March 15, 2026 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Radio Show Hour 2 – 2026/03/14
Dr. Tomislav Sunich joins James Edwards to analyze Croatia's shifting demographics and diplomatic tensions, including President Milanović's summons of the Israeli ambassador over anti-Semitic rhetoric. Sunich critiques the EU as a "money machine" that prioritizes historical grievances over migration issues while condemning strikes on Karg Island by both Trump and Netanyahu. He warns of "negative dialectics" within Jewish intellectual circles and contrasts Scandinavian pro-Ukrainian stances with Central European conciliation toward Russia. The discussion concludes by linking post-Civil War legal pathologizing to global conflicts, urging listeners to recognize classical myths as superior tools for understanding human deception compared to modern treatises. [Automatically generated summary]
You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the political cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, going across the South and worldwide, as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Welcome back, everybody.
Our march around the world and what a march it's been so far.
We are in the second hour of the second week of this year's installment.
Last week, England, Australia, Mexico, Canada, tonight, first hour.
We were in the far reaches of Eastern Europe and Estonia with Ruben Caleb.
We are backtracking now to a more centralized part of Europe, Croatia, with Dr. Tomislav Sunich, the retired diplomat, professor, political savant.
An all-around man-about town.
That is exactly right.
Now, Tom is one of our regulars, and he is back with us tonight once again to join our annual World Showcase to bring us the latest news from the Balkans.
But we are certainly going to get into Iran a little bit more this hour and so much more.
But first, let's say hello.
Tom, hello, and how are things in Zagreb tonight?
Well, thank you.
Thank you for your call, James.
I'm awake.
I'm all up, and I'm all ready for your questions.
And how do I feel?
I feel very well, except it's very early, although very late.
It's 1 a.m. in the morning, you know, our local time here.
So I'm staying up anyway.
Well, I tell you, and I say this, I mean, the audience is probably thinking I've got it on repeat, but I want to be sure to tell everybody who appears on this show in March that I appreciate them staying up so late.
I say it every week.
The audience hears it all the time, but the individual guest only hears it once.
And so for Reuben Caleb, and it's 2 a.m. in Estonia now.
We're going back now to Tom in Croatia where it's still 1 a.m., but still late.
That's for sure.
Keith, what are you going to be doing at 1 a.m. tonight?
Hopefully sleeping.
But not Tom and not Ruben and not anybody who appears on this show this month.
So Tom, we do appreciate it.
We've got so much to get into tonight with you this hour.
Let's get started.
And just, well, first, just give us the pulse of Croatia this year.
We always like to check in on these distant ports of call to see how our people are faring.
How are things going for whites in Croatia?
Still one of the whitest nations of Europe and certainly one of the last nations to fight with the guys and brought this up.
Yeah, go ahead.
I'm glad that you brought this up because this is an ethnic white enclave here.
So I would certainly encourage all our friends, you know, our white friends from the South, especially, because, you know, I like southerners very much, to come over, at least do some scouting and check it around.
And if I can be of any assistance whatsoever in terms of relocating, I'll be happy to help you out.
You know, there are quite a few of, you know, quite a few of Americans, quite a few of Croatian Americans.
Of course, you know, they had a large diaspora, Croatian diaspora in the States.
So the people are now moving.
Quite a few of them are moving back to Croatia and settling down here.
So I would encourage you again, folks, if I can be of any assistance, I'm more than happy to help you.
One interesting development which may be of interest for your listeners, James.
Let me tell you what happened the other day.
The other day, the Israeli ambassador to Croatia was summoned by the president of Croatia Milanovich to his office.
And he was given a dressing down, literally, for his earlier remarks about Croatia harboring, quote unquote, the Israeli terrorist and the Iranian terrorists in the Iranian embassy.
Let me just avoid confusions.
The Iranian embassy, apparently, according to the Iranian sources and according to the Israeli sources, I'm always confusing those two words.
I'm sorry about this.
So anyway, there was a diplomatic scandal.
And the next day, of course, the Croatian president, Milanovich, he gave a dressing down to the Israeli ambassador.
He told him, you cannot behave like this, you know, and then publicly he stated, we don't want to have, quote, germs and vermin in our, you know, you know, in Croatia.
No, he used a very graphic language, very slang.
I know the guy, I mean, I worked with him a long time ago, back when I was the diplomat.
You know, he is a left-leaning fellow, like the Teyod Milanovich.
And please do keep in mind, we have a sort of a two-tier government.
You know, on the one hand, you have the president of Croatia, Zoran Milanovich, he's a very sturdy guy, well spoken, by the way.
And on the other hand, on the other hand, you have Plenkovich, who is a minister, a prime minister, and he is very much, you know, how can I say, he's very much in line with the European Union.
He doubles down on his European sort of causing up to Ursula von Ryan and so on and so forth.
So anyway, what happened yesterday was the Israeli government accused President Milanovich of the standard stuff, the usual stuff, of using, quote, the anti-Semitic rhetoric and of not behaving in appropriate fashion.
So basically, you know, I don't want to say that the diplomatic relations have been broken, but by and large, there was a big stir.
There was a big rupture, so to speak, in the communication.
And now you have millions and millions of, what do you call it, memes and comments on social media.
So please do check it.
Just check Google on your Google President Milanovich and Israel and the Israeli ambassador to Croatia.
So anyway, this is the latest news now in Croatia, which is quite significant because this again gives you an idea of how Europe by large reacts to this mess, if I can put it that way, in the Gulf and in the Middle East.
Well, what you've got, Tom, is this.
You've got Milanovich being taken to task by the Israelis for behaving like the Israelis do.
They don't want strangers in their midst.
But of course, they get to do it.
No one else, including the Croatians, get to do what they do.
Absolutely.
Well, listen, all European leaders must have their, excuse my words, their share of brown-nosing.
You know, you don't want to, you can talk about absolutely everything, whatever you like, but you don't want to make negative statements about Israel.
That's one thing.
This is like the gospel, okay?
And you understand the taboo.
Yeah, that's interesting.
But you know, it's interesting with Croatia, because I don't know how many years we've been doing this March Around the World series.
It doesn't go back to the very founding of the show, but we've been doing it for several years now.
And Tom, you have always been a mainstay on this.
I think you've appeared in every single installment we've done, whether it's been five or six years, however long it's been.
And remembering that, I recall you having told me before about, first of all, Croatia being one of the most white nations of Europe, but also that not only did they fight on the German side of World War II, they fought they continued to fight beyond the Germans, what the Germans did.
And so, you know, do you think that in any way still has a lingering effect on the thinking here?
On the thinking of the European Union, you know, okay, look, I don't want to, you know, the Croats, just like most East European nations and for that matter, European nations, they like to brag about their national consciousness, their cultural memory, and what have you.
But okay, there's always a backlash.
There's also the bad side of it.
There's a disadvantage.
How can I put it better, you know?
Because unfortunately, as I keep saying over and over again, you know, the Croats' worst enemies, under quotation, Marxists, are the neighboring states, or Serbs, or for that matter, you know, the Bosniaks and so on.
So you have to put things in perspective just as much as I certainly admire the fact that Croats are proud of their medieval culture and what have you.
But at the same time, they have this, what I call it, this negative legitimacy, negative identity by trying to reinvent and trying to, how can I say, create or generate identity by demonizing the other European nation.
And this is unfortunately typical for all, all, all European nations.
You look at the Flemish and the Walloons, you look at the Poles and look at the Germans.
They constantly have this thread of those.
Very important.
They all have a much bigger enemy than the neighboring nation to them.
Even on the official level, if I can just sum it up a little bit, even in the European Union, the European Union, it's just a joke.
Let me put it that bluntly.
I'm now retired, so I can say certain things that I wouldn't tell you.
But the fact of the matter is it's a joke.
It's just a money machine.
People spend lots of money.
We are talking about 40,000 people directly or indirectly being involved in this money machine.
So I don't think they can do anything.
And that's, you know, if I could just backpedal a little bit and make a digression.
That's why I'm fully in agreement.
At least I wasn't fully in agreement with President Trump.
He was quite critical of the European Union.
He was quite critical of their non-decision making.
And he deserves, or rather, he deserved credit for his stand on the European Union bureaucracy.
Now, as far as the Middle Eastern crisis is concerned, we can continue about that.
And of course, I'm not happy with what's going on now.
And I'm not happy at all with his decision about bombing Iran.
Taking Our Own Side Now00:15:16
Whatever I can think of.
And then on the other hand, Tom, Tom, we need to question whether or not that's his decision or Netanyahu's.
Well, we know that it was Netanyahu's, but nevertheless, Trump still signed off on it.
And the buck stops here, right?
Well, listen, we're going to get into all of that.
And the rock and roll of Ayatollah, as Tom puts it.
Tom, also, like our first hour guest, Ruben Caleb, who participated in this talk.
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When we call this our march around the world, we mean it.
England, Australia, Mexico, Canada, Estonia, and now Croatia so far.
And we're only in, what, the fifth hour of this month for our broadcasting schedule.
We are making haste and putting on those frequent flyer miles.
I always love having Tom Sunich on.
Tom is a mainstay on this program, not just in this special series that we've been doing for a few years, but going back all the way to the beginning, I remember picking strawberries with Tom in Memphis, you know, back in, what, 2008?
And we went over to a Council of Conservative Citizens Conference in Alabama together.
We drove together.
Tom has just always been there.
Tom, I think I got a picture of Tom holding my daughter who turned 16 next week when she was a newborn.
No, I can't.
And you know, I can't, Tom.
And I've got two Christmas ornaments on my tree every year that you and your wife sent us.
I mean, you know, there really is a familial thing here when we call our friends and our listeners and our guests family.
We mean it.
And I certainly mean it with you.
You go back to the very beginning.
I really respect and admire you, my friend.
Well, thank you.
Well, listen, I'm not ruling out relocating everyone back to the States, whatever happens.
Oh, we want to come to Croatia.
Hang on.
We'll train with him.
We can free places because, you know, I like southern noise, you know, for a variety of reasons.
I've written about that.
I've given speeches and I always put in a good word for you, you know, wherever I go.
I appreciate that.
We need it.
We certainly need it.
You know where I'm coming from.
The very fact that the United States is turning more and more into a third world country, and I'll tell you quite openly, and I just, I don't feel comfortable over there.
Certainly more so than it is.
And you wonder whether you're in Kimbuktu or whether you're someplace in Africa, you know, it's just no longer white in Ireland.
Well, you know, you know, of course, the United States is so expansive from sea to shining sea.
It depends on where.
But certainly there are a lot of places in the United States that look a lot more like Paris and, you know, London than do Zagreb or Tom.
Well, it's 60% white in America, and it's typically 80% or more white in European nations.
Well, in Memphis, it's majority black, but you can go to some places in America, and it's virtually 100% white.
I mean, it is a vast expanse.
But I want to talk to you about this very quickly, Tom.
What you were talking about before, and that is, you know, we were talking about this with Ruben Caleb in the first hour.
The distinctions between Estonians and Russia, the Russians, the distinctions between Walloons and the Flemish, our friends Philip DeWinter and Anka Vonemers there in Belgium and the Poles and the Germans.
How do we reconcile the national distinctions versus the still one people when it comes to the true outsiders, as Keith puts it?
Can that be done?
It's a trick that Europeans haven't learned to make yet.
And jump that shark.
I'm very pessimistic about this, I'll tell you quite frankly.
So I don't want to live in the self-denial.
This is very typical for many Christian nationalists in the world.
And even some German nationalists, I'll be a guest.
In fact, I've got two big speaking engagements in Germany in the German language, by the way, and I feel pretty much at home there as well.
But there's always this, what do you call it, this undercurrent, what's the best word, this deep resentment against the first-door neighbors.
And then, of course, they're coming up with their own horror story from the Second World War.
It's just a theme that always keeps popping up over and over again, let alone that you can feel it daily here between Serbs and Croats, the two neighboring nations.
So again, I don't want to sound too pessimistic, but the fact of the matter is I don't know what major shock we need here in Europe to really stay united.
So please do not idealize too much.
Don't romanticize the European quote-unquote cause too much.
So I guess I would advise you.
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All right, so not exactly sure what happened there, but let's use that other number that we gave at the beginning of the night.
We'll get Tom Sunich back.
In fact, as a matter of fact, let me text him so he knows what's going on.
Keith, live radio, as always.
Why don't you hold the fort here and continue to expound upon the point that Tom was making?
Well, the point he's making is that it seems like most Europeans would rather fight and squabble with their next-door neighbor nation and turn a blind eye to all of these racial strangers, these Muslims and Africans and others that are finding their way to their shores and they're taking them over.
Basically, I think every European needs to read Camp of the Saints by Jean-Ross Paul.
Well, I mean, this is it, Keith, as we're talking here while our producer reconnects with Tom.
In Croatia, Europeans have always loved to fight each other.
I mean, this goes back.
White people do.
Look.
White people, yeah, I mean, North and South.
Certainly, you know, when you think about it in contemporary terms and Ukrainians?
Well, that's very contemporary.
But, you know, going back a little bit further than that, World Wars 1 and 2.
But before that, the French and English, the English and the Scots, I mean, what in the hell is our problem?
The Franco-Prussian War.
Big time, big-time problem.
Now, yes, the Indians did it too.
The feather Indians did it too.
The blacks do it.
I mean, they all enslave and rape and genocide each other.
But we want to be better than that, right?
You know, we certainly want to be better than that and not the same as them.
Yet here we are.
Tom, apologies for that.
Continue on with your thoughts.
Sure, you hung up on me.
I don't know what happened, you know.
But anyway, Keith, actually, it was Keith, and that's why he's out there.
Keith, get the hell out of here.
No, I warn that.
James's credit card.
Can you hear me well now?
We hear you fine.
Keith, you're out of here, son.
You're done.
It was your credit card.
It wasn't mine.
Yeah, that's right.
That's why we need some contributions ready.
Keep going, keep going, Tom.
Sure.
Well, anyway, look, I told you, I don't want to sound too tragic or too pessimistic, but the fact of the matter is, regardless of what's going on now with this massive flows of migrations that we talk about, millions and millions of people, the whole ethnic profile of Western Europe has changed dramatically.
I mean, if you go anyplace, you know, in Western Europe, you know, that's the reason, even when I get invitations from my friends from Frankfurt or, for that matter, even from UK or so, I just feel uncomfortable.
I just don't, you know, on the biological level.
Do you hear what I mean?
On the speech level, I don't feel at home at all, you know, because it's changed dramatically.
But other than that, keep in mind there's always this undercurrent of different, you know, diverse resentments, those historical memories playing a certain role in antagonizing in mutual antagonization of nations and peoples who are living here in the vicinity.
And I, you know, I'm sort of a, I'm not a preacher of pan-Europeanism.
It has a different connotation here in Europe.
But I certainly would like people to stress more their roots, the ethnic roots, and of course, forget their stories which sometimes don't make much sense in the first place.
Well, I've got a modest proposal for you, Tom.
What you need to do is make John Ross Paul's Camp of the Saints required reading for every European.
That needs to be taught in schools.
Well, that goes for Americans, too.
I mean, you know, us too, but that's for sure.
But I think that's the problem with Christian Zionists that I blame them most.
I don't blame so much.
I'll tell you, quite frankly, I'm not a spokesman of President Trump, and I still have a pretty good opinion of this gentleman.
But the fact of the matter is, has been really, you know, has been trapped.
I don't know what happened, but I think that's the problem.
Well, look, controlled Russia in the 19th century, I mean, in the 20th century, and it looks like they're bound to control America in the 21st century.
And Netanyahu that is behind this war.
Don't ever make any mistake about it.
I mean, Netanyahu, yes, but at the same time, Trump has to sound, we cannot absolve him of that responsibility.
So the bug stops here.
And it's a terrible thing.
Although, like Tom, I understand that this is a horrible situation.
It is a huge issue, but it is not the only issue.
And I appreciate, Tom, with what Tom was saying a second ago.
You still have to put all the issues on a balance and ask yourself, are you better off with Trump or Abigail Spanberger, governor of Virginia?
You know, people like that running Harris, running your country.
That's not to absolve him.
This Iranian thing is an F-.
It's terrible.
Nobody's giving him any quarter for that.
But, Tom, I appreciate you, as a seasoned diplomat and politician and spokesman for our people, being able to see the widescreen vision here.
Absolutely.
Again, if you asked me about this, it really took me by surprise.
I was not just disappointed.
I was shocked when this whole thing happened.
Keep in mind, you know what happened just a day before this bombing started.
I think that Tucker Carlson was in his office.
He was trying to dissuade him from that.
That's what I've heard.
I don't know whether this is true or not.
And some other good guys that I certainly respect, like Tucker Carlson, of course, you know, I've always had a high opinion of him.
And, of course, some other gentlemen, including that lady from Georgia.
And I'm afraid for our movement.
Marjorie Taylor, but that don't compare with Brent and Benjamin Netanyahu.
Nobody has the power that Netanyahu has.
And see, Trump knows, like most people, he'd rather live rather than die.
And if you buck what we call the Eskimos over here, that's how you wind up.
That's what happened to Charlie Kirk.
That's what happened to John F. Kennedy.
And that's what happened to Solomani and Myatolla.
That's not it.
The truth is no excuse.
Death is no excuse.
You know, I say, and we've all put it on the line here, but I mean, no, I mean, if you're willing to be president of the United States, you have to be willing to die.
And you have to be willing to die.
I mean, seriously, you have.
I mean, if you're going to put yourself out to that level, you have to understand that there are some in the oath of office, but maybe we have to do that.
There are threats attendant to having that.
Anyway, level of power.
Got to take a quick break.
We'll be back with Tom.
Sure.
We always talk about the riffs on the right.
Some people actually seem to enjoy it.
What about the riffs on the left?
He'll tell us about it when we come back.
It's a good point.
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Iran is urging people to evacuate major ports in the UAE as its war with the U.S. and Israel enters the third week.
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Trump said he hopes other countries send warships to keep the Strait of Hormuz open and safe.
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Industry analysts say the impact of higher jet fuel costs can vary based on the route, airline, and travel demand.
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Well, welcome back.
As our march around the world continues tonight, our stops in Estonia and now Croatia with one of its favorite sons, Dr. Tomislav Sunic, diplomat, professor, author.
bon vivant, thinker, speaker, and so much more, a lifelong champion for our people.
We're still going to go to Brazil before the night is over, and we'll be down there in the third hour.
So stay tuned for that.
And still, we're not even quite halfway through our march around the world.
Still two weeks to come.
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Backlash Against Jewish People00:15:00
But I got to say, before we toss it back to Tom, that it's not like this, folks, that remind me why we do what we do.
I don't think there's ever been one time in the last 22 years where I left the studio saying, you know, we really laid an egg tonight.
That was just not a good show.
I've never said that.
But there are some shows where you just feel like this is exactly why people support us and why we do this.
And I felt it last week with Nick Griffin.
I feel it tonight with Ruben and with Tom.
And this is it.
I mean, this is the show.
This is TPC.
And Tom, let's get back to what we were talking about right before the break, that little teaser.
You've noticed a rift on the left.
I mean, so often, you know, people in our circles talk about the infighting on the right, and certainly that's a problem.
But you asked the question.
Why are Jewish academics in the European Union and, you know, even the SPLC and ADL, et cetera, more conciliatory now to right-wingers?
Are they more afraid of their leftist antifra progeny now, who they birthed long ago?
Frankenstein's monster.
We can call it the negative dialectics, if I can put it somewhat in a Marxian lingo, you know.
Like once upon a time, keep in mind, the Frankfurt School and even prior to that, Jewish intellectuals from Europe, from Paris, from Berlin and so on, in a way, they birthed it.
They gave birth to those different leftist movements and different anti-fascist movements all over Europe, and especially in academia and higher learning.
And what happened over the last couple of years is that the left that more or less the Jews had created in the first place is now turning against Israel.
So hence another paradox, which is a logical paradox, by the way.
Those who are quite vocal and actually the most vocal opponents of Israel and those who are the most vocal and supporters of Palestinians, who are waving those Palestinian flags and so on, are the leftists.
You don't see any right-wingers at all, which makes sense.
Because keep in mind, again, as far as the psychology of right-wingers, even educated right-wingers here in Europe is concerned, or for that matter in the United States, is that we still suffer from this stigma, from this mortgage hackiness of the Second World War, of the stigma of the shut-up word of anti-Semitism.
Hence the reason that the left large, especially on campuses from Berkeley all the way down to Colombia, they are much more, how can I put it, they have more of a leeway.
They can say certain things that I wouldn't say, you know, because I would automatically get a label of being an anti-Semite, you know, from the SPLC and ADL.
Now, as far as the ADL and SPLC is concerned, including the Kricht in France and the different Amadeus Stiftung, you know, the leftist Stiftung, which is heavily financed by the German government, of course, they are becoming a little bit more conciliatory to the right-wingers, precisely because they now feel more of a threat coming from the left, you know.
So even the Jewish identity, if I can put it somewhat bluntly, because I don't have time, you know, to explain it all in an academic lingo.
But the fact of the matter is that the even Jewish identities now is being threatened by the very same Pole folks that they once created.
Even the mass migration, even this phenomenon of multiculturalism, who are the loudest spokesmen of multiculturalism?
Well, look at the American Civil Rights Act in the early 60s.
So for that matter, look what Merkel.
Look at what's been going on in Europe over the last 20, 60, or rather 60, 70 years.
The loudest spokesmen were basically academics of Jewish extraction.
Frankenstein's monster has turned on Dr. Frankenstein.
Absolutely.
That's the paradox of history.
Well, look at even if I, I don't know if you have time, one more minute, I got to explain, even if you look at the Bolshevism, of course, there was a large segment of Jews, Russian Jews, who were the proponents of Bolshevism.
In fact, in the government, early 1917, 1920, there was quite a few of them, as a matter of fact.
But by and large, they suffered Jews tremendously from the very same ideas that they once created.
That's the paradox of our history.
So there is a nice saying in English.
Don't claim something that it will come to my mind.
Be careful what you wish for, it's your dream, my God.
Be careful what you, in fact, you know where it comes from.
I always quote him.
I gave a speech in French on him, Juvenal.
Juvenile is a great Roman author.
He actually talked about this phenomenon.
Don't ask for something that can hurt you.
It's a backlash, and it's just going on.
And you have precisely the same situation now happening all over Eastern Europe as well.
And I guess I just, I don't, in fact, I understand what's going on.
I presume I understand very well what's going on through the mind of many Jewish intellectuals in Israel as well, because now, of course, they have to cope with the fact that their brainchildren, their brainchild is now turning against them, you know.
It's called negative dialectics, let's put it in somewhat academic helling or whatever that means.
And it can have some very, very bad consequences for the Jewish identity, for that matter, even in the States.
I don't know if you follow the news, if you read, I read quite often, you know, what the SPLC and ADL comments, and I read the Israeli newspapers as well, and I notice a certain amount of, I don't want to say paranoia, but a certain amount of tension, a certain amount of self-denial as well.
And I don't know, I don't know which side it will take.
There are some great Jewish authors who we both respect very much, like Ron Onus, who's got excellent pieces, and then Itza Shamir as well, and Finkelstein.
I mean, I certainly admire those folks for having the guts, for having the balls of saying certain things which other folks, which other Aryans, folks without Gentiles wouldn't say that.
Well, what they say about the Jews, what they say, Tom, is the Jews like talking like crazy.
I'm sorry about that.
I was going to say, Jews like to own both sides of each coin, so you'll find that the top leftists and the top rightists.
They played this side.
Absolutely.
And I guess, again, as far as the right-wingers, as far as the nationalists are concerned, I don't need to rehash that and recap over and over again.
The fact of the matter is that we have this stigma of Nazism, of Ustaschism, of fascism, of white racism, whatever that means means nothing, you know.
And hence the reason we are much more cautious and hence the reason also that many of those folks, and I know some of them, not high-level, but low-level folks in the FBO in Austria, and some of them are conciliatory.
They're trying to buy some favors with the Israelis.
They stage pilgrimages, literally, to this wall in Jerusalem.
And they want to buy some favors from Israelis.
Not all of them, but quite a few of them.
Precisely because they want to exonerate themselves from those, what I call it.
Well, just about every member of Congress has a picture of himself wearing a yarmuka and kissing the whaling wall.
Yes, yes, yes.
That's called the politics of penitence.
I had a piece on that in the Occidental Observer, quite a large one, the politics of penitence.
And I guess we all have to go through it.
And I assume, I'm just taking a wild guess, please don't quote me on that, but I assume that also Donald Trump has been subjected to this type of brainwash, if I can put it that way.
Without question.
Well, look, you're not going to be a success in real estate development in New York City unless you've made peace with the Jews.
Well, that's the big question.
I mean, they could be debated forever.
We will have a debate.
Well, I mean, it's all true.
Was Trump always a Trojan whore?
Has he been compromised?
Does he genuinely agree with us, but has been compelled to at least give the Jews Iran?
We could talk about that all day, and nobody really knows.
Let's not kid ourselves.
But, Tom, like you, there has been some good that Trump has done, even in light of Iran.
Even the post-Iranian Trump assessment has to be somewhat objective and be put on a balance.
A scale has to be balanced, and this is an issue.
It is a big issue.
It is not the only issue.
We're going to talk about that with Jared Taylor and Dr. Michael Hill as we get into the next few weeks as we clear our march around the world.
But, I mean, Tom, you've already, you know, of course, sort of touched on that tonight.
That is not to absolve Trump of the catastrophe, the complete and utter failure that his decision on Iran has been.
But do you really want Abigail Spanberger and her ilk running the country?
It's just a fair question.
I'm not saying that as a Trump loyalist.
I don't, you know, I view Trump as a utility.
Can he help white people?
That's all I care about.
But I have to be honest.
Absolutely.
I'm more concerned with internal issues.
And I love it.
I got to give him a massive credit, Krimp.
I'm talking about him for standing up for our folks during those Washington, to Congress, the January 6th protesters.
Certainly, he let all them out of jail a year ago.
And I complimented him on his understanding what this law for it means.
This awful lot in the United States of America is worse than in Congress.
Hold on right there.
My friend, we got to take a.
That's saying something as well.
That's saying something.
We've got to take a quick time out.
Last break of the hour.
We'll come back.
We're going to talk to Tom about right-wing parties in Europe posing up to the Jews of Israel.
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Now, Tom, let's talk about this.
Again, one of the purposes of our March Around the World is to inquire of our guests, the situation our people are facing or enjoying or being subjected to in these distant ports of call.
And we do that.
But I also want to know about these right-wing parties in Europe, which, again, it's all a matter of perspective.
You know, here we have the Republicans and the Democrats.
In Europe, depending on the nation, you have any number of parties that are either more or less favorable than what we would desire.
But here, of course, the Republicans cozing up to the Jews in Israel is a very big problem.
Let's talk about the right-wing parties of Europe cozing up to the Jews in Israel.
What are you seeing?
What are the real parties that are advancing our position and what parties are sort of taking in?
Well, playing a little bit too close with Flutsi with the Jews.
There you go.
Well, take it, Tom.
Look, James said it at the beginning of our discussion that this national memory, I'll put it on the quotation marks, and the historical memory of European nations is just as much as it can sound very rosy and very, very academic, very, very nice and romantic, it also has its bad sides.
Namely, it is often used as a weapon as it's being weaponized against the neighboring nation.
Because if you look quite openly at the map of Europe, you know, every European nation at some point in the recent history has been in war with the neighboring white nation.
That's our tragedy.
And you've got to ask yourself a question, who benefits from it?
And we know very well who benefits from it.
Now, as far as this current situation is concerned, also keep in mind that, for instance, my friend and my colleagues, I will be in Finland shortly with Jerry Taylor and Greg Johnson as well.
Religious Rift Across Europe00:08:11
I'll tell you one thing when I speak with those guys with the Scandinavian nationalists, they are quite quite, not all of them, but quite a few of them are very, very pro-Ukrainian.
They're siding up with the Ukrainian nationalists with all due respect.
However, if you move down south, if you look to the France, and I have in France, I also have friends, you know, quote-unquote nationalist friends, you know, and I know some of them very well.
And in Central Europe as well, in Germany, you have the opposite side.
I don't want to say that they are Russian agents, but they are much more conciliatory folks in Central Europe, in Hungary, nationalists in Hungary.
They are much more conciliatory toward Putin and toward Russia than their friends.
They are nationalist friends in Scandinavia.
So again, you have this rift also.
We can call it the religious rift as well.
Why is that, Tom?
Why would the people in Scandinavia be interested in?
Because, you know, Scandinavians, Finland has had very bad, for instance, Finland had a very bad relationship.
It was part of Russia.
Tsarists.
And that's exactly what Ruben was talking about.
Yeah, absolutely.
Estonian.
Whatever side Russia is on there against it.
Absolutely.
Wise Estonian.
I certainly appreciate it.
I like Estonians.
I like the Baltics nations.
They're great nations.
But the fact of the matter is they suffered under communism tremendously.
They lost their gene pool over there.
It was destroyed by the Croats.
And not just by the communists, but even prior to that, during the Tsarist Russia, during Alexander III and then Nikola.
And in fact, you've got to check out both sides.
Just as much as I can appreciate my story, my Croatian story, I've got to look at the other side as well.
And of course, which doesn't mean that we've got to demonize the Russians, quite to the contrary.
But we got to actually always keep in mind we have a common thread.
We are Europeans.
We have a European gene pool.
And we've got to stick together and forget our tribal issues, our in-group issues, because it's not going to take us anywhere.
This is probably the benefit of the United States.
Regardless of the Civil War, you know what happened during the Civil War.
James, I will side with you more on that issue.
That's what I'm saying.
You always have to ask yourself a question.
How do my adversaries, my enemies, my foes, how do they look at me?
How do, for instance, folks, let's say there are 40 million non-Europeans who live in the European Union, mostly migrants, first, second, third generation.
Well, I'll tell you what.
How do they look now at the Ukrainian and Russian people?
I know what you're saying, and I just can't bring myself to it.
What was the Lincolnites thinking?
Honestly, Tom, if the Confederates had won that war, we white people would have there would have never been a World War II.
America would never have gotten into the world.
Here we go.
Exactly.
There is a book, a nice book on that issue.
I could talk about this.
Precisely.
This is, in fact, the First World War started with the defeat of the Confederates.
And this process, even on the verbal, this law for a thing, I like this word law, even the process of demonizing in international law.
It started with the defeat of the South.
Then you have this demonizing, criminological, pathologizing in language.
And I wrote about this quite extensively together with Kevin McDonald.
Exactly.
It's so true that the defeat of the South led to the World Wars as we know them.
Now, the thing is, they don't want us to split up because they don't want an America that's half as large, half as wealthy, half as populated that couldn't be used.
And we probably would not have been involved in World Wars I or II had the Confederacy prevailed.
All right, Tom, we got just a minute or two remaining, and I want to be sure to work this in.
If you want to read Tom's thoughts on Iran, you can check it out in the next issue of American Free Press.
I would ask you a two-part question with about two minutes remaining, and we have to make haste.
I could have gone three hours with you, as I said with Ruben earlier.
What is the average Croatian citizen thinking about the war in Iran?
I mean, are they that concerned about it?
And then give us a very quick preview of your upcoming schedule and projects, because I know you're always on the speaking circuit.
All right, as far as the Iran issue is concerned, there is not a uniformed opinion about that, even in the government circles.
Some folks are just too hesitant to afraid of speaking out loudly against this joint bombardment by the Israeli and American forces precisely because of the Israeli issue.
Probably there would be more comfort.
They beat up on the Americans, but not the job.
But nobody wants to touch this.
They take a 10-foot pole, and they just, as far as Israel is concerned, it's the biggest taboo.
Especially, you know, you know what the laws are, the legislations, you know, in the European Union.
Just for a minor joke, you can end up in a jail, you know.
So we don't have the First Amendment here anyway.
So, but, you know, folks, but I'm glad that things are there.
Folks are waking up, you know.
Even folks, you know, we're not necessarily academics, but they see more clearly now than, let's say, five or six years back.
Now, as far as my tours are concerned, well, I'm proud to tell you that's next week.
In fact, next Tuesday, I have a speech in the nearby Hungary.
You know, I like the Hungarians.
Believe it or not, there's a large German community.
I'm not talking about all community, ethnic Germans prior to the Second World War and their descendants, but I'm talking about the Germans who literally immigrated, who settled down, who relocated to Hungary.
And Hungary, it's a nice place, the Balaton Lake.
You may want to check on the map.
So I'm having a speech on the German jurisdiction, on the German law affair, of course, in a very mild language, in a very, I can say, very convoluted lingo, because I cannot be too explicit.
But Hungary, it's a two hours drive from here, by the way.
So this is my first speech in German, and I'll talk about generally about the German audience, about 50, 60 people.
And then let me tell you, I will be next month in April on the 19th in Finland.
And I'm glad to announce that, folks, and you may want to spread this message, spread this news.
Jared Taylor will be there as a speaker.
I will be as a speaker.
And Greg Johnson, some other folks from Europe will be speakers.
And I was there last year with Jared Taylor and some other folks from Europe.
And we had a very good turnout, very ritzy, very nice, very well organized by the guys.
And I got to give credit to this guy, Tuku Kare.
He's a Finnish guy.
And it's very nice, very well spoken, and I speak perfect English.
They're well dressed, well-groomed, so there's nothing wild.
And I enjoy being there.
And then right after that, I have then in Germany again for the folks in, I guess, that's May, 20th, May 20th, in Woodmanhausen.
It's a nice place in Turingia.
I have a talk on the ancient myths in German, of course, ancient myths and modern myths.
And what's the difference?
What do they have in common?
So my main thesis is basically that we can learn from Homer and Ovid Ovidius much more about the lies and deceptions and self-denial and how people transform themselves, how they metamorphos themselves into different species than we can learn from all those sad treatises from quote-unquote modern experts and world knowers and world enablers and world improvers.
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That's my major point.
Tom, you know, every year that passes brings me to a point where I say, you know, I can't possibly admire or appreciate this guy anymore.
And then you come back on the show and that capacity just expands as it has done tonight.
Thank you so much for informing us for another hour this evening live from Croatia, another appearance during our march around the world and for all you do for our people, all you have done, all you are doing, and all you will continue to do as, well, you've just given us a couple of stops you're going to be making in the very near future.