Jan. 4, 2026 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
And welcome back, everybody.
This is our third and final hour of the first show of 2026, an eventful show.
A lot happened today, earlier this morning in Venezuela.
We're going to have more coverage of that next week, more comprehensive coverage with Patrick Martin and Jose Nino.
Stay tuned for that next week when the takes will be fully baked.
No hot takes, just well-informed and succulent takes.
I tell you, those two guys, you can't do better on this issue than them.
But first, we are going now down to South America.
South America.
No, that's where all the action is right now.
South Africa.
South Africa.
This is Rich and Janice Hamblin.
We've been talking about it all show.
They are down in South Africa right now.
They're on the eastern cape of that beautiful nation.
And it is Sunday morning at 4 a.m. If you're listening live, whereas it is 8 p.m. Central here on Saturday evening.
And it's summertime down there.
And Rich Hamblin is with us.
And I tell you, folks, I texted Rich the other day.
We were talking about plans for Christmas.
He said he's going to be flying down to South Africa.
He and his wife, who is a mainstay on our Valentine's Day shows, you all know Janice.
Rich, a longtime contributor and sponsor and friend.
They flew on Christmas Eve and into Christmas Day down to South Africa.
That was a Christmas to remember, Rich.
What made you decide to take that particular trip at that particular time?
And welcome back.
Yeah. Yeah.
Happy New Year.
Well, I'd wanted to come to South Africa.
I'm turning 71 this month, and I figure, well, I've got the resources.
I'd like to go back to South Africa at least one more time.
So we schedule a trip, and this is it.
We've been down here almost 10 days.
We're going to leave out on Wednesday and fly back to the Saints.
I know Keith had an interesting question, and I'm always fascinated by this.
Not only is it not even the same day, it's not even the same season.
Keith was asking, well, you can ask the question, Keith.
Go ahead and do it.
Well, he was asking, since it's 4 a.m., where you're at locally in South Africa right now, if you stayed up late for the show or if you got up early.
Well, a little bit of both.
I went ahead and did Mike Gatty's show earlier this evening.
The Rebel Madman.
Yeah, the Rebel Madman.
I was on there, so maybe I've got about maybe an hour's worth of rest in between.
But we're good.
We're ready to go.
Can't keep a good man down even at 4 a.m.
And he's got some pep in his step.
We're going to hear from Simon Roche, who Rich is staying with.
Rich is responsible for bringing Simon Roche to the attention of this program about 10 years ago, I guess.
Simon traveled all over the United States, hundreds of thousands of miles in travel, bringing attention and awareness.
Eight years ago, they all blew it.
Close to 10.
It was the year of Charlottesville.
It was Charlottesville year.
Wow.
Yeah, wow.
Nine years now.
This is 26.
Who's counting?
Yeah, but it says we're in 26.
Yeah, it was in 20.
It was in 17.
And Simon, of course, is the international spokesman for the Sightlanders Organization, which is a civil defense organization preparing for the possibility of potential wide-scale conflict in South Africa in the future.
We'll get to Simon in a moment.
But no, anyway, you spent Christmas in the air flying down to South Africa.
There you are now, and you have been sending me incredible pictures all week.
You actually were on Eddie's show last week, Blood River Radio, last week, when you just landed.
You had just gotten there.
Now a week has passed.
What all have you seen?
What all have you done?
What are some takeaways that would be of interest to this audience?
And you take it away, Rich, wherever you'd like to go.
Well, we're currently domiciling a farm on the Eastern Cape province, which is about two-thirds of the way across the country.
And we're a little bit towards the south.
We're basically, well, I was telling Jason Bartlett, I was describing where I was and sent him a pin drop with a bap, and he looked at it and says, man, you're in the middle of nowhere.
And we pretty much are.
We're staying on a farm owned by a mutual friend of Simon's and mine that is roughly 50,000 acres.
I mean, it's a big, it's a big, big place.
And we're staying in one of the numerous farmhouses on here.
And we live down at the foot of the Bamboo Mountain, what's called the Bamboo Mountains, whereas the owner of the whole place lives about wide the farm is.
It takes about an hour by our really rough roads to get from where we are up to his house up in the mountain, which we were up there yesterday and spent a glorious day with him.
Had a great time.
That's where some of the latest pictures were that I sent you.
So impressions of South Africa, well, the roads aren't any better, that's for sure.
The airport is not any more efficient.
When we landed in Bloemfontein, we went to get our baggage, and the baggage carousel wouldn't work.
So they had the workers come out and throw the bags on the carousel and push them around by hand.
That's like the joke that what did South Africa use for light before they had candles?
And the answer is electricity.
So we haven't really spent any time in the big city.
I mean, we spent the night in Cape Town at the airport, the motel waiting to catch a flight out the next morning.
And then we landed in Bloemfontein where Simon drove up and met us.
And it was a five-hour drive from where he met us down to where he is.
Jeannie says she's having a connectivity problem.
So I guess when you want to go to her, we'll just switch off on my phone.
But we've seen mostly countryside.
The biggest city we've been to that spent any time is a place called Craddock.
And it's not very big, but it's, you know, you've got stores and shopping and all that kind of stuff there.
And the closest little town is called Hoffmair, Hoffmare.
And it's got three or four stores and a couple of restaurants.
And that's about it.
It's kind of a wide spot.
It's got a township, though.
And we drove through that.
And I think I sent you some pictures of the houses.
So it's pretty incredible.
Well, I'm looking at this collection of photos you've sent me, and I'm going to try to describe it verbally the best I can to the audience.
So you've been there a week already, and I'm seeing the sun coming up over a beautiful mountain.
And you mentioned that you flew into Cape Town, then to Bloemfontein.
Now you're in the Eastern Cape at a place near Bamboo Mountain.
I see Simon fixing a tire.
I see.
I mean, you know, what trip would be complete without something?
We had a flat tire.
Yeah, we had a flat tire.
You and Janice eating.
You said it's very hot there.
I see you in shorts.
It is the southern hemisphere, so it is the middle of their summer.
And you're at a Dutch oven right here, having it looks like a very nice meal.
I see you.
Yeah, we're having what they call a bry down here.
South Africa loves to bry.
And it's basically an outdoor barbecue.
So we're on the back porch of the farmhouse that we're staying in, and it's got a built-in barbecue pit, basically.
I mean, it would, you know, the envy of anybody, really.
It's very nice.
And so we were, so Janice was cooking biscuits in a Dutch oven.
That's what that's what I see a huge tortoise.
I see a huge tortoise.
I see several heads of cattle.
I see the little town where Simon's getting his truck repaired, and then more of the landscape.
And the landscape really, you know, kind of reminds me, I guess, of Australia.
It looks a little bit like the Australian Outback.
And I see you here.
And what is this?
It's not a mountain.
Is this a butte or what is that?
It almost looks like a perfect conical sphere.
Yeah, it's like a butte.
I mean, this is all volcanic terrain around here.
You know, South Africa is a very volcanic country.
No active volcanoes, but that's why it's got such mineral wealth.
You know, gold, diamonds, coal, chromium, magnesium, a lot of strategic minerals, which is what caught my interest in South Africa first back in the 70s when I was still pro-USA, pro-U.S. Army, and I was worried about the takeover of the government down here by communists, which has happened.
And how that would impact the position of the United States, because we depend on a lot of their minerals, or we did.
I don't know if that's the case or not.
But it's still.
And they've got a strategic position here looking at over the Cape of Good Hope, which is the oil tanker route before the Suez was open.
And when the Suez has been subsequently closed, it's very strategic because it controls the sea lanes.
We're not that far from Antarctica.
I mean, several thousand miles, but I mean, they got penguins down here and all that kind of stuff.
We didn't see any, but we haven't been down there.
The temperature is actually fairly mild.
I mean, it's in the 80s and 90s, but it's low here.
Down town too close to Antarctica to me.
Yeah.
Well, I guess they get snow here in the wintertime.
Not a whole lot of snow, but it does free.
You know, it gets snowy.
Of course, it's got rains and all that kind of stuff.
But we're isolated.
All right, so let's talk about that.
Because we've talked so many times with you.
You've taken such an interest in South Africa.
I mean, really, your whole life.
We've talked about it in American Free Press interviews with you on the air.
Your friendship with Simon is really born as a result of your affinity and affection and interest in South Africa.
And so we know what happened in South Africa.
Okay, once apartheid ended, we know why the country's shithole now.
We understand all of that.
But your take on where you're at in a very rural area of South Africa, what is life like there as opposed to the cities where the ANC is running them out?
You know, there was an article recently in American Renaissance about life in Joe Burg.
Apparently, they've got criminal gangs taking over all the high-rises.
Are you aware of that situation?
And how different is it where you're at?
Well, where I'm at, we're out in the country.
I mean, I told you, it takes an hour for us to drive all really rough roads from the house we're staying in up to the main farmhouse, the headquarters of the farm, up a mountainous trail.
I mean, and I mean, a mountainous trail, you look off one side, the roads just a dish of sheer drop off into the valley.
So where we are, it's relatively safe because there aren't that many blacks around.
He's got a couple of farm workers that work down here, but we're not near any real population centers.
They're close enough.
You're never really that far.
But all the farmers in this area, this valley, because of the four sales service, they do have two-way radios.
They've set up repeater towers.
So they have a defense network, safety network that they carry a receiver with them in case they run into situations.
Because if you have a flat tire out here and you don't have a spare or you need help, you're out of luck because you're not going to call anybody.
Well, okay, so Rich, I mean, so you're in an area where it's, I guess, you know, rural, so that normally means mostly white.
So it's relatively safe there as far as South African safety can be relatively considered.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, but everybody's, we've got a fence around here mainly for the animals.
But you go to the small vills, yeah, and everybody's got security fences.
They got bars on the bars on the doors here.
Yeah, I think we have interior.
Yeah, we don't have interior lockable gates in this house like we did in the place we stayed in Cape Town on the last visit.
But it's, yeah, it's, yeah, it's, you know, it's South Africa.
Yeah, I mean, so, well, I think you've pretty much said it all.
You actually did send some pictures of like a typical South African home with the barred windows on the exterior of the windows, the bars on the exteriors of the windows.
And then you went by, you know, a black neighborhood, and it didn't look too dissimilar to some of the neighborhoods here in Memphis.
I guess I would ask you, in your area right now, have you seen more blacks there or more blacks on your entire trip than you would on a daily jaunt into downtown Nashville or Memphis?
Well, I wouldn't say that.
You can see an awful lot of them in Nashville.
So, but yeah, I mean, they're everywhere.
And there's Indians and there's Chinese, shop owners, and shopkeepers and stuff like that.
And it's pretty much, you know, that's why we call it Memphis, right?
So it's very similar to that.
The land's real arid.
It's sort of like southwest Texas.
But right now it's fairly, I don't want to say lush, but it's fairly green.
We've had some pretty good rainstorms.
So the cattle have plenty of grazing right now and the sheep too.
And this farm grows a lot of alfalfa as fodder for the animals.
He has about 1,500 cattle, I think he told me, ahead of cattle, and about 75 horses and a large family.
We saw some of the kids yesterday.
Before we talk, we're going to segment this hour with the Hamblins, who have been such important parts of this program.
I mean, not only with their own air appearances, I mean, we've done appearances.
We actually did an appearance, a three-hour live-in-studio appearance with both Rich and Janice and Simon some years ago.
And then they were down here for a funeral a couple of years ago, and we did it again.
And, you know, often they call in.
And so we've known Rich.
I've met Rich for the first time at a Council of Conservative Citizens meeting so many years ago.
And it's just, you know, we've always been together.
And then, you know, you becoming friends with Simon, who's been a regular guest, and now you're at his house.
I mean, it just sort of reaffirms and reaccentuates the whole thing about us, you know, all being a family and a band of brothers here on TPC.
But before we toss it to your better half, Rich, and yes, she is indeed that, as is mine.
But give us one more takeaway from your trip, and then we're going to go to Simon at the bottom of the hour for a segment, and then Rich and Simon are going to close together.
But give us one more takeaway that you think you should impart to the audience before we hear Janice's take on her Christmas in South Africa.
Well, there's a lot of noise down here.
And politically speaking, I guess the ANC has kind of losed its grip on authority, on the vote.
They had to form an alliance with the DA, which is signed kind of like a normie Republican Party is back home.
Believe it or not, a lot of people put, well, I guess you can believe it, a lot of people put a lot of faith in Trump.
Although the reaction yesterday when I broke the news to this family we were with about the takeover of Venezuela, they weren't real happy about it.
So the conservatives here are strongly divided in a lot of ways.
Most of the Afrikaans speakers are hardcore still.
The whites, the ones that are of British extraction, not so much.
There's a lot of part of the language shit libs down here, just like there is back in the United States.
A lot of rainbow people.
And they just kind of, I don't know, they just don't have a grip on reality.
But there's parts of South Africa that are pretty nice, but you can't really let your guard down anywhere.
You just got to be careful.
You got to be looking over your shoulder.
And plus the wildlife.
There's a lot of wildlife down here.
It can kill you.
There's more ways to die in South Africa than any place I know.
And that is where you took your lovely bride to spend Christmas.
But, I mean, there is some beauty down there too, and some incredibly great people.
I get it.
I mean, you know, hell, I raised my family in Memphis.
You can say the same thing about me.
Why would I keep my wife here?
But listen, I mean, there is some beauty and something to see and something to love in South Africa as the people who stay there can certainly attest to.
But let me ask you.
Go ahead.
Well, among the conservatives, it's not really an issue.
I mean, there are a lot of people that have applied for it.
In places like Joberg and Cape Town, Joeburg is really, I mean, Joeburg's got some incredibly wealthy neighborhoods, but it's also the central business district.
I mean, it's just horrible.
The crime-ridden, trash-ridden.
They've got African taxis down here that are menaces on the road.
There's a lot of accidents.
But the refugee salesman program, yeah, there are people are applying for it.
How many have come through?
I don't know.
We saw Jason Bartlett about a month ago, visit him and his new baby down in Alabama, and he's doing quite well.
In fact, you ought to get him back on the show sometime.
But he's running two golf courses down there.
Plus, he's farming 150 acres that he leased.
Yeah, I'd love to have him.
Yeah, you can take the farmer.
Out of South Africa, you can't take the farming out of the South African, though.
But yeah, they come here and they do what they've always done.
And I would have him on more often.
He's so busy doing exactly what you just said that he was on last year.
He's real busy.
And these Afrikaans, I mean, they are tough, tough, tough, tough.
Because look at it.
I mean, where the family lives here that owns all this land, they're two hours away from any kind of emergency medical treatment.
So, I mean, they got their own medical kits, sutures or whatever.
One of the sons was, you know, you got to be tough or you're going to be stupid.
He was chopping wood barefoot, and the axe bounced off the wood and split his foot open.
I mean, about a four-inch gash is what it looked like.
Didn't cut any tendons or anything.
Just got to meet, so the mother just got her future kid and cleaned it out.
So did I go?
Yeah, I mean, what did any of us do before there were hospitals on every corner, you know, down in the modern world?
But I had to wear shoes.
Rich, before we run out of time, this segment, we got to go to Simon.
Let's get your beautiful wife on the phone.
Janice, it's not Valentine's Day yet, but she's not confined to that particular date.
Let's get her on and she can say hello when she's there.
I'm here.
Hey, Janice.
We had hoped to get to you sooner tonight, but time is flying with your husband telling these stories.
And I just wanted to ask you, your take on your Christmas in South Africa.
Did you ever think when you got married to Rich, you'd spend a Christmas?
Did you ever think in your life you'd spend a Christmas in South Africa?
Well, actually, this is our second Christmas.
The first time we came here, we were over Christmas.
I did not know that.
I think you'd been there before.
Yeah, yeah.
Our first time we came in for the day of the vow, and then we were through Christmas.
We didn't get home until January like 1st or 2nd.
But yeah, it's kind of different.
They don't celebrate Christmas as much as we do.
There's not no, you know, there's not a lot of decorations.
There's, you know, at the airport, there was Merry Christmas and a few stores I've seen Merry Christmas and stuff like that.
But they're really, it's weird, but they celebrate Boxing Day more than Christmas in most places around here.
That's interesting.
You know, I think that's a good question.
What have you said?
Give us your takeaways on this trip and what you think the audience needs to know about your last seven days there in South Africa.
Well, while we were in Craddock the last time, I got kind of separated from Richard and Simon, and they thought I had gone one place and I was just down two from where they were.
And they just left me.
Just left me.
They went to where they thought I was.
So I text Richard and says, where are you?
And I says, he told me there at the church.
I says, I'm coming that way.
And the sad thing is, is in this town that was probably definitely 75% black, I felt more safe walking down the street than I did in Nashville.
That's weird.
You know, in Nashville, you're just ready for somebody to try to snatch your purse or whatever.
And they just walk past you.
Now, I am positive that if things go south here, that that would not be the case.
But for right now, and you would see blacks and whites talking, very friendly to one another.
And, you know, things like that.
And so it's just kind of strange.
I don't think I would want to be in a big city.
And one thing Simon told us about Craddock is that it was the hotbed when all the trouble was going on before 1994.
That's where a lot of the necklacing and murders was going on was around the Craddock area, which is really weird because it doesn't seem to be that way.
And like I was in there, and they have, they had at least on a stretch of two blocks, had at least eight clothing stores.
You can't find that anywhere in the United States anymore, except for maybe a really big city.
I mean, all kinds of places to buy things, small stores.
There was no Walmart, yay.
I think Walmart has really killed a lot of our small businesses, like for clothing and housewares and stuff.
And so I like Richard.
I really enjoyed our visit yesterday up on the farm.
Yeah, it's kind of scary going up there.
I was on the outside going up, and I think going up is more dangerous.
You know, the, as they call it, truck a baki, which was kind of, it would kind of slip here and there on the stones.
And I mean, there is absolutely nothing on most parts of going up between you and falling, I don't know, more than 100 feet down.
Nothing.
Interesting testimony.
Feeling safer in South Africa than on the streets of Nash?
We'll be back.
We got to come back with Simon.
We're going to hear more from Rich and Judice in just a moment.
Already 30 minutes.
Judice, give that dog a bone, and we'll be right back in five minutes with everybody.
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And this now will be later this year, our 22nd year on the radio together.
You're all friends, you're all family.
And we've got friends and family on the air with us right now live in South Africa.
Even Simon Roche's guard dogs have been making a guest appearance on this particular program tonight.
The Hamblins, Rich and Janice, are in South Africa with Simon Roche, and they've been talking about their trip.
And of course, Simon, such a longtime guest on this program, he is the international spokesman for the Sightlanders Civil Defense Organization.
The purpose, of course, of that institution is to prepare a national emergency plan to safeguard the welfare of the white Boer South Afrikaners in a civil war.
And, well, you know that because Simon is not new to this show.
But it is a wonderful organization.
He's a wonderful spokesman.
We've spent so much time with him on the air and in person.
His travels around the world have intersected with our path many times in the past.
And he's back with us now in the 4 o'clock a.m. hour in South Africa.
Simon, welcome back.
How are you?
Thank you for having us.
Well, thank you for being with us at this unsightly and ungodly hour.
Well, I'll ask you, my friend, just to give us a quick update on the current situation in South Africa.
If 2026 brings with it any promise with the dawn of this new year.
But first, tell us a little bit about your week with the Hamlins.
They've been talking about it.
What has your experience been like with those two?
No, it's been very pleasant.
It's lovely to have them.
It's lovely to have them around.
Conversation, sitting in the sunshine, watching the sunrise and the sunset.
I live in a very scenic location, really a pretty place.
And it's just nice to sit on the stoop, the porch.
I have an enormous porch about 40 feet wide, I suppose.
And it looks onto the famous bamboo mountains of South Africa.
And to sit with the Hamlins and talk nonsense or discuss serious things, as the case may be, is just lovely.
It's pure heaven.
Well, no, they're great people.
You're a great guy.
When good people get together, it brightens my day.
And for us to all be together here on the radio tonight, very special because you're such a good friend, and so were they.
So that goes without saying.
But it should be mentioned that we are all together in this thing.
Now, Simon, that having been said, we're going to close the show tonight with both you and Rich together.
But let's just talk about that other question that I asked.
Are the prospects for whites in South Africa any brighter or dimmer as the dawn breaks on a brand new year?
Well, James, as you know, multiracial democracy in South Africa began in 1994.
On the 27th of April 1994, the first multiracial elections were held, and the African National Congress under Nelson Mandela won those elections handily.
And so we've been under the stewardship, if you like, of the African National Congress for the past 31 or going on for 32 years.
And I'm sorry to have to say it.
I would have liked it if it was otherwise.
I genuinely would have preferred it if this experiment had worked well.
It hasn't worked well.
Our national health service, our national health system is abysmal.
Our national education is atrocious.
Our administrative system is a basket case.
We're facing a water crisis at the moment, nationally.
Nothing works.
Nothing works well.
All of our little towns, South Africa, is famously composed of a number of cities and even metropolises, yes.
Largely of little towns about the size of a village.
We call them Dorps or Dorpis, and they are all in an atrocious condition.
Everything in South Africa is 30 years the worse off for African National Congress rule.
Therefore, the white people of South Africa have seen a huge decline.
The black people, too.
Black people have seen everything get worse.
And we whites likewise have just to witness our prospects deteriorate from being a first world country with first world countries' prospects to those of a third or a very poor third world country.
It's not good at all, James.
It's really not good.
Crime has gone through the roof.
It remains the case.
I recently hosted a German film team from the ARD channel group in Germany.
And I got into an argument with the hostess, the interviewer of that film team, and she insisted that the farm murder rate in South Africa is 228 per 100,000 per year.
I was saying, well, it's ever so slightly less than that.
But the point being that the supposed Northern Hemisphere experts, those who know best, I mean, how could we possibly know what's going on in our own country insist that the farm murder, that is to say, the murder rate of white South African commercial farmers is 228 per 100,000 per year.
That's how the United Nations measures it.
And the death rate of Canadian loggers, I looked this up, is 99.7 per 100,000 per year.
In other words, it's by more than double the most dangerous occupation on earth is to be a white South African farmer.
We're getting slaughtered.
It's dangerous.
It's difficult.
Our towns and villages have been slaughtered.
There's a water crisis.
There's an electricity crisis.
If you're not educating your children at home, there's an education crisis.
And so the list goes on.
Excuse me for the long-winded answer, James.
Well, let me tell you: this is Keith.
Sounds like what they used to say about Lyndon Johnson's war on poverty.
They said the poverty won.
It sounds like that's what's happened in South Africa as well.
What is happening regarding the refugee resettlement efforts of Trump?
Is anybody taking advantage of that or not?
Keith, not really.
There have been some numbers.
And recently, the American Embassy hosted a sort of an open day on the 16th of December, which is our day of the vow.
That's the day that we celebrate on which the Afrikaner folk fought a very famous battle, the Battle of Blood River, which they prevailed against an overwhelming force.
A British observer observed and recorded that the Zulus were 36,000 and the Afrikaners were 464.
And the Afrikaners didn't suffer one single fatality in that great battle, battle whereby they prayed for nine days, for nine, nine days of prayer to the living god that if he should give them that battle, they should remember it eternally.
464 against 38,000 and on that day of the vow, the American Embassy set up an open day in a field near Pretoria inviting Afrikaners to apply for refugee status or asylum and the South African government promptly sent in a bunch of customs and immigration and
staff and police force to to break it up.
So you can determine for yourself that it's a very contentious thing, terribly contentious thing, that the United States Of America should dare to offer refugee status to South African need to keep an eye on what's happening in Venezuela that may be happening to the South African government.
If they rub Trump, all right, we're gonna actually pick up there.
I don't know about that, but we will get Simon's take on that because there is a connection with BRICS and the rumored, the rumored, the rumor that Venezuela wanted to be a part of that economic coalition.
Take a break Simon Roche and Rich Hamlin together in our last segment.
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We're going to do it again, folks.
If God wills it and your support holds out the very first show of another year together, all the different things we do from now until Christmas again, 12 months from now.
We're going to try to do it again.
That's from the Beach Boys Sounds of Summer, and it is summertime where our friends Rich and Janine are joining us tonight from South Africa, along with Simon Roche and Simon of the civil defense organization Sightlanders.
Be sure to check out their work and support them.
It's one of a kind.
He goes all over the world, was in Russia not too long ago, and he's always with us to give us updates and has been to the United States so many times.
And while Keith was asking a question that is going to dominate the show next week, we talk about our extensive bench here of guests, and it's a luxury to be able to look at all the people who have expertise in certain issues and then plug and play each week, depending on what the topic may be.
And next week, we're going to have former government contractor Patrick Martin on to talk about Venezuela along with the geopolitical analyst Jose Niño, who is of Venezuelan heritage himself.
That's going to be an interesting show, show number two, next week of this year.
But Simon, you know, there is a South Africa connection here, and that being so much as BRICS is, of course, the economic political coalition made up of Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa.
Those were the original members, but it's now expanded to include Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, Indonesia, and the United Arab Emirates.
It was rumored that Venezuela was looking to join that coalition, and then now what happened today happened.
What is the take of you personally and perhaps of whites in South Africa generally on the action that the United States took today in kidnapping Maduro and his wife and taking them to New York to stand trial on domestic laws here in the United States?
Very weird.
Yeah, I think that it's sure, it's all playing out.
I think that we're seeing the developments or the manifestations of political currents that have been coming for a long, long time.
BRICS poses an enormous threat to dollar hegemony.
Any of your listeners who've been following this thing closely will understand that it is a big thing that Saudi Arabia and China are beginning to transact oil sales in one and in gold.
The bullion warehouse that has been built by the Chinese in Saudi Arabia is a big thing.
The bullion warehouse that has been built on the island of Hong Kong in recent months is a big thing.
There is a sea change in economic relationships throughout the world.
A sea change that is explicitly intended to circumvent the dollar.
We're seeing the Chinese dump U.S. dollar debt treasuries.
We're seeing the Japanese and Scott Besant having screaming matches by all accounts over Japanese willingness to buy dollars.
It's a very complicated, enormous Picture or scene that is unfolding at the moment.
And Venezuela, of course, as your listeners, the more mainstream Americans, of course, wouldn't know, but I don't know.
I don't have to go into detail with your listeners over the fact that, of course, this has nothing to do with narco-trafficking because the narco-trafficking routes are to the west of Venezuela and involve Colombia and Mexico and have nothing to do with Venezuela.
This is all about TAR TOM.
Well, we do know that Maduro, the Madero government is explicitly anti-white.
Well, I mean, I would just say to Simon's point here, what he's articulating is this consensus of, I think, most in our circles.
David Zuddy articulated a very interesting and very intelligent counterpoint to that.
But I think most people in our circles are going to see it the way that Jose and Padrick see it next week.
And I would just ask, before I don't want to run the risk of running out of time, and I certainly want to be able to say goodnight to Janice.
But I mean, Rich, I know that you've taken interest in this.
You're on the other side of the world, so you're not plugged in as you would be at home.
Nobody can be when they're on vacation, especially that far away.
And all of this is happening.
There's been a lot of half-baked hot takes today on this online and elsewhere because it is so new.
It is developing.
But I mean, what would be your initial reaction to this, Rich?
It's sheer disgust is what it is.
I mean, Trump is just lying out of both sides of his mouth.
And I mean, he's going after Maduro and going to indict him.
I mean, for God's sake, I mean, you know, they're all over Pooja's case because he invaded the Donbass, you know, secure the rights of the people.
That's a good point.
Good point.
The EU is absolutely silent over what Trump's doing.
And the president Trump has said, I mean, he's even threatened Colombia too, in his statement.
I didn't hear all his statements.
Colombia, Cuba, elsewhere.
Well, that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I mean, if you look at Ruby, Rubio threatens Cuba, I think.
So Rubio and Hedgehog and those other idiots are part of the driving force behind this.
But I don't, you know, it makes me call into question his cognitive ability.
He doesn't seem to have the ability to think out the consequences of his actions.
And what do you think is really motivating him?
What do you think is really motivating?
He wants Venezuelan oil, and then he and Israel are going to take on Iran.
You know, Rich, listen, I think David Zuddy gave a good presentation in the first hour.
When we had David Zutty booked, I had him booked to talk about Amfest and the TPUSA Amfest, and then we pivoted and repurposed because of this being in the news.
And I didn't know exactly what he was going to say, but he took a different point of view and how this could potentially serve our interest.
And it was interesting, although I think I have to agree with you that this is what this is really, I mean, I think it's just the obvious answer is probably the correct one.
And I think it's going to be the take that Padrick and Jose take next week.
And most of our people will, although David did make an interesting case.
I don't discount that.
But yeah, I think they're going to take the oil and go after Iran.
I think that would be the smart money would be on that bet.
And the other thing is they're depriving China of China's one of the principal buyers of Venezuelan oil.
He's been seizing tankers.
I mean, that's an act of piracy.
You know, we went to war against the Barbary pirates for that in 1800 under Jefferson.
Yeah, this is it.
Right, but oil wasn't involved.
But, well, but you can't have it both ways, Keith.
I mean, you know, it's also the goose and sauce for the gander.
And what's going to happen when Trump's gone?
I mean, he can't, you know, he doesn't have more than, he's in the second year of his second term, and he's left.
You know that Miriam Adelson has dedicated, has said that she is thrown into the pot $250 million for him to try to get a third term.
I think it's crazy.
But, you know, Jewish money, Jewish money talks and B.S. Walks.
Yeah, well, we know who owns the country and we know how much you can buy a present for.
Now, the world is pretty obvious to the world, but it is setting a terrible precedent.
He talks about rules-based order and all this kind of crap.
And it's, you know, rules for me or rules for thee and not for me.
That's basically what they're saying.
And all I worry about.
Rules-based order was basically a Democrat thing, wasn't it?
Well, and then in any event, we're just getting started.
We're out of time when we just really get started here now.
I mean, now we're really getting into it.
I said he's into the new year.
Why don't we just start here and go another three hours?
But we're out of time.
I want to thank you, Richard, Janice, and Simon for coming on.
It didn't seem like we had nearly enough time, especially trying to work three people in.
And the dogs and the dogs.
Those are Simon's guard dogs, by the way, folks.
But we got to say goodbye to the prettiest of the trio.
Janice, we want to let you have the final word of our first show.
We're going to continue this conversation, and it's going to really get hot next week, I think, with our guests as we sort of get into the take on Venezuela that Rich is articulating and Simon too.
But Janice, we want to say goodnight to you and let you have the final word.
And I don't know if y'all are going to go back to bed now or what's up, but I hope you enjoyed the rest of your trip and get back to Tennessee safe and sound very soon.
Well, Venezuela, I can say that I am very, very ashamed of my government because it's not the people.
Our government does not listen to us.
I call Marsha Blackburn and the other guy, Bill Haggerty, and my rep, all the time.
They don't listen.
They don't care.
And the whole thing is, is I've come to the conclusion that voting does not count at all in the United States.
They're going to put in what low life they want to put in.
Janice is the hardest of the hardcore.
Man or woman, there's nobody more hardcore than Janice that comes on.
I was bringing her on to say goodnight.
You see where she goes?
That's why we love her.
She's always.
She's tough as a nickel stain.
She is great.
She's all of that.
I do appreciate you guys giving us the call.
And good night and have a good evening.
Hey, good trip.
Happy New Year.
I wish we could have gone a full three hours with y'all.
Y'all were ready, but 2 a.m. would have been too much.
2 a.m. to 5 a.m. is a little bit too ambitious even for this particular collective.
But thank y'all for waking up so early and being on.
My best to Simon and his incredible, heroic work with the Sightlanders organization, to Rich and Janice, our friends from right here in Tennessee, and our other guests tonight.
And Happy New Year to all of you.
Amen.
And all the best to our white brothers and sisters in South Africa for Harry Cooper in the second hour, David Zetty the first.
Next week, Patrick Martin.
Next week, Jose Nino.
We're going to have a big show in Venezuela.
A week from now, we'll have a lot more clarity as well.