March 22, 2026 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Radio Show Hour 2 – 2026/03/21
James Edwards and Tony Miranda dissect Puerto Rico's political status, contrasting Governor Jennifer González's Republican stance with the island's overwhelming Democratic voting record on the mainland. They analyze how racial classification differences between the U.S. "one-drop rule" and Latin America's color continuum drive middle-class aspirations toward whiteness, linking this to Spanish colonization strategies that created complex caste systems. The conversation further explores the historical impact of Hernán Cortés's conquest and concludes by suggesting that cultural identity in Puerto Rico remains deeply entangled with colonial legacies and evolving census definitions. [Automatically generated summary]
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Welcome back, everybody.
We just had our first hour tonight in our march around the world now advancing into its last full measure.
The third week of four.
We got one more week to go.
But we kicked off tonight's show in Germany, where Sasha Rossmuller was joining us live from Bavaria.
Now we are heading down to the island nation of Puerto Rico, and it's going to be a rollicking good hour with our special guest, Tony Miranda.
Now, Tony really, in some ways, and I will tell you this, stole the show last year during our march around the world.
He made such an impact on me that I called him this week and I said, Tony, you know, we did 30 minutes with you last year.
Let's do an hour this time because we need to talk about first contact, you know, the age of exploration, history, culture, sex, the caste system of Latin America, even geography itself.
It's all going to intersect this hour when this avid TPC calls in from the island.
Tony, how are you doing tonight?
And it looks like it's 79-degree weather in San Juan tonight.
It's always island time in Puerto Rico, though.
How are you doing tonight, my friend?
I'm doing great, and thank you for having me.
I'm flattered that you would have me back.
Many, many thanks, sir.
Yeah, it's about 79 degrees.
The high today was 87.
The low tonight will be about 74.
This is what you need to know about the weather in Puerto Rico.
It's hot or hotter, okay?
From December to March, you have a dry season.
So it doesn't rain nearly as much.
And then from April to November is the wet season.
So it rains a little bit every day.
Every afternoon, it's going to rain some.
A little bit cooler in the mountains.
When we say mountains, we're only talking about 4,000 feet.
You don't have mountains like Colorado, that sort of thing, but it's hot.
More hot in the Appalachians.
More like the Appalachians, yes.
All right.
Well, let's get down to it then.
Weather now having been established.
Let's talk about the current scene.
I want to spend just one segment on this, so we'll move briskly.
And then I want to talk more about history and how all of Latin America came to be as it is now.
And of course, colonization and the Spanish conquest features heavily in that.
But let's talk about the current scene in Puerto Rico.
What are the top political issues on the island right now?
Well, the issue, issue, issue, the main issue, a lot of issues, but the main one is whether to keep the current Commonwealth status, which was established in 1946.
Puerto Rico is a self-governing U.S. territory.
Puerto Rico controls its own internal affairs, does not control foreign relations.
They get some federal benefits, do not pay federal income tax.
We'll talk about that a little bit later.
But the main issue is statehood versus Commonwealth versus independence.
The new Progressive Party, which is affiliated with the Republican Party in the States, is they tend to be pro-statehood.
The governor is Jennifer Gonzalez, and Jennifer is a Republican.
She was formerly the resident commissioner of Puerto Rico.
The resident commissioner is the non-voting delegate in Congress.
Anyway, Jennifer is a Republican, and there is a man named Pablo Hernandez, which is the resident commissioner.
That is the non-voting delegate in the House of Representatives.
They vote in committee.
They do not vote on the floor.
And then there is a Puerto Rican Independence Party, which is, well, they draw roughly about 5% of the vote.
Very, I know some of those people, very intellectual people.
They stress losing Puerto Rican culture.
They want to be an independent nation.
The difference between the new progressives and the popular Democrats, again, the new progressives are affiliated with the Republicans.
They draw in the 40s.
The popular Democrats draw in the 40s.
And power will shift between those two main parties in the territorial legislature, the congressman, congressperson they elect, or the governor.
The Puerto Rican Independence Party, like I said, they draw about 5%.
And again, the main issue, main issue surpasses all others is whether to keep the current status, statehood, or independence.
Well, if Puerto Rico were to become a state, would they be a vote Democrat or Republican in presidential election?
No, that's a good question.
You have a strong two-plus party system on the island.
But when Puerto Ricans go to the mainland, most of them are in New York.
Many Puerto Ricans are in Florida.
They vote Democrat nine to one.
And that's interesting.
Like I said, on the island, you have two plus parties.
Nine to one.
Definitely.
If it's a state, that's definitely plus two Democratic senators.
And that's wildly different than Cubans.
And we'll get to that in a moment.
But that's interesting.
Let me ask you that.
I'm going to ask you the all-in-one because I want to go back way back to 1519 and first contact in Central America.
And then we'll paint the full picture.
But let's talk about it.
I'm going to ask you all this at once.
You can take it any way you want.
The difference between a territory and a state.
What is Puerto Rico getting from the United States?
And what does Puerto Rico offer the United States in return?
And again, the status of the independence movement.
Okay, well, the independence movement draws about 5% in territorial elections.
You mentioned 1519.
That is when Hernán Cortez landed in Cozumel and they conquered, actually landed in 1516, landed in Cozumel.
They burned their ships.
And by 1519, they conquered the Aztecs.
300 men, horses, and guns.
That's not enough to overthrow a large empire, but the other Indians got tired of having their hearts cut out and being thrown down the stairs of their temple, okay?
What are they, a territory, I mean, Puerto Rico and Cuba, and the Philippines were the last big Spanish colonies, okay?
After the War of 1898, it was a 118-day war.
Puerto Rico became a territory of the United States along with the Philippines.
Cuba became a protectorate, and the naval base was established at Guantanamo Bay in 1902.
But Puerto Ricans, what do they get from the U.S.?
Well, Puerto Ricans are American citizens.
They come and go to the mainland with no restrictions.
What do they offer?
Well, the only tropical rainforest in the United States is in Puerto Rico.
Puerto Ricans serve disproportionately in the U.S. military.
They do not pay federal income tax.
They get Social Security and Medicaid.
They do not get SSI.
So some benefits they get, some benefits they do not get.
Again, but they do not pay federal income tax.
But again, they do not have voting representation in Congress.
Tony, you know, there's this book that we've mentioned a few weeks ago, The Pinky Eagle, where, you know, the United States could have expanded anywhere it wanted to, you know, at a certain time and perhaps even still today, but they decided not to expand into places like Mexico because there was just too much of a difference between the founding stock and them.
Now, we're going back, you know, obviously decades now, not under the current system.
But I wonder what the United States saw in Puerto Rico to begin with to offer it at least the status of a territory, you know, when all of the other Caribbean islands are not that.
That's a good question.
I looked this book up.
I was not familiar with this book, but it talks about the ceasing of American territorial expansion.
If you remember, in the 1850s, during the debates with the Compromise of 1850, the Kansas-Nebraska Act in 1854, there was talk in the United States of annexing Cuba, actually purchasing Cuba from Spain.
And of course, right before that, the United States had acquired a large part of the southwest from Mexico, the Mexican cession, but it was very sparsely populated.
They did not want to annex Cuba because the people were just very different.
They were very different ethnically.
They were very, there's their system of government, Spanish civil law, language, and so forth.
Puerto Rico, actually, what I think one of the differences in 1898 was strategically, Puerto Rico is a very important place.
There are American military installations there, and it's a very strategic place for the United States military.
In 1917, you may recall the United States purchased the Virgin Islands from Denmark, okay, which is also a very strategic location.
I think that is one of the differences.
Hold on right there, my friend.
Tony, live in Puerto Rico tonight.
We'll go back to the island nation right after this very quick break.
We're going to go all the way back, the 1500s, and then move forward from there back to contemporary issues, which is where we started tonight.
Tony, live from San Juan.
Stay tuned.
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Well, that
was supposed to be.
Bid Me, Shaped Me by The American Breed.
We're going to be, I don't know what happened to the audio on that one, but we're going to be talking about Latin America, the peoples of Latin America, Latin American women and the caste system and all of it.
But first, let's go all the way back, Tony, and thank you for being with us tonight from the first tourist to Cozumel.
Latin America Ethnic Continuum00:10:50
No, no.
Cortez and his man.
Let's go.
Well, even before that, Columbus's second voyage.
We're going to move as quickly as we can here, but let's cover some history.
Columbus's second voyage in 1493, that is when what is now known as Puerto Rico was first seen by European eyes.
And then you move forward to not too terribly long into the future.
As we mentioned, 1519, Cortez lands with that burn the boat's resolve.
And by 1521, you go through first contact with the Aztecs and an empire falls.
Now, the population of the Aztec Empire and of its capital city, Tenochtitlatlan, vary, but the smallest I've seen suggests that at least 200,000 people lived in the capital city of the Aztec Empire.
300 men.
Yes, they had some intangibles, but when you're looking back on champions, people don't say, well, did they get a couple of calls from the refs?
Yes, you had disease.
Yes, you had other rival Indian tribes siding with the Spaniards, but it doesn't change the fact that 300 men toppled an empire in two years.
And that's what started it all with regards to what we now call Latin America.
So, Tony, let me ask you this.
Hispanics, Latinos, they're not monolithic, are they?
Oh, absolutely not.
And that is one thing I think a lot of your listeners would misunderstand.
A number of reasons for that.
Most of the people you run into are going to be Emer Indian, mixed, mestizo mixed.
They will have Spanish blood.
They will have Emer Indian blood, particularly people from Central America, southern Mexico.
They tend to be very dark.
They tend to be more Amerindian than anything else.
If you go to the southern cone of South America, Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, they're much whiter.
Argentina is 90% white, and Uruguay is Spanish, Italian, Croatian, German.
Chile is a little bit less, but they're first world nations, but they're southern European.
It is a southern European culture.
And so Hispanics are not monolithic.
The people you see, you're talking about 20-something, I would say 29 different nations, very different cultures.
The Caribbean are going to be a mix of African, some Amerindian, and Spanish.
The original inhabitants of Puerto Rico were the Taino Indians.
They were absorbed or they died out due to disease.
There is no recognizable, very little.
You don't really run into those, a real Indian person in Puerto Rico.
Very few of those.
Interesting thing, though, that was interesting for me.
In the 2000 census, 80% of Puerto Ricans consider themselves white.
In 2010, 75%.
But in 2020, only 17%.
So I think their wokeness has certainly affected Puerto Rico just like anywhere else in the United States, Western world.
Puerto Rico is a liberal enclave.
Well, he'd say nine to one in the world.
Nine to one in which state.
Why do Puerto Ricans, now, Puerto Rico is not that far from Cuba as far as the crow flies.
Why or is it nine to one Puerto Ricans vote Democrat, whereas Cubans are much more conservative?
Well, Cuba got to experience the communist paradise, okay?
So you go down to Cayochio and Miami, and you will see a lot of Cuban.
I mean, they vote eight to two Republican.
And local elections, congressional elections, president, they're very overwhelmingly conservative.
I would say from Puerto Rico.
Ethnically, they're very similar.
Puerto Rico and Cuba have similar ethnicities.
One difference in Latin America is, you know, in the United States, you had a one-drop rule, you know, that if you had any visible appearance of being black or minority, you were black.
Well, in the Hispanic world, it is more of a continuum.
It is a color continuum.
In the colonial period, the Spanish had 16 words for race and ethnicity.
And you can look that up on Wikipedia describes it pretty well.
Most New World Latins, no matter how white they look, are going to have some mixed blood.
You look at Marco Rubia, we've met, you would guess me a Sicilian, Southern European, you know.
So it just depends.
They would never say it's race.
They would never say that.
But the Spanish people tend to run things.
And the people at the bottom are the Amerindians or blacks or whatever.
The Caribbean, they're blacks.
In Latin America, they're really not.
The Mexico, they were pretty much absorbed.
Costa Rica has some, but it is a continuum.
It is not a one-drop rule, and it's distinguished by culture and language.
Well, I want to get into all of that, and we're going to continue to do this for the remainder of the hour because I am fascinated by this.
As I have told you before, you put me in a room, and if you put the entire wall as a map, I would just be transfixed for the remainder of the day, until I fell asleep.
I love culture.
I love geography.
I love maps.
I love everything we're talking about.
And as you mentioned, there are upwards of 30 different so-called Latin American nations, Hispanic nations, Latino nations.
What is the difference, by the way?
Just give me a five-second answer on this.
This is an ignorant question, I admit, but what's the difference between Hispanics and Latinos?
I mean, in terms of the parlance that they're talking about.
Hispanic is not considered a race by the U.S. government.
It is a culture and language.
I think it's part of political correctness.
I don't like the word Latino, certainly not Latinx.
I'm a Puerto Rican of Spanish descent.
I admire Western culture.
I admire Spanish culture.
I admire the United States greatly.
And I don't like the PC.
I don't like the wokeness.
I don't.
The Spanish world, they are unapologetically Spanish.
There is no multi-culting.
So if you want to move up in the Spanish world, even if you're a darker person, you adopt the Spanish way of doing things.
Well, let's talk about that in the caste systems, because as you were mentioning, there is upwards of 30 different nations that are Latin American, from the Caribbean nations, like yours in Puerto Rico, all the way to Peru on the western side of South America, all the way down to Chile, the southern tip of South America.
There is a diversity there, in a true sense of the word.
But there's also caste systems.
And whereas, you know, interestingly, Tony, whereas a lot of native Europeans, you know, white people from Western nations are embarrassed or feel guilt about their whiteness, Latin Americans almost strive to be more white.
What can you tell us about that?
You look at a Mexican soap opera, and you would think that David Duke is the casting director.
I'm serious.
I'm totally serious.
You're going to see beautiful Spanish-looking women.
And if you are upper class, middle class, and you're ambitious and successful, people tend to marry people lighter than themselves if they're darker.
They've been intermarrying with the Spanish for 500 years.
Alan Walter.
Let me ask you this.
Let me ask you this.
I mean, this is a serious question.
I'll give my DNA results before the end of the hour.
I mean, you know, I'm 100% white, but within that whiteness is majority English, followed by Scottish, followed by, you know, Irish and Welsh, and then, you know, some Scandinavian and trace elements elsewhere.
But what makes a white person?
I mean, if you were an Aztec girl who got pregnant with the conquistadors squire in 1519 and that progeny mates only with whites for the last 500 years, and certainly you wouldn't have to go back that far.
Is that descendant white now?
Certainly it would have to be yes, correct?
I would say so.
Most, and you can look this up.
You mentioned your DNA.
Most white Americans have no minority admixture, okay?
Most Latins, no matter how white they look, are going to have some.
Look at Marco Rubio.
He gives you just a perfect example.
He's probably 90% Spanish, okay?
Let's talk about the ladies, you know, Eva Longoria.
Oh, yeah.
Sophia Vergara, you know, people like that.
They are 90% plus white.
Yes.
You know, I think actually Eva Longoria, the actress, you know, and she's 50 now, but, you know, she was big, you know, 20 years ago when she was in her 20s and 30s.
She actually had her DNA test done on a television show, and it was 90% white.
And, you know, is she white?
You know, let's talk about this when we come back.
Cast systems and different strategies for reproduction that the Spanish use versus the colonizers of the North American continent here in the United States.
We're going to do all that with our friend Tony in Puerto Rico.
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Well, that's for all the Latin American women out there tonight.
We're going to be talking about you this hour.
Let me remind you so far where we have visited during this, our march around the world.
England, Australia, Mexico, Canada, Estonia, Croatia, Brazil, earlier tonight, Germany, and now Puerto Rico with our friend Tony.
And he is a friend indeed.
A quarterly donor.
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And Tony, how many years has it been since you last missed a broadcast of TPZ?
Latin American Women Power Hour00:14:32
At least 15 years.
We're going to call you Tony the Tiger.
Indeed.
What a tiger.
15 years and a quarterly donor for all of that time.
But in calling in tonight, adding to the show with great information.
So let's get back down to it.
Well, even where to begin.
So the different strategy, let's start with this.
The different strategies for reproduction, as we mentioned before the break, and we're going to go all the way with Tony to the wall through the 8 o'clock hour if you're listening live in the central time zone.
But the Spanish conquistadors had a different strategy than the English and the others who settled North America with regards to bringing women versus just mating with the indigenous population.
But that's what gives us the Latin American women that we mentioned, a couple of examples, Eva Longoria, Sophia Vergara.
And they are beautiful.
It's a different kind of beauty, of course, than the people of Estonia.
We talked with Ruben Caleb last week.
And when you're not having that platinum blonde hair, those pale blue eyes, but beautiful nevertheless.
And they, much more so, Tony, than whites in European nations strive to be more white.
What can you tell us about that phenomenon?
Oh, my gosh, that is a good question.
Of course, the English came after the Spanish much, much later.
Of course, Columbus discovered Puerto Rico in 1493 on his second voyage.
It was actually colonized by Ponce de Leon of the Fountain of Youth, Ponce de Leon, looking for it in Florida.
So they had established New Spain very, very early.
Cortez conquered the Aztecs in 1519.
Pizarro conquered the Incas in the 1540s.
So it was very early.
The first permanent English settlement was, of course, Jamestown in 1607.
And by the American Revolution, there were about 3 million American colonists in the United States.
Canada had fewer.
There were 60,000 French Canadians at the time.
But the English brought women with them.
They created settler societies.
The Spanish looking for gold and glory and riches.
And missionaries came to Christianize the Indians, which was a good thing, I think.
Much better religion than cutting people's hearts out like the Aztecs.
But anyway, they just created a different kind of society.
There was some intermarriage, of course, between English Americans and the Indians, particularly if you go to Oklahoma, most people of the Cherokee Nation there in Northeast Oklahoma have white blood.
The Eastern Cherokee don't.
They were much more isolated.
The French intermarried.
There's a group called Matisse, and it's like Mestizo, and that is Indian-French mix.
There's a lot of them, particularly in Manitoba, believe it or not.
In Manitoba, there's some of them in New Brunswick.
But generally, the French and English did not intermarry with the local women.
The Spanish didn't have a lot of women with them, so they intermarried the natives.
And that's where, like I said, the 16 different categories came from.
My understanding was that the Spanish just came over there to make a hat full and come back and live a life of luxury in Spain.
They weren't really intending to stay there long term.
They ended up staying, and they ended up creating all these mission stations, all these cities like San Francisco and San Diego and all these places were originally Spanish missions.
So there you go.
And they did an interesting thing.
You would not know.
I looked this up.
Roman Catholic priests aren't known for their high right of fability.
On the other hand, I mean, I don't, you know, say what you will.
I mean, yes, gold was something that helped grease the wheels.
I mean, we go back every Columbus Day to Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand and how all of that came to be.
And it was a tick of good timing, right, Keith?
Jimmy Jones, that song in the 50s.
But yes, I mean, spreading the gospel was part of it.
I am not going to say that was nothing to do with it or it was a ruse and it was all about the gold.
But nevertheless, because Isabella was certainly a devout Catholic.
So, but anyway, they came and they didn't bring settler women.
They made it with the indigenous population.
And then here we are now.
But what I'm mostly interested in right now is being aspirationally white, whereas a lot of whites are ashamed.
Well, I'll tell you one example, Tony.
And you tell me if this meshes with your experiences or not.
But Jason Kessler was a guest on our march around the world a few years ago because even though he's an American, he was in the midst of a trip that took him.
It was a very interesting itinerary.
It took him from his native Virginia down to Peru and over to Romania.
And I think by the time he joined us to call in about his trip, he was in Romania, but he had talked about in Peru that he, you know, there was just a lot of Peruvian women who were very interested in him.
Let's just put it that way.
So is that something that you see that, or is it certain subsects of Latin, you know, the various Latin American nations that they want to be more white?
I think that's true.
Like I said a few minutes ago, if you're successful, middle class or above and where you're ambitious, you tend to marry someone lighter than yourself.
Like I said, look at a Mexican soap opera.
Let me throw something at you, though, here.
You know, as far as English culture, the English brought civilization to North America.
And Americans should be grateful for that.
The Spanish brought us civilization.
Okay.
When the Europeans came, none of these indigenous groups had a written language.
None of them.
None of them.
That means you don't have a history.
You have oral legend that's passed from generation to generation.
You do not have history.
None of them had the wheel.
None of them.
Some of them more advanced than others.
Again, like we mentioned, the Incas, the Aztecs, and the Mayans, they built compared to the other Indians.
They were much more advanced.
None of them had a written language.
None of them had the wheel.
That was all given to them.
Of course, they didn't have horses, but that's not their fault.
This was given to them by the Spanish.
The Spanish brought us civilization, brought us modern culture and civilization, brought us Christianity, which I think that any Latin person, any Puerto Rican should be grateful for that.
And Puerto Ricans should be grateful that Spain lost the war with the United States in 1898, to be quite honest about it.
It would be the poorest state, but compared to Latin America, it is the highest standard of living in the Caribbean and in Latin America.
So there you go.
And so do I think it will ever be a state?
No, I do not.
I think that the current status will remain.
I don't want to see six Democrat representatives and two Democrat senators in Congress, to be quite honest with you.
I'm sympathetic to the Puerto Rican independence movement.
I do not think that will happen either.
All right, let me ask you this.
While we're talking about that, what is the difference between people groups from the Caribbean to Central America to different parts of South America?
Because, I mean, they're all at once have something in common, but there are degrees of differences.
And a lot of it comes down to the impact of Spanish investment being a determining factor.
How would you differentiate from Puerto Rico to Peru to Chile to Argentina to Uruguay, Paraguay, which are much more white?
What are the differences?
Well, there's a big difference, and I don't want to miss any of those places.
I mean, in the Caribbean, you have an Afro-Caribbean culture.
You have an amalgam of Spanish culture with African culture.
You didn't have that in Mexico, really.
You didn't have that in the rest of Latin America.
If you go to Mexico, the people in the north tend to be more European.
They tend to be taller.
Was it Vincente Fox?
If you look at Vincente Fox, you will see that he was tall and very European looking.
So there you go.
In the south, they tend to be more Amer-Indian.
You mentioned in Peru.
Peru is the Quechua.
We're in Peru.
There are 10 million people in Ecuador and Peru that speak Quechua.
They're the Incas.
They didn't have a written language till Spanish missionaries gave them a written language.
It's written in Roman, just like English or Spanish or anything else.
And they tend to be rural.
They tend to be, they live in the Andes, but they're Amer-Indian.
There are still millions of pure Indians in those countries.
In, let's see, Paraguay.
Paraguay, the second official language is Guaraní, Spanish official language.
Guaraní is the second official language, one of the Indian languages.
So there's some admixture there, but Argentina, there's very little admixture.
Uruguay, there's almost none.
And Chile, if you remember Martin Rojas that wrote for Jared, very good, yes.
He was Chilean.
He spoke beautiful Spanish, believe me.
But he was predominantly European, you know, so it's you would guess him as an Irishman or something.
So it just varies who was there.
You know, like I mentioned a minute ago, the ethnicity of Cuba and Puerto Rico is similar.
It's not quite the same.
Cuba had a, there were some Chinese settlers in Cuba.
You didn't really have that in Puerto Rico, but their ethnicities are similar.
The Dominican Republic is much more African than Puerto Rico.
Like I said, in 2010, 75% of Puerto Ricans consider themselves white.
You might not, most of the listeners of the show probably wouldn't, but there was the desire to be white, to be Spanish, to adapt, you adapt their way of doing things.
There's no multi-cult in that society.
Well, is it common for Latin American women to see a tourist or a visitor from, you know, who is obviously white, you know, from Europe or from the United States and be very interested in him?
Because that's what I have read that in some of these South American countries where the average height.
Now, Tony, I know you.
You're a big guy.
You're six foot plus.
You're a strapping guy.
But when a white man goes to South America, is that somebody that's going to get more interest from the ladies down there than they perhaps would here on the continent?
I think so.
I don't think Jason Tesla's experience is all that different.
And if you're a tourist, they're going to assume that you've got a little bit of money anyway to be able to travel like that.
So, yeah, you're not on skid row if you're touring Peru or anywhere like that or Puerto Rico or anywhere.
So, yeah, they're going to assume, you know, and people are people.
You know, are you nice?
Are you polite?
Are you respectful?
I mean, it's those are fairly conservative societies as far as their moorings are concerned.
All right.
So I'm looking.
I'm looking at my ancestry.com DNA here, and 22% from southeastern England, 17% from northern Wales, 14% from Scotland, 12% from northwestern Germany, 6% from the Netherlands.
It changes every time I log in.
I don't know what's up with that, but 6% from Cornwall, 6% from West Midlands, 6% from Ireland, 4% from another part of Ireland, and 3% North East England.
Anyway, so it's all the British Isles.
But when do you become white, right?
I mean, you know, I got to ask this.
I mean, this is a serious question.
I mean, especially when it comes to Latin America.
You know, so we're 100% white.
I am.
And, you know, there was always these rumors, you know, going back.
Every Southerner knows these rumors.
You know, everybody, you know, great-great-great-great-grandpa married a Cherokee princess, but it just wasn't true.
100% white.
But, you know, down there in Latin America, South America, Central America, wherever, is 90% white enough?
I mean, if you are a guy here who is struggling with feminist women in the United States as a result of all of the cultural forces that have been inflicted upon ladies here in this country for decades now, are you committing racial treason by marrying, you know, going down there and marrying someone who's 90 plus percent white?
I mean, this is a serious issue, a serious question.
I ask you that because at what point do you become white or aspirationally white?
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Part of it's cultural.
I consider myself white, and I really don't need anyone's permission or approval to do that.
I mean, that's just how it is.
My ancestry is predominantly Spanish.
Some West African.
I'm about 20% give or take non-white, West African and Amer-Indian.
I have Arab blood, Moorish blood, because the Moors were in Spain for 700 years until the reconquest around the time of Fernand and Isabella.
And I have some Sephardic Jewish ancestry.
But I consider myself white and Catholic and European.
I don't really need anyone's permission for that.
Well, so that gets us down to it then, Tony.
So, you know, again, the difference between some of the Hollywood bombshells, which are very easy to draw upon, they are 90 plus percent white, although they do come from ancestrally South American nations or Central American nations.
There's a tendency away from that now for sure.
Well, I mean, but let's talk about the stereotypical Guatemalan women.
You know, when you talk about Squattom Islands, you know, there is a portion of the Yucatan which is low-lying, which the Spanish never really invested in because it was prone to flooding.
And you look at it at night from a global satellite and you look at the lights of Central and South America, and then you look at the lights over here.
Well, that's where the Spanish never went and never really invested.
And so you have a very big difference between these short.
I told you this on the phone earlier this week.
I was down in Belize with my wife a few years ago, and you see these short, squatty people, and they look very different than some of the actresses we've mentioned.
But I mean, you don't even have to mention famous Hollywood starlets.
There are no shortage of very beautiful Central and South American and Latin American women.
So what is the difference there?
I mean, the difference is, of course, again, as I put it, the Spanish investment, right?
Well, yeah.
I mean, you know, it's, yeah, I don't know how else to put it.
Like I said, they've been intermarrying with the Spanish for 500 years.
Belize, of course, the English in Belize, it was British Honduras.
And, of course, it's an English-speaking country in Central America, only one there in Central America.
But ethnically, it's similar to Honduras or whatever.
It's not too far from Yucatan.
You can drive from around Cozumel Mel to Belize.
Yeah, it's like 120 miles or something.
Let me ask you this.
This is a change of topic, but we are beginning to run out of time, and I want to be sure to get this in.
In your opinion, I've always wondered this.
I've never asked it.
I don't even know who to ask, but I will ask you, because you're here now, and your opinion would be as good as anybody else's I can imagine.
Why did, you know, we go back, we were talking about the Aztecs, the Mayans, the Incans.
Why did Central and South American Indian groups advance so much further than their North American counterparts who never, you know, matured beyond the hunter-gathering stage?
I mean, they were all developing at the same time.
They were all developing at the same time before white contact.
Why did the Central and South Americans, why were they able to build pyramids while the other ones were building teepees?
That is a good question.
Most of those tribes were in what you would call the new stone age.
They didn't smelt metal.
Like I said, none of them had written languages, not even the Incas or Aztecs or whoever.
That is a good question.
I think part of it is geography.
They were, you know, the Aztecs particularly were brutal.
They were able to conquer the surrounding tribes and they were relatively more advanced.
I'm not an expert on those cultures and civilizations, but yeah, they were relatively interesting.
That's an odd question.
You might be interested to know.
South of the Rio Grande, you're talking about the Spanish intermarrying with the natives.
North of the Rio Grande, I have read it was estimated there were less than a million Amerindians.
And we're talking about the Cherokee and the Sioux and the Iroquois and the Chippewa and all these different groups.
There were less than a million.
South of the Rio Grande, there were around 100 million.
And there were much, there were many more Indians at the time in what became Latin America.
And of course, unless the Spanish brought a lot of women with them, they didn't have a lot of choice.
But yeah, that's a good question.
That's something to look further into.
I know.
I don't know who could answer that question honestly because political correctness is going to raise our hand.
But let me ask you this very quickly because we've got about a minute remaining.
And then Jared Taylor is coming up next.
Tony, you just mentioned his name.
And so he appears.
He will be next.
We were with Sasha Rossmuller in Germany prior to this hour.
And I told you, my friend, we could fill this.
And I still have many rounds left in the chamber that we could have fired tonight.
But I want to ask you this.
The burn the boats resolve that Cortez and his men had in 1519 when they landed on the shores of Central America soon thereafter to topple an empire within two years.
Are you kidding me?
Outnumbered, you know, 300 to hundreds of thousands, but they did it.
But there was another burn the boats resolve, and that took place in Pitcairn Island.
Now, this is not Central or South America.
It's not the Caribbean.
It's not Latin America.
It is in Polynesia.
It's Tahitian.
It's the South Pacific.
But they did the same thing.
It was the descendants of the bounty crew.
Yes, the Mutiny on the Bounty.
As it stands today, there's about 50 people there, and it has a very, you know, a pretty high elevation, but it's thousands of miles from Easter Island or any of the other nearest developed places.
I'm thinking, you know, Tony, our last political cesspool conference last year in South Carolina, if we just took all of those people and became citizens, we could have our ethno state.
What's wrong with that thinking?
In Pitcairn Island, one minute remaining.
We could have got a whole second on this go.
Okay.
Interesting thing with that.
The British didn't like mutiny, so some of those guys ended up going to Pit Carn Island.
They burned their ships.
Some of them went to other places.
The British sent ships to hunt them down.
Some of them were tried and hanged for mutiny.
The descendants of the people on Pit Carn Island, they burned their ships.
They were undiscovered for another 25 years.
Pitcairn Island was like 40 miles from the nearest charted isle.
I believe there was a whaler that discovered them, I think, in 1808.
Most of the mutineers were dead by then.
Alcoholism, they fought among themselves.
They had all kinds of problems.
And yeah, they intermarried with the Polynesian women, and every single descendant on Pitcairn Island is descended from those people.
And they're all Seventh-day Adventists, by the way, too.
Just to throw that out there.
Not Southern Baptists.
Well, we could change that.
This is what I'm saying.
They got 50 people and they welcome the Christian Zionists.
Yeah, where do they stand on the Israel question?
No, but seriously, we could colonize that and have our ethno-state in two weeks if the will is there.
But I mean, it is the most remote inhabited place on earth.
And Tony knows it from Puerto Rico, another island nation, but not nearly the same island nation as Pitcairn Island has nothing to do with what we're talking about tonight, but it is interesting, as you always are, Tony.
An hour hell.
We could have gone the whole show with you tonight.
Thank you very much.
Well, thank you for joining us.
And as I said, I still had a few rounds left in the chamber.
I'm looking at my notes, and it wasn't even, we weren't ever even.
I'm waiting for Jared.
I always look forward to hearing Jared.
Well, he's coming up.
He's coming up, and he'll be here in a couple of minutes.
But look at this.
Look at my notes.
I didn't even get to that page.
Look at all that scriptures craft.
Hey, Tony, drive on by, okay.
Indeed.
We love you, Tony.
Thank you for joining us from Puerto Rico tonight.
So many different nations that we have been in touch with this month.
But we'll be back with a very special installment next.