Jan. 4, 2026 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Well, welcome back, everybody.
The whole plan to just ease in to 2026 sort of got blown away when Caracas got blown up last night.
We had to work in more pressing issues to the forefront during that first hour.
But we're still going to go down to South Africa in the next hour there standing by.
It'll be 4 a.m. when we get in touch, 4 a.m. in the Eastern Cape of South Africa.
When we get in touch the next hour with Rich and Janice Hamblin and our good friend Simon Roche of the Sightlanders organization, the civil defense organization down there, that's still coming up live from the scene in South Africa on this, our first show of the new year in the third hour, but right now.
Back with us tonight to really sort of crystallize my vision for just a nice, easy show before we really get back to work this year.
Harry Cooper.
Harry Cooper, the president of Shark Hunters, he's back tonight.
I mean, a lot of times when Harry's on, we sort of go back through the whole history of the organization.
You know that Shark Hunters is an organization that exists to tell the history of the U-boats without propaganda and to bring former enemies together as friends.
We're not going to go so much into the history and the founding of the organization and the evolution of it because if you don't know who Harry Cooper is, you must be new.
And that's okay.
That's okay.
But you can go back into our broadcast archives and get some of those more point-by-point interviews about Shark Hunters with its founder and president, Harry Cooper.
Tonight, I just wanted, and this our first show of the year, to just have him back, well, for a couple of reasons.
Number one, it's never, he's never out of season.
And every time he's on, people just love these stories.
And I just said, Harry, come on tonight and regale us with some more stories about your personal friendships and interactions with the German World War II veterans.
And that's what he's going to do tonight.
Happy New Year to you, Harry.
Great to be talking to you still in 2026 after all these years.
Same here, my friend.
We've got a lot more years ahead of us.
Amen to that.
It's already been more than two decades that Harry and I have been friends and collaborators.
And this was, of course, just last month.
Harry, as you know, you were last on the last Saturday of November, which kicked off our Christmas season programming here on TPC.
And you were on to announce one of the incentives for our Christmas fundraising drive.
And for the third time in four years for the Christmas fundraising drive, we are featuring or did feature a book from Shark Hunters, Memories from the Front.
And for everybody who donated at the appropriate level, they'll be getting that.
And they'll be getting it soon.
Now, Harry ordered all of these books in advance back in November, and they are scheduled to be delivered next week.
Hey, that's what the United States Postal Service can do for you, folks.
A month and a half, but we're going to get them and we're going to get them all out next week.
Before we get to story time with Harry this hour, remind everybody what they'll be getting.
The book itself, Hidden Secrets of World War II, I don't recall which version you got because we've got four versions of that.
We've got a lot of books out.
U-boat, stories by the men who rode the boats.
Each chapter is a different story in that.
We got 18 of those books.
Hitler's Escape, we've got four volumes in that series.
One is his escape.
Another is the reason how it was so easy to assimilate thousands and thousands of Germans, Italians, Croatians, etc., etc., into South America.
We got three volumes on the Flyboys called When Eagles Soared, various other books.
And my newest book just was published about 6 o'clock this morning.
I got word from the publisher.
It's called Gas Stations on the High Seas.
We all see the movies that the Type 7 U-boats, the so-called Wolfpack boats, are out there.
They're attacking convoys, et cetera, et cetera.
We don't bother to realize it ain't like the American submarines.
The American submarines would fill up with fuel, water, food, etc., in Hawaii or Brisbane, wherever, and go out for three months, attack Japanese shipping, etc.
The Type 7s and even the long-range Type 9s for some of their long, long patrols, they didn't have the range.
So this book details over a thousand times when U-boats had to refuel.
A U-boat would go out on patrol, and then there's word there's a convoy over at such and such area, so they'd meet up with refuelers out on the high seas, and then they'd go and attack the convoy and refuel again to get home.
And this book just came out.
It's a large 8.5 by 11 book, 335, I think, photos in it, and stuff people you'll never find anywhere else.
We've got 300.
Right.
Say again?
Well, I was just going to say all the books, all the DVDs, the signed prints.
I know people have just gone wild over those the last couple of years.
We've been offering those signed prints from the men of history, their portrait, their hand signature.
All of these people have been gathered under their fathers by now.
They're all their eternal patrol, as Harry puts it.
But he got to know so many of them.
And yes, we have offered the books on the U-boats, the books on the Luftwaffe.
This book was actually Memories from the Front that we offered this most recent Christmas, which was the SS guys.
Yeah.
And nevertheless, they will be getting out to everyone who contributed at that particular level next week.
They're scheduled to be delivered in a couple of days, and we're going to get them all out on the same day.
We've got the packages ready to go.
We just got to slip those in there, and we're getting them out as soon as we could.
Harry ordered them the day after Thanksgiving.
It's taken a month and a half to get here.
It's supposed to be there Monday.
That's the delivery date we got, Monday.
I think they walked there from the publisher.
They walked them.
They didn't mail them.
They walked them there.
Well, you know, I thought that your publishing house, the printer you used, must be on that Nazi base on the far side of the moon.
It's in the Gutenberg Press.
Yeah, the Gutenberg Press, right?
Now, they're actually in South Carolina, so to get from South Carolina to you, taking all this time, I don't know.
Well, it's not unusual.
And we ordered a bunch of books from Philip DeWinter.
Now, granted, he is in Belgium, but it took two months for those to get here.
When that box got delivered back in the springtime, that was for our first quarter fundraiser.
It looked like, you know, those trucks, Keith, the monster trucks, Bigfoot, and Gravedigger.
It looked like they'd used the box as like the thing from Bigfoot to Rover.
But anyway, we got them out.
The books were still.
But nevertheless, I just wanted to let people know: if you donated at Christmas time, the book is going to be in Memphis this week, and we're going to get them all out on the same day.
You'll have them.
If God wills it and Jesus tears, you'll have them by next week's show if you live here.
If you lived abroad a little bit longer, but we're going to get them all out next week.
And I want to thank you again for that, Harry.
Now, that having been said and established, just very quickly, and then for the remaining three segments of this hour, before we go to South Africa in our final hour of this first show of 2026.
I've been to Southern Africa.
Yeah, well, it's summer time.
Beautiful country.
The government right now is a little questionable, but it's like a shrunk-down United States.
It's magnificent, beautiful country.
I've seen a lot of pictures of it this week from our friends who are down there, and you're not kidding.
It's just absolutely well, that's why the white people wanted to stay down there.
They love it there.
But nevertheless, Harry, the remaining three segments, we're going to get out of your way.
We're just going to listen to you tell stories about the people you've met, just some of your greatest remembrances.
It's just full-on, no agenda, story time with Harry Cooper.
But just very quickly, back to that particular book.
It's the first volume of Memories from the Front.
What are the people going to get?
What are they going to be reading next week when they finally get delivered?
Well, Memories from the Front, four volumes in that one.
You've got the first one you ordered.
Now, we have to understand the Waffen-SS is not the same as the Allgemeiner SS.
People think SS, they think the black uniform guys, the camp guards, and no, no, that's the Allgemeiner.
These are the Waffen-SS, which are the combat troops.
They were the toughest combat troops of the war.
They were basically the Green Berets of Germany.
And they were just hardcore dedicated.
They suffered the worst losses of any land forces.
And they were, geez, the atrocities that the Soviet troops and the worst yet, Tito's partisans, they would not take prisoners.
They would take prisoners, but then there were so many times they would strip the guys naked, tie them with barbed wire, and shove them into a mine pit that was 400 feet deep.
That's in the book.
And just tens of thousands of these guys were murdered after they had surrendered.
And, you know, just it gives you a whole different picture of who wore the black hats and who wore the white hats.
There wasn't any white hats.
Well, he got the chance.
This man, Harry Cooper, he probably became friends with more German veterans than any American, alive or dead.
And that's what his work with Shark Hunters has been about, to bring old enemies together as friends.
He's going to share some of his stories.
Story time with Harry Cooper, some of his greatest remembrances this first show of the new year.
Stay tuned.
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Praised by the former Admiral Frank Kelso, the former Chief Naval Officer of the United States Navy, he writes that Harry Cooper's books tell the gripping story of the war at sea.
He's talking about his U-Boat series.
In the words of those who lived and died in the submarines and those who hunted the submarines.
That old enemies became friends is the real story of this book.
None could have thought 50 years ago that this book would have ever been printed or that such mortal enemies could relate grim stories of the war in a book written together.
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Sharkhunters made that happen.
Admiral Kelso, who is also on his Eternal Patrol now, wrote, at the time, I found the stories of great interest and recommend them to those who would like to know how the war at sea was fought.
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This book reveals how it took place scene by scene and the courage and bravery of the men who participated on both sides.
I recommend it as reading as a reminder to never again get enveloped in such a conflict.
Sharkhunters.org is where you're going to want to go for his entire catalog of books, but that's not what we're here to talk about tonight.
That having been said, the rest of this hour is yours, Harry.
You have put together countless, and I mean dozens upon dozens, of trips to Germany, both your northern patrols and northern Germany, your southern patrol and southern Germany.
You have brought together so many over the years, and almost all of them are gone now, but shark hunters has been in existence for several decades.
And so, you know, you go back several years.
40 years ago, there are a lot of German veterans still alive.
You brought American veterans, German veterans together to tour Germany together, to eat and break bread together.
My friend, I'm out of your way the rest of this hour.
Just share with us any stories you want, some of the most profound moments you've experienced with these different men, some of the men you've met in their homes you've stayed, wherever you want to go.
Take it, Harry.
Okay.
Yeah, and if your listeners want to get a little more information, go to sharkhunters.com, not dot org, sharkhunters.com.
Or send an email also, sharkhunters at sharkhunters.com and say you heard us on the show.
And I'll send you the current issue of our magazine, Electronically, No Charge.
As to our gatherings.
Yeah, I had a buddy who was a paratrooper from the 82nd Airborne, and he used to put together annual conventions where they would go and jump out of airplanes with different countries.
And I thought, well, I'm not going to jump out of an airplane, but let's have conventions where the guys who fought each other can get together.
So I called the first one in February 1987.
in Key Largo, Florida.
I wanted to get out of the snow because I lived in Chicago at the time.
We had 11 U-boat veterans show up.
Three of them were skippers.
One was a Knights Cross holder.
That was Hans Georg Hess.
He was also the youngest combat submarine commander probably ever in history.
Four months past his 21st birthday, they gave him a combat submarine and told him, go on out and die for your country.
This was in August of 44.
The war only had a few more months to go.
Germany was getting destroyed at every level.
And U-boats, usually nine out of ten at that point in time, nine out of ten, did not come home from their very first war patrol.
They went out and got killed.
He made five war patrols, sank some ships, and he became my best friend in Germany.
He became a doctor of law after the war was over.
And when he was 87 years old, the official TV station in Germany had a guy, I forgot his name, but he was a doctor of philosophy or something like that.
Came out with a very harsh program against the German military guys.
So my friend Hess brought a lawsuit against that guy and against ZDF, which is the TV station.
And by sheer coincidence, he died a week later.
He had a heart attack and died.
No other reason than he just had a heart attack and died.
Baloney.
But he was one of the ones I met.
Awesome guy.
He came over here a couple of times when we had conventions here.
At the end of the Key Largo convention, he had such a good time.
He says, you must come next year to old Germany.
And I thought, well, I've never been out of the U.S. Except to the Bahamas where I live on my boat.
But why not go to Germany?
We had 50 people come with us over to Germany, and they rolled out the red carpet.
I mean, these were horrible, evil Nazis.
That's what we were told, because I was a kid during the war years.
And certain people still have that impression of them.
And I won't mention the Spitlickers by name.
But they were just no different than anybody else.
They were decent, honorable, professional warriors.
We had hundreds of the U-boaters come out, and we had a couple of evenings where we had big festivals in the room, the gathering room of a hotel that was run by a Knights Cross-winning submarine commander.
Probably the most well-known of the people that I knew was Otto Kratchmer.
I had read about him when I was a kid in high school.
And I met him over in Germany.
He invited me to his home.
He and his wife were just super.
They became really good friends.
They said I was a member of the family.
I had a sleeping room in the Kretschmer house, the greatest submarine commander of the war.
And I was a member of his family.
Unfortunately, he died 5th of August 1998.
He and his wife were on a river cruise on the Donile River, which is the Danube River once it crosses over into Austria.
It just changes the name.
But he slipped going down a stairwell, fell down, cracked his head, never regained consciousness.
Two days later, he died in the hospital.
And when I found out, I called his wife.
She was so, so destroyed that her silent Otto was dead.
And then she said, He loved you, Harry, and he knew you loved him.
And he's right.
A great man.
I loved him like a father.
Erastop, the third most successful skipper, if you count by number of ships, if you count by tonnage, he was the fourth.
I visited his home outside of Raymagen many times.
And I was in his architect study because he was an architect for a little while after the war before he went back into the Bundeswarina.
And we're looking out the window.
He says, Harry, here you see the famous seven hills.
I said, Eric, I thought they were in Rome.
He says, no, you Americans know these seven hills as sleepy, dopey, grumpy, dock, etc.
He said, this is where the legend of Snow White was born.
And that's right.
The brothers Grimm, every place you go.
There's another town where I used to go visit with a good friend who was not a U-boater.
His father was a major in an Einsatz group.
But he lived in a town, Schwarzenborn, near, what the heck is the other one?
Near gone blank.
But anyhow, every year they have a celebration for Rotcapsen, Red Cape, or as we know, Little Red Riding Hood.
That's where that legend came from.
Germany is a magnificent country.
We say you cannot take a bad photograph, you cannot get a bad meal, and you cannot get a bad beer in Germany.
I don't know about the beer because I'm not a very good Irishman.
I don't drink beer.
Never drank beer, and I gave up drinking anything long time ago.
Most of your listeners hadn't been born last time I got drunk.
But we're going to go to Germany again this year.
It'll be the last week of September, first week of October.
We get there on the day Oktoberfest begins.
Most people think Oktoberfest is in October.
It's not.
It's in September.
It ends on the first weekend in October.
But we go there, and it's a place everybody should go once in their life.
It's the world's biggest beer party, they say.
Each one of those huge, huge tents they have, they hold about 6,000 people, and they probably squeeze in about 10,000.
I mean, you are elbow to elbow and jammed up, and everybody is drinking beer.
I drink Coke in those big one-liter glasses.
And each tent is for a different Munich beer.
Only Munich beers are displayed there.
And each one has a monster big umbra band on a stage that's hanging above everybody.
And each one is trying to out-drown the tent next door.
And I think it was the last time we were there, which was a couple of years ago.
We missed last year.
But this beautiful young lady up on the overhead stage, and she was singing, and the band was playing.
And, okay, she got a break.
I think a half-hour break.
And I'm sitting there at my table.
All of a sudden, who's sitting right next to me?
It was the girl that was singing.
Out of 6,000 people, she wound up sitting next to me.
Well, I've met you.
I can understand why, but we're going to take a quick break.
Stay tuned.
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We are having Harry Cooper back on tonight to kick off our 2026 year of programming.
Well, for a couple of reasons, we always like to have Harry on.
And number two is we owe a lot of people copies of this book, Memories from the Front, and we wanted to give you an update on that and to let you know that those who contributed at the appropriate level of those books will be finally delivered to Memphis next week and they will go out immediately to you.
And so they are en route.
And we are using this program right now as our conference call to those donors to let you know that we have not forgotten you.
Sometimes the mail moves slow.
I like having all incentive gifts in hand before we even kick off one of the quarterly fundraising drives.
But alas, that is not always possible.
But what is possible is hardly ever possible for us to be sure that they all get to you.
And we always do that.
We never stop until we do.
Well, that being said, we're talking to Harry Cooper about some of his remembrances.
Harry, as he has told the story so many times before on this program over the years, he grew up thinking that everything that he's read about World War II was true, that the German soldiers were evil and our sworn and mortal enemy.
And then it just so happened, and he's gone through the whole story before, and you can find it in the archives.
We're not going to do it again tonight, but he did start to meet them.
And not only did he meet them, those relationships grew and evolved.
And for the last 40 years plus, Shark Hunters has been bringing old enemies together as friends.
And he's talked about these reunions where people who, in some instances, were even engaged in battle against one another on the field and had taken shots at each other.
And they found each other at the Shark Hunters reunions.
It is just an incredible thing.
And when he's talking about, you know, he was rattling off, folks, some of the names of some of these.
Typically, yes, Shark Hunters has been sort of oriented with the U-boat WAFA.
But also, Harry has written books, as you mentioned, with the Luftwaffe and on the ground troops as well.
But when he's saying names like Eric Topp and people like that, Otto Kretschmer, you know, that would be like saying, you know, I was at Douglas Mark Arthur's house or Audi Murphy's house or Alvin York's house.
I mean, it's basically the equivalent, the U-boat equivalent, two people like that that you would know here from American military lore.
And anyway, that having been said, Harry, tell us a story then about one of those reunions where people that had fought against each other in the war actually came many, many, many years later to become friends through your organization.
Our first convention, 1987, February, like I say, I used to drink.
That's when I quit drinking, was right after this convention.
But I was sitting at the bar, Key Largo, drinking piña coladas.
And on my right was Hans Georg Hess, the youngest submarine commander of any country probably ever in history.
And on my left was what the hell, his last name was Ray, Ray Lankheim.
And the two guys were talking across my face while I was busily wiping out more piña coladas.
Well, what was your area?
Well, that was my area.
When were you there?
Well, that's the same time I was there.
And then Hess said, wait, the number on your destroyer, because Hess was a German and Ray Lankheim was an American.
Hess said, the number on your destroyer was such and such.
And Ray says, how did you know that?
And Hess said, on such and such a day, I fired two torpedoes at your ship, but somebody must have seen the torpedoes because your ship changed course and the torpedoes missed.
And Ray pops up and says, Yeah, I remember.
And he named the lookout.
He says, Yeah, I remember that so-and-so told us, yelled that the torpedoes were coming, and we swerved out of the way.
And so he got a little arrogant.
He said, So you missed, Captain.
What do you think about that?
And Hess slammed his big fist down on the bar.
Well, I'm glad we missed.
We have more time for beer now.
And so the two of them got to be best buddies across the oceans.
We even had a young lady.
I won't mention her name because she was with us on many, many trips, and she's still a valued member.
But she was with us one time in Germany, in North Germany, with her husband.
And she was a young, gorgeous young lady.
And she got infatuated with a U-boat skipper, but not from the war, but a new Navy U-boat commander who was about, she was like about 28 years old.
He was about 35.
And the next thing you know, every place we went, they weren't there.
And she was gone with him for three days.
And her husband just was happy sitting at the bar.
We had other friends who I just got an email from one of the gals who travels with us, a girl named Christy.
She thanked me for having all these conventions where she met so many wonderful friends.
that she never would have met.
Another one, Leslie, she goes over to South Germany and she meets up with Jeff, who's an incredibly knowledgeable guy on the bunkers and tunnels that the Germans built in Bavaria.
And the two of them go bunker hunting and they're finding bunkers and stuff that people haven't seen since 1945.
So it's friendship like that.
Another one, Dog up in Norway, he was at several of our gatherings and the people got friends.
So Leslie and Jeff and a couple others went up to stay with him in Norway for a week or so some years ago.
It just, I don't make any money at this.
I don't get a salary.
I'm living on my Social Security and that's it.
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But I wouldn't, I couldn't see me doing this, anything else but this.
This is, I don't mean to sound sappy, this is what God put me on the earth to do.
Prior to doing shark hunters, I was a young executive moving up and I hopped from company to company and I made a lot of money.
But when this door opened up, I started in 1983 and then I met my wife in 1985.
We got married two weeks after our first date.
You know that story, James, because you've been with us here a few times.
Of course.
And one day I came home from my job.
I was vice president of a company.
My wife was the manager of the marina where we lived on my boat outside of Chicago in the summers.
And I came, walked into her office.
It was about 11 o'clock in the morning on the 31st of July, 1987.
And she said, what are you doing home so early?
I said, I just quit my job.
We're going to move to Florida and do shark hunters full-time.
She said, are you nuts?
Have you forgotten I'm pregnant?
Where's the insurance?
Where's the security?
I said, I don't know, but it has to be done.
So we don't take a salary.
I work.
I'm at my desk, as you know, because you get emails from me.
I'm at my desk by 4 o'clock in the morning.
And I go until, well, 8 o'clock is when I usually knock off.
And I'm in bed by 9.
So, and I do it six days a week.
Sunday, I try not to work because I know God says, remember the Sabbath and keep it holy.
But I also know that God put me here to do this work.
And so I read the Bible, then I apologize to God for working on Sunday, and I keep doing his work here.
Well, it's an important work because if you're a listener of this program, you know that we want there to never be another Brothers' War.
We were talking just in December about how, you know, every white people lost World War II.
Both sides were losers in that.
75 million white people were killed.
And we never want there to be another brothers' war.
And by bringing these old warriors together, I mean, most of them, almost all of them are gone now, but it is still a good case study and how that can occur.
And you've put the work in to do that.
And you've met so many of these people.
And just to say, it's not about the Germans, James.
It's not only the Germans.
Because Ronald Reagan was a member of Shark Hunters, and I only found this out later through one of our spies.
He and Gorbachev had become halfway passable friends.
He told Gorbachev to invite me over to the Soviet Union when it was still the USSR.
And I didn't know any of this.
I just got a fax one day, no emails back then, inviting me over to Moscow.
I had no idea what was going on.
And they treated me like a king.
They put me up in a two-bedroom apartment for two weeks.
I was special.
I had toilet paper.
Not a roll, but eight squares of toilet paper on the sink.
And my host there, I guess, is a lifelong old friend now, Anatoly.
And he was a high-ranking GRU guy, which is Navy intelligence.
And he sent me an email a couple days ago.
He's going to unload all the secrets he knew of the Soviet Union, and we're going to do that into more books.
I met Putin, Vladimir Putin, he's not a madman.
He's a Russian patriot.
He's putting, quietly put in through laws, anti-homosexual laws, and some other laws.
He's not a madman.
He's a hardcore Russian patriot.
Hold on right there.
One more segment with Harry Cooper.
How are we already at the end of this hour?
Harry's regaling us in storytelling a life.
Time flies when you're having fun.
A life like none of them I've ever heard live.
Hey, friends, it's James.
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Hi, I'm Dave.
I'm seven years old.
I'm sitting here in the corner having a timeout until mom comes to talk to me.
All I did was cut my sister's hair.
I was just trying to help.
I guess mom didn't like how I did it.
In a minute, she'll be back and ask me if I know what I did.
It was wrong.
Maybe I shouldn't have cut her hair.
And she'll say we all make mistakes because we're just learning about stuff.
And she'll give me a hug and we'll end up talking about more stuff.
No matter what you talk to your kids about, love is what they'll hear.
I really like mom's timeouts.
I think she likes them too.
Yeah, I think they help her remember how much she loves me.
A thought from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Visit us at mormon.org. Sharkhunters.com.
I said.org earlier.
You know, you would think as many times as I've been there in my life, I don't have to do anything on my computer.
My computer remembers it.
I just type in SH in the search bar and it automatically comes up.
So I don't look at that extension quite as often.
But sharkhunters.com to join up and to make some purchases.
You cannot get these signed prints, these signed photographs of these warriors from anywhere else.
Harry was with them when they signed these things so many years ago, and he had enough foresight to get a lot of them to keep them in inventory.
And we have been eating into that inventory for years here.
And so many people all over the world have gotten them through TPC, you know, via Shark Hunters, through Shark Hunters, via TPC, I guess.
And I've seen them framed.
You buy beautiful frames, folks.
You put them up on your walls in your study, in your office.
I've seen them.
And it was a pleasure again by audience demand to team up with Harry last Christmas, last month, this most recent Christmas fundraising drive to do it a third time in four years.
And anyway, Harry, another story that you've told so many times is when you lose the war, you don't quite get to celebrate your camaraderie and the fact that you served as the winning side does.
There's no VFWs in Germany, or there never have been for the veterans of World War II.
No American legions, no place where they can go to and have that sense of togetherness.
If they do it at all, if they did it at all when they were alive, they had to do it very underground, very secretly.
You gave them a chance to, well, just to tell their stories again through your countless volumes of books.
And look at this.
You gave them back their dignity.
That's what registers most with me.
And they told me this.
We gave them back their dignity.
Well, they realized.
Let me ask you.
Well, pardon this interruption.
You gave them back their dignity, yes.
I mean, through these books, they were able to tell their stories.
You got to know these people.
And I know we've talked about this before, and you can answer this question generally and then get into maybe a specific incident that comes to mind or a specific memory that comes to mind.
What were these men like?
I mean, you know, what was their honor like?
What was their demeanor like?
Were they normal, friendly, you know, everyday guys?
What were these veterans like?
Once they realized that we were not Nazis or Nazi hunters and that I was a historian, they just networked me with everybody.
And I love dealing with these guys because a handshake was a contract and their word was never broken.
They were honorable, just like our vets.
I knew a lot of our vets.
Admiral Flecky, the most highly decorated American submariner ever in history.
He was a guest in my house.
Ned Beach, who wrote Run Silent, Run Deep, and so many others.
These guys, a handshake was a contract.
And I just love dealing with them because you never have to wonder, unlike the Chinese, I brought a group over to China one time.
The CIA asked me to do this and take pictures.
The Chinese, nice, polite, wonderful people.
They look you right in the eye and they'll lie to your face and they know that you know that they're lying and they keep right on lying.
I would never trust them at all.
The Germans.
The camp people.
Yes.
Well, as you said, I mean, you know, once they figure out you're not a Nazi hunter, you don't mean them any harm.
There's a bond between us and the Germans and not with us and the Chinese.
Well, that's true, too.
Let me ask you this, Harry.
I got to ask this.
I mean, I know the answer, but you are very young in spirit, but you got a few miles on the odometer.
How old are you now, Harry?
Do I get a prize if I guess right?
I was born one day after the German troops marched into Poland.
And the day after I was born, France and England declared war against Germany.
So you're in the 10th of 1995.
I was born.
That was 1939, right?
So you're in your 50s now.
No, I'm just kidding.
In my 50s.
I just turned 86.
You at 86, my friend, have more vigor, more brain power, more processing capabilities.
And this is just another reason because one day when we're all on our eternal patrol, we won't be able to tell these stories again.
You know, I'm going to see you in heaven one day, and I don't want to ever say, you know, Harry, when I had that radio show back on Earth all those years, I wish I'd had you on more to tell more stories because I'm telling you, folks, there's nobody that could tell these stories like Harry.
That's just another reason.
Whenever we have a chance, I love to get him back on the air.
And I hope we have, you know, you've been doing this work since you were 46, and I hope you're doing it when you're, you know, 126.
And the way you go, you may very well make it that far.
But no, listen, every time we have you on our stories.
I had this conversation with Herbert Werner, the guy who wrote that book, Iron Coffins, very famous.
We were together at our sub-base at Kings Bay because he wanted to look at the big giant submarines we had.
But since he was not a natural-born U.S. citizen, he couldn't get access to the base.
But the two-star admiral in command was a member of Shark Hunters.
So I got him a tour on board one of our big boomers.
He wanted to build 1,200-foot-long submarines to take the oil from the north slope of Alaska, bring it under the ice pack to New Jersey.
So anyhow, he and I were having dinner.
This was some years ago, of course, and I said something about I was middle-aged.
He says, you're 55.
You think you're going to be 110?
I said, yep, count on it.
So that's how I figured I'm going to be 110.
If I put Harry down, I'll die quickly.
So I ain't slowing down.
Well, there is some truth to that.
You hear all the time when people retire, they just die.
I don't know what it is.
There's got to be something biologically in play there.
But it is true.
But you were not slowing down.
And of course, Keith, as you'll remember, Harry was one of our star speakers at TPC's 20th.
I would say last year.
I forget it's 2026 now.
It's our 20th anniversary in 24.
One bit of advice I'd give you, Harry, is never let anyone put you in a nursing home.
I told my kids, put me up under a bridge before they did that.
I never thought of it that way, but I had no thoughts of ever going into a nursing home.
Well, a lot of people have their relatives do it, and a lot of people are conned into thinking it's a good idea.
But I can tell you, it's basically a high-priced jail.
I don't want to go there.
This is going to give me a good, actually, Keith, you triggered something.
And just minutes remaining, sharkhunters.com, sign up, become a member as I am.
Get some of the great books, the great signed photos from these warriors.
But Harry, you've got about two or three minutes remaining.
If Harry goes, I think he's going to go on a tour touring one of these historical sites of World War II.
We've got three minutes left.
When people go on these patrols of Germany with shark hunters over all these years, all these trips, give me the top 10 places you visited in person, in the real.
You get your hands on these places.
Where are you at?
Oh, boy.
North Germany, of course, we go to see the only type 7C submarine left in the world out of 800 they built, and that was the boat that was commanded by my friend Hans Georges.
We go there on a north tour, but so much has changed in Germany.
So many great places are now shut down or destroyed, whatever.
But when it was all rocking and rolling, just rattle them off.
When it was all rocking and rolling, you could have access to a lot of these places that may not exist.
Yeah, the Kaiser's cavalry place, which turned into the headquarters for the 5th Panzer Division.
And down in South Germany, tunnels and bunkers would go into bunkers and tunnels that people hadn't seen for 50 years.
We also go to South America, to Argentina.
The third Reich did not die on the 8th of May, 1945.
It merely moved.
And, you know, I'm the one who discovered Hitler did not commit suicide in the bunker, but he lived his life out in Argentina.
I've been to the home where he lived for 10 years until Perron, his protector, got kicked out.
We're going down to Argentina again in November.
And anybody wants to go with us, let me know.
Send me an email, sharkhunters at sharkhunters.com, and I'll send you the information on the tours.
Anybody can go if you want to.
What about some places of Hitler significance in Germany itself?
I mean, people can still go up to some of the big stadium at Nuremberg, where they held all the rallies.
Anybody can go there, but we used to be able to go inside because one of our members was the mayor's assistant.
He had the keys.
But unfortunately, the place is starting to come apart, and they've had to prop it up with big wooden beams from inside.
So they're not letting anybody in there because one of these.
You've said that there was even times you would go into some of these places and you would still see swastikas on the way.
They never did remove those, even after all these decades.
Right, right, right.
That's true.
And down in South America, a lot of places where you see swastikas, a lot of little towns where I don't speak Spanish at all, but I get along fine with my German in some of those little towns down there.
Third Reich still lives down in South America.
It's an interesting law center going to go after me for that.
You know, if they're not going after you, I'd be suspect of you.
But I met this guy in New Orleans in 2004.
Here we are in 2026 and many more years to come.
Sharkhunters.com.
He's got all the stories.
They've been put into countless.
How many books do you have for sale right now?
72.
72.
And so many of the books.
I'm going to rely more on the building ways that'll be done this month.
So many of these books are just the testimonies and the remembrances of the warriors themselves that Harry collected and compiled and published.
These are their stories.
These are their words.
They wrote it and he put it in book form.
Do you have quite a following in Germany, Harry?
Yeah, quite a bit, but quietly, though, because you get into trouble over there.
Ain't that the sad truth?
Well, Harry, Happy New Year to you.
Everybody who donated at Christmastime, who wanted one of those books, they're going to get it.
They're going to go out next week.
We wanted to remind you of that, give you that update here tonight.
And just use it as another excuse to have Harry Otter tell us some stories.
You can read so many more stories through his books at sharkhunters.com.
Check them out, become a member.
We'll go into South Africa next in our third hour, Rich and Denise Hamlin and Simon Roche standing by there.