.
Oh, that would be amazing.
I don't know if I'd love that.
I'd be so surprised.
Is that what happens?
You go to heaven and the real you is revealed.
I bet there has to be some sort of revelation or some sort of like an exposure, almost like you expose a photo where you see, oh, this is.
Yeah, you thought you got away with this.
This is the real thing.
Yeah, this is what was going on.
You were fucking around, you know.
You were playing with these birds on the balcony in the head, you know.
Yeah, cameras in their eyes.
Yup.
Yeah, you were feeding bird seed to a camera for fucking five years, man.
Imagine that.
And you have to watch the footage and heaven.
And you look like such an idiot, too.
You just keep feeding this camera seed.
Seriously, that could happen.
Was there ever like an entertainer from the States that reached out, like Jim Carrey or somebody like that, that was like, oh, I have to do something with this guy?
I can imagine that that's probably happened to you over the years.
That they've reached out to me.
Yeah, and they wanted to, like, they were just real keen on trying to work with you.
And keen means excited.
I just learned it like two days ago.
But yeah, they were excited to try and have you in their project.
I mean, even though it wasn't something maybe you were looking for, but.
Yeah, there's been a little bit of that, but sort of just more coming from like casting people with directors and stuff rather than actual like artists.
Artists.
Like a lot of them.
No, actually, that's not true.
Like people do.
There's been big, big name people who are fans of the shows and have reached out.
Yeah, it happens a fair bit.
But I kind of feel like a dickhead naming who those people are.
Oh, yeah.
No, I'm not asking who they are.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, I'm just asking if that's ever happened.
I guess like, yeah, I guess I was just kind of thinking like, because if I thought of like one of my favorite movies is Dumb and Dumber, right?
Yeah.
So I thought, well, would you ever see, you know, is that something that, like, David Spade the other day was telling me that Chris Farley got offered the role of And There's Something About Mary that Ben Stiller played, the main guy.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And I just never knew that.
It just blew my mind because then I start thinking of that movie and if Chris Farley plays Ben Stiller.
It's just interesting, you know?
Yeah.
So I guess I was just wondering if there had ever been like a unique role or if somebody had ever, or just if it had ever happened, not like specifics, you know?
There has been a few roles.
It's never like the handsome lead.
It's always like the kind of freak, the weird butler or something.
Like the kind of yeah, one of them was like James Franco's PA or something, but obviously it was some like camp weirdo.
Yeah.
Like I get those roles.
Like basically they've seen some it's either like, can you do Mr. G?
But we're not going to say that.
Right.
And you got to keep that magic for yourself.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't want to do that.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't like to outsource my magic if I have any, you know, or not magic, but whatever I do have, you know.
Yeah.
I don't want to just put it into whatever.
I'd rather save it and maybe hope that it, you know, that it can be good somewhere specifically.
Yeah, and the same.
Sam.
Well.
So you've only seen three episodes.
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
And also, I also haven't seen.
I haven't seen the heroes movie that you did.
Yeah.
Yeah, I can tell the bits you haven't seen because you kind of just your eyes glaze on it.
I know it's hard to hide it, huh?
Yeah.
I know I feel bad sometimes.
But you can't watch everything.
No, you can't.
There's a lot of stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I'm kind of glad I haven't seen everything because then there's some things that I can be like, you know, still amazed by.
Like I'm only on season two of Game of Thrones.
Oh yeah.
I'm on season one.
Are you?
Yeah.
That's awesome.
But I'm excited that that's ahead of me.
Because everyone told me to watch it.
So I was like, no, I'm not going to.
I'm secretly watching it.
Dude, I watched Scarface for the first time three years ago.
Shit.
I don't think I've seen it.
I haven't seen it.
Are you serious?
Is it good?
Fuck you, man.
You fucking just outdid me.
I waited my whole life to watch.
People kept telling me.
You gotta watch it.
It's like a legendary flick.
I haven't seen Top Gun.
Oh, fuck you, man.
Oh, you're gonna end up in hell, brother.
You're not gonna make it, man.
Yeah.
What about Thelma and Louise?
Have you seen it?
Seen it.
Yeah, the other one was Mad Man.
Everyone kept raving about it.
And I was like, no, not watching it.
And then I secretly watched it and I liked it, but I didn't want to tell anyone to have to get through seven seasons.
Because I didn't want to be in season three and go, oh, it's pretty good.
And they're like, Oh, haven't you seen season six?
Like, you don't want that?
Yeah, so I do a lot of secret watching.
Oh, I see.
What is uh, what about A League of Their Own?
Have you seen that movie?
That there's Madonna in that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Jean's good.
Tom Hanks is in it, the lesbian lady.
Yeah, I could have seen you playing one of the characters in that on the stage.
Yeah, I can, I would suit that, yeah.
A big butch lesbian, yeah, or not big, she could just be red.
Yeah, but yeah, a lipstick lesbian, yeah, lipstick lesbian, but like in a Chinese city, maybe I see.
Yeah, that's that would be my dream.
I could see you being like the hottest woman in like a Chinese village, kind of.
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Am I a Chinese woman?
I'm just a woman.
I mean, I just think I could see that.
Like, I could see if I showed up in like a village, like outside of Shanghai, you know, a couple hundred miles out, them being like, oh, this is our queen, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can see that too.
That'd be great, actually.
Yeah.
That'd be really good.
I wonder what kind of sometime if I could be like, if I had to be a woman, what type I would be.
I would be like, I think the bus driver, you know?
Oh, yeah.
Spit butch.
Yeah, tough, you know?
Bowling at night.
Yeah, but she's got a feminine side.
Yeah.
She can sort of wear a dress on Friday nights.
Yeah, on Friday nights she likes to wear a dress sometimes to go down to the VFW or something.
Yeah.
Do they have VFW here?
No.
It's like veterans of foreign wars.
It's where I like all the...
We've got the RSL.
Yeah.
Go down to the RSL and maybe have a cocktail.
The RE.
Yeah, I can see you there.
Do some video games or something in a dress, though.
You'd do some swing dancing, I reckon.
Yeah.
But you'd be sort of attractive when you want it to be.
Mostly butched.
Yeah, mostly just fucking riding the rails.
Yeah.
Out there, just getting people where they need to go.
It would be fun.
Yeah.
You could just do that for a day.
Be a real woman.
Yeah.
I think in a couple years you'll be able to.
I think in a couple years, like, with all these hormones and stuff they have now, I think.
Just chuck it on for a day.
Yeah.
Chuck on a fucking puss and a couple tits, you know?
Yeah.
And hit the, you know, go watch, you know, something.
A film or, you know, walk, take a run.
Yeah.
I'd like to run as a woman, I bet.
Go for a job.
Yeah, the sports bra.
You have to just let it all spit if you want.
Yeah.
See, you always go butch woman.
Yeah, that's true, huh?
Yeah, because, yeah.
Well, being the pretty woman would scare me, I think.
It seemed like so much pressure.
That would be hard work.
Yeah.
I don't envy that.
Always having to look kind of like perfect, eat your soup real perfectly.
Yeah.
It would make me nervous.
Everybody's staring at you.
Yeah.
Think about that.
Everybody's staring at you, and it happens when you're young, Yeah, it'd be hard.
Yeah, I don't know what else I would be.
Maybe.
I could see you also being like the guy on a soccer team that is in a wheelchair there on the side.
Oh, yeah.
He's in the team, but they just, it's like a sympathy thing.
And they wheel him out once a year and kind of wheel him down the grass.
Yeah.
Down the grass.
Oh, yeah, it's like because the field is a little bit.
Oh, yeah.
It's a cheap field, yeah.
Yeah.
It's downhill a little.
Yeah, I could do that.
Trying to think of some other.
Oh, I could also see you doing like a Robin Hood type of.
Oh, yeah.
I could see you being like a Robin Hood.
Yeah.
Robs from the rich and gives to the poor.
Yeah.
Does he swing through...
He doesn't like climb trees and shit, does he?
Robin Hood.
I could see you being like Tarzan's brother that wants to do something different, wants to get out of the jungle a little.
Alternative, like, yeah, he's a bit of an emo, Tarzan.
Yeah.
Bit skinny, huh?
Yeah, it's got a bit of a gut.
Yeah, his girlfriend's not that hot.
Yeah, she's not that hot, dude.
And she comes to the edge of the forest and like gives him books and shit.
Yeah.
And cassette tapes, even though he's an ever player.
Yeah.
He's always a bit depressed.
Yeah, I could see you doing that.
There's options.
Do you think sometimes, like, do you know when a character comes into your head, you're like, like, for lunatics, you know, did you have them all planned out?
Obviously, you had ideas, and you said once you get to set and you get in makeup, it grows even more.
But was there another character that you went to set with that you guys did that you left on the floor?
Not that we got that far with, but in the writing stage, I had like about eight characters all up, and then I kind of had to narrow it down.
I remember doing a drawing, actually, and I'm not even good at drawing stuff, and it was like of all of the characters together.
And so you could just look at the lineup and was imagining it how it would work.
And then there was a couple of characters I just thought, nah, you're kind of crossing over.
It's like a little too similar to that.
It's similar to something you've done before.
That's the thing, because I've done a lot of characters now, so I have to always different, I've done, you know, once you do long red hair, you can't do that again.
So you've got to think of different hairstyles.
Yeah, so a few of them I got rid of, but then some of the great ideas, I sort of morphed those ideas into the current characters.
So yeah.
Yeah, it is hard to find new characters at bed, huh?
Because once you've done like a guy, if it's a gay guy, you can't, it's like you could do another one, but it's, it still kind of sticks on the, it'll stick to the other one.
That's it, yeah.
It's hard, and there's always is a little bit of a crossover because there's certain things you find funny or interesting.
So you're always kind of going down the same path a little bit.
Yeah, but that's actually the challenge now is to make it different because I've done a lot of characters now.
Is that kind of, I mean, even though it's like, I'm sure there's a great sense of pride with that, is there a little bit of like, is it almost kind of a bummer sometimes that you've gone through like a lot of humanity and character, you know, that you have that much of a body?
Yeah, it is, because sometimes you've got a slightly different take on it, and I'm like, oh, fuck, that would be better.
But I'm like, yeah, but you kind of did that.
Like, you've done like the fashion thing or the skate thing or whatever it is, surf or whatever the kind of world is.
Yeah.
Or I've done an Asian woman before and I'm like, I can't really do that again.
Yeah.
But I do bring characters back.
Like there's been a lot of like spin-offs and stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah, they come back.
Well, I've seen, I think, some of the stuff I've seen, I've seen like Jonah from Tonga, and I've seen, I mean, yeah, it was just too much sometimes, but so good.
And it helped me learn about like Tongan people a little bit and like the characters and it gave me like a sense of like what it would actually be like to be at a school when you're young like that you know um and when he goes and lives with his auntie yeah god i fucking miss that family dude i miss the fam miss the fucking auntie man it feels so real like it feels like that that they exist out there somewhere still yeah does it feel like that to you too yeah to me it does yeah it's yeah and
it's kind of yeah i'm kind of caught caught up in the illusion of it as well yeah weirdly i i yeah i can totally i could totally imagine that you know a lot of kids these days their imagination is changing because you know with social media with computers and stuff it's different like you can create stuff actually more so your imagination is almost like the processor now is in the machine yeah whether than it used to have to be in your head you know it's
a little bit scary i wonder if they'll ever have you know if we'll ever be able to do some of the stuff that you know you and i have been able to do growing up like if the medium will change so much that they won't even like why is this guy pretending to be this character when he could just you know yeah you're right that's weird isn't it it's already kind of evolved a lot in the last 10 years or so so yeah does it scare you a little bit no i just kind of
roll with it like it's funny doing the show with netflix because they have this sort of the episodic thing but all the apps kind of run together for most people most people sit back and watch like one and a half episodes or something and then the the episode length time it's it's so we sort of they're basing it on the model of old broadcast tv but it's actually already evolving into this thing it's just this linear entertainment thing that people just tap into when they want
to and yeah we're sort of in this weird transition where it's a little bit there's a little bit leftover from the past yeah i mean kind of like yeah like when films first started and it was like vaudeville performers and shit and they were like um it was all just like watching a theatrical production like you were kind of looking at it for one perspective and then it kind of evolved and people were like well shit we could get different angles and we could edit this and
yeah anyway i don't know why i'm sounding like i know what i'm talking about you'd have seen it's changed yeah it evolved it's evolving and so i've i started doing 25 minute episodes or whatever and they went to air once a week and now i'm doing this kind of long thing that just keeps flowing together and yeah it's cool has it been cool has it was it has it has it been was it as cool of an experience doing lunatics as anything else yeah well cool and better in the way that it reached people because normally i have to like launch it in different countries
and you're kind of dealing with different networks where this was just like they just press the button and suddenly it's all over the world yeah it's a big audience so but making the show was pretty much the same experience i guess as all of them because yeah it's so crazy it's sudden like there are moments where i'll look at you and i'll see like just like another character will pop into my head that it's like i forgot about a little bit of oh really you know even from the past yeah there'll be like an angle where it's like oh there's a mr g yeah you know or
be like an angle and then like oh that's fucking you know oh i see how he's built that's how jonah was built you know like if just like the way your arm is bent it's just kind of bizarre man you know yeah it's really cool i don't see myself i guess so i don't really get that experience unless i'm looking in the mirror or something but um yeah i can imagine that must be weird people often do try to say who they think i'm the most like they do say that quite a lot but that must change though because then suddenly there are moments where i'm like oh he definitely seems
like gavin a little bit more you know yeah the earl of what is it called gayhurst yeah dude what a fucking great name um chris lily man thank you so much i don't think there's anything else really i mean we can kind of chill and wrap it up is that okay with you yeah that sounds good it's been really fun has it been yeah i didn't know what to expect but it's been so relaxed and you're very easy to talk to well thanks man i appreciate it yeah i wanted this to be just a i mean i think
this would be a great episode man our listeners are going to absolutely be over the moon just to have to be able to have like just an experience with you just as a regular person you know and um yeah it's just inspiring man it's inspiring to see like uh because there's nothing else out there like you so people need to see it and young people need to see it so they can be reminded i can oh i can do that you know yeah because that's how i learned about stuff watching i would see in living color and like damon wayans and stuff i'd be like oh i can do that that's a thing yeah wow i now i'm gonna do that you know look
at kids sending me videos all the time of characters like they it does inspire yeah it's fun that would be great um do you plan to will you make more stuff in the future you're not gonna you don't have any plans on quick and being creative do you not at all no i love doing this it's so fun good can't wait to do more cool brother uh chris lily ladies and gentlemen check out lunatics um and then go back if you haven't and watch summer high tie uh jonah from tonga and um and you'll fall into the rest of the world and
uh and tell your friends about it because yeah for some reason man summer high tie is the greatest gift i can give to any of my friends that haven't i'm like have you seen this and when they say no i'm just like oh fucking merry christmas motherfucker you know it's fun thank you brother thanks man yeah now i'm just floating on the breeze and i feel i'm falling like these leaves i must be cornerstone oh but when i reach that ground i'll
share this peace of mind i found i can feel it in my bones But it's gonna take a little time for me to set that parking break and let myself all mine shine that light on me.
I'll sit and tell you my stories.
Shine on me.
And I will find a song out.
I will stay here just for you.
And I've been moving way too fast on a runaway train with a heavy load of mine.
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