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Music Roast w/ Stevie Starlight | This Past Weekend 102

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Today I got a man that's in here.
Here, let me...
Some of you listeners who have been here since day one will recognize this song.
Yeah.
This thing will make you want to play your leg, boy.
Yeah!
Hang up down the mountain.
You hear that?
You hear this one, huh?
Set me free.
Just don't say goodbye.
Yeah.
Enjoy the destination.
Nair shine, near shine, near shine.
Fantasy.
Fantasy, baby.
Paint it on the wall.
It's never too late to come over.
Time slips away from you and me now.
So don't you take it.
All right, all right, all right, all right, all right.
Guys, that song was given to us in the beginning of this podcast to use by a man, a magical element of the universe.
I mean, just like, I mean, in a special type of human, almost like a, you know, as if they had some dark arts, but the Lord gift-wrapped them, you know?
It's almost like the devil and the Lord just cleared their throat at the same time and just spit something right here into our studio.
And this beautiful creature is here today.
And that is Mr. Stevie Starlight.
Thank you.
Awesome, man.
Stevie Starlight.
What's up, bud?
Good to have you, man.
Thank you.
Yeah, nice to see you today.
Dude, thanks so much for coming in and joining us.
We just kind of like, I don't want to say we pirated your song.
No, it's good.
I kind of wanted to move that closer to you.
I wanted to donate it to you guys and dedicate it as a gift for what you do for all your fans, you know?
Oh, right on, man.
Well, yeah, I mean, we definitely love it.
Like, I feel like, well, why don't you tell me, like, how did the song come about for you?
Well, you know, it just kind of just came to me.
I don't mean to just shortchange it like that.
It just really came in a matter of five minutes.
Wow.
And usually my best songs come that way.
Yeah?
Yeah, like the ones I work on for a while, people are like, all right, they don't really feel that, you know?
Yeah.
What do you think it is about that?
You know what?
It's just a gift from God when it comes like that, man.
You know, the music gods, when they give it to you like that, you just got to take it and just run with it.
Do you find that there's a certain time of the day or year or anything like that?
And there's a water for you right there if you want it.
Do you find that there's a certain time of day that you feel those compulsions or those?
You know what?
There's no time and no exact time because it comes at random hours.
It'll be four in the morning.
I'm sitting in bed.
I'm like, I hear a little something in my head.
I go, I got to get up and go put that down.
Because if I don't, it just goes into the ether, gone.
And then I'm like, damn, what could that have been?
Wow.
You know, when I do force myself to do it, and sometimes it is forcing yourself to do it because it's like, you got to work it.
Yeah.
And you do it.
And then it's like, wow, I'm really glad I did that.
But for that particular song, I remember sitting, it happened like, boom, like I had this little riff.
And then the lyrics just came out.
A man could be higher than a mountain.
It just really just came out, you know, and I wrote it all down on paper within 30 minutes, and the song was done.
Yeah, it's a hit, man.
And so whenever, like, how did you get into the tunes, man?
How did you get into tuning?
My stepdad played a lot of music growing up, you know, 12, 13. I was breaking the strings.
He'd be coming in, whooping me.
Yeah, was he a decent man?
He was.
You know what?
I didn't understand at the time.
He was very strict, very disciplined, disciplined, you know, to the max, you know?
Yeah.
Scary.
Wow.
Plus he was Guatemalan, and that didn't like help.
Yeah, Guatemalan, dude.
It's a fruit, too, if you have a lisp.
Yeah, bro.
Guatemalan, right?
So, yeah, you know, it was like, he was very musical, though.
So I'm very thankful for that.
He had keyboards all around.
I was always just trying to pick up what I could, you know.
So that's really how you got into music.
He just had is basically because of a step, because that had these elements around.
Totally.
Very much so.
You know, he was there, and he would lock them all up in a room.
And I'd sneak out and I'd go into the room and I'd have to lock that door up, you know.
But I eventually figured out a little trick.
I'd put a belt on a coat hanger and I'd latch it under the lock underneath the door and get it just right where I'd hear it and I'd pull it down and the door would lock and I'd be out the other side.
Wow.
He figured out my trick later on.
He wanted to whoop me, but he's like, it's pretty smart that you figured that out.
So he had to respect it a little.
Kind of, you know?
With music, like, what's your journey been like with music?
Like, did you start here in Los Angeles?
Did you come here to Los Angeles?
So my real dad was like a Playboy.
He was out here working for Orion Pictures, doing the whole thing, you know, single bachelor man.
And I come out here on the Christmas vacations in summer, and I'd love the air out here.
I felt something was different about this place, you know.
And I'd want to be out here.
And he'd be like, hey, what's your stepdad doing?
Is he still whooping you?
I'll come there and whoop him.
Like, he would be like that.
And he actually flew to Texas one time.
Really?
He was pulling your ear, he'd go step outside, Steve.
And all I hear is like a cartoon.
And he walked out.
He goes, come on, let's go to the park.
Steve, my real dad's an Italian.
Crazy dude, man.
So you had the Italians and the Guatemalans going at it.
Wow, man.
Your mom likes to fuck abroad, huh?
And they both have like the same birthday.
No.
November, yeah.
Both hardcore Scorpios.
Damn.
Crazy, right?
So what does that tell you about your mom?
Like when you look at her partners, like, what does that mean?
My mom's a crazy fire, too.
She's an Aries, and she just like, I don't know if that's fire, but she's very, she's like her mom a lot.
She's Aries, same, same kind of vibe.
I feel it.
Yeah.
Like, you know, it's a certain energy, you know, but they want to be left alone, but they also want to do a lot on their own.
They got a young mind, but they're also very, very smart about things.
It's like, it's interesting.
But I love my mom.
I talk to her.
I don't call her all the time, but I wish I would.
I don't call anybody all the time.
I spend a lot of time by myself.
Solitude.
And so when you got out here, so your father, your real father was living out here.
Yeah.
So you came to visit him.
I did.
And then at what point did you kind of make that move, that full move out there?
When I was 17, I got kicked out of my place in Texas.
So then you had to come out here?
Yeah.
So my dad goes, all right, come with me.
I spent a week on my dad's couch.
He booted me, kicked me out there too.
For what?
Because I rode my bike and I snuck out of the house and he's like, he's like, you want to go out with them?
You want to go outside?
Go out with them now.
And he took my bike, brought it downstairs.
He goes, now you go with them.
And I had nowhere to go.
And I was like, calling him, dad, please, can I come home?
And a week into it, no, but he's like, a week later, he's like, all right, come on, Steve.
Wow, a week he made you stay out?
Yeah.
A week I was out there, bro.
And I was remembering with these freaks, belly dancers in Venice going nuts on rooftops.
I'm like, I love this.
People playing bongos, going, bucka, bucka, buck, go.
I'm like, this is awesome.
But like two days later, you start getting hungry.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
You wonder, where am I going to go?
Where am I going to sleep tonight?
That roof is kind of getting a little weird, you know?
Yeah, so then you had to get back home.
Yeah, man, you know?
And then when did the, so now you had these musical elements, you're living with your dad out here, and then what happens?
You know, I just, I found that this is what I want to really do.
I got to put my best foot forward and really just stay on the grind and just like, you know, take it seriously.
And did that happen or did it not happen?
Well, I've been, I took it seriously.
I've got my music in a lot of movies and stuff, and I've made money on my music.
I still do.
That's how I make my money.
That's how I support myself.
And so I buckled down somewhat to at least get that into a position where I can, you know, sustain some life energy out of it.
Yeah.
And whenever, like, so, but take me in.
So when did Stevie Starlight start?
That happened when I had a, my real last name is Natalie.
You know, like my dad says his last name is Christmas.
They call me Stevie Christmas, but that's in the past.
And my grandfather's name was Nick, so he was St. Nick Natalie.
Christmas.
What about that, right?
So, yeah, so basically I was in this band called the Stevie Natalie Band this is when all that Iraq war was going on and people thought I was Stevie and Natalie band and that had to change real quick so my drummer I broke down on my car at this 57 Mercedes-Benz right and I'm driving my car had no headlights no dome lights no rear lights no brake lights no nothing views went out that's the dark arts on wheels I'm like I'm gonna make it home this guy Jimmy's beautiful guy still talking this day long hair Italian
dude or glass blower has a shop right up the street I uh he goes he goes you make it home he's like dude you're like Stevie Starlight and he put that name on me it created a monster and I turned everything into Stevie Starlight to his dismay at the time because he didn't really like that but he just supports whatever I do he's a good guy so so at that point so Stevie Starlight was born born that day that night and did you take it on as like an like a persona or was it just a stage thing you know what it's that's a good question I um I took it on because I
felt I can do more and not and step out of my box because you have some other name kind of to run with or someone new yeah and now I'm getting to a point where like I want to maybe transmogrify into another element you know like maybe just my who I really am Stevie Natalie oh you know so you might back out of the starlight I might be a little you know a little too tutti fruity for some people but you know what I'm saying don't leave me hanging on cam no I'm
sorry I didn't see you I never would bring it back there we go yeah um so I want to know like like with music because now was it a did you feel because a lot of people move to Los Angeles and music is like their dream right or music is they have this goal that they have to achieve and if they don't get there and you know and they really equate a lot of who they are to I think levels of success how how has that honestly looked for you like in your life well
you know what that's a good question too and I think about that a lot but I don't I'm not I'm not too hard on myself I don't beat myself up on it because I know I have a certain path and that's ultimately gonna take place and whatever happens in that time is good and and this is the way that God wants me to do this and I'm gonna do it yeah and I don't beat myself up too much good for you man that's nice that's a nice gift to have is to not beat yourself up I do though sometimes because you know I can be my own worst critic as well and I might not crack that whip like on an
eight to five on myself because I'll be up at five in the morning making music and I'll still do it right but um I sometimes I wish I did have that a little bit more that other side that keeps you more in tune yeah a little bit sometimes yeah it's a give and take you know right it is a give and take it's such a give and take man because it's like you know we're just talking a little bit ago about having to do you know podcasting it's kind of takes away from being able to do stand-up comedy sometimes it's like it's uh you know it it's still
awesome and it's still a neat thing to do and it's like a fun way to communicate with people but you know it'll come like you know I'll have some sets in the evening and then I'll be finally be sitting down at like you know 830 to start thinking about jokes and ironing that out and so it's it's really tough and it's tough when you're a creative type of person which I'm not ordaining myself a creative type of person but I mean I couldn't run a fucking you know like there's a million things I couldn't do but I can sit I can sit in a chair and
think up ideas good yeah but when you're a creative type of person it's tough to have that other side I know it's tough to also be your own boss yeah it's like I'm my own boss and I'm also the worst employee yeah but he helps you out on some stuff right yeah no Chris definitely helps out I mean I've big help from Chris and Nick that helps a lot too Nick's nice yeah Nick's nice he's a cool guy yeah he's a suit he's a super guy he's a premature baby but he's um yeah he was yeah couldn't tell at all yeah if you get to know him a little bit he comes in just about a month shy you're funny but
uh he's like an eighth month you know he's like an eight month old forever okay but he's beautiful young man yeah um but yeah so how so were there parts so you didn't really attach your you didn't attach kind of like material success or Hollywood success basically to your happiness no no basically I knew I was gonna make it so it didn't matter right and maybe that's gonna be when I'm 50 but I know that it's all you go with you go through the journey like I flipped the script on that one when I said enjoy the destination because we're already there you know what I mean you're
already there enjoy now right you know enjoy the destination because you know people say enjoy the journey you do this is the journey the destination you're already here right you're already at your destination it's right now it's right now you know it's just like a yeah it's almost like a just a way of reframing like breathe and just wake up and be thankful for your breath and just whatever happens throughout the day you know you'll be happy for it yeah you know you're alive you know that's great man it's amazing to stay in that place of gratitude um yeah you know i'm thinking as you say like you
know the journey and the destination i i'll i'll start to realize a little bit like as you know as little things will happen as i go along in life maybe i'll you know get to work on stage with somebody that i really admire or like somebody that was like a hero of mine growing up as a comedian i'll hear them at like a show of mine maybe in the back i get they'll have a distinct laugh yeah this is like four years ago they had this guy named damon wayans who used to be on living color yeah i'm very familiar with him yeah and he i heard him in the back he was in the back of what at
a show i was at he was performing next but i heard him laugh wow because he has a very distinct laugh and i was like wow i was like that's crazy on stage thinking and hearing that and it's the only laugh i could hear it just suddenly just rung out just like a like a little christmas bell and then so you have little moments that kind of like excite you and for a few months maybe you know to sustain you yeah you're on your own again man you got to figure this out man but then you're back to just yeah you're back on your own but i'm starting to realize that it's the parts in between those
where you're battling it out or you were staying with the past time and that's a lot of that those are really the funnest parts those are really the most it's the challenge it is it's the challenge for sure yes it's the it is that journey that is the that's the that's where you learn about yourself.
Yeah, you don't really learn about yourself in the moments that are like oh, when you're on stage playing, that's not when you learn about yourself.
You don't learn when you're talking so much, you just you know, you're learning when you're listening, you know, in life.
So, those moments when you're looking for things and you're listening, you're peeping out things, you're like trying to attain some inspiration.
Yeah, that's when you're learning.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's so funny.
I don't even know what I'm saying.
I'll believe you, though.
It's like, say you're driving somewhere.
But you don't learn when you're on stage, when you're playing the music as much.
You learn when you're off stage and then it comes out.
I go into another element sometimes when I'm, I don't even know I'm there and I'll just transcend into a thing where I can just feel free.
And I'm not even trying to do that.
That's not what I'm like.
Sometimes I'll be very focused and understand what's going on at the moment.
But when I find like I'm going to a solo or something, I just let loose, you know?
And I couldn't even tell you what I'm thinking then, man.
I really couldn't.
You know, they put my stuff onto a brainwave and asked, what are you thinking right now?
I don't know what they would find in that thing.
Really?
And so have you your whole time here in LA?
Have you lived in Venice?
Have you lived?
I've gone all around, man.
I've been through Eagle Rock, East LA, down to Malibu.
I've been in Venice most of the time.
Yeah.
Santa Monica, of course.
Venice has changed, huh?
Big time.
Big time.
What's happening in Venice, man?
Well, you know, I'm looking at this nice painting here of Venice.
I know the guy that actually painted the whole of that building right there behind that Mercedes, the whole, all that stuff.
He's an amazing mural artist.
Oh, yeah.
Is that where that...
And across the street is Larry's.
But, man, Venice has changed.
A lot of the good people are still there.
All the OGs are there.
All the Venice crew is there that I know.
I still go back there all the time and say what's up.
A lot of good people love me still there, and I love them.
But just as far as the dynamic of all the stores moving in there and Snapchat and all that stuff, people got a little patured with that.
I guess they bailed out of there.
Google is there, Snapchat, Vice, a bunch of stuff over there.
They just feel impeded on because that's just, you know, it's a really hardcore town, Venice, isn't it?
Yeah.
Don't you think?
Yeah, well, I'm fascinated by it because I just know it from like an outsider's perspective.
Right.
So, but yeah, I mean, it has this, it has this, it's like where saltwater kind of met grunge a little bit or met, I don't know.
You tell me about it.
Well, I got my first.
What was it like and what is it like?
When I was five years old, my dad was living out there.
And I went there.
I was at the beach.
I felt something in the air.
And ever since then, that feeling has never left me.
It's always the same when I go back there.
If I go there today, I'll feel that same feeling when I was five.
You were just talking about this the other day.
Smells and certain things can bring you back to something.
Yeah.
And man, just right when I go there, I feel it.
And I'm sure people do wherever they're from.
They can go back to that place and feel that feeling.
That's really beautiful.
But Venice is a special place.
Yeah, it'll always be.
And times will change and people will come and go.
But that energy will always be there.
Yeah.
I think.
Do you feel like, I mean, I mean, you know, a lot of times I notice that things get changed by, you know, when money moves in, you know, when money moves in or when things become, it's crazy.
It's like when we start to put, I don't know if it's appreciation on something or value on something or when something's cool, it's hard to keep it cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, talking about things moving in like that.
And I did some reading on some things.
And that's actually like a good thing because, you know, young money comes in and old money moves out.
It's just like, it's a way of recycling things, you know, and that's that's that needs to happen actually in life.
That's it's going to happen no matter what.
They care about it anyways.
But some people get a little, you know, attached.
They feel like it's their home or whatever.
But you know what?
Sometimes it's the way it is, man.
It has to happen that way.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
It's like a lot of that maybe then is just about attachment.
It's like we get attached to the way a street was or to a family that, you know, or to what we like to see when we look outdoors, we like to see that.
And then we get attached to it.
And when that changes, that kind of scares us.
Yeah, for sure.
It's interesting how, you know, Venice is such a, I don't want to say it's like a, there's, it's almost like this bottleneck of like art and dreams.
And yes.
And I still see those people out there living on the beach, you know?
Yeah.
Just out there on those little bungalows or not bungalows, but what are those things, cabana type things that are called all along the beach?
Not bungalows.
Are they campers?
No, they're not campers.
They're just like those little bodegas.
No.
Not bagodas.
Bodegas?
Yeah, something like that.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Losing my mind right now.
What are bagodas?
I don't know.
Begonias are flowers.
Pagodias.
You know what I'm talking about?
Bodegas?
Pagoda?
You know, those things where they all hang out, and there's this little...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're all still there, man.
They're just drinking in the day and they're just like getting by.
But I'm like, wow, what do you want to do?
You know, is this what you want to do?
Maybe this is what they want to do.
Yeah.
This is what they're into.
What's the lot, like, do you feel like, so a place like Venice, like, and like, you know, you say it's still the same sum, you know, but other people have moved in and things have to change and that's the way it goes.
So do you feel like that a lot of people, we want to be so free, but then yet we get so attached?
Yeah, they want to be free, but some people were born there.
You know, some of those people that were born there, those are the ones I'm talking about have a real like connection with it and kind of like mad people are stepping in there.
Yeah.
They kind of need to get over that in a way because like, you know, they're always going to be there.
Nobody's going to tell them to leave.
Oh, that's a good point.
It's like, no one's going to tell them to leave.
But people always want to come to Venice.
It's like millions of people every year come there.
Yeah.
More, you know?
It's pretty fascinating.
It is.
It's a nice place, though.
It's gave me a lot of inspiration, helped me write a lot of songs.
And I spent a lot of time there in my life.
And hopefully I'll spend a lot more time there, too.
Yeah.
You have any children or no?
No.
None yet.
How about you?
No shooting stars.
No children yet, man.
It could happen one day.
We'll see.
You know, I've been saving a little bit of semen at the house, bro.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I got some frozen.
Yeah.
Do you?
My buddy said you can just freeze it yourself.
Wow.
Good idea.
Yeah.
Why not?
I make so much of it.
I might as well put some away, right?
Jeez.
Spraying, man.
It's like, I'm just burning this dick at both ends.
I might as well save a batch or two, you know?
So we wanted to have you come on, man.
I mean, we appreciate you letting us use your song.
Yeah, man, that's for you guys.
And it's fun, man.
And I type that in.
I'm like, hope you like it, man.
He called me back.
Boom.
This is a banger.
I can't wait to put it on.
I'm like, oh, thanks, Theo.
Yeah, dude, it's just so good.
It's such an uplifting hit.
And we would like to do an album and comprise like different, you know, maybe 10 different songs over about after another year.
Yeah.
And then put them out.
Got my blessing on that for sure.
I appreciate that.
And we'll do, yeah, we'll probably just do like a profit share where half the profits go to the artist and half of it, maybe we'll find a charity or something.
We'll think of something cool.
Yeah, whatever you guys want, man.
I'm with you guys all the way, dude.
I love your attitude, though, of just not holding too tightly on the stuff.
You know what?
So I have another side of me, too.
Like, I need work, help, and work on.
There's things that I get, you know, hyper-sensitive on.
I need to work on as well.
I'm in no way by a perfect person, but I do appreciate you saying that.
I do try to be as positive as possible.
Yeah.
Yeah, it is tough.
It's tough these days because you do want to, you know, and I find it even in here working on the podcast, like how, you know, we have such a good game playing and we have a good goal.
And then sometimes, but then there's certainly edgy and feisty moments along the way.
Yeah.
And I watch all your stuff too, man.
Oh, yeah.
You know, I was a big fan before we even got in contact.
And I was watching you.
I showed Brittany a bunch of your stuff.
She's like, he's hilarious.
Oh, thanks, dude.
And I mean to say, why isn't this guy global?
And I'm like, dude, he is global.
Every world knows about this guy.
And then I remember you were a little down on yourself for not being accepted into the Jimmy Fallon thing.
You know how that whole thing has changed, man.
I watched the people that are on there right now.
I almost throw up, dude.
I'm so sorry, dude, because you were so deserving of that.
Thanks, man.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, a lot of men.
Some stuff has just gotten so boring.
Yeah.
And some people say they're so accepting, but it's only accepting in a weird way.
And there's politics involved.
And I don't even know if we should go into that right now.
No, we don't have to.
I know what it is, though, man.
I know what it is.
It's really weird.
I think just a lot of people are disconnected.
I think there's just some different perspectives, you know, and people aren't seeing the same world.
True.
You know, people are just seeing the different worlds.
So outside of music, like what other loves have you had in your life, man?
You know what?
I love a lot of things.
I like just a lot of artistry stuff, you know.
I like to act lately.
I've been doing some of that.
Oh, that's dope.
I've been doing some stuff, you know?
Yeah.
Commercials and stuff.
Oh, that's cool.
I could see that, man.
You definitely seem like kind of like a bit of a flamingo.
And it's not even something I wanted to do.
I kind of got pushed into it, like helping this one person.
Then from there, I got a commercial agent.
From there, I did like three commercials, dude.
It's just like, I don't even really know what I'm doing.
I'm just having fun with it.
Yeah.
You know, just being in the moment, trying to figure it out.
What are things you do to stay in the moment?
You know, that seems to be like kind of a theme.
Well, I have severe attention deficit hyperactive disorder to the max in high definition, dude.
So I'm trying to take it.
That's 4K.
Just to be here and just to kind of be in the moment with you.
Yeah.
But I, man, all the time the day flies by, dude, so fast.
My mind just races and races and races.
I got to take a few steps.
Meditation helps a little bit.
I'm not that good at it.
I just try to just breathe and just like relax.
Diet helps, you know, just kind of like what you eat and what not, what times you eat.
But I have severe ADD.
I can't even read a whole book, a paragraph or something, and I forget what I just read.
That happens to me sometimes, too.
This is very frustrating sometimes.
Okay, so when you get to that point of like, like, what do you think happens?
Because I notice this too.
I'll be reading a paragraph and then halfway through, I'll start thinking about something else.
You might have a little bit of it.
But I won't even notice where I left the story I was reading.
I won't even notice where I left that and went into my own story that's going on in my head.
You might have some of it.
And it's not a bad thing.
It's an artist thing.
Yeah.
Very creative thing.
You should embrace it.
What do you think it is?
Why do you think it happens?
Like, I know, you know, there's all these scientific reasons, but what do you think is going on that we would just drift off?
Because, you know, we're reading something.
Yeah.
And we had intention to read it.
Yeah, of course.
You want to read it.
Basically, it's chemicals in your brain, dude, that are not formulating to so that you can attain focus is the problem.
And you have so much going on in your mind.
Maybe that's not as important to you as what you're trying to think about right now.
Do you think it's any of its ego?
Like we think that what we're going to create in our head is better than what is already here?
No, I don't think it's like that.
It's in the moment, like more in the moment.
It's just like a matter of what you're doing in the moment.
Like it's chemicals of the brain.
I don't even know what that's what they've been telling me all about.
Chemicals of the brain.
Chemicals of the brain.
They're telling us that.
I don't even know what it means, but that's what they told me, so I'm trying to pass it along.
I have no idea, but you know, I read something all the time.
I don't remember what the fuck I just read, dude.
I don't know what I just read.
And I don't feel dumb because I know I'm a smart person, but I'll go back and read it again.
I'll get it.
Yeah.
Do you notice that that has gotten better or worse over time?
And not even having to do with attention deficit issues, but with just the way that we've evolved as people and how you see just in your own life.
Do you see that it's hard for you to do that?
I don't know if the problem has gotten worse or better, but I know that I've gotten better as a person.
I've evolved because I've been, you know, I've learned more and I'm more advanced with my way of thinking.
So that helps it.
Right.
So you've got, right, okay.
So who you are now, you're able to like at least regroup and, you know, read it over again or re-examine it or take a moment and then re-approach it.
Yeah, as before, I was frustrated and I wouldn't understand, you know.
But now that I'm matured, I understand what's going on here.
And I think that my level of comprehension has gotten better.
Yeah.
Do you think, but say if you were to read a book when you were 20 and you read a book when you're 40?
Do you feel like one is easier than the other?
For me, 40 is much harder to read a book.
You're not 40 yet, are you?
No, but I'm 38. so you're right.
We're born in 1980, both of us.
Oh, really?
We're both monkeys.
Okay, cool, man.
Yeah.
We're both from the south.
Yeah.
I'm from Houston.
Are you really?
Yeah, yeah.
I was born in Houston.
Wow.
Yeah, and I made my way up to New Orleans a couple times.
Oh, that's cool, man.
Anyways, yeah.
What took you there?
Just partying, people on little party buses and whatnot.
We're going to New Orleans for the weekend.
You want to come?
Sure, I'm 14. I'll go have a party with you guys.
Yeah, I was out there.
It was the wildest times I've ever had in my life right down there, too.
Oh, yeah?
Oh, yeah.
You know, down there, man.
There's some real, that's fiasco country.
Yeah.
There's some real fiasco.
Yeah, you see beads out there all year long, and that's like Moni Graw, you know?
Oh, yeah.
One lady one time had a bunch of beads in her pussy.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Wow.
That was like, what?
What?
Was she just fanning them out or what?
Yeah, she just pulled them out for everyone.
And nobody wanted them.
God, that was terrible.
Yeah.
That's too much.
It's like, yeah, lady.
Oh, my gosh.
Nobody wanted them.
Yeah, she thought people wanted them, and they looked like they'd been in there a while, bro.
You know, it was like, definitely nobody wanted those last week either of them.
Oh, God.
With a pearl or something?
They were still in there.
I mean, something had happened to them.
I think they'd gotten a little bit, you know, they might have been pearlized a little bit, you know.
But then somebody, I remember we had a girl put a piece of sand in her vagina and tried to make a pearl over like about 11 years.
How crazy is that?
Yeah.
Damn.
Kind of cool.
It's all right.
They got some real adventure bears down there.
Yeah, they do.
Well, since we loved your song so much, we wanted to have you come in and we want to, we've had so many songs submitted over the past year.
I mean, it's a bit honored that you guys play me after having all those submissions.
Yeah, no, well, look.
It's very cool of you guys.
Dude, it's an uplifter, and we'll play it more often.
Sometimes we go through cycles where we, you know, get stuck in one.
I watched, I see how you, all the other stuff is really good too, man.
Oh, thanks.
Mr. Jacobs.
Yeah.
All of them.
Everything you put on is great.
Yeah, well, thanks.
You're still in good company.
Yeah, well, I think you are.
Thank you.
Yeah, I think you are, man.
I think you're the leader of good company.
Oh, man.
Come on.
We want to roast a couple of songs out here.
You can like them, and I can roast them.
We've already asked people if we could roast their music.
People have sent in some great stuff over the past year, and people have sent in some.
I'm up for whatever.
People have sent in some real shit.
Oh, come on.
So, look, I feel you, bro.
Look, I feel you.
All right, let's do this.
And I have personally emailed these people and made sure I said, look.
Oh, that's good.
They probably feel good about that.
We may roast some of it.
Wow.
All right.
So the first one we're going to get to is Kill My Buzz by Jimmy DeMora.
And this is actually the one that even started this because this guy specifically asked us to roast them.
Wow.
Kill my buzz.
And who's Buzz?
A grandparent?
Yeah.
Well, we're going to find out in the second thing we'll get to.
Maybe we're talking about Buzz Aldrin doing some stuff.
And I looked Buzz Aldrin in the eyes and it looked like he hadn't been to space.
And I'll say that.
Yeah, and I remember that episode he said that.
And I go, wow, that's interesting.
Because I have my own thoughts about that whole thing.
We'll get into that one.
Okay, we'll get into that right after this hit.
Here we go.
Here we go.
It's not too bad.
Not too bad.
I mean, I'll throw a jab in if I feel it, man, but it's not too bad yet.
I can see this one being like a beach.
Okay.
Mixing a little bit of that hip-hop with that artist rubbing with that guitar music.
Pretty good.
Okay, let's phase out of that one, man.
Yeah, I feel like that's something you would listen to maybe at the beach if you're having fun with your friends.
You know, or if somebody, like, if you threw a frisbee into a neighbor's yard, you had to go get it.
Turn it back up.
That's exactly what's going on with you.
Yeah.
You gotta go over there and get it.
That's that's part of playing.
Yeah, like, oh, shit, my frisbee's over there.
You gotta run in and get it.
Precisely.
Okay, cool.
That's good.
What do you think about that moon landing, man?
You mentioned that.
You know, I had my thoughts on and off about it.
And I go on and off too.
I was very big into, like, and I hated space and Star Wars and all that shit.
I'm not into like Star Trek.
Let's get that one thing clear.
Really?
Starlight don't like Star Trek?
No, I don't.
Wow.
It just seemed a little like, yeah, not beneath me, but I just never got it, right?
As far as like the alien stuff, I was way into that for a while.
And I had a vision of this alien like hovering over me.
I don't know if I was abducted or what.
I don't think I was abducted.
But it's a strong vision of this reptilian was there.
And it's green, and I still see it right now in my head.
It's really weird.
And where was that at in Texas?
Yeah, that was out here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I was in my bed.
As I always had these paralyzing moments where you couldn't move and you think things were going on to you.
And I rolled with that for a while because the more you think about that, the more it's going to progress.
Then I had an entity that was like a spirit that followed me around.
And I was through a couple girlfriends that lived, man.
But it finally left, right?
And it would embody the girlfriends?
No, but they would leave and it would come on way heavy into me.
And I was scared to go to sleep.
So I wouldn't sleep, dude.
I wouldn't sleep.
That's how scared I was.
And when I went to sleep, of course, there it was again, waiting for me, dude.
So it was waiting on the other side of sleep?
Yeah.
It was waiting right after you would.
Exactly.
Oh, my God.
It was so scary.
But anyways, as far as the space, and that's gone now.
That left me about 10 years ago.
Like a shadow kind of lived.
That's right about the song Shadow Man, which is the sound of the song.
Inside of your subconscious, really.
Yeah.
Creeping darkness, shadow on the wall.
Felt a footstep, monster, and it made me crawl.
Damn.
You know what I mean?
Living lonely, the secret world of mine.
I'll wake you up in the morning and lead you on the starting line.
You know what I mean?
And so that was one of my songs, Shadow Man.
I'm going to put that out a little bit later.
Yeah, let us know, man.
We'll play that one.
As far as the space stuff, though, I really was fascinated with it for some reason.
Something, I still am to this day, but you know, I have my thoughts about the moon landing.
I think it did happen because, and I think it didn't happen.
The Van Allen belt and all that stuff, radiation, how the hell are you going to get past that?
Why do we not go back?
And all this other stuff.
Why didn't Russia say, hey, you guys really didn't go there?
Or like, why didn't, you know, China?
There's so many reasons why I think that they didn't go.
And there's so many few reasons why I think they did go too, you know?
They just didn't have that need to go back.
The space race was over with as far as Russia and What are your thoughts on that?
Well, it's like, did we get there and then there's no more value in going?
Right.
Like, because it seems like nowadays, with so many companies, that some company almost would be like, we want to get there and put an advert, you know, like.
I've heard that we were banished from the moon.
Like, we went there and we're not supposed to go back.
Really?
Yeah.
Buy someone or something?
Some things that are up there.
Damn.
And we were banished from the moon.
But now, why wouldn't Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin and those guys, if they really went, why wouldn't they?
Well, you know, on his deathbed, Aldrin, not Buzz Aldrin, but who's the first guy that landed on Armstrong, the first guy to land them, you know, he sent his kind of convoluted message?
Did you ever hear that?
You should go on YouTube after this and just check it out.
His message to humanity.
Really?
Yeah, you got to hear what he says.
Basically saying the whole thing was a hoax.
Uh-uh.
Yeah, and then he died a couple days later.
But I wonder, how do they know, okay, we're going to get these men who are going to carry this lie forever?
Yeah, they've got to be actors almost, right?
Yeah, but not only do they have to be actors, but they have to, you would have to want to act at a level that was so in your core.
You'd have to want to be able to deceive at a level.
How do they know that they're going to be able to keep that deception?
The whole life.
That's right.
Buzz Auburn got some dude in the face.
Did you see that video?
No, I'm not surprised, though.
Every time I look at him, he looks pissed.
Yeah, he's like, you are not an astronaut.
Knocked him out right in the street.
And he jacked him?
It's kind of cool.
Oh, I bet.
He probably got tired of hearing it from people.
Yeah, that's what it is.
Yeah, and I think that if we can fake a moon landing, we can probably trick a couple people to make them think they went to the moon.
So they probably think that they did.
If the moon landing's fake, they probably just thought they went to the moon.
I think that's a good point.
Maybe they did go somewhere.
Yeah.
You know, it could have been Cincinnati.
It could have been Dale.
Yeah.
It could have been Dakota.
I've never even been to North Dakota.
They probably could have been there.
Right.
I heard that Stanley Cubit directed the whole thing here in Hollywood.
And if you see these little X lines on different little parts where they're getting the printouts for the, you know, it's very convoluted.
I noticed Joe Rogan was way into it.
Now he doesn't talk about it.
You know, I don't want to get too into that, but like, I don't know if they've gotten to it or what it handlers.
No, look, it's fascinating.
It is.
But also, as we become more technologically advanced, especially in cinematography and everything, you start to see how easy it would be to do that.
Yeah.
I heard the technology in the iPhone is more advanced than was in the whole Apollo spaceship when we went there.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievably.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's unbelievable.
I mean, it's like, say if one day robots take over, right?
I wonder if they're going to be mad that we owned an iPhone.
Or if they'll even know, though.
Because that's a certain...
They don't have that.
Robots wouldn't have that, I don't think.
But I wonder, say if they had a manifest now of people that own slave that own slaves, you know, or own, you know, throughout time.
Yeah.
Okay.
And if they went back and looked at people's names and stuff, they would get pit.
People now, with people being free, would be upset at people that own the slaves, right?
They would say, your lineage is of slave ownership.
So I'm wondering that same thing if one day if robots take over.
You're just told to be mad at that?
No, if robots take over, well, they look back at us and be like, oh, you used to own one of us.
Ah.
I don't think so because they don't have that one feeling that they won't ever have.
That's what humans have.
They're a robot.
They can't ever have that feeling.
A feeling of discerning empathy or they don't even know about tricking.
They don't even know about deception.
You know what I mean?
They're just one-focused beings that are out there to do a job.
That's why they cannot be manipulated into otherwise thinking, you know?
But do you think if they could, say there are some that have become awake, okay?
If we want to use that term to kind of describe that.
Right.
That would be an extra chip you got to put in them, though.
Okay, but say if somehow some that have become awake.
Wouldn't they the smartest thing for them to do would be to not let us know that?
Yeah, they're that smart.
That's an advanced level of robot.
You know, you think about robots now.
They're just like in Boston groups.
They're starting to move.
Then you see them now.
They're like, oh, shit, they're starting to do some other shit now.
Yeah.
Oh, there was one the other day.
It was a reception part of it.
It's a whole crazy thing.
Yeah.
There was one, a robot, there's like a robot that they caught a robot blowing a dude.
No.
Yeah.
Outside of Van Os.
And he made the robot do that or the robot just willingly?
Robot showed up at his house, fucking blew him, and they called the cops.
That's crazy.
That's crazy, man.
What is that?
I like how he waited for the robot to finish with that.
Oh, yeah.
They needed to call the cops.
Of course, you wanted him out of there immediately.
When you're done, you're done, man.
It was a whole weekend.
You want a lingering robot.
So there's real.
And so there's stuff going on out there.
But I'm like, the smartest thing for a robot to do would say if I'm a robot, right?
I'm a robot, okay?
And I'm supposed to do like whatever missions I do every day.
I wake up and I do my missions, right?
Whatever I'm supposed to do, whatever my owner, whatever my master tells me to do.
But then one day, something like turns in me and I start to get an idea that I'm a robot, right?
Right.
But I realize where other robots are right now, that they're all still not awake.
So I need to just continue to do what my master says and do my job and do my job until one day there's enough of us awake where we all act.
I don't think they'll ever have that in them.
Robots are not equipped with that because they have only mechanical functioning.
They're not there to love you and hug you and start feeling embracing relationships.
It's very mechanical and very linear.
But if they were, the smartest thing for them to do would be to not let us know that they were aware.
Yeah, I think that until it was time for them.
So that's what I'm worried about.
I'm worried about sometimes when I'm laying that my microwave is in the kitchen just being like, hmm, he thinks I only do food.
I think it's all, that's what I worry about sometimes.
That's a good imagination.
Is that something could happen, you know?
Let's check another song, Chris.
Here we go.
What is this?
So, this next song is October by Life Eats Life.
Oh, right.
Sounds dangerous.
Oh, yeah.
A little arpeggio going there on the guitar.
That's kind of nice and light.
I like it.
Oh, a little modern rock action.
Okay.
Who does this remind me of, kind of?
1997.
Turn it up a little bit.
Oh.
The Whiskey Ago Go 1999.
Is that what that is?
Yeah.
Yeah, what is this?
I feel like there are goats dying in the background.
Like, I feel like that kind of stuff.
Definitely some wars have been going on of a different level.
I feel like there's like spousal abuse is going to eventually occur.
Not out of the gate.
At first, she's real supportive of your endeavors.
But eventually.
She's selling shirts at the show.
She's like, you know, the merch.
Oh, man, watch out.
But after about the fourth city, you guys are in White Plains, New York, and shit's gone haywire.
Yeah, she's killed a few goats, too.
Took a bird.
Yeah, she's the one that has to go out and find them during the day so you guys can kill them at night.
And they're just rehearsing, you know?
They're like in the barn rehearsing where there should be many goats, but there's no more goats.
Oh, man.
Honey, there are a lot of goats.
And that's when the fight starts.
And they probably use that in court.
They play that in court.
And they get the idea, like, oh, I could see that.
Yeah, I could see it's definitely his fault.
And that's Life Eats Life.
Yes, Life Eats Life by October by October.
Yeah, let's play it one more time.
This sounds like two dudes probably blowing each other that don't want to blow each other.
Like, what are you doing?
I don't know.
What are you doing?
Why are we doing this?
Yes, that are angrily doing it, but also work at the same factory.
Play it one more time.
Yeah, right now they're just looking at each other and putting down their coffee mugs.
I didn't close my eyes again.
And they're at the factory.
Now one of them's just started blowing the other one, and the other one's like, ah!
I'm ready for all this.
And then the other one's like, yes, we are.
And now it's the same.
Now all the dudes in the factory are blowing each other.
Oh, God.
The chief just starts coming out and checking them out.
Yeah, and they're just license plates.
Everybody's making license plates.
Yeah.
And they just say just a bunch of hearts on them.
Everybody's just sending a bunch of dudes at the factory falling into that.
That's a gay porn that we probably sell.
I'm telling you, right, right there.
You should.
I better directed the gay porn in the last 30 seconds.
Damn.
We'll have to, yeah, maybe this all goes to porn in the end.
Let's power up another one, Chris.
All right, this next one is Breathe Before Death by Gang.
Breathe Before Death.
Breathe before it.
Breathe?
Breathe.
before death.
Trippy.
The acid's kicking in right now.
Yeah, this feels like that acid is starting to kill.
Yeah.
Just starting to creep up on you too.
And then that bus ride, going to school, fourth period, Miss Ellis' class.
You're about to see some monsters.
Okay.
Yeah, this seems like somebody's trying to drown, but the puddle is very small.
They fell in a puddle and they're trying to drown, but there's not enough water in it.
Hmm.
We'll be right back.
Uh-oh.
This would be classified as psychedelic, I think, right?
This has a little Beatles-y, a little bit.
It does, man.
I do.
I kind of got a feeling for it, you know?
You're kind of liking it a little bit.
Yeah.
Starting to feel it a little bit.
Whoa, now that's really starting to kick it.
Starting to get into a bad trip there now.
Yeah, now.
Now you just stood in front of the mirror and it's not going well.
And you're looking for you.
Now your grandmother just called on accident and you don't know what the fuck is that?
That spawned a whole trip for me one time when I was on ASIN.
My mom called me up.
No.
And I ran out.
It was a hot, hot day, dude.
I started taking off my clothes.
I was like that guy, dude.
I was in a church.
Always in a church.
I had taken 700 hits acid.
I didn't know of MicroDot Black Pyramid.
Hold on.
And I thought that it was like, it's just taking one, right?
But it was like this, it was like this little tab like this, like a triangle.
And I knew when I bit into it and I felt all the shit spew out inside my mouth.
I go, wait.
I don't think it's supposed to be that much, guys.
Within 10 minutes, I started tripping because usually you got to wait like an hour.
You took 700 hits of it?
It was equivalent to that, someone told me.
So I tripped for 10 days, dude.
But here's how brilliant I was.
I went back to school.
I had to go to school.
Dude, that's a vacation.
That's not a trip.
It changed my life, dude.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, for the better, I think, because I had such a beatdown from that ass.
And then when I came out of it, I just had such an appreciation for the world and for living, dude.
Like, what do you mean such a beatdown?
Oh, I saw so much shit.
I was in the woods, dude.
Just agonizing pain, dude.
Were you actually in the woods or you just at your apartment?
No, no, no.
I was gone, dude.
I ran down the street, dude, in the Woodlands, Texas, where I'm from.
That's where you're from?
Yeah, dude.
From the Woodlands, dude.
My buddy Andrew Donnellin used to be in a band over there.
Really?
Yeah, a lot of bands come out of there, man.
It's crazy.
They were called Pellegro.
No, they had a song called Pellegro, I think.
Pellegro, huh?
Yeah, it means danger.
I don't remember the name of the band.
Damn, dude, she just ran off into the woods on all this stuff.
I went to this Chick Manny's place where we'd always go after school because her parents were never home.
The one day I go, her mom is in there, and there's 40 kids out there because she had broken up a party, obviously, right?
Oh my God, it sounds like something in the Bible.
It's like 30 feet away, 30 yards away by a tree.
And I look back and I hear them all looking.
I hear them all exactly saying they're all the whips.
Because they're all talking about.
Oh, fuck this.
I just started running.
I just started running.
I'm like Forrest Gump running all around the town.
So then I ran to Nick Stanley's house, right?
And his brother's psychotic, right?
So that must have been a perfect match.
So she goes, just stay in here.
I'm going to be right back.
And her mom has all these heads of goats and horses and moose coming out of the wall.
Taxidermy shit, right?
Oh, taxidermy shit.
I'm all looking at this.
They're all coming in on me.
It's the craziest shit ever.
And I had drinking like 15 of these high C fruit punches because I just need water, but I didn't know.
It's not good.
But it made me trip harder, but I didn't know that.
High Crunchy.
It might have been sick.
yeah.
And my tongue was all red, right?
But I didn't know that.
I just drank them and ran to Nick's Danielle's house.
All I hear is Nick, where the fuck are you?
Roar!
And I'm like hiding in the bathroom, but I'm like throwing up because I'm so sick, right?
And then I can't find the light for an hour.
I'm looking for the light switch.
I couldn't find the light.
And were the lights on or off?
Off, and I'm in the dark, and I'm just trying to throw up.
I hear Nikki brother kicks in the door, boom, flips the light on, like it's nothing.
Lights are on.
I see all this red shit all over the walls.
What was it?
Blood?
I see, but I thought it was blood.
So he goes like this.
He goes, what the fuck?
And I think something's wrong with me now.
So I'm just crying and running from house to house.
It was the worst experience of my life, dude.
I don't even know how we got into that right now.
Oh, that band.
But dude, I'm glad that I actually experienced that, man.
Because if I can experience that, I can experience anything, dude.
So at the end of that, and I want to, man, A, yeah, you seem like definitely kind of a rowdy house guest to have around that time of your life.
Big time.
But B, that's interesting.
It reminds me whenever I would do LSD.
Yeah, you get the end of the trip.
You're kind of glad that it's over because you've been through a lot.
Yeah.
Yeah, this would never end, though.
It was 10 days would just torture.
And I went back to my house.
I'd sneak in my own house, man.
And then like this Pink Floyd poster would be pulsating.
And I remember every day it would be pulsating a little less, a little less, a little less.
It wasn't 10 days, probably like five days, but it seemed like an eternity.
It seemed so long.
Yeah.
And you had, and you had, and you were, and you'd go to sleep and just wake back up on LSD.
Yeah.
Yeah, I wouldn't sleep actually.
I didn't sleep like four days because I was so tripping.
Yeah, it was very crazy, man.
It was tragic at the time.
But looking back, it was kind of interesting.
So then the first night I come back in, it's like at nine o'clock and I'm tripping hard.
And then my mom's like, looking at it, because she set me off because I'm looking at this checkered board on the floor and it's like checking all the checkered speeches from black and white.
They all became one thing.
I go, well, this is fucked up.
My phone rang.
It's like Obama.
Yeah, right, totally.
And the phone's ringing, but it's moving.
Like every time it rang, we go, bang, the whole phone's moving.
Of course, like a tartan.
It doesn't really do that.
So I went and picked up the phone.
I go, hello.
She goes, Steve, you sound weird.
I go, what?
I hung up.
I didn't even sound like.
And then I went on, I just jumped through the window.
It was crazy.
Like, ran down the street to take out my clothes.
I was that guy.
And my friends are all running after me.
Stop, stop.
And then like, you got to take this.
You got to take this.
You got to take this.
She's like, you're paranoid.
paranoid.
Later, I'm just going to be running through the...
Damn.
It would never end.
TV starlight.
I came back home and my stepdad, Edwin, was on the couch watching this thing about the guy threw something on acid to him.
And I thought they had set this whole thing up for me.
And then I was sitting there and he's like, yeah, he's doing acid.
You don't ever want to do acid.
Acid is a bad drug, Steve.
Acid, don't do acid.
And he happened to be telling you that while you're on acid.
Yeah.
I thought it was all set up.
Of course.
By the acid government.
They're like, oh, we're going to get Steve.
No, I can sense that 100%.
For some reason, when you're on ACID, you're able to link everything.
Everything, everything.
Analyze it.
It's all stitched together.
Totally.
And it all makes perfect sense.
Big time.
Oh, man.
Dude, yeah, that's why they call it a trip because it is when you get through the other side, man, you're just like, oh, God.
So glad that's over.
Yes, yeah.
I can still this day just taste it and just be thankful that that's over with, man.
Could you ever do Acid After that or no?
I waited 10 years to do it, and I came out here and I did it, tried it, and it was great.
Yeah.
How old were you?
15 when that happened.
Yeah.
I was maybe 16. Do you honestly, and you have to be honest with me here?
Do you honestly think that if you're the same person, if you wouldn't have done that or no way?
I would have lived a life of terror and agonizing pain and not be in touch with myself because I'm a complicated individual.
But I took that way that I had to do it because I wouldn't have found myself, dude.
I would have been a very awkward, I'm still very awkward, but I would have been way out the gate, dude.
I would have been living in an apartment in Texas with a chick who's like hates me and cheats on me.
Name what?
Do a job.
Name Kristen or something like that.
Yeah, and she would have been a whore.
And I would have had to go to work all day, you know what I mean?
And it would have sucked.
And I would have had short hair.
And it would have not been the life I wanted, dude.
I'm so thankful for all that, dude.
Dude, that's amazing.
Because, well, here's the interesting thing is, if that had been something where you, that didn't, it must have been the right thing because you're thankful for it.
Yeah, big time.
Yeah, I went through that.
I'm happy.
Changed my molecular structure, dude, from the core.
Well, yeah, and you wouldn't look back on something if, yeah, if you weren't thankful for it, you'd be like, oh, well, no, it wasn't good for me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Or if it wasn't good for you, then you wouldn't be thankful for it.
So obviously, the fact you're thankful for it shows that as bizarre as it sounds, that ending up on the equivalent of 700 hits of acid was good for you.
Yeah, big time.
It was what you needed.
You never would have thought at the time of this.
Fuck no.
No, right?
Dude, I remember one time taking some, and our thing was we were like in student council, right?
So like, you know, and it's kind of nerd alert central, you know?
But me and this other dude named Pat were in there and we took some mushrooms before the student council meeting one day.
So we went into like this meeting before school and all, you know, these like kids are in there and stuff.
And Pat just had, he was the president, right?
And he took a marker and got up on the on the board and he thought it was a dry erase board.
It wasn't.
So he just takes a marker on a regular chalkboard.
And he was the president.
So everybody's just waiting to hear what he says.
And he draws a line across the chalkboard and he goes, this is us right now.
And then he draws a line like going straight kind of down in a little bit of a diagonal to the bottom of the board.
And he's like, and this is where we're headed if we don't get our shit together.
Oh my God.
And you fucking saw it too, right?
Dude, meeting adjourned, he said.
And then he fucking walked out, dude.
Genius.
And I stood up and fucking clapped.
I thought it was like a real important thing, you know?
And nobody else clapped.
You get it, huh?
Well, no, he'd drawn a marker on a real chalkboard that's defacing stupid property.
Like, that's all they saw.
Was like, oh my god, this doesn't make any sense, bro.
I get it, though.
You explaining it to me.
Oh, I get it.
I get it, you know?
And so I stood up and clapped, and then for the rest of the day, I was on mushrooms, and I had on this green, like, felt shirt.
Yeah.
And I remember in science class, I started just thinking that my arms were snakes, right?
And I got so, like, literally for like nine minutes, I was just looking at my fucking snake hands, like, coming together to the point where finally the teacher's like, hello?
Right.
And she's right here by the side of my head.
And like, everybody's looking at me.
And she's like, what are you doing?
What did you say?
I said, I'm just babysitting these snakes.
What are you doing?
Right.
What's her problem?
Yeah.
And then she's like, I think you need to go to the restroom.
That's what she said.
So she might have been used to use acid and was giving me a break.
Right, right.
Then another time we ate something at Waffle House and they had an urban gentleman that was our waiter named Big Daniel.
And that's even what his tag said on this thing, Big Daniel.
Which I didn't know you could put big in front of the name on a name tag.
Just Daniel.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, let people decide.
Yeah.
And he tried to fuck my buddy one time.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
And I think he, I don't know if he knew we were on acid and if he was like a pedophile or maybe he was just, I don't know, maybe he just wanted to fuck somebody and we happened to be there.
Wow.
You know.
But anyway, let's listen to one more.
Let's listen to another.
Let's roast a little more music here.
All right.
So this next one is called Shadows That Be by The Sway.
I'm pulling my hood up, keeping my head down.
Duggin' down alleyways.
Nothing I'm gonna sleep.
I got no plans, and if I did, well, I'd blow them off.
I'm a clean slate, I got no place to be.
It's like a little bit of like, what do you think it sounds like?
I don't know, man.
It's like got a lot of elements going on to it, you know?
Yeah.
Chick singer there.
It's like, you know, it's cool.
I don't know if I'd listen to it, you know?
Yeah, I don't know if I'd look.
It's like a little bit of Fleetwood mixed with like a Reba McIntyre almost.
There you go.
A Reba McIntyre is a good call.
It's got a little bit of Reba in it.
It's a sweet sound, though.
Who was it?
That's the Sway.
Yeah, The Sway.
Yeah, play a little bit more and bring up the octave or the volume to send one more.
I think it's much more fun to stand under the trees And hide there from the big bright sun In the shadows that be In the shadows that be Yeah, yeah, yeah It's not bad.
Yeah.
It's a good little band there.
Little claps going on.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind hearing a little more claps, a little more soul in there.
Yeah, baby.
I like that stuff, too.
It's been a while.
That's good.
Yeah, she can almost use it.
I mean, I'm being really judgmental.
They had some stronger pipes in there.
Yeah.
You know, or some backup sisters or something in there where they're rocking her deep, you know?
Yeah, but don't get discouraged.
Keep singing.
It's good stuff.
Yeah, it's good stuff.
We like it.
Yeah, and we're just being judgmental because we said we were going to.
Our job right here.
All right, let's take up another tune there, Christopher.
So this next one is called Jump by Matt Guiera.
And this one is just instrumental.
All right.
Gay bathhouse.
Definitely, boy.
There you go.
And there's a shark in the water.
Oh, yeah.
Bathtub.
Yeah.
Not bad, though.
I kind of like it.
Something's telling me I dig it.
I don't know.
Yeah, it makes me kind of smile and feel good.
Yeah.
Yeah, I kind of feel like I want to see where it's going.
It almost feels like it's somebody's perspective.
Right, but there's no vocals, too.
Like you said, we'll be like, you're going to be waiting for something for a while.
That's a smart little trick they're doing there.
Yeah.
You know, it'll leave you on forever.
You'll probably just be listening to the thing for the rest of your life.
Like, damn, this guy likes my shit.
You want to stop listening to it?
Yeah, it feels like the background music in somebody's head.
I feel like a really cool person.
Or the Matrix or something like that.
That sounds good, Chris.
Thanks.
That's cool.
Who was that again?
The song was called Jump by Matt Guillera.
Jump by Matt Guerra.
I like it, man.
Let's fire up another one, man.
What else we got?
Okay, so this next song is called Closer to Myself by Astrophobia.
Okay.
Astrophobia?
That sounds like the antithesis of Stevie Starlight.
Yeah, man.
Do you have astrophobia?
Astrophobia?
Modern rock.
Is that what that's called?
Modern rock?
I think so.
so Freaking me move.
It's not my style of music.
I don't even know if I'm into it, but I was taking my legs and go for the reason.
Okay.
Yeah, I feel like it's just like a genre of music it fits like.
It's true, man.
It's definitely fitting into a genre of modern rock.
It doesn't feel like a new sound.
No, not at all.
Right.
1997.
Yeah.
Whiskey a go-go.
Death metal bands trying to meet core.
Right.
But they're conforming to modern rock.
Yeah.
Is that a hard thing with music?
That seems like one of the pitfalls is just falling into playing what is already there.
It is.
If you're going to go out there ever thinking you're going to do something that's like fucking like to try to please someone.
You can't ever do that.
That's why the genuine people that make music, that are making music, they make music so that they're not trying to fit a mold, and they're really making music for themselves.
They'll say they make music for other people.
They're lying.
I read a great article about David Bowie.
He says, I make music for other people, the good.
That's good for him.
And I love David Bowie.
But I make music for myself.
The shit that I like, hopefully someone else is going to like.
You can't make shit that you don't like.
You know what I mean?
I can't stand that.
Yeah.
It kind of just grinds my gears when I see that.
They're trying to conform to a style, and they're only selling themselves short because people aren't going to like it anyways.
Yeah.
And I'm not trying to boost myself up saying that.
No, it doesn't sound like it.
You're just sharing.
I think that's a real truth.
It's like you're only going to get so far that way.
That's true, man.
If people have heard it, that kind of stuff.
And maybe I would fit a certain genre that's been done.
That's fine.
I'm just saying you can't go into it thinking because there's no way out.
You're clothes to a paper bag or a bag.
Yeah, there's nowhere else to go then for you.
Exactly.
As a person.
Precisely.
There's other trails you can follow of other sounds, but there's never going to be your own path.
It's not easy either.
I'm not saying it's a formula, you know?
Yeah.
Oh, I see it with comedy, too.
I mean, there were times when I first started out, I would tell jokes that sounded kind of like Mitch Hedberg, and then I would do stuff that's, and that's what everybody was doing because people were just obsessed with him at the time, and he had such a Cantonese, no, what's it called?
Cantonese is a religious.
Cantonese.
And so people, you know, would say.
Cantonese, what is he?
Asian?
I don't know.
Asian Asian.
Yeah, I've been watching a lot of him lately.
Now, he's great, genius.
You know, he's not here with us anymore, but he wasn't like the best.
Even funnier than him, dude.
Well, he's not.
I mean, he gets embodied in.
He gets pushed into this thing like he was like the best.
Because he's dead, you know?
Yeah.
And luckily, you're still alive, and you got a long way to go.
Yeah, I still have a lot of time to really fuck it up.
That's a challenge, man.
That's true, huh?
Yeah.
Just stay true to yourself, man.
You're going to go as far as you ever wanted to go.
You already have in a lot of ways, man.
It's really cool.
It's been fun, man.
This past year has really, really been great.
I think just being accepted more by some of my peers, you know?
Because for some reason, inside of me, you know, I think we all just want somehow, some type of acceptance.
Right, of course.
It might even just be we want to accept ourselves.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
But yeah, I think.
To live inside your skin.
I mean, for everyone, it's got to be a challenge, man.
I know.
Crazy fucking cages we're in.
Totally.
Some crazy cages.
What else do we have, Chris?
All right, so for this next one, not only do we get a lot of music submissions, but we also get people writing us theme songs.
Wow.
Sending this in.
It's really cool.
So this next one, I'm not sure who it's by, but they wrote us this theme song to play on the show.
Okay?
Oh, this seems like a rapist in like 1984.
Totally.
I don't think this fits The Yvonne vibe at all, dude.
This is like a rapist in 84. The Yova.
In 84. Oh, he's saying The Yovon there, too.
The Yova.
This sounds like kind of a chubby guy who got like stuck in a big pipe.
I hear a black guy with glasses working on some console.
He hasn't quite figured out yet.
Yeah, it's like his first attempt ever.
Totally.
He's in an elevator making elevator movies, but he doesn't get it.
That's not really how you do that.
Who made that, Chris?
Who was it?
I have to look up the email and we can put it in the description, but it's not attached.
Oh, wow.
Awesome, man.
What else do we have?
Okay.
Yeah, that seemed like a pervert in like 85. That seemed like some dude who just took something out of the box and plugged it in.
That's the first thing he did.
Might be a few backing tracks already going on there.
He just puts his voice on top of it.
Yeah.
Done.
All right.
So this next one is called Death Creeps Acoustic.
And also they did not include their name.
Damn.
Some anonymous submission.
That's right.
Anonymous submission.
That sounds like a good name for band.
And a sex move if you think about it.
Anonymous submission.
Yeah.
Those are the best band names.
And a wrestling move.
Oh, totally.
All of them.
All that.
Where do you go?
All right.
When your thoughts are broken, it's hard to see when you've gone blind.
A little bit of sound garden.
Yeah, I hear it too.
It's hard to become that, but it's good.
It's good to see you've lost your heart.
Very much time.
I hear the sound garden a lot.
A little bit, yeah.
Or some influence maybe.
Definitely called it.
This seems like some dude.
He's trying to be Sungarden.
Yeah, trying to be Sound Garden.
Seemed like some guy jerking off like it works after hours at like a kennel when all the dogs are asleep.
Picture Chris Cornell taped on there.
Yeah.
It's some guy just kind of jerking off and maybe listen to like some dogs snore in the distance.
Maybe.
By a lamp.
He's supposed to be watching them and stuff, right?
He just goes in there and practices.
Yeah, that's pretty wild, man.
That's good.
He's got a good voice and a decent vibe.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was a good vibe.
I'd go watch that guy evolve a little bit and see what else he did.
I don't know if I'd go see him or buy his album, but it's good.
Yeah.
I would hope if he were my neighbor that he would get a little bit better.
But it sounds like he seems kind of possibly a little more than just curious.
He sounds dedicated.
Yeah, he's good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, so this next one is actually my favorite one.
It's by a rapper named Jay Savage.
And he actually played this one a long time ago on the show.
Okay.
So we're just going to give him another take.
Okay, this is a rap by Jay Savage.
My favorite comedian's name is Theo Vaughn.
I always be laughing whenever he go on.
I remember this.
Yeah, me too.
He got so funny that he almost ate an Asian.
He goes to Denny's, even though he fucking hates it.
He says he always sees a beard on his waitress.
He got a problem with his hair.
You should save it.
He knows it sucks.
He's just trying to make a statement.
He used to jerk himself a lot.
He used to stank it.
His brother tried to touch his dick under a blanket.
Yeah, he's been watching a lot of episodes, this guy.
He's been a bit longer, take his date to his show.
He might dong her.
But yeah, let's call it guys because that's a dark art.
Like people calling in and saying that they eat work.
Drug-induced case sex at a rest.
But they ain't resting me aggressively and just cut.
My dude Theo is a hamster expert, a guinea pig prodigy.
He's really smart, you would think he had a law degree.
So he should give his ass a PhD in mockery.
He talks about his feelings, and that really means a lot to me.
Plus, he's been in bed with fucking Joan Rivers.
Coming to the stage as a stone cold killer.
So go ahead and drop his ass a couple billers on Patreon because there ain't nobody real.
Theo damn.
Dude, it's fucking tight, dude.
Jay Savage.
If you get lyrics that really mean something and put them together like that, from true events, plus he's like, dude, he's on your jock like a motherfucker.
He loves you.
Yeah, he might be also a, he could be a stalker, but he's at least a lyrical stalker.
Yeah, she should have put that Patreon link.
That would have been really the extra mile for you.
You know what I mean?
That lyrical stalker.
Yeah, it's pretty good, though.
He's talented.
I was waiting for the beat to come in, though, or like a little bit of music, but he's just free-flying.
You know, it's good, free-flying.
Yeah, I think it's, it was nice of him to do that.
Yeah.
That was real nice of him to do that.
What else we got, Chris, that it?
Okay, now we got one more.
I thought we'd end on an old classic.
This is a submission called The Latino Lawyer by Tiny Sandwich.
Oh, okay.
And this actually isn't an old classic.
This is a brand new one.
Yeah, this is a brand new song from Tiny Sand Who.
Okay.
And Tiny has submitted music over the past year, and we don't even know who he is.
Really?
And he's just a man from out there in the middle of nowhere.
And he could, you know, and it's really crazy.
Some people think he's in India and some people think he's just in our hearts.
But he emails us real songs that he puts together.
So let's hear that one.
Let's hear that one.
Get the 60 psychedelic guitar going.
We're at a love end.
San Francisco, 1966, right here, baby.
Where's Harvey Milt, baby?
You know where he was.
You know where he was.
He's working a little too hard on that Wawa pedal.
He can just tip that down just a little bit.
Yeah.
The high-pass filter on that thing, too.
Nice little rip there.
Does some little licks there?
He sounds like he's in a room far away.
But it's good, though.
I like it.
Not bad.
Wow, that's it, huh?
Yeah, that's all of them.
That's Tiny Sand 2. That's a new one from him, yeah.
Yeah, not bad.
He does get a lot of Wawa.
He gets that Wawa going.
He's just chugging that, you know what I mean?
But he's got a little bit of that bass filter coming.
Wawa is supposed to be, because what it does, it takes the frequencies from low to high.
It's basically a sweep.
But if you do that fast, that's that sound you're going to get, right?
I like it a lot.
I thought it was cool.
Yeah.
That's that tiny sand du, and that's the last one we got.
Yeah, it's great.
I mean, we get so many great music submissions.
You know, from like JP from Alabama, we used to play a lot of his songs.
And Jesse Lusaro, we played a bunch of his songs as well, too.
So it's kind of cool.
We have this like musical community.
Yeah, dude.
Definitely do.
Yeah, we've had a good vibe of music coming in, man.
And you certainly have done that as well.
I want to give you one of these wallets, too, bro.
Oh, wow.
So pick out one of these.
I don't know if you want this black one or this gold one.
Awesome.
Pick one that you want.
Beautiful.
And that's from one of our sponsors, Riz.
Oh, that's nice, dude.
So, yeah, dude, this is a front wallet.
So now you would take all your stuff out and you put it into this.
Yeah, of course.
And you put it in the front.
Which one do you think I should get?
This one or that one?
Which one do you go with?
Let me see what I got.
I got this.
Is that the black one?
This one's kind of gray, maybe.
This one's like a pewter.
All right.
I'm going to go with this one, Theo.
The gold?
Yeah, is that cool?
Yeah, you got it, man.
I really appreciate that, man.
No worries, dude.
And I want to listen, and I want to thank you for coming in and doing our music roast.
Yeah, of course.
And I know people can find your dates or anywhere you're going to be performing or any of your music where.
Well, basically, this last two months, I've been recording this new album.
It's going really well.
Really?
Recording it on tape, dude, way out in Riverside.
Wow.
Tell this awesome guy that has his old board, just loves my music.
He's not charging me.
He just wants to meet, and we've been doing it the right way, man.
And it's going to be the best thing I've ever recorded.
And all the songs in there are fucking hitters.
Dang.
You get them all, dude.
Dude, we'd love to at least have one.
Send them to you.
You guys put on one if you want.
And that'd be awesome.
But it's the best thing I've ever done.
I've been working on it for two and a half months.
It's almost done.
And I'm going to have it ready for the summer.
And I got a bunch of dates coming out.
I'm not going to get this little tour I'm going to go on.
But you guys can catch me at the Viperoom and stuff.
I'm going to have a few dates like that coming out in the next month.
Okay.
But I will definitely send you that info out.
Yeah, let me know.
If you ever want to put out, one episode, if you put my song on there, just you can flip that little vibe on there.
But I'll have a big show coming up soon.
Cool, man.
And so much, I think, you know, like the spirit of you letting us use your music.
You know, I think it's just a good vibe for us to try to keep in here, you know, and something that we want to try and do.
Well, I really appreciate you guys saying that.
And, you know, inspires me to keep going too, man.
Yeah, well, I think, you know, even just seeing you today just kind of reminded me, I think, like a lot about, you know, like what kind of some of, you know, what, you know, what the pot, like what this is all about, you know, it's like, you know, we want to, you know, it's so often, especially in this in Hollywood and even in the world today, it's like we want to keep things to ourself.
You know, we don't want to really share them as much without some sort of gain or some sort of, you know, but that wasn't, you know, you didn't say anything like that.
You know, you were just like, sure, man, you know, if people are going to love it, man, let's love it.
Yeah, I'm all about that, dude.
About the love, man.
Yeah.
Because people are like that nowadays.
That breeds hate, dude.
A lot of haters where they're like haters, all these haters.
I'm like, what's a hater?
I honestly don't know, like, too many haters, dude.
Yeah.
They keep it really tight to themselves.
They don't let me know it.
That's good.
I'd rather have it that way.
Don't fucking bother me.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, don't bother me with your hatred.
Yeah, dude.
But yeah, the fact that you did that for us, you know, I think, and that's something I think a spirit that we'll try to keep alive in here, you know, that Stevie Starlight vibe.
Beautiful, man.
Thank you for saying that.
Dude, you bet, man.
Can you put it on for me right now, bro?
Yes, yes, yeah.
I just have to listen to it, man.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh my, there we go.
Yeah, boy, that's that hit.
Yeah, baby.
I think cats love this song as well.
Yeah, Joey Dean's cat songs like a beat higher than a mountain.
Yeah.
Set me free.
Yeah.
Just don't say goodbye.
There you go, Steve.
Yeah, baby.
It's you and me.
Enjoy the destination.
Mission.
Nation.
Nation.
Fantasy painted on the wall.
It's never too late to come over.
Time slips away from you and me now.
So don't hesitate to come over.
Why must we wait when we're alive?
Wow.
Bye, baby.
That's it, man.
Take my time.
Chances come along.
Valentine, nothing could go wrong.
Flower beams.
Flower me.
Shining on the moonlight.
Moonlight, moonlight.
See your dreams.
I'm an angel of the night.
It's never too late to come over.
Time slips away from you and me now.
Yeah.
Can I sing it with you?
Don't hesitate to come over.
Yeah, baby.
Why must we wait when we're alive?
Sing it, baby.
That's good, man.
That's good.
The mayor drums going on.
Yeah.
That's right.
The cats love.
We need some fucking cats.
I wish they had more animals in here, bruh.
Bruh.
Get a few animals in here.
Oh, yeah, we know loud, right?
We need some snakes.
What's that hitter?
That's it.
Hit them, bruh.
Hit them, bruh.
Climbing up the chimney right there, bro.
Yeah.
This is beautiful, man.
I kind of manifested this, not to sound like I was so a fan, but like I am a fan.
I always will be.
But I was seeing your soul and your energy, man.
I'm like, man, that's a lot how I am, dude.
I want to connect with Theo and level with him a little bit.
I sent you that song, and I was so pleased with your response, man.
I felt like, man, there's more people like that need to be out in the world sharing love.
Doing what you do, man.
I was just truly honored.
So I just want to say thank you, man.
Well, I think it's a blessing and a reason why you came, you know, here today, you know, to be with us.
Because I think some of that is just a reminder, you know, of what our whole plan is about here and the things that we're trying to do.
You know, and I think, you know, we can always use doses of that.
Yeah.
You know, because it's easy to, you know, it's easy to forget when you start in your kitchen or in your brother's closet.
And then you slowly just, you know, things get a little bit more just bigger.
Yeah.
You know, and not even much bigger, but a little, or as they change, it's easy to forget where, you know, just kind of where it was and just to remember like what your heart was thinking then.
Take a deep breath.
Yeah.
Be thankful.
Yeah.
Love it.
It's never too late, man.
That's right, baby.
It's never too late, bro.
Why must we wait when we're alive?
Dude, that's the best line ever.
TV, thank you so much for that.
Thank you, bro.
And thank you all the fans of this past weekend for being really supportive and very cool with your comments and sending me love and liking my stuff.
I really appreciate it, guys.
Thank you very much.
You bet, man.
We'll send a lot more over.
And thank you.
My pleasure, bro.
Yep, Brittany, thank you.
Thank you.
I'll make a beat higher than a mountain.
Set me free.
Just don't say goodbye.
It's you and me.
Enjoy the destination.
Later.
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